mortonjag 2005-08-23 16:14:07
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Aug 23 2005, 01:53 PM)
We could maybe manage without him for the Dumbarton game, but we'll need him two weeks on Saturday for the Gretna game
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Against Gretna it probably wouldn't do any harm to be even tighter at the back, and I think Dean Keenan is an excellent stand-in.

Most of our productive moves now are coming from long balls, and frees, rather than through the middle, where alex is best.
mortonjag 2005-08-24 11:32:26
QUOTE(mrsmoo @ Aug 24 2005, 10:11 AM)
Following last night's match, Rowan Alexander has been reported by referee

for "foul and abusive language" and now faces disciplinary action.
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No harm to the good folk of Gretna, but in my opinion they're just being led up the garden path by Mileson and his fanciful ideas. What a joke-a chance to progress in the cup against premier league opposition, and they can't even muster 1000 fans-and Mileson says they're heading for Europe!

Rowan was a great striker for us, but we don't even know if he's a good manager, as he's got a wealth of talent to choose from, thanks to Mileson's money.
mortonjag 2005-08-24 12:17:18
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 24 2005, 12:20 AM)
Peter Weatherson will be right up there.
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And what about young Harding-he's a real class act in the making-no messing-just goes about his business-sure he's young and a bit raw at times, but he always seems to find that extra couple of seconds on the ball even under pressure, and some of his upfield passes have the precision of a golf pro.
mortonjag 2005-08-25 11:27:45
QUOTE(Muz @ Aug 22 2005, 10:36 AM)
Yes, but the ones that were there on Saturday WERE arseholes, and it nearly did lead to violence, as has been discussed.

No-ones ever said that the Morton Support were angels so dont really see what the argument is there?
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I suppose those guys are entitled to wear what they like provided it doesn't cause any trouble, but they seem to me to be making a statement that Morton are second best, and that they're only at Cappielow because they can't afford to be elsewhere. Guess we just have to take their money and bite our tongues.
mortonjag 2005-08-26 10:40:54
QUOTE(div @ Aug 25 2005, 10:03 PM)
Gretna currently have the 6th or 7th highest wage bill of the 42 clubs that make up our four divisions in Scotland.

Whether they have 400 fans or not makes little difference, they will end up in the SPL if they continue to spend money as they have been doing.

ps: See Livingston for the perfect example of what money will do for you  dry.gif
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There's no comparison in terms of geography. Unless Gretna were to merge with Carlisle, they will always be a village team. Sure it's fairytale stuff at the moment, but I can't believe Mileson's in this as a Godmother-rather a pantomime villain!
mortonjag 2005-08-26 11:12:38
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Aug 26 2005, 09:48 AM)
I was always under the impression, Mileson was going to take Gretna up as far as he could in the SFL (possibly next year) and then attempt to merge them with Carlise, selling the idea to both sets of fans that they could then challenge for major trophies, with the combined support etc.  All the time using the theory that neither team can achieve anything major on their own.
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I understand, but if he's got that much money, why not splash it out on Carlisle, and buy instant success-with at least some sort of fan base, instead of this Dunoon Juniors and Greenock Morton United joke!
mortonjag 2005-08-26 12:25:19
QUOTE(gmfc_rossco_1874 @ Aug 26 2005, 11:10 AM)
My Dad is and always will be a hun.
Although took me to Morton games when i was younger and only few Rangers games.
He didn't like the trouble being an old firm fan caused, so i was taken to cappielow and loved it since.

ps. My dad still goes to Cappielow rather than Ibrox because it's closer and believes everyone in Greenock should go  tongue.gif
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My Dad always supported the 'ton, and I was born in Greenock and always have too. Sadly, one of my sons is a "Hun", my daughter goes to Parkhead, and my other boy isn't interested. So much for parental influence!!
mortonjag 2005-08-26 12:55:30
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Aug 25 2005, 06:41 PM)
I think what could be behind Chris's lack of form is he's trying to be more than himself.  He seems to be carrying that price tag around like a ball and chain and trying to show he's worth it. 

I asked Jim McInally about Chris after he scored against Dumbarton at New Year.  Jim said he didn't mind Chris keeping the ball and dribbling inside the box, but said he would coach him to play differently when outside the box, i.e. to pass the ball. 

I'me not sure if you pay for a very unorthodox player who's the league's top scorer, that you should try to change him.  I'de like to see Chris just being himself, nothing more, nothing less, and see how he gets on.
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I agree-Chris's statistics with Brechin are indisputable and we're still in the same division this year. He's trying too hard, and with the new style of attack at Cappielow, he just hasn't found his feet yet. He needs other players to move off him and give him space in the middle if he's going to be effective (and a couple of goals to boost his confidence).
mortonjag 2005-08-26 13:15:16
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Aug 26 2005, 12:01 PM)
I'd have thought that Chris' movement is in question, surely not that of those around him ie McLaren & Lilley
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Sure, I'm not criticising the boys in form-just saying that if Chris is going to do a 'Brechin" for us, he needs space.
mortonjag 2005-08-26 18:56:40
QUOTE(Davie @ Aug 26 2005, 05:38 PM)
Sons 0-2 Pride of Renfrewshire
Loons 0-1 Peterheid
Gr£tna 2-1 Ayr
Thistle 2-2 Raith
Stirling 0-1 Alloa
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Stirling 2 Alloa 2
mortonjag 2005-08-26 19:56:20
QUOTE(Doc @ Aug 26 2005, 06:34 PM)
No point even discussing this...the fact is that the lower divisions are ignored when it comes to selecting the U21 national team. With only the odd exception, that therefore proves my rule  tongue.gif , the powers that be would rather select a 19 year old who is playing reserve team games for a "big" club than a 19 year old who is playing week-in week-out in the lower leagues.

Who was the last Morton player to get U21 caps anyway? Davie Wylie?
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Is it that they'd rather pick big club reserves, or that they don't bother watching us 'scum'?

Remember other names-McGraw springs to mind straight away-ok not at under 21 but the principles the same.
mortonjag 2005-08-26 20:03:41
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 26 2005, 05:04 PM)
Newton yo need to spend more time riding the wife mate wink.gif
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mortonjag 2005-08-27 07:37:38 I go to all the away matches, and although we always seem to turn it on for the 'biggies' e.g. Stranraer last season, or new Bayview before that, we seem to be strangely quiet at some of those games now.

The players really do respond when we get behind them, so let them know we ARE, and by the way, don't forget Scotty did get that vital goal, so go easy on him!!!
mortonjag 2005-08-27 08:33:26
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Aug 26 2005, 07:50 PM)
Aye but who was McGraw up against?  Jim Baxter, Denis Law, Iain St John, et al.
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At his best (before his knees packed in) McGraw was more versatile than St. John, more incisive, though less creative, than Law, and Slim Jim was never a striker-yet McGraw was never even picked for the Scottish league side-nepotism rules ok
mortonjag 2005-08-29 10:04:14
QUOTE(forza ton @ Aug 29 2005, 08:34 AM)
not convinced about mclaughlin at all. another young midget in the centre

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I don't think we need another striker. At the moment we're making plenty of chances in the box mainly from long balls, frees, and runs up the right. There's very little going through the middle or up the left, except when McAllister acts as a winger. Scott Mclaughlin is still just a kid but was improving immensely at the end of last season. He may be small but he's strong and thrustful through the middle, and would be a good signing for us, and, oh for a traditonal number 11
mortonjag 2005-08-29 10:26:47 I honestly think that if we'd had a couple of players with Andy's passion and drive during the past two seasons, we wouldn't even remember where Gretna is!

I get fed up with parsimonious plonkers going on about the rights and wrongs of the game-we all know he was silly-but shut up and enjoy the man for what he is.
mortonjag 2005-08-29 11:06:46 How can you compare Walker to Finlayson-they're chalk and cheese-Paul ran about the pitch like a blue arsed fly, and 90% of the time flattered to deceive.

Finlayson is a fit 'grafter' who is very effective in what he was bought for-nobody that I have spoken to sees him as a right winger.
mortonjag 2005-08-29 11:18:25
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Aug 28 2005, 09:26 PM)
I'm wanting to go but don't finish college till 4:30 and since Tuesday will only be my 2nd day, I don't wanna take time off. Gutted cos I've been to every competitive match this season.
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Iain I live quite near the college and will be driving up. Could maybe give you a lift if you are interested
mortonjag 2005-08-29 12:30:02
QUOTE(Mick @ Aug 29 2005, 11:17 AM)
Totally, agree Standman. 

I am flabergasted that some people are backing Andy McLaren in this position when he's totally screwed the team for the Gretna match with his petulance.  Regardless of how many times he's been sent-off /booked in his career, the fact is his sending off was completely unncessary.  I agree that is it fair enough showing passion and commitment; they are admirable traits, but please channel them into something constructive - ie ripping into opponents.  Also, he needs to remember that the more he does it, the more of a target he'll become for the refs in this league.  McLaren should be getting a kicking from McInally and Clark for Saturday, not praised!  He's let himself, the team and (some of) the supporters down very badly.

Should we lose to Gretna in two weeks, McLaren should consider himself largely responsible.
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Mick, I entirely agree with your logic, but what I'm trying to get over is that with a player like Andy, or (another) Ritchie, or Gazza, or Cantona, and other 'prima donnas', you get a psychological package you really can't change, and I'm afraid you'll just have to 'like it or lump it'.
mortonjag 2005-08-29 12:46:20
QUOTE(forza ton @ Aug 29 2005, 08:34 AM)
not convinced about mclaughlin at all. another young midget in the centre

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Young - yes-midget - no, sure he's baby faced and just looks like a kid , but I think this lad is a potential midfield dynamo, and Chris Millar could move out right where HE plays best.
mortonjag 2005-08-29 16:22:37
QUOTE(g_m_f_c_1874_g_m_f_c @ Aug 29 2005, 02:45 PM)
and Kev Finlayson will go where.............................?

There is no way you could leave Kevin out of the team
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Absolutely-Kevin is worth his weight in gold, but at the moment Chris, who's a bit lightweight, is getting bogged down in the middle. I'm not picking a team here, merely commenting on abilities. Remember Alex Walker has this dodgy problem, which hopefully won't, but may hound him, and he and McLaughlin have very similar styles.
mortonjag 2005-08-29 16:34:15 It made sense to bring on a defender, sure, but this was a game where the Sons' defence was dealing well with our rather predictable new style of play, and one thing the big boy is not, is predictable. Bad man-management from Jim in my opinion.
mortonjag 2005-08-29 18:48:49
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Aug 29 2005, 05:45 PM)
Do you know the Morton result on the day (or nearest to the day) that you were born?
If not I would be happy to check it for you. smile.gif

It would also be nice if anyone who was at any games mentioned in this thread could add any memories that they have of them.

If you don't wish to post your date of birth on this thread, PM me and I'll post the game without mentioning who requested it.

Guess I'll start.

5th February 1972 (not my b'day)
Morton 1-0 Cowdenbeath (Scottish Cup Round 3)

All I know is that we were in Division 1 and Cowden in Division 2 (there were only 2 leagues). We were drawn away to Aberdeen for the next round.

Anyone else?

AT
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Right-here's a challenge for you straight away-from an oldie, and I don't know if the leagues were properly set up after the war but my DOB was 2/3/46
mortonjag 2005-08-29 18:51:29
QUOTE(gmfc_rossco_1874 @ Aug 29 2005, 04:47 PM)
Dealing well? as in 2 cleared shots of the line and a few good saves ?
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mortonjag 2005-08-30 07:05:32
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Aug 29 2005, 05:52 PM)
League campaign finished on 16/2/46.

Morton 1-2 Queen's Park

AT
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Ta for that-was Cowboy the manager?!
mortonjag 2005-08-30 10:05:54 I didn't recognise the gentleman, but immediately was impressed by his 'sour coupon' and officious manner-and it just went downhill after that. I thought he was perhaps just inexperienced, but my brother says he's been around for ages-obviously only getting the 'minnows' to piss off.
mortonjag 2005-08-30 11:00:04 I agree, we've got some momentum now, so minimal changes. The big boy deserves his chance with Andy out, and we want as stuffy a defence as possible-Harding, Greacen, and McGregor (if fully fit), has appealed to me for a while.
mortonjag 2005-08-30 11:09:53
QUOTE(1874morton @ Aug 30 2005, 07:40 AM)
For the cup game against partick it was as follows..

"A Quick reminder to both Brechin and Partick fans that tomorrow's CIS Cup 1st Round match at Glebe Park kicks off at 7:30. Admission prices are £12 for adults and £6 for concession"

From Brechin City web site.....
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Aye, but this is the Bells Cup, and Greenock is further away- I think it should be ten quid maximum, but I doubt it.
mortonjag 2005-08-30 11:39:30
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Aug 30 2005, 10:14 AM)
My team would line up like this.....

....................McGurn...........................

Adam......Harding........Greacen.....McGregor

Finlayson...Miller........Weatherson...McAllister

.........Walker...............Lilley....................
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M4RKO you've got me thinking. I was saying at the beginning of the season that Spoonsy was, is, and always will be a striker. Yep I'd go along with you, with Temps on the bench, and Walker on for John Adam if he's fit.
mortonjag 2005-08-30 15:43:10
QUOTE(edd @ Aug 30 2005, 01:41 PM)
if walker's fit then surely he would go into midfield and weatherson would be back at right back in adam's place (not that that would be my choice, but it's definitely what mcinally would do)? i'm not too happy about mcgregor playing at left back, but that is certainly a formation that i could see mcinally picking.

i wouldn't mind seeing us playing the same 3-4-1-2 formation we've been doing of late with adam in for keenan (if alex walker isn't fit enough) and templeman in for mclaren. it won't be the same as with mclaren in the hole but it could still work: templeman won't drift out wide like mclaren does so the wingers will have to get up there and cross the ball themselves, and when templeman's on as a striker he's always got 3 players closing him down - but if he's playing in the hole then he should have more time on the ball as the defenders will have to mark the 2 strikers ahead of him ...

i'm not an expert but that's my thoughts on the subject.
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I watched Templeman for Brechin against the Midden a couple of seasons ago after he first refused Douglas Rae's offer. I expected a big central striker and was surprised how often he drifted to either wing and sent in good crosses to the others. To me Chris is just a conundrum-don't know how he can best be used in our setup.
mortonjag 2005-08-31 09:24:25 All that's in this for us is pride and a WEE bit money-best to get one of the first division clubs in the final-and we can definitely win this one.
mortonjag 2005-08-31 14:36:18 That's a relief-less wages, and rid of a guy who seemed in favour for ages, yet I can't remember him playing a really good game-slow in all aspects, poor distribution, and constantly outjumped by smaller opponents.
mortonjag 2005-08-31 14:42:26 No it means Chris can get out of the 'boiler house' where he's been lost, and start being creative again down the right. He and Kevin linked quite well in a couple of earlier games-and before everybody starts shouting-Andy's versatile enough to play anywhere and be effective. People keep going on about the squad being 'thin' and there's no harm in Walker and Mclaughlin competing for a place.
mortonjag 2005-08-31 14:47:14 Kevin's assets seem to be his tenacity and speed-he's a great squad player but without support he runs out of ideas down the right. I think that now we have strengthened the midfield with McLaughlin, Chris Millar and Kev will start to produce the goods on the right.
mortonjag 2005-08-31 15:19:22
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 31 2005, 07:33 AM)
We would probably take at leat 7,000.  If a team gets to the final, it generates a lot of excitement and all the supporters come out of the woodwork.  I was at the 92 final and it was a great day out although we lost.  I was also at a final in about 1996 or 1997 when QoS played Falkirk (the year QoS beat us in the semi at Cappielow).  Queens had a much larger than normal support at that and at their appearance against brechin a few years ago.  Do not underestimate how much interest this cup generates when you reach the final.
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I'd love to believe that Alibi, but it is only the Bells cup, and the media won't give it that much hype, so you won't get the huge influx of Inverclyde 'old firm' diehards who plague such matches as the play-off against Dundee United a few couple of seasons back, and stop regular supporters getting a decent view!!!
mortonjag 2005-08-31 16:07:17
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 31 2005, 03:00 PM)
It's a shame that the situation couldn't be rectified, because he was a fairly  solid player and we're not exactly overloaded with defenders. However, his chapter's closed, and McGregor's back from injury, so we're not entirely without cover.
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Nacho-he looked solid and had physique but in terms of productivity he was useless in my opinion. My brother thought he was ok, so I started deliberately watching him throughout a couple of games-his close tackling was not bad, but he was slow, couldn't outjump smaller players unless he took them with him, and his distribution was dire. We're well rid of him.
mortonjag 2005-08-31 16:29:47
QUOTE(GazTon @ Aug 31 2005, 03:01 PM)
Some people are getting far too carried away with this.  rolleyes.gif We don't even know who we face in the next round yet.
I agree. We have the potential to beat most, if not all the SFL team, but we are unlikely to do so IMO.
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Where's your optimism-we're only starting to motor, and I'm highly impressed by the way we 'neutralise' other teams. We can beat any first division outfit, so lets go for it!
mortonjag 2005-08-31 16:36:32 John's only twenty and will probably mature a lot over the next couple of seasons, but I see him more as an attack minded player than the 'muckers' we'll need to sicken Mileson's playthings
mortonjag 2005-08-31 17:46:27
QUOTE(GazTon @ Aug 31 2005, 03:45 PM)
I'm always optimistic, but realistic too, unlike many people at times on this and Eddie's board. The team does look good just now, and as I said we probably could beat any SFL team with the quality of the side at the moment.

I'm just not letting myself dream about a cup final which we probably won't be in. We always seem to have high expectations (naturally) when we get a bit of a run in a cup and are usually let down. This isn't pessimisim, I'm just going by Morton's recent cup records.
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Is optimism ever realism, or am I just being Devil's advocate!!
Anyway I'm going to toddle up to Stirling tonight to watch Craig Coyle's lot do to them what we'll do to the first division. Could be quite a good match if it's not rained off.
mortonjag 2005-09-01 09:30:47
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 1 2005, 08:24 AM)
Doesn't go with the yellow shorts.  Even I, who am entirely heterosexual, can see that the top and shorts clash.  It just doesn't look right, seems as if they took along the wrong shorts to go with the tops.  Heaven help us if Trinny and Susannah get to vet candidates for the first division.
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The tartan tops are naff, and the yellow pants make them look even more ridiculous, but maybe Douglas is trying to purvey his confections to people of less straight convictions than yours !!!???
mortonjag 2005-09-01 09:33:26
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 31 2005, 08:57 PM)
Dundee
Hamilton
Morton
Raith
Stenhousemuir
Stirling
St Mirren
St Johnstone

Who do you want?

I'd like Stenny at Cappielow to make a semi final place a bit more assured.

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I watched Stirling v Berwick last night-it was a totally crap game, and Berwick were far better in the first half with a lucky winner from the Binos. They are now the minnows-not Stenny who are going great guns.
mortonjag 2005-09-01 09:39:19 I think versatility is the keyword. Not only did he fulfil all of those roles last season, but more and more he was breaking through the middle and wanting a poke at goal, and I wouldn't be surprised if he ends the season with five or six goals to his credit.
mortonjag 2005-09-01 09:48:46 Jim's whole personna seems to smack of consolidation and I'd be gobsmacked if he left Cappielow right now.
mortonjag 2005-09-01 10:37:56
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Sep 1 2005, 09:18 AM)
I keep thinking Derek Lilley looks like a lumberjack in his tartan shirt unsure.gif
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Is this relevant to the previous correspondence(-ref- 'I'm a lumberjack and I'm O.K.')?
If so his Gretna cuddle with Del may have raised some eyebrows!
mortonjag 2005-09-01 10:48:07
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Sep 1 2005, 09:33 AM)
I don't care.

Anyone as long as its at Scappa.

In fact bring on Dundee or St. Johnstone.

We're going to have to beat them to get to the final - we might as well start now!

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Yep-lets get the money asap and if we're still in so much the better
mortonjag 2005-09-01 11:16:38 Won't be if we find out
mortonjag 2005-09-01 14:31:25 Greacen-you started this-anybody want a fender tele mex for 250 quid?
mortonjag 2005-09-01 15:02:50
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Sep 1 2005, 02:56 PM)
i might know somebody who would be interested MJ, i will ask them for you.  Could you post some details (colour,maple/rosewood fretboard,condition,case etc)?
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It's in good nick-turquoise finish/maple-no case. I bought it 2nd hand from reputable dealer two years ago for 300 quid and still have receipts.
I know this isn't e-bay but I'm also wanting rid of a Marshall amp, and Yamaha keyboards!!!
mortonjag 2005-09-01 15:15:09 After watching Stirling 'beat' Berwick last night, I can assure all 'Ton fans that we must be favourites for the next round.

They were totally uninspired and uninspiring, and my only entertainment came from the Berwick fans (must have been over 100) who were good sports and a 'hoot' at times. Craig Coyle was injured so didn't see him play.
mortonjag 2005-09-01 15:22:08
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Sep 1 2005, 03:10 PM)
thanks mj, i will pass on that info and get back to you if my mate is interested.

if i manage to get shot of one or both of my guitars i might be interested in the marshall.  is it a combo? what size/model/price?
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Just the 'baby' Marshall-MG15DFX-again paid 100 quid new and it's hardly been used-Yamaha is PSR 170 and mint. I had this notion a couple of years ago to start a wee band, but I've ended up just getting better at entertaining myself on my accoustic!
mortonjag 2005-09-01 15:37:39
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Sep 1 2005, 03:25 PM)
There was about 60, according to the Stirling fans.

Coyle was on the bench, but McGroarty and Murie both played.
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Correct-Murie was one of their best players and seems to be very popular down there.
mortonjag 2005-09-01 15:44:20 Am I dreaming or did I see that guy McCluskey, (remember him), coming out of the bank with a big smile on his face?
mortonjag 2005-09-01 16:17:01 There's no doubt Cappie is 'awful nice' to the kids, but when he ambles on at half time, (especially after a hectic 45 minutes) to the theme from 'Top Cat', you'd think he was on valium or something. He certainly does nothing for me-or should I rephrase that?!!
mortonjag 2005-09-02 09:06:49
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 31 2005, 03:32 PM)
The papers take a great interest in the final of this competition, even if tv/radio don't.  We're only at the Q-final stage, but if we make it through to the final, our first in 13 years, we'll take a few thousand, wherever it's held.
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Yep-the 'Tilly', Paisley Express, Dundee Courier etc.
Get real man, I couldn't even find a mensh in today's Herald, and eventually found it at the bottom of a wee fixture list on the third last page-below the eircom league!! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-09-02 09:13:12
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 31 2005, 09:10 PM)
What a brilliant idea. Wonder why other clubs haven't thought of this? Maybe try and persuade my wife to have more children now.
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Like the euphemism-or will it be when you're at the match?!!!
mortonjag 2005-09-02 12:00:38
QUOTE(Argyllton @ Sep 1 2005, 06:01 PM)
Looking at your picture, I take it you are a felinist! I actually think Cappy is attractive in a strange sort of way!  wink.gif Anyway in the words o' Elvis "You aint nothin' but a hun dog!"
                          Geez ma jacket!
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Good repartee-like the Hun Dog bit-sorry to disappoint you though, I'm neither a felinist nor a closet Broxyphile-I just thought it was the most suitable place for the shirt. I agree that Cappie can be a little winsome at times, but he's so, so lethargic! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2005-09-02 12:08:01 is 'glory hunters' a euphemism for sad b**t**ds who spend a fortune trekking to watch the old firm every week, and only come here when they've nothing 'better' to do?
mortonjag 2005-09-02 12:27:03
QUOTE(Inver_Ton @ Sep 2 2005, 12:23 PM)
Glad to hear it!

Doubt he would even have considered leaving us. He's beginning to build his own team at a club that has a fantastic set-up and a big support.

Is he up for manager of the month??? He's got to be.....
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Might depend on how Mileson gets on with Bells-OOPS!
mortonjag 2005-09-02 13:41:28
QUOTE(Ton_Cat @ Sep 2 2005, 01:13 PM)
dr how can you justify that. the lad has never been gave a fair crack at the whip.

the guy is only twenty. i believe the right coaching and played in the correct games he could become a very good player for us. he is still at his learning curve, same with keenan,jason walker and all the younger lads
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Ton cat, I agree with you, except that Jason always seems to be rated as a youngster, yet according to the official web site he's 25.

I think young Adam's been a wee bit slow to mature, he scored a cracking goal, against QP a couple of seasons ago, but unlike Chris Millar, hasn't had a run in the first team to boost his confidence-time'll tell.
mortonjag 2005-09-02 13:51:23
QUOTE(parent @ Sep 2 2005, 01:31 PM)
Sorry I don't have the answer to that question PMC, but Joe actually was only there for one training night this season before he resigned and I know that one of the other coaches did not feel right in signing  players as he felt it was not the correct thing to do as he did not know if he himself was being allowed to stay on. He told me he was more worried about the boys he would not have signed.

I do know that none of the 14's have been signed and that is strange to me. The club have had lots of time to sign the players now. That is why parents are looking elsewhere for their kids. There was a expectation that players would have been signed last night but nothing happenned.
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What you've been saying/suggesting really concerns me, and if all of it is true, it's time the club stopped pulling the wool over our eyes.

Anyway, now that Joe has gone, there's ample time for a 'new broom'.

Have you tried to make your concerns known to the chairman-doubt if he reads this.
mortonjag 2005-09-02 14:27:44
QUOTE(parent @ Sep 2 2005, 02:20 PM)
Sorry Bobby, Can't agree with your comments but we all have an opinion. Joe was at the sessions I was at but I did not attend them all ( under 13's ).  Regarding Martin and Jim, they were not there last night .

Do not see how you can say Joe nearly destroyed the youth set up. What was better in the previous seasons ?  The 17's also won the league last year, was that not progress ?

Regardless Joe is gone and it's the future that matters.

Unless there is a lot of two faced parents then I am not the only one concerned.

Is your boy with the 14's or 17's ?
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As I suggested earlier, why go to the monkey-speak to the organ grinder. I can't believe that Douglas Rae would tolerate sloppy organisation. I have no personal knowledge of what's going on but if this is a general perception, and not just a personal gripe, get a few parents together and sign aletter jointly.
mortonjag 2005-09-04 12:58:36
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Sep 2 2005, 03:30 PM)
My worry with Adam is that he looks slow and not particularly brave. When you're slow you're slow... no matter what age you are. We'll see how things work out, I don't think he'll make it as a player.  Felt the same about Stephen Whalen years ago when some were raving about him, he was so slow he obviously would never be able to play at a good level.
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Jim Baxter wasn't exactly a greyhound!
mortonjag 2005-09-06 12:32:56 If Ramsay's got all that money to spend on a football club-and remember he IS a hard headed businessman masquerading as a chef- do you really think he would go for us!!!

Anyway hats off to Douglas Rae-we're very lucky to have him-and thanks to the two s***ty rags for the publicity.
mortonjag 2005-09-07 09:19:20 My biggest disappointment was that while he relied on the history books for the Cowan, and Orr type stuff, (which, even for an oldie like me was educational), he jumped forward to his own experiences (backed up with data) for the later greats.

His coverage of the Hal Stewart years, and particularly of the Danes, was sadly lacking. I've been watching the 'Ton now for over 45 years, and in my opinion we've never had such fun and excitement as in the days of the Cappielow Bugler-and just for the youngsters' interest-in those days we shouted and yelled FOR OUR TEAM, and only had a passing interest in things Paisley!
mortonjag 2005-09-07 09:31:42 I agree that we would always have difficulty in competing with the larger city teams for a fanbase-but don't kid yourselves-in Inverclyde, with Cowal, and parts of Ayrshire and Renfrewshire at close hand, we potentially have a far bigger support than Kilmarnock, Livvi, Caley, Falkirk, etc., etc.,-I know things have changed but I remember well that we drew a crowd of over 12,000 against Clyde in the old second division, and about the same time over 20.000 for an evening cup tie against Motherwell. It's this fanbase thing that makes the whole Gretna 'dream' a farce, IMO, but I digress!
mortonjag 2005-09-07 09:44:04
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 7 2005, 09:38 AM)
I was referring to Greenock itself in that remark.  The population of Inverclyde as whole is around 85,000.  When I started supporting Morton 45/50 years ago Inverclyde did not exist but I would guess that the comparable population then was about 130,000.  In the last 30 years we have lost 15,000 jobs in shipbuilding and related trades and our electronics industry is now also a fraction of what it was.  Our local authority and central government have been hopeless in their efforts to reverse these job losses but thats not for this forum.

I agree with most posters that it depends on how well a team is doing with regard to its crowds but if you start out with the number each team would take to say the Scottish cup final then the order I have is about right.  In fact we maybe slip a place because I forgot to include Thistle.

If we got to the SPL, its probably true that we could at least emulate the crowds of Motherwell, Killie and the like but even at 5-6000 its still not what I would describe as a 'sleeping giant'.

Another interesting point is why is it that English towns seem to produce bigger supports for their teams than Scottish towns.  Is it the old firm factor?  The population of greater Carlisle is around 130,000 but their team in the lower leagues in England gets  8-10,000 regularly.  Paisley is a similar size but the Midden only get around 3000.  Falkirk is the same but can't get such crowds.
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We are fortunate in being slightly 'out on a limb' in terms of the central industrial belt (a wee bit like Carlisle if you like), whereas Falkirk, Paisley, and others are more conurbated. I believe that if we were doing really well, we could regularly pull crowds in excess of seven or eight thousand.
mortonjag 2005-09-07 11:15:49
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Sep 7 2005, 11:07 AM)
Jonaton,

You obviously have discoverd a few flaws in the book, and have good knowledge of the more recent history of Morton.  However I think the point people are making, and the one I'd make, is that you're critisising a guy who's not an author, he's a fireman who's devoted a lot of his time to research and produce and publish his first book about the team he loves. 

You seem to be going to great lengths to find the same statement repeated etc.  I would say within reason that any new book on Morton is welcome in Inverclyde, if it has to be done by an established professional author/sportswriter then it might never happen.  Therefore it's up to a brave, enterprising Morton supporter to do the work. 

I think that in the circumstances Graeme achieved what he set out to do very successfully.  I think it took him two years and if he'd set out to prove everything he wrote was spot it it may have taken another year.  I would also be a bit worried about discouraging him from writing a second book, as many of us are looking forward to it. 

There are plenty of stories about players that I haven't read or heard before.  I didn't look for perfection in the book, and enjoyed it immensely. 

Perhaps you should consider writing a Morton book yourself.
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I agree in general with you, but to entitle the book as he did, and miss out such a chunk of the Hal Stewart years does disservice to so many players who were arguably greater than some of his choices. Had he omitted the Cowan years altogether and simply focussed on the later years I wouldn't have had a problem, and I really did enjoy the read.
mortonjag 2005-09-07 16:03:00 Dream Oak Tree, you're spot on. People down at the tail o' the bank don't seem to realise the geographical pull we have when we're doing well. Greenock, unlike so many other Scottish footballing towns, isn't part of a big conurbation. Talking about the actual population of towns is actually a bit irrelevant-it's the potential fan base that counts, and we HAVE got it.
mortonjag 2005-09-08 09:06:00
QUOTE(scruff @ Sep 7 2005, 10:49 PM)
Any information about roadworks/disruption for driving to Greenock on Saturday from Glasgow M8/A8?

cheers

scruff
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Depends exactly what your journey entails, but I rarely have any problem going from Govan on-ramp down M8 to Cappielow. I leave Shawlands at 2.15 and usually get parked by 2.50.
mortonjag 2005-09-08 09:48:21
QUOTE(gmfc_rossco_1874 @ Sep 8 2005, 07:44 AM)
Or...The rich guy and the Ton man both working together  tongue.gif  laugh.gif
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Absolutely no chance-two workaholic autocrats in symphony-aye right! sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-09-08 09:55:48 Alloa (on form) 2 Forfar (struggling) 0

Ayr (can't keep it up for ever) 1 Partick (surely must improve) 1

Morton (the team from Greenock) 15 Gretna (nufsed) 0 (Templeman 14/McGurn 1)

Peterhead 1 Dumbarton 1 (and probably as boring as Big Brother)

Raith (improving) 3 Stirling (clueless) 1
mortonjag 2005-09-08 10:24:07 It seems kind of obvious that even if Walker is rated 'fit', it's a tough match for him to be tested in-young McLaughlin is a more than able alternative, and his work rate is better than John Adam's.

Chris Millar will hopefully now be able to move 'right of centre' and do some linking up with Spoonsy and Finlayson, and Jim McA also will be allowed more time on the left.

If Temps and Vialli can get out of each other's road in the box, I honestly believe we can knock in two or three against Gretna- and it's the only way to deal with them-no point in trying to contain them and hope for goals on the break
mortonjag 2005-09-08 12:10:22 They'll be man marking us as best they can. I fancy a header from an inrushing defender will catch them out. Long time since big Stu got one and that would fairly boost his confidence.
mortonjag 2005-09-16 22:45:39 It will probably depend a lot on the weather and prior press coverage and only the latter is predictable- as this is (as stated earlier), a 'diddy cup', but at least we'll make some money out of it. Might even get a pic of one of our many goals in the Daily Retard on the Thursday!
mortonjag 2005-09-16 22:50:41
QUOTE(se56an @ Sep 16 2005, 08:22 AM)
Show him this picture!!
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDRotting Alexander after his final cartwheel-or is that something to do with hamsters?!
mortonjag 2005-09-16 23:02:15
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Sep 16 2005, 10:35 PM)
That would be my prefered line-up.
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Sounds good to me-Finlayson's a great squad player and asset on the bench but he's hardly been productive. The big boy, and Andy can both drift to the right when required.
mortonjag 2005-09-17 00:07:09
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 17 2005, 12:01 AM)
Stuart McCluskey signs for Dundee
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So they sack Jim Duffy and sign McCluskey-sounds like a good swap-ha ha!
mortonjag 2005-09-17 00:10:32
QUOTE(Davie @ Sep 16 2005, 05:19 PM)
I can see tomorrow being a very tough and frustrating game.

We will end up scraping a 1-0 win, but Alloa are certainly no pushovers.

Gretna will pump Thistle.
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No chance-it's a coupon buster-just wait and see!!!!!!!!!
mortonjag 2005-09-17 10:06:48
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Sep 17 2005, 01:37 AM)
I still maintain that McCluskey is a good defender - if his off field antics hadn't messed things up here, a defence of Harding - Greacen - McCluskey with Weatherson able to operate in midfield would have been amazing.

Some things just aren't meant to be.
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If he turns his career round, C.C, I'll admit you are right, but I thought he was poor-failed to motivate-and kept better youngsters out of the team-and even big templeman could outjump him rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-09-17 10:11:51 I really rate Finlayson, but this is about a squad of pros., and not just eleven men. Kevin has been massive in work rate and application, but he fails to deliver into the box, and at the moment it's goals we need.
mortonjag 2005-09-17 10:20:56
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Sep 17 2005, 10:13 AM)
It has to be done!  tongue.gif

I'll go for 2593
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What makes you go for >3000-we played well last week but lost to the toy boys and we got through on Wednesday. As Jim McInally said, one of those days we'll really click and somebody (hopefully that whining pain Hendrie) will get a hiding-I'll go for 3210
mortonjag 2005-09-17 10:38:04
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Sep 17 2005, 10:26 AM)
I went for >3000 cos the weather ain't that great and that it ain't as big a game as it was last weekend. Also, Rangers are at home today, so we could lose the fair-weather fans to them.

I hope we do get over 3000 though.
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I'll guarantee three things for today

1/ Partick will pick up three points and Alexander will be sacked tongue.gif

2/ We'll piss on Hendrie's lot and I hope Andy gets three and his own back for last season at their scummy "stadium". tongue.gif

3/ If the crowd isn't more than 3000, I'll pay you into the next game! dry.gif
mortonjag 2005-09-17 10:45:22
QUOTE(adder4 @ Sep 17 2005, 10:23 AM)
This is all crap ,McCluskey was a very good player he saw lots of the ball ,so he made some mistakes, I thought he was made a scapegoat when times where hard with Cormack in charge ,sad loss to the club ,seems that players that are out of favour at our club signed for clubs at a higher level ,eg:- Williams ,McCulskey, they cant be that bad
come on the ton !!!!
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Were you watching the same guy as me-his distribution was dire, he was slow and at times clumsy, and for a relatively tall and strong player his success in the air abysmal. He was sometimes good in the tackle, and could read other attackers quite well, but overall-a waste of space.
mortonjag 2005-09-17 10:55:22
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Sep 17 2005, 10:22 AM)
So Chris Millar has one good game this season against Gretna and he immediately keeps his place and Finlayson is displaced to accomodate Walker or McLaren?

Hmmm...
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Don't knock it 'til you've tried it. Has Finlayson been instrumental in creating goals?

As I said, he's a huge asset, but he's not a right winger, and spends a hell of a lot of time behind the half way line. Millar was struggling because he was 'in the boilerhouse', but with Adam, Walker, and McLaughlin to choose from, it's obvious to me that Chris should be given a chance down the right.
mortonjag 2005-09-17 11:09:18 This is a serious question-Gretna are by no means invincible, and it's a funny old game. Partick started poorly but have come onto a wee bit of form.
I'm taking this one for a 'coupon buster' unsure.gif
mortonjag 2005-09-17 11:13:32
QUOTE(GreatKingRat @ Sep 17 2005, 10:58 AM)
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fink hees mibbee kritysising mye mafs simbles!!!!!
mortonjag 2005-09-17 11:16:55
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Sep 17 2005, 11:08 AM)
Fair enough mate. Where would you use Finlayson? I don't think he deserves to be dropped.
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Don't see it like that Donga-it's about a squad-not just eleven. I bet if Chris set up a couple of goals, and was subbed by Kev to consolidate the lead, they would both realise they had played their parts.
mortonjag 2005-09-17 11:33:05 Andy will be desperate to prove himself today. He got a real rough ride from everybody up at Hendrie's dump last season, (personal stuff and nasty) and he's a guy who needs to be appreciated. We should try to give him as much support as possible-he IS the main motivator, and can swing a game for us.
mortonjag 2005-09-21 12:23:13 Dunfermline isn't a city club, and folks are put off by mid-week matches.

Will be interesting to see how many fans Hibs take to Ayr tonight though, as they'll probably see this as a walk-over, but look at Rangers v Clyde last night!

I hope Ayr do really well, as that often produces an anti-climax for the next match
mortonjag 2005-09-21 12:32:27 In my opinion, the whole Lennon thing is a disgrace.

Those committees are not simply there to dish out punishment-they're supposed to uphold the standards of the game, and here's a seasoned professional, and supposed team captain and role model getting a 'wee pat on the head' and told to be a good boy.

Incidentally, I'm Morton through and through, and hate the Old Firm monopoly-gon yersel Hearts!!!
mortonjag 2005-09-21 19:26:05 Irrespective of what Alexander may have said or not said, I think it's crazy to have an away supporters' club named after an opposition manager.

From a personal viewpoint, and this reflects my age, he wasn't THAT good, when I think of players like McGraw, Ritchie, Harper etc.

Why does the club have to carry a name tag anyway-how about the Cowshed Coachmen or something equally naff?!!!


mortonjag 2005-09-25 11:20:40
QUOTE(AyrAndy @ Sep 25 2005, 10:38 AM)
Best team won on the day  sad.gif , we were never at the races, for us too many players just didn't perform and I thought our tactics were wrong but we can have no complaints Morton looked solid at the back dominated midfield and created the chances. In fact I think your keeper had to make 1 save today, I think that about sums it.

Will Morton win the league, I have to say no, Grtena will get that and it's not sour grapes, I hate Gretna but yesterday our defence had a 38yr old midfielder making his first start and a 21yr old who 5 weeks ago was playing amateur and tbh you didn't make enough of that. Time to stick my oar in about "big Temps" he is awful he doesn't look like a natural finisher and his link up play was poor, and as for Lilley his only real contribution was to make a shocking tackle, but you do have McLaren and today he ran the show but if you are going to win the league then guys like Lilley have to step up a few gears.

As for the ref, he was a shocker, yes it was a free kick your boy gave away but it was never a booking and 8 bookings and a sending off in a game that was never dirty not impressed.

Anyway hopefully it will be another top of the table clash when we play at Cappielow in November..........................and 3 points for the away team again.
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Fair comments, and I know you were under strength yesterday, but don't knock big Chris. I know he sometimes looks really clumsy and 'lost' but if you judged him on productivity over a season and not on impression, you'd be delighted to have him at Somerset-and by the way-Gretna probably won't get much better this season- Alloa tested them yesterday despite the flattering score. Morton on the other hand are bringing through a young and enthusiastic squad, and there's no way Mileson's toys will run away with this league.
mortonjag 2005-09-25 11:32:21
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 25 2005, 06:00 AM)
Fyfe is the worst referee ever bar none! I do not consider this statement by any means an overstatement or exageration.

The last two games I have see him he must have averaged a dead ball situation once every 90 seconds (over about 200 minutes of football that is quite an achievement).

I counted 11 yellow cards today (two of which counted as a red) in what was a very keenly contested game but by no means dirty. 4 of the yellows I'd say were justified. Greacans 1st was pretty blatant, a foul by Lilley as well. Also the 1st booking (no 6 for Ayr I think and another high challenge from an Ayr player in the 2nd half).

There were also many similar incidents to these 4 that went totally unpunished or just a free kick was awarded. A good referee should keep control of a game before he has to issue 11 yellow cards, a ref who has to do this most games (He must have shown about the same no. at Dumbarton) should really be taken a side and given a swift pipe coated in sandpaper up the rear end.

You see the likes of Dallas and Dougal on the tele absolutely rollocking players at the start of games when they see a bad foul or mouthig off etc. Refs should really be encouraged to take charge of a situation verbally and issue cards as a last resort. This will not only cut down the no. of cards but the no. of free kicks as well.

No one wants to see the no. of dead balls we saw today. It is impossible to play good football in a match like that and there will almost certainly be very few goals in the game.
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Couldn't agree more-do they not monitor the performance of those lower grade refs-it's nothing to do with his purported sexuality, or favouring one team or another-the guy is just dire and should be taken off the list.
mortonjag 2005-09-26 08:52:51 I think the tickets were a bigger rip-off, AND a farce. My brother and I arrived at the main stand turnstiles at 2.40, and were told we had to go back to the ticket office, where they were disorganised and flaffing about. We had to shell out fourteen quid each, and eventually got to our seats at 2.55. If we had known in advance we would have stayed on the terracing.
mortonjag 2005-09-26 09:03:42 I'm now in my late fifties, and although born in Greenock, and a lifelong Ton supporter, I went to school in Paisley where most of my mates were either St. Mirren or Rangers fans.

I can state categorically that although there was a friendly rivalry when the two Renfrewshire teams clashed, there was none of the animosity we see now.

This is a new phenomenon-football fans have to have the 'team they hate'.

I was really amused a couple of seasons ago at Hamilton, where they were chanting, 'we are the Airdrie haters'!!

It's all in good fun though, except for some idiots, who are usually drunk anyway.
mortonjag 2005-09-26 09:14:01
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 25 2005, 03:34 PM)
What's purported about it?  Did I accidentally hit the nail on the head?

When I said he was a sh1te ref, I didn't quite mean it like that!
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Alibi, I can enjoy a good laugh about people's sexuality provided it's in context.

If Fyfe is Gay that's fine by me as long as he's a decent ref, but you seem to have more specific knowledge of his preferences than I do, and that's all I meant by correctly using the word 'purported'.!!!!!
mortonjag 2005-09-26 09:22:21 Four weeks ago it was big Temps in the doldrums and Vialli the 'Main Man' up front.

Lilley's experience will tell and he'll get plenty of goals this season, once he starts linking up better with the others-unfortunately he's just going through a lean patch as all strikers do.

As for Finlayson, I've said repeatedly over the past few weeks, he's a tremendous squad player, and for that I rate him highly, but going up the right he's a total waste of time.
mortonjag 2005-09-26 10:22:07
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 24 2005, 08:53 AM)
Pat du-Lally is a geriatric Unionist buffoon  ohmy.gif
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Congratulations Colkitto on your mastery of understatement-Lally's coupon says it all!!!
mortonjag 2005-09-26 11:06:49
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Sep 26 2005, 10:49 AM)
Noticed how some people are getting concerned about how Gwetna are starting to run away with the goal difference situation, IF morton hadn't let in two goals against them and perhaps even won 1-0 goal difference would have been in Mortons favour, its still early in the season,mark my words GWETNA WILL STRUGGLE as the season unfolds,goal difference wont be an issue............you read it here first wink.gif
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Don't you mean 'GWETNA WILL STWUGGLE'?

And Wowan will be cwying and blaming evewybody except himself and Mw. Mileson.

Anyhow I think you have a point- we're hopefully going to be scoring more and conceding less as the boys gel, and I really think we're far more resourceful than Gretna in our build-up play. It's a difficult division, and other managers needing points will probably be playing more and more defensively against them as the season progresses.
mortonjag 2005-09-26 11:15:11 We don't want to develop a chip on our shoulders about this, and start making excuses.

There's every reason for the others to raise their game and wipe the smile off Mileson's highly paid toys, though it must sometimes be difficult down there when you normally play in a football stadium!!!
mortonjag 2005-09-26 11:20:12 Agree-it's not the corners that are the problem-it's sorting out what happens in the box, and so far we've been very poor in that department, especially when we now have several very capable 'headers' in our defence and midfield.
mortonjag 2005-09-26 11:27:07 I'm going to stick my neck out, and say that Kev should start league games on the bench.

He has an admirable work ethic, and is fantastic when we have to 'dig in', but he runs up that right wing like a demented greyhound and then produces SFA.

He was signed as a midfielder, I know, and maybe they're just playing him out of position, but I'd far rather see Chris Millar given the run of the right, and McLaughlin and Walker together in the middle.
mortonjag 2005-09-26 11:43:49 I really rated Greacen when he came to us. He was full of energy, powerful, and scored two or three cracking goals, but latterly he's looked jaded, and has made several gaffes when under pressure.

I just wonder if the Captain's job weighs too heavilly on his shoulders.

Any thoughts?
mortonjag 2005-09-26 12:00:30
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Sep 26 2005, 11:22 AM)
I have being told that I eat disgustingly and slurp drinks.
That when I dont shave I look like a down & out.
I wear the same cloths day in day out including my underpants and socks.
I cross my legs and shake my foot like a right poof.
I fart too loud wenced in the bog
I dont wash my hands after a slash
I dont have a shower often enough
I get sozzled every night nearly
Pull my chest hairs out and leave them on the dinner plates
Pick scabs from inside ma beak
have ma haund inside ma short awe the time
barf and dont say pardon me
Fart then excue my self by saying "gid erse"

woman can be so touchy at times huh.gif  ohmy.gif  unsure.gif  wink.gif  dry.gif  sad.gif
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Well seen you go to Scapa-your far too cultured for the Old Firm!!!
mortonjag 2005-09-26 12:19:35 I was a wee bit surprised that some of our members on the other forum seemed to be having a gratuitous go at Referee Ian Fyfe.

In my opinion, the guy is a complete fanny on the pitch, but that's where it should start and end surely.
mortonjag 2005-09-26 12:25:05
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 26 2005, 12:23 PM)
In Lebanon, men are legally allowed to have sex with animals, but the animals must be female. Having sexual relations with a male animal is punishable by death.
(Like THAT makes sense.)

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There are men in Guam whose full-time job is to travel the countryside and deflower young virgins, who pay them for the privilege of having sex for the first time
Reason: under Guam law, it is expressly forbidden for virgins to marry.
(Let's just think for a minute; is there any job anywhere else in the world that even comes close to this?)

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In Hong Kong, a betrayed wife is legally allowed to kill her adulterous husband, but may only do so with her bare hands. The husband's illicit lover, on the other hand, may be killed in any manner desired.
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(But of course!)

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In Cali, Colombia, a woman may only have sex with her husband, and the first time this happens, her mother must be in the room to witness the act.
(Makes one shudder at the thought.)

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In Santa Cruz, Bolivia, it is illegal for a man to have sex with a woman and her daughter at the same time.
( I presume this was a big enough problem that they had to pass this law?)

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In Maryland, it is illegal to sell condoms from vending machines with one exception: Prophylactics may be dispensed from a vending machine only "in places where alcoholic beverages are sold for consumption on the premises."
(Is this a great country or what? Well . . . not as great as Guam!)

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Banging your head against a wall uses 150 calories an hour.
(Who volunteers for this stuff?)

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Humans and dolphins are the only species that have sex for pleasure.
(Is that why Flipper was always smiling?)

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The ant can lift 50 times its own weight, can pull 30 times its own weight and always falls over on its right side when intoxicated.
(From drinking little bottles of ... ?)
(Did the government pay for this research??)

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Butterflies taste with their feet.
(Ah, geez.)

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An ostrich's eye is bigger than its brain.
(I know some people like that.)

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Starfish don't have brains.
(I know some people like that, too.)

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And, the best for last:
Turtles can breathe through their butts.
(And I thought I had bad breath in the morning!)
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Like your Indonesia one-do they toss them off a cliff afterwards?
mortonjag 2005-09-26 12:29:35
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 26 2005, 12:16 PM)
No, I'm not suggesting anything potentially libellous about him.  Notwithstanding anything I may or may not have called him on Saturday.....

Nor am I suggesting seriously that he indulges in self-abuse on a regular basis, although that would explain his apparently poor eyesight.  As my 8 year old says, "the referee's a winker".
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Nice to know he can pronounce referee!
mortonjag 2005-09-26 12:33:30
QUOTE(1874morton @ Sep 26 2005, 12:28 PM)
Will everyone not admit he was just simply not good enough for the Ton. He cant even make it onto the bench for Ayr!
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Sorry mate, but I for one won't. On his game Maisano is at least first division class, and we were all happy enough when he and the other 'lost sheep' Williams were producing the goods a couple of seasons ago.
mortonjag 2005-09-26 12:47:48 Lots of nostalgic memories of Cappielow. Maybe the best is this one. I was quite young and on the Wee Dublin terracing at a Morton Celtic match. It was impossible to get to the limited toilet facilities, and the more polite (or less pissed) were relieving themselves(YES of urine), into empty lager cans, while most just pulled out their dicks and pissed on the ground. I'll never forget seeing a river of frothy urine running down the steps! It was an eye opener for a wee boy!

Needless to say, in those days, women were rarely seen on the terraces at football matches.
mortonjag 2005-09-26 12:56:29 It's just got to be Andy. I know there's a wee gamble involved because of his temperament, but he's not a kid, and maybe captaincy-long term-is just what he needs to give him that extra bit of self control. Surely nobody can doubt his ability to motivate the others.
mortonjag 2005-09-26 14:18:21
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 26 2005, 02:02 PM)
Gretna will probably have the league won by the middle of March.

Stick this post on the dressing room wall, Jim!

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Guess you don't walk under ladders and have already revised your will x times-c'mon man get real!!!
mortonjag 2005-09-26 14:29:08
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 26 2005, 02:19 PM)
Can't agree mate.

Weatherson and Fınlayson have the rıght sıde sewn up and Kevın has been brought ın prımarıly to make us a more solıd unıt - and he's done a fantastıc job thus far.
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Disagree-but only as I said, in terms of attack.

Kevin just gets lost up front, because he is so strong running, but not capable of holding the ball up, and his crossing to date has been very poor.

Look at the Alloa game-he was up that right wing nine or ten times, and could and should have done something, but zilch. Then Andy wanders out, whips across a decent ball, and it almost bounces in off big Chris's head.

I still feel Chris Millar is at his best played wide right of midfield.
mortonjag 2005-09-26 15:01:50
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Sep 26 2005, 02:30 PM)
We are playing 352.

Finlayson challenges anyone that tries to get past him.

Chris Millar is a s***e bag, as he showed several times on Saturday... Chris Millar would s***e it fae Gary Coleman, "whatcha talking about Midget!"

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED 352-Exactly, and that's one of the reasons we're not getting more goals: it's ok playing that way if you have two efficient guys midfield who can also overlap and cross, and Kev just can't.
mortonjag 2005-09-26 15:13:31
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 26 2005, 02:38 PM)
Let's not start this up again, but "phobia" means "fear of", not "disapproval of" or "dislike of".  I think the word you are looking for is...well, probably something else.

Fyffe?  He's a banana.....
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And your word Alibi, bananaphobia-something to do with benders, and if we're agreed on that I'll shut up!!!
mortonjag 2005-09-26 15:24:47
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Sep 26 2005, 03:08 PM)
What is incorrect about what I said?

Millar s***es out of challenges 9 times out of 10.

Finlayson always go in 100% for every ball, him and Weatherson have that right side sewn up.

Why would we want to put a lightweight like Millar in that spot and make life easier for the opposition's left winger?
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So your ideal team would be full of Vinnie Jones lookalikes-Cris is lightweight, and has the sense to commit himself only when he's got a chance of winning the ball and coming out unscathed. This topic's about Kev up the right wing- not in the boiler house where Millar is not great, and that's why his form dipped earlier in the season when we were lean midfield, and he had to play deeper.
mortonjag 2005-09-26 15:35:09
QUOTE(axeman @ Sep 26 2005, 03:25 PM)
It's funny that I could have sworn Kevin Finlayson was involved in the build-up to four of the goals against Alloa & scored a fifth.

Regardless Jim McInally rates him highly as do most Morton fans & obviously prefers his defensive qualities to Chris Millar, otherwise he wouldn't be playing him there.

Maybe what he is doing is exactly what he has been instructed to do by his Manager. Perhaps they don't want him to encroach on Andy McLaren's area of the field too much in the way that Paul Walker always did.
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Depends how you define 'build-up' Axeman, and he only scored because he got lost yet again, drifted inside, and sclaffed a shot which, had he hit it decently, would probably have risen and not deceived the goalie.

I'm sure you are right. Jim Mc is very defensive minded and has done a great job, and as long as we keep winning I don't care if Kev's in the lineup, but it's really sad to see people knocking the likes of Lilley and Templeman, for not scoring, when six or seven times in a game they're well positioned as Kev goes down that right wing, and the ball never comes over.
mortonjag 2005-09-26 15:39:19
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 26 2005, 03:33 PM)
Agree, I don't think this is the case at all. I can't think of any example of teams really turning it on against us.

Apart from a settling in period early on we've been the better team in every game and any time we've not won has to be blamed on our poor finishing rather than any major effort on the part of the opposition.

I think teams are showing us a bit of respect and are happy to grind out a draw rather than ploug forward in search of goals but Gretna will be victims of that as well.
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Yes, we have developed a squad capable of making competent teams look poor, and tomorrow night I bet we more than hold our own, but I agree, we're not lethal enough up front yet, and I guess we might lose out because of that.
mortonjag 2005-09-26 16:05:52
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Sep 26 2005, 03:46 PM)
Goal 1 - Finlayson wins header that he was 2nd favourite for on the bye line to knock it back for Millar to play in Weatherson.

Goal 2 - Finlayson passes it inside to Walker who pings it and scores.

Goal 3 - Finlayson plays through ball to Lilley, who knocks it out for McLaren to cross in for Templeman to score.

Goal 4 - Finlayson scores, albeit a sclaff.

Goal 5 - Finlayson (playing left wing back after Jim subbed), plays in Millar for final goal.
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Can we get back to the point-is anybody actually stating that Kev is useful up the right. I've already said I rate him highly for what he does well, but he does NOT create goals. In all of your instances above apart from his 'goal'-I was directly behind him, and it was a complete sclaff- sure he was involved but only in the 'build up'. You can hardly credit him with an assist in Walker's goal for example, which was unexpected and clever, or with Millar's when he ran past two or three men to score, or the other two where he wasn't involved in the final pass
mortonjag 2005-09-26 16:13:21
QUOTE(stubaws @ Sep 26 2005, 04:08 PM)
i think he is the captain due to his never say die attitude and unquestionable effort. he can look very uncomfortable on the ball at times though. if ur looking for an on-field inspiration, however, look no further then andy mclaren who in that respect is probably the best choice for captain
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Absolutely, Stu leads by example but is too quiet by nature, and the rest are too young. Andy is hotheaded, but I believe that captaincy could just tame that, and he is a great motivator.
mortonjag 2005-09-26 16:29:14
QUOTE(axeman @ Sep 26 2005, 04:19 PM)
I think he does well up the right side.

Tell me Mortonjag if he hadn't done what he did in the other four goals would we have scored them ?. A yes or no will do.
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"No"!, and if Andy or Chris Millar had been up the right wing with the opportunity to put in a telling cross as often as Kev was against Alloa, would they have done so, and not completely wasted the ball-a yes or no for that too please!!!
mortonjag 2005-09-27 09:14:04
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Sep 26 2005, 09:15 PM)
There was a poll a couple of weeks ago about Finlayson with most coming out in favour of him starting every week, burt I suppose we could have 100 positive polls for players and folk would just keep starting negative threads a couple of weeks later to try and get people on their side.

Enough said but I'm sure there'll either be a negative or defensive reply.

Negative  -  What's the point but to upset the team / player.

Defensive - You're just trying to justify your negative comment about the player / team.
Wake up and smell the coffee or would you rather we were where we were before Dougie done the biz !!
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All I've said from the word go is that Kev is a tremendous squad player, but useless up the right, as a result of which we're losing out on opportunities from cross balls.

I'm not slagging the guy or suggesting he be 'dropped'. Football nowadays is not just about eleven men, and I simply think we should start games attack minded, with an active right wing-and sure if we go two up, bring Kev on straight away.

And by the way FAO Thornton et al, I found that shirt when I moved house, and the dog seemed the best place for it!!
mortonjag 2005-09-27 09:26:28 I was talking to three Ayr supporters after the game. Not only were they friendly, having just lost to a late goal, but they said we should have scored three, and are more solid than Gretna.

And we all agreed that Mr Fyfe was probably pre-menstrual!
mortonjag 2005-09-27 09:54:20 Just wondered if anybody can confirm that the Scots term 'smirrin' comes from St. Mirren, and relates to the perpetually dismal ambience of the area!!!
mortonjag 2005-09-27 10:26:03 This headline alone on the back page of today's Herald takes up more space than the total coverage (on third back) of both Bells Cup semis.


"Old Firm cup-tie is the target for Novo

Spanish striker sidelined for six to eight weeks by metatarsal injury".

Is anyone surprised? sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-09-27 10:41:05
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Sep 27 2005, 10:34 AM)
No offence but why start a thread, when a thread was started 7 minutes before this one asking the exact same question?

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So that guys like you will make an arse of themselves by stating the obvious-only joking mate, and I know I owe you for that last prediction, so I'll try to get closer tonight by predicting 6233
mortonjag 2005-09-27 10:47:57
QUOTE(strongbad @ Sep 27 2005, 10:40 AM)
It is a sad state of affairs but it doesnt suprise me in the slightest. The OF will always dominate the back pages.

slightly off topic but one thing that annoys me is the coverage of the Junior Cup Final and the complete refusal of any kind of Bells Cup coverage from anyone.

Why oh why show the Junior Cup Final and not the Bells Cup Final live on TV???
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Interesting point-I may be wrong but does it not come right at the arse end of the season. Maybe they're just trying to milk the last drop!
mortonjag 2005-09-27 11:07:26
QUOTE(strongbad @ Sep 27 2005, 10:53 AM)
probably. It just seems strange that they devote all that time and money to an amateur/junior football match (even if it is a final) when their are proffesional finals being played that dont even warrant a 20 minute highlights programme.

I recall our last B&Q Cup Final vrs Hamilton got a 20 second review on the STV news that evening and it showed one or two goals being scored out of the five that day.

pathetic.
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Absolutely-I feel it's just further evidence of SPL exclusivity, and a bloody insult to Bells.

Like St. Mirren or not, they're currently leading the first division, and our crowd tonight will outstrip innumerable SPL attendances this season.
mortonjag 2005-09-27 11:16:27
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 27 2005, 11:07 AM)
I've emailed the Scotsport producer to see if they plan to show any highlights of the Challenge Cup final, I'll let you know what the reply is.
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Hope you said your name was Murray and you really need to see it!!
mortonjag 2005-09-27 11:27:59 Just had a word with The Big Man up top. Says Mirren was never a real saint, and gets all the s***ty jobs and-oh yes the weather-he hasn't decided yet!!
mortonjag 2005-09-27 11:37:18
QUOTE(strongbad @ Sep 27 2005, 11:28 AM)
In England they show the LDV Vans trophy etc on Sky Sports. That is their equivalent to our Challenge Cup.
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Aye but is that not the place where they show Test Matches and things too!
mortonjag 2005-09-27 11:47:15
QUOTE(strongbad @ Sep 27 2005, 11:40 AM)
what if it is? I think its good they support lesser known teams.

scotland is still in the dark ages where this is concerned and its mainly down to the old scum's monopoly.
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Think you missed my sarcasm Strongbad-that's exactly what I was getting at.

Anyhow, I live in Glasgow, and I can assure you they're not so "cock a hoop" at the moment-gon yersel Hearts!
mortonjag 2005-09-27 12:00:14
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Sep 27 2005, 11:44 AM)
how i hate this forum
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Is this an anagram or a meaningful statement-if the latter, stop wasting your time and away and read Germaine Greer!!
mortonjag 2005-09-27 12:07:23
QUOTE(strongbad @ Sep 27 2005, 11:59 AM)
laugh.gif yeah! long may it last! - I also hope Inter stuff Rangers tomorrow night.

who have celtic got in europe anyway??  wink.gif

funny fact for the season... dundee united lasted longer in europe than celtic!! HAHAHAH  laugh.gif
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I'm not ashamed to tell you I don't even know!
mortonjag 2005-09-27 12:31:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 27 2005, 12:21 PM)
... and soon artmedia of bratislava get to beat the Huns as well.

funny that.

There must be a God.
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Yeah and he's getting fed up with all this calf lick / proddy stunt stuff rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-09-27 12:41:05
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Sep 27 2005, 10:38 AM)
fair enough ; so what's the joke ?
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Benny Hill made a lot of money out of tits!
mortonjag 2005-09-27 12:47:17
QUOTE(strongbad @ Sep 27 2005, 10:31 AM)
I see no harm in teaching both. I personally believe in a designer but I respect the right of others to believe differently.

It must be said that creationists can just be as extreme as evolutionists. oftentimes creationsits seem dumb and base their beliefs solely on emotional feelings, whereas evolutionists do appear to be the wiser more thoughtful bunch.

however many scientists now agree that although they may not believe in a personal god, they can not rule out the possibilty of an intellegint creator, or first cause. (even Darwin in his book "The Origin of Species" does not rule out the chance of a god - and HE is the founder of the evolution theory).

I for one believe the intricite design and balance found in nature and the universe is very hard to put down to random mutation over billions of years.

If someone told me the pc I am working on just now just evolved over a few thousand years then I would be inclined to think that person was indeed crazy. However if someone told me a team of designers and engineers made it then that would make a whole lot more sense... and a computer is far less intricite than say the human brain for example.
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I've spent years agonising over this, and have reached the conclusion that the only logical answer is, 'Don't know and let's leave it at that'.
mortonjag 2005-09-27 13:25:28
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 27 2005, 01:20 PM)
Man already did....
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What! 1st, 2nd, or both?
mortonjag 2005-09-27 13:31:43
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 27 2005, 01:25 PM)
Not sure whether to risk it.  Have to leave Dumfries about 5 to get through Glasgow, don't want to get there to find the game off.  And I can't remember seeing us win a semi final.  Ever.  (I wasn't there in 63, Newton, before you ask).  Don't think I can have been at the 92 semi cos I can't even remember who we beat.

I should work tonight, but....
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I think you can pretty well bet it'll be on Alibi.

It's been dry most of the morning in the area, and although the rain's very heavy when on, the squalls have been short lived, so I think there's little chance of waterlogging.

Also gather from the forum that the covers have been off at Love St. in the last hour or so, and pitch looks fine.
mortonjag 2005-09-27 13:40:41
QUOTE(upaclose @ Sep 27 2005, 01:37 PM)
Voltaire also said "It is to Scotland that we look for our idea of civilisation"

Shows you how much he knew....
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mortonjag 2005-09-27 14:45:37
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 27 2005, 01:56 PM)
Amazing.

Truly amazing.

We're second in the league, playing well, winning games that we would previously not have....and still giving abuse to players.

Templeman, Lilley, Finlayson.

Kev does a power of work on the right hand side, and has improved the team enormously. His delivery of crosses into the box is, clearly, a weak point, but he if he had that would he have signed for us?

Great workrate, good touch, solid enough - he could be an SPL player, earning a few bucks more than Morton pay him, if he had the complete package.

Remember we are still a second division side, with second division players (in the main).

Also note that the players we have are GOOD second division players. Every player in this division has weak points to his game...else they would be plying their trade in Serie A.

Give them a break guys!
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There's a hell of a difference between abuse and criticism, Trumpton, and the forum IS for opinions.

Kevin, as I said before, is a great squad player, but has been totally lost up the right touchline, and we're losing potential goals from crosses because of that.

Maybe they should play to his strength by always having someone available to overlap, and let him move inside with his options still open, but to date that just hasn't been happening
mortonjag 2005-09-27 15:19:06
QUOTE(tongreenockmorton @ Sep 27 2005, 03:00 PM)
This is the funniest pish I have ever read thank god none of you lot are the manager please can someone tell me how they are qualified to even comment on half the stuff some of you do can no-one come on here and be positive or are some people not happly unless they are slating somebody !!!!
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Come on, you don't have to be an artist to recognise a crap painting. We're not pretending to have managerial qualifications, and well you know it.

Do you go to all the home and away matches as I do, and if so, are you willing to suggest that Jim McInally thinks Kev Finlayson IS good up the right touchline?

Anyhow, if you've read the forum, you'll see that most of the posters have been talking about good and bad points and NOT just slating players.
mortonjag 2005-09-27 16:04:03
QUOTE(tongreenockmorton @ Sep 27 2005, 03:43 PM)
yes I am afraid you do you stick to your day job and I hope Jim Mc sticks to his, I go to every game home and away and he is not crap mate you obviouslay know nothing enough said !!!
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Can hardly be bothered replying, but I will by asking you to read every comment I've made on this thread.

I've said repeatedly that Kev is a fantastic squad player, and I take the last poster's point about formations.

I'll do it for you in capitals: KEVIN FINLAYSON IS NOT CRAP, but in my opinion he can't make good use of the right touchline.
mortonjag 2005-09-27 17:54:18
QUOTE(Sammario @ Sep 27 2005, 04:30 PM)
Have a guess how many T-Mobile employees have a degree.

How many do you think have a degree in dealing with obnoxious cockmunchers on the phone?

Hate to shatter your illusions but your degree probably wont get you the job you want.

Like the previous guy said. Students make their choice. Why should they get things for less than the rest of us?
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Truth is most students are not well off, and certainly can't afford fifteen quid on a Tuesday night, so if you are a student and a Ton supporter, sorry, but if those guys (who sound like they've got chips on their shoulders) have their way you'll just have to stay at home and we'll have less support against the Midden.

Talk about shooting themselves in the feet!!
mortonjag 2005-09-28 09:42:10 I take my hat off to Kevin-last night he was an absolute powerhouse, but did you notice he was playing attacking midfield and allowed to move inside where he often looked menacing. I'd have him playing like that every week.

Incidentally, he did get one chance to cross from the right late in the second half, and gifted it to the goalie-but that's just our Kev I guess!
mortonjag 2005-09-28 10:23:15
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 28 2005, 10:02 AM)
Talk about snatching an insult from the jaws of a compliment.
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I'm not going to be a sycophant just to please you lot!

What more am I supposed to say-OK here goes-I abjectly apologise for daring to criticise the iconic Mr. Finlayson, fully accept the error of my ways, promise never to do it again, and will willingly lick the arse of every poster who cannot assess a player objectively xxxxxx biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-09-28 10:38:49 The ref was good last night, in general, but from where we were sitting we had almost as good a view as any spectator could get. Andy was in the box, moving in on goal, and brought down. The defender did not make ball contact, and it was a clear cut penalty.

Any previous behaviour by McLaren, should have had nothing to do with it, and I think the ref WAS a bit off with the decision-after all, if he judged it to be a dive, it should have been a booking, so giving him the benefit of the doubt he may have been unsighted, (AND the linesman!!!)

Anyhow, we did ourselves proud, and there was very little left for us in this Diddy cup, so let's be glad the sad b's won on penalties. After all they didn't get that mutch else last night!
mortonjag 2005-09-28 10:45:09
QUOTE(Benny Boy @ Sep 28 2005, 10:36 AM)
Div is right. For all our good play, we never really looked like scoring.
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We certainly did waste a hell of a lot of chances, but football's about luck as well, and we hit the woodwork twice, and had one and a half good penalty claims turned down-with a rub o' the green we could have won by three or four goals.
mortonjag 2005-09-28 11:00:43
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 28 2005, 10:48 AM)
Nobody said you can't criticise him.  That goes for the rest of the team as well.  But to come on here after his performance last night and pick him up on ONE stray cross is a bit OTT.
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It was 'tongue in cheek' you numpty!
mortonjag 2005-09-28 11:04:22
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 28 2005, 10:51 AM)
Here's what he told the Sun: "There's no doubt that Morton were the better team in the 1st Half until we re-organised things.  They had looked the hungrier team until then."
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Do you just read the Sun for the football? blink.gif
mortonjag 2005-09-28 11:10:22 My brother's a lifelong Ton supporter, but can't get to matches, so last night's was his first for ages (he looked a right fanny with his spanking new scarf!), anyhow, for him Chris Millar was the one Ton player who really stuck out.
mortonjag 2005-09-28 11:15:21
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 28 2005, 11:05 AM)
There was nothing in your original post to indicate 'tongue-in-cheek'.  As you probably know, reading messages on the internet for their meaning is quite difficult, so sorry if I've misinterpreted.

You could have used a smilie though  tongue.gif  biggrin.gif  wink.gif  laugh.gif
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Fair enough- I thought 'That's our Kev' was the clue-no really, I was highly impressed-I really like him and was getting frustrated because so much of his hard work was coming to nothing, as it seemed they wanted him to play as a 'right winger', and he just isn't, but last night he was tremendous-Mr 200%!!
mortonjag 2005-09-28 11:23:47
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 28 2005, 11:13 AM)
That and Dear Deidre!  laugh.gif
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It's got nice boobies as well.

I think Deirdre is really a man, and the letters are computer generated-I don't buy the Scum regularly (Herald man), but my partner sometimes enjoys the crap they churn out, and I've read a couple of those Deirdrie columns-honestly where has our sanity gone. I was thinking of writing in that I have an uncontrollable desire to shag my neighbour's budgie, but every time I get near my willy droops 'cos it wears a St. Mirren scarf.
mortonjag 2005-09-28 11:34:50 It's anybody's guess-what we seem to be really good at is 'neutralising' other teams-making them look worse than they really are-and the Blue Toon aren't that great anyhow.

It's all down to how many we can stick in the net-against Alloa we came good, and dried up again at Ayr, but sooner or later somebody's going to get really humped by us so I'm going for 6-0!! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-09-28 11:38:27
QUOTE(Mr MOrton @ Sep 28 2005, 11:34 AM)
You couldnae score in a brothel tongue.gif
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We don't have places like that down here-stop wasting your money on AIDS wink.gif
mortonjag 2005-09-28 11:52:13 Unfortunately there's often very little you can do in those situations, unless the Police or Stewards get a tip-off in advance.

On a lighter note, why did the cistern in the lavvy survive, or did nobody else notice it advised us to contact Hugh Scott if we had any problem!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2005-09-28 11:58:27
QUOTE(Mr MOrton @ Sep 28 2005, 11:48 AM)
You dont need them,you have the family home.
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Precisely-Greenock people make good use of their resources, and are frugal with their money! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-09-28 12:06:33 I think last night was a real step forward for the boys-sure there may have been some tears of frustration and disappointment- and with a wee bit of luck we would have been in the final, but of WHAT?- and against WHOM?

No harm to Hamilton, but I think we are now better out of it, and can move on in the knowledge that we are more than capable of outplaying good first division outfits.

I'd honestly like to have seen what Gretna would have made of St. Mirren last night.
mortonjag 2005-09-28 12:45:43
QUOTE(miscno_17 @ Sep 28 2005, 12:31 PM)
I think that if it had been any other player than McLaren that had went down for the Penalty it would've been given, He was alway looking for the Penalty and too be honest i thought it was a foul but i can see why it wasn't given as McLaren doesn't do his self any favours at times with the Officials

As for the Greacen one i think there was a shout but i'd have been annoyed if we where given a penalty against us there one of those soft decisions which couldve went either way!!
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Maybe I'm nitpicking-but are you saying it WAS a penalty and the ref knew it but waved play on because it was McLaren-or do you think he was unsighted and assumed McLaren dived, but bottled out of booking him?

As I said earlier there was definitely no ball contact from that tackle.
mortonjag 2005-09-28 12:58:27 To be honest guys, a wee letter to everybody and anybody would probably make f*ck all difference. The NHS is an underfunded, overmanaged dinosaur. They've known about MRSA for ages, and how to prevent it, but if you have a top heavy overpaid and often inadequately experienced beaurocracy sitting all day in the office manipulating figures, how the heck can you also pay for decent supervision at ward level.

Bring back the Matron and Hospital Superintendent!
mortonjag 2005-09-28 13:14:01
QUOTE(BubbaTON @ Sep 28 2005, 01:08 PM)
overall i think there was about 1500 empty seats in the Caley and Morton end of the North Bank. Maybe 500/600 overall i the Midden North Bank and the stand behind the goal, aswell as what looked like about 400/500 empty seats in the main stand.

Thats between 2500/2600 empty seats in a Stadium which holds a few hundred under 10,000. So the attendance should have been around 7,500. Creative accounting has reduced that by 1000, so thats 1000 people's gate money straight in the pocket of the Midden and Stuart Gilmour, before tax and before the gate money is halved. mad.gif
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Maybe I'm being naive, but if what you're all saying is true, how do they actually do it.

Also were Midden season tickets valid, as that might at least explain some apparent discrepancy.
mortonjag 2005-09-28 13:25:17
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 28 2005, 01:17 PM)
They weren't
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So you're saying that they have some sort of scam whereby the stated attendance is entirely different from the numbers counted through the turnstiles.

It's actually a very serious accusation of fraud, and if anyone has genuine evidence the police should be involved surely.
mortonjag 2005-09-28 13:44:41
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 28 2005, 01:33 PM)
No, you're wrong, Mr MO.

I popped out at lunchtime and proved it....    smile.gif
It was a lovely plate of broth too, but the waitress threw me out cos my football landed in her coq au vin.
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Keep it simple Alibi-he's from Paisley after all.

By the way how was the cockaleekie?
mortonjag 2005-09-28 14:15:47
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 28 2005, 02:00 PM)
I'm hoping to have the operation next week....

The waitress said she wasn't allowed to eat on duty but she rather fancied a nibble of my sausage when she got off.  She said it was the largest she'd ever seen, so I gave her a big tip.
Who needs Benny Hill and the carry on team?
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But did you BANGER?
mortonjag 2005-09-28 15:06:14
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 28 2005, 02:07 PM)
Sigh...  there's always one.

Rafa, are you dyslexic?  Are you really Safa the Pric?
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Naw Alibi-it's jist a aneegram o' whit we get fur Sundae dinnur: 'Chips after a'

(diktaitid bit no sined by rafa)
mortonjag 2005-09-28 15:13:52
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 28 2005, 02:49 PM)
No, but I gave her a tip.  Always put salt on your marigold seeds....
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'-and pepper up your **** or something!!
mortonjag 2005-09-28 15:39:08
QUOTE(otter @ Sep 28 2005, 03:13 PM)
where : 1 a : at, in, or to what place <where is the house> <where are we going> b : at, in, or to what situation, position, direction, circumstances, or respect <where does this plan lead> <where am I wrong>
e.g where is paisley?
were : 1. Second person singular and plural and first and third person plural past indicative of be.
e.g we were in paisley last night.

I'm not the best speaker in the world, i'd be the first to admit it, and I dont know why, but this mixing up of where and were for some reason really bugs my tits.

Sorry.

Phil.

The futures bright....
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Were did that come from?

Where you just trying to wind us up?

I dislike grammatical errors too, but can't say that is by any means the worst-what really gets me, and it's become common, is mixing singular and plural-e.g. talking of 'A' Morton supporter and saying 'THEIR' favourite team plays at Cappielow
mortonjag 2005-09-28 15:53:37 Guess I could have listed the whole team!
mortonjag 2005-09-29 09:15:11 I've taken in quite a few first division games over the past couple of seasons, and I think, to be honest, that, although your Mortons and Gretnas would undoubtedly be up near the top, the GENERAL standard is better than the second, with fitter and faster players, and more of an attempt to play football.

I also feel that this season we have a one-off situation in our division, and although Ayr have started well, the 'big four' are undoubtedly Morton, Gretna, Raith, and Partick. The latter two started slowly, and hopefully we can win it with Gretna second, but if I was a bookie I would only be giving an odds-on bet that those will be the top four at the end of this season.
mortonjag 2005-09-29 09:26:36 The 'futures' (plural noun, e.g., describing young talent) followed by 'bright' (adjective describing that talent), is grammatically correct, but as an abbreviation for 'the future is bright', the apostrophe must be inserted.

eye fink but long tyme sinse eye wos at skool
mortonjag 2005-09-29 09:52:54
QUOTE(bigB @ Sep 29 2005, 09:29 AM)
I have watched most of Morton's games this season and I think the fitness of the players this season is amazing compared to last season. Alright most of the teams in the second division may be part-time but you could see against Gretna & St Mirren that the pace Morton set they kept it going for most of the 90 minutes so for the fitness levels in the First Division we have nothing to fear.
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Exactly, Jim McInally has now got a squad which could last 90 minutes in the SPL, and it's their fitness and enthusiasm as much as their skill, that is making other teams look very ordinary.
mortonjag 2005-09-29 10:03:27 I can understand the emotions this has whipped up, but if the said gentleman had been sixty years younger, covered in tattoos, and dressed in shabby clothes, the press wouldn't have bothered their arses.

It's only 'Man bites dog" stuff that sells their crap.
mortonjag 2005-09-29 10:25:54 This puzzles me as well, especially when I think of some of our previously successful forward lines.

The tried and tested formula of the 'hit man', and the decoy, (e.g. McGraw and Caven) should be able to work with Temps and Lilley, but so far hasn't, and I do think we've had bad luck as well.

What I've also noticed is that although we get the ball into the box fairly often, the quality of delivery hasn't been that great-we don't have 'wingers' as such unless Andy McLaren goes wide, and hopefully the other boys will be working on this.
mortonjag 2005-09-29 10:53:31
QUOTE(standman @ Sep 28 2005, 10:37 PM)
In her early twenties - brown hair, nice eyes - normally in stand at Cappielow but was at the front of our stand at Love St Last night ?

Makes a pleasant change from the stewards in the Cowshed, by all accounts !
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Standman, are you too mean to use the 'Guys seeking Gals' ads?!!! cool.gif
mortonjag 2005-09-29 11:30:17
QUOTE(upaclose @ Sep 29 2005, 11:20 AM)
Didn't treat him harshly enough IMO. Should've kicked f*** out the old c***.
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Is that all?!! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-09-29 11:41:30
QUOTE(mirrenbud @ Sep 29 2005, 11:35 AM)
Going by your theory then we should do well in the premier league  we played Motherwell off the park and Grimsby would do well in the premiership after beating Spurs. What you have to remember wee diddy teams raise there
game against bigger opposition .
Nobody is saying morton didnt deserve to win the other night but it was only one game not a season long campaign.
there will be games this year you will get your arse whipped but still win.
so get a grip of reality your still a second division team who has not played above
that level for many a year .

p.s were in the final and your on  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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mortonjag 2005-09-29 11:55:39
QUOTE(strongbad @ Sep 29 2005, 11:45 AM)
Nearly every Skunk I have ever worked with has had these same delusions of granduer!  laugh.gif

Dykebar isn't good enough for them!
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Maybe so, but the poor b*stards are surely entitled to a luxury holiday once in a while, and you DO get fed and stuff!!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2005-09-29 12:45:05
QUOTE(thesmithston @ Sep 29 2005, 06:09 AM)
Israelis have killed 425 Palestinians since September 29, 2004.

would anyone like to take a guess as to how many israelis have been killed during the same period?
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Christ's sake man, I thought this was a Morton web site, not a f*cking political platform.

At least over here we only throw bricks through old ladies' windaes. mad.gif
mortonjag 2005-09-29 12:57:45
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Sep 29 2005, 12:42 PM)
I haven't noticed any cute stewards - it's always guys that are stewarding in the part of the stand where I sit.
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Aye and Standman's the wee bloke wi' the thick glesses
mortonjag 2005-09-29 13:11:46
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Sep 29 2005, 12:44 PM)
I don't think they're that bad - there's nothing wrong with a bit of harmless banter.
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Everything in moderation-sure-as long as they don't start infecting us with viruses and MRSA, and HIV and stuff-s*** I forgot to wash my hands, and there's a funny smell coming from the computer-and the screen's gone black and white, and there's skunks in their millions running over the keyboard and breeding like skunks-aaargh unsure.gif
mortonjag 2005-09-29 13:26:14
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 28 2005, 10:33 PM)
Xmas day is the day I work the hardest tongue.gif
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So your the guy with the red suit and wellies!
mortonjag 2005-09-29 13:34:14
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 29 2005, 01:25 PM)
Time to put this to bed, some of the posts on the subject are frankly embarrassing. Saint Mirren are top of the first division because they are the best team in that league, 1-0 wins or not. Doesn't matter if we out sang, out fought or out danced them on Tuesday night.
Giez a break.
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Ergo Gretna are the best team in division 2 or is that different Davie, and were Stranraer the second best team last year-I certainly agree with your concept, but not the logic. huh.gif
mortonjag 2005-09-29 13:45:54 1st January-but only since I went teetotal!

Oh the sense of smugness, the enjoyment of doing what you like in complete tranquility, and the gratuitous indignation at those drunken b*stards lying wherever!!!!! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-09-29 13:56:25
QUOTE(mirrenbud @ Sep 29 2005, 01:48 PM)
Let me think  blink.gif
how come someone from Greenock knows about Dykebar
I wonder what the answer could be  ohmy.gif
oh I know he supports Morton he must be a loony  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
enjoy your electric shots ya nobend
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Yer right the treatment disnae work, an' by the way, don't stay in yersel' the night!
mortonjag 2005-09-29 14:43:35
QUOTE(otter @ Sep 29 2005, 02:31 PM)
Just to put a wee finnish on this. I saw an advert for Orange last night. The bassas use an apostrophe!
bugger  sad.gif
Phil.

The future's bright.........note the '
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Nice one Otter -Orange bassas- and as 'bassas' is a kind of abbreviation, I guess it should have at least one apostrophe somewhere, but since it's not in the dictionary, we might be allowed to call it a bastard word!!!
mortonjag 2005-09-29 16:21:03
QUOTE(rafa the spic @ Sep 29 2005, 03:59 PM)
Apart from a pre-season friendly remind me what was the last thing you won? 1987 scottish cup winners 2000 1st div champs,might not have won a lot,but a lot more than you [attachmentid=512][attachmentid=512]
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Did you ever think about your profile-or anything for that matter-should it not say 'wind up from Paisley".

Fortunately with the prevailing SW wind in this area we're up wind from you lot, and furthermore, we don't have a sewage plant less than half a mile from our stadium!
mortonjag 2005-09-30 10:54:36 Guys, all the wind -up merchants are doing is giving us a back handed compliment.

They know fine well they were totally jammy on Tuesday, and outplayed for most of the game, and all this bull is just to cover up their relief and embarrassment.

When they enter that auspicious hall of fame to play Real Hamilton in the final, they'll be s***ting their pants, and will probably have their mediocrity highlighted yet again! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2005-09-30 18:11:00 Definitely the first Saturday after the football season ends-hate it!
mortonjag 2005-10-01 10:54:14
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Sep 30 2005, 10:30 PM)
Some-one gotta start it!  tongue.gif

I'll go for 2,916
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I was closer than you on Tuesday so we're drawing!

Peterhead will only bring a couple of hundred, but it's just after pay day, and we morally beat the Skunks so I think we'll get about 3150
mortonjag 2005-10-01 11:28:46 I remember being as nervous as I had been for years, and will never forget the noise of those bloody drums.

On reflection the Blue Toon supporters were fantastic, and it must have been a tremendous game for a 'neutral'.

Shame the same nice people are going to get gubbed 6-0 today! dry.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-01 11:33:28
QUOTE(Cowshed Boab @ Oct 1 2005, 09:43 AM)
I don't think we will lose any of those games, but maybe one or two draws might set the points total down.  11, 13, 15.
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I agree with you-we are totally dominating the midfield, and our defence is getting better each week.

Our problem at the moment is delivery into the box, I think, and if we can get that sorted, we could win the lot.
mortonjag 2005-10-01 11:37:03 I don't think cocky wee Chris's head will be down, as he was a bit unlucky, and had played a blinder, but Scott is probably sore as he only came on as a sub, and hasn't had a chance to prove himself yet this season.
mortonjag 2005-10-01 11:46:43 Interesting-but how the hell are they going to process all the data.

If it was only used to deal with the huge volume of vehicle related criminal activity in this country, it could be a great idea, but it still does give me an uneasy feeling in terms of personal liberties.
mortonjag 2005-10-01 11:51:36 Should be a pleasant change from the Fyfe's of this world but nothing is guaranteed.

I'm sure we had Hugh Dallas for one of our games last season, and for me he came over as pompous and over officious-almost as though the game was beneath him and he was refereeing schools football.
mortonjag 2005-10-01 12:00:25 Amazing- a shower of part time alkies posing as connoisseurs

C'mon guys be honest, if you really like your booze that much, buy the cheapest with the highest ABV and go for it!
mortonjag 2005-10-01 12:27:08
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Sep 29 2005, 09:00 PM)
And give you mouth cancer, all round bad idea to use that s***! sad.gif
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Where did you get that information, or are you just being as flippant as usual.

You could probably get oral carcinoma from almost anything if it was in there often enough and long enough. Why don't you try a sock or something? blink.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-02 11:38:44 Well done HamilTON !!!
mortonjag 2005-10-02 11:42:49 Like him or hate him, the wee toerag has come good in a higher division.

Personally I thought he was as sharp as a needle, and never gave up.

Good luck Alex.
mortonjag 2005-10-02 11:45:23
QUOTE(C B @ Oct 2 2005, 11:41 AM)
Bit harsh on Millar I think, he covers as much ground as anyone on the park!
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mortonjag 2005-10-02 11:49:38
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Oct 2 2005, 11:44 AM)
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thought templeman was excellent again yesterday, but it looks like some of our support will never like the guy.
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Correct-he's never going to be everybody's 'cup of tea', as he looks slow and clumsy, but the big guy has been contributing a hell of a lot, and quite frankly, it's derek Lilley who is disappointing me at the moment.
mortonjag 2005-10-03 11:09:16
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 2 2005, 06:18 PM)
Agree with most of what has been said by the sensible people but cannot go as far to say that Finlayson is a great player. That would mean there is little or no weaknesses in his game. Sadly for us, his crossing is nothing short of abysmal however as he beats players, gets into a lot of good positions etc people seem to forgive him for this.

I would consider playing him as right back of a back 4 and tell him not to bother straying as far forward as it's just a waste of time. What would be good is for him to track McLaren up the line to a) give him an out ball if he needs it and cool.gif cover for him if he runs into trouble.

As an attacking option, I'm sorry but there's no use having him on the park although defensively he's sound.
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Spot on Piehutt-I'm pissed off with people girning when we dare to criticise Kevin-I've said repeatedly that the man is tremendous in terms of workrate, and a great asset to the squad, but I'll say again, despite being contradicted, when he finds himself in an attacking position, he just gets lost, and his crossing makes me want to greet.
mortonjag 2005-10-03 11:20:27
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 2 2005, 02:37 PM)
Kev has imo been our best player this season.

All we ever hear about is the downside of his game ie his attacking qualities.

His excellent defensive attributes are constantly overlooked.

Twice yesterday he made last ditch tackles to bail out Peter and it appears to have gone unnoticed.

He's a fantastic player and has brought so much more stability to that right hand side of the park.

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Steal of the season imo.

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What absolute s***e. I don't think a single poster has stated that Kev is not a worthy squad player, and superb as an all round grafter, but why do you guys all need him to be perfect. He's a waste of time when he goes up the right, so stop jumping to the defence of the indefensible.
mortonjag 2005-10-03 11:33:45
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Oct 2 2005, 03:18 PM)
A giraffe is a lot more eligant!  smile.gif
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And can probably spell too!!! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-03 11:47:34 From all accounts Gretna had well over twenty shots at goal, and with normal luck you would expect to score two or three from that.

If the Gretna fans were really having a go at Alexander in that scenario, they were simply confirming that they are a shower of jumped-up brats with no pedigree.

When Mileson f*cks off to pastures new, they'll still be getting their nappies changed! mad.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-03 11:55:53
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 3 2005, 11:42 AM)
My post was of course aimed at the likes of you and your constant drivel.  smile.gif

Which part of my post isn't accurate?  blink.gif
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To answer that I have to assume that you can understand English.

As you clearly can't read your own post and my reply and reach a logical middle ground, there seems little point in particularising your inaccuracies!!! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-03 12:28:35
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Oct 3 2005, 12:07 PM)
Would the Morton fans would be kind if he was playing against us?  No danger.  Abuse like that is par for the course.  Unfortunate, but it's the way it is.
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Which is true but sad.

At least Andy's had the balls to admit and deal with his addictive personality-the scum that call him a 'junkie' and 'alky' will, in my opinion, never change.
mortonjag 2005-10-03 12:43:33
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 3 2005, 10:23 AM)
The current government wants desperately to be able to tax everything, including movement.  They will spin this to look like a good idea with lots of mention of terrorists and such like - but ffs do they really think terrorists are going to have these things on their cars?  With a personalised plate TER0R of course.  Their true motivation is to extort more money - and no doubt they will use the "congestion" and "environment" cliches too.

About time someone took Blair in a square go.  Oh, fiddlesticks, now I'll have MI5 round at my door tonight....
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Alibi, you'll have to something about the chip on your shoulder! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-03 12:47:46
QUOTE(Graeme @ Oct 3 2005, 12:37 PM)
Anyone got any funny tales from football games they have attended, be it cappielow or beyond.
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In the old days at scapa, you quite often got dogs running onto the pitch during the game-which always raised the roof, but I remember on one occasion, a bitch in heat ran the full length from the wee Dublin end and out at Sinclair St. pursued by several 'suitors'!
mortonjag 2005-10-03 13:03:37
QUOTE(MaxTon @ Oct 3 2005, 12:59 PM)
You still talking about dogs Mortonjag, or was some it some wee 14 year old nedette from up Sinclair Street, followed by a group of lads in Burberry caps??
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Sorry, but the bitch I saw looked reasonably well bred!
mortonjag 2005-10-03 13:10:21
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Oct 2 2005, 08:12 PM)
Mouthwashes 'cause' mouth cancer?

What, was this finding gleaned from research which involved alchies who smoke 40 a day swigging several pints of the stuff?
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Nice one Laura-and congratulations to the 'Chemist' on reaching 21.

Maybe by the time he's my age he'll be able to look at clinical papers objectively!! mad.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-03 13:17:25 I thought we had a 'hangover' after Tuesday, and that's hardly surprising-look what happened to the 'Midden' at Hamilton, but I entirely agree-we're dominating games and not getting goals-it is a problem.
mortonjag 2005-10-03 13:19:42
QUOTE(Graeme @ Oct 3 2005, 01:16 PM)
I remeber smeone launched a cauliflower on the pitch a few seasons back, why someone had one at cappielow is beyond me  laugh.gif
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Were there any 'cabbages' on the pitch, or was it in the good times?!
mortonjag 2005-10-03 13:33:35 Does anybody remember when we played E. Stirling away, a couple of seasons ago.

They had overestimated the crowd, and were handing out free soup to the Morton fans on the way out of the ground!
mortonjag 2005-10-03 13:36:53 Chic Charnley's incredulous expression as he shouted (and we all heard it), "you're f*cking blind linesman".
mortonjag 2005-10-03 13:44:42 They were bound to slip at some point, and hopefully will now regain momentum.

Anyway better to lose out to the Bairns than the Old Firm weans.
mortonjag 2005-10-04 10:27:28
QUOTE(Tokyoton @ Oct 3 2005, 07:44 PM)
were you one of them?
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Can't remember-it was so long ago, but I suspect I was more into pigs at that time!!! cool.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-04 10:47:10
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 3 2005, 07:36 PM)
Perhaps give him at right back and see if Spoonsy can do anything up front?

I know its difficult for McInally to change it when we're winning but we def have a problem scoring goals and if you keep doing the same thing why should we ever expect different results? We got out of jail on Saturday due to them missing a pen, it's cost us a Bells Cup Final spot and undoubtedly cost us points at Dumbarton ang perhaps against Gretna where we also dominated but couldn't score.

Somthing has to be done to get us scoring goals our dominance deserves.
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Spoonsy was signed as a striker, and when he came here at first was knocking them in for fun.

I accept that he's been a revelation in defence, but, as you say, it's goals we need-our defence and midfield are the best in the league, and we've got plenty of talent competing for a slot in defence- so why not give it a bash?
mortonjag 2005-10-04 13:48:37 THREE FACTS

Thousands of folk far wealthier than Best get 'preferential' treatment in Britain every year because they can skip the NHS.

He is a victim of his addictive personality-just like millions of unknowns who have never contributed anything of note to society-you might feel 'holier than thou'- but it's a fact of life.

All transplant patients are susceptible to infection because the immune system is damped down to prevent organ rejection.

AND A FOURTH

Every time the gutter press gets hold of a story like this, the unthinking 'lynch mob' on those forums has a field day. Hell of a lot of Holy Willies at Scapa!!! sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-04 14:36:41 If we had someone as well as Andy who could deliver QUALITY balls into the box I guess we'd probably already have scored far more.


I don't think we need more strikers (I include Spoonsy), and really think our central defence and midfield are very good, but you can have guys working their arses off in the box all day, and never scoring because the right balls don't come over.
mortonjag 2005-10-05 15:27:36 This thread has got very emotive.

I can totally understand the anger from those who have lost relatives-and I entirely agree that nobody should be able to jump the queue just because of celebrity status.

The trouble is that the nature of alcoholism is such that any alcoholic liver transplant patient is liable to relapse.

Quite high percentages do, but the Media are only interested in the Bests and Baxters of this world, and they are inevitably perceived to have been treated preferentially, whether or not they actually were.
mortonjag 2005-10-05 15:39:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 5 2005, 12:28 PM)
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John Boyd RIP
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Johnny Boyd was one of my heroes too-as you say his slide tackles were fantastic, and in those days, as long as you touched the ball first, almost anything else went, and many a winger was left hirpling early in the game.

Nowadays he would be collecting red cards by the barrowload! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-06 13:30:50
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Oct 5 2005, 05:43 PM)
Newton, Alibi, Mortonjag

Its nice to know I am not the only old fart on here!!

Yes I remember Johnny Boyd as a 'robust' defender.  Somehow there seemed to be more wet days at that time when sliding tackles could start from about 10 yards away from the opponent/victim.  It might also have been something to do with the drainage at Cappielow which was a complete mudheap from about late October on every season.

At that time, my dad had a bookie's shop in Greenock which was frequented by most of the Morton team.  We became quite friendly with a number of them and I remember going out to see Johnny Boyd in what was then Larkfield hospital, after a cartilage operation.  After that he was never quite the same player.

I still say he cost Morton more lost footballs than anyone else since!

Another thing I remember from that time was going to a pre season friendly at Third Lanark when a mystery goalkeeper was given a trial.  he was dressed all in black - a bit revolutionary for those days - and I stood behind his goal and watched him save two penalties.  Turned out to be Erik Sorensen and the start of the Danish invasion.
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Erik was some guy-could throw the old heavy ball to the half way line.

I don't know if this is right but my brother (who knows everything!) says he saved his first six or seven penalties in a row-anybody got stats?

I also believe he wore contact lenses, and because of his vision was sometimes a sucker for a snap shot from distance, but if you were moving in on him with the ball at your feet, your chances of scoring were very slim.
mortonjag 2005-10-06 14:34:21 On a lighter note, can any of you afficionados out there tell me who was responsible for the erection of Nelson's Column?

I don't think either Hardy or Lady Hamilton was an architect.
mortonjag 2005-10-07 10:06:52 If the play-off situation had been in place last season, we would probably now be in the first division, and how would Stranraer feel?

After all we blew it and they persevered and got their deserved promotion.

I think it stinks, having to graft for a whole season, and maybe finishing in second place by goal difference, then having to do it all over again.

The administrators "want their heads looked".
mortonjag 2005-10-07 10:12:59
QUOTE(C B @ Oct 7 2005, 08:54 AM)
Very probably - hellish bad timing - Rowan Alexander?
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So called 'super Ro' was in the last book ahead of many far better players IMO, but I have been watching the 'Ton' since the fifties and the author is about fifteen years my junior, so I probably shouldn't blame him too much!
mortonjag 2005-10-07 10:17:53
QUOTE(thedonn @ Oct 7 2005, 03:43 AM)
ah this is what ive missed by not posting on here the memories i hate to say it but i remember all of the above so does that mean i am officially an old codger, but who cares the memories are great john boyd knocking it out the stadium strachan and kiernan winnig headers and jim rielly captain running the midfield and my all time hero morris stevenson twisting and turning down the wing magic
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I've got to say that although Stevenson was a joy to watch, that whole squad was tremendous-wee Jimmy Wilson (dead cocky), baldy Bobby Adamson (ran like a greyhound), Joe Caven (hard, hard worker), but for me Mr Magic was McGraw.

At his best he was electrifying and had he been with the Old Firm-definite caps.
mortonjag 2005-10-07 11:00:26
QUOTE(para @ Oct 7 2005, 10:44 AM)
the there was old slap head eric smith, joe caven and bobby gray
The fish and chips were real fish and chips and you could reread the previous weeks match report. And for afters a couple of tunnocks caramel waffers and a bottle of lawsons american cream soda or the real tizer
I must be an old slap head codger too
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Does anybody recall the earlier Hal Stewart days-the original "Man in black"-Finbarr Flood, Archie Robertson, Doug Cowie, Bobby Evans, Mallon, Kiernan, et al.

It's amazing what those guys did on a Cappielow quagmire with the old heavy dubbinned ball-when footballers were men and not over paid prima donnas!!! huh.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-07 11:21:39
QUOTE(thedonn @ Oct 7 2005, 02:02 AM)
just like to say hi to all of you , ive really missed the chat as i didnt know this site was up and running, hope to have some good banter with people old and new,and a good frank discussion on all things morton
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So thedonn has seen daylight at last! Hi! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-07 11:30:48
QUOTE(se56an @ Oct 7 2005, 11:23 AM)
I got this today and  the warning appears  genuine.
Yesterday,  a friend of mine was  travelling on a  Gourock  to Paisley
train.

A man of Arabic appearance got off the train and my  friend  noticed that he
had left his bag behind. She  grabbed the bag  and ran after him, caught up
with him  in the terminal and  handed him back his bag.

He was extremely  grateful and reached into his bag which appeared to
contain  large bundles of money. He looked around to  make sure nobody was
looking  and whispered "I can never repay your kindness, but  I will try
to..............with a word of advice for  you : Stay away from  Paisley "

My friend was genuinely terrified.  "Is there  going to be an attack?"
she asked him.
"No ... ", he whispered back...... "It's a  sh*thole."
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"But I moved there from Westminster"!
mortonjag 2005-10-07 12:17:00
QUOTE(midTONs @ Oct 7 2005, 12:12 PM)
The above True story appeared on the St Mirren black & white army site and lasted less than hour before being closed, they seem to think it's ok to launch personal attacks on us but don't ever have a dig at their town. mad.gif
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Don't be true hard on them. The truth always hurts!
mortonjag 2005-10-07 13:09:56 For my sins, I was sent to a school where they played rugby and soccer was kind of frowned on. We weren't allowed footballs in the playground, but we still set up goals, and had great games playing with a tennis ball!

Sorry guys, but one of my mates (who was damned good at it) in those days was Jackie Copland! blink.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-07 13:16:53 Football pitches and their preparation are, like women, frequently held in scant regard by men who are only interested in scoring. wink.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-07 14:32:59
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 7 2005, 02:23 PM)
It wasn't pre-season, it was a midweek game in or around February, because Erik joined us towards the end of the season.  There were highlights of the game on Scotsport that night, can't see that happening nowadays!  I believe it ended 1-1 although I don't know how I can possibly remember that....
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Alibi, can you, or anybody else actually recall how many penalties he saved in a row when he came to us. I thought it was three or four, but my brother, who is usually quite accurate, said it was six or seven-(and in those days you couldn't move until the ball was kicked)-he had unbelievable reflexes.
mortonjag 2005-10-07 14:36:48
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Oct 7 2005, 02:29 PM)
The above came from the thread on the Morton chat re John Boyd, a fullback we had in the sixties.  I attended Greenock High from 61-67 and all the local schools had at least four football teams grade by age.  Schools cup finals were at Cappielow and Morton got any number of good lads from that source.

I played at the Boat Club on the Esplanade in a jazz band on a Friday Night and that was a great venue with a fantastic atmosphere.  Anyone go there?  Always good for a 'lumber' and wee fumble down in the locker rooms!

We used to play also in various church halls (a favorite venue for dances then) but we got barred from most of them because our following were rather too fond of the bevvy for the church elders.

Then we always did the annual Liberal party mystery cruise to Rothesay.

On the Morton Front, after the record breaking 63/64 season we had not a bad year in 64/65 ended around midtable.  I remember beating Dundee 3-2 at Cappielow the first game.  The other highlight was inflicting that year's champions, Killie's worst defeat.  We beat them 5-0 on a mud heap Cappielow and McGraw got 4 and effectively ended the Scotland career of the Killie goallie, a guy called Campbell Forsyth.

Then there were the Danes - Sorensen, Arentoft, Jensen, Madsen, Jorn Sorensen, Kaj Johansen who was possibly the best fullback ever to grace Cappielow. plus loads of others.
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And what about Carl Bertelsen-he could outjump almost any defender, and if I'm not mistaken, scored a hat trick at Parkhead.
mortonjag 2005-10-07 14:43:11
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 7 2005, 02:38 PM)
That was Per Bartram...
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Thanks Alibi-there was such a seam of Danish talent-I think if you listed them all, and they were simultaneously available now, we would give any SPL team a run for its money.
mortonjag 2005-10-07 14:49:19
QUOTE(Guido @ Oct 7 2005, 02:28 PM)
In Jimmy Greaves new autobiography there's a great picture from the 70's of Arthur Montford giving advice to a long haired Gordon Brown!

Well it's kind of Morton related!
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Just any old Gordon Brown, or was he a footballer or something? !!!!! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-07 15:04:00
QUOTE(Guido @ Oct 7 2005, 02:57 PM)
Gordon Brown - Chancellor of the Exchequer.

You know, the guy who's number 2 in charge of the nation!

Tony Blaire's right hand man.

I believe he's also bought into Raith Rovers.

And Arthur Montford is on the board at Morton.
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Yes I know who Arthur is, but what's he doing speaking to Gordon Brown-is he a failed sports journalist turned politician-sounds par for the course to me!
mortonjag 2005-10-07 15:52:38
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 7 2005, 03:39 PM)
Maybe when Brown was student rector at Edinburgh Uni.

My ex wife claims she once snogged Gordon Brown at a rugby club disco (we're talking more than 30 years ago here).  Can I get a discount on my income tax because of that?
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Doubt it very much-IR rules are strict and probably don't apply to EX wives !!!!! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-08 10:54:31
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Oct 8 2005, 04:37 AM)
Willie Osborne was "Big Sugar" a centre forward in the battering ram style! Many of Sugars attempts on goal were better suited to Murrayfield but he was a bit of a fans favourite. As a kid I used to go doon tae the docks opposite Cappielow to fill a crisp poke wae sugar and I never did get worms like my mammy always said I would. I also used to climb over the lorries parked doon there at the weekend. It was great going doon tae cappielow and getting some man tae punt ye over until one midweek game when I asked for a punt and yer man looked at me and said " I think you should gie me a punt son!" I think I was 13 or 14 and that was my last ever punt. Having a pint in a pub in London about five years ago I got talking tae a wee Rod Stewart lookalike went by the name of Willie Woods said he played in the team at the same time as Big Sugar but I couldnae place him, does anybody remember him and what was he like?
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I remember 'Sugar' well- he played quite a number of games at centre forward, and was big, bustling, and as strong as an ox. Contrary to what some are suggesting, he could beat men in the box, but often more because of pure power and momentum than skill!

He didn't hit penalties as hard as a guy called John McTurk-anyone recall him?

If there was a Willie Woods in the team at that time I don't remember him at all.
mortonjag 2005-10-08 11:04:21 I'll share one of my oldest and in some ways saddest memories.

When I was at primary school in the Port, I use to love watching the horses pull the flat trailers loaded with sheet steel down Argyle Street from the railway siding, and across the main road into Lithgow's yard.

What's even sadder is, I'm still in my fifties-how things have changed! sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-08 17:46:30
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 8 2005, 02:59 PM)
Might as well start one.

It's looking like a fairly attacking formation, even with the exclusion of Quashie.
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It's the old story-Kenny Miller had three good chances in the second half, WE cleared one off THEIR line, we were unlucky with the break of the ball.

We COULD have won 3-1 with a bit of luck, and everybody would be singing Walter's praises, but instead it'll be heads down again!!! mad.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-08 17:51:42
QUOTE(thedonn @ Oct 8 2005, 12:13 AM)
happy days back then but i always thought jim kiernan was a good defender as well as strachan or are my memories clouded,
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As I recall Kiernan was your traditional centre half-he wasn't bad, and quite good in the air.
Hugh Strachan was a good tackler and a wee bit creative at times, but he lacked pace.
mortonjag 2005-10-08 17:59:38
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Oct 8 2005, 01:55 PM)
Statistically, according to the British Motor insurers federation, you are less likely to have an accident the older you get until you reach 60.  Then the graph starts to rise again but you are still likely to be a safer driver at 70 that you are at 18-25.

Thats why insurance premiums get cheaper as you get older.  I presently drive a 7 series BMW and it costs me around £360 fully comp per annum, £150 excess.  I wonder how much that premium would be for a 21 year old?

So older drivers may be a bit slower, but they are less likely to kill themselves and other people.
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Tonsilitis, you're getting ripped off-what engine's in it-I recently had to renew my insurance for my Jag, and couldn't believe the difference it makes going on line and trying just everybody before you accept a quote.
mortonjag 2005-10-08 18:07:07
QUOTE(axeman @ Oct 8 2005, 06:02 PM)
He picked the wrong team from the start. Both Quashie & Webster should have started.

It was ridiculous that he didn't use his other 2 subs. Ferguson should have been subbed without doubt, but of course he's got to play up to the Press, couldn't have him taking off their beloved Barry.

Walter Smith can't blame anybody else today, this was his chance & he blew it big style. I mean that was Belarus' first away win in 10 years. mad.gif
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Now we know why you call yourself 'Axeman', no doubt you're a HR specialist-geezabrek! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-09 09:19:29
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Oct 8 2005, 10:28 AM)
Whilst Grumpytits is learning tae drive, I have discovered that to pass the main driving test you have to make an examinr feel you are totaly in full control of the vehicle and make him and other road users (drivers & pedestrians alike) fell safe.
I dont know how some peaple can pass this test when you see how SLOW they travel, surly they must give elderly and woman drivers preferential treatment.

As for the theory test the hazard perseption, you need bloody well good eyesight and reflex actions none of which elderly have.
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If this is a serious question, and not a wind up, Bawheid, surely you must accept that the pupose of the driving test is to ensure that people can use their cars SAFELY-that's why so many of those frustrating folks have licences. Sure - they drive me crazy at times, or I can laugh if I'm not in a hurry myself, but the truth is that most accidents ARE caused by 'fastards', and sadly the vast majority are young and relatively inexperienced.

And a second point, you only need adequate eyesight, and average reflexes to drive safely-it's just that we have too many little Alonsos on our roads. wink.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-09 09:35:37
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Oct 6 2005, 12:41 AM)
Wtf?

I apparently live just off Garscube Road, in Scarymill  laugh.gif
Yankees + Geography = Danger!
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I, and they've put me SMACK in the middle of Possil
mortonjag 2005-10-09 09:38:35
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Oct 9 2005, 09:35 AM)
I, and they've put me SMACK in the middle of Possil
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For 'I' read 'Aye', and anyway, we can both walk to the match on Saturday! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-09 11:06:41
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Oct 9 2005, 10:37 AM)
I thought you lived in the ghettos of Partick??

Another social climber.

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ArklesTON, contrary to your assertions, I certainly am no social climber-yes I DO have a Jag-YES- with a private plate-NO-not a Mickey Mouse one bought from the DVLA for a couple of hundred quid- but I lived in Partick until last year, and compared to the Arkleston area it's a paradise, and doesn't have a sewage works and the 'Midden's' park within vomiting distance.

Get the chip off your shoulder man-Maryhill and Possil people are the salt of the earth-it's only a minority that gives them a bad reputation-can you not see wee were only poking fun at this daft Yankee website?!!! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-09 11:23:04
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Oct 9 2005, 10:22 AM)
The original Tescos was in Westburn Street roughly where Mothercare is now.

First Italian Restaurant was Aldos.  That was followed by a place called L'Arlechinno
further along West Blackhall St, roughly across the road from Burger King

Cinemas were

The Gaumont (formerly the Palace) on Brougham St opposite the container terminal (where the brown coloured flasts are now)
The Odeon (previously the Kings theatre) It stood on what is now the car park for our defunct Rover dealer.
The Regal was where Burger King is now.  Did anyone else go to the minors there on a Saturday morning when they showed cartoons, Flash Gordon and usually a cowboy movie?
The BB Cinema on West Stewart St - Now a nightclub and carpet showroom
La Scala at the West Station
The Pavillion (across from Townhall beside the gardens redeveloped as the library and shops) as pointed out by Davie had actually closed by 63/64  as had the Ranch.

I thought Morton's second Dane was Kaj Johansen but an element of doubt is now in my mind about Jorn Sorensen thanks to Newton

Cragburn was the main dancehall/theatre in Gourock.
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I'm 90% sure that Jorn Sorensen came later-I don't even think he was our third Dane-but I AM relying on memory!
mortonjag 2005-10-10 07:26:25
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Oct 9 2005, 12:09 PM)
Ahem, I honestly thought with a name like 'Mortonjag' you were implying that you were a half-morton/half-thistle fan a la 'MortonBhoy' etc.  My apologies, I never made any connection with Jaguars, especially ones with private plates which incidently was not a cheap one from the DVLA website, but one that you were fleeced a fortune for.  tongue.gif 

Out of interest, What the f*** has your number plate got to do with it anyway??  laugh.gif

Also, I'm deeply amused that you think a place like Partick is Paradise.  I know Partick like the back of my hand, and its just like Govan with a few more shops and lots of Student bedsits; or Cessnock without a 'multi-cultural' problem; whilst pretending to be 'The Trendy West End'.  Paradise my arse.  Incidentally, where did you find Paradise over there?  The Rosevale?? Memories?? The Dowanhill?? The Clyde Valley??  Or was it a trendy west end bar where you and your number plate could strut your stuff and move those shoulderpads to Heaven 17 all night??  tongue.gif

Also,
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These places make even the skankiest parts of Paisley seem respectable.  I wouldnt let a stray rotweiller with rabies live there, it would be cruel.  You remind me of one of those old women from 'chewing the fat' going on about the "Oooooh, Gallus Glasgow Banter".  You and your number plate should get a grip of yourself. tongue.gif

Also,

The sewage farm is in Paisley near the Airport, my new house in Renfrew about 2miles away, which is similar to the distance between Partick and the Shieldhall sewage farm at Govan.  Neither are noticable. 
Arkleston is not Beverley hills, but its a nice quiet area, i'm happy with it and it beats the arse off anywhere ive lived in Glasgow.

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So glad you're happy there, and I know Paisley well. Where you live, I suspect, is the nice new estate off Renfrew Road.

Most people think of Partick as the central area, along Dumbarton Road, which as you suggest is littered with pubs, but seriously, arklesTON, if you go up Peel Street past the cricket ground (site of the first Scotland v England soccer international), or up Gardner Stree to Partickhill, you are in an extremely nice area of Glasgow which also has a wee bit of character and history, unlike your Newting Mearnses and Millen Gavies!
mortonjag 2005-10-11 06:38:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 10 2005, 07:03 PM)
Hi Teacher Tom,

That takes me back to 1964.

My stepmother had a shop in Inverkip Street, between the hospital and the road to Walkers refinery.

There was a cafe near the corner and I think Doig's Coach office.

Anyway, in the cafe, one could buy a single fag.

It put me off fags for life.

and we'll ignore the double entendre.
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That's right-in those days you could go into many a cafe, under age, and ask for a threepenny single. I recall
mortonjag 2005-10-12 08:57:43 I saw this thread when it started, and I'm gobsmacked to see that 45 good folks have lowered themselves by voting!

It's great having the poll facility on the forum if it's used sensibly, but this is just daft! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-12 09:08:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 11 2005, 10:06 PM)
Capstan Full Strength, 3d each,circa 1965, when I was circa 14
feck - 3d each for a Capstan Full Strength

and just 2d each for a Ton goal in 1963/64

wasn't it 6d for kids at Cappielow in those days.

it was 1/6 into the stand
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Dairy milk 6d, Mars Bar 4d, crisps 3d (4d for Smiths with the wee blue salt packet)-and HERE'S one-does anybody remember picking rose hips-we use to get 3d a pound when we handed in our harvest to the local sweetie shop.
mortonjag 2005-10-12 09:16:51
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Oct 11 2005, 10:09 PM)
but ask yersel................................is it compulsary after all washin yer haunz after a shlte aint
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Depends who's done it Bawheid!

Talking of murder, I'm not usually an 'eye for eye and tooth for tooth' man but when I think of a certain Mr Scott and what he almost did to us, is murder enough? sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-12 09:30:05 In my opinion, Ian, it's not really a question of whether or not Jim's good enough, it's more (as you say) that we're in Div. 2

He's come on in leaps and bounds and is super fit, but he still lacks the finish at times.

The boy is still nineteen, and if he continues to progress, AND we get promotion, who knows-maybe next year.
mortonjag 2005-10-12 09:40:17
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 12 2005, 09:29 AM)
Was it not 4/- for the stand?  I remember used to get squeezed through the turnstiles 2 for the price of 1 if you were wee enough.  When I got a season ticket in 1966-67, cost £3 (adult was £6) and that included all games including cup matches.  I think it may have included the European game against Chelsea too but I may be wrong on that.All sweets were 6d or 3d.  Chocolate bars were 6d, so were Mars bars.  I remember the shock horror when the price went up to 7d.  Made it awkward cos when it was 6d you never saw coppers in your change.
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But in those days they at least they had the decency to increase the price instead of subtly??? decreasing the size!

Cadbury's creme eggs (never as good as the old Duncan's fondant ones which came in two halves for 3d), are an example-when they came out, you could make one last for a bit-now they're diminutive!

Can anybody remember when flavoured crisps started-I think it was about 1960-I remember beef was one of the first-and looking back tasted pretty naff, but it was novel.
mortonjag 2005-10-12 09:46:16 Have just read this thread again-we'd better watch guys, or we'll be seeing a new book at Scapa, priced 20 quid and entitled "Morton - Great Memories"

Plagiarism-the sincerest form of flattery-or just plain cheating! blink.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-12 09:49:25
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 12 2005, 09:39 AM)
If you're good enough, you're good enough.
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Unless you play in the SPL-then even if you're not good enough, you get seen!!!!! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-12 09:52:07
QUOTE(gmfc_rossco_1874 @ Oct 12 2005, 09:46 AM)
Iain Fyfe !
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Give poor Mr Fyfe a break-after all, he's already blind AND brain dead!
mortonjag 2005-10-12 09:59:18 When I first saw the new tiled entrance to the stand at Scapa, I thought it looked really attractive, and I still do, but wondered how soon it would be before somebody went on his arse on a wet day.

I went to the reserve match the other night, and because there were only a few folk around, I was able to watch people making their way in-and those tiles definitely are a hazard when it's been raining.

Maybe Dougie should do something about it before somebody breaks a leg and sues the club
mortonjag 2005-10-12 10:31:20
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Oct 12 2005, 10:17 AM)
Talking of prices, I passed my driving test in 1966 and went to the garage to put petrol in the car.  I put 4 gallons in and had change from a £1.  The petrol was either 4/8p  or 4/10p, can't just remember.

What did you pass your test in.  Me - it was my dad's Ford Corsair.  It was pretty average sort of car for the day - it was never out of the garage for cylinder head gaskets.  It leaked when it rained and if you took it through one of Greenock's new car washes - I think the first was at Patrick Street but it might have been Regent St. - you got a shower also.  I thought I was the bees knees driving that car but looking back you realise just how bad cars were made in those days and what the manufacturers got away with.

I bought my own first car, a Hillman Imp and amongst the extras you had to specifiy for that was a heater!  Its incredible to think that a car manufacturered for British customers did not have a heater in the standard spec.  Talk about cheap.  The screenwasher was a wee rubber bulb on the end of the dashboard which you squeezed like a water pistol.
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Oh the memories-the Hillman Imp-that wee scoosher bulb-an indicator stalk that was so flimsy it almost broke off at every corner-water pump problems- a 'move me and see where I go' gearchange-and I think- worse than the Ford for warped heads and blocks with that light alloy engine.

I remember I always used to take the tranny with me 'cos it had no radio!

But the back seat was just big enough for a wee cuddle, and it kept the rain out!
mortonjag 2005-10-12 10:43:58 The official site is, IMO, very disappointing and user unfriendly.
It's an attractive presentation, but flatters to deceive.

What's the point in having columns for the chairman and manager, when all you get is 'old hat', or quotes from match programmes-and those daft 'drop down menus' drive me crazy- and just a thought, we don't even get a report of matches-just 'statistics' which most have already seen in the papers.

I love all things Morton, and I think the forum is great, but it's the official site that outsiders will access, and I think it should be improved.
mortonjag 2005-10-12 10:54:46
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 12 2005, 10:43 AM)
First car I drove was an Austin 1100 (a slightly bigger version of a Mini in essence)when I was 15, in a car park at Aviemore (1967).  I then learnt in a Hillman Imp when I was 17, and the driving school car was a Triumph Herald (renowned for a 25' turning circle, less than a black cab I think!).  The Imp was rear engined and the engine was a development of a Cooper Climax engine which was used in racing cars - originally used to power a pump on fire engines I believe.  Car had an overhead camshaft which was rare in those days and was in fact a very avant garde design, sophisticated engine compared to the Mini's old A-series iron lump - it's just that good design needs to be able to stand a dose of bad workmanship, and our friends up the road in Linwood weren't terribly conscientious about putting them together.  I remember the throttle cable used to break regularly, because it flexed where it was attached to the throttle quadrant on the carburettor (I bet a lot of you don't even recognise those words...) and I once drove down from Renfrew with the throttle wedged part open with a plastic ruler, turning the ignition on and off to control my speed - no steering locks in those days.  The Imp had an opening rear window, precursor of the harchback, but it was useless because you had to lift stuff over the back end where the engine was.  That windscreen washer was laughable, would have been better p1ssing on the screen (which you could do to de-ice it, the warmth and the salt in urine you see...).

The difference in cars nowadays is unbelievable.  In those days it wasn't unknown for cars to be rusted out in 4 years in some cases.  Vauxhalls and Fords were particularly bad, and crudely engineered with live axles and leaf springs, and anything Italian in the 70s and early 80s arrived off the ship with rust already half way through the panels - anyone remember the Lancia Beta?  Used to have to get the car serviced every 3,000 miles and grease nipples on some cars lubricated every 1000 miles.
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Gosh Alibi-I forgot about that throttle cable! Mine broke at the pedal connection on an icy New Years'day when I was on my way to a lunch with my future in-laws.

I had on the old 'tin flute' etc., and didn't want to get too messy, but I managed a temporary repair. Only problem was that it was a bit shorter than before and the engine was 'ticking over' at about 2000 rpm-very f*cking embarassing but got there with lots of clutch work and a big red face.

As you say, the Imp was a good concept, but the poor wee bugger never even lasted long enough to get all his problems sorted!
mortonjag 2005-10-12 11:12:07 I've got to say this game scares me-the Jags have come good lately, and I was impressed by their reserves on Monday night.

One thing's for sure it should be a great atmosphere, and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see over 5000 there.

Prediction: a low scoring game-hate to say it but probably 1-1.
mortonjag 2005-10-12 11:25:54
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 12 2005, 11:14 AM)
I think the official site has been vastly improved in recent months and is looking quite good, both visually and content-wise.
All you've done in your post is criticise what is there.  What would you add to the website to make it better?
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Did you READ what I said?!!

It is attractive, and the menu is potentially great-it's content that's lacking-I take the point about accessing videos etc., but on a day to day basis I'm looking for input. I think it's daft having columns for the manager and chairman which they don't use, and I'll say again IMO the format is very user unfriendly.

Just had a thought-some of you guys never seem to come up with any original constructive criticism, yet as soon as one of us does, you're straight at our throats-bloody knee-jerkers! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-12 11:38:30
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 12 2005, 11:34 AM)
I think it looks pretty terrible, frankly.  But it works well.

Now, name me something else that looks awful but works well....  Yes, I thought that would be the first thing you thought of.
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Stop boasting Alibi-and remember, the beauty is in the eye of the (be)holder! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-12 11:46:11
QUOTE(ian clinging @ Oct 12 2005, 11:38 AM)
If Simon Lappin has the requisite ability to get into the Scotland set up Jim certainly has. Bit unfair to criticise Jim on his finishing touch, he's a right footed player playing on the left. Would do a lot better on the right
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I agree with that-he is pretty right footed, and when I first saw him with the reserves a couple of seasons ago he was playing right midfield and looked comfortable there-trouble seems to be that there's not a place for him on the right-or so it would appear-any thoughts?
mortonjag 2005-10-12 11:51:01
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 12 2005, 11:43 AM)
Right, ok.  Fair point, but what content would you add to make the website better?
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Post match comment from the manager, regular updates from the chairman, match reports, and player interviews all spring to mind-anything to make the site more interesting and drum up more support for the TON!
mortonjag 2005-10-12 11:57:54
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 12 2005, 11:32 AM)
The cable on my mother's car broke (about the tenth time) the day before my driving test - looked like I was going to have to use my father's Hillman Minx which seemed huge to me - had never driven it before.  Fortunately the garage (Lang's garage in Union St, right opposite where I lived, now been replace with flats) managed to get it repaired with an hour to spare.

I used to drive an old VW Beetle occasionally when I was a delivery driver for Loudon & Crawford (where Rico's is now) - it had a washer bottle pressurised by the spare tyre.  If you used the washer too much, you ended up with a flat spare.  When my Transit was out of action (frequently!) I had to deliver using the beetle and a trailer.  Used to get an assistant on those occasions, whose job was to guard the goods when I was delivering up the Gibby.  Quite an eye-opener for a West Ender like me.
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The memories keep flooding back. My girlfriend's Mum use to let her use her car when we went out. It was an old Ford Prefect with THREE forward gears, no synchro on first, and the windscreen wipers were operated by a vacuum system from the inlet manifold. They were very erratic and always seemed to slow down when you most needed them.
mortonjag 2005-10-12 12:10:27 I'll never forget the day the young French 'mamselle' arrived.

I think it was a swap system with one of our young teachers going over there for a year, and vice versa.

Anyhow, word was on the Monday morning that she was absolutely gorgeous, and all us wee adolescent boys were desperate to get a gander at her.

She turned up in the dinner hall after morning classes, and the news spread like wildfire.

When the poor soul emerged after her mince and tatties, the adjacent playground was absolutely crammed with barely post pubertal boys, and she had to be escorted out of a side gate, down the street and in through the main school entrance.

And YES she WAS gorgeous!!! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-12 12:37:14
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Oct 12 2005, 12:31 PM)
You think we should drop Finlayson?  wink.gif
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Trumpton-f*ck off! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-12 12:41:11
QUOTE(no soap in greenock @ Oct 12 2005, 12:28 PM)
Good shout  dry.gif
PM me and it could be arranged  laugh.gif
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Nice picture of the Midden's back four-"no soap" !!!!! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-12 12:45:31
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Oct 12 2005, 12:39 PM)
I think Glasgow City Cooncil are still chasing me for council tax despite numerous phone calls and two letters from uni explaining that I'm a sponging student and thus exempt. Total pain in the arse  mad.gif 
Income tax is another joke. I got paid 20 quid for a shift I did before Christmas, Inland Revenue took 5 quid  ohmy.gif  and I've still not got it back, despite filling in thooosands of forms (I'm probably personally responsible for the destruction of a large chunk of the rainforest)
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Aye re-introduce the good old myxomatosis into beaurocracy and decimate the self perpetuating nuisance.
mortonjag 2005-10-12 12:48:01
QUOTE(no soap in greenock @ Oct 12 2005, 12:43 PM)
laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

But they still kept a clean sheet agianst you last time  tongue.gif
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AND HamilTON? !!! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-12 12:52:48
QUOTE(se56an @ Oct 12 2005, 12:17 PM)
This thread is getting too old for me..

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Well it IS for old codgers se56an, and reading between the lines you've still to hit the big 50! blink.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-12 13:09:23
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 12 2005, 01:01 PM)
Here, less of the old codgers!!  We still know the old mantras, like "second hole down from the back of the neck...."  Life doesn't end at 50, in fact it gets better.  And you appreciate it more.
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Couldn't agree more Alibi-I was only referring to the title of the thread!

You certainly do appreciate it more, and I think you become more conscious of the wee things that matter!
mortonjag 2005-10-12 13:12:01
QUOTE(no soap in greenock @ Oct 12 2005, 01:05 PM)
Yes we let 3 goals in against the real TON  wink.gif
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Any TON that beats the Midden'll do.
By the way I'm just keeping this going because your defence really turns me on! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-12 13:29:51
QUOTE(Vialli_No7 @ Oct 12 2005, 11:11 AM)
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz sleep.gif

It's fine!!!

- infact its a great wee site with  smashing videos and all the info you could need. It's only web nerds that really care what it "looks like"
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Vialli, I wondered if I had been inaccurate, so I just checked.

There's not even a record of the reserves result on Monday night.

The Managers last comments, as distinct from programme transcripts, were in the Spring.

Douglas Rae hasn't stuck his neb in since July.

It's maybe got all the info YOU want but does that make me a "nerd"-I think you're the

Not
Even
Remotely
Discriminating

Cheers!!! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-12 13:33:54
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Oct 12 2005, 01:24 PM)
I think theres a strong case to switch McAllister and Finlayson.
Finlayson has shown his final ball into the box is nothing great and looks better cutting inside.
GIve McAllister a shot on the right and see how his final ball looks.
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M4RKO be careful, you're treading on Holy ground!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-12 13:54:34
QUOTE(Vialli_No7 @ Oct 12 2005, 01:50 PM)
OMG!! ohmy.gif  No reserve result??  Why didnt you say??

Thats shocking - how will I sleep.?

Jeeez!  rolleyes.gif

How did you get on supporting the team before we had a web site? it must have been tough.  blink.gif
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Grow up son. An 'Official' web site that purports to list reserve results and still hasn't done it two days later is not up to steam, and well you know it!! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-12 14:11:16
QUOTE(no soap in greenock @ Oct 12 2005, 02:09 PM)
This one's for your pleasure  wink.gif
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And much appreciated-Ta and to "F*ck the OF" -Cheers!!
mortonjag 2005-10-12 14:19:50
QUOTE(Vialli_No7 @ Oct 12 2005, 01:58 PM)
A snappy comeback if ever there was one  rolleyes.gif

Sorry if I've offended, but I simply dont care if the web site is a bit late.
In my opinion, a 1st class web site is simply not important for me or for the club.
Your OLD-Timer, Non web friendly
Fellow Ton fan smile.gif
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"Grow up" was in response to your childish jibe Vialli-you started off defending the web site and suggesting it has everything you could want-now you're stating your true feelings,viz. you don't really care.

That's fine by me, but I DO care about the TON's reputation-the site is good but IMO needs improved. wink.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-12 14:30:22
QUOTE(Tonto @ Oct 12 2005, 12:00 PM)
We've got 3 away games on the next 3 Saturdays (if my calculations are correct).
Due to a combination of wife/weans/dosh I have to give one of them the bodyswerve. mad.gif

What one do I miss???  My brain is melting with the pressure! What is the general consensus. If you had to miss one of these, what one would it be... sad.gif

Plastic Whistle
Wraith Rovers
Greetna
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Don't like the idea of missing any games Tonto-no way would I miss the Gretna one. If I were you I'd go to Firhill which will be the cheapest all-in cost, and Gretna, and give the Kircaldy match a miss. At the moment, Thistle are shaping up better than Raith, and they have a bigger fanbase.
mortonjag 2005-10-12 14:40:02
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 12 2005, 02:35 PM)
Well, the bar at the top of the Burj Al Arab in Dubai is about 25 storeys up...  But the windows don't open.
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How do you know-did you try to get in when you were pissed?!! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-12 14:48:04
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 12 2005, 02:43 PM)
I couldn't afford to get pissed - cost me £35 for three drinks, 2 of which were non-alcoholic.  Mind you, got about £50 worth of olives and wee nibbles thrown in, didn't need to eat for a week afterwards.  And the 20 trips up and down in the express lift which runs outside the building were pretty good too - kept going up and down on it (1200 feet in about ten seconds) till we were thrown out the hotel.
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But not from the bar I assume, or is Clark Kent your real name-c'mon you've blown it ALIBI!!!
mortonjag 2005-10-12 14:52:28
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 12 2005, 02:38 PM)
Wee?  Speak for yourself....  smile.gif
And Iain, once in a lifetime maybe, but at the time we didn't realise that.
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I WAS Alibi-but you're obviously a car man-remember the Clio ad?
mortonjag 2005-10-12 16:29:52
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Oct 11 2005, 10:18 AM)
If recent Hogmanay's (and indeed the long-term weather forecast) are anything to go by then it will be postponed.

It's a better idea holding a game on Hogmanay than New Years Day when there is no public transport, but as we have another away game on the 2nd January maybe they should look to move the Hogmanay one.
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Aye, and if last season's anything to go on, it'll be postponed half an hour before the kick-off!
mortonjag 2005-10-12 17:40:21
QUOTE(Tonto @ Oct 12 2005, 03:42 PM)
It's starting to look like Raith could be deprived of my custom, if I remember right it's the journey from hell into the bargain ( and a hellhole when you get there).
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The journey is a bit of a pest, especially after you get over the bridge, but the stadium's not actually that bad.

Although Gretna's a fair distance, if the M74's not too busy, it's much more relaxing.
mortonjag 2005-10-14 09:27:34 Provided Douglas Rae is willing to keep shelling out (and able) for another couple of years, there is absolutely no reason, on paper, why we shouldn't be in the SPL in two seasons.

It's what happens after that that concerns me-with good housekeeping, and reasonable results we could remain self sufficient-we definitely have the fanbase- but if we're too adventurous financially, there's a good chance we'll just flop back down.
mortonjag 2005-10-14 09:34:35 I'm certain there must be a couple of bus services that run up Hope Street, out through Cowcaddens, and up Maryhill Road. The problem with getting the subway is that you have a walk at both ends, so if you're lazy, contact SPT !!
mortonjag 2005-10-14 09:45:16
QUOTE(Jackie @ Oct 13 2005, 10:12 PM) [snapback]43334[/snapback]

Is it just me or does anyone else think that these are going to get out of hand with every thread becomming a five star one laugh.gif ?

I realise I'm leaving myself totally open to a one star attack here however.

Jackie, I think we now have enough users on the forum to make those statistically worthwhile by voting with a wee bit of discrimination-at least on threads that run to a page or two.
mortonjag 2005-10-14 09:56:51 I guess most of you have heard of Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD)

Although this is a well accepted clinical entity at its extreme, I suspect that most, if not all of us are neurochemically affected by UV light or its absence.

I have noticed over the past few days that I've been a bit down for no particular reason, but today the sun has got his hat on and I feel on top of the world.

Are we all SAD B's at Scapa! sad.gif sorry biggrin.gif !!!
mortonjag 2005-10-14 15:40:58 I've got to agree with Donga-how does anyone think we're GRADUALLY going to make it without somebody like Douglas Rae. OK we get better crowds than the East Fifes, Brechins, and Stranraers of this world, but Dougie is still baling us out at the moment, and he's not getting any younger.

I know we've struggled to get up to the first, but this year we are stronger in every way, and if it wasn't for this ridiculous play-off situation, you would already say we look like promotion.

Once, and assuming, we get into division 1 next season, we'll need to make further financial gambles if we're going to achieve SPL status, and let's not be too pessimistic, we've walked this road before with at least some success.
mortonjag 2005-10-14 15:59:40
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 14 2005, 03:42 PM) [snapback]43523[/snapback]

Yes, I've got mine thank you..... smile.gif

So they have been printed and should be at Cappielow soon if not already.

Well done Alibi-would you like to let us into the secret-did you bite Mr Mileson's ear.

GMFC.net club news has been silent for 12 full days-are they deid or sumfin!!
mortonjag 2005-10-14 16:06:24 3 wee ladies heading for the bingo, and discussing whom they'd most like to be.
The first suggested the Queen, giving her reasons, and the second said she envied Victoria Beckham.

The third we lady beckoned to her newspaper, and said 'Ah'd like tae be hur-Sahara Pippalini'

Her friends were confused 'til she showed them the headline.































SAHARA PIPELINE LAID BY 3000 MEN IN TWO WEEKS




mortonjag 2005-10-14 16:37:16 If you guys get the subway to Kelvin Hall and turn right when you get out, there are five or six good pubs between there and Partick subway-I personally like the Ettrick
mortonjag 2005-10-14 21:32:54
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 14 2005, 08:27 PM) [snapback]43603[/snapback]

I'm doing a wee job for the club and I asked them if they could keep me 2 tickets to save me from having to get them from Cappielow. Delivered to my office by one of their staff.

Suspected it! Poor Del Collins-relegated from the Ton lottery to delivering your tickets!! sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-14 21:38:36
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I want it back sad.gif

Yes, I got used to it too, and am not awful fond of the new options, though I suppose after a few days, I'll never notice.
mortonjag 2005-10-15 08:04:44
QUOTE(dazza @ Oct 14 2005, 10:41 PM) [snapback]43631[/snapback]

Chelsea v Bolton Chelsea to win @ 1.25 Open
Juventus v Messina Juventus to win @ 1.16 Open
Wigan v Newcastle Newcastle to Win @ 2.50 Open
Dep La Coruna V Barcelona Barcelona to Win @ 2.10 Open
Man City v West Ham Man City to win @ 1.90 Open
St Johnstone v Brechin St Johnstone to win @ 1.50 Open
Dundee v Stranraer Dundee to win @ 1.53 Open
Peterhead v Gretna Gretna to Win @ 1.57 Open
3 quid on gets you £ 156 back , Accumulator

Peterhead won't lie down to that lot- I think it's one of the best draw bets on the coupon today.

I'd take that, Stenny v Berwick, and probably ourselves and Partick and bet the three draws, and at least you'd get some odds.
mortonjag 2005-10-15 08:34:04
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Gidday mortonjag,

We have a Subway down the road.

What can I get you that will still be OK after a couple of days in a 747 ? ?

Evening NewTon-thanks for the offer, but if you get caught smuggling suspicious packages on board, you might be forced underground, Digger! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-15 08:42:46 I remember when Dean Keenan and Jason Walker were both sporting what could only have been described as Skunk hairstyles! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-15 08:51:49 Just thought I'd have a wee bit of mischief while most of you still seem to be in your pits.

I'm sure it'll be a tight, and tough game today, and I just pray we win by the odd goal.

I fancy a Vialli header from a Kevin Finlayson cross!!! blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-15 09:37:15
QUOTE(Inver_Ton @ Oct 15 2005, 09:21 AM) [snapback]43701[/snapback]

So does that mean that dave mcgurn will score from a corner then blink.gif class ! tongue.gif

Na, a vialli goal would be nice !

Anyone clarify where abouts the noth stand is? Is it the one opposite where the players come out or is it the new one behind the goal? mellow.gif

Cheers

As you go out of town up Firhill St. and past the main entrance, you are heading NW, so I guess if there's a new stand behind the goals it'll be up the top-if that makes sense.
mortonjag 2005-10-15 09:41:05
QUOTE(GreatKingRat @ Oct 15 2005, 09:35 AM) [snapback]43702[/snapback]

Lets be honest though, Subway tastes like crap and their service is s***e.

Aye, and I bet you and NewTon are just dying for a hot Auld's Special!!! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-15 10:00:57
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 15 2005, 09:46 AM) [snapback]43706[/snapback]

you might be forced underground,

Gidday mortonjag,

That will be the day.

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Just give me your address and I will go out to KSA and give the Sub of your choice to an unsuspecting Sassenach backpacker on her way back to Heathrow.

mortonjag, if she's a good sort, I will ask her to give it to you personally.

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Just finished breakfast NewTon, but I guess I could still get into a nice bit of tart-long as it's not a Yorkshire pudding!!

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mortonjag 2005-10-15 11:37:11
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Oct 15 2005, 11:24 AM) [snapback]43753[/snapback]

I'm surprised you got served in the Ettrick with that number plate of yours.

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What ETR 1C and you think they wouldn't serve me-c'mon man!!! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-15 11:45:53
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Tart-long....that a thailand special or something? ohmy.gif

Definitely SOMETHING-sounds more like Gordon Strachan's latest acquisition from Papua New Guinea-or somewhere equally remote!
mortonjag 2005-10-16 09:26:06 Let's face it guys, we were very poor against the Jags, especially in the first half, and Dick Campbell got his tactics just right.

Yesterday I was angry, disappointed, and making excuses, but remember how we have played this season-e.g. against the Skunks, who are now undisputed top of division 1

We're NOT perfect but we are a very, very good second division side, and the only thing that really lacks is getting that ball in the net.

I've been saying all season that Spoonsy should be playing up front, and hopefully now they'll restore him to his rightful position.
mortonjag 2005-10-16 09:46:11 For me the biggest disappointment was against Dumbarton and that so called Ref.

We lost two invaluable points there, and had we not, we could still potentially be ahead of Gretna IF we beat them at Raydale.

Tonsilitis is right, big Santala had Greacen and Harding all over the place yesterday, and sorry, but if we had swapped Lilley for him yesterday, we would have won.

We need goals, that's all, and I've said elsewhere Spoonsy is wasted (and in my opinion not essential) in defence.

I do admire Jim McInally, but think he gets bogged down with the idea that as long as you contain other teams, and keep playing football, the goals will come-WRONG Jim-you need somebody to stick them in the net, and so far nobody's been doing it.

And BEFORE the Vialli admirers start slating me, I've always rated big Derek, but he's going through a bad patch, and we just can't afford that luxury right now..
mortonjag 2005-10-16 09:53:56
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 16 2005, 02:55 AM) [snapback]43991[/snapback]

1. Men like to barbecue. Men will cook if danger is involved.

2. Men who have pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought jewellry.

3. Men are very confident people. My husband is so confident that when he watches sport on television, he thinks that if he concentrates he can help his team. If the team is in trouble, he coaches the players from our living room, and if they're really in trouble, I have to get off the phone in case they call him.

4. Men like phones with lots of buttons. It makes them feel important.

5. Men love to be the first to read the newspaper in the morning. Not being the first is upsetting to their psyches.

6. All men are afraid of eyelash curlers. I sleep with one under my pillow, instead of a gun.

7. A good place to meet a man is at the dry cleaners. These men usually have jobs and bathe.

8. All men hate to hear "We need to talk about our relationship." These seven words strike fear in the heart of even General Schwartzkopf.

9. Men are sensitive in strange ways If a man has built a fire and the last log does not burn, he will take it personally.

10. Men have an easier time buying bathing suits.

Women have two types: depressing and more depressing.

Men have two types: nerdy and not nerdy.
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Sorry Newton but this is kind of heavy for a Sunday morning, and anyway the real difference is just to do with willies and the lack thereof IMO !!! huh.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-16 09:58:32
QUOTE(Rossi @ Oct 15 2005, 08:30 AM) [snapback]43693[/snapback]

There are some really bad hair styles on display at our football stadiums at the moment. We've had the mullets and the perms. But Derek Riordan's hair style, it can only be described as a dead squirrel on his head has got to take the biscuit.

Rossi

After yesterday's game I thought of Gerry Britton's hair, and our team performance-lack lustre and sloppy-much in need of attention!
mortonjag 2005-10-16 10:02:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 15 2005, 03:12 PM) [snapback]43779[/snapback]

from Papua New Guinea-or somewhere equally remote!

somewhere equally remote? ? ?

it's just up the road
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Yes I know NewTon-my dad was stationed there during the war, and spent leave time in Oz
mortonjag 2005-10-16 11:25:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 16 2005, 10:10 AM) [snapback]44008[/snapback]

the real difference is just to do with willies and the lack thereof IMO !!!

to do with willies

Gidday mortonjag,

and how many do you have ? ?
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One more than you I suspect (not much to talk about I admit), but at yesterday's game the Jags gave me them in abundance!! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-16 11:34:08
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Oct 16 2005, 11:23 AM) [snapback]44063[/snapback]

Sorry but settling for the play-offs is a defeatest attitude from the word GO

I would rather we finished mid table if we were out the championship race as we just arn't good enough and who says we'll win that or will you be HAPPY coming in second in that also. I personaly think they would just come back down if they were to succeed at the play-off stages.

Bawheid you're definitely OTT on this one.

I agree entirely that the Jags are looking very strong, and their reserves gubbed us comfortably-I wouldn't be surprised if they won.

Dick Campbell has more experience than Jim McInally and Rowan Alexander put together- BUT

Don't put the TON down man- we beat Gretna in the cup, and we morally destroyed the Midden. We have in our squad enough strength to win this s***ty league and get back where we belong in the higher echelons of Scottish football.

I relly DO feel that at the moment it's an issue of tactics and team selection, rather than effort, but Jim is learning his trade, and I think we'll be in there at the death.
mortonjag 2005-10-16 11:47:53 Football is about goals-and we're not getting them-I've lost count of the number of times inviting balls have gone into the box this season, only to be missed by everybody-you need someone in that box with a bit of self belief and good poaching ability, and we haven't got that right now.

I know wee Alex blotted his copybook with us, but we need that kind of sharpness- or a big guy like Santala who'll always take two defenders with him, and still knock them in when the chance comes.

We have to make the best of it up front-I'd definitely play Spoonsy up, give Andy mainly right wing duties, linking with Chris Millar, and play Kev Finlayson much deeper in place of Spoonsy.

Don't know about the left-McAllister is really good on his game and can be quite incisive, but it would be nice to get decent crosses over from that side too.
mortonjag 2005-10-16 11:57:05
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Oct 16 2005, 11:45 AM) [snapback]44081[/snapback]

Morton Jag....................time fur yer injection me thinks.

I am NOT putting Morton down

As for being succesfull against the midden

Not in recognised cup or league compititions do we manage a result against them

Take the recent game when we LOST on penalties
The last time before that the Midden gave us a 2 goal start only for Morton to fold in on themseves handing the Midden the tie.

another Ex player whom we signed to apease the fans saw his career come tae an abrupt end...............

I am giving an honest oppinion, I can only hope I am wrong then I will have to chew my words.

I've been though all this before all too often, like most supporters of my generation we can write the script.

no doubt you are some 3rd yr old lad still waiting patiantly fur yer testicul tae drop so as to get rid oh yer sqeeky vioce blink.gif ohmy.gif mellow.gif biggrin.gif laugh.gif

Sorry Bawheid-the way you're talking it sounds as though yours have dropped off already-I well remember the Hal Stewart days, when the Cappielow Cavaliers could take on anybody, and gave the Old Firm quite a few shocks-and that's what Dougie Rae remembers too.

You've just got your nose in a poke because we got humped yesterday, but if, as you say, you seen it all before, you know fine this is what happens in the beautiful game.

Next week we'll probably play out of our skins against Raith, and gub them 3-0, and you'll have a wee smile back on yer baldy face! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-16 12:05:03
QUOTE(ian clinging @ Oct 16 2005, 11:44 AM) [snapback]44079[/snapback]

Mcinally is a decent young manager. There are, however, a few things that have to be sorted.

1. Tactics: McInally appears to lack a bit of tactical nous. He has been repeatedly out foxed by the likes of Campbell. He resolutely sticks to a system that consistently falls apart when it encounters a well organised team.

2. Motivation: Can he motivate the players? Thistle players seemed up fot it yesterday. We weren't.

3. Players: Ryan Harding cannot play on the left side of a back three. He's a decent player but he's lost out there. Jim McAllister, our left wing back does not have a left foot. There is still a lack of left sided players in the team. We can't keep simply ignoring this.

4. Derek Lilley. I was a big fan of Derek but yesterday he was woeful. I don't really care who replaces him but something has to be done soon. Heard he is carrying an injury, why not give him time to go away and get fit.

I agree with most of what you say-Jim has been great in terms of discipline and fitness (which is presumably down to coaching youngsters at yon' place), but I also see him as a wee bit naive and unimaginative, when it comes to team selection and tactics. Having said that, we ARE second top of the division, and there's a long time to go.

As far as motivation is concerned I disagree-were you at Love St. the other night!
mortonjag 2005-10-16 17:42:23 And if I'm not mistaken, a point of note for the programme is that big Templeman hails from the 'lang toon'.
mortonjag 2005-10-16 17:46:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 16 2005, 02:50 PM) [snapback]44109[/snapback]

at yesterday's game the Jags gave me them in abundance!!

feck - am I confused ? ? ?

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Well I was speaking metaphorically, NewTon, but they certainly humped our boys 'rid raw'. !!! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-16 18:00:02 I know that all of you 'give a guy a bad name' grumps will hate me for this, but we should never have let Alex Williams go.

All he needed IMO, was a bit of man management and encouragement-McInally himself said he had no complaints about his 'on the pitch' effforts, and he's so sharp in the box.

The other point, which most folks are coming round to, is that we need Spoonsy up front. I know he's been brilliant in defence, but he is still a natural goalscorer, so what the hell is he played out of position for when we desperately need goals?

To be honest, the way Greacen and Harding (both of whom I DO admire) played yesterday, I'm surprised people aren't calling for the signing of a tall, commanding, AND EXPERIENCED centre half.
mortonjag 2005-10-16 18:13:53 Everybody seems to be having a go at our forwards-I think the boys are ALL doing their best, and for Templeman and Lilley, it just isn't coming good, but what the hell are Greacen and Harding doing at training-yesterday they fell over each other repeatedly like a pair of wee schoolboys both chasing the same ball-one look at big Santala, and they were s***ting themselves-and what embarrasses me most is that individually they are both bloody good players! mad.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-17 08:50:44 From where we were sitting we could see that free being taken from almost the same angle as Davie McGurn-the big guy was completely unsighted as it was hit, and the power did the rest, and we also had a good view of the 'penalty'-I think it was at least a good shout if not a stonewaller.
mortonjag 2005-10-17 08:58:05
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 17 2005, 01:18 AM) [snapback]44311[/snapback]

Don't give a f*** if nobody agrees but Chris and Jim are the weak links in the side at the moment so;

______________________McGurn_________________________

Weatherson________Greacen____Harding__________McGgegor(shudder)

Finlayson_________Walker_______McLaughlin________McLaren

_________________Walker______Templeman________________

had a few beers so my opinion may change.... tongue.gif

LargsTON, as MidTON has said, everybody is entitled to his opinion.

The trouble is mate, that you are also judged on it.

I accept you may have 'had a few beers' when you spouted, but as the old Latin phrase 'In vino veritas' reminds us, your true feelings come out when you're pished. Y

You clearly can't see talent when it's staring you in the face. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-17 09:05:13 I'm getting fed up with folks saying we can't move Peter forward BECAUSE we need him in defence-IMO we DON'T-I'm not saying that anyone else would maybe do his current job just as well, but we have competent replacements.

To take up an earlier point-yes Peter's form did dip very badly, but don't forget when we were running away with this division two years ago Weatherson (AND Williams) were knocking them in for fun.

We desperately need sharpness and confidence in the box right now, and Spoonsy's got both in abundance.
mortonjag 2005-10-17 09:29:10
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 17 2005, 02:00 AM) [snapback]44321[/snapback]

Get into him, Boozehound, don't be shy.

He's a soapy tit wank.

LargsTON, can I state categorically that I HAVE NEVER IN A SINGLE THREAD SUGGESTED KEVIN SHOULD BE DROPPED.

I did that in capitals mate as you obviously are as short sighted with text as you are in assessing players.

You are clearly young, immature, self opinionated, and not very logical-I don't know you mate (thankfully), but I'm sure any of your pals would secretly agree with me.

What do you really imagine the other forum users think of a guy who calls McAllister and Millar 'PISH', and who can't see beyond Alex Williams' bad boy image to a very talented young player. tongue.gif biggrin.gif tongue.gif

QUOTE(Phil Ochs @ Oct 16 2005, 10:43 PM) [snapback]44268[/snapback]

Excellent thread. As someone said the match at Love Street highlighted our failings in this area. The three present strikers have five between them in nine league matches, which is pathetic considering the amount of chances we are creating. They also seem to have very little ability to play others in. Like Jason at Firhill. Twice a simple pass or cross would have resulted in goals but both times the final ball was woeful, to say the least. Lilley is just rank at present and Templeman too slow. Would David Graham leave Gretna for first team football?? Surely Weatherson must start up front on Saturday. With maybe McLaren and Millar supporting from midfield. If we can get the attack sorted then the rest will fall into place.

One other point, Saturday was a off day - let's not get carried away on a doom and gloom trip. Thistle put us under pressure from the start by playing three up against our three defenders. It worked a treat as we panicked every time the ball was played near our box.

Couldn't agree more with your comments-particularly your perception of our Achilles' heel-not scoring-doesn't matter if they score four as long as we get five.
mortonjag 2005-10-17 09:46:10 Couldn't agree more-and I'm another 'oldie'.

Remember the days of the Cappielow bugler when we got behind THE TEAM instead of needing an away support to stimulate our passion.

I'm extremely disappointed in our fans. Although they've been immense in some of the 'big' games-New Bayview/Stranraer/Love St. come to mind- when we are playing poorly at Scapa against 'minnows' and really need support, the Cowshed often goes strangely silent.

I also deprecate personal attacks on players-every one is doing his best and we don't have a real 'Dud' in the squad'

Individual form (take Vialli at present) will always come and go, but it can't help the boys when they're 'slagged off' by idiots who couldn't fill their shoes, and can hide behind the anonymity of a web site. mad.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-17 09:57:43
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 17 2005, 02:06 AM) [snapback]44322[/snapback]

Beginning to wonder that myself.

You self opinionated, and obviously 'jumped up' brats really are 'getting on my tits'.

What makes you think the players really need 2000 fans before they'll perform.

They're professional sportsmen playing for their pride, AND a win bonus-are you suggesting that if we had had 5000 at Firhill we would have won!!!!

It was just a dreadful 'off-day' when we got our tactics wrong, and nothing came good for us guys, so get real and move on.

If we beat Raith next week, you'll all be pishing your nappies in excitement. cool.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-17 10:17:39
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Oct 17 2005, 08:46 AM) [snapback]44343[/snapback]

The summer is my least favourite season - the long hot summer days which lead to crowds and hyperactive people fill me with dread, whereas the short, quiet winter days are much more hassle-free. But I always was a bit odd. blink.gif

Do you actually dislike the sunshine, or is it the total package.

I was out in the car yesterday, driving down a tree lined avenue-it was quite cold outside but the sun was brilliant, and I commented to my passenger that those are probably the most pleasant days in the year-and I just adore the sunshine on snow.

I think there's some scientific evidence to suggest that UV light has a positive effect on 'antidepressant' neurochemicals, and SAD syndrome can certainly be treated with 'light boxes'.
mortonjag 2005-10-17 10:28:53
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Oct 17 2005, 10:14 AM) [snapback]44357[/snapback]

Like you two remember the days of the bugler but I can't remember a time when the team got unconditional support from the Cowshed. Like it or not Morton fans have always been quick to dish out abuse if they feel someone is not pulling their weight.

While I do not agree that singling out players for pelters serves the team in any way I am not surprised that certain fans vent their frustration in this way.

Face it we have a decent team that is capable of playing good football but appears to be totally unable to stand up to the big challenges. This season Partick and Gretna both showed up when we didn't. Last season it was Brechin, the season before Airdrie and Hamilton. Our record against those team who are challenging us for the top spot is nothing short of appalling in the games that really matter.

The time for players to show some backbone and character is long overdue.

TaunTon, I think that's a wee bit unfair.

We beat Gretna at home in the cup and showed great spirit in doing it.

We beat Brechin away this season in the cup, and very well last season in the league.

We completely 'gubbed' Airdrie at New Broomfield.

Hamilton, I agree, were a bogey (but very good) team.

Form comes and goes as you know-we were very poor against Partick and Dick Campbell certainly exploited our weaknesses, but to suggest that the team lacks backbone and character is IMO a wee bit OTT!



mortonjag 2005-10-17 10:35:49
QUOTE(strongbad @ Oct 17 2005, 10:26 AM) [snapback]44363[/snapback]

yesterday was amazing! the sun really brought out the best in everyone I met. there was a really nice atmosphere at the beach I was at.

speaking of natural antidepressants etc I heard Omega 3 fish oil is good for ye olde s.a.d. but then I havn't actually looked into it. I went to boots yesterday and the stuff was everywhere. selling like hot cakes... or even fish oil.

I think it was on horizon or something a few weeks ago about the stuff. anyone see it?

Omega 3 has long been used for its beneficial effects on blood lipids/cholesterol, but I hadn't heard of it being used to treat SAD.

Mind you, even when I was a wee boy my Mum told me that eating fish was good for your brain.

Possibly explains the frantic activities of salmon in the spawning season!
mortonjag 2005-10-17 10:47:21
QUOTE(BasraTon @ Oct 17 2005, 10:21 AM) [snapback]44360[/snapback]

We only have one decent player to come off the bench if its going tits up, but how can anyone add John Adam, he is one of the weakest links we have at the club and is never up for any game. blink.gif

BasraTon, you're falling into the trap like so many others of just 'slagging off' players.

I admit, John Adam has been a bit of a disappointment so far, but the boy definitely has talent. I watched him against Partick reserves, and he was one of the best players on the pitch IMO.

He's still young and a bit slow to mature, but hopefully he'll come good.

I watched Joe Jordan when he played for the TON and he was, frankly, PISH!
mortonjag 2005-10-17 10:56:57
QUOTE(midTONs @ Oct 17 2005, 10:20 AM) [snapback]44359[/snapback]

cheers, any chance of dropping your drawers and giving me a swatch at your fanny
Point being here is that you would think that when 2000 fans travel to watch a 2nd division side away from home in a league match they would bust a gut to impress, imo I didn't see much evidence of that on Saturday.
I agree with that but again from I saw on Saturday there was very little evidence of it and we will never know if another 3000 Morton fans would have been enough to spur them on.
Move on, I moved on at 4.45 on Saturday, but although I except the result I cannot help wondering why can only perform every now and again, maybe Saturday was not an off day maybe we an only perform against teams like St Mirren
I have 3 kids off nappies and I doubt my youngest daughters size 4 pampers would fit me but your right about the excitement.
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midTON, please accept my apologies, but what is a mature guy like you doing getting embroiled in the emotive tripe those others were spouting-the simple point I was trying to make is that just because a team plays badly, it doesn't mean they're not trying.

We played Raith at home earlier in the season as you recall, and we made them LOOK very poor. Partick did the same to us on Saturday-and by the way mate-I just checked-no chance of seeing that fanny-the baws have shrunk a lot, and the willie's awfy wrinkly, but they're still there-I THINK!!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-17 11:01:02
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Oct 17 2005, 10:58 AM) [snapback]44373[/snapback]

I agree with Oompa loompa and Donga, some of you guys should take less drink before you go to the game, then you might see it in a different light.
Chris Millar has come back onto his game and was one of our better players on saturday. Young McAllister had an off day or came up against a better defence than he is used to.
If you want to look for individuals, half our team would quallify, Harding Greacen, Andy Walker, Lillie and Templeman, and oh how I wish we could have some variation on the corners and crosses, instead of the lob to the back post EVERY time, lets have some fired in with a bit of pace.

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Aye foobs in the back of the net!
mortonjag 2005-10-17 11:04:52
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Oct 17 2005, 10:25 AM) [snapback]44362[/snapback]

Peter for midfield!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He is our best all-rounder.....he can pass, tackle, head, shoot and dribble!!!! That's what you want in a midfielder!!! Only stumbling block is stamina, I have no idea whether he could last 90mins in the centre beside Alex Walker.

Interesting-just feel our midfield has been one of our stronger points, and we do desperately need goals, but sure, anything that gives Spoonsy more time in the opposition's half would be a move in the right direction.
mortonjag 2005-10-17 11:08:55
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 17 2005, 01:29 AM) [snapback]44315[/snapback]

Nothing to do with bottle, Ballhead.

We're just a better than average second division side who were out fought on the day.

LargsTON who "has been saying we'll end up second from the beginning of the season" spouts another illogicality-get off the beers man. biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-17 11:15:00
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 17 2005, 01:39 AM) [snapback]44318[/snapback]

Life threatening?
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Absolutely-spontaneous unconsciousness resulting from trauma-why do the Refs have to stop the game immediately if they suspect a head injury-a football hit hard from close range could potentally kill, and I wouldn't be surprised to hear of documented cases of actual fatalities.
mortonjag 2005-10-17 11:19:29
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Oct 17 2005, 11:12 AM) [snapback]44379[/snapback]

It's the total package more than the sun itself. I think, as you mentioned, that the sun during the autumn/winter (a day like yesterday) is really beautiful. It's more the crowds, the tourists and the overall hyperactivity of people during the summer sunny season that does my tits in.

I also get a bit annoyed at the general assumption of people, especially weather forecasters, that everyone loves it when it's hot and sunny - that day we had in July, which was the hottest day in Scotland for years, was horrible - difficult to get comfortable and near impossible to sleep at night.

Another reason I prefer the winter is that it's easier to warm up when it's really cold outside than it is to keep cool when it's really hot.

I totally agree, it's the sunshine that turns me on, not the heat, and I can't understand why anyone wants to lie in relative discomfort just to get a tan.
mortonjag 2005-10-17 11:28:15
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Oct 17 2005, 11:17 AM) [snapback]44381[/snapback]

Again, typical Hun attitude from a typical Hun ( I bet he was one of the fist to leave on Saturday as well)

If Morton losing a few games means we get rid rid of pseudo fans like this Hun then Ill take a another defeat with gladness.

Some of the negative crap seen of this board over the weekend is shocking with Bawbag being amongst the worst culprit

We had a bad one on Saturday, it happens, but what is being forgotten is that we has many pass marks as well. McGurn, Adam, Weatherson, Millar and Mclaren were all outstanding. Thistle bullied us off the ball too easily, but were not a better side and played littel football on the ground, their time wasting tactics were all they had to offer in the second half. Morton had at least four excellent chances to score ( millars, Weathersons two and Adam's header) Mclaren ripped the pish out their left back all second half. McGurn pulled off a world class save in the first and had NOTHING to do all second. All they had was the time wasting it went from manager down to the ball balls and was a disgrace and an embarrassment to football.

After watching that lot, I'm glad we don't have to put up with that week in week out. Morton are by far the better team and will finish 10 points clear of Thistle.

As for the negative remarks of Bawbrain- I hope he takes his attitude back to Govan where it will be appreciated as HIS TEAM languish 4th or 5th in the league

Super Nanny, I'm one of the poor mugs who has just read yours, and full marks for sticking up for the TON-but we really were MUGGED on Saturday.

Sure McGurn had little to do in the second half-Dick Campbell wasn't interested in more goals, and some of their tactics were frustrating, but that's football.

By the way, are you by any chance a Mother Superior?!!!!! cool.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-17 11:42:14
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 17 2005, 11:34 AM) [snapback]44388[/snapback]

Adam? As in John Adam? I was there and didn't see him play. I was in the pub for quite a while but wasn't that drunk......

Naw Davie, yer ok mate, it was somebody else but she didn't know him from Adam! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-17 12:00:23
QUOTE(midTONs @ Oct 17 2005, 11:32 AM) [snapback]44387[/snapback]

mortonjag I'm not one for individual attacks on players I never do it on here or at the games, I agree we played badly on Saturday and I won't dwell on it, imo it has been coming for a while now and I hope the players learn from it.
All I did was agree with muz that the players should be embarrassed with their performance on Saturday they must know they can play better and why they cannot raise there game when there's nearly 2000 fans following them away from home for a league match is beyond me, ok I accept we all have off days, but we have been having more than our fair share lately and being getting off the hook.

As for you not having that fanny I feel I must apologise as I was certain you were female, if you had big enough tits for me to get on then you would be more of a woman than Jordon laugh.gif

Apology accepted midTON-actually I've also just checked my tits and I'm beginning to wonder about those shrinking baws, and the wrinkly willie-is this just my age or am I becummin a wummin?!! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-17 12:05:15
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 17 2005, 11:50 AM) [snapback]44397[/snapback]

The fact I saw them putting up the christmas lights in Goerge Sqaure last week would be the reason I am down mad.gif

Don't start me about Christmas Puggsy-I love the DAY-but the commercialisation by people who dont give a f*ck about Christianity, and who would start it off in June if they got half a chance, just make me want to vomit. mad.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-17 12:14:26
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Oct 17 2005, 11:55 AM) [snapback]44402[/snapback]

garbage. ive never been particularly happy at seeing him in defence. being a good footballer he can do a job there, but he will never be as good in defence as a decent defender. Likewise, having him there is a waste of a dangerous striker, he will never be as good a player for us in defence as he can be playing up front.

quite simply, McGregor is back in the picture, we are struggling to put the ball in the net, it is time to return peter to his rightful place(and i dont mean word up!)

Spot on IMO-I've been saying for ages that playing Peter as a defender has been a 'sacred cow' for the manager.

Sure he's been superb, but the truth is that people still know he's a forward at heart, so they are more impressed than they would be otherwise.

The sad thing is that he has NOT been used to full advantage-hopefully things are about to change.

David McGregor was shaping up nicely before his injury, and on form would add stability to the defence, which has been shaky at times lately.
mortonjag 2005-10-17 15:42:21 I don't agree at all with those of you who are knocking Harding. He's another of our young players on a learning curve, and in some games he's been excellent. He can read the situation well, is usually quite cool, and his distribution is excellent.

Unfortunately, he and Stuart Greacen just don't seem to have got it sorted out at the moment-it was so obvious on Saturday-and I'm just wondering if an option would be to play David McGregor in a sweeper role, as a lot of the problems seem to have come from the other two realising they were the last line of defence, tending to panic, and going for the ball instead of man-marking.
mortonjag 2005-10-17 15:59:23
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 17 2005, 03:44 PM) [snapback]44499[/snapback]

You're just arguing for the sake of it now.

Au contraire LargsTON, and don't forget we ARE talking about disabled people-not only can they be less able to shield themselves from the force of a fierce shot, as suggested quite correctly earlier, but they suffer from a whole range of neurological disorders which make them more vulnerable to trauma.
mortonjag 2005-10-17 16:06:12
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 17 2005, 03:52 PM) [snapback]44505[/snapback]

Like you with Finlayson?

Oh i forgot, you throw in a wee comment at the end saying he's a "valuable squad player."

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LargsTON-you really won't let this go and I'm getting pissed of with your immaturity.

I'm not the only person who has stated the blatantly obvious about Finlayson-that he's no good up the right wing-other than that I've done nothing but praise the guy. Re-read my posts if you like. If you call that 'slagging off' you don't understand the term.

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mortonjag 2005-10-17 16:08:55
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 17 2005, 03:49 PM) [snapback]44501[/snapback]

I'm a bit old for nappies but you must be reaching the incontinence age.

That performance on Saturday wasn't deserving of the support it received on the day.

You're making some amazing assumptions on people you've never met, Pops.

Sounds like the truth's hurting son! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-17 16:17:10
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 17 2005, 04:13 PM) [snapback]44519[/snapback]

Water off a duck's back...

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Insult to ducks!!! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-17 16:40:36 So we play the 'Blue Brazil' away, and if we beat them we have Ayr away-what joy-and a real money spinner too!!!

Mixu's lot are doing well and will really raise their game for us, and though we can hopefully survive that, we then have to deal with Robert Connors's lot at Somerset Park-sure as fate if we do get beyond those two we'll get another unfashionable club.

To be frank I'd much rather get a big gate against a SPL club ASAP-if we won-great-but at least we could take the money and get on with league business.
mortonjag 2005-10-17 19:44:11
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Oct 17 2005, 07:06 PM) [snapback]44602[/snapback]

Derek Lilley is a proven goalscorer at all levels of football including the Premiership.

You have to ask why he does not score for us and the answer has to be in relation to the service he gets. It has been stated in other threads that the only service we ever seem to play is via the wings and whilst getting in behind the defence and delivering a good cross works, so to does going through the middle. It would be nice to see Lilley get some balls to run onto.

For that matter, it would also be good to see Templeman get the ball to his feet around the edge of the box where he can be deadly.

Cone on Jim, lets see you work the team on that.

Come back John Maisano-all is forgiven!!!

I agree with you-when Lilley was much younger and with us before he used to run at defences with a lot of success, but now he's always looking for a quick one-two in the box, or as you say, a decent through ball, and they just aren't coming-that allied to the dreadful quality of our crosses (apart from the occasional one from Andy) means Vialli is going through a lean spell-but there's no way IMO, that he's over the hill as some suggest.
mortonjag 2005-10-17 20:49:51 I can understand both sides of this argument, but the truth is that in Scotland we have a tradition of producing quality broadsheet newspapers in the cities, whose balance of regional/national news is IMO pretty good, yet I doubt if many Londoners look at the Herald (for example) for the same reason as we find the BBC news a tad wearing, viz. it does focus on its main readership area.
mortonjag 2005-10-17 21:18:20
QUOTE(stubaws @ Oct 17 2005, 09:06 PM) [snapback]44644[/snapback]

posted the exact same thing on another thread last week, need to give the long high balls a rest.

im sure harding will get dropped for mcgregor this weekend, would also like to see finlayson dropped for mclaughlan with millar pushed back out wide. liked millar in midfield in the last few weeks but i think its blatantly obvious that finlayson has been the weakest player in the team for a while now and this needs to be addressed. think scott would offer a lot more in terms of passing (ie he can!!!) and think he deserves a shot back in the team

I certainly agree that Scott deserves a 90 minute run-as you say he's always looking for the opportunity to make a telling pass, and he is capable of that.

I think Finlayson is so versatile, he could easily play at no 3, with Spoonsy moving forward, either into midfield, or right up front.

Harding has had a couple of bad games, but I wouldn't drop him, as I suspect it's been a blip, and he's quite classy when on-form.
mortonjag 2005-10-18 07:07:07
QUOTE(midTONs @ Oct 17 2005, 10:47 PM) [snapback]44672[/snapback]

John should be given given nothing less than 100% respect from the Morton fans before and after any meetings between us and any team he plays for. This guy has Morton at heart and will always support us, he was gutted to leave the club but not bitter, he was not everyones cup of tea but he did give everything he had for the club.

Yes MidTONs, I agree entirely, AND, IMO, John on form was more productive than any of our current midfielders, and at one point he and wee toerag were ripping opposition defences apart-haven't some people got short memories! sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-18 07:17:12
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 18 2005, 01:13 AM) [snapback]44710[/snapback]

May as well call a spade a spade.

Plus, i've always said Temps would finish top scorer this season.

Look back and check, i dare you.

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Morning LargsTON-see you were late to bed, and hope you didn't have too many beers-sorry for giving you a hard time yesterday-it must be the hormones!

Just want to stick my neck out and predict that at the end of the season our top scorer will be---























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mortonjag 2005-10-18 14:35:38
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Oct 18 2005, 09:53 AM) [snapback]44738[/snapback]

would not drop Findlayson, one of our better players on saturday.
Would drop Andy Walker and play Mclauglin.
drop temps play Jason.
Drop harding for Mcgreggor.

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I wouldn't drop Kev either, but would be really interested to see if he and Spoonsy could swop positions, as its Kevin's final touches that always seem to let him down-and as everybody's saying we desperately need goals.
mortonjag 2005-10-18 14:40:07
QUOTE(midTONs @ Oct 18 2005, 09:43 AM) [snapback]44736[/snapback]

Donga we are a full time 2nd division side and apparently one of the top sides in the league. Yes we had a bad day, NO, in fact we had YET ANOTHER bad day, that result has been coming for weeks. We have ridden our luck so far this season when it comes to results, but the honest truth of it is the players have had more bad days than good days.

As I see it we WERE BAD on Saturday MidTONs, but we've not been having many of those days.

What's been happening far too often is that we've actually played pretty well and shot ourselves in the foot by failing to capitalise with goals.
mortonjag 2005-10-18 15:30:06
QUOTE(notrom @ Oct 18 2005, 03:18 PM) [snapback]44813[/snapback]

What the hell was the point of posting in the first place then? mellow.gif
For what it's worth, I have to say I agree about Millar, I'm not entirely sure how much he really offers that McLaughlin couldn't match, let alone better. Last season I would have agreed about McAllister, but he's been immense this season and to call him a "weak link" is ludicrous. That said though, it wouldn't do any harm to rest him the odd game if possible, he is only 19 after all.

I wouldn't argue with your prediction that young McLaughlin could prove productive for us-he was coming on well at the end of last season, and isn't scared to move forward and have a go.

Chris Millar seems to be one of those players whom people either like or disapprove of. I rate him very highly, and over the last couple of seasons he's popped up with goals just when we needed them. I accept that his final distribution is sometimes lacking, but remember he's still very young too.
mortonjag 2005-10-18 15:43:55 Slightly offbeat, and dated but when I was in my teens we started a band called the 'Four Skint Jews'.

Needless to say, we remained skint, and before anybody gets in with it-NO WE DIDN'T WEAR PULLOVERS! dry.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-18 15:56:11 [quote name='Capuan' date='Oct 17 2005, 11:46 PM' post='44683']
Here's an interesting fact. - Did you know criminals are more likely to plead guilty in court during the winter than any other season.
Mon the TON
It certainly is Capuan-but you don't add any reasons.

I doubt very much if it's anything to do with the guys wanting a quicker journey to the big warm hoose.

Maybe the Cops are more diligent in the charges they make, or the folk in the fiscal's office aren't daydreaming about what to do in the sun when they knock off, or-

Much more likely the data are a CON, as those type of statistics usually are!!! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-18 16:03:19
QUOTE(strongbad @ Oct 18 2005, 03:50 PM) [snapback]44836[/snapback]

are you still jews?

Yid not believe it Strongbad-we never were-but it seemed funny at the time.

Guess you wouldn't get away with it now.

I'm not in any way anti semitic though-one of my sons has had a Jewish partner now for five or six years, and they've got a lovely wee boy called Alexander ('wee Eck')-as my son, I regret to admit, is a HUN, and Alexander's got a mop of ginger hair!!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-18 16:18:12
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Oct 18 2005, 03:56 PM) [snapback]44843[/snapback]

Partick Thistle were in the First Division last year, the SPL before that, and are a good, well organised side with some very effective loan signings.

We had a wee dose of reality on Sat, that's all I think mate. I think we needed it actually, cos we did struggle to kill off Peterhead and were ultimately lucky against them, and for all our wonderful footy against St Mirren in the cup we still could not score.

It's a boot up the hole and I'm very impressed with McInally's extraordinarily honest comments in the press after the match and confident he can do something about this.

Still very confident, and behind a team of players I know can do this.

A wee dose of reality indeed.

We were all angry when Rowan Alexander said central defence was our weak point-but obviously Dick Campbell was listening, and big Santala scared the s*** out of Harding and Greacen so much, that they just looked silly, when in fact they are both good players.

McInally's going to have to look at the way the defence is organised if we are going to prevent this happening again.

And the second spoonful of that wee dose-if you don't turn outfied play into goals, you would be as well staying in watching TV.
mortonjag 2005-10-18 16:24:07
QUOTE(strongbad @ Oct 18 2005, 04:21 PM) [snapback]44852[/snapback]

you couldnt make it up! laugh.gif

so "four skint jews" was some sort of circumsission joke? or was it a reference to thier shrewd financial reputation? or both??

Well Jews certainly didn't have foreskins, and they were generally perceived to be financially successful, so it was a kind of double negative that seemed funny to wee teenage boys!
mortonjag 2005-10-18 16:29:25 I think you've hit the nail on the head-we're super fit, work our balls off, and can make other teams look poor, but when it comes down to it, apart from Andy's contributions, we totally lack creativity, and are as predictable as being skint after Christmas!!!
mortonjag 2005-10-18 18:01:55
QUOTE(BasraTon @ Oct 18 2005, 05:32 PM) [snapback]44887[/snapback]

A pint wid dae damn fine, whits all this about a China sub laugh.gif

Is it no that guy that sits on the bench at Cletic Crap ?
mortonjag 2005-10-18 18:41:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 18 2005, 06:32 PM) [snapback]44898[/snapback]

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

that's it.

I am now convinced that following the Ton has addled all our brains.

As my father would say ...

If you've seen one Chinese sub, you've seen them all.

They all look alike to me.

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if I sent you a pint, it may be flat and/or warm before it gets to the Port.

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Those were the days when you could get off with that sort of politically incorrect stuff.

Now you MUST respect the dignity, privacy, sexual orientation, and individuality of all Chinese subs, even when they still all look the same!
mortonjag 2005-10-18 18:46:21 This thread seems to have died a death with only 41 votes, and if that's statistically significant Spoonsy's getting moved forward.

Sounds like good sense to me, but c'mon guys make it more convincing one way or another by voting. huh.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-18 18:53:46
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Oct 18 2005, 05:04 PM) [snapback]44871[/snapback]

On the contrary, I believe it has a lot of relevance, particularly in the back of the minds of some of our younger, more inexperienced players whose first time that was at Firhill, a big ground with a big support.

Very relevant.

Donga, I don't really think your point is valid, after the sterling performance we put up against the Midden in similar circumstances-truth is the heads only went down after Partick's goals-then I DO believe the strength of the Thistle support may have disheartened the guys, but I don't think they were 'fazed' at all at the kick-off, and if our defence had been better organised, things could have been so different.
mortonjag 2005-10-18 19:04:40 Threads are getting boring so how about a wee bit of controversy.

Forgetting WHY those guys were released, and only going on their potential for creating and scoring goals, would they get a place in the team now.

I have absolutely no hesitation in saying 'Yes'.

On form, wee Alex is as sharp as a razor in the box, something sadly lacking at present, and John can not only create, but also score some excellent goals.
mortonjag 2005-10-18 19:11:33 Two replies so far, but no explanations-c'mon guys-this just sounds personal to me! mad.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-18 19:13:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 18 2005, 07:11 PM) [snapback]44919[/snapback]

Maisano And Williams, Bring back the 'lost sheep'
Why ?

Is the pitch mower broken ? ?

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No-we need MOWER goals! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-18 19:16:18
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 18 2005, 07:13 PM) [snapback]44921[/snapback]

No.......Black sheep you mean tongue.gif

Any kind of sheep you like-sorry to RAM home my point of ignoring WHY they were released. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-18 19:20:38
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 18 2005, 07:16 PM) [snapback]44924[/snapback]

Only on football, John is too inconsistent and Williams couldn't score

Bryan, I agree that John was inconsistent, and that might be a reason for ruling him out, but before wee Alex' form dipped he was top scorer in this division, and he's now getting goals in the 1st.
mortonjag 2005-10-18 19:26:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 18 2005, 07:10 PM) [snapback]44917[/snapback]

even when they still all look the same!
On the other hand, Russian subs look very different.

some of them look very rusty to me.
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Indeed, 'Cuba' seems a long way off, but 'plus ca change'
just a slightly different shade of red methinks. huh.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-18 20:02:07
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Oct 18 2005, 07:49 PM) [snapback]44940[/snapback]

No - Maisano only started a couple of games for Ayr due to their injury list. He probably got selected just in front of their tea lady.

No - Williams has had too many chances already.

Seems Maisano came on as a sub last week, and not only scored but impressed.

Alex Williams is doing nicely at Clyde, and has not only scored in the last couple of games but has also been MOTM.

I guessed this would happen-and I don't blame anybody for it, but I don't really think you are REALLY assessing their ability, as distinct from their behaviour.
mortonjag 2005-10-18 20:08:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 18 2005, 08:00 PM) [snapback]44944[/snapback]

Gidday mortonjag,

old enough to remember Cuba ? ?
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Next you'll be remembering air raid drills.

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Not quite NewTon, but this might interest you.

My Dad was seconded to the Australian army when stationed in New Guinea.

I was (I am told!) conceived when he was home on leave.

He had to be de-mobbed twice-first from the Aussies, then from the REME, and by the time he got home I was four months old.

I used to love putting on his old Crocodile Dundee style army hat, and we used his kit bag for our toys!
mortonjag 2005-10-18 20:17:41
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 18 2005, 07:40 PM) [snapback]44933[/snapback]

I work n/s mate.

I'm not a raving alcoholic.

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Or paranoid? !!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-18 20:42:38
QUOTE(Doddie @ Oct 18 2005, 08:18 PM) [snapback]44957[/snapback]

Knew Williams would score goals at Clyde but if he satyed with us he would have done nothing he had to go.

As for Maisano i thought we would have kept in seeing as Paul Walker left and we should have kept one of them. Hes now at Ayr and has only 1 or 2 meaningful sub appearances.

On their day great players but that wasnt very often in the latter part of their morton careers.

No point in dwelling on past players we now have Andy and Derek Lilley, a bit of SPL experience who could still ahck it at that level. Lilley will come good and score goals for us. No Doubt.

I agree with everything except the bit about Williams. I know the guy blotted his copybook badly, but IMO that could have been sorted out during the summer, and things spelled out for him. I just feel that once he was branded 'bad news', the new management wasn't interested-well our loss appears to be Clyde's gain.
mortonjag 2005-10-19 06:40:47
QUOTE(Argyllton @ Oct 18 2005, 09:59 PM) [snapback]44997[/snapback]

Yip your right things are boring just now with this mundane s***e, please Alex and John come back and help us get into a higher league, OK Alex you go to the casino on a Friday night, we'll even chuck in £100 chips as a win bonus! John, you keep puffin' away, 200 Malboro comin' your way as a gratuity!
No way Pedro!

And yes Winston, you can have as many cigars as you like and get rotten drunk every night, and by the way pal, with you in charge we'll never win this war! mad.gif

QUOTE(AyrAndy @ Oct 18 2005, 10:26 PM) [snapback]45005[/snapback]

Very harsh on Maisano. He missed out at the start as he was suspended for the challenge cup game and for the next few games Connor kept pretty much a similar team. Connor also stated that the system he was playing required the midfield players to do a lot of tackling/grafting/tracking back something that he thought he could get more of out of other players. Maisono was due to start about 4-5 weeks ago but was injured but in the last two weeks he has come off the bench and impressed, didn't see him at Peterhead but seemingly he injected life back into the team, he certainly did on Saturday, we were struggling before he came on but he turned the game, scored an excellent goal amd might have had another couple. I would be looking for him to start on Saturday and so far his attitude at not being in the team has been excellent.

Andy-I've said it about Alex Williams with Clyde-and for Ayr -with John our loss is also your gain. It's nice to see that some management teams are able to get the best out of those guys.

QUOTE(DongaTon @ Oct 18 2005, 11:07 PM) [snapback]45010[/snapback]

I would maybe have kept John Maisano as a squad player, but both he and Williams were not good enough to get Morton out of the second division.

We have better players now.

Williams has had a good, but lucky, start at his new club. Remember, same with us - he'll soon creep back to his old ways...

John is a good player but not fit enough or consistent enough.

And I might be wrong MortonJag, but when was Alex Williams ever top scorer in this division?

I might be wrong as well Donga, but exactly two years ago, when we were running away with it, Spoonsy and Williams were the top two scorers, and I'm pretty sure Alex was ahead at least for a while.

QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 18 2005, 11:22 PM) [snapback]45017[/snapback]

They may not be, but I am. You can't have one without the other - a brilliant player who can't focus their energies is worthless. Alex, towards the end of his Morton career, sums this up perfectly. Did you see his performance against Ayr United? The penalty? Christ almighty. That was more than just an off-game. He might as well not have showed up.

John, for all his talents, was far too inconsistent and looked unfit. He seemed to only show up for the big games, and since apparently a few people in the current squad may (or may not) be guilty of this the last thing we need is another guy to extend this problem.

Plus, I find it a little galling how Alex was MOSTLY (not always, I do remember that he didn't lose his pace and was still making a few good runs) ineffectual towards the end of his time here yet has suddenly regained his form at Clye. Either he's trying harder or their style of play suits him better; no matter which of these it is it doesn't mean taking him back is going to make a lick of difference.

As for John, he's not even regularly starting for Ayr United. Enough said. I'd rather have Jerome Vareille. There's a reason he's at a lower-placed club than us and it ain't our short-sightedness.

We need to look at the squad we have and not chase rainbows with two people whose Morton career DESERVEDLY came to an end.

I understand exactly where you are coming from but I think the very fact that you and several others have got a wee bit animated simply illustrates the point.

Both of those guys were bad news, but both definitely had and STILL HAVE talent.

You'll always get the Gazzas, Ricksens, etc. of this world, and they don't respond to disciplinarian tactics, but with a bit of psychology and decent man-management you can still get a lot out of them
mortonjag 2005-10-19 07:08:24
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Oct 19 2005, 01:35 AM) [snapback]45052[/snapback]

Mortonjag - are you female?

Yes, i think you are actually, aren't you.

I don't want to be deeply sexist about this or anything, but does that have anything to do with you wanting these lost sheep back? smile.gif

Donga, if you look at the other forum, you'll see that this is the third time this week I've had to check. Sure-the baws are shrunken-the willie a mere shadow of its former self- and the boobs are getting bigger and saggier by the day, but if you guys don't give me a break Iwill need to go and get my chromosomes analysed.

The picture's of a friend, and the Monkey is my adoptive son who goes to every match with me, and speaks much wisdom too!!! smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-19 07:24:05
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Oct 19 2005, 07:10 AM) [snapback]45069[/snapback]

I see smile.gif

Why do you have a picture of your "friend" in your profile then? unsure.gif

Cos she's Monkey's mummy and he told me I was to show her off cos he's proud of her!!![attachmentid=579]
mortonjag 2005-10-19 07:29:15
QUOTE(edd @ Oct 19 2005, 01:57 AM) [snapback]45056[/snapback]

i think our usual 3-5-2 is best suited to our players:

mcgurn
weatherson greacen harding
finlayson millar mclaren walker mcallister
templeman lilley

on paper that's surely our best XI players ... we don't have a left back for a back 4 to be our ideal set-up, while we have 2 good wing-backs in finalyson and mcallister.

it didn't work against partick, but that was an exceptionally bad day, and other than that the 3-5-2 has been solid defensively. we need to score more goals, though sad.gif

Finlayson is not a good WING back as he's shown time after time, but he's a bloody good player, and when I look at your formation on paper, and see your comments about goals, it seems so obvious to swop him with Spoonsy.
mortonjag 2005-10-19 07:35:15
QUOTE(Chris Davidson @ Oct 18 2005, 11:17 PM) [snapback]45014[/snapback]

I'd say we have the same problems with corners... How many have we had in the past month (and especially against St. Mirren!!!) which have been pretty much squandered... Probably wrong, but the only recent success I recall was Bambi's header against Alloa, where he didn't even have to jump up!

That's a very good point. I can't remember if it was the second half against Peterhead, but I almost lost count of the corners we had-when we desperately needed a goal, and they were virtually all wasted-which is a shame when you've got so many guys e.g. Greacen, Harding, A Walker, Weatherson etc., all capable of nodding them in IN ADDITION TO THE SO CALLED STRIKERS.
mortonjag 2005-10-19 07:43:51
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 19 2005, 12:58 AM) [snapback]45038[/snapback]

I love "Christmas", in that the time of year is precious to me; I spend a lot of time with friends and family on cold nights getting merry. It's an excuse, basically, to delight in what the Danes call "Hygge."

Oh aye, on topic: I used to hate summer because I had really thin curtains and used to stay up until 4am, making sleeping in the daylight difficult. My own fault entirely, of course. I suppose that doesn't help much.

I'm finding the days too short at present, probably because I don't emerge from my lair until 10:30am or so. At uni last year, when I was getting up around noon (all my classes being in late afternoon), I'd quite frequently go days at a time without being outside in the daylight, leaving my room at 4pm to go to the library or 6pm to go to a training session and/or the pub. I felt fine at the time, but that was probably because my mind was on other things. Now that I actually sit down and think about it, I'd prefer a bit more daylight wink.gif

Are you enjoying your studies-make the best of them- I know a degree isn't everything those days, but it's nothing to be ashamed of either. smile.gif

QUOTE(DongaTon @ Oct 19 2005, 01:10 AM) [snapback]45046[/snapback]

I love summer and winter. I just basically love life and I'm happy that I can see, am able bodied and content.

I also love Christmas - it's a time for family, friends and fun.

I hate cynics.

Guys who say they hate cynics only make me more cynical biggrin.gif

Only joking Donga, wish more people had your attitude and the world would be a better place.

QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 19 2005, 01:12 AM) [snapback]45047[/snapback]

That's beautiful, Greg.

Unfortunately my mood's up and down like a whore's knickers.

Just like mine LargsTON-obviously we've got similar personalities, and like poles repel!!! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-19 09:19:39
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Oct 19 2005, 06:46 AM) [snapback]45067[/snapback]

I think Jim McInally has been extremely disciplined, and that's why they are not at the club any more.

I think Jim's personna exudes discipline, which is commendable, and it's up to him to do things his way-so long as he achieves.

The problem with disciplinarians is that they are frequently rather self obsessed and inflexible, and because of that they miss out on opportunities.

Frankly I think Jim wants to look at options from the squad both in planning and during matches.

Cowboy was constantly bringing on subs quite early in games-he definitely overdid it, but Jim seems very reluctant to change anything, and appears to have had the philosophy that as long as we keep plodding away, things will improve.

How often have we seen managers sacked when a team is doing badly-a new broom comes in and shakes up the squad- and suddenly results start to come.

I think almost every squad player we have, apart from the real youngsters is
capable of performing at 2nd division level, and it would be very interesting to drop three or four players and shake things up a bit, because, let's face it, we've gone stale lately.
mortonjag 2005-10-19 09:30:08
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Oct 19 2005, 08:33 AM) [snapback]45086[/snapback]

I've always thought that Millar creates nothing, he's not a good passer of the ball, his strong point is his mobility, but you'll almost never see him threading a ball through for forwards to run onto. Walker's strong point is his workrate, breaks up opponents moves, doesn't really create anything. McAllister's final ball is always his weak point, does some good running, but so much of it comes to nothing.... so basically we're left with one guy (McLaren) that can create anything, but he plays wide, so it's pretty one-dimensional stuff. We simply don't have a good passer of the ball in the middle of the park... that's why we dominate games without really hurting teams.

I agree entirely.

Having said that, I think Millar would be OK if he was allowed to play right midfield and use the wing-he does get lost in the middle, although he has produced some good finishes.

Young McAllister is playing out of position too-I'd like him to play next to Millar, with A Walker or McLaughlin on the left, Finlayson at right back, and Spoonsy playing forward along with Mclaren and either Temps or Vialli.

To be honest, the way the defence has been playing, apart from Davie McGurn, any permutation of the other three would do.
mortonjag 2005-10-19 09:46:13
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Oct 19 2005, 08:51 AM) [snapback]45088[/snapback]

Don't think the girl in question actually was a hooker in that story - it just ended up that way. laugh.gif

I have been propositioned by Glasgow hookers a couple of times (this taught me to choose a better place to park my car) but never in Greenock - does Greenock have any hookers?

AT

Aye there's a big one that stands just opposite the bottom
of Ratho St. Once got a lot of business off the boats I believe, but now she's been allowed to go to seed, and just looks a bit lost!!! huh.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-19 10:04:49
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Oct 19 2005, 09:56 AM) [snapback]45103[/snapback]

I agreed with the decision to move Peter back to defence, as the situation called for it and worked well. However I now feel the current situation calls for him to be moved up front, at least temporarilly, which is what I voted for. He is our top league scorer with 3 goals and no-one else looks that keen on getting into the box, apart from Jason who has 3 goals in 4 starts. By moving Peter up front on Saturday, it looked to me Jim McInally thought that was our best chance of scoring, so it could be worth a try from the start. Kevin Finlayson seems to do his best work around the right back area so I think he would slot in there no problem.

Absolutely DOT, Spoonsy's playing out of position, Kev's playing out of position, and IMO so are McAllister, Millar, AND Andy. He (Andy)'s also very versatile, but the youngsters can cope in midfield, and I'd have him up front making a constant threat to opposition defences alongside Spoonsy, and either Derek, Chris, or Jason.
mortonjag 2005-10-19 10:18:21
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 19 2005, 10:05 AM) [snapback]45106[/snapback]

The first thing I was told when I started my degree was to read critically. Every article on independence/'oppression' or whatever is taken as gospel. Just because it's written down doesn't mean anything. Maybe you should learn to be 'independent' first before telling everyone else to be.

What you say, Davie, is correct, but don't DISbelieve everything you read in the papers either!

I'm frankly astonished that this thread has run for so long, and it's largely because of chips on shoulders, and misunderstanding of the term 'bias'.

What's wrong with Greenockians being biased towards the TON, and what's wrong with the media being biased towards their own regions?
mortonjag 2005-10-19 18:18:08 Got my tickets at Scapa today-guy in the shop warned me that although it's called a 'stand' it's not covered-surprise surprise.

They are a lovely shade of blue but that's where it stops-I've seen classier raffle tickets, and they are eminently forgable if anybody cares to try.

Typical of Mileson, if you ask me, charging twelve quid for a makeshift stand, and skimping on the tickets as well.

Lets get down to his glorified village green and run them ragged!!! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-19 18:38:24
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Oct 19 2005, 05:50 PM) [snapback]45262[/snapback]

Does that make you female or not blink.gif
But it does make a right good night wink.gif

Super Nanny-I'm not exactly sure-I THINK I'm still male, but maybe this is a relentless metamorphotic process-anyhow at my age I must be post menopausal, so at least that's something to be grateful for!

Do you have any specialist knowledge-when will I cross the great divide?

I'm embarrassed to tell you this, but I've got into the habit of looking between my legs with a mirror every morning (at the crack of dawn) and so far I'm OK!
mortonjag 2005-10-19 19:15:33 I started that daft IQ thing and gave up after two pages singing 'So f*ckin' easy'.

Seriously I can't stand self obsessed 'knowalls' who join Mensa, and go on programmes like Mastermind, expecting us 'dumbos' to revere them.

I propose a new CSQ (Common Sense Quotient) test, and I'm sure most of them would end up with results inversely proportional to their IQ's.

Common sense, I've discovered, is extremely uncommon, especially among the self-professed intelligensia.

Monkey, I may say agrees totally.[attachmentid=580]
mortonjag 2005-10-19 19:29:46
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 19 2005, 07:22 PM) [snapback]45294[/snapback]

Its taken using all apperences. its very misleading saying Jason's got 3 in 4 starts as he score 2 of them as a sub, you have to include all games.

Which makes it statistically useless Bryan.

Surely if a guy comes on as a 'sub' mid way through the second half in five successive games and scores five goals in total, he's done far better than a team mate who's played the full five and scored only four in total.

Truth is that Jason IS a striker-I'm not saying he's brilliant, but he can stick the ball in 'the poke'.
mortonjag 2005-10-19 19:34:49
QUOTE(Julie-Anne @ Oct 19 2005, 07:29 PM) [snapback]45296[/snapback]

And are you going to tell us what this "test" involves?

Julie-Anne, if you had any common sense you could work it out for yourself, and anyhow Monkey and I are going to patent it before any of you web site interlopers steal this potential money spinner!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-19 19:45:22
QUOTE(pmsc @ Oct 18 2005, 04:51 PM) [snapback]44864[/snapback]

Every Scottish league ground old and new except New Falkirk and Elgin. Outwith Scotland Sunderland old and new Old Trafford and by the end of the Month Camp Nou Barcelona plus a few Junior Grounds and Cove last year.

Cathkin pmsc? -if the answer's yes (and it is for me) I guess your pseudonym stands for POST MORTEM SOON COMING !!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-19 19:58:06
QUOTE(Inver_Ton @ Oct 19 2005, 07:33 PM) [snapback]45299[/snapback]

6 reserve games 0 goals.

Im not saying he's rubbish, i like jason & think he is one of our only 'useful' subs. But he just isn't cutting it at the moment. He's getting chances in the games - just not scoring sad.gif

But yes, those statistic things are crap! everyone knows 67% of statistics are made up anyway wink.gif

THAT's complete crap-not EVERYONE knows-where did you get that statistic Inver Ton- I think you must have made it up, and anyhow MOST people know that 75% of statistics are fiddled, and the other 25% just complete lies.

Eat your heart out Henry Ford! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-19 20:22:52
QUOTE(forza ton @ Oct 19 2005, 08:13 PM) [snapback]45310[/snapback]

much as i dont believe in the validity of iq tests , i think the old "im not brainy but ive got more common sense than clever people" is TRULY bulls***

What you're saying forza ton, appears to be- that a man who is wise enough to appreciate that he's not 'clever', but realises he has more 'common sense' than so called 'clever' people he's met, is talking 'bulls***'.

The 'bulls***ters' IMO, are the ones who know they have high IQ's and believe that that automatically endows them with 'common sense', thereby proving that it doesn't. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-19 20:29:32
QUOTE(South Lanarkshire Jag @ Oct 19 2005, 08:22 PM) [snapback]45313[/snapback]

as a jags fan i was more than relieved when the second flew in. Thats the first McCulloch has scored from a free kick despite a few close runs

Felt Morton bottled it with their only chance been lilleys tame effort at 0-0

good away support
Thanks for your money and i hope the jags fans take as many to Cappilow

edited to add the commentator was Campbell Hughes aka Mr. PTTV

you should have heard him during our last second division campaign laugh.gif

We DID and we were at Cappielow-that guys voice would drive you to drink-and by the way-Hi SLJ, I've always gone to Firhill in recent years if I've not been able to take in a TON home or away game-guess Thistle are my second team, but mortonjag is just because I'm into cars-sorry! sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-19 20:38:06
QUOTE(South Lanarkshire Jag @ Oct 19 2005, 08:31 PM) [snapback]45317[/snapback]

over at Firhill PTFC are dedicated to improving their service

if you could add any comments i'll pass them over to the guys at Thistle so that your next visit is even better

Thanks for you time

SLJ

Please SLJ, could you ask kind Mr Campbell-you know-the one with the slightly receding hairline, if he would tell his players to go easier on our lot next time.

After all you've just had a shot at the first division, and we want one too-c'mon fair's fair

PLEEEEASE! ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-19 20:42:10
QUOTE(South Lanarkshire Jag @ Oct 19 2005, 08:36 PM) [snapback]45318[/snapback]

good to see that someone else that is a thistle fan on this forum even though it's a morton forum

i take it you sat in the North stand how was it?

A bit Spartan like most new stands those days, but seats were comfy with plenty of legroom, and view of the game was excellent.

For some reason though, we couldn't hear the tannoy from where we were sitting (3/4 way back just to right of goalmouth area).
mortonjag 2005-10-19 20:47:27
QUOTE(forza ton @ Oct 19 2005, 08:42 PM) [snapback]45322[/snapback]

common sense - the last refuge of the dolt

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Is that a statement from yourself, a quotation from someone else, or both.

If the first, can you explain, as it appears to be contradictory, if the second, he is IMO talking nonsense, and if the third, you're a no-good plagiarist!!! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-19 20:59:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 19 2005, 07:15 PM) [snapback]45291[/snapback]

Gidday Donga,

This is just a rumour, but ... I have a new business associate in Louisburgh, County Mayo.

So, when the Ton keep their winning ways, I will be buying/shouting in April or May.


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Donga, if the Ton are forced to a play off, are the 2 legs about 7 days apart ?

I don't know if Newton Street could survive 7 days of me again, especially the West End pillar boxes.
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F*cksake Newton, I know they do it big in Oz, but over here we still measure the distance between two legs in inches!!!
mortonjag 2005-10-19 21:06:37
QUOTE(South Lanarkshire Jag @ Oct 19 2005, 08:45 PM) [snapback]45324[/snapback]

i don't think there are many speakers in the North stand for tannoy (talks a lot of s***e anyway)

Did the wind come right into the stand or did it sort of fizzle out before it got there?

if you had the choice would you prefer the Main stand (to your right) or the North stand?

Wasn't conscious of much wind, although Santala certainly put it up our central defence.

The stand at Scapa is side on to the pitch, so I'd prefer the North Stand, if only for a change of perspective.
mortonjag 2005-10-19 21:19:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 19 2005, 09:09 PM) [snapback]45345[/snapback]

we still measure the distance between two legs in inches!!!

Gidday mortonjag,

Oz is play off crazy.

No major sport:

association football
Australian Rules football
rugby league football
rugby union football
cricket
basketball
netball
tiddlywinks

is decided on first past the post.

Clubs who finish the regular season as low as EIGHTH can become champions, via the play offs !!

I hate the possibility of the Ton being in a two legged play off and missing out by inches.
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NewTon if the SFA could get off with it you could miss out on promotion by a microbawhair!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-19 21:35:54
QUOTE(South Lanarkshire Jag @ Oct 19 2005, 09:30 PM) [snapback]45351[/snapback]

trust me the stand is not good

i got a cold it was that bad

whatever you do DON'T STAND AT THE BACK it's much much colder than elsewhere

By the way you can't see the goal line from the back of the stand(or indeed the front) so it's not that good

Do you think Mr Mileson cares-I know improvements are being made, but to charge 12 quid fo a Mickey Mouse stand (especially if what you say is true), is a joke.

How long did you queue to get in-last time we were down they had only one so-called turnstyle open, and they were putting our dosh into a canvas bag-took bloody ages
mortonjag 2005-10-19 21:38:20
QUOTE(South Lanarkshire Jag @ Oct 19 2005, 09:26 PM) [snapback]45350[/snapback]

when thistle visit on December 3rd will we have to stand on the terracing and probably get soaked again?

Not unless there are too many for the away support section of the stand. If you get down in time you'll be OK, though I'm not sure just how many that section holds.
mortonjag 2005-10-19 21:43:51
QUOTE(forza ton @ Oct 19 2005, 09:07 PM) [snapback]45343[/snapback]

all of the above! im sure ur a terribly clever chap but there are a lot of dafties out there who claim to have this magical "common sense" . they can offer no explanation as to what it actually means but are secure in the knowledge that even though they are thick they're more savvy about life than more intelligent people! f***ing heard it!!!! laugh.gif

I know that, but don't you agree that being intelligent is no guarantee of 'common sense', yet people who gloat over their high IQ's inevitably think they are very sensible too, when in fact some can do incredibly stupid things!
mortonjag 2005-10-19 22:02:38
QUOTE(forza ton @ Oct 19 2005, 09:52 PM) [snapback]45359[/snapback]

aye, i just think iq , intelligence etc is pretty much a lot of s***e. getting a high iq score means your good at iq tests - thats all. the very fact that u can practice them shows that its worthless pish. im only on the wind up mate . sometimes my "common sense" is pretty good , a lot of times its embarassingly wanting. i have heard a lot of , lets say , intellectually challenged people harping on about their common sense though. theres always someone smarter always someone dimmer. i reckon we're quite a smart bunch on here though. especially compared to the rabble up the road biggrin.gif

With reference to your last comment I would say that was just-----err--

COMMON SENSE!!!!!!!!! biggrin.gif

Guess their average IQ must be about-well let's not be too unkind-say minus 76!
mortonjag 2005-10-20 20:11:13
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Oct 20 2005, 11:15 AM) [snapback]45442[/snapback]

I would agree the quality of service from midfield hasn't been ideal, but neither Derek or Temps have been playing as an out and out striker. You say how many sitters have they missed, how many times have they charged into the box to get on the end of a move? Most of our reports have been of not converting our attacking play into goals so we must be creating chances.

The crossing from Andy is of the highest quality and IMO the positional sense of our forwards hasn't matched the quailty of the delivery. Weather this is down to the players or coaching I don't know, but surely the forwards can anticipate a cross coming when Andy collects the ball out wide. They don't seem to be ready for the cross.

IMO they should sort it out between them, for instance, when Andy collects the ball, get ready, one prepare to run to the near post, one to the centre and one to the far post.

Two players who could do this well are Spoonsy and Jason, who both always LOOK dangerous, whereas Derek and Temps look like auxilliary midfielders most of the time. Temps 3 goals have come from these situations so he knows what's required, he just has to do it more often. Derek just needs to be rested for a couple of games and see how he reacts. I also agree Andy looks dangerous as a striker, but he can't be everywhere.

There's also a lack of killer through balls from midfield, mainly due to our players either wanting to run and shoot, or play the simple pass out wide. The wing backs have too much running to do to create enough up front.

To try and resolve the above, I wouldn't mind seeing us experiment with the following formation:

--------------------------------McGurn-------------------------------

Finlayson--------Greacen--------------Harding----------McAllister

------------Millar-----------A.Walker------------McLaughlin----------

------------McLaren-------Weatherson--------J.Walker------------

I agree entirely DOT, and suggested this earlier, (with the option of Temps, Jason, or Vialli as the third man up front. I really think Finlayson would do a better job playing deeper. I also wondered about the possibility of trying McAllister playing next to Millar, and either McLaughlin or Walker taking the number three slot, which I think would give us more left/right balance.
mortonjag 2005-10-20 20:19:54
QUOTE(Julie-Anne @ Oct 20 2005, 07:26 PM) [snapback]45582[/snapback]

I bought a hamster today! Have wanted one for ages and I finally got one, however she wont stop sleeping, she just sleeps and sleeps and sleeps-very boring! Anyway, Ive never had a hamster before so any advice would be much appreciated!

Her name is Mary.

Julie-Anne

I wouldn't worry so long as she's happy-let's face it, little furry creatures are often reluctant to play when you most want them to.

Give her a quarter of an aspirin-she's probably got a headache-Oh and if that doesn't help, call me in the morning! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-20 20:29:27
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 20 2005, 06:44 PM) [snapback]45571[/snapback]

I said uni last year because I graduated in June. I enjoyed it very much in 3rd and 4th year, less so before that biggrin.gif

Well done! I hope you've now embarked on a satisfying career. I know it's old hat, but take the advice of an 'oldie'-money isn't everything.

One of my boys did law and works for the SCCRC. His mate in the Big Apple earns five times more, but my son deliberately chose his niche and is very happy.
mortonjag 2005-10-20 20:32:03
QUOTE(BubbaTON @ Oct 20 2005, 03:43 PM) [snapback]45519[/snapback]

simple question what would you rather be. IF YOU HAD TO BE ONE.

Sorry, I thought they were one and the same thing!! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-20 20:36:41
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Oct 20 2005, 03:00 PM) [snapback]45504[/snapback]

Put it this way, the hardest thing in football is putting the ball in the net, and Peter is a proven goalscorer. All strikers have lean spells when the goals don't come and that's all that happened to Peter. To say that he's suddenly not a striker anymore just doesn't make sense. Other team's and fans are astonished Peter's playing in defence, such is his reputation as a striker. Even in defence he's our top league goalscorer.

I played right back and if offered a game for Morton in that position when younger I'm sure I'd have given it a reasonable go. If asked to play up front I'd have been terrified of being out of my depth.

Peter can tackle, head, pass, shoot, run with the ball and has decent pace. The one position you need all of those attributes is in central midfield, and you need most of them up front. Peter's abilities are therefore not being fully utilised. I sometimes wonder if Jim plays him there to avoid selection problems, i.e. keeping the bigger name players happy.

We have players like Keenan, McGregor, Finlayson, Adam etc. who could all play right back, how many of them could play up front?

I think we should at least give it a try.

Interesting point you make about keeping others happy, and guess you may have hit the nail on the head, but if that is the case, Jim Mc is just shooting himself in the foot IMO.
mortonjag 2005-10-20 20:41:57
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Oct 20 2005, 04:39 PM) [snapback]45540[/snapback]

who cares, let them have their day in the sun ! rolleyes.gif

Brilliant-beermonkey- and if and when sugar Daddy ultimately achieves his goal, how far will the good folks of Gretna have to travel for their football?

I think the guy's a charlatan, and a muddle-headed one at that. mad.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-20 21:08:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 20 2005, 09:03 PM) [snapback]45632[/snapback]

Is there any question that Morton supporters cannot answer ?

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NO-but they're frequently wrong! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-20 21:31:26
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Oct 20 2005, 09:22 PM) [snapback]45639[/snapback]

Our midfield has been one of our stronger points? Really? blink.gif


Agreed, would like to see Peter back up front, if even only for the next game to see how things go.
The performance against Partick was abysmal, but even against St Midden we couldn't make our possession and dominance count. That has to change, and soon, if we're going to challenge this season.
[Edited cos I can't spell, as per]

Possession and dominance, Laura-because of the efforts in midfield-I didn't say though that they had been productive.
mortonjag 2005-10-20 21:37:30
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 20 2005, 08:59 PM) [snapback]45629[/snapback]

I'm doing part time database updating. Hardly the job of my dreams. I'll get something better as soon as I make a concentrated effort, though wink.gif

Don't knock anything that adds to your experience-and by the way-this site is really enjoyable-trouble is it becomes addictive at times, but thanks. smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-20 21:45:24 I've just bought a hamster-called Mary,
A sad little somnolent soul.
It's not watching the TON
That's making her yawn,
But the hash that we put in her bowl !! ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-20 22:05:45
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Oct 20 2005, 09:55 PM) [snapback]45648[/snapback]

A literary genius at work laugh.gif

Not sure if that's praise or sarcasm, but you'd better watch, 'cos 'Laura McB' lends itself to untold poetic licence!!! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-20 22:16:28
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Oct 20 2005, 10:10 PM) [snapback]45653[/snapback]

In that case it's definitely praise laugh.gif

Nah, top marks for usage of somnolent without a crowbar...and managing to rhyme 'Ton with yawn smile.gif

You've made me blush-by the way do you think Jule-Anne has ever heard of a Limerick.

My favourite:

I'll tell you of something uncanny
which befell my respectable Granny.
She sat on her chair
when her dentures were there,
And bit herself right on the fanny!



Ouch biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-20 22:34:27 Julie Anne the sad thing about lovely wee pets is that they all 'pass on' eventually.

I gather that hamsters are rather prone to 'falling asleep at the wheel". ! blink.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-20 23:16:09
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Oct 20 2005, 11:04 PM) [snapback]45673[/snapback]

Remember and enjoy the next month or two with Mary doll. She'll be due to hibernate after that.....

An' Rab C's nose'll be in a poke!! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-20 23:21:35
QUOTE(div @ Oct 20 2005, 08:55 PM) [snapback]45627[/snapback]

You'd all give your right baw to be a Saints fan with your team sitting proudly on top of the first division, not to mention being in the final of the wee diddy cup having dumped our near neighbours on their arse on the way biggrin.gif

Good to, Good to be, Good to be a, buddie tongue.gif tongue.gif

An jist think Div, if we aw DONATED a right baw tae a skunk, they'd aw huv WAN each !!!!! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-20 23:26:31
QUOTE(Davie @ Oct 20 2005, 11:23 PM) [snapback]45677[/snapback]

I had a hamster not so long ago, it was called Fudge, noisy wee bugger.

It was always running around in its wheel etc, until I never heard it for a few days, and realised I hadn't fed it. So I decided to open up the cage and there it was, underneath its cotton wool, just lying.....

I thought it was asleep at first, but then I touched it, the thing was brick hard.

Do I need to go into more detail? unsure.gif

Point of the story is to keep feeding your hamster....... wink.gif

How many children did you have Davie? huh.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-21 07:55:56
QUOTE(Davie @ Oct 21 2005, 01:17 AM) [snapback]45709[/snapback]

Now there's a story you don't hear every day! A roasted hamster, jeeso laugh.gif laugh.gif

Kind of sick, mind you. unsure.gif

Davie, which would you prefer as a form of slow death-roasting, or starvation-frankly I think they're both a bit sick-but neither's as bad as being forcibly dressed up in a 'Skunk's strip, and made to smile while somebody takes yer photie!
mortonjag 2005-10-21 08:03:13 The 'Weatherson up front' poll has been slow, but we've now had enough votes, I think, to be significant.

Most folks have been sensible and added comments, and their reasons for how they've voted, and it's resulted in a clear 2-1 vote in favour of Spoonsy being moved forward.

Do you think Jim McInally-though I doubt if he's interested in this, should listen to us, or does he know more than we do?



YES


NO
mortonjag 2005-10-21 08:19:13
QUOTE(Boutros @ Oct 21 2005, 08:06 AM) [snapback]45732[/snapback]

No, he won't listen.
No, I don't think he should listen (let him do his job).
Yes, he knows more than you.
Why didn't you make this a poll if you're gonna have "Poll" in the title?

Point taken!
mortonjag 2005-10-21 08:23:30 Should the manager listen to our 2-1 vote in favour of moving Peter Weatherson forward?
mortonjag 2005-10-21 10:41:49
QUOTE(rex manning @ Oct 21 2005, 09:48 AM) [snapback]45758[/snapback]

It would be great if the manager could just be ruthless and pick the team and formation he feels would win each week, but I don't think he can afford that luxury

Surely that's exactly what Jim McInally should be doing.

I respect DOT's opinions but in this instance I entirely agree with you.

Somehow I don't think the Brian Cloughs and Alex Fergusons of this world give a toss about their popularity in the dressing room or boardroom. Success is a greater reward and that's what Jim is ultimately being paid for.
mortonjag 2005-10-21 10:56:55
QUOTE(Davie @ Oct 21 2005, 12:57 AM) [snapback]45699[/snapback]

I reckon the only time Weatherson would ever be pushed up-front to start a match would be if all 3 of our out-and-out strikers were injured or suspended, then he would play himself and maybe Andy up there.

Can't see McInally dropping Temps, Lilley or Walker to play our best defender up-front though.

Davie, would you like to define an 'out and out striker' for me.

In my book, and going on our current performance, I would have Spoonsy, AND Jason above Temps and Lilley, who just aren't cutting it right now.

I'm sick of people saying Weatherson is NEEDED in his present position-utter pish IMO-the guy's great there, but his goal scoring potential's wasted and we are suffering as a result.
mortonjag 2005-10-21 15:21:41
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Oct 21 2005, 02:45 PM) [snapback]45856[/snapback]

MortonJag are you Spoonsy in disguise!

s***-I've blown it-but Guys-thanks for the votes anyway-I'm just itching to get up there and do something instead of getting praised for being stuck back here marking time-after all any eejit can defend but it takes talent (ME) to knock in the goals!

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mortonjag 2005-10-21 15:35:15
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Oct 21 2005, 11:45 AM) [snapback]45804[/snapback]

blink.gif mad.gif Ofcoarse he knows more than us...HE IS the MANGER blink.gif I dont want to start a riot here but every time we get on the end of a bad result or a poor performance, some of us almost end up acting like the english media & supporters.." right he`s pish, lets have his head....or it`s oh fek wat a great win..he`s our saviour..." Both jimbo and Clarkey have years of knowledge and experience to handle this glitch. this is the first time,the first season that they have had their own team, give them a break, we`ve only just done a quarter of the season for god sake, and our record is far better at this point than last. As for Jim, c`mon, remember he`s played at the highest level of our game...or have you forgotten that. If changes are to be made, i have total faith in our manager and his assistant that they are more than equipped to to deal with any situation, and if you think back to last saturdays game, after it, he did actually take the blame for it going tits up, sign of a good manager? i think so, sign of a great manager? knowing his and the teams strengths and weaknessess...lets see what happens this sat against Raith. Regardless of the result, I for one aint about to about to start besting my head off the walls..NUFF SAID. rant over... huh.gif

This is the usual pish you get from the totally unimaginitive-'Of course he knows more than us-HE IS THE MANAGER!!!!!, and then-'this is the first season they've had their own team'.

Because Jim is manager doesn't mean he can't make mistakes-as you say he admitted that- and he has NO previous managerial experience. I wouldn't dream of suggesting that I could DO Jim's job' but I CAN still see so called strikers failing to score and a definite striker languishing out of position, and IMO it's time for Jim to open his eyes and discard this 'Sacred cow' of Weatherson in defence.

mortonjag 2005-10-21 15:42:09
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Oct 21 2005, 03:36 PM) [snapback]45879[/snapback]

and he has NO previous managerial experience
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Yes he does.

Where and with what success?
mortonjag 2005-10-21 15:53:41
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Oct 21 2005, 03:47 PM) [snapback]45885[/snapback]

laugh.gif piss on it then sell it on ebay to some unsuspecting skunks fan

Do the crossword-if you're dyslexic and went to special school, wear a blindfold first or you'll have an unfair advantage. biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-21 16:03:56
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Oct 21 2005, 09:09 AM) [snapback]45744[/snapback]

We've heard plenty of opinions that players are played out of position or that our formation is wrong, but it's rare to see it followed up by the poster';s favoured selection. I'm guilty of this myself, partly because I feel Jim McInally won't drop certain players, and partly because I don't want to put my private thoughts down for all to see, mainly because I am reluctant to ask for players who give 100% every week to be dropped. I also think Jim is doing a great job and I don't want to critisise him. However (deep breath) we definitely play a few players out of position so lets be honest and list what we feel would be the selection most likely to produce a win on Saturday.

I'll start with:

---------------------------------McGurn---------------------------------

Finlayson-----------Greacen-------------Harding----------McGregor

Millar---------------A.Walker------------McAllister---------McLaughlin

---------------------McLaren-------------Weatherson------------------

DOT, we've been thinking along those lines for a while, but why not swop McAllister with Walker-I remember seeing him play right midfield for the reserves when he was only 17, and he stuck out a mile.
Like Spoonsy, the boy's been playing out of position, and Chris Millar's been getting stick because the right midfield has been dominated by Kev. IMO with Chris being able to drift wide and link up with Andy, and young Jim in his natural position, we'd be far more productive.
mortonjag 2005-10-21 16:14:03
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Oct 21 2005, 04:04 PM) [snapback]45901[/snapback]

He was manager of an Irish team. Sligo Rovers i think.

Albeit for a short and unsuccessful period.

Guess what you guys are admitting is that Jim has no REAL managerial experience.

He's on a learning curve, and no way am I slating him. I've been extremely impressed with the way we've cancelled out other teams-funnily enough Raith when we played them at Scapa, where we made them look very ordinary- and I admire the fitness and general discipline in the squad.

It's just, and I've said this before- that I feel Jim has to be a wee bit more adventurous-take some gambles if you like-the guy just epitomises consolidation and containment-but we've GOT TO GET GOALS, so let's give Vialli and Temps a wee rest-they're good players, but they're not cutting it right now, and get Jason and Spoonsy up there!!
mortonjag 2005-10-21 16:19:20
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 20 2005, 09:01 AM) [snapback]45425[/snapback]

I think the comparison between IQ and common sense is illustrated by the story of how the USA spent millions of dollars developing a pen that would work under zero gravity conditions as part of their space programme. All that IQ in one room trying to come up with a solution. And eventually, they did.

The Russians used a pencil......

They were using red lead in the inverclyde shipyards years before that! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-21 16:26:21
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Oct 21 2005, 04:17 PM) [snapback]45909[/snapback]

Harding has had a poor season IMO, i'm not going to sugarcoat it. He is a very promising young player and was very much a clas act at the end of last season but he hasn't lived up to that so far this season. His performance at Partick is enough to get any player dropped IMO. I don't think playing on the left side of a back 3 is helping him, he looked much more comfortable in a back 4. But if he can't adjust and start getting his game together I think MacGregor deserves a chance, especially after playing well against Peterhead.

I'd go along with that, but only

a/ because David hasn't really been given a chance since he came back to fitness, and was shaping up well before his injury, and

b/ Ryan's form HAS dipped, not helped by having to play out of his natural position. The boy has class, and I think he's a real good'un for the future though.
mortonjag 2005-10-21 16:34:01
QUOTE(g_m_f_c_1874_g_m_f_c @ Oct 20 2005, 10:30 PM) [snapback]45663[/snapback]

This make you happy Puggsy?

I do know u were joking but there we go tongue.gif

Here's another wub.gif

Got to say the lass has really nice boobs, but otherwise looks a bit shapeless.
mortonjag 2005-10-21 16:53:40
QUOTE(stubaws @ Oct 21 2005, 04:34 PM) [snapback]45918[/snapback]

on current form and in my opinion this is our strongest team for tomorrow:

McGurn

Weatherson Graecan Mcgregor

Millar A.Walker McLaughlan McAllister

McLaren

Templeman J.Walker

don't really see how anyone could argue with this as our strongest team at the moment!

Interesting to see you've 'dropped' Kev. Two weeks ago I was getting abuse for daring to criticise him. I still think, though, that he should play in Spoonsy's spot, and let the latter move forward where he WILL get goals-I promise!!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-21 17:00:43
QUOTE(edd @ Oct 21 2005, 04:49 PM) [snapback]45923[/snapback]

don't like the idea of mcallister at central midfield, personally. remember last year when we played 4-3-3 for ages with mcallister, millar and adam in midfield and we all complained it was too lightweight?

mcgurn
finlayson greacen harding macgregor
millar a.walker mclaughlin mcallister
weatherson mclaren

that could be a good line-up, not convinced about the fullbacks though ...

John Adam's still a bit slow to mature, but since last season McAllister's come on a bomb, and Chris is more physical.

Bear in mind we do have a very young midfield anyway, and neither Walker nor McLaughlin is a 'shirker'.

I believe that Kev can do a good job at right back, and David McGregor is pretty competent anywhere in defence IMO
mortonjag 2005-10-21 17:22:30
QUOTE(BasraTon @ Oct 21 2005, 05:18 PM) [snapback]45929[/snapback]

Not that bothered aslong as we put in a good performance and gain the 3 points

BasraTon you're a master of stating the obvious-(and hedging your bets)-c'mon man-what's your team?!
mortonjag 2005-10-21 17:48:16
QUOTE(ianton @ Oct 21 2005, 05:22 PM) [snapback]45932[/snapback]

really get pressed if we lose tomorrow.especially if gretna and thistle win again.i know we are short in certain positions.the fact that our forwards are shocking just now ,yes that includes lilley as well.we will be right in it.

Don't be so bloody stupid. We're finishing the first quarter with some very hard matches, and it's clear McInally has to sort out the scoring problem, but 'panic button' is IMO a gross overstatement
mortonjag 2005-10-21 18:01:51
QUOTE(Davie @ Oct 21 2005, 05:44 PM) [snapback]45934[/snapback]

That really is quite shocking. I would have thought AT LEAST one of those guys may have some information about the lower leagues, who plays for who etc - unfortunately not. dry.gif

It's the old story Davie. SPL rules and f*ck the rest.

I've got to admit that 'Off the ball' is extremely funny, and I think Tam is a 'Hoot'. Remember he IS a comedian, and relies heavily on his researchers and scriptwriters.

Having said that, if he's going to 'plumb the depths' of the lower divisions, it just isn't good enough.
mortonjag 2005-10-21 18:13:47
QUOTE(Davie @ Oct 21 2005, 05:50 PM) [snapback]45937[/snapback]

I will start pushing this 'panic button' if we are not in the top 4 come March. smile.gif

Where can I find this button anyway? Just incase....

Between Jim McInally's legs! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-21 18:27:37 Obviously everybody has shied off this one after last week's reverse, but maybe it's the best thing that could have happened to bring us back to earth.

I am, (as always), optimistic about tomorrow-I'm sure we'll get a point at least, and wouldn't be at all surprised if we come good and win by a couple of goals.

Bear in mind Guys, we're a young side, with a manager who is learning his trade too, and, (forgetting Mileson and his overpaid toys, who just make me want to vomit), we are top of this league on merit!

I was bitterly disappointed on the way home last week, like the rest of you, but hopefully we've learned from that, so just to cheer myself up I predict 2-0 to the TON, (a double by Spoonsy who will rightly be re-instated to his position elect!!!!!!!!!) smile.gif blink.gif blink.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-21 18:48:52
QUOTE(deego @ Oct 21 2005, 03:31 PM) [snapback]45876[/snapback]

your not really spoonsy are you?

Deego, that would be telling-you're not really Phil Cannie-are you, 'cos if you are-can I tell you that even if you're not the most skilful player I've ever seen, at least after 90 minutes, the opposition KNOWS you've been on the pitch-(Temps and Vialli are you reading this) oops sorry-just thought the forum had gone strangely quiet, and no doubt, some eejit will bite and want to chew ma baws!!!!!
mortonjag 2005-10-21 19:28:09
QUOTE(BeithTonFan @ Oct 21 2005, 07:01 PM) [snapback]45952[/snapback]

Will go for a 2 - 1 victory to the TON Spoonsy and Vialli to score the latter coming off the bench to make it 2 - 1

Well if this happens ill post the lottery numbers tom as well, Still look forward to visiting kircaldy again tom and hope we can bring home 3 points as i expect partick to put 5 past stirling and gretna to sneak 3 points as well so we need to take something back from Raith tommorrow to maintain our 2nd place
cool.gif cool.gif COME ON YEE TON cool.gif cool.gif

Partick will probably 'walk it', but Gretna are due to get egg on their faces sooner or later.

Forfar at home are never a 'push over'- we could have been promoted already if it wasn't for that abysmal game up there last season.

I guess I take this a bit personally, and I'm not sure why, but I resent Mileson and his 'Joke'.

If you're a millionaire, and want to invest in football- WHY GRETNA-the guy's in need of psychiatric care!

Sorry. I was digressing-what I was about to say was that Gretna will get humped raw- Alexander will resign in the huff-Deuchar will go back to writing prescriptions-and Mileson will f*ck off to meddle somewhere else where he's equally unwelcome-may I recommend female international tiddlywinks-sounds entirely suitable for a guy who wants to play SPL football on a village green!
mortonjag 2005-10-21 19:38:31
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Oct 21 2005, 07:29 PM) [snapback]45965[/snapback]

Being honest and going with what I really think... 2-1 to Raith.

Why don't you write-'I'm an archetypal pessimist' instead. C'mon man, be happy tonight-plenty of time to shed the tears tomorrow-or have you just got your nose in a poke 'cos you're not going?! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-21 19:43:57
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 21 2005, 07:32 PM) [snapback]45966[/snapback]

_______________________McGurn__________________

Weatherson______Greacen______Harding_____McGregor

Finlayson________Millar__________Walker____McLaughlin

_______________McLaren________Walker_____________

Not necessarily my team but i reckon that's what Jim will start with.

What Jim started with last week f*cked up well and truly LargsTON-what's YOUR team mate? biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-21 20:18:32
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 21 2005, 07:55 PM) [snapback]45976[/snapback]

More or less the same although i'd contemplate Templeman up front with McLaren and seeing how Finlayson got on if swapped with Millar.

I don't deny he's a poor crosser of the ball, maybe we'd see both players benefit if they traded places.

Dunno though, it's good to have options.

Fair enough, though I still think Kevin has been a mixed blessing. He's so useful you can't contemplate dropping him, yet he's lost in attack, IMO.

Can you get your mind round giving Spoonsy a shot where I think he belongs, and putting Kev into his slot?
mortonjag 2005-10-21 20:28:40
QUOTE(Julie-Anne @ Oct 21 2005, 03:23 PM) [snapback]45871[/snapback]

Hmmm......you have worried me now...are they supposed to do the toilet?!!

Julie-Anne. you started such a good thread-who could have predicted that TON fans would take such an interest in little warm furry things in need of TLC, but yes, unlike the thread, I doubt if Mary is constipated, so be sure and stock up with Andrex!
mortonjag 2005-10-23 08:47:30 As I've said before, the problem with our fans seems to be that they want to compete with the opposition supporters instead of getting behind the team.

We're going to outnumber the Gretna crowd on Saturday, but hopefully they will needle us enough to get our danders up (especially after they take a tanking from the 'Sons' on Tuesday! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-23 08:56:07 I thought David was excellent yesterday. He only made one mistake late in the second half, but the situation was retreived.

His timing of challenges was precise, and he almost always got the ball to a team mate instead of just lumping it away.

He also had one great run up the middle, and could possibly have scored, but he layed off a perfect pass to Andy, who unfortunately 'sclaffed it'.

Big Stu was 'brill' yesterday-just a couple of wee slips, and a cracking goal.

Ryan had a nightmare game. He's a class act on form, but on yesterday's showing David MUST start the next game IMO.
mortonjag 2005-10-23 09:13:28 I'm delighted that we won, and IMO, Raith in the second half were a better footballing side than Partick- and roasted our defence at times-Davie McGurn deserves a lot of credit for dealing cooly with the pressure.

What upsets me is that neither of our goals came from an attacker-it breaks my heart to see such talent failing to produce-and I'm sorry, but I'm getting pissed off with it. I think the manager must take some blame-though credit to him for shuffling things a bit yesterday.

The Kevin Finlayson 'thing' just seems to go on and on. I know this is simplistic, but on one side of the half way line he is superb, and on the other, a waste of space.

Andy has been less productive of late, and we can't always expect one man to 'come up with the goods'. Jim McAllister's form has dipped, but the boy is still being played out of position on the left-he doesn't get crosses over, and nothing much comes over from the right either.

Scott McLaughlin looked promising yesterday, and I believe he may add new options for the strikers, but I think it's essential that we get the use of the wins sorted out pronto-AND keep Spoonsy up front where he belongs.

A final thought David McGregor was MOTM for me yesterday.
mortonjag 2005-10-23 09:53:31 I think Ryan Harding had a nightmare game yesterday, but on form he's good-he just has to be more concentrated and confine the 'classy' stuff to safer areas of the pitch, so I'd definitely have McGurn, Harding, Greacen, and McGregor at the back, with Spoonsy, Andy, and Jason the front three.

Millar, McLaughlin, Alex W. and McAllister all have to play, IMO, and that leaves us some bloody good subs on the bench, and before any of you eejits start moaning because I've dropped your 'favourite'-this modern game IS about a squad-not just eleven men.

Incidentally, I'd try McAllister and Millar together-right midfield.
mortonjag 2005-10-23 10:05:50
QUOTE(se56an @ Oct 23 2005, 09:46 AM) [snapback]46752[/snapback]

ohmy.gif

Am shocked, best man on that pitch in a Morton top was McGurn by far

I'd agree-I was thinking of outfield players when I made that comment-Both Davids were 'Goliaths'!
mortonjag 2005-10-23 10:15:05 Not only is it a very generous report, and well written, but the production runs to three pages with photos.

I really wish we had something like this on our site.

I think our Edinburgh opponents yesterday just got their geography a wee bit mixed up though!!! sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-23 11:32:18
QUOTE(BasraTon @ Oct 22 2005, 09:11 PM) [snapback]46530[/snapback]

Wasnt there so i voted for Harding rolleyes.gif

Neither was he!!!!! mad.gif

QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 23 2005, 10:45 AM) [snapback]46766[/snapback]

McGurn or Finlayson.

Once again Kevin made a couple of last ditch clearances and got through a power of work.

McGregor had a good game as well.

LargsTON, you're beginning to worry me-not one single poster has even mentioned Kev-guess you REALLY fancy him! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-23 11:36:02
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Oct 23 2005, 11:30 AM) [snapback]46777[/snapback]

Gretna play Raith on Tuesday! smile.gif

Sorry I was getting carried away with the Sons' success yesterday, and I see the fixture order is slightly different from the first quarter. No matter, by all accounts Gretna were not that great yesterday, and it's probably time for them to dip-so come on Raith-get it right up them! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-23 13:30:24
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Oct 23 2005, 01:27 PM) [snapback]46799[/snapback]

Dazza's initial post will be correct, as that's what we played yesterday, and it worked... with the obvious dropping of Harding was s***e.

In whose opinion?!!!!! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-23 13:43:39
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 23 2005, 01:30 PM) [snapback]46805[/snapback]

Maybe part of his problem is that there isn't much competition for his place, plus he's on a long deal (three years, I think?) Maybe showing him that a starting place has to be earned would help him regain his form.

To be honest NOK, I don't think so. I met Ryan at one of those hospitality days, and he struck me as a really nice, but slightly naive, and easily enbarrassed young lad-I think dropping him might just make his head go down, and he must feel bad enough already after yesterday's performance.

On form, and sure of where he's playing, (and again I think this might favour a back four, playing the old 'sweeper' game), he is excellent, and nobody at Scapa, IMO, hits a long ball more accurately.

I think Jim should take him aside, and drum into him the mistakes he's making, and the boy will take heed, I'm sure.
mortonjag 2005-10-23 13:49:17
QUOTE(Inver_Ton @ Oct 23 2005, 01:40 PM) [snapback]46814[/snapback]

They were outside the gates we went in smile.gif

Gladly put dosh into it, guys were quite talkitive(sp) too !

This post is I agree slightly disjointed, but I happily chucked two quid into the guy's bucket-after all we've been there too, but was really angry when we all applauded 'Give racism the red card" and then those 'tolerant' fans started yelling 'Junkie' at Andy.

Selective discrimination if you ask me, or more like it blind f*cking stupidity.

mortonjag 2005-10-23 13:57:44 Here we go again-the sacred cow of Weatherson in defence.

Andy and Spoonsy were already starting to gel yesterday-and they only played HALF a match up front together.

No way, especially with David McG back on form, and Finlayson only worthy of a place in defence, IMO, should he be wasted when we desperately need goals-and for you simpletons who write before you think-I KNOW HE DIDN'T SCORE YESTERDAY! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-23 14:06:28
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 23 2005, 02:02 PM) [snapback]46828[/snapback]

Tonjag: Fair enough, I was jsut throwing ideas around biggrin.gif

Well, NOK, at least you think before you throw, unlike some of the "TOSSERS" on this post! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-23 14:25:22
QUOTE(Danger_Mouse @ Oct 22 2005, 08:42 AM) [snapback]46137[/snapback]

Go on explain!!!!
laugh.gif

Just that it's easy to rhyme words with Laura McB-like

A TON fan called Laura McB,
Got locked inside Scapa-you see.
For a night and a day,
'til kind Dougie Rae
'phoned, and said 'Ye can borrow ma key'.

etc., etc.
huh.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-23 14:34:59
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Oct 23 2005, 02:01 PM) [snapback]46827[/snapback]

That is true.

What the hell has that got to do with it, or are you suggesting he's been shagging Mrs Romanov?

George (Fanny) Foulkes said it all at 6pm last night, in his thinly disguised appeal for supermanager and 'yes man' all rolled into one.
mortonjag 2005-10-23 14:47:45 Stranraer were in a similar position relative to us last season Tonsilitis-I agree with what you say, but getting the points is the crux of the matter-Just imagine-if we beat Stirling and Gretna, and they lose to Raith, we'll all be wearing huge grins this time next week! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-23 14:52:54
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Oct 23 2005, 02:42 PM) [snapback]46834[/snapback]

It has nothing to do with anything. Just confirming that he was forced to quit at Derby after shagging one of his players' wife.

You'd get a job on the 'Nudes of the World', or the 'Scum' any day Thornton-any scandal about Julie-Anne's hamster that got lost 'down behind her drawers' ?!!! smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-23 15:01:18
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 18 2005, 08:58 PM) [snapback]44966[/snapback]

Last season i was far from convinced about Jim and i was involved in many disagreements on here with various posters. Thought he was a bit of a headless chicken.

No doubt he's came on leaps and bounds during the close season and his form in the early games, particuarly Gretna, was hugely impressive and i thought we had a real gem on our hands.

Maybe we still do.

However, the boy's been asked to play out of position since more or less day one and imo has looked really jaded in recent weeks.

IMO he could do with a rest and a spell on the bench for his own good.

Silly talk of u-21 caps can't be helping although in Jim's defence he seems to have a strong head on his shoulders.

No doubt he's a good young player but compare him to a young McInnes, Mahood or Lilley and there's a world of difference imo.

So to sum up, yes, i do rate him but i think he should be used slightly more sparingly particuarly when we have other options available.

'Headless chicken', and you're a Finlayson man-talk about the kettle calling the pot black!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-23 15:48:05
QUOTE(BasraTon @ Oct 23 2005, 09:39 AM) [snapback]46750[/snapback]

I wonder if all these shops are owned by Mileson biggrin.gif

Doubt it, as apparently he's made his money from insurance, which probably explains why he knows f*ck all about football.

I think it's really sad that there are so many Scottish provincial clubs that COULD have thrived with his support, as they at least have reasonable fan bases-but then, he's NOT Scottish, and I believe his focus (deviously) is still on Carlisle, whom he's already had the opportunity to buy twice, and knocked it back.

If, in the longer term, he proves me wrong, good luck to him, but I just think the whole 'Gretna thing' is a joke, and an accident waiting to happen, after which his 'no claims bonus' will be scuppered, and 'Good riddance' IMO.
mortonjag 2005-10-23 15:56:03
QUOTE(Jackie @ Oct 23 2005, 03:31 PM) [snapback]46846[/snapback]

People are discussing the possibilites of who it could be here.

In all fairness it doesn't have to be a Premier League player I guess, but wouldn't it be interesting if it was.

Link

Add you suggestions here.

Well, Jackie, 'Coke' is pretty expensive, and I guess we don't have to worry about our lot, so I, for one, couldn't care less who it is.

Sad, though, that talented young athletes fall victim to their addictive personalities.
mortonjag 2005-10-23 16:22:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 23 2005, 04:18 PM) [snapback]46863[/snapback]

Had no problem getting out after the game yesterfay

I agree, there was a wee bit of a bottleneck at first, but after that it cleared fine, and I've often seen worse at Scapa
mortonjag 2005-10-23 16:34:39 Kevin is a superb squad player, but I feel that with David McGregor coming on to form, and Scott McLaughlin playing well yesterday, we're running out of space for him. Most posters are agreed that he's no big advantage going forward.
mortonjag 2005-10-23 16:59:40
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Oct 23 2005, 04:41 PM) [snapback]46875[/snapback]

Get rid off him. Bring back Paul Walker. He was brilliant at tracking back.

Your sarcasm is wasted and totally irrelevant to the question-just further evidence of the muddle headed thinking of those of you who are overly impressed by a guy who gives 100%, 100% of the time.

I admire that no end, but what does he REALLY achieve. IMO, there's definitely a place for him on the bench, and he's a real asset if you want to play a 'holding' game, but everybody agrees we need goals right now.

The only way I could see Kev getting a starting place would be as a right back, or even a sweeper.
mortonjag 2005-10-23 17:08:47
QUOTE(Jackie @ Oct 23 2005, 04:57 PM) [snapback]46893[/snapback]

Which is why it is posted in "general nonsense"

If it doesn't interest you why open it, and reply to it? To get your post count up wink.gif

Didn't say the topic is uninteresting-just couldn't give a 'stuff' who it is-and as for 'getting my post count up' is there some special prize or something that I don't know about-if so, I could treble my post in a couple of days by adding multiple examples of the meaningless tripe which plagues those forums day in and day out! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-24 06:36:56
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Oct 24 2005, 01:13 AM) [snapback]47420[/snapback]

That's the problem, there isn't any. smile.gif

There's about two in Gretna. The big decent one at the roundabout, and then there's a wee hotel on the road to it. Miles away though.

That's the problem, there isn't any-Donga you've just pinponted what I've been going on about for months.

Gretna was a lovely wee place until the Monster Mileson muscled in, and your comment about pubs could also be used of the fan base.

Maybe I've missed something, but I wish he would come out and OPENLY state his plans.

There's NO WAY, IMO, that top grade (Scottish OR English) football will ever be successfully played at Gretna, and the nearest half decent Scottish town-well there really isn't one, so he MUST BE looking at Carlisle, and the crooked charlatan is using the Bell's league to try it on.

No harm to the Gretna folks, but I hope his empire collapses around him. mad.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-24 06:55:23
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 23 2005, 08:23 PM) [snapback]47224[/snapback]

Question for you, Mortonjag - Kevin out the team or Weatherson in sussies?

Wouldn't mind both to be honest LargsTON, as long as Spoonsy's up front he can go 'bollicky' as far as I'm concerned.

What is it about you Largs/Inverkip types-yer neebor up at the power station thinks Finlayson's a wing back-was it all that nuclear stuff hitting your brains when you were WEE- ER boys!!!!! biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Oct 23 2005, 06:03 PM) [snapback]46987[/snapback]

What a silly poll. Kevin is a bigger asset to the team than McGregor and McLaughlin combined - and they're both decent squad players. sad.gif

Another poor soul conned by fast, furious, , and feckless Kev-the demented greyhound-I try to be reasonable-he's superb as a workhorse but he's a plain f*cking disaster going forward-and you guys enrage me with your idol worship.

Your comments comparing him with the other two are reprehensible-do you really go to the games or just come on this site to irritate people? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-24 07:13:36
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Oct 24 2005, 12:45 AM) [snapback]47405[/snapback]

Love this thread! "Don't get stuck into him - get stuck into THESE c***s!"

Brilliant.

SPOT ON DONGA-Those immature eejits don't actually read what people like Piehutt and myself have been saying, and we don't pull other players down to justify our opinions. As far as I can see it's only DEEGO who totally 'rubbishes' the guy, and maybe he's just at an easy 'wind up'!

The way I see it is this-our biggest failing this season is lack of goals, and time, after time, after time, Finlayson charges up the pitch, and DOES get into good position-all credit to him for that-but then TOTALLY WASTES IT.

It's got to the stage where I just want to shut my eyes and greet when I see it.

OK, balance that with his incredible energy, fitness, and reliability in our half of the pitch, but the total package is sadly lacking IMO.

Sure Paul Walker wasn't perfect but to even think of comparing their STYLES is a joke!
mortonjag 2005-10-24 07:25:32
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 22 2005, 09:06 PM) [snapback]46523[/snapback]

Apparently Stirling might well have come away with a draw today against (an admittedly poor) Partick Thistle side.

I'm just worried that Stirling might snatch something on the break, or due to a Morton error, and we'll pound away in the midfield for the whole game and get nothing out of it.

I wasn't at the game today, so I'll just ask: what were our two goals like? Did we threaten (and I mean really threaten, not pass the ball about on the edge of the area or play a bad cross) often?

I think Partick just had a 'bad day at the office', and still got the result.

Stirling have just lost it this season, and if we don't capitalise with a DECENT scoreline tomorrow, questions really need to be asked.

I thought we played quite well at Kircaldy, in general terms, and Raith were no pushover, but in terms of actual goalscoring chances, ther wasn't much improvement.

What did please me was that Andy and Spoonsy were starting to gel up front after only 45 minutes, and I believe that could come good, but I bet Spoonsy gets pushed back into defence again. sad.gif sad.gif mad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

PS Don't think any of us saw Walkers goal very well as it was way at the other end, but the build up was good.

Big Stu got above their defence for a free, and put a nice header in off the base of the post-placed perfectly-otherwise the goalie would have got it.
mortonjag 2005-10-24 07:35:40
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 23 2005, 08:04 PM) [snapback]47214[/snapback]

Weatherson looked totally lost up front yesterday and it proved Jim was correct to move him to the back. biggrin.gif

Let's hear no more talk of this Weatherson up front malarky, shrivelled baws.

Oh, and ONE KEVIN FINLAYSON.

smile.gif

Morning LargsTON, guess you'll be away off to bed after your nightshift playing the forum.

Hope you don't have satin sheets, as your opinions on this topic confirm that you are an archetypal WANKER!!!

By the way, it's almost 12 hours since you spewed out this tripe, and not one poster has agreed with you.

Maybe you have masturbation myopia-a blind muppet could see on Saturday that if Andy and Spoonsy are allowed to work things out up front, we WILL get goals. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-24 07:42:20
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 23 2005, 07:58 PM) [snapback]47206[/snapback]

Finlayson's ANYTHING but a headless chicken! laugh.gif

His excellent positional sense saved us on more than one occasion yesterday - a fact noted by his team mates. dry.gif

Week in week out he makes significant contributions to the match - a lot more than can be said of other players.

Not sure you understand the term LargsTON.

Finlayson, I agree did everything you say, maybe because of that he does deserve to keep his place in the team- but going forward he is a dead loss, wastes umpteen opportunities, and just looks like-err--- a 'headless chicken'.!
mortonjag 2005-10-24 08:01:23
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 24 2005, 03:04 AM) [snapback]47446[/snapback]

There's no shame in cocaine.

We should start a similar campaign to the show the racism the red card one.

"There's no shame in cocaine."

As usual LargsTON, you are indulging in infantile drivel, despite averring the other day that you're a big grown-up man of 28 years.

What's the point of your gratuitous sarcasm anyway?

The truth is that there IS no shame in having inherited an addictive personality, and I, and many others were again disgusted by the Raith fans berating Andy McLaren.

At least he's had the balls to get his problem sorted, but I guess those midge brains are stuck with theirs.

And just an addendum-alcohol is BY A LONG WAY the villain of the piece in this country-a drug which causes more problems in society than all of the others, AND gambling put together
mortonjag 2005-10-24 08:12:33
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 23 2005, 09:11 PM) [snapback]47239[/snapback]

Went up to Braehead today looking for a winter jacket.

Never realised some shops had a mid term sale on and ended up getting a Hackett coat for 125 quid - almost 50% off!

For anyone who likes their designer labels get up to ATH Leisure or Bank (i think) as there's some cracking deals on.

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Yer coat'll go nicely wi' yer face then son! biggrin.gif tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-24 08:19:25
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 23 2005, 09:45 PM) [snapback]47258[/snapback]

how many alter egos to each coach seat ?

Is it legal to sit on someone's lap on a bus in Scotland ?
ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

Only if yer a dug, (or a Siamese twin). laugh.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-24 10:41:49 In today's 'Herald', there is a write up of all the Div 2 games except ours-and of all the Div 3 games for that matter.

The Partick game got quite good coverage, as did Gretna, and even the Sons got a wee 'mensh'.

A bit ironic given that we were described on the Raith web site as a Glasgow team!

Hope somebody gets his arse felt for this, after all, there were well over 2000 at the game, but I doubt if they really give a toss.

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mortonjag 2005-10-24 11:29:50
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 24 2005, 11:23 AM) [snapback]47494[/snapback]

The Herald has never been at the forefront of lower league coverage, so doesn't surprise me one bit. The Sun and, to a lesser extent, the Daily Ranger provide much better coverage of the lower leagues. Good point in case is the two-page spread of the Morton game in today's Supergoals biggrin.gif

I agree-it's just annoying me 'cos the Herald's always been my 'rag' and don't see why I should pay twice, but I got a Sun anyway, and the coverage was OK.

The point wasn't about poor coverage, though, they missed us out completely, and as I said, Partick and Gretna got good, albeit small, reports.

That just seems illogical.
mortonjag 2005-10-24 11:31:20
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Oct 24 2005, 10:57 AM) [snapback]47482[/snapback]

Noticed at the game on Sat at the McLaren Substitution that Andy Bryan held up an electronic board to bring Andy McLaren off, just wondering (because I have nothing better to do) when did we get it- looks pretty smart although I prefered the old wooden ones!

Do you think Andy got a SHOCK when he saw it? smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-24 11:35:49
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 24 2005, 11:17 AM) [snapback]47490[/snapback]

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You really are a weapon.

I knew you'd bite. Get your head out your arse, twat.

Gosh-I knew something was wrong-there-that's fixed it-thanks for the diagnosis-so eloquently delivered LargsTON.

Are you a specialist in things stuck up arses, perchance? biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-25 09:48:02
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Oct 24 2005, 02:48 PM) [snapback]47595[/snapback]

I have to admit Jim surprised me with his selection on Saturday which proved he's prepared to drop players who are off form, regardless of reputation, in the interests of getting a result.

I suggested the following team in another post, but felt like others with similar selections, that there was no chance of seeing it. It turned out this was the eleven selected and the formation apparently wasn't that far away either. (I couldn't make it to the game as I had my family visiting me in Aberdeen for October week).

---------------------------------McGurn---------------------------------

Finlayson-----------Greacen-------------Harding----------McGregor

Millar---------------A.Walker------------McAllister---------McLaughlin

---------------------McLaren-------------Weatherson------------------

I therefore take back my suspicions that Jim appeared reluctant to drop certain players. Alogogies Jim if you're reading this.

I would play Harding in a back four at the moment, though not in a back 3. I now feel Jim will drop Ryan if he feels it will benefit the team. It looks as though Jim didn't feel Spoonsy was the answer up front as he moved him back at half time (though was that enough time to call the experiment over?), but credit is due for giving it a go.

For tomorrow, from Jim's comments, it looks as though he may go for something like:

-----------------------------------McGurn-------------------------------

---------------Weatherson-------Greacen--------McGregor----------

Finlayson--------Millar------A.Walker----McLaughlin------McAllister

--------------------McLaren---------------Lilley------------------------

or if he plays 4-4-2:

-------------------------------McGurn--------------------------------

Finlayson--------Greacen----------Weatherson--------McGregor

Millar-------------A.Walker-----------McLaughlin------McAllister

---------------------McLaren---------Lilley/J.Walker---------------

I'd go along with your suggestion, except, that as I've stated elsewhere, I can't see the problem in switching young McAllister to right midfield, where, IMO, he'd be more comfortable and productive. Alex Walker and Scott seem OK for the left side.

If Kev Finlayson got the number three slot, I would be more than happy, provided he is definitely playing in a defensive role, where he's tireless and extremely resourceful.

For those who have knocked me for 'giving him stick'-if I disliked the guy, or wanted him dropped-would I say that?


mortonjag 2005-10-25 10:00:49 Personal opinion-

I love the Home strip (blue and white hoops).

I think the tartan strip is striking but ill-conceived, - if it sells more sweeties, though, Dougie can support us better.

The strip we wore at Starks Park was totally insipid with the tops and shorts clashing-I think the tartan tops would have caused confusion with the Raith colours and that's why we wore it.

I'd love to go back to the fluorescent tangerine, (or something similar), of Hal Stewart's era-if I'm not mistaken, the TON were the first senior British side to wear a fluorescent strip, and in those days, (when the floodlights were not that great), it really did help the players to find each other on the park.
mortonjag 2005-10-25 10:06:40
QUOTE(Lost in Space @ Oct 24 2005, 10:33 PM) [snapback]47809[/snapback]

Criticising players is fair enough I reckon, as is criticising people for their opinions, such is the nature of a forum like this.

And you'll notice that I started the topic praising McGurn for his superb performance on Saturday.

At least I don't stoop so low as to slag people off verbally for voicing their opinions.

Good post.

Slagging off is part of the fun though, as long as it's always 'tongue in cheek', and not meant personally, or offensively.

Truth is that we're all (apart from a few brain damaged interloping skunks), TON supporters, and when the chips are down we all want the same thing. smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-26 07:40:52 I thought Derek 'worked his balls' off last night. Things just haven't been panning out for him, but I'm sure the break will come.

It was interesting, when he's been getting pelters for 'not trying', that he was one of few last night who looked like he WAS playing for his pride (and his wages).

mortonjag 2005-10-26 07:49:56 OK folks, so the heads are down after the most woeful display in ages, but Partick and Raith got gubbed too.

You can't win them all-that's football, but we''ll be back.

What galls me is that if it wasn't for this crazy play-off situation, in terms of the old promotion set-up, we actually IMPROVED our chances last night.

Seems like there are no BAD teams in this league-Ayr were going great guns, and now the Sons, Peterhead, and Stirling are coming good, Forfar are always stuffy, and never knock the 'Wasps'.

Gretna are not invincible, but if we want to keep dreaming of automatic promotion, we just have to do it on Saturday.

IMO, last night's game has improved our chances-we're now going as underdogs, and with a wee grudge-same way as Stirling came to Scapa last night.

mortonjag 2005-10-26 09:09:04 Vive la belle France et l'entente cordiale et f*ck l'Angleterre!

Ou est Gretna- alors, je pense que ce n'est pas vraiment en Ecosse.

Lets get into those English b*stards on Saturday-Aux armes citoyens, formez vos bataillons-marchons, marchons, etc!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-26 09:29:08
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 26 2005, 09:08 AM) [snapback]48489[/snapback]

Greacen was all over the place last night but he was nowhere near as bad as McLaughlan (no idea what McInally sees in him) and Finlayson, who is frankly mince in my opinion and was responsible for the second goal.
Seems totally obvious that we need two full-backs and Weatherson needs to move back upfront. Peter is the light years ahead of the others at Morton and seems to be the only one up for a fight when the chips are down.
I've read comments on here for weeks now about 'how much work' Finlayson goes through or how good he is 'defensively' but I've been watching football for over 30 years and cannot see it. He's nearly as bad at the headless chicken act as Williams was, covering ground, contributing nothing, conning the fans......
I thought we were a shoe-in for the play-offs but on last nights performance I may think again.

Davie-thanks for that input-I too have been watching the TON for, dare I say, over 45 years, and like you, I've seen it all before.

I've been getting slagged rotten for the last few weeks for daring to criticise (and that's all I've done) Kevin Finlayson.

Truth is that for all his good points, and he has got them, he's really much ado about nothing. The final product is non existent. He did miss a vital tackle last night, but don't knock him for that-the whole team was (worse than stale) pish!

The trouble is that Kev is the archetypal 'flatter to deceive' player.

Last night was, IMO, THE game where if Kev is really what others suggest, he'd have taken the bull by the horns and led by example (pardoning mixed metophors), but he did SFA, and for me that's confirmed my opinion. He should be on the bench on Saturday.
mortonjag 2005-10-26 09:47:41
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Oct 26 2005, 09:33 AM) [snapback]48499[/snapback]

this league's a joke. gretna will win it by a mile, and we'll be comfortably in the play-off positions. i can't believe people voted for this s***. a ten team league where fourth could get promoted?

some people still seem to be getting excited about performances and scores etc, but i guarantee that by christmas even the most slack-jawed in our support will have realised we won't have a really meaningful game until may.

the players already know it, clearly.

Nice post you mockit mutt!

Guess it's too late to change things now, but wonder what odds you'd get today against this set-up next year.

It breaks my heart to think Mileson has bought promotion in the way it's been done.

I HONESTLY wouldn't have cared if he had invested in a 'goer' -Raith, Partick, or even ourselves-no offence to Douglas Rae, but when I see a top heavy, and overpaid squad, of mercenaries happy to 'get their rocks off' on a village green every second Saturday, in front of a couple of hundred country bumpkins, I want to vomit. mad.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-26 09:56:17 It's OK talking tactics and lineups when the team is doing its best but not 'cutting it', and I DO think Jim McInally is still very inexperienced in real terms, but regarding last night's performance, he should get a break.

The attitude of that lot on the pitch was so poor that I doubt if an individual rocket up each arse would have made any difference, let alone a Jock Stein or Matt Busby! sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-26 10:02:55 The only guy I saw last night in a TON shirt who looked as though he was playing for his pride was Derek Lilley-I know he's not everybody's cup of tea, and has been poor of late, but at least he came off with his head held high.
mortonjag 2005-10-26 10:10:17
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Oct 26 2005, 10:03 AM) [snapback]48512[/snapback]

huh.gif

Sorry mate-I know they say 'brevity is the soul of wit' but what the f*ck does huh.gif mean!

Did you understand my post and disagree-if so tell me why (oops sorry-I forgot Smilies are handy when ure disslecksick an fingz)
mortonjag 2005-10-26 10:21:48
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Oct 26 2005, 10:08 AM) [snapback]48514[/snapback]

I reckon we're gonna take a pumping on saturday off of Gretna, this Morton team is as poor as i've seen since 6-1 at Hamilton, 4-1 at home against Stenny etc etc.

Brand new manager, brand new players, same old bottlers! The only common denominator is ourselves and Dougie Rae, what the hell happens to good hard working footballers when they turn up at Morton????

It's around a year since McInally took over, was that performance last night indicative of 'progress'??? I don't reckon our performance last night was that much worse than we've been playing for past 2 months, we've been getting away with it for weeks, but i really fear we're gonna start taking on water fast n start dropping like a stone. It would be ironic if this season we get locked into a battle for fourth, i really wouldn't rule it out.

I say give it 3 weeks and the knives are really gonna be out for McInally, unless performances (and hopefuly results) start majorly improving. You can sense a sinister under current brewing, the d1ckhead boo boys are dying for it.
If it does go this way and we end up firing another manager I reckon we could be stuck in this division for another 4-5 seasons!

M4RKO, you've obviously got a very short memory, and know very little about psychology.

We Beat Gretna in the cup, and morally routed the Skunks as well. We have a good squad of professionals, and a young manager who's still learning his trade.

We're not going to get it right straight away, or all the time for that matter, but let me assure you, if Gretna DO beat us on Saturday-and they may, they'll know DAMNED WELL they've been in a game.

Last night the boys were DIRE-that's football-it happens to every good team once in a while, but come Saturday we are the underdogs. Things will be VERY different I assure you.
mortonjag 2005-10-26 10:52:16
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 26 2005, 10:21 AM) [snapback]48523[/snapback]

Je ne crois pas que les Gretnaistes croit que ces sont Anglais. Soif Monsieur Mileson, bien sur, vraiment il est Anglais, mais de l'arrondissement de Sunderland je crois.

Which makes him a Geordie batarde-Alibi-this is a serious question, as I know you've met Monsieur Mileson.

Do you think he's a pomme de terre nette, or le diable camouflage?
mortonjag 2005-10-26 10:56:13
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Oct 26 2005, 10:38 AM) [snapback]48531[/snapback]

condascending as usual i see! Are you Salty in disguise?

You say bad performances happen to good teams once in a while, and i say we've been poor and getting away with it. Lets look at the recent history as you clearly have a short attention span and don't know a hell of a lot about football.

Raith (away) - 3 points. Poor performance, would have been punished by a team with a decent striker.

Partick (away) - 0 points. Defensively / tactically / offensively / work rate a disaster, team didn't turn up and McInally didn't take his chance to change the tactics early enough, tried to counter a team who play with 3 up and a targer man with 3 in defence, Harding spent first 45 mins marking the touch line. Could be forgiven as it was away against one of our closest rivals.

Peterhead (home) - 3 points. Another performance where we got lucky. Peterhead deserved a point at least, ripped up for arse paper by Bobby Linn. Only managed 3 points due to them missing (mcgurn getting a finger to) their late penalty.

St Mirren (away) - Excellent performance by all accounts, missed this game, but only shining light of the season so far. But no goals to show for good play.

Ayr Utd (away) - 3 points. Huffed and puffed against s***e, could have had the game wrapped up far earlier if we took our chances.
Cant be arsed going on....

Thank f*ck you muppet-take off your blinkers and stop whining. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-26 11:03:40
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Oct 26 2005, 10:17 AM) [snapback]48520[/snapback]

Ok old man, let me explain in simple terms.

Lilley was garbage last night and if he walked off of that park with his "head held high" then he should be made to spend an hour locked in a room listening to your inane pish as punishment.

Much talk of garbage and pish boozehound-as I suspected you didn't READ my post-I didn't say ANYBODY was good last night, but Vialli worked his f*cking balls off and at least LOOKED like he was trying.

If HE was garbage can you stretch your obviously limited intellect to a description of his team mates?

OOps I forgot----- huh.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-26 11:13:38
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Oct 26 2005, 10:56 AM) [snapback]48537[/snapback]

Thank f*ck you muppet-take off your blinkers and stop whining. rolleyes.gif

That you 'couldn't be arsed going on' you eejit.

All you've done is tell us all what we already(painfully) know about the season.

I was equally entitled to quote statistics-we DID beat Gretna with a spirited performance and we raised our game and gave the 'Midden' a roasting.

I've been watching the ups and downs of football for years. Teams are made up of men M4RKO, they are not machines.

Just cheer up mate-even if we don't win on Saturday, it'll be a cracking performance from the TON, or I'll buy a new zimmer!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-26 11:22:51
QUOTE(rex manning @ Oct 26 2005, 11:16 AM) [snapback]48553[/snapback]

So conceivably come the end of the seasons, teams like ourselves could start throwing games to try and bag 4th position, if their manager decides they have a better shot against the team from the 1st. Or is that just crazy talk.

It's probably 'politically incorrect' son, but it's not crazy talk.

All the craziness is in the structure-I think it's a travesty of justice that football clubs are being forced to endure the rigours of a long season, and at the end play a glorified game of Lotto!
mortonjag 2005-10-26 11:40:06
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Oct 26 2005, 11:21 AM) [snapback]48557[/snapback]

Gonna answer me one thing, are you a bloke or a burd??

You try to come across as some kind of authority on all things Morton, the majority of us have been watching the ups and downs of football for years, yet you dish out insults as if your talking to folk who have just bought their first season ticket. So gonna give it a rest eh?

M4RKO, as you very well know, chucking about insults is supposed to be all in the fun of a forum like this-FUN MATE-don't take it too seriously.

If you had read the other threads , I've already admitted that I may be turning from male to female-I promise to let you know as soon as I get the chromosome analyses back.

Seriously though, I have been watching football for too long to remember, and the older I get the more I see how players respond psychologically to various factors.

You say that the TON will get humped by Gretna, and I understand where you are coming from, but if my perception's anything to go on, it'll be no 'humping' and I wouldn't be surprised if we take three points.

AFTER WHICH, I will hopefully remain level headed, while half the posters on this forum will have us in the SPL in two seasons!

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mortonjag 2005-10-26 11:56:02
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Oct 26 2005, 11:13 AM) [snapback]48550[/snapback]

tell me you're havin' a laugh! huh.gif
correct!
What was he trying to do?
Hold the ball up? He failed
Run at the defence ? He failed
Get in the box and move into space ? He failed
Score from 3 yards? He failed

I see you prefer to spank your 'little boys' for failing, rather than praise them for trying, Super Nanny-guess that's why you ain't got a job and spend all your time spouting pish on a forum! Bet none of them left your care 'potty trained'!

I know we all get heated and disappointed at matches, but last night I went with a friend who is a 'neutral', and he thought that Lilley was one of very few TON players who was really MAKING AN EFFORT. For that I think he's entitled to hold his head high.

Super Nanny, when your 'wee boys' MAKE AN EFFORT, gonnae no gie them pelters! sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-26 12:09:36 You talk a lot of sense, and clearly have thought this out.

The only problem, though is that we'll still win matches IF we score goals. We are, on form, already able to control the midfield well, but we just haven't found the way to hit the net.

My only reservation is that Peter Weatherson CAN score goals, and IMO he should be up there -all the time-not just given 'wee shots', and then criticised before he and Andy have had a chance to make things work.

I've said before, he's been an eye-opener in defence, but do we really NEED him there?
mortonjag 2005-10-26 12:23:33 Good post-the cowshed has been getting more and more like the old firm support IMO, expecting everything to go well, only cheering and chanting WHEN things are good, and not getting behind the lads when the heads are down.

Last night the 'boos' said it all sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-26 12:28:07
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Oct 26 2005, 12:23 PM) [snapback]48588[/snapback]

I see nothing wrong with booing a team's performance at half or full time, not that I did, the team's performance only got silence from me at full time.

What I don't like is the constant cries of 'Lilley you're useless, f*** off' or 'you're s***e Millar' and several other similar shouts from the cowshed.

I respect your opinion-just don't think the boos helped the boys as correctly pointed out by the poster.
mortonjag 2005-10-26 12:34:41
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Oct 26 2005, 12:23 PM) [snapback]48586[/snapback]

I think thats a good post DOT. When we finished last season on an 8 match unbeaten run, it was based on 4-4-2. We are not going to score loads this season - it is very evident that we do not have a 20 goal striker and so we will have to focus on making ourselves hard to beat and winning ugly - 1-0, 2-1, etc.

Personally, my first choice midfield would be

Miller, Walker, McLauglin, McAllister

The front two would come from Templeman/Lilley/Walker (J)/McLaren.

Last night against Stirling, Templeman's injury (was he injured?) actually strengthened the team as we were getting murdered in midfield. I also think a back four would not have suffered nearly as much from the balls over the top of the defence.

If you really want a strong 4-4-2, and a productive midfield I still think Finlayson 'could cut it' at the back with Greacen, Harding, and McGregor.

I don't understand why young McAllister isn't moved to the right with Millar, as both McLaughlin and Walker can work the left.

Up front for me, going on current form, it's got to be Andy and Spoonsy.
mortonjag 2005-10-26 12:44:44 This is interesting-we've already got three 'non-booers' endorsing booing, because they 'understand how they feel'.

F*cksake, if I'd shouted out what I was really feeling at half time I'd have been locked up-but I was also conscious of how the players must have been feeling, so I stand by my decision to shut up and let McInally do the 'spanking'.
mortonjag 2005-10-26 12:50:11
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Oct 26 2005, 12:26 PM) [snapback]48589[/snapback]

Thank you very much, that was nice pleasant and grown up reply.

May I ask, why does my opinion on a Morton player’s performance have anything to do with me having a job or not?

You obviously believe that you have such a wonderful and blessed life that allows you to judge and condemn me for my employment status, yet you know nothing about my life or work circumstances.

I may, or may not and for whatever reason, spend more time than you feel is “normal” on a Morton forum but why does that make my opinion any less worthy than yours.

Super Nanny, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen-and by the way, you can get wee pills in the chemist for your paranoia (after you've seen the psychiatrist, that is.) !
mortonjag 2005-10-26 13:49:59
QUOTE(gretna_ed @ Oct 26 2005, 12:29 PM) [snapback]48593[/snapback]

What a pile of crap. I bet you didnt give a hoot about Brooks when yourselves and Gretna were in seperate leagues. Its only now you're in competition with Gretna for the automatic promotion spot you care. Should Morton gain promotion and Gretna dont, or vice versa, you'll go back to not caring

Oh it's 'Brooks' is it.

Nice to know that all ten of you Gretna fans are on first name terms with him.

You're entirely missing the point-you'll NEVER have a fan base at Gretna, that can have success without a 'Brooks', and it's galling for a team like Morton, and the others I've mentioned to see this farce being played out with the blessing of the SFA.
mortonjag 2005-10-26 13:51:59
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Oct 26 2005, 01:40 PM) [snapback]48638[/snapback]

Nyaaargh! You're doing my head in you arrogant fud. mad.gif

Oops-more pills required I think! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-26 13:59:21
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Oct 26 2005, 01:50 PM) [snapback]48646[/snapback]

Mortonjag, you talk s***e.

Thanks JonaTon - comments like yours don't stimulate reaction, but I'll take it as a compliment that you've made the effort to string two words together. sad.gif

QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 26 2005, 01:54 PM) [snapback]48651[/snapback]

Looks like i'm not the only one who thinks you're a total c***, mortonjag.

Ah the repartee LargsTON-makes the world go round biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-26 14:11:39
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Oct 26 2005, 02:03 PM) [snapback]48660[/snapback]

Once more Mortonjag, can I ask you stop judging me.

Do you really know that I do not already take "wee" pills from the chemist and am not actually seeing a psychiatrist.

Im not kidding your sactamonious attitude stinks.

Super Nanny I AM being serious now. I really enjoy the banter on this forum-sure I wind people up, and they take pots back at me-it's all in the fun.

You actually DO appear to be taking things personally, and if you are, and it's upsetting you, stop logging on.

People ARE entitled to their opinions, but they will inevitably be judged by them too.

In real life (remember you know nothing about me either) I'm probably anything but sanctimonious- we are only projecting personnas on this forum wink.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-26 14:19:19 I think people are being harsh on Lilley. The TON's last great revival was built round players like Evans, Cowie, Robertson, Collins and so on-guys who were certainly over the hill but by no means finished.

We are, after all, in division 2, and I think Derek will still produce for us when his form settles.
mortonjag 2005-10-26 14:24:56
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Oct 26 2005, 01:39 PM) [snapback]48635[/snapback]

I mentioned that last night. Guys like Maisano and Walker have ripped better teams than Stirling apart in previous seasons and yes, John was unfit and Walker was not suited to the team play game; but both worked magic and inspiration more often than not.

We really lacked creativity. Andy is NOT a playmaker. He is an old fashioned winger, and should be played as one. Chris Millar would be a better playmaker than Andy.

Andy McLaren is a decent player, but let's not get carried away with his ability, he is fundamental to the team, but so are the ten other players on the pitch.

Good post, and what does the old fashioned winger do-he (Andy) puts in the perfect cross to the old fashioned centre forward (has to be Spoonsy) and we score!

There five against Gretna with the new formula unsure.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-26 14:31:33
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Oct 26 2005, 02:10 PM) [snapback]48667[/snapback]

I agree that booing achieves very little in terms of motivating a team but I'm getting fed up with hearing about what the poor wee boys 'must be feeling'. Get a grip, these guys are paid professionals doing a job that they enjoy and getting paid relatively well for it. If their collective professional pride isn't enough to get them up for a game I'm quite sure nothing the Cowshed says or does will make much difference.

Last night we were made to look like a poor pub team by guys with none of the benefits our guys have. I certainly hope McInally is nailing them to the wall for the rest of the week.

I see-so there's no point in us getting BEHIND the team either, since 'nothing the Cowshed says or does will make much difference.'

Well lads lets head back to the pub for a nice big jar of Scrumpy! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-26 14:50:31 I remember that day so well-we were descending into Hampden in hordes, after cuffing Hibs at Ibrox in the semi (McGraw scoring a penalty), and we were full of optimism.

Just before kick-off 'Slim' Jim Baxter came out and started doing 'keepy-uppy' to entertain the crowd, he was just so cool and cocky, and I remember thinking-'Christ-this is different'-and sadly it was.

Still a wonderful memory though.

smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-26 14:56:07
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 26 2005, 02:20 PM) [snapback]48678[/snapback]

I could spend an era picking faults in that post but i'm going back to my bed due to nightshift.

No doubt to pick yer erse (luv wrinkly dick xxx) tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-26 15:01:44
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Oct 26 2005, 02:56 PM) [snapback]48708[/snapback]

i reckon they should go eith a back 4 for a bit of stability. and as others have touched on,our midfield needs a bit of reorganising. maybe something like:

----------------------------mcgurn------------------------------------------

finlayson-----------greacen-------------harding---------------mcgregor

mclaren------a.walker------miller---------mclaughlin------------mcallister

-----------------------------weatherson-------------------------------------

i would agree with other posters that mclaren out wide with finlayson at wingback can tend to cancel each other out, but i do see finlayson as a hard worker who does have defensive ability,so why not play him as the right back of a back 4 and give mclaren a bit of space on the wing?

i reckon all 3 of our centre mid players are good enough to be starters, but due to tactics have rarely all started in the same team, meanwhile our attackers to varying extents have been underperforming. so i say try a 5 man midfield and go with a lone striker.

i would choose peter because if we are being brutally honest, temps and lilley have not really delivered the goods so far. yes maybe its due to the teams overall play, but nevertheless, they have had their chance and disappointed. so it is time to give peter a chance.

also note that basically all 5 of the midfielders are more than capable of chipping in with a goal, so i would say im going for stability with the 4-5-1 rather than negativity...

I agree with your eleven-think Finlayson can shine if the pressure's taken off him to produce, and we've got to move Spoonsy up IMO.

Quite honestly I think you could draw the six 'forward' positions out of a hat, as none of them seems to have a settled role yet.
mortonjag 2005-10-26 15:09:14
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Oct 26 2005, 03:01 PM) [snapback]48713[/snapback]

So if I disagree with you about a Morton payer's performance I should either put up with being personally attacked for my employment status and my mental health or simply "stop logging on".
You need to take a look at yourself Mortonjag.

Super Nanny my last comments WERE serious. As it happens, in real life I have had to deal with both unemployment, AND mental health issues, and I am certainly not on this forum to genuinely offend anyone.

That does not alter my opinion that if those jibes we poke at each other on an unofficial TON forum are actually hurting you, it's decidedly YOUR problem-not mine, and you would be better not logging on.
mortonjag 2005-10-26 15:59:48
QUOTE(notmor @ Oct 25 2005, 10:13 PM) [snapback]48245[/snapback]

I was there also.

Hi Notmor-maybe that explains your name then. I remember way back-probably the Hal Stewart days-the started Notmor pools -the baby Morton lottery!
mortonjag 2005-10-26 16:10:23
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Oct 26 2005, 03:34 PM) [snapback]48737[/snapback]

So what you are saying , Tonosaurus, is that the only faults at present are that McLaren unbalances the side and that Peter Weatherson should be up front with Templeman in behind ? dry.gif

It HAS to be 4 at the back. Greacen and Harding are not capable of playing in a back 3. They would need a quality , assured and experienced sweeper playing in the centre to even have a chance of pulling it off, but they dont.

I'd play :
----------------------------------McGurn

Finlayson------------Greacen-----------Harding------------McGregor

McLaren--------------Millar--------------A. Walker---------McAllister

----------------------Weatherson

-----------------------------------------J. Walker

Guess this is a bit academic JonaTon but I agree with you except I'd play Andy as a genuine forward linking with Spoonsy-they were starting to gel at Starks Park, and I'd definitely have young McAllister on the right wide of Chris Millar, with Jason on the bench, and McLaughlin in.
mortonjag 2005-10-26 16:18:28 I suppose we are all victims of generalisation, and I don't think London represents England any more than Paris does France.

I spent a lovely holiday in the far S.East of France some years ago-a totally non-tourist area where they spoke no English.

I can't speak highly enough of their friendliness, and sense of fun, and they DEFINITELY knew the difference between Scotland and England.

The lovely wee lass in the 'vigneron' explained in broken English that one of her teachers had been Scottish-a Mr McDonald- and asked 'Do you know him?'.

Have never tired of recalling that (true) story.
mortonjag 2005-10-26 16:32:47
QUOTE(smitz @ Oct 26 2005, 03:46 PM) [snapback]48745[/snapback]

I think this posts title is just tipical of this board in the past wee while! As soon as someone has had a bad game or "not as well as expected" thats it, run home and post a comment on the board for him to be dropped.

If everyone in the team had Millars engine and the willingness to win then we would be top of the league!

We should get behind the fcuking team and stop all this bitching! We have been the quietest ive seen us in a long time, started at Peterhead, then the 2 weeks off, after that i thought, right get back into it AGARO! but no change, the games are unusually quiet for the amount of support we have.

Lets get to Gretna in full voice this Sat and let them know were past the "poor" form and are there for the 3 points!

Couldn't agree more. I honestly think the attacks on Chris Millar are particularly unfair, and based on personal issues rather than performance.


He's still young and adds a bit of class to the side, and he 'rides' tackles rather than being a 'shirker'-after all he's NOT Roy Keane.

His marking is first class, he works tirelessly for the team, and last season he saved our bacon more than once.

My brother was at Love St.-he is not a TON fan-and he thought Millar was the best player on the pitch.
mortonjag 2005-10-26 19:19:20
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 26 2005, 02:44 PM) [snapback]48697[/snapback]

Gretna have got 'Livingston' written all over them. It's the 100 or 200 hundred genuine fans I feel sorry for. Success is great but it has to based on sensible finances, that's why I believe in a turnover ralated salary cap.
I have no idea if Brooks is a first, second or third-rate businessman but he's got more money then I have. biggrin.gif

I agree-if Mileson IS the clean potato, he can keep this roller coaster going for goodness knows how long without income from the fans, but where does it lead-Champions League at Raydale-I think that at that level some common sense would prevail.

If Mr Mileson has plans to 'emigrate' his success to a bigger and better stadium, where is it going to be, and will those good people of Gretna be able/willing to travel?

I think that when the 'honeymoon' period is over, and he starts to grapple with those difficulties, Gretna FC will just get dumped unceremoniously, and in no time at all be back where their geography destines them-nowhere!
mortonjag 2005-10-26 19:30:59
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Oct 26 2005, 07:07 PM) [snapback]48871[/snapback]

Perhaps you would tell me what difference it would have made last night? Frankly I find your myopic view of supporting Morton embarassing but if you are happy to clap like a trained seal irrespective of the teams performance then so be it. Some of us however have slightly higher expectations.

TaunTon, you're one to talk about myopia-you apparently can't even read properly.

Where did I say I was happy with last night's performance?

There's no need to go in the huff because I picked out an illogicality in your post.

I've no idea what difference some decent vocal support would have made in the second half last night, but I'm damned sure it wouldn't have done any harm.
mortonjag 2005-10-26 19:38:10
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Oct 26 2005, 07:25 PM) [snapback]48882[/snapback]

I think manky's basic point is correct and that the league has lost some of it's meaning this season. No doubt the play offs will be exciting for some but that's only likely to be 2 games.

I have no problem with Milsons and his millions, its his money and he can spend it however he likes. Some seem to forget that Dougie has effectively done the same for us and our resources are as far ahead of most of our competitors as Gretna's are ahead of us.

Gretna are not unbeatable but realistically they should walk this league with the experience and depth of squad that they have. We on the other hand have become experts in snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

If Douglas Rae had anything approaching Mileson's money, we could be sitting profitably in the SPL right now-he deserves a medal, but is only a small local businessman with a passion for a team he's supported all his life, and his resources are finite.

Surely the point is that if the TON do get into the higher echelons they will be potentially self sufficient-that just can't be said of Gretna.
mortonjag 2005-10-26 20:49:37
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Oct 26 2005, 07:50 PM) [snapback]48898[/snapback]

who cares? why are you working yourself into a self-righteous frenzy about some other club's chairman? why do you feel so sorry for the couple of hundred 'real' gretna fans?

if you want to bitch about the unfairness of scottish football's inequalities, i can think of two clubs who deserve it more.

gretna running away with the league is a question of footballing talent - us potentially losing out on promotion due to the greed and stupidity of the few men who run the scottish league is not.

All THREE situations are similar, IMO, and that's what I resent-you may (as I do) dislike the Old Firm, but they are successful and established businesses which are profitable, or potentially so, and have strong fan bases.

Gretna 'running away with the league' IS a question of footballing talent, I agree, but it's talent bought monopolistically by one man to satisfy his own ends, which, in the long run, I believe, are not in the interests of the Gretna supporters.

I don't really see what's self righteous or frenzied about stating that!

mortonjag 2005-10-26 21:12:48
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Oct 26 2005, 07:58 PM) [snapback]48904[/snapback]

What you said was that you supressed your feelings because you empathised with what the boys may be feeling. What I said is get a grip.

This is an internet forum and the idea of getting in the huff with another poster is laughable. I'm sorry that however interesting you think your posts are they don't quite manage to get me too emotional.

Last week you were bleating on about the Cowshed not being supportive and remembering the good old days when everything was rosy. This week your bleating on about the Cowshed not being supportive enough so at least your consistent, if somewhat predictable. Perhaps occasionally you should have a look at what's happening on the field rather than concentrating on the terrace atmosphere.

But carry on supporting the way you want

Fair enough-and I will-but I'm not the only one who's noticed the lack of vocal support, and I'm not just referring to last night.

I entirely agree that the team is not ENTITLED to expect us to 'clap like seals' when we really feel like 'kicking arse' TaunTon', but equally, I strongly believe that a bit of support is more likely to turn things round than hearing folks 'booing' when you already feel dispirited.

You claim not to get emotive on the forum, so why use terms like 'bleating', just because you disagree with a perfectly valid opinion? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-26 21:17:19
QUOTE(thedonn @ Oct 26 2005, 07:42 PM) [snapback]48897[/snapback]

totally agree he is an arrogant fud who is more than likely in love with lilley

Ah, the comments of two eloquent gentlemen! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-26 21:26:05
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Oct 26 2005, 08:59 PM) [snapback]48956[/snapback]

you are getting a bit shrill about something that doesn't affect us directly.

what does affect us is this stupid system which could condemn us to another season in this horrible, pishy division.

C'mon man-'doesn't affect us directly!!!

If Mileson hadn't wakened up one day and thought-'Oh, just for a wee change, I'll buy myself a football club', this thread would never have started.

I entirely agree with your feelings about the 'play-offs'-I too resent stupidity-but stupidity (combined with a multi-million fortune) that hampers our chances of escaping the Scott legacy, and makes Dougie Rae's input look piffling-yes-that DOES make me f*cking mad.
mortonjag 2005-10-27 06:46:45
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Oct 26 2005, 09:49 PM) [snapback]48999[/snapback]

I used the word bleating because it accurately describes what I think of your perfectly valid opinion. As I said last week I have watched Morton since the early 60's and at no time has the Cowshed not had it's fair share of moaners and groaners.

In many ways the moans are more justified now as in relative terms we have never had so many advantages over our competitors. No sensible Morton fan expects to win every game but most do expect effort and commitment. Sadly last night we showed precious little of either.

If a fellow Ton fan expressing a 'valid opinion' can be 'accurately described' as bleating, TaunTon, can I ask you to stop 'gibbering' as I'm getting fed up having to ask my wee pal on the left to translate? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-27 07:20:01
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Oct 27 2005, 01:22 AM) [snapback]49117[/snapback]

So, what did Mr Blunkett think of the newly refurbished Cappielow?

MortonJag, you may well be more eloquent and intelligent than many of the posters on here, but you also appear to be a lot more arrogant as well.

People have different views on different things. Boozehound was not rude to you at first, and you laid into him. Same with several other people.

You're starting to come across as a bit of a pompous cnt.

It's nice to be nice, mind that!

Donga, you've just clarified things for me.

You've got torn into me and suggested I'm a pompous c*nt, but you've qualified that, and made an intelligent suggestion at the end, and that's 'fair do's'.

I'm not on this forum for anything other than a bit of fun and banter, and I don't want to GENUINELY offend anybody.

If, as I suggested to Super Nanny, people ARE offended, they can log off, or put me on ignore.

At least what I say is often a wee bit controversial, and it gets reactions, which I think keeps the forum alive.

If you want me to adopt an additional personna, I'll happily appear in the guise of some mealy mouthed sycophantic mediator! wink.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-27 08:54:02
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 26 2005, 10:00 PM) [snapback]49017[/snapback]

You'd have to ask mortonjag's wife about that smile.gif

Mrs Mortonjag has been extremely happy with most of Chris's performances on the park, LargsTON-says she much prefers the subtle approach to the 'Wham bang-Thank you Mam' stuff, and sends her home much more satisfied after the encounter. dry.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-27 09:16:44 Your post is refreshing, and I hope you really enjoy a REWARDING trip up this weekend! (Well-not as far up as usual!)

I disagree with a couple of your ponts-particularly your comparison of Kev and Jim. I confess I'm not a Finlayson fan when he plays in his current role, but both boys are IMO, being played out of position.

McAllister is not a stylish footballer, but he's extremely fit, very incisive, and as you say, totally right footed, so what the hell's he doing languishing on the left.

Kevin is the archetypal workhorse, never gives up, checks back, covers his mates, and tackles well, but he is totally unproductive, and IMO never a wing back. I think he would make a superb 'sweeper' behind a back three of Greacen, Harding, and McGregor.

Another point I dispute is that Spoonsy is too slow. The reason the goals dried up was simply that he went 'off the boil' but as you know he's now back on form. Let's face it, speed around the box isn't everything-think of Andy Ritchie- and Peter can certainly knock them in.

Finally, as both you and Donga point out, Dougie Rae must be having many sleepless nights. From my viewpoint he's had rotten bad luck with the Gretna thing arriving on his doorstep along with 'play-offs', just when we HAVE got a squad that SHOULD take us up. If we fail to gain promotion this season, and he feels he has to 'walk away', I for one will respect his decision.
mortonjag 2005-10-27 09:46:24
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Oct 27 2005, 09:22 AM) [snapback]49152[/snapback]

At the game on Tuesday I was trying to figure out where I knew the ref (M. Tumility) from, then it dawned on me, he was the ref we had on Sat.

Just wondering if there are any rules that dictate if refs can ref two consecutive games involving one team?

Don't know the answer, but guess it's a bit like the Medical Profession-where professional standards and impartiality are paramount, so it shouldn't matter hoe often the same 'expert' is involved.

Mind you you CAN change your doctor! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-27 10:10:00
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Oct 27 2005, 09:54 AM) [snapback]49169[/snapback]

Hmm, well will still be up a bit.

Looks as though the terracing will be round the side though. Doh!

Oh well. Just couldn't put up with that terracing behind the goal again down there - sounds as though things are changing at their ground anyway.

I'm going with my brother and Monkey as always.

It's sad to think that the last time we were at Gretna, it was quite idyllic, a glorious day, trouble free run down, and directions to Raydale from some charming locals.

Remember the good banter when we we queueing for the ONE turnstyle, which took ages (while the lady put our money in a wee bag).

I remember we were so close to the goals that we were exchanging jokes with Craig Coyle at one point.

AND we got a result!!

I left with a warm feeling of benevolence towards Gretna-and not just for giving us the points!

How things have changed.

Mileson (my pet monster), may well just be a poor misguided, self indulgent soul, but like the situation where parents foist their ambitions on unwilling or ungifted children, I'm afraid "Daddy doesn't always know best" and I just think things would have been better left alone.
Time will tell. sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-27 15:34:21
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 27 2005, 01:11 PM) [snapback]49228[/snapback]

Well guys, I've just been invited to the boardroom after the game. Need to decide between my normal Ton '74 replica top or a shirt and Morton tie, not sure what the dress code is in these lofty places. I REALLY hope we win this one.

Don't think it really matters what you wear, Alibi, as long as you've got a hanky in your pocket.

If they win, you'll need it.

If we win, Mr Mileson'll need it.

And if Alexander gets into the boardroom, irrespective of the score-he'll be greeting about something!! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-27 15:49:17
QUOTE(gretna_ed @ Oct 27 2005, 10:38 AM) [snapback]49185[/snapback]

What wild spending? The total amount we've spent on transfer fees in our 60 year history probably amounts to what you spent on Templeman. Yes we may be full time but the back bone of the side would still be at Gretna if we were part time ie Baldachinno, Birch, Skelton, McGuffie, Townsley and Mathieson

I thought the backbone was an essential part of the anatomy !!! You are just trying to make excuses now for Mileson's profligacy.

Don't bother to reply till you've attached last month's salary bill at Gretna.

You've got some f*cking cheek to slate big Templeman who's on 30K a year, and that's far more than the large majority of our squad can even aspire to mad.gif

It's one thing admitting that your success is purely down to a Diddy team getting a muddle headed Sugar Daddy.

It's a damned sight different suggesting that you are an already successful backbone with just a few wee appendages. Aye right biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-27 16:20:18
QUOTE(Magic Mathie @ Oct 27 2005, 03:09 PM) [snapback]49253[/snapback]

My evil boss (A Celtic supporter) has printed off pictures from Tuesday night and a match report and stuck them on the noticeboard...and I've just come back from the printer to be greeted by the Stirling Albion site on my PC.

Anyone got any truly truly evil and subtle ways to get my own back?

I've printed off the Artmedia pictures but it had no effect.

Be patient-the 'Tims' are worse losers than us. Just wait 'til the next time they get gubbed, (preferably by the other lot), then REALLY rub his nose in it.
mortonjag 2005-10-27 16:32:21 I think the point's been well made. Those three points on Tuesday were vital, and frankly, I think we just didn't give the Binos the respect they deserved.

If it had been a mid-week game against Partick or Gretna I imagine things would have been very different.

Hopefully the lesson's been learned.
mortonjag 2005-10-28 09:02:13
QUOTE(hoopsforever @ Oct 27 2005, 08:45 PM) [snapback]49403[/snapback]

Of course we can. But we must show more commitment than in recent games. I've seen both games against Gretna this season and see nothing special in them. Yes, they are a good side but I really don't think they're as good as people make them out to be. Like most teams, they have good individuals like Deuchar, Bingham, Graham etc, but so do we.

I really believe that a lot of teams in this league are beat BEFORE they play Gretna because they're intimidated by the reputation. It's like Chelsea in the Premiership. Everyone says they'll walk the league so most opposition players feel intimidated.

Take to the park with the right belief and NO team is unbeatable, just look at the SPL. Hearts believe they can give any team a good seeing to, that's why they never gave up against Celtic, even when they went a goal down.

Go on boys...make us proud. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Good posts from you-liked your team assessments.

IMO the best thing that happened to us this week was getting gubbed by the 'minnows'.

Now we're back to earth with a bang.

We've already beaten Gretna this season-coming from behind to do it!

They are not invincible, and I hope to hell they go into the game tomorrow with the complacent attitude we had on Tuesday-doubt it though.

Either way, football being the strange game it is, I just CAN'T believe we won't be up for it, and wouldn't at all be surprised if we grab the three points and regain the credibility we deserve.
mortonjag 2005-10-28 09:18:43
QUOTE(hoopsforever @ Oct 27 2005, 07:56 PM) [snapback]49378[/snapback]

Thanks all those who replied to my original post. I've taken on board all your comments. This is gonna be fun. le_chien_manquee, maybe the term "recent years" was a bit vague, but I assure you, I've been going to Cappielow regularly since the mid seventies. What I meant was that everytime we've had a bit of success, it's come from playing a good passing game and usually, our best passers of the ball have come from midfield and I include the players of the last few years. I would also like to respond to the "defence debate". I DO think Ryan Harding is potentially a great player, but I do also think that David McGregor is a decent central defender, although admittedly it's probably not his best position. Curiously, I thought his best game this season was against Peterhead when Greacen was suspended, especially when he moved in to the middle of the back three. As I said in my original post, we do have the players and it's just a case of getting the right blend and making sure the commitment and concentration is there.

Thanks all again.

Most folks are now talking about new signings.

I think Jim Mc has achieved a lot with the present squad, even if we are a wee bit 'off the boil' right now.

What DOES concern me is that he (and Martin Clark) seem very defence and midfield orientated.

Everybody's talking about teams from the past, the BEST EVER BY FAR Ton squad had a mediocre back six, but with Adamson, Stevenson, McGraw, Caven, and Wilson up front we just ran away with it-a bit like Gretna last season-sorry for that!

The best form of defence, IMO, is attack and the management really need to sort this out presto!
mortonjag 2005-10-28 09:32:56
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Oct 28 2005, 09:08 AM) [snapback]49525[/snapback]

There's a gem of a saying by Henry Ford:

"Think you can't,
think you can,
ether way you'll be right"

I think that's what we need on Saturday, desire and belief, it's been missing a bit lately.

If we have the right attitude I feel we have the players to beat Gretna, and we can help the cause by giving all our players 100% encouragement right from the start.

Nice one DOT, and remember-

'Lies, damned lies, and statistics'!

In terms of potential I genuinely believe we have a better squad than Alexander's rag-bag mercenaries-no matter what the league table suggests.

C'mon lads. Make them choke on their pay pokes! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-28 09:45:13 I, frankly, don't think it matters that much, within reason, what our starting eleven is.

Before the Stirling game you would have expected that a way under strength squad would have 'walked it' and look what happened.

So often in football, I've seen teams turn their form round in a week and raise a few eyebrows, and it's almost always down to attitude rather than raw talent.

I know some of the posters have been 'taking the piss' with their selections, but there's a grain of sense in it.

If we go into this game tomorrow with the right attitude (team and fans), we can wipe the smile of Alexander's overpaid face! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-28 10:16:12
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Oct 28 2005, 10:07 AM) [snapback]49541[/snapback]

Could get used to that. smile.gif

mad.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-28 10:35:23 To "Money, money, money"



Mileson's lot are funny,

Loads of money,

But they canny sing rolleyes.gif

Probably too heavy for our lot, but how about a resounding chorus of


Who's sorry now at full time? (I HOPE)
mortonjag 2005-10-28 10:48:20
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Oct 28 2005, 10:42 AM) [snapback]49561[/snapback]

I now realise I definitely made three separate posts, but they've all appeared on the same post. Can that be possible?

Think 'Can'

Think 'Cant' !
mortonjag 2005-10-28 10:56:33 How good is your team now Mr Mileson,
Yes YOU with the swank pony tail.
You've wasted a fortune on this rubbish-
Next season they'll all be for sale!

To 'How much is that doggie in the window?'

Sorry forgot the WOOF WOOF at the end!
mortonjag 2005-10-28 11:07:57
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Oct 28 2005, 10:40 AM) [snapback]49559[/snapback]

It seems lately that whatever Jim McInally does, someone will critise him.
We've all called for different players and formations to be tried, including myself.

Jim's tried just about everything we've asked for in recent weeks and now we're critisising him for not knowing his best eleven, while at the same time asking for more changes.

Perhaps the time has come to realise the reason Jim's been trying to change things is the same reason we have been asking for change, to see if it will improve things and get the results we need. He was playing the same eleven every week and the results were coming, Jim was happy and so were we. It was only when we hit a sticky patch that changes were made.

Now that we all realise how difficult a job Jim has can we get right behind him and the players, and have faith that Jim will sort it out and wee will find form again very soon, hopefully tomorrow.

DOT, I got my nose in a poke earlier this week for daring to say we should not boo, and should get behind the boys when the heads are down and they're playing badly.

I agree with what you say, but don't be too upset when the girners come on!
mortonjag 2005-10-28 13:03:58 Just a few weeks ago on the forum there was a strong lobby for Jim playing for the Scotland under 21 team, but everything's gone quiet.

Jim has lost form lately but I think it's a shame as IMO he's played out of position on the left.

Despite not being a classy player, he's so fit that he gets past defenders easily- then finds himself having to turn back inside to cross the ball, by which time the defence has had time to regroup.

I know I'm repeating myself but I think he and Chris Millar should share right midfield-I would expect that to be more productive.

Incidentally, I noticed Jim's 20th birthday is next week.
mortonjag 2005-10-28 13:26:33
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 28 2005, 08:55 AM) [snapback]49518[/snapback]

I also put a SCO sticker on my car - not officially recognised I suspect but I've never been pulled up for it in France or elsewhere. I refuse to have a GB sticker on my car. The only negative comments have been from the odd English person but they think GB and England are exactly the same so to them it's perfectly logical to have SCO on my car.

What I don't understand is people who have ECOSSE stickers - I can see the point driving in France but why do people use them to go to Germany or Italy?

It annoys me that in my local Halfords you can buy GB stickers, Ecosse ones (but garish, with tartan or thistles etc on them) and a variety of England stickers, but no SCO stickers. I blame central purchasing.

Thinly disguised Anglophobia Alibi-incidentally, do you drive a (quasi) British car-that seems to help if you go abroad.

I was thinking of putting SCAPA on mine (Scottish and Proudly Anglophobe)! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-28 13:31:24
QUOTE(Doddie @ Oct 28 2005, 01:15 PM) [snapback]49610[/snapback]

Who would play on the left then?

Depends what you mean, Doddie-I know we are very short of guys who can play left AND overlap-I'll probably get crucified for even suggesting this, but if Chris and Jim were on the right, I think Andy is versatile enough to be a makeshift NO 11, and McLaughlin and Walker are both comfortable in left midfield.
mortonjag 2005-10-28 13:39:57
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Oct 28 2005, 01:14 PM) [snapback]49608[/snapback]

We can but it could be a struggle. McInally has to to pull the rabbit out of the hat in terms of his tactics tomorrow. We need to show that we are NOT losing our ability to defeat the bigger teams.

BIGGER? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-28 14:05:47
QUOTE(Doddie @ Oct 28 2005, 01:36 PM) [snapback]49617[/snapback]

McAllister Millar Walker McLaughlin

That what u mean?

Or

Millar McAlister McLaughlin Walker

Don't think it would matter that much quite honestly.

I saw Jim playing right midfield for the reserves when John Maisano was playing well for us. Jim was only 17, and I remember thinking that when he matured he might not be as silky as John but would be far more incisive from that position.

Wee Chris wouldn't be lost playing wider right in a less physical role, and he is capable of good crosses into the box.

McLaughlin and Walker both look strongest playing through the middle, but if Andy was available on the left, with say McGregor moving up to support midfield I think that formation might work-but I'm getting carried away-I still think Jim is played out of position!
mortonjag 2005-10-28 14:35:58 Guess it all depends so much on your age, social circumstances, family or lack of, etc.

To be honest, if the weather's good, I'd have a holiday in Scotland any day-I love the Hebrides, Arran, Cowal, and the East Neuk of Fife in particular.

Best foreign holiday I had with the kids was in Jutland of all places (though the sun shone for a full two weeks which I gather is unusual)
mortonjag 2005-10-28 14:45:37
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 27 2005, 04:27 PM) [snapback]49286[/snapback]

I hope at some time he snaps back at a commentator about that. If we all objected, eventually they might take notice.

Don't worry while they're choking on their strawberries and cream at Wimbledon next summer, they'll be pulling Murray's forged English Birth Certificate out of their designer handbags to show off to unsuspecting foreign guests!
mortonjag 2005-10-28 15:01:36 Was being nosey and discovered in Wilkipedia (up to date) that Gretna has a population of 1200, but there are plans to build a 6000 seater stadium to SPL standards if a suitable site and planning consent can be obtained.

The good people of Inverclyde who flow to Scapa each week may be surprised to learn that the latest official population of Kilmacolm is nearing 4000.

But don't let Mileson hear a whisper of it. The man obviously has an eye to the main chance! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-28 15:38:39
QUOTE(gretna_ed @ Oct 28 2005, 03:15 PM) [snapback]49651[/snapback]

You might to check some better sources as Gretna's population according to the 1991 Census was approx 2800. In the 14 years since then there have probably been about 300 new houses built. Although it wont really matter what the population of Gretna is when we merge with Carlisle. Mon Borders FC

Official figure for 2001 census was 2705-sorry about the Wilkipedia figure-so if your details for 1991 are right the population trend has had a downward spiral-just like the one that's going to start on your glorified village park tomorrow! tongue.gif

QUOTE(gretna_ed @ Oct 28 2005, 03:26 PM) [snapback]49656[/snapback]

There wont be a Gretna after the merger, rumour also has the club crest will be Milesons face and a big pound sign. Also heard if a player wants to sign for Borders FC they have to change their middle name to "Isn't Brooks Mileson a really great guy who in no way shafted either Gretna or Carlisle"
Although it is possible that that rumour was made up after too much Moonshine while working out how to play a banjo with 6 fingers

Monkey wants to know how many fingers a banjo normally has sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-28 15:46:41
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 28 2005, 03:34 PM) [snapback]49662[/snapback]

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How many fools were advocating that?

Funny LargsTON, how I am the one that gets accused of arrogance!

I personally DON'T think Jim is at international standard-may never be-but it's very discourteous to label your fellow posters 'fools', just because they've been as enthusiastic about McAlister as you have about 'SUPER KEV'-noticed he played a blinder on Tuesday when we most needed him! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-28 15:55:41 Chins up guys-I really hope it isn't true (maybe a cunning ploy at this late stage), but it would force Jim McInally to play Spoonsy up front without having to make excuses for it, and IMO, he's just the man to wipe the smile off the 'Village People's faces. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-28 16:03:32
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 28 2005, 03:58 PM) [snapback]49682[/snapback]

But he's not very fast. Good player but I reckon if we play the right tactics he'll crumble.

Aye- tell him before the match that Mileson's filed for bankruptcy! blink.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-28 16:15:14
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Oct 28 2005, 04:03 PM) [snapback]49690[/snapback]

At least with all ticket the imbeciles at the one turnstile will probably get a fcking move on for a change.

Get there early...

Exactly Donga-it's THAT kind of thing that really 'gets on my tits' about the whole Gretna 'Fairytale'.

They're happy to lap up all the Kudos, and tell you about their wonderful achievements, but when they get a crowd that would hardly fill the Hampden lavvy, it takes about an hour to let them in! mad.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-28 16:20:22
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Oct 28 2005, 04:16 PM) [snapback]49703[/snapback]

anyone??

Don't care as long as nobody wears dungarees and wellies or they'll get put through the wrong turnstyle! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-28 16:29:18
QUOTE(gretna_ed @ Oct 28 2005, 04:25 PM) [snapback]49712[/snapback]

Theres an easier test than that. If you try to pay with turnips you have to go through the home turnstyle

OK mate-will cabbages do-like your defence? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-28 17:29:16
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Oct 28 2005, 05:07 PM) [snapback]49743[/snapback]

Adam is the best right back in the squad, he proved this at TFS.

However Finlayson is the most consistent player we have.

Apart from McGurn and Spoonsy.
mortonjag 2005-10-28 17:32:35
QUOTE(gretna_ed @ Oct 28 2005, 04:22 PM) [snapback]49708[/snapback]

Thats believable rolleyes.gif Liquid assets of £100 million another £250 million tied up in various companies. I'm not sure even big Degsy would fall for that

And he can't even get a decent haircut-what a plonker! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-28 17:46:26
QUOTE(gretna_ed @ Oct 28 2005, 05:39 PM) [snapback]49765[/snapback]

No turnips only although with the revelation that McLaren might not make it we wont have to hide the opium

Cheap and nasty Ed, IMO-but I suppose should we expect that from the Gretna DOPE!

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mortonjag 2005-10-28 17:50:33
QUOTE(gretna_ed @ Oct 28 2005, 05:42 PM) [snapback]49770[/snapback]

I'm sure his response to that would be "and how much are you worth?"

Which would be entirely predictable from a guy who worships God-oh and Money (in any order he finds more convenient) ! huh.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-28 22:07:15
QUOTE(gretna_ed @ Oct 28 2005, 05:52 PM) [snapback]49775[/snapback]

I've never touched drugs in my life, I'm not weak willed like McLaren

The other guys have said it all Ed-I'm just back, and probably your Mummy has already tucked you up in your cosy wee Gretna bed after a big reassuring cuddle, but if you're still up-get a life you parochial wee c*nt. Andy's obviously got two more balls than you, AND understands the nightmare of dealing with an addictive personality.
mortonjag 2005-10-28 22:14:26
QUOTE(thedonn @ Oct 28 2005, 10:12 PM) [snapback]49863[/snapback]

dont know about that but do think its time to bench him

OK donn-you go first and I'll watch! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-28 22:17:02
QUOTE(princessTON @ Oct 28 2005, 10:10 PM) [snapback]49862[/snapback]

yes we can! and we will! 2-0!!

That's ma girl-right attitude-get it right up them I say! smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-28 22:21:58
QUOTE(thedonn @ Oct 28 2005, 10:10 PM) [snapback]49861[/snapback]

ive just watched the video of the seconed goal and i dont think finlayson crapped the tackle just got caught wrong footed leading with his left foot, was a bit unlucky

The way I saw it he just mistimed the tackle-I think Kev could play a sweeper role tomorrow, and pick up any loose balls, allowing the other three to man-mark properly, and prevent a repeat of the Partick fiasco.
mortonjag 2005-10-28 22:34:08 I agree entirely Inver Ton that slowing the game would be a retrograde step.

I went to the American football at Hampden a while back, and was bored to tears-almost greeting with frustration at the constant delays.

What I DO think would be fair though, would be to allow video evidence to be assessed if a genuinely contentious situation has occurred.

I know I'm maybe a bit 'off the wall' with this, but say for example we got into playoffs at the end of this season, and missed promotion because of a disputed penalty.

The implications for the club would be disastrous, and if Video evidence clearly showed that an injustice had been served, something-I'm not going to suggest what-could presumably be done to rectify the situation.
mortonjag 2005-10-28 22:46:38
QUOTE(princessTON @ Oct 28 2005, 10:38 PM) [snapback]49880[/snapback]

people shood stop bein so negative! we should b gettin behind the team, and sayin that we will win! and we will! smile.gif

Couldn't agree more.

I'm as guilty-probably more guilty-than most on this forum for talking about planning and team line-ups etc., but the truth is that we've already beaten that lot this season, and with a bit of belief (and remember they won't even HEAR their own fans), there is no reason why we can't gub them
mortonjag 2005-10-28 22:50:44
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Oct 28 2005, 10:46 PM) [snapback]49885[/snapback]

In fact I am gutted, my ticket for tomorrow has fallen through. It was really my own fault for not confirming my availability until late this afternoon. That is the pressure of married life and the prospect of being out of the house for the whole day. Whoever, put the fixture list together wants shot (Partick, Raith & Gretna away in the one month). Anyway, ho-hum.

Here’s hoping for a victory and that the team get the full backing of the support. One interesting outcome will be reviewing the different opinions from the game. I am always amazed by the difference in opinions. What are the chances of a balanced report? I wonder if there are any out there who are up to the challenge?

It's your wife who wants shot mate-she's the one who should be 'On her Tod'! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-28 22:56:42 NewTon -the pun WAS appreciated, but guess you touched a tender spot with your choice of player-wee Chris IMO gets enough pelters from arseholes who for some reason dislike HIM-not his play. sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-28 23:01:00
QUOTE(Davie @ Oct 28 2005, 10:58 PM) [snapback]49894[/snapback]

Phone, e-mail, who gives a s***, you are still only listening to someones opinion.

And no, I wouldn't like an old man to be phoning my good self blink.gif

I knew it was a pun, but it was a very s***e one, that's all.

Go back to bed wink.gif

Is NewTon (the old man) on the night shift Davie? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-28 23:10:38
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Oct 28 2005, 11:08 PM) [snapback]49900[/snapback]

It's late morning where he is... so I doubt it laugh.gif

How many beers have you had you muppet-that's exactly the point I was making? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-28 23:19:06 William Wallace was born in Elderslie, (only a swordslength from the place of emergence of that equally famous justice fighter-Mr Gilmour/erstwhile referee/now linesman par excellence), and unless my computation is erroneous was obviously a Midden supporter.

Why all youse history bigwigs are getting uptight about a skunk beats me!
mortonjag 2005-10-28 23:25:33
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Oct 28 2005, 11:20 PM) [snapback]49911[/snapback]

Here you go... EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2005-10-28 23:36:50 [quote name='ThornTON' date='Oct 28 2005, 11:13 PM' post='49904']
Eh? You must speak a different language from every one else then!
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Just about to enlighten you ThornTON, but NewTon beat me to it, so while I'm on your picture fascinates me-who is the fanny holding the cup? C'mon-don't be shy!!! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-28 23:40:46 Honor mate-the excuses are wearing thin, and we're doing our best-barefoot and pregnant I say! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-28 23:45:18 Jesus Christ-those guys ARE serious-check the other thread-Henry Ford and all that History is Bunk-(unless you've got a vested interest)! sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-28 23:51:57 I was heading off to bed early in preparation for the most important game of the season-arguably-when I thought-'This forum is as dull as dishwater tonight'.

Any ideas to cheer me up-insults, vulgarities, dirty downloads-jist ennyfing!!!!! sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-29 00:00:03
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Oct 28 2005, 11:57 PM) [snapback]49939[/snapback]

I hate Fridays 2 . Was thinking of going out but a chioice between going to Word up and staying in wasnt a hard one to make

What the hell's 'Word up' Scott?
mortonjag 2005-10-29 00:04:50
QUOTE(nutty @ Oct 28 2005, 11:47 PM) [snapback]49935[/snapback]

No you have never touched anything.
Why ?
Simple cos you are........the VILLAGE PEOPLE..
INTERBREDS ?......... LIKE HOVIS ONLY ..........TASTIER.

Wasting your time Nutty-He's obviously sound asleep, and having a wet dream about Dr. Deuchar's treble tomorrow-sad, sad b*stard-oops-can you have a wet dream with no balls?! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-29 00:07:21 Fuxake THEY ARE SERIOUS!
mortonjag 2005-10-29 00:11:31 Ann Widdicombe's tits would put that lot in the shade-literally!! smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-29 00:15:56
QUOTE(ryan_clark @ Oct 29 2005, 12:10 AM) [snapback]49950[/snapback]

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Ryan, glad you enjoyed the joke mate, but what's that other joke (CLUE-GREEN AND WHITE) doing on a TON forum?
mortonjag 2005-10-29 00:21:36 Talk about persistence- Bruce and that f****ng spider, I suppose--and they haven't even got the decency to tell me to f*ck off!
mortonjag 2005-10-29 00:24:51
QUOTE(ryan_clark @ Oct 29 2005, 12:17 AM) [snapback]49957[/snapback]

Celtics ma favourite team but a like the ton too mellow.gif

You're either a f*cking wind up merchant or a naive wee boy-either way-good luck- and f*ck the Tims, oh sorry AND the HUNS biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-29 00:28:15 JEESUS F*CK!!!!!
mortonjag 2005-10-29 00:30:53 Ta Scott-you'd never have known by the title-good decision I think-are you off to Gretna tomorrow?
mortonjag 2005-10-29 00:36:14
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Oct 29 2005, 12:30 AM) [snapback]49970[/snapback]

I don't get the maths one.

Tho' that wouldn't be surprising if I were sober. And I'm not smile.gif

Neither am I Laura, but just checked the calculator and he's right.

If you believe calculators that is! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-29 00:43:04
QUOTE(ryan_clark @ Oct 29 2005, 12:14 AM) [snapback]49953[/snapback]

Get it up you laugh.gif

Did you see his free kick smile.gif

Is the 'funny farm' forum down at the moment son-away and pester the Skunks or something.
mortonjag 2005-10-29 00:54:03
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Oct 29 2005, 12:46 AM) [snapback]49982[/snapback]

a medical degree without a calculator. my faith in the nhs just keeps on rising.

If Laura's at all calculating, she'll give the NHS a body swerve, and get into the Private Sector-altruism sucks! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-29 00:58:18
QUOTE(Chicken Soup @ Oct 29 2005, 12:52 AM) [snapback]49987[/snapback]

Quite the opposite, Chris gets a lot of stick for his unbelievably s***ty play. He gets no stick for his personality because he is a nice guy.

And clearly, his niceness is in inverse proportion to your perception of his ability! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-29 01:09:45
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 29 2005, 12:42 AM) [snapback]49977[/snapback]

I think you have missed the point. It was GIVEN to Wallace.

By your logic we can't give anything to anybody to keep unless we write their name and address on it laugh.gif

On the moral obligation you may have a point.

Plus, I'm going to bed,as you are getting boring. I hope you were on the wind up or you are an extremely pedantic Unionist tongue.gif
And you can F***OFF too tongue.gif

I hope you sad b*stards HAVE finally wound it up for tonight.

General nonsense-sure-but if you want to knock f*ck out of each other over something so inconsequential, when tomorrow's game with Gretna is the only thing important in modern history-why don't you square up to each other at an appropriate venue (perhaps the nearest Punch and Judy show)? biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-29 01:23:51 Christ all f*cking mighty-you guys take the biscuit. Eat your hearts out-Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-29 01:26:50
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Oct 29 2005, 01:17 AM) [snapback]50006[/snapback]

NewTon I didn't scroll down the rest of your 1st post, wouldn't happen to say left back....on the bench would it? dry.gif

Scroll-don't ask stupid questions, you Fanny! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-29 01:35:42
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Oct 29 2005, 01:29 AM) [snapback]50016[/snapback]

LO very L at manky mutt !!!!

arkle - missing the point and by default the abuse you get by miles.

You truly are a celebrity on here - any less brains and Darwin would be spinning.
TadgerInDublin

Why don't you guys 'phone each other-are you just too f*cking mean, or are you two evil conniving sadists, subjecting us poor TON supporters to this endless and pointless diatribe? mad.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-29 01:40:30
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Oct 29 2005, 01:35 AM) [snapback]50019[/snapback]

Thanks for the feedback. It is much appreciated. I will ask my "friends" to pick me up a ticket from Smiths, now that it has been established that they are not all sold out.

And well seen your 'Good Lady's off to bed-no matter, well done mate!!! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-29 01:44:00
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Oct 29 2005, 01:39 AM) [snapback]50021[/snapback]

jeezo! looks like someone just moved on from boisterous to aggressive. time to put the apple schnapps away, i think.

Definitely mate-I prefer Merrydown! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-29 02:07:16
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Oct 29 2005, 01:52 AM) [snapback]50031[/snapback]

.......jesus, mary and the carpenter .....if you don't like it don't read it you f***ing weapon - that's why it's called General Nonsene, most of the time it's got nothing to do with football.

A great example of why the old days of camarederie were good and the new days of arsewipes whose second balls haven't dropped are bad.

It's called verbal jousting - stay on the sidelines - if you like what you see jump in - if not - don't read the thread or bore the rest of us.

If you want football stuff steer clear of general nonsense wee baws.

And I don't need to phone CHC or Trick or Donga or Shed 7 or midTONs or RTB or Andy or 95% of this board cos I have their numbers, and I regularly share a pint with them when I'm home.

AND ..... next time I'm over I'll happpily have a pint with arklesTON and Tom McB.......it's all good.

TonInDublin
last response aimed at mortonjag, just to clarify for the
poor lad.

TonInDublin

'Verbal jousting' by whose rules you twat-do you think I'm f*cking stupid?

The point I'm trying to make is that at least there should be a generality in which TON fans can participate, and not just the prattlings of some smart arsed elite, of which you appear to be wanker elect!

By all means 'phone the other members of your cosy little clique, but don't bore the rest of us to tears with your schoolboy drivel.

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mortonjag 2005-10-29 02:21:07
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Oct 29 2005, 02:15 AM) [snapback]50042[/snapback]

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

Are you insinuating that TimInDublins 10 mates are all a bit 'Pat McGroin'??

Shockerooney!!

I thought you were just a pussy with a girly haircut but now i realise that you have balls of steel big enough to to take on potato-land's finest firm, with semtex et all.

Yer some man, by ra way!!

One Kneecap or Two?

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Ahem, you and your number plate could join our 'clique' if you want.

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IM 4 BED
mortonjag 2005-10-29 10:41:35
QUOTE(hoopsforever @ Oct 29 2005, 10:29 AM) [snapback]50110[/snapback]

I've got a really good feeling today. As I've said before, Gretna are there for the taking by ANY team who has a bit of belief in themselves. Granted, we'll miss certain players, but this give the others a chance to step up and prove something, not just to us or the manager, but to themselves.

MON THE HOOPS!!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

You've got it in one man-this should be far easier for us than it was for the Binos at Scapa on Tuesday-it's time that smug lot of overpaid mercenaries got a good wellying-and it'll be a joy to see Alexander's face and hear his whining when they do! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-29 10:56:24 I really don't think it matters too much who plays today-if we are lacking a couple of regulars our playing style will probably alter, and Gretna will be less prepared for that.

All we need today is total commitment from eleven guys AND total backing from us, and there's no reason why we shouldn't bag the points. smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-10-30 12:44:07 The reason for our lack of success is staring us in the face.

Just look at the table-we're second equal, and only three teams have scored less than us-and it's no comfort to me that Alex Williams is knocking them in, in Division 1

We've got an at least competent defence, and potentially the best (and youngest) midfield in the league, but unless Jim sorts out this glaring weakness, we might as well go and watch Gretna.
mortonjag 2005-10-31 07:49:59
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Oct 30 2005, 01:42 PM) [snapback]50889[/snapback]

In Millar we have a player who is fast, has an eye for goal and can make direct runs.

Walker is shaping up to be a very good holding midfielder who is the correct physique for the job and can also hit the target from range.

In Finlayson and McAlister we have two of the fastest and fittest players in the League, who are 100% committed. Only complaint is lack of final product, but the same can be said of every other Morton player.

All of them are suffering from lack of confidence and as a result are less willing to make a daring final ball or run as they will be slaughtered by the same old moaners in the shed for trying, so they hide. They shouldn't. They should take the criticism on the chin and keep trying: when it comes off, everyone will be happy!

Except for that myopic girning b*stard LargsTON!

And since we're being nice to each other again-another 'Blinder' from SUPER KEV who 'flaffed' again on Saturday when we could have had a crucial goal! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-02 10:36:03
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Nov 1 2005, 11:33 PM) [snapback]52131[/snapback]

I guess Dougie could dig deep and buy some players in January.
Like Bingham, Deuchar and Grady for instance. biggrin.gif

And there's the real reason for Gretna's invincibility.

I thought at the beginning of the season (especially when we beat them at Scapa) that Gretna might fade and their highly paid mercenaries could lose a bit of interest, but for me Saturday said everything-sure those guys want money, but they want kudos too, and no matter how much I resent it, this is BOUGHT SUCCESS.

I'll guarantee if they show the slightest hint of wavering by December, Mileson will just re-open his cheque book- and at Division 2 level he's always going to succeed in attracting better players than the rest of us.

From our point of view, we just have to stay focussed, and accept the play-offs as (hopefully!) inevitable. I think that we should just forget Gretna exist (except when WE play them) and concentrate on building a team that CAN score goals.
mortonjag 2005-11-02 10:58:56 I agree we shouldn't waste more money on 'strikers'. We have got guys with proven goalscoring records, but you could let the best striker in the world run about the box for 90 minutes and he wouldn't score unless he got the right balls.

Baldacchino showed us on Saturday-and in some ways even more hurtfully, Stirling did in the previous game, that if you use the wings properly you can be lethal.

We do not in our present squad have ONE out and out winger. Andy McLaren could play there but McInally has other plans, and our two 'wingers' to date have been (right footed) McAlister on the left, and Finlayson (the blinkered greyhound) on the right.

I'm a bit sick of people criticising our midfield-for much of the season we've been dominating games with our fitness and application there, but I agree the final ball has always seemed lacking.

Even ONE decent (old fashioned) winger on our books would, IMO, make a hell of a difference and increase our options no end.

mortonjag 2005-11-02 11:51:19
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Nov 2 2005, 10:57 AM) [snapback]52222[/snapback]

We can't complain about that MortonJag - we've tried to do the same thing the last two seasons in a row, but bollixed it up.

You're being hypocritical.

If it sounds like that, fair enough, Donga-I accept we've had a big financial advantage over clubs like Brechin and Stranraer, and 'blown it', but for me, Mileson's spending power just puts the resources of every team in all three Bell's leagues in perspective, and is totally unprecedented and disproportionate.

He's got a manager with no proven record in the past, (but who is probably a talented 'yes man'- a glorified Highland show venue to play on- and a fan base of three or four hundred villagers, yet Gretna are running away with this league, because he can SPEND, not just on players but on wages, bonuses, holidays, and so on.

If that's not BOUGHT SUCCESS, what is, and YES, I DO resent it because it's palpably and blatantly unrealistic.

I honestly believe, though, that if he had done the same at Firhill, or Starks Park, OR Scapa, for that matter, I would have taken my hat off to the guy.

At least Dougie Rae is up front and admits Morton will have to become self-sufficient financially, as his resources are finite. He's been a life saver for us, but is only a local businessman, and lifelong TON supporter, and in no way a multi millionaire like Mileson.

To be honest, given that professional football is a business, I wouldn't be surprised if Mileson gets so far, an then falls foul of the Monopolies Commission, or some other regulatory body, and for the good of Scottish football IMO, the sooner the better..
mortonjag 2005-11-02 12:33:24
QUOTE(Chicken Soup @ Nov 1 2005, 09:50 PM) [snapback]52011[/snapback]

Would be useful if you could spell McAllister and McLaughlin correctly.

You clearly have difficulty in constructing a meaningful sentence young man.

I've a feeling you've been 'chickening'out of your studies.

Your brain certainly appears to have the consistency of soup-and I'm NOT usually one for dishing out compliments! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-02 13:11:30
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 31 2005, 11:35 AM) [snapback]51280[/snapback]

Why was he given acres of space on Saturday? Surely the tactic should have been to put a close marker on him to prevent him getting the ball? McGregor was 20 yards off him most of the time and then had to tackle him in full flight. I would have thought that it would have been better to have Jim MCallister on him as a man marker and that would have stopped 90% of their creativity. I was discussing this with one of the Gretna youth coaches this morning and he agreed that Baldachino is their main threat for creativity - stop him and you stop Gretna.

And McGregor looks like a good midfielder to me, don't think he looks comfortable at left back.

Interesting point made by the coach-that a guy who basically does little but sling balls into the box is 'their main threat for creativity' but I can't argue with it.

Our 'strikers' have taken a lot of stick lately, but if we had a wee 'Baldy' on either wing, our goal difference would look a damned sight more respectable.
mortonjag 2005-11-02 13:20:29
QUOTE(don_vito @ Oct 31 2005, 05:27 PM) [snapback]51451[/snapback]

Have to say that Gretna were miles ahead of us on saturday and althought the writer may be getting carried away with the headline I cant realy put too much blame on him.

As for Alexanders celebrations I dont blame him as I'm pretty sure it's Gretna he's in charge of not Morton, fair doo's he was a fan favourite at the ton but life goes on, what would you expect him to do?.....celebrate when Morton scored and not celebrate when his team won a game over one of their main challengers to put them 10 points clear at the top of the league?...... huh.gif didn't think so

Maybe I'm being a little cynical, but I guess Alexander probably had more to celebrate than just winning on Saturday-and I bet it wasn't a big bag of Buchanan's toffees either! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-02 13:46:51
QUOTE(simplyton @ Nov 2 2005, 01:29 PM) [snapback]52259[/snapback]

I know he could have found it hard to find them but maybe Alexander could have headed towards the Gretna support to celebrate the victory on Saturday rather than rubbing our noses in it - only a little thing but really riles me up.

Don't let that grinning 'yes man' upset you simplyton-it's not worth it.

If he had achieved his success with a rag bag of rejects deployed skilfully like the TON record breakers of the 60's he'd have something to be proud of.

He's only a pawn on Mileson's chessboard. I would be extremely interested to see how he would do managing-say-Berwick Rangers, or Stenhousemuir.
mortonjag 2005-11-02 14:10:49
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Nov 2 2005, 01:30 PM) [snapback]52258[/snapback]

There's room for another thread there
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Afew years ago in the english league there was an african player had the first name mabawza (spelling might not be right but that was the gist of it) which was hilarious to me as I gave him the surname Itchie just like our friend on here!

Made up names can be terribly funny but real ones are the best.

I like the old story about the new GP whose English left a little to be desired meeting his first female patient.

As she sat down he politely asked, 'What is your name Miss?'

Fanny Aitken she replied.

'NO, NO, NO!', exclaimed the 'Doc', 'name come first-then problem'!
mortonjag 2005-11-02 15:18:34
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Nov 2 2005, 03:12 PM) [snapback]52282[/snapback]

Lilley and McLaren will be on round about £850 I reckon - nobody on here will know the exact figure though.

Which, fortunately, is more than any Gretna player gets-


for a 'win' bonus! sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-03 09:17:55 I'm confused about the purpose of those play-offs.

I might be mistaken, but I thought that it was a thinly disguised ploy on the part of Division 1 to keep the financially 'viable' clubs (e.g. the 'Mortons', and the 'Thistles' in their division.

I believe they specifically looked at our situation last season, when we lost out to unfashionable Stranraer and Brechin, at least one of whom will probably go straight back down.

In some ways I think we are being a bit harsh on the legislators. Had Gretna (and the total anomaly it embodies) not been in our league, we would all be happily trekking to Scapa every week, knowing we still had the chance of the Championship.

Having said that, the situation is now almost farcical-Gretna are exciting to watch and running away with the league, yet they haul in two or three hundred fans, while Morton, Partick, and Raith are losing out financially because it's become a long meaningless season and you can still go up if you're fourth of ten. That doesn't pull in the fans.

Short of a Solway tsunami I guess we're stuck with it but don't knock the power of prayer guys!

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mortonjag 2005-11-03 09:49:23 If 'fill in blank' is Chris Millar, I agree entirely with you guys.

We've got several young talented players (I include John Adam, Ryan Harding, Jim McAlister, and Scott McLaughlin) who IMO will 'cut it' easily at a higher level when they mature.

Because we still haven't got a winning formula they've ALL been getting unfair criticism of late.

This is the third season when our absence of a 'general' in the squad is losing us points IMO.

We need someone who can really 'take the game by the scruff of the neck' and motivate the others, and things WILL happen.

We've been expecting too much of our kids!
mortonjag 2005-11-03 10:02:54 Seems like it's 'knock the strikers' today biggrin.gif

Have you guys never heard of percentages-the best strikers ALL miss chances-SITTERS even-but what makes them good is they'll always knock in a good proportion, and that's all we should ask of them.

To criticise Lilley for a skilful head flick to Main's right (while he was under pressure and the goalie was narrowing the angle is IMO, extremely unfair. I was well placed behind the goal and it WAS an excellent save.

Get real guys, (apart from the occasional superb delivery from McLaren), to describe our strikers' lot this season as a famine is an understatement.
mortonjag 2005-11-03 11:19:57
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Nov 3 2005, 10:09 AM) [snapback]52462[/snapback]

Are you a professional pisser-offerer?

Who are you to judge? Fact is, Lilley messed up on Sat. Head flick - what on bloody earth are you on about pal?

Dream Oak is bang on as per, and as many have said - it was an atrocious attempt, due to really low confidence.

Nobodies knocking anyone, but I'm not going to put my head in the sand and say Derek is playing well.

Knock strikers day? Every day is a Fck Finlayson day for you pal.

Guess I rattled your cage son biggrin.gif

Donga I'm as entitled to my opinions as you or DOT, or anyone else on this forum-and unlike you I do state opinions rather than proclaim FACTS!

I have not suggested that Lilley is on form (though several people including those in the press said Main made a good save)-merely that our strikers have been starved this season.

As for my OPINION of Finlayson-it's interested me that more and more forum users are getting fed up with him. I've consistently praised his virtues, but up front he's a frustrating waste of space (IMO)!!! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-03 11:33:44
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Nov 3 2005, 11:02 AM) [snapback]52467[/snapback]

I think this is for you Morton Jag

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDNice one Super Nanny, but with you and Donga both pre-menstrual this morning, I'll not need the transplant thanks!
mortonjag 2005-11-03 11:37:47
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Nov 3 2005, 11:27 AM) [snapback]52476[/snapback]

Right....facts. Ok, so Lilley DIDN'T mess up on Saturday then?

From where I was sitting it WAS a good effort, and as DOT suggested Main flapped out instinctively and was lucky to palm it away. It obviously depends on perspective (like everything on those forums!) smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-03 11:55:13 I agree with the sentiments expressed-especially the 'one game at a time' proposition.

We've reached a watershed. It has become painfully obvious that, barring a miracle, we won't catch Gretna, and the Directors and Management have hopefully had a bitter taste of reality.

Now it's back to the drawing board. The ONLY thing that should matter this week is 3 points on Saturday.

The Stirling game was a debacle in every respect. We ALL, including myself, thought we would walk it, and had our minds on Gretna-and as it is, we're now 6 points down instead of 3.

Surely the lesson has been learned, so let's genuinely get behind the team and SUPPORT them, instead of booing them for not giving us a perceived RIGHT to win every match.
mortonjag 2005-11-03 11:58:29
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Nov 3 2005, 11:47 AM) [snapback]52481[/snapback]

Ok then. From where I was sitting, which was right behind the goal, in line with his "shot", it was a very poor miss, and Alan Main couldn't believe his luck, in my opinion. Should either have smashed it, where he hit it, or placed it like he did, but in the right place.

Did neither.

What are we on about this for anyway, we lost, next game! I hope he gets his confidence back and does it for us, as he's one of my favourite Morton players ever.

I agree with that-and unlike some-think he's been working his balls off in every game. Hopefully his form will come good soon.
mortonjag 2005-11-03 12:05:17
QUOTE(McInally's Mole @ Nov 2 2005, 09:54 PM) [snapback]52378[/snapback]

Anyways - BTT.

Does anyone know a way that we could get our ideas across to the club? Not only in our perspective of the team, but also for other ideas like stadium improvements, social events etc... I'd like to think that the club frequently interacts with the fans and the community.

Why don't you speak to 'McInally's Mole". I'm sure he'd put a word in for you! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-03 12:22:46 I've gone straight to the end of this post-honest-as I don't want my opinion swayed-then I'll go back and see what you guys are saying.

We've got to get goals, and our current strikers aren't cutting it.

Andy and Spoonsy are my front two for that reason only.

I'd definitely have Walker and McLaughlin in left midfield, and don't see the problem in trying Millar and McAlister on the right.

My back four (Davie McGurn is an obvious choice)

Harding, Greacen, McGregor, and-mmm I might give John Adam a wee chance.

QUOTE(axeman @ Oct 31 2005, 08:41 PM) [snapback]51567[/snapback]

McGurn

Finlayson Greacen Harding McAllister

Millar McLaren A.Walker McLaughlin

Weatherson Lilley

Just saw this choice axeman-I'm not a Kev fan as you know, but I agree we should try him (or John Adam) at right back.

I think you're showing a bit of imagination-it might not be bad having wee McAlister playing deeper-Millar and Andy would link well, and you've chosen two genuine forwards up front.
mortonjag 2005-11-03 12:34:22 Truly amazing what money can do.

At least the poor tramp got some reward, hovever humiliating his action may have been to him.

We've currently got a once down and out team 'pissing' all over us-and again it's down to a mindless Fanny with too much money and no common sense. (IMHO)!! sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-03 12:45:58
QUOTE(Lincoln Ton @ Nov 3 2005, 12:32 PM) [snapback]52494[/snapback]

I think on this site we all get a bit obsessed by fomations.4-4-2, 4-3-3 etc I strongly believe that professional footballers should be able to adapt to any system and that formations can change at different times throughout any game.
On Saturday Morton's main problems were that 4 out of the 5 midfielders were lightweights, which meant Gretna won nearly every tackle and header in midfield. Alex Walker is the only one who can tackle and he was brought off and within a minute 1-0 down. Having said that McLaughlin had a decent game.
Dave Mcgregor never got close enough to Gretna's right winger and Morton kept lumping big high balls up to their six foot six centre half. He must have thought it was his birthday!
Certain players seem a bit low in confidence i.e. Chris Millar who should have been taken off but that may have knocked his confidence even more.
Andy McLaren certainly livened things up but he needs to screw the loaf - he's no use to us suspended. Lilley will come good.

I think we should listen to you as I gather you don't see many games, so you were probably more open minded than us on Saturday (we've all got our wee pet loves and hates).

Strange thing is though, LT, that when we BEAT Gretna in the cup, I thought our midfield was superb-funny old game!
mortonjag 2005-11-03 12:56:12
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Nov 3 2005, 12:52 PM) [snapback]52504[/snapback]

Looks over at Donga, shakes head and shrugs. mellow.gif

-then gets up and toddles off to the Chemist's shop! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-03 12:59:55
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Nov 3 2005, 12:51 PM) [snapback]52503[/snapback]

Peter Cormack =====> Douglas Rae
Davy McPherson ====> Douglas Rae
Cowboy McCormack ==>Douglas Rae
Jim McInally =======> Douglas Rae

Maybe we are all looking in the wrong direction when it come why we are not succeeding?
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Are you at the wind up, or have you just got your jotters at Fort Matilda for putting the wrong wrappers on Dougie's sweeties? mad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-03 14:17:43
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Nov 3 2005, 02:01 PM) [snapback]52547[/snapback]

I mentioned in a rant last week that the only common denominators duirng our period of underachievement are us and Dougie Rae.

No one questions his commitment to Morton and I am not being disrespectful or being ungrateful for what he has done. But I dont think being manager of Morton is an easy job, especially when you don't have 100% say in what players are coming to the club.
Maybe DDF should adopt a less hands on approach, tell Jim McInally what his budget for wages is, how much money he's got to spend and let him get on with it....

Are you privy to information that the rest of us don't have M4RKO. If so spit it out-tell us what's going on behind the scenes, and how McInally is being prevented from doing his job.

I'm not saying you are wrong-just that I think Douglas Rae has been marvellous for the club, and so far has been reasonably immune from criticism, so why now blame him-unless as I say-you know more than the rest of us.
mortonjag 2005-11-03 14:23:53
QUOTE(Muz @ Nov 3 2005, 01:57 PM) [snapback]52545[/snapback]

Quality!!

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Boozehound and Muz, I note, rarely aspire even to ramblings-away back to your playdough children, and Super Nanny'll be in, in a minute to change your nappies.
mortonjag 2005-11-03 14:32:46
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Nov 3 2005, 02:26 PM) [snapback]52555[/snapback]

Im not blaming him for anything, but, consider the amount of ex-morton players who have been linked to Morton or signed to Morton.

Why would McInally sanction a 100k offer for Chris Templeman, a player he had seen in one game against us prior to us making an offer for the player. Why would any manager worth their salt take a gamble on Alan Mahood, a player who hadn't kicked a ball in nearly 2 years prior to signing with us.
Its blatantly obvious that its going on, to have not noticed it by now baffles me MortonJag.

I know for a fact that at least one of our summer signings was a DDF signing, and im sure we all know who im talking about. These aren't startling revelations im making here!

If you're saying Douglas Rae was instrumental in signing those players against advice, I certainly take your point.

Are you, however, suggesting that our current bad form is down to the chairman, preventing McInally from doing his job properly by his interference?

If that IS the case he should know better at his age!
mortonjag 2005-11-03 14:43:09
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Nov 3 2005, 02:41 PM) [snapback]52558[/snapback]

well to an extent, yes I am saying that, in that the squad of players McInally has at his disposal is not the pool of players he may or may not have signed if he was given a free reign to purchase / sign the players he deemed necessary to assemble a squad capable of beating Gretna to the title.
His patter at the start of the season about wanting to go with a small squad sounded like company speak to me, how many managers in the world would choose to have a small squad???? Everyone knows that competition for places leads to imporved performances on the park.
The reason we have a small squad can only be due to certain players eating up a large proportion of the transfer budget. Who would swap Derek Lilley for 2 decent full backs right now???

I like Derek, but take your point. I'd have one full back, and a decent left winger though.
mortonjag 2005-11-03 15:35:16
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Nov 3 2005, 02:30 PM) [snapback]52556[/snapback]

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDWhy don't you and Muz get together with Super Nanny at 7 p.m (if it's not past your bedtime), and among the three of you try to post one piece of constructive comment about the TON, instead of getting your wee rocks off with your silly jibes and puerile pictures.
mortonjag 2005-11-03 16:39:40
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Nov 3 2005, 04:26 PM) [snapback]52596[/snapback]

Mortonjag, it's far from "the best I can do". However, you're such a monumental trumpet that I find it hard to motivate myself to come up with a reply as witty and well constructed as yours.

Rocket.

ok mate -get it right up you your arse you f*cking wanker-you muz and all the other wee s***ebags who pollute those columns-shower of mother f*ckers.
If that's the kind of stuff you prefer I'll give it a bash-you apology for a stale turd! rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Boozehound @ Nov 3 2005, 04:26 PM) [snapback]52596[/snapback]

Mortonjag, it's far from "the best I can do". However, you're such a monumental trumpet that I find it hard to motivate myself to come up with a reply as witty and well constructed as yours.

Rocket.

ok mate -get it right up you your arse you f*cking wanker-you muz and all the other wee s***ebags who pollute those columns-shower of mother f*ckers.
If that's the kind of stuff you prefer I'll give it a bash-you apology for a stale turd! rolleyes.gif

TWICE!!!
mortonjag 2005-11-03 16:40:57
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Nov 3 2005, 04:26 PM) [snapback]52596[/snapback]

Mortonjag, it's far from "the best I can do". However, you're such a monumental trumpet that I find it hard to motivate myself to come up with a reply as witty and well constructed as yours.

Rocket.

ok mate -get it right up you your arse you f*cking wanker-you muz and all the other wee s***ebags who pollute those columns-shower of mother f*ckers.
If that's the kind of stuff you prefer I'll give it a bash-you apology for a stale turd! rolleyes.gif

TWICE!!!
mortonjag 2005-11-03 18:11:57 'It would be reasonable to assume that this may be our best eleven'-who could argue with that DOT!

What a diplomat you would make.

Would it be unreasonable to assume that it may not?

I understand where you are coming from but already today we've had the valid point made that it's not line-ups that matter so much as performance-we've had talk of rockets up arses-somebody wants rid of Douglas Rae-and I've been getting 'pelters', apparently because I'm not afraid to state my opinions in a civilised and educated manner.

Guess we're all a wee bit upset after the events of the last week or so, but you can guarantee that if we gub Dumbarton on Saturday,, we'll suddenly be the best think since Buchanan's toffee again! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-03 19:48:41
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Nov 3 2005, 04:37 PM) [snapback]52605[/snapback]

Your Monkey just took a bullet!

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mortonjag 2005-11-04 07:15:24
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Nov 4 2005, 12:43 AM) [snapback]52761[/snapback]

What a wank! laugh.gif

Away and get a brain transplant from your dog-it'll still have more than enough grey matter left after YOUR cranium is stuffed-oh-and then you can chuck it that chip off your shoulder-you pathetic little dragged up inverted intellectual snob.

Translated-'Morning LargsTON my good chap'. (For those who DO prefer a little erudite material on those fora.
mortonjag 2005-11-04 08:01:04
QUOTE(midTONs @ Nov 3 2005, 11:14 PM) [snapback]52749[/snapback]

Laura from what I believe if the biochem and haematology labs go them they might as well knock the hospital down and build houses on the land.
Not being clued up fully on this I would appreciate your opinion on this.

MidTONs I'm honestly surprised that people only start throwing their hands up in horror when the progressive dissolution of the NHS stares them in the face.

This Labour/Tory/Pragmatist shower only thinly disguise their intention to demolish the welfare state and NHS.

Unfortunately the management of the NHS is a convoluted self perpetuating monster, sucking huge financial resources away from genuine patient care every year, and it's that management that's been told to sort things out-HA HA HA! mad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-04 08:55:18 When Jim McInally arrived he said that one of his reasons for wanting the job was that he was impressed by the whole set up at Cappielow, including the input and involvement of the Chairman.

I find it hard to believe that Jim would just have 'swanned into' a situation he hadn't researched-he just doesn't seem that kind of guy to me, and he wasn't unemployed and desperate for anything.

People seem to forget he IS NOT an experienced manager-he's learning the ropes like we've all had to do, and he won't get everything right straight away.

The truth is, that with Gretna out of the equation, we ARE doing well this season-started well, and sure, have had a sticky patch, but I still believe we have a squad well capable of promotion, with NO additions-we just need the right blend, players coming on to form, and a bit of self belief.

Lets all get down to Scapa tomorrow and get behind the boys, AND Jim, AND Dougie Rae.

A decent victory over the 'Sons' who are nobody's fools will set us back on track.
mortonjag 2005-11-04 09:09:47
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Nov 4 2005, 08:21 AM) [snapback]52778[/snapback]

mad.gif I know this has been touched on in the other post about inverclyde, but i have to say, all that seems to be in the papers these past few months,year even, is the amount of cowardly,despicable acts of cruelty towards animals.

Before we go off on one here, i am the owner of a couple of cats, and last nights news item sickened me. The cat burned by arseholes and their fireworks, and even in the record, the story with an accompaning photo. The story was of a family who thought they had lost the family moggie for 3 months, only for it to come home. The mother being over joyed told the kids, ONLY for some sick FCUK to impale it outside their house on an old metal fence, you know the ones that look like spears?

These bastards need to be given a dose of their own medicine....and i`d like to volunteer to administer a dose...

Sorry about the rant guys..thanks. sad.gif

It's not a rant-it's a percerption of a personality trait-and those 'bastards' as you euphemistically call them, usually end up wasting taxpayers money in our
penal system.

Personally I'd have them flogged within an inch of their lives for a first offence. I wouldn't take away the chance to mend their ways but-do it again and you get topped.

Anything wrong with that! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-04 09:28:37 Donga I like your input to those fora-and I'm NOT taking the piss, but I'm a wee bit tired for wind ups this morning.

If you DO want to annoy me though, steer clear of areas you clearly don't understand.

What you intended to say was. 'They are these fora'.

That would also be incorrect as 'these' is the plural of 'this' (here).

'Those' is the plural of 'that' (there).

As I sit at my keyboard I envisage all THOSE other posters-out THERE

Thank goodness they are not HERE or Monkey would probably get choked.

By the way, you ARE good at songs-if you want a decent guitar I'm selling a Fender Tele Mex!!

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mortonjag 2005-11-04 09:41:53
QUOTE(midTONs @ Nov 4 2005, 09:25 AM) [snapback]52791[/snapback]

Mortonjag not quite sure if that was a reference to myself or not but I will add I have been on to rallies and marches and have been writing letters in support of the IRH as far back as the save the Rankin campain I'm no expert on it but I do try and follow and support it's cause, I mean wouldn't I? I stay less than half a mile from it, if anything was to happen to any of my family I could have them there in less than 2 minutes, how long will it take me to get to Paisely?

midTONs, I was born in the Rankin (a long, long time ago), and it certainly wasn't a reference to your goodself.

I don't want to say too much, but I'm now retired and spent a lifetime within the NHS.

Despite what other posters may think of my opinions (often deliberately provocative-and just for fun), I'm probably now more 'socialist' in outlook than I ever was.

I don't pretend to know the answer to the NHS dilemma, but I certainly see a 'Labour' party which is delighted to widen the divide between the 'haves' and the 'have nots', and that makes ME sick. sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-04 09:47:08
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Nov 4 2005, 09:38 AM) [snapback]52794[/snapback]

The Aussie theme pub that used to be part of the same building Chaplins and the Victorian suite are in when I was 18.

Anyone remember the name of that pub? Was opened 8/9 years ago.

AMNESIA






























(alcohol induced)

Morning boozehound! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-04 09:56:55
QUOTE(mrsmoo @ Nov 4 2005, 09:47 AM) [snapback]52799[/snapback]

mortonjag, aaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggghhhhhhh no more please. It is perfectly acceptable in today's modern world to use forums, as this is understood, much in the same way as it is acceptable use of English to use stadiums, being adopted into everyday language.

Yes, you know the Latin origin and the correct use of fora and stadia to represent the plural, but this is 2005. Moreover, it is usually language scholars who insist on this. (Tom McB welcome your "pedantic" thoughts on this!)

More importantly, this is a Morton message board FFS!

rant over
mrsmoo x

P.S. can someone please tell me that mortonjag is a regular poster on the total wind up - come on alias - own up and put me and a few others out of our misery.....

mrsmoo - I think Tom McB and I would concur in approbation of your use of 'alias'-but for those poor uneducated morons (the only ones you appear to think are entitled to use the board), apart from yourself, 'aka' would be more appropriate in 2005.

P.S. xx rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-04 10:14:42 Hopefully we will get a goal/goals tomorrow. Given recent form, who do you expect to score first?
mortonjag 2005-11-04 10:27:32
QUOTE(midTONs @ Nov 4 2005, 10:16 AM) [snapback]52813[/snapback]

Peter from a corner kick to get the 1st goal anyway.

midTONs that's naughty-as you know Peter 'was, is, and always will be a striker'!!! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-04 10:31:56
QUOTE(BasraTon @ Nov 4 2005, 10:13 AM) [snapback]52811[/snapback]

Just top them anyway, infront of their families, up against a wall with a single bullet through the nut.

nutS biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-04 10:38:24
QUOTE(midTONs @ Nov 4 2005, 10:35 AM) [snapback]52823[/snapback]

good to know I'm getting in the middle of this with no effort at all
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Well make sure you don't burn your arse sitting on the fence-the way things are going, you might have to fly to Milan for treatment! sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-04 10:47:55
QUOTE(midTONs @ Nov 4 2005, 10:43 AM) [snapback]52826[/snapback]

Well it at least I'll have a nice view of the Well Park from my window unsure.gif

Naw-ye'll be too busy watching the cabin crew in case they get too close to your bahookey-by the way has the Well Park changed much-my Auntie Kate stayed in Trafalgar St. and she used to take us weans there on sunny days for picnics?
mortonjag 2005-11-04 10:55:04
QUOTE(midTONs @ Nov 4 2005, 10:47 AM) [snapback]52829[/snapback]

That was the best pub in Inverclyde, one of only two pubs in Gourock I ever enjoyed drinking in smile.gif

midTONs I was too shy to admit it earlier-I thought I would just get laughed at-but MY first drink was in that very place-downstairs in 'The Locker'.

I was seventeen at the time and had my first summer job at Ravenscraig (OK guys I can take it!), and some of the older staff coaxed me to go. I drank sweet stout and it was rank-put me off the idea of booze for quite a while.

That was in the early sixties and I re-call it was very popular then.
mortonjag 2005-11-04 10:57:58
QUOTE(midTONs @ Nov 4 2005, 10:54 AM) [snapback]52831[/snapback]

I wouldn't say the WellPark has changed much in appearance over the years, but the type of people using it (mainly at night) certainly has. sad.gif

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mortonjag 2005-11-04 11:10:08
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Nov 4 2005, 11:04 AM) [snapback]52839[/snapback]

Jeezo.. sweetheart stout? that wid huv put me aff drinking for good...
Speakin of which can anyone remember Harp? haven`t seen that here in years..last had it in belfast when i stayed there a while back. You can buy it in boxes of 10-15 and 24 bottles.....but fek it wiz it like toilet water......aaarrgghhh... laugh.gif

Yip-nearly as bad as McEwan's pale Ale-green cans you had to open with that wee gadget! (If you were posh and not in a hurry!)
mortonjag 2005-11-04 11:51:57
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Nov 2 2005, 11:14 AM) [snapback]52226[/snapback]

You have a point SLJ, we need to calm down and have patience with the team. I think though we had quite a settled eleven and were doing quite well until the Firhill game, when your players looked more up for it and completely exposed the weaknesses of our 3-5-2 system.

This started a bit of a knee jerk reaction and we've changed our formation, personnel and tactics, not just in each game since, but also during each game. This, together with 3 defeats in 4, has led many of us to try to suggest the best formation.

Basically we have just discovered we have weaknesses in both our regognised formations. 3-5-2 doesn't suit our centre backs and opponents can exploit it, while 4-4-2 is more solid but we have no recognised full backs.

Now if the manager can calm down and settle on a formation, maybe we will calm down also and get right behind the team.

I agree with you DOT-it's lunch time on a Friday and we should (IMO) be looking forward and not back.

Guess we all love our football and the TON or we wouldn't waste time posting here, and it's natural we've been frustrated, disappointed, and even calling for scalps, but we HAVE to put it behind us.

The Gretna game has put things in perspective-for the time being let them get on with it-we have to focus on beating Dumbarton.

Jim McInally is inexperienced, but I don't think he's stupid, and hopefully they've all been working at this game during the week.

For our part, we must get right behind the boys-and that DOESN'T just mean applauding and shouting and singing WHEN they're playing well.

They need our moral and vocal support FROM THE KICK OFF and I just hope they can produce the goods. One decent victory, IMO, and we'll start to re-establish ourselves in this league.
mortonjag 2005-11-04 12:13:19
QUOTE(se56an @ Nov 4 2005, 11:42 AM) [snapback]52845[/snapback]

What ever happened to the big black cannons that were in Well Park a few(well many a few) years back

Probably fell foul of the Race Discrimination Board (who no doubt blamed the Catholic Church)! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-04 12:51:46
QUOTE(giz @ Nov 4 2005, 12:28 PM) [snapback]52857[/snapback]

I was going to ignore this thread but I need to comment.....Crap thread!

Do you mean that it's not fair to criticise Douglas Rae, or do you just mean the quality of posts is 'Crap', giz?
mortonjag 2005-11-04 13:02:15
QUOTE(capello @ Nov 4 2005, 12:53 PM) [snapback]52866[/snapback]

Yeah I echo Giz'z reply 100%,but why cant we beat the likes of stirling at home ,a team who had not won all season and were rooted to bottom of the league,I have always said if you are a team who needs a win badly,a striker who cant hit a coo on the arse with a big stick ,a manager who is one win away from the sack,morton needing to win to keep up with the leading pack when it matters etc etc!!,why do we always fall against this type of opposition? or does it just feel like it?..

We can use the old line that we are a young team ,inexperienced manager,bigger fish in a smaller pond,we can all see this,maybe Jim needs someone of the old school mentality to achieve the right blend beside him in the dugout?For what its worth I think he is the right guy,but to get out this league we need something different from what we have been trying,what it is I don't know, but its getting like the same old same old,how could stranraer do it last year on a shoestring with a part time team yet we cant with the resources dougie has provided to the last few managers?..

Sometimes it must feel like he has bought a rolls royce and it drives like a Skoda!!! laugh.gif ,an old Skoda mind,not the re badged ones the taxis all use cause they are not too bad! wink.gif
Good post capello-it is easy to forget what Douglas Rae's done.

By the way those new Skodas are cracking motors and good value too, and I bet Dougie would gladly swop his present motor for one to get promotion!
mortonjag 2005-11-04 13:08:23 Fanny Aitken's pal Phil McCracken!
mortonjag 2005-11-04 13:21:41
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Nov 4 2005, 01:13 PM) [snapback]52875[/snapback]

I think people are going to have to face the fact that Dougie Rae personally selected every under-performing player at the club. It’s also apparent that the occasions we play the long ball are because of his direct instructions which also include telling the strikers not to score.

Other shameful things that Rae is at fault for:

He is the sole reason the play-offs were introduced this season.

He personally selected the likes of Forfar and Peterhead as away trips during December.

He set the prices at the hot food stall in Ayr.

He cast Hayden Christensen in the role of Anakin Skywalker.

He put in an old woman’s window after the Love Street Challenge Cup defeat.

He’s been attacking cats with fireworks.

AND-WORST OF ALL-he rots the teeth of innocent children all over Scotland-Millions-I'm told-what an evil villain we have masquerading as a SUGAR daddy!
mortonjag 2005-11-04 13:31:48 McGurn's out with Mumps

McLaren's out with a hamstring injury









































































Alex Walker's out with his motor getting it fixed so he'll be in time!

Iain this is an unofficial web site-give McInally time to get his tea mate! mad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-04 13:50:17
QUOTE(rafa the spic @ Nov 4 2005, 01:38 PM) [snapback]52894[/snapback]

oh is it the league tomorrow, when you get to cup finals you lose track of what your doing

Obviously ya glaicet Paisley c*nt-yer on a MORTON website-way back tae bed wi yer ma!
mortonjag 2005-11-04 14:01:01
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Nov 3 2005, 08:43 PM) [snapback]52694[/snapback]

Another amusing(ish) true story...

Was at Stirling Royal Infirmary on a placement, and had gone with a nurse to see a patient.
When we got to the ward there was a very flustered junior doctor from somewhere in Englandshire, flicking through a list of all the drugs you can prescribe in the UK, trying to find a drug called 'Adiniken'

Yep, he'd just asked an old lady from Alloa if she was on any medication for her heart condition laugh.gif
Possibly not actually that funny in retrospect but at the time I nearly ended myself cool.gif

Glad she didn't say she took them in a 'wanner' or he'd have been checking the crockery too!
mortonjag 2005-11-04 14:27:42
QUOTE(rafa the spic @ Nov 4 2005, 02:16 PM) [snapback]52909[/snapback]

just oot of there dont want to go back, keeping my energy for the CUP FINAL on sunday, are you no going

You kiddin pal THE INCEST CUP FINAL- we humble TON supporters wouldn't have a clue what to do, but by all means give us a 'clicky' for the video highlights! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-04 14:36:52
QUOTE(BigBadSaint @ Nov 4 2005, 02:28 PM) [snapback]52915[/snapback]

Ooops I'm lost too....I was trying to get directions for New Broomfield for this weekend's Cup Final and remembered that they used to play in the 2nd Division so I wondered if their was any old travel directions listed here... ahh well worth a try. I'll try multimap tomorrow I suppose as I've time on my hands with us having no game 'cause we're in the Diddy Cup Final Sunday...win or lose should be a good day ....main thing is we got there and got the cash from a sell out 10,000 crowd. Be happy when it's over to be honest and we can concentrate on the league like you lucky buggas have been able to do since your exit...The league focus seems to have helped though, ensuring that you haven't slid any further down than 3rd...playoffs still a good possibility in 6 months.
So multimap it'll have to be tomorrow afternoon as I check the afternoon scores. Hopefully St Johnstone, Ross Co and Clyde might drop some points but heh not too fussed since they're 5 or so behind.
Y'all have a nice weekend

lots of love BBS

Guess that just says it all.

They're in a CUP FINAL-WHOOPEE-and the dozy b*stards don't even know where it is-we need a headline

INCEST CUP FINAL-SKUNKS TO MEET ER SUMBUDDY AT ER NEW BROOMFIELD

Go and have a lovely family day IN! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-04 14:43:14 Do you guys know where he comes from-yep he's a skunk through and through!
mortonjag 2005-11-04 14:49:37
QUOTE(rafa the spic @ Nov 4 2005, 02:38 PM) [snapback]52923[/snapback]

big game for you this weekend, who is it again? blink.gif

Much the same as for you pal. While you lot are enjoying that immortal game all the family can play-we'll be SHAGGING THE SONS STUPID!!! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-04 15:00:50 Headline from Coatbridge and Airdrie 'Advertiser'.

ST MIRREN FAN BITTEN BY SNAKE-FIRST CASE OF REPTILE AIDS IN SCOTLAND
mortonjag 2005-11-04 15:07:44
QUOTE(rafa the spic @ Nov 4 2005, 03:02 PM) [snapback]52940[/snapback]

be hard at mo shes at work in brediland primary well thats where she tells me where shes going maybe you know better laugh.gif let me know just thinking the money shes not sharing cos the only way you,d get your hole is to pay for it laugh.gif laugh.gif

Like the wee boys do with their pocket money? smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-04 15:11:41
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Nov 4 2005, 02:56 PM) [snapback]52934[/snapback]

Bang on, Boozehound.

Plenty of posters who he's dumbed down would no doubt pish all over him in a battle of wits but realise this is meant to be a light hearted football forum so are content with pointing and laughing.

The joke's certainly on him. biggrin.gif

Ta spud-jist speek tae rafa-av jist spoke tae him anat!
mortonjag 2005-11-04 15:15:51
QUOTE(rafa the spic @ Nov 4 2005, 03:12 PM) [snapback]52948[/snapback]

all very witty enjoyed the craic but sadly have to pick the wife up now, hope she makes it back from all the shagging shes been doing greenock, if you fancy a good night out on sunday paisley will be a happy place join us wink.gif wink.gif wink.gif

Hope they enjoyed her crack more than we enjoyed yours-good luck on Sunday, and watch out for snakes-the slimy slitherly things with close set eyes, forked tongues, and black and white stripes!
mortonjag 2005-11-04 19:56:45
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Nov 4 2005, 04:02 PM) [snapback]52966[/snapback]

Ta Da!!!!!!

A concept others, ahem perhaps some I speak to you regularly on here, just never got at first when they appeared on the scene also.

MortonJag, it wasn't me that was pulling you up on grammar or anything, it was my online persona.

listen mate gonnae get it right once an for all-ye WERE TRYING tae pull me up-or yer ither persona wiz-well yees were both wrong-by the way mucker a think ah might ditch mortonjag-he's a f*cking smartarse (like that soupy fanny one) wi the maids uniform or sumfin-she needs a right good shag IMO!
mortonjag 2005-11-04 20:25:09
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Nov 4 2005, 05:32 PM) [snapback]52982[/snapback]

McInally's taking another gamble if this is the case.

I can only assume our line up will therefore be something along the lines of;

________________________McGurn_____________________

Weatherson_______Greacen_______Harding______McGregor

________Finlayson________Walker________McLaughlin_____

_______________________McLaren______________________

_______________Templeman_____Lilley__________________

Assuming he's doing the right thing and dropping Millar and Jim.

Either way, 3 in the middle is asking for trouble.

4-4-2 please, Jim! mad.gif

LargsTON, I've honestly been trying to be good-humble even-but your arrogance is as irrepressible as your inconsistency-frankly you are a f*cking sycophant IMO.

You couldn't bear to hear me criticise Finlayson, and tore wee Chris to shreds repeatedly, and now it's "McInally's taking another gamble"-dropping Millar and Jim.

You know- I don't think I've once heard you make a constructive or positive comment, or utter a really original thought.

Maybe Dougie should just sack McInally tonight and plank YOUR arse on the bench tomorrow-that WOULD be interesting! smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-04 20:32:09
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ Nov 4 2005, 07:24 PM) [snapback]53014[/snapback]

I am going on my late Summer holidays and I dont think I have ever seen them lose the game that precedes my departure from these isles for a week or two.

Think they'll win 2-0

JB. cool.gif

Obviously a wee bit short in the holiday department going on what you've said!
mortonjag 2005-11-04 21:13:43
QUOTE(Hendo! @ Nov 4 2005, 08:49 PM) [snapback]53041[/snapback]

We have a few English contractors in our place just now.

One of them is called Mark Hunt! laugh.gif

Oh-as in Mark Hunt's been appointed as new Manager at Morton FC

Douglas Rae was quoted yesterday as saying-'We've already had so many unsuccessful c**ts in this job that I've decided to give Mark Hunt a chance'.

Rumour has it mind you, that he's a proper FANNY! sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-04 21:31:40
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Nov 4 2005, 09:28 PM) [snapback]53074[/snapback]

i'm always willing to jump on a ridiculous superstition. 2-0 sounds good to me.

ou un autre chien manque? huh.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-04 21:33:35
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Nov 4 2005, 09:27 PM) [snapback]53072[/snapback]

With all due respect, YOU are the most arrogant c*** i've ever had the misfortune to come across and may i suggest you take your wrinkly, shrivelled dick and piss off to buggery.

rolleyes.gif

I've never actually wanted to physically harm someone through reading an internet forum but there's nothing i'd love more right now than to smash my right mitt into your smug coupon.

What's this pish about not being constructive?

Your head is so far up your own arse it beggars belief.

Umpteen posters have had a go at you in recent days - you've a serious attitude problem and you'd think the penny would've dropped by now.

My first post wasn't abusive in the slightest - i merely stated what i thought the starting line up would be and expressed my concerns based on recent games.

You only read what you want to read, tube.

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mortonjag 2005-11-04 21:36:31
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Nov 4 2005, 09:28 PM) [snapback]53073[/snapback]

Three in the middle at Cappielow is long overdue (it is a small pitch), not just with Jim, over the past few seasons. It will allow our central midfielders more room to create on attack and will hold tight when we don't have possession.

I think/hope Jim will line-up something along the lines of:

-----------------------------McGurn------------------------------

Weatherson-----Greacen------------Harding--------McGregor

--------------Millar----------A.Walker---------McLaughlin------

McLaren-----------------------------------------------McAllister
--------------------------Templeman----------------------------

I have put Temps in my line up, but if he is a doubt, Lilley will start. J.Walker will not get anywhere near the starting line-up, he hasn't done anything recently to suggest he is better than Temps or Lilley.

McLaren MUST play on the wing!!!!!!!

I agree-after all, he's the only winger we've got, and look what that wee Baldy something did to us last week!
mortonjag 2005-11-04 21:38:36
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Nov 4 2005, 09:32 PM) [snapback]53078[/snapback]

oui.

Alors, allez au le Midden-vite! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-04 21:41:36
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Nov 4 2005, 09:34 PM) [snapback]53082[/snapback]

Ashamed that i bit but you really are a prick of the highest order.

Takes one to know one mate! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-04 21:55:51
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Nov 4 2005, 09:45 PM) [snapback]53091[/snapback]

Thing is manky - you'd need 3 midfielders of a far higher quality than what we have to make it work. The three guys above reguarly dominated against 4 or 5 opponents due to their workrate and overall ability.
True.

I can be a prick at times but i can also listen to good advice, unlike you.

I'll test your first statement-your second is totally presumptuous, as we are, after all, only on a wee TON web site-for FUN! (Have you heard of that word little boy?)


Oh yes-the test- f*** OFF LargsTON and gie's peace! mad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-04 22:05:35 You'll need to tell the guys what you installed-how you installed it-what version of (I assume) windows you're running etc.

Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling?

Truth is I know f*** all about computers except they're like (IMO) women.

Treat them gently and patiently, and with a bit of super luck you'll only get kicked in the teeth-OUCH- err every now and again!
mortonjag 2005-11-04 22:17:02
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Nov 4 2005, 09:40 PM) [snapback]53086[/snapback]

NewTon was/is pleasant and a good laugh. smile.gif

Imagine mortonjag joining in a humorous thread like the Harold Bishop or Top Man one?

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Kevin Finlayson was a winger for years with Stranraer but has yet to be used in an attacking role here.

I know the thought horrifies you but he's been bogged down with defensive duites since he arrived here and has yet to be used in a more advanced position.

LargsTON the thought of Kev racing up that right wing, lifting his head and looking across before placing the perfect ball on Vialli's head fills me with utter joy-like most of my wildest dreams do-trouble is you always wake up to reality-join the REAL world man-he'll always be a blinkered greyhound up front.

QUOTE(LargsTON @ Nov 4 2005, 10:02 PM) [snapback]53103[/snapback]

Shut up.

Losing a little momentum I see-have another beer LargsTON!
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mortonjag 2005-11-04 22:24:23
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Nov 4 2005, 10:07 PM) [snapback]53108[/snapback]

Yeah, me too (long vodka was apparently 'sophistcated' - whit? blink.gif) but in Strata (?I think) in Glasgow - I'd just turned 17 but it was my best mate's 18th.

So it was the long vodkas that killed 'Best Mate'- great horse too but-well George Best-Best Mate-poor b*stards didn't see it coming-and SUCH talent!
mortonjag 2005-11-04 22:27:59
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Nov 4 2005, 10:19 PM) [snapback]53110[/snapback]

Sitting here with a fresh orange.

Not like you to make wild assumptions.

rolleyes.gif

About to stick it up your arse, perchance? biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-04 22:36:52
QUOTE(forza ton @ Nov 4 2005, 09:44 PM) [snapback]53092[/snapback]

stuart little laugh.gif fanny gravy - brilliant. good thread this

i posted this b4 but when i worked in a call centre there was a woman called anita keech

Makes me think of Wenger-Arsenne Gere or sumfing!
mortonjag 2005-11-04 22:39:49
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Nov 4 2005, 10:35 PM) [snapback]53113[/snapback]

Stop biting Largston !!!

Stop interfering (cricket) Batman-LargsTON's a BIG boy!
mortonjag 2005-11-04 22:45:59 Good news from the European summit meeting on the Pakistan disaster.

Germany is sending unlimited medical supplies

France is sending unlimited food packages

Britain is sending unlimited replacements for physical losses.
mortonjag 2005-11-05 07:28:23
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Nov 4 2005, 11:54 PM) [snapback]53130[/snapback]

Happens to the best of us at times, mate.

Don't think he's fishing anyway, he's just a genuine, 100% wanker.

Masturbation LargsTON is certainly pleasurable. Who WOULD'T want to have sex alone with the most important person in the world---morning my good chap-hope we hump the SONS!!!
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mortonjag 2005-11-05 07:38:15 There's fortunately nothing sensationalistic about this Donga, but it IS an opportunity for open minded people to see that addiction can be dealt with positively.

We always mock when we think we're better than others-race, religion, addictions, whatever.

I think that what Andy has done takes a lot of courage-and remember he has to keep dealing with his addictive personality EVERY SINGLE DAY for the rest of his life.

Hope he comes back to full fitness today and scores a cracker.
mortonjag 2005-11-05 10:08:59 Slightly off beam for this thread, but after Edwina Currie damaged the egg industry with her scaremongering about bacterial infections, a young Irish couple started a poultry business.

They were very down to earth people so the just called the company


SAM AN' ELLA POULTERERS LTD.

Names on wedding guest list

Ben Doonan
Phil McCavity aka Phil McCracken
Shona Dick
Willie Aitken
Fanny Aitken
H E Dick
Arsenne Gere
Hugh Janus
Isa Cumming
Rhoda Goodfellow
Sue K Harden
etc.!
mortonjag 2005-11-06 08:50:30
QUOTE(axeman @ Nov 5 2005, 08:25 PM) [snapback]53383[/snapback]

That's Derek's style sometimes he goes cold, but when he's hot he's hot. Prepare for more of the same.

Vialli's Back !!!!!! biggrin.gif

Exactly 'axeman', and often when a striker comes back on to form it's the start of a good run-here's hoping.

By the way nobody's mentioned that it was his 'assist' from a McAlister/Millar build up on the left that gave Andy his goal too!
mortonjag 2005-11-06 09:01:27
QUOTE(deego @ Nov 5 2005, 07:33 PM) [snapback]53345[/snapback]

...is s***e !

I agree with your sentiments deego but not with the way you put them.

Quite frankly, IMO, the Finlayson lobby are now 'flogging a dead horse'.

Actions speak louder than words, and yesterday Finlayson looked very ordinary to me.

For example, he's four or five years older than Scott McLaughlin, yet in terms of creativity he's light years behind a wee raw boy.

It would be nice not to be 'slagged off' for my comments this time ( smile.gif ), as I have CONSISTENTLY PRAISED his good points, but as the team is now shaping, I only see a place for him on the bench.
mortonjag 2005-11-06 09:15:04 Truth is that yesterday Dumbarton did SFA up front, and our defence wasn't tested-largely because we controlled midfield very efficiently.

Ryan had a reasonable game but still made several unforced errors, tried to be too elaborate, and his distribution still isn't up to the standard he's capable of.

David McG had a solid enough game, but still looks a bit 'flat-footed' at times against fast players.

Alex Walker is good going through the middle, but I would certainly favour trying him at right back, and playing Spoonsy further forward.

Big Stu has been immense for us in so many games that people have come to expect that EVERY week.

Like Lilley, he's had a dip in form, and he and Harding haven't quite 'sorted it out' in the middle, but I find it just silly to suggest that because we got a result yesterday he should be dropped-(though I'd happily keep Spoonsy as captain and take that weight of the big man's shoulders)
mortonjag 2005-11-06 09:27:41
QUOTE(edd @ Nov 6 2005, 02:44 AM) [snapback]53474[/snapback]

walker and mclaughlin do not play similar roles at all, am i the only one who sees this? mclaughlin plays the holding midfield role, walker plays a more attacking role - did you not notice that was the case whenever they both played at the same time? away to raith, for example, millar and walker pushed forward (hence walker's goal) while mclaughlin sat back defensively. walker's a big lad, sure, but he's not the same sort of player as mclaughlin.

I certaily agree-McLaughlin's workrate in midfield is on a par with Finlayson's-he's a tireless wee worker, who as he matures is gaining the confidence to move forward and 'have a dig'-as at Gretna.

Alex Walker is a gifted attacking midfieder who's getting better in the air and has a great shot in both feet. He's most comfortable moving forward IMO.

After yesterday's performance, where we worked a flat back four fairly efficiently, I honestly see Finlayson as destined for bench duties.

I am NOT saying he's a BAD player for the second division, but at the moment, in terms of a starting eleven, he's surplus to requirements.
mortonjag 2005-11-06 09:35:13
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Nov 5 2005, 07:54 PM) [snapback]53358[/snapback]

Credit to Dougie Ray today for his team selection and halftime talk. Also good to see his summer signing score two. smile.gif

Whisper is SH that Dougie was actually at the Stranraer game yesterday kooking for more midfield talent, and reluctantly had to leave things in Jim's hands! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-06 09:41:36 Quite frankly I find those ratings a waste of time unless they're accompanied by comment, but from those of you who rated Finlayson above McLaughlin, a posted explanation (in braille will do) would be helpful.
mortonjag 2005-11-06 09:47:21 Perspective is amazing-no wonder the poor refs can't get it right all the time.

From my viewpoint in the stand, it was such an obvious deflection that I said to my brother, "Will Spoonsy get the credit for that, or does it count as an own goal".

It was a well worked piece though, but as another poster suggested, I think the initial shot would have gone a bit wide of the goalie's right post.
mortonjag 2005-11-06 09:55:29
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Nov 5 2005, 05:52 PM) [snapback]53265[/snapback]

MortonJag, can you say "Donga Will Win The Lottery Tonight" please? wink.gif

Sorry Donga-only saw your post now-any luck mate? sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-06 10:01:05 If it wasn't for the stupid play-offs I guess I'd prefer Thistle to lose as we'd be more likely to be second and get automatic promotion. As things are we PROBABLY will be in the play-offs anyway, and I'd love to see Gretna take a good humping from ANYBODY!.
mortonjag 2005-11-06 10:04:16
QUOTE(Rossi @ Nov 5 2005, 05:58 PM) [snapback]53274[/snapback]

Use to work with a girl called Iona Carr

Rossi

Aye she was Mini Driver's wee mate!
mortonjag 2005-11-06 10:20:04
QUOTE(piehutt @ Nov 6 2005, 10:07 AM) [snapback]53494[/snapback]

I just feel we have better options on the bench, or at the very least players who deserve a chance to see if they can do anything better than him. Remember guys like Temps and Lilley got a barrell load of criticism a few weeks ago. However they were dropped so the flow stemmed - however Mcinally seems reluctant to play anyone other than Finlayson and doesn't sub him until about 5 mins to go.

The guys a man down going forward, can't cross, can't pass and can't beat a man. Basically finds an easy pass but usually gives it away. I think when Greacan comes back we'll see Kev on the bench, or at least we should.

Obviously if I felt that Kev played well or was dropped then I wouldn't bother criticising but the way I feel is that we're carrying him. A good work ratr doesn't make you a good player I'm afraid, although all credit to the boy for trying.

I agree piehutt-the trouble is Kevin DOES give his everything in each game, so dropping him to try to get more out of him would, IMO, be a waste of time.

I've never rated him as a 'footballer'-super grafter - sure a la Scott Bannerman, but ALWAYS flatters to deceive-wastes countless opportunities, and going forward he just gets in the road of progress.

His supporters clearly don't analyse his productivity, and are gulled by his 'gung ho' swashbuckling style.

Frankly he should be left on the bench (or just made to 'walk the plank')! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-06 10:27:16
QUOTE(no soap in greenock @ Nov 6 2005, 10:17 AM) [snapback]53497[/snapback]

It's only 3 points for a win. blink.gif blink.gif

Or a diddy cup that nobody gives a f*** about-c'mon HamilTON
mortonjag 2005-11-06 11:31:36
QUOTE(no soap in greenock @ Nov 6 2005, 10:35 AM) [snapback]53504[/snapback]

All the diddies got put out of the cup tongue.gif

It is a diddy cup but i'm looking forward to the day oot.
p.s. if nobody gives a f*** about the diddy cup, why did you bring it up and I didn't? unsure.gif

Just so I could see those tits bouncing again-like the HamilTON fans will be this afternoon, when the real TITS are away back to scumland smile.gif

(where I'm sure ThornTON would be welcome as an asylum seeker)!
mortonjag 2005-11-06 11:40:40
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Nov 6 2005, 10:27 AM) [snapback]53502[/snapback]

Scott McLaughlin's distribution was woeful yesterday so I don't see how you can say that he is more creative than Finlayson.

ThornTON, I've read your posts for weeks and it becomes more obvious with each one that you see NOTHING.

Even if McLaughlin's distribution wasn't great yesterday, you could always UNDERSTAND what he was up to, and the boy can only get better.

I would honestly welcome any (even video) evidence of Finlayson's purported creativity-the minute he's past the half way line, the only f***ing thing HE ever sees is grass!
mortonjag 2005-11-06 11:44:01
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Nov 5 2005, 11:15 PM) [snapback]53436[/snapback]

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2005-11-06 12:09:46
QUOTE(El gofer @ Nov 6 2005, 12:02 PM) [snapback]53518[/snapback]

Thought McLaughlin was great yesterday. Worked his erse off. With the 433 we played it is important that the mid 3 work hard to close the ball down which I thought they did very well. kev worked hard but lacked as my mate said "a first touch and a final touch"!!! Dunno what touch is good if thats the case!!!!

Sounds a bit like ThornTON 'on the job' to me-heid doon an get stuck in, but probably can't shoot to save himself ! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-06 12:44:40 This poll has little chance of remaining clinical as the Kevophiles will pollute it with their usual inappropriate adulation, but I would seriously like the general feeling of all forum users, as an assessment of Kev's value in a starting eleven as against being a worthwhile squad player.
mortonjag 2005-11-06 12:52:51
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Nov 6 2005, 12:36 PM) [snapback]53530[/snapback]

From where I was standing I thought the shot was going to hit the cornerflag!!! Was amazed when it went in. Still, a goal's a goal.

Interesting-were you by any chance on the Sinclair St. terracing near the Ambulance room/gate?

I bet the whole cowshed saw it as a 'belter'!
mortonjag 2005-11-06 13:03:39
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Nov 6 2005, 01:00 PM) [snapback]53537[/snapback]

Funnily enough I was in the shed at the halfway line.....don't know why I saw it like that, most of the mates thought it had gone straight in.

And if you'd had to give evidence in court Davie-wrongful conviction?!!!

How our eyes (and wives) deceive us!
mortonjag 2005-11-06 15:25:49 I am being totally serious in what I'm about to say. It's very obvious (if what piehutt claims is true) that LargsTON-that 28 year old big grown up man has overstepped the boundaries of decency and common sense.

The open forum is the place for knocking spots off each other-and all in good fun as fellow TON supporters.

The personal message function is what it says, and a personal message of that nature is, in legal terms, an assault.

Do you think the police would take long to establish your true identity LargsTON?

You are totally out of order, and if you have any balls-which I doubt-you will post an apology both to piehutt, and on this forum.
mortonjag 2005-11-06 15:40:10
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Nov 6 2005, 01:21 PM) [snapback]53543[/snapback]

Grow up.

Sorry LargsTON, at my age there's not much chance-but clearly you need to do a hell of a lot of growing up son.

Your personal attack on piehutt said it all.
mortonjag 2005-11-06 15:48:09
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Nov 6 2005, 01:47 PM) [snapback]53558[/snapback]

Gonnae stop quoting that fud, Bob!

Stick him on ignore!

I would love you and 'Bob'-your wee bum chum from down the road to put me on 'ignore'.

That way I wouldn't have to tolerate your inane, mindless, and puerile prattlings every time I dare to criticise that 'blinkered greyhound' Finlayson.

Time will tell who's right, but I'll be very surprised if he's holding down a regular first team place by Christmas.
mortonjag 2005-11-06 15:59:11
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Nov 6 2005, 01:42 PM) [snapback]53555[/snapback]

I don't get this.

You slate Kev yet Millar and McAllister have been atrocious for weeks now. Every flaw you attribute to Finlayson can be equally diretced to Jim and Chris but apparently Chris gave you the sausage so you refuse to berate him.

My mate had no biased opinions like you or me and judged him on merit so whether or not you think he's blind he's up to you.

His knowledge of the game is FAR superior to yours, judging by the s***e you post on here.

If your 'mate' had any perceptive ability, LargsTON, he wouldn't be your 'mate'.

Guess we can discount anything (you claim) he said-if he in fact exists!
mortonjag 2005-11-06 16:06:26
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Nov 6 2005, 01:25 PM) [snapback]53546[/snapback]

You make me want to rip my hair out.

You're hopelessly and utterly clueless!

It's 2.5 hours now since I posted my opinions, and you are the one solitary person whom they seem to have sent through the roof.

LargsTON-they ARE just my opinions, and I expect people to disagree-but your behaviour on this forum is, IMO getting out of order.

If I'm 'hopelessly and utterly clueless', would you like to expand on that, or have you had too many beers again?
mortonjag 2005-11-06 16:18:08
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Nov 6 2005, 04:06 PM) [snapback]53651[/snapback]

I'm sure AT can confirm he exists!

AT-Alias ThornTON perhaps-LargsTON!

Even if he does exist, and even if he is totally unbiased-his opinion is no more valid than anybody else's.

It's when you make bald and totally illogical statements about him knowing 'far more' than a fellow poster that you leave yourself wide open to ridicule.

And before you come back with your next smart arsed 'one liner'-fancy giving it some thought?
mortonjag 2005-11-06 16:25:15
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Nov 6 2005, 04:17 PM) [snapback]53661[/snapback]

I'm almost 100% sure LargsTon didn't post that. Mortonjag will agree as surely if it was Largston it would have went more like this:

"Hoi you weebaws, ma mate knows yer coupon.

Yer a wee dafty at's pushin ma buttons.

Watch yer back."

Fair enough 'Boozehound', and apologies to LargsTON if he's been misjudged.

Guess it's now up to 'piehutt' to come clean if he's been naughty, but if he's not-what the f***'s going on?

This sort of stuff's out of order.

Any comments Nacho on the use of the personal message function?
mortonjag 2005-11-06 16:32:27
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Nov 6 2005, 04:24 PM) [snapback]53672[/snapback]

It is becoming a bit of a bitch fest innit? laugh.gif

Indeed mate-let's call it quits (on this one anyway)! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-07 07:17:50
QUOTE(stubaws @ Nov 6 2005, 09:37 PM) [snapback]53835[/snapback]

with everyone available and using the formation we used yesterday then i think our strongest team is:

McGurn

Weatherson Graecan Harding MacGregor

Walker Millar McLaughlan

McLaren Lilley McAllister

so thats reason im voting no, don't think he brings much to the team at the moment

stubaws it's nice to see a sensible opinion, AND the reason for it.

I'm getting more and more pissed off with those posters who can hide behind anonymity, abuse anyone who disagrees with them, and are yet incapable of explaining their opinions-which ARE just as valid as anyone elses.
mortonjag 2005-11-07 07:27:44 Guys cool it-a week ago some of us were crying for Vialli's head.

Who knows what we'll really need come January, when a week's such a long time in football.

To my mind-and sure against the Sons our tactics came off-we need the option of decent balls into the box from more than just Andy.

I'd certaily sign a decent winger TOMORROW!
mortonjag 2005-11-07 07:33:39 Christ's sake, are we talking about a football pitch or a f*cking chess board?

Some of you guys would argue that black was white.

Mmm -- guess I do too for fun!
mortonjag 2005-11-07 10:19:17
QUOTE(Kenni L @ Nov 7 2005, 09:56 AM) [snapback]53932[/snapback]

80% say yes he should be can we drop this now instead of having it after just about every game, give the guy a break.

Welcome to the forum Kenni L-incidentally, what breed are you?

Why do you think we need to 'give the guy a break', when the poll I started and WANTED to be objective has come out 80/20 in his favour?

I accept that-it's positive feedback from my fellow TON supporters, and it doesn't alter in the slightest my own opinion on the matter.

The forum is intended to stimulate discussion-and controversy-let's keep it that way.

Incidentally if Kev does read this, I doubt if he takes it nearly as seriously as some seem to!
mortonjag 2005-11-07 10:30:11 I can't see a grain of logic in this rumour.

Peter's not any longer a 'rising star'. He's in his mid twenties, and although he has proved invaluable as a talented all rounder, I'd hesitate to describe him as standing out a mile from certain other players in the second division.

I'd hate to see him go, as the guy is a joy to watch, but f*cksake, if Hibs offered a decent fee I'd sell him in a minute.

There's plenty of talent in the lower divisions that could be picked up for 'buttons', and we'd still have money in the bank.
mortonjag 2005-11-07 10:37:19
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Nov 7 2005, 10:24 AM) [snapback]53941[/snapback]

Tool.

Can I also point out that Kenni L has been a member of this board and the old Morton Unofficial board for donkeys years. That is all.

Well bless my soul-I bow to his obvious superiority, and apologise humbly and submissively for daring to question.

F*ck off Boozehound-didn't think sycophancy was your style! smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-07 10:40:43
QUOTE(gmfc_rossco_1874 @ Nov 6 2005, 10:43 PM) [snapback]53869[/snapback]

Are you going to be a prick all your life huh.gif

Wouldn't change it for a minute my little angel.

What would you like to be when you grow up? wink.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-07 10:48:51
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Nov 7 2005, 10:43 AM) [snapback]53947[/snapback]

The doctor told me the cream would clear my sycophancy up in 7 to 10 days.

Has he also reached the elevated position of board member at GMFC, or is he just a plain ordinary DOCTOR? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-07 10:55:44 Truth is Rafa, most of us don't give a f*ck about you lot winning that wee trophy yesterday.

As predicted, you got virtually no real publicity-all were too interested in Tim/Bairn land!

At Scapa we're just working away at promotion, and by the time the squad has matured, we'll probably gub you in every game next season-just like we did at Love St (penalties excluded!) tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-07 11:48:23
QUOTE(Youngsa @ Nov 6 2005, 10:32 PM) [snapback]53863[/snapback]

Lets not kid ourselves on here. We've waited a long time for Derek and others in the team to put in a performance like yesterday. It has to be done on a more consistent basis if I am to believe that Liley, McLaren and others are up to the task of getting us into the 1st division.

One swallow does not a summer make - but yesterday was more like it.

More of the same lads and this doubting Thomas will eat as much humble pie as can be supplied unsure.gif

After someone else has sampled it I assume! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-07 11:51:15
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Nov 7 2005, 11:10 AM) [snapback]53954[/snapback]

But is it on video and can I see all 4 goals on the GMFC.net please? mellow.gif
Is your signature directed at Peter ya diddy? mad.gif

Doubt if Peter'll be interested in Soupy Fanny's services-she'd probably shoot his wee monkey as well! sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-07 12:24:27
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Nov 7 2005, 12:08 PM) [snapback]53983[/snapback]

"Kevin Finlayson is probably THE MOST crucial team member we have at present. Why do some fans give him a hard time?"

That came from a Morton director on Saturday after the game.

Not aimed at you MJ, just his detractors in general.

Thanks LargsTON, and that's a valid and interesting contribution to the debate.

If you check my posts, it's only recently that I have doubted if Kev should be in the starting eleven.

I've consistently praised his good points, which the directorate obviously value highly, and equally have highlighted his weakness up the right.

I think it's just that Kevin is SO good at all the hard work, backtracking, tackling, covering his own defenders etc., and SO bad-almost invariably 'wasting it' when he tries to mount an attack, that I feel a player with more all round ability should perhaps be given a chance. I may say I would never have Kev off the bench.
mortonjag 2005-11-07 12:26:42
QUOTE(Boutros @ Nov 7 2005, 12:16 PM) [snapback]53989[/snapback]

4-3-1-2 it was, don't care what Jim said we were meant to be playing, that's what we were playing.

1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 IMO !
mortonjag 2005-11-07 12:54:29
QUOTE(Boutros @ Nov 7 2005, 12:36 PM) [snapback]53996[/snapback]

That's stupid.
You don't count the 'keeper in a formation.

Boutros I had my education in Scotland where 11 X 1 = 11

What's wrong with that formation-I've never been a conformist! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-07 13:01:40
QUOTE(midTONs @ Nov 7 2005, 12:42 PM) [snapback]54000[/snapback]

when was it played? wink.gif

midTONs do you not read the papers!

I live 3/4 of a mile from Hampden, and couldn't hear the second half of the Falkirk game on the radio for the noise.

Took me two hours to get to the chippy for ma tea as the place was swarming with over 40,000 jubilant skunks!
mortonjag 2005-11-07 13:21:34
QUOTE(no soap in greenock @ Nov 7 2005, 01:04 PM) [snapback]54005[/snapback]

It was 43,000 laugh.gif

Well I hope all 43,000 are thoroughly ashamed of themselves-forcing DECENT people to eat a cold puddin' supper. What other evil tricks have you got up your ragged sleeves?
mortonjag 2005-11-07 13:49:11
QUOTE(Boutros @ Nov 7 2005, 01:35 PM) [snapback]54010[/snapback]

Aye aye, my point was this...
4 4 2 = 10
4 3 3 = 10
3 5 2 = 10
4 3 1 2 =10

1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 = 11

geddit?!?

Aye aye, I did and I'm not leaving poor Davie McGurn out for you or anybody else, but if you let me put a 'nothing' on his back, how about


0

1-1-1-1

1-1-1-1

1 1



Two front 'men' to be picked from Cappie, Douglas Rae, Arthur Montford, and Jordan.

Might not score many goals, but would probably have us all standing up (to get a better view of course)!
mortonjag 2005-11-07 13:55:13
QUOTE(Boutros @ Nov 7 2005, 01:50 PM) [snapback]54016[/snapback]

Alright, I'll let you off ('cause I don't know what you're babbling about).

Sorry Boutros-who writes the stuff for you. I thought you were just a TON supporter with a naughty name.

No English classes where you are? (no need to divulge the whereabouts)! sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-07 14:12:09
QUOTE(Boutros @ Nov 7 2005, 02:03 PM) [snapback]54019[/snapback]

Like I said, you've lost me.

Well if you stop getting your scribe to translate for you and tell me what language you DO understand, I promise to do my best-my Urdu's coming on apace since I moved house by the way. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-07 14:42:04
QUOTE(se56an @ Nov 4 2005, 11:05 PM) [snapback]53124[/snapback]

Early sixties, I was thinking you were 13 or 14.

f*** your older than, Newton

Correct-for all I know Newton may be one of my love children-though I suspect proof to the contrary may be forthcoming!
mortonjag 2005-11-07 14:48:30 Excellent report-must have taken ages. Much appreciated.
mortonjag 2005-11-07 14:52:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 6 2005, 07:55 PM) [snapback]53774[/snapback]

Think it is a new toilet block beside the pie stall which is also making a roof over where you would queue for yer pie, looks good.

A new toilet block where you would queue for yer PIE puggsy !!! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-07 16:02:31
QUOTE(g_m_f_c_1874_g_m_f_c @ Nov 7 2005, 03:53 PM) [snapback]54031[/snapback]

Your an arsehole
That is all wink.gif !

And you are, sadly, illiterate-I'll be astonished if you can work this out-but I'll give you a clue.


Your one of those irritating little pests with no opinions and a huge chip on the shoulder.

Re-read as-

You're one of etc.

I think that should be clear to anyone with half a brain! sad.gif

P.S. Arseholes are useful, and produce much more welcome material than you-goodbye.
mortonjag 2005-11-07 16:15:08 Frankly I'm surprised that so many of us still even acknowledge the 'Labour' government.

Even 'New Labour' strikes me now as a euphemistically embarrassing tag for Blair's pragmatic and opportunistic elite.

I've never voted Tory in my life, but at least they've got the decency to admit what they are.

Nor for that matter have I voted Nationalist, but I feel I'm running out of options.

That plastic, grinning, guitar playing Bush boy with the Morticia wife just makes me want to vomit. mad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-07 16:39:36
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Nov 7 2005, 04:06 PM) [snapback]54038[/snapback]

Note to self, don't open another mortonjag post...
Well done, mortonjag, you - a 60 year old man - managed to pull up a 16 year old about a spelling mistake, you must be so proud...

Away and pick up your pension.

Didn't mind him calling me an arsehole ThornTON-but if I can take it I'm sure he's big enough to take it too.

Congratulations on another piece of pointless meddlesome bandwagon jumping-oh and while I'm picking up my pension, go and gloat over your trophy of meaningless jibes, masquerading as input to the forum.

Any chance of divulging your MENTAL age? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-07 17:13:15
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Nov 7 2005, 04:54 PM) [snapback]54059[/snapback]

It was about 24 last time I did a test when I was about 14/15.

So what happened? biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-07 17:19:38
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Nov 7 2005, 04:34 PM) [snapback]54052[/snapback]

My microwave is 850W, can you suggest an appropriate time for mine, in case the worst ever happens?

Surprised you need a microwave with the amount of hot air that spews from your cakehole ThornTON-fancy saying something sensible for a change.

You sound like one of the most self satisfied little boys I've ever had the misfortune to encounter.

I'm honestly surprised that your microwave IS only 850W, judging by the usual puerile 'hype' you pain us with.
mortonjag 2005-11-07 17:39:03
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Nov 7 2005, 05:23 PM) [snapback]54075[/snapback]

What's the odds that on a thread where folk are just joking that mortonjag has tried to spoil it by making a comment about either myself or gmfc?

No-one quote him though, and then it will have been a complete waste of time him posting.

laugh.gif

ThornTON you really take the biscuit-obviously you are one of those unfortunates who are just intelligent enough to be dangerous. (Includes those with pharmacology degrees, before you try to throw that in my face).

I took the piss out of someone (totally tongue in cheek as always) for calling me an arsehole- and f*cking Sir Galahad ThornTON had to swoop to the rescue-but when I take the rip out of you in return (again totally tongue in cheek), you go in the huff as usual.

Let other people make their own minds up, and do their own fighting.

As I said to Soupy Fanny the other week-'If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen'! smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-07 17:48:31
QUOTE(g_m_f_c_1874_g_m_f_c @ Nov 7 2005, 05:41 PM) [snapback]54083[/snapback]

Somehow i dont think he is in a huff because of some ARSEHOLE like you wink.gif

He just disny like you, ok? now stop being a big nipple (as deego would say) and f*** off

Well sonny boy fancy you jumping into the fray.

Truth is I DON'T dislike him-I think he's an absolute hoot, and that's why I keep him going.

As for f*cking off-I will when I've got better things to do, but at the moment I'm bored, and this is much better than nothing! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-08 07:10:29 I'm happy to drop this for now. You've mainly voted against me, and I accept that my opinion is in the minority.

Two points.

1/

I DID suggest an alternative last week-of playing Kevin at right back and Spoonsy further forward, or of John Adam at right back instead.

2/

I now realise who Kenni L is.

Do you think he is the kind of guy who wants to stifle active debate. I just can't understand why his efforts for the TON make his opinion any more valid than mine or anybody else's.

It seems to me that if some of you believed I was-e.g. Walter Smith or similar, you would be hanging on my every word, and drooling in adoration!
mortonjag 2005-11-08 08:07:43 I left at half time. Kenny McLean scored a cracker from 25 yards after a good build up-right into the goalie's top left hand corner and completely fooled him.

Temps looked as though he was only only on to get match practice, and didn't do too much, though he and Jason seemed to understand each other well, and made most of the running up front abetted by McLean.

Jason should have scored easily, hit the ball against the goalie, but did well to net the rebound from a narrow angle.

One of the full backs-I'm sure it was No 3, scored the other with a well worked set piece free from just outside the box.

As I say, I left at half time as the atmosphere was dire and we looked like we were cruising.

We has a tall lad, young black guy, at No 6. He looked very raw, but he did a power of work, looked strong, and distributed the ball well. Don't know what age he is. Might be a good'un!
mortonjag 2005-11-08 08:51:07
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Nov 7 2005, 08:43 PM) [snapback]54221[/snapback]

'twas a sclaff... the ball was played to him too quickly and went past him before he got to hit it where he wanted to...

'twas a powerful sclaff, but a sclaff nonetheless.

Another beauty from ThornTON

Sclaff-(Scots)- a light slap! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-08 09:17:09 IMO Millar's contribution to the side is usually underestimated-he's constantly getting stick, mainly for not being 'physical' enough.

Chris is a lightweight, and an attacking midfielder, though he was rated as a wing back when he came to Scapa.

Truth is he can be very inventive, and is definitely at his best going forward.

Given our absence of wingers, I'd love to see him played wide right, with mainly attacking duties-(and I haven't even mentioned the 'F' word) !
mortonjag 2005-11-08 09:22:52
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Nov 7 2005, 08:41 PM) [snapback]54218[/snapback]

A quote from the first one... laugh.gif Sounds like its been written by a 4 year old... describing Barry Lavety...

ThornTON I NEVER thought you and I would agree on anything mate, but I think J K Rowling is a charlatan, preying on innocent and impressionable children, (often masquerading as adults).

By the way my real name is H E Dick!
mortonjag 2005-11-08 09:40:50
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Nov 7 2005, 08:58 PM) [snapback]54240[/snapback]

Without religion the world would be a much safer place.

Christ (oops) LargsTON I can't believe this. I've just agreed with you AND ThornTON in the space of five minutes.

Marx was right. Religion-the opiate of the masses.

I've nothing against (in fact admire) anyone who combines religion with philanthropy, but in my experience that's unusual.

On a worldwide scale, IMO, 'religion' causes more havoc than heroin, alcohol, tobacco, gambling, oh, AND sex put together!
mortonjag 2005-11-08 09:52:56 Can anyone tell me what was the actual offence Rix was convicted of.

No way am I going to comment on this until I know the facts, but if he is a recalcitrant paedophile, he would never have been able to hold down his previous job.

OK guys-I'll get in first-or any weans!
mortonjag 2005-11-08 10:00:49
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Nov 7 2005, 07:24 PM) [snapback]54146[/snapback]

They were playing Christmas carols in some of the shops in Glasgow today. It's only just November, ferfexake! mad.gif

Yep, I was walking through B & Q yesterday, when 'Away in a Manger' started to play.

I thought it was 'naff', but was glad it resumed, after suffering Bridget McLumpha being stridently summoned to customer services!
mortonjag 2005-11-08 10:04:48 The funniest ball-boy I've ever seen is at Recreation Park-he's so fat he just looks like a wee ball, and spends the whole game doing nothing except directing his thinner and much fitter wee mate. Hope he's there again on Saturday-he's a hoot!
mortonjag 2005-11-08 10:10:39
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Nov 8 2005, 10:05 AM) [snapback]54484[/snapback]

In a hotel on the eve of a match he had sex with his friend's daughter who was a fifteen year old virgin. I'm not sure what the title of the charge was.

From a football point of view, it's probably more pertinent that he recently failed to get a job with a team in the Conference...

So unless it was rape, he was guilty of having sex with an underage girl.

Certainly reprehensible, but hardly paedophilia IMO.
mortonjag 2005-11-08 10:16:06
QUOTE(William Wallace @ Nov 8 2005, 10:01 AM) [snapback]54482[/snapback]

It is strange, that in a country were numbers of people attending churches/chapels etc have fallen to the extend that most are on the verge of closing, that people still use their religion as an excuse for hating their neighbour.
Think it is well over due, that we scrapped this 2 school system. One for Catholics and one for all others. Its a farse and only breads the sactarism that we all agree needs to be stamped out.

It pissed me right off when I read they wanted to splt Weymss Bay Primary up just a year or so ago.
Its time we had a Goverment that wasn't afraid to stand up to church leaders, and said enough is enough.

I know a few people that stay next to a school but take their kids by car to a school a few miles away each day cos its a Catholic school what nonsense.

It must be cost me a tax payer a fortune paying for this system.
ONE SCHOOL FOR ALL, AND END THIS s***E ONCE AND FOR ALL
Who the hell is god, if he is true, why so many religions?

Couldn't agree more-and where I live it's not just the old Proddy / Catholic thing-the Muslims want their own schools too.

Children need to be taught humanitarian values instead of having their impressionable minds swamped and confused by doctrine.
mortonjag 2005-11-08 10:43:15
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Nov 8 2005, 10:32 AM) [snapback]54491[/snapback]

Ha ha I know who your talking about and the thing is- he is the only ball boy on our side so he constantly gets pelters

Though judging by current form he might be ON the pitch on Saturday!

Mind you saying things like that gives me deja vu--Stirling game. huh.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-08 12:52:23
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Nov 8 2005, 12:38 PM) [snapback]54523[/snapback]

He was found guilty of USI (Unlawful Sexual Intercourse) though I am surprised as he could have been found guilty of indecent assault which at that time was a more serious crime
No that's not entirely true- the definition of a paedophile is one who focuses on pre-pubertial children- It should also be added that one act does not generally make someone a paedophile (clinically)- although that does not take away from any crime they may have commited. Nevertheless the term paedophile is nowadays used in a more general sense i.e. that all sex offenders are paedophiles

That's correct las, but if all males aged over sixteen who have had sex with underage girls, (with or without consent), are to be labelled paedophiles, there are probably dozens at Scapa every time the TON play.

If you called them 'paedos' you'd be liable to get thumped!
mortonjag 2005-11-08 13:12:43
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Nov 8 2005, 01:00 PM) [snapback]54533[/snapback]

I'm sure he served time for it....

Because the matter was reported, the police were obliged to charge him-and the rest inevitably followed.

If for example, he had been a fresh faced sixteen year old boy, who was able to convince the court that he really hadn't known he was in the wrong, or was convinced the girl was over sixteen, he'd probably have got off.

When you are a 'mature' adult, as in his case, and in the public eye, you are deemed to 'know better'. That's why he ended up in the Big Hoose.
mortonjag 2005-11-08 13:31:04
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Nov 8 2005, 01:09 PM) [snapback]54536[/snapback]

Isn't that where it REALLY starts? Me and my old man never had the best of relationships but one good thing he did for me was to stop me spouting any bigoted rubbish I picked up from outside.Oh and he took me to Cappielow,can't forgive him for that! smile.gif

The strongest and earliest influence on kids definitely comes from home, but schooling can have a huge impact- take the Proddy/Catholic situation.

Not all parents have the same strength of feeling-some kids will start school indoctrinated, and others may have fairly open minds.

Once they get to school it becomes different-peer pressure tells-it's unacceptable not to 'carry the flag'-and let's face it- the poor kid KNOWS he's different from 'that other lot'-after all there's even a different school for them.

And what do you imagine would happen if you had a Proddy, a Catholic, AND a Muslim school, all within a short distance of each other.

I have my own thoughts but they are better not expressed in writing.

'Faith' schools do nothing IMO, but catalyse pre-existent bigotry, and should be banned.
mortonjag 2005-11-08 13:33:27
QUOTE(no soap in greenock @ Nov 8 2005, 01:29 PM) [snapback]54551[/snapback]

David

Surname and full address required also please!!! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-08 13:37:12
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Nov 8 2005, 12:58 PM) [snapback]54530[/snapback]

Don't be so hard on those greedy bastard corporations - I'm hoping one of them may employ me smile.gif

Name names- Hey-don't tell us-you're going to be the Christmas Fairy on the tree at Braehead Laura!
mortonjag 2005-11-08 13:58:11
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Nov 8 2005, 01:50 PM) [snapback]54562[/snapback]

I'm lost for words! The guy has a hand in setting up all four goals and you still complain. He does tackle btw. He is one of the best I have seen at nipping the ball away from opposing players' feet without giving fouls away and generally making a real nusiance of himself when they are in possession.

In recent games he has been inclined to be a bit over elaborate but on Saturday he set up all four goals. He is supposed to be a creative midfielder and I would say on Saturday you would be hard pressed to find any player in the division who could have filled that role better.

Some people are never happy!

Good points-I've been watching him carefully over the past few matches-sure he's never a 'strong' tackler who takes ball and man, but he is very tenacious, and even if he doesn't always get possession, he usually baulks the opponent, and upsets his rhythm-and his marking is excellent.
mortonjag 2005-11-08 14:31:16
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Nov 8 2005, 01:54 PM) [snapback]54563[/snapback]

They don't.

However, he came on and made a valid point that your poll indicates that more than 80 percent of those who took part believe Kevin should remain in the first team, and is not a "sinner", and asked that we should give him a break and get on with it and you, as you appear to do with most people on here, gave him abuse and asked him what breed he was (?).

I wasn't saying that what he was saying was correct or incorrect, I was saying that perhaps you should pay him, and everyone else that happens to disagree with you perish the thought, a little more respect.
Nope, we'd still think you were a dobber.

Gave him abuse Donga-you're supposed to be the creative one!

The guy came new to the forum with the name KENNIL-and I jocularly made that comment!

You are obviously an intelligent guy-how can I pay respect, or disrespect to anonymities.

Everything I say is a reaction to OPINIONS expressed-not to PEOPLE.

I imagine that most of the apparently aggressive/abusive/argumentative posters here would be great fun to meet-e.g I've been getting ripped into LargsTON and ThornTON when I think they're talking pish, or 'at it', but I'm certain that in the flesh they're decent guys. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-08 14:48:04
QUOTE(Rossco @ Nov 8 2005, 02:37 PM) [snapback]54585[/snapback]

If there is an expiry date on gift vouchers found one from 3 years ago still in good condition & wondering if it will still be in use.

I'm not an expert in consumer law, but if the purchaser paid-say ten quid-there should be no reason for you not to redeem it for that (especially in an inflationary society).

Even if there is small print suggesting that you have to redeem within a specified time-just don't take 'no' for an answer, and if the worst comes to the worst, stick to your guns-say you'll take it to the papers-they HATE that sort of thing.
mortonjag 2005-11-08 15:21:58 Guy walks into a pub with a big cardboard box-puts it on the counter and asks for 'A pint,----- and a 'half' for Tiny.

Gets served-takes the lid off the box-puts the 'half' in-brings glass back out empty-closes box-finishes his pint and leaves.

Does this three nights in a row till the inquisitive barman (just as he's been served), asks --'What the hell's going on'?

He opens the box, and lifts out a salamander, which gleefully swallows the 'half', and promptly falls asleep.

'OK' says the barman-but-'What's with the 'Tiny'.

'Can you not see'- the guy replies -'He's my newt'.
mortonjag 2005-11-08 15:37:45
QUOTE(edd @ Nov 8 2005, 03:09 PM) [snapback]54595[/snapback]

well, the UK is a protestant society, so if anything all state schools should have a leaning towards that and f*** all the people who complain.

private schools can do what they want - do you actually get state-funded catholic schools? that's ludicrous ... (i should probably have known that by now but i never really thought about it before)

Problem is it's not a 'Protestant' society Edd-not any more-it's multi religious and multi cultural, whether we individually like it or not.

The Jews, and Italians, and Poles and to a greater or lesser degree the Asians have merged into British society-they see themselves as British, and we IMO should too.

The point (I think) you are making though is that having 'faith' schools harms that process, and I entirely agree with you.
mortonjag 2005-11-08 15:47:11
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Nov 8 2005, 03:26 PM) [snapback]54606[/snapback]

I'm sorry, I didn't notice you were making a very obscure, and very, very, VERY bad joke. Breed. Jeezo. smile.gif wink.gif

You're right of course, in fact, I'm being a bit of a hypocrite, if you read the Kaiser Chiefs thread. However, you have come in all guns blazing!

Sorry about the bad joke-I genuinely thought it was meant to read KENNIL-as so many avatars do!

Talking of jokes-an old Greenock one-'Can you tell the difference between plain and pan'?

They're different breeds! SORRY biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-08 16:35:47
QUOTE(midTONs @ Nov 8 2005, 04:26 PM) [snapback]54635[/snapback]

Take it you have no family here then.
biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif (naughty)
mortonjag 2005-11-08 16:39:21
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Nov 8 2005, 03:54 PM) [snapback]54622[/snapback]

MortonJag, I think we've just learned a WHOLE LOT MORE about ya, fella. unsure.gif
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mortonjag 2005-11-09 07:56:29 This whole issue is clouded by definition, legality, and perception.

1/ Rix is by definition nowadays a paedophile because he had sex with a 'minor'.

2/ Technically shagging a minor is a crime, but if you meet her five minutes before she's 16 and shag her ten minutes later, nobody gives a f*** except you.

3/ People will SEE what they want to anyway-we all love a good witch hunt.

I don't know Rix, but if he helps Hearts to HUMP the Old Firm, I'll be delighted, and he'll be 'on the ride of his life'!
mortonjag 2005-11-09 08:53:16 It seems to be an ill thought out move all round.

Tom McB suggests on the other thread that because Rix will be grateful to Romanov, he'll effectively be a 'yes man' anyway, and I wonder if he's hit the nail right on the head.

Mind you it's a funny old world-almost every successful male pop star has been guilty of (often multiple) under age shagging, yet they're still perceived as idols by the drooling masses.

Doubt if the Heart fans will give a f*ck about Rix's-- if he gets them the championship!
mortonjag 2005-11-09 09:05:14
QUOTE(edd @ Nov 9 2005, 04:34 AM) [snapback]54893[/snapback]

my point was merely that while the UK claims to be a Protestant society (and it does - with the Queen the head of the Church of England, and the Church of Scotland being a protestant denomination etc.) then we should either give everything a protestant leaning or bring the whole thing up to date and announce that public policy will be to have no leaning towards any individual religion at all. it seems completely bonkers that the protestant state should fund faith based schools which aren't based on protestant christianity ...

i don't agree with the enforced atheism that they have in France, for instance, but i really don't agree with state money being used to fund separate faith-based schools, especially non-protestant ones (i'm not a bigot, it's just that if the country's a protestant country then surely it should encourage that ahead of any others?).

the whole thing needs to be clarified one way or t'other. the secular approach would be my preferred option though clearly either way will face very vocal opposition.

I know where you are coming from edd, and I agree that we are nominally a (Protestant) Christian country, but just in the same way as the Monarchy functions, the Churches don't RULE any more.

The running of schools in this country comes under the provisions of the Education Acts, which can be amended by any government fairly simply if it has the majority, and balls, to do it.

It seems to me that while so much time is spent on issues like asylum seeking, much more important and ground breaking opportunities are being ignored.
mortonjag 2005-11-09 09:28:23
QUOTE(g_m_f_c_1874_g_m_f_c @ Nov 7 2005, 10:28 PM) [snapback]54396[/snapback]

It's you, I think

I also think you were bored and dont really care if its you, you only made this thread for the sake of it laugh.gif

Your avatar says it all-that would read 'Youngest BORED member'! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-09 09:30:51
QUOTE(se56an @ Nov 9 2005, 09:19 AM) [snapback]54916[/snapback]

I would like to complain about those tits!

If your going to have tits on here please at least do the full monty.

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mortonjag 2005-11-09 09:37:32 Two old guys sitting on a park bench when a beautiful young woman streaks past.

'Wullie', says Walter, 'dae ye remember that stuff they used to put in oor tea during the war'?

'Aye Walter-whits yer point'?

'Well ave jist realised it's startin tae work".
mortonjag 2005-11-09 09:51:06
QUOTE(maurtaun @ Nov 8 2005, 11:27 PM) [snapback]54865[/snapback]

Wheres this South Lanarkshire prick when yi need him?

Or gretna Ed.

Don't know what's happened to the little bumpkin. You'd have thought he'd have been on here -- doing a power of gloating.

Maybe he had a couple of beers to celebrate and died of alcohol poisoning, but more likely his Mummy has discovered 'parental controls' on his steam powered computing machine! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-09 09:58:33
QUOTE(no soap in greenock @ Nov 9 2005, 09:47 AM) [snapback]54925[/snapback]

Clicky

A bit like the Black and white dots midTons (i think) posted last month.

Very good nsig.

I've also discovered that if you gaze intently at black and white stripes for long enough you get delusions of grandeur.

Definitely HamilTON, and ** JohnsTONe! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-09 10:00:52
QUOTE(no soap in greenock @ Nov 9 2005, 09:32 AM) [snapback]54920[/snapback]

The guy in the pic looks like MidTons laugh.gif laugh.gif

Or it could be Graham Rix on his way to pick up his kid at the nursery. ph34r.gif

Christ-he shags GOATS as well! mad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-09 10:03:10
QUOTE(midTONs @ Nov 9 2005, 09:59 AM) [snapback]54929[/snapback]

I also posted that one last month as well laugh.gif

But all credit to the skunks-they never give up trying-even if they usually make an arse of it! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-09 10:04:34
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 9 2005, 10:02 AM) [snapback]54932[/snapback]

I'm 9 and a half

And I'm Mr Rix-geez yer address son!
mortonjag 2005-11-09 10:20:48 It's worth remembering that you often hit a bottleneck a couple of miles from Alloa-especially as we'll (hopefully) be taking a big crowd, and many of the good Clackmannanites will be out doing early Christmas shopping.
mortonjag 2005-11-09 10:31:12
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Nov 9 2005, 10:16 AM) [snapback]54936[/snapback]

Did anyone see Ceefax last night. Apparently he was also front runner for the Crawley Town job. That speaks volumes to me and suggests that the Romanovs have the puppet that they were after.

On the under-age sex thing. She was 15 and I as far as I'm aware the problem was that he went back after being warned off.

And he didn't get a job at CRAWLEY-man that is CREEPY, but as long as he doesn't go Romanoff the straight and narrow again Vladimir will no doubt say you're welcome to Romania!
mortonjag 2005-11-09 10:51:36
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Nov 9 2005, 10:38 AM) [snapback]54945[/snapback]

I've said it before and I'll say it again

Lilley is agood player

Chris Millar is a good player

Its not the size of the dog in the fight
but the size of the fight in the dog.

foobs cool.gif

Aye Foobs that's what I said to my Yorkie when the Rottweiler moved in next door.

Christ, how I miss that wee mutt!

Point taken though, and just hope they let him play wide right on Saturday.

Always knew Vialli would come good-on form he's still well above the average 2nd division striker IMO.
mortonjag 2005-11-09 10:54:46 biggrin.gif
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Nov 9 2005, 10:51 AM) [snapback]54948[/snapback]

"Kaiser Chiefs" are a football team in Suoth Africa

an a lot better than the Ton; or at least they used to be!!!

An mortonjag; if you be drawing the pension " SMILE"

those young guys will all be paying for it.

foobs biggrin.gif blink.gif blink.gif biggrin.gif

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mortonjag 2005-11-09 11:02:17
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Nov 9 2005, 10:38 AM) [snapback]54944[/snapback]

I don't think that he'll prove to be a good appointment.

Because he's not a good enough manager, or because of his murky past?
mortonjag 2005-11-09 11:13:07
QUOTE(Fonz @ Nov 9 2005, 10:52 AM) [snapback]54949[/snapback]

And a whopping £20 admission as well......now thats value for money.

But still better value than twelve quid for a 'Stand' in a village park, where you STAND for ages for a pee.

It really goes to show though-apart from city teams (and I'm referring to Aberdeen, Dundee, Edinburgh, and Glasgow-not the 'pretend' cities like Perth and Inverness), the TON have arguably the biggest potential fanbase in the country, and we've just GOT to get out of this division.

Sorry to hark on, but Mileson and his fantasies are the worst thing that's happened to us since that deformed cretin Scott infected us.
mortonjag 2005-11-09 11:21:37
QUOTE(midTONs @ Nov 9 2005, 11:09 AM) [snapback]54953[/snapback]

He wont be doing much if any managing.

Referring to Tom McB's comments, and those of yourself and others, it looks like Romanov's just appointed a figurehead then.

If that is the case, why go for somebody with Rix's sexual history.

Surely there are other guys with a clean record who would gladly kiss Vlady's arse for the kind of money he can throw at them.

I think it's a case of 'suck it and see'.


YES guys 'As he said to----'!
mortonjag 2005-11-09 11:34:08
QUOTE(se56an @ Nov 9 2005, 11:30 AM) [snapback]54962[/snapback]

The left one fell off!

And he felt a RIGHT TIT?
mortonjag 2005-11-09 12:18:18 Bearded lady in a circus.

Obviously they know more about me than I thought, and the spy zapper's supposed to work! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-09 12:24:39
QUOTE(se56an @ Nov 9 2005, 11:37 AM) [snapback]54964[/snapback]

I heard you knew how that felt! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Trust you to mock the afflicted-fancy a trip up the Amazon se56an or are your sexual preferences more conventional? smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-09 13:42:08 Check out Douglas Rae-and he looks SO innocent!
mortonjag 2005-11-09 14:30:17
QUOTE(blindton @ Nov 9 2005, 02:24 PM) [snapback]55006[/snapback]

apparently im gonna be a stripper! laugh.gif

Well ye'll no see them laughin' at ye!
mortonjag 2005-11-09 14:37:47
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Nov 9 2005, 02:11 PM) [snapback]55005[/snapback]

Spoken like a true closet TV laugh.gif IMO , The only person to think wearing a kilt is dressing like a woman is someone who secretly likes dressing in woman's gear wink.gif

You've obviously never worn a kilt or you'd know what its like and the reaction you get from woman all over the world, Glasgow to Villnius biggrin.gif


Try telling these guys in Brussels that they look like woman laugh.gif EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2005-11-09 15:03:43
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Nov 9 2005, 02:59 PM) [snapback]55016[/snapback]

My god but your patter is s***e ohmy.gif

SNAP! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-09 15:05:17
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Nov 9 2005, 02:41 PM) [snapback]55014[/snapback]

Apparently he will be picking the team, although he has agreed that advice (or interference) from elsewhere will be tolerated. He'll have less power and influence than your average manager but still more power than someone with his lack of pedigree should be given.

As for his murky past, I don't think there's a danger that he will re-offend and I think he should be given a second chance but he will get so much abuse at every ground he goes to (including Tynecastle if things start going wrong) that it will be a difficult situation to handle.

And the comments from the Oxford fan in this morning's Record make depressing reading. sad.gif

Could you enlighten-or are you a newsagent?
mortonjag 2005-11-10 06:42:32
QUOTE(carlito @ Nov 9 2005, 06:53 PM) [snapback]55108[/snapback]

But not there and back... dry.gif

Think I'll hold off from getting one until the battery life is about 10 hours or so.

Get re-chargeable batteries and a charger-if you shop around it won't cost you a fortune, and you'll soon get your money back.
mortonjag 2005-11-10 06:45:24
QUOTE(NewTon @ Nov 10 2005, 05:41 AM) [snapback]55198[/snapback]

The amount of spam about willie enlargement amazes/amuses me.

I just got spam with the following subject ...
wait for it ...
wanna be hung like a pringles can?
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Aye-'Once you pop-you can't stop'! sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-10 07:07:35 Talking of 'old birds', I think one of the best preserved, and naturally attractive is Lulu.

In fact when she was running around with the 'Luvvers' in the sixties, she just came over as a sexy and provocative wee ragamuffin but I think she's now a class act.

Any pics Thornton?
mortonjag 2005-11-10 07:12:40
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Nov 9 2005, 08:14 PM) [snapback]55138[/snapback]

Only worn one twice but had my knackers out both times.

LargsTON-I do apologise-when I first read that, I thought it said-'had my knacker out both times! Morning sir! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-10 07:21:09 Don't believe this-Martin Clark AND Jim McInally are both coming out as 'crash test dummies' , and -wait for it- Alex McLeish has missed his vocation as 'SUPER HERO"! ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-10 07:29:32
QUOTE(Magic Mathie @ Nov 9 2005, 09:01 PM) [snapback]55145[/snapback]

[
Spierdalaj mate - Poles see themselves as Poles not fckn br*tish. My Ma would belt you if you called her br*tish and I'd be right behind her for round two.

In that case she should f*ck off back where she wants to belong-oops sorry if I offended-maybe you're an asylum seeker and I'll get the jail for discrimination.

Seriously MM, I'm talking about the vast majority of Scots Poles, who are now second and third generation.

I'm talking about Glasgow as well mate.

My own 'Ma' lives in Dunoon, though, and I've never heard of a Polish population there-they don't even have Pole Dancers FFS! smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-10 07:34:14
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Nov 9 2005, 06:38 PM) [snapback]55101[/snapback]

And apparantly Mr Rix has his own personalised car registration plate -
RU16.

Bottom line is thet Romanaov has lied to the fans - it's easy to see now why Anderton was sacked.

There's big trouble ahead for Hearts with a £20million rising debt.

That's the front plate and on the back it reads


1 5HAG !!
mortonjag 2005-11-10 08:02:39 I'll stick my neck out and state that ALL so called 'faith' schools should be banned.

Education, NOT indoctrination is the way forward IMO.
mortonjag 2005-11-10 08:50:49
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Nov 10 2005, 08:15 AM) [snapback]55216[/snapback]

We've had this argument before.... caused alot of controversy.

Probably an issue to be left alone if we all want to remain friends smile.gif

EXACTLY CC, and if it's NOT addressed it will just continue to fester.

Surely if we 'all want to remain friends'. we shouldn't be endorsing divisive educational policies.

Are you being coy, or can you let us into the big secret-how did you vote? sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-10 09:01:49 The sooner they admit that pair to the Premiership the better-they've got plenty of money, huge fan bases, one or two Scottish players, and a huge legacy of bigotry.

Last night the Tims were ecstatic-not because they achieved anything in real footballing terms-Wha---t cup?-but because they put one over the Huns.

Truth is I see better matches in the second division regularly.

Truth also is that Alex McLeish is, IMO, an OK manager-but wait for it-his head'll be next to roll. mad.gif

Just went on line-Daryl Broadfoot writing in the 'Herald', states that Murray has nine days left to sack McLeish, and suggests he is DEFINITELY going.

I know Alex would never pander to somebody like Romanov-but HOW I WISH!
mortonjag 2005-11-10 10:03:40
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Nov 10 2005, 09:49 AM) [snapback]55228[/snapback]

You really are a cock aren't you.

Just the kind of intelligent comment I need to brighten up a dull morning DAFTAK-I presume you disagree, but aren't bright enough to articulate your
discord. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-10 10:37:41
QUOTE(steveoath @ Nov 10 2005, 09:31 AM) [snapback]55224[/snapback]

Do you actually teach in one? (If so share your experiences).

I do, and I have taught in non-denomenational schools in the past. Personally I find the working environment within a "faith school" (as you put it) is far more welcoming than any non-denomenational school I have taught in.

If you think that this type of education causes a divide then maybe its you that has the religious problem. Hatred and intolerance are not part of the curriculum in any school regardless of theological preference, so to say that it is the schools which are causing the divide is both ignorant and naive.

As for encouraing "divisive educationally policies" again you appear way off the mark. All schools follow the same curriculum across all subjects EXCEPT in religious and moral education. Can I ask how you think that is divisive? Moreover, "Faith schools" are not only open to members of whichever faith the school bases its moral teaching on, but the community it is a part of.

Steve

Steve, I welcome your opinions which are entirely valid, and it's pleasant to have someone oppose mine in a civilised fashion. I would state immediately that I have no religious affiliation of any kind.

I have no personal experience of teaching, but in answer to your first point, my wife, and four of my siblings are teachers, one of my brothers was a deputy director of education, and another effectively 'runs' one of our city universities.

My wife has taught in both state and Catholic schools, and shared your experience in terms of working environment.

When it comes to ignorance and naivety, you base your comments on a misunderstanding of my thoughts. I have never stated that school curricula are designed to promote hatred and intolerance, but as you correctly state, they do differ on religious and moral issues, and it is that very point, put so innocuously by you which is, IMO, the nub of the whole matter.

It's one thing making children factually aware about RELIGIONS, and a totally different one providing 'religious and moral education'. The latter-however well intentioned IS divisive, by definition.

Whether or not 'faith' schools are willing to throw open their doors is academic to the argument IMO, though I'm sure many others would take a more cynical view.

I hope you don't think I'm being patronising Steve, when I say that I shared your views as a younger man, but I really do think I'm more open minded in my dotage!
mortonjag 2005-11-10 10:59:24
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Nov 10 2005, 10:25 AM) [snapback]55234[/snapback]

You know nothing about me, but feel free to surmise.

I abhor people who try to hide their ignorance and racism behind attempted humour and big words. Is that any clearer for you or would you like it in pictures.

DAFTAK if you are referring that to me you clearly are as THICK as mince.

Have you read my posts, (including the most recent one to Steve?)

You clearly can't spot 'tongue in cheek' when one side of the mouth looks like it's about to burst.

Get a life, or better, a brain! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-10 11:04:35
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Nov 10 2005, 10:43 AM) [snapback]55244[/snapback]

It was a toothpaste ad.
TV Ark has got old school ads (regional and national).

Correct Naitch-saw a super documentary on old adverts a couple of months ago.

One that really sticks in my mind from way back was for 'Craven A' cigarettes, which were sold on being 'Kind to your throat'!

'Let Capstan take the strain', was another, and-a bit naff-'Players please'.
mortonjag 2005-11-10 11:33:42
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Nov 10 2005, 11:17 AM) [snapback]55252[/snapback]

Keep digging yourself in - you're now starting to make me laugh. If you knew anything about me you would realise how daft you are starting to look.

I have read some of your posts, where you like to belittle those who disagree with you. And I do notice that when you do offend people you try to hide behind the old cloak of "I was being funny, don't you get it. Naw, then you must be thick".

As for the get a life jibe - Mine's fine.

Like it-

'Mine's fine'. Who's the pompous git now DAFTAK?

I fully intend to 'belittle' anybody who's up for it-I thought it was all in the game-and it certainly isn't hiding behind a cloak-it IS only in fun, as I HOPE you realise.

If you don't, your life is anything but fine mate, but I'm glad I'm 'starting to make you laugh'.

Hope you enjoy the new experience! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-10 11:36:29
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Nov 10 2005, 11:31 AM) [snapback]55254[/snapback]

I think I voted yes as I misread the question but in any case, I don't think they should be banned personally, but can see pros and cons on both sides of the argument.

Guess you're studying politics CC! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-10 11:58:48
QUOTE(mrsmoo @ Nov 10 2005, 11:38 AM) [snapback]55257[/snapback]

Not voting

Whilst it is a very important issue I really do not want to see this discussed on a Morton messageboard. I'd much rather football and religion were in no way related.

You only have to look at the Old Firm messageboards to see how these "debates" degenerate.

I understand mrsmoo-IMO your last sentence is clearly a 'yes' vote anyway.
mortonjag 2005-11-10 12:05:39
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Nov 10 2005, 11:47 AM) [snapback]55259[/snapback]

Close - Law, should really pay attention early in the morning.

Good luck-take it you're at one of the Glasgow schools. One of my boys has a law degree from Strathclyde and now works for the SCCRC.

Pains me also to tell you that despite my best efforts he can't see past Ibrox, and just to put a plug in for my ecumenism, my daughter married a Glasgow law graduate who's a 'died in the wool bhoy' and she goes with him to the other 'super midden'! sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-10 12:16:08
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Nov 10 2005, 11:45 AM) [snapback]55258[/snapback]

Obviously your definition of pompous is slightly different to mine.

Humour is very difficult to get right on a messageboard and putting a smiley onto a statement like "In that case she should f*ck off back where she wants to belong-oops sorry if I offended-maybe you're an asylum seeker and I'll get the jail for discrimination." doesn't really work.

Let's put this to bed and apologies for calling you a cock. But you did offend me.

Fair enough-it WAS entirely tongue in cheek.

My first point was an allusion to second and third generation Poles, Jews, Pakistanis, or whoever, who still don't see themselves as British-take that to its logical conclusion and I'm a Viking who stayed after the Battle of Largs.

I agree my second point can be construed as racist or whatever, but it was made in direct response to another 'tongue in cheek' post, and not as a generality-sorry if I offended-and I assure you I am FAR from racist.
mortonjag 2005-11-10 13:52:22
QUOTE(RankinBorn75 @ Nov 10 2005, 01:28 PM) [snapback]55270[/snapback]

MotronJag .. Lulu is naturally attractive ??

Is drinking your own pish natural ??

For urophagists-absolutely.

I don't know what age boozehound is, but at least he can see what I'm talking about-and after all- I am an 'oldie'. That's what the thread's supposed to be about.

Another one who's kept her looks is Joanna Lumley.

As a matter of interest, do you youngsters know at what average age a woman's sexuality peaks?

I'm not telling you until I get some informed feedback! smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-10 14:19:56
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Nov 10 2005, 01:47 PM) [snapback]55274[/snapback]

I voted No.

As background I attended a faith school and received a very good education - one that also taught me an understanding of other religions, albeit this didn't happen until I was in 5th year and deemed wise enough to understand. However, whether because of the specific education I received, the perspective on religion I was given by my parents and grandparents, or through arriving at my own conclusions - I argue that the tribalism you talk about has nothing to do with whether someone attended a faith school or not. It may be compounded by attendance, but it is not the primary cause.

Do you really believe (now that takes faith) by making everyone attend a non-denominational school you will eradicate the sectarianism prevalent in today's society. All the kids can play happily amongst one another 5 days a week, but at the weekend they will still go to different churches. Take into account that many religious teachings, particularly Islam, promote prayer at various times during the day. Would you stop some kids from praying while at school or have them join a 'separate' class for prayer? Or would you take the French approach and ban the wearing of outwardly visible religious symbolism in state-funded schools?

While I can see benefits in not having faith based schools I do not agree with banning them. I would say if you wanted to ban faith based schools, you have to remove religious beliefs from society. Something that a free and democratic state cannot demand. However we do need to teach greater awareness and tolerance of other faiths, including agnosticism and aethism.

cool.gif ScotinBelgie

Excellent and well reasoned post SIB, and I love your term 'tribalism'.

For me, the problem is that most, if not all so called religions ARE tribalistic, in that they narrowly follow one doctrine to the exclusion of all others, and believe they must be right because their particular 'God' told them.

Things get very confused when you suggest that children should not be stopped from praying at school and imply that it would wrong to force them to pray in separate classes.

IMO no religion has a right to exclusivity.

If for example, my religion sincerely promotes naturism, are you going to stop me going to my state funded school, naked except for my satchel-I guess you are-and yes I entirely agree with the common sense of the normally 'laissez faire' French.

What I find more difficult is the self funding 'faith' school-I do believe people have a democratic right to that if they want it enough, but that does not alter the fact that it is, IMO, divisive.

mortonjag 2005-11-10 14:33:33
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Nov 10 2005, 01:57 PM) [snapback]55277[/snapback]

Nice to see a fair and balanced voting system in action - where an abstention can be read as a yes or no. I wouldn't infer anything from Mrs Moo's statement, except perhaps the speed at which 'debates' on this topic degenerate on Old Firm sites.

rolleyes.gif ScotinBelgie

An abstention should be just that, a keeping out altogether, not a voicing of opinion followed by what IMO seems a confusing statement.

I accept that you disagree Scot, but as you know I DO associate much of the Old Firm bigotry with separate schools, and do not, therefore, think it was unreasonable to read mrsmoo's post as a vote by any other name.
mortonjag 2005-11-10 15:07:00
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Nov 10 2005, 02:50 PM) [snapback]55287[/snapback]

This is why I would like to see teaching greater awareness and tolerance, not banning faith schools. For example, the differences between Judaism, Christianity (both Roman and protestant) and Islam are more subtle than many accept today. However the spin of more modern prophets from Jesus, through Calvin and Knox right up to Billy Graham have changed perceptions. So now everyone else is wrong, whereas they merely see things differently. So we should make people aware of the common ground, rather than trying to make everyone the same. You can apply this thought process to race as well as creed.
If your hypothetical religon was recognized as a 'mainstream' religion, then society itself would have no problem with your naturism. In that case I would have no problem with you attending school in nothing but your satchel. Given however that today's western christian society still struggles with nudity it is unlikely that a religion with a core belief in natursm would be 'accepted' by the people. You should start one up and see!

cool.gif ScotinBelgie

And who are to be the judges of whether or not a religion is 'mainstream', Scot, and what's with this 'western CHRISTIAN society'.

If you want greater awareness and tolerance-I'm entirely with you-but I think your comments only highlight the need to keep religious issues out of education-they are fraught with difficulty and inevitably contentious.

mortonjag 2005-11-12 09:37:12
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Nov 11 2005, 11:15 AM) [snapback]55522[/snapback]

We've been here before Tonsil Sir.

Racism is alive in Scotland- is that because there are separate schools for people whose skin is a rich and interesting hue?

Missed the point IMO Tom.

Racism is about perception-we are all naturally afraid of the unknown and anything obviously different from ourselves. Some even argue that this is one of the basic survival instincts. I do not condone that. I am just stating a fact.

In a more modern form it spills over into ageism, sexism, and even sillier things like finding people offensive because they are, for example, pathologically overweight.

Religion is totally different. The need to have a God MAY be instinctive, but religion itself is about doctrine and indoctrination-teaching- to put it simply, and what better place to propagate mass indoctrination than in 'faith' schools of any persuasion?
mortonjag 2005-11-12 09:54:57 laugh.gif
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Nov 12 2005, 09:50 AM) [snapback]56163[/snapback]

Looks reasonably promising, haven't heard a high wind since about 9 o'clock last night.

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mortonjag 2005-11-12 10:00:43
QUOTE(nach0king @ Nov 11 2005, 09:47 PM) [snapback]55813[/snapback]

Still haven't figured out what "upwind" means, I see? Dumb bastard laugh.gif

Just stands for BACKWARD WINDUP Nacho! smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-12 10:08:54 Newton just straps a big wet sponge to his right foot-sorry mate I patented that years ago but nobody took it on!
mortonjag 2005-11-12 10:28:42
QUOTE(forza ton @ Nov 11 2005, 12:18 AM) [snapback]55467[/snapback]

if you migrate to a country theres no reason to become assimilated to that state. if i moved abroad i would respect the culture i moved to but i would still be a scot. same as foriegners who come here pay their taxes and contribute to society- but its their right to maintain their own nationality.

check the last census results from canada. whereas 11 million claimed to be canadian there was almost 5 million from a population of 30 million who claimed they were scots on their census form smile.gif

And say for example that country was China, and you married a Chinese woman-I guess your son would insist he was Scots through and through, and even when HE married a Chinese girl, no doubt THEIR son would insist HE was Scots through and through-despite being 3/4 Chinese!

In this multicultural modern society, pig headed adherence to long diluted race is simply anachronistic IMO.
mortonjag 2005-11-14 07:55:25
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Nov 12 2005, 10:25 AM) [snapback]56181[/snapback]

With all due respect I believe that you are missing the point. The connection is made between separate schooling and bigotry. From this it is assumed that mixed schooling will eleiminate bigotry.
I merely wanted to point out that mixed race schooling does not eliminate racism. Why?- racism is learned in the home and in peer groups- iMHO it's got bugger all to do with fear of the unknown anymore than sectarianism has.
Sectarianism, like racism is all about power, Scotland's ills come from our close tie in to Northern Ireland where religion was used to divide and conquer the people there. Sectarianism in NI became, like racism in the southern states of America, a way to differentiate a subject people.
Sadly we in scotland are, for historical reasons tied in with NI.
It has been mentioned here, correctly, that the one part of England with these problems is liverpool- which also has close links to NI.
For what it's worth I believe that continuing marriage between faiths has done much to reduce sectarianism and that the Scottish exec could do much more-
The reservoir for the virus of sectarianism is the old firm- thousands of people commit offences with their singing at the potato bowl and hunbrox each week by singing and shouting foul sectarian slogans- give the clubs a year to clean it up with matches to be played behind closed doors if that soesn't happen.
Cannae see it- can you.

Tom, I don't thing mixed schooling will ever ELIMINATE predjudice that is kindled elsewhere, but IMO it could go a long way towards that.

The pont I made is that racism emanates from a sensual perception of physical difference, whereas religion is normally a CREATION of difference among previously perceived peers.

I agree essentially with all that you say, and integration, whether it be by marriage, education, sport or any other medium is IMO the way ahead.


mortonjag 2005-11-14 08:49:00 I didn't think there was a single passenger in the team.

For me the biggest disappointment was that we had at least 15 corners from the left, and failed to capitalise-THAT'S POOR, IMO.

And on that point, it highlighted our weakness up the right again, but I must add that my favourite 'fall guy' Kev was inspirational just when Alloa were trying to get back into the game.

OK he's s***e when going forward, but as a midfield 'spoiler' he can be just dynamic-well done Kevin!
mortonjag 2005-11-14 09:03:44 ANYTHING can happen in football-look what happened to Berwick on Saturday.

I've argued in the past that Gretna have just too much strength in depth to miss the Championship, but IF we could take six points from them, and other teams start 'having a go', who knows?

It's certainly far from over.
mortonjag 2005-11-14 09:11:36 I'm surprised to hear you say that Gretna have a better midfield than us.

The problem with our lot has been inconsistency, but on form they are IMO, far more creative than Gretna, who rely heavily on containing play, spreading balls wide, and capitalising from crosses/knock downs.

The best way to beat them is to hit them hard (with a bit of belief)-sure they'll ALWAYS get goals, but you still win if you score more!
mortonjag 2005-11-14 09:22:28 Judging by the traffic pattern in town and on the motorway on Saturday, I don't think it was the international, so much as early Christmas shopping that kept the crowds down.

I've never had such a quiet journey through, yet the city was absolutely 'chokkers'!

JC has a lot to answer for! sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-14 09:30:18 Old age is a case of 'mind over matter'-if you don't mind it doesn't matter, and let's face it, you're only as old as the woman you feel! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-14 09:37:28 I don't think the so called 'kids' can be expected to give a f*ck about 'Remembrance Sunday'.

It still means a lot to me as my Mum and Dad, who are still alive, gave me graphic details of the War, but I'M old enough to be those kids' grandfather!
mortonjag 2005-11-14 09:57:17 I just don't know what went wrong on Saturday. Andy is more than able to deliver an effective corner, yet he seemed to totally lack imagination.

I counted 15 (there may have been more) corners from the left, and we didn't capitalise from one.

By any standards that's extremely poor.
mortonjag 2005-11-14 10:01:18
QUOTE(ton_millar#1 @ Nov 12 2005, 11:10 PM) [snapback]56620[/snapback]

awww thats a wee shame. he was all smiley even when he was getting abuse off of some guys round our side.

Yip, they were teasing him about the Tellytubbies, and he took it really well.

He always makes me laugh. Did you notice that when he and his wee mate came across just before kick off, they immediately got tucked into a Twix! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-14 10:08:54
QUOTE(midTONs @ Nov 14 2005, 09:56 AM) [snapback]57537[/snapback]

I see what you mean Mortonjag but whats is/was wrong with you and other parents in the same age group as yourselves passing those stories on to your kids and grandchildren, I still recall my grandfather and father telling me stories about the war, I admit to not sharing many of those stories with my kids but if I had any boys I'm sure it might have been a lot different, wee girls tend to want to here about snow white and little red riding hood.
but my oldest daughter (as will the other 3 when they are old enough to understand) is fully aware of the importance of what her great grandfathers and everyone else did for her during the war.

Sure I entirely agree with you, and I don't think it's inappropriate to educate the youngsters on our history.

The point I'm making is, however, that for them it is just history.

I would certainly be angry if somebody asked me to attend a Sunday service in commemoration of the 'Flowers of the forest'.
mortonjag 2005-11-14 10:15:22
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Nov 14 2005, 10:12 AM) [snapback]57544[/snapback]

The thing is- while remememberance Sunday is about those who lost their lives in WW1 & WW2- it's about thinking of those in active service as well- all they need to do is switch on their Tv and see what is happening in Iraq- what is nearly 100 British Soldiers dead from the current gulf war

That's certainly a good point.

Wasn't it ironic watching that grinning 'Bush Boy' Blair crying into his poppy!
mortonjag 2005-11-14 10:23:33
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Nov 14 2005, 10:16 AM) [snapback]57548[/snapback]

Anyone else been reading about this over the weekend and in today's papers!?!?!?

I think there's a hint of opportunity in this as he has been paid a five figure sum and he now refuses to get another test done which I find odd...and he's got a publicist ffs!

But apparently all the test results are correct and he really has become HIV Negative again. This is potentially the biggest scientific breakthrough in a long time if they can study this guy and see how his immune system beat the disease and mimic it artificially, or develop the drug he used even further.

I mean, he was even having unprotected sex with his HIV positive partner cos he figured "What the hell, we've both got it" and now it has reversed....unbelieveable.
Anyone know him? A workmate of mine's nephew is married to his sister or something like that, think his father owned the Heywood Hotel and the Station Bar in Wemyss Bay.

Which paper is it in?

I thought this was an immunological impossibility-if it IS true it's a fantastic breakthrough for researchers.
mortonjag 2005-11-14 10:26:30
QUOTE(Ton Ton Macoute @ Nov 14 2005, 10:12 AM) [snapback]57543[/snapback]

Damned right bwoy- but I and I is t'inking that ya should not say da to de new Jambo Man

Why-do you think he would 'take the hump'?!
mortonjag 2005-11-14 10:30:29
QUOTE(glencoe 1692 @ Nov 12 2005, 08:34 PM) [snapback]56545[/snapback]

you can save petrol if you switch the ignition off when you drive over a cliff face.

the down side is you can only save it once. rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

What if you're going UPHILL? huh.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-14 10:35:52 Alors mes enfants.

UN OEF SUREMENT? sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-14 10:37:36
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Nov 14 2005, 10:24 AM) [snapback]57555[/snapback]

I think it's in just about every paper.

Ta Donga-I'll just buy one mind you!
mortonjag 2005-11-15 07:12:01 Excerpt from last night's 'Tele'

OLIVE GREENOAK TURNS OUT FIR BIRCHING OF GAY HOAKSTER

Local man guilty of immunology scam
mortonjag 2005-11-15 07:50:54 I recall going to an evening game at Scapa for the first time on my own. I was about fourteen or fifteen.

Morton were running away with the old second division, and my Uncle Jimmy had given me a bar of Dairy Milk-saying 'Make it last son'.

I promised I would only eat one square after each Morton goal, and finish it at full time.

I had guzzled all eight pieces not long into the second half-and I HADN'T cheated!

I can't remember who we were playing-almost certain it was a team from Fife-could WELL have been Cowdenbeath! huh.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-15 08:00:12 I can't f*cking believe this-I've been getting dog's abuse for weeks because I've tried to criticise Kevin constructively, and the minute I say a good word about him, I get attacked by pish spouters.

Incidentally, Kev took an elbow in the face in the situation described, and unlike some 'Fannies', he got straight up and back into the fray.
mortonjag 2005-11-15 08:51:01 Benny and Mike Jackson were a formidable management team but none of it would have been possible without Hal Stewart.

He didn't hug the limelight, or even pretend to be a 'manager', but he was one of the shrewdest cookies of all time in Scottish football, and unlike the current situation at Gretna, he built a championship winning team from cast offs, unknowns, and 'over the hill' players.

I'm just hoping that this second book takes cognisance of that era, which IMO, was sadly neglected in the first (otherwise good) publication.
mortonjag 2005-11-15 09:02:27
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Nov 14 2005, 05:25 PM) [snapback]57775[/snapback]

Unsuprisingly, i disagree. smile.gif

Our midfield has been and will continue to be our achillies heel. Our players are very limited in ability when compared to Gretna's.

If we had Gretna's midfield 4 and they had ours it is us who would currently be sitting top of the league.

Our midfield has plenty of flair and energy but is still sadly lacking in creativity and composure.

Any time we've been up against opposition of note this season and we've been required to break them down we've failed miserably, struggling to even get a shot on target in the process.

Let's not get carried away with a win over a pish Alloa side.

How often have you watched Gretna this season, LargsTON?

You're being too critical of our boys-look at their average age-it's about 22, and compare that to Gretna's experience.

I don't disagree with all you say, but suggesting that transposing the midfields would put us top is IMO naive.

We've all been in agreement until lately that our main failing has been not sticking the ball in the net.

If our midfielders were playing with the Gretna strike force THEY would still be at the top.

As I said earlier, they have been inconsistent, but on form, they are as good as anything in this league.
mortonjag 2005-11-15 09:11:00 What's the problem-alcohol is a far bigger menance than fags on a global scale-why not just ban pubs and clubs-oh and bookies, and the lottery, and bingo too!

Mind you it is F*CKING annoying if you're sitting having a quiet pint and some c*nt blows smoke in your face-especially if it's not the same brand as you're on! smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-15 14:00:06
QUOTE(Alibi @ Nov 15 2005, 01:38 PM) [snapback]58213[/snapback]

As a medical student, Miss McB, you must surely know that lung cancer is far more prevalent in smokers than in non-smokers. It is likely even if not proven that heavy passive smokers are going to have a higher incidence of lung diseases - it sure as hell isn't going to do them any good. Yes, you can get lung cancer even if you never smoke and aren't exposed to a lot of passive smoke, but it's very rare. In most cases, another external cause is responsible - such as working with hazardous substances.

Smoking is a form of drug addiction and should be treated as such. Peddling cigarettes is legalised murder.

I beg to differ Alibi-smoking cigarettes may well be legalised suicide, just like drinking alcohol to excess, or driving a Ferrari irresponsibly, but the ultimate decision is in the hands of the consumer.

There's a mixed morality about issues like this-the dangers inherent in those three examples are well known, yet they are all encouraged by those with vested interests.

I certainly abhor some forms of alcohol, tobacco, AND car sales promotion, but
informed choice still exists.

Just by the way, with reference to a previous point, I would not be surprised if the social and psychological effects alone, of alcohol abuse cost the NHS far more every year than all smoking related diseases put together.
mortonjag 2005-11-15 14:10:27 Not NEARLY as much as an oyster! mad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-15 14:16:42
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Nov 15 2005, 02:11 PM) [snapback]58227[/snapback]

Sorry, hadn't seen your post.
Yep, smokers are much more likely to get lung cancer than non-smokers.

But the evidence just isn't there to prove that heavy passive smokers have a higher incidence of lung diseases. Admittedly, that doesn't mean they don't.
Just because passive smoking isn't going to do you any good, it doesn't follow that it's going to increase your risk of developing lung disease.
Yes, non-smokers who aren't exposed to passive smoke and develop lung cancer are rare. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen though.
Most people who are exposed to hazardous substances and develop lung disease end up with asbestosis, mesothelioma or emphysema, not lung cancer.
And a lot of the guys who worked either in shipbuilding or mining and thus were exposed to substances that could knacker your lungs were also smokers.
Smoking is an addiction, no question.

Correct, and I admire your clinical logic, but common sense surely suggests that heavy passive smoking is far more dangerous to lung tissue than clean air.

I predict that it's only a matter of time 'til we get conclusive trial results.
mortonjag 2005-11-15 15:47:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ Nov 14 2005, 09:31 PM) [snapback]57975[/snapback]

millions read this sentence every day.

Then it's got to be something like 'It's time to get up!'

Sentenced to another day of this drear existence!
mortonjag 2005-11-15 15:59:47
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Nov 15 2005, 02:37 PM) [snapback]58243[/snapback]

The main problem I have with accepting the hypothesis that passive smoking --> lung disease / heart disease etc. is how much smoke does a non-smoker inhale over the course of an evening in a smoky bar/club/whatever?
Do they actually inhale enough to damage their lungs if they're in that environment often - essentially, i guess, if they work there.
(The one arguement for banning smoking in pubs that I'd agree with is protecting the health of the people who work there, if passive smoking is shown to be dangerous. Drinkers who don't like smoky pubs can take their custom elsewhere.)

Common sense btw - what's that? unsure.gif

It's the relatively uncommon ability to make accurate assumptions based on available evidence, without the need for scientific proof.

For example, if a non-smoker spends an evening in a smoke filled room, ends up coughing uncontrollably, and next morning, for the first time, brings up copious catarrh, common sense would suggest that it's not very good for him-it doesn't prove it-but it IS common sense!
mortonjag 2005-11-16 07:36:26 This has been one of the best and most sensible threads for some time, and most people have stuck to the topic.

The poll results speak for themselves.

The one unresolved issue seems to be whether or not 'passive' smoking is dangerous to health.

Laura, who I gather is a Medical Student, has correctly pointed out that researchers have yet to PROVE that it is.

I was in a similar situation to Laura some thirty five years ago, when everybody 'KNEW' that fags caused lung cancer, yet without conclusive clinical proof, the debate raged on for several years.

Even then, they argued for a long period that cigars and the pipe were OK-'til that got knocked on the head as well!

When you stick an experimental animal in a smoke filled chamber-at what point does it stop being a 'PASSIVE' smoker?

Let's not be bamboozled by semantics-tobacco smoke into lungs equals inhalation of carcinogen, which, by definition increases the RISK of carcinoma.

That's about cancer. As far as chronic respiratory disease is concerned, I guess the cause and effect thing is even more applicable.
mortonjag 2005-11-16 08:01:08
QUOTE(Belushi @ Nov 15 2005, 04:42 PM) [snapback]58319[/snapback]

Last night my mate got chucked out of the white stripes gig at the academy after being accused of throwing a drink at the stage/band, though it wasnt him.

He has written a letter of complaint to the academy stating that he doesnt condone this kind of behaviour etc and how he appreciates the security taking action over these matters, however, that he didnt do it and has witnesses to prove so.

He's unsure though whether to ask for a refund of his money in the letter or is that too presumptious.Should the promoter/venue offer first?

Just wondering if anyone has had to write a letter like this before?

Like an elephant's arse, this is a grey area.

In terms of compensation, he undoubtedly has a case and should AT LEAST pursue a full refund.

As far as being 'chucked out' is concerned, it's a bit more 'iffy', but I would certainly be pointing out that that is technically assault, if he was innocent, and would be asking for-if nothing more- an apology in writing.

If they've any decency and common sense he should get all that I've suggested plus some sweetener like free tickets for another gig.
mortonjag 2005-11-16 08:20:59 If the beans are not spilled soon to put us out of our misery, it's going to be 'Newton's a wanker'!
mortonjag 2005-11-16 08:27:49 If the prescribed disciplinary procedures were followed, they would have had plenty of time to 'mend their ways'.

Everybody is a bit 'naughty' at work from time to time-we all take wee liberties-but it sounds to me like the 'cooncil' are well rid of those 'eejits'.

As another poster stated- it's our money they're wasting anyway-not the council's.
mortonjag 2005-11-16 09:28:29
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Nov 16 2005, 09:00 AM) [snapback]58840[/snapback]

Who cares. I remember this whole can of worms being opened on the old site. Why does everyone have to try and score points off of him becase he's become successful.

I thought he was good in Sweet Sixteen and obviously has talent as an actor, and the missus even likes him in that thing on the Beeb on a Sunday.

I'm looking forward to this as I really rate Ken Loach. Watched "Kes" again the other night and its still a top film.

I don't think the guys are trying to 'score points' at all-just making observations, and expressing opinions.

If Compston has the misfortune to be thick, and a Celtic supporter, but makes his name as an actor, good luck to the boy-look at Rod Stewart after all!

My own opinion, for what it's worth, is that 'Sweet Sixteen' was just a poor man's 'Clockwork Orange'.

Loach spotted the opening and it was right for its time, but in global terms it's hardly a blockbuster destined for Halls of Fame.

Martin has, IMO, still to prove he is a proficient actor, and not just a wee Greenock boy- flattering to deceive in a role which it was 'second nature' for him to play.
mortonjag 2005-11-16 09:35:03 IMO Jimmy Cowan's record speaks for itself-standing high above the opinions of 'Hall of Fame' creators.

Let's not tarnish that by even suggesting he should be placed among lesser mortals!
mortonjag 2005-11-17 07:45:07 Just came back to this thread-maybe haven't wakened up properly, but is somebody saying 'Made in China' is a SENTENCE?!!!!!

Not where I went to skool!
mortonjag 2005-11-17 07:53:23
QUOTE(Doc @ Nov 16 2005, 03:09 PM) [snapback]58973[/snapback]

My guess is there is bugger-all chance of getting so much as a reply. Usually, the back of the ticket will state that the establishment reserves the right to refuse entry or remove you at their discretion...they also usually tack on that refunds will not be given, or given at their discretion. By buying a ticket you are agreeing to their terms.

Basically, they can do whatever they feel like.

I once got thrown out a gig because my drunk mate (a girl), with a well-established record of falling over when pissed up, fell over and I went over to pick her up. Bouncer said that I had pushed her over and carried me out, even though my mate and every single person around us were shouting that I was helping her. Gig security are usually complete knobs.

Doc, it's just too easy to give in to all that small print, and that's what they expect.

Nothing they write alters YOUR rights in the eyes of the law.

If you pay for a ticket to see a gig, and are removed against your will for no reason, that is firstly a breach of their contract under consumer law, and secondly a technical assault.

GO FOR IT GUYS!
mortonjag 2005-11-17 07:59:26 There's a definite association between alcohol consumption and oral carcinoma-it's clinically proven, and it's uncommon-that's where it starts and stops.

This is typical of irresponsible media hype.

As Boutros said, they'd ban the Sun if they could!
mortonjag 2005-11-17 09:26:52
QUOTE(Jackie @ Nov 17 2005, 12:05 AM) [snapback]59205[/snapback]

To be fair Celtic do have some sort of policy regarding player appearance. This was one of the reason which led to Maciej Zurawski getting his hair cut, so a Celtic supporting friend told me,

But to tell a child what to do is unbelievable. We should be encouraging them to experiment and learn for themselves, not tell them what to do.

I for one hope, as a poster says above, that this boy comes back to haunt his old club.

'To tell a child what to do is unbelievable'.

That's a strange statement.

My perception is that kids who don't get decent parental instruction and ARE allowed to 'experiment and learn for themselves' often end up in no end of bother.

Children need an understanding of basic values, and at least some sense of respect for authority. It's unfair and irresponsible of parents to sidestep that.

Once they're old enough-by all means let them make their own mistakes-for which THEY will be responsible. mad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-17 12:19:58
QUOTE(Jackie @ Nov 17 2005, 10:51 AM) [snapback]59242[/snapback]

Mortonjag I didn't mean in general.

I meant stupid things like "hairstyles" etc. Seeing as this is what the topic is about.

That's a fair point and I WAS talking in general terms.

Do you think, however, as some of the posters appear to suggest that it should be 'laissez faire' with no rules and no discipline.

He is only a ten year old kid, after all, and he has blatantly flouted authority-even if it can be argued that it was a bit OTT.

I still feel pretty strongly that the principle is right-if the kids made the rules it would be mayhem IMO.
mortonjag 2005-11-17 12:25:40
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Nov 17 2005, 12:17 PM) [snapback]59249[/snapback]

Your school was rubbish then! smile.gif

Bit disappointed in the answer though.

Donga, a sentence at my skool required a subject.

'Made in China' (in those days) was a phrase!
mortonjag 2005-11-17 16:22:17 Do you get one for right hand drive as well?
mortonjag 2005-11-17 16:28:56 At the moment there's not been much except surface frost-it depends very much on tonight and tomorrow. With covers in place overnight, and sun during the day, we could still have a game.
mortonjag 2005-11-18 07:48:00
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Nov 17 2005, 10:18 PM) [snapback]59501[/snapback]

Never been to Cowdenbeath before, but this is from a collection of football-related essays I've been reading - a Raith fan writing about going to a game at Central Park:

'Kirkcaldy is not a prosperous place, but Cowdenbeath makes it look like Cheltenham...we drove into streets that would disgrace Gdansk
Central Park looked like it had been abandoned a decade before...
The stand was a small and ancient fire hazard beside which the portacabins which served as changing rooms looked rather flash...'

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But the Stock Car racing does make the annual Tractor Grand Prix at Raydale look mundane.
mortonjag 2005-11-21 07:34:51 Yes Deego you're correct. In the game against Alloa we had at least fifteen corners on the left and one, (maybe two), on the right.

The team's starting to take shape in defence and midfield (where Kev was superb in that game) but NOTHING happens up the right.
mortonjag 2005-11-21 07:50:40 I love the reserve games-it gives me a chance to see the youngsters in action, and it's only two quid to get in.

Because the crowd is small, and we're all in a clump, you can hear everything, including the players, and sometimes it can be a real laugh.

If the game's on tonight guys, MAKE THE EFFORT, and lets skin the baby Skunks!
mortonjag 2005-11-21 11:04:56
QUOTE(MaxTon @ Nov 21 2005, 11:01 AM) [snapback]60587[/snapback]

People get locked up for saying things like that!!

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mortonjag 2005-11-21 15:30:40
QUOTE(Bryan @ Nov 21 2005, 12:27 PM) [snapback]60608[/snapback]

There is an idea lets sign a right winger we only have 6 players that can play there rolleyes.gif

Bryan-come on let us into your big secret, we're talking about a WINGER, not a right sided player.

As far as I can see the only guy who can is Andy, and it's not a role he seems to be expected to play.

Who are those other five talents who can beat a man up the right and get decent crosses over-OK Chris Millar perhaps-if HE was allowed, Jim McAlister perhaps-if HE was allowed-and WHO else.

It's bloody obvious we produce nothing from the right wing. I've done nothing but praise Kev Finlayson since the Alloa game, but he is a plain disaster going forward wide.
mortonjag 2005-11-21 15:36:44 What fannies think up those things.

I can't wait for national 'flash your tits' day! sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-21 17:26:29 I see the sense in every point that's been made so far. In principle I agree with disposing of calculating killers.

If a conviction of premeditated murder was made-where no doubt existed-for example two independent witnesses saw the accused do it, and it was backed up by CCTV-I would be happy with a death penalty.

The problem is that convictions are rarely so clear cut.
mortonjag 2005-11-21 19:08:37 This is an area where it is just impossible to generalise.

Some women are teaching in Secondary Schools from the age of 21, and some guys don't leave school 'til they're 18, yet as Tom Mcb points out, a liaison in such a situation would still be construed as abuse of the teacher pupil relationship.

NewTON is either totally naive, or plainly tongue in cheek, expecting a 'yes or know' answer.

My answer------

'It depends.....!' rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-22 08:51:24
QUOTE(Tanna @ Nov 22 2005, 01:26 AM) [snapback]60959[/snapback]

the death penalty is the only thing that will strike fear back into these idiots who seem to think its ok to murder people, even those who are doing their jobs...

maybe in a way if the death penalty was introduced then it could get a grip of knife weilding neds, knowing that if they do knife someone (and kill them) then they WILL be made to pay for it rather than a sentence where they can get back out eventually and get back to their old ways...

and for the record, thornton, are u sure ur not sitting a PhD in fuddery? or the art of being a fud?

Good post Tanna, though I think you actually spell it Ph(u)D.

My ex -wife's father was a chaplain at Barlinnie for over ten years, (and incidentally witnessed the hanging of the mass murderer Peter Manuel).

He got to know the inmates well, and often won their confidence. They told him categorically, that the one thing that stopped them carrying guns and other potentially lethal weapons in those days was the fear of being 'topped'.
mortonjag 2005-11-22 09:29:25
QUOTE(midTONs @ Nov 22 2005, 09:25 AM) [snapback]60988[/snapback]

A lot of good arguments for both sides, but I would love to hear from a few of the 9 folk who voted for the death penalty for police killers but not for all premeditated murder, what if anything makes the loss of a policeman/womans life any worse than the life of a bank clerk or bin man?

I guess the theoretical argument is that the policeman is there to STOP the bank clerk or bin man from getting killed.

If you dilute the force of law you increase the risk of innocents dying IMO
mortonjag 2005-11-22 09:33:43 My Mum and Dad told me that the furthest back our ancestry went was to a guy called Adam--but then my Mum and Dad told me a lot of things! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-22 09:39:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Nov 22 2005, 12:55 AM) [snapback]60951[/snapback]

whit's with all these PE teachers ? ?

did no one ever fancy their Latin or French mistress ?

I won't even mention Ancient Greek.

oops - I just did.
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NewTON you must feel a right tit if you fancy an Amazon! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-22 09:45:12 huh.gif
QUOTE(se56an @ Nov 22 2005, 09:40 AM) [snapback]60996[/snapback]

Swanny Bean, he's your Maw's, Maw's Father

mortonjag 2005-11-22 09:47:53 Actually I was looking at my wee pal (the avatar), and it reminded me of a cartoon set in a zoo.

One monkey is saying to the other, 'Am I my keeper's brother?'!
mortonjag 2005-11-22 09:50:28
QUOTE(midTONs @ Nov 22 2005, 09:43 AM) [snapback]60997[/snapback]

The Art teacher did it for me wink.gif

Congratulations-and you've obviously never forgotten that momentous day!
mortonjag 2005-11-22 10:30:29
QUOTE(se56an @ Nov 22 2005, 09:51 AM) [snapback]61002[/snapback]

You never heard of swanny bean...

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

Pardon my ignorance, but no! sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-22 10:51:24
QUOTE(se56an @ Nov 22 2005, 10:47 AM) [snapback]61011[/snapback]

Am sure someone else can go into more detail.

Swanny Bean and his family where imfamous in Scottish history.

You can find him now in the 'Edinburgh Dungeons'

Anyway, he and his family stalked the woods of southern Scotland capturing travellers etc. Then killing them and storing their bodies for food and their skin for other use.

Eventually got caught after years of killing people, when someone they just captured broke free from their caputures, and led the local people to a cave where they found several generations of Beans, all who where living of human meat.

Thanks for that-they were eating 'human beans'-ugh-mind you I wish they were still around and they could have a feast at Raydale-finish off with a big Sugar Daddy too!
mortonjag 2005-11-22 11:01:37
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Nov 22 2005, 10:56 AM) [snapback]61021[/snapback]

The good thing about the ignore list is that only people with valid opinions get through it smile.gif

Why I unignored Tanna I'll never know!

Anyways, since I did, I'll give him a response...

In many countries where the death penalty is still prevalent, mainly Islamic countries for the purposes of this point, murderers consider the death penalty to be a form of martyrdom - making them heroes in their own twisted minds.

A prime example would be the "laughing bomber" in Bali, a couple of years ago, he had the biggest smile on his face when he was sentenced to death, and he made his entire family and community proud that he had been made a martyr for killing ~200 people in a club bombing, including several Brits.

The death penalty is a slow, drawn out process which costs the tax-payers millions each year in the USA. Millions which we cannot afford, when we are currently in the process of closing several community hospitals. (I assume you've heard of the IRH rolleyes.gif )

A "life means life" sentence is far more appropriate, for example Ian Huntley was sentenced under new laws to 40 years imprisonment, meaning that he will die in prison, all the while being punished for his crimes. Would a death sentence have brought the Chapmans and the Wells' family back their children, or even made them feel a tad less like they let down their children, I doubt it very much!

Enough ranting, as I have a cold.

Thank f*ck-away to bed son and try to work out why you think only YOUR opinions are valid. (have a good wank at the same time-sounds like you need it! blink.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-22 11:11:02
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Nov 22 2005, 11:08 AM) [snapback]61031[/snapback]

laugh.gif i love that guy

hes in my top 3 comedians of all time at the moment
1. billy conelly
2. bill bailley
3. george "Dubaya" bush

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Absolutely-it's tragic that 'Spitting Image' has gone.

They would have had a 'field day' with Bush and Blair!
mortonjag 2005-11-22 11:15:57
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Nov 22 2005, 10:43 AM) [snapback]61010[/snapback]

I was on it a while back as well, and i actually thought Sarah O was a lot hotter in real life, think she looks a bit chubby on tv but she isn't at all. Also i was sitting rite at the front so i kept getting her arse in my face, so i was hardly on the tv (worth it!)

Hope you had brushed your teeth!
mortonjag 2005-11-22 11:33:00
QUOTE(se56an @ Nov 22 2005, 11:09 AM) [snapback]61032[/snapback]

I wonder if Mileson can track his history back. Maybe not a Sugar Daddy, but a Sugar Bean

Just looked up some gen on Mr Bean, and discovered his first name was ALEXANDER-f*ck's sake maybe he's come back to haunt Mr Mileson-teasing him with success and then GOBBLE GOBBLE!
mortonjag 2005-11-22 11:49:21
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Nov 22 2005, 11:44 AM) [snapback]61058[/snapback]

The good news is that if the Partick game next Saturday can go ahead then it will. There won't be a further Saturday attempt at this Cowdenbeath match should it get postponed again.

There is snow forecast for our part of the country later in the week apparently.............

And word has it that tornado Ton is heading up the Solway biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-22 11:56:56 We seem to cater for a wide variety of tastes on the forum-just interested to find out what everybody thinks.

For me it's definitely 40 -50, but then I've got one foot in the grave! sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-22 12:09:19
QUOTE(edd @ Nov 22 2005, 12:07 PM) [snapback]61080[/snapback]

i agree, mid-twenties seems like the best sort of age to me.

mind you, i'm only 19 and have thing for older women ...

A wise man indeed-just wait 'til you're 35!!! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-22 12:17:25
QUOTE(piehutt @ Nov 22 2005, 12:03 PM) [snapback]61077[/snapback]

Yep, there is no way that Kev is a long term solution in the midfield.

Def need another midfielder (central or right sided) and either him or Millar can play on the right.

NB, left sided players. As we all know natural left sided players are about as rare as soap in paisley. I think Jim is playing really well and is as good a player that we'll find for that role.

I also feel we need more cover at the back. We've got one guy out and Alex Walker has had to be left out of the midfield in order to fill in at the back. Ok he's doing pretty well but it does mean we have to play Kev in the midfield and he's just not an option going forward.

To be honest 'piehutt', and I know we share opinions on Kev, I thought he played a 'blinder' at Alloa when they were trying to get back into the game.

It's a shame-what he does well is wasted when he tries to go forward-but if we had a traditional no. 7 like wee 'Baldy' at Gretna, Kev might come into his own.

Let's face it-there's never anybody out there for him to push the ball to, and that's the main reason he gets 'lost'.
mortonjag 2005-11-22 12:22:17
QUOTE(edd @ Nov 22 2005, 12:15 PM) [snapback]61087[/snapback]

why, what happens then?

Well by that time you'll be fancying dames in their early forties-that's when they peak man-believe me! smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-22 12:29:55
QUOTE(piehutt @ Nov 22 2005, 11:53 AM) [snapback]61065[/snapback]

... there's something about her. It's like that list of women that you secretly fancy but wouldn't shout about it.

There was a list published recently, although Lorraine Kelly was top which I aint too sure about. I think Jo Whiley was second.

'There's something about her'-- correct 'piehutt'-and for those innocents who haven't noticed it's blatant 'Shag me-I'm up for it'!

Word has it she's a 'closet Dyke' anyway, but I suppose---'any port in a storm' !!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-22 12:33:20
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Nov 22 2005, 12:25 PM) [snapback]61098[/snapback]

Mid/Late 30's onwards for me.

Excellent-the voice of experience methinks! smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-22 12:54:24
QUOTE(Bryan @ Nov 22 2005, 12:24 PM) [snapback]61097[/snapback]

Finlayson, Millar, McLaren, A Walker, McLean and McAllister rolleyes.gif The only right sided player we need is a right back.

Finlayson a winger-nuff said----Millar, and McAlister I've already mentioned, but neither is an out and out winger.

Alex Walker-a right winger-you're joking-the guy's really good, but doesn't have the pace or nippiness.

Kenny McLean IS pacy, and nippy-I know he's still young-but we're talking about NOW Bryan, and so far he hasn't 'cut it' in the top grade.

That leaves Andy who could undoubtedly play right wing-it will be interesting to see if he ends up there as the season unfolds.
mortonjag 2005-11-22 12:59:39
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Nov 22 2005, 12:48 PM) [snapback]61121[/snapback]

She would have been so disappointed in you Puggsy! wink.gif The way into a woman's pants is to impress her about stuff she likes or has an interest in.

Exactly-show her yer Willie! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-22 13:04:38
QUOTE(Graham Rix @ Nov 22 2005, 12:39 PM) [snapback]61110[/snapback]

Old enough to bleed, old enough to breed.

Are your puppies pregnant perchance? mad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-22 14:15:58
QUOTE(Julie-Anne @ Nov 22 2005, 01:24 PM) [snapback]61149[/snapback]

I agree! smile.gif

Hi Julie-Anne-are you talking about men or women? -I'm NOT being my usual flippant self by the way-many young(ish) women have told me that they find some men in their fifties and sixties very appealing.
mortonjag 2005-11-22 14:35:50
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 22 2005, 02:25 PM) [snapback]61166[/snapback]

Girl in my uni class (same age as me, bang on) furked a 55 year old the other weekend...it's odd how proud she is.

Just goes to show Puggsy-and glad (but not surprised) she wasn't disappointed!
mortonjag 2005-11-22 14:39:30
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Nov 22 2005, 01:23 PM) [snapback]61148[/snapback]

My art teacher in Notre Dame was a wee pump, Ms McConnachie. Got married, then divorced, can't mind her married name.

Did she have any pumpkins?
mortonjag 2005-11-22 14:54:33
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Nov 22 2005, 02:50 PM) [snapback]61178[/snapback]

tongue.gif to be perfectly honest all the scottish regional news programs are balls anyway so id be quite happy to watch tits on the english "national" news than watch the likes of scotland today.

So you'd rather watch that epitomy of Caribbean complacent smugness than one of our home grown journalists-oh well! huh.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-22 15:31:07 Just waiting for an article on the dangers of passive breast feeding.

INCONSIDERATE CALEDONIAN SQUIRTED CARCINOGENIC COLOSTRUM IN MY CUSTARD
mortonjag 2005-11-22 15:39:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Nov 22 2005, 03:24 PM) [snapback]61192[/snapback]

? ? ? ?

You've lost me, mortonjag ?

I had Tupenny Watson for French, the same bloke my father had.

Who or what is the Amazon ?

An Inverclyde in joke ??
mellow.gif mellow.gif mellow.gif

The Amazons were Greek women warriors, who cut of a breast so that they could handle their weapons more efficiently. Translates from minus a breast.!
mortonjag 2005-11-22 18:55:42
QUOTE(Julie-Anne @ Nov 22 2005, 06:14 PM) [snapback]61290[/snapback]

Hello there Mortonjag. Im afraid im not one of the young-ish girls that find men in their fifties and sixties appealing.......im sorry to have to let you down like that, I really am. Im sure you are a very nice fifty or sixty year old man but im really not that way inclined. I hope you understand and that we can both continue to use this board without having an atmosphere between us!

laugh.gif laugh.gif

I totally respect what you say, Julie-Anne, but I just wonder, when you say 'you're not that way inclined', if I sense a hint of disparagement for those who are.

My Mummy used to say-'Don't knock it 'til you've tried it Son!'. smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-22 19:25:25
QUOTE(Julie-Anne @ Nov 22 2005, 07:00 PM) [snapback]61315[/snapback]

oh no not atall, no disparagement (Whit??) here! I was actually only having a wee laugh with you wee man!

Thats it im off doon the bowling green to bag myself a man! ohmy.gif

Good luck Julie-Anne, but don't be fooled by that old codger who keeps the spare Jack down his thermals!! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-22 20:06:24
QUOTE(Bryan @ Nov 22 2005, 07:43 PM) [snapback]61337[/snapback]

Agree with that but Linn likes the beer to much rolleyes.gif

He's certainly beeen 'putting them away' Bryan! sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-22 20:28:38
QUOTE(GeorgeMichaelTon @ Nov 22 2005, 08:22 PM) [snapback]61356[/snapback]

Donga and Julie Ann: Can I croon at the wedding darlings?

I think I'll start off with a little "Careless Whisper", jazz things up with some "Club Tropicana", add a little spice for the movers and shakers with "Faith" and send you both on your honeymoon with my romantic classic "I Want Your Sex".

'I want your SOCKS'!
mortonjag 2005-11-22 20:37:13
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Nov 22 2005, 08:18 PM) [snapback]61354[/snapback]

there's a website that analyses your dna for you, and can tell you whether you are a descendent of genghis khan - apparently there are 40 million of the feckers raping and pillaging today.

Aye it's got to be American, and it sounds as daft as the mugs that pay the money!

Wait 'til they start finding the millions of descendants of JC-that'll put the Da Vinci Code in the shade!
mortonjag 2005-11-22 20:48:33
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Nov 22 2005, 08:30 PM) [snapback]61359[/snapback]

there are no authorities in somalia, but anyway.

killing people is wrong, no matter whether it's an individual or a government doing the killing. and that's all there is to it!

It's all very well theorising about those things- in practice the conscience is like a pet dog-once it's trained, it obeys without question.

If someone calculatedly and gratuitously killed my best friend I would gladly exterminate him-and to be honest wouldn't give a f*ck about whether it was 'right' or 'wrong'.

Take Huntley for example-a cast iron prosecution-and we have to pay a fortune to keep him alive for another fifty years or so.

Nothing wrong with 'an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth' as long as everybody understands the rules IMO.
mortonjag 2005-11-23 07:04:23
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Nov 23 2005, 03:24 AM) [snapback]61453[/snapback]

In answer to the question i'd say mid-late 30's.

Having said that, if you pump a woman of 50+ you can lick her tits and fanny at the same time.

Such is gravity.

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What's her name LargsTON-sounds a 'must to avoid'?

Mind you it must depend on the size of your tongue too!!! tongue.gif

I've seen plenty of under 30's waddling out of MacDonald's, whose tits are so close to their fannies that your tongue wouldn't be interested.

AND (to the original point) some statuesque 'oldies'!
mortonjag 2005-11-23 07:12:26
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Nov 22 2005, 09:45 PM) [snapback]61379[/snapback]

Ayr winning is a good result for us smile.gif

Yes I'm surprised at Raith. When we played them over there I thought they were starting to come good, but it's beginning to look like Gretna, ourselves and Partick, with several others scrapping for fourth place-early days still mind you.
mortonjag 2005-11-23 07:16:15 It looks to me like he chose Vietnam because he thought it was a 'soft touch', in terms of his 'preferences'.

Well son-'Ye ken noo, an hell mend ye'.
mortonjag 2005-11-23 07:24:13
QUOTE(cowshed barmyarmy @ Nov 22 2005, 10:20 PM) [snapback]61393[/snapback]

im not watchin it, any1 hot worth talkin about?

Yip-two angelic wee boys doing the commentary-ideal paedo fodder IMO-guess they were born too late to audition for 'Bill and Ben'-what a pair of fannies, but laughing all the way to the bank.

What has the Great British viewing public come to? mad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-23 09:13:33
QUOTE(se56an @ Nov 23 2005, 08:17 AM) [snapback]61465[/snapback]

You must be sick.

Not sure what you mean se56an, but I'm certainly sick of apparently intelligent people wasting their time on tripe like that.

Ant and Dec are, IMO, a pair of sycophantic self-satisfied nothings who wouldn't last a minute on a decent Media programme, but as I say, they're laughing all the way to the bank because people are so easily gulled. mad.gif

mortonjag 2005-11-23 09:20:27
QUOTE(Alibi @ Nov 23 2005, 08:40 AM) [snapback]61467[/snapback]

When they put him in front of the firing squad, I hope they're playing "I'm the man who put the BANG in gang" with the order to fire synchronised with "bang".

I know he's not been found guilty yet, but come on (come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, COME ON!)... it does look rather suspicious.

I trust his career won't follow the usual path of taking off big time after his death. Disgusting man.

Indeed, and puts the behaviour of people like the much maligned Graham Rix into some kind of perspective.
mortonjag 2005-11-23 10:55:14
QUOTE(Alibi @ Nov 23 2005, 09:43 AM) [snapback]61485[/snapback]

A pee outside isn't a big problem if it's discreet and somewhere that isn't going to leave a mess. Like behind the toilet block at Alloa, on a grass area where natural breakdown of substances would occur. I don;t think pissing in a shop doorway is quite the same. Problem wouldn't be so bad if the local authorities didn't try to rip people off with large charges for public toilets which (some of us) have paid for through our council taxes.

Nothing offensive about breast feeding - although most women do it discreetly so there's nothing to see or be offended by anyway. It's the ones who are basically exhibitionist about it (Look at me, I'm breastfeeding! Look! Look!) that give the whole thing a bad name.

Exactly-it's one thing feeding your wean in a 'public' place-and totally different making an exhibition of it and 'daring' people to object.
mortonjag 2005-11-23 10:59:29
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 23 2005, 09:53 AM) [snapback]61488[/snapback]

...think he means "he could be worse" not that I'm trying to put words into his mouth.

Thanks Puggsy-I've already made my comments about Rix on another thread-he was stupid-and irresponsible, but he does not belong in the deviant category like 'Glitter'.
mortonjag 2005-11-23 11:09:32 IMO The big man's been immense for us since he arrived, but in several games this season he's looked uncomfortable, and he and Ryan just seem to get in each other's road.

I've been impressed with our defence in the last couple of games-we've been far less 'flat footed', and more confident than before.

I think that maybe Stu's going to have to wait his turn now.
mortonjag 2005-11-23 11:23:51
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 23 2005, 10:29 AM) [snapback]61493[/snapback]

Worlds ugiest dog has died

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10152429/

I've seen many an uglier dog walking about the Oak Mall on a Saturday morning! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-23 12:13:19 It's always sad when someone goes before his time.

I've been racking my brain trying to remember John, and like Alibi, I can't.

The only thing that's possible is that he was technically a reserve and played sporadically, but I think if he had made seven consecutive appearances, I would have remembered him, especially with that 'flaming red hair' described on the 'Jags' site.
mortonjag 2005-11-23 12:22:04
QUOTE(se56an @ Nov 23 2005, 11:53 AM) [snapback]61504[/snapback]

Bring back the two ronnies eh?

Even one would do-Ronnie Barker had, IMO, more talent in his big toe than the whole of that piece of contrived plastic media excrement put together-and he made me laugh too, se56an, not want to f*cking cry! sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-23 13:05:41
QUOTE(se56an @ Nov 23 2005, 12:39 PM) [snapback]61519[/snapback]

Cry?

Am lost, your whit is above me! tongue.gif

se56an, are you really taking the piss or do you not understand.

In case it IS the latter, let me spell it out for you.

IN MY OPINION, THE WHOLE 'REALITY' TV CIRCUS IS ONLY SLIGHTLY LESS PATHETIC THAT THE MINDLESS SQUARE EYED MUPPETS WHO MAKE IT POSSIBLE BY WATCHING.

I know choice is limited, but why can't intelligent people just switch off and do something worthwhile, like playing a game of Scrabble, or enjoying a good shag?
mortonjag 2005-11-23 13:15:21
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Nov 23 2005, 01:08 PM) [snapback]61525[/snapback]

Scrabble or a shag?

Diverse.

Indeed Boozehound-variety is, they say, the spice of life-and the winner of the Scrabble chooses who goes on top!
mortonjag 2005-11-23 13:25:25
QUOTE(AyrAndy @ Nov 23 2005, 01:16 PM) [snapback]61532[/snapback]

promoting pipe smoking are we ???

Don't think that would go down well after recent threads Andy, but I CAN recommend a couple of good black shags for sale up this way-not that cheap I may say- but they last well, and don't object to being rolled over and over again.
mortonjag 2005-11-23 13:59:02
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Nov 23 2005, 01:13 PM) [snapback]61529[/snapback]

Wow, and you gave Salty loads on another thread for voicing opinions in a similar style.

On the topic I agree that reality television is a false concept - none of it reflects reality and as we all know, these nonenities are living in the garden of a five star resort, not living in the jungle.

However, I disagree about your comments on Ant n Dec. They are a pair of clever cookies who have changed their approach regularly to reflect public taste. They were fantastic on SMTV and the recent gameshow thing was clever telly. Surf the nostalgia wave (did you not love Bullseye) and give it a slightly post-modern twist.

I'd paraphrase your last sentence slightly to make it less condescending though. Why can't everybody just switch off their television sets and go and do something less boring instead... wink.gif

Those are only (as I'm sure you know), slightly tongue in cheek, and deliberately provocative opinions.

If I recall my objection was to Salty's proclamation that another poster's opinions were 'invalid'.

Opinions are by definition valid, as are all tastes in TV-but people's personality and intelligence ARE judged, correctly or otherwise, by their use of this freedom.

I agree that my last sentence could be construed as condescending, but I'm not one for 'politically correct' euphemisms TAFKAK-if yer thick, yer thick, and I think you need to be, to enjoy such crap masquerading as prime time TV! wink.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-23 14:13:28
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Nov 23 2005, 01:46 PM) [snapback]61536[/snapback]

How much then.... blink.gif

For the tobacco or--- smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-23 15:29:25
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Nov 23 2005, 02:55 PM) [snapback]61571[/snapback]

For the or! tongue.gif

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-23 15:38:50
QUOTE(hotburrito @ Nov 23 2005, 03:27 PM) [snapback]61588[/snapback]

kinda strange thing to say. huh.gif

I was gonna dig you up for "grooming" Julie-anne on another thread when you were asking if she "liked older men" then sort of wouldnt let it lie when she said no! laugh.gif

READ the thread, I don't see that as 'grooming' though I'm sure Julie-Anne is very nice-and I think you'll find the other guys jumped on the band wagon.

In any case I don't know how old she is, probably not much younger than Mairi!
mortonjag 2005-11-23 15:45:19 Seems to me that if Stu does come back (and I'm one of the two 'don't knows'), we have to drop a midfielder.

I think you've got to pick teams on current form, and I wouldn't bypass any of the guys who played at Alloa-but if I had to, I guess Kev would have to go.
mortonjag 2005-11-23 20:30:23
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Nov 23 2005, 07:45 PM) [snapback]61751[/snapback]

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Go watch Aussie Rules or something, football clearly isn't something you know anything about!

Without Finlayson we would be midtable, that is a FACT!

He has made at least half a dozen goal-saving challenges, which would have been near-certain goals.

We would struggle immensely without him.

John Adam is a decent back-up right back, but is near useless in the midfield.

Truth is ThornTON that opinion is starting to swing against Kev, and full credit to you, you're struggling hard to defend him, but sweeping statements about being mid table without him just make you look ridiculous.
mortonjag 2005-11-23 20:52:43
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Nov 23 2005, 08:40 PM) [snapback]61790[/snapback]

He's not far from the truth though.

As i told you in that PM Kev is rated very highly by everyone behind the scenes at Cappielow and will be one of the first names on the teamsheet for the forseeable future.

Why not start another poll and see how much opinion is swinging against him? wink.gif

I haven't disagreed with you on the PM LargsTON, and if you've been keeping up to date with the threads, I've been pretty supportive of Kev, and rated him highly at Alloa.

The trouble is that ThornTON is claiming that Kev has 'saved' our bacon frequently and without that we would be mid table.

I can equally cite numerous times when he has totally blown chances going forward, which more able players (in that area of the field) might have used to produce goals.

If I start yet another Kev poll, I'll just get accused of 'rubbishing him' as I did before, but why don't you, or someone else do it.

I would be genuinely interested to see what opinion really is now. As I said to ThornTON, my feeling from the threads has been that he is not as popular as he was.
mortonjag 2005-11-23 21:14:23 Don't know if any of you saw a documentary a few months back about exploding cat food. Blew a woman's kitchen to pieces!

I can't remember all the details but a spokesman for the manufacturer (I'm sure it was Kit E Kat), admitted in interview that every year one in ten thousand (or a similar figure) cans WILL explode.

He was completely straight faced and serious, and I couldn't help thinking that if their ads are correct re. the millions of pussies they satisfy annually-the insurance companies must be less than happy with their product.
mortonjag 2005-11-23 21:22:42
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Nov 23 2005, 08:27 PM) [snapback]61775[/snapback]

Mine just rings like a phone. f*** ringtones, and f*** paying three pound a time just to irritate people.

Nice to agree with you on something arklesTON.

I always used to have mine on 'ring ring' for the same reason as you, but on my latest (Sony Eriksson) I just can't seem to access it, and have to play one of those daft wee tunes. sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-23 22:16:13
QUOTE(se56an @ Nov 23 2005, 09:17 PM) [snapback]61809[/snapback]

Forgive him Julie A, he's just another old codger, with a computer

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mortonjag 2005-11-24 07:38:12
QUOTE(se56an @ Nov 23 2005, 10:21 PM) [snapback]61825[/snapback]

Don't forget your flu jab! tongue.gif

Sorry I didn't reply last night se56an , but that Horlicks knocked me right out.

I'll mention the 'flu jag today when I'm in for my pills with the shopping trolley-oh f*ck I'm double booked-I made an appointment to get my left hip joint MOT'd-ah well, at my age there's (hopefully mellow.gif ) always another day! smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-24 07:52:37
QUOTE(Tanna @ Nov 23 2005, 10:36 PM) [snapback]61827[/snapback]

u mean in the same way that your opinion means nothing to most people on this board??? although you are not a war criminal... you're still a bonafide wanker, and thats close enough tongue.gif

Morning Tanna my good fellow-rise and shine-just noticed your signature-excellent!

At this time of year especially, lots of Grandpas will no doubt be sucking Thorntons, after enjoying a different kind of 'turkey'! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-24 09:28:10 There's a small privately owned company in Pollokshaws Rd. near where I live.

They have an excellent track record and will build to your spec.

Creative Computing-they've got their own web site if you're interested.
mortonjag 2005-11-24 10:37:17 Let's face it, we've all got our own, probably pig headed, opinions about this issue, and as far as I'm concerned, nothing that is or is not done on that particular day will alter things one jot.

Like it or not, we are a separate nation in a United Kingdom.

The latter was created by a process of law.

The former remains, and we can be proud of being Scottish within the UK IMO.
mortonjag 2005-11-24 10:46:41
QUOTE(Tanna @ Nov 24 2005, 10:35 AM) [snapback]61882[/snapback]

aye, a rubbered one! laugh.gif

Don't rub SALT in! He's only a wee soul really! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-24 10:51:31
QUOTE(Alibi @ Nov 24 2005, 10:46 AM) [snapback]61890[/snapback]

We'll have to agree to differ on that one, Mr Thistlehead. The union was created undemocratically against the wishes of the majority of people who didn't get a say in the matter. It's always more difficult to change a long-existing status quo. If we were currently independent, there is no way a majority of Scots would vote for the union. And now that we have a more global perspective, why should any union be only with England, Wales, and Northern Ireland? Why not a union with Norway with whom we have a lot in common apart from the obvious difference of language? Or Ireland? Or why not the more moderate option of being an independent nation but with either a free trade agreement with European countries or full independent membership of Europe and the same status as most other European countries.

The act of union is something that might arguably have been appropriate (for the then rulers) in the early 1700s, but nowadays it is a millstone round our necks. Not a cause for celebration, that's for sure.

Did I say the process of law was democratic Alibi?

Nominally perhaps, in terms of the electorate's choice-that's all IMO.
mortonjag 2005-11-24 18:13:48
QUOTE(Tanna @ Nov 24 2005, 06:01 PM) [snapback]62075[/snapback]

awwww boohoo, in a wee huff are yae son???

dry yer eyes laugh.gif

AND ThornTON, why don't YOU join a self help group for losers, I'm sure you would be an invaluable member! tongue.gif

It doesn't matter how clever you are in this life, or how wonderful you perceive yourself to be - eventually you've got to learn how to HEAR others as well-until then you'll always be a loser. mad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-24 21:21:08
QUOTE(g_m_f_c_1874_g_m_f_c @ Nov 24 2005, 08:49 PM) [snapback]62146[/snapback]

I think he meant mortonjag when he said no one likes him laugh.gif

Correct my boy-ThornTON ALWAYS thinks he speaks for everybody, and knows what's best for them.--Stalin, Hitler, Thatcher and good old Salty!
mortonjag 2005-11-24 21:39:29 'And for dessert we're having organic banana dipped in Thornton's chocolate'.
mortonjag 2005-11-25 06:42:53
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 25 2005, 12:05 AM) [snapback]62215[/snapback]

Need to sotp talking about other gus genitals here...getting a tad worried for you all.

It's just the Christmas spirit Puggsy-turkey, chocolate, pudding, and things.

GENITALS? -is that not Dicks and Fannies-now those words DO make me think of another guy-ThornTON- my little Christmas chocolate soldier, eating himself in sheer delight. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-25 07:07:22
QUOTE(Tanna @ Nov 24 2005, 10:04 PM) [snapback]62180[/snapback]

its every post that he does though. he always has to make out he's better than everyone else for no reason and is always right and pays no attention to anyone elses opinions other than his own, if you dont agree with him, you are wrong and you are a total nobody and are worthless of any kind of opinion...

is this his alter ego on here i take it then aye if hes such a nice guy??? dry.gif

Actually Tanna LargsTON is almost right.

This is a pretty accurate description of me, but it should read, He always KNOWS he's better than everyone etc., etc.,and 'EVEN IF you agree with him you are wrong' etc.

I really am the most self opinionated, and arrogant prick on those columns, and I promise to get worse! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-25 07:11:11
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Nov 24 2005, 05:51 PM) [snapback]62067[/snapback]

Fuxake! Where the hell is he!?!?!

I thought it was an alleyway, but there's loads of grass and.....who the fk tosses off to a wankrag on a pile of old clothes and s***e in a grassy alleyway!?!?!?

sad.gif

ThornTON at 10 am every Sunday, then cleans it on his kilt and heads off to church to sing 'Jees I loves me' to himself! huh.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-25 07:53:10
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Nov 25 2005, 07:43 AM) [snapback]62259[/snapback]

Contrary to what a couple of our esteemed posters have said, there IS a link to the "No Smoking" thread, and that link is the selfish attitude prevalent from the same posters, I'm afraid to say.

Did you know or have read about this man?
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mortonjag 2005-11-25 08:00:34 Just noticed it's the 25th today and thank f*ck-only one month left 'til we get back to normality and start hating each other again.

Jolly old January looms with long faces, empty pockets, and hallways littered with unopened bills and demands.

'What a friend we have in Jesus' indeed! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-25 08:48:29
QUOTE(Alibi @ Nov 25 2005, 08:25 AM) [snapback]62263[/snapback]

Donga, if not a symbolic burning of a flag, (which as I have said is not IMHO an insult to any individual) what would you suggest as a good way to mark the 300 years of the union in a way that shows you disapprove of it? The establishment is likely to try to use the occasion to make political capital out of it and try to drum into us "you are British and you should be grateful" etc etc, and a suitable riposte is required. I think the original poster said that burning a flag was something that would attract attention and that is correct. But if that is considered not a good idea, what alternative would you suggest?

We could always fly a couple of jumbo jets (liveried in saltires) into the Houses of Parliament, plant a couple of suicide bombers in King Charles' bedroom, ----- oops----to more important issues-it's started to snow outside so guess tomorrow's game's definitely f*cked. sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-25 08:53:31
QUOTE(William Wallace @ Nov 25 2005, 08:49 AM) [snapback]62277[/snapback]

Burning it! It will be covered in oil, shat on, pissed on then set alight in the most public of places, yes Donga infront of many non-smokers.

Time you lot out there stood up for yourselves. The Union of the Countries was forced through by politicians at the time with no consultation with either nation. Every Scot who wasn't being handed a handful of gold at the time was against it.

Before the union, Scotland was a rich vibiriant country, much as it was before the wars of independance took place, Scotland was rich in natural sources of material and did great trade with Europe, england was not doing so well, so in english eyes this was a chance to finally take what they thought was theirs, so after paying off certain members, and enforcing a media ban(yes there was media back then) on most anti union rallies etc the english forced this through, all against the majority of Scots.

Now after 300 years, and after constant propagana about how you cannot rule yourself, feed yourself, and by being bleed english led info, history etc, YOU can finally say NO. Am a Scot and proud of it. Here is your chance to finally be counted. Here is your chance to say to your grand waines, 'I did that'.

STAND PROUD AND BE THAT SCOT, STAND PROUD FOR YOUR COUNTRY.

ITS TIME FOR A REVOLT, BURN EVERY union jack IN THIS COUNTRY, THIS COUNTRY WE SHOULD ALL BE PROUD TO CALL 'SCOTLAND'
FREEDOM

Yep-and send that Sassenach b*stard Weatherson back to where he belongs, with wee Jason tripping at his heels! WE don't need help from those scummy southerners! mad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-25 10:15:31
QUOTE(William Wallace @ Nov 25 2005, 10:13 AM) [snapback]62305[/snapback]

Just watched a weather report, no snow or freezing weather planned for Cowdenbeath area tonight/tomorrow.

Lowest tempature will be +4, so game is on. Now need to get myself booked on a bus

Who wrote the weather report WW-God?

I'll believe it when I see it! sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-25 10:21:23
QUOTE(William Wallace @ Nov 25 2005, 10:04 AM) [snapback]62303[/snapback]

What a sick reply.

Who are you some sick teenage wannabee, just because you cannot get it up apart from using a few pills, don't feel the need to bring your sick patter on here

So you didn't find it funny-sorry WW-but unlike you I always try to see the ridiculous in anything, and don't mean to offend anybody.

I wonder if you can say the same about your entrenched, and narrow minded Nationalism (my wee sweetie) smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-25 10:42:12
QUOTE(William Wallace @ Nov 25 2005, 10:18 AM) [snapback]62308[/snapback]

Away and pop a viagra and show the missus a good time.

Even in Forfar its raining and PTFC have annouce game defo on.

Some people are just want to depressed all the time

That was great advice WW-not depressed anymore-and feel I can keep this up all day.

As for tomorrow's game mind you, I hope it is on but I've seen it all before at this time of year. Yes it's going to be milder, but what does that mean-snow probably-it's been forecast and has already been falling here. And Cowdungbreath is a lot colder than Glasgow.
mortonjag 2005-11-25 11:07:02
QUOTE(midTONs @ Nov 25 2005, 10:50 AM) [snapback]62326[/snapback]

Correct William, certain posters on here try to turn Nationalism into the anti English thing to justify their stance against us, but the fact is, I'm a Nationalist I hate being part of the Union, I hate my country being associated with the Union Flag, I have no time and despise the Westminster Government I despise the Unionist propaganda spouting media.
But It's the union I hate not England, not her people or her towns, I love many towns and cities in England I love many of her people and I have a great passion for one of her football teams. ohmy.gif
And thats just the tip of it. dry.gif

God did I just say that. laugh.gif

I agree with your sentiments midTONs, and so do many people in Wales and the North of England, and Cornwall, to give three examples.

It would interest me to know how many of the more hot headed posters have 'pure' Scottish blood.

My Grandmothers came from Islay, and Govan, respectively, one Grandad from the Highlands, and one from LIVERPOOL-perish the thought.

Guess that rules me out of the club!
mortonjag 2005-11-25 11:10:28
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Nov 25 2005, 11:03 AM) [snapback]62331[/snapback]

Aye, but the BBC are showing sun in Edinburgh just now, but it has been snowing since 9.30 and only just gone off.

I am heading back to Dunfermline at lunch time and I have heard that it is worse over there. Cowdenbeath is only 10 minutes away, so as no covers, the snow may lie and freeze overnight. Not wanting to spoil WW thread, but that's how it is right now.

Are you stupid or sumfin mate-ah seen it on the weather forecast-the games on deffo! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-25 11:29:02 Morning Miss Jean Brodie-I've lost your message to WW, but why don't you put me on 'ignore' and pop off for another reading of Holy Scripture instead of jumping on his bandwagon-oh and be sure not to overstarch your knickers-it's the weekend after all ! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-25 11:31:24
QUOTE(pink_panther @ Nov 25 2005, 11:22 AM) [snapback]62343[/snapback]

phoned cowdenbeath, the wee lassie said she thinks it should be ok and a possible inspection tomorrow morning

'THINKS' and 'POSSIBLE' sounds like a real Fifer to me ! sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-25 11:36:34
QUOTE(Alibi @ Nov 25 2005, 11:29 AM) [snapback]62348[/snapback]

Stop right there. Paisley, you say? Are you sure you want to admit that?

Don't be embarrassed Alibi-it's quite common nowadays not to be able to trace your parents-at least you know of one ancestor even if she was a 'Skunk' smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-25 11:58:03
QUOTE(William Wallace @ Nov 25 2005, 11:48 AM) [snapback]62359[/snapback]

'OLD' and 'SAD' sound like a real Glaswegian to me

Now why should that be WW?

What makes you think that somebody born in Glasgow would support the TON-I'm a Greenockian through and through, even if I have to live here! wink.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-25 12:31:48 All of the original band?
mortonjag 2005-11-25 12:40:53
QUOTE(se56an @ Nov 25 2005, 12:33 PM) [snapback]62388[/snapback]

Minus the T at the end! tongue.gif

I would have been surprised if he'd gone back. Good luck to them.
mortonjag 2005-11-25 12:50:54
QUOTE(se56an @ Nov 25 2005, 12:36 PM) [snapback]62390[/snapback]

What you lot think

se56an I think you're as bored as f*ck with this side of the forum-it's been dead for days because we haven't had games-and you're trying to liven it up.

A Midden fan and his wife were trying to smuggle a pet skunk into the country as a mascot.

They got to the Customs, and realising their cover might be blown, the guy said to his wife-'Hide it down your knickers'.

'But what about the smell?', she asked.

Too bad', he replied, 'if it dies, it dies'. smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-25 13:15:34
QUOTE(nach0king @ Nov 25 2005, 12:52 PM) [snapback]62398[/snapback]

This is a chicken-egg situation, though. My argument is that if the Scottish editorial staff were allowed to, and indeed able to, run their own perspective on "important" stories, there'd be less of the provincial nonsense we see these days. As it is, the Scottish news has to be careful not to step on the toes of the national news, and indeed - as the governors themselves admitted - still don't recognsie some aspects of a devolved Scotland.

I don't care for your average MSP either, but I don't see what makes Westminster MPs magically so much better. Furthermore, those that are better, some of them are Scotland's "best and brightest" who, for whatever reason, took the opportunity to go to London. If Scotland was independent there'd be less of the brain drain in the public sector at least, and in my opinion the private too.

It could well be the case that a fully devolved Scottish Six is still tartan bunnets this and old firm that, but I think the viewer would demand more of the bulletin than that.

Exactly-as long as Scots native talent is still able to be elected to Westminster-the 'brain drain' will continue.

MP's by their very nature are power seekers, and although that doesn't necessarily make them bad at their job, they will continue to be attracted to the 'Big Smoke' if it's an option.
mortonjag 2005-11-25 13:24:48 Well, George will now be at peace, and the scummy gutter press will soon find another victim.

Must be wonderful making your living out of other people's misfortune.
mortonjag 2005-11-25 14:33:46
QUOTE(AyrAndy @ Nov 25 2005, 01:44 PM) [snapback]62419[/snapback]

That should be last of the snow, with rain showers coming down the country you will see snow melting. Anticipated ground temps to be no worse than -1 and these will be on exposed high areas and these temps will disappear by 9am at the latest, every chance your game will be on.

If I were you, I would hope it is as temps after Sat begin to get horrendous,

Sat 0
Sun -3
Mon -5
Tue -10 ohmy.gif

Andy-that sounds like one of those Mensa tests-what's the next number?

Several possibilities but the most favourable I can get is

Wed - 12

Hopefully no replays!
mortonjag 2005-11-25 14:40:15
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Nov 25 2005, 02:33 PM) [snapback]62433[/snapback]

On the way to Dumfries at Christmas one year practically every game in Scotland was frozen off and the radio on the bus said that the Morton game was still on. Roll on 2.30 match programme in hand and the game is then cancelled!

The same thing happended at Hamilton's ground when it was p1ssing it down and the game was cancelled with only 30-45 minutes to go.

The weather always rules!

Indeed-I was driving from Glasgow to Scapa- two seasons ago I think- with my brother. It was certainly pissing down, but we were at Langbank at about 2.30, before we heard on the Radio it was cancelled.

Last season I drove up to Forfar in glorious sunshine-parked the car, and a Forfar fan saw my scarf and said 'sorry the game's off mate'.
I think a lot of us were scunnered that day.

I just hope we don't all end up over the Forth bridge tomorrow, only to hear that there's been a late 'call off', but nothing would surprise me.
mortonjag 2005-11-25 14:46:17
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Nov 25 2005, 02:39 PM) [snapback]62438[/snapback]

..........the pitch is covered with 2 inches of snow and it is still snowing. The terracing, having no roof is also covered (nearly went on my arse walking up the steps) and all roads leading to ground are quite bad, with flooding on the motorways.

If the rain comes and clears the pitch, the game could still be in doubt due to flooding.

All in all not looking too good for tomorrow unfortunately.

But the Weather Man said it would be on-Defo! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-25 14:51:12
QUOTE(piehutt @ Nov 25 2005, 02:36 PM) [snapback]62436[/snapback]

I know it's not nice to speak ill of the dead but I'm afraid I can't find it in myself to respect someone who threw so much away.

He could have at least another 5 years at the very top, there's thousands of people who would kill for just a quarter of his ability and he didn't appreciate how lucky he was.

piehutt YOU obviously don't appreciate how UNLUCKY he was. Do you think he wanted to be an alcoholic, and behave like an idiot?

Chist's sake man-'let him who is without sin throw the first stone'-I think you're out of order, and if you think I am, just ask Andy McLaren what it's like.
mortonjag 2005-11-26 06:30:51 I'm glad I only discovered this thread now. Last night I would have ripped into you immature, ignorant and disrespectful little scumbags, tittering gratuitously at someone's misfortune.

What galls me most of all is that you portray yourself as gentlemen of great knowledge on all things-not just GMFC.

ThornTON, I'll never forget you boasted (on the eve of your 21'st) that you are 'a chemist for f*cksake'- and LargsTON that you are a big grown up 28 year old man with children of your own.

I don't mind you guys spouting your usual pish about players form, etc.,
but you clearly don't have a clue where the boundaries of decency lie, and are abysmally behind the times in your perception of alcoholism.

Our own Andy McLaren is a victim of this DISEASE, which is recognised by the World Health Organisation, and regularly dealt with under the terms of the 'Disability Discrimination Act'.

No doubt if George had died at 59 of Multiple Sclerosis, or cancer, you two would have been fighting each other off to get first place in the cortege, sporting your condolent little pink smiles and carnations.

And a final comment-before the usual defensive smart arse says-'but Andy McLaren's sorted it, and Best didn't'.

He hasn't-'phone him and he'll explain that for any alcoholic it's only one day at a time for the rest of your life.

Andy is sober today.

George, is thankfully at peace now, and no longer has to face that diurnal battle
mortonjag 2005-11-26 06:48:52
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Nov 26 2005, 06:37 AM) [snapback]62783[/snapback]

At the end of a 12 hour shift the last thing in need is your condescending pish.

I've explained my feelings on that loser Best before quite cleary so if you've any further problem with me we can discuss it by PM.

My feelings on Best are little to do with his alcoholism but as usual that fact flew right over your head.

f*** off out my sight.

Condone wife beating do you?

If my Father had the chances Best had he'd still be alive today.

f*** him and f*** you.

Looks like I touched a tender spot LargsTON-I don't have any problem with you personally, but as I stated you clearly do not understand alcoholism.

You conveniently divorce 'your feelings on that loser' from his alcoholism, when your stated misgivings all stem from patent manifestations of his alcoholic personality.

You were keen to PM me about Finlayson because you had inside knowledge, and I respected that.

Just let me tell you that I have a depth of professional experience in the field of alcoholism and addiction-hopefully that is enough.
mortonjag 2005-11-26 07:10:09
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Nov 25 2005, 10:52 PM) [snapback]62687[/snapback]

As this is a football forum I would think the footballer. Also, Gazza is still 20 odd years younger than George and although I hope it doesn't happen, he could still go off the rails and end up the same way.

I'm probably 'flogging a dead horse' here in terms of the entrenched ignorance of some of the posters 'marbellaton', but in factual terms you are spot on.

Despite being a generation younger than George, and with all the advanced treatment available, Gazza is statistically very unlikely to 'make it'.

That IS the sadness of the whole addictive personality scenario.

Those who do not understand-please put this, like George, to rest.
mortonjag 2005-11-26 07:18:56
QUOTE(piehutt @ Nov 25 2005, 10:05 PM) [snapback]62660[/snapback]

I started to watch it but then I remembered how quickly comedy ages.

Sure piehutt some of it was really dated and wouldn't be understood by today's youngsters, but for me,

'I use a 'phonecard because I'm pished' -

is timeless-Rikki's facial expressions were unbelievable in some sketches-and doing that dead pan I M Jolly in front of a live interactive audience was pure genius.
mortonjag 2005-11-26 10:11:22 To LargsTON, and the other recent posters. You are entitled to your opinions about Best. What you (LargsTON in particular) are not entitled to do is to compare his personal situation with unfortunate illness in your own families, when you are NOT party to the true facts.

From all reports, Best's basic personality was gentle, and his ultimately disgraceful behaviour WAS a result of his (inherited) alcoholism.

LargsTON-don't try to dilute my opinions by your references to Tricia-who is currently sober and doing well, I'm delighted to see.

As I already stated, I have long professional experience in this area. I don't mind people expressing opinions, but I do object when those fly in the face of established medical fact.
mortonjag 2005-11-26 12:29:52
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Nov 26 2005, 07:47 AM) [snapback]62792[/snapback]

Totally agree.

mortonjag - just because YOU profess that we don't understand doesn't make you correct. I've encountered so called professionals in these fields who don't know their arse from their elbow.

I'm correct, you're not.

Well, i've as much right to say that as you do.

Again, like on the other board I've just edited a huge chunk of this out mortonjag cos i don't see why i should divulge personal details of my past to prove i know what i'm talking about.

LargsTON, what most of the other posters who agree with you are saying, is that in THEIR OPINIONS alcohol is not an illness. The fact that they are not fully informed makes those opinions valid, albeit incorrect.

You, on the other hand, are clearly 'out on a limb' and for whatever reason have a huge axe to grind.

Who are you to judge whether or not a professional knows his 'arse from his elbow'?

Are you going to reveal from under that mountain of 'edited out personal detail' that at the tender age of 28 you are in fact a Professor of Psychiatry, with a special interest in addictions?

OF COURSE you are entitled to keep saying YOU are correct and I'm not, LargsTON, and each time you do, you just dig yourself in deeper.

I've no doubt that if you were to divulge those personal details, I would understand better why you are upset, and I'm certain I would sympathise with your situation, but please, when I quote the WHO, and Disability Discrimination Act, and explain that I have a wealth of professional experience in this field, have a wee think before you reply.

On a lighter, but entirely apposite note, YOU are the one who tells me that the board and management at GMFC rate Kevin Finlayson highly. I HAVE listened to that. Try to apply the same principle to this.
mortonjag 2005-11-27 08:17:35
QUOTE(piehutt @ Nov 27 2005, 12:36 AM) [snapback]63115[/snapback]

Easilly the worst stadium in Scotland. Also strange as Cowdenbeath appears on no road signs until you're about 2 miles from it.

Pitch was pretty tricky. We tried to play a bit of football and put some nice moves together in the 1st half. Well deserved goal, should have had another 2 or 3.

Not at all impressed with anything Cowden had to offer. Very physical game they played and ref was kind to only hand out the bookings he did.

No point really talking about how everyone performed, did enough in difficult conditions. Agree with the guy who said MacGreogr was MoM, did really well at left back - won a few useful tackles in the 1st half and pushed forward when he could.

I thought the ref was very inexperienced piehutt-did he actually book anybody?

I see we don't have a MOM poll yet-I've given that one a lot of thought. I did consider David, who is looking more comfortable with each game, but I'd ultimately go for Alex Walker.

He did what has been rare this season-(except from Andy)-got right up to the bye line on the right, and put a great ball over to Del-at a time when they just MIGHT have grabbed one back.

His heading is coming on well, and to me, he's just got that extra wee bit of class that could make him really good in the future.

In midfield I was well impressed by Scott who worked away tirelessly, and Chris was involved in a lot of good moves, and put over a great corner for Jason's goal. Jim Mc's play was a bit patchy but he had two or three great runs-and what a shame that one hit the post.


I didn't think there were any failures in the team, but I found the substitution of Kev at that stage in the game interesting but not surprising.
mortonjag 2005-11-27 08:24:44 From an oldie

1/ The Stones

2/ Queen

3/ Status Quo

And the best group of Pop Musicians/Lyricists of all time-definitely the Beatles.
mortonjag 2005-11-27 08:32:58 It's good fun doing those things, but it's so subjective and depends on your age as much as anything.

The other thing we tend to do is to look at players for individual skill without assessing how they would blend with the other 10.

In terms of pure individual skill Best for me would certainly be in there.
mortonjag 2005-11-27 09:01:39
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Nov 27 2005, 08:45 AM) [snapback]63176[/snapback]

Poof.

I once played concussed against West Kilbride and believed we'd won 3-2.

I came to in Crosshouse and found out we'd losy 22-1.

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Morning LargsTON-now I understand your distaste for 'specialists', when they couldn't even fix such a simple condition! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-29 08:58:05 For me there are only two important issues:

1/ Can the club afford him, and

2/ Can his fitness be guaranteed.

If the answer to both is a definite 'Yes', Derek IMO would be the best signing since our re-incarnation.

I've been saying for three seasons that we sadly lack an experienced midfield general, and I would even suggest we lost out on promotion twice for that reason alone.

We've got a great bunch of youngsters, and a potentially lethal midfield, but occasionally they run about like headless chickens, when all they need is a settling influence.

Fingers crossed!
mortonjag 2005-11-29 09:50:01 I found this an extermely difficult one, but I ultimately went for Alex Walker.

I thought his overall contribution was good, especially playing out of position, and he did well to make us that second goal which we desperately needed to make things safe-all credit to Del for banging it in!
mortonjag 2005-11-29 11:15:24 IMO any publicity's better than none. Dougie is a 'meddler' by nature and that won't change, but it's his money that's resurrected the 'Ton'.

Do you really think that in the heat of a match the players give a flying f*ck about what he says, or may say, anyway?

Provan's made an arse of himself yet again, and we got a splash in a National 'rag'-end of story!

mortonjag 2005-11-29 11:31:47 I just had a good laugh at the Chris Millar-poof thread, which I hadn't spotted 'til today.

Truth is that the original poster was making a valid point, and I'm surprised that several other members who were slagging Millar off for bottling out of tackles (until recently) remained strangely anonymous.

IMO Chris DOES pull out of some challenges, and that's why he's not been out injured. The guy is a lightweight in midfield, and he makes up for it by his tenacious marking, and harrying.

Anyhow, even if he was the most flamboyant and camp homosexual this side of Quentin Crisp, I couldn't give a f*ck as long as he put in a good shift for the 'Ton'!
mortonjag 2005-11-29 11:45:18
QUOTE(midTONs @ Nov 29 2005, 11:39 AM) [snapback]64032[/snapback]

A change of thread title I think would be appreciated by the guy himself, not to mention his family and burd.
Titles/accusations (even though not meant literally) like that can often be taken as offensive and embarrassing for the people involved.

Which begs the question midTONs'-'Is it the word poof you find offensive, or homosexuality?
mortonjag 2005-11-29 12:15:56
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Nov 29 2005, 11:54 AM) [snapback]64043[/snapback]

Never played football then MoronJag? Pulling out of challenges is what gets you injured.

I did play football, and I wasn't that heavy either.

I know exactly what you're talking about, and of course you're right. If you commit yourself to a 'one to one' and pull out half way you'll 'cop it', but that's not what Chris does.

He seems to have a sixth sense, and avoids challenges where he knows he'll come off second best by getting out in time-that's why people see him as a 'poof' or whichever other derogatory term might be more acceptable!
mortonjag 2005-11-29 12:28:10
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Nov 29 2005, 12:14 PM) [snapback]64057[/snapback]

Cloughie made mistakes and on rare occasions would admit it.
Mahhood was showing promise when Clough signed him but lost it when he started greeting to come home (must have missed his mammy)
Lacked the character to see it through, which same shortcoming let him down to stop him becoming a top pro.
He had the ability but not the application.

foobs ohmy.gif

I suppose it's all down to perception Foobs.

One of my brothers, who knows his football, could never see past Mahood, and thought he was 'the best thing since sliced bread', yet for me the guy always flattered to deceive.

He certainly had talent, but apart from a few flashes of brilliance, he always seemed to 'huff and puff' about the pitch-working hard and achieving very little.

I was astonished when we re-signed him.
mortonjag 2005-11-29 12:37:05
QUOTE(Rossco @ Nov 29 2005, 12:23 PM) [snapback]64063[/snapback]

:.. . ..::.. ...::.:.:. ::..:.::...: .. : ::.: ::......:.: ::.:.:.:.:
David..
Don't you mean:-
:.. . .::.. ...:.:. :.::...: .. : ::.: ::......:.: ::.:.:.:.:

:..:.: sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-29 12:49:52
QUOTE(piehutt @ Nov 29 2005, 12:23 PM) [snapback]64064[/snapback]

Not clear that you are a the rapist.

Surely this is about professional standards, and nothing to do with big women shagging wee boys.

Teachers, therapists, doctors and the likes are in a privileged position in respect of their pupils/clients/patients.

Abuse of that privilege deserves all the punishment it gets-for the general good.

If she wanted to put a big smile on half a dozen consenting kids' faces in one night (and they weren't pupils) good luck to them all! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-30 07:43:37 This is great news, and helps to bring the official web site into line with many of our competitors.

Well done!
mortonjag 2005-11-30 08:00:38 Couldn't agree more with the last two posters. I was extremely surprised that some folks had wanted Lindberg in the Morton Greats/2 book-(which I've not seen yet).

Janne was invaluable in the 'boilerhouse' and no doubt had class, with the occasional touch of brilliance, but he was quiet, and relatively unadventurous.

Even in his teens McInnes was 'up for it', cocky and confident, and inspiring older and more experienced players.' He always had an 'eye to the main chance' and spotted and exploited openings in a defence with ease.

It's those rare attributes, more than anything else which makes me believe that, cash and fitness permitting, he would serve us well for another couple of seasons.
Just long enough to get into the SPL ! wink.gif
mortonjag 2005-11-30 08:04:19 Apologies to Iain Morton about this gaffe!
mortonjag 2005-12-01 09:18:31 Guess it must be a diesel-almost certainly European, (though possibly Scandinavian), and probably German.

Best guess VW Passat? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-01 09:37:43 I was slightly surprised to see that Bryan and nach0 saw fit to close/alter threads which started with someone APPARENTLY calling Chris Millar's sexuality in question.

Assuming that Chris is 'straight', it would have been totally different if somebody had stated-'C M is a Poof', but it all started with a comment about him 'poofing' out of challenges.

I am not acquainted with the term used in that context, but everybody seemed to jump to Chris's defence-for TWO reasons.

I was quick to support him in terms of his footballing skills, and have no knowledge whatsoever of his sexual preferences.

I find it sad, however, that he has to be 'protected', and am sure that Chris himself would have taken the whole thing 'with a pinch of salt'.

It's perfectly clear that in this 'enlightened' age homosexuality is still often seen as akin to leprosy.


mortonjag 2005-12-01 09:55:58
QUOTE(tontastic @ Dec 1 2005, 09:34 AM) [snapback]64789[/snapback]

Nope ... here is a clue ... 3 litre turbo diesel ... and its not a double decker ...

Well, at least I got the diesel bit!

So it's obviously, as suggested, one of those things you see abandoned outside the school gates twice a day!

Guess with you into photos and all that -that it might now be Japanese. sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-01 10:00:38
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 1 2005, 09:51 AM) [snapback]64793[/snapback]

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

What utter rubbish, If you knew anything about me you would know I am the last person that would be prejudiced to anyone. If you do not believe me ask anyone that has met me.

The changes where made as not to offend Chris or his family.

Bryan, maybe I'm stating the obvious, but you've just 'shot yourself in the foot'.

If you are not predjudiced against homosexuality, why do you have to 'protect' anyone from accusations of it?
mortonjag 2005-12-01 10:05:38
QUOTE(tontastic @ Dec 1 2005, 10:02 AM) [snapback]64800[/snapback]

Nope, its not an X5 ... its not even BMW ...

Is it a Mitzy Bushy Spacecraft?
mortonjag 2005-12-01 10:10:58
QUOTE(Julie-Anne @ Nov 30 2005, 09:38 PM) [snapback]64687[/snapback]

There are some things that MUST be considered before age. wink.gif laugh.gif
wink.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-01 10:14:51
QUOTE(tontastic @ Dec 1 2005, 10:07 AM) [snapback]64804[/snapback]

Not even close, is that even European?

Sorry, I thought you had suggested it wasn't European-so we're back to Euro 'shaggin waggons'!

3l diesel turbo people carrier-there are so many about-PSA make good diesels-maybe French?
mortonjag 2005-12-01 10:28:34 My goodness-what have I stirred up here?

Bryan I am sorry, I wasn't suggesting that YOU are homophobic, but I was certainly questioning your need to 'protect' others from accusations of homosexuality, AND

nach0-all I can say to you is 'If the cap fits, wear it'.

I didn't personally accuse you of anything, but will repeat that the closure of the thread was, IMO, a palpable acknowledgement of the prevalence of homophobia in our society.

To put it plainly, people perceived as 'gay', are still widely regarded as in some way sinful or inferior.

I'd rather not have to, but I WILL state that I am in an extremely happy and fulfilling heterosexual relationship, and don't have an axe to grind.
mortonjag 2005-12-01 10:33:18 Don't think Merc do one-must be VW-Audi-Sharan perhaps?
mortonjag 2005-12-01 11:16:31
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 1 2005, 10:38 AM) [snapback]64823[/snapback]

OK, I lied, I'm back:
Particularly when they are associated with negative traits such as shirking the tackle; a point I've now had to make twice.
Nobody asked you, least of all myself. I couldn't care less. It is entirely irrelevant to the discussion at hand. If you were gay yourself it wouldn't make what you're saying any less preposterous. (How's THAT for equality?)

To suggest that my sexuality is irelevant to the issue is nonsense nach0, and what about a wee 'IMO' in your last paragraph? I simply wanted to point out that I am not 'gay' and, therefore, hopefully don't have preconceived ideas, which a 'gay' person might have.

I don't think we're miles away from general agreement on this issue.

You find 'shirking tackles' being associated with weakness/homosexuality offensive, and I entirely agree.

All I have tried to do is ask why a thread on a so called 'open forum' was closed, and not left open to healthy debate, and I will state again, this really should have nothing to do with my, your, or Bryan's opinions or feelings.

Closing the thread was an acknowledgement of the fact that homosexuals are still generally perceived as in some way inferior. What would be wrong with discussing that at greater length?
mortonjag 2005-12-01 11:28:47
QUOTE(tontastic @ Dec 1 2005, 10:58 AM) [snapback]64832[/snapback]

Fanfare ... fireworks ... Crowd cheering ...

Hurrah!!!

tontastic-why are you so sensible-that car should last for another six years no bother-body and engine.

I had a 'K reg' S class and only got rid of it because it was a petrol model and a 'gas guzzler', but they are certainly built like tanks.
mortonjag 2005-12-01 11:40:55
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 1 2005, 11:30 AM) [snapback]64837[/snapback]

Feel free to discuss that matter in a thread where name are not named, belive it or not it was shut incase Chris and his family objected. The have been cases where someone objected and sued and won after been called such things.

Bryan I appreciate what you do on the forum and I understand what you are saying.

If you genuinely thought Chis or his family might have sued greenockmorton.net, fair enough. You are there to protect all of our interests.

In a global sense, though, the number of potentially actionable comments made on the forum is enormous.

Having re-read the thread/s in question I sincerely doubt if any of the posters would have had the remotest problem in defending an action.
mortonjag 2005-12-01 11:48:06
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Dec 1 2005, 10:37 AM) [snapback]64822[/snapback]

POOF!

Another demonstration of 'Soupy Fanny's' not so super intelligence, and further evidence of the very point I've been making!

Thanks for that Angel smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-02 07:45:20
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 1 2005, 12:49 PM) [snapback]64868[/snapback]

IMO putting IMO in front of everything is a bit redundant since it goes without saying that what I'm posting is my opinion. IMO.

The fact that you're gay, straight, bi or whatever is quite probably the last thing on my mind, just short of whether or not Simply Red are going to make a comeback and why Easyjet think orange is a nice colour for a plane.

Again, understand this: I do not care about your sexual orientation. I do not care about your family. I do not care about your relationships. I care that you have made a complaint (which I am dealing with) and a slur against my place in an intolerant society (which I am denying.) As soon as these are dealt with we can both get on with our lives.
Good for you. It's not really offence or lack thereof that's my issue here. If all I cared about was protecting people from being offended, or safeguarding myself from being offended, the jokes thread (including your contributions to same) would have been in the bin by now. I have on several occasions received complaints about jokes and left them up, as I'd rather see the jokes and the individual posters who post them subject to judgement on their own merits, rather than me just deleting them. And it most certainly was NOT me trying to sweep anything about homosexuality under the carpet, and I would thank you to stop saying otherwise.

Offence to you, me or anyone else (except perhaps Chris*) was not the case here. It never was. It was about an ambigious statement (something you already admitted in your first post) relating to a Morton player being removed. Something that can quite easily be taken the wrong way.

I do think, however, that making a huge song and dance about my protecting one Morton player from remarks that are by your own admission open to interpretation, given the context is somehow indicative of my deep-seated hatred of gays. Rather it is key to my task as moderator, which I will fulfill regardless of your opinion on the matter.
And all I have tried to do - repeatedly - is answer this, and given you now TWO opportunities to renew any "healthy debate" you may wish to carry out on the subject of Chris' footballing abilities, or any other Morton player for that matter, whilst leaving their personal life well and truly out of it unless it's somehow relevant to the task at hand.
No it wasn't. "IMO."

I'd say this is like talking to a brick wall, but that's doing a disservice to the gable end of my house, which is actually a good listener, if a little bit drippy around the pipes.

I cannot compherend how my removing the ambigious comments relating to a player that have nothing to do with football is somehow a scathing indictment of the homosexual way of life.

My problem isn't with the use of "Poofing out" of a tackle so much as it is with the ambigious fashion in which the comments were made, comments that have no purpose on the thread.
Correct me if I'm wrong but are we not doing that right now?

Again, probably a failing on my part, but I don't see how I'm stifling any debate when:

1) I'm indulging your nonsense on this thread
and
2) I have now invited you twice to renew your discussion on Chris Millar, his playing abilities and lack thereof, leaving unfounded and ambigious comments about his personal life out of it.

I get the feeling that you're not really interested in 2) and are just baiting me. Well, you've succeeded admirably. smile.gif
*And as a small clarifying note, before anyone asks: this is still a fan site with no official status within the club, and I have absolutely no problem with anyone here being as harsh as they want on any given player (see the sagas with Kevin, Temps in the past) as long as it is pertinent either to footballing matters, or proven, confirmed off-field matters. No posts or threads will be altered JUST BECAUSE someone connected to Morton somewhere might find them demoralising. While I'd like to think we all have the best interests of the club at heart, this is a fans' board for fans' opinions, and they're not always going to be rosy and joyful. Just in case anyone's getting the wrong idea. smile.gif

nach0, hopefully by now you've had a chance to calm down.

Firstly, I'd better clarify two things.

1/ I very much value the work that you and Bryan do, without which this forum could not function.

2/ I re-iterate that I do not think, and did not mean to suggest that either of you is homophobic.

I apologise if the title of this thread was slightly misleading-'thinly disguised homophobia' but directed at the 'prats' who gratuitously post those jibes on a football forum.

Having said that, I still think that my point has been missed or ignored by most posters.

The reason for the removal of the thread was to stop potential offence-namely being incorrectly called homosexual. I am simply trying to highlight this anomaly in our so-called free society.

Clearly (to me anyway), if the majority feeling was that such an accusation equated to being called an idiot, wanker, PERHAPS even mother f*cker, no eyelid would have been batted-but call someone a 'POOF'-well THAT's different.

I hope you see where I'm coming from nach0

When the other thread started I just felt that Chris or anyone else who might have been offended would have treated it with the contempt it deserved, and if the thread had run longer the homophobic element would have been cut down to size.

mortonjag 2005-12-02 07:56:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 1 2005, 05:29 PM) [snapback]64989[/snapback]

Do the administrators have double standards ??

A thread that may or may not question the sexuality of a Morton player is locked.

However, another thread questioning the sexuality of a far wider cross section of the population - Hot Lesbo Action... remains open.

Strange, very strange.

Very QUEER indeed NewTon, but done with the best of intentions, however misguided IMO ! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-02 08:46:20
QUOTE(se56an @ Dec 2 2005, 08:07 AM) [snapback]65140[/snapback]

Who's the sad old git with a sock in his hand.

Did you say 'glad old s*** with a cock in his hand' se56an-I can't find my 'beer bottle' specs?

Ah-under the pension book as usual-well nothing for it-miserable outside, but life's what you make it.

Come to think of it, I never was much use at making things! sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-02 09:00:17
QUOTE(se56an @ Dec 2 2005, 08:49 AM) [snapback]65145[/snapback]

OK.
So why when others added to your original thread that the title was way OTT and should be changed did you leave it there and continue to add to the abuse. Also why when the thread was finally closed did you feel the need to add another thread which did nothing but fuel the fire on your original personal slur.

mad.gif

se56an, have I missed something, or have YOU.

'Abuse'...'personal slur'... explain please.

I fail to see why I should have to post in 'Primary School' English on a supposedly adult site, and have no intention of 'explaining' what is perfectly clear to me.

If people had READ my posts instead of homing in on a couple of words or phrases, they would have realised firstly, that I strongly object to homophobia, and secondly that I felt other posters should have been given a chance to ridicule the idiots who were using it as a vehicle to get at Chris Millar.
mortonjag 2005-12-02 09:05:09
QUOTE(se56an @ Dec 2 2005, 08:54 AM) [snapback]65146[/snapback]

So we have all noticed.

I see that not all things are just for the young.

I notice you use the 'Royal we' se56an-or have you been appointed spokesman for the entire forum? smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-02 09:39:17
QUOTE(se56an @ Dec 2 2005, 09:21 AM) [snapback]65154[/snapback]

Maybe your title in that thread said it all.

FFS get real. It's well documented what damage a thread on a message board can do, just ask all real Morton fans.

Ah-now self appointed spokesman for 'real Morton fans' too. Hope all this power doesn't go to your head se56an-mind you the damage seems to be done already! smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-06 07:49:26
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Nov 25 2005, 07:45 PM) [snapback]62610[/snapback]

He wasn't born an alcoholic and nobody forced him to behave like an idiot. blink.gif

Gazza probably has more problems to deal with than Best did - besides being an alocoholic wife beater he also has severe mental and personality disorders which he's managing to contain and cope with. HE has my respect.

Are we paying respect to Best the footballer or Best the man here?

It'd be good to distiguish between the two.

And after this morning's sad news LargsTON, are you going to have the decency to give a little respect to those specialists who 'don't know their arses from their elbows'?

Just like George Best, Paul Gascoigne carries the gene for alcoholism, and it comes as no surprise to me that precisely when he was looking great, and seemed to 'have it all together', he's again fallen victim to his illness.
mortonjag 2005-12-06 08:48:06 Whether or not Gretna are 'catchable' is more down to them than to us-so far they've been on a roller coaster, but it's a funny old game.

The last time we started looking too closely at Gretna, we got 'mugged' at home by Stirling.

We just have to focus on each game, and tonight it will be damned hard to beat an Ayr side that has come back onto form.
mortonjag 2005-12-06 09:03:39
QUOTE(John @ Dec 5 2005, 10:54 PM) [snapback]66745[/snapback]

Christ sake, they'll be getting to vote next.
If your not a Morton fan then why do you read and post on this forum? blink.gif

I agree entirely John, and once they get that vote, there will be no stopping them.

They'll scrap the 'Equal Opportunities Act', abolish family allowance, and have 'hetero tagging' on their first bill at Westminster.
mortonjag 2005-12-06 09:07:31
QUOTE(upaclose @ Dec 5 2005, 01:33 PM) [snapback]66523[/snapback]

Nah, you canny say that. The vast majority of people enjoy a drink and dont overdo it. We can't let the weak minded, so called "alcoholics" spoil it for everyone.

That's either 'tongue in cheek' or 'heid up arse'.
mortonjag 2005-12-06 09:14:20
QUOTE(se56an @ Dec 5 2005, 02:27 PM) [snapback]66546[/snapback]

No.

What am getting at, is if some can sue large tobacco companies for not warning them years ago that smoking kills, then surely someone will come along and sue a drinks company for the same, no?

Look there is a few cases going through against McD's right now, so if you can sue a burger company surely drinks firms are high on the list

You can sue anybody for anything-even a Morton unofficial web site I'm led to believe se56an. That doesn't mean you'll win.

You're right in principle, but the dangers of excessive drinking have been public knowledge for as long as alcohol has been used, whereas the dangers of smoking only became common knowledge in the last quarter of the 20th century.

The only way you will ever hope to tackle the alcohol problem is by education. All forms of prohibition will fail IMO.
mortonjag 2005-12-06 09:46:39 I just don't know if it's financially worth wanting to beat smaller teams to progress further, when we'd have to face one of the 'biggies' sooner or later.

I'd rather have either of the Old Firm away-grab the dough, and if we DID beat them, well who knows?!
mortonjag 2005-12-06 10:07:23
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 6 2005, 10:00 AM) [snapback]66798[/snapback]

We can but they will sign i think 6 good 1st div/spl players in jan.

Any predictions Bryan-all from Ibrox perhaps! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-06 10:12:25
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 6 2005, 10:00 AM) [snapback]66797[/snapback]

I knew as soon as that story appeared you'd post some snide remark.

I stand by every comment i made.

It'll be interesting to see if Gazza gets a hero's send off.

There was nothing 'snide' about what I stated LargsTON-I'm only asking you to open your eyes.

If you 'stand by every comment', please explain why Gazza 'has your respect', and Best didn't.
mortonjag 2005-12-06 10:25:54
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 6 2005, 10:14 AM) [snapback]66808[/snapback]

Me too, mate.

I read his autobiography on holiday and it came as a bit of a shock to read the story in today's paper.

I sound like a broken record here but it's the preferential treatment Best received that made me lose sympathy for him.

I'm not going over this all again, mortonjag, so keep your wee willie in check.

Last post on this thread - again.

Nobody deserves preferential treatment LargsTON-on that we agree, but if you want to stand by your every inaccurate comment on the disease of alcoholism, you just look like an arrogant prick IMO.

I challenge you not to reply on this thread, but suspect you're just as addicted to your own opinions as poor Gazza is to the booze.
mortonjag 2005-12-06 10:42:55
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 6 2005, 10:28 AM) [snapback]66819[/snapback]

Pot, kettle and no more from me.

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LargsTON, you are obviously just bright enough to be dangerous-I'm not baiting you -you've just suggested to Donga that Best WASN'T seriously ill.

Alcoholism is a VERY serious illness-that's what I've been trying to get people to acknowledge-nothing more, and nothing less.

Hopefully you will shut up now, and I'll certainly respect that if you do.
mortonjag 2005-12-06 10:45:51
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Dec 6 2005, 10:37 AM) [snapback]66825[/snapback]

He's only giving his side of things, and explaining them too, civilly, Jag - can't you do that?

If you think the things he says about my Willie are civil Donga, you're awfy confused.

Mind you I'm not saying he's wrong-just rude! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-06 10:55:34
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Dec 6 2005, 10:50 AM) [snapback]66836[/snapback]

He obv doesn't know about your willie, I hope, and is joking. Your calling him an arrogant p***k and stuff. I disagree with him on this too as seen, but no need for names!

I thought you were the champion of the right to voice opinions. That's what I was doing Donga-not calling him names.

And by the way I've had a fair bit of name calling while I've been away on holiday for the last four days-trying to get the wrinkles out of that article! smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-06 11:02:01 'And when sober is a wonderful person' just says it all for me.

Paul, hopefully, will now go for help, but as every 'recovering' alcoholic knows, he will never be cured, and it's got to be 'one day at a time', for the rest of his life.
mortonjag 2005-12-06 11:13:40
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Dec 6 2005, 11:08 AM) [snapback]66843[/snapback]

Re Gazza in today's papers, In today's record, he's trying to justify it by saying he was out having a drink in memory of George Best, one of his heroes. sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

There's just so much wrong with that it's not funny. sad.gif

Donga, the only people who won't find that ridiculous are fellow alcoholics.

It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if he sincerely believes it.
mortonjag 2005-12-06 11:26:18
QUOTE(1874morton @ Dec 6 2005, 10:31 AM) [snapback]66822[/snapback]

According to the papers this morning, Finlayston may still make it however Greacen is deffenetly out.

I think Jim would be wiser to get Kev fully fit rather than risking him tonight. He's an 'all or nothing' player, and his effectiveness would be wasted if he was carrying an injury.

He and John Adam are 'like chalk and cheese', but I think there's enough flexibility in the squad to list John in the starting eleven, and he's certainly more creative IMO.
mortonjag 2005-12-06 11:40:48 The death of George Best, and the reported behaviour of Paul Gascoigne have yet again brought irresponsible drinking into the limelight.

Medical opinion is now swayed heavily in favour of a genetic origin for alcoholism, and in that respect, it can be viewed in the same light as, for example, diabetes.

If that is correct, then there is a possible future cure in genetic engineering.

What do you think?
mortonjag 2005-12-06 11:45:43
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Dec 6 2005, 11:44 AM) [snapback]66856[/snapback]

Why is there no "yes" option?

Don't know-I'll try to fix it!
mortonjag 2005-12-06 11:47:27 See previous thread
mortonjag 2005-12-06 11:51:26 What do you think?
mortonjag 2005-12-06 11:56:22
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 6 2005, 11:47 AM) [snapback]66861[/snapback]

wink.gif

Bryan -you're a genius-Ta! wink.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-06 12:00:30
QUOTE(se56an @ Dec 6 2005, 11:55 AM) [snapback]66870[/snapback]

Is it an Illness?

With recent threads being done several time, usually by the same person. Also with the medical world openly saying its a brain disease, or lack of one.

What you all think?

OK-off to see the Doc sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-06 12:19:39
QUOTE(piehutt @ Dec 6 2005, 11:54 AM) [snapback]66868[/snapback]

Should people be given lower priority treatment for their own self abuse? Should George Best have been given a liver?

If the results of alcoholism and post natal depression are culpable self abuse, then perhaps 'yes', and 'no', should be the answers.

The truth is that to win a court case with damages of that magnitude awarded against a health authority is unusual, and I don't think any of us is entitled to judge this one without full access to the evidence.
mortonjag 2005-12-06 12:26:31
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Dec 6 2005, 12:16 PM) [snapback]66884[/snapback]

Why? Surely what's most important for a child is to be in a safe environment where it's loved, not the sexual orientation of their parents?

I agree. To assume that a child will suffer from adoption by a gay couple as against a straight one is a strange notion IMO.

I know people will start saying the kid will have a stigma because it doesn't have a 'proper Mummy and Daddy', and there may be something in that, but at the end of the day, being brought up in a loving and caring environment is paramount.
mortonjag 2005-12-06 12:42:04
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Dec 6 2005, 12:29 PM) [snapback]66890[/snapback]

I am not totally against that argument, however I didn't say anything about a child suffering due to being brought up by a same sex couple.

It's just that the couple literally can't have kids.

Sorry Donga, I missed the bit about surrogacy, and for me that's also 'a bridge too far'.

Having said that, maybe I'm just being too narrow minded.
mortonjag 2005-12-06 12:51:02
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Dec 6 2005, 12:46 PM) [snapback]66897[/snapback]

Right, so nothing to do with their sexuality, but their incapacity to physically have a child?

So what of those heterosexual couples who physically can't have children, whether it be through the 'fault' (for want of a better word) of the male or female in the relationship?

I can't fault your logic there 'Naitch' but it's surrogacy which I find a bit difficult-for either straight or gay couples-I don't like the idea of 'Babies Direct'!
mortonjag 2005-12-06 13:00:19
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 6 2005, 11:59 AM) [snapback]66873[/snapback]

Just read it Bryan, and it makes me want to vomit-talk about rubbing your nose in it.

The best thing we can do is not wait for the transfer window, but sign a HIT MAN right now, and I'm sure I don't have to name the target! smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-06 13:47:17 I didn't make the game on Saturday, (first I've missed all season), but I gather Chris Millar played well on the right, and Scott and Jim were tremendous.

I've always rated John Adam-he's been slower to mature than say, Millar or Walker, but his distribution can be superb, and he's got a good shot too.

Alex Walker has played well at right back-I thought he was MOTM at Cowdenbeath-but he is a natural midfielder, and alongside Scott, it would give Chris and Jim more scope to attack.

It's funny how things change. Four or five games ago I couldn't have seen big Stu out of the team, but he hasn't been missed, and I could see the same happening to Kev (for a wee while anyway), so

McGurn

Adam Weatherson Harding McGregor

Millar Walker McLaughlin

McLaren Lilley McAlister,

and if Spoonsy's injured, I'd play Walker in the back four, play Jim deeper, and put either Jason or Temps up front.
mortonjag 2005-12-06 14:04:55
QUOTE(Vialli_No7 @ Dec 6 2005, 10:38 AM) [snapback]66826[/snapback]

It hasnt done Rowan Alexander any harm.

Well Done Jim smile.gif

Alexander is not a proven manager-with the squad available to him he should be awarded 'wanker of the month' if they even drop a point, but I think Stirling did remarkably well, and their resources are nothing like ours.
mortonjag 2005-12-06 14:08:40
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Dec 6 2005, 01:07 PM) [snapback]66910[/snapback]

If you sign a hit man then surely you have to name the target? Otherwise how does he ID his mark?

Fair enough Boozehound, it's just that recent posts have got me a bit paranoid about lawsuits, but how about pony tail, bible, and more money than sense, for a clue? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-06 14:24:50
QUOTE(AyrAndy @ Dec 6 2005, 01:17 PM) [snapback]66915[/snapback]

TBH I don't think it is genetic, I know of people who have an alcoholic parent, but they are not and are able to take alcohol in a reasonable manner. IMO it is down to the individual and how they can handle it.

I admire the skill of George Best as a footballer but as a human being he wasted the 2nd/3rd chances he had, he could have used that time to warn youngsters of how alcoholism can ruin their lifes and those around them sadly, that powerful message of how he died at a young age (IMO he was far too young)has been lost amidst the hero worship.

Andy, I've met a lot of people with red hair whose parents don't have it. Recessive genes can skip generations, and the full genetic picture is even more complicated.

Unfortunately, though, it's not as simple as that. The originally well publicised Siamese twins were genetically identical, and one died of alcoholism, while the other appeared immune.
mortonjag 2005-12-06 19:43:59
QUOTE(AyrAndy @ Dec 6 2005, 02:36 PM) [snapback]66972[/snapback]

Aye lets all blame the genetics, nowadys everytime there is an "illness" derived from an addiction people want to put it down to genetics.

I smoke, its an addiction, is it genetic, not flaming likely, it's down to me being too weakminded and feeble at present to kick it and I wouldn't look for any other excuse for it, especially the easy one that takes away any form of self responsibilty.

Andy, it's not alcoholics who are citing genetics as an excuse for feebleness and weakmindedness, it's specialists who have come up with this explanation, based on years of research.

So far, they haven't identified a specific gene for alcoholism, but that breakthrough is likely in the near future.

As for smoking, far less research has been done, but there is no doubt that certain individuals have 'addictive personalities' which are probably inherited, and they are far more vulnerable to getting hooked on the weed than others.
mortonjag 2005-12-07 07:49:30
QUOTE(AyrAndy @ Dec 6 2005, 10:37 PM) [snapback]67345[/snapback]

I'll be sure to ask the specialist this when my wife and I take my Father in Law to the Liver Transplant unit in Edinburgh later this month for a week long transplant assessment. 54 years old and this is his last option, years of drinking has phucked him. He wasn't an all day drinker,held a good job but down the pub most nights for a good few, ask him and he will tell you he brought this on himself.

Correct-he did bring it on himself because he drank excessively and irresponsibly.

Presumably he would agree he is an alcoholic-one of those unlucky people who can't just 'enjoy' a good drink.

Yes Andy, he brought it on himself in exactly the same way as someone who dies early from morbid obesity, and I'm not talking about 'greedy fat b*stards'.

Some people are genetically fat because their metabolism is 'cocked up' -mind you if they exercised enough self control, and ate for all of their lives like sparrows, they could have a normal lifespan.

Tell your father-in-law to stop crucifying himself Andy, and the very, very best of luck with the transplant.
mortonjag 2005-12-07 08:45:59
QUOTE(AyrAndy @ Dec 7 2005, 08:08 AM) [snapback]67453[/snapback]

you seen a picture of me then, but my problem is that I'm big boned as well as my amazingly slow metabolism biggrin.gif
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mortonjag 2005-12-07 09:13:50
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 6 2005, 04:22 PM) [snapback]67070[/snapback]

They were in control enough to chase the millions that were going. mad.gif

She should be thankful she does not live in Inverclyde or she would more than likely not be here to claim compensation.

I am sorry for the apparent lack of feeling towards this young woman, but there are many more deserving people out there who don't moan that it has taken 30 mins to get to her.

I suspect a 'family' member has actioned this.
Better odds than the lottery i suppose. mad.gif

It's as simple as this Barbarossa-if your wife had suffered brain damage because firstly she no longer felt able to cope with the misery of PND, and secondly, an ambulance service 'cocked up', no compensation would be enough IMO.

And just a point of information-only a tiny percentage of 'overdoses' are planned suicides, the vast majority being accidental, manipulative, or acts of sheer despair.
mortonjag 2005-12-07 09:27:53
QUOTE(steveoath @ Dec 7 2005, 12:41 AM) [snapback]67427[/snapback]

Does anyone else reckon Lilley's posture makes him look like he's swaggering around the park looking for someone to Malky? We were laughing at this during the game, but also thinking.... the lilley we've got now is so much better than the one we sold all those years ago!

Steve

Exactly Steve, and have you also noticed that when he's not in the thick of it, he trots about as though he's got divers' boots on!
mortonjag 2005-12-07 09:33:03
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 7 2005, 08:59 AM) [snapback]67474[/snapback]

Ages yet. tongue.gif

Still very rough around the edges.

I agree with that LargsTON, but share the same fears as se56an-it's when kids are at this stage that the big names try to snap them up.

I'll never forget being quite happy when we offloaded Joe Jordan-he had been pretty ineffective, and I guess I was too young to see the potential in him.
mortonjag 2005-12-07 10:03:00
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Dec 6 2005, 04:04 PM) [snapback]67040[/snapback]

Hmmmm, some subtle and not so subtle arguments on this discussion.

Personally I have no issue with a legally binding contract that gives the equivalent rights to a same sex couple as you would be entitled to as a 'married' couple. In some respects though I think that the whole 'institution of marriage' is being eroded with the direct link of civil partnerships to marriage. There is a certain clause in most weddings - until death do we part - which is basically ignored because it doesn't suit our 'modern' views. Just look at Holywood weddings for example - average timeline is about 6 months these days

As to entitlement to adoption or in general the raising of kids within a civil partnership, I have mixed feelings. Technically I go with the 'you don't have the right equipment so no chance' argument, but then how do you police such a position? A woman could get pregnant outside of marriage and then discover she is actually homosexual. Or how about about genetic irregularities?
As for this nonsense. Strongbad are you saying that kids should only be brought up in a 'standard' family unit - the absolute back-to-basics principle. What about single-parent families?

ScotinBelgie

Scot, I'm friendly with a guy who got married about fourteen years ago, and he and his wife had two children.

The marriage was never unhappy, and the kids are 'bright wee cookies', but three years ago Brian was devastated when his wife admitted she had realised she was gay, and wanted to move in with a woman.

Brian has managed to cope with this amazingly. The kids live with their 'two Mums', and he has complete freedom to see them as often as he pleases.

I can assure you that those two would be a credit to any parent/s, and don't seem to have suffered in the slightest.
mortonjag 2005-12-07 10:27:31 Most goals from corners are headers. If you've got a towering, and powerful header in your side you should get a fair share.

We haven't-the best's probably big Stu-and he's not THAT big. Think Kevin James-sadly not Chris T.

That's why they've been trying to work out how to capitalise.

I remember counting at least fifteen corners from the left in the Alloa game-only a couple were 'short', and we got absolutely nothing from them.

I've got to disagree with those who say Andy Mclaren can't take a corner- somebody's got to get on the end of them.
mortonjag 2005-12-07 10:30:17
QUOTE(South Lanarkshire Jag @ Dec 7 2005, 09:52 AM) [snapback]67493[/snapback]

Colin Hardie is a class referee

Yip-usually does schools football sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-07 10:32:50
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Dec 7 2005, 10:16 AM) [snapback]67512[/snapback]

Is it wrong that this happened round the corner from me and yet I'm not bothered in the slightest?

If you had the gun Boozehound-YES! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-07 10:38:30 Too little too late for Big Eck, I suspect-I really feel sorry for him-if that lot could turn it on last night without Prso, what the f*ck's been going on in the SPL every Saturday?
mortonjag 2005-12-07 10:49:06
QUOTE(Muz @ Dec 7 2005, 10:46 AM) [snapback]67536[/snapback]

Eh?

Half of them were on a plate-feck all to do with conditions!!!

Yip, a slippy one Muz-try picking a fried mushroom off one! smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-07 11:02:36
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Dec 7 2005, 10:57 AM) [snapback]67556[/snapback]

I think the main priority was the three points, but wouldn't it have been common sense to put the game back till tonight?

Absolutely, and by the Chairman's computations, we could have taken in another £3000-£4000-can't understand the decision at all.
mortonjag 2005-12-07 11:32:03
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Dec 7 2005, 11:20 AM) [snapback]67574[/snapback]

I thought Lilley was outstanding last night, he has really came back well from that slump in form. Hes got Deuchar in his sights already!

We should have scored more and that goal could have been avoided but we would only have scored one or two more goals there.

Hope he shoots the fouling B-lend him yer gun MB
mortonjag 2005-12-07 11:40:26
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Dec 7 2005, 11:12 AM) [snapback]67569[/snapback]

gay marriage ? shouldn't be allowed its not normal !

Who decides what's normal?

Anyway hating fig rolls is abnormal IMO-shouldn't be allowed smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-07 11:54:41 And Donga a lot easier than a shamrock-but nothing would surprise me now!
mortonjag 2005-12-07 12:24:33
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Dec 7 2005, 12:04 PM) [snapback]67613[/snapback]

Celtic in Europe next season, commentator:

"Lot of white cards here being held up in the surprise crowd picture Celtic have organised for their return to the European arena....it's taking shape....looks like a black and white photograph.......very narrow though.....ah, it's Bobby Sands."

unsure.gif -'and back to the game-Hartson shoots just wide-that man really has such a hunger for goals' laugh.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-07 12:34:50 David's lost a good couple of active seasons through injury, and he's not 25 yet. Don't know if he'll ever be the classiest of players, but he's looking much more solid and confident, and his distribution is excellent. I'd certainly continue to play him where he is.
mortonjag 2005-12-07 12:38:04
QUOTE(Cet homme charmant @ Dec 7 2005, 12:31 PM) [snapback]67626[/snapback]

'.... this Cetic squad have been decimated with injuries and suspensions, in fact boss Gordon Stachan said they're right down to the bare bones.'

'Frankly I'm aMAZEd their coping so well'
mortonjag 2005-12-07 14:07:50
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Dec 7 2005, 02:00 PM) [snapback]67679[/snapback]

Thats great, very enlightening and civil of them.
Does he get to watch? cool.gif

Don't think he shares your interests (Soupy) Fanny van Dyke-but grammatical error well spotted!
mortonjag 2005-12-07 16:31:16 Judging by the crowd, I doubt if we should be singling out Willowman-but we might as well take their pennies when we can get them.
mortonjag 2005-12-07 17:45:42
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 7 2005, 04:48 PM) [snapback]67799[/snapback]

Needs to improve his finishing, which is shocking to say the least.
I reckon he's a fantastic prospect but would be much better if played on the right wing.

Do you mean as an actual right winger, or right midfield? He's naturally right footed, and certainly playing out of position at the moment, but I'm not sure that his style of play lends itself to being stuck way out on the wing.

I've also noticed that he almost always beats a man (from the left) by flicking the ball inside, and using his pace to get past. If he was stuck out on the wing that option's virtually gone.

I watched him play right midfield for the reserves when John Maisano was at his best with us a couple of seasons back, and remember thinking that Jim wasn't as experienced or silky, but showed more urgency and dig from that position.
mortonjag 2005-12-07 18:19:01
QUOTE(dazza @ Dec 7 2005, 06:03 PM) [snapback]67849[/snapback]

lilley was head and above the rest of the park for the 4th game in a row.

Millar set him up for the goal, that is all. did his usual nothing off the ball.
Mclaughlan covers his arse time after time

Are you at the 'wind up' Dazza. Scott's work rate is tremendous, but to say Chris 'does his usual nothing off the ball' is ludicrous. The wee guy runs his heart out in every game--non-stop!
mortonjag 2005-12-08 07:09:21 Strongad et not very many al are getting totally befuddled.

Normality is one of the most misused words in the dictionary.

I think he means generally acceptable or accepted.

Paedophilia is not, while homosexuality arguably now is, evenly if greatly misunderstood by 'normal' people.

Sticking your penis up another man's bum is as abhorrent to most straight men as is the initial discovery by gay blokes that that's what they are naturally programmed to do, and some of them live a miserable life because they are perceived as 'poofs', queers', benders', and so on.

Strongbad, if you haven't calmed down after your 'few beers', it looks like that blowjob's heading North-beware it might be Super Nanny! smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-08 08:53:04 ThornTON, you're too young to remember the days when Ayr United were a fairly respected name in Scottish football.

Using statistics in this way can be good fun, and certainly interesting, but they mean absolutely nothing unless they are presented in a relevant way.

If you take Scottish cup finals for example, you could correctly argue that we are every bit as good as Rangers.
mortonjag 2005-12-08 09:22:47
QUOTE(glencoe 1692 @ Dec 7 2005, 04:33 PM) [snapback]67785[/snapback]

cant make all this hype, about first scottish team to get this far, out,

celtic won the bloody thing in 1967, and were the first british team to do so.

not liking either old firm team, but remember listening to it on an old radio set and wanting celtic to win.

albeit it was a different format then and not all this leagues and format as now, but my record book shows they won it first.
surely for rangers when they have won it , is the time to celebrate, and say they are the most furthest travelled scottish team.
just my opinion mind.

In 1967 Celtic had a team composed of eleven guys who lived within a relatively short distance of Parkhead, and despite the Irish Catholic origins of the club, were plainly a SCOTTISH team.

If you ask anybody who was in Glasgow that night, as I was, I'm sure they'll agree that just about everybody, including most of the Huns, were willing them on to win for our national pride.

How things have changed-what percentage of the Old Firm first team squads is now Scottish-(or of any SPL team for that matter)?

I would like Rangers to do well in Europe because they are identified as Scottish, and it would improve our international image, but if you are going to cite record books, you should only compare like with like.
mortonjag 2005-12-08 09:29:02
QUOTE(Alibi @ Dec 8 2005, 09:22 AM) [snapback]68004[/snapback]

The light need to be higher up. Why were the moved from the gantries on the roof? Mind you they're a lot better than Alloa - there's no lighting in the middle of the park there at all.

Alibi-how much would it cost to put in a new system?
mortonjag 2005-12-08 09:57:31
QUOTE(jpmil @ Dec 8 2005, 09:08 AM) [snapback]67997[/snapback]

I'm with piehutt on this one! I gaveup buying the Daily Ranger some considerable time ago and switched to the Sun. It isn't much of a newspaper but we do get a pretty decent coverage in the Sports section.

rolleyes.gif unsure.gif

So you only look at the pages with coverage! wink.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-08 11:00:00
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Dec 7 2005, 02:00 PM) [snapback]67679[/snapback]

Thats great, very enlightening and civil of them.
Does he get to watch? cool.gif

Morning Fanny van Dyke-I've just been updating myself on posts on the board.

Se56an called me a 'prick'-that's fine-I've been called a lot worse-BUT-WHAT'S WITH THE 'Mortonjag supressing the homosexual community' bit? mad.gif

Slagging, jibes, and ridicule are all part of the accepted fun on this board-but I'm sorry -cockaleekie c*nt-please READ my posts next time before your nasty little fingers adulterate the keyboard.

I've been a constant supporter of gay rights for years and my posts are consistent with that.

Call me 'POOF' in response by all means-my (female and only) partner would have a belly laugh!
mortonjag 2005-12-08 11:04:55
QUOTE(porTONian @ Dec 8 2005, 10:48 AM) [snapback]68022[/snapback]

The figure quoted to me was some where in the region of between 1/2 and 3/4 million £.

Which explains everything-how could the club cope with that bill, given the current (no pun intended) income?
mortonjag 2005-12-08 11:53:38
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Dec 8 2005, 11:38 AM) [snapback]68030[/snapback]

I think Chris is a vital part of the team. I think any time he has been out injured we have badly missed him, and the extra dimension he brings to our play. I find it astonishing that one or two have questioned his commitment. He doesn't throw himself into the killer tackles against bigger opponents, but that's not his strength.

Chris runs his heart out and shows a different kind of bravery when he picks the ball up and goes on direct runs into the heart of the opposition defence. His shooting form has currently dipped, but I believe he was involved in 10 of our last 12 goals which is an outstanding contribution for a midfielder.

Why do some fans insist on looking past our players strengths and looking for faults? With Chris Millar they ignore his workrate, creative skill and running ability, and focus on his lesser tackling ability. With Kevin Finlayson it's almost the reverse, they ignore his tackling and defensive abilities, and focus on his lesser creative abilities.

Players who excel in every aspect of the game are very rare, and mostly play at the very top level, even then they only get to that stage through years of experience.

I think we are very fortunate to have our current standard of players. It would be great to have Frank Lampard playing second division football at Cappielow but maybe we should join the real world and just encourage our players to play to the best of their considerable ability.

DOT, I agree with you, and this topic reminds me of the slagging I took, when I criticised Kev for his bad points-people didn't seem to read the posts as I ALWAYS praised his virtues as well. It's a pity you couldn't have Kev and Chris rolled into one (and 6 inches taller)!

I've always seen right midfield as Chris's position, but the modern game is about a squad, not just eleven men. Against some teams Kev might be a better option there than Chris-anyway Jim's the boss!
mortonjag 2005-12-08 12:08:03
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Dec 8 2005, 11:53 AM) [snapback]68037[/snapback]

You really have a terrible habbit of making a fool of yourself little man. rolleyes.gif

Why does Soupy Fanny get upset so easily-spewing out her spleen so fast she can't spell-DRIVLE/HABBIT/BALH smile.gif

Madam, nothing you say or have said takes anything away from the truth in my previous post.

I've noticed YOU have a terrible habit of posting meaningless jibes at all and sundry.

Would you care to venture EVEN ONE constructive statement of your OWN opinion, or would you rather continue to pleasure yourself by attacking others? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-08 12:22:01
QUOTE(Alibi @ Dec 8 2005, 12:02 PM) [snapback]68041[/snapback]

It's because it's all money-driven now.

I would like Rangers to get utterly stuffed home and away, because I detest them. They're not representing Scotland any more than Tony Blair represents Scotland. Or Quisling represented Norway.

Alibi-I also detest the Old Firm-but what you've said seems a bit heavy.

Rangers may not, as you state, be 'representing Scotland', but they are undoubtedly perceived internationally as a Scottish club, so why 'shoot yourself in the foot' by wanting they to look like duffers when playing abroad?
mortonjag 2005-12-08 12:30:00
QUOTE(Ton Ton Macoute @ Dec 8 2005, 12:23 PM) [snapback]68047[/snapback]

Arkleston ma fren. It becomining pretty dam' obvious dat de well known Garlic breathed chutney ferret Cet homo charcoal engaged in de stalking. He seeeming to know where ya live ohmy.gif

Any sign of a short ass troll round ya way?

Disgraceful man-'Cet homo charcoal'-racism and homophobia rolled into three words-Ton Ton-and that coming from a black man-what can I say? smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-08 12:52:26
QUOTE(Jackie @ Dec 8 2005, 10:05 AM) [snapback]68014[/snapback]

Dead 25 years today.


IMAGINE !

Death of a genius IMO sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-08 13:02:05
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Dec 8 2005, 01:00 PM) [snapback]68054[/snapback]

Becky (24, London) and Melanie (23, Morecambe) have found love...... with each other....

From now on they'll only pose together and will be revealing their intimate secrets. I can empathise with those people who see this as cheapening themselves and using their relationship as a publicity stunt. However, my thoughts are simply....

Ya f***ing dancer! biggrin.gif

I take it you admire their fortitude wink.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-08 13:35:05
QUOTE(standman @ Dec 8 2005, 01:28 PM) [snapback]68069[/snapback]

Did you hear about the fight in the fish shop ? There was a right st-ushi !

(thought it would make a change from a haddock got battered!)

Totally out of plaice!
mortonjag 2005-12-08 13:53:54
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Dec 8 2005, 01:13 PM) [snapback]68062[/snapback]

Christ, did you borrow that from a Daily Mail editorial. "Natural" is one of the most subjective adjective's around. When it's used it is usually to back up something illiberal in slant.

NATURAL/NORMAL/GOD GIVEN-I agree TAFKAK all totally subjective, and what on earth makes piehutt believe that the children of single parent families will BY NURTURE be less intelligent and less employable.

I'm sure he's got those statistics from somewhere (maybe the Tory Manifesto), and numerically they ARE correct.

They do not, however, take into account the average intelligence of the single parents, or for example the social status.

Most of those kids don't have much going for them from the moment of conception, and IMO the presence of the father would often worsen their chances of getting on in life.

I think the influence of ANY OLD Mummy and Daddy versus a caring (even if not particularly bright) single parent is grossly overplayed.
mortonjag 2005-12-09 08:51:01
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Dec 8 2005, 04:34 PM) [snapback]68124[/snapback]

Oh dear, oh dear when the argument is lost, what are we left with Polly? - Despite your own poor attempt at word play you strike out with the old fashioned attack on the spelling,!
Well hey hey!! . For the love of God, Sally, let it go!
You really do, and I say this kindly Mary, appear to be a sad, lonely and pathetic little poster, and this is the very sad bit, who is making a desperate cry out for some attention and maybe, God willing, friends. (I'm nearly upset here dry.gif )

Well hear the news Shirley!!!,
Your level of your popularity on this web site is only marginally less than your own humility and good-grace .There is more horrible stuff coming, so hold tightly to that little teddy bear there Katy, - Your small mindlessness and pomposity knows no bounds and your pointless superciliousness reaches a level of contempabilty that has not been seen or felt on this board for a number of years.

If you have taken offence to my insults little man, then be comforted that the only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can’t ignore it, top it; if you can’t top it, laugh at it; if you can’t laugh at it, it’s probably deserved.

I fear the latter is best suited to yourself little fellow.

run along now. rolleyes.gif
shooo !!

One of your better efforts darling-glad you took my advice and are still taking the pills-but don't get too cocky on it and miss that hospital appointment. smile.gif

Oh, and before I go, are you EVER going to emerge from the cackling closet, and give us a sensible opinion on something. The other female posters put you to shame tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-09 08:57:05
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Dec 8 2005, 02:02 PM) [snapback]68082[/snapback]

How the hell does being brought up by a single parent affect someones intelligence?

Not getting at you there MortonJag.

Absolutely nothing-I agree with you on that one-intelligence is genetic.
mortonjag 2005-12-09 09:04:41
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 8 2005, 07:43 PM) [snapback]68213[/snapback]

Ever done a lady up the juke box?

I had a mate who was short of lubricant one night so used utterly butterly. He said his knob was green when he withdrew.

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Tell him to keep away from frogs in the future
mortonjag 2005-12-09 09:31:34 IMO some alcoholics die without ever having touched the booze-it's a genetic illness, and can manifest itself in countless ways.

In terms of definition, the other posters have outlined the accepted medical perception of the illness.

Powerlessness over the urge to drink, and total loss of control of drinking are classical signs of full blown alcoholism.
mortonjag 2005-12-09 09:58:43
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Dec 8 2005, 05:32 PM) [snapback]68156[/snapback]

Sodomy isn't just one guy on another (in the arse), mate. It also encompases male-female oral sex, male-femal anal sex, and bestiality (which is sickening!).

Where do you get the 'male-female oral sex' bit Trick?

Sodomy is any form of anal intercourse and also includes bestiality.

The only form of oral sex that could be remotely construed as sodomy would be 'tongue in bum', which I think is more accurately described as a peculiar taste!
mortonjag 2005-12-09 10:08:28
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Dec 9 2005, 09:57 AM) [snapback]68513[/snapback]

Are you an alcoholic if you 'only' have one drink a day - possibly!
Are you an alcoholic if you binge at the weekend - possibly!

If I remember rightly there is a defined average weekly number of units above which the medical profession deems suspect. I think it may be as low as 15 units (or the equivalent of 2 pints per day). Of course this is a medical average / recommended upper limit type of statistic, which by their nature actually apply to no one.

The Alcohol Treatment Unit at Ravenscraig (I think it's now up at the IRH) did do some work on this topic including looking into alcohol dementia.

Unfortunately most people don't see the harm in alcohol until it's too late.

Now that rant's finished, I'm off down the pub!

The use of units of alcohol is referable to the potential damage from it Scot-not a predictor or determinant of alcoholism.

Enjoy the pub, but don't drink and drive-you'll spill it! sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-09 10:12:54
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Dec 8 2005, 04:41 PM) [snapback]68132[/snapback]

It's always me me me with you is'nt it Susan! rolleyes.gif

Well it's actually 'Moi, Moi, Moi' ma chere turdette, but I choose to lower the tone when I know you're on the board. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-09 10:15:05
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 8 2005, 08:28 PM) [snapback]68247[/snapback]

Great post and if i'm being honest i'm guilty of that on here more than most - except mortonjag.

Don't let that upset you LargsTON-your culpability is coming on nicely. smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-09 11:44:37
QUOTE(hotburrito @ Dec 9 2005, 11:31 AM) [snapback]68537[/snapback]

are you f***in' trippin'?

aye, there are people who have "addictive personalities" but if they never touch drink they aint a friggin alky!?! blink.gif

apparently if you drink over the recommended daily allowance at the weekend you've got a problem. so we're all alky bastards.

on a sadder note,
one of the guys who works behind the bar in the kempock (not the owner) told me about 4 months ago, that he drank 500 units a day, while he sipped (straight faced) from a half-pint of heavy.

recommended weekly amounts

men 21
wummin 14

so hes drinking 23 times the weekly amount PER DAY dry.gif
its about 2 units in an ordinary strength pint so hes drinking 250 pints a day huh.gif
he might have mentioned something about spirits but still...........f*** off you lying c***!

his f***ing "mate" is sitting there backing him up.
how sad is it when you have to lie about how "good" you are at drinking. fud. laugh.gif

Honestly hot b I'm not 'trippin' as you put it. I understand what you are saying and it's just a difference of semantics.

To me, once an alcoholic always an alcoholic, and you're born with the gene.

Just in the same way as you have 'recovering alcoholics' who can spend say the last 50 years of their lives teetotal, you can have alcoholics who never knew they were, as they never tried the stuff.

Call them 'latent alcoholics' if you like-they've still got the illness without it's manifestations.
mortonjag 2005-12-09 12:04:06 What has struck me more than anything else is that over the past month the team has taken shape, and started to make things happen.

That's taken almost four months to achieve, and I believe it will get better without complicating things with new faces (and new jealousies).

We now have a setup which, in any normal season, would guarantee the championship -and it's pleasing that Jim McInally's achieving with players what Alexander is with money.

My only concession is that I'd take Derek McInnes back at the drop of a hat.
mortonjag 2005-12-09 12:14:52 I think everybody's made a valid point.

What I wonder is whether the coverage would have differed if it had been two old ladies shot in cold blood in otherwise identical circumstances.
mortonjag 2005-12-09 12:22:58
QUOTE(Ton Ton Macoute @ Dec 9 2005, 12:18 PM) [snapback]68552[/snapback]

Damned right- if de disgutin' sodomites manage to get one o' dem to conceive whilst pummelin' each others gary glittter den dey should be allowed to keep de child. rolleyes.gif

And the money from the 'SUN'!
mortonjag 2005-12-09 12:37:59
QUOTE(rex manning @ Dec 9 2005, 12:28 PM) [snapback]68559[/snapback]

ha ha i said raising, chaps, not conceiving. if a gay couple do conceive then we should definitley take the child off the godless barbarians as surely the spawn will be the anti christ..

And theology turned on it's head if they're twins! huh.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-09 13:15:34
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Dec 9 2005, 12:46 PM) [snapback]68565[/snapback]

Would say that creative skills is something that Millar lacks. Not the best time for this comment I know, as he set up the first goal the other night, but in general his passing isn't up to much at all, and his shooting is a waste of time really. Obviously the aerial ability can be mostly ignored.

I'd say he does work hard (although he's not brave), and is mobile (although typically of a wee guy he's not as fast as he looks... his wee legs go quickly but don't cover much ground).

I'd have him in my starting 11, but he's got a lot of weaknesses. As you can gather, not one of my favourite players, find him very frustrating to watch.

So he's not creative, can't pass or shoot, is useless in the air, and looks fast but isn't really.

Mind you he DOES WORK HARD (though a coward at heart), and IS mobile.

Sounds awful like ma Auntie Mary.

Come to think of it, she's not as mobile as she used to be-anyway it's heartening to hear that he'd be in your starting eleven-but would you not be better with a footballer?
mortonjag 2005-12-09 13:21:45 'Concise' is to dictionary as tabloid is to broadsheet. The bigger ones will find you both right on all counts.
mortonjag 2005-12-09 13:23:54
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 9 2005, 01:20 PM) [snapback]68572[/snapback]

thats a tad harsh rolleyes.gif

Bryan, I don't think he is-I'm paraphrasing from the zany Doc!
mortonjag 2005-12-09 20:51:34 From Sushi to Sodom and back.
Is the need for protecting your bum-
As long as you're kind to that wee hole behind-
It'll serve you for decades to come.
mortonjag 2005-12-09 21:01:29
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 9 2005, 08:22 PM) [snapback]68774[/snapback]

These last two posts have confirmed my suspicions. When it comes to alcoholism you ain't got a clue.

You claim to have years of experience in the field laugh.gif well God help anyone you try to counsel. I suspect you've read a few books. You sound like one of these experts we always hear of who rattles off facts and statistics from the comfort of his leafy Glasgow suburb but has never dealt with things first hand.

I'm now joining ThornTON and making you my first poster to go on ignore.

You are the weakest link.

GOODBYE!

smile.gif

You're so defensive, son, it's unbelievable-get a f*cking life. Professional etiquette prevents me from disclosing my credentials on this board, but ANYBODY who really has a specialist knowledge of addictive problems will see where you're coming from a mile away. Stop adulterating proven clinical fact with your self opinionated and uninformed prattlings-oh and have another beer on me!
mortonjag 2005-12-09 21:14:46
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 9 2005, 09:06 PM) [snapback]68794[/snapback]

I suspect there was the usual arrogant, condescending pish in that post there.

Amen to Nacho.

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Maybe all your arrant stupidity deserves is condescension and arrogance LargsTON-you are so inconsistent-'I'm ignoring this nasty man-well-maybe'

As I said -stick to things you've studied-any fool can THINK he knows.

By the way I wouldn't dream of putting you on ignore-you're far too laughable! smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-09 21:28:24
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 9 2005, 08:46 PM) [snapback]68789[/snapback]

Agree completely.

Sounds to me like a concurrence of know nothing 'know it alls'. Why don't you guys just type WE HATE CHRIS MILLAR-at least then you might get some credit for honesty.
mortonjag 2005-12-09 21:42:09 FAO LargsTON-as and when he inevitably reads this (like a dog returns to it's vomit).

I have little idea of, and care even less about what other posters think of me.

You have probably not clocked this, but I NEVER get into debate with, or try to bring down the posters who are young, inexperienced, or just not very bright.

What does really 'get on my tits' is when those people have to listen to information put in an APPARENTLY informed and intelligent manner by ignorami like you.

I will not be drawn into disclosing my qualifications LargsTON, but if I did, you'd look an even dafter bimbo than you do already.

Why don't you take a trip to the library and do some research into alcohol and addiction instead of flogging the dead horse of your own uneducated opinion.

AND-one more point, sonny boy, you may not believe it, but I DO defer to superior knowledge, and always will.
mortonjag 2005-12-09 21:54:15
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 9 2005, 09:47 PM) [snapback]68816[/snapback]

Me and my considerable bellow will not be in attendance so twice as loud as normal please.

Delighted to hear that LargsTON-the rapturous pleasure at your absence will undoubtedly make up for you usual bovine eructations tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-09 22:03:53
QUOTE(midTONs @ Dec 9 2005, 10:00 PM) [snapback]68820[/snapback]

Hey Bob, I believe this is addressed to you. tongue.gif
laugh.gif laugh.gif

midTONs-you're a mixer! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-09 22:07:08 Cup tie and Ayr smarting from recent defeat-let's just go with crossed fingers and toes!
mortonjag 2005-12-09 22:09:00 LargsTON is ALWAYS 'OFF'-game will be on! sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-09 22:19:59
QUOTE(midTONs @ Dec 9 2005, 10:12 PM) [snapback]68829[/snapback]

mortonjag you are very polite in your interpretation of me, others are never as kind, but in my defence I just want to keep Bob and you good self on an equal footing.

tongue.gif

laugh.gif

Thanks midTONs, but the wee boy really shouldn't have to play 'Hide and seek' with me.

IMHO 'ignorers' are just 'coppers out', and despite his brazen ignorance of this particular topic, yer 'Bob' had dug such a deep hole he might just have re-emerged with some credit for his pig ignorant persistence. To say the least, 'I'm disappointed in him'! smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-09 22:28:58
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 9 2005, 10:25 PM) [snapback]68835[/snapback]

Save your sniggers, Gaffa! rolleyes.gif

I've a wee trip to Peterhead to look forward to next week.

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Good-I hope you don't get remission, 'cos you piss me off! mad.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-09 22:32:32
QUOTE(midTONs @ Dec 9 2005, 10:30 PM) [snapback]68837[/snapback]

I eagerly await Bobs reply on that one ohmy.gif
tongue.gif laugh.gif

Maybe he IS off to the library-all this night shift stuff's got him confused! smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-09 22:46:41
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Dec 9 2005, 10:35 PM) [snapback]68839[/snapback]

With respect, I think a lot of people in the West of Scotland will have family memebers who are/were alcoholics - while there is a genetic component, it's not as straightforward as 'your parent was an alchy, you will be too'

And I know what you mean - but not all people react to having had an alcoholic parent / grandparent in the same way...

If he is genetically alcoholic, the history of alcoholism in the family is not going to control his drinking any more than wild horses will-perhaps with the rider (sorry), that if he, in apprehension, remains teetotal all of his life, he may die a 'latent' alcoholic.
mortonjag 2005-12-09 22:50:22
QUOTE(Davie @ Dec 9 2005, 10:48 PM) [snapback]68845[/snapback]

I have a sneaky feeling that LargsTON will be supporting his new founded team, St.Mirren. He will be at Dens Park tomorrow with the Buddies, and not in his bed when he is supposedly on nightshift.

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Ahah-not 'BUNK'---'SKUNK'-explains everything Davie! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-09 22:52:36
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 9 2005, 10:49 PM) [snapback]68846[/snapback]

This weeks south park episode (in the states) fits in with this topic far too well.

But LargsTON'll be at the 'Proms' puggsy! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-09 22:59:31
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Dec 9 2005, 10:52 PM) [snapback]68849[/snapback]

Hmmm...

It's just that I know ppl who had alcoholic parents who have not had a problem themselves with alcohol (perhaps because they are very aware of it)

I know it's anecdotal evidence, but I think the 'addictive personality' theory (is it still a theory?) is a bit closer to the truth...

Laura, the 'addictive personality theory' is probably the best we can come up with at the moment, and experience undoubtedly shows that 'addicts' will inevitably replace one type of addiction with another-e.g. goes on the wagon, and drives her husband crazy with obsessive house cleaning.

I don't know if individual addictions will ever be proved to be gene specific, but I certainly am convinced of the genetic origins of alcoholism.
mortonjag 2005-12-09 23:16:38 MidTONs, I don't think I know a single soul on the board, and I'm glad it's that way. Anonymity, impartiality, and independence for me.

The laugh is that if I stood or sat beside, say, LargsTON at a game, and we got talking, we'd probably end up the best of buddies.

Let's face it- this is only for fun. smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-09 23:28:37
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 9 2005, 11:21 PM) [snapback]68860[/snapback]

Again, i agree.

I've spoke to Chris Millar on a night out and he's a decent enough guy. I'll judge him by what i see on the pitch, nothing else.

Exactly your problem-you always judge by what you see, but never get your eyes tested,-and to Zhivago-you've at least tried to explain your opinion, but how do you tie that in with an analysis of our season, which shows that Chris, arguably, has been involved in more goal producing moves than anyone else?
mortonjag 2005-12-10 07:28:11
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 10 2005, 12:40 AM) [snapback]68896[/snapback]

Listen dumplinheid, i've posted umpteen times why i don't rate Millar that highly with almost identical reasons given by Zhivago.

I don't have to "try to explain" this every single time to keep you happy.

For a man your age, you've a lot to learn. My fiance's 3 year old Niece has more manners.

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Dumplinheid's actually quite a nice name-I think it suets me Myops.

Don't forget your Specsavers appointment today-you might even bump into Zhivago, and Ian Fyfe.

By the way, you missed out the full stop after 'old'. It's sweet that you have a nice niece, but what's this with shagging 3 year old boys. Naughty, naughty LargsTON. (Perhaps you meant fiancee but have got mixed up with all the gay wedding stuff) sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-10 07:55:52
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 9 2005, 10:03 PM) [snapback]68822[/snapback]

mad.gif rolleyes.gif

Never seen the word "ignorami" used before.

Very good.

Christ LargsTON-you've just admitted you are one of them. Now I'll be getting a row from that sweet little cowgirl Mrs Moo for being pedantic.

Original Latin plural of ignoramus (someone lacking knowledge)-use ignoramuses if you like, but the original word like 'sushi' has a more pleasant oriental flavour IMO.
mortonjag 2005-12-10 08:24:17
QUOTE(hugo_swire @ Dec 10 2005, 08:20 AM) [snapback]69034[/snapback]

same sex marriages?

as the great philosopher Robert Corbett once said.

"f***ing disgusting"

Plainly a better comedian than brother Ronnie.
mortonjag 2005-12-10 08:39:46
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Dec 10 2005, 08:33 AM) [snapback]69040[/snapback]

What a cnt - comparing homosexuals to paedophiles? What a cnt! laugh.gif

Get lost.

The only fair comparison is that they both have sexual preferences which they didn't choose and often don't want.

The problem with paedophilia is that the other party is generally unconsenting and therefore a victim of a criminal act.

I can sympathise with the problems paedophiles have- but like most others am totally disgusted when they fail to control their antisocial urges.
mortonjag 2005-12-10 08:53:24
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Dec 10 2005, 08:31 AM) [snapback]69039[/snapback]

I agree with that comment, post number 22 on one of the many alcoholic type threads in the next link (Why are there so many multiple threads getting started up by the way - can't you just add to existing ones about the same subject?)

http://www.greenockmorton.net/forum/index....topic=3558&st=0
I think alcoholism is displayed when people get their wages and blow most of it, if not all on the Friday on drink - my granda worked in the yards and he'd get annihalated every Friday, go missing at the weekend then come back but to be fair to him with my granny's money and stuff.

You're right Donga-irresponsible spending on booze is a sure sign of some problem-trouble is, there are plenty of rich alcoholics too, and the money aspect doesn't pose a problem there, but something else inevitably does.
mortonjag 2005-12-10 09:05:44
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Dec 10 2005, 08:54 AM) [snapback]69045[/snapback]

My brother works with paedophiles as part of his job - I'm afraid he finds them, to a man, disgusting human beings. I'm not sure if this flies in the face of the "born that way, not their fault" thing, but I am always surprised when I hear him talk about his charges.

ps. I have deleted the reply to StrongBad as I see he kind of retracted it and said he was drunk.

pps. Having read more about the original topic of the adjustment to the law, I've mellowed somewhat - if these people have been living together for so long, are a proper couple, then yes it is unfair they shouldn't get the same tax breaks and options available to a married couple. However,I still don't agree with them being classed as "married".

I'm not sure in what capacity he deals with them Donga-offending 'paedos' by their very leper like existence in society often have difficulty in developing rapport with 'normal' people, and come over as 'disgusting'.

I imagine though, that there must be a time in any paedophile's life, when suitable therapy-if available and accepted- could produce some kind of acceptance by society.

What I'm trying to say is that the sexual preference and the disgustingness don't inevitably go hand in hand IMO, provided the urge is able to be controlled.
mortonjag 2005-12-10 09:08:41 Delicious icecream-
mortonjag 2005-12-10 09:12:24
QUOTE(se56an @ Dec 10 2005, 04:06 AM) [snapback]69030[/snapback]

According to experts, all men fall into one of three groups.

When we first meet someone of the opposite sex we all do one of the following.

According to experts, all men fall into one of three groups.

Heterosexual, homosexual, and anything else that isn't exactly one of those! dry.gif
PS I have voted by the way se56an-funnily enough, I think a beautiful face is a hell of an asset for any woman, but at heart I'm a 'tit' man.
mortonjag 2005-12-10 09:22:09 Vanilla? or-
mortonjag 2005-12-10 11:41:52
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 10 2005, 10:13 AM) [snapback]69070[/snapback]

Too far you f***ing reptile.

God help you when i find out who you are.

LargsTON will you ever grow up-you're more sensitive than an ingrowing toenail- and you plainly can't take a joke.

Given that you don't know me and probably never will, your threat's pretty laughable.

Assuming it WAS a joke- 'very funny, ha ha'.

If it wasn't you'd better book in for some anger management classes. As I've said to your fellow posters who think they can slag me to their heart's content but don't like the rejoinders-'If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen'. smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-10 11:50:45
QUOTE(Julie-Anne @ Dec 10 2005, 11:44 AM) [snapback]69137[/snapback]

What!?! laugh.gif

That's what the man said-obviously can't stand for some people JA! huh.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-10 11:57:24
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Dec 10 2005, 10:15 AM) [snapback]69074[/snapback]

I know him, hes from Partick, drives a Jag and has a private number plate and probably votes Tory.

laugh.gif laugh.gif

Used to live there-used to drive a Jag-never voted Tory in my life-private plate's now on my MG, but mortonMG doesn't sound as good.

Monkey prefers it mind you, but maybe that's too many 'give aways', and Bob'll trash it outside Scapa!
mortonjag 2005-12-10 12:10:12
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 9 2005, 10:03 PM) [snapback]68822[/snapback]

mad.gif rolleyes.gif

Never seen the word "ignorami" used before.

Very good.

But 'deary me, you knew all along what it meant-just never thought you'd see it on a football forum'!

'Aye-right'-where have you seen it used Knowall-you are f*cking unbelievable LargsTON-you must be a nightmare to live with-have you ever considered the possibility that you could be wrong about something-it's not that hard to admit it.

If you want to take the rip out of me, get your facts right first! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-10 12:25:18
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Dec 10 2005, 08:37 AM) [snapback]69041[/snapback]

It's ok Mortonjag - it was just his online persona.

Are you telling me Soupy Fanny's a MAN, or referring to se56an Donga.

His/her (not se56an's) on line personna doesn't bother me in the slightest when it's confined to joking.

I just thought that he/she was coming on a bit heavy suggesting that I was suppressing the gay community.

I know this is an unofficial site, and I enjoy the slagging, probably more than most, but we do have a lot of sensible debate too.

I really don't see why nach0 can close a thread because he totally misunderstood where I was coming from and took it personally, but allow this total (and clearly not jocular) misrepresentation of my opinions to go unchecked.
mortonjag 2005-12-10 12:34:15
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Dec 10 2005, 12:15 PM) [snapback]69181[/snapback]

You two wanna get a fckin room? We all have an occasional fall out but it's usually on one thread. You're ruining the messageboard.

Why?

Surely our mutual slagging is a wee bit more erudite that the usual spamming 'Fud/fanny/prick' stuff.

As long as Bob still wants to put his oversized, underfilled head on the block, he's welcome to my chopper! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-10 12:59:34
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Dec 10 2005, 12:36 PM) [snapback]69205[/snapback]

No, actually, at least fud/fanny/prick is one wee word, you can skip by.

Any good points about a topic you may have hidden somewhere in your slag-fest, if any, are getting ignored or lost, I'd wager, as people will be skipping your posts and skipping the actual thread as a result of it.

Long-winded, indulgent name calling!

Rubbish Donga-and what makes you think you are self appointed champion of what's right on the board?

I've had, and continue to have plenty of intelligent and interesting debate with several posters on a variety of topics, several of which I've started myself.

You and I, for example, have frequently put in our tuppenceworth on different issues.

For some reason LargsTON objects to the fact that I am informed on certain issues because of my experience and training. I don't think that makes me any better than him, and he's entitled to state his opinions.

What angers me is that he doesn't seem to know when he IS only stating an opinion, and is happy to make a complete fool of himself by contradicting proven fact.

You can check as many of my posts as you like Donga-I always make it clear whether I'm just voicing opinion, or stating incontrovertible fact.

As I indicated earlier, we have a lot of intelligent and informative debate on this board-we also have lots of fun and nonsense. It's the posters who are incapable of differentiating the one from the other who are 'spoiling things'-IMO! mad.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-10 13:40:13
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 10 2005, 01:06 PM) [snapback]69227[/snapback]

Donga's correct, jag.

I've been posting on this board and Eddies before it for the best part of four years and for the first time i'm becoming totally scunnered with it. Not due to yourself but it seems impossible to get through an hour without arguing with some c*** about any random s***e - USUALLY you.

If our slag fest is tiresome to me then God knows what it's like for everyone else.

Shouldn't you be at the game anyway?

unsure.gif

Bob I'm heading off-just down the motorway for me-sorry you can't make it.

It's quite obvious we're never going to see eye to eye and I'm happy to call it quits if you are. smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-12 09:04:30
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 11 2005, 11:29 AM) [snapback]69722[/snapback]

There might be more injuries after that game. Jim McAllister took a really sore one in the first half and thats the type that can flare up after the game when the leg is relaxed. McGurn might be out for a few weeks. Lilley is suspended.

Whilst the league is our priority, its also fair to say that we are unlikely not to make at least a play off spot whereas winning the league is a very long shot.

I feel for Dougie because the cup was the only chance of boosting the finances. Peterhead, for example, have been handed a £200k bonus getting Rangers at Ibrox. That would have wiped out our loss for the year. For them, it might give them the chance to keep players they might have lost and maybe even strengthen in the window.

Life's not fair!

I agree with you on the financial aspect, but am more upbeat otherwise.

That game was coming-we're still not consistent enough, but we picked up well after the Stirling debacle, and Saturday wasn't quite as bad as that IMO.

My one big concern is Gonet-he just doesn't seem to have any presence.

Mind you David McGurn was very nervous in his debut for us, as was Gordon (of Hearts) in his first Hampden game.
mortonjag 2005-12-12 09:09:04 From where I was sitting it looked as though Jim McInally was mouthing off at the Ref nearly as much after that incident as Andy-which really surprised me-either he can't see past McLaren, or there was more to it than met the eye.
mortonjag 2005-12-12 09:21:13
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 10 2005, 02:06 PM) [snapback]69263[/snapback]

I read somewhere that taking some painkillers (not all types - for example I think aspirin is OK) with/after/before alcohol can accentuate liver damage. Not sure how true that is.

Safest 'over the counter' one would probably be iboprofen-though it doesn't suit everybody-(for example asthmatics), so as they say-always read the label - if your vision's not too blurred!

Neither aspirin (which can add to the irritant effect of alcohol on the gastric lining), nor paracetamol (which can damage the liver) is advised.

The only real 'cure' for a hangover is alcohol-life IS a bitch! sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-12 09:27:28
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Dec 10 2005, 12:29 PM) [snapback]69193[/snapback]

Did you actually think that Super Nanny was a female?

Donga, given my dislike for the said cockaleekie c*nt, it will probably appear sexist and naive but YES-I never questioned 'her' credentials.

Guess it goes back to my talking about 'her' employment status, and questioning 'her' mental health, when the heated response seemed just TOO real.

If I've been the victim of an evil male 'wind-up'-full marks to the'winder-upper'! cool.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-12 09:31:31
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 10 2005, 09:19 PM) [snapback]69507[/snapback]

I check out her ability to make toast.
smile.gif smile.gif

By giving her a grilling?
mortonjag 2005-12-12 09:33:50
QUOTE(piehutt @ Dec 11 2005, 10:21 PM) [snapback]70091[/snapback]

Its a fair comment when you see a foxy lady from the rear. 'Nice arse, but hows the coupon?'

Must have an acceptable face or a cracking body is just a waste.

Unless you're Mr B***kett
mortonjag 2005-12-12 09:37:27 NewTon-you can still even buy CHRISTmas trees here, you'll be glad to know, and dare I say that where I live in Glasgow they are mainly retailed by gentlemen of the Asian persuasion!
mortonjag 2005-12-12 09:53:54
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 12 2005, 09:14 AM) [snapback]70139[/snapback]

Agree with Doddie

Bob, it hurts me to agree with you-but I do!!! smile.gif

Well I think I do, but if Kev's fit I'd put him in goal-and I'm NOT joking mad.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-12 10:36:01 We were sitting in the stand just above the tunnel. I couldn't possibly comment on the incident-it was too far away, but Jason's face said it all.

No way was that the expression of a 'naughty boy' having been cought out. He was actually crying in frustration-tears all over his face.

I would say, having watched Jason many times now, that his agressive running inside the box is inevitably going to result in penalties. He is NOT, in my assessment, a diver.

Let's face it, some refs can be conned by clever actors, but it took a real dunderhead to miss a 'stonewaller', just because of the way he went down.
mortonjag 2005-12-12 10:56:17 My ex-father in law said 'Never break your heart over losing a woman-they're like buses-another'll be along in a minute.

Obviously knew his daughter better than me sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-12 11:04:58 We were wakened up by loud banging noises outside our flat in the Southside of Glasgow. Then we saw three polis vans driving off! smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-14 07:44:43
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Dec 12 2005, 11:19 AM) [snapback]70161[/snapback]

POOF! rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2005-12-14 08:03:26 I'm convinced this is all a storm in a teacup.

Andy knows that at the moment, the last thing he really wants is to be out of football. It's where he is most comfortable and able to stay focussed on a clean and sober life.

I'm not surprised at his reaction on Saturday, AND in the press. It's one thing if 20,000 anonymous fans are abusing you. It's very different when you run up to the touchline to get the ball at one of the wee grounds, and some idiot's right in your face with it. It must be very, very difficult to stay cool.

Once he's had time to reflect, Andy will get on with his life. He's far bigger than those scum.
mortonjag 2005-12-14 09:10:40 Seems to me like we're all 'clutching at straws' here.

The whole Gretna scenario makes me sick, and I have predicted for some time that Mileson's long term plans will come to nothing, but let's get real guys-even if they've got an unproven 'mouth' for a manager- money talks.
mortonjag 2005-12-14 09:17:12 I was driving through the city yesterday, and passed a big local health centre.
The sun was shining, and three staff in uniform were leaning against the wall having a 'fag'. Behind them the sign stated 'Well man clinic'!
mortonjag 2005-12-14 09:49:51
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 14 2005, 03:39 AM) [snapback]70913[/snapback]

Christmas trees are out.

Please try to be politically correect.

Please think of the poor Muslims and Jews and Hindus and Midden supporters etc who read these boards.

Show some consideration.

sad.gif sad.gif

I have given your post consideration NewTon, -F*CK the Midden supporters! cool.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-14 09:52:43
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Dec 12 2005, 09:42 PM) [snapback]70437[/snapback]

Could be an allergic reaction to dust or animals.....

Yes-JA was seen talking to Ayr supporters on Saturday!
mortonjag 2005-12-14 10:46:58
QUOTE(rfc no surrendor @ Dec 13 2005, 09:20 PM) [snapback]70847[/snapback]

im no biggot, i have no opinion where religion comes and not racist in any way

Was that a quote you stole from the Rangers' chairman mate-if so you could do him the credit of spelling it properly-oh-and this 'Masters' degree-care to venture where you qualified.

If an illiterate git like you can boast qualifications in aeronautical engineering, I'm sending my Monkey to Law school for a second degree.

If you're that interested in the TON and live locally, you don't need to infect our web site. Get your arse into Scapa. mad.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-14 10:54:03
QUOTE(defraton @ Dec 14 2005, 10:48 AM) [snapback]70968[/snapback]

spoke to andy at petrol station....
This is mince....
is staying and thats that
Registered just to let you guys know

Thanks for that-no surprise to me.

Why do you call your self 'Deaf rat' by the way?
mortonjag 2005-12-14 11:06:48 Just thinking about this, and might be a bit of fun.

As a novelty present, how about a set of adjustable stepladders for Temps.

A vanity set for wee Chris. etc., etc. smile.gif

mortonjag 2005-12-14 11:15:01
QUOTE(defraton @ Dec 14 2005, 11:00 AM) [snapback]70972[/snapback]

its actually....defra ton..... its where i work defra

What's defra?-certainly a good one for that wee 'surrendor' fanny.

Don't Ever Favour Rangers Again (on our web site).
mortonjag 2005-12-14 11:18:43 Toupee for wee Kenny McLean
mortonjag 2005-12-14 11:22:27 Andy, those scum who eyeball you and wind you up, would be scared to come near you outside the safety of the stadium.

Try to smile at the b*stards-that'll sicken them more than anything else.
mortonjag 2005-12-14 11:26:11
QUOTE(defraton @ Dec 14 2005, 11:19 AM) [snapback]70978[/snapback]

department enviroment food rulral affairs

ohmy.gif

So it's to do with the environment, food, and the countryside-in what way-is it about pesticides, genetic modification etc.?
mortonjag 2005-12-14 11:38:20
QUOTE(Jackie @ Dec 13 2005, 05:53 PM) [snapback]70757[/snapback]

McGurn got his chance to shine when Coyle got injured. Who knows, perhaps Gonet will do exactly the same.

Heres hoping.

Don't suppose there's any harm in healthy competition for the spot. Coyle was a better reflex keeper, and kicked better than McGurn IMO, but Davie has been very solid, and much better in the air, where Craig was a nightmare.

I get the impression that Stefan is a wee bit similar to Coyle-good shot stopper, and quite quick off the line, but I'd worry about high balls becoming a problem again.
mortonjag 2005-12-14 11:47:47 Sorry-bird flu apparently might infect the other site-so I've moved here to thank you!
mortonjag 2005-12-16 07:40:17 A lot of good points on this thread.

I agree that Jose and Andy are like chalk and cheese, and I'm not talking about their skin colour, but racism is so laughably silly and Jose can turn the tables on the morons.

He also knows that if the police or stewards hear anyone calling him a n***er, or whatever, they'll get arrested.

I think it's in this area that the difference lies. In my opinion it's bad enough to abuse a player for his origins, but when some half drunk, or jaked up eejit starts slandering a guy who is doing his best to deal with his addictions, he should be huckled off straight away.

I really don't see what is so difficult about it. There are several charges which could be successfully used if the police really wanted a prosecution, and I'd love to see a test case in court soon.
mortonjag 2005-12-16 07:46:26
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Dec 14 2005, 01:20 PM) [snapback]71014[/snapback]

I think the guy's a regular at the wind up.

If he isn't though then perhaps we could go a bit easier on him? He's apologised, offered to change his username and hasn't been offensive (apart from his name etc rolleyes.gif ).

One last point, I know a lot of very bright people who struggle to spell their own name. Doesn't mean they don't/can't have/get a degree.

Correct, Boozehound, but this one's dyslexic, illiterate, ignorant, a Hun, AND claims to have a masters' degree.

He's either at the wind up, or some bloody college needs wound down! mad.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-16 09:06:34
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Dec 15 2005, 11:29 AM) [snapback]71368[/snapback]

No mate, it was before it, during and after.

I disagree anyway- you cant condone that kind of personal abuse from fellow professionals. I'm sure everyone who works in football knows that Mclaren is a reformed person and spends his spare time going round AA meetings and helping other people through their problems.

- Hardly worthy of the vindictive and personal abuse he was getting.
Also, this was a bit strange, but the abuse Jim McInally was getting from the stand was bizarre. The sh*t they were coming out could have come straight from Ibrox. mad.gif

I always thought Ayr fans were like us and hated everything OF and those Ayrshire folk that were "that way inclined" went to Rugby Park.

Excellent post darling-keep up the good work-when you speak constructively I LOVE YOU! wink.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-16 09:19:42 Peterhead are not a great side this season, and provided we concentrate on our game, we will contain them easily. It's just down to knocking a couple in, and what a chance for big Sanny to get back on track. Football's such a funny old game-I wouldn't be surprised if he bagged a 'hat trick'!
mortonjag 2005-12-16 09:54:35
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Dec 16 2005, 09:45 AM) [snapback]71754[/snapback]

If stuff like this was to happen every couple of weeks? I know what you mean about thinking that they-and players in general-maybe would get used to it, but i don`t think many of them ever will.
Whether it be their race,creed or colour plus, past history exploits( drugs booze) you name it, it aint a pretty day at the office any where when you have to put un with innane bull being spat at you while your doing your job( or even when your on a nite out
If i remeber right, so far to date the worst reaction of a player having abuse torented at him was Eric`kung foo` Cantona, i know it was wrong but it was peachy.
At the end of the day most of these luddites who hurl abuse are themselves utter clowns who have nothing better in life to offer.

Spot on. It's the 'face to face' aspect that makes those guys react. I think Andy could handle an anonymous chant of 'alky', or 'junkie', but I'd like to see how the 'holier than thou' posters would react themselves if some moron was allowed to look them straight in the eye and call them f*ckin' c*nts or similar, from the safety of the terracing.
mortonjag 2005-12-16 10:03:12
QUOTE(midTONs @ Dec 14 2005, 07:51 PM) [snapback]71134[/snapback]

hear here laugh.gif

cum cum
mortonjag 2005-12-16 10:24:58
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Dec 15 2005, 10:37 AM) [snapback]71324[/snapback]

Fife Council in their wisdom have just sent every householder a small ringbinder with pages describing how to split up household waste for re-cycling. Having had the three bins for re-cycling paper/plastic/tin, garden & everything else in operation for some time I can see that they are maybe trying to increase use of the scheme, but why waste money on something that most folk will just toss in the general bin (I can't be bothered ripping the ringbinder bit out) surely a couple of A4 pages saying the same thing would be cheaper and savings spent elsewhere in the community?

Interested to here if Inverclyde or others have followed this lead.

For 'Fife' read 'Any'.

As long as local government in Scotland is led by numbskulls elected by morons this sort of thing will persist.

It's always easy to spend other people's money, and cooncillors and accountability are usually poles apart.
mortonjag 2005-12-16 10:39:24 Unless you adopt a 'designer ghetto' policy for so called 'undesirables', I can't see a solution to the problem on discussion.

I can go right back to my childhood in the Port. The council then had a policy of mixing 'good' and 'bad' families in the new scheme at Bardrainney.

My Mum and Dad were so happy to get their lovely new house with a front and back garden etc. instead of six of us living in a room and kitchen in Argyle St.

That was until we ended up between the McPhees and the Lynches!

It's always the same-I've worked extensively in every area of Glasgow and I know. As soon as you start moving the s*** in, the decent people (those who are lucky enough to manage) move out.

ASBO's are maybe a wee glimmer of hope-I just wish I knew of (an acceptable) answer! mad.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-16 10:58:26
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 15 2005, 06:10 PM) [snapback]71564[/snapback]

you were banned for abusing a skunk, then for abusing me laugh.gif

Banned for abusing a skunk!

He should have been given the freedom of the board for achieving the impossible! smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-16 11:04:48
QUOTE(midTONs @ Dec 16 2005, 10:50 AM) [snapback]71779[/snapback]

ASBO's are a joke as far as this area are concerned, the council don't want to know and the community police are no better when it comes to anti social behaviour.
I challenge any council employee or police officer to prove me wrong, I would be for ever in the debt if they could.

At least they're a move in the right direction Mid TONs, but you're right. We live in such a namby pamby society now, and every form of enforcement is hidebound by rules and red tape.

Frankly I'd just shoot the b*stards-it WOULD solve the problem. sad.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-16 11:17:51 Season 2008-2009 prediction-

Gretna v (get) Real Madrid tongue.gif

mortonjag 2005-12-16 11:19:45
QUOTE(WullTon @ Dec 16 2005, 11:18 AM) [snapback]71793[/snapback]

Ajax v Inter

Persil v Gretna (that's getting REAL)
mortonjag 2005-12-16 11:23:26
QUOTE(steveoath @ Dec 16 2005, 10:29 AM) [snapback]71769[/snapback]

Fortunately none of my kids are Morton supporters so this'll go unnoticed!!

Although, i do see that some of my colleagues are already rated on there :-)

Steve

Steve, who DO your kids support-you're not a very influencial father by the sound of it! smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-16 11:27:16
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 16 2005, 11:21 AM) [snapback]71799[/snapback]

Oh NO

Oh YES -and poor ref- both teams will be playing in white. huh.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-16 11:45:16
QUOTE(Patrick Bateman @ Dec 16 2005, 11:35 AM) [snapback]71805[/snapback]

Could someone please help biggrin.gif

I was trying to figure out how the hell they put the chocolate on a malteser.
When you check the Malteser it's rounded perfectly in the chocolate therefore a machine couldnt have lifted it up and put the chocolate on it, without leaving little marks, as would your fingers if you held it up. huh.gif

Now i have thought of every alternative and i'm stuck ! blink.gif

It's so simple man-just think laterally. They DON'T put chocolate round it-they start with perfectly rounded chocolate balls (!!!!!) smile.gif and using highly developed transfer techniques (not well known in Greenock) insert the centres in a totally atraumatic way.

It's a method that was pioneered by the Chinese, who found it was the best way to put air into ping pong balls.
mortonjag 2005-12-16 11:51:30
QUOTE(midTONs @ Dec 16 2005, 11:30 AM) [snapback]71804[/snapback]

In my experience the council and the police refuse to act on anti social behaviour of any form never mind take the necessary steps to obtain an ASBO against those or the parents responsible. They are quick to shout about their powers in the local papers but not one of them has the balls to use them.

Because we now have a full generation's legacy of meddlesome 'do-goody' social work and similar, and the cops and other enforcement agencies are terrified in case they fall foul of some idiotic 'rights protecting' legislation.

As I said-shoot the b*stards.
mortonjag 2005-12-17 08:45:35
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Dec 16 2005, 01:13 PM) [snapback]71845[/snapback]

They drop the biscuit into the chocolate, then it goes through a machine which smoothes it out.

Not exactly complicated.

rolleyes.gif

Sounds extremely complicated to me. I just sooked the coating off a malteser and dropped the centre in a bowl of melted chocolate-and it floated-not exactly complicated if you know anything about specific gravity.

Disappointed in you ThornTON thought with a name like that you'd know better.

At least the Chinese transference method is feasible! wink.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-17 09:00:35
QUOTE(Mr MOrton @ Dec 16 2005, 01:43 PM) [snapback]71858[/snapback]

You Scumbags have a fecking cheeck.Your official programme refered to Barry as Laveccy,the Cowshed repeatedly gave Junior the monkey chants and now we're all meant to feel sorry for Andy,I'll have a half,McLaren.
Feck him,he deserves everything he gets after your Manky Mobs behaviour in the past.

PS.Ban me for being honest?????

Andy doesn't need anybody to feel sorry for him. All he wants is peace to get on with his life.

To take your example of 'monkey chants'-OK it's pathetic, but it's not 'face to face' stuff-damned sight different if somebody two yards away calls you a 'nigger' to your face, and with current legislation you'd immediately be arrested-but you're 'OK'with Andy getting that kind of stuff.

Mate you should be banned for being THICK. mad.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-17 09:39:26 The only 'JIM' Wilson of any note was 'wee Jimmy Wilson' already mentioned above, and he's in his sixties now.

He played left wing for us at about the time Davie Wilson did for Scotland.

Wee Jimmy was a crowd pleaser with his jinky runs, great crosses, and the occasional McAlister style cut inside and shot at goal. He tormented right backs, and nearly always won, but I well recall his sour wee coupon when they got the better of him!
mortonjag 2005-12-17 09:58:23 I don't normally eat 'sweeties', but I was in the club shop yesterday for my Dumbarton tickets, and out of support for Dougie, (and sheer greed), I bought a bag of his liquorice allsorts.

I've occasionally tasted half pounders before-I remember the wine gums were OK-but Dougie those were a f*cking disgrace-a very, very poor imitation- several misshapen-all sickly sugar, and very little liquorice.

If anybody says in his defence, 'You only get what you pay for' I'll reply, 'That's why we're still in the second division.
mortonjag 2005-12-19 11:25:12 While I agree with all that's been said, the honest truth is that it's the Gretna situation that's really hurting us.

I find it extremely ironic that the 'playoffs' were presumably introduced not so much to help the lower leagues but to financially boost the first division, given what happened to us before.

Now that Gretna have effectively bought promotion, the possibility is that somebody like Forfar, Ayr, or even Stirling could scrape through, leaving Partick and ourselves still languishing.

It's become a HELL of a long season-losing at Peterhead seems to have meant very little because nobody (yet) sees us out of those ridiculous playoffs.
mortonjag 2005-12-19 11:35:08
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 17 2005, 08:11 PM) [snapback]72501[/snapback]

Not taking away anything from Peterhead today, but the does the fact that we had our 3 most experinced guys out of the starting 11 today show that we simply do not currently have much depth to cover for such issue. The starting 11 were all 25 and under, clearly as Brechin and Gretna have shown experince gets you out this league. That is something that I think now shoul be taken care of.

Bryan, I've been saying for three seasons that we need an experienced midfield 'general'-somebody to coax, cajole, AND kick arse.

Time after time we've blown it against lesser teams because of lack of 'fire in our bellies', and I'm getting sick of it.

Remember the away match at Forfar near the end of last season. If arses had been kicked early enough, we could have taken three points and be in the First Division now.

Sometimes we just don't have enough belief, and you're right about the youngsters I think. We've got a very talented squad, but talent means f*ck all if you don't use it.
mortonjag 2005-12-19 11:46:30 Most people accept that the Broons stayed in Glebe St. (now demolished), which was right opposite the Casualty dept. at Glasgow Royal Infirmary.

Dundee does not have a 'Glebe St.' so there's no argument there.

DC Thompson the publishers were always based in Dundee, but their papers sold widely throughout Scotland, particularly in Glasgow and the West.

Mind you, you'd have to ask the original creator-I guess in his mind Glebe St. could have been anywhere.
mortonjag 2005-12-19 11:51:16 I'd demolish the 'new' Gourock Ropeworks enterprise, before they can bang on the inflated prices, and if I found any old ropes lying around I'd string up the planners and architects.
mortonjag 2005-12-19 11:57:30
QUOTE(Patg @ Dec 18 2005, 10:17 PM) [snapback]73093[/snapback]

Bring back Tonasarius A cat is a s*** mascot ....
Pat G (Retired Mascot )

I don't think a cat HAS to be a sh*te mascot-but Cappie's a lazy overfed fur ball who obviously spends too much time in front of the fire.

I said earlier in the season I thought he/she/it was on valium or something.

We need someone like 'Animal' from the Muppets!
mortonjag 2005-12-19 12:17:25
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Dec 19 2005, 11:56 AM) [snapback]73303[/snapback]

Being able to keep a small squad happy is a lot on nonsense, and I think we all knew it when it was said at the start of the season. We basically have about 12 guys that I personally would be happy to see anywhere near the first team. If a few of them get injured/suspended we're forced to bring in guys that simply aren't good enough... and results suffer.

It's fine having a squad of 18 if they are all good enough players, but in reality Morton are operating with a squad of about 12 first team players, which is useless really. Even if one of the regulars is off form, we're basically forced to play them, because we've got nobody decent to replace them.

We're about 3 quality players short of a good small squad.

If you've got the money like Gretna-sure-but Dougie hasn't.

I disagree that we don't have enough talent, it's been said often this season that when we're on song we're as good as anybody.

Look at Stranraer last season-how many 'quality' players did they have?

I'm not blaming anybody in particular, but how often have you been frustrated by the TON this season, not playing particularly badly, and looking as though they EXPECT goals to come-- but with no idea from where.

We just need some f*cking drive IMO.
mortonjag 2005-12-19 12:35:11
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Dec 19 2005, 12:06 PM) [snapback]73310[/snapback]

He's deid!

So there's probably not much point in asking him!

I spent a lot of time in the Glebe St area of Glasgow in the sixties, and there was no doubt then that the Broons lived 'across the road', but I agree, they never came across as a Glasgow family with the accents and expressions they used.
mortonjag 2005-12-19 12:41:16 My dad, who's in his mid eighties says it was the Garvel Park.
mortonjag 2005-12-19 12:49:39
QUOTE(hugo_swire @ Dec 19 2005, 06:35 AM) [snapback]73225[/snapback]

i dont seem to recall such outrage at cappielow when barry lavety was subjected to 90 minutes of similar abuse.

I don't know anything about Barry Lavety, but I DO know that Andy is a recovering alcoholic and drug addict who works tirelessly behind the scenes to help people with their addictions.

I don't think ANYBODY should be subjected to this kind of abuse, but I can see why for McLaren, it is particularly hurtful.
mortonjag 2005-12-19 12:57:52
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 18 2005, 11:43 AM) [snapback]72673[/snapback]

We were ripped up for arse paper down the left wing time and again.

Kev's defensive atributes were missed badly yesterday and I always said it would take him to miss a game or two until we realised his value to the team.

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Sorry, mortonjag but it's true.

I've left it for 24 hours to see if anybody agreed or otherwise, and you don't need to apologise Bob!

I don't dislike Kev, and when the chips are down, (as I've consistently said), he's a tremendous asset in our half of the field-AND he never gives up.

It's 'horses for courses', IMO.

He's still a 'waste of space' in attack though!
mortonjag 2005-12-19 13:22:41
QUOTE(standman @ Dec 18 2005, 08:58 PM) [snapback]73035[/snapback]

I'm totally against this.

Teams like Brechin and Stranraer would be left out in the cold.

Although they are small teams they have totally earned their first division status by playing their way there.

That's the way it should be in my opinion.

I certainly agree in principle, but it's a sad historical fact that only clubs with a decent fanbase (and income) survive in the higher leagues.

I'm sorry, but although I sympathise with the 'have nots'-look at poor Brechin after their runaway last season-I just can't wait to get out of this scummy second division-getting gubbed on a cold Saturday in front of a couple of hundred fishermen and prison warders is a waste of hard earned cash IMO.
mortonjag 2005-12-19 13:33:11
QUOTE(se56an @ Dec 18 2005, 12:01 PM) [snapback]72702[/snapback]

Excactly...

Jason upfront with Temps instead of Adam in midfield

There would be nothing wrong with trying them together up front-I've seen them for the reserves and they have a good understanding.

Temps is always holding the ball up looking for somebody running into space, and despite what some say, Jason can score goals.
mortonjag 2005-12-20 09:27:25 It's the sheer strength in depth of the Gretna squad, and Mileson's ability to make new signings that make this an impossible hill to climb.

In a normal league situation they would not be unassailable (look at the lead we had at exactly this time two seasons ago), but they are just too strong.

I believe they will drop points-Dumbarton nearly did it on Saturday- but I just can't see them going on a downward slide.

The only way we could beat them is by winning every, or almost every game from now on, and we're just not that consistent.
mortonjag 2005-12-20 09:42:45
QUOTE(BubbaTON @ Dec 18 2005, 02:35 PM) [snapback]72798[/snapback]

have to say, i think Jason has been tried and has proved to be an ineffective footballer. The classic "flatters to deceive". His touch is terrible as is his distribution and when he gets the chance his finish isn't brilliant.

He CAN be an effective sub to run at tired legs but other than that he provides no value to the team imo.

Jason has actually scored two or three cracking goals for us, and has won us (arguably), two penalties in two games.

Sure, he is a bit 'rough around the edges', but the truth is he has NOT been tried-the boy has always been seen as a 'sub'.

I think he's the kind of player who would thrive on success, and if he was given a decent run might very well start scoring.

Just wait and see-if it doesn't happen here, he'll probably end up like Alex Williams, and start knocking them in elsewhere.
mortonjag 2005-12-20 09:49:26
QUOTE(deego @ Dec 19 2005, 10:14 PM) [snapback]73640[/snapback]

I meant Paul.

Spot on son-one of your better posts-that would be a real mean machine!
mortonjag 2005-12-20 10:04:39
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Dec 19 2005, 05:45 PM) [snapback]73503[/snapback]

won't be there for much longer anyway. think how many weegies could be squeezed inside a lovely yuppie apartment block, with plenty of room left over for the security guards, guard dogs and electric fences to keep the locals out.

Interesting point-are the 'Weegies' in fact buying property in Inverclyde-if they are that's great-not only will they be spending their cash down the river, but some might even end up supporting a decent football club! smile.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-20 10:09:56
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 19 2005, 07:36 PM) [snapback]73563[/snapback]

Nice to see things haven't changed.

Having to sit Higher German in a f***ing Home Ec room was really the final nail in the Coffin of Resentment as far as that pit of a school went.
Good point. It's almost Stalinist in the way that it's stark, monotone and dominates every building around it.

Just stick a huge mural of David Cairns standing purposely next to an open-cast coal mine on it and we have a New Labour propaganda building ready to go. (Just try to ignore the fact that everything inside is closing down.)

Or you could fill it with all the local 'neighbours from hell', and pray for a very selective tornado.
mortonjag 2005-12-20 10:16:44
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Dec 20 2005, 09:19 AM) [snapback]73752[/snapback]

Well done all involved!!

There is definately something in the air as that's the 5th baby I've heard about in the last 4 weeks.

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At that rate Scot we're not exactly going to have a population explosion!

Congrats to WIG wink.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-20 10:33:41
QUOTE(jpmil @ Dec 20 2005, 10:02 AM) [snapback]73765[/snapback]

As a confirmed pessamist (I find that it helps me not to be disappointed very often) but although I applaud your optimism I think your aspirations for Morton are totally unrealistic. The simple fact is that Gretna will l contine to distance itself from the pursuers. Unless additional players are brought in to the club we should (hopefully) finish in the top 4 and be faced with living on a knife edge during the dreaded playoffs.
We have some excellent players at the club but what we don't have is someone with vision and command. We continualy struggle to finish teams off after going ahead and when we go behind you know in your heart and soul that the best we are going to get is a draw. Having seen many Morton "promotion" teams I think that we need to strengthen ASAP.
I'm afraid that I don't agree with McInally that "he" has all the players that he needs but then again it isn't my job that's on the line.
On a totally different matter could anybody explain to me why at the end of last season Kenny McLean was retained (unexpectedly IMO) but has yet to make and appearance on the park (once on the bench I think)?

Kenny is one of the few players in the squad who can genuinely play on the wing. He is fast and nippy, and packs a good shot. I presume Jim McInally saw/sees a future for him at Cappielow.

He's been slower to mature than some of the youngsters, but don't forget Jim McAlister was playing reserve football not so long ago, and Kenny's less than a year older than him.
mortonjag 2005-12-20 11:17:24
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 20 2005, 10:48 AM) [snapback]73777[/snapback]

McLean is currently not the answer to our problems, in a few years maybe.

In a few years he'll be TOTALLY bald Bryan! Give the boy a break-I know he's not CURRENTLY in favour, but a season's a hell of a long time in football! wink.gif
mortonjag 2005-12-20 11:39:58
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Dec 19 2005, 11:19 PM) [snapback]73691[/snapback]

UVA and UVC, why couldn't you have said that?

So one causes skin cancer on its own, the other encourages the carcinogenic effects of UVB.

Lovely!

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I assume that you taken this into account? Photocatalytic oxidation is in my notes, tbh I've only glanced at them...

However, its hardly a new thing in purification systems... so I'm wondering how well you'll be able to compete with the companies in this country selling similar products.

Yes ThornTon-we all know the sun causes skin cancer-big f*cking deal.
Human jobbies cause potentially carcinogenic DNA mutations in mice-AND things like typhoid, and cholera! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-01-30 15:44:51
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jan 10 2006, 04:52 PM) [snapback]82762[/snapback]

He's vanished since our truce.

Must've got too boring for him.

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Sorry to disappoint you Bob-the computer's not been too well, but seems better now-I've been missing the fun-and I'm back to my mischief !!! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-01-30 16:02:05
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jan 30 2006, 03:50 PM) [snapback]91473[/snapback]

Oh ffs! laugh.gif

I've actually enjoyed it on here again lately.

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Well-all good things come to an end! wink.gif

What did you think of Kev's performance on Saturday by the way-one of the better in a bad lot if you ask me.
mortonjag 2006-01-30 16:14:04 McInally is quoted in today's paper as saying that Weatherson's 'touch and finish are basically what he's all about'.

The guy is among the top scorers in the division, and still gets stuck in defence-how f*cking stupid can the manager be, or are things about to change?
mortonjag 2006-01-30 16:19:58
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jan 30 2006, 04:10 PM) [snapback]91482[/snapback]

Bust a gut covering the right side of the park himself in the second half and was always looking to get forward.

Final ball still lacking but was more direct than usual.

Sometime wish he'd have a bit more belief in himself as he's got the pace to go by most full backs.

As for the rest of the midfield.... dry.gif

For once I agree, Walker was dire, and Chris Millar did very little. At least John Adam almost scored. We definitely missed McLaren, AND McLaughlin.
mortonjag 2006-01-31 15:53:03 They have totally contrasting styles, and it depends what you need in the squad. McPake is obviously a 'hustler', and given the powder puff nature of our forwards this season, could be an asset, though I'd rather see Spoonsy where he belongs.

We never got the best of big Temps-he just couldn't play to our style or vice versa, but he proved his quality beyond any doubt at Brechin, and good luck to him.
mortonjag 2006-01-31 16:14:55 Templeman was top scorer and knocking them in for fun at Brechin, and something clearly went wrong here-any chance that Tonsilitis might just be right?

Chris Millar, in terms of productivity, has done more than any other player except Andy McLaren this season IMO, and I agree that he probably would be more comfortable wide of midfield (as a wing back if you like).

McAlister is brilliant going forward, but can't hold the ball up-McLaughlin is strong man to man and sees openings early, but isn't that creative-Walker, on form, is very good attacking through the middle, etc., etc., -so WHAT constitutes our 'best midfielder'.

The truth is that Millar is a talented young player who irritates some myopics because he doesn't tackle like Roy Keane, and Tonsilitis is right-if you want the best for the Ton-lay off!
mortonjag 2006-02-02 19:56:18 I can't understand anyone wanting to replace McGurn with Gonet.

Sure, the young lad had a couple of excellent reflex saves against Gretna, but his inexperience and lack of confidence stick out a mile, and in the air he's another Craig Coyle.
mortonjag 2006-02-04 13:45:22
QUOTE(Bjarne Jensen @ Feb 4 2006, 09:13 AM) [snapback]93686[/snapback]

Hal Stewart a legend - don't make me bloody laugh. Anyone over the age of 40, all know he was a shyster, who sold every decent team we ever had. Thats why we are up and down the leagues like a bloody yoyo. (the reason Greenock Juniors were started was because of the crook)

People that think we had a great teams because of a chairman, are off their heads. It is down to the manager and the players he builds as a team.

Correction-we weren't up and down the leagues with Hal, and he MADE money for the club-sure he was shrewd and a wee bit naughty at times but our yoyo behaviour came later because others did NOT have his acumen.
mortonjag 2006-02-07 09:25:00 I really can't understand what all the fuss is about. Does anybody believe that Rae hadn't already put the points mentioned to big Chris in person before he left?

The facts are that he came to us highly recommended, and with an excellent record, he got a handsome signing-on fee and excellent salary package, and he didn't produce.

I could go on all day about why that happened, and I admired and often felt sorry for the big guy, but Dougie shelled out a fortune and got no return-so stop slagging him for his honesty.
mortonjag 2006-02-07 10:30:50 As I see it we were utterly clueless against Ayr, and not much better on Saturday.

I've always said that-bar Gre£na-we have the most talented squad in the division, but there's no point in having talent if it's not used properly.

When McInally came at first I criticised him for being too cautious-he rarely changed anything, and wouldn't bring subs on 'til the last minute, but the tables have turned.

Hopefully he feels comfortable about the playoffs and IS just experimenting to find the right blend, but it's painful to watch and pay for.
mortonjag 2006-02-07 10:45:44 Alex Walker's confidence and form have certainly dipped-no wonder when he gets stuck at right back-he was dire there against Ayr.

We DO have talented midfielders-bear in mind this is the second division-but my one thought would be to convert Kev Finlayson into a proper right back-he's got all the qualities for that position, and could still move forward when needed. At the moment he's seen as a midfielder, and although he can definitely play there, he is NOT productive.
mortonjag 2006-02-07 11:01:55
McGurn



Finlayson Harding Greacen McGregor


Millar Weatherson McLaughlin McAlister


McLaren Lilley




On form, I think that's our best line up, and it keeps Kev in the team.

My subs would be Gonet, Adam, A Walker, and McPake
mortonjag 2006-02-07 11:16:59 We don't have a natural 'leader' in the squad-somebody that can take a game 'by the scruff of the neck', and get the others motivated-I've been saying it for three seasons-and what do we get-ANOTHER young striker.

It's not enough to give 110% yourself (take Kev for example, or McAlister)-leadership is about presence, confidence, determination, and most of all, the ability to gee the team up. Just ONE guy like that in midfield would make a HELL of a difference IMO.
mortonjag 2006-02-07 11:23:03
QUOTE(RankinBorn75 @ Feb 7 2006, 11:08 AM) [snapback]94937[/snapback]

Did Dougie sheel out for him ? Or Did Greenock Morton FC shell out for him ?
Dougie did a lot to save our club ..correct .. did the rest of us stand there with our hands in our pockets saying Ach well it was good while it lasted ???

Nonsense

Are you suggesting that GMFC is in the black at the moment-that income exceeds outlays-my take is that we don't yet break even, and that Dougie makes up the difference-hopefully in Division One that will change.
mortonjag 2006-02-07 11:30:25
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 5 2006, 01:03 AM) [snapback]94035[/snapback]

I'd go so far as saying it could ultimately lead to defeat in the play offs.

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Exactly-we need somebody in the 'boiler house' with a bit of experience and a genuine will to win-doesn't have to be that brilliant either, but good at 'kicking arse' when it's needed.
mortonjag 2006-02-07 11:47:06 If you want those stupid ratings to make any sense, you would have to average them over five or six games IMO. I sometimes wonder if the scorers have watched the same game as me.

On the Chris Millar issue, he's been sadly off form for two or three weeks, but it happens to everybody, and he'll be back.

You can say whatever you like about that boy, but he is a natural, and when he finds his feet he'll probably move to bigger and better things where his talent will be appreciated and used to advantage.
mortonjag 2006-02-07 12:14:31
QUOTE(tonlad @ Feb 7 2006, 12:09 PM) [snapback]94969[/snapback]

There is being honest and there is being proffesional, people moan when fans give players a hard time so why should the chairman come out and say this, the guy could be back playing for us next season.

lost alot of respect for Dougie over that

I couldn't agree more IF he only said it after Sanny had left.

My point is that Chris would probably have been well aware of Rae's opinion before he decided to go, and the Chairman is perfectly entitled to make factual statements-or statements of opinion for that matter- in a match programme.
mortonjag 2006-02-07 12:21:45 I doubt if he's got the type of injury which will keep him out, though agree he wasn't fully fit.

For me, the trouble is that young Gonet is very inexperienced, lacks confidence, and is almost as bad as Craig Coyle in the air (and at least Coyle could kick).

If McGurn is out again, we'll be put in the same situation as Stirling were in earlier in the season-God forbid!
mortonjag 2006-02-07 12:26:59
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Feb 7 2006, 12:24 PM) [snapback]94979[/snapback]

Use www.soccerbase.com to show your first Morton game. If you're first game was a friendly, use the first competitive match.

My first game HERE

OK, so I'm bored in college and have nothing else better to do!!

Are you an ageist Iain-mine was at Scapa in the old second division in 1959!!!
mortonjag 2006-02-07 12:35:53 IMO the best thing that can happen to us is for Gre£na to sail through to the final, with all its hype and glitz, and then get absolutely tanned by Hearts or Hibs-with two sent off, several injuries, and Alexander making an appointment for his Psychologist (BUPA of course courtesy of you know who) ! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-02-07 12:57:03
QUOTE(Cet homme charmant @ Feb 4 2006, 07:15 PM) [snapback]93910[/snapback]

Don't disagree with that, if they're foreign nationals boot them out.

Only problem is, if they were born in Britain then they're British citizens, so where would you send them to? That would be like saying you should deport Nick Griffin because he stirs up racial hatred. It's not that simple, unfortunately.

Anyway the point is they don't represent mainstream British muslim opinion. I hope you can now see and accept that.

And 'mainstream British muslim opinion' IS?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting that your average British Muslim condones violence, but he does stand out a mile from the other 'ethnic minorities', in the propagation of, and belief in the exclusive rectitude of his religion.
mortonjag 2006-02-11 10:04:27 We've looked very ordinary in the last two weeks, especially against Ayr, but the boys have a score to settle at Firhill, after our mugging there a few months ago.

Andy Mclaren got a particularly rough time and hopefully he'll be 'up for it'.

I know one man doesn't make a team, but I've a wee premonition he might just be MOTM, in a Ton victory.
mortonjag 2006-02-11 10:16:33 We should forget the maths and concentrate on today.

Mathers had an outstanding game last week, and the Blue Toon made us look worse than we really are.

Gretna have come off a tough one against Clyde and with the replay in hand may not be fully focussed on this one.

Here's hoping-oh, and if we DON'T beat Thistle, I for one will be asking questions of Jim's experience-great guy, and great coach, but last time at Firhill, Baldy Campbell rubbed his nose in it-c'mon Jim-prove yourself please.
mortonjag 2006-02-11 10:33:15 Blair has enjoyed 'dyed in the wool' Scottish Labour support for too long, but even the unthinking seem to have rumbled him now, with a nice wee kick up his Chancellor buddy's arse.

Why did the Nationalist vote stagnate-hard one-but certainly a very charismatic guy won it, and there obviously was a strong local flavour to the campaign.

Hung parliament looming by the look of it-for better or for worse.

Wonder if smiling boy knows the chords for 'Who's sorry now'?
mortonjag 2006-02-11 10:53:15 This isn't just about the playoffs-we are just about to face two of the hardest games of the season against Partick and Stirling.

If we win both of those, I guarantee a 3500 plus crowd for our next match at Scapa (against Forfar) irrespective of what Gre£na do.
mortonjag 2006-02-13 13:30:29 What would we gain by dropping him-that's just shooting ourselves in the foot.

I think Jim made a courageous decision on Saturday, and there's no reason why he can't do it again-AND again if necessary.

Let's face it, if he's dropped he might react in several different ways-the best being to decide to take his medicine and get on with the next game-but there's no guarantee of that.

Jim should simply say-'Andy get on and keep your trap shut-if not you'll be replaced-in this- and in every game'.
mortonjag 2006-02-13 14:06:10 The refs always seem to get it in the neck-and yes, they deserve it. The quality of lower grade officialdom in Scotland is extremely poor, and if they were in most other professions, they would be reported to a governing body, but it seems to me they are pretty much a closed shop.

Having said all that, paying peanuts does tend to attract monkeys. Can anybody enlighten me for example as to how much Fyfe pocketed after the fiasco at Dumbarton last Autumn?
mortonjag 2006-02-13 14:10:18
QUOTE(Graeme @ Feb 13 2006, 02:07 PM) [snapback]97539[/snapback]

I doubt he will be recalled, there will most likely be a stipulation in loan deal he can't be recalled or we may have a stipulation templeman mst come back should McPake go.

Maybe we could bring Lambert in as the Midfield general biggrin.gif

If the guy could still get back to full fitness, we COULD do worse IMO-we certainly need one badly.
mortonjag 2006-02-13 14:17:23 Interesting post.

I suspect the better, and hopefully more honest guys WOULD be at least able to explain mistakes-like being unsighted, or genuine mis-identification-but how do you excuse pomposity, over officiousness, petty whistle blowing, and downright incompetence-that lot should be permanently red carded.
mortonjag 2006-02-13 14:29:02
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Feb 13 2006, 11:24 AM) [snapback]97484[/snapback]

Come on, you surely can't expect people to stay seated at a football match? People get excited and stand up, otherwise there would be no point. I agree that perhaps old people or people with injuries i.e. bad back, may struggle to see if people are standing up but then maybe they should be down the front or something? Its bad enough being seated beside people at away games that don't sing! Just a suggestion

So what's the solution-'ALL SEATED' stadia with sectors for the standers, the sitters, and the ones with the itchy arses who piss me off no end as Tonsilitis indicates.

The same thing happens at Hampden-at one match a shower of eejits in front of us only sat down for about 30% of the game-and completely spoiled it for us.

I don't think anybody expects folk to remain seated when their team scores for example, but a wee bit of consideration seems beyond some morons.
mortonjag 2006-02-13 14:38:36 Let the bigot brothers toss a coin. They're getting pretty used to watching wankers anyway!
mortonjag 2006-02-13 14:58:37 What the f*ck's wrong at Scapa. Big Templeman was knocking them in for fun 'til he came here, and now people are finally doubting Kev Finlayson, despite the fact that he was largely to blame for us still being in Div. 2 (when with Stranraer).

Lilley was by no means an immediate success when he came, Mclaughlin was IMO better before he left. McPake has so far flattered to deceive.

Seems to me the players must go home after every game wondering what position they'll be in next.

McInally's been quoted time after time on the forum as wanting a 'small squad', for whatever reason. Fine, but why use them like bloody lottery balls.

I accept that things have changed, but the old successful Hal Stewart days saw the same 11 on the park week in, week out barring injuries.

I don't even pretend to know the answer, but I'm beginning to think that Jim is a damned good coach, and a damned poor planner/tactician.
mortonjag 2006-02-13 15:05:17 Definitely a good idea in principle but I think the game's been messed about enough with new rules, and I'd hate to see it turning into an even bigger stop-start affair-and how many of those bin things would you need if the Ref was Brines or Fyfe?
mortonjag 2006-02-13 15:34:32 Reports like those do no credit to their authors when they are glaringly misleading examples of statistical mince.

Just take a wee step back to common sense-two areas of Greenock in the 'baddies' and only one (Wyndford --a relatively small part of Maryhill, where Jim Duffy and Charlie Nicholas grew up) in Glasgow with it's population of one million. NONE in Edinburgh smile.gif .

We don't need to be told by CLEVER people that the health consciousness in some areas of ALL Scottish towns and cities is dreadful.

Why waste public money on totally meaningless league tables.
mortonjag 2006-02-13 15:48:08
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Feb 13 2006, 03:36 PM) [snapback]97591[/snapback]

I don't know what's worst about the play-offs - the stupid system itself or Bawheid's steadily more insane posts on the subject.

The stupid system itself-but Bawheid-stop worrying, those play-offs will all be like cup finals where form counts for f*ck all, and Gretna might well fail to finish runners up to us rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-02-14 14:38:07 Most of the guys seem to prefer to stand, and they've every right to air that view. The trouble is they are NOT catered for by all seater stadia.

Surely Tonsilitis makes a valid point, and what about all the kids, their Mums, and the smaller folk in the crowd. It's all very well to say that if the row in front stays standing you should do the same if you are average height or above. Unfortunately that's only half the folk that paid for their tickets.
mortonjag 2006-02-14 14:47:05 I disagree that making the job more financially appealing would hurt the lower levels.

Sure it might for a while, but in the end it would (hopefully and with decent management) lead to a more professional service, and encourage recruits.

Take one Old Firm game for example, and imagine how much that costs in global terms, and the central figure, on whom everything pivots is a part timer with a nine to five job!
mortonjag 2006-02-14 15:00:22 Those who want to will always find ways of beating a security system-frankly I see ID cards as a challenge and not a deterrent to the forces they are designed to foil.
mortonjag 2006-02-14 15:07:53
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 13 2006, 04:11 PM) [snapback]97614[/snapback]

this aint meaningless by any stretch of the imagination- its another damning indictment of the union. 22 out of 25 ffs!!!!!!!!!!!! england's population is 10 times ours. the top 25 healthiest areas are in the english home counties dry.gif

why are the home counties so wealthy when scotland has all the natural resources. WE ARE BEING f***ING SHAFTED!!!!!!!
when are scots gonna wake up and vote us out of this ridiculous union?

there are f*** all tangible benefits to scots as part of the uk.

im f***ing raging at this mad.gif

ps there aren't a million people in glasgow. 629,501

I was talking about Greater Glasgow forza, and anyway Greenock's not quite got 629,501.

Anyhow I wasn't suggesting that it's meaningless to highlight the problem-of course it's not - I just don't know where they get the statistics.

I think it's a wee bit naive also to compare poor wee unhealthy Scotland with those rich Sassenach b*stards resplendent in their self satisfied well-being. Go to any of the poorer working class areas down there, and you'd be happy to stay in Greenock IMO.
mortonjag 2006-02-14 15:31:02
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 14 2006, 03:17 PM) [snapback]97955[/snapback]

im well aware that there is many a s***hole down south and im not naive mate.
the fact is, in this survey the bottom 10 s***holes are up here. we all knew this anyway i suppose

I'm not suggesting YOU are naive, but you can only compare like with like, and that's why statistics are so bloody dangerous when misapplied.

For example it is an indisputable fact that the general quality of life in the top quarter of Scotland far exceeds that of its English counterpart AND that the average intelligence of a crowd at Cappielow is higher than that in a 'Special School'--SO F*CKING WHAT? Do you need some highly paid statitician to tell you those things?

Ok I've got a 'bee in my bunnet' about this kind of thing, but I worked in every area of Glasgow for many years, and I could easily quote you seven or eight examples which would make Greenock look desirable. I know it has its bad areas, but that report is, as I said initially, totally useless and misleading.
mortonjag 2006-02-14 15:48:53
QUOTE(hotburrito @ Feb 13 2006, 06:58 PM) [snapback]97686[/snapback]

why? do they actually put still born weans in binbags? huh.gif

Maybe they do in France, but in this country a stillbirth is still officially a birth, and the child has to be formally buried or cremated.

This thread is just another typical example of the puerile sterility of some of our posters minds-perhaps not 'poofs' but certainly not very straight thinking IMO.
mortonjag 2006-02-17 21:22:01 It's strange-after everything seemed 'fixed' last week with Andy returning to the dugout at halftime, we now Have McInally saying in public-'I've sorted that guy'.

What's McInally's agenda here-who is he trying to please-either Andy's had second thoughts and ripped into him, or some other factor-(?Rae) is trying to pull strings. dry.gif
mortonjag 2006-02-17 21:27:57 Psycholocically, Raith have the advantage tomorow-they've got nothing to lose. and a hell of a lot to win. I've been waiting for weeks for Mileson's Monkeys to drop a point. This is a coupon draw banker IMO.
mortonjag 2006-02-17 21:43:59 Listen you guys-I'm at least twice as old as most of you-OK 'One foot in the grave' son,- you cheeky young bastard, but I DO remember being at Hampden against the mighty Rangers in the League Cup Final, with a crowd that wouldn't be allowed anywhere in the world now.

I believe that Greenock and Inverclyde has by far the biggest Scottish fan base outside the REAL cities.
mortonjag 2006-02-17 21:55:11
QUOTE(Phil Ochs @ Feb 16 2006, 10:51 PM) [snapback]99000[/snapback]

I think playing 4-4-2 is not bringing the best out of the team at present. I'd rather play 3-5-2 or 3-4-1-2, with Harding, Weatherson and Greacen forming a back three. Millar and McGregor would be my wing backs. Middle two of Walker and McLaughlin and front two of McPake and Lilley. McLaren would be asked to play a free role. At this time I think McAllister needs a rest and would bring him back if McLaren can't get his act together. Obviously our eye must be focused on securing second spot and trying to get some form going so we can go into them with confidence high. Quite frankly we've been poor recently and McInally has changed tactics too many times. Sometimes four and five times in a single game which is just asking for trouble and brings inconsistancy. Let's get a settled team and performances will improve.

Thank f*** for someone who thinks-I don't necessarily agree with you every selection Phil, but a settled team is mandatory, and McInally ar the moment is 'chopping and changing' in desperation, IMO.
mortonjag 2006-02-17 21:55:54
QUOTE(Phil Ochs @ Feb 16 2006, 10:51 PM) [snapback]99000[/snapback]

I think playing 4-4-2 is not bringing the best out of the team at present. I'd rather play 3-5-2 or 3-4-1-2, with Harding, Weatherson and Greacen forming a back three. Millar and McGregor would be my wing backs. Middle two of Walker and McLaughlin and front two of McPake and Lilley. McLaren would be asked to play a free role. At this time I think McAllister needs a rest and would bring him back if McLaren can't get his act together. Obviously our eye must be focused on securing second spot and trying to get some form going so we can go into them with confidence high. Quite frankly we've been poor recently and McInally has changed tactics too many times. Sometimes four and five times in a single game which is just asking for trouble and brings inconsistancy. Let's get a settled team and performances will improve.

Thank f*** for someone who thinks-I don't necessarily agree with you every selection Phil, but a settled team is mandatory, and McInally ar the moment is 'chopping and changing' in desperation, IMO.
mortonjag 2006-02-18 09:33:08 The frost's not been too hard in Glasgow and there are guys outside here planting wee trees with no bother, but the Stirling ground is pretty exposed-fingers crossed.
mortonjag 2006-02-18 09:42:07 Raith are desperate for points, and Gretna are, IMO, ready for one of those off days-if the Fifers want it enough they can get a point and wipe the smug grin off rich little poor manager's face rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-02-19 22:01:56 For Mileson read Hugh Scott. The guy is using Gretna as a toy to pleasure himself, and when reality hits home and the SPL tell him to f*ck off, he'll move on to some other quasi 'philanthropic' plaything IMO.

I'm not saying the guy is 'bad', but ultimately he's selling the good folks of Gretna down the river.
mortonjag 2006-02-19 22:19:00 Just skimmed over this thread-too long to read but predictable after yesterday's shambles.

The way I see it is this-last season, we were the Gretna of the division and failed to gain promotion because Stranraer and Brechin were managed more effectively.

It's all very well to girn about Gretna this time, but we aren't exactly setting the heather on fire in terms of the other eight.

Sure we've done quite well, but this is the second division, and we have a talented full time squad, a good stadium, and a great fan base. Something's missing-something we saw yesterday from that wee midden Alan Moore-the ability to get the best from available resources.

McInally's a nice guy, but is still learning the ropes. Rae could have done much better.
mortonjag 2006-02-19 22:30:24
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 19 2006, 10:09 PM) [snapback]100280[/snapback]

He is nothing like Hugh Scott.

Scott was in it for his own self interest, and the point I thought I had already made is that Mileson is too.

Of course it's nice to be nice, and the good Gretnaites are enjoying their day in the sun, but without Mileson Gretna are dead in the water, and that's why the guy's behaviour is ultimately selfish in the extreme.
mortonjag 2006-02-19 22:40:44
QUOTE(princessTON @ Feb 18 2006, 09:14 PM) [snapback]99855[/snapback]

it doesnt matter what team we put out, its still gonna be rubbish

With the talent available it really SHOULDN'T matter that much. I'm fed up with the excuses about a small squad etc, etc. That lot just don't seem to want it enough-I bet if they were on the kind of bonus Gretna got for beating Clyde-reportedly £2000 per player-we'd have cuffed Stirling yesterday.

They've got talent, but no belief in themselves at the moment, and fanny about waiting for something to happen, instead of taking the game 'by the scruff of the neck'.

When will the Directors and Management wake up and sign a decent experienced motivator for midfield? mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-02-19 22:48:58
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 19 2006, 10:38 PM) [snapback]100342[/snapback]

I'm probably the only person on here that has actually met Brookes Mileson, and quite frankly Arkleston your poll is quite offensive. You're more of a wank yourself to set up this poll. The guy is a very nice bloke and he is much liked by his employees at Gretna. You're doing Morton supporters in general no favours by your offensive rudeness. Grow up and learn some manners.

How much did nice Mr Mileson pay you for that one Alibi-either you are more naive than I thought, or you are totally 'tongue in cheek'.

It's strange that you criticise ArklesTON's democratic rights on this forum, when in previous posts you've made it clear that Mr Mileson has employed you professionally.

'Wank' may not exactly be euphemistic, but when the guy bequeaths his total earthly belongings to the club, and f*cks off to some monastery, I'll start to believe in his genuine philanthropy.
mortonjag 2006-02-19 22:51:34
QUOTE(1andymclaren @ Feb 19 2006, 10:42 PM) [snapback]100349[/snapback]

Would be a totally different story is Brooks was at the Morton side of things wink.gif

Of course it would-that's what makes it all so ludicrous-Morton HAVE a history of survival in the SPL, even without a Mileson, whereas Gretna IS Mileson and Mileson is Gretna.
mortonjag 2006-02-19 23:00:52
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 19 2006, 10:54 PM) [snapback]100362[/snapback]

I remain undecided. At face value Mileson's motives appear to be genuinely altruistic. Therein lies the problem, an old cynic like me is naturally suspicious of altruistic millionaires. Having said that, I suppose my real problem with him is that he bankrolls the team that will deny Morton promotion. Maybe that's mean spirited of me, but WTF, I'm a Ton fan first and foremost.

Good shout-echoes my sentiments-doesn't matter if he's saint or sinner IMO-he's hurting the TON.
mortonjag 2006-02-20 15:46:25
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 20 2006, 09:51 AM) [snapback]100459[/snapback]

I'm entitled to my opinion and frankly in this instance I think my opinion is a lot more informed than most of the stuff that is posted. Nothing to do with any professional involvement - I'm involved with other clubs and people professionally and when you get to meet people, you form an opinion of them. I met Hugh Scott once, and I formed an opinion of him which was basically correct if perhaps not extreme enough to match the reality.

I'm not criticising Arkleston's democratic rights - I'm suggesting that his manners, or his judgement, or both, are lacking somewhat in this particular matter. Just because Gretna are walking away with our division doesn't make them evil people.

As far as I can see arklesTON made no judgement of any kind, and with impeccable manners invited the good people of this forum to decide. Mr Mileson has come out pretty well so far, but almost 20 think he is a 'Wank'.

I have never been sure whether he is a charlatan or just misguided, but for a very astute businessman to fund a non-event baffles me.

Either he has a hidden agenda, or, as I have stated before, if anything happens to him, Gretna are finished-that to me is ultimately self indulgent in the extreme.
mortonjag 2006-02-20 15:58:51 Raydale is quite a pleasant wee place if the weather's nice-your view from the so called stand is OK, but you sit very low so the perspective's not great, but you're close to the goalmouth action at one end.

Ideally fit yourself with a catheter, as Mr Mileson doesn't think people need a pish at half time (although if you do reach one of his Portaloos, there are clear instructions on where to aim).

Gretna will probably be on a minimum of £2000 per man win bonus, so I just hope to f*ck the beloved Skunks CAN take the piss out of them.
mortonjag 2006-02-20 16:13:14
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 20 2006, 03:36 PM) [snapback]100624[/snapback]

Campbell currently manages a club with a higher budget than ours...

Where are they in the league?

Aye right- just the same as Brechin had a far higher budget than us last season-Dick Campbell has proved himself and McInally has not. We've taken 3 points from our last four matches, and the performances have in general been painful to watch.

What upsets me most is that we do have a talented squad which is not performing, and is getting chopped and changed week in-week out, seemingly in desperation.

I like Jim, and hope he gets us through the play offs, but to suggest that he is experienced in management is a joke IMO.
mortonjag 2006-02-20 16:30:03 I can understand both sides of this argument, and I like Jim, -I had a long pleasant chat with him at Scapa when I was getting my tickets for the Dumbarton game so what I'm going to say kind of hurts, but over the past month when we've been up against other play-off contenders we've been dire.

Plenty of excuses are being made, but facts are facts-those others seem to be maturing-(Stirling are a revelation) as we stagnate.

Hopefully Jim can turn things around, but we're not in a two down, two up season, and he's giving me a severe dose of the skitters right now.
mortonjag 2006-02-21 09:35:51
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Feb 20 2006, 04:55 PM) [snapback]100667[/snapback]

I am very concerned with most of Jim's decisions and tactics of the last few weeks, but I certainly don't think he should go now. He's greatly improved the team attitude, discipline and and fitness as we were in complete dissarray when he started the job.

To my mind that makes him a very good coach, whilst he is still learning team management and tactics. Nevertheless, he has got us pretty much assured of a play-off place which is possibly the best we could have expected. He must be allowed to finish the job he started, then assess things on whether or not we gain promotion.

If we didn't gain promotion I would like to see him stay on as coach, with possibly an experienced manager in charge of team decisions and tactics. If he does gain promotion he should be able to develop with less pressure to gain promotion from the first.

My concern is that Jim seemed to have a settled team and has now gone backwards. We had an unchanged side for 5 games which we won, and as soon as Stu Greacen was fit, instead of making one change he made 5 or 6 positional changes. This was the first time he had shown this lack of patience and he seems to have done so ever since. He seems to have gone from well thought out decisions to impulsive ones, even when things are going okay. He doesn't seem able to make just one change when there'e an injury, it has to be 5 or 6. Having a smaller squad doesn't seem to be making selection any easier, whereas Gretna have a more settled team with a large squad.

On Saturday Jim seemed too quick to sub Lilley with half time a minute away, then subbed Alex Walker just after he had equalised, having said previously he was low in confidence. Miller then ended up on the left wing with Weatherson again moved out of defence. McGurn also seemed unfit. Jim said we were out thought, I think it was Jim who made Stirling's job easier with these tactics. I also don't think McPake's any better than Templeman and someone must have got him mixed up with another player by saying he's got pace.

I agree we should have signed an experienced midfielder but I honestly thought we were doing okay with the players we have, until Jim started constantly changing things around. I'm not sure why he's doing this unless he's deliberately trying to keep everyone in a small squad on thier toes so they don't go stale. Maybe he has a plan to settle on a first choice team soon in an effort to find form and consistency so we peak in the run-up to the play-offs. If that's the case for goodness sake why can't he or Dougie come out and say it, that way they could stop the speculation.

I suppose if we're going to have a form slump sometime in the season then this is the best time, with our play-off position hopefully now assured. If we can then get back to form we can hopefully be in good shape for the play-offs.

I agree with your post. There may be method in his apparent madness, given that we're still placed comfortably for the playoffs.

If either Jim, and or Rae, would come out publicly with an explanation that the present painful stuff is just part of a master plan (finding the right blend by trial and error) I'd feel a lot more comfortable.

There would be nothing wrong with that and most of the fans would be patient.

It's still bloody galling though to drive up to Stirling on a cold Saturday to see the team you love being made to look like a shower of feckless schoolboys, by a bunch of guys with nine to five jobs, and a bit of belief in themselves.
mortonjag 2006-03-03 10:50:13 Can anybody venture an answer to a question I've asked repeatedly. What happens to Gretna if Mileson, (God forbid wink.gif ) gets knocked down and killed by a tractor while crossing the road to buy his hair conditioner, boot polish, and sweeties for the fans?

My take is that Gre£na FC will be bankrupt overnight.
mortonjag 2006-03-03 10:54:36
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Mar 1 2006, 07:37 PM) [snapback]103880[/snapback]

My reasons stemmed from Saturday when I realised we don't really have a midfielder who can take a game by the scruff of the neck. I'd agree Andy McLaren can at times but he's normally out on the wing and doesn't really track back or tackle.

We seem to have a never ending debate over Finlayson, Millar, McLaughlin, Alex Walker, Adam etc. and who should be in central midfield. I thought this might throw up a name instead of just shouting for our favourite player.

DOT-why has it taken three seasons for you to notice that?
mortonjag 2006-03-03 11:37:49 Gretna apparently have undersoil heating but don't use it as the money's all spent on wages and bonuses
mortonjag 2006-03-03 12:02:53
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Mar 3 2006, 11:46 AM) [snapback]104413[/snapback]

We arent "minnows", were one of the top 15 clubs in Scotland in terms of support.

Correct-for minnows read Gretna-sorry-an insult to minnows-ephemera is more appropriate IMO.
mortonjag 2006-03-03 19:05:18
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Mar 3 2006, 12:18 PM) [snapback]104422[/snapback]

I knew I was leaving myself open when I said that. I knew we needed experience in midfield, but I have to confess I only realised last week that we don't have even one player who can take control of a game in midfield.

I thought maybe we were changing things around so much no-one was getting a proper chance to stamp their authority on the position. On Saturday though after Jim McInally said this was his strongest eleven, I looked and realised there are no solutions within our current squad, we definitely need a midfield general.

Absolutely, and IMO we should be looking no further than older guys with a bit left in them- McInnes for example-and they don't need to cost 'an arm and a leg', never mind a Templeman.
mortonjag 2006-03-03 19:22:16
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Mar 3 2006, 07:07 PM) [snapback]104512[/snapback]

See these bloody diddy clubs. biggrin.gif

Love your picture-I was there (in that far away stand)-and for the younger members we went on to the League Cup Final at Hampden v Rangers in front of some 105,000 fans.

Morton were never a 'diddy' club and can be great again-oh, and by the way, the team McGraw played in that night was a ragbag of rejects and misfits picked up by Hal Stewart.

None of your Mileson's-'We're fine as long as I'm around' sugar Daddy s***e-we MADE our success.

Gretna are merely a shower of mercenaries (euphemism) or prostitutes (actuality) who are selling their bodies to pleasure a frustrated old man.-oops-IMO !
mortonjag 2006-03-03 20:18:34
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Mar 3 2006, 10:57 AM) [snapback]104385[/snapback]

There is only one way to find out i suppose...do it.... laugh.gif

If I only had the balls-and the tractor! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-03-03 20:35:37 Kevin came to us as a highly rated midfield workhorse, yet a poll on the forum shows that not one voter out of 76 favours him there.

Frankly, he just hasn't cut it at Cappielow-he certainly is never a forward, though I've been wondering for months if he couldn't become an effective right back, or even a sweeper for that matter
mortonjag 2006-03-03 20:44:10
QUOTE(Donwan @ Mar 3 2006, 08:33 PM) [snapback]104533[/snapback]

I have been scanning some old photos/slides that my Grandfather took at Cappielow. I have uploaded one to see if anyone remembers it. I have no idea of dates etc but would guess the 60's

I don't think either of the teams is the Ton. We played some Schoolboy/under 21 internationals at Scapa in those days (Joe Harper starred in one), and this might be Scotland v N. Ireland-but a pure guess.
mortonjag 2006-03-03 20:59:06
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Mar 3 2006, 08:28 PM) [snapback]104532[/snapback]

apparently he's set up a trust fund so that won't happen....

Sounds great in theory, but a trust fund is inevitably limited by the initial investment.

No matter how large that might be, Gretna FC is, per se, a loss maker because of the geography and limited fan base.

In my opinion the money would sooner or later run out, no matter how good the administration might be.

The more likely case scenario, IMO, is that Sugar Daddy will eventually cross swords with the Establishment-SPL/UEFA-who will put him firmly in his place, and tell him to get a life, or a genuinely viable proposition.

I detest the man's myopia, but would welcome him with open arms in Greenock.
mortonjag 2006-03-03 21:13:49
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Mar 3 2006, 09:01 PM) [snapback]104542[/snapback]

trust him.................they will bury him at his favorite spot on the gretna terracing and erect a tomb stone .

whot do you recon it might say
Here lie the ashes of Gretna FC, predeceased tragically by, and superinterred on the body of that great benefactor and philanthropist St Brooks the myopic.

Anyhow, it doesn't matter-after a couple of years nobody would bother to read it.
mortonjag 2006-04-08 10:47:14 Frankly, the more I hear about them right now the better-their heads are already unbelievably overinflated. Hearts will bring them back to earth with a thump, and then we'll get all the usual excuses.

Alexander, with Mileson's, multi millions at his disposal can't hold a candle to what Hal Stewart achieved at Cappielow on a shoestring in the sixties and seventies.

What sickens me at the moment is that Mileson, and Alexander in particular, consistently deny that they have bought success. I really can't see the point in that when it's staring everybody in the face.
mortonjag 2006-04-08 11:04:01 When some rich bastard like Romanov or Abramovic indulges his 'wee boy' aspirations on a viable entity like Hearts or Chelsea we might be jealous, but at least it makes sense.

I've said from day one that Mileson is either an idiot, or a conniving businessman.

Sure, everybody sees him as 'Mr Nice Guy' just now because of favourable press coverage, but Gretna in their present form can never succeed at a profit in the SPL, let alone Europe.

How long will it be 'til we see his true colours. I suspect he's been eyeing a link with Carlisle from the very start-and good riddance!
mortonjag 2006-04-30 10:09:08 I've just looked at the final stats for the season. We've only had three more goals against us than the future European Cup pretenders.

Aye right Alexander, Hearts don't need a golden stick to pish all over your lot-they could just take the Binos side on loan for the final smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-01 10:34:40 My brother and I were only about thirty yards away. Andy and the defender went for a 50/50 ball, and he (Andy) looked as though he was being obstructed.

When the whistle went we thought the Ton had a free-then the card went up with Andy backing away from the incident and only apparently indicating he had been elbowed.

The wee lineslady didn't seem too concerned one way or another and she had the best view of all.

Just another example of the incompetent s***e we get from the lower grade refs every week. Although it was never a dirty game Forfar committed two or three pretty cynical fouls in the second half and the Ref just gave wee tickings off.
mortonjag 2006-05-01 11:16:25 Peterhead this season are a wee bit like Stranraer last time.
Five sides have scored more than them, but they have the third best defence, and a very stuffy midfield.

I really think it matters very little what eleven go on-it's going to be down to attitude, and if that's right we will definitely win what is effectively a cup tie.
mortonjag 2006-05-01 11:33:39
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ May 1 2006, 09:31 AM) [snapback]130445[/snapback]

If Thistle win the play offs the second division will look like this

Morton
Stranraer
Cowdenbeath
Ayr
Raith
Stirling
Forfar
Peterhead
Brechin
Alloa (probably but maybe Berwick or Stenny)

The nearest away game is Ayr followed by Stirling. All the others are miles away. If we don't go up and Thistle do, we lose the two most local clubs in Dumbarton and Thistle plus the only club capable of bringing any sort of crowd to Cappielow.

Put like this, promotion is essential so c'mon the boys in the play offs.

Exactly, and I still feel sore that some of our fans were so generous to Gretna.
It's bloody ironic when they've bought promotion, and instead of going up with them by rights, we're tossed into a lottery situation which could see our income dwindle next season-and how long will Dougie keep pitching in? Anyhow-fingers crossed.
mortonjag 2006-05-01 11:48:57 Forfar took it easy on Saturdayagainst a team of talented youngsters keen to impress and just maybe get a run out in the play-offs.

No way was that the side who despite their league position beat Gretna twice.

Sure the youngsters were impressive and Del got two gilt edged passes, but we didn't do much else up front-let's not get carried away-it was just a fun day out for both sides really.
mortonjag 2006-05-01 12:38:30
QUOTE(Cappielowcrazy @ May 1 2006, 11:38 AM) [snapback]130509[/snapback]

You can see some of what happened here -

http://www.tontastic.com/index.cgi?dir=200...ar&med=i&pag=20

My recollection is that after some clear obstruction from the Forfar player Andy got fed up and gave him a good shove in the back. Didn't think it was worth a card , but he possibly also said something to the ref. The lineslady definitely had her flag up.

Don't suppose we'll ever know. I thought the flag was up for obstruction, and Andy categorically was NOT mouthing off in the ref's face like he used to. Rather he was clearly backing off claiming he had been elbowed. Given that he had only been on for minutes with no previous warnings, it's very hard to understand what merited the card. The question is-if it had not been Andy, would he have been booked? Jury out on that.
mortonjag 2006-05-01 12:48:47 As I said, attitude will be more important than anything and for that (and only that) reason, I would include Kev Finlayson. I still think Spoonsy is played out of position, and though it won't happen, I'd stick him up front beside Vialli.


McGurn

Finlayson Harding Greacen McGregor


McLaren Millar McLaughlin McAllister


Lilley Weatherson
mortonjag 2006-05-01 12:53:29
QUOTE(moneton!!! @ May 1 2006, 11:39 AM) [snapback]130510[/snapback]

Sold 200 teracing in an hour, was there at 20 past 10 and the numbers were still in the 30's

Got to say they look quite respectable-not your cheapskate Mileson's toilet paper stuff ! mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-01 13:02:43 We don't have anybody who, on form, can transform a game like Andy. He thrives on atmosphere, and anybody who would drop him for Wednesday needs his head looked IMO. Jason Walker has been undervalued this season, but he just isn't in the same class.
mortonjag 2006-05-03 07:55:42 Despite an up and down season, we've nearly always raised our game when it really seemed to matter-for example at Love St, and Raydale.

We've got bags more quality than the Blue Toon, and they know they'll have to contain us tonight and try to hit on the break.

If the boys ARE up for it, there's no reason why we shouldn't win by a couple of goals, and I can't see Peterhead clawing that back.

On the down side, if the lads come out all nervous, they will really need our support to turn this game, so keep it going from before the kick off.
mortonjag 2006-05-03 09:52:00 It's an easy journey. M8-M80-M9-M90.
Once you get to Aberdeen take signs for Peterhead and Fraserburgh. The Stadium is just off the main road as you head out of town towards Fraserburgh.

I'm giving it four hours from Glasgow, and would suggest four and a half to five from Greenock. Good luck.
mortonjag 2006-05-03 10:40:18
QUOTE(MaxTon @ May 3 2006, 09:54 AM) [snapback]131606[/snapback]

We drove it in about three and a half hours last time, taking it relatively easy, and slowing for the 462 b*starding speed cameras between Dundee and Aberdeen. Think that 4 hours should be comfortable.

Sounds like a typical Ton fan-dead gallus- 'taking it relatively easy', and having to slow for all the b*starding speed cameras-nice one MaxTon rolleyes.gif Hope the boys are as enthusiastic tonight!
mortonjag 2006-05-03 10:55:06
QUOTE(MaxTon @ May 3 2006, 10:47 AM) [snapback]131641[/snapback]

Are the Peterhead fans just in the usual section of the main stand then? Or are they splitting the Wee Dublin End?

No need-they've already been allocated 50 stand seats which should be more than enough (I pray) !!!!! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-03 11:05:01 Dazza, don't grudge Dougie his wee speeches. He's not everybody's cup of tea, but without him we wouldn't be there tonight.

Don't forget he's an old man with an unusual passion for and generosity to his first love-The Ton.
mortonjag 2006-05-03 11:27:41 Just another old chestnut, but sometimes I get totally pissed off with our lack of press coverage compared to the SPL.

Does anybody think that the TOTAL crowds at Inverness and Almondvale tonight will exceed that at Scapa?

The beaks have made all sorts of excuses to justify those stupid playoffs-but at the end of the day, as long as we're stuck in this s***hole division two, nobody's really interested.

Roll on Division one where everybody will be raising their game against f*cking Gretna, and we'll get some peace. mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-03 11:31:11
QUOTE(dazza @ May 3 2006, 11:21 AM) [snapback]131657[/snapback]

Belive me i dont , i think they are immense

Sorry, I thought you were having a go. Let's face it Dougie can be a boring old fart, but you always get him the same way, and he's TON through and through.
mortonjag 2006-05-03 11:56:20 The detailed forecast suggests we might get off with cloud and showers rather than a downpour-it'll hopefully stay reasonably good 'til mid/late evening.
Absolutely no question of postponement (barring an Act of God, but he'll probably be at the Aberdeen Hearts match sucking up to Romanov before the Cup Final. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-03 12:31:28 Dillon, Maisano, Paul Walker, Hawke, Mahood and Bannerman are away.

McGurn's much more solid and confident, and his kicking has improved. Weatherson's played solidly all season in defence and still managed to score a few. McGregor got back from injury and has been solid if a bit stuffy at left back.
Harding and Greacen are beginning to get used to each other instead of constantly going for the same ball.
Keenan's rarely played.
Andy McLaren's had a troublesome season with adverse publicity for mouthing off, and his recent form has been dire, but I'm expecting great things tonight.

Scott McLaughlin does a power of work, but his finish still frustrates.
Young McAllister can be electrifying, but has been inconsistent of late.
Chris Templeman just didn't 'cut it'-a huge disappointment to us all, and went on loan to Brechin. He's still on our books.

We signed midfielders Kevin Finlayson, and Alex Walker mid season. Finlayson's a powerhouse, and popular with the fans, but his final touches consistently let him down. Walker could become a class act IMO but he's been in and out, and his form has suffered. John Adam has also been knocking on the first team door-he's a bit powder puff, but can make defence splitting passes. For me the man of the season has been Chris Millar. Gets barracked at times as a shirker, but creative, with a tremendous work rate, and knocked in two at Gretna.

Up front Derek Lilley has been grafting away. He started slowly and some fans were getting impatient, but his season's goals tally speaks for itself. Jason Walker has been something of a super sub-a fast and aggressive runner, who can link well, and knows where the goal is.

Tonight, if we play to form, we'll frustrate Peterhead in midfield, creating several chances up front, and hopefully bagging a couple. I'd be surprised if McGurn and his back four get too much trouble, but they are still not immune to that sucker punch breakaway.
mortonjag 2006-05-03 12:40:59 I'm surprised that we are such strong favourites to win outright-certainly it reflects our league position, but they clearly don't think much of Stranraer, and I certainly fancy Partick for that battle.
mortonjag 2006-05-03 12:53:45
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ May 3 2006, 12:43 PM) [snapback]131691[/snapback]

[For me the man of the season has been Chris Millar. Gets barracked at times as a shirker, but creative, with a tremendous work rate, and knocked in two at Gretna.

Even Chris Millar himself said a few months back that he'd had a poor season. I think he's been quite a bit better recently, but 'man of the season'... no.

Anyway, all past performance of the season are forgotten about. It all starts tonight...

It's all down to personal opinion-I could easily have chosen McGurn, or Lilley, and many might go for wee McAllister because sometimes he is SO good, but in terms of productivity, I honestly believe Chris has done far more than any other over the course of a full season. Anyway, as you say roll on tonight, and if it scores three they can play a Clydesdale up front! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-03 13:01:18
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ May 3 2006, 12:46 PM) [snapback]131692[/snapback]

Jesus. Pots and kettles.

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Who rattled your cage?-I've been off line for ages only to find open wounds when I return-get a life son. tongue.gif Oh and by the way do you spill your Bovril, and slever all over your pie as you hang on Dougie's every last word?
mortonjag 2006-05-03 14:08:16
QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 3 2006, 01:53 PM) [snapback]131724[/snapback]

Where have you been anyway
Ya trumpet? tongue.gif

I would love to say, 'Somewhere nice' Bob, but truth is the PC's nearly as old as me. Anyhow it's fixed and good to be back in the fray! And I'll tell you this, if I had a trumpet, I'd take it with me tonight and blow like f*** for the Ton! wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-03 14:13:24
QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 3 2006, 01:39 PM) [snapback]131715[/snapback]

I lost my virginity to a young lady with very large breasts and that quote could easly have been applied to my experience.

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Your short term memory is unbelievable Bob-almost as good as your imagination-by the way have you gone off Kev yet? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-03 14:34:00
QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 3 2006, 02:16 PM) [snapback]131741[/snapback]

Cheeky. rolleyes.gif

Kev's a man for certain games. ie. I'd start him away at Peterhead on Saturday but not tonight.

I think you've now got the measure of him Bob, but frankly we need his grit in the playoffs IMO.
mortonjag 2006-05-03 16:00:30 We are MUCH stronger this season-well ahead of all the genuine contenders.

Gretna and the playoffs (in no particular order) have tended to confuse us, but look at the bookies odds quoted earlier. If we don't believe in ourselves, how can we encourage the boys to get their reward. We will be promoted, and let's get it rolling tonight. cool.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-03 16:03:38
QUOTE(steveoath @ May 3 2006, 02:55 PM) [snapback]131762[/snapback]

I've set my class microscope work today. Gives me the chance to soak in the 'net banter ;-)

-and not see what they're ACTUALLY doing! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-03 16:11:30
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ May 3 2006, 03:00 PM) [snapback]131767[/snapback]

Not at all, just find it a bit ironic that the most tedious messageboard member in history can call anyone (never mind Dougie Rae) a boring old fart.

Sorry if I bore you TOF-what would you like me to do-tell you jokes-put wee bouncy titties on my avatar-guess I can't and don't intend to please everybody, and yes I like Dougie very much, but he definitely can be a boring old fart-just ask Arthur M.
mortonjag 2006-05-03 16:29:40 I'll definitely be nervous if we don't go up the road with a two goal lead, but I've got a really good feeling about tonight. It'll be a tough, tough game, but we've at least got a half decent ref, which might just work for us if the Blue Toon get frustrated.

I'm predicting 3-1 to the Ton-Lilley, McLaren, Millar. rolleyes.gif Linn for them
mortonjag 2006-05-03 16:34:03
QUOTE(Svetlana Krimislav @ May 3 2006, 04:31 PM) [snapback]131824[/snapback]

A tortoise head has appeared in Svetlana's knickers and there's no sign of it retreating.

not heard the story of the tortoise and the hair? smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-04 05:41:31 LargsTon and I have continually disagreed over Chris Millar and Kev Finlayson, but last night Millar was anonymous in a game where he had to shine. At least with Finlayson you get 100% effort, 100% of the time-BUT there's still Saturday.

Frankly the villain of the piece was McLaren-another guy I've been very supportive of.

The young boys went out last night stage struck, and needed a calming and controlling influence, and the one man who has shown he is capable completely blew it.

Last but not least-McInally-nice guy, yes,-good coach,yes-good manager, maybe in two or three years, but certainly not now.
mortonjag 2006-05-04 05:51:19
QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 4 2006, 01:03 AM) [snapback]132246[/snapback]

don't involve me

They're big shoogly ones! sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-04 05:59:11
QUOTE(big B @ May 4 2006, 12:48 AM) [snapback]132237[/snapback]

I will probably get shot down for this but tonight our so called big players let us down yet again. I have been at most games this season and I can count on one hand the games Andy McLaren has played well this season. Derek Lilley for a man of his build when the ball get's put up to him he cannot seem to shield the ball and then lay the ball off i.e in the way Warren Hawke could. Andy Mclaren if he put as much effort into his play as he does trying to get the crowd fired up we would probably be a lot better off. The only time we looked prominet in front of goal was when young Kenny McLean got brought on. Before I get shot down just remember McLaren and Lilley are on big bucks are we getting value for money I think not.

Lay off Lilley-IMO he does a power of work shielding, knocking back, taking defenders out of position, headflicking into space and so on. Last night he had a shower of feckless kids playing alongside him so what did you expect.

McLaren-that's different IMO-I'm confused-he's not been the same since the spat with McInally-none of the old hunger and buzz he had. I thought it was just a dip in form and he would come up trumps last night, but for a man of his experience and standing he failed to lead by example and was very ordinary.
mortonjag 2006-05-04 06:12:21 I don't like ratings-they don't always tell the whole story. Last night we had a team of talented youngsters who should have been physically and psychologically prepared for arguably their biggest match all season by a well paid full time management team. Ian Stewart just says-right lads, 'get to every ball first and keep knocking them forward into space-end of story. mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-04 06:29:21 Nobody seemed prepared for last night-management, players OR fans.

Compare that fiasco to Love St, or the last game at Raydale.

All I'm hoping for is a massive f*cking reality check all round.
Let's get up that road on Saturday and outshout and scud those part time b*stards for taking the piss. mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-04 11:37:00
QUOTE(IainMorton @ May 4 2006, 10:16 AM) [snapback]132328[/snapback]

McGurn - 6
Weatherson - 7
MacGregor - 4
Harding - 6
Greacen - 8
A. Walker - 5
Millar - 6
McLaren - 6
Lilley - 7
McLAughlin - 4
McAllister - 6

Finlayson - 6
McLean - 5

McInally - Can't really blame him, he put out a solid enough team but they let him down.

DID they 'let him down' Iain? Do you know what went on in the dressing room at half time, or hear the shouts to and from the touchline? You make a good point-that team looked solid enough on paper to thrive in Division 1 yet it failed to perform. Successful football clubs have managers who can (for most of the time) get the best from their players. I think Jim's just too f***ing nice to be honest. We could have done with Cloughie, or Stein, or Shankly last night.
mortonjag 2006-05-04 11:59:47 Now everybody's talking about team selections, formations, and tactics.

Well I said before last night's game I didn't care what team was picked as long as they had the right attitude, and the same applies to Saturday's game.

What worries me is whether or not it can be achieved. At least we're now underdogs, and they'll have twice the fans, so the expectations of the boys will maybe not seem so huge, but last night the 'will to win' was only evident from a couple.

mortonjag 2006-05-04 13:29:00 What a f***ing fanny-wish the wee lassie at the chip bar had put arsenic in his poke, but at 100 + fags a day he'd probably have survived mad.gif . Anyhow Hearts will put his gas on a peep, and maybe-just maybe-UEFA will tell him to come back when he's built a proper stadium.

Next season Gre£na will be the target for a lot of first division players who will rightly resent their unwarranted financial status. Get it right up you you muddle headed arsehole, or buy a REAL football club and earn some respect.
mortonjag 2006-05-04 13:38:57
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ May 4 2006, 11:46 AM) [snapback]132378[/snapback]

When he broke away on his own up the middle at the end he showed his class.
Pathetic! sad.gif

f*** off you transvestite apology for a Ton fan, and come back when you can think up your first constructive comment.
mortonjag 2006-05-04 13:44:14 Jim's been excellent all season, but his recent form hasn't been great, and last night I thought that apart from one or two flashes of talent he was very ordinary. Who the hell picks those MOTM?

For me big Stu stood out a mile for his no nonsense attitude and commitment. If the rest had played with half his conviction, we'd have won at a canter IMO.
mortonjag 2006-05-04 13:49:21
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ May 4 2006, 01:42 PM) [snapback]132473[/snapback]

I disagree as I thought he looked like just another, too small-poor touch- bags of ambition and little talent striker.

My opinion makes me a tw@t, apparently? dry.gif

Your opinion, your avatar, and your never failing penchant for gratuitously destructive and demeaning diatribe-f*** off and give us peace.
mortonjag 2006-05-04 14:05:46
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ May 4 2006, 01:47 PM) [snapback]132483[/snapback]

ohmy.gif what??

I didnt rate the boy as a prospect and I get this kind of abuse.
You tell me to f*** off behind your computer for expressing my opinion?? BUT Where were you when the arseholes in the shed were booing him and every other player that gave his all last night?

I appluaded him and evey other player off the park but I simply state that IN MY OPINION he does not look good enough.

UnbelFckinleavable!! mad.gif

Soupy fanny-what you actually did was made a totally sarcastic and inaccurate comment about the boy, and when you discovered that nobody was amused you started backtracking as per usual. Your 'opinions' are as educated as your spelling.
mortonjag 2006-05-04 15:29:11
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ May 4 2006, 01:57 PM) [snapback]132495[/snapback]

I think you have just scored an own goal with that one. rolleyes.gif

We all remember you from a few months back, with your sactamonious arguments with anyone and everyone.

You were top of the ignore league for weeks .

How many of you are there or do you just speak for everybody, oh mighty one?

I can have a good old squabble with most of the boys but for YOU to describe me as sanctimonious -at least that's how I was taught to spell it, (but then I DID go to school) is a bit OTT.

The trouble is, sweetie, that this is an open forum. You are obviously reasonably intelligent, and enjoy foisting your self indulgent little 'one liners' on the other posters-that's fine by me-if you're willing to apply the same principle to others, but you seem to fall into that unsavoury little 'chip on the shoulder' category, which can't cope with anything or anybody perceived as superior.

You try to suck others in to support you when you can't cope. LOOK- LOOK everybody at what nasty Mr Mortonjag said-that's why I criticised Kenny McLean !!

Why don't you untwist your knickers and relax as advised by a genuine lady?
mortonjag 2006-05-04 15:38:54 I don't know if it would have made a lot of difference, but he and Del might just have produced something, given the absent midfield.
mortonjag 2006-05-04 16:27:09 What do you think the Peterhead management and squad are saying right now?

If they're realistic they ought to be s***ting themselves-let's face it they came to Scapa, gave their everything against a very off-form Ton, and only managed 0 - 0.

Our trouble has been inconsistency and lack of motivation-not inability-and on form we can trounce that lot.

The trouble is we have GOT to go on with the right attitude.

My gut feeling is that in the immortal words of our Chairman, they WILL be 'pumped up' this time.

If not, the journey home will be even longer and sadder than from Stranraer last time. sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-04 16:40:53
QUOTE(BubbaTON @ May 4 2006, 04:38 PM) [snapback]132593[/snapback]

no Jason adds nothing to the team

He has come on as a sub and scored some cracking goals. I don't think he should necessarily be a first team regular, but to say he adds nothing seems harsh IMO.
mortonjag 2006-05-04 17:09:56
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 4 2006, 04:47 PM) [snapback]132600[/snapback]

why they are a good team, they are not scared of us. I think they may think they are through.

They only have the sixth best goals tally in the league, and we were 13 points ahead. We should have beaten them last time at Balmoor Bryan.

If they're not scared and think they're through, that's the best scenario for us, but I really don't think they are so stupid.
mortonjag 2006-05-05 07:25:23
QUOTE(edd @ May 4 2006, 11:44 PM) [snapback]132860[/snapback]

look at our end of season points total - one of our highest ever and good enough to win any of the lower divisions in any normal year. mcinally did a good job in the league, you can't sack him for getting knocked out in the play-offs (if that is indeed what happens).

mcinally said he would walk if we didn't get promoted this season - that was before anyone knew how easily gretna would find this division and before the play-offs were introduced. the team's performance in the league has earned mcinally the right to stay, though with fans like you (and you aren't alone in wanting mcinally to go) i wouldn't blame him for not wanting to stay.

Edd-if you apply that principle more widely, the best manager in Scotland is arguably Rowan (girning face) Alexander, whose past record is to say the least uninspiring. Money talks, and without Gretna we are the rich bastards of this league, but struggling.

If McInally had the persona of say Jim Jefferies, instead of his 'Mr Nice Guy' one we'd ALL be calling for his blood.

The truth is that in the lower divisions the best results are frequently obtained by experienced guys with a nine to five job as well. Look at Farningham-just landed a plum job at Gretna for getting the best out of a weak Forfar squad.
If Neil Watt asked for the job, despite Stranraer's woes this season, or even Dick Campbell, I wouldn't be too concerned. Why does Douglas Rae think he needs a 'high profile' name?
mortonjag 2006-05-05 10:33:01
QUOTE(Patrick Bateman @ May 5 2006, 10:05 AM) [snapback]132966[/snapback]

What the f*** ?

Please tell me you didnt just mention them 2 names blink.gif

Stranraer were the most boring team i've ever seen and a lot of first division fans have said the same. People slate our style at the moment so Neil Watt would get absolutely slaughtered.

DICK CAMPBELL ! ! ! Please tell me you were fishing by mentioning his name?

You can't dispute facts-last season Campbell and Watt denied us promotion with weaker squads-simple as that. The fact that Stranraer have been poor this season is down to the available squad more than the manager, and Campbell-no matter what you say-is respected for his experience and ability.

I know that no manager is immune from criticism when his team isn't producing, but what I just don't get about the Ton is that several times this season-(Stirling at home, and away, and Firhill last Autumn for example) the lads just seemed to give up the ghost.

I think that is as much a measure of the manager as the players, and we saw it again on Wednesday. To my mind Jim is just too nice, and lacks the ability to cajole or kick ass when it's most needed.

Anyhow, there's always tomorrow! unsure.gif

mortonjag 2006-05-05 10:39:10
QUOTE(Joe Mason @ May 5 2006, 09:49 AM) [snapback]132961[/snapback]

We need Goals and I don't care if we concede one or even two aslong as we win 5 - 2. This will do it!

McGurn

Alex Walker Harding Greacen McGregor

McLauglin
Miller McAllister

McLaren
Lilley Weatherston

I'd go along with that, but I'd rather have Finlayson than Walker at right back.
mortonjag 2006-05-05 10:51:48 Let's face it, for some reason the 'feel good factor' has been lacking all season.

I'll never forget the atmosphere at New Bayview three seasons ago. Everybody was up for it, and that was echoed when we beat Peterhead at Scapa.

It can't just be down to one thing, but Gre£na, and the playoffs in one season are largely responsible.

For weeks now we've been languishing in second place, and agonising over this reprieve or execution farce. I don't blame the fans, but c'mon, tomorrow could be our last chance to see decent football in Greenock for a long, long time.

The sad truth is that statistically, and if the Bookies are right, we should be 'walking' the playoffs.

Hopefully the boys are smarting after Wednesday-if they are we've got nothing to fear IMO.
mortonjag 2006-05-05 10:57:01
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 5 2006, 10:37 AM) [snapback]132976[/snapback]

no way would i ever want that diddy near my team, look at the signings he has made with a budget the same as ours.

Didn't sign Templeman or McPake Bryan, and before you tell me he's just on loan, I'll comment that it's just as well!!! sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-05 11:01:06
QUOTE(Vialli_No7 @ May 5 2006, 10:56 AM) [snapback]132997[/snapback]

I think on Wednesday we were missing someone who could put his foot on the ball, slow things down or hold it up. The middlefield were pinging the ball about like they didnt want it.

Anyway, Im not sure but maybe John Adam would be better than Mclaughlan for that?

John Adam is under-rated in terms of his creative ability, but on Wednesday he would just have been snuffed out by Peterhead. He only plays well when he's got support, and allowed space and thinking time.
mortonjag 2006-05-05 11:16:08 We had a thread earlier in the season about booing-but that had been at half-time and during the match, which I despise.

I wasn't actually surprised at the booing after the Peterhead farce, and although I felt sorry for the few players who didn't deserve it, it simply echoed my own sentiments, even if I stayed quiet.

Booing during a match rarely encourages anybody IMO, but surely it's an innocuous way of saying 'We've been cheated', when the final whistle's gone.
mortonjag 2006-05-05 11:21:40
QUOTE(Patrick Bateman @ May 5 2006, 11:13 AM) [snapback]133010[/snapback]

I worded that wrong. What i meant was that Neil Watt's style of football wouldn't be accepted by a lot of fans at Cappielow.

Dick Campbell signs old has-beens like Ritchie and Dodds and this sort of signing wouldnt be welcomed either.

If Campbell is so good please explain why some Partick fans have admitted they would rather lose the playoffs and see Campbell leave, than being promoted with him in charge?

Hal Stewart evolved a very successful Ton team out of 'old has beens', and I'd have given an arm and leg for a Bobby Collins, or Doug Cowie, or Bobby Evans this season. Sure Campbell hasn't cut the mustard this term, but if he's so f*cking useless, why did Brechin piss all over us last year?
mortonjag 2006-05-05 11:36:30
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 5 2006, 11:25 AM) [snapback]133024[/snapback]

out that list i gave, who would you want here.

For a start-only based on recent form mind you- I'd rather have Quitongo than McLaren, and I've never seen Ricky Gillies playing the powder puff s***e we got from our lot on Wednesday. Several of the others have a history of strength and determination too.

Bryan-it's all about the blend, and motivation. I'm sure I love the Ton as much as you do. They've got a great bunch of lads with potential, but it just sickens me that that final ingredient-the cool 'old head' in midfield has been ignored by our Management and Directorate.

Hopefully it's not too late, but in this respect, whether we're in Division 1 or 2 next term doesn't matter. The issue HAS to be addressed IMO.
mortonjag 2006-05-05 12:07:29
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 5 2006, 11:47 AM) [snapback]133043[/snapback]

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I DID say based on Andy's recent form Bryan so why are you smiling-wee Jose can turn defences (and a game) when he's up for it, and he just keeps smiling too!!! wub.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-05 12:18:06
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 5 2006, 12:09 PM) [snapback]133051[/snapback]

I think you are over estimating the quailty of the guys they have, Ricky Gillies is not the player he was, and none of the players listed are very good.

I agree we need a cool 'old head' in midfield but we haven't had that in 6 years.

Exactly, we're agreed on that, and I imagine we could have had quite a classy player, given the money we've used.

Bobby Evans was playing for the Ton into his forties, and could still take a game by the scruff of the neck and motivate the others, despite not having his previous pace and fitness. The quality that I'm estimating isn't always staring you in the face as a spectator.

Put it this way, if you've got a 'Mr Motivator' out there, does it matter if his actual form isn't that good, as long as he can get the best from the team as a whole?
mortonjag 2006-05-05 12:33:10 Penalty taking isn't the art it was when the goalie had to stay motionless bang in the middle 'til the ball was actually struck. In those days, it was very much down to the kicker's skill, and the keeper's reflexes, and you did see some superb saves. Some of the older guys will remember Erik Sorensen for example.

Now, a 'good penalty' is pretty well one that ends up in the net. Let's face it, some well struck and placed kicks are saved by agile goalies diving the right way in anticipation, with the reverse, when a 'sclaff' rolls in with the keeper stranded after guessing wrongly.

As to tomorrow-who knows-Davie McGurn seems pretty competent in penalty situations, but Mathers has just SO much experience, and again Peterhead's attitude would probably be to 'go for it' as they've nothing to lose, whereas our boys will be thinking 'oh f*ck this is IT' and panic could set in. Let's just pray for a clear victory.
mortonjag 2006-05-05 12:50:41 Peterhead won just about every 50/50 ball on Wednesday, and they are part time. What does that suggest?

I remember several games, particularly earlier in the season-e.g Gretna at Scapa when we clawed it back, and Love St. in the cup, when our young midfield harried for every ball, won a fair few, and completely knocked the opposition off its stride.

If we did it then, we can do it tomorrow. C'mon lads, forget Wednesday, the game's there to be won, and you CAN do it.
mortonjag 2006-05-05 20:51:13 Spoonsy up front where he belongs, and Finlayson at right back, from where he can also sweep up when required. We need Kev's energy and committment in this game, and spoiling is what he IS good at.

I think half the posters on here are sheep. Just because McInally plays Weatherson in defence, he's suddenly the best rearguard player since Christ knows whom.

Spoonsy was, is, and always will be a striker!
mortonjag 2006-05-05 20:58:28 Let's face it, refs are only 's***e' when decisions go against us. Imagine the guy`was abused as a child by a prison warder with a fishy smell-Ton v Partick!!
mortonjag 2006-05-05 21:13:35
QUOTE(JonaTon @ May 5 2006, 12:05 PM) [snapback]133048[/snapback]

What a strange way to think. If we went up to Balmoor totally dominated (while they were terrible) and came away with a 0-0 people would already proclaiming the tie over and wondering how we would fare against Partick Thistle.

They are in much the stronger position and have nothing to fear tomorrow - I certainly don't think they will be s***ting themselves, quite the opposite in fact.

I think we can do it - I fancy a 1-0 win - but I'm not so sure if we will.

You state, 'They are in a much stronger position and have nothing to fear tomorrow'-and you accuse ME of thinking strangely. Did you not see the quote from Harper McGhee-Ian Stewart knows we got out of jail on Wednesday, when they failed to kill it off, and it's very unlikely the script will be repeated IMO. Peterhead have blown it, and we will win.
mortonjag 2006-05-05 22:04:12
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 5 2006, 09:54 PM) [snapback]133369[/snapback]

Weatherson should stay were he is. This is not a time for messing about with defensive line ups.
I would hesitate to play McLaughlin as his performance of late has been dire, especially on Wednesday night.
Suppose it's down to the fitness of Alex Walker if he can't make it then we would have to play McLaughlin.
Up front you have to have Lilley & McLaren. Then possibly gamble with Jason if it's still a draw with 20 mins to go.

You'll eat those words if Weatherson is played up front and knocks in a couple-which he's MORE than capable of. When he came to us at first, he only needed a sniff of goal, and would score. He started way behind Williams, and in no time was upsides him.

Spoonsy's a natural predator, and why the f*ck, he's totally wasted as an albeit competent defender amazes me.
mortonjag 2006-05-05 22:12:22
QUOTE(axeman @ May 5 2006, 10:05 PM) [snapback]133374[/snapback]

mortonjag, Peter's days are a forward are all but over. When he's played up front now he struggles playing with his back to goal.

If you want a more radical suggestion play him & Ryan as the central defence & push Big Greacen into centre mid. He'd provide some much needed physical presence & recently he's shown a fair amount of ability further upfield.

I don't disagree with the latter part of your statement, but you're being premature about Spoonsy IMO and time will tell. The truth is he's not once been given long enough to slot back in up front this season, and the boy's still in his early/mid twenties.
mortonjag 2006-05-05 22:22:59 I'm definitely off to Hampden for the cup final. The last crumb of comfort in a miserable season will be seeing those bumpkin thieves reduced to ashes by Paul Hartley and co. mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-05 22:54:46
QUOTE(ThornTON @ May 5 2006, 10:30 PM) [snapback]133388[/snapback]

So you won't be going next Sunday then?

I go to every match the Ton play-I'm not apprehensive about tomorrow, and would bet on being at Scapa on the14th ThornTON.

It's just that I admit to being very, very bitter about the Gre£na situation in a season that also had playoffs. Take away either of those, and we'd be in division 1 now-BY RIGHTS.

I'm sick of the hype, sick of the pure sh*te about a fairytale, and more than sick when Alexander denies it's 'bought success', so I want them well and truly HUMPED RAW, after which I hope UEFA tell them to f*** off and come back when they've got a stadium and a fanbase.

Mileson's always got an eye to the main chance in my opinion, and absolutely no shame.

'Good evening Douglas-yes, it's me, Brooks, just came up to watch my mates from Peterhead, er, hope you don't mind-after all you've been such a gentleman all season, almost bending over backwards while I f*ck you' -and ironically slopes off to the strains of Bobo playing 'Money--money--money'. unsure.gif

mortonjag 2006-05-05 23:04:32
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 5 2006, 10:39 PM) [snapback]133394[/snapback]

not sure many of the 1200 tickets we have sold but I reckon we will be lucky to have 700-800 fans up there tomorrow, I know alot of guys have not been able to get seats on travel club buses and are just not going even though they have tickets.

Well thats about fair, when you think back to our 3rd division title winning game at Scapa. The Blue Toon fans were well outnumbered, but they were tremendous, and we'll just have to do the same for the boys tomorrow.
mortonjag 2006-05-05 23:09:05
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 5 2006, 11:02 PM) [snapback]133398[/snapback]

no offence but whats the point off threads like this the day before this huge game.

Just my way of coping Bryan-what's yours?

I didn't really entertain the possibility of not winning on Wednesday-maybe at my advanced age I'm turning into a realist.
mortonjag 2006-05-05 23:15:01
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 5 2006, 11:04 PM) [snapback]133399[/snapback]

I'm so confident Morton will win tomorrow If they lose I will buy Mortonjag his ticket for Hampden smile.gif

You're more than kind-and I hope it doesn't happen. Anyhow, I've just invented a digital 'how not to get caught smoking at Hampden' kit, and first thing on Monday I'm off south. Let's face it, all millionaires have to start somewhere
mortonjag 2006-05-05 23:16:35
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 5 2006, 11:13 PM) [snapback]133405[/snapback]

sheer panic and postive thought laugh.gif

Alternately I assume! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-05 23:24:49
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 5 2006, 11:19 PM) [snapback]133409[/snapback]

no laugh.gif

You are one of a rare breed, Bryan, a decisive lemming! sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-05 23:32:54
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 5 2006, 11:26 PM) [snapback]133414[/snapback]

GO TO BED laugh.gif

It's not exactly the Bernabeau Bryan-four hours max !
mortonjag 2006-05-05 23:38:00
QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 5 2006, 11:34 PM) [snapback]133423[/snapback]

Woke up at 16.30 today, mate. Still in nightshift mode.

Having a pizza and 4 cans of Tennents and will be in my wanking chariot for 1am.

And probably awake again at 3.

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For another of all rolleyes.gif three?!
mortonjag 2006-05-05 23:48:35
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 5 2006, 11:36 PM) [snapback]133424[/snapback]

I'm not saying he can't play up front. I just don't think we should tamper with the defense in a match like this.

As for McPake/Templeman can someone explain what advantage Morton got out of that deal. We are now down a striker. We had to bring in a reserve player on Wednesday (and I mean no disrepect to McLean) At the very least we should have made sure McPake was available for the playoffs !

Hindsight is a wonderful thing they say-frankly I was delighted when we bought Chris and I'd love to know the inside story there. His record was very impressive, so was his failure ALL down to him???

McPake-again, what's the real story?

Over the season, we've actually got a damned good defensive AND scoring record, but perhaps what will go down in the history books are the repeated fluctuations in players' form. It seems nobody has been immune, and despite what might be suggested otherwise, that's BAD management staring you in the face IMO.
mortonjag 2006-05-05 23:52:56 As a member of the geriatrocracy I didn't grudge the extra £2-what the hell-it's only another 1/2 gallon of petrol.
mortonjag 2006-05-06 00:01:32
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ May 5 2006, 11:47 PM) [snapback]133435[/snapback]

Its easy to predict how we'd feel if we lost and faced a fourth season in Division Two but why go to Peterhead if your resigned to us losing the tie and planning what your going to do on the belief? We don't need to hear it, we've got to think positive.

We all should be going there believing the boys can do it and even more importantly so making the noise and screaming our support for 90 minutes, even if we are losing 1-0 with two minutes left! Touch wood that won't happen. You can only hope that the fickle, hopeless boo boys aren't there, as poor as we were on Wednesday to behave like that at half-time in a 180 minute tie was disgraceful. Its not like we lost 6-0 or lost even!

bug-I'm not resigned to anything-Christ man when I was your age I went to Hampden for the league cup final with Rangers, and I REALLY BELIEVED WE WOULD WIN !!!

It's just that I've learned those wee tricks to cope with disappointment-football captivates us-nobody's immune, but life DOES go on when misfortune strikes.
mortonjag 2006-05-06 00:05:57
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 5 2006, 11:59 PM) [snapback]133444[/snapback]

what? where you getting your fuel from? It certainly aint Inverclyde, I think your living in Ayrshire and running your car on red diseal.

Naw midTONs that's Mileson you're thinking of. Gets it from Rowan's contacts-something to do with pigs I've been told. mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-06 00:08:42
QUOTE(BubbaTON @ May 5 2006, 11:56 PM) [snapback]133443[/snapback]

absolute disgrace if a semi fit jason gets on the bench ahead of McLEan

Or a quarter fit Andy Ritchie?
mortonjag 2006-05-06 00:17:24 Jason would have been a first choice for most 2nd division teams, AND would probably have scored a fair tally. I feel really sorry for him. As LargsTON says, in terms of time on the pitch he is arguably our most prolific scorer. Kenny Mclean is talented, but inexperienced-not the man for this match IMO.
mortonjag 2006-05-06 00:19:47
QUOTE(le_chien_de_la_vialasse @ May 6 2006, 12:08 AM) [snapback]133449[/snapback]

terracing! sitting is for poofs.

eh, standman?

Then why don't you join us darling? biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-06 06:44:07
QUOTE(JonaTon @ May 6 2006, 02:43 AM) [snapback]133576[/snapback]

Yes I do accuse you of thinking strangely.

In a football match played over two legs most people think it is (almost) a necessity to win the home leg - Morton failed to do that.

It is also considered an advantage to play the second leg at home. Peterhead are at home in the second leg.

In addition we are playing the second leg at a ground we are notorious for losing at, often putting in terrible performances.

We are going into it on the back of a terrible performance, Peterhead quite the opposite. Also Morton have been off form for about the last month of the season (that might be generous).

I am not writing us off my any stretch of the imagination but I don't see how you can argue that Peterhead should be s***ting themselves. If the roles were reversed I certainly wouldn't be expecting McInally to be s***ting himself.

Put it this way - if the Challenge Cup Semi Final was played over to legs, after playing St. Mirren off the park at Love Street and only getting 0-0 would you have been 's***ting' yourself about playing them at Cappielow ?

At the moment A DEFINITE 'YES' !!!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-06 06:51:34
QUOTE(le_chien_de_la_vialasse @ May 6 2006, 12:38 AM) [snapback]133466[/snapback]

if you pass le piece de merde (stylish red 1995 seat marbella) on the way up - there'll be a morton scarf trailing from the window - gie's a honk.

and if you can't pass a 1995 seat marbella i'd recommend getting the bus.

Royal blue MG-and Monkey'll have his wee Ton scarf on as always-he never stops smiling, win or lose !
mortonjag 2006-05-06 07:03:53
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 6 2006, 06:57 AM) [snapback]133588[/snapback]

yeeessss!!!! wink.gif

'Walker's brought down-is it a penalty?- yes-looks like weathers--- Weatherson steps up and----IT'S A GOOAAAL. The Morton fans are going wild-we've already run the 90 minutes-------the whistle goes. Morton are through, and Peterhead are left wondering what went wrong'--YEEESSSS rolleyes.gif

That dream just woke me up.
mortonjag 2006-05-06 07:07:45
QUOTE(se65an @ May 6 2006, 07:05 AM) [snapback]133592[/snapback]

Best put your sheets in the wash mate tongue.gif

You AIN'T kiddin' ! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-06 07:50:43
QUOTE(Patg @ May 6 2006, 07:27 AM) [snapback]133605[/snapback]

Yes I agree lets sing from start to finish and then sing some more whe are Ton fans all men women boys girls who have been taken to the games by someone and got hooked on that drug called MORTON FC ...my auld man took me he passed 4 weeks ago today and I hope he is there today with me willing my team that I love on to victory I need to go get my brekkie and get ready so cya aw up there and if you know me gies a nod or a hug im going need it ...

Whe Are Morton Super Morton ,,,

PAT G
A Proud Ton Fan ,,,

I'll be thinking about you Pat-my old man died in Inverclyde in December-when I was a kid he used to tell me about Cowan, Steele, Gourlay etc. and he saw Stanley Matthews playing for the Ton.
mortonjag 2006-05-06 07:55:44
QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 6 2006, 07:42 AM) [snapback]133615[/snapback]

Just a wee reminder of our third divison title winning match against the same opposition.

The Peterhead fans all applauded Morton and our support and I hope we all bear that in mind.

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If it's a good game and they beat us fair and square, we should act graciously, but a repeat of Wednesday's performance would leave me too broken for it quite honestly.
mortonjag 2006-05-06 07:57:52
QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 6 2006, 07:55 AM) [snapback]133620[/snapback]

No, he pulled a hamstring shagging his long term girlfriend last night.

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So much for the Ton's state of the art training programme then tongue.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-06 08:01:28 Looks like we'll be driving through sunshine and showers up to a good sunny afternoon in the NE, but hitting rain on the way home if the BBC weather charts are correct-'I'll be SINGING in the rain'-I hope !
mortonjag 2006-05-06 08:14:26
QUOTE(Patg @ May 6 2006, 08:05 AM) [snapback]133630[/snapback]

cheers mortonja I got all the same storys dont think i know you if you know me come up say hi im the big fat guy with nike yellow top with 03 on it..

Cya up there mate ..

Cmon the Ton ...

Cheers Pat-I'll look out for you.
mortonjag 2006-05-07 07:31:41
QUOTE(Patg @ May 6 2006, 07:49 PM) [snapback]134287[/snapback]

I think we will all be back next season but today is hard to deal with . Dissapointment is all part of being a morton supporter.

Days like today make the good days all that sweeter.

I have been to cappielow with 9000-10000 and also under 1000 fans.

All we need to do is keep the head held high and enjoy our summer off.We have a great Pre Season to look forward to and I firmly believe next season we will romp the league.

The only difference in Morton fans I hope to see next year is the return of the singing to cappielow.it has been one of the quietest seasons I can remember.

So lets hold our heads high and I hope you enjoy you r summers

Scott Gillan

I think us older heads were kind of half expecting it anyway Pat. Nothing like the disappointment against Rangers at Hampden IMO.

It's a fresh start after a season where we really were cheated by the system, and we just have to get on with it.

By the way I spotted you near the end of the game yesterday, but we were stuck up at the back of the stand nearer the other goal.

Don't know how it took me so long, mind you. You DO stick out a mile ! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-07 07:39:54
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 6 2006, 08:04 PM) [snapback]134299[/snapback]

I was listening to the bald one on the way down from Edinburgh, and his argument that the playoffs are a good thing because it adds some excitement is a load of pish. How many fans have missed games in the last 6 weeks because of the meaningless games? More than the aggregate playoff attendances I'd reckon.

Jim Traynor for once was spot on. If there were only a couple of points in it, there might be an argument for the playoffs, but when one team is 13 points clear, the stupidity and injustice of turning the league into a cup tie is obvious. And especially when it all went down to a dodgy penalty.

Young is all mouth and no brain, (not uncommon among skunks). He takes a point-namely that Morton knew the rules and shouldn't complain. That should be the end of it, but when Jim Traynor sticks up for the old system, what's left of brain closes down, and mouth takes over.

What's the shelf life of one of Chic Young's 'friends'. I wonder.
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mortonjag 2006-05-07 10:26:36
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ May 6 2006, 06:23 PM) [snapback]134192[/snapback]

While I agree that sometimes Jim's tactical naievity has been a problem this season, he has got us 70 points, can't complain in that respect; but he needs to motivate the players more in the big games.

Couldn't agree more. The whole season seemed a roller coaster of games when the lads were 'up for it', and games when they almost looked like they wanted to lose.

Take the home game against Stirling, who at the time were the joke of the division. IMO there was NO preparation for that one, probably because we were to play Gretna on the Saturday-who should take the blame?

The biggest farce, of course, had to be Peterhead during the week. I'm not even going to speculate why the whole team except Greacen and maybe two others was totally fazed.

What I will say is that those are young boys-they need encouragement, guidance, and self belief, and that should DEFINITELY come from the manager-if they had had the right attitude on Wednesday, yesterday would have been totally different. They woke up too late-WHY. I don't like people just writing McInally off, but I equally object to those who think he's achieved when he hasn't.

Sadly we were so, so close again, and when it came to the death the team folded-great managers can motivate mediocre teams, but on Wednesday, Jim couldn't get anything from a full time squad 13 points to the good of their opponents.

I think Jim HAS done well for a relatively young man, totally inexperienced in management, and don't think we should make hasty changes. He can't be given all the blame, but for those who can see no wrong in him, he has FAILED to get us the promotion he promised.
mortonjag 2006-05-07 10:51:08
QUOTE(Patrick Bateman @ May 6 2006, 10:48 PM) [snapback]134429[/snapback]

This team would do well.......

...............................McGurn........................

Weatherson___Harding___Greacen___Devine
McAllister___Stevenson____McInnes___??????
_______________Lilley_____Linn__________
Which requires 4 immediate signings !

That's a damned good team on paper, but I really hope Spoonsy is given a shot up front again next season. It wouldn't cost that much to sign a competent right back or even just switch Davie McGregor into your team (on the right).

The way I see it is that he (Weatherson), was moved into defence to accommodate other signings after his scoring form had dipped, and he's never been tried back up front for any length of time.

The Ton fans have been girning and whining all season about our lack of a goalscorer, because the powers that be have stubbornly refused to use him to full advantage.
mortonjag 2006-05-07 20:40:36 Morton are potentially as big as, if not bigger than every non city based club in Scotland, and in those I include Livingstone and Inverness. I'm talking about potential fanbase which equates to income.

With prudent financial management the club could be entirely viable and profitable in the SPL.

The ups and downs of Scottish 'provincial' clubs are well documented, but the reasons for lack of sustained success are complex.

Morton may not, as stated, be a BIG club, but in Scotland we could easily be upsides of Caley, Falkirk, Kilmarnock, Dunfermline, and Livingstone, and currently both Dundee clubs.

There's no reason in my opinion to be negative. Things have unfortunately been slower than we hoped, but we've not gone backwards. I, for one, have no intention of wishing another few 'days in the sun'.

I want steady progress from now on-into the SPL in two or three seasons, and sustained success there.

mortonjag 2006-05-07 20:52:01
QUOTE(weiserbud @ May 7 2006, 08:43 PM) [snapback]135065[/snapback]

Dream on laugh.gif
This is better than "everybody hates Chris" for comedy

I take it that intelligent and informative remark is a reply to my assessment. The trouble with some of you younger fans is that you haven't a clue when it comes to financial, and demographic facts and figures, nor any knowledge of the Ton of the 60's and 70's.

Negativity is pointless-and I'm not dreaming. I watched the Ton when we were leading the old first division and playing great football. We have cuffed the Old Firm several times over the years. Frankly you've got a f*cking cheek to accuse me of dreaming without explaining YOUR take.
mortonjag 2006-05-07 22:19:59 Just read Standman's post, and I'm agreed, and glad of a couple of months to reflect. We're all hurting right now after a season of frustration which effectively became a capitulation, but that's in the past.

IF it's two up, and two down next time, we hopefully won't be needing any excuses. Does anybody know if that's been decided yet?
mortonjag 2006-05-08 06:47:51 Highest point-walking back to the car with my brother after we won at Raydale, and seeing the looks of disbelief on the Gretna fans faces-mind you nobody was chanting 'Mileson must go' ! sad.gif

Lowest point-definitely the miserable journey home on Wednesday-I had been so sure we couldn't blow it, and we did it big style. By Saturday I was prepared for anything, and was surprised how calm we both were on the journey home.
mortonjag 2006-05-08 06:51:32
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ May 7 2006, 10:22 PM) [snapback]135151[/snapback]

As a younger fan I understand that a fifth season in Division Two would almost certainly mean Morton reverting back to what we were once famously and even successfully for periods in the 60s/70s/80s - part-time status! I also understand that we might not be as tiny but mighty as those teams from the Stewart, Rooney eras etc. Players are currently payed for 52 weeks of the year, holidays - the off season in May/June) included. That wouldn't be the case if we went part-time and the squad size would have to cut that bit more along with the youth set-ups. The quality and ability of the club would be reduced.

I also understand that at present turnover at the club is effectively nil, Morton is currently operating at a loss, filled in by Douglas Rae and his band of wealthy directors and company. If our long term future which means a return to profitable status and playing at a higher level signing better players then we need Division One status.

Next season will see us aiming for the only automatic promotion slot, NOTHING else will be acceptable, McInally said it yesterday and he'll be made to stick by it. First Division football is no longer something that we have time to hold off of getting, its essential.

Hoodoos and bogeys have to be laid. We need to beat Peterhead at Balmoor if their still in this league, we need to take teams like Ayr apart and we need to have only one or two off days Winning the championship is acceptable, nothing else will do and we all know that, young fan or old! 50 years supporting Morton or 10.

Excellent post Bug-only one inaccuracy-the very existence of this thread proves that NOT everybody understands the pros and cons.
mortonjag 2006-05-08 07:06:53
QUOTE(arklesTON @ May 7 2006, 11:20 PM) [snapback]135185[/snapback]

Both the Dundee clubs are a lot bigger than Morton, and due to thier environs they will always be.

Inverclyde may have a population @ 80,000 but that includes Port Glasgow and Kilmacolm which are not big Morton supporting towns, and Greenock has more than its fair share of OF supporters too.

Morton are a big team in Greenock.

That's right, but as you know people are fickle-it's the very fact that the Ton have such a wide potential fan base that COULD make us more sucessful than ever before, especially in those days of easy transport.

Depending on our performance relative to Ayr, Kilmarnock, St. Mirren, AND to a lesser degree the OF, we could be pulling from Cowal, much of Renfrewshire, a large part of Ayrshire, and not insignificantly from greater Glasgow.

Kilmarnock is a good club to compare us with. It sits in its own corner of Ayrshire, relatively isolated in industrial and footballing terms, and geographically its fanbase is much more polarised-Kilmarnock itself probably accounting for about 75%, and the rest from all over the place, yet they trek to Rugby park because they get to see some decent football.

In terms of density of population in say the surrounding 15 miles, they have nothing like ours.
mortonjag 2006-05-08 07:21:06 cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ May 6 2006, 10:47 PM) [snapback]134425[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
I was that guy maybe I went ott a bit I was going to leave the park without saying anything but when all that ARSE licking Andy Andy I felt I had to respond. What has Andy McLaren brought to the team this season f-c- all you tell me out of 45 games this season how many games he has played well in bet you cannot get by your first 5 fingers. Then tell me how may games out of 45 he has ranted at the referee, ranted at opposing fans, fell out with teamates I would estimate nearly all when he should have been concentrating on the game. I cheered Morton right to the end of the game today but what I will not do is apolgise for a player who does not give 100% who probably picks up the biggest pay packet at Cappielow Oh and by the way I have been to the majority of games this season home and away.
I had the balls to face Andy and tell him what I thought of his contribution this season not slag him on this forum as I have been when I can't see who is slagging me off.
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You are pathetic, AND a liar to boot. You are also an arrogant c*nt IMO.

If you were so keen to make your point to Andy, you could have written to him at the club, or even waited after any game at Scapa and had a wee quiet chat as he came out.

Instead you behaved like a big wean in the heat of the moment, AND have the temerity to accuse Andy of the same biggrin.gif

McLaren has not been half the player in the last few months, but that doesn't mean he's not be trying. GROW UP.

Just saw your apology-decent think to do-my post was rather emotional too I suppose sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-08 07:41:27 WE KNOW HOW YOU'LL BE FEELING NEXT MONDAY MORNING laugh.gif

Please reconsider and bow out of Europe graciously, or move to Carlisle earlier than planned. Scottish football's already the laughing stock of the continent.
mortonjag 2006-05-09 07:19:29
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ May 8 2006, 10:40 PM) [snapback]135729[/snapback]

If Partick dont get promoted then they will change it.

JB.

I imagine they are now thinking exactly along those lines. My understanding is that the prime motivators were the first division establishment who wanted at least the Ton or Partick promoted for understandably selfish reasons. Now the idiots have shot themselves in the foot, and I'd love to see Peterhead sicken them completely-sorry Jags!
mortonjag 2006-05-09 07:38:02 You are all entitled to your opinions, BUT Gre£na FC is a joke-that's a FACT

A village team in the back door to Europe through a lucky series of cup draws, and Rangers' bad season, funded by an attention seeking millionaire masquerading as philanthropist.

He BOUGHT promotion, thereby denying the Ton, and who really can guarantee we'll make it next season. GRETNA HAVE HURT US mad.gif

Now they've been pumped up by a gleeful shower of lazy hacks, and the gullible public are 'living the dream'.

Thankfully it will ONLY be a dream unless Mileson gets his arse in gear and amalgamates with Carlisle or whatever.

I DO NOT grudge the good Gretna people the pleasure and fun-not in the slightest, but I resent the sheep mentality who perceive a shower of greedy mercenaries as miracle workers, and heap praise on their efforts.

What happened to the win bonus the twice Forfar gubbed you-was Mileson in the huff that day or something?

C'MON the TON

PS WE HAVE WON THE SCOTTISH CUP, AND BEEN RUNNERS UP IN BOTH THAT AND THE LEAGUE CUP, AND WE HAVE PLAYED IN EUROPE AGAINST CHELSEA.
mortonjag 2006-05-09 16:04:12
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ May 9 2006, 08:22 AM) [snapback]135802[/snapback]

Very sour grapes. A very sad posting full of self-justification. Good luck to Gretna. They've spent their money more wisely than we have and deserve their success. Even if the bubble does burst, which given the infrastructure he is pumping in I don't think will, the fans will have had a great time. I doubt that they'll beat Hearts, but stranger things have happened....

I've been saying exactly the same thing from the day the season started-nothing to do with sour grapes, and in contrast, I have absolute admiration for Peterhead despite what's happened.

You can only compare like with like, TAFKAC so how can you say they've spent their money more wisely than us. The truth is they've got a huge squad, pay SPL wages, and the bonuses are, arguably, obscene by second division standards-BOUGHT success in other words.

You say they deserve their success-nonsense-without Mileson there would be no success, and what did they do to deserve him?

A final point, I find it bizarre that so few Ton fans seem to realise what's going on. Mileson is NOT a Romanov, or Abramovic-sure those guys have similarities, but they bought going concerns.

Gre£na, in their present form, are huge loss makers, and without Mileson's backing, or an alternative fanbase, always will be. That to me is a joke. And I am stating fact Alibi, not abusing anybody. Not knowing them personally probably makes me MORE objective than you
mortonjag 2006-05-09 16:25:22 We probably need a midfield general far more than a striker. The 'failure to score goals' doesn't wash for me. We actually scored plenty of goals, but we blew too many matches-ultimately last Wednesday's-through lack of drive and self belief.
mortonjag 2006-05-10 07:35:32
QUOTE(JonaTon @ May 10 2006, 01:22 AM) [snapback]136278[/snapback]

I assume you are not quite clear on the meaning of the word 'fact'.
Yes and we are more like Gretna than anyone else in the second division. In subsequent seasons we have paid £50,000 for Alex Williams, £30,000 for Peter Weatherson and £100,000 (approx) for Chris Templeman. We have signed Andy McLaren and Derek Lilley from the SPL and are paying them decent wages. I would say that this, although not quite on the same scale, is an attempt like Gretna to 'buy' promotion. The only difference is we haven't managed to do it.

That IS a fact JonaTon and I am ABSOLUTELY clear of the meaning of the word.

We have done it, albeit on a not unprecedented scale in the lower divisions, in a justifiable attempt to re-establish ourselves in the higher echelons.

I do not object to wealth being put into the game.

Mileson could have put money into say even Q.of the S or Ayr United, let alone something bigger, and recreated a club with profitable potential, but chose to squander it on a flight of fancy. That to anyone with a wee bit of commonsense IS A JOKE.
mortonjag 2006-05-11 06:30:53
QUOTE(JonaTon @ May 10 2006, 07:19 PM) [snapback]136511[/snapback]

You obviously aren't. It is your opinion that Gretna are a joke, not a fact.

Oh and by the way what happened to Peterhead s***ting themsleves against us at Balmoor?

I'll answer your question first. If you were at Balmoor as I was, you'd have seen that Peterhead were nothing like the team we played on the Wednesday, and we had several corners and chances in the first half hour. They held out and gradually came more into the game. That, however, has f*ck all to do with Gretna, but you'll no doubt say that's just my opinion.

I notice that several posters have opposed mine. I won't be offensive, but ask you all to answer a simple question YES or NO.

Given the population of Gretna and the surrounding area, and that Gretna FC continues to play in the town or close by, will the club ever be financially self sufficient (that is, without subsidy from any source)?

If any of you answer YES, in MY OPINION you are a joke.
mortonjag 2006-05-11 07:14:13
QUOTE(JonaTon @ May 11 2006, 12:58 AM) [snapback]136737[/snapback]

Forzaton I sort of agree with your post but my gripe with the Connolly signing (if its turns out to be reality) is more to do with McInally's analysis that he is the only other signing we need (well that and the fact that he is almost 36 and not the type of striker we need)

If the club came out and said money is a bit tight and that we can only afford to bring in a couple of players I'd understand , but they haven't. McInally's statements seem to suggest that he doesn't think we need to buy other players for other positions.

We're agreed on something-that's good. We do NOT need a striker nearly as much as midfield stability, confidence, and consistency. With that in place the goals will come, and we won't throw so much away.

Either Jim is banking on the young midfield being much more able and mature within two or three months, or he's totally blinkered.

We clearly, and desperately, in my opinion, need a gritty, experienced midfield motivator-the 'take no prisoners' type who leads by example.
mortonjag 2006-05-11 08:12:41
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ May 11 2006, 08:00 AM) [snapback]136756[/snapback]

I think you'll find that there are very few Scottish clubs with any ambition that are financially self sufficient - not least Morton.
At least Gretna are making inroads into trying to build a support for the future - targeting over 100 local(ish) schools etc. Not to mention the trusts that Mileson has set up to fund the club once he's gone.

Do you think I don't know that! rolleyes.gif

Scottish football isn't exactly a money spinner even in the heavily populated areas.

You avoided an answer, but I'll read it as a NO.

Another Yes or No question. Given that Mileson is not an idiot, is all this investment in infrastructure, and courting of publicity and media interest innocent, or is the master plan to shift Gretna in its present form to a more viable situation-e.g. Carlisle?
mortonjag 2006-05-12 07:12:58
QUOTE(nach0king @ May 12 2006, 12:43 AM) [snapback]137187[/snapback]

I was surprised myself. He wouldn't have been my choice. However, that is what this voting mechanism came up with. Well done to him - I voted for him once or twice this season if memory serves biggrin.gif

Just after reading what LargsTON said, I'll add a few words. Nobody should feel at all obligated to contribute towards the cost of the trophy. I was planning on just paying for it myself until another forum user suggested that those who *want* to chip in can do so. To that end, I will be asking people interested in contributing to contact me privately (not yet, please - my PM box is almost full at the moment) so that people don't feel pressured to add "aye, me too" to a thread somewhere.

Also, if anyone has a suggestion for a better way towards voting for a POY next season, this would be a good place to discuss it. I dislike the "Who was the best player all year?" votes that appear in May because quite often achievements at the start of the season are overlooked. I was thinking maybe of having 4 votes over the course of the season, which will give a clearer picture than voting after every match would, but wouldn't be a May vote that's heavily biased towards the end of the campaign. Any other ideas?

POTY is most fair if it is a reflection of each MOTM throughout the season IMO.

People have short memories, and individual biases, but I've noticed that the weekly choices are usually fairly clear cut-somebody stands out for the majority.

That, I think, is also why Chris thoroughly deserved this after an extremely frustrating season as midfield odd job boy. I know he's not eveybody's cup of tea, but he's done more than his share of hard work.
mortonjag 2006-05-12 07:22:51
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ May 11 2006, 11:10 PM) [snapback]137138[/snapback]

Why can't you find something positive to say? It's a great achievment by Gretna and they did it on the park.Good luck Gretna,enjoy the ride!

Well I didn't exactly expect them to do it in your back garden 44TT

You and most of the other posters on this thread are either stupid and gullible, or just at the wind up.

Gretna have only achieved what Mileson paid for-I guess Schumacker in a Ferrari will always beat you in your family car.

And to TAFKAK, sometimes you talk pure pish-how can you possibly equate a village to an industrial town in terms of potential self sufficiency? biggrin.gif

Anyhow it's not sour grapes, but it's anger-not at Mileson-he'll get his come uppance-but at my fellow Ton supporters who are sycophantically licking his arse.

JAMBOS WILL WIN EASILY
mortonjag 2006-05-15 07:21:23
QUOTE(big B @ May 13 2006, 11:23 AM) [snapback]137831[/snapback]

Well the 1st Division in Crisis is that not just great. Now the chairmen of the 1st division are s-i-i-g themselves who voted for the play-offs have realized they have made a massive mistake. No 800-1000 Morton fans twice next season possibly the same if Partick Thistle don't go up. Well they have made their beds I hope they enjoy sleeping in them they have all tried to feather thier own nests now I hope they enjoy sleeping with the white elephants that will join them.

Good post-but the b*stards got out of jail with the Partick result.

So Morton and Berwick who 'won' promotion didn't get it, and Alloa, who should have been relegated have escaped.

In some ways poor Peterhead have the biggest gripe-they beat Partick in our division, and then the Blue Toon were robbed by them after they beat us on merit.

Oh well, what exciting away journeys we'll have to Stranraer, Brechin, Peterhead, Cowdenbeath, Forfar etc.next time mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-15 07:35:51
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ May 13 2006, 04:53 PM) [snapback]137901[/snapback]

1-1 after 90 mins - you truely do know it all.

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You TRULY can't spell, so why should anybody listen to your opinions?

Gretna did themselves and Division 2 great credit-I admit it, and Heart were rather off form, but nothing changes my opinion about Mileson and the set up.

I'm not prepared to say more.

I DO have a constructive view of what's going on-I may be wrong and only time will tell, but you mindless semi intelligent anonymities who are 'living the DREAM', are a serious risk to my mental health rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-16 07:18:16 There's nothing wrong in principle with signing an ageing striker for the lower divisions-in fact look at Sheringham-the point is that almost everybody seems to agree we need an experienced midfielder. I just don't think we can afford to gamble in that area-the boys we've got can be brilliant, but they're still young and form has been so inconsistent.

Derek Lilley has had a good season in a team with no wingers, and a frequently unproductive midfield, and I fail to see the need for Connolly.
mortonjag 2006-05-16 07:30:07 Why is there any speculation about how Gretna will do next season.

They will win at a canter- and according to some idiots on this forum do it 'on merit'.

SPL status is already guaranteed. In any other business the latter day Jesus-Mileson- would be referred to the monopolies and mergers commission.

Ferrari beats Reliant Robin-oh, and it won on merit-aye right.

Wonder how well he'll do if he starts having to pay REAL signing fees to compete at the top. Easy to blow 100 million if you're one of the genuine biggies! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-16 07:39:11
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ May 15 2006, 09:35 PM) [snapback]138819[/snapback]

If we can't win it this year, I don't know when we will. Of the other teams:

Morton look like retaining the team which finished second to Gretna and well ahead of the rest of the league. We have lost John Adam and might lose Jason Walker. Stevenson though, should be a better player than Adam and maybe provide the spark we need in midfield. Not too impressed with trying to sign Paddy Connelly given his age but then look at how long Owen Coyle and Craig Brewster managed to be effective. He might do us a turn for a season anyway and provide coaching for Jason (if he stays) and Kenny Mclean (who could be another Joe Harper). We should have the strongest squad in the league, especially if we can sort the goal famine out.

Peterhead
: Will probably still be strong opposition but I think they shot their bolt a bit this year and will not be as good - top four finish again

Stirling: depends on who they keep and summer signings. They are a confidence team and a lot depends on their start to the season

Brechin: probably a contender. Seemed to be much improved for the final games of the season. Would not expect them to be the force they were two years ago though

Stranraer: few players signed/re-signed and in turmoil following the loss of their manager. Cowboy is one of the favourites to take over and he might have a point to prove if he does

Alloa should be a better side than last year but will hopefully miss and not be able to easily replace Stevenson

Ayr will probably to lower top half again but continue to be our bogey team

Raith
have gone part time and I can'rt see them doing much

Forfar are in transition and may well struggle this year

Cowdenbeath - bit of an unknown quantity but did not impress in the cup earlier this year albeit with some better players missing. Might struggle at this level

TONsilitis, I like most of your posts, and while I agree generally, I just think it'll be another lottery. Nothing is guaranteed in the lower divisions, as we sadly know,(unless you're Gre£na of course).

I'm surprised at you comparing McLean to Harper-Joe was well ahead when he was three or four years younger, IMO, could head a ball far better, was almost two footed, and had much more physical presence despite his lack of inches. I rate Kenny highly, but see him more as a provider that out and out striker.
mortonjag 2006-05-16 13:55:18
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 16 2006, 08:32 AM) [snapback]138928[/snapback]

I can't see this going ahead without Morton being included - the morality of it is perhaps dubious though. On the other hand, morally we should have been in division 1 next season anyway, so I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it.

Why don't they just scrap the whole set up and revert to 2 big divisions as before 1974?

I think that's a damned good idea, and to me it makes commercial sense, and would add more interest and competition. Let's face it, average club incomes in the second and third divisions probably dont vary hugely, but a two division set up would do away with the boring play everybody four times, and there would be more incentive to be in the upper league.
mortonjag 2006-05-16 14:07:18
QUOTE(TaunTon @ May 15 2006, 07:43 PM) [snapback]138746[/snapback]

The FACT that you are a fcking mentalist is probably a bigger risk in the long run.

Not only are you incapable of spelling, but you clearly haven't a clue what a mentalist is son, unless of course, you intended to compliment me.

Once you've learned how to read properly, go and put your head in a dictionary instead of up your own wee arse sad.gif

Mileson clearly thrives on gullibility of which you appear archetypical.
mortonjag 2006-05-16 14:24:03
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 14 2006, 09:23 PM) [snapback]138491[/snapback]

Partick should be embarrassed to come out on the pitch next season - finished a poor 4th and then got lucky. I detest them and hope they get gubbed every week next season. Hope we get them in the cup and take 6 off them. The most undeserved promotion ever. Bunch of namby pamby 4rse bandits. Mind you, the media people will be coming in their pants, their darlings are back in the first. Phuck them.

Correction Alibi-their darlings-and yours, if some of your posts were genuine, were already promoted.

Iagree with your general emotions about Partick, but at least, like us, they are a viable proposition and not a f*cking joke.

It came as no surprise to me in a season of madness that 1st and 4th were promoted, but Partick played to the rules, and like it or not, WON promotion, rather than buying it.
mortonjag 2006-05-16 14:34:33
QUOTE(Vialli_No7 @ May 16 2006, 02:27 PM) [snapback]139070[/snapback]

I often wonder what someone like Mortonjag feels he actually achieves when he makes a post like that above .

So many issues so little time rolleyes.gif

I often wonder lots of things Vialli.

For example, I wonder why it seems fine for some posters to have a go at my opinions, and then get all hurt and huffy when I defend myself.

If your comment WAS only a comment that's OK by me.

If on the other hand there was some not so subtle innuendo, back off and deal with somebody of your own intellect. smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-16 14:45:48
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 16 2006, 08:29 AM) [snapback]138925[/snapback]

We will also be the "big boys", the fulltime team they will all want to beat.
In every game the opposition will raise their game against us just like the season before last. Where did we finish that season ? rolleyes.gif

Exactly-last season everybody expected to get beaten by Gre£na, and WANTED to beat Morton.

Next season will be no different, and unless we can get a wee bit of arrogance into the boys-'NO you're not f*cking beating US', we could lose out again.

Connolly certainly has age and experience, but we desperately, desperately need a 'general' at the heart of the team.
mortonjag 2006-05-16 14:53:04
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ May 15 2006, 04:36 PM) [snapback]138691[/snapback]

Wouldn't touch him if true

But we do need a pacy striker of that ilk!

Not more than we need a midfield provider with a cool head. We scored plenty of goals last season. Peterhead, before the playoffs, were lying third and half the division had scored more than them.

Let's face it, if you stick a couple of average guys up front, and they're getting plenty of chances from crossed and through balls they'll score a fair few.

I'd just love to see a decent winger (either side), and a midfielder with a finishing pass.
mortonjag 2006-05-16 14:57:35 Black and white with big hip pockets and Wm. Armstrong on the back seems to scare the opposition.
mortonjag 2006-05-16 15:09:40 We've all got our favourites and villains, but the season's over, and in my opinion, it was attitude more than anything that failed us.

Who were the real successes-Spartans if you ask me-they consistently played above themselves in the cup, and only failed at the last gasp when the midden kicked them off the park, more physically than otherwise.

You can plan tactics all week, but you don't know what the other lineup will be, or be certain how they will play. If you go out there with a wee bit of skill, and a big bit of self belief, you've won half the battle already.
mortonjag 2006-05-16 15:11:33
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 16 2006, 03:07 PM) [snapback]139097[/snapback]

Trumpet

Fancy a duet?
mortonjag 2006-05-16 15:12:52
QUOTE(Vialli_No7 @ May 16 2006, 02:58 PM) [snapback]139089[/snapback]

Where's that ignore button? sad.gif

Good, another wee fanny cops out.
mortonjag 2006-05-16 15:32:58
QUOTE(TaunTon @ May 16 2006, 03:27 PM) [snapback]139118[/snapback]

blah blah blah blah blah blah ad nauseum.

This is nothing to do with Mileson, it is however everything to do with you.

Dress up your jealousy and bile any way you like but it still comes back to the fact that you are a pathetic runt. Perhaps some counselling will help you deal with your issues smile.gif

p.s. and try not to call me son. The thought of you being a father is way beyond the pale.

TaunTon, have I upset you or something? smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-16 15:36:04
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 16 2006, 03:21 PM) [snapback]139114[/snapback]

How, you offering to blow my trumpet?

Slapper.

If it's up to the quality of your posts, I wouldn't get a tune. sad.gif

mortonjag 2006-05-16 15:50:45
QUOTE(AJCTON @ May 16 2006, 03:06 PM) [snapback]139096[/snapback]

this probably wont happen, not part of the sfl and not part of the spl, what about cup comps and then even before that there will be the court of that I am in no doubt, would love to be up but only for the right reasons and not to the detrement of other teams position. Morton ARE too big to be languishing in the 2nd division, we need the first and now it needs us for revenue, no sponsor so now what do we do?

lets make up our own league and what happens to one of the teams that are part of this if they go down, will they go in a huff and take thier ball with them and want to break away again because things aint gone thier way.

its a fn shambles

I agree with you it is a f*cking shambles. Berwick denied a promotion they merited, like ourselves, and just when the dickhead originators of the playoffs were about to get it in the face, Peterhead blew it too.

It's a bitter pill to swallow having to travel to Peterhead, Stranraer, Brechin etc., and I know we 'threw' promotion' two seasons in a row, but then a combination of Gre£na and playoffs in one season was almost too much to take, and here we are, back where we started.

Quite honestly, I couldn't care less if they move the goalposts in our favour this time. I'm sick to death of the s***ey lower divisions, and would even suggest we'd have done better in relative terms if we'd been in the 1st last time.
mortonjag 2006-05-16 16:04:42 Simply that-I think I've made my feelings pretty clear on the other forum. I'm not talking here about the merits or otherwise of the team or management, but just wonder how you all perceive Brooks?
mortonjag 2006-05-16 16:31:49
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 16 2006, 04:16 PM) [snapback]139138[/snapback]

laugh.gif laugh.gif

At least you tried.

So you you know how to blow a good trumpet do you. wink.gif

Yes smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-17 06:23:07
QUOTE(le_chien_de_la_vialasse @ May 16 2006, 05:33 PM) [snapback]139186[/snapback]

that axe you're grinding must be down to the size of a small knife by now, mortonjag.

who gives a flying f*** at a rolling doughnut.

It would be nice if you would explain your statements, and your name. You are obviously some kind of dog, but what, or where is 'la vialasse'? If it's a place, should it not have capital letters?

So far several posters have agreed that the 'Dream', will probably end up just that-and from the word 'go', I've tried to make it clear that that's what I abhor about the whole scenario.

I was heading to Scapa for the first game of the season last year, and my brother and I were laughing because we couldn't remember whether he was Miles Brookson or Brooks Mileson.

Hopefully in another couple of seasons the name will have faded into the past, or Brooks will have turned his attention to a viable football proposition, and if he does I wish him the best of luck.
mortonjag 2006-05-17 07:13:46
QUOTE(fishy_ton @ May 17 2006, 06:58 AM) [snapback]139412[/snapback]

Mortonjag, you just come across as petty and bitter? The guy is doing what all fans(well a lot) would do if they had the cash and time. So what if it all fades away or totally implodes. It is money and positive publicity for scottish football......long may he continue!

Is there anything wrong with bitterness. At least I'm not a sycophantic 'Yes Mr Mileson' sheep, as most of the press and half of our posters appear to be.

To satisfy his own 'dream', and aided and abetted by a muddle headed SFL administration, he has stolen our chance of promotion.

Petty-perhaps, but I disagree. He's entitled to spend his money any way he chooses, provided it's legal, but surely that begs a question-where does legitimate business competition begin and end?

If you own a supermarket chain for example, you can't just outbid everybody else and swallow up a competitor-you are scrutinised by the monopolies commission, but Brooks Mileson seems to be able to do whatever he likes.

As for positive publicity for Scottish football-you must be joking-we're probably a bigger laugh than ever now down South and on the continent. We've already achieved nothing of note since 1967 and now Gre£na are about to arrive in all their glory!!!!!
mortonjag 2006-05-17 07:21:34
QUOTE(forza ton @ May 16 2006, 05:46 PM) [snapback]139191[/snapback]

cops out? only of listening to you mortonjag. not having a go but you do seem to have a lot of very contrary views and a somewhat crude way of getting them across tongue.gif

Contrary views are the backbone of a forum like this-I'm not ashamed of that forza.

I respect other opinions when they are thought out and genuine.

I do not respect posters who attack me indiscriminately just because they don't like what I write, and I'll continue to reply to them in a 'Tit for tat' way.

If they can't stand the heat they can get out of the kitchen. smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-17 07:30:03 John's been with us for the same time as Chris Millar, and he hasn't broken through here for a number of reasons.

Alongside the right team mates he can be a real asset to another division 2 club next season, and I wish him the best of luck.
mortonjag 2006-05-17 10:22:37 IMO we'd be daft to spend any money on another striker, given that cash is limited.

I honestly thought our defence was shaping up reasonably well, but Weatherson playing there became something of a sacred cow. The boy is an excellent striker on form.

I think the paramount need is presence in midfield-in fact I'd rather spend ALL the available money on a classy, experienced and consistent midfield player than gamble on two or three additions.

I believe, and have believed for three seasons, that that would have secured us promotion.
mortonjag 2006-05-17 11:28:55
QUOTE(fishy_ton @ May 17 2006, 09:27 AM) [snapback]139446[/snapback]

Work with loads of English fans from all over that stinker of a country, most season ticket holders with major Premiership clubs, and everyone of them sees Gretna's success as excellant. Reminds them of the way the FA Cup used to be.

Fishy-it HAS been positive publicity in the sense that so many people have jumped on the 'living the dream' bandwagon. I've no problem with that-everybody loves an underdog, but come the inevitable demise of Gretna FC, (unless they are subsidised for ever), people will ultimately see the selfish side of this apparently philanthropic venture.
mortonjag 2006-05-17 11:41:04
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 17 2006, 11:22 AM) [snapback]139466[/snapback]

we need a scorer

Bryan-Lilley, Templeman, McLaren, Walker, and for me primarily Spoonsy ARE scorers-why do we need another?

Scorers don't get goals because of WHO they are-they get them from the guys who do the build up and supply work, and that was sadly missing last time.
mortonjag 2006-05-17 11:46:06
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ May 17 2006, 11:22 AM) [snapback]139467[/snapback]

It's not that easy to predict how well other teams will do. Brechin had just come down from the first when they won the title last time so they're in the same position as then with a well run and well organised club, similar to Peterhead who should also do well. Also some of the teams who have come up from the second have excelled, Stranraer, Gretna, Peterhead, so can we count Cowdenbeath out?

We will be seen as an even bigger scalp than usual, the only full time team, with a large fan base and resources beyond the rest. In fact you could argue there's a bigger gap in that respect than between Gretna and ourselves. Teams will use that as motivation and I would bet Jim Stewart will have the cutting of Jim McInally's prediction ready to stick on the dressing room wall already. Stewart plays the underdog card brilliantly and our manager's done part of his work for him already.

I think our season will hinge not so much on our personnel as how our management and coaching team get the best out of them, and how we cope with the pressure of expectation. We must use our full time status to full advantage, with superior fitness, teamwork and set plays showing clearly as it did for Gretna. Players must also be given clearer roles and instructions, they look pretty lost at times.

As a start I would like to see:

1/ Players in as near their natural positions as possible.

2/ Stick to the game plan and keep their shape, make tactical adjustments but don't rearrange the whole team.

3/ Have a pre-arranged set piece plan and ensure the players are disciplined in sticking to the plan. E.g. Players who have proven inept at free kicks not allowed to be in the vicinity. (McLaughlin either insists in taking the free kick or stands menacingly close putting the preferred taker off, I'm disappointed in our manager for allowing this lack of discipline). Also have players showing for the ball from throw-ins and take them before the opposition are ready.

Most of all though, I want to see some way of ensuring we keep the ball down and play football. I think the best way to do this and the above would be to have an experienced pro in the middle of the park making sure the coaches' instructions are fully carried out. The best player for this job IMO would undoubtedly be Derek McInnes. Even as a youngster he refused to let anyone lump the ball up the park. We could get round the wage structure by bringing him in as a player coach and transferring the coaching onto the pitch.

I think if we can get the above in order and play entertaining and effective football, we'll see the fans turning up in good numbers and we should be good enough to win the league title.

DOT that was a helluva long way of saying 'Get a fit McInnes', but I agree with most of what you're about, and that one ingredient would have got us promotion last season-I'm certain of that.
mortonjag 2006-05-17 12:01:07
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 17 2006, 11:49 AM) [snapback]139494[/snapback]

If we sort the midfield we still need a striker beside Lilley. We have Stevenson, McLaren, Millar and McAlister to provide the chances we need someone to help Lilley.

Lets review the other strikers:-
Templeman - his heart isn't in it andwe don't have the right partner for him.
McLaren - he is a winger/attacking midfielder.
Walker - inconsistent
McLean - unprovan

Weatherson-wasted in defence-knocked them in for fun when he arrived, and absolutely NO reason why he can't do it again. Bryan, don't forget we did actually score lots of goals last season. Stupid defeats and draws were our bugbear-ultimately at Peterhead. We DESPERATELY need an 'old head' in midfield.
mortonjag 2006-05-17 12:13:28 Refused to watch another 'Soap', and probably it'll end up not half as true to life as 'Corrie'. It's nice that on this thread some people can see that Gre£na = Mileson, and without him will be nothing again.

All that stuff about involving a 'community' that's only about three times as big as his zoo is just pathetic IMO.
mortonjag 2006-05-17 12:30:53
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ May 17 2006, 12:06 PM) [snapback]139499[/snapback]

Who in the current Morton set-up are the sort of players who go the extra mile? Who do you think are the real winners and do almost anything to make sure that they win or who go off their nut when things are not going to plan? I honestly can not think of one who I believe meets these criteria. Any suggestions?

You don’t have to be the calibre of Roy Keane but to my mind you do need someone with that type of desire. I have mentioned it a few times but one of the things you notice when watching Morton is that they are very quiet on the park. Very rarely do you see someone taking control and pushing/ urging the team on. I would like to see that sort of player coming in; one who would put rockets up ar$e$ and get the players motivated. To my mind one of our biggest failings is that we don’t step up to the mark in the crunch games. It is alright saying that the League will be weaker without Gretna and that as a result we will get promoted. However, judging by the performance of the players in the last three years I have my doubts. We need a catalyst.

They spent half the season waiting for somebody else to make things happen on the park, and that's why we lost out. Excellent post HT, but no doubt you'll get blasted by the myopics who plague those boards. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-17 12:39:16 Law is made by humans and therefore fallible. Mind you they say 'the law is an ass'.

Human 'common sense' dictates that you save five fellows rather than one. Any law to the contrary was passed by idiots IMO.
mortonjag 2006-05-17 12:43:36
QUOTE(ThornTON @ May 17 2006, 12:35 PM) [snapback]139506[/snapback]

IMO Jamie Stevenston is the man to link the game up between the midfield asnd the forwards. He did it well with weaker players around him at the Wreck, and he will o it again this season for Morton.

He MIGHT be another Mcinnes ThornTON-I hope so, but the boy's only 21-he's got the physical presence and is a real grafter, but has he got what it takes to boot ass and motivate our lethargic talent?
mortonjag 2006-05-17 12:48:33 Quitongo's still in his early thirties, and a bit of a Peter Pan. I bet he'll bounce back again. I certainly loved to hate him as he was frequently a thorn in our flesh, but would welcome him with open arms on a 'free'.
mortonjag 2006-05-17 14:24:02
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ May 17 2006, 01:55 PM) [snapback]139545[/snapback]

That's you're opinion, it doesn't prove that he is wrong, and does something scare you about him being wrong?

IMO Peter has proved more useful as a defender than a forward since after 2 months after he arrived. He was mince up front this season.

Spoonsy has never had a proper chance up front since his goalscoring form dipped. The truth is that a couple of seasons ago Williams was top of the scorers in the league, and in no time Spoonsy overtook him-then everything went pear shaped at Scapa.

He is a fairly accomplished defender by second division standards-that is all IMO. What he CAN do even from defence is put the ball in the net, and the sooner he's back where he belongs the better for everybody.
mortonjag 2006-05-17 14:27:18
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 17 2006, 01:45 PM) [snapback]139540[/snapback]

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Bryan-have you got something about Jose, apart from his obvious colour. He's taken the piss out of us many a time, and is a menace running at defences, so what's so funny when you think of our lot in the last wee while? sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-17 14:31:35
QUOTE(1andymclaren @ May 17 2006, 02:28 PM) [snapback]139567[/snapback]

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Further evidence that you can't tell a forward when you see one, and though I've been a great admirer of Andy McLaren (I only mention this because of your screen name) frankly I'd rather have had Jose on than him in the last month or so. tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-17 14:37:15 To be honest, I know nothing of the details, but anything that moves us UP in status should be grabbed with open arms IMO. We've blown it three times in this division 2 s***heap-no money, no atmosphere, and everybody wanting to hump us, and we would actually do much better in the higher division.

I wouldn't care if we didn't win-it would just be nice to feel you were playing with your peers in terms of ability and fanbase.
mortonjag 2006-05-17 14:42:10
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ May 17 2006, 02:34 PM) [snapback]139577[/snapback]

Spoonsy has had plenty of chances up front since his form dipped. He had over a year and many appearance up front after his form dipped and he couldn't find his form again. The truth is if he wasn't converted into a defender he would no longer be at the club.

The latter might be correct, but what is wrong is your statement that he is a defender.
If he HAD moved elsewhere he would have had a fresh start, and would probably be banging them in again.
If you know much about football you'll admit that form can dip for a number of reasons, and can stay low for long periods. You'll also admit that on form Peter was scoring for fun. Defenders don't do that.
mortonjag 2006-05-17 14:50:05
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ May 17 2006, 02:32 PM) [snapback]139573[/snapback]

mad.gif You just don't miss a chance to get a kick in do you.

You really have some problems and must be the most irritating wee creep to ever write on a forum.

HonorTodd, That's a great post and I hope McInally reads it. I was wondering who you realistically would like to see brought in to do the job?

A 'kick in' --well I did see your specs in the avatar Soupy Fanny, but I wasn't referring to anyone in particular, and that's pure paranoia IMO.

All I did was suggest to HT that every time somebody says something sensible it gets criticised by the unthinking.

You've agreed with HT on the issue as I did, so what's your problem? Continuing to attack me indiscriminately like this is pointless, and I don't know whom you're trying to impress. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-17 14:55:03
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 17 2006, 02:50 PM) [snapback]139591[/snapback]

Firstly please retract the first statement.

hes utter s***e thats why i laughed

In your opinion Bryan-not mine-and although he's only from a wee country he was recently on International duty. I never thought for one minute you were racist, but now wonder about your vision. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-17 15:01:35
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 17 2006, 02:55 PM) [snapback]139597[/snapback]

is that a retraction of your comment

Well you normally seem very reasonable. I couldn't work out what you had against a talented player, and I merely asked you a question. People have various reasons for thinking somebody is 's***e' Bryan.
mortonjag 2006-05-17 15:03:42
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 17 2006, 02:43 PM) [snapback]139582[/snapback]

i can think of many that do tongue.gif

Defenders among the top scorers over the course of a season-name them.
mortonjag 2006-05-17 15:10:28
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ May 17 2006, 03:04 PM) [snapback]139608[/snapback]

Peter was the second top scorer at the club last season while putting in good solid performances at the back. IMO he is worth more in this role than he is as a striker whose form will often dip, like it did here and like it did while at QotS.

That's a fair point, but I disagree. By playing him in defence we lose his ability up front, and he hasn't had the chance to re-establish himself. No player is always on form, but Peter has matured a hell of a lot, and it seems crazy that some folk are crying out for yet another striker when he's already on our books.
mortonjag 2006-05-17 15:12:20
QUOTE(Bryan's Angry Lawyer @ May 17 2006, 03:08 PM) [snapback]139613[/snapback]

Mr Mortonjag please give my client an apology or we shall see you in court!

I'm no stranger to the courtroom BAL-look forward to it. smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-17 15:21:25
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ May 17 2006, 03:14 PM) [snapback]139622[/snapback]

ohmy.gif
Listen you wee creep, I'll put it as simply as possible for you. My problem with your comment was that instead of just agreeing with HT you antagonised anyone who may disagree with you by calling them "myopic".
-simple enough?
I think you are more than just weird I reckon you could be quite possibly a little disturbed and I'm serious. So it is for that reason that I'm going to bow out of this or any other discussion with you.

Dont bother replying.

Coming from an obviously manipulative and paranoid hysteric, that's rich. You told me once before you were bowing out, but couldn't resist coming back for more. If you've learned your lesson this time I'll be delighted, but I doubt it.

I'll also repeat an observation-you never make a constructive comment, or venture an original thought, so we'd probably be better off without you anyway.

Lovely to know you won't reply to that darling-oh and keep taking the pills smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-17 15:27:38
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 17 2006, 03:15 PM) [snapback]139623[/snapback]

Still no sorry

Bryan I am sorry that you misinterpreted my post. I did not mean to suggest you are a racist, nor did I think it, but given the high level of flippancy on those boards, I'm surprised you took it so personally.
mortonjag 2006-05-17 15:30:06
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 17 2006, 03:13 PM) [snapback]139621[/snapback]

John Anderson tongue.gif

Fair enough, that's one, and is HE also being played out of position?
mortonjag 2006-05-18 09:33:01
QUOTE(le_chien_de_la_vialasse @ May 17 2006, 11:25 PM) [snapback]139821[/snapback]

i think i'll be watching the world cup games on itv with the radio on.

what a pair of utter twats.

The sight is in end was followed only a few minutes later by 'It was only a matter of time'!!! sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-18 09:38:29
QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 17 2006, 09:55 PM) [snapback]139766[/snapback]

Stevenson's built like the side of a fiver from what I recall, certainly not the aggressive ball winner we're looking for.

He's actually very stocky LargsTON, maybe not quite a Billy Bremner, Nobby Stiles, or Bobby Collins, but although he's wee, he's very hard to shift off the ball.
mortonjag 2006-05-18 09:45:06 If it is just spend wisely on three players, I'd want an experienced midfielder-ideally a fit McInnes, a traditional no frills winger (either side)-just somebody to provide a regular supply of decent crosses, and a productive full back (either side)-Devine for example has impressed me a lot this season.

That combination would give a hell of a lot more flexibility, and with the right contacts shouldn't cost an arm and a leg.
mortonjag 2006-05-18 09:50:33
QUOTE(forza ton @ May 17 2006, 04:29 PM) [snapback]139665[/snapback]

ach f*** it what i meant to say was "U TALK A POWER OF s***E"

smile.gif

I like a man who knows his own mind !!

Well Forza, I guess one man's s***e is another's nectar-that's life on a forum mate rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-18 10:15:42 IF we manage to climb up to the SPL in the next year or two, we'll have much larger crowds and inevitable congestion at Cappielow-remember the Dundee United playoff for example.

Is there enough space to develop where we are, or should we be looking elsewhere?

Some of the so called modern Stadia are pretty soulless-Strathclyde Homes for example, but have good facilities.

I'd love to think I'd still be going through the Sinclair St turnstyles as I've done for longer than I care to remember, but I was just wondering what others think.
mortonjag 2006-05-18 12:33:12
QUOTE(farpost @ May 18 2006, 11:56 AM) [snapback]139918[/snapback]

Many, many years ago and before the terracing/cow shed and pre Hal Stewart days there was talk about turning the park round parallel with Sinclair St. (claiming the ground that is now A Clark's) to give us the facilty of 2 stands behind the current goals from around the current 18 yd lines and back, would this still be feasable? At least it would still be on the current site which is important to many of us.

That's interesting, and makes me wonder about the feasibility of using the car park area and the existing ground, if permission could be obtained to close Sinclair St. which is hardly a main artery.

That would surely give more than enough space for everything in one package, and we could still retain our identity and history.
mortonjag 2006-05-18 12:45:30
QUOTE(BubbaTON @ May 18 2006, 12:26 PM) [snapback]139923[/snapback]

some say we do, as our manager appears to have listened to this messageboard. wink.gif

I doubt if Jim does- but Jim, if you do, you MUST see there's an overwhelming call for an experienced midfielder.

You've a passion for fitness and have brought on a lot of good young talent, but it's painfully obvious that they frequently blew it because of the lack of a 'father figure' in the engine room.

A lot of posters are saying 'don't sign old men', but over the years I can't remember how many times the blend of youth and ageing players has won a watch, not least when Hal Stewart helped to drag us to the top of division 1 from the very arse of the old Div 2.
mortonjag 2006-05-18 13:36:10
QUOTE(Patrick Bateman @ May 18 2006, 01:25 PM) [snapback]139932[/snapback]

There's a few strikers though that would do a job here. McManus would fit the bill as already stated but if going for an older experienced player, Vareille caused a lot more trouble that Connelly, scored 15 goals in 32 games, is still only 31 and is also out of contract.

Good shout-Vareille has plenty of self belief, experience in the top grade, and would partner Lilley well IMO, but we still need an 'auld heid' in midfield.
mortonjag 2006-05-18 13:49:30 I honestly don't think higher admission prices would be a big deterrent at Scapa, IF there was something to come for.

People WILL pay for entertainment, and I for one, would rather see the boys playing well week in, week out, and ending up at or near the top of Div1, than having to suffer the weekly torture of being treated like Rangers or Celtic, by part timers who regularly raise their game against us, and play on s***ty wee parks miles from nowhere.

As for Thistle-they've got a tradition of bad luck, and this season that changed-you can't really blame them for 'man mind thyself' stuff IMO.
mortonjag 2006-05-18 14:04:25
QUOTE(piehutt @ May 18 2006, 01:54 PM) [snapback]139940[/snapback]

overhead restart (throw in)
powerplay (guy is injured)
overtime (extra time)
head strike (headed goal)

What the hell, piehutt, the game's already crazy, when a goalie can get sent off for a clumsy last minute lunge.

Boxers can still fight on covered in blood, but footballers have to get wrapped up like an Egyptian Mummy for a tiny wee head nick.

AND they have PLAYOFFS mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-19 06:20:00
QUOTE(JonaTon @ May 19 2006, 12:45 AM) [snapback]140126[/snapback]

Does that include the first half of 2003/04 when he was rattling them in up front ?

I agree-Spoonsy was, is, and always will be a striker. Sure players can adapt to different positions and put in a good shift, but Peter is a natural predator, and leopards don't change their spots.

After he rescued our credibility at Somerset earlier this year, a relieved Jim Mc was quoted in the press as saying his touch and finish were what Peter was all about, and then stuck him straight back in defence.

I'm getting slightly sick of hearing-'oh he's a great defender AND scores too'.

Weatherson is NOT a great defender. The lad is a competent all round footballer, who's been forced to take that role, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's really his second choice.

As Jona Ton has indicated, people have got such short memories, or is it more a matter of gullibility.

Get Spoonsy back up front where he belongs.
mortonjag 2006-05-19 06:59:37 When I was a kid you had to go to the circus to watch freaks! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-19 13:14:34
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ May 19 2006, 10:08 AM) [snapback]140177[/snapback]

The proof is undeniable, put Spoonsy at right back, centre half, midfield or centre forward, and he'll always score plenty of goals. He's got something like double figures playing right back ffs.

When Jim McInally throws him up front (e.g. Gretna at home) he's admitting he thinks Spoonsy will get into the positions and get the goals. Some think he's not so good up front now but you can't really expect him to settle in quickly when he's shifted around so much.

I don't think he's ideal at right back when under pressure, can be caught out of position and gets beaten for pace, and in possession he tends to hit too many long balls.

I say we all stop the pretence, get him up front where he belongs and keep him there, Alex Walker or Kevin Finlayson can do the right back job, or David McGregor if we sign a left back.

The Stirling Albion boy is great, if we got him or similar, Kev or David could compete for the no 2 jersey, leaving A. Walker in the midfield pool. That, Spoonsy up front with Del, and one seasoned general would leave the squad strong enough for promotion IMO-we don't need YET ANOTHER 'striker'.
mortonjag 2006-05-19 16:22:28 Given that there are only ten teams in the Bells' (as was) leagues, it's kind of hard to be 'stuck in the middle'. Take Stirling last season-rock bottom and almost made the playoffs, or Forfar, one time relegation certs who beat Gretna twice.

I suppose if we WERE languishing, with absolutely no chance of promotion, the crowds would drop, and I agree that the current set up is anything but financially rewarding, but we've just got to be positive.

If 'the Midden' can do it so can we, and that's realistic, and based on history-not 'sour grapes' as they deserved promotion.
mortonjag 2006-05-19 16:32:45 Opinion seems divided, and although several posters have been crying out for an experienced midfielder, there still seems to be a belief that another striker is the answer to our problems.

Remember I'm only talking about being able to buy ONE player.
mortonjag 2006-05-19 20:20:23 Douglas Rae deserves a wee mention for perseverence. I've no idea who might be off-I felt sorry for Chris Templeman last season, but he didn't cut it back at Brechin either, and will get a fresh start elsewhere IMO.

mortonjag 2006-05-19 20:28:14
QUOTE(le_chien_de_la_vialasse @ May 19 2006, 07:06 PM) [snapback]140312[/snapback]

'First Minister Jack McConnell was dismissed as a product of local government which was rich in "numpties"'

he's not wrong there.

Are you suggesting our First Minister is a 'Numptie'? That's pretty mild IMO mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-19 20:43:45 I'm older than TAFKAK and Alibi I guess.

If you'd have told me three years ago I'd watch s***e like that, and let's face it IT IS PURE UNADULTERATED s***E, I'd have laughed 'til I was blue in the face.

I can't believe it but now I'm totally hooked, and it's definitely the 'freak' element that fascinates me-are those REAL people?

I hate myself for allowing this, but can't switch off! sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-19 20:53:10
QUOTE(Savo @ May 19 2006, 08:34 PM) [snapback]140327[/snapback]

I think the 'pruning' Jim mentions might be about working out a deal with our big misfit up front. Fingers crossed, as the big chap has simply got to go in my opinion.

I think Jason Walker might be heading as well. If he has to think about it then that could indicate the deal he's been offered is similar to what was put in front of Bannerman and P.Walker a year ago (i.e. a contract which almost makes it obvious the club isn't really bothered whether you stay or not, and is instead happy take its chances in the market while you do likewise).

No malice intended towards Jason but, all things considered, I'd tend to back the manager if this is the case. We'll wait and see.

The only other one I can think of would be the goalkeeper John Stark. Is he still under contract? The last I heard he wasn't getting a game for the junior team he was sent on loan to. If true that would surely make him vulnerable as well.

Yes, I'd put Jason in the same category as John Adam-both talented young guys who didn't quite break through with us, and if he goes I wish him the best of luck, as like John, I reckon he was often undervalued and frequently had to play second fiddle to off form 'known names'.
mortonjag 2006-05-19 21:09:21 Last two posters either know Jason or beat me to GMFC.net!!!

Can we trust that frequently updated production though? biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-19 21:41:11 Let's face it fellow TONsters, any alien trying to 'sus' us out will access GMFC.net, not us.

Mileson has just shelled out a small fortune on a half page advert PRAISING Hearts. I can't stand the guy, but he does understand publicity.

I think our official web site is diabolical, and it's a shame because the set up, layout, and graphics flatter to deceive, but the content is-well-last year's !!!

When is somebody at Scapa going to get his arse in gear and start promoting Morton instead of 'Millions'? !!! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-19 21:46:59
QUOTE(axeman @ May 19 2006, 09:09 PM) [snapback]140342[/snapback]

The guy that does the TV reviews in The Sun today was talking about the sexual terrorist, he said does that make him a suicide bummer ? laugh.gif

Did you notice he claimed he'd tried to shag a corpse-and said he was in dead earnest? cool.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-19 21:51:16 Yep, it knocks the biological clock right out of rhythm, and I've always advocated summer football, but then how would we fill those long dark days of postponements to the pub? !!!!!
mortonjag 2006-05-19 21:53:53
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ May 19 2006, 09:47 PM) [snapback]140352[/snapback]

gmfc.net is wrong wink.gif

And if you doubt me ask Dacid MacGregor laugh.gif

Why?-because they call him DAVID? smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-19 22:12:26
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 19 2006, 09:54 PM) [snapback]140358[/snapback]

The article and the Lead Editorial were mixed.
Savo is bang on the money- .
read the mag.

Tom, the truth is that the most able Scottish politicians, (if the first adjective is ever applicable to such) are still at Westminster. 'Nuffsed' ? mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-19 22:18:20
QUOTE(mfc_millar_mfc @ May 19 2006, 10:13 PM) [snapback]140377[/snapback]

who actully is in charge of the site ?

Nobody on this one obviously! mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-19 22:39:58
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 19 2006, 10:19 PM) [snapback]140383[/snapback]

i knew u did wink.gif

Not sure about pictures-well-he does look like a lost wee boy to me-but he's certainly got talent and if we don't want it, somebody's gain will be our loss IMO sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-19 22:44:01
QUOTE(mfc_millar_mfc @ May 19 2006, 10:11 PM) [snapback]140374[/snapback]

Actully there not bad this year . . just last night it was really bad but hey the first night always is. I have seen a lot worse than this lot

Are you SERIOUS, tell me where. huh.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-19 23:15:43
QUOTE(mfc_millar_mfc @ May 19 2006, 10:55 PM) [snapback]140392[/snapback]

What you mean, i have seen a lot worse ? the celebrity ones are worse, well in my opinion they are anyways

I know what you mean, mfc, but at the end of the day, WHO goes on those shows-only c*nts 'on the make' IMO, so who gives a f*ck whether you've got the biggest tits in Britain, or are my favourite arsehole-yes Georgeous George-didn't he say it all? sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-19 23:19:49 HELP- what age is DACID-? Got to say I'm now Phukkyng konphused !
mortonjag 2006-05-19 23:34:21
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 19 2006, 11:24 PM) [snapback]140398[/snapback]

not only do i look at my jason pictures, i also play tennis. got a match tomorrow, i won my singles and doubles match last saturday. been playing for nearly 10 years.

Good on you-and for you I hope your Jason stays Princess. I also admire him (in a different way), but I've a feeling he'll be SERVING somebody else next season. Don't worry though, you've still got big GREACEN to make a PASS at ! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-19 23:36:42
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 19 2006, 11:34 PM) [snapback]140401[/snapback]

Bang on the money.

AGAIN !!!!!
mortonjag 2006-05-19 23:44:22 I've waited for two hours guys, since I started the thread. It honestly wasn't meant to be antagonistic, only provocative.

SO WHERE ARE THOSE PASSIONATE TON SUPPORTERS ON THE BOARD-PERCHANCE ELSEWHERE SUPPING ALE AND BOASTING OF THEIR WONDERFUL OFFICIAL WEB-SITE-c'mon-get real you wankers mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-19 23:48:30
QUOTE(Capuan @ May 19 2006, 11:40 PM) [snapback]140406[/snapback]

Look at it this way, we might even bring in another three or FORE players......

Dam, wrong sport. tongue.gif

If Dougie LETS us
mortonjag 2006-05-19 23:56:12
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 19 2006, 11:17 PM) [snapback]140395[/snapback]

it usually takes a couple of weeks to settle down in BB. all they do just now is talk over each other.

Can't believe I stayed on this and missed the fun-anything exciting P ? sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-20 00:01:07
QUOTE(Capuan @ May 19 2006, 11:55 PM) [snapback]140409[/snapback]

If not then we could always make a RACKET about it.
OK, I'll grab my coat....

Sorry to digress, but what was the NET profit of Gre£na last season ? mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-20 00:05:35 And Rowan's cradling Brooks to a lullaby tune-are you f*cking bonkers/ !!!!! mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-20 00:26:30
QUOTE(TaunTon @ May 20 2006, 12:08 AM) [snapback]140414[/snapback]

Sorry to keep you waiting laugh.gif

You may not have noticed but it's Friday night so most real people have got better things to do.

Anyway I'll resist the temptation to say anything to you MJ as I am trying to be nice to folk at the mo smile.gif

ps can you do more of them angry smilies - they have a soothing effect on me.

I love REAL people trying to be nice mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-20 00:30:36 Thanks-that was beautiful-and I MEAN it-brilliant guys.
mortonjag 2006-05-20 09:01:13
QUOTE(El gofer @ May 20 2006, 02:53 AM) [snapback]140449[/snapback]

Why dont we all just give it a rest for a couple of weeks.

The old season has just finished. I should imagine that the squad and management team may be contemplating a holiday with their nearest and dearest..........

Then we can sign : Devine stirling
the number 6 from Peterhead (Buchan?)
A striker ( cant think) not Linn apparently or McManus or Connelly so that leaves??????

Weatherson rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-20 09:18:23
QUOTE(le_chien_de_la_vialasse @ May 20 2006, 01:58 AM) [snapback]140433[/snapback]

either mortonjag's piles are playing up lately, or perhaps his marriage is going down the cludgie. who knows or cares?

anyway, the official site is a voluntary affair by a fellow supporter who is a professional web designer. however, the club dictate every detail of it's layout. the priority , apparently, is to allow relevant employees of the club to update their own sections without having to go through the webmaster. the webmaster has no control over when or if they choose to do so.

if you want to complain about it email the club. their address can be found on the official website

edit to add that the aforementioned employees of the club - or owner - are not particularly pc literate.

-and like keeping secrets-like the poodle of or from wherever or whatever!!

La Vialasse ??? comment-ou est ce-c'est quoi ???


Oh and the piles are behaving quite nicely, good phase for uranus as Russel would say.

And I'm happily divorced smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-20 09:32:29
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ May 20 2006, 08:59 AM) [snapback]140465[/snapback]

It's a very good piece, and its not too wide of the mark. Salmond is a pragmatist. Not sure if that makes him a great politician, but I can see where you are coming from.

'Daddy, what's a pragmatist?'

'Well son, it's a person who makes the most of opportunities and chances'.

'But Dad, you said Mr Salmond is one'.

Correct my boy, Mr Salmond is a chancer like most of the other nice people at Holyrood.
mortonjag 2006-05-20 09:45:01
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ May 20 2006, 08:56 AM) [snapback]140463[/snapback]

At no point have I said that other's shouldn't watch it. I just find it tedious, repititious and crass. So I'm not setting myself up as anything, especially not an arbiter of taste. However, I did ask a valid question and would be keen to see answers.

It's a loaded question, if not actually rhetorical. The inference is clearly that it adds nothing to yours, TAFKAK and it certainly comes over as disparaging of BB fans.

What DOES genuinely concern me is that those so called 'reality' shows may be seen as role models for our youngsters.

I'm old enough to see through the glitz and glamour. Most of the contestants are IMO very sad, and sometimes very sick psychologically, and are being exploited by unscrupulous TV magnates, but wide eyed youngsters may see them otherwise.
mortonjag 2006-05-20 09:47:26
QUOTE(se65an @ May 20 2006, 09:39 AM) [snapback]140475[/snapback]

Was it not only this year that gays can get married, ffs that hell of a quick to get a divorce through as well.

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mortonjag 2006-05-22 09:28:30
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 20 2006, 11:49 PM) [snapback]140667[/snapback]

You're a fanny.

Coming from you BH I'll take that as a compliment.

I would have thought that at least one member of a board of directors apparently dedicated to the TON, might use our wee forum, but the silence has been deafening.

The fact is that in this day and age, our web site seems as antiquated as the floodlights at Scapa, and it just isn't good enough IMO.
mortonjag 2006-05-22 09:46:34
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ May 22 2006, 08:02 AM) [snapback]140906[/snapback]

It is a genuine question. I'm always open to new things. I watched the first big brother, which I thought was good - it was original and wasn't used as a freakshow. I just think that it has gone downhill steadily since then. I used to hate opera until someone explained what was going on and took me to see Madame Butterfly.

I agree with both of your other points. Its the exploitation of the contestants that worries me the most.

Fair enough, but it's all on a sliding scale of taste. The fact that you liked the first BB would be scorned by many.

I entirely agree it's a 'freak show' now, but even the crusty Victorians paid money to see those-all part of humanity.
mortonjag 2006-05-22 10:21:10
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 20 2006, 05:20 PM) [snapback]140564[/snapback]

i think its the best this year, shahbaz is brilliant...hes so funny

I disagree-laughable-not funny. We've had plenty of interesting and funny 'Gays' on those shows. Guys who added something to them.

The man is, as another contestant put it, an embarrassment to the Gay community AND to Glasgow IMO

He is the freak among freaks.

If it was all just gainful behaviour the best of luck to him, but I have it on good authority that he's exactly like that in real life.

Very sad when you think about it, and he doesn't have a hope in hell of winning.
mortonjag 2006-05-22 11:58:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 22 2006, 10:09 AM) [snapback]140925[/snapback]

Have all the light bulbs in the Cappielow floodlights been checked and changed as necessary ??

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Rather more frequently than the web site is updated NewTon, unlike your Granpa's pal, the floodlights are not allowed to rust in peace, but they certainly need replacing.
mortonjag 2006-05-22 12:03:22
QUOTE(edd @ May 22 2006, 11:58 AM) [snapback]140936[/snapback]

but surely scotland qualifying for the U19s euro finals for the first time in 20 years can only be a good thing? who cares which clubs the players come from?

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mortonjag 2006-05-22 13:18:07 I can't understand why Alex Walker seems so popular 'for the chop'.

He's still young, and on form has shown ability, and he didn't cost us a fortune.

I feel sorry for him. Not only did he fail to get a regular spot, but when he did he was played out of position as often as not.

What does that do for anybody's confidence?

As for McLaren, I find that a much harder call. When Andy arrived he was an inspiration, and several posters have agreed that it was just too late to get us promotion.

This season his form has been mediocre, and latterly, when we needed him most, he was pretty anonymous.

Despite admiring his ability, and his courage in dealing with his problems, we could pay two other good players at 2d division level what Andy is getting in wages, and IMO he'll really have to justify his salary if he's to stay next season.
mortonjag 2006-05-22 14:08:26
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ May 22 2006, 01:59 PM) [snapback]140966[/snapback]

I voted for an experienced midfielder, and the one I would sign is Derek McInnes. They say you get no guarantees with any new signing, however I'm sure Derek would be the leader we're looking for, he would ensure that coaching was carried into matches, the ball would be kept on the deck and the whole team would benefit.

My target too. If we could guarantee his fitness he'd be ideal, and a superb role model. He's got all the attributes that have been absent in midfield.
mortonjag 2006-05-22 14:13:17
QUOTE(Graeme @ May 22 2006, 01:47 PM) [snapback]140964[/snapback]

so who are the ones for the chop then, lets spill.

Would have to say Templeman is the best bet, would assume he gets a pretty heafty wage and to get him of the wage bill could possibly free up finance for two players. I see Montrose are going full time next season, maybe Mr Templeman would be interested.

Dean Keenan, I can't see him breaking into the top team anytime soon so would say he needs to be freed.

Second half of Season Lilley and McLaren were awful but I would say we must keep them as if we look at McLarens assists and Lilleys goal scoring it is decent figures, just need a swift boot in the arse.

John Stark Might face the chop?!? Out on loan at the Juniors and with Gonet and McGurn signed up it could be bye bye.

I thought Vialli grafted away to the best of his ability to be honest-he just lacked a player to link with, and I still this he and Spoonsy would be superb together once they started to gel, AND if they got a decent supply.
mortonjag 2006-05-22 20:24:26
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ May 22 2006, 03:39 PM) [snapback]140985[/snapback]

Giving your all is much appreciated but isn't the same as being a winner. Having a bit of composure when under pressure to put a telling ball in or slot it in the net is what we've lacked in any crucial game over the last 3 seasons. There was plenty of effort in the play-off games against Peterhead, but collectively we lost our shape, and individually we had no composure.

I'm not sure the players are given the right message regarding a winning mentality. There is a suggestion to me that having a small squad and keeping the players involved or "happy" is a bigger priority than promotion.

I've said it on other threads but I think we need someone like Derek McInnes to get a grip of things on the park and make sure Morton's ambitions come first above keeping player's in their comfort zone. Too many of them seem quite happy with their contributions to our mediocre achievements.

Exactly-it wasn't so much that nobody was trying last season-more that everybody was looking to somebody else to really MAKE THINGS HAPPEN, and that's what players like McInnes can do. And although experience is important, that quality's either there or it's not. Big Greacen-fine guy I'm sure-nuffsed.
mortonjag 2006-05-22 20:32:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 22 2006, 08:00 PM) [snapback]141061[/snapback]

Well, puggs, if it's still there and you haven't seen it, could I suggest a visit to your favourite optometrist ?

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It still exists as the original exterior-converted to a block of modern flats called 'Luma House', after the manufacturer of the bulbs.

The internal close stairways and landings are made of hollowed out glass bricks, (I don't know if they were part of the original factory) and when you're on the top landing you can see all the way to the bottom-quite scary-almost like standing on the top board of a diving pool.
mortonjag 2006-05-22 20:43:15 Apparently Paul recently, in a last ditch attempt to save the marriage, bought Heather a brand new 'state of the art' plane.

She uses Immac on the other side.
mortonjag 2006-05-22 20:47:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 22 2006, 08:39 PM) [snapback]141079[/snapback]

Thanks for that mortonjag.

Was I correct that it was near the Rootes factory or is my memory shot ?

It's further East, NewTon, between Renfrew and Govan (or Braehead and the Southern General) to be more precise. You might be getting mixed up with the old India tyre factory at Inchinnan.
mortonjag 2006-05-23 07:20:03
QUOTE(Savo @ May 22 2006, 09:29 PM) [snapback]141098[/snapback]

To my own surprise, I have reservations about the much proposed return of Derek.

I was a massive fan of his throughout his time at Cappielow. I still believe he is an excellent professional who can pass on valuable advice to the younger players we have.

The problem is that I am very sceptical about how it would all turn out. Would we just end up paying well over the odds for someone who's best days are gone? Would the memories just end up tarnished?

The big question for me is will we be getting someone who can talk a good game in the dressing room now, rather than the inspirational midfielder who would throw himself into challenges, play imaginative passes and dictate the flow of play like he used to? That's what concerns me.

Derek is a very honest player and I actually wonder what his own answer would be to that.

It's a case of weighing things up. Will he be able to stay injury-free? What would he cost in wages? Is there anyone else available who we might want to think about instead, who might be better placed to still do it where it counts, i.e. out on the pitch?

I think we might have lessons to learn from our past forays into this type of transfer, and we should tread carefully here.

That's a good post Savo-lots of unanswered questions I agree, but I DO think that if Derek can remain injury free he can do a job for us at this level for two or three seasons.

Inspirational quality comes in different guises, and is as much psychology and body language as actual play.

Jim Baxter sometimes came over as (and was) a lazy big bastard, but he used to say to the others 'any trouble jist pass thi ba' tae me', and it's that type of gallus belief that we desperately need at Scapa right now.
mortonjag 2006-05-23 07:31:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2006, 01:49 AM) [snapback]141138[/snapback]

bigger is not necessarily better.

perhaps we need a brighter one ?

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are two lightbulbs better than one ? ?

Depends what you're doing, and how many sockets you've got, and if you've paid the 'lekky' bill and-- things ??? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-23 16:06:44 I only really remember Hagi playing when he was much younger.

He was extremely left footed, and certainly then, not very imposing physically, but obviously he's been able to 'cut it' at SPL level.

He makes good use of the left touchline and can get crosses over, but for anyone to suggest Craig would be the answer to our midfield problem is a joke.
mortonjag 2006-05-23 16:19:27
QUOTE(AyrAndy @ May 23 2006, 10:43 AM) [snapback]141196[/snapback]

We'll I'll remeber that if the sh1t hits the fan down Morton way again, you can forget the donations for or Ayr fans turning up to clear snow off pitches so that you get get a game on and get an income. What a pathetic statement.

Teams ability should be measured on the park not about the crowd you carry.

What's pathetic about it Andy-provincial teams like Morton, AND Ayr for that matter are viable in terms of fanbase, and what's been said is probably a reflection of majority opinion at Cappielow?

There are other clubs who for reasons of geography minus Mileson can never survive at a higher level, and there's no need to be sanctimonious-if the roles were reversed, the Ton fans would do exactly the same for you.

Teams' ability IS measured on the park-it's called a points system, or has something changed?
mortonjag 2006-05-23 16:25:28
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 23 2006, 04:09 PM) [snapback]141286[/snapback]

Craig if signed would play in the left back position, where he plays best.

Which, IMO, midTONs would be excellent for us-I was merely alluding to the title of the thread, and recent posts crying out for a 'McInnes' which Hagi is not.
mortonjag 2006-05-23 16:35:38
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 23 2006, 03:13 PM) [snapback]141262[/snapback]

do you think shabaz is really like that, or is he a good actor?

Word from the Glasgow club scene is that he always behaves like that and is universally detested.

He actually thinks he is extremely good at acting.

When I saw him nicking all the provisions last night I thought he was about to do a runner and open his own shop smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-23 18:51:44 Craig would serve us well as an attack minded left back-if anybody thinks we should sign him as, or instead of the midfield general we've been crying out for, I just can't understand it.
mortonjag 2006-05-23 19:02:10
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 23 2006, 04:38 PM) [snapback]141299[/snapback]

You a regular on the same club scene as Shahbaz then?

That second comment of yours is slightly racist. One Scotland, many cultures.

And by the same convoluted logic, your first is more than slightly homophobic.

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Seriously, BH, I know somebody who IS in on that scene, and by all accounts Shahbaz would find nothing too outrageous as long as it put him at the centre of attention-mind you I guess that's stating the obvious now.
mortonjag 2006-05-23 19:11:57
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ May 23 2006, 05:43 PM) [snapback]141347[/snapback]

I didn't say Scott "takes command" I said he "tries to takes command" which is obviously very different and detrimental to the team as it doesn't work. I agree Scott is committed but I feel he thinks he's something of a leader because he was with an SPL team, conveniently forgetting he couldn't get a game for the worst SPL team.

He wants to take command of the midfield and set pieces and as far as I can see is depriving better players in the team of doing these jobs. He doesn't look that hard a guy but must have some sort of clout as the players and manager just seem to stand aside and let it happen, much to my annoyance.

McLaughlin even has a laugh to himself when he wastes a free kick, which is 99% of the time. His role is as a holding player, and if he can't realise this is for the betterment of the team effort, I'd be happy to see him go.

I was delighted when Scott came back, as I was looking for improvement in a promising youngster. So far that has not happened. He does a power of work, but in my opinion is no more skilful, and in terms of creativity, Alex Walker puts him well in the shade IMO.
mortonjag 2006-05-24 08:09:25
QUOTE(porTONian @ May 23 2006, 11:32 PM) [snapback]141467[/snapback]

A bit of a back down there I think Gordon.

Firstly, you come on SHOUTING (and judging by your font) through a megaphone.

Secondly, have you noticed how long "wee"shops last in the town centre? Do you even have any idea what the rent for a unit in the Oak Mall would be? And I can tell you that it wouldn't be much less in any of the town centre streets. The club would have to lay-out quite a bit of money to stock and rent a shop. I for one would rather see that money spent on the team and/or the ground. The shop at Cappielow is well stocked (usually) for its size. You also answer your own complaint when you talk about the security at the ground about stocking the likes of crystal at the ground.

The reason we have played in the same home top could be because we have a contract with the manufacturer and they haven't come up with another design. OR, it could be that because an new away AND a third strip have been introduced the club or the manufacturer didn't think the introduction of a new first strip would have been viable. I do agree that the quality is not the best and I look forward to the new one.

P&P! Why should the club be responsible for this? Postage is becoming more and more expensive and would be a drain on the profits made by the club.I'm sure that even you would agree that this is the main aim of selling club related goods.

The explanation you have been given re. the policing at the ground was 100% correct. Morton pay a flat rate to the police no matter how many officers attend the games and Strathclyde Police DO use our games as training. On this matter I think the club are the winners. It cost them the same if we are playing one of the old firm in the Scottish Cup as it would if we were playing East Stirling in the Challenge.

As far as the car park and turnstile stewarding; I don't use the car park, so I can't comment however, I have noticed a few things at the turnstiles and have taken my complaints to the club directly and as far as I'm aware they have been acted on. i.e. there is one operator I have not seen back at Cappielow since I complained. Prior to my contact with the club, the said operator had ALWAYS been on the same gate.

I have other personal experience of the work that people do behind the scenes at Cappielow and allowing for the budget they have to work on they, on the whole do a great job.

There is nothing wrong wanting the best for the club but, we really need to accept that we are a second division club and as such we have to work on a second division budget. Having said that I'm sure the rest of the second division and some of the first don't have a set up like ours, we should be happy with what we have and I'm sure things will improve as our league status does.

That's a balanced and informed opinion, and I agree with most of what you say. At the moment Dougie is still buoying us up and we have to be financially prudent.

I find the wee club shop a friendly and happy place every time I go in. When I was down getting tickets recently, the lady behind the counter went to enormous trouble to try to get the right size of shirt for a customer's son for example, and they will order in anything that's not in stock.

Mind you, the selection of sweeties is-err-a wee bit monopolistic ! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-24 08:13:57 Sleazer makes me want to throw up-he's so f***ing smug and self satisfied.

I wouldn't be surprised if he turns out to be a closet gay.
mortonjag 2006-05-24 09:21:34 Given the relative national populations, this will be a huge advertising success for Nestle and their well-heeled advertising agents.

To be honest the Scots are so fond of their sweeties that I doubt if there will even be a drop in sales here.

When rape is inevitable and all that mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-24 09:55:22 We didn't hang about to get Jamie Stevenson, which I think is an astute addition to the squad.

Most of the posters have got their favourite targets, and frankly I don't give a toss whom we sign, as long as we get motivation and a will to win into the side.
I've said before, and still think one experienced midfield general would have got, and will get the present squad promotion.

I was just reading George Anderson in 'More Morton Greats', and he was talking about the great Bobby Collins, who had been the anchor man of a famous Leeds United side, before he came to us in the twilight of an outstanding career.

He was only five feet three or four, but he took NO prisoners, and what a motivator. Many more spring to mind in the same mould.

I agree with you about timing-there must be one or two of those guys around RIGHT NOW.
mortonjag 2006-05-24 10:02:49
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 24 2006, 09:59 AM) [snapback]141509[/snapback]

Diack was signed in may rolleyes.gif

I think most players we could be looking at could still be under contract till June 1st

Correct Bryan, but the contract doesn't prevent feelers being put out, so hopefully we'll all have big smiles in a week's time unsure.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-24 10:05:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 24 2006, 09:26 AM) [snapback]141492[/snapback]

just lie back and think of Engerlund !!

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mortonjag 2006-05-24 10:13:50 No harm in the SRC voicing their frustrations IMO, but the students are 'piggy in the middle' here.

I don't know the full details, but this reminds me of the Firemen's industrial action. I had great sympathy for their cause, but their ambitious leadership let the men down by going for an unattainable jackpot.

Universities are totally constrained by funding-there's no big secret pot somewhere. I think the lecturers should have a long hard reality check.

I support them in their aspirations, but can't condone shooting themselves in the foot.
mortonjag 2006-05-24 10:23:31 If ghosts are a paranormal manifestation of dead people- why are they so few and far between, or do they have a 'shelf life' as well ? sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-24 11:03:57 Far and away the most effective form of marketing is success on the field-and last year we blew it.

What's the point of making a few bob selling state of the art 2ND DIVISION tee shirts? (whether it's in the wee club shop, or on line).

I'm not against promoting the club, as long as it's to the first Division-pronto. mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-24 11:14:50
QUOTE(le_chien_de_la_vialasse @ May 24 2006, 11:07 AM) [snapback]141537[/snapback]

got an interview this afternoon, and am in the strange position of not knowing if i really want the job.

maybe that'll make me even more charming than i already am.

so let's hear yer interview tips

You've got nothing to lose then, and you shouldn't be too nervous. If they give you it, you can then tell them to 'stick it'.

Always make good eye contact with the person asking the immediate question-don't be distracted by others.

Think briefly before every answer-that creates a good impression, AND stops you blurting out something you might regret.

Don't go either under or overdressed-but DO wear a collar and tie.

Be sure to make them THINK you want the job, or they might lose interest.

Never be scared to say that you don't know something.

I can think of loads of others-good luck !
mortonjag 2006-05-24 11:26:24
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 24 2006, 11:08 AM) [snapback]141539[/snapback]

mortonjag if you read my post, you will see I'm not talking about a few t-shirts, I was also talking about (potentially) thousands of pounds of gate money, there is also other issues I have that for legal reasons I cannot and would not openly talk about on this board.

I wasn't disagreeing with any of your statements midTONs-they are valid, and your comments about loss of income are worrying, if unsurprising.

I simply think that it is so easy not to see the wood for trees, and the financial advantage of promotion to division one last season, would have heavily outweighed any current deficit in those other areas.

It's a kind of 'no win-no lose situation' as I see it at the moment. The club is loss making, so there is reluctance to spend more money, on areas that are not seen to guarantee any success on the field.

If we could just get the snowball started with promotion, hopefully those other aspects could be more easily sorted out.
mortonjag 2006-05-24 11:37:55
QUOTE(le_chien_de_la_vialasse @ May 24 2006, 11:28 AM) [snapback]141558[/snapback]

i don't put any of that crap on my body. and it's for the scottish executive, so i'll probably say, 'well, obviously i wish them all the best. i don't have a chip on my shoulder', with a wry smile playing about my lips.

Bowler hat, furled umbrella, and bow tie then, and if it's for that lot, DON'T say what you think-only what they want to hear-and believe me, I'm talking from experience, and not being flippant.
mortonjag 2006-05-24 11:43:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 24 2006, 11:40 AM) [snapback]141573[/snapback]

and a copy of The Times surely.

and Union Jack underpants

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over your trousers-and a big brown tongue etc., etc.,
mortonjag 2006-05-24 11:45:54
QUOTE(le_chien_de_la_vialasse @ May 24 2006, 11:42 AM) [snapback]141575[/snapback]

i know, i've done my research. i've got a list of seven 'core competencies' which i have to prove i have by telling a story (!) about something i've done. i don't think they'll have time at the interview to actually ask me anything about myself.

and going by the job description and the amount of paperwork i've had to fill in, not to mention the background checks, you'd think i was goin for the position of president of the world.

ach well.

That's not up for grabs 'til Bushboy quits or somebody shoots him!
mortonjag 2006-05-24 11:54:18 If all else fails tell them you support the Ton-it won't necessarily guarantee you the job, but the smiles on their faces will be the first genuine expressions you see-and stranger things have happened mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-24 12:00:24
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 24 2006, 08:59 AM) [snapback]141486[/snapback]

my dad thought he was gay on the night he came into the house. rolleyes.gif

Well, if past shows are anything to go on, your Dad's probably right-time will tell Princess, but in my opinion, any woman who would let that thing bed her, wants her head looked! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-24 12:04:39
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ May 24 2006, 12:00 PM) [snapback]141584[/snapback]

Is it just me or do just about every club in Scotland except Morton seem to be involved in transfer activity at this time of year? There seem to be daily newspaper articles reporting the signing activities of clubs throughout the divisions, and we seem to be out of the picture.

I realise part of this could be down to a few of our players being on long term contracts, and part of the plan is to offload some of these to bring players in. There's also the point Paul LeGuen made that if you wait a few weeks then better offers may be available.

I don't think we should panic YET, but if we haven't landed a decent experienced midfielder in the next couple of weeks I'll be s***ting myself.
mortonjag 2006-05-24 12:06:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 24 2006, 12:01 PM) [snapback]141585[/snapback]

but, don't mention that you follow baseball.

With Mr Bonds, it is too controversial for civil servants.

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-who have even heard of it mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-24 12:15:33
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 24 2006, 12:10 PM) [snapback]141592[/snapback]

it IS too risky, mortonjag.

There are civil servants.

They may have pay TV and watch ESPN.

A tactical danger that Manky should avoid at all costs.

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possibly-but they're not REAL civil servants yet-this isn't Westminster we're talking about, my man, no, not by a long chalk!!
mortonjag 2006-05-24 12:19:14
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 24 2006, 12:16 PM) [snapback]141598[/snapback]

Firing squad laugh.gif

Who's shooting-not big Sanny I hope ! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-24 12:21:44
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 24 2006, 12:18 PM) [snapback]141601[/snapback]

I'm also sure these machines are knocking out up to 100 regular pictures for about £6 or £7

That's true, but if you use your camera a lot, a decent photo quality printer will save you a fortune in a fairly short time.
mortonjag 2006-05-24 12:28:48 I wish they would slice it into bits and give us two weeks of sun followed by two of rain. I just can't stand this unpredictability.

You get up in the morning and Mr Sun's got his hat on. The minute you go out to play he f*cks off and his dismal mate arrives-bloody gestapo tactics if you ask me mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-24 12:35:59
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 24 2006, 12:30 PM) [snapback]141612[/snapback]

emigrate then

Out of the mouths of babes and sucklings indeed. You're right Bryan, and I easily could have thirty five years ago, and made a good living, but I chose to stay here, and I'm afraid I've burned my boats.

Still I get to watch the Ton every week, and there's the bus pass and cheap haircuts--- sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-24 12:38:19
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ May 24 2006, 12:37 PM) [snapback]141615[/snapback]

It's like winter today , torrential rain and very cold and dark.

I'm going a 100 mile walk starting tomorrow and if it doesn't improve then God and I will be having words.

God is deaf mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-24 12:43:43
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ May 24 2006, 12:39 PM) [snapback]141618[/snapback]

Not a chance.

I agree with MidTONs CC-as I suspect do the majority of law abiding citizens-yet I also agree with you.

What the f*ck's wrong with this society?
mortonjag 2006-05-24 12:45:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 24 2006, 12:25 PM) [snapback]141608[/snapback]

whit ?

I thought it was the SCOTTISH executive.

Could have a few free masons.

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stoned masons more likely
mortonjag 2006-05-24 12:55:13
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ May 24 2006, 12:44 PM) [snapback]141623[/snapback]

NEDS

with blades
mortonjag 2006-05-24 13:12:18
QUOTE(BasraTon @ May 24 2006, 01:08 PM) [snapback]141639[/snapback]

Who's God if ye dont mind me asking mellow.gif

I ask that question every day BT-I even ask HIM-but he obviously cannae hear rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-24 13:21:21
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ May 24 2006, 01:14 PM) [snapback]141647[/snapback]

my gf is christian she believes god listens and does stuff in his own little way.

i on the other hand believe he stopped listening to our petty request years ago.

my best friend thinks god died along time ago and thats y the world is falling to pieces.

im assuming these are opinions of any god.

I really hope I haven't started a theological debate here. If it works don't interfere with it I say-it's just that it never seems to work for me-but then that'll be my own fault I imagine-probably he's a Midden supporter or something -- oh well unsure.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-24 13:27:25
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ May 24 2006, 01:05 PM) [snapback]141636[/snapback]

The Lord Advocate made a statement just the other day saying that anyone caught with a bladed (potential) weapon and was charged would be remanded in custody until their Court appearance if new legislation was passed. This is a good idea. Might make a small percentage of the idiots who feel having a knife in their pocket when their out is as necessary as a mobile phone think twice - even though thinking sense at all can be a problem for them - about carrying one.

In terms of people binning their knives, that just isn't going to happen on any grand scale IMO and if were to happen there is no shortage of potential weapons. Through my work I see and have seen cases of many weird and wonderful makeshift weapons being used in violent and sometimes random crimes. Weapons aren't always specifically bought. Also, criminality is a culture, a cycle that a lot of people who have been involved in committing violent crimes and have been in prison for are caught in. Even if they bin their blade, even though these people probably know what they do or plan to do is wrong, if they want to strike out at someone again or for the first time their going to find another weapon.

If you mean a different weapon, that would be good.

You can do more damage with one thrust of a penknife, than a heavyweight boxer can do in ten rounds. Murder is frequently NOT the intention when somebody is stabbed, but is often the end result.
mortonjag 2006-05-24 13:35:53
QUOTE(SherrifFatman @ May 24 2006, 01:29 PM) [snapback]141663[/snapback]

Always try to crack a gag, odds are the person will laugh, no matter how bad it is.

My mate at his last interview (in a bank) -

Q - "So what are your strengths?"

A - " Music"

The fud got the job.

I tried this shortly afterwards as well

Q - "How do think people would describe you?"

A - "Tall"

Sh*t gag, but she laughed and i got the gig.
Kinda wish i didnt get it now, sh8thole that it is!!!!

Tell a joke at a Scottish Executive interview-they'll say 'We tell the jokes here', which of course should read 'We are ------ !! huh.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-24 14:14:18
QUOTE(LAFF @ May 24 2006, 01:56 PM) [snapback]141677[/snapback]

If he came his heart would be fully in it as I think he loves the club.

IMO I think we need 3 more players, a experienced LB (C.McPherson), a experienced CM (?) and a 15-20 goals a season CF (P.McManas or B.Linn)

Suda's got it spot on LAFF-it would be lovely to get all three players, but don't forget we had the second best defence and attack in the league last season.

It doesn't take a big stretch of the imagination to see why we lost out.

At risk of repeatedly repeating myself, one quality experienced midfield motivator would do the trick IMO, and I'd rather spend money on that than three second bests.
mortonjag 2006-05-24 14:15:49
QUOTE(LAFF @ May 24 2006, 02:02 PM) [snapback]141688[/snapback]

I feel we cant wait around till the last few weeks of the transfer window to see if we can sign someone but at the same time I dont want Jim going out know and going mental in the window then seeing a few weeks later a better player is avaiable(sp?).

Grab it if it's available-no guarantees of bargain basement remnants.
mortonjag 2006-05-24 14:23:20
QUOTE(piehutt @ May 24 2006, 02:11 PM) [snapback]141694[/snapback]

Dream Oak Tree is usually well imformed and knows his footy so perhaps Jim will not have plans to replace Mcgregor.

imo, McGregor has played well in LB and made it his own - mainly through consistency and through a lack of any other player likely to fill that role rather than outright brilliance. Still I am a McGrgor fan and hope the Hagi coming wouldn't mean an end to him being an ever present. (perhaps RB or even CB?)

Although some forrays up front with McAllister have looked promising - I think there is still room for improvement there despite a good defensive display.

Still, I think with McPhersons experience and being a natural left sided player he would be a good addition to the squad.

I don't know where people are getting all this midfielder nonsence from - we have signed Jamie Stevenson and I would be amazed if we sign any other midfield players. If we get McPherson we have the option of playing McGregor up the park a bit and Weatherson is always versatile. Plenty midfielders!

If McPherson comes he will give us basically any option down the left and can change to a 3-5-2, 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 with him as an option for most left sided places.

No way could we afford to knock back a decent left sided player if he's available.

piehutt, I don't know how old you are, and I think you normally talk a lot of good sense. I agree with all you say except the 'midfielder nonsense' bit.

What makes you think that the suggested additions would give our squad the necessary drive and belief so obviously lacking for three seasons?

It's been proved time after time that that quality can achieve more than just pure talent.

Partick Thistle were not a better side than us last season, nor were Peterhead, but they had something we sadly lacked. The game against Peterhead at Scapa was ours for the taking, for example, and we ran out like a crowd of frightened schoolboys.
mortonjag 2006-05-24 14:30:28
QUOTE(piehutt @ May 24 2006, 02:21 PM) [snapback]141698[/snapback]

I think we have seen our midfield signing in the form of Jamie Stevenson.

He has just had an amazing season with Alloa, scoring 22 goals in a team that was relegation fodder for most of the season and I can't wait to see him play in a Ton shirt.

He's maybe not a hard tacking midfielder but if he gets 20+ goals again we will walk the league imo, I'd rather have goals than tackles.

Everone seems to be banging on about this hard tackling midfielder that we must sign or we will never do anything next season. Remember how far ahead of other teams we are so with the current squad +1 or 2 players that are at least better than what we have we will be in a very strong position.

I wouldn't worry about anything yet - even if we didn't sign another player we will still be favourites for the league given how far ahead of the pack we finished last season.

You're totally missing the point-it doesn't need to be a 'hard tackling midfielder', but it must be somebody with presence, experience, and the ability to motivate. Stevenson is 21, and although I rate him highly, he hardly fills that bill.

You've cited his record last season-fine- but nobody complained about Chris Templeman's record either when he came here.
mortonjag 2006-05-24 15:05:31
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 24 2006, 02:52 PM) [snapback]141712[/snapback]

? ? ? ?

We are the jokers ??

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We are the JOKES !!!
mortonjag 2006-05-25 07:21:44
QUOTE(AyrAndy @ May 24 2006, 10:29 PM) [snapback]141902[/snapback]

Rumour on the Thistle website is Ryan Baldaccino (Sp ??) of Gretna is on his way to Morton, Gretna have signed some guy from Carlisle on a 3yr deal who plays in his position.

I wouldn't hold my breath for it Andy, PLUS signing a real winger sounds too sensible for Dougie and Jim, but then it would save getting the experienced midfielder we really need-sorry that sounds a bit harsh, but I'm just fed up with all the speculation and want to see something happening.
mortonjag 2006-05-25 07:27:03 Everybody knows that the form of footballers, and particularly strikers, ebbs and flows. I know nothing of the 'behind the scenes' stuff, only the facts.

Templeman is a proven prolific goal scorer at division 2 level, and we have the option of keeping him or letting his potential go elsewhere.

New season-handshakes and the past forgotten and all that-who knows?
mortonjag 2006-05-25 07:30:13
QUOTE(NorgieTon @ May 25 2006, 07:23 AM) [snapback]141980[/snapback]

G'd morning
"Muz" said he was talking, in the pub to the athlete's sorry "Pro footballers"
McPherson (Hagi) John Anderson and Alan Mahood.
Now whilst I don't know these guys personally, as does Muz, I have watched them play for Morton.
John Anderson, must have had a connection to get him into a Ton jersey, I don't remember him standing out in youth football at that time.
( I watched Neil McCann's age group every week) He (john) was passable but never destined to reach the heights.
Mahood- showed great promise as a teenager-had his chance at the big time when signed by Brian Clough , in retrospect he should maybe have stayed at the Ton for another season because he was too imature to hack it at Forrest, possibly too young to be away from home (people vary). However on his return to the Ton he only recaptured his previous form on half a dozen occasions, well rid.
Hagi, McPherson only played well spasmodically, never a first team regular; could on occasions be good , but only on occasions. He is talked up as being a full back, but he couldn't tackle a fish supper.
He is not the answer, as a full back or a midfielder.(He might have a lot of pals in the area) but let them pay his pension, not the Ton support.

NorgieTon

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I want the Ton to be a sucessful football club not an old mens club, there's one of those at the bus stance at the Port. dry.gif

Aye, and one at Raydale too-I agree in general that Hagi might be a gamble, but don't knock experience.
mortonjag 2006-05-25 07:41:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 24 2006, 07:25 PM) [snapback]141824[/snapback]

Gidday Manky,

Do you still live in Glasgow ?

Do many commute from Glasgow to Edinburgh ?

Very busy commuting route those days-regular trains, express buses, and of course cars. My daughter lives in Cowcaddens, and she used to walk to the bus station in ten minutes, do her studying on the bus , and be in Uni in Edinburgh in just over an hour. (reversing the process at night).
mortonjag 2006-05-25 08:05:09
QUOTE(NorgieTon @ May 25 2006, 07:41 AM) [snapback]141988[/snapback]

Unfortunately I have never seen James McPhake, he's never been playing when I've been over, so no opportunity to make a judgement.

I have however seen big Sannie, "Never be a footballer whilst his bum points towards the ground"

NorgieTon biggrin.gif biggrin.gif tongue.gif laugh.gif

When he was with Brechin he could obviously score goals standing on his head then. smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-25 14:07:43 The worst scenario is if Andy stays and plays like he did towards the end of the season when we really needed his ability, but on form he is fantastic.

Certainly if he is off, we could pay for that sadly lacking midfield general.
mortonjag 2006-05-25 14:12:30 Tell me which Ton player last season could put over a decent cross on a regular basis, apart from Andy McLaren-one of the reasons our strikers got slated by so many posters IMO.

I DO NOT want McPherson in preference to a midfield 'presence', but he can certainly use the left wing and get decent crosses over.
mortonjag 2006-05-25 14:18:23 If Chris IS off to St Johnstone-pure speculation I imagine-it will be interesting to see how he fares with a manager who knows how to utilise his players' strengths IMO.
mortonjag 2006-05-25 14:24:29
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 24 2006, 11:04 PM) [snapback]141917[/snapback]

dont think bonnie is to happy either. sad.gif

She is a dour faced wee bitch, and as thick as mince-it's got to be her or Welsh wimp for first genuine eviction IMO.
The only contestant so far with any substance is the Tourettes' boy and I really want him to win.
mortonjag 2006-05-25 14:37:33
QUOTE(Savo @ May 25 2006, 02:26 PM) [snapback]142121[/snapback]

That sounds very much to me like Derek Lilley.

St Johnstone were in for him at the beginning of last season and they just missed out. Lilley also still stays in a rather posh abode in Dunblane as well I believe? That would cut down the travelling for him.

On the subject of Andy McLaren, I wouldn't be bothered if he went now. Someone recently described him to me as "an imposter" and I had difficulty putting up a defence on his behalf against that accusation, to be perfectly frank.

I wouldn't be surprised if the manager has decided to have a rethink, try and shuffle the pack and go for less-heralded players.

Why would Del be off just to cut down travelling. He's still under contract and one player we would sadly miss IMO. There's no way we would release him unless we got a handsome financial payback.
mortonjag 2006-05-25 14:43:52
QUOTE(mr-big-stuff @ May 25 2006, 02:35 PM) [snapback]142128[/snapback]

dawns been kicked out for communicating with the outside world

Just heard that too-well with Shahbaz and Dawn away, they'll now introduce at least one new contestant-hopefully somebody that adds a bit of spice to this lot of generally boring and self satisfied nothings.
A Pete Burns type would suit me (Shahbaz minus personality disorder).
mortonjag 2006-05-25 14:47:25
QUOTE(Savo @ May 25 2006, 02:44 PM) [snapback]142135[/snapback]

Not necessarily. If it were Lilley then maybe it's a swap deal that has been mooted.

I say that because I don't see Geoff Brown shelling out money for a player...he prefers to spend his money on his horses I think.

All sheer speculation at this stage anyway.

That makes sense, but whom do you speculate, would be coming?
mortonjag 2006-05-25 14:51:26
QUOTE(BubbaTON @ May 25 2006, 02:47 PM) [snapback]142137[/snapback]

thinking new folk definetly one maybe two will be entering the BB house

started wiht 14 this year instead of 12 (i think that is the usual number) and with two leaving/chucked out in first week. They need to make up the numbers

How about the wee lady in your picture-it would be much nicer to watch her than what we've been subjected to so far-given that we DO have to watch them flaunt themselves half the time. cool.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-25 15:41:07
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ May 25 2006, 03:24 PM) [snapback]142152[/snapback]

What do Templeman, Lilley and McLaren have in common? They are all under contract to Morton. Now a contract is a two way thing so, unless there is a gross breach of club rules or the like, there is no way we can just bag them. Likewise, if a club came for them, its up to us whether to deal or not.

Personally, I would comment on these players as follows:

Templeman:

For me this guy does not look like a footballer. He does not have the athletic grace which all the best players have although he is a decent tanner ba' player. He has no pace for a striker and does not contribute much. He had a six month purple patch with Brechin and that seems to have been the sum total of his career. If a deal can be done to free up his wage, I would go for it.

McLaren:

A Dundee United fan said on Pie and Bovril last year that McLaren was a 'start of season' player. He would play well for a few games and then become increasingly anonymous. Thats just what happened last season and personally, I don't think we got a big enough return from him to justify his wages. Having said that, he provided more assists I think, than the rest of the team put together. I am neutral about him going. If his wage is spent on improving the team then I would be prepared to say thanks for the memories Andy!

Lilley:

I like Lilley and would be sorry to see him go. He is a great target man and if only we could get the right player alongside him, his knock downs could pay huge dividends. I also think he has not had great service and I am looking to Jamie Stevenson to improve that. On the other side, he has had a few howlers and games where he just looked as though he wished he was somewhere else. On balance though, I hope he stays.

I agree with you on the contracts issue.

My thoughts:

Sanny-not a graceful player I agree, almost an ugly duckling, but given the right players around him he is capable of more than just scoring goals, and in some ways can link up better than Del.

McLaren-not so much a start of season player as a guy who needs constant motivation. He was superb for us near the end of the season before last. Don't know what went wrong but I wouldn't write Andy off yet.

Del-spent almost the whole season grafting away on his own, with no real support, few crosses, and through balls a rarity, and he still knocked in a fair few.

With a decent strike partner, a traditional winger, and a subtle midfielder in the side, he'd probably have scored twice as many.
mortonjag 2006-05-25 16:06:08 What happened to that tartan sweetie advert-they seemed to wear it a couple of times and then it disappeared, and we ended up playing away games in Poundstretcher type white simmits.
mortonjag 2006-05-25 19:19:52
QUOTE(NorgieTon @ May 25 2006, 05:01 PM) [snapback]142187[/snapback]

Got to agree McPherson could put over a decent cross at least twice a game, on a good day three times.
Would players stand and watch whilst he got there to deliver it or would they be allowed to tackle him before he reached the halfway line.
Rather have Jim up the left and he's right footed.

Mind the Labour party could do with a left winger

So on a good day, that's three better than Jim-a player who's been overrated this season IMO. He has tremendous fitness and pace, no shortage of ability, and a brilliant work ethic, but gets totally lost up the left wing. If you actually analyse the 'END PRODUCT', he can't hold a candle to McLaren' or Millar.
mortonjag 2006-05-25 19:27:13
QUOTE(Muz @ May 25 2006, 05:58 PM) [snapback]142215[/snapback]

That referee booked him for f*** all. he didnt deserve that.

I agree Muz-there was a full thread on this after the game, and although opinions differed, almost everybody agreed Andy was hard done to.

Quite honestly that was a game which we had already won, and a couple of nasty Forfar tackles had gone virtually unnoticed.

Andy came on-retaliated to a blatant obstruction- and was IMMEDIATELY booked-the ref hadn't even spoken to him previously.

Iain-there were plenty of instances of crass stupidity by Andy earlier in the season-that was not one.
mortonjag 2006-05-25 19:38:15
QUOTE(ThornTON @ May 25 2006, 07:30 PM) [snapback]142242[/snapback]

Neil MacFarlane has signed for Gretna.

ThornTON-you've just spoilt my day, will all those blind b*stards who said last season that Mileson hadn't bought success please stand up and be counted.
mortonjag 2006-05-25 20:18:46
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 25 2006, 07:37 PM) [snapback]142244[/snapback]

boozehound PM who you heard it was, but my gut instinct tells me it will be 'wee Chris Miller'' cool.gif

edit to add - I believe St Johnstone need a right mid, not a striker.

I doubt if we'd let Millar go at this stage in his career unless we got a biggish financial reward/exchange.

I would like to see him with us next season, but allowed to play an attacking right sided role, instead of so often getting lost deep in midfield.
mortonjag 2006-05-25 20:20:48
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 25 2006, 08:19 PM) [snapback]142270[/snapback]

Cup competions next year will be a side show. Even if we make to any cup final.
The sole priority is the league. I couldn't care less if we went out in the first round of every cup competion !

If we're good enough to win the league, there's no reason why we should, but I agree.
mortonjag 2006-05-25 20:29:51 I can't believe that if they landed on the moon nearly forty years ago it hasn't been equalled or surpassed since. Technology is so much more advanced, and human ambition and internation jealousies have not changed. It was a monstrous spoof IMO.
mortonjag 2006-05-25 20:41:26 I don't watch the live BB-just the edits and I hope tonight's is better than the last-but I doubt it.

I'd love to see that smug Sleazer getting raped by somebody (preferably one of the guys), and running home to his doting mummy for a wee cuddle.
mortonjag 2006-05-25 23:01:54 Just watched it-huge yawn-honestly can hardly be bothered with the hassle of waiting for something to happen tomorrow-suddenly Shahbaz appears in a different light-obviously there's no panto without its villain. sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-26 07:16:38
QUOTE(Savo @ May 25 2006, 10:41 PM) [snapback]142334[/snapback]

Fair play to the optimists on this thread.

But I firmly believe the manager and chairman are preparing to jettison Chris Templeman, and that they will attempt to finally draw a line under the whole sorry episode and move forward.

I also have a feeling that, when they do eventually sit down with him, the player might not be particularly hard to deal with.

If he [does[/i] get a reprieve, then all I would say is that it would take the most astonishing turnaround in fortunes and form for him to salvage any sort of decent career here.

You sound like you've got inside information Savo, and if so fair enough-why not let us all into the secret. Anyhow, I entirely disagree with your latter comment.

For a player with big Chris's proven ability to go so 'off the boil' couldn't possibly be just down to one thing. My feeling is that the whole issue was handled, probably honestly, but extremely clumsily by ALL includuding Sanny himself.

That's why I stated what I did in my last post.

Contrary to what you say, with a fresh season and hopefully fresh thinking, it would take the most astonishing bad luck if things are not better for him this time. I don't see why it can't be at Scapa but if he goes, good luck to him.

mortonjag 2006-05-26 07:45:48
QUOTE(le_chien_de_la_vialasse @ May 25 2006, 10:39 PM) [snapback]142333[/snapback]

groan

What are YOU groaning about-I think your name is a conspiracy, and strongly suspect you are really a Persian Cat- and WHAT or where, I repeat, is la vialasse (if you didn't make it up ? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-26 07:49:12
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ May 26 2006, 07:38 AM) [snapback]142387[/snapback]

smile.gif yeah the the sun is really the same as the moon except its when god turns the light on....

the moon/sun is gods ligtbulb
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Correct - and going on the recent weather his lecky bill's unpaid. mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-26 10:33:45
QUOTE(mfc_millar_mfc @ May 26 2006, 10:26 AM) [snapback]142434[/snapback]

They are all gettin on now that Shabaz has left now and usually by this time in the [ast they have had a few fall outs and i think thats why its kinda boring this year.

I think it's more the blandness of the personalities-apart from Pete, and to a lesser degree the Canadian, the men are a total wash out.

Nicki and the wee Chinese are at least animated if thick, but again that's the lot IMO.

I frankly think they've f***ed up this year, and will almost certainly bring on a couple of substitutes to spice things up.
mortonjag 2006-05-26 10:41:17 The Scots do not support England.

In 1966 I was in London, heading off on holiday, and the place was full of Huns-the real ones-going to the world cup final. All my mates and myself, and every other Scot we met down there wanted Germany to win.

Bear in mind that in those days there was nothing like the 'hype' we get now.

Like most Scots, I've nothing against individual Englishmen, but I will NEVER subscribe to their over inflated self belief and arrogance in football matters.
mortonjag 2006-05-26 10:50:19
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 26 2006, 10:40 AM) [snapback]142443[/snapback]

i think they will bring on another shabaz type, but not quite as nutty! they are left with a bunch of nuggets, except richard and pete. ohmy.gif

George Galloway(whom I detest) and Pete Burns (who, I think, is a hoot) would soon have that lot tearing each other to shreds-we need at least one good trouble maker, and one devious conniver IMO !

The way it stands at the moment, wee Pete'll walk it by a country mile. well KIND OF walk it) rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-26 10:56:01
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ May 26 2006, 10:51 AM) [snapback]142451[/snapback]

I like to keep an eye on it on the net. Watching it and its various shows wastes too much time.

Pleasing to read that Imogen has given Sezer the elbow!

No wonder-if he was chocolate he'd eat himself-the wee self satisfied smile, the self indulgent chuckle, the eyes constantly checking where the cameras are and so on.

Make no mistake, he is a calculating sleaze bag, and I guess Imogen's rumbled him, and his true sexuality. tongue.gif

Mind you, she's not much better IMO
mortonjag 2006-05-26 11:07:37 I got this on good authority today, from a totally reliable source. McAlister's off.

Well, let's face it folks, a move's been on the cards for a wee while, and the boy'll be playing in the SPL at the age of 20.









































































































































































































































































































































































And if you believe that, you probably believe all the other rumours that are appearing here every day 'FROM RELIABLE SOURCES !!!!!!! mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-26 11:14:20
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 26 2006, 11:01 AM) [snapback]142457[/snapback]

get rid of him, get him off the wage bill and get a better player in, hes been rubbish ever since he signed for morton and i cant see him being any different next season..hes a waste of money, i wouldnt even put him in the greenock juniors team

You're just in the huff-Jason's a bloody good player too and if you watched the two of them together (I did a couple of times at reserve games) they linked very well, and IMO both suffered last season as a result of management/directorate policy.
mortonjag 2006-05-26 11:15:28
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ May 26 2006, 11:12 AM) [snapback]142464[/snapback]

You barsteward laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I nearly wet myself then

Point taken then! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-26 11:21:15
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 26 2006, 11:17 AM) [snapback]142469[/snapback]

my predictions are not rumours just a second sight wink.gif

Morton will play in a vanderal blue and white vertical striped strip (predicted weeks ago) tongue.gif

Wee Chris will be a St J'S next season. (pedicted yesterday) biggrin.gif

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Aye, and Dougie Rae will publicly come out and confess his illicit liaison wif 'Arfur' !

C'mon MidTONs-if you can't give sources stop playing games wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-26 11:31:45
QUOTE(Dave ClifTON @ May 26 2006, 11:25 AM) [snapback]142472[/snapback]

Fabtastic stuff here Morton fans.

I was just wondering, are there any legendary phone-in shows from the last 20 years on Scoddish radio that forum members have fond memories of.

I personally remember a great pirate DJ called Frank Rafael. He used to present a three hour education digest in my home hamlet of Hemsby, callers ended up talking about the repeal of Section 28 and other sex education issues. He sounded like an announcer on ITN too.

What about you guys? Any cool mems of phone-in DJs past?

'Tiger' Tim Stevens was very popular on Radio Clyde-the girls used to drool over him (aye literally as well), and that's going back a bit !
mortonjag 2006-05-26 11:37:10
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 26 2006, 11:33 AM) [snapback]142477[/snapback]

templeman has always been rubbish though

I'm not even going to do the thing about female logic-but he was far and away top scorer in the division at Brechin-oops, maybe I have princessTON wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-26 11:41:36
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ May 26 2006, 11:00 AM) [snapback]142455[/snapback]

There you go Chris, from BBC News

Glasgow Uni

Excellent-

'A spokesman for Glasgow University said IT understood------'

Presumably the BBC reporter went to a lesser institution! mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-26 14:14:31 Hindsight's a wonderful thing. If Andy had come to us a couple of games earlier we'd probably have got promotion before Gre£na and the playoffs arrived, and who knows where we, and he, would be now.

I think he needs a fresh start, and can still play at division I level if his motivation is there. Good luck Andy.
mortonjag 2006-05-26 14:23:49 Jason Walker is a perfectly competent player at division 2 level. Like so many other players, his form and confidence suffered last season because McInally's team choices were inconsistent, often inexplicable, and sometimes almost a joke IMO.

'Names' were given regular games, often out of position, when their form had dropped, and I don't think the poor players knew from one week to the next what was going on.

The fact is that in terms of time on the pitch, Jason's goal scoring record was actually very good, and unlike many, he always gives 100% effort.
mortonjag 2006-05-26 14:32:27
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 26 2006, 02:08 PM) [snapback]142590[/snapback]

All this worry about Millar, Weatherson etc. leaving makes me laugh.

These are the players who have failed to get us promotion three years in a row. If they go, they go. Life goes on.

Utter pish-if that's the case why don't we just clear out the whole lot and start from scratch.

Of the three you mention, Weatherson, a striker, was forced to opt for second best, Millar, a naturally attack minded, and rather lightweight right sided player was frequently stuck in the 'boilerhouse', and Lilley a proven striker had virtually no supply except from speculative long balls.

Those boys all played their hearts out BH. Given the squad we had, it was an inexperienced manager, possibly aided and abetted by a meddling chairman who failed to get us promotion IMO, and we shouldn't be wanting rid of any of them.
mortonjag 2006-05-26 14:36:43
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 26 2006, 02:31 PM) [snapback]142601[/snapback]

I await the Jason police laugh.gif

Well Bryan-produce the statistics, which are no doubt to hand. All I meant is that given that the boy was often put on for the last 20 mins or so when things were going badly, he had a habit of producing something for us.
mortonjag 2006-05-26 14:46:02
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ May 26 2006, 02:25 PM) [snapback]142598[/snapback]

I don't disagree Bryan but I think we can probably strengthen the team by more than we lose if his wage is wisely spent.

My worry now, on hearing the various rumours of players leaving is that on the striker front we are very short.

'Striker' seems to be the word that dominates those forums at the moment Tonsilitis-OK we may lose Vialli, Templeman, and Walker, but this IS the second division, and we don't exactly need a Ronaldhino.

I've said repeatedly that a journeyman centre forward will knock in plenty of goals if the supply's there.

I honestly wish people would stop concentrating on individual positions and turn their attention to attitude and application.

The only thing I KNOW we need is an experienced midfield driving force-the rest, I believe, would fall into place.
mortonjag 2006-05-26 14:52:53
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ May 26 2006, 02:43 PM) [snapback]142610[/snapback]

We have definitely lost Andy McLaren and John Adam. Now the rumour mill says that:

Lilley - rumoured to be going to St Johnstone
Jason Walker - apparently not happy and not re-signed
Weatherson - alledgedly attracting interest from two or three bigger clubs
Templeman - may not play for us again or if he does, will he be any good?
McPake - gone back to Livvy presumably
Miller - rumoured to be going to St Johnstone

Last year we scored 62 goals in all competitions and the players above got 53 of them. For me a susbstantial part of last year's team is potentially going and some of them might be hard to replace. If they all go we are going to need more than the forward and midfielder mentioned by Jim. I think about the only forward we will have left on the books is Kenny McLean

I agree it's concerning, but why the apparent unrest and desire to leave-to me it doesn't exactly smack of contentment at Scapa-OK it may just be about money, but I think that if things had been right behind the scenes, the boys would have been more settled, and we'd have promotion by now.
mortonjag 2006-05-26 14:57:16 I agree-and now that McLaren has gone, that becomes more valid, as money is available. We've got to get that experienced midfielder first mind you.
mortonjag 2006-05-26 20:10:28
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 26 2006, 06:22 PM) [snapback]142716[/snapback]

Good luck to him.

Wonder if he will go to another club!

I wouldn't be surprised if something's already in the pipeline. Andy's not daft.
mortonjag 2006-05-26 20:15:42
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 26 2006, 03:05 PM) [snapback]142640[/snapback]

1270 mins 5 goals....

Which, allowing for an average number of cup appearances would be at least 15 in a season for a boy who's hardly got more than a few chances at 90 minutes-not bad eh Bryan-lies, damned lies, and statistics-- etc !!! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-26 20:25:41
QUOTE(SramTon @ May 26 2006, 06:13 PM) [snapback]142713[/snapback]

I've said all along that Templeman's best when he's able to drop back a bit to get some space. Despite a lot of dross, he has had some good games for us and the common link was that he had more of a free role.

The departure of McLaren, who owned the luxury free-roaming role, may provide some flexibility for Templeman. It's a massive risk though to rely on Templeman turning it around.

I think if Templeman can return to his former career and pick up a part-time deal with the likes of Forfar then he's probably not going to be much worse off financially than he will be if he stays at Morton, which should make a settlement relatively easy. Will depend though on whether the player wants to go.

I watched Temps three seasons ago playing for Brechin against the Midden. I had expected to see an old fashioned striker, but instead there was this big gawky looking bloke who was drifting all over the place, linking well, putting over crosses, AND getting in two or three shots-not the boy we saw latterly at Scapa forced to play 'keepy uppy' in the penalty box as he waited for some support. Chris does not look the part but he is actually far more of a footballer than some think, and I have always believed he could do a job for us if used properly.
mortonjag 2006-05-26 20:28:44
QUOTE(El gofer @ May 26 2006, 06:28 PM) [snapback]142721[/snapback]

Norgieton what is the script?

I was in school with the Chris you speak of. He was a right good player, there were a few folk who I thought were stand outs in school and youth level. None of them made it really above local junior or amateur level.
It takes a bit more to make the level than talent. Guys like Anderson and Hagi were late starters from what I recall, aged 21, they developed as they got older, to the point that Hagi appears to have become a better player when he left Morton and big John's career in England suggests he is rated down there.

Less of the grand sweeping statements about boys 15 years ago. Incidentally the WEMYSS bay guy you speak of is a clear 3 years younger than Hagi and Anderson. Dont think he played with them.

Sensible post-when Joe Jordan left Cappielow he was still a raw wee boy who had done very little for us.
mortonjag 2006-05-27 09:01:06
QUOTE(JonaTon @ May 27 2006, 01:05 AM) [snapback]142927[/snapback]

I give a f***. An official website should at the very least have accurate information about the squad.

The Barrow fan coming on here asking questions about Morton is the exact example of why we should have an up to date and accurate website - to promote the club and if possible maybe sell a wee bit of merchandise along the way.

Eddie McDowell's old site was really good for match reports, pictures and line ups / statistics. I always use it to check out information about matches in the period the site was running. Without that there is virtually no where that a Morton fan can look for information about the club's results etc and be totally sure that it is accurate. In my opinion the official site should be at the very least doing this.

Apart from the decent innovations on that site (which are basically all Andy's doing - ideas on which the club freeload) it is crap and the club totally ignore it.

The potential of the commercial department and website have not been maximised since Douglas Rae took over at Morton. If only Hal Stewart was still around.

Exactly what I was getting at-WE know about greenockmorton.net, but it's the official site that outsiders access, often through links. The Barrow fan's experience is a classical example-in terms of its peers, the site is a disgrace.

Quite honestly, it's not good enough to make excuses about each author being responsible for individual input. The site is a commercial tool, and we have a commercial manager, so let's see something done pronto.
mortonjag 2006-05-27 09:09:15
QUOTE(dazza @ May 27 2006, 02:43 AM) [snapback]142952[/snapback]

he has had ample chances in his morton career and he continues to dissapoint when he starts ganes, i woul drather have paddy connelly than jason walker in the team , hes not good enough. I was sitting with an ex player/friend at the stirling game and he is of the same opinion, as are most people i know

You sound as though that means Jason supporters are wrong and you are right-I'd rather have Connolly too, but that doesn't make Jason bad, and like John Adam, Alex Walker, and to a lesser degree Kenny McLean, he's spent most of the season playing second fiddle to 'names' who ultimately failed to get us promotion.

Who dictates what are 'ample chances'?
mortonjag 2006-05-28 09:08:28 I really can't stand all the little do-gooders on here sorry for Brechin, Stranraer etc.

WE can't compete with the Old Firm in terms of wealth and fan base-do they feel sorry for us, or do they give a f*ck-and do we really care?

You can't deny facts-next season I'll be wasting petrol going to Aberdeenshire, Angus, Fife, Clackmannanshire, Stirlingshire, Ayrshire, and Wigtonshire-while the Midden laugh at us from the SPL---WHOOPYF*CKING DOO-can't wait for it.

Mind you this has to happen right now, and if the 6000 seater rule's fairly applied, Gre£na will be sent packing rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-28 15:01:39 Frankly I couldn't give a toss unless the changes are planned for 2006-2007.

As other posters are suggesting, the rules keep being changed anyway.

Does anybody on here want another season in this scummy division if we can avoid it? I say let's go for it while we can.
mortonjag 2006-05-28 19:30:01
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 28 2006, 05:56 PM) [snapback]143357[/snapback]

Is he still? The last I head he had had 2 knee ops (on same knee) but thought he was like Craig and considering coaching (or gaining their coaching badges from Largs).

What about John Maisano? biggrin.gif - see from NotW he has left Stranraer although Stirling Albion are looking into taking him.

A fit and motivated Maisano could have done a job for us last season IMO, but he's not the 'arse booting' influence we really need.
mortonjag 2006-05-28 19:46:56
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 26 2006, 11:45 AM) [snapback]142487[/snapback]

i get the feeling you dont like sezar. tongue.gif

I've never liked self satisfied 'mummy's boys', princess, and when as I suspect, he's a closet Gay or Bi as well, it makes me want to vomit.

Upfront Gays are fine by me- and if you think I'm talking s***e, why did he and Shahbaz hate each other so much ?
mortonjag 2006-05-28 19:55:00
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 28 2006, 07:46 PM) [snapback]143379[/snapback]

unsure.gif

Take it you didn't rate Maisano then Bryan-like the fans who used to chant his name at almost every game the season we got promoted. People have got short memories, and on this forum too many posters allow their hearts to rule their heads, without analysing players' contributions-the best recent example being Andy McLaren.
mortonjag 2006-05-28 20:07:10 It's all down to personal preference at the end of the day, but DON'T waste money on a new vehicle.

As Alibi suggests you'll find it hard to beat a German-my advice would be a BMW 5 series (saloon or estate). The 3 series is too wee for your needs. The 2.8 i engine makes it fast enough for fun, and the turbo diesels are economical and by no means sluggish.

There are plenty of cars to fit your bill, but don't forget reliability and longevity when you buy second hand.
mortonjag 2006-05-28 20:21:32
QUOTE(nach0king @ May 28 2006, 06:41 AM) [snapback]143248[/snapback]

Does it?

I know it damages the liver and in some cases the throat, but does it really damage the lungs? unsure.gif

Signed,

Liverless Throatsore

Alcohol doesn't seem to have any direct link with lung disease, but high intake aggravates existing illness-particularly conditions like emphysema.

It also makes people with respiratory conditions more vulnerable to pneumonia, and other less well known complications.
mortonjag 2006-05-28 20:24:18
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 28 2006, 08:21 PM) [snapback]143390[/snapback]

just heard that partick thistle have offered 20k for chris millar.

You are at the wind up ! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-28 20:29:48
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 28 2006, 08:26 PM) [snapback]143394[/snapback]

my mums just off the phone to someone who is usually a reliable source. wink.gif

If Thistle think he's good enough for the first division (and I do), they should be ashamed of themselves.

Who do they think they are-Mileson would probably shell out 50K just to have Chris on the bench IMO.
mortonjag 2006-05-28 20:34:48
QUOTE(edd @ May 28 2006, 03:07 PM) [snapback]143319[/snapback]

as i said before, if there is talk of invitations to join the SPL2 then that means the proposals are meant to be introduced in time for season 06/07. if they want to introduce the proposals for season 07/08 then they'll just tell us that the top two teams who meet the requirements will be invited to join after next season (if that's only us and raith anyway then so be it, but that is how they should talk about the invitations).

If you are sure of your facts edd-that's good news, but I wouldn't hold my breath for anything with those muddle headed fannies who robbed us of promotion in the first place.
mortonjag 2006-05-28 20:38:09 Ok, he shot himself in the foot this time, but it's that kind of attitude we'll need next season IMO.
mortonjag 2006-05-28 20:42:32 Oh well, it's on again soon-won't be able to look at Nikki in the same light since I discovered she shagged Pete (Docherty) !! huh.gif She certainly can pick 'em!

Any chance of it being more exciting tonight-I doubt it-but who knows? sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-29 07:34:19
QUOTE(edd @ May 29 2006, 01:20 AM) [snapback]143450[/snapback]

well i don't know any facts for definite, i only meant to say that talk of invitations for specific clubs could only logically be done if they are planning to introduce the breakaway league in time for season 06/07, since it would be outrageous to play a season knowing that there is no promotion based on league postition. i know the authorities in charge of scottish football seem incredibly stupid and always seem to get it wrong, but surely they aren't that stupid?

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mortonjag 2006-05-29 07:46:52
QUOTE(we8saints @ May 29 2006, 12:08 AM) [snapback]143440[/snapback]

Thought about the 5 series. 528 sport my preferred choice, also the Vectra SRI, I have a Vectra at the moment, really pleased with it, but looking for inspiration more than anything else. The Evo was a great suggestion, I have (mistakenly) slated boozehound on other threads, but the Evo is favoured, even if boozehound does hope it smells of fish, that this forum is pish, and whether or not I know the meaning of plagiarise!

keep the suggestions coming.

You tend to either like them or hate them, but you could do worse than a second hand Saab if you want to be a wee bit different.

Believe it or not, the current Saabs owe some of their origins to the old Vauxhaul Cavalier-the bodies and chassis were based on it.

The turbo units are well proven, and some of the Aero models go like stink.

You also get excellent primary and secondary safety, and they last well and hold their residuals. Because of that they're a wee bit pricey second hand, but for 10k you'll still get a nice 93.
mortonjag 2006-05-29 07:48:57
QUOTE(Jimmy's_sis @ May 28 2006, 09:11 PM) [snapback]143408[/snapback]

I watched the qualifying and couldn't believe what I was seeing. Strange if you ask me, which no one was but thouhgt I'd add it in.

Race went a bit lame once Kimi was out. Now that was an angry walk he had...

I think the anger was a ruse so he wouldn't get a row for jumping straight onto his yacht for 'champers'--poor little rich boy indeed ! cool.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-29 11:19:49 I didn't believe they would change anything for the coming season-looks like we'll just have to get on with it.

I do believe the general idea is good for the Ton in the long run, but we must secure promotion next season.
mortonjag 2006-05-29 11:27:18
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 29 2006, 10:33 AM) [snapback]143474[/snapback]

I don't think Saabs hold their value too well - you can pick them up pretty cheap when they're 3 years old. And their diesel engines (except the latest 1.9 version) aren't up to scratch - basically a General Motors diesel as in Vauxhalls and pretty rough.

I agree about the diesels-they've never been great-the residuals on the more upmarket models are fairly strong, if not in the Germanic league.

The main thing about Saabs though, Alibi, is that they're different, and they are incredibly comfortable to be in too.
mortonjag 2006-05-29 12:33:32
QUOTE(grace-records @ May 29 2006, 09:23 AM) [snapback]143468[/snapback]

The main weakness in the team is centre midfield. Therefore, whether Millar leaves or not the problem in the middle of the park needs to be addressed. If there is any truth whatsoever that Thistle offered £20k we should be taking it IMO.

Reading all the posts on this thread I think any rumour that Weatherson could be off is the most worrying. I think Spoonsy has developed into one of our best players (in a number of positions) and we have to make sure he stays.

I agree with the main thrust of your posts GR, but IF we get the man you and I have been crying out for, I believe Chris will be invaluable an an attacking right mid, so why should we let him go for relative peanuts. Sure if a bigger club (or a smaller one with more money mad.gif ), were to offer say 50k, I'd grab it, but the boy shouldn't be released at the first sign of shiny pennies.
mortonjag 2006-05-30 07:22:15
QUOTE(1andymclaren @ May 29 2006, 07:10 PM) [snapback]143554[/snapback]

rolleyes.gif

Finlayson couldn't get down the touchline to get crosses in because most times McLaren was playing in front of him, and i agree that the few times he did get there to put crosses in they were poor but had he been given more freedom down the right wing (which he couldn't get because of McLaren playing) and into a crossing position more often then his crossing will improve. I know a lot won't agree but i think Kevin could be very useful for us.

If Millar's worth 20k to Partick, Finlayson's probably worth about the same to Gre£na-I've kept my head down about super Kev most of the season since I was effectively gagged by his worshippers and their guide dogs, but what you state is so ridiculous I shouldn't be replying.

Aw the shame, nasty Andy kept getting in his way-at his best the man's a very useful headless chicken, and then only if he stays in his own half of the pitch.
mortonjag 2006-05-30 07:27:52
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ May 29 2006, 10:38 PM) [snapback]143581[/snapback]

I believe the medical term is a pre-op transexual!

Or 'Plastic in preparation' !! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-31 20:21:32 Yes-and THEY WON'T
mortonjag 2006-05-31 23:30:10
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ May 31 2006, 09:26 PM) [snapback]144035[/snapback]

Indeed.
Brechin may be coming down, but they won it comfortably two seasons ago and don't have the hindrance of DC as manager anymore.
Ayr will dust themselves down and revert to being our bogey side.
Stranraer - do we write them off?
Stirling were the only real form team other than Gretna, and Alloa were much improved from their early "start".
Cowdenbeath will not be the piece of p!ss that Dumbarton were.
Raith are hard to read, but were miles better in their final game against us.
And we still have 6 points to ship at Balmoor again. dry.gif

Basically, if we don't strenthen (and weaken instead) & anyone but us gets an early grip of the league then we may have to look forward to the play-offs again. unsure.gif

Precisely-I've thought for some time that we would in many ways have done BETTER up a division.

The 2nd is a nightmare, with everybody gunning for us. The squad had talent but no balls. In the 1st division, they'd have had a more level playing field, and less pressure.

Anyhow, I have it from an extremely reliable source that we are about to land a BIG, BIG, BIG, signing to solve our midfield woes-sorry I can't reveal my source as it's a WELL KNOWN NAME, oh, and a wee hint, it's not a player-but one clue-he wears size 13 Doc Martens. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-05-31 23:41:01
QUOTE(WillowMan @ May 31 2006, 11:23 PM) [snapback]144075[/snapback]

Throughout the season people post on here what they hear, whether it be fact or just a rumour.
Some even post just for the sake of posting and getting their post count up.

At the end of the day this is a fans forum and its a free to air site whether people agree with what's is being posted or not.

I'm not asking anyone to back me up / to believe me / or to belittle me.

I'm just posting what I've been informed.

Is that really such a crime ohmy.gif

No one is asking for anyone to comment on my posts so if you want to disregard it do so without trying to be a so called 'I told you so' he was talking mince.

I'm now being accused of One Upmanship. Some of those posting on here making / agreeing with these comments ought to take a good hard look at themselves.

I was the one several months ago who put my neck on the line and stated we wouldn't go up due to our playing style / player unrest and was accused of talking pish.

I offered a wholehearted apology if proved wrong.

I was shot down in flames and told it was a light switch job and we were just playing out the rest of the season until the play-offs.

Well one shot on target in 180mins of play-off footie doesn't suggest that to me.

So it proved to be correct about not going up due to our lack of tactics / style of play.

I didn't see an apology from those big enough to hide behind their alias and accuse me of talking crap at the time.

Player unrest - Mclaren / Adam, that we know about publicly, are the only ones that have said stuff this I'm standing up and being counted and I'm out of here.

Granted my timing of the post at the time may not have been the best but neither have other folks at times.

The above are facts not fiction, no matter how tinted your glasses are ohmy.gif

If our lack of tactics and style of play had been that bad we wouldn't have even got to the playoffs.

I agree with you, though, that they were a shambles, and posed a lot of questions, not just about the players.

Dick Campbell continually gets laughed at on this forum, but who's laughing now?

We have blown promotion twice in a row, and I confidently predict (since that seems to be the game), that unless our manager, or style of management is changed, we'll do the same again
mortonjag 2006-05-31 23:48:45
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 31 2006, 10:36 PM) [snapback]144049[/snapback]

god no its got to be sezar, the guy is a tool!

Tools are useful-that self indulgent freak actually believes he's going to win because all the girls will vote for him, yet he treats women like chattels.

I still wonder where he really puts his tool-sooner or later all will be revealed. smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-06-01 07:40:55 Brechin are becoming past masters of the art of Yo Yo.

Frankly I don't know why they bother-they are a homely wee club, realistic, and relatively unambitious, but they seem to target division 1 in the way we should the SPL.

OK their fans had a rotten season last time, but the year before they walked it, and this year-who knows?

By comparison we could and should be in a relative position one division up-constantly knocking at the door of, if not competing in the SPL.

I'm tired of all the rumour mongering-time will tell-but Brechin, as you say, have demonstrated like others that with the right players, the right blend, and most of all, the right attitude, division 2 can be won at a canter without spending a fortune.

mortonjag 2006-06-01 22:45:10 To be honest I couldn't really care who goes IF we get the right money and use it on experience and effort.

It's stimulating to watch the youngsters making good, but they lacked the drive and belief to get promotion anyway.

I know that Clyde didn't get promotion, and are currently the butt of adverse publicity, but look what was achieved there out of rejects and misfits who WANTED to prove something-e.g. against Celtic.

As for the rumours-they ARE only rumours until confirmed-good fun for those who find them funny I guess, and it does give us something to argue about.
mortonjag 2006-06-01 23:05:38 Apologies to the usual sycophants-ha, f*cking ha-Brechin are a SMALL club with a small fanbase. I praised them in my thread for what they have achieved, but facts are facts.

Some of you younger fans need to read 'More Morton Greats', where George Anderson states the Ton at one stage went to Ibrox and Parkhead not expecting to lose.

That WAS achieved at Greenock, and can be achieved again. Look at Motherwell or Kilmarnock, or Dunfermline, or Falkirk.

I'm as pissed off as the rest of you with our recent failures, but to start equating us to the Brechins or even worse Gretnas minus a Mileson, of the SFL is pure capitulation.

It's a two edged sword at the moment, a benevolent chairman has saved us from extinction, but his (possibly) continued meddling behind the scenes may have held us back from what we, and he most want.

Jim McInally is an extremely inexperienced manager, who hopefully will make good, but IMO he was the wrong man for the squad we had, and he had little chance to change things.

We need a decent blend of youth and experience next season, and a genuine will to win-is that so difficult to find, given our resources versus the rest?.
mortonjag 2006-06-01 23:16:38 The problem is that as long as Dougie is shelling out he can call the shots. I don't doubt his integrity, but it's maybe not now the best scenario for the club.

If we were profitable, I would imagine that decisions would reflect the concensus of a financially interested directorate, rather than the well intentioned meddlings of a benevolent autocrat.
mortonjag 2006-06-01 23:23:33
QUOTE(1andymclaren @ Jun 1 2006, 10:21 PM) [snapback]144382[/snapback]

It's only sad c'nts that watch this pish rolleyes.gif

Hello sad c*nt-or do you just assume it's 'pish' as you delve into your library of literary fodder for the self appointed intelligentsia?

Oh, and is pish worse than sh*te, or would it be politically incorrect to profer an opinion? wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-06-01 23:24:55
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jun 1 2006, 10:17 PM) [snapback]144378[/snapback]

I HATE SEZAR! mad.gif

He's off tomorrow-guaranteed if the polls are anything to go on-can't wait to see his wee face as he toddles back to 'Mums'.
mortonjag 2006-06-01 23:28:38
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 1 2006, 11:21 PM) [snapback]144401[/snapback]

Morton remind me of Hungarian people. It willl be done tomorrow huh.gif

I waited 4 days to get a computer and 5 days for them to set up a phone.and they had put through an urgent request for the stuff the previous week ohmy.gif

Maybe tomorrow we will here a bit more but I am no longer convinced as we have now joined the EU and a requirement of that is NOT to rush things.

A truck sat for 5hrs outside our stores waiting to get unloaded and even though I could see it the stores guys told me it wasnt there. Then they said dont worry about it as month end was over so offloading could wait ohmy.gif

Dougie please release a statement of some sort even if just to prove me wrong as I am on tender hooks awaiting the news I was told about. I just want it denied or confirmed, preferablz denied.

BTW How would you lot feel if Alex Walker signed for someone else wink.gif

Pleased for him, but IMO under a different set up he could have, and still could be a key player for us.
mortonjag 2006-06-01 23:50:24
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 1 2006, 11:36 PM) [snapback]144411[/snapback]

OK thats Alex Walker added to the list now. Anyone going to suggest Harding, McGregor, McLaughlin and Finlayson and then we have a full set!!

Its becoming laughable now!

Aye-I have it from an extremely reliable source-which of course I can't reveal, that super Kev is attracting interest from several SPL clubs, McLaughlin's back off to Livi, Harding has been linked with Gretna-oh and Davie McGregor's got a sore foot again-YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST laugh.gif
mortonjag 2006-06-01 23:56:11
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 1 2006, 11:48 PM) [snapback]144416[/snapback]

I am continually amazed at Brechins ability to have the odd good season and get promoted despite their low crowds and what must mean a lack of resources.

Dunno what they have for breakfast up that way but it certainly works. If ever there was an example that money doesn't always buy success then it can be found at Glebe Park.

I applaud that wee club!

Politically incorrect and patronising, according to some, but yes, I agree.
mortonjag 2006-06-02 00:01:10
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 1 2006, 11:59 PM) [snapback]144422[/snapback]

Don't think it is. Brechin themselves will admit that they are a small club and continually punch above their weight in Scottish football considering the resources they have.

Speak to boozehound then-he'll sort you out! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-06-02 00:04:06
QUOTE(1andymclaren @ Jun 1 2006, 11:34 PM) [snapback]144410[/snapback]

blink.gif

Judging by the expression on your face you HAVE been watching-c'mon out with it !!! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-06-02 00:17:38
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jun 1 2006, 08:30 AM) [snapback]144103[/snapback]

i think that any girl who fancies him wants their head looked, he is a big headed toss pot! i hope he gets the shock he deserves on friday night. unsure.gif

He will-make no mistake-he is, and has, a self damaged dickhead. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2006-06-02 00:21:01
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 1 2006, 09:20 PM) [snapback]144355[/snapback]

...is apparently proposed as a new holiday to celebrate "Britishness".

I didn't do histroy beyond S2, but wasn't the Magna Carta a purely English thing (or maybe involved Wales). Absolutely nothing to do with Scotland. I'm told the person who suggested it was.... Gordon Brown. Hmmm, says it all.

Naw, it was King John if my memory serves me, but New Labour'll take credit for anything.
mortonjag 2006-06-02 00:47:01
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 2 2006, 12:24 AM) [snapback]144429[/snapback]

Oh aye, and the Tories will do you a better deal will they?

The Tories ARE in power-hadn't you noticed-and just to correct any misconception, I've never voted 'tory' in my life, but I'd rather have Maggie any day than that pair of Muppets.
mortonjag 2006-06-02 08:28:47
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 2 2006, 08:07 AM) [snapback]144442[/snapback]

Christ you must be posh...

Protective
Of
Scottish
Heritage----POSH-aye, and the said MUPPETS are not despite their origins.
mortonjag 2006-06-02 08:34:11
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jun 2 2006, 08:29 AM) [snapback]144444[/snapback]

Where were you in the 80s? I wouldn't knock another day off work, but sod all to do with the Scottish.

The point is that Thatcher was a self interested, determined Tory who wouldn't let anything or anybody stand in her way, and she admitted it.

Blair and Brown are the same but deny it. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-06-02 08:39:19 My brother'll still be on holiday so it'll just be myself and Monkey in the car. Should be a damned less stressful than Peterhead he says ! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-06-02 08:53:51 What's the bets that by Monday, we've heard another dozen disturbing rumours.
It's quite clear from the threads that a lot of people DO get upset by them, and I'm not sure that they are completely harmless.

I propose a challenge-anyone posting on the forum who claims to have genuine and reliable information should offer to make a donation to the Trust funds if proven wrong.

Power without responsibility-STINKS ! mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-06-02 09:01:07
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 2 2006, 08:58 AM) [snapback]144452[/snapback]

If I'm wrong regarding basic design of the new home top I will donate £30 to the trust, wink.gif

Excellent midTONs-that's the spirit, and the starting bid for rumour mongers is logged at £30-any advances-c'mon gentlemen, let's be hearing you. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-06-02 09:06:23
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 2 2006, 09:01 AM) [snapback]144454[/snapback]

For the youngsters Cognoscentes means A person with superior, usually specialized knowledge or highly refined taste; a connoisseur.

Knowledge is not the province of the aged Bryan-either in lexicography or footballing information.

Chambers dictionary has 'cognoscente' as-'a person professing an expert knowledge' (from Latin cognoscere-to know).
mortonjag 2006-06-02 09:07:58
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 2 2006, 09:01 AM) [snapback]144455[/snapback]

If I'm wrong in saying that there's a further two players still to leave Cappielow then I'll happily donate HUF 3600.

That sounds as informed and specific as a George Bush speech !
mortonjag 2006-06-02 09:18:44
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jun 2 2006, 08:54 AM) [snapback]144450[/snapback]

come on anyone who watches BB, vote SEZER OUT!!!! even my mum text voted him out after last nights show!

The bookies have him 1-8 on for eviction, and the smug wee fanny will still be lolling about thinking a nation of drooling young ladies wants him to win.

Self belief is commendable but that jumped up little Turkish turd is plainly deluded, and deserves everything that's coming to him.

Unlike many of the aspirants he doesn't need the money, and he'll just look even more stupid than ever among his acquaintances-doubt if he's got any friends.

Big Brother is the winner again !!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2006-06-02 09:23:19
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 2 2006, 09:09 AM) [snapback]144466[/snapback]

You're living proof tongue.gif ph34r.gif

And you're a cheeky young whippersnapper ! wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-06-02 09:26:20
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 2 2006, 09:23 AM) [snapback]144476[/snapback]

Well that has been the info I've been relaying from day one.
It's just the announcement of the two hasn't taken place yet and I'm not expecting both to be announced at the same time when it does.

I am however very surprised that one hasn't been announced already.

After all he does have a new club from what I've been informed.

That last posting's definitely a fifty quidder-c'mon! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-06-02 09:49:08
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 2 2006, 09:41 AM) [snapback]144484[/snapback]

OK I'll donate 25 quid if another two players aren't offski by the beginning of the season.

This is appart from the confirmed two of Adam & McLaren.

The reason I say the beginning of the season is that I don't know when the 2nd will be announced.

So yes I am informed and not just a rumour monger.

All those who profess to knowing otherwise should also put their money where their mouths are by backing against me / prepared to donate against me, if the above doesn't happen.

If all the so called doubters back against me by 2.50 each then the trust would be better off regardless of the outcome.

I think this is a fair challenge.

Now the question is how many of these BIG mouth doubters will donate such a small amount ohmy.gif

Well done on starting such a worthwhile thread.

Sir I salute your indefatiguability-you are indeed a cognoscente of the highest order.

For Bryan- 'that know-all never gives up'! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-06-02 09:59:52
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 2 2006, 09:37 AM) [snapback]144482[/snapback]

your a brave man laugh.gif

Schoolboy footballers? We don't need a class player as much as a bloody schoolmaster IMO! smile.gif

Required: one experienced professional arse kicker with grit, self belief, and a 'win at all costs' work ethic.

More than average competence would be an advantage but is not a prerequisite for the job.
mortonjag 2006-06-02 10:13:54
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 2 2006, 09:52 AM) [snapback]144487[/snapback]

If it's any consolation, he didn't spell it correctly tongue.gif

I spelled it the way I wanted to, as the word only exists in the mind of Gorgeous George who coined the neologism in his Saddam address.

The noun from indefatigable is actually indefatigableness.

Anyway what's wrong with using our native language in an erudite fashion.

Are football forums (or fora for purists) only supposed to be for the illiterate.

I know Bryan's poking fun, but IMO it's sad that so many have chips on their shoulders about education.

I don't grudge a world class soccer player his talent, and just love when he shows it off.
mortonjag 2006-06-02 10:35:04
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 2 2006, 10:33 AM) [snapback]144516[/snapback]

Anyone think there could be a chance of Jason Walker joining Clyde if Williams was to leave?

I'm just asking not implying

And what's the betting Williams isn't on his way back here wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-06-02 10:42:26
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 2 2006, 10:28 AM) [snapback]144512[/snapback]

Mortonjag, your post asked why Brechin bother to aim for the 1st division when they know they'll come straight back down. That's a ridiculous thing to say. What would you have them do? Aim for 5th in the second division every year, just to make sure they stay were they belong?

Piehutt congratulated them on what they have achieved with limited resources. Completely different.

Maybe I should rephrase it. I'm not suggesting for a minute that any team should lie down.

I stated that I frankly can't understand why Brechin bother, and in realistic terms I can't.

I don't know much about their finances, but I would have thought that if staying in div.1 was viable and profitable they COULD have done that, yet they do seem content to have this yo-yo existence.
mortonjag 2006-06-02 10:46:13
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 2 2006, 10:31 AM) [snapback]144515[/snapback]

David Will CBE was also the Chairman of Brechin who went on to become a VICE PRESIDENT of FIFA and chaired their audit committee. So not only on the field are they punching above their weight then.....or could it be that we think we are bigger than we actually are? In a results driven environment it is results that count.....

In a money driven environment it's money that counts-Gretna

In a results driven environment it's results that count-Partick

In a non driven environment nothing seems to count-Morton
mortonjag 2006-06-02 10:57:14
QUOTE(Tony Almeida @ Jun 2 2006, 10:29 AM) [snapback]144513[/snapback]

The dump in question is a Cypriot and technically he is a grade A-2 fanny, the board (Heat magazine) feel that Richard might just pip him into the prestigious A-1 bracket, whereby a deal with the Daily Star is the top of the pile when he emerges.

Yip he's a Turkish Cypriot, lacks a balaclava, and treats women in traditional fashion.

If the tabloids are correct, he's already worth a few bob, and there's nothing sensational been going on, so he's going to have to 'COME OUT' with something soon.

I've said from the first day I saw him that he's a closet gay, or a Bi.

Both professed gays have detested him-I suspect they've sensed something queer about him! smile.gif

The only thing he's good for is emesis.
mortonjag 2006-06-02 11:08:02
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 2 2006, 10:56 AM) [snapback]144523[/snapback]

DD

You are right about results driven environment but call it what you want, Morton are a bigger club than Brechin by any measure except results where they have overachieved and we have underachieved in recent years.

Maybe we do think of ourselves as bigger than we are but we still command a support which is easily in the top 15 in Scotland and ultimately, the size of a team's following determines their average degree of success. Our support base suggests that we would normally be a top half first division club and when we do what Brechin are doing i.e. punch above our weight, we get into the SPL.

Surely no one doubts that we have not been where we should be in recent years. Morton are not a third division or second division team and the fact that we are entering our sixth successive season in the lower leagues is one of our worst sustained spells of underachievment ever. I do not believe it will last provided the bulk of last year's team is retained and we strengthen.

If you have been a Morton fan as long as I have, you just have to believe this, otherwise you would be looking for a loaded revolver and the use of an empty room!

Tonsilitis, I think you're flogging a dead horse on this one.

Some people will deny facts just for the sake of it, while others allow themselves to get carried away by emotion.

In terms of history, population, and potential, we are an SPL side, Brechin are probably where they will always be, and Gre£na are a seven day wonder.
mortonjag 2006-06-03 09:16:49
QUOTE(le_chien_de_la_vialasse @ Jun 3 2006, 02:13 AM) [snapback]144806[/snapback]

i still think templeman could be a great player for us.

not as a feckin lay-off from punt-up-the-park-s***e-football-mcinally-style though.

Good post-Sanny has proved he can produce the goods if everything is in place, and why some posters are suggesting he's 'done' defeats logic.

The same applies to Walker in my opinion.

It's no stretch of the imagination that those boys together could be joint top scorers with another division 2 club where their worth was appreciated, and their talents used properly.

There are two sides to every story remember.
mortonjag 2006-06-03 09:19:22 Looking at the charts, Oban's about your worst bet. It's going to be a mixed day of sun and cloud, with probably some rain too.

Check the BBC Scottish region 24 hr forecast Mid TONs-it's usually not bad.
mortonjag 2006-06-03 09:30:33
QUOTE(para @ Jun 2 2006, 08:02 PM) [snapback]144729[/snapback]

historically we aint SPL
How often have we won the Scottish cup
How often have we won yhe top league
Hal Stewart rescued a club dying on its feet
Last 6 years proves we aint got any devine right
Believe it

Your history's very selective.

Hal Stewart did rescue the Ton, but before that they had had excellent spells in the old first division, a goalkeeper who was maybe the best international of all time, and had beaten, and lost to Rangers in Scottish cup finals.

After Hal, we had successful runs in the top league which we headed for a time. and under Rooney and Jackson were well respected by all including the Old Firm.

During those days we also played Rangers at Hampden in the League Cup final before a crowd of over 110.000 (Gretna take note!), and played in the Fairs Cities, and Texaco cups.

The truth is that we are potentially as successful as any other Scottish provincial club-our history DOES prove it-and that automatically puts us at SPL level.

Those are facts so don't come back and argue unless my Alzheimer's is playing up again.
mortonjag 2006-06-03 09:35:23
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jun 3 2006, 09:25 AM) [snapback]144828[/snapback]

Doesn't everyone laugh.gif

Aye-on a SUNDAY morning TaunTon-have you lost a day somewhere down there? smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-06-03 09:38:51
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jun 3 2006, 08:53 AM) [snapback]144818[/snapback]

his face was a picture when davina told him that 92% of the public had voted for him. dont think he understood why all the females found him irresistable. BOAK!!!!

Now we've got rid of that wee fanny my next pet hate is of the ? fairer sex-Grace-an evil spoiled bullying brat who will hopefully be next for 'come-uppance'. mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-06-03 11:24:04
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 2 2006, 07:51 PM) [snapback]144719[/snapback]

Alex William Hill better never set foot in Cappielow again.

Would you take him back if given the chance?

unsure.gif

It would be a big gamble-no pun intended-anybody who says Alex lacks talent needs his head looked, but then so does Alex.
mortonjag 2006-06-03 11:26:25
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 3 2006, 09:40 AM) [snapback]144833[/snapback]

Don't know about you mortonjag but generally a Sunday is the only day of the week I refrain from farting in fear of following through laugh.gif

Ach-go for it-farting's disgusting anyway, so why not have a wee s***fest too !! cool.gif
mortonjag 2006-06-03 11:33:41 John Adam will stroll the third division with the right support on and off the pitch. The boy is only 21, and IMO has still a long way to go. I wish him well.
mortonjag 2006-06-03 11:48:06
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 2 2006, 10:00 PM) [snapback]144772[/snapback]

Good call LargsTon......

Well Jaggy Boy......

Where's your dosh ?????????????????????????????

smile.gif I never suggested that you, or anybody else shouldn't post genuine information-I was trying to get at the Muppets who rumour monger for the sake of it, and we've had plenty of that.

Mind you it's funny-I started that McAlister one totally tongue in cheek, and it looks like it's backfired.

As for donations-well here's one-I pledge £100 to the trust if Jamie Stevenson scores less than 15 goals next season, and another £100 if we've got promotion by the end of April.
mortonjag 2006-06-03 11:56:23 I have always favoured the old fashioned horizontal blue and white hoops.

I can't remember when the yellow started, but when I was younger the Ton were blue and white-end of story.

I can't understand all the fuss though.

If the boys win the league next season in black and white stripes and skunk haircuts, I'll be over the moon.
mortonjag 2006-06-03 11:59:30
QUOTE(Cappielowcrazy @ Jun 3 2006, 11:54 AM) [snapback]144861[/snapback]

Also off to Hampden biggrin.gif

Who are Bon Jovi playing?

Seriously I live less than a mile a way, and saw three or four stretch limos about earlier. I didn't know there was a big gig on today.
mortonjag 2006-06-03 12:09:20 If you hate the f*cking English--------CLAP YOUR----I mean come on here and make nice wee noises about the Union and racism etc., and be seen to be ever so politically correct.

I can't think of one individual Englishman I've ever 'hated', and my Grandad was a Scouser, but when it comes to football---


I HATE THE F*CKING ENGLISH
mortonjag 2006-06-03 12:25:19
QUOTE(McInally`s Monkey @ Jun 3 2006, 12:03 PM) [snapback]144866[/snapback]

Mrs Monkey is also off to hampden today. I reckon I should 'have a nice day' without her tongue.gif

My avatar's desperate for a mate MM-think yourself lucky ! wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-06-03 13:27:44 Don't know what happened there!
mortonjag 2006-06-03 13:35:15
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 3 2006, 01:05 PM) [snapback]144887[/snapback]

Donkey Dave,

They may have paid £34,000 for the sponsorship, but it is worth much more than that. Eg. St.Mirren get more than double that amount from Braehead. What Golden Casket effectively have got for that money is a huge travelling roadshow with up to, and often in excess of 1,000 folk travelling across Scotland with adverts for a Golden Casket brand name on thier chest. Think of all the people who see our shirts on supporters on trains, buses, town centres etc. and think who/what is Millions? That kind of exposure is worth a lot more than £34k/a, GC wouldnt be able to purchase even a fraction of that kind of exposure on STV for that kind of money. A more conservative estimate of the value of our kit deal is £75k.

I never stated any of the figures in my previous quote were facts, Im not one of the privileged few that get to see club accounts etc. but i do know and understand the media marketplace in West Central Scotland and that Morton's matchday programme is the second best selling local publication in its area, and there are no shortage of takers for trackside adverts at Cappielow. What i do not know is whether the price these adverts are being sold for reflect thier true value which if the kit deal is anything to go by, i suspect not.

Douglas Rae, the Golden Casket Group, and GMFC are three separate financial entities. Accounts demonstrate very clearly that GMFC runs at a loss.

Sponsors do a pre season deal with a club. How much they make after that is none of the club's business.

I hate the way Dougie appears to meddle, and feel he should stay well away from the players and management, but you are clearly suggesting that he is some charlatan profiting at the Ton's expense, and that's just a joke.

He's done more than enough in financial terms already to get us up another division.

Why that didn't happen is another matter.
mortonjag 2006-06-03 13:44:45
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 26 2006, 12:29 PM) [snapback]142529[/snapback]

MortonJag, you're a tool.

I didn't post about three players who are likely to be off the turf, or the fact that most of the senior squad are disgruntled at the long ball tactics (and the fact that the club captain can't raise it with the manager without being dropped for the next game) purely because I don't want to break the confidence of the person who told me.

If I didn't break his confidence then I'd have to put up with idiots like you demanding I "name my source" and quite frankly, I can't be bothered with it.

As I've said before BH, tools are useful.

If you're told something in confidence, you keep your big f*cking mouth shut-end of story.

Don't start bleating and making excuses for your stupidity.
mortonjag 2006-06-04 10:39:13
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 3 2006, 04:18 PM) [snapback]144933[/snapback]

Douglas Rae is the man in charge of the Golden Casket Group, and also the man in charge of Morton FC. We already know that.
When DDFR makes a deal with DDFR, inevitably DDFR will benefit.
Please tell me where ive suggested that he is quote "some charlatan profiting at the Ton's expense".

He owns the club, if it were profitable i wouldnt grudge him that delight. I do think DDFR takes the fans for granted and he believes that Morton supporters should swallow any old s***e that were spoonfed. If he thinks its acceptable for one part of his empire to make a loss to benefit another, only for the beneficiary to appear altruistic and cover the loss then theres nothing we can do about it. Morton could be better served if our own commercial operations were operated in a more business-like manner rather than a School tuck-shop, but its not our business, its DDFR's, we are only supporters.

Morton should be a stand alone entity. There are a couple of other parties out there with serious cash eg. Alastair Donald, Gordon Ramsay, John Maguire who have expressed an interest in investing in the club. If thier aims are to benefit the club then they should be welcomed aboard.

Morton is far too big to be DDFR's plaything.
Obviously not enough. If that were the case then supporters of teams like Newcastle, Leeds, Villa, Spurs, Everton etc. would feel that they deserve to have had dozens of trophies over the past ten years, rather than a long barren past. Its all about what happens on the pitch and weve bolloxed it for the past three seasons.

Brooks Mileson has given Morton a blueprint of how it should be done. It is now up to DDFR to dig deep himself and emulate it. He isn't short of cash, he is one of the wealthiest men involved in Scottish Football, the supporters have got behind Morton over the past few years and we deserve to be rewarded with success again instead of another year of bitter disappointment.

We know there is no prizes for being second best in this league, so only the 2nd Division championship is good enough.

Oh I see - Dougie's not spending enough dosh-I take it it's all in a big pot under his bed, and gets counted every night.

It's patently obvious you DO see him as some kind of charlatan.

As a matter of interest, since you seem to be, or think you are, in the financial know, what proportion of his disposable income has Mileson shelled out on Gretna relative to DDFR's outlays on the Ton.
mortonjag 2006-06-04 11:01:12
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jun 3 2006, 07:51 PM) [snapback]144975[/snapback]

As I've said many times, Templeman's at his best when he is allowed to drop back a bit and find some space. If he's allowed to do that, there's a chance he might to a job next season.

One of my gripes with McInally is that he doesn't seem to allow for much flexibility. Every player seems to have his own area to operate in and deviation seems to be frowned upon.

Hopefully that changes next season or, as well as Templeman, we'll likely be adding Jamie Stevenson to the list of failures.

I agree with you-there's much more football in Sanny than he gets credit for, and he's best when he's allowed to drift in and out of space.

As for McInally, I know it's early. I've always liked him and assume he's an excellent coach, but his lack of managerial experience and ability stuck out a mile last season.

He consistently played squad members out of position-Weatherson, Millar McAlister, McGregor, Finlayson, A.Walker, are the ones that spring to mind.

He seemed incapable of deciding on a fixed formation or team selection from one week to another.

Most of all for me, when it came to the crunch game against Peterhead (the one at Scapa) his team of full timers came out looking like lost wee boys, and he seemed incapable of motivating them when it mattered most.

I do hope I am wrong, and I realise that things in the background may have conspired against him, but I do not see Jim going far in football management, if he continues to perform as he did.
mortonjag 2006-06-04 11:14:30
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jun 3 2006, 11:18 PM) [snapback]145007[/snapback]

Dunfermline fans I've spoken to through here don't rate him, but then again, that's playing in SPL and not 2nd Division.

Aye like James McPake-I'm beginning to wonder if some of our posters have less intelligence than I gave them credit for-I don't mean you marbellaton-but the minute the word striker appears all our problems are solved.

Last season we had more f*cking 'strikers' than Peterhead, Partick, and probably the rest of the division, barring the mercenaries,-and we actually scored plenty of goals but failed to get promotion.

If the Willowmen and MidTONs of this world could only post a 'RELIABLE' rolleyes.gif rumour about the experienced holding midfielder we've been crying out for I'd willingly kiss their arses !
mortonjag 2006-06-04 11:21:29
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 4 2006, 10:13 AM) [snapback]145042[/snapback]

He had the heart of a sparrow. 2 years from now he will either be playing junior or will have hung the boots up.

So had Andy Ritchie-if you don't believe me, ask Andy himself, there's more to football than a big heart.

mortonjag 2006-06-04 11:25:56
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 4 2006, 10:32 AM) [snapback]145047[/snapback]

From Dunfermline site (where he is described as a midfielder!)

http://www.dafc.co.uk/squad/teamdetail.asp?PlayerID=1039

8 goals from 52 appearances seems to be just the kind of 'striker' we need right now, and the boy's possibly injury prone too.

Some people on this site would start drooling if there was a rumour we were about to sign Russell Grant as a goalie.
mortonjag 2006-06-04 11:28:15
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 3 2006, 02:48 PM) [snapback]144909[/snapback]

Is it just me, or is every Scottish person who has ever been in Big Brother a c***?

Didn't know you had been on smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-06-04 11:37:19
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Jun 4 2006, 12:17 AM) [snapback]145023[/snapback]

Just bought a new car, looking for a set of reasonably priced alloys for it. Not looking for anything particularly fancy, 16" or 17", basic chunky 5 spokes are what im after, but baulking at the prices for wheels and tyres. Anyone got any recommendations? or know anywhere that sells second hand?

been on ebay, searched google etc....

You can definitely pick them up at a 'scrappy' though it's a hassle-some of the bigger ones have web sites.

There are one or two places where they refurbish alloys (I know of one in South St in Glasgow, and they occasionally have odd stock)

Other than that you're probably looking at about £300.

It also depends on your car model-you can't just fling alloys onto any car-you need to know if they will be suitable for the suspension, bearings etc.

The bloke in South St told me about a guy who ruined the bearings on his Jag with Alloys that Halfords had sold him.
mortonjag 2006-06-04 12:01:25 MidTONs don't go in the huff-keep them coming by all means. I take it your brother also sends texts to the Sunday papers. smile.gif

All I asked was for a reliable hint from somebody 'in the know' that we're getting the player I think we need most.
mortonjag 2006-06-04 12:10:59 Unless it has a Mileson, the financial success of any football club is essentially a function of the gate money.

Donald does not mean us, but take a look at the Brechins and Stranraers of this world-sure they get into div 1 on playing merit, but they haven't the financial infrastructure to maintain success so they bounce back down.

I think all he meant was you can't spend what you aint got.
mortonjag 2006-06-04 12:18:09
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 4 2006, 12:12 PM) [snapback]145073[/snapback]

at the end of the day I saying I never started any rumours regarding players, I only printed the names that I was given. wink.gif
edit to add - I don't do huffs

So it's 'don't shoot the messenger'-well that's fair enough if you are 100% certain of your sources.
mortonjag 2006-06-04 12:27:19
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jun 3 2006, 05:44 PM) [snapback]144953[/snapback]

I'm 21 in July and if you were to ask me to name defining albums of recent years in my life its hard to pick ones that can top some of the great releases from the 70's, 80,s and early 90s. A lot of young people today still sneer at "old" music because its before their time, I'm not one of them! If your more into current types of music to make yourself look good then your not really a music fan IMO.

Heres five from the last ten years that think have really been a big part of my youth so far.

Manic Street Preachers - Everything Must Go (1996)

Radiohead - OK Computer (1997)

R.E.M. - Reveal (2001)

Doves - The Last Broadcast (2002)

Arcade Fire - Funeral (2004)

What a pleasure to hear somebody of your age talk sense about music.

Every generation produces its crap, but at the moment they seem to be specialising in it.

Of course music's a matter of taste-I never criticise somebody who genuinely likes something, but there's so much peer pressure and brainwashing in the modern scene, that kids often just go with the flow.

mortonjag 2006-06-04 13:03:09
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 4 2006, 12:58 PM) [snapback]145082[/snapback]

Rather than just the stats, does anyone know what kind of player he is?

If he's more of a "support" forward, the kind of guy to whom Lilley can knock all the useless high balls that get punted his way to give Derek some much-needed backup, he could be what we're looking for.

On the other hand, if he's just some numpty unable to score goals who's not cutting it at the Pars, then no thanks.

The guy you're talking about has been stuck in defence for us almost all season. I honestly don't think signing another forward should be a priority, unless Jim McAlister's definitely off, and we replace him with somebody who can cross a ball.
mortonjag 2006-06-04 13:14:14 I currently live in Glasgow, and have worked and travelled throughout the central belt.

It never ceases to amaze me how beautiful the Inverclyde area is-especially on a bright summers day.

Views from the top of Kilmacolm road, or the Lyle Hill are hard to surpass, and the leafy West End puts many better favoured Scottish towns to shame.

When I was a boy, my uncle lived in the top flat of one of the old Belville St. tenements. He used to give me a shot of his binoculars, and I was fascinated by the tugs in the dock, and the boats sailing up and down the river.
mortonjag 2006-06-04 13:24:19
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Jun 4 2006, 01:08 PM) [snapback]145085[/snapback]

We're down McLaren, McPake and possibly Jason from last season. In what way is signing a forward not a priority huh.gif

I know, but we've got Del, Temps, and Spoonsy.-If we do sign a forward it has to be a winger. I think Chris Millar could adapt to that role, especially with Stevenson (who also scores goals) in midfield. We are weak in attack down the left, so a left winger would make sense. I'm not saying we shouldn't sign a forward, but I'm starting to panic about the lack of midfield experience and dig.

Jim McInally was a youth coach before he came to us. I don't doubt his ability to spot young talent, but this is Division 2 and our budget's limited.

I hated the fact that Gre£na bought promotion, but they DID buy wisely and concentrated on experience rather than youthful skill.
mortonjag 2006-06-04 13:26:37
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 4 2006, 01:22 PM) [snapback]145087[/snapback]

I spent yesterday in Shotts.

I was more than happy to see Greenock last night!

Shotts is the bowels of the earth-people with hearts of gold mind you.
mortonjag 2006-06-04 13:44:59
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jun 4 2006, 01:33 PM) [snapback]145091[/snapback]

We have ONE striker at the club.

We have a utility player in Weatherson, and a plank of wood in Templeman.

How the hell do we not need another striker???

I rate players on history AND performance ThornTON-if a 'striker' is a player with goal scoring ability, we clearly have three, whom I have already named.

How the hell are TEN bloody strikers going to get goals if they are not supplied?

Our priority is clearly experience and drive from midfield. It was completely absent last season-that's why we failed-not because of the forwards we had.
mortonjag 2006-06-19 07:36:00
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jun 18 2006, 11:26 AM) [snapback]149153[/snapback]

I remember him plying primarily on the left wing where he was hopeless.

He was completely powder -puff , and lacked physical presence, but his potential was obviously there, and that's why people should stop slating players like John Adam and Chris Millar.

As for Bobby Collins-if he'd been our captain last season we'd have given Gretna a good run for their money-AND WE STILL HAVEN"T SIGNED THAT KIND OF PLAYER.
We DON'T need another striker, and we can cope with the existing defence IMO-we need self belief and drive far more than anything else.
mortonjag 2006-06-24 07:49:40
QUOTE(Graeme @ Jun 23 2006, 05:35 PM) [snapback]150472[/snapback]

Up front we have

Kenny McLean - A young boy who has played two games so unlikely he will bang in 20+

Templeman - A guy who has been a massive failure and who wanted to get away from the club with the managers blessing

Lilley - Best days behind him

We need two strikers asap!!!

I can't say I am looking forward to watching a team that has failed to win promotion 3 season in a row now, lets hope we can be top come january and add a good few players then!

I know-the forwards were terrible last season. Let's face it, with nothing coming through the middle, very little from the wings, and mostly just speculative long balls they still managed to score more than everybody else except that other lot (I've already forgotten their name).

Graeme, IMO you and guys like you are clouding this issue-having half a dozen 'strikers' doesn't mean you'll score loads of goals.

What we need first and foremost is an experienced midfield motivator-that might even be enough with the squad we've got.
mortonjag 2006-06-24 07:58:23
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 19 2006, 01:58 PM) [snapback]149410[/snapback]

I agree we need a midfield leader - not necessarily the most skilful player ever but just competent and a shouter - a guy who encourages the younger players and keeps the heads up and motivated - a captain basically.

I disagree about strikers. With the loss of McLaren and Walker, we are short of forwards (I don't class McLaren as a striker). Basically we only have Lilley McLean and Templeman and thats not enough in anyone's language. We could do with at least a striking partner for Lilley.

I agree our first team defence is sound but we don't have a lot of cover. Another defender would be nice but the least important of the signings required.

I console myself with the fact that Jim announced a few weeks ago that he was looking for one more player in each area, striking, midfield and defence.

I wouldn't say no to another striker IF we had our midfielder in place, but don't forget Jamie Stevenson and Chris Millar will knock in a fair few, wee Kenny might just come good at the right time, and why has everybody written Temps off ?

As for Vialli, he'll keep going for a couple of seasons at this level. Don't forget, we were second top scorers last season-striker-sure but NOT priority IMO.
mortonjag 2006-06-24 08:05:39
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 24 2006, 07:51 AM) [snapback]150578[/snapback]

If the financial budget is not there for McInally that is not his fault.
He can't bring players in if the Club can't afford it.

Of course, McInally is not blameless for last season.Simply because I don't think he identified and brought in the right type of player that was needed.

But on this occasion if the Club cannot afford players because of finiance, that is not McInally's fault.

Historically the second division has NOT been won by clubs with big player pools. Last season was an exception. Clubs like Stranraer, Brechin, and Stirling seem to relish this division and get the best from a skeleton squad.

Whether or not it's down to money I don't know, but Dougie certainly didn't get what he expected from big Sanny, and he's maybe scared to rush into anything now.

Frankly if we get the one player we need in midfield, I think we'll walk this division with the boys we've got.
mortonjag 2006-06-24 08:08:38
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 23 2006, 03:51 PM) [snapback]150446[/snapback]

...missed anything unsure.gif

Take another two off Bryan-it's totally dead-and the weather wasn't good either! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-06-24 08:52:55
QUOTE(Waverley @ Jun 21 2006, 09:59 AM) [snapback]149814[/snapback]

I am sure that management are working hard to sign players.
I am not concerned by the lack of comments from Cappielow. For the past couple of seasons there were premature announcements made from Cappielow, only to fall apart and the club were blasted, on this site. Now they are keeping things publicly quiet, and are being blasted again.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
I am confident that management will once again field a team that will compete for promotion.

You're hopefully right.

If you are referring to the current management though, can I just correct your last sentence?

For 'once again', read 'at last'. mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-06-24 09:05:40
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Jun 7 2006, 04:51 PM) [snapback]145948[/snapback]

Astra, the one before the new shape.

Looks like the guys know more about bands than wheels M4RKO-any joy so far-you can get a set of new 17" alloys WITH tyres for less than 350 quid if you shop around.
mortonjag 2006-06-24 09:08:36
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 24 2006, 09:01 AM) [snapback]150590[/snapback]

Well you didn't need to be Nostradamus to predict this.

English fans riot

It's about time England was banned from a major tournament before someone dies.
How many times are we going to see this from England fans ? It's been happening for the last 30 years in about every major tournament they have been involved in !

RETURN OF THE 'LAGER LOUTS' mad.gif

If they get through the next stage I'll be astonished.
mortonjag 2006-06-24 09:20:25 I agree with the posts in general, but those parent and child slots are a joke IMO.

People who abuse the disabled bays are pure c*nts, but what's the problem with the weans-if they're too wee to walk there are purpose designed trolleys, or you can use a fold up buggy.

I feel far more sorry for older people who can't or are too proud to get a 'disabled' badge.

mortonjag 2006-06-24 09:25:12
QUOTE(Capuan @ Jun 23 2006, 11:31 PM) [snapback]150534[/snapback]

You're right! I've checked all 10 centuries from Nostradamus and it is not quoted anywhere. Somebody has just made it up and passed it onto a Spanish newspaper.

bastards.

Nostradamus also predicted that the TON would make new signings in June 2006-what a genius he was. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-06-28 21:48:20
QUOTE(Bobby McMahon @ Jun 28 2006, 05:39 PM) [snapback]151381[/snapback]

How do you ever expect your team to get out of the manky division in which they find themselves if you want to keep giving chance after chance to a perennial loser. All this one more chance guff - Morton need to win the league this year, no room for mibbes or lets wait and see - they need people they know can deliver the goods. How many games do we give him eh? He's been at Cappielow for 18 months and done heehaw, why should that change? Get rid of the deadwood I say.

Guess you don't like the guy-you sound like one of those arseholes who can only see black and white.

We all know Templeman was s***e for us, but that's past now.

The fact is he's a proven goalscorer, and if he turns it round this season I hope-but doubt you'll be big enough to eat your words.
mortonjag 2006-06-29 07:43:47
QUOTE(Bobby McMahon @ Jun 28 2006, 10:31 PM) [snapback]151504[/snapback]

Aye well I'd say your an even bigger arsehole for showing too much sentiment over a donkey, probably at the expense of your team's success this season, then you'll wonder where it all went wrong and hope that the big diddy gets another chance.

If you're blaming our failure to gain promotion on Templeman, you've REALLY got it in for the big man!

FFS-'Donkey' just because he looks a bit clumsy.

OK, I know what you mean, but I repeat it, you'll have to eat your words if he starts banging them in again.

Once a striker, always a striker- AND THE SAME APPLIES TO SPOONSY wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-06-29 07:53:56 I can't re-call any Ton player who could head the ball clear as powerfully as big Madsen, often well into the other half-I loved watching that, and Bertelsen could get up an amazing height for crosses.

The classiest for me though, was Jorn Sorensen, -how we need him in midfield right now. sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-06-30 21:52:01 Is anybody remembering that in a normal season we would have been promoted-AND we matched Gretna in the head to heads.

Those boys CAN play football if they are motivated, so why is everybody having a go.

In my opinion, if McInally's here for a while, he may end up being a good manager, but if anything needs changed right now it's him and not the youngsters.

Mr Rae's mistake will be his failure to sign an on field motivator-or is he keeping something a secret from our expert rumour mongers? smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-06-30 22:57:25
QUOTE(1insert_player_here @ Jun 30 2006, 10:10 PM) [snapback]152055[/snapback]

IMO Peter Weatherson fits the bill for this midfield player you all want to see.
Then play McGregor at right back, sign a left back, sign a forward player, and that's enough and if money is available a few backup players, if not wait til January and see how things are going.

Personally, i'm excited at the signing of Jamie Stevenson and can't wait to see him play, unlike the rest of you moany bastards tongue.gif

I agree in general, but Spoonsy's not really shown the unusual quality we need-the ability to MAKE the rest play.
mortonjag 2006-06-30 23:01:36
QUOTE(para @ Jun 30 2006, 10:20 PM) [snapback]152061[/snapback]

we had McGraw and Caven
Goldthorpe and Scott
Mason amd morrison (not Andy but Eddie)
we need another pairing that score of each other

No we don't-the present forwards will score plenty if they get a decent supply.

We desperately need a productive midfielder-Stevenson may fit the bill- and we've got to start getting crosses over from at least one wing-who in the present squad does that?

Most of all we need our midfield leader.
mortonjag 2006-06-30 23:17:22
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jun 30 2006, 08:11 PM) [snapback]152030[/snapback]

when i lived in midton i honestly used to get a good laugh at these twats. there were about 10 of them and they would have to draught a "band" in from lanarkshire or some other s***hole.

in the morning they would march doon divert road wi all the good gear on then in the evening they made a gloriously drunken return to the scheme. bowler hats aw squinty and big red coupons laugh.gif

marchers on both sides of the divide need to get with the times. embarrasing clowns. do people not have more important things to concern them these days? e.g. bringing your kids up in a tolerant, safe environment.

Those b*stards and their 'Fenian' counterparts are just flogging a dead horse forza-you've got it in one- it's great live entertainment, and the joke's on them.
mortonjag 2006-06-30 23:31:41 Germany have to be favourites now, but don't write off the Italians-it's just about their turn for this.
mortonjag 2006-06-30 23:42:23 Yep-it's been dull as dishwater, but wait 'til that wee Welsh fanny gets a dose from Lea-that'll brighten things up-'Know what I mean' mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-06-30 23:48:17 Did a fortnight's tour of Britain in a camper six years ago.

I thought the people of North Wales were the weirdest creatures on this earth, but South Wales was really nice.

Maybe I just had a bad experience, and it's the Home Counties wallahs who normally piss me off, but the most friendly people I met were in a country pub near Cambridge.
mortonjag 2006-06-30 23:55:05 That's because they use a menu system for sentencing, but if there is no latitude for a sheriff-and knife carrying means imprisonment, it will be just that.
mortonjag 2006-07-01 00:02:02 GRETNA-remember them-owned by an Englishman-managed by one of his c*nt rymen-and Scottish only by virtue of the boundary being a couple of miles out.
mortonjag 2006-07-01 00:07:19
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jun 30 2006, 06:59 PM) [snapback]152007[/snapback]

It is better best forgotten. It was a harsh lesson that only Morton among a small select few other teams in recent decades have had to learn.

The fact was that the team had a terrible defence that season. Games where we scored 4 we sometimes conceded 3, 3 for saw 2 against and so on. One game where we scored six, we conceded 5! When the strikers who scored a barrel of goals in the opening half of that season suddenly hit a barren spell, we got found out, the low quality of the defence and weakened ability of our ageing captain in charge of it got rumbled. A mostly young team's bottle crashed thereafter.

We've got the mix near enough right for 06/07 I think, just don't seem to be making that much progress in making signings!

We might have the right mix in terms of attack and defence, but we still sadly lack experience.
mortonjag 2006-07-01 00:19:35 Just realised there's light at the end of the tunnel-don't know why it's been so hard-maybe blowing promotion twice, frustration with the run in to the play offs etc., but my Saturdays have been so empty, and I can't wait for the new season.

I know we are all complaining about lack of signings and so on, but anything'll be better than this!
mortonjag 2006-07-05 14:26:32
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Jul 1 2006, 05:09 PM) [snapback]152269[/snapback]

I have a courtesy car this week as my own car is in to get quarter panel replaced (Garage going to need car for roughly 10 days).

This afternoon I happened to take a look at tax disc only to discover that it was indeed for yesterdays date!!!!!!!

Phoned garage as soon as I realised (garage close at 2) and this is 1.15pm. Bodyshop not open on a Saturday. Told them my problem to be informed that I am responsible for ticket (if I should get one!)

I told them that I would not be paying if I received one. My Dad phoned traffic cops who say that garage are at fault and that it is an offence to drive car. Which now means not being able to meet up with friends in Kilmacolm 2nite.

This now means my dad taking a trip to garage on Monday to collect new tax disc (if they have one!).

And also when I got in car on Tuesday I had a flashing petrol light and car was stinkin of smoke (after me being told that no smoking or pets to be carried in car!)

None of which I do anyway!

Am not best pleased and cannot wait for my own car again! sad.gif

Seems a strange garage that needs 10 days to stick on a quarter panel-I bet it's a franchised dealer, and if so you should take them to the cleaners.

On the other hand, if it's just a wee business, you're lucky getting a courtesy car, though it should be taxed.

If a 'ticket' was issued, they would get it first. They would have some bloody cheek if they divulged your name after lending you the car in the first place.
mortonjag 2006-07-05 14:48:33 I'll be gobsmacked if Portugal beat France tonight, and I wouldn't be surprised if Italy win the final.

It's interesting to see how the influence of experienced guys like Zidane, Barthez, Del Piero, and Totti helps the younger boys.

Remember those guys are still playing with la creme de la creme in their thirties.

So at what age do you become too old for the Scottish second division?

mortonjag 2006-07-05 15:04:41
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 4 2006, 09:26 AM) [snapback]153152[/snapback]

I agree with you regarding his age - he is only 32 - Paddy Connelly was 36 and Derek McInnes whom a lot of posters on here wanted is 35. He is a very good player at this level but my only concern is that he is pretty injury prone.

If he could stay injury clear, he would do a great job for us.

The man I would really like if we could get him is Jim McIntyre (now aged 34) He is a good player and the seaason before last scored 16 goals in 38 appearances for a pretty poor Dundee United side. I see he is still unattached.

Exactly, players like Bobby Collins, Bobby Evans, and Doug Cowie, were doing just what we need when they were in their late thirties-by those standards McIntyre's just a youngster.
mortonjag 2006-07-06 09:53:09
QUOTE(capello @ Jul 5 2006, 11:51 PM) [snapback]153716[/snapback]

cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Jul 5 2006, 11:19 PM) [snapback]153707[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
Is it just me or do any other fans think the news we get off the offical site is shocking. I have been on many other teams sites and most of them including smaller teams than Morton keep there fans up to date on what is going on nearly on a daily or 2 daily basis. Even during last season we were reading items in the newspaper's that we should have been reading the day before on this website. So Morton over to you remember it is the fans you need to rely on do not treat us as second class citizens
Big deal mate,any morton fan worth their salt knows this is the place to be for all things morton,as someone said its the way the club wants it to be and all the moaning on here wont stop it,I would like it to be better but I only need to come here to find out the word on the street or whatever willowman is making up laugh.gif ...

You're right capello, but you're missing the point-the official site is our National advert-where non Morton people go-and what must they think-the squad list doesn't even include Jamie Stevenson for example-it's a public disgrace, and IMO they should either revamp it or scrap it completely.
mortonjag 2006-07-06 10:07:23
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 5 2006, 09:54 AM) [snapback]153489[/snapback]

I'm not defending him, but this is yet another great idea for our now weakened squad.

We can't attract players, bar one who's team were getting relegated to Div 3.
Other seasons we've manged to attract current SPL / or ex SPL.

So let's get rid of The Big Man as well.

Will we have any strikers left at scapa if he goes mellow.gif

Mind you it will bode well for McInally's excuses next season by saying 'We only have one recognised striker'.

Excellent excuse froom a man who for the 2nd season in a row is promising us the title.

Spoonsy was, is, and always will be a striker. Hopefully McInally has realised the error of his ways and will start using the players natural strengths.

McGregor-a LEFT back?
Finlayson-an ATTACKING midfielder?
Spoonsy-a DEFENDER?
Millar-a DEEP midfielder?
McAlister-A LEFT sided player?
Templeman-never allowed to play a roving role which is his best and most productive-and so on.

We desperately need an experienced holding midfielder-almost as much as an experienced manager-Dougie gave McInally enough to win promotion, and ultimately HE didn't produce. Give the players a break.
mortonjag 2006-07-06 10:19:56
QUOTE(1insert_player_here @ Jul 6 2006, 10:11 AM) [snapback]153773[/snapback]

Yes.
Yes.

Spoonsy has been a competent defender because he was forced to play there-but the guy is a natural striker. It's not surprising you can't see that if you think Finlayson can attack. The boy has his qualities, but over the half way line he's a waste of space 90% of the time.
mortonjag 2006-07-06 10:27:11
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 6 2006, 10:14 AM) [snapback]153774[/snapback]

I wasn't having a go at the players just saying we CAN'T afford to get rid of The Big Man.

You should know by now I'd sack McInally before ANY of our players.

I agree with the rest of your thread, as will most others, although maybe not publicly.

I wasn't having a go at you-just picked up on the 'single striker' theme from your post.

I can't understand the sheep mentality who keep praising Spoonsy's defensive talents. He was assessed as a forward turned defender, so people made extra allowances for a guy whose performance by second division standards was pretty good, but not outstanding.

The fact is that the boy's form and confidence had dipped up front and he had no choice but to do what he was told.

Get him back up front where he belongs, and let's stop all this panicky sh*te about needing another striker.
mortonjag 2006-07-07 07:36:02
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 7 2006, 12:35 AM) [snapback]154066[/snapback]

I agree with Andy here.

Morton's official website shouldn't be some smelly goth's college project.

Was Einstein not once a 'smelly Goth', Bob?

The present crowd haven't a clue about the image they are projecting, or if they have they don't give a f*ck which is worse.

Who cares who's behind the scenes as long as the site's improved?
mortonjag 2006-07-07 07:43:29
QUOTE(Flash Gordon @ Jul 6 2006, 12:04 PM) [snapback]153808[/snapback]

At the risk of offending you all I feel it is worth pointing out a few home truths about Big Chris. I have no doubt that he is a nice guy and I`m sure when he signed for us we all had high hopes that he would ensure promotion.
However the reality is that he can`t cut it....primarily because he lacks certain basic qualities to be a player. Firstly and fundamentally he has no pace which is a prerequisite......I have tired of hearing people trumpet on about not playing to his strengths....total mince! Secondly for a big guy he is useless in the air as he has no spring in his jump nor can he outmuscle defenders. Which brings us on to the third point.....he has no physical strength. Fourthly he hangs on to the ball for an age with his interminable twists and turns...by which time any potential chance has been lost. Finally his scoring record with us has been abominable. He has missed so many chances in crucial games...Stranaer away 2 seasons ago and Gretna last season in the final minute spring to mind.
I`m sure he hoped going back to his old team would raise his confidence....no goals in half a season was the outcome! I have no doubt he hoped that he wpould do well and the move would be made permanent. Unfortunately for us all it didn`t and we will be stuck with him for the remainder of his contract as no one else in their right mind would pay the wages that we`ll be paying him...£800pw basic?
Now this does not make me a booboy....just someone who does not delude themselves unlike some of you out there!
The main question for me is...whose idea was it to buy him...the chairman or the manager? If it was the chairman then he should now be fully aware that he is no judge of a player. If it was the manager then it probably justifies the sack given the level of finance wasted as well as inhibiting any potential signings. It probably explains the lack of transfer activity in the summer and the efforts at signing players past their sell by date.
Now I`ll get off my soapbox and you can all tell me that I`m a traitor, dont support the team, will I admit my mistake after Temps bangs in 30 this season....blah blah blah. Bottom line is the guy is not a player!!

Bottom line is he was knocking in goals at Brechin, and leopards don't change their spots.
mortonjag 2006-07-07 07:48:40
QUOTE(Patrick Bateman @ Jul 5 2006, 04:23 PM) [snapback]153599[/snapback]

Slight obsession?

Nothing slight about it PB-and what's wrong with it-any of those guys would have taken that crowd by the scruff of the neck in the first Peterhead playoff, and made them play their arses off. We'd be in Div 1 now, if we'd had somebody like them.
mortonjag 2006-07-07 07:55:17 I'm going to stick my neck out here-it's not personal-but Jim came here with only coaching experience-HE IS NOT YET A FOOTBALL MANAGER

I only hope that he's on a fast learning curve, but if last season is anything to go on, I doubt it.

And if he really has a say in signings, why is he not plaguing Mr Rae with requests-I have a sneaky feeling it's Mr Rae who pulls all the strings.
mortonjag 2006-07-07 15:42:55
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 7 2006, 11:27 AM) [snapback]154106[/snapback]

Unfortunately Mortonjag, times have changed. When Morton signed Bobby Collins to see out his playing days, we were relatively a much bigger club, on a par with your Motherwells, Thistles, St Mirrens, Falkirks. At the same time the Scottish league was much more respectable internationally and we could have a meaningful Anglo Scottish cup where our teams could play English First Division (the equivalent of the Premiership now) with a reasonable expectation of winning. Tell me a Scottish league club outside of the old firm and maybe Hearts who would have any chance against a mid table - no any Premiership club nowadays.

In the sixties and seventies we signed players from Serie A (Lief Neilsen from Atalanta) Jorn Sorensen from Metz in France, Bobby Collins came from Leeds and we regularly signed players who were first teamers at the likes of Hearts (Wille Allan) Kilmarnock (Joe Mason). These guys were all (apart from Collins) players in their prime, not over the hill or failures at their clubs.

We just can't do that any more, even if we got to the SPL. The facts are that TV money going into the game, especially in the big countries like France, Italy, England, etc has allowed them to progress miles beyond the capabilities of the Scottish League. Bosman has not helped either.

That's life and we just have to live with it.

Doug Cowie and Bobby Evans came earlier when we were getting back on our feet-just like we are trying to do now, AND they were both 'over the hill'.

Nothing has changed in terms of the experienced midfield general principle. I agree that the financial side is very different, but I cannot see how hard it is to pick up a seasoned campaigner at Division 2 level.

Don't forget that the influx of foreigners has also forced more home grown players into the lower leagues.
mortonjag 2006-07-07 15:53:01
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 7 2006, 03:47 PM) [snapback]154182[/snapback]

I was'nt arguing really about the need for a midfield encourager - an experienced pro to shout at and cajole players when things are'nt right. The point I was making was that I think Morton's days of signing the likes of Bobby Collins direct from Leeds are over. In principle you are right. Its just whoever we get will not be of that calibre.

Fair enough, but you made the point yourself-we're playing at a lower level-we could surely pick somebody up for half what we paid for Big Sanny.

To be honest the lack of action scares me a bit. Do players not want to come here, or is the club about to make a stunning revelation! sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-07-07 15:55:36
QUOTE(mickaspic @ Jul 7 2006, 03:46 PM) [snapback]154180[/snapback]

I think Div has hit the nail on the head with his post.

Andy is in a no win situation with the club. He cannot say to Douglas Rae, here is your website. He has to deliver what his client asks. What I feel is going wrong is that the client (Mr Rae) does not understand what product his customers are looking for.

While the webcast and video clips are excellent facilties, that is not what the majority of the Morton faithful want from the official site. What we want is a professional looking site that is regularly updated. The official site should be the first stop for all news Morton, and for me its the last place I look for any info.

I also find the site difficult to navigate. The club shop section in particular isnt something I enjoy viewing, and as I live outside Greenock this is where I would love to do my shopping. However I have never bought an item from the site, due to the cumbersome layout.

I am in no way getting at Andy but I think Mr Rae has to give this some serious thought. I notice that there is loads of advertising space available. Would a site that receives an increased amount of hits due to regular updates not be easier to sell space on?

Anyway, virgin post over

Mickaspic

I agree with what you say, but am led to believe that Mr Rae has an excellent website for his sweetie business, so why the difference?
mortonjag 2006-07-07 16:00:53
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 7 2006, 12:33 AM) [snapback]154064[/snapback]

Good luck to Jason.

I know i'm in the minority but imo he was the most under-rated player at the club.

Played second fiddle to 'names' all season-couldn't agree more. The boy can play football, and our loss is somebody's gain.
mortonjag 2006-07-07 16:11:06
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 7 2006, 03:59 PM) [snapback]154200[/snapback]

I think the problem is that we are a full time club in a part time league. Most full time players play at a higher level and do not want to drop to the second division, plus of course, our full time wages are pretty low as fulltime football wages go. Morton don't want part timers so all we have to choose from are essentially the very bottom end of the fulltime market.

If we were able to sign part timers we would get the pick of the crop because we would be one of the biggest and best paying part time clubs.

As I have said on another thread, if you have ambition, then fulltime is the way to go. I just am beginning to think that we need a combination setup with maybe some part timers.

Failing that, I think our best bet is the loan system, taking on some SPL fringe players.

That's an interesting proposition, IF we can get what we need.

I think the point that's often being missed is that our 'midfield general' doesn't have to be a Beckenbauer in skill-just in mentality.

We still have adequate talent in the existing squad to win promotion if they turn it on consistently-that's why we need somebody they will respect and play for-somebody that can kick their arses during a game, and give them a pat on the head in the dressing room. That's what we lack, and it certainly doesn't appear to come from our 'manager'.
mortonjag 2006-07-07 16:14:38
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 7 2006, 04:12 PM) [snapback]154213[/snapback]

Well why upon his return to Brechin on loan (for almost half a season) did he not score one goal ? It even got to the stage that most weeks he was an unused substitute.

I don't know the answer, but almost all strikers go through a period of goal famine-especially when off pitch matters aren't good.

As most posters say, give the boy a chance. Hopefully he'll come good again.
mortonjag 2006-07-07 16:31:44 The fact is that we should now be in Division 1, and our full-time status would make sense.

There's not much point in opening more old wounds, but we blew it for more than one reason, and now we're a bit of a white elephant at this level.

If you spend wisely you will reap returns, but money itself is no guarantee of success.
mortonjag 2006-07-07 17:43:13
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Jul 7 2006, 05:37 PM) [snapback]154251[/snapback]

One will be the main player we're looking for. So it will be a striker, 3rd choice behind Connolly and Varielle.

The second will be a replacement for Jason, so pressumably another striker or forward/winger.

So we'll be content with the midfield as it is-'striker, striker, striker', FFS we scored PLENTY of goals last season-we WILL sign an experienced midfielder.
mortonjag 2006-07-07 17:58:06
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Jul 7 2006, 05:53 PM) [snapback]154262[/snapback]

McInally doesn't see a problem in his midfield or defence, or at least Stevenson solves any problems there may have been in the midfield.

He only wanted 1 player, a striker, before Jason decided not to sign on again. Now he needs to replace him too. I honestly don't expect us to sign a midfielder, nevermind one with any real experience!

Why?-because McInally says so?-or are YOU actually McInally.

Dougie calls the shots anyway, and if he thinks wee Stevenson is the answer to our lack of punch fair enough, but IMO he's just a boy. We DO need experience not f*cking blinkers.
mortonjag 2006-07-07 19:57:42
QUOTE(Flash Gordon @ Jul 7 2006, 06:47 PM) [snapback]154303[/snapback]

I wish you ass...es would wisen up...the guy is kak and up there with the worst players I have seen in a Morton jersey...I repeat that whoever scouted him, recommended him and signed him should be sacked for gross incompetence...unless it was Dougie of course...in which case butt out of things you know nothing about!

He wasn't scouted, or recommended, and you know bloody well Dougie signed him-on the strength of his goalscoring.

I'm sure every genuine Ton fan was latterly disgusted with the whole fiasco, but you just won't let go-either it's something personal, or maybe you're the f*cking ass.

Oh-and if he does knock in twenty or so this season, will he suddenly BECOME a player in your eyes, or would you still prefer some arsehole who looks FLASH but produces very little?
mortonjag 2006-07-07 20:02:46
QUOTE(edd @ Jul 7 2006, 07:48 PM) [snapback]154325[/snapback]

if we get the same points total as last season then we should win the league, but isn't it obvious that if we can only sign 2 players to improve our squad then they should be an experienced midfielder and a striker that'll score loads of goals?

Definitely experience in midfield edd, but I'd prefer a decent winger-as has been pointed out we can score goals, but last season very, very few came directly from wing play-it would add a new option and dimension to our team, and I say that in the firm belief that Spoonsy and Vialli should play a twin striker role.
mortonjag 2006-07-07 20:25:57 Will be evicted from big brother tonight.
mortonjag 2006-07-07 22:43:44
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jul 7 2006, 09:49 PM) [snapback]154362[/snapback]

good point !
get all you sad weirdo's on one thread !! laugh.gif tongue.gif wink.gif

Notice you were quick to join rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-07-10 14:17:44 That was NOT normal behaviour, no matter what the provocation.

He will now be remembered as a brilliant footballing genius, AND the guy whose loopy behaviour possibly lost his nation the World Cup in 2006.

I was watching his body language and facial expressions throughout the match, and thought he looked very stressed from early on.

Anybody can crack under pressure, but at that level from a man of his experience his actions verged on psychotic IMO.
mortonjag 2006-07-10 14:22:17 I'm going to stick a fiver each way on Cowdenbeath-good odds-and I'm sure they'll be at least in the top half come May.
mortonjag 2006-07-10 14:49:08 The whole issue is plagued by anomalies-why can't people just use some common sense and discretion.

I always park in a disabled bay if it is pissing with rain, the store's about to close in fifteen minutes, and there are several others spare, but when it's busy-no way. Those spaces are reserved for people who NEED them.

A significant proportion of disabled badge holders are actually perfectly capable of walking, and or, pushing a trolley fifty or sixty yards-the system's been abused by chancers for years, and that lot spoil things for genuine cases.

Parent and toddler bays are totally different in my book-that's a courtesy-nothing more-but obviously some have taken it as a God given right.

Elderly people who don't automatically qualify for disabled badges are frequently far less able than fit young Mums and Dads who insist on taking their sprogs shopping.
mortonjag 2006-07-10 15:07:11 It's a funny thread, but most of the oldies would probably nominate Sir Stanley Matthews.
mortonjag 2006-07-10 15:14:45
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 10 2006, 03:00 PM) [snapback]154973[/snapback]

I have to disagree with your views on the Parent Toddler bays, parents need that little bit of extra space for prams, buggies and trolleys and to get the kids in and out the car safely, I have on occasion been in the position I could have used these spaces as I had the kids in the car but because there was another adult on board and I was just nipping in and out and not taking the kids with me I have parked at the far end of the car park and walked, these spaces are designed to help and make it easy for people with kids and disabilities not for some lazy bastard or burd worried about getting her hair wet to abuse,

I agree with what you say about the extra space midTONs, but IMO, they don't need to be any nearer the store than other bays. As I said most young parents and their kids are perfectly able to get to and from it, whilst others struggle.

I wonder how many of our vociferous parents would bother their arses using those larger spaces if they were sited in a designated area policed by stewards, but involving them in a wee bit extra walking/buggy pushing?
mortonjag 2006-07-10 15:26:27 Not all OF supporters are bigots, but if you choose to fanny about in an OF top you deserve to be branded as one IMO.

One of my sons supports Rangers, and my daughter goes to Parkhead, but neither of them would dream of making that public statement-'I'm a Hun, or a 'Tim', which automatically goes with those shirts.

They were both born in Glasgow-neither has any religious interest, and they genuinely love the teams they support-AND sadly there's nothing I can do about it.
mortonjag 2006-07-10 15:53:57 Silicone's a handy material-I use it a lot for DIY projects.

It's pretty dense, and that makes me wonder if those plastic titted freaks on 'Reality' TV shows will end up with spinal arthritis.

To put it differently, imagine trying to walk around all day with two watermelons hanging round your neck.

IMO the purportedly ethical surgeons who do those ops should be struck off the register.
mortonjag 2006-07-10 19:41:45
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 10 2006, 05:40 PM) [snapback]155005[/snapback]

You've got too much time on your hands.

2807 v 1733 Boozehound-guess it's the old pot and kettle syndrome again smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-07-11 09:03:59
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 10 2006, 09:34 PM) [snapback]155125[/snapback]

im getting a 12 incher as well as soon as i raise the money to get 4 inches lopped aff

That'll do me nicely thank you ! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-07-11 09:15:06
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 10 2006, 11:09 PM) [snapback]155171[/snapback]

just on the news there. allegedly materazzi said he slept with zizou's mother who was an "algerian whore". bad enough but sure it goes on all the time. the real problem it seems was that zidanes mother was taken in to hospital yesterday and he had been freaking out about it. this would probably explain how tuned to the moon the guy was.

whatever the truth is it's really taken the gloss of italy's win. to me it feels like when greece won the euro's sad.gif

not that the italians or materazzi will give a f*** i suppose

That's about the most plausible explanation I've heard. As I said, the guy was looking stressed long before the incident-but NOTHING forgives his behaviour IMO, and how you can suggest that the loss of such an influencial player at that stage made no difference defeats logic.
mortonjag 2006-07-11 09:23:14
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 11 2006, 12:24 AM) [snapback]155179[/snapback]

Official site take note.

The new lay out is a credit to all involved puggsy but-IF the official site even look, they'll probably think, 'oh that's great, WE have to bother even less now'.
mortonjag 2006-07-11 09:26:06 Ricksen has admitted in the past he's got a drink problem. He seemed to have got things sorted, but last season he hardly figured in the team.

I have every sympathy with the guy, but Le Guen is better rid of him IMO.
mortonjag 2006-07-11 09:31:56
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 10 2006, 05:39 PM) [snapback]155003[/snapback]

Maybe your right and there is nothing you can do about it now, but you must feel you have failed as a parent when you see them week in and week out heading of to the universities of sin, you surely could have done more when they were growing up, shame on you. laugh.gif

My son still comes to see the Ton when Rangers are playing away-to be honest I think if we were in the SPL I might persuade him midTONs, but since neither of the kids has any allegiance to Greenock, can you really blame them when we produce such uninspiring stuff. sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-07-11 09:57:56
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 11 2006, 09:53 AM) [snapback]155219[/snapback]

See what I mean?

Yes sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-07-11 15:15:05 Hands up in the primary class-'Please Miss-he's calling me names' (in French)

Twenty five years later in Berlin-you saw it.

Legend-yes- and a superb player and entertainer. I feel sorry for him, but please stop making excuses for his ridiculous behaviour on Sunday.
mortonjag 2006-07-11 15:27:54 I guess Lindberg and Rajamaki will be playing.
mortonjag 2006-07-11 15:37:35
QUOTE(le_chien_de_la_vialasse @ Jul 11 2006, 03:19 PM) [snapback]155302[/snapback]

ach take that broom out your arse and stop being so self-righteous. never ceases to amaze me how some people expect footballers to behave like the little baby jesus.

if i was french that's EXACTLY how i'd want to lose a world cup - with my favourite player nutting the crap out of some dirty bastard on the other team. zizou's even more of a legend to me now.

it was only a world cup for feck's sake.

Come back Andy McLaren, all is forgiven-one law for the common 5/8ths and another for your God.

As I said, his behaviour was childish.

In any other profession where guys are paid a miniscule fraction of ZZ's salary, equivalent behaviour would see someone struck off and disgraced.

Nothing more self righteous than trying to defend the indefensible IMO wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-07-11 15:45:37
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jul 11 2006, 03:31 PM) [snapback]155307[/snapback]

I'm sure that Zidane is devastated that some Scottish diddy wont forgive his actions. He's probably locked in a Paris hotel ruminating over the thought that Mortonjag finds his behaviour unacceptable.

"Mon Dieu! I 'ave so disappointed some scottish wanq! I must go out and buy some Ferraris and helicopters to make me feel better!"

It's a man's game. The tally was a cheeky poof and got what he deserved. Mon the Zidane.

The cheeky poof tally-as you describe him- scored a great goal, psyched your God into somewhat more human behaviour, and deservedly got a world cup winners' medal.


OK we all accept France really wanted to lose, and ZZ agreed with his mates to go 'fall guy'. rolleyes.gif

Take yer thumb out yer mouth and get a life son-nobody's that perfect.
mortonjag 2006-07-11 16:01:30
QUOTE(le_chien_de_la_vialasse @ Jul 11 2006, 03:45 PM) [snapback]155311[/snapback]

what the f*** are you on about? that's the most nonsensical crap i've read on here in several hours. well done.

Nonsensical crap?

If your hero had done that in George Square he could have ended up with a prison sentence-provocation doesn't justify assault.

As for the 'If I were French-I'd want to head butt some disgusting Italian and GLORIOUSLY bow out of the World Cup' stuff-well it's obvious you're not despite your nominal pretensions.

The French may be hot blooded and emotional, but they're not that f*cking stupid-loosely translated-- vous etes l'homme qui parle la merde sans logique cool.gif
mortonjag 2006-07-11 16:03:29
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jul 11 2006, 03:53 PM) [snapback]155315[/snapback]

Have you been on the drink?

No but ZZ's behaviour on Sunday might have been more explicable if he had.
mortonjag 2006-07-11 16:22:25
QUOTE(le_chien_de_la_vialasse @ Jul 11 2006, 04:13 PM) [snapback]155324[/snapback]

yes. nonsensical crap.

i was texting my mate in marseille throughout the game, and according to him, the bar he was in went happily mental when zidane's headbutt was shown. apparently it took the pain out of losing the penalty shootout. laugh.gif

i wouldn't expect a man of your high moral standards to see the humour in it.

Funny-I could have sworn that head butt came BEFORE the shoot out.
How much did you lose at the bookies-don't worry it's only money. smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-07-12 08:53:19
QUOTE(le_chien_de_la_vialasse @ Jul 11 2006, 04:25 PM) [snapback]155331[/snapback]

no kidding. i can see i'm dealing with a superior brain here.

Why did it take you so long? smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-07-12 09:01:10 I don't think there's any question that full time football is the ideal. The question is whether or not it's worth it at SFL div 2 level.

If you can do a Gretna, fine, and if the bookies are right and we go up, I think it makes sense for us this season.

Remember, also, that Thistle 'did it' when Peterhead deserved to-maybe the extra dimension in those last few days was the difference between part and full time.

The Ton have in some ways been out on a limb for three seasons-we nearly failed from div 3, and have blown it twice from div 2.

I think it's more down to the influence of the chairman on managers than our status-but that's just an uncomfortable gut feeling.
mortonjag 2006-07-12 09:07:59
QUOTE(Inver_Ton @ Jul 11 2006, 09:58 PM) [snapback]155439[/snapback]

yes.

alexander isn't playing.

Thank f*ck-that would be enough to stop me going-sad thing for me is he'll already be wealthy by the time Mileson realises his limitations.
mortonjag 2006-07-12 09:18:09
QUOTE(McCauley87 @ Jul 11 2006, 08:16 PM) [snapback]155407[/snapback]

I would fancy a wee flutter on St. Johnstone at odds of 4/1 thats overally generous from the bookies. I don't think that Gretna will get 3 promotions in a row, they will probably end up second or third though, but according to the bookies they are the favourites of winning any of the leagues in Scotland with odds of 8/11 which is hugely surprising, in my opinion.

I can't understand why you're surprised. Gretna are only limited by the amount of cash Mileson's willing to shell out, and/or when he falls foul of the SPL re ground regulations etc.

What WILL happen this season IMO is that other teams won't lie down to them, and they won't get it nearly as easy, but they'll win it for sure.
mortonjag 2006-07-12 09:32:53
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 12 2006, 09:15 AM) [snapback]155525[/snapback]

Rowan Alexander was the best player on the park by miles in the Collins testimonial, followed closely by Scott McArthur unbelievably.

If Alexander was playing I think it would encourage people to go, not the opposite.

I'm sure you're right-it's just that I can't abide the arrogant prick, and his managerial ability is yet to be proven.
mortonjag 2006-07-12 09:40:28
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Jul 11 2006, 07:05 PM) [snapback]155380[/snapback]

He admitted himself he had had a problem.

Think most of us knew that considering all the things he has done. eg letting off fireworks during the night and also trying to put something thru Neil Lennon letterbox (cannot remember what exactly!)

That was a packet of condoms with simple instructions on their use!

Seriously, it's been well known for some time that Ricksen has a 'drink problem'.

No doubt Le Guen's reaction to his latest indiscretion has precipitated the action, but the guy definitely needs help-there's no hidden agenda.
mortonjag 2006-07-12 16:18:56
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jul 12 2006, 09:44 AM) [snapback]155537[/snapback]

aye, poor wee rich boy with too much time on his hands !!

life must be hard for him !!!

Do you think 'poor wee rich boy' would really make a fanny of himself just for the fun of it?

Aye right-you've either got a blinkered attitude to alcoholism or maybe you're in some kind of denial yourself.

I thought we all flogged this to death when Bestie died.
mortonjag 2006-07-12 16:31:56
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jul 12 2006, 01:17 PM) [snapback]155650[/snapback]

Workshy, lazy f***ers the lot of them. When I was a student I worked 70+ hours a week on top of the 3 hours a week I was at Uni.

Take it that got you some brilliant degree, and you now work seven hours a week, and spend the rest of your time relaxing in opulence.

It takes all kinds-get off their backs. As somebody else suggested, next time you need a doctor, lawyer, or whatever-dae it yersel.
mortonjag 2006-07-17 06:54:26 Arrogant Jews, holier than thou Muslims, and Bush's lot always stirring the pot in the name of peace-Beermonkey human beings are to blame-simple as that IMO.
mortonjag 2006-07-17 07:15:23 I couldn't make the game, but having read the posts it's obvious you can take very little from it.

For me, maybe the most interesting thing is that both goals were scored by players who were consistently out of their true positions last season.
mortonjag 2006-07-22 17:14:33
QUOTE(BigBadSaint @ Jul 22 2006, 05:11 PM) [snapback]159115[/snapback]

correction: its always great to stick it to the great unwashed junkies from up the road in meaningless games but not any competitive fixture for donkeys years laugh.gif

You're a sad wee fanny-what about last season at Skunk Stadium in the cup-remember-penalties-and the jammy b*stards that won
mortonjag 2006-07-25 07:56:14 Thought the team played well in general. Davie McGurn seemed a bit nervous, but after all they are a Premiership side.

Spoonsy was again competent but not outstanding-get him back up front. Alex Walker had a couple of nice touches, but still hasn't regained his confidence. Deano grafted away, and I don't see why he shouldn't be a regular in defence.

McLaughlin does a hell of a lot of work, but his final touch is frequently awful.

Big Temps showed yet again that he CAN play football, and IMO against SU he acquitted himself really well.

In Stevenson, Millar, and McAlister, we have a lot of creativity.

I'm feeling pretty upbeat now, but let's face it, we've been here before-plenty of potential at the season's start-then-fade out.

I still think we need one experienced midfielder to keep the young lads on course.
mortonjag 2006-08-05 21:18:37 Had a good view from stand side, Stevenson cut it back, Millar cleverly dummied it, as he was overunning it, and the Raith player couldn't get out of the road.
mortonjag 2006-08-05 21:24:52 No doubt all his slaggers will just shrug it off and turn on some other victim now. The boy came from Brechin with a proven track record as a goalscorer-leopards don't change their spots. Well done big man. wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-05 23:12:34
QUOTE(1insert_player_here @ Aug 5 2006, 09:26 PM) [snapback]164334[/snapback]

Still want Peter up front ahead of Chris though, eh? rolleyes.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Never ever said I did-check if you like, but Weatherson IS and always will be a striker, and YES, he should be up front, but not instead of Sanny. They've never been given the chance to play for long enough together IMO.
mortonjag 2006-08-06 11:45:59 Two separate issues here IMO

1/ Should the club do something in remembrance of the 'Bogey Man'-I definitely think yes-and they can still do it.

2/ Forgetting that for a moment, what did the Chairman hope to achieve yesterday ????? mad.gif

Are you pleased with the new signings, he asks--muffled response.

Are you up for it?--muffled response.

We (I) really need your financial support this year as Bells have gone--even more muffled response.

What was that all about? I'm beginning to wonder if the old sweetie wife's got dementia, or does he think we're all mindless muppets.

Dougie, if this year, you at last give us consistency on the park we will walk this league. That's what'll get us motivated-not your boring ramblings.
mortonjag 2006-08-06 11:57:41 Deano would never claim to be the most skilful player in the squad, but IMO he always puts in a good honest shift, and occasionally shows nice wee touches going forward.

The boy's still young, and didn't get much of a shout last season.

Given that Finlayson (where am I supposed to play) is out for several weeks, I think the time has come to establish the boy on the right side of defence, and finally get Spoonsy further forward where he belongs.
mortonjag 2006-08-06 12:12:36 If anybody thinks you can take much from the first couple of games, he hasn't been watching football for very long.

For a start, how good-or bad- are Raith? We don't know yet. Gordon Dalziell's a good manager, and still has a semi full-time squad. Yesterday we beat them comfortably, but the scoreline just reads 2-0

There's always an element of luck when a team scores six or more-I'm sure Mixu's got a good squad, and like some others I predicted they would be 'up there' this season, but no way are they going to be 'banging them in' every week-watch this space.

I'd be more worried about Ayr-great start and Vareille leading the pack.

As for Gretna-don't read too much into that one either-Hamilton are a young side still trying to find a blend.

At the end of the season, the pony tailed one will probably have bought success yet again, but only after getting his arse felt several times-oh and booted ignominiously out of Europe by a REAL football team from Ireland smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-06 12:20:14 I've always thought David would come good and the boy hasn't had his troubles to seek with injuries, but frankly he's playing out of position, and IMO is no better now than he was in the third division.

He lacks inspiration, is frequently slow, and often guilty of unforced errors. Maybe time for a wee rest, or a change of position.
mortonjag 2006-08-06 12:25:35
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 6 2006, 12:43 AM) [snapback]164449[/snapback]

TBH I thought the Cowshed looked about normal, but our bit of the stand, IMO, was a lot busier than usual.

I agree. I always sit in the same seat and can usually 'sus out' the crowd to within a couple of hundred.

There was a very slow build up yesterday, but as the ground filled up it definitely looked more like 3000.
mortonjag 2006-08-06 12:27:10 mad.gif
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 6 2006, 12:21 PM) [snapback]164538[/snapback]

Agreed, looks like mortonjag is back to his grumpy self

mortonjag 2006-08-06 12:52:12
QUOTE(MaxCliffordTon @ Aug 6 2006, 12:47 PM) [snapback]164563[/snapback]

I think the point PieHutt was making was that if the Trust has money then it can buy the shares as and when Mr Rae wishes to sell.

I have to say that the crowd felt far more than 2,500. Call me cynical, but new season, still playing in the second div, no league sponsor, lower revenues all round.....

Nothing cynical about it MC-those were my thoughts too-and Dougie's thinly disguised bleat for money said it all.
mortonjag 2006-08-06 13:14:03
QUOTE(giz @ Aug 6 2006, 12:32 PM) [snapback]164551[/snapback]

Your having a laff here are you not.......he was one of the best performers yesterday!

Explain-sure he looked OK but he wasn't tested. Every time he's up against a tricky winger he looks slow, and makes unforced errors. Added to that, apart from the VERY occasional run forward, he's totally uncreative and always telegraphs his passes.
mortonjag 2006-08-06 13:22:51
QUOTE(MaxCliffordTon @ Aug 6 2006, 01:03 PM) [snapback]164571[/snapback]

Being totally honest, the one downside in yesterday's performance was Chris Millar's constant moaning. Keep an eye on him in the next match.

I think someone on here has mentioned an Elite group of players...it appears to me that thats still very much the case - can't really remeber who the others were, though Peter was suspended...

For all the crap in the papers about not wanting to end up in tears at the end of the season; to avoid crying on his mum's shoulder, Millar should consider whether the constant bitching, to big Temps in particular, is a good example to set to the rest of the team and whether it's conducive to the overall team morale / performance. Clearly, Millar still considers himself much better than the rest of the team - esp big Temps.

Mr Millar should be careful - has done exceptionally well in the past for us, but he hardly covered himself in glory last season (frustrated / played out of position, or otherwise) and I don't really recall him doing much yesterday.

Millar may or may not be a girning faced little b*stard, but to suggest that he was remiss last season is just daft-just look at stats and independent match reviews-NOT this site-if you don't believe me.

I was disappointed with him yesterday, but don't forget Stevenson has picked up a lot of the workload.

Furthermore, it was his brilliantly executed dummy that got us the second goal.
mortonjag 2006-08-08 07:31:57
QUOTE(stubaws @ Aug 7 2006, 08:16 PM) [snapback]165106[/snapback]

think most of us have been wanting millar at right wing back for ages!

keenan will never be a world beater but he played well on saturday and therefore should keep his place for the brechin game. if mcinally drops him after one game because weatherson is available again it'll just send out all the wrong messages to the rest of the fringe players - i.e. "cheers for busting your arse out there and playing well but *add player name* is back now so just you go back to the bench again til im struggling for players". cant say i'd be too chuffed with that, especially after being there for as long as keenan has - he cant really be called a young lad just breaking through anymore.

That's exactly what I was getting at-we played competently on Saturday-possibly better than we think, as Raith are as yet an unknown quantity this season. Keenan was playing not too badly for us a couple of seasons ago, but like many others-the two Walkers for example, he spent much of last year running the touchline.

Because big Temps has rekindled his form, and McGowan and Lilley are also there, I guess there's little chance of Spoonsy being moved forward at the moment-Thornton will no doubt be delighted, but I think it's plain daft.

I read an article early last season-can't remember where, in which Weatherson stated quite clearly he had agreed to move to defence reluctantly in order to get a regular game. That, of course, was at a time when his striking form had dipped just like Sanny's did last season.

The fact is that in persisting with his 'holy cow'. McInally is depriving somebody else (not necessarily Keenan) of the chance to mature into the role Spoonsy has been forced to take.

Does anybody remember when Spoonsy came here at first-Williams was rattling them in, and in no time Weatherson had caught him up.

One more point, Millar was signed from Celtic as a right wing back-you just suggested he could be played there. With Stevenson now in the squad, I think that's an excellent idea. I know he's lightweight, but look at how Hagi did at Falkirk.
mortonjag 2006-08-08 07:41:45
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ Aug 6 2006, 09:14 PM) [snapback]164750[/snapback]

Davie is still not fit and still has a little groin strain and only played because peter was out. He will be rested for the game in mid-week.

I hope you're right-as I said at the start I did rate David a couple of seasons ago, after which he's been plagued with injuries.

The fact is that he has NOT regained his form.

I did not criticise his performance on Saturday, but I simply think that with so many others knocking at the door, it may be time to rest him.

His performances recently have been rather pedestrian IMO, and if it's because the boy's not fully fit, why is he on the park?
mortonjag 2006-08-08 21:51:44
QUOTE(Bryan @ Aug 8 2006, 09:36 PM) [snapback]165655[/snapback]

Thats one distraction out the way.

Distraction from what Bryan-more like deja vu if you ask me-full time club, two new signings, we should have everything going for us, and we blow it YET AGAIN.

Several of us have been crying out all summer for somebody to motivate that lot-and- ZILCH-and it's perfectly obvious McInally's learned f*ck all in that department. Just not good enough IMO. mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-11 06:18:18 What Mr Mileson-you're NOT going to give us double the bonus we got for the Scottish Cup!

Oh well, see if we care.

Good shot Mr Alexander-by the way who was that big team that gubbed you in Europe--Derry----who??

Oh I see Ireland's in Europe as well-just like Gretna's in Scotland smile.gif

LIVING THE DREAM-AYE RIGHT-F*CKING EXPOSED AT LAST

C'MON THE SAINTS (PERTH ONES !!!!!)
mortonjag 2006-08-13 15:51:54
QUOTE(NorgieTon @ Aug 12 2006, 09:44 AM) [snapback]167118[/snapback]

And we are still in the second div and he is still a make shift left back.
Its been proved he can't play centre half, not big enough or strong enough,
at one time i thought he might have had a chance in mid field but he has not shown enough on his occasional forays forward.
He has not improved from the boy stage as Jimaldino has.

NorgieTon laugh.gif laugh.gif

Exactly the point I was making in the thread earlier-he needs rested, and sure-if he achieves full fitness try him again, but he is NOT a left back IMO.
mortonjag 2006-08-13 16:28:16
QUOTE(edd @ Aug 11 2006, 04:39 PM) [snapback]166892[/snapback]

i don't think it's especially embarrassing for scottish football that gretna lost so heavily - no-one who's outside looking in is thinking that gretna are our top team or anything, it's a top irish premier league team against a newly promoted scottish 1st division team ... derry finished 2nd in the eircom premier league, gretna finished 1st in the scottish 2nd division last year - if gretna won then irish football would have been disgraced, it's only brooks mileson's sycophants (including the scottish media) who believed that gretna were the favourites.

i'm ecstatic that they got thrashed so convincingly, everyone associated with gretna fc were badly in need of being brought back down to earth.

Brooks Mileson's sycophants and Alibi
mortonjag 2006-08-13 16:37:49 It's funny, I spent all of last season trying to highlight the ludicrous nature of Mileson's toy, and got pelters from many of you on this site-even as they robbed us of promotion-BY BUYING IT.

Very few of you dared to support me-some called me jealous, and talked about sour grapes, yet now they've been exposed everyone is 'having a laugh'.

Well it IS funny, but last season it certainly wasn't.

I reiterate-they BOUGHT promotion at our expense, and as far as I'm concerned idiot Mileson, and untested ('til now) laugh.gif 'they didn't obey my instructions' Alexander had this coming-so get it right up them.
mortonjag 2006-08-13 19:10:56 Like others, I was impressed by their late run last season and tipped them to be 'up there' this year.

As others have pointed out, second division clubs traditionally do well if the blend is there, even if resources are limited.

Having said that, it's highly unlikely they can maintain this kind of momentum for long.
mortonjag 2006-08-13 19:16:29
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Aug 13 2006, 05:56 PM) [snapback]167851[/snapback]

You jealousy knows no bounds.

As for the robbing us of promotion, are you 5 or something. We've outspent virtually every team in this league for the past 3 seasons and delivered fck all - I take it you're quite comfortable with us buying it but losing it on the way home.

Jealousy my arse-if he'd done it at Ayr, or Raith for example-yes I'd be jealous, but the man's an idiot in footballing terms, and has done Scottish football NO favours.

As for fiscal matters, Gretna spent more last season than the whole second division INCLUDING Morton, and that takes no account of unofficial bonuses and sweeteners.

If East Stirling had been on that kind of money, they'd have had a damned good crack at division 3!

Money talks TaunTon-well it does up here in Scotland anyway tongue.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-17 12:59:42 I didn't get to the game but everybody seems to think super defender Weatherson had a less than inspiring game, yet the boy won the match for us by SCORING TWO GOALS.

In the newspaper yesterday he was described as a striker, which of course he was, is, and always will be.

Open your f*cking eyes once and for all McInally, and get the lad back up front where he belongs.
mortonjag 2006-08-17 13:18:34
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Aug 17 2006, 01:04 PM) [snapback]169405[/snapback]

His goals were both from set-pieces though. I don't know where he is of more use to the team. Would still love to see him in midfield with the following formation.

-----------------------McGurn-----------------------
-----------Greacen--Harding--McGregor----------
Millar-----Weatherson----McLaughlin---McAllister
---------------------Stevenson----------------------
------------Templeman-----Lilley/McGowan-------

I wouldn't argue with that except we're fairly well off in midfield right now. Why not give the boy five or six games up front-I really don't think he'd let us down.

I know everybody'll start shouting about whom we'd have to drop up front, but it's a squad game, and the current 'strikers' havent exactly been rattling them in so far.
mortonjag 2006-08-17 19:45:36
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Aug 17 2006, 03:16 PM) [snapback]169460[/snapback]

That's not the point I am trying to make. The point is that he was only shouting encourgement to Templeman and none of the other players. If he wants his team to do well, he should be shouting it to every player on that pitch wearing a Morton strip, not just Templeman.

He's a Ton supporter like the rest of us-if he's shouting from the stand where the players can't hear him. he's entitled to shout whatever he likes IMO-and anyway, that's where he should be.

The trouble with Dougie is he's a meddler-that's why he and McGraw didn't see eye to eye.

He should be the 'money man', and leave the management to those he pays, but the old sweetie wife always has to have his neb in there, and I honestly believe he's shot himself in the foot more than once because of his inability to delegate.
mortonjag 2006-08-18 07:50:58 All credit to the Blue Brazil-they're trying to play attractive attacking football, and so far it's worked.

Because of their limited resources, part time status, and so on, it's likely that they'll take a dip at some point in the season, and IF we can maintain consistency we should win this year, but anybody who thinks this coming cup tie is a walkover needs his heid looked.

Our defence will get a right good testing, and that may be no bad thing IMO-how I'd love to see a right back at no 2, a left back at no 3, and a genuine old fashioned sweeper behind two central defenders who understand each other-oh well-dream on rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-18 09:01:59 Can't remember the year but the game's described in 'More Morton Greats, if you want to read it up.

We were three nil down to Celtic at Scapa with about twenty minutes to go, scored three to level-AND Bertelsen nodded in the winner with a header from a free kick-BUT the ref had blown for full time as the ball was in mid flight-any of you older guys who were there will remember the heartbreak of that day.

Any ref who tried to get off with that nowadays would be strung up-but in those days the Old Firm was probably even more powerful relatively than now.
mortonjag 2006-08-18 09:18:06
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 15 2006, 11:27 PM) [snapback]168887[/snapback]

The guys behind me were screaming for McInallys head. Their basic reason is that they feel that instead of deciding how he is going to play and signing players for the positions needed, he has signed players and then tried to fit a team structure around them. I don't necessarily agree with that but there is no doubt that we do have players appearing to play out of position and Walker, for all he has not let us down the last couple of matches, is not a fullback, particularly a left back. He and McAllister had very little understanding of what they were supposed to be doing and who was covering what areas. Any attacks Dumbarton had came from that area.

It was even worse when they were going forward.

I think we have good players and of those on the park tonight, Stevenson was clearly the best on show. He was subbed in extra time when it look as though it would go to penalties and I would have had him as my first PK taker. I can only assume he was hurt.

The next best in my opinion was Templeman and he seems to get subbed every game after about 65 minutes to give Lilley a game. I thought when McGowan went off, Templeman would get the ninety minutes but no, Mclean replaced him and we immediately looked less dangerous. Lilley had not a bad game but I think I would have put McLean on for McGowan because that was a much more like for like swap and I reckon McLean and Templeman would suit each other better.

I would certainly stick with McInally but some of his decisions/formations I find a bit mystifying.

I do not agree with abusing the man verbally at a game. He is trying his best, and that kind of behaviour never helps.

Having said that, I'm sick of waiting for him to turn into a manager-frankly I think he's clueless about motivation, has never heard of tactics, and given his choice would have a 'utility player' in goals as in every other position.

We'll probably win this year, and he'll get the credit, but it'll actually be down to the strength of our squad versus the rest. If we want to GUARANTEE promotion, we should sign a proven manager right now IMO.
mortonjag 2006-08-18 20:06:09 It completely defeats logic that so many seem to be happy to 'protect' the minnows-what are you lot going to Scapa for-you'd be as well watching the Port Juniors.

I'm sick of watching s***e part timers who as often as not piss on us in front of a couple of hundred of their lot and five times as many of ours (I'm talking about away games here)

Dougie's spot on-forget the fairy tale stuff-if you want to see a successful Ton playing at a level they are entirely capable of (it's been done before), we've GOT to go for this.

FFS our nearest away game this season's at Ayr.

Whether you like it or not successful football teams can only evolve if the financial climate remains favourable.

SPL 2-DEFINITELY wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-20 17:36:24 We'll win this league in spite of, not because of McInally.

We've got a squad of bright and talented youngsters running about like headless chickens, and I'm sick of it.

We need an experienced manager RIGHT NOW IMO
mortonjag 2006-08-20 17:42:30
QUOTE(20stu06 @ Aug 20 2006, 05:41 PM) [snapback]170939[/snapback]

changing a manager coz of one poor result this season is a complete over reaction !!! huh.gif

He's not just been here for a week stu-have you forgotten last season's debacle?
mortonjag 2006-08-20 20:04:34
QUOTE(MEXTON @ Aug 20 2006, 07:44 PM) [snapback]170999[/snapback]

I REALLY FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE WHAT I AM READING ON THIS THREAD.JIM MAY NOT BE THE MOST EXPERIENCED MANAGER AROUND ,BUT REMEMBER HIS HANDS ARE TIED AS FAR AS BUDGET IS CONCERNED,HE HAS TO BRING IN UNTRIED YOUNGSTERS WHEN EVERYONE KNOWS WE NEED SOME OLD HEADS.WE ARE STILL TOP OF THE LEAGUE WITH NO GOALS CONCEEDED.IN MY OPINION JIM IS DOING WELL UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES.HE ALSO HASNT LOST A 13 POINT LEAD AND IF IT HAD NOT BEEN FOR THE LEAGUE MANAGEMENT MESSING THINGS UP WE WOULDNT BE IN THIS GOD FORSAKEN LEAGUE.WE FINISHED LAST SEASON WITH A GOOD TOTAL AND SOME PEOPLE BLAME THE MANAGER.WE DIDNT LOSE YESTERDAY, WE WONT WIN EVERY GAME ,WE WILL DRAW GAMES ,WE WILL LOSE GAMES BUT WE WILLSTILL WIN THIS LEAGUE.JIM IS BRINGING IN YOUNGSTERS AND THESE YOUNGSTERS ARE STARTING TO BLEND WITH THE MORE EXPERIENCED PLAYERS AND BELIEVE ME WE ARE ON THE WAY TO HAVING A VERY GOOD TEAM .GIVE THE MANAGER A BREAK,GET BEHIND THE TEAMBUT FOR GOODNESS SAKE STOP COMPLAINING BECAUSE WE ONLY DREW-.
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If Jim had left before the Peterhead playoffs and somebody else had taken over with the same end result-EVERYBODY at Scapa would have been wanting to lynch him. Anybody should be able to beat a Ford in a Ferrari, but when it came to the crunch, McInally managed to get them misfiring on all cylinders.

This season-forgetting the league for a moment (which we're only topping because Cowden slipped yesterday). our performance at Brechin was lamentable in a cup that could have earned us some status and much needed cash, and last season's also rans-Dumbarton took us to the wire-oh and IN the league it's actually 3 for us and 2 for the opposition.

I think it's most of you lot that need the reality check.
mortonjag 2006-08-20 20:12:35
QUOTE(axeman @ Aug 20 2006, 08:10 PM) [snapback]171011[/snapback]

I think it's time your computer broke again MortonJag

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mortonjag 2006-08-20 22:29:20 I am astonished that I've had so much bad mouthing-not from the usual blockheads- but from several posters I normally respect-just because I've dared to suggest a change.

'If it ain't broke, don't fix it', I agree with that, but I'm frankly not interested in statistics that show we've scored 3 goals, dropped 2 points, and by default are heading a league of part timers with part time managers.

What does concern me is that when we need to pull out the stops-twice in play offs last year, and more recently against Brechin, we've been found wanting. Even lowly Dumbarton all but humiliated us, and the football we've been playing (except in wee bursts) has been totally unimaginative and uninspiring.

I did not say that Jim is a paedophile or something equally distasteful, nor do I dislike the man. In fact his generally pleasant personality may be part of his problem.

All I have suggested is that somebody else could do the job a damned sight better, and I stick by that, and I'd even go as far as suggest you could pick that man from the present 2nd or 3rd division 'bosses'.'
mortonjag 2006-08-21 08:00:11 Well, that's 56 posts now, and we seem to fall into three camps
1/ The blinkered who think McInally's the best thing since sliced bread

2/ Those who think and hope he's going to improve, and are worried that replacing him would have a disruptive effect.

3/ ME

Well, I'm willing to accept that, and I'll be delighted if things do improve, but I honestly think we're no better now than at the beginning of last season.

Some of the more recent posters have at least had the balls to point out the glaring deficiencies but not to suggest a change for the better.

One question-IF we were to have the chance of a PROVEN manager right now-I'm not talking about Le Guen or Strachan-just somebody from the SFL with a good track record-Ian Stewart and Dick Campbell spring to mind, how many of you honestly would knock it back?
mortonjag 2006-08-21 08:19:21 Deuchar's a big strong boy with good positional sense and timing,but like many others, I think he's been found wanting at a higher level.

He may be a doctor, but he's also one of the dirtiest barging, shirt pulling, and cheating attackers I've seen for years, and I was astonished he got so few cards last season.
mortonjag 2006-08-21 08:58:02 The writing was on the wall early on-I can't remember-think it was Millar or Stevenson was just about to burst over the 18 yard line with the ball at his feet, and he was unceremoniously ditched. Two yards on it would have been a dead cert penalty, yet he didn't even show a yellow.

His booking of Greacen for a perfectly timed challenge was equally ridiculous. Like Ian I noticed his contemptuous response to Temps putting his hand on his shoulder. And no extra time-inexplicable.

Having said all that, I'm not suggesting he was favouring Ayr-he probably just 'couldny get intae the polis' cos he was too wee and saw refereeing as second best. mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-21 09:13:22
QUOTE(Savo @ Aug 20 2006, 09:38 PM) [snapback]171067[/snapback]

My mate noticed that little spat from a distance and we wondered what had happened. Peter should have known better than to react like that.

However, it strikes me as out of character and might even be more down to his own frustration at his performance, to be fair.

I wouldn't agree that he is taking us for ride. I'd say he's honestly committed to the club and he is not someone I'd level a lack of humility at.

I actually think he displayed a really good attitude last season considering the uncertainty about his position, even sometimes being moved about time after time during matches but just getting on with things anyway.

He puts in plenty of work and his mistakes are honest ones. He also seems to be pretty loyal to his team mates and manager, which is a good thing. On the pitch last season he was the closest thing we had to a leader and, in my opinion, was pretty much the club captain in all but name.

I understand he's been diplomatic in public about his new found role in the team, in that he does not believe defence is his most effective position (which I would entirely agree with him about). So I'd say he also deserves credit for getting on with things instead of carping about it publicly.

He also threw himself into coaching the kids at the club and as far as I know they found him to be a very encouraging and a positive influence.

I'm sure he regrets his wee outburst yesterday. Probably not as much as the penalty right enough!

Savo, I didn't get to that game so I can't comment on the incident, but I agree with you-Spoonsy doesn't exactly come across as an Einstein, and I think his attitude to playing second fiddle to other 'strikers' has been commendable.

It absolutely astonishes me that McInally persists with this 'holy cow' of Weatherson-super defender. What the f*ck's going on behind the scenes at Scapa.

Just by the way, I think the most arrogant wee prick at the moment is McLaughlin-a tireless worker sure, but one of the most unimaginitive and unproductive midfielders I've ever watched, yet he struts about as though he owns the place and is constantly in the other players faces.
mortonjag 2006-08-21 09:26:14
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 20 2006, 09:29 PM) [snapback]171064[/snapback]

The thing that bothers me the most is the way we play. It is horrible and last season I was prepared to tolerate it if it got us out of the hell hole that is the 2nd division but it didn't.

Watching Morton is like a punishment and if the team continue to play the same way the crowds will plummet which we are already seeing. After the signings and momentum of the third division we were getting crowds around the 3200 / 3300 mark now that down by almost 1000. I can only see it dropping as there are no big teams to play against and the long ball stuff is dreadful.

I took my wee brother to the Raith Rovers match in which Andy McLaren scored the last minute equaliser last season. He hadn't seen Morton since McInally took over and he asked me why Morton were so crap and boring now.

I agree entirely-on Saturday, as far as I could see the Ayr goalie only had to make one good save from a McAlister cut back, and we had no more than four or five corners in the whole game. I never leave before the end of a match, but many did, AND there was booing at the end.

I don't care what anybody says, there is something far wrong behind the scenes-I have my own suspicions, but whatever it may be, it needs fixed, and soon.
mortonjag 2006-08-21 09:30:38
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Aug 20 2006, 08:46 PM) [snapback]171037[/snapback]

The exception being when the team are missing them on a regular basis and a tactical "genius" like McGraw has every fcuker having a shot.

Your 'tactical genius' did not too badly, thanks very much, and I for one would have him back tomorrow, for many reasons, not least of which the fact that he kept meddling Dougie in the stand where he belongs.
mortonjag 2006-08-21 10:05:51 I've just read this thread-full of the usual excuses and complaints. We should have everything going for us in this s***ty second division and yet again we blew it.

I hate the 'wee boy' mentality-'we're top of the league and that's all that matters'. We should be ashamed of ourselves-as should Ayr, for producing 90 minutes of boring crap.

Of course we can't expect to win every game but it was the way we lost the point that gutted me. I'd almost have preferred us to lose all three if I'd seen a decent game of football.

And by the way, where are all of the posters on this thread when I dare to suggest McInally's run his course-it's time for a change, and the sooner the better IMO.
mortonjag 2006-08-21 10:13:47
QUOTE(Kenni L @ Aug 21 2006, 10:11 AM) [snapback]171147[/snapback]

Just 1 thing to say, Savo has put that the outburst is out of character for Peter which is wrong as on more than 1 occasion this happened last year. When the game is going on he should not be gettiing involved with the crowd as this means he is not focused 100% on doing his JOB on the park.

Put him up front where he should be.

Spoonsy was, is, and always will be a striker !
mortonjag 2006-08-21 10:17:35
QUOTE(axeman @ Aug 19 2006, 09:39 PM) [snapback]170609[/snapback]

We've never even taken a point up there yet, until next week, he says hopefully.

Ever asked yourself why-couldn't be anything to do with managerial shrewdness could it axeman, and if we do win this week it'll be down to the players getting their arses in gear, and f*ck all to do with McInally IMO.
mortonjag 2006-08-21 10:43:01
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 21 2006, 10:22 AM) [snapback]171152[/snapback]

Aye, a pish one.

We're in a pish division, or haven't you noticed-and who's our top scorer this season-one of our super strikers ? smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-21 10:49:19
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 19 2006, 07:05 PM) [snapback]170458[/snapback]

Yip we could have done with someone like Alex today wink.gif

Exactly, if McGowan had half Alex's pace and reactions, we'd have scored two or three.
mortonjag 2006-08-21 10:57:36 No harm to the wee guy, but McGowan just didn't cut it for me. Plenty of effort and hopefully it's just that the boy isn't fully fit, but he was as frustrating as f*ck as he constantly ran himself into trouble.

AND if it was because of unfitness, why wasn't he subbed much earlier-but wait a minute-on loan from Cellic where Jim (super tactician) was youth coach-only a thought mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-21 11:07:32
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Aug 21 2006, 10:50 AM) [snapback]171158[/snapback]

McAlister had yet another very average game on Saturday... I can't remember him getting by a man and getting a cross in since the season proper started. He's one of several players that seems to be guaranteed a start no matter what, simply because our squad is so weak. Never been a fan of McAlister's, he seems to have 4 or 5 good games each season... not good enough.

I agree, but don't forget the boy's right footed yet McInally (super tactician) insists he's a left winger, or left midfielder, or left something !!!

At his best McAlister's first division level, and his fitness and application are commendable-he'd make a f*cking good overlapping right back for example, but that would be half a dozen bridges too far for the blinkered ex youth coach.
mortonjag 2006-08-21 11:20:57 When McGregor comes back, that'll be yet another McInally (super tactician), can add to his rag bag of misplaced utility players.

He's never a left back in a month of Sundays-if he had fulfilled early promise he might have made a good centre back or midfielder, but that just hasn't happened.

Depite that, we'll probably have yet another right footer on the left the minute he's 'fit'.

What do the more perceptive players think about the f*cking charade at Scapa.

We do not have one full back, nor do we have one winger. We've cried out all summer for an experienced midfield motivator-and zilch. AND half the f*cking squad are played out of their natural positions.

Dougie Rae has the self centred attitude that if he buys something it must be good-well Dougie you're wrong-McInally is not getting anything like the best from those boys-open your eyes and sign an experienced manager before we end up in play offs again at the mercy of Brechin, or Peterhead, or Cowdenbeath, or Ayr-anybody with a manager with half a brain.
mortonjag 2006-08-21 11:44:32 I'd love to be a fly on the wall when the boys get together-but of course they're effectively gagged by Paymaster Rae (Romanov) and yes man McInally (Ivanauskas) IMO

What's blatantly obvious to me is that those boys are dead scared to take any initiative-nobody will take a game by the scruff of the neck-and it constantly seems to be a case of laying the ball off to somebody else in case you make a mistake.

I believe we've got enough talent in the squad to win this league at a canter-all we need is a mute Chairman and an experienced manager.
mortonjag 2006-08-21 11:53:28
QUOTE(Vialli_No7 @ Aug 21 2006, 11:31 AM) [snapback]171175[/snapback]

blink.gif Please take one three times a day.
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED I tried that last season, and I've already doubled the dose mate !
mortonjag 2006-08-21 13:53:26
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 21 2006, 01:14 PM) [snapback]171215[/snapback]

Look mate have you seen a league table this week.

F*ck off and go and look at one!

Yip-AND at the end of last season and the season before.

I also saw the 'game' on Saturday.

Full time squad, with an infrastructure other clubs would die for, and it reads-

Played 3 Goals 3 (+ 2 o.g.'s), and already dropped two points needlessly.

Add to that the fact that McInally was yet again outsmarted at Brechin, and almost blew it at Dumbarton.

When we do well, it's because the players manage to 'get it together' on the pitch-f*ck all to do with management or tactics.

I've been watching the Ton for 46 years, and even in the darkest days, I've never experienced such blatant misuse of available talent.

If you've got a sensible argument to the contrary, let's hear it, instead of your pointless 'one liners' as above.
mortonjag 2006-08-21 14:15:17
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 21 2006, 02:06 PM) [snapback]171241[/snapback]

if your that disillusioned with everything at morton then don't go back until it's sorted !! mad.gif

write a letter or e-mail to to the 'antichrist' (as you seem to think he is) who's running our club, telling him you'll not be happy until we're in the champions league.

seriously, you should be supporting the OF, you sound like one of them !!! mad.gif

I'm disillusioned with the failure to fulfil the promise embodied in our talented young squad-I love Morton and always will.

Which particular 'antichrist' have I to write to, as nobody really seems to know who's 'running the club' at the moment?

I agree I sound like a typical OF supporter at the moment-but with good f*cking reason-that doesn't mean I'd be seen dead paying to get into bigotville smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-21 14:26:28
QUOTE(Ice Cube @ Aug 21 2006, 02:21 PM) [snapback]171249[/snapback]

If that's the case then those guilty should be sent back to their mummies. Bunch of stupid haircut toting fags.

YOU said it-not me rolleyes.gif Mind you they really do need a Daddy figure on the pitch to kick their arses and/or pat their coiffeured little pates as necessary.
mortonjag 2006-08-21 14:34:46
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Aug 21 2006, 02:24 PM) [snapback]171250[/snapback]

He'd disagree with you. In any interviews I've read he's always said that midfield is his strongest position. Can't be bothered replying on the other threads, but I don't think now is the time to sack the manager. If it was going to be done, it should have been done after the play-offs. You mentioned two names that you think might do a good job. Does anyone else wonder why we've never recruited an expeienced manager, other than cowboy?

Fair enough-Spoonsy strikes again from midfield-I'll buy that.

I find your last comments somewhat cryptic-either McInally's satisfactory and we keep him, OR there's no time like the present to offload him IMO.

And can you answer your own question for me?-rumour had it that there was a huge response to the vacancy-I'd be gobsmacked if there weren't quite a few known managerial names in there, but Jimbo obviously conned the board into believing that coaching and fitness equate to success on the field.
mortonjag 2006-08-21 14:51:41
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Aug 21 2006, 02:18 PM) [snapback]171247[/snapback]

Only seen him fail to score once - at Dundee in the last minute of the cup replay where Barry Mason won it in extra time.
Lilley ought to take them if he's on, failing that - Jamie.
Indeed - after promotion to the Premier in charge of a side that would have won it regardless of manager, he took us straight back down. There followed 8 years of stagnation and further relegation to the 2nd. Three good seasons (86-87, 94-95, 95-96) out of 12 doesn't count as "not too badly" in my books.
Oh dear - I can only assume that you enjoyed the trips to Elgin, Albion Rovers, Montrose and such like. unsure.gif

This one's definitely down to opinion AT-of course McGraw wasn't an Alex Ferguson or suchlike, but I strongly believe that with this talented young squad of today he'd do a damned sight better than what we're getting-and he refused to let Dougie Rae f*ck him about.

I've been saying for some time that I think his meddling cramps McInally's style-or put differently any learning curve he might have embarked on has been flattened.

'Mr Rae makes exceedingly good sweeties'.
mortonjag 2006-08-21 15:24:18
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 21 2006, 03:01 PM) [snapback]171264[/snapback]

Ian't believe the OTT abuse MortonJag is receiving on this thread.

He's been supporting and following The Ton for 46 years FFS !!!

If he thinks, and I agree with him, that the management team is blatantly misusing the talent available then so be it.

How can anyone argue against that point when we play High Balls all the time.

The game is called FOOTball for a reason.

I thought the one season under Willie McLean was bad but last season McInally emulated him with his tactics and style of play.

If anyone has a right to air his valid pioint of view it's him he's seen and been following The Ton longer than some of the posters on here put together !!!

It's a forum for all points good and bad - Give the guy a break FFS.

Thanks WillowMan-you've made an old man happy wink.gif

TBH I quite enjoy the banter-and we're all entitled to our viewpoints, but sometimes I'd rather see us play a really inspired game and lose than watch the recent stuff-I don't think we've a God given right to win every match as some have suggested, but I resent paying good money to watch us scrabble our way to the top of a diddy league.

I know the Blue Brazil did us a favour on Saturday, but full credit to them for what they've produced so far on limited resources. Their fans are entitled to be proud of them.
mortonjag 2006-08-21 15:31:25
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mortonjag 2006-08-21 15:43:53
QUOTE(edd @ Aug 21 2006, 03:01 PM) [snapback]171263[/snapback]

i can't understand how anyone can complain about last year's league performance (eg. jonaton) - we were solid, finished 13 points clear of 3rd place and with a total that would have won us the championship any other season, the reasons we didn't go up were cos of gretna (which we couldn't have done anything about even if we didn't underestimate them at the start of the season) and the ridiculous play-off system.

we have improved the squad so there is no reason why we shouldn't at least match what we did last season. so far we've got 7 points out of 9 and haven't conceded a goal (not to mention 3 points away to stranraer, which is never easy) - why are we worrying?

we have played very poorly in the last two games, i'll agree with that, and we all know that the players are capable of so much more (which is probably why we are so frustrated, come to think of it), but we will improve, the team will settle and we'll go on a run of good results etc. it's just the start of the season, i'd rather be playing badly now (don't forget we're still top of the table) and improve as the season goes on rather than get off to a flyer and then blow it after christmas like we did in 03/04.

edd, the board and management had weeks to prepare for the play-offs-and we had two bites at the cherry. I accept that the lads were a bit 'stage struck' in the first Peterhead game, but we blew the chance to redeem ourselves up there.

If that's not a good reason to complain, what is?

I wish I could share your confidence for the forthcoming months, but I don't.

I do believe we will win this league (as you say, there's no Gretna this year), but it would make a pleasant change to do it comfortably, and by playing attractive football.
mortonjag 2006-08-21 16:13:00
QUOTE(1insert_player_here @ Aug 21 2006, 04:09 PM) [snapback]171285[/snapback]

And what did that league table look like at the end of last season? rolleyes.gif

It looked like we'd 'f*cked up again, as we'd been comprehensively gubbed by Gretna for the one guaranteed promotion spot ! mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-21 16:15:55
QUOTE(barry lavety is a fat junkie @ Aug 21 2006, 04:09 PM) [snapback]171286[/snapback]

Come on to f***

I'm deadly serious-no way do I want to blow promotion, or throw away games, but sometimes winning isn't everything-just SOMETIMES I've come away disappointed, but still proud of how my team played.
mortonjag 2006-08-21 16:29:48
QUOTE(Rossco @ Aug 21 2006, 04:19 PM) [snapback]171289[/snapback]

We drew with a team we have a particularly bad record against.
We got beat off a team in the cup that we dont have a particular good record against away.
We took a team that we dont have a particularly good record against on there own pitch to extra time & guess what we won ok we didnt win empthatically but we won surely thats what counts.

It should be addressed why we cant beat these teams & seem to struggle a lot against them.

After 3 league games unbeaten we shouldnt even be entertaining the idea of new manager coming in.

This might sound like a really eccentric idea but why not look at the positives & not the negatives.

All I care about presently is that after 3 games we are top of the league everything else is insignificant at this moment in time.

Imagine a player reading this & going f*** me we are top of the league & people still complain.

Rossco-c'mon-you don't really think the players are that naive-it's more likely they're reading this stuff and thinking 'f*ck me'-just what we've been saying in the dressing room for weeks'.
mortonjag 2006-08-21 18:09:08
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Aug 21 2006, 05:05 PM) [snapback]171303[/snapback]

Ayr usually hump us ? They beat us once in the league last season. Okay, it was 4-0, but we beat them TWICE in the league.

Yes, and if I recall, Ayr at least in a couple of those games played fairly positively, and scored a couple of nice goals, so it was really sad to see their utterly spoiling tactics on Saturday, but IMO that's no excuse for an inept performance on our part.

As I've said elsewhere, the boys ran around most of the time like headless chickens, and the way I saw it, nobody was prepared to 'go it alone'.

I remember one occasion, fairly late in the second half when McLaughlin did take the initiative, laid the ball off and sprinted forward waiting for a through pass on the deck, but it was pushed wide and another chance blown.

And those substitutions? It was obvious from early on that young McGowan was struggling-he could easily have come off letting, say, Kenny McLean play wide and fast on the right against a no 3 who had already been booked. I'm not suggesting that would have made a difference, but at least it would have shown a wee bit of imagination. It was the same with Sanny-he wasn't having a bad game by any means, but it was obvious from early in the second half it wasn't his day, so why not bring Lilley on then, and force the Ayr defence to regroup, instead of waiting 'til their confidence of a draw at least had mounted.

I said to my brother at half time that we really needed a change up front as we had done nothing-what's the point in having a squad if you don't use it?
mortonjag 2006-08-21 18:19:35
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Aug 21 2006, 06:04 PM) [snapback]171325[/snapback]

This reminds me of the Billy Stark era. When we had Wright and Thomas plus about 9 other defenders. Players played way out of position - Twaddle was always a winger, never a centre forward. The tactics were very negative and with probably the best bunch of players we've had since the 95/96 team. McInally has done better with less than Stark and Stark had way more experience. We are top of the league, zero conceded, not sacking material so get a f***ing grip retards. Doogie Rae single handedly keeps this club going and without him we'd be no better than a Brechin or Forfar. Yes, I know Brechin have had promotion more recently than us but lets face it, our ambitions are slightly more lofty than theirs and at least we have the potential to fulfil our ambition.

McInally has failed to get us promotion twice, and there is no evidence he's learned a thing since he arrived. There's no point in comparing him with Stark, or anybody else in an attempt to defend his lack of managerial ability.

As for your totally disjointed comments about Dougie-we all know he's keeping us in the black right now, but if he had employed a decent manager from the word go we'd be self sufficient by now.

Brechin and Forfar are both nice wee places with a combined fan base about the size of the Port-as long as the Ton are enjoying even moderate success our potential is vastly superior.
mortonjag 2006-08-21 18:48:08
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 21 2006, 06:33 PM) [snapback]171329[/snapback]

Right your points are all valid enough on their own. Sure, we could have played better on Sat but if 0-0 at home to Ayr is our worst result of the season (that calls for the manager to be sacked!?!) then I'll take that right now. We aint going to win every game but we will def win enough of them - if you want to put 100 quid on it with me then be my guest!

But the fact is, we had a good season last year and got fcked by the rules. 70 points will romp this league with a couple of weeks to spare (I happen to think we'll get about that number again).

McInally has also not had a great budget. He came in and had to get rid of a few big money earners. Added to the fact that the Templeman signing was no doubt forced upon him and used up a lot of cash. He's picked two gems in McGowan and Stevenson!

He has brought a lot of players on really well and the depth coming through from the youth set up looks impressive. You can't say that Jim doesn't deserve credit for that.

I also think his tactics have impressed more than last season. Some great changes against St Midden and Stranraer really got us into these games.

Also - it is really difficult to play against a team who play a bank of 4 and a bank of 5 in front of goal. Basically man marking every midfield player and leaving no passes on - basically why we hit too many frustrating long balls! Any other day we would have taken one of our chances and probably won at a canter but it was not to be.

I will also re-iterate my previous statement WE ARE TOP OF THE LEAGUE!!!!!!!! which make all your criticisms irrelevant as even with all those dreadful flaws you have picked in our club we are still good enough to get it right up boo boys like you and do well!!!!

I was actually digesting your comments piehutt-I'm sure some of the points you made are valid, but then you went and spoiled it all by saying something totally stupid.

Top of division 2 after three games (and only because Cowden slipped) proves SFA and in no way makes my, or any other posters criticisms irrelevant.

Secondly I take exception to your statement that I have picked flaws in YOUR club, and that I am a 'boo boy'. This is MY club as well, and a club I have supported probably since before you were born-furthermore I do not 'boo' no matter how disgusted I am, but I do reserve the right to criticise inept management when it stares me in the face. Maybe by the time you're my age you'll have attained that ability too. wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-27 21:02:59 Seems to me we all kind of lost the way from big Stu apparently telling me to 'shut up' !! smile.gif

Stu-I'm delighted with four 'shut-outs' in four league games, but I've not altered the general opinion I expressed after the Ayr debacle-which WASN'T specifically directed at you and your fellow players.

I didn't make Peterhead, though I gather they were surprisingly poor, but I'm looking forward to Tuesday.

If the past is anything to go on, this'll likely end in another anti-climax, but maybe-just maybe, we're about to achieve some consistency. Anyhow, good luck to the boys.
mortonjag 2006-08-28 09:00:44
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Aug 27 2006, 06:57 PM) [snapback]173488[/snapback]

Why?? A totally average footballer that was usually anonymous every time he actually got a start.

Nonsense-we've had this debate before. The boy's goal tally per hour on the pitch for us was actually quite good-he linked well with other players, and he'd run at defences at times when that's what we needed.

Like others, he didn't get the chance to establish himself, but IMO, on form, he is well above average for division 2.
mortonjag 2006-08-28 09:19:47
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 27 2006, 07:31 PM) [snapback]173512[/snapback]

Tbh folks the Ton attendances have been very average this season.

Just goes to show what a few seasons of mediocrity in the 2nd division can do to turn fans away.

That is a great crowd at Starks - long may it continue.

Raith have a reasonable fan base, Kirkcaldy being a fair sized town, and remember they were in the Premier League not so long ago.

Hopefully we can drag a few more fans out for future games. Also - atmosphere has been terrible so far as well.

Exactly-what's so surprising about a local derby attracting that number-and look at the crowd at Dumfries yesterday?

It just shows that 'Provincial' clubs like Raith, QOS, AND the TON have the potential to survive if the climate is right.
mortonjag 2006-08-28 11:06:57 I expect the crowd to be nearer 3000 as we had a good result on Saturday, and very few got to that game.

Predicting the result's harder-on paper we should win, but look at our cup form in the last three seasons.

The Blue Brazil will take it to the wire IMO-I just pray we ARE fired up and do ourselves justice.
mortonjag 2006-08-28 12:35:23
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Aug 28 2006, 12:02 PM) [snapback]173685[/snapback]

I suppose that's why there was a whole raft of clubs north and south of the border wanting to sign him up when he left us. He couldn't even win a contract at the Stanley.
blink.gif If you say so.

OK, Oh wise one-he was total pish, consistently failed to score despite being an ever present in the team, and got kicked out by the Ton as soon as they got the chance.

Why do guys like you have it in for someone once he's gone-nobody's saying he was World Class-he was still pretty young, and looked raw at times, but the boy can play football, and our loss'll be somebody's gain in due course.
mortonjag 2006-08-28 12:47:32
QUOTE(lush @ Aug 28 2006, 11:26 AM) [snapback]173659[/snapback]

i think if you are fully comp you candrive any car. not 100% sure though. sure someone on here will know.

Entirely depends on the insurance company. Most cover you (3rd party only) to drive a car not owned by you, leased to you, or 'bought' on H.P. by you, but not all. Always check the documents.
mortonjag 2006-08-28 14:02:25
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 28 2006, 01:19 PM) [snapback]173724[/snapback]

All clubs have the potential to survive as long as they live within their means and are run prudently. Look at the likes of Brechin flirting with division 1 every so often - a great achievement for a club of that size.

You're correct of course, but I should have said 'Thrive', which I intended, rather than just survive.
mortonjag 2006-08-28 14:09:22
QUOTE(Rossco @ Aug 28 2006, 12:50 PM) [snapback]173707[/snapback]

The only mention of it is saying I can drive a car loaned by garage for period of 7 days but since its a bank holiday in england am unable to phone Norwich Union up & ask them.

Maybe it is linked to my 3 page rant about the handling of my claim that they are not answering the phone to me.

I've just changed from the Norwich-I got a good quote, but like you, was surprised to find I wasn't covered to drive other vehicles, except as in the wording you mention.

Incidentally, I got great service for renewal on line from Confused.com, and am now with 'More Than'.
mortonjag 2006-08-28 14:12:38
QUOTE(maurtaun @ Aug 28 2006, 01:00 PM) [snapback]173716[/snapback]

I just got a new tyre the other day, from the big red and yellow building at tesco petrol station, it cost £39.

Depends what you need but cheapest for non budget tyres is to buy on line and have fitted locally by one of their accredited companies. Best are MyTyres, and Black Circles.
mortonjag 2006-08-28 14:19:40
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 28 2006, 01:38 PM) [snapback]173737[/snapback]

While we are on cars.

I have a 206, and a while ago lost my wing mirror to either vandals or another cars wing mirror.

Arnold Clark said a new one will be £80 but fck that! Anyone know a company that may source a mirror and fit it for a bit less.

Also - paint work needs a bit of attention but thinking rather than just getting it touched up may be an idea to go for a re-spray. Anyone had this done, how much would you reckon it would cost.

Being a bit lazy I know, but if anyone knows advice would be much appreicated.

Depends on so many other other factors-there's no point in getting a 'cheapie' re-spray if you mean to keep the car for long, and a decent one won't be that cheap.

It's certainly a hassle, but the 206 is a fairly common car, so you should be able to source a mirror from a scrappie. Some of the big ones are now on line, and deliver nationwide. They're not hard to fit/replace.
mortonjag 2006-08-28 14:33:03 Years ago this was changed to ENCOURAGE teams to score and make the game more attractive, and anyhow, those rules only come into play in the event of points being equal after a long season.

We used to have goal average, which meant (in theory at least, as I'm exaggerating to make the point), that a team with 30 for, and 15 against, would have been promoted in favour of a club who scored a whacking 80, but conceded 41.
mortonjag 2006-08-28 14:39:57
QUOTE(Laura_w @ Aug 28 2006, 02:31 PM) [snapback]173763[/snapback]

Hibs v Gretna
Queens Park v Motherwell
ICT v Falkirk
St Johnstone v Dundee United
Kilmarnock v Livingston
Dunfermline v Rangers
Celtic v St Mirren
Alloa v Hearts

Nice to see Gre£na with an SPL club now-we don't want any further embarrassments in Europe from the biggest joke in British footballing history.
mortonjag 2006-08-28 14:46:48
QUOTE(maurtaun @ Aug 28 2006, 02:40 PM) [snapback]173767[/snapback]

number 1 when you were born.
For me, it was "Especially for you - Kylie Monogue and Jason Donovan"

Ageism rears its ugly head again-I think the 'Number One' when I was born was probably 'The White Cliffs of Dover' by Vera Lynn, as we'd just won the 2nd world war, and to the best of my knowledge 'hit parades' hadn't been invented. wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-28 14:55:11
QUOTE(TonFan @ Aug 28 2006, 02:45 PM) [snapback]173769[/snapback]

They wouldn't get into Europe through the CIS Cup anyways.....

With Mileson's money, anything is possible, they're 'living the dream', remember, or at least they WERE.

The 'bigger' they get, the more they'll be found wanting-nothing lasts for ever, not even his dosh.

Mileson's an eccentric idiot in footballing terms-look at yesterday-a huge crowd at Palmerston, most of them from Dumfries not Gretna-and he could easily have bought QOS and REALLY done something in Scottish football.
mortonjag 2006-08-28 15:09:47
QUOTE(TonFan @ Aug 28 2006, 03:02 PM) [snapback]173778[/snapback]

Mileson's money or not, they wouldn't qualify for Europe through the CIS Cup!

I know, but remember it was supposed to be a DREAM.

Apparently there was a bus outside the Derry City ground last week with a big banner on it saying-


'GRETNA-STICK TO WEDDINGS'---- biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-28 15:21:21
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 28 2006, 09:06 AM) [snapback]173623[/snapback]

Aye, the singing was pretty loud. They don't have a lot of time for Rowan in Dumfries - odd when he once took them to the Challenge Cup final.

Why's it odd Alibi, or are you tongue in cheek?

Let's face it, we can all be a wee bit jealous of the moneyed at times, but when they put their bought successes down to their own talent- that's really rubbing your nose in it.

Alexander got his first real test at Raydale against Derry (accepting that Hearts had a completely off day at Hampden), and he blew it big style.

He then had the pig headed arrogance to blame his players for 'not obeying his instructions'.

The guy is a self satisfied prick, and until he tries to manage a real football club (he wasn't that great at Palmerston), he'll remain lost in misplaced self belief
mortonjag 2006-08-28 19:54:02 IMO this has f*ck all to do with a purported religious gesture, and even less to do with the Scottish Catholic Church.

You had a stupid wee Polish footballer deliberately winding up the opposition fans-whether or not he understood fully what he was doing doesn't matter, and IF crowd violence HAD erupted as a result, he would have been directly responsible.

What have the police done wrong in nipping this kind of thing in the bud?
mortonjag 2006-08-28 20:10:46 Just discovered this thread. This has NOTHING to do with populations going up or down, and I'm surprised that intelligent posters have been gulled by the usual political whitewash.

This HAS to do with a callously pragmatic downsizing of our Health Service by our 'Labour' government, past masters of the justification of the unjustifiable.

Incidentally, I spent a lifetime working in the NHS, and-'NO', I'm not a Tory either. mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-28 20:15:07
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 28 2006, 08:04 PM) [snapback]173918[/snapback]

Speaking of his age, did anyone else see his picture in the Herald today? He looks around nine!

He does indeed, but how well he models the new strip, don't you think! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-28 20:49:02
QUOTE(hugo_swire @ Aug 28 2006, 08:43 PM) [snapback]173939[/snapback]

yep, boruc gesturing would justify normal sane people rioting.

bollocks

Who said anything about 'NORMALITY or SANITY'?

If you think you know more than the Glasgow Polis about how little it can take to spark a mini riot among that lot you're as daft as the latter! wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-28 22:25:26
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 28 2006, 09:21 PM) [snapback]173962[/snapback]

I'm the board's Tory rolleyes.gif So plainly I'm not going to defend Labour but.......

Since Labour have come to power they have more than doubled the spend on the NHS in real ( inflation adjusted) terms.
Clicky

Lies, damned lies, and-what Tom?

You can't have it both ways-they may have spent more, but they've clearly delivered less and less.

Let's see that massive spend dissected, and then we can all jump on the inter city express for a big dose of anti-emetic at the nearest hospital!
mortonjag 2006-08-29 07:42:42
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 28 2006, 02:30 PM) [snapback]173762[/snapback]

I've been particularly impressed with Harding this season. He reminds me more of the guy who was playing just when we bought him. I thought he looked a class act at that point.

Maybe its the case that Harding and Greacen have finally began to develop an understanding of each others game.

When young Harding arrived he was confident, classy, and had just left an SPL club.

I know we've been girning about long balls, but he was one guy who could drop them on a postage stamp-THEN- well it all went kinda pear shaped-the game up at Firhill was maybe the best example when he and Greacen were getting in each others road all day, and big Santala totally took the piss.

It was clear to me that like so many others at Scapa last season-and I really don't know why-his confidence took a massive dip.

I've always admired big Stu, but his game hasn't really improved that much, and I think he's found his level. Ryan, on the other hand still has the potential for bigger things IMO.
mortonjag 2006-08-29 09:32:35
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 29 2006, 09:17 AM) [snapback]174053[/snapback]

Apart from the Hearts game, where Hearts didn't perform because Gretna wouldn't let them, Gretna have also had good performances against a number of SPL or first division teams - Dundee United, Dunfermline, a total demolition of what at the time was a decent Clyde team, away win at St Johnstone, and beating St Mirren who were at that time leading the first division, so I don't think you can be too critical. PR maybe isn't Rowan's strong suit, but he has put together a useful team, and he works very hard. I think Davie Irons has a lot to do with it too. It isn't all about money.

Aye right-and gubbed twice by Forfar, and us (from the second division)-I agree it isn't ALL about money, but I think any journeyman division 2 manager could have achieved just as much if not more given the resources at his disposal.

The man has not had to compete on a level playing field Alibi-Derry themselves only claim to be able to 'hold their own' in the middle or lower section of the SPL, yet when it came to the 'biggie'-the pinnacle of the dream the media created-super Ro blew it big style, and blamed his players.

I think more and more people are opening their eyes to what's really gone on at Raydale, and accept that Mileson is possibly harmless and misguided, but in my opinion the writing was always on the wall. Gretna never could have been, and never will be self financing-end of story.
mortonjag 2006-08-29 09:54:03 Cup ties frequently produce crazy results-just look at Queens Park last week.

We are the favourites for tonight's match, but the Blue Brazil have come out this season with all guns blazing-they have nothing to lose, and we ALL know they will be desperate to put one over us.

I have said repeatedly that we have the most talented squad in this league by far, yet their inconsistency has broken our hearts time after time.

We didn't get that Mr Motivator most of us wanted, so we're left with young boys who need inspiration, self belief, and appropriate preparation.

If this is a ding dong and we give of our best and lose, I'll accept that, but if yet again we blow it-questions will definitely need to be answered of our management team.

I'm not normally a pessimist, but the last couple of seasons have been pretty painful.

Let's hope they've finally got it right.
mortonjag 2006-08-29 10:05:08 When I was in my teens and twenties, the top five or six sides in the old English First Division (now the Premiership), were loaded with Scots exports-including managers like Shankly, Busby, and Revie-there's nothing new in this phenomenon-I just think that for some reason Scottish football's gone through a long lean patch, and hopefully things are improving.
mortonjag 2006-08-29 10:08:52
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 29 2006, 10:04 AM) [snapback]174067[/snapback]

If we lose tonight I'll blame you!

But then again, I'd rather lose tonight than lose against them in the league, so maybe we can learn alot tonight!!

Sean-as I said-if we play well and lose fine-I'll take the blame by all means-but if we BLOW IT yet again I certainly won't, and don't try to pretend you don't know where I'm coming from.
mortonjag 2006-08-29 10:31:46
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 29 2006, 10:10 AM) [snapback]174073[/snapback]

I take it you were not at Peterhead
tongue.gif

part timer biggrin.gif

It's the first away match I've missed for two seasons Sean, and I confess I could have gone but my brother couldn't, and the thought of a repeat of my emotions on that long drive home after the playoffs-on my own- was just too much. Let's face it, the Ayr match wasn't very inspirational!

And to the other poster-yes Sir I WAS surprised AND delighted, but there's nothing melancholic about being disgusted by inconsistency.

Let's face it, I've only stated the obvious, and if we do blow it again tonight, my critics will just have egg all over their faces tomorrow.
mortonjag 2006-08-29 10:36:57
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Aug 29 2006, 10:33 AM) [snapback]174080[/snapback]

I'd like to see us win tonight, but I don't think that this game is as important as the league, and that surely has to be in the back of the minds of the players as well. This is going to be both team's chances of feeling each other out before they go at it for real a week on Saturday.

Nonsense Dom Dom-I'm getting fed up with excuses in advance-there's no better preparation for our young lads than to go out tonight and well and truly gub them. Nothing succeeds like success.
mortonjag 2006-08-29 10:58:05
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Aug 29 2006, 10:39 AM) [snapback]174086[/snapback]

It's not nonsense at all. Are you honestly trying to tell me that this won't be on the minds of the players ? Even if it's not supposed to be, it WILL be. That's the truth of it. As I've said, I would be disappointed if we went out, but it's most certainly not the end of the world.

If the players go out tonight with their minds on a game two weeks away, there's something far wrong at Scapa.

That's exactly what happened when we totally capitulated to Stirling last season a few days before we went to Raydale-and it's up to the management to get those boys focused on one game at a time.

This may be a diddy cup in relative terms, but in no way should it be regarded as match practice.
mortonjag 2006-08-29 11:20:34 Paton-you're talking about people straying from the point-this thread was about Greacen purportedly telling me to 'shut up'.

I've watched the Ton through thick and thin for forty six years, and I have yet to boo, leave a game early, or shout abuse at a player or manager.

Last week, however, on this forum, and with support from other posters, I DID have a real go at the management after the Ayr debacle. I did not criticise the players, yet this thread was started by someone with a personal axe to grind in an attempt to dilute my, and their, valid opinions.

Maybe we should start another one-'Thinking posters tell Super Nanny to shut Up'! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-29 11:45:47
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Aug 29 2006, 11:15 AM) [snapback]174105[/snapback]

I never said they should concentrate on Cowdenbeath solely. Remember we have a league game on Sunday that's far more important than this game with Cowdenbeath tonight. The difference between this game and that Stirling game was that the Stirling game was a league game. ALWAYS more important.

And again, my point seems to be going over the heads. The players will know about the importance of certain games. Whether they're SUPPOSED to or not is a different matter. The fact that they're not machines means that they will have this lingering on their minds. Obviously, you play to win every game, and not once have I disputed that.

I'm afraid we'll just have to disagree on this one-but I repeat- if those boys go out there tonight with their minds on anything other than winning, they haven't been adequately prepared.

Furthermore I don't understand your thinking-why should losing tonight prepare us better to beat 'Beath next time? As far as I'm concerned we should be going out to win every game at this level, and with the correct preparation we are capable of it.
mortonjag 2006-08-29 11:52:21
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 29 2006, 11:07 AM) [snapback]174101[/snapback]

MJ think your reading too much into this, or are you just being a prick as normal?
I'd love to win tonight but couldn't give a toss about this Cup. We are more than able to beat any side in the SFL, but who cares as long as we win our league games and get the hell out of this s***ty division.

Hope your happy moaning about nowt for the rest of the day!!!

If stating the obvious is 'being a prick' then I'll continue to be one Sean.

I'm getting tired of the mentality that justifies crapping out of cup games ''so that we perform better in the league'. Guess our performances against Brechin and miracle escape against the Sons better equipped us for a less than inspiring performance at Stairs Park, and THAT Ayr game-Aye, right.

I'd be much happier not moaning, but I don't see the point in you calling me a prick just because you disagree.
mortonjag 2006-08-29 11:53:18
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 29 2006, 11:48 AM) [snapback]174127[/snapback]

We need to win tonight and win well - and prove that Cowdenbeath are nowhere near us in ability. We have a chance to dent their confidence by giving them a good thrashing. I'll settle for a repeat of our 7-2 win at home against them many years ago - when we needed to win by 6 goals to get through to the league cup quarter finals. Cowden may be on a roll, but we should be able to beat them comfortably. Let's hit them with a couple of quick goals and knock the wind out their sails.

Alibi-don't be a prick rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-29 12:02:39
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Aug 29 2006, 11:31 AM) [snapback]174115[/snapback]

Fed up with excuses in advance but happy to moan in advance! tongue.gif

However you said it yourself mortonjagI'm not saying you don't have a right to complain if the team don't perform, but if we do lose tonight at least you'll be able to have you're moment to gloat! It's certainly one approach to Morton games. On the other hand I believe we will win, I hope we do it while playing attractive and entertaining football, and I'm sure the fans will get behind the team for the full 90 mins! (OK so maybe the third one is being a bit too optimisitic!)

rolleyes.gif ScotinBelgie

My 'moment to gloat'-Scot why would I want to gloat if we blew it yet again-sure I might feel a wee bit self satisfied to see those blinkered critics silenced for a moment-but I take exception to the tenor of your post.

I want the Ton to win every game, and at this level they should be damned near that. The fact that they are not is in my opinion down to mismanagement of resources, rather than lack of skill. That frustrates me no end, and, yes, until things change, I'll certainly keep moaning along with many others.
mortonjag 2006-08-29 12:16:00
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 29 2006, 11:57 AM) [snapback]174133[/snapback]

I think you just bear an irrational grudge against Alexander and Mileson. Who ever said Gretna had to be, or were, self-financing? And when did any team (Arsenal apart) ever go through the season and not lose the odd game or two? As I've said before, it's nice to see someone put a bomb under the stagnant mess that is Scottish football. As for the writing being on the wall, well yes, that look to be the case for sure with Gretna top of division 1. I hope they get the opportunity to put it right up a few SPL clubs.

Alibi-if being just a wee bit angry because we were bought out of promotion last season is 'irrational' fair enough.

Mileson on his own admission, embarked on this flight of fancy 'for fun', and it certainly hasn't been funny for us.

Anybody with half a brain could see from day one that unless he had a hidden agenda, the train would hit the buffers sooner than later.

As for this 'bomb under a stagnant mess' stuff-well apart from earning a few sad sporting hacks some extra dosh with their typical hype, having to borrow a stadium for the dream trip into Europe where they did us proud, and trying to convince the gullible that flinging money at village schools is the answer to Scottish football's woes, they've done f*ck all in my opinion.

Maybe you haven't noticed Alibi, but the tide's already turned, and as far as I'm concerned they can 'get it right up them'.
mortonjag 2006-08-29 12:24:03
QUOTE(Capuan @ Aug 29 2006, 12:06 PM) [snapback]174139[/snapback]

This is the most pessimistic thread I've ever read on these boards. No wonder the atmosphere at Cappielow is crap these days.

Ever heard of cause and effect Capuan-apparently not-the atmosphere at Scapa has f*ck all to do with this forum, and plenty to do with what happens on the pitch.

Come on, people get pessimistic for reasons, not just for fun. Apart from the Peterhead game (and apparently THEY were s***e) we haven't exactly set the heather on fire this sason.

Just two or three consistent games, playing decent football and winning will bring the smiles back and the optimism.
mortonjag 2006-08-29 12:32:32
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 29 2006, 12:21 PM) [snapback]174144[/snapback]

I was not defending the performance- rather pointing out that money has been thrown at the system.

It is, imho, the system which is wrong- the NHS is one of the last remnants of Soviet style nationalised nonsense.

Time we moved towards a system like our European neighbours.

Nothing wrong with the principle, but doomed to failure from day one-I understand all that Tom-but now a political hot potato that no government seems able to handle honestly, and Blair's lot are certainly not up for spilling the beans to a public who still see them as 'Labour'.
mortonjag 2006-08-29 12:52:29
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 29 2006, 12:39 PM) [snapback]174156[/snapback]

Listen ya old git, the team are only as good as their last game! And for now I will take that. As am sure you will under your breath.

We can all go over old ground, and i have as much you, have many scars from recent years!

But as I said, the team are only as good as thier last game and for now am more than happy

Fair enough, let's hope they score a barrowload tonight smile.gif

P.S. If they ARE s***e, on the basis of only being as good as their last game will you join the old git in asking more questions, or still call him a 'prick' tomorrow? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-29 12:57:35 I've not seen 'Beath this season but looking at their scorelines, and with Greacen missing, I'd be happy to see Kev playing a sweeper role.

Anyway, I don't really care if they get a couple as long as we win, and IMO we should be taking the game to them from the kick off.
mortonjag 2006-08-29 13:08:49
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 29 2006, 12:56 PM) [snapback]174169[/snapback]

Listen once a prick always a prick, but I like most change with the team, if they are s***e, well you'll hear Willowman from Hungary shouting for McInnally's head tongue.gif

I know he will!

Is he a prick too, cos he's welcome to join the club-when your team's playing s***e, Sean, a PRICK

Puts
Realism
In front of
Childish
Kidology rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-29 13:25:13
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 29 2006, 12:29 PM) [snapback]174149[/snapback]

Aye, well, we'll see. I'd like to see us hitting the buffers if it means being top of division 1.

I get far angrier about the way the OF permeate Scottish society with their evil ways - but of course that's ok because they've been doing it for years. No one complains they've got too much money and are buying relative success with expenditure that even Rowan Alexander can onlly dream of.

My boy has been a beneficiary of the coaching in schools, something that is I think paid out of Brooks Mileson's own pocket. I don't see even the OF doing that.

Alibi, we agree on the OF thing, but I just can't get my mind round Mileson's fiscal idiocy.

He's a very wealthy and provenly astute businessman, who could have easily done a Romanov for Scottish football, and been much better accepted, but he decided to back a financial loser 'for fun'.

If people are willing to accept that for what it is, I have no truck with them, but those who persist in this 'Vision of a bright self financing future' need their heads looked IMO.
mortonjag 2006-08-29 13:36:05
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 29 2006, 01:26 PM) [snapback]174189[/snapback]

Mortonjag - you really are looking for things to moan about.

You're trying to blame someone for the possibility of losing a game that hasn't even happened yet. UNBELIEVABLE!!

If we lose tonight, we'll still be top of the league with a great team and will have a few less midweek games to worry about. Yes, it would be nice to get a wee cup run and a bit of cash, but the league is the priority.

You won't be happy till we get rid of McInally - well that won't be happening for a while yet so maybe you should just give up and wait for our form to dip. I can just see you sitting there with a sadistic, satisfied grin on your face the day Ayr beat us 4-0.

I notice you still aint taken me up on my £100 bet?

piehutt, I want success for the Ton at any price.

If keeping Jim brings that, I'll be behind him. What I DON'T want is to discover that things ain't much better when it's too late.

As for your bet, You must have posted it when my computer was down, but tell me about it now and I'll get back to you.
mortonjag 2006-08-29 13:42:29
QUOTE(RankinBorn75 @ Aug 29 2006, 01:35 PM) [snapback]174199[/snapback]

Anyone know if it has been confirmed or do they wait to see who is playing ?

It's Gretna v Cowdenbeath-the venue has been moved from Firhill to Hampden to accommodate the crowd, and all Police leave has been suspended for that weekend.
mortonjag 2006-08-29 13:45:58
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 29 2006, 01:40 PM) [snapback]174205[/snapback]

No Willowman is just a steamer, whats your excuse

PS Bubba am spamming big time here tongue.gif

Better a steamer than a dreamer sean!
mortonjag 2006-08-29 14:04:15
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 29 2006, 01:44 PM) [snapback]174210[/snapback]

see there you go again.

Your a doom and gloom merchant blink.gif

Its Morton v whoever, with a gate of 21,000, well thats the Morton end

I was at Morton v Rangers league cup final at Hampden with a crowd of well over 100.000, sean-I'm NOT a doom and gloom merchant-I just want back to something like those days.
mortonjag 2006-08-29 14:06:40
QUOTE(Zatara @ Aug 29 2006, 01:52 PM) [snapback]174219[/snapback]

This is the kind of crap that has got the midden fans pissing themselves at us!

That's the kind of one liner that makes me question people's intelligence. mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-29 14:09:19
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 29 2006, 01:49 PM) [snapback]174215[/snapback]

Better being both!!

I'd rather live life looking forward to things than cutting my throat at the next move I make biggrin.gif

Anyway I suppose your beyond looking forward to anything, being your 90+ and am just a snip of a boy at 32

Not at all-I'm just off into town to pick up my grandson and his mum.

Oh I forgot sean, he's only a couple of years older than you! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-29 15:41:54
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 29 2006, 02:18 PM) [snapback]174243[/snapback]

Listen we all know you where in the rangers end biggrin.gif

You don't want the same as me, you want something to moan about, I just want to succeed

Well sean let me give you a piece of advice, and we'll know immediately if you've taken it.

I learned as a relatively young man that one of the secrets of success is to listen to, respect, and learn from those who have already 'worn the T shirt'.

That's it son. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-29 15:45:04
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Aug 29 2006, 02:09 PM) [snapback]174236[/snapback]

Go watch the Rangers then tongue.gif

Another brilliant one liner-my goodness-we're among the intelligentsia this afternoon!
mortonjag 2006-08-29 15:51:53
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 29 2006, 02:13 PM) [snapback]174241[/snapback]

You sure about that!!

I lied about my age tongue.gif

Anyway my great-great-great gran says Hi, says you were a looker in yir days, it was a pity you where hit by that horse? Should have been a HGV tongue.gif

Tell her a wis askin fur hur tae-she wis no bad lookin an a'-pity she never got merrit!
mortonjag 2006-08-29 16:02:23
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 29 2006, 03:21 PM) [snapback]174267[/snapback]

I don't think anyone is saying it's self financing, certainly at the moment. But then, neither are most teams self financing, us included. Where would we be without Douglas Rae's financial support? It's just a matter of scale; the principle is the same. I would suspect however that Gretna are becoming rather better at developing income streams than Morton are, and I think in the Dumfries area in particular what irks some folk is that they are much much better at developing income streams than Queen of the South.

It is a matter of scale-a scale of potential fanbase, Alibi. Principles can only be applied to viable propositions if they are to prove fruitful in the final reckoning.

Gretna have done extremely well, and are entitled to be proud of their achievements off the pitch, but ultimately saturation level will be reached.
After that, where will they go?

Not even Mileson can keep going above a certain level. Let's face it, the Record this morning describes Cellic as about to invest nine million on ONE player-half a dozen deals like that and the pony tailed one would have to go bust.
mortonjag 2006-08-29 16:14:30
QUOTE(Madton @ Aug 29 2006, 03:51 PM) [snapback]174278[/snapback]

Why the hell do we have to blame anyone for losing a game of football, bloody hell Mortonjag.We have no devine right to win any football match in this league or otherwise. Get a reality check ffs. If we lose tonight big fecking deal, we cant and wont win every game and we dont have to blame someone(in your case, the manager) every game that doesnt go our way. Your acting as if you want us to get beat so you can come on here and say "told ya so blah blah blah".Get a grip and get behind the team!

You obviously don't read my posts. I don't think we've a divine right to win anything-I got slagged off last week for saying that occasionally I'd rather see us LOSE a game if the boys played well.

I'm just totally pissed off with talented youngsters blowing it big style in front of paying customers, and I'm entitled to state that. My personal view is that they are not getting proper motivation and direction behind the scenes, and yes, I'm terrified they'll 'lose it' again tonight. THAT DOESN'T MEAN I WANT THEM TO.

I love the Ton, and it breaks my heart to see such lack of belief, spirit, and cohesion, with no apparent direction from the touchline (as was demonstrated at the Ayr game).
mortonjag 2006-08-29 16:22:01
QUOTE(upaclose @ Aug 29 2006, 02:39 PM) [snapback]174253[/snapback]

Yep, compulsory euthansia for the over 70's. Cut waiting lists instantly.

Euthanasia is voluntary, but I take your point-just disagree about the age limit-let's just murder all Ton supporters whose first name starts with S, and who are aged over five. That takes care of sean-he's probably a wee bit older but must get it right! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-29 16:37:51
QUOTE(El gofer @ Aug 29 2006, 04:26 PM) [snapback]174301[/snapback]

Is this thread for real??

"If we lose tonight I reckon that I will be blaiming........."

What is that p1sh all about??

Who, coming off the back of a cracking result, looks for the worst case scenario in a game like this????

Am sure I will hear you in the shed tonight pal!!!

WOuld hate to be next to you on a plane.....
I totally despair...!!

OOPS-if we lose tonight then I won't blame anyone-it'll just be another act of God-sorry to have offended, but nil desperandum, and carpe diem-c'mon the Ton! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-29 16:40:18
QUOTE(Bryan @ Aug 29 2006, 04:33 PM) [snapback]174306[/snapback]

We have lost how many games to date rolleyes.gif

In which season/s Bryan-quite a lot that we shouldn't have if my memory serves me well-anyhow let's just wait and see I'm ever hopeful of some consistency. wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-29 17:51:03
QUOTE(RankinBorn75 @ Aug 29 2006, 04:17 PM) [snapback]174289[/snapback]

From my experience people who advocate others to listen respect and learn should be ignored !!!

tongue.gif

Did you have a bad experience with somebody older son-don't worry, they're not all like that! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-29 17:52:58
QUOTE(Capuan @ Aug 29 2006, 04:47 PM) [snapback]174317[/snapback]

People who advocate others to listen often enjoy the sound of their own voice.

And people who don't hear are usually deaf, thick or both! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-30 09:04:14
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Aug 29 2006, 06:14 PM) [snapback]174348[/snapback]

Trying to bring a bit of humour to the board, why are you such a fud at times, infact that comes with a CAPITAL F dry.gif

AT I didn't see the funny bit, but it's been such a long time since that schoolboy stuff-sorry! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-30 09:07:33
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 30 2006, 08:06 AM) [snapback]174580[/snapback]

Gidday mortonjag,

who is going to believe that tale.

Next, you'll tell us it was 0-0 at half time.

And to really push out the boat, you'll tell us the the Huns fielded 11 players, who won caps for Scotland.

Whit a fantasy !!

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

Indeed NewTon-those youngsters just think I'm a moaning old B, but when you've supped nectar, condensed milk isn't that appealing.

Trouble is they ain't tasted nothing better! mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-30 09:10:40
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 29 2006, 06:37 PM) [snapback]174360[/snapback]

and don't try to pretend you don't know where I'm coming from.
Gidday mortonjag,

Are you coming from Firhill ??

huh.gif huh.gif

Newton it's to do with a motor-whisper it-or next thing I'll be a toffee nosed b*stard as well! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-30 09:19:15
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 29 2006, 06:41 PM) [snapback]174362[/snapback]

I would hardly call asking for the manager for to be sacked when we are top of the league being 'behind him'

I said that we would win enough games to ensure we won the league. And would be prepared to bet 100 pounds with you on it.

I wasn't behind him and I'm still totally unconvinced. On the pitch last night the boys were stunning for the first while-I'm delighted with it and the goals were peaches, but don't let's all get carried away with it.

McInally knew Mixu (a REAL motivator in my opinion) would have his boys well up for the second half-we should have gone out AND BURIED THEM-say no more, except that on the radio last night and in the press today they're all quoted as saying 'we were never really worried'. Well ten minutes from the end I was f*cking s***ting it.

That's two wins in a row, and I'm thrilled with it, but until consistency is proven I'm reserving judgement.

Oh and that bet-are you taking the piss-if you mention a date by which it'll happen and give me the odds I might be tempted, but what's the point in stating the obvious and trying to steal my £100?
mortonjag 2006-08-30 09:21:14
QUOTE(mangle @ Aug 29 2006, 11:37 PM) [snapback]174546[/snapback]

bet yir gutted mj...
mind you, losing two goals is ridiculous...maybe jim should be sacked!
this cannot continue...

mangle

gutted-no
losing two goals ridiculous-yes-we gifted them both and McGurn should have been off for his stupidity
maybe Jim should be sacked-you said that! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-30 09:32:12
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 29 2006, 10:18 PM) [snapback]174466[/snapback]

I see I'm clearly in a minority here tongue.gif

I was bricking it for a good spell of the 2nd half, thought we couldn't get the ball out of our half and we were liable to concede again.

I don't want it to sound like a downer though, for much of the game we were simply brilliant and every player earned at least pass marks, the majority even more than that.

I also think Millar is going from strength to strength but I realise not everyone agrees with that.

nacho-you're treading on thin ice mate-I just can't believe how blinkered some of our posters are. Last night we were brilliant for the first spell, but even before half time some of them were 'showboating' (Stevenson's cut back for example) and wasting chances.

After half time, and the two gifts we've come to expect, like you I was s***TING IT until the last seven or eight minutes when we found our feet again.

I'm delighted with the result, but we still have to find consistency, and BURY teams when we're up.
mortonjag 2006-08-30 09:36:36
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 29 2006, 10:32 PM) [snapback]174481[/snapback]

Good shout, all three have been good so far this season. I admit I don't see the 100% essential play from McLaughlin that others do but I'm prepared to take their word for it, as well as his continued selection from Jim. (I tend to watch defenders more closely than central midfielders, I guess.)

I see my "Cowden are quite good, really" motion has been roundly defeated. Oh well tongue.gif

Scott has been playing like an arrogant wee prima donna up 'til now nacho and IMO has been overrated, but I took my hat off to him last night-well done son!
mortonjag 2006-08-30 09:40:08
QUOTE(craigeton @ Aug 29 2006, 10:41 PM) [snapback]174492[/snapback]

What tonight showed was the massive difference in class between Mcgowan and Templeman. If Mcgowan had stayed on i think we could have gotten another three but the big man just isn't at the races and was no threat at all. Before anyone starts either way i have no axe to grind with the big man but tonight it was plain to see on that form there is a massive difference in class and i hope Jim is working to get wee paul for the rest of the season. that said we played great tonight i thought Mclaughlin was different gravy and on another night could have had a hat trick. By the way was Jamie Stevenson wearing slippers cos he kept falling on his arse.

MON THE TON.

McGowan was feckless against Ayr-I thought he was carrying an injury but if so why did McInally keep him on for so long. Sanny came on last night to drift off Del-NOT as a striker, and I actually thought he did very well.

OH-and on last night's show, McGowan looked VERY promising.
mortonjag 2006-08-30 09:43:00
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 29 2006, 11:03 PM) [snapback]174512[/snapback]

I sit in the stand close to the hospitality section and generally exit along the touchline which means I am down there as Jim welcomes the players in. I asked about McGowan and was told he had a twinge in his hamstring and Jim decided at halftime that the game was won and not to risk him. He should be OK for Sunday.

I don't know about Alex Walker - I did not hear what was wrong with him.

JIM DECIDED AT HALF TIME THE GAME WAS WON!
mortonjag 2006-08-30 09:47:20
QUOTE(edd @ Aug 29 2006, 11:33 PM) [snapback]174541[/snapback]

i agree that mcgowan and lilley should start, but not because templeman is crap (which he isn't), only because we look more dangerous with that partnership up front. templeman is a completely different kind of player from either mcgowan or templeman but the team don't seem to know how to play the ball to him on the deck. templeman isn't quick and isn't particularly good in the air, but he's great with the ball at his feet, can hit decent shots and score good goals - why the team can't utilise his talents like brechin could is beyond me, but it's not his fault ...

edd you've got it in one-Chris doesn't ever seem to get credit for anything-yet at Brechin he not only knocked them in for fun, but was frequently among the 'assists'. He's at his best playing a roving role in partnership with another striker, instead of being seen as the 'hit man'.
mortonjag 2006-08-30 10:02:10
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 29 2006, 07:18 PM) [snapback]174366[/snapback]

No way was there 7000 at Palmerston. The 2 stands hold 3550 when absolutely full and there were about 100 empty seats for a segregation area. The terracing may have looked busy but there was tons of room - people were pretty spaced out, in the literal sense.

I estimated 5500 based on about 3400 sitting and around 2000 standing.

So somebody down there's still 'living the dream', and up here Dougie's cooking the books to make up for lost sponsorship.

I don't know how often you manage up Alibi, but as you say, i'ts not too hard to get a ROUGH idea of crowds at a familiar stadium-and this season ours have definitely appeared understated.
mortonjag 2006-08-30 10:20:57 I don't really care as long as we get one of the 1st div sides IN the final, because this ones just about prestige-we blew the money at Brechin.

I strongly fancy Hamilton to put one over Gretna and maybe go all the way.
mortonjag 2006-08-30 12:30:06
QUOTE(1insert_player_here @ Aug 29 2006, 10:34 PM) [snapback]174485[/snapback]

Don't agree at all with the 3 going on 8. We were the slightly better team overall but they ran us close. We CANNOT go out all guns blazing in the 1st half then think that it's all over before the 2nd, which is obviously what happened tonight.

Nice to see a bit of reality. We DID play much better football, but the score speaks for itself.

How many times in the last couple of seasons have we been vastly superior, and dropped one or even three points?

In golfing terms, you drive for show and putt for dough, and if we fail to learn how to kill teams off when we're up, they'll always come back at us, and there'll be more sad Saturdays this time around.

That's why I was SO disgusted after the Ayr game.

Last night our actual play showed we are miles above the rest of this division, but by half time I sensed the boys were getting a bit cocky and complacent.

In another post it's been stated that McInally had decided at half time the game was won-well I was watching Mixu Paatalainen just after half time, and he CERTAINLY hadn't!

We've still got a lot to learn IMO.
mortonjag 2006-08-30 13:15:51
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Aug 30 2006, 12:49 PM) [snapback]174661[/snapback]

Rubbish - they are both strikers so a like for like comparison is natural. One scores goals, one doesn't. One can play football, the other can't.

Oh yes-further words of wisdom from the blind one.

The USA and Finland are both countries-'SO A LIKE FOR LIKE COMPARISON IS NATURAL'.

Furthermore, would you like to define a 'striker'?

It's one of the most misused terms in football, and no two people think the same way.

For me the classical 'striker' is a hassling poacher with pace, sharp reflexes, and good with both feet and his head.

From what I saw of wee McGowan last night, he's got the makings of one.

Temps and Vialli are both proven GOALSCORERS but their styles are like chalk and cheese.
mortonjag 2006-08-30 13:30:21
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 30 2006, 01:17 PM) [snapback]174673[/snapback]

I was thinking about this yesterday as well.

Pumping teams in the 1st half is a great habit. Means we can relax a bit in the 2nd half, rest some players and generally conserve energy.

Didn't quite go to plan last night due to a makeshift defence, but fortunately we had plenty in the tank and much the stronger team

Goodness gracious-that's a rather unsubtle way of BLAMING somebody for something piehutt-I thought that was forbidden on the forum.

It was f*ck all to do with a 'makeshift' defence, unless you accept that we've had one all season-ok big Stu was out, but we ain't got a natural full back, and Weatherson's getting found out more and more-no way is he a central defender.

The reason we lost two goals last night was because of two rudimentary errors by established players, and if McGurn had been dealt with less leniently things might have ended very differently.

And 'we had plenty in the tank' Aye right-what you really mean is that with nine or ten minutes to go some bright spark suddenly realised 'Beath might get a draw, and we started playing again.

We were great for much of last night, but let's not get carried away with ourselves. It's back to the drawing board for Alloa, and if we don't apply ourselves for a full 90 minutes, they'll likely as not surprise us.
mortonjag 2006-08-30 13:42:23
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 30 2006, 10:49 AM) [snapback]174627[/snapback]

Why do you think Hamilton will beat Gretna? unsure.gif

Why did Queens Park beat Aberdeen?

Hamilton are smarting from an earlier defeat-they're a proud young team with a good management structure, and this is a cup tie. Any better reason than that?
mortonjag 2006-08-30 13:43:24
QUOTE(craigeton @ Aug 30 2006, 11:15 AM) [snapback]174636[/snapback]

No doubt that will be based on Gretna pumping them 6-0 at the start of the season!!!!!!!

Already replied to nacho on this one.
mortonjag 2006-08-30 13:44:27
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 30 2006, 11:18 AM) [snapback]174640[/snapback]

I think Mortonjag has just got a bee in his bonnet about Gretna.....

Can't see Hamilton doing much, probably be 6-0 again. I think we should keep Gretna for the final.

Bee in my bonnet my arse Alibi-I hate the b*stards. mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-30 13:49:47
QUOTE(Vialli_No7 @ Aug 30 2006, 01:43 PM) [snapback]174691[/snapback]

Jesus F_k! ohmy.gif How did you stop yourself cheering the second Cowdenbeath goal last night?

What happened to freedom of speech and opinions-I take it you disagree with me so why not give us your tuppenceworth-I'm getting fed up with pointless one line outbursts from unthinking twits.
mortonjag 2006-08-30 13:56:10
QUOTE(TonFan @ Aug 30 2006, 01:43 PM) [snapback]174693[/snapback]

You're the most negative f'ckwit I've ever come across. Away play with the buses, ya fud.

Sorry TonFan, for negative f***wit just substitute realist.

If you're happy to have a smile on your face, and a wee warm glow today because the Ton won, that's great, but the facts are as I stated-we've been shooting ourselves in the foot for three seasons, and nearly did it again last night.

Maybe I'm too hard on some of you younger posters mind you. I remember when I was watching the Ton in my Teens, I didn't really care as long as we won, but in those days I didn't have a forum to go on the next day and spout pish to the oldies who'd seen it all before.
mortonjag 2006-08-30 14:00:40
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 30 2006, 01:55 PM) [snapback]174701[/snapback]

We had Finlayson who aint match fit - did a decent job at right back. Walker - sitting in for injured MacGregor. Spoonsy - generally a RB, moved to CB and Harding playing in his usual spot.

Hardly a 1st choice defence - Greacan is outstanding for us and any team would miss a player of that quality. Agree McGurn was fortunate, but after it went 3-2 I can't think of them getting a shot in. Guys on the radio were saying that even if McGurn had been sent off, they still think that we would have been well placed to hold on.

Don't believe everything you hear on the radio piehutt-fact is we were 'mugged' twice when we'd been cruising, and as I stated both goals came from unforced errors by established 1st team players.
mortonjag 2006-08-30 14:03:57
QUOTE(TonFan @ Aug 30 2006, 01:52 PM) [snapback]174698[/snapback]

Maybe you should have concentrated on the game and you might not be so negative.

Unlike you, I can take in the whole picture sonny boy! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-30 14:14:21
QUOTE(Madton @ Aug 30 2006, 02:07 PM) [snapback]174707[/snapback]

Mortonjag, if morton cause you so much discomfort,which we must clearly do by the way you post, then just f*** off, no one will miss you! Your a top draw retard who really aint got a clue...Hey, just my opinion!

ta-I've already judged you by it! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-30 14:27:30
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Aug 30 2006, 02:07 PM) [snapback]174708[/snapback]

Not having a go here, but why do you actually go to the game? I go to enjoy myself and watch a game of (good, hopefully!) football! You seem to be unimpressed with every performance, win lose or draw! Just wonder why you waste your own time if you get that disappointed and irate with our performances!

Tonosaurus-I'll do my best to answer you as you are clearly asking a genuine question.

I agree that I probably SEEM unimpressed, but READ my posts-I do give praise where it's due.

I don't know if you were at an away match at Alloa late on two seasons ago. We hadn't long signed Andy McLaren, and we desperately needed the three points. Alloa played a blinder against us, and we fought back with real spirit but only managed a draw. I drove home alone-disappointed in the result but realising I had actually thoroughly enjoyed the game-the same applied at the Midden last year when we were beaten on penalties.

OK, so I'm not easily pleased, but I object to all this stuff about negativity-I'm an extremely positive person, but positivity and realism don't have to be mutually exclusive.

Incidentally I was absolutely delighted with our general performance last night-I've only highlighted the fact that we were SO far ahead of them but still let them back in. We could ALL have ended up disappointed, and it needs sorted IMO.
mortonjag 2006-08-30 14:33:14
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Aug 30 2006, 02:18 PM) [snapback]174715[/snapback]

I've never seen such a negative poster ? Realist ? Okay, as a realist, you can accept facts.

1) We are top of the league.

2) We scored four goals in the first half on Saturday. We scored three in the first half last night.

3) We just beat the team who are supposed to be main challengers.

Now, as a realist, can you accept that Morton are doing well right now ?

If 'doing well' means just what you stated-sure.

If doing well means blowing it at Brechin, almost repeating that at Dumbarton, flattering to deceive at Stranraer, and cheating paying customers against Ayr-NO.
mortonjag 2006-08-30 14:48:15
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Aug 30 2006, 02:37 PM) [snapback]174726[/snapback]

You are fairly predictable. Go back to those meaningless cup games when the games that matter have shown the fans that Morton actually have a good team. We had a makeshift defense last night, and they managed to look good. One goal could be SOLELY blamed on the goalkeeper, who was pretty friggin idiotic.

3-0 is a good result, no matter HOW a team plays. We beat Stranraer 3-0. We just rear ended Peterhead. We have yet to concede a goal in the league. Yet more facts for you. Realist ? Nah. Pessimist ? That would sum it up.

Predictable-possibly-and maybe that's why the Ton frustrate me so much right now as they certainly ain't.

Pessimist-possibly-and possibly with good reason-certainly a realist.

Meaningless cup games-a total matter of opinion

Games that matter-playoffs (or does that not count now?)

Well you could have predicted all that anyway rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-30 14:50:30
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 30 2006, 02:48 PM) [snapback]174731[/snapback]

I wasn't there last night but I get the impression we cruised through most of the game. The boys obviously took the foot off the gas for a while - they need to learn not to do that at 3-0. At 6-0 it might be ok, but then again this is Morton we're talking about - we are experts at throwing away games and titles.

What we should have done is keep up the pressure to the point where they were so exhausted they couldn't fight back. If we'd done that we could have ended up scoring at will.

Alibi, we don't agree on everything, but you're only stating the obvious, and how some of our posters try to defend the indefensible mystifies me.
mortonjag 2006-08-30 15:05:47
QUOTE(Vialli_No7 @ Aug 30 2006, 02:53 PM) [snapback]174735[/snapback]

Good. rolleyes.gif

I don’t need to give my " tuppenceworth" on here as everyone else is aware or saw for themselves that this season and in particular last night, was a vast improvement on last season. Everyone else seems to have enjoyed a good quality game of entertaining football with Morton being far the stronger of their closest league rivals.

It’s only you who has a strange and seemingly insatiable need to air your absurd fault-finding and inane whining. This “unthinking twit’s one liner" was purely for the purpose of informing you that I, and I’m sure that I’m not alone, find your pious diatribe nauseating and your deluded self importance a constant irritation while visiting this site.

Do yourself and everyone else on here a favour, get with the team, back the manager enjoy the wins and ride the losses. We don’t support Real Madrid, Barca or even Rangers, it’s a local small club with highs and lows and where the standard of football isn’t always great, but it is a great wee club.

By all means have your say and say when and where you have dissatisfactions with the team or management but giving a daily relentless barrage of ridiculous criticism says more about you than it does about this club we all love. Get behind it or go elsewhere.

I am highly honoured to receive your reply oh mighty one-you who speaketh for all-I humbly accept that only I have sinned and that all others have accorded with your opinions.

I promise to emulate YOUR humility in future and not indulge in nauseating pious diatribe.

I acknowledge my deluded self importance and ridiculous criticisms irritate you oh omniscient one-

F*ck off mate-did you not realise you were looking in the mirror.
mortonjag 2006-08-30 15:14:39
QUOTE(Vialli_No7 @ Aug 30 2006, 03:12 PM) [snapback]174744[/snapback]

witty reply "mate" rolleyes.gif

Thanks 'BUDDY' rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-30 15:32:05
QUOTE(hoody @ Aug 30 2006, 03:25 PM) [snapback]174750[/snapback]

love to see this forum if we lose a game........GET A GRIP FFS rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2006-08-30 15:48:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 30 2006, 02:42 PM) [snapback]174727[/snapback]

A 30-year-old Californian woman who left her toddler behind in America to set up a love nest in Perth with a local schoolboy should be deported, a senator says.

Liberal senator Ross Lightfoot wants federal police to "scoop up" Karen Anderson, put her in an appropriate detention centre and deport her.

"This is not Thailand, and is not the other parts of the world where this sort of thing is tolerated," Senator Lightfoot told the Seven Network.

Ocean Reef High School student, James Barry, 17, and the US mum have been living together in Perth for about a month.

They met on the internet about six months ago and fell in love during five months of chatting each other up via webcam.

Their relationship blossomed so well that Karen left her three-year-old daughter with the child's father in California to come to Perth to meet her teenage beau.
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http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=77589

'Liberal' Senator Lightfoot seems a bit heavy handed. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-30 15:57:11 mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-30 16:07:32
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Aug 30 2006, 04:05 PM) [snapback]174758[/snapback]

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mortonjag 2006-08-30 16:08:22
QUOTE(Vialli_No7 @ Aug 30 2006, 04:07 PM) [snapback]174759[/snapback]

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mortonjag 2006-08-30 16:10:43
QUOTE(Vialli_No7 @ Aug 30 2006, 04:07 PM) [snapback]174759[/snapback]

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mortonjag 2006-08-30 17:55:02
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Aug 30 2006, 04:24 PM) [snapback]174771[/snapback]

Mortonjag in anti-Morton post shocker.

In other news, I'm off to have my dinner.

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mortonjag 2006-08-30 19:12:30
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Aug 30 2006, 06:33 PM) [snapback]174812[/snapback]

Incase you're too dumb to figure it out, I was taking the piss out of how negative you are. You seem to ignore every positive.
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mortonjag 2006-08-30 19:41:02
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Aug 30 2006, 07:21 PM) [snapback]174827[/snapback]

Well OK stupid I'll narrow it down for you a wee bit, they are both paid to do the same job at the same club - score goals for Morton. One does and one doesn't. Any striker worth his salt can score with either his head or his foot, after all the perfect hatrick is considered to be left foot, right foot, head (in any order). And you say I'm the blind one!!

Also, your analogy is farsical to say the least. I believe the great Bob Crampsey once hit the nail on the head when describing a striker that couldn't score goals as being like a doctor that killed more than he cured or a plumber that caused more leaks than he fixed. Templeman was brought to Morton to score goals - after all, all we here about is how he was the division's top scorer. He's failed to do this. McGowan was also brought to score goals, he so far has succeeded. What a chump, given your rants about McInally and now going on about Templeman, you clearly know hee haw about football.

The plain fact that you dislike Temps colours everything else-we all KNOW he was bought to score goals, and that may have been a mistake, but it's perfectly obvious he is not a typical 'striker', yet he scored loads at Brechin.

The only 'analogy' I can spot in my post is comparing one country with another-just as you claimed to compare one striker with another.
It's perfectly obvious you can't compare the USA with Finland-but they're both countries-and it's perfectly obvious that Sanny's style is so individual that it's daft to try to compare him with anybody, yet you insist he's a 'striker' by your own definition! That was the very point of the 'analogy'.

Oh and one final point-it's 'farcical' in my dictionary-obviously the 'great' laugh.gif Bob Crampsey didn't teach you in Coatbridge!
mortonjag 2006-08-30 20:22:57
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Aug 30 2006, 07:26 PM) [snapback]174830[/snapback]

I've finally decided I'm going to ignore EVERY negative comment mortonjag makes.

Does anyone fancy taking bets on when he'll say something positive about the team ?

OK-here goes- throwing away a comfortable three goal lead wasn't a bad thing lads-keep up the good work.

By the way Dumb Dumb-that was a wee bit of sarcasm-all your comment deserves since you clearly read only what you want to.

I've always praised the positive sides of our play, and have already done so in several posts today. Please check before you stick your big foot in it yet again. smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-08-30 20:31:50
QUOTE(hugo_swire @ Aug 30 2006, 07:21 PM) [snapback]174828[/snapback]

yes, exactly the point i was making.

So we're seeing the same thing from a different angle-OF fans can be unpredictable idiots, and the Police have to be vigilant.

The goalie either knew and understood what he was up to (as the footage suggests) or he was just being a big daft boy-it doesn't really matter which-his actions COULD have had serious consequences, and I believe the Polis got it right.
mortonjag 2006-09-01 16:38:59
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Aug 31 2006, 08:43 PM) [snapback]175132[/snapback]

Anyone got a serial for this product??

Hi Chris-this is OK if you're still stuck-don't feel guilty-I've paid twice for this!!

GW2GT-2BMT6-BJQ8B-HDX26-77FT7

good luck

mortonjag 2006-09-01 16:45:17
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 1 2006, 03:40 PM) [snapback]175325[/snapback]

Yeah, getting rid of two of the coaching staff, that's certainly put Gretna on the path to economic balance.

The new 3.5m ground development, the 40-man squad, the three youth complexes... that's sustainability in action.

I'm not particularly bothered that the club is anxious to put the best spin on everything. It's the way the media consistently laps it up without comment that really gets to me.

I wouldn't be surprised if Reporting Scotland are down for a few more wide-angle lens shots of Brooks with his god damn llamas talking about how it was Gretna and not Adam Smith that fathered modern economics.

Naughty nacho!-watch your back now! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-09-01 16:48:35 I haven't believed any of this season's 'official' attendance figures-I'll be very surprised if less than 3000 go through the gates on Sunday, but get the feel of the crowd yourselves and then see what they announce! wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-09-01 18:00:27
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 1 2006, 04:54 PM) [snapback]175342[/snapback]

I'm fairly sure that's our David Wylie, aka the Cat.


'EX MORTON HERO WYLIE SNUBBED BY GRETNA-RUMOURS OF CASH CRISIS AT RAYDALE'.

From today's Daily Sh*te

Ex Morton goalie David Wylie has been 'given the boot' by the club he helped to unprecedented success.

Earlier, Gretna supremo Brooks Mileson refused to comment as he sat in his office patting manager Rowan Alexander's head in a reassuring manner, and puffing his 236th cigarette of the day.

Rumours of a massive nationwide betting scam based in the quiet borders village have yet to be disproven.

Gretna shook the footballing world last season, taking the Scottish second division by storm, and landing a plum place in Europe.

Many have suggested that the concept of La Liga style football in this pleasant rural village with it's population of some three to four thousand was simply 'living a dream'.

It seems that now only time will tell.

mortonjag 2006-09-02 14:14:29
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Sep 1 2006, 10:12 PM) [snapback]175438[/snapback]

Nearly choked on my Friday night kebab when I read this....So Mr Rae has started a drive towards self sustainability has he. Ever read the Morton accounts? If it wasn't for Golden Casket we would be back where we were financially when wee s***e bag had the club. Morton owe Golden Casket close on a Million (no pun intended) if that's us on the road to self sufficiency then god help us. Morton have lost money every year since DDFR took over with no prospect of that changing. Is that your idea of self sufficiency? I was going to say that DDFR couldn't run a sweety shop but in fairness that's actually all he can run. And before we get everyone telling me what a good businessman he is maybe you can explain why, when he tries anything other than making sweeties, it manages to run up debts of a Million (again no pun intended) with NO yes NO outlook of ever being able to pay it back..

Sustainability ...................my arse.......wake up and smell the coffee

You should just stick to choking on Kebabs if you can't understand a business plan. The fact is that Morton are potentially more viable than every non city club in Scotland.

The reason for our current deficit is that we're still stuck in div 2 doldrums-and I'm not going to start asking why-but don't give me this non self sustainable crap.
mortonjag 2006-09-03 21:36:55
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 3 2006, 09:07 PM) [snapback]175893[/snapback]

Let's be realistic. They are one of the top 3 teams in Div 1 if you look at their squad. If we give them a good game, that's enough for me.

I'm certainly not going to get carried away on a wave of enthusiasm, as I'm still worried that we'll fall into the old inconsistency trap.

Having said that, if we play as we did today, I'd say we'll not only give them a good game, but leave them licking their wounds.

Remember the Midden AWAY last season, and now they're in the SPL.

It was an absolute delight to see a 17 year old boy take a game by the scruff of the neck as wee McGowan did-well done to him.
mortonjag 2006-09-04 09:16:11
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 4 2006, 12:11 AM) [snapback]175934[/snapback]

I feel sorry for this lad, today like most games he gets hacked down so many times it is unbelievable, gets to the stage that its bejond a joke.

Today in the first half alone he was brought down mulitple times but not once did the Ref as usual step in and have a word.

Second half of the game Jim dissapears from the game and probably rightfully so, maybe black and blue from the first half and pissed off at no protection from Ref or Linesman

Arn't Refs and Linesmen there also to protect players?

Have you noticed it almost always happens when he does that quick turn infielfd with the right foot-it catches defenders who are more used to dealing with left footed players.

Think about it-a left footed guy, doing the same manoevre has already taken his body past the defender, whereas Jim flicks the ball with the outside of his right foot and then has to follow through.(across the intended tackle)

I honestly don't think Jim gets more deliberate malice than anybody else from defenders, but I entirely agree-the refs are there to do a job.

I see it time after time with those so called top grade SFL refs-they wait far too long before they book somebody, and then either start doing it 'for fun', or totally ignore the next similar incident.

Alloa started the second half with a couple of really mean midfield tackles, and there was very little reaction from the whistler. Another good reason to get out of this s***hole.
mortonjag 2006-09-04 09:32:45 Who knows? At the moment the move presumably suits us, Celtic, and the player, and a permanent move would need to do the same.

If he continues to improve as he's been doing, I guess they won't want to let him go, but if they were willing, I imagine the boy might (at 18) see a move to us for a season or two of 1st division (SPL 2) football as a better career option than languishing in the reserves.
mortonjag 2006-09-04 09:40:37 If the team are playing confidently and winning matches, NOBODY should be allowed to walk right back in IMO.
mortonjag 2006-09-04 09:45:06 I think Jamie Stevenson's presence has taken a hell of a responsibility off Chris. I always rated him, but last season he had too much expected of him too often IMO.
mortonjag 2006-09-04 14:08:37
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Sep 2 2006, 10:29 AM) [snapback]175518[/snapback]

Thanks Mortonjag, yer a star!

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mortonjag 2006-09-06 11:58:56
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 6 2006, 08:37 AM) [snapback]176786[/snapback]

He was mince last season, so am a numpty for noticing this?? So far he has been 100 times better, looking like the Chris of the season before that won the MOTY awards

I agree with you in general sean, but applying the same principle, that he didn't fulfil his potential, I can't think of one player who wasn't 'mince' last season.
mortonjag 2006-09-06 12:02:41
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 6 2006, 11:25 AM) [snapback]176843[/snapback]

That is a good catch for them, but the walking at any time thing leaves the whole situation very unstaible.

Depends on your 'take'. Craig's a clever guy-he's kept his options open, but he's also left the directors to judge him (and his players) on performance.

Rather than seeing that as instability, I see it POSITIVELY smile.gif -nobody will be able to sit on his laurels. I think he'll do well for them.
mortonjag 2006-09-06 12:04:37
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Sep 5 2006, 04:11 PM) [snapback]176577[/snapback]

Minutes silence at Scappa ................... I very much doubt it. How long will it be before someone mentions the fact that it was one of the Rae's who killed him.

Keep them coming- laugh.gif
mortonjag 2006-09-06 12:11:15
QUOTE(Benny Boy @ Sep 6 2006, 10:31 AM) [snapback]176826[/snapback]

The comments on here urging Dougie Rae to quit merely illustrate how thick the average Morton fan is.

Ok, so Dougie is a tad conceited. And two pages for his programme comments is over the top. Especially when he insists on putting every second word in "inverted commas".

But he's the first benefactor chairman Morton have had in their 132-year history. He's a fan and he's ambitious - dual qualities sorely lacking in the likes of recent incumbants Wilson and Scott.

Dougie must stay, simple as that, although he needs to sharpen the old PR skills.

Excellent post-my only concern which I've aired before is that if he can write that sort of stuff, how much does he meddle with team selection and tactics. McGraw hated his interference and hasn't been forgiven.

I've been giving McInally pelters, but maybe his hands are tied at times.

Anyway, the boys have got it right at the moment and let's hope it continues.
mortonjag 2006-09-06 19:36:22
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 6 2006, 05:08 PM) [snapback]176987[/snapback]

Taking our first pick team, are there players with other second division sides who would improve our lineup?

Goal - I reckon our goallie is as good as any in the division but not exceptional by past Morton standards - have a look at Roy Baines in the Rangers video.

Defence - maybe we could find a fullback - Nugent at Stirling or Ellis Cowdenbeath but I don't think they are any better than we have and our central two are the best in the division by a fair bit

Midfield - we have presently Stevenson, Miller, McLaughlin and McAllister. I think man for man these are the best in the division. Gomis at Cowdenbeath is highly rated but I thought he was completely nullified at Cappielow.

Forward - McGowan is just several classes above the second division. That boy is a future Scotland player. Lilley? Maybe guys like Patelainen or Clarke or Connelly might do as well but Del is going through a purple patch at the moment.

All up, if we had our pick I can only see one or two who might improve the squad and very few, if any, who would get a first team pick.

mortonjag 2006-09-06 19:44:26
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Sep 6 2006, 03:05 PM) [snapback]176911[/snapback]

watch raith challenge for the title now they have an experienced manager at the helm

I haven't even checked who they're playing this week but they're a good bet no matter what the bookies say IMO.
mortonjag 2006-09-06 19:56:06
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Sep 4 2006, 03:15 PM) [snapback]176137[/snapback]

Anyone heard from Mortonjag recently? rolleyes.gif

After that performance yesterday he's probably crying into his reverseable Partick Thistle scarf!! laugh.gif

Mortonjag was thrilled with Sunday's performance-full credit where due.

The 'jaggy' bit refers to a motor you venomous little creep. wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-09-07 09:03:29
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 6 2006, 04:53 PM) [snapback]176972[/snapback]

Indeed, we were so mince that we finished 13 points clear in second place and only missed out on the championship because of Milesons Millions.

I will concede that the team looks better this season and that is primarily down to McGowan and Stevenson. We have a cutting edge which was not there last year. Last year we were second because, by and large, we could stop teams scoring but we were only marginally better at scoring ourselves. This season we can still stop them scoring but we are infinitely more dangerous going forward.

I agree with that-the point I was trying to get over 'tongue in cheek' is that Millar WASN'T 'mince all of last season, nor was the rest of the team. As you say we lost automatic promotion because of the villagers, but let's not forget we BLEW that 2nd place.

The whole team was worse than mouldy mince in the first playoff. At the moment the boys heads are up, confidence is flowing and it's great. That's really all we needed last season and we'd now be in div 1. Long may it continue.
mortonjag 2006-09-07 09:05:14
QUOTE(The_Hooped_One @ Sep 7 2006, 08:16 AM) [snapback]177203[/snapback]

I might be wrong, but I think he used to play right-back for the Celtic youths and 19s, before eventually converting to centre midfield.

Will confirm tonight.

Millar was signed from Septic as a right wing back, and I think played his debut for us against Queens Park as an overlapping full back. I also re-call John Adam made his debut in that game and scored a peach of a drive.
mortonjag 2006-09-07 16:37:10
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Sep 7 2006, 02:41 PM) [snapback]177298[/snapback]

laugh.gif Away an' stop yer haverin'!! You were pure gutted. You've been proved to be nothing but a petty ill informed grumpy old man, now pick the dummy up and shove it in yer cake hole. rolleyes.gif

How long did it take you come up with "motor" story by the way??? Brilliant!! laugh.gif laugh.gif

Yer talking pish!! laugh.gif

What a sweet little thing you are-incidentally I've changed it for an MG TF 160-though I doubt if that'll mean anything to you-it's a lovely Ton blue colour, but I'm not divulging my private reg as you'd probably see it at Scapa and trash it mad.gif

Mind you any time you're longing for a ride darling, just send me a PM, and I'll send my dog to oblige smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-09-07 19:36:43
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 7 2006, 05:15 PM) [snapback]177331[/snapback]

Good move. That way it'll never be found amidst the dozens of other MG TF 160s you see outside Cappielow.

nacho-parlez vous Francais? Super Nanny est vraiement tres stupide et peut ecrire seulement avec le 'spell check'.

Le TF 160 est actuellement la voiture de M. D Rae, et apres le sabotage--- laugh.gif ou est Super Nanny? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-09-08 10:04:26 That can only be good news for young Gonet. We've only seen him play a couple of times for the 1st team, and he didn't have a chance to settle. My feeling was that he's a very good reflex type goalie, and will pull off some great saves, but he's nervous and lacks presence in the air. Cowdenbeath will no doubt be slinging loads of high balls in if they've done their homework, and in particular I see it as a real worry for Tuesday.

Anyway, sorry to hear about Davie, and wish him a speedy return.
mortonjag 2006-09-08 14:47:37
QUOTE(SherrifFatman @ Sep 8 2006, 11:04 AM) [snapback]177610[/snapback]

They will now!!!

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mortonjag 2006-09-08 14:56:29
QUOTE(simplyton @ Sep 8 2006, 01:28 PM) [snapback]177648[/snapback]

If any team had done their homework about McGurn they would be slinging high balls into the box against him also as I feel its his major weakness

As for Stefan he got slaughtered for his appearance as a sub at Ayr but bounced back well and seemed to have settled in and formed a decent understanding with the defence - I would have actually gave him more time in the team last season to ensure McGurn was 100% as there were few occasions when Davie still looked to be struggling.

Its a blow before a big 4 days for us but I think Gonet is up to the task (just wrap him in cotton wool between now and then)

McGurn is not weak in the air at all, but I know what you mean. The problem is that he still hasn't got an ideal understanding with the central defenders. Too often they still go for the same ball, or leave it to each other and get caught out.

If our back four play well in front of Stefan, I think he can settle-he's a great reflex stopper, but he ain't exactly six foot six!
mortonjag 2006-09-08 15:02:35
QUOTE(marxist_ton' @ Sep 6 2006, 08:16 PM) [snapback]177068[/snapback]

thanks for quoting that mortonjag, just incase i hadn't read it all ready tongue.gif

biggrin.gif -I'll put that down to this f*cking AOL software-I'm getting a new ISP next Tuesday thank God.

All I said was that a good manager could easily pick a team to beat us from the WHOLE of the other nine.
mortonjag 2006-09-08 15:11:44 Stick with Scottish Autotrader WDE-they're reliable and not too dear-what are you selling anyway?
mortonjag 2006-09-08 15:14:20
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 8 2006, 03:02 PM) [snapback]177704[/snapback]

Height: 6' 3"

Aye right-use your eyes Brian, not statistics from the official web site-or is it just that he always walks with a stoop! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-09-08 15:30:17 I really don't know what the problem is.

It's obvious some people like having multiple 'identities', presumably because their primary one is already known to many others.

I am, and will remain Mortonjag--I don't need to hide as none of you knows me anyway, and I enjoy the serious debate and the banter.

What does seem a bit puerile though, is one poster voicing conflicting opinions under different names to score points or wind people up.

If you've got something to say, just say it.
mortonjag 2006-09-10 11:42:45 Gretna (population < 5000) 0
Dundee(population 150000) 4

Big bullies I say laugh.gif
mortonjag 2006-09-10 12:10:43 MOM in today's Mail- Mr McLaren-well done Andy!
mortonjag 2006-09-10 12:26:43 It's a cup tie so anything can happen. I believe that if we just 'go for it. and play like we did in the 1st half yesterday, they'll end up chasing the game, and we might just hold on.

What worries me is they've proved to be a strong, experienced and free scoring lot, and Owen Coyle will have done his homework.

Stef Gonet impressed me yesterday with his quick reflexes, early reading of the game, and understanding with his defenders, but in the air he's a f*cking disaster, and that could be be our downfall.
mortonjag 2006-09-10 12:44:00
QUOTE(Inver_Ton @ Sep 10 2006, 12:31 PM) [snapback]178373[/snapback]

This lad has had plenty of critisism on the message board and at games, and the best way to answer to it is by performing on the park. I thought yesterday he had a really good game.

I don't know whether Mixu knew he wasn't a left back and was playing out of position or its just the way that they play, but diaganol balls kept coming over to him and he won every single one - bar the offside/onside decision that led to the goal.

His distribution seems to be improving aswell, which can only help his game.

I've not been Dean's biggest fan but i have always admired the way he talks the younger boys through reserve games & never criticises them.

He deserves his chance imo, and if he keeps up performances like yesterday, he'll make it hard for MacGregor or Walker to just walk into the left back position.

Well done Dean.


I posted a few weeks ago, suggesting he could be a regular in defence this season, and got the usual rubbishing. Funny how he's now leading yesterday's MOTM poll by a country mile, (and I actually voted for big Stu).

I agree with you, and wish some folk would get off his back. He's still rough around the edges, but his application, and 'no messing' approach are welcome IMO.

OK he was outpaced yesterday for that telling cross, but he was completely sold short by our midfield in the lead up.
mortonjag 2006-09-10 12:49:57
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Sep 10 2006, 12:45 PM) [snapback]178378[/snapback]

Yet again, the Sunday MAIL GETS IT WRONG!, Jim McAllister looks eff all like Stuart Greacen!

The article also states that Del squared the ball to Jimbo for his goal. From where I was sitting it seemed young McGowan's total sclaff ended up being the 'perfect dummy' and Jim just found himself with a 'gift' which he took well.
mortonjag 2006-09-10 13:00:08
QUOTE(marxist_ton' @ Sep 10 2006, 12:34 PM) [snapback]178375[/snapback]

I thought Gonet looked fine in the air yesterday, especially one curling cross that he comfortable grabbed with both arms.

I hope you prove me wrong-maybe when he settles in and gains confidence he'll get better in the air, but yesterday he nervously punched at two or three balls which he should have taken easily (shades of Craig Coyle who was much shorter). On one occasion in the second half he had timed his jump well, and actually LOWERED his arms to punch the ball clear instead of holding it, (and he was not under direct pressure).
mortonjag 2006-09-10 13:23:27 I haven't changed my opinion about some basic issues at Scapa, but the Ton have been up there before and done OK.

Who expected Hearts to get gubbed yesterday?

In terms of potential, we're actually better off than 'The Midden'-I get fed up with some saying otherwise, and even that we're no different from Gretna.

Our 'ON THE PARK' performance in the last few games has been excellent-roll on Div1/SPL 2, and hopefully we can keep building.
mortonjag 2006-09-10 13:40:36 Haven't much to add.

My only disappointment was that after being miles ahead of them in every department, we let them back in an made it hard for ourselves. We still haven't learned to bury other sides when we're up.
mortonjag 2006-09-10 13:56:05 Jim is a great guy-super fit-and never stops trying. Last season quite a few were predicting a Scotland under 21 spot in the near future.

What's gone wrong? In the first half yesterday when Millar, Stevenson, McGowan and Lilley were ripping Cowden to shreds Jim was almost anonymous.

OK he took his goal well but otherwise the second wasn't much different.

I think it's just another example on managerial tunnel vision. The boy's form's gone and he clearly needs a rest, or a chance in a different position.
mortonjag 2006-09-10 14:01:43
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Sep 10 2006, 01:53 PM) [snapback]178401[/snapback]

Noticed he received another yellow card yesterday!

Andy saves them up! rolleyes.gif He's never going to change but we expected too much too often IMO. At Dundee he won't need to be the main man all the time, and sounds like he's set for a good season.
mortonjag 2006-09-10 14:29:03
QUOTE(Deego @ Sep 10 2006, 02:14 PM) [snapback]178414[/snapback]

Am I right in saying their strike partnership is Milne and Scotland? If so, I think the defence will have a tough time and if we keep a clean sheet I'll be delighted.

I can see McLaughlin having a major role in the game aswell.

Yip, and they've also got Kevin James, who has to duck down to head goals ! mad.gif

A bit scary if you ask me. We've just got to hammer them from the KO. They're not any fitter than us-get them on the back foot and keep them there-it's our only chance.
mortonjag 2006-09-10 14:38:58
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 10 2006, 02:17 PM) [snapback]178416[/snapback]

Big Stu is a class act.

I said this all through last season as well. A rock at the back and a magnet to the ball.

Will be a Morton legend in years to come!!

Stu was my MOTM yesterday, but what's all this stuff about legends?

The boy's in his mid twenties already, and has never played above division 2. On form AT THAT LEVEL he's a tough, solid and dependable centre back, and able to nod in the odd goal from set pieces.

Class acts don't play in SFL div 2 piehutt
mortonjag 2006-09-10 14:45:13
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 10 2006, 02:27 PM) [snapback]178422[/snapback]

great post puggsy, totaly agree 100%.

I agree with all last three posters-I rate Jim highly-it's just that I feel he's in a rut right now. His tenacity in tackling, tracking back etc., is not in dispute, but yesterday, as in several games this season, he was lost in attack. Our midfield was more than strong enough, and we could desperately have done with somebody to capitalise up the left wing.
mortonjag 2006-09-10 14:48:52
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 10 2006, 02:25 PM) [snapback]178421[/snapback]

I like nothing better than dishing out a gubbing to St Mirren but, apart from when we are playing them, I wish them well. If they do well in the SPL good luck to them and I, for one hope that in the not too distant future we can see an all SPL Renfrewshire derby.

I have no doubt that we have the potential to survive in the SPL, albeit maybe in the lower half. We have more potential than the likes of Caley Thistle, Falkirk and we are on a par with Motherwell, Dunfermline, Kilmarnock, St Mirren at least in terms of support.

Exactly-Dougie Rae's finances are limited-if somebody like Mileson had invested in us three seasons ago we could be doing OK in the SPL now.
mortonjag 2006-09-10 14:58:32
QUOTE(El gofer @ Sep 10 2006, 02:48 PM) [snapback]178427[/snapback]

Mortonjag: do you EVER say ANYTHING positive??

I have read your input on 3 threads and you have cast doubts on the ability of McAlistair, Greacen and Gonet.

You dont per chance stand in front of me in the cowshed do you??

I can say POSITIVELY 'no', and thank f*ck.

Who'd want to stand in front of an eejit.

I've just started a thread saying I believe we can thrive in the SPL.

Instead of trying to score points, why don't you say WHY you disagree with my posts.

This is a forum for open discussion, but it seems I'm FORBIDDEN by EL gofer from saying anything he doesn't regard as positive.

Another one who speaks for all by the sound of it.
mortonjag 2006-09-10 15:41:43
QUOTE(El gofer @ Sep 10 2006, 03:16 PM) [snapback]178436[/snapback]

Why you getting abusive?

I said in my post that you seemed to question the ability of 3 players, Jim, Greacen and Gonet, I thought it wouldv been obvious WHY I disagree with your posts.

And for the record, I speak for myself.

When did I forbid you from speaking your mind? I was merely disagreeing with you...........and then you get abusive because this upset you.

Gonet has played about 4 games for us. I seem to remember McGurn coming in a couple of seasons back and being a bit unsure/nervous. Gonet has a good reputation as a goalkeeper, going back a few years.

McAlistair as i said in another post is playing a bit of a different role this season allied to the fact that he has been playing against the same teams who are working out how to defend against him, ie not giving him space in behind, keeping him on his left foot.

Greacen has, in my opinion been a consistent force for us. While the term legend is over used , I agree, he is becoming somewhat of a stalwart. The age thing, is Ritchie not seen as a "legend"? He not leave in his mid/late 20s? Not very old!!

Just thinking that we have started the season rather well, but I am waiting for the time when we slip and you are back demanding McInally's head on a plate.

I called you an 'eejit' because having just started a very POSITIVE post about our chances in the SPL, you idiotically chose to ignore it in your attempt to make your point. That was factual, not abusive.

You have compounded your idiocy by doing EXACTLY what you criticised me for. I praised Gonet, Greacen, and McAlister unreservedly for their GOOD points, but I'm entitled to ask questions of their deficiencies.

I'm delighted that you speak for yourself-that's at least two of us, and incidentally, when did I ever say I've changed my mind about McInally?
mortonjag 2006-09-10 17:40:46
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 10 2006, 04:14 PM) [snapback]178451[/snapback]

Firstly in this cup they rested 7 regular starters in the first round and 4 regular starters in the 2nd round, they want to win the 1st more than anything. Also we have nothing to lose in this tie they are the favs .

What's your point Bryan-are you trying to suggest they'll field a weak team against us and still expect to win. I hope they do, but doubt it. (Field a weak team that is)
mortonjag 2006-09-10 17:49:04
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 10 2006, 05:39 PM) [snapback]178475[/snapback]

He's 24. Is already Captain of a decent side, leads the team fantastically.

Has played 131 times for Morton already.

Not many centre-backs will have played that many times as generally centre-backs find it hard to get established at a young age.

IMO Stewart would be fine uo a level or two, esepcially if he stays at Morton and does it gradually learning with each season. Like I've said 24 is pretty young for an established centre back and club captain.

I guess its all hypothetical and I know Legend is a word often over-used but in Stewarts case I feel there is a great chance of him fulfilling this.

Fair enough-I understand your point-IF we were to remain a div 2 club for another five or six seasons I'm sure what you say might come true, but surely we're more ambitious. I think, playing to his best, Stu could just cope with div 1.

I totally disagree with your comments about leading the side fantastically. If you mean he leads by example-yes-but that's all.

We have not had a decent motivating leader since McInnes, and that's part of what was wrong in the last couple of seasons IMO.
mortonjag 2006-09-10 17:57:29
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Sep 8 2006, 03:15 PM) [snapback]177711[/snapback]

Peugeot 206 1.4LX 2003 , 31K miles , silver

That's a good wee motor by the sound of it. If you don't overprice yourself you'll definitely get a response with Auto Trader. Be sure to put in nice foties etc
mortonjag 2006-09-10 18:05:19 I could hardly believe it-Alexander STILL blamed his players, but at least this time he didn't accuse them of disobeying his instructions.

Well done Rowan, maybe by the end of the season you'll be even more humble if you end up playing second fiddle for the first time since you were bankrolled.

Bet Davie Wylie's having a good old chuckle. smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-09-10 18:08:01
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 10 2006, 06:04 PM) [snapback]178482[/snapback]

No, I think as and when we move up to the div 1, and hopefully challenge for the SPL over the next 4/5 years Greacan will be part of that.

We can always hope-it's not impossible-but I honestly believe that unlike Harding, Stu's playing as well as he ever will.
mortonjag 2006-09-10 18:13:15
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 10 2006, 06:07 PM) [snapback]178485[/snapback]

Yes

Well I really hope you're right. I know there's not much left in this diddy cup except the chance of glory, but we could do fine with that.

It's a bit unfair though-if they lose they've got an excuse, and if they win-we'll look daft.
mortonjag 2006-09-25 20:43:57 Is any of you guys a genuine Ton supporter? I've been watching them for 46 years, and just at the very time when we're on the way up AGAIN !! you lot seem to think only of the bloody Brechins and Forfars of this world. Get real-the sooner we get out of this crap the better. Talking of crap-the toilet at the entrance to Station Park has one smelly lavvy seat with NO bum paper!-Sorry ladies!
mortonjag 2006-09-25 21:01:11 Would you believe it, and after everything the latter day Jesus has done for the area-they're more interested in having a nice quiet village life !!! OOPS-did somebody make a wee mistake? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2006-09-25 21:06:07 In the few starts he got for us he was hopeless, but that doesn't mean he's a bad player-form comes and goes, especially for goalscorers.
mortonjag 2006-09-25 21:22:44
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 25 2006, 09:13 PM) [snapback]184799[/snapback]

He didn't mention it to reaffirm jist how badly we've spent 100k , since we were questioning Plymouth Argyles interest in James McPake for a similar fee .

That's twice you've had a go at big Sanny tonight-were you at the game on Saturday-most of the supporters seemed pretty happy with his effort and contribution?

He's working harder, heading much better, and holds the ball up better than Del (who incidentally was my MOTM), and he CAN score goals-don't argue-check the stats.

Whether or not he was worth all that dough is one thing, but get off his f*cking back (if you can reach).
mortonjag 2006-09-26 07:44:34 I've been desperate to leave AOL, and finally got my MAC code four weeks ago. I did a lot of research, and finally decided to go with good old BT as they're British, and I thought I could trust them. DO NOT BELIEVE IT.

They've f***ed me up well and truly-entered in the wrong code, said they'd sorted it, which they hadn't and after numerous calls to their INDIAN customer services (one of those guys actually asked me in broken English if 'I had had my lunch yet!!!), they left it too late and the migration authorisation period had expired.

Long and short of it-I hate to admit it-but I'm back to AOL with free wireless router for less than 15 quid a month.

Be warned mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-09-26 08:00:52 My God-I've just read this thread, and I'm SHOCKED-somebody brought a FLAG to Scapa in nineteen canteen huh.gif

Didn't see a single Union Jack at the piggery last Saturday mind you! Things are getting better !! dry.gif
mortonjag 2006-09-26 08:08:58
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 25 2006, 11:51 PM) [snapback]184846[/snapback]

I was more confident when the draw was made than I am now. In the last couple of weeks Clyde seem to have come onto a game and have had a couple of decent results. They've had four wins on the bounce (ignoring the abandoned game at Hamilton)

3-0 Montrose
1-0 Ayr
3-0 Ross County
2-0 Queen of the South at Palmerston

Our defence will have to be top drawer and if they can cope, I reckon we have the firepower up front to score.

Does form matter in this cup? St Johnstone had just knocked in a barrowload in their game before we played them. It'll be entirely down to our form on the night. If we're up for it, we'll win.
mortonjag 2006-09-26 08:37:57
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Sep 26 2006, 08:15 AM) [snapback]184871[/snapback]

If you had been to Scapa in the mid 90's you'd have seen a certain Morton fan with one, not me may I add.

The scandal just gets worse ohmy.gif

It actually gets that bad that away back in May 2003 there was about 20 flags from various countries flaunted around the stadium with ‘Morton’s Blessing’

Shockeroonneeeeeee

Yip-ban ALL flags I say-next thing they'll be hanging them on poles and stuff-work of the devil! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-09-26 08:52:19
QUOTE(Rossmc40 @ Sep 26 2006, 08:14 AM) [snapback]184870[/snapback]

Not usually one to stick up for companies but I've had broadband from BT for 3 years and never had the slightest bit of hassle. No probs connecting or being disconnected unexpectedly and the service has never been down.

Started on 512k, moved to 1Mb then 2. A few month back changed to the 8Mb service with wireless router for £10 it was all set up on time as promised and worked a treat.

On the other hand I had AOL dial up for a few months when I first moved in to my house (as broadband wasn't available) and thought they were terrible. Couldn't connect 5 times out of 10, random disconnects and the worst user interface I've ever seen.

My dad also has broadband from NTL and has had loads of hassle. Best one has to be when it just stopped working one day. He eventually gets through to their customer services and gets told, oh yeah we changed the service so your modem doesn't work anymore you need a new one!

Guess it's just your luck sometimes

I agree about the luck thing. Two of my brothers are already with BT broadband and have had no complaints.

The point I'm making though, is that I'm DISGUSTED that I chose them not because they were the cheapest, or quickest, or best for free surfing time-JUST BECAUSE I believed I'd get service from people who could speak English.

I don't give a flying f*ck if an Indian guy fixes my motor-this is not racial-but FFS CUSTOMER SERVICES should be manned by people who can understand the customer base, and make themselves understood.
mortonjag 2006-09-26 08:55:14
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Sep 26 2006, 08:52 AM) [snapback]184876[/snapback]

What have Polish people got to do with this laugh.gif

So it's you that's the racist then, Tokyo Boy why didn't you just tell us all that in the 1st place laugh.gif laugh.gif

POLISH people are just BUFFERS if you ask me! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-09-26 09:18:24
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 26 2006, 09:09 AM) [snapback]184878[/snapback]

And what are the toilet requirements for the SPL2, that we should be supporting it for this reason? rolleyes.gif

Nacho, I can have a nice civilised jobby in my local MacDonalds for less than I paid for that so called bridie on Saturday-facts are facts, and div 2 SUCKS.
mortonjag 2006-09-26 09:27:30
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Sep 26 2006, 09:15 AM) [snapback]184879[/snapback]

And then you've got them FRENCH POLISH ones as well laugh.gif

Aye, they've got a very thin veneer on them mad.gif

Do they still make KIWI or has NZ tightened up on immigration? smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-09-26 09:33:47 Where have all the Mileson sycophants gone-all you so called Ton fans who praised him while he sneaked into Scapa to support Peterhead. smile.gif

Latest is they're talking about ground sharing-IMAGINE THAT-who would have guessed, but then Mr Pony Tail's not devious-is he? dry.gif
mortonjag 2006-09-26 10:03:55
QUOTE(crgadams @ Sep 26 2006, 09:38 AM) [snapback]184887[/snapback]

I think everybody grows out of things, for example. At around this time, Russell Crowe was a skinhead into "white power" etc. Now he is a fine upstanding gentleman who doesn't care what colour somebody is before he belts them.

Correct, and Paul McGowan is taking the s*** out of defences, instead of having it cleaned off his nappies. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-09-26 12:25:15
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Sep 26 2006, 10:28 AM) [snapback]184904[/snapback]

blink.gif let it go. No one else gives a fcuk

Another who speaks for all-crawl back under your stone. smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-09-26 12:29:38
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 26 2006, 10:04 AM) [snapback]184892[/snapback]

Of course Div 2 sucks. And I'd love to see Morton out of it.

But if it's at the expense of better *football teams* than Morton, count me out.

Provisions for stadia seating should relate only to safety legislation and for away fans, IMO. If clubs want to have tiny seating areas for their home support, let them, it's their own income diminished as a result. Requiring 3,000 seats for a league that doesn't average anywhere near that is just bare-faced protectionism.

Remember: Brechin City and Stranraer have been *better teams than Morton on the pitch* in the last few seasons. Why should we jump the queue?

I'm all for a more attractive package to draw sponsorship to the "bigger" and better SFL clubs, and I'd naturally love to see Morton as a part of it, but doing so via the sneaky way of requiring ludicrous stadia is not something I want to see Morton party to.

I said as much in my email to the Trust. I look forward to hearing how Sunday went.

Edit: For what it's worth, I agree that the toilet arrangements at some grounds are completely unacceptable - Gretna for one. I don't know if this is an SPL2 requirement to get these fixed; since it doesn't serve the interests of the all-seater club, I doubt it.

I'm quite frankly not interested in anybody else except the Ton-there's no point in altruism in professional football. Last year we were f*cked by 'silly rules' and if we can now gain by them, bring it on.
mortonjag 2006-09-28 09:34:49 I agree with much of what has been said by the last few posters, but believe it's too easy to be sidetracked by 'ifs' and 'buts.

The fact is that we have been languishing in Div 2-it is NOT the way ahead for a club like Morton, and as far as I am concerned, anything that, even in principle at this stage, catalyses progress to SPL 1 should be grasped. I DON'T want to be in SPL 2-that's my whole point-WE ARE MORTON SUPER MORTON- and we can live there just as easily as, say, KIllie or Motherwell.

There's no money in the lower divisions, and the begging bowl will always be out in the name of preserving Scottish Football-folks-get real !
mortonjag 2006-09-28 09:51:25 I'm talking s***e, I'm a weapon. I've got a chip on my shoulder-no probs with that guys, keep them coming rolleyes.gif So Pony Tail wants unsubsidised survival on the basis of huge crowds flocking to Raydale from Aberdeen, Dundee, Inverness etc. Aye right-he'll make a few bob from the bigots and that's about it. His only long term hope for a viable proposition is 'Gretna United' and where they'd play is anybody's guess. Grab your fees while you can Alibi-I'd do the same, but the cheques will look just as nice without the rose tinted specs.
mortonjag 2006-09-28 21:11:24
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 28 2006, 01:45 PM) [snapback]185821[/snapback]

No rose tinted specs, Mortonjag. No chip on my shoulder either. I think basically you don't have a clue what's going on at Gretna so you just make it up. You want them to fail because you've decided you don't like them. Fair enough, but that's the sort of attitude that pervades Scotland and is largely responsible for our failure so far to achieve independence. How's that for a link.

Arkleston, what a contrived attempt at an insult.... smile.gif

If you think Gretna with its surrounding area is capable of a self financing SPL football club Alibi-you've lost your marbles.

The only thing independence from Mileson means for IT is failure.

I've said that from day one-NOT just since the Pony Tailed one bought promotion at our expense. There's no chip on my shoulder-I just f*cking hate him for being such a clot. OK, compared to Romanov he's a saint (sorrry) but the latter's at least put his money into football and not a seven day wonder.

You can quote me 'facts and statistics' as much as you like Alibi. The truth is that just because you want it to work doesn't mean it will. Without substantial ongoing subsidy from somewhere Gretna are f*cked, and it can't come too quickly for me! cool.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-01 09:51:05
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 29 2006, 09:35 AM) [snapback]186322[/snapback]

Gretna have as much right to buy their way to success as any other team -like the OF for example. Would be nice if Morton could do the same, although success on a tight budget is bound to be more satisfying.

Why does it need to be sustainable in terms of home crowds? Few teams survive on gate receipts. And I can't see Gretna getting 1000 for an SPL game when they get more than that at the moment.

As I say, some people just hate to see others succeeding.

I agree with edd-what makes you think they'll flock to Gretna Alibi-it's only for weddings and (eventually) GFC's funeral.

By the way, Airdrie is a team who MIGHT with a Mileson make something of a succcess in Scottish Football-just mentioned them en passant! smile.gif -Oh and what's this on the other thread about Gretna swinging the axe?

The trouble is Alibi, that once you've courted the press and milked publicity like Pony Tail has, you can't just go and hide.

Reality is hitting home sooner than he expected-when will he roll out the grand plan, or as others are suggesting HAS the train hit the buffers?
mortonjag 2006-10-01 10:07:55
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 1 2006, 09:46 AM) [snapback]187635[/snapback]

They're top of Division 1, and they will win it.

They are top on a slim goal difference-four other teams have better defensive records. There is VERY little to separate the top five at the moment in a highly competitive division.

I said from before the season began they'd win it-though it might mean spending even more money. Now it looks as though Mileson's discovered the term 'good housekeeping' or maybe thinks enough's enough.

What I think (for what it's worth) is that Alexander is one of the most overrated mouths in Scottish football, and Pony Tail would do well to get shot of him.
mortonjag 2006-10-01 11:31:41
QUOTE(suda @ Oct 1 2006, 11:25 AM) [snapback]187684[/snapback]

Harko_Rajamaki you really want to think about what your saying before you post sh!ite like that. Ryan and Big Greacen have formed the basis of a defence that has been the most solid in the league for the last two years, quite simply they are the best in this Division by a mile. Harding has pace, he's strong, reads the game well, is good in the air and it's also him that marshalls the defence. I'll concede that his passing is sometimes not his best quality but he does also hit a decent long ball too just percentage wise they don't all hit the target but he's not a play maker he's a centre half. The main purpose of centre halfs is to snuff out the threat from opposition forwards, we've only conceded 3 goals so you can't argue with that but feel free to keep expressing your opinion and making a total fool out of yourself laugh.gif

Good post-Harding was excellent against St Johnstone who had just rattled in 5 in their previous game. The only problem is that he's still young and inexperienced-he tends either to play a stormer, or have an off-day, and he hasn't been so good in the last two matches.
mortonjag 2006-10-01 11:38:53 I was one of his biggest critics last season-mainly because he is a disaster going forward, but I've repeatedly suggested he'd make a good right back (which we don't have).
mortonjag 2006-10-02 16:00:34
QUOTE(e_f @ Sep 29 2006, 07:06 PM) [snapback]186817[/snapback]

Two of the given reasons behind the proposal are, I believe, the lack of TV coverage and sponsorship. By dressing up the product in a new wrapper Flynn thinks that this will solve this problem. Wrong.

We had a good insight into one of the causes of the recent lack of interest in the First Division at the Clyde game and, to a lesser extent, in the St. Johnstone game. The quality of the fare is crap. Ask yourself: out of the two squads of players in both of those teams, how many would gain their place in the current Morton starting 11? Very few, I’m sure. The saddest part of the defeat on Wednesday night was a Morton manager feeling the need to say we should be more “streetwise” if we want to progress in the First Division.

The bully, the hard man and the cheat rule the roost. The game needs to be sorted and referees should punish the cheats who know which fouls will be not be given in the box but not outside, how to use shirt pulling to their advantage, block supporting players runs and the many other “streetwise” moves these players with limited ability use. Managers, like Joe Millar, who make excuses for bookings and bad tackles instead of disapproving of them, should be brought to book. It will, of course, be impossible to stamp this out completely but we have to do something and not just ignore it otherwise our beautiful game of football will degenerate into a brawl if it’s allowed to continue.

Secondly, the television presentation of the SFL was awful.
There is good football to be seen in the Scottish Leagues as the BBC presenters who covered the Challenge Cup will testify. If nobody wants to pay for covering our games then don’t charge them – other benefits such as sponsorship will follow. The BBC and SKY’s football coverage is far more professionally presented than the junk that was served up by STV. Give these companies a free reign for a season or two, to cover the SFL as they wish. Let them pick the attractive looking games and the teams playing streetwise football will have to clean up their act or miss out. The benefits outwith TV money the English Conference Leagues has gained with a good TV coverage has been good yet the quality of football there is no better than ours.

Calling the league a new name, worrying about stadium sizes and potential support is fine but only cosmetic. Fix the product first and make it worth watching then people will come back to watch the game.

You've made some interesting, if contentious points-I entirely agree about Wednesday. I thought Clyde's style of football was clinical to the point of
cynicism, NOT nice to watch-but unless we change the basic rules about goals winning matches, I don't see what can be done about it. Incidentally, I can't remember ever seeing Clyde play attractive football since their sides of the sixties-is that just me?
mortonjag 2006-10-02 16:22:06
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Oct 2 2006, 04:14 PM) [snapback]188199[/snapback]

embarrasing rolleyes.gif

Hi darling-how's the application for the University of Life going? smile.gif

Just thought I'd say 'hello' first, and then ask why it is that the poster gets ripped to shreds by the majority-all they can say-like parrots-is 'we're top of the league' in McInally's defence.

We are playing better as a team, Jim may possibly be starting to learn his trade-I don't know- but Gretna are top of Div 1 and IMO they don't even have a manager.
Incidentally, fourteen posters have voted for that taxi!
mortonjag 2006-10-02 17:08:19 Nuf sed
mortonjag 2006-10-02 17:51:33 has Stefan Gonet as MOTM on Saturday! He had ONE excellent save, and apart from that had very little to do as far as I could see.
mortonjag 2006-10-02 18:06:52 Big Sanny always looks clumsy, and always will. The fact that some myopics on this board can see no further is their problem, not his.

I thought he was a 'hoot' in the last couple of minutes on Saturday, totally taking the piss out of Brechin at the corner flag, but no doubt that wouldn't please some of you either.

If you had only seen Andy Ritchie OFF the ball, you'd have thought he'd have been better employed as a lollipop man!
mortonjag 2006-10-02 18:47:27
QUOTE(Cappielow_Girl_2oo6 @ Oct 2 2006, 05:15 PM) [snapback]188242[/snapback]

"enough said" dont you mean laugh.gif

"Enough said", --- IS what I meant, aye it WAS a wee bit posh in them days! rolleyes.gif

Oh, and didn't you mean-"don't you mean"?
mortonjag 2006-10-02 19:02:43 Compared to his first game Gonet got plenty of encouragement on Saturday IMO. The defence-in particular, Alex Walker pushed the ball back to him on several occasions when they could just have lumped it out. That was not happening a few weeks ago.

For my money, the boy is still raw and lacks physical presence. He had a good save-(I don't know how good as he was right in line, and only had to tip it over) on Saturday, but otherwise had little to do.

The truth is that in the few games he's played he's already had two, if not three howlers, and it's a mercy in some ways that two of those games were in the diddy cup.
mortonjag 2006-10-02 20:16:46
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 2 2006, 07:00 PM) [snapback]188298[/snapback]

Aye, and 96 (87 of whom are certain) want him to stay. What's your point, caller? rolleyes.gif

Guess Willow Man's already answered your question in principle, but the SPECIFIC point is that a full time squad leading a rather poor second division proves very little to me, AND to a statistically significant number of posters.

If you race a Mini in a Ferrari, you'll have to be a f*cking awful driver to lose.

I don't want to go over old ground, but even again in this thread, others have pointed out that every time the chips have been down we've failed. You can't JUST blame the manager for that, but he is paid to do a job, and if he's not seen to do it he's entitled to criticism.
mortonjag 2006-10-02 20:22:24
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Oct 2 2006, 07:00 PM) [snapback]188299[/snapback]

Is that when he was scratching his............

Indeed-he WAS guilty of that little indiscretion from time to time, and occasionally when I thought he was just about to nod off, somebody would tell him to get his arse in gear and he'd turn on the magic for a couple of minutes-beat four in the box and knock the ball in-so that he could go back to dreamland. What a player, but what a waste.
mortonjag 2006-10-03 07:38:44
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Oct 2 2006, 11:48 PM) [snapback]188438[/snapback]

Morton lost yet again to a couple of goalkeeping blunders. Basically it was for the most part a pretty even game with neither team really dominating the whole game.

They scored first from a free kick on the left which was nicely dropped on their man's head to plant a good header well past the keeper. They went two up scoring direct from a corner. I though that that should have been the keepers ball.

We pulled one back just before half time Templeman was put through on the right of the Sinclair street penalty box. The keeper parried his shot well but straight onto McLean's head. He put it back across the goal and Templeman buried it. 2-1 at half time.

Second half we were pressing for an equaliser and a bit unlucky when they broke up the park. A specualtive ball was lobbed intoi the penalty box from their left which the keeper should have come for - a keepers ball all the way. He hesitated and ended up in no mans land gifting them an easy chance.

Ten minutes to go there is a scramble in their penalty area with Templeman, Finlayson and Keenan all having shots blocked. The ball broke to Graham on the edge of the box and he buried it from 18 yards. 3-2

We went four up and got caught again on the break. Their man shot from the edge of the box and it was deflected away from Baxter by one of our guys. End of match

One the night I though quite a lot of the boys looked decent. Templeman had a good game and was unlucky not to score more. The two fullbacks and Gilbride all looked decent and the trialist settled into a game. Russell was good in midfield. Finlaysin tried hared and came onto a better game towards the end but struggled with his passing all night.

Thanks for the report-I was planning to go but torrential rain up here persuaded me the match might be off.
mortonjag 2006-10-03 07:48:39
QUOTE(craigeton @ Oct 2 2006, 10:23 PM) [snapback]188388[/snapback]

Back to the old saying of "you can only beat what is put in front of you"
when we get to the first division, or if we fail then by all means call for the managers head. But to have this embarassment on a supporters site is shameful.

I can't understand why, when one poster uses an emotive word like 'disgrace', or 'embarrassing', it's seen as a platform to jump on.

This is an OPEN forum-anyone can join, not just Ton fans, and ANYTHING to do with us should be up for DEBATE-that's all.

What IS an embarrassment to me is that some fans see themselves as amateur censors, and declare that the views of others are invalid-remember Hitler et al. sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-05 09:09:49 Over the years there's been far less hint of corruption in F1 than in football, and the recent Italian 'job' leaves motor racing in the shade.

I'm a great admirer of Alonso-he fully committed himself to Renault from an early age, but now wants to move on.

He must be bitterly disappointed at the tyres 'bungle' which cost him the Chinese GP, but no way would Renault deliberately 'shoot themselves in the foot', IMO.
mortonjag 2006-10-05 09:19:24 Sheridan's been citing an M15 undercover plot to discredit him-the poor b*stard's desperate to hang on to that £200,000 he got on false pretences-but c'mon---- Tommy-who?
mortonjag 2006-10-05 09:27:37 Maybe too late for your group meeting, but one of the really hot cakes at the moment is recruitment.

Changes in European legislation and tax loopholes re foreign workers have created a (temporary at least) opportunity for the adventurous.

I personally know someone who started up two years ago with less than 10k and currently runs two companies (one an 'umbrella') with a combined turnover exceeding 5 million p.a.
mortonjag 2006-10-05 09:39:45
QUOTE(mickaspic @ Oct 4 2006, 01:28 PM) [snapback]188949[/snapback]

I agree that big Marv could be a great signing for them. He is strong and commanding. He may not offer much going forward but he will help prevent them conceding goals. He will also bring a big personality to their team.

Even if Wilike and Andrews only last a month, it seems like some smart moves by Raith to me.

Mick

Mick, I hope you don't end up eating your words-big Marv WILL be a real threat to defences in div 2 from set pieces-mark my words.

Incidentally, his church is in Kirkcaldy, so whether God asked him to sign for Raith, or whether it was just a matter of convenience is anybody's guess! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-05 10:29:30
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Oct 5 2006, 10:12 AM) [snapback]189298[/snapback]

If the legend Danny McGrain is not dead then that is one sick poster.

I'm sure Bawheid will be devastated-Super Nanny I advised you months ago not to stop your medication-oh well! sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-05 10:49:45
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 4 2006, 06:54 PM) [snapback]189089[/snapback]

'le_chien_manquee' spot on aboot last season ..... has all these guys who are crowing about MacInally have they only started going to games ??
Can't believe that in his 3 rd season that he seems above reproatch . I have to admit away from home we are doing brilliant , is that because the onus is on teams to come at us . The only thing at home is he has to realise that it's our gate we have to get skulls in the door . He knows that teams will sit in , he has to be more attack minded and get a few . We should be wiping the floor with most teams .
Ayr United , hiv came up to us and play the same way ( last season and this one ) play the same stuffy , aggresive Junior fitba' and we've not been able to cope.
Stirling , feck they wur timewasting from the first whistle then when Del scored , it was like the end of the world .
Brechin , came with the Ayr formula , then had to change tactics 2nd half aftur we scored before the half.
Don't think theres anybody to touch us this season .
There is more to it than just the 1st team . The youth set up , for someone who was in charge of it At Ceptic he ain't exactly all over it like a rash .
Hes been to a couple of last seasons u-17s games at Dundee and at St Johnston he also watched training once that was after a bit of a barny on the Sunday at an u-17s game .
We don't have an under 19s which to me would have given boys like Black and Gilbride more experience.
Spoonsy and Chris Miller and Jas Walker took the u-17 and under 15 last season. They didn't even have a medical bag .
So for all you supporters who think MacInally is better than sliced bread and slagging off those who question more than a good start to a bad league , we have every right to have a go .

Agree totally next season is where he should be judged on the 1st team but there is alot more he should be getting right and isin't.

'WE SHOULD BE WIPING THE FLOOR WITH MOST TEAMS'

EXACTLY-and we are not. My wee darling (Super Nanny) says I didn't comment on the Cowdenbeath game. I will now. We played superb football in the first half and made our nearest rivals look like schoolboys-THEN nearly blew it again. Even against St Johnstone, where we were brilliant for much of the time, we lacked a killer instinct, and nearly let them back in.

I'm constantly accused of being negative, but what's wrong with constructive criticism. In my opinion an experienced manager could have been hired for the same wages as Jim, and would have achieved far more. We are obviously going to win this time, but how much of that is really down to McInally is up for legitimate debate.
mortonjag 2006-10-05 15:56:03
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Oct 5 2006, 12:05 PM) [snapback]189317[/snapback]

Nothing wrong with constructive criticism MortonJag, if fact I am all for constructive criticism. It is just that too often I fail to find the constructive part of your criticism. It may simply be the way in which you stress your negative and positive statements.

Take this statement.
This to me is negative and not constructive. If you had said.It's bascially the same words, but clearly not the same message.

We could then add. rather than

On your call for legitimate debate I agree. I also refer you to what I said earlier in this thread, I think overall Jim has done an OK job and we are now beginning to see the results of the work that has been done.

cool.gif ScotinBelgie

Fair enough-though I can't see why suggesting we could use a more experienced manager is anything but constructive.
mortonjag 2006-10-05 16:01:41
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Oct 5 2006, 11:52 AM) [snapback]189314[/snapback]

Who are these experienced managers waiting around to take the job at Morton? There's a distinct shortage of suggestions of people who would be a far better choice than McInally.

If I name names SH I'll just get 'rubbished'. Near the end of last season I dared to mention baldy Campbell, and our good Bryan found that hilariuos.

There are, however, guys like Moore, Maitland and Stewart-several more, at our level, who in my opinion often get far more from their squads than would be expected. Jim came here after a career coaching wee boys. I've NEVER said he won't eventually become a good manager, but so far he's shown a helluva lot of naievity in my opinion.
mortonjag 2006-10-05 16:07:36
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Oct 5 2006, 01:57 PM) [snapback]189343[/snapback]

its the naughty step for you mortonjag!

Sounds like it-she WAS better on the pills though-but always thinks she knows best-sad really! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-05 18:56:33
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Oct 5 2006, 04:51 PM) [snapback]189391[/snapback]

Why would Bryan laugh at that? After all, Dick led Thistle to a spectacular promotion last season and has all but got the First Division wrapped up this season. Good call. The man's a genius. If only Thistle would let him go.

Seems to be stating the obvious but just in case you, Bryan, and Nacho haven't noticed, Campbell DID get Thistle ino div 1 after he outsmarted Stewart, who outsmarted-WHOM?

Why do some people fly in the face of reality! mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-05 20:19:40
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Oct 5 2006, 07:51 PM) [snapback]189444[/snapback]

Last year, Graham Roberts 'outsmarted' Gordon Strachan and Clyde put Celtic out of the Scottish Cup. Strachan, in turn, outsmarted every other SPL Manager to lift the SPL Championship. So what? Is Graham Roberts a better Manager than Gordon Strachan?

A typical 'If your Granny had baws she'd be your Uncle' argument. mad.gif

What you mean is that Clyde beat Celtic because Roberts successfully got them up for that game.

Truth is itchybaws that Stewart beat McInally hands down in the 'play offs', and when it came to the 'biggie' Campbell got his lot to pull out the stops to beat Peterhead, leaving us-the second favourites by a country mile- languishing for another season in the s***e of division 2.

I know we're racking up the points this season-I'm delighted with that-but there's no Gretna to distract us. To be honest I've often wondered if it would really matter whether we had a manager or not, given the talent at our disposal. When those boys are up for it they'll win anyway. It's a manager's job to get more out of them when they're not on fire, and that's where McInally has proved wanting.

Whether you like it or not, that is the quality some of those other guys have-getting something out of very little. Last season McInally got nothing out of a plethora of talents. Only time will tell if things have improved-not rose tinted perception after nine games.
mortonjag 2006-10-05 20:35:46
QUOTE(Cet homme charmant @ Oct 5 2006, 07:52 PM) [snapback]189445[/snapback]

I know you probably don't give a f***, but did you know that asylum seekers aren't allowed to work while their claim for asylum is being processed. Therefore they have no option but to 'sponge off the state' as you put it.

Still, let's not let a few facts get in the way of a good old fashioned bit of ignorance and racism, eh. rolleyes.gif

Seems to me they've the option of not asylum seeking here, and I wish they'd do just that instead of stealing my hard earned cash to survive. I've nothing against immigrants contributing to our society, but asylum seeking's made us a European joke.

Getting back to the black boy-that is exactly what he is and how he will expect to be described.

I've a Guyanese friend, whom I've known since 1966. He's dark brown, and doesn't care if folk call him black, or brown for that matter. He was brought up as a Christian, mind you, and HATES being called a 'Paki'!
mortonjag 2006-10-06 08:56:21
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 6 2006, 08:46 AM) [snapback]189598[/snapback]

Without that flukey last minute goal they would still be in this league and Campbell would be jobless. The flukey last minute goal inspired the team in extra time and lead them to have the confidence to win it. I don't think Campbell is a good manager, and most of the thistle fans don't either.

How many of those Thistle fans have you been canvassing Bryan-they form in reality probably only about the same percentage as those of us who doubt McInally.

Like it or not, Baldy has had SOME success in football management, and McInally, with arguably better resources (certainly than Brechin) has had none.

Do you suffer from alopeciaphobia by any chance? smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-06 09:11:57
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Oct 5 2006, 09:29 PM) [snapback]189479[/snapback]

who's stealing it? i'm more concerned about the amount of money the government is wasting in iraq and afghanistan, frankly.

and i was talking about the phrase 'black boy' not the colour, as you well know.

Who's touchy? The phrase 'black boy' WAS used in context by the poster-clearly you're the one who can't understand English.

Furthermore I'm well aware asylum seekers can't job seek-that's why they should exercise the option I mentioned, instead of coming here knowing fine well they intend to live on tax payers' money.

And while we're on the topic---'two blacks don't make a white'!!

I wish you and others would stop throwing in 'red herrings' like Afghanistan, 'Junkies' and so on-sure those too are evils, but unless people have experienced the truth about asylum seeking at grass roots (as I have in my occupation) they'd be better staying quiet.

My 'friend' Colkitto, is a consultant anaesthetist-an immigrant who's done a hell of a lot for this country. Your cheap innuendo does you no credit.
mortonjag 2006-10-06 10:03:39
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Oct 6 2006, 09:34 AM) [snapback]189612[/snapback]

i think the original poster is aware of the connotations of the phrase, mate. as are you.

He simply described behaviour after the 'Black Boy' came on.

Of course I, and probably he, know there are connotations to that phrase-I am suggesting HE did not intend it to be racially offensive, while you clearly are saying he did.
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The BOY is BLACK-what do you want him to do-describe him as 'Gretna's number whatever, whose colour I daren't mention in case some pseudo frog-(OOPS!) takes offence'. Get a life. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-06 10:13:28
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 6 2006, 09:14 AM) [snapback]189605[/snapback]

More than the 15 folk on here, there are many more than here there are numerous threads on ptfc.net wanting him out.

He had some success at Brechin with a bigger budget than some think, but outwith that what has he done unsure.gif

The '15 folk' Bryan constitute 11.5%. I stated that that may well be about the percentage of Thistle fans unhappy with Campbell. You are suggesting, purely on the basis of a fans' forum that the MAJORITY want him out-well the fact is they don't.

It's clear that for some reason or other you personally dislike Campbell-why else, when you are normally a reasonable guy, would you fly in the face of facts? The man has had significant success at division 2 level-that is indisputable.
mortonjag 2006-10-06 10:22:08 Well the IRA don't get off with it, and neither do bank robbers. How do that lot get passport 'foties' anyway?

Either unmask them or give them hoods with no eyes, and wee radar sets to let them get around like bats if they want to be so anonymous! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-06 11:02:23
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Oct 6 2006, 10:30 AM) [snapback]189630[/snapback]

ohmy.gif Eh??

You are unbelievable Queeny

How can you have the audacity to make that statement highlighted above.?

You obviously have some personal grudge or hatred for, by all accounts, a likeable millionaire from Gretna. Your regular disparagement of McInally's efforts could also lead some to wonder whether you have a personal problem there.

You sure seem to be “in the know” with the Thistle fans Morton JAG!

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It's my PERSONAL opinion that the 'likeable' millionaire (your opinion)-who's NOT from Gretna is as big a balloon in footballing terms as you are on this forum.

I PERSONALLY think McInally's got a lot to learn.

I PERSONALLY know a fair number of Jags fans-I don't just scan a web site as Bryan seems to do.

I also am a TON supporter-the only times I've ever been in Firhill have been to watch them, probably from before you had the misfortune to be born! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-06 11:08:14
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Oct 6 2006, 10:47 AM) [snapback]189635[/snapback]

unsure.gif I was going to ask for an explanation for that, but you know what, I'll just leave it.

Oh the wit!

Why don't you just consult the majority of posters whose opinions you always seem to know in advance Soupy Fanny.
smile.gif
Have you taken the medicine yet?
mortonjag 2006-10-06 11:12:35
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Oct 6 2006, 11:10 AM) [snapback]189642[/snapback]

what a total dick.

WHAT an intelligent comment!
mortonjag 2006-10-06 11:19:05
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Oct 6 2006, 10:49 AM) [snapback]189636[/snapback]

We're all pathetic ?

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

How many of you are there, or is that a secret between you and your shrink? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-06 11:38:08
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 6 2006, 11:33 AM) [snapback]189658[/snapback]

What about the fans chanting Campbell GTF rolleyes.gif

I don't dislike Campbell, i just think he is an awful manager at bigger clubs.
Dunfermline
Took over in Jan '99, relegated from the SPL that summer and sacked for the lack of perfomance in the 1st in Nov'99

Brechin
2000/2001 - Third in the Third Division
2001/2002 - Won the Third Division
2002/2003 - Promoted in 2nd place in the Second
2003/2004 - Relegated from the First Division
2004/2005 - Left in Jan when top of the Second

Thistle
2004/2005 - Relegated from the First Division
2005/2006 - Finshed 4th but went up via playoffs

Fair enough Bryan-I never said he was a Ferguson or a Wenger-but this thread's about McInally, and Campbell's record as you show, puts Jim well in the shade at our level.
mortonjag 2006-10-06 11:45:01
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 6 2006, 11:35 AM) [snapback]189659[/snapback]

What a reasoned argument. Would you care to elaborate? I know there are various viewpoints on this subject.

Why should he Alibi, when he KNOWS he KNOWS more about it than you?

Politicians have been striving valiantly for years to discredit the flagrant lies put about by scientists.

You don't believe the world is round as well do you? smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-06 11:51:20
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 6 2006, 11:42 AM) [snapback]189662[/snapback]

rolleyes.gif At a club that didn't have the same pressures for success as this club, the pars or the Jags. At teams with great pressue under the manager he has struggled.

I don't quite follow your argument-the Jags GOT promoted. and Dunfermline was a good while back.

Possibly in suggesting that TON managers are under huge pressure you've hit the nail on the head re. Jim. I've always known him to be a nice guy, so is it just that he hasn't coped with that pressure in the last couple of seasons. I don't know-just a thought.
mortonjag 2006-10-06 11:53:46
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 6 2006, 11:49 AM) [snapback]189664[/snapback]

You don't believe the world is round as well do you?

naw - Cappielow is quite flat.

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To a midge the penalty spot is a mountain smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-06 12:01:23
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 6 2006, 11:55 AM) [snapback]189669[/snapback]

Is that why Chris Miller doesn't take our penalties?....

Probably, but at least he wouldn't 'spoon' them over the bar!
mortonjag 2006-10-06 12:08:31
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 6 2006, 11:59 AM) [snapback]189671[/snapback]

he took them down before that, after being in a postion to save them

Bryan, you're bending statistics to make a point-fair enough, but statistics show clearly that Jim failed to get us promotion twice when he was in a MUCH STRONGER POSITION.
mortonjag 2006-10-06 12:18:26
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Oct 4 2006, 12:01 AM) [snapback]188830[/snapback]

Maybe the SFL2 proposals are not the right ones but at least they are trying to make a change which is sorely needed in Scottish football. There are a number of things that should happen

1) There should be a proper promotion/relegation structure in place. This essentially means two up two down to the SPL.
2) Leagues of ten lead to teams playing each other too often. Bigger leagues are required and maybe some more imaginative knock out competitions with seeded regional qualifying groups to make up the number of games required per season.
3) Finances need t be sorted out top to bottom
4) To qualify as a senior club you have to demonstrate and active youth development programme with home grown players coming through to the first team.

The SFL and the SFA imho have sat on their hands and done sweet FA about the decline of Scottish football whereas the SPL are a bunch of rapacious bastards who themselves almost brought Scottish football to its knees. Some of their clubs are not out the woods yet.

What is clear though is that the Johnny come latelys to the SPL - Caley Thistle, St Mirren, Falkirk - these clubs are making money and if they get relegated they lose money big time. Clubs like Killie and Dunfermline are carrying huge volumes of historical debt and even more so can't afford relegation. So, you can't make the turkies vote for Christmas and if SPL2 addresses the problem of getting them to agree to two up two down then it will cross the major hurdle Scottish football has.

I would favour an SFL 2 but with different criteria for entry as follows:

1) Clubs have to have a minimum number of signed playing staff - none of the nonsense we saw with Forfar the other week
2) Clubs have to demonstrate solvency and submit a solvent balance sheet each year along with a budget of what they expect for the coming year. Five year moratorium for currently insolvent clubs to get back to solvency.
3) Clubs may not spend more than 60% of income on wages. Income means income and not loans from sugar daddies
4) Clubs require a valid youth policy.
5) If you could get away with it, I would also have an 'at least 6/7 Scots in any team any club puts out' policy. That would overnight put a value back on the best players in all the leagues.

I would also open the trap door and allow easier promotion relegation from the SFL, maybe with a regionalised set up.

I could go on but I fear its all to radical for the suits in charge.

There's been a deafening silence since you asked folk to look at so called professional football as a business!

I agree with much of what you say, but how do you define a 'sugar daddy'.

Is it a Rae, a Romanov, a Mileson, or what.

Personally, I think investment from individuals should be welcomed IF it's genuinely in the interest of, and for the development of a club with genuine potential.
mortonjag 2006-10-06 12:22:21
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 6 2006, 12:15 PM) [snapback]189679[/snapback]

Bending unsure.gif he got them relegated rolleyes.gif .

By bending, I mean you are quoting them selectively-he's also got promotion twice rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-06 12:26:54
QUOTE(maurtaun @ Oct 6 2006, 11:27 AM) [snapback]189652[/snapback]

Hmm, maybe I'll go to word up on saturday, dressed like that.

Then they'll have to let me on or they are being racist.

Who are you going to get to walk ten paces in front of you? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-06 12:31:06
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 6 2006, 12:24 PM) [snapback]189684[/snapback]

no i am discussing him at bigger clubs rolleyes.gif

Bryan-can we get back to the point?

I suggested that somebody who has already got promotion from div2 twice might do a better job for us than Jim, who's failed twice at our level-that's all.

Are you going to dispute that possibility? sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-06 12:38:34
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 6 2006, 12:35 PM) [snapback]189688[/snapback]

Yes, as campbell couldn't cope with it.

Says Bryan! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-06 12:50:59
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Oct 6 2006, 12:35 PM) [snapback]189687[/snapback]

Its just another case of politcal correctness gone mad. Someone on the radio this morning was saying that when she went to Dubai (i think) if she wanted to go out the hotel she was expected to wear this type of clothing, plus when when my bird was in Morocco she had to cover up and stick to their customs. So why the hell are we so accomodating for them? I wish we would once and for all stop banging on about political correctness, and just say; if you want to stay in our country then you'll frigging well respect our culture and customs, otherwise beat it.

Well said DT-I'm surprised so few on the board have commented-maybe it's just that Inverclyde isn't so heavily populated by fundamental Muslims.

Where I live in Glasgow (Shawlands/Pollokshaws area) you'd sometimes think the masked brigade were in the majority. You're also right about their customs-they want us to be 'politically correct' but try to get first to a bargain in the supermarket when that lot are around. As for manners, they never hold a door open for you, nor say thanks if you do for them, and they straddle the aisles with their gaggles of undisciplined children as folks try to politely get past with their trolleys.

I am all for integration, and many Muslims are too, but, as you say, 'When in Rome, do as the Romans do'.
mortonjag 2006-10-06 12:59:58
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 6 2006, 12:43 PM) [snapback]189692[/snapback]

Some others may agree some may not,but if you want him as manager why don't you start a thread on it rolleyes.gif . The clubs target in the next 2 years should to win the 2nd and stay up in the 1st in the next season at the very least, if Jim can't deliver that he will be gone.

I don't want Campbell in particular, just anyone who has more experience than Jim. I don't know how fast he's learning his trade, and I believe we will get promotion this year, but he's done nothing so far to convince me that he's anything other than a good fitness coach and very nice man.

As I said previously, only time will tell, but those who claim he's a good manager on the strength of our early performance this season seem all too happy to forget his expensive failure in the last two.
mortonjag 2006-10-06 13:11:14
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Oct 6 2006, 12:42 PM) [snapback]189691[/snapback]

well, it is a load of crap!

i think it might be your opinion of certain politicians that is clouding your judgement. like tom says, the debate has moved on from global warming to climate change. the only question we're now trying to answer is 'how bad is it going to be?'

contrary to public perception (and leaving aside the opinion of care in the community types), there is a scientific consensus on this issue.

Alibi may have tried to dilute the'greenhouse effect' in his argument but he correctly described global warming as a primarily natural phenomenon, and what he said was not 'a load of crap'.

Even in the article Tom quotes, there is no universal agreement about just how much fossil fuel burning is aggravating that phenomenon.

It's almost impossible to get an entirely balanced view anywhere IMO.
mortonjag 2006-10-06 13:13:44
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 6 2006, 01:02 PM) [snapback]189696[/snapback]

Ask A. Williams and McCluskey doubt they will agree

Nice men sometimes have to make difficult decisions Bryan! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-06 13:30:31
QUOTE(edd @ Oct 6 2006, 01:17 PM) [snapback]189701[/snapback]

that is one side of the argument - and the side that i tend to agree with in such debates - but the thing is that in our country we have human rights, including respect for an individual's culture and religion. exceptions can be made only where absolutely necessary.

often it seems to be the same people who criticise cultures for being barbaric or uncivilised who then turn round and say we should treat these people with no respect. that's not how it works - other cultures might seem uncivilised according to our culture but we are not (according to our own culture), and it is uncivilised to act uncivilised even towards uncivilised people ...

at the end of the day, though, it does get more than a bit irritating when people take advantage of the UK's human rights laws insisting that we respect their cultures while at the same time they refuse to respect out culture and if we criticise them for it we are labelled racist ... but what can you do other than not stoop to their level?

edd-the problem seems to me to be the definition of those 'human rights' that everybody seems to know all about. They are NOT God given, or written in stone, and they seem to be different in different parts of the world.

As Dunoon Ton says, this IS our country. We already accept people of all creeds, cultures, and colours who want to be part of it, and over two or three generations they, and we have benefited from their coming here.

Unfortunately the radical Muslim issue sticks out like a sore thumb at the moment-it is ALL about wanting to be different, staying different, AND throwing it right in our faces IMO.

I've discussed the issue with several Muslim friends-they all have individual takes, but in general they are embarrassed by the behaviour of the masked brigade, and see their behaviour as retrograde.

It will be interesting to see if Jack Straw gets pilloried for this, but hopefully common sense will prevail.
mortonjag 2006-10-06 13:35:12
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Oct 6 2006, 01:29 PM) [snapback]189705[/snapback]

I agree, anyone who calls you a dick is pretty smart in my book.

Away back to Thistle creep.

Have I upset you AGAIN? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-06 13:43:27
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Oct 6 2006, 01:26 PM) [snapback]189704[/snapback]

Could you actually be more condescending! huh.gif

McInally and Campbell went head to head last season and McInally finished 12 points ahead. I don’t understand why Bryan hasn’t lost patience with you yet. Your personal vendetta against our manager is absolutely pathetic.

Go speak to any football fan from anywhere in the UK and tell them of our position in the league, the goals lost etc. Then tell them you want to sack the manager
- They’ll laugh at you……………. but you’re probably used to that.
.

Nothing condescending about stating a fact-Bryan doesn't slag me off indiscriminately like you do-and we can have a decent civilised argument.

I have no personal vendetta against anyone-not even you-but as long as you try to wind me up I'll keep coming back at you. You're obviously not nearly as intelligent as you think you are, and as I've said before I've rarely heard you voice an original thought.

Go and tell any football fan in the rest of Britain about the vast difference in resources between us and Ayr, or Stirling, and they'll ask you why we haven't taken full points so far. cool.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-06 13:54:53
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Oct 6 2006, 01:49 PM) [snapback]189716[/snapback]

Listen ya Old Queen stop stalking me.
What has this got to do with you anyway?

EVERYTHING you TWAT-you just accused me of being condescending to Bryan as you tried to score points at chrissiboi's expense-who do YOU think you are-you can't cope with people who are your intellectual superior, but you're happy to rip into anything that isn't up to your dubious standards.

If you'd just see a psychiatrist as I've suggested, it might save you unleashing your anger on this board.
mortonjag 2006-10-06 13:59:42
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Oct 6 2006, 01:38 PM) [snapback]189710[/snapback]

You have a wee problem dont you. Give it a rest will you.
Its quite obviously refering to

Missed the point again-maybe YOU should back off-but suit yourselves.
mortonjag 2006-10-06 14:11:05
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 6 2006, 01:51 PM) [snapback]189718[/snapback]

I really can't believe why this thread is still going on.

Mortonjag, you are a total idiot to still be spouting this p1sh.

So now you want the manager sacked as two clubs have scraped a point against us, however we have beaten the other 7 in the league!

Get a reality check on what you are saying. This is our best start in most folks living memory and to be posting nonsence like this is indefensible!

We've drawn two league games, lost two cup games away from home, haven't lost at Cappielow since March, and are playing some great football at times.

I really think you must be a wind up merchant!

piehutt-for the benefit of you and the rest who only read what they want to-I've NEVER said I want McInally sacked, NOR have I said we're doing badly this season.

I am certainly not an idiot, and I wouldn't dream of calling someone that just because I disagreed with him.

The 'pish' I have been 'spouting' happens to be the view of 12% of posters-not just me-who don't see McInally through rose tinted spectacles, and I make no apologies for voicing my opinion on an OPEN forum.

As for being a 'wind-up merchant'-no I'm mortonjag-just me, and I don't hide behind multiple personas or pretend to be a woman, like some of the 'children' on this board do.
mortonjag 2006-10-06 14:13:56
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Oct 6 2006, 02:00 PM) [snapback]189726[/snapback]

True.

However look back at your comment. You may notice that you ended the sentence with a smiley with " eyes rolling up" to signify condescension.

A small apology would be acceptable

Bryan's the smiley specialist-he puts them in for fun and when I reply I do too-if there was a smiley for F*CK OFF I'd put it right here though! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-06 14:23:45
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Oct 6 2006, 02:11 PM) [snapback]189733[/snapback]

laugh.gif what a strop queeny boy!!

You WERE condescending to Bryan however I’m sure Bryan like me doesn’t care what you think.

I didn’t try to "score points" at Chrissiboi's expense however I didn't and still don’t understand his post. I’m also not alone in that, if you bother to read anyone else’s comments and not just mine, you'd have seen that.

So again little man, stop stalking me. Get off the computer and get back to doing whatever it is you do during your long monotonous days. Maybe you could finish that Who To Kill First list you've been writing since school

CREEP!
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Well, one point at a time-Bryan and JonaTon have already cleared the first one.

Maybe you weren't bright enough to see chrissiboi's tongue almost bursting his cheek, but given the normal tone of your posts your comment came over as sarcastic.

Finally I'm not 'stalking you', but if you really feel threatened by an 'old queen' why don't you put me on 'ignore'. I'd welcome the peace!

By the way, should you not be back at school by now?
mortonjag 2006-10-06 14:26:55
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Oct 6 2006, 02:21 PM) [snapback]189738[/snapback]

laugh.gif

I see where you’re going but the apology would be for saying that he wasn’t being condescending.

I’m not looking an apology for him actually being a condescending creep.

To be honest, I’m so bored with all this anyway.

Can I say in a totally uncondescending manner that your English is getting worse by the minute?
mortonjag 2006-10-06 14:30:24
QUOTE(Super Nanny @ Oct 6 2006, 02:27 PM) [snapback]189741[/snapback]

Sorry for taking up everyone’s time with this. I know it must be very boring for everyone else.

So, he wins, he’s smarter than me and has more friends than me and knows much more about everything than me. He’s not a self opinionated old queen and he doesn’t regard himself as superior to all other posters. He also doesn’t have a chip on his shoulder about Gretna and McInally.

I’m a silly wee thing with very little brain and will never post where he posts ever again.

SN
xx

Promises, promises-we shall see! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-06 15:05:02
QUOTE(btb @ Oct 6 2006, 02:29 PM) [snapback]189742[/snapback]

You may not!

Thank you, though I MAY have been querying my vocal ability!
mortonjag 2006-10-06 15:44:57
QUOTE(AyrAndy @ Oct 6 2006, 03:02 PM) [snapback]189748[/snapback]

Having spent time in the UAE (Dubai and Abu Dhabi) as well as other predominately muslim countries like Malaysia I can say that the above is just sh!te. When in these countries you can go about your business no problems the only dress code you will find is that swimming costumes ie bikinis or speedos (if anyone still wears them) and the like should be worn at the pool area or at the beach not anywhere else. I have never had any problem in these countries and they certainly do not expect foreign female visitors or workers to dress in such attire.

Andy, it's not clear what you're trying to say-are you calling the other poster in question, just relating your own experiences, or suggesting that we should be tolerant of the masked brigade.

What you found only goes to illustrate the diversity of opinion about this issue even in different Muslim countries.
mortonjag 2006-10-06 16:13:49
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 6 2006, 03:53 PM) [snapback]189765[/snapback]

I tried to avoid reading this thread but it won't go away.

It is without doubt the most irrelevant, pointless, and stupid thread I have ever had the pleasure, or dis-pleasure as it turned out, to have read.

Some people really are f***ing idiots aren't they.

So silly in fact that voting on it would be useless.

135 have voted to date Barbarossa-who rattled your cage-are they the f***ing idiots or were you referring to yourself for reading the thread?
mortonjag 2006-10-06 16:24:16
QUOTE(AyrAndy @ Oct 6 2006, 04:04 PM) [snapback]189771[/snapback]

Not calling any poster into question but we live in a democratic country of free speech and diversity, I couldn't care less about what people wear, a muslim woman in a veil or a ned in a Morton top, which one offends more....... answer is neither.

Last week I chased a group of youngsters who were throwing stones at my neighbours house were they members of the subversive muslim "Masked Brigade" no just your run of the mill young white neds, then again maybe they should be tolerated as they are white and don't cover their face and this is after all "their country".

Andy, there's tolerance and tolerance. A wee bit of latitude does no harm with regard to any principle. For example Dunoon Ton mentions people coming here on holiday-well if they want to buoy up our tourism they can wear masks if they want, as far as I'm concerned.

The problem though, is always where to draw the line. If the behaviour of the masked brigade is generally acceptable to the British Public, that's grand. If it's not unmask them. That's what used to be called democracy.
mortonjag 2006-10-06 17:45:57
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 6 2006, 04:31 PM) [snapback]189791[/snapback]

Correct on both counts, and it wasn't a toothless budgie who rattled my cage, am I not allowed to have an opinion.
What team do you support again, remind me I seem a bit confused, must be my grey matter not being able to keep up with your wit.

If you think 136 posters are f***ing idiots because they did what you regard as below your dignity, it's not hard to see where you got your name BARBAROSSA

Of course your entitled to your opinion, but don't forget you'll be judged by it as well.

I've been supporting Morton from way before you were born and have seen many a manager come and go-a few have been great, some rank, and many pretty average.

We are ALL entitled to our opinions, AND to voicing them!
mortonjag 2006-10-06 17:52:52
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Oct 6 2006, 04:15 PM) [snapback]189778[/snapback]

well, 50% of people have got iqs of less than 100.

do you get your kicks from being a total dick or what? albeit an 'intellectually superior' one.

I actually do get a kick out of folk like you taking the bait. It's really funny to be insulted by guys I don't know, and who haven't a clue what I'm really like.

I take it you're suggesting that those '50%' (don't quite understand how 50% can be below AND 50% above, if some ARE IQ 100) are f***ing idiots!
mortonjag 2006-10-06 18:17:18
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 6 2006, 06:06 PM) [snapback]189827[/snapback]

Thank you for allowing my opinion, and I look forward to being judged.
There are not 136 individual poster posted on this ridiculous subject, so no, I don't think 136 people are f***ing idiots, just individuals like yourself, but then again that is only my opinion, remember a good few of my friends have voted in this 'poll', and yes I do think they were daft to get involved, but clicking a wee radio button is a far cry shorter than debating it.

Are you saying Emperor Barbarossa was a tyrant, oh my that hurts me to the bone.

You must be an old man if you have been following Morton since before I was born, so fair play, but I thought the older you got the wiser you became. But it seems that myth has been blown.

At no time did I say that no-one was to withhold they're opinions, but as you said I am entitled to mine, and as far as I’m concerned debating the future of a manager who has his team 7 points clear is plain stupid.

BTW, run a poll and see who thinks you are a f***ing idiot, of course I wouldn't waste my time voting, but I think a fair few of the posters on here would be clicking your wee radio button.

Right i'm away to lie down, the shock of being told i'm a youngster has went to my head.

Well it obviously has since your grammar's WENT to the dogs-you semi- educated guys give yourselves away time and time again!

That was a HELL of a long way to say you DO think I'm a f***ing idiot, but coming from you that's still deference to a superior! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-06 18:20:09
QUOTE(MrX @ Oct 6 2006, 05:48 PM) [snapback]189819[/snapback]

Mortonjag you are a pie

Very good-for Super Nanny read MrX-get a life child! mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-06 18:27:57
QUOTE(marxist_ton' @ Oct 6 2006, 04:48 PM) [snapback]189799[/snapback]

I agreed with Ian Hislop on last nights Question Time? when he said that, Straw has every right to ask someone to do this and they have every right to say no. The whole thing about it promotes seperation is just bollocks. I walk about wearing a morton top and a pair of baggy jeans. I could be the only one in Greenock doing that but I wouldn't be seperated even though I was the only one doing so.

It doesn't promote separation, MT, it IS separation-they WANT to be different, and separate, yet have all the advantages of British Citizenry.

The Indian sari is a national costume, like our kilt, and I have no problem with that, but those veils and hajibs are symbols of religious separation, and I believe the majority of Brits find them distasteful.
mortonjag 2006-10-11 15:36:06
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Oct 11 2006, 03:24 PM) [snapback]191240[/snapback]

I use onetel or talk talk or whatever they are called just now and thankfully have not had any issues with them.. so far.

I get a bill every month and they are the cheapest option available for me just now.

I will be wary however of this Migration Code issue if I ever change provider.

Just one question: Is it only if you have line rental with them you need this MAC?

Thanks.

BT have exclusive rights to line rental, but the MAC code has to be released to you by any ISP when you decide to change supplier.

I think the rules changed quite recently, and now any ISP MUST release your MAC code on request, but if you've signed a contract and leave early, you still have to pay outstanding dues til the contract end.
mortonjag 2006-10-12 11:22:05 I'm sure you've researched this, but I have been told very clearly on many occasions that BT HAVE exclusive rights to rent their lines out.

My understanding is that those other companies will SUPPLY the service and, yes, you may end up cheaper than BT, but everything ultimately depends on BT operations-in other words a monopoly.
mortonjag 2006-10-12 11:47:25 St Thomas of Cardonald-Aye right.

He's a tireless opportunist, jumping at any chance of more publicity. His ex mates in the SSP made a complete arse of trying to 'stitch him up', so he got £200,000 for being brighter than them.

To me that proves nothing I didn't already suspect. Champion of the people-NO- champion of Mr Thomas Sheridan-YES.

Tommy is one of those guys who can't see death when he's staring right up the gun barrel, but he's getting his 'come uppance' very soon. Mark my words.
mortonjag 2006-10-12 12:46:44 Well-where WAS the baldy skunk last night? dry.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-12 12:55:13 It's the old argument-when is an asset too much of a liability?

I thought McFadden was IMMENSE on Saturday-if we had had more of that spirit under Bertie 'my boyse' Vogts, we wouldn't be so far down the rankings.

For what it's worth Kenny Miller cost us much more dearly with his priceless miss last night-shame 'cos he's been brilliant too.
mortonjag 2006-10-12 13:02:06 Bannerman's a good squad player at div 2/3 level, AND he got us promotion.

There's no point in slagging the guy off-he's got good and bad points like all players, but at least you always got him the same way-100%, 100% of the time.
mortonjag 2006-10-12 13:05:12
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Oct 12 2006, 01:01 PM) [snapback]191468[/snapback]

mortonjag in incomprehensible nonsense post shock ohmy.gif

rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-12 13:17:40
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Oct 12 2006, 01:13 PM) [snapback]191476[/snapback]

what, are you going to whack him or something? laugh.gif

Not personally, but I have it on good authority that the whacking's coming fairly soon-of course I can't reveal my sources because-er-because you don't on those forums !! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-12 13:24:18 C'mon guys-be fair, were you at Hampden on Saturday? We could have been three nil down at half time if France had got the breaks they deserved.

Last night we got it the other way, and that's just football.
mortonjag 2006-10-12 13:27:13 On September's form Jim well deserved it, but Mixu was cheated out of the last one IMO.
mortonjag 2006-10-12 13:30:25
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Oct 12 2006, 01:28 PM) [snapback]191486[/snapback]

WHERE? cool.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-12 13:55:01
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Oct 12 2006, 01:40 PM) [snapback]191494[/snapback]

Pish, the team who get the most points in a month deserve the award.

Paatelainen's mob did all right, but not enough.

That's the Team of the month award your talking about! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-12 14:01:17
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Oct 12 2006, 01:46 PM) [snapback]191500[/snapback]

who found out that badgers arse are rough anyway?

Gay badgers dry.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-12 14:07:02
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Oct 12 2006, 02:05 PM) [snapback]191505[/snapback]

Manager's get awarded it on their teams performance, not how fat they are.

Cheeky boy-Mixu's just sturdy-AND he's got lovely skin! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-12 14:12:37 Assuming God lets him play on Saturday, how do you see it?

For my money Del will find him difficult but wee McGowan might take the piss.

What really worries me though, is him coming up for set pieces-thank God-oops- McGurn's back, but I'd hate to see a repeat of last year at Firhill when big Santala had Stu and Ryan falling all over each other.
mortonjag 2006-10-12 15:42:13
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Oct 12 2006, 02:50 PM) [snapback]191517[/snapback]

No guarantee he'll play after missing so many games and playing a reserve game.

Remember Gonet got a rare clean sheet against Brechin, maybe he'll keep his place.

Plastic cat in hell has more chance than Gonet playing if McGurn's fit. He's still nervous and inexperienced. Against Brechin he had one excellent reflex save-that was all he had to do. McGurn WILL play.
mortonjag 2006-10-12 15:46:52
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Oct 12 2006, 02:43 PM) [snapback]191515[/snapback]

Aye, his arse bone and belly bone are some size. tongue.gif

Let's face it the guy's just one big Finn bone!
mortonjag 2006-10-12 15:54:57 Naw-much too finn and the wrong colour! mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-12 15:58:51
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Oct 12 2006, 02:35 PM) [snapback]191514[/snapback]

Now as we enter the 2nd quarter of the season, It is Paramount that Mcinaly drums it into the squad that nothing is won "yet" and not one players team position is a certainty keeping the whole squad on their toes from now untill it is mathematicaly imposible for other teams to catch us. If we can be as succesful this quarter it will give the fans, Directors and players alike a very short winter and give the team a bit of breathing space when it comes to crucial games were pressure will be of the essence knowing that all will be not lost in the event of any potential hic-cup, after all the rest of the league are already chasing....................LONG MAY IT LAST

I agree entirely with one addition-he should be 'drumming it into them' every minute of every game.
mortonjag 2006-10-12 16:09:25
QUOTE(dazed'n'confused @ Oct 12 2006, 03:45 PM) [snapback]191542[/snapback]

I will watch tonight but not beacuse sheridan is on , but because I always watch it when it comes from Scotland.

I also have no great thoughts on his innocence or otherwise in the lurid trial we all had to suffer,it was sad to see former friends fall out so spectacularly and a political party tear itself to pieces before, during and after it.

My only observation would be that he did slag off those who sold their story to the press ,then promptly sold his own to a rag like the labour liar , which despises all that he stands for beggared belief!

I fear the recent revelations surrounding him might deflect from what would have been a good debate and turn it into farce, wishful thinking but I hope we get some debate on the issues concerning Scotland .

The trouble for me is that until the Sheridan issue is finally cleared he's lost credibility with most thinking people.

The media are delighted to tout him about at the moment as he's good gossip fodder, and the bold Thomas can't resist the limelight, (and the money I assume).

Tonight should be interesting. If there's any serious debate Tommy'll spew out all the old lefty 'champion of the people' s***e-fair enough-but if they have a go at him personally WATCH the body language!!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-12 16:13:05
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Oct 12 2006, 04:01 PM) [snapback]191549[/snapback]

My god pick me up.........................some one agrees wae me, its been a long time coming but worth the wait 7yrs 3 mths 4 days 13 hrs 6 min and 10 sec

I thought it would never happen...................WAHOO

anyhow if he "drums it intae them" he might take a bit oh "stick"

He can take as much stick as you like as long as they keep playing out of their skins!
mortonjag 2006-10-12 16:15:46
QUOTE(maurtaun @ Oct 12 2006, 04:10 PM) [snapback]191555[/snapback]

No, it was Big Stiv with the beard and long hair

Can we rename this 'Test your sexuality-what do you see first, punt or ****?!!
mortonjag 2006-10-13 12:50:52
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Oct 13 2006, 03:43 AM) [snapback]191680[/snapback]

Chicken Kiev = Chick [Young - baldy skunk] In Kiev

That was very poor Mortonjag. tongue.gif

Must say I agree, but couldn't resist! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-13 12:54:49
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Oct 12 2006, 11:10 PM) [snapback]191674[/snapback]

Like I said on another thread, you don't play 30 odd games (scoring 4 goals, remembering he's a defender) during a SPL Championship winning season if you aren't a good player.

Of course he's good Iain, and he's dropping two footballing levels. Those who don't see him as a menace when coming forward must have more faith in God than he has! sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-13 13:03:11
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Oct 13 2006, 11:38 AM) [snapback]191741[/snapback]

Yes but it was MortonJag! So I'm not sure that acutally counts!!

biggrin.gif ScotinBelgie

ACUTALLY-I believe all opinions should be regarded with equal respect, and if you don't like mine-well that's acutally fine by me! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-13 14:15:08
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Oct 13 2006, 01:58 PM) [snapback]191760[/snapback]

I’m pleased to announce that our unbeaten run will continue as,

‘McInally Get It Sorted’

will not see a Morton game till Boxing Day.

I bet you’re all jumping for joy my contract’s been extended over here laugh.gif

I'm going to get myself signed up to Paltalk or whatever it is we do to listen to the games.

C'Mon The Ton tongue.gif
PS: Well done to McInally for his 2nd successive MOTM award.

Keep up the good work, after all I'm keeping up my end of the bargain by staying away laugh.gif

You sound pleased-congratulations.

Unfortunately I'll still be stuck here, but I'm giving Jim the benefit of the doubt 'til 4.45 on 14/10/06 ! unsure.gif

PS and even JIM will find it hard to beat Mr Andrews AND God!!
mortonjag 2006-10-13 15:34:24
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Oct 13 2006, 02:58 PM) [snapback]191767[/snapback]

I wonder if any poster/newspaper columnist will make a marvin andrews thread/article without making a god related gag.

ok marv is a nutter with an agenda and a warped sense of reality so he is line for a slagging - but it gets kind of boring after a while.

Obviously not too boring for you to comment!

I don't think he's a 'nutter' at all-he obviously has a very strong faith in his God, and his 'reality' clearly makes him a very content man.

That said, he is a total 'one off' in the footballing arena, and that naturally sparks interest, and cynicism.

For my part any allusions to God when I post about Marvin are totally 'tongue in cheek', and not meant to be offensive.
mortonjag 2006-10-13 15:39:40 I'll be over the moon if we get a point out of this one-Raith have gained a wee bit of momentum, and despite what others are saying Andrews is a threat. I believe we'll score two at least, but might just get 'mugged' by the big man.

Prediction 2-2
mortonjag 2006-10-14 08:36:53
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 14 2006, 02:05 AM) [snapback]191915[/snapback]

I was once in your shoes. rolleyes.gif

Our truce has suprisingly held strong for a few months now. ohmy.gif

Bob, don't lower yourself, you were NEVER in ITS shoes.

We had a barny because we had different views-Soupy Fanny is a wee boy with a chip on his shoulder, masquerading as a woman.

He pulls other posters to pieces, and never issues a constructive comment, but he shouldn't have taken me on.

Anyway he's promised to back off.


WE SHALL SEE !!!!! dry.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-14 08:41:32
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 13 2006, 08:09 PM) [snapback]191842[/snapback]

Raith 1 Morton 2
How match sharp will gods disciple be ? Not very . Plenty of movement upfront for us . How many games has Scott Bannerman played this season.
Good test for MacInally to see if he can overcome the astute Levein.
Miller , Lilley
att 2,750
MON THE TON

Shouldn't that read, 'Good test for Levein-----?' rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-14 08:47:37
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Oct 12 2006, 07:42 PM) [snapback]191609[/snapback]

When is it and should we add to our squad, if so what areas would be looking to improve in the team.

Bawheid, you'll notice it's more than twelve hours since you started this thread, and nobody's made a single suggestion!

How fickle we fans are-if we get a bad result today, just watch the self appointed managers deciding who should be signing for us.

The one signing I'd like is an experienced manager-I don't expect ANY support, but guys, please don't even bother slagging me off, as it won't alter my opinion in the slightest. Just give it time.
mortonjag 2006-10-15 19:29:54 Mortonjag can't resist the temptation to say something negative! smile.gif

Raith had the game wrapped up yesterday, our heads were down, and we were running out of ideas. The boys-as far as I could see-were getting no inspiration or direction from the sidelines-AS USUAL.

Then big Sanny came on-why wee Paul was left on and obviously struggling for so long, I can't fathom- and HE changed the game, setting up Scott, getting the penalty, and scoring a goal out of the top drawer too.

To those of you who slagged him consistently--where are you? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-15 19:41:35
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Oct 14 2006, 08:34 PM) [snapback]192281[/snapback]

Next Friday it will be 2 years since Jim McInally was appointed as Morton Manager and, given the stick he takes on this Board from some fans, I thought I'd look at his league statistics since then:
P72 W42 D16 L14

If we take the stats from January 2005 only when Jim had settled in and begun to build 'his team', the figures are even better:

P65 W39 D14 L12

Not a bad record at all. Keep up the good work Jim! smile.gif

--I had a look at his league statistics too

Played 2.25 seasons Lost promotion x 2

Charitable donations (AYR and STIRLING) x 2

Statistics can be made to prove anything. If you look at the strength of the whole Ton setup versus the rest of the division statistically we should have full points, and should have gubbed Brechin in the cup.

McInally was outsmarted yet again yesterday, and those of you who think the sun shines out of his arse, have a big slice of luck (cracking shot off our bar when we were one down) AND Chris T to thank.

He's a good fitness coach, and can spot talent, but he's no manager. I'd love him to get promotion to Dundee United or Hibs, just to shut you lot up.
mortonjag 2006-10-15 19:51:45
QUOTE(1insert_player_here @ Oct 15 2006, 07:38 PM) [snapback]192873[/snapback]

I'm here. Last season I slagged him constantly, and said that he did not deserve another chance this season, which he didn't.

Does that make me a bad person? mellow.gif

No-- just an incredibly poor judge! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-15 20:30:29
QUOTE(TonFan @ Oct 15 2006, 07:55 PM) [snapback]192886[/snapback]

Yet won the game 3-1 rolleyes.gif

The trouble with folk like you and piehutt is that you haven't learned to read what other posters say, and haven't a clue about indulging in a logical argument.

I've no God given right to my opinions, but why don't you lot try to come up with something positive and interesting instead of stating the obvious.

If a jet fighter beats a glider, and the first's on auto pilot, who's the more accomplished airman in the duel?

Or is that one WELL above you? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-15 20:36:08
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 14 2006, 07:17 PM) [snapback]192230[/snapback]

I think that Hibs going for a division 2 manager like Jim or Mixu (also been linked) would be quite a gamble.

I'm sure there are plenty of more experienced guys out there in the leagues, or even out of work, who would be a safer pair of hands.

Ian McColl must be a better shout than Jim.

I think Jim has really found his feet this season and with only a few new faces the team has been transformed - surely a lot of this is to do with Jim becoming a better manager and taking lessons from each game.

Indeed---that was an inspired managerial performance yesterday-deliberately lulling Raith into a false sense of security, then unveiling the secret plan. rolleyes.gif

Piehutt, in another thread you just described me as an idiot. Do you perchance wear black specs and carry a long cane?
mortonjag 2006-10-15 20:40:13
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 15 2006, 05:36 PM) [snapback]192830[/snapback]

On the subject of bookings, I thought Millar's was totally needless, he needs to watch those. It's great to see him getting stuck in but he needs to channel it a bit more sensibly.

Millar's attempt at a tackle was so daft and clumsy, that I thought the Ref was a complete prick to book him, but like most of the men in black or whatever, that we get, he was very inconsistent.
mortonjag 2006-10-15 20:46:11
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 15 2006, 08:41 PM) [snapback]192901[/snapback]

Look I have tried to indulge in logical debate but your posts are so incredibly picky and negative that I do think that you are taking the p1ss at times.

To criticise our current form is absolutely dispicable for any reasonably minded morton fan. Our form this season has been fantastic and probably the best start we have made to a season in 40 years.

We have drawn two league games against stuffy teams who sat back and got some breaks. We have won every other league game. It would be almost impossible to go through a season undefeated, players will have off days and other teams will get breaks. But we've still not lost a league game.

Yesterday was a fantastic come back with some great subs from Jim which turned the game. You can be critical of our early play but the result speaks for itself.

The fact that you think our league position or league form is not good enough makes your arguments completely foolish as both could scarcely be better.

As for the cup game - it would be nice to win these games but we had players out in that game and the league is the clear priority, especially with such a small squad.

You clearly have some personal vendetta against McInally who is doing a great job. That much is clear in your posts which makes them fairly irrelevant to me and other fair minded Ton fans.

To you, and 'other fair minded Ton fans', may I suggest that if you are indeed fair minded you will respect my opinions even if you disagree with them.

Thanks for the explanation though--it's much less idiotic than calling ME an idiot.
mortonjag 2006-10-15 20:56:25
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 15 2006, 08:49 PM) [snapback]192906[/snapback]

No, I am farily well sighted thanks.

Do you burn effigies of Jim McInally in the square of the village where your departure deprives them of an idiot?

Nice of you to use spell check that time! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-15 21:01:46
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 15 2006, 08:47 PM) [snapback]192905[/snapback]

But my opinion is that you are an idiot.

And what does that tell me and 'other fair minded Ton supporters' about you?

If you want a personal slagging match piehutt, don't bother-you won't tire me out, and others just get pissed off.

I've watched your posts for some time and have agreed with a lot you've said.
I have no PERSONAL issue with Jim, but I've watched the Ton for 46 years, and seen many a manager come and go, and I just think he's still got a hell of a lot to learn.

THAT IS ALL
mortonjag 2006-10-16 09:18:24
QUOTE(axeman @ Oct 15 2006, 09:08 PM) [snapback]192913[/snapback]

I notice you keep repeating this mantra, mortonjag. What age are you ? 60,61 ?

Who did you support for the 14-15 years before Hal Stewart came to Cappielow ?

You are spot on axeman-I've supported the Ton all my life-or from when I first understood anything about football, but I only got to my first match when I was fourteen, because my parents moved away from the Port when I was seven.

Anyway, what's the point of your 'mantra' question?
mortonjag 2006-10-16 09:30:45
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 15 2006, 11:34 PM) [snapback]192968[/snapback]

Look mate, to criticise our current form is indefensible. Our current form is beyond that which anyone could have expected. Your argument has no reason to it what so ever.

McInally is a young manager and has certainly taken time to find his feet but has certainly shown vast improvement since he took the job on.

To say he has a lot to learn is fair enough, but he could hardly be doing any better so what do you want to think he can improve to?

piehutt-that's much better!

I understand that you are pleased with our current form, but it has been flawed and is therefore open to criticism from me and anyone else.

I agree that Jim is on an upward learning curve, and that he has improved. In my opinion that improvement has been slow, and his failings still stick out a mile.

In answer to your third point, I'm afraid I'll just have to repeat previous posts where I've stated that so far he doesn't demonstrate the guile or nous of several other managers at division 2 level.

His success so far, is largely down to him having at his disposal a very fit squad of full time players whose talents are globally well ahead of the rest of the pack.

When they play well, they are a joy to watch, but when they don't and need motivated IT IS NOT THERE.

Furthermore McInally singularly failed to bring in the experienced midfield general many of us were pleading for, and Saturday's performance (til the last 25 mins) threw that right back in his face.
mortonjag 2006-10-16 09:45:03 I'm not a religious person, and I'm relatively apolitical, but I see in the news that the head of the Roman Catholic Church in Scotland is endorsing independence, citing Ireland and Denmark as models.

He may well have a valid point, but at a time when we're all getting up in arms over Muslim clerics spouting off, I think he'd be better sticking to what he's paid for.
mortonjag 2006-10-16 16:18:49
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Oct 16 2006, 10:33 AM) [snapback]193046[/snapback]

MJ I heard this morning the opposite that Politicans should not get involved in religious matters since the Jack Straw comment, so no doubt its equal!

I agree in general, but I think Mr Straw was objecting to being unable to make what he regards as normal human contact , rather than singling out religion as the specific cause.
mortonjag 2006-10-16 16:37:08
QUOTE(axeman @ Oct 16 2006, 04:10 PM) [snapback]193140[/snapback]

The point is whenever you are taken to task by members of this board over your opinions, you quote 46 years as if this gives you some sort of trump card of experience which somehow validates your opinion over the other person's.

I've seen a lot of people support Morton from a matter of months to 70 years plus & I can assure you that some of the ones that have been there the longest still know the least.

You constantly slate McInally & yet from previous postings I take it you are a big fan of Allan McGraw. Tell me just how much managerial experience did Allan have before he became our manager ? I recall him being described in the press as local publican gets Ton job. Is that the experience you're looking for ?

Of course maybe this is all just a gag & you just like having arguments with the younger members. If so whatever floats your boat, I suppose.

I think I have quoted my years of supporting the Ton four times in over 2000 posts axeman-get your facts right.

I am and was an admirer of McGraw, but I criticised what I saw wrong with him, just as I'll continue to do with Jim.

Lastly, I DON'T think wisdom is necessarily the province of the elderly, but it's pretty universally accepted that you can't put an old head on young shoulders.
mortonjag 2006-10-17 10:08:43
QUOTE(axeman @ Oct 16 2006, 04:44 PM) [snapback]193147[/snapback]

Did I say how many times ? No, get your facts right, I said previous postings & I was right you are a fan of Allan McGraw's, so how much experience did he have ?

As for your final point I think Worzel Gummidge was a fine exponent of that wink.gif

You stated that I cite my age 'WHENEVER' I am taken to task. I assure you Sir, that that happens day and daily!

McGraw gained a lot of experience over the years, just as Jim hopefully will. He made many mistakes, especially in the early days.

Which team did Worzel Gummidge manage-I seem to have forgotten? wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-17 10:13:05
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 16 2006, 10:54 PM) [snapback]193223[/snapback]

Well it was still a player he brought in and really complemented our style of play well. It's all very well bringing in a good player but for Stevenson to fit in so well from the start was even better. And it aint like loads of division 1 clubs were after Stevenson where he would be fairly comfortable.
I don't think you can say that considering we are doing so well. If we continue on this form (I know it is likely we will drop points) we will no doubt break all points and goals records.
And yet has spanked every one of them for the past two seasons, barring the economics of Gretna.
I don't buy this argument, you can only beat what's put in front of you and we've done that comfortably this season. 9 points clear after 10 games is incredible and to nit pick and single resutls or even some passages of games is crazy and very childish.

Any number of examples and clouded views of games could make even the best performers seem average, where as we have been outstanding this season.
I think Millar and McLaughlin have been both outstanding in the middle of the park. And yet we have you criticising them for a display for part of a game when in reality the points were dished out after the whole of the game which we won well.

Supposing you were made charge of Morton tomorrow? Forget what you might have done in the past, consider that we are where we are and you can pull the strings. Would you sack Jim?

I think it was a mistake to sign Jim when we did. He was the wrong choice, and failed to get promotion twice.

We will get promotion this year, and I wouldn't dream of sacking him right now.

If it ain't broke don't fix it, but just because it ain't broke doesn't mean it's going as well as it could.

Only time will tell.
mortonjag 2006-10-17 10:27:27
QUOTE(simplyton @ Oct 16 2006, 06:04 PM) [snapback]193171[/snapback]

Thought he was MOM - strolled through the game in defence and also helped out in attack - looked a class above the 2nd division although we seem to play into his hands.

Temps probably was the most influential player on the park as he pretty much turned the game but the view that it was a soft penalty award may have went against him.

Andrews' class stuck out a mile, and his very presence got his mates 'up for it'.

Raith were extremely unlucky to lose that game.

From a Ton viewpoint, though, and especially as he was only on for a third of the match big Sanny was outstanding, and shouldn't have been missed by the press.
mortonjag 2006-10-17 10:31:56
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 16 2006, 02:54 PM) [snapback]193123[/snapback]

I think we've all seen what Temps can do when he gets the ball to his feet.

Last season we just didn't play to his strengths at all, I'm sure McLarens moaning didn't help matters.

I think we've already seen some great goals from him despite not starting much and I think he has earned the right to a start next week ahead of the wee man.

Paul is only 19 and so a spell on the bench will do a player this young no harm at all. Let him know what professional football is all about.

piehutt-we've found common ground-I could not agree more.

Big Sanny's head went right down last season for many reasons. In my opinion it would be CRIMINAL to drop him after Saturday. McGowan's a talent apart on form, but at Raith he got 'lost' just as he did in the home game against Ayr, and IMO should have been subbed earlier.
mortonjag 2006-10-17 10:46:54
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 17 2006, 09:52 AM) [snapback]193265[/snapback]

I assume you're being Ironic, Loveless.

I also assume the opinions expressed by Keith O'Brien are his personal views, to which he is entitled. I agree with him on this occasion. But in general I'd say keep religion out of politics. And out of education too.....

How the hell can a man of such stature be so f*cking stupid then Alibi? He's got his own press agent and publicity staff. We don't exactly hear from him when he gets pissed off with celibacy and PERSONALLY would like a right good shag!
mortonjag 2006-10-17 10:52:55
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 17 2006, 10:50 AM) [snapback]193275[/snapback]

How can a non starter be dropped unsure.gif , McGowan got injured during the game rolleyes.gif

Bryan-I stand corrected, you naughty boy! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-17 11:05:07 Don't know what to think about the cup this year-it would be lovely to get a good run, but over the last few seasons we've struggled against 'minnows'.

In some ways, I'd rather see us get somebody that would guarantee a good crowd, some money, and-who knows?
mortonjag 2006-10-17 11:10:30
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 16 2006, 09:02 AM) [snapback]193015[/snapback]

New Zealand 37 Australia 37

8 minutes to go.

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

Is either of the Maisano's playing?
mortonjag 2006-10-17 12:03:48
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 17 2006, 11:23 AM) [snapback]193285[/snapback]

Which "minnows" have we struggled against? unsure.gif

I'll reply to your civilised post nacho, and ignore the 'rose tinted' brigade.

I'm sorry for the confusion, as I wasn't specifically referring to THIS cup-rather to our cup performances in general where we have undoubtedly not done ourselves credit.

Even the quoted Ayr, Partick, And Livi were hardly setting the heather on fire when we played them.
mortonjag 2006-10-17 12:06:56
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 17 2006, 11:33 AM) [snapback]193289[/snapback]

whit ? mortonjag, are you calling the Maisanos sissies ?
huh.gif huh.gif

No way-but you know how everything's BIG in Oz-I thought it might be soccer! wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-17 12:09:29
QUOTE(Patrick Bateman @ Oct 16 2006, 01:24 PM) [snapback]193092[/snapback]

I can't see it changing next week either. We should beat Stranraer at Cappielow, St Johnstone will hammer Queen of the South and Aston Villa will comfortably beat Fulham at Villa Park.

With that kind of knowledge PB, I guess the bookies have already made you a multi millionaire ! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-17 14:04:01
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 17 2006, 01:36 PM) [snapback]193312[/snapback]

Fair enough, although I don't think our cup record is terrible. It's about average for a club of our size, I'd say. We've beaten a First Division side already this season, for example. Losing away to Brechin was crap, however.

Yes, we were POSITIVELY brilliant against the real 'Saints'-well for much of the game!!! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-17 14:09:20
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 17 2006, 01:36 PM) [snapback]193311[/snapback]

The Cardinal, as leader of the Catholic Church in Scotland, gave his opinion on how he sees or would like to see Scotland develope.
He hasn't given instruction to Scotlands Catholics to go and support a particular political Party.
He is a leader,and simply done what leaders are supposed to do,give an opinions.
I welcome the Cardinals opinion,as for too long there has been an unwritten rule about Catholics voting Labour.

In openly stating that opinion Colkitto, he HAS given a lead.

I happen to agree with your sentiments about the logistics, but believe his public voicing of a private opinion was wrong.
mortonjag 2006-10-17 14:26:56
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 15 2006, 12:30 PM) [snapback]192627[/snapback]

laugh.gif

I wonder what "healthy growth" they're on about...

Not fingers by the look of it! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-23 12:58:34
QUOTE(Inver_Ton @ Oct 23 2006, 11:39 AM) [snapback]195577[/snapback]

Interesting to read in the sunday mail yesterday that Moore has came out and said that he is on his final warning and that no matter how good he is, he'll chuck him out of the team.

It all came about because he fouled a Brechin player and gave away a last minute penalty. Moore wasn't raging with the foul but because of his reaction to the ref that earned him a yellow card.

He fined him £50 too.

Would love to see him at Cappielow and i know i'm not alone.

Edited for link

http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/sport/football...-name_page.html

Devine would be a tremendous signing IMO-I don't know what's wrong up there, but against us he's always looked composed. He's a natural left footed player, and his distribution is excellent.

The fact is we don't have a left back, and meantime Deano is the best of the pick in that position.

Incidentally, it's funny how the rose tints are gradually coming off about 'super defender' Weatherson, who 'was, is, and always will be a striker'-great header on Saturday!! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-23 13:10:15 I don't know which player would be more offended by the picture of RYAN Stevenson, but for me the bigger laugh was directing disabled fans to Forfar FC for advice about next Saturday's Alloa game.

Mind you I don't recall seeing any proper facilities for disabled fans at either of those super stadia. !
mortonjag 2006-10-23 13:29:27
QUOTE(Vialli_No7 @ Oct 23 2006, 01:20 PM) [snapback]195636[/snapback]

Team playing well, unbeaten in the league and 9 points clear so Mortonjag has to resort to slagging Morton programme!

SHOCKER! rolleyes.gif

Not at all Vialli, even Mr McInally was admitting in the programme that we're not yet streetwise, and on Saturday we proved it yet again.

We were brilliant for a while, and then, as usual, stepped off the gas and made it hard on ourselves.


WELL-you started it! sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-23 13:44:44 I take it the 'Man in the street' will now be referred to as a 'Street Person'.

Many of those can be seen of an evening in the Anderston area of the city, touting for business from dirty old people.
mortonjag 2006-10-23 13:53:48 Slight digression, but I thought the ref-Crawford Allan-had a good game on Saturday. At first it seemed like he was going to do a 'Freeland' but the Stranraer boys wouldn't toe the line, and he stuck his ground. I think Gerry Britton may have had a word at half time, as they 'cooled the beans' a wee bit in the second period.

PS Sorry to say something positive! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-23 14:11:53 What are you lot talking about-Moore's 'A good egg who gets on with all supporters, home and away'.

Don't bother arguing-it was in the OFFICIAL match programme on Saturday! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-23 14:23:37 I don't know about Inverclyde, but where I live in Glasgow, they're setting off fireworks every single night, in the middle of a landscaped garden area which is surrounded by modern flats.

Last night at 9.45 I looked out to see an Asian man with a woman and wee girl, both dressed in their traditional garb. They had obviously been responsible for the loud explosions which were disturbing my 'tele' gazing.

He let the wee soul (she was no more than four or five), light the fuse on an obviously very expensive rocket, and they all moved back as he TOOK PHOTOS of the display.

I was tempted to go out and explain a wee bit about our customs, but suspected I'd probably get lifted.
mortonjag 2006-10-23 14:32:32
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Oct 23 2006, 02:27 PM) [snapback]195660[/snapback]

I was on the drink in Largs last night but although intoxicated, I swear I walked into somebody's garage and discovered some sort of pie factory or something. If I remember correctly I bought 2 steak pastries.



Did I imagine this or does the place really exist??

CC that sounds like an excellent intro to a mystery novel!--Follow with something like-today when I sobered up my wallet was gone-and -----!! smile.gif

mortonjag 2006-10-23 14:36:38 1/ Mrs Abramovic
2/ Mrs Abramovic
3/ Mrs Abramovic

Radix malorum cupiditas est! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-23 14:37:52
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Oct 23 2006, 02:36 PM) [snapback]195665[/snapback]

Nothing quite as exciting, but I did waken up in a house up Braeside and had no idea how to get home from there? Think we'll need to forget about the novel for the time being...



I have a feeling my pastries are going to resurface sometime soon... sad.gif

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mortonjag 2006-10-23 14:40:12 Jimbo's just turned 20, and as far as I know is still very much a home bird.

I don't think he'd knock back a move but can't see him shifting his digs to the back end of beyond.
mortonjag 2006-10-23 14:49:38
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Oct 23 2006, 02:10 PM) [snapback]195652[/snapback]

What are you on about. When I think on Jim McInally I think Dundee Utd, he spent almost 10 years there in which time he was part of a team that got to the UEFA Cup final and one that won the Scottish Cup. He also still stays in the area.

McInally has much stronger links with Tannadice than Cappielow though he is a Glasgwegian.

Even if he was offered the job up there though, I guess he'd be a mug to take it. It seems to me no more than a poisened chalice as long as the Grocer's in charge.
mortonjag 2006-10-23 14:58:52
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 23 2006, 02:55 PM) [snapback]195679[/snapback]

maybe we should go the extra mile and refer to it as a "woman hole cover". On second thoughts, maybe not.

Are you still allowed to say 'Hole' I think it's pretty demeaning-much prefer c*nt !!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-23 15:02:55
QUOTE(Edinton @ Oct 23 2006, 02:58 PM) [snapback]195680[/snapback]

"I miss" not being "able to read Dougie's programme "notes". Did "he" slag any of our "players" off this "week" or use any "unnecessary puncuation"?

He wasn't too bad but in his 'report' on the Raith game he described their big striker as- 'the one and only ONE'. Needless to say I pissed myself laughing for hours at that ONE.
mortonjag 2006-10-23 15:16:59
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Oct 23 2006, 03:09 PM) [snapback]195694[/snapback]

If in doubt
punch it out

-but he DIDN'T punch it out-it looked a safe ball and he punched it straight to a Stranraer player. Davie doesn't normally resort to fisticuffs but maybe he's been taking tips while understudying Stef. sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-23 15:45:13
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Oct 23 2006, 03:25 PM) [snapback]195711[/snapback]

I don't even recall the incident everyone is referring to , it's therefore inappropriate for me to comment , however , generally speaking , and as I am talking from experiance being an ex-goalkpeer myself , I found punching the ball clear to be the most sensible policy when there is even the slightest potential danger to not being able collect comfortably. European goalie's punch the ball a lot more regualrly than their British counterparts.

'Punching the ball clear' is the operative phrase, and you are right. I remember Erik Sorensen sometimes punched it to well over the half way line, but the point is that on saturday Davie inexplicably went up for a relatively safe ball and at the last minute decided to punch. If he'd made the decision earlier I'm sure he'd have put it safely into touch, and it was very unlike him.
mortonjag 2006-10-23 15:46:56
QUOTE(ianton @ Oct 23 2006, 03:43 PM) [snapback]195719[/snapback]

some people are easly amused laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Some people can't spot 'tongue in cheek'! laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-23 15:49:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 23 2006, 03:31 AM) [snapback]195511[/snapback]

so, does no one understand what McInally was saying ?

I think maybe he's referring to the impending Scottish Cup Final at Hampden against Gretna! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-23 15:57:59
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Oct 23 2006, 03:06 PM) [snapback]195688[/snapback]

I cannot, on principal, participate in any form of recreation that treats women as commodities. mad.gif

But some are very commodious Tom! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-23 16:00:41 Read otherwise-'Mileson ups bung to Gretna councillors' ! mad.gif

Saw that one coming a mile away.
mortonjag 2006-10-23 16:14:40
QUOTE(theyorkshirepudding @ Oct 23 2006, 04:07 PM) [snapback]195731[/snapback]

I disagree. Jim has worked with Martin O'Neill, who has always thought long and hard about jobs he's been offered. O'Neill knows the grass isn't always greener and I'm sure he's told Jim that too - even when it involves what seems like a step up in class. He also turned down an emotional return to Forest, similar to Jim being offered a return to Tannadice.

I also think Jim has unfinished business at Morton and wants to get us into the First Division. He won't leave until he's done that.

Absolutely-why would he desert a squad that's playing itself into division one for one that's playing itself out of the SPL?
mortonjag 2006-10-23 16:25:05
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Oct 23 2006, 04:17 PM) [snapback]195738[/snapback]

Maybe because Dundee United have far more resources and a far better chance of coming back up from the 1st Division if they do get relegated ?

That's certainly up for debate-if United are motoring, they've more potential than us, but Thomson is not a Mileson, let alone a Romanov or Abramovic, and his track record with managers is questionable.

I may not rate Jim very highly as a manager, but he does seem to have his head screwed on the right way.
mortonjag 2006-10-23 17:19:17
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Oct 23 2006, 05:01 PM) [snapback]195762[/snapback]

Mortonjag moaning!

Saw that one coming a mile away! wink.gif

Good for you!

Do you think I'm wrong? smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-23 17:26:52 Boozehound-you are just a neo Luddite, but on this occasion I applaud your iconoclasm! wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-23 17:30:12 More likely two ex-pat Skunks chatting on their way to work.
mortonjag 2006-10-23 17:35:12
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Oct 23 2006, 05:29 PM) [snapback]195768[/snapback]

2-0 up after 7 minutes, take the foot off the gas and coast to a comfortable win avoiding injuries and bookings in the process. How can I sum that performance up? I know, 'streetwise'. Muppet! tongue.gif

Oh well itchy baws-maybe that was your take, but it certainly wasn't mine nor that of most of the folks around me.

COASTED to a victory-aye right-we should have BURIED that lot before half time, and taken off three players, instead of 'avoiding injuries and bookings'.
'None so blind'! sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-10-25 14:05:21 Either we'll get beaten away this season or we won't. If we do, going on our past form, it's likely to come when we least expect it so let's not get too cocky about Saturday. Alloa have improved a lot since we scudded them at Scapa.
mortonjag 2006-11-04 12:39:22 Why was McGowan kept on so long when he was having an off day-ok Sanny missed two good chances but in the short time he was on he had their defence guessing?

Why were Millar and Stevenson not replaced, when they too didn't turn up. It's easy to blame our defence, but Alloa took their few chances well and Davie McGurn had a quiet day otherwise.
We lost it in midfield fairly early on-you can't blame players for off days, but this was another example of managerial inexperience.

Today I would have either Midge or Jamie on the bench, and give Kev a start, and I'd DEFINITELY keep wee Gowser off 'til at least half time.
mortonjag 2006-11-04 12:46:46 New broom at Blue Toon-probably a stuffy slog today-I hope not-anyhow I'm hoping for a clean sheet with goals from Del, and a midfielder (2-0)

















mortonjag 2006-11-04 12:54:05 Nobody seems to have mentioned the name of this lone 'Palestinian'-but it's been well publicised-seems more like a Tim trying to take the piss!!
mortonjag 2006-11-04 13:13:55 Doesn't matter what WE may think of the new management-the general rule is that a squad will try to impress, and I think the Mathers thing is a red herring: we'll get a hard game today, and don't be surprised if he plays a blinder.
mortonjag 2006-11-07 09:43:46 Why are you all so complacent?

We've conceded five goals in two weeks to crap teams, and twice McInally's left his substitutions too late IMO.

McGowan's only real contribution to the first half was his (? offside) goal-certainly well taken, but given how Temps played at Kircaldy, he should have been straight on at half time, if not from the kick off.

It's also interesting to see how some of you are finally accepting that Spoonsy's a goal scorer

I never rated Finlayson when he was forced to stay wide right, but when he's allowed to drift in (like he did at Stranraer) he's a menace, yet Jim persevered with the Millar/Stevenson show which clearly wasn't working, and was inept against Alloa.

One final point-David McGregor is either still unfit or should NEVER be at left back-he's yards slow of part timers, and he looked jaded and nervous. On one occasion late in the second half, Kev ran half the length of the pitch to cover for him.

Yet again on Saturday we were left biting our nails 'til the last couple of minutes and it's just not good enough. mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-11-10 09:14:30
QUOTE(thesmithston @ Nov 10 2006, 09:03 AM) [snapback]200675[/snapback]

had a month in scotland
a few observations...
tracksuits, hunners of them, milan, porto shellic rangers, silver, gold....

eastern european langauges all over the place.... must say it sounded better than the neds (ship them over to poland with their trackkies).. for all of those pc amongst you.. it would be better for the economy...

govt controlled press....
for three n half weeks the debate was about the muslim women wearing her burka/hajab at a school or meeting a polititian. this bioled over to many heated arguements withe parents...
for one day the free metro paper reported 655000 dead iraqis since the uk and usa invasion....
go figure.. nearly 4 weeks about a women wearing a hajb.... one day about 655000 dead iraqis as a result of the uk govt foreign policy!!!! heard blair was guest motivational speaker at murdochs group in usa.... scratch my back etc....

no wonder the rasicts on this forum have a field day....

You seem to have a huge chip on your wee lefty ?brown shoulder mate.

No way am I going to go to Oz for a couple of weeks and then start spouting off about things I don't understand.

When people object to a selfish, unilateral, arrogant undermining of their culture by factions who are happy to take from it-that's not racism-AND I KNOW ONE PLACE WHERE THEY WOULDN'T STAND A CHANCE COBBER.
mortonjag 2006-11-10 09:25:49
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Nov 10 2006, 09:15 AM) [snapback]200680[/snapback]

what a total dick.

Another highly intelligent and enlightening comment-by the way, where ARE you, Partick or Australia? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-11-10 09:29:40
QUOTE(ian clinging @ Nov 10 2006, 09:16 AM) [snapback]200681[/snapback]

feel he would be a good signing as back up for McGurn. Experienced keeper who has always impressed me.

No harm to Davie, but my guess is it would soon be the other way around.
mortonjag 2006-11-12 09:40:54 Good morning 78.08% who have total confidence in Mr McInally.

I'm sure you'll all be rushing to his defence again because I've dared to drag it up.

McInally is still in managerial nappies and WE-the fans are suffering.

Bryan and some others had a good laugh a few weeks back when I suggested that part time managers at this level can do a better job-well they CAN, and in the last three weeks Jim's been well and truly exposed by the two Alans. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-11-12 10:13:38
QUOTE(StewartyMac @ Nov 12 2006, 09:49 AM) [snapback]201429[/snapback]

Allan Moore is full-time with us.

I wasn't suggesting otherwise-and he deserves his wages-simply that our 'Manager' has everything going for him, yet every time the chips are down-against Peterhead in the playoffs for example, guys who don't have half his resources show him to be wanting.

Incidentally, what did you think of that ref yesterday? My take is that he was absolutely dire- most of his inexplicable decisions went against us-he then bottled out of sending off your niggly no. 8 near the end, and when he realised how enraged the Ton fans were, he red carded your poor number 10 for a fairly innocuous foul.
mortonjag 2006-11-15 19:59:55
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Nov 14 2006, 05:53 PM) [snapback]202171[/snapback]

Only a few weeks ago Morton were 9 points clear and the SPL managerial roundabout was in motion. On this board many a fan was clearly concerned that Jim McInally would leave for new pastures. Well I am glad he stayed. We will win this league, its a marathon not a sprint. Calm yourself ladies and gentlemen. Now is not the time to panic.

I have said from day one we will win this league IN SPITE of McInally, and his ridiculous attempt at management against Stirling bears that out.

We will win only because of the superiority of our squad, and DESPITE the fact that McInally would be better employed picking names out of a hat-at least then some players might end up in their natural positions.

I honestly don't give a flying f*ck if we get beaten when we're firing on all cylinders-THAT IS football-and when it happens you have to accept it, but it breaks my heart to see such total ineptitude and lack of managerial imagination.

As long as we're top of this league you blind 75% will still doff your caps to a man with no managerial ability, but mark my words, unless Dougie Rae finds us a wee fortune somewhere Jim's going to get found out next season
mortonjag 2006-11-17 11:00:31 I'm replying to the last few posts here.

To quote McInally's 'tactics' against Peterhead as proving his ability just tells me more about you lot.

WHAT about his tactics against Alloa and Stirling, or do you only attend home matches.

I have absolutely nothing personal against him, but I'll tell you this-if I pay good money for something and get second best, I'm entitled to be angry.

TACTICS-he hasn't a clue IMO

TEAM SELECTION-he hasn't a clue IMO

Back to basics. Dick Campbell (Bryan's baldy pal) has just won FIRST division MOTM.

Guess who got ours-Alan Maitland, and next month it'll be Alan Moore.

All I'm saying is that Dougie Rae could have got far more for far less.

As far as I can see Jim can spot good young players, and his fitness training and coaching seem above reproach, but when it comes to getting us comfortably out of this s***hole of a division, he's repeatedly upstaged by guys with half his resources.

I'm not saying he should be sacked right now, but IMO after over 2.5 years he's learned f*ck all.

As for the fans suffering-any decent Ton supporter who didn't at Stirling must be a bloody masochist.
mortonjag 2006-11-17 18:01:06
QUOTE(1insert_player_here @ Nov 17 2006, 03:49 PM) [snapback]203062[/snapback]

What about his tactics against Raith, Stranraer, Peterhead, Alloa, Cowden, Forfar, Brechin, Raith, Stranraer, and in the 2nd half v Peterhead, or do you only attend matches we lose?

His tactics against Peterhead in the playoffs were outstanding-I've got to agree with you-how could I have so misunderstood the man-f*cksake-he's SO good I'm surprised he hasn't been headhunted already-oh yes-I forgot Brechin in the cup-AND Stranraer two seasons ago-ALL GAMES THAT MATTERED-and Alloa-what are you talking about, and Forfar away just before the end of 04-05-listen sonny boy, I go to every game-the man is as you stated, a tactical genius-ha f*ckin' ha! mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-11-18 11:13:28
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Nov 17 2006, 07:00 PM) [snapback]203136[/snapback]

Last season and for large parts of this season Partick fans have no time for DC. He was so good that last season he finished fourth in the league 13 points behind Morton, despite having a similar wages budget and full time players. He fluked it at the end through the play off lottery.

There have been four manager of the month competitions in the second division so far and Jim has won two of them. Do you expect him to win all the time?

Finally, the point has been made - the league is a marathon not a sprint and in a marathon we will comfortably beat any team in this league including Stirling. They will have a bad patch just like everyone else.

Plus, for what it is worth, for anyone who knows anything about football, it was clear that Saturday was a fluke result. The team with the best players lost because of two defensive mistakes. OK, we should not have made them but that happens and no manager can legislate for normally reliable players making mistakes. Craig Gordon is the best keeper in Scotland but threw Celtic's winner into the net. Does that make him a bad player?

Give us a break!

You're the 'money' man tonsilitis-of course Campbell took time to settle but he has managerial experience, and what he's now achieved is not the result of bags of extra cash.

Mixu was clearly cheated out of one of those other MOTM's-on actual performance (from a squad with far superior resourses) McInally has arguably deserved JUST ONE.

Your third point is wasted on me. I have repeatedly stated we will win this league-but IN SPITE of the manager.

Finally from someone who does know something about football, I presume the Alloa result was a similar 'fluke'!

Of course those things happen, and when they do, an experienced manager will often see early signs and rejig the team. McInally seems totally inept in that department, nor is there EVER any evidence of touchline motivation from him.

Back to that Stirling 'fluke'- aye right-golden boy McGregor-a snail- replaces Walker or Keenan and sells one of the goals. Finlayson deserves a place but Jim hasn't the imagination to drop Millar or Stevenson who haven't been firing in the last two games, so Kev goes in AS A STRIKER alongside the talented but inexperienced McGowan, leaving Del and Sanny on the bench. McAlister-as usual-works hard, but gets nowhere up the left wing, so master tactician waits til the eleventh hour to give wee Russell a run-he looks great but it's far too late. Tonsilitis-the man as I have said hasn't a clue.
mortonjag 2006-11-18 12:09:14 I've just read this thread for the first time and it's obvious that well over 70% of the posters think McInally's not up to it, so why, when we have a poll, do OVER 70% say they have total confidence in his ability?
mortonjag 2006-11-18 12:28:24 Players' form comes and goes. I'd say McGurn's been OK and he's far better than Stefan. Ryan's form's always been a yo yo. McGowan's not been nearly as bright. Davie McGregor's not played enough to assess, but he's never a left back and is slow.

Jamie Stevenson's great with dead balls but like Kevin Finlayson, who was a major factor in Stranraer's promotion, he's come here with shining credentials and not been that impressive.

In Stevenson's case, I'm convinced it's down to instructions-he's not allowed to play the free running commanding role he had at Alloa, and his game's suffering-but then we musn't call in question our superb management team, must we!
mortonjag 2006-11-18 13:55:40 I do NOT think McInally should be sacked if he's definitely 'got' the dressing room, but I have grave reservations about that.

If the players as a whole are happy with his experimentation (presumably this is because of his total lack of experience) and don't mind being consistently played out of position, never mind wondering if they'll be on the bench from one week to the next-FINE.

What I strongly resent is the intolerance of the vociferous, blinkered, and rose tinted specs brigade when any of us dare to criticise him.

I'd honestly go as far as to suggest that with all the resources at our disposal, ANY of the current div. 2 managers would be doing just as well, and a couple would definitely be more successful than Jim.
mortonjag 2006-11-18 14:18:08 It's pretty obvious we don't have a natural 'leader' in the whole squad, so this is a kind of pointless debate. Big Stu at least gives 100% consistently, but that's not what leadership's all about.

Hark back to the closed season when the older heads on this forum were crying out for an experienced midfield general-I think most of us kind of settled for 'second best' when Jamie came, as he's a great young talent, but as the season progresses, and McInally sits in the dugout scratching his head and arse at the same time while the boys operate on autopilot, the lack of ANY driving force at Scapa comes back to haunt us week in, week out.
mortonjag 2006-11-18 15:51:11 It depends whether you're looking at a potential promotion to the SPL next time around, or just consolidating to guarantee promotion.

If it's the latter, we DESPERATELY need an experienced motivator-doesn't have to be a midfielder, but that's usually best.

If we're seriously looking at next season already we need two full backs more than anything IMO. That, and a manager who could make proper use of the rest of the talent in the squad.
mortonjag 2006-11-18 16:09:16
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Nov 18 2006, 03:23 PM) [snapback]203312[/snapback]

OK, we have reached common ground. I agree that we should be expecting to win every game in this league and that, by and large has been true. There have been no league games where we have not been favourites, even last week against Stirling. What is coming across though is that some fans, maybe not yourself, seem to think we should win every game which is different from expecting to win every game. A couple of defeats is enough to have calls for McInally's dismissal/resignation which this poster thinks is crap.

As for the 'fashionable' insult of linking a Morton fan with the Old Firm, its not intended as an insult. Its an observation that certain fans in expecting to win every game

1) Have unreasonable expectations of the team/management. No senior British team has ever won every game in a league programme.
2) Are disrespectful towards the rest of the league. At any point on a Saturday afternoon, there are 110 players playing in the second division. We only have 11 of them. It is not unreasonable that there are some good ones amongst the other 99.

Are 1) and 2) not the attitudes displayed by a majority of old firm fans in the SPL? If so, the comparison is valid.

One British team did go through a whole season losing only one game-AND they had NO OFFICIAL MANAGER-tonsilitis, you and I both know who that was, but Haldane Y Stewart at least could motivate players, and understood the value of a settled squad with his boys playing in their natural positions
mortonjag 2006-11-18 16:26:55
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Nov 18 2006, 04:15 PM) [snapback]203323[/snapback]

fair enough, i don't have an old firm mentality then. phew.

although i don't exactly respect the other teams in this league, simply because i am totally sick of seeing them. i never, ever thought i'd ever say this, but i can't bloody wait for the chance to go to mcdiarmid park for a league game.

the second division is crap for entertainment, you can't deny it.

Not just entertainment-CRAP full stop. We have to travel to Ayr for our nearest away game, the facilities at most of the grounds are non existent, and everybody wants to beat us (because they see us as the 'OF' of the second division) usually not by playing constructive or attractive football.

I've said before that we'd probably be in the top three or four in division 1 even with the present squad, just because they'd try to play football instead of resorting to spoiling tactics, and/or trying to kick us off the park.
mortonjag 2006-11-28 10:03:14 In last Saturday's match programme we were told that in the two week lay off we had beaten a strong Motherwell side, AND what was 'effectively Gretna's first team'.

If that is correct, it proves what I have been saying all season-namely that we are not lacking in ability at a higher level-so what goes wrong when we lose to scabby wee division 2 sides?

The truth is that we WILL win this league in spite of McInally. The man is absolutely inept in terms of tactics and team selection-and when the players need his direction and motivation he just isn't there.

They are young talented boys, but when the chips are down, they tend to run about like headless chickens-and Willowman-I haven't seen them play a decent game for several weeks-it's a f*cking shame.

If only we had signed an experienced holding midfielder, and Jim had honoured his promise to leave after the playoffs fiasco we'd be walking this league.

Anybody who claims to be enjoying the week in, week out struggle against lesser opposition wants his head looked.
mortonjag 2006-11-28 10:33:57
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Nov 27 2006, 10:40 AM) [snapback]205398[/snapback]

We should put Dean Keenan in the left back position. IMO he was great there when Macgregor was out injured and played a blinder away to Cowdenbeath. Alex Walker is also an option but I'd prefer Keenan. Also, Spoonsy is doing well enough at RB.

You remember that Iain, and so do I, but it seems to me that players at Scapa are picked for more than ability. McGregor has been a faithful servant but he's yards slow, and right footed, yet master tactician Jim whom we're not allowed to criticise flings him straight in the minute he's supposed to be fit. Even Alex Walker-who quite frankly is capable of playing better than Millar and Stevenson have lately in midfield- was doing a better job out of position.
mortonjag 2006-11-28 15:51:52
QUOTE(StenhousemuirBuddie @ Nov 28 2006, 03:26 PM) [snapback]205978[/snapback]

I believe that you have a very experienced ex SPL player training with you at the moment. he has played in excess of 200 games in the SPL.

Next you'll be telling us it's Andy Millen ! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-11-28 16:04:18
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Nov 28 2006, 12:30 PM) [snapback]205860[/snapback]

Every team has some sort of slump at some point in the season. Best to have it out of the way in November (when we're playing poor but still winning most of the time*) rather than have it creeping up on us in March/April when it really matters.

*a fact that escapes some of the McInally haters on here.

Winning most of the time-c'mon man we've lost two of the last four-Cowdenbeath well deserved a draw- and we made it VERY hard on ourselves against the Blue Toon.

Incidentally, while we're on FACTS, being critical of a man's glaring faults doesn't necessarily mean you hate him.
mortonjag 2006-11-28 16:18:14 I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned the effect of Hannah and Lennon on Saturday's game.

It may well have been an entertaining spectacle for neutrals, but I just found it heartbreaking to watch our kids yet again 'psyched out' by old heads.

Many of us were pleading all summer for some experience and motivation, but all we got was a wean on loan and a skilful but so far disappointing youngster.

Week after week we are let down, not by lack of skill, but by sheer naivety, and lack of experience, and the management seem totally incapable of addressing it.
mortonjag 2006-11-29 14:14:06
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Nov 28 2006, 04:10 PM) [snapback]206004[/snapback]

Cowdenbeath may very well have deserved a draw, but we still got the 3 points. That's the only thing that matters.

Oh, and it's one thing being critical of a man's glaring faults (perfectly acceptable, if it's constructive). It's another thing when most, if not all, of your posts find some way of having a dig at McInally and his inexperience as a manager.

I have said before that some people don't understand the meaning of constructive versus destructive criticism, and you appear to be a good example.

My very point is that I do NOT dislike Jim, nor do I attempt to undermine him in any way as a fellow human being.

That, however, will not, nor will your or anyone elses opinion deter me from stating that I think the squad would perform much better with a more experienced manager. Given that I have the interests of GMFC at heart, and not those of any individual, I regard that as constructive.

Finally, though I agree that I have repeatedly 'had a dig' at Jim, it is ludicrous that you suggest that most, IF NOT ALL, of my (over 2000) posts are about him, and it interests me immensely to see the tide gradually turn, as more and more posters have the courage to say how THEY really feel about the management.
mortonjag 2006-11-29 14:26:15 No harm to Davie McGurn, who's better than some give him credit for, but Mathers is our most sensible acquisition in ages-maybe Jim has finally realised you can't put old heads on young shoulders.

I predict that he will now be an ever present for us-signing in January-and won't even be surprised to see him take on the Captain's role in due course.
mortonjag 2006-11-29 15:07:09
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Nov 29 2006, 02:37 PM) [snapback]206440[/snapback]

Mathers,Mathers,Mathers,Mathers,Mathers, I cant believe we just signed Mathers, he has broken our hearts on a number of accassions but surely to god we cant just bring a guy in and drop our first choice keeper. I know for a fact if I was McGurn my teddy would be getting vollied about the managers office right now. Experience, fine but to just drop the first choice keeper aint wise or tactful, should have just shot McGurn it would be less painful.

Good to see the club being loyal, "any chance of a transfer boss" said the very disgruntled young goal keeper.

As Bryan said, 'That's football'. We're VERY weak on goalkeepers, and it's a great move. There's no point in signing a boy of his experience, and waiting for Davie McGurn to let us down.

By the same token, Davie's a competent lad, and he knows he'll be back in there if Paul doesn't turn it on. We need competition for places in the squad-not automatic selection week in, week out.

No time like the present-WELL DONE JIM McINALLY.
mortonjag 2006-11-29 15:25:14
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Nov 26 2006, 09:47 PM) [snapback]205308[/snapback]

I've never been a fan of McGregor and he's even worse now than he was three years ago. Release him after his current contract expires.

Jim McAlister is another who must buck up his ideas. I'm still waiting on his season to start.

Looked great pre-season but has been largely anonymous since. The most over-rated player I've ever seen in a Morton jersey.

You're seeing McAlister exactly the same way as I saw Finlayson last season Bob, and the reason is that neither has been allowed into his natural role.

I thought Kev looked really good against Peterhead, and fully expected him to replace (off form) Millar or Stevenson in midfield at Stirling-so he got played UP FRONT BESIDE McGOWAN-and ended back on the bench.

You can't fault McAlister in general, but the poor boy's never going to be a left winger !!!
mortonjag 2006-11-29 15:28:32
QUOTE(Bryan @ Nov 29 2006, 03:14 PM) [snapback]206456[/snapback]

Remember the day and time you seen this landmark praise tongue.gif

Well it's never TOO late Bryan, and I will give Jim credit if I think it's deserved ! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-11-29 15:37:21
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Nov 29 2006, 11:11 AM) [snapback]206366[/snapback]

I hope I can make you change your mind there.
Correct, which is why the science staff of my school contains catholics, agnostics and protestants.

WHAT-NO ATHEISTS-F*CKING DISCRIMINATION IF YOU ASK ME!
mortonjag 2006-11-29 15:39:39
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Nov 29 2006, 03:34 PM) [snapback]206463[/snapback]

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif Don't let Willowman see that!! wink.gif

I know-he's REALLY got it in for Jim rolleyes.gif !!!
mortonjag 2006-11-29 15:50:58 I'm getting a bit tired of hearing the names of promising young players whom our fans want to sign, or whom 'Jim might be interested in'. We have plenty of young talent at Div. 2 level.

Our lack of experience and 'street wisdom' are our 'Achilles heel'.

I'm delighted with the signing of Paul Mathers-if we can get a seasoned holding midfielder as well, those two alone will make a huge difference.

Once we get promoted we'll definitely need additions, but, please, no more kiddies right now.
mortonjag 2006-11-29 15:57:50
QUOTE(Bryan @ Nov 29 2006, 03:50 PM) [snapback]206473[/snapback]

mmmm indeed-but we haven't just suddenly needed them 'right now' Jim-get that holding midfielder asap, and you'll go up another 100% in my estimation.
mortonjag 2006-11-29 16:06:49
QUOTE(Bryan @ Nov 29 2006, 04:00 PM) [snapback]206481[/snapback]

you may have to wait till new year though.

I realise that Bryan, and hopefully it will happen this time. Our boys are streets ahead of the pack in this division in terms of ability-if they can just get a calming influence at times, and motivation at others, we'll streak ahead again, and win promotion comfortably.
mortonjag 2006-11-29 16:11:57
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Nov 29 2006, 04:01 PM) [snapback]206482[/snapback]

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Scotty has been doing a great job this season, one of our most consistent players. He was the only player (in the starting 11) that stood out for me on Saturday. Like someone said on another thread, if Stevenson was to play through the middle and Millar on the right, we'd have the best midfield in the league by a country mile.

Iain-you're TOTALLY missing the point-when those three play to form they ARE the best midfield in this league, but none has experience or is capable of motivating the others.

Many a time I've been on the way home and discussing the MOTM, and only then realised just how much work Scott does put in, but he's not exactly a leader of men.
mortonjag 2006-11-29 16:21:13
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Nov 29 2006, 04:15 PM) [snapback]206490[/snapback]

I get what you are saying. But if we were to bring in an experienced holding midfielder, who would we drop? I can't see any of our regular midfielders being dropped if some-one new was to come in and I certainly wouldn't drop any of them.

Iain-it's only a case of getting your mind round it-like the Mathers/McGurn thing-it's what's best for the squad as a whole that matters-we need experience and consolidation, and it's got to come from somewhere-and to the previous poster-of course it doesn't HAVE to be a midfielder, but that's the boilerhouse and traditionally direction comes best from there.

I wouldn't mind if it was a left or right back at the moment as long as we got the right man.
mortonjag 2006-11-30 09:21:06
QUOTE(Lindberg6 @ Nov 30 2006, 09:01 AM) [snapback]206757[/snapback]

I take everyone's points about Mathers adding experience and benefiting McGurn etc but was this really a priority as the area of the team to strenthen?

We obviously don't have a limitless pool of funds and if signing Mathers means we are now more limited in the outfield players we can bring in January then I don't think it has been a great move.

Jim identified experience as an issue at the end of last season but is only now getting round to adding that experience after signing the 'highly experienced' Stevenson and McGowan!!!

For me the full back positions and central midfield is where we need strengthened in a bit of a hurry.....not goalkeeper.

I appreciate the comments re McGurns communication and organisation etc - but does our captain not also play centre half??? You just had to look at the way Hannah organised and talked the Cowdenbeath defence through that game on Saturday to realise that is what we miss from our 'captain'. While Greacen has more good games than bad games I don't think him or Harding have helped McGurn - neither of them want to take any responsibility imho and are constantly wanting Mcgurn to come out and clear things.....they should know by now that is not his game and should actually take a bit of responsibility for themselves.

I guess what I'm saying is that I agree Mathers is a good addition to the squad but I do feel McGurn can consider himself very unlucky to be out of the team given some of the performances from other people week in, week out. I wouldn't like to think singing a goalkeeper is at the expense of a midfielder or full back.

I agree in general, but given Mathers' availability with no strings attached 'til January, and the shakiness of the squad right now, I don't think we can fault the management. It's the first proactive move to address our problems, and in the longer term we needed to strengthen our goalkeeping pool anyway.

I know our goalscoring form has been erratic (McGowan HAS to be played for some reason in every game), but it's been stupid defensive gaffes against Alloa, Peterhead, and Stirling which have exposed us most.

I think McGurn is much better than some people credit him with, but he, Greacen, and Harding STILL don't understand each other.

I'm certain Mathers will get that sorted very soon.
mortonjag 2006-11-30 18:12:12 Just for fun-and to let the rest of you 'get it right up me'-

Mathers


Finlayson Harding Greacen Keenan



Millar Stevenson McLaughlin Russell


Templeman Weatherson


Before you all start shouting-every single one of those guys has shown competence in the areas I've selected them for. Kev deserves a place again, and probably right back is the best option at the moment. Keenan was MOTM at Beath at no 3. Russell was superb against Stirling, and we need a winger, and Spoonsy was, is, and always will be a striker!

As for the subs-does it really matter?-that team will be 6-0 up at half time against anybody in div 2 ! wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-01 09:52:06 Deuchar's request says plenty to me. He's an intelligent guy with an established career elsewhere-he doesn't NEED more money, but he's pissed off not getting a full time slot-AT FIRST DIVISION LEVEL.

If I felt we needed a big barging poacher right now he'd certainly be the ideal choice in the shorter term, but we clearly don't-our current goalscorers are more than capable of rattling them in when we get the rest sorted.
mortonjag 2006-12-01 10:08:10
QUOTE(Bryan @ Nov 29 2006, 03:53 PM) [snapback]206475[/snapback]

I think more experienced signings are being targeted, however as we need this why are two of our most experinced guys on the bench?

When I talked about 'experience' Bryan I should have qualified it. Experience per se is not what we need-it's the ability to transfer your skills to the youngsters-sometimes pat their heads when they're down, but also kick their arses when they need it-and only a small percentage of experienced boys have that quality.

Mathers, I think, will have some influence in that respect-certainly with the defence, but for three seasons the need for one of those 'midfield generals' has been sticking out a mile.

I'm not going to criticise at this stage, but FFS let's continue the good work started with Paul's signing, and focus on WHAT WE NEED, instead of what 'might be a good idea'.
mortonjag 2006-12-01 10:20:34
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Nov 30 2006, 01:51 PM) [snapback]206825[/snapback]

I think it's a very interesting signing. I don't have a problem with McGurn, he's a solid enough keeper for 2nd Division level, but it will be interesting to see if bringing in such an experienced guy will have an influence on a defence that has been starting to fall apart a bit recently.

I've never really noticed if Mathers is very vocal, but I assume the ability to organise the guys in front of him has been the main reason for bringing him in. No matter what it's a good signing, we now have 2 solid keepers on our books.

I've watched Mathers a few times-he's certainly not slow to tell the rest what he thinks if they f*ck up, and it's also significant that he was assistant to Stewart at Peterhead. Despite ultimately falling from favour, he didn't get that job for nothing.

Best of all, I remember him against us in the first play-off-he made several excellent saves-but what impressed (well sickened) me most, was his self belief-and it clearly rubbed off on the defence. A really wise signing IMO.
mortonjag 2006-12-01 10:35:55
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Nov 30 2006, 04:44 PM) [snapback]206864[/snapback]

I do think Harding has delusions of being Koeman or Baresi but is more like Konterman. Central defenders should do what it says on the tin DEFEND.These aimless balls also cause derision for Lilley who is supposed to get on the end of these ,lottery balls. If the oppositon pick up possession we are back defending . I think Greacan is the more dominant defender and on Saturday he was coming across to clear high balls with Harding standing redundant . I don't know whether that is their understanding but if the ball is coming closer to Harding would it not be better for the nearest man to defend and the other cover. What we are not privy to us what they are told by McInally .
Again it is JM reluctance to change when thinks aren't working on match days . Are they showing more understanding at training or does JM not see this as a problem .
They are a consistant presence in the team at the back so they should be gelling better as the season progresses . If they are not doing so is it then the players or the manager who should come in for the most criticism.

I think that in terms of natural talent, Ryan's well ahead of big Stu, but he's not a confident lad and needs to be alongside somebody who can play to his advantages, and teach him the game.

Big Stu sees the ball early-it's always 'his ball' -in my opinion, he's the one who doesn't read the game, and time after time the two of them end up all over the place.

The point about the midfield not looking for the ball is also valid, and sometimes Ryan tries to be far too clever, holding the ball and waiting for an available pass, and makes an arse of it, but that doesn't make him a bad player.

As far as his long ball distribution is concerned, again he can be erratic, often out of frustration I sense, but he can also land a ball on a sixpence up either wing.

Wouldn't it be wonderful for him if we HAD a winger-or even two !!!
mortonjag 2006-12-01 11:17:28
QUOTE(gorkir @ Dec 1 2006, 10:30 AM) [snapback]207107[/snapback]

I've seen Morton in many coloured strips - some good and some awful
some were hoops, stripes, pyramids, diagonal stripe, arsenal type top, tartan and just plain
and they came in many colours blue white red green yellow orange and i think the arsenal type was red sleeves with a horrible coloured body
anyway who cares its Morton we support not the strip

I agree-one of the best sides I watched played for a while (under Hal Stewart) in fluorescent tangerine! Hal was full of ideas, and I think the Ton were the first British side to officially sport a fluorescent strip.

Ideally blue and white hoops, though.
mortonjag 2006-12-01 11:31:17
QUOTE(K P Low @ Nov 27 2006, 07:52 PM) [snapback]205616[/snapback]

McLaughlin
Templeman
Weatherson
McGurn
Millar
Stevenson
McGowen
Lilley
Greacen
Harding
McAllister
Finlayson
Keenan
Walker
MacGregor
Gonet
The Ball Boys
The Floodlights
The cheerleaders
The toaster
McInally

I thought that was a bit cruel at first, but then the toaster does do its job efficiently, and knows how to handle hot situations. smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-01 11:49:29 I've always been a fan of Jim since I saw him playing three seasons ago for our reserves in the old 'inside right' position.

The boy has undoubted talent, superb fitness, and a great attitude, yet despite attracting attention from other clubs, he's clearly been falling from grace with many of the fans at Scapa.

The reason- well it's so bloody obvious-he's just another who has to play where he's told, instead of where he's best.

I was having a laugh at the GMFC web site squad lists. Weatherson's position is officially described as 'ANYWHERE'-watch out Paul Mathers-but I guess that could apply to the whole squad right now.

Anyway-the point of my post-Ryan Russell came on for the last quarter of the Stirling game, and IMO played a blinder. Surprise, surprise he hasn't re-appeared, and HE'S EVEN LISTED as a left winger.

But, you might say, he's only a kid-well McAlisters less than a year and a half older, so what's the problem?
mortonjag 2006-12-01 12:23:47
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Nov 29 2006, 05:00 PM) [snapback]206495[/snapback]

It is I, Le Dong.

I'm selling my old car. Maybe you don't need one, but you might know of someone who does!

Peugeot 406 1.8LX S Reg Saloon,
Metallic red, good condition
Average mileage
Mot and Tax Till Feb 2007
Fantastic runner, work just done on it recently,
new car forces sale, it will be missed!

£800 or nearest offer.

PM me or show interest here, I'll get back to ya.

Sorry to Nacho if this is bad and not allowed here.

Poor photo of it, don't do it justice, but here's a taster:

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Get this weekend's Autotrader and see what others are asking for similar. Then get it Mot'd and shove it in for a bit less-they'll also discount the cost if you're selling for less than a grand, and you'll immediately reach your biggest potential market, (both in the mag for one week and on line for two).
mortonjag 2006-12-01 12:40:18
QUOTE(se65an @ Dec 1 2006, 12:32 PM) [snapback]207143[/snapback]

During a short stay in hospital this week, I had a lumber puncture performed. This was carried out by a Junior Doctor, and by feck it was the most painful thing I have ever had done, git took 5 times and failed it before a senior doc was called for.

Think I'll be on my back for a week!!!!
Anyone else had this done?

Anyway next time I hear that word am running for miles even if I have lost 2 legs.

It can be pretty painful, but the worst thing is usually severe headache after the procedure, and which can last for quite a while.
mortonjag 2006-12-01 16:16:42
QUOTE(Alibi @ Dec 1 2006, 01:30 PM) [snapback]207168[/snapback]

I don't think we ARE that great up front. We don't have any strikers in the top scorers. Temps is doing well considering he rarely gets a start, and Paul McGowan is on 6 I think, but our goals this season are coming from other areas of the team - like Spoonsy. Lilley's been average when I've seen him. We could use a decent striker.

Having said that, I don't think Deuchar's THAT good. Too slow for a start. I think we should hold out for Ronaldhino.

FFS Alibi-what age are you-that's the type of cack we've been getting all season from the weans and the brain damaged-STRIKER-STRIKER-all we need's a STRIKER.

Seriously-remember George Anderson-he scored nine or ten goals in one season from centre half-WHY-because big Andy Ritchie was bouncing them in off his head.

How can you possibly expect goals from ANYBODY if there's no supply-we've NO wingers and NO decent cross balls for example, and we've gone several games now since the opposing goalie was even busy. It's been ages since I saw a decent 'through' ball.

Just an aside-wee McGowan's been off form for weeks, but is still being allowed to keep others out of this wonderful team we're 'building', despite only being here on loan.
mortonjag 2006-12-01 16:23:39
QUOTE(Cawston @ Dec 1 2006, 02:39 PM) [snapback]207195[/snapback]

Personally I think this is why JM likes McGregor and will persist with him, he's one of the few capable of linking between defence and midfield. IMO with McGregor and Harding in the team there's less chance of lumping the ball route 1 as they'll always look for the pass first.

Maybe JM thinks that more than compensates for some of DM's defensive frailties.

As said before an experienced midfielder with a bit of influence will be the making of this team. Much more important than getting a left back.

I agree with that-in the past I've been impressed by Davie's distribution, and he still always tries to find a man, but this season he's been slow, nervous, and constantly making unforced errors. Either the boy is still not fit, or he's already more than found his level.

Anyhow, the point is that he should not be playing at left back at the moment when others have shown they can do better.
mortonjag 2006-12-01 16:32:54
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Dec 1 2006, 04:20 PM) [snapback]207227[/snapback]

Hmm, ok I might MOT it then, thanks Sean. Well, I was thinking that mileage average for most people is 10,000 a year, and it's ten years old, so I'm just over 100,000 miles.

New car is Fiat Grande Punto 1.3D Multijet 90bhp Sports Dynamic in New Orleans Blue. 'Tis nice! Diesel is helping with my journey to workeach day.

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDIf it's a decent enough motor Dong-the biggest struggle is coaxing people to come and see it-that's three quarters of the battle. You can put up to 3 photos in Autotrader-take them after washing the car and in the best light/from the best angles. Even think of paying £20 to get a mini valet, and seven or eight quid on new mats. You're not cheating anybody by making it look as good as possible, and an extra fifty or sixty quid's well worth it if it gets rid of a beastie you no longer need.
mortonjag 2006-12-01 21:56:48
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Dec 1 2006, 04:35 PM) [snapback]207234[/snapback]

Cheers!

It's not as though I'm struggling though - I've just really started trying to sell it.

It's had a FULL valet mate, £40....it's immaculate inside! smile.gif

Good luck !
mortonjag 2006-12-02 10:24:25
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 1 2006, 11:35 PM) [snapback]207335[/snapback]

Bet we sign him...

Bryan-stop your nonsense-how much would he cost AND how much would he want-get us that 'main man' to drive the team on and you'll see plenty of goals.

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mortonjag 2006-12-02 10:28:56 Although I always want the Ton to win, I invariably applaud really good play. The trouble is that it's few and far between in this division. I would also say that I have OCCASIONALLY gone home from a match we've lost, and still felt OK because we had played out of our skins and been fairly beaten-mind you that's not happened for a while either!
mortonjag 2006-12-02 10:41:59 McGowan's got that wee bit extra, and I've no doubt he'll cut it at a higher level, but his form has dipped, and he's been very frustrating to watch recently. Given that, and the fact he's keeping others out of the side, how do his fellow players feel?

I've no doubt Deuchar would score gaols if he came here, but WE DO NOT NEED ANOTHER STRIKER, we just need to get ourselves organised. The goalscoring ability's already there, but it needs utilised properly.
mortonjag 2006-12-02 10:44:38
QUOTE(se65an @ Dec 2 2006, 10:38 AM) [snapback]207392[/snapback]

Russell in my mind also played a belter, even though we got beat!!

Think its time to try him out again, hopefully Jim McInnally will bring him on today for the last 20mins or so.

Why the last 20 minutes-he can easily be subbed if he doesn't turn it on. It would do the boy's confidence a power of good as well.
mortonjag 2006-12-02 10:58:48 Forfar are pretty poor this season-they'll just try to spoil it-first to the ball, get man and ball, and lump it up the park stuff. We've seen this all before, and if we don't kill them off early, their confidence will grow.

Predictions-going on our recent form, that's a pointless exercise, but if we play AS WE SHOULD, 4-0.
mortonjag 2006-12-02 11:02:44
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Dec 2 2006, 10:46 AM) [snapback]207396[/snapback]

Subbing him if he plays s***e would do his confidence the power of good? blink.gif

Stop your nonsense-you pedant!
mortonjag 2006-12-02 11:03:56
QUOTE(se65an @ Dec 2 2006, 10:46 AM) [snapback]207397[/snapback]

Na, best to bring him on during play, not from the start, you'll scare the boy!!!

He didn't seem scared at Stirling when the heads were down, and he's not a boy-older than that wean from Cellic for a start!
mortonjag 2006-12-02 11:11:39
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Dec 2 2006, 12:49 AM) [snapback]207361[/snapback]

I know you said in your opinion but its a big exaggeration to say he played a blinder. He helped balance the team and received the ball a few times, was direct and put over 1 good cross and a couple of okay crosses, that was it. Definitely not a 'blinder'.

I wouldn't mind seeing him starting. Not particularly because I like him personally but I'd like to see more balance in the team and I think a left footed player on the left hand side of the pitch would be a big help. I'd also like to see Jim given a chance on the right.

Maybe I sound too enthusiastic, but when the heads are down, the team looks beaten, and you bring on a 'boy' from the reserves who immediately adds inspiration, and no small skill, he deserves praise. My point is that he CAN use the left wing, and in the short time he was on it, produced more than we saw in the rest of the game. I just wish he'd been on for longer.
mortonjag 2006-12-02 18:19:59 I will not be held responsible for any comment-I merely want others' opinions.
mortonjag 2006-12-02 18:24:19
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Dec 2 2006, 06:13 PM) [snapback]207591[/snapback]

He played ok today! Hit the bar. I agreed last week he needed a rest, but today he was fine.

Nonsense-he showed his skill in the first fifteen minutes-the boy definitely has a future- then his inexperience for the remainder of the game-but as I've said before McInally has as much perception and tactical nous as a blind donkey.
mortonjag 2006-12-04 15:37:40
QUOTE(big B @ Dec 4 2006, 02:57 PM) [snapback]208244[/snapback]

Do you not think that D.D.F.R is trying to provoke a reaction from the fans so shaming the players and making them read this board and letting them know the their performance's are not good enough for the wage packet they are getting. And just letting them know that the fans are forking out hard earned money for games, merchandise etc and that the buck stops with them with their inept performances.

I really don't think the good man is that bright. Waverley's already made the point elsewhere that he's really the one to blame for his inept managerial appointments, but Dougie's taking the hump because he obviously thinks he's done nothing wrong.

I find it almost inconceivable that his fellow directors go along with his every whim, but that seems to be the case.

For a man who's successful at marketing confectionery, he seems totally blind to the reasons for our dropping gates----Dougie ----punters in ANY consumer area will only keep forking out if they feel they're getting something worth the money, and for much of this season, watching the Ton has been painful, even for us lifelong supporters. The guys WHO STILL ARE AT EVERY MATCH-HOME AND AWAY.

Wake up and smell the coffee man-you've made an arse of it again-get rid of McInally or you'll live to regret it.
mortonjag 2006-12-04 15:54:00
QUOTE(big B @ Dec 4 2006, 03:28 PM) [snapback]208254[/snapback]

Okay the people that are shouting about Jim McInally please answer these questions.

(1) Who would they want as manager (serious options)

(2) How are we going to entice them here

(3) How are we going to pay Jim and Martin off

(4) And do you think it will not disrupt the team the so late into the season.

My own thought's are we carry on as we are and I am 100% certain we will win the league as the team will come good again.

1/ Paul Mathers

2/ He's here

3/ As quickly as possible

4/ I'm certain that in their hearts many of the current squad are sick to death of the management.

In anticipation of the usual barrage of insults, Mathers may never have officially been a manager, but it's well known that Ian Stewart relied heavily on his support last season, when Peterhead upstaged us with a far inferior squad of part timers.

I'm not actually suggesting he should become our manager, but I honestly believe half the current division 2 bosses would make far better use of our resources than McInally has. Furthermore, I believe there are several others at division 1 level who would relish a chance at Cappielow.
mortonjag 2006-12-05 09:00:11
QUOTE(Marshall2oo6 @ Dec 5 2006, 03:53 AM) [snapback]208470[/snapback]

A agree with SOME of the comments a've read on this thread but others a don't agree with. A don't post on here but always read about peoples opinions. Fair enough Dougie maybe had a wee dig in the programme but the guys obviously frustrated the exact same as us, to many Morton "fans" forget what the guy has done for the club, most of these people who are on here critisising the chairman and some even using him as a scapegoat were the ones standing on the pitch at Recreation Park a few seasons ago wondering if it was the clubs last game. Think back to how you felt. Now we're sitting top of the 2nd Division with a squad with plenty of talent, a stadium we can actually be proud of and anyone who says their embarrassed by it now are lying because thats the way everyone felt back then. Far to many people have short memories, we're going through a bit of a rough patch just now but thats all it is, every team goes through them? I do agree with most of the other points but try n put things into prespective.

That's a decent post, Marshall. We're entitled to be proud of our chairman for having balls, and in a division 2 setting GMFC is in reasonably good shape all round.

What some of us feel though, is that Dougie's very personality is now a hindrance. He's opinionated, and clearly can't delegate. Every other Saturday I see him scurrying about carrying boxes of sweeties etc.-the man just HAS to be in charge of everything, and always 'knows best'.

That is why we got McInally-I firmly believe it-I'm not suggesting the chairman thought he was second best, but I DO believe he felt he would still be 'in control', given Jim's respectful, if not sycophantic personality.

Week in, week out, I and others are blaming Jim for bizarre team selections, but I REALLY wonder what goes on behind the scenes.

I hate Mileson's idiocy in terms of Gretna's long term viability, but Dougie would do well to take a leaf out of his book when it comes to delegation.

mortonjag 2006-12-05 09:23:21
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Dec 5 2006, 09:03 AM) [snapback]208483[/snapback]

Serious question. Or two. Why do you as a Morton fan expect the chairman to continuously bail the club out? ( I know we're no exception there!) Are you prepared to pay enough to see football at this level (or higher) continue? I think DDR has stated he is willing to give it a go for a certain period of time,which is fair enough but what happens next? Another Shug? In reply to another post along similar lines a while ago I pointed out that the club debt could be wiped out by the hardcore supporters investing £300 or so each. The response? Total silence. If you lot won't put your money where your mouth is why do you expect anyone else to? I know some of you will respond with "But I'm a season ticket holder,I buy a pie and a Bovril every time I go to Cappielow,etc" but the bottom line is that still means the clubs and the fans ambitions are restricted by the finances. And as for those who bemoan the performance on the park,well we all do that but that's fitba! One week heaven the next week s***e!

I've posted this not to have a pop at people but hopefully to get people thinking a bit differently about the club.

To take your points separately:

1/ Douglas Rae is in this for HIMSELF and the Morton supporters. HE believed we would already be in Division 1 and hopefully self sufficient----profitable even.
It is Douglas Rae who has selected his managers and staff, and it is Douglas Rae, therefore, who has ultimately failed himself AND us.

2/ How long he is willing to bail us out is anybody's guess-I sometimes wonder if he really knows himself-but if he did go now, no way do we suddenly revert to a Scott scenario, which leads to your next point.

3/ I and many others I have spoken to would be happy to invest a reasonable amount to protect the club's future, but none of us would just chuck hard earned cash at the club in it's present form-effectively an autocracy.

4/ As to the performances on the park-that's NOT fitba' in my opinion-it's a potentially well oiled machine regularly misfiring because it's owner employs the wrong mechanics, and tinkers himself.
mortonjag 2006-12-05 10:00:29
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 4 2006, 05:32 PM) [snapback]208317[/snapback]

The guys who want McInally's head want to take a reality check or, in some cases, grow up.

We are top of the league and thats where we will be at the end of this season. If we sack the manager who has put us there we will be the laughing stock of Scottish football. We have decent players at this club, probably as good fulltimers as can be attracted to the second division. On Saturday we were hit by a freak result, having played well in all respects except actually getting the ball in the net and that was as much bad luck as bad play.

Cowboy lost the dressing room and had to go. If he could not control certain players - wee neds like Alex Williams - he should not be a manager and he more than anything else blew our lead. I don't get the same sense of Jim McInally. He is in control and players are disciplined. There is an inclination to panic when up against it from some of them and for that reason we need an experienced head in the team to hold it all together. Thats what I would want come the window and I suspect we will get it.

As for those who just moan continuously, to be honest, I get sick of reading it and I wonder if the club would not be better off if you went to Ibrox or Parkhead instead of Cappielow. Your attitude will fit right in there. For those who criticise the team without even being there to see what goes on, grow up.

Finally, my season ticket spot is just behind the right hand side of the director's box as viewed from the cowshed and I can assure those who think otherwise that there is a steady stream of instructions flow from the dug out. McInally delivers them in a calm an sensible manner unlike some of the screaming idiots we often see in the opposition's technical area. For me thats not a fault, its a strength McInally has.

As one of McInally's fiercest critics, I feel bound to reply. I generally find your posts interesting and well informed, but on this one I believe it is you who needs the reality check.

Your argument is entirely illogical. If Stirling win tonight and we end up ONE point ahead at this stage in the season with all those resources you correctly mention, and having blown an impressive lead, many in Scottish football would simply nod wisely in approval if Jim got his jotters.

As it happens, I too believe we will get promotion, but in an uneccessarily painful way, as evidenced by our last five or six performances. Because of that, we will undoubtedly persist with what is clearly far from perfect. Forfar are entitled to their point-we were not unlucky-we FAILED AGAIN to cope with a wee second division club, languishing in the basement.

McInally may well be a good disciplinarian, he could maybe get a headmaster's job somewhere, but he IS NOT a motivator. It's no comfort to me that his steady stream of directions only seem to reach your ears, as I watch 'idiots' like Moore kicking ass and getting somewhere.

I really hope you're right about an experienced 'old head' arriving. That WOULD undoubtedly help, but it's been a long time coming. Hopefully the Mathers thing is a portent.

Finally. tonsilitis, I fail to see the point in equating many of your fellow supporters to the OF brigade. Their mentality stems from bigotry and the need to beat the other lot-ours stems from having already taken that reality check at Cappielow.

mortonjag 2006-12-05 10:12:10
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Dec 5 2006, 09:28 AM) [snapback]208492[/snapback]

You still didn't say WHY should a football club chairman be expected to bail a football club out time after time? So we can watch subsidised football? The man's all heart!

What I was saying in a roundabout way, 44TT, is that he SHOULDN'T still be having to bail us out, but the fact that he IS, is of his own making, not ours.

I know he's 'all heart'-we've a lot to thank him for-but it doesn't take a huge stretch of the imagination to see that because he always thinks he knows best, and has been unable to delegate effectively, he's 'shot himself in the foot'.
mortonjag 2006-12-05 10:33:07
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 4 2006, 07:30 PM) [snapback]208360[/snapback]

Been wanting to have a rant about this since Saturday but I've had time to calm down due to my pc being buggered in the house.

I noticed that Jamie came in for a bit of stick from sections of the support on Saturday. For anyone that participated in this, can I ask why?

The boy burst a gut during the game and delivered well in excess of 20 crosses into the box. He really couldn't have done his job any better. Playing out of position on the right wing no more could reasonably be asked of him. Why McInally will not play him in the middle of the park's beyond me and becoming more infuriating by the week. He kept Alloa up almost single-handedly playing here last season. Why not a straight swap with Chris? Everyone in the crowd can see it, why can't our manager?

Jim, on the other hand had a sole contribution of one half arsed attempt at a cross in the first half. Other than that, nothing. As it has been for more or less all season. Barely won a tackle, ran about like a headless chicken, no positional sense, I could go on but you get the picture. The game totally passed him by.

Our manager certainly isn't helping the player by accomodating him on the left wing and even more bizarrely on Saturday, centre midfield.

So come on McInally, either drop McAlister or play him in his natural position. The boy's not a central midfielder in a million years.

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I couldn't agree more. What is it about this club? We were knocking spots off each other last season over Finlayson, Bob, but just like McAlister, he never got to play in the position he had effectively occupied (with Stranraer). Stevenson's a better player than Kev, yet the same's happening to him. He was an inspiration with Alloa, but with us he's not half the man he was-his concentration lapses regularly, and it's obvious he's not comfortable.

AND of course, Sanny-sure he's a 'one off' but he WAS knocking them in for fun at Brechin-and look what happened.

I still can't understand why wee Russell wasn't even on the bench on Saturday after his performance at Stirling, nor why McGowan has suddenly become one of the chosen few. I don't deny his talent, but you have to EARN your place each week.

I wish I knew what's going on 'behind the scenes', but just like your poor PC, a lot of folk are getting 'buggered' at Scapa. wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-05 10:44:36
QUOTE(jpmil @ Dec 5 2006, 10:23 AM) [snapback]208508[/snapback]

Basically Morton need to get out of this league. Then he will be guarenteed bigger crowds.
Having regularly examined the attendances at 1st Division games other than Dundee & Partick I don't see where we will be "guaranteed" bigger crowds. If I've missed something please explain!

That's an extremely important point many are missing when they continue to be patient with the current set up. Our POTENTIAL if we get up is far greater than many accept or realise, but if Dougie imagines we'll be pulling in the crowds having scraped our way up and by persisting with the present fiasco, he really is losing his marbles.
mortonjag 2006-12-05 10:50:35
QUOTE(gallowsbank @ Dec 4 2006, 12:26 AM) [snapback]208143[/snapback]

Aye, we seem to be a bit of an unknown quantity to you guys. A bet we can spring a few surprises as you appear to have taken us lightly and have been naughty boys and have not done ur homwork.

Points to remember> Were more professional than GRETNA and have a better support, we'er more organised than QOS and have already beaten them this season, were good friends of Stranraer and they failed to beat us preseason. Weve drew with Newcastle this year and won the Scottish Qualifying (South) Cup a couple of weeks ago............................. Our average home crowd for Scottish Cup ties are far superior than the size of your home crowd yesterday.

I would be concerned if I was a Morton fan, as your results in the last few weeks have been pretty poor. Im glad im no you and im no concerned. Hope you take a good look at our setup before noon on saturday as theres no chance of seeing it at fulltime unless of course you bring a hanky to dry your eyes and a spare of pants to change into.

The stagecoaches start to leave well before fulltime at Gallowsbank, an just before we hang any stragglers out to dry. :-)

Wishing you all a safe journey down the M74, remember and turn right at the Eaglesfield turnoff as Annan is just 6 miles along the road.

www.annanathletic.com

All I can say to you mate, is that I remember good old Spartans against the midden last time around-NOTHING is guaranteed in the cup-maybe you'll do us a favour by gubbing us, and force Douglas Rae to take stock.
mortonjag 2006-12-05 10:56:05 I won't be going-I'd frankly rather listen to 'Prime Minister's Question Time' than a less professional pack of lies.

If I believed for one minute that Rae would listen to, rather than just hear what the fans are saying, I'd be one of the first in the door though.
mortonjag 2006-12-05 11:06:25
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Dec 5 2006, 10:56 AM) [snapback]208525[/snapback]

The present fiasco where we are top of the league.

Stirling won't keep it up.

It's a fiasco Dong-like me racing your new Fiat in a clapped out scooter and breathing down your neck, and who says Stirling won't keep it up?

Don't cite their lack of resources versus our abundance-that's the substance of the fiasco. If they've got it right, and we've not, we can't be complacent.
mortonjag 2006-12-05 11:10:25
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Dec 5 2006, 12:22 AM) [snapback]208441[/snapback]

As part of the 75%+ yes I'm still confident that McInally is the right man for the job. I think Mathers could turn out to be a significant signing giving his keeping, coaching and assistant managers experience. He'll help steady the ship over the next few weeks, giving the outfield players a bit more confindence in the defence letting them attack a little more. Also if Dougie does make a little more cash available for strengthening then Jim will certainly get some more experience into the team. Hopefully this will help sort out our currently goal shy strikers (McGowan has 10 and is followed by Miller and Weatherson - although if you look at only the league then McGowan and Miller are tied on 6!). Saying that we still have the best scoring and defensive records in the league.

I also confident that MortonJag will continue to moan and snip at Jim well into next season, even when we're coping well in the 1st division. ohmy.gif

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--and he's managing Pollok Juniors! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-05 11:14:53
QUOTE(piehutt @ Dec 2 2006, 05:17 PM) [snapback]207568[/snapback]

I still think we will - have every faith.

To quote the Apostle Paul, piehutt, 'Faith without works is dead'.
mortonjag 2006-12-05 11:18:39
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 4 2006, 07:33 PM) [snapback]208362[/snapback]

He was not on the bench Brian Graham was.

WHY?
mortonjag 2006-12-05 11:30:56
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Dec 4 2006, 06:57 PM) [snapback]208345[/snapback]

We don't have anyone at the club who fits my definition of a striker, which is someone who gets on the end of moves, harrasses the defence, gets in where it hurts and scores goals regularly. The type of guy whose name will always be near the top of the scoring charts.

The last such player we had was Alex Williams, who I'm pretty sure would have put a couple away on Saturday. Before that I think it was the young Derek Lilley.

The players we have up front all seem to want to operate outside the box with their backs to goal and constantly turn inside with the ball, they are more like traditional inside forwards or attacking midfielders, none of them are direct enough to be called strikers IMO.

Lilley tries to be direct but just doesn't seem to be as sharp to get on the end of things. Templeman tries hard but takes so long to line up a shot the keeper and defence have time to cover. Deuchar might be worth a chance if available and affordable.

I agree with your perception of a 'striker' DOT, and we could certainly use one as any team can, but at the moment it's not the priority. We desperately need our current talented squad used effectively. So much has been made of our full time status, our wonderful fitness and training schedules, and of course the DISCIPLINE !!!!!

I put it to you and the others that if we picked any team of eleven from the whole full time squad, PURELY on the strength of playing in their natural positions, and allowed them to settle without meddling, we'd soon be pulling ahead again.
mortonjag 2006-12-05 11:37:03
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Dec 4 2006, 06:14 PM) [snapback]208331[/snapback]

Now that is an idea tongue.gif

McInally would play him in goal. mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-05 11:44:49
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Dec 4 2006, 03:06 PM) [snapback]208249[/snapback]

He’s doing a pretty good job of showing he’s tactically inept huh.gif

Going by the reports if we play like that in the 1st we’ll go straight back down.
I don’t want that to happen and that’s what scares me.

If JM delivers the title then of course he deserves to be given a chance to show his worth in the 1st.

I was praising JM earlier in the season for turning things around but now it would appear we’re back to the stuff we endured from Jan – May last season.

There's actually a slight difference-last year they ran about like headless chickens waiting for something to happen, and when it didn't we could all blame Andy McLaren.

This season he's doing not badly thank you at Dundee-apart from that it's the same shower of wee inexperienced boys.
mortonjag 2006-12-05 11:52:19
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Dec 4 2006, 07:55 PM) [snapback]208370[/snapback]

I seem to recall it was the same people who were saying sack McInally after the 0-0 draw with Ayr only for them to turn around and say how great things were as we gubbed all in front of us and started the season undefeated in 11. Then we go on a five game sticky patch and it's all doom and gloom. If only your bosses were as fickle as you lot when assessing your performance.

I've said before-when the boys play well, we are good, but it seems to be total hit and miss stuff as far as the management goes.

I've seen more than enough already this season to persuade me that either McInally isn't picking the team or he's clueless about positional play. As for tactics-nufsed.
mortonjag 2006-12-05 12:09:20
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Dec 5 2006, 12:05 PM) [snapback]208546[/snapback]

Dundee United manager Craig Levein aims to tie up a deal for Cowdenbeath's Morgaro Gomis, who has been training at Tannadice for the last two weeks.

"I've arranged to meet Cowdenbeath chairman Gordon McDougall and have a chat with him on Wednesday," Levein told The Courier.

"Morgaro wouldn't be a recognised first-team player at this stage.

"He'd be more one for next season, so if we get him it would be with a view to the longer term."

Frenchman Gomis, 20, arrived from Barnet in the summer and has scored twice for Cowdenbeath, who are reported to be seeking a £20,000 fee.

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For £20k it would be worth us putting in a bid just to test the waters.

WHAT-do you mean to see if Cowden are kidding?

Do you SERIOUSLY want to sign another inexperienced kiddie?
mortonjag 2006-12-05 12:14:00
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Dec 5 2006, 12:02 PM) [snapback]208545[/snapback]

Thanks
Thanks for that LAS.
MortonJag

This is the time to ask your questions directly to the Manager and Chairmen with them having no hiding place.

If folk like you don’t go they might get the ‘Everything’s Rosy In The Garden’ feeling and that isn’t a true reflection going by this board.

I’m very surprised at you.

Get yer erse doon there !!!

I will go Jim, if you honestly think it's worth it, but I've just lost confidence in them listening, and imagine that (particularly in DDFR's case), he'll just patronisingly tell us we're in safe hands.

Do you really believe that even if quite a big section of us showed our disappointment, anything would change FOR THAT REASON?
mortonjag 2006-12-05 12:18:29
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Dec 5 2006, 12:11 PM) [snapback]208548[/snapback]

It would be worth seeing what they want for one of their best players so we know how much we'd have to pay if we want to sign him in the summer as he's a bloody good player.

Fair enough if we get promoted but did you not suggest Levein's on the hunt now?
mortonjag 2006-12-05 12:29:06
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 3 2006, 04:37 PM) [snapback]207924[/snapback]

From what I gather on P&B, every club has its happy clappers, its boo boys, its gritty realists and its inbetweeners.

I may create a personality quiz to this effect next week, although I probably won't.

Which obviously makes you an 'inbetweener'!
mortonjag 2006-12-05 12:37:20 Well, here's another chance to get some opinions-by all means just vote, but it would be nice to know why.
mortonjag 2006-12-05 12:43:28 Well-have they, and let's hear what you think instead of just anonymous votes.
mortonjag 2006-12-05 12:48:50
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 5 2006, 12:41 PM) [snapback]208566[/snapback]

So, you're asking what's changed between December 2nd at 6pm and Tuesday December 5th at 12:30pm? Naff all, I'd say.

Alibi's spot-on here: you're like the European Union, you'll keep on putting up polls until you get the right result biggrin.gif

On the contrary, opinion clearly has changed-the last poll was NOT started on December 2nd and as you well know, the body of opinion was voiced long before then. I can't make anybody vote one way or another. What are you scared of?
mortonjag 2006-12-05 12:50:33
QUOTE(Andy M @ Dec 5 2006, 12:41 PM) [snapback]208564[/snapback]

Why not go the full hog and make it "best out of 3" ... maybe that way you will get the result you want.

Yer Barred !!!! for even suggesting this thread - WE ARE TOP OF THE LEAGUE !! Got it ?

Yes-I've got it-you think that opinions don't change-well they do-wait and see!
mortonjag 2006-12-05 12:55:09
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 5 2006, 12:46 PM) [snapback]208570[/snapback]

It's a loaded poll with loaded answers, I'm not voting.

"Total confidence" in anything is very hard to come by, least of all a football manager.

"Keep him til next season" is ridiculous - if we win every game between now and April, or if we scrape up on goal difference, the outcome is the same but people may select differently based on that. What about if we don't go up?

I'll rejig it if you want-the 'total confidence' thing came from the last poll Nacho, and nobody complained then-it's not loaded-like ALL polls it's imperfect, but it gives ample opportunity to assess people's feelings, AND nobody's obliged to vote, AND I've asked for comments, so people can qualify their votes if they want, but you're away off in the huff by the sound of it.
mortonjag 2006-12-05 13:12:16
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 5 2006, 01:00 PM) [snapback]208581[/snapback]

That doesn't mean it's not a loaded poll.

It's a "Have you stopped beating your wife, Y/N?" poll, basically. If I absolutely 100% had to vote, I'd vote no. I have enough confidence but not total confidence. But if I vote no to this poll then you'll take it (rightly) as written - yet another person who does not vote yes.

If you could even just take out the "total" and replace it with "plenty of", or something, I'd vote, and I'd vote yes.
Other polls are designed with impartiality in mind, though. I don't think this one was.

I've given comments but you've said I'm going off in the huff, so I assume that - horror of horrors - you only want the "right" comments.

Now, I'm going off in the hufffor lunch. Later biggrin.gif

Of course I'd like to think that people can see what's happening, but as I said Nacho there's the opportunity to comment just as you have. I'd say that compared to most of the polls on here it's not exactly the worst in terms of impartiality-but I sense you're more offended that I've dared to put our manager under the spotlight again than anything else.
mortonjag 2006-12-05 13:27:36 Is he really so stupid, or is he trying to soften us up for something. If he and his mate Arthur can't see why, they've really lost it.

What's the hidden agenda?
mortonjag 2006-12-05 21:36:45 Stirling only won 'cos we softened Forfar up for them. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-06 07:32:45
QUOTE(BubbaTON @ Dec 6 2006, 02:10 AM) [snapback]208919[/snapback]

everyone saying we are top of the league.

big f***ing whoah. We are top of the league by one point in a league full of part time teams who train a couple of itmes a week aswell as working.

That really isnt much of an achievment. So why is everyone using this as the main reaosn why McInally is doing well.

A half decent manager owuld be romping this league. We have the team, the finance, the training facilities, the backroom staff. Everything to walk this league. The only thing we dont have is a decent manager who actualy knows what he is doing.

Stirling apparently won comfortably, hitting the woodwork twice before scoring on the stroke of half time, and getting a second thereafter.

Forfar are a very poor side this season Bubba, yet on threads since Saturday's farce we've still had excuse after excuse for McInally. Anyway it's nice to see you joining the bunch of vociferous 'idiots' who get torn to shreds every time they dare to question his omnipotence.

PS Are you originally from Houston?
mortonjag 2006-12-06 08:01:11
QUOTE(Vialli_No7 @ Dec 5 2006, 02:04 PM) [snapback]208614[/snapback]

That's a bit of a crusade you're on there MortonJag. Can you honestly say that you haven't got something personal against McInally?

You appear to use every opportunity to criticise McInally over the players he picks. You start numerous threads about his lack of experience and tactical ability, yet continually fail to recognize his attributes and the good decisions, of which there are several to look back on.

On the occasions that we play well or JM makes good team selections or substitutions you are conspicuous with your absence on the board. A point that I'm not alone in noticing.

I admit that I too, sometimes shake my head or kick the Cowshed steps in confused anger when I see some of his team formations or substitutions but to quote Rumsfeld there are some knows that we don't know. What I mean is, none of us on here know the full reasons for any tactical or formation change. We don't have the full knowledge of what is said at training, how the players play in training, what they discuss and suggest in the dressing room, what does and doesn't work on the training ground what ideas are contemplated between players and manager. There is a whole lot more to managing a squad of players than picking 11 players on a Saturday afternoon.

You seem, on a few occasions at least, to be of reasonable intelligence, yet you also seem oblivious to all this and also to what is obvious to all . And that is that the simple fact that GMFC will not sack a JM this season. So why continue with this onslaught of ridicule and belittling of what is OUR top of the division Manager.

Please do those with patience and hope a favour, lay off with the burn the witch threads for at least a while, see how things pan out by February then by all means come back, if you must, with your "I told you so" messages.

Vialli, I do not start or contribute to threads on Jim for fun, and my only issue is that I firmly believe he's taking us backwards-that's not personal.
In the past, I've had to sack more than one employee whom I respected because the job wasn't getting done properly.

So what are those 'attributes and good decisions' I fail to recognise and acknowledge? I've consistently said he appears to be a good disciplinarian, and fitness coach, and can spot young talent. Please CHECK my posts before you criticise me again. While doing so you will notice that I consistently praise the boys collectively and/or individually, and regularly 'feel for them' when they appear to be messed about from 'on high'.

As to the 'several good decisions' the manager has made, you'll need to tell me what they are-I'm assuming you're referring to matches, and not backroom stuff.

Your huge 'Rumsfield' paragraph-it's merely stating the obvious, but since you're into quotations, how about 'Facts is facts'-can't remember who said it, but we're now ONE point ahead of our part time rivals.

You appear to be yet another of my pet hates-one who speaks for all-when you state it's obvious he won't be sacked. If we lose as much ground on Stirling in the next month as we've done in the last, HE BETTER BE.

There's nothing wrong with patience and hope Vialli, but those of us who can see what's really happening have run out of those.

As I have said before, I don't expect Jim to be sacked, and I believe we'll get promoted in spite of him. Who knows, if it suddenly occurs to him that a couple of experienced onfield players could do a good job of covering his deficiencies, he might even get another MOTM award before the Spring.

Finally, I know this poll may not be statistically perfect, but I did use exactly the same wording as in the previous one, and so far the 75% has dwindled to 48%
mortonjag 2006-12-06 09:05:45
QUOTE(Vialli_No7 @ Dec 5 2006, 02:48 PM) [snapback]208628[/snapback]

Your first ever post.

Hmm I think not .
Hello MJ! rolleyes.gif

Blame my grandson Vialli-he's only three mind you. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-06 09:36:40 Douglas Rae knows that the Ton need promotion to become self sufficient. Although the input of the fans in terms of gates and vocal support IS important, I totally fail to understand his recent outbursts.

IF we had got that promotion two years ago, or even last season, I imagine things would seem quite different to him-especially in financial terms.

The fact that we did not can hardly be laid at the door of us poor fans who broke our hearts at Stranraer and Peterhead.

Why is it that when somebody like Cowshed Chris says something a wee bit OTT he gets lambasted, but every proclamation from Dougie's mouth is seen as the word of God.

The only two things Dougie has given the club are support and money-huge positives admittedly-but the factual evidence of his failing autocracy is staring us in the face.

Tonsilitis has stated correctly that most self made millionaires are egocentric. It's also well accepted in financial circles that the last man to see a business going down is the guy who founded it.

Instead of desperately scraping around for excuses for what IS becoming a bit of a joke in footballing circles, Rae needs to take a long hard look at himself and his 'Daddy knows best' attitude.

My fear is that he will find that impossible.
mortonjag 2006-12-06 09:52:25
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 5 2006, 10:56 PM) [snapback]208875[/snapback]

I thought our fans didn't want an inexperienced Manager laugh.gif

Well you thought wrong!

Experience is no guarantee of success-look at le Guen for example, nor is inexperience a guarantee of failure as evidenced by Moore's performance.

If you check the posts Colkitto you'll discover that umpteen Ton fans are trying to let McInally off the hook on account of his inexperience, and even those of us who are now sick of him HAD expected some improvement with time-we did not jump the gun on the issue.

He has been with us for long enough to asses him. He has not improved. Moreover, he's already in his forties with NO previous managerial experience.

I wish it had worked for him and us but it hasn't, and I, for one, would sign Moore in a jiffy, given the chance.
mortonjag 2006-12-06 09:58:37
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 6 2006, 09:51 AM) [snapback]208954[/snapback]

You are right. Swearing is just a demonstration of lack of vocabulary and I should not have used it. In my defence, you certainly know how to give offence, swearing or no swearing.

You have no idea obviously how the club could operate without Douglas Rae and it is just short sighted, stupid and downright dangerous to suggest otherwise - not to mention offensively ungrateful.

The nly way Morton coukld become self sufficient in terms of profitability is to get to the SPL in they way that Caley, Falkirk, St Mirren and others have achieved. Outside of the SPL there is no way you can create a team capable of seriously challenging for promotion to the SPL and break even financially. If you have those aspirations then you need a Douglas Rae unless you can come up with some else with the same financial resources and unquestioned commitment to Morton

We desperately need Douglas Rae's money. IMO we equally desperately need him to do himself and us a favour by becoming Honorary Chairman-a position I'd certainly respect, and delegating the running of the club to others.
mortonjag 2006-12-06 10:01:32
QUOTE(se65an @ Dec 6 2006, 07:52 AM) [snapback]208931[/snapback]

The loss of a 9pt lead is bring back old memories, memories that belong in the past!!

deja vu indeed sean-including that certainty that we'd 'walk' the playoffs. mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-06 10:26:28 McInally stated in the last programme that we need experience.

Rae stated in the same rag that he probably won't be spending in January.

My prediction, and prayer, is that we can get our Mr Motivator on loan from the SPL or Div 1.

I'd also be unsurprised if Gowser goes, and the up side is that we'd have to use others who will be here when he's gone, but whom he's currently keeping out even when off form.
mortonjag 2006-12-06 11:04:02
QUOTE(Alibi @ Dec 6 2006, 08:35 AM) [snapback]208935[/snapback]

Absolutely crazy.

I don't see why my wee nativity scene showing Joseph going into the chemists to buy a packet of Durex could be offensive to anyone.....

I'm not a believer, but why the feck would anyone be offended by Christmas any more than by Eid or Diwali? They're all an excuse for a bit of partying.

No black homosexual female fascist disabled whales have been harmed in creating this post.

Alibi-no Durex was EVER going to stop that first one-ZAP-virgin conceives-aye right-naughty, naughty Joseph.

Seriously, though, if those muppets are allowed to flock around in turbans, masks, hijabs and so on, they should'nt mind getting a Christmas tree poked right up their arses every December 25th in exchange!
mortonjag 2006-12-06 11:11:28
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Dec 6 2006, 10:59 AM) [snapback]208982[/snapback]

McGowan may be getting farmed out to another team by Celtic come January, I don't know what to think about that. Hopefully all will be revealed at this evening in the Town Hall in a few weeks.

I think Celtic would be doing the right thing for him, them, AND US.

He's a talented lad-some of his touches particularly earlier in the season were a joy to behold, but he's alongside other inexperienced players, and far too much has been expected of him. Consequently his form has dropped-everybody seems to have noticed that-yet he's still been played week in week out, when others should have been given a chance.
mortonjag 2006-12-06 11:29:27 Just had a wee look, and on the home page I was delighted to discover that we're still six points ahead of Stirling.
mortonjag 2006-12-06 11:51:42
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Dec 6 2006, 11:41 AM) [snapback]208990[/snapback]

So oh great wise one name your first 11.

I for one would take the good Doctor on a short term contract if we could get him at a reasonable price. As many have said we don't have a 20+ striker in the squad and he would certainly fit that role. It's not that we don't create chances, it's usually that we try to over create them. Someone like the Doctor would just sieze on occasional half chances and put them away. That would enhance our goal threat especially against packed defences.

cool.gif ScotinBelgie

Can you not read?

I said pick ANY team from the fulltime squad on the strength of playing in their natural positions.

As regards Deuchar-I agree with you-not attractive to watch-a big shirt pulling, cheating, barging poacher-but aye-he'd get goals for us.
mortonjag 2006-12-06 11:56:32
QUOTE(Vialli_No7 @ Dec 6 2006, 11:48 AM) [snapback]208998[/snapback]

Sorry but that post says more about you than it does about the web site.

And that cryptic comment says more about you than your attempts to be logical.
mortonjag 2006-12-06 12:26:05
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 6 2006, 12:02 PM) [snapback]209010[/snapback]

That's so patently untrue.

It may be to you, but there's a blinkered majority on the forum who clearly won't have McInally, Rae, or anything Morton criticised, even as we career from one disaster to the next.
mortonjag 2006-12-06 12:33:27
QUOTE(Vialli_No7 @ Dec 6 2006, 12:28 PM) [snapback]209024[/snapback]

OK, I'll spell it out for you. Your post is typical of your apparent fondness for criticising and finding fault with anything Morton.

You seem to go out your way to start negative posts about the club and I have no idea whether you want to draw attention to yourself or to the limitations of a small provincial club.

NO Vialli-YOUR post is typical of YOUR fondness for having a go at me WHEN I criticise Morton. I see plenty that's good about the club, but I'm sick of things that aren't right, and I'd ask who's the one really trying to draw attention to himself here.

You've probably noticed that Andy has acknowledged the slip and got it fixed-but no doubt you'll still insist my post was negative.
mortonjag 2006-12-06 15:32:33
QUOTE(BubbaTON @ Dec 6 2006, 01:44 PM) [snapback]209060[/snapback]

yes i am.

Just wondered-i was born in Greenock, but brought up in Kilmacolm, and I lived for several years in B. of W., often popping over your way for a pint.

One of the pubs had a fantastic open fire-don't know if it still exists.
mortonjag 2006-12-06 15:44:08
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 6 2006, 03:27 PM) [snapback]209101[/snapback]

Well mortonjag.....

done wink.gif

I'm not pretending to have an answer Bryan-I guess you know more about the 'behind the scenes stuff' than me, and if you don't know of any individual/s at Scapa who could delegate better that's worrying.

As usual, people have jumped to conclusions. I welcome Dougie's efforts for us all, and I'm sure nothing would make HIM happier than to see real success, while still retaining the non executive position of Chairman which he thoroughly deserves.

Maybe we should just get f*ckin' Ramsay down to f*ckin' Scapa for a f*ckin' fortnight ! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-06 15:58:58
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Dec 6 2006, 12:31 PM) [snapback]209026[/snapback]

And I said so who in your perspective, playing in their natural position, based on ability would be our first choice squad. Alternatively dodge the question again! ohmy.gif And while pretty may not be the good Doctor's forte, having someone up front who you know is going to knock in 20+ goals a season takes a little pressure of the rest of the team allowing them to play the attractive football you so desire while still ensuring we collect points from every game. Personally I don't see anything wrong with that.

huh.gif ScotinBelgie

Since you insist-I wouldn't change too much-Mathers in goal, and a proper right back-either give the young lad Black a chance, or establish Finlayson there.

Left back's a problem-I know he's a bit raw at times, but the best performance this season came from Keenan.

With that sorted, I'm sure Harding and Greacen would settle-they CAN be very effective together.

I don't think we can drop Millar-he's got to play wide right as an attacking midfielder, allowing Stevenson to perform efficiently in his Alloa role, and backed up by Scott Mc. I'm sorry-I do rate McAlister- but definitely young Russell to utilise the left wing.

That leaves the 'goalscorers'-it's the area that worries me least-they'll all score if the rest gets sorted-but I'd start with Weatherson alongside Sanny.
mortonjag 2006-12-06 17:46:37
QUOTE(BubbaTON @ Dec 6 2006, 04:45 PM) [snapback]209149[/snapback]

eh aye think you mean the houston inn, owned by Walter Smith now (i think)

I can remember the 'Fox and Hounds', the 'Cross Keys' and the 'Houston Inn' but couldn't remember which-is it on the right hand side as you go in from Linwood/Brookfield?
mortonjag 2006-12-06 17:49:57
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken's Love Child @ Dec 6 2006, 03:55 PM) [snapback]209121[/snapback]

I can hardly remember a game, st johnstone in the challeneg cup aside, where we created a positive atmosphere! I think saturday. with the possibility of a big attendance and a home support to actually shout at for a change, we should be providing a great atmosphere this weekend! alas, i fear it wont be! as soon as someone (most likely Templeman or McGregor, as these are the 2 main scapegoats for the boo-boys just now) does something wrong, the atmosphere will change and all we'll get is moaning!

COME ON LADS AND LASS'S, LETS GET BEHIND THE TEAM FOR A CHANGE! I'M RIGHT UP FOR A GOOD SINGSONG biggrin.gif

The fans were great at Kirkcaldy-'Templeman, Templeman, Templeman' etc.

We seem to find voice when there's an opposition support to egg us on, but why we can't get behind our boys from the kick off at Scapa is a mystery to me, and booing is just not on IMO.
mortonjag 2006-12-06 17:58:51
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 6 2006, 03:58 PM) [snapback]209124[/snapback]

If Gordon Ramsey is a fan, would'nt it be great if we could get him involved in the hospitality catering and let it sell itself as the only club in the UK with a celebrity chef doing the food. Come to think of it, the facilities could be used on non match days as people would come just for the food. Lets face it, Inverclyde is not exactly bursting with gourmet restaurants.

The serious note here is that the club has decent facilities in the main stand and maybe our board could think about raising some money by using them. A gourmet restaurant in a quirky setting like Cappielow might just work and at say £25 a cover, they could do at least 250 covers over maybe Friday - Sunday = £350k per annum. The profit per cover at that would be likely to be around £12.50 given that there is no property overhead (its there anyway) = £175k profit. That sounds to me to be roughly around the annual deficit.

Problem solved-'Have you heard of that super new eating place in Inverclyde, Rae's they call it, you've just GOT to go-mind you I hear they're already booking a month in advance'.

Who knows Tonsilitis-it COULD work-but--- unsure.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-06 18:06:53
QUOTE(Vialli_No7 @ Dec 6 2006, 06:02 PM) [snapback]209171[/snapback]

Really? mellow.gif

Im certainly not saying you boo the team as you say you dont so I can only believe you. However, you must admit that the constant moaning and nit picking that you and many like you do on here does help create a negative and dispondant atmosphere come 3pm on a Saturday.

Christ almighty-Mortonjag and his few moany buddies are now to blame for the atmosphere at Scapa on a Saturday-never underestimate the power of a wee unofficial web site-eh! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-06 18:11:21
QUOTE(princessTON @ Dec 6 2006, 03:00 PM) [snapback]209087[/snapback]

I cant think of any excuse for not lifting your own dog s***. ohmy.gif

What about 'blind' dogs, or are they much better behaved than the average mutt?
mortonjag 2006-12-06 18:19:33
QUOTE(Vialli_No7 @ Dec 6 2006, 12:44 PM) [snapback]209037[/snapback]

Oh well done. You must be so proud. rolleyes.gif
of course, because it was.

Well it seemed to get a positive result-the omission was acknowledged and fixed, and Andy didn't complain. Isn't it nice to see somebody at Scapa who gets things sorted for a change. smile.gif

mortonjag 2006-12-06 19:40:06 sean I wish my Dad was still alive-he was a well known local archeologist and historian, and would have given you a definite answer.

I know Wallace's loup's at the top of the (Devol) glen, but I can't recall any other connections with the area. Remember Wallace had been executed long before Newark Castle was even built and the place was more or less open country. There may well have been the said churchyard/tree, but I reckon the story you've heard is apocryphal rather than historical.

If you want more info PG4U is an excellent site to browse.
Edit to add

Thanks Colkitto-you beat me to it-where can I get more information on that?
mortonjag 2006-12-06 20:25:48
QUOTE(se65an @ Dec 6 2006, 08:00 PM) [snapback]209197[/snapback]

Cheers!!!

The info was in the book 'On The Trail of William Wallace' By David, R. Ross. Looks like I left a copy of the book I had for a few years in the hospital last week....

Need to get another copy! Or many me missus can find it cos am a lazy git, and its probably next to my seat smile.gif

Yes sean-William Ross's book is more of a historical narrative than a biography I think, with a mixture of fact and folklore.

After Colkitto's post I remembered my Dad talking about that tree (we lived in the Port 'til I was seven) but I had completely forgotten about it-anyhow good luck with the project.
mortonjag 2006-12-06 20:32:36
QUOTE(craigeton @ Dec 6 2006, 07:06 PM) [snapback]209183[/snapback]

Why do you keep going on about Russell ? in place of Jim McAllister.
do you know something about him ?have you seen him play ?
I only ask cos i can only really remember seeing him 2 or 3 times.
He did look o.k. against Stirling for the 20 mins or so but i could hardly say he's any better than Jim. I'm sure he came on as sub in a couple of home games but wasn't outstanding.

I don't keep going on about him, and I have seen him play. In particular his 'OK' performance at Stirling was one bright light for me on a very dismal day.

If you think the final product from McAlister when he plays on the left is good, then fine. I don't-the boy's totally wasted on the left and it's a damned disgrace IMO.
mortonjag 2006-12-07 09:10:43 If, as has been suggested, DDFR reads our posts, I think we've collectively responded enough to allow him time to chew things over.

He did effectively throw down the gauntlet with his comments, and we took up the challenge.

We don't want rid of you Dougie, and we appreciate all you've done, but have a wee think about some of the issues raised by us please.
mortonjag 2006-12-07 09:19:03
QUOTE(tiger1 @ Dec 7 2006, 08:40 AM) [snapback]209286[/snapback]

[I have supported Morton for over 50 years. Over those years I have watched some poor teams and some excellent teams. However, seldom have I seen a team as poor as Forfar. Saturday was the first match I've managed to attend for a few months, the last was against Ayr when we also were very poor. On Saturday I was extremely puzzled about our formation. It seemed that we purposely decided against playing with any width on the left side. It appeared that McAllister was playing through the middle off the front two. Given that the centre of the Forfar defence was as busy as Sauchiehall Street on a Saturday afternoon, I was baffled that we didn't change this or encourage the full back to get forward into this space. There is no doubt that we should have won the match based on the possession and half chances we had, but playing without width really suited Forfar. At times it was like a training match, attack V defence, as Forfar made no attempt to keep the ball when playing it out of defence. It was simply kick it anywhere and at times we had three back marking one. Clearly our tactics are too predictable. Play four or five passes across the back, then knock it forward 40 or 50 yards with snow on it, and try to pick up knock ons or the second ball. It is performed far too slowly allowing the opposition to get behind the ball en masse. Sure there were glimpses of quick one -twos around the box and some reasonable movement at times, but is was Forfar we were playing who on Saturday's showing would have struggled to beat a good amateur team, and we are a full time team with good players ! This has been the pattern for the last two seasons. It is boring to watch and I fear that the attendances will continue to fall unless we improve. Saturday really was abysmal for the 1900 people who dragged themselves out in terrible weather. Unfortunately the entertainment value is nil. This is why the crowds are falling. Also at Morton we seem to be quite unique in that our players on the left side of the park are naturally right sided and this has been the case for some time. There is no doubt that we have the players to take us out of this division and the problems are not down to lack of effort but perhaps we need more straight forward tactics designed to stretch defences by utilising the complete width of the park and by doing everything much more quickly. ]

Welcome to some common sense and perception!

Just a wee word of warning tiger, you'll find it hard going in this jungle if you continue to criticise our management. mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-07 09:35:38
QUOTE(piehutt @ Dec 6 2006, 09:12 PM) [snapback]209230[/snapback]

The problem I have with Dougie is that he lacks good business sence in charge of the Ton.

For someone who has a clear business brain he treats Morton more like a hobby than an actual business.

A football club has to be run with a tight budget so that they appreciate the resources they have. The likes of St Midden and Clyde have shown this, without big businessmen in charge they are run without mass influxes of cash, and to a relatively successful level.

Aberdeen also a decent example, Stuart Milne refusing supporters calls to plough cash in as the club had to learn to stand on its own two feet.

If Morton are struggling to balance the books I think this can only be a good thing - we will stop squandering cash on ridiculously overpriced signings like Templeman (ok I'm a fan but the money we paid was crazy!) and concentrate on the resources we have.

If you'd given McInally that kind of money he could have picked out a couple of gems from the 1st and 2nd divison for a fraction of the cost - Jamie Stevenson just one example.

Perhaps without any money to squander Dougie will stick to chairman's duties rather than handpicking players for the manager and trying to affect the dressing room when he should be nowhere near it.

Everybody assumes that DDFR is a good businessman. He is relatively successful in that he heads a very small confectionery company, who run at a profit in a competitive market, but he hasn't exactly turned it into a Nestle.

I know nothing about how Golden Casket operates, but wouldn't be at all surprised if I spotted the good Dougie shovelling sugar into the boilers-and therein lies his problem.

Dougie, it's never too late to learn the art of delegation.Furthermore, employing 'yes men' may be good for the ego, but it's bad for business.
mortonjag 2006-12-07 09:43:25 With DDFR moaning about lack of money, and a plethora of goalscorers already in our squad, surely the priority is to fix the current problems.

If we ARE going to pin our hopes on signing ONE player, surely it's got to be an experienced midfield 'commander'.
mortonjag 2006-12-07 10:19:42
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Dec 7 2006, 10:10 AM) [snapback]209300[/snapback]

No, you find it hard going because you're a tool.

See what I mean Tiger-they never let you down-those bright sparks! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-07 10:23:41
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Dec 7 2006, 10:21 AM) [snapback]209302[/snapback]

I think you misunderstand me, your anti-McInally rants don't bother me in the slightest. However, you are still a tool.

I think you don't understand yourself this morning-try some solpadeine mate!
mortonjag 2006-12-07 10:31:57
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 7 2006, 02:40 AM) [snapback]209280[/snapback]

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=169157

An American Airlines flight made an emergency landing this week after a passenger with severe gas problems struck matches to mask the odor of flatulence, an official said.

The flight from Washington to Texas landed at Nashville airport on Tuesday, in the southeastern state of Tennessee, after passengers alerted the crew about the smell of burning sulfur, Lynne Lowrance, spokeswoman for the Nashville International Airport Authority said.

She said all 99 passengers and their luggage were taken off the plane and searched, and an unlucky canine team was brought in to sniff the aircraft for explosives.
sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Dogs love the smell of fart.
mortonjag 2006-12-07 10:36:59 Poor little rich kids eh-six f*cking Santas for Mummy and Daddy to explain.

Greedy wee Egyptian bastard if you ask me.
mortonjag 2006-12-07 11:48:56 Morton 10 Annan 1

Finlayson 7, Harding 3

Templeman o.g.

Attendance 23456
mortonjag 2006-12-07 11:50:37
QUOTE(WullTon @ Dec 7 2006, 11:46 AM) [snapback]209321[/snapback]

If teams raise thier game against us we should be able to raise ours further tongue.gif we are the full time team here .

Exactly-we expect it, and we should be able to prepare for it.
mortonjag 2006-12-07 14:29:28 To Stu and Stonerose-stop being devil's advocate-I agree entirely with you both that sometimes the Ton players AND fans may seem too big for their boots, but it's a well acknowledged fact-frequently quoted by other 2nd div players and managers-that they raise their game against us-in exactly the same way as, say, Falkirk currently raise theirs against the OF.
mortonjag 2006-12-07 14:52:17
QUOTE(gorkir @ Dec 7 2006, 12:58 PM) [snapback]209337[/snapback]

you can take nothing away from Dougie he saved our club
however someone at Cappielow whether it be the manager or the chairman is signing the wrong type of player - we need players to fight their way out of this division not pretty footballers that get bullied off the ball all the time
the players we have are good enough for the first division but I honestly think we need seasoned pros who have been through this level before to get us out of this league
in saying all that - I still think the players that we have should take us up a level however a good old pro or two signed for just 6 months will see us win this league at a canter

Dougie as stated is reluctant to spend any more money - if so he should now be out there looking for further investment or even selling the club if he cant take it any further forward - I think the problem here is that Dougie wants to keep the club to himself

anyway to finish

the fans who are getting emotionally disturbed by our recent form are obviously wee boys
if you have been a supporter as long as I have - and I go back to the early 60's - you will have realised that being a Morton supporter is all about ups and downs - mostly downs
even when the team is playing well and you think this is our year they can let you down
away back in the late 70's when we were in the premier league we got to 2 semi finals and this was arguable the best morton side ever
the first semi the league cup against Aberdeen - a team we beat on a regular basis - the manager fielded a player who was injured against professional advice - aberdeen were wise to this and the palyer was taken out within minutes of the start and had to be stretchered off
the second semi against rangers - again this was a team we more than matched - the manager left out our best player and top goalscorer - and again we lost

at that time the Morton side were more than capable of beating these two teams but we - the fans - were built up with expectation and then let down with a bang

so what i'm saying is dont be like the old firm fans who cant accept defeat - we are going to loose games hopefully not on a regular basis but we must remember to get behind the team
remember they are only second division players - they are not english premier players if they were they wouldn't be playing at Cappielow

Gorkir, I think that's a well balanced post, but I disagree with your perception of our disgruntled fans as 'wee boys', citing your experiences of old times.

I started going to Cappielow in 1959-60, and like you, have shared those disappointments. The difference now is that we have never in all those years been apparently so far ahead of the rest in every department, and yet been struggling for the third season in a row.

I find that-as you put it euphemistically-emotionally disturbing-some might suggest f*cking maddening would be more appropriate!
mortonjag 2006-12-07 15:25:24
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Dec 7 2006, 01:12 PM) [snapback]209340[/snapback]

I've been shopping around for insurance for a motorbike I was considering buying. The bike costs £6000 and the first quote I got for it?

£8929. WTF? mellow.gif I thought it was a mistake but I ran through it again and sure enough, £8929. Think I'll shop around a bit more.

So that's why you're in a bad mood BH-let's face it though-bikes are for men, not 28 year old boys who use them to visit fields, lamp posts, and things.

I'm not saying you're one of those types, but as you well know, they're the ones who cause your problems.

You're obviously budgeting for 10k so get yourself a decent motor instead, and enjoy being a girny b*stard in comfort. smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-07 15:44:07
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Dec 7 2006, 03:34 PM) [snapback]209385[/snapback]

Haha, not a bad post from you there Jag. However, I think you'll find that the ridiculous premiums for motorbikes, particularly high powered sportsbikes, are caused by so called "born agains". These guys hit 50, the kids leave home and they go out and buy a two wheeled missile capable of 190mph because they used to have a Yamaha FS1E when they were a lad about town. Ten days later they land in a field while watching their bike cartwheel down the road, smashing into a thousand pieces.

Anyway, got it down to under £800 thanks to a specialist. Still expensive but it's a beautiful bike. smile.gif

Well done, and be a good boy-no winding up old dicks like me in their carreras and m3's !!
mortonjag 2006-12-07 16:08:43
QUOTE(1insert_player_here @ Dec 7 2006, 03:55 PM) [snapback]209394[/snapback]

No it's not - stop talking s***e.

What would it matter anyway? No one complained when "Morton" raised their game against St J.

Do you just argue for the sake of it-stop spamming.
mortonjag 2006-12-07 17:51:11
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Dec 7 2006, 05:45 PM) [snapback]209425[/snapback]

Chris is our top league goalscorer, so he must be doing something right. He raely 'hides' in any game, even when he isn't playing well - more than could be said for John Maisano. smile.gif

If Chris Millar and Jamie Stevenson could work out who's supposed to do what, they'd both be scoring more goals IMO.

I'm NOT going to blame the management for that-I'm actually getting a bit fed up with it-let's face it, if the players had any baws they'd smile and nod at JM and then play their own game.
mortonjag 2006-12-07 17:54:02
QUOTE(1insert_player_here @ Dec 7 2006, 04:18 PM) [snapback]209403[/snapback]

No. rolleyes.gif

sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-07 20:14:06
QUOTE(MIFTHEBINO @ Dec 7 2006, 07:57 PM) [snapback]209476[/snapback]

Yip, he was the same for us, but he has taken his cahnce well over the two games Deno has been suspended and could even start again on Saturday!!
The Ginger God-lol

Its a good point about last season as if we didnt have a bad start (first 11 games), then we could have been challenging Gretna for the league.

The main reason for our success is that we have kept quite a lot players together over the last 5 or so years and they all know each other. Last season's players are all great additions whilst its easy for the couple of signings we have made this season to fit in. We have a great mix of experience and youth, whilst even some of our younger players-Devine,O'Brien, Nugent, Wilson,etc are all under 22 and all have featured in 100-150 games.
Its all about keeping onto these players for us and hoping we can bring a good striker in come January-if we do that, then we will be a serious threat this season!

I thought Devine was signing for us in January-heard it was a foregone conclusion rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-07 20:23:15
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 7 2006, 07:39 PM) [snapback]209469[/snapback]

That's good to know. Wasn't aware you could amass a no claims discount when a named driver. unsure.gif

I only passed my test at the start of the year and have been driving as a named driver on both my other half's and mother's insurance up 'til now.

Only one or two companies have started that option, but start shopping around on line about a month before your renewal date Bob. I've discovered it's worth checking EVERYBODY-it's amazing the different quotes from different companies. I changed my car recently from a Jag to an MG and the renewal quotes varied from over £900 to £240-you can't afford to just accept any old quote.

If you want to be lazy the best search engine is undoubtedly confused.com
mortonjag 2006-12-08 09:19:46
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Dec 8 2006, 08:44 AM) [snapback]209565[/snapback]

I will wait till after tomorrows game but still confident of no mishaps.

Then any of the old Firm away to give the club some revenue, wouldnt surprise me if we did that alot of their fans would turn up on the day at either of their grounds.

That's undoubtedly the best scenario at the moment-hopefully play well and get the heads back up even if we do get beat.

We'd leave with plenty of dosh and be able to concentrate on the league.

Failing that, it's a catch 22 IMO-what's the point in drawing 'lesser' teams and having to claw our way along in the cup with no financial return?

Probably second best is a home tie against one of the 1st Division sides. We could win that (as against St Johnstone) and make at least some profit too.
mortonjag 2006-12-08 09:23:35 I don't think Stirling will be in the market for Deuchar, unless he's willing to take a HUGE drop in salary.
mortonjag 2006-12-08 09:38:57
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 8 2006, 09:34 AM) [snapback]209582[/snapback]

I'd love to see someone as successful as Ramsay in charge of Morton, eventually, however Ramsay did say that it was something he wanted to do when he was older. He said something about not wanting to be sitting in a stand with a tartan rug over his legs just yet.

Maybe in a few years... he's a tremendous businessman (no offence to DDF Rae at all but Ramsay's a cut above, perhaps second only to Jamie Oliver in the UK cookery business in terms of money) and, as you say, he'd run a tight ship.

Most importantly, a 'Ramsay' would employ staff only on proven ability, and would delegate effectively.
mortonjag 2006-12-08 09:50:26
QUOTE(SherrifFatman @ Dec 8 2006, 09:37 AM) [snapback]209586[/snapback]

'The Board said it had listened to concerns from the public and clinicians'. !!!

Full marks to the Board, but who the hell else should it listen to?

Keep the clinicians, nurses, radiologists, physios etc., and save yourselves a fortune by decimating the parasitic and hitherto self propagating administration.
mortonjag 2006-12-08 09:54:55
QUOTE(Greenock Morton FC @ Dec 7 2006, 09:09 PM) [snapback]209505[/snapback]

Anyone in here do car insurance?

Im looking at buying a Honda Civic Type R, But the cheapest quote I can find is £3550.

unsure.gif

Either you're at the 'wind up' or you afford the insurance if you can afford the car.

IF you're serious, at your age you'll have to try a specialist broker if you want to drive anything faster than a lawnmower.
mortonjag 2006-12-08 10:12:33
QUOTE(gorkir @ Dec 8 2006, 09:45 AM) [snapback]209588[/snapback]

I have to say I was disappointed with the reaction of a lot of fans and dougie when the ramsay story was first muted
if someone is willing to take this club forward to another level it shouldn't be scoffed at
my only doubt re dougie - will he sell his club or would he even accept an investment which would result in someone else having a say in his club

I share those concerns. I remember at the time of the Ramsay thing we were doing quite well, and I had a wee laugh when Dougie announced 'Greenock Morton Football Club is not for sale'. I thought-'Good on you DDFR-we don't want anybody muscling in on our success', but subsequent events have changed my mind.

It's becoming more and more obvious that Dougie primarily sees the Ton as 'his', and like a fussing overprotective mother, he's scared to let the wean out of his sight.

I know I'm repeating myself, but he'll HAVE to delegate some responsibility-FFS he even writes his own programme spiel, and he's not exactly a professor of English Language.

Apart from 'Arfur's' interesting column about football in general, we NEVER hear from the other directors-WHAT ARE THEY THINKING RIGHT NOW, I wonder?

Bryan constantly comes back with the-'who else could do it' stuff'-and quite rightly I suppose. Well Bryan, given the kind of annual losses Dougie's girning about, the appointment of a salaried 'director of football' would, given the right choice, bring immediate benefit to the club, and I am certain his wages would be recouped in a very short time.
mortonjag 2006-12-08 10:30:50
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Dec 8 2006, 10:24 AM) [snapback]209594[/snapback]

I remember starting a thread exactly the same as this before our game away to Ayr in the same round last year and we all know what happened then... sad.gif

It's not quite the same Iain, but like you I'm scared to take anything for granted.

One thing's for sure though-if we were to blow it against Annan, we'd kiss goodbye to our last chance of a cash injection this season-this game is not just a stroll in the park.
mortonjag 2006-12-08 10:33:55
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 8 2006, 10:29 AM) [snapback]209597[/snapback]

It's supposed to hit around 2 C tonight across most of Scotland - is it at all possible that the game will be cancelled?

Tomorrow's forecast for the bottom bit of Scotland is good-has been all week in the five day projections. The only way the game will be off is if we get unexpectedly severe overnight frost, or a freak cloudburst.
mortonjag 2006-12-08 10:37:10
QUOTE(moneton!!! @ Dec 8 2006, 10:32 AM) [snapback]209600[/snapback]

Has he not falling out with Moore? If so I think Moore would be happy to get rid of him and money in to get someone else.

If it's only a personal thing between Moore and the player, I doubt if the directors would let him go that easily.

On the other hand, if he's a trouble maker, should we even be considering him after our recent experiences?
mortonjag 2006-12-08 11:06:27
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 8 2006, 10:40 AM) [snapback]209607[/snapback]

Ramsey has been the only suggestion, and i doubt with his media and business commitments he would even entertain buying it. I have asked who at times as there has been suggestions like Mr Rae should delegate or retire without any real idea who would step in. A 'director of football' would not increase income, if we add anyone to the wage bill it should be players first, then if we can afford it someone that can help the current staff increase income.

Why do you suggest a salaried director of football would not increase income Bryan-do you think Mileson's an idiot in terms of running a company?

Such guys are paid to scrutinise the whole financial structure of the club and make changes to generate income AND save money. Dougie's shelling out 175k annually to balance an outgoing of 930k.

Even 10% on income generated would produce an extra 75k, and a similar reduction in outgoings 93k more, which just about lets him break even.

I realise a salary would have to be paid, but the figures I'm quoting should be by no means unattainable, and could well be exceeded.
mortonjag 2006-12-08 11:10:40
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Dec 8 2006, 10:47 AM) [snapback]209610[/snapback]

think its only Direct line that do this

thats the one withe the Phone isent it

EDIT TO ADD: dident see mortonjag's bit

Sadly NOBODY'S seen it for some wee while now Pedro. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-08 11:14:43
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 8 2006, 11:10 AM) [snapback]209618[/snapback]

What I understand they brought in a director of football to control the 2.5 million playing budget and get it down, not to change the non football side.

That may be correct-wages are far and away the biggest outlay for any business-not just the players-everybody, but the scope of a 'director of football, or finance, or whatever name you want to give him, at a club, can be, and often is much wider.
mortonjag 2006-12-08 11:24:49
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Dec 8 2006, 11:21 AM) [snapback]209625[/snapback]

size doesn’t matter it what you do with it that counts

So my mrs says anyway: lol:

What's her 'phone number? smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-08 12:55:56
QUOTE(MIFTHEBINO @ Dec 8 2006, 11:52 AM) [snapback]209635[/snapback]

I am sure he would consider a loan and this seems the most likely thing for him to do unless someone is willing to put in a silly bid as Gretna are looking for money for him!
He fell out with him months ago, but that was resolved at the next training sessions and he is slowing edging his way back into the team again. cool.gif

Regarding Deuchar, surely if the guy wants to choose a division 2 club to be with on loan he'd come to us. I am an admirer of the Binos-I'm not trying to wind you up-but from a player's perspective, we're the full time club with all the facilities, and-dare I say-POTENTIALLY a much better supply for a poacher.
mortonjag 2006-12-08 13:00:55
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Dec 8 2006, 12:22 PM) [snapback]209647[/snapback]

Woo, and indeed hoo smile.gif
But... 'The board said it had listened to concerns from the public and clinicians and decided Inverclyde could keep almost all existing services, except services such as urology and vascular surgery'

Not 'urology and vascular surgery', but 'services such as'... unsure.gif
Will have to see the proposals in full, but so far seems like good news.
Not that I've got a vested interest or anything...

Unless you fall on your arse at Scapa! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-08 13:36:26
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Dec 8 2006, 12:29 PM) [snapback]209656[/snapback]

No matter how one sided this game should or will be, I think it's plain ignorant to have a thread like this. Odds are some of the Annan fans will take a look at this board in the run up to the game and it's disrespectful to say the least. If we do go through and get a plum draw like Celtic at Parkhead, I'm sure a few people on here wouldn't like to see a 'Who Do You Want In The Next Round' thread on their (nightmare) messageboards.

We might not like to see it, I agree, but you couldn't blame the retarded for assuming they'd win, nor do I think you should be blaming our poster for discussing what for most is a foregone conclusion.

I doubt if any Annan fans will be in the slightest upset-it'll just give them more desire to 'get it up us', and make for a better atmosphere all round.
mortonjag 2006-12-08 16:23:38
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 8 2006, 02:52 PM) [snapback]209698[/snapback]

I'm the opposite - I'd love a game at Porkheid or Iprix to settle the finances, and even if we get knocked out, we can "concentrate on the league."

At least when we blow it again we might be in the black, not the red biggrin.gif

Exactly-this is not the season for Scottish Cup glories-in fact I'd almost go as far as to suggest I'd rather LOSE at the piggery or castle GS than anything else.

I never thought I'd hear myself say that Nacho, but unlike most of the posters, I'm getting on a bit, and I just can't bear the idea of being stuck in this morass that is division 2 for much longer, SO, if it's more dough we need, bring on one of the bigot brothers away from home.

Let's face it we COULD win, and beat the other lot in the next round, and--and---sorry--nature calls ! sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-08 19:11:31
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Dec 8 2006, 04:53 PM) [snapback]209749[/snapback]

Strikes me that some of you have NO ambition. I want a money making tie AND go on to a cup run. That'll be a game against the huns then obviously
.

That's a circular argument-any 'money making tie' as you describe it will inevitably be against a better first division side or SPL club, with the distinct probability of our elimination.

I understand your sentiment about a 'cup run' but its implicit gamble doesn't appeal in a season when revenue appears paramount.
mortonjag 2006-12-09 08:13:42
QUOTE(Jackie @ Dec 8 2006, 08:25 PM) [snapback]209805[/snapback]

Could also buy a usb to usb connection.

Can pick them up quite cheaply and would save all the hassle of the iPod.

Not expensive -presumanly your laptops DO have CD rom drives to load the drivers-its a handy wee bit of gear though not as versatile as a flash stick-only costs a few quid.
mortonjag 2006-12-09 08:20:34
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Dec 8 2006, 11:24 PM) [snapback]209861[/snapback]

It costs £56 to treat someone at Monklands, when compared to the other Lanarkshire hospitals, where it's £70/£72?

Do the attendance costs at Hairmyres and Wishaw include the cost of the new shiny PFI buildings?
And I don't think I've ever been accused of being politically naive... my point was that it's fecking obvious, decisions about which hospitals should close are ultimately made by politicians. And if they can, they'll always make the decision which will save their ass - i.e. save their local hospital dry.gif

That's a fact of NHS life that can't be denied-we're in a no-win Micawber situation, and politicians will always protect their own arses (and purses).
mortonjag 2006-12-09 10:13:20 If we lose this one-which we could-it will be the ultimate question for the McInally supporters.

I'd HATE to see it, and I believe the boys themselves will be big enough for it-I hope they just play the game the way THEY see it, knock spots off those cheeky upstarts, and get us back some much needed credibility.

Right, just about to don the thermal underwear and bulletproof vest, and we're OFF !!
mortonjag 2006-12-10 12:47:33 Annan 0 ...Martin Clark's eleven 3


And WELL DONE to the boys


That is all !!
mortonjag 2006-12-10 12:56:14 It is beginning to look like a bit of a conspiracy IMO

We were cruising at half time, but two goals had come from defenders (McGregor/Greacen)--- and Spoonsy, and Harding madie's Jamies goal with a really intelligent ball.

The players who seemed to do least were Millar, McAlister, and particularly Gowser, who showed his inexperience again when he failed to bury that header-yet wee Russell didn't even get a consolation run out.

It's beginning to look as though you either have to be a 'Morton baby'--e.g. McGregor or McAlister, or have a Celtic connection to guarantee you a place.
mortonjag 2006-12-10 13:00:58
QUOTE(se65an @ Dec 10 2006, 12:28 PM) [snapback]210371[/snapback]

Did it??
I never noticed!

Boy needs a few weeks on the bench. dry.gif

Millar was pretty poor yesterday, but I thought Jamie looked more comfortable than he's done for ages.

As for McGowan-he's been here long enough to assess-if he wasn't on loan from the Tims, I'm certain he wouldn't be guaranteed a place week in, week out, and even then rarely subbed when he's not producing.

I've nothing against the boy-he IS talented, but he's just a kid. I hope to hell he does go away soon unless he's going to sign for us.
mortonjag 2006-12-10 13:07:37
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 8 2006, 10:19 PM) [snapback]209847[/snapback]

I'm not trying to have a go. I just thought you may have mis-understood his point.

In saying that........name the players then tongue.gif

David Hannah, and Danny Lennon (who scored yesterday) have lifted the Blue Brazil back onto their feet.

LargsTon is correct-there are plenty of players in our division who could do a job for us.

Look at yesterday's game-FULL credit to all for a win, but in the second half we more or less stopped playing. OK I know we didn't need a to score more, but even J.M's saying in today's press that he wishes we hadn't stepped off the gas.

Truth is that with a real WILL to win coming from a 'Mr Motivator', we could easily have doubled the score.
mortonjag 2006-12-10 13:11:12 He wasn't there and we won, so who's questioning the wisdom of his absence?
mortonjag 2006-12-10 17:06:26
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Dec 10 2006, 11:38 AM) [snapback]210359[/snapback]

Crawford Allan against Brechin and Martin Sproule against Raith. mad.gif

Crawford Allan impressed me in the last game he refereed at Cappielow-as I recall he's quite a young guy, and seemed more intent on seeing fair play than drawing unwelcome attention to himself like the Hardies and Fyfes of this world.
mortonjag 2006-12-10 17:11:06 George Anderson may not have the record, but given that he was a traditional centre half who only really came up for corners and the like, he's the outstanding one for me.

This thread, of course, begs the question yet again. Why is a goalscorer being played as a defender?
mortonjag 2006-12-10 17:21:29
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Dec 10 2006, 02:59 PM) [snapback]210428[/snapback]

Christ, he's now been given another angle from which to spout his anti-Morton, anti-McInally bile. mad.gif

I don't need to be 'given' angles from which to criticise McInally-he presents them on a plate. I did not start this thread, yet you-oh high and mighty itchy baws-want to deny me the right to give the poster some support.

If you had thought a bit harder before your 'knee jerk' reaction, you might have considered that he has inside knowledge of things at Scapa, and totally endorsed my post.

As to my spouting 'anti MORTON bile'- the fact is that if I didn't care so much about the Ton, I wouldn't get upset by issues like this.
mortonjag 2006-12-10 17:25:45
QUOTE(jpmil @ Dec 10 2006, 04:42 PM) [snapback]210467[/snapback]

With the win yesterday and the fact that finally as most fans have been suggesting for a while that Stevenson and Miller should change places in the format do you think that McInally will realise the errors of his ways and stick with that format.
As we all know Stevenson was a prolific scorer in central mid-field for Alloa but since his arrival at cappielow has been played extreme right (why one might ask) but now that he has been moved I hope that Jim has seen the light.
The one thing that worries me about yesterdays victory is just how much the game was won by defenders and mid-field with "strikers" contributing nothing....
it continues to be a great worry!

I thought Jamie looked more comfortable than I've seen him for ages. Chris was off form yesterday, but I'm sure will make use of the right if JM persists with the change.

Frankly it's the left that ALWAYS disappoints, but then we do have a natural left winger who spent yesterday afternoon languishing on the bench.
mortonjag 2006-12-10 17:33:13
QUOTE(standman @ Dec 10 2006, 03:27 PM) [snapback]210441[/snapback]

Yep, well done for getting through.

Second half ws a complete non event with some very scrappy play.

Dreadful really.

Or maybe I just wasn't in the mood.

Main thing is that we are through to meet Killie - really looking forward to that after going out in second round last year.

I agree-if it hadn't been for the lovely (if cold ) weather, it would have been an awful lot for very little return. Annan totally hyped this up-even in the match day programme they were claiming they'd have 3500, and the dispersed nature of the Ton fans meant there was NO cup tie atmosphere at all.

I'm delighted we beat them-ultimately I don't care that it was pretty much a non-event, but IMO the real winners were the Pie Stall owners-£1.50 for a cup of soup- and the overtime grabbing polis who made it look like security at an airport. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-10 17:38:32
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Dec 10 2006, 01:15 PM) [snapback]210385[/snapback]

You're just being stupid now. I'm sure it won't be the last time.

I'm probably being stupid, and I'm sure it won't be the last time, but was that directed at me or just spam?

In any case -WHY was it stupid? We seemed to do well enough without our super tactician/ master motivator on the touchline. What's your point caller? smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-10 17:45:36
QUOTE(Graeme @ Dec 10 2006, 01:23 PM) [snapback]210389[/snapback]

Some fans might disregard what I am about to say but...I would sign Colin Cramb from Stirling (Free in Jan) and Moore of Stranraer. They are scoring goals in this league and they have the harness and experience of this division to get the job done. I still feel we have to many players with a soft centre. Moore and Cramb might not be the flair players fans want but they would roll their sleeves up and get ready to do the dirty work.

I entirely agree with your sentiments Graeme, but that quality you're citing would work far better for us from midfield or defence.

Andy McLaren, for example, WAS able to get our lads on the boil at times, but he was too unpredictable, and IMO too much was expected of him. Look at what Cowden have just done with Hannah and Lennon, and you won't go far wrong.
mortonjag 2006-12-10 17:54:43
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Dec 10 2006, 10:18 AM) [snapback]210337[/snapback]

McGowan was pretty ineffective, he had quite a few good touches but they never really went very far towards getting us another goal.

The best players were Stewart Greacen was unbeatable for the whole game apart from the one time the striker beat him and got hacked.

Chris Millar also played well, maybe having Martin Clark telling him what to do every few seconds helped his game, as he didn't have to think.

Chris Templeman also played very well at holding the ball up and bringing the midfield into the attack when he layed it off.

I thought that was by far one of Chris's poorer games-I agree about Gowser and Temps.
mortonjag 2006-12-10 17:59:18
QUOTE(lemmington @ Dec 10 2006, 05:19 PM) [snapback]210484[/snapback]

Ok so no one else will start this topic,but what wiz the score with the guy who was all dressed up with the yellow suit and gas mask on??????????
I know he or someone will address this topic but excuse me for my nievety but whit was that all abooooooooot.
Pretty sure he descended from the P.O.W. bus...........

Well it's only a guess but some poor bastard would have had to clean out those non-flushing portaloos after the game! sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-10 18:25:24
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Dec 10 2006, 01:24 PM) [snapback]210390[/snapback]

Can never understand u saying that, Alex needs a run in the team and wouldnt let him go!

Exactly-we've been told we're operating with a small squad, even by div 2 standards, and he wants to release the guy who's arguably had the rawest deal at Scapa.

Even Kenny McLean hasn't had a chance to prove himself one way or another (like Ryan Russell).

Big Greacen's one of those guys you either rate or don't-he's never going to be a class act, but I believe he can cope at division 1 level with Mathers and the right guys around him.

I'm going to stick my neck out, and say that the one player I'd like to see released is Jim McAlister. I know he's under contract for longer, but he's becoming more and more a luxury we can't afford IMO.

I hasten to add that that's not the player's fault. It's painfully obvious that other defences have sussed him, yet the management persist in sticking him wide left. The boy has undoubted ability, but as long as he has to fit in with McInally's muddle headed team selection and tactics, HIS career's suffering, and others are being kept out of their natural positions.
mortonjag 2006-12-10 18:31:39
QUOTE(Graeme @ Dec 10 2006, 06:23 PM) [snapback]210502[/snapback]

Mortonjag, I can't disagree with you. Last season I said during a reserve match we lacked someone like Danny Lennon, he would do for one season in this division.

We need a hardman midfielder and someone at the back. We dont have players who let the opposition know they are in for a game.

I identified Cramb and Moore as look at the time they gave our defence and evryone on this site was talking about moore after our match with Stranraer. They would not require an SPL wage like McLaren no doubt accumulated.

We really do need players who know what is required of them in this division and are willing to battle.

Davie Nicholas of Gretna on Loan would be good, John O'Neil of QOS are the type of player we require.

This debate's been rumbling on for ages, but I think that's the first use of 'Hardman midfielder', and IMO that's a perfect cameo of our needs. Chick Charnley springs to mind as an example.
mortonjag 2006-12-10 18:39:59
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 10 2006, 06:27 PM) [snapback]210506[/snapback]

Ach away with you...

No-away with YOU Bryan-you're always very loyal, and that's commendable, but you've got to be realistic too. It's ages now since Jim produced anything worthwhile in terms of attack up the left.
He's got bags of talent, but it's eminently clear he's now being hampered in his career. By all means keep him if we can learn how to get the best from him. Otherwise, there are plenty who will.
mortonjag 2006-12-10 19:04:50 It's a reasonable draw-thank goodness we've not got yet another 2nd or 3rd divison (or even a non SFL) side again.

I really don't see much point in speculating about the result-Killie should win-we COULD win-that's it.

It gives us an opportunity to test ourselves against a genuinely better side. That rarely happens in division 2, and Killie will play football, and hopefully allow us to do the same.

Win or lose, we'll certainly get at a wee bit extra money into Dougie's piggy bank, and hopefully will acquit ourselves well.

mortonjag 2006-12-10 19:09:41
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 10 2006, 06:52 PM) [snapback]210517[/snapback]

Firstly he has only just turned 21 he has a lot to learn, you can argue about form, where he should play etc. However you cannot fault his workrate and unlike some he does not go hiding and is far from a luxury . There are many players that should go before jim.

I agree with every single thing you have said Bryan-with one exception-IMO playing Jim in his current role IS a luxury we can't afford-if it can be sorted I'd love him to stay right here.
mortonjag 2006-12-10 19:11:17
QUOTE(princessTON @ Dec 10 2006, 06:48 PM) [snapback]210516[/snapback]

The portaloos were absolutely minging! ohmy.gif

And NOT flushed with success. mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-10 19:20:27
QUOTE(standman @ Dec 10 2006, 04:46 PM) [snapback]210468[/snapback]

I'd hire the Scottish Rockettes to entertain us next April at Scappa !!

What about you lot ?
Would you do anything for the Ton/supporters ?

It depends what you mean by 'A lot'. I'm dead serious about this-if I won enough, I'd hopefully convince Dougie Rae that I'm just as passionate as he is about my beloved Morton, and offer him a lifetime honorary chairmanship of the club, if he'd allow me to buy him out.

I would then-this assumes our present state-amicably part company with the current management (every man has his price)-employ someone with proven ability, and sit on my arse to savour the turnaround in our fortunes.

I might then even reveal my true identity, and stand up and let all of you myopes (who I know are just about to rip me to shreds) kiss it.
mortonjag 2006-12-10 19:27:29
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 10 2006, 07:18 PM) [snapback]210536[/snapback]

Lack of experince in midfield, having no fullbacks and not having a goal scorers are luxuries we can't afford, having jim in the team isn't

Careful Bryan-you're CRITICISING the status quo unsure.gif
I'll rephrase it-having Jim in the team at the expense of a competent left winger is a luxury we can't afford.
mortonjag 2006-12-10 19:55:04
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Dec 10 2006, 07:49 PM) [snapback]210567[/snapback]

I think that's what Jonaton was trying to say though....

He was there, but although in the stand, only 3 rows up which means he wouldn't have had much better a view of things than if he was in the dugout.

It's certainly a strange one.

I'm puzzled too, but it's probably quite simple. Martin Clark had been given the job of sussing out Annan, and he was probably being allowed responsibility for the day on that basis. Jim could have left the stand at any point, and Andy Bryan did trot to and fro a couple of times.

Or maybe Martin's going to take over for a few weeks while Jim's off to a residential crash course in football management for beginners! dry.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-10 20:04:12 It just seems to be a symptom of the lottery that is owning a football club. If the Hearts directors could have seen this coming they'd have run a mile I imagine. Hopefully some lessons will be learned within the Scottish game, but I guess that as long as somebody comes along with the money it's 'let the seller beware'.
mortonjag 2006-12-10 20:06:20
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Dec 10 2006, 08:02 PM) [snapback]210591[/snapback]

You trying to take the credit for my wisdom laugh.gif

Great minds--- sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-10 20:08:05
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Dec 10 2006, 08:03 PM) [snapback]210592[/snapback]

Mobile phones? Very few big managers spend the whole game in the dug out and generally only turn up in the 2nd half. We win 3-0 and we're still looking for negatives.

Touchy-we're only taking the piss-well kind of!! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-11 07:29:04 Oh for the old days, when you pissed in an empty beer can-I well remember folks used to 'politely' line them up on the terracing but they inevitably got kicked over.

One of my early memories is a game against the Tims at Scapa, and being astonished to witness the wee Dublin end terracing awash with urine which was pooling up behind the goal line.
mortonjag 2006-12-11 07:35:16
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 10 2006, 11:46 PM) [snapback]210652[/snapback]

And its a graph of what? Rate by year measuring what?

I'll explain it for you NewTON-it's a graph of the last four seasons-we're the top line and the bottom one's East Stirling!
mortonjag 2006-12-11 09:37:31
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 11 2006, 09:13 AM) [snapback]210689[/snapback]

But Killie are a really good side, and there's (apparently) rivalry - before my time, but rivalry nonetheless.

I think we'll get humped and it'll just show that a club of similar size to ourselves is streets ahead of us in every way. (Well, except debt: Killie are in a mess financially.) Depressing sad.gif

When I was a youngster, there was none of the Midden rivalry of nowadays, and many regarded Killie as our 'hate' team.

I'm surprised to hear you suggest we'll get humped-I agree we'll probably lose, but over the last few years against better teams (Dundee Utd/Livvi/Midden/St Johnstone) we've acquitted ourselves pretty well.
mortonjag 2006-12-11 09:56:54 If somebody had told me this time last year that Gre£na would be top, I'd just have said 'Money talks'-but PARTICK 2nd-I'd have pissed myself laughing.

So what does it all mean? In today's papers Thistle's McConalogue says they're up there 'because they're among the best of a bad lot'. He claims that there's little difference in squad ability throughout the division, and that they all tend to play a similar game.

It's hard to know what to think. Despite my repeated criticisms of the managerial side, I've often felt we would actually play better in the higher division even with the current squad. I'm NOT saying we'd be near the table top, but I regularly feel that in division 2 we are seen as ' a scalp', have to contend with spoiling tactics, and frequently fail to cope.

When we've been allowed to play football, we've usually done not too badly, and our performance against St Johnstone (who subsequently beat the Huns) was underrated by many.

So Mortonjag, in Christmas mood, is feeling strangely POSITIVE.

Mind you I just realised I forgot to take my grumpy pill this morning, so don't hold your breath for anything. wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-11 10:17:50 Paul Mathers-toupee
Jamie Stevenson-non-slip boots
Paul McGowan-false moustache and beard
Stuart Greacen-makeover
Chris Millar-magnifying mirror

If only I could buy Jimbo a left foot, and as for Mr McInally---I said he'll soon

BE 45

rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-11 10:20:47
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 11 2006, 10:17 AM) [snapback]210701[/snapback]

I thought we were poor against DU (and against Motherwell, at that.)

Killie are a very, very strong side, I can honestly see us shipping 4 or 5 to them.

You must be the most NEGATIVE poster on this board Nacho-take a leaf out of my book-always look on the bright side! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-11 10:23:05
QUOTE(mfc_millar_mfc @ Dec 11 2006, 10:19 AM) [snapback]210703[/snapback]

Were you not there at Ayr United last season ??

I had forgotten about that game, and it just goes to show a ref can't ever win!

He refereed a game at Scapa about four weeks ago-can't remember which, and I thought he was excellent.
mortonjag 2006-12-11 10:26:56
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Dec 11 2006, 10:23 AM) [snapback]210706[/snapback]

You're right, you haven't taken your grumpy pill this morning! laugh.gif tongue.gif

I've just fixed matters you cheeky young whippersnapper-right-here we go-

McINALLY MUST GO--NOW

mad.gif

mortonjag 2006-12-11 11:14:01
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 11 2006, 10:55 AM) [snapback]210709[/snapback]

I'm not negative, I'm realistic, back in my day... biggrin.gif

--when men were men and footballers took no prisoners--- smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-11 11:40:46
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Dec 9 2006, 10:20 PM) [snapback]210277[/snapback]

Communists suck.

Theres nothing romantic about torturing people for their religious beliefs.

what-not even masochistic Muslims? smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-11 11:53:31
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Dec 11 2006, 12:31 AM) [snapback]210658[/snapback]

We all can see the problems within the team . My only concern is that no matter who we sign in January if anyone is how long will it take JM to find his best position ?
My example Stevenson played through the middle for Alloa , played excellent , he was the standout player in their team we buy him and stick him on the right wing .
If McGowan goes then I think Cramb would be a fair shout ... but I think after 3 years in charge I don't think a team should have so many weaknesses.
Can McInally handle players that are abit mean and moody as we don't seem to have a dominant figure out on the park .

AND Kevin Finlayson did the same for Stranraer as Stevenson did for Alloa, AND Templeman was top scorer at Brechin-but chrissiboi I really think Jim's beginning to learn-after all he's put Paul Mathers IN GOAL !!!!!!!!!
mortonjag 2006-12-11 11:56:44
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 11 2006, 11:49 AM) [snapback]210723[/snapback]

You on a platter with a big apple shoved in your mouth.

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mortonjag 2006-12-11 12:20:01
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Dec 11 2006, 12:03 PM) [snapback]210732[/snapback]

If I had a lot of money there's no way I'd invest it in any football club, including Morton.

Not even if you were mega rich BH-I thought you were a Ton man!

BTW-when does Augusta get her first ride?
mortonjag 2006-12-11 12:23:40
QUOTE(Alibi @ Dec 11 2006, 12:15 PM) [snapback]210733[/snapback]

I reckon if we'd gone up last season, we'd be near the top of the first. We are a footballing side currently playing a load of hammer throwers week after week, teams that are packing 10 behind the ball most of the time. Only Annan have tried to have a go at us, and BTW I thought they were pretty good for a non-league team with some excellent passing at times. The games we lost, we were very unlucky in that the opposition got the breaks and we didn't.

Generally true but a wee bit unfair on a couple of our rivals I'd say.

Interested to see the major bookies still have us 1-4 to win outright though.
mortonjag 2006-12-11 12:28:39
QUOTE(Alibi @ Dec 11 2006, 12:23 PM) [snapback]210736[/snapback]

What a negative bunch you all are. We will win this one by four or five goals. Killie? Who the feck are Killie. Remember 1964-65 when they last won a title? We gubbed them 5-1 at Cappielow. The current Killlie team can't even beat the huns and you have to be pretty poor not to beat them.

I reckon we should bring a few reserves in for this one. In fact, Chris Templeman could beat them single handed if it weren't for the fact that he needs another player on the pitch to take the kickoff to. Bunch of fairies, Killie.

Nice dream Alibi-Jim Jefferies the fairy godmother in our festive panto! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-11 12:42:38 Although they have been excellent, they have struggled a bit in the last two matches, while the Beath are, IMO the form team.

It's a bit early for predictions perhaps, but it would not surprise me if we are four points ahead on Saturday evening.

Mind you there's still the dreadful possibility of us being two off the pace huh.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-11 12:47:08
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Dec 11 2006, 12:43 PM) [snapback]210739[/snapback]

Standman, if you couldn't get thr Rockettes would these filly's do?
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The one on the left's definitely gowser-who are the other three?
mortonjag 2006-12-11 12:59:46
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 11 2006, 12:53 PM) [snapback]210743[/snapback]

He is 17, he will be suffering burnout or will do if continues to play all season.

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I don't recall Jim Baxter, Denis Law or George Best suffering burnout as teenagers.

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And Willie Henderson was playing in the Huns first team at the age of 16, and scored the winning goal in a 3-2 victory over Wales in his international debut, aged 18.

Kinda puts things in perspective for Gowser.
mortonjag 2006-12-11 13:05:58
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 11 2006, 12:56 PM) [snapback]210745[/snapback]

The real form team is Stirling:

http://www.footballanorak.com/Scottish-Lea...rm-Guide-6.html

As you can see, they've won their last 6 league games (and their last 2 cup games, as well.)

I'd bet on them but I'm using my bets elsewhere this weekend.

Depends what criteria you use to assess form 'Nacho'.

Statistically Stirling may be ahead, but in terms of improvement they are static while the Blue Brazil have definitely come on to a game-you could see it coming at Cappielow-and they'll have plenty of belief on Saturday.
mortonjag 2006-12-11 13:50:12
QUOTE(Vialli_No7 @ Dec 11 2006, 11:56 AM) [snapback]210728[/snapback]

and sitting on a bed of 2nd division championship flag, served with a stuffing of Mc Inally's MotM certificates! laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2006-12-11 13:57:25
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 11 2006, 01:10 PM) [snapback]210748[/snapback]

Gidday mortonjag,

and we won't even mention Jim Forrest, who was born in Glasgow on 22 September, 1944.

So, he was only 19 ...

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Those were the days eh-NewTon-mind you I got to know Willie's parents well, and he would have played for Scotland at 14 if he could.

Mrs Henderson always described him as 'William' to me, and on one occasion when he was getting bad publicity, she said ruefully 'William's brains were always in his feet'.

He was very short sighted and wore contacts, and that, allied to his naivety and big wages earned some of his 'mates' a fortune in the Airdrie snooker hall.
mortonjag 2006-12-11 14:04:31
QUOTE(piehutt @ Dec 11 2006, 01:59 PM) [snapback]210767[/snapback]

mortonjag - I think you must have left your PC logged on at work or something.

what work piehutt-didn't you know I'm a gentleman of leisure? cool.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-11 14:12:01
QUOTE(piehutt @ Dec 11 2006, 01:56 PM) [snapback]210763[/snapback]

I don't think Stirling have been as convincing in their last couple of games, but I don't think I will bet against them.

I think there is more chance of us dropping points at Brechin unfortunately.

Talk of a Stirling collapse is wishful thinking at the moment given that they are on a decent run. We have a single point advantage and should concentrate on maintaining that on Sat.

I'm not suggesting for one minute that Stirling will collapse, but when we started dropping points people quickly latched onto the 'you're bound to go through a bad patch' stuff.

Well if that is the case, Stirling must be due theirs pretty soon, and it's obvious the Blue Brazil have made big strides recently.

As for us losing to Brechin-well one thing's for certain-we don't need to if we play our cards right-but then how often have we done that recently? Here's hoping.
mortonjag 2006-12-11 14:15:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 11 2006, 01:56 PM) [snapback]210764[/snapback]

There are fears as many as 23 homes have been destroyed by a bushfire burning along Tasmania's east coast.

The properties have been damaged in a blaze that has burnt more than 3,000 hectares in the township of Scamander, on Tasmania's north-east coast.

Break O'Day Council Mayor Robert Legge said he had heard reports up to 23 homes had been burnt.

"The information I've got at the moment is 22 or 23 houses," he told AAP.

Good to hear some big news NewTon-over here we're still mourning the death of a Russian Spy !
mortonjag 2006-12-11 14:46:04
QUOTE(dazza @ Dec 11 2006, 02:14 PM) [snapback]210774[/snapback]

I think chris is a good player but he needs to cut out a few things in his game. When he recieves a hard challenge he always gets up as if hes rocky balboa looking for a fight.

On saturday he crapped out of a tackle and wee mcgowan shouted at him, to which he replied and i quote (as i was standing right next to him)" who do you think your talking to ya wee c***" This is disgraceful behaviour from one of the more senior members of the team.

Do you think so? I would only judge him after hearing Gowser's comment.

Gordon Strachan seems to have just endorsed much more 'disgraceful' behaviour from a certain Mr (bitter) Lennon.
mortonjag 2006-12-11 18:11:43
QUOTE(SJ76 @ Dec 11 2006, 05:59 PM) [snapback]210817[/snapback]

Time for a positive thread I hope!

Just checking the leagues to see where Airdries win overGr£tna had put them and I notice (I blame the BBC for any inacuracies) that along with Septic we have +23, not bad for a team being constantly slated here over the past few weeks!

That is indeed a positive thread-but how do you explain the fact that so many posters are still demanding a 'striker' in favour of a steadying influence, when, as the previous poster has pointed out we've thrown so much away recently?
mortonjag 2006-12-11 20:40:08
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Dec 11 2006, 07:16 PM) [snapback]210838[/snapback]

I heard from usually reliable sources that Morton are definitely putting in a bid for Deuchar. Don't know if that means we're letting someone go, not signing a left back etc. people just seem convinced about Deuchar.

Surely DDFR is the most reliable source of all, or J Mc, and in the last match programme the former was effectively saying the coffers are closed for the time being, and the latter was finally admitting we need experience.

Have they suddenly come all over their pants because we drew Killie at home, and decided to spash the dosh on YET ANOTHER GOALSCORER.

That is NOT the priority IMO.
mortonjag 2006-12-11 20:48:18
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 11 2006, 07:40 PM) [snapback]210842[/snapback]

Another delusional thread. We've been in the second and third divisions for years now and been unable to get out.
You know, just thinking about it Morton could be Champions League winners in three seasons......

Your sarcasm is wasted DM, but thanks for the unconscious irony-I'm constantly slated for being 'the most negative poster on the board', yet when I state the possible, the obvious, and the reason DDFR's still shelling out, you try to score cheap points.

I realise that the Ton's last successful venture into the higher echelons was before your time-well let me tell you something-it was GREAT to be a Ton fan in those days-and those of us who remember them want them back ASAP.
mortonjag 2006-12-11 20:51:38
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Dec 11 2006, 08:03 PM) [snapback]210849[/snapback]

Sorry but I don't buy it. The main difference betwen Div 1 and 2 is that the hammer throwers tend to more professional in the 1st - hardly good news for any team that tries to play football.

Stop theorising-we beat St Johnstone by playing football, and all we needed at Broadwood was a couple of your hammer throwers to stabilise things and let us do the same.

We have the nucleus of a brilliant 1st division side at Cappielow-we just have to get things right.
mortonjag 2006-12-11 21:00:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 11 2006, 08:04 PM) [snapback]210850[/snapback]

'William's brains were always in his feet'.
I would give a fair slice of my brains to have feet like his.

feet of pure genius

I remember he scored in the 6-2 hammering of Spain.

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I know-it's sad really-I met him just after his dad's funeral-hard to believe but it's almost 20 years ago, and he was already a very sad, and broken guy-in fact I DO recall, it was just after the 86 world cup finals, and Alfie Conn was with him.

Anyway, the point I'm getting at is that modern players of his ability are effectively made for life because of the salary structures, Bosman, agents and so on.

Wee Jimmy Johnstone (whom I also knew back in the seventies) is another example of a guy who ended up with very little out of the game financially, and Slim Jim Baxter died in co-ownership flats just round the corner from here a few years back.
mortonjag 2006-12-11 21:15:17 That's not news-it was forecast ages ago-mind you I like the wee bit about the 'Well' not being too keen if they get relegated.

So now rich Mr Mileson wants his little bunch of bumpkins to shell out for a round trip of some 150 miles to see HOME games.

If he'd thought about it a bit harder, they'd almost be as well staying in the first division til Raydale's turned into Bernabeau.

Anyhow, I wonder how much he'll spend in the transfer window to hump St Johnstone et al for promotion just as he did to us last year. mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-11 21:29:45
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Dec 11 2006, 09:24 PM) [snapback]210880[/snapback]

Are you wired up to a Mars bar?

Nucleus as in 1 player I take it. Brilliant in the 1st but can't get out of the 2nd - 'we just have to get things right' - what f***ing insight laugh.gif

TBH even if I was wired to a Mars bar, as you put it, I could still see what Partick and Gretna have done this season.

If you disagree that we have a core of players capable of performing well at a higher level TT, you're entitled to your opinion, but you're at odds with general Scottish football opinion, and certainly with most division 2 managers.
mortonjag 2006-12-12 09:46:50
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 12 2006, 08:22 AM) [snapback]210948[/snapback]

cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Dec 12 2006, 08:20 AM) [snapback]210947[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
Correct he had 18 months left on his contract and is in getting a payoff.

if we could afford it he would be a great signing...

The way the Sun has put it-he'll be 'looking for a club' having effectively been told by Rotten Alexander he's surplus to requirements.

If that is so, and they have to give him a 'pay off' they can't charge us a signing fee.

I believe he would be the kind of player we've been lacking.
mortonjag 2006-12-12 09:51:17 Light at the end of the tunnel perhaps. Barry Smith and Steve Tosh-even their names give the squad more bite!

Forget the striker hysteria-I have a good feeling that sense is beginning to prevail.
mortonjag 2006-12-12 10:35:21
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 11 2006, 09:50 PM) [snapback]210884[/snapback]

None of this was sarcasm. I have no gripe with you. I don't give a s*** whether you're positive or negative, has no effect on me whatsoever.
This kind of post is X Factor syndrome. You know the kind of parent that tells their kids they can sing really, really well when in actual fact they are complete and utter bollocks and just that little off going to 'special' school.
The current Morton team is one of the poorest I have witnessed in 30 years. It's maybe not that much better than the team under Cowboy. If that team could do well in the First Division then Scottish football is in a hell of a state.

I've just had a wee look at your very defensive post DM, and thought the simplest thing was to address it point by point.

1/ If your comments about 'Champions League' were not intended to be sarcastic, and merely a STATEMENT OF POSSIBILITY, why the f*ck have you torn me to shreds for doing exactly the same? rolleyes.gif

2/ I commented that I was for once being positive, and you, who 'DOESN'T GIVE A s***' about my opinions, which 'HAVE NO EFFECT ON YOU WHATSOEVER' proceeded to attack my views with some gusto! unsure.gif

3/ Your convoluted analogy about X-factor, and kids who just miss out on special school equating to the current Ton squad puzzles me, but your subsequent (presumably explanatory) statement about the current team says more about your assessment of footballers than about the players themselves.

I have been extremely critical of team selection, tactics, and the lack of a motivator on or off the field Davie, but if you check my posts you will see that I have consistently stated that we have plenty of talent in the squad, an opinion shared by Scottish football managers in general.

You appear to mock me by pretending to be an ageing old man of 40-well that's as pessimistic as your post, or you've falsified your D.O.B. in your profile. When I spoke about Morton teams which were a joy to watch, I was referring to the 60' and 70's-a time when we could frequently give the OF as good as we got, and not to our somewhat erratic performances in the old Scottish Premier Division of your lifetime.

Mind you I've a sneaky wee feeling that you once did this kind of thing to me before, and then said you were at the 'wind up'. For a '40 year old man' who gets his rocks off over a wee photo of him in the Ton crowd though, I suppose anything is possible. smile.gif

What I've just said about you, good sir, is decidedly negative, but since that will have no effect on you whatsoever, I've probably been wasting my time. wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-12 10:44:33
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 12 2006, 10:07 AM) [snapback]210965[/snapback]

Yes, but nothing has linked us to tosh yet wink.gif

Correct Bryan-but at his stage in his career, he might well see a move to us as a very positive one where he can still shine AND have the probability of getting back into division 1. Anyway, I hope we're making enquiries-we're obviously close to Gretna over the Deuchar thing at the moment-no harm in speaking to the boy.
mortonjag 2006-12-12 10:59:49
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Dec 12 2006, 12:51 AM) [snapback]210924[/snapback]

I usually defend your corner when surmising the abilities of JM . So how can you even contemplate being a success at a higher standard .
When you look how far Gretna were infront of us in terms of experience and results when it really mattered . They scored goals for fun and when you think that Duechar has been replaced it shows you the strength in depth .
Admittedly Thistle were sketchy , but when it really mattered they shone through.
The 1st Division is a nothing much between them , but teams are full of individuals who have played at a higher level , we don't .
We have no strength in depth and the manager seems to be reluctant to even try some of the fringe players no matter what the form of some regular first team players. So when will these players deemed to be ready , surely if they haven't broke through and able to play in the 2nd you may as well jettison them if we do go up .
If we are so easily muscled out of games by part time players what is to stop teams doing the same . StJohnston was a good victory put a one off cup game should not be the basis of some sort of belief that we will storm the 1st Division .

Cool it man, I've not changed my previous opinions (on which we agree) in the slightest-I'm merely trying to be objective about our potential if we get the current situation fixed, and I DO NOT think we need a radical shake up of the squad as some suggest.

Even when others have been praising JM for good results, I've regularly pointed out that the performance on the park has been a lottery. When the boys (f*ck all to do with the manager IMO) turn it on, they ARE good, and we defeated a strong Motherwell side, and a virtually complete Gretna team in recent closed door matches-YOU JUST CAN'T DO THAT IF THE ABILITY'S LACKING.

Add Barry Smith, Steve Tosh, (and Deuchar if you really think we have to), and Mr McInally will start picking up every MOTM whether he deserves them or not.
mortonjag 2006-12-12 11:10:13
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Dec 11 2006, 11:46 PM) [snapback]210913[/snapback]

sad as it is, I hope they are related otherwise we are lokinking for multiple killers.

The record for mass murder involving Prostitutes is 48 by the green river murderer whom was caught 20 yrs later when DNA came into the fray.

Other famous cases were Peter Sutcliffe, Ted Bundy, Bible John and the Worlds end murderer still at large oh and dont forget the Jack the ripper whom was rumoured to be a member of the Monarcy at the time.

You seem to have a more than average interest in such matters Bawheid-been in England recently? wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-12 11:27:16 Bill Leckie in today's Sun (which I only get for the football, page 3, and in case of a national shortage of bum paper) heaps praise on 'Honest Steven' Purcell, the good 34 year old cellic fan who heads up the cooncil here, for coming out.

Leckie normally tears everybody to shreds-what's in it for you Billy boy?
mortonjag 2006-12-12 11:36:06
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken's Love Child @ Dec 12 2006, 11:27 AM) [snapback]210985[/snapback]

Agreed, there has to be something sinister to this!

Not necessarily-Mr Mileson has taken steps to reduce surplus running costs, and the squad is top heavy (hence the Deuchar situation), so somebody has to go. No doubt there will be one or two particular reasons for it being Steve rather than somebody else, but that doesn't make it sinister.
mortonjag 2006-12-12 11:47:21
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Dec 12 2006, 11:37 AM) [snapback]210989[/snapback]

what's the point of this thread exactly? is it about bill leckie, the cooncillor or yourself?

Somebody always bites on the 'gay' issue-do you have a problem with my thread?

I started it because I'm interested to hear what people think-is that not the purpose of the board, or have I missed something?

I HATE Glasgow councillors almost as much as I HATE cheapskate gossipmongers like Leckie.

The fact that Purcell has 'come out' IS controversial, whether you love poofs, hate them, or, like me, don't give a f*ck! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-12 11:53:22
QUOTE(Vialli_No7 @ Dec 12 2006, 11:42 AM) [snapback]210991[/snapback]

What's wrong with you?? blink.gif

First of all you make positive (overly positive many say) comments about our chances this season and next. Now you are resisting the opportunity to have a go at Mileson and have even defended him from accusations of corruptness.

Confused ohmy.gif

I lied yesterday-the chemist's been out of grumpy pills for two days now-the withdrawal symptoms are getting almost unbearable-I keep seeing JM's beaming mugshot from the matchday programme and want to kiss him and stuff-worse stuff-but not suitable for those hallowed pages! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-12 11:56:26
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Dec 12 2006, 11:53 AM) [snapback]210996[/snapback]

Stirling will definately win on Saturday. They're going to get a few poor results this season but not yet. They'll win by at least a couple of goals.

I'll be delighted to be proved wrong.

Always expect the unexpected SH- this is going to be the Blue Brazil's day-I promise you-all the omens are right.
mortonjag 2006-12-12 12:06:21
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Dec 12 2006, 11:58 AM) [snapback]210998[/snapback]

Tosh showed his class and experience against us last year , would be an experienced head which we don't have enough of . Deuchar if you supply him with the crosses he would obviously deliver the goals that could make the new year abit easier on the nerves. We would however have to start get behind defences more to maximise the threat of the Doctor.
I thought Mileson was abit quiet recently , obviously even his generousity has it's limits .
This is the huge stumbling block to any team who do not fit the criteria of the SPL . How long can a team with such a little support , rely on one mans wealth.

I've laid off the old llama lover recently-he's not been well and is still recovering from fairly major surgery I believe.

He delegated the financial matters some time ago, and I guess he's not been nearly so 'hands on' of late.

Nothing of course changes the complete idiocy of his concept, and the latest ground sharing thing puts it in stark perspective.

If Alexander bleats for more players in the transfer window, though, I guarantee he'll get them.
mortonjag 2006-12-12 12:08:16
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Dec 12 2006, 12:02 PM) [snapback]210999[/snapback]

Something a little off about that statement.

BH you are a BENDER of words-explain yourself! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-12 12:16:01
QUOTE(Edinton @ Dec 12 2006, 12:09 PM) [snapback]211002[/snapback]

Aye nothing sinister, at least according to the BBC. Although they do describe Tosh as a striker so it shows they're as on the ball as ever when it comes to all matters Scottish.... dry.gif

Is it perhaps a sign that the 'fairytale' is starting to end? The fact that they are cost-cutting despite being top of the league surely isn't a good sign if they go up......?

But re Tosh, I can see him going to another 1st division club, although I can't imagine Gretna would be particularly happy about that.....so yeah lower reaches of SPL or us would appear to be the obvious choices.

Edited to add - the sooner Dr. Goals starts scoring again then the sooner Jeff Stelling on Sky Sports will be a happy man again, he loves the 'good doctor'!

I'll tell you this, if he handles his patients like he does opposing defenders, he'll be up before the G.M.C. in a jiffy. Can you imagine THAT as your wife's gynaecologist? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-12 12:18:49
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Dec 12 2006, 12:09 PM) [snapback]211003[/snapback]

what's controversial about it?

Nothing at all-it happens every day-sorry to have bothered you. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-12 12:35:28
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Dec 12 2006, 12:27 PM) [snapback]211008[/snapback]

GUY'S MARRIAGE BREAKS UP

big f***ing deal.

GAY'S MARRIAGE BREAKS UP

big f***ing Glesca cooncillor
mortonjag 2006-12-12 13:10:47
QUOTE(MIFTHEBINO @ Dec 12 2006, 01:01 PM) [snapback]211016[/snapback]

I am feeling a bit nervous about this one as Cowden are a good team on their day (see Cowden humping in Cup earlier in the season). I will be hoping for full points as we are at home, but I think we will draw!
Hopefully Brechin can do us a favour and beat you though!

Those are both good coupon draws IMO, MIF, but Beath have a lot of belief at the moment-you'll be up against it. As for us-if we play as we can we'll scoosh it-BUT--- sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-12 13:21:04
QUOTE(MIFTHEBINO @ Dec 12 2006, 12:59 PM) [snapback]211013[/snapback]

Stirling Albion could be in the SPL in two seasons too-aye right!!

Why not-do you think you are much worse than the present first division. I reckon your potential fanbase is as big as if not bigger than half of them.

Survival up there would be more difficult for you than us, purely in financial terms, but if Gretna, and Livvi, and Clyde and the likes think they can cut it, why couldn't you? Inverness doesn't have a HUGE fanbase either.
mortonjag 2006-12-12 13:25:48
QUOTE(StenhousemuirBuddie @ Dec 12 2006, 12:54 PM) [snapback]211011[/snapback]

Barry is in the middle of a 2 year deal with Valur in Iceland is just training with Morton as he is living with his in-laws in Paisley and he is pals with your manager.

Any loan deal will be on the same timescale and Henrik Larrsson and Man Utd. Jan 01st until March 10th.

Unless Valur agree to release Barry from the remaining year of his contract, which he hasn't decided on yet.

In any event, at least 2 First Division clubs have asked him to keep them advised of his thoughts and to speak to them before he makes his mind up.

So it is not a done deal that Barry will sign for you guys, although he really enjoys training and says you have the nucleus of a good young squad.

Nucleus of a good young squad-nonsense man-who does he think he is, a professional footballer or something?

pp DAVIE McARTHUR
mortonjag 2006-12-12 13:33:01
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Dec 12 2006, 01:22 PM) [snapback]211021[/snapback]

It was general Scottish football opinion that we would be in the 1st 3 seasons ago and 2 seasons ago and indeed last season but unfortunately promotion is not won on who looks best on paper. The current team are at best an average bunch of players with few exceptions.

Anything is possible in this world but I can't see that this team/manager have what it takes to secure 2 promotions in 2 years.

Have you just seen the quote from Barry Smith via Stenhousemuir Buddie? All I said was that we have the nucleus of a successful 1st division side but need to rectify other matters.

I always have a problem with posts which fail to address the real issue TT-the one unproven factor in those previous seasons was McInally's ability-people expected much more from him with what they perceived as a talented squad at his disposal.
mortonjag 2006-12-12 13:36:17
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Dec 12 2006, 01:26 PM) [snapback]211024[/snapback]

just because the guy's decided he's into guys doesn't make it any more interesting.

Really! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-12 13:44:01
QUOTE(Vialli_No7 @ Dec 12 2006, 12:50 PM) [snapback]211010[/snapback]

I see him as an honest and witty journalist who knows his sport, loves his team and who champions the provincial club over the Old Firm everytime.
I've never thought of Bill Leckie as a " gossipmonger " ohmy.gif

Now that is controversial.

Sorry Vialli-I was out of order-believe it or not I DON'T read the Sun on a regular basis, and only got it today because 44TT had mentioned an article about Deuchar-and I happened to spot the piece about Stephen Purcell.

This is NOT about homosexuals' right to equality in the workplace though-it's about a guy who has been voted into office on the basis of being a happily married man. Now-top of his tree at the tender age of 34- he 'comes out'.

As far as I can see that's controversial.
mortonjag 2006-12-12 14:02:39
QUOTE(Rodder @ Dec 12 2006, 01:44 PM) [snapback]211032[/snapback]

Nope

Really?

So what's your agenda?

I'm heterosexual-I've got four brothers. One of them is gay, and has lived with his partner for over twenty years.
We go to every Morton match together, and are also best mates.

Homosexual males often marry women without having fully accepted their true sexuality. I have every sympathy with that, but that is not the point here.

Stephen Purcell is, at 34, leader of the largest local authority in the country. Until last week, only a few were aware of his secret, but he has now chosen to clear the air for whatever reason.

If he had openly achieved this success as a gay man, I and a substantial proportion of Glasgow voters would have seen that as a forward step.

The manner and timing of his 'outing', however, DO make this issue controversial.
mortonjag 2006-12-12 14:07:33
QUOTE(piehutt @ Dec 12 2006, 01:59 PM) [snapback]211034[/snapback]

I think the point is that we lack a prolific goal scorer - who can get maybe 20-25 goals in a season.

So far our top scorers have been Weatherson - a full back - and McGowan - who is on loan and not scored much of late. Neither are exactly troubling the leagues top scorer charts.

I would like to see someone chipping in with goals more regularly, ideally Lilley or Temps, as it gives us a set plan to work to.

Spoonsy was, is, and always will be a striker.
mortonjag 2006-12-12 14:20:36 Are you thick, or just deliberately acting the goat-when did a substantial proportion become a 'majority' ?

I'VE openly stated my situation regarding the gay issue let's hear YOURS.

Purcell will be viewed by many as a cheat and liar-others will see him as a pervert-you know as well as I do that homophobia still abounds.

Possibly he has acted at every point in his career in a manner which he regarded as fair and honest, and this is simply a finalising of the issue.

Fine, but don't start giving me all the usual defensive pish and try to pretend that the headline 'HEAD OF COUNCIL DITCHES WIFE FOR GAY LOVER' doesn't get the eyebrows raised and tongues wagging.
mortonjag 2006-12-12 15:13:21
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 12 2006, 02:24 PM) [snapback]211055[/snapback]

I'd be far more concerned with how he runs his council than how he runs his personal life, were I a Glasgow resident.

So am I-that's NOT the point-he is trying to argue that the issue is not controversial.
mortonjag 2006-12-12 15:15:31
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Dec 12 2006, 02:28 PM) [snapback]211057[/snapback]

what a dick.

As I expected, when you're quite reasonably asked to state your agenda you deflect. If you can't follow your posts through you'd be better not posting in the first place.
mortonjag 2006-12-12 15:17:08
QUOTE(Rodder @ Dec 12 2006, 02:12 PM) [snapback]211044[/snapback]

If he was managing to cope with the demands of his job whilst keeping this a secret then I don't see it as controversial.

Other high flyers in the councils and government have done far worse than him in their private life and been caught out, that is controversial. This guy has done the decent thing and came clean before some rag started a scandal.

Fair enough-your stating your opinion-I happen to disagree.
mortonjag 2006-12-12 15:22:35
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Dec 12 2006, 03:15 PM) [snapback]211076[/snapback]

A Councillor named Purcell,
Was going through a personal hell,
His wife through him out,
Cause his arse he did tout,
For 10 quid his bum he would sell.
At least that's the word up here in Glesca! rolleyes.gif ohmy.gif rolleyes.gif

I think that's extremely unfair,
Unless of course you have been there.
The price of his bum
Is an undisclosed sum
And honestly I couldn't care. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-12 15:27:19
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Dec 12 2006, 02:09 PM) [snapback]211043[/snapback]

Except the whole problem of him not being a striker until we signed him, he was an attacking midfielder at Queens.

Striker/consistent goal scorer-take your pick-he is better at scoring goals than at defending.
mortonjag 2006-12-13 07:15:24
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 12 2006, 06:18 PM) [snapback]211117[/snapback]

the good 34 year old cellic fan who heads up the cooncil here, for coming out.

Whit, mortonjag, has this bloke admitted that he supports Celtic Football Club ??

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

NewTon-he's heid o' the cooncil in Glesca-a 'good' calf lick boy-and lists as his interests, football, music, and reading.

You can draw your own conclusions! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-13 07:28:53
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 12 2006, 03:29 PM) [snapback]211086[/snapback]

To that poem sir, I raise a toast
But there's something that troubles me most
If we must be aware
That you really don't care
Then I must ask, why did you post?

I'm going to be honest today,
I'm just a frustrated old Gay
I envy his luck 'cos I've not had a f*ck
Nor a hard-on for many a day

So hats off to brave Stephen Purcell
I think he's done awfully well
To exit the closet and keep his deposit
Without someone 'ringing the bell'.
mortonjag 2006-12-13 08:05:23
QUOTE(bobby @ Dec 11 2006, 11:29 PM) [snapback]210911[/snapback]

More s***e spoken by our panel of 'football' experts...

Care to voice an opinion yourself? mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-13 08:16:10
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 12 2006, 08:13 PM) [snapback]211150[/snapback]

You don't understand my point re@ X Factor. I am drawing similarities between the cheerleading fans on here and the parents of X Factor applicants. Over praising this current bunch of players is what I'm on about. Just as parents tell their offspring they can sing some on here reckon Alex Walker or some other are top notch footballers. It happened on the old board with Craig Coyle, some were praising him as the best keeper in the league, some were even saying he could play in the SPL!!! To paraphrase Paul McCartney, he wasn't even the best keeper at Morton and found his level (actually it was still too high) at Arbroath.

Don't recall doing anything to you before and certainly won't whilst an ounce of strength remains in my body!!
Generally don't do wind-ups and speak my mind whilst posting under my own name, something you might want to try.
I was of course kidding about my photo being on the website and you are a cretin if you thought I was genuinely excited by it.

Still nowt against you personally and hope you enjoy the forthcoming Festive Period.

You've certainly offered an explanation for your 'X factor' comment Davie, but I think it was pretty irrelevant in the context of my previous post.

I apologise if my deja vu was actually faux pas.

I confess also to Cretinism, and will hasten to the nearest endocrinologist for treatment.

I am ashamed to post under my real name-but shh-whisper it-Richard Aitken (known to my friends as Dick).
mortonjag 2006-12-13 08:40:49
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Dec 13 2006, 07:19 AM) [snapback]211224[/snapback]

the main conclusion i have drawn from this thread is your total dickness.

The word 'Dick' has a certain charm for you-suck on that! cool.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-13 08:48:13
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Dec 13 2006, 01:38 AM) [snapback]211211[/snapback]

Did anyone read the letters page from Tuesday the 12's edition .
A letter from DDFR in response to last weeks article about attendances.
Dougie was rather scathing at the Headline from the front page was insinuated that the Chairman was getting at supporters about a lack of commitment.
DDFR writes that he would not criticise supporters infact he said they were his inspiration in doing so much more than he had originally intended.
He condemns the retoric of the ' tabloid ' journalism .
There was no reply to the letter. Make them pay at the gate Dougie for such impertinance.

Don't get the 'Tilly' here, so I haven't read his actual comments, but I do still have a copy of the offending matchday programme.

He was most certainly 'having a go', and quite clearly saying 'if you lot won't do more, neither will I'.

If he's so indecisive that he's publicly reversed his statement within a couple of weeks, that adds fuel to my burning suspicion that he also meddles with team selections.
mortonjag 2006-12-13 08:53:46
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Dec 13 2006, 01:30 AM) [snapback]211209[/snapback]

_________________Wylie

Hilton___Pressley___Archdeacon___McGrain

Spears______Edmonds____Rae___Bunton

_______Alexander___Jeff Stelling

Probably a bit exposed on the right side but good enough to clinch the 2nd division.

Undoubtedly, but is Emma not still under contract elsewhere?
mortonjag 2006-12-13 08:59:05
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Dec 13 2006, 01:23 AM) [snapback]211208[/snapback]

You have listed several good points as to why we need someone who will not only get us over the line but out of site . I thought he was excellent last term and is obviously still influential in the first division .
Gretna have finally realised that they can't afford such high earners , don't think we'll get him either as the money for signings will have to go on more problamatic areas of the team .
We have an inbalance of first team players , you have the quandry with the fullbacks with any replacement also not natural fullbacks. Centre halves our only option is to move Weatherson . The midfield has abundant cover the regular 4, Millar , McLaughlin,Stevenson and McAllister . Then you have Finlayson , Walker , Russell you could even push Keenan in there . Upfront Lilley , Bambi and McGowan if he is still with us.
We are bereft of adequate cover front and back so probably Smith would be a better signing .

TBH if Weatherson can be praised for his undoubtedly adequate performance in defence despite being so obviously out of position, I'm certain Tosh could fit in as a deep midfielder.

There's very little point in agonising over having to drop others. The squad desperately needs strengthened physically and psychologically, and if we can get him we must IMO.
mortonjag 2006-12-13 09:18:31
QUOTE(Alibi @ Dec 13 2006, 09:00 AM) [snapback]211234[/snapback]

Being a Cellic fan, does this Purcell guy by any chance come from Limerick?

Those wee rhymes are brilliant. Exactly what Robert Burns would have written had he been on this forum.


Haw Stevie, oor prowd cooncil Queen
N'er fash ye if yer foreskin's green
The best laid schemes o' mice an' men
Gang aft agley.
The weemin bring but grief an' pain
Dae it YER way
mortonjag 2006-12-13 09:24:11
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Dec 13 2006, 09:11 AM) [snapback]211237[/snapback]

I had posted this elsewhere on the Morton board as he had put it on the official website:

http://www.gmfc.net/chairman/news-view.asp?id=22

Thanks-in fairness he didn't BLAST the fans, but he's happy enough to hype up his sweetie ads-that's publicity for you Dougie.
mortonjag 2006-12-13 09:26:20
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Dec 13 2006, 09:24 AM) [snapback]211241[/snapback]

Come on guys, Templeman and Deuchar up front together? Both of these guys are very slow, you can't have two slow guys up front... I personally think that would be a terrible frontline. If Deuchar was to come in Templeman would have to drop to the bench, which based on his scoring record, is where he should be.

F*cking doctors-always the old school tie and jobs for the boys.
mortonjag 2006-12-13 09:32:26 Much Adu about nothing.
mortonjag 2006-12-13 09:46:55 This guy probably doesn't care too much if he gets caught, and I reckon they'll nab him soon.

He's gone about his business in a totally callous gung ho fashion-almost all serial killers go to great lengths to cover their tracks-but he seems to be craving Jack the Ripper publicity more than anything.

As usual the polis have made themselves look stupid by telling hookers to 'stay off the streets', when all those lassies care about is getting money for their next fix.
mortonjag 2006-12-13 10:09:55
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Dec 12 2006, 05:53 PM) [snapback]211113[/snapback]

The amount of remuneration between an employee and their employer should not be the focus of a discussion on a public board. If you were out toiling at whatever you do, how would you like your wages to be talked about in a public forum. It could possibly create jealousy and/or resentment, or much amusement, at the amounts involved.

There is an argument that footballers are in the public domain and therefore fair game for discussion. However, I think that this is a fatuous argument and should be rejected. Where does it stop - anyone want to know what the chief exec earns, the programme sellers etc. etc. - where do you draw the line?

Wage differentials have caused jealousy, resentment, and amusement for years.

IMO a man should be worthy of his hire, and if he's doing an honest day's graft, he shouldn't care if others know what the boss is willing to shell out.

Employees in the public sector have their wages published, and it only takes a skim through the 'jobs' pages of any national broadsheet to get a good idea about the rest.

If we ARE topping up gowser's pay packet, Cellic should not, as some have suggested, be calling the shots about when he does and doesn't play.
mortonjag 2006-12-13 10:21:01 Surely a lot will depend on what the player wants. I believe he works two days a week at Stirling Royal, but don't know where he currently lives-his Dad's a GP in Fife.

If Kenny still thinks he can 'cut it' at a higher level, he'll probably avoid a division 2 club. He's fully qualified, registered with the G.M.C., and keeping up to date with medicine, so he can wait as long as he likes before quitting full-time football.
mortonjag 2006-12-13 10:28:33
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Dec 13 2006, 10:22 AM) [snapback]211259[/snapback]

He comes from Denny (Stirlingshire) my brothers girlfriend lives there and my brother sees him quite a bit.

Big Stirling connection by the sound of it-maybe the Binos will get him.
mortonjag 2006-12-13 10:32:12
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Dec 13 2006, 10:18 AM) [snapback]211257[/snapback]

I do sympathise with DDFR here.

He took over when we were on the brink, thanks to Mr S****. The club's been stabilised since then, with the team looking more likely than ever to get back into the First Division.

Yeah, there's been more than a few mistakes along the way (3 failed promotion bids, wrong player choices etc), but the club IS top of the league this season, something we couldn't do at all last season. If we get one or two of the players we're being linked with in the transfer window, we'll have an ever better chance of staying top as well.

At the end of the day, what's happened in the past (whether its bad or good) doesn't matter one jot. We are top the league NOW and we should be supporting the team as much as we can to help ensure we stay there. It is then up to the players and management to make sure that the support we give them is turned into points on the board and another league title for the 'ton come the end of April.

IF something goes wrong and we don't go up this season, then those doubters have every right to say 'told you so'. But, please leave that 'til April when everything is done and dusted.

That's a reasonable post Naitch, but a point that seems to have totally missed Dougie is that the fans WILL turn out if they think that what's on show is worth paying for-and that's outwith THEIR control.
mortonjag 2006-12-13 11:00:23
QUOTE(Alibi @ Dec 13 2006, 09:00 AM) [snapback]211234[/snapback]

Being a Cellic fan, does this Purcell guy by any chance come from Limerick?

Those wee rhymes are brilliant. Exactly what Robert Burns would have written had he been on this forum.

I've always thought the Limerick is the funniest way to do poetry-usually the more irreverent the better
My all time favourite

A sweet little lady named Hunt
Exclaimed-with a horrified grunt
I sat on that chair
When my wallies were there
And I think I've just eaten my c*nt.

I wonder if any other board bards can come up with some about the Ton?

An elderly chairman called Rae
Quit the closet to state he was gay
You may wonder why
No one batted an eye
But I'm told it's the 'in thing' today. dry.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-13 11:03:35
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Dec 13 2006, 10:50 AM) [snapback]211269[/snapback]

Possibly but Denny is nearer Falkirk and he played with them. it does raise a point that I don't think has been brought up yet- if the good Dr Deuchar still works at a hospital wonder what Morton would make of this if he did come- after all we knocked back two other players who played part time.

He's probably just working two 'sessions' a week-which equates to some eight hours, and he can probably fit that in with full time football.
mortonjag 2006-12-13 11:04:59
QUOTE(porTONian @ Dec 13 2006, 10:47 AM) [snapback]211267[/snapback]

AH! But my information didn't come from the papers.

I was told weeks ago that Barry was signing for us. His wife couldn't settle in Iceland (should have went to Farmfoods laugh.gif )and he was taking a drop in wages to come back

NEVER believe everthing a wife tells you.
mortonjag 2006-12-13 11:31:28
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 13 2006, 11:22 AM) [snapback]211278[/snapback]

"You don't care", you say, all aloof
But I'm hardly convinced it's the truth
A Shakespearean touch:
You doth protest too much
Face it - you crave dick, ya poof.


Young Sir, I'm inclined to admit
That I'm not keen on fanny or tit
But the willie gets tender
from years as a bender
And now I'm just not up to it sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-13 11:35:34
QUOTE(upaclose @ Dec 13 2006, 11:25 AM) [snapback]211279[/snapback]

Have you heard of the guy Mortonjag?
Who thinks he's a bit of a wag?
To be perfectly blunt
He's a bit of a c***
And probably never had a shag.

Boom fkn boom


I'm led to believe there are those
Who always end up with a dose
I'm much more discreet
I'm kind to my seat
And I've never been shagged up a close. smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-13 11:43:24
QUOTE(porTONian @ Dec 13 2006, 11:16 AM) [snapback]211277[/snapback]

PLEASE, Give me a bit of credit. I'm not that stupid.

You'll go far! wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-13 12:06:22
QUOTE(Alibi @ Dec 13 2006, 11:47 AM) [snapback]211292[/snapback]

My favourite, although it may not be a true 5 line limerick is:

There was a young lady from Buckingham,
Who sat on a bridge at Uppingham,
watching the stunts
of the c*nts in the punts,
and the tricks of the pricks who were f*cking them.
This thread is the sort of thing that Offside would pick up on, if they still scour the web for content.

Hi Alibi-that immediately reminded me of

A young cockney scrubber from Tottenham
Her manners?- well she'd quite forgotten 'em
While employed at the Vicars
She ripped off her knickers
Then claimed she had felt far too hot in 'em
mortonjag 2006-12-13 12:23:38
QUOTE(otter @ Dec 13 2006, 12:12 PM) [snapback]211303[/snapback]

Why shouldn't he hype up his sweetie ads? Makes sense to me, the better his sweetie company do the better it is for Morton. Why don't you see that?

Phil.

The future's bright.....

Of course I see it-the point I'm making is that in the same way as he tells you on the back page of the programme you can't live without 'Buchanan's' toffees-the publishers of the 'Tilly' have to sell their rag.

'Dog bites man' is not news-'Man bites dog' is.
mortonjag 2006-12-13 12:27:10
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Dec 13 2006, 12:11 PM) [snapback]211302[/snapback]

So is the ton’s place up there in Inverclyde then
Never been so don’t know if its there or at b.o.w

It is indeed in Inverclyde, at Quarrier's village. The Renfrewshire-Inverclyde boundary is half way between Quarrier's and Bridge of Weir.
mortonjag 2006-12-13 13:10:40
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Dec 13 2006, 12:45 PM) [snapback]211308[/snapback]

The general belief elsewhere is that he will sign for QoS.
And that Gretna may be pretty screwed - shame, that.

Much bigger thread about Tosh.

WOW-VERY interesting stuff in there-for once I don't need to comment!
mortonjag 2006-12-13 13:32:45
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Dec 13 2006, 09:45 AM) [snapback]211250[/snapback]

Ah - that would be a problem (which I mentioned in my last post).
If Gretna were in the SPL and Motherwell in the 1st, Well would still get priority use of the ground if both were at home on the same day, Gretna could not guarentee that all games would be played on the correct day and that is unacceptable in the eyes of the SPL.

I've just read the link you pasted on the other board AT-extremely interesting.

In particular I was heartened to hear my long voiced opinions of Alexander echoed by those who have to suffer the arrogant prick.

It's getting harder and harder to believe in the master plan or the 'living the dream' s***e we had to tolerate from the press as Mileson raped us last season.

F*CK ME' nearly 2 million of a loss to get into division 2-no accounts for last year available yet, kicking out their best player, and haven't got Raydale ready for the SPL.

Rumours of Alexander being told by Mileson to lose games and avoid promotion this season.

Mileson is EXTREMELY rich. He claims he's in this for fun, and he wants Gretna to go right to the top, yet he's indulging in 'cost cutting exercises designed to make the club more self sufficient' when he KNOWS the club will NEVER be self sufficient, and that such savings are miniscule relative to his assets.

I'm more puzzled than ever-what IS this guy's agenda, or did he lose his marbles in the course of amassing his fortune? sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-13 13:49:42 There was a young lady named Rhoda
who maintained an immoral pagoda
She lived off the wrecks of the opposite sex
'Til they could no longer afford her

This guy was convicted, as I understand it, of 'living off immoral earnings'.

I'd like to know if he really WAS exploiting those girls-he certainly seems to have helped them to avoid working the streets, and his wee shop seemed popular with the punters.

Always the dual morality in those things-but I must confess the excuses are absolutely hilarious.
mortonjag 2006-12-13 14:01:33
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Dec 13 2006, 01:20 PM) [snapback]211315[/snapback]

Content? This confirms my belief that Offside is well worth missing.

PS I am told that it is a guy from Gourock that writes the script. He should be outed!

One man's meat, as they say, is another man's poisson-presumably your humourless nature is what spawned your screen name-or was it just the B.O? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-13 14:43:08 If that's plagiarism, you've seen my reply-have a good hard chew -HT.

If there's anything more intelligent hiding in there it seems to have got lost.
mortonjag 2006-12-14 09:12:33
QUOTE(WullTon @ Dec 14 2006, 08:51 AM) [snapback]211445[/snapback]

Heard he was leaving Millwall ot ocme back to scotland in january , do you think he could do a job for us or would he be like Mahood when he returned.

They are totally different personalities-anybody who thought Mahood would become a 'leader' was deluded. He set a tremendous example to others by his attitude (Scott McLaughlin's a bit like a young Mahood) but was always quiet.

McInnes was playing mind games with Gazza and others at a tender age-he was a born leader, and players don't lose that quality. His fitness could be a stumbling block but otherwise I'd have him back ASAP.
mortonjag 2006-12-14 09:30:29
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Dec 13 2006, 08:48 PM) [snapback]211410[/snapback]

it wouldn't really make much difference whether brothels are legalised. most of the girls on the streets are junkies, and no-one in their right mind employs junkies. it would be more effective to have designated red light areas with cameras monitoring every car going in, and where the police actually protect these women rather than persecute them.

they're still going to get raped, beaten up and murdered every now and again, though. nutjobs know these women are the easiest targets.

I agree with your latter point about proper police protection, but surely the idea of legal and properly monitored prostitution, as abroad, would attract a new breed of 'sex worker'.

Everybody has an individual moral take on issues like this, but most men who use hookers would surely prefer a comfy session indoors with a girl who has been checked for HIV etc., to a hugely hazardous quickie in the back of the car.
mortonjag 2006-12-14 09:38:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 14 2006, 07:27 AM) [snapback]211440[/snapback]

LOL!!!

LOL ? ?

lick other loins ??

huh.gif huh.gif

BH is never that gentle with me NewTon-HE better than most knows me as a Licentious Old Layabout-mind you the board itself's become rather dissolute methinks, when our Lord and Maister resorts to terms like 'YA POOF' !! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-14 11:27:16
QUOTE(Torro @ Dec 14 2006, 09:28 AM) [snapback]211452[/snapback]

Link above takes you to a Herald out of date page !?

but mcnally confirms hes had no contact at all with gretna over duecher in last nights tele , although he did seem to know quite a lot about the good doctors wage demands and how much Gretna would want for the player ?!

He also states that he is looking for a striker - " someone who can run through the middle and score goals " , and that they are in talks with celtic re extending mcgowans contract till the end of the season.

Correct me if I'm wrong. but a player who has been doing just that this season (when permitted) is Weatherson.
mortonjag 2006-12-14 11:41:26
QUOTE(ianton @ Dec 14 2006, 09:47 AM) [snapback]211458[/snapback]

it's not a good idea to bring back players ready to be pensioned off to their old clubs.just look at the one we have now.does that not tell you everything.

No, it does not. What you've described does tend to happen, but it's not invariable. Their are plenty of examples of succesful returns to one's first senior club.

Hal Stewart had players in their late thirties and I'm sure Bobby Evans was 40 plus, in the resurgence of the Ton in the early sixties., and in those days they were part timers without wonderful modern training regimes.

There's unfortunately NO substitute for experience.
In any walk of life-talented youngsters need encouragement, and the chance to learn more from old heads, but that applies particularly to the football field.

The signing of Paul Mathers I hope will prove to be an astute move for exactly those reasons, and if we can get Derek McInnes, or any 'McInnes' type for that matter, we'll start to see the best of those younger lads-AND on a regular basis.
mortonjag 2006-12-14 11:53:00 We've all had our favourites over the years, but it seems ages since I last drove to a game expecting to be thrilled and entertained by ONE individual.

Andy McLaren was exciting at times but too inconsistent.

When I think back though to players like Allan McGraw, Eric Sorensen, Joe Harper, Jim Holmes, and the INIMITABLE sleeping giant Andy Ritchie, I feel pretty nostalgic.

The good old days-eh! sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-14 11:58:00 That's a nice post and good luck to Youngs.

Mind you the credit card companies make a fortune out of stereotypical numbskulls and their signatures. sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-14 12:13:11
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Dec 14 2006, 11:57 AM) [snapback]211478[/snapback]

Totally agree.

Another thread about him joining us is just a joke huh.gif

If he hadn't played for us we wouldn't even look at him and anyone who thinks we need a injury prone midfielder needs their head examined ohmy.gif

On the 'injury prone' issue, you're possibly right-what about the personality, experience, and motivation issue-we definitely need A 'McInnes', WM
mortonjag 2006-12-14 12:29:35 [quote name='mortonslag' date='Dec 14 2006, 12:17 PM' post='211490']
I do. biggrin.gif
You talk utter tripe. smile.gif
[/quote
Munx says he's no playin' unless he can whisper in his ear!
mortonjag 2006-12-14 12:33:56
QUOTE(mortonslag @ Dec 14 2006, 12:13 PM) [snapback]211483[/snapback]

On a downer again!
What a surprise, do you get any visitors?
Spending xmas alone cursing the days when we used to have a white xmas.

Nope-just had my first successful J Arthur in weeks and to cap it found 50p under the wally jar.

Point is that most fans would have signed their own death warrants in their hurry for a piss and a Bovril, but the happy chappy's painting them as intelligentsia.
mortonjag 2006-12-14 12:39:22
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Dec 14 2006, 12:36 PM) [snapback]211502[/snapback]

I normally go to a game expecting to see 22 players and have to say I would be dissapointed if there was only one individual on show. No matter how talented they were.

Hear-listen
See-watch

PS-you're a f*cking snob anyway-what about the poor subs? smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-14 12:48:21
QUOTE(mortonslag @ Dec 14 2006, 12:38 PM) [snapback]211503[/snapback]

aye the old bowel disorder, us wummin suffer that quite badly.

I'll take my wallies oot fur ye and gei ye a gummy. smile.gif

I sit for a piddle, so can't comment on your troubles.

Aye right-well next time you 'sit for a piddle' don't forget to pull your pants down or you'll piss your flies.
mortonjag 2006-12-14 12:57:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 14 2006, 12:31 PM) [snapback]211496[/snapback]

BH is never that gentle with me NewTon

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Gidday mortonjag,

I am shocked and stunned, mate.

I never realised that you played for the other team.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

NewTon good chap-as they say to the potential thief-'don't knock it 'til you've tried it'.

Actually, I was the most homophobic guy on God's earth-my 'Damascus Road' experience came a few years back when a sheep accidentally reversed onto my John Thomas-actually it was up the cut-nowhere near Damascus-but never mind

Since then I've never looked back! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-14 13:04:41
QUOTE(mortonslag @ Dec 14 2006, 12:54 PM) [snapback]211510[/snapback]

aye, size isn't everything wee man.

I like a man who has something to offer, like 'the jag meister'

not a peely wally tiddly widdly thumb sized willy anker like you.

The jag meister's willy has all but shrivelled up darling, but if you're serious I'll maybe manage another J Arthur into a wee test tube-£500 a tadpole, and all proceeds to the DDFR bleat fund.
mortonjag 2006-12-14 13:10:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 14 2006, 01:02 PM) [snapback]211514[/snapback]

There is a pun there somewhere, I'm sure.

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By the way, you have male.

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That's an even better pun, or WAS it just meant to be 'mate'?

You misunderstand me NewTon, I'm just totally Narcissistic-the willy is merely a pleasure seeker-the source is irrelevant. wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-14 13:16:02
QUOTE(mortonslag @ Dec 14 2006, 12:51 PM) [snapback]211507[/snapback]

eeeeuuuucchhhhh. you have flies in your bog, clarty bugger.

I don't wear panties, like the air around the woods.

Shave it off too-it just gets in the road-by the way, have you ever felt a woman's c*nt?
mortonjag 2006-12-14 13:17:55
QUOTE(Chuck Norris @ Dec 14 2006, 01:16 PM) [snapback]211525[/snapback]

God damn faggots.

Christsake man-is that YOU in the picture-you are pure f*cking gorgeous.
mortonjag 2006-12-14 13:19:21
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 14 2006, 01:18 PM) [snapback]211527[/snapback]

Get well soon kenny, the club should extend his contract if it runs out next may to let him concentrate of recovering.

If all goes well he'll be back in training for the new season.
mortonjag 2006-12-14 13:21:27
QUOTE(mortonslag @ Dec 14 2006, 12:33 PM) [snapback]211498[/snapback]

Munx is gay ohmy.gif

All this time he has been leading me up the garden path, promising me lavish gifts and fruit flavoured condoms.

I am crushed.

I even went commando in anticipation.

Like most simians and his adoptive Daddy, he swings every way.
mortonjag 2006-12-14 13:25:06
QUOTE(mortonslag @ Dec 14 2006, 01:18 PM) [snapback]211528[/snapback]

i thought it was the big blue thingy in your picture.

I offer it to you for free, and you try and charge me.

I am wooried I may have competition with your continual references to sheep.

The 'blue thingy' as you so irreverently describe it, is Munx' graduation diploma from the James Watt College.

After that he did a Ph.D. in aerodynamics at Cambridge, but we prefer the old picture for the nostalgia.
mortonjag 2006-12-14 13:28:30
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 14 2006, 01:24 PM) [snapback]211533[/snapback]

OK - I will try again.

You have MAIL.

as in a private message.

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Ah-THAT kind of male-shall have a looksee but should you not be asleep?
mortonjag 2006-12-14 13:34:04
QUOTE(mortonslag @ Dec 14 2006, 12:15 PM) [snapback]211486[/snapback]

mortonjag for manager, he knows no bounds, in fact he knows everything there is to know.
The Oracle, more like Ceefax, slow, invariably wrong and has you to the stage where you want to punch it ohmy.gif .

You're lagging mate-keep up nice Miss mortonslag, or hit me from the usual place! mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-14 13:36:18
QUOTE(mortonslag @ Dec 14 2006, 01:20 PM) [snapback]211530[/snapback]

blink.gif blink.gif Unlike you I am in no way homosexual, but if you refer to my own, yes I have.

Your imagination knows no bounds-I presume there's no way I can get the clap off this computer by replying to you! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-14 13:41:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 12 2006, 02:42 PM) [snapback]211065[/snapback]

actually it's not.

It has more migrants than any other state.

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I've never had any bother getting into Victoria, nor Sydney either, when I come to think of it. cool.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-14 14:05:08
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Dec 14 2006, 01:51 PM) [snapback]211545[/snapback]

I certainly wouldn't miss Jim McAllister as a player. Have never really rated him, have seen him having about half a dozen good games since he broke into the team... just doesn't contribute enough in the majority of games.

That's a bit unfair DZ-you'll have to be more specific-he actually contributes a huge amount to every game, and that's presumably why he keeps getting picked.

The problem is the end product-90% of all that effort seems to end in very little, but of course the boy's playing out of position.
mortonjag 2006-12-14 14:10:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 14 2006, 01:54 PM) [snapback]211547[/snapback]

I heard that old Sydney is a slut.

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Not much to be said for his Southern territory I confess, but you know what they say NewTon-B*ggers can't be choosers!
mortonjag 2006-12-14 14:18:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 14 2006, 01:53 PM) [snapback]211546[/snapback]

naw - I trade Wall Street from 1.30 am to 8 am.

smile.gif smile.gif

And can't sleep when you go your holidays-I've been there too-not Wall St., I hasten to add!
mortonjag 2006-12-14 14:23:10 My favourite carol is 'Silent Night'-my favourite song 'Let it Snow'

Ashraf round the corner's is 'What a friend I have in Jesus'-sings it all December in the cash 'n carry.
mortonjag 2006-12-14 14:46:08
QUOTE(mortonslag @ Dec 14 2006, 02:42 PM) [snapback]211565[/snapback]

cannie keep up, my wee legs won't go any faster.

I know where you like to be hit. rolleyes.gif

Oh indeed-and what is it I like to be hit with---? dry.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-14 14:50:03
QUOTE(mortonslag @ Dec 14 2006, 02:43 PM) [snapback]211566[/snapback]

But unlike most simians you swing more one way.

Simians swing every way, every day-I feel a poem coming on-usually from trees, but sometimes in Zoos, and on a more educational note, they're NOT fussy about where their willies go either.
mortonjag 2006-12-14 14:58:31
QUOTE(mortonslag @ Dec 14 2006, 02:45 PM) [snapback]211568[/snapback]

Never a truer word has been verbally vomited back up.

Now that's pure mastery of the Queen's English!
mortonjag 2006-12-14 15:03:53
QUOTE(mortonslag @ Dec 14 2006, 02:57 PM) [snapback]211577[/snapback]

Just noticed a slight spelling mistake in your profile jag.

Happiness (provided by those three and Mairi!)
Should that not read Harry? ohmy.gif

Mairi was flavour of the month slag-if I had to change my profile every time I had a new partner, I'd burn the skin off my fingers.

Mind you Mairi's good-VERY good-for a woman!
mortonjag 2006-12-14 15:45:53
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Dec 14 2006, 01:05 PM) [snapback]211516[/snapback]

How very true....I just wished Marco had kept doing what he did when he 1st came here, rather than become lacsidasical(sp?)...

But Big ritchie..oh aye...Just a bit sad that McGraws time was just a couple of years before I was born. sad.gif

McGraw's timing and positional sense were unbelievable, and for a relatively wee man, he scored the majority of his goals with headers. If it hadn't been for the corrupt OF dominance of the international scene he'd have got a barrowload for Scotland too.

When wee Gowser missed that header on Saturday, my immediate comment to my brother was-'if only that had been McGraw'-anyway the past's the past! sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-14 15:49:43
QUOTE(ianton @ Dec 14 2006, 03:43 PM) [snapback]211601[/snapback]

Baines, Hayes, Holmes, Rooney, McLaughlin, Orr, McNeil, Russell, Thompson, Hutchison, Ritchie.add alex mathie to that list plus the finnish players,then in the very early days bobby collins era,then even before that Mgraw caven ect ect oh and i forgot to mention barney jensen and probably a host of others.at the moment we don't have anybody in the same class.yes there was plenty to get exited about years ago.now well nobody of note at all.sad but true

Bobby Collins-he was incredible for us-stood about five feet four, and COMMANDED midfield-took no prisoners either.
mortonjag 2006-12-14 15:59:19
QUOTE(Chuck Norris @ Dec 14 2006, 03:20 PM) [snapback]211594[/snapback]

I'm beginning to think you're a bit of a pervert Jag and I don't like perverts. Take that as a warning.

YOU-calling ME a pervert-now that's rich-from what I've heard-well I can't really say much on an open board, but I got it on good authority from all six of them. huh.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-14 16:01:19
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 14 2006, 03:55 PM) [snapback]211608[/snapback]

Thank goodness-I was really looking forward to it, and thought I'd blown it!
mortonjag 2006-12-14 16:03:47
QUOTE(GazTon @ Dec 14 2006, 02:58 PM) [snapback]211578[/snapback]

It's a bit sad talking to yourself on a messageboard 'mortonjag'.
I noticed the signature sheet going round, but didn't actually sign it.

If only!

The slag appeared out of the blue this afternoon, but I'm sure he'll soon get tired. mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-14 16:08:47
QUOTE(mortonslag @ Dec 14 2006, 03:02 PM) [snapback]211586[/snapback]

Thank you, a compliment at last. My heart skipped a beat there.

But i have to point out that the 'Queens English' should be reserved for yourself.

A fair point slag-but for me it was, and always will be the King's English-that's what I was taught at school-can't understand why you fancy a geriatric-and that Richard Gruff one's calling ME a pervert. mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-14 19:44:18
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Dec 14 2006, 04:52 PM) [snapback]211630[/snapback]

s*** is Willowman posting under a new name??

No! mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-14 20:05:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 14 2006, 05:03 PM) [snapback]211633[/snapback]

pity they didn't teach you punctuation at Partick Primary.

you and your bloody hyphens.

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laugh.gif laugh.gif


My grammar-syntax-and punctuation- were actually not too bad-'til I started on silly-web--sites----NewTon

As for bloody hymens------WELL--!
mortonjag 2006-12-14 20:12:58
QUOTE(Greenock Morton FC @ Dec 14 2006, 05:18 PM) [snapback]211636[/snapback]

The wind up?
19 year olds can have a fulltime job aswell yknow huh.gif
The car isnt the problem, its insuring it.

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You're being awfully touchy, and missing the point-it's the insurance group you want to be in that's crucifying you-anyway, even a 2002 type R in decent nick's going to cost you £9000 or more and they're nearer £20000 new.

It's a catch 22 situation for youngsters who want decent b.h.p.


mortonjag 2006-12-14 20:16:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 14 2006, 06:23 PM) [snapback]211654[/snapback]

Slag and Jag are not the same bloke.

Jag is old enough to be Slag's father/mother.

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And Slag wants him/her to shag him/her/it!
mortonjag 2006-12-14 20:25:47
QUOTE(Chuck Norris @ Dec 14 2006, 04:25 PM) [snapback]211618[/snapback]

Hey, no problem you pair of donkey humping terrorists. Stories about the Chuck that ain't true are all good - the ultimate killing machine is comfortable with his own rampant heterosexuality. I ooze machismo and I'm a God damn sexual tyrannosaurus, just like Jesse Ventura.

You two pencil necked faggots should stick to having thoughts about mutual tweeking of your cables while watching the latest episode of WWE and wishing a greasy steroid could keep it up long enough to stretch your anus beyond recovery.

Very good Big Boy-a God damn sexual tyrannosaurus-indeed-Wilma Flintstone-hold onto your knickers-more likely your dick's been extinct for umpteen years.
mortonjag 2006-12-14 21:11:26 [attachmentid=2588]
QUOTE(Greenock Morton FC @ Dec 14 2006, 08:27 PM) [snapback]211690[/snapback]

Is this meant to be some sort of lesson?
Im not an idiot mate.

I was test driving an 06 plate the other day at £16945 with and offer of £4200 off for if i trade in my current motor. (£2000 remains on the finance)
A bit expensive but its a nice car.
If I wait till august my current car will be paid off + I'll be able to say ive been driving another year. I'll be up in a wage rise as well so August looks like the time to go for it wink.gif biggrin.gif

No it's NOT meant to be a lesson, and you're obviously not an idiot, but you came on and asked for some insurance advice GMFC, so what's your problem, and why the huff?

I stand by my original comment. If you're lucky enough at 19 to be financing a £13000 (after trade in) motor from your wages, why do you grudge the insurance?

As I said, it is a 'catch 22', and I sympathise with you. You'll do better with a specialist broker, but it'll still cost a lot.

If you really DO want advice, and still want performance, budget for the insurance first, and go for an older vehicle in good nick.

Incidentally, if you want a 02 MGTF 160 with 32,000 on the clock, I'll sell you one for £7000, and I think you'll be impressed if you check the performance and economy figures against your Honda-not much in it, rear wheel drive, mid engine, and superb handling-believe me!
AND you can't do this!
mortonjag 2006-12-14 21:29:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 14 2006, 08:59 PM) [snapback]211692[/snapback]

If you have seen one, you have seen them all.

Did you know that they are like balloons ???

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One-prick-and-********* wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-14 21:44:18 Why do we all fall for this? Anyhow we're due a decent away win.

I predict a very tight game-a shut out for Mathers-and one goal-ach c'mon big Sanny against his old club would be nice.

Also Stirling 1 Cowdenbeath 2
mortonjag 2006-12-14 21:51:29 I'm sure Boney M still hold an all time record for British sales with one of their singles-probably 'Brown Girl'-simple easy listening still goes down well.
mortonjag 2006-12-15 06:13:36
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Dec 14 2006, 11:43 PM) [snapback]211738[/snapback]

Sorry Mortonjag. No offence meant.

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mortonjag 2006-12-15 06:21:24
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 14 2006, 10:44 PM) [snapback]211725[/snapback]

Nobody has mentioned Joe Harper yet, one of the best strikers ever to pull on the hoops.

I think a lot of what we remember is about atmosphere as well. In the days of McGraw Caven and even later in the sixties/seventies, Morton v say Thistle at Cappielow would be a 10,000+ gate. Morton v Rangers or Celtic would be a sell out with up to 15-16000 there.

If you have a decent atmosphere with big attendances, even ordinary players can seem fantastic. Anyone remember big 'Sugar' Osborne - the human battering ram centre forward?
The centre back pairing of Hughie Strachan and Billy Grey were just brilliant. Grey was replaced by a Dane - Madsen who was one the best centre halfs we ever had.

Don't get me started on nostalgia.

I mentioned wee Joe when I started the thread Tonsilitis-did you happen to see him play at Scapa for the Scottish schoolboys against Wales. We haven't seen that type of player for many a year.

On crowds- you may also recall that in the old 2nd (what equates to the current 3rd) division, we pulled in over 12000 for an ordinary mid season league match against Clyde-how things have changed-but the football those boys were playing was keeping fans AWAY from the Glasgow dens of iniquity-DOUGLAS RAE TAKE NOTE_YOU WERE THERE TOO.
mortonjag 2006-12-15 07:21:17
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Dec 14 2006, 10:03 PM) [snapback]211714[/snapback]

it's 5th wink.gif

Shows how up to date I am! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-15 07:30:47 The five day forecast this morning is the best in the last month, and Saturday will be a good-possibly even fine- day.

My advice is that you put Christmas on the back burner and head for Glebe park-you will not be disappointed.

Are you up for it?

Yours Aye

Mortonjag

pp DDFR
mortonjag 2006-12-15 08:08:28
QUOTE(cskasofia @ Dec 15 2006, 07:24 AM) [snapback]211770[/snapback]

Re Morton getting crowds of about 10,000 in the 60's.

I remember reading somewhere that the first game Killie played at home after becoming Scottish Champions round about 63 0r 64 was about 8,000.

Were Morton one of the better supported clubs in Scotland in the 60's?

When we we at our best-yes-I remember one evening cup tie at Scapa against Motherwell, when we crammed in over 20,000.

For us older guys csk, that's what's so frustrating when we get rubbished for saying we could do OK in the SPL-I've said repeatedly that we have as big a potential fanbase as EVERY current SPL side apart from the big City clubs, and bigger than Inverness, St. Johnstone, and Livi.

Douglas Rae is absolutely sound in his vision-SO unlike Mileson's folly-and if he only had a bit more money we'd already be in the SPL and doing OK IMO, but the budget's not been used as successfully as he and we all hoped.

I've got a good feeling about a change in perspective in the boardroom-it's never too late-we can still be in the SPL in two seasons.
mortonjag 2006-12-15 08:15:13 Memories light the corners of my mind !
mortonjag 2006-12-15 10:26:02
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 15 2006, 09:43 AM) [snapback]211786[/snapback]

I don't think we will ever get those sort of crowds again simply due to demographics. The population of what is now Inverclyde has halved since the sixties following the loss of almost all of our industries - shipbuilding, Sugar refining, electronics. Of the remaining population there is a high proportion of unemployed or low income families to whom even second division football is an unaffordable luxury.

When I left school the local yards employed 12000 people plus at least 2 more in all the supplier businesses that supported then - e.g. my father & law's Fruit and Veg business that supplied the canteens. Plus of course, this is the age of the car and there are so many more things to do on a Saturday.

Having said that, we still have the potential to be as well supported as maybe half the present SPL clubs. And I agree with you - we can achieve SPL status in two seasons with relatively few new faces. We will probably just disagree on who they should be!

You are probably right in statistical terms, but every time we've had a really 'BIG' match (Peterhead for promotion to 2nd/Dundee Utd in playoffs) etc. we can attract a good crowd.

Those are football fans Tonsilitis- and I believe we CAN attract them away from what they normally do on a Saturday.

I also imagine that, using your own argument, the very cost of going to Glasgow to watch the OF, would bring us a fair share of their less ardent/affluent followers if the product was right.
mortonjag 2006-12-15 10:29:28
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 15 2006, 09:00 AM) [snapback]211778[/snapback]

Yes. Beckam requested 23 when he moved to Madrid. Ironically it turned out he was the 23rd best player at the player.

Who were they all getting 'shots' at DM? He's certainly got into Van Nistelrooy many a time and he's only 17 unsure.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-15 10:39:27
QUOTE(Alibi @ Dec 15 2006, 09:51 AM) [snapback]211789[/snapback]

Does anyone else notice that there has been a sea change and that the onus has now shifted to unionists to try to find reasons why Scotland should NOT be independent? - the default position has now become independence and the unionists are fighting a losing battle with the most ridiculous and irrlelevant arguments to try to support their case. Witness this week's series of (rather slanted) articles in the unionist Scotsman newspaper where some of the stuff has been hilarious.

I think most people have now realised that Scotland's interets can never be served by allowing our nation to be run from a foreign country, and especially not when the controllers are Scots (in theory at least) who basically want to be Englishmen.

I suspect Tom McB will disagree.....

But IS IT a true vote for Nationalism.

We've always shunned the Tartan Tories, and Bliar's fiasco 'Labour' government is only surpassed by McConnell's jumped up 'cooncillor' eejits, so what choice is there right now? sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-15 10:46:06
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Dec 15 2006, 10:27 AM) [snapback]211792[/snapback]

Mmm, always confused me that saying.

Like on the telly the othere night, bloke with a dug said "it's a terrible time of the day to have a shooting"

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But the best time to 'pop your clogs' is definitely in the middle of a lovely dream about McAlister's blinding left foot drive as we hump Cellic in the 2006 Scottish Cup. smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-15 11:31:19
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 15 2006, 10:52 AM) [snapback]211798[/snapback]

Sign them both, then again would jim sign a left back....

More to the point I think-would DDFR sign a left back when DM appears to be first choice?
mortonjag 2006-12-15 11:46:10
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Dec 15 2006, 11:19 AM) [snapback]211801[/snapback]

Porto v CHELSEA
CELTIC v AC Milan
PSV Eindhoven v ARSENAL
Lille v MANCHESTER UNITED
Roma v Lyon
Barcelona v LIVERPOOL
Real Madrid v Bayern Munich
Inter Milan v Valencia

Closet Tim eh!
mortonjag 2006-12-15 11:51:50 blink.gif
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Dec 15 2006, 11:13 AM) [snapback]211800[/snapback]

Don't you mean "pop your load". I thought Jim used his left leg solely for standing on.

That's EXACTLY what I was alluding to-wake up man!
mortonjag 2006-12-15 12:16:55
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Dec 15 2006, 12:03 PM) [snapback]211818[/snapback]

Nothing closet about it. I have openly stated previously that I attended a catholic school and that I'm of Irish decent - clearly given away by the 'O' in my family name. The fact that you assume that I posted this topic only because Celtic were in the draw is indicative of the west coast mindset.

rolleyes.gif ScotinBelgie

Scot-who said you weren't 'decent'?

I had a family of 'Tims' at school with me. They attended a state school, were of English descent, and had no 'O' in their name. They CERTAINLY did not have 'the west coast mindset'.

I assumed nothing other than that you are either a Celtic fan or a dreamer, and there's nothing wrong with dreaming. smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-15 12:23:06 Three and a half seasons on and some folk are still impatient-give the old sod time-it's not 'til Monday after all, and maybe he's waiting for the Brechin result before announcing whether it's on or off! dry.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-15 12:26:05 Closet Huns-eh! wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-15 12:30:19
QUOTE(Ton Ton Macoute @ Dec 15 2006, 12:00 PM) [snapback]211817[/snapback]

Dems tims aallus comes out o' de woodwork at dese times.

Dem tims, dem tims, dem--fly tims
Dem tims, dem tims, dem--fly tims
Dem tims, dem tims, dem--fly tims
Day don support de Ton at all mad.gif

McGurn be connected to McManus
An Millar connected to McGeady
McGowan's connected to McGlinchey
Day don support de Ton at all

Dem tims,--- rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-15 12:31:59
QUOTE(Tons @ Dec 15 2006, 12:26 PM) [snapback]211830[/snapback]

This isn't meant as a dig at the club -- I am hoping it is there somewhere and someone can point it out. I just wanted the event details from an official source rather than relying on external means. I am on the club e-mail list as well and there has been nothing on that either.

FFS awful thought-maybe DDFR's done a runner!
mortonjag 2006-12-15 12:53:05
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Dec 15 2006, 12:49 PM) [snapback]211840[/snapback]

Wishing you a speedy recovery. Neil Harris (Millwall at the time) came back from this. I'm sure that you can as well.

Lance Armstrong, Champion the jockey-plenty of examples in sport. We don't know the details, but fingers crossed for you Kenny-and you'll always have balls as far as I'm concerned son.
mortonjag 2006-12-15 12:56:53 Morton have been needing a BIG NUMBER 2 for ages-somebody that can move them. wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-15 13:02:53
QUOTE(Vialli_No7 @ Dec 15 2006, 12:57 PM) [snapback]211846[/snapback]

He's No 23 because he is part of the Illuminati either that or Beelzibub Or maybe just to make himself more interesting. The "23 Enigma" refers to the belief that all incidents and events are directly connected to the number 23
23 = 2/3 = .666

See also:-
the plot of LOST.
Kurt Cobain Born 1967: 1+9+6+7=23. Died 1994: 1+9+9+4=23. wink.gif
U2 U is the 21st letter in the alphabet added to the number two gives you 23. cool.gif
George W Bush w= 23 letter in alphabet
Psalm 23
The human body has 46 chromosomes, 23 from each parent
It goes on and on

Check this out though http://www.number23movie.com/
or maybe just because Michael Jordan wore 23 ,..or maybe he's in the Illuminati as well !! ohmy.gif
rolleyes.gif

Maybe plastic tits has been teaching him to sing 'The Lord's my Shepherd-I shall not want' !
mortonjag 2006-12-15 14:23:56 I think it's got to be taken as glass 'half full'.

Scott's been an ever present and tireless worker this season, but the end result's not great.

Walker, OR for that matter Finlayson, can take over.

I'd love to see Russell on the left but the blinkers will still be on about McAlister I guess.

What I think is that it's 'kinda' sad that we have to have an injury to shake things up.
mortonjag 2006-12-15 14:46:04
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Dec 15 2006, 01:46 PM) [snapback]211856[/snapback]

As to being 'decent', fair play my typing and spelling let me down again. Because I posted the fixtures for Champions league, and Celtic were included, you assumed that I am really a Celtic supporter. Rather than say that directly you alluded to it by commenting that I was a closet Tim. To this I replied saying that indeed my heritage was Irish catholic. The fact that you were correct in this assumption however does not give any indication as to where my footballing alleigance lies. To assume any football alleigence from my Irish catholic background is as I said classic west coast mentality.Given that from my understanding the term 'Tim' was a common derogatory name for Irish catholic immigrants living in the west coast of Scotland and primarily Glasgow, from your own description this family obviously were not 'Tims'.

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Absolute nonsense-they WERE TIMS-get onto the 'Brookmyre forum' right now, and type in-'What is a Tim?'. 'Tim' is not derogatory.

I was only poking fun Scot-but in my experience Tims with a west of Scotland mentality are very defensive by nature.

To assume a football allegiance from an Irish Catholic backgound is common bloody sense Scot, and if you are indeed one of the enlightened, stop encouraging the mindless morons who flock from Inverclyde to see Cellic every week by ridiculously predicting a win over AC Milan. wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-15 14:59:06
QUOTE(Vialli_No7 @ Dec 15 2006, 01:33 PM) [snapback]211854[/snapback]

The older I get, the more I feel alienated from the likes and loves of the great British public.

No one else that I know dislikes Ant and/or Dec . I watch in horror as people I know and like, even respect, actually laugh at Catherine Tate? I don't find Carol Thatcher "quirky and amusingly intelligent" I find her only slightly less nauseating than her bitch of a mother. There are so many "everybody's favourites" that I just cant or wont watch that I now feel maybe I'm wrong.

yours worried. unsure.gif

Pair of infantile twats IMO-true deviant paedo fodder.

The more (DARE I say) TIM looking one with the misshapen skull and single thick black eyebrow from one ear to the other (sorry I don't know which is which) looks positively brain damaged.
mortonjag 2006-12-15 15:05:32 Man to psychiatrist-'I keep visualizing my willie inside a biscuit tin'.

Psychiatrist-'You're f*ckin' crackers.
mortonjag 2006-12-15 15:43:07
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 15 2006, 03:12 PM) [snapback]211886[/snapback]

Man gets up one morning to find his dyslexic wife already in the kitchen cooking.
He looks to see what his wife is cooking, and to his surprise he sees she has one of his socks frying in a wok.
"What are you doing?" he asked
"I'm doing what you asked me to do last night", she replied
Completely puzzled, the man walks away thinking to himself, "I don't remember asking her to cook my sock"

dyslexic devil worshipper sold his soul to Santa
mortonjag 2006-12-15 20:55:25
QUOTE(jpmil @ Dec 15 2006, 04:15 PM) [snapback]211904[/snapback]

Have you aid no heed to DDFR's words about crowds/signings?

I am resigned to not seeing any additions to the squad!

Well you're probably the wiser one of us-'cos I will be f*cking furious if we don't get our 'midfield general/hardman' and he NEEDN'T cost a fortune-I'd happily sell McAlister right now if that would pay for it-not because I don't rate the boy, but because he's doing nothing stuck where he is and IMO his career's being hampered anyway.
mortonjag 2006-12-15 20:57:19
QUOTE(ton_will_get_promoted @ Dec 15 2006, 04:39 PM) [snapback]211924[/snapback]

Im sorry, it just doesn't get said enough nowadays. tongue.gif

Unfortunately NOT this year-like it or not-maybe that avatar's not good for you TWGP rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-15 21:00:28
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Dec 15 2006, 05:43 PM) [snapback]211944[/snapback]

Att: 750

Brechin 2 Morton 1
Stirling 3 The Beath 2

Jim FFS-we both agree the manager's s***e, but c'mon mate-no harm in some faith in the boys. They DO get it right all by themselves sometimes, and Stirling are due a wee setback.
mortonjag 2006-12-15 21:03:22
QUOTE(stuart @ Dec 13 2006, 12:29 AM) [snapback]211200[/snapback]

Anyone else considering a wee £20 insurance bet on Stirling Albion where you insure yourself against Morton not winning the league and have £90 for your mental anguish if the worst does happen?

NO WAY-I have every faith in the roulette wheel-McInally's no f*cking help, but the boys will get us through this time-DO NOT WASTE ANY MONEY ON THE BINOS.
mortonjag 2006-12-15 21:07:52
QUOTE(gdo @ Dec 15 2006, 08:16 PM) [snapback]211961[/snapback]

No because I won't be able to make it. But someone should be!

You can always send the good man an e-mail and post a copy on the board-I agree with your points-don't let them go unheard.
mortonjag 2006-12-15 21:11:49
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Dec 15 2006, 06:12 PM) [snapback]211947[/snapback]

Thornton knows what he's talking about, watch this space!! ph34r.gif

I predicted a while ago that we'd see a goalie and a striker arrive. The goalie's here and McInally reported that he's on the lookout for a new striker just this week.


You may very well be Mr Mathers in disguise BMFC, but I can't see the point of gloating if you really think it's a striker we need.
SURELY J McInally doesn't see that as the priority right now.
mortonjag 2006-12-15 21:15:12
QUOTE(princessTON @ Dec 15 2006, 08:51 PM) [snapback]211968[/snapback]

Whats he been up to?

Not very much really, he just reminded our illustrious manager that he played a blinder at Cowdenbeath and hasn't featured since! mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-15 21:18:00
QUOTE(jpmil @ Dec 15 2006, 04:11 PM) [snapback]211902[/snapback]

If Alex dosen't make the starting 11 tomorrow I think that he will realise that he isn't going to get a fair chance at Cappielow. I think his strength in mid-field is what we are lacking at present.

For John Adam read Alex Walker, and do you remember all the hype from Dougie and McInally when we signed Alex while he had the option of other clubs-it's a f*cking disgrace- but both players ex Rangers I happen to recall! dry.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-15 21:33:38
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Dec 15 2006, 09:23 PM) [snapback]211983[/snapback]

I think this game is a MASSIVE one for us and every MASSIVE game we've played we've bottled.

I mean we were NINE points clear with no pressure on us now the pressure is on big time.

I'll be cheering them on like everyone else but that's my prediction.

I'd also like to add that if we do win this game we will win the league as it'll be the catalyst the team needs at the moment.

Why is this game massive-you get three points for a win etc. no matter whom you play?

I'd say that Stirling are, theoretically playing a much more massive game tomorrow.

I'm CERTAIN they'll drop one if not three points, and I'm not an optimist.

Beath are on the up-Lennon and Hannah have got the back sorted, and all season they've been able to grab goals.
mortonjag 2006-12-15 21:37:49
QUOTE(brianc @ Dec 15 2006, 08:08 PM) [snapback]211959[/snapback]

Can anybody help me!

I have converted some avi files to dvd files which are on my hard disk,
problem i have is burning them on to dvd disc, i thought i could do it with Roxio Easy Media Creator 7 through the dvd builder, but its not happening, can anybody suggest any software that i can use to perform this task.

Cheers!

I'm probably talking s***e here, but if you've got the roxio drag to disc option, just put the original files on the desktop and drag them from there to the roxio icon. The roxio software should do the rest.
mortonjag 2006-12-15 21:41:02
QUOTE(ton_will_get_promoted @ Dec 15 2006, 04:44 PM) [snapback]211930[/snapback]

Stay off the whisky

(notice no "e")

Obviously you don't understand TWGP-and I don't drink that stuff-well not now!

Some old codger will explain for me I hope. sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-15 21:44:31
QUOTE(Vialli_No7 @ Dec 15 2006, 04:57 PM) [snapback]211935[/snapback]

That was point of my thread, that up until now I thought they were everyone's cup of tea except mine.

I don't feel so bad now. I did like Little Britain for the first two series but got really fed up with it and now wouldn't watch a new one. If you catch a couple of old sketches on BBC36 or whatever then its still makes me laugh and matt Lucas is a funny guy and seems like a decent bloke. Not sure about Walliams though.

I know I will be in a minority of ONE here. I think Only Fools and Horses is pure pash, but I cant say why except I cant see the difference between it and Last of the Summer Wine and most folk I know hate that but not OF&H.

Your minority has doubled Vialli-some folk are easily pleased!
mortonjag 2006-12-15 21:48:33
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 15 2006, 05:10 PM) [snapback]211938[/snapback]

The onus has shifted to the unionists to make a case for the union.So far, they have failed miserably. The Labour "heavyweights" who were mean't to tear SNP policy to shreads at their conference didn't. All they done was treat the Scottish electorate like fools and used 70's scaremongering tactics.

Strangley not all Labour voters are unionists. An amazing 40% of Labour voters believe in an independent Scotland.

The unionists are running scared. Going by recent by-election results, the SNP have gained massive swings, and in the central belt too !!

Milton - 15% Swing
Moray - 9.5% Swing
Borestone - 16% Swing
Herbertshire - 24.4% Swing
Dumbarton West - 13.4% Swing
Markinch & Woodside East - 30% Swing
Elderslie- Swing 16.1% (Lab hold)

I always had doubts about this issue before devolution, but now I'd say 'Don't knock it 'til you've tried it'-let's face it we're supposed to have a democracy here, not a f*cking foregone conclusion.
mortonjag 2006-12-15 21:55:19
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Dec 15 2006, 09:46 PM) [snapback]211993[/snapback]

If we lose tomorrow and Stirling draw or win we lose our sole Top Of The Table spot.

To me that's massive as it'll put even more pressure on a team that ain't exactly setting the heather on fire and attracting crowds back.

Chill man-if we win we'll be happy and super manager gets a reprieve-if we lose he gets his jotters!
mortonjag 2006-12-15 21:59:31 I find all this highly amusing. We can't say a good word about the skunks, and the minute we smell a bargain-let alone a skunk-we want to muscle in.

Mind you we could always call it our 'disabled' stand in honour of it's previous fanbase.
mortonjag 2006-12-15 22:01:25
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Dec 15 2006, 09:02 PM) [snapback]211975[/snapback]

I would probably agree there although we will maybe see another couple of YOUNGSTERS from the Celtic youth no doubt mellow.gif

Dem Tims dem Tims dem fly Tims
mortonjag 2006-12-15 22:11:17 £10 placed with William Hill on wins for Morton, Cowdenbeath, and Rangers, will return you £210. I'm doing it! huh.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-15 22:17:17 Elephant jokes-

How do you know one's been in the fridge?
Footprints in the butter

How do you know if two are in the fridge?
You can hear them talking

Elephants have been naughty
Bin bag missing

etc!
mortonjag 2006-12-15 22:51:48
QUOTE(jan65ton @ Dec 15 2006, 10:34 PM) [snapback]212012[/snapback]

ok what happened to the gay wizard??
disappeared with a poof! laugh.gif

Oh dear-back to the poofy ones

homosexual lawyer died of legal AIDS


gay Aussie got stuck in Sydney


highland poofter preferred Pete to Heather


Gay Irish - Scottish connection

Ben Doohan and Phil McCracken
mortonjag 2006-12-15 23:02:06 Sorry! sad.gif [attachmentid=2590]
mortonjag 2006-12-15 23:03:11 The board finally celebrate promotion
At LAST !!!!!
mortonjag 2006-12-15 23:27:55
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 15 2006, 11:01 PM) [snapback]212024[/snapback]

I have been watching Morton as long as you and I see a striker as a priority The current guys got great service last few games and could not convert any of them

Ad nauseam-Spoonsy was, is, and always will be a striker-NO MORE OUTLAYS FOR GOALSCORERS JUST SORT IT!!!
mortonjag 2006-12-15 23:58:58
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Dec 15 2006, 11:45 PM) [snapback]212035[/snapback]

Whether or not I agree with it Mortonjag, all I stated was that they would be signing a striker not that I thought they should sign a striker.

IF you have genuine sources, and they have no objection to you posting the information here-fine-you may well be a professional 'mole', but why can't we get it from the horse's mouth?

If, on the other hand, and as I suspect, you get a kick out of touting probabilities, and gloat when one comes up, you're wasting our time.
mortonjag 2006-12-16 00:05:07
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Dec 15 2006, 11:38 PM) [snapback]212032[/snapback]

Superb
"Blue is the colour, football is the game
We're all together and winning is our aim
So cheer us on through the sun and rain ( downpours in Greenock )
Cos Greenock Morton is our name"

Aye, has a wee ring to it.
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Blue is the colour, Morton is the name
McInally's manager-what a f*ckin' shame
Dougie's demented, Arthur's past it too
F*ckin' Gordon Ramsay we need help from you.
mortonjag 2006-12-16 00:15:21
QUOTE(SramTon @ Dec 16 2006, 12:08 AM) [snapback]212039[/snapback]

Photo

Click on the link, then on the photo to blow it up to full size.

Nothing to beat a pussy when you're desperate-eh? dry.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-16 08:02:25
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Dec 16 2006, 12:45 AM) [snapback]212042[/snapback]

I think Alex has never got a chance in his prefered position in midfield . When was Keenan's last game , it was probably the reserve game with QOS or the Motherwell friendly . Which ever it was and by the hints from JM in tonights Tilly it looks like Keenan will get the nod before Walker.
I don't here a clamour for Alex to get a start and hes been warming the bench for sometime yet most of you's on here wailed like babies to get Bambi in the starting eleven and has done nothing.
Walker I thought had adapted to the left back roll after a few games better than Keenan .
Who am I to challenge a man with as much expertise than JM. I'm sure he'll make the right decision .
Will not be at the game as I have to go to A and E to get my tongue removed from my cheek.

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If what you say is true though, I totally despair of him-Walker's a natural midfielder, and can be creative and quite classy. Keenan's a terrier-unpredictable,inexperienced, and liable to pick up cards. He played a great game at no 3 at Beath-I'd replace McGregor with him by all means and see if his promise fulfils itself, but not the McLaughlin spot.
mortonjag 2006-12-16 08:16:17
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Dec 16 2006, 12:47 AM) [snapback]212043[/snapback]

Think what you like you seem quick to want to have a go don't you. Trust me it was more than just luck on the signings. I've also said that at least 1 player will be leaving although I'm not as confident that will actually happen.

I always think what I like BMFC but I DO think, and if your sources are sound, we'll come to trust you.
I AM quick to have a go-it's what this forum's for, it's good fun, and it keeps us all on our toes.

I'm not confident about McGowan leaving but hope he does for the sake of proper squad building-unless of course he were to sign for us.
mortonjag 2006-12-16 08:20:11
QUOTE(rafa the spic @ Dec 16 2006, 02:35 AM) [snapback]212056[/snapback]

looks like we will be leaving our beloved St.Mirren Park within the next 16 months or so, its aload rubbish that the away stand can be moved, the reason its so steep is the sports center and bar underneath which a rather good complex, but we'll be sad to move so look to the future time, hopefully we can retain our place in the SPl and one day morton can join us for some great derby days

There's every possibility we'll need to ground share with you in the SPL in 18 months, if we don't get Scapa upgraded in time. That WOULD make sense unlike the Gretna/Well fiasco, and would consolidate our love-hate relationship!
mortonjag 2006-12-16 08:35:16
QUOTE(Pedro @ Dec 16 2006, 01:26 AM) [snapback]212049[/snapback]

You've taken that too far.

Blue is the colour, Morton is the name
f*ckin' brilliant tactics every f*ckin' game
Rae is a genius-Arthur backs him up
F*ckin' Gordon Ramsay- f*ckin' go to f*ck
mortonjag 2006-12-16 08:38:06
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 16 2006, 07:51 AM) [snapback]212062[/snapback]

As the late, great, John MacLean said a hundred years ago: “Scotland's separation is part of England's imperial disintegration.”

Obviously the LAST part. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-16 08:48:16 Just checked the local forecasts for Aberdeen, Banff, Banchory, Brechin, and Dundee-we will definitely get a dry day with quite a bit of sun-ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE OF CANCELLATION, and good playing conditions I hope.
mortonjag 2006-12-16 09:14:00
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 16 2006, 09:03 AM) [snapback]212070[/snapback]

Empire was as much Scottish as it was English. Glasgow was the Second City of the Empire and Scots in general did very well out of it.

To pass imperialism off as a solely English preserve is inaccurate revisionism.

Are you implying that we good Scots had ANY involvement in the mass international rape and pillage known as the BRITISH Empire-get a life son . dry.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-16 09:22:19
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Dec 16 2006, 12:51 AM) [snapback]212044[/snapback]

There was a snippet in the Sun today saying we are in for Grady. Probably soon to be refuted by McInally.

Is he not one of

Dem Tims, dem Tims, dem fly Tims

though-might get him after all! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-16 09:38:33
QUOTE(brianc @ Dec 15 2006, 08:08 PM) [snapback]211959[/snapback]

Can anybody help me!

I have converted some avi files to dvd files which are on my hard disk,
problem i have is burning them on to dvd disc, i thought i could do it with Roxio Easy Media Creator 7 through the dvd builder, but its not happening, can anybody suggest any software that i can use to perform this task.

Cheers!

Brianc-are you sure-'drag to disc' should be on the main screen under 'Applications' and when you click on that, an icon of a disc pops up.

Then right click on the original files you want to copy, and send them to the desktop. You can probably just drag them straight to the disc icon at this stage but I prefer to save them on the desktop 'til I've finished.

Close the windows, click and hold down the mouse on the saved file on the desktop and drag it over the disc icon and release-the Roxio software should do everything else.
mortonjag 2006-12-17 08:48:18
QUOTE(brianc @ Dec 16 2006, 12:10 PM) [snapback]212090[/snapback]

I reckon i must have the basic edition Mortonjag, when i go to applications and move the mouse over drag to disc nothing happens no icon appears , also same with Photosuite and Roxio player will have a look at Nero like Portoton suggest's.
Cheers anyway!

Try the roxio website and see if theres a free product uprgade-I'm using Roxio easy media creator 7 basic addition, and mine's working a treat-once you get the hang of it, it's a dawdle.

You could also run a search-type in 'drag to disc' under 'files and folder' and see if you can locate the files. If you can, you can place the drag to disc icon permanently on your desktop.
mortonjag 2006-12-17 08:58:24
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 16 2006, 01:16 PM) [snapback]212107[/snapback]

This old codger cannot see the need for any explanation.
ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

The ignorance of youth.
smile.gif smile.gif

Two smells never to be forgotten-eh NewTon, but THE one smell I'll never get back is the inimitable stink of rank piss in the old Stand lavvy at Scapa-I know that sounds absolutely minging, but mingled with the smell of pipe smoke and alcohol laden breath I loved it as a youngster!
mortonjag 2006-12-17 09:07:45
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 16 2006, 10:17 PM) [snapback]212521[/snapback]

His first superb game this season doesn't constitute sticking two fingers up at the negative posts.

He's been keech all season, there's no denying it. Well done to him today though.

He had a reasonable game-the goal was a peach I agree-full marks-but then near the end when we were getting pretty nervy, he skilfully turned inside the box, and proceeded to blast wildly over.

It's another example I think, of the need for someone in the team to steady those lads. Far too often they're so keen to 'get it right' and live up to expectations, they just end up making an arse of themselves.
mortonjag 2006-12-17 09:22:44
QUOTE(1insert_player_here @ Dec 16 2006, 09:04 PM) [snapback]212488[/snapback]

I'm probably the only person that does read them just now, no luck. If I stop reading yours you may as well stop posting. rolleyes.gif wink.gif
Back to the game:-
Great to see McAlister getting on the scoresheet, but that'll be him until next season now.
Also good to see Temps getting a goal, this is what we need our FORWARDS to do.
If Weatherson scores more goals at RB (even if he makes the odd mistake) than he does when playing further forward then that's good enough for me.
McGowan MUST score soon, hopefully against the Rovers, who are s***e this season, and God isn't by Marvin's side anymore by the sounds of things laugh.gif
I've not read a lot about the game, so can someone tell me - Was Stevenson at right mid, or centre?

Stevenson was playing the deeper central role he used to have at Alloa. As last week, he looked much more comfortable and put in a good shift-his subbing was, I presume, tactical.

Millar has looked lost since his change of role-I'm beginning to wonder if he's in the huff. He did very little for most of the game-but to his credit had a couple of good runs in on goal from the right near the end, and forced an excellent save from Nelson.

Golden boy McGowan produced some delightful first touches, and as always, worked hard, but when Del came on eventually, McGowan's poor link play was thrown into contrast, by his positive, if short contribution.

My MOTM was definitely Temps -if only he could SCORE with headers-he's been working on flicks and so on and gets better every week, but again he should have buried a cross in the first half. His work rate was great, though, and his goal was a cool lob over the keeper after a defensive mistake.

Spoonsy yet again on the scoresheet-but no doubt the minute we get a proper right back, McInally will drop him in favour of the less able up front. mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-17 09:31:14
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 17 2006, 09:23 AM) [snapback]212568[/snapback]

I was talking to my girlfriend (a Latin reader) about that very same point on Friday, and she said that the Romans did indeed love their celebrity gossip as much as we did. So, spot on, I'm afraid tongue.gif

Can she read English as well Nacho?

BTW what IS a Latin reader-is she a Uni lecturer or something?

I'm genuinely interested in her knowledge of the Romans-my Dad died exactly a year ago (aged 85), and was a well known local archeologist, and expert on the Antonine Wall, and he was always on about them, and spouting Latin phases and their meanings.

Did you not hear me screaming CARPE DIEM when we went three up yesterday, but as usual it almost ended in O ME MISERUM!

Vale Moderator
mortonjag 2006-12-17 13:57:26
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 17 2006, 09:54 AM) [snapback]212574[/snapback]

An entry-level college lecturer, but not in Latin.
I didn't hear jack yesterday as I wasn't at the game, part-timer wink.gif

She's pretty knowledgable about Roman society in Rome itself, I think, less so about the outlying provinces.

We went up to the Antonine Wall a couple of years ago (well, parts of it), very fascinating stuff. Sorry to hear about your dad but he sounded like an interesting guy. biggrin.gif

He was latterly a headmaster in---Paisley!!!, but when people asked him what he did, he said he was a part time teacher, and full time archeologist.

He used to take us on 'digs' when we were kids, but I got bored with that when I started watching the Ton!
mortonjag 2006-12-17 14:04:19 We've got several referees at our level who frequently upset us, but for sheer damned ignorance and arrogance Hardie takes the biscuit.
mortonjag 2006-12-17 14:11:39
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 17 2006, 11:13 AM) [snapback]212593[/snapback]

The more the match went on the less football was able to be played on that pitch which was just a ploughed field by half time. The pitch actually cost us the first goal we lost when Greacen lost his footing to let the guy in. Stevenson was having more and more trouble controlling the ball and doing anything meaningful with it and so it was reasonable sub to make.

Incidentally the shot McAllister blazed over the bar when he appeared to have done the hard work was also caused by the ball bobbling just as he fired the trigger.

I am disappointed we lost two goals but if anyone had offered me a 3-2 win before the match, I would have bitten his hand off.
I wonder if we will have any video of the goals as McAllister goal is one for the archives.

I guess you thought I was being cynical about Stevenson-I wasn't-I agree with you.

McAlister, from where we were sitting may have been slightly distracted, but that doesn't make you lift your head and totally fail to control the shot. He just went for broke instead of concentrating IMO.
mortonjag 2006-12-17 14:47:38 Full credit to you Harper McGhee for putting your neck on the block, and none to ThornTON for trying to be smart as usual.
I don't agree with all your ratings, but ratings are down to personal perception.

For me Mathers was a bit disappointing-I know the pitch was heavy but he had several uncharacteristic miskicks, and I thought he dealt poorly with their first goal.

The other big issue for me yesterday was McGowan-he had some delightful first touches, but as said elsewhere, there was no pay off, and very little link play. On a quagmire we had to wait 'til the dying minutes to see the contrasting strength and directness of Lilley.

Similar could be said in relation to Millar v Finlayson-Midge is a better footballer, but was largely lost yesterday, whereas Kev's powerful running almost got him a just reward in the short time he was on.

Brechin are a fair side, and all credit to them for trying to take the game to us, but yet again, as so often this season, we were cruising, and all but threw it away.

As nobody seems to be faulting our effort on the pitch-and I don't- WHO should take the blame for that?
mortonjag 2006-12-17 14:54:33
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Dec 17 2006, 02:49 PM) [snapback]212655[/snapback]

At the moment they are favourites, we have a shocking record against them and only a one point lead.

If we both get the same results in all the other games and it's just Morton v Stirling games that were crucial, then they would win the league.

Morton 1-4---Stirling 11-4 ThornTON

(WILLIAM HILL today)

Are you losing your marbles?
mortonjag 2006-12-17 15:02:14
QUOTE(suda @ Dec 17 2006, 11:39 AM) [snapback]212602[/snapback]

MortonJag today at the end of the game he ran the ball down into the corner a couple of times and took the pressure off at vital stages. Your right he did blast the ball over the bar once, it's a shame he's not perfect but then again he would probably be playing for somebody else if he was. I think he will eventually move on to a bigger club and good luck to him if he does because he's a good young talent. Finlayson was also guilty of blasting over the bar a couple of times but all in all the team did well on an atrocious pitch against an in form team who are difficult to beat on their own patch. All the negative posters are doing today is showing that they will never be satisfied no matter what and they are just frustrated failed footballers or managers themselves who think that they can do better.

Having praised the boy, and then criticising an obvious error is not being negative-as you said yourself it's a shame he's not perfect.

I was simply using that as yet another classical example of young heads on young shoulders, and citing the glaring absence of a steadying influence.

If you think that almost throwing away a thoroughly deserved three goal lead only deserves positive criticism, you're an odd chap IMO.
mortonjag 2006-12-17 15:11:59
QUOTE(suda @ Dec 17 2006, 02:55 PM) [snapback]212658[/snapback]

Full credit to McInally and all the team for going up to a very difficult away ground against a team on an eight game unbeaten streak and coming away with three points to leave us still top of the league. The conditions yesterday underfoot were very poor and Brechin did everything they could to unsettle us but we held our nerve and showed championship winning bottle to hold onto the points laugh.gif

Indeed suda-full credit to McInally-I thought throwing away a three goal lead against ten part timers truly demonstrated his experience..

mortonjag 2006-12-17 15:17:51
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Dec 17 2006, 02:38 PM) [snapback]212649[/snapback]

Not flute music, whistling which just happens to sound like a flute band.
So that's OK then. dry.gif

I gather the flute has been officially removed from performances by the SNO lest it offend

Dem Tims, dem Tims, dem fly Tims. mellow.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-17 15:27:11
QUOTE(suda @ Dec 17 2006, 03:17 PM) [snapback]212663[/snapback]

So no credit for being 3 goals up but plenty of slagging for losing 2 goals!!! Says it all MortonJag you will never give the man credit for anything and will continue to hound him until you've chased him out of the club. If we win the league this year what negative slant will you put on it?

Three excellent INDIVIDUAL efforts-f*ck all to do with the manager or tactics.

1/ An inspired drive from 'nowhere' by Jimbo

2/ Intelligent capitalising on a defensive gaffe by Sanny

3/ Excellent drive for yet another goal from McInally's 'Right Back'.

I can't believe how he continues to get support from posts like yours.

I have consistently PRAISED his fitness coaching and discipline.

WHEN we win the league this year, in spite of his ineffectiveness elsewhere, hopefully we'll get shot of him.

mortonjag 2006-12-17 15:33:05
QUOTE(suda @ Dec 17 2006, 03:21 PM) [snapback]212666[/snapback]

It all depends what slant you put on it. Almost throwing away a three goal lead = holding onto a lead to win the game. See negative vs positive. I don't understand your agenda by chipping away at McInally and some of the players constantly it's almost as though your not really a supporter at all.

EVERYTHING depends on 'what slant you put on it' suda.

If I wasn't really a supporter I wouldn't give a flying f*ck.

I don't understand the agenda of those who cannot be objective-I'm all for enthusiasm and getting behind the club, but I'm sick to the back teeth of being pulled up for DARING to suggest not all is well.
mortonjag 2006-12-17 15:36:12
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Dec 17 2006, 03:29 PM) [snapback]212672[/snapback]

What's ridiculous about it? They haven't lost in 16 games or summat like that - we have lost to Alloa and them in that time.

Anyone who thinks that we are favourites the way two teams are playing at the moment is clearly nuts.

EDIT - missed out a word and it didn't make sense

We're arguing over semantics-most people take 'favourites' to refer to bookies odds, but I agree with your sentiments re. the current situation.
mortonjag 2006-12-17 16:45:23
QUOTE(suda @ Dec 17 2006, 03:43 PM) [snapback]212680[/snapback]

Good I'm glad your sick of it coz I'm sick of having to read your p!sh if you've got nothing constructive to say why don't you just say nothing at all or will your ego not let that happen?

Maybe YOUR ego's too big for you to put me on ignore-you don't have to read anything-it's still a free country. Why guys like you keep coming back with more verbal vomit when I state the obvious defeats logic! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-17 16:52:09
QUOTE(suda @ Dec 17 2006, 03:45 PM) [snapback]212681[/snapback]

He's shagged your burd hasn't he!? Go on admit it it's ok to be a frustrated nobody and jealous of somebody doing your job laugh.gif

Did you forget the full stop between the two 'it's? rolleyes.gif

My 'burd' may well have played away from home from time to time, but she'd only ever associate with gentlemen of proven wealth and success. cool.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-17 16:57:13 Graeme-why can't we play one of those 'get it up you tunes' each time we score a goal. We got it in reverse yesterday. I found it f*cking annoying, but I presume it would help our cause at Scapa.
mortonjag 2006-12-17 17:17:08 'We should have put the game to bed but we saw the match out OK.

That's a big, big away game for us. Brechin's a hard place to go'.

How many games have we 'put to bed' all bloody season Jim?

Every away fixture in this division constitutes 'a hard place to go'-Stirling is a good example, or Alloa, or Cowdenbeath where we were also way ahead but almost blew it.

You have an uncanny knack of stating the obvious, but NEVER say how you intend to deal with it, and since nothing seems to change, I guess it's because you haven't a clue. mad.gif

mortonjag 2006-12-18 07:31:18
QUOTE(brianc @ Dec 17 2006, 05:34 PM) [snapback]212718[/snapback]

Tried the file search Mortonjag it found files no probs, but still wouldnt let me drag them, gonnah try the Roxio update because that sounds a good idea.

Cheers!

Hope you're getting on OK. I just realised that if you can find the files on your hard disc the software's maybe not working properly, but as long as you've got the installation CD, the best thing would be to unistall (control panel-add and remove programmes) and re-install the product.
mortonjag 2006-12-18 07:38:34
QUOTE(maurtaun @ Dec 17 2006, 05:10 PM) [snapback]212712[/snapback]

Whats the difference between Mr Kipling and the Ipswich serial killer.

Mr Kipling puts 6 tarts in a box.

Mr Kipling puts tarts in a box-and serial killers are real bad news for soap stars-'maurtaun'.

That joke was VERY un PC you naughty person! wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-18 07:56:29
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 17 2006, 10:06 PM) [snapback]212777[/snapback]

I pretty much agree with that. Next week, McLaughlin comes straight back in. Chris Millar looks as though his nose is a bit out of joint having been sent out to graze on the right wing. I think that is his best position, thinking back to the days of the Maisanos etc., but he is presently playing as a right winger rather than a right midfielder and that is not what's wanted. He needs to have a bit less of a petted lip and use his talent in that position. He and Stevenson with Weatherson behind could have a great partnership on the right

As for McGowan, I might drop him, I'm just not sure who for. Finlayson could replace Millar on the right but not McGowan up front. We only have Lilley who is just not a goal threat these days. McGowan at least looks like he might score now and again.

'Lilley who is just not a goal threat these days'-for Lilley substitute Sanny, and you've got last season's situation.

Temps was my MOTM too. His link-up ability is very much underrated, but McGowan's far too inexperienced to benefit from it-dare I say the much berated Alex Williams and Templeman would have a field day together.

If Spoonsy is NEVER going to be returned to his rightful position, I'd definitely have Del and Sanny up front. Now here's a thought-midfield of McAlister, Stevenson, Mclaughlin, and Russell, giving Chris time out, and a back four of Finlayson, Harding, Greacen, and Walker or Keenan.

That means 'dropping' Spoonsy, Midge, and Gowser Tonsilitis-I just can't wait to hear the reaction! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-18 08:38:15
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Dec 17 2006, 06:02 PM) [snapback]212725[/snapback]

So will you take the opportunity of tomorrow to say it all to the guys face rather than hid behind a computer screen

Yes!
mortonjag 2006-12-18 08:39:11
QUOTE(Torro @ Dec 17 2006, 06:05 PM) [snapback]212726[/snapback]

Ach dry up ya moanin faced git !!!

how dare a morton manager talk up a game were we scored three goals away from home to keep us top of the league above a team who havent been beaten all season rolleyes.gif

Come down tomorrow night and have a conversation with the guy and put your points across

I am now going to put you on ignore ya drip !!

biggrin.gif

Good!
mortonjag 2006-12-18 08:40:33
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Dec 17 2006, 06:51 PM) [snapback]212737[/snapback]

Plenty - off the top of my head:

Peterhead 0 Morton 4
Stranraer Morton 3
Morton 4 Alloa 0
Forfar 1 Morton 3
Raith 1 Morton 3
Morton 3 Stranraer 0

Can we not all just agree to put this muppet on ignore? mad.gif

How many of you are there itchy baws? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-18 08:51:02
QUOTE(suda @ Dec 17 2006, 06:55 PM) [snapback]212740[/snapback]

So far we've put 12 games 'to bed' this season more than anybody else in the league laugh.gif you really are a total fanny, why don't you take up the offer others are giving you and go and confront the guy because you've obviously got unresolved issues............as well as too much time on your hands!

You clearly haven't a clue what 'putting it to bed' means.

IMO we make it difficult for ourselves time after time, even in the games we win, and on almost every occasion when we've established a seemingly unassailable lead, we've failed to kill games off.

The conditions WERE difficult on Saturday-- for BOTH teams, but it was the one with ten men that was almost allowed to grab a point.

I WILL be going tonight, and I will join the debate, but frankly I have absolutely no confidence that anything said at Dougie's wee soiree will alter a solitary thing. mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-18 08:58:29
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Dec 17 2006, 11:11 PM) [snapback]212792[/snapback]

Brechin are 3rd in the league and are a harder away game than most teams in the league. We were beat there earlier in the season. Now under immense pressure after having a 9 point lead the team win 3-2 at Brechin on a freezing cold day on a shocking pitch in front of a paltry crowd. That was a game when you should be happy to come away with the points.

That's fair, and I was delighted to get the three points JonaTon, but it does not alter any of the facts about that game.

So long as people continue to equate winning with good management, I guess I'm just not going away on this.

I've repeatedly used the 'Ferrari races Mini' analogy about the TON over the last couple of seasons, and yet again this time, when we should be streaking ahead with our vastly superior resources, we are being hampered by a rookie driver, and I'm sick of it.
mortonjag 2006-12-18 09:02:26
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 17 2006, 04:59 PM) [snapback]212708[/snapback]

He asked and folk said no wink.gif

NOT folk that know best what's good for us all perchance? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-18 09:12:49
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Dec 18 2006, 01:21 AM) [snapback]212800[/snapback]

Don't think Dougie will be happy at that last remark perhaps thats why they have been benched . Haribo Starmix indeed .
They should have asked the Skipper if they could suck a fishermans Friend laugh.gif

Indeed, and word has it they eat the red, white, and blue sweeties, and spit out the green and yellow ones, so they're getting it from Dougie AND Jim! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-18 09:25:57
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Dec 18 2006, 08:03 AM) [snapback]212808[/snapback]

I agree with you Chrissiboi.

I have however raised a few questions which I hope WeegieTon is going to ask for me, if possible.

They were put on the initial thread about the Rally.

One thing that’s very important to me to pin him down for an answer on, is why we persist on lump up the field football.
He told me last season when I questioned him on it he’d implemented the Zonal System. Well that lasted two months tops.

I’m not interested in excuses like we played the ball on the deck on Saturday I want to know about why we did it for 80% of the previous games as come next Saturday I don’t want to be subjected to punt up the field football again.

I think someone else will ask the glaringly obvious question of why we play so many players out of position.
I’m gutted I won’t be there tonight to ask him directly.


Jim-maybe you're the lucky one. I have grave reservations about the value of this exercise-don't get me wrong-I'm going-but do you REALLY believe that the establisment at Scapa will pay one iota of attention to us?

This is Dougie's annual social- a commercial, and PR exercise, where they'll all play 'Mr Nice Guy'and then go back and carry on exactly as before IMO.


mortonjag 2006-12-18 09:59:40
QUOTE(se65an @ Dec 18 2006, 09:38 AM) [snapback]212824[/snapback]

And if they didn't do this annual PR stunt you would be moaning too!!

I really do look forward to hearing your reasonable, well thought out questions tonight, and if they are valuable questions about our current state, with a viable fixable conclusion, I do think GMFC will listen to your well thought out plans.
Its all one coming across with negative points, but coming across with answers would be even better. Lets all remember they are all only human too.

se65an-the answer to your question is 'NO'.

I've spent a professional lifetime dealing with personalities, and I firmly believe what I said.

Do you honestly believe that DDFR/McInally have not already heard outside opinions-we've even been told Dougie reads our posts!!!

Of course they are human, and both likeable men, but IMO, DDFR is a benign autocrat, who appointed McInally because he felt Jim could do the job without the former losing 'control'.

There is absolutely no justification in singing 'I did it my way', UNLESS you succeeded.
mortonjag 2006-12-18 10:37:38
QUOTE(Mick @ Dec 18 2006, 10:33 AM) [snapback]212831[/snapback]

I'll apologise in advance (Sorry!) as this has surely been covered on another thread but just need to check when Raith match is.

Is it Saturday 23rd (per GMFC.net) or Boxing Day (per fixture card)?

Merry Christmas

It's on 23rd December according to the Raith official site also.

oops -sorry guys! sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-18 10:44:51
QUOTE(se65an @ Dec 18 2006, 10:34 AM) [snapback]212832[/snapback]

NO, you sure you wouldn't be moaning that how come our club 'didn't' give us a chance to express our thoughts?

Not being as old and wise as you are, but am still old enough to have learnt things in my lifetime, and one of them is never to listen to constant moaners, as you'll never keep them happy, as moaning is their way of life, endof and a fact.

In saying that I do like people who have constuctive critism of the club, people who can not only see faults but are more helpfull with answers to the problems, as I said they are only human, and we all need helpful pointers in life, nothing comes good from constant moaning.

Anyway, hopefully we can have a chat tonight if your going, am the good looking one! biggrin.gif

FFS two of us in one hall-how will we cope? laugh.gif

sean, I'm anything but a constant moaner in reality-I'm very positive about life, and have the reputation for bouncing back-I've had a few big setbacks in my time.


I'm older, but probably no wiser than you-what you are saying is absolutely sound, but the area where we differ is that I DON'T think they will listen to criticism-positive or otherwise. We shall see! sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-18 10:52:42
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Dec 18 2006, 10:47 AM) [snapback]212837[/snapback]

Taken purely as a game of football I thought it was fantastic entertainment. Rangers certainly know how to play attractive, attacking football when they put their mind to it and, from a Scotland point of view, Ferguson in that form has to be a bonus.

ANOTHER closet Hun rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-18 11:20:12
QUOTE(se65an @ Dec 18 2006, 11:18 AM) [snapback]212842[/snapback]

OK, I wil also listen tonight and let you know my thoughts on it all. smile.gif

Not long now.. biggrin.gif

AND the sun is shining! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-18 14:00:23
QUOTE(mickaspic @ Dec 18 2006, 12:44 PM) [snapback]212859[/snapback]

Maybe you drop Gowser and Lilley and play weatherston up front?

Mick

Lilley's been on the bench anyway-I agree-I want Spponsy where he's best, not languishing in defence ---but this is a 'Holy Cow' with McInally.
mortonjag 2006-12-18 14:06:47
QUOTE(Alibi @ Dec 18 2006, 01:55 PM) [snapback]212882[/snapback]

To get the thread back on subject, I agree. Chris has improved beyond belief this season. He seems to have put on some bulk cos he used to be a beanpole but now he's a lot stronger and apparently fitter. Against Annan last week, he was steaming into tackles, and quite a scary sight it must be for a defender - he's a BIG bloke. He's winning most headers and distributing the ball well. He looks like the player we thought we had bought a couple of years ago.

That's right-a big lanky beanpole from Brechin-Templeton or something! dry.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-18 14:10:54
QUOTE(Vialli_No7 @ Dec 18 2006, 11:35 AM) [snapback]212846[/snapback]

Dear T.B.

Thank you for your kind words and let me tell you that they are of great comfort to me. No longer do I feel alone and estranged from the rest of society. Thanks to you and many others I can now hold my head high and call out loudly and some what proudly that I think Ant & /or Dec are Tw*ts!

Thank you all!

VN7
Fair enough, but as I said above I cant see the difference ( same script writers I think) between the two shows. Both are dull, predictable, over acted and over rated (some half arsed cockney saying Rodney you plonka! just isn't funny to me).

Both shows are so similar and like the great man Morrissey once wrote, " (they)say nothing to me about my life! "

Each to their own though and I know most (99%) of the population think you are correct and I'm happy to bow to theirs and your greater wisdom. Especially now I know I'm not alone on the Ant/Dec thing!

Does no one else think Catherine Tate is sh&*te though ohmy.gif

WTF is Catherine Tate? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-18 14:14:33
QUOTE(Ton Ton Macoute @ Dec 18 2006, 01:33 PM) [snapback]212868[/snapback]

SNO?

You mean the RSNO?
Do keep up wie things, they haven't been the SNO for about 15 years. blink.gif

Don be silly man-de word Royal-it upset

Dem Tims, dem Tims, dem fly Tims! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-18 14:18:23
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Dec 18 2006, 11:24 AM) [snapback]212844[/snapback]

Don't even start that pish with me. Besides, if I was a closet hun then I'd have been disowned by most of my family. Maybe I'm a closet tim.

Another cryptic comment from BH, but if you are one of

Dem Tims, dem Tims, dem fly Tims,

Don't worry-none of us is perfect. wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-18 14:21:08
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Dec 18 2006, 02:19 PM) [snapback]212894[/snapback]

Actually, I am.

In EVERY way?
mortonjag 2006-12-18 14:38:19
QUOTE(se65an @ Dec 18 2006, 11:18 AM) [snapback]212842[/snapback]

OK, I wil also listen tonight and let you know my thoughts on it all. smile.gif

Not long now.. biggrin.gif

Change of plan-I'm not going. My daughter's just had her first baby (due on Christmas Day) and we're off to see them tonight.

That's my third grandchild-another wee boy-surname is Hendry, so I guess they'll not be calling him Stephen (or Jesus for that matter).

Sean, can you please ask my MAIN question for tonight-DO THEY acknowledge the need for an experienced midfield 'motivator', and ARE they getting one?

Cheers.
mortonjag 2006-12-18 14:48:33
QUOTE(otter @ Dec 18 2006, 02:39 PM) [snapback]212897[/snapback]

Plenty - off the top of my head:

Peterhead 0 Morton 4
Stranraer Morton 3
Morton 4 Alloa 0
Forfar 1 Morton 3
Raith 1 Morton 3
Morton 3 Stranraer 0

Can we not all just agree to put this muppet on ignore?
What about all these games mentioned? Not only were they "put to bed", they were tucked in with a hot water bottle.
So once again, what's your point caller?

Phil.

The future's bright.....

We were playing better at the start of the season than now. Furthermore if you actually look carefully at those matches, the other side didn't turn up on two or three occasions. We were saved at Kircaldy by some individual brilliance from Sanny-no way was that game ever tucked up with its hot water bottle. Do you go to matches? If so try taking the blinkers off. smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-18 15:07:40
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 18 2006, 02:48 PM) [snapback]212898[/snapback]

In retrospect, the shot fired over the bar I was thinking of was from Finlayson, not McAllister, and that one definitely bobbled as he hit it.

That's right, and talking of Kev, IMO he's had a raw deal of late. It was a joke putting him up front against Stirling, but every time he's come on as a sub recently, and been allowed to play through the middle instead of stuck out on the wing (where he's useless) he's looked really positive, yet until recently Jamie wasn't producing, and Chris is still way off form.
mortonjag 2006-12-18 16:02:13
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Dec 18 2006, 03:08 PM) [snapback]212907[/snapback]

Something overly sinister about that question.

YOUR PARANOIA IS A DENIAL OF YOUR PREVIOUS ASSERTION.
mortonjag 2006-12-18 16:09:44
QUOTE(1insert_player_here @ Dec 18 2006, 04:02 PM) [snapback]212912[/snapback]

There are so many things wrong with that...

UNDOUBTEDLY, BUT AT LEAST HE'S MADE A REASONABLE EFFORT TO GET THE BODY OF OPINION FROM A FLAWED SYSTEM

AT THE END OF THE DAY IT'S DOWN TO PERSONAL TASTE ANYWAY

FOR ME IT'S A JOKE THAT MCGOWAN'S SITTING ABOVE WEATHERSON FOR EXAMPLE, BUT THERE YOU GO.
mortonjag 2006-12-19 07:24:23
QUOTE(cmdc @ Dec 19 2006, 12:33 AM) [snapback]213082[/snapback]

Gotta agree. The prime example for me was MortonJags post after what was an excellent result in Brechin. Even the point about putting games to bed, alright it wasn't put to bed maybe, but we scored three away from home which left an in form team ultimately with too much to do and kept us top of the league. The good thing is that views are becoming a bit more balanced than they were in the aftermath of the Forfar game when alot of people were just venting steam, but if we can't enjoy being top of the league then what can we enjoy? Remember we've been relegated from this division; we didn't race clear in the Third but we won it and that was more than enough - and wining the league should be more than enough to take from this season too.

'Rag of an unofficial site' coming from a jumped up little rich boy who's in the 'huff' because we have freedom of speech is rich enough, but you obviously see yourself as some unofficial censor of my posts.

Your opinion about the Brechin game is no more valid than mine, and if, as ArklesTON suggests, there is less anonymity on this board than I thought, no doubt somebody will know whose arse it is you're licking.

If I thought for one minute that revealing my family identity, our professional background, and our collective assets would cut any ice with the board, I'd be pleased to e-mail them with my views, but Crawford, son, your comment says it all. Get a life and grow up. This is a football club, not a wee sweetie factory.
mortonjag 2006-12-19 07:32:21
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Dec 18 2006, 10:45 PM) [snapback]213015[/snapback]

Cheers for the rundown. Frustrated that work stopped me getting down the road for it but it sounds like a positive night.

I guess Mortonjag somehow didn't make it as well as he was really going to let rip with his complaints. wacko.gif

By the way, I'm bringing 5 non Morton supporters to the Stirling game (and no they're not Stirling fans). Is there a competition to see who brings the most?

Actually it's now 4 non Morton fans. Maybe I won't win the prize after all.

I WAS-I am now a proud granddad for the third time, and seeing my daughter and the wean was priority.
mortonjag 2006-12-19 07:52:01 So the Board don't like us, and the arse lickers and sycophants are enjoying their 'day in the sun'. Well for my money this 'rag' does more for GMFC in one day than that 'Official' apology for a rag does in a whole season.

It's still a free country, we are ALL entitled to our opinions, and mine is that in any given week, greenockmorton.net often affords me more pleasure than the team's performance.

Anonymity does NOT equate to cowardice-far from it-it affords a totally equal value to posts which can be judged solely on merit, and it is clear that inappropriate posts will be deleted.


In that respect, I have considerably more faith in our Moderator's judgement than in that of the originator of the 'rag' comment, which is confrontational, and in its very essence censorious of those who love and support OUR club.
mortonjag 2006-12-19 08:11:27
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 19 2006, 08:02 AM) [snapback]213115[/snapback]

I'm pretty sure it was DDF that said it?

Then apologies to Crawford-we CAN admit our mistakes on this 'rag' but no marks to Daddy-IS he losing it?

His two page apology for the English language goes out shamelessly to the paying public at Scapa but this is a 'rag'-very good Sir. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-19 08:12:26
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Dec 19 2006, 08:08 AM) [snapback]213116[/snapback]

nop, definetelt Crawford who said it, although you maybe right in saying that DDF also reflected on it.

Ach well -two of a kind-and real bright sparks by the sound of it! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-19 08:15:02
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Dec 19 2006, 07:58 AM) [snapback]213112[/snapback]

The ability to express our opinion freely and anonymously is not in question . The personal critisism and unconstructive negative comments is what is being questioned here .

Opinion is one thing but some of the personal attack's on players and management should not be allowed face to face or online behind a user name !!

Are you some kind of 'defect'-HOW can you personally attack somebody miles away, while sitting at your keyboard-a bullet's wasted unless it hits a target.

Nobody is obliged to join in our debates, and we have a competent moderator, and 'Ignore function'.

Masochism however, exists, and if people want to put themselves in the firing line- let them join the fray!!!
mortonjag 2006-12-19 09:50:43
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Dec 19 2006, 08:24 AM) [snapback]213122[/snapback]

The Ignore function that most on this board have used to avoid most of your BORING and PREDICTABLE post's attacking the manager and chairman .

You ARE a 'defect'-you bleat about hiding behind anonymity, then claim to know the actions of 'MOST ON THIS BOARD'.

If I choose to make what you describe as 'negative' comments about the directors, players, or anybody else for that matter, and people put me on'ignore' because they're hurt that's fine-mind you it's usually the TRUTH that hurts most.

By all means start your own 'happy clappy' all is rosy club-there's nothing wrong with optimism Scott except that it frequently ends up in disappointment.

I'm all for a 'stitch in time' and will continue to state what I think.
mortonjag 2006-12-19 10:06:28
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 19 2006, 09:24 AM) [snapback]213139[/snapback]

The first sentence of the opening post in this thread rather sums up what is being complained about.

So the Board don't like us, and the arse lickers and sycophants are enjoying their 'day in the sun'. Well for my money this 'rag' does more for GMFC in one day than that 'Official' apology for a rag does in a whole season.

I support Douglas Rae and am grateful to him for saving my club. That does'nt mean I agree with everything he does but I cut him a bit of slack because his good points far, far outweigh his bad points. That, it seems, makes me an 'arse licker and sycophant'

Now I suspect that mortonjag is probably quite a decent bloke face to face and that he probably would not say these things if he were talking to me face to face. He can, however, on here characterise everyone who does not agree with his rants about Douglas Rae and the manager as an'arse licker and sycophant'.

Hey but its only a forum so no one should take offence eh??

I did put that badly-let me try again. Anybody who thinks that because Mr Rae is club Chairman, he is entitled to 'rubbish' a stimulating, informative, and pro active fans forum is deluded IMO.

Given DDFR's contributions to the 'Official' programme-the term 'rag' becomes risible, and it says to me a hell of a lot about this man's personality.

Yes Tonsilitis, we have got a lot to thank him for, but Hearts were all over Romanov at first also.

Actions speak louder than words.




'rag'.
mortonjag 2006-12-19 10:17:31
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Dec 19 2006, 09:58 AM) [snapback]213149[/snapback]

People dont put you on ignore because they are hurt its because they are bored or your
P!sh . Negative Predictable and Boring .

Forever an optimist

Scott Gillan (Not Hiding behind a User Name)

Negative, predictable and boring sounds an excellent description of much of the football we've seen this season. The minute I start seeing the positive, the innovative, and the entertaining on the pitch, you will see my posts change.

Forever a realist


Mortonjag (not hiding behind a user name, as I can be e-mailed or P.M.'d, and am happy to respond personally)
mortonjag 2006-12-19 10:30:10
QUOTE(Cawston @ Dec 19 2006, 09:42 AM) [snapback]213142[/snapback]

For the record of course it's not aimed at you, there's really only two or three posters that it is aimed at.

Folk like Arkelston, TiD and Hamcam make this board what it should be, a sound place with a good mix of opinion. I've got no problem at all with constructive criticism, of course everythings not all rosy we're still stuck in this bloody league.

All of these posters have proved time and again over the years that they see both sides and will give praise where it's due. (Although TiD seems to have gone off on one last night tongue.gif )

There are a couple who can't though, they constantly pick away at negatives and like it or not that's where the "rag" comment will have been aimed.

Someone mentioned the board police not allowing criticism of the club, try pointing out a positive in the week after a defeat and then you'll see the board police in action!

If players/staff should be able to take it then doesn't it work both ways?

Would YOU like to be first to point out what is positive about being defeated?

Those of us who 'constantly seem to be seeing only negatives' are just as entitled to voice opinions as anybody else, and when things improve, our attitudes will undoubtedly change.

If those 'negative' comments are so obviously unfair, I fail to see why you need to defend the unimpeachable, but of course that's not your agenda, is it?

I suspect you just need a big dose of reality, and if you swallow that, it won't be so hard to see others' points of view.
mortonjag 2006-12-19 10:40:21
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Dec 19 2006, 10:24 AM) [snapback]213159[/snapback]

In your opinion everyone on this forum is entitled to an opinion Correct?

Mr Rae rubbishing the fans forum is just him expressing his opinion Correct?

So why can we have our opinions and Mr Rae cant express his ??

Actions Speak louder than words ? There wasnt many actions at the Q & A last
night cause the Boo Boys decided to hide behind there keyboards !!!

Yer Barred !!
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mortonjag 2006-12-19 14:57:41
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Dec 19 2006, 02:19 PM) [snapback]213249[/snapback]

This point wasnt brought up by the anyone at Morton, it was brought up by a fan at the rally, they asked a question and got an answer. If they want to criticise this site then they are entitled to, if fans want to do the same about the team then they are entitled to, but ffs. Forget all this crap and get back to what we do best, support them, if folk dont like what they see they know the answer to that.

Encourage and support folks. C'mon the Ton

I don't think it has been suggested that ANYONE is not entitled to voice an opinion, but the the minute you open your mouth, or start typing, you invite assessment of that opinion, AND criticism-positive or otherwise.

What upsets me about the 'throw away' comment from DDFR is that it effectively ostracises our forum from GMFC-it's a 'Rag' he claims, yet most of our posters- myself included-attempt to acknowledge his good points even when he 'gets on our tits'.

Am I mistaken in my assessment of his question to Jim McInally? Was he not, as usual, being the overprotective 'mother hen' who can't let the brood out of her sight, and delights in forcing them to do party pieces to their huge embarrassment?

When I was at hospitality, he paraded Ryan Harding, and David McGurn through to answer our questions. Harding, in particular was blushing to the roots of his hair and looked as though he'd rather have been anywhere else.

I doubt if anybody at Scapa is willing to open his mouth and say what he really thinks, because this is DDFR's show, and if you pay the piper you're entitled to call the tune.

You don't HAVE to, though, and I just wish Dougie would stop running GMFC the way I assume he runs his sweetie factory, and learn to delegate.

I have probably been Jim McInally's fiercest critic of late, but if he can tolerate that old Jessie telling him what to do, he deserves a medal.


Ernie Newall
mortonjag 2006-12-19 15:13:04
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 19 2006, 03:08 PM) [snapback]213262[/snapback]

It was apparently not DDF that said it but Crawford.

I apologise-that had already been pointed out, but I think we can assume with a fair degree of certainty that he was echoing Daddy's sentiments, and if not, hopefully we'll get a retraction, if not an official apology in Saturday's contender for the Booker prize. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-19 15:59:38
QUOTE(Wanafff @ Dec 18 2006, 05:24 PM) [snapback]212955[/snapback]

MortonJag - I have read the thread, read everyone's comments, and to conclude that you are a waste of space. Basically unless you are going to do something about your views in a CONSTRUCTIVE fashion, I like most Morton fans, will ignore you.

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mortonjag 2006-12-19 16:01:56
QUOTE(suda @ Dec 19 2006, 12:45 AM) [snapback]213085[/snapback]

So MortonJag how did you get on telling Jim how it is at the rally? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I didn't- as you very well know-but my daughter was as delighted to see us as we were to see our new grandson. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-19 16:35:33 Since the 'unfortunate' comment about our beloved 'rag', we've had a huge variety of opinion about the goods and evils at Scapa.

I am indebted to Douglas Rae for his financial input-without him we WOULD be extinct, and he continues to bale us out.

I firmly believe that for the future success of Morton, his function should remain that of an underwriter-the running of a football club should be in the hands of delegees-each responsible for his own area.

Like it or not, despite his benevolence, what HE wanted-promotion to Division 1- has failed to materialise for two seasons, and well into a third we don't seem to be pulling away despite being favourites by a country mile.

Hence my question-who does what?

I have a very strong feeling that almost everything done at Scapa has to have the final seal of approval from the Chairman, and that he is both unable and unwilling to relinquish any perceived control by efficient delegation.

That is NOT good housekeeping, yet it would appear he has surrounded himself with a crowd of (to a greater or lesser degree) 'Yes' men.

Of course he OWNS the club, but what is a club without its fans, and Mr Rae most certainly doesn't own me or any of you fellow posters, without whom his efforts, however generous, would be wasted.

Instead of a thinly veiled disparagement of the wisdom of the 'ordinary fan' as
exposed by his son and mouthpiece, he would do well to read and seriously think about the comments on this board, instead of holding cosy little annual soirees which achieve very little in reality.

Ernie Newall
mortonjag 2006-12-19 16:49:49
QUOTE(Vialli_No7 @ Dec 19 2006, 04:47 PM) [snapback]213277[/snapback]

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mortonjag 2006-12-19 17:00:38
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Dec 19 2006, 04:26 PM) [snapback]213274[/snapback]

my name is chris silver and the phone number is 710309 , 10 finneston street . I don't claim to be the best supporter in the world but I do support the club . This however does not mean I shouldn't have an opinion now . just the same way I had an opinion during Hal Stewarts reign and all those that followed .
I find it distasteful in the extreme that any supporters who seem to ask any pressing questions are deemed unloyal or traitor to the cause .
If the sheep on here realised most who have a go at DDFR or McInally and his team still go to the games .
Mr Rae is pleading with us to bring people along while trying to distance fans for showing disquiet.
We are as much apart of the club as everyone else that includes the present members of the board.
Coaches and players have a natural turnover supporters are born .
While I have admiration for what Dougie has done for the club this should not give him carte blanche over individual opinion.
I don't post on my wee computer or hid behind anything any criticism is my honest opinion of what I see of the team .
I am happy to discuss my posts with anyone whether face to face or on the boards.

Couldn't agree with you more-it seems that we're not allowed to be critical of our 'leaders' and even when have the courage of our convictions, we are constantly vilified by the usual Board Quislings-or is it just that some folk are 'awful easy pleased'.

God forbid, but should we fail yet again to regain our rightful level in Scottish football, there will still be those who won't accept that it could have been avoided.
mortonjag 2006-12-19 17:10:34 It would have been nice to hear some intellectual response-hopefully that will come-but so far there is proof conclusive that DOUGLAS RAE IS BEYOND REPROACH.

Maybe I'm the pig headed blinkered idiot, and I'm missing something obvious, but I could have SWORN we're still in Division 2, and I could have SWORN McInally promised to go if that happened, and I could have SWORN that a hard headed businessman would have insisted on it, instead of retaining a manager over whom HE has control.
mortonjag 2006-12-19 17:14:14
QUOTE(brianc @ Dec 18 2006, 06:42 PM) [snapback]212968[/snapback]

Tried uninstalling software then reinstalling it no joy tried Roxio updates, registered to update, still heard nothing to activate the account to download the update, so i've got some software on order that will finally sort it out.
Thanks for your help!

Cheers Brian.
mortonjag 2006-12-19 17:19:07
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Dec 19 2006, 05:12 PM) [snapback]213292[/snapback]

I agree. tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2006-12-19 17:19:30
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Dec 19 2006, 05:16 PM) [snapback]213294[/snapback]

Seconded biggrin.gif

ScotinBelgie

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mortonjag 2006-12-20 09:06:32
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 18 2006, 10:46 PM) [snapback]213018[/snapback]

Jim McInally confirmed that we are talking to Grady from Gretna but with a contract to the end of the season and an option for another year. Thats reasonable given his age. He also said he was talking to a young guy who is quote 'scoring plenty' I would speculate therefore that said player must be from this division or the third as any young lad scoring plenty in a higher league won't be coming to us (unless he's scoring plenty for the reserves!!)

Queens' TempleTON has just been voted young player of the month-AND he's amateur so would cost us nothing.
mortonjag 2006-12-20 09:18:37
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Dec 19 2006, 05:49 PM) [snapback]213306[/snapback]

Lad has a point

The 'ignore' function is used by the over sensitive-who probably shouldn't be on the forum anyway, and by those who are incapable of putting a logical counter argument, and find that throwing insults cuts no ice.
mortonjag 2006-12-20 09:24:41
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Dec 18 2006, 04:24 PM) [snapback]212921[/snapback]

Are those capitals a mistake or are you genuinely that angry? Getting yourself in a frenzy for tonight maybe?

I WASN'T ANGRY-I NEVER GET ANGRY mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-20 12:59:56
QUOTE(Zutons @ Dec 19 2006, 07:41 PM) [snapback]213325[/snapback]

thirded laugh.gif
merry christmas by the way (belgie)

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mortonjag 2006-12-20 13:00:24
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Dec 19 2006, 05:45 PM) [snapback]213301[/snapback]

Mr Total Negative, away and take a plunge in the Clyde and waken yerself up

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mortonjag 2006-12-20 13:01:03
QUOTE(Cawston @ Dec 19 2006, 07:39 PM) [snapback]213324[/snapback]

Well Earnie,
I'm not sure of the exact job descriptions but I'm fairly certain the average task would be along the lines of Gillian writing your address on the envelope, McInally holding the envelope open and Crawford taking a sh!t in it.

The final seal of approval would almost certainly be the Chairmans.

Obviously they really just sit about smoking and plotting the next dastardly defeat, thanks for bringing it to our attention on your board. ohmy.gif

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mortonjag 2006-12-20 13:02:04
QUOTE(TonGa @ Dec 20 2006, 08:25 AM) [snapback]213423[/snapback]

You sir are a bawbag...and a bore to boot. I rest my case! tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2006-12-20 13:08:33
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Dec 20 2006, 10:08 AM) [snapback]213445[/snapback]

You, me and presumably all the contributors to this forum, pay for our tickets, buy scarves, raffle tickets, programmes etc. Therefore in return for our support we are entitled to express our opinion. Some we will agree with others we will not.

Douglas Rae supports the club financially, he saved it from extinction and in return for that he gets to run the club. It’s not a democracy. It’s his money, he earned it. You don’t have to agree with him.

Yes we are the fans and no club can survive without their fans, but the club can’t survive without Douglas Rae either, this leaves us with uneasy alliance of a group of disparate people who all share a common goal. A successful Morton.

If you a have any solid evidence that Douglas Rae is acting in a detrimental way towards Morton Football Club then let us hear it.

We seem to have come a long way from the dark days of near extinction.
No one ever said it was going to be easy. We will win this league this season. It’s time to cut out all the negativity and get fully behind the players, coaches and management. No ifs, no buts no maybes.

COME ON THE TON.

How nice to read an intelligent post for a change. I agree with everything you say, and I have no CONCRETE evidence that his autocracy is harmful. I simply base my case on probability. I do not believe he is able to delegate effectively, and there is concrete evidence in abundance to suggest that that is not usually best for any business.
mortonjag 2006-12-20 13:20:58
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 20 2006, 12:20 AM) [snapback]213399[/snapback]

I think Cawston has it! The fact is that most of the people who have been critical of the chairman/his/manager for daring to describe this forum as 'a rag' were not at the meeting and therefore did not pick up the overall context of two little words in quite a few spoken about the impact of the the forum.

The usual suspects (and some others who surprised me like TiD) have then used it to go off on one about the chairman. If you look at the responses from those who were at the meeting, they are mostly supportive of DDFR.

I've posted on this forum since its start and on its predecessor and there is no doubt that the negativity is much worse nowadays than it has ever been. Some of us find the fact virtually every thread is turned by some to repeat ad nauseum their particular gripes about DDFR/Jim McInally/various players a bit wearing and its driving some traditional posters away from the site because frankly, they are sick of it.

Saturday's result was typical. Before the game every true supporter would have taken any kind of win against Brechin. We got it and for the first 20 minutes until the pitch prevented it, played some great football. Guys like Mortonjag and Arkleston use it to say how sh1t the whole set up is and Mortonjag in particular has his 157th go at the manager. FFS we won away against one of the best teams in the league! Mortonjag, we know you don't like the manager. Its noted, you don't have to telll us again.

A lot of important stuff about the club was talked about last night. January signings, the youth set up, the managers thoughts on the players we have, development of Cappielow, etc, etc, all of which were answered honestly imho but what gets the biggest coverage? A throwaway line from the chairman's son about the impact this forum in the context of the impact it might have on players.

Says a lot about some peoples priorities.

Listen to me Sir-IF I have criticised the manager 157 times-surely you haven't been counting- it's not that I felt I had to or even wanted to.

What you don't state is that every time ANYBODY criticises him about three other posters aggressively jump to his defence, often citing ridiculous 'evidence' to support the case.

That, more than anything, is what irritates me-is the point taken?
mortonjag 2006-12-20 13:32:34
QUOTE(Toby @ Dec 20 2006, 01:09 PM) [snapback]213484[/snapback]

I'm a self confessed boo boy, and I've got no shame in it whatsoever.

And by the way, my name's Russell Gordon, not hiding behind my user name like Scott's dad accused me of when he went on that ridiculous rant about how he should be the new mascot when we were concentrating on winning a championship a few years ago instead of such a poxy irrelevant subject that was nothing more than a massage for his ego.

And speaking of egos, no, I didn't go the other night because I'm sick of Rae trying to flog s***ey merchandidse and listening to the pish he spouts. I regularly buy the programme through habit as I've got a massive collection of the things but Rae's articles sicken me.

Rae will never be a Hugh Scott, but this is a football club, not a pedestal to put himself on and portray himself as some sort of leader of men as he seems to enjoy doing with his (happily less frequent) pre-match rallying calls and his (unfortunately regular) inane programme ramblings.

And criticising the fans for a crowd of 1900 at the Forfar game, what a f***ing insult.

A couple of points to consider Mr Rae,

1. The game was a few weeks before Christmas, crowds all round the country go down at this time of year.

2. As a result, people with families have to prioritise their spending/ leisure time.

3. The football is s***e at the moment. Having been to every game this season, I have really enjoyed one. The St. Johnstone game.

4. As for your bring a friend stuff, I actually brought a mate from East Kilbride through for the Forfar game. He enjoyed his day, yes, but it was more because he got a day out on the drink. The most complimentary thing he said about the game was that Weatherson looks a right good player. Nothing else. You're in a consumer-driven industry and the product at the moment isn't entertaining enough. That's no fault of the fans.

5. As for personal vendettas, yes, I've got two. Regardless of what he does this season, I will never forgive Chris Templeman. He got out when the going got tough last season and the only reason he's back here is because he couldn't get as good a deal elsewhere. Chris, hope you're reading this and rest assured, I'll tell you that to your face next time I see you. I've already voiced my opinions on Jim the Tim on the "Taxi for McInally?" thread.

I'll continue to go no matter how bad the football is, but to slaughter those who's money you are wanting is despicible.

Yours' aye,

Toby.

Toby, I agree with much of what you say, but even less than 48 hours after the 'rally' I think you're 'flogging a dead horse' on the DDFR thing.

The majority of people seem willing to be more patient than you or me, and many of them still feel that they can't criticise him because he's the 'Boss', and saved our skins.
mortonjag 2006-12-20 14:29:07
QUOTE(Albundy @ Dec 20 2006, 09:50 AM) [snapback]213440[/snapback]

Moderator could we not create a new sub forum for the merry band of whingers to voice their gloom and doom , call it something like the "Not backing the team or the manager when we have just won and are top of the league forum" or the "Morton whingers forum" anyone else got any suggestions ? laugh.gif

Away and gie's peace you whinging muppet.
mortonjag 2006-12-20 14:30:45
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 20 2006, 02:26 PM) [snapback]213516[/snapback]

Very intellectual responses indeed.
You ruin any valid points that you raise by being a complete tool.

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mortonjag 2006-12-20 14:31:10
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Dec 20 2006, 02:30 PM) [snapback]213520[/snapback]

Second that

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mortonjag 2006-12-20 14:37:02
QUOTE(TonGa @ Dec 20 2006, 02:35 PM) [snapback]213527[/snapback]

Woo hoo you are getting more articulate by the minute tongue.gif put me on ignore lol.

f*ck of you apology for an imbecile smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-20 15:02:22
QUOTE(TonGa @ Dec 20 2006, 02:56 PM) [snapback]213538[/snapback]

Ooooooo get you! rolleyes.gif Got you!

Only kidding, but sometimes it's fun to lower myself to the level of the average poster-only SOMETIMES mind you! cool.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-20 15:48:39
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 20 2006, 03:22 PM) [snapback]213547[/snapback]

On many occasions I have vented my frustration regarding the way DDFR runs the club, but you on the other hand just vent frustration - even when the team have a victory, and I think you will find I raised concerns over DDFR's interference many moons ago, but I STILL applaud the man for having the balls to put his money where his mouth was when he decided to relinquish H.S of control over the club.

Be a little bit more contructive and now and then it would be nice to praise where praise is due and maybe, just maybe people on here will take you seriously.
At the moment the opinion of you is a s***-stirrer, not a Morton supporter.
Maybe you are in fact NOT a Morton fan and are indeed just a s***-stirrer, who knows. rolleyes.gif

Why don't you get some facts right before you spout-the ONLY thing I have consistently praised him for is investing his cash to save our skins, so otherwise where do we differ? YOU are entitled to vent your frustration, and YOU are entitled to raise concerns, but I am not allowed to be disappointed when we yet again struggle in a game we should have buried.

It's three months now since McInally got the MOTM award, so clearly independent opinion thinks others are better than him at the moment. Have you complained to them as well just because they don't agree with you?

Finally, I am getting totally sick of point scoring posters who speak for all-'At the moment THE opinion of you' etc.

I've been a Ton fan all my life, and have supported them through thick and thin. That does not mean I have to wear blinkers.
mortonjag 2006-12-20 16:04:38
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 20 2006, 03:25 PM) [snapback]213548[/snapback]

I agree totally, if it was down to me I would have the so called fans who continually lambast the players do it to their faces and let them take it from there.

If it was down to you, you'd appoint yourself official board censor, and then rush arse lickingly for approval from your faultless heroes. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-20 16:32:28
QUOTE(Marshall2oo6 @ Dec 20 2006, 04:18 PM) [snapback]213558[/snapback]

It means u should try n show a bit or support but and not use every opportunity you get to get a dig in at the club.

I support the club with my money and my feet-including travelling to every game -home and away-and contributing to the trust. I never boo the players, and am sympathetic towards them regularly on this forum.

I believe the club is capable of a helluva lot more from the present squad, and have regularly identified the weaknesses as being the management and Board-that is not-as you suggest-using every opportunity to get a dig at the club.
mortonjag 2006-12-20 16:41:12
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 20 2006, 04:36 PM) [snapback]213565[/snapback]

Good to hear that, hope your wee purple coupon is bursting with anger for anyone having the cheek to defend our manager.

You have the right to criticise, just as those who want to defend him have that right, but none of that matters to you anyway, because your right, right!

I've never denied anybody the right to defend him-it's just that I'd like to hear some intelligent, and well thought out arguments instead of the usual 'We're still top of the league so he's brilliant' s***e.
mortonjag 2006-12-21 13:54:14
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Dec 21 2006, 01:33 AM) [snapback]213726[/snapback]

Weatherston plays for Queen's Park. David Templeton plays for Stenhousemuir and is being chased by a lot of big(gish) teams.

I assume you are meaning Weatherston as he won the SFL young player of the month. He is also being watched by plenty of other teams, Aberdeen possibly one of them.

Yes JonaTon --The Templeman, Weatherson, Templeton, Weatherston thing can be confusing at my age!
mortonjag 2006-12-21 14:03:09
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 20 2006, 11:32 PM) [snapback]213703[/snapback]

I have read some venemous and quite frankly disgusting comments about the Chairman,Manager and various players. I believe it's time to start treating these people with some respect. No more vile name calling or personal abuse.

I understand this is a football forum and posters have their opinions about our Club and the plight we currently find ourselves in. Yes we can disagree with our Chairman or Management. We can give opinions on what we think the best players are, and who should be involved in our next game and what formation our team should adopt.
But resorting to personal abuse to get these points over is unnaceptable.

Show some respect !!

The Chairman, Manager, and various players won't pay any attention to the scurrilous , venemous, disgusting and vile comments posted on this RAG by a shower of uncultured, uneducated disrespectful mother f*cking c*nts, who aren't fit to lick their hallowed arses.

RESPECT is earned Colkitto-get a life you retard! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-21 14:09:15
QUOTE(diablo ton 1 @ Dec 20 2006, 08:54 PM) [snapback]213648[/snapback]

I never bothered to read down to the last comment. Everything is just being recycled, only the words are different.

The one thing that does bother me and I see it all the time on this board is the criticism of Dougie AND Crawford.

The reason this bothers me is ANYONE can criticise, the hard part is to provide the solution over and over again.

Anyone who wants to criticise anyone, should be constructive, i.e. provide a solution or better alternative than the one we have. This way the people involved and this forum can be CONSTRUCTIVE and not destructive.

At the same time, everybody needs to understand the cash limitations of the club is no different from yourself. You cannot spend the money you don't have and why should it be expected the board should put more money into the club than it already has.

Yes supporters are entitled to criticise, but what is your solution for the problems we have? From what I see too often on this forum, the posters rip into the players, management, fellow supporters and not one person offers a solution.

TIME FOR A REALITY CHECK.

Just another thought, how many other clubs do you think the board try to link with the fans the way we do? Do you think any of the clubs above us do the same?

Let me know........................

Rubbish-firstly, you don't have to know the solution to a problem to see and say something's wrong.

Secondly, when I criticise, I always say what I think should be changed and usually suggest an alternative.

Thirdly-are you Crawford Rae? smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-21 14:21:06
QUOTE(MrX @ Dec 21 2006, 02:09 PM) [snapback]213819[/snapback]

You really are a sad sad character.... spouting sh*te all the time and have probably never kicked a ball in you life. Grow up, and let others have an opinion too, prick.

PRICK-I'll take that as a compliment coming from you! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-21 14:24:04
QUOTE(Vialli_No7 @ Dec 21 2006, 02:16 PM) [snapback]213825[/snapback]

Good God, I've had enough now. That's it!
MJ, you've lost yet another poster to argue your twisted and bitter and often convoluted points with.

As of now I have you on ignore and I wonder just how many other people or even what percentage from this board have got you on ignore.

I seriously think you have a problem and I don't see why the whole of the On-line Morton support should collectively act as some kind of virtual carer.

I wish you a happy (ier) life .

VN7

Are you totally THICK-you certainly can't spot the most obvious tongue in cheek tease, you jumped up little cretin. wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-21 14:50:35
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 20 2006, 09:48 PM) [snapback]213667[/snapback]

The latest tirade against the Chairman/Chairman's son/manager relates to a web based fans forum i.e. this one. Very little about the real important matters discussed at the meeting. Now you Morton Jag, Ernie or whatever name you wish to go under were one of the main protaganists - thread called 'the value of anonimity' or the one called 'who does what at Morton?'

These were just chances to reiterate your personal concerns about the manager and chairman which are clearly not supported by a majority of the rest of we 'arse lickers'. You take every opportunity to castigate the manager, the chairman and certain players (e.g. McAllister) and I am sick of it. I have no objection to you having your opinion and making it known on here but I don't like every thread being turned into an anti Mcinally rant. I don't like it in the way I don't like religious fundamentalists thrusting their point of view forward as being the only way to look at things. I don't like the fact that it may be damaging our club by making our chairman think he should maybe just go and let someone else take the vitriol. I don't like the fact that it might damage the recipients of your cack.

In one thread you compared DDFR to Romanov at Hearts. Do you think Mr Romonaov would make the efforts to engage the fans the way DDFR does? He's not perfect but he's a lot better than most clubs have so F off.

As for defending the manager in a constructive way, how can we, when only your point of view matters? If Alex Ferguson or Mourinho was managing Morton, I suspect he would be criticised by you. My opinion is that changing managers at this point in a season when we are top of the league would be stupid beyond reason.

I won't say it again because hopefully you know how I feel. I confirm that I know your thoughts and I don't need to hear them again.

Let's get one thing out of the road since you clearly DON'T read my posts objectively-I have NEVER castigated McAlister, or any other player. I HAVE often pointed out that they don't perform best when played out of position-THAT IS NOT THE PLAYERS FAULT.

Who do you think you are to tell me what I can and can't, or should and shouldn't post on an open forum? I do value the equalising function of anonymity, but was not afraid to publish my name when challenged.

So far as my 'tirade' against the Chairman's son is concerned, I merely alluded to his coming across as a jumped up brat in his disparaging comments about our forum-no more.

Your cryptic 'arse lickers' comment is-CRYPTIC-yet another who speaks for all.

Your laughable postulations about the DAMAGE one poster on a RAG might be causing are-LAUGHABLE.

I did not compare Romanov to Rae except to state that the former had been welcomed with open arms for his financial involvement and that that has changed. Romanov, I agree, does not invite the fans to an annual 'Vlad the bad' ' show-he just DOES what he wants instead of PRETENDING to listen-so YOU f*** off.

Your Ferguson and Mourinho comments have got to be a wind up-how dare you mention them in the same sentence as McInally-they were appointed by astute directors for their experience.

And finally, you'll have to swallow your words if and when we do start punching our weight. I will be the first to acknowledge and praise it, and it can't come too soon.
mortonjag 2006-12-21 14:58:08
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Dec 21 2006, 07:36 AM) [snapback]213747[/snapback]

Prostitutes do laugh.gif

Only if it's give AND take! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-22 07:25:20
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 21 2006, 07:50 PM) [snapback]213895[/snapback]

Was wondering that myself. unsure.gif

Jag was early in bed-finding it hard to cope with all the slagging and insults especially at this time of year-very sensitive really. sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-22 07:28:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 21 2006, 02:55 PM) [snapback]213844[/snapback]

if and when we do start punching our weight. I will be the first to acknowledge and praise it, and it can't come too soon.
Gidday Mortonjag,

last time I looked we had 39 points, mate.

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Merry Christmas-you've more chance of snow than us!

I know, but I was thinking of us more in the Muhammad Ali mode than the 'Enery Cooper!

Flies like a butterfly and floats like a bee-what a boxer.
mortonjag 2006-12-22 07:38:21
QUOTE(Vialli_No7 @ Dec 21 2006, 02:49 PM) [snapback]213841[/snapback]

Name calling, how clever.

Of course I am all too familiar with your sense of humour and there for well aware that your first paragraph was for the benefit of someone's amusement. However, If you were to take the time to look at my post you'd have seen that I highlighted the sentence that gave me the reason to post.

PS
No, I don't have you on Ignore yet I haven't worked out how to do it yet, but then maybe that's because I'm a thick cretin.

I WAS poking fun at Colkitto, but making a serious point too Vialli. 'Respect' has a helluva lot to answer for in this country (doctors, the clergy, and the police, for example have often been guilty of abuse of that 'privilege'), and SHOULD NOT be synonymous with status.

Why the boss of a very small provincial sweetie factory should suddenly merit RESPECT for saving a bankrupt football club defeats me.

I am grateful to Douglas Rae for that, but as I scarcely know the man, I can not say that I respect him.
mortonjag 2006-12-22 09:10:45
QUOTE(diablo ton 1 @ Dec 21 2006, 03:54 PM) [snapback]213871[/snapback]

Still laughing mortonjag.

What you say is the problem, you (not you, but people, particuarly football fans) see something you don't like and immediately begin to raise voices. Think about the consequences........................

The problem we have here is everyone seems to be an expert in football and business management. Any business manager will tell you never to micromanage, take care of the big things (things that really matter) and the small things take care of themselves, because people will naturally do the small things instinctively because they understand the big picture.

As I said before, most people in business reognise and understand the things that don't work for a business, but the solution may not be practical at the time or out of reach due to costs or whatever. Maybe the board are at that stage.................

The bottom line here is as I said, and this is not directed at anyone in particular, but words of wisdom,,,,,,, if you don't have a practical solution shut your big gub. If you have a solution, offer your ideas to the people that matter in a manner, which you can be taken seriously and with respect. You will be amazed at how people listen when you treat them the way you would like to be treated also.

Aw ra best to everyone..............

An a' ra best to you too you wee devil.

I recently retired after years of running a successful business.

I set my 28 year old son up in recruitment just two years ago with a start up of 20K. His pre tax profits for the last accounting year exceeded £1,000,000, and he's going from strength to strength. All his skills have been learned from myself and friends-he has no business qualifications.

I have no 'hands on' experience of running a football club, but worked extremely hard at 'man management' and delegation for years.

Furthermore I have professional qualifications in psychology, medicine, and counselling.

Most people respond positively to courtesy and encouragement, and will grasp the opportunity to perform well in return-I've known that for a long, long time.

Now-to the point of your post-I DON'T know the details of how things are run at Morton, so how can I possibly offer a viable proposition. That does NOT mean that I, or some others who post here, would be incapable of making a reasonable job of things.

I CAN only comment on what I see-my opinions will often be wrong, but NOT always, and at the end of the day, please believe me when I tell you that much of my vitriol on the forum is the result of an undying love for the Ton.

I am DESPERATE to see us back where we belong. I BELIEVE we should have done it one, if not two seasons ago, and I AM TERRIFIED that we might blow it yet again and that Dougie will have had enough.

I know we are top of the league, but in my experience complacency is one of business's biggest enemies.

Finally, I would be happy to make suggestions to the Board if I really thought for one minute they'd listen, but absolutely everything I've observed, read, and heard about DDFR, convinces me that that would be pointless.
mortonjag 2006-12-22 09:25:40 Raith will be up for it I know. I'm just praying we take control of this game from the kick off, and don't let them come at us.

We're totally capable of winning 3-0, but then we ALWAYS ARE in this division.

C'mon lads, put a smile on this grumpy old c*nt's face for once! huh.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-22 09:30:44
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Dec 20 2006, 08:48 PM) [snapback]213643[/snapback]

Too far away, couldn't be arsed paying £6 odd to listen to a senile old fart havering.

'SENILE OLD FART' indeed, ThornTON-you are a naughty, naughty boy-Show some respect please-it's comments like those that cheapen this publication.

Goodness knows, somebody will soon be calling it a 'tabloid' or worse a 'RAG'.

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mortonjag 2006-12-22 09:33:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 22 2006, 07:54 AM) [snapback]214011[/snapback]

Merry Christmas-you've more chance of snow than us!

Gidday Guru,

yet once again you prove your wisdom...

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=94993

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Wow cool.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-22 09:38:38
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 22 2006, 07:52 AM) [snapback]214010[/snapback]

Gidday guru,

I agree with you 110% sir.

I had a lot of respect for DDFR in the 1950s when my grandfather took me to DDFR's wee sweetie shop in Ann Street.

However, I was very impressionable in those days.

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Deja vu sir-my mum's auntie Bella (Main) owned a wee sweetie shop until, I think, the early fifties, and I am certain it was at the top of Ann St., just round the corner from Trafalgar St., but it's a LONG time ago!
mortonjag 2006-12-22 09:50:22
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 20 2006, 12:06 PM) [snapback]213466[/snapback]

I thought he was potentially an excellent footballer but everything else you've said is spot on.

If he'd got an 8 game ban but decided to jump ship instead of "doing time" while at Morton I'd be absolutely raging at him for being so selfish as to abandon the campaign halfway through. I can't believe the Dundee fans on P&B who are so indulgent of him.

I could forgive the odd sending off here and there while at Cappielow but an eight game ban is a total disgrace; to throw in the towel and not even see out your contract is even worse.

I have sympathy for what's come before in his life but this particular instance is his own stupid fault.

I agree with you-I was fiercely defensive of Andy while he was with us, and I endorse TonTastic's comments on this thread, but it's become a 'Scott Harrison' type situation.

He's a 33 year old man, and I'm beginning to realise that he's incapable of controlling his addictions AND personality at the same time. It's a shame, but it happens.

Anyway Andy, I still wish you better luck in the future.
mortonjag 2006-12-22 09:54:16
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 22 2006, 09:49 AM) [snapback]214029[/snapback]

Oooofff...you go away for a few days and everyone's at each others' throats.
I didn't go to the rally for two reasons: 1) I was in Leeds working and 2) I didn't want to.
We're back to the cheerleading point again. I have been critical of the club in the past from the Chairman (mainly the Chairman if I'm being honest) to the players but have never once got insulting or personal. I'd like to think that I've never really got too personal with anyone on here either and if I have I apologise. I am always suspicious of those who think Chairmen are 'saviours' of a club, for example, Hugh Scott was grovelled over by many Morton fans before they realised what was going on but by that time it was nearly curtains.
The point I'm making is that I am a fan but I am also a paying customer as well as a rational, intellegent adult and I can formulate opinions on whatever and whoever I want.
As one or two others have pointed out respect is earned. I find it odd on here that the most sceptical and the older guys and the ones most likely to be so far up DDFR's arse that they could clean the inside of his hat are the young. Get a bit of spirit about you. Fight the power. When I was young....waffle, waffle, etc, etc.


You ARE just a youngster DM-still in your thirties we agreed! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-22 09:58:02 I'm doing my best to keep the spirit of Christmas for the next few days-honest-so rather than make any comment on the wisdom or otherwise of missing out on potential business-I WON'T rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-22 10:03:19 For me it's not about how much he's worth-more, is he a priority?

If we're even 'sniffing' at figures like 100K, I'd be targeting a seasoned midfielder, and maybe even a full back with the change.
mortonjag 2006-12-22 10:07:24
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Dec 22 2006, 09:43 AM) [snapback]214027[/snapback]

Are you not proud to be posting on this rag.
Bye the way, merry christmas to you Mr Jag.

And a merry Christmas to you too fellow Toonie-oh AND A SPECIALLY MERRY ONE TO ALL THOSE WHO'VE GOT ME ON 'IGNORE'!!! smile.gif

Edit to add I just spotted the rhyme
The grey matter's wasted, and those things take time.
mortonjag 2006-12-22 10:24:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 21 2006, 04:28 PM) [snapback]213878[/snapback]

the jagman knows all.

I think he is my guru.

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Give a shag as they nick your swag Cobber!
mortonjag 2006-12-22 10:35:32
QUOTE(Chris Davidson @ Dec 21 2006, 04:56 PM) [snapback]213893[/snapback]

NOT young, unfortunately NewTon! (Well, not in 'real' terms, but still run about like a wee boy nearly every night seeing groups and running The Pineapple Club...Will be 51 on Christmas Day - got 2 grandweans!!).

Never thought I'd be picked up on exaggerating about 50 pence!!! Was probably more like 5 shillings or 2 and 6 (half a crown)?

Aye Chris, you brought a smile to my face too with your nostalgic tale. My Auntie Kate took us three brothers to Largs for the day on 27th January 1951, and we did most of the things you describe.

The reason I remember the date-when we got back to our top floor room and kitchen tenement (10 Argyle St in the Port) we had a new baby sister!

Mind you 'Shove the tuppence'? We only had farthings, halfpennies, pennies, threepenny bits (two different kinds-one mainly for clootie dumplings), tanners, shillings, two bob bits, half crowns, crowns (but they rarely circulated) and of course the pinnacle of childhood wealth-the ten bob note.

The good old days-can it be that it was all so simple then, or has time rewritten every line etc. I'm startin' tae greet. unsure.gif

mortonjag 2006-12-22 10:40:44 Did you know you were not only born on the shortest day of the year, but share a birthday with Joseph Stalin!

Anyhow-hope you enjoyed yourself.
mortonjag 2006-12-22 10:46:38
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Dec 22 2006, 10:38 AM) [snapback]214058[/snapback]

Agree with everything you said apart from the dig at the end. Still generally a well constructed post. I salute you.

laugh.gif AND his indefatiguability-always comes back for more and can't spot a 'piss take' in his soup-anyway MERRY CHRISTMAS Vialli. smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-22 11:02:44
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Dec 21 2006, 01:20 AM) [snapback]213725[/snapback]

At a boys club game is there not a requirement in having present a First aider and there is a requirement to possess a coaching certificate ? Again I was only stating at how badly organised the whole thing was .
I would and should have expected better from Jim McInally who came from Celtics Youth team structure to ensure tha the basic criteria was met and the club were beyond reproach . Joe McLaughlin had his doubters but I didn't think one mans departure could cause such a void.
So you are admitting that the club failed to properly back up Chris ,Peter and Jason last season . So who do you blame for this and if so how can you now so readily defend their judgement.
Just because Jim McColl hasn't had a call or he is not telling us that is hardly surprising when you see the reaction of those in charge to any criticism . Perhaps parents feel the same as other posters that your opinions and concerns are not welcome or valid .
If you are angry don't be at all shy and speak to me I standby everything I say . I'll be at the match Saturday and my phone number is 710309 .

I know very little about what goes on behind the scenes, but it seems more and more obvious that we're NOT planning for the future. Most folk seem to think that promotion will do at any cost, but what then?

The same message keeps coming back each time the Board is discussed-it's the Dougie Rae show-I DO think we'll get promoted this season, but we are already making things difficult for ourselves, and it will be harder in most areas in division 1

I've been criticised elsewhere for not offering a viable alternative, but on another post I suggested DDFR could 'take a back seat' and appoint a salaried 'Director of football' while retaining honorary chairmanship of the Club.

I even gave a financial projection in terms of addressing the current 150k annual deficit.

Needless to say, I hardly had any response to that from those who continually 'rubbish' me

The truth is that GMFC could be run much more effectively-so why is nothing being done to sort matters?
mortonjag 2006-12-22 11:06:38
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Dec 22 2006, 10:53 AM) [snapback]214064[/snapback]

Always loved that word. Shades of George Galloway there.

I WAS paraphrasing the gorgeous one!

Incidentally there is no such word in the dictionary-it should be indefatiguableness-but it tripped off his tongue as he rammed it up Saddam's arse, and has now virtually found its way into our language!
mortonjag 2006-12-22 11:14:53 Can anyone explain why tickets for the Killie match don't go on sale 'til 4.45 tomorrow-is there some SFA regulation or what?

If not, it seems a topsy turvy marketing exercise-forcing people to queue in the cold and dark when they just want home, AND, God forbid, risking a bad display against Raith when we've just come off two wins.

I guess they just imagine they'll sell the stand out anyway, and haven't given it much thought, but they could easily have put them on sale from, say, 2.15 tomorrow.
mortonjag 2006-12-22 11:28:37 Is the 'free bottle of bubbly' one of those fancy looking bottles of perry you get on the Limo nights-you know the ones that retail in the Cash 'n' Carry for about £3 each? wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-22 11:41:19 unsure.gif
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 20 2006, 02:43 PM) [snapback]213531[/snapback]

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mortonjag 2006-12-22 11:45:47
QUOTE(Patg @ Dec 22 2006, 11:35 AM) [snapback]214073[/snapback]

No . Its French Bubby . I got a deal on it as its end of line product so I decided to use it as a marketing tool .

It tastes of apples and has a pleasent aftertaste . Not harsh and bitter like normal ones

Sounds like Merrydown!

Is it actual Champagne though-most people think 'bubbly' is champagne-if it is that's a good 'promo'.
mortonjag 2006-12-22 12:08:53
QUOTE(RankinBorn75 @ Dec 22 2006, 10:18 AM) [snapback]214046[/snapback]

I thought the SUN was the hottest thing ever .. she is a ride though

Don't you mean HE? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-22 12:10:14
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Dec 22 2006, 01:53 AM) [snapback]213990[/snapback]

Is she the hottest thing ever?



EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDGood gracious, I AM getting old-that's a picture of a wee lassie!
mortonjag 2006-12-22 12:13:24
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Dec 22 2006, 12:07 PM) [snapback]214086[/snapback]

It's still a fab word. I love the english language. Belligerent is one of my favourites.

Mine's discombobulated-my favourite word I mean! dry.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-22 12:17:50 Welcome to the forum from its girniest old whinger! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-22 12:21:40
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Dec 22 2006, 12:15 PM) [snapback]214091[/snapback]

You almost left me like that there, until I looked it up. Yip liking that word also.

My favourite pair

Cantankerous curmudgeon!

No doubt somebody will wrongly work out that I'm obtusely describing our Chairman. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-22 12:25:37
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Dec 22 2006, 12:15 PM) [snapback]214090[/snapback]

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDHow do you get them to undress Iain?-I've tried all the combinations I know, but maybe there's something wrong with my 'enter' function.
mortonjag 2006-12-22 13:14:08
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 22 2006, 12:32 PM) [snapback]214097[/snapback]

Why don't you and then form your own ideas of ddfr, i am sure they would welcome your suggestions.

I'm very sceptical Bryan, because it would effectively mean telling him he's not doing his job properly, and I doubt if that would be welcome. I WILL think about it though.
mortonjag 2006-12-22 13:16:42
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 22 2006, 01:15 PM) [snapback]214121[/snapback]

He did ask for ideas to generate more income...

Mmm! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-22 13:17:55
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Dec 22 2006, 12:42 PM) [snapback]214102[/snapback]

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Some people think that about you.

SOME !!! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-22 13:18:24
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Dec 22 2006, 01:07 PM) [snapback]214117[/snapback]

Some of you f***ers need to get a life dry.gif

phucking philistine! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-22 13:21:46
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Dec 22 2006, 01:18 PM) [snapback]214124[/snapback]

FFs man, why dont you go down and do what ye have to do so we dont have listen to all your ramblings on here all the time. You my man are one moaning bastard.

If the truth be told AT, I've just presented what I think is a very reasonable statement of where I'm coming from-by all means give me some CONSTRUCTIVE feedback, as Bryan has done, but otherwise put me on ignore and give me peace. smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-22 13:24:13
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Dec 22 2006, 12:43 PM) [snapback]214104[/snapback]

oh well why is mortonjag whining? oh wait, I know...

Because Mortonjag is old and decrepit, and wants a seat you Muppet! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-22 13:29:50
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 22 2006, 01:26 PM) [snapback]214130[/snapback]

Is that the contructive reply?

Indeed-you'd be surprised how many of the world's problems can be fixed in bed unshaven one. smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-22 13:32:52
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Dec 22 2006, 01:25 PM) [snapback]214129[/snapback]

Why would i put you on ignore, ive no reason to, just think you should give things a break from the negativity which you have presented constantly lately mellow.gif

Sorry?

Would you like to explain what's negative about my recent post-you're jumping on a bandwagon sonny, but the band left ages ago. mad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-22 13:35:58
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Dec 22 2006, 01:30 PM) [snapback]214138[/snapback]

muppet? have you checked your profile pic lately? laugh.gif

THAT'S IT-how DARE you call Munx a Muppet-he's my best pal, goes to every match with me, AND has a diploma from the James Watt College-mind you on second thoughts-maybe that does make-- sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-22 17:04:08
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Dec 22 2006, 01:41 PM) [snapback]214147[/snapback]

Never a truer word said laugh.gif laugh.gif
In the style of the mary white house experience.."He`s your only friend...isnt he?" tongue.gif

Yes-please take pity and go easy on me-not only is Munx my solitary friend in this whole world, but my only pleasure is this web site and everybody's ganging up on me-it's not fair. sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-22 17:08:17
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Dec 22 2006, 03:02 PM) [snapback]214174[/snapback]

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Fair play mate.

They say that bad luck comes in three's, so maybe we'll do it on our fourth attempt!?! Heres hoping. The annoying thing is, its only the 1st Division, so why is it so hard to get there?

I hope you & your family have a nice Christmas too, which reminds me, i took today off work to finish of my christmas shopping and I've not left the house yet.
Ps. Im definitley NOT your wife, and does your missus know youve got a tart like MortonJag en tow?

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mortonjag 2006-12-22 17:11:03
QUOTE(diablo ton 1 @ Dec 22 2006, 04:06 PM) [snapback]214186[/snapback]

I VOTE TO END THIS LINK..............
ARE YOU WITH ME (DOUGIE'S WORDS NOT MINE)

Only if you can give one good reason,(and NOT me!), you'd get a job in the KGB any day! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-22 17:15:24
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 22 2006, 02:48 PM) [snapback]214170[/snapback]

http://www.quotedb.com/quotes/3980

Gidday Guru,

was a that a deliberate misquote ??

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It was just the Alzheimer's kicking in, but I've kicked it back out for another day or so I hope!
mortonjag 2006-12-22 17:24:23
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 22 2006, 02:30 PM) [snapback]214163[/snapback]

7. a large roofing slate that has one edge untrimmed.
—Idioms8. chew the rag. chew (def. 11).
Would you rather chew the rag than chew a Buchanan's Toffee ???

And by the way, DDFR is now a SUPREMO !!!

From the Tele:
The Buchanan's Toffees supremo has already helped finance deals to bring Derek Lilley, Andy McLaren, Kevin Finlayson and Scott McLaughlin to the club so far this season. Rae also laid out a huge £100,000 to lure Chris Templeman to Morton last season.
laid out a huge £100,000 ???

how does a huge £100,000 differ from a standard/ordinary £100,000 ? ? ?

That paper must be a bloody rag ? ! ? !

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I recall very clearly the first time I read that word in a football connection, and it was subsequently applied regularly to Hal Stewart.

As to the relative hugeness, I suspect it refers more to the donor than the sum. Mileson's back to his tricks in todays Sun (A TRUE RAG), but for him it would be a 'modest' £100,000 no doubt!
mortonjag 2006-12-22 17:30:23
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 22 2006, 04:08 PM) [snapback]214187[/snapback]

"I don't always know what I'm talking about but I know I'm right."

"He who is not courageous enough to take risks will accomplish nothing in life."

"I've seen George Foreman shadow boxing and the shadow won."

"The man who views the world at 50 the same as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life."

"Inside of a ring or out, ain't nothing wrong with going down. It's staying down that's wrong."

Quotes from whom ?

Mortonjag ?

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F*cks like a butterfly and stinks like a pee-Muhammad Muhammad Ali-the greatest heavyweight boxer of all time-mind you I still preferred Cassius Clay-full of Romanesque earthiness and less reminiscent of the local Curry House.
mortonjag 2006-12-22 17:36:46
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Dec 22 2006, 04:36 PM) [snapback]214194[/snapback]

Every ref does that, and the kids get a yellow card to take with them too.

Rubbish-Hardie tells them to empty the sweeties out of their pockets or they'll get a red!
mortonjag 2006-12-22 17:46:07 Quote from Mr Mileson (in today's rag -the Sun), talking to Graeme Muir his chief executive--'There you are, there's my cheque book. I'm back-now get on with it.'
I have never approved of the Gretna fiasco to be, but nobody can dispute that Mileson made himself a VERY wealthy man in other realms, mainly by understanding the simple art of delegation-as exemplified here.
mortonjag 2006-12-22 19:06:01
QUOTE(diablo ton 1 @ Dec 22 2006, 05:55 PM) [snapback]214224[/snapback]

Surely that was a shout for democracy. People power, let them decide.....

Seems they have! wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-22 19:10:49
QUOTE(MortonKID @ Dec 22 2006, 07:07 PM) [snapback]214242[/snapback]

biggrin.gif Some bodyout there send is the game quake 3 arena man cool.gif
www.accessinverclyde.com laugh.gif

Dougie-now you're REALLY losing it! dry.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-22 19:25:50 from Ebenezer Mortonjag the grumpiest poster on this 'Rag',
and that includes you, Dougie Rae-I know you wish I'd go away
but listen, I love Morton too- and you saved us from bastard Hugh-
so lets all toast DDFR-not perfect, but he's done quite well so far.

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mortonjag 2006-12-22 19:36:09
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 22 2006, 07:27 PM) [snapback]214252[/snapback]

Right arsehole, now you have went too far.

have you ever had to endure a family member sufferring from Alzheimers?

If not I will gladly give you the feeling of being unable to fend for yourself, nor understand who the f*** you are.

I WILL be looking out for you tomorrow.

make yourself known in the Norseman, I will be most pleased to fill you in on the details. Wanker.

Oh dear-I seem to have offended somebody-c'mon man-grow up, that was mild compared to some of the stuff we've had on here, and was so obviously intended as a joke, I'm surprised at you.

More than one of my relatives has ultimately suffered from dementia, and I've been involved in the care and treatment of hundreds of Alzheimer's patients.

Why don't you get some help or counselling if you are currently going through a crisis-I am being sincere, not piss-taking.
mortonjag 2006-12-22 19:39:31
QUOTE(Deego @ Dec 22 2006, 07:31 PM) [snapback]214253[/snapback]

Merry Christmas to you to!

You're negative attitude doesn't bother me in the slightest, only thing I dislike is your - every - f***ing - word - tongue.gif - !

Cheers Deego, and I promise to annoy you even more next year! wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-22 20:00:17
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 22 2006, 07:47 PM) [snapback]214262[/snapback]

You do indeed lack a measurable amount of compassion then.

At no time on here have I read a statement making light of sufferers of any mental health issue, maybe I missed them, but your comments have finally crossed the line pal as far as I’m concerned.

To make matters worse you don't even begin to offer an apology for your comments.

I sincerely hope you never have the bad fortune to ever be struck down by this, you never know, maybe somebody will take the piss out of you.

On the contrary Barbarossa, I am an extremely compassionate person. I fully appreciate that this has touched a tender spot, and I apologise for upsetting you, but you can't dodge the realities of life.

Illness is one of those-we all have to cope with it in our individual ways-my ex wife has had MS for the last fifteen years, but that doesn't mean I go 'ape' every time I hear or see a risque joke about physical disability-and don't tell me they don't exist.
mortonjag 2006-12-23 09:10:26
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 23 2006, 08:54 AM) [snapback]214329[/snapback]

Fishing rod.

I couldn't give a flying f*** if you make jokes about ANYONE.

Some of the jokes that pass through my mobile phone would shock most people.

I was just curious as to your reaction. Thank you for your assistance in this experiment.

btw. I have had a shave, that ok with you now?

huh.gif -never underestimate the healing powers of a night's sleep and a shave-mind you your face'll feel freezing for a few days after shedding that scarlet mop. Merry Christmas!
mortonjag 2006-12-23 09:13:11
QUOTE(shedhead @ Dec 22 2006, 08:32 PM) [snapback]214272[/snapback]

Thats your best post so far Mortonjag . Merry christmas to you , and to all on the board.

Thanx-nice to be nice-I like the doggy BTW! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-23 10:18:56
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Dec 23 2006, 10:03 AM) [snapback]214340[/snapback]

Obviously Irn Bru from a glass bottle is better, as it's the Scottish stuff.

The plastic bottles are made with English water, so it's not as good.

I didn't think you could make plastic bottles with water ThornTON wink.gif -anyway-to my point-don't you agree that all carbonated drinks, for some reason taste better from a glass container-original 'Coke' is the classical example IMO.
mortonjag 2006-12-24 09:31:37 I haven't read all the post match stuff yet, but for the first time in quite a while I've got good vibrations about our future.

Suddenly everything changed yesterday-not least by way of the tremendous vocal support from the cowshed, and whether that was part of the reason I don't know, but those boys put on an impressive show.

What delighted me was that we took charge of this game from the kick off, and we retained control throughout, playing some good football, but matching Raith physically too. It's a huge credit to our central defence that they didn't even contemplate bringing on Marvin Andrews as a late aerial threat.

Lets face it, as Armand One's girfriend told me, he can be a real handful but he got little change from Hardy and Stu.

We still had guys out of position, and we still saw some chances blown through inexperience, but even if Paul Mathers HAD been punished for falling asleep, I could hardly have blamed him-he'd had so little to do.


A thoroughly deserved victory lads-keep it up. wink.gif

mortonjag 2006-12-24 10:15:53
QUOTE(princessTON @ Dec 24 2006, 09:37 AM) [snapback]214670[/snapback]

Its not like you to be so positive. Have you started on the Christmas Pudding already? tongue.gif

princess-I've always said I'll give credit where credit's due-the boys produced the goods yesterday, and even if Raith had got two freak goals near the end, I'd have been pleased with them. Enjoy your Christmas. smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-24 10:18:40
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Dec 24 2006, 09:40 AM) [snapback]214673[/snapback]

Well done boys biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Well, that WOULD be telling-suffice to say she sometimes enjoys a WEE, OLD, WRINKLED one-just for a complete and utter change! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-24 12:55:17
QUOTE(Cawston @ Dec 24 2006, 12:29 PM) [snapback]214714[/snapback]

Bit of a dodgy first half, had some good spells when we were knocking it around comfortably from one side of the park to the other, great move when we hit the bar but other than that no real efforts that troubled Raith.

Second half we were very good, if it had finished 4-0 Raith wouldn't have had any complaints.

Some things that caught my eye..

Stu Greacen was outstanding, bet he's sore today after his battles with One but by the time One went off big Stu had him in his back pocket.

Davie McGregor was also outstanding, man of the match for me. Comfortable in defence, always looking to control it and pass his way out. Only one wayward pass the whole game that I can remember.

Jim McCallister looks nervous, the confidence he had when I saw him last season seems to be missing. He didn't seem to know whether to push on and attack or hang back and defend, wound up spending most of the game caught between Raiths right back and right midfield.

Maybe a rest might be in order, or the manager needs to let him know if he's an attacker or a defender and take some pressure off.

Jamie Stevenson, third time I've seen him and still kind of disappointed. Great goal of course but up to that point he just wasn't working hard enough. Everyone around him was running their hearts out but he was largely posted missing.

If we'd had a route through the middle of the park esp in the first half when we had a couple of good spells we'd have buried Raith yesterday.

Was more effective when moved out right after Finlayson went off.

Kev Finlayson, much improved player who gave 100% but never really got much out the game. Decent display but never man of the match. Felt a bit sorry for him that we got more out of Stevenson in the last 15 than we did from Kev the whole game.

Deano, cult figure in the making. Came on and made some great hard tackles just when Raith were throwing themselves around. Did what he was asked to do.

Paul McGowan, deserved a goal yesterday. Had a quiet first half but a really good second once he started getting it to feet instead of the odd scrap from a Temps header.

Temps, improved 100% since last season. Seems to be getting a bit of attitude, good on him.

Mathers had one great punch out when we really needed it. Felt he could have done better with the shot in the build up to their scramble but other than that pretty solid.

The rest were good.

All in all a good day out. Shed were in good voice, Raith fans were up for it. Some good footie, what more can you ask for?

Oh aye, and the Midden got pumped! laugh.gif

Happy Christmas!

Edited for spelling and to add...

Over the 3 games I've seen this season there's a noticable change in attitude about the whole team, we seem to be mentally tougher than in the past. I've seen plenty of Morton teams that would have shipped a late goal to Raith yesterday or would have chucked it after going 2 down to Peterhead. I feel pretty good that this is going to be our year (at last!).

I've been hard on David McGregor since he came back, and he's deserved it, but yesterday, when he didn't have to mark a pacey winger he got the chance to show his talent. He can certainly play at this level-though NOT as a left back. Well done David.
mortonjag 2006-12-24 13:07:46
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Dec 24 2006, 12:19 PM) [snapback]214710[/snapback]

It wasn't that busy from the stand, looked about 2500.

Wasn't enormously busier than recently, but definitely a good bit, and the serveries are always a guide in the stand. They were doing good business yesterday.
mortonjag 2006-12-24 15:25:44
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Dec 23 2006, 07:57 PM) [snapback]214515[/snapback]

Have just been talking about this and feel sorry for the guy and the fact that his employers send him out with shorts that are far too tight for him.

Maybe Santa will bring him a bigger pair laugh.gif

Stop being a naughty wee girl-you know fine well it's not his shorts that are too WEE ! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-24 15:28:08
QUOTE(Patg @ Dec 23 2006, 10:19 AM) [snapback]214343[/snapback]

Merry Christmas to to all Morton fans and players and staff ...

The Gillan family will be out in strength today 3 of us still help at the club ..

And mortonjag youre loyalilty is there for everyone to see but you do moan bit to much ..

All the best mate maybe meet you some day and shake youre hand ...

Pat G
Ton Till I Die

I'm a reformed character Pat-well AT LEAST 'til the next game-all the best! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-24 15:37:20
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 23 2006, 11:42 AM) [snapback]214358[/snapback]

Merry Xmas to one and all and Mortonjag (alias Victor meldrew).



'Tis the night before Christmas, and all through this 'Rag',
You'll find I've not uttered one moan nor one slag,
and I'm sure you'll exclaim by the end of the night
'That grumpy old git has at last got it right'!

A merry Christmas to you and yours. smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-24 15:40:53
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Dec 20 2006, 09:15 PM) [snapback]213660[/snapback]

Aye, £14 for the shed isn't bad.

And I've got that weekend off! Yay! biggrin.gif
[Still think we'll get horsed though ph34r.gif]

Is 'horsed' the same as 'humped'?

If so I disagree, though I'll be surprised if we win.
mortonjag 2006-12-24 15:55:01 As another poster has suggested, those morons are now in the very small minority, but if it was the same apology for humanity who let us all down at Kircaldy-he's so obviously brain damaged, he's not worth the expense of locking him up.

AND my wee pal Munx agrees! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-24 16:07:21 Chris Millar performed creditably yesterday, and almost got us a couple of goals. He was not a stand out, but for a guy of his physique, he was asked to do an almost impossible job.

I am not prepared to criticise a single player for yesterday's performance-every one gave 100%, and those who most failed to impress were playing out of their natural positions.
mortonjag 2006-12-24 16:13:05
QUOTE(princessTON @ Dec 24 2006, 03:45 PM) [snapback]214822[/snapback]

shes 25 blink.gif

My wee girl's 26! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-24 16:31:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 23 2006, 02:43 PM) [snapback]214405[/snapback]

threepenny bits (two different kinds-one mainly for clootie dumplings),

The dumpling one was silver and the other was much larger and had 12 sides ??

A bafflewall ??

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Correct, and in Chemistry at school I discovered to my initial disbelief that when you dropped one of those 'brass' threepennies into a beaker of nitric acid (when 'Hitler' was out for his fag), it dissolved quite quickly to half its original size, BUT the lettering, Queen's head etc remained as clear as, and sometimes became clearer than before. Mind you I only did it two or three times to show off, as I needed the money!
mortonjag 2006-12-24 16:42:25
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Dec 23 2006, 11:08 AM) [snapback]214351[/snapback]

Why Glasgow, and not say, for example, Greenock or Paisley?

Because it's Glasgow-I recognise that bus shelter-they've replaced the glass seven times this year, and obviously put in a new light bulb five minutes earlier.
mortonjag 2006-12-24 16:52:41 Has reportedly described the Official Morton Match Day Programme as a 'Filthy rag' which has lowered itself to the depths of tabloid journalism.

His outburst was allegedly in response to comments made by the club chairman Douglas Rae.

Those were not Mr Hardie's precise words, but had been edited prior to publication.

The uncut version was apparently-'Next time I referee a Morton game, that dozy old c*nt will eat his words'. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-24 17:03:12
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Dec 24 2006, 04:50 PM) [snapback]214834[/snapback]

Yep.

Ach, I don't know - I saw them against the skunks, who admittedly are shiiite, but Killie looked pretty strong and a lot faster than our guys...

ohmy.gif -faster-you can only reach a certain speed with full time training Laura-or do they put something in their tea down there-and stronger- big Armand One came out worse for the wear yesterday against big Stu-I take your point of course, but it's a cup tie.

The only way we'll get 'horsed', is if the lads are fazed by the event-otherwise it'll be close-EITHER way! wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-24 17:04:52
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Dec 24 2006, 04:59 PM) [snapback]214838[/snapback]

Haha, That is what I meant laugh.gif

wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-24 17:17:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 24 2006, 05:13 PM) [snapback]214841[/snapback]

whit does the dog symbolise ?

Nothing-if you look carefully you'll see it's gazing heavenwards and mouthing-'How could you get it SO wrong?'. dry.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-24 17:22:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 24 2006, 05:20 PM) [snapback]214845[/snapback]

and why is the partner of the mother also on the Crimestoppers poster ?

blink.gif

Wanted for underage sex with a virgin.
mortonjag 2006-12-24 17:31:33
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 24 2006, 05:30 PM) [snapback]214848[/snapback]

laugh.gif laugh.gif

and it was probably unprotected

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

Jesus Christ!! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-24 17:47:56
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 24 2006, 05:44 PM) [snapback]214852[/snapback]

Kestrel hasn't been in production for years, so the festering cellar-full of everyone's favourite low-strength lager will be "matured" for extra fizz and sourness. Result!

At last 'IT BITES'!
mortonjag 2006-12-24 17:59:51
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Dec 24 2006, 05:51 PM) [snapback]214855[/snapback]

Reasonable report even if it slightly plays up the chances they had.

I didn't realise the man described by DDFR as 'the one and only One' is French-Streetwalker et al take note.

I'm told he's known to his friends as 'Le Coq'. smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-24 18:08:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 24 2006, 05:54 PM) [snapback]214856[/snapback]

Did Adam and Eve celebrate Christmas ? ! ? !

Were they Christians ?

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Of COURSE they were-you surprise me-everybody knows it was the Christians that started religion-in the beginning were the Christians who created God in their own likeness and image-then they set about creating the world, and Muslims and things, and on the seventh day they did the rest.
mortonjag 2006-12-24 18:11:41
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Dec 24 2006, 02:57 PM) [snapback]214795[/snapback]

Take it you didn't go to Brechin then?

The question was about technical ability, and he can't do much.

He touched the ball three or four times yesterday, hardly a basis for praise..

That's a devious way of avoiding an embarrassing question by the sound of it! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-24 18:22:24
QUOTE(1insert_player_here @ Dec 24 2006, 02:36 PM) [snapback]214775[/snapback]

Saw this on stirling albion website, let's see what you think.

1. Has the Most Potential to play at the highest level?

2. Is our most important player?

3. Is our Best Player (Technically)?

4.Is our Best Player (Hardwork/Graft/Effort etc)?

5. Is our Worst Player (Technically)?

6. Is our Worst Player (Hardwork/Graft/Effort etc)?

7. Is the most over rated?

8. Is the most under rated?

1/ Stevenson 2/Mathers 3/Millar 4/McAlister 5/ 6 & 7-no comment-8/Harding
mortonjag 2006-12-24 18:31:30
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 24 2006, 06:23 PM) [snapback]214864[/snapback]

OK Guru,

I only have one wee naggling question ... why did the Christians bother to create the Muslims ?

Or perhaps, as that famous Christian, Billy Connolly may say

... it was no tother a baw ? ? ?

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As Eve said to Adam on that fated day-'That's a hard one'!

I think it was just that everything was SO perfect, they thought something must be wrong, and could be bettered, so they created the Muslims-not JUST the Muslims of course-there were animals, and fish, and trees and stuff, but it was definitely the Muslims who proved they had been wrong from the start-and to this day refuse ever to be seen naked.
mortonjag 2006-12-24 18:41:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 24 2006, 06:27 PM) [snapback]214865[/snapback]

Never heard of drugs in the area then!

I remember lots of blokes getting high.

Several times a month ...
at Cappielow in 1963/64.

biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Do I hear a bugle or have I finally lost it? sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-24 18:46:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 24 2006, 06:39 PM) [snapback]214867[/snapback]

sadly, Guru, I don't give a fig.

Leaf it out-I know you refuse to look down on the unemployed!
mortonjag 2006-12-24 18:47:51
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 24 2006, 06:46 PM) [snapback]214870[/snapback]

I am getting on my bike - Merry Christmas to all.

And a merry Christmas to her AND your good self! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-24 18:53:43 'Is that IT? Give me Ian Fyfe any time'!
mortonjag 2006-12-24 19:16:20
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 23 2006, 11:24 PM) [snapback]214572[/snapback]

Lennon and Strachan really are a pair of total, total dicks.

Incidentally, does anyone else find it somewhat disconcerting when referees and assistants are reduced to walking backwards to escape gesticulating, ranting players and managers? IMO referees and assistants should not have to move but rather those who they are officiating should have to keep their distance. Were I a referee, there is no way I'd stop for a greeting-faced troll like Lennon: if the dumbass decided to charge at me and knocked me over he could serve out his suspension.

Oh dear-our moderate Moderator's a closet Hun.

Can't you see victimisation when it's staring you in the face-EVERYBODY's got it in for Lennon, in fact he even thinks his analyst's turning against him,-and St Gordon of the perpetual conundrum has every right to protect his little angel!

Aye right-he's scum and a disgrace to his fellow professionals at the piggery IMO.
mortonjag 2006-12-24 19:19:05
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken's Love Child @ Dec 24 2006, 07:12 PM) [snapback]214874[/snapback]

we were linked with wood a few years back when he was at Queen of the South, in what was supposed to be a swap deal for Weatherson! wasnt a bad player whenever i saw him but he's not as good as Peter!

What-Wood's a right back? smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-24 19:39:24
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Dec 24 2006, 07:27 PM) [snapback]214877[/snapback]

Apparently the fourth official asked Gordon to go on to calm things down, and the linesman never knew, and it was cleared up.

I believe that to be correct-apparently the captain's armband had inadvertently tightened around Lennon's upper arm, cutting off the blood supply to his brain, and the alert 4th official-also a competent first aider, spotting his plight asked the Manager to go to his assistance. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-26 11:10:45
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 24 2006, 08:48 PM) [snapback]214895[/snapback]

Too right, mortonjag - because when I look down, I get poked in the eye.

Don't get upset, I've got stuff I can send you tou make it thicker!
mortonjag 2006-12-26 18:46:01 I don't quite know what to make of it. I don't like Deuchar playing against us-he's far from an exciting prospect, but he CAN get goals at division 2 level-that's proven.

If he was really that good though, he'd still be an 'ever present' in the Gretna first team, so it does seem he's got an inflated opinion of his ability.

What I DON'T understand though, is his refusing even to see what DDFR had on offer-let's face it-we'll be playing in Division 1 in 8 months.

You can never be certain about the truth of news articles, but if he has blanked us, he can stick his stethoscope right up his arse as far as I'm concerned. dry.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-26 18:51:15 I bought my partner a ticket for the Killie game-thought she might not be chuffed as she's a Hun-but she's delighted and says if we win she might start coming to Scapa instead-DOUGIE TAKE NOTE! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-26 19:02:58 Tough luck for the Arabs-almost managed to shake up that complacent wee ginger haired c*nt.

Oh aye, and WE beat one of Levein's teams this season so guess we're better than Dem Tims! smile.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-26 19:13:45
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ Dec 26 2006, 07:06 PM) [snapback]215173[/snapback]

When you consider the personal abuse some players take from opposing fans I'm surprised this type of thing doesn't happen more often to be honest. Why would you (as a player) want to play well for a group of fans who, only a few weeks previously have called you everything under the sun, made some quite disgusting remarks about your mother, sister and even your daughter.

While I would love to see Grady in a Morton shirt over the next couple of weeks, I cringe to think of the VERY personal abuse hurled at him (and members of his family), from some quarters, during many previous games when he played for the opposition, and hope that he has either forgotten or did not hear it and, if he does join up, plays at his very best for us.

I agree that we should only sign players who WANT to play for us and if Deuchar thinks he's too good for us then Phuq him indeed, however, his decision just might be based on some of the personal abuse he received during previous encounters. If that IS the case, then who can really blame him.

Didn't seem to do Kenny Miller much harm!
mortonjag 2006-12-27 07:37:33
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 26 2006, 07:23 PM) [snapback]215183[/snapback]

he can stick his stethoscope right up his arse

LOL

You'll never make a doctor, mortonjag.

He would have to be double jointed to listen to his ain arse.

laugh.gif laugh.gif

Fascinating concept! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-27 07:40:30
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 27 2006, 01:06 AM) [snapback]215232[/snapback]

Who needs a stethoscope to listen to his own arse? I can hear mine fine unassisted when its in full song!

Is that when everybody in the stand seems to have a cold! wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-27 07:46:47
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 26 2006, 11:06 PM) [snapback]215226[/snapback]

Even after argyll's explanation, I agree with this. Kevin was quite poor for the most part, and I say that as a fan of his (although I maintain that his best position for us has been right-back, not central, although I haven't seen every away game.) How anyone could think he outperformed Templeman, Stevenson or Greacen really is beyond me, and other players probably had slightly better games, too.

Maybe I miss something about his performance but he seems to lose possession an awful lot. I also think he's aware that his final ball has been poor since his arrival (strange, since apparently while at Stranraer his "assists" were his main strength) and is now lacking confidence and thus reluctant to try them. He won a couple of corners when hugging the goal-line but other than that he didn't produce particularly much and was out of position once or twice. Weird choice of MoM for the three voters, but they pay their money and take their choice.

Kevin on Saturday was back to the frustrating player we saw for almost all of last season, and it's NOT his fault. Every time he's been asked to play a wide right attacking role he's been a waste of space, but this IS the same man who was largely instrumental in Stranraer's promotion, AND THIS IS the same man who has shown how direct and effective he can be on the RARE occasions when he's been ALLOWED to operate through the middle.
mortonjag 2006-12-27 08:47:23
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 26 2006, 11:03 PM) [snapback]215225[/snapback]

I agree; I was quite surprised when they read out a sub-2,500 attendance.

I was in the stand but the shed was far busier than it has been for the last two home games. Obviously I can't get a decent view of the main stand but just from looking to my left, it didn't seem that quiet, although a couple of the "regulars" near me were missing unsure.gif

In my experience, the best guide for standsters is the level of queueing at the toilets and the serving hatches-furthermore Raith definitely brought more than the normal 'away' crowd.

Mind you, if the club's falsifying figures for the benefit of all, maybe we should stop bringing this topic up on the forum.
mortonjag 2006-12-27 08:58:01 We made up wee food parcels for homeless mice-the 'wife's always had a guilty conscience since that cat arrived last year.
mortonjag 2006-12-27 09:00:23
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Dec 26 2006, 07:34 PM) [snapback]215188[/snapback]

I already posted this on previous Celtic thread!

No harm in rubbing it in! cool.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-27 09:10:40 Stevie O'Reilly, and Tweedledum Gilmour will be entertaining us down one of the lines.
mortonjag 2006-12-27 09:21:01
QUOTE(MIFTHEBINO @ Dec 24 2006, 07:58 PM) [snapback]214884[/snapback]

Shields is leaving us after the Stranny game.

We are unbeaten in something like 10 games against Stranny, so we do have a good record against them.

PS.Its 18 games unbeaten and 10 wins in a row.

Stranraer got horsed by FORFAR on Saturday-they are clearly absolute s***e at the moment and haven't a snowball's chance in hell against you.

Mind you I seem to remember somebody saying that about you last season-just before the evening game at Scapa!!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-27 09:32:56 I must lose weight
I must stop smoking
I must get more exercise -those are the priorities-then there are

I must be more careful with money
I must drive more responsibly
I must be more patient and understanding of others--etc.,etc., etc.

I have been making more or less the same resolutions for the last thirty years, but

Plus ca change! sad.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-27 11:07:45
QUOTE(lemmington @ Dec 27 2006, 09:44 AM) [snapback]215248[/snapback]

Stevie o' who,never heard of him.
Should he not be reffing in the eircom league???

He's definitely on the SFA's category 1 list, but I can't place him either-doubt if he'll ever get an OF game! wink.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-27 11:11:35
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 27 2006, 09:50 AM) [snapback]215249[/snapback]

But didn't he play on the right for Stranraer?

He was a right sided midfielder, but in a similar vein to that of Jamie Stevenson at Alloa, he was allowed scope to move about. If you recall last season, it was a shame-almost as though he was under strict instructions to stay wide and let the other midfielders do the spadework-and it just didn't work for him.

Stevenson, too, has vastly improved in the last few games because he's been allowed to play a more accustomed role.
mortonjag 2006-12-27 11:15:59
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Dec 27 2006, 11:03 AM) [snapback]215258[/snapback]

Lose weight for definite.

I've put on about two stone since May.
Funnily enough that was when I went to Hungary laugh.gif
Anyone think I should go on a sponsoreed diet with the money going to the Disabled ramp ??

Would anyone on here sponsor me ??

What's the disabled tramp's name Willow-I take it she was a sweet wee Hungarian lass eight months ago?
mortonjag 2006-12-27 11:19:10
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 27 2006, 11:16 AM) [snapback]215266[/snapback]

Ah Gilmour...so cack they made him a linesman!

MISTER Gilmour to you smile.gif -and yes-he's now an official (category 3) assistant referee.

Actually the last time he ran the line at Scapa, I thought he was quite good to us.
mortonjag 2006-12-27 19:49:21
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Dec 27 2006, 07:44 PM) [snapback]215368[/snapback]

Andy McLaren is rumored to be coming back to a certain football team in this area.

I think he'd be a brilliant signing.

I think by the time he's allowed to play again we should just have about wrapped up promotion, so we're talking about next season.

I was one of Andy's staunchest supporters, but I'd now be scared to have him back-too big a risk.
mortonjag 2006-12-27 20:40:24
QUOTE(MIFTHEBINO @ Dec 27 2006, 02:43 PM) [snapback]215299[/snapback]

I dont think we are feeling the pressure talking to some of the boys-if we win the next four games we are top-its thats simple!!!! Also,the pressure of a restless expectant crowd puts prssure on your players as well. Add on the fact you are full time and I think its your players who will be feeling the pressure!

You are correct-all the pressure and expectation are on us-one of the reasons we're not still 9 points clear of you. The trouble is that were the situation reversed, you have much more experience in your squad, and could ride it better. I still believe you'll get the play off spot though.
mortonjag 2006-12-27 20:47:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 27 2006, 01:10 PM) [snapback]215285[/snapback]

cue posting by mortonjag.

smile.gif smile.gif

Mr Mileson's been teasing us all-who knows what to think-players getting the 'heave ho' with talk of financial self sufficiency, then a recent press article boasting that 'he's back' from illness, and has given the club an open cheque book-it goes from bad to worse, but the common factor seems to be that if 'Pony Tail's fit enough to enjoy his football he spends, and vice versa. dry.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-27 20:51:41
QUOTE(Graeme @ Dec 27 2006, 07:14 PM) [snapback]215362[/snapback]

Lost my petrol cap today and now facing a nightmare to get a replacement. Just back from halfords who are telling me they will need to order me one in and MIGHT be jan 4th I get it if not longer.

Is there anywhere else locally I would be able to get my hands on one?

The biggest danger is an opportunist putting something into the open filler mouth, as modern tanks are anti-syphonic. You should easily be able to get a cheap plastic universal cap in Halfords or one of the small motor accessory shops, until you get another locking one.
mortonjag 2006-12-28 09:19:20
QUOTE(foxy @ Dec 28 2006, 08:57 AM) [snapback]215434[/snapback]

uncalled for, have to agree....

who really cares what his biggest game has been?
As dazza said " as long as we win, who cares"

And if we lose because he's a useless git and gets everything wrong in favour of Ayr-who cares? mellow.gif

ThornTon likes his statistics, and has answered a question for those of us who DO think referees affect the game, and if you disagree ask Colin Strachan, or John Collins for example.
mortonjag 2006-12-28 09:31:19 Le Guen's motto is, 'Anything you can do, I can do better'-YOU draw with the Arabs, so WE lose to Caley!!! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2006-12-28 09:36:17 Ayr 1 Morton 3

Stranraer 1 Stirling 1

My dreams rarely come true, but who knows?!
mortonjag 2006-12-28 11:55:25
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Dec 28 2006, 10:29 AM) [snapback]215461[/snapback]

Aye you know him....Gordons brother!! biggrin.gif

Oh dear, but Barbarossa forbids me to mention my disability-I guess I was thinking of Colin Hardie and Gordon Strachan-both self opinionated wee barrels!
mortonjag 2006-12-28 12:00:13
QUOTE(RabidRoger @ Dec 28 2006, 11:08 AM) [snapback]215466[/snapback]

He doesn't look like a footballer. More like a simian version of a rugby hooker. biggrin.gif

Don't you dare belittle Munx-he looks far more like your avator!
mortonjag 2006-12-29 11:55:17
QUOTE(hugo_swire @ Dec 28 2006, 10:37 PM) [snapback]215569[/snapback]

i wasnt accusing you of anything nacho.

I was quoting mortonjag and questioning his motives for calling neil lennon scum.

And I equally question yours for defending him.

Lennon comes over publicly as an arrogant, pig-headed, and not too bright character, who thinks nothing of physically attacking one of his fellow players, and disgracing his club by contemptuously throwing down the Captain's arm band-that is bad enough.

His behaviour elsewhere in terms of his extra marital liaisons, and his general treatment of those with whom he comes in contact confirm to me that he is-as I stated-SCUM.

My brother lives no distance from him, and is regularly witness to the fact.

Tim, Hun, or Ton player-anyone demonstrating those characteristics is scum in my book.

mortonjag 2006-12-29 15:38:18
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Dec 29 2006, 02:30 PM) [snapback]215661[/snapback]

Agree 100% Boozie. He's The British government's best weapon in Scotland by a mile. (and I chose the word carefully).

A Morningside Socialist on his best day and a Tartan Tory on his worst.

It's been predicted he might be Prime Minister of an Independent Scotland one day. And one day would be enough of that c*** let me tell you.

TonInDublin

SNP were having a conference in the Glasgow Thistle Hotel a few years back.

A reporter was discussing the dinner menu with the Maitre d'hotel, and asked if they would be having salmon for a starter-quick as a flash came the reply-'No Salmond's the pudding'!
mortonjag 2007-01-03 10:59:42
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jan 3 2007, 08:57 AM) [snapback]216829[/snapback]

What a brilliant run of results over the past 3 weeks. Away wins at Brechin, Ayr and Peterhead stradling a home win over Raith. That's now 48 points from 60 so far, only a point behind where Gretna were after 20 games last season!

The management and team are to be congratulated for their efforts over the festive season. Certainly showing plenty of bottle. Of course, it must have been a disappointing few weeks for mortonjag and the like. Team doing well and nothing to moan about. BTW, where is mortonjag and his moaning mates? Haven't heard much from the prophets of doom recently. I wonder how many of them will be big enough to come on here and give Jim and the lads the credit they deserve? Not many I fear. Still, I'm a happy camper! smile.gif smile.gif

I don't need to moan if we're doing as expected-I will continue to moan if and when I see further ineptitude on the part of the management.

The boys are playing with their hearts on their sleeves right now, and it's all credit to them that they've got their tails back up, but for those of you who can only EVER see the good side of things, we've won the last three games by a single goal, and none has been scored by a forward.

If you check my posts-Mr Negative was saying many weeks ago that Deano deserved a chance-did he get it-did he f*ck until Scott was injured-so my MOANY question for the day is-Will he keep his place-and my answer-NO. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-03 11:29:13 Perhaps it is-but Mcgowan, Lilley, Templeman, and Weatherson have goalscoring ability.

McGowan hasn't scored a goal in two months, but McInally still persists with him from 3 pm every week, and Del's been effectively frozen out for the time being. Templeman's being used in the role Del can easily play, so you can hardly expect the big man to be knocking them in as well, and of course Spoonsy will never get back up front as long as McInally's here.

So what do they do-sort it-no that would be too f*cking simple-they waste more money.

I couldn't get to Peterhead yesterday, but took in the Clyde v Partick game.

I can tell you that we consistently play FAR BETTER AND MORE ATTRACTIVE FOOTBALL than those two who are currently 3rd and 4th in Division 1.

You know that anyway, but the reason we failed, for example, against Clyde in the cup, was that as J M. admitted himself we're still not streetwise.

Let's not get complacent after this good spell-we STILL need more experience in midfield if we're going to cut it up there.
mortonjag 2007-01-03 12:22:22
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jan 3 2007, 03:49 AM) [snapback]216827[/snapback]

If McInally had been sacked after the Forfar game and a new guy had come in and won the last four fixtures, people would be calling him a genius. That obviously didn't happen but, under the pressure Stirling have put us, to win away at Brechin, Ayr and Peterhead is a great run. Of course, we have to beat Alloa to really set up the game on the 20th but 12 points from the last four games is three points more than I would have been delighted with beforehand.

Here we go again-if what you suggest had happened, and we'd won four fixtures against significantly inferior opponents-WHO would have called the incomer a genius?

IF someone else had come in, made changes (not signings) and produced a squad who were performing in a similar way to, say, Gretna last season, I'd be calling him able! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-03 12:34:00
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 3 2007, 09:49 AM) [snapback]216837[/snapback]

The record number of points for any side promoted from the second division since the present league format started is 88 by Gretna last year. We have 48 points and 48 still to play for so we have seven points to play with and still take the record. If things go our way and the league is over relatively early, this could be something to motivate the players with.

For information and as I was bored (could'nt get on P & B last night for my customary wee gloat!) I was looking at the tables at the 20 game mark over the last few years. Its quite interesting

---------------------P---W---D---L---F---A---PTS
Gretna 2005/6--20--15---4---1--52--17---49

Morton 2006/7--20--15---3---2--42--15---48
Morton 2005/6--20--14---1---5--34--17---43
Morton 2004/5--20--10---3---7--37--22---33
Morton 2003/4--20--11---6---3--47--27---39
I reckon the above shows the improvement under McInally pretty well. We think Stirling have had at great run and yet even last season we still had more points at the same stage.

Anything's possible, but IMO there's too much flux in this division to predict anything-every team is capable of surprising us and they ALL want to. Even FORFAR beat Gretna twice last season.

I honestly think we're all too quick to get excited when we string a few results together without exactly setting the heather on fire.

I'll settle for promotion-but by all means, the earlier the better.
mortonjag 2007-01-03 12:42:18
QUOTE(standman @ Dec 29 2006, 10:23 PM) [snapback]215774[/snapback]

I always think that Kilmacolm is more a Renfrewshire village than an Inverclyde one.

So how did we nab it to be part of our gang ?

I'm confused-what is this Inverclyde thing you mention-it didn't exist when I was a boy living in RENFREWSHIRE-Greenock, then the 'Port', then Kilmacolm.

When I lived there you could choose to go to school in either Paisley or Greenock.

Maybe one of the best guides to your answer though, is the fact that as it had no pubs most of the locals travelled to the 'Brig', rather than the 'Port'.
mortonjag 2007-01-03 12:56:28
QUOTE(standman @ Dec 29 2006, 10:18 PM) [snapback]215773[/snapback]

Did players who were 20, 21 look older than players of the same age now ?

Of course standman-but then modern day youth have it so, so easy!! cool.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-03 13:01:27 'McInally stressed that Linn was not being bought to replace anybody, but to strengthen the squad'-what's he going to do-take them weight training? rolleyes.gif

What he really meant was he'll be straight into the team and McGowan will be on the bench-at least that's what I hope.
mortonjag 2007-01-03 13:58:52
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jan 3 2007, 01:06 PM) [snapback]216892[/snapback]

I was simply pointing out the extremes people go to on here. If I'd really have wanted to wind you up I would have mentioned a few managers that would have been delighted with 4 consecutive wins over the festive period......like Gordon Strachan, Paul Le Guen, Jose Morinho and Alex Ferguson. biggrin.gif

Fair enough, but hopefully you're not equating the gap between our resources and the rest of our division to those other situations.
mortonjag 2007-01-03 14:06:08 According to the press today, he automatically misses 'the next two matches'-it doesn't say the cup is exempt-not that it'll make one bit of difference, because it's all down to how WE play on Saturday.

We can win this game-there are plenty of precedents-even this season the 'Spiders' cuffed Aberdeen.

Sadly it's extremely unlikely, but I'll be having pleasant dreams for the next three nights!
mortonjag 2007-01-03 14:40:21
QUOTE(Madton @ Jan 3 2007, 02:10 PM) [snapback]216905[/snapback]

Oh you and your ways, just TRY and enjoy it then!

I enjoyed my last two games very much, and made no complaints, as we totally dominated at Ayr, and at Scapa. That doesn't mean I'm going to stop believing we can be much better.
mortonjag 2007-01-03 14:45:26
QUOTE(MIFTHEBINO @ Jan 3 2007, 02:28 PM) [snapback]216911[/snapback]

Goal was a play off place and that target is still on course. There is still 16 games to go and a six point gap can be closed down in that time. I am sure there is still more twist and turns before the end of the season. Our main thing is to sign a striker before the Raith game on the 13th or we will be handing you guys the title!!
Anyway, I am not panicing now as there is still plenty of points to be won and lost by both teams!

I wouldn't worry about it MIF-look at our goals tally, and according to our fans we've no striker-well we have actually got more than one but they don't get to play there! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-03 15:29:51
QUOTE(1insert_player_here @ Jan 3 2007, 02:51 PM) [snapback]216920[/snapback]

Weatherson is a defender. rolleyes.gif

and you're actually Jim (myopic) McInally I suppose!
mortonjag 2007-01-03 15:37:53
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 3 2007, 03:23 PM) [snapback]216932[/snapback]

The statistics say we are performing similarly to Gretna last year - see my thread on the record is within our grasp. After 20 games we are one point and 8 goals GD behind where Gretna were at the same stage.

I think a number of people are missing that.

How many goals had they scored compared to us? They never pretended to have the best defence in the league but at this stage had a better goal difference because they played aggressive attacking football, instead of 'grinding out results' which JM has stated will do him.

Don't get me wrong, it'll do me too if that's the best we're going to get-but I just KNOW we could be doing far better.
mortonjag 2007-01-03 15:41:50
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 3 2007, 03:22 PM) [snapback]216931[/snapback]

I wasn't at Peterhead but the Ayr game was as one-sided a game as I'd seen all season (at least until I went to Qos-Gretna yesterday) and only our strikers' lack of a desire to shoot made it seem close. I hop our latest signing will remedy that, and maybe Templeman and McGowan will start banging them in again soon. Says a lot that we're well clear with no outstanding goalscorers in our team, goals spread evenly amongst the whole team really.

BTW the fact that Gretna are walking away with the first division (I think they're further ahead than they were ahead of us last season at this stage) suggests to me that we'd have nothing to fear in the first division. You wouldn't believe how easy it was for them against Queens; we weren't a lot behind Gretna in ability last season when we went head to head with them - it was split 50:50 if you count the cup game.

Exactly-I've been saying all season we'd get a chance to play some football in Div 1, and the standard's not great. I watched Clyde v Partick yesterday, and apart from two good opportunist goals, it was pretty dire stuff.
mortonjag 2007-01-03 15:46:40
QUOTE(mortonxno1 @ Jan 3 2007, 12:09 AM) [snapback]216809[/snapback]

At least their in the champs leahue and ufea cup . you may be a morton suporter but they are a SCOTTISH team and you should suport them . If you dont want to then fine thats your choice

Are you perchance descibing Monsieur Le Guen's cosmopolitan rag bag as a SCOTTISH TEAM-don't make me laugh, and he even calls them 'WRONG Gers'!
mortonjag 2007-01-04 11:05:10
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Jan 3 2007, 04:11 PM) [snapback]216953[/snapback]

The first part of your comment doesn't really make sense, we could have had 2 more points by scoring a single goal and turning a draw into a win. So basically we would have 1 point more than Gretna at this stage but a poorer goal difference. Points are far more important than goal difference and I for one would rather grind out 1-0 victories every week than win a game 6-0 one week and then draw the next one 3-3 because we are playing "aggressive attacking football".

Well, TBH, although I desperately want out of this Div 2 hole, I'd hate to have to watch my team 'grind out' results every week, just for the sake of points. I've watched Clyde two or three times recently for example-they're doing OK on points, but I'd rather see a Junior cup tie with a bit of excitement, than their uninspiring clugging machine.
mortonjag 2007-01-04 11:16:26 Mathers



Finlayson Harding Greacen Keenan



Millar Stevenson Weatherson


Templeman Lilley
mortonjag 2007-01-04 11:31:52
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jan 3 2007, 08:59 PM) [snapback]217094[/snapback]

I'm sorry you thought my post was "gloating" when all I was trying to point out that people like mortonjag are quick to criticise but slow to praise. Sometimes I do think some of the posters on here are only happy when things go wrong and wonder if they really have the best interests of the team at heart. There is such a thing as constructive criticism.

As for mortonjag, by his own admission, he was at Broadwood yesterday supporting his first love (Partick Thistle) and probably didn't find out the Morton score until today.

It was a statement-not an admission, I took the chance to sus out some first division football, just like Alibi did-I have no affiliation with Partick Thistle.

That is the first away game I have missed for many a long month-I had committments which made the long return journey impossible.

Now-itchy baws-read my posts since the third week in December-who's been the victim of my criticism-the boys have been excellent since then, and totally dominated the last two games I saw-sure I feel McInally relies far too heavily on young McGowan, and we could be scoring more, but I DO give credit when it's due.
mortonjag 2007-01-04 11:37:50
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 4 2007, 11:25 AM) [snapback]217241[/snapback]

Do you think we can beat Killie with ten men. blink.gif

Bugger, beaten to it. biggrin.gif

laugh.gif Oops-I had intended McLaughlin at no 9 if fit, and if not, probably keep McAlister there for his work rate as it's a cup tie.
mortonjag 2007-01-04 11:43:00
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 4 2007, 11:38 AM) [snapback]217249[/snapback]

No, no, you see, he's talking about a football match, not global politics.

I can see where you might have got a bit mixed up, though.

As for the main topic, I've never been a boo boy but I've questioned the manager's actions once or twice. However, I think he's doing a fine job and will continue to back him smile.gif

Stick to the old DVD's NewTon-I'd imagine you'd make a better assessment of the current squad from a two year old disc than itchy baws can when he thinks he's just seen them.

Mind you that is a VERY distracting affliction he has! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-04 11:47:31 The Golden Casket factory, engulfing Dougies total cash stash in flames-so


(sorry AT)
mortonjag 2007-01-04 13:02:27 but it couldn't stand being closely associated with a blithering idiot-so
mortonjag 2007-01-04 13:19:42
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Jan 4 2007, 01:07 PM) [snapback]217287[/snapback]

Fair enough, i can't comment on how bad watching Clyde is because the only time i would see them is when they play us. But even games like the Raith one on the 23rd (when the 1st half was dry boke material), I still get exicted. Not about the football but because we were terrible and really needed the win. I wouldn't change results and games like that for any amount of overpaid fancy dans playing 'silky' football in hope of getting their next better move (which we have had in the past). As i said, i would take 1-0s all year with performances like that, as long as we get out of this graveyard of a league.

Obviously where we differ is that you get 'excited' when we're terrible, and let's face it, given our resources, that WAS the case during our points dropping spell. I, on the contrary get frustrated, angry, and disappointed-I know it's a character defect-I am a perfectionist by nature-but clumsy handling of anything, be it a tool, a motor car, or a football team upsets me.
mortonjag 2007-01-04 13:22:22
QUOTE(1insert_player_here @ Jan 4 2007, 01:20 PM) [snapback]217295[/snapback]

New Years Honour List

"Rangers chairman and owner David Murray is to be knighted by the Queen. It was announced on the New Year's honours list.

Mr Murray made his fortune in the steel and metals industry, and venture captial businesses have made the Rangers chairman the fifth richest man in Scotland. He is thought to be worth around £650 million."

And her majesty said 'Arise Sir David' and he arose and fell on his arse! huh.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-04 13:51:40
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 4 2007, 01:36 PM) [snapback]217300[/snapback]

Grady seems very likely to sign for Hamilton. We signed Linn instead.
Elgin have backers willing to splash the cash, as well as a decent home support. ES lacks both of these. Elgin also finished in the playoff position last year.

Yes-just another example of a footballing location that could be a good deal more self sufficient than Gre£na.
mortonjag 2007-01-04 13:53:12
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Jan 4 2007, 01:33 PM) [snapback]217298[/snapback]

Poor taste mad.gif

Absolutely, he should have known better!
mortonjag 2007-01-04 18:25:09 and they think he's actually telling them Dougie's doubled the win bonus, and-
mortonjag 2007-01-04 18:28:10
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 4 2007, 12:26 PM) [snapback]217269[/snapback]

The Indian girl is stunning. Probably full of s***e mind you.

s***e or curry, and who gives a f*ck? smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-04 18:42:19 I don't think David Murray became the 5th richest man in Scotland by letting his heart rule his head-Le Guen has failed in the Scottish game, and Murray's grabbed the chance to ditch him.

I wouldn't even be surprised if it was a 'stitch up' involving the noble Sir, and the somewhat less Baz.

Anyhow Alex McLeish must be having a good belly laugh! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-04 18:46:16
QUOTE(londonboy @ Jan 4 2007, 06:06 PM) [snapback]217402[/snapback]

Hi all,

moved up to glasgow a couple months ago, a friend took me to a Greenock Morton game and have now been a few times, think i'll be a regular, good team and think they will win league.

few good young players too..

stadium is not the best but have just took a liken to the team

I like the boy mcgowan, chris millar and stevenson.

who do you think is the teams top 3 players and most valuable?

Three most talented-Stevenson, Millar, and IMO the very underrated Harding


Three most important-Mathers, Greacen, and Millar
mortonjag 2007-01-04 18:53:56 but Dougie is too busy sharpening pencils with his pressy to even notice, so Deano pulls out his weapon and-
mortonjag 2007-01-04 19:04:37
QUOTE(Sammario @ Jan 4 2007, 06:48 PM) [snapback]217443[/snapback]

All what started? Rangers were as much a mess under McLeish. to say he should feel vidicated is utter nonsense. Le Guen might have been able to sign real transfer targets rather than 2nd raters if they were in the CL but due to big eck that never happened.

Mais oui Monsieur Sammario-ou habitez vous? rolleyes.gif

Stop trying to make excuses for his incompetence-John Hughes would have achieved far more with the present squad (to name but one), and at least Eck had success as well as failure.

The fact is that LeGuen could not adapt to the Scottish game, and to the day of his departure was still incapable of pronouncing the club's name-mind you I thought wrong gers always sounded so funny-almost as funny as the sookcess he kept promising.
mortonjag 2007-01-04 19:10:15
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jan 4 2007, 07:02 PM) [snapback]217449[/snapback]

this thread's pish, pubehead.

The End.

but McGowan immediately takes a rubber from his pocket and-
mortonjag 2007-01-04 19:43:56
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 4 2007, 07:25 PM) [snapback]217468[/snapback]

Is shouted at the Killie goalie as he combs his hair in the dressing room whilst blow.....

ing Jim Jefferies for 50p and a smile but the smile doesn't come so-
mortonjag 2007-01-04 19:50:32
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Jan 4 2007, 07:48 PM) [snapback]217480[/snapback]

Why is this on a Morton board. dry.gif

Oh, right - they might want McInally. mellow.gif

Naw, they've got a waiting list for ball boys.
mortonjag 2007-01-04 19:54:26
QUOTE(Graeme @ Jan 2 2007, 04:41 PM) [snapback]216746[/snapback]

Hello all, if you have and announcements you wish to be made over the tannoy or song requests then please leave messages here or via email.

Thanks

Graeme

Hi-Graeme-if you play Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody you'll be able to nip out for a pie and bovril while it's on-one of my all time favourites.
mortonjag 2007-01-04 20:23:21 ....difficult is he to please, as he demands yet more effort from the exhausted lad, little realising that...
mortonjag 2007-01-05 07:45:27 is also a s***e-but to get back to the point...
mortonjag 2007-01-05 07:57:32
QUOTE(stuart @ Jan 5 2007, 12:49 AM) [snapback]217597[/snapback]

But a polo neck though?

That's the sort of thing a golfer wears. McInally must get this sorted!

And he needs a good short back and sides as well.

Don't fret lads-Mr McInally will get him a short back and sides, sort out his sartorial deficiencies, and put him at right back with Spoonsy on the bench-he's REALLY good at those things! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-05 07:59:11
QUOTE(Deego @ Jan 5 2007, 01:31 AM) [snapback]217607[/snapback]

MortonJag in good music shocker! ohmy.gif

I'm wae MortonJag, play it. smile.gif

biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-05 08:06:28
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 5 2007, 12:52 AM) [snapback]217598[/snapback]

It will be interesting to see as the manager gave McGowan a glowing report so I cannot see Bambi remaining in the starting line up .
Remember folks ,you have to get into JM's thinking he has probably bought Linn to play left back.

FFS I just made a joke about that on the other post-but WHO would ever know?Seriously, it's got to be picked from week to week depending on form AND on whom we're playing-horses for courses-I don't think Jim's streetwise on those matters yet. I was reading the More Morton Greats book, and Benny Rooney was explaining how they sussed out others in advance and picked the team accordingly. When they played Aberdeen for example 'we just put wee Danny Docherty on Strachan, and always seemed to do well against them'.
mortonjag 2007-01-05 08:54:48 The OFFICIAL match attendance is 6,318.

That's official-well actually I made the figure up, just like they do anyway! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-05 09:06:52 If he doesn't, I reckon we've just wasted £15,000, but we've been lacking this type of aggressive fast running poacher since Williams left and I rckon he'll do it.
mortonjag 2007-01-05 09:09:22
QUOTE(twinny boy @ Jan 5 2007, 09:00 AM) [snapback]217645[/snapback]

now it looks like walter smith and ally mcmoist are taking over at ran*ers,who is going to take over from them for the scotland job? imo iwould like to see george burley any others you can think of

FFS geezabrek-OK then Paul Le Guen-he speaks better English than Vogts.
mortonjag 2007-01-05 09:12:11
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Jan 5 2007, 09:08 AM) [snapback]217647[/snapback]

...of the concept behind this thread, it all began with McInally buying Dougie a pencil sharpener which...

....fell victim to Deano's Beano, and now El Supremo says he can no longer write cheques unless......
mortonjag 2007-01-05 09:51:48
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 5 2007, 09:24 AM) [snapback]217654[/snapback]

20 goals in half a season is a big ask for any striker, never mind Bobby Linn.

I know BH-I personally believe that in the longer term our future would have been looked after better by signing an experienced midfielder, as I'm sure we'll be promoted anyway.

Having said that, I remember what Williams could do with Maisano the main provider, and I believe that in this division, Linn will come into his own alongside players like Millar, Templeman and Stevenson, who all need someone to feed off them.
mortonjag 2007-01-05 09:57:35
QUOTE(mickaspic @ Jan 5 2007, 09:51 AM) [snapback]217661[/snapback]

I think one of the reasons for McGowans lack of goals of late is his inability to play with another striker. This I think is down to his age and probably one of the reasons he has been sent out on loan.

If you watch him he is never close enough to Lilley or Templeman when they win headers and therefore never latches onto the flicks. Most of our attacks go through either Templeman or McGowan but rarely both. I think this is something McInally should be looking at. An interesting idea might be to pair Lilley with McGowan, and Templeman with Linn. Then let them train in these pairs and say "the best pair plays on Saturday". This would force them to learn to play as a unit instead of individuals. It would also create some much needed competition up front.

Unfortunately, I think McInally has his favourites (as did Cowboy) and McGowan is one of them. So I dont see him ever being dropped.

Mick

I wouldn't start to argue about permutations, but I certainly agree in principle.

McGowan probably does better off Lilley because the former's more direct and predictable-Sanny-on the other hand is great at holding while waiting for a player to be in position, and he and Linn may very well gel.
mortonjag 2007-01-05 10:00:11
QUOTE(Jim Holmes..Best Ever @ Jan 5 2007, 09:48 AM) [snapback]217660[/snapback]

If you got him for nothing & you're short of forwards he could be a decent signing for you. He'll be keen to impress & is pretty damn quick. Hope it works out for him.

Agreed-never got a decent chance here and still scored a few crackers as a sub.
mortonjag 2007-01-05 10:01:52
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Jan 5 2007, 09:57 AM) [snapback]217666[/snapback]

is made from

pure tit...
mortonjag 2007-01-05 10:06:13
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 5 2007, 10:01 AM) [snapback]217669[/snapback]

No matter how else he plays, it'll be wasted if he doesn't score an insane amount?

I don't know why having a team full of goalscorers bothers you so much. We're still scoring plenty. Celtic also top the SPL and their top scorer's only netted 7 in the league, the same as our top scorer - Chris Millar.

Go back to sleep-that's exactly the point I was making-we DON'T need another goalscorer-the money could have been better spent, but now he's here, let's get some return for our money-I believe we will.
mortonjag 2007-01-05 10:31:07
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Jan 5 2007, 10:13 AM) [snapback]217671[/snapback]

me or the pen ??? unsure.gif

....pure titanium smile.gif but nobody at Scapa was able to find such a rare instrument until Arthur stumbled over........
mortonjag 2007-01-05 15:19:43
QUOTE(Mr H Palms @ Jan 5 2007, 11:03 AM) [snapback]217682[/snapback]

re mortonjag. al bet you 100 quid that he dosent score 20 goals for us this season, 20 plus goals in 16 games, easy money me thinks.... you sir are a bellend

Well named you greedy bastard-I didn't quote the odds-100-1 against and if you're up for it pm me! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-05 15:24:01
QUOTE(otter @ Jan 5 2007, 01:27 PM) [snapback]217748[/snapback]

So, using your logic, if we win the next 16 league games 1-0 and Linn scores all 16 goals, he is a waste of money? Just making sure I understand you.

Phil.

The future's bright.....

If we win the next 16 games 1-0 otter, and Linn scores all 16, that will be a never before or after event in football-I did not say Linn is a waste of money at 15 grand, but a striker never was the priority IMO.
mortonjag 2007-01-05 15:27:18
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 5 2007, 01:39 PM) [snapback]217763[/snapback]

Your new years resolution did not last long did it? We have the positive news that we have signed a striker many on this board thought would be ideal in recent times. This enhances a team which is 6 points clear and still well in the running to be promoted with a record number of points.

Somehow you manage to turn this into a negative about wasting money, almost hoping, it sounds like, that he does'nt succeed.

You make the Rev I M Jolly sound cheerful!!

smile.gif We've scored plenty of goals, we're 6 points ahead, and the most probable thing from history is that we lose our way again because of youth and inexperience.

I am NOT belittling Linn-he is a good squad addition, but should not have been the priority.
mortonjag 2007-01-05 15:28:57
QUOTE(suda @ Jan 5 2007, 02:53 PM) [snapback]217814[/snapback]

He's a McInally signing so will be targeted by some, MortonJag included, these guys will never be happy until McInally has been chased out of the door and they have somebody else in charge to chase.

We've bought a decent young striker for £15k, I think we're getting value for money and good luck to the guy hopefully he will do well for Morton.

He's a Mathers signing and a good one, but a striker was NOT the priority-wait and see.
mortonjag 2007-01-05 15:31:15 Before some arse points it out I've said in four successive posts that a striker was not the priority-anybody understand what I'm saying yet? mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-05 15:33:39 If we keep our heads they'll have to struggle for a win, and who knows-it's the cup- prediction -1-0 (Harding)
mortonjag 2007-01-05 15:48:03
QUOTE(Patg @ Jan 5 2007, 03:39 PM) [snapback]217852[/snapback]

So what you are saying is we are scoring lots of goals so a striker is not the priority .. Now all these goals seem to be coming from midfield .. and you reckon we need a new midfielder??

I agree a bit of experience is what we require and Im sure next season when we are in the first it will come but so far we are 6 points clear and are winning games in the past we would have thrown away .. Just enjoy it and stop picking faults with the manager ..

Scott

How many defensive, holding, experienced, AND productive midfielders have we got-sweet FA

OK we've done well in the last few weeks-full credit to the boys, but it's back to the old scenario-nobody's allowed to have a pop at St James of the perpetual hit and hope team.
mortonjag 2007-01-06 10:49:24
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 6 2007, 09:01 AM) [snapback]218146[/snapback]

Do you have a single shred of evidence?

Are you forgetting that Jim worked alongside Linn at Dundee and has watched Linn sprint past our defence for the better part of 3 years?

I believe Mathers was involved in brokering the deal.
mortonjag 2007-01-06 10:54:00
QUOTE(bigkilmarnockbunnet @ Jan 6 2007, 03:21 AM) [snapback]218130[/snapback]

I realized the way your eyes deceived me
with tender looks that I mistook for love
So take away the flowers that you gave me
And send the kind that you remind me of
Paper Roses
Paper Roses
Oh how real those roses seem to be
But they're only imitation,
Like you imitation love for me
I thought that you would be a perfect lover
You seemed so full of sweetness at the start
But like a big red rose that's made of paper
There isn't any sweetness in your heart
Paper Roses
Paper Roses
Oh how real those roses seem to be
But they're only imitation like you imitation love for me

Poor wee Killie
Poor wee Killie
What a shame we've got it in for ye
Half past four at Cartsdyke station
When the Ton are scudding you by three smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-06 12:10:45
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Jan 6 2007, 11:53 AM) [snapback]218188[/snapback]

I am excited, sure we can produce an upset!

WHAT-lose? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-06 12:13:55
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 6 2007, 12:05 PM) [snapback]218199[/snapback]

Hired a lawnmower, which proves you can't.....

account for their sanity-meanwhile, back at Phoenix Fort Matilda, Dougie is....
mortonjag 2007-01-06 12:24:43
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 6 2007, 11:06 AM) [snapback]218168[/snapback]

Big Temps is probably playing better just now than he ever has since joining Morton.
He has improved his general play, and his fitness seems to have improved greatly. That is down to hard work in training. So give him credit there.

Like ALL our strikers he has found it difficult to score goals regularly. There is no excuse for that. All our strikers should be hitting the net in this division.
That's why we have bought Linn.

Out of all our strikers, Temps seems to be the player in form. His link up play and distribution have been terrific. He has even added a bit of fight to his game by his willingness to get the ball back when possession is lost.

IF (like the rest of our strikers) he can start scoring on a regular basis, we could have a really superb player on our books.

I AGREE totally and most are missing the point I was making-we already have Templeman, Weatherson, Lilley, McGowan, Stevenson, and Millar. ALL are more than capable of scoring-AND we've been scoring enough,

Where we've consistently faltered is in failing to kill teams off, or letting them back in, and I reiterate, THAT'S down to inexperience on the part of the players and management. IF we intend to keep Jim, our money would have been much better spent on a seasoned campaigner, to 'general' the team.

FINALLY, I'm happy we got Bobby Linn-he's an exciting player and I DO believe he's capable of 20 goals before the end of the season.

Anyway I doubt if I've said a single positive word here so before the torrent of abuse-f*ck off the lot of ye's. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-06 12:31:12
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 6 2007, 11:39 AM) [snapback]218184[/snapback]

If Bobby Linn puts in the performances for us as he has done for Peterhead then we may actually have a striker to score the amount of goals we should expect.
Goals is what the stats will remember players by , over the course of their career at a club . Weathersons goals will standout as he will probably go down as a right back . Millar from midfield has upped his scoring this season but he gets plenty of derision from certain sections , McGowan has went off the boil and for a young lad it is sometimes better to move aside to get his confidence back .
I still don't hold with the its taken him time to settle in , hes not used to crowds or people shouting . What about Stevenson , he has played out of position yet still has contributed more this year than Templeman.
To wait 2 1/2 years for a performance is hardly productive . To say he has struggled playing infront of crowds was laughable , surely thats what all professional footballers crave . Have any of you's considered if he was that good Brechin would have taken him back to save their skins last season.
We had no option at the start of the season but to keep him and that is probably the main reason that we were unable to get anyone other than McGowan at the start of the season .
So how many will want DDFR to bestow another lucrative contract under his nose , I would imagine he won't be short of pace if that was the scenario , fastest signature in town .

We agree on many issues but not on Sanny-he was allowed to play his own game at Brechin, WHERE HIS ASSETS WERE RECOGNISED, but like so many here-Finlayson, McAlister, Walker, Stevenson, Millar, Weatherson are a FEW who spring to mind we never seem to get the best from them, largely because their styles are cramped by instructions as to where and how to play.

Please lay of Temps-he's not scoring goals right now, but he's been doing a power of work up front and deserves the credit for that.

Oh and before anyone jumps down my throat again-YES I DO blame the management. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-06 13:01:38
QUOTE(1insert_player_here @ Jan 6 2007, 12:36 PM) [snapback]218212[/snapback]

Wrong. McAlister can't cross (yes, even when he uses his right foot rolleyes.gif), can't shoot, and never makes forward runs. I doubt any of that would change were he on the right side of midfield.

Weatherson has 9 goals this season and is our most important player, what more do you want?

Facts-not your opinion-he's a crucial player, I agree, and WASTED at right back where he is competent-NO MORE.
Mind you, coming from somebody who can't see the footballer bursting to get out in McAlister who's totally wasted on the left-I shouldn't be surprised at anything you say.
mortonjag 2007-01-07 10:01:37 e
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jan 7 2007, 01:41 AM) [snapback]218766[/snapback]

chrissiboi is clearly taking the piss yet again. That's not an apology. Not even close to it and I doubt we'll see his wife mortonjag retracting her comments about the 'darling' of the fans either. Some people only see the bad in everything and are tedious with it.

At least he's not maried to Lucifer you cretin-and before you start slagging me off again, I have been a staunch supporter of Sanny from day one, and even yesterday took my 'husband' to task for berating him.

Furthermore, I HAVE NEVER BEEN A CRITIC OF, OR TRIED TO UNDERMINE INDIVIDUAL PLAYERS---if you disagree produce my posts to prove it. I have only ever got frustrated and upset when lads have failed to produce because they've been played out of position.

Yesterday the boys endorsed my consistently positive opinion that when we fire on all cylinders we compete comfortably at at higher level.

I do not believe we have 'arrived' yet, but I was mightily impressed by everything yesterday, and well done to Jim and the boys.
mortonjag 2007-01-07 15:17:55 Given that we've already got the cash from yesterday, AND beat an SPL club every bit as good as 'Well', I don't think this is too bad a draw though I'd rather have had them at home.

I honestly believe that our boys produce their best when they have to fight-we could have drawn a lower opponent, made no money, and still not progressed so let's stay POSITIVE.

Prediction 1-1, and a close win in the replay at Scapa, even MORE money in Dougie's piggy bank, and a quarter final home tie against Dem Tims. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-07 15:30:01
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jan 7 2007, 11:42 AM) [snapback]218876[/snapback]

I was fairly sure you'd had a dig by saying that you weren't convinced by 'the darling' of some of the support ie he is no good. Temps has been performing well for weeks now. Maybe it wasn't you. I can't imagine how I would have got you mixed up with someone who's been making negative posts about everything.

Well just to put matters right once and for all, I did NOT say that, and have always wondered what went wrong for Sanny in the first place. When terms like 'big Jessie' and 'plank of wood' and 'will never be a footballer' were flying about, I always pointed out that you don't become the top scorer in any division without ability, and that he clearly wasn't fitting in for one or another reason.

I believe that McInally, (who puts his success all down to extra training) !!!, has finally realised that Sanny is his 'own man'-maybe not quite Andy Ritchie, but in the same mould-you've GOT to let him do his own thing if you're to get the best from him, and hopefully he'll now get a free running role alongside Linn and we'll start banging them in.
mortonjag 2007-01-07 15:38:46
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 7 2007, 01:34 AM) [snapback]218760[/snapback]

No you are the twat. You have critisized the Chairman today. In the past you have without justifacation critisized Greacen. He played a blinder today, as he has done most of the season. You are the most negative poster on this forum regarding Morton. One must question your motives.
You can't get at Greacen so you move to the Chairman.

My assumption is, you are either a skunk in disguise or a twat

Congratulations to Narky Arky on his promotion to top negative poster-guess I'll have to try harder! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-07 15:48:56
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jan 7 2007, 03:32 PM) [snapback]219015[/snapback]

Chris has always tried to work for the team and has improved greatly probably through hard work in training and maybe, just maybe, we are beginning to see teh player he was when with Brechin.
Yesterday his work ethic was tremendous as was the skills that he displayed and you could see from his celebrations just how much his goals ment to him.
Keep up the good work Chris....Well done!!!!

EXACTLY-most posters seem to think Sanny's suddenly become a good player-he was playing almost as well for Brechin four seasons ago when he was allowed to adopt his natural role. He came here, and for several reasons, his head went down, but the boy ALWAYS had ability-well I could see that, even if others couldn't work out how to use him until recently.
mortonjag 2007-01-07 15:56:32
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 7 2007, 03:49 PM) [snapback]219029[/snapback]

Ianton can (presumably) stand up for what he's said.

I'd rather leave it because:

1) He's entitled to his opinion, no matter how greetin-faced it may be in this instance biggrin.gif
2) The vast majority of posters on the thread have (rightly IMO) condemned his comments and offered their support to the chairman.

Let's put this in perspective-it's Dougie's money, and I don't think we should grudge him the chance to introduce the new boy-and it will be good for Linn, as he's a cocky wee bastard, unlike Sanny, and I don't think will be fazed by expectations-that's the POSITIVE bit.

Now- imagine you're one of some 3000 Killie fans- enjoying the build up to what they think will be an easy game for them.

Suddenly, with no introduction, this doddering old guy with a mike is going on about Linn, who's already appeared on the pitch and saying 'are you there Bobby?'

I can't help imagining a few 'Who the F*CK is that's! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-07 16:02:26 What's everybody getting paranoid about-at least the bastard was true to form unlike his bottlers! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-07 16:07:58 Ryan Harding is IMO the most underrated player at Scapa-he's got a personality a wee bit like Sanny's, and we've not seen nearly the best from him yet-well done son.
mortonjag 2007-01-07 16:15:34
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jan 7 2007, 02:11 PM) [snapback]218964[/snapback]

Over the past 2 years I've felt our defence has been a real asset to the side and has been strengthened by the signing of Mathers. But surely, especially after yesterday, the back 4 must be getting scouted.

When you consider that Frazer Wright didn't make a pass all game, instead booting the ball out the park when under pressure whereas Harding and Greacen are far more composed. Weatherson and McGregor were equally composed yesterday and showed their flexibility as they swapped positions seemlessly in the second half.

Our midfield were quietly effective yesterday with Millar and McAlister particularly outstanding in their work rate. The Killie midfield barely strung 5 passes together except in the run up to Naismith's shot in the first half. And Celtic are looking at James Fowler??!!! Which one was he?!

Up front Temps and McGowan looked like the SPL strikers compared with Nish and Wales. I was concerned about Wales before the game, but he did nothing and bar Nish's goal, he didn't do a lot else except elbow Greacen as Greacen won the arial battle!

Okay our players played brilliantly today and showed great character when behind, but surely scouts will be taking note of many players when they consider the potential with the average age (excluding Mathers) of our side is under 23. (22.9)

Our back four were tremendous yesterday-I agree, but to suggest that either Weatherson or McGregor would do that week in, week out against SPL sides would be laughable. Put either of them up against a tricky traditional winger, and it's a VERY different story, and big Stu would struggle at that level IMO-Harding-well that's different-the boy hasn't fulfilled his potential yet. Anyway, well done just the same.
mortonjag 2007-01-07 16:28:16
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Jan 6 2007, 10:54 AM) [snapback]218166[/snapback]

Poor wee Killie
Poor wee Killie
What a shame we've got it in for ye
Half past four at Cartsdyke station
When the Ton are scudding you by three smile.gif

Just realised the most negative poster on the board must have been drunk yesterday morning! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-07 16:35:32
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jan 7 2007, 03:43 PM) [snapback]219022[/snapback]

I dont think Linn should start next week . both strikers performed well and dont deserved to be dropped ..

It was intresting to note in todays paper that Celtic have given Mcgowan anew contract nd have placed him in the 200k price range ..

What's the point in signing the boy and not playing him-he'll feed off Sanny-guaranteed-I know Gowser was good yesterday but he's not a striker in the true sense, and that was his first goal in over two months.
mortonjag 2007-01-07 16:58:34 Stop all greeting over nothing-as far as they're concerned the Scottish Second division isn't exactly huge news on a national scale, let's get the chip off our shoulders and back into the higher echelons where we belong.

The minute you're in their faces you start to get some respect-look at Gretna in the cup final last year, and how the press responded.
mortonjag 2007-01-07 17:05:26
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jan 7 2007, 03:53 PM) [snapback]219033[/snapback]

The coverage was pretty dammed good and I've only watched it 4 times up to now.......sorry! have to go....5th screening now starting....another beer and packet of crisps coming up!!!

I had to pinch myself quite a few times-was that a FAIR edit-if it was we were WELL ahead over the piece.

When I was a youngster and the Ton used to get regular TV coverage, I would often watch highlights after a game where I thought we'd been brilliant, only to realise it hadn't been quite so one sided, and I went home yesterday kind of expecting the same, but-NO WAY! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-07 22:17:56
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Jan 7 2007, 05:38 PM) [snapback]219134[/snapback]

Are you by chance a close friend of the Mr Harding mellow.gif .

I will admit that he is playing alot better lately and getting on the scoresheet, but i wouldnt ever say he was underestimated to be honest.

Well maybe you wouldn't, and indeed I do not know Ryan personally, though I've met him a couple of times.

The fact is that all season on this board people have been going on about McLaughlin, Millar, Stevenson, McAlister, and McGowan-not all at once I admit, but with regularity, and Ryan hardly ever gets a mention.

When the boy's at his best he's a class act IMO, but he's not had the opportunity to play alongside guys with the experience and ability to bring him on.

Just watch him over the next two or three seasons, and then ask another of your silly questions.
mortonjag 2007-01-08 07:20:10
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 7 2007, 05:49 PM) [snapback]219146[/snapback]

laugh.gif

I might just be talking garbage though mate. I've talked about the very same thing with mates though and we sort of thought that was the reason because he does have the tendency to shot with his left and more often than not when he hits a right footed shot while standing still with little time to get back lift on it his shots are pretty weak.

He's the Ronnie O'Sullivan of Scottish football-almost as good with both!
mortonjag 2007-01-08 07:52:26 Right folks-here goes-how many of you think we're going to wipe the floor with Alloa on Saturday?

It's been a FANTASTIC weekend, and I'm taking nothing away from anybody involved in Saturday's victory, but let's just consider a couple of things.

1/ It was a cup tie, the lads played 'out of their skins', and Kilmarnock were very poor by any standard.

2/ Our (in some ways more) impressive victory over St. Johnstone earlier this season was not followed by the same standard of football.

3/ Alan Maitland is no fool, and will have done his homework.

I'm afraid it's back to the grind-hopefully we'll be thrilled by some attractive football, but I'm not holding my breath for it.
mortonjag 2007-01-08 07:55:16
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jan 8 2007, 12:32 AM) [snapback]219346[/snapback]

Sean,

What you fail to realise is that DDFR coming out with the microphone was all about DDFR and his ego, NOT about Bobby Linn or Morton FC for that matter.

He loves popping out for the big crowd, he doesnt do it at wet midweek games against the likes of Alloa. The match yesterday was all about Morton and Kilmarnock and the Scottish Cup, but he couldnt resist it, he wanted to hog the limelight for himself.

What would have been wrong with the stadium announcer introducing Bobby Linn as he walked to the Centre Circle alone? Thats what would happen at any other club.

You're the narkiest c*nt on the board, but that is absolutely spot on. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-08 08:02:45
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Jan 7 2007, 07:52 PM) [snapback]219217[/snapback]

Yes Templeman had by far his best ever game in a Ton shirt but lets face it on his previous outings, that wouldn't be difficult. Although a fierce critic of Temps, it's great to see him doing well yesterday but lets wait and se if it continues before rejoicing him in a typical over the top football fan type way.

I think you're indulging in euphemism with your 'fierce critic' comment-you have consistently 'rubbished' the guy, and described him in totally disrespectful terms, and now, after SEVERAL good performances he's shown what he was always capable of.

Stick to idolising guys who DO understand football.
mortonjag 2007-01-08 08:10:05 I've posted before reading the other's comments-


Mathers



Finlayson Harding Greacen Keenan




Millar Weatherson Stevenson Russell



Templeman Linn


I do not expect much support as most of you appear to have as little imagination as the manager when it comes to team selections-AND I've just put on my thick skin! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-08 08:11:24
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Jan 8 2007, 12:15 AM) [snapback]219343[/snapback]

Bring either McLaughlin or Finlayson in for Keenan and bring Linn off the bench for 30 minutes for his debut. A time will come when Temps or McGowan is off form, then Linn will get his chance to start. But you can't drop either after their performance on Saturday.

McGowan's been off form for two months, though he played well on Saturday.
mortonjag 2007-01-08 08:47:03
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jan 7 2007, 05:21 PM) [snapback]219110[/snapback]

On the back of that amazing day yesterday and considering the proof has been laid out by all the papers, unbeaten at Cappielow all season in league and cup, plus all the plaudits we are deservedly getting, for our efforts this season even before yesterday I might add, does everyone think that next Saturday against Alloa and in the big one against Stirling the week after that we are going to see a sustained bigger home support?

I imagine we'll have a good crowd for the Alloa game, but everybody's skint in January, so unless we turn it on, the fairweather and armchair brigade won't appear the following week.
mortonjag 2007-01-08 08:48:53
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Jan 8 2007, 08:41 AM) [snapback]219393[/snapback]

The Sun has a story of why Lilley missed the game on Saturday. The article states that his daughter was rushed into hospital with suspected meningitis- all is OK.

That makes sense-I hope his wee girl's OK.

You can usually get rid of tonsilitis quite easily, except on this board! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-08 08:56:00
QUOTE(dazza @ Jan 8 2007, 08:49 AM) [snapback]219397[/snapback]

Dont be so stupid. McGowan and templeman have to start on saturday after their peformances last saturday. Finlayson will start on the right and Millar and Stevenson in the middle.

Both strikers played the best i have ever seen them play on saturday and you see McGowan on the bench!Laughable.

McGowan on the bench is anything but laughable-he had a good game on Saturday, and took his goal well, but has failed to score for two months, scorning umpteen chances which Linn would have buried with relish.

He is not a striker in the traditional sense and may well develop into an excellent attacking midfielder.

Bobby Linn has proven ability at this level-IN TERMS OF PUTTING THE BALL IN THE NET, and should start alongside Sanny. If he doesn't produce in the first half, then give Gowser a game.
mortonjag 2007-01-08 09:05:06 For me , by far the biggest laugh was Dougie saying 'Are you there Bobby?' when Linn was already well onto the pitch but the old sweetie wife was too busy facing the adoring shed (with mike in hand) to see him.

Second funniest was the wee fat chap who sat next to us with TWO cones of chips covered in gravy-trouble was he didn't have a spare hand to start demolishing them. You should have seen the almost despairing look on his face as he waited for about five minutes 'til his Dad arrived. biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-08 09:12:37 Next couple of weeks-

























































could see Stirling ahead of us-Mind you they'd have to score an awful, awful lot of goals! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-08 09:17:40 McAlister's been an ever present since he was 18, and Gowser's just turned 19.

If the only reason has been domestic-fine-but his age should not be a limiting factor IMO.
mortonjag 2007-01-08 09:22:33 It's funny how I get slagged off repeatedly for criticising the management, yet some posters here think they can get off with rubbishing Deano, who was MOTM in the previous two games, and nearly set us on our way with a scorching drive on Saturday.

What is it with you guys-has the boy done something naughty to your wee sisters? dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-08 09:26:16 biggrin.gif
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 7 2007, 11:06 AM) [snapback]218862[/snapback]

Killie had a black defender? I actually never noticed!

biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-08 09:33:52 The highlights clearly show McGowan was already falling BEFORE the defender collided with him-it was a good decision unfortunately. The 'Sanny' one was a disgrace.

McCurry seemed to give every 50-50 decision to Killie until the game was beyond them, but nobody seems to have noticed that in the last 15 minutes he was far kinder to us.
mortonjag 2007-01-08 09:41:51
QUOTE(biglarry @ Jan 6 2007, 11:56 PM) [snapback]218687[/snapback]

Bought the Record , Sun, and Herald this morning.
All had same mainly, story copied from the Wright lad of Killie, ex Stranraer, elucidating about his previous day at Scapaflow.

One paper - however, inserted a mid-text comment about the Morton ground along the lines of, " crumbling Cappielow" --- ????? i've no doubt this was not the player's comment , but usual salacious tabliod drivel.

for me - it's the end. I am giving the record the dunt and buying the herald during the week , and the Sun on Saturday, after I ditch the tits on page3 ....

Larry, I buy the Herald every day, but NOT for 2nd division coverage which is apalling-at least we sometimes get a wee 'mensh' in the 'Ranger'.

The Sun's only 10p during the week, and worth every penny for the footie and the boobies-sadly on a Saturday it's full price, and page three is usually much more conservative.
mortonjag 2007-01-08 09:47:30
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Jan 8 2007, 09:40 AM) [snapback]219410[/snapback]

While I understand your opinion, and bigdoc1874 said much the same when I previously highlighted this at the Raith game on the 23rd December. At the end of the day, it is these noises/chants that does bring the club into trouble, a fine, points docked, closing Cappielow by the SFA, SFL, UEFA. Granted people are entitled to their opinion regardless what other people may think, but when there could be a penalty against the club, then I feel these posts are justified.

I agree with both recent points, but Willow's comments highlight how ridiculous red tape can become-two or three half drunk morons making their (probably normal) monkey noises could get the club into trouble, yet Frank McGarvey type stuff, or the type of abuse Andy McLaren got, go unpunished.
mortonjag 2007-01-08 09:55:30 McInally's tactics were so superb that as Jefferies said, they could have been three or four up at half time and we'd have been dead in the water.

McInally is not a tactician, he's an inexperienced experimenter, who inevitably gets it right from time to time.

Thankfully we produced a fantastic result on Saturday, because our talented lads played out of their skins for each other-THEY won the game-not McInally.
mortonjag 2007-01-08 10:03:03 ...insisted it was nothing to do with wanting his nuts as well, but in true Samba fashion...
mortonjag 2007-01-08 10:08:32 The guy will hopefully be a millionaire in six months if eejits really believe he can tell the future.

Mind you with a pair of crystal balls you can usually see what's coming. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-08 10:15:17 It's entirely down to personality-I've got two sons. Gordon was one of only three who got a first class degree in law in his year. His mate Andrew, who also got one, went off to New York, and is earning megabucks, while Gordon chose to work for the Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commision, where he's on 'peanuts', but is totally content.

Graham, on the other hand, achieved very little at school, and the only thing that ever mattered to him was success and money.

I'm happy to say that he is now a (reasonably) contented millionaire, but he put himself and all the family through years of anguish and frustration before he got there.
mortonjag 2007-01-08 10:33:09
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 8 2007, 10:08 AM) [snapback]219419[/snapback]

Jeffries was talking absolute mince. Killie had two good chances - one for Naismith (great save) and one for Invincibile (well wide) - not three or four. We also created a lot, particularly early on in the half.

Killie seemed content to sit back and hit us on the break, hoping that once the first goal went in from them, our heads would go down and we'd start to defend. We did nothing of the sort. Jim set the team up (and the team responded amazingly) to cover their danger players (as was said in the original post) but also to attack. Both the manager and the players got it absolutely spot-on.
That seems to contradict the above.

Jim got it right. Admit it.
Nobody's saying that the players weren't amazing, but why can't you give credit where it's due to McInally as well?

In response to your last two points, I DID mean he got it right in the second half, and I will always give credit where I see it's due.

It just seems to me, though, that when the team were playing well below their capabilities, and it was SO frustrating to watch lesser sides consistently 'mug' us, if I dared to call Jim in question everybody rushed to his defence, without exactly understanding why.

Now, the minute our extremely able lads put it together on the pitch against SPL opposition who played well below form, it's all down to MASTER TACTICIAN McInally.

Maybe Killie couldn't have been three or four up at half time, but we had a neutral with us on Saturday, and despite wanting the Ton to win, he pointed out at the break that although we had done well, Killie COULD have been three up, and had been the more direct (if not most attractive) side.

Only time will tell. I hope, probably more than many, that Jim is now on a steep learning curve, as he has many admirable qualities, but I repeat-his performance to date has been frequently naive.
mortonjag 2007-01-08 10:41:09
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 8 2007, 10:34 AM) [snapback]219428[/snapback]

No, this is the part I take exception with. Nobody (that I've seen) has said anything about the players not ALSO being responsible. As you said, each one played out of their skin and were it not for their drive and ability, we would not have won.

However, Jim set up the team correctly in both the first and second half (IMO) and must also gain credit.

Morton could have been three up as well; Templeman alone had at least three good chances in the first half.

Fair enough, on this particular issue we can agree to differ as it is down to perception, but why is it we cuffed Killie yet succumbed to, for example, Alloa this season, or Stirling at Scapa last season, and why were the play-offs such a farce?

If we were seeing evidence of smart tactics on a regular basis, I'd be the first to praise JM. Sadly it's been the opposite all season, and only our vast superiority in terms of ability and fitness has got us where we currently are.
mortonjag 2007-01-08 10:43:06
QUOTE(Pat SharpTon @ Jan 8 2007, 10:36 AM) [snapback]219432[/snapback]

The Sun normally has the same Morton stories as the Tele, only a day later. Somebody told me they're printed at the same place, so it's not too hard to see what's going on.

That's probably right Pat, but I live in Glasgow and we don't get the'Tilly' here.
mortonjag 2007-01-08 10:58:23
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Jan 8 2007, 10:35 AM) [snapback]219429[/snapback]

I've heard racist chants in the shed twice in recent home matches - on Saturday made towards the Killie defender Ford, and against Cowdenbeath last month towards their No. 10. Both times the words "black *******" were shouted and it was seperate individuals that shouted it. They both stand behind me in the shed and I have seen the Cowden culprit a few times. it's disgusting language and both got a few dirty looks by people surrounding them, including myself.

So what did you do about it Iain-my brother and I spoke to the stewards after the Raith incident, as did Toby and some others, and at least something happened. It's not really enough to do nothing-and you don't have to get involved physically-thank f*ck! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-08 11:04:11 Can somebody help-I clearly remember as a teenager standing in a packed crowd at Scapa in an evening cup game against Motherwell-I know for a fact the attendance was OVER 20,000 against Motherwell, and I'm fairly sure we won.

In those days we regularly scudded Killie too.
mortonjag 2007-01-08 11:09:41
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 8 2007, 11:01 AM) [snapback]219443[/snapback]

Racist comments are a result of ignorance and leading too sheltered a life. No-one who has any friends or colleagues who are black, yellow, green or whatever would make such comments - it's because these people don't actually know any people who are slightly different from themselves that they make such remarks.

I would however suggest that the use of "black" as an adjective isn't necessarily racist, or offensive would perhaps be a better word. If someone was called a wee ginger B, that is exactly the same and no-one would accuse anyone of being gingerist. The fact is that someone who is black is, well, black. It's a distinguishing characteristic, like ginger hair or a big nose, or a fat 4rse in the case of Mark Yardley. The current climate of political correctness means that teachers aren't supposed to call a blackboard a blackboard any more - it's a chalkboard. However a whiteboard is still a whiteboard. Double standards, but in any case what black person would ever be offended by someone describing a blackboard by its correct name?

Oh, and as we're supposed to all be Jock Tamson's Bairns, why is there such an entity as the Association of Black Police Officers? Why do we have the MOBO awards? Are these not inherently racist too?

When all is said and done, calling someone a black B is just bad manners, and intended to be offensive. Perhaps more imaginative ways of being offensive are needed, because being offensive to opposition players is part and parcel of the game.

I couldn't agree more. I was recently at Broadwood and Thistle's McCullough was getting called a 'fat bastard' throughout the game to everybody's amusement, including Scott's.

PC stands for Petty C*nts much of the time.
mortonjag 2007-01-08 11:11:43
QUOTE(gorkir @ Jan 8 2007, 11:09 AM) [snapback]219449[/snapback]

in the 60's we had 2 quarter final ties in the league cup against motherwell
the first was the year when we reached the final
the other was in the late 60's when we ended up all square on aggregate and lost the third game at Ibrox (this might have been Joe Harpers last game for the Ton as Hal Stewart sold him right after the game)
both these games had large crowds at Cappielow

Cheers-it would have been the second one, as it was midweek.
mortonjag 2007-01-08 11:16:09
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 8 2007, 11:04 AM) [snapback]219444[/snapback]

Well, Saturday's result hasn't done anything to spread any unhappiness! Capricorns rule, ya bass!

Yer f*cking right Alibi, you share a birthday with my ex wife-well she THOUGHT she ruled! rolleyes.gif
Have a good one!
mortonjag 2007-01-08 12:09:43
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Jan 8 2007, 12:03 PM) [snapback]219468[/snapback]

Mathers - 10
Weatherson - 10
MacGregor - 10
Harding - 10
Greacen - 10
Keenan - 10
Millar - 10
Stevenson - 10
Templeman - 10
McGowan - 10
McAllister - 10

Finlayson - 10
A. Walker - 10
Russell - 10
Graham - 10
McGurn - 10

McInally - 10
Rae - 10
Linn - 10
Cheerleaders - 10
Cappie - 10
Killie Squirrel - 2

Home Fans - 10
Away Fans - 3

Are you some kind of demented eejit or something-Rae never deserved 10 for that performance-he should have had 15, and as for McInally-how dare you asses a deity in mortal figures! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-08 12:12:05
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 8 2007, 11:42 AM) [snapback]219460[/snapback]

The Skunks had a representative in The Stand huh.gif

He walked right through the Ton supporters in Sinclair St about 2.45pm and no-one seemed to recognise him ohmy.gif

Maybe he ain't as significant as he thinks he is laugh.gif

or was wearing a gallon of after shave.
mortonjag 2007-01-08 12:13:57
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 7 2007, 09:13 PM) [snapback]219263[/snapback]

Speaking of typical over the top football fan type comments, here's one i read the other day tongue.gif

You shouldn't bother quoting him-he obviously knows 'hee haw' about football.
mortonjag 2007-01-08 12:40:11
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jan 8 2007, 12:32 PM) [snapback]219481[/snapback]

I'm confused. Who is Graham? Is he related to Andrew? Or perhaps his Mr Hyde? Is he Gordon's brother? This is better than Neighbours.
On the thread: I agree with Puggsy. Your career is short and dependent on getting the best deal for your talent. And Stokes has yet to sign for Charlton - so all of this is a bit premature.

My comment was a valid and accurate response to the original question, and a parental perception of how youngsters see money versus contentment.

Your comment, and that of a previous poster, however, smack of an unfortunate personality trait.

I have already told you where Gordon works. I have already stated that Andrew, his mate is in the'Big Apple'.

Graham owns GX2 recruitment, based in Glasgow and Lanarkshire.

Gie's peace! sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-08 12:53:24 he looked like a rabbit on 'E', and chomping on the shavings...
mortonjag 2007-01-08 12:59:06 his doctor in a wee jar, and after some tests and a diagnosis of lousy footballer he was...
mortonjag 2007-01-08 13:01:06
QUOTE(Rodder @ Jan 8 2007, 12:58 PM) [snapback]219489[/snapback]

About a minute after coming on it looked as if he had a groin or hamstring problem and it seemed to bother him when chasing the ball in the final minutes.

Dont know if that was down to a lack of proper warm up or he overstretched for the ball.

He dislocated his jaw when it dropped in disbelief at getting a wee shot.
mortonjag 2007-01-08 13:46:09
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 8 2007, 01:09 PM) [snapback]219493[/snapback]

I'm a little confused here. Does Graham recruit footballers?

Didn't know you were that good Boozy-no he recruits labour-if you're a brickie or whatever his number's in the book!
mortonjag 2007-01-08 13:50:06
QUOTE(Roger Mellie @ Jan 8 2007, 01:29 PM) [snapback]219510[/snapback]

I think Graham should expand his business into New York. What do you think Mr Hound?

He's doing quite nicely here thank you! By the way is your middle name Stewart-just wondered 'cos that's his, and Roger S Mellie sounds just about right. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-08 13:55:13 once that he'd never again have unprotected sex with a hampster, but the road to hell is....
mortonjag 2007-01-08 14:13:40
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jan 8 2007, 01:57 PM) [snapback]219530[/snapback]

I agree with your main gist. I much prefer contentment and family time to oodles of cash. Hence why I'm a crown servant. But a footballer has a limited shelf life, as it could be argued do lawyers. Therefore the comparison is not really valid.
I've just re-read your post several times. Now, if you'd started off the new paragraph with "My other son..." it would have made sense. Despite the re-readings I'm still no clearer as to which is the millionaire.
And what personality trait are you on about? wink.gif

That's a feeble attempt at backtrack, TAFKAC, and I don't believe for one minute your disability to understand a perfectly well constructed, if slightly stilted piece of English.


I will, however, try to simplify things-the original poster was clearly asking whether youngsters with footballing ability would be tempted by money rather than loyalty or contentment-I do not think for one minute he expected complicated replies about 'the shelf life of a professional footballer'.

I cited the 'chalk and cheese' example of my sons because it is a valid comment on how a youngster's personality affects his approach to life, and on reading that you alluded to Jekyll and Hyde, and to soap operas. I won't insult your intelligence by elaborating on your obvious inference, or on the type of person who makes such.
mortonjag 2007-01-08 14:25:43
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Jan 8 2007, 02:00 PM) [snapback]219532[/snapback]

Oh like you you mean that slags off everything that moves inside Cappielow then when we get a few good results ye suddenly change yer tune!!

I don't rate the guy at all as I quite clearly stated and it will take more than one single outstanding performance to change my mind. At least I'm willing to be convinced I may be wrong but I won't jump on the he's been great in one game and pish in every other so lets all say he's marvellous bandwagon. The guys like yerself will be back to calling him all sorts as soon as his next bad performance comes around.

I NEVER 'slag off' any player with insulting throwaway comments-Do you get your little rocks off from your behaviour?

I am VERY critical of many things at Cappielow, and I can be scathing, but even when I have criticised players like Finlayson, McGregor, and McAlister, I've always pointed out their assets, and regularly stated they were being played out of position.

You seem to me just to be a pig headed idiot who won't accept he's been wrong-FFS man, every bloody newspaper over the last two days has been raving about the boy, the Kilmarnock fans are talking about him, but YOU don't rate the guy at all. As I said earlier you know 'hee haw' about football.
mortonjag 2007-01-08 14:48:07
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Jan 8 2007, 02:36 PM) [snapback]219545[/snapback]

So the Killie fans and the newspapers have seen all the rubbish he's produced during his time at Cappielow? Yes, he was outstanding on Saturday, it would take a clown to say otherwise but you seem to be too thick to grasp the fact that one good performance does not a player make. I have also said I am willing to admit I'm wrong and will gladly do so, infact I've said all along that I hope Templeman proves me wrong. You just stick to your fickle football attitude. Oh and by the way just because I think someone isn't up to the job I'm not allowed to say it? maybe we should all be PC and nicey nicey incase some poor wee soul has his felings upset.

It'll take a damned sight more than you to upset my feelings-those of us who have been supportive of Chris never claimed he was playing well last year. We were bitterly disappointed in a man who had already shown his ability at Brechin-so much so that Rae and McInally thought it worth investing heavily in him.

People like you, on the other hand couldn't see beyond a big gawking lad who NEVER looks an athlete and when not producing is very frustrating, but who was ALWAYS a talented footballer.

You clearly have failed to notice also that he's been one of our most consistent performers for several weeks, with your comment about one game not making a player.

Finally, though in your case it's obviously unfortunate, you ARE allowed to say what you think. Idiots often go unnoticed when they remain silent. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-08 14:51:32
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 8 2007, 02:47 PM) [snapback]219560[/snapback]

let's cut the bulls*** here, people. this guy's a dick.

You are indeed Sir-I salute your self perception! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-08 14:53:28
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 8 2007, 02:50 PM) [snapback]219564[/snapback]

I've got to stay to bring the boarfd a wee ray of sunshine after they are all depressed reading your posts

All the best to Del and his wee girl - nothing worse than worrying about your kids in that way.

All play and no work makes Jack a poor boy! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-08 14:57:00
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 8 2007, 02:52 PM) [snapback]219569[/snapback]

a total dick.

No need to boast about it just because I gave you a wee pat on the back! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-08 14:59:43 it had been moved to Inverclyde, so...
mortonjag 2007-01-08 15:35:48
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 8 2007, 03:10 PM) [snapback]219579[/snapback]

he died. But at the funeral...

mortonjag 2007-01-08 15:38:26
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Jan 8 2007, 03:32 PM) [snapback]219585[/snapback]

...No-one showed up as they all hit the pub instead where the wee barmaid....

explained that the crematorium had exploded with an obnoxious cadaverous stench of skunk, and that...
mortonjag 2007-01-08 15:43:33 I genuinely hope Craig gets out of that morass ASAP-he's too young and too good to waste his time being pressurised by those morons. Let them fill their squad with Commies, and then the authorities will hopefully change the regulations overnight, and leave them marooned!! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-09 07:35:03
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 8 2007, 04:38 PM) [snapback]219604[/snapback]

If he punched Alexander when why would they be negotiating a compo package with him when they could just sack him?

You don't automatically get the sack for doing folk a favour!
mortonjag 2007-01-09 07:41:55
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 8 2007, 04:51 PM) [snapback]219612[/snapback]

mcinally cant win!

lose and its his fault but win and its got nothing to do with him blink.gif

I don't think that's entirely fair-I have taken nothing away from Saturday's performance in any post-all I've done is state that it's ridiculous that when the boys play out of their skins for a well deserved victory-THEY don't get full credit-it's all down to some brilliant tactical plan by JM-FFS if he had moved Mathers to striker and put Midge in goal and somehow we'd still managed to win, you lot would still be praising his vision! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-09 07:43:05
QUOTE(1insert_player_here @ Jan 8 2007, 03:53 PM) [snapback]219594[/snapback]

It's completely different. Keenan gets credit on here when he deserves it (ie very rarely, and maybe with the exceptioon of ThornTON) but you are a f'cking idiot and do not know when to admit you are wrong. (ie every bloody week)

smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-09 07:48:10
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 8 2007, 07:51 PM) [snapback]219675[/snapback]

There were also quite a few times throughout the game where our defender facing upfield clearly got a shout and just let the ball run through and Mathers collected. Its a while since we've had a keeper that the defence had so much confidence in.

Funnily enough, I think that McGurn is probably a better shot stopper - not that Mathers is bad - but he does not communicate with the defence the same or command his box the same and the result is goals against.

I don't think Mathers is a bad shot stopper, but he's had very little to do in some games, and has got caught napping at times.

Like you, I noticed on more than one occasion on Saturday defenders seeming to 'duff' a clearance or challenge, only to realise they'd got a very early shout from Mathers that it was his ball-well played.
mortonjag 2007-01-09 07:55:54 I'm reluctant to admit it in public, but I've rarely been happier to be a Ton supporter.

If I can repeat that comment on Saturday, I may even manage a smile-another couple of wins after that, and I might even cancel the May suicide pact! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-09 08:02:40 It was universally agreed before the match that Jeffferies is a girning faced bastard, and having met him on a conference day at Rugby Park, I can personally confirm he's as dour as f*ck, so why are we complaining. We got it right up him, and if the Ton remain as true to recent form as he did to his, I'll be delighted
mortonjag 2007-01-09 08:11:00
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jan 8 2007, 10:17 PM) [snapback]219742[/snapback]

I don't think footballers ever develop the same affection for teams as normal joe-public fans.

There's supporting and there's supporting. How many Celtic games do you think Stokes has attended in his life?

Even the players who have an apparent real affinity with a certain club throughout their playing days rarely return as supporters. Are there any ex-Morton players who frequently (not occasionally but frequently) come back to support the team?

Hopkin is a rare example in going so far as to buy shares in the club, but how often is he seen at the ground? (Btw, this is no crticism of Hopkin).

Allan McGraw, "Mr Morton", how long was his association with the club? Where does he choose to spend his Saturday's now? I think he's been seen once at a Morton match since leaving the club (the 1998 match at Parkhead).

That's because it's a professional game and after their careers are over some guys settle where they've raised their families while others return to their roots.

Only a small percentage of footballers actually support the team they play for.

As an aside, I frequently see guys like George Anderson and Craig McPherson at Scapa.

McGraw is a Govanite who was a faithful servant to us, but he never made a secret of his Hunnery, and frankly, if I was a crippled as he is, I'd probably be tempted by the comfort and convenience of a modern stadium with all facilities including a lift.
mortonjag 2007-01-09 08:18:31 There's no straight answer-in a small very well insulated modern flat for example, with sopisticated radiator valves and a central thermostat, I believe you might gain a small advantage by retaining the core temperature, but at the end of the day, if you're heating the street as well, you've got to pay for the energy you buy one way or another.
mortonjag 2007-01-09 08:56:34 It's a good article and it highlights some of the 'behind the scenes' stuff we don't always hear about.

Jim McInally deserves huge credit for this aspect of his reign at Cappielow, and perhaps his single minded approach to his ethic WILL pay off for him in the end.

It's still sad for me though, that he almost contradicts himself by saying he didn't want old heads while admitting that the youngsters had a long way to go, and in the past two seasons that's been the Achilles heel.

The signing of Paul Mathers was hugely significant-not so much for his individual skill, but in that it was a landmark disruption of the status quo, with the ever popular McGurn immediately playing second fiddle.

Confidence seems to have grown from the moment he walked in the door.

Don't let any of us forget though, that it's just a very short time since we blew a nine point lead-hopefully we have now turned the corner, but forget last Saturday, and concentrate on Alloa.

mortonjag 2007-01-09 09:19:15
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jan 8 2007, 02:44 PM) [snapback]219557[/snapback]

I'm not backtracking. I read your original post too quickly. The key point in this is the shelf life of a footballer. If a footballer had the luxury of a career that lasts 40 years then he can let his heart rule his head. He hasn't so he can't, unless he's completely stupid and ignores all advice. Or have i said that already. To try and say that's not valid is, I believe, missing the point.
As to J&H comments - it's called humour. Not everyone's cup of tea. If I offended you, then apologies. But you put them into the mix.

Fair enough.

The original poster said Stokes is a Celtic supporter but was going elsewhere for money.

If Gordon had been Stokes, he's have played for Dem Tims for half the cash, whereas Graham would have been at Charlton or Sunderland, and wanting more in two weeks.

That WAS the point of my valid post, and it's a pity it was misconstrued.
mortonjag 2007-01-09 09:26:53 a pained expression-'Oh if only I could-that's why I'm here-even when I was a wee boy I was bullied because I couldn't laugh or smile, but I do like the treatment here-it's ages since I got a blow job from somebody in a nurses uniform while....
mortonjag 2007-01-09 09:36:21
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 9 2007, 09:26 AM) [snapback]219836[/snapback]

Isn't he a profoundly ugly man? I mean, honestly, he's hideous. He's so puffy, yet somehow gaunt at the same time. I don't know how he does it, the freakshow.

Word has it that he was once an extremely handsome young man until he developed acute on chronic paranoia.
That in itself can crucify the strongest of personalities, but along with his haemorrhoids and that wife, can we really blame the poor soul.

More to be pitied I say.
mortonjag 2007-01-09 09:59:52 Jim McInally was for the first time giving the orders as he cynically and sycophantically signed a get well card which read.....
mortonjag 2007-01-09 10:10:14 Is he that man with the Quasimodo mask who kept shouting things on Saturday-I don't like him-what's his name..to which Jim replied with a grimace...
mortonjag 2007-01-09 10:29:11 'Stop takin' the piss-ye know a cannae write'-meanwhile back at the Priory Dougie was warming to the blow job treatment, but stubbornly refused to cross dress, citing his Methodist ethos, at which....
mortonjag 2007-01-09 10:35:17 nothing as Dougie quickly repositioned her head, whilst quoting the Gideons bible he'd found on his locker--'Out of the mouths of babes and sucklings cometh forth...
mortonjag 2007-01-09 10:58:04 as the nurse mumbled almost inaudibly something about 'him that cometh unto me', while Dougie had discarded the bible in favour of a tattered Mayfair.....
mortonjag 2007-01-09 11:17:52
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 9 2007, 11:10 AM) [snapback]219874[/snapback]

Admittedly he should have been more gracious to the manner of our victory . At the end of the day he was probably more wrapped up with the problems that his teams defeat by so called lesser opposition brings.
Kilmarnock aren't in great financial shape so this is a blow to Jim Jeffries transfer window situation and I'm talking about the young talent going rather than new faces coming in .
Its his job to get his team playing better not to give us plaudits after all think how miffed DDFR would have been if JJ had started praising us up .

Exactly-in many ways it's a back handed compliment that he ripped into his squad.

If he had stood up and saluted Morton's victory most folk would just have taken it as an empty, if not tongue in cheek compliment.
mortonjag 2007-01-09 11:24:15 Confidence is high, and we're playing the best stuff in a while.

If Linn starts, AND we go on attack from the start, this could be a repeat of Alloa's last visit.

I hate predictions, but Sanny's on song, so-

Morton 4 (Templeman 2 Linn 1 Millar 1) Alloa less than 4!
mortonjag 2007-01-09 11:31:03 This year's show is a poor shadow of last year, when we had Barrymore, Pete Burns, Galloway Lenska et al.

Jade minging Goody, her psychodyke one armed bandit mother, and her Alf Garnett and his wife grandparents are clearly as offensive to the real celebs, as the show's probably become to the public. They've got it so wrong this year and no wonder Ken Russel's walked out.
mortonjag 2007-01-09 11:36:47 about it as best he could when just about to 'come' for the first time in forty years-then- with a huge beaming grin, he...
mortonjag 2007-01-09 11:48:56 the heads went up as a hard black pencil shot out of the back of the poor nurse's neck, embedding itself deeply.....
mortonjag 2007-01-09 11:52:11
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 9 2007, 11:40 AM) [snapback]219887[/snapback]

I can see where you are coming from but I play sports and when I have been beaten by an opponent whom I would have expected to beat I would still have the grace, no matter how sick i felt, to congratulate the opposing player/team.

Even if you saw next years salary prospect going down the pan? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-09 12:00:06
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 9 2007, 11:52 AM) [snapback]219892[/snapback]

Absolute nonsense. If you maintain a temperature higher than outside, the building will be losing heat, at a rate dependent on the insulation value of walls roof and floor. If you allow the building to cool to ambient temperature, it won't be losing heat.

To maintain a constant temperature, you have to put in the same amount of heat energy as is lost. If you turn the heating off, you don't. Obvioulsy when you turn the heating back on, it will take some energy to re-heat the house, but the total amount of energy used to heat the house for part of a day is always going to be less than if the house is heated constantly. It's simple physics. The only exception would be if it was hotter outside than in, in which case your thermostats would presumably switch the heating off anyway.

If you want to save energy, turn the thermostats in each room down (if you havethem fitted) by a small amount, and turn them right down in rooms you don't use. And change suppliers - some like Scottish Power and Scottish Gas are extremely expensive.

That's of course correct-you know much more than I do about those things, but what about the 'storage' heating function of a building's structure (retained heat)-is there a scenario where it could be so cold outside that by allowing the house to cool right down to that level it would be more expensive to reheat, than maintaining a constant base of say 18 degrees C?
mortonjag 2007-01-09 12:03:13
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 9 2007, 11:58 AM) [snapback]219896[/snapback]

Problem with that is he has been quoted in the sunday rags as saying that the club does not bank on a cup run, as most clubs don't, so it's money that the club never budgeted for in the first place. Still doesn't condone the fact that he couldn't find the decency to wish the boys all the best for the next round. He didn't have to say that we played them off the park or that we made them look very ordinary, which would be the truth anyway, all he had to do was wish them all the best. It's not a lot to ask for, a bit of decency and good sportsmanship. Didn't really have much of an opinion about him before this but now can't stand the fecker.
P.S. loving your posts on the continuing story saga thread.

ta-but I've a sneaky feeling we'll soon get a complaint-something about rags being bad enough, but this hardcore's just OTT! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-09 12:07:49 Paw, yer a f*ckin dickhead-how often has ma maw telt ye no tae play wi' yer pencil? Dougie, looking vaguely abashed as he donned his black and white striped pyjamas....
mortonjag 2007-01-09 12:32:44 the next bed-Dougie looked aghast as a humungous toly slowly writhed its way out of Jefferies contorted mouth while the nurse rushed to fetch...
mortonjag 2007-01-09 12:35:46
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 9 2007, 12:30 PM) [snapback]219905[/snapback]

You don't mean JJ reads this do you? ohmy.gif

Doubt it-he's definitely a Telegraph/Financial Times wallah! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-09 12:45:17 'and here at the Priory I've been trying to speak to Kilmarnock Manager Jim Jefferies, but all I got was a mouthful of...
mortonjag 2007-01-09 12:48:23
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 9 2007, 12:42 PM) [snapback]219910[/snapback]

3-0
Sanny 2, Spoonsy penalty.
Crowd 2598.
I see Davie Somers is reffing. What's he like again?

Tends to blow hot and cold-did he not do the Annan game?

I can certainly remember him being laid cold at Scapa and Chick took over, running the line.
mortonjag 2007-01-09 12:57:29
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Jan 9 2007, 12:50 PM) [snapback]219914[/snapback]

Well before I go on a tangent, can I firstly wish Every one ( this goes for Pie Hut as we'el) A Pappy New Year and I hope you all had a good time during the Festive Period.

Also I would Like to take this oppertunity to eat some Humble Pie as to Some of My comments in the past about DDR.( some justified at times).But I have to say on Saturday afternoon at 4.45pm exactly I had just witnessed my Proudest moment as being a Morton supporter. I was expecting a Killie win to be honest but was prepared to take that on the chin so long as we see a good Morton performance. To see a 2nd div Morton team TOTALY outplay a SPL euro chalenging side with such fire and THRASHING them into the bargain was
total HEAVEN to me

Under Hal Stewart I was privelaged to witness Morton Top the league on my 16th Birthday by beating Celtic 1-0, Morton go to Ibrox and record a 1-0 victory see ourteam turn out in national cup semi finals at Hampden and Parkhead.

I have to say what Morton Achieved on Sat eclipses that and It is all down to DDR he has been critisized from time to time about the way Morton were moving forward, now its there for all to see A good Morton Managment team, backroom staff along with a very young team with lots of promise.Not to forget the best fans in the world cool.gif

So to you Mr Rae I say THANK YOU and long my our form continue you DESERVE praise when due.

P.S. you know my 'phone number-aye me Bawheid, the guy wi' seven starvin' weans rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-09 13:00:58
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 9 2007, 12:57 PM) [snapback]219917[/snapback]

Is that the same guy. That was a game against Airdrie if I remember correctly. Must say I tend not to really notice the refs to much (with the obvious exceptions Colin fcuking Hardie etc).

I'm fairly sure though somebody'll maybe confirm. He seems to relate reasonably well with the players, but has had a couple of howlers for us.
mortonjag 2007-01-09 13:05:37 for his autograph, but, bereft of his pencil, and spattered in spunk and s*** he just wasn't up for anything, until.....
mortonjag 2007-01-09 13:35:12 mistaking her gestures as a 'come on' summoned all his might, and stripping himself naked...
mortonjag 2007-01-09 13:48:03
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 9 2007, 01:38 PM) [snapback]219930[/snapback]

If you have masonry walls (as opposed to timber frame) or a concrete floor slab, these elements would heat up and radiate heat back into the room when the heating was off (that's why conventional houses tend to stay warm for a while whereas timber frame ones tend to cool down quite quickly despite their better insulation), but it doesn't make any difference to the basic fact that whatever heat is lost has to be put back and the higher the room temperature and the longer it is at that temperature, the more energy you'll use, therefore keeping it heated 24/7 is dearer.

Thanks-it's never easy is it!

Ach well I'm away out for more thermal knickers. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-09 13:52:27
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jan 9 2007, 01:38 PM) [snapback]219929[/snapback]

What a stupid thing to say. You can't blow a lead before the end of the season.

We are now 6 points clear so Stirling have clawed back 3 points on us despite winning 10 games in a row at one point.

rolleyes.gif

A 'lead' simply means you're ahead. You could 'blow a lead' three times in a season and still win, but then you're still in your wonder years! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-09 14:34:43 usual sarcastic comment about grown men behaving like wee boys, as she hastily hobbled to the safety of the locked ward.

Meanwhile back at Cappielow, an eerie hush hung in the air. Nobody had quite got used to not looking over his shoulder, and not having to rub E45 on his sore wrists. Unknown to most, however, a deep secret lurked in the bowels of the quaint old stadium....
mortonjag 2007-01-09 14:45:32 a copy of the last will and testament of Hugh Scott, bequeathing all his worldly goods.....
mortonjag 2007-01-09 14:54:20 tossed away in disgust. Suddenly, to his absolute horror, sticking out from under an enormous pile of pencil shavings, Arthur spotted a human....
mortonjag 2007-01-09 15:02:24 apologising profusely, he asked what it had been doing under the pencil shavings. Battered, and barely able to speak, it mumbled something about a trapdoor....
mortonjag 2007-01-09 15:19:39 every single one of them had a hard black pencil sticking up....
mortonjag 2007-01-09 15:26:56 some...meanwhile, they were cutting up chunks of the stuff and devouring them like Aulds pies, as they merrily whistled to the tune of 'We're no the Killie...
mortonjag 2007-01-09 15:52:38 the secret transpired to be that every Auld's special contains five pencil shavings, and this is the reason for Dougie's lifetime addiction, as when he was a wee boy, his mother used to feed him one every lunctime, saying, 'Get that into you son, and you'll grow up to be a ....
mortonjag 2007-01-09 15:59:43 Meanwhile, back at the Priory, Dougie was preparing for his discharge.

Armed with a copy of 'Living without pencil shavings', the addresses of all the local Wood Chompers Anonymous branches, and a couple of useful telephone numbers, he manfully strode down Mansionhouse Road, only to.....
mortonjag 2007-01-09 16:41:18 mistaking him for an absconded patient huckled him straight back to the long stay ward. On hearing the news, the planned Cappielow coup could now be....
mortonjag 2007-01-09 17:03:24
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 9 2007, 04:40 PM) [snapback]220004[/snapback]

We will beat Motherwell. We play better against better opposition than against the more physical 2nd division teams. We have skill in our team and are reasonably well organised. They are a poorish SPL team in a poorish SPL, and we really have nothing to fear but fear itself.

I forecast a 5-1 win against Killie, as per season 64-65. For this one, I forecast it will be a repeat of 63-64, when we beat them 2-0 on aggregate in the league cup. So, 0-0 at Fir Park and 2-0 to us in the replay.

What you say about how we and they play is correct, but there is still some gap between ourselves and the SPL.

I agree we should give them a run for their money, but to hope for two SPL scalps on the trot is maybe a wee bit greedy! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-09 17:16:31
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 9 2007, 05:04 PM) [snapback]220009[/snapback]

a fresian or a highland. In the meantime at Brigde of Weir, Martin Clark was heard to utter the immortal line...

Spoonsy, how many times have I told you not to...
mortonjag 2007-01-09 17:47:32 and written in your contract next to the no gambolling bit-- while I'm on the subject...
mortonjag 2007-01-09 17:51:53
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 9 2007, 05:47 PM) [snapback]220022[/snapback]

Templeton has signed for Hearts for £30,000.

What a sad day-from amateur to salt mine slave in one fell swoop!
mortonjag 2007-01-09 17:55:06
QUOTE(WullTon @ Jan 9 2007, 05:43 PM) [snapback]220020[/snapback]

Put him on the bench laugh.gif

and make him recite page 6 from the latest Ikea catalogue 'til he promises to start scoring again! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-09 17:57:58
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Jan 9 2007, 05:47 PM) [snapback]220023[/snapback]

and written in your contract next to the no gambolling bit-- while I'm on the subject...

is that a Bookie's pen behind your left ear, or just one of....
mortonjag 2007-01-09 18:07:42 I'd go for Kev Finlayson-he never seems to cause any trouble, does exactly what he's told whether he likes it or not, and rarely complains about anything.
mortonjag 2007-01-09 18:11:25
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 9 2007, 06:05 PM) [snapback]220029[/snapback]

Did anyone have the same take on this as myself?

I felt when Jeffries named 9 players either injured or with viruses in the lead up to the match, it was a botched attempt at mind games. When the teams were announced with all the named players in place, Jim McInally and the Morton players were meant to fall apart when they realised they were playing the full Kilmarnock team and not the reserves.

I don't know if JM and the players sensed fear, but the plan backfired spectacularly and must have left Jeffries humiliated. Did he accept an iota of blame or give Morton an ounce of credit? No, instead he chose to lambast his players in the dressing room and the media. He should take a look at himself, and leave the mind games to Fergie.

Maybe it was more simply that several of the squad WERE still slightly under par after the virus infection, but he felt they could cut it OK against the wee Ton, and let them play anyway!
mortonjag 2007-01-10 06:58:52 The main difference between Andy and Sanny is that WHEN Sanny gets it right he can look inspired, but his game is hit and miss, and his form varies.

Ritchie on the other hand was a natural genius-he actually played below his real level for us, but unlike the anxious and keen to please Temps, Andy didn't give a f*ck about anybody or anything.

WHEN he could be bothered trying, he rarely made a mistake-you could see that goal coming the minute he took on the first of-say-four defenders outside the box, or when he quickly glanced up from 30 yards out before leaving a goalie stranded.

Andy was a flawed player a -30% man-but that 30% was 500% entertainment every time-I admire Sanny, but sorry NO comparison.
mortonjag 2007-01-10 07:35:22
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 10 2007, 07:16 AM) [snapback]220149[/snapback]

Does McGowan ever smile ? Even after scoring against Kilmarnock he did not smile.........strange

He comes over as one of those very intese guys who can't relax during a game, but I bet he had a good old laugh in the dressing room.

Frankly I believe it's his determination and professional approach which have seen him selected for every game since he came, even when his form dropped.
mortonjag 2007-01-10 07:39:11
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jan 10 2007, 04:20 AM) [snapback]220140[/snapback]

It was 2K, Scott.

As for Saturday, no way in hell can we reward the performance of Paul or Chris against Killie with a demotion to the bench. The two of them have worked their socks of to gain/keep their place so Bobby will have to bide his time and do the same.

If Scott's not fit then I'd replace Deano with Kevin and go with;

______________________Mathers_________________

Weatherson______Greacen_____Harding____McGregor

Finlayson______Millar_______Stevenson_____McAlister

_____________Templeman______McGowan_________

I wonder if Kevin would be any good in the holding role which would allow Millar to continue out wide right?

Food for thought.

Finlayson was wasted wide right last year, and you wouldn't agree with my take Bob.

Now, when he's shown in several matches what he can do when played in his correct role, he's being left on the fringes of the team-strange IMO.
mortonjag 2007-01-10 07:52:51 your tattoos--oh and stop patting Midge's bum-FFS Jimbo move over a bit-you've dug a bloody hole with all your running--suddenly all heads turned-- a pale faced and breathless JM arrived with the shocking news that...
mortonjag 2007-01-10 08:59:29 it was possibly a mistaken diagnosis, as AIDS is frequently confused with epidemic post skunk match sickness..anyhow, back in the long stay unit Dougie was rapidly kissing his last marble goodbye, as he longed for....
mortonjag 2007-01-10 09:08:35 confused was the old bod, but the kind nurse offered him a...
mortonjag 2007-01-10 09:35:05
QUOTE(adder4 @ Jan 10 2007, 09:14 AM) [snapback]220176[/snapback]

big temps could not lace big Andys boots and thats a fact prove me wrong !!!!

Correct-everybody knows Andy was so f*ckin' lazy he played in his gutties! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-10 09:37:49
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 10 2007, 09:12 AM) [snapback]220175[/snapback]

preferred a cold bath full of semolina because...

he was allergic to fish. Unfortunately all the semolina had...
mortonjag 2007-01-10 09:41:44
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jan 10 2007, 09:07 AM) [snapback]220172[/snapback]

Jeezo, are you guys thick or summat? Fancy not getting the drift of a Bawheid post.

What he means is that thanks to the femininst and civil right movements etc, we got the PC tongue.gif

And what about good old thomas Crapper and flushing lavvies-hence to 'crap'.
mortonjag 2007-01-10 09:42:53
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 10 2007, 09:00 AM) [snapback]220167[/snapback]

When my missus goes to church on a Sunday (she being of the catholic persuasion), I always refer to it as her going to "force over acceleration". Always baffles her, but it's quite simple: F = ma, therefore m = F/a. One of Newton's laws, made some time before he emigrated to Oz.

m =F/a mass means f*** all Alibi? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-10 09:55:50 Just the latest in a series of criminal rapes of the motoring public, and all to make more money.

This has got f*ck all to do with safety, reducing emissions, improving mobility and so on, it's just a smash and grab.

I'm all for responsible driving, but before long the outside lanes of our motorways will be a 55 m.p.h. procession of Reliant Robins, Grannies in clapped out Nissan Micras, and Muslims in masks with no driving licences as they never get challenged by the polis.

Interspersed rarely within the dreary caravan will be the occasional Carrera, Jag XK, and Beamer, but the bike boys will just have emigrated along with most who used to enjoy driving decent motors.
mortonjag 2007-01-10 10:03:53
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ Jan 10 2007, 09:57 AM) [snapback]220189[/snapback]

required to be submerged in a bath of wood pulp to counteract the effects of the fish. However, on the "scale" of things things were a bit "fin" on the ground at Bridge of Weir, so

they 'phoned Janne Lindberg as he was the Finn expert, but he was out buying pencils for his Uncle Marko, so...
mortonjag 2007-01-10 10:27:10 Jade Goody, and anyway his phone was off the hook, so they were forced to try a new angle--Jade was for nefarious reasons known to her associates as..
mortonjag 2007-01-10 10:31:59
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 10 2007, 10:29 AM) [snapback]220195[/snapback]

the skipper. Also invited was...

the Skipper's mother-'One arm psychodyke Goody'-meanwhile the new angle proved fruitless as.....
mortonjag 2007-01-10 10:40:39
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ Jan 10 2007, 10:37 AM) [snapback]220197[/snapback]

Borat had kidnapped Jade Goodey and married her. She was now the number 1 prostitute in Kazakhstan and was also in charge of the Federation of Kazak Pencil Sharpeners, so

rapid was her climb to fame in a male dominated culture, but of course that came as no surprise to anyone who'd seen her dick. Meanwhile..
mortonjag 2007-01-10 10:44:46
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 10 2007, 10:41 AM) [snapback]220199[/snapback]

dougie offered Borat a contract as Morton's number 1 striker for gial scoring in return for pencils and sharpners but this fell through as....

he hated racist chants, so...
mortonjag 2007-01-10 10:51:45
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ Jan 10 2007, 10:48 AM) [snapback]220205[/snapback]

ugly women, but Jade offered herself as the main stay in the May Hughes Dancers and in her first appearance in front of the Cowshed she

exposed her ample left breast and revealed a nine hole golf course
mortonjag 2007-01-10 10:55:17
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 10 2007, 10:52 AM) [snapback]220210[/snapback]

Mark Farrell for a loan of his lawnmower. Mark was unable to do this as...

he couldn't take his eyes off her first hole, and...
mortonjag 2007-01-10 10:57:43
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ Jan 10 2007, 10:54 AM) [snapback]220213[/snapback]

Dougie had blunted all of the blades by sharpening his pencils. So Mark asked Jade if......

he could trim her hole with blunt shears instead, and she beamed and remarked, in full hearing of the said shed...
mortonjag 2007-01-10 11:09:22
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Jan 10 2007, 10:53 AM) [snapback]220211[/snapback]

I get slated for saying that Templeman shouldn't be worshipped nor should final verdict be passed on one truly outstanding performance against a year of mediocrity and below par efforts yet someone comes out with a statement as ridiculous as the above and not an eye is blinked.

According to McInally's comments at the wekend, he reckons Templeman has finally realised that he needs to work hard to improve. This says two things to me, one positive and one negative. The positive is that it's great testament to the guy that he's realised he's in last chance saloon probably not only for his Morto career but also his full time career which he so badly wants and done something about it. On the negative side McInally's comments seem to infer that sinces Templeman arrived until earlier this season, he hasn't bothered his arse and so has cheated all those that come to see him.

As I've said, a few more performances like Saturday, I'll be on here saying he's great. No doubts he's improved this season (like I said though that wouldn't be hard on last season's offerings) but lets not go overboard by comparing him to one of the greatest players ever to wear the Jersey.

It's interesting to see how you've twisted the original poster's point in yet another feeble attempt to justify your unwarranted tirades against Temps, while jumping on the bandwagon of those of us who knew and loved AR.

Big Sanny has indeed some Ritchiesque ability, and nobody (except you perhaps) will deny the entertainment value when he's 'on song'. All WE were doing was comparing good with great.
mortonjag 2007-01-10 11:14:25
QUOTE(stubaws @ Jan 10 2007, 10:51 AM) [snapback]220208[/snapback]

to be fair he probably doesnt give a dam about how well morton played - all hes worried about (and quite rightly) is how poor his team were. a wee bit of praise would've been nice but we've been getting it from everyone else so i wouldnt worry too much about him. lets just be happy that we got both a performance and a result on saturday

Precisely-Jefferies is many things, but not stupid, and he's hurting like f*ck inside that his SPL side got 'done over' by us. That doesn't mean he should suddenly become Mr Nice Guy to make us all feel EVEN better.
mortonjag 2007-01-10 11:15:42
QUOTE(ayrton @ Jan 10 2007, 11:13 AM) [snapback]220227[/snapback]

Ah Mortonjag I think you might be getting it.

smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-10 11:20:13
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 10 2007, 11:16 AM) [snapback]220230[/snapback]

decided to start booing jade goody and saying McInally should go after her woeful performance but McInally smirked and said...

I'll never let one useless c*nt affect my whole squad, while laughing at Borat's signing for the Skunks with the comment...
mortonjag 2007-01-10 11:27:42
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 10 2007, 11:25 AM) [snapback]220237[/snapback]

I will have them relegated by the end of the season. Next year you will have full points against them and also...

A fifty meter mast in the shape of my penis shall be erected over their new stadium, and shall be adorned with a Morton flag and a pair of Jade Goody's...
mortonjag 2007-01-10 11:47:57
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Jan 10 2007, 11:40 AM) [snapback]220244[/snapback]

Who's jumping on the bandwagon, not me it seems?

As for seeing Ritchie play, how do you know whether I have or haven't. Unwarranted tirades - how many goals did he score last season? Out on loan to his old club because of inept performances at Cappielow. Aye unwarranted sure. Me thinks it's the defence of him during that period that's unwarranted.

Because some of us objected to the comparison, YOU clearly jumped on the bandwagon in yet another pathetic, and thinly disguised pop at Sanny.

Whether or not you saw Ritchie play is of no consequence, as you clearly can't tell a footballer from one of you fellows in Ravenscraig.

If that's an unfair assessment, no doubt you will have the good grace to face reality, accept that Templeman CAN play football, and shut your overactive fly trap on the issue.
mortonjag 2007-01-10 11:56:10
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ Jan 10 2007, 11:35 AM) [snapback]220242[/snapback]

soiled scants to assist in masking the foul odour coming from the stadium.
Roger Graham printed the following report on the matter........

HAS BORAT GOT BALLS?

Morton fans were delighted to see the fifty meter penile Borat emblem at new Skunkery last Saturday, when the team totally overran a feckless St Mirren 11 who were made to look like schoolboys, but to a man they were asking-WHERE ARE HIS BALLS?

A belated report from never never land suggests that a 40 meter diameter Borat testicle of solid bronze is to be....
mortonjag 2007-01-10 12:03:36
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 10 2007, 11:54 AM) [snapback]220251[/snapback]

And you Sir are as witty as a brick. Yes I read your post and do understand the English language. I've been following Morton for 43 years through the best and worst of times and stand by my opinion. So sorry if it does not concur with yours. biggrin.gif

I don' t usually jump in to defend other posters DE, but the guy WAS only trying to highlight Sanny's individual skill, entertainment value, and in some ways, his similarity to AR.

He was not trying to defile the image of our collective God! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-10 12:09:52
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 10 2007, 12:01 PM) [snapback]220253[/snapback]

checked for cancer after borat found a lump, he was said to be very worried but hoped all would be ok and was reporting says "s'nice...fun time" before....

revealing that, given the all clear, and alongside its partner, it would be mounted on the roof of the New Skunkery main Stand as a...
mortonjag 2007-01-10 12:21:53
QUOTE(ayrton @ Jan 10 2007, 12:15 PM) [snapback]220261[/snapback]

I have always said people would be suprised just how fit he was. Yes that does suprise me though but to tell you the truth don't remember him sprinting past people. His feet were so quick and his brain that switched on he didn't need speed. Thought peanuts or Orr would have been the quickest but thanks for that piece of info. Just for the record I'm not saying he is as good. No one will ever be, no one could ever be.

The point DOT was making is that he could cover short distances at an amazingly deceptive speed, and that very fact, was masked by his general lethargy.
mortonjag 2007-01-10 12:24:23
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jan 10 2007, 12:20 PM) [snapback]220264[/snapback]

shrine to alan stubbs. Stubbsy has stated in the Daily Star that...

any man who has the balls to drop 500 tons of bronze on a skunk filled stadium deserves...
mortonjag 2007-01-10 12:33:46
QUOTE(mmm beer @ Jan 10 2007, 12:30 PM) [snapback]220269[/snapback]

Does the hospitality have a dress code? I'm going in a few weeks, basically hours after I arrive back at Glasgow Airport and I'm intending to travel light. I looked at the pictures on the official site and everyone seemed to be wearing a tie and jacket.
It's my first game in since 1999 and I used to be a home and away regular. God I canny wait.

Nobody said anything to me about dress code when we went, though everybody seemed quite smartly dressed.

As long as you laugh at Dougie's jokes, and don't but in when he's talking, you can probably go in your birthday suit if you want! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-10 13:33:16
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Jan 10 2007, 12:45 PM) [snapback]220275[/snapback]

Is WATTS the same as a currant and if so where does that leave the raisins and sultanas or are they all of one and one in all ..............so to speak, and while on that subject did Mr Kilpling not invent summit with all of the above combined by energy from WATTS of some kind...............here Im gettin a buzz oot oh this science noncence unsure.gif blink.gif biggrin.gif laugh.gif

Naw Bawheid-Mr Kipling was just into tarts, and the odd weighty poem-Archimedes is my favourite-one day he was experimenting on gravity-he'd dropped one of his stools into a big cistern, and was suddenly heard to exclaim 'EUREKA', but I've yet to understand if that's a Greek word, or whether one of his lab technicians was from paisley.
mortonjag 2007-01-10 13:58:10 double checked, and indeed it WAS 5000 tons and not the previous figure. Encouraged by his doctor's report and a couple of quick 'E's he ...
mortonjag 2007-01-10 14:01:58
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 10 2007, 01:52 PM) [snapback]220302[/snapback]

This ridiculous scheme for "road pricing" is just a back door way to grab more tax, with surveillance thrown in for good measure - expect John Reid to come out with some sh1te about how they need to be able to track terrorists etc etc.

There is already a mechanism to make people pay more the more they drive - it's called fuel duty, and it varies with mileage and the fuel consumption of your car. Of course, if they just hiked fuel duty, it would go down badly with the electorate, so they come up with this intrusive scheme.

Just because something is technically possible doesn't mean it's a good idea.

BTW does the government provide a convenient place for online petitions out of altruism? Or is this really a way of saying "if you're a troublemaker sign up here, give us your email address and your personal details so we can keep tabs on you". Wouldn't surprise me if something sinister happened to signatories, such as strange tracking cookies appearing on their computers to allow the government to read their emails etc.

Your post has been noted. Big Brother will get back to you. Is your pasport valid? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-10 14:04:42
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 10 2007, 02:03 PM) [snapback]220311[/snapback]

It was when I fled the country this morning.....

What's the weather like down there?
mortonjag 2007-01-10 14:06:44 with the explanation that he'd just been emasculated for a humanitarian cause, but that it was f*ckin'....
mortonjag 2007-01-10 14:34:23
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Jan 10 2007, 01:50 PM) [snapback]220300[/snapback]

Naw in Paisley there awe EUREKIN because of the obvious lack oh soap...............whats that they ask, where I relpy go down tae Coronation Street and ask the Neighbours if Kylie is Home or away..............

Just for the record who invented soap was is some fairy in paisley or was that down tae James Watt anoll hense all the bubbles gave him the Idea of a Light bulb how did he power it up if there wiz nae electricity or was he that rich he had CABLE, well Ive got sky is that how the sun works where does that get plugged intae.......................who ever owns it must huv some size oh Lecky bill. ohmy.gif huh.gif blink.gif laugh.gif biggrin.gif cool.gif

Don't be daft Bawheid-soap wasn't invented-when Eve first met Adam, her hole was full of--oops--got that wrong I guess.

Anyhow, I hate to suggest it, but maybe the Skunks have got it right. Let's face it, ALL animals have their own clever ways of staying clean, and if it has to be a massive licking each other all over every Lent, don't let's be too hard on the poor b*stards.
mortonjag 2007-01-10 14:36:42
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 10 2007, 02:07 PM) [snapback]220319[/snapback]

If you mean Dumfries, sunny and mild. Where's winter gone, I want the chance to make use of my four wheel drive car!

See this global warming, all that cnut Blair's fault - his holiday flight was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Same up here-I had the car hood down there when I was out for my 'messages'. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-10 14:37:47
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 10 2007, 02:34 PM) [snapback]220325[/snapback]

Jeremiah Clarkstoned is alive and well. biggrin.gif

wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-10 14:42:31
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Jan 10 2007, 02:30 PM) [snapback]220324[/snapback]

My sources tell me he has a good chance of signing for Rangers, Mrs B wont be happy I have gave out her privy info......................but I couldnae haud that back fae you lot

FFS the toon's bad enough on a Saturday night without Plastic Tits and another entourage of WAGs
mortonjag 2007-01-10 15:00:28
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Jan 10 2007, 02:53 PM) [snapback]220342[/snapback]

Could we Rename the Concesion Turnstyle as the Victoria Becham Turnstyle
as there were a Q a mile long just waitin tae enter her awe fur a tenner

Sadly she won't accept pre-decimal coinage Bawheid! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-10 15:03:58 He hired a helicoter, stripped her naked, wrapped her in a flimsy tattered Ton scarf, flew her to Paisley, and...
mortonjag 2007-01-10 15:06:59 as they flocked in their hordes to gobble the revolting excrement...
mortonjag 2007-01-10 15:19:13 she hacked off her left breast, 9 hole golf course and all, and bequeathed it to a gaping Andy Millen, who immediately...
mortonjag 2007-01-10 15:37:30
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 10 2007, 03:29 PM) [snapback]220368[/snapback]

also ensured the Pishley Polis were never quiet. Meanwhile there is unrest at Buchanan Towers, Fort Matilda because Crawford had....

Also been a right tit for almost as long and, consumed with jealousy, had raided his father's....
mortonjag 2007-01-10 15:44:37
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 10 2007, 03:42 PM) [snapback]220371[/snapback]

Let's clear this whole 'having it on authority' stuff once and for all. An 'authority' on any given subject is generally not 1) a cabbie or 2) a bloke from the pub called Bob who is divorced with three kids.

It's somebody honest, and genuinely in the know-like Tony Blair, or Pinocchio.
mortonjag 2007-01-10 15:50:57
QUOTE(1insert_player_here @ Jan 10 2007, 03:46 PM) [snapback]220373[/snapback]

Alex Walker seems the dead obvious choice for playing the holding role, yet he hasn't been mentioned.

Is this because you think he's not good enough?

Or that you don't see McInally playing him?

I'm beginning to wonder if McInally actually rates him at all.

The problem seems to be that we are effectively over supplied with competent midfielders, yet we don't have a right or left back, nor a winger (unless you DO start to give youngsters like Black and Russell a chance.
mortonjag 2007-01-10 16:00:49
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 10 2007, 03:53 PM) [snapback]220382[/snapback]

laugh.gif laugh.gif You know him to??

One's not hers though-that's why he's divorced. huh.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-10 16:02:16 the Vatican, with an enclosed message saying...
mortonjag 2007-01-10 16:06:09 Apologies if this has already been said, but I can't wait for the next video of 'Morton on the March'.
mortonjag 2007-01-10 16:16:54
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jan 9 2007, 11:48 PM) [snapback]220102[/snapback]

There is a natural order to things in life. The sun rises in the east, skunks smell, women nag and football is played on a Saturday. Any deviation from these truisms could be fatal.

Unless warned in advance!
mortonjag 2007-01-10 16:19:19
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Jan 10 2007, 04:13 PM) [snapback]220387[/snapback]

Just received this at work- FYI anyone who travels by bus/car:

I must confess that I thought they managed the last lot pretty well as those things go, and congestion was not nearly as bad as I had feared.
mortonjag 2007-01-10 16:37:02 anoint the pencil sharpener with the wee dent on the side, sharpen your pencil with it, and send the pencil on to...
mortonjag 2007-01-10 20:56:36 the intention of having a meal later-Goody was impressed by his ample girth, and said 'I can recommend....
mortonjag 2007-01-10 21:07:47
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 10 2007, 07:20 PM) [snapback]220456[/snapback]

I don't think that is totally true. I reckon Jim thinks of Deano as harder tackling but Walker the better footballer overall. The games he's played Deano I think he thought we needed a midfield disrupter rather than a passer of which we have plenty in the team. Mclaughlin is the best compromise we have of hard man and footballer.

One thing you can say about Keenan is that he is totally committed. I just don't think that if we are going places he is up to it and maybe last Saturday demonstrated that. Come the summer he will be a good signing for one of the second division challengers and if thats the case, I would wish him all the best.

That's an extremely unfair assessment IMO of a boy who's only 21, and who's already been MOTM in three games this season despite having played very few more.

He's rough around the edges, and has a lot to learn, but he's a competent all rounder, and isn't scared to go forward either. Maybe if he had buried that 30 yarder on Saturday your thinking might have been coloured slightly more in his favour when you claim he's 'not up to it' against 'loftier' opposition.

Just noticed Craig Levein has signed Sean Dillon, who frankly wasn't that impressive at the same age.
mortonjag 2007-01-10 22:04:16 'Who the f*ck do you think you're talking to-do you know who I am'? Goody hadn't a clue what he was saying since....
mortonjag 2007-01-10 22:07:25
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Jan 10 2007, 10:00 PM) [snapback]220483[/snapback]

Oh right so because you get in there first everyone else is jumping on the bandwagon. Clown!!

I agree Templeman can play football just not very well that's all although he's been improving immensely of late so that's something. You seem to think that I talk nonesense yet it's you who contradicts yourself in your own posts. Dafty Nr 2!!

My goodness Sir, you sound almost civilised-I take it you're just back from your therapist! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-10 22:11:28 ...had not come though, that would have taken much more than the belated demise of a corpulent skunk, and Goody, grasping the opportunity....
mortonjag 2007-01-11 07:14:48
QUOTE(Deego @ Jan 10 2007, 09:10 PM) [snapback]220472[/snapback]

Different Dillon. rolleyes.gif

Which Dillon are you talking about?
mortonjag 2007-01-11 07:30:09 the evil reincarnative meddling of mediaeval Helen (the melons) Mirren, the witch of the Skunklands who, subsequently sanctified for her depravity, gave her name to.....
mortonjag 2007-01-11 07:56:21
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Jan 10 2007, 07:15 PM) [snapback]220453[/snapback]

Was that before he came out the shower with PAM ohmy.gif

Naw bawheid yer showin' yer age-that wis JR!
mortonjag 2007-01-11 08:53:02
QUOTE(bluehand @ Jan 10 2007, 11:13 PM) [snapback]220504[/snapback]

First post on your site lads and its to say well done on defeating .sorry.sorry! SLAYING my team. smile.gif
I hope you go far this year and at least get past Murderwell.
It looks as though you have your house in order at Morton and had a quiet chuckle on Saturday when i saw you have reverted to blue and white "stripes" rather than hoops!!,this of course is why you won........we kept passing to the wrong team!!... laugh.gif
As my football hero was Eddie Morrison you'll excuse me for being so nice to you all. I had the great honour of meeting Eddie and Alan McGraw after the last time we met in the cup (1997) i will give you respect as not to mention the scoreline that day. I was there with another old Morton player Tommy Halliday (anyone remember him??) a great day all round indeed.
I have always had a soft spot for Morton and in no small way wish you well and hopefully see you all soon in the SPL (hopefully!!)
I have one general enquiry. I believe that Morton F.C. was approached by no less than Gordon Ramsay in 2005 for a take over. Can someone please explain why this never happened? The reason for this is my daughter is doing an assignment on the TV chef. A direct e mail address to him would be fantastic as top marks are awarded for a direct question to the star. Any info would be helpfull.
Anyway, good luck for the rest of the season and your charge in the scottish cup.
No doubt we will meet again.

Bluehand

Decent of you to post-one of my old heroes whom you'll remember well was Joe Mason, who had good times at Kiliie too.
mortonjag 2007-01-11 09:07:43 I've been enjoying all the post match publicity, and was thrilled to see the goals yet again on the 'Telly' last night. I hadn't realised just how good Jimbo's lead up was for the third goal-nobody's said much about that.

Anyway-to the point-Alloa are in the SAME division as us, but all week we've been portrayed not as SPL killers, but effectively as an SPL team, and that gives me the jitters.

They will be bursting a gut for ninety minutes to put one over on the 'new boys on the SPL block'.

I know we're all bristling with optimism right now, but sadly Saturday could prove a dreary grind. Let's hope not.
mortonjag 2007-01-11 12:52:23 a football team based in Pishley.....

Dougie had been thinking about Helen's melons all day, and several times had tried to unlock the cot sides on his bed in an attempt to......
mortonjag 2007-01-11 12:58:35
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 11 2007, 11:52 AM) [snapback]220575[/snapback]

No it wasn't. I didn't watch Dallas but even I know it was Bobby who came out the shower. JR's missus was Sue Ellen.

I got the information from a reliable source. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-11 13:01:29 Trust ma faither tae embarrass me on ma big day.
mortonjag 2007-01-11 13:15:21
QUOTE(theyorkshirepudding @ Jan 11 2007, 11:40 AM) [snapback]220572[/snapback]

Really like Bobby as a player but have to disagree. Markus has right physique to make an impact in the top flight. Not sure Bobby does.

Hope he proves me wrong in a couple of years though!

FFS we're talking soccer mate, not basketball. Tell me how many of the world's most prolific strikers have had a physique like MP.

Mobility, agility, and lightning reflexes, a la Joe Harper are best
mortonjag 2007-01-11 13:48:19
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Jan 11 2007, 01:26 PM) [snapback]220595[/snapback]

....get into her hospital bed with her.
PS---What's the deal with Dougie and pencils, pencil sharpeners and pencil shavings.

(Dougie got a pencil sharpener from JM for Christmas, and this caused an acute relapse into his latent addiction to pencil shavings. While leaving the Priory-having completed treatment- he was mistaken for a long stay patient in the Victoria Geriatric unit, where he's all but lost his marbles)

..get into her hospital bed with her...

Only to realise he was seeing double, and Chick Young was peering down, saying.....
mortonjag 2007-01-11 13:56:21
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ Jan 11 2007, 01:41 PM) [snapback]220605[/snapback]

A young guy is assaulted in Sauchiehall St, Glasgow and taken to hospital where he lay unconscious for 5 days.
When eventually awoke, he looked to his left and saw Clint Eastwood in the bed next to him, he looked to his right and saw John Wayne in that bed.
He started to scream, thinking he was dead, but a nurse comforted him by telling him he was OK and had been admitted to the WESTERN Infirmary.

It was Prince Charles on one side and Philip the Greek on the other:

he'd been admitted to the Royal Psychiatric Unit.
mortonjag 2007-01-11 14:47:50
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 11 2007, 02:24 PM) [snapback]220616[/snapback]

Unless I have miscounted, the game against Stirling will be Jim McInally's 100th competitive match (as opposed to friendlies) in charge of the club. His first game was against Berwick at Cappielow in October 2004 which we won 2-0. Team that day was:

------------------McGurn--------------------

Collins---Greacen---McCluskey---McCulloch

Millar---J Maisano---M Maisano----McAllister

---------Williams-----Walker J---------------

No disputing them that the present team is his with only 4 players left from that team and one of those not a regular starter.

In terms of improvement his results have been
--------------------Total-----------------Home--------------------Away
--------------P--W--D--L--F--A-------P--W--D--L---F--A------P--W--D--L---F--A
2004/5
League----26-12--7--7-40-26----14-10-2--2--28-8-----12--2---5--5--12-18
Cups--------3--2--0--1--11--4------1--1--0--0---3--1-------2--1---0--1---8--3
2005/6
League----36-21--7--8-58-33----18-13-2--3--36-16-----18--8---5--5--22-17
Cups--------6--4--0--2--11--7------1--1--0--0---3--2-------5--3---0--2---8--5
2006/7
League----20-15--3--2-42-15----10--7-3--0--18-4-----10--8---0--2--24-11
Cups--------7--5--0--2--16--11-----3--3--0--0---9--5-------4--2---0--2---7--6
Overall
League---82-48--17--17-140-74--42-30-7--5--18-4---40-18--10--12--58-46
Cups------16--11--0--5--38--22----5--5--0--0---15--8---11--6---0--5---23--14

A few interesting things in there. We have only lost three times at Cappielow since the start of last season and, in fact only once in the last 15 months.
Our away form cost us promotion in the last two seasons. This season it is much improved.
The cups have not been very kind to us in that we have had 16 ties over the last three seasons and only 5 of those at Cappielow. We have won all our home cup ties under McInally.

I think only the most hardened Mcinally critic can argue that there has not been steady improvement under him and I personally think the evidence is that we have one of the best young managers in Scotland.

Lies, damned lies, and statistics again Tonsilitis.

I know I'll get pelters for this, but bring it on.

Before I start, I agree with much of what you say.

Where I take issue is that those statistics are nothing but a manifestation of our vastly superior resources.

As far as the playing staff are concerned, Jim has gathered together an abundance of young talent, bursting to prove itself, and his discipline and training regime seems beyond reproach.

Now to my points-(I know that most will cite the Kilmarnock game to 'rubbish' me)-which are that we lack a calming and experienced influence in midfield, and that players are still inexplicably played out of their natural roles.

I have stated that I welcome the signing of Paul Mathers-the defence has been much more settled since he came, yet in terms of pure shot stopping, David McGurn may be his superior. That is what I'm on about.

I also notice that Jimbo has been an ever present for over two years, and IMO isn't much better stuck out on the left than he was then (before defences had clocked his weakness in that position).

Weatherson plays well most of the time, but is a goalscorer. McGregor is painfully slow against a speedy winger, yet he's a creative footballer-I could go on.

I believe Jim has improved, but I firmly believe that an experienced manager on his 100th competitive game would at least be facing 1st division opposition by now.
mortonjag 2007-01-11 14:52:50 in a whispered tone, a sexual favour, in return for.....
mortonjag 2007-01-11 15:00:42 when he was into hamsters, but Dougie smiled wearily and said....
mortonjag 2007-01-11 15:06:19
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Jan 11 2007, 02:06 PM) [snapback]220611[/snapback]

Paddy the Dubliners' pregnant sister was in a terrible car accident and went into a deep coma.

After being in the coma for nearly six months, she wakes up and sees
that she is no longer pregnant; frantically, she asks the doctor about
her baby.
The doctor replies, "Miss you had twins!..... A boy and a girl.

The babies are fine now however they were poorly at birth and had to be
christened immediately - your brother came in and named them.

The woman thinks to herself, "Oh suffering Jesus no, not me
brother...he's a fecking, clueless, gobs***e!" Expecting the worst,she
asks the doctor, "Well, what's my daughter's name?"

"Denise," says the doctor.

The new mother is somewhat relieved

"Wow,that's a beautiful name, I guess I was wrong about my brother....I like Denise." Then she asks, "What's the boy's name?"
"Denephew"

Paddy's Donkey can't get under a low bridge. Mick says 'Dig out a trough for its feet.'Don't be daft', says Paddy, 'it's the ears that are too long'.
mortonjag 2007-01-11 15:08:22
QUOTE(RankinBorn75 @ Jan 11 2007, 02:55 PM) [snapback]220623[/snapback]

Thinking of bringing her indoors to a game to go to the hospitality. Not wanting to tempt fate but. what game does everyone think we will win the championship in, or the first home game after if you think we wrap up the title away from home.

IT'S A BIT OF FUN !! biggrin.gif

No harm in fun RB but I've seen this all before. Let's get Alloa out of the road. One game at a time.
mortonjag 2007-01-11 15:11:49 I can tell you where to find MILLIONS of them-Chick looking puzzled scratched another huge score into his cretinous pate, and gawking like a wean before his first Santa said....
mortonjag 2007-01-11 15:18:19
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 11 2007, 03:10 PM) [snapback]220644[/snapback]

They are not statistics skewed at defending or attacking McInally. They are just the team's record since he took over and I would have thought that even you have to concede that there is improvement. We only won 2 away games under him in his first season. We won 8 from 18 last year and this year we have only played 10 away games and we have won the same number as we did in the whole of last year.

Whether we have greater resources or not, the improvement is there for all to see and I think its a little disingenuous not to acknowledge that.

And what's your point-that bad is getting better, or that good is getting great?

FFS man, if there hadn't been SOME improvement DDFR would have lost patience by now. If that's all you're on about, I totally agree.
mortonjag 2007-01-11 15:24:02
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 11 2007, 03:22 PM) [snapback]220657[/snapback]

Beckham has signed for LA Galaxy in a $250 million deal, over 5 years.

No doubt plastic tits told him to-just her scene.
mortonjag 2007-01-11 15:31:33
QUOTE(Laura_w @ Jan 11 2007, 03:25 PM) [snapback]220662[/snapback]

was on the falkirk forum there and heard some people saying that morton played falkirk in a closed door friendly on monday score was 1-0 to falkirk jus wondered if anyone else knew about this, who was playing on the day etc?

Amazing what some people will do to bum themselves up-'Guess who WE just beat on Monday-MORTON-you know the team that just gubbed Killie! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-11 15:33:48
QUOTE(cmdc @ Jan 11 2007, 03:16 PM) [snapback]220652[/snapback]

Didn't Gretna have even more resources last season and yet were only a point or so better off than we are now? And they didn't play an SPL team off the park in the process!

Surely the gap in resources IS shown in that we are 14 points clear of third place. It just so happens that Stirling have gone on a great run in between.

It just so happens that Stirling have a very astute manager.
mortonjag 2007-01-11 16:10:17
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 11 2007, 04:02 PM) [snapback]220679[/snapback]

Just A Thought About This Saturday, What are yours?

I think that Saturday will be after friday and (longshot here) before sunday.

smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-11 16:12:49
QUOTE(Laura_w @ Jan 11 2007, 03:41 PM) [snapback]220670[/snapback]

by the way people are talking it seemed like a reserve match as mcmanus was the one who scored for falkirk the guy is always on the bench and very rarely gets a 1st team game think it was a chance for falkirk to field some trialists to see how good they are by the looks of it.

The minute I read your post I couldn't see any logic in a closed door match after Saturday, but a reserve match at !-0 was a pretty good result for us I'd say.
mortonjag 2007-01-11 16:18:38
QUOTE(Pat SharpTon @ Jan 11 2007, 04:11 PM) [snapback]220688[/snapback]

Mr Doogie Rae was quite chuffed with us too:

http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/readstory.php?id=8018

'He is young-YES'=I've had to make allowances for his inexperience.

'but he's learning all the time'=he must have made a fair few mistakes


'and isn't afraid to ask for advice'=he admits he doesn't know what he's doing.

wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-11 17:06:45
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 11 2007, 04:53 PM) [snapback]220706[/snapback]

Yes -you could see that the way that old fox Jeffries outsmarted us tactically biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

You and the previous poster are just being silly now. Douglas Rae, in his comments is actually endorsing the very points that I and others have been making. Saturday was a 'one off'. The boys were fired up by the event and the crowd, not because Jim had suddenly watched some new DVD on motivation and tactics. He IS learning, and as Chrissiboi said elsewhere, who knows, he may be a helluva lot better by this time next year.
mortonjag 2007-01-11 17:13:13 to NESTLE between the breasts of some girl half my age who's so glaicet she's impressed that I'm on the telly, and I'm not complaining-would you.....
mortonjag 2007-01-11 20:09:41
QUOTE(stuart @ Jan 11 2007, 07:37 PM) [snapback]220726[/snapback]

Who was awful at first and all the Stirling fans wanted sacked, but, the board showed a little patience and gave him time to build his own side and bed into his job.

Your arguement weakens all the time...

You can only compare like with like-Moore NEVER had anything like McInally's resources.

If YOUR argument is simply that he improved with time and that the board was patient, I fail to see how anything I've said above is weakened by your ARGUMENT. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-11 20:14:56
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jan 11 2007, 07:47 PM) [snapback]220732[/snapback]

same as Dick Campbell , who Jags fans wanted sacked before he took them to 2nd top of the league........... and err, has taken them back down the league. blink.gif

My point being , as always ,fitba' forum fans are fickle feckers.

Nothing like Dick Campbell-I'm not saying he's the best manager in Scottish football or anything like it, but he went to Jags with a proven record and got them promoted when we were strong second favourites. Furthermore they are not exactly holding up the first division.
mortonjag 2007-01-11 20:27:59
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jan 11 2007, 07:55 PM) [snapback]220733[/snapback]

I was a bit of a sceptic at 1st about McInally although as I'm ever the optimist I was prepared to give him time.

Some of his decisions baffled me - constantly playing two wide men to partner Temps.
Persevering with Finlayson when he couldn't cross a ball to save himself.
Letting Temps go to Brechin.
etc

However this season I think Jim has been almost faultless. His substitutions have been inspired at times.

Changing the game against St Midden when it looked a case of how many.
Turning games round from nowhere against Peterhead and Raith when we were sinking fast.
AND increadibly after half the season we are still undefeated against Ayr and Peterhead!!!

I would say he is sometimes a little reluctant to change the starting line up but as he has had a lot of success this season I guess that would be nit picking in the extreme.

I would say I am very happy with McInally in charge now. Saturday demostrated the potential this team has with the oldest outfield player... 27 (Temps)? we are well on our way to a prosperous 5+ seasons with the same group of great players. With the signing of Linn he shows no signs of changing his 'Wenger' like signing policy.

Also - Harding and Greacan could end up being Morton's best ever central defence. Could perhaps play together for another 10 years.

I think McInally has proved beyond doubt that when a talented young squad is firing on all cylinders, there's no beating them-full credit to him and them for the Kilmarnock performance.

I disagree entirely, however with your opinion about his tactical ability, and team selections. I still believe he loses out consistently by being single minded about who should play where, that he is unwilling to experiment enough, and that his tactics are simply-'As long as the boys keep working hard we'll get a result'.

Even as this young side is beginning to gel, it's only a few weeks since our dire need for an 'old head' in the middle of the park was staring us in the face.

I'm not willing to dish out praise or criticism inappropriately-if it's Jim who gets the credit when we produce a result like last Saturday's, then it's Jim who takes the blame when we don't. Let's hope the apparent improvement continues.
mortonjag 2007-01-11 20:36:45 with unprecedented venom-'F*cking Foxbar-it's Dykebar I'll send him to when I get my hands on the wee creep-Arthur's just told me....
mortonjag 2007-01-12 06:25:40 Chick was confused---Dougie was obviously missing his marbles more than his beloved Morton.

The baldy skunk opened his 25 year old BBC 2 computer and after using the jump leads he'd stolen from his neighbour's Bentley, ran a search on.. Morton..Rae.. Montford..Pencils.. Sweeties.

After some 63 crashes and with his head an excoriated bleeding mess, the smarmy wee jaw dropped, as he turned an even paler shade of skunk. The message read....
mortonjag 2007-01-12 06:37:41 Money isn't everything-let's face it-who would want to traipse after that plastic titted 'female' version of Michael Jackson, hanging on her every word, obeying her every command, and smiling meekly as she switches on the electronic tagging device every time you leave the house?

Mind you, you could be miserable in opulent comfort, and there's always a wee fly wank. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-12 06:41:46
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ Jan 11 2007, 09:34 PM) [snapback]220756[/snapback]

For what its worth i think he - Marcus - is a quality player with a big future ahead of him if he puts the hard work in.

THe same goes for Oor Bobby!

JB.

Is he Oor Wullie's brother perchance? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-12 06:44:48
QUOTE(Wanafff @ Jan 11 2007, 10:38 PM) [snapback]220766[/snapback]

Let this thread die.

We have all stated our opinion. And the majority, of true Morton fans know how much we are in gratitude to the Chairman. There are some who have a different opinion, which they are entitled to. The majority of true Morton fans don't want to see such drivel by the minority on such a thread, when the majority of true Morton fans are focusing on the positive, enjoying being a Morton fan and enjoying all that is good with the club. So let this thread die. All we are doping is giving oxygen to people who can only be negative, only look for faults and will always find something to moan about.

The rest of us lets focus on supporting out fantastic club, and getting right behind an entertaining, young footballing side that are a credit to themselves and hope they continue this purple patch all the way to May. Mon the Ton.

I will not post nor read this thread again and hopefully we can put it to bed.

Why don't you just destroy it with a bolt of lightning almighty one? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-12 06:54:47
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jan 11 2007, 10:01 PM) [snapback]220759[/snapback]

What exactly are you trying to say?

(a) JM is an inexperienced manager - we know that
(cool.gif We should have signed an experienced manager - we didn't

OK, that's history.

Going by your insightful posts, you're obviously an experienced manager yourself. What should we do right now?

Perhaps hire an experienced manager? Paul Le Guen perhaps?

I take it you posted that before you read TaunTon's comments.

I'm not TRYING to say anything-I've SAID something, and it's up to you to interpret that as you choose.

I'm much more comfortable with Jim at the moment than I was two months ago-he may very well be looking at different aspects of his ethos, and the signing of Mathers and DDFR's comments in the 'Tilly' are encouraging.

Nothing, however, can re-write history, and the statistics merely show that in terms of our goal,-- promotion, he has to date failed us.
mortonjag 2007-01-12 07:03:48
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 11 2007, 10:39 PM) [snapback]220767[/snapback]

My point is, if you ask me, the statistics prove the fact that Jim McInally has got a lot more right than he has wrong and, as far as I can see, the longer he has been in charge, the more he is getting it right.

If you want specifics:

1) McInally for the most part, assembled the current squad
2) We have lost one game at Cappielow in 15 months
3) We have never lost a cup tie at Cappielow under McInally
4) We have won 7 out of our last 8 games, including 6 wins on the bounce

No team can win all the time. Last season we would have won the league but for the Gretna factor and their seven figure resources, if you want to talk resources. You continuously criticise the manager despite the fact he has achieved the best run of results so far this season since our record breaking season in 1963/64. Some of us might not agree that Peter Weatherson is being played out of position. Indeed the player does'nt.

My view is that McInally knows more about football than you do and he's proving it!


Your last comment is a bit superfluous-he ought to know a damned sight more about football than me given his CV.

That doesn't mean that I'm incapable of assessing his performance relative to other managers.

I stand by my belief that he was the wrong choice in terms of our need to be promoted two seasons ago. Two painful and disappointing seasons later we appear to be seeing some light at the end of the tunnel.

If the improvement continues, and we stop seeing repeats of the recent debacles at Alloa and Stirling, I will be the first to acknowledge it and give praise where it's due, but as I fully expected, the Kilmarnock result has put many on an artificial high.
mortonjag 2007-01-12 07:54:50
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jan 11 2007, 10:50 PM) [snapback]220773[/snapback]

McInally experimented in one game this season when he changed it at Stirling and we got beat. If it aint broke, don't fix it.

Please just explain who is playing out of position? I can't think of anyone who is not the best man for the job in that position.

You can argue that Davie McGregor aint a left back - but he's the best left back we have.
Similarly McAllister aint naturally left footed but again - he's the best player to fill that role.

I think any criticism of McInally this season is in extremely poor taste and obviously you have a problem with the man.

You keep bringing up this issue of an 'old head' and players out of position but we are winning every week so we're obviously doing something right.

O.K. - my opinions-

Weatherson is a goalscorer who can play well in a deeper role, but he is NOT a right back, and the negative side is that when he does make errors he leaves us very vulnerable. I read an article ages ago in his local 'Geordie' paper where he admitted he was only playing there to get a game-that despite his claims up here that he's 'better' in that position.

McGregor is capable of creative football so long as he's got time to think, but a tricky winger leaves this right footed player stranded time after time-he is NEVER a left back.

Finlayson was a revelation for Stranraer in an attacking right central midfield role. Not only was he totally wasted wide right for much of last season, but our super abundance of midfield talent versus our thinness on the ground elsewhere means he doesn't get a game. I believe he could make an excellent attacking right back.

McAlister is an excellent prospect. Other managers notice it, yet the potential end product from this ever present will never be there until he is moved to right midfield.

Russell, one of our few left footed players has yet to be really tried out. Again the problem is that in relative terms we are too well off in midfield, but JM refuses to try Jimbo anywhere else. I'm sure Alex Walker and Dean Keenan, (who played a stormer at left back against Beath) would agree with my 'midfielder' comments.

McGowan scored his first goal in over two months on Saturday. He, in my opinion, is the best example of what I mean about Jim being unwilling to experiment, or change things around---I agree with you that playing Finlayson up front alongside him at Stirling was bizarre-more a loss of reason than an experiment- as I believe Templeman, Lilley AND Weatherson were all available, yet 'Gowser' has still to grace the bench at kick off..

To me those are some of the more obvious, though by no means all the anomalies. I do have a problem with JM in that respect, but I repeat I have no personal issue with the man who is only doing his best. To say that ANY criticism of him is in poor taste though, is arrant nonsense-he is there to be judged on his performance.

Finally we are NOT winning every week. We've come on to an excellent run, and long may it continue, but if you were correct we'd have maximum points.

I believe that an experienced 'old head' has been so obviously missing in many games-not just games we've lost or drawn. We have abundant talent, but our lads are too often guilty of losing their way at the wrong time, and the playoffs were a sickening example of that. Mathers has already made a big difference in steadying the defence, despite the fact that technically he's possibly no better than David McGurn.

I don't usually do ultra long posts and I apologise for that, but I've tried to honestly explain myself and answer the questions you put.

I don't expect you and many others to see things as I do, but can I ask you to respect what are only my opinions on an open interactive forum, instead of, as others also do, continually claiming I've 'got it in for' Jim.
mortonjag 2007-01-12 09:01:32
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jan 12 2007, 08:54 AM) [snapback]220815[/snapback]

Five postings and not one negative one from Mortonjag...now that has to be some sort of a record!!!

Any muppet can join the happy clappy club-we don't need self appointed cheerleaders.

It just so happens, however, that I entirely agree with the poster.

SO sorry to disappoint you. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-12 10:20:09
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jan 12 2007, 09:13 AM) [snapback]220818[/snapback]

Amazing what some people will do to bum themselves up-'Guess who WE just beat on Monday-MORTON-you know the team that just gubbed Killie!

Yet another "negative" from Mortonjag.....what is the old saying "look before you leap or think before you speak."

Was it not probable that Morton would not arraange a 1st team match immediately after a hard Cup-tie?????

Are you takin' the piss, or did you not see the first post was tongue in cheek! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-12 10:26:08
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ Jan 12 2007, 09:17 AM) [snapback]220819[/snapback]

Just as "any muppet" can be negative and abusive.
Don't see anyone as being a "self appointed cheerleader" but as supporters who, by definition, should hold up, sustain or assist.

Correct, and by definition can also be reduced to nothing if overstressed for too long by the superstructure. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-12 10:38:19
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 12 2007, 09:38 AM) [snapback]220825[/snapback]

yer bard!! Back at Cappielow, Mark Farrell was attempting to patch up the park after Jade Goody's stunt when Arthur Montford said to him.....
Edit to say, youre on early Mr Jag. Mrs kick you out of bed or something??

Just getting old and don't need much sleep Mr Weegie!

...said to him, 'Mark, you haven't seen or heard from Douglas have you. I haven't seen the wee Jelly Baby for ages and I want to bite his...
mortonjag 2007-01-12 10:47:08
QUOTE(NorgieTon @ Jan 12 2007, 10:37 AM) [snapback]220840[/snapback]

Ianton you and your ilk are a bunch of pr--ks.
Douglas Rae has done a hell of a lot for the Ton
and if he wants to introduce new players, more power to his arm, Its you and your bitching that is the embarassment.
Just enjoy.

NorgieTon tongue.gif

Nobody on this thread-not even Ianton has denied that DDFR has done a great deal for the club.

That, IMO, does NOT entitle him to make a complete arse of himself in front of 3000 Killie supporters.

We've got used to his eccentricities, and most of the time just laugh along, but on Saturday, he embarrassed Bobby Linn, and many home supporters, and as I said earlier, the Killie lot must have been saying 'What the f*ck is THAT?'
mortonjag 2007-01-12 11:00:00 Mark, you deserve much more credit than you get. Thanks for your skill and efforts throughout the season, and for keeping us updated in a way that puts others to shame.
mortonjag 2007-01-12 11:09:49
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Jan 12 2007, 11:00 AM) [snapback]220853[/snapback]

Who cares if he is sometimes a bit cringeworthy! Its just a little bit different from the norm and i for one find it quite entertaining. I couldn't care less if Killie fans were offended by it, coz we horsed them, so they can shut their pieholes. Who says there is a set way to introduce a new player (i.e. over the tannoy like everyone else), DDFR can feggin parachute him in from a blimp for all i care, as long as we keep winning. Lighten up a little for gods sake.

As I said DT most of us have got used to DDFR-I actually find the old buffoon quite a laugh-he'd have been an excellent foil for Eric Morecambe, but what angers me is the Holier than thou brigade who come on here every time somebody has a wee jab at him--Thank you so grovellingly, arselickingly much Mr (you should have been knighted before Murray) Rae, and rest assured we will hang on your every word 'til thy kingdom come-oh, and thy will be done etc.

Ianton made a valid comment-why can people not disagree in a civilised and semi-intelligent manner?
mortonjag 2007-01-12 11:13:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 12 2007, 11:03 AM) [snapback]220855[/snapback]

So who are the "others" that should be ashamed ? Try and stay positive now. biggrin.gif

wink.gif erm..other.. erm groundsmen-erm..yes, that's it-other groundsmen-yes DEFINITELY other groundsmen! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-12 11:16:08
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 12 2007, 10:48 AM) [snapback]220848[/snapback]

David Beckham insists his move to LA Galaxy is not financially driven.
The 31-year-old will earn a reported £128m over five years after agreeing to leave Real Madrid for the Major League Soccer side at the end of the season.

128,000,000 over 5 years is divided by 5 is £25,600,000 per year

25,600,000 per year divided by 365 is £70,136.98 per day

£70,136.98 per day divided by 24 gives an hourly rate of £2,922.37

£2,922.37 per hour divided by 60 gives a rate of £48.70 per minute

£48.70 per minute divided by 60 gives a rate of £0.81 per second

so working this out if its taken you 20 seconds to read this article David Beckham would have earnt £16.23, i for one am glad to see that money is not the motivating factor behind this transfer.

I for one am not glad when I do see the motivating factor-long may she melt silicone under the LA heat. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-12 11:19:12 commode-oh and why has Crawford not been using the disabled toilet as....
mortonjag 2007-01-12 11:27:10
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 12 2007, 11:20 AM) [snapback]220862[/snapback]

Best thing about all this is the fact that, even at his peak, Beckham was never that great a player.

I admire your penchant for posting nonsense in such a concise way that it's rarely challenged! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-12 11:51:17
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 12 2007, 11:44 AM) [snapback]220870[/snapback]

Concise? Yes. Rarely challenged? You know better. Nonsense? Nonsense.

Well BH your throw away line 'not that great anyway' is usually taken to mean pretty awful, and frankly, though he was never a Pele, Eusebio, or Puskas-GREAT players from the past, he WAS 'no too bad' at times.
mortonjag 2007-01-12 11:54:00
QUOTE(Sammario @ Jan 12 2007, 11:32 AM) [snapback]220866[/snapback]

There's a bit of me that doesnt want to say this but, spot on MJ.

Iantons only mistake is the timing of his statement. There are a LOT of people who dont like Dougie's pre match 'pep talks'. Listen to the reaction from the crowd, it's got progressively qiueter, there has been a large degree of apathy amongst the support & Dougie's patter doesn't help.

On another point. Just because he bought over the club doesnt automatically make it a vehicle for his ego. There are several clubs all over the UK who have been rescued at the 11th hour, the biggest one being Leeds Utd by a larger than life charecter in Ken Bates, a man who rightly or wrongly has a level of celebrity within Football but who doesn't hog the limelight. Granted Leeds are toiling in the championship, but he leaves it to Wise & Poyet, largeley because I am sure he knows football fans see right through that stuff.

Just look at Delia Smith. She probably got the idea from Dougie.

I doubt if she'd have got anything else from the old Puritan! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-12 11:56:33
QUOTE(Sammario @ Jan 12 2007, 11:54 AM) [snapback]220875[/snapback]

Aah. I was not aware of that. Limited knowledge and all that.....
Not about his mrs. the bit about the salary cap. His Mrs DOES take it up the 'tradesmans' as you say. her cheeks are too far apart!

Her cheques ain't!
mortonjag 2007-01-12 11:59:43
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 12 2007, 11:56 AM) [snapback]220877[/snapback]

Sorry Jag, if that was the case I would have simply stated that Beckham was s***e.

TiD, stop yer pish. You're blatantly up for a menage with Becks and Posh.

Incidentally, does anyone else think that Posh looks like the lead character from A Nightmare Before Christmas?

Already described by me as a 'female' Michael Jackson-too much money and no real self esteem-always chasing moonbeams-am I jealous?-of rich folk-aye-of her-nonamundo. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-12 12:18:27
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Jan 12 2007, 12:03 PM) [snapback]220880[/snapback]

I dont know what the big problem is, if DDR wants to come on the park with the mic then let him, if its cringe worthy then so it be, i just dont see why someone has to post it on the board when there are thousands at the game seeing and hearing the same thing.

At the end of the day its HIS club. If he wants to do whatever he likes with the club and this includes having a wee blether on the mic then why not. It hasnt bothered me, friends or other fans around us, actually gives us a wee chuckle at times.

Gone yersel Dougie smile.gif

Seconded-G'on yersel' Dougie, Sing God Save the Queen in Ragtime as you strip off and tie a blue and white tassel round your own-it's YOUR club, and you can do just what you like! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-12 14:08:01
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Jan 12 2007, 01:56 PM) [snapback]220920[/snapback]

dry.gif Typical from MJ
Let me tell you that i am in NO ONE'S BRIGADE, well apart from 51 smile.gif .

As folk have said on other threads, if ye dont like anything towards what happens down Cappielow Way then PHONE or EMAIL the CLUB, myself, i am only interested on what happens on the park and so far its been mostly good apart from a couple of ups and downs.
Mon the Ton
and DDR's Brigade rolleyes.gif

Read and understood Crawford-that's you got the Jag again tonight. cool.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-12 14:10:09 that gigantic 9 hole golf couse laden tit refusing to flush away-and talking of tits....
mortonjag 2007-01-12 14:37:01
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 12 2007, 02:32 PM) [snapback]220937[/snapback]

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Cocktoberfest ?

That urethral orifice is magnificent!
mortonjag 2007-01-12 16:23:07
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 12 2007, 02:41 PM) [snapback]220942[/snapback]

My last comment superflous? It really only reflects the fact that you go on at length about McInally's ineptitude which broadly seems to centre of your perception of players being played out of position. It really only begs the question that in football matters who knows best - you or Jim? In my view, Jim McInally's decisions are clearly working as we are top of the league by six points and still in the Scottish cup at the expense of Kilmarnock. Your thoughts are as an amateur observer of the game of some years, just like me.

That certainly entitles you to your views, but if I choose to prefer McInally's judgements over yours, backed up as they are by statistics, then that is my choice to make.

It just seems to me that Jim can't win in relation to the 'painful and disappointing seasons past' In the first, part season, he inherited a dispirited and disjointed team populated by a number of players at the root of the dressing room unrest. When he arrived we were in 5th place in the league, 7 points behind the leaders. We missed promotion by 1 point that year.

The next year we had the Gretna factor and, in your words, their resources. We still finished second, 13 points ahead of third place but lost the play off lottery. No manager can legislate for one off results - ask Jim Jeffries or Gordon Strachan. I think its is grossly unfair to lay all that at Jims door.

This season we appear to be cruising the league but we all want to see the mathematical certainty of promotion and so I'm saying nothing as yet.

We therefore need to agree to disagree. I think Jim McInally is an excellent manager for Morton who will improve with time. You don't, so lets just respect each other's right to have an opinion.

Your almost puerile obsession with statistics amuses me Tonsilitis-you shouldn't bring your work into the playground!

Of course I don't want to fight with you over our equally valid opinions but they are just that.

Statistics show beyond dispute that for two seasons running Morton confounded the bookies by failing to gain promotion-those Sir are the guys who make a living from statistics, so what went wrong?

DDFR has just openly stated that JM is young (making allowances), has learned a lot (admitting many mistakes or deficiencies), and is willing to ask questions (admitting he is ignorant of facts).

It seems to me that you want it both ways, and you omit that the playoffs were decided over two matches, both against a side which was palpably less talented than ours, and which subsequently succumbed to Thistle.

Frankly I have little interest in statistics unless they substantiate logic and reality-old Henry Ford wasn't daft you know.

Because I'm, as you put it, an amateur observer doesn't invalidate my opinion. If I see a patient coming out of an operating theatre chalk white, with a gaping surgical wound, I don't need to be a doctor to see there's something far wrong, even though I am ignorant of the intricacies of surgery, and that's what I meant about the superfluity of your comment-I hope I don't need to elaborate.

Finally, I do not think JM has been an excellent manager for Morton, but given that I have stated earlier that I hope we may be seeing light at the end of a long tunnel, your final comment is yet again inaccurate.
mortonjag 2007-01-12 16:29:36 and an inordinately loud and odorous fart, which seemed.....
mortonjag 2007-01-13 06:28:57
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 12 2007, 06:38 PM) [snapback]221027[/snapback]

Your almost puerile obsession with statistics amuses me Tonsilitis-you shouldn't bring your work into the playground!

Ultimately success or failure has to be measured. Whilst accepting there are statistics and damned lies, why is it alright for you to condemn Jim based on subjective measures such as such and such should be playing here there or everywhere and ignore the objective ones measuring what has been achieved, most of which are in his favour.

Now you can argue that the statistics are that we missed promotion for two years and my argument is that you cannot just take that bald statement as condemning McInally. You have to look a little deeper. So, you seem to be obsessed with the simple statistic that we did not get promoted in 2004/5 or 2005/6 and that must be pinned on some one

I don't like the fact that we lost the play offs last year but these were one off cup ties, a totally unreasonable way to decide promotion. Equally, do you deny that our performance last years was good enough to have won the league in almost any year but for the Gretna factor/the playoffs?
Do you deny that the year before, Jim had someone else's team to sort?

I am looking at the measures of performance, and, as far as I can see, now they are mostly good.

You seem to be coming up with a subjective judgement that in your opinion certain players would play better in other positions and that we have not signed an 'old head' in midfield, this latter notwithstanding the fact that you say we have too many midfielders and not enough defenders. We need fullbacks but we have the best defensive record in Britain with what we have. We'll need changes for the first division and yet we comfortably see off first division and SPl oppositon when we meet

Finally, I am now retiring from this thread as when you are around, it is impossible to have the last word. That always belongs to you. Well be my guest.

Still in the playground I see, oh well, please yourself!
mortonjag 2007-01-13 06:36:49 the funeral was a 'cracking' success, and those who were skint just 'shot up' or swigged a couple of extra demi-tasses of 'meth', while.......
mortonjag 2007-01-13 06:43:01
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 12 2007, 09:52 PM) [snapback]221089[/snapback]

I wouldn't change a team who KO'd an SPL side in the cup , even if it was Ronaldinho we signed instead of Linn , would be an injustice to the boys who doen the business. Linn will get his chance.

Call me a pedantic but I hate when punters ''and journalists'' use terms like

'' Linn will start the match on the bench''.

If he is on the bench then he doesnt start the effin match does he ? Clowns.

If you are really pedantic, only one person 'starts' the match-the 'ref'.
mortonjag 2007-01-13 06:48:24 Keenan's the best scrapper, and most defensive: Kev's the most flexible and quickest: Walkers the best footballer, but can't get a place as long as Millar and Stevenson are playing well.
mortonjag 2007-01-13 06:54:27 He was never one of the chosen ones-good luck to a good wee footballer.
mortonjag 2007-01-13 06:59:14
QUOTE(Magic Mathie @ Jan 13 2007, 02:23 AM) [snapback]221127[/snapback]

I'd say Alexander's comments last year were worse (when he publicly critisized McInally). But on the whole you are right - JJ is a dour faced cnut.

Alexander's a self satisfied prat who huffs and has a go at others-a proper c*nt.

JJ's only been consistent, and was raging at his own team. Prams and dummies for the weans who need a wee pat on the heid from Mr Grumpy! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-13 07:06:29
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 13 2007, 12:25 AM) [snapback]221120[/snapback]

Its not negative , its a point of view . We are all intitled to our opinions .
It would be pretty sad if we all dribbled the same crap .
Is anybody denying that we should be playing in a higher division or that this year the league contains clubs who are in the doldrums or wee diddy teams .
So why are you so obtuse to any thinking that deviates from your own mantra .

F*CK OFF-get a life ya negative trouble makin' c*nt-you really do my f*ckin' heid in at times wi' the s***e ye post on here.

Sorry chrissiboi-but that's an example of the intelligent and apparently POSITIVE posts we often get, and they go unquestioned! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-13 07:09:48
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 12 2007, 06:45 PM) [snapback]221029[/snapback]

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

You are SO witty-you've obviously got a short memory-what about Wardlaw, Weaver, and Strain, just to name three who spring to mind. Take NOTHING for granted.
mortonjag 2007-01-13 07:17:15
QUOTE(Magic Mathie @ Jan 13 2007, 02:57 AM) [snapback]221136[/snapback]

What the fcuk do we care what the Killie fans think. DDR saved Morton, he can do what he wants.

'How do you plead'?

'Guilty', your Lordship, but honestly it's my first rape, and I DID save the Ton'.

'You saved what'?

'It's a football club in Greenock your Lordship'

'Ah, 'THE Ton'---case dismissed. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-13 07:21:59 Testiculating-I like that one-very apt!
mortonjag 2007-01-13 08:20:30
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 13 2007, 07:42 AM) [snapback]221157[/snapback]

Hulloe ,

There's usually good advice on technical matters on here and I know similar questions to those I have were asked before.

Two problems. One big one , one little one.

Big Problem.
I have been travelling for the past 6 weeks. I have an Olympus camera which uses XD picture cards. I have a type H , 1GB card which I had used for the first month. all of a sudden when I was browsing my pictures I got a ''card error'' message. An ''expert'' traveller checked the card with a card reader plugged into his laptop , he said ''bugger me what kind of card you got here , it has over 1 billion photo's on it'' , well , actually I had taken 600 photos and a few videos. He said everything is there somewhere but the card is corrupted.

Question is , how do I fix it ?

and
I obviously got a new card and kept the dodgy one safe. after uploaded some photos from new card to my blog I noticed the videos are no longer on my new card. how do I get those back ? can I ?

Thanks in advance for any sensible advice. Ridicule will not be taken lightly.

I don't know that much, but I'm certain you can transfer the files back to the card using standard software-it's only a file/folder transfer.

If the original card is corrupted, you'll still be able to retrieve as long as the individual files are intact, but unfortunately I can't tell you how to do that.
mortonjag 2007-01-13 08:26:38
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jan 13 2007, 07:38 AM) [snapback]221156[/snapback]

Are you really so slow on the uptake? This is on the BBC website - the organisation you continually slate for being unionist. You are one of unionisms greatest assets. If they get you up on election night I reckon you could singlehandledly help to lose them the next election. You need to get over your victim mentality.
If you take the football angle out of this, and as an ex-inmate of Irvine, this seems like a fight between two unpleasant neds that has unfortunately got out of hand.

Indeed-the catalyst was probably insignificant-well excepting that it gave Colkitto another dose of paranoia! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-13 08:33:49 Do they not still have buses on the Glasgow Greenock route-they're maybe not as comfy as the choo choos but they tend to run to schedule.
mortonjag 2007-01-13 08:44:43
QUOTE(alexp @ Jan 13 2007, 02:45 AM) [snapback]221134[/snapback]

They've done it again theres no longer a disadvantage for a team in an injury crisis, the SFL will just reschedule all your matches, except if your forfar wink.gif

The Peterhead Forfar game got them running scared-now all you need is a tame club doctor if you fancy a wee rest-mind you what's going to happen when they eventually toughen up, and the side denied a postponement WINS!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-13 09:22:12
QUOTE(Magic Mathie @ Jan 13 2007, 08:42 AM) [snapback]221162[/snapback]

You've lost it. That's if you ever had it.

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mortonjag 2007-01-13 09:29:39
QUOTE(Sammario @ Jan 13 2007, 08:53 AM) [snapback]221166[/snapback]

What boo boys? nobody boos Dougie for focks sake!!

I admit Ken Bates was stretching the point a little as he clearly does like the sound of his own voice, but thats usually when he's on Sky Sports.

I think I may be getting misconstrued here, I dont begrudge Dougie his moments, but think back to the amount of people who've roasted his "programme" "notes". There have also been several other threads over time that have saw folk having a dig at his wee speeches. It just seems this time folk are getting on Iantons back because he said it after the cup win. I wonder how many of these people would have agreed if we'd have been humped off Killie.

Exactly-it's the wee wean mentality-we're f*ckin' wonderful, and everything about us must be perfect.

People pay two quid for that programme-it's quite a nice wee production, and Arthur adds considerable credibility, only for the whole thing to be diluted by Our Chairman's garbled ramblings.

He struts about handing out sweeties (undoubtedly seconds) to the kids, and every now and then we get the live on pitch Dougie Show.

He IS polishing his own ego, and, yes, it's probably harmless, but those who seem to think he's a guru just because he spent a few bob are as daft as he sometimes seems.
mortonjag 2007-01-13 09:40:01
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 13 2007, 09:07 AM) [snapback]221168[/snapback]

I can't wait for the new independent Scotland if this is what we're going to get.
Sounds magic.......a Utopia for us all to carry around our own wee prejudices in our bags, whilst we figure out our final solution for anyone on our island who was unfortunate enough to be born south of Hadrian's Wall.

It really doesn't need to be like that - we're all Jock Tamson's bairns.
I liked Burn's vision of the future, it's a pity that about three hundred years later our lack of vision and obsession with the English, and in some cases anything unScottish, is still gating our path to our future ......

For a' that, an a' that!
Our toils obscure, an a' that,
The rank is but the guinea's stamp,
The man's the gowd for a' that.

Then let us pray that come it may
(As come it will for a' that),
That Sense and Worth o'er a' the earth,
Aye but don't forget Rabbie was a pre Rangers Hun and mason-only to get it in before Colkitto mind! wink.gif
Shall bear the gree an a' that.
For a' that, an a' that,
It's coming yet for a' that,
That man to man, the world, o'er
Shall brithers be for a' that.

God would be good that would let me live to see it.

TonInDublin

Aye but Rabbie was a pre Rangers Hun, and a Mason. Just wanted to beat Colkitto to that!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-13 10:20:30
QUOTE(steveoath @ Jan 13 2007, 10:04 AM) [snapback]221177[/snapback]

Interesting that a non league player gets the jail but Ben Thatcher got heehaw (apart from a ban as I recall) for his "challenge".

Steve

You don't always get the full story- this guy may have had 'previous', making the Judge's decision more strict.
mortonjag 2007-01-13 10:28:02
QUOTE(CraigoTON @ Jan 12 2007, 02:47 PM) [snapback]220946[/snapback]

good to know, looking forward to the game. got the feekin flu, but i think i'll brave it

This is the best thread for ages, as I just LOVE that goal.

Not bad from Bambi, the big Jessie plank of wood eh! rolleyes.gif Did you notice the Killie defender just couldn't get high enough-WHAT a first touch and use of his height. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-13 11:26:11
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jan 13 2007, 10:37 AM) [snapback]221187[/snapback]

Yay ! Let's start a movement. I vote for Morton Jag to be the Chairman of
NSP. (never satisfied party) . That's my last contribution to this depressing thread. I suspect the vast majority are doing the sensible thing and just ignoring it and hoping it goes away.

Just wait, 'LastWordJag' will be along any minute....................

How could I disappoint you cloth ears! That is all! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-13 11:28:55
QUOTE(adder4 @ Jan 13 2007, 10:27 AM) [snapback]221180[/snapback]

he was handed a deal by morton and he opted to go back to england as he was home sick its his own doing

He may very well have been offered a deal, but given the raw deal he got all season, who could blame his nostalgia?
mortonjag 2007-01-13 11:34:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 13 2007, 10:42 AM) [snapback]221190[/snapback]

Sydney may well be one of the world's gay capitals, but it has left one famous gay couple a little cold.

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Behind every great man is a … well, in Sir Elton John's case at least, it's a fiercely loyal husband, David Furnish, who has attacked Sydney in the pages of The Spectator following their recent trip Down Under.
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http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/01/12/1168105173364.html

Was it buggery, or just simple assault? smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-13 12:28:04
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ Jan 13 2007, 11:44 AM) [snapback]221201[/snapback]

I don't think anyone is saying that anyone else cannot have their personal opinion.
However, there are those who seem to go out of their way to find a negative, however trivial and obtuse, from ANYTHING positive that the Club do or how well the team performs.

Well I can only speak for myself, but nobody ever reads my post without homing in on what they describe as the NEGATIVE.

Unlike many posters for example, I DO NOT criticise or 'rubbish' individual players, and frequently defend them against 'throw away' comments.

Furthermore, I DO give credit where I feel it's due-the Kilmarnock game, and the Mathers signing are just two recent examples.

The problem seems to be that many posters-not necessarily yourself- just wont have ANY criticism of anything Morton.

That, IMO, is far more unreasonable than stating POSITIVELY, and with explanation, what I see to be wrong.
mortonjag 2007-01-13 12:59:51
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 13 2007, 12:40 PM) [snapback]221208[/snapback]

Not so! My issue is with the continuous criticism of the manager and the chairman on a completely subjective basis. When reviewed in a real world, objective basis, the criticism just does not stack up.

So, is it any wonder that the majority get pissed off with the constant carping when the club in terms of results is enjoying one of its best seasons of the last 50 years.

More paranoia! What made you think I was specifically referring to you? At least you give a reasoned counter argument when you disagree.

Complacency is always the enemy of progress. We are having a good season, but have had several poor performances which I've stated were IMO the result of managerial inexperience.

For some reason, however, that is unacceptable to some, yet they rarely do anything other than fire abuse.
mortonjag 2007-01-14 08:58:58
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 14 2007, 08:21 AM) [snapback]221501[/snapback]

Currently studying for my advanced tax exam on Tuesday and there is one little point that is bugging the hell out of me.

In order for a deed of variation (the altering of a will after the person has died) 3 elements are required; it is done within 2 years of death, is signed by all the beneficiaries and it must not be made for consideration

The last part is the area I have trouble with, I can imagine what it means but am struggling to put it into words. If anyone can help here I would be much appreciated.

You're up early sir.
It simply means that in agreeing the alteration to the will, no beneficiary gains any advantage over things as they stand before the alteration.

Tax doesn't need to be taxing! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-14 09:07:32 ...Dougie had a confectionery inspiration, and in time honoured Cadbury fashion we had the Golden Casket 'Flake'. Those were selling in their millions, but the level of GC Flake related crime.....
mortonjag 2007-01-14 09:26:00
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 13 2007, 08:33 PM) [snapback]221385[/snapback]

might be something to do with your smug, pompous tone.

There again that perception might have something to do with your attitude problem-grow up sonny. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-14 09:34:32 That was a very satisfactory performance.

The conditions were dire, yet we managed to play a fair bit of attractive football, and scored two peaches of goals.

What pleased me more than anything was the fact that at no time did we 'lose our way', and it always looked as though the goals would come. Paul Mathers did not have one save to make throughout the ninety minutes, and I don't think he was to blame for their rather fortunate goal.

Some of the lads obviously put in a better shift than others, but on a day like yesterday, I don't think criticism is due to any.

JM made a wise decision in moving Weatherson forward where, IMO, he has always belonged.
mortonjag 2007-01-14 09:37:34
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 14 2007, 09:31 AM) [snapback]221512[/snapback]

I am up early, 10am exam starts in Glasgow do that to me over the course.

That's a great explanation, thanks a lot!

and tax doesn't have to be taxing? Never met my lecturer then? I have basically learned the course as if I had never been to any lectures for this exam as she was utterly useless.

Women are frequently taxing! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-14 09:40:27
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 14 2007, 12:28 AM) [snapback]221456[/snapback]

http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s1i13650

300 years ago this Tuesday a rabble bunch of co-dependent, miserly, haggis-infested, whisky-sodden, sheep-shagging, incest-spreading, paralytic, dour-old whinging wind-bags decided it was worth looting the London Exchequer in return for signing a multi-choice gagging clause called the Treaty of Union. The Scots rapidly followed suit and on a bonny wintry morning on January 16 1707 hystery was made. ohmy.gif

The skunks have much to answer for.
mortonjag 2007-01-14 10:07:59
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jan 14 2007, 09:57 AM) [snapback]221522[/snapback]

Watch it. tongue.gif

... but when they're not, the returns can be quite profitable. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-14 10:16:59 Ah Tonsilitis-the dark secret has been revealed-why didn't you just tell us all you had been promoted from this rag to the riches that are the Dougie Programme notes.

He obviously likes playing wee games almost more than you.

Mind you given your dual faith in the numbers game, he must really be scratching his napper at yesterday's attendance figures which he had been 'sure would reflect the enjoyment' of the previous week.

NO EXCUSES OR EXPLANATIONS are acceptable-don't forget it's the statistics that tell the story! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-14 10:32:59
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jan 14 2007, 10:21 AM) [snapback]221536[/snapback]

agreed!
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mortonjag 2007-01-14 10:38:54
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 13 2007, 11:37 PM) [snapback]221444[/snapback]

We certainly deserve a decent crowd. I am doing my bit bringing two 'extras' to hospitality

Statistics show that the week before pay day in January is when people are more skint than at any other time in the whole year.....but I reckon we'll get over 3000! rolleyes.gif

mortonjag 2007-01-14 10:43:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 14 2007, 10:13 AM) [snapback]221530[/snapback]

the returns can be quite profitable.

Gidday mortonjag,

how did you come

to that conclusion ??
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I publish a slimming magazine! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-14 11:27:05
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 14 2007, 11:04 AM) [snapback]221553[/snapback]

Fuxake! Statistics, Statistics, you're obsessed with statistics!! laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2007-01-14 11:30:58
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 14 2007, 11:25 AM) [snapback]221557[/snapback]

I think we'll have an independent Scotland in spite of the SNP, not because of it.
Don't look back.

Indeed, good old Raith Rovers director, presbyterian minister's son, and arch pragmatist (a Gordon's for me) Brown's making an excellent job. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-14 11:36:04
QUOTE(El gofer @ Jan 14 2007, 11:30 AM) [snapback]221561[/snapback]

If it was Stuart Malcolm, I think he played for St Johnstone did he not?

D.O.B. 20/8/79 Ht 6' 3 " Wt 12.05
Signed Aug 2006 from Dublin City
Previous clubs-St Johnstone,Cowdenbeath, Plymouth Argyle,Ross County,Hutchison Vale B.C.

With apologies to ThornTon! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-14 17:18:49
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jan 14 2007, 04:51 PM) [snapback]221697[/snapback]

I'd love to come through, however its the day after my last EVER exam so i'm not sure i'll be in any fit state to get up early enough and travel. Will need to be back in Edinburgh for the Saturday night as well so doubt i'll make it. Unless anyone travelling from Edinburgh (and coming back straight after) has space........? smile.gif

My brother and I will leave Glasgow just after 2 p.m. and normally get back by 5.40 so I could pick you up at Queen St. at say 2 p.m. and drop you back off at 5.45. If you're interested, P.M. me.
mortonjag 2007-01-14 17:29:59 ...and immediately 'phoned his psychiatrist friend, who.....
mortonjag 2007-01-14 17:33:35
QUOTE(ton_will_get_promoted @ Jan 14 2007, 05:14 PM) [snapback]221702[/snapback]

Most of who i refer to are over 20 and I still see them float about in pubs with all the clobber and the gay rich boy patter.

GIVE IT A f***ING REST.

What is it rocks your boat most, the pants, the pounds, or the preference? sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-14 18:47:38 I thought you meant the first Elvis to have played for the Huns, the Jam Tarts, and Dem Tims! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-14 19:00:45
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jan 14 2007, 06:48 PM) [snapback]221758[/snapback]

Done and done...

And confirmed!
mortonjag 2007-01-14 19:20:40
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 14 2007, 07:07 PM) [snapback]221770[/snapback]

i submit to your rapier-like wit.

Like whit?
mortonjag 2007-01-15 07:01:01 It all depends on what you mean by NEED.

We've just had an excellent spell which has probably made us unassailable in terms of the league.

If, however, we were offered a decent experienced midfielder, OR defender at a decent price, we should grab him, as there will still be days when those lads need that calming and motivating influence.
mortonjag 2007-01-15 07:07:31
QUOTE(marxist_ton' @ Jan 14 2007, 11:13 PM) [snapback]221899[/snapback]

Have to disagree with that statement completely. Anytime he plays up front from the start he is invisible. He is a great defender and I see no reason whatsoever to change that.

Jesus f*ckin' Christ-sometimes you just can't win-not only does my POSITIVE post go unrecognised, but some muppet tosses in a ridiculous statement.

HOW MANY TIMES has he started 'up front' this season?

HOW MANY GOALS has he scored from defence this season?

I didn't say he should be played as a poacher, though I still see him as a striker, and funnily enough, despite his No 2 shirt, it's incredible how often he's still described as a 'striker' in the papers.

I PRAISED JM's decision to move him FORWARD!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-15 07:11:55
QUOTE(edd @ Jan 14 2007, 08:53 PM) [snapback]221812[/snapback]

normally i'd be driving through but my car's back at a mechanic in greenock for it's MOT (which it will fail, though the mechanic will fix it so it passes if it's not too serious). i'll still be going to the game, though - probably the train but i'm thinking about trying the bus for once cos i've heard it's much cheaper. if i happen to see you i'll come and say hello smile.gif

edd, I've arranged to pick edinton up in Glasgow (wait for Boozehound's reply), so why don't you PM him or me, as there's still a spare seat?
mortonjag 2007-01-15 07:15:30
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 14 2007, 09:47 PM) [snapback]221851[/snapback]

in that case,arklesTON, we all have the perfect excuse.

The day we stop learning we're fuct.

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and the day we stop f***in' we're deid!
mortonjag 2007-01-15 07:20:58
QUOTE(alexp @ Jan 14 2007, 10:44 PM) [snapback]221880[/snapback]

strange buissness that...

..he was under 24 hour police surveillance.

Cappie was anything but a happy chappy. His uncle Douglas was languishing in a Glasgow Geriatric Unit, his mate Crawford had been sectioned and committed to the local 'loony bin', but worst of all, his...
mortonjag 2007-01-15 07:26:34
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 14 2007, 09:21 PM) [snapback]221828[/snapback]

It's amazing, even on this thread alone, the amount of posters who say " I'm in favour of an independent Scotland, but......" But you never get a positive post about an independent Scotland from them.

Until baw face in your avator snuffs.
mortonjag 2007-01-15 08:22:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 15 2007, 07:33 AM) [snapback]221937[/snapback]

Gidday mortonjag,

I am not sure that is completely medically sound ?

huh.gif huh.gif

What about the Pope and his mates ?

Trops in Iraq ?

Astronauts in the Shuttle ?

Sir Francis Chichester ?
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The Pope's a wanker
Iraqui troops shag each other
Astronauts in the Shuttle are so scared THEY're 'f*cked' they don't care
Sir Francis Chichester was fed up getting tossed off wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-15 08:43:09 I was probably more disappointed than most when our lads 'blew' the playoffs-I'm not getting any younger and I want a fair few years at least in the first division, where we might see some decent football.

I was expecting great things this season, but let's face it, despite the statistics, we frequently toiled last year, and memories of games against Ayr and Forfar at home, and Alloa and Stirling away, still haunt me.

I frequently felt really frustrated that such a talented young squad could so easily lose their way during games, and YES-I did find it hard to lay the blame at their youthful feet, but something was clearly wrong.

I have, I believe correctly, been scathing on many occasions about our equally inexperienced management team, but perhaps I should have been able to make more allowances for their being a bit 'wet behind the ears'.

Anyhow--to my point.

We now have the 'Feel good' factor. For the first time there seems to be a genuine belief permeating the squad-I'm not talking about a couple of cocky individuals- and the Kilmarnock result will hopefully prove to have been the watershed in JM's career.

I believe we will comfortably beat Stirling, and play excellent football in the process.
mortonjag 2007-01-15 08:49:47 the local 'dealer' hoping for a fresh supply of pencil shavings, but unable to afford the hiked up price he.....
mortonjag 2007-01-15 09:01:33 It's funny-we seem to have a much more heated debate about playing wee tunes, than about more serious matters.

I voted 'yes', and the reason is quite simple. Every time I've been at an away match and they've scored and played their music, it definitely worsened the moment for me, and I reckon it does for our players too.

It's a not too secret weapon-and conversely, if our players get a 'lift' when we cheer a goal, I'm certain it would add to that, and to the other side's misery.

I don't know the name of the tune we played at the end of the Killie game-the one EVERYBODY was clapping to, but that's the type of music to 'get it right up' the opposition.
mortonjag 2007-01-15 09:07:15
QUOTE(marxist_ton' @ Jan 14 2007, 11:16 PM) [snapback]221900[/snapback]

What does RLY mean???

REAL lard Yardley.
mortonjag 2007-01-15 09:37:02 on an innovative plan-he would market designer incontinence knickers, bearing the Millions logo, but inexperienced in the field, he.....
mortonjag 2007-01-15 10:48:00 ..'Who dropped that mingin' turd in my Millions poke-ah bet it wis you...
mortonjag 2007-01-15 11:04:40
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 15 2007, 10:57 AM) [snapback]221978[/snapback]

It was OK, but playing as a soldier dressed in all-blue was just Unionist propaganda, reminding us that the Scottish armed forces are just lapdogs to the Brits.

LIke it or not, the Scottish armed forces ARE Brits-but I understand your point!
mortonjag 2007-01-15 12:10:47 Slightly off track, but do you remember when McConnell came here with the Chairman of Bell's whisky.

Our first minister was greeted by loud boos, followed by huge cheers for the 'whisky' man.

Ton fans at their best! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-15 12:26:48 I guess this is all just fun, but why not f*ckin' Gordon f*ckin' f*ckin' Ramsay.

He's got local connections, is fond of the club, and has a few spare bawbees.

If Dougie gave him a good enough f*ckin' time in hospitality, who f*ckin' knows what might f*ckin' happen! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-15 12:30:29 to f*ck off, saying demurely, 'Is ma f*ckin name oan it, to which she replied with a wry smile....
mortonjag 2007-01-15 12:45:30
QUOTE(tontastic @ Jan 15 2007, 12:33 PM) [snapback]222013[/snapback]

I am hoping to get something moving in the next few months to increase the amount of archive footage onto the web site for folk to download.

I have spoken to several people who have volunteered tapes etc, so if you have any such old footage please do drop me an email or a private message etc.

Even if you don't have any such tapes, you might still be able to help out with this project. If you have any old video equipment lying about (VHS/Betamax) and you wouldn't mind donating it, then please get in touch. I've a pretty rubbishy Daewoo VCR, and frankly its not brilliant! I know a lot of folk have moved onto DVDs for recording, and could well have punted their old equipment into the loft/cupboard or wherever. If you have a good quality player then get in touch. I have no Betamax capabilities at all, but have been promised a pile of betamax tapes with old footage. If you have a betamax player that still works, please get in touch. I can offer some morton DVDs in exchange if this will help encourage folk to dig out a still working relic.

I need to get some new disks into my server, as it is pretty full at the moment. I would ask if anyone has some pretty new spare 400 GByte disks lying about, but I suspect the answer would be no ...

The next step would be to start capturing the video in as optimal a quality as possible, and downsizing it so that it is capable of being downloaded off of the web or work on an interface to make it more like youtube, so it plays embedded in the page. I might need to go down the root of using some file sharing software for downloads. Once this is all setup, it will be a matter of steadily capturing/ converting/ uploading the footage.

So to open up this for discussion, what would people's preferences be for how to download, what era of morton football to make available first etc etc.

I've got a Toshiba VHS VCR which is now probably five or six years old, but has been used only about twenty times so the heads and everything should be in good nick. Beta was, IMO the better format but the fact that Sony were upstaged hopefully means there must be a lot of good old machines lying about.
If that's any use PM me.
mortonjag 2007-01-15 12:59:53 My 'ex' was never into football, and my new partner's been a lifelong Hun, and ex season ticket holder at Ibrox.

I've been trying for two and a half years to get her to a Ton match, and she just laughed at me, so I bought her a ticket for the Killie game as part of her Christmas present.

Needless to say she was gobsmacked at the boys' performance and has been boasting about the Ton at work-apparently she passed two guys on the Monday, whom she knew from a few years back, and they smirked and asked if she was 'still a Hun', so she waved the Ton mug I'd bought her in fun.

Turned out they were both Kilmarnock supporters, and not too amused either.

Anyway, I couldn't get her to the Alloa game, but Motherwell's a definite 'Yes'.
mortonjag 2007-01-15 13:06:07 ...explain the unsightly bulge in the front of his trousers. Looking slightly embarrased he withdrew.....
mortonjag 2007-01-15 13:16:15
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Jan 15 2007, 12:56 PM) [snapback]222025[/snapback]

Not for one minute, do I want to sound like a party pooper....but on wee question? I know loads of folk do this, with bootlegs and the likes, but what happens if the SFA and other footballing bodies, even the BEEB, dont like what your doing? I mean, if you get to do this gratis, and only your time spent putting them together....are you not worried that one of them may take you to the gallows if your not paying them copyright fees for each and every clip?

Not a chance of that IMO. For a start he's not profiteering, and he's using old footage with VERY limited open market value.

The film and TV industries have made such fortunes over the years, that there have only been token efforts at stamping out piracy, which is still alive and kicking on an international scale.
mortonjag 2007-01-15 13:43:42 ...nothing to do with his Willie, totally unaware that the'bulge' had doubled to twice its previous size. Gillian looked....
mortonjag 2007-01-15 13:57:35
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 15 2007, 01:31 PM) [snapback]222039[/snapback]

Are you on crack?

Came off a week ago-can't think straight and my f*cking nose hurts too. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-15 14:02:29
QUOTE(se65an @ Jan 15 2007, 01:03 PM) [snapback]222029[/snapback]

anyone else going to hospitality this weekend?

Who would have guessed that this game would have been the biggest of the year!!

... and he'd get a surprise P45

Mr Alan Moore! cool.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-15 14:17:45 As five hungry magpies swooped and attempted to devour the....
mortonjag 2007-01-15 14:21:20
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 15 2007, 02:17 PM) [snapback]222059[/snapback]

I should, of course, have listed Mauritania instead of Algeria.

Mauritania, the home of a well known football team.
mortonjag 2007-01-15 14:26:09 trying to smuggle up to Dougie. The doctors thought he was just a demented old codger, little realising he hadn't....
mortonjag 2007-01-15 14:27:50
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jan 15 2007, 02:25 PM) [snapback]222066[/snapback]

I would go for maggie too, with a chain saw! mad.gif

I'm DEADLY serious when I say I'd use it on Scott first.
mortonjag 2007-01-15 14:43:29
QUOTE(Patg @ Jan 15 2007, 02:33 PM) [snapback]222071[/snapback]

What did I do ??

Scott tongue.gif

Failed to change your name by deed poll after that bastard f*cked us! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-15 14:44:44
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 15 2007, 02:31 PM) [snapback]222070[/snapback]

Hamilton Mauritanians?

NO-Greenock Mauriton! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-15 16:05:55 Had Andy had the right personality, Jock Stein would have kept him at Celtic, and he would have been a Scotland international great. No contest in terms of pure genius.
mortonjag 2007-01-15 16:51:21
QUOTE(moneton!!! @ Jan 15 2007, 04:38 PM) [snapback]222143[/snapback]

Laptop won't boot up, keeps saying it can't find the software file unsure.gif

Anyone got any ideas to help get this sorted?

Have you tried inserting the original programme disc-it will probably let you 'press any key to boot from disc'.
mortonjag 2007-01-15 16:57:01
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 15 2007, 04:27 PM) [snapback]222130[/snapback]

I would tend to agree with Tonsilitis that Jim McInally is showing he has learned from his mistakes and is making steady improvement. For this reason it may be time to stop rhyming off mistakes he made during his learning curve as this serves no purpose except for someone trying to back up their own argument.

Similarly the point that he was the wrong choice and too inexperienced has outlived it’s effectiveness and in any case can’t be used against as criticism against the Manager. Claiming we should be in the first division by now is a valid point (often made by myself) but I’m now starting to think the team may just be starting to come of age now, learning how to fight for points as well as play football, and now might be a better time to enter the first division.

An experienced manager such as Dick Campbell might have taken us up sooner but would we want that type of football or the team Jim’s building at Cappielow? I personally think Jim’s struggled to establish himself but he’s stuck with his principles and things seem to be clicking into place at last. We look like a team going places for the first time in many years and I think Jim deserves a lot of the credit.

Which is a point already made by me in a new thread I started early today.
mortonjag 2007-01-15 18:44:56 In that case, what's the definition of right footed in Chris's case? Is that the one he uses to kick the cat when he bangs his head on the way in the door? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-15 18:48:21
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Jan 15 2007, 06:16 PM) [snapback]222195[/snapback]

Before when we were struggling, a lot of people criticised Mr Rae for signing players on long contracts. Given that Marcus Paatelinen has just signed a precontract with Inverness and a few others look to be moving up, these guys aren't as good as what Morton have we must only assume that the likes of ICT can't afford to buy our guys out their contracts meaning we get to keep them or it's a decent English club that buys them.

Anyone else thoughts on this?

My thought-can a 'decent English club' write decent English? dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-15 20:17:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 15 2007, 07:12 PM) [snapback]222212[/snapback]

decent English is an oxymoron.

Can you not write common English, man? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-15 20:59:45
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 15 2007, 08:47 PM) [snapback]222246[/snapback]

How can I take anything you say seriously when you tell blatant lies about me ?

'Nationalism' is always very emotive-people get passionate about ideals, but rarely realistic about possibilities.

I would welcome a Scotland, totally self governing, AND financially separate from the other three BRITISH countries, if that was for the general good of people in this country. It may be possible in the future.

It may also be possible to live harmoniously with those other three countries with that in place, but as long as we have rampant 'chip on the shoulder' Salmond style sabre waving, 'Scot Nats' will largely be perceived as deluded idiots IMO.
mortonjag 2007-01-15 21:01:24
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 15 2007, 08:28 PM) [snapback]222241[/snapback]

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mortonjag 2007-01-15 21:21:24
QUOTE(Patg @ Jan 15 2007, 03:08 PM) [snapback]222083[/snapback]

haha . My old user name on here was Scott_(No Relation) before someone accused me of hiding behind it lol tongue.gif

Not to worry Pat-my younger son's middle name is also Scott, AND I have a cousin Hugh who lives in KILMACOLM !!! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-15 21:29:24
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 15 2007, 09:04 PM) [snapback]222255[/snapback]

I agree that the keeper was probably unsighted for Weatherson's goal. If you watch when Peter shoots there is a defender directly in his line of sight. If he had got a good look at it I think he should have at least touched it over as it was pretty well straight at him. Well taken goal though but Templeman's was the pick of the bunch.

I'm still not clear what happened for Alloa's goal as I did'nt get a clear view of it on Saturday and the video has not helped. It looks a bit like a Mathers blunder all the same.

The fans behind the goal must have seen it best-maybe somebody will tell us. It all happened so quickly. One of the newspapers describes it as a 'defensive blunder', while another says an Alloa player cleverly knocked it on to Mackie who had found space. From where we were sitting, Mathers certainly looked as though he expected one of our defenders to deal with it.
mortonjag 2007-01-15 21:38:13
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 15 2007, 09:25 PM) [snapback]222266[/snapback]

So you won't vote for independence until you get a politician that fits the bill for you? Even though that could possibly take another 50 years ?

You must be happy with the way things are just now I take it ?

In the union, Scots soldiers dying in illegal wars, Trident, cash for honours, sleaze etc.
These things are better than having Salmond as First Minister in an independent Scotland to you

You clearly don't have much understanding of politicians Colkitto-what makes you think that the current pantomime at Holyrood is devoid of devious cash incentives and sleaze, or that baw face professional punter Salmond would bring purity to that den of self gratification if he were boss?
mortonjag 2007-01-15 22:22:40
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 15 2007, 10:08 PM) [snapback]222298[/snapback]

Do you snort crack? I always thought it was smoked. Can I be informed as this is puzzling me.

The missus discovered my stash and gave me a bunch of fives!

Mind you a wee snort might help, but I'm not for relegation this season! cool.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-15 22:25:21
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 15 2007, 10:17 PM) [snapback]222301[/snapback]

he might have done. i was too transfixed by the flailing arms and flying saliva to really notice what he was saying.

A true testiculator!
mortonjag 2007-01-16 05:36:26
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 16 2007, 12:37 AM) [snapback]222336[/snapback]

So you did get some woman to put up with you then???

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mortonjag 2007-01-16 05:42:13
QUOTE(Mags @ Jan 15 2007, 11:57 PM) [snapback]222328[/snapback]

I can't understand why so many people are against the music when we score, which I think only adds to the atmosphere at Cappielow right now.
I mean,we're 9 points clear at the top of this league with our best chance in ages of getting promoted,so why all the moaning and whinging about keeping it for "the big games"....every last game of this season is a "big game" for us.

Around about this time last year,when Gretna were so far ahead and we had to settle for a place in the play offs, you could practically hear a pin drop at Cappielow when we scored.The lack of atmosphere was dire.
Where I was standing on Saturday,the reaction to both goals was just as good as it was last week in our "big game". As someone mentioned earlier,it also pisses off the opposition,I hate it when away teams play it...another reason to play it biggrin.gif

It would be interesting to know what the players think of the music,maybe Graham should ask them....but I say keep it going smile.gif
Mags.

Absolutely, and the poll is now starting to swing towards a fairly firm 'YES'.

Where does the decision come from, and who's holding us back-let's face it Dougie's always asking if we're 'up for it', and clearly sees himself as the oldest swinger at Scapa?

Graeme-JIST DAE IT.
mortonjag 2007-01-16 05:48:00 Five pages of 'general nonsense' from Colkitto = five pages of nonsense from General Colkitto.
mortonjag 2007-01-16 06:20:23 a snippet from the British Medical Journal (which had been used to line his litter tray), and read...'Dementia -- a common misdiagnosis'.

Rapidly identifying 'Addictions' in the subscript, he found to his great relief- the section headed--'Acute on chronic pencilshavingitis and pseudo Alzheimers disease, BUT, just as he was about to lift the 'phone to relay this information to Arthur....
mortonjag 2007-01-16 06:28:14
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 16 2007, 02:30 AM) [snapback]222346[/snapback]

I vote for ''Michael Deeney , the man who could beat 3 players in a telephone box.''

I still remember the morning I choked on my cornflakes reading that comment in a tabloid newspaper one Saturday morning.

As for Beckham v Ritchie ; I'd say Beckham , as he has done the needful more regularly than Ritchie ; but , it's hard to tell as Beckham plays with modern balls which can be more bendable / swerveable etc ; plus , when I was watching Ritchie I was only a wee laddie and my memory , sadly , is only in bits and peices.

Like Andy's balls? sad.gif

It must be comforting to Victoria to know that her husband's modern bendable balls are keeping pace with her plastic tits, and far less expensive I'd imagine, and he may well have done the needful more often than Andy who was always a lazy big B.

Was this not supposed to be about inherent SKILL though ??? smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-16 07:32:14
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 16 2007, 07:23 AM) [snapback]222360[/snapback]

Yes , but what I am trying to say is that we are not comparing apples with apples. It's impossible to make comparions. If Andy Ritchie was playing with the balls Beckham played with then maybe he would have been even more successful , and if Beckham was playing with 1970's and 80s balls then maybe he'd be p1sh.

Remove the two 'maybe's and you've got your answer!
mortonjag 2007-01-16 09:28:36
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 16 2007, 07:43 AM) [snapback]222365[/snapback]

Supposing, supposing, three men were frozen. One died , how many were left ?

Depends on how deeply according to research! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-16 09:33:12
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ Jan 16 2007, 09:08 AM) [snapback]222373[/snapback]

is the only non driver of a group of seven closely knit work colleagues. He gets a lift to work and a lift home from work.
He is always asked if he needs any lunch and is always taken to an appropriate outlet, if required.
He sometimes asks for favours, lifts etc, and is ALWAYS accommodated.

Yet, when he decides to have a house party this weekend, does he invite his put upon taxi drivers, does he hell.

That guy is Lazy Arse Student

Comments on this conduct would be appreciated

He's smart-you're mugs!
mortonjag 2007-01-16 10:11:36
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 16 2007, 10:03 AM) [snapback]222396[/snapback]

When my Mrs was my girlfriend (late sixties) we went on holiday, leaving from Gatwick late evening. We flew down to London in the morning. When we got there she wants to know what we will do - Oxford Street?, Madam Tussauds? - erm No! Morton have a pre season friendly at Watford so thats where we went, much to her disgust.

But she still loves me.............. well a bit anyway!

As long as they love THAT bit, eh Tonsilitis! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-16 10:16:17 ...Gretna fan's head, and he says he....
mortonjag 2007-01-16 13:41:00 has he forgotten who I am-a living legend with a ginormous penile bulge, yet I'm not good enough for.....
mortonjag 2007-01-16 14:00:21
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 13 2007, 09:32 PM) [snapback]221410[/snapback]

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Thread winner.

Jason did not get a raw deal. He excelled in coming off the bench for a while and more than once was given a starting line-up place in order to determine if he could "turn it on" for 90 minutes. He almost invariably could not do so. I liked (and still like) the guy, I thought his aerial ability was underrated, and I was very happy to see him given a chance... but he was not a great player at this level.

Blame it on circumstances, blame it on service: whatever happened, he was not a 90 minute performer for Morton on anything approaching a regular basis. We have in McGowan a better player (if only until May), in Linn a promising one who is proven at this level and in Templeman we finally have the player we paid for. Jason opted to leave and I'd say it worked out just fine for all concerned.

Walker was underrated, and much of what you've just said could also have been applied to Sanny for a good part of last season.

He had undoubted ability, and scored some cracking goals for us. I did not mean he got a raw deal financially, but I don't believe he got a decent chance to blend with the other players.

Anyway, we're all entitled to our opinions, but those who are poking fun at Walker on this thread are no better than those who were calling Templeman a big Jessie, a 'plank' etc.
mortonjag 2007-01-16 14:07:33
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Jan 16 2007, 11:24 AM) [snapback]222441[/snapback]

Here's one for Mortonjag. tongue.gif

Perhaps he is actually left-footed. This could explain why he hasn't been as prolific with Morton as he was before his arrival, because JM has been telling him to shoot with his right foot.

cool.gif ScotinBelgie

Get's coat and leaves!

Devil's advocate you are-just when I've been going easy on JM, but there again everybody knows he prefers people who kick with the left, so maybe Sanny's the smart guy in the conundrum! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-17 06:21:16
QUOTE(alexp @ Jan 16 2007, 10:51 PM) [snapback]222715[/snapback]

im getting confused dont even know what the storys about anymore laugh.gif

Neither does Dougie as he witters away in a Glasgow geriatric unit with a misdiagnosis of dementia. The poor old codger has Jim McInally to blame for rekindling his dormant pencilshavingsitis. Weegieton and Mortonjag, living locally still seem to take an interest in the benefactor of Millions, but the whole of Inverclyde seems to have....
mortonjag 2007-01-17 06:40:12 'PUBIC HARE'.
mortonjag 2007-01-17 06:44:29
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 16 2007, 02:37 PM) [snapback]222526[/snapback]

I had occasion to call the club today and asked about Peter. He did hurt himself at training and it was feared he might have broken his foot but he has had a scan and all is well - its just a bit sore but he should be OK for this weekend....

and JM has given him a roasting for playing in Jesus sandals.
mortonjag 2007-01-17 06:47:36
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 16 2007, 03:26 PM) [snapback]222556[/snapback]

Get Donald Finlay on the case - he'll soon tell you if he's a left footer or not!! biggrin.gif

'Hmm-Chistopher Templeman..ah from Kircaldy.. not an ounce of Fenian in that lad I'd say, Oh and could you chuck the soap, no not that, I'd rather have the orange one, then I'll wash my father's door. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-17 06:59:04
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Jan 16 2007, 05:48 PM) [snapback]222601[/snapback]

Mea culpa MJ! It was just too difficult to resist, especially as you've been so positive of late!

biggrin.gif ScotinBelgie

Pas de probleme mon ami! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-17 09:51:53 .... covertly drown the other directors in a huge vat of boiling sugar before.....
mortonjag 2007-01-17 10:00:07 I was driving down the M8 to Gourock on a lovely summer's day last year, when I spotted quite an old saloon in front (I can't remember if it was a Volvo or not).

As I overtook I clearly clocked the registration N16GER, with a stud inserted to make it read NIGGER.

I couldn't believe my eyes as I glanced over and saw three young African guys in it, giving the music big stuff-obviously taking the piss, and enjoying themselves.
mortonjag 2007-01-17 10:10:40 grab a pole and hold the last bobbing head under for....
mortonjag 2007-01-18 05:32:08 ...Ok I admit it, I'm a dog, but as for being mad....
mortonjag 2007-01-18 06:14:00
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 17 2007, 09:47 AM) [snapback]222806[/snapback]

Over the whole no one player has stood out to me. Everything we have at the moment is all down to team effort.

I agree. MOTM awards are, at best, totally subjective. It might be best to describe the award as the 'most popular player award', and at the moment that's Sanny.
mortonjag 2007-01-18 06:18:09 Mathers

Finlayson Harding Greacen

Millar McAlister Stevenson McLaughlin

Lilley Templeman Linn

mortonjag 2007-01-18 06:28:49
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Jan 17 2007, 11:29 PM) [snapback]223069[/snapback]

If Walker's so underrated, why's he plying his trade for Morecambe reserves? It seems that it's only you that can see the true worth of a footballer. As for your last statement ("no better than those") just puts you out to be a condescending twat who thinks they are superior to anyone who disagrees with you.

'Superior' is the wrong word you failed twat.

Templeman played half last season as a Brechin reserve-just to give one contradictory argument.

I DO believe he was underrated, but did not, as Nacho jokingly hinted, see him as the next white Pele.

His scoring record for his hours on the pitch was not by any means unreasonable, he was a torment to defences at times when the rest of the boys had gone off the boil, and he had definite goalscoring ability.

I'll probably have to repeat this so that it penetrates your thick skull-I ONLY SAID HE WAS UNDERRATED-I did not say he was great.

That IS meant to be condescending-please don't come back for more. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-18 06:42:33
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Jan 17 2007, 11:25 PM) [snapback]223065[/snapback]

Lilley was sold before the Bosman rule took full effect. To compare what we'd get for Jim on the basis of what we paid for Templeman is nonesense. A player is only worth what someone is willing to pay, however looking at current market trends in football transfers I'd say even £100k is asking a bit much. All this talk of appearances and sell on clauses - to much footie manager me thinks.

Spot on for once Sir! wink.gif

mortonjag 2007-01-18 08:54:25
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 18 2007, 08:45 AM) [snapback]223112[/snapback]

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I think you are wrong there my friend as he is under 24 and well under contract Morton have the upper hand I think £300k with sell on clauses number of apperances and dare I say it international appearances if his progression merit's this is a fair price.
Totally agree.

They’d need to buy out his contract for a start, say 100K

Then they’d need to buy the player say 200K

Then they’d need to buy his potential, which could be made up of the add-ons mentioned above.
I was just talking to someone on Monday about Jim and said I felt he’d flourish under a better manger / coach.

Jim used to terrorise teams with his mazy runs down the wings and get the crosses in.
Then there was an article in several papers about him, I think last year around the New Year Dumbarton game, and suddenly he stopped crossing the half way line and just passed to someone else or punted the ball up to the strikers.

Only seen 4 games this season so not sure if that has changed, but I think it’d be a great move for the lad and hope he does go.

He's still well capable of those mazy runs, but defences have wisened up, and his lack of a left foot is now a major disadvantage to him, played as he is.
mortonjag 2007-01-18 09:59:06 cruelty to animals, but secretly...
mortonjag 2007-01-18 10:07:15
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 17 2007, 06:22 PM) [snapback]222987[/snapback]

I slept through it last night (I was in bed early), apparently was quite nice to look at...since it's getting rarer these days.

...and it was LYING just like you!
mortonjag 2007-01-18 10:14:11
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 18 2007, 09:17 AM) [snapback]223122[/snapback]

He was a torment to defences when said defences had played 60-70 minutes of football. He was seldom any good starting a match.

That tended to be the case last season I agree, but people have very short memories. The prior season (when Stranraer pipped us), he played several good matches, AND scored some important goals. For example we went to Dumbarton early that season, having already slipped a bit. They were top of the table, and Walker had an excellent match, in which he scored with a first class header.
mortonjag 2007-01-18 10:27:27
QUOTE(Lovedaddy @ Jan 18 2007, 10:03 AM) [snapback]223138[/snapback]

The 3rd goal against Killie was all Jims doing. I would imagine that if a big team bought him they would play him on the right wing to use his natural right foot. Id loove to see him play on the right for us and see what hes like.

I wouldnt take less than £250,000. Hes a talent and is only gonna get better the more he plays.

His build up to that third goal was excellent. I think it's unfair of Mickaspic to accuse him of 'failing to adapt', when he's just another victim of our top heavy talent in midfield. Too many players and too few places means he's never been allowed to develop.

I'm sure there's a LOT more to come from young Jimbo, but probably not here.
mortonjag 2007-01-18 11:06:02 a 'cross' terrier. Plucking up the courage he said, 'Would you oblige me by....
mortonjag 2007-01-18 12:11:10
QUOTE(mickaspic @ Jan 18 2007, 11:13 AM) [snapback]223183[/snapback]

MortonJag in which way has Jim been a victim of our top heavy talent in midfield stopping him developing? He has played how many games in succession? I would agree with people like Keenan, Alex Waker, or Russel suffering from this but not McAllister. He may be on his non-preferred wing but it is still essentially the same position. The manager has showed unblinking faith in him, and he receives very little negative support from the fans (unlike people like Millar and Templeman).

My point was mearely that to attract a sizable bid from a premiership side Jim would have to be ripping teams apart in this league week in week out. This includes making and scoring goals regularly. He blows very hot and cold at present. Posters on here have blamed that on teams adapting to him, and I think he has yet to adapt/raise his game to the level a premiership team would be looking for, before tabling an offer.

Personally, I dont think there is muh in this story. Others have floursihed at this level and went nowhere (Williams, Massiano, Willie McLaren at Airdrie etc). I think Jim will have to prove himself in the first before we see any serious offers.

Mick

I agree with most of what you say, but feel he would produce far more if played where Chis Millar or Jamie Stevenson operate. I can understand JM's reasons for not moving them, but it DOES mean Jimbo gets the short straw IMO.
mortonjag 2007-01-18 12:21:38 The individual school heads have no say in those matters. Those decisions are made at council headquarters by members of the directorate, who have to justify their inflated salaries by making 'BIG' decisions.

Unfortunately they're so strangled by their own red tape that they frequently make a complete arse of themselves.
mortonjag 2007-01-19 07:28:15
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Jan 18 2007, 12:26 PM) [snapback]223224[/snapback]

I too don't recall ever saying Walker was rubbish. Yes he was an honest player who tried his best and gave his all and yes he scored some goals but he's not as good as what we have. McGowan, Lilley, Templeman on form and Linn from what I've seen of him for and against us are all better players I reckon. No big loss to the team, infact in Linn and McGowan we've brought in better players.

For 'Templeman on form', read 'Walker on form'.

You don't give up easily on Sanny, do you ? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-19 08:52:53
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 19 2007, 08:01 AM) [snapback]223467[/snapback]

My thoughts on Jason Walker stem from a mate who went to a lot of Morton games last season.

At first Jason came on and done really well, she hadn't really got the grasp of players name so just referred to him as "the good one" and always wanted him to come on as he was genereally....good.

Then he started a few times and she was wondering why the good one wasn't as good anymore. Then he never really done anything else.

So basically, he could run at tired defences, but from the start didn't offer too much. But he played with his heart and that's all we can ask of a player so I have no grudge with him.

Just don't find him physically attractive!

That last point's very interesting Puggsy, even if you're only winding somebody up.

Templeman is a gawky, gangly sort of ugly duckling player, and when he's not performing he's an easy target. Jason, with his disproportionate carrot head and glaicet 'wee boy' face falls into the same category.

The opposite is somebody like Kev Finlayson-he looks like a man's man, and always seems to know what he's doing. He was absolutely dreadful played wide right for much of last season, but still very much admired by most.
Another example, for me at least, is David McGregor,-dead nice guy, earnest and hardworking attitude, looks the part, and some can't see past him at left back.
mortonjag 2007-01-19 14:25:56 The weather could still affect the crowd a bit, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to top the 4000 mark.

I think we'll win this one with a wee bit to spare. Linn will score, and one more goal-I'll plump for Stevenson-he's due another.

Clean sheet for Mathers. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-20 08:24:06 Sun and rain are forecast for late morning and throughout the afternoon. Given that we have the covers, and that the volume of overnight rain's not been that high, I've no doubts about the game being on.
mortonjag 2007-01-20 08:28:54
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jan 20 2007, 08:26 AM) [snapback]223752[/snapback]

What a start to the day. I'm hoping Mortonjag is 100% correct!

Have no fear Sir, Mortonjag is NEVER wrong. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-20 08:43:45 Just dug this up with reference to recent stuff about Jimbo. Seems that not much has changed in fifteen months.
mortonjag 2007-01-20 08:52:06
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 19 2007, 10:29 PM) [snapback]223673[/snapback]

I was 7 when I lost my virginity to a lamp-post on Belville Street

Male or female? blink.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-20 08:53:31
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 20 2007, 01:47 AM) [snapback]223721[/snapback]

should you two get together

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or are you the same sex

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or does it matter?

wink.gif cool.gif rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-20 08:58:41
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 20 2007, 08:51 AM) [snapback]223762[/snapback]

Or the biggest mistake since Salty slagged off that Alloa trialist before the match, the fanny! smile.gif

Weather much improved in last hour here in The Windiest Place in Britain, Cumbernauld.

Actually looks as though it'll be a nice, but cold and windy, day.

What's it called! smile.gif

I think Tiree is the windiest place in Britain, but I agree Cumbernauld is deceptively high above sea level and can be totally miserable in the winter.
mortonjag 2007-01-20 09:31:03
QUOTE(motherwellfan666 @ Jan 19 2007, 10:42 PM) [snapback]223678[/snapback]

Hi folks!

Hope you bring as many support through as possible for the cup tie. It will be a great game, and you will provide a great challenge for the well, and we hopefully not go into the game over-confident. (unlike Killie did). Well done for gaining a well desevered victory over them.

I hope i have posted this in the correct place, and that i will be made feel welcome on the forums!

-ally

Hi Ally, I've always had a wee soft spot for the 'Well'-a provincial club that's been more successful than average over the years.

Like the Ton, your fans are genuinely local and not of the OF type.

Did you know that back in the sixties and seventies we regularly humped you, just as we will in a couple of weeks? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-20 09:38:25
QUOTE(HamCam @ Jan 20 2007, 09:10 AM) [snapback]223784[/snapback]

Unlike Greenock, Cumbernauld has at least won a design award in recent years.

Hope the game is on and importantly we get a win whether it be by beautiful football or winning ugly - should close the league out. Either way it will make the long journey worthwhile.

Unlike Greenock, Cumbernauld is a s***e tip.

What was the design award for HC-Broadwood stadium? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-20 09:58:37 The worst Ton game I ever saw where the wind was 'boss' was the away cup tie at Livingston. The Livvi goalie wasn't very strong, and some of his goal kicks were literally bending back in the wind. That game was a disgrace in terms of being playable. I got so soaked in the stand, that I confess I left fifteen minutes early, and listened to the rest on the radio on the way home.
mortonjag 2007-01-20 10:10:27
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 20 2007, 09:59 AM) [snapback]223804[/snapback]

Have to agree with Jag - Cumbernauld is a monstrosity.

Luckily I'm on the outskirts, Mollinsburn/Moodiesburn, so don't need to go in that far. smile.gif

Whoever designed the original shopping centre must have been a sci-fi fan on acid, looks like a spaceship out of fcking Blake's Seven or something.

Agreed Donga-I've yet to come across a Scottish 'New Town' that's got any genuine appeal, but Cumbernauld is just unbelievable.

I did a Locum there for nine weeks back in the early eighties. Even when I was leaving, I hadn't mastered the maze of roundabouts, and now it's even worse.
Finding addresses in that concrete jungle is a lottery, and at night sometimes impossible. There is absolutely no conformity to standard house numbering, and when I asked a local colleague about it he laughed and said 'It was done from aerial photographs'. To this day I still don't know whether or not he was taking the piss.

The only salvation for the place has been the construction of some lovely private estates around the perimeter, but I feel genuinely sorry for the poor sods still stuck in the centre.
mortonjag 2007-01-20 10:17:05
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Jan 20 2007, 10:11 AM) [snapback]223814[/snapback]

That was some crowd at that game eh, i mean, im sure ive seen more at Elgin v East Stirling laugh.gif

It was veritably a DREADFUL night for all from Greenock, and sadly I believe that in decent conditions the so called underdogs would have beaten a poor Livvi side.
mortonjag 2007-01-20 10:24:49 A question fro the guy who 'knows everything'. WTF is 'Hiphop'? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-20 10:28:48
QUOTE(Scapaflow @ Jan 20 2007, 10:25 AM) [snapback]223824[/snapback]

CAN I ASK ---WHO THE FCUK IS ANDY blink.gif
I take it you mean Alex Walker because Andy Walker gave up playing a while back, but you can still catch him on Scotsport laugh.gif

I wasn't referring to Andy Walker, or Andy Pandy for that matter.

One of our most productive players at that time was a guy called Andy McLaren. Maybe you've forgotten him as he no longer plays football! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-20 10:33:20
QUOTE(StewartyMac @ Jan 20 2007, 10:27 AM) [snapback]223825[/snapback]

Thing is, if, and it's a huge if, we win today, we've got Forfar at home next week, and you guys are away to Cowden. Possibilities there of gaining another three points, then the following week, you're busy in the Scottish Cup, and we're at home to Peterhead.

We could be level in 3 weeks, or we could be out of it by 5pm today. wink.gif

The way things look right now, that Cowdenbeath game is more scary than playing you today. Alan Moore must be s***ting it but I respect him and he'll have set out his stall wisely. I just think we've got too much momentum for you at the moment, but I'm praying for an entertaining game for ALL fans, and hope Stirling live up to their tradition of playing football, and don't cheapen themselves with spoiling tactics..
mortonjag 2007-01-20 10:38:44
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jan 20 2007, 10:22 AM) [snapback]223821[/snapback]

laugh.gif laugh.gif

Portsmouth are a MASSIVE big city club in comparison with everyone in Scottish Football, with the exception of two teams. Even a move to the likes of Crewe, Tranmere or Doncaster would be a step up for Jim McAllister. Dont forget, hes playing for Morton and despite however much we may all love Morton, we aren't a big club and we wouldnt be able to pay the same wages as 99% of English league Teams.

We have hee haw chance of ever seeing £1m for any of our players this decade, no matter how good they may be.

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This DECADE-you're some optimist arklesTON- allowing for inflation Cappie'll be worth a million in ten years!

Seriously though, we COULD be established in the SPL in three or four years. Nil desperandum mate!
mortonjag 2007-01-20 10:43:38
QUOTE(HamCam @ Jan 20 2007, 10:41 AM) [snapback]223832[/snapback]

Annual Scottish Carbuncle awards.

Cumbernauld has won at least twice (if my memory serves me right) the Plook on the Plinth Award for the Most Dismal Town in Scotland.

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I knew about that HC-but you had me fooled for a minute. That place is DIRE.
mortonjag 2007-01-20 10:47:46
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 20 2007, 10:29 AM) [snapback]223828[/snapback]

the thought of neds rapping makes me want to stab my own ears

So hiphop's Neds rapping I take it. Well I can't stand Neds and they're almost as insulting to the intelligence as 'Rap'.

Mind you some folk pay millions for Picasso-just a case of what's your poison I guess.
mortonjag 2007-01-20 12:02:42
QUOTE(MFC_jamie @ Jan 20 2007, 11:17 AM) [snapback]223848[/snapback]

The weather seems to be looking good now. Its getting sunny! ohmy.gif

Lovely here in Glesca for the last two hours-dry but VERY cold.
mortonjag 2007-01-20 12:05:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 20 2007, 10:45 AM) [snapback]223835[/snapback]

hopefully.

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Gidday NewTon-last time I had an encounter with a lamp post I was well and truly f*cked! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-20 12:09:58 You'll be laughing on the other side of your face.

You can't make a silk purse out of sows' ears.

Many a mickle maks a muckle.

If 'ifs' and 'ands' were pots and pans, there'd be no work for tinkers.

Penny wise, pound foolish.

You can't teach your Granny to suck eggs.

mortonjag 2007-01-20 12:34:29 I guess it just means that somebody's been laughing at somebody else's expense but not looking directly at him-e.g sharing the 'joke' with a third party-and is about to get a bat on the mouth from the side the offended person's on-if that makes sense.
Another one I like is 'Every cloud has a silver lining'.
mortonjag 2007-01-21 08:30:35
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jan 20 2007, 09:14 PM) [snapback]224036[/snapback]

Lets not get carried away about the SPL. We're still a second division club and have been for the past four years. We may get promotion this season at the fourth time of asking, but weve made beating pish teams like Alloa look like an achievement en route to getting this far, i'd settle for winning the second division this year and re-establishing ourselves as a first division team over the next few years rather than expect too much too soon.

Fair enough, but just a point in terms of our potential. Our attendance yesterday exceeded the total for the rest of the division.
and only Dundee in division one beat us by a couple of hundred.

The first division is surprisingly poor compared to the SPL IMO, and playing in Div 1 the way we are at the moment, we'd be right up there near the top, so I fail to see the need to 're-establish ourselves over three or four years'.

I'd now go as far as to suggest we've a very good chance of SPL football in two seasons. Then the testing times will come for us, but getting there's no pipe dream.
mortonjag 2007-01-21 08:34:50 Don't let's go judging players on one game. Davie's forms been coming along quite nicely, but he is NEVER a left back.

Devine is arguably not a better player in footballing terms, but he is extremely efficient at NO 3, and as stated elsewhere, poor Kev, who yet again got a game out of best position, struggled.
mortonjag 2007-01-21 08:41:55
QUOTE(edd @ Jan 21 2007, 02:28 AM) [snapback]224123[/snapback]

i don't think scottish refereeing is particularly bad compared to what i've seen abroad. the world cup was a complete joke as far as refereeing was concerned. we seem to get the type of referees who think the game's all about them - bringing back a free kick cos it was a yard forward from where it should have been and not letting the game flow like it should - whereas other countries seem to have officials who regularly give ridiculous and inexplicable decisions (more so than the scottish referees, i mean ... )

Glad you got back safely edd. You didn't tell us you were going to Colin Hardie's party last night though!

Seriously, I agree in general. Our best Scottish refs have always been fine in the international arena, but we still have two or three total titwanks.
mortonjag 2007-01-21 08:47:33
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 20 2007, 06:48 PM) [snapback]224000[/snapback]

whit ?

are you a rubbery man ?

I have a vague recollection of a Connolly story about a Glaswegian lamp post.

IMHO, lamp posts are not what they used to be.

The gas light ones were far sexier.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Absolutely, and you had to turn them on manually! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-21 08:49:15 You can take a horse to water

but a pencil must be lead.
mortonjag 2007-01-21 08:57:53 All week I was looking forward to the 'biggie'-the game that would seal the season for us, or leave us with more hard work to do, and we absolutely walked it.

Tremendous performance-full credit to JM and the boys for totally snuffing out the pretenders, and let's face it, apart from dealing comfortably with a free kick, and not having a chance with their flukey goal, Paul Mathers could have sat and done his knitting.

This was another tremendous effort by every player, and I find it impossible to select a MOTM, though in the first half wee Gowser showed a lot more of his potential than we've been seeing in recent weeks.
mortonjag 2007-01-21 09:27:58 My friend Robert will be 248 this week, well in spirit at least, but what would he think of the modern 'haggis'?

Tears stain your honest , sonsie face
Great chieftain o' the Puddin race
Aboon them a' ye took your place, Painch, tripe, or thairm
But noo in standard plastic case
They've done you harm

MacDonalds, Burger King and a'
Have nearly forced you tae the wa'
And European legislation, caring nought for our proud nation
Have no' played ba'
Wi' daft E number registration.. nae mair you're braw. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-21 09:34:47 One of the worst refereeing performances I ever saw was at Scapa a couple of seasons ago-the culprit-Hugh Dallas.

Hugh was undoubtedly a fine ref, but anybody can have an off-day, and I guess Colin Hardie has got it right at least once!

I'd take the most 's***e' ref in Scotland against the 'Well', as long as his decisions go in our way.
mortonjag 2007-01-21 11:21:42 It's funny the different 'take' we all have on matches.
When we were going through the bad spell, and threw away an eight point lead, I was extremely critical of obvious deficiencies. We frequently let other sides back in, and often looked clueless despite our ability. Most posters were telling me to shut up, as we were doing 'just fine'.

Things have clearly changed. Yesterday we could hardly have expected a footballing spectacle, but Stirling were effectively snuffed out of this game from beginning to end, largely because the boys have at last found belief inthemselves.

Stirling are a good side, but for some their total nihilisation doesn't seem enough!

It seems to me that instead of being fazed by expectations, at last we've developed that wee edge of arrogance that great sides always have.

Well done to JM and the backroom boys-you deserve credit for the transformation.
mortonjag 2007-01-21 11:28:25
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 21 2007, 11:19 AM) [snapback]224176[/snapback]

eh, stadium rolleyes.gif

Eh-what?

Even if we do have to ground share for a season, it wouldn't quite equate to the toils of a few hundred weary bumpkins trekking from (nearly) England to Motherwell, or further every week!
mortonjag 2007-01-21 11:36:12
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 21 2007, 11:01 AM) [snapback]224170[/snapback]

I agree that it is a bit anti-climatic today. My sons and I were in hospitality and I was looking forward to that game for weeks. I hope Jim can keep the players motivated as I am sure they probably have a similar feeling.

As to the game, it was not a classic - it never could be in those conditions - but we did more than enough and the score flattered Stirling. I thought we also looked as though we could step up a gear if required.

I'll be interested in the video of McAllister's goal to settle the offside argument. At the time I thought he was onside when the ball was played and that he and Millar sprung the trap perfectly. Its hard to be sure though from where I was sitting

From where we were sitting it was the gift of the season-Jimbo was fully a yard offside, and all around us were laughing and shaking their heads in disbelief. He even glanced over at the linesman before continuing his run in on the goalie, and that moment's hesitation gave Hogarth the chance to block the first shot.

After that the standside linesman gave us SFA, and Bobby Linn had an excellent opportunity spoiled when he was incorrectly given an (albeit marginal) offside decision against him.
mortonjag 2007-01-21 11:42:59
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 21 2007, 10:39 AM) [snapback]224165[/snapback]

Surely the best haggii have no e-numbers in them anyway?

Poetic licence nacho-you CAN actually get 'offal' good haggises still, but I find most of the plastic coated boys a bit bland.
mortonjag 2007-01-21 11:49:40
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jan 21 2007, 09:13 AM) [snapback]224150[/snapback]

The elixir of youth. Brewed with care, kept under the bed for months and quaffed with the care and concentration of a wine connoisseur. A must for those summers than never seemed to end.

Indeed TaunTaun-back in the days when 'rice' came out of the oven with a nice brown skin on it , and was full of raisins, and you fought with each other over the hough after the home made broth was ready.
mortonjag 2007-01-21 11:53:56
QUOTE(Mags @ Jan 20 2007, 11:19 PM) [snapback]224074[/snapback]

It's way too soon for that....
....Stirling's goal soon shut them up...!!
Mags.

Stirling's WHAT?


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mortonjag 2007-01-21 12:27:19
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jan 21 2007, 11:56 AM) [snapback]224197[/snapback]

'its better than a boot in the baws'
cracker laugh.gif

...'you couldn't lace his boots'.
mortonjag 2007-01-21 12:31:31 What was that bit about Gowser caressing Hogarth's balls-FFS what's the game coming to?
mortonjag 2007-01-21 12:56:42
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 21 2007, 12:41 PM) [snapback]224208[/snapback]

I thought the standside linesman was on a bonus he had his flag up that often . All I can say about Stirling is if that them going all out for the win , I would hate to see them defend.
I hope whoever the 1 st division team is in the play offs even if it is Airdrie that they will because the lack of an attacking threat is shocking . Could you imagine if Stirling go up with us it would be survival from the start , we all hope to see a much more compedative league next season where both teams go to win the matches .

That's a bit harsh IMO-we didn't give them a chance on the day, but it wasn't that long ago we visited Forthbank.

They are certainly missing their loan striker mind you! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-21 13:04:48 Hilarious Clinton's havin' a laff!
mortonjag 2007-01-21 13:07:36
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 21 2007, 01:03 PM) [snapback]224212[/snapback]

......I've read today and all the sites are crediting Cashmore with the goal. Surely it was a Mathers own goal as the header technically (and literally) wasn't on target.

Don't believe what you read in the papers-it was DEFINITELY the goal post that scored-OK it may have touched Mathers, but that goal post's no shirk when it comes to putting the ball in the net.
mortonjag 2007-01-21 13:21:27
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Jan 21 2007, 01:11 PM) [snapback]224217[/snapback]

Can't open the video as it's blocked. What is the video about?

It's the usual 'interviewer asking basic questions' game- how many sides has a triangle, name a country starting with letter U - what's the currency in the UK, and so on, and of course every interviewee is dumber than the previous one.
mortonjag 2007-01-21 13:27:37 then you get the contradictory ones

what you do in a hurry you can rue at leisure-procrastination is the thief of time

look before you leap-he who hesitates is lost

in for a penny, in for a pound-look after the pennies and the pounds will take care of themselves etc.
mortonjag 2007-01-22 13:24:50
QUOTE(lemmington @ Jan 21 2007, 03:20 PM) [snapback]224245[/snapback]

Piece of useless information,John Underhill is a geology professor. huh.gif

Do you know where-I'm curious.
mortonjag 2007-01-22 13:27:02 Thoroughly deserved this time JM-well done.
mortonjag 2007-01-22 13:31:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 21 2007, 03:07 PM) [snapback]224242[/snapback]

so, mortonjag, do you have a thing for goal posts as well as lamp posts ??

Please keep me posted.

I've never tried a goal post TBH-no need when lamp posts are so handy, and it's easier to see what you're doing! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-22 13:34:53
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 22 2007, 01:26 PM) [snapback]224411[/snapback]

I will chose the monkey, his name is Fred and he is a Capuchin, we just have to take his word for it that he saw the incident clearly.

My avator, and many other standsters were directly in line.

The little chap can confirm that JM was AT LEAST a yard offside, and even hesitated and glanced towards the linesman before he ran in on Hogarth.
mortonjag 2007-01-22 13:37:02 Great minds think alike and fools seldom differ!

He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day.

Charity begins at home

Necessity is the mother of invention

Familiarity breeds contempt-and children.
mortonjag 2007-01-22 13:39:33
QUOTE(edd @ Jan 21 2007, 04:25 PM) [snapback]224255[/snapback]

one of my mates overheard an american tourist talking to his wife on princes street (in edinburgh) saying, "isn't it quaint how they built the castle right in the middle of the city?"
so what you're saying is that they aren't thick, they're just ignorant ... that's worse, isn't it?

Guess it depends whether you're a fashion model or a teacher!
mortonjag 2007-01-22 13:53:24
QUOTE(WullTon @ Jan 21 2007, 06:46 PM) [snapback]224318[/snapback]

Well is it someones 30th birthday biggrin.gif?

It's bound to be-I'd guess the average Ton supporter is 30, so all you've got to do for a rough guide is divide our crowd by 365.

We will probably have a dozen or so there on their birthday.
mortonjag 2007-01-22 13:56:15 I'd rather try to forecast the next lottery winning numbers than this game-but I'll keep praying for a Ton victory.
mortonjag 2007-01-22 14:00:47 Might be something to do with the lassies not seeing 'Pop your cherry' as very lady like!

Ask 'When did you first have a satisfying sexual encounter with someone you respected'?
mortonjag 2007-01-22 14:12:08
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Jan 22 2007, 02:09 PM) [snapback]224433[/snapback]

We still wouldn't have any responses. tongue.gif

Judging by the ones on here, I agree! sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-22 14:18:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 21 2007, 01:01 AM) [snapback]224094[/snapback]

I object to the title of this thread ...

Mr Brown, Cockup

Would not Mr Brown - soft cock

... be more appropriate ???
ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

Cock up Gordon Brown
Cock up Gordon Brown
Cock up, cock up-poppycock and 'talk up'
COCK UP Gordon Brown. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-22 15:06:33 I held fire on this one, as I wasn't sure of my facts, but it's now evident that Dougie's yet again made a complete fool of himself. We all agree with his sentiments I'm sure, but bleating about being treated as second rate when you palpably ARE is just ridiculous.

I've said it before Dougie-you can't write English-use an editor like Jim and the others, or ask Arfur to write it for you.
mortonjag 2007-01-22 15:12:32
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 22 2007, 03:08 PM) [snapback]224459[/snapback]

James Traynor doesn't like Mr Rae it is not the first time he had a go and it will not be the last. Outwith the winner and the suns version, during the week there is rarely a mention of a team outwith the old firm, and if there is, there will be huge mistake in it unless its one of the few good jurnos.

Whether James Traynor likes or dislikes him should not matter. We don't need the old codger to point out the poor treatment the SFL gets in the papers, but if he self appoints as our spokesman Bryan, he should do us the credit of getting his facts right, and voicing them articulately.
mortonjag 2007-01-22 15:20:23
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 22 2007, 03:15 PM) [snapback]224465[/snapback]

No, not at all - he's a politician after all - but the way he's going about it is so hiliariously ham-fisted.

It's the footballing equivalent of the time William Hague sported a baseball cap.

FFS nacho- 'Don't be vague' had an excuse wi' that napper of his.

At least Bliar got me animated enough to hate the b*stard, but that reptile leaves me stone cold.
mortonjag 2007-01-22 15:29:07
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 22 2007, 03:16 PM) [snapback]224466[/snapback]

Here is a challenge buy the sun and record every day this week and compare the SFLs coverage and to the old firms...

Bryan, you're TOTALLY missing my point. All true Morton supporters find the coverage we get disgraceful.

Instead of using his privileged position as Club Chairman to write a well constructed argument to that effect, he's again made a laughing stock of himself.
mortonjag 2007-01-22 15:42:38
QUOTE(otter @ Jan 22 2007, 01:25 PM) [snapback]224410[/snapback]

Over the last few days I have seen two "Public Information" films on the telly.
Both these movies are aimed at telling you to "make sure that your house is secure" and not to "flaunt your expensive gear in public".

In the first film, you have a black couple showing a "dodgy" looking white guy around their house, telling him all the ways into their house, that the alarm system does not work and what they have in said house.

In the second film, you have an Asian gentleman telling a "dodgy" looking white guy (I can see a trend developing here can you?) that he has this s*** hot phone and that he is gong to leave it on the table when he goes for a pee or if he wanted he could jump him from the back outside later on.

I can see what these films are getting at, but could you imagine the outcry if the dodgy white guy was a dodgy black or Asian guy?

Phil.

The future's bright......

I don't think any of us should read too much into a couple of public information films TBH.

The totally disproportionate representation of ethnic minorities in ALL television has been with us for years. In some programmes, for example, you could almost believe that the NHS employs only a white minority.

It's not very subtle, and as such, we are able to see it for what it's worth.

Don't get your knickers in a twist.
mortonjag 2007-01-22 15:51:22
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 22 2007, 03:35 PM) [snapback]224476[/snapback]

And in some papers, when it does make it into the print run, it ends up like this:
MORTON extended their lead at the top of Division Three to 28 points on Sunday when Kevin MacGregor's goal saw off Dumbarton Athletic at Stark's Park. The ex-Motherwell man's diving header put the home side ahead after 30 minutes. Later, Chris Templeton missed a penalty from 25 yards.

Dougie obviously missed his vocation! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-22 15:56:35
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jan 22 2007, 03:46 PM) [snapback]224484[/snapback]

Was she pole-ish?

Or was he a wee bit bent?
mortonjag 2007-01-22 15:58:54
QUOTE(edd @ Jan 22 2007, 03:35 PM) [snapback]224475[/snapback]

i was about to post this:

"you mean the ignorance of hoi poloi is bliss - in greek, "hoi" is the definite article, so you shouldn't say the hoi poloi wink.gif"

and then decided to double-check to make sure i wasn't making a fool of myself and it turns out you are correct (except it should be polloi, not poloi) - even though it technically means "the the common people", "the hoi polloi" is apparently the correct english phrase to use ... how curious.

anyway, enough showing off from me tongue.gif on with the discussion ...

Loosely translated, 'The thick thrive on the thicker'.
mortonjag 2007-01-22 16:09:17
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 22 2007, 04:00 PM) [snapback]224502[/snapback]

Having re read the article it seems a well constructed argument and he could like SramTon states have got an edition with no coverage ....

The argument is entirely valid.

Unfortunately he got his facts wrong, and presented them in such a confused, confabulative diatribe, as to look an absolute prat, and James Traynor welcomed that with open arms.

With friends like that, who needs enemies? sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-22 16:12:37 IFs and BUTs

IF Forfar win every remaining match, they could end up champions.

Anybody from another club reading this stuff must think we're getting just a wee bit cocky. I'd prefer to take one game at a time.
mortonjag 2007-01-22 16:18:54
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 22 2007, 04:12 PM) [snapback]224509[/snapback]

It would be funny if his version had no sfl entrys in it laugh.gif and James Traynor had to say sorry laugh.gif . what is so wrong with Mr Raes article...

You CAN'T be serious Bryan-are you takin' the piss?

MR Rae, as you describe him, would do well to scrape a pass in O-level English with the stuff he churns out every week.

I normally find his rambling witterings quite entertaining, but when he chooses to throw down the gauntlet to tabloid journalism, he should have the sense to use an editor, or at least check his facts.
mortonjag 2007-01-22 16:23:46
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 22 2007, 04:06 PM) [snapback]224504[/snapback]

I interpreted it as meaning that she, like all other women, was into tipping the velvet. But I think she only said that to get a reaction from us. Just as well all of us men never think about girlies plundering each other's important little places.

TonInDublin

Lush has a bush? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-22 16:31:58
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 22 2007, 04:21 PM) [snapback]224513[/snapback]

Setting aside the Record argument whats so wrong with the rest of the press stuff, and i hope you don't have such strict review of my articles laugh.gif

Of course not-anything goes on the forum-but a two page spread in a £2 'rag' is different IMO.

How much does the Daily Ranger cost-and you don't HAVE to read the Monklands Guru?

I've said his argument is valid, but it's hardly breaking news. If he did want to draw special attention to the problem, he should have done MUCH better IMO.
mortonjag 2007-01-23 06:24:22
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 22 2007, 04:28 PM) [snapback]224521[/snapback]

To avoid any kind of racial grumblings of this nature, I think everyone on TV should wear a burqha.

... designed by Vandanel with alternate blue and white hoops, a 'Millions' logo on the front, and one on the back that proclaims 'Muslims unite in support of Morton'.
mortonjag 2007-01-23 06:26:53
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 22 2007, 05:53 PM) [snapback]224548[/snapback]

Haggis supper. If I wasn't seeing my food in reverse just now I'd go and get one.

Haggis suppers don't taste like real haggis, but they're damned good just the same.
mortonjag 2007-01-23 06:30:44
QUOTE(marxist_ton' @ Jan 22 2007, 06:17 PM) [snapback]224551[/snapback]

Always a stange one my grandparents would say to me as a wean when I was bad

"come here till I skelp you!"

Aye, i'll be right there huh.gif

or-'Wait 'til your father gets home'.

Actually we always preferred that to 'Bring the dog's lead', which always got the poor mutt excited-then disappointed as one of us got his arse tanned. sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-23 06:36:00
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 22 2007, 08:41 PM) [snapback]224639[/snapback]

if she has it fertilised regularly will it become lusher ?

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are there any gardeners in the house?

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Apparently Lush doesn't like me talking about the bush-describing my comment as 'crude', so you may be in a 'no go' area with the fertilisation plans.

I think it's actually a phantom bush-some sort of Holey Ghost I guess. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-23 06:38:59
QUOTE(Chris Davidson @ Jan 23 2007, 01:44 AM) [snapback]224726[/snapback]

Cos I've got an update!
I bought a packet of 'Lion' [ "Quality Confectinery since 1903" ] Licorice Gums from Morrison's last week. Expected the usual licorish taste (as in Licorice Allsorts), but, was stunned to find out that they are sugarally taste, something I hadn't experienced since I was a wee boy! Didn't you used to have to buy that stuff from a chemists?

Think I might stick some in a lemmy bottle with some good ole Scottish tap watter, in the cupboard below the sink and will report back in about a month...

p.s. Lions also make Butterscotch Gums - sounds amazing, can't wait to track them down!

p.p.s. "Skinned rice with raisins" Waaaaoow!!!!!!!!!!! How come fantastic things like that just seem to vanish from our lives?

Indeed-when I was a wee boy in the Port, my mum used to make 'mince patties', which were brilliant. I guess that was just a home made burger.
mortonjag 2007-01-23 06:40:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 23 2007, 02:55 AM) [snapback]224730[/snapback]

what does an incomplete fanny look like?

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A semicircle.
mortonjag 2007-01-23 06:48:20
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 22 2007, 06:03 PM) [snapback]224550[/snapback]

I thought Stirling looked nervous in the first half and we could easily have been 3 or 4 ahead. One of the reasons we weren't was lack of service from the wings. McGowan was on fire, taking up great positions and crying out for the ball to be played into the centre.

Finlayson saw more of the ball than anyone but wasn't able to create anything from it. I felt his articles in the press claiming he was due a starting place were a bit ill advised, we had won 7 in a row and he'd played his part coming off the bench against tired legs. JM possibly thought "okay, you've asked for a start, show me what you can do"

I felt Millar and Stevenson were shunted inside a bit and Millar especially wasn't sure whether to stay inside or move out wide. Keenan was the unfortunate one to lose out. I hope we go back to a holding midfielder (Keenan, McLaughlin or Walker) and play Millar wide right with Stevenson in centre-mid. Finlayson can then take his most effective role, coming off the bench.

I felt when Morton went in at half-time only one up, the nerves set in because of what's happened before in this type of decisive match. We then set back and gave Stirling hope they should never have had. I spoke to Chris Millar in the Norseman and he confirmed the players felt the tension of the occasion and were just desparate to get the 3 points.

The players worked hard and now seem to be able to scrap for a win. This was quite a scrappy win but that's unusual for Morton and probably the sign of League Champions.

Finlayson is always useless when he's forced to play out wide, and effectively operate as a winger. It's a shame, because he's actually far more direct than either Millar or Stevenson when he's allowed to play through the middle. Before the usual shouting match, I'm NOT saying he's more creative, or a better footballer, but sometimes we play lovely football all day, and see very little return. When Kev's running in on goal defences know something's going to happen, even if he doesn't get it right every time.
mortonjag 2007-01-23 06:53:34
QUOTE(Mick @ Jan 22 2007, 10:30 PM) [snapback]224690[/snapback]

Thought it was a good run from deep. Jim and Chris Millar did that a few times in the second half - if Stirling were pushing out then (given McNally is their centre-half and not the quickest) it's entirely possible that Jim's timed it really well. So, when he receives the ball, he's well (3 yards) beyond their defence....

Would be interested to see it again on gmfc.net (when is it going up?). For the monkey's sake, I hope it's conclusive.

If GMFC's camera has as accurate a view as Munx did, you will indeed agree.

As has been stated here and in the press, Jim was so surprised at hearing no whistle that he stupidly hesitated for a mini sec. and glanced over at that turd running the line. Had he not done that, he might have scored with the first attempt.
mortonjag 2007-01-23 07:00:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 22 2007, 06:28 PM) [snapback]224558[/snapback]

When will he learn?
Gidday Pat SharpTon,

He won't learn, mate.

Why should he ?

You cannot teach an old dog new tricks.

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And DDFR has always wanted his own way, since his first day at the old Academy in Nelson Street.

according to my aunt, who was a classmate.

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and that was 70+ years ago

When Dougie wore a white pointed cap with his initial on it. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-23 07:04:40
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jan 22 2007, 08:58 PM) [snapback]224642[/snapback]

Thanks for clearing that one up.

Loonball. tongue.gif

mm-you could have done MUCH better! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-23 07:09:09
QUOTE(SkinTON @ Jan 23 2007, 01:29 AM) [snapback]224724[/snapback]

Jim Traynor clearly still has an issue with Morton, stemming back to when he received dogs abuse from the fans at the Airdrie match a few years ago. The slating he got that day obviously still gets to him, and even though he comes across as if he couldn't care less, he clearly has a major chip on his shoulder.

He just couldn't help himself having a swipe at the club. He knows the team are performing well and the media coverage has been positive towards Morton over the past few weeks, and he simply couldn't wait to try and bring us down a notch. Unfortunately for us, Dougie has given him the bait just at the right time. I do believe Dougie has made some valid points, he just didn't construct his criticism in the right way or with proper justification.

I still don't think his slur against the press deserved to be a major part of Jim Traynor's collumn. To pick up on something like that, from a match-day programme, obviously proves that he was prowling about waiting for the opportunity to try and bring the club down just as we were deservedly being put in the limelight.

Jim Traynor is a poor mans Gerry McNee and I can't think of a better insult than that.

Bad publicity's usually better than none at all. Dougie made a bit of a fool of himself in getting his facts wrong, but it forced JT to indirectly highlight the issue, and I'm sure many other SFL supporters will have spotted that.
mortonjag 2007-01-23 08:47:50
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Jan 22 2007, 10:15 PM) [snapback]224681[/snapback]

Ahem, Morton play in Inverclyde puggsy dry.gif

Inverclyde's still in Renfrewshire though-or has Renfrewshire disappeared?

If you want to be completely safe you could just put

WE'LL WIN, and delete the apostrophe if the sad neccessity arises!
mortonjag 2007-01-23 09:49:34 Just a thought, do supporters of REALLY wee SFL clubs girn about this as much as we do-do the good people of Forfar break their hearts about it for example?

We are Morton, super Morton, and are playing below our rightful level-the solution is to achieve SPL status.

Even then of course, the media will still be hugely biased towards the OF, but to a large extent that is to do with advertising, and circulation issues. I thought we got more than a fair crack of the whip when we beat Killie, and I can still remember the Hal Stewart days, when we were rarely out of the headlines.
mortonjag 2007-01-23 09:55:56 Walker's the most creative, and a natural footballer.

McLaughlin reads the game extremely well, marks efficiently, and his tracking back is superb. Unfortunately his distribution is totally unimaginative.


Keenan's just 100% effort, 100% of the time, but he's a better player than many give him credit for, and this IS Division 2.
mortonjag 2007-01-23 10:11:18 The English are arrogant bastards.

The Welsh are effectively a secret sect who sing songs and sometimes speak English.

The Irish are as thick as the Americans but not as rich.

The Scots are the only true British Nation-well except those f*ckin' teuchters, Grampian sheep shaggers, clandestine Fifers, anglophile Borderers, and of course the Tattie howkers we just humped.

Dundonians come from another planet, and as for EDINBUGGERS-say no more.
mortonjag 2007-01-23 10:21:30
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 23 2007, 10:03 AM) [snapback]224769[/snapback]

Is this the same guy that has stated yesterday that wide right is his best postion...

Quite possibly Bryan-I've not suggested he's good at self assessment.

Weatherson's repeatedly said he's best at right back (but not in his local paper, where he said he'd agree to play anywhere just to get a game).

Finlayson was at his best at Stranraer-why don't you ask their fans what they think?
mortonjag 2007-01-23 10:47:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 23 2007, 10:36 AM) [snapback]224775[/snapback]

Gidday mortonjag,

I cannot remember the old proverb ...

A hand in the bush is worth ????

Half a bush is better than none ????

You've seen one bush, you've seen them all ????

Any bush in a storm ???
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A bird bit my hand as I blew on her bush

Half a bush is better than total alopecia

You've seen one bush, you're into them for life

Incidentally, I used to think of a 'bush' as a kind of wee tree-it was a pleasant word until we got neology and George (the super Fanny)!
mortonjag 2007-01-23 10:54:02 The all time classic

'Gonnae no dae that'!
mortonjag 2007-01-23 11:05:37
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 23 2007, 10:54 AM) [snapback]224785[/snapback]

Jesus lads - as they say in Chewin' The Fat - "you've taken that too far".

There's a fine line between innuendo and graphic detail !!!!
I'd suggest a retake of the training course "Double Entendres 101 - the art of offence free innuendo".

Apparently it's being taught by our resident doyen of that sort of thing, "Geordie, ooh, err missus, CHC"

TonInDublin

who undoubtedly designed your signature!

Graphic detail's-well- just a WEE bit more graphic I'd say.

I've recently started a wee topiary business, but I can't keep up with the number of clients wanting me to trim their bushes.

I say of my shears as Bridget from Anderston said of her legs, if I'd another pair, I'd open up in Edinburgh. mellow.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-23 11:13:38
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 23 2007, 11:09 AM) [snapback]224787[/snapback]

What about the lies you were told when you were younger,
Eat your greens and you will grow hairs on your cheat.
Eating your carrots improves your eyesite.
Both wrong.

Eating carrots can actually improve night vision, but I doubt if greens put more hair on your chest.

Fish makes you brainy-well there's some spurious evidence to suggest it might.

As for masturbation and blindness, I've been at the optician seven times in the last year.
mortonjag 2007-01-23 11:43:15
QUOTE(se65an @ Jan 23 2007, 11:32 AM) [snapback]224790[/snapback]

Greenock and surrounding towns (ie Inverclyde) are no longer within the Renfrewshire boundaries and have not been so for a few years now. Since the boundary change the post office has has said that people living in Inverclyde should no longer use Renfrewshire in the address and instead use Inverclyde.
If you look for instance just as you pass Finlaystone on the way towards Greenock you will see a Welcome to Inverclyde sign on the opposite side of the road facing towards Glasgow you will see a similar sign saying Welcome to Renfrewshire.
The argument that Morton play in the Renfrewshire cup is irrelevant, yes we are still members of the Renfrewshire FA but Dumbarton are members of the Stirlingshire FA, an Berwick Rangers are members of the SFL but that doesnt mean Berwick is in Scotland.
Renfrewshire is a thing of the past for Inverclyde now, and none of the old historic regions or boundaries can change that, not even Morton being members of the Renfrewshire FA, THANK FECK.

They've got no creativity-I know Inverclyde's a separate entity officially, but I'll always think of Greenock as being a Renfrewshire town.

Now if they'd called it Mortonshire, that would have shown some imagination, and we could rename the diddy cup too!
mortonjag 2007-01-23 13:08:23
QUOTE(se65an @ Jan 23 2007, 12:34 PM) [snapback]224805[/snapback]

Is that in the same way loads ignorant people in England and the rest of the world see Scotland as a region of England as opposed a country within the United Kingdom

Poppycock-Renfrewshire has a long and proud history while Inverclyde is a bureaucratic toddler. I was born and brought up in Renfrewshire, not bloody Inverclyde.

I fully understand and empathise with those of you who have only known it as the latter, and as you get older and we ancients die off the evolution will continue, but you can't obliterate cultural history with the stroke of a bureaucratic pen.
mortonjag 2007-01-23 13:15:58
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 23 2007, 12:16 PM) [snapback]224798[/snapback]

I am surprised you have not been to the docs as well for RSI.

I was actually, and when I explained my symptoms he asked my occupation.

When I mentioned banking he smiled somewhat ruefully, as he wrote the prescription.

I asked if it would take the pain away and let me resume my normal activities, and again he just smiled.

The chemist gave me a wrist splint! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-23 13:20:19
QUOTE(TBI1978 @ Jan 23 2007, 01:14 PM) [snapback]224813[/snapback]

Derek was released by the club last night ohmy.gif

Is THAT it? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-23 13:24:44 ..arrested under peeping Tom laws! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-23 13:30:33
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 23 2007, 12:14 PM) [snapback]224796[/snapback]

I saw a headline today and totally missed the double meaning
...

George W Ambush

how true it is.
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http://bulletin.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=161900

Among the presents I gave my daughter at Christmas was a tiny Bush radio.

I assure you it was just given in the festive spirit as a wee extra to hang in the shower or whatever.

Today, every time I think about it, I can't help laughing.
mortonjag 2007-01-23 13:34:19
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jan 23 2007, 01:23 PM) [snapback]224821[/snapback]

Act of Union 1707!

Poppycock - derived from the dutch 'pappe cak' - meaning soft s***!

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mortonjag 2007-01-23 13:35:12
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Jan 23 2007, 01:26 PM) [snapback]224823[/snapback]

But Westminster are trying to

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'Trying' being the operative word.
mortonjag 2007-01-23 14:52:42
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jan 23 2007, 02:23 PM) [snapback]224851[/snapback]

I guess it was probably inevitable as a result of Linn signing, although I would have liked us to keep 4 strikers "which is what you need to win championships" (copyright Sir. A. Ferguson). Being 12 points clear at this point in time probably helped in the decision as well. Gets his wages of the books as well I suppose....

Surely that will depend on the nature of the severance-unless he agreed to be released, he'll be entitled to compensation one way or another I'd imagine.
mortonjag 2007-01-23 14:57:09
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 23 2007, 01:52 PM) [snapback]224839[/snapback]

Fred has viewed the goal, and confirmed that Jim was definately onside when the ball was played. In fact I paused the video when the ball had travelled a yard from when McGowan had passed it, and Jim was still onside by this point.

Well 'Fred' definitely did not see it from the correct angle-as I stated before, the guys around us were bursting their sides laughing-we were directly in line with Jim AS THE BALL WAS PASSSED and he was WELL offside, AND knew it, hence the hesitation.
mortonjag 2007-01-23 15:01:29
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jan 23 2007, 02:34 PM) [snapback]224856[/snapback]

You can't beat a Haggis Supper, deep-fat frying brings out the real flavour in any food.

Actually isn't Inverclyde the Heart Disease Capital of Scotland?

Not as far as I recall-it's Monklands-the home of the Monks, and James Traynor!!! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-23 15:33:19
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 23 2007, 03:09 PM) [snapback]224872[/snapback]

I agree ohmy.gif with Willowman. It's a shame Del's gone but that's a bit of money saved, the league's as good as won, we have Brian Graham and Kenny McLean able to deputise if one of the top three forwards gets injured - let's just focus on wrapping up the league and re-evaluate in summer smile.gif

Surely if they've prematurely terminated his contract he's still entitled to compensation.

I don't see it so much as a money saving exercise-more a 'mutual consent' arrangement, whereby Del will get a lump sum, but the Ton will save in the long run-ASSUMING he was no longer of any value to us as a player.

God forbid, but two out of Sanny, Linn, and Gowser could be unavailable at the same time before the end of the season-that sort of thing's happened before.
mortonjag 2007-01-23 15:39:34
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Jan 23 2007, 03:36 PM) [snapback]224887[/snapback]

Maybe Stirling will sign him

Stranger things have happened, and I bet he'd score a fair few before the season's end.
mortonjag 2007-01-23 15:51:55
QUOTE(craigeton @ Jan 23 2007, 03:49 PM) [snapback]224894[/snapback]

Jim was 100% WELL onside AS THE BALL WAS PASSSED.

SEZ WHO! where did you get your information?
mortonjag 2007-01-23 16:26:08
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jan 23 2007, 03:13 PM) [snapback]224878[/snapback]

What are we capital of then? Unemployment?

Could be, those statistics change from year to year, but Monklands has a dreadful record for coronary heart disease, and last time I checked they were clear winners.
mortonjag 2007-01-23 16:29:24
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Jan 23 2007, 03:41 PM) [snapback]224891[/snapback]

ye couldnae beat that biggrin.gif
mince patties i remember well from my old Gibby Days.
Used to nick the Rhubbarb from old Broadstone Hospital and then sit out the back of the tenements in Lansbury St with a wee poke of sugar.

Then i would get belted for shouting up at the windae " maw, gonae gies a piece n tomato sauce "

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Dripping pieces were fantastic-very bad for you but we didn't know in those days, and couldn't afford butter anyway. Tripe and onions-very good for you-folk grue at the idea nowadays, tons of liver and kidneys in those days too.
mortonjag 2007-01-23 19:20:37
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 23 2007, 07:13 PM) [snapback]224977[/snapback]

Did anyone else hear Traynor on Radio Scotland last night? He tried to slag off Dougie Rae and Morton and Bill Leckie shot him down in flames, saying Morton are a great club and give great hospitality to reporters etc.

Slagging off Dougie's maybe one thing-they obviously don't like each other, and I'm afraid Dougie let himself in for it, but slagging off Morton-well just wait 'til next season IF Airdrie are still in division 1.

All things come to those who wait! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-23 19:26:35 Anybody remember kedgeree-I think they now serve it in some places as a posh side dish, but my Granny - who lived in Holmscroft Street - used to make it as a main meal with rice, stock, one egg, marg, seasoning, milk, and smoked haddock-delicious.
mortonjag 2007-01-23 21:57:20
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Jan 23 2007, 09:14 PM) [snapback]225027[/snapback]

Havent heard of that, anyone heard of Peas Meal ? or whatever its proper name is. My old granda used to eat it all the time, looked a mess to be honest.

Pease brose-I think it just means pea broth-we used to get that-it was OK if you were starving but not that nice.
mortonjag 2007-01-24 05:01:10
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jan 24 2007, 12:01 AM) [snapback]225073[/snapback]

I'll bring a few rolls of s***e paper, more annoyong for the stewards, y'see.

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The mind boggles! unsure.gif

Seriously Bob, did you see that a poor guy was accused of assault on a steward at an East Stirling game a while back-for throwing a toilet roll which struck him. There were no police in the ground, but they were summoned and he was charged. The case went to court, I think three times, but was eventually dismissed because the steward failed to turn up to give evidence.
mortonjag 2007-01-24 05:13:46 One poster says TBI1978's a reliable source-another says Donkey Dave is, and meanwhile Del plays in a closed door game against St Johnstone, whose park is a stone's throw from his house.

No smoke without fire perhaps.

Let's hope GMFC clarify this TODAY.
mortonjag 2007-01-24 05:44:46
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jan 24 2007, 05:11 AM) [snapback]225088[/snapback]

I wasn't serious although down the years rolls of bog roll being launched onto the park were part and parcel of Scottish Cup ties.

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Indeed-BTW I guess you must be working-I'm just up early as I've a busy day ahead, but since the board is quiet, what are your current thoughts on Kev Finlayson?

Every time I've seen him operate through the middle this season (which hasn't been very often), he's been a revelation, and I guess that's why he was so important to Stranraer. Then on Saturday he was stuck out wide again, and he just isn't the same guy there.
mortonjag 2007-01-24 05:53:03
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jan 23 2007, 11:46 PM) [snapback]225072[/snapback]

What kind of Burns Nights do you go to? I've never heard of toasting to the Queen on Burns Night...

Although he was a Mason, I suppose. So was Oscar Wilde.

Aye Oscar always had a queer kinda handshake.
mortonjag 2007-01-24 06:05:34
QUOTE(Waverley @ Jan 24 2007, 12:16 AM) [snapback]225074[/snapback]

Sugarally watter was awesome. Yes, you got the licorice from the chemist, quality stuff. The stuff from the sweetie shop just didn't do it.
Break it up into small pieces and drop it into a bottle of water, put it into a dark closet for a few weeks (I think) and let it "brew".
Talking about mince patties, how about mince and doughboys, dumpling, penny whoppers, lucky potatoes?

Lucky potatoes-the biggest 'con' of all time-basically a lump of candy covered in cinnamon which you had to maul your way through to claim your plastic toy.

My brother was totally 'sold' on them but he's always been anally retentive!

Another brother who now lives in Wemyss Bay says his favourite meal is still mince and doughboys, and he's eaten in some pretty nice places.

Waverley, talking of sweeties, can you remember Duncan's Easter eggs. They were on the scene long before those tacky Cadbury things and came in two chocolate covered fondant halves, oh, and Duncan's orange cream chocolate bars were MY all time favouite.

There was also a 'halfpenny caramel'-not the half sized penny one from McCowan's, but squarer, in a kind of bluish tartan wrapper and covered in chocolate.

Talking of sweetie shops, we used to collect rose hips in the summer, and our local confectioner paid us 3d a pound for them.
mortonjag 2007-01-24 08:02:18
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jan 24 2007, 07:42 AM) [snapback]225099[/snapback]

The butchers in Irvine, on Bank Street next to the old cinema, do great haggis. All fresh and in the proper skin bag.

Do you ever go to St. Andrews-there's a butcher there who devotes a whole window to a display of his home made haggises. Your best bet, as you suggest is to find a butcher who makes from a recipe you like.
mortonjag 2007-01-24 08:07:37
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jan 24 2007, 07:37 AM) [snapback]225097[/snapback]

My Mum used to make this, with the colouring from the haddock turning the rice yellow. The wierd thing is that its a traditional southern Indian dish, that's been amended with the haddock.

I make burgers for the kids - meat, mustard, breadcrumbs, red onions and coriander seeds. They love them.

My 'in thing' at the moment is savoury rice-I always use brown Basmati, and usually saffron as a colourant /flavour-just some onions, peas, and carrots and you're away. Different combinations of ginger, cumin, turmeric, and coriander mean it's never the same twice-extremely wholesome, and much lower in calories than you'd imagine.
mortonjag 2007-01-24 09:26:26
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jan 24 2007, 09:21 AM) [snapback]225107[/snapback]

So did Rabbie Burns, sure he was from Ayrshire...

His shakes were for a different reason!
mortonjag 2007-01-24 10:11:59
QUOTE(JohnTon @ Jan 24 2007, 09:51 AM) [snapback]225116[/snapback]

John Was Arrested For Possession Of Turhumanheaducken blink.gif blink.gif
wtf is Turhumanheaducken ohmy.gif

Turducken is a Yankee dish consisting of turkey, duck, and hen-usually made at festive seasons.

The human head bit is obviously a naughty addition by someone!
mortonjag 2007-01-24 10:31:29
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 24 2007, 09:32 AM) [snapback]225111[/snapback]

I'm pretty sure that at a "proper" Burns Night you're supposed to toast the health of the Monarch.

Haggis is so good. I had it on Sunday and I want it again now cool.gif

I love haggis too Nacho-the trouble is it is nutritionally VERY bad for you because of the saturated fat content, AND one average sized haggis has as many calories as four Mars bars.

Why is life so cruel? mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-24 10:39:18
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jan 24 2007, 10:35 AM) [snapback]225120[/snapback]

It wouldn't be very Scottish if it didn't clog your heart to f*ck.

Indeed! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-24 10:43:21
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 24 2007, 10:40 AM) [snapback]225122[/snapback]

I'd be willing to bet money that you three are all wrong.

You and your 5p bets again BH-cough up or shut up-what's the big story?
mortonjag 2007-01-24 10:53:39
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 24 2007, 10:46 AM) [snapback]225125[/snapback]

Who are you telling to shut up ya old bam? Anyway, time will tell, but any money I bet on this with those three is safe.

Didn't tell you to do anything-if you were only boasting about your irresponsible gambling habits-fine-but you make it sound like you're in the know when you obviously don't have a scooby. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-24 11:20:37
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 24 2007, 11:01 AM) [snapback]225127[/snapback]

How do you know I don't have a scooby? Fact is, I've been told he's been released by someone who I have no reason to doubt.

When the news is official you can apologise by purchasing me a haggis supper from a reputable chippy, none of yer cheap tat.

It's always the same with the rumour mongers-they get their rocks off with a statement like 'I've heard it from a source I've no reason to doubt', and then when it goes pear .shaped, 'That's never happened before'.

If you know it's A FACT why don't you just say so-otherwise I don't see the point of the post.

Oh and the reason I'm so narky is Benefits Agency Withdrawal Syndrome,

BAWS to you! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-24 11:24:17
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 24 2007, 11:14 AM) [snapback]225134[/snapback]

Are those vegetarian ones any better for you? I've had one, it's nothing like haggis but was decent in its own way.

Also, the pastie shop on Gordon Street in Glasgow sells Haggis Pasties ohmy.gif

The veggie ones are much better for your cholesterol profile (and heart), but they're still pretty high in calories, and taste pretty sh*te IMO.

Canny win! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-24 11:29:40
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Jan 23 2007, 10:07 PM) [snapback]225048[/snapback]

Federal Court Ruling from the Melbourne Age, Australia Friday January 12, 2007 (AP).

A seven year old boy was at the centre of a courtroom drama yesterday when he challenged a court ruling over who should have custody of him. The boy has a history of being beaten by his parents and the judge initially awarded custody to his aunt, in keeping with the child custodylaw and regulations requiring that family unity be maintained to the highest degree possible.

The boy surprised the court when he proclaimed that his Aunt beat him more than his parents and he adamantly refused to live with her. When the judge suggested that he live with his grandparents,the boy cried out that they also beat him.

After considering the remainder of the immediate family and learning that domestic violence was apparently a way of life among them, the judge took the unprecedented step of allowing the boy to propose who should have custody of him.

After two recesses to check legal referencesand confer with child welfare officials, the judge granted temporarycustody to the English Cricket Team, whom the boy firmly believes are"not capable of beating anyone".

... and don't use baseball bats anyway.
mortonjag 2007-01-24 11:31:32
QUOTE(Tom McB @ Jan 24 2007, 11:30 AM) [snapback]225139[/snapback]

The first two weeks in July?

Not dark.
mortonjag 2007-01-24 11:42:36
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 24 2007, 11:38 AM) [snapback]225142[/snapback]

It is a fact you old tadger. I expect a full apology for branding me a "rumour monger" as soon as this news is confirmed by the club.

If it IS A FACT I humbly apologise right now, and no doubt everybody else will be relieved to have a concrete answer.

Anyway I'm away to get my new motor-awful excited I am!
mortonjag 2007-01-24 14:31:36
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Jan 24 2007, 01:13 PM) [snapback]225170[/snapback]

Dr Cretin's got a new poncemobile

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mortonjag 2007-01-24 14:37:25
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 24 2007, 01:07 PM) [snapback]225168[/snapback]

I've got a Burns Night this Saturday for my Daughter's 21st (so much more classy than just going out and getting blootered...) and I'm going to use Mortonjag's alternative Address to the Haggis. Very funny and as a bonus it's a lot shorter than the original so the haggis will still be warm by the time it's served.
And no way will there be a "loyal" toast, unless it's to Independence. I think the toasting of the queen varies from dinner to dinner, but the solution is simply to stay seated - simple but effective in making your point. I did that at a couple of dinners in England and numerous dinners here in Scotland.

Fame at last-see and enjoy-BTW I've edited as I had used 'legislation' twice!
mortonjag 2007-01-24 14:46:04
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 24 2007, 02:35 PM) [snapback]225219[/snapback]

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i can put up with the neds, the teenies and the huns, but i've had enough of this guy.

bliss

Another one bites the dust! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-24 14:49:41
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jan 24 2007, 02:43 PM) [snapback]225223[/snapback]

lilleys gone but lilley scored a goal,
aint seen no proof that he's been put on the dole,
is it rumour we dont know, coz no fickin ficker will confirm it so.
Kept in the dark and fed on sh1te,
that'll be us Morton supporters alright.

AJC TON don't be silly
I just spoke to Derek Lilley
Asked if he's about to go
'Yes' he said and then winked 'No'.
mortonjag 2007-01-25 06:00:27
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Jan 24 2007, 03:09 PM) [snapback]225232[/snapback]

Or perhaps these are more of a likeness? Who knows?

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mortonjag 2007-01-25 06:04:03
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 24 2007, 08:24 PM) [snapback]225327[/snapback]

he's definitely away.

So are you I gather-hee hee! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-25 06:13:01 Has it occurred to anybody that DDFR may genuinely be losing it a little. He's essentally a good guy, but seems to be getting more eccentric by the minute.

Given that he's probably kicking eighty, the old grey cells will already have taken some pounding.

Do we have to wait for him to do a striptease on the centre circle before somebody arranges a consultation for him?
mortonjag 2007-01-25 06:39:36
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Jan 24 2007, 09:37 PM) [snapback]225341[/snapback]

Haggii or haggisses? unsure.gif

Both look odd.

Neither-Chambers dictionary-the best for Scottish words doesn't even venture a plural, so by common usage 'hagises' is correct. (cf penises).

The word derives from middle English sad.gif , and possibly before that from French (haguer)- to cut up-or hack I presume.
mortonjag 2007-01-25 06:43:10 Robert.
mortonjag 2007-01-25 06:51:08
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Jan 24 2007, 04:46 PM) [snapback]225270[/snapback]

Spot on!! The 3rd division is lucky if it pulls in 2,000 across an entire Saturday's games. Would those 2,000 people really expect a big spread on their game watched by 2 or 3 hundred at the expense of another game that may have had 2,3,4 or 5 thousand at it? My problem's with the broadsheets - they're the ones that have the space but dedicate it instead to crap minority sports like rugger.

That's a twisted argument, but hardly surprising.

Moan, moan, girn, girn-'the WEE clubs' don't get enough coverage, but those NASTY broadsheets dedicate space to 'crap minority sports'.

-or were you just tongue in cheek?

Football is NOT the only sport in this country, and the broadsheets are doing a service for the rest-UNLIKE the soccer obsessed tabloids.
mortonjag 2007-01-25 06:51:26
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Jan 24 2007, 04:46 PM) [snapback]225270[/snapback]

Spot on!! The 3rd division is lucky if it pulls in 2,000 across an entire Saturday's games. Would those 2,000 people really expect a big spread on their game watched by 2 or 3 hundred at the expense of another game that may have had 2,3,4 or 5 thousand at it? My problem's with the broadsheets - they're the ones that have the space but dedicate it instead to crap minority sports like rugger.

That's a twisted argument, but hardly surprising.

Moan, moan, girn, girn-'the WEE clubs' don't get enough coverage, but those NASTY broadsheets dedicate space to 'crap minority sports'.

-or were you just tongue in cheek?

Football is NOT the only sport in this country, and the broadsheets are doing a service for the rest-UNLIKE the soccer obsessed tabloids.
mortonjag 2007-01-25 09:33:23
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jan 25 2007, 09:17 AM) [snapback]225382[/snapback]

Agree that there may be some slippage. I mean why would anybody in their right mind put their money into a football club these days ? Any sane individual
realises that it's not a viable 'investment' and almost anywhere else is a safer bet. So ,I agree - he's nuts,

Of course he might be in it for the kudos and glory of being Chairman of Morton. Just imagine the buzz from all that power........ hey , you get to step onto the pitch from time to time and get to say a few words to all your underlings. I've sussed him now - he's a loonball megalomaniac.
The fact that we have only moved up the Divisions , improved the stadium, and brought some belief back to Cappielow since he took over......... is purely coincidental.

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...point taken, but I still think the cracks are starting to appear!
mortonjag 2007-01-25 12:39:49
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Jan 25 2007, 11:40 AM) [snapback]225407[/snapback]

Dr Cretin seems keen to have old Doogie committed. A waste of time good doctor as I reckon that Doogie's fortune's tied up safe and sound.

Guess you were speaking to him at your therapy session this morning. Mind you he's good for you-at times you sound ALMOST sane.
mortonjag 2007-01-25 12:45:12
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Jan 25 2007, 12:03 PM) [snapback]225413[/snapback]

In the best interests of being pedantic, I do not believe the club and Jim have lied. As far as it is currently understandable, Lilley has not been released by the club. St. J may be interested in taking him and the arrangements may still be being negotiated. A deal may be struck before the end of the transfer window, but that has yet to be agreed and therefore he is still currently a Morton player.

If any of this makes sense can someone explain it back to me?

tongue.gif ScotinBelgie

Why can't all those rumour mongers simply say they believe GMFC and Del have been discussing his future. That can be interpreted in any way you like, and I guess it's the nearest statement to the truth at present.
mortonjag 2007-01-25 12:47:39
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Jan 25 2007, 12:43 PM) [snapback]225425[/snapback]

I don't need therapy - the aliens are coming to save me - I'm one of the chosen ones. My head hurts.

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mortonjag 2007-01-25 12:51:12
QUOTE(Vialli_No7 @ Jan 25 2007, 12:24 PM) [snapback]225421[/snapback]

I dont want him either. I'm just saying he's without a club as he keeps turning down clubs that are "too wee for him"

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but then again to be fair, being a Doctor, he does have something to fall back on.

What, his hyperinflated ego. If he falls back on that, there's going to be an almighty explosion.

Apparently today's dish in his wee Bistro is poached eggs.
mortonjag 2007-01-25 13:00:02
QUOTE(Jackie @ Jan 24 2007, 04:18 PM) [snapback]225255[/snapback]

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mortonjag 2007-01-26 06:09:39
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 25 2007, 01:37 PM) [snapback]225447[/snapback]

I'd suggest that it doesn't have a unique plural, much the same as 'sheep' for example.

In etymological terms, that could well be correct, though the fact that Chambers dictionary doesn't specify a variation from the norm probably makes it hagises.
Almost all words ending in 'is' are of Latin origin, but as I said Haggis is a corruption of an older word-originally the French 'haguer'-hence hagues or 'cuts' (of offal etc.), presumably became haggis, so half a dozen bags full would still just be hagues or haggis, and not necessarily hagises.
mortonjag 2007-01-26 06:12:58 My advice is to spend an hour or so with two or three search engines.

My most recent experience is that Confused are best, and they put me on to More than, but because of your age (and you haven't specified your car), you might just do better elsewhere.
mortonjag 2007-01-26 06:25:31
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 25 2007, 10:22 PM) [snapback]225519[/snapback]

That was my point that Temps is the phenoix from the flames but would you take Deuchar who as a doctor can be less than focused solely on his football career .

I think there's a contradiction there chrissiboi-I agree he has a comfortable living awaiting him, but he's effectively given that up right now to concentrate on football.

As others have suggested, it looks more like him having a false impression of his ability, and of course his agent's trying to make the most of this too.

Reality will dawn sooner or later for the big eejit.
mortonjag 2007-01-26 06:35:35 Lilley's entitled to be brassed off. He's done nothing wrong, and is still a damned good player at this level. Probably the signing of Bobby Linn finally convinced him that JM is so obsessed with building a young team that he's effectively become surplus to requirements.

I feel sorry for him-some of you are suggesting he produced nothing this season-that is mince. When we were going through that bad spell he came on game after game and gave 100%, but nobody was there to link with him.

Anyhow I hope for him he goes, and mark my words, I would not be at all surprised to see him knocking in a few in the FIRST division next season.
mortonjag 2007-01-26 07:27:14 Andrew Flintoff had won the toss and elected to bat-that's one of those word collections with various combinations-e.g.

Andrew had won the bat and elected to toss Flint off, or

Flintoff-the 'Toss' had won, and elected to bat Andrew, or

The bat-Andrew- won, and Flint elected to toss off.

A bit manic this morning! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-26 08:31:54
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 26 2007, 07:31 AM) [snapback]225560[/snapback]

This is what I'm sayin...who said Lilley was brassed off? Speculation.

Colkitto! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-26 08:34:48
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jan 26 2007, 08:01 AM) [snapback]225564[/snapback]

Just a thought but Paul McGowan scored far more goals earlier in the season when Lilley was in the team.

I do hope this is not all confirmed yet and Lilley stays for next season.

Although I have heard that Celtic don't want McGowan back as he wouldn't even feature in their reserves (Riorden, Millar, Beattie, Zurawvski, V of H, Maloney etc not to mention any other fringe players).

That would leave him free to find a club with Morton in a good position to offer him a deal. Obviously if this is true and McInally thinks we will keep McGowan then makes sence to get Lilley off the wage bill.

My source re: the McGowan rumour is pretty well connected however untested at the moment so time will tell if it all materialises.

It's a funny argument that they don't want him back just because he wouldn't feature in the reserves. More likely they feel he hasn't yet quite fulfilled their expectations, albeit great for us.
mortonjag 2007-01-26 08:39:35 Cowdenbeath 'owe us' one, and will go all out to down us. I HOPE they try to play decent open football but doubt it.

Back to the grind lads, with your minds on this one game. The cup's just a bonus at the moment.
mortonjag 2007-01-26 08:42:49 WDE has been in a crash. Charge-driving with undue care and attention, and had his laptop confiscated.
mortonjag 2007-01-26 08:50:41
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jan 26 2007, 02:40 AM) [snapback]225538[/snapback]

Remember what days? When silly wee boys that only turn up to the Cup or 'big' games act like total fannys? Or are you talking about something else?

See you've been downloading again SH-naughty boy!
mortonjag 2007-01-26 09:33:27 [attachmentid=2643]
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jan 26 2007, 09:23 AM) [snapback]225582[/snapback]

I am 22 next month, been driving since 17. Got a 206 4 years ago and for cheapness my dad was the policyholder and I was named on it.

I had an accident last year which was not my fault, and I really grudge insurance companies who ask for this info. Don't see why they should discriminate against me as someone rammed into the back of me.

Just bought a Civic 1.4 and going to go it alone - Direct Line have so far been the best at 593 gbp's. That is with no bonus or anything. But hopeful to build up a no claims etc and as I get a bit older the premiums should come down each year.

Confused was about 800 quid!!

As WDE says - insurance is a total scam but it's the law and all that. You never think you are going to have an accident, then it happened to me last year. The other guy ran into me at the scene of an accident - Had to pay a 450 excess and let the insurance companies sort it out. I think he was looking at the other mangled cars at the side of the road.

Took about 3 months before I got the money back!

Was really angry at the time as there was nowhere near 450 quids worth of damage but he claimed 1st so couldn't even say to him just to get it fixed.

I have a bit of time so will keep my eyes peeled to see if I can't get closer to 500 quid. More Than and Insure and Go sites didn't work so might need to give them a call.

You'll have to be patient.

Firstly, you've not stated whether you were seen as 'to blame'- even though you made a claim.

Secondly, you can vary your premium quite a bit by refusing all the 'add ons' like legal cover, accident cover etc., and if your mileage is not going to be that high you can specify that too.

The size of excess you're willing to accept is always a bit of a gamble, but if you're DESPERATE to get the lowest outlay now, accept the highest excess they'll offer.

Once you're satisfied that you've done as well as you can, 'phone the second lowest, and tell them the quote you've got from the lowest-as you said at the start, it's a bit daunting but don't let them off with anything.

Try insuring THIS!

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mortonjag 2007-01-26 09:40:30
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jan 26 2007, 09:34 AM) [snapback]225587[/snapback]

Once again, I've got no idea what you're on about?

Once again, it seems you can't think laterally, or are just being obtuse.

Do you want me to explain? sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-26 10:35:01
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jan 26 2007, 09:55 AM) [snapback]225591[/snapback]

Like I've said the claim was settled in my favour and I really grudge this info being taken.

MoreThan have just said they would not insure me as I have had an accident (even though I was helpless to prevent it!!).

Insure and Go was 1600 quid!!

Canny be arsed any more - just gonney stick with Direct Line.

I really know how you feel, but don't let the bastards grind you down. Have a rest and go back to it is my advice-after all it's your MONEY.
mortonjag 2007-01-26 10:38:45
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jan 26 2007, 09:51 AM) [snapback]225589[/snapback]

I'd rather you didn't. You're probably being acute. wink.gif

A cute what? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-26 10:40:02
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 26 2007, 10:32 AM) [snapback]225609[/snapback]

Anyone wearing kilts to the Motherwell game? I'm considering it has my kilt is mainly blue with a hint of yellow and red

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mortonjag 2007-01-26 17:49:27
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jan 26 2007, 12:31 PM) [snapback]225645[/snapback]

Not sure that this is a fair comment Mortonjag, after all he did sign Mathers and tried to sign Grady. I really dont think it is Derek's age that has put him down the pecking order - I just think Jim thinks we have better (more effective) forward at the club. Wether he is right or not i shard to say, but you cant really argue with the results of late.

I didn't word that very well, I agree- I just feel that persisting with McGowan in EVERY game, irrespective of his form, followed by the signing of Linn was hardly giving out positive vibes to Del.
mortonjag 2007-01-27 07:14:16
QUOTE(McCauley87 @ Jan 26 2007, 09:11 PM) [snapback]225821[/snapback]

Well I'm currently taking lessons with John Montgomery and he is good. I like his style of teaching it's quite a laid back approach.

Maybe that's not exactly what the young lady has in mind. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-27 07:16:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 27 2007, 01:18 AM) [snapback]225892[/snapback]

Fanny Hill ?

John Thomas.
mortonjag 2007-01-27 07:17:58
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 27 2007, 03:41 AM) [snapback]225912[/snapback]

Christian extremists are easily the equal of Muslim extremists. Difference is that we all know about Jesus.

All religion should be scrapped and I'm pretty sure God would agree with me.

I do.
mortonjag 2007-01-27 07:23:27 20's - got married
30's - got weans
40's - got bored
50's -got divorced
60's - havin' a ball for the first time in my life.
mortonjag 2007-01-27 07:32:38 Apart from Paul Mathers, and goalkeepers are a 'one off' when it comes to age, it seems to me that the McInally philosophy of bringing youngsters through (like Matt Busby) is beginning to pay off.

We struggled for a while because of inexperience but now seem to have genuine belief- and the Killie game has reinforced that.

Barring a complete disaster we are now promoted, so why sign an ageing forward when we've just released one?

Mind you, come the start of next season, I'd still like to see one seasoned midfielder captaining the squad.
mortonjag 2007-01-27 07:36:59
QUOTE(marx @ Jan 27 2007, 04:26 AM) [snapback]225917[/snapback]

What the f*** are the last few posts!

Anyway f*** Kenny we don't need him.

That lot might if he's got any experience in STD! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-27 07:40:10 I'm praying for a decent game but Beath now need points and will undoubtedly settle for a draw.

I'm predicting a stuffy uninspiring game, with us snatching one late goal, as likely as not from a defender.
mortonjag 2007-01-27 07:49:38
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken's Love Child @ Jan 27 2007, 02:51 AM) [snapback]225905[/snapback]

Maybe, but i can gather that he was a good player due to the high regard he is held in by people throughout the game, not just within our club. I didn't mean any comment i made to be a personal slight on him - he's always looked to be a good professional and gives plenty of effort - i just gave my tuppence worth on his departure, which i don't think on the grand scale of things is too bad a thing for both player and club.

In my opinion, Lilley has played more effectively for us this season than Sanny did last year.

I'm not going to start getting into JM again when we're doing just fine, but I sincerely believe Del is another victim of at times bizarre team selections, and I do NOT believe his career is over yet.

Incidentally SALC, when he played in that great Morton team alongside the other two Del's (Collins who went to Hibs, and McInnes-Rangers), McGraw was quoted as saying, 'When Lilley's motoring, Morton are motoring'.

He has certainly lost some of the old pace, but others will still know how to get the best from him.
mortonjag 2007-01-27 08:12:42 Every single second division match today could end in a draw, and a £1 stake Canadian (£26 total bet) -looking at Hill's odds would return several thousand pounds.

I wonder.. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-27 08:20:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 27 2007, 08:10 AM) [snapback]225936[/snapback]

Gidday mortonjag,

You are SO young, mate.

Did I read somewhere that 70 is the new 40?

huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif

Good morning good Sir-the weather here is s***e, and you've probably got lovely sunshine. My ONE big regret is that I did not emigrate-as I easily could have done after graduation.

Anyhow-to my point-I'm off to watch the TON play cowdungbreath today in my new motor. Then back for a crackin' Glesca curry from the Turban Tandoori in Giffnock, and a cosy night in with the new 'missus'.

Growing old is just a case of mind over matter-if you don't mind-it doesn't!!

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mortonjag 2007-01-27 08:27:31
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 27 2007, 08:18 AM) [snapback]225939[/snapback]

Waste of £26.

Damn!--oh what were the results by the way?
mortonjag 2007-01-27 08:33:24
QUOTE(mfc_millar_mfc @ Jan 27 2007, 08:28 AM) [snapback]225942[/snapback]

Cowdenbeath 1 - 3 Morton

Scorers - Templeman, McGowan and Linn

Attendance - 1612 laugh.gif

1612-a famous year when England beat Portugal


(in the battle of SWALLY) !!!
mortonjag 2007-01-27 08:38:06
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 27 2007, 08:35 AM) [snapback]225946[/snapback]

The low attendance I reckon is due to the £18 a ticket at Motherwell next week.

..and the population of Cowdenbeath-albeit much larger than that of Gretna.
mortonjag 2007-01-27 08:59:32
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 27 2007, 08:39 AM) [snapback]225948[/snapback]

Good days and bad days like the Hutt says but mostly I regret not doing more with my youth when I had the chance. I'm 23 and feel like I missed out on some stuff; however I've made up for it in many ways.

Overall I count myself very lucky and there's still time to do what I wanna do, so... my answer is 50% biggrin.gif

'I'm 23, and regret not doing more in my YOUTH'.

Christ man, yer jist oot yer nappies-lighten up FFS! rolleyes.gif

mortonjag 2007-01-27 09:01:00
QUOTE(lemmington @ Jan 27 2007, 08:54 AM) [snapback]225949[/snapback]

Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaae chance.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaalways a chance!
mortonjag 2007-01-27 09:03:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 27 2007, 08:16 AM) [snapback]225938[/snapback]

Thank God for that.

Your thanks is acknowleged. God will get back to you.
mortonjag 2007-01-28 08:13:17
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jan 27 2007, 05:02 PM) [snapback]226102[/snapback]
did ye waste yer money then ? rolleyes.gif

Not quite-I got two draws, and the Alloa one was damned close-I'll get half of it back-anyhow I don't bet a lot so what the hell!
mortonjag 2007-01-28 08:26:08
QUOTE(Capuan @ Jan 28 2007, 12:39 AM) [snapback]226170[/snapback]
I thought it was quite disappointing today to see McInally substituting big Temps when we were going for a winner. In my opinion he is much more of a goal threat that McGowan and Linn who play very similar games. I'm not having a go at either of the afore-mentioned two but playing both together against a cowdenbeath team who seemed content to stick every man behind the ball in the second half seemed ineffectual. Both had good chances to win the game for us but failed to finish.

At this stage in the season we've really got to be keeping one eye on the bigger picture - ie. next season. McGowan isn't going to be here and I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for us to sign another striker. So the plain and simple truth is that in the intermediate/long term our strike force will be Templeman and Linn, two players who IMO would complement each other well. So when is Jim McInally going to realise this and consign McGowan to the bench for a spell?

IMO McGowan has spent far more time on the pitch than he's deserved to the detriment of others. He's a great wee player, and has a good attitude, and JM clearly values that, but he IS NOT and incisive striker like Linn, nor can he hold the ball up like Sanny (OR Del for that matter).

The funny thing is that in many ways he's quite like Stevenson and Millar, in that he likes to play from deeper, and you rarely find him 'in the right place at the right time' up front.

JM has been extremely reluctant to rest any of his midfielders this season, and I'd put McGowan in that category.

In terms of pure excitement and potential goal scoring, Bobby Linn really looked the part in the last twenty minutes yesterday. I just wish he'd played the full game.
mortonjag 2007-01-28 08:32:46 It was an absolute disgrace, but the ones ON the motorway were lucky.
We left the Glasgow Uni area at 1.15, and every single on ramp was closed right over to Townhead with huge queues, and folks having to double back in despair. Not a f*cking policeman or traffic warden in sight.

We eventually got on to the motorway at 3.10-almost 2 hours to cover a couple of miles.

Anyway we went for broke and got in just before the start of the second half-and those bastards still charged us £5 each!
mortonjag 2007-01-28 08:38:22 Just a comment about the Bobby Linn incident-agreed his first touch wasn't great, but EVEN THEN he forced two very good saves from the keeper. Every striker does this now and again on a 'one to one' with the goalie-I'd hardly describe it as 'failing his first real task in a Morton shirt'!
mortonjag 2007-01-28 08:48:27
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 28 2007, 03:14 AM) [snapback]226188[/snapback]
It's not passing me by but I can state categorically that the best days of my life were five years ago when I spent a fortnight in Gran Canaria with the guys who were good mates at the time but ended up my best mates. Still haunted by the girl I loved and lost that year though. She's a bit horsey now mind you, maybe it was a lucky escape.
Was it f***. Being nice costs you people. Don't do it.

The secret is learning how to be 'nice' the right way-oh and getting to bed at a decent time. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-28 09:00:12
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 27 2007, 10:04 PM) [snapback]226155[/snapback]
Every now and again we seem to have matches where we just don't seem to have anyone who is a real finisher. Today was one of those occasions but there have been others - the 0-0 with Ayr, the first Stirling game, the 1-1 with Forfar. I'm not sure what causes it but even in matches we win we seem to need a lot of chances to score one.

Today was a game we really should have won by quite a few although you can't win them all and no real harm done.

On another subject, I thought that McInally made a tactical switch which changed the game when it clearly was not working after about 20 minutes, we went from 4-4-2 to 3-5-2 with Spoonsy going to central mid. That worked a treat and we dominated from then to the end.

Finally and just a thought, if we draw all our away games and win our home games from now until the end of the season we will have 80 points. To beat that, Stirling would have to win 12 out of their remaining 13 matches and they are the only team who could beat it.

You and your bloody statistics again. rolleyes.gif

It's not that long since I was getting 'dogs' abuse for daring to make the point you've just highlighted, and to some degree it's correct still. What has DEFINITELY changed is that we are no longer losing our way and letting others back into games. They didn't get a real sniff of goal in the second half yesterday, and it was a convincing moral victory.
mortonjag 2007-01-28 09:10:00 I think what sickens most posters about 'privileged information' being disclosed is the apparent motivation.

I have no objection to somebody saying, for example, 'I have been given this information by......., and he has stated I am at liberty to make it public.

What gets on my tits is the palpable self indulgence of the 'Lilley' sort of exercise which is then portrayed as some kind of public service.

As for the ones that prove false-well I suppose-whatever turns you on! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-29 09:15:07
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 28 2007, 10:52 AM) [snapback]226223[/snapback]
Hook line and sinker. smile.gif
As above.
You're a cock.

And you don't turn me on! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-29 09:23:13
QUOTE(only_1_paul_mcgowan @ Jan 28 2007, 11:03 AM) [snapback]226225[/snapback]
u say mcgowans spent more time on the pitch than he's deserved is that maybe because he's the top goal scorer? mortonjags correct when he says paul likes 2 play deeper bcoz pauls best position is playing in the hole behind the strikers

He went for over two months without a single goal, before the Killie match, and is only top scorer because the goals have come from everywhere all season. Linn will overtake him fairly soon IMO.
mortonjag 2007-01-29 09:26:19
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 28 2007, 09:58 AM) [snapback]226204[/snapback]
I've had this intemittent problem with my keyboard for months now but as I've been away it was no big deal.

What sometimes happens is that several of my buttons don't work.

BN and the space bar are some of the ones.

After a while they work again but it's rather frustrating.

Anyone any idea what the issue is ??

Tesco are seeling new keyboards for six or seven quid.
mortonjag 2007-01-29 09:33:42
QUOTE(Rossco @ Jan 28 2007, 03:37 PM) [snapback]226321[/snapback]
Had to change tyre yesterday & have alloy wheels the spare doesnt have alloy wheels.

Does anyknow how much roughly it will cost to get a tyre put on the alloy wheel.

Have been told motacare is probably the cheapest but am looking for rough cost of this.

There are tyres and tyres-what do you want-a brand name like Michelin or Dunlop- a grade 1 tyre at an intermediate price, or a budget tyre?

If your alloys are for show and you're a conservative driver get a budget tyre-if you're a girl racer you can get intermediates that are just as good as the brand names.

If another tyre is well worn for example, you could try a deal on 'two for one' or similar, and remember you should have the same type of tyre on each axle (not necessarily the same front and rear).

The longer you spend on line/'phone, the better deal you'll get.
mortonjag 2007-01-29 09:38:15
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 28 2007, 08:35 PM) [snapback]226434[/snapback]
Atheism must make sense to all now.

You'll roast in hell my boy!
mortonjag 2007-01-29 09:57:10 I wish people would stop agreeing with me-it defeats my raison d'etre and I've just kicked the cat for the first time in ten minutes. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-29 11:03:07
QUOTE(cammy @ Jan 29 2007, 10:46 AM) [snapback]226497[/snapback]
With Paul signing for another 2 years at Celtic and being on loan to us till the end of the season, and with Morton going into the 1st div (hopefully not counting ma chicks yet), what are the chances of Paul playing at Morton again for another season as I think next season he'll not be needed at Celtic's first team or their reserves, also Paul says he's loving play first team action with Morton in front of 3000 fans rather than 50 - 60 fans when he's at Celtic, what your thoughts on this??????????

C'mon Ye Ton

How long is a piece of string?
mortonjag 2007-01-29 11:07:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 29 2007, 10:11 AM) [snapback]226484[/snapback]
if you're a girl racer you can get
Is Rossco a burd ?

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Pardon my slip! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-29 11:16:56
QUOTE(foxy @ Jan 29 2007, 11:14 AM) [snapback]226510[/snapback]
twice the length from the centre to the end laugh.gif laugh.gif

So a piece of string is circular or spherical? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-29 11:20:58 Why don't they just blast the sun out of the sky-you know true Iraq style-that'll sort the old funball out.
mortonjag 2007-01-29 11:56:05
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 29 2007, 11:42 AM) [snapback]226528[/snapback]
couldn't agree more, but you goin to not quote him when you reply? the ignore option doesn't block quotes in other people's posts.

cheers

Vive la revolution indeed Napoleon-now you're ordering other people about-vive Madame Guillotine!
mortonjag 2007-01-29 12:36:59 Surely the only advantage of a completely new forum would be proof that it was much more efficient. I doubt if it would attract a 'new' type of Ton supporter.

In fairness there have been innumerable frustrations with the site recently, but it may be wise to assess the new format and server before going for broke.

Mind you, we could all tell Dougie Rae this is to be a 'Broadsheet', and not the existent tabloid rag, and he might even supply an inaugural address.
mortonjag 2007-01-29 12:48:02 NIALL MULLIGAN-Aye right, mither was a teuchter, and his faither came over to work down the Fife mines.

Herald, you have scraped the bottom of the barrel.
mortonjag 2007-01-29 12:53:12
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 29 2007, 12:20 PM) [snapback]226543[/snapback]
Is that a direct quote from him, DM? If so, that's awesome - I had no idea. I'd love to see him back next season (assuming he keeps developing as he has been doing.)

Yes, he IS turning into quite a big boy!
mortonjag 2007-01-29 14:05:58
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ Jan 28 2007, 04:19 PM) [snapback]226347[/snapback]
That sounds about the limit of Ian Durrants vocabulary skills.

How very sad.

JB.

I'd have described it as terse, accurate, and eloquent!
mortonjag 2007-01-30 06:16:59 One thing's for sure-they won't kick us off the park. We do best when we are underdogs and are allowed to play football. This is FAR more difficult for Malpas than for us. Does HE try to contain US and hit on the break (funny concept I agree), or does he take the game to us and risk falling victim to the Killie scenario.

I've got a damned good feeling we'll get a replay at least.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 06:23:34 It's a very unbalanced question. McGurn is possibly sharper than Mathers in certain aspects of his play but there's no substitute for experience which is why Paul was signed.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 06:36:42
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jan 29 2007, 04:21 PM) [snapback]226724[/snapback]
i seem to remember reading one of the many articles after the Killie game which he stated that he had to convince his wife into letting him come down here in the first place as she was against it - believe he used wording along the lines of 'she said she would put up with it for 6 months just so i can get a medal' so this gave me the impression he wouldn't be here next season.

Really hope he is as, and i've said this before, he has been McInally's best signing as manager.

What a poor little mouse he is-only plays football on a Saturday to get rid of his pent up frustrations and the chance to shout at somebody without getting a bat in the mouth.

Mind you now that good Mrs Mathers is in receipt of better wages and buckshee sweeties for the weans, she'll maybe change her mind.

If not Paul, I can recommend a really sharp 'family' lawyer.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 06:39:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 29 2007, 02:38 PM) [snapback]226632[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

because if they missed, the global embarrassment would be too much for even Dubya ??

huh.gif huh.gif

They NEVER miss-God is on their side, and he's in charge.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 06:43:22 Poor wee Georgie Porgie-RIP indeed.

He NEVER did what anybody told him, and even now some eejits are trying to correct a corpse!
mortonjag 2007-01-30 06:51:57
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 29 2007, 05:22 PM) [snapback]226787[/snapback]
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 28 2007, 05:53 PM)
Have to change my condom.

It's getting worn.

Does anyone know how much roughly it will cost to get a new one, as I have never bought one.

An English girl friend gave me the one I have in 1973.
LOL!
Hey Donga,

Why are you laughing at my predickament ?
mad.gif mad.gif
That's not very nice, that.
sad.gif sad.gif

Depends what you're using it for-no point in shelling out hard earned cash on Grand Prix tested rubber if you're only planning a one off trip in the Reliant Robin.

I think you may still be able to get retreads, though they don't meet the current AIDS--Accident Interception Designer Sheath regulations.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 07:01:59
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 29 2007, 04:45 PM) [snapback]226751[/snapback]
I've met him and he's a tit too, but so what. So's Durrant.

And as unattractive a pair of tits as you're likely to see.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 07:11:01 I'm all for healthy eating, but the 'holier than thou' Vegan types are a real pain in the arse. Mind you if I'm on an Arctic expedition with one of those weirdos and we're both starving to death-sure as fate he'll start hallucinating and see me as a big cabbage!

YES--don't bother!
mortonjag 2007-01-30 07:17:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 30 2007, 07:07 AM) [snapback]226975[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

That's just a theory, mate.

That's why the Yanks say ....
In God we Trust.
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Nothing theoretical about it-God created America in his own likeness and image-it is his love child, and the doting Father ALWAYS knows best.

God, of course was created in the first place by Homer Simpson (in his likeness and image), hence the rapid growth of atheism.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 07:42:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 30 2007, 07:14 AM) [snapback]226977[/snapback]
Well, mortonjag, the current one has lasted me 34 years and it's been used thousands of times.

I am not 110% certain that its replacement has to last for another 34 years.

But, with the advance in technology since 1973, I would like to think that a new one will last me even longer.

and remember ... quality is remembered long after price is forgotten.


huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif

In that case Harrods are doing a good deal on the David Beckam autographed, organic rubber, gold impregnated, 'Bend It' sheath, which comes in a titanium presentation case, and retails at £2,000.99p.

A must for those who want to be f*cking posh!

mortonjag 2007-01-30 07:45:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 30 2007, 07:20 AM) [snapback]226981[/snapback]
it is his love child
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in that case, perhaps extreme Muslims are on the ball.

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Extreme Muslims are more often on the mat.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 07:47:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 30 2007, 07:17 AM) [snapback]226980[/snapback]
no man or woman alive can refuse my veggy curry and dhal.

they put hairs on yer chest.
smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

And your lady friends all wear high necklines!
mortonjag 2007-01-30 07:52:47 Depends on the social circumstances-in some areas of Pishley 'Mum' goes out 'to work', 'Dad' shoplifts for the same purpose, and the weans go into care.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 07:55:14
QUOTE(se65an @ Jan 29 2007, 02:31 PM) [snapback]226628[/snapback]
Since its now impossible to buy any dodgy illegal copied software at the Barras. Police are everywere nowadays. Does anyone know where I can get hold of TOMTOM Sat nav software, on DVD
PM me.

Why don't you tan a Porsche Cayenne when 'mums' has abandoned it outside the private school.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 08:41:31
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jan 30 2007, 08:04 AM) [snapback]226989[/snapback]
we (as a species) are supposed to eat meat, humans are carnivors, end of.

just think how many sheep, cows & pigs there would be on the planet if we all became weirdo veggies !!! ohmy.gif

also, why are humans the only species on the planet that are encouraged not to follow our natural instincts ? as soon as lions tigers, dogs, cats and every other animal starts to live on lentils & nuts then i might start considering it !! dry.gif

'We, (as a species) ARE SUPPOSED to eat meat'! Sez who?

We, (as a species) are greedy pigs who will eat anything and everything and more, but it's surely just a case of utilising the environment. Eskimos tend not to eat kangaroo for example, while people in the 'deprived nations', don't get much chance of 'first class' protein, and often are 'veggies by default.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 08:44:38
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jan 30 2007, 08:16 AM) [snapback]226990[/snapback]
as soon as the word 'racist' was mentioned that dozy bint was gonna win, it's typical of this country (we all know the voting was rigged) to let the vocal few triumph, shout racism & get what you want !! mad.gif mad.gif

just another small example of how spineless this country has become ! sad.gif dry.gif sad.gif

It's pathetic I agree, but the twist in the tail was that the Black Muslim didn't win-so-mmm???
mortonjag 2007-01-30 08:48:41 1-1
mortonjag 2007-01-30 08:51:21
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 30 2007, 08:47 AM) [snapback]226994[/snapback]
I've been a vegetarian for the past 10 years. I'm not against killing animals for food per se, but I reckon intensive farming is horrendously cruel and wasteful. Some people ask if I'm a veggie for health reasons, saying how come I'm so fat. I remind them that a hippopotamus is vegetarian.

Do you eat any type of 'beast'-fish for example?
mortonjag 2007-01-30 08:56:02
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 29 2007, 10:00 PM) [snapback]226889[/snapback]
I never read the rest of the thread.

But Jesus fooking Christ!

Does the kitman play roulette on the strips each week? Don't think we have had the same combination yet!

The colour regulations may have something to do with it.

I watched Clyde play Thistle earlier in the season, and to avoid any form of colour confusion the officials were wearing LIGHT BLUE!
mortonjag 2007-01-30 09:05:01
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 30 2007, 08:55 AM) [snapback]227000[/snapback]
I'll eat fish if I'm pushed. On your travels in some places in the world, particularly in America, veggies don't have much choice.

I just wondered-you hear so much those days about healthy eating, and while vegetarian diets are excellent Vegans have to supplement their diet to thrive.

The healthiest diet of all seems to be a low saturated fat 'veggie' based one, but with the addition of a few omega acid bits and pieces.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 09:11:49
QUOTE(Lindberg6 @ Jan 30 2007, 08:57 AM) [snapback]227002[/snapback]
I personally would always have McGurn ahead of Mathers but I can see why McInally decided to bring him in, I'm however not convinced at the way he did it by immediately dropping McGurn.

I appreciate everyone's comments about Mathers organising the defence better etc - but to be honest - how many clean sheets has Mathers had?

We had a spell of 7 or 8 clean sheets in a row at the start of the season when McGurn was playing and I can't remember Mathers having two many....

So the statistics don't actually prove the theory that he organises things better as I think we are actually losing more goals with Mathers in goal - we have not had a clean sheet this year!!!!

I think it was correct of McInally to bring him in as we now have two good keepers but I do not think he should be number 1, for me Mcgurn is a better goalkeeper.

ps - no doubt the statisticians out there will totally disprove my theory re goals concdeded!

What I'VE noticed is that Mathers seems to have had FAR FAR less to do than McGurn, and occasionally he's been caught napping.

A victim of his own success in organising those in front of him perhaps?
mortonjag 2007-01-30 09:30:54
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 30 2007, 09:25 AM) [snapback]227016[/snapback]
My son lives in Paisley (disowned!) and it has taken him an hour and a half the last two mornings to get from the Elderslie end of Paisley to Shields road tube station. Also, last week, going to Cowdenbeath there were more road works at Townhead reducing the the motorway by one lane in each direction. Then there's the long term roadworks on the M77 at Hamilton/Motherwell/Bothwell - a nightmare in itself.

Then of course, you can probably count on Motherwell having not enough gates open when you get there!!

I would seriously allow at least an extra hour to get there because of this. Best plan is maybe to head up early and get something to eat locally before the game.

PS my estimate of the crowd is:

20+ buses................1200
train............................500
Cars 800...................1600
Total..........................3300

I'd advise heading off at the St. James' interchange, and going via E.Kilbride right through Hamilton to the far end. Then it's just two miles up the hill.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 09:40:45
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 28 2007, 10:03 AM) [snapback]226206[/snapback]
You'll get back just over a tenner.

£12.70 to be precise.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 09:59:40
QUOTE(Up the Ton @ Jan 30 2007, 09:55 AM) [snapback]227028[/snapback]
laugh.gif - I see your sites populated with patrons of the highest academic and social standards.....

How many sites do you see?
mortonjag 2007-01-30 10:05:52
QUOTE(Up the Ton @ Jan 30 2007, 10:00 AM) [snapback]227032[/snapback]
We are actualy only anticipating 11th this year afterall 11th in the SPL is a hell of a lot better that top of the Junior league - sorry 2nd Division. Mon the SPL2.

'actually'---'after all'---and a little bit of punctuation would raise your academic profile, educated Sir.

11th in the S.P.L., I have to concede, is an achievement beyond belief from a shower of aspirant vegetables.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 10:14:16
QUOTE(Up the Ton @ Jan 30 2007, 10:01 AM) [snapback]227034[/snapback]
wow we're onto semantics now, here are the upper classes. Do you watch Frasier when your quaffing your tonic wines ?

Edited - to add an apostrophe - what was I thinking - oh that's right I'm glad I'm not from Inverclyde.

Oops-nothing worse than an offended Pishley Mensa member.

Well yes, I am partial to the odd demi tasse of Bucky, but rather than watching cheap American trash on the telly while thus entertained, I stick pins in effigies of Gus McPherson, or if I'm really feeling naughty I do a big jobby on my partner's Dr Who poster- just to make it smell right.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 10:19:02
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 30 2007, 10:03 AM) [snapback]227035[/snapback]
Omnivore, eat meat and very occasionally fish and chicken. Don't eat lamb, venison or offal.

Couldn't be a vegetarian, only eat once a day so I'd be even bloody lighter if I couldn't eat the odd fry-up or roast.

You only eat once a day?
mortonjag 2007-01-30 10:28:37
QUOTE(Up the Ton @ Jan 30 2007, 10:16 AM) [snapback]227040[/snapback]
Not sure if aspirant is really what you mean old bean.

In reference to your recognition of the famous Paisley St. Mirren's achievements, do not dwell in wonderment of our recent achivements for too long as results such as drawing with R*ng*rs at Ibr*x, defeating both Edinburgh teams in home and away settings as well as picking up points against would be pretenders Aberdeen are to be shadowed in comparison to the glories about to be achieved after our ca$h injection from the proposed ground sale.

Good luck in the pub leagues you also-rans, you flatter yourselves to call us rivals as you are merely limpets - good day to youse.

Aspirant-aspiring to vegetable status WAS what I meant young Sir, and your pathetic catalogue of SPL achievements bears little comparison to those of the Mighty Ton of the 70's and 80's.

It's really sad that when you brain damaged humanity rejects see relegation staring you in the face, and the only true 'Renfrewshire' club is about to hump 'Well' in the cup, you start wittering on about 'airy fairy' cash injections.

You're the one who needs the injection-and one final thought-I'd rather be a limpet than a Skunk.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 10:36:15
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 30 2007, 10:22 AM) [snapback]227045[/snapback]
Only one meal anyway, can't manage any more than that since I lost a stone in about a week.

I'm confused-nobody-well almost nobody-can lose that kind of weight unless he's ill, and even then it's 'good' going.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 10:43:44
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 30 2007, 10:38 AM) [snapback]227048[/snapback]
Coma.

I hope you're well now.

Much of that weight loss would surely be down to dehydration, as weight loss of one stone in a week equates to burning off fat at a rate of over 8000 calories a day.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 10:50:38
QUOTE(Up the Ton @ Jan 30 2007, 10:38 AM) [snapback]227049[/snapback]
a limpet on a skunks ar*e that is, when talking of pathetic - past glories of the 70's and 80's what exactly did you win in the top flight ? (Aint won the Scottish cup since the 20's methinks and that's your greatest glory) you never know you might manage something in the next hundred years.

Only true Renfrewshire club laugh.gif

Whos got the biggest stadium, fanbase, honours list, european games, capped Internationalists, currently in the top league, hmmm...

Who indeed-if you want to quote statistics get things right-I'm not just talking about 'in living memory' stuff.

Biggest fanbase my arse-Pishley's fanbase is Pishley-you're just a wee Toon side with big ideas, and surrounded by Castle Greyskull, the 'Jungle', Baurheid, and TON country.

AND just about to be RELEGATED!
mortonjag 2007-01-30 10:53:30
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 30 2007, 10:46 AM) [snapback]227052[/snapback]
Doing not too bad, although now down to 9 stone 5... at least the prick went to jail smile.gif

Orrabest.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 10:55:11 Pressley the Tim-I don't think so.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 11:52:14
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 30 2007, 10:58 AM) [snapback]227061[/snapback]
The Midden secured a couple of good signings today: Eddie Malone (who those who were at Broadwood will remember) and Stephen O'Donnell, both of Clyde.

Yet another reason to hate Malone! biggrin.gif

I'm sure the animal will feel very much at home.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 11:58:22
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 30 2007, 11:13 AM) [snapback]227067[/snapback]
fantapants is a vegetarian, so i only eat meat once a week or so. i only buy good quality organic meat, i wouldn't go near the crap in the supermarkets. besides the problems i've got with intensive farming, my dad used to have a butcher's shop in greenock so i know what good meat is like, and you just don't get it from the supermarkets. they only hang it for a few days, because hanging beef for a good length of time - at least three weeks - means you lose about 25% of the mass (and the profit). even their so-called 'premium' stuff is vacuum-packed s***.

as for getting veggie food in the states, we were in a roadside diner in backwoods pennsylvania a few years back and the only thing fp could order from the menu was vegetable soup. it came with bacon on top.

trick, i wouldn't be so picky about american beef. the american beef industry is even filthier than ours.

'I only buy good quality organic meat' and 'wouldn't go near the crap in the supermarkets', and 'have problems with intensive farming'.

Good for you. I buy my meat in the supermarket-and it IS good quality meat. I'm not arguing that you can't get better stuff by paying through the nose, but as usual you go right OTT to make a point.

Was your father a family butcher, and if so, more's the pity you were spared.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 12:38:39
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 30 2007, 12:03 PM) [snapback]227090[/snapback]
Which supermarket? unsure.gif

Sainsbury-I know the butcher.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 12:50:28
QUOTE(Up the Ton @ Jan 30 2007, 12:19 PM) [snapback]227098[/snapback]
We're a bigger town than gr**n*ck and have a fan base that includes Paisley, Elderslie, Houston, Johnstone, Linwood, Howwood, Barrhead, Crookston, Cardonald, Erskine, Bishopton, Inchinnan etc.

Oh right you're talking about success outwith living memory, enjoy mulling in your not so blissful and totally unmemorable past.

Jesus Christ, a veritable conurbation at your doorstep-get a life.

We've got a huge chunk of Renfrewshire and Ayrshire, the whole of Cowal, AND Port Glasgow, Greenock, and Gourock.

Anyway there's no point in arguing about it when statistics prove we've a far greater pulling power than the repellent Skunks.

When did you EVER have anything like 110,000 watching you in a cup final at Hampden-and that IS within living memory.

You claim to be a bigger town than Greenock, but everybody who knows anything knows that half of 'Paisley's really part of Glasgow.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 16:00:54
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 30 2007, 03:37 PM) [snapback]227240[/snapback]
i work for the scottish executive, where the socially disabled go to die.

WORK and SCOTTISH EXECUTIVE are mutually exclusive, but for the first time I'm beginning to understand the chip on your shoulder.

Do they still give you a bell to ring as you walk through the streets chanting 'Unclean'?
mortonjag 2007-01-30 16:07:13
QUOTE(Mick @ Jan 30 2007, 01:32 PM) [snapback]227158[/snapback]
The roadworks at the airport aren't actually that bad. It was bad yesterday, but that was the first day and was expected. Today was absolutely fine and if anything it cleared the road a little through to Kingston Bridge, which is a bit of a bonus.

If you're travelling from Greenock then it should realistically only add 10 - 15 mins to normal journey times, but as said, you'll prob save some time at the Kingston Bridge.
If you're travelling from P*isley on the A737 (?) past the airport, then I understand that that's where the delay will be felt most. However, it serves you right for living there tongue.gif

It's not the White Cart works that would worry me-it's those unpredictable lane closures between the Kingston bridge and Townhead, which seem to be targeted for the weekend, and caused havoc last Saturday.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 16:15:35
QUOTE(Up the Ton @ Jan 30 2007, 01:00 PM) [snapback]227123[/snapback]
Are you still going on about 1922 ? - btw if you've got such great pulling power how come you still have that sh*tty little excuse for a stadium and have been languishing in the second for God knows how long ? Where's your 110K now ?? laugh.gif

I was referring to MY living memory-I was there-you clearly know f*ck all about football history.

Anyhow you'll be laughing on the other side of your face in two seasons when we're in the SPL and you're pulling in 600 sad bastards a week to watch your miserable demise through the second division to bankruptcy the following year.

DO NOT ARGUE-it has been arranged.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 16:19:36
QUOTE(Up the Ton @ Jan 30 2007, 01:08 PM) [snapback]227129[/snapback]
Why did you post it twice and without quotes you dumb, illiterate, banterless f*ck ?

Sounds just like a Skunk at Paisley 'University'-WHAAT a f*ckin' joke-Paisley University, they even laugh at that in Reid Kerr College (cannae read an dinnae care).
mortonjag 2007-01-30 17:19:14 Depends what's meant by the question-big Stu gets a lot of criticism-I DON'T think he could give an ounce more, and he's not the classiest, but in some ways he's been the best in terms of consistency.

Of the first team regulars who could give more, it's definitely a choice between Stevenson and McAlister-neither has fulfilled his potential.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 17:27:16
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 30 2007, 04:58 PM) [snapback]227295[/snapback]
Glad you pointed that out. Was gonna leave at 2pm, think i will leave at 1:30 instead just in case.

I'm not even chancing that f*cking motorway Weegie-last Saturday I picked my brother up in the West End at 1.15-all the on ramps were shut right through to Townhead, and we just got into the game as the second half started. We're just going to drive out through Rutherglen, Cambuslang etc., and up the hill from Hamilton, this Saturday.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 17:39:08
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 30 2007, 04:40 PM) [snapback]227281[/snapback]
I don't doubt it for a second. :/
Hmm, wonder where I'm thinking of with the laundromats? And yeah, I'd read about some of those clubs, that are bigger than the sports teams that they're affiliated to. Massive, massive things.
Fair enough. It's probably a total no-brainer but I can't think of any reason to go there if you're not a casino gambler. It's just a big traffic jam once you're outside and just going to check out the Strip isn't at all worth it. I know this because I went with my girlfriend, who doesn't gamble, and while we both ooh-ed and aah-ed at the lights, she's in no hurry to go back and I can't blame her in the least bit.
I've only ever been to one casino in my life and it was an overnight stay in Las Vegas.

In places like Vegas it's totally true that if you're there, you are to be enticed in - and the Strip really has to be seen to be believed (although, as I said above, that isn't an endorsement of seeing nor believing it.) However, a single, solitary supercasino would be pretty much a destination - it's not the type of place that the public is going to go into on a whim but rather it's a "destination". (I suppose people passing it on the motorway, however, are more likely just to wander in.)

And you're totally right about the science of casino design, although what struck me was just how small the one I visited was (The Sahara, which is at the lower end of the quality scale.) Even though it was designed with just three exits, none of which were well-marked or accessible, it really wasn't difficult to "escape" as it was quite tiny, although they did "sink" the gambling floor to make it harder to see rolleyes.gif.

I maintain that the weak-willed gamblers are far more likely to slip into a bookies or "click mouse, lose house", but I don't deny that some people will suffer badly for this.

However, people suffer badly for a lot of things...

I agree.

Genuine gambling addicts are just as selective as alcoholics, and what 'alky' needs a posh and expensive lounge bar with all the trimmings when you just want to get pissed quick.

How many chocoholics frequent Thorntons?
mortonjag 2007-01-30 17:43:13
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 30 2007, 05:37 PM) [snapback]227313[/snapback]
anybody know anything about them?

They are closely related to the weasel, that well known inhabitant of the Scottish Executive.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 17:51:14
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jan 30 2007, 05:46 PM) [snapback]227318[/snapback]
What do they taste like?

Depends whether they're cooked properly or not-I've enjoyed many a good ferret flambe, though it doesn't quite have the 'je ne sais qua' of deep fried skewered skunk.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 17:56:38
QUOTE(we @ Jan 30 2007, 05:49 PM) [snapback]227319[/snapback]
Come back when yer dad grows baws n yer maw grows tits yae smelly paisley C-unt cus thur both rats like you ya manky F-uck ye'll naw be sayin at when yer gettin yer c-unt kicked in affa wan o oor so called ( casuals ) when yer doon here ya prick sa f*** off stop commin on here aw e time n find a job ya paisley B-astard!!

Careful son-you're getting down near the best he can offer-don't make him feel at home!
mortonjag 2007-01-30 18:00:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 30 2007, 05:57 PM) [snapback]227323[/snapback]
I prefer the Edouard de Pomiane receipe with 24 cloves of garlic - a gastronomic delight.

yum
biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Is that the one where they tenderly prepare the skunk in boiling balsamic vinegar before stuffing it with live piranha?
mortonjag 2007-01-30 18:07:47
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 30 2007, 06:04 PM) [snapback]227327[/snapback]
Ask her, she may give you one

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2007-01-30 18:14:29
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 30 2007, 06:11 PM) [snapback]227334[/snapback]
I know the road through Rutherglen and Cambuslang. Where do I go from there for the hill at Hamilton and onwards to the Well?

Just keep heading East through Cambuslang and Blantyre into Hamilton-head for the town centre area, and then look for signs for Motherwell. The main drag up into Motherwell from Hamilton is Airbles Road, and the park's just off to the right at the top end. Granted you'll have to deal with some urban traffic, but it's far and away the most direct route from the South side, and that bloody motorway is a total gamble at the moment.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 18:25:11
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jan 30 2007, 06:26 PM) [snapback]227338[/snapback]
testing to make sure he done it right

this boys a genious biggrin.gif

Indeed, but if he can do that, what ELSE can he do? sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-30 18:42:53 I am being pestered by my beloved-she insists she wants a dog, and it's got to be a Dachshund.

Over the years I've owned several breeds, but those wee sausage things have never appealed.

SERIOUS answers only please!!! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-30 19:15:08
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jan 30 2007, 06:54 PM) [snapback]227348[/snapback]
****waits on puggs to find a pic of a teenage girl wearing a dachshund****

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mortonjag 2007-01-30 19:18:10
QUOTE(only_1_paul_mcgowan @ Jan 30 2007, 07:12 PM) [snapback]227350[/snapback]
im not 100% sure but is he not in the top scorers list in the league aswell?

What do you mean-there are a few 2nd division players who have scored more including Bobby Linn.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 19:21:03
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 30 2007, 06:50 PM) [snapback]227346[/snapback]
Big brother is watching you!!

noch0king? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-30 19:23:33
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 30 2007, 06:54 PM) [snapback]227349[/snapback]
I don't think Scotland needs any more organised crime or addiction problems. Manchester can keep the 'super' casino.

....and 'Sir' Alex Punter.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 19:37:03 She has changed her mind!!

Surprise, surprise-now it's to be a greyhound from greyhound rescue!
mortonjag 2007-01-30 19:38:42
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 30 2007, 07:42 PM) [snapback]227363[/snapback]
and me tongue.gif

peeping Tom rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-30 19:40:09
QUOTE(otter @ Jan 30 2007, 07:40 PM) [snapback]227362[/snapback]
Anybody had to go to Glasgow recently? How bad are the road works at the airport this time? I had to go through them last year on a Friday afternoon at rush hour and found them no problem.

I may have to go up again this year, so, are they just as bad or worse?

Phil.

The future's bright....

They are not a problem except at the rush hour, and even then there are no real 'hold ups'.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 19:47:38
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 30 2007, 07:48 PM) [snapback]227367[/snapback]
Tonights game at Fir Park has been delayed due to traffic laugh.gif

Because the tattie howkers have gone M77-M8-M73 instead of staying south of the Clyde 'til Hamilton! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-30 19:49:41
QUOTE(only_1_paul_mcgowan @ Jan 30 2007, 07:46 PM) [snapback]227365[/snapback]
i'm only saying ! i thought paul had got more goals than linn i know linn has more in the league but has paul not got more overall?

I'm not sure, but doubt it.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 19:51:30
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 30 2007, 07:59 PM) [snapback]227376[/snapback]
East Kilbride by all account, the delay is only 15mins, there are 12 killie buses still havent arrived yet.

Strange-they got it right, and still got messed about-did they mention the reason-e.g. roadworks?
mortonjag 2007-01-30 19:53:51
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jan 30 2007, 07:51 PM) [snapback]227370[/snapback]
Apparently greyhounds never bark.

They are apparently quite docile and usually make good pets.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 19:57:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 30 2007, 07:56 PM) [snapback]227372[/snapback]
no, you twit, one stuffs it with 24 cloves of garlic.

Don't you read, boy?
blink.gif blink.gif

..one stuffs it with 24 cloves of garlic...while the other tells the piranhas to be patient?
mortonjag 2007-01-30 19:59:49
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 30 2007, 08:08 PM) [snapback]227382[/snapback]
Greyhounds can be quite vicious - my son's cat was torn apart by 2 racing greyhounds which were being walked without muzzles or lead. They have an instinct to chase anything that moves, and that could include a small child.

Good man-that's the greyhound idea blown out of the water! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-30 20:03:18
QUOTE(gdo @ Jan 30 2007, 08:04 PM) [snapback]227380[/snapback]
Deveronvale will beat Thistle. You heard it hear first!

Well there you go-I'll give you a tip-Morton will beat Motherwell-they've probably more chance than Deveronvale so why not stick on a tenner double?
mortonjag 2007-01-30 21:50:26
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 30 2007, 08:20 PM) [snapback]227391[/snapback]
I've arrived late at Cappielow at least 3 times this season, never ever been late before this season. One occasion (first Stirling games) was cos my flight from Stansted was delayed and I didn't get to Prestwick till about 2.15. The other twice was due to horrendous westbound jams round Glasgow - 7 fecking miles for the game against Alloa. Next time I'm coming through East Kilbride if there's any doubt. The northern ring road delays in Glasgow are unpredictable and LONG. Allow an extra 45 minutes at least.

Motherwell's a skoosh for me, apart from the lack of parking. Less than anhour and no roadworks of note en route. Probably be first there.

If you're early you should get parked 'on street' fairly near the ground.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 21:54:07
QUOTE(e_f @ Jan 30 2007, 09:08 PM) [snapback]227412[/snapback]
It think Mathers is over rated. He's been at least partly at fault for the last three or four goals we've conceded.
The goal a couple of weeks ago when there was confusion between him and the defence. That's not a keeper who "commands his area". He is very hesitant when coming for crosses and balls played through the centre - we could have lost another couple of goals over the last few games because of this.
I think maybe McGurn has got the message he has to shout more from what I hear from when he came on on Saturday. He made a least one good catch from a cross that Mathers would have dithered at.

Is he really or is he just more experienced and doesn't commit to coming off his line too early?
I think the number of defensive mix ups (two players going for the one ball for example) has decreased dramatically.

McGurn is a damned good keeper too, but he is far too quiet.
mortonjag 2007-01-30 21:57:22
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 30 2007, 08:16 PM) [snapback]227388[/snapback]
Naw Trick, Pigs are omnivores. They'll even eat Americans. biggrin.gif

Cannibals!
mortonjag 2007-01-31 05:18:01
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 31 2007, 12:21 AM) [snapback]227471[/snapback]
To be fair though, if Durrant was never assaulted by Neil Simpson he'd probably have become a Scotland legend.

Note to Mortonjag: I was previously a closet tim. I trust you now suspect I'm a closet hun.

I suspect you're an insomniac! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-31 05:20:45
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 31 2007, 12:17 AM) [snapback]227468[/snapback]
Hmm, I'm not so sure. It took me about an hour longer than usual to get to Glasgow city centre on Sunday afternoon.

Sunday afternoons are often a nightmare on the urban M-way-eejits flocking like sheep to the Fort and Braehead to buy things they don't need IMO.
mortonjag 2007-01-31 05:22:57
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 31 2007, 12:24 AM) [snapback]227474[/snapback]
Completely different type of player. Thompson is a playmaker, Hartley's a box to box, late runs on to crosses type of midfielder. They could both walk in to the Rangers midfield because they're, to a man, utter pish, except for golden boy Ferguson of course. He's the best player Scotland, no, the world has ever seen.

He is indeed a flottist supreme.
mortonjag 2007-01-31 05:28:06
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 30 2007, 11:24 PM) [snapback]227453[/snapback]
True Fact : Polar bears love banana's. So I guess that makes a mockery of your theory.

Monkeys can't resist baked Alaska either.
mortonjag 2007-01-31 05:37:37 What a shower of pussies and wimps, and the EMPLOYERS get the bad name. I worked for over twenty years without a single day off.

O.K., I was lucky, but I also dragged myself in many a time when I could more easily have stayed in bed.

Looking back, I was probably a bit daft, but nowadays the 'sickie' seems to be viewed as implicit in the contract of employment! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-31 06:06:30 Three days to go folks, and it IS the SCOTTISH cup remember.

Dem Tims don't play 'til Sunday, and even then it's against Livvi-away.

Hibs are at home to Gret£a-no doubt that one will be bummed up to the sky and the bumpkins will get f*cked again.

Falkirk (whom Killie beat last night) play the real Saints, while Caley play the Arabs, and the Pars are at home to the Jam Tarts.

I know I've missed two as they clearly don't merit as much press interest as our game, but I wonder how we'll fare, given that there are only two all SPL ties.

We shall see!

mortonjag 2007-01-31 06:14:03
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 31 2007, 12:00 AM) [snapback]227463[/snapback]
Well, that makes sense as she wrote childrens' music. smile.gif

Small but curvy if I remember right.

Small BUT curvy!!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-31 07:12:47 BANGLE???

Last time I saw that word it meant a piece of jewelry! unsure.gif ... but

I guess it depends on the angle from which you perceive the word 'Bangle'

...or Dangle, or Jangle, or Mangle, or Tangle, or Wangle, or there again Wrangle.

mortonjag 2007-01-31 07:20:25
QUOTE(1insert_player_here @ Jan 31 2007, 12:22 AM) [snapback]227472[/snapback]
I always thought it was played at Hampden?

Anyway, I hope something is done soon. Killie fans were still entering the ground as the 2nd half was kicking off!

Well, they were not disappointed in the end, as they humped the bairns-tattie howking paedos-the lot of them I say.
mortonjag 2007-01-31 07:56:59 A wee challenge:

Rearrange the following to find a popular statement about a Scottish 1st Division football manager:


'Uncle Warren-Da's on a taxi'

No prizes offered, but just one clue-answer smacks of Durrant's comment! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-31 09:11:02
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 31 2007, 09:16 AM) [snapback]227512[/snapback]
Hitler ate cheese and eggs as well. Seemingly he didn't eat meat because it interfered with his digestion.

(Although I just looked it up and apparently he <3'd animals.)

That is correct-Hitler was extremely squeamish-even the thought of blood made him vomit, and the smell of burning flesh was a no go area. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-31 09:13:24
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 31 2007, 09:19 AM) [snapback]227514[/snapback]
Probably because it is, at least in my contract.

I was referring to 'throwing a sickie', which probably isn't. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-31 09:28:14
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 31 2007, 09:10 AM) [snapback]227511[/snapback]
We're not "living the dream", remember, so we have to be happy with whatever we get.

Mileson will probably lead a pitchside parade of llamas and Derek Townsleys before the match, ensuring they're on the front and back pages.

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Townsley's away down south now, but I gather Brookes still faces east as he pays homage to the daily llama.
mortonjag 2007-01-31 09:49:39
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 31 2007, 09:52 AM) [snapback]227523[/snapback]
This thread is unnecessary. Please don't bite or rise to the bait.

Seconded.
mortonjag 2007-01-31 09:55:30
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 31 2007, 09:48 AM) [snapback]227522[/snapback]
Granted he was only doing his job but some of his comments were a bit out of order and showed no respect to a club who employed him for nearly ten years, or to the supporters who idolised him. Players of other clubs who have gone onto management and have been in similar situations (ie having to play against the club that brought them success) have shown respect to the respective clubs whilst being interviewed by the press.

Alexander is an ignorant, arrogant, jumped up brat with no pedigree of any kind (least of all in football management).

He's never wanted for a few bob, and the only consolation is that if he ever grows up Mileson and Gretna will be long gone, and he'll have had to work out how to earn an honest living outside football..
mortonjag 2007-01-31 10:07:07
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 31 2007, 10:08 AM) [snapback]227530[/snapback]
And your point is caller......

All will be revealed when you solve the wee riddle! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-31 10:10:01
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2007, 10:07 AM) [snapback]227528[/snapback]
If we're going to pick up on other people's faults....where's your capital letter to denote the start of the sentence?

Get yer dunce hat on rolleyes.gif

They don't come big enough puggsy. cool.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-31 11:08:48
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 31 2007, 10:32 AM) [snapback]227537[/snapback]
Done laugh.gif

wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-01-31 12:23:58
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jan 31 2007, 12:13 PM) [snapback]227561[/snapback]
i cant believe there's been 4 pages of replies to this paisley retard. unsure.gif

ignore the c*** & he'll go away.
BTW who are the skunks playing in the cup this weekend ? smile.gif

Erm-I don't think they entered this year or something-anyway word has it they've arranged a bounce game with the weasels at a secret venue, but it's common knowledge it's out Fanny Aitken's back green in Feegie, and the ref's a badger.
mortonjag 2007-01-31 12:29:05 How does a lady get down from an elephant?





















Don't be silly, down comes from ducks.
mortonjag 2007-01-31 12:38:36
QUOTE(McCauley87 @ Jan 31 2007, 12:45 PM) [snapback]227568[/snapback]
The attendance will be quite low I think 7500 (with the majority being us) at best cos Motherwell have a poor attendance. As for the score, I had money on teh Killie game for us to win 2-1 and I think we will win 2-1 this time. Motherwell are a poorer team than Killie in my opinion and with us being away from home we will have more room to play football than we did against Killie so I think it will be a good contest and we should come through in the end.

I wonder what odds you'd have got on that forecast before the Killie game?
mortonjag 2007-01-31 12:52:47
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 31 2007, 12:49 PM) [snapback]227570[/snapback]
Jeffries was complaining about that, but not the fact that it wasn't at Hampden per se, rather the fact that it was on a very poor surface at Fir Park. I suppose the traffic situation didn't help, either.

Most drivers were quite well behaved except for the eejit who lost contol at the corner flag and demolished the goals.
mortonjag 2007-01-31 13:08:27
QUOTE(YACHTTON @ Jan 31 2007, 01:13 PM) [snapback]227575[/snapback]
Well I managed to break my leg 2 weeks ago.
Silly accident involving a Bahamian island, golf cart and a days drinking.
Home now and have just arranged a wheelchair for Motherwell on Saturday!!! rolleyes.gif

Hopefully they'll need at least eleven by 4.45
mortonjag 2007-01-31 13:10:23
QUOTE(Chuck Norris @ Jan 31 2007, 01:14 PM) [snapback]227577[/snapback]
Harharhaaarrr! That joke made me laugh so I won't kill you. I may even kill someone on your behalf but they have to be an evil dictator.

Bryan?
mortonjag 2007-01-31 13:14:36
QUOTE(Chuck Norris @ Jan 31 2007, 01:22 PM) [snapback]227581[/snapback]
No, Chuck. You ever call me Bryan and I'll rip off your arms and beat you to death with them.

Sorry Chuck
mortonjag 2007-01-31 13:26:55
QUOTE(Chuck Norris @ Jan 31 2007, 01:26 PM) [snapback]227584[/snapback]
That's alright then, you can keep your arms.

Gee thanks Chuck
mortonjag 2007-01-31 13:29:35
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Jan 31 2007, 01:35 PM) [snapback]227590[/snapback]
Um, it could be....maybe....Suzanna Hoffs of............
....wait for it......
......of..............
............The Bangles........?

Wiz she wan o' thae wee Hoffs?
mortonjag 2007-01-31 13:33:31
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 31 2007, 01:14 PM) [snapback]227576[/snapback]
capital letters are anti-egalitarian. who do they think they are? they think they're all that.

but they're not.

See what I told you puggsy!
mortonjag 2007-01-31 14:35:36
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Jan 31 2007, 01:46 PM) [snapback]227598[/snapback]
Redneck? Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! I got yo' redneck, Chuckie boy.

Now run along and play with your plastic guns......go on now.
Maybe....but she "walked like an Egyptian."

Just like her Mummy?
mortonjag 2007-01-31 14:37:13
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 31 2007, 02:12 PM) [snapback]227604[/snapback]
I *want* to like Super Ro - he scored the first Morton goal I ever saw. However, the man is just a bit of a breast.

That said, if it was between him and Durrant, I'd want Alexander to win any day.

If it was between him and Durrant, it'd be a cleavage.
mortonjag 2007-01-31 15:11:31
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Jan 31 2007, 02:57 PM) [snapback]227629[/snapback]
No. She was in denial.

What-she was ashamed of being one of the wee Hoffs?
mortonjag 2007-02-01 06:56:32
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 31 2007, 11:06 PM) [snapback]227829[/snapback]
Deuchar to Northampton ? I thought he had his heart set on a big team .... Don't even think Northampton are the biggest team in Northampton . Ah ! Doctor who prescribed that move ? tongue.gif

On LOAN-to boot! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-01 06:59:02
QUOTE(lemmington @ Jan 31 2007, 06:45 PM) [snapback]227738[/snapback]
What a crappy thread.

It's a valid comment on our emotions prior to one of our biggest games this season-a crappy thread is a thin jobby.
mortonjag 2007-02-01 07:02:57
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Feb 1 2007, 12:25 AM) [snapback]227853[/snapback]
Great ; lets call it the ''Piehut , Newton and Mortonjag chatroom''

Mortonjag does not chat-he debates-and only with his intellectual peers. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-01 07:07:46 Well done to Susie-but what's this about traffic moving about for 15 minutes after the game so that pedestrians will be safe-Susan- is it just the claret and amber clad ones we've to knock down? rolleyes.gif

Edit-sorry Susie-it's Santa's mistake!
mortonjag 2007-02-01 07:11:29
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 31 2007, 07:52 PM) [snapback]227765[/snapback]
Hitler the 'vegetarian' had regular injections of animal derived serums, including bull semen. ohmy.gif

... and a grossly dilated anus.
mortonjag 2007-02-01 08:00:17
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Jan 31 2007, 08:56 PM) [snapback]227783[/snapback]
Am i supposed to ?

Bryan?
mortonjag 2007-02-01 08:20:29
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jan 31 2007, 10:47 PM) [snapback]227822[/snapback]
Northampton Town are bigger than all SFL clubs, and also bigger than Dunfermline, St. Mirren, Falkirk, Motherwell, Kilmarnock and Inverness CT; which accounts for half of the SPL. Only the Old Firm, Hearts, Hibernian, Aberdeen and Dundee United could claim to be a bigger club than Northampton.

Looked at Northamptons squad and they have Andy Kirk (ex-Hearts), Eion Jess (player-coach) Chris Doig (ex Nottm Forest and Sco U21) and Luke Chambers, a young defender who has been linked to several clubs in big money moves.

Respectable, i'd say.

What the hell is a 'bigger' club-what figures or fantasy are you using-I'm not disputing your statement, but those matters are often extremely spurious and vary from decade to decade.

One thing's for sure though, the greedy big poacher didn't end up there in a charitable cause, and he's probably lined up part time work in the local hospital already. (Junior hospital posts run from Feb 1st to July 31st).

mortonjag 2007-02-01 09:07:27
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 1 2007, 08:57 AM) [snapback]227891[/snapback]
it's boolox, it'll never happen.

an MP tellin people he'll give them what thy want just to get votes then it'll be swept under the carpet & forgot about if they do win the next election.

i f***in hate MPs, lying c***s each & every one of them !!! mad.gif mad.gif

Tory and football fan is as probable a combination as Blair and socialism.

'Let them eat cake'. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-01 09:11:33
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 1 2007, 09:07 AM) [snapback]227896[/snapback]
Plus, notice it was actually a Lib Dem MP who originally tabled a motion to review the seating arrangements... (midway down the article.)

'Tabled a motion'

umm

Dem libs are full of s***.
mortonjag 2007-02-01 09:18:56
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 1 2007, 09:08 AM) [snapback]227897[/snapback]
Can't disagree with any of that at all (except Dundee United are really a "fallen giant" - if they ever were truly giant - and IMO are quite a small club.)

I repeat the question-how do you define a 'big' football club. If it's to do wish cash for example Gre£na are one of the biggest in Scotland. If it's to do with potential fanbase, it's subject to huge fluctuation. If it's to do with history Third Lanark are still 'no bad'.

I think Deuchar is rightly the butt of our jokes-his behaviour has, to say the least, been cynical and he ends up in South-er Northampton, famous for its footWEAR.
mortonjag 2007-02-01 09:22:27
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 1 2007, 09:02 AM) [snapback]227894[/snapback]
Is This Week Pure Dragging ?? unsure.gif

what wonderful grammar. dry.gif

Yep.


'Yep'

What wonderful English!
mortonjag 2007-02-01 09:25:33 Gay cowboy to partner-'Yup'

Partner- 'Yip'
mortonjag 2007-02-01 09:31:38
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 31 2007, 07:34 PM) [snapback]227759[/snapback]
McDonald's a tidy player but I think it kinda shows that Rangers have slumped a bit (well, that and their poor results) having to sign a guy like him.

I hope you don't have to eat your words on Saturday-he's more than a 'tidy' player on form, and I welcome the OF showing some respect to home grown talent rather than splashing out dosh on foreign gambles.
Was Charlie Adam any more than a 'tidy' player last season?
mortonjag 2007-02-01 09:58:38 I did not know McDonald is Australian, which simply reinforces the point when I talk about signing foreign 'gambles'. The guys's been here for some time-he is not a 'M.Le Guen' type who may have a pedigree elsewhere but can't adapt to the Scottish game.

I cited Charlie Adam as an example of a 'tidy' player who CAN cut it in the SPL-hardly the most prestigious of leagues on an international scale.
mortonjag 2007-02-01 10:00:43
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 1 2007, 09:51 AM) [snapback]227913[/snapback]
i know. dry.gif
smart arse !

Takes one to know one! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-01 10:01:51
QUOTE(Chuck Norris @ Feb 1 2007, 10:00 AM) [snapback]227915[/snapback]
Head for Linwood.

and follow the 'Sports Centre' signs.
mortonjag 2007-02-01 10:38:16 MODERN f*cking students! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-01 10:43:04
QUOTE(Chuck Norris @ Feb 1 2007, 10:39 AM) [snapback]227937[/snapback]
Yeah, you God damn should punk.
I warned you before Moronfag.

Sorry Chuck
mortonjag 2007-02-01 10:55:04
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 1 2007, 10:48 AM) [snapback]227943[/snapback]
I think we'll be taking Tonsilitis' route 2. So I know who to blame if we're late tongue.gif

Erm -tonsilitis is a plagiarist!

See my reply to his thread-'If you are driving..'-I will take the blame-it will be nothing new for me. wub.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-01 11:02:54
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 1 2007, 10:49 AM) [snapback]227944[/snapback]
In fairness I was in seclusion in the library for most of the rest of the time tongue.gif

I remember that being built-before then we only had the reading room, where reading was done occasionally.
mortonjag 2007-02-01 11:06:22
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 31 2007, 07:56 PM) [snapback]227768[/snapback]
Alexander was a very good player for Morton. Whatever he's done since cannot change that.

He was indeed and emigrated many years ago. That balloon at Gre£na is definitely an impostor-no way is he Super Ro.
mortonjag 2007-02-01 17:42:27
QUOTE(suda @ Feb 1 2007, 12:48 PM) [snapback]227985[/snapback]
The blend your after is a load of good young players with a few key older heads who can talk to them throughout the game. Older heads can inspire confidence and should be able to boss a situation wich would hopefully prevent some of the bickering we get between players. All we need is a player like Davie Nicolls who as far as I know hasn't signed for QoS and is still looking for a move out of Gretna. McInally has already done well to bring in Mathers who fits the mould for the back four one in the middle of the park should just about be enough.

suda, you are indeed a man of wisdom, or to be truthful, common sense!
mortonjag 2007-02-01 17:47:27 Just hope the Ton players take their work more seriously on Saturday.
mortonjag 2007-02-01 17:55:44
QUOTE(Tom McB @ Feb 1 2007, 02:31 PM) [snapback]228005[/snapback]
Nonsense. me for starters.

Did not David Mellor, whilst a tory MP once have it away wearing the jersey of his beloved Chelsea?

John Major is a footie fan.

Closer to home David McLetchie, Leader of the Scottish Tories, 1999 to 2005 is a jambo.

Typical Tory, trying to argue the general from the particular-next you'll be telling us the SSP are into 'rugger' because Rosie Kane's a part time hooker!
mortonjag 2007-02-01 18:46:53
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Feb 1 2007, 11:17 AM) [snapback]227952[/snapback]
I would be surprised if you could get much of a chat out of a glass of water laugh.gif

rolleyes.gif water's to do with PIERS ya eejit.
mortonjag 2007-02-01 18:53:57
QUOTE(stu_1874 @ Feb 1 2007, 06:25 PM) [snapback]228109[/snapback]
Anyone on the board (or someone close to them) had laser eye surgery?? Was considering it but dont know who to go with and if its a good idea mellow.gif any good/bad experiences?

stu-the best advice I can give you is that anything you get from the board is unlikely to be objective. If you seriously want advice speak to an optician or your G.P. before considering splashing the cash.
mortonjag 2007-02-01 19:02:45
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Feb 1 2007, 06:15 PM) [snapback]228103[/snapback]
Basically, to stand a chance of seeing the game we all have to set off at around 11pm on Friday night.

Too late-the ground's already packed out.
mortonjag 2007-02-01 20:25:36
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Feb 1 2007, 07:46 PM) [snapback]228152[/snapback]
Still got to a European Final, not bad for a 'wee' club.

Precisely the point I was making when I asked the question-'What's big'?
mortonjag 2007-02-01 20:32:58
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Feb 1 2007, 07:31 PM) [snapback]228145[/snapback]
Just applying the same kind of logic that 90% of this messageboard use whenever they claim "we are a bigger club than..." anytime we get beaten by the likes of Forfar, Alloa, Brechin, Stranraer etc. etc.

Northampton is a big town, with around THREE times the population of the whole Inverclyde conurbation and almost as big as Aberdeen. They have one professional football team who average gates around 5,500-6,000 each matchday, which is bigger than most in Scotland bar half-a-dozen or so clubs. They will also pay better wages than most Scottish clubs and shell out more in transfer fees than most Scottish teams, therefore it is no "fantasy" to suggest that Northampton Town are a bigger club than most Scottish League teams.

I won't attempt to check your details, but the Ton do not only pull from 'the Inverclyde conurbation'-you and I are just two examples of that.

Furthermore, given our average home gate in the SFL second division, and evidence from previous ventures into the top division, I would be extremely surprised if we did not AVERAGE more than 6000 in the SPL.

I have said repeatedly that our potential fanbase is greater than any Scottish club other than those in Aberdeen, Dundee, Edinburgh, and Glasgow-excluding Thistle.

Scotland is a wee country compared to England, and in the latter Northampton is undoubtedly a 'wee' club.
mortonjag 2007-02-01 20:46:04
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 1 2007, 07:56 PM) [snapback]228156[/snapback]
5 Carbons, 6 Hydrogens and an Oxygen. laugh.gif

2 Carbons last time I checked, but that's just the neat stuff-maybe yours is 'carbonated'-Cheers-hic!
mortonjag 2007-02-01 22:21:14
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Feb 1 2007, 09:14 PM) [snapback]228194[/snapback]
[:comatose]

This is gonna descend into one of these debates that Morton are bigger than The Beatles, AC Milan et all, with the word 'potentially' used a lot.

Let me just say that Northampton Town is a decent move any player outwith the SPL, its a good step up and a stepping stone if he wishes to further a career in English Football, and if it goes tits-up there will be plenty of takers in the scottish leagues.

So it wouldn't be a decent move for an SPL player yet in your original post you suggested that only six current SPL clubs are bigger than them. Given what Cawston's just stated from local knowledge that's cobblers!
mortonjag 2007-02-02 06:10:01 I believe Hibs and QOS will both win on current form, though I appreciate form is not a good cup guide.

I'd back the other five for draws on a Canadian-three up and you're well in profit-all five and probably about £2500 for £1 unit stake.
mortonjag 2007-02-02 06:18:36
QUOTE(steveoath @ Feb 1 2007, 10:50 PM) [snapback]228238[/snapback]
Got a Blue and white checked flag. Gonna get something printed up on it for the game... but I'm at a loss!! Any suggestions. So far these ideas have been offered from some 'helpful' people....

"Chris Templeman - Legend in training"

"Cowshed Barmy Army"

"There's only 1 Paul McGowan"

The flag is about 5 ft by 2 ft so any graphics of the crest I have won't scale up in great detail... shame.

Steve

How about


MORTON
mortonjag 2007-02-02 06:31:43
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Feb 1 2007, 11:38 PM) [snapback]228294[/snapback]
He won't have any difficulty getting locum jobs, though.

One of my sis' friends met him whilst doing a stint at Wishaw - he seemed quite pissed off that she had no idea who he was, even after telling her that he was Kenny Deuchar and played for Gretna.
I think her killer line was 'Oh, that's nice. I'm not really interested in football though' laugh.gif

Laura we don't talk about 'locums' in football-what you meant to say was that he was 'on loan' to Wishaw Juniors.

Doctor Deuchar seems to be a somewhat unfulfilled little boy-I wonder if that's the same as a spoiled brat.
mortonjag 2007-02-02 06:33:51
QUOTE(McMenamie @ Feb 1 2007, 11:47 PM) [snapback]228309[/snapback]
With Foran leaving the well and Mcdonald peed off at not geting a move do you think our chance of a cup upset has

increased anyi personaly think Mcdonald will not be in the mood to raise his game

or motherwell might drop him (we hope)

I think it's just the same as for the Killie game-it's how WE play that will matter. My one concern is that Lilley's gone while Linn is 'cup tied'.
mortonjag 2007-02-02 06:37:43
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Feb 1 2007, 11:08 PM) [snapback]228261[/snapback]
Aye, but you might be myopic (short-sighted) and astigmatic (have funny shaped eyeballs)

As someone's already said, talk to yer optician.
Personally, the consent form you have to sign would put me off.

Especially if you're an astigmatic myope..

..sounds like the archetypal Skunk to me.
mortonjag 2007-02-02 06:54:52
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 2 2007, 12:05 AM) [snapback]228323[/snapback]
Do doctors perform these operations ? It's a fact that out of all the professions, doctors have the highest incidences of chronic psychoses, alcoholism, drug dependency and suicides.
That given, who in their right mind would let them come within striking distance ? Can you imagine the likes of Mad Dr Mortonjag with a laser gun ?
Not for me thanks, I'll stick with my specs. laugh.gif

Your specs and fingers are indeed more lethal that my laser gun DE, and your 'facts', though popularly accepted, require urgent statistical rescrutiny.

For example, what is meant those days by 'a profession'. That was a term once reserved for doctors, lawyers hookers et al, but it seems that anything goes now.

In terms of the 'real' professions, doctors undoubtedly have a high level of alcoholism, drug dependency and suicide, although they have much easier access to the latter two than most.

Where do you get your figures for 'chronic psychoses'?

The clergy for example are notoriously reluctant to seek psychological help, as they reckon their boss should 'sort everything', but in my opinion most of them are f*cking nutters.

Lawyers in general are acquisitive psychopaths.

Accountants are anally retentive and suffer from OCD.

Teachers-those people who never leave school-live in a fantasy world and crack up when faced with reality.

To get back to your question-do doctors perform eye laser surgery-don't be daft-doctors are far too busy filling out forms to fiddle their performance stats for a government which has done more to f*ck the NHS than the previous half dozen.

mortonjag 2007-02-02 07:55:36
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 2 2007, 07:42 AM) [snapback]228364[/snapback]
Straight out of the ether. I jest. Mind you, some of your posts give me grounds for suspicion at least. biggrin.gif

Your suspicions are well founded-I am unashamed! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-02 08:28:06
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 2 2007, 08:16 AM) [snapback]228372[/snapback]
A profession is described as something the general public requires that they can't do themselves. Docters, dentists, accountancts, auditors, lawyers etc.

oh, and PROFESSIONAL footballers.

Nowadays puggsy 'profession' just means 'job', though some people still attach kudos to the word- for example 'have your nail extensions done 'professionally'!

'THE professions', however, is still taken to refer to those disciplines like law, medicine, theology and so on, which were based on a degree at a traditonal university.
mortonjag 2007-02-02 08:32:53
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 2 2007, 08:15 AM) [snapback]228371[/snapback]
This woke me up at half 7 this morning wondering what the f*** I was talking about... 6 months from graduating with a Chemisty degree to having 5 carbons in Ethanol. blink.gif

I only noticed because we used to write C2H5OH in notes as a euphemism for an 'alcoholic'.
mortonjag 2007-02-02 08:43:32 'LIVING THE DREAM'-this time it's a REAL football club too!
mortonjag 2007-02-02 08:58:03
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 2 2007, 08:51 AM) [snapback]228384[/snapback]
3 oz Bacardi rum
1 oz Blue Curacau
2 tbl Spearmint infused simple syrup
2 tbl Fresh lime juice
Blend over ½ cup ice
Serve with fresh spearmint and orange slice

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED...and the name?
mortonjag 2007-02-02 09:04:18
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 2 2007, 08:58 AM) [snapback]228389[/snapback]
Come The Ton, let's make Scottish football sit up and take notice by putting another SPL team out the cup.

You'll be running out top a great site of 4000 fans and a thousand blue, white and yellow balloons in the air. On top of that you may even get a trip of nostalga with a bog roll or two getting chucked onto the field laugh.gif

Relax and enjoy the day and the game will take care of itself.
Come on Without
Come on Within
You ain't seen nothing
Like Our Templeman

Manfred Mann eh!

He (Bobby) won't be playing tomorrrow but for Templeman you could substitute 'Bobby Linn'.
mortonjag 2007-02-02 09:08:01
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 2 2007, 09:04 AM) [snapback]228392[/snapback]
The gay Morton tongue.gif

Yes it does look quite a gay little concoction, and I bet after a couple of those you'd be feeling a bit queer!
mortonjag 2007-02-02 09:10:46
QUOTE(Boutros @ Feb 2 2007, 09:07 AM) [snapback]228395[/snapback]
I definitely wouldn't say mine is a "horror story" but if you dont wanna know what can potentially go wrong and what they'll do on the day then I'd stop reading now.
I was at Optical Express and cant speak highly enough of the staff there, the nurses there especially were excellent.
My prescription was pretty strong and I had one eye short sighted, one eye long sighted, I had Intralase wavefront Lasik treatment.
First off they give you an iris scan so the laser can line up with your eye correctly when you lie down. they put the scanned image on a usb key and plug it into the laser.
So Im lying down, anasthetic in the eyes when they say the scan isnt good enough, up I get to go for another one, they take 3 just incase.
5 minutes later they say the scan wasnt good enough either, apparently my pupils are very large so they were getting too much pupil, not enough iris.
Anyway, 15 scans later (a world record apparently) we're ready to go.
The surgery itself is painless, though a little uncpomfortable at times when they put the kinda clamp thing on to keep your eyes open, there's also some sort of suction thingy, not sore but they do have to press down on your eye quite hard which isnt comfortable.
The laser section itself is totally painless, infact if it wasnt for the noise and the flashing light you wouldnt even know anything was happening and once the surgery is over I felt fine straight away.
My eyes did become really sensitive shortly after surgery though.
On the way down the road I had my eyes closed, my dads sunglassses on (dont drive yourself bytheway) and my hands over my eyes but even then a car driving the other way with its headlights on was uncomfortable.
The light on the oven clock that night hurt my eyes too.
I had a lens put on my right eye to hold the flap in place so I went up the next day to get it out and have my post-surgery check-up.
The surgeon said the flap on the right eye wasnt as rounded as he'd like so he wanted to do corrective surgery, this is very rare so dont let it put you off.
Unlike the original treatment, the corrective surgery was painful. It involved lifting up the flap again and reshapping it (I think), couldnt really see what was going on as they were constantly spraying liquid on my eye, it did involve a needle a lot though, not very pleasent.
While the surgoeon was doing this he damaged some cells right in the middle of the eye so i had to wait a week or so for those to heal before the vision started to get better.
That was about a month ago and while my recovery's been slower than most people because of these complications it's definitely getting better, I'd say another week maybe before it's sorted completely.
I'd still get it done again despite all of that.

Your avator will now require amendment to something more enlightened Sir.
mortonjag 2007-02-02 09:21:11
QUOTE(amy @ Jul 26 2006, 09:33 AM) [snapback]160761[/snapback]
So what you all listening to am on the look out for new tunes to listen to.

Iv got Ray LaMontagne on at the moment he's pretty good.

smile.gif smile.gif cool.gif smile.gif smile.gif

Happiness is like a butterfly:
the more you chase it,
the more it will elude you,
but if you turn your attention to other things,
it will come and sit softly on your shoulder.

and as you try to grasp it,
enjoy it, and have it for your own
like a woman it will flutter off for ever.
mortonjag 2007-02-02 09:32:18 Nowadays the 'Security Firm' rules-rich gangsters paying peanuts to keep poorer Neds out.

When I was a kid I used to love the sight of a night watchman huddled over a glowing brazier-just an emty oil drum with holes knocked in it-and filled with glowing coke-YES coke!!

It used to look very cosy, but then most things did in those days.
mortonjag 2007-02-02 09:36:37
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 2 2007, 09:25 AM) [snapback]228401[/snapback]
Name ? Hmmm What about the Mortini ?

Excellent-Mortini azzuro-we have a new cocktail.
mortonjag 2007-02-02 09:55:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 2 2007, 09:38 AM) [snapback]228409[/snapback]
and not just night watchmen.

road works gangs during the day,

glowing coke - what a sight, what a smell

smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

'Can it be that it was all so simple then,
or has time... sleep.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-02 10:03:45
QUOTE(Muz @ Feb 2 2007, 09:13 AM) [snapback]228398[/snapback]
To be fair it wasnt that bad- that was my first game since October. It was only 10ft wide laugh.gif

Nice to see you getting back to the topic of Alexander's cakehole.
mortonjag 2007-02-02 10:12:45 Tommy came to us from Motherwell back in the seventies-a fast and nippy right winger. He had a spell with Arsenal, successfully managed Walsall for a couple of seasons, and then moved to a golfing business. I remember we also got Hugh Strachan from 'Well' and of course young Russell was there, but over the years they don't seem to have provided us with many players.
mortonjag 2007-02-02 10:17:21
QUOTE(Roger Mellie @ Feb 2 2007, 10:14 AM) [snapback]228423[/snapback]
A "fantasy book" Nacho.

That a youngsters name for a scud mag then?

rolleyes.gif

Naw-Hansard.
mortonjag 2007-02-02 10:29:44
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 2 2007, 10:19 AM) [snapback]228425[/snapback]
Good.

On yer bike smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-02 10:32:28
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 2 2007, 10:00 AM) [snapback]228419[/snapback]
I think the new film is being made by Dreamworks (Spielperg's company?) so the chances of it being a disaster are hopefully pretty slim.

Good
mortonjag 2007-02-02 10:46:08
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 2 2007, 09:47 AM) [snapback]228416[/snapback]
The beer's a bit expensive. You should move her over here.

Really
mortonjag 2007-02-02 10:47:58
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 2 2007, 10:46 AM) [snapback]228438[/snapback]
MON THE TON

i haven't been this excited about a game since peterhead in 2003. dare i say it... got a good feeling about this one.

we're due a cup run

Lags 2-screws 1
mortonjag 2007-02-02 11:12:37
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 2 2007, 11:05 AM) [snapback]228448[/snapback]
laugh.gif Gotta say, that was quite funny for you tongue.gif

wub.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-03 08:17:14
QUOTE(Tom McB @ Feb 2 2007, 04:23 PM) [snapback]228609[/snapback]
Don't be daft I was jist pointing out that your statement about tories and football was your usual tendentious p1sh. rolleyes.gif

As for rosie being a hooker. You really must be joking, even Jeffrey Archer wouldnae. wink.gif

wouldnae whit?-that man would desecrate the day of judgement-and as for describing wee Rosie as a 'part time' hooker-I retract-the lady has all the hallmarks of a true pro.
mortonjag 2007-02-03 08:29:28
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 2 2007, 01:37 PM) [snapback]228530[/snapback]
About 18 months ago I went over my ankle (while pished may I add) and it's never healed properly. It's still weak, puffy and has an almost constant dull pain in it.

Casualty were their usual helpful selves (free tubigrip and paracetamol - sweet) but my GP has been a joke. It hadn't healed after a year so I went to see him and was basically told he couldn't (more like wouldn't) do anything as it had "been a year so it's as good as it's going to get" and that if I didn't want to hurt it again I should stop playing football. I've given it another 6 months with no improvement and I'm starting to worry about arthritis but, more serious, I want to play football again (no cheek Muz).

With that in mind, has anyone else had a similar problem and could anyone recommend someone who could help me? There's always someone on here with an answer for everything, so I await Mortonjag's response.

Cheeeky boy-you don't deserve my professional assessment but I'm in a good mood---

You haven't said what the original diagnosis was, and whether it was x-rayed and/or scanned.

Your symptoms are those of chronic soft tissue inflammation. I suspect the original injury was an incomplete ligament tear, and those are notorious for healing poorly.

Although physio. would help, it's extremely important to establish the correct diagnosis-AS OF NOW.

Given that it IS a ligamentous/soft tissue injury and not related to bone or joint (which you are worrying about), it might need immobilisation for a while (maybe even in a 'stookie'), before it can heal properly.

In the meantime, provided there are no contraindications, you'd benefit from anti-inflammatory drugs, which, if necessary, can be used in combination with traditional pain killers like codeine.

I agree with you-the medical profession often hasn't a clue when it comes to analgesia, and for this sort of thing paracetamol are as good as Smarties.
mortonjag 2007-02-03 08:36:52
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Feb 2 2007, 10:20 PM) [snapback]228780[/snapback]
What is it about a brazier that makes you so dewy eyed?

Get a life, the less braziers we have then the more reggae music we'll have.

Think about it.

It's not the braziers-it's the Coke man-oh an that reggae music.
mortonjag 2007-02-03 08:40:04 Boys will be boys-the only thing that's changed is that when something goes wrong nowadays, somebody else is always to blame.
mortonjag 2007-02-03 08:49:21 Weather forecast is tremendous for the time of year-the atmosphere should be electric, playing conditions good, and as long as the boys keep their belief, we can get a result.
mortonjag 2007-02-03 09:17:47
QUOTE(Mfc_mad @ Feb 2 2007, 02:45 PM) [snapback]228566[/snapback]
Well ladies and gents what are we all thinking for tomorrows cup tie? Think you'll give us a hard time, and it will be a fantastic cup tie, but i think motherwell will edge it. we've all seen what can happen if you underesimate a lower league team, and as its motherwell, i think you have a fair chance. And after all it is a cup game, anything can happen. rolleyes.gif

IF we get the 'rub o' the green', we'll probably score early against you-there's no way we're going to hang back and try to contain you from the kick off.

Then you'll have to take the game to us and you'll find our midfield are as good as you sometimes have to face in the SPL.

If you score first, we'll have it all to do and will find it hard to come back, but look what happened to Killie.
mortonjag 2007-02-03 09:22:31
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 3 2007, 09:18 AM) [snapback]228887[/snapback]
Who let Douglas Rae onto Mortonjag's computer?

Drat-my cover's finally blown-'Crawford-where are my thermal underpants-we'll need to head off soon-oh, and I sincerely hope you're up for it son.
mortonjag 2007-02-03 09:29:32
QUOTE(WullTon @ Feb 2 2007, 01:42 PM) [snapback]228537[/snapback]
Theres only one McInally biggrin.gif !!!

What happened to the rest-thought they bred like rabbits!
mortonjag 2007-02-03 09:41:53
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 3 2007, 01:36 AM) [snapback]228843[/snapback]
On the 3 Ton of memories DVD there's footage of the 1948 Cup final v Rangers. The crowd was 130,000 and when Morton's goal goes in half of the stadium goes mad. According to my Granny and Granda (who both went) that was a real cup tie where the whole of Greenock left the town to watch it.

Yes all 130, 000 left Greenock-well not quite-I guess there may have been 30,000 or 40,000 genuine Morton supporters at that game-still a fantastic number, but the bulk of the crowd was composed of Huns, and Tims who wanted the Ton to scud them.
mortonjag 2007-02-03 09:52:20 ...and we draw Deveronvale at Scapa... wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-03 10:11:17
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Feb 3 2007, 10:04 AM) [snapback]228917[/snapback]
Best thing about this being an away game, we dont have to put up with chairman orifice prattling on.

Narky Arky never misses a trick!

Don't count your chickens-I wouldn't put it past him to appear on the turf at Fir Park to say how pleased he is to be there.
mortonjag 2007-02-03 10:36:13
QUOTE(capello @ Feb 3 2007, 01:05 AM) [snapback]228839[/snapback]
In the last hour been listening to some Inxs,del amitri,the undertones,james,big country,simple minds,silencers,goodbye mr mckenzie,franz ferdinand,blue nile.
Thats the beauty of file sharing biggrin.gif !!!
Also had a visit to tontastics chatroom!!

Ever tried Beethoven or Mozart
mortonjag 2007-02-03 10:55:31 Tramp's standing outside posh golf club, when Mr Rich arrives in the Rolls.

He's admiring the car as the owner unloads his kit, when a couple of golf tees fall out of the bag.

What are those, says the tramp.

Those, my man, are for resting ones balls on as one drives.

Geez, he says, cars have come on a long way!
mortonjag 2007-02-03 10:59:46
QUOTE(Sammario @ Feb 3 2007, 10:57 AM) [snapback]228943[/snapback]
Your fears dont get on my tits. read it again. YOU get on my tits!! Ya tit.

Stop tittering-I mean bickering ya pair of dummies! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-04 10:12:43
QUOTE(jpmil @ Feb 4 2007, 09:58 AM) [snapback]229263[/snapback]
I agree totally that we were more street wise than us and bullied us off the park but this will be the norm for next season and it is an area in which we are lightweight. I think all of us have known this for a long time but Jim has not remedied it and I should hope that this will be his main target for strengthening in the close season.

I also thought (yet again) that Underhill does not impress me as a toplevel referee and on yestreday's showing he seemed a real "homer".

Underhill has a fetish for 'letting the game flow'-he dishes out the least yellow card of all Scottish refs, and I wish there were more like him.

That said, he did seem to give a hell of a lot of 50/50's to 'Well yesterday.

My thoughts on the game-not much different from what's been said already. Motherwell are not a great SPL side, but unlike Killie, their boys kept it simple, and we were never going to win this in a month of Sundays.

JM's done well in many areas, but hopefully this game will focus his attention on the glaring deficiencies which need to be redressed before we can see ourselves as SPL contenders.
mortonjag 2007-02-05 07:50:05
QUOTE(capello @ Feb 4 2007, 07:39 PM) [snapback]229397[/snapback]
No ,dont like classical music,thats for the old farts like yourself!! tongue.gif

What you mean is you've never tried to like it I suspect. A lot of it is s***e IMO, but equally much of it will still be around when the mince you drool over is long dead and gone.

I DO like some popular music too-in fact I'd go as far as to say that some of it can even be musical.
mortonjag 2007-02-05 07:58:49
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 4 2007, 12:04 AM) [snapback]229214[/snapback]
If anything, the highlights just show how close the match actually was. Neither team had that many chances but Motherwell buried two of theirs. Their first goal was a well taken but the boy got the break of the ball and then hit a shot into the postage stamp that nine times out of ten would have ended up in the stand. Good goal though.

Their second, to me looks like a foul on Greacen by MacDonald in the lead up to it. The ball took a bad bounce but MacDonald made the most of it by pushing big Stu and the ref let him away with it.

Its all ifs, but if Templeman had connected with Finlaysons cross early on, if McGowan's lob had been on target instead of just slipping wide, if Spoonsy had been able to poke home Templemans head flick.

The boys did not let anyone down today and I hope we turn out in numbers next week for the Brechin game and win it well - the teams deserves it.

I disagree-well I suppose I would, wouldn't I!

How can HIGHLIGHTS ever show the whole of a game. Motherwell never looked uncomfortable, and we never looked convincing.

Having said that, I DO agree the game did not go kindly for us, and on another day we could have stolen it.
mortonjag 2007-02-05 08:05:14
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 4 2007, 06:09 PM) [snapback]229357[/snapback]
I was really chuffed with the supporters who were tremendous , I was in the lower tier of the stand so couldn't see how busy it was up top . Spoke to a few lads and they were at the back and they were saying that not everyone had a seat . No matter how many we had it was an excellent turnout and great atmosphere.
Like everyone has said was abit concerned by the underestimation of the turnstill capacity , we had got to the ground at about 12; 40 so we went into the Fir Park club for a small aperatif before the game . We left there at 14;10 as the chances of getting served were slim to none . We promptly joined the queue , we didn't get into the ground until 14;45 . We were all commenting on anyone coming at 10 to kick off would have had no chance of getting in on time.
Motherwell did show us that even though the ball is up the other end you need concentration all over the park . I suppose McDonald had a point to prove .
On a positive for us has to be the display by McLaughlin who more than held his own in SPL company . Jim McAllister also showed flashes of his undoubted skill and must have relished the prospect of playing against one rather in the league where he is usually doubled up on .
We had a few half chances but never looked as capable of scoring as Motherwell .
Mr Underhill did seem to air on the side of caution when it came to giving us the benefit of the doubt .
This game isin't one that we should gauge the team , we had already played above our standards in the previous round . Motherwell had the obvious advantage of playing at home if the game was at Cappielow I think we would have given them more problems .
Lets now all get our mindset on the league , hopefully we can push for promotion and make it a good season .

Every time I watch Scott McLaughlin I feel like strangling him-he's SO good at some things, but usually makes a complete fanny of himself with a wasteful final ball. Hopefully that will improve.
mortonjag 2007-02-05 08:09:31
QUOTE(Argyllton @ Feb 4 2007, 09:02 AM) [snapback]229255[/snapback]
My brother and I got in for a tenner each at 3.15, as there was no change, I wonder if Morton will suffer financially due to Motherwells incompetence!

We went through the first non concession turnstyle at about 2.55. The guy was embarrassed-had no change, and neither did we. He let us both in for £30.
mortonjag 2007-02-05 08:26:45 Shambolic is the understatement of the season.

What in Christ's name is the point in having all this new stadium red tape, when a so called 'acceptable' SPL stadium can't cater for the visit of a second division club mid way through a cup campaign?

From beginning to end it was a catalogue of incompetence from the club, the stewarding, and the Police.

To arrive at 2.20, dump the motor nearly a mile away knowing they have NO proper parking facilities, walk briskly for ten minutes, and find ourselves at the end of a queue some 600 yards long and about six wide, was a complete farce.

To discover that the queue at that point was totally bereft of Police or stewards, as several arseholes gave us the'vicky' and swanned past on our left was enraging.

To find that our players who had been all keyed up for the game then had to twiddle their thumbs in frustration at a needless delay, and that many of our fans still did not see the kick off is unforgiveable.

Motherwell FC, Strathclyde Police, and the Stewarding company have a lot to answer for, and for once I hope DDFR gets it 'right up' the lot of them in his inimitable style.

The fact that 'nothing went wrong' is totally irrelevant-it could have been very different.
mortonjag 2007-02-05 09:00:13 TBH I think some of you need a reality check.

When we blew a comfortable lead in the league, and guys like myself, Willowman, and Chrissiboi had the audacity to ask questions we were repeatedly shot down in flames.

We're still a second division club-JM is still an inexperienced manager-but against Killie we showed that we're nobody's fool.

Things didn't go right for us on Saturday-the Bookies were not surprised along with pretty well the rest of 'Scottish football', that we didn't win against an SPL club for the second time, AND away from home.

What's the point in pulling individual players to pieces because your wee noses are out of joint.
We did not disgrace ourselves in any department, and even after the Killie result, the size and enthusiasm of our support opened many eyes.

We are on the way up, and we've proved we're big enough to be there.

We should be able to deal comfortably with Brechin on Saturday. THAT MATTERS, and if we do not, I'll be back to my nasty questions.
mortonjag 2007-02-05 09:16:01 We humped Killie, and were not disgraced on Saturday.

Now , as you guys say, it's back to the grind, especially thanks to a Chris Aitken penalty in injury time for the Binos.

It'll interest me to see how many turn up for a game that matters far more than the one at Motherwell.

The lads will inevitably be in 'anti climax' this week, and will need our support more than ever. They should be getting praise from us all for their efforts in the cup, and not the individual criticism we've been seeing on other threads.

We are not yet better than 'Well', but we certainly can beat Brechin, so let's get last Saturday buried ASAP.
mortonjag 2007-02-05 09:23:04 The Scottish Cup is clearly much poorer with Saturday's demise of Gre£na-or IS IT? rolleyes.gif

Funny that almost nobody seemed to notice the ignominious little bumpkins sneaking back to their rabbit warrens.

MILESON-what's going on-splash more cash you mean bastard-several hundred souls have lost the will to live! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-05 09:38:56 The last two comments say it all-PERCEPTION.

If somebody shows you a box of chocolates with the top layer full but the bottom layer packed with paper, you'll still be looking forward to guzzling the whole box!

Fir park had plenty of empty seats on Saturday-oh, and for the record Street Walker, the tannoy WAS s***e !!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-05 10:56:01 ..and I wish the disappointed wee weans who can't put things in perspective would run back to their Mammies instead of venting their spleen on a squad of youngsters who gave everything they had.

We are Morton, and we can hold our heads up high-we do not claim to be an SPL side, and Saturday proved we've a long way to go, but compare our current attitude to our loss of composure last season against Peterhead, and even in several games earlier this season.

We need to maintain the momentum and clinch the promotion we thoroughly deserve, and pulling the lads to pieces for doing their best is just pointless.
mortonjag 2007-02-05 12:53:01 ..and maybe those new pills are finally taking effect! smile.gif

mortonjag 2007-02-05 12:56:34 Peeing in a sink and thoroughly flushing it afterwards is actually far more hygeinic than using the average poorly drained public urinal.

Normal urine is completely sterile and can, if you so desire, be drunk in small quantities with impunity.
mortonjag 2007-02-05 19:46:38 Mathers

Finlayson Harding Greacen Keenan

Weatherson Walker Stevenson Russell

Templeman Linn



Subs: McGurn, McGregor, Millar, McAlister.


mortonjag 2007-02-05 19:53:14
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Feb 5 2007, 03:41 PM) [snapback]229701[/snapback]
and not forgetting a large bar of galaxy mate!

F*cking Philistines-I bet you two put lemonade in your whisky as well.
mortonjag 2007-02-05 20:05:27
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 5 2007, 08:00 PM) [snapback]229788[/snapback]
I do believe that Motherwell were the better team on the day but we did get a few decent chances, none of which we converted. As I say, they were better but we were not totally outclassed as some would have you believe.

I find myself agreeing with you again although, personally, I prefer to think of it as you having come round to my way of thinking!!!

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mortonjag 2007-02-05 20:10:14
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 5 2007, 05:37 PM) [snapback]229747[/snapback]
For a "normal"
FFS, nach0king, "normal" ... she comes from Tasmania.

More inbred than New Zealand, mate, because Tasmania had apple trees rather than sheep.

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Just adds another branch to the 'Royal' family, and someone Plinth Charles could converse meaningfully with I suspect.
mortonjag 2007-02-05 20:29:47
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 5 2007, 01:04 PM) [snapback]229604[/snapback]
Peeing in a sink is far better than s***ing in a church as I had the misfortune of seeing 1 very drunk ton fan 'performing' this act just down from the ground.

The steam coming up from the wall should have been the giveaway. laugh.gif

Holy s***! huh.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-05 20:39:29
QUOTE(Savo @ Feb 5 2007, 08:29 PM) [snapback]229796[/snapback]
Couldn't disagree more. Surely your opening remark is more than a little snide.

Scott McLaughlin was left with no option other than to try and carry the fight to the opposition on Saturday. Thank God he did otherwise the middle of the pitch would have been utter carnage from our point of view.

As for only 'we've only lost when Scott's started the game' - hardly surprising since the guy plays practically every week. Furthermore; in terms of defeats, how many are we talking about?

When Walker's started we're unbeaten you say - but how many times has he featured from the beginning of a game? Maybe you'd be better asking why it is that he doesn't get a start. No way is he stronger than McLaughlin, physically or mentally in my opinion.

In some ways I agree with both of you, but I DO understand where DOT's coming from. McLaughlin's well worth his place in the team IMO, but the sooner he realises he is NOT a creative player, and sticks to what he's good at the better for all concerned.

I remember one occasion in particular on Saturday when Jimbo was in space, and well placed to start a run-he had nobody directly on him-but Scotty insisted on getting a square ball which he then needlessly squandered-as he often does.

I think Scott is one of our best 'muckers'-he does a power of work breaking up the opposition, and he reads them very early, but apart from the occasionally successful speculative drive, he's a waste of space going forward.
mortonjag 2007-02-05 21:33:56
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 5 2007, 08:55 PM) [snapback]229803[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

she is married to Prince Fred of Denmark, mate.

The place that Erik Sorensen came from.

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And a nice place too-more pigs than people I believe-only been once, but would love to go back one day.
mortonjag 2007-02-05 21:44:55 It's a moron mentality that assaults a stranger with no genuine provocation, and anyone who condones such behaviour is as bad as the offender IMO.
mortonjag 2007-02-05 23:10:06
QUOTE(Cockney_Reject @ Feb 5 2007, 10:37 PM) [snapback]229850[/snapback]
Dealt with for what exactly, most lads at the scene of the crime never got so much as punch in. What happened to Puggs is unfortunate and I'm sorry that he got punched however a complete meal is being made of this petty incident.

You contradict yourself, and what's your agenda on our forum anyway?

You're 'sorry' somebody was assaulted but you simultaneously condone the 'petty' incident.

As I said earlier those who condone moronic behaviour are just as guilty as the perpetrators. Why don't you identify yourself publicly, and then maybe you might just get a wee friendly clap from somebody?

Not that I would condone that, but you clearly wouldn't mind at all.
mortonjag 2007-02-06 07:35:41 and that wee chart on TV
says it's here 'til Saturday.

So all we poor 'SAD' syndrome sufferers can relax for a while.
mortonjag 2007-02-06 07:48:02
QUOTE(shedhead @ Feb 6 2007, 06:59 AM) [snapback]229880[/snapback]
Tigerjocks right Puggs . You aint the first , and you certainly wont be the last to get hit at a game of football . Look into the Tons history and you will seee its been going on for just about as long as fitbas been going . Does this mean it right ? . No of course it aint right . Human nature is flawed and there's loads a bumpers out there who will have a pop . Just be glad you,re from Greenock and tough enough to laugh it off .

shedhead, what you and others are doing is simply confusing the issue. Citing history does not justify violence, nor does it dilute the validity of puggsy's entirely legitimate complaint.

To say that he isn't the first, and certainly won't be the last to get 'hit' at a game of football is simply stating the obvious.

Had he been seriously injured or killed, that wouldn't have been a 'first' either.

Most football fans go to a match to watch football.

Those of you who in a significant minority are attempting to trivialise an episode of potentially violent thuggery, which you claim is the 'norm', or even 'acceptable', should be ashamed of yourselves.
mortonjag 2007-02-06 07:51:34
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 5 2007, 10:04 PM) [snapback]229831[/snapback]
Abuse is abuse is abuse. None of it can be condoned or justified. For the life of me I can't draw a moral distinction between abusive terms such as 'black bastard, fat bastard, baldy bastard, english bastard, paisley bastard etc etc. If you were one of the unjustly stereotyped 'bastards' targeted by such abuse I'm sure the hurt experienced would be the same. Equally, I can't understand the new laws identifying racially aggravated crime. If you carry out an unprovoked attack on a person of another race you'll get 6 months. If your victim is of the same race, you'll probably get let off with community service. I would mete out justice equitably. I would sentence both cases with 2 years hard labour.
I believe in equality and justice for all, regardless of race, religion, gender, sexual orientation or social status, unlike you it seems, Mr 'Rivers of Blood' Big Doc. I wonder if 4R stands for 'For Repatriation'.

Well said you fat bastard.
mortonjag 2007-02-06 07:54:50
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Feb 6 2007, 07:45 AM) [snapback]229883[/snapback]
Thick fog and frost here.

We've got a cold morning, but a glorious clear sky-I can still see a three quarter moon out the back, and Mr Sun's peepin' over the horizon on the other side-Summer beckons Taun Taun!! cool.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-06 07:59:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 6 2007, 01:50 AM) [snapback]229876[/snapback]
This can start a whole new tangent

Denmark - a nice place too-more pigs than people

New Zealand - a nice place too-more sheep than people

next ?

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Ireland-a nice place too-more tatties than people unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-06 08:04:21
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Feb 6 2007, 12:39 AM) [snapback]229867[/snapback]

That looks like Sanny celebrating his Killie goal!
mortonjag 2007-02-06 08:10:44 Heated argument
mortonjag 2007-02-06 08:32:39
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 6 2007, 08:23 AM) [snapback]229894[/snapback]
Thankyou. Today I shall eat all the pies. biggrin.gif

Happy birthday, you greedy fat young bastard.
mortonjag 2007-02-06 09:28:59
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Feb 6 2007, 06:58 AM) [snapback]229879[/snapback]
"tiny" boys like you couldn't cope with the one I've got coming laugh.gif

Nonsense-it ain't what you do it's the way that you do it-

at least a wise man once said that! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-06 09:31:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 4 2007, 09:48 PM) [snapback]229451[/snapback]
nae worries, Sanity.

I'll get the milk at the Tallies in Roxburgh Street ... or the Co-op in South Street or from Aulds in Brisbane Street or I'll pinch some of the pupils' milk at the Academy.

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...and if I had the chance to do it all again...
mortonjag 2007-02-06 09:33:38
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Feb 6 2007, 09:31 AM) [snapback]229900[/snapback]
was it not bananarama unsure.gif

You mean marbellaton's a plagiarist? sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-06 09:41:55
QUOTE(xangelx @ Feb 5 2007, 09:36 AM) [snapback]229529[/snapback]
Muse - Take a bow

..anarra an shoot them f*ckin' 'X factor' cowboys!
mortonjag 2007-02-06 09:45:44
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 6 2007, 09:37 AM) [snapback]229904[/snapback]
You canny call anyone fat!! Going by that picture of you on Tontastic, you're one hell of a huge c***!! tongue.gif

My cover's blown-well let me tell YOU something-I have a glandular illness, and I actually eat like a bird-well does it matter if it's a f*cking pelican? mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-07 06:26:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 6 2007, 10:10 AM) [snapback]229909[/snapback]
aren't Aulds in Brisbane Street still there ?

They were last July (I think)

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Aulds are still doing OK and have a wee presence in Lanarkshire as well as Inverclyde.
mortonjag 2007-02-07 06:39:31 What a load of weans we have on this board-jealous ones at that. Oh aye they think they're superstars with their quick wee playstation reactions as they putt putt their souped up scooters to nowhere in particular.

Just sit one of those guys in an F1 car and tell him to get on with it (after getting on his brown nappy).

Alonso's still too good for Hamilton IMO.
mortonjag 2007-02-07 06:48:30
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 6 2007, 05:26 PM) [snapback]230053[/snapback]
But, it was good enough for Gretna until Alibi brings them into the 21st century.

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Of course it was-a culture shock for the sophisticate Ton man-a paradise for 422.5 bumpkins.
mortonjag 2007-02-07 07:01:19 Several posters have already stated clearly that this issue is NOTHING to do with the actual degree of violence on Saturday.

Every year a substantial number of football 'fans' are killed or maimed in Britain, as a result of similar incidents which simply escalated, or where weapons suddenly appeared.

It has been stated that the Police were rapidly on hand at Motherwell. What might have happened otherwise is not known.

Will the next eejit who wants to argue the general from the particular please step up so that I can chiv him.
mortonjag 2007-02-07 07:09:20 Linn has surely got to open his account, and we're due a clean sheet. I'd love to see a barrowload, but Brechin still have a lot of belief, so

Morton 1 Brechin 0
mortonjag 2007-02-07 07:14:15
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Feb 7 2007, 04:11 AM) [snapback]230153[/snapback]
I don't see the problem with peeing in a sink , especially if the tap is running which will prevent the smell of stale urine , plus , I don't see why the public find it hygenic to wash their hands after peeing ; I shower regularly and all parts of my body are clean , so why should I need to wash my hands after handling my todger to widdle ?

Fair point-the hand washing facilities at most second division 'stadia' are likely to do far more damage to the average fan than his unwashed post pish mitts will do to anyone..
mortonjag 2007-02-07 07:17:45
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Feb 7 2007, 04:19 AM) [snapback]230154[/snapback]
I was a steward yesterday ( well , a guardian of the community ) and if someone racially abused me I would have taken action , I'm sure the female steward you are talking about here would have dealt with the situation appropriately too.

..Indeed..'Ah'll fat bastard ye, ya wee c*nt'...WALLOP. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-07 09:08:19
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 7 2007, 08:46 AM) [snapback]230175[/snapback]
There is some research on this matter already - I can't remember what the correlation was and with what, but it was some genetic feature and they found that (for example) people with their 2nd toe bigger than their big toe were more prone to alcoholism or something like that. Or maybe it was fingers, not toes.

It's a rule of thumb-sorry-that in about half the population the 1st, or 'big' toes are indeed the longest, a quarter have 1st and 2nd toes of about equal length, and a quarter have second toes which are longer than the first.

The problem in measuring toe length is that curvature varies greatly from one toe to another, and indeed some people have much more 'curly' toes than others.

Regarding genetics, Alibi, there are numerous associations between physical characteristics and specific disease, the trouble being that very few such associations ARE specific.

In other words, having a square belly button may make you 'statistically' more susceptible to deafness in the left ear, but unless numerous other genetic factors apply also, the wife will still get on your tits in the car.
mortonjag 2007-02-07 09:20:16 What's all the fuss about?

I would much rather Rangers and Celtic would BUY British players-there is absolutely no morality or allegiance to anyone or anybody when it comes to that, as the mindless majority drool over their imports.

If Murray wants to make a few bob selling daft banners to dafter eejits, I frankly couldn't give a f*ck.
mortonjag 2007-02-07 09:30:11
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 7 2007, 09:18 AM) [snapback]230188[/snapback]
Ahh, so the reason for my drinking problem isn’t because I love the stuff, it’s because my 2nd toe is bigger than my broadest toe laugh.gif

If your Willie's shorter than your middle finger, you've probably caught it in a machine at some point. (Willie that is) sleep.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-07 09:58:41
QUOTE(Davie @ Feb 7 2007, 09:39 AM) [snapback]230196[/snapback]
Ask the Motherwell lad who hit him.

He may be the only one who knows this.

I sincerely doubt if the 'Motherwell lad' knows very much at all.
mortonjag 2007-02-07 09:59:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 7 2007, 09:27 AM) [snapback]230193[/snapback]
from the lack of replies, I assume this type of behaviour is commonplace in the UK ?

We are breakfasting on potted head.
mortonjag 2007-02-07 10:01:46
QUOTE(lush @ Feb 7 2007, 09:45 AM) [snapback]230199[/snapback]
So you did catch it in a machine? tongue.gif

His middle finger has done so many naughty things-who knows how large it's got.
mortonjag 2007-02-07 10:19:10 Any diet which reduces your calorie intake to below your body requirement, especially if combined with sensible moderate exercise-like brisk walking- will guarantee weight loss.

Joining clubs is expensive, but helps with motivation. Buying specialised diet books is often a waste of cash as they tend to be very 'one sided'-if I had to reccommend one the new 'F-plan' is the most well balanced IMO.

Get a decent calorie counter, and always weigh your food-cut right down on alcohol, refined carbohydrate, (the bakers) dairy produce, and saturated fats, (the butchers), and concentrate on a high fibre intake (with plenty of fluid such as water or diet drinks), a moderate intake of lean protein (e.g. poultry, fish, and occasional lean red meat), and go daft on fruit and vegetables.

Don't set your calorie limit too low or you'll get pissed off-if you're of average height and weight, and do a reasonable amount of exercise-say walking briskly for 1/2 to 1 hour a day, you should achieve your target easily by the summer, and probably sooner than you expect at about 1500 calories a day.

Willow-don't forget alcohol has a disgustingly high calorie count-IN ALL FORMS-there is no escape from that one I'm afraid, and it ain't even nutritious!
mortonjag 2007-02-07 10:34:12
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Feb 7 2007, 10:31 AM) [snapback]230222[/snapback]
Poof

Healthy poof to you!
mortonjag 2007-02-07 10:37:19
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 7 2007, 10:33 AM) [snapback]230223[/snapback]
dieting's for fat bastards !!
that's all. rolleyes.gif

But many slim bastards just die younger by eating rubbish, smoking, and lazy living. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-07 17:50:44
QUOTE(tigerjock @ Feb 7 2007, 05:38 PM) [snapback]230383[/snapback]
Two points that baffles me is that when the ob screeched to a halt did they not nick said hard ticket, or did he do a runner ?

Also did you make a complaint to the police that arrived ?

One observation puggsy, after what you and your mate have posted regarding legging it, i'd seriously think about who my real mates are, you both seem to think that it's quite funny that you got left on your own, is this common with your generation and why does your mate think it's hilarious, i'd have had serious uprock with the cooont.

No matter what the odds you don't leave your mate to take a slap, dig, gubbing what ever you want to call it, a good mate would have stood with you .......no excuses.

Step up Sir Walter f*ckin' Raleigh!

It seems we only have two mentalities on this thread-those who see the whole thing as deplorable, and those who want to put in their tuppenceworth as knowledgeable members of the scum culture who behave in this way.

So somebody assaulted puggsy for no reason, and with no provocation, and suddenly everybody's assaulting him on the thread for daring to complain.

It's always easy to be wise after the fact, and I'm getting sick and tired of the 'Yes you were assaulted-BUT'- brigade.

If it had been one of your children, girfriends, or wives who had been treated in EXACTLY the same way, it would be a very different story.
mortonjag 2007-02-07 17:55:10
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 6 2007, 05:28 PM) [snapback]230055[/snapback]
Oh to be perfect.
Self righteous, sanctimonious and somewhat inaccurate again.

Gates opened at 14:10, there was already 1500+ waiting on these gates to open.

I arrived at 14:15 and realised that I would struggle to gain entry by kick-off and very selfishly decided to manoeuvre myself to a more favourable position.

So I wasn't late, it was Motherwell FC's and the Motherwell police's fault for having limited knowledge of how to deal with a very large cash paying support.

Anyway, I ended up in front of you, and if that pisses you off, well tough, your fault for letting me by.

Aye, and your the c*nt who got my Granny drowned on the Titanic.
mortonjag 2007-02-07 18:01:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 7 2007, 04:47 PM) [snapback]230370[/snapback]
I prefer monkey's brains.

My avator and companion is not amused.
mortonjag 2007-02-07 18:02:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 7 2007, 04:46 PM) [snapback]230369[/snapback]
the big toe of my left foot is much bigger than the big toe of my right foot.

I broke it in coming down from a yoga head stand about two years ago.

Will it always be swollen ??



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Only 'til you pop your clogs.
mortonjag 2007-02-07 18:09:07
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Feb 7 2007, 02:24 PM) [snapback]230315[/snapback]
Was chatting to a college in work the other week who is a jambo about what is happening up that way and he was saying he fears that they may go the same way as the ton and I was looking at it

s*** promised the earth and SPL football (romanoff has promised Europein football)

the Tilly was band from Cappilow ( Sky wher band form the last press confrance)

He brought in his family as directors of the club (ditio)

S*** was going to invest in Killmarnock ( rhomanoff withe Dundee)
best Players started to levee the club

Fans started to stay away

Fans started to Question his management of the club and where band form the ground ( don't know if this has happend at Harts yet)
what do you all think

Both are apparently money orientated psychopaths for whom football is just a means to an end.
If Romanov can make plenty of dosh AND keep Hearts buoyant at least the Jambos may be able to swallow what's becoming the joke of Scottish football. Frankly I believe that to be highly improbable.
mortonjag 2007-02-07 18:21:22
QUOTE(Patg @ Feb 7 2007, 04:43 PM) [snapback]230367[/snapback]
It is good funa and great for relieving stress (Picture it as a skunk fan and beat the s*** out of it smile.gif )

It is also a great way to get fit .. I just need to get off my ass and start using it again !!

Only negative once you buy it and get it all filled you could never sell it or move it . It weighs 20 stone and is a nightmare to try and move

Sounds like the mother in law.
mortonjag 2007-02-07 18:30:36 If your wee toe's significantly larger than your big toe, the best plan might be to buy some old gutties in the local charity shop, and personalise them with a pair of scissors.

As Gavin Hastings pointed out, brisk walking is just as good for you as running, provided you do enough and often enough, and running's sore on the joints.

The best walking shoes can be purchased in a shoe shop.
mortonjag 2007-02-07 18:33:10
QUOTE(dazza @ Feb 7 2007, 06:24 PM) [snapback]230393[/snapback]
Millar will be on the bench on sat wink.gif

Stevenson will be on the bench on Sat. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-07 18:54:14
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 7 2007, 06:44 PM) [snapback]230398[/snapback]
I don't wear clogs.

If I had worn clogs in my headstand I would not have broken my big toe in the first place.

laugh.gif laugh.gif

Yor head was intact then?

Wearing a Dutch cap?.
mortonjag 2007-02-07 19:02:55
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 7 2007, 06:52 PM) [snapback]230399[/snapback]
whit ?

cos someone ate their brains ?

laugh.gif laugh.gif

...because you demean the brotherhood of Simians-as his cousin was heard to say in Edinburgh Zoo, 'Am I my keeper's brother', or to paraphrase Jesus, 'insofar as you have eaten my monkey's brain, you have eaten mine'.

Big burny fire for you.
mortonjag 2007-02-07 19:18:51
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 7 2007, 07:06 PM) [snapback]230403[/snapback]
It is so good to know some people grew up in a protective bubble, or maybe some of our older posters just grew up in a more privileged environment.

I will re-iterate that this should not go on, but I’m afraid that is life and the fact the police where on hand and no complaint was made makes the entire thread irrelevant. Not that the police would be interested anyway, so having a go at people who take a pragmatic view of events is nonsensical.

The police were on hand and dealt with the situation, but 'weren't interested'. mellow.gif

Taking a 'pragmatic' view of thuggery is a 'cop out' if not directly condoning it IMO.

As for 'older posters' and 'more privileged environments', I can only speak for myself. Unlike much of today's youth, I was disciplined as a child, and taught some values. At the time I resented getting scolded and 'scudded', but on reflection I guess I was privileged compared to the scum whose indiscipline is apparently to be seen pragmatically.

Indeed Barbarossa, when rape is inevitable, lie back and enjoy it!
mortonjag 2007-02-07 19:21:43
QUOTE(Maxwell House @ Feb 7 2007, 07:11 PM) [snapback]230404[/snapback]
i was queueing up to go into the away end at fir park on saturday when i saw a shortarse stevie fulton lookalike with a ginger beard having a pish in the bushes. you lot may think that is perfectly acceptable but there were women and children present and i thought it was disgraceful.

i'll bet dennis nielsens done this before too. he wasnt even wearing a kilt either. where are the polis when you need them.

What make are your binoculars?
mortonjag 2007-02-07 19:29:36
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 7 2007, 07:12 PM) [snapback]230405[/snapback]
Thought you were old enough to be the entertainment on board.

Locked your Granny in a cupboard after stealing her clobber (them corsets are feckin murder) and sneaked aboard a lifeboat leaving the poor old girl without a paddle.
Did I manage to jook by you on Saturday? You wouldn't know, I was in stealth mode.

rolleyes.gif
oh-whatever turns you on-I suppose some people are just pathological cheats-no doubt you'd be first on the electric chair if you turned up at the end of the queue! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-07 20:52:29
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Feb 7 2007, 08:49 PM) [snapback]230425[/snapback]
god man you talk as if you are perfect, never done that before, pish outside christ no i'd rather piss down my legs. could have been more considerate and went further into the trees but ffs get off the high horse or is it a rockin horse rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

stalkin' horse-naebody can piss in peace.
mortonjag 2007-02-07 20:53:36
QUOTE(dazza @ Feb 7 2007, 08:25 PM) [snapback]230417[/snapback]
you sure?

are you? biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-07 20:59:36
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 7 2007, 08:49 PM) [snapback]230424[/snapback]
Two stone in two years may not sound a lot but I'd been around the 11-12 stone mark for the best part of a decade and my diet's never really changed.

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Strange how your dramatic weight gain has coincided with you being unleashed in Hungary.

Get back to the Willow every night and improve yer health.

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Not really unusual Bob; your bone growth doesn't stop 'til your mid to late twenties, which causes a drop in calorific need. Most guys are prone to putting on weight from 25 plus even if their eating/exercise habits remain the same.
mortonjag 2007-02-08 10:00:57
QUOTE(Rodder @ Feb 8 2007, 09:21 AM) [snapback]230508[/snapback]
Easiest way to measure how you are getting on when dieting and exercising is to use a measuring tape and take readings at 5 points on your body; thigh, hips, waist, chest & bicep.

As you tone up you should see the measurements change, this is a better indication on how you are doing that jumping on scales or checking your BMI.

That's not strictly true Rodder. If you're trying to build muscle and lose weight at the same time, your system is best, but for the average dieter muscle bulk doesn't increase that much, and jumping on the scales tells no lies.

BMI's are next to useless unless they are interpreted for individual frame, albeit they are better than nothing. The old trick of pinching your waistline tells you very quickly whether or not you're slimline!
mortonjag 2007-02-08 10:03:14
QUOTE(dazza @ Feb 7 2007, 09:27 PM) [snapback]230442[/snapback]
We will see;)

Ach-who cares-if you look at my selection further up the thread, you'll see I'd like to give a few regulars a wee rest, just to shake things up a bit, and give the others a chance.
mortonjag 2007-02-08 10:07:49 With the exception of Ross County-a nice place to go if the weather's OK mind you, that looks a HELL of a lot more civilised than Peterhead, Stranraer, etc., not just because of the distance involved, but because the grounds are at least half decent.
mortonjag 2007-02-08 10:21:07
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 8 2007, 10:09 AM) [snapback]230522[/snapback]
Not sure whether you were agreeing with me or having a go at me Honor - if it's the former then fair play to you, if it's the latter you might have misinterpreted what I was trying to say. (or I just might be s***e at trying to convey it - both could apply !)

TonInDublin

TID violence was always part of the football scene-the 'oldies' have NOT forgotten that.

What SEEMS to have changed is that much of the old nonsense was directly related to the liberal alcohol policies of the time-guys who might otherwise have avoided trouble joined in because they were not thinking straight.

Nowadays we have young hooligans and 'casuals' who deliberately set off on a Saturday, not to see a football match, but to satisfy their animal instincts at others' expense.
mortonjag 2007-02-08 10:25:16 Spoonsy nearly scored a pawnbroker.
mortonjag 2007-02-08 10:28:28
QUOTE(Rodder @ Feb 8 2007, 10:22 AM) [snapback]230531[/snapback]
Yeah but if you are trying to lose weight and not bulk up you will notice that your measurements reduce as the layer of fat on top of your muscles reduces.

Aye you see your belly shrinking! cool.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-08 10:32:02
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 8 2007, 10:29 AM) [snapback]230537[/snapback]
It's not a belly, it's a fuel tank for a love machine.

So how come those with the biggest supply go the shortest distances?
mortonjag 2007-02-08 10:36:06
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 8 2007, 10:35 AM) [snapback]230540[/snapback]
Efficiency.

Explain Einstein!
mortonjag 2007-02-08 10:40:57 Yesterday I drove up the coast from Fairlie to Largs for the first time in ages, and I could not BELIEVE the mushrooming of the Largs yacht marina-multi millions worth of boat with their masts blocking the horizon.

This is supposed to be a 'deprived' area, but there's money around for sure.
mortonjag 2007-02-08 10:50:21
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 8 2007, 10:46 AM) [snapback]230546[/snapback]
reading between the lines, it looks like old maxwell house is having a sly dig at a jakey of his acquaintance.

whatever, it's reassuring that such a large majority still thinks that pissing in a bush is a manly and respectable thing to do. if only the strathclyde and lothian police forces had the same opinion, i'd have spent that 75 quid in a more productive manner.

by the way, i contemplated peeing up a tree in the queue the other day, but i think adulthood or sobriety got the better of me.

If you didn't have me on ignore little chap, I could give you a few tips that might protect your wallet!
Nothing complicated like rear view mirrors or radar detectors mind you.
mortonjag 2007-02-08 11:16:45
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 8 2007, 11:04 AM) [snapback]230552[/snapback]
You should have carried on up the coast and popped into Inverkip Marina, where the change over the last few years makes it unrecognisable, oh nearly forgot that rich English Bastard Kevin Keegan lives there as well. laugh.gif

I knew about the Kip marina, but the last time I went down through Largs, there wasn't much to see-I wonder how many of the owners are Scottish-no doubt Colkitto or Alibi will have the register to hand! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-08 11:26:54
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Feb 8 2007, 11:22 AM) [snapback]230561[/snapback]
There is also the price factor to consider, is it not about £18 to go to Almondvale? I doubt Dens Park and McDiarmid are much different either. Going to away games will cost a fortune next season.

If you consider that the average distance to first division grounds is significantly less than at present, even allowing for an extra £6 over 18 matches, you'll only have to save around a hundred quid in travel expenditure to BE in pocket.
mortonjag 2007-02-08 11:30:21
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 8 2007, 11:19 AM) [snapback]230560[/snapback]
Keegan may be rich and English but he is, IMO, a gentleman, and I know he keeps track of the 'Ton's fortunes, too smile.gif

I think that in the case of KK we can use the word 'bastard' with a little affection-just a little mind!
mortonjag 2007-02-08 11:38:06
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 8 2007, 11:31 AM) [snapback]230568[/snapback]
Prices currently for 1st division clubs

Airdrie

Adults £15
Concessions £7
1 Adult + 1 Child £20

Clyde

Adults £14
Over 65's £7
Under 18's £5
Parent + 1 Child £18.
Dundee

All Areas Of The Ground:
Adults £16
Over 60's/Under 18's £8

Gretna

Seating:
Adults £14, Concessions £7.

Terrace:
Adults £12, Concessions £6.

Hamilton

Adults £14, Concessions £6.

Livingston

Adults: £18
Concessions: £10

Partick Thistle

All parts of the ground (Seating): Adults - £13*, Concessions £7

*For all ticket games this rises to £19.

Queen of the South

The Dumfries and Galloway Standard Stand
Adults £12, No concessions

All other areas of the ground:
Adults £10, Concessions £6

Ross County

Seating:
Adults £14, Concessions £6.

Terrace:
Adults £12, Concessions £5.

St Johnstnone

Home Fans:
Main Stand - Adults £18, Senior Citizens/Under 18's £10
East Stand - Adults £16, Senior Citizens £5, Under 18's £4

Away Fans:
Main Stand - Adults £18, Senior Citizens/Under 18's £10

As I suggested, I will save a significant amount on petrol-FAR more than I'll spend on those higher gate charges, and that's allowing for two of us paying to get in.
mortonjag 2007-02-08 11:50:33
QUOTE(Cartoon Head @ Feb 8 2007, 11:37 AM) [snapback]230573[/snapback]
So let me guess, somebody smacking a midget for no reason is wrong, but a midget pissing on someone elses property for no apparent reason is right?

If a midget's digit pisses on somebody else's property for no apparent reason, it won't get as wet as when a giant does it I'd imagine, although bladder capacity does come into the equation.

If a midget has to quietly spend a penny at a football match because he can't find a convenient lavvy, somebody else is taking the piss.
mortonjag 2007-02-08 11:55:10
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Feb 8 2007, 11:41 AM) [snapback]230578[/snapback]
I agree. Some of the history bending is astounding. My biggest fear is that a lot of people on here have no idea what they want from an independent Scotland other than a break from the union. This backward looking attitude kills off any hope of independence and leads to the obvious "braveheart" scaremongering.

Indeed-if we ever do achieve independence and f*** up, England will have nobody to blame but itself.
mortonjag 2007-02-08 12:21:15
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Feb 8 2007, 12:02 PM) [snapback]230584[/snapback]
Fan bloody tastic

Evil, brutal but ultimately a fantastic film

Forrest Wittaker is brilliant in it, so different from any other character you see him play

highly recommended

Yer jokin'-nothing like Donald Dewar that guy.
mortonjag 2007-02-08 19:02:51 Striker, striker, striker-all we heard for weeks on end, and now that we've got one, McInally's being accused of having to 'accommodate' him.

I said we did NOT need a striker, but now that the boy's here, we might as well use him.
mortonjag 2007-02-08 19:22:15
QUOTE(tigerjock @ Feb 8 2007, 02:33 PM) [snapback]230629[/snapback]
Taking a 'pragmatic' view of thuggery is a 'cop out' if not directly condoning it IMO.

Good to see you can't understand and have the comprehension that there just might be people out there who have a different opinion and have different life experiences and different standards

Mortonjag... you to are obviously one of the " i'm all right jack so fack everyone else" brigade.

If you were making your way back from a morton away game and one of your mates was getting a kicking would you help him, risking a kicking yourself or run away and leave him to his fate?
As barbarossa has implied it must be nice and comfy in your particular bubble

Attending morton from late 70's until early 90's was in itself am eye opening experience, i suppose what i'm trying to say is that whatever mates you went with became close due to traveling away and all the trouble there was at the time so you would stick together no matter what.

Trouble up to the mid 80's did not distinguish between scarfer and hoolie types but could come at you at any time from around any corner in any town or city...fact

You did not leave your mate to take a kicking...fact

Getting in amongst larger clubs brings the possibility of more hoolie types being attached to said clubs...fact

Using common sense when away incl drinking dens, travel methods, route to the ground,parking etc will reduce the chance of an un-savoury encounter...fact

Thank fook i don't go or have never went to away games with some of the sh1thouses that frequent this board

As far as I can see stripey cock, redbeard's 'pragmatism' was an acceptance that those things happen, and a statement that the Police don't care anyway.

That is not only a 'cop out' but an arrogant dismissal of any attempt at law enforcement.

Don't talk to me about life experiences and different standards unless you can give me examples of your vast exposure to such-I strongly suspect that you are the one in your protective little bubble.

You may think you are 'streetwise', yet you 'wouldn't leave your mate to get a kicking'.

Grow up son-if you had a grain of street wisdom about you, your chances of a kicking would be negligible.

The truth is that you subscribe to the same mentality as those you describe as 'hoolie' types-we WON'T get a 'doing' because we'll give THEM the doing.
mortonjag 2007-02-08 19:28:14
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 8 2007, 05:41 PM) [snapback]230687[/snapback]
Someone would have to test it and i'm sure you would offer to pull the switch. rolleyes.gif

If I was in charge it would have already been tested humanely on the population of Skunkville.
mortonjag 2007-02-08 19:43:33
QUOTE(Jackie @ Feb 8 2007, 04:28 PM) [snapback]230662[/snapback]
I've not confided in you lot before, but I really need your advice on what could be a crucial decision.

I've suspected for some time now that my wife has been cheating on me. The usual signs. The phone rings, but if I answer, the caller hangs up.

My wife has been going out with the girls a lot recently, although when I ask their names she always says,
"Just some friends from work. You don't know them."

I sometimes stay awake to look out for her cab coming home, but she always comes walking up the drive as I hear the sound of a car leaving around the corner, as if she has gotten out and walked the rest of the way.

Why? Maybe she wasn't in a taxi at all?

I once picked up her mobile phone, just to see what time it was. This caused her to go completely berserk. She quickly snatched the phone out of my hand and cursed me hysterically, screaming that I should never touch her personal property. She then accused me of trying to spy on her.

Anyway, I have never broached the subject with my wife. I think deep down, I just didn't want to know the truth, but last night she went out again and I decided to really check on her.

I decided I was going to park my car next to the garage and then hide behind it so I could get a good view of the street around the corner when she came home. It was at that moment, crouching behind my motor that I
noticed a small amount of oil leaking through the gasket underneath the cylinder head.

So is this something I can easily repair myself or do you think I should take it to the dealer?
biggrin.gif

Depends how much you know about motors-if the coolant's emulsified, your head's definitely blown-oh, and by the way don't be so mistrusting of your good lady-she's probably got a perfectly good explanation-well they ALWAYS have, don't they? dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-08 19:52:35
QUOTE(otter @ Feb 8 2007, 07:19 PM) [snapback]230694[/snapback]
I can't believe I found this, anyway there is a condition, that means your second toe is longer than your big toe. You lot will never believe what it's called.
I'm tempted to type it, but why spoil the surprise? If you want to know what it's called go Here
Don't spoil it for a while. biggrin.gif

Phil.

The future's bright.....

Well spotted!

Phil, you may also be interested to know that among the symptoms of Alexander disease, two of the more common are progressive enlargement of the head, and dementia.
mortonjag 2007-02-08 19:54:34
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 8 2007, 05:48 PM) [snapback]230688[/snapback]
I was going tocheck but I lost my toes to frostbite today.

That'll teach you to queue jump in Iceland.
mortonjag 2007-02-08 20:35:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 8 2007, 08:32 PM) [snapback]230718[/snapback]
I suggest the full Ton squad be checked ASAP.

They may have caught it from Alex Williams ???

huh.gif huh.gif

What, Alexander disease with the big heid and dementia?

That's more common in the Borders I'm led to believe.
mortonjag 2007-02-08 20:39:13
QUOTE(MFC_jamie @ Feb 8 2007, 08:36 PM) [snapback]230722[/snapback]
Thats kind of creepy btw.

Only if you're REALLY badly affected.
mortonjag 2007-02-08 20:41:54 Serious answers only please, and no girns from the PC brigade either.
mortonjag 2007-02-08 21:42:37
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 8 2007, 09:28 PM) [snapback]230748[/snapback]
I'm not getting involved in this argument but I have to just ask you Jag, have you had much dealings with Strathclyde's finest lately?

Almost to a man, they're useless. This comes from a guy with two mates who're currently treading the thin blue line.

You're not getting involved in the argument, but you're willing to make a bald statement like that!

Of course the cops find it difficult to enforce the law, particularly when it comes to the kind of event we've been discussing.

Gone are the days of parental responsibility, respect for authority, and the ability of the local 'Bobby' to give some errant youngster a good kick up the arse.

I know most of the younger posters endorse our laissez faire society, but don't start blaming the Polis for a problem that's not of their making.
mortonjag 2007-02-08 21:50:27
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 8 2007, 09:01 PM) [snapback]230729[/snapback]
Testicles are just like women's breasts, one is always SLIGHTLY bigger than the other and hangs down that fraction more.

Maybe one of our medical experts will confirm this for the doubters.

That is absolute rubbish-as an experienced page 3 man, I can assure you that one is always SLIGHTLY smaller than the other, and sits up that fraction more.

As for balls, well at least you've had enough to post an answer-where are all those big macho men now? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-08 21:54:20
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 8 2007, 09:52 PM) [snapback]230763[/snapback]
Answer my question. Have you had many dealings with Strathclyde Police lately?

Depends how recently and in what capacity officer.

Put differently-'Who wants to know'? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-08 22:15:49
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 8 2007, 10:00 PM) [snapback]230770[/snapback]
answer the question, you shifty bastard.

mybe aye, maybe no.
mortonjag 2007-02-08 22:18:12
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 8 2007, 10:12 PM) [snapback]230776[/snapback]
Minions normally refer to me as Emperor Redbeard. blink.gif

Correct though, those things do happen and on most occasions the authorities do not take it seriously.
I am not law enforcement, they are the ones who either do not or cannot fulfil their job description, sometimes due to laziness, other times due to workload or by reason of staffing levels.
Take your point up with the relevant authorities or politicians and we will see if your campaign has any positive results.

All in all that's life. Street life.

That's a total cop out your Imperial Majesty-you're the boss-get it sorted!
mortonjag 2007-02-09 07:14:18
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 9 2007, 12:09 AM) [snapback]230841[/snapback]
If we are challenging, it will become a priority but only in the sense that there are firm plans to get whatever needs doing in the close season between promotion and being in the SPL. I would see that as a lid on the WDE and bucket seats plus extra toilets at that end plus seating the rest of the cowshed. I would also hope that ground covers may be acceptable by then. I have a client who supplies a lot of clubs including Celtic and they have not used their under soil heating for a couple of season since acquiring these covers. He's just sold them to Aston Villa because Martin O'Neil was so impressed.

The work at the WDE could happen before the end of the season and the rest during the close season. Its not a huge amount of work and the close season should be more than enough time to get it done and promotion to the SPL will more than pay for it.

I am not sure what date the ground has to be ready on but if push came to shove maybe we would swallow our pride and share with St Mirren until it was.

The 'ground share' precedent, originally a 'cop out' for clubs who couldn't or wouldn't meet silly rules is now an established precedent, and we've nothing to worry about.

As an aside, I was talking to a longstanding Hibs fan yesterday, and asked him about the Gretna - Hibs cup tie. He commented that Gretna were ok in the first half but then faded. He went on to say (and I've never met this chap before) that Gretna are a complete joke.

How can they possibly expect to drag more than a couple of hundred to 'home' games at Motherwell, if that's the best they could manage for the cup, he asked.
mortonjag 2007-02-09 07:24:58
QUOTE(tigerjock @ Feb 9 2007, 12:32 AM) [snapback]230850[/snapback]
I see the old " son" word has appeared, don't you dare even relate to me in that sense you spineless coont only my father had the right to call me that, a man that would have put someone like you to shame

Grow up!!!! what like you have... obviously in your advancing years you haven't learnt a great deal.

As for street wise, if you read my post correctly you would have absorbed my point about parking, pubs etc etc I think you'll find that comes from a result of being ever so slightly streewise especially when it comes to away days at football.

It seems to be acceptable to a few on here that it's ok let your mate take a dig, this is no code of honour bollox
FFS do none of you have any real mates that you would take a dig for if it meant helping them, wtf happens on a night out then is it just a case of leaving the poor sod on the floor while you order another shandy

The truth is that you subscribe to the same mentality as those you describe as 'hoolie' types-we WON'T get a 'doing' because we'll give THEM the doing.
mortonjag have you not learnt that assumpptions are for the thick and weak willed

And i wasn't calling puggsy a sh1thouse, apologies if it came accross like that, although his compadres and a few on here obviously are

To take your last point first zebra dick, it's nice that you can apologise, and only a pity that your whole post is somewhat disjointed. Perhaps I too have misjudged you.

Perhaps you did not mean to suggest that wellying in to a Hoolie brawl 'to help' your streetwise mate who just 'happened' to be there is in fact condoning that type of scummery.

Assumptions, son, are made by us all every day of our lifes, not just by the'thick and weak willed', but some of us are more experienced than others in applying logic before making them.

It's refreshing to know that your purported parent would have 'put someone like me to shame', but then I never claimed to be a steetfighter.
mortonjag 2007-02-09 07:33:13
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 9 2007, 01:27 AM) [snapback]230858[/snapback]
Scott McLaughlin :
Starts : 24
Wins 15
Draws 4
Lost 5

15 wins when McLaughlin has started is a pretty decent record definitely not something that should lead someone to say put us down for a win if Scott isn't playing.

We have won every match Keenan has started in midfield (5/5) but I'd say that is coincidence rather than Keenan having a huge effect on the team. To even mention Walker is ridicoulous because I don't think he has even played one match in central midfield all season.

I agree that McLaughlin does sometimes take on attacking responsibility when it isn't his job but I totally disagree that it deprives Stevenson or Millar the chance to create. I think it is because he feels compelled to try and do it when Millar and Stevenson have been failing to do so (which is often in my opinion). Saturdays match summed this up for me. Millar was a shrinking violet on Saturday - he hid, didn't want the ball and whenever he got it he invariably gave it away. At least McLaughlin never hides and gives it his all. I'd have him in my team every week and can't believe some of the criticism he gets.
Surely you are joking mate ? I couldn't think of anything worse.

I like the idea of 3 up front but as Largston says I'm not sure of the impact this will have on the midfield - thats why I think McInally might go with Weatherson in midfield to provide a bit of height and strength as well as the ability to play. I'd go with :

-------------------------------------- Mathers

Walker-----------------Greacen----------------Harding-------------MacGregor
-----------------Stevenson--------Weatherson--------McAlister
-----------------McGowan---------Templeman-----------Linn

Just a thought, Finlayson and McAlister would be popular regulars in any other div2 team.

Neither has been able to develop at Scapa as they've consistently been played out of position.
mortonjag 2007-02-09 08:07:55
QUOTE(Cockney_Reject @ Feb 9 2007, 12:42 AM) [snapback]230852[/snapback]
laugh.gif my left does hang lower but is about half the size of my right.

Nonsense man-your right hangs higher and is about twice the size of your left, oh and is one shrunken, and the other enlarged, is only one abnormal, or are they both unusual-just wondered! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-09 08:09:24
QUOTE(CraigoTON @ Feb 9 2007, 01:16 AM) [snapback]230857[/snapback]
yes.

the toe next to my big toe is longer than my big toe.

also there is a gap between my big toe and the one next to it that i can fit my wrist between............

this is slightly bigger than a normal gap.

...but my wrist is much, much smaller than the other one.
mortonjag 2007-02-09 08:45:43 Just a thought-if Dem Tims didn't have huge chips on their shoulders, Madcap Murray wouldn't get on their tits so much...

and if the 'loyal' brigade are genuinely loyal to the present set up, they should be incarcerated without limit of time.
mortonjag 2007-02-09 08:53:12 Is this the same exercise as the wee Gre£na fannies were doing this time last year?

I think it's just a little arrogant and disrespectful, and coming from me that's rich! cool.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-09 09:04:36 Students don't change light bulbs, they just drink, smoke, and shag in the dark 'til the next time Mum and Dad visit.
mortonjag 2007-02-09 09:09:07
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 8 2007, 10:56 PM) [snapback]230809[/snapback]
Maybe he could get electrocuted on stage, that would liven things a bit. ' Now I want you all to show your support for this. Are you up for it?' buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz laugh.gif

Shocking. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-09 09:11:58
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Feb 9 2007, 08:33 AM) [snapback]230869[/snapback]
mines is about two feet lower smile.gif

"It tough for men, we have to check for testicular cancer...we have to find a lump..in a ...bag of lumps" Dylan Moran

Lynda Roman after the op I'm led to believe.
mortonjag 2007-02-09 09:16:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 9 2007, 08:53 AM) [snapback]230875[/snapback]
Gidday Boozehound,

That's really sad, mate.

You got Boozehound Blight.

sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

BH suffers from STD

Symmetrical toe disorder, an unusual condition first discovered in Papua New Guinea, and thought to be related to ritual cannibalistic toe nibbling.
mortonjag 2007-02-09 09:23:20
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 9 2007, 09:17 AM) [snapback]230889[/snapback]
I'll ask a girl from the typing pool to check for me.

What-you want f*ck battered out your wee bawbag at a rate of 120 per minute-c'mon Alibi-there again, has she got nice tits?
mortonjag 2007-02-09 09:24:31
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 9 2007, 09:21 AM) [snapback]230891[/snapback]
Glad to see no mention of the H word in that list.......

You mean C.....h
mortonjag 2007-02-09 09:26:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 9 2007, 09:20 AM) [snapback]230890[/snapback]
Why are some cannibals toe nibblers and others, toe suckers ??

huh.gif huh.gif

How do you eat your Cadbury's creme egg?
mortonjag 2007-02-09 09:34:09 Edd, I guess I might as well reply for the majority-'Wherz embra'?
mortonjag 2007-02-09 09:37:59
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 9 2007, 09:34 AM) [snapback]230900[/snapback]
What if your right hangs lower than the left huh.gif

Does that mean they won’t work tongue.gif

Modern ladies ain't that naive Willow! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-09 11:02:50
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 9 2007, 10:35 AM) [snapback]230915[/snapback]
That's enough of the backhanded compliments!
Just out of interest do you know Jim Mather? An old Gourockian.

Jim's dad was the local Kilmacolm bobby, and I went to school with him there. We both ended up at Paisley Grammar, before he had the good sense to move to pastures new.
mortonjag 2007-02-09 11:19:14
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 7 2007, 02:58 AM) [snapback]230148[/snapback]
It depends on the extent of our ambitions next season.

Should we wish to push for an SPL slot immediately then I'd agree that a complete overhaul will be required.

Surely a complete overhaul's a bit radical when so many of the youngsters are already competing fairly well when facing 'higher' opposition.

I reckon that with a couple of judicious signings in the closed season, we'd have a squad capable of promotion, and who'd gel throughout another year. Then maybe a couple more, and we could hold our own with the Falkirks and Motherwells of the SPL.
mortonjag 2007-02-09 11:22:57
QUOTE(Tonto @ Feb 9 2007, 10:03 AM) [snapback]230907[/snapback]
STOP IT!!!!! mad.gif

We've won hee haw yet. Stirling have closed a dirty big gap once already this season. A couple of bad results for Morton , and it's entirely possible they could do it again.

Tomorrow's game is now a bigger match than the Murderwell one.

One game a time must now be the attitude.

Yer smoke signals cannae be read mate-too much cloud in Cuckoo land I guess! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-09 11:29:33
QUOTE(Loveless @ Feb 9 2007, 11:24 AM) [snapback]230932[/snapback]
I'm sure Paisley award a degree for being able to change a lightbulb.

Nope-well not an ordinary-it's a post grad masters M. Sc.

Something to do with sockets and connections.
mortonjag 2007-02-09 11:36:49
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Feb 9 2007, 10:44 AM) [snapback]230919[/snapback]
Sorry but I don't have time for people like her. Marrying a 90 year old billionaire for his money then making sure his son didn't get any of it when he passed away. I think the word selfish comes to mind. dry.gif

Who says she married him for his money-maybe HE married her for HER assets-maybe he had a libido second to none except Boozehound-who knows. Anyhow I guess it's always sad when somebody dies.

A wee boy of 8 got knocked down and killed near here last week, BTW.

Whatever turns you on mate! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-09 11:39:29
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Feb 9 2007, 11:33 AM) [snapback]230938[/snapback]
That reminds me of the time I was at James Watt and the lecturer was reminding her class of tomorrow's exam. "Now class, I won't tolerate any excuses for you not being here tomorrow. I might consider a nuclear attack or a serious personal injury, illness, or a death in your immediate family, but that's it, no other excuses whatsoever!" A smart-ars ned in the back of the room raised his hand and asked, "What would you say if tomorrow I said I was suffering from complete and utter sexual exhaustion?" The entire class is reduced to laughter and snickering. When silence is restored, the teacher smiles knowingly at the student, shakes her head and sweetly says, "Well, I guess you'd have to write the exam with your other hand."

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mortonjag 2007-02-09 12:29:08
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Feb 9 2007, 11:56 AM) [snapback]230945[/snapback]
Its not arrogance, it's called Confidence!

See all this, don't say this, don't that, we haven't won anything yet. It does my nut in!! We're gonna win this league so come off the moral high ground and enjoy the fact you're team is top of the league and en-course to the Title.

P.S I know technically we could be caught, but trust me it aint gonna happen wink.gif

Ach away an bile yer heid!

When did realism become 'moral high ground'?

We blew it two seasons running, and we blew a comfortable lead already this season.

I strongly believe we'll get promotion, but that doesn't mean I have to endorse wee boys' games.
mortonjag 2007-02-09 12:30:49
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Feb 9 2007, 11:48 AM) [snapback]230944[/snapback]
Dr Cretin in weird testicle fetish.

BALLS mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-09 12:36:53
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 9 2007, 10:20 AM) [snapback]230912[/snapback]
It will be interesting to see the crowd for Gretna v Inverness Caley when they are ground sharing at Motherwell!!

I have said regularly on this forum and on Pie and Bovril that the Gretna fairy tale is a fact a horror story for Scottish football. They have no history or fan base or even the opportunity of creating one. At least Livingstone sited themselves in a relatively highly populated new town area. At the end of the day fans are who fund Scottish football, especially outside the SPL and Gretna may have their own millionaire to support them but who is funding the other clubs for the lack of any appreciable away support? The whole thing is a joke and makes Scottish football a laughing stock when a jumped up junior club can be artificially propelled to our top league.

Where were you last season then, when just about every second poster was calling me 'jealous', and accusing me of having a personal vendetta-which I do not. I was simply stating the facts reiterated by yourself.

Mileson ultimately looks like an embarrassment to Scottish football more than anything else.

At least arch rogue of the moment, Romanov, bought a football club, and not a local play park managed by an eejit.
mortonjag 2007-02-09 12:39:33
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 9 2007, 12:10 PM) [snapback]230948[/snapback]
Underhill looks like Collina next to Colin Hardie.

C*NT Hardie, with Ian Fyfe as close behind as he can get, without getting ordered off.
mortonjag 2007-02-09 13:03:13
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 9 2007, 12:56 PM) [snapback]230984[/snapback]
And here I thought you had come round to my way of thinking!! In fact, its hardly 'wee boys games' predicting when we might officially be promoted any more than it's wee boys games saying 'one game at a time' or 'we are not up yet' etc, etc. Stirling might win all their remaining games. We might lose enough games for them to catch us. The Pope might join the Orange Order. Celtic might win the European cup. Cowdenbeath might be the next European city of culture.

There is no harm in this sort of conjecture and anyway, I'm an accountant - I like numbers!!

You've being doing so well recently so I'll assume that this is just a wee lapse! tongue.gif

It's wee boys' games.

They are harmless but other fans will see them as arrogant.

The Pope will probably join the Orange Order seeing he's a closet Hun already, but all your other predictions are typically accountantesque.

Anyway I'm an old fart, and I enjoy talking s***e.

mortonjag 2007-02-09 13:10:08
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 9 2007, 01:02 PM) [snapback]230990[/snapback]
I thought for a while that the plan was to merge with Carlisle and bring them into the Scottish league. Now that would have been something which might have arguably been good for our game. I just thought that anyone smart enough to earn what Mileson has must have a long term plan but it looks as though I was wrong and that Gretna is just his little hobby which he has shown signs of finding a bit too expensive recently.

Incidentally, my information is that there is a trail of debt all across the borders which might have related to Mileson's absence through illness and I also think it is significant the way they are shedding expensive players like Tosh and Deuchar.

Fair enough. I had already established way back that the Carlisle fans had no time for him, and that he had twice ignored golden opportunities to buy the club.

Even then, my initial posts were in terms of yours-he MUST have a secret plan-who could be so successful elsewhere, and so stupid with Gre£na, but as the season unfolded, and he dropped his guard with all the press s***e about 'living the dream', the true villain emerged.

A self indulgent, misguided idiot, who has conned the poor bumpkins to polish his own ego.

Mileson won't be here for a long time in football terms, and when he goes, so does Gretna FC.
mortonjag 2007-02-09 13:12:23
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 9 2007, 01:08 PM) [snapback]230999[/snapback]
i don't drink tea anymore, i'm on the herbal infusions. camomile, peppermint etc.

enemas.
mortonjag 2007-02-09 13:29:28
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Feb 9 2007, 01:15 PM) [snapback]231007[/snapback]
Too much Edinburgh festival to blame for that!! The fringe is just as Arkleston said. Glasgow's comedy festival is now established as one of the best around. I've never been to the Festival and have no intention of doing so. I'll leave all the snooty pretentious back slapping PC loony lefties to self congratulate on their "far out" creativity.

Now, now, each to his own!

As far as I'm concerned if something amuses me, I don't care if it's at 'The Fringe', on this forum, or some wag takin' the piss at the Barras.

It's the same with all art forms-my brother goes on about his JoLoMo paintings, and they're all bloody squinty and do SFA for me for example, and that pick arsehole guy couldn't paint for bawbees.

What I would say BMFC is-don't knock it 'til you've tried it.

I once met someone from Embra who was quite nice-almost human I'd venture to say.
mortonjag 2007-02-09 13:35:33
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 9 2007, 01:21 PM) [snapback]231013[/snapback]
Just so long as you don't call him a poof. Apparently calling him a c*nt or a w*nker is perfectly ok, but you're not allowed to call him a poof any more.

Amazing what a course of remedial therapy can do-frankly I thought he was stuck with it.
mortonjag 2007-02-09 13:37:06
QUOTE(Cockney_Reject @ Feb 9 2007, 01:35 PM) [snapback]231019[/snapback]
The fact that most people are suggesting different people just shows how poor the standard of refereeing is in the SFL. For me Hardie or Frickleton.

People have VERY short memories, but no doubt Ian Fyfe will be back to haunt us soon enough.
mortonjag 2007-02-09 13:41:31
QUOTE(Cockney_Reject @ Feb 9 2007, 01:33 PM) [snapback]231018[/snapback]
Interesting to see everyones views on Mileson now when only months ago he was branded as "one of Scottish fotballs genuine good guys". In my opinion his Gretna fantasy was never going to be sustainable as the clubs revenue made up only a fraction of its outgoings. Look at Tom Farmer at Hibs whos wealth is several times that of most of the English Premierships chairmen, however he has ensured that the club has lived within its means thus not allowing unsustainable levels of expenditure. That is how to run a football club unless you fancy doing a Leeds United.

Those who branded him 'one of Scottish football's genuine good guys' were essentially a load of lazy hacks whom he probably wined and dined in the build up to promotion and the cup final.

I doubt if any serious minded person was able to see any long term viability in Gretna minus Pony Tail.
mortonjag 2007-02-09 13:53:24
QUOTE(Cockney_Reject @ Feb 9 2007, 01:40 PM) [snapback]231024[/snapback]
What is he is a poof tongue.gif

I hate all this PC bollocks.

He chases wee boys about a park every Saturday, and usually takes their details in his private book.

What he does during the rest of the week is unproven, but I have it on good authority that someone, looking uncannilly like him has been seen in a taxi with someone who looks uncannilly like Ian Fyfe.
mortonjag 2007-02-09 13:55:11
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 9 2007, 01:46 PM) [snapback]231029[/snapback]
Doesn't matter where they're from - if they want to spend their money in our area, they're welcome - should boost the local economy.

Well you'd have thought so... unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-09 14:52:37
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 9 2007, 02:40 PM) [snapback]231037[/snapback]
No it's not 'correct', you just agree with mortonjags opinion - that doesn't make it correct.

I think two or three of our players might be good enough to play in the SPL but I certainly don't think quite a few of our squad could.

I don't think they have really proved anything. Clyde beat us earlier in the season showing a bit of know how and Motherwell did similar. We beat both Kilmarnock and St. Johnstone while playing excellent football. I think that we would face matches more like the Motherwell and Clyde every week if we were playing these teams in the league every week rather than in one off cup ties.

Which is precisely why we need a couple of judicious signings who can get the best out of the boys consistently.

You agree we beat Killie and the real Saints by playing good football, and don't forget I'm projecting to the ability of our young squad in 19 months' time.

There are one or two first team regulars who I believe have peaked already-no names-but I think only one or two won't get much better.
mortonjag 2007-02-09 14:58:28
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 9 2007, 02:30 PM) [snapback]231035[/snapback]
I agree that McAlister might do better on the right-handf side but I think he has been allowed to develop at Cappielow. He came into the team as a striker for the first few games and then was played at left mid and has played there as a virtual ever present ever since. He has been playing left midfield for two or three seasons maybe his lack of development is his own fault rather than simply switching sides. His finishing, crossing and use of his left foot are three things that should have improved much more than they have in the last few seasons.

How has Finlayson been consistently played out of position ? I'd say that Finlayson's lack of development is purely down to lack of ability.

Finlayson will never be a class act, but he came to us from Stranraer as a part timer and attacking midfielder, who was the backbone of their promotion success.

He has NEVER been given a chance to play that role because of our surfeit of good midfielders, and frankly McInally just makes them both look stupid when he sticks him wide right.

Similarly, it's all very well for you to theorise about Jimbo-he too has played 'where he's been told to', and I guarantee that a move elsewhere will see proper use of his undoubted ability.
mortonjag 2007-02-09 15:01:07
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Feb 9 2007, 02:57 PM) [snapback]231049[/snapback]
I seem to remember Tumilty having a shocker away at Raith at the end of last season.

Ian Fyfe reffed 3 of our game last season, away to Dumabrton and Ayr where he sent off 3 of our players but he also done Stirling at home (Greacen scissor kick goal) and if I remember correctly he was surprisingly good in that game.

He was on a promise from one of the ballboys.
mortonjag 2007-02-09 15:04:03
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Feb 9 2007, 02:41 PM) [snapback]231039[/snapback]
The guy was wheelchair bound when they married.

Did he SLEEP in it? It's his tadger I was talking about, not his legs.
mortonjag 2007-02-09 19:44:24
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 9 2007, 03:31 PM) [snapback]231068[/snapback]
Whether people remember him or not is not the issue. He's no longer a referee, as he's too old.

Good
mortonjag 2007-02-09 19:48:05
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 9 2007, 04:04 PM) [snapback]231072[/snapback]
'Wee boys' games' - what are you taking about ? People have a bit of a laugh guessing when we will win a league we are 7 points clear in with a game in hand and old misery mortojag says they are playing wee boys' games. Get a life.

I seem to remember times when we were further ahead and still blew it, but then maybe old misery mortonjag's finally lost his marbles!

Enjoy the games!
mortonjag 2007-02-09 20:06:25
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 9 2007, 03:28 PM) [snapback]231067[/snapback]
As far as I can see Kevin Finlayson has absolutely no attributes that would make me want to play him as an attacking midfielder. He is uncomfortable on the ball, can't cross, can't skin a man and can't shoot. His only option is to try and run at his opponent and knock it past him. To be frank I think McInally gives him more of a chance than he deserves.

Every player is played 'where he's been told to'. What a ridiculous statement to say that you guarantee that a move elsewhere will see proper use of his undoubted ability. I used to go and watch the reserves when McAlister was really making an impact and even then he was playing wide left.

Strangely enough I think Jim might do better if he played on the right but to suggest that it would set a caged bird free to express himself if he was switched is in my opinion nonsense.

Funnily enough I only watched Jimbo twice for the reserves, and on each occasion he was played in the (then) John Maisano role, and I thought he was very impressive.

My statement can only ever be considered ridiculous if disproved, and time will tell. The 'caged bird' expression is yours-not mine-yet in trying to ridicule me, I believe you've got the scenario just right.

As for Finlayson, your comments and opinion are well at odds with those of the Stranraer management, Rae,and McInally, at the time of his signing for us.

He is not, as I have said, a class act, but proved to be extremely effective in div.2 when used properly.

We have a plethora of midfielders, several of whom are used to cover up our dearth elsewhere.

That is why McAlister AND Finlayson have failed to fulfil their promise.
mortonjag 2007-02-09 20:11:30 rolleyes.gif
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 9 2007, 07:59 PM) [snapback]231139[/snapback]
Condescension. Now there's a big boys' game.

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sarcasm-the lowest form of wit little chap!
mortonjag 2007-02-09 20:18:35
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 9 2007, 04:10 PM) [snapback]231073[/snapback]
Must have been quite a little nationalistic class you had back then! My gran suggested that my old-man used to help him with his maths. However, I can't see it. If true, a frightening thought especially when considering Mr Mathers rank in the SNP. I had the pleasure to present a business proposal to him in the mid 90's when he was a business angel. A true gentleman and very pasionate about Scotland's technology sector.

Pasiely Grammar, you must have been around at about the same time as Andrew Neil. The guy does tell a few good stories about Paisley and how tight the people are- the classifieds in the Pailsey Express when a headstone was for sale. Suitable for the surname Nesbitt.

Andy was a couple of years below me, and I met up with him again at Glasgow Uni. He was a really easy going guy in those days.
mortonjag 2007-02-09 20:21:42
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 9 2007, 07:31 PM) [snapback]231123[/snapback]
Do you mean Largs is meant to be deprived? blink.gif

Myself and the other half are hoping to buy a house in the town this year but the prices have went through the roof and we may have to consider moving elsewhere.

Not Largs-the Inverclyde conurbation.
mortonjag 2007-02-09 20:23:50
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 9 2007, 08:01 PM) [snapback]231143[/snapback]
She's top.

Does it have to be a female-I was just thinking of Mark Yardley.
mortonjag 2007-02-10 09:27:04
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 9 2007, 09:15 PM) [snapback]231178[/snapback]
Not accusation - FACT! Surely you can't dispute that?
Agree with your post.

As far as Kevin goes, it was purely a case of who's more suited to a battle in the middle of the park as it will be tomorrow - Millar or Finlayson? And after their respective performances at Fir Park I chose the latter.

Millar disappeared as has been the case too often when the going gets tough, imo.

He doesn't rate Finlayson-end of.....as for Linn being 'accommodated'-I would agree in the sense that recently we've been doing well enough without a striker, but as I said, there's no point in paying money for the lad and not using him.

McGowan, Stevenson, and Millar are not strikers, and just duplicate each other in many ways.
mortonjag 2007-02-10 09:33:09 Andy f*ckin' McLaren-alky f*ckin' junky ha ha f*ckin' ha.

You are a sad and vituperous bunch when it suits you.

If only Andy had arrived a couple of games earlier, and we'd got the momentum more established we could have been promoted two seasons ago.

He is imperfect, but has also achieved something in his life. Easy to kick a man when he's down.

Good luck Andy.
mortonjag 2007-02-10 09:36:48
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 9 2007, 11:07 PM) [snapback]231225[/snapback]
I wonder how long the ambulance crew tried heart start ? unsure.gif

Two hours and they even used a novel technique-one on each side!
mortonjag 2007-02-10 09:42:09 Harding's too good for div 2, and it makes him lose concentration at times. Against better opposition his class shows. He will be BETTER up a division, and Stu will still just be Stu.
mortonjag 2007-02-10 11:22:50
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 9 2007, 09:25 PM) [snapback]231183[/snapback]
It's all very well raising our game in one off cup ties but these are a poor indicator of how we'd fare against better opposition week in, week out.

Two new full backs and an experienced centre half would be required if we're serious about challenging next season.

An old head to play in the middle of the park and a natural left sided player would also be required.

Depending on McGowan's situation we may also need two new strikers so I stand by what I said, we'd need to make major changes if we're serious about SPL football.

McInally has been extremely cautious about changing anything.

Technically I agree with much of what you say, but you don't seem to be including fringe players like Black, Russell, Glibride, McLean et al.

As I indicated earlier, the SPL is at the very earliest a year and a half away.

I imagine that IF we sew this league up early, a couple of those names could have already established themselves by the season's end.

One thing's for certain, if we acquire YET another midfielder, it had better be for experience, as we're oversupplied already.

One final thought-Spoonsy was, is, and always will be a striker! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-10 11:35:08
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 10 2007, 09:52 AM) [snapback]231255[/snapback]
They're still over-priced! That guy may be the worst writer in history!

Wonder if he'll bring out another half-arsed volume, with Andre Boe and Michael Ross in it, suggesting they were world class players? laugh.gif

Don't be silly-half a loaf's better than no bread, and they're a good read if you're a Ton fan.

Not exactly Booker prize challengers, and for the older fans, the second's a bit of a disappointment in terms of player quality, but that's life at Scapa.
mortonjag 2007-02-10 11:43:15
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Feb 10 2007, 10:25 AM) [snapback]231261[/snapback]
blink.gif Are you going for daftest post of the week?

To you and the previous poster, I knew EXACTLY what I was writing, I knew EXACTLY the myopic reaction it would provoke, and I stand by EXACTLY what I wrote.

Harding gets far too much time on the ball in this division, and he frequently over elaborates and makes unforced errors. In matches against higher opposition, he has attracted the plaudits of the press who, unlike you, can clearly see he's a class above the present level.

As I've said elsewhere, time will tell.

Greacen is the very opposite IMO-I rate him very highly for his dedication and committment, but he's reached his level, and his uncompromising inability to link with another centre back is one reason for Harding often looking a lesser player.
mortonjag 2007-02-10 18:52:43
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Feb 9 2007, 01:00 PM) [snapback]230986[/snapback]
"wee boys games" - Shut up ya tadger!!

This is a forum, I don't share you're pessimistic approach, so I'm now a little boy who's playing games. Very good!

Yes we've blew it before, but there's no reason to poo you're cacks at the thought of doing it again!! ohmy.gif

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mortonjag 2007-02-11 13:21:33 I still have reservations about JM's lack of experience, but why should he get the blame for a game where EVERYTHING, including that feckless fanny with the whistle, seemed to be in Brechin's favour.

All I WILL say, is that if we had lowered ourselves to their level, and instead of trying to play football, just pumped the ball into their box at every opportunity, we'd almost certainly have won this -and a final question-what happened to that WONDERFUL Ton support everybody in Scottish football was talking about last week?

Less than 2000 of our lot bothered to turn up, they completely lost their voices-except the sad boo boys- and almost half seemed to scuttle off when Brechin got their second. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-11 13:38:35
QUOTE(Zutons @ Feb 10 2007, 07:09 PM) [snapback]231439[/snapback]
No doubt mortonjag and co are happy!

Another day we would have been 5 nil up at half time rolleyes.gif

I've already made my feeling known elsewhere-yer wee tunes played out son! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-11 13:50:14
QUOTE(Mags @ Feb 11 2007, 09:42 AM) [snapback]231519[/snapback]
You know exactly what I mean Mr Angry mellow.gif
Reality is,footballers get abuse week in week out,it's a part of the game that won't go away,plumbers and mechanics are a totally different entity.
If every player reacted to it the way you suggested then that would really do a lot for the game...!!

Mags.

Mags, I think you're slightly wide of the point on this one.

Abuse of players is, as you say, part of the game, and when it's shouted out in the heat of a match the guys normally just laugh it off.

It's a damned sight different if you've given your best for 90 minutes in atrocious conditions, been mugged by an inferior team who didn't even try to play football, and just as you're heading off for your bath, some arsehole confronts you PERSONALLY.

I'd say that if Ryan just made a wee gesture, his restraint was quite commendable.

mortonjag 2007-02-11 13:56:24
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Feb 11 2007, 01:44 PM) [snapback]231612[/snapback]
Honest question - does that mean they're not good enough then?

Not necessarily, but surely the 'boo boys' raison d'etre would be better fulfilled by watching-say- E Stirling, or bullfighting, seeing that we no longer allow public executions.
mortonjag 2007-02-11 14:11:15
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Feb 11 2007, 02:02 PM) [snapback]231618[/snapback]
I reckon yesterday was an important game for us - on the back of the cup defeat and with Stirling not playing is was important we picked up all three points to get back to winning ways and increase the gap. It was also important with an awkward home tie against Ayr next week which we now face on the back of two defeats. I hope given some of the abuse the players took yesterday, they stand up and do whatever it takes to get three points. Alternatively we could see a crisis of confidence start to creep in. I hope it is the former rather than the latter.

Like yourself, I worry about the psychological efffect on a squad of young lads.

One of the reasons I was so hard on JM earlier in the season was because I believed he couldn't motivate them as well as he should have, especially during games when the heads went down.

After the Killie game I stated that that seemed to be sorted, and that the boys had attained genuine belief in themselves.

Perhaps I was being over enthusiastic, but things are definitely more solid than they were last Autumn, and I firmly expect the lads to sort things out against Ayr.
mortonjag 2007-02-11 14:15:51
QUOTE(C B @ Feb 10 2007, 07:00 PM) [snapback]231433[/snapback]
This post is laughable !

Dean Keenan is at best an enthusiastic player with the drive to be a professional footballer, a guy who (like Stephen Aitken) will never make it to the next level.

He is in fact

Lacking in skill
Devoid of a football brain
Unable to pass
Not the greatest tackler
and
Slower than a week in jail

I would love Morton to play AGAINST Dean every week because he is a liability in the middle of the park! The Kilmarnock game proved that and if we go on to do bigger an better things next year in the first division, Dean Keenan will NOT be part of it.

IMO anybody that rates Keenan ahead of Millar or Stephenson or Walker or any other of our midfielders really knows very little about talent spotting, i'm sure these are the same guys that shout at Harding !

(Signed Scott McLaughlin)
mortonjag 2007-02-12 06:38:10
QUOTE(jpmil @ Feb 10 2007, 01:58 PM) [snapback]231334[/snapback]
As someone has already posted the Gretna Story never ever made any sense to any genuine football supporter but now the SPL are face with a visiting team bringing only ? support.
Maybe the SPL will now discover a "new" (but until now forgotten) rule with a requirement which will exclude Gretna gaining promotion!

I agree, but suspect your exclamation mark is redundant.

We NEED a serious look at the Romanovs, Milesons, and Scotts of this world ASAP.
mortonjag 2007-02-12 06:40:59
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 11 2007, 04:36 PM) [snapback]231643[/snapback]
Well to be fair the guy wasn't exactly giving the book away for free. I bought both books for £16.99 and neither where anywhere near worth that money. I regularly read books, especially football books, and Morton Greats was one of the worst I have ever read in terms of the standard of writing. The second book was an improvement on the first though.

In saying all of that I'd still recommend any Morton fan to buy them for £3.99.

That's a fair comment, but it had to be a commercial gamble in terms of cost recoupment from a relatively small target readership IMO.

I assume that if the profits from the fitst book has been large the cost of the second would have been a good bit lower.
mortonjag 2007-02-12 06:48:03
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 11 2007, 03:05 PM) [snapback]231628[/snapback]
Your statement is ridicoulous beacuse you say you guarantee a move elsewhere will help him fulfill his undoubted ability. What basis do you have to guarantee anything. Do you watch McAlister training every day ?

You say McAlister is played out of position - how is it you know this ? He played his first couple of games at centre forward and wasn't very good, ever since he has played at left midfield. Morton's last two managers have played him there. How is it you know where he is best suited to play more than they do ?

A guarantee is based on a strong probability-NO guarantee of any kind is entirely watertight, as the future is always an unknown quantity.

I do not watch Jimbo training every day-in fact I suspect he may even have the odd day off.

I have not claimed to KNOW anything, but my opinion about McAlister is widely shared, not just by myself, but by several in footballing circles, and I HAVE discussed him with a respected manager.
mortonjag 2007-02-12 06:52:31
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 11 2007, 04:51 PM) [snapback]231646[/snapback]
Just as I suspected. Brechin knew we were thin in midfield so played two men in there who easily out muscled Jim and Chris.

Leaving them with two up front and two wide men. We had no answer to this and were at sixes and sevens every time they attacked.

We should NEVER have changed from a 4-4-2. Last time we experimented was at Forthbank where it was no coincidence we also lost.

Poor show, Jim. Linn will have to wait his turn like everyone else, even if you feel obliged or influenced to play him.

I won't argue with your detailed analysis.

Suffice to say that if punting the wind assisted ball into the box, and scoring from the only two real chances they got, constitutes commanding the midfield, you can use any criteria you like and come out with an apparently logical statement.
mortonjag 2007-02-12 07:19:16 This morning I'm definitely 'havin' a laff'.

On Saturday we weren't great, but we most certainly were FAR better than Brechin who didn't even try to play football, and they're third top of our division.

Full credit to Michael O'Neil for a brilliant wind assisted smash and grab.

None to the 'nose in a poke' posters who are blaming McInally, the players, and anything else they can think of.
mortonjag 2007-02-12 07:48:02 Poor Dougie's done it again!

'I apologise unconditionally and unreservedly to James (Traynor) for damning his newspaper in the manner described above', would have been unimpeachable.

'When I bought the Record on the Monday morning to read about Morton's Saturday match I could find no trace of it or a report of any other SFL match. Having searched diligently throughout the newspaper on two occasions and finding no coverage, I felt led to make that point in my column. It seems that the newspaper I purchased had had the football centre section taken out of it hence the absence of SFL reports.', sounds slightly fanciful.

Somebody saw you coming Dougie-AYE RIGHT !!! wacko.gif

If he reads the Record he knows to look for the pull out-OK he may just have bought one for the first time in ages, AND the centre section may just have been missing-it is possible.

More likely he went for a s***e at Fort Matilda, and picked up a discarded copy in the lavvy.
mortonjag 2007-02-12 07:53:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 12 2007, 04:50 AM) [snapback]231735[/snapback]
Only two people know exactly what happened in an aircraft toilet cubicle on a flight from Darwin to Mumbai - the English film star Ralph Fiennes and a Qantas flight attendant, Lisa Robertson.

Neither was available to comment yesterday on an incident on January 24 in which the pair allegedly had an intimate mid-flight liaison, but Ms Robertson has been suspended without pay and may face the sack.

Ms Robertson, 38, said in a statement to Qantas that Fiennes followed her into the business class toilet cubicle where, she said, "Mr Fiennes became amorous towards me and, after a short period of time, I convinced him to leave the toilet, which he did."

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/02/11/1171128816491.html
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after a short period of time

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is he a wombat ??

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..convinced him to leave the toilet, as I pocketed the $500.
mortonjag 2007-02-12 08:00:51
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Feb 11 2007, 03:10 PM) [snapback]231630[/snapback]
I have to ask that, since I pay my money to go and watch Morton every week do I not have the right to voice my opinion at what happens on the pitch? If I am not then I want my money back. If you were to buy a microwave for example and were not happy with the quality of it you would have the right to complain and ask for your money back, so the people who pay to watch their football team should be able to show how they fell about a performance.

So you run into Comet and 'Boo' at the top of your voice!

Booing says more about the protagonist than the recipient IMO.

By all means complain, ask for your money back, and go somewhere that guarantees the product week in, week out.
mortonjag 2007-02-12 08:35:57 laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-12 08:42:55
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 12 2007, 08:02 AM) [snapback]231747[/snapback]
I agree with this. I don't abuse players or damage their confidence but at the end of a game I think it's fine to voice displeasure.

It's down to individual choice and judgement.

If over the years I had occasionally been able to speak to individual players post match, I wouldn't have spared them some questions.

It's the indiscriminate global nature of 'booing' which I abhor, and it sends out mixed messages.

Some have even suggested that on Saturday it was intended for the 'Ref', but I'm sure that even our best player on the day would have been upset, and probably NOT encouraged to 'do better'.
mortonjag 2007-02-12 08:51:49
QUOTE(Muz @ Feb 12 2007, 07:56 AM) [snapback]231744[/snapback]
Anyone on here able to repair TV's, or know anyone who can?

My old 32" widescreen has packed up, and I need to get it sorted so I can use it in the spare room, as I have purchased a 42" Plasma

Dont say davidson bros at the wellpark-total conmen. Last telly I took there, picture was rolling continually, and when I took it up, he quoted me £100 to fix it. I thought "bugger that", and borrowed a telly and threw the other one away.

On getting the loaned telly home, it was doing the same thing, turned out the sky box was playing up, not the telly, so Davidson Bros were f***ing at it

I know partly my fault, but there you go, still conmen.

So.....anyone able to help? It just switches on and switches back off again. Probably just a loose connection somewhere.

Anyone? mellow.gif

If it 'just switches on and back off again', there's a damned good chance it only needs a small replacement part, and a competent TV engineer could possibly diagnose and fix it for not too much.

You don't want to throw away a good 32" set without getting it checked. If you get a reliable guy in, and it's going to cost a lot of dosh, he won't rip you off for giving his opinion, and let's face it, modern 'tellies' can be bought fairly cheaply.

I don't have any contacts in Inverclyde, but somebody must know someone Muz.
mortonjag 2007-02-12 09:54:03
QUOTE(MFC_jamie @ Feb 12 2007, 09:41 AM) [snapback]231758[/snapback]
He isnt s***. He is one of very few players in the team who will shoot from a disctance instead of trying to walk the ball into the net.

Keenan's unfortunately one of those guys who doesn't seem to win over a lot of the fans, and it's got as much to do with their perception as his ability.

Quite honestly when I see the quality of stuff that's played against us week in, week out, I imagine Deano would be very welcome at most other division 2 clubs.

Millar, Stevenson, McAlister, Walker, and McLaughlin are all capable of playing more attractive football, but that doesn't guarantee they are always more effective than Deano.

Regarding Jamie Stevenson, I think he has been a huge disappointment this season-he is an excellent player, but has been largely ineffective for us.

One final point-corners-it takes two to tango remember. It doesn't matter how good your delivery is if nobody has the ability to get on the end of it.
mortonjag 2007-02-12 10:00:52
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 12 2007, 09:59 AM) [snapback]231765[/snapback]
I'm sure you will laugh.gif

Newton's a 'WANKER' ??? blink.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-12 10:08:24
QUOTE(Paton @ Feb 12 2007, 10:02 AM) [snapback]231767[/snapback]
Alright. I've not posted on here for a while but I'm getting very annoyed lately so I'm going to have my tuppence worth.
After watching that game on Saturday I have to agree the media have been overly kind to Morton this season. Yes, we're doing well at the top of the league but so we should be. We're full time playing against part time opponents.
Other than several cup games, the displays haven't been earth shattering on a regular basis. Yet if you read the Tele and the other national papers, you'd think we were Brazil.
I read the Sun this morning and could not believe the drivel their reporter is spouting.
Firstly he is regurgitating the crap Stewart Greacen regularly spouts in the Tele, about the fans getting on the younger players' backs and all that jazz. That's just boring old news.
What annoys me, however, is what the reporter himself writes. The parts that are unquoted.
He refers to our 'prawn sandwich brigade'! I mean, is this guy f***ing serious? We aren't Man United. We have a few piss heads in hospitality now and again, judging by another thread on here, not corporate posh boys.
Those guys may pay a few quid for the corporate trappings as a one off, but they are the same guys that would have been in the cow shed or the main stand the previous weeks.
The reporter also has a real go at the fans in general, claiming our rants at the players and McInally are unjustified.
How dare he.
I, myself, have been going to Cappielow for a good number of years and if I'm not happy with the show, as I wasn't with the second half on Saturday, I'll bloody well say so.
How often does that Sun reporter part with his cash to come to Cappielow? I'm considering writing a letter to the Sun to insist they don't send that numpty here ever again.
I'm now waiting with interest to see how the Tele dresses up yesterday's defeat.
True, Brechin's keeper was in top form, but that can't disguise the fact that three of the supposedly best strikers in this division couldn't score against a part time team, yet a part time team scored twice against us.
I'm not happy about that fact and, as a paying supporter, I'm well within my rights to say so.

Alex.

I agree ALMOST entirely with your post, but why do you effectively call Big Stu a liar?

He IS the team captain, and the average age most Saturdays is 22- they're just wee boys trying to fulfil our sometimes inflated expectations, and you CAN'T put old heads on young shoulders.
mortonjag 2007-02-12 10:35:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 12 2007, 03:25 AM) [snapback]231731[/snapback]
Ian St John

Just one of the best of a dozen+ Scots strikers who played in England in the 1960s.
Why did the production line dry up ???

Contraception.

The Saint played in the days of some great Motherwell teams if I recall.
mortonjag 2007-02-12 10:38:12
QUOTE(Paton @ Feb 12 2007, 10:34 AM) [snapback]231775[/snapback]
Yes, I agree with you. My first point was more about the press making us out to be something we're not. My second was aimed at the Sun reporter having a go at fans for voicing their opinion. He has no right. He's there to report on the game, not get high and mighty by launching attacks on paying supporters.
Our corporate hospitality does not consist of any 'prawn sandwich' munchers. I was trying to point out that these guys are normally pay-through-the-gate fans most weeks.
I cheer the team on all the time but I have a right to voice my opinion when I, as a paying supporter, feel things aren't right on the pitch.
I want Morton to succeed at the highest level and will them to do so every week, but I'm not emotionally immune to disappointment and I don't think the majority of our support are either.

Do you disbelieve Stuart Greacen when he says it gets to the younger players?
mortonjag 2007-02-12 10:44:34 Just as I suspected-the medical profession are correct-when it comes to talking about their balls, most men have none.

41 responses to a daft wee question about tootsies, and hardly a serious comment on things testicular!

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mortonjag 2007-02-12 11:12:46
QUOTE(Rodder @ Feb 12 2007, 10:40 AM) [snapback]231780[/snapback]
The average age of the squad may be 22 or close to that but look at the team that started the game on Saturday, apart from Paul McGowan every player in that team has at least a couple of years regular first team experience.

In my opinion, it is not down to the age or the talent of our players but down to the lack of dig shown in games where we need to mix it with the other team. I was frustrated with the amount of times our players where pulling out of tackles or afraid to go in for them in the first place. Sometimes you have to stick a head of foot in and take a wee knock.

What you say may be correct, but it does not alter fact. If criticism gets to them it does-simple as that.

I was saying something similar to you last Autumn when the heads went down, but I got slaughtered on here for claiming JM should be able to motivate them. I have also asked repeatedly for a seasoned 'old head' in the team, for exactly the same reason.

It's been clear to me for some time that there's not one natural leader in the squad. Mathers has given experience, but he's stuck way back in goals.

The question is clearly begged-in signing players should we be looking for more than just natural ability?

The Dean Keenan thread, IMO, puts this whole thing in some perspective.
mortonjag 2007-02-12 11:19:18
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 12 2007, 10:53 AM) [snapback]231789[/snapback]
Hear hear.

It would been easy for him just to never mention the incident again - but he did.

...except that the actual apology is written in 'unconditional, and unreserved' terms after the Jackanory bit, making the whole thing farcical.

Of course what he says may be factual..but it just sounds erm.. awfully 'Dougie' to me!
mortonjag 2007-02-12 11:27:07
QUOTE(tigerjock @ Feb 12 2007, 10:50 AM) [snapback]231788[/snapback]
mortonjag, you would make a good politician with your spin...and inability to actually take on board anything that doesn't agree with you in your oap comfort zone..enjoy what time you've got left old man.

I disagree totally with the concept of a 'good M.P.' stripey dick.


The reason I may appear to have difficulty with certain opinions is that I am totally egocentric-my therapist is working on this as I speak-wait-he wants a word----

'Stripey dick, this is mortonjag's therapist, please lay off the egocentric old c*nt-you're driving him to an early grave with your razor sharp wit, and impeccable logic, and I don't want my fees to dry up'.
mortonjag 2007-02-12 11:42:28
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 10 2007, 01:21 PM) [snapback]231329[/snapback]
No I'm no snob. My mammy was from Islay and I spend a lot of time there. It's all about preference. And I don't drink it straight, I prefer it diluted, Loch Thom tap water does fine. Loch Fyne Whiskies ? Too poncey for me Jimmy, I buy mine at Tescos. tongue.gif

As a half teuchter DE, can you explain to me why malt (or any) whisky for that matter is said to have a pleasant taste.

How many five year olds offered a sip would fail to turn up their noses?

You will undoubtedly tell me it is an 'acquired' taste, and I can relate to that-I adore blue stilton for example, but a litre of vodka's a damned sight cheaper and does the same job pretty efficiently.

Islay-I used to go to Port Charlotte every year for my holidays, and my brother and I played several times for the local football team against a number of distillery sides. I've been promising to go back for years-can still smell the peat burning !!
mortonjag 2007-02-12 11:54:31
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Feb 12 2007, 11:43 AM) [snapback]231805[/snapback]
I think it's fair enough to say that Graecen hasn't done well in the past couple of games - both he and harding misjudged the flight of the ball on a number of occasions on Staurday - and he shouldn't have reacted the way he did, but before we get carried away:

1. He gives 100% every week. Never seen him not try hard.
2. He knows his limits - doesn't often try to be too clever at the back.
3. He has played a number of blinders this season
4. Scott McDonald has tormented better players than we have
5. I doubt he said "prawn sandwich brigade" - he's from Carluke FFS!
6. Life as a ginger is hard enough.

Caviare canapes would have been more Carlukesque!
mortonjag 2007-02-12 12:21:37
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 12 2007, 12:06 PM) [snapback]231809[/snapback]
The game on Saturday was a game to forget. One of those days where a number of factors conspired to leave us all disappointed. I was in line with the referee (but with the advantage of an elevated position) and his view of the penalty was obstructed. A pity that the assistant referee did not flag. Nelson had a good game but to my mind there were only two clear-cut chances. My grumps or words of encouragement are (FAO Mr McInally)

1. Vast improvement in set-plays required. Continually the ball was floated into the area with only one corner resulting in a good opportunity. Stevenson should have been whipping the ball in at pace. Something to work on the training ground
2. Second half became too direct. Given the time of year the pitch is going to suffer but no matter how many knock-on’s were won there was no picking up on the second ball. Morton is a footballing team and shouldn’t have panicked.
3. The point that it is a young team and may be prone to buckle can only be addressed by the manager. I have been saying it for a long time but you need somebody in the middle of the park who can control or close a game out. I just hope that the decision by McInally not to sign an experienced midfielder does not come back to haunt us.

The league is there for the taking. Here’s hoping that Saturday was just an anomaly. I suppose the unpredictability of football makes it the sport it is.

With point 3, I could not agree more. It seems to have taken a hell of a long time for some people to see/accept a fact that has been evident since JM arrived.

I'm less inclined to start lecturing JM on tactics or team selection-I believe we've improved a lot in general, and Saturday WAS a 'one off'.

Let's face it, everything went right for Brechin, and nothing for us.
mortonjag 2007-02-12 12:28:55
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 12 2007, 12:18 PM) [snapback]231814[/snapback]
… looked as if he should have been queuing for a gyro on Saturday. Very disappointed in his attire!

Looks infinitely better in the blue and white hooped tutu, I'm told! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-12 12:33:50
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Feb 12 2007, 12:13 PM) [snapback]231811[/snapback]
Vodka does the same job as blue cheese?!! blink.gif

You're spot on-it addles my brain! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-12 12:35:59
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 12 2007, 12:27 PM) [snapback]231817[/snapback]
As a full teuchter I remember very clearly enjoying sips of whisky as a wean from my grandad (not in the context of a half, more like shoving my finger in his whisky glass and walking about with my finger stuck in my mouth), and loving the taste of it. And my Granny made toddies that would blow the head off an adult.
Mibbe its in the blood, or it's more likely I developed an acquired taste at a very young age.
Apart from rum there is no other spirit that I really like. I would rather have a large lump of stilton than a litre of vod anytime.

Certainly sounds like you've had it in your blood all your life-enjoy-oh and mind those c*nts with the breathalyser. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-12 12:39:41
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Feb 12 2007, 12:34 PM) [snapback]231826[/snapback]
yeah, I understand how part time football works. Thanks anwyay.
Don't you agree that it would make your job a lot easier knowing in advance how the other team are going to line up? The element of surprise could have saw us take 3 off them before half time.
Ifs and Buts.....

McInally could well have been bluffing-maybe Brechin even thought he was.

Before the Killie game old Grumpy was claiming half his squad would be out with a virus-mind you he's probably now wishing they had been.
mortonjag 2007-02-12 12:43:19
QUOTE(Paton @ Feb 12 2007, 12:33 PM) [snapback]231823[/snapback]
Not got a problem with Greacen defending himself, he, as you said, has been doing it all season. I do have a problem with the stupid hack who has, as you say again, taken to slagging us off to sell papers.

Page 3 and 15p does that-I think he made a valid point though.
mortonjag 2007-02-12 12:47:06
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 12 2007, 12:44 PM) [snapback]231831[/snapback]
Don't drive.
Probably the reason why.

Watch them just the same-they're nearly as devious as teuchters!
mortonjag 2007-02-12 13:17:26
QUOTE(Paton @ Feb 12 2007, 12:46 PM) [snapback]231832[/snapback]
So you're happy at getting a slagging so the Sun can sell papers? What goes on at Cappielow is no different to any other football club with a sizable support. People moan when their side loses, simple as that. Personal attacks on players are not on, but i didn't hear any personal attacks.

I'm almost tempted to go out and buy one now-just for the full exposee!

Maybe I'm not qualified to comment, having only seen this thread, but the gist seems to be that big Stu told a couple of loud mouths to lay off the youngsters.

Sounds pretty fair to me.
mortonjag 2007-02-12 17:32:22
QUOTE(craigeton @ Feb 12 2007, 05:11 PM) [snapback]231851[/snapback]
1. If we have two on-form forwards could you please tell me who they are ?

2. We did have but he was let go to St. Johnstone.

I would think that Jim Mcanally is very much regretting having let Del go.

Templeman is not going to be the one to score the goals to get us out of this league.
If he was he would have done it 2 seasons ago. Last season he was that good we couldn't give him away.

O.K. lets hear ' he was great against Killie'
well if he could do it every game there wouldn't be a problem. even every 3 or 4 games might help.

I agree entirely about Del-how can you be so sensible about one thing and talk such mince about Sanny-absolutely not a grain of logic in your comment-you have no idea what he's about to do, and it's ridiculous to attempt to predict it from his form two seasons ago.

Oh, and by the way, he was great against Killie, but everybody knows that wasn't really him-just a dead ringer JM hired for the occasion. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-13 06:19:00
QUOTE(TONTROOPER @ Feb 12 2007, 08:45 PM) [snapback]231908[/snapback]
YES ALL HEALTHY MALES HAVE ONE HANGING LOWER. ITS SO AS WHEN U RUN THAY DONT CLAK TOOWGETHER huh.gif biggrin.gif

Sez who, and where are all the healthy males running to/from-mind you the answer's correct-but WHICH?
mortonjag 2007-02-13 06:23:31
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 12 2007, 07:46 PM) [snapback]231878[/snapback]
Whisky is just like anything else. You either like it or you don't. I do, but no detriment to those that do not. You mention memories of Port Charlotte and the smell of peat fires. I suggest you take a whiff of Laphroaig. That's Islay in a glass to me. Have a few halfs and you're westering home. Have too many and you'll be seeing the lights of Lochindal. biggrin.gif

I don't actually mind the taste of Malt Whisky, but I'm sure it's acquired.

I know the locals in Port Charlotte used to go on a lot about Laphroig. My Mum's cousin Peter MacLellan owned the Lochindaal Hotel, and we used to go up there quite a lot as youngsters-'Aunt' Rosie was a fantastic baker.

Peter started his adult life on a rented croft at Leek Gruinart-his Mum was a schoolteacher at Brigend.
mortonjag 2007-02-13 06:36:27
QUOTE(1insert_player_here @ Feb 12 2007, 07:36 PM) [snapback]231874[/snapback]
We lost simply because of Craig Nelson, the referee, no killer instinct, and Templeman was bloody awful.

So it was Sanny's fault AGAIN-probably not trying 'cos he was against his old mates from Brechin-get a life you eejit.
mortonjag 2007-02-13 06:38:18
QUOTE(bigstu22 @ Feb 12 2007, 08:02 PM) [snapback]231888[/snapback]
You're right, our team can be complacent. However, they are young and inexperienced (not all of them but the vast majority). Again, this complacency isn't lack of effort. And again, encouragement would help improvement. Abuse would hinder.

Where did you study theology Stu?
mortonjag 2007-02-13 06:41:11
QUOTE(craigeton @ Feb 12 2007, 05:50 PM) [snapback]231870[/snapback]
I would think that the logic is perfect.
I said " Templeman is not going to be the one to score the goals to get us out of this league."
I wish he was, i really do.

'I would think that the logic is perfect'.

I understand what you are saying. All that's missing is your understanding of the word 'logic'.
mortonjag 2007-02-13 06:47:30
QUOTE(1insert_player_here @ Feb 12 2007, 07:59 PM) [snapback]231887[/snapback]
Chris Templeman - MOTM blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif

He was the worst player on the park. Truly awful.

FWIW Davie McGregor was my MOTM, he has been improving a lot lately, and was very good v. Motherwell.

David McGregor has improved only in that he's making less mistakes.

In the first half I couldn't believe the number of times he played the ball straight out to a Brechin man.

Against Motherwell, he did well, and had a couple of really well timed tackles, but quite frankly, he is played out of position, unlike Sanny.

People like you only ever acknowledge his presence when he scores, but he's constantly doing a power of work up front.
mortonjag 2007-02-13 06:51:09
QUOTE(theyorkshirepudding @ Feb 12 2007, 08:59 PM) [snapback]231917[/snapback]
You'd be wasting your time Alex.

Paul Hughes is Bill Leckie's BITCH!

...and the report was very complimentary, even stating that had it not been for Nelson, we'd have 'won by a cricket score'.

Who'd be a sports hack?
mortonjag 2007-02-13 06:52:55
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 12 2007, 09:03 PM) [snapback]231922[/snapback]
Hey, I do that. unsure.gif

ARSEHOLE rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-13 06:54:18
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 12 2007, 09:05 PM) [snapback]231924[/snapback]
I hear Eddie Morrison is going in for a treble by-pass this Wednesday, I would like to wish him well and a speedy recovery.

Trust Eddie-he never did do things by halves.

Speedy recovery.
mortonjag 2007-02-13 06:59:18 Bye kick = Goal kick
Shy = Throw in
Linesman = Assistant Referee
Slide tackle =unprofessional conduct
Offside = Nobody seems to know
Trainer = Physio


and so on

Any more you can think of?
mortonjag 2007-02-13 07:01:24
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Feb 13 2007, 06:30 AM) [snapback]231936[/snapback]
It wasn't a rumour , I got him mixed up with Elvis

Elvis is alive and kicking a football at the piggery.
mortonjag 2007-02-13 08:01:13
QUOTE(para @ Feb 13 2007, 07:44 AM) [snapback]231953[/snapback]
sportsmanship = cheating
running down the clock= time wasting

indeed-what was the old name for a 'professional' foul? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-13 09:10:43
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 13 2007, 08:44 AM) [snapback]231962[/snapback]
Don't talk nonsense. I had a pint with Elvis last week at the Morton club. He's a Ton fan you know.

Well next time you see him, I'm selling my Fender Tele Mexican at a good price-lovely electric turquoise-great tone and movement.

Just thought he and DDFR could maybe do a duet of 'I'm all shook up' WHEN we win the championship.
mortonjag 2007-02-13 09:24:14
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Feb 13 2007, 09:06 AM) [snapback]231967[/snapback]
Anna Nicole Smiths coffin

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Reduced by a LOT more than 56% I'd say !!!!!
mortonjag 2007-02-13 09:29:26 If Jerome Vareille's on, you could always blast out the first few chords of La Marseillaise every time we score---

or is THAT racist too? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-13 09:53:26
- and it's a wee pishy aerial that I have to dangle out of my window.



You'll get the jail if you're not careful.
mortonjag 2007-02-13 10:22:46
QUOTE(Edinton @ Feb 13 2007, 10:15 AM) [snapback]231985[/snapback]
It's called 'Close To You' i believe.... rolleyes.gif

Can I request some Journey please, either 'Don't Stop Believing' or 'Anyway You Want It'.

Sounds like Midge's anthem

'Why do birds suddenly appear
Every time I come near'?
mortonjag 2007-02-13 10:52:02 You youngsters will think I'm 'at it' but I HATED school, and used to skidge regularly.

Favourite ploy was going down to the local Bookies-yip-he let us off with it, and putting 3d each way on a horse.

I remember reading the first ever edition of The Sun, down the local park while my mates were getting beasted into Maths and stuff.

My parents (well my Mum) still believes I sat Higher Maths and failed!

I wrote my name on the paper, and f*cked off after half an hour.
mortonjag 2007-02-13 10:57:02
QUOTE(1insert_player_here @ Feb 13 2007, 10:51 AM) [snapback]231991[/snapback]
I never noticed a power of work against Brechin. When he didhave the ball he chose the wrong option more often than not. And falling on his arse when the ball came near him does not mean he had a good game. Templeman's performance against Brechin was totally unacceptable.

If you understand the expression-'You're flogging a dead horse'.

Of course Sanny's enigmatic-that's what makes him such a nightmare to defend against-because it didn't work out on Saturday may be unacceptable to you, but some of us have learned not to judge a player on just one game.
mortonjag 2007-02-13 20:57:14
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 13 2007, 12:02 PM) [snapback]232014[/snapback]
I thought you went to Uni? It must have been easier in the olden days. Tut tut.

Well it probably was-I just HATED Maths-did quite well otherwise!
mortonjag 2007-02-13 21:02:59
QUOTE(Deego @ Feb 13 2007, 08:39 PM) [snapback]232171[/snapback]
Wait till they drop before checking first. tongue.gif

Now you see Deego-that's exactly where you're wrong-even before they drop, the left's lower than the right, as it develops first in a normal human male.

So far as I know only humanoids like Skunks have right balls which hang below the left, but there again, most Skunks have no balls at all.
mortonjag 2007-02-13 21:10:27
QUOTE(e_f @ Feb 13 2007, 08:03 PM) [snapback]232155[/snapback]
Brechin started the game prepared for our three forwards playing together in the way they defended in and around the 18yd box. Normally they would have tried to stem the supply to our forwards by crowding the midfield but on Saturday they put bodies around our forwards - that's also why we didn't have the usual chances from midfield as there was never a clear target for a shot unles it was channeled towards their keeper.
The Leeds manager, Denis Wise, was angry because his team was leaked to the opposition - obviously it gives the opposition an advantage.

How long would it taken for O'Neill to readjust the side, or are you suggesting he actually PICKED the side on the strength of a newspaper report?

As Chrissiboi said, at times JM seems rather inexperienced-almost naive-but I'm getting slightly fed up with the microscopic dissection of Saturday's game by our 'in house' experts.

Brechin defended well, assisted by the Ref, and attacked twice assisted by the wind.

Nothing went our way.

END OF.
mortonjag 2007-02-13 21:28:05
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Feb 13 2007, 08:29 PM) [snapback]232168[/snapback]
Hope yer next s***e is a hedgehog

...smoking a huge cigar.
mortonjag 2007-02-13 21:31:42
QUOTE(danielle @ Feb 13 2007, 03:17 PM) [snapback]232077[/snapback]
Hi

Does anyone have any contacts details for the guy Tontastic who takes the pictures at Cappielow?

Thanks

What a come down lassie-Teddy Sheringham to big Stu-wi' foties thrown in! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-13 22:19:29
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Feb 13 2007, 10:12 PM) [snapback]232209[/snapback]
Where I went to school it was dogin' or skivin'

Anyway, as both my parents taught in the school i went to (and for most years taught a class i was in huh.gif ) i was generally rather reluctant to 'dog it'... think i did about three times in total, all towards the tail end of sixth year, by which point i couldn't give a fck.

Teachers' pet by default-what a sentence!
mortonjag 2007-02-13 22:26:25
QUOTE(Deego @ Feb 13 2007, 09:36 PM) [snapback]232194[/snapback]
ohmy.gif

I thank you for enlightening me Sir MortonJagMacbeth.

My pleasure, and if you have any further queries about the male anatomy, I can recommend a certain Professor Boozehound, who has spent a lifetime in the area.
mortonjag 2007-02-13 22:32:51
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 13 2007, 04:02 PM) [snapback]232089[/snapback]
I hate games against Ayr , as you know it will definitely be a chore to watch . I know the lads wil be itching to make amends for last weeks slip up but you have to weigh that up with the fortress defence .
1-0 ( last on) Greacan
I would like us to give them a roasting though .

Last time Ayr came here I was hoping for an exciting game after some of their good play last season, but they employed spoiling tactics from start to finish-a dreadful game that was.

No reason to believe this'll be anything different. I'd love to scud them, but as last week, I see Linn finally getting one for us. Probably not much more.
mortonjag 2007-02-13 22:38:41
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 13 2007, 09:53 PM) [snapback]232199[/snapback]
It's only in recent weeks I've thought the standard of his deliveries have dropped but I blamed that on the weather.
Looks like I'm in the minority here then but I think it's more to do with players not attacking the ball enough than poor delivery.

Precisely-at the moment you hit the ball, you've worked out what they're likely to do, or should be doing.. you can't legislate for the sequel.

I remember an away game at Alloa last season, when Andy McLaren took, I believe, 15 corners, and we got SFA.

Surely that CAN'T just be down to him!
mortonjag 2007-02-13 22:42:40
QUOTE(bigstu22 @ Feb 13 2007, 09:49 PM) [snapback]232196[/snapback]
My theology studies started in the late seventies and I was fortunate enough to be enlightened by God himself-he wore the blue and white hoops and the number eleven!!

....and to his name be the praise, the honour, and the glory!
mortonjag 2007-02-13 22:46:07
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 13 2007, 10:30 PM) [snapback]232220[/snapback]
You calling me a skunk tongue.gif

No way squeaky voice!
mortonjag 2007-02-14 06:08:56
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 13 2007, 07:49 PM) [snapback]232150[/snapback]
This man is so desperate to get into and stay in No. 10 that he has backed England's bid for the 2018 World Cup.
If England are successful Scotland can kiss goodbye to their bid for Euro 2016.

Brown said "we won the World Cup in 1966." blink.gif Did we ? Or is he confusing England with britain again.

Seems more like he's individually capitulated his Scottish identity, but all politicians are variably transparent pragmatists.

BTW I'd prefer Britain, and england-you're slipping!
mortonjag 2007-02-14 06:15:23
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 13 2007, 09:29 PM) [snapback]232191[/snapback]
No, the SNP are a centre, or possibly slightly left of centre, party. They do have a wider bandwidth than the other parties though.

Your allusion is presumably to the Tartan Tories label, but that moniker is just a Labour smear attempt. The Tories accuse the SNP of being socialist in a similar smear attempt.

I reckon the SNP have the same advantage as the lib dems elsewhere-all things to all people, and nobody knows what they'll really do if they get in.

By their deeds shall ye know them.
mortonjag 2007-02-14 06:29:43
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 13 2007, 10:42 PM) [snapback]232227[/snapback]
I have to agree with your sentiments on set pieces . The other thing being that we know this season that the onus of attack has been on us most of the season , so we should have a fair share of corners and free kicks around the box . Teams with alot less talent than ours seem to be more dangerous at set plays .
I watched MOTD and was impressed with not just Readings set plays but their desire to get men foward and commit to attack . We play nice football but alot of times its 2 one paced , giving teams times to reorganise .

I remember some time ago Martin Clark was stated to be 'in charge of' set pieces.

In Spoonsy, and Jamie, we undoubtedly have huge potential, yet every time they seem to be trying to confuse the opposition and usually end up confusing each other.

Compare that to Scott McCullough at Partick. All he ever seems to do is blast the ball at goal with tremendous pace and frequently accuracy, and his 'pay-off's quite high in terms of goals, 'in offs', and corners.

My point is that only Scott lines up to take the kick-everybody KNOWS what's going to happen, and defences are still s***ting themselves.

At Scapa we have so much talent, but we consistently shoot ourselves in the foot by trying to be too clever, and that applies not only to free kicks, but too often to our build up play as well.
mortonjag 2007-02-14 06:33:36
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 14 2007, 12:08 AM) [snapback]232254[/snapback]
i can't stand thierry henry. the man is under the impression he's some sort of f***ing philosopher of great brain. well, he's not.

he's a twat.

Takes one to know one I guess! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-14 06:43:22
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2007, 12:34 AM) [snapback]232260[/snapback]
In my view,Templeman is an ordinary player who has scored (against Kilmarnock) one extraordinary goal. To single him out for criticism however, is unfair. His performances to date have been no worse, if no better, than the other forward players. To his credit, since last season he has worked on his fitness and tries hard in every game. For that alone, he deserves support from Morton fans, not abuse.

Chris is in his mid twenties now, and it's probable that if he ever plays at SPL level, he'll be no more than an average performer.

What he does have which IS extraordinary, is that enigmatic style, and ungainly frame which make him a nightmare for less skilful defences and a target for a minority of myopic clowns who always need their hero and scapegoat.
mortonjag 2007-02-14 06:48:01
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Feb 13 2007, 03:15 PM) [snapback]232076[/snapback]
I know what you're saying, but when Templeman isn't playing well we have no options to provide a physical problem up front - unless Peter plays as a striker. McGowan & Linn are, I think, too wee to be a good pairing.

Indeed, almost all successful sides have a successful 'front man'.

I believe that Sanny and Bobby will soon gel, and the goals will start coming, but letting Del go seems improvident.

Mind you I'd have Weatherson in that role any day, and continue to be mystified as to why he's wasted in defence.
mortonjag 2007-02-14 06:51:17
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Feb 13 2007, 11:19 AM) [snapback]231999[/snapback]
Saturdy's result against Brechin just goes to show that Morton must avoid the playoffs at all costs. There's no way we should be contemplating another home / away tie against the likes of Brechin or Stirling who I reckon are both better than Peterhead were last season. Whilst they are beatable, Saturday's game shows how it always doesn't go your way, something to be worried about in a cup tie. Lets make sure of promotion.

Indeed, if the Ton's performances were as consistent as is your stating the obvious, we'd be on easy street! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-14 07:00:22
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Feb 13 2007, 10:39 PM) [snapback]232226[/snapback]
As Nacho says... yes, on occasion: lack of commitment; lack of belief; lack of dig is a problem... but to nowhere near the extent it's been a problem in previous seasons.

The games against St Johnstone and Killie (yes, i know they were cup games) and the game against Peterheid in particular stand out for me as I'm convinced that a couple of seasons ago, having gone a goal (or two goals) down we'd have bottled it.
But we simply dug in a bit more, and we ended up with a result.
However, by the same token, if the performance is shiiite, then surely the players have to take the flak? Personally i'd prefer if the criticism were at least constructive, but that's neither here nor there.

As someone else suggested, their performance can be 'sh*te', despite the fact they're working their baws off. Things don't always go right on the pitch, and it must be soul destroying for those young lads when they've given their all and it hasn't been good enough.

I'm almost scared to criticise JM anymore, but getting the team psychologically prepared for games, and providing motivation and direction during them are the province of the manager.

Furthermore, the absence of what for me is a 'sine qua non' in any side, an experienced 'General' has let us down. That also could only have been rectified by the back room boys.
mortonjag 2007-02-14 07:04:22
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 13 2007, 11:56 PM) [snapback]232251[/snapback]
at least he was trying. i suppose that just makes him more visible to the wee-bawed brigade.

Indeed-YOU noticed! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-14 07:07:13
QUOTE(craigeton @ Feb 13 2007, 11:56 PM) [snapback]232252[/snapback]
another hard man on a computer!

Why does saying he was ahead of Linn and McGowan make him a hard man Dickface? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-14 07:11:22
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 13 2007, 11:32 PM) [snapback]232239[/snapback]
i was practically professional at skidging. me and my mates even had various derelict buildings kitted out with the products of greenock's finest skips. we once carried a full-sized sofa halfway across town cos it was better than the one we had. we had posters, cabinets, chairs and an incredible amount of porn, got the traditional way - found in plastic bags on building sites. our squats were always imaginitively called 'the house', and if we ever got bored we'd go to the corner video and rent something out to watch at someone's proper house, hence my near-encylopaedic knowledge of american b-movies from 1987-1989.

some days i'd get up and walk round the corner until i saw my mum leave for work, and then go back to bed for half the day. i remember one day hearing that bob campbell was looking for me and had totally forgotten about it by the next time i went to school a couple of weeks later - he wanted to give me into trouble about getting scotland's lowest exam score in computing, but i think my attitude of extreme disinterest took the wind out his sails. it was the most half-hearted bollocking i've ever had.

i can't believe they've cracked down on skidging. that's a damn shame. what next, banning fighting?

I thought we were talking about 'skidging' school, not a total dereliction of one's state funded education.

Mind you the unfortunate outcome of your profligacy is apparent to the rest of us.
mortonjag 2007-02-14 07:20:59 to Kevin Keegan, Inverkip based Geordie Skunk, and ex professional footballer, who's 56 today and should have more sense.
mortonjag 2007-02-14 08:51:48
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 14 2007, 08:25 AM) [snapback]232282[/snapback]
Two edits by the moderators, and neither of them bothered to fix the spelling of predictions laugh.gif

Ach well, you can be as pedantic as you wish.

Where's your capital 'M' at 'Moderator', and your full stop at the end of your sentence?
mortonjag 2007-02-14 09:07:38
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2007, 09:04 AM) [snapback]232287[/snapback]
The other way about I think. The Iranians are Persian Shias. The Iraqis are Arabs, in the main split between Sunni and Shia, the majority being Shia. Whatever, it all amounts to a mad bloody mess.

Bloody foreigners?
mortonjag 2007-02-14 10:34:51
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Feb 14 2007, 10:32 AM) [snapback]232312[/snapback]
Or better still if the Ton were as consistent as you are a smart arse then we'd have had the league tied up by Christmas. rolleyes.gif

Indeed! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-14 10:40:30
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 14 2007, 10:24 AM) [snapback]232307[/snapback]
uch, away and do something exciting, like farting in yir maws teacup!!

...as she sooks yer plum.
mortonjag 2007-02-14 14:09:54
QUOTE(craigeton @ Feb 14 2007, 01:42 PM) [snapback]232333[/snapback]
Oh no you called me a dickface, i'm so hurt, and of course you win the argument hands down. I have absolutely no come back. Although i would have thought giving the reasons he merited the man of the match would have been better.
Of course having none i suppose namecalling is the best you could do.

Not at all Dickface-LargsTon coined the expression in a response to your puerile smileys. I merely thought that your description of him as a hard man hiding behind his keyboard was typical of a 'Dick' mentality, and found his response amusing.

Incidentally, where did I suggest Sanny was MOTM?
I actually thought Gowser put in quite a good shift for us, but Nelson stood out a mile.
mortonjag 2007-02-14 14:12:11
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Feb 14 2007, 10:27 AM) [snapback]232310[/snapback]
Phrase that worries me describing offside is, and I`ve heard it a few times.......INTERFERING with play ohmy.gif ohmy.gif laugh.gif

Indeed-Paul McKenna gets pulled up for 'interfering with the game', and he's still held up in traffic.
mortonjag 2007-02-15 07:00:51
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 14 2007, 11:01 PM) [snapback]232479[/snapback]
Jealousy's a horrid thing. Just because I can get a boner at will when all you can do is remember the last one you got on your 62nd birthday, when the bingo bus went over a cattle grid.

If you must expose my weaknesses at least get your facts right.

81st birthday
mobility scooter
crushed pepsi can on Copland Road dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-15 07:07:07
QUOTE(cammy @ Feb 14 2007, 05:43 PM) [snapback]232385[/snapback]
I quite agree with what has been said here, why did we bring in mathers I don't really like him and didn't mcinally forgot that at the start of the season mcgurn had no goals past him for quite a conciderable games. Only for him to hurt his shoulder in training then has was dropped.

I think we should have him back in the squad and give him a chance to show that what he had at the start of the season is still there, mathers must be dropped

You can only compare like with like. Mathers has huge experience which has DEFINITELY helped to steady the defence.

Whether or not he's actually better at stopping the ball going in the net may be a different matter, but if the defence is organised, he should be far less busy than Davie.
mortonjag 2007-02-15 07:12:29
QUOTE(craigeton @ Feb 14 2007, 04:55 PM) [snapback]232372[/snapback]
If you had bothered reading what Largston and i had the disagreement about you might have realised where the man of the match reference came from. Probably too difficult for you eh?

f*** off you little apology for a dog turd. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-15 07:16:31
QUOTE(grnklad2006ton @ Feb 14 2007, 11:12 PM) [snapback]232485[/snapback]
Well im sad to say he is an OAP now but was the man in his day. Why dont we sign craig nelson from brechin? Best keeper in our league and half of the first. What happened to the free money from lilley that we saved? surely that would do nelson's wages. That would be the icing on the cake if we got a keeper like that, but i like big mathers he will do i suppose.

nelson's played plenty of crap games in his day, and I don't think there's that much in it between him and Mathers.

Was Paul not voted best second div. goalie last season?
mortonjag 2007-02-15 07:24:39 The undercurrent is a personality clash between a true gentleman and a (frequently) benign autocrat.

In saying he does not go back to Scapa 'because he's not invited', the gentleman is having a litotic dig at the latter.

Seems no time since DDFR's risible-but it really wasn't my fault-'apology' to Traynor, the guy can't admit he gets anything wrong.
mortonjag 2007-02-15 08:49:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 14 2007, 10:28 PM) [snapback]232463[/snapback]
he started it!

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Upaclose couldn't start a fire.

sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

..up a close!
mortonjag 2007-02-15 08:52:36
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Feb 15 2007, 08:22 AM) [snapback]232505[/snapback]
As a player he was a Morton legend - no arguement there.
As a manager however......that's a different matter. Hearing that Rae and Montford wanted to replace him comes as no shock to me, as we had been stagnant and relegated twice under him. Anyone who wants to quote the "oh so nearly" season of 95-96 should remember that it was all down to a very talented bunch of individuals on the park, the best of whom was flogged to the huns mid-season (McGraw didn't want McInnes to go anywhere else).

It is true that he was responsible for endless testemonials and meaningless friendlies where the huns came to Scapa (who else remembers Ricky Thomson scoring in a 2-0 win and being dropped for half a season after it - must've really ticked his manager off, scoring against his other beloved club and lapping it up).
These games became very tiresome for fans and I put this to John Wilson at a Q&A session in the suporter's club. Wilson asked the Tele reporter to put his pen down for a minute and made several "off the record" comments about r*ng*rs, which basically meant that he hated seeing us play them all the time too. Unfortuately, this meant that the next testemonial (Alexander's) saw us play Falkirk. unsure.gif

The WDE seats were paid for by the sale of players like Neil Orr and Joe McLaughlin, if I remember correctly. dry.gif

That may all be correct-some of it certainly is.

This is 2007-why can two old men not be pals when they've shared so much in the past?
mortonjag 2007-02-15 08:58:37
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 14 2007, 09:49 PM) [snapback]232444[/snapback]
Close game with a 1-0 victory courtesy of a Bobby Linn richochet (spelling?)
Crowd about 2300

Copy cat!

Pinnochet was a RICHochet, but it's ricochet (I fink) unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-15 09:02:12
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Feb 14 2007, 06:30 PM) [snapback]232413[/snapback]
In terms of free-kicks at goal, there is no problem. Both Jamie and Peter know what they are doing and are both very good at striking from distance. It is when the team has to get on the end of a set piece from wide or a corner that we struggle to take advantage. A good point Chrissiboi about committing men forward. Too often we have the ball out wide and only one (sometimes not any!) players in the box! That's when you're looking for (if Stevenson has the ball wide right) Temps to hit the back post, McGowan to hit the front post, Millar to burst through the centre, McAllister to make a late run from the left corner of the penalty box, McLaughlin to sit and pick up any clearances and Peter to offer to take the ball at right back. That just never happens, not even close. The best we get is McGowan coming short and Temps going in but being a relatively small target in a big box. We play a lot of nice football on the edge of the box, but sometimes it is just as good to fire a cross into a box with 3 or 4 attacking players. Sure we'll get caught offside a few times, but we will get round the back eventually!

I agree-sounds like we could do with somebody like that guy Linn up at Peterhead!

Give it time-it will come.
mortonjag 2007-02-15 09:06:41
QUOTE(dazza @ Feb 14 2007, 05:57 PM) [snapback]232391[/snapback]
At the end of the day training facilities for any club come down to grass and the people on them. Dont see how training facilities can make a big difference if the players training on them aint up too the standard.

Our training regime and facilities have produced the fittest and least injury prone squad in the division.

Our players are the most talented in the division.

Our general attitude and application have come on by leaps and bounds.

We still lack composure, vision, and a killer instinct.

mortonjag 2007-02-15 09:08:52
QUOTE(dj-ton @ Feb 14 2007, 10:09 AM) [snapback]232298[/snapback]
just in for any one intrested it was deano with 2 goals(headers) , scott mckellar x2 and bryan graham with the 5th
stu tongue.gif

Which just goes to PROVE he should be playing for the reserves! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-15 09:13:18 Watched the game with a Hun-after watching the Tel Aviv match.

HER comment-not mine--

'The Old Firm think they'd do well in the Premiership-they haven't a clue'.
mortonjag 2007-02-15 09:19:15 36 today, and tuppence for your thoughts.
mortonjag 2007-02-15 09:42:33 If you'd spent half your life somewhere and then were made to feel unwelcome/unwanted, would you rush back?

An invitation to do so might persuade reconsideration.
mortonjag 2007-02-15 09:46:09
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 15 2007, 09:28 AM) [snapback]232516[/snapback]
Of course maybe they just used thinner paper to cut costs....

Might work in publishing-doesn't in the bog.
mortonjag 2007-02-15 10:23:08
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 15 2007, 09:52 AM) [snapback]232522[/snapback]
Morton should make a point of inviting Allan to Cappielow. He gave his health to the club and he always did his best - as a manager he may not have been the best but he certainly was better than most, and he tried to entertain even when he couldn't afford the team he would have liked.

I detest the huns, but Allan is from Govan and so at least he is supporting his local team. I see no reason he shouldn't go along on a freebie, he deserves it. He owes Morton nothing, but the contrary is not the case. He should be told that if he turns up at Cappielow he will be admitted free of charge and given the best seat in the stand, and refreshed in the boardroom after the game. It would cost the club peanuts but would do wonders for our image, and he would be cheered to the rafters by all Morton supporters, as he was when he turned up in the Morton end at Parkhead a few years ago.

I couldn't have put it better Alibi.

Allan is badly crippled-some of the posters maybe don't fully understand how debilitated he is.

Why on earth should he trek to the uncomfortable old stand at Scapa, and pay to get in, when he can watch an SPL club in relative comfort-a club he freely admits he's supported all of his life?

The sadness for me is that he DID give his all to his second love-the Ton- and in return has been made to feel like a reject.
mortonjag 2007-02-15 10:28:29 I had the misfortune to tune into those award things last night-not for long I can tell you.

Oasis-just to take one example-THAT'S MUSIC !!! unsure.gif

I'm not denying people the right to entertainment-let's face it some folk still go to church-but MUSIC-not in a YEAR of Sundays. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-15 10:59:37
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 15 2007, 10:34 AM) [snapback]232528[/snapback]
I never learned the 12 times table in school, so all this 6d patter etc in old Oor Wullies and The Broons baffles me!

We just grew up with it and never gave it a second thought.

Going right back to my early childhood.

2 farthings = one halfpenny (both copper)
2 halfpennies = one penny (NOT one PENCE as many now incorrectly say) (copper)
3 pennies = threepence (a coin in its own right) came in brass and silver
6 pennies = sixpence or a 'tanner' (silver)
12 pennies = one shilling (a bob) (silver)
24 pennies = two shillings = one florin (known as a 'two bob bit') (silver)
30 pennies = a 'half crown' which had several nicknames-usually 'two and six' (silver)
crowns were minted-worth 60 pennies or a quarter of a pound but they were not in common circulation.
Then came the child's dream at birthdays, or as a tip for the 'paper boy' at Christmas,
the ten shilling, or as it was affectionately known-'ten bob note', and of course the pound sterling was worth twenty shillings or 240 pence.

You might think it got easier after that, as the paper currency was in decimal multiples, but the Guinea (worth 21 shillings) was still legal tender and minted. Although not in common circulation, Doctors, lawyers and such still billed their clients in Guineas, and not long before I started work some folks still has their wages stated in Guineas and pence, so you had to know the 21 x table too!!

It's always seemed one of the oddest things of history, that Clive Sinclair's invention of the pocket calculator almost coincided with the end of imperial currency.

In those days you HAD to be able to count-it was more than your money was worth not to. !!


mortonjag 2007-02-15 11:08:34 My daughter worked for a while on an NHS twenty four based sex helpline for youngsters.

Most of the callers were kids with genuine questions, but you always got the 'wind up' merchants.

One day a guy was giving my daughter's friend a hard time with dirty talk, and eventually came out with, "I want to f*ck you stupid'.

She calmy replied, 'Well you can't'.

'WHY' he exclaimed in mock disappointment, hanging up abruptly as she said, 'Because you're at the other end of the 'phone, little boy'. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-15 11:33:26
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Feb 15 2007, 11:30 AM) [snapback]232544[/snapback]
Are you sure that wasn't groats auld yin? Bring back the half pence I say!! When they did away with that half pence sweets doubled in price!! Scandalous I tell you.

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I used to go into a wee shop near my Primary School (Carnegie Park annexe).

You could buy a whole treacle or soda scone for a penny, but they were so big-a good bit bigger than a tea plate and about 1 and a 1/2 inches thick- most of the kids just paid their halpenny for a 'half scone'.

No need for a 'play piece' and cheap at the price.
mortonjag 2007-02-15 11:37:26 Have a look-it's a fun site for kids, and gives a wee history of Dougie as a young *anker.


It's nice to see auld 'shoogly' moving with the times.

His latest confectionery offering, guaranteed to empty your pocket and rot your teeth, is Millions 'SHAKERS'.

Say no more! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-15 11:50:12
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 15 2007, 11:46 AM) [snapback]232552[/snapback]
Is there really any need for this post?

Assuming a non-rhetorical question directed to me, my answer is that the post is simply-'general NONSENSE'.
Is there really any need for your question? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-15 11:51:45
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 15 2007, 11:46 AM) [snapback]232553[/snapback]
Refuse point blank to use the self service, in the long run it will do some poor bugger out of a job.
On the continent they introduced a scheme like this in petrol stations where you pay by credit card.
There are now countless unmanned petrol stations and pity anyone low on juice who pulls in there and doesn't have a valid c/c. You end up asking someone to fill your car with their card and you hand over the cash, and that is not as easy as it sounds. mad.gif

Asda are using the too.
mortonjag 2007-02-15 11:56:31
QUOTE(franco @ Feb 15 2007, 11:52 AM) [snapback]232556[/snapback]
Thought it was a good show last night, reflecting how much music as a whole, and British music with it, has improved over the last few years. I liked oasis up to a point - Liam is just obnoxious and sang poorly last night but the rest of the band were on good form. Scissor Sisters were a scream, Amy Winehouse and The Killers were fab. And as much as she should just shut up sometimes, I could watch Joss Stone all night.

And back to the now, It's Jack Johnson's Brushfire Fairytales on the radiogram. He was robbed last night!

I don't at all mind a lot of the instrumental /band stuff-Noel can handle a guitar no question about it, but it's getting rarer and rarer to hear anything vocally melodic.
mortonjag 2007-02-15 12:14:56 It takes all kinds!

I'm a strong believer in selective socialism-if I'm flush I don't mind giving a bit to help the poorer off, and if I'm skint, I'll use any means available to redress matters.

Most people's perception of societal economy is a function of their means and standing. None of us lives in vacuo.

In my experience, those who deviate from that norm have hidden agendas, frequently hidden even to their innermost thoughts.

M.P.'s possibly start off in the latter category, but irrespective of party soon revel in the communal pig swill.
mortonjag 2007-02-15 12:33:28
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Feb 15 2007, 12:30 PM) [snapback]232563[/snapback]
I was on the phone when a stuttering foreigner was trying to give me her name.

The name was Litcha or Leitcha, something along them lines which i asked her to spell, outcame:-

L for Leitcha
E for Elephant
I for Eye
T for Tongue
C for Tuna, laugh.gif laugh.gif

in which I had to put her on hold because I could hardly breathe for laughing. Good ol' Leitcha will remain a legend because of this, which was also heard by my team manager listening in to the call.

Alpha Charlie Echo! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-15 14:05:58 Oh well-it seems Mathers and Sanny are the main victims of this week's destruction.

Frankly I don't think that by division 2 standards we've got a bad player in the regular squad.

He was 'to blame' for BOTH goals against Motherwell-the first an unstoppable volley that found the 'postage stamp' top corner, and the other was an excellently placed shot from McDonald from relatively close range, after he turned Greacen whose challenge undoubtedly had Paul unsighted.

On Saturday he definitely misread the first goal, but again only after a glaring mistake by Stu, caused by the gusting wind, and the second was a close range effort after a defensive blunder.

If you want to back up your argument, it would be better if you gave some decent evidence.
mortonjag 2007-02-15 14:11:58
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Feb 15 2007, 01:28 PM) [snapback]232581[/snapback]
We need to create an atmosphere at Cappielow on Saturday and sing a bit! wink.gif
The teams looked a bit flat at times this season, I feel this is a consequence of the Ton supports moaning/shouting and not singing/backing them. We HAVE to remember this is a young talented team that when full of confidence can play some great stuff, but as soon as the fans go silent or criticise, alot of them seem to go back into their shell.
This is a problem that WE - the fans - are creating,and we need to stop it sad.gif

So let's get behind the team, encourage them, sing for them and watch us get back to winning ways on Saturday rolleyes.gif

Mon e Ton[color="#0000FF"][/color][font="Impact"][/font]

I'm afraid you're on a hiding to nothing.

Your post has been duplicated several times before. Expectation is huge, and if not fulfilled the 'supporters' remain silent unless they've got opposition fans or a naff ref to have a go at.
mortonjag 2007-02-15 14:16:06
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 15 2007, 01:45 PM) [snapback]232583[/snapback]
Well Nacho, before posting questions like this maybe you should do some background research. I'll tell you why....

It was 1944 and The Jag was discharged from the Royal Navy due to a lower back injury which he received after a particularly wild night in the communal sleeping quarters. He'd been at sea for many years and couldn't wait to get home to his one true female love, Senga. After arriving in Greenock, he walked like a cowboy who'd just rode bareback over 100 miles of rough country, until he made it to Senga's door.

Jag had brought her home some things that were hard to get during the war that he thought they could enjoy together: a banana, a sausage and a cucumber. Oh how the Jag had grown to love these things while on a Navy ship with 200 other men. Anyway, Jag sneaked into Senga's house and was perturbed by a strange noise coming from her room. Thinking it was a burglar, Jag whapped out the cucumber and burst in. What he saw was to destroy him......

There was Dougie Rae, pummelling Senga like a good 'un while feeding her a new invention he had come up with - Millions. Without breaking his rhythm, Dougie ordered his henchmen to remove the Jag with a cry of "Tiny, Tasty, Chewy, Sweet - get rid of the slack arsed sailor". The last words he ever heard his beloved Senga say was "Aw Dougie, I love it when ye shoogle it about", which is why Jag has labelled him "Old Shoogly".

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mortonjag 2007-02-15 14:21:06
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 15 2007, 02:07 PM) [snapback]232590[/snapback]
A new low Mortonjag. blink.gif Which when you think about it, is quite an achievement.

Why don't you do as the last line of your post says.
EDIT:- Thinking about it, why were you even looking at a "fun site for kids " website ?

I thought you had me on 'ignore' you humourless thickhead-all 'tongue in cheek fun', and good publicity for 'old shoogly's website too.

The reason I looked it up was that I was rather impressed by his Buchanan's Toffees ad on the back programme page, and was curious.

Of its kind, and given the target market I think it's an excellent site.
mortonjag 2007-02-15 14:24:37
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ Feb 15 2007, 02:10 PM) [snapback]232591[/snapback]
Is there any need for that part? sad.gif

Well I thought some might have the wit to check the site, where Dougie's exploits as a young banker are detailed.

As I suspected though, several have , as usual, jumped to conclusions tailored to their perception!
mortonjag 2007-02-15 14:34:33
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 15 2007, 02:28 PM) [snapback]232601[/snapback]
Oh look, personal insults. How clever.

I took you off ignore a week or so ago when you stopped being so negative - I announced it and even complimented your post.

Well you clearly missed what WAS intended to be harmless humour, and I reckon only a thickhead could be so dim. If in fact I'm wrong I apologise-just think a bit harder next time you 'have a go'.

I'm well aware that you took me off 'ignore' because for once you happened to agree with some of my sentiments.

I'm not sure though, that being 'complimented' for having a like mind is necessarily the correct expression.
mortonjag 2007-02-15 15:00:13
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 15 2007, 02:45 PM) [snapback]232606[/snapback]
You referred to the club's Chairman as an 'anker .

So I didn't miss the intention of your post at all.

You ARE a thickhead if that's a serious comment.

I described the history (which ThornTon's been kind enough to post), of Dougie as a young *anker.

What DID I intend people to think/do except THINK !

The thinking ones would have checked the website and spotted 'banker'.

The small minded little myopes welcomed the gilt edged opportunity to put their big feet in it as usual by jumping to inaccurate conclusions.
mortonjag 2007-02-15 15:03:35
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 15 2007, 03:00 PM) [snapback]232612[/snapback]
When you break it down it doesn't look that bad I agree.

However, when you compare it to our form from 9th December - 20th January it is relatively poor :

Played 8
Won 8 (4 away from home and including 1 SPL team)

In the period I mentioned we won 8 in a row, in the last 3 matches we haven't won I'd say that's a contrast in form.

1 point from 6 is poor form from any team. From a runaway league leader, it's dire IMO.
mortonjag 2007-02-15 16:30:45
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 15 2007, 03:52 PM) [snapback]232628[/snapback]
Oh be quiet you silly little man.

You called the chairman a wanker in what you regarded as a cute and clever way. You did this for a cheap laugh and no one laughed, get over it.

You really are a fool of a man. rolleyes.gif

I don't have to call the chairman a 'wanker' as you put it-the evidence is there for all to see.

I certainly alluded to his potential for making 'cock ups' by the use of an asterisk when I mentioned his history in banking-there was nothing particularly cute or clever intended.

As I said, I was simply poking fun at Dougie. I'm actually quite fond of the old wanker, and fail to see what super sensitive little fannies like you hope to gain from your sycophantic quasi supportive ramblings.
mortonjag 2007-02-15 20:18:58
QUOTE(Edinton @ Feb 15 2007, 06:52 PM) [snapback]232658[/snapback]
Well, I don't know if I'd call him a 'pal' as such, more an acquaintance, a buddy maybe but probably not, associate perhaps, or from now on you could maybe say accomplice, but pal is just taking things too far...

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I've told you repeatedly to stick up for yourself son-don't back down to another paranoid reptile who speaks for all.

Oh, by the way, Mum says should you not be in your bed by now? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-15 20:25:38
QUOTE(Cawston @ Feb 15 2007, 07:37 PM) [snapback]232670[/snapback]
Yeah, don't you just hate people like that? rolleyes.gif

Au contraire, as one of only two who never err, I feel deeply sorry for them. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-15 20:40:12
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 15 2007, 08:31 PM) [snapback]232684[/snapback]
Just remember what happened to the first one who was 'without sin'.
OUCH ! laugh.gif

Totally f*cked up my mate's plans that eejit-mind you it was that woman who was to blame-typical if you ask me. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-15 20:47:38
QUOTE(craigeton @ Feb 15 2007, 08:41 PM) [snapback]232690[/snapback]
tongue.gif Easy tongue.gif Easy tongue.gif Easy biggrin.gif We have a winner.

Feigned weakness, you dollop of pseudo canine faeces - the match has not yet commenced- en garde! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-16 06:44:33
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 15 2007, 11:14 PM) [snapback]232709[/snapback]
Well they've a lot of overtime to do to achieve that date.

Tesco are getting very good (or bad) at this sort of thing.

They creared a huge area for their massive Pollok store, with adjacent properties built for occupation, and new access roads to the M77.

They're about to do the same from Partick Cross in Glasgow down towards the river-a development including a large number of flats.

I know someone who's been in negotiations with them on that one, and he says they are extremely ambitious, and quite ruthless in their approach.
mortonjag 2007-02-16 06:46:05
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 15 2007, 11:17 PM) [snapback]232711[/snapback]
Now who's at the wind-up tongue.gif

He knows me better than you think! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-16 06:53:57
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Feb 15 2007, 09:06 PM) [snapback]232697[/snapback]
Ye have to admit it, ye were reeled in that time

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mortonjag 2007-02-16 06:58:43
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 15 2007, 11:48 PM) [snapback]232718[/snapback]
don't worry, he'll be back for more. 40 odd times a day, 15% of total posts.

When did you crawl back out from under your stone?

Seems I'm 'put on ignore' by huffy wee boys who keek in from the sidelines and still can't resist the temptation to have a go at their betters.

Typical school skidger mentality! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-16 07:03:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 16 2007, 07:00 AM) [snapback]232760[/snapback]
What do you do to actively work and campaign for a free and independent Scotland ?

Tell me when you are campaigning next and I'll come meet you. Perhaps then you can repeat what you potsed above to my face.

This is supposed to be a 'General Nonsense' forum on a Morton website Colkitto, not a bloody political manifesto.

You are entitled to your views, but why don't you take 'baw face' off as your avator, and replace it with something more intelligent-like mine for example.
mortonjag 2007-02-16 07:11:01 Valentino Rossi -28 today.

Younger than Boozehound and twice as fast on a scooter! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-16 07:13:40
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 16 2007, 07:06 AM) [snapback]232763[/snapback]
I bet you actually look like that

You're a betting man-'baw face'll tip you a winner any day!

I don't look nearly as handsome as Munx, but when it comes to looks 'Salmond's not even a starter!
mortonjag 2007-02-16 08:00:12
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 16 2007, 07:31 AM) [snapback]232767[/snapback]
Personally I don't find any man attractive.......you obviously have issues to deal with ohmy.gif

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You clearly have a fatal attraction for Mr Salmond-anyway should you not be on the street by now handing out the leaflets?

Some man you are Colkitto, your baws must be frozen in this weather-try wearing troosers-I know they're very British, but you can get thae tartan wans- and nobody can keek to see if you're cheating.
mortonjag 2007-02-16 08:37:22
QUOTE(dj-ton @ Feb 16 2007, 08:24 AM) [snapback]232770[/snapback]
tongue.gif who???

The one that's been my MOTM twice for the first team-sarcasm Stu-the lowest form of wit, but I was tired at the time!
mortonjag 2007-02-16 08:38:56
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 16 2007, 08:33 AM) [snapback]232772[/snapback]
he even replies to himself. let's see if he breaks 50 posts today. on current form it's not far off.

You make that SO easy!

Going for the 51 now... rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-16 08:42:19
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 16 2007, 08:30 AM) [snapback]232771[/snapback]
i got to the bottom of the page and then found out there were 6 more to go... surely this level of genius has to tail off? i was literally crying with laughter there.

i need to do more patting on the fanny, i think. awooga

You shouldn't still be touching yourself up at your age. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-16 09:51:32
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Feb 16 2007, 09:02 AM) [snapback]232779[/snapback]
Who the Fu(k do you think you are - sanctimonious? have a look in the mirror. Read the post, I said I dont want them a Cappielow, I didn't say I had the right to decide who could go and who couldn't go anywhere, I said I.

If you think the debate is a bore I am finding it hard to understand why you have added your comment?

But Davie - you keep on going and booing your heart out. In fact why dont you sit with the away fans in the stand, they could do with a few more each week and you could really give the Ton players pelters from there.

I really think a hell of a lot of people on this board would love it if the Ton did not get promoted - then they would have even more to moan about, they could shout at even more players and give Jim the abuse that they seem to love.

COME ON YOU TON !!!!!!!!

You've completely wasted your reasonable post with that last bit-we all react differently to ups and downs, but to suggest that ahelluva lot don't want promotion gives the lie to your general perception.
mortonjag 2007-02-16 10:29:29
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Feb 16 2007, 10:16 AM) [snapback]232788[/snapback]
Fair point, but the amount of nagative comments from a lot of the Ton support does get to me. In the great scheme of things it was not that long ago that I was standing at Recration Park thinking I could be watching the last ever Ton game. We are now full time, 7 points clear in the second division and capable of taking on the likes of Kilmarnock at Cappielow. I know that most fans think we should have reached the 1st Division before now but we have had the likes of Partick & Gretna to deal with in the 2nd. We have a good team of players and are going in the right direction. With the backing of the fans we can continue this progress.

I for one am happy with the fair Morton have served up this season and dont feel there is precious little to be booing. If I thought the players were not giving 100% then fair enough - but I beleive they are.

I agree with just about everything you say, but some of us are less patient than others for various reasons.

For example, I still believe that DDFR has made silly managerial selections. I was very hard on JM for a while and have tried to lay off-that doesn't mean he's not still a rookie in management.

I never have a go at individual players, either on here, or at games, unless I'm convinced they're swinging the lead-McLuskey was one example of that.
mortonjag 2007-02-16 11:14:29
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Feb 16 2007, 11:03 AM) [snapback]232817[/snapback]
so GIRUY

GIRUY2
mortonjag 2007-02-16 11:16:43
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 16 2007, 09:58 AM) [snapback]232784[/snapback]
Valentino Rossi is a living legend. You are a decrepit auld bam. See the similarity?

Anyway, happy 21st TWGP. May you get a load of Lacoste gear.

He's a legend-FFS he's not old enough to ride a bike! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-16 11:20:02
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 16 2007, 10:18 AM) [snapback]232791[/snapback]
blink.gif laugh.gif

UNLIKE some of the rough 'Wham bam and thank you Sam's' who've only ever ridden a bike with any panache-before the stabilisers came off! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-16 12:49:18
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Feb 16 2007, 11:48 AM) [snapback]232839[/snapback]
McInally's gone even further than he did last week. In todays Tele he not only states our lineup for tomorrow and the formation but he gives the times of his substitutions, who will be replacing who, a list of the goalscorers, yellow cards, halftime song, number of pies available, the colour of Dougies shirt and tie, weather conditions, the result of the 50/50 draw and how foxy the May Hughes dancers will be looking. Bold as brass.

Has he given the time of the kick off, or do we have to guess?
mortonjag 2007-02-16 12:56:09
QUOTE(giz @ Feb 16 2007, 12:17 PM) [snapback]232860[/snapback]
Giz has not posted simply cos he was in germany on business...but Im back and i'll ignore the non complimentory comments about myself as I think its best for all of us.
Maybe my comments came across the wrong way (just call me Romanov!!!!!).I have met Allan many times esp thro the save the ton campaign and i really do like him as a person and for what he did in his playing days for the Ton.Unfortunately imo I cannot accept that he needs to be asked back to cappielow rather than just turn up.

giz, the point has been made loudly and clearly while you've been on Hun business.

It is NOT that he NEEDS to be asked back-he's more comfortable at Castle Greyskull, not just because of the vastly superior facilities for the disabled, but because he is made to feel UNWELCOME at Scapa.

If he was invited as a guest by you know who, Allan, being the gentleman he is, would undoubtedly turn up.
mortonjag 2007-02-16 12:59:31
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 16 2007, 12:29 PM) [snapback]232866[/snapback]
I hope someone gobs in their half-time pies.

Quite a gob job, by any standards!
mortonjag 2007-02-16 13:05:17
QUOTE(rex manning @ Feb 16 2007, 12:55 PM) [snapback]232876[/snapback]
The debate isn't whether the abuse should or shouldn't affect the players, it quite clearly does.

My main concern about last Saturday was the tangible feeling of negativity that came from the shed when we went behind. The atmosphere was terrible and ive never seen the ground empty so quick when the 2nd goal went in. This negative atmosphere quite clearly played a part in us not getting back into the game. I just hope tomorrow if we're struggling we don't start with the boo's again, there's a horrible self fufilling prophecy feel to this season recently.

Absolutely-there was no significant vocal support from the kick off-almost as though expectation is far too high after the Killie game.

I can't understand the mentality of those who will bawl their heads off at a vocal opposition support (which is fair game), but can't get behind the boys on those 'ghost' afternoons at Scapa.

Even three seasons ago, I frequently felt we gave the boys far more encouragement at away matches.
mortonjag 2007-02-16 13:07:42
QUOTE(Edinton @ Feb 16 2007, 01:02 PM) [snapback]232881[/snapback]
i.e. not very?

C'mon-it's just the May Hughes Dancers, not La Troupe du Chien Manque. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-16 17:29:12
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 16 2007, 01:26 PM) [snapback]232890[/snapback]
laugh.gif inside maybe not in the stands..

Well Bryan, when did they install the lift at Scapa, for example?
mortonjag 2007-02-16 17:40:27
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 16 2007, 02:31 PM) [snapback]232910[/snapback]
Excellent use of engorged there.


rolleyes.gif

It has to be completely engorged before it 'stauns'--'wee mini'--'big merc' etc.
mortonjag 2007-02-16 17:45:28 Do you still beat your wife?

Answer yes or no.

Kit Kat is a biscuit / chocolate bar combo. Why anyone should think it HAS to be one or the other defeats logic.
mortonjag 2007-02-17 08:14:09 Good morning gentlemen-I hope you are all in fine fettle for today's battle with the 'honest men', and not nursing TOO nasty hangovers! smile.gif

Tonsilitis-you started this-and you are right- I've no idea why I've been laying off that inept Piggery reject of a 'manager'. I have simply bent to pressure on this daft wee forum, and I am NOT a BENDER-well only sometimes (sorry EdinTon-I KNOW what I promised, but this is SERIOUS).

Back to the issue-I consistently criticised JM for

1/ Tactical naievity

2/ Inability to motivate the youngsters

3/ Failure to sign an experienced middle of park player

4/ Bizarre team selections/substitutions

5/ Possibly allowing DDFR far too much influence on the playing side.


I have said from 'day one' that we will win the league this season in spite of, rather than because of him.

We had a dreadful run prior to the Annan game, and I well remember the speculation when his tubby sidekick took charge there.

What happened thereafter was remarkable-we went on an excellent run, culminating in the comfortable defeat of Killie in the cup.

I have actually been FAR more supportive of JM for several weeks than a large number of our posters-I felt he'd finally got things right with the attitude during the Killie game, and , although we've struggled to take points at Beath, and last week, again we did excellently at Fir Park.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that point 2/ seems to have been addressed.

As for the rest, I'll wait and see.

Ayr won't even attempt to play us at football today, and if they do, I'll be delighted with our victory.

Unfortunately I've predicted another dour battle, and Bobby Linn will open his account.
mortonjag 2007-02-17 08:24:01
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Feb 16 2007, 09:44 PM) [snapback]233072[/snapback]
He's in rehab with Robbie - Ward B - Low self esteem manifested via self publicity accompanied with delusions of polarisation........!

Closer than you think CB-but fortunately Mr Sun's been quite good of late and the serotonin levels are not too unfavourable.
mortonjag 2007-02-17 08:25:59
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 17 2007, 01:55 AM) [snapback]233138[/snapback]
are you outing two people at once here or what? that's the weirdest post i think i've ever seen.

What's your problem-scuttle off you nasty little boy-I always get my medicine from EdinTon on a Friday.
mortonjag 2007-02-17 08:36:54
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 16 2007, 08:33 PM) [snapback]232994[/snapback]
Theres little need for one.

I agree Bryan, but if you want all inclusive policies for disabled people, they should be able to sit up in the stand if they want to.

I know one disabled chap in particular (who just happens to be a Hun), and I was trying to persuade him to come to the Killie game with me.

He's got so used to the lift at Ibrox, that he couldn't get his mind round trying the stairs at Scapa-though I believe he could have managed O.K.

Now he wishes he'd tried BTW!
mortonjag 2007-02-17 08:43:54
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Feb 17 2007, 12:51 AM) [snapback]233127[/snapback]
I've got a helluva lot of time for Dean. Agreed he's no Beckenbauer but as other have already mentioned, he's got dig which at times we lack. I also think his all round game improves the longer he gets a run in the team but that's down to McInally.

As for the " when we move up..", we need players now, in the 2nd div. Yeah he mght not fit if we go up, but he's what we need now. I'm not saying every game but I really think Dean can be used to great effect if used properly.

We'd be even more likely to get 'muscled out' next year by several of the current first division sides, who DON'T play great football.

I believe that Dean would be perfectly able to cope there as a midfield 'scrapper', and the boy's football IS improving, even though he's not had many chances in the first team yet.
mortonjag 2007-02-17 08:46:39
QUOTE(ayrstorm @ Feb 15 2007, 10:56 AM) [snapback]232534[/snapback]
1-1

on a side note,
Ayr hosted Gretna at start of the week and beat them 3-2
not seen who was in the Gretna side, but from the report looks like it was ayr's full 1st team

Ayr were a thorough DISGRACE to the SFL last time they came here.

Hopefully that Gretna result indicates they're now trying to play football, and if they do, we will win today.

Nobody in Div 2 can beat the Ton at FOOTBALL.
mortonjag 2007-02-17 08:55:41
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Feb 17 2007, 03:48 AM) [snapback]233144[/snapback]
I agree. He has always responded to letters I have written to him , about Morton and otherwise ; he also went on the march from Clyde Square to Cappielow. I don't think there was helluva lot he could do about the Hugh Scott situation but it was through Duncans motion that the issue was lobbied in the Scottish Parliament ; or something like that. I was at parliament that day lol.

PS : I know nothing about politics , nor do I really care.. I don't think booing Mr McNeil is very constructive though.

You 'know nothing about politics, nor do you really care'.


WDE you are a wise man-just look what happens on the general nonsense forum when otherwise sensible and educated guys start to spout on 'politics'.

Unless you buy into anarchy, government of some kind will always be a necessary evil for communities.

I have long since discarded the concept of a 'GOOD' MP, but undoubtedly some do more for their constituents than others.
mortonjag 2007-02-17 09:01:13
QUOTE(farpost @ Feb 16 2007, 10:06 PM) [snapback]233090[/snapback]
That's the problem with the players weve got/play, we don't have wingers or full backs who gets to the bye line (poss exception being Finlayson who can't really cross his legs) Last time McAlister got to the bye line and crossed (not short cut backs) was against Clyde (O.G.) even if we get/got this sorted out we don't have any REAL arial ball winners in the box for the crosses. If Ayr start the same nonsense (a al Brechin) then Weatherson has to go right up front and in the middle, simple as that. We know what plan b. is clubs have done this for years, we just don't have the right players to play it. Our mid field players have to run through the middle like the old inside forwards (remember them good old days)

Where have you been all my life 'farpost'?

Clearly a man who sees what's going on-why are so many others blind to it?
mortonjag 2007-02-17 09:04:47
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 17 2007, 08:48 AM) [snapback]233167[/snapback]
For getting what they wanted out of the game? blink.gif

NO-as you perfectly well understand- for THE WAY thay got it.
mortonjag 2007-02-17 09:07:20
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 17 2007, 08:40 AM) [snapback]233164[/snapback]
Is this thread not going a bit far?

I mean the topic is basically "old man goes abroad to watch his team at invite of close friend"

AND the 'old man' just happened to be a Mr McGraw from Govan-strange that Morton fans should have any interest in a geriatric alien.
mortonjag 2007-02-17 09:14:54 They bake the biscuit.

They make the chocolate.

They put the two together.

Is a half caste black or white-well it may depend on VAT regulations !!!

Aye right.

As one wise man already said, it's a chocolate biscuit.

Have a break! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-17 09:19:17
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 17 2007, 02:55 AM) [snapback]233143[/snapback]
this was posted on the messageboard a few years ago, so in the interests of tradition, i'll post the same reply i did then.

number 17; i once tried to clap a very small monkey, and the wee f***er bit me. it was sore as f*** and then i had to get about 12 different jags for various monkey-borne diseases.

never trust a wee monkey. they're c***s.

mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-17 09:29:30
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Feb 17 2007, 09:15 AM) [snapback]233176[/snapback]
Thankyou for all the replies, at the end of the day im glad i never stopped, maybe he couldnt have been that bad afterall, considering every other vehicle behind me kept going also. WDE, you stick to your travels, and never try and sell me 14 cigs for £3 ever again wink.gif

You did the correct thing.

1/ It was paramount not to be distracted from your own driving-you shouldn't even have slowed down unneccessarily as you could have caused an accident yourself.

2/ Had you tried to 'help' him, you could have ended up in court for 'administering first aid inappropriately'.

3/ At best you could have called 999 for an ambulance, but only if you have a 'hands free' 'phone, or after pulling into the side where and when it was safe to do so.
mortonjag 2007-02-17 09:35:45
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 17 2007, 09:17 AM) [snapback]233177[/snapback]
How many threads like this are needed? Can't we just have one big pointless one? Where people can post vague, banal statements like 'if we all get behind the team......'.

I can't stand this kind of Neol Edmonds-esque 'if we all channel our thoughts positively we can move mountains', lack of any intellectual substance or realism, happy-clappy mumbo jumbo pish.
As an argument you might as well post 'wear what you wore the last time we played really, really well and we'll win'.
Morton is a full-time professional football club. The players are professionals. Some Morton fans are like the drunk girl at a party; 'me, me, me'. I had no idea that the team winning or losing was down to us.
We have our fair share of boo boys but as a proportion of the overall support I would say it's fairly low.

No offence to the poster.

Taking a sledgehammer to crack a nut Davie-I agree in general with both of you-if that's possible.

I loved the old bugle blowing, happy-clappy mumbo jumbo days of the sixties and seventies-and I DO believe it lifted the team spirit.
mortonjag 2007-02-17 09:42:04
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 17 2007, 09:33 AM) [snapback]233183[/snapback]
Wasn't there... was in the hospital rolleyes.gif

Well you were the lucky one that afternoon-don't take that too seriously, but I can hardly remember any side coming to Scapa who so unashamedly made NO attempt to attack, and totally wasted the game as a spectacle.

All they did for the whole game was try to get to the ball first and lump it away, and they always had seven or eight men behind the ball.

I was doubly disappointed, because Connor's side had given us a couple of good beatings last time around.
mortonjag 2007-02-17 09:46:23
QUOTE(Capuan @ Feb 17 2007, 09:41 AM) [snapback]233186[/snapback]
mortonjag 2007-02-17 10:16:22
QUOTE(ianton @ Feb 17 2007, 10:04 AM) [snapback]233197[/snapback]
aye and i was one of them this guy is a poor excuse for a human being.as long as he was alright it was fcuk everybody else.he went into the right line of work,politics there you can lie your way through life quite easily and collect a nice lump sum the end of it .oh and don't get me started about their expenses.give him hell today.at least it will give us something to shout about for 90 mins

Sounds about right for any MP.
mortonjag 2007-02-17 10:21:30
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 17 2007, 10:16 AM) [snapback]233203[/snapback]
I was in the shop this morning buying the morning paper when I overheard a woman telling the shop assistant that a man had been found dead this morning in Port Glasgow, apparently the man had came off his bike and badly injured himself, there was a few cars in the area at the time but none had stopped to give assistance, the man managed to move in a homeward direction with the aid of his bike, using it in a zimmer like fashion, word also has it that the gentleman was shouting up at windows trying to get help only to be giving verbal abuse from a drunk resident. The man finaly could go no further and sat down in the hope someone would see him and come to his aid but died around 3am from either blood lose, the cold or maybe both, a full investigation has been launched by Greenock Police.

......and a report will be sent to the procurator fiscal in 2009.
mortonjag 2007-02-17 10:23:38
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Feb 17 2007, 10:22 AM) [snapback]233208[/snapback]
Winding you up ffs, where are ye now, Hungary or over here

On his bike, pedalling like f*ck out your road.
mortonjag 2007-02-17 10:25:09
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 17 2007, 10:23 AM) [snapback]233211[/snapback]
With an official accident enquiry in 2013

and findings expected some time later.
mortonjag 2007-02-17 10:28:30
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Feb 17 2007, 10:25 AM) [snapback]233214[/snapback]
It is highly unlikely that any Donkey would stand for New Labour - we are far too principled and workmanlike for that bunch!

tongue.gif laugh.gif

Indeed DD-total bunch of asses IMO. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-17 10:30:17
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 17 2007, 10:28 AM) [snapback]233218[/snapback]
And then an arrest warrant issued for a certain motorist who failed to report an accident laugh.gif

quickly altered to an order for disinterrment and DNA analysis.
mortonjag 2007-02-17 10:33:52
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Feb 17 2007, 10:29 AM) [snapback]233220[/snapback]
Biscuit, Cake, who cares, can demolish a double packet at times with a good cup o Tea tongue.gif

Agree-who said Pringles were the most addictive snack-there's definitely something about the Jaffa Cake.

BTW does ANYBODY not put it into the mouth in a 'wanner'?
mortonjag 2007-02-17 10:35:33
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Feb 17 2007, 10:34 AM) [snapback]233224[/snapback]
Talking about bikes, bought the son one at xmas and he still hasnt used the blimmin thing. Cost a bob or 2 also.

Guess it was a surprise gift! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-17 10:37:13
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Feb 17 2007, 10:35 AM) [snapback]233225[/snapback]
Its the only way to eat them, but not if you dip it in yer tea unsure.gif

No way would I ever dunk a Jaffa Cake-well, now I come to think about it... huh.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-17 10:39:53
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 17 2007, 10:28 AM) [snapback]233219[/snapback]
Spend more time in the box. IMO this team should win more penalties than it does.

Come back Jason-all is forgiven! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-17 10:41:49
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 17 2007, 10:30 AM) [snapback]233222[/snapback]
Strange for two second division players to win player and young player of the month... not happened for years if it has happened at all!

Martin Bavidge was player of the month.

Well done Gowzer! biggrin.gif

Well done Gowzer-I'd also love to be able to say you're a Morton player.
mortonjag 2007-02-17 10:42:53
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Feb 17 2007, 10:40 AM) [snapback]233232[/snapback]
Still one of the best films ever.

Preferred The Sound of Music TBH
mortonjag 2007-02-17 10:46:22
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Feb 17 2007, 10:37 AM) [snapback]233228[/snapback]
And what a day that was smile.gif

I missed that match, but my brother-a part time Ton supporter was boasting that he'd gone, and about how wonderful the finish had been.

It emerged later from one of his colleagues, that

a/ he had been working in Dumbarton that day

b/ he was leaving early when he heard the cheers for the equaliser, and rushed back in to see the end!
mortonjag 2007-02-17 10:48:33
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Feb 17 2007, 10:40 AM) [snapback]233231[/snapback]
laugh.gif
He does alot of cycling to different fishing competitions, then again its not the season yet. Still, cost me a fortune.

Ach well-you'll get your freezer stocked if he's any good.
mortonjag 2007-02-17 10:49:54
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Feb 17 2007, 10:38 AM) [snapback]233229[/snapback]
Ye canny beat it, warm orange cake, biscuit, smile.gif

Washed down with a mouthful of luke warm orange sludge! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-17 10:56:47 A human being is an intestine-that's what the soft centre's made of.
mortonjag 2007-02-17 11:03:02
QUOTE(Albundy @ Feb 17 2007, 10:56 AM) [snapback]233240[/snapback]
Aye Labour are doing a brilliant job in our area , look at all the jobs young people can pick from nowadays . perhaps moving our hospital piece by piece to Pishley isn't happening and we aren't becoming a commuting hub for Glasgow with all these shiny new houses. What gets me is people will still vote for these muppets

Absolutely-it will be EXTREMELY interesting to see what response that fat git receives if DDFR makes a public announcement-let's face it-the MAJORITY should be cheering and applauding-oh and asking somebody else to read them out their lucky ticket numbers.
mortonjag 2007-02-18 09:18:04
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Feb 17 2007, 02:02 PM) [snapback]233274[/snapback]
That's cos he's playing on the left. McAllistair should be given a chance on the right, its been a long time coming.

CC I said last week Jim's true potential would probably only be revealed when he moves clubs.

Of course I got shot down by the usual blinkered snipers, but as you suggest, the lad's effectively playing his football in a straightjacket at Scapa.
mortonjag 2007-02-18 09:26:25
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Feb 17 2007, 10:27 PM) [snapback]233471[/snapback]
hope to see quotes from the big ginger one in the papers this week about how he was mainly to blame for ayrs two goals today, pathetic badge kisser

THAT is the kind of post that should be getting ripped to shreds-negative and destructive.

Greacen will probably struggle at a higher level, but he's played many outstanding games for us, and IS an example to the younger players.

Pathetic anonymous poster.

By the way, just in case you were pissed out of your skull when you spouted your venom-the result yesterday was 4-2 for the TON.
mortonjag 2007-02-18 09:30:58 How do you like your goals? smile.gif

Look mate, I just want goals-fried, boiled, scrambled, or poached-just GOALS.

Astonished to see big Sanny racing ahead in the poll. For me Gowser really showed that wee bit of extra class yesterday, and was delightful to watch at times-and I'm a long term 'Sanny' fan BTW.
mortonjag 2007-02-18 09:40:51 Mathers was yet again MADE to look at fault yesterday by slack defending, but Ayr are very dangerous in the box, and nobody's fools.

I'm not prepared to criticise anybody after a satisfying victory and a Stirling defeat-we play Stranraer AWAY next week mellow.gif , but in division one, I'd love to see us with a big commanding traditional centre half who bosses the penalty box, and is supported by players who can link effectively, and maybe a traditional style 'sweeper'.
mortonjag 2007-02-18 09:47:33
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Feb 18 2007, 12:11 AM) [snapback]233503[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif

oooh, get her.

Whats wrong? The red house painters visiting today?

Mortonjag and Narky Arky form new right wing BNP splinter group

BAD NASTY PERSONS

Membership welcome to all who think the establishment sooks! cool.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-18 09:52:58
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Feb 17 2007, 07:26 PM) [snapback]233392[/snapback]
Before I get shot down in flames - I am a Greacen fan and no I am not one of the boo boys. Yes I am delighted at the score line and would personally buy the Stranraer players a pint but there are one or two things that worry me about our recent form.

There were times last week and especially today when big Stu couldn’t kick or head his own backside (that would be a good trick,) and I don’t know what’s causing it but he’s clearly not himself! Dare I say he needs rested with either Keenan as a straight replacement or Weatherson in the centre and Dean at right back? On form Greacen would always be in my team but it’s almost as if you can see the big mans confidence draining away in front of our eyes, in the old days you were given a spell in the reserves to sort yourself out – why not these days?

I’ve said before that I believe Jim McAllister has actually sacrificed his own development to play on the left for Morton when he clearly has no left foot hence the reason he cuts inside all the time – something a large number of motor mouths in the cowshed cant grasp but Jamie Stevenson on the other wing has no such excuse. Neither does he have the work rate of McAllister. To be fair Jamie put a good free kick for Temp’s second goal but apart from that was largely anonymous. Again, give the boy a rest and let Walker or Finlayson have a spell – surely that’s why we have a squad?

Like everyone else on here I want us to go up as quickly and efficiently as possible and will support whatever players pull on a Ton top but there is still room for improvement

Stop talking such obvious common sense LBH-no c*nt will listen to you.
mortonjag 2007-02-18 09:59:40 Yet again we come off a satisfactory victory, and the board 'specialists' start analysing and criticising individual players.

Yesterday some were off form, yet we still managed the victory.

What I want to know, is why we reverted to the 'wee boys lost' scenario for a lot of the game.

Credit to Ayr, they did try to play footbal, and despite being well ahead on ability, we seemed to have no sense of direction, or killer instinct for quite a bit of the game.

I'm pretty confident of promotion, and it's not too early to be thinking about how to sort a problem that's been with us ever since DDFR signed his first manager.
mortonjag 2007-02-18 10:15:39 Gowser was a class act for a good wee bit of the game. I gave him my vote despite being a big 'Sanny' fan.
mortonjag 2007-02-18 10:30:47 I don't like 'player ratings' but then I don't like much. mad.gif

I'd love to do some 'poster ratings' because some of your heads are so far up your wee arses, you're choking on your hair gel.

For me, Weatherson, McGregor, McGowan, Templeman, and Linn, given his short appearance, had good matches.

Davie will still struggle against a traditional right winger-he is NOT a left back, but yesterday looked calm and composed, and made few errors.

Spoonsy proved yet again what a great all rounder he is. He is NOT a right back.

The Mathers-Greacen-Harding debate rages on every time we play against a side who threaten through the middle. I do not think Stu and Ryan will ever really get used to playing together-neither is a bad player, and Ryan has still a long way to go before reaching his full potential.

How can we have such good midfielders, who are so often 'off the boil'-it seems ages since Stevenson and Millar were firing together on all cylinders.

Scotty IMO would make a tremendous 'sweeper'-always 100% and reads the defensive game so well. Unfortunately that's about it.

That leaves Jimbo-ach well son, some day a big team scout will come along and notice you can play a bit-oh aye-AND are right footed!
mortonjag 2007-02-18 10:36:28
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Feb 17 2007, 12:51 PM) [snapback]233267[/snapback]
Not usually one to lower the tone ................. but I once worked with a fairly attractive young lady with bright red/orange hair who was sometimes known as 'Jaffa cake' ............ something to do with the moist orange bit in the middle apparently . I already regret posting this

...as 'til now nobody has known the embarrassing secret of your penile discolouration??? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-18 10:45:23 For an SPL team doing reasonably well without setting the heather on fire, fanbase is the biggest factor.

We'd get 5000-6000 for home games and fill Scapa for the 'biggies'.

We had a bigger crowd yesterday than the rest of the division put together.

Incidentally, SPL pretenders, Gretna FC couldn't manage 1500, and ten of them were llamas.
mortonjag 2007-02-18 10:48:27
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Feb 18 2007, 10:45 AM) [snapback]233553[/snapback]
Don't think there was any need to mention that on here mad.gif

I apologise-it was extremely unprofessional-BTW was that bleach ointment any better than the sun lamp treatment? biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-18 11:03:41
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Feb 18 2007, 10:58 AM) [snapback]233560[/snapback]
Sensible post...don't think the SPL would understand it! As you say they should lower the prices and make a big deal of it and after a month or two of the scheme reflect on its viability. Obviously the OF could still charge what they like and still fill the stadium, but for clubs who want to take part eg Motherwell, Killie, Dunfermline, Aberdeen etc it might lift the atmosphere!

I'm a bit unsure about the rights and wrongs of it. Clubs do have to meet their overheads, and it's all to do with trying to balance the books, rather than 'ripping off' the fans.

When I see the money splashed out on almost everything and anything in this 'get it now and pay later' society, I DO NOT think the prices charged are exorbitant.
mortonjag 2007-02-18 11:07:49
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Feb 18 2007, 10:47 AM) [snapback]233555[/snapback]
It's just the last couple of weeks his timing has been a bit suspect and it was only once yesterday that it happened and unfortunately led to the second goal via a few more defensive errors from his team mates. Yesterday he went through the ball the way he has when he joined us and as I say only made one ill-judged jump. As for Greacen and Harding playing together, I have no fears. Best defensive record outwith Celtic or something like that shows that we have a solid back four.

Agreed, but playing behind the best midfield by far in the SECOND division, is hardly a benchmark.
mortonjag 2007-02-18 11:13:50
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Feb 18 2007, 10:40 AM) [snapback]233552[/snapback]
He made up for his error for the second goal by virtually scoring the 4th as he pointed out sheepishly to Harding after Linn flicked the ball in.

McGowan is right, that is the role of the captain, to defend the players he represents. I think with the pressure off a wee bit, some good defensive training this week will see Greacen, Harding and Mathers back to their high standards. Don't forget the positions they play carry the most pressure: one slip and they can cost a goal whereas at the other end if a forward missed a good opportunity the blame rarely gets placed at their door the way it would a defender.

There was quite a long spell last season when Stu was playing well below form, and at the time I wondered, and asked on this forum, if the pressure of Captaincy might be getting to him.

Several of our lads consistently fail to produce what we all know they are capable of.

This season Jamie is the most obvious-with Alloa he was an absolute standout-and I strongly believe those youngsters are affected by the relentless expectations placed on their shoulders.

JM's got a lot of things right, but before next season, we MUST sign a couple of experienced players in order to get the best from the tremendous potential at Scapa.
mortonjag 2007-02-18 11:16:39
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Feb 18 2007, 09:23 AM) [snapback]233534[/snapback]
I thought one of the main problems was with the editing, rather than the writing. There was lots of repetition between players and lots of stories left incomplete. Not worth the money, but the photos were good.

It depends what you want. They are NEVER literary gems-more of the 'Comic Strip' variety, in all honesty, but they're still good entertainment for a Ton fan.

I got mine in the Oak Mall, as suggested, and didn't grudge the price at all.
mortonjag 2007-02-18 11:20:33
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 18 2007, 12:28 AM) [snapback]233509[/snapback]
well, i have more pressing concerns than hoping the biggest retailler in the land doesnt rip me off dry.gif . sorry wee bools but they are rip off c***s. i worked for them for many a night too.

Supermarket retailing is as cut throat as it gets, and at the moment Tesco are unchallenged pirate kings of Great Britain.
mortonjag 2007-02-18 11:27:32 Is there some confusion about this? rolleyes.gif

GMFC make a significant annual loss, and are currently in debt almost to the tune of one million pounds.

The Golden Casket Group is a profitable confectionery business, also, but separately owned by DDFR.

Forgetting probabilities for a moment, DDFR can walk away from the Ton tomorrow, and we'll be left VERY skint for a division 2 club.
mortonjag 2007-02-18 11:44:01
QUOTE(Torro @ Feb 18 2007, 11:34 AM) [snapback]233569[/snapback]
"The Golden Casket Group is a profitable confectionery business, also, but separately owned by DDFR"

Morton are not separately owned , but part of - there is a difference , certain tax advantages etc in offsetting losses in one PART of the company against profits in another .

What are we talking about here-balance sheets for taxation purposes, or reality?

GMFC OWE nearly one million quid.

Golden Casket are OWED the money.

If DDFR wants he can easily separate the two entities with some simple paperwork, and we'll be left stranded financially.
mortonjag 2007-02-18 11:54:33
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Feb 18 2007, 11:44 AM) [snapback]233572[/snapback]
I think your right regarding the expectation. My dad and I were joking about how down-trodden Jamie always looks and like he's carrying the weight of the world on his shoulders, but there is some truth in that given the expectation of the club. Hopefully we wrap up the title with 5 or 6 games to go and the pressure is taken off a little and the players get back to enjoying their football which will undoubtedly bring the best back out in the likes of Millar, Stevenson and McAlister who have perhaps been a bit more cautious of late. An experienced head in the middle of the park (dare I say McInnes who impressed me along with Mensing against Hibs) would hopefully get a little more out of our squad with bags of potential. The problem with potential though is that you have to fulfil it to make it worthwhile having!

Yes, and it's a shame that those young players have in many ways been left to get on with it on the park.

JM's been pretty honest about things, but it took him a long time to admit recently that we lack experience-he only really stated it prior to Mathers' signing.

Another factor-totally separate from JM-is that so many posters on the forum turn up their noses at what they call 'over the hill' players.

FFS-get a bloody life-you'd think we were playing in Serie A to hear them-I've said it before, we could at LEAST be in Division 1 by now, if we'd used what to me just seems common sense.
mortonjag 2007-02-18 12:04:39
QUOTE(Haroldluck @ Feb 18 2007, 11:48 AM) [snapback]233573[/snapback]
I think the bottom line with these books is the author's misguided opinion. The two Dereks are NOT GMFC greats for a start. Compare their likes to say Jim Rooney, Bobby Houston, Jimmy Miller etc etc. Their contribuitions to the history of the team have been far more valued than players whose reputations were formed in the local and tabloid press rather than on the "Field of Dreams".

thanks

HGF

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I agree that the book has been written by a man in his forties for the average fan who's probably 35, and as such concentrates too much on 'living memory' to represent true 'Morton Greats'.

I'm now in my sixties, and in my lifetime, I'd have picked McGraw, Holmes, and probably Erik Sorensen as 'Greats'.

In the last twenty five years, very few players have been so influential or inspirational for the club.

My Dad, who died a year ago, could remember players like Cowan, Steele, Gourlay and so on, but let's face it, the books are about passion for the Ton, and we shouldn't be too worried about our individual and equally valid opinions.
mortonjag 2007-02-18 12:12:49
QUOTE(Torro @ Feb 18 2007, 11:58 AM) [snapback]233576[/snapback]
so they part of the same company at the moment then ? , bawbag rolleyes.gif

I stated that GMFC and The Golden Casket Group are separate companies-GMFC is a Limited Company in it's own right-scrotum.

The fact that for football accounting purposes GMFC is treated along with it's 'parent' company as one entity does not make it part of that company in law.

Do you require further explanation?
mortonjag 2007-02-18 12:23:54
QUOTE(Torro @ Feb 18 2007, 12:15 PM) [snapback]233581[/snapback]
So if golden casket was bought outright the new owners wouldnt own morton then , bawbag ? huh.gif

Listen you scruffy little scotum scratcher-don't try arguing with your betters.

Today's lesson's about the 'Golden Casket GROUP'

Now, if you're sitting comfortably, I'll begin--A 'GROUP' means MORE THAN ONE-now if you can understand that, we can move on-it's a group of---- 'erm-Companies?'--ah you're getting the gist-good boy-so it's ONE group--and-- 'erm MORE than one company'?

Exactly my lad-you get there eventually.

I was tempted to edit my initial post, but thought it was obvious that I lumped Buchanan's Millions and so on together.

GMFC is the odd man out.
mortonjag 2007-02-18 13:43:38
QUOTE(Torro @ Feb 18 2007, 12:40 PM) [snapback]233584[/snapback]
why is it the odd one out ? , is it not just another company which is owned by the golden casket holding company

and can u answer my question above bawbag ...!?

Now you are being a naughty boy.

You agree GMFC is a separate limited company, responsible for it's own debts-that was the original point, and the point which most posters wanted clarified. The fact that it is part of a group would indeed be relevant to anyone considering purchase of that GROUP.

Only an avid Ton fan, or someone deranged would consider it's purchase as a whole, incorporating, as it does, a debt of almost one million pounds with no guarantee of repayment-your question does not need an answer. Stating the obvious is superflous.
mortonjag 2007-02-18 13:47:49
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 18 2007, 01:12 PM) [snapback]233585[/snapback]
Happy with the result yesterday but this is really starting to get on my tits now.

Why will McInally not play him through the middle where he scored 18 goals for Alloa last season, especially when Chris Millar would be ideal in a straight positional swap?

I still feel Jamie's our most gifted player by some margin but he's not allowed to express himself when stuck out on the right wing. It's no coincidence the goals have dried up since the switch.

I also noticed yesterday that his delivery's from out wide continued to lack in quality, culminating in a fantastic ball in for Templeman's second.

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You are treading on very dangerous ground when you start questioning JM's wisdom LargsTon-don't forget, he's the manager, so he MUST know best !!! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-18 19:42:24 Control panel

Sounds speech and audio devices

Speaker volume

Should fix it!
mortonjag 2007-02-18 20:04:07
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Feb 18 2007, 05:17 PM) [snapback]233647[/snapback]
1. i do not hide behind a keyboard, anyone who knows me knows me as big doc

2. i do not drink, so out goes being pissed

3. spouting venom ? a bit over dramatic there i think

4. was it only me who thought he had a poor game and played his part in both ayrs goals ?

5. he decieded to give the press the quotes from last weeks mole hill and make it into a mountain

6. never seen him kissing his badge when we failed to get promotion the past few seasons

1/ Are you known to the majority on this forum-those who are willing to discuss things Morton?

2/ I apologise if I offended-your post simply seemed well OTT, and reminiscent of many which have later been retracted by sober penitents.

3/ 'The big ginger one', and 'pathetic badge kisser', are I agree in no way emotive or dramatic descriptions of our club captain. rolleyes.gif

4/ Whether or not he played a part in every goal we lost all season, and last, and the one before, has got f*ck all to do with this issue, which is about standing up for his team mates.

5/ You may regard last week's incident as a 'mole hill', and I agree it has probably been blown out of proportion, but that was simply selective use of Greacen's comments by the press.

6/ And finally-that last 'throw away' comment says more about you and your opinion of Stu, than all the others put together.
mortonjag 2007-02-18 20:10:33 We are relatively oversupplied with decent midfielders, and it's a shame for guys like Alex, Kev, and Deano.

Every club has its favourites, and ultimately it's not for the fans to decide the rights and wrongs of internal politics to which they are not privy.

I reckon that unless DDFR's looking at a much higher wage bill next year (assuming promotion), we're in for quite a big squad rationalisation in the summer, with several 'fringe players' going elsewhere.
mortonjag 2007-02-18 20:19:54
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 18 2007, 05:54 PM) [snapback]233666[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Feb 17 2007, 06:45 PM) [snapback]233555[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Harding 7 - should be captain - End of

End of ? I don't think you would find 1 person who would agree with you.
No it isn't. I've been pointing out Greacen's lack of timing on the air for the last couple of seasons. He does it continuously.

Did you see some of the defending yesterday ? They only have one of the best defensive records because they play in the Second Division against very poor sides.

edit to add ratings :

Mathers 6
Weatherson 7
MacGregor 8
Harding 6
Greacen 5
McLaughlin 6
Millar 6
Stevenson 7
Templeman 9
McGowan 7
McAlister 7

I agree with just about everything you've said except that McGregor will never compete against a tricky/speedy right winger.

One of the reasons he shows up well is that Jimbo is constantly back covering for him, but ultimately he's a yard slow, AND right footed.

Having said that, WHEN David has time on the ball, he can be very composed, with good distribution, and on the odd occasion when he's been allowed to wander upfield, he shows flashes of unexpected vision and creativity.
mortonjag 2007-02-18 20:24:21 Let's just keep our focus on winning this division.
mortonjag 2007-02-18 20:32:10 A couple of points.

Bryan has indicated that we'd need 75 quid to replace each lost ball.

Over the course of a full season, and including friendlies, reserve matches and cup games, losing just two balls ( rolleyes.gif ) every game could amount to over a thousand pounds.

Insurance companies don't keep shelling out if you keep claiming, that's a no go area for match footballs.

Finally, the'Specky' one, is Andy Bryan, our kit manager, who recently turned down the equivalent Scotland Squad post, just so that he could play with the trains!
mortonjag 2007-02-18 20:37:24 The best laid schemes o' mice and men gang aft agley.

mortonjag 2007-02-18 20:45:44 We've all got our favourites and are suggesting different players and permutations, but there seems to be a genuine perception that something's just not right.

It's funny how the truth takes so long to dawn, but I don't think there's much point in labouring that.

JM is still a VERY inexperienced manager, whose team selections and tactics IMO occasionally verge on the bizarre.
mortonjag 2007-02-18 20:50:08
QUOTE(lush @ Feb 18 2007, 08:08 PM) [snapback]233744[/snapback]
Craig Bellend is a pie.

lush-don't be shy-you MAY well be female, but if you mean c*nt, just say it.

Pies are awful nice, even if they're bad for you.
mortonjag 2007-02-18 21:08:47
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 18 2007, 09:02 PM) [snapback]233765[/snapback]
I'm so focused on winning the league as far as I concerned it's already in the bag and has been since we beat Albion 2-1 a few weeks ago. laugh.gif

Ach, you're probably right midTONs-in fact we're really SO f*ckin' good, I think they should just stop the season right now instead of prolonging the agony for those sad disillusioned bastards who think they've a snowball's chance in hell of overtaking us! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-18 21:15:02
QUOTE(Deego @ Feb 18 2007, 08:59 PM) [snapback]233763[/snapback]
What the f*** has that got to do with anything? blink.gif

Are you trying to wind her up?

Pedro's often misunderstood because of dyslexia, and highlighting that's got a helluva lot to do with people not trying to take the piss.

If that's all you were trying to say in a roundabout way, fair enough.
mortonjag 2007-02-18 21:18:25
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Feb 18 2007, 09:15 PM) [snapback]233774[/snapback]
I did read that too! He has a screw loose! Cant see him playing for them again!

I don't think it's so much a loose screw as the wheels coming off the wagon-and he's so f*cking thick he's unlikely to make his name at anything else-but then there's always reality TV!! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-18 21:24:30
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Feb 18 2007, 09:19 PM) [snapback]233777[/snapback]
The cost of the balls have nothing to do with it. The Chairman in his attempt to make Morton a friendly family ethical club does not want us to lose footballs and as a result some poor kid in a sweatshop somewhere has to stich footballs for 2p than having a proper education. That said I am not suggesting that the ball makers make footballs this way...

So DDFR's doesn't really care if he loses his balls-he only wants to hang on to them for the sake of poor kids in a sweatshop

Candy balls and Fort Matilda spring to mind!

Sycophants keep off-only takin' the piss!
mortonjag 2007-02-18 21:26:38
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 18 2007, 09:22 PM) [snapback]233780[/snapback]
Stirling will drop more pts next week and Morton will steam roll right over the top of Stranraer, it's getting a tad embarrassing now. tongue.gif

I heard Stranraer are already trying to get the game postponed, and are seeking the services of a Mr Canute.
mortonjag 2007-02-19 06:03:17
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Feb 18 2007, 10:52 PM) [snapback]233802[/snapback]
Sounds good, although i will be in Mijas and Marbella in July. Chicago is on the ball though i may add wink.gif

f***in' yankee tattooists again ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-19 06:08:05
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Feb 18 2007, 10:54 PM) [snapback]233803[/snapback]
Aye, but it depends on what kind of pie, i mean, if its the xmas mince pies, is it a pie or a cake rolleyes.gif

....and WHY do they call them mincemeat pies when there's no minced meat in them-anyway they are definitely not pies, OR cakes.

I'm not really into tarts those days, but maybe somebody throw some light on this ponderous dilemma.
mortonjag 2007-02-19 06:10:06
QUOTE(carlito @ Feb 18 2007, 11:28 PM) [snapback]233808[/snapback]
Actually, Jaffa Cakes are apricot flavoured... wink.gif

Where's your tongue been recently? blink.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-19 06:16:20
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 19 2007, 03:23 AM) [snapback]233819[/snapback]
laugh.gif that had me laughing out loud , especially the bit on bold.

Me too, but I was puzzled by the Zimmer bit as they come in the wheeled and non-
wheeled variety-so was he holding the bike sideways and placing it in front with each step, or had it lost a wheel in the crash, and it was lift, wheel, stop,...lift, wheel, stop etc?
mortonjag 2007-02-19 06:21:47
QUOTE(Capuan @ Feb 18 2007, 07:40 PM) [snapback]233730[/snapback]
Remember what happened last time we won the 2nd division! biggrin.gif

I rekon we could be in for another good season next year. might be worth sticking a few shekels on Morton to finish top.

Stick with Wm. Hill-those Jewish bookies odds are terrible at the best of times.
mortonjag 2007-02-19 06:32:55 Quite honestly I don't give a flying f*ck about any other club except the Ton, so if changes are made which will benefit us to the detriment of others I'm all for them.

I fully expect the usual backlash from eejits who claim to care about the East Stirlings and Forfars of this world, and the totally inaccurate statement that we too have been down there (that was ONLY because of Scott), but our life in the lower divisions has been put in stark contrast by the Killie and Motherwell matches.

We always had, and have again demonstrated the potential to be a profitable SPL side, and the sooner the better.
mortonjag 2007-02-19 06:41:10
QUOTE(piehutt @ Feb 18 2007, 10:23 PM) [snapback]233795[/snapback]
Sorry mate are you saying that the club would claim an insurance policy (or even have one) to cover footballs being booted out of the ground?

Have you ever dealt with an insurance company before, the notion that an insurance company would entertain such a claim is just fantastic.

'please send us a picture of the ball being used'
'please send us a video of the ball being lost'
'now send us evidence of said ball not being able to be recovered'

'Ok, thanks, now pay the 400pound excess on your policy and we'll send you a new football' 'Oh, and by the way, your premiums will double next year due to this claim'

You are SO right piehutt-I've been worrying about my balls for a while.

Given my age, I thought I might get a good quotation from Saga-FFS they even advertise 'new for old' in their glossy brochure, but some of the questions they ask put me right off.

I mean asking for an estimate of usage per annum's just going a bit too far.
mortonjag 2007-02-19 06:46:51
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Feb 18 2007, 10:41 PM) [snapback]233799[/snapback]
No doubt you're hoping they do - another excuse for a good moan.

I don't need excuses for a good moan scabby scrote-it comes quite naturally.

No point in being jolly when you can be miserable and pull everybody else down along with you.

Blessed is he who expecteth nothing, for he shall not be disappointed.

Have a nice day-I DEFINITELY won't. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-19 06:49:34
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Feb 18 2007, 10:56 PM) [snapback]233804[/snapback]
I'd rather have Finlayson on the right instead of Russell. I thought Ryan was a left sided midfielder anyway? Any time he has come on he has played on the left. unsure.gif

Maybe the Moderator was looking at the team from behind..there again maybe he was pissed!
mortonjag 2007-02-19 06:52:34
QUOTE(LeadTheWay @ Feb 18 2007, 11:02 PM) [snapback]233805[/snapback]
Has anyone else recently noticed the dip in Stews performance? I know its unfair to blame one person for conceding goals but most of the silly goals we let in are due to him not turning quick enough or being able to clear the ball.
sad.gif

The same thing happened somewhere around this time last year-he was pretty awful for several matches on the trot, and looked as though he was carrying the world on his shoulders, but he got it back together before the end of the season.
mortonjag 2007-02-19 06:59:17
QUOTE(shullnotton @ Feb 19 2007, 01:35 AM) [snapback]233814[/snapback]
37 out of the 42 senior clubs should be Part Time with R*ngers, C*ltic, Aberdeen, Hibs and Hearts being the exceptions as they can sustain full time salaries ( as long as they're not excessive.) with their average crowds being over 10000.

I would have the Gate Prices slashed to £5 for Adults and £1 for Concessions.

Sorted.

Don't be ridiculous-why do you folk always come up with half-baked ideas?

Rangers and Celtic should remain as they are.

Aberdeen, Hibs and Hearts, should go part time, and reduce admission prices to 75p for adults with all others free.

The rest should go amateur and be forced to play on village parks with free views for all, and compensation for Queens Park.

Oh and Gretna should stick to hosting the annual local cattle show.
mortonjag 2007-02-19 08:38:14
QUOTE(WullTon @ Feb 19 2007, 08:08 AM) [snapback]233838[/snapback]
How do i go about doing that ?

if you've got a laptop with inbuilt speakers and are running windows, use the control panel as I suggested. Because you've been messing about the volume's probably set at zero at the moment.
mortonjag 2007-02-19 08:45:38
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 19 2007, 08:07 AM) [snapback]233837[/snapback]
strangley enough i was watching an eddie izzard programme called mongrel nation on one of the documentry channels a couple of weeks ago & this mince pie "query" was answered.

apparently the romans introduced them over here and they were filled with minced meat in those days, and probably WERE pies back then, but some smart arse along the way decided to make them sweet things.
Oh, & the romans also introduced the sunday roast dinner apparently !! unsure.gif
& if all that is wrong blame eddie izzard, not me. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

The Romans have indeed a lot to answer for-they even named a Scottish SPL side, and I shall award a really scathing comment to the first person with the correct answer.

For the avoidance of confusion, Gretna IS on our side of Hadrian's wall, but they have not yet been promoted.
mortonjag 2007-02-19 09:05:03
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 19 2007, 08:58 AM) [snapback]233845[/snapback]
When I look in the mirror, I'm too captivated by my good looks to write anything at all.

You found that Ikea branch NewTon was looking for? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-19 09:14:58
QUOTE(dj-ton @ Feb 19 2007, 09:01 AM) [snapback]233846[/snapback]
im not millars boyfriend before the jokes start.. lol.. i just dont think he should be dropped.. he plays well on the right cause he likes it better.. jamie should defo play off the front 2 or in the middle with scott.. i just dont think kev can last a full game.... the only game he played "ok" in when he has started was motherwell.. remember him and jim started upfront away to gretna last year because kev came on as a sub a few times and looked ok ..(disaster). the game were scotty scored a cracker.... jamies first game for the club jm said to him while givin out the tactics .. jamie you do what you want play any were!!! (were has this attitude gone) ...... whole ponit is

jim- scott-jamie-millar

or

jim-- scott -- millar

jamie
CUE abuse lol

anyone agree??

Millar's form has been poor of late-I would not leave him out-he's too good for that, but a spell on the bench would perhaps do more good than harm for all concerned.

To say that Kev can't last a game is just a joke-admit it-he's one of the most tireless and energetic players we've got. He's totally wasted wide right-that's been proven countless times. If he can't get a game in midfield, all that's left would be right back or sweeper IMO.

If JM genuinely tells Jamie to 'go on and do what he wants', I'd love to know what's happened. That was EXACTLY what he did for Alloa, and he was in a class of his own there.

I find Scott a very boring player TBH-full credit-his workrate is fantastic, and as a defensive midfielder he's our best, but he'll have to work very hard on the rest of his game if he ever wants to be the full package.

Finally, if I were Jimbo, I'd be asking for a transfer-he's just stagnating out on that left wing.
mortonjag 2007-02-19 09:21:47
QUOTE(Cawston @ Feb 19 2007, 09:08 AM) [snapback]233848[/snapback]
The 10 team leagues were brought in due to the huge number of meaningless games that 16 team leagues produced.
Agree they've run their course but to be honest I can't see any benefits from an increase in teams.

The top two would still be going for the title, Hearts or Aberdeen would make the occasional challenge for second spot and the promoted clubs would still fight out the relegation issues.

Why would crowds increase for all the clubs in the middle?

As for prices, I agree it's way to expensive but I can understand why. Crowds have been consistant for the past 25 years, there's no risk in hitting your 2500 regulars with overpriced tickets. The big What If only occurs when you gamble on reduced ticket prices bringing fans in.

The highest profile attempt at the 'increased punters means selling more pies' theory was at Motherwell and it totally flopped.

The club works harder for the same returns, then the Johnny come latelys head off back to the shops and golf courses once they realise the football's sh!t. End result is the club is in a hole.

History shows the only thing that brings more punters in is successful, entertaining football. If you get the football right the ticket prices don't matter.

Spot on-any team with a half decent fan base, topping its league, AND playing attractive football will always attract good crowds at the going rate.
mortonjag 2007-02-19 10:13:01
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Feb 19 2007, 10:07 AM) [snapback]233858[/snapback]
"All hell was let loose and John suffered a lot of bruising. Craig was out of control and shouting that John had belittled him in front of the lads."

laugh.gif oh the irony

....had belittled him in front of the lads.... though his actual comment was reported as 'arrrrrgh-I'll Taffy Dwarf you, you scummy scanny c*nt'...walllopp.
mortonjag 2007-02-19 10:20:28
QUOTE(Mags @ Feb 19 2007, 10:16 AM) [snapback]233861[/snapback]
Found this really funny....you have to watch it right to the end.
http://www.brillyunt.com/play.php?file_ID=000002040
Mags.

biggrin.gif

Steve Aitken's love child exposed at last!
mortonjag 2007-02-19 10:23:51
QUOTE(lush @ Feb 19 2007, 09:54 AM) [snapback]233857[/snapback]
Thats a luxury biscuit, for special occasions. wink.gif

It is a luxury chocolate biscuit-a luxury biscuit, lovingly enrobed in luxury chocolate in a luxurious chocolate biscuit factory.
mortonjag 2007-02-19 10:25:02
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 19 2007, 10:22 AM) [snapback]233864[/snapback]
Just a normal 82 and quite happy with that.

70 ya old lecher.
mortonjag 2007-02-19 10:30:12
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 19 2007, 09:18 AM) [snapback]233851[/snapback]
I would play

Russell Stevenson McAlistair

McLaughlin/Walker/Weatherson/McGregor as holding midfielder, all are capable of playing there.

No harm in trying something like that as and when the pressure's off.

Meantime-Gowser, Sanny, Linn ?????
mortonjag 2007-02-19 10:34:13
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 19 2007, 10:18 AM) [snapback]233862[/snapback]
These are supposed to be professional footballers. What are they doing out on the bevvy before a vital game?

Bellamy is just a wee ned, an Alex Williams but slightly more successful. If Liverpool don't sack him, I reckon he'll break a leg in a training "accident".

SLIGHTLY more successful? rolleyes.gif

It's kinda hard to explain both legs broken in that training accident-but always expect the unexpected!
mortonjag 2007-02-19 10:55:11
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Feb 19 2007, 10:33 AM) [snapback]233874[/snapback]
rolleyes.gif It was defo Jimbo.....Had the best seat in the hoose to see it... rolleyes.gif cool.gif

Was it definitely going in before he made contact ?
mortonjag 2007-02-19 11:07:51
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 19 2007, 10:56 AM) [snapback]233878[/snapback]
Wouldn't be the Columba your in mate would it ? I went there and many moons ago when the Ton were top of the Premier our English teacher a first class tatty muncher was going to belt all the Ton supporters in the class for giving it laldy because we had overtook Celtic in the league .
He gave the decision to Owen Archdeacon who was on a Celtic S form at the time . Needless to see he gave us a reprieve ...... must have known he'd have ended up at Cappielow eventually .

Genuine question chrissiboi-what was the ratio of Ton to Cellic fans in the school at that time-just roughly?
mortonjag 2007-02-19 11:11:16
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Feb 19 2007, 11:09 AM) [snapback]233884[/snapback]
Almost definitely....would have been in off the post had it continued...but Jimbo rifled it ......

We were at the far end of the stand, but just going on Jimbo's body language I was certain he'd 'finished it off'. Ta.
mortonjag 2007-02-19 11:37:18
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Feb 19 2007, 11:15 AM) [snapback]233887[/snapback]
Well if you've been earning £60,000 a week for almost a year now plus whatever he made at Celtic and Newcastle I doubt he really gives a f*** if he's brain of britain or not.

Somebody with his 'brain' could probably go through that in a couple of years-it's been done before!
mortonjag 2007-02-19 11:44:16
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Feb 19 2007, 11:18 AM) [snapback]233888[/snapback]
Hibernians = Roman name for Ireland.

You are spared the scathing comment by the higgorance of the blogmeister-more to follow.

Hibernus-Latin for 'wintry', hence Hibernia = Ireland, the 'wintry place' the Romans were always cold there apparently-obviously drinking the wrong brew!
mortonjag 2007-02-19 11:50:39
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 19 2007, 11:34 AM) [snapback]233890[/snapback]
It could be Celtic, too (Celta.)

The original Celts (from Celta) were from France, and the name was later applied to people who spoke similar languages to the early Gauls, long after the Romans quit Hibernia.

Mind you 'celtes' is the Latin word for a chisel shaped axe-so maybe they foresaw OF violence all those years ago!
mortonjag 2007-02-19 12:00:00
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Feb 19 2007, 11:30 AM) [snapback]233889[/snapback]
Nuff said in my opinion!

wink.gif ScotinBelgie

'We've' includes myself Scotty boy-it was a simple statement of fact you garcon mechant. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-19 12:01:43
QUOTE(Pat SharpTon @ Feb 19 2007, 11:47 AM) [snapback]233895[/snapback]
I fear Alex might not get a start again.

Shades of John Adam last year.
mortonjag 2007-02-19 12:11:37
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Feb 19 2007, 12:05 PM) [snapback]233900[/snapback]
'Took his goal well'... from my angle (and according to Paul McGowan's comments in the press) the ball was going in anyway, McAllister shot into an empty net from about a yard out, would have been quite an achievement to miss from where he was.

Thought McAllister was poor... almost every time we go on a break he runs back towards his own half (looking for a short ball obviously) instead of trying to stretch the game and get in behind the full back, he's been doing the same thing for the last two seasons... it's bizarre.

He's the most frustrating player in the Morton team... it's unusual to hear so many people in the Cowshed shouting for a player to push forward. I would really love to hear McInally's view on this i.e. is McAllister encouraged to drop back in these circumstances or does McInally even realise that he does it? (surely he must!?)

He took his goal well-when he started his run he'd no idea what was about to happen, and unlike so many of our forwards this season, he was in the right place at the right time-THAT'S what was good-I wouldn't have cared if he'd farted it in-it was GOOD.

Almost every time we go on the break he does the only thing he can when stuck out on the left-he's NEVER going to get behind the full back like a proper left winger-and YES it's immensely frustrating to watch.
mortonjag 2007-02-19 12:21:05 Eastenders 22 today

Emergency Ward 10- the first true soap - 50 today

Kellogs cornflakes 101 today and still going strong-invented as a nutritional supplement for patients with mental illness.

Plus ca change-porridge is a damned sight cheaper and better for you.
mortonjag 2007-02-19 12:23:56
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 19 2007, 12:16 PM) [snapback]233903[/snapback]
If you restored your PC back to original settings, you will also need to re-install the sound driver, most likely the sound card will be built into your motherboard, so just find the disc that came with your PC, or go online.

If the driver's out should the 'found new hardware' wizard not appear and offer to reinstall the drivers from the back up files?
mortonjag 2007-02-19 12:33:02
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 19 2007, 12:21 PM) [snapback]233906[/snapback]
Mathers 6
Weatherson 7
McGregor 8
Harding 6
Greacen 5
McLaughlin 6
Millar 4, i really don't know how chris is still in the starting XI
Stevenson 6
Templeman 9
McGowan 9, my MOM
McAlistair 6

Finlayson 6
Linn 7

as for mcalistair's goal, if i was mcgowan i'd be raging - he toed it into the net when it was just crossing the line.

You're always f*cking raging about something you twat-McALISTER-who probably likes his name spelled correctly-followed up play as ALL professionals are taught to do.

It's so bloody easy to be wise after the fact-he was in the right place, at the right time, and did the right thing-END OF. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-19 12:46:39
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 19 2007, 12:42 PM) [snapback]233913[/snapback]
Sorry, but couldn't leave that to get edited! So, you think someone's going to steal your posts? laugh.gif

That's patently daft ThornTON!
mortonjag 2007-02-19 12:48:16
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 19 2007, 12:41 PM) [snapback]233912[/snapback]
But look where John Adam is now.

Indeed-I merely highlighted the similar pattern.
mortonjag 2007-02-19 12:54:18
QUOTE(Edinton @ Feb 19 2007, 12:46 PM) [snapback]233919[/snapback]
Well you would think so wouldn't you? rolleyes.gif

Aye, I think it's your soundcard driver, check your hardware settings and see if the sound driver is installed and working properly, and then if not go and download/install them!

Aren't we all brilliant diagnosticians! cool.gif

Maybe if the Good 'Wull' will give us some feedback we'll get a better idea-maybe he's metamorphosed to Corn Beef! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-19 12:58:20
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 19 2007, 12:42 PM) [snapback]233914[/snapback]
But the word derives from Celta... which was my point.

Your point was noted but the Hibernians got there first I'm afraid, unlike this and many other seasons.

BMFC is the winner, and his prize is being processed as we speak!
mortonjag 2007-02-19 13:53:43
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 19 2007, 01:19 PM) [snapback]233929[/snapback]
http://virtualunderworld.net/arianeb/dategame.htm#

She keeps getting pished and falling asleep on me huh.gif

Bored alcoholic by the sound of it, or do you have the same effect on them all? dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-19 13:56:14
QUOTE(lush @ Feb 19 2007, 01:52 PM) [snapback]233937[/snapback]
Is that the only way you can get a woman, make sure she is dead first. rolleyes.gif

Who mentioned women?
mortonjag 2007-02-19 14:00:44
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 19 2007, 01:58 PM) [snapback]233943[/snapback]
I can't.

But only cos I'm using Mozilla and aint opening internet explorer

Firefoxake puggs!
mortonjag 2007-02-19 14:03:45
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 19 2007, 01:59 PM) [snapback]233945[/snapback]
Exactly, remember I worked in the Scottish Borders for 3 years where there’s more sheep than people.

Sometimes I even had a Little Lamb or two.

I know they say Paedo’s are animals but does that make me an Animal Paedo laugh.gif

You are what you are Willow, and provided they were genuine cheviots, I don't think you'll need tested for BSE.

My friend's white mouse has been looking for some company-apparently her hole's been empty for months.
mortonjag 2007-02-19 14:06:19
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 19 2007, 02:05 PM) [snapback]233948[/snapback]
You’ve taken that too far !!!!
I’ll leave the mouse for the pussy laugh.gif

It's not by any chance a ginger one?
mortonjag 2007-02-19 14:17:21
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Feb 19 2007, 01:58 PM) [snapback]233942[/snapback]
My statement was directed exactly at that point. Given the multitude of favourite players and permutations it is not clear who to play where and when. However when it comes to choosing between someone who sees the players once a week from the sidelines over the man who works with them on a daily basis, it is fairly obvious which choice makes the most sense. Of couse being to close to the situation does mean that you can miss the bigger picture sometimes, but when working with limited resources you have to do the best with what you have. You yourself hit the same nail on the head!
As to your anger, in fairness given my prelidiction to playing devil's advocate it is understandable you envisage me as a méchant garçon!

biggrin.gif ScotinBelgie

You're a right smart lad with that Belgian keyboard and its acutes and cedillas.

I take it you meant 'prelidiction' as you have a predilection for acting devil's advocate! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-19 14:22:53
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 19 2007, 02:11 PM) [snapback]233950[/snapback]
Do you masterbate?

I can truthfully say I have never mastErbated in my life.

Pity some wankers can't spell.
mortonjag 2007-02-19 14:29:53
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 19 2007, 02:26 PM) [snapback]233954[/snapback]
Just as I thought! unsure.gif

Just as you thought what?---'mastUrbate' is commonly spelled 'wank'-99% of the male population do it and the other 1% are liars.
mortonjag 2007-02-19 14:32:08
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 19 2007, 02:17 PM) [snapback]233951[/snapback]
I must have been in the remedial English class at school. We were never given the pleasure of reading “ The Catcher In The Rye” or “Of Mice And Men”. However, I recently decided to read J.D. Salinger’s “The Catcher In The Rye”.

God knows what possessed people to think this was a work, worthy of being part of the school curriculum. In my view, a book possibly about losing innocence or something a long those lines. But as dry as an octogenarians £anny flaps. I can only thank my lucky stars that I did not have to dissect that during school. Was it because it mentions Robert Burns?

Any other books that are vastly overrated and which in your opinion should be avoided?

Holy Bible-King James version.
mortonjag 2007-02-19 19:36:40
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 19 2007, 03:27 PM) [snapback]233975[/snapback]
I used to be a necrophiliac till some rotten c*** split on me.

TonInDublin

ps I know, I know, I'll get my jaikit.

Well at least it was a rotten c*** unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-19 19:43:37
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 19 2007, 06:58 PM) [snapback]234022[/snapback]
was only two & a half hours actually. smile.gif
four & a half now though, maybe he is having problems. laugh.gif rolleyes.gif

There.... that's MUCH better smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-19 19:51:11 I haven't the patience to read books TBH

I can honestly say that since I was a student, I have NEVER read a single fictional book from cover to cover.

I've tried two or three times, and rarely got past the first couple of chapters of anything.

I've done a lot of reading involving non-fiction mind you, and after every game at Scapa, I read the match programme from cover to cover (though I pretty well know the Buchanan's toffe ad off by heart now).
mortonjag 2007-02-19 19:57:18
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 19 2007, 04:41 PM) [snapback]233986[/snapback]
Doesn't need to Pedro. You mean youv'e never jacked yir caunel.

Maybe prefers it to go out under a bushel Weegie.
mortonjag 2007-02-19 19:59:20
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Feb 19 2007, 02:40 PM) [snapback]233962[/snapback]
Finally downloaded the spell checking software - and will try to remember it from now on!!!!

rolleyes.gif ScotinBelgie

Cheetah!
mortonjag 2007-02-19 20:03:04
QUOTE(Doddie @ Feb 19 2007, 05:16 PM) [snapback]234000[/snapback]
I think the majority think Millar and Stevenson should be swapped around, Stevenson should be running through the middle playing balls through for our attackers not stuck out on the wing. This is the key who more or less single handedly saved alloa last season from the middle of the park.

I couldn't agree more-it's a mystery. Somebody else has suggested that JM's told him to go on an 'do what he wants', but I just can't see it.
mortonjag 2007-02-19 20:07:16
QUOTE(C B @ Feb 19 2007, 05:25 PM) [snapback]234005[/snapback]
Does nobody remember Jim McInally saying at the beginning of last season how he thought he was getting a good player in Alex Walker but was very pleased because he was actually better than he had thought !!?!

Makes no sense why he sticks with his first choices week in week out.

In terms of pure football, Walker's light years ahead of Mclaughlin-just to give one comparison. He started well with us, then his form slipped and his confidence seemed to go with it. He's never really been given a chance in his best position since. I guess this kind of thing happens at all football clubs, and hopefully Alex will pick up his career elsewhere next season.
mortonjag 2007-02-19 20:13:31
QUOTE(C B @ Feb 19 2007, 06:05 PM) [snapback]234011[/snapback]
I'm not going to start a petition, i just think looking at our current squad the guy who is most "Captain material" is Ryan Harding. It certainly isnt Greacen, who is too quiet to be a captain (apart from the odd hand clap) and not capable of organising his players.

You name me someone better then??? and don't say Mathers or i will know you are having a laugh !!!

Are you taking the piss?

I've met Ryan and he's a big shy boy-NO way will he ever be captaincy material, and I don't think he'd thank you for it.

The trouble is that we don't have a natural leader in the whole squad.

Based on nothing more than pure experience Mathers would be the obvious choice.
mortonjag 2007-02-19 20:28:36
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 19 2007, 08:13 PM) [snapback]234048[/snapback]
If I'm not mistaken Big Doc wore a Morton top to most games with Big Doc on the back so even though I know who Big Doc is I doubt if he has ever tried to hide his identity.

Thank you-the information has been passed to my hit squad, and a copy forwarded to my nephew in Carluke! cool.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-19 20:37:40
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Feb 19 2007, 08:18 PM) [snapback]234050[/snapback]
It also makes it sound like its written by Upper Class Englishmen in the 17th Century blink.gif

And is by no means more accurate than many modern versions.

The Holy Bible and accuracy are for me contradictions in terms. Undoubtedly there is an incorporation of historical fact here and there, but it's really just a big conglomerate of fairy stories IMO.

I suppose if you're into that sort of think, the modern versions are at least more easy to read.
mortonjag 2007-02-19 20:44:09
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 19 2007, 08:36 PM) [snapback]234059[/snapback]
Piece of advice aim for the head as Big Doc wears a bullet proof vest and if they miss with the 1st one you will need to buy a florist with the amount of flowers you'll need to send, with a huge Bouquet destined for Carluke. tongue.gif

My centurians don't use bullets midTONs, and when they've finished with him it'll not be the Tiber, but the Clyde that'll be foaming with blood.

May his vest rust in pieces.

AMEN
mortonjag 2007-02-19 22:18:31
QUOTE(Muz @ Feb 19 2007, 10:03 PM) [snapback]234074[/snapback]
Anytime i've seen Walker I think he looks disinterested. Has done nothing that i've seen to justify starting, in fact he struggles to even get on the bench.

He's a big poser as well. He'll be off in the summer for defo.

Who gives a f*ck if a player's, as you put it, a 'poser', as long as he's producing the goods on the park?

It's very easy to have selective vision to fit in with your preconceptions.

Mind you, if I had been signed as an attacking midfielder, and ended up playing as occasional 'odd job boy', I might feel entitled to look slightly less than overjoyed.
mortonjag 2007-02-19 22:20:02
QUOTE(Muz @ Feb 19 2007, 09:58 PM) [snapback]234071[/snapback]
Why dont ye's contact JM and ask him? bet he replies!

IF I was going down that road, I'd be asking JM, AND the player! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-19 22:22:42
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 19 2007, 09:28 PM) [snapback]234066[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Feb 19 2007, 06:05 PM) [snapback]234011[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm not going to start a petition, i just think looking at our current squad the guy who is most "Captain material" is Ryan Harding. It certainly isnt Greacen, who is too quiet to be a captain (apart from the odd hand clap) and not capable of organising his players.

You name me someone better then??? and don't say Mathers or i will know you are having a laugh !!!

I agree that Greacen shouldn't be captain. I just think Harding would be one of the last choices as captain. I have heard (confirmed by mortonjag) that Harding is very shy. I would definitely go with Peter Weatherson.
I thought Collins was a poor captain. I don't think he was liked or respected by his team mates and , for me, he was one of the weak links in the team in his second spell and didn't exactly inspire confidence in his team mates.

I do think he seemed the right choice at first; a long serving Morton player who was great in his first spell and who played at a high level.

Captains are born IMO-it's down to personality more than anything else, and you don't need to be the best player in the squad by a long chalk.

McInnes showed the quality from his teens, for example.
mortonjag 2007-02-19 22:26:09
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 14 2007, 05:34 PM) [snapback]232382[/snapback]
Actually I do know that off the pitch he is a gentleman, generous and very modest too.
Im sure we've all been "pricks" on the pitch at times.

Rubbish-he's a twat-I got it from a reliable source! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-20 07:00:23
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Feb 19 2007, 09:19 PM) [snapback]234065[/snapback]
Ah - more "dumbing down" for the great british public. dry.gif

Just depends on your take-after 400 years it might more accurately be described as 'smartening up'.
mortonjag 2007-02-20 07:17:06
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 19 2007, 10:50 PM) [snapback]234090[/snapback]
On a class of about 30 , girls all Ceptic but Ton supporters we had at least 5 guys who went to the games , but I would say our class was above average in home supporters .
Never really thought about it until you said probably 1 in 3 guys . So I suppose that puts the town in a pretty bad light .
Have to admit that I hate Celtic , probably due to my exposure to all the tatty munchers at school . Actually that would be interesting to see how biased teachers were at school . Wouldn't have like to have went to the Grove Park at that time as we were always cuffing Rangers at that time .

I went to school in Pishley-it was a 'posh' school, and we didn't even get to play football-just Rugby, and cricket in the summer.

Depite that, and I was one of only two Ton fans in my year, almost everybody seemed to support Rangers rather than St Mirren (who were no great shakes at a time when Rangers were very successful), and in the same way as you with Cellic, I've had a lasting distaste for the Huns.

One thing I would say is that I don't remember any of the teachers ever talking about football.

Incidentally my Physics teacher was 'Curly' Campbell who became Rector at Greenock Academy, and my English teacher was Tom Bone who hailed from Greenock, and went on to run Jordanhill College. I'm certain Tom was a Ton supporter, but he never spoke about it at work.
mortonjag 2007-02-20 07:46:39
QUOTE(Franksaton @ Feb 19 2007, 11:04 PM) [snapback]234094[/snapback]
Who gives you the right to say what the people of inverclyde regard as issues they believe in or not! what have you done to express your views or gather support for them! That's right - post a few extreme misrepresentative opinions on here and have the ordasity to say it is representative to the rest of us. Stick to to football! wink.gif

I don't think he DID say what the people think-he posed a question.

His views may seem extreme, but given the latest poll results nationwide, it seems that 'New Labour's been upsetting more than a few folks.
mortonjag 2007-02-20 07:49:07
QUOTE(TONTROOPER @ Feb 19 2007, 11:38 PM) [snapback]234104[/snapback]
75£ per ball lost is better than landing a 1000£ fine for tresspassing.on the line so lets use our greenock training I DIDNI SEE NOTHING wink.gif

Your're more likely to get fined for dropping litter in a waste bin.
mortonjag 2007-02-20 07:53:29 Again none listed.

22 years ago today, the use and sale of contraceptives first became legal in Ireland.

Pat was showing off his first 'legal' packet , and a curious Mick asked why it contained three.

'To be sure, to be sure, to be sure' came the reply.
mortonjag 2007-02-20 08:00:42
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 19 2007, 08:59 PM) [snapback]234063[/snapback]
Article in the Sunday Times (and elsewhere I assume) headlined that SFL clubs have debts of 33 million pounds. The impication is that all clubs have big debts. However, it then gives details of the total debts of 5 clubs (Gretna, Hamilton, Livvy, Ross County and St Johnstone I think) totalling £14 million, and Dundee, £19 million. That makes £33 million in total, so presumably the other 24 clubs have no debts, or at least those in debt are balanced by those in credit, and the sums involved are relatively small. So the SFL debt is in fact the debt owed by only 6 clubs, or 20% of the total, and Dundee are practically bankrupt by the look of it. Only Gretna would seem to be financially viable thanks to Brookes Mileson's backing.

Very misleading headline, but bad news for the heavily indebted clubs. Farewell Livvy in a year or so, and ditto Dundee by the look of it.

Dundee have such a strong history and tradition, I'd be astonished if somebody didn't pop up as a last minute saviour.

As for Livvi, despite flashes of glory, they've never really cut the mustard, and their fanbase is poor in terms of decent income. Furthermore Flynn is only interested in making money. They might very well go down.
mortonjag 2007-02-20 08:06:16
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 19 2007, 09:30 PM) [snapback]234067[/snapback]
If you were to take away the debt that the likes of Killie, Motherwell and others historically ran up in stupid attempts to compete with the old firm, the SPL is profitable. The problem is the financial gap between it the rest of Scottish football means that financial self preservation dictates one up one down and causes stagnent football in the lower leagues. This could mean ultimately no promotion or relegation as when clubs like Hamilton, Morton, Dundee, St Johnstone go bust (as they will if they stay full time in the lower leagues) you'll be left with the likes of your better run small teams like Brechin who will have no interest in meeting stadia compliance.

If things stay as they are, Scotland will end up a one league nation and then that will stagnate too as the stupid barstewards realise that there are only 2/3 teams with anything to play for in any season and we know who two of them will be. At the bottom, teams will not even be playing to avoid relegation and will have season after season of relatively meaningless games.

We need two up two down, maybe bigger leagues and the finances more fairly structured to mean that teams in the lower leagues have at least a fighting chance of promotion without having to risk busting themselves.

In the longer term, I believe also that we have to look much more seriously at the issue of admission to, and expulsion from the entry division.

Just to give an example, compare Inverness Caley, with E.Stirling, or even Montrose with Ross County.

The chickens will finally come home to roost on that issue with the demise of Gretna FC.
mortonjag 2007-02-20 08:38:10
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 20 2007, 08:05 AM) [snapback]234124[/snapback]
He is a big chicken when it comes to the crunch smile.gif

First big chicken I've heard of who can walk on water! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-20 08:47:23
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 20 2007, 08:19 AM) [snapback]234129[/snapback]
Correct Bryan before the Lib Dems were elected at the council elections they were full of promises and new ideas, the public trusted them and gave them a chance, did they deliver, did they feck, they carried on where Labour left off in fact the only thing they fulfilled was Labours policies going back on the issues they fought their election campaign on.

I probably worded it badly-what I meant was that he stated what is generally correct in a somewhat extreme fashion.

On the Lib Dem issue, though I'm apolitical, I always liked the fact that Greenock was a wee bit of a 'one off' in its voting profile compared to most industrialised Scottish towns, but I can't comment on their recent merits and demerits.

Incidentally, as a wee side note- I was always taught that when the local football side is doing well a town's industry fares better too.
mortonjag 2007-02-20 08:50:16
QUOTE(Pat SharpTon @ Feb 20 2007, 08:45 AM) [snapback]234134[/snapback]
Absolute nonsense. They are two different types of footballer for a start. Scott does, and has done, his job much better than Alex has done his when he has been given the chance.

I entirely agree with everything except the first two words.

McLaughlin is exceptionally good at what he does.

Walker is a footballer.
mortonjag 2007-02-20 09:06:03
QUOTE(Pat SharpTon @ Feb 20 2007, 08:56 AM) [snapback]234138[/snapback]
If that's not a contradiction in terms I don't know what is? What's McLaughlin then? A cricketer?

OK, I was being provocative!

I just see them so differently. Alex Walker's got far more natural talent in terms of attacking football, but he certainly doesn't read the defensive game as well as Scotty.

Where the difference lies for me is that when Walker gets the ball just inside his own half, you at least expect something to happen-with Scott you get a square or backward pass.
mortonjag 2007-02-20 09:13:13
QUOTE(Pat SharpTon @ Feb 20 2007, 09:07 AM) [snapback]234141[/snapback]
Ergo, they play in different positions.

Maybe not quite 'ergo' since at the moment Alex doesn't play at all!

I reckon that at Scapa right now the ratio of midfielders to others must be at an all time high.

JM's never going to see past Millar and Stevenson (nor should he WHEN they're playing to form), ergo Alex'll be for 'the off' come the summer IMO.
mortonjag 2007-02-20 09:17:32
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 20 2007, 09:12 AM) [snapback]234143[/snapback]
Football: A game consisting of 22 skilled players, one impartial referee, two
eagle eyed referee's assistants and one stupid ball.
Teammate: Another person that you have to dribble around
Fans: Two sets of abusive referees
Offside: The Bermuda Triangle area of the pitch where "innocent" players are
drawn towards.
Scoring: When 11 men spontaneously start dancing and kissing, regardless of
any injuries, whilst 11 others droop like wallflowers
Striker: Faultless, overpaid, box hogging lay about whom only misses the goal
when he is fed a bad ball
Defender: Player who's function is to commit fouls just outside of the penalty
area
Ball: Round object used by referees to entice players into committing fouls.

laugh.gif

Fans : Two sets of abusive referees--NOT to be confused with 'supporters'.
mortonjag 2007-02-20 09:27:38
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Feb 20 2007, 09:15 AM) [snapback]234145[/snapback]
Jamie Stevenson will never play to a level beyond scottish first division in my opinion. There's no question he's got enough skill and pace to play at a higher level. But unless he gets a bit of hunger and appetite for football he'll never make it.
To me it appears that he's happy enough to be subbed after an hour most games, this is something that annoys me, i'd far rather a player take the huff (chris miller?) at being subbed. How many times this season has Stevenson really looked like he was up for a battle or was putting 100% into his game, very rarely i'd say. It must be easy money, jog around a bit, hit a few decent passes, hit a few corners, then come off after an hour...

Now before I get shouted down, the reason I think Stevenson gets away with playing withing himself or in his comfort zone is because he is a good player. The better you are, the easier football is. I'd love to see JS come flying out the traps some saturday, battle for every ball, demand the ball at every opportunity, then we'd have a right good player.

For Stevenson, read, Finlayson, and Templeman.

All three came to Greenock with outstanding records at this level, and of the three Jamie is arguably the most talented (and youngest).

How many times did you watch him play for Alloa? The boy has hunger and appetite in abundance, and when he was allowed to do things his way, he totally controlled that side, and almost single handedly saved their bacon last season.

I don't pretend to know what goes wrong when those guys come here. Sanny came back, and full credit to him, has turned things round.

Kev, I imagine, may be tempted to return to his daytime job and go back part time just for the sake of getting some pleasure back from the game as a part timer.

As for Jamie-mark my words-he'll be playing at SPL level within the next three years.
mortonjag 2007-02-20 09:32:48
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 20 2007, 09:11 AM) [snapback]234142[/snapback]
My reasoning:

1) Russell is - we are told - left-sided; it would be nice to see what Jim can do on the right, given that we have someone in reserve who can slot in on the left.
2) Millar has been rank rotten for the last few weeks and IMO needs reminded - much as Jamie was against Motherwell - that nobody is guaranteed a start, and I'd rather see Russell given a chance ahead of Keenan (about whom we know plenty, and IMO he's more suited to replacing Scott than an "attack-minded midfielder" such as Millar) and Walker, just out of personal preference.
3) If we never blooded youngsters then we'd be stuck with the same team until the end of time.

While I agree with just about every single thing you've written, you are hugely overstepping yourself.

Do you think that because you're the 'Moderator' of this scabby little 'rag' you're entitled to question those who know.

They are being paid to do it so they MUST know best.

Away and hang your pishy wee aerial out the windae! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-20 09:40:10
QUOTE(Pat SharpTon @ Feb 20 2007, 09:28 AM) [snapback]234150[/snapback]
You're tying yourself in knots Mr Jag.
Alex and Scott PLAY in different positions. AGREED.
Alex has made his last start for Morton and will be off in the summer, judging by the current state of affairs. AGREED. Both points I have made and you have now agreed with. Thank you for you time.

My perception of a 'footballer' is of someone with general all round ability-great footballers have that in abundance.

McLaughlin is totally unimaginitive-he played for an SPL club, and two seasons later is doing a good job as a VERY defensive midfielder in division 2.

I don't think we've yet seen the best of Alex, and next season somebody else probably will.
mortonjag 2007-02-20 09:44:02
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 20 2007, 09:27 AM) [snapback]234149[/snapback]
That rubbish counting for an accountant tongue.gif

Accountants are cautious buggers. He's allowed for two abandoned matches over a season.
mortonjag 2007-02-20 10:10:31 I'm afraid it's all if's and but's at the moment.

Surely the most important factor of all is DDFR's vision of the future.

He's made it perfectly clear he wants to see the Ton playing SPL football, and he's NOT getting younger.

I accept he's not a Mileson-not nearly so rich or daft-but despite increased income from the 1st division gates, he may still be willing to gamble a bit and splash the cash more than we anticipate.

If I were in his shoes, I'd definitely be 'going for broke' next season-there is ABSOLUTELY no reason why we can't be in the SPL in 18 months.
mortonjag 2007-02-20 10:11:48
QUOTE(big al @ Feb 20 2007, 10:08 AM) [snapback]234164[/snapback]
Whilst Weatherston is scoring regularly and getting rave reviews
his main asset is his speed. I have seen QP several times this season
(mate is a season ticket holder) and do not think that he would add much
to our squad. Against better opposition ie Aberdeen in the league cup he was
snuffed out by a fast full back.

If he did come we would prob have to punt Finlayson as they are too similar.

Anyway I would rather we got someone with some bulk rather than another
light weight.

Eh-how many goals has Kev scored in a season and a half?
mortonjag 2007-02-20 10:16:44
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 20 2007, 10:06 AM) [snapback]234162[/snapback]
We had a few teachers who were footie fans , mostly Ceptic though . We had a few Ton supporters who I still see at the games Falconer (science ) , Big Angus (History ) , I'll wait and see who Tam McB turns out to be who I think it is . McGuiness was the English teacher who was the bad loser , although Danny Boyle you didn't want to look at if Ceptic got beat on the Saturday laugh.gif

I guess our lot were secretly just as crazy but felt they 'had to keep up appearances'-let's face it, it WAS still the 50's, and it was still a 'Grammar' school !!! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-20 10:24:27
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 20 2007, 10:07 AM) [snapback]234163[/snapback]
I am taking your first bit of advice and going to give "Of Mice And Men" a miss (for the moment). I may come back to it once I have read a novel which gets over the disappointment of The Catcher. I picked up "Miss Smilla's Feeling For Snow" by Peter Hoeg. It is translated from Danish so not too sure...

My ex wife who taught English used to rave about something called 'Tuesdays with Morrie' and always wanted me to read it. I haven't a clue why, but I guess it must be an 'awful good book'. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-20 10:29:13
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 19 2007, 05:10 PM) [snapback]233993[/snapback]
Lumbered in the hot tub.

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Well, sorry you have to call it a night, the sex was wonderful.
On a scale of 1 to 10, you get a 10. Call me anytime!

Are those real TEETH? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-21 06:43:33
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 20 2007, 12:28 PM) [snapback]234193[/snapback]
I agree, there is a reason Alex Walker isn't more involved at Cappielow. I don't know what it is exactly but I have a feeling his attitude isn't would it could be. This being the cause of him not getting his game rather than the effect. I could be wrong.

It's easy to forget the average age of those players-they are young boys, and they react individually to outside pressures.

If you look at the Alex Walker programme interview he gave shortly after coming here, a couple of things emerge.

Most importantly for me is the fact that at the time several other clubs had expressed interest, but Alex had been highly impressed by everything at Scapa/Quarriers, and clearly saw this as a good career move.
mortonjag 2007-02-21 06:46:45
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Feb 20 2007, 11:06 AM) [snapback]234178[/snapback]
Gents PLEASE. Who will we sign ! Next season ! Where will be in 18 months?

Saturday, Stranraer, Win, concentrate concentrate concentrate wink.gif

Sorry-there is every possibility we could be in division 3 in eighteen month's time. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-21 06:52:25
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Feb 20 2007, 03:48 PM) [snapback]234210[/snapback]
How on earth do you show hunger and commitment when your stuck out on the right wing, totally isolated for most of the game? By lunging in for balls like the 50-50 in front of the Cowshed, breaking your leg, the opponents leg, and recieving a red card in the process? Hrm. The people that were screaming at him for that really know nothing at all about...well, anything, if you think a player should be risking so much for a nothing ball. Jamie is a good tackler, and a right hard-worker, but frankly, it's very hard for anyone to show that stuck so far wide. OK, Finlayson appears to run about a lot more playing that side, but at the end of the day contributes bugger all, really.

Our midfield should be:
Millar-Stevenson-McLaughlin-McAllister.

However, Jim really needs to improve his discipline (in a positional and tactical sense) if he ever wants to play football beyond 2nd Division level. His dribbling and tackling ability is undeniable, he's decent in the air and stronger than you'd expect for his size as well as being unbelievably fit.

However, his runs up the wing are frankly abysmal, although it must be said that you have to question his managers role in all of this. Surely to god McInally has spotted this, so why on earth doesn't he take him aside in training every day and work on it? I accept that Jim may not be strongest on the left-side, but it's no excuse for wanting to play closer to his own goal than his left-back half the time! I do like him as a raw footballer, but as part of a team his role is dubious to say the least unfortunately. If he sorts that out he can go a long way smile.gif

Good thoughts, but you finally say'if HE sorts that out', and I believe that's the nub of the matter-HE can't, as long as he's forced to play in a restrictive bubble by an unimaginitive manager.
mortonjag 2007-02-21 06:55:59
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 20 2007, 04:23 PM) [snapback]234217[/snapback]
When you get to my age, a four hundred pound excess to get your balls back does not seem like a bad deal!

Depends whether it's 'new for old' or 'we'll send you a list of our approved repairers'.
mortonjag 2007-02-21 07:01:38
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Feb 20 2007, 11:14 PM) [snapback]234223[/snapback]
East Stirling is always the name that is picked upon when folk use the old argument that there are too many clubs, the one that should be punted out of the SFL is the 'amateurs' of Queens park. If they want to remain amateurs they should play in an amateur league and make way for a team that may give footballers a living wage for what they do best.

I'm sure the E. Stirling boys must have already had a rise from the ten quid a week quoted two years ago, but 'earning a living wage'-c'mon.

You have to be playing in Division 1 (with few exceptions) to earn a living wage in Scottish football.
mortonjag 2007-02-21 07:11:06
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Feb 21 2007, 06:40 AM) [snapback]234245[/snapback]
Kia Ora bros ,

I have always used an electric shaver. I forgot to pick up the cord to charge my shaver in a hostel and so now I have a shaver but can't charge it.

I have therefore started using disposable razors and wet shaving , something I used to only do on occasion.

Should I continue what I am doing ? If yes please advise the best and most cost effective razors on the market and what shaving foam/gel to use , if any.

And , will I be able to get a replacement lead for my electric shaver ?

I've never used electric shavers, but I'm sure you'll easily pick up a replacement cord.

Having shaved almost daily for 40 plus years, I now shave in the shower or bath-I don't use a mirror-you get a better shave if you do it by 'feel'. I don't waste money on expensive foams or gels-just a wee smear of liquid soap or shower gel's better in my experience.

Disposable razors are a 'hit and miss' affair-some of my best have come from Poundland.
mortonjag 2007-02-21 07:19:03
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Feb 21 2007, 06:45 AM) [snapback]234247[/snapback]
It wasn't that good. And what's wrong with Anna Karenina? One of my favourite books - hero with no redeeming qualities. Completely agree about Miss Smilla. Much better on second reading.

As for what I'm currently reading, maybe I'm heading for second childhood , but I don't care. Last week I re-read Kidnapped and then David and Catriona, this week I'm back on Treasure Island. That Blind Pew was some scary bastard indeed. I think RLS can be counted as one of the best gifts Scotland gave to literature.

Couldn't agree more. Kidnapped is fantastic.

I was dragged along to see Anna Karenina many, many years ago in the Citizens theatre.

I made a genuinely superhuman effort firstly to understand what was going on, followed fairly rapidly by attempts to stop yawning.

At 'half time' I had a good stiff drink, and giving it big ZZZZZ's 'til the final whistle was infinitely more pleasurable.

Dreary, and depressing stuff.

The lengths some folks go to to 'kid on' they're 'with it' never fails to amaze me.
mortonjag 2007-02-21 07:52:29
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Feb 21 2007, 07:27 AM) [snapback]234255[/snapback]
Fair dos. I like the book. You didn't like the play. I also quite liked the ITV dramatisation of it - breaking it down into edible chunks. I'm not sure that either position could be described as being "with it".

And what's wrong with books being dreary and depressing. Life isn't all smiles. wink.gif

Couldn't agree more-anybody who's happy all the time poses a serious question.

TAFKAK, it was a long time ago-I'd already done an Arts degree at 'Uni', and by then was in a much more scientific environment, so I was probably determined not to enjoy it, especially as everybody else was so f*cking 'arty farty' and 'know all' about those things.

I just can't be bothered having to 'work' at being entertained-for me it's a contradiction in terms.

Give me Frankie Howerd, or Benny Hill anytime!
mortonjag 2007-02-21 07:58:08 Identity cards were ABOLISHED in Britain 55 years ago on today's date.

Happy birthday carlito.

Marx's manifesto 159 today!
mortonjag 2007-02-21 08:40:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 21 2007, 08:02 AM) [snapback]234261[/snapback]
That explains why Alibi never had one.

He is not 55 until next month.

laugh.gif laugh.gif

Then he's been fibbing on his profile !!! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-21 08:54:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 21 2007, 08:33 AM) [snapback]234282[/snapback]
if Minx is the plural of Minx.

huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif

You've brought a tear to my eye-I looked out an old Hillman/Humber manual, and they spelled it Minxes.

Just remembering that old automatic Humber Sceptre with the walnut dash and leather seats-lovely Royal Blue as well. unsure.gif

mortonjag 2007-02-21 08:56:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 21 2007, 08:50 AM) [snapback]234288[/snapback]
Alibi could be correct, mortonjag.

Let him produce his identity card as evidence.

When one is his age, what are a couple of monrhs ??

huh.gif huh.gif

He shares a birthday with my ex wife-both self professed goats! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-21 09:00:48
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 21 2007, 08:46 AM) [snapback]234287[/snapback]
you can have those two. dry.gif

2 of the most overrated "comedians" i've even seen. along with harry hill & that fat ugly bitch jo brand

Whatever turns you off!!

Harry Hill-ex medic-I don't find him at all funny

Jo Brand-ex nurse-occasionally witty but overrated

I thought Frankie Howerd, and Benny Hill were absolutely superb champions of their genre-you clearly don't enjoy smutty innuendo.

Which church do you attend?
mortonjag 2007-02-21 09:04:51 FFS guys-here we go again.

We struggled and managed a point at Beath.

We were beaten at home by Brechin.

We played well against Ayr-but even JM admitted we lost it for a while.

Stranraer went to Stirling last week and cuffed them 2-0.

What I'm getting at is that football's SO unpredictable, I'm going for Stranraer 0 Morton 7 wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-21 09:25:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 21 2007, 09:17 AM) [snapback]234295[/snapback]
better a goat than a sheep.

smile.gif smile.gif

Depends which country you live in. Mind you most sheep end up on the dinner table. sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-21 09:29:49
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 21 2007, 09:26 AM) [snapback]234299[/snapback]
If you want to go down that road I would say there is more likely hood of us being in the SPL than the 3rd Division tongue.gif

Yes I have to agree-that likelihood is a definite possibility, nay, a probable certainty! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-21 09:34:50
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Feb 21 2007, 09:13 AM) [snapback]234294[/snapback]
My late old man, an evangelical lay preacher, loved both. He never saw the contradiction. Either that, or he didn't understand what he was watching.

Snap TAFKAK, my father in law was a presbyterian minister, and sat glued to 'Up Pompeii' every week-AND he knew fine well what 'tittering' meant!!!
mortonjag 2007-02-21 09:37:57
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 21 2007, 09:24 AM) [snapback]234297[/snapback]
My grandfather was a timber measurer and the captain of Greenock Golf Club.

When timber measuring was tight in the late 1950s, he had a wee garage in Campbell Street and used to clean and polish his golfing mates' cars ...

Humber Sceptres

Riley Pathfinders

Rovers

Daimlers

and then go all over Scotland playing golf with them and spending time at the 19th hole.

He was great mates with John S Thompson.

smile.gif smile.gif

Indeed and Wolseley had the '444' long before the current breed of 4 x 4 shagging wagons!
mortonjag 2007-02-21 09:44:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 21 2007, 08:38 AM) [snapback]234284[/snapback]
Did his brother invent Weetbix ?

Apparently not- Weetabix was started in Kettering in 1932 by two South Africans.

They may have wanted to call it 'white are best', but you know what those bloody accents are like to understand. cool.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-21 09:49:09
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 21 2007, 09:35 AM) [snapback]234303[/snapback]
Willow, what about Kenny mcLean and Brian Graham??
Do take your point though, personally I don't think McGowan will stay after the summer so another striker (at least) has to be a priority.

I've always believed that sooner or later Spoonsy would be used where he's best. Call it 'striker' 'attacking midfielder', goalscorer' or whatever you like.

Let's USE the talented young right back we've got waiting in the wings, instead of paying him to mark time.
mortonjag 2007-02-21 09:55:24 Archie bloody McPherson, and it just gets worse. He's so f*cking irritatingly pedantic, and on last night's performance he'll soon still be doing the 'build up' five minutes into the game.

I can't BELIEVE he gets paid for that.
mortonjag 2007-02-21 10:05:10
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Feb 21 2007, 09:58 AM) [snapback]234308[/snapback]
Wet shave? Bah! I've been dry shaving for 21 years now.....

Try a wee drop of water-it's MUCH quicker that way! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-21 10:13:33
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 20 2007, 03:58 PM) [snapback]234211[/snapback]
Reserves beat Gretna 1-0. Don't know who scored (think it was a striker with shortish blond hair) but goal was set up by Bobby Linn with a run at their defence. Alex Walker was playing at centre back, Deano was dominating the midfield. David McGurn was in goal and didn't have a lot to do but made one good save from short range and dealt with everything else well.

Where were you all? Part timers!!

How strong was the Gretna side? I'm particularly interested because of your comments about Keenan-some of the forum posters haven't a good word to say about that boy.
mortonjag 2007-02-21 10:16:27 wde meets an old Kiwi Fruit rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-21 11:07:16
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 21 2007, 10:27 AM) [snapback]234318[/snapback]
Jim McInally has said that Spoonsy prefers playing right back cause he is facing the ball and can attack it. When he played up front he had his back to the goal and found it harder.
It's a good tactic to have though, and has worked plenty of times for us, to push him up front when required.

Weegie, I'm sick to death of hearing that-what Spoonsy THINKS he's best at is not necessarily correct.

Ask any professional golfer of tennis player after he's used a better coach.

He agreed to play there after his previously excellent goalscoring form dried up-around the time of that scandal thing.

He was interviewed at the time by his local Geordie paper, and agreed he was willing to 'play anywhere' just to get a game.

Ever since, it's suited JM to keep him there for one reason or another, and that hasn't been helped by his frequently being impressive in the position, but ultimately Spoonsy is a striker.
mortonjag 2007-02-21 11:13:59
QUOTE(Edinton @ Feb 21 2007, 11:09 AM) [snapback]234327[/snapback]
Like I said before - you two need to get a room tongue.gif

What? I've got a room-I'm sitting in it as I type.

Stop associating me with that jolly swagman you cheeky young tyke. wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-21 11:25:52
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 21 2007, 11:20 AM) [snapback]234331[/snapback]
It's to do with the picture ratio. BBC and ITV always broadcast in widescreen (16:9) but the vast majority of european channels still broadcast in the normal full screen ratio (4:3). So if away European games are on BBC or ITV, then they've got to box it off.

So we're ahead of the rest of Europe in something then!
mortonjag 2007-02-21 11:39:04
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 21 2007, 11:27 AM) [snapback]234335[/snapback]
I assume you mean the 4/44? Which I think refers to 4 cylinders and 44 bhp output (a lot in those days).

Newton, was that garage near the top end of Campbell St? Used to get petrol there in the 70s when I think it was a Saab/Volvo dealership.

It's amazing how cars have changed-my present car-a Saab incidentally-has over six times that output, and it's only QUITE quick!
mortonjag 2007-02-21 11:44:45
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Feb 21 2007, 11:35 AM) [snapback]234338[/snapback]
Mabiy he was on that thing that isent balamory that thay film at Gourock Primery

Now class do you know what a smag head is
laugh.gif

How did your naughty avator avoid censorship?

I approve BTW!
mortonjag 2007-02-21 11:47:35
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 21 2007, 11:43 AM) [snapback]234341[/snapback]
In truth both teams were poor. Deano stood out, and the central defenders, Walker and a tall no. 5 were impressive. Too many players lacked basic control though, on both sides. Gretna had David Bingham playing, well past his best, and I think McGuffie may have been in their team too.

mmm-still a good morale booster for the boys.
mortonjag 2007-02-21 12:13:05
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Feb 21 2007, 12:06 PM) [snapback]234348[/snapback]
F*** knows lol laugh.gif laugh.gif

It's daft anyway Pedro-you can write 'phuck' and it stays the way it is-up 'til now I've not tried Kunt unsure.gif

See what I phuckin' mean?
mortonjag 2007-02-21 12:17:23 Calling cooncillors eejits is like calling a spade a 'digging implement' IMO.
mortonjag 2007-02-21 12:20:08
QUOTE(leyTON @ Feb 21 2007, 12:15 PM) [snapback]234350[/snapback]
anyone know the complete line up for this game?
cheers

just checked GMFC-no mention of the game as far as I can see. huh.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-21 12:22:16
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 21 2007, 11:57 AM) [snapback]234345[/snapback]
The Greacen/Moore tussle in the last game at Cappielow is one of the best battles I've seen at any game for yonks. No quarter asked for or given. Hope it's the same on Saturday.

Moore ended up drifting right to try and get some space, and still managed a red card!

Hope it's the same as you say.
mortonjag 2007-02-21 14:38:21
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Feb 21 2007, 01:16 PM) [snapback]234366[/snapback]
Are you SW in disguise.

When i enter the board forum, every thread has a post from you, some of it makes sense and some dont.

Just a query, are you SW in disguise laugh.gif

The ones that make sense are done by the Monkey-the rest just seem to appear from nowhere. Maybe you should ask SW! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-21 14:42:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 21 2007, 01:57 PM) [snapback]234389[/snapback]
how do you know that he's RC ?

I don't, I was only using the term affectionately!!!
mortonjag 2007-02-21 14:44:50
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 21 2007, 01:20 PM) [snapback]234367[/snapback]
I suggest that Nocho or whoever runs this site starts up a subscription service where we can contribute a small amount to pay for psychological help for certain board members.

'Twould take much more than that DM, but your plea for help is commendable.
mortonjag 2007-02-21 14:50:39
QUOTE(stonerose @ Feb 21 2007, 01:29 PM) [snapback]234374[/snapback]
I agree that Millar and Stevenson would be better suited wide and central, as opposed to central and wide. And McAllister is being wasted out left as he has no left peg.

On the issue of Stevenson however, which is what this thread is about . The guy is totally bereft of confidence. That was patently clear throughout on Saturday and was best illustrated when he was put through on the right shortly before he was subbed. You could see that he didn't want the ball played to him (admittedly I was behind him, but it was very obvious from his body language / shape) and you just knew (as he also did) that he wouldn't hit the target, never mind score. On numerous occasions this season (in fact much more often than not), he has "hidden" during games - which you could never accuse Millar of.

Regarding the above comments from Eanie. I was one of those folks who was distinctly unimpressed - although not surprised - by Stevenson's half-hearted attempt at a challenge on Saturday. The people who were shouting at him know nothing? That is total and utter rubbish. He has a much greater chance of a bad knock going in like a fairy than getting his weight behind a decent challenge. And red cards don't generally get dished out for a hard, but fair challenge. Come to think of it, when was the last time any 50:50 resulted in 2 broken legs and a red card. To say that Jamie is a "good tackler" beggars belief IMO and I think he would admit that himself. And how can you NOT show hunger and commitment when you're stuck wide right...Beckham springs to mind as someone who invariably demonstrated both those qualities from that position.

Stevenson clearly has ability, but he ain't demonstrating it very often at the moment. He's obviously more talented than Finlayson for example and would definitely be better suited in the middle where he can run the show - but not when he's so low on confidence. The lack of confidence is confusing as well...he's playing every week in a team that's top of the league, gets good backing from the fans in general and even when he does something good (like setting up Templeman's second goal on Sat - an excellent ball in), he doesn't seem to take much of a lift from it. Maybe a wee break would be good for him?

Hope this doesn't sound like an attack on the boy...I think he's a good player, who we've yet to see the best of.

You'd think some people never saw this boy play at Alloa-it's only since he came here that things have changed.

I can't believe for one minute the backroom boys don't see it-or have they caused it?

If not, they don't seem able to do much to fix it.
mortonjag 2007-02-21 14:52:33 Am I you, or are you me in disguise?
mortonjag 2007-02-21 19:47:06
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 21 2007, 04:22 PM) [snapback]234430[/snapback]
Why have you quoted my post ?

You posed a question-I have suggested what may be a posible answer.
mortonjag 2007-02-21 19:48:35
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Feb 21 2007, 05:01 PM) [snapback]234441[/snapback]
Did you check fixtures section? Result has been there since around tea time yesterday.

Was looking for a list of players.
mortonjag 2007-02-21 19:56:09
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Feb 21 2007, 06:44 PM) [snapback]234463[/snapback]
Great post.
Unfortunately Millar is one of the first to hide in the game; you'll notice that when Millar plays, Morton play.

In some challenges, yes you should get stuck in, but he was never going to get near that tackle on Saturday so it was sensible to stay on his feet rather than leave us with ten men or a crocked player.
Exactly, Jamie was phenominal in a dreadful Alloa side, scoring something like 18 goals from midfield.

Both the staff and the fans have been here before with Sanny, and after a lot of unfortunate negativity from some fans who have all of a sudden gone awfully quiet on this board, he will probably be one of the first names on the teamsheet having turned in some brilliant performances recently. Amazing what a bit of confidence and support can do. A wee bit of encouragement would go down well with Jamie I'm sure and benefit the player and therefore our club!

And the third player in the category is Kevin Finlayson. I gave that guy quite a hard time when he arrived-he had been SO good for Stranraer, and really WAS pretty useless for us PLAYED AS HE WAS.

Just as you've commented about Sanny, where are the guys who ripped me to shreds in his defence?

I've made this point several times recently-just as with Stevenson at Alloa, Kev was the backbone of Stranraer's promotion side. He gave up his job to go full-time, and must now be wondering if he took a backward step.
mortonjag 2007-02-21 20:01:55 JM's secret plan is to surprise Stranraer by NOT announcing in advance his predictably unchanged team.

Unsurprisingly Stranraer will not be surprised.
mortonjag 2007-02-21 20:05:19
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Feb 21 2007, 07:56 PM) [snapback]234497[/snapback]
I'm sure if East Stirling could afford £10k+ a week players like Riordan, O'Connor, McFadden etc. then they would already be doing so, but as things stand they are paying guys the equivalent of a taxi fare because it is all they can afford. Queens park, on the other hand, get to play in a brilliant new all-seater stadium paid for by the lottery at no expense to themselves, they are amateur so they dont have the burden of paying players anything, thus giving them an unfair advantage over others in a more impoverished state. Unlike Partick Thistle, the communities which Queens park allegedly represent dont support them, and unlike Livingston, Clyde etc. they dont seem to want to interact with their local community or involve themselves in youth coaching set-ups etc.

Im sure if Clydebank were given SFL status again and based in their home town, theyd employ a squad of players on either full-time or part-time wages or both, and theyd be involved with schools teams etc., and the community will come out and support them, ditto Annan Athletic, Deveronvale, Fraserburgh etc.

Queens Park are an anachronism-I agree- but suggesting that by going (from div 3) they'd make way for players to earn a decent living wage is daft.
mortonjag 2007-02-21 20:08:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 21 2007, 06:40 PM) [snapback]234461[/snapback]
that would be by far the most dangerous of his exploits.

wallabies don't like being handled by lads in kilts.

or even lassies

in Kanga pants.
mortonjag 2007-02-21 20:12:09
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Feb 21 2007, 07:06 PM) [snapback]234473[/snapback]
Well I just looked there and now I know, cos it didnt say anything about me in the title I didnt know!!!!!! sad.gif

SW I've waited over an hour to post this, so they probably won't notice-Oi the bath's overflowing-turn it off!

rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-21 20:19:27
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Feb 21 2007, 07:05 PM) [snapback]234472[/snapback]
Was thinking when I saw the FAO SW, not again! Yet again I am being slated!

Argyllston - thanks for ur wee comment!

SW don't take it personally-most of the posts from our 'more intelligent' members are exactly the same as yours, with the difference that they're preceded by a load verbal mince.
mortonjag 2007-02-21 20:30:16
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Feb 21 2007, 08:04 PM) [snapback]234505[/snapback]
unsure.gif

I thought Oor Ernie was a multi-millionaire?

I thought youd have a genuine badgers arse for a shaving brush.
laugh.gif

I own Poundland!

Badger's arses, contrary to popular opinion, make very poor shaving brushes-but you, being a resourseful chap, could undoubtedly find a more basic use for the facility. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-21 20:34:43
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Feb 21 2007, 08:27 PM) [snapback]234522[/snapback]
Like you post every morning, pain in the arse when ye cant take a joke eh,

sleep.gif

Did I say there was anything wrong with verbal mince?

WELL-Did I ??? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-21 20:40:25
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Feb 21 2007, 08:10 PM) [snapback]234511[/snapback]
If they want to be amateurs then they should f*** off back to where amateurs belong.

simple as that.

The best amateurs are normally infinitely better than the worst 'professionals' in any walk of life.

Talking about the financial logistics is one thing. Rubbishing them for their status is another.
mortonjag 2007-02-21 20:43:32
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 21 2007, 08:33 PM) [snapback]234529[/snapback]
There isn't an appropriate smiley for that statement.

You and McLaughlin certainly have two things in common. Consistency and lack of imagination!

C'mon the Deano. biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-21 20:46:21
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Feb 21 2007, 08:36 PM) [snapback]234534[/snapback]
Ye dont have to m8, its in your Genes

I don't wear jeans, and you want to learn how to spell properly.
mortonjag 2007-02-21 20:49:03
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 21 2007, 08:45 PM) [snapback]234539[/snapback]
How do you know what type of smiley I wanted? rolleyes.gif

When did you see the light-Haw Deano, come back all is forgiven! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-21 21:20:39
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 21 2007, 09:15 PM) [snapback]234548[/snapback]
I bought a beard trimmer recently, bloody expensive.

I use a Mach 3 to trim the little bits of stubble from my chin but otherwise a man should have a beard, it's the was nature intended us.

Beards are for unshaven Fannies.

Baldy Fannies with beards are totally acceptable.
mortonjag 2007-02-21 21:23:27
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 21 2007, 09:10 PM) [snapback]234546[/snapback]
You missed a word out. sad.gif

unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-21 21:27:51
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 21 2007, 09:19 PM) [snapback]234550[/snapback]
Signing third division players for a (potential, don't want to jinx it) first division campaign is totally pointless. We should be looking at SPL drop-outs and established first division players.

An unusually sweeping statement from you DM

Caley have just signed Panty Liner-just to quote one contradictory example.
mortonjag 2007-02-21 21:30:41
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 21 2007, 09:22 PM) [snapback]234552[/snapback]
I am speechless Mr. Jag.

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mortonjag 2007-02-21 21:31:56
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 21 2007, 09:30 PM) [snapback]234556[/snapback]
I am the king of sweeping generalisations.

Proven by those very words, Sir! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-21 21:33:10
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 21 2007, 09:29 PM) [snapback]234555[/snapback]
That's not a word rolleyes.gif

Correct
mortonjag 2007-02-21 21:36:33
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Feb 21 2007, 09:33 PM) [snapback]234560[/snapback]
Aye ok pal

What happened to-'It's a laugh Weegie'?

Somebody steal your scone? wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-22 06:14:58
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 22 2007, 02:09 AM) [snapback]234648[/snapback]
To use your work analogy, they have went from working for a relaxed company with little pressure and less demanding customers to a more high pressure job with higher expectations and more demanding customers. I don't think that any of the players I mentioned are very self confident and if things aren't going well their heads go down rather than them believing they are good enough to work through it.

I think you're very near the truth there.

To find an answer, you'd have to look at what's happened in similar situations-I don't recall this happening so strikingly elsewhere in Scottish football, and find it uncanny that three players, ALL the stars of the second division clubs they played for, have come here and ALL been affected by the same ailment.

I do NOT believe they brought that with them-in their individual ways they were all assertive elsewhere, ESPECIALLY Stevenson.

The Scapa syndrome needs rapid diagnosis and treatment-could it be infective?
-Symptoms include quietness to the point of shyness, lack of assertiveness at the trackside, always playing oneself down, and willingness to take blame unduly.

Maybe they've caught it from somebody else.
mortonjag 2007-02-22 06:40:15
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 21 2007, 09:34 PM) [snapback]234565[/snapback]
I never posed a question. I said that I had a feeling that it wasn't just due to Walkers ability that he isnt getting a game but that I didn't know that for a fact. huh.gif

You stated there is a problem to which you do not know the answer.

You finished by suggesting an answer and stating it might not be correct.

You did NOT ask a direct question.

I quoted your post in response to your searching comments.
mortonjag 2007-02-22 06:43:49
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 21 2007, 09:38 PM) [snapback]234569[/snapback]
I must say I'm surprised at you being so rude about the 'gentlemen' of Queens Park. Here was me thinking that they were your second team. I'd always imagined yourself and Toby in the comfy seats, joining in the jolly banter with cries of 'Come away the Spiders' and 'You're a blinking idiot, referee'.
Is that me disillusioned or what? biggrin.gif

ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-22 06:46:50
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 21 2007, 11:01 PM) [snapback]234608[/snapback]
I'm hoping nd expecting us to win but as the finishing line gets close most teams struggle - it even happened to Gretna last season with a few blips before they finally made sure of promotion. We have not had many clean sheets since the turn of the year and up against Moore, I reckon we will concede.

I'll go for Stranraer 2 - 3 Morton

On that note it's perhaps significant that Ayr lost 0 -2 at home to Raith last night-at this end of the season results definitely become less predictable than ever.
mortonjag 2007-02-22 06:50:59
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 21 2007, 10:59 PM) [snapback]234607[/snapback]
You are not seriously suggesting Keenan for McLaughlin , just when I was beginning to believe you know more than JM , back to the coaching badges you numpty. laugh.gif

tongue.gif

As you know I was just having a wee game with arch Deanophobe.

NO, I'd play Scott ahead of him in this type of game.
mortonjag 2007-02-22 06:55:21
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 21 2007, 10:25 PM) [snapback]234598[/snapback]
I tend to agree we should not hang our hopes on someone fresh from amateur football in the third division although he is highly regarded by a number of clubs apparently. There are examples, however, of players making the step up - Conway from Ayr to Dundee United is another apart from Panty Liner. Incidentally, he may be a Caley squad player but he seems to be getting a game.

I also agree that it may be prudent to look at more experienced players. There is a possibility that Dundee may be forced to go part time next season and so there might be some possibilities there - Derek Lyle maybe?

We were humped more than once last season by a side of ex juniors, and the guy who did most damage -Wardlaw, came straight from amateur football.

Some posters seem to think you have to shop in M & S when all you need's a sandwich.
mortonjag 2007-02-22 07:01:01
QUOTE(Franksaton @ Feb 21 2007, 11:54 PM) [snapback]234631[/snapback]
Never been known to take things too seriously (honest! mad.gif ) but sometimes, I’m sure you will agree, it seems that people follow a theme of a thread like sheep and all of a sudden they are part of the new sect. heaven forbid the Garbage Dwellers from Pishly picking up on this one and all of a sudden we are Midden fans. blink.gif

We've got a general nonsense forum, and most of us generally talk nonsense on it.

You can spot the genuine political fanatics a mile away, and fortunately they're few and far between.
mortonjag 2007-02-22 07:05:52 The defence was noticeably tighter after Mathers arrived-many on here commented on that.

Form comes and goes-that's football, but Mathers' signing has to be seen in perspective, and it's been made very clear he didn't come as a long term replacement for McGurn. Time will tell.
mortonjag 2007-02-22 07:07:36
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 21 2007, 09:56 PM) [snapback]234583[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2007-02-22 07:11:33
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 21 2007, 09:34 PM) [snapback]234564[/snapback]
I conclude that Mr. Jag must be a heavy drinker. Either that or as mad as a box of badgers.

Typically illogical conclusion DM

Might it not be that he is both? smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-22 07:13:13
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Feb 21 2007, 09:37 PM) [snapback]234568[/snapback]
Isnt that a Palace rolleyes.gif

Most palaces are not scones.
One Scone is a palace.
mortonjag 2007-02-22 07:14:46
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 21 2007, 09:38 PM) [snapback]234570[/snapback]
there's also a possibility he's a pompous dobber who has spent his whole life under the erroneous impression that each and every crappy thought that passes through his mind is worth sharing.

Just off for a huge smelly keech-do come and share. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-22 07:20:33
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 21 2007, 09:49 PM) [snapback]234575[/snapback]
You could be right. My wife thinks I spend huge amounts of time on here but I've posted under 1000 times. I find it hard to belive that people can post 3, 4, 5 times more than I do but I suppose if there's some form of cerebral dysentery going on then it's possible to rack up those scores.

Cerebral dysentery is with us for sure-I suspect that its prevalence among our posters may not be in direct proportion to the volume and quality of their typographical faeces.
mortonjag 2007-02-22 07:27:23
QUOTE(Savo @ Feb 21 2007, 10:22 PM) [snapback]234596[/snapback]
Would that be the legendary ad on the back cover with the references to 'soft-footed ponies' and government limousines perchance? laugh.gif laugh.gif

laugh.gif

It's a tremendous read-no matter how often I go back I'm always able to see another subtle literary nuance.

Vaguely reminiscent of Honore de Balzac's 'Peau de Chagrin' methinks.
mortonjag 2007-02-22 07:28:40
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 21 2007, 11:09 PM) [snapback]234614[/snapback]
One issue of Nuts I read was particularly disappointing - not a single flash of hairy clam. Pish.

That's my boy-you tell 'em!
mortonjag 2007-02-22 07:32:06
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 21 2007, 11:35 PM) [snapback]234622[/snapback]
back in my days in the foreign legion, we weren't allowed to use toilet paper during ramadan. the top brass thought that the smell of s*** stopped the muzzies from coming too close. and you know what?

they were right.

Going on what you type, you never lost that Ramadan propensity.
mortonjag 2007-02-22 07:33:38
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Feb 22 2007, 01:18 AM) [snapback]234638[/snapback]
I don't think it's class at all - more like crass. The guy's a tube and doesn't deserve the £60k a week paycheck.

We seem to be agreeing to much those days! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-22 07:39:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 21 2007, 09:57 PM) [snapback]234585[/snapback]
did I read some university research last week that 10% of rams prefer rams to ewes???

A university in Washington State or Oregon ?
huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif

If it's one of those naff Yankee research papers, it'll be hyped to f*ck.

No doubt they only had ten rams-well nine and a lamb ram which still wanted to be with its big brother.
mortonjag 2007-02-22 07:46:24 Dolly-ten years since the first successful cloning.

Woolies-128 today.

Also to our three birthday posters.
mortonjag 2007-02-22 09:04:23 Total con this one-anybody can see the train's reversing. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-22 09:56:26
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 22 2007, 09:28 AM) [snapback]234682[/snapback]
People really should just read the travel forum and your away day guide in the programme Jim.

Some folk are on a budget-£2 and all that lecky!
mortonjag 2007-02-22 10:15:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 21 2007, 01:51 PM) [snapback]234387[/snapback]
SW's grandfather perhaps ?

huh.gif

Impossible-none of my children has a twenty five year old daughter.
That's the official line! happy.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-22 10:18:44
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Feb 22 2007, 10:14 AM) [snapback]234701[/snapback]
Genius. Who is Michelle Ryan?

Irish tortoise.
mortonjag 2007-02-22 10:22:52
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 22 2007, 10:08 AM) [snapback]234700[/snapback]
As Jackie says, he's played 33 minutes over 3 sub appearances... if that's "getting a game", then Andy McLaren will be pleased to know that he was a highly experienced international campaigner for Scotland.

FFS-give him a chance-Bobby Linn's wasn't thrown straight in either, and he didn't climb two divisions.
mortonjag 2007-02-22 10:29:21
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Feb 22 2007, 10:16 AM) [snapback]234704[/snapback]
Nope. Only highlights further what a moronic little ned he is.

Sir, I commend your masterly litotes. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-22 10:47:56
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 22 2007, 10:44 AM) [snapback]234711[/snapback]
i disagree. rolleyes.gif

Monkeys hate beer. wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-22 11:19:49
QUOTE(Benny Boy @ Feb 22 2007, 10:54 AM) [snapback]234713[/snapback]
The remarkable run of clean sheets at the beginning of the season was achieved with a back five of:

McGurn, Weatherson, Walker, Greacen and Harding.

With no apparent benefits, we have changed this to:

Mathers, Weatherson, McGregor, Greacen and Harding.

Not sure what to make of it all.

I bet Alex isn't either! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-22 12:26:11
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 22 2007, 12:16 PM) [snapback]234723[/snapback]
For the record, the games we have lost this season have been...

Alloa away - McGregor out for Walker
Stirling away - Templeman out for Finlayson
Brechin home - McLaughlin out for Linn

Stick with the usual eleven!

Are you Tonsilitis in disguise-more bloody numbers which mean SFA!
mortonjag 2007-02-22 12:27:55
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Feb 22 2007, 11:27 AM) [snapback]234718[/snapback]
Maybe he was copying Alex Williams.... rolleyes.gif

Clubbing? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-22 13:23:04
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 22 2007, 01:01 PM) [snapback]234738[/snapback]
That's what happens when we have 2 homes games then 2 or 3 away games in a row, space is limited in the programme there for Susan has to work out the best way to get all the away guides fitted in before we travel, not ideal but until the chairman agrees to made the programme thicker then there is no other alternative.

Oops-Chairman-programme-THICKER-watch your step Sir! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-22 13:31:10
QUOTE(leyTON @ Feb 22 2007, 01:24 PM) [snapback]234750[/snapback]
it would seem that sw has come out quite while in this
most of the derogatory comments directed towards mr jag
poor fellow
tongue.gif

I am an inveterate slagophile leyTON-I love them all to bits-just a shame when some put me on 'ignore' though-cop out merchants.

Thanks for your concern-now who do we go for next---mmm----ThornTON doesn't visit here much-do you my little chocolate finger sooker? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-22 13:35:37
QUOTE(leyTON @ Feb 22 2007, 01:32 PM) [snapback]234762[/snapback]
that newton guy really twists my melons lol

You should see him with pumpkins! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-22 14:38:43
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 22 2007, 01:48 PM) [snapback]234770[/snapback]
But Marks & Spencer do the best sandwiches!!

AND
mortonjag 2007-02-22 14:39:08
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 22 2007, 01:51 PM) [snapback]234772[/snapback]
And he's scored an amazing 4 goals this season!

And as Tonsilitis says, they do make the best pre-packaged sandwiches.

AND
mortonjag 2007-02-22 14:40:43
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 22 2007, 02:04 PM) [snapback]234781[/snapback]
Eh, most folk would have predicted a Raith win last night.

MOST folk? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-22 14:41:15
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 22 2007, 02:06 PM) [snapback]234782[/snapback]
Yip, was the "sure thing" on my trixie. Shame Barca fecked it mad.gif

You should leave your trixie alone.
mortonjag 2007-02-23 06:46:09
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 22 2007, 02:57 PM) [snapback]234799[/snapback]
OK Everyone but you tongue.gif

Would I want it any other way? cool.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-23 06:48:22
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 22 2007, 03:12 PM) [snapback]234803[/snapback]
AND

We're only in division 2-anyway they're better at sandwiches than football going on last night's results!
mortonjag 2007-02-23 06:50:59
QUOTE(Pat SharpTon @ Feb 22 2007, 03:19 PM) [snapback]234806[/snapback]
It's not pleasant. Imagine trying to get a bit of friction between a cucumber and a fully opened Tesco value binbag. That should paint the picture.

Never met an aggressive cucumber in my life-they're cool, calm, and collected to make sandwiches.
mortonjag 2007-02-23 06:52:27
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 22 2007, 03:25 PM) [snapback]234807[/snapback]
Cool.
Vote Willlowman, multiple times.

When that came out he'd lose his deposit.
mortonjag 2007-02-23 06:55:28
QUOTE(Pat SharpTon @ Feb 22 2007, 03:55 PM) [snapback]234821[/snapback]
Fantastic post

Indeed-refreshing to find some facts on our forum.
mortonjag 2007-02-23 07:02:46
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Feb 22 2007, 04:08 PM) [snapback]234823[/snapback]
you have your own opinion I have mine

Theres a lets all hate the OF mentality throughout scottish football.

what i dont agree with is when you said "i reckon the OF should be allowed to play each other without a police presence from now on & let the c***s kick f*** out of each other, thats what they want after all."

aye...cos aw the weans n women with rangers and celtic tops on suddenly become bigots and want to fight their counterparts.

i know prodestant celtic fans...do they sit and sings sectarian chants about their own religion???

i doubt it, its just football for the majority of people

Every big club in the land has its scum following and its decent supporters-empty barrels make the most noise.
mortonjag 2007-02-23 07:16:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 23 2007, 03:05 AM) [snapback]234854[/snapback]
Gidday tigerjock,

ignorance is bliss, eh mate.

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif
Gidday mortonjag,

such replies must make your day.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Wot did Willie say ... none are so blind, etc
biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Gidday matey- are you talking about wee stripey dick-the one who rides the 'L' plated scooter and cannae use 'spell check'?

'Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings' indeed! mad.gif Stripey's posts sparkle with imaginitive originality--'When did you pop your cherry'?, he asks as he comes all over his mother's keyboard.

Well Sir, I'm just jealous I suppose. For today's fun I plan to knock some wee turd off his scooter with my rusting Zimmer as I hobble over to the chemist for my inco pads. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-23 09:36:41
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 23 2007, 08:36 AM) [snapback]234875[/snapback]
?

Sorry to have misled-I was adding MY comment in support of your post-I agree.
mortonjag 2007-02-23 09:59:35
QUOTE(tigerjock @ Feb 23 2007, 08:04 AM) [snapback]234870[/snapback]
Good to see you've been paying attention mortonjag although it must take some time for it all to sink in nowadays.

Some of us do have a life old bean and other interests apart from being a non-entity who likes nothing better than trying to prove he has a superior intellect on a football message board...how sad.
Are you not meant to get wiser as you get older.

Did you forget to spell check cannot ?

Newton what has prompted your sarcasm, i don't seem to remember you having an issue with my goodself

Ooh-shut your mouth NewTon-for wee 'stripey dick' it's all about 'ISSUES'.

Ta for the support cobber!

Right Stripey, let's deal with your 'ISSUES'.

1/ I always pay attention-it comes naturally to a superior intellect. It does take a little longer to sink in nowadays-I'm embarrassed by your insight into geriatric sexuality.

2/ I don't envy your life or other interests-I've always believed that youth is wasted on the young.

3/ NONENTITY is not a hyphenated word.

4/ I have two University degrees-from a PROPER University-proof of my superior intellect pre-existed your unfortunate conception.

5/ In my experience most people grow wiser as they age. I doubt, however, if they are 'MEANT' to.

6/ 'Cannae' is the Scots dialect word for 'cannot', which I deliberately used to attune with the vulgarity of your vocabulary, and the repeated misspelling in your original post.


I'm off to do some painting now.

Have a nice day, and don't bother with the 'skid lid'! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-23 10:04:40
QUOTE(Cockney_Reject @ Feb 23 2007, 09:58 AM) [snapback]234884[/snapback]
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

Anytime something of this nature happens the whole sectarianism debate it is dusted down and slevered over at great velocity. Anti-sectarians froth from the mouth whilst delivering their points but we've heard it all before. I'm not going to say where I stand as it will only add to the boredom thus spiraling it out of control and turn this thread into a six pager.

My insonmnia has been cured.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

Are you Cardinal Winning perchance-or did he snuff and it's a new one? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-23 10:08:23 Standman, and Forza, oh and Sammy Pepys.

Long time now since the Alamo began!
mortonjag 2007-02-23 10:09:43
QUOTE(Edinton @ Feb 22 2007, 03:40 PM) [snapback]234811[/snapback]
Would you two old boys stop tormenting the kids, they obviously can't cope with your rapier wit and sparkling repartee...

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mortonjag 2007-02-23 10:11:43
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 22 2007, 03:36 PM) [snapback]234810[/snapback]
today he's on 58 posts, which is 14.91% of all posts.

jesus h. christ.

F*ck me gently-not THE Jesus Christ-didn't realise he was working for Royal Mail.
mortonjag 2007-02-23 10:54:27
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 23 2007, 10:21 AM) [snapback]234895[/snapback]
Feck me i'm bored.

Googled mortonjag.

Uglier than I expected.

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDFor your information, I'm very happy with my 31 year old partner, but there again you won't be reading this, so you won't need to check its veracity!
mortonjag 2007-02-23 11:07:47
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 23 2007, 11:04 AM) [snapback]234901[/snapback]
You are a silly old fool at times.
I have NEVER put anyone on ignore, I don't do petted lips.
As stated, I am extremely bored this morning, and to spend about 5 seconds googling your nom de plome wasn't much 'bother'.
Only looking for a bit o yer banter you knife weilding professional ned.
That monkey is never 31.

Correct-THAT Monkey's my 'ex', and will be 14 tomorrow.
mortonjag 2007-02-23 11:21:25
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Nov 7 2005, 12:08 PM) [snapback]53983[/snapback]
"Kevin Finlayson is probably THE MOST crucial team member we have at present. Why do some fans give him a hard time?"

That came from a Morton director on Saturday after the game.

Not aimed at you MJ, just his detractors in general.

And this is not aimed at you either Bob-Barbarossa just mentioned this old post so I had a wee read.

In recent times, I am one of few who's stood up for Kev. He's superb at what he does best, but is now effectively forgotten.

Would all of those who voted massively against my proposition (Regarding his playing wide right) now like to re-read the post and have a wee laugh at themselves.
mortonjag 2007-02-23 11:26:01
QUOTE(upaclose @ Feb 23 2007, 11:12 AM) [snapback]234906[/snapback]
Meaning " I suffer from erectile disfunction so even if my grey, decaying body was able to pull an equally ageing munter I wouldn't be able to do anything about it. Still, I'm zimmering off to the Doc's now to get my prostrate twanged. So every cloud...."

I could quote the old jealousy thing-I certainly don't spend my nights up a close-but there again-a very funny post !! laugh.gif wub.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-23 11:28:33
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 23 2007, 11:22 AM) [snapback]234910[/snapback]
There is no place in modern society for a right handed salute. Unfortunately, there are morons throughout Europe who persist in doing this. It always amazes me when you see footage of some (probably a minority) of English hooligans changing from a right handed salute to a dambuster pose!

I think it would be churlish not to give Rangers some credit as when watching the game last night there were thousand of Saltire and Union flags. The strip even has a saltire on the shoulder. At least there is an attempt to have a Scottish identity. I think this should be applauded and not saluted!

Due credit!
mortonjag 2007-02-23 12:25:04
QUOTE(suda @ Feb 23 2007, 11:53 AM) [snapback]234917[/snapback]
I'm not going to vote in a poll like this because I don't think it's very constructive for a players ability to be disected that way. He has done well coming off the bench lately and I hope his form continues to improve he's also looking a bit stronger and less likely to be bullied out of it so all positive signs that maybe show the competition for places in the squad is healthy.

I have absolutely no intention of resurrecting the poll Suda-I was simply highlighting the shortness of some folks' memories.

From day one JM played Kev in a position that frankly made him look daft (and JM too, IMO, given Finlayson's previous role at Stranraer), but eighty odd percent tried to justify what has proved to be a mistake.

If Kevin was used properly he would be, and WOULD HAVE BEEN in the starting eleven.
mortonjag 2007-02-23 12:26:29
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 23 2007, 12:24 PM) [snapback]234924[/snapback]
Tontastic is generously hosting the site. I purchased the new board licence.

I had to sell my scissors to afford it, y'see.

Moderator in cutting comment.
mortonjag 2007-02-23 12:36:37
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 23 2007, 12:29 PM) [snapback]234928[/snapback]
mortonjag can still post tongue.gif

Correctamundo mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-23 12:43:40
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 23 2007, 10:25 AM) [snapback]234896[/snapback]
We have enough junkies thank you very much.
Not a welcome scumbag.

f***, that is all we need. A national junkie icon in a ton top.

He certainly seems hell bent on self destruction. Whether the fact that he's throwing away his undoubted talent is wicked, or just very pitiable is debatable.

One thing's for sure, when a man's down, he's always seen as fair game for a good kicking.
mortonjag 2007-02-23 12:45:08
QUOTE(Edinton @ Feb 23 2007, 12:41 PM) [snapback]234930[/snapback]
Yeah yeah, very sharp...

Shall I trim the fringe Sir?
mortonjag 2007-02-23 12:46:40
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 23 2007, 12:45 PM) [snapback]234933[/snapback]
He's a prick.

... and two balls...
mortonjag 2007-02-23 13:54:34
QUOTE(Edinton @ Feb 23 2007, 12:51 PM) [snapback]234935[/snapback]
Arf arf!

Wot-jist arf like Alex Kapranos Sir?
mortonjag 2007-02-23 13:57:31
QUOTE(leyTON @ Feb 23 2007, 01:21 PM) [snapback]234947[/snapback]
mortonjag when i said to rip into newton i was only joking lol
im not a bird newton
i take offence to that!

But you profess to be a 'ley' !!
mortonjag 2007-02-23 13:59:36
QUOTE(leyTON @ Feb 23 2007, 01:39 PM) [snapback]234956[/snapback]
in a competely unrelated topic deego are you on in school or just having a day to yourself lol

Both!
mortonjag 2007-02-23 14:01:49
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Feb 23 2007, 01:45 PM) [snapback]234958[/snapback]
Couldn't have put it better myself. Well said Mortonjag (4183 posts and counting...)

probably more by now but thanks for the 4184th wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-23 15:42:31
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Feb 23 2007, 02:18 PM) [snapback]234967[/snapback]
laugh.gif ach well, somethings havent changed wink.gif

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mortonjag 2007-02-23 15:44:36
QUOTE(1insert_player_here @ Feb 23 2007, 03:42 PM) [snapback]234980[/snapback]
Kevin played wide right for Stranraer though. blink.gif

mortonjag talking s***e? Surely not.

He may have started games on the right, but he played as an agressive attacking midfielder, and was allowed to act as a playmaker.

He also scored quite a few goals!
mortonjag 2007-02-23 15:48:12
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Feb 23 2007, 02:24 PM) [snapback]234968[/snapback]
Cough Cough, shouldnt have started this thread by the looks of it, then again, havent laughed so much in ages wink.gif

Don't know what YOU'RE laughing at-starting a thread just so that folk can poke fun at me-you KNEW this would happen-I take things like this VERY seriously-mark my words. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-23 15:50:21
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Feb 23 2007, 02:39 PM) [snapback]234969[/snapback]
Anyone know someplace in Greenock I can get them done?

Abandoning the sinking ship? sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-23 15:52:50
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 23 2007, 03:46 PM) [snapback]234984[/snapback]
What a fanny George Foulkes is. Emphasized that it's significant that although the leaders of the SNP, Tories and LibDems were there, Jack McConnell chickened out of facing up to Alex Salmond once again.

Once again Alex showed that he's head and shoulders above any of the other leaders - he's well-informed, personable, reasonable and could tear to ribbons any arguments put forward by the others.

Thought there was going to be a punch up at one point though....

When it comes to Fannies-well there are Fannies....and Fannies.

I do agree, however, jumped up cooncillor Foulkes is a true Fanny among Fannies.
mortonjag 2007-02-24 07:11:24
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 23 2007, 06:27 PM) [snapback]235021[/snapback]
You agree? I was at the kidding, a wee bit of irony an that, ya know ? biggrin.gif

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mortonjag 2007-02-24 07:13:20 The forecast-a thoroughly miserable journey down. Sunshine by kickoff time, and this is the day when the Ton 'go to town'. We will win 7 - 0.
mortonjag 2007-02-24 07:20:11
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 23 2007, 08:58 PM) [snapback]235092[/snapback]
mortonjag - that's quite simply not true.

I asked the Stranraer fans a couple of weeks back on P&B where he played for them and to a man they said as an out and out winger.

I posted a link if you want me to find it again?

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You may be correct, but funnily enough I got my information from Stranraer fans about the time of this thread. They couldn't understand what had happened to a guy whom they claimed was most potent when running aggressively towards goal 'as an attacking midfielder'.

I also remember VIVIDLY that when he was signed, he was described by the Scapa insiders as an attacking midfielder.

Given those comments, and the evidence of our own eyes, I stand strongly by my original claims.

I also feel that he has now been 'left out in the cold'.
mortonjag 2007-02-24 07:22:07
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Feb 23 2007, 07:49 PM) [snapback]235062[/snapback]
Noticed on the back of tonights Tele there is a mention for Alex, Dean, Ryan Russell from Jim McInally as they are finding it hard to break into the 1st team due to lack of injuries and suspension (which is a good sign).

WHAT-NO SMILEY?

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mortonjag 2007-02-24 07:23:36
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 23 2007, 09:16 PM) [snapback]235097[/snapback]
Why hasn't he mentioned the loss of form by some players who are never dropped. As I said previous its a bad system and in a higher division these things will get us hung .

I think JM IS being honest. Equally I don't think he's all that bright at times.
mortonjag 2007-02-24 07:32:33
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 23 2007, 09:54 PM) [snapback]235113[/snapback]
The reason people had a go at Templeman , was after giving him the benefit of the doubt in his first season he proceeded to carry on with his poor form . He was deservedly dropped because he wasn't showing in games or in training . When he turned things around even JM commented that he was finally working hard in training and this was paying off in games .
This said that he had the capability but never showed it , some treat him like a diety I still believe he has realised unless he got his finger out his next contract would not be so lucritive whether it be here or at another club .
Jamie has made the step to full time football and must therefore be allowed the same grace as Templeman to adjust . Obviously playing in a unfamiliar role doesn't help and even when he was in his favoured position the weather conditions weren't suited to playing football .
We may find next season that teams will play more and we will not get outnumbered in the middle as in this league .

'Today I (Sanny), have decided to proceed with my poor form'!

After all I'm a canny Fifer earning a huge wage for this division, AND I've got a contract, so easy street, here we go!

C'mon Chris-he's a big shy lad-everything was just too much, and there were no experienced 'old heads', to help.

Stevenson's situation is similar. You can blame his 'unfamiliar role, and unfavourable conditions, but the truth is it's 'All in his head'.

Why is NOBODY at Scapa able to sort those things. Do they need a bloody sports counsellor?
mortonjag 2007-02-24 07:41:49
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 23 2007, 03:50 PM) [snapback]234988[/snapback]
I bet you that combat trained soldier Argyllston is now s***ting himself that an old geezer from Glasgow is gonna waste him.

Enough of the 'Glasgow' you tank straddling tosser.
mortonjag 2007-02-24 07:47:05
QUOTE(tigerjock @ Feb 23 2007, 06:55 PM) [snapback]235029[/snapback]
Seems i'm not alone in thinking you are a grade one cooont.
Like the bit regarding the cannae bait dangle.....lol....must try harder...was that a result of your superior education

Must have mist err i mean missed the grooming debate.

As for being happy with your 31year old partner..maybe but is she happy with you, plenty of young ruff who can out black n decker an opinionated ( Spell check please ) old fag like you, i'd imagine the coversation is riveting,what a way for a young lady to spend her life, does this relate in any way to grooming ???

Now of you toddle oh wise old owl, horlicks and slipper time and don't forget to go for a run out dont want you wetting the bed again

You have a beautiful turn of phrase I must admit!

'Young ruff who can out Black and Decker an opinionated old fag' is commendable for its vulgarity.

Just so happened my partner realised that most of the said young 'ruff', are just that-young, and rough. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-24 07:51:41
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 23 2007, 07:28 PM) [snapback]235046[/snapback]
Nor is it CAPITALISED.
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Capitals are used to HIGHLIGHT words.

One should not require two degrees from a PROPER university in order to understand the rudiments of the English language. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-24 07:56:39
QUOTE(tigerjock @ Feb 23 2007, 07:53 PM) [snapback]235063[/snapback]
Don't know what YOU'RE laughing at-starting a thread just so that folk can poke fun at me-you KNEW this would happen-I take things like this VERY seriously-mark my words.

This post has been edited by mortonjag: Today, 03:48 PM

FFS...you only typed 32 words and you had to edit the post

The use of capitals to put ones point accross is a bit like the small man who drives a large and powerfull car....wee knob

I frequently simplify my posts-'When in Rome' as they say.

I also edit frequently, to save embarrassing gaffes like POWERFULL.


Fernando Alonso is a small man who drives a large and powerful car-stripey dick.
mortonjag 2007-02-24 08:04:36 Many breeders will let their pedigree bitches go to good homes when they've stopped breeding.

You're effectively guaranteed a great pet, and they usually only ask for a donation. The only down side is that the're nearing half way through their lifespan.

My Mum got her black lab this way several years ago-we've had numerous labs in the extended family over the years, and Gemma's proved to be the best of the lot.
mortonjag 2007-02-24 08:09:30
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 24 2007, 07:39 AM) [snapback]235162[/snapback]
So far, Jack McConnell has refused to debate with Salmond 7 times.

Since he becames First Minister, he has refused invites to appear on Question Time 15 times !! ohmy.gif

Maybe because the Scots drink too much.
mortonjag 2007-02-24 11:04:10
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Feb 24 2007, 10:12 AM) [snapback]235196[/snapback]
No mystery. In my opinion it's largely down to the exagerrated expectations of our fans and the pressure they put on young, promising players. mad.gif

Only a fool would argue with that itchy baws, but it doesn't account for the mysterious positional changes, and managerial instructions.

Furthermore it's happened to several players-the ones discussed here are not alone. I never really admired the guy, but James mcPake came here from an SPL side, and couldn't cut the mustard-just to cite an example. Alex Walker, and Kevin Finlayson also fit the bill.
mortonjag 2007-02-24 19:20:11
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 24 2007, 05:10 PM) [snapback]235352[/snapback]
McInally must go !!!!!
just thought i'd get in first before the usual " i know everything" brigade get back !! smile.gif smile.gif

Guess I'm one of the first back, and I've already calmed down.

Greacen was blatantly backed into by Moore before their 1st goal, and they took the chance. The second was a defensive cock up. They had TWO other shots on goal.

We were well ahead in footballing terms, but until JM realises that a football team can not consist SOLELY of inexperienced young midfielders, this will keep happening. Sanny was excellent-numerous inviting flicks on, but of course our striker wasn't brought on 'til it was FAR too late. Gowser played well in bursts but he's not an out and out striker.

A final point-everybody's talking about Stevenson needing his confidence boosted, and McInally subs HIM, when apart from about three nice touches, Millar was anonymous, as was McAlister.
mortonjag 2007-02-25 07:59:07
QUOTE(McInally`s Monkey @ Feb 24 2007, 03:06 PM) [snapback]235237[/snapback]
Is a winger not an attacking midfielder???

No, a winger is a winger.
mortonjag 2007-02-25 08:02:36 We should have had Stranraer dead and buried long before the nervousness crept into the defence.

If you want to blame somebody, he was , as usual, SITTING in the 'dug out', going 'DUM'??? mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-25 08:05:35
QUOTE(farpost @ Feb 25 2007, 12:37 AM) [snapback]235599[/snapback]
These last couple of months, there must have been dozens of posts that could be tied into (selections and positions). Now I know it's easier to 'overlook/forget' bad performances and tactics etc. when we win but todays result has brought them back again. I wasn't at the game today, but from reading what has been said it appears to have been more of the same of late.

1. We should have been 3/4 up by half time again. 2. Miller in midfield - crap again. 3. Stevenson on the wing - wasted again. 4. Why was so and so subbed etc. The point I'm making is why, when so many of us see and comment on these points do they still repeat themselves again and again. Why e.g. did we put out the same team against Ayr at home and then Stranraer away. Even in div 2 it should be horses for courses. courses.
What goes through our younger players minds when they see e.g. Miller and McAlister who has hadly kicked a ball all season (forwards) only being subbed once. We may not be ex. players, coaches or whatever yet we still make the same points week after week. Am I/are we missing something altogether hear?

You're missing NOTHING farpost-yet again we were mugged, yet again I blame one man, and yet again I'll be told we're top of the league and he's God incarnate.

Four points from four league matches from a full time squad speaks volumes.
mortonjag 2007-02-25 08:13:41
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 25 2007, 12:40 AM) [snapback]235600[/snapback]
I'd say our lack of clean sheets is down to the defence far more than the goalkeeper, in particular Stewart Greacen, who has been abysmal for a good while now.

We were 1-0 up and for a team 10 points clear at the top playing a team at the bottom of the table that should be enough to grind out a win. A striker scored for Morton today, the defenders didn't defend well enough.

Our excellent defensive record is a mask that hides the deficencies of our defence. They will be well and truely found it in the first division if they aren't already starting to get found out now.

Greacen is a competent defender at 2nd division level. He's played some blinders for us, and some he'd like to forget.

'Mr consistency' is our hallowed manager-you claim a 'striker' scored yesterday-and an excellent goal too, which set us up for a comfortable victory against a side who managed FOUR direct shots on target.

Sitting twiddling his thumbs on the bench was one of the best strikers in the league.

Aye JonaTon- big Sanny's a striker, but since Del was stupidly allowed away prematurely, he's now equally good as the target man, and there was NOT ONE SOUL to play off him yesterday.
mortonjag 2007-02-25 08:18:36
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 25 2007, 01:09 AM) [snapback]235605[/snapback]
Anyone notice the substitutes today sad.gif

All so predictable and in my opinion the wrong choices. I wouldn't have taken Stevenson off (Millar for me) and I wouldn't have put Linn on (Keenan for me).

Aye Keenan scores barrowloads-are you for real-I agree entirely about Millar, but we DESPERATELY needed somebody to feed of our MOTM yesterday. I could not BELIEVE the number of balls Sanny won.

A sharp striker should have been on at half time. By then the signs were showing. Deano's a good lad, but not what we needed yesterday.
mortonjag 2007-02-25 08:23:47
QUOTE(1insert_player_here @ Feb 24 2007, 07:23 PM) [snapback]235393[/snapback]
According to SportBox both teams had 9 attempts at goal, Stranraer had 6 ON TARGET, Morton had 2 ON TARGET.

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We scored two (one chalked off), and their goalie had two good saves.

They had two which Mathers saved and scored two.

In the scramble leading up to their goals they may have directed the ball goalwards a couple of times.

When I talk about shots on target, I mean proper 'shots'-genuine goalbound chances.
mortonjag 2007-02-25 08:26:45
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 24 2007, 09:14 PM) [snapback]235444[/snapback]
That sort of thing is a big part of Moores game , to me he is the best in the league with his back to goal . JM's undying loyalty to some really perplexes at times . I like Chris but it is fair to say he has had a bad spell we have adaquate cover to replce him . Whether it be Stevenson wide and Walker infield or bring Finlayson wide and put Jamie inside .
Now this is the bit that concerns me , JM seems to believe that we will score enough goals without starting with Linn . He is showing favour to a lad on loan from Celtic above our own player . This will have ramifications for the start of next season as we aren't guarenteed McGowan will return .
Once again we are pegged back , I still believe we will go up but things could have been made easier in the process . I don't go along with thats the Morton way on this is the situations we have come to expect because we have had deficenies in the experience of coaching or players.

Gowser was by no means bad yesterday, but he's NOT a striker-why JM couldn't see the need for Linn to come on by half time defeats logic.
mortonjag 2007-02-25 08:36:36 One thing's for sure, JM won't be panicking.

I've not read any of his post match quotes yet, but they will be as predictable as ever.

(He may even admit he made ANOTHER mistake).

'We just have to keep going and grind out results 'til the end of the season, and hopefully we'll accumulate enough points to get promotion' seems to be the favourite.

I stand by what I've said all season-we WILL win promotion in spite of, not because of him. He lacks the imagination of a five year old schoolkid.

mortonjag 2007-02-25 08:42:11
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 25 2007, 02:36 AM) [snapback]235625[/snapback]
Mathers - 6
Weatherson - 6
MacGregor - 6
Harding - 6
Greacen - 5
McLaughlin - 7
Millar - 6
Stevenson - 8
Templeman - 7
McGowan - 7
McAlister - 6

Stevenson was my man of the match. He had Stranraer's whole left hand side in knots for a while and they were all going nuts at each other and blaming each other for Stevenson taking them on. His withdrawal took the impetus from our game. What was McInally thinking taking him off, I think he was thinking it was time for the same sub he makes every single week.

I don't like ratings-just a chance to vote for favourites.

I thought Spoonsy, Millar, Greacen, and McAlister were poor.

Sanny was my MOTM, while Jamie and Gowser had good games.

I thought the others were all reasonable.
mortonjag 2007-02-25 09:01:16 Millar may be fair game for the scapegoat hunters, but the real culprit was sitting in the dug out scratching head and arse simultaneously.

His frequently closed eyes may have indicated fruitless acts of supplication.
mortonjag 2007-02-25 09:17:55 Jim, you've spent all your life alongside quality managers and players, and tasted a fair bit of success.

You have been honest with us, and have assembled a squad of talented super fit youngsters, and all credit to them, and you, for thrilling us in games like that against Killie.

Now is the time to get streetwise.

It's the second division Jim-not the Champions League, and ultimately it's goals that win points, not glossy powder puff exhibitions of midfield excellence.

Four points from four matches is far from satisfactory, and includes two classical 'muggings' from Brechin and Stranraer.

Yesterday, you listed five 'subs', all of whom would get a regular game elsewhere.

C'mon man, wake up and smell the coffee before it's too late-be a devil-do a bit of mix and match.

Let's face it Jim, your philosophy of sticking faithfully with your 'best players' just isn't working right now.

mortonjag 2007-02-25 09:22:46
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 24 2007, 10:37 AM) [snapback]235198[/snapback]
Two degrees and you completely miss the POINT rolleyes.gif

Sorry mate, you're miles behind-I MISS NOTHING. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-25 09:27:29
QUOTE(tigerjock @ Feb 24 2007, 12:03 PM) [snapback]235208[/snapback]
The only vulgarity is your pompous, arrogant manner, good to see you spotted the spelling mistake though.

Keep thinking about the young and rough, as i'm sure once you vacat the premises, a young chap will be the focus of your insurance money.

Once I VACATE the premises, I'll get recycled from a big wooden box stripey. Who knows where my most efficient bits will end up!

What happens after that is none of my business.

Mind you I hope that 'young chap's able to match my impeccable standards in ALL matters, or he won't see a brass threepenny. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-25 09:35:26 Shaun Dillon put Gordon f*ckin' Ramsay to shame.

I don't think I've ever heard the word so many times so loudly in a football match-Aye Shaun-we know you F*CKIN' won an a'!
mortonjag 2007-02-25 09:40:55
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 25 2007, 09:35 AM) [snapback]235656[/snapback]
I admit that some of the goals we have lost recently have been howlers but no matter how good your defence is, there is always a risk they will ship a goal no matter the level of opposition. Yesterday, we should have been about 4 up by half time and if that had happened there would have been no pressure on the defence and they would probably have had a clean sheet.

As it was, yet again late in the match we found the opposition still very much in the game and the nerves crept in and thats when the mistakes happen. Somehow we need to find a way of converting a higher percentage of our chances. Its not as if yesterday they were half chances - they were clear cut and we missed them all. I think Stranraer's keeper had one save to make the whole game.

I agree Sir-how's the counting house this fine morning BTW?

You are, however, simply stating the obvious to any with a scrape of intelligence-what's the solution?

It's too late to sack Mastermind this season-can he be persuaded to stop battering his head of his theoretical wall, open his eyes, and use some imagination?
mortonjag 2007-02-25 09:44:20
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 24 2007, 11:12 PM) [snapback]235564[/snapback]
Walker is miles better a player than Kevin Finlayson. Sometimes yer face just doesn't fit.

Rubbish oh fuzzy one-Walker's a winger-Kev's an enigma at the moment.

That said, when Walker could be bothered, he was by any standards a decent player.
mortonjag 2007-02-25 09:46:24
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 25 2007, 09:43 AM) [snapback]235660[/snapback]
Someone voted for Millar again in the MOM poll dry.gif

Players are allowed on the forum.
mortonjag 2007-02-25 09:50:57
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 25 2007, 09:47 AM) [snapback]235667[/snapback]
I agree, we have a squad and if you look at successful teams such as Celtic, Man Utd, Chelsea, they all use their squads on a horses for courses basis and also to keep things fresh. We seem to put the same team out week after week when it is clear that some players need a rest to recover their form. That does not mean they are bad players, just that they are part of a squad and it should be used on that basis.

On another front, we played 15 league games prior to Mathers arriving and conceded 11 goals. Since he arrived, we have played 11 games and conceded 13. We have'nt had a clean sheet in 2007 and the average conceded is creeping close to 2 goals a game. As the prime reason for his signing was to tighten up the defence, it would seem to me that he has failed.

Me, I would use him as the goalkeeping coach and bring McGurn back in. I think McGurn would have saved some of the goals Mathers has lost as he is a far better shot stopper although I will concede that we have dealt with set pieces better since Mathers arrived.

Hee, hee, Tonsilitis-you and your bloody figures again.

Since Bobby Linn arrived he's only scored one goal-it would seem, therefore, that he's a f*cking useless striker!
mortonjag 2007-02-25 10:44:45
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 25 2007, 10:33 AM) [snapback]235687[/snapback]
The only bright point in a dark day. Was at Murrayfield yesterday. mad.gif
Got back having seen the footie scores. mad.gif mad.gif

Saw some of the first half and the whole second half from Croke park. Great game, the Irish may well rue their poor showing aginst the French.

Well I suppose you made the right choice, in that you'd have been back sooner after a waste of money.

How often do you watch the Ton BTW?
mortonjag 2007-02-25 17:52:42
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 25 2007, 11:17 AM) [snapback]235695[/snapback]
Are you for real ? I wasn't talking about bringing him on to score goals . Later in the game when it became obvious that Stranraer were starting to push on it might have been beneficial to bring him on to try and break things up and get stuck in. Rather than have Linn running about up front doing nothing much.

No I'm not for real-I'm just kidding to wind you up you daft twat. rolleyes.gif

If JM had done the OBVIOUS to anyone with half a brain, we'd have been two or three up before the need to 'Break things up'-ya clown.

mortonjag 2007-02-25 17:57:00
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 25 2007, 11:23 AM) [snapback]235697[/snapback]
Are you serious? You think Finlayson is a better player than Walker? Are you mental?

Are you at it, or can you not read? I agreed with you!

I AM mental, mind.
mortonjag 2007-02-25 17:59:56
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 25 2007, 04:33 PM) [snapback]235801[/snapback]
Aye, he looked more of a player than our forwards. A part timer too, his 'real' job is in the fire service.

Along with Hosey Quitongo?
mortonjag 2007-02-25 18:05:28
QUOTE(princessTON @ Feb 25 2007, 11:36 AM) [snapback]235701[/snapback]
in the news of the world the ratings where this:

mathers 7
weatherson 7
mcgregor 7
harding 7
greacen 8
mclaughlin 7
millar 8 blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif
stevenson 8
templeman 8
mcgowan 9
mcalister 7

Same in the Scottish Sunday Mail-didn't know Midge was a part time hack.
mortonjag 2007-02-25 18:08:41
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Feb 25 2007, 11:26 AM) [snapback]235699[/snapback]
Sorry to disappoint mj but I'm not looking for scapegoats, just expressing an opinion on our lack of midfield bite. I take it you've got over your honeymoon with JM now.

Indeed, he was as predictable and boring in bed as he is sleeping in the dugout.
mortonjag 2007-02-25 18:15:10
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Feb 25 2007, 05:21 PM) [snapback]235811[/snapback]
And goals don't help win you points in the champions league? blink.gif

Or are you saying Barcelona or Man Utd wouldn't win the Scottish second division because the football they play is too nice? huh.gif

I'm saying football is not played at all in this s***ey cluggers' league.
mortonjag 2007-02-25 18:22:23
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 25 2007, 03:49 PM) [snapback]235791[/snapback]
points excepted laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2007-02-25 19:18:29
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 25 2007, 06:08 PM) [snapback]235841[/snapback]
'Half a Brain' - that description suits you down to the ground.

It's clear for anyone to see that you are a senile old c*** who thinks he has a great knowledge of football and how the game is played when in reality what you know about football could be written on the back of a postage stamp with a felt tip pen.

That's more like it!

BTW I've replied to your PM. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-25 19:19:57
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 25 2007, 12:58 PM) [snapback]235743[/snapback]
The easiest ground to get in to without paying full price, I only paid £5 and so did quite a lot of people behind me. So how much did you get in for?

Spot the criminal mentality! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-25 19:24:48
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 25 2007, 07:03 PM) [snapback]235874[/snapback]
Yaaaaaaaawwwwwwnnnnnn !!!!!!!
we lost a game, and what do we get ? same old s***e from the same old people. dry.gif dry.gif
he shouldn't play there, he shouldn't play here, he should be dropped, he should be picked, he needs to be dragged into a forest & shot. ect ect dry.gif dry.gif

everyones a f***ing expert cos they've listened to andy gray & played championship manager, here's a newsflash, YOU'RE NOT EXPERTS, truth is you know f*** all about tactics & man managment, that's why your all standing on the terracing watching the game !! mad.gif mad.gif

Here's another newsflash-beermonkey's AN EXPERT-he knows everything about tactics and man management-and he KNOWS all of us who think differently from him are wrong.

Stick to the beer-Monkey. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-25 19:29:58
QUOTE(lush @ Feb 25 2007, 06:38 PM) [snapback]235859[/snapback]
Saab. wink.gif

Gave up the Jag-Jags are for old fags.

Gave up the MG-useless in winter.

Saab convertible has the lot, and Munx says it's really comfy in the back. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-25 19:32:19
QUOTE(bigstu22 @ Feb 25 2007, 07:25 PM) [snapback]235886[/snapback]
He should take a step up the next rung and sign for Morton

Boo Brigade would fire insults.
mortonjag 2007-02-25 19:49:21
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 25 2007, 07:34 PM) [snapback]235890[/snapback]
i dont pretent to know everything, unlike most! smile.gif

Well that's good.

Your post is 'old hat' and I'm afraid-you're now well in the minority.

You claim 'it's the same old posters saying the same old things' when in truth, we now have very little of the 'We're top of the league so he MUST be good' pish that followed the 'Taxi for McInally' thread.

I deplore the argument that BECAUSE he's manager he MUST be right, and many guys who have been watching, (some who have been actively involved in professonal football themselves), MUST be wrong if they disagree.

You don't have to conduct the London Symphony Orchestra in order to spot a bum note.
mortonjag 2007-02-25 19:53:31
QUOTE(stuart @ Feb 25 2007, 07:39 PM) [snapback]235893[/snapback]
Yeah, I always liked him. Fire engine.

Awaiting news from Trumpton.
mortonjag 2007-02-25 20:02:28
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Feb 25 2007, 07:54 PM) [snapback]235898[/snapback]
You lot are nothing but a crowd of bottle merchants. We were never going to win this league at a canter.

We are where we are because of the team on the park and the team off the park. Instead of moaning and groaning and second guessing everything that goes on why don't you get behind the team for a change.

If you put as much energy into supporting the team when they play as you do moaning on here we would be world beaters.
The team failed yesterday because they gave up fighting on the park and had settled for the one goal. How different would it have been if the supporters had been singing and chanting and encouraging the team right to the end.

We can make a difference you know, and if we want to win this league then we the supporters have to do our bit off the park as well. And that doesn't include booing, jeering and shouting abuse at our own players.

The team got excellent support yesterday-if you were there I don't understand your post. Autographs were asked for and signed, and there was good natured banter with the subs as they played 'keepy uppy' at half time. Several hundred made that tedious journey down the A77 JUST to give their support, and I didn't hear any booing either.

Blaming the support's a 'cop out' at this stage in the season. If you don't see that there's something not quite right behind the scenes, then many of us will simply have to disagree.
mortonjag 2007-02-25 20:08:30 Fair points, but let's also be fair to the Livvy supporters, and not tar them all with a brush which should be reserved for the board.

It's not so long ago we had a Mr Scott here. That was not our fault.
mortonjag 2007-02-25 20:10:55 And? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-26 07:13:46 This thread seems so much more realistic than the 'taxi for McInally' one.

Funnily enough, not one single poster has come out and openly backed the manager, which shows a huge swing of opinion.

Those who have paid lip service to his defence by stating the obvious (that we're 7 points clear) must also accept the obvious (that we've got 4 points from our last 4 matches).

ManchesterTon, in his first post has said more politely what I've been saying all season-JM is anonymous during matches.

You can blame any number of factors for our present situation, and all will contribute to some degree, but the common factor is regular under performance, and only one person is PAID to fix that-JM.
mortonjag 2007-02-26 07:18:55
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Feb 26 2007, 12:51 AM) [snapback]236023[/snapback]
And we try to play the most 'football' and we're top of the league.

So what's your point?

That if we played LESS attractive (but unproductive) football, and did more CLUGGING when necessary, we'd be far further ahead.
mortonjag 2007-02-26 07:22:21
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 25 2007, 08:52 PM) [snapback]235920[/snapback]
You most definitely are.

Plagiarist mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-26 07:31:57 This thread is supposed to be about Mathers-well Mathers record speaks for itself. Davie McGurn is a reasonable keeper at division 2 level, but is relatively inexperienced.

Regarding central defence, I'm puzzled-I'm a fan of big Stu for his total commitment, but I think he's almost impossible to play alongside, and he and Hardy frequently end up going for the same ball, or leaving it for each other. When Mathers arrived that seemed to improve for a while, but better things haven't lasted.

I believe that the only way Stu could be really effective is to play alongside a traditional sweeper, rather than having a twin 'centre half'. That would mean dropping Hardy, OR dropping Stu and playing someone else.

Alex Walker's pretty adaptable, but he's a poor header of a ball. For me Harding could do a job with McGregor as sweeper-just a thought about the present set up-not a suggestion for division 1.
mortonjag 2007-02-26 07:35:15
QUOTE(GazTon @ Feb 26 2007, 12:47 AM) [snapback]236021[/snapback]
wuts aw yoor opinions?

a hink martch

How long is a piece of string?
mortonjag 2007-02-26 07:41:19 Talking of melons, I got a lovely juicy pair from the Coop yesterday-honeydews they were-lovely soft texture, and a perfect complement for the ham.

Very expensive right now, mind you.
mortonjag 2007-02-26 07:51:54 Many happy returns to

Laura, Piehutt, Edd, Davidh, and Mortonxno1

Edd -you're a man now-well done-today you are exactly one tenth the age of the Pound note.

A certain Mr Hitler was busy 71 years ago today-opening the first Volks Wagen factory.

Mr Hitler died many years ago, unlike his motor.
mortonjag 2007-02-26 09:14:49
QUOTE(Lindberg6 @ Feb 26 2007, 08:41 AM) [snapback]236053[/snapback]
I agree - Mathers record speaks for itself...............no clean sheets since December.

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mortonjag 2007-02-26 10:09:45
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 26 2007, 09:39 AM) [snapback]236058[/snapback]
I think the manner of our defeats against Brechin and Stranraer in a strange way gives me encouragement. Its not as if in these games we played badly. In both games we played the other team off the park for most of the game but could not score and we then got mugged. If we were not creating chances I would be a lot more worried.

Its the failure to score when we are so dominent which is the worry and thats not a new problem - we've seen it over the last few seasons and McInally has tried a lot of options to cure it - Templeman, McPake, McGowan, Linn, McLaren, Jason Walker, etc. Why is that players who score for fun at other clubs can't do it when they pull on a Morton shirt? I am not sure that McInally can be held accountable for players who would normally score to miss sitters. At the start of the season you would have put money on McGowan to score his one on one with the keeper on Saturday and if we had gone 2 up it would have been match over.

As for McInally looking disinterested during games, I think that is rubbish. I sit in the stand close to the home dugout and he constantly issues instructions and advice to players through games. What he does'nt do is stand and shout at players in the bad mouthed way of Jeffries or Connor (not that that does him a lot of good) I think he might be guilty of treating his players like adults and personally I think that is a good thing. If I have a criticism, is his failure to use his pool to best effect and allowing jaded players to play wek in week out.


If, as you suggest, he IS constantly issuing instructions and advice, it plainly hasn't been working. Looked at either way it's a failure by the manager to get the end product from the players. I DON'T know why it happens so often, but it's ultimately down to the manager to fix it or go elsewhere IMO.
mortonjag 2007-02-26 10:14:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 26 2007, 10:00 AM) [snapback]236059[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

only 7 cents a kilogram here.

Should I give a couple to WDE for you ?

huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif

Eh-Asda are charging a whacking £1.80 for a large Honeydew. I got two in the 'Co' as a 'bargain' at £2.50.

Trouble is I just can't resist big juicy melons.

WDE could do a Barry Humphries on the way home-what an excellent idea-if he flies over Jordan she'll be quite put out!
mortonjag 2007-02-26 10:43:25
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 26 2007, 10:30 AM) [snapback]236067[/snapback]
What you say was true last season and before - however this season I have hardly seen Chris lose a single header. He still falls over a lot, but he's ten times the player he was. He used to be a wimp but now he's throwing his weight around a bit. I'd say it's probably between him and Spoonsy for the player of the season so far, although many will no doubt vote for Gowser (who is skilful, but let's just say I can't see him breaking into the Celtic first team any time soon).

JM clearly can't see past Gowser. He's a great wee player but is NOT a striker. I could hardly believe the number of knock-ons and flicks from Sanny that went -a begging- on Saturday while Bobby Linn sat watching.

I'm beginning to think our manager is pig headed, or thick. Perhaps he's both. His reluctance to do the obvious in favour of his palpably failing 'master plan' is disingenuous to say the least.

I agree with the others-of course we can't win EVERY game.

Nor should we need to throw games away. It's one thing being beaten fairly and squarely by the better side on the day, and totally different to be streets ahead on ability and lose.

That is McInally's specialty, and I am sick of it.
mortonjag 2007-02-26 10:46:50
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 26 2007, 10:41 AM) [snapback]236069[/snapback]
Stop having a go at JM.

It's NOT his fault !!!

He was born that way laugh.gif

Then regressed? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-26 10:48:18
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Feb 26 2007, 10:27 AM) [snapback]236066[/snapback]
Digs - £150

Car - £700

Pay the rest of my holiday - £130

Money for my savings account I started last month - £150

Burtons Card - £50

Night out on the 10th - £40

Having no money by about 2 days after payday and contemplating selling both kidneys, both testicles and atleast one of my eyes in exchange for a can of strongbow - PRICELESS

Car £700-you're taking us for a ride! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-26 10:54:51 I dislike actors in general, and particularly Hollywood hype and glitz.

I haven't got any favourites; in my experience most of them live in a celluloid vacuum, and cope poorly with reality.

Still, I'm in the minority, and they give pleasure to millions of folk.
mortonjag 2007-02-26 11:34:23
QUOTE(ton_1874 @ Feb 26 2007, 10:58 AM) [snapback]236077[/snapback]
Get McGurn back in goal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Frankly I don't think it matters one bit which is in goal right now-it's total speculation whether of not Davie would have performed any better, but he's an OK goalie. The problems lie elsewhere.
mortonjag 2007-02-26 11:38:19
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Feb 26 2007, 11:15 AM) [snapback]236080[/snapback]
on some level i agree with you here, i dont know any actors though to be able to tell if their dicks or not.

its just a job though, if someone was a good plumber youd recommend them to friends if they have a broken bog so its the same with actors. some actors are better than others and thats what I rate them on

I take your point, though I have a feeling that in general those who are 'best at the job' are those who are worst at living in reality.
mortonjag 2007-02-26 11:40:51
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Feb 26 2007, 11:16 AM) [snapback]236081[/snapback]
wink.gif its a motability car so i get it mucho cheap

Wait 'til you have to change it thrax-motability will hump you for every little scratch and mark.

I guess you're talking about an all inclusive monthly package, and not just repayments.
mortonjag 2007-02-26 11:46:07
QUOTE(Lancashire Hot Pot @ Feb 26 2007, 11:32 AM) [snapback]236087[/snapback]
Having followed League Two (and its various other guises) all my life, and having watched Morton for the last three seasons, I can confidently say that, unfortunately, Morton would struggle to top said division.

You are the one who should know what he's talking about.

Frankly this threads fine as a bit of fun, but in terms of realistic comparisons, it's far too airy fairy.
mortonjag 2007-02-26 11:49:19
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 26 2007, 11:35 AM) [snapback]236089[/snapback]
I hope JM reads this board and maybe takes some of the points on board and rests players and moves the others to their natural positions for Saturday.

More chance of hell freezing over by Thursday.
mortonjag 2007-02-26 12:01:26
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Feb 26 2007, 11:55 AM) [snapback]236098[/snapback]
this is me changing it, get the car for 3 years then hand it back for a brand spanking new one. my old one has already bn checked over, didnt cost a thing so heres hoping they dont expect any more money from me or ill cry

I think you're OK if you stay with them for your next motor. My 'ex' has MS and when she decided to leave Motability and go it alone they let her off with nothing!

Mind you, when we parted company, I discovered she was quite good at that sort of thing too! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-26 12:14:06
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Feb 26 2007, 12:09 PM) [snapback]236102[/snapback]
Clearly. Someone who has the inability to properly construct a word.

Note to all- make sure your password is not cappielow or morton

Who'd be so f*cking stupid-I spotted that risk from day one.

Mine's 'pachydermatous'-just like myself. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-26 13:16:50
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 26 2007, 12:27 PM) [snapback]236104[/snapback]
I know exactly how you feel mate - the analogy to tornado's is spot on - when they're coming they're wet and wild, when they're leaving they take the house and car.

TonInDublin

AT LEAST!!! sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-26 13:22:17
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Feb 26 2007, 12:53 PM) [snapback]236109[/snapback]
Yes I'm sure a guy with all of McInally's experience as a player and coach and the fact he sees the player in training will gladly turn to the wisdom of the "experts" on this board.

I thought you and I had found some common ground!

I am not an expert in football, but I am in other areas, and have often been able to take advice and help with my job from the most unexpected sources.

As I said before in different terms, you don't have to be a qualified plumber to know something's amiss if your house is flooded with water.

JM has indisputable experience-but may be one who finds it harder than others to gain from it.
mortonjag 2007-02-27 06:30:50
QUOTE(Mags @ Feb 26 2007, 11:51 PM) [snapback]236281[/snapback]
Did anyone notice the wee mascot at Stranraer on Saturday...he was a dead ringer for this wee guy....!
Mags.

Well I told you-where was Steve Aitken hanging about when he was made?
mortonjag 2007-02-27 06:33:57
QUOTE(SkinTON @ Feb 27 2007, 04:12 AM) [snapback]236304[/snapback]
You had to slip Liverpool in at the end there, didn't you??

My least favourites in no specific order are : Airdrie, Man Utd, St.Midden, Chelsea and Livingston.

Rantic and Celgers mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-27 06:39:01
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Feb 26 2007, 08:41 PM) [snapback]236233[/snapback]
Not a bad idea IMHO. dry.gif

Too sensible for J 'Umm'??? sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-27 06:44:46
QUOTE(e_f @ Feb 26 2007, 10:13 PM) [snapback]236252[/snapback]
Looking at the videos of the goals a good keeper who could organise his defence would have come and collected the ball both times. The way that the players crowd in front of the keeper stop him making a save or coming for the ball tells me either the players don't have confidence in him or he doesn't boss his area enough for players to move to let him get the ball. I tend to think the former given that we have conceded goals in other games where the defence has stood off and expected him to come but he hasn't.
What convinces me more than anything that he's not good enough is the opinion of other keepers - not one decent goalie I have spoken to rate him at all. I would take their word before most of the"experts" on this board who's only experience is being chucked in goal at fives cause the're hopless elsewhere!

If you name those 'experts' you'll maybe get some credibility-until you do I'll trust the expertise at Scapa-NOT that that's saying very much!
mortonjag 2007-02-27 06:55:22
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 26 2007, 11:34 PM) [snapback]236278[/snapback]
Just watched the goals on-line.
If you think Mathers was to blame for either then you're either mad or looking for a cheap scapegoat. How many chances did the defence get to clear the ball and failed?
Neither goal was the 'keepers fault.

It's SO obvious they're looking for a scapegoat DM-they just don't have the balls to come out and admit McInally's not cutting the mustard.

Poor Robert Connor's just got his jotters from Ayr, yet he achieved relatively more than JM last year with a bunch of ex juniors.

I still believe we'll get promotion in spite of him. The boys will hopefully 'get it together' by themselves on Saturday for a good victory, and once again he'll be St James of the Cunning Gameplan.

It's extremely strange-I've been playing Devil's advocate for over twenty four hours, and NOT ONE POSTER has come out in McInally's support.

Where is the huge majority who had 'total confidence in the manager's ability' now.

...Or could it be that rather than actually supporting him, they were just venting on myself and a few other of JM's detractors, the spleen which is now directed at Mathers and others?
mortonjag 2007-02-27 07:02:45
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Feb 26 2007, 02:13 PM) [snapback]236141[/snapback]
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'Lies, damned lies, and statistics'-are you Tonsilitis in disguise? Henry Ford wasn't daft you know.

Let's see your presentation of the same tables five minutes before our first play-off last year.

We are doing poorly given our resources, and the weak link is the management.




mortonjag 2007-02-27 07:06:12
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 27 2007, 12:20 AM) [snapback]236287[/snapback]
Like you say mate , we all wanted a season where we didn't lose any silly games and we would show that last years promotion system was unfair and that we would have shone in this league . As the finish line gets closer the worse we look . There were games early on in the campaign where I thought we would have struggled but didn't so I thought we had got over the stage fright .
I wouldn't hark on the point as JM did about how we should have been 2 or 3 up when he sits Bobby Linn beside him . The guy is a proven goal getter who has more experience in this league than McGowan .
Our team stability is like the earth before an earthquake , you know theres a fault but we don't know how bad things can be .. Surely we cannot persist in playing guys whose form has dipped , it will be as bad for them to keep playing and be involved in a continued bad result . Then you are just heaping more pressure on those who eventually have to take up the reins . Kenny McLean I thought was a victim in the play offs , having stuttered to a 0-0 , then putting the lad on from the start up at Peterhead . JM is burying his head in the sand on this he needs to start and get the team winning , notice I didn't say playing well . He has to shake his whole ethos and put a new dimension into the team we are too predictable , too slow moving the ball across field (akin to painting numbers ) ,

JM's head appears to be permanently buried in sand.
mortonjag 2007-02-27 07:12:50 I am NOT joking when I suggest we'd be as well picking the team out of a hat. All of our players are capable at this level. Just for a wee change then...



McGurn


Finlayson Harding McGregor Walker



McGowan Stevenson Weatherson McLaughlin


Templeman Linn


Subs: Mathers, Russell, Keenan, Millar, McAlister.
mortonjag 2007-02-27 07:15:00
QUOTE(SkinTON @ Feb 27 2007, 02:52 AM) [snapback]236299[/snapback]
I work with an Ayr Utd fan and he reckons Neil Watt the fromer Stranraer manager is the favourite to get the job.

In which case Kev Finlayson may well be plying his trade elsewhere next season unless McInally gets the finger out.
mortonjag 2007-02-27 07:19:34
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 26 2007, 11:25 PM) [snapback]236271[/snapback]
I don't really want to imagine waiting until the last day to pick up the title . The coronary rate in Inverclyde is bad enough .
We will be on a par with smoking , alcohol , drugs . Jack McConnell will probably have us band and any Morton addicts will be weaned off using Middendon a experimental treatment to get those dependant on Ton Addicts .
How can I express this to JM and the players ... think of what you've put us through .. the biggest joke in Scottish football ... betting scandal , bottle crashing , nearly men . That is you not us .
We are the fans who will still be hear in the future , the folk who bankroll the rest of this diddy league of part timers and no ambition clubs .
If you can't win this league , maybe this is your level and we should part company , because none of the fans want or believe this is our level .
sorry ranting there .

I have a wee smile when other 2nd divisions managers come out with things like 'of course Morton are streets ahead', when they're actually thinking 'mugging those big headed arseholes is easier than nicking yer Granny's handbag', especially when you bum them up.
mortonjag 2007-02-27 07:27:38
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 27 2007, 07:13 AM) [snapback]236315[/snapback]
I think judgement should be reserved until the end of the season. Until then, McInally and the team will get my support. If the arse falls out of our promotion bid then no doubt some 'cunning runts' will be on here saying 'I told you so'. biggrin.gif

I have already made my judgement DE.

We will scrape promotion because ultimately the boys are too good for the rest and there's no Gre£na factor to f*ck us this year.

St James of the Cunning Gameplan will then be officially canonised, and DDFR will persist with him, guaranteeing another season of frustrating sanctified mystery, and a slot half way up the league.

At the end of that season, the fans will have come to accept that St James is a bit of Pishley and was never a football manager.
mortonjag 2007-02-27 07:40:57 To my Mum, born Bawhirley Road, 85 years ago, and still acts like a wean at times.

To Elizabeth Taylor-actress-ONLY ten years her junior!!

AND to any posters whose birthdays are unlisted.
mortonjag 2007-02-27 07:43:12
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 27 2007, 07:33 AM) [snapback]236320[/snapback]
Prescience and omniscience Mr Mortonjag, you astound us all. Mr Rae should co-opt you to the board. laugh.gif

The old 'Sweetie Wife' may eventually see the light!
mortonjag 2007-02-27 07:46:36
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Feb 27 2007, 07:27 AM) [snapback]236318[/snapback]
The March games are taking on an importance far beyond what most expected. Peterhead, Alloa, Stirling, Forfar and Cowden have all shown themselves capable of giving us a game and 4 of them have taken points off us so far. For some reason we've gone back to looking fragile and JM will have to earn his wages getting us back on track. The defence could start leading the way by eliminating the pub team mistakes but I'm not confident.

After so long playing a settled team I can't see JM changing the midfield around so I think we're in for a very nervous month both on the park and off. If we're still 7 points ahead going into April then we'll have done well.

I agree with your sentiments but not with your expression, 'a settled team'.

The correct term is 'a collective sinecure'.
mortonjag 2007-02-27 08:59:41 George Harrison's 'Something in the way she moves'.
mortonjag 2007-02-27 09:01:52
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 27 2007, 08:21 AM) [snapback]236334[/snapback]
I'm sure many who attended that 'bastion' ended up with sinecures just because of it. laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2007-02-27 09:05:31
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Feb 27 2007, 08:54 AM) [snapback]236347[/snapback]
Why calls to drop Mathers all of a sudden?

Mathers

Weatherson Greacen Harding Macgregor

Finlayson A. Walker McLaughlin McAllister

Templeman Linn

Subs -

McGurn Keenan Stevenson Millar McGowan


Can't see Gowser being dropped.

In reality, I wouldn't drop Mathers-I was simply suggesting a ring of changes that might just get us an exciting game and result for once.
mortonjag 2007-02-27 09:11:06
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Nov 20 2006, 01:54 PM) [snapback]203734[/snapback]
This one has definately come out of MortanJag's top drawer. 75% of this board is blind. It doesn't matter what we actually say or think, if it in any way goes against his obviously superior understanding of managing Morton then we are miguided fools. My only concern would be if we were to buy into MortonJag's extremely blinkered and negative perspective, then we really would have the blind leading the blind.

dry.gif ScotinBelgie

75% of the board have turned very quiet all of a sudden.
mortonjag 2007-02-27 09:13:08
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Nov 20 2006, 12:06 AM) [snapback]203657[/snapback]
QUOTE(Big Hutchie @ Nov 15 2006, 09:01 PM)
MY opinion is that we will win this league BECAUSE of McInally, BECAUSE of Martin Clark and BECAUSE of the players.
QUOTE


Now big chap , Wouldn't you say that we're still in this Division because of McInally ? We keep on going round in circles . Let me reiterate the question Mortonjag and Willowman are asking
When the results really matter has McInally proved good enough for you .. just a yes or no . We don't want you coming away with "McInally speak " about a young manager , young team and we have to grow ...... we haven't got time for languishing in this division the longer our stay the bigger the financial hardship when we do reach the 1st Division.

That's what the man asked-well folks, it's make up your minds time! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-27 09:20:44
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Feb 27 2007, 09:08 AM) [snapback]236355[/snapback]
So NOW we should play less attractive football and win games like we were at the beginning of the season. Was that not when people were saying that as paying customers expecting to be entertained then we should be playing attacking football and that JM was an idiot. (Can't be bothered going in search of the thread, but I'm sure you remember it well)

Probably one reason why JM doesn't listen to the some of the nonsense posted on here.

This almost sounds like an interesting idea, except who would then be the three in midfield? Would you drop Jamie as that is probably his best position or would you leave him out on the right. Why not stick Jim on the right, replace Scotty with Peter in the central role and have Ryan on the left, all good ideas if you look at individual players. How would it work in practice though?

cool.gif ScotinBelgie

To your first-we were actually playing quite well at the beginning of the season, 'til others wisened up. We then went through a phase of 'the long ball is the only tactic' stuff. Then it was 'we desperately need a striker'.
If you keep your football simple and direct, with a no compromise defence and midfield, the fans will be entirely happy so long as the goals come too.

To your second-McGowan is an attacking midfielder, and Millar, Jimbo, and to a lesser degree Stevenson are off the boil. Playing Linn-our only striker (apart from our right back) is common sense
mortonjag 2007-02-27 09:25:01
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 27 2007, 09:20 AM) [snapback]236360[/snapback]
No, it wouldn't... we'd create hee-haw with that team. You would very quickly notice how important Stevenson is, as you would have on Saturday when he was taken off and we created feck all for the rest of the game.

ThornTON-how do you know?

For once I'm asking a serious question.

Is this not EXACTLY the sort of thing we need-a boot up a few complacent arses, and a chance for some others to show their mettle?
mortonjag 2007-02-27 10:19:51
QUOTE(big B @ Feb 27 2007, 09:44 AM) [snapback]236372[/snapback]
I think some people should attend their doctor for a course of valium for the run-in or tesco's for pampers.

I use both and it still doesn't help. blink.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-27 10:22:14
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 27 2007, 09:30 AM) [snapback]236367[/snapback]
Unless Russell does all the work for an out-of-sorts McAlister, then there would only be two holding midfielders who have got no real skill between them, other than breaking up play reasonably well.

A lot to ask a guy on his first start!

The whole point is that 'skill's been achieving SFA.
mortonjag 2007-02-27 10:23:42
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 27 2007, 09:52 AM) [snapback]236377[/snapback]
We will win this league smile.gif

As predicted by yours truly from day one. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-27 10:24:24
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Feb 27 2007, 09:56 AM) [snapback]236381[/snapback]
Erm, yes we will wink.gif

In spite of the manager-as I've consistently said.
mortonjag 2007-02-27 10:36:08
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Feb 27 2007, 10:04 AM) [snapback]236386[/snapback]
It is interesting that you suggest Chris Millar should be dropped if he continues to under-perform in the next 2 games or so. I feel that with only 9 games left to play then this course of action towards one player who constantly loses the ball and appears to be very soft in his challenges is in my opinion too little too late. We have past the stage now where JM can start to drastically change things when he is hell bent on his favourites and sometimes I feel the guy must have his blinkers on all week during training not just at the game on a Saturday, assuming of course that as full time players we do actually train during the week? Not that it shows in our current form???

It's NEVER too late to learn.

Millar's been very effective for a lot of the season, but he's not a midfield grafter. Recently he's just gone right 'off'.

McInally's obsession with certain midfielders-and midfielders in general-baffles me.

He genuinely seems to believe that as long as you are fit and control a game, the rest will come.

We have no full backs, and (arguably) only one winger in the regular squad. He cannot see past the Greacen Harding partnership in central defence, despite others 'knocking at the door', and he's just RELEASED a striker, while signing one who doesn't get a game.

Rumours are abroad that he's regarded as 'stubborn' by the squad. Determination is one thing, but pig-headedness, and a blinkered attitude are another.

Our fans are too quick to point blame away from him when players like Sanny, Kev, and Jamie don't produce the goods, but they had no bother under so called 'less able' bosses.

Too late for that taxi this season, and we'll get there I believe, but next season may prove a huge disappointment.
mortonjag 2007-02-27 10:38:56
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 27 2007, 10:27 AM) [snapback]236406[/snapback]
so the manager has done nothing to help us win the league then ?

He has had a detrimental effect in my opinion. That squad would have cruised under many a 'lesser' manager.
mortonjag 2007-02-27 10:41:05
QUOTE(craigeton @ Feb 27 2007, 10:28 AM) [snapback]236408[/snapback]
Not to worry you post more than enough for everybody else. laugh.gif laugh.gif

And probably do it in half the time they take!

The 'Taxi' thread got very serious and heated. Only a small minority had the balls to criticise JM.

All I am asking is why the majority who clearly 'knew better' has gone silent?
mortonjag 2007-02-27 10:48:22
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Feb 27 2007, 10:28 AM) [snapback]236410[/snapback]
Aye your right...of course..TOP OF THE LEAGUE and you want to get rid of the manager who has turned this team around since he came to Cappielow.

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if you were one of those who fuelled the betting scam which screwed up our chances of promotion.

Come back at the end of the season and tell us all "I told you so". Meanwhile away and give us all peace.

Put you money where your mouth is .... I'll match any figure you want to put up...So put up or shut up..We will win this league.

You have not answered my question, but I take it you are still one of those misguided 75%.

Your second sentence is contemptible-I have been a Morton supporter all my life and watched them for 46 years through thick and thin. I AM NOT A SUPPORTER OF ANY MANAGER, least of all one who has had the squad underperforming with painful regularity.

Again, you are one of those 'big mouths' who 'speaks for all'-if you want peace-use 'ignore'.

Finally, your last sentence is ludicrous, as I have stated from day one we'll get promotion. It's the painful way it's happening as I splash the cash every week that is so undesirable.

mortonjag 2007-02-27 10:50:08
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Feb 27 2007, 10:38 AM) [snapback]236415[/snapback]
Yep, C'mon The Ton indeed. Reading some posts on here you would think we were 7 points behind at the bottom of the league, not 7 points clear at the top!!

As of this morning.
mortonjag 2007-02-27 11:07:19
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 27 2007, 10:51 AM) [snapback]236424[/snapback]
well said.

mortonjag, get off mcInallys back, why are you desparate to see the guy fall flat on his face ?
why do you hate him ?
oh and why do you spend about 20 hours a day posting on this site ? go & get a life ya moany bastard. rolleyes.gif

I have said several times I have no personal issue with JM.

I do have a personal distaste for inability to learn from experience. That unfortunate attribute is not necessary culpable, but those who possess it rarely progress far.

I'm more than happy with the very full life I live. Given that I have retired, and am 'comfortable', I don't begrudge an hour or so of my valuable daily time acting as a the forum dartboard. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-27 11:15:21
QUOTE(Edinton @ Feb 27 2007, 10:41 AM) [snapback]236418[/snapback]
McInally is on a hiding to nothing in this league... Short of 'doing a Gretna' it seems that regardless of how we got on this season he would be in for some stick, some justified - some not.

We're still 7 points clear in a league where we are the 'big game' for the rest, they all raise their game against us and are delighted if they get a point.

We will win this league, and that ladies and gentleman is all that we should be concerned with this season. Yes we've been average the last couple of games, but we were the same before Christmas and look how they responded - and then all of the sudden the board was awash with praise and relief that now we would coast to the title.

League titles aren't won in February I'm afraid....and as far as I can tell the only reason there's concern if and when the lead slips its because of what happened 3 years ago - its time those ghosts were laid to rest....and they will be once we get out this bloody league!

McInally might not be everyone's cup of tea (and I agree with some of your points 'jag) however given the situation over the last couple of seasons I think the time to judge him, and his tenure at Morton, will be at the end of next season - when we can see if and how we have progressed as a team (and a club).....

I've said elsewhere I don't expect to, or think we've a God given right to win every game.


I've also stated that I wouldn't mind nearly as much, if we were beaten off and on by 'the better team on the day'.

McInally's almost unparalleled (in my experience) panache for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, makes him the focus of criticism, like it or not.

I just do not believe he is managerial material. His quote in yesterday's 'SUN' that he can rarely remember being 'more in control of a game' says everything to me.

JIM-you f*cking lost.

While I agree with much of your sentiment, football management is a process of continuous assessment, and not final exams, as Robert Connor would no doubt tell you today.
mortonjag 2007-02-27 12:26:55
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Feb 27 2007, 11:47 AM) [snapback]236436[/snapback]
Sorry, I have not read the whole thread but are any of the McInally Knockers suggesting names for his replacement?

Good point made by Tonosaurus

Names were mentioned before. As you say you have not read the whole thread. I DON'T think it's wise to replace him at this stage.
mortonjag 2007-02-27 12:32:57
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Feb 27 2007, 11:51 AM) [snapback]236440[/snapback]
Got to agree Mortonjag...at times it seems your only pleasure is bemoaning the Morton manager, the squad..etc sometimes I wonder If you`ve actually gone through a bloody car crash and had your personality altered.
I dont remember you being this bloody minded a few years back.....
Thin line though.....for each time anyone says JMc has screwed up, becomes a personal attack, simply through verbalising a disagreement( though some folk on here it aint just a disagreement, more of a crusifixtion) in whichever tactic has gone wrong....regardless if he says he knows he got it wrong...but evry one is entitled to their view.....as long as I think it is correct biggrin.gif

I take no more pleasure from this than from Saturdays game-just to mention one of his debacles.

Everybody IS entitled to his view. I am equally entitled to say what I bloody like in response-of course I THINK I'm correct, just as they do.

JM's fair game as far as I'm concerned. He's being paid by us to get promotion and produce entertainment, and his record is far from untarnished. God forbid-even I can't see it, but if we were to blow it YET AGAIN, he'd still be God Almighty in your eyes.


AYE RIGHT.
mortonjag 2007-02-27 12:35:06
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Feb 27 2007, 11:52 AM) [snapback]236442[/snapback]
The reason McAllister is "out of sorts" in my opinion is because he is not being fed the ball while he is sat on the wing, he plays much better football inside. You can see his frusration during most games as the team around him seem on most occasions to forget he is there shouting for the ball and sometimes jump up and down waving his arms about virtually screaming for the ball to be played to him in wide open spaces. What does the guy have to do to be seen?

Don't question the master plan!
mortonjag 2007-02-27 12:37:04
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Feb 27 2007, 12:03 PM) [snapback]236448[/snapback]
Let's just hope he has not lost interest like some of the other players at Cappielow that we may see walking in the summer!!!!

Sorry to be repetitive, but stop questioning the master plan!
mortonjag 2007-02-27 12:42:27
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Feb 27 2007, 12:35 PM) [snapback]236463[/snapback]
At what stage do you suggest?

Short memories some folk. I seem to recall the "is McInally good enough" talk all came to an abrupt halt when a few managerial posts became available before Christmas and "will Jim leave" took over for a while. Now 7 points clear it's "at what stage do we dump him".

Good grief. Let the guy do his job and then judge him at the end of the season.

iF you're judging him on getting promotion, fine.

I made my judgement some considerable time ago. The short lived 'good run' was down to fortune as recent events have proved. Such a talented squad are bound to get it right some of the time.

I have repeatedly tried to be inoffensive by describing our manager as inexperienced.

More and more I'm wondering if he's not just a dolt.
mortonjag 2007-02-27 13:12:11
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Feb 27 2007, 12:59 PM) [snapback]236473[/snapback]
mortonjag, I can honestly say that I pretty much agree with most of your posts . As you can see I have only recently joined although have followed Morton for a while, however, I am not sure where you are coming from in terms of a master plan? I feel sure you will have referred to this masterplan in previous posts but can you please share your thoughts on this one with me to save me having to trawl through them?

Cheers

It's really just a reflection on the attitude of the 75% who 'had total faith in the manager's ability', but who when invited now to defend him, are either anonymous, or just spew out 'old hat' about being top of the league, etc.

That attitude could be summarised as 'He's the manager so he MUST know best'-he must have a secret formula. It's all a wee bit reminiscent of Neville Chamberlain and his master plan for peace.
mortonjag 2007-02-27 13:15:25 I'm led to believe JM was seen popping into chuch this morning. With his prayers, and the mercy of the Almighty, Beath may win, but somehow I have some doubts! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-27 13:17:08
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Feb 27 2007, 12:55 PM) [snapback]236472[/snapback]
From August to January!! ohmy.gif

You can't have your cake and eat it. There is no middle ground here. Either you renew his contract at the end of the season or you don't.

We go up = he stays (because he did the job he was employed to do).

The second part I agree with.

The short lived good run lay between this spell of 'blowing' things, and the last one.
mortonjag 2007-02-27 13:18:42
QUOTE(neilly @ Feb 27 2007, 01:00 PM) [snapback]236474[/snapback]
i have to say that upon leaving the ground on saturday jim had no vocal supporters, so 75% of people on here cant account for 75% of folk that travel to the unattractive away games. everyone i spoke to on the way out and during the post mortems had the same opinion...jim got his changes wrong...AGAIN!! he makes the same predictable subs every week just for the sake of it. jamie for kevin after about 65-70 mins then linn for mcgowan 10 mins later!! stevenson was havin a decent game and was delivering dangerous balls all day, why take him off,still ooked fresh. wee mcgowan harrassed their centre halfs all day and they were both on a booking, he was still buzzing about looking for the ball and was rightly pissed off when he got taken off! i agree with mortonjag and have had the same opinion since peterhead last year..we will win the league inspite of jim, the division is so poor this year that with the squad we have there is no excuse not to win it.

Almost choked on ma piece! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-27 13:21:07
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Feb 27 2007, 01:02 PM) [snapback]236475[/snapback]
Aye right indeed old man.....If we were to blow it again as you say......it would no more make him God Almighty in my eyes as you would be the most sentient being on the planet, indeed Universe....... dry.gif All I`m saying is that if we cock it up.....you WILL find me being one of those to say...he needs not to be shown the door...no, for he shall be allowed to go on, for t`is written....he who hath great learning in knowledge and follwing of 11 nobel warriors shall do battle till the last day in judgement...or in this case we win the fcuking league.....

Which put alongside the previous post from Neilly possibly asks more questions of you than I do of JM.
mortonjag 2007-02-27 14:34:49
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Feb 27 2007, 02:03 PM) [snapback]236531[/snapback]
No chance Russell will start, nor Walker. And that bench would walk into any 2nd division team and some 1st division teams, even with their form!

Personel will be the usual, but hopefully Jamie will play in the middle and Millar out wide. Have no great problem with playing the same team, their form will come good, just as it went off the boil.

However, if Jim Mc is going to change things, I would rather he made wholesale changes ie tactics, formation and players. At least that way we would be unpredictable to Peterhead. A 3-5-2 pehaps with Stevenson just behind the two strikers.

EXACTLY !!!
mortonjag 2007-02-27 14:37:14
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 27 2007, 01:49 PM) [snapback]236516[/snapback]
He is here for the foreseeable future. Thus, I sincerely hope that he gets the team playing again and converting the chances. To be honest I have never been impressed with McInally as he doesn’t appear to inspire the team or make decisive decisions during games. I hope he proves me wrong and leads Morton to a couple of excellent seasons.

Indeed, JM is the epitome of the indecisive decision! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-27 14:44:54
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Feb 27 2007, 02:04 PM) [snapback]236532[/snapback]
As I have tried to say a couple of times - "to be a manager you have to be a leader of people" it does not matter whether you are leading a team of footballers or a team of engineers/cleaners/salespeople/shopworkers you still have to lead from the front and our Jim is constantly at the back away from the limelight (touchline) and just lets them get on with it regardless of playing good or poor - what sort of leadership is that?

If I was allowed to sit back in my capacity as manager of 17 engineers or anybody else in the "real world" sat back then questions would be asked...... leats of all from DR who I understand has put a fair amount of money into this club, equally the fans who pay every week into their club.

Every time I've made that identical point, I've been 'rubbished'.

The usual response is that he's constantly 'transmitting instructions' to the players, and that he's a 'model manager' when compared to 'idiots who jump up and down, and shout all afternoon'.

I too have experience, not only in man management, but also in psychology. His whole Saturday afternoon persona bespeaks either shyness and lack of confidence, or alternatively disinterested complacency.

Either way, he fails to come across as a motivator, and in the REAL crunch games (not the Killie cup tie which the lads took on board for themselves) he's been found wanting.

I believe DDFR will honour his contract WHEN we get promotion this time, but I'd much rather see some experience leading us into division 1.
mortonjag 2007-02-27 14:47:07
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Feb 27 2007, 02:45 PM) [snapback]236558[/snapback]
For what it's worth here is mine......... Assuming of course that there is any other way than the normal line up!!!

Mathers

Walker Greacan Harding McGregor

Finlayson Stevenson Weatherson McAlister

Linn Templeman

Subs: McGurn, McGowan, Russell, Millar (and of course McInally with arms folded and gagged)

dry.gif

That last comment was uncalled for. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-27 14:48:59
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 27 2007, 02:38 PM) [snapback]236552[/snapback]
This shows how our confidence has been dented , as we shouldn't care about Stirlings results . When you start hoping the team below losses ground rather than us cementing our lead is a bad day .

Sir Arthur was correct!
mortonjag 2007-02-27 14:59:46
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Feb 27 2007, 01:22 PM) [snapback]236483[/snapback]
I dont think its down to that either that the 75% are saying anything, its probably due to the fact that folk on here are sick of listening to you rabbit on about JM all the time. We, like yourself are entitled to their opinion MJ but do you have to spout it on every thread jeeso.

Then I shall claim first prize for endurance, and the 'cop out merchants' can make any excuse they like.

It's easy to get sick of what I say when it may just be proving a little more accurate than those 75% cared to admit.

When we blew our huge lead, I was furious. As we clawed it back, partly on account of Stirling lapsing, my opinion of JM remained unchanged, so I shut up for quite some time-so much so that posters were commenting about my silence.

Now we're back at square one- everything should be going for us- full time squad-state of the art training facilities- a benevolent chairman-a superb fan base-and we're struggling.

AT, you can say what you like-tide of opinion is definitely turning. I will continue to make my points as often as I feel the urge. If you don't like them, is it because you disagree, or just because you're not willing to concede an inch?
mortonjag 2007-02-27 15:04:05
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Feb 27 2007, 02:02 PM) [snapback]236529[/snapback]
If you are suggesting that Morton are top of the league despite McInally then I think that is rather unfair when other managers have tried and failed far more spectacularly than he. Anyway, is taking any team to the top of the league on matchday 3 and keeping them there not an achievement in itself? No doubt you'll just spew out "old hat" about we have a right to win every game because of our resources and we're full time, etc.

Away and bile yer heid BMFC.

Of course I'm talking in relative terms. JM has been praised by me repeatedly for his ability to assemble a talented young squad, and get them super fit.

I happen to believe that that's his limit, and we are now struggling when we should be coasting.
mortonjag 2007-02-27 15:08:03
QUOTE(Edinton @ Feb 27 2007, 02:05 PM) [snapback]236533[/snapback]
Livingston's (Pearce Flynn's) response - apparently they're being portrayed as bad guys.

Good.

Flynn is a charlatan of the lowest order. I know someone who has frequently had dealings with him outside football-I am not just commenting for fun.
mortonjag 2007-02-27 15:56:12
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Feb 27 2007, 03:31 PM) [snapback]236581[/snapback]
What is they say about fools? Something like shout something often enough, someone will eventually listen and the law of averages allow that it will happen sometime. If you compare Morton and McInally to Thistle and Campbell, we can all see how to measure a manager. Campbell endured a torrid season last year and got lucky in the playoffs playing some of the worst football any Thistle fan has had to endure. he went out and signed by all accounts a decent squad for a first division campaign and has managed to turn them into no-hopers where again the Thistle faithful are sick of his crap style of football. McInally's team have so far this season maintained their lead at the top and although stuttered a bit along the way it's fair to predict the trophy cabinet will need a wee extension in the summer. Yes he's guilty of one or two bad decisions but hey we're all human.

'Shout something often enough'-and 'if you compare'.

I am not shouting-simply stating my considered opinion, with which there is clearly a growing concensus.

The only true comparison would have been had Campbell been here and JM there with the existing resources at each. THAT would have been extremely interesting.
mortonjag 2007-02-27 15:58:40
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Feb 27 2007, 03:35 PM) [snapback]236583[/snapback]
I refer you to my previous posts.

I haven't changed my opinion I just can't be arsed typing it up again!

cool.gif ScotinBelgie

Good for you, tucked up nice and cosy in Les Pays Bas. Come and suffer the pain week in and week out Scotty boy, instead of gloating over league tables.
mortonjag 2007-02-27 16:01:54
QUOTE(rex manning @ Feb 27 2007, 03:14 PM) [snapback]236573[/snapback]
Ha ha imagine using the fact that we are top of the league by 7 points to defend the manager?!?! Thats insane! Who are these fools??

MortonJag for manager! i'll start a petition.

Some folks never give up! rolleyes.gif

Imagine using the fact that the Grand Prix car only beat the Reliant Robin by yards to claim the first driver was 'ace'!

Oh and I don't 'do' second division managers. The pay's crap.
mortonjag 2007-02-27 16:08:47
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Feb 27 2007, 03:57 PM) [snapback]236587[/snapback]
Aye well name names - who is there that is either available and a realistic target or who is there that wwould be willing to leave where they are to come to Morton for an affordable price? I can't think of anyone and I don't agree with change for change's sake.

I see, now we're getting nearer the truth-he's the best DDFR can afford!

Don't be silly-I've said repeatedly that other 2nd division managers are relatively doing significantly BETTER than JM with part time squads and a paucity of resources.

We don't need a football managerial maestro. Just somebody that can do the job properly.
mortonjag 2007-02-27 16:10:57
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Feb 27 2007, 03:42 PM) [snapback]236584[/snapback]
I know ............... I couldn't resist - sorry wink.gif wink.gif wink.gif wink.gif

Then don't let it happen again or the vultures will desert my impending carrion, and have you for canapes. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-27 16:14:51
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 27 2007, 04:05 PM) [snapback]236592[/snapback]
Just a thought, is Scotland really represented on the Union Flag? They would have us believe that the blue background white cross is representative of the Saltire but when did the Scottish Saltire ever use Navy Blue. Was this another blatant attempt to belittle our country?

I would also question the legality of football clubs flying the Union Flag at the grounds as well as ordinary folk flying these flags, is it not the case that it is the case of course that it is NOT permissible for the ordinary citizen of the UK either Scottish, English, Welsh or Irish to fly the Union Flag. It is only permissible for Government offices, Royal Navy ships on their foretop and certain other military uses (and recently certain royal dwellings in the absence of the monarch). It is the flag of the Union only. The common citizens should be flying their own national flags - the crosses of St George, St Andrew, St Patrick and of Cornwall and the dragon of Wales, unless they are on board ship when these flags may be flown on the foretop but the red ensign is mandatory.

rolleyes.gif I wonder

Step up Colkitto sharing a kilt and nae knickers with Alibi!
mortonjag 2007-02-27 20:45:27
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Feb 27 2007, 04:46 PM) [snapback]236630[/snapback]
Concede what ?, nothing to concede. Just cant be arsed listening to you're consistant bile of pish about JM ( Everyone knows how you feel about it on every thread) from you're wee chair in yer baffy's. FFs if the internet wasnt invented, you would be bored out your f***ing nut.

rolleyes.gif

Then all you poor unimaginative sods, who clearly haven't an original thought in your heads, would have to seek out some other target for your pent up frustrations. Why don't you aim your nasty little poison darts at the right target? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-27 20:50:36
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Feb 27 2007, 05:47 PM) [snapback]236670[/snapback]
ohmy.gif hide, quickly, MJ will hunt you laugh.gif

Not at all, she is young and a lady. She will learn from bitter experience!
mortonjag 2007-02-27 20:57:19
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Feb 27 2007, 08:48 PM) [snapback]236735[/snapback]
We all have our thoughts MJ, all im saying is no need to put them on every thread, that is all, anyway, hows the weather up your way tongue.gif

It's pissing with rain-I just rushed out there for my denture cream and got my baffies thoroughly soaked.

Never mind, I'm just off to bed with my Horlicks and hot water bottle to read the next chapter of 'How to Make Friends and Impress People'. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-28 06:30:15 In this morning's news.

A recent poll of 1250 adults carried out by the campaigning group 'Parenting Across Scotland' has disclosed that OVER 90% of parents think that 'smacking' children is unacceptable, and prefer to 'discuss' matters with their children.

'Now darling, let's have a little chat if you're not too busy. Mums and I are slightly disappointed that you've set fire to your bedroom again, and wonder if you have any comments to make. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-28 06:33:17
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Feb 27 2007, 10:21 AM) [snapback]236398[/snapback]
I couldn't agree with you more on this point. Mathers, it is my understanding was brought in not only to apply himself in goal but also to coach not only McGurn but also the defence and at the start that is exactly what he did, so why all of a sudden as the communication between keeper and defence broken down? At the introduction of Mathers to Morton you could often hear him bellowing instructions at defence and supporting them, directing them etc, but this has semed to reduce somewhat just of late. Silly mistakes are being made by Grecean and Harding that cost us dearly. Why? Is it nerves? Is it that as a team we have glory in our sights and have taken our eye off the ball?

I don't know!

There was a VERY OBVIOUS tightening of the defence after Paul arrived-players were not falling over each other so much, and were more decisive.

I do not believe the recent lapse is down to Mathers.
mortonjag 2007-02-28 06:36:17
QUOTE(qpsnapper @ Feb 27 2007, 01:30 PM) [snapback]236489[/snapback]
Why let the facts get in the way of a bit of idle gossip and rumour?

Queen's Park do own Hampden Park. The SFA took over management of the stadium in April 2000, NOT ownership. A wee look at the Hampden Park website confirms this; as does the Scottish Parliament's report.

Since April 2000 it has been leased to the SFA for a 20 year period, and the SFA have an option to extend that lease for a further 20 year period (if they wish) once the initial lease expires.

As for your "friend" who says we had a game postponed last year because we didn't pay the bill for the undersoil heating. We've not had a single game postponed so far this season; I've just had a quick look at 2003/04, 2004/05 and 2005/06, and during those three seasons Queen's have had eight games postponed. Away to Montrose and East Stirling in 2003/04; away to Albion Rovers and Elgin in 2004/05, and away to East Stirling, Berwick, Albion Rovers and Arbroath in 2005/06. In other words, not a single game scheduled for Hampden has been postponed for the last three and a half seasons. If you want I'll check further back, but I wouldn't want to embarrass your "friend" too much.

Is there anyone on here who deals in facts, or is it only half-assed speculation and rumour that's allowed?

Aye f*ck off ya bowler hatted snob-we are MORTON-super MORTON no one likes us-we don't care. cool.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-28 06:38:17
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 27 2007, 07:56 PM) [snapback]236715[/snapback]
I would drop McGowan for Linn, McGowan has been playing really well, but hasn't been scoring as much as we would have liked.
Also I'm a Miller fan, but he hasn't been playing well at all. I would bring Walker into replace him.

I would also sub McAllister for Russell if things are not going to plan ohmy.gif

You should forget politics and stick to football.
mortonjag 2007-02-28 06:42:04
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 27 2007, 11:51 PM) [snapback]236807[/snapback]
Having watched the video of Saturdays goal it struck me that I had seen that set piece the week before . The short corner cross in Templeman scores ( i go a pound down ... have friendly bet with a friend just the moment hes up 3 quid ) the money I'm happy to lose if the big fella can win us the match .
I am surprised not more of you manager types had noticed this banker from the set piece . It is aparent them that something happens during the week .
Did we not score against Ayr in our recent game that way .
Get your money on the big guy who cant stand up for falling down .
This will see me having to endure no end of urine extraction , as there will be many who know my feelings about our beloved Sanny .

I was astonished to see the big man score a 'proper' header.

He's obviously been working on getting down for crosses.
mortonjag 2007-02-28 06:48:06
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Feb 27 2007, 07:47 PM) [snapback]236711[/snapback]
Good sensible post. Wait til Mortonjag gets his hands on this.... rolleyes.gif

To call what is just stating the obvious a 'good sensible post', is hardly sensible.

Tonsilitis is a student of theology-he knows nothing that doesn't come from the Book of Numbers.
mortonjag 2007-02-28 07:15:51
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Feb 27 2007, 04:48 PM) [snapback]236632[/snapback]
Thats not what i was referring to, the history part yes, ie where the original cross came from ffs. You are as bad as MJ at times.

Shouldn't that have been JM? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-28 07:17:12
QUOTE(edd @ Feb 27 2007, 05:34 PM) [snapback]236657[/snapback]
actually the "logist" part comes from ancient greek, "logos" which has a very wide range of definitions but all based around the concept of "meaning". "-logy" as a suffix in english has come to mean "the study of". "vexillum" is the latin word for a flag so vexillology is the study of flags smile.gif

The Greek study of Roman flags in fact.

Trichosectology if you ask me!
mortonjag 2007-02-28 07:35:08 It's the last day of February-one of my all time favourites as Spring beckons.

Happy birthday to all celebrating or otherwise.

Today is the 95th anniversary of the first parachute jump, and many years later the famous Cavern in Liverpool 'went down' on 28th February, in the days when 'music' meant music.

mortonjag 2007-02-28 07:48:09
QUOTE(ton_will_get_promoted @ Feb 28 2007, 07:19 AM) [snapback]236835[/snapback]
Gone ur the days wen ye could get away wae listenin tae two uld duds "rockin aw o'er the world. So is ae times wer ye could try n sell a pair o size 9 fitbaw boots on ae main forum. Hevvy cheesy patter at is nooadays.

Hard cheddar mate.
mortonjag 2007-02-28 09:15:10
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 28 2007, 07:55 AM) [snapback]236839[/snapback]
Erm, i dont, never have had any doubt this season.
already looking forward to next season & JM proving mortonjag wrong............. again ! smile.gif

Nothing would please me more I can assure you.
mortonjag 2007-02-28 09:19:42
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Feb 28 2007, 08:06 AM) [snapback]236843[/snapback]
No, I agree the poor show in goal loss/"run of bad luck" is not down to Mathers, he is a very experienced and well versed Goalkeeper. I feel it is more a case of the defence have possibly brought the new Morton keeper down to their level as I feel they have with McGowan. When he first arrived he was hungry, he was eager to turn on the skill that helped us win games but he too has gone off the boil.

Or, at the risk of repeating myself and yourself yet again, has the manager had an influence on the way players including Grecean, Mathers, Harding, McGowan (I feel sure Bobby Linn will be in this list too soon as he plays more games) are now playing due to his "lack of gusto", disinterest, call it what you will it still amounts to the same lacklustre attitude and mistakes each week.

I am sure there will be people who post a reply to this as they have done with your comments MJ about getting on JM's back but hey, look at the facts guys. And before anybody states that I just want McInally out of the way - this is not true, I am not naive enough to realise that we are where we are as a result of fitness and tactics within the team, I am just saying that for some reason our players do not each have the same set of b*lls they had at the start of the season. It could possibly be down to something quite simple such as "complacency within the team starting at the top and drilling it's way down to the pitch.

Exactly-why oh why can the same boys take Killie for a ride, and flop massively in playoffs.

IF it's to do with confidence and morale, the manager is PAID to fix that.

The trouble is that those very problems may be created by the 'fixer'-hence our constantly see-sawing instead of surging ahead.
mortonjag 2007-02-28 09:25:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 28 2007, 08:43 AM) [snapback]236849[/snapback]
Watch out Mr Mortonjag. The egg chasing pedagogue McB might call you to account for an unnecessary apostrophe.

O me miserum-mea culpa-sed carpe diem-et voila-apostrophus absentus.

Muchas grassy arse DE wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-28 09:26:52
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 28 2007, 09:09 AM) [snapback]236852[/snapback]
It's not called "the rag" for nothing, chummer.

And that's its Sunday name-BTW you'll need your bowler AND brolly today-it's pissin' doon here in Weegieland.
mortonjag 2007-02-28 10:37:29
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Feb 28 2007, 09:50 AM) [snapback]236869[/snapback]
Hello ,

It wasn't long ago I bought my new trainers , probably less than a month. Yesterday I put them in the washing machine , they are good Adidadas trainers and so I dont understand but now they squeek every step I make ; especially the left one. I was thinking that if I put a hole in the air bubble at the heel with a needle then it will solve it ? How did the squeeking get there ? did the washing machine cause it ?

Trainers are for feet not washing mashines. Did you read the manufacturers label, use the correct programme, and choose the appropriate quantity of detergent? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-28 11:48:42
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Feb 28 2007, 10:39 AM) [snapback]236894[/snapback]
Hindsight is bloody wonderful ; it's solutionsI require not preventative measures , you know that so stop acting like a baboon.

I am a diagnostician-the baboon is my friend. I was merely looking for possible causes of the problem, as franco has suggested.

I DO wash trainers in the machine, but I always use the lowest temp and gentlest cycle, with just a wee cup of ordinary powder for whites.
The enzymes and additives in a number of the so called special powders can cause problems.

As for the squeak-sorry, I haven't a clue, but I'll speak to the baboon and get back to you.
mortonjag 2007-02-28 11:53:59
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Feb 28 2007, 11:34 AM) [snapback]236908[/snapback]
Oh aye and watch s***ty Liverpool and Arsenal sides contest the title? Man Utd this season some of the best football ever played under Ferguson and that includes when they had the majestic Eric the King who for all his goings on could never match Henry in the petulant moany faced frog stakes.

Glory Glory to the Man U!!

I was maybe lucky-only watched the second half, and I thought Reading were tremendous, and really tested the keeper, plus of course had one off the bar.

Did you notice the commentary gradually change from 'United are sloppy in defence' to 'Reading can DO this'. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-28 11:55:52
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 28 2007, 10:51 AM) [snapback]236899[/snapback]
Not convinced .

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mortonjag 2007-02-28 12:02:26
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Feb 28 2007, 11:21 AM) [snapback]236906[/snapback]
I started counting the number of posts you've made on this thread alone saying the same old rubbish but I ran out of fingers. If only I could be as smart as you and maybe post something with an "original thought". rolleyes.gif

Maybe you're too much of an old fart to remember a kid's TV show from about 20 years ago called "Why don't You?" The theme tune included the line "Why Don't You Go Outside and Do Something Less Boring Instead". May I suggest that you give it a try so as to lift the boredom for everyone else. Infact for starters try boiling yer heid!!

Sir, that's a terribly long winded and painfully repetitive way of saying you disagree with me.

My suggestion that you go and 'bile yer heid' was based on the sound principle that with its consequent expansion you might just find the capacity therein for some logical thought.

Oh, and I'm sorry about your hand deformities. I can put you in touch with a good plastic surgeon, but he only does private medicine.
mortonjag 2007-02-28 12:08:32
QUOTE(bonzo @ Feb 28 2007, 12:05 PM) [snapback]236918[/snapback]
G_M_F_C 1874

Nice mature comments posted by you on the Peterhead website, in regards to Mathers goal-keeping. I can see you are right up there with the top sports journalists.

I think we may get a draw down at cappielow, and i hope Mathers pulls out some great saves, just to see if you still slag him off.

Not to worry bonzo-it's scapegoat time, and Paul's an easy target for some eejits.
mortonjag 2007-02-28 12:11:48
QUOTE(Edinton @ Feb 28 2007, 11:54 AM) [snapback]236913[/snapback]
To be fair Man U didn't turn up for the second half, kept giving the ball away in the last ten/fifteen minutes in particular...

Erm-you ain't suggesting they've been watching erm Gre.....? wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-02-28 13:07:57
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Feb 28 2007, 12:29 PM) [snapback]236924[/snapback]
I dont understand why you think we have the better run in. 3 away games? We havent won an away game for 2 months, and two of the teams, Alloa and Stirling have already beaten us away from home.

This is a really tough month which will decide the league imo.

Correct-there are no 'easy' games in this league, and the ones we've thought would be easy are in general the ones we've messed up.
mortonjag 2007-02-28 13:23:35
QUOTE(McCauley87 @ Feb 28 2007, 01:10 PM) [snapback]236937[/snapback]
And who do you think we should have as manager if we don't have Jim?

As far as I'm concerned Jim is here to do a job and that job is to get promotion into the first division and as long as he is at the helm and we are playing in the first division next season, which likely will be the case, I'm happy and I'll support him. I personally can't think of any manager who we could get who would do a better job at the moment, we could maybe attract a better manager once we are in the first division, or SPL 2 if it gets off the ground. Jim should be given the support from all fans and he should be judged on our summer signings and how we can adapt to the First Division.

There are fans who are out there who just don't like Jim and no matter what he does they will criticise him. He has been getting criticised by peole saying the team is too predictable, yet he changes it for the Brechin game and then gets criticised for changing the team blink.gif and after that he goes back to what has been working throughout the season and is again criticised for being predictable, make up your minds do you want the team to play the way we have been playing or do you want the system changed? You can't have both.

I do have a couple if issues with his squad selection but he watches them in training all week so he is in a better position to judge so we should let him get on with his job. For example, I personally think McGowan should be dropped in place of Linn cos the link up play between Linn and Temps is better, from what I've seen, than that of McGowan and Temps, but the McGowan Temps partnership is still good enough to get the job done and that's all that matters. The Mathers issue is a major one. We looked solid and didn't look like conceding goals every game before Mathers came, but since Mathers has arrived everytime the opposition attack it looks like we could concede and since Mathers has arrived we have had very few, if any, clean sheets and although it's the defence that makes the mistakes, for all this to coincide with the change in goalkeeper seems to suggest that Mathers has a big part in the cause of these mistakes. I beleive if McGurn was in goal against Stranraer the first goal wouldn't have been scored cos McGurn would have came out and collected the ball and the second goal followed on from that cos our heads went down and Stranraer got added confidence. So if McGurn was in we would have won the game 1-0. So as far as I'm concerned the only thing Jim should be criticised for is his goalkeeping selection, which hopefully won't cost us promotion but it may cost the title.

You claim to support him and say we should let him get on with his job, then start to do what the rest of us are not supposed to-put in your tuppenceworth.

If he's beyond reproach-fine-if he's not, why is your opinion any more valid than the rest?
mortonjag 2007-02-28 13:27:07
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Feb 28 2007, 01:18 PM) [snapback]236939[/snapback]
eh? Last time I checked I had all ten fingers!! unsure.gif

As for logical thought, for a self professed "I'm the smartest guy in town and an expert on everything" pain in the arse doctor I have yet to read much from you has any reason or logic to it although you do live up to your professional stereotype with your constant patronising tone. For example in this thread you are advocating that Morton at top of league and clear by 7 points = sack manager. It's easy to predict a football manager will resign / get sacked because it always happens, all you are doing is going on about it until it eventually does happen so you can say I told you so.

I would really appreciate it if you could educate me as to how my posts are illogical?

No you wouldn't. Just accept I'll always come back for more fun. If you give up there will be another along in a minute. wub.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-01 06:19:03
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Feb 28 2007, 11:16 PM) [snapback]237161[/snapback]
No it was Monday night for straight night. The sore arse on a Wednesday morning should've been a clue!!

What sort of treatment did you get? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-01 06:20:51
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Feb 28 2007, 11:52 PM) [snapback]237183[/snapback]
And it reminded me about the article I had found in Friday's Metro.....

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDAnd he couldn't come up with the goods!
mortonjag 2007-03-01 06:26:14
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Mar 1 2007, 01:08 AM) [snapback]237196[/snapback]
The Willow Bus made it in an hour but then again it was metered laugh.gif

RAC routeplanner-43 minutes in light traffic-and that's observing all speed limits.
mortonjag 2007-03-01 06:29:37
QUOTE(McCauley87 @ Feb 28 2007, 01:34 PM) [snapback]236948[/snapback]
Oh, the sarcasm laugh.gif .

But if there was no sarcasm then I would agree with you, there are no easy games. Unfortunately some supporters don't see this and expect us to win every game by a barrowload. There are tough games in this league and they are made tougher by the fact we are a full time team and are expect to win convincingly by some of our supporters and the press. But the job has been getting done and I am sure it will be seen through til the end and we will be in the first division next season, but we have to be wary of being too cocky and expecting too much and we need to be aware of Stirling cos we won't win every game in the run in.

Oh, the paranoia biggrin.gif

I was genuinely supporting you and for once no sarcasm was intended.
mortonjag 2007-03-01 06:32:57 [quote name='Tonsilitis' date='Feb 28 2007, 02:21 PM' post='236966']
.. factually correct but also misleading.

That sounds like a total dereliction of your raison d'etre Tonsilitis, or there again, maybe just an accurate comment on the Ton's current league position!
mortonjag 2007-03-01 06:42:21
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Feb 28 2007, 11:22 PM) [snapback]237167[/snapback]
What you are seeing of late is not a case of missplaced pass but more like downright schoolboy co*k ups. If you think they have got pressure now then wait 'til they go up to the 1st at the end of the season and then they will be sweating round the collar, there will be no room then for "missplaced passes" or p*ss poor management for that fact. I will be the first one to back the manager as and when he starts to make the necessary changes in the team and and get a grip of the "underperformers".

Surely the fact that JM has stated he is leaving the team unchanged this Saturday after the efforts against Stranraer shows there is something amiss backroom?????

I hadn't heard that-if it's true, and not yet another cunning ploy from master tactician, he REALLY deserves the boot right now.

As I stated elsewhere, he was quoted on Monday as having said--'I don't think we've ever been more in control of a game'.

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Jim, I think it's got to the stage where your stubborn pig headed attitude is becoming thoroughly dangerous.

If you don't learn from mistakes, you're condemned to relive them.
mortonjag 2007-03-01 06:49:01
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 28 2007, 11:47 PM) [snapback]237181[/snapback]
I thought John Maisano was a great player but too unfit and inconsistent. I do agree he was better than Paul Walker.

I don't know about you but I think dropping from Morton to Ayr United to Stranraer and then quitting the game could be seen as something of a failure from a guy who was on the books of Atalanta and who had played for the Australian Olympic side.

When he could be arsed, John was far more direct, and passed the ball better than either Midge or Jamie do, and he had a nose for goal.

Paul was our last genuine winger.

Both 'Cowboy' players of course.
mortonjag 2007-03-01 06:57:33
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Feb 27 2007, 06:52 PM) [snapback]236685[/snapback]
People can't have it both ways.

He thoroughly deserves criticism from both angles. He seems to just stick with the same 'old hat', or when he has to make a change, produces the bizarre-like Kev at Centre Forward against Stirling.

The fact is that you and the rest of our complacent 'rose tints' can shout 'til you're blue in the face about being 'top' of this nursery school league-that will not change a thing.

Only if JM starts showing some flexibility and imagination which gets us consistency will the barracking tail off.
mortonjag 2007-03-01 07:02:59
QUOTE(neilly @ Nov 9 2006, 10:18 AM) [snapback]200406[/snapback]
still going to all the games but to be honest im the opposite of the previous posts. im losing the urge to go home games, theres very rarely any atmosphere at the games just now and we are just going through the motions i feel. away days are better cause theres a home support (the majority of the time) and the atmosphere is better.

Couldn't agree more neilly. My brother and I faithfully travel to every game, home and away, and there's absolutely no doubt there's a better atmosphere at opposition grounds. Scapa has become something of a 'ghost town' compared to days of old.

Mind you I only spend all that money in travelling and admission fees to regularly update my anti JM weaponry.
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mortonjag 2007-03-01 07:09:43
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 28 2007, 02:30 PM) [snapback]236968[/snapback]
Don’t bother BMFC, he is just not worth the hassle. He'll go away when we start winning again and if we do well in the 1st Division next season he'll go back to what ever other team he claims to have supported all his dull and pointless life. Partick Thistle I'd guess. Anyway, some advice, I find the best way to view his self important and tedious diatribe is like this.

You have chosen to ignore all posts from: mortonjag.

• View this post
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mortonjag 2007-03-01 07:14:10
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Feb 28 2007, 03:33 PM) [snapback]236985[/snapback]
In some strange unconscious sadomasochistic way I've actually grown quite attached to MortonJag's rumblings. We know how he feels about Jim and the rest of the management team, Dougie and his weans, and most of the posters on this site who have deluded themselves into believing that we are actually doing quite well this season and will continue to do so. Now of course I'm not saying that the repetitious and prickly manner in which he can often present his thought process is the best way of influencing people and making friends. However like the thistle or jaggy nettles somewhere there is a point to his existence.

Personally I blame Rabid for this!

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Edit to fix spelling - NEED TO REMEMBER SPELL CHECKING THINGY!!!

Your perspicacity belies your youth. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-01 07:16:02
McInally stated at the rally that "he doesn't even know how to turn a computer on."
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Can he turn ANYTHING on?
mortonjag 2007-03-01 07:21:54
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 28 2007, 03:50 PM) [snapback]236994[/snapback]
If the title goes to the wire can you imagine the press coverage ? They'll rehash all the recent promotion failures . The pressure would be immense on the whole club . When you think in recent weeks we have missed a barrow load of chances while losing silly goals .
We know that we are the big boys that everyone raises their game for but with the added incentive of keeping us in this league who can blame teams for wanting us to visit twice in numbers .
I cannot say that I am any less confident about winning the league now than I was at the start but as crazy as it appears I have less confidence that JM has made advancements in becoming a better manager .

We are as far ahead of the pack in material terms this year as Gre£na were of us last time-it should have been all over bar the shouting by now.

We will get promotion. JM will continue to prolong the agony, but our sheer advantage over the pack will get us there. I have EVERY faith in that.
mortonjag 2007-03-01 07:27:58
QUOTE(jpmil @ Feb 28 2007, 03:44 PM) [snapback]236993[/snapback]
As per this eveing's Telegraph Jim is not going to make any changes in the team until the league has been won and then fringe players will get their oppotunities.
Like most of us it seems strange to keep playing players who are patently not performing well but that certainly seems to be his "plan." His job on the line not mine!!!!

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Are you suggesting that JM's job's at risk?

Get a grip man-we're TOP-did you hear it-TOP of the league-he must be in for a bonus and massive pay hike!
mortonjag 2007-03-01 07:29:38
QUOTE(C B @ Feb 28 2007, 05:33 PM) [snapback]237014[/snapback]
Greacen is just awful at centre half - no alternative
McLaughlin is another of JMs pets, Walker is more physical, you don't need to be fast to play that role anyway !

Finlayson is a work horse who will knock his pan in for the cause and show up just about any primadona skill player who is off form - again no real alternative

McGowan IS our top scorer but Linn has scored more goals than him in the league so wheesht yerself !! McGowan hasnt hit the back of the net for waaaaaaay too long considering the chances he gets !!
Anyway, its a waste of time arguing because as the Tele says, Jim isn't changing anything !! 4 points in 4 games = Status Quo = Our manager is a stubborn mule

BUT WE'RE TOP OF THE LEAGUE! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-01 07:32:43
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 28 2007, 05:34 PM) [snapback]237016[/snapback]
You should forget politics AND football laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2007-03-01 07:42:58
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 1 2007, 06:54 AM) [snapback]237225[/snapback]
Go down to Cappielow just now , drive to Fir Park. If you do it in 43 minutes or less I'm a Dutchman

If I go down to Scapa tonight-well say at 4 a.m., and the polis are all asleep, I'll guarantee I can do it in well under half an hour-comfortably-and even sticking rigidly to speed limits it can be done in about 35 minutes.
mortonjag 2007-03-01 09:25:00
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Mar 1 2007, 09:02 AM) [snapback]237243[/snapback]
Maisano was signed by McPherson Walker was signed by Cowboy

Correct-all I meant was that they figured in Cowboy's plans. Neither was a 'do as I'm told' type-JM needs little automatons it seems.
mortonjag 2007-03-01 09:42:53
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 28 2007, 11:18 PM) [snapback]237164[/snapback]
i think the idea that getting wasted is an unnatural urge is bulls***. there's not one culture that doesn't use some form of perception-altering substance, whether it be for fun or as part of a belief system.

carl sagan wrote some good stuff about his use of cannabis. his take on it was that it allowed him to temporarily lose the cultural filters through which everyone sees their surroundings and see right into the fundamental nature of things.

i bet the first guy who came up with the concept of zero was off his nut at the time.

and by the way, the attitude of people who come across all high and mighty because they follow the prohibitive and ridiculous laws of the country they happen to live in makes me sick. it's none of anyone else's f***ing business what people choose to do to themselves, whether it's smoke a joint, pierce their dobber or commit suicide. it doesn't affect you in any way, so you can all ride your high horses over the f***ing horizon.

You are so mixed up son.

The idea of getting 'wasted'-as I understand it- is to be so out of control that you're not capable of reason, and unless you're locked in a steel safe, that state has knock on effects for your surroundings-physical, and interpersonal, even if, for example, you just pish the bed, and yer Mammy has to wash up after you.

Using mind altering substances moderately is different-alcohol and cannabis are just like a motor car. Used properly they can enhance society-otherwise not.

Carl Sagan never wrote anything while 'wasted'. That is impossible, and most hallucinatory, or other drug induced 'inspiration' gained from that state is lost in 'black out'.

Like it or not, we live in a society, and 'what people choose to do to themselves' IS other's business, and costs the tax payer a fortune in terms of ill health and crime.
mortonjag 2007-03-01 10:43:01
QUOTE(jpmil @ Mar 1 2007, 09:48 AM) [snapback]237254[/snapback]
"Of course I'm talking in relative terms. JM has been praised by me repeatedly for his ability to assemble a talented young squad, and get them super fit."

Someone made the above post and I have never noticed any difference in our "super" fitness level and that of any "part-time" team. Indeed we seem to lose a lot of "late" goals.

Am I alone in this observation?

Mea culpa jpmil-I made that comment in response to regular accusations of having a personal issue with JM which I do not.

I believe we ARE fitter than most 2nd division sides. Our performances against the 'Midden', the True Saints, Killie, and 'Well', have demonstrated that.

As far as I can see the loss of late goals is down to determination by others, rather than fitness, and to our inability to raise our game at the right time.

That's for JM to sort.
mortonjag 2007-03-01 10:48:43
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 1 2007, 10:34 AM) [snapback]237261[/snapback]
You must have used some pish gear.

Not at all Boozy, I've also had my daft moments, but note I apostrophised the word 'inspiration'.

We've had plenty of artistic talent produced under the influence of-well-lots of things, but 'art' is only answerable to subjective scrutiny.

The point I'm making is that logical and reasonable thought are blotted out, and the horrendous consequences nationwide are manifest.
mortonjag 2007-03-01 10:54:33
QUOTE(Lindberg6 @ Mar 1 2007, 10:41 AM) [snapback]237264[/snapback]
McInally is quoted on the telegraph website as saying

'We can’t tamper with the team at the minute. We want to get the league tied up and then we can give others a chance'

We all know there are guys in the team who are soooo out of form - how long is he going to keep playing these guys? There are a couple of guys in the team who seem to be automatic choices REGARDLESS of form - and that isn't right.

Guys like Walker, Finlayson, Linn, Keenan etc must be wondering what they have to do to get a start.

Precisely, and what angers me most of all is that we will win the league, and you, and I, and an increasing number of critics will be told 'he knew what he was doing', when he plainly hasn't a clue.

Before they start-I KNOW WE'RE TOP OF THIS PILE OF CRAP. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-01 11:00:03
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Mar 1 2007, 10:52 AM) [snapback]237269[/snapback]
Right OK so either way you can have a go at him, and you say you've nothing personal against the guy. As for "Rose tinted" specs, don't make me laugh. If you actually took time to read otherpeople's posts rather than dismissing them out of hand, you'd see that I've said 4 points from 12 and a lack of finishing up front is a worrying sign for a championship chasing team. Anyway my specs are tinted blue white and yellow.

Rather than my having a personal issue with JM, it's increasingly obvious that you have one with me.

I DON'T want reasons to criticise any Ton manager-but I'm NOT blind.

I carefully read all posts before replying, and have indeed observed your regular incongruities-fine for kaleidoscope specs to be critical, but NOT for me.
mortonjag 2007-03-01 11:07:09
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Mar 1 2007, 10:58 AM) [snapback]237271[/snapback]
Oh Christ, here we go again!! zzzzzzzz cool.gif . I don't think anyone in Cowboy's team was a "do as your told player" that's why they blew a 12 point lead and finished fourth when they should've walked the league.

That may be so, but they did achieve a 12 point lead in the first place. My point is that the current squad need some self belief and inventiveness. Half the time it looks as though they're scared to do anything that hasn't come straight out of the JM school of coaching. It's eminently clear that the 'teacher's pets' are guaranteed a place, week in, week out, when any experienced manager would be booting arses and ringing changes.
mortonjag 2007-03-01 11:12:12
QUOTE(rex manning @ Mar 1 2007, 11:08 AM) [snapback]237275[/snapback]
Mr Bill Hicks sums up my views on this quite beautifully...

"What business is it of yours what I do, read, buy, see, say, think, who I f@ck, what I take into my body – as long as I do not harm another human being on this planet?"

putting anyone in jail for having hash is ridiculous.

Was that Bill Hicks the famous hermit? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-01 11:19:58
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Mar 1 2007, 11:12 AM) [snapback]237277[/snapback]
For someone with so much self professed intelligence, it's taken you some while to figure that out. Perhaps if you stopped constantly moaning and patronising and belittling other people on here there wouldn't be a problem.

You are one of a few pathetic creatures who take me seriously.

You have no idea who I am, or what I do-only evidence on your little screen.

The only people I 'patronise and belittle' are those like yourself who put your heads on the chopping block, and invite the axe.

Most posters seem to have realised that three quarters of the time I'm 'tongue in cheek'.

I do not profess to be intelligent BMFC-I AM, and clearly a damned sight more than you are.

That is intended to sound patronising, and is also accurate.
mortonjag 2007-03-01 11:40:25 A guy steps into a railway carriage and sees, sitting opposite, a beautiful young student, deep in a book.

He asks, 'What are you studying'?

'The anatomy of various cultures', she replies, and I'm fascinated-who would have guessed for example, that the Red Indian penis is twice the average width, while Polish ones are double the normal length'?....

'Oh, and I'm Jane', she added.

'Delighted to meet you Jane', he replied, 'I'm Tonto Kawalski'.
mortonjag 2007-03-01 12:23:47
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 1 2007, 11:13 AM) [snapback]237279[/snapback]
As you very well know, you old pedant, I was referring to the the mood set by the poster's comments. To say we have not won an away league game in two months is factually correct but the way it is stated sets a negative spin to what has actually happened. I was merely pointing out that it is just as easy to put a positive spin on the same facts.

The last time we were this worried was following the defeat at Stirling and the draw with Forfar. Going into our away game at Brechin on 16 December we were only one point ahead and expecting to lose first place. Our players responded with an eight game unbeaten run. I am pretty sure that they can do so again.

I would also point out that, whilst I firmly believe that it's all in our own hands, the only team who can realistically catch us, Stirling, have only won three of their last eight games. Our own recent form might be poor but its not as patchy as Stirling's.

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mortonjag 2007-03-01 12:24:52
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Mar 1 2007, 11:23 AM) [snapback]237285[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif Who's riled now eh? Wasn't that difficult. Lighten up old chap.

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mortonjag 2007-03-01 12:30:14
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 1 2007, 11:34 AM) [snapback]237293[/snapback]
Rating the manager is not a black and white issue as there are many facets to the job to consider. MortonJag acknowledges (grudgingly concedes?) that Jim has done a good job in terms of signing players who are better than average in the second division and getting them as fit as any team. We agree on that.

His major criticism of JM seems to relate to his man management skills and also his tactical astuteness or lack thereof. I have some sympathy with his point of view but not the depth of his feeling on this.

In terms of man management, JM has shown himnself not to be frightened of confrontation and has cleared out players with attitude problems and dramatically improved that of some others. I give him great credit for that. On the other hand, if I have a man management criticism of him, it basically boils down to his unwillingness to use the squad, especially when some regulars are clearly in need of a rest.

I also think that there is some substance to his lack of tactical awareness but that is less of a problem now than it was and he has managed to turn some matches with a tactical switch, in some cases made after the first 15 mins or so. I reckon he will continue to improve in this area as he gains experience.

So, in my book Jim would score highly in some aspects of football management, averagely in others and some parts 'have room for improvement'. Overall though he still has my support as, in my view, his positives far outweigh his negatives.

Finally, on shouting/encouraging/berating players from the touchline during games, I was watching the Reading - Man Utd game the other night and noted that Steve Coppell prefers to watch from the stand as he gets a better feel for the play. Alan Hansen also commented that in his playing days he hated when the manager came shouting to the touchline. He also said that most players he knew felt the same. JM was a player who played at very high levels and maybe he knows that.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with Jim's ideas and philosophy, in that everything he's done or tried has previously been successful, at least in some measure elsewhere.

What I just can't get my head round, and what makes me SO frustrated with him, is that he seems TOTALLY INCAPABLE of changing his ideas when things plainly aren't ideal. Worse perhaps, maybe he thinks everything's OK.
mortonjag 2007-03-01 12:37:12
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 1 2007, 11:50 AM) [snapback]237300[/snapback]
I don't understand either why we have a squad but pick the same team week in week out whether they win lose or draw. This, to me is McInally's major weakness although I still believe he has other strengths and is basically a decent manager.

As far as his comments on Saturday's game go, he's right, we have seldom been so much on top, even in this league. I left that match totally shellshocked and bemused that we had contrived to lose it as did anyone who was there. I still say that the results against Brechin and Stranraer were more to do with bad luck than poor play. If half of the gilt edged chances in both games had been put away, if we lost a silly goal it would not have mattered. If we had had scored 3 or 4, its unlikely we would have lost any goals as the nervousness which set in the latter stages of the game would not have been there.

Incidentally, Greacen was shouting at Finlayson after the second goal as he obviously felt that their left back should have been tracked by Finlayson instead of left all on his own at the edge of the box.

Tonsilitis, how many league games have we played ALL season when we weren't 'in control'?

It's just become a habit, being the better team and still managing to draw or lose.

When did JM EVER do anything in a pre or post match comment, other than state the obvious?

If he'd said something like 'That's my best team-they controlled most of the game, but ultimately blew it again, and I'm going to have to make changes for next week', I'd have been one of the first to raise an eyebrow-AND my hat to him.
mortonjag 2007-03-01 12:40:31
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 1 2007, 11:42 AM) [snapback]237297[/snapback]
HEY mad.gif
tongue.gif

That one obviously died a death
mortonjag 2007-03-01 14:03:25
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Mar 1 2007, 01:59 PM) [snapback]237340[/snapback]
So were Ian Diack, Marc McCulloch and Stuart McCluskey...

And others!

I'm not a fan of Cowboy-I was merely pointing out that Maisano and Walker didn't fit once he left.
mortonjag 2007-03-01 15:17:45
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 1 2007, 02:13 PM) [snapback]237343[/snapback]
Of course nobody has ever fitted that description under any of our previous managers rolleyes.gif
Would I be correct in saying the MJ "dream team" would look something like this?

----------------??
-??---??----??-------------Alex Walker
Paul Walker-Maisano-??--Ryan Russell
-------??-----Jason Walke

I'm gonna load that squad into Football Manager tonight, I'll have the Champions League sewn up by 2009. biggrin.gif

No nacho-I don't do 'dream teams'-that's for dreamers. I do any 11 guys from a given squad who can go onto a football pitch and play for 90 minutes in a way which does them, and their manager's credibility a power of good. Teams like the Peterhead one who 'mugged us' in the play offs, just to quote an example.

We were fantastic against Killie-it can be done when things go right, but it's not been happening in three out of four league matches, and many posters are concerned.
mortonjag 2007-03-01 15:43:16
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Mar 1 2007, 02:57 PM) [snapback]237348[/snapback]
It would make sense for the train cabin to be a crumple zone, as in a car. The idea of a crumple zone is to absorb the shock of impact and stop the shock travelling through the cabin and up the train.

I think it's different M4RKO

A crumple zone can only work if it can distort enough to absorb the momentum leaving an internal safe area.

The momentum of a train is absolutely massive relative to a car. Even the most intricately designed crumple zone in the cabin would be squashed flat in a head on collision, at anything more than a few m.p.h.

Different, of course if there's no collision and it just goes off track and 'snakes' or rolls.
mortonjag 2007-03-01 16:19:55
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 1 2007, 03:47 PM) [snapback]237357[/snapback]
Paul Walker was offered new deal before he left here

It obviously wasn't to his liking.
mortonjag 2007-03-01 16:30:05
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Mar 1 2007, 04:12 PM) [snapback]237372[/snapback]
laugh.gif Love it!

Reminds me of a bumper sticker that I saw:

It wasn't me,
You can't prove it,
Nobody saw me,
The sheep are lying.

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..and the one about the old crofter and his solitary cow. He heard about artificial insemination. Again he had no idea what it entailed, but he managed to scrape together the fee. The vet duly arrived, walked into the byre, and took off his jacket, throwing it to the ground as he prepared to open his bag.

Seeing this, the hospitable old chap said, Och man, ah'll haud yer jaikit, an ye can hing yer troosers on that peg.
mortonjag 2007-03-01 16:38:03
QUOTE(McCauley87 @ Mar 1 2007, 03:59 PM) [snapback]237364[/snapback]
I think I will have to back M4RKO up cos I have studied this in one of my mechanics classes at uni last year and the train would be far safer for having the cabin as a crumple zone than if it was to be build as solid and reinforce as the rest of the train. It would be the impulse (change in momentum) than would cos the damage and since momentum is relative to the mass then there would be little, if any, difference between the impulse of a car and a train in a crash of similar nature. Although the momentum of a train would be a good deal greater than that of a car.

Momentum is mass X velocity.

A car going at 50 m.p.h and weighing one ton can hit a concrete block head on, and the passengers survive because the crumple zone effectively acts as a cushion absorbing that momentum.

The size of a railway engine cab is not hugely different from that of a car, yet the momentum of the train, and I'm only guessing here, will be a factor of hundreds if not thousands more, in a straight line, head on collision.

No crumple zone in the world will ever save the driver in such a scenario.
mortonjag 2007-03-02 08:05:44
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 1 2007, 04:47 PM) [snapback]237383[/snapback]

Indeed, a sensible article, with no mention of getting 'wasted'.

Looks more like Sagan used his pot responsibly like any good cook or toilet goer.
mortonjag 2007-03-02 08:13:32
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 2 2007, 12:24 AM) [snapback]237507[/snapback]
if this catches on, i'm out of here for good.

It has! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-02 08:23:12 I haven't studied the proposals in detail, but they appear to be a heavy handed and totally random secondary taxation.

It's all very well to talk about 'gas guzzlers' versus economy, but what about the 'essential user' versus the leisure driver.

Take for example, the farmer who uses his 4 x 4 for work. He probably does ONE main shopping a week, and takes the wife and weans with him.

Compare that to the WAGS in suburbia who are never out of their posh shaggin' wagons-shopping, socialising, clogging up roads at schools, and generally posing.

There must be thousands of such discrepancies.
mortonjag 2007-03-02 08:31:23
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Mar 1 2007, 07:50 PM) [snapback]237419[/snapback]
That will be from MJ laugh.gif

If JM doesn't play Linn from the start (a guy who'll be bursting a gut to put one over on his old mates), it's not his head I'll be crying for-I'll be sending him a business card from my Psychiatrist pal.

It's SO bloody obvious-will any of you JM supporters stand up and disagree?


Thinks....'mm-I wonder if 50 of those cards will be enough'? rolleyes.gif

A decent win is overdue, mind you. Ton 3 Blue Toon 0
mortonjag 2007-03-02 08:37:31
QUOTE(Savo @ Mar 2 2007, 12:18 AM) [snapback]237505[/snapback]
A conservative streak to the selection has definitely been a recent feature of things - but I wouldn't say Jim is 'totally incapable' of changing his ideas. Two examples spring to mind.

Firstly, he did drop Jamie (correctly, IMO) at the Motherwell game after a poor run of form - that was a pre-match change in selection of a player recognised as a 'first pick'.

Secondly, if you look at the Kilmarnock match, he reacted instantly to their goal by changing it around and shoving Finlayson on. That was a clear change in the approach during a game and an example of how he can see and react to events.

I don't think it's any coincidence both situations happened at cup matches. My take on it would be that Jim is more prepared to do things like this in an environment where the shackles are off a bit.

Basically, I think he is much less inclined to tinker when it comes to the league - simply because there is so much at stake for us.

His instinct is obviously that the players who are wobbling just now will play their way out of it. Let's hope they show on Saturday that they can do just that. smile.gif

I agree reluctantly!

Your last paragraph sums it up, and his instinct will be correct.

I've repeatedly said he relies on a decent squad, fitness, and the power of prayer.

We WILL get promotion despite him.
mortonjag 2007-03-02 08:40:01
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 2 2007, 01:54 AM) [snapback]237521[/snapback]
i'm with him. being in the presence of so many huns and tims always makes me feel nauseous.

You ARE nauseous, and you make me feel nauseated.
mortonjag 2007-03-02 08:43:31
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Mar 2 2007, 02:47 AM) [snapback]237543[/snapback]
No doubt, some smart arse will come on and say, well if only things were so simple bla bla bla.
All I'm stating is,back the players, back the manager and lets hopefully enjoy some success come the end of April.

It is indeed NOT simple.

The extra factor, over and above the substantial fan base, and solid history is MONEY.

Gre£na have done it minus the first two.
mortonjag 2007-03-02 08:46:21
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 1 2007, 04:42 PM) [snapback]237381[/snapback]
So you'll be heading along to watch the fans Challenge Cup in April then? rolleyes.gif

Wouldn't miss it for all the dead cells in JM's napper! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-02 08:51:59
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 1 2007, 09:29 PM) [snapback]237443[/snapback]
Well, sack the board, then!

Now there's a thought-mm-new poll...

Is JM in reality a Romanov style puppet.

WHO picks the teams at Scapa?

IS Chris Millar DDFR's illegitimate grandson?

Does 'Arfur' get a free supply of eggs and milk from Jimbo's lot?

Was that David McGregor seen creeping out of Crawford's car last night?

I'll work on it! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-02 08:57:15
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 2 2007, 07:57 AM) [snapback]237560[/snapback]
Ah, McCulloch. Who could forget wee Dougie selling him at the press conference. A shame it was his namesake that he was describing. Perhaps, wee Dougies worst bit of interference.

I always liked Walker. But he always seemed a bit too lightweight.

Like Jinky, and Wee Willie H.

FFS, when I was young, I remember an England international right back called Jimmy Armfield.

He was something of a revolution-an 'overlapping' full back!

Now it's gone full circle, and skilful 'old fashioned' wingers, who were a huge attraction, seem to have virtually disappeared.
mortonjag 2007-03-02 09:12:46
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Mar 2 2007, 08:58 AM) [snapback]237574[/snapback]
well said sir.
Know alls who know f*** all !

Takin' the piss out of 'know alls' who think they know better! wub.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-02 09:23:53 To

Jon Bon Jovi (45 today), and Mortonjag (old enough to be his father), and to any others unlisted. cool.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-02 09:25:02
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 1 2007, 09:51 PM) [snapback]237451[/snapback]
Jim McInally texted me last night and said arrangements havent been made for pre-season yet and that the squad are still focussed on trying to win the league at the moment.

Had he used 'spell check' ?
mortonjag 2007-03-02 09:55:31
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 2 2007, 08:33 AM) [snapback]237567[/snapback]
Morton 2 Peterhead 0
Forfar 1 Brechin 4
Cowdenbeath 1 Raith Rovers 2
Stirling Albion 1 Alloa Athletic 1
Stranraer 0 Ayr United 0 - really exciting trip for them in front of very few people.

Fulham 1 Aston Villa 2 biggrin.gif Jonaton/Savo, keep me up to date with events at Cappielow and I'll let you know what's happening at Craven Cottage!

Ton 3 Toon 0
Loons 1 s***ty 2
Beath 1 Rovers 1
Binos 2 Wasps 1
Stranny 3 Liars 1
mortonjag 2007-03-02 10:13:26
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Feb 28 2007, 11:35 PM) [snapback]237178[/snapback]
LIVERPOOL

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My grandad was a 'scouser' who came to Greenock with the Navy during World War 1, and met and married my Gran. They lived in Holmscroft St.

He was an argumentative old c*nt, (maybe why I'm called after him!), -black was ALWAYS white, and he couldn't see past his 'local' team down south, so I always told him I supported the two Tons-ours and Everton, but in truth I'm not fond of toffee, not even Buchanans!
mortonjag 2007-03-02 10:32:56 people and their short memories.

When Mathers arrived, quite a few felt sorry for Davie, but the majority were praising JM's wisdom in finally getting an experienced player to help our kids.

We then went on a good run, and just about everybody was commenting on how the defence had 'tightened up' and was making far less unforced errors. Mathers, it seems, was behind the improvement.

Inevitably, having gone through a bad patch, he's now the villain of the piece.

Coyle was an excellent reflex keeper, but was too short, and a nightmare in the air.

McGurn is a far more reliable all rounder.

As I've said before, Mathers record speaks for itself.
mortonjag 2007-03-03 08:51:01
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Mar 2 2007, 11:15 AM) [snapback]237610[/snapback]
MortonJag

Is it your Birthday today or have a mis-interpreted the post ??

If it is, how come you’re celebrating it early as you were only born 68 DAYS ago on Chrimbo Day 2006 huh.gif

Because I'm equivalent to royalty-I have a real, and an official birthday.

I visited Greenock for the first time on 2nd March many years ago.

My official birthday is that of the board Messiah. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-03 08:52:17
QUOTE(GazTon @ Mar 2 2007, 01:26 PM) [snapback]237647[/snapback]
Saying happy birthday to yourself on a messageboard, loser. laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2007-03-03 08:56:36
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 2 2007, 08:13 PM) [snapback]237746[/snapback]
ahem
what - on the M25? laugh.gif

YES-maybe not the M25 in particular, but most motorways run through countryside in case you hadn't noticed-you know -that place where there are cows, and fields, and farmers, and things! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-03 09:16:04
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Mar 3 2007, 09:00 AM) [snapback]237861[/snapback]
The first two are no brainers but the last one has got me thinking. Need to get back to you on that one.

Wylie was the better goalie, but it was definitely Brucie who was more skilful in man management.

Conning the opposition with 'Nice to see you', as we knocked in the goals while they looked back and replied like sheep.

And his all time Best -'c'mon me lovelies POINTS MAKE PROMOTION, really got that young side going.

Don't get goalies like that anymore.
mortonjag 2007-03-03 09:22:36
QUOTE(bonzo @ Mar 2 2007, 10:51 AM) [snapback]237600[/snapback]
Morton 2 Heid 2

First scorer Keogh

Go the Heid !!!!!!!!!!!!!

All the best to all posters on the board, i am ready for the abuse.

I like 'the Heid' Bonzo, and the only so called Toon supporter I hate is that c*nt Mileson, who appeared at the evening game at Scapa near the end of last season to 'support his friends'.


I take it he's been up your way a lot since they bought promotion! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-03 09:27:59 [quote name='Tonosaurus' date='Mar 2 2007, 02:31 PM' post='237665']
I know it's not everyones cup of tea to belt out into song by themselves, but an encouraging shout is easy...listen and learn Mortonjag wink.gif
Mortonjag was belting out songs with the bugler and the rest before many of the current fans were born.

I always support the team, NEVER leave before the end of a match, NEVER boo, and pay a small fortune to attend EVERY game home, and away.

I am a true 'died in the wool' Ton supporter and will be 'til they put me in the box.

If that f*cking manager doesn't buck up his ideas, it could be sooner rather than later. wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-03 09:41:22
QUOTE(rex manning @ Mar 2 2007, 11:52 AM) [snapback]237621[/snapback]
4 - 2 morton.

Usual display. terrible defending and breathtaking attacking..... well maybe not breath taking.

As a JM supporter I dont think he should start with Linn, if its at the expense of Temps or McGowan.

As a JM doubter I agree-Temps and Linn up front, Gowser in midfield, and Millar on the bench.

I DO rate Midge-he needs a wee rest.
mortonjag 2007-03-03 09:43:47
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Mar 2 2007, 08:08 PM) [snapback]237744[/snapback]
Who would you drop?

Templeman's been our main goal threat so I take it you'd leave Gowser out who for me is the most under-valued team member by far.

He's the man that links midfield and attack and imo would be sorely missed.

4-3-3 isn't even an option.

Millar.
mortonjag 2007-03-03 09:47:42
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Mar 2 2007, 01:47 PM) [snapback]237658[/snapback]
Almost some praise for JM there Mortonjag - you're losing your touch. tongue.gif

I NEVER lose my touch, and am always in total command of my area! blink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-03 10:00:47
QUOTE(craigeton @ Mar 2 2007, 02:16 PM) [snapback]237664[/snapback]
So "winning the league this year and a slot half way up the first division next year" to you means failure and "St James is a bit of Pishley and was never a football manager."
If offered I would take that right now no problem and so would most of the Morton support, but to you that means he should be sacked. Any manager who could get promotion and consolidate his position in the next league would have done a good job. If we win this league i happen to think we will do better than half way up the first, but if that's what was to happen it would be respectable and in no way a failure.
I take it what you mean is unless he wins back to back titles he should be sacked. I suppose if he were to do this you would then say he had to win the s.p.l.
This just highlights the amount of rubbish you come away with on this board. And the fact that you have some misguided deep rooted hatred for our manager.

Right you-enough's enough.

I ADMIT IT-I HATE JM WITH A PASSION! mad.gif

WORSE-it's an indiscriminate hatred.

It has nothing to do with him blowing promotion and going back on his promise to quit. (after all we were MASSIVE underdogs against Peterhead, and in reality he did rather well to get a draw in the second game).

It has nothing to do with bizarre tactics, and substitutions.

It has even less to do with his blind and pig- headed refusal to make necessary changes.

Least of all does it relate in any way to his abysmal motivation and man management.


SORRY-I JUST HATE THE C*NT ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-03 10:02:36
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 2 2007, 09:11 PM) [snapback]237758[/snapback]
Absolute codswallop old boy. Coyle was mince and generally his 'great shop stopping' (copyrite) abilities were the end result of his appalling basic mistakes.

Due deference to your superior knowledge Mr Sorensen!
mortonjag 2007-03-03 10:05:47
QUOTE(leyTON @ Mar 3 2007, 01:03 AM) [snapback]237820[/snapback]
BRING BACK ANDRE BOE!!!!!!!!!
sorry this post was getting a bit heavy
i vote mcgurn gets back in
not like me to agree with mortonjag but mathers record does speak for itself
the defence seems less cohesive with mathers in and he was supposed to be the great organiser

Doesn't matter how good you are at organising if the guys in front can't learn from their mistakes.
mortonjag 2007-03-03 10:12:56
QUOTE(Savo @ Mar 3 2007, 01:42 AM) [snapback]237836[/snapback]
That last sentence doesn't really square with your third.

Leaving aside the 'power of prayer' remark, the decent squad you refer to is mainly Jim McInally's.

As for the fitness levels - that was also brought about by a new regime installed by the manager, who insisted on having the players regularly tested at Dundee Uni etc.

Like everyone else you are perfectly entitled to your view, but I really don't think it's fair or accurate to say promotion will arrive despite the manager.

I HATE that pathetic ballad-'I did it my way', which should read 'If I'd listened, learned, and not been so bloody stubborn, I'd have got there a damned sight quicker'. wink.gif

The value of any 'achievement' must always be assessed in relative, and NOT absolute terms.

Pyrrhic victories are JUST THAT.
mortonjag 2007-03-03 10:24:29
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 3 2007, 09:00 AM) [snapback]237860[/snapback]
Who is your dad Leyton? I go to the games with Rab so I'll probably know him.

As for 'his article', I wish people wouldn't get so worked up about it. It's only one man's opinion and most of it is complete nonsense anyway. And if it annoys people so much why don't they actually write to the paper instead of spouting pish on here? Oh I nearly forgot, that would involve effort.

That said DM, with a 'handle' like COCK RING, he shouldn't be tampering with names.

If he wrote for the Telegraph I'd perhaps refer to him as 'Mr vaginal introitus', but the 'Ranger' !!! wacko.gif

Na' jist a wee C*NT. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-03 10:27:21
QUOTE(Capuan @ Mar 3 2007, 10:05 AM) [snapback]237876[/snapback]
Morton 2-0 Peterhead
I also predict the exact same team that started last week.

When did stating the obvious become a prediction? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-03 10:33:47 I've got to admit I find Mr Boozehound's wee picture quite stimulating.

Now I'm off for a quick J. Arthur, after which I'll have some thoughts about her intelligence, money, personality etc! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-03 10:48:58
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 3 2007, 10:26 AM) [snapback]237884[/snapback]
Unfortunately that entire post has just gone completely over my head.

Whit-like a giraffe's baws-think about it man-COCK = vernacular for ? RING is-well-a 'ring'.

Or were you just takin' the piss? blink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-04 08:53:55
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Mar 3 2007, 10:56 PM) [snapback]238144[/snapback]
Never been an admirer of Gretna... and I'm even less so after today! Put a 'daft' bet on today... 18 (yes 18!) results on my fixed odds. Put a fiver on that for a potential return of 564 pounds... got 17 results correct, just Gretna let me down... ****** *******s.

I sympathise-you wouldn't have seen that one coming.

I had a wee sneaky thought that Q of S might do well after their recent form boost, but the result is astonishing.

Could it be that the SPL has lost its shine a wee bit for Llama Man? sleep.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-04 09:01:14
QUOTE(GazTon @ Mar 3 2007, 01:07 PM) [snapback]237938[/snapback]
Never saw Andy Ritchie play, but I'd imagine many people overrate him.

I may be wrong, but surely if he's being compared to Beckham (a guy with almost 100 England caps) and is better than any Brazilian Alan Rough has seen, he would have been able to break into the national team?

Just a thought.

It wasn't a case of him being unable to 'break into' the national side.

Everybody knew he was good enough, but there was bias against him for a number of reasons, mostly the fact that he wasn't a full timer.

In those days GazTon, skill was far from the only requisite for a cap.

If you were half decent and played for the OF, your place was more or less guaranteed, unless somebody REALLY special played in the same position for a big club down south.
mortonjag 2007-03-04 09:04:53
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 4 2007, 01:23 AM) [snapback]238169[/snapback]
until my eyes bled! there's nothing wrong with dumb blondes, people.

good shout on catherine deneuve, takcap. i watched belle de jour the other day for the first time and was astonished at her full, round buttocks. most impressive. jeanne moreau is another bit of vintage french totty i particularly admire (well, lust after). france is some country - it gave us deneuve, moreau and bardot; england gave us barbara windsor.

i am also disturbed at young deego's lack of sex drive. when i was sixteen i shagged a hole in a tree. sounds like the kid has some thinkin to do

Still usin' the same bit o' wid big dick? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-04 09:07:36
QUOTE(Loveless @ Mar 3 2007, 04:56 PM) [snapback]238000[/snapback]
Dr. Gault is probably your best bet as he's still mainly NHS.

Or I can highly recommend the Dental Hospital in Glasgow where you will get FREE treatment, but it will be done by students.

Unconscious humour? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-04 09:14:04
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Mar 3 2007, 07:13 PM) [snapback]238071[/snapback]
....and what a nightmare of a game he had today. Flapped at a few crosses, his kicking from pass backs were poor, and looked a bit lost at times. He gave usour first goal with a poor kick out (ok he had rain and a strong wind right in his face!) and had no chance for the second goal.

EXACTLY Iain- right from the kick off you could see that guy was a nervous wreck. How he walked off the pitch after 90 minutes without having had to make one decent save is a total mystery to me.

We should have HAMMERED that goal at every opportunity from every angle and distance, and if we had played our striker, we'd probably been at least two up by half time. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-04 09:18:23 Millar showed some nice touches, but is not playing anything like the way he can. Jimbo was ineffective yet again, except when tracking back, and Scotty has just NO imagination.

Deano looked great in the short time he got, and even Alex Walker got a half decent shot in near the end.

We really MUST shake things up in midfield.
mortonjag 2007-03-04 09:23:30 I didn't think the ref was that great TBH, but he certainly didn't behave like some of the arrogant prima donnas we've come to hate.

More a case of inexperience than anything if you ask me.
mortonjag 2007-03-04 09:30:29 Our defence were unbelievably nervous yesterday-you could FEEL it. Ryan was the worst culprit, but Greacen, McGregor, and Spoonsy also made silly unforced errors.

Yet again, and at this late stage in the season, it's obvious those boys need somebody playing alongside who can take control of a game, and calm them down.
mortonjag 2007-03-04 09:33:55
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 3 2007, 09:54 PM) [snapback]238131[/snapback]
Perhaps that is McInally's masterplan laugh.gif Better not say that there will be a few posters pressuring shoogily to give him a longer deal

After yesterday's latest helping of crass managerial ineptitude chris, I've decided to order it now. If it has to be done in too much of a hurry, the family won't get a discount! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-04 09:42:42 Mathers, Spoonsy, and Stevenson put in good shifts.

Davie McG played OK, as did Stu, but for the second week in a row the latter allowed himself to be backed into, and that was the cause of their goal. Ryan was just all over the place.

McAlister, Millar and McLaughlin were not at the races.

Sanny did his fair bit, as did Gowser, but a Sanny-Linn partnership is a must IMO.

I don't like player ratings.

Managerial ratings are different.

Pele 7

St James 2
mortonjag 2007-03-04 09:46:20
QUOTE(SramTon @ Mar 3 2007, 11:58 PM) [snapback]238158[/snapback]
Correct.

It's funny that if there's one player in this Morton team that I'm absolutely 100% confident in my judgement of it's Greacen, yet only two other regular posters seem to think the same way.

If only one addition is made to next season's squad it has to be an experienced and solid (that's actually solid, not just a dance of the seven veils perceived solid) centre-half.

On form Stu is an excellent player at 2nd division level.
mortonjag 2007-03-04 09:54:23
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Mar 4 2007, 01:28 AM) [snapback]238171[/snapback]
What is really pathetic is that all you tossers have nothing better to do than rubbish a Morton supporter who does his bit for the cause by taking the time and effort to give the Ton a mention in a national newspaper - so what its a rag, so what its not a journalistic masterpiece and why is it a suprise that its his personal opinion - he writes it ffs!

If there was nothing in the section about Morton you would be bleeting jus the same - if you dont like it do something about it - write something better! You rubbish the guy for coming up with a nick name for a player and call him "cock ring" - am I the only one who sees the rank hypocrisy here!

COCK RING is his name-is it not?

I'm sorry if I'm mistaken as I don't regularly read the 'Ranger', (even if I DO know it has a football pull out section).

Maybe if he stopped taking those daft nicknames from 'Tales of the Riverbank', and gave the players some more imaginitive ones he'd get some credibility.

A cock ring is a FANNY. smile.gif

mortonjag 2007-03-04 09:59:55 OH PLEASE !!!

CAN I be the first to say that St James of the impeccable gameplan has decreed that Spoonsy is a right back---


AND HE'S AGREED wacko.gif


Well he WOULD, wouldn't he? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-04 10:07:28 Left footed, and would be an excellent aquisition.

FFS that would give us TWO left footers in the side (excluding our goalie).

On second thoughts-na' keep it the way it is-after all we're top of the league. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-04 10:31:13 I'm sorry-well not really-JM's a clot. mad.gif

Three or four weeks ago he was rabbiting on about Stevenson lacking confidence and claimed, 'The boy doesn't realise how good he is'. Yesterday, for the first time Jamie showed flashes of his true ability, culminating in a cracking goal. You could SEE the change in his body language immediately-he looked less 'stressed' and more 'up for it' than for many a long day.

St James subs him.

In yesterday's programme our manager says-

'I was delighted for Bobby Linn. It was important for him to get his first goal for the club, and he also scored a cracker last week for the reserves. He's very sharp, lively, and always carries a threat with his pace and finishing.'

St James leaves him on the bench.

And later-

'In all my time in football I have never seen a team with such an excellent attitude towards everything that they do, as this team. As long as it continues then we will hopefully have something to celebrate come the final day of the season'.

JM-your team went on yesterday looking like a bunch of frightened kids, and most of them played like it.

You wouldn't sign an experienced 'old head' would you? Would that have undermined your 'rod of iron' authority?

As far as I'm concerned you've reached your level of incompetence. We WILL get promotion IN SPITE OF YOU.

I suggest that you then chuck management and go back to coaching, where you ARE experienced, thereby saving yourself and the Ton support another season of frustrating embarrassments.

Oh, and I KNOW-we're top of the league.

mortonjag 2007-03-04 10:42:52
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 4 2007, 10:39 AM) [snapback]238217[/snapback]
I'm glad someone else thought so as well, because i said so to my mate at the game and he said it was just a s***e clearing header by Greacen. Ref wasn't bad to be honest, probably one of the best this season actually which proves how bad the officials are at this level!

Stu was backed into in exactly the same way as Michael Moore did last week before Stranny's goal.

Both times he was 'technically' fouled, but he needs to learn how to stand his ground and not always rely on a Ref's decision.
mortonjag 2007-03-04 10:50:11 Mathers

Weatherson Harding Greacen McGregor


Millar Stevenson McLaughlin McAlister

Templeman McGowan


Subs


McGurn, Walker, Keenan, Russell, Linn.


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Oh-and the result-just more of the same-might scrape a win-you never know.
mortonjag 2007-03-04 11:03:40 Re. the Stranraer game.

I had to leave the game early on Saturday, as I was catching the evening boat to Arran where I have been enjoying a few days holiday, so I didn't see the latter part of the second half, during which time we lost the two goals. When I heard the score at full time I just could not believe it!! .....I was sure the radio commentator had got it wrong but a subsequent call to Andy Bryan proved that out of the possible the impossible had been achieved'.

Aye right Sir, what you mean is you jooked off for an earlier boat 'cos you thought we'd cracked it... or there again I may be misjudging you. I do remember seeing an auld guy wi' grey hair, a rucksack and hiking boots greetin' his face off in a lay by as we drove past. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-04 11:18:42
QUOTE(lemmington @ Mar 4 2007, 10:58 AM) [snapback]238228[/snapback]
Assuming we reach the 1st division,we should be focusing on a higher standard of player.
St Johnstone got Derek McInnes,Partick got Derek Young therefore I see no reason
that we should be attracting a similar type of player.

When you say 'higher standard' don't you really mean 'over the hill but very experienced'?

The reason I ask is that while I agree we'll need players like those you mention, we'll also need improving youngsters and Cameron's got good potential IMO.
mortonjag 2007-03-04 11:23:21
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 4 2007, 11:18 AM) [snapback]238236[/snapback]
Harding.
Never put in a good tackle all day!!

JM-sat on his arse scratching his head as usual. I wish somebody would give him a copy of the 'Beano' to read. He'd look much less like an Egyptian Mummy, and who knows, he might get some NEW ideas.

After all it IS a comic.
mortonjag 2007-03-04 11:25:59
QUOTE(piehutt @ Mar 4 2007, 11:23 AM) [snapback]238242[/snapback]
Millar was constantly up against 2 defenders as Weatherson didn't bother his arse to overlap once.

No wonder he couldn't find any space.

Folks need to watch the whole game instead of just picking up on one thing and moaning.

You ain't perchance picking up on one thing and moaning? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-04 11:27:51
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Mar 4 2007, 11:23 AM) [snapback]238245[/snapback]
Wasnt that just someone off the ARTC bus laugh.gif

He looked quite sober TBH! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-04 11:40:30
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Mar 3 2007, 08:06 PM) [snapback]238092[/snapback]
its to do with his contract, the more complete games he has this season then alloa get more money at the end of this season. it was something that he demanded in his contract before he signed as a thank you to alloa

Aye right-you're at the wind up.

If that were the case, they could 'sub' him after 89 minutes.

'Ah but Alloa would REALISE what was happening then' I hear you reply! rolleyes.gif

Are you really suggesting that DDFR is prostituting our promotion chances to save a few bob in compensation to the Wasps, when he's baling us out to the tune of almost a million a year?
mortonjag 2007-03-04 11:43:49
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Mar 4 2007, 11:29 AM) [snapback]238248[/snapback]
Or maybe JM in disguise due to the result and DDR told him he wasnt allowed to travel back on the team bus dry.gif

He looked quite intelligent TBH.
mortonjag 2007-03-04 11:47:18
QUOTE(Loveless @ Mar 4 2007, 11:38 AM) [snapback]238251[/snapback]
No.

So you 'HIGHLY RECOMMEND' entrusting the care of your beloved gnashers to a bunch of 'L Plate' mouth mechanics? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-04 11:51:39
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Mar 4 2007, 11:44 AM) [snapback]238257[/snapback]
Just as well your not an accountant, the running costs of the club require nothing like £1M a year in Doogie's subsidy.

OK maybe it's almost £100, 000, and not almost a million, and I'd never have been an accountant-the most boring job imaginable!

Irrespective, are you agreeing or disagreeing with my point specky?
mortonjag 2007-03-04 19:11:35
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Mar 4 2007, 11:51 AM) [snapback]238259[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2007-03-04 19:16:53
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 4 2007, 12:22 PM) [snapback]238267[/snapback]
Others on here have accused you of onanism Mr Mortonjag. Does this confirm anything ? laugh.gif

It does indeed DE, but I forgot the J Arthur's closed on a Sunday, so I won't be able to make my deposit 'til the morning. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-04 19:23:48
QUOTE(Loveless @ Mar 4 2007, 12:59 PM) [snapback]238274[/snapback]
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I know what you mean, but its all supervised, and its free.

Plus you have the added excitement of not knowing if the wrong tooth is going to be pulled out.

I'd go in a flash if I was in severe pain, but let's be honest, it's not to be highly recommended for your six monthly check up, or that once in a while implant!
mortonjag 2007-03-04 19:28:57
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Mar 4 2007, 05:30 PM) [snapback]238340[/snapback]
Ryan Harding, on his day, is comfortably the best defender in this league, and has the potential to go a long way in the game.
HOWEVER, I'm not sure he's ever going to realise it at Cappielow, under McInally. Don't get me wrong, I like Greacen, but it's obvious he's never going to play above mid/top 1st Division level at best and has been terrible of late. As such, the way forward for us is to sign an older, experienced player to guide Ryan through the game - to tell him when to step out, when to take a touch or when to just hit the bloody thing over the Cowshed and so on.
On top of that, though, is that Ryan, like a number of other players, seems to have a bit of an attitude problem (step forward Mr Millar, for one - started the season well and was starting to win me over, but descended into his usual mediocre, bottling self soon enough) in that he seems to think he's better than he is. Again, your looking to your manager to boot these guys in the baws, and also the old-heads in the team to combat that - we have neither a voice of experience on the park, nor, would it seem a manager remotely capable of flinging tea-cups.

I concur! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-04 19:29:04
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Mar 4 2007, 05:30 PM) [snapback]238340[/snapback]
Ryan Harding, on his day, is comfortably the best defender in this league, and has the potential to go a long way in the game.
HOWEVER, I'm not sure he's ever going to realise it at Cappielow, under McInally. Don't get me wrong, I like Greacen, but it's obvious he's never going to play above mid/top 1st Division level at best and has been terrible of late. As such, the way forward for us is to sign an older, experienced player to guide Ryan through the game - to tell him when to step out, when to take a touch or when to just hit the bloody thing over the Cowshed and so on.
On top of that, though, is that Ryan, like a number of other players, seems to have a bit of an attitude problem (step forward Mr Millar, for one - started the season well and was starting to win me over, but descended into his usual mediocre, bottling self soon enough) in that he seems to think he's better than he is. Again, your looking to your manager to boot these guys in the baws, and also the old-heads in the team to combat that - we have neither a voice of experience on the park, nor, would it seem a manager remotely capable of flinging tea-cups.

I concur! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-04 19:32:10
QUOTE(craigeton @ Mar 4 2007, 06:11 PM) [snapback]238352[/snapback]
Just shows how irrelevent your postings are, when you can give the winning manager 2 and the losing manager 7.
How about the support i.e. you, a big fat 0.

Do I hear a voice in the wilderness? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-04 19:35:13
QUOTE(Zutons @ Mar 4 2007, 06:33 PM) [snapback]238360[/snapback]
At last someone with some sense

Some people never change-well JM and about two posters.

It's played out mate, and the tide has rapidly swung. We got three points yesterday-Spoonsy got us out of jail.
mortonjag 2007-03-04 19:47:24
QUOTE(craigeton @ Mar 4 2007, 06:44 PM) [snapback]238362[/snapback]
Far too sensible a post mate, you must be in the wrong forum.

You and your diminishing band of blinkered sycophants are doing the TON more HARM than the rest of us.

All you EVER come up with is, 'We're top of the league'.

Has it still not penetrated your pea sized crania that we got to the play offs comfortably last season?

WHAT did that prove?

We are STILL in this s***hole of a division, where s***ty football is played by s***ty part timers. To be top by a few points at this stage of the season is far less than the Bookies would have predicted-just LOOK at the odds last August.

We are stuttering blindly towards promotion purely on the strength and quality of a full time squad, and an infra structure others can't dream of.

Our manager is becoming an increasing liability week by week.
mortonjag 2007-03-04 19:56:51
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Mar 4 2007, 04:56 PM) [snapback]238331[/snapback]
But not half as funny (or predictable) as you. When we win this league, as a 'loyal' fan, you'll no doubt be one of the first in line to pat Jim on the back - hypocrite. mad.gif

I have no intention of lining up to 'pat JM on the back'. I AM a loyal fan of Greenock Morton, and unlike many of the weans on the forum, am much to old and wise to 'idolise' people for doing their jobs properly.

I have consistently stated we WILL win this league DESPITE him. I am guilty of opinionation and outspokenness, but not of hypocrisy.

In the event of my prediction being wrong, you and your kind are the hypocrites who will be first to slate the manager.
mortonjag 2007-03-04 19:58:35
QUOTE(craigeton @ Mar 4 2007, 07:00 PM) [snapback]238364[/snapback]
As are you

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mortonjag 2007-03-04 20:10:10 I hereby proffer my sincere and humble apologies to Mr Cochrane.

In my naievety, and rarely reading the 'Daily Record', I took 'c***RING' to be his true name.

Narky Arky has much to answer for-let's face it, the average sports hack is a shy, retiring, and easily offended chap, in whose mouth butter would not melt. wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-04 20:13:08
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 4 2007, 08:03 PM) [snapback]238396[/snapback]
OK we heard you the first time.. Ya old slapper

Good! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-04 20:13:29
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 4 2007, 08:03 PM) [snapback]238396[/snapback]
OK we heard you the first time.. Ya old slapper

Good! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-04 20:18:49
QUOTE(craigeton @ Mar 4 2007, 08:11 PM) [snapback]238402[/snapback]
it's what's called an echo

You've lost the plot sonny boy. It may have been a relative echo a few months ago when the 'Taxi' thread started, but I'm STILL waiting to hear a single post in JM's favour, which says anything except 'We're top of the league'.

Take that as a challenge if you wish-his C.V's becoming more blotted by the week, and it seems that even the previously faithful are deserting St James of the immaculate gameplan.
mortonjag 2007-03-04 20:23:04
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Mar 4 2007, 08:06 PM) [snapback]238397[/snapback]
Ok ok i give in.
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mortonjag 2007-03-04 20:25:02
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Mar 4 2007, 08:01 PM) [snapback]238395[/snapback]
No chance. I swore off alcohol 20 years ago.

...and gave up sex the day later? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-04 20:31:09
QUOTE(Inver_Ton @ Mar 4 2007, 08:26 PM) [snapback]238419[/snapback]
Jees oh.

I've been one of McGowans biggest critics this season because i know he is a really good player and showed that at the beginning before going off the boil. But since the Motherwell game, he's came back & is his busy self again. He's one player that deserves his place upfront and that's with Templeman.

Linn cant just walk into the team. And especialy can't walk into a frontline that, imo, are playing well together.

The thing that is preventing us score more goals has finally been sorted, hopefully.

That is the fact of moving Millar & Stevenson back to their natural positions. Stevenson will create plenty of chances from centre mid because he knows how to pick a pass & will also get his fair share of goals. Millar also had his best game in a number of weeks playing out on the right where he looks more comfortable.

I agree with you morton_jag, changes are good. I would have maybe have made a change for Saturdays game to freshen things up a bit after a defeat in the way we suffer at stranny, but changing a team after a win will just effect confidence even more.

Think about it that way.

C'mon the Ton.

When Gowser's form dropped he was not.

He has regained that form, and I agree is well worth a place but NOT alongside Sanny, who's crying out for a sharp poaching striker to feed off him.

As far as I can see, the stubborn persistence with McAlister, McLaughlin, and Millar has meant that the wee guy's seen as a striker, which he is not.
mortonjag 2007-03-04 20:34:51
QUOTE(Torro @ Mar 4 2007, 08:30 PM) [snapback]238420[/snapback]
aye , in your own wee special world , ya tool !!!

in the real world the managers had us playing to consistently high standard for nigh on two seasons now and we,re on course to win the league losing 4 games this season.....enjoy yer sad wee world

In the 'real world', you wouldn't happen to be JM's ten year old son? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-04 20:40:46
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Mar 4 2007, 08:36 PM) [snapback]238425[/snapback]
So, you think that because I don't drink I don't get laid? You must be upside yo' mind.

Just in case....the answer is "no."

Only asked! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-04 20:47:05
QUOTE(leyTON @ Mar 4 2007, 08:15 PM) [snapback]238405[/snapback]
harding may have got the persil award
but i think the "i knew that invisibility cloak would come in handy" award goes to mclaughlin
you wouldnt have known he was there

I think Scotty often gets accused of invisibility. My brother suggested I should WATCH him for half an hour, rather than following the flow of play. Sure enough, the amount of work he gets through is phenomenal.

Having said that, he's one of the most conservative, and unimaginitive midfielders I've ever seen, and having watched Deano's performance yesterday, I feel he deserves a chance in SM's place.
mortonjag 2007-03-04 20:49:57 Eh-no Pavarotti?

I don't think Jagger would thank you for being called a 'singer', and even Lennon would have had a wee cynical smile at being on that list.
mortonjag 2007-03-04 20:55:58
QUOTE(big B @ Mar 4 2007, 08:52 PM) [snapback]238439[/snapback]
Cappie the Cat strained his tail in the warm up yesterday extremley doubtful for Saturday

Don't believe a word of it-just another of JM's cunning ruses to beguile the Wasps.

I confidently predict Cappie will be in the starting eleven-but of course am unable to reveal my sources for reasons of professional confidentiality. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-04 20:58:44
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Mar 4 2007, 08:43 PM) [snapback]238432[/snapback]
I don't know about in Scotland, but if one is sober and the one you're having sex with is drunk (or stoned), then it's rape......
You should've known that answer.....

Even if she said 'I love to get pissed and finish of the evening with a good shag'? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-05 06:48:30
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Mar 4 2007, 08:52 PM) [snapback]238440[/snapback]
Never tongue.gif

Aye! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-05 06:50:20
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 4 2007, 11:57 PM) [snapback]238516[/snapback]
Russell Brand is well suited for presenting 'analyses' of Big Brother. He's a f***wit's f***wit(apologies to Mr McArthur and any Daily Rubbish readers).
Harry Hill is brill. biggrin.gif

Both f***wits IMHO mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-05 06:56:33
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 4 2007, 09:23 PM) [snapback]238455[/snapback]
two strikers not enough for you

Back to the old debate eh, Bryan. Sanny's been acting as our 'frontman', and Gowser's an attacking midfielder.

When I say 'striker', I mean 'striker'-a la Bobby Linn.
mortonjag 2007-03-05 06:59:35
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 4 2007, 09:16 PM) [snapback]238452[/snapback]
aye his winning off most games will put other chairman off him smile.gif

Cheeky boy! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-05 07:03:31
QUOTE(craigeton @ Mar 4 2007, 09:37 PM) [snapback]238466[/snapback]
Talking of losing the plot,you really need to get a grip, what you do not seem to understand is that the object of the exercise is to WIN THE LEAGUE. This is not an excuse, this is what the team and manager set out to do at the start of the season. If they do it they have done their job. AND it will have been done despite you and your constant sniping and petty criticism's.

Correct, but it does not invalidate the criticisms.

As I said in another post, a Pyrrhic victory is just that.
mortonjag 2007-03-05 07:08:12
QUOTE(Torro @ Mar 4 2007, 09:03 PM) [snapback]238449[/snapback]
no relation , just someone with a sunny outlook.... rolleyes.gif

It's one thing to be 'bullish' Torro-it's another to be blind.
mortonjag 2007-03-05 07:10:06
QUOTE(Savo @ Mar 5 2007, 01:08 AM) [snapback]238531[/snapback]
If you are suggesting he didn't sign an experienced player because he was worried it would undermine his authority then how do you account for the arrival of Paul Mathers?

Not only is he a vastly experienced player but he had also been working as an assistant manager at another club in the same division.

Fair point, but too little, too late IMO.
mortonjag 2007-03-05 07:13:47
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 5 2007, 02:23 AM) [snapback]238538[/snapback]
i took a friend, a bury fan, to the game on saturday, and about half an hour in, he pointed out chris millar and said he was running away from the ball and avoiding tackles.

i knew he's been doing it for a while now, but for a neutral to see it after only half an hour, why can't mcinally? the guy's not even a luxury. he's just redundant.

....which is sad.

I took a friend to the cup tie with the Midden some time ago. Like yours, he didn't know the Ton squad, and he rated Midge as MOTM.

The boy needs a rest.
mortonjag 2007-03-05 07:22:29 'Spoonsy was, is, and always will be a striker'.

Seem to remember somebody saying that when St James performed one of his many miracles, and converted him to a right back. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-05 07:24:05
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Mar 5 2007, 02:42 AM) [snapback]238539[/snapback]
Interesting that I started this thread almost 18 months ago and the same problems are arising. rolleyes.gif

I'd say 'interesting' should be replaced by 'worrying'.
mortonjag 2007-03-05 08:52:48
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Mar 5 2007, 08:28 AM) [snapback]238560[/snapback]
harry hill is about as funny as toothache, and i'm being very kind there.

russel brand ? does anyone actually think he's funny ?

It takes all kinds I guess, but I can't abide HH's self indulgent style.

I liked Russel Brand for the first couple of times, but only 'til I realised it's the same old crap every single time.
mortonjag 2007-03-05 09:04:45
QUOTE(jpmil @ Mar 5 2007, 08:44 AM) [snapback]238562[/snapback]
Sad to say that on Saturday against Peterhead every time Jim got the ball I said to my pal "well that's that move finished" and I was completely correct. I don't remember him ever gatting a cross intothe box.
I can only assume that because he runs about a great deal (but achieves little) that MCInally rewards him for effort and not contribution.

You've hit the nail right on the head jpmil-it's come to me with such clarity, and I'm going to call it the JMBee scheme.

JM is the chief, or 'Queen' Bee, and all the rest are his busy little workers, striving towards the golden honeypot.

Because all his busy little workers work so busily, all JM does is buzz around aimlessly, knowing that at the end of the day their industry will be rewarded.

Some of the busy little Bees are better than others, but that matters not to the Bee in chief-the golden honeypot is his raison d'etre.

Once upon a time another 'Queen' discovered that by assigning her best workers to their best tasks she could make a golden honepot very efficiently, but JMBee doesn't believe in fairytales. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-05 09:16:50
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Mar 4 2007, 09:21 PM) [snapback]238454[/snapback]
Yes, because when she's "pissed," she doesn't have the capacity to change her mind or resist. It's called "diminished capacity."

And applying the same logic, I assume that if he is 'pished' too it cannot be construed as rape-just 'diminished capacity', or am I confusing that with 'Brewer's droop'? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-05 09:20:46
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Mar 4 2007, 08:57 PM) [snapback]238442[/snapback]
RE: Dougie's programme notes yesterday, why does he have to mention how the OF are doing in Europe? Does every Chairman up and down the country do the same? Stick to Morton Dougie!

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He didn't just 'mention', he actually announced that Celtic would have to adopt different tactics in their 2nd leg!

Every now and then I feel VERY sorry for JM! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-05 09:53:24
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 5 2007, 09:29 AM) [snapback]238570[/snapback]
I thought Deano's introduction led to an immediate improvement in the performance, especially amazing as Stevenson went off. Deano maybe isn't the silkiest player we have, but he tries hard, doesn't shirk, and IMHO is what we need as a component of our midfield to balance the more skilful lightweights.

If Deano had been on for longer, I reckon he could have been MotM.

We still get drawn into a game of head tennis too easily - ok, it was a heavy pitch, but we are better on the deck, whereas the less skilful teams like to lump it up the park and keep it in the air.

Deano has already been MOTM twice this season, Alibi, no small achievement for one of the unfavoured ones. Even Alex Walker, who was only on for a few minutes, managed a reasonable 'dig' at goal on Saturday.

If JM was any more cautious he's be going backwards-FFS those 'fringe' players would be regulars in any other division 2 team, yet week in, week out, come rain or shine, he plods on with the 'teacher's pets'.
mortonjag 2007-03-05 10:18:35
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Mar 5 2007, 10:05 AM) [snapback]238578[/snapback]
They've both got "diminished capacity," thus it cannot be rape just base don that. of course, some women do cry rape aftwerwards, but that has to be proven.

The rape in this type of scenario is only one when is "incapacitated" and the other isn't.

Rape as a charge has always been a big problem area for law enforcement, but I'm pretty certain a man can be convicted here, even if he's been pretty drunk at the time. Similarly, it doesn't really matter how drunk a woman has become, provided an accused can convince the court that it had been with (obviously previous) consent.
mortonjag 2007-03-05 10:53:13 Ernie-retired professional
























































































































































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mortonjag 2007-03-05 10:58:19
QUOTE(rex manning @ Mar 5 2007, 10:38 AM) [snapback]238586[/snapback]
Sorry just realised theres about a 900 page topic about Jamie.....

.....and it's still no clearer why JM regularly pulls him off! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-05 11:25:55
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Mar 5 2007, 11:14 AM) [snapback]238595[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2007-03-05 11:30:51
QUOTE(c***ney_Reject @ Mar 4 2007, 11:47 PM) [snapback]238514[/snapback]
I didn't hear that it was happening. I left the Jimmy Watt and met my girlfriend at a party to be told by her and her mates that they had seen an eclipse, on account of their intoxication levels at the time I laughed at them. Felt like a right f*d when I saw it on the news this morning tongue.gif

Did they let you in with THAT uniform on? FFS standards must be slipping! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-05 12:26:50
QUOTE(rex manning @ Mar 5 2007, 11:27 AM) [snapback]238602[/snapback]
My personal favourite reasoning is the Alloa contract one, thats a belter.

Either way-JM really does pull him off in full view of the supporters. It's becoming so regular it's an embarrassment. From our seats we have to crane our necks, and it's always the same. First JM gets up, you can see he's erect, then he gesticulates a wee bit to get Jamie's attention, and then shamelessly pulls the boy off.

He's really only a young lad you know. Goodness knows what all this is doing for his self esteem. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-05 12:37:14
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Mar 5 2007, 12:10 PM) [snapback]238609[/snapback]
You will see that we are 7 points clear of Stirling who themselves have amassed more points than any other SFL teams including league leaders in the other 2 divisions. If you were to view this board and listened to some of the crowd on Saturday you would think that we were trailing stirling . No doubt people will bring up our finances in comparison to the rest of the league same could be said of Gretna in the first.

I have followed Morton since the 60's with every game being an away match being an out of towner and have to say that going to cappielow recently has not been very enjoyable due to the horrible atmospnere within the ground.I look forward to winning the league and seeing the people who have slagged individual players being treated as long last brothers.

I have no idea why people think that slagging of players will make them automatically improve.

A classic on saturday was after Peterhead scored was the Guy who shouted for McInally to F--- off if that was the result of working with the defence resulted in

I don't go in for 'slagging off' individual players during a match, and deplore the actions of those who do.

I think one of the main reasons for the discontent is not simply that we're in a hell hole of a division-it's also because we're not producing particularly exciting football. I'll guarantee that had we been winning most home matches by two or three goals, the crowds would have been significantly higher, as would the enthusiasm.
mortonjag 2007-03-05 12:41:05
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 5 2007, 12:24 PM) [snapback]238616[/snapback]
Alan Moore still thinks he can catch us, and says their next three games are the biggest of the season.... Their next two games are away to Raith (unbeaten in 8 matches) and then home to us (a MUST win for them - we'll take a draw) and then away to Forfar (a week after we're there). Our next games are away to Alloa and then away to Stirling, followed then by a game away to Forfar (the Sunday game).

The pressure is on Stirling, as they NEED to win their next two games and hope we slip up against Alloa. The worst case scenario is we lose our next two and they beat Raith - but I can't see us losing both. Best case of course is they lose to Raith and we win our next two - 13 points would surely see it done and dusted.

I think they'll get 2 points at most from the next two games, and we'll get 4, and that should be enough for it to be all over 'bar the shouting......'

That's what you would expect, yet in every game of late, our boys seem to be unable to relax. The pressure is apparently on US. sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-05 13:05:38
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 5 2007, 12:58 PM) [snapback]238637[/snapback]

A very good signing for them I'd say.

Did that pony tailed llama lover EVER do us any favours? mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-05 13:17:29
QUOTE(suda @ Mar 5 2007, 01:07 PM) [snapback]238642[/snapback]
Hmm I wonder what's causing that!? Wouldn't be fans shouting outrageous abuse would it?

I must say suda that we always sit in the same area of the stand, and I can honestly say that 'outrageous abuse' is something of a rarity there.

If you are correct, I'd imagine the solution has to come from somewhere within GMFC. I have made my own thoughts clear on the matter and needn't repeat them.
mortonjag 2007-03-05 13:30:51
QUOTE(cmdc @ Mar 5 2007, 01:14 PM) [snapback]238646[/snapback]
Part of the reason why the pressure is on us is because despite being seven points clear at the top of the league, and having put together more points than every team in the country apart from Celtic, some folk take every opportunity to aim criticisms at the team. As McInally himself said, at this point in the season its a results business and not a performance business. Look how much praise Man Utd are getting for playing poorly at the minute but winning - the sign of champions people are calling it. Yet here we play poorly and win (having earlier in the season played extrememly well and dropped points) and we have several topics sniping at the manager and players. If we play poorly for the rest of the season and win the league then thats fine by me. I really do appreciate that alot of people want to see excellent football along the way, as do I, but I accept that in a league where most sides will set their stall out to frustrate us and stop us playing then exciting games may be few and far between until we get into a division where teams have loftier ambitions for themselves.

Your comparison to Man U is spurious-people can have patience with a manager of proven stature and ability-for a while at least.

If, as you claim, JM thinks it's a 'results' and not a 'performance' business this season, why does he persist in selecting players who ain't getting those results?

IF he had shown any attempt whatsoever to vary the team selection after our four points from four matches, (which I'd like to describe more colourfully than 'playing poorly'), and the team had been even worse, he would perhaps have gained some credibility.

It's become very obvious that opinion is swinging against him, and he has no God given right to immunity. I DO believe we'll get promotion, but in a prolonged and needlessly painful way. That is down to one man, and the paying customers are totally justified in their dissatisfaction.
mortonjag 2007-03-05 13:31:48
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 5 2007, 01:18 PM) [snapback]238649[/snapback]
that would make a change rolleyes.gif

Happy to oblige if you'd like my tuppenceworth! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-05 14:29:09
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 5 2007, 01:52 PM) [snapback]238671[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2007-03-05 14:31:52
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Mar 5 2007, 01:40 PM) [snapback]238665[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Mar 5 2007, 01:28 PM) [snapback]238657[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Try and recognise the irony !

Think Willowman is just trying to say "GET BOBBY LINN IN THE TEAM WHY THE HECK DID YOU BUY HIM TO WARM UP THE BENCH MCINALLY"

Perhaps for when Paul goes back to Smeltic?

Both Linn and Gowser should be starting IMO.
mortonjag 2007-03-05 14:37:57
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 5 2007, 01:35 PM) [snapback]238663[/snapback]
but he is getting the results, he says he wants the team to get an average of 20 points per quarter to win the league and he has got that so far. i think certain guys need dropped but if he changes it and we lose what would you say then, he is damed either way this season.

I'm totally disinterested in statistics and projections Bryan. I'd rather hear him say something original like 'We should be winning every f*cking match in this league-I know that's not possible, but I'll take every game as it comes, and make changes as often as necessary', instead of the repetitive 'we have to keep on grinding out results and hopefully' etc., etc.
mortonjag 2007-03-05 14:48:06
QUOTE(cmdc @ Mar 5 2007, 02:02 PM) [snapback]238673[/snapback]
The comparison with Man U isn't spurious at all and it could have been a comparison with ANY team at the top of any league at the business end of the season who know that results are more important than performances; added to that you don't amass the second highest points tally in the country by not getting results.

JM has been a failure in the last two seasons, and has yet to convince many that he is managerial material. If you can say that of Ferguson, then perhaps it's not spurious.

Something rarely quoted when 'points amassed' are mentioned to defend our manager is 'points needlessly gifted to others'. You can't have it one way and not the other. I honestly believe that if JM had the ability to MAKE those boys get results, we'd probably have an extra ten or twelve points RIGHT NOW.

He CLAIMS it's results that count, but in truth, when results go against us, he totally defies logic by fielding the same side week in, week out.

I really DON'T like criticising individual players, but his undying faith in several, despite dreadful form, leaves me mystified.
mortonjag 2007-03-05 14:51:40
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 5 2007, 02:44 PM) [snapback]238693[/snapback]
you said he isnt getting results when he is rolleyes.gif

Some! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-05 14:53:27
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 5 2007, 02:52 PM) [snapback]238699[/snapback]
most rolleyes.gif

Not enough or we'd be promoted now! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-05 15:00:59
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 5 2007, 02:26 PM) [snapback]238685[/snapback]
Eh? Is seven points clear with 9 games remaining not enough for you? 4 - 0 nil wins every week for you sir?

Ridiculous.

Edit to add - and not just you.... this place is horrendous sometimes

If our manager and squad had had the requisite mental strength in the playoffs, we'd no doubt be arguing about something else.

I'd say Chrissiboi is VERY near the mark with his comment.

When they 'turn it on', they are unbeatable, but there's clearly a 'lottery' factor, and I defy anyone to argue that they have not spent some considerable time this season looking like wee lost boys in search of their 'Mammy'.

Teams of half our talent and ability come to Scapa regularly and beat us at 'mind games'.
mortonjag 2007-03-05 15:01:59
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 5 2007, 02:56 PM) [snapback]238701[/snapback]
Even Gretna were not at this time last year

It was a more difficult league with ourselves and Partick there.
mortonjag 2007-03-05 15:11:15
QUOTE(cmdc @ Mar 5 2007, 03:01 PM) [snapback]238704[/snapback]
Well Ferguson has had little success in the last two seasons and had plenty of people calling for his head, from the terraces and media alike, when they went out of the Champions League at the group stages last season so I guess it isn't spurious! tongue.gif

In any case the point being made is not about Man United or their manager but about the fact that any and every team in our position would recognise that playing poorly and winning really boils down to one thing: winning. As I said above I understand the frustrations but in my opinion there is more to be optimistic about than pessimistic. I know it's a bit 'old hat' now but my perspective is really shaped by the memory of the last season we spent in the First Division playing dreadful football in dreadful circumstances. I was closely involved witht he club at that time and from that experience I just want to enjoy the fact that the club are finally moving in the right direction; I just wish there was a better atmosphere amongst the supporters so that I might get a bit more enjoyment from my Saturday afternoon.

Let me clarify one thing. My gripe is NOT ultimately about being ahead by one, five, or seven points at this stage in the season.

I am first to admit I don't tolerate fools gladly, and in my opinion JM has learned very little since he came here.

If I see a manager reacting to results and making changes I give him credit for effort, even if it doesn't always work.

If I see evidence on match days of a good motivational rapport between a manager and his players I am impressed.

When, as you mention, we are TOP of the division, and the crowds are melting away, and we are all knocking lumps out of each other on the forum, it's clear we are NOT enjoying ourselves.

WHY is that?
mortonjag 2007-03-06 06:58:00
QUOTE(suda @ Mar 5 2007, 04:44 PM) [snapback]238766[/snapback]
Aye

just waiting for MortonJag I believe in spite of........ tongue.gif

Gie's peace-I'm reading the other posts first. mad.gif

Right, here goes. Willowman, Chrissiboi, myself and some others have been extremely critical of things at Cappielow.

I don't doubt the sincerity of his post, but given that any genuine attempt at a presentation to the squad has ben totally wasted by the input of three quarters of the posters-most of whom are the same eejits who can't come up with a reasoned argument for or against anything, I guess it's gone 'tits up'.

Nice try Willow-had it ended up being a genuine petition, I would have had no problem signing, as I've always believed, and stated, we'll get promotion this year.

I'm going to add, however, that I'll continue to post on the board as I see fit. I will always atttempt to give due credit, and will never spare perceived incompetence.
mortonjag 2007-03-06 07:13:59
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Mar 5 2007, 06:50 PM) [snapback]238804[/snapback]
Second week in a row that Greacen has been fouled. Probably because he is a big guy, referees are not as strict, but every week Greacen either gets elbowed or held by the striker and the referee rarely gives a foul. Some of the decisions given against Templeman were a bit baffling too! Still, we have definately had worse over the years!

Was just thinking there, when was the last time a team had a man sent off against us? Must be one of the fairest leagues around!

I don't agree it's because Stu's big. He's no bigger than the average 'centre half' IMO.
I think it's because he's not streetwise. He just keeps a stiff upper lip instead of having a go at the ref. Don't ask and you don't get.
mortonjag 2007-03-06 07:18:21
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Mar 5 2007, 07:32 PM) [snapback]238814[/snapback]
After pointing out the fact that we've taken 12 points from Peterhead this season (Even the biggest optimist wouldn't have predicted this , I bet)

He goes on to say that he's told the players it's the results business were in rather than the performance business.
He says that he knows that we didn't play well but the team must be doing something right averaging 20 points from each quarter. Finishes by saying " [b]We have nothing but total belief in them. They give everything[/b]"

Says it all really.

If his belief in certain players is misplaced - it will be JM who pays with his job. He's not perfect (like us) but I have every faith in him to come up with the goods.

What did you expect him to say-'I don't have total belief in the players-that's why I put the same squad on every f*cking week'?

JM's comments are as predictable as rain at Scapa in July.
mortonjag 2007-03-06 07:25:32
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 5 2007, 03:03 PM) [snapback]238708[/snapback]
they had a bigger lead tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2007-03-06 07:29:15
QUOTE(cmdc @ Mar 5 2007, 03:07 PM) [snapback]238710[/snapback]
[quote name='mortonjag' date='Mar 5 2007, 03:00 PM' post='238702'
Teams of half our talent and ability come to Scapa regularly and beat us at 'mind games'.
It's not just the team though, it's as much the fans who play into these mind games because, as some opposition managers have commented, they know that our fans are quick to get on the teams back when things don't go our way very early on. I agree with lots of posters that fans pay and are entitled to voice their opinion but at the same time I think there must be some difference between a team who are clawed back to 1-1 and have to find motivation from within themselves to up it again and go on to win the game, and a team who are clawed back to 1-1 and who get the vocal support of 2500-3500 people as extra motivation.

The support at Cappielow this year is very poor-I agree. My perception is that it's a failure to get behind the team, rather than isolated abuse which is letting us down. The first chant on Saturday came AFTER our first goal, and DESPITE the Toon fans doing their best to help their lot.
mortonjag 2007-03-06 07:31:54
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 5 2007, 03:09 PM) [snapback]238712[/snapback]
have you seen our home record this year rolleyes.gif

Indeed I have Bryan, AND been to every game. I can remember one a long long time ago against Alloa, when we didn't stand any nonsense and scored four. Most others have been far, far closer than they should.
mortonjag 2007-03-06 07:39:35
QUOTE(cmdc @ Mar 5 2007, 03:23 PM) [snapback]238718[/snapback]
On the touchline/motivation thing I was interested in reading Roy Keane this week talking about the importance of remaining calm on the touchline - saying the dressing room and training ground is where he does his work and motivation, and that during the game his players need to look over and see a cool head.

I don't really care why people are knocking lumps on the forum, thats partly what its for and I bet its what most forums are like across the country. As for why crowds are drifting away people are sick of this division. Teams come to stop us playing football rather than coming out to play, which is of course their prerogative, but that kind of discontent is equally evident at Celtic Park and Ibrox. I'm sick of this division, and I think McInally had plent of time in each of the last two seasons to get us out of it, so in that regard maybe there is a problem between fans and manager, but I have always had a feeling we would improve as we go up the divisions and play teams who come to play abit themselves and against Kille and St Johnstone we did just that. We even scored 4 against Ayr (a bogey team) when they came to play, so if we see more competitive matches in the First Division I reckon the crowds will come back and people will still be knocking lumps on the forum.

It's nice to get a civilised reply, though I'd hardly have quoted Keane when talking about managerial nous!

I guess much of what you say is correct. My main problem with JM is his apparent inability to think with any imagination. He has stated his policy, and is not for changing. I've said I believe we'll get promotion in spite of him.

What that means is, that if there's a hard way to do things, JM seems attracted to it like a magnet, and THAT is affecting crowds, and causing discontentment.
mortonjag 2007-03-06 07:46:18
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 5 2007, 07:30 PM) [snapback]238813[/snapback]
The Boo-Boys and the keyboard assassins should consider this: no matter how much they criticise, boo and hurl abuse at the team and/or the management, nothing is going to change between now and the end of the season. No new players will come in and there certainly won't be a change of manager. Like it or lump it nothing will change until after we gain promotion or fail in that endeavour.
Given these circumstances, what can Morton supporters do best to help the team succeed ? The answer is a no-brainer. Let's get right behind the team and management for the remainder of the campaign and reserve judgement until it is either won or lost.
C'Mon the Ton.

You keyboard assassin!
mortonjag 2007-03-06 07:51:12
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 5 2007, 11:34 PM) [snapback]238877[/snapback]
My point is only this: many of us have 'reservations' and Stevie Wonder could spot deficiencies in the current set up but it will not serve the push for promotion at such a critical stage if we constantly give vent to them. Why can't judgement be reserved until the end of the season ? 'Blood' should not be shed now, surely it would be counterproductive and detrimental to morale if certain individuals were identified now as surplus to future requirements. It might sound like: 'Away and play your heart out for us just now Son, but you're getting booted out the door as soon as the season ends'.
For me promotion is the only picture showing at the moment. What happens after is a new movie entirely.

So at what point in any project DO you start to make judgements? If a schoolboy does poorly in prelims, does he get a wee pat on the back as his teacher says, just keep plodding on, 'it'll be alright on the day?
mortonjag 2007-03-06 07:54:49
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 5 2007, 02:33 PM) [snapback]238688[/snapback]
we tried that and lost tongue.gif

SO! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-06 08:02:10
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Mar 5 2007, 04:33 PM) [snapback]238763[/snapback]
Yes, but with "previous consent" you get into the even greyer area of second-hand (or heresay) information, which is normally not admissable. Besides, the court will usually at least give the consideration that a woman can changer her mind at any time.

Indeed, but if she consented while sober, and claimed to have changed her mind while her 'reason was diminished', which party was wronged?
mortonjag 2007-03-06 08:05:29
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 5 2007, 07:48 PM) [snapback]238816[/snapback]
Hello, I'm Crewcut Dan the Mangler. I'm an Architect, still crazy and busy inflicting carbuncles upon the unsuspecting public.

I can spot yours a mile away. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-06 08:06:40
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Mar 5 2007, 09:32 PM) [snapback]238844[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif
Bonjour. Colin here and I am employed by Siemens on a service desk.

That smacks strongly of a sperm bank! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-06 08:47:53 Plus ca change-if you want a boat you go where they can build you a reasonable one at a competitive price. I don't blame the EU, management, or workers. It's a fact of economic life. A large part of the established West of Scotland culture grew from employing cheap southern Irish labour for example.

I remember way back before many of you were born, that Lithgows were already losing out to the 'Japs' for the same reason.

It's called a 'marketplace'.
mortonjag 2007-03-06 08:50:01
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Mar 6 2007, 08:41 AM) [snapback]238916[/snapback]
As are yours ,my dear fellow.

Yes, but mine are superior! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-06 08:58:42 mad.gif Jim Jeffferies

dry.gif Walter Smith

blink.gif John Hughes

sad.gif Gus McPherson

plenty more I'm sure!

mortonjag 2007-03-06 09:02:35
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Mar 6 2007, 08:58 AM) [snapback]238921[/snapback]
I believe...

from every drop...
mortonjag 2007-03-06 09:31:11
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 6 2007, 09:08 AM) [snapback]238923[/snapback]
Well if the boil needs lancing, I wouldn't call for you. 'No Doctor, I said prick his boil.... not boil his....' laugh.gif

laugh.gif

Oh NO-not DOCTOR jokes...


Man to psychiatrist-'Doctor ...erm...it's this fetish I have for...erm... masturbating into a biscuit tin.

Psychiatrist-'Youre f*cking crackers'. wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-06 09:42:59
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 6 2007, 09:13 AM) [snapback]238924[/snapback]
I'd suggest that school prelims isn't the best analogy to apply to our promotion campaign, and I think I've stated when we should make judgements. I sincerely hope it will be alright on the day. smile.gif

I think it's a perfectly valid analogy. The scenario is that of of any learner (schoolboy/JM/whatever) aiming to pass an exam (Higher English/get promotion/whatever), and being spared potentially helpful criticism of a less than ideal performance lest it embarrass, with the rather vacuous statement that judgement will be reserved.

Anyhow this is all far too deep. I'll get my 'jotters' if I don't finish painting the bedroom before my 'manager' gets home. mad.gif

mortonjag 2007-03-06 09:44:21
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Mar 6 2007, 09:39 AM) [snapback]238932[/snapback]
I Believe for evry drop of ran that falls a flower grows lol laugh.gif...

I believe...
mortonjag 2007-03-06 09:46:52
QUOTE(Capuan @ Mar 6 2007, 09:31 AM) [snapback]238927[/snapback]
wacko.gif - Jim McInally


You are a naughty boy, and I'll get the blame.
ph34r.gif Ivanauskas (as was)
mortonjag 2007-03-06 10:25:12
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Mar 6 2007, 10:14 AM) [snapback]238943[/snapback]
Well I must say, what an encouraging post.

All I asked for was Aye’s

If you signed a petition in the town would you sign it and then attach a pile of s***e.
Of course you wouldn’t, you either sign it because you agree with it or you ignore it because you have doubts ot are a Non-Believer

If I was to forward this thread so Scapa with some of the comments in it they wouldn’t exactly be thrilled and encouraged.

We have 46 genuine believers so far and I’ll be requesting all the nonsense posts be deleted before I forward it.

Disappointed in some of you lot, I really am mad.gif

Willow, you left yourself wide open I'm afraid. Let's face it, you either agree to sign a petition or refuse.

Why don't you instead start a poll along the lines of-'Despite some recent ups and downs, do you have every confidence and belief that our boys will get us promotion this year-YES or NO'.

I could do it but they'd probably find some non-existent hidden agenda. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-06 10:28:06 I honestly can't see any joy for us. This is a must for the Binos. 0-1.
mortonjag 2007-03-06 11:48:40
QUOTE(reepyrawley @ Mar 6 2007, 11:33 AM) [snapback]238974[/snapback]
Cheers, phoned them and they were £50 cheaper than AC. But phoned a mate of my Dad's he can do it for £60. Happy Days!

Always get work on your motor done on the basis of a personal recommendation. The main dealers are a necessary evil when it's still under warranty, but they are TOTAL sharks, and it's usually the junior apprentice that ends up with your job! SIR Arnold SHARK is worse than most in my experience.
mortonjag 2007-03-06 11:56:57
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 6 2007, 10:30 AM) [snapback]238952[/snapback]
There appears to be a number of folk on this forum who are quite clued up on the NTL (virgin) service. The terminal in the house has two outlets one of which already goes to my tv and broadband through a splitter. If I were to come into the posseesion of a second ntl box would I be able to use? My wife has been bugging me about it, but I think it is dependent on the card in the box. Any useful feedback would be appreciated.

I'm not sure I'm talking sense here, but when you talk about the 'terminal' having two outlets, do you mean identical (twin) outlets on the wall plate where the signal enters the house?

If so you can surely use a second box which should have its own card. You can alternatively buy a wee set top sensor to use in another room provided you've got a TV socket there. It is operated with your remote control, and instructs the original box to send the signal along.
mortonjag 2007-03-06 12:01:16
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 6 2007, 10:43 AM) [snapback]238957[/snapback]
I had a Yamaha R6 until November when it was pinched. mad.gif Now planning on an MV F4-750 or, more sensibly, a GSX-R 750. What you got?

My favourite run is across the Erskine Bridge and heading up to Oban. It's basically a massive circle around there passing Crianlarich and the like, stopping in at the Green Welly for a munch and a natter with the 14 million other bikers that are usually there. Roads are wide, well surfaced and some of the corners are phenomenal.

If I fancy a quick blast I just do the Kilbirnie circuit. Down to Largs, up over the Healy Brae, follow the road to Kilbirnie, then Lochwinnoch and on to Kilmacolm. Takes about an hour, depending on the mobile chicanes.

Mobile chicane operator changes route plans. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-06 12:03:03
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 6 2007, 12:00 PM) [snapback]238994[/snapback]
Nice wheels.

But ever so pedestrian! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-06 12:13:08
QUOTE(neilly @ Mar 6 2007, 11:52 AM) [snapback]238983[/snapback]
well possibly;
not fit....no excuse trains full time!!!
carrying a knock....should not be risking aggravating it!!!

Simple-JM just enjoys pulling wee boys off.
mortonjag 2007-03-06 12:14:44 I did it MY way. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-06 13:49:43
QUOTE(Frank Grimes @ Mar 6 2007, 12:15 PM) [snapback]239007[/snapback]
There's no place on this board for innuendo like that.

Shameful. sad.gif

When did fact become innuendo-you must have a very fertile mind in your retirement Mr Grimes. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-06 14:01:06
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Mar 6 2007, 12:40 PM) [snapback]239013[/snapback]
ah deary me, dont be so presumptious, who says i've never met them, for all you know i could be Jim McInally.
Now, since we're getting all judgemental, you are clearly bankrupt of any sort of humour. If people need smiley faces to understand irony, then its a sad day for comedy.
Its greeting faced phud's like yourself (again, i'm making presumptions) that have driven the proper banter merchants away from this board.
A happy clappy positivity thread was crying out for someone to make some off the cuff negative remark, it was really so obvious that i couldn't help myself.

Now, go away and have a right good fk to yourself and try and cheer up a wee bit.

M4RKO mate, it was OBVIOUS to me you were just taking the rip.

The rose tinted, anally retentive c*nts who can only see a f*cking league table and St James' halo will never change. I say they should chuck the whole squad in a huge Millions bag, and let one of the board weans pick Saturday's team.

WE WOULD WIN. wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-07 07:09:48
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Mar 6 2007, 02:31 PM) [snapback]239059[/snapback]
Glad you didn't dissapoint me. Had a list of people who i thought would answer in a similar fashion and you were top of the list. Well done Mr Jag. cool.gif

Happy to come to your aids! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-07 07:27:02
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Mar 6 2007, 04:57 PM) [snapback]239094[/snapback]
It's people's liveliehoods as well, it's not all about balance sheets and market places. I'd gladly pay more tax if it meant that Scotland had full employment where everyone could contribute and feel worthwhile. The Government owe a duty of care to those they are elected to represent and govern.

In answer to Mortonjag, how do you intend to fund the dole money and benefits now required by those being laid off, the extra burden on an already stretched Health service due to failing health linked to poverty, the decrease in expenditure in our economy on goods and services through less disposable income. All because some trumped up tory toff like yourself wants to see so called value for money. I'm not wanting to pay taxes to improve the standard of living half way across the world, if I did I'd give money to charity instead. If that's the case, sack all the doctors and employ those who've been trained in thrid world countries and pay them washers. After all they offer their services cheaper and why shouldn't the taxpayer get value for money?

If you're not again at the wind up, you post is so disingenuous it's only worthy of scorn.
mortonjag 2007-03-07 07:29:24
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Mar 6 2007, 09:14 PM) [snapback]239210[/snapback]
Take a wild guess......? Bottom line is it doesn't matter what she said before she got wasted, it all depends on if she is and he isn't, if they both are, or if they're not. If she was "diminished" in any way, she cannot "give consent" at that time, nor could she have the mind to resist.

Besides, there are ways to tell if it was "consentual" or not.

Extremely unreliable ways if experience from the courts is anything to go on.
mortonjag 2007-03-07 07:34:00 Seat 264 reserved for McInally.
mortonjag 2007-03-07 07:38:28
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 6 2007, 05:30 PM) [snapback]239107[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif biggrin.gif

Before your time probably, but...

'Please don't let me be misunderstood'.
mortonjag 2007-03-07 07:40:58 Back to the drawing board-sorry-to 'grinding out results and hoping to accumulate enough points to gain promotion'.
mortonjag 2007-03-07 07:43:25
QUOTE(1insert_player_here @ Mar 6 2007, 03:52 PM) [snapback]239082[/snapback]
Yes, about 3,000 times. We get the f'cking point, you boring, predictable idiot. tongue.gif

How dare you call me predictable! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-07 07:45:00
QUOTE(suda @ Mar 6 2007, 06:14 PM) [snapback]239119[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif He keeps saying that so at the end of the year he can say told you we won despite blah blah......

for the 4003rd time!
mortonjag 2007-03-07 07:46:06
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 6 2007, 06:28 PM) [snapback]239127[/snapback]
the only time i've booed a morton team was during the embarrassment that was 2003-04, but you have to admit this is a difficult team to like. if the team had even a little bit of heart, they'd be getting a fraction of the criticism.

i do think that booing is counter-productive, that's why i see this forum as the best place to rattle off your fears and worries. there should be distinctions drawn between the idiots who abuse players during games and those who voice their concerns after the game on here.

This man CAN think clearly now and again it seems!
mortonjag 2007-03-07 07:50:14
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 6 2007, 02:59 PM) [snapback]239069[/snapback]
I've heard a wee rumour and if true would confirm what you are saying Kenni.

On that point I'd also say Greacen isn't setting a good example on the field. I don't think we have a player of captain material at Cappielow.

Except perhaps, Mathers.

This is one, but by no means the only reason we ought to have signed an experienced old head for midfield long ago.
mortonjag 2007-03-07 08:07:33 It seems an eternity since Spoonsy sent that one into the car park. No doubt somebody will prove me wrong, but has any other Scottish side gone as long as we have this season without a penalty?

Now I guess that if you told any EXPERIENCED manager that story, he's ask two questions.
1/ Are you playing a half decent striker?
2/ Do you have any players who run directly at goal?

My feelings have been stated in some detail, and I won't elaborate-I was just having the thought.
mortonjag 2007-03-07 08:17:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 7 2007, 07:47 AM) [snapback]239296[/snapback]
I think it's yourself that's on the wind-up here Mr. Mortonjag. I'm sure the highlighted sentiment is shared by a significant number of Scots; people who'd opt for social investment rather than laissez-faire economics that leaves dereliction in its wake.

I was not disputing the laudable sentiment-simply laughing at the daft logistics.

When it boils down, most people are willing to make some contribution to improve the lot of others less well off, but redistributionist theories have always proved to be impractical.

The idea of an impoverished Specky toddling down to 'Pricecutter' with his wee string bag for a tin of beans and a half pint of milk just makes me laugh.
mortonjag 2007-03-07 08:47:37 They're developing, or may have now completed a fail safe ignition system with a built in breathalyser device.

Whether or not it ever gets into universal usage is another question.
mortonjag 2007-03-07 08:50:20 If Rowan Alexander is an alcoholic, I sincerely hope he is able to get through this patch, and learn to live 'sober'.
mortonjag 2007-03-07 09:00:40
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 7 2007, 06:52 AM) [snapback]239285[/snapback]
Marko's post made my day. I was having a crap day at work and the humour cheered me up. For the record I'm with the guy who thinks we'll crawl over the line. Having read Weatherson's comments in the telegraph I can only assume that JM is trying the Fergie trick of building a siege mentality in the team. The only problem is: Fergie used the old firm and the press as the enemy. JM seems to be using the fans. The players need to remember that there is a reason we are in the 2nd Division. Its up to them to show that they are better than that. And not just sporadically.

I honestly think the whole thing's been blown way out of proportion.

If DDFR is comfortable calling our hallowed forum a 'rag', I'd hardly imagine the earth trembles at Scapa every time somebody posts adversely. Furthermore, our active member count is probably fifty or so-a drop in an ocean of Ton fans.

I would be surprised if any of us on the board is not TOTALLY behind the Ton. It's because of that we are able to harmlessly channel our frustrations here, INSTEAD of taking it out on the players at games.

In any case, nobody is obliged to log on. If you don't want burned, stay away from fire.
mortonjag 2007-03-07 09:03:59
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 7 2007, 08:54 AM) [snapback]239304[/snapback]
I don't think I could boo a Morton team, but that doesn't make me a better fan than those who have. It is indeed a difficult team to like, but we keep in mind that it plays for the club that most of us love.
To be fair, I think the team has shown 'heart' on more than one occasion this season. Let's hope that it does again, now when it really matters.

I agree with the distinctions you draw, but there are some on here that appear to prefer the negative to the positive; some who might even smirk if their prophecies of failure are realised. Of course I respect the genuine fan's right to criticise; it's part of this forum's purpose.

I am not aware of a single poster having said we'll fail to get promotion this season.
mortonjag 2007-03-07 09:29:54
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Mar 7 2007, 09:16 AM) [snapback]239309[/snapback]
If we do some major damage to Alloa this saturday then i think we might just take a tad more than the last time we played at Forthbank.

If not then id agree with Cappielowcrazy above.

Just as long as there are enough pies to go around this time. tongue.gif

Precisely-the crowds always flock back for the 'biggies' when there's a REAL chance of glory, just as they flock in for regular games, if they're getting excitement and goals.

I like Forthbank-for a wee modern stadium it's 'no bad', and it's great being able to park.

Compare that to the farcical situation at Motherwell for example.
mortonjag 2007-03-07 09:40:13
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 7 2007, 09:35 AM) [snapback]239314[/snapback]
True, Mr Mortonjag.
But some have said that any success will be in spite of the manager. That would be a failure, on his part at least.
And some advocate his replacement whatever the outcome, and might even smirk if this happens.

How many account for 'some' DE?

I would definitely have a smirk! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-07 09:42:11
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 7 2007, 09:36 AM) [snapback]239315[/snapback]
Yes, because a song by The Animals whose Greatest Hits album I have, and which was used in Return to the Forbidden Planet (which I've seen) is before my time... laugh.gif laugh.gif

Excellent, since we are on the same wavelength, I'll revise my suggestion to 'Wild Thing' and you'll name the band, and year no doubt! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-07 09:43:49
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Mar 7 2007, 09:41 AM) [snapback]239319[/snapback]
And add that one to that s***ehole at Beath

At least it's being replaced, and they may get a 'Forthbank' in the next couple of years.
mortonjag 2007-03-07 10:14:43
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 7 2007, 09:56 AM) [snapback]239331[/snapback]
When at Cappielow he always seemed to me the model professional and the last one from that crop who would go down a slipery slope. Very sorry to hear he has an addiction. Best of luck.

Addictive personalities abound in any and all walks of life. It has even been suggested that it is a very element of the personality which links success with ultimate demise.

The 'never doing anything by halves' either in work or play has certainly applied to a host of celebrities, politicians, businessmen and so on, who have ultimately had to admit defeat to a bloody bottle.
mortonjag 2007-03-07 10:16:42
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 7 2007, 09:45 AM) [snapback]239325[/snapback]
This would suprise me not, Mr Mortonjag.

Then you shall have a premature smirk or two!

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mortonjag 2007-03-07 10:19:58
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 7 2007, 09:46 AM) [snapback]239327[/snapback]
Don't wanna cheat, so won't look up the year on Google, but know that it was The Troggs.

Before your time then? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-07 10:43:19
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Mar 7 2007, 09:59 AM) [snapback]239332[/snapback]
Whats the score on that one, is the new stadium being built for them alone or is it being built for the community.

Not sure-I seem to remember talk of a multi functional facility, as distinct from an isolated stadium, but you always get vested interests involved, and of course the inevitable 'planning consent'.
mortonjag 2007-03-07 10:45:03
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 7 2007, 10:03 AM) [snapback]239333[/snapback]
IT is amazing considering we are a team who seem hell bent on walking the ball into the net that we get very few penalties.

Not really-you don't usually fall over when walking! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-07 10:47:31
QUOTE(Frank Grimes @ Mar 7 2007, 10:09 AM) [snapback]239334[/snapback]
Wait... so it's the MANAGER'S fault that we don't get more penalties?

Brilliant.

*applauds*

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It is also his fault when the May Hughes dancers step out of line, AND when Cappie misses his litter tray.

The man is a total liability. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-07 10:56:17
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 7 2007, 10:46 AM) [snapback]239344[/snapback]
[attachment=2710:UrinalMotivator.jpg]

Mortonjag celebrates the news that McInally is offered a contract for life following Morton's promotion to the SPL.

unsure.gif

All will be revealed DE-IF JM gets us up to the SPL next season, I offer to strip off on the centre spot at Scapa, fall on my knees, and humbly kiss his arse!

Come to think of it-he'd probably just sit in the dug out with his arms folded, and that glaicet big Mona Lisa leer across his coupon. wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-07 10:59:58
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Mar 7 2007, 10:51 AM) [snapback]239346[/snapback]
I take it this is similar as to what Ayr are going to have or is that completely different.

Maybe in the future the Ton will have the same, although i still prefer the old cappielow, jees, that old terracing in the WDE brings back memories.

Provided we could get enough space cleared for adequate SPL parking, I'd love Cappielow to 'stay put'.

Let's face it it's on dual carriageway, and out of the town centre, so we're already half way there.
mortonjag 2007-03-07 11:02:33
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 7 2007, 10:59 AM) [snapback]239351[/snapback]
I'd be delighted with 4-0 but I would settle for 1-0 with the goal scored in the last minute of injury time. Not good for the blood pressure I know but it's what we've come to expect. biggrin.gif

I have it on good authority that we will win by a single goal.
mortonjag 2007-03-07 11:04:43
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 7 2007, 11:01 AM) [snapback]239353[/snapback]
Roll on that day. laugh.gif

Seconded, and it will be my pleasure! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-07 11:07:28
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 7 2007, 10:55 AM) [snapback]239347[/snapback]
Masonic most likely. laugh.gif

There you go-we have the answer-we'll have to teach JM how to shake hands properly!
mortonjag 2007-03-07 11:09:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 7 2007, 11:05 AM) [snapback]239357[/snapback]
Been hearing voices again, Doctor?

Not at all-I heard it from a veritable football sage-oh, and it'll be in the last minute of extra time too!
mortonjag 2007-03-07 12:22:07
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Mar 7 2007, 11:23 AM) [snapback]239367[/snapback]
So do you disagree that by people being made unemployed they become a burden on society and turn contributors in to recipients in terms of taxes / benefits?

Do you disagree that there is a direct link between health and poverty? Therefore as an extension those unable to find work and earn a living are more likely to suffer chronic ill health and thus cause a further drain on NHS resources.

By logic it is therefore evident to me that by subsidising or in whatever other way protecting what is left of our indigenous industry we are protecting the nation's assets.

Like I said, lets flood the health service with cheap African doctors as they'll cost the NHS a damn sight less than the likes of you. After all, it's not the doctor's fault, it's just plain economics. Stick Mortonjag on the dole and he might have to sell his ivory tower.

I am aware of the facts you have stated BMFC. It might surprise you to learn from the heights of my 'ivory tower' that I have personal experience of long term illness AND unemployment.

Your idealistic notion is unworkable, simply because of the nature of the human species. Read a wee bit of Animal Farm.

'Cheap' African doctors are grossly inferior to our local Medics, both in training, and in knowledge of our language and culture. Your analogy is flawed.

The thousands of African doctors who work in the NHS have largely been trained here, are fluent in English, and totally integrated in our society. They rightfully command the going rate for the job.
mortonjag 2007-03-07 12:26:26
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Mar 7 2007, 11:26 AM) [snapback]239369[/snapback]
How insensitive is that?!! ohmy.gif Inverclyde has some of the highest levels of poverty and deprivation and you find it amusing that we don't all go to Marks' for our salmon and brie sandwiches.

I find it amusing that you claim to be willing to pay as much as it takes to rid us of the scourge of unemployment. You have an unfailing panache for totally missing the point. I'll try to keep it simpler in future.

Are you sure you're not standing for election this year-you're certainly thick enough to do excellently at Holyrood.
mortonjag 2007-03-07 12:28:25
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 7 2007, 11:32 AM) [snapback]239372[/snapback]
Well, maybe his flash motor at least. laugh.gif

I do not possess a 'flash' motor-it's actually very understated-so much in fact that its performance often raises an eyebrow-a bit like myself I guess! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-07 12:30:20
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Mar 7 2007, 11:57 AM) [snapback]239387[/snapback]
Agreed, but it seems that the courts seem to lean towards believing the girl, even though it's up to the prosecution to prove guilt (and not up to the accused to prove innocence).

Indeed, and I guess it will always be that way-imperfect-but probably correct most of the time.
mortonjag 2007-03-07 12:32:49
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Mar 7 2007, 11:13 AM) [snapback]239362[/snapback]
'I think I have finally shaken off that bugger mortonjag'.

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mortonjag 2007-03-07 12:33:25
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 7 2007, 11:38 AM) [snapback]239374[/snapback]
No, I think that is Mortonjag. Pictured with his pals. laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2007-03-07 12:34:14
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Mar 7 2007, 11:50 AM) [snapback]239381[/snapback]
Beat me to it. The quote:

"As for you Mr McInally a monkey could do your job".

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mortonjag 2007-03-07 12:36:32
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 7 2007, 11:26 AM) [snapback]239370[/snapback]
Didn't know it was a cup match ? rolleyes.gif

I'll check with the sage and get back to you. blink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-07 13:45:27
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Mar 7 2007, 01:25 PM) [snapback]239419[/snapback]
No Mr Mortonjag I have no interest in politics it seems you would be an excellent choice for politician as you have a great knack for telling everyone how things should be done. As for Animal Farm yes I have read it and where did I say I'd pay as much as it takes? I said I'd be prepared to pay more in taxes if it protected Scottish industry rather than my tax dollar furthering the economy of some East European outfit. It seems you're not as bright as you make out. My analogy with the doctors is quite correct for you state that it is simply a case of economics. Therefore other than the balance sheet and procuring the lowest price available, nothing else matters. This is after all what a truly free market economy is all about.

Oh I see-you'd be willing to pay as much as you saw fit-seems to me that's pretty well a convenient capitalist lip service to impossible ideology.

Your analogy is total mince, and you're either struggling, or as I suspect, only bright enough to be dangerous. Cheap African doctors-your emotive expression, not mine- are incapable of doing the job here. Polish boats, I'm led to understand are able to float.
mortonjag 2007-03-07 13:49:35
QUOTE(leyTON @ Mar 7 2007, 01:26 PM) [snapback]239420[/snapback]
its not been confirmed he has alcoholism
rumour mongers! ohmy.gif

I'm not aware of anyone having stated that he IS an alcoholic.
mortonjag 2007-03-07 13:52:46
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Mar 7 2007, 01:15 PM) [snapback]239409[/snapback]
Could you no be a bit more nimble and attempt to kiss your own ar@~ MJ? tongue.gif that WOULD be a sight to behold....then again mibies no ohmy.gif

Oh, if you wish, but for once I was offering to make a sacrifice. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-07 13:56:35
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 7 2007, 01:34 PM) [snapback]239424[/snapback]
I have this conversation with my mates way too much, and the answer is that we don't have the ball in the box enough! We play the ball around the edge of the area a lot, but there is a lack of penetration from the strikers! I mean, you would think with the amount of twisting and turning that big Sanny does that some donkey centre-half would chop hiom down! He did win the last penalty we got, in the 3-1 win away at Raith!

Sanny always just seems to flop down, and it rarely looks like a penalty though it probably is more often than not. As for the rest, nobody seems to attack goal with any pace inside the box. We're crying out for Bobby Linn to get a start IMO.
mortonjag 2007-03-07 15:15:21
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Mar 7 2007, 03:03 PM) [snapback]239461[/snapback]
zzzzz dry.gif listen to Mr Knowitall! The point I was trying to make is that in a completely free market economy, price is the only measuring tool and quality or value for money is not a deciding factor, therefore regardless of whether or not African doctors can perform as well as UK doctors, they are much cheaper and so free market forces should dictate that they be employed at the expense of the better trained local doctors. Get that in to your thicko head. You talk of capitalist lip service but I have yet to see a capitalist system that is completely free and 100% non protectionist. Even the Americans protect their own to an extent.

Your theoretical point is entirely valid. I believe, however, that Polish yards have to comply with EU quality regulations just as we do. 'Cheap African doctors' are UNABLE to compete in our regulated market, as they do NOT conform to our standards, and when African doctors do they are paid the going rate.

Furthermore, what makes you think that quality is never a consideration in a 'free' market? I believe the whole idea is to get a compromise, and that that is what frequently happens in real life.
mortonjag 2007-03-07 15:27:22 The quality of referee we normally get is pretty poor IMO, but some are consistently bad to both teams, and since Fyfe seems to have retired, Hardie's now the biggest sinner.

As SW says, however, there's little we can do about it, unless you happen to be a crackshot with a good vantage point.
mortonjag 2007-03-08 06:56:10
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 7 2007, 09:08 PM) [snapback]239599[/snapback]
Very good for the Polish I'm sure. But why should the Scottish Executive prefer to keep Polish workers in a job, rather than Scottish workers ? Is it because they are forced to by EU legislation ? If that's the case then 'Independence in Europe' really is a contradiction in terms.

Why indeed, DE, and why indeed did we ever become part of this crazy set up?

I have huge sympathy for the Ferguson's boys, and no small affection either, as an old mate worked there as a naval architect for many years.

I'm afraid I just get hot under the collar when I hear the old lefty drums banging on about the 'haves' and 'have nots' of this world, as they 'put it to rights' with their fanciful ideological notions while indulging their petty 'chip on the shoulder' mentality by throwing insults at those they perceive to be better off than them.
mortonjag 2007-03-08 07:11:53
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Mar 7 2007, 11:13 PM) [snapback]239638[/snapback]
Auld Brooksy looks like hes nudged some turps in his time, so maybe its a trip to see Betty Ford then everything will be okay for the future.

I know a few Morton Supporters Clubs have a wee bit of a tiff with Rowan Alexander this weather, but hes still one of ours. I personally would sooner have him at Cappielow than McInally.

I personally would sooner have Wee Willie Winkie, than both of them put together.
mortonjag 2007-03-08 07:15:52
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Mar 7 2007, 04:08 PM) [snapback]239477[/snapback]
Hi folks. I am looking for a new car just as a wee runabout, preferibaly a VW Golf. I am selling my Vectra just now and will have about £1000 to £1200 max to spend. If any of you knows anyone selling a Golf, or poss an Astra, please let me know.

Waste of space this lot Weegie. Go on line at Scottish Autotrader. You'll see a big selection of good used low mileage motors. If it's a 'wee runabout' think smaller-maybe a Polo. The Nissan Micra seems to go on for ever too, and you can pick up a V reg within that price bracket.
mortonjag 2007-03-08 07:20:04
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Mar 7 2007, 03:59 PM) [snapback]239471[/snapback]
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Fantastic.

FAO anybody mystified at Specky's reaction to my innocuous post, he's off in a huge huff because of something silly he said on the general nonsense forum.

Oh well, another one bites the dust.

'Next for shaving'! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-08 07:23:32
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 7 2007, 07:40 PM) [snapback]239563[/snapback]
Are you re-training as an accountant - or an actuary?

I'm afraid that was Giraffe's baws stuff TT, but actuary--NO!
mortonjag 2007-03-08 07:26:22
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 7 2007, 07:35 PM) [snapback]239559[/snapback]
If I had a pound for every time someone pointed this out to mortonjag, I'd have at least three quid laugh.gif

FFS, is it only THREE times?

Like father, like son. Who's counting!!! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-08 07:32:17
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Mar 7 2007, 07:56 PM) [snapback]239572[/snapback]
Agree with all that.

Unless Peter truly masters ONE position next season then I really don't see where he'll fit in.

mortonjag will hate me for saying this but other than his wee purple patch when he first arrived at the club he's looked distinctly average up front, certainly not a guy capable of leading a promotion bid in the first division.

Would love to be proved wrong.

So would I, and I don't hate you or anybody, not even JM!

Spoonsy was signed after a prolific goalscoring career elsewhere. It's no surprise to me that he entirely fits the pattern at Scapa those days.

Stevenson, is of course the latest victim of this mysterious illness.
mortonjag 2007-03-08 07:36:43
QUOTE(=BrIdO= @ Mar 8 2007, 01:36 AM) [snapback]239674[/snapback]
Weatherson himself said he hates playing upfront, having his back to goal...

That's now been posted about twenty times!

JM asked him to play right back because JM likes doing strange things. JM is Spoonsy's boss.

'You prefer playing at right back, DON'T you Peter'?

'Right on mate'-erm 'Sorry Mr McInally, I couldn't think of any other position I'd rather play in--SIR'. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-08 07:52:59
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 8 2007, 05:01 AM) [snapback]239679[/snapback]
i don't think we're being taken for granted. i think people within the club - from the top down - are actively blaming us for the shortcomings on the pitch. it's been brewing for a few years now, but there's definitely a siege mentality at scapa just now.

i appreciate what dougie has done for morton no end, but his 'golden boy' mentality is at the root of our inability to get out this league in past seasons and our struggles this term.

Breaks my heart to agree with this doped up freak, but I do.

The fans reaction is ALWAYS just that-a reaction. We love Morton, not the Chairman and Board, and not necessarily individual players either.

DDFR's already on his third manager, and clearly has f*cked up again, and the fans are getting more and more restless.

Weeks go by, results come and go, and the same old tripe is dished out in the press and the programme notes by the Chairman and Manager.

Now when their grand scheme is turning into an embarrassing painful stagger towards the finishing line, as much less able contestants breath down our necks, WE, the faithful fans who pay our hard earned dosh to go through the turnstyles, are being BLAMED for reacting to THEIR ineptitude.

Collectively they have amassed a shower of talented wee boys who clearly haven't a clue when it comes to the realities of second division football. That is not helped by the apparently pig headed persistence of JM in playing what LCM describes as 'golden boys'.

I watched St Johnstone show 'Well' a few things the other night-Coyle has relied very heavily on experience, and it inevitably pays off.

IMO DDFR, JM, and some on this board need to stand back and take a hard look at the big picture.

AYE-we're top of the league-TODAY.
mortonjag 2007-03-08 09:11:54 36 year old Scottish football fan knocked down and killed by taxi in Milan.

That is very sad by ANY standards.
mortonjag 2007-03-08 09:16:29
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Mar 8 2007, 12:17 AM) [snapback]239657[/snapback]
Thats worse, at least the papers tell the truth some of the time laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2007-03-08 11:28:59
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Mar 8 2007, 09:57 AM) [snapback]239706[/snapback]
Thanks Mr Jag. I have being doing that but I thought I would put the feelers out on the board as well, just in case anyone had one for sale or knew of anyone with one for sale. I lost out on two Golfs recently cause the phones in my work have been mental and I couldn't get to call the sellers in time.

Good luck!
mortonjag 2007-03-08 12:38:24
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 8 2007, 11:23 AM) [snapback]239733[/snapback]
Seen as how yer so smart and all, can ye no figure out people put you on ignore because you talk the biggest load of s***e this board has ever seen - and that takes some doing!! Newton's crazy ramblings are nothing compared tae your drivel. Where is Newton anyway?

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mortonjag 2007-03-08 12:41:44
QUOTE(Frank Grimes @ Mar 8 2007, 12:12 PM) [snapback]239754[/snapback]
Stop pretending you speak on behalf of anyone other than yourself.... dry.gif

Sorry grease spot, the fans I take it are not getting restless. I defer to your superior intelligence. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-08 12:43:31
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 8 2007, 12:39 PM) [snapback]239770[/snapback]
he speaks for the pompous arse-brained quack section of our support.

You're a sneaky wee 'jaked up creep' using others' quotes. Take me off 'ignore' you bumptious little cretin, and I'll 'pompous arse brained quack' you.
mortonjag 2007-03-08 12:47:40
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 8 2007, 12:45 PM) [snapback]239774[/snapback]
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dobber.

That's much better! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-08 12:50:03 I find it difficult to believe that anybody is attacked JUST for wearing a cross, or crucifix, or whatever else you want to call those things, but who knows? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-08 12:53:06
QUOTE(Frank Grimes @ Mar 8 2007, 12:11 PM) [snapback]239753[/snapback]
Interesting that you still can't spell McAlister dry.gif

Do they not use full stops at the end of their sentences in Springfield? cool.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-08 12:55:31 Went there this morning looking for a jigsaw. Their most basic was £19 and out of stock.

Nipped along to Tesco, and got a more powerful model for £13.
mortonjag 2007-03-08 15:04:36
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Mar 8 2007, 02:20 PM) [snapback]239838[/snapback]
Just been offered a Rover 214 R reg for £800. 60k on the clock. Anyone know if they are any good? Worried about getting parts for them as well.

There will still be plenty of parts around for a long time to come Weegie-it's certainly a low mileage, and if everything else is in order, might be an OK buy. Personally I'd go for a Gerry or a Jap.

BTW Eddie at Florida motors off Lochleven Rd. is extremely reliable for checkups, MOT's and general servicing, if you don't already have your own guy.
mortonjag 2007-03-08 15:07:27
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Mar 8 2007, 01:00 PM) [snapback]239788[/snapback]
Really? Many people are happy to use any reason to attack someone. Especially when it comes to the 'sectarian' issue in this country.

Which is kind of what I and the last two are saying-any old reason, if you get my drift.
mortonjag 2007-03-08 15:10:58
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mortonjag 2007-03-08 15:13:01
QUOTE(Frank Grimes @ Mar 8 2007, 01:15 PM) [snapback]239799[/snapback]
Thanks for the updateFULL STOP

Let us know when you next have a cup of teaFULL STOP
Yes, I am stalking you actuallyFULL STOP

Many have stalked before you grease spot-welcome to the fray, but don't expect too quick a reply, as I'm laying a floor.
mortonjag 2007-03-08 15:14:51
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Mar 8 2007, 03:12 PM) [snapback]239860[/snapback]
Yip thanks for the tip. I have got a guy in Thornliebank who i usually go to. Did there not used to be a garage around Lochleven Road that sold cars? Seem to remember going there about 5 years ago to look at a car. Can't remember the name of the street though.

I suspect that was a Skoda agency a while back Weegie. I only moved back to the South Side three years ago.
mortonjag 2007-03-08 15:17:50
QUOTE(Frank Grimes @ Mar 8 2007, 01:09 PM) [snapback]239795[/snapback]
About timeFULL STOP

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Do you suffer from premature ejaculation marks as well as omitting your full stops?

THAT'S a bit cheeky after 25 posts grease spot. blink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-08 15:19:40
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Mar 8 2007, 01:55 PM) [snapback]239825[/snapback]
I thought exactly the opposite - the reason he takes so long to kick the ball is his lack of comfort.

Still think he's ok, and did very well on Saturday. Not world class, but what do you expect in the second division?

John Hillcoat was commenting on Mathers' excellent kicking ability in his column recently.
mortonjag 2007-03-08 16:04:39
QUOTE(Frank Grimes @ Mar 8 2007, 03:20 PM) [snapback]239868[/snapback]
Grease spot eh? Learned a new insult have we?

I love you.

Much more endearing than 'Grimey' if you ask me darling! wub.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-08 16:06:57
QUOTE(Frank Grimes @ Mar 8 2007, 03:18 PM) [snapback]239865[/snapback]
Pffft, bring itFULL STOP

rolleyes.gif When will this fool stop? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-09 09:01:56
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 8 2007, 04:20 PM) [snapback]239891[/snapback]
We've been asking the same thing of you since your post number 1.

I can recommend a good therapist for multiple personality syndrome.
mortonjag 2007-03-09 09:02:54
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Mar 8 2007, 04:42 PM) [snapback]239899[/snapback]
Hombase is just as bad, went in there the other day and some old geezer in an Orange boiler suit if I wanted decking, Its ok though, I managed to get the first punch in.

Or have I said that before. blink.gif

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mortonjag 2007-03-09 09:06:22
QUOTE(tigerjock @ Mar 8 2007, 05:20 PM) [snapback]239929[/snapback]
Another pearl of wisdom from the resident font of knowledge.

OAP day out to B&Q, to join fellow washed up decrepit beings types in orange apron and black fleece who edge closer day by day to the trap door of life, discussion centred on the price of rubber sheets and how many times one had to empty their bladder during the night.

Purchase complete and the shuffle home in slacks with his pyjamas underneath to show his good lady what a clever boy he has been and that the capability to perform general DIY tasks is not beyond him...yet.

And to finish off....a post on the MB to inform all and sundry of his exciting morning.

Looks like you are not alone
http://www.axa.co.uk/media/pressreleases/2...70202_1100.html

OAP got a lovely reward last night-back to the DIY today I'm afraid, stipey tadger! sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-09 09:11:05
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Mar 8 2007, 04:47 PM) [snapback]239909[/snapback]
I think he just did laugh.gif

GRIMEY
mortonjag 2007-03-09 09:13:05
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 8 2007, 10:32 PM) [snapback]240013[/snapback]
Shes only upset because she has a topless Colin Hardie Calendar above her bed tongue.gif

When was he 'topped'-fantastic news that! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-09 09:16:58
QUOTE(Superton @ Mar 8 2007, 10:38 PM) [snapback]240020[/snapback]
2-0 Morton, goals from Linn and Stevenson.

Crowd 890.

Morton starting line up as follows:

Mathers

Weatherson Greacen Harding McGregor

Miller McLaughlin Stevenson McAllister

Linn Templeman

Remember, you're either with us or you're against us. Get behind the team, especially when the going gets tough, and we will win this league. Every time I hear a negative comment in the Cowshed I try to counter it with encouragement. As I've said before, the only time the players deserve criticism is if they are not trying. That is patently not the case.

Having said that, am I the only one feeling that the players have adopted a bit of a "siege mentality"? No acknowledgement of the shed after either goal on Saturday, or even at full time, which to me suggests that the players have adopted a "stuff them, we're in this by ourselves" mentality. I can fully understand why they might be feeling like that, given the nonsense that some (in a minority) spout, but I'm afraid that an "ignore the fans" policy is the wrong tactic.

The guy with the responsibility to sort this is McInally. He must sense what is happening and should let the players know in no uncertain terms that they won't win if they "take on" the fans.

So, clean start on Saturday from both sides. Let's roar our team onto the title!

You clearly have some inside knowledge Sir-when was Gowser injured? rolleyes.gif

Good post-I agree with you in general, and if the players are doing their best we can expect no more of them.
mortonjag 2007-03-09 09:18:54
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 8 2007, 10:41 PM) [snapback]240023[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Mar 8 2007, 04:19 PM) [snapback]239890[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I hope Rowan is okay and has a speedy recovery from his troubles but I think the fans would never except him as manager (1) For his comments last season and (2) He has never proved himself as a manager my 11 year old daughter could manage Gretna with the resources he has had.
So if shes that good why hasn't she replaced the present incumbrant

They can't afford her wages.
mortonjag 2007-03-09 09:21:38
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Mar 8 2007, 09:37 PM) [snapback]239994[/snapback]
Was just about to post similar.

Don't know what you're talking about anyway, Drumgelloch's a lovely part of Lanarkshire.

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And nowhere near that stadium with the stupid name!
mortonjag 2007-03-09 09:30:34
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Mar 8 2007, 10:32 PM) [snapback]240014[/snapback]
What if its a Charing Cross

Or there again an Andy Ritchie cross.
mortonjag 2007-03-09 09:34:45
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 8 2007, 08:51 PM) [snapback]239971[/snapback]
Do I know you?

Jodie Foster in Flightplan is the absolute double of my wife.

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mortonjag 2007-03-09 09:36:11
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 9 2007, 09:33 AM) [snapback]240093[/snapback]
The Cross Of Lorraine.

Naw - she's quiche compared to Ritchie. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-09 09:39:18
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 9 2007, 09:37 AM) [snapback]240096[/snapback]
I've always liked Jodie Foster. All together now "My name is Tallulah".

Tallulah Tafkac has a nice ring to it-full of eastern promise.
mortonjag 2007-03-09 09:40:46
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 9 2007, 09:38 AM) [snapback]240097[/snapback]
Have to disagree she has a better figure than big Andy tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2007-03-09 10:46:00
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 9 2007, 09:42 AM) [snapback]240100[/snapback]
Aye just like everyone else in Greenock. tongue.gif

Yer picture reminds me of my 'winchin' days up the Lyle Hill in an old Ford Prefect with hopeless windscreen wipers, and three forward gears!

'Can it be that it was all so simple then.. or has time...' sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-09 11:02:14
QUOTE(big B @ Mar 9 2007, 10:08 AM) [snapback]240105[/snapback]
I would not let her so she could be shot down in pieces on this forum.

Nobody would dream of upsetting a manager who behaves like a nine year old lassie! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-09 11:06:07 Airdrie folks are the salt of the earth, and anyway, I don't want to have to trek to Dumfries twice a year.
mortonjag 2007-03-09 11:25:40
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Mar 6 2007, 12:17 PM) [snapback]239008[/snapback]
I don't think the song will be changed as it was the chairmans choice, however my favourite would be Club Foot by Kasibian or Zadok the Priest (run out song at Newcastle).

'Club foot' would probably be seen as an insult to some of the players.
mortonjag 2007-03-09 11:28:37
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Mar 8 2007, 02:54 PM) [snapback]239850[/snapback]
I don't think Jim McAllister is playing that badly. When he actually takes people on, he's still pretty effective. However, he isn't doing it nearly enough these days. He needs to be encouraged to take people on because that's what he's good at. Playing the way he does now, he seems too much like a passenger.

Chris Millar is someone who I've disliked this season. He just gives away the ball far too much. He shows brief spells of good play, but the bad seems to outweigh the good this season.

Midge has been well off form-he should be on the bench tomorrow with Linn starting IMO.
mortonjag 2007-03-09 11:30:17
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Mar 8 2007, 02:49 PM) [snapback]239847[/snapback]
He's a decent player. I agree with the point that there's been far too many times that he's been caught out of position. I remember watching him at an away game against Stirling a while back, and he was playing in the holding midfield role and he did VERY well there. That would also give him more freedom to come forward, but with Scott McLaughlin in that role, then it might not be a very good idea.

Just like David McGregor-IMO he's a reasonable midfielder but often gets caught out at left back.
mortonjag 2007-03-09 11:31:38
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It does get worse with age. Probably due to not having to consume as much to hit it. Or that could just be the strong Polish lager kicking in.

Don't polish it off then!
mortonjag 2007-03-09 13:42:48
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I think he's suggesting shifting mcgowan either onto the wing or into the attacking centre mid role.

The latter, where I believe he's best.
mortonjag 2007-03-09 13:46:37
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 9 2007, 11:33 AM) [snapback]240139[/snapback]
Do you have some sort of medical condition whereby you can't help posting inane drivel on every single thread?

Oh I guess that's probable Almighty One. Don't be modest and ask questions when you know the answers to the whole universe.
mortonjag 2007-03-09 13:57:38
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 9 2007, 11:31 AM) [snapback]240137[/snapback]
Part of me would love to see the Dirty Fokkers (copyright Stan Boardman) get relegated but it would also be great to take 12 points of them next season and also Dungfries - hate going down there. Much prefer a good away trip to Dingwall as I always enjoy footballing sojourns to the Heilans

The Ton have never played in the Heilans.

Do you always post inane drivel? wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-10 07:15:49
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 9 2007, 11:52 PM) [snapback]240348[/snapback]
Sounds like it's the Mad Doctor Mentaljag. Mibbe not though, doubt if he would lower himself to podger a Peugeot. I'm sure he's more likely to shag a Saab.

OK I admit it, but you're correct-I prefer them big. I'm not at all ashamed of myself when I hear all the disgusting filth perpetrated on this forum by Messrs Boozehound (who claims to ride BIKES), and company.

Oh, and my latest test confirmed I'm HGV negative. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-10 07:21:04
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Mar 10 2007, 12:33 AM) [snapback]240357[/snapback]
Heres what a Protestant Cross looks like:

CLICK HERE

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That's Paisley cross.
mortonjag 2007-03-10 07:28:20
QUOTE(rex manning @ Mar 9 2007, 02:10 PM) [snapback]240184[/snapback]
I did agree mr Jag, but that was before JM switched Stevenson into the centre. Are you suggesting putting Jamie back out on the wing when we've all been calling for him to get put in the middle?

It's a 'no win' situation IMO. Gowser's come back on to some decent form, so I wouldn't drop him and JM would never do that anyhow, but he's NOT a striker, and we've just bought Linn.

I've repeatedly said we're top heavy in midfield with a dearth of players elsewhere, and it's really a case of what's going to work best-IF THAT EVER GETS TRIED.

Millar's very productive when on song, but I'd say Stevenson is more capable of playing a roving role alongside Gowser.

mortonjag 2007-03-10 07:35:57
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 9 2007, 05:18 PM) [snapback]240232[/snapback]
OK smart arse so where is Dingwall, Inverness, Fort William and Elgin then? You're becoming a bigger tube with evry post you make. As you're a doctor, do us all a favour and commit yourself.

Hook, line and sinker, you halfwit.

Don't you mean, 'Where ARE Dingwall etc.', and 'every' post?

I'm still not sure of the identity of your multiple personalities to whom you wish a favour done.

Stay of the Grenadine sonny boy.

mortonjag 2007-03-10 07:38:17
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 9 2007, 10:44 PM) [snapback]240315[/snapback]
I doubt he has the qualifications sad.gif

Section 24, Mental Health Act (Scotland), and we do not use the term 'Committed'.
mortonjag 2007-03-10 07:44:11
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 10 2007, 12:13 AM) [snapback]240351[/snapback]
Aye chrissiboi, that McInally is a wee cunning runt alright.

Sacrilege-he is NOT cunning. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-10 07:46:12
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 9 2007, 05:13 PM) [snapback]240230[/snapback]
Rubbish. Gretna when they were in the third division went out and signed the captain of Aberdeen such was their financial spending power. They also signed up experienced SPL players to drop two or three divisions. Morton cannot compete even remotely with that. It is only now that these players are starting to get too old that they are being discarded, combined with Gretna's need to cut costs. If Gretna win the first division which looks likely they will become the first side ever to have won the third, second and first in successive seasons. That is due more to the vast squad than it is with the manager.

When the time comes to leave Gretna Alexander will probably get a shot at a decent level (prob lower premier / first) where he will be quickly found out and his career will be as good as over.

That's NOT inane drivel. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-10 07:54:13 Both clubs had money, but Gretna had it in abundance.

Alexander used his common sense-he bought players who had proved their ability, and let them get on with it. That, allied to obscenely large bonuses, guaranteed success for a while. Every time they falter now 'Big Gob' blames his players, but the truth is his managerial ability has never been proven.

I am still baffled by our failure to incorporate an adequate measure of experience into the squad, and that's mainly why we're so erratic.

Well, I suppose it's never too late to learn, but you've got to be willing to do it!
mortonjag 2007-03-10 08:00:31
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 8 2007, 05:10 PM) [snapback]239925[/snapback]
PC Gone Mad

A catholic girl in the Highlands is suing the council because she was placed in foster care in a protestant family. The courts reckon there may actually be a case!! blink.gif

If the courts reckon there might actually be a case, it would have been wiser to await the full backgound history, before jumping to conclusions about PC going mad.

The press are great at 'spin', and this has probably got far more to do with the whole substance of the fostering, than just the religious element.
mortonjag 2007-03-10 08:05:06 Just had a sad thought-this might be the last time I ever see that tubby wee Alloa ball boy bossing his mate around as he beasts into his Twixes.
mortonjag 2007-03-10 08:26:26 Just happened to dig up this old thread, and was wondering:

1/ Are those parties still interested?

2/ If so, what sort of price would they now be talking?
mortonjag 2007-03-11 08:37:10
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Mar 10 2007, 08:51 AM) [snapback]240380[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif Had forgotten about him.
Think last weeks win was the boost the team needed.
Gonna go for a 4-0 win today. Spoonsy for his 100th. Templeman for a couple and Linn for the last after coming off the bench.
Crowd 865.

Very close Weegie!
mortonjag 2007-03-11 08:53:01 This is the first time I've felt comfortable about the boys for 90 minutes in quite a while.

Alloa were extremely ordinarly and had a patchwork side on so I really don't think we should take too much from the game.

For me the two biggest positives were Stevenson's vintage peformance (allowed to play his natural role-full marks to JM for that), and an inspired shift from DM. Although he still lacks pace, he looked very comfortable, and was creative coming forward. If he can keep this form, surely he should be played in another role.

Negatives:

Their keepers were only forced into making a couple of saves in the whole game despite our total dominance. We should be starting with our striker IMO.

Another lack lustre display from Jimbo-can't understand why he wasn't subbed.

In the second half we had yet again two or three inviting balls-one superb one from Spoonsy in particular) put across the face of the goal, just BEGGING for a striker in position, yet again JM left Linn warming the bench until the dying minutes.

I feel sorry for the boy. That's not the first time this season it's happened, and in his desperation to prove himself he put a good opportunity over the bar.
mortonjag 2007-03-11 08:59:47
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 11 2007, 12:12 AM) [snapback]240933[/snapback]
I used to regularly write letters to newspapers. Given that most of what the print is total pish you only have to know what buttons to push; Daily Record hate the Tories, Daily Mail hate gypsies/Jews/women/the poor, it's really easy. I made about £80 in one month in the mid-80s writing to papers.

Ah-inspiration from an unexpected source-I'll call myself 'Ton to shreds', and make a few bob writing my usual pish! cool.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-11 09:02:55 Jimbo's goal at Brechin was more spectacular, even if it was a 'hit and hope'.
mortonjag 2007-03-11 10:39:53
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 10 2007, 08:58 PM) [snapback]240808[/snapback]
I have said before Peter is the one player who has that winning mentality in abundance . He may not have liked getting subbed earlier in the season but that would have been down to him dissappointed with his own contribution .
Well done Peter .

Morton defender scores 100th league goal.

Well done Spoonsy-you'll always be a striker at heart!
mortonjag 2007-03-11 10:51:47
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 11 2007, 10:03 AM) [snapback]241077[/snapback]
Watching it next door as my mate just got Setanta, decided not to bet on it so I don't really care, although the 3/1 on Rangers was very tempting!!

Today the Tims are in much the same position as we've been all season-everybody wants to put one over on them. I agree-the Huns are a good bet.
mortonjag 2007-03-11 10:56:32
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 11 2007, 09:13 AM) [snapback]241054[/snapback]
And therein lies the difference.

Which might make Gowser's against Forfar the best of all!
mortonjag 2007-03-11 11:05:22 If the bairns (ours I mean), approach this game in the right frame of mind, it frankly doesn't matter what tactics, team, or formation we play. On our day we are far too good for the rest, and that includes the Binos.

History unfortunately suggests that we may blow it again.
mortonjag 2007-03-11 11:08:01
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 11 2007, 11:03 AM) [snapback]241119[/snapback]
Agreed.

Just had a wee thought-Sanny's against Killie-totally took the piss out of a 'top 6' SPL defence!
mortonjag 2007-03-11 11:09:52 unsure.gif
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 11 2007, 11:07 AM) [snapback]241122[/snapback]
f*** history. We're going to win.

unsure.gif into necrophilia now-is there no end to your depravity? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-11 11:14:18
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Mar 11 2007, 02:10 AM) [snapback]241019[/snapback]
For that fan that sang his heart out today.

We won 3-0 today and we didnt even sing a bloody song

Im ashamed of myself.

But well done that man, he tried to raise the spirits of the travelling support mellow.gif

A wee bit unfair AT-we did get behind the boys-I didn't hear any negative stuff, and a lot of us stayed to clap them off-which some noticed and responded to. The Alloa fans were as quiet as mice most of the time-there wasn't much to get us going.
mortonjag 2007-03-11 19:14:20
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Mar 11 2007, 03:07 PM) [snapback]241250[/snapback]
If he was at any other club, he'd have been chucked out long ago for his antics but at Celtic he perpetuates the the protestant conspiracy myth that everyone's against him and is seen by the Parkhead faithful to play with the heart of ireland. He's a balloon and not even that good a footballer!!

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mortonjag 2007-03-11 19:18:20
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Mar 11 2007, 02:47 PM) [snapback]241233[/snapback]
woopi f***ing do lets give him the supporter of the year award all wrapped up in a union flag and dripping with fenian blood

Closet Tim ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-11 19:26:13
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Mar 11 2007, 11:16 AM) [snapback]241128[/snapback]
I think yesterday the side answered their critics and dealt comfortably and professionally with a victory. Two fine goals and one opportunistic strike (from a corner, we're starting to take advantage of set-pieces which is good!) and a good confidence boosting performance.

Mathers 7- had little to but pulled off a fantastic save late on and his positioning was faultless all game as he dealt comfortably with long-range shots.

Weatherson 8- scored a great free-kick at an important moment in the game. It is good we have a player who can handle the set-piece situation like that. Moved into midfield and was equally comfortable.

McGregor 9- was a class act yesterday. So composed and never missed a beat all game. Even skinned his man on the right wing before putting in a cross (albeit ended up out of play!) MOM

Harding 7- Solid and very close to being back to normal

Greacen 7- Same as Harding

McLaughlin 6- Quiet game, but performance picked up after the second goal when Weatherson slotted in alongside

Millar 7- Hard working performance and linked up well at times down the right. Was impressed with his seamless switch to RWB

Stevenson 8- Ran the show in the middle of the park and was given free reign which he made use of. Excellent goal and good running. Looked really up for it and more confident. Can only be a good thing for next week.

Templeman 7- Did well up front and opened up play well.

McGowan 7- Busied about and looked lively.

McAllister 7- Much better than recent weeks, won the free-kick and as usual worked extremely hard, like Millar looked comfortable in LWB role.

All subs were fine when they came on with Finlayson in particular looking hungry.

All questions answered, no problems!

That's it sorted then? Surely we've been here before more than once. sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-11 19:32:39 WTF did he send THAT query to OXFORD university? I can't be arsed, but I'll guarantee he'd have been more likely to get a reply from Glasgow.

They don't take us too seriously at Oxbridge. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-11 19:41:26
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Mar 11 2007, 11:55 AM) [snapback]241152[/snapback]
Ah bliss. I see the old fool's been awfully quiet today - not the usual 100 and odd posts on every thread. All it takes too is a comprehensive Morton victory and suddenly he's nothing to moan about.

A comprehensive victory you specky t***-FFS their goalies made ONE genuine save in the whole match, and we got about six corners in all!

If Spoonsy hadn't scored that cracker just on half time it could have been much harder in the second period.

Granted, we were well in control, but if we had brought our striker on earlier, it could have been five or six.

Oh, and why did St. James yet again pull off another player who had it totally 'sorted'.

WELL-you did ask for a moan-I NEVER disappoint my loved ones. wub.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-11 19:45:28
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 11 2007, 11:58 AM) [snapback]241156[/snapback]
i'm in the same club. every now and again someone quotes him and i read what he's got to say. still the same pompous, self-aggrandising drivel.

Just had another wee puff?

Jumping on specky's bandwagon's about your level I guess. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-11 19:47:57
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Mar 11 2007, 12:02 PM) [snapback]241161[/snapback]
Mortonjag - the Morton forum's very own Jimmy Hill.

BMFC - the Morton forum's failed Archie McPherson.
mortonjag 2007-03-11 19:51:02
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Mar 11 2007, 02:04 PM) [snapback]241208[/snapback]
I still think that regardless of the result Morton will win the league.

Of course they will Specky-in spite of St James of the impeccable gameplan-and I said it first. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-11 19:54:23
QUOTE(MIFTHEBINO @ Mar 11 2007, 02:06 PM) [snapback]241209[/snapback]
I think 2-1 to the Binos. How many do you think you will bring through?

I reckon 1400 Binos and 1500 Morton fans so I'll opt for 2900. Capacity is 3808, but I cant see it getting near that.

I believe for once MIF, that our boys will hold their bottle, and if so this will be a cracker in which you'll concede defeat to their talent, despite the efforts of both managers!
mortonjag 2007-03-11 19:57:10
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 11 2007, 12:12 PM) [snapback]241168[/snapback]
he's got a saab? how on earth do you know that?

oh yeah. he told everybody. i forgot

Bentley arrives tomorrow-Saab goes to the 'missus'.
mortonjag 2007-03-11 19:58:48
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 11 2007, 11:52 AM) [snapback]241149[/snapback]
What about a messageboard poster of the year award ? I'd vote for the mad Doctor. laugh.gif

Oh goody-is there a BIG prize? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-11 19:59:58
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Mar 11 2007, 04:38 PM) [snapback]241287[/snapback]
I prefer keenan to mclaughlin to be honest. I know that a holding midfielder isn't gonna be noticed all that much but he's just too anonymous and i thought deano was excellent when he had a run in the team.

Just another face that doesn't fit, I guess.
mortonjag 2007-03-11 20:12:07
QUOTE(pm1976 @ Mar 11 2007, 03:45 PM) [snapback]241266[/snapback]
With the gap now down to a mere 4 points, it looks like another arse collapsing is in progress down Greenock way. With St Mirren having all but secured their rightful place in the big league, it must make it all the more sickening to be a supporter of a team who has earned itself the reputation as the biggest bottle merchants in scottish football history.

Get it right up ye.

FFS-scraped a draw and gleefully sooked the mingin' s*** off yer nappy to post it here.

Get a f*ckin' life you retard-you're an embarrassment to the SPL, and next year we'll be swapping places as your inevitable slump gains momentum.
mortonjag 2007-03-11 20:15:33
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 11 2007, 06:54 PM) [snapback]241317[/snapback]
Now you're talking, I love the WRC.

Women's Rambling Club.
mortonjag 2007-03-11 20:20:02
QUOTE(WullTon @ Mar 11 2007, 08:14 PM) [snapback]241350[/snapback]
Hardie has a husband na na na

They're not getting married-the wee c*nt's too tight to buy a ring.
mortonjag 2007-03-11 20:22:48
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 11 2007, 08:15 PM) [snapback]241353[/snapback]
Have to agree with your praise for Stirling , we know only to well how frustrating it is to be chasing teams . Especially if the season falls flat . Stirling will have to be careful that they aren't caught with a sense of dissappointment if they get into the play offs . As we painfully know that the play offs have little sympathy with those who amassed the most points .
The problem with the rest is there is not a sustained push for success last years Peterhead are this years Stirling and next season it will be someone else . None seem to have the strength in depth to challenge season after season .
Most of us are aware that being a poor SPL side is not much fun , even when they could bring great reward like beating Rangers 2-1 at Cappielow , think of the Killie game and multiply it by 10 the feeling was that good .
However getting cuffed week in week out wasn't the best .
I agree it is much better to ply your trade amongst teams of a similar stature which is the 1st Division .

...at the moment, but we DO have as much potential as most SPL sides apart from the big city clubs.
mortonjag 2007-03-11 20:25:34
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 11 2007, 08:22 PM) [snapback]241357[/snapback]
Lets hope it wasn't holy water , or Jack McConnell will be round to sort him out .

Two of a kind, methinks! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-11 20:42:27
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 11 2007, 08:28 PM) [snapback]241361[/snapback]
it turns out the dug out was empty and he chucked it in anger while arguing with a fan

In a BLIND rage? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-12 06:35:51
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 11 2007, 09:19 PM) [snapback]241383[/snapback]
Dunno what's happened at Subaru over the last few seasons but they seem to be on a downward spiral. Shame.

Why is it a shame? They've produced fantastic rally cars but in road version they just make the drivers look like stupid wee boys with their ridiculous spoilers and ugly duckling shapes. Easy meat for the white caps too!

I've owned two legacies in the past, but now I'd never go near them.
mortonjag 2007-03-12 06:38:41
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Mar 12 2007, 12:08 AM) [snapback]241432[/snapback]
sorry Mortonjake I missed that.

BMFC apologises! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-12 06:43:02
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 12 2007, 01:16 AM) [snapback]241439[/snapback]
i think he's got a point. ubermortonness does indeed involve hating the old scum. i made a conscious decision when i was 12 not to be a part of the sectarian stain on scotland and morton is a major part of that for me. i chose morton myself, i wasn't lifted over any turnstile to see andy ritchie when i was wee, it was all me and my beliefs about what was wrong about scotland. i think morton and our support, for the most part, are an example of what's good about scotland. we're proud of where we come from and the people we sprang from, not what religion our parents were.

proud to say f*** the old firm and all they stand for. and proud to say i am morton through and through and nothing else. it's the football choice of the inverclyde and argyll free-thinker.

FFS IT can sometimes talk sense. ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-12 06:47:36
QUOTE(edd @ Mar 12 2007, 03:08 AM) [snapback]241444[/snapback]
why's it racist to say samantha mumba looks like a monkey? just cos she's black? so now we can't say that certain black people look like monkeys while we are allowed to say that certain white people look like monkeys? doesn't seem very fair to me ...

samantha mumba (a black woman) does look like a monkey, as do george bush (a white man) and michael jackson (take your pic) - why do we have to assume that racism has anything to do with such an insult in this day and age?

Interesting post young man-you may have started something here!

For example, I can think of one of two MSP's who distinctly resemble pigs, Margaret Beckett has a definite equine look, and Prescott almost looks human.
mortonjag 2007-03-12 06:54:17
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 11 2007, 09:35 PM) [snapback]241391[/snapback]
Certainly have the potential in support and a willing chairman but there is alot of non football issues like our ground not meeting royal SPL approval .
We certainly don't have the playing capacity to withstand a season playing at that level .
From the brink of extinction is a long way back you'll remember Kilmarnock and Thistle nearly going to the wall and having long spells in the wilderness . With the exception of the bigot brothers every other team can face this scenario given the wrong intentions by a major shareholder.

There seems to be a ground swell of change in Scottish football. I know there's a huge financial argument against the OF going into the Premiership, but I'd love to see that. At least we'd be on a level playing field for the first time ever.
mortonjag 2007-03-12 06:57:45
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Mar 11 2007, 09:39 PM) [snapback]241393[/snapback]
It's been sorted all season you clown. Four defeats in 28 league matches, plus cup wins against St Johnstone and Kilmarnock, say it all. Why don't you just go away? mad.gif

laugh.gif

I'm afraid you're out on a limb there itchy baws. Discontent among the fans, diminishing crowds, and a frequent raised eyebrow from neutrals at our stuttering progress. If that's 'it sorted', you're very easily pleased.
mortonjag 2007-03-12 07:07:11
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Mar 12 2007, 12:13 AM) [snapback]241433[/snapback]
"We hate Mortonjakie, he's a ....., he's a ....."

Fill in the blanks, it won't be hard. Woof.

BMFC

BOARD'S MYOPIC FAT C*NT unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-12 07:15:32
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 9 2007, 08:30 PM) [snapback]240266[/snapback]
There's being silly, I'd need to come up with a whole new word for what you're doing... huh.gif

Next you'll be telling us that Caesar was stabbed 23 times... rolleyes.gif

Jokes which involve both time travel, and debatable half-truths are not funny. sad.gif

35 times actually, 2051 years ago this Thursday-got it from BMFC who knows everything.

Cave idus Martias.

Undoubtedly all thoughts will be with the grieving family. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-12 07:22:02
QUOTE(edd @ Mar 12 2007, 03:18 AM) [snapback]241445[/snapback]
thanks to you i did - though i muted it this time, and thank god i did (i don't even want to think about how painful it was for her).

what could cause that then?

Germs!
mortonjag 2007-03-12 07:26:25 It never ceases to amaze me how many good looking beasties are entered for Crufts, yet more often than not the winner is some ridiculously coiffeured miniature prancing around after an even more ridiculous looking owner.
mortonjag 2007-03-12 08:10:54
QUOTE(Tom McB @ Mar 12 2007, 08:05 AM) [snapback]241465[/snapback]
True, very true.
Nah, too far.

Humanoid? sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-12 08:11:57
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 12 2007, 08:07 AM) [snapback]241467[/snapback]
Joke McConnell isn't a ginger.

I was thinking more of minger.
mortonjag 2007-03-12 08:44:35
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 10 2007, 12:30 PM) [snapback]240415[/snapback]
'thomson'

i wish people would spell morton greats' names properly. thompson is the english spelling.

mmm? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-12 08:50:52 WELL? wacko.gif wub.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-12 09:09:12
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 12 2007, 09:02 AM) [snapback]241475[/snapback]
stop f***ing swearing so much.

We will win...I can feel it in my water rolleyes.gif

Were you at Forthbank two seasons ago when they announced over the tannoy that the directors had decided to ban obscene language at the ground?

Anyone heard using such would be ejected from the stadium, they claimed.

Response from the big Ton support---'F*CK OFF'-to peals of laughter throughout the stand. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-12 09:15:35
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 12 2007, 09:09 AM) [snapback]241479[/snapback]
When you get out of Ravenscraig, maybe you'll find out the truth. unsure.gif

I am not in Ravenscraig-I'm extremely choosy and currently in Gartnavel ROYAL.

I DID mean Quark, and I DID want to know if anybody eats it. It's lower in calories than cottage cheese, and much more versatile, quite like the Indian paneer...now off for another shot of ECT. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-12 09:17:59
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 12 2007, 09:10 AM) [snapback]241481[/snapback]
Willowman starting an OF thread yet again...
BTW Cappielow is in Sinclair St

Sinclair St. is in Cappielow.
mortonjag 2007-03-12 09:25:48 What's the world coming to-so far I've not read a single report of a stabbing, let alone a good old fashioned murder after yesterday's friendly at the piggery? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-12 09:29:51
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Mar 12 2007, 09:19 AM) [snapback]241485[/snapback]
Now that's strange, I changed my avater on the works computer. Went home last night and logged onto the site. My avater and personal piccy had changed. Logged onto works pc today and still got the old avater on it again. Help.

Big brother's been watching! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-12 10:17:53
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 12 2007, 09:57 AM) [snapback]241497[/snapback]
Listen they tell that to all inmates, your really in Ravenscraig. PS the padding on the walls isnae to keep you warm, its to stop you doing them damage blink.gif

Do you really imagine I'm that daft-it SAYS Gartnavel Royal on the sheets-if it was Ravenscraig it wou...HELLLPP blink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-12 10:19:52
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Mar 12 2007, 09:53 AM) [snapback]241491[/snapback]
Which avater is coming up on your system Mr Jag?

It's a wee picture of a lady. She's wearing a white hat, and sooking something that looks like a banana, though her face would have you believe otherwise!
mortonjag 2007-03-12 10:21:30
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Mar 12 2007, 09:54 AM) [snapback]241494[/snapback]
I heard that there were 22 "players" who were murder.

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-12 10:24:23
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 12 2007, 09:55 AM) [snapback]241495[/snapback]
your posts are murder, thats enough for anyone

I know-today I got one from somebody trying to sell me a digital knitting machine. Apparently all you need is your own sheep and you can make a fortune.
mortonjag 2007-03-12 10:27:40
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Mar 12 2007, 10:25 AM) [snapback]241504[/snapback]
laugh.gif smile.gif Glad you like it wink.gif

So does my wee pal on the left-but I think his desires are orientated further up.
mortonjag 2007-03-12 10:29:12
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 12 2007, 10:27 AM) [snapback]241506[/snapback]
Thanks for letting us know that, BTW is it not passed your bed time?

Wheesht-my carer's out for the messages.
mortonjag 2007-03-12 10:38:20
QUOTE(lush @ Mar 12 2007, 08:55 AM) [snapback]241474[/snapback]
Correct. LargsTon, i was not being patronising, i am a good bit older than the girl, so calling her "hen" has got to be better than what some of you "grown-ups!" were calling her. rolleyes.gif

It was not only patronising-it plunged to previously unfathomed depths of political incorrectness. I am sure the young lady, will be scarred for life by your unwarranted excesses.
mortonjag 2007-03-12 10:41:30
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 12 2007, 10:36 AM) [snapback]241509[/snapback]
Question?

Did ET appear in Episode 1 of Star Wars?

Elsie Tanner-I seem to remember it was Coronation St. but then I seem to remember an awful lot of things those days. sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-12 10:46:41
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Mar 12 2007, 10:40 AM) [snapback]241512[/snapback]
To answer your question, I have never tried it although it sound nice. Can you get it at any supermarket?

Yes, but only try it if you like that sort of stuff. I've been dieting, and using cottage cheese, and I discovered Quark's cheaper in Morrison's, and has less calories too. If you want to dress it up you can add some fruit, spring onions, or whatever you fancy. Brilliant with cherries, but they're bloody expensive.
mortonjag 2007-03-12 10:49:05
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 12 2007, 10:46 AM) [snapback]241516[/snapback]
I take it there will be a piss stop along the way!! rolleyes.gif

If you're stuck, I can arrange a catheter for you.
mortonjag 2007-03-12 10:51:20
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 12 2007, 10:48 AM) [snapback]241519[/snapback]
Yuck, you fancied Elsie Tanner, thats just down right boggin blink.gif

I didn't actually fancy her, but you know what they say about any port in a storm. wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-12 10:54:00
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 12 2007, 10:43 AM) [snapback]241515[/snapback]
The owners are probably why anyone watches it...honestly the state of most of them. They need help

Old sayings are often so true.

Pets gradually get to look like their owners!
mortonjag 2007-03-12 10:55:44
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 12 2007, 10:51 AM) [snapback]241524[/snapback]
For me??? Not needed for me, we'll be travelling in style on our new bus complete with space age bog, oh and a camera so the driver can watch

Wrinkled penis causes multiple pile up on M8.
mortonjag 2007-03-12 10:56:54
QUOTE(lush @ Mar 12 2007, 10:55 AM) [snapback]241530[/snapback]
I know. I called her "hen", instead of "hun", "scum" or told her to f*** off back to Ibrox. Shocking! wink.gif

wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-12 11:00:31
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 12 2007, 10:54 AM) [snapback]241529[/snapback]
"like Gourock pier during the Cowal games"? tongue.gif

Aye, a couple of hundred roll on and off every time she comes in.
mortonjag 2007-03-12 11:02:10
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 12 2007, 10:53 AM) [snapback]241527[/snapback]
I can see what's shes getting at by saying it...but she must be as thick as 2 short planks to see why people would take offence to something like that! She probably isn't racist...just stupid.

The two are not often mutually exclusive.
mortonjag 2007-03-12 11:03:36
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 12 2007, 10:59 AM) [snapback]241534[/snapback]
your just sick, sick I say!!

I have never denied it! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-12 12:25:13
QUOTE(The Bobby McMahon Fan Club @ Mar 12 2007, 11:21 AM) [snapback]241541[/snapback]
Talk to the hand cause the face aint listening.

BMFC listens with his face, speaks with his hand, and no doubt has less innocent purposes for his auditory meati. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-12 12:28:22
QUOTE(Frank Grimes @ Mar 12 2007, 12:14 PM) [snapback]241549[/snapback]
Would you girls break it up! dry.gif

f*** OFF GREASE SPOT

SHE STARTED IT. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-12 12:30:52
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 12 2007, 12:27 PM) [snapback]241558[/snapback]
Its only mid-day and your on the sauce!!! blink.gif

No time like the present-anyhow that specky c*nt's driven me to it. sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-12 12:32:20
QUOTE(lush @ Mar 12 2007, 12:30 PM) [snapback]241562[/snapback]
Its like you and Super Nanny all over again. dry.gif

I miss old soupy f*nny TBH-at least she didn't even pretend to be intelligent. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-12 12:34:34
QUOTE(princessTON @ Mar 12 2007, 12:31 PM) [snapback]241564[/snapback]
dry.gif

Sorry princess it's the c*nt bit that gets me, not the specs!
mortonjag 2007-03-12 12:35:45
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 12 2007, 12:32 PM) [snapback]241568[/snapback]
unlike yourself dry.gif

smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-12 12:38:57
QUOTE(princessTON @ Mar 12 2007, 12:28 PM) [snapback]241560[/snapback]
ive never tasted quark.........or quorn for that matter

What about quince? smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-12 12:42:04
QUOTE(lush @ Mar 12 2007, 12:23 PM) [snapback]241554[/snapback]
I was thinking that when i heard she had signed up for it. laugh.gif

Surprised they let her in. Thought she didn't have a leg to stand on.
mortonjag 2007-03-12 12:49:48
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 12 2007, 12:46 PM) [snapback]241578[/snapback]
they clarified it later, but you may have switched off....

Did they clarify what kind of water bottle it was? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-12 12:50:53
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Mar 12 2007, 12:47 PM) [snapback]241580[/snapback]
laugh.gif

If the audience start giving her abuse she could always 'Leg It' tongue.gif

That's a matter of a pinion.
mortonjag 2007-03-12 14:01:07
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 12 2007, 01:15 PM) [snapback]241594[/snapback]
Seems like the good doctor has just made a complete tit of himself.

What do you know about tits-eh Ratarsed one? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-12 14:03:31
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 12 2007, 01:28 PM) [snapback]241603[/snapback]
Why is that - is he no good at football match commentary? Does he have a brush over and sports jaikit worse than McPherson?

Who knows-he's certainly the greater of two humungous f*nnies.

There again, what would you know about f*nnies? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-12 14:07:25
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 12 2007, 01:43 PM) [snapback]241615[/snapback]
Quorn's suprisingly nice.

...and extremely nutritious too!
mortonjag 2007-03-12 14:14:26 ... and if she offers anybody a gammy, duck quick.
mortonjag 2007-03-12 14:20:29
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Mar 12 2007, 02:16 PM) [snapback]241647[/snapback]
Sean, going to ask you to leave hear now, you used "you pulling my leg" twice, can you not think of area parts of the body,muscle groups etc in this general area please.

Sean has apparently a gorgeous gastrocnemius, a striking soleus, and a calcaneus to die for, oh and a wrinkly willie.
mortonjag 2007-03-12 14:23:48
QUOTE(princessTON @ Mar 12 2007, 02:12 PM) [snapback]241642[/snapback]
im not a great fan of experimenting new foods, so i wont be trying quark, quorn or quince in the near future

Chicken? smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-12 14:29:51 Claimed she was perfectly content 'til she met 'at ars'ole.
mortonjag 2007-03-12 14:34:51
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 12 2007, 01:46 PM) [snapback]241620[/snapback]
I think that may have been what I was getting at tongue.gif

Such youthful depravity-six of the belt! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-12 14:36:27 Tendon to die out this thread.
mortonjag 2007-03-12 14:42:01
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Mar 12 2007, 12:55 PM) [snapback]241586[/snapback]
She'd be ideal in a THREE legged race laugh.gif

Some jealous c*nt would plantar.
mortonjag 2007-03-12 14:44:38
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 12 2007, 02:36 PM) [snapback]241662[/snapback]
There's a phrase that includes the words rope, enough, hang. Never been more appropriate. Away back to your drunken stupor.

Deflecting from my questions I notice. wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-12 15:27:19
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Mar 12 2007, 02:51 PM) [snapback]241674[/snapback]
no knee'd for that sort of language.

He's really just a sad little sole.
mortonjag 2007-03-12 15:33:11 Well formed jobbies tend to come out pointed leaving the arse relatively clean. They also prevent it from shutting with a bang. A mere wipe in the sitting position is all that is necessary.

Post Madras excrement is a totally different matter, and justifies all sorts of contorsions of the bahookie, AND the face, before a modicum of cleanliness and comfort is gained.



P.S. Caught between two stools on this one-couldn't vote.
mortonjag 2007-03-12 15:35:45
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Mar 12 2007, 03:32 PM) [snapback]241690[/snapback]
She’d be ideal if you had to change your tyre.
You could take her leg off and get her to use her stump to jack it up.
Then when fully jacked up you could jam her artificial limb under the car and use it as a gemmy.
Obviously once this was done and you were changing the tyre she could pass the time with a game of HOP scotch.

...and despite the puncture could still enjoy a spin.
mortonjag 2007-03-12 15:40:18
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 12 2007, 03:21 PM) [snapback]241685[/snapback]
Eh no. They just don't merit an answer. Since when did I have to answer to a wee jobby like you?

Don't bother if it embarrasses you, but if you do need help, this wee jobby will be at your beck and call! wub.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-12 15:47:54
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Mar 12 2007, 03:32 PM) [snapback]241690[/snapback]
She’d be ideal if you had to change your tyre.
You could take her leg off and get her to use her stump to jack it up.
Then when fully jacked up you could jam her artificial limb under the car and use it as a gemmy.
Obviously once this was done and you were changing the tyre she could pass the time with a game of HOP scotch.

You could also borrow her socket spanner.
mortonjag 2007-03-12 15:53:18
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Mar 12 2007, 03:32 PM) [snapback]241690[/snapback]
She’d be ideal if you had to change your tyre.
You could take her leg off and get her to use her stump to jack it up.
Then when fully jacked up you could jam her artificial limb under the car and use it as a gemmy.
Obviously once this was done and you were changing the tyre she could pass the time with a game of HOP scotch.

If she got a puncture she'd perch in the limbousine and call the AA.
mortonjag 2007-03-12 15:58:11
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 12 2007, 03:04 PM) [snapback]241677[/snapback]
What's he got this season, 12? Not too shabby from a 'fullback'

In his GMFC profile he's described as playing 'anywhere', though he's yet to start in goal.

Interestingly, out of our entire squad, we have only five players described as 'forwards'.
mortonjag 2007-03-13 06:33:17 Stella said 'My once stepmother' who staggered from crisis crisis in her disjointed marriage to my Dad will now have to stand on her own foot.
mortonjag 2007-03-13 06:38:52
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 12 2007, 05:14 PM) [snapback]241722[/snapback]
You're all weird

What do you do young sir, just change your undies when they get too brown? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-13 06:43:32
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 12 2007, 11:42 PM) [snapback]241907[/snapback]
I watched a documentary shown on channel 4 tonight about a jug eared loony who calls himself the Prince of Wales and/or the Duke of Cornwall and claims to be next in line for the 'Throne'. It seems he rakes in a bundle of millions from dodgy land and property deals without paying a penny in tax. Apparently he has dozens of houses and teams of minions who tend to his needs, like boiling his eggs and squeezing his toothpaste. Wherever he goes he doesn't have to pay, the adoring public forks out for his private jets, helicopters and trains. And at the same time he is lecturing others about how they should be socially responsible and care for the environment. He wants to have a say in government even though nobody elected him.

For myself, I think he should be thrown in jail but it seems that a lot of people like him. Some would even be happy to have him as King. laugh.gif

The monarchy is an anachronism, and Big Ears is a national embarrassment-I wish they would send him for a month's holiday in Ferguslie Park. After all he likes talking to animals.
mortonjag 2007-03-13 06:45:18
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 12 2007, 11:45 PM) [snapback]241908[/snapback]
No. That was the son of god.

...and itchy baws is his high priest.
mortonjag 2007-03-13 06:49:14
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 13 2007, 12:16 AM) [snapback]241911[/snapback]
A quack eats quark. So what?

Mr Edwards has been imbibing! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-13 06:54:27
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 12 2007, 04:45 PM) [snapback]241713[/snapback]
Do you deliberately try to come across as a complete oaf or does it just come naturally?

Erm...what's an oaf Sir?
mortonjag 2007-03-13 07:05:53 Interesting that the 'total confidence in our manager's ability' brigade has dwindled to 66%.

Still a convincing majority, but a definite swing. Some people, at least, seem able to apply logic to decisions.

I hope we win, but believe it's more likely to be a draw. Going on history though, we're as likely as not to flop again.

Blessed is the man who expecteth nothing, for he shall not be disappointed.
mortonjag 2007-03-13 07:14:34 It's now eleven years since those children were slaughtered. They say life goes on, but for the families devastated by that wanton evil, today will be extremely difficult to get through.
mortonjag 2007-03-13 07:55:07
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 13 2007, 07:27 AM) [snapback]241931[/snapback]
blink.gif Oh no he hasn't.
Another quirky quip from the quark eating quack. ?

biggrin.gif
I apologise-consider yourself highly honoured-my first and only favour of the day goes to my fellow early bird. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-13 07:58:42
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 13 2007, 12:38 AM) [snapback]241913[/snapback]
What's the difference between hedgehogs and flash motors?
Hedgehogs have pricks on the outside.

....and sit by the roadside lamenting their departed flatmates.
mortonjag 2007-03-13 08:41:01
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 13 2007, 08:21 AM) [snapback]241936[/snapback]
Anyone else spot the unconscious ironic humour in this sentence?....

I seen it immediately.
mortonjag 2007-03-13 08:46:12 I gave in and watched.

A young African girl is having a huge abscess drained from her leg. The procedure takes less than five minutes, so the risks from general anaesthesia are avoided.

She must have been in agony for days before the procedure, and no time afterwards she'll be as happy as a sandboy.
mortonjag 2007-03-13 08:51:10
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 13 2007, 08:29 AM) [snapback]241938[/snapback]
What we need more than ever is a strong defensive display. That guy Snodgrass is supposed to be useful (I think he scored against us for Livvy in the cup, the game in the hurricane). However if Livvy loaned him out, maybe he's not that good. We do need to watch Cramb though and if Ryan and Stuart aren't a bit bruised after the game there'll be questions asked!!

With Jamie in the middle and our guys all pretty fit, I reckon Bingham won't get a look in. He played against our reserves and although he was a class act, he's done. Looks like an Aids victim and surely a candidate for ugliest footballer ever, only woman he'd ever pull would be Peter Beardsley's missus. He reminds me of one of those distorted vegetables you used to see on That's Life.

Alibi, what we need more than ever is for our players to shoot at goal. Our final product relative to possession and getting to the penalty area is just dire. The best ever Ton side of our time had a mediocre defence, and we swept all before us.
mortonjag 2007-03-13 09:01:13
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 12 2007, 09:39 PM) [snapback]241850[/snapback]
Just watched Stevenson's goal - a screamer, great how he started and finished the move. Noticed Templeman's first touch - the words cement, couldnae, bag of, trap spring to mind.

The words arsehole, you, an, and are spring to mind. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-13 09:06:07
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 13 2007, 08:57 AM) [snapback]241943[/snapback]
jesus, a joyce quote.. how erudite. where am i?

Up your own arse as usual presumably.
What's erudite about quoting from a book?

The bookful blockhead, ignorantly read,
With loads of learned lumber in his head.

(Rape of the Lock-Alexander Pope)
mortonjag 2007-03-13 09:14:44 A hungry young semite named Wark
consumed twenty kilos of quark,
and lying there bloated
apparently quoted
'I'm Jewish and cannae eat pork'.
mortonjag 2007-03-13 09:24:50
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Mar 13 2007, 09:13 AM) [snapback]241949[/snapback]
Pessimist: One who, when he has the choice of two evils, chooses both.

C'mon MJ I dare you too at least admit to an ounce of optimism.

cool.gif ScotinBelgie

Scotty, for once I'm going to post seriously!

I'd describe myself as generally optimistic about life, but I've had to learn many things the hard way.

Since our renaissance under DDFR, my previously optimistic approach to Ton matches has been systematically destroyed, by a series of inexplicable and unpredicted flops, often coming just after a good patch.

As a result, I now approach every game with an open mind.

That's totally different from, for example, buying the 50/50 ticket-you know you've bugger all chance of winning, but it's perfectly normal to remain upbeat 'til the number's called out.

NOTHING would surprise me this Saturday-it could easily end up being our game of the season when we rattle in six to everybody's astonishment, but I'm afraid that if you don't take lessons from the past you'll inevitably be sorry more often than necessary.
mortonjag 2007-03-13 10:00:18 and now ye canny write 'f****y'.

What's next I wonder, a ladies' first name, and a perfectly acceptable word in our language-I'm sure Trick will agree.

Phuck, and kunt etc., ARE rude words-DREADFULLY rude when I come to think of it! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-13 10:18:37 Heart 0 - 2
Head 1 - 1
mortonjag 2007-03-13 10:21:21
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Mar 13 2007, 10:09 AM) [snapback]241962[/snapback]
Not quite admiting to an ounce of optimisim but close. tongue.gif

Don't get me wrong I'm not a unaware of our past and I know that it does place a weight on our shoulders. However the lesson I take from the past is that this season I'll take promotion first over everything else. Of course I would prefer to be more skillful in attack and see three or four put past the opposition goalie every week, and we have the team to do that. But at the end of the day, it's all about promotion. Last season we seemed to believe it was our destiny to go up, this year I feel that we are working for it. So it might not be pretty and it is still occasionally too unpredictable, but as you say yourself we will win promotion.

Next season when we are in the 1st or SPL2 or whatever, then we can relax and start playing a bit more football.

Une gramme peut etre?
mortonjag 2007-03-13 10:33:54 Well! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-13 10:36:38
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Mar 13 2007, 10:34 AM) [snapback]241971[/snapback]
I wrote the word T W A T the other day and it came up as t***.

Bring back Div’s board, the controls weren’t as strict laugh.gif

Just about to try dickhead! AMAZING-that's OK and T W A T isn't. Sc***horpe? I knew it-phuckin' atrocious! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-13 10:40:53
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Mar 13 2007, 10:38 AM) [snapback]241974[/snapback]
Oh s***e !!!

I just noticed you had this as a Poll Answer.

Here was me thinking I was being original blink.gif

Ach well-let's hear the model and wattage! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-13 10:42:23
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Mar 13 2007, 10:40 AM) [snapback]241976[/snapback]
That’s quite c***roversial tongue.gif

c***rol yoursel Sir!
mortonjag 2007-03-13 10:43:26
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Mar 13 2007, 10:39 AM) [snapback]241975[/snapback]
see thats sexist, your allowed to use male first names such as dick but not f****y...

wait till my great aunt f****y heres about this, shes a f***ing badass c*** of a woman who f***ing right into her womans rights s***

Fann*y?
or fann.y
fan.ny-I think that's most realistic!
We shall beat those kuntz
mortonjag 2007-03-13 10:48:36
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Mar 13 2007, 10:45 AM) [snapback]241980[/snapback]
Morphy Richards but my mum has it so I don’t know the Wattage.

Yes Yes, she still does everything for me including drying my wee member after use tongue.gif

Getting your Willie blown by your Mummy's against the law.

Anyhow must dash. Back in a couple of shakes!
mortonjag 2007-03-13 11:25:01
QUOTE(MIFTHEBINO @ Mar 13 2007, 11:20 AM) [snapback]241993[/snapback]
Stirling 2v0 Morton

Att: 2701

Your posts are generally sensible-do you really believe that enough to put it here in front of our upbeat posters?

Incidentally, we'll probably bring 1200 - 1500 fans, as we always attract the drifters to those matches.
mortonjag 2007-03-13 11:29:51 Bryan-I still can't write f****y!

i.e. FAN.NY!
mortonjag 2007-03-13 11:31:28
QUOTE(lush @ Mar 13 2007, 11:27 AM) [snapback]241996[/snapback]
Not in paisley. wink.gif

....because nobody's quite sure who his Mummy is?
mortonjag 2007-03-13 11:34:41
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Mar 13 2007, 10:49 AM) [snapback]241982[/snapback]
anyone ells think the tone of this bored is going down hill fast wink.gif

No question about how your wee man shakes himself dry!
mortonjag 2007-03-13 11:44:49
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Mar 13 2007, 11:39 AM) [snapback]242005[/snapback]
Yep I would agree. laugh.gif

Go away-we're having a serious survey about male genital cleanliness. If you're not interested in clean male genitals, you're not the girl we took you for! huh.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-13 11:46:17
QUOTE(lush @ Mar 13 2007, 11:41 AM) [snapback]242008[/snapback]
How do they dry their own then? unsure.gif

Siamese twins take shots about. They wrote a book about it called 'Oor Wullie'.
mortonjag 2007-03-13 11:51:40
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 13 2007, 11:47 AM) [snapback]242016[/snapback]
....still EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2007-03-13 11:53:52
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Mar 13 2007, 11:51 AM) [snapback]242020[/snapback]
F@nny

.... excellent...and tw@t, but how about phuck and kunt? blink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-13 11:55:36
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Mar 13 2007, 11:50 AM) [snapback]242018[/snapback]
Drip dry under the kilt. smile.gif

Ok for brogues I suppose, but not for Hush Puppies.
mortonjag 2007-03-13 12:51:42
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Mar 13 2007, 11:57 AM) [snapback]242024[/snapback]
FVCK CVNT

Roman Style unsure.gif

FVCKIN' SVPERB!
mortonjag 2007-03-13 12:55:52
QUOTE(Loveless @ Mar 13 2007, 12:49 PM) [snapback]242036[/snapback]
Who would be offended other than gays?

How many homos actually go to football matches?

Plenty I would imagine, and I guarantee they'd all just laugh at CH being called a useless wee fat ****, which is really a compliment when you think about it. wink.gif
FFS 'pufe' then.
mortonjag 2007-03-13 12:59:22
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Mar 13 2007, 12:47 PM) [snapback]242035[/snapback]
Aye but who foots the bill?

maybe they'll form a club.
mortonjag 2007-03-13 13:03:32 ='Mar 13 2007, 12:58 PM' post='242040']
So does that mean that you cant say F@NNY PACK as they would say in the states insteed o bloody bum bag, ooopppss or is that just as frowned upon? you cannae call a down and out a BUM huh.gif still can you? ohmy.gif
[/quote]

Best to say BVM I'd guess
mortonjag 2007-03-13 13:11:09
QUOTE(MIFTHEBINO @ Mar 13 2007, 11:59 AM) [snapback]242026[/snapback]
Of course and why not? In general there hasnt been much between both teams this season IMO and we have home advantage.Fair enough, you guys will probably have more fans than us, but the pitch we play on suits our style of play. We are on a good run were we have got 12 points from Brechin, Cowdenbeath and Raith away from home and full points from a derby game at home. We need the win more than you and althoguh I think we will win this game, I think you will win the league-JUST.

If you guys bring 1500, then if the weather isnt raining I reckon we could have a good 1200+ home fans. I do think we will need one of the terracings for overspill of home fans as well (home stand holds about 1300, but you will get your usuall 100 odd freebies who wont count to the attendance!!)

Ah but that is not Inverclyde logic!

Don't forget we're top of the league, we're full time, and...erm... well... TBH we've just been toying with the opposition to make the run-in more interesting. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-13 13:13:31
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Mar 13 2007, 01:04 PM) [snapback]242046[/snapback]
laugh.gif and they will have to toe the line or get booted oot.

.. might well end up with only one member.
mortonjag 2007-03-13 13:16:40
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 13 2007, 01:06 PM) [snapback]242047[/snapback]
That's not the point, Loveless. It's the continual attempts to censor thought, to make evryone conform to a PC agenda. To say that it's illegal to sing "we hate Jimmy Hill, he's a ****, he's a ****" is just ludicrous nonsense. I'm sure JH himself proably takes it as a compliment, a sort of mocking endearment really. No-on e actually hates him, it's meant to be funny! Too many people in power have no sense of humour. And why offer special protection to the sensibilities of one small group of attention seekers when the police haven't made the slightest attempt to get rid of the OF singing and chanting?

As someone siad, they're missing the point. Football chants are MEANT to be insulting.

Better not be Paisleyist at the next Renfrewshire derby...

And finally: why would a homosexual policeman think it was offensive to call someone a homosexual? Why is there such a body as the Association of Gay Police Officers? Or the Association of Black Police Officers? Try setting up an association of heterosexual white police officers and your feet wouldn't touch the ground. Time the majority of the population were given some consideration.

Precisely-next it'll be the adjectives-fat-wee-baldy etc. Come to think of it Hardie is a wee fat baldy cvnt!....and probably a jobby jammer to boot.
mortonjag 2007-03-13 14:14:19
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Mar 13 2007, 01:17 PM) [snapback]242052[/snapback]
Which means as the Title says.....
She'll Be Out On A Limb If It Does tongue.gif

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-13 14:23:07
QUOTE(Loveless @ Mar 13 2007, 01:21 PM) [snapback]242053[/snapback]
I agree with you, that was my point.

The gay stuff shouldn't be banned, infact gay people would probably hate it if it was banned, they need something to moan about, and something to make them feel special.

And like I said, how many gays actually go to football matches, apart from to stare at other men.

They probably prefer sports like knitting.

Maybe you're just taking the piss, Loveless, but it's that last type of comment that 'Gays' object to rather than good natured 'P00F' chants at a football match.

There are plenty of them in football, and not just as spectators.
mortonjag 2007-03-14 06:48:41
QUOTE(Mark_Pickering @ Mar 13 2007, 08:28 PM) [snapback]242163[/snapback]
You're all out of order and not funny.
Paul Mccartney is dead anyway. Heather Mills deserves the cash as much as that doppleganger fcuk does!

And a good morning to you too Heather, now 'Hop it' and stop impersonating one of our fans. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-14 06:55:54
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 13 2007, 06:05 PM) [snapback]242124[/snapback]
There's a building through here on North Bridge where you can get a 'free personality test'....then you realise the sign on the door is for the L. Ron Hubbard Institute. I ran and I ran and I ran......

Unf*ckingbelievable-full marks to those b*****ds for determination and persistence.

My (then) girlfriend and I went through to Edinburgh for a drive one day in the early seventies, and, yes, at (I assume) that same building on N. Bridge St., we were asked to do the personality test.

Mortonjag was even more wet behind the ears then, and was bombarded with literature, and propoganda for about five years, before they finally gave up.
mortonjag 2007-03-14 07:02:41
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Mar 13 2007, 08:17 PM) [snapback]242160[/snapback]
Listening to those Kelvinside accents mumbling pish in that Youtube clip only remind me why I hate Glasgows 'Trendy' West End.

You 'hate' Glasgow's trendy West End, Arky, because for some reason you still haven't got that huge ideological lefty chip off your shoulder.

I've watched your posts, and your consistency amazes me-anything and everything that smacks of any kind of success, culture, or even legitimately gained wealth is torn to shreds.

Has it never penetrated your thick skull, for example, that the large majority of very wealthy Scots come from humble backgrounds.

BTW I HATE the 'West End' too, but mainly because it's full of pretentious posers, most of whom don't actually live there.
mortonjag 2007-03-14 07:12:45
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 14 2007, 12:47 AM) [snapback]242211[/snapback]
Is this the post where Mortonjake describes himself?

In the (almost) words of Walter Smith, I shall attempt to please you, ratarsed one.

Immortal, invisible, Jag only wise.
In light inaccessible hid from your eyes.
Most blessed, most glorious, the ancient of days-
Almighty, victorious, my great name you praise.

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mortonjag 2007-03-14 07:16:47
QUOTE(shedhead @ Mar 13 2007, 06:24 PM) [snapback]242130[/snapback]
Mortonjag , you say there are plenty of gays around . I remember learning in school that it was 1 in 10. I don't believe that for a minute , I don't think I know any that aren't on tv .

The whole things just thought control , liberal facism if you will . You can't say anything about gays . You have to accept that they are going to raise children . You have to accept schools are being forced to teach that homosexual relationships are just as good as hetrosexual ones . It's the tail wagging the dog .

I agree in principle, but the same can be said of ethnic minorities-it's a symptom of our sick namby pamby society, rather than a 'Gay' take over.
mortonjag 2007-03-14 07:19:42
QUOTE(Loveless @ Mar 14 2007, 12:49 AM) [snapback]242212[/snapback]
Exactly. Anyone man who likes taking another man up the arse is abnormal.

Sorry if my opinion offends anyone.

Do you mean 'abnormal', or in the minority'?- I'd suggest they're in the minority and for them, the behaviour of the majority is abnormal.
mortonjag 2007-03-14 07:23:18
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 14 2007, 01:29 AM) [snapback]242222[/snapback]
It always was illegal, it's called breaching the peace. It's just considered commonplace to shout such terms of endearment at football matches and is therefore overlooked by the polis. Shout that to the man's face in the street within earshot of a plod and there might be a different outcome.

And when the wee, fat, baldy p***k arrives to give evidence in court wearing his ref's uniform and a big grin, you're immediately admonished. dry.gif

FFS-you can't even write PR1CK now-this is getting out of hand.
mortonjag 2007-03-14 07:27:00
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 14 2007, 07:22 AM) [snapback]242236[/snapback]
I'm not too keen on poofs but as long as they keep themselves to themselves and dont try anything on me then it's not too bad.

I like lesbians though.

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mortonjag 2007-03-14 07:29:27
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 13 2007, 07:53 PM) [snapback]242149[/snapback]
Ullysses is a hard slog. Finnegans did in large numbers of my brain cells.

Dubliners though, what a fine set of short stories.

Oh indeed Sir, erudition at its most erudite.
mortonjag 2007-03-14 07:30:45
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 14 2007, 01:12 AM) [snapback]242218[/snapback]
Tell us where exactly is that Pub, Mr McB ? biggrin.gif

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mortonjag 2007-03-14 07:36:22
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 13 2007, 08:55 PM) [snapback]242170[/snapback]
That's a great example of why forums like this are sometimes pathetic. Rather than admit that your post was nonsense you attack someone you've probably never met. See earlier post about 'lazy', 'aggressive', 'hateful' and 'spiteful'.
The words 'fight' and 'empty house' spring to mind.

....and man, grown, shoulder, up, with, on, and chip.

Narky Arky-the unthinking man's iconoclast.
mortonjag 2007-03-14 08:45:38 I suspect the whole thing's been blown out of proportion. I'll guarantee that if the players get the kind of vocal support I expect this weekend, the fans will get plenty of acknowledgement and appreciation if they score.

TBH, I don't think it's a reaction to previous criticism at Scapa, so much as a continuation of the muted atmosphere generated by the fans during matches.
mortonjag 2007-03-14 08:59:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 14 2007, 08:44 AM) [snapback]242247[/snapback]
I reckon the same. Unless there is some kind of camp (excuse the pun tongue.gif) where they all live. I know more than 30 people yet I only know 3 who are openly gay (male love or women love). As far as I am aware, no one from my class in high school of 33 is gay.

Wonder where this 1:10 came from.

You can't have it both ways (come to think of it that's supposed to be about one in twenty), but what I mean is that it's plain daft to bleat about a 'Gay takeover' on one hand, and argue that they are in a very small minority on the other.

Despite our so called liberal society, a large section of the Gay community deliberately and anonymously integrates with the rest for the simple reason that homosexuality IS still considered abnormal by most.
mortonjag 2007-03-14 10:46:12
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 14 2007, 09:12 AM) [snapback]242250[/snapback]
Actually the 1 in 10 is a fiction. There have been scientific studies done (I think in the USA) and the estimates are between 2% and 4%, with the most accurate assessment being 2.6%. The homosexual lobby always uses the 10% figure to make it seem more prevalent than it actually is for PR reasons.

It is self-evident that it's wrong to persecute anyone just because they're homosexual. I understand from a TV programme by Robert Winston a couple of years ago that the cause of male homosexuality is a deficiency of testoserone in the embryo at a critical stage of development - the time when the development of the sex organs occurs I think. Male embryos need a surge of testosterone to form properly, and if that doesn't happen, they develop as boys but with a female-orientated brain. I assume there is a reverse situation leading to lesbianism, and a similar process causes homosexuality in some species of animals. Homosexuality is therefore a type of birth defect, in the same was as spina bifida or a cleft palate. It could in fact be prevented by hormone treatment or vaccination at the right time in pregnancy. It follows therefore that homosexuals do not choose to adopt a lifestyle as some would put it, but are born that way. Try telling that to some of the more self-obsessed ones, and they get very angry indeed.

It is interesting to note that, again in the USA, scientists have developed a method to "cure" homosexuality using hormone patches. However, homosexual groups have demanded an end to this research and development, calling it "homophobic". Martina Navratilova was one of the most vociferous objectors. I suppose having your sexual orientation shown to be due to a birth defect is more than some of these people can cope with, especially when a lot of them are attention seeking (which is why so many are in TV and the media).

Regarding the prevalence of homosexuals on TV, there are a lot of homosexuals who are involved in the entertainment business and they have ensured that virtually every programme, soap opera etc now has at least one homosexual character, and they are becoming bolder in what they portray. Many openly homosexual people are in senior political positions (Mandelson, Chris Smith, Ben Bradshaw for just 3 examples) and there are others about whom there have been stories circulating (Blair, Brown), so the pushing of a homosexual agenda way beyond the importance indicated by the numbers involved should be no surprise. And if anyone objects or isn't enthusiastic enough, they're accused of "homophobia" or even being a repressed homosexual themselves. Tolerant the gay lobby is not.

Anyway, to precis, it isn't something to persecute people for, because they didn't choose to be that way. By the same token, it isn't "normal", i.e. it is not a state that is the norm. It is "natural" i.e. it occurs in nature, just as siamese twins do. IMHO trying to legislate will just get people's backs up (oooer missus!)

Good post Alibi.

One or two comments.

Winston, whom I can't abide, has a vested interest in ignoring the 'nurture' element of any debate, and I am convinced that homosexuality is multifactorial in origin. There are plenty of quality studies linking it to environmental pressures, and of course institutional homosexuality is common where the other sex is unavailable.

There is a tribe in papua, New Guinea, where teenage boys indulge in ritual homosexuality, reverting to heterosexual behaviour on reaching adulthood, for example.

Although I agree with your perception of 'normality', as being that which is commonplace, or generally accepted, I would debate that being 'normal' is a virtue per se. It is, I believe, regarded as 'normal' to watch 'Soaps'!
mortonjag 2007-03-14 11:29:05
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 14 2007, 11:09 AM) [snapback]242270[/snapback]
indeed. and if you ever get into an argument with a yank over how to pronounce it (well you never know), you can tell him that it came from mick's quote, and although it was a play on the word 'quart', joyce clearly meant it to rhyme with 'mark'. although gell-mann still pronounces it 'quork', he claims to recognise the merit in the alternative.

so there

....Although the cheese, the original subject of the thread, is normally prounounced 'kwark', but may be pronounced 'kwork', and Joyce's neologism may well have rhymed with 'mark' but is normally pronounced 'kwork', though 'kwark' is also accetable.

(From Chambers' dictionary).
mortonjag 2007-03-14 11:54:45
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 14 2007, 09:24 AM) [snapback]242251[/snapback]
This is the crux of the matter. Nobody makes you read it. If it annoys you so much then do something positive about it rather than bellyaching under a crap pseudonym.

Edit to ad: Unlike me, who bellyaches under a quality pseudonym. wink.gif

....and extremely mysterious one too. Going to let us into the secret, or has it just got to do with the weather?
mortonjag 2007-03-15 06:14:07
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Mar 14 2007, 03:32 PM) [snapback]242342[/snapback]
You know something we don't Mr Jag??

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mortonjag 2007-03-15 06:17:25
QUOTE(1insert_player_here @ Mar 14 2007, 07:38 PM) [snapback]242429[/snapback]
Cause you're a fanny wink.gif

fanny

Thanx!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-15 06:36:32
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Mar 14 2007, 11:57 PM) [snapback]242501[/snapback]
Wahahahaha!!! Im a lefty. I'll bet I voted for George Galloway, and have a crush on Rosie Kane too. This time last year I was a cert to invade Poland.

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When has culture ever been discussed on this messageboard??

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Oh dear, i stand corrected guvnor. I should doth my cloth cap to them everytime i hear a 'self made man' makes someone redundant to save a percentage of a fraction of a margin.
I'll bet you have Partick Thistle supporting mates called Farquhar and Findlay, both solicitors from Dowanhill. They'll share a one bedroom flat, support Partick Thistle and have a Golden Retriever wink.gif . You probably told them that Morton supporters are a wonderful bunch whom everyone loves, just like the Possil Thistle supporters, but then they stumble across this messageboard and a c*** like me, and now your pissed.
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one thing to say.....
GERITUPYEE

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Perfect confirmation of my post I'd say Narky one. though I should clearly have said what I really intended-'Commy'.

There is plenty of varied discussion on the board, but you clearly wouldn't recognise culture if you met it in your alphabet soup.

You couldn't resist a pathetic side swipe at my observation that many working class guys DO make it to the top-wanting it both ways is typical of your muddle headed ideology.

The 'Farquhars and Findlays' of Dowanhill are also a dying breed. Even the crusty old legal profession is now composed mainly of ordinary folk who were able to take advantage of our education system.It's really time for you to grow up.


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mortonjag 2007-03-15 06:39:12
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 15 2007, 12:23 AM) [snapback]242507[/snapback]
So what's wrong with that ? laugh.gif

Nothing at all if he's at the Madam! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-15 06:42:59
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 15 2007, 12:46 AM) [snapback]242511[/snapback]
There you go again with your 'unthinking' iconoclasms. You don't like Allison Street ? Just as well that I've got plans to rejuvenate it. Come back in a couple of years and you won't believe the transformation... bijou antique shops, cafe-bars, bistros and shops selling lefty books will have replaced the grot grocers and horror meat shops. It'll be just the 'scene' for Mentaljag and his boulevardier chums, Farqhuar and Findlay.
You might just prefer the old place though. biggrin.gif

I look forward to that with some relish Mr Edwards, but PLEASE leave the nice smell of curry on a hot day! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-15 06:51:29
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 14 2007, 01:41 PM) [snapback]242307[/snapback]
from what i remember of trainspotting, a major part of the book is short stories incidental to the plot, such as it is. those wee vignettes could easily be the anecdotes he's heard.

anyway, i've read bits of his stuff after trainspotting, and it was just atrocious.

as for what he tells people he does for a living, i used to be a commercial diver, but i don't tell people that's my current job. why would i? i'd be lying to impress people with a weird sort of inverse snobbery.

No, you'd just be lying.
mortonjag 2007-03-15 06:54:25
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 15 2007, 06:50 AM) [snapback]242525[/snapback]
once again mortonfanny pays more attention to the voices in his head than anything anyone actually writes.

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...voices in the head indeed!
mortonjag 2007-03-15 06:57:03
QUOTE(edd @ Mar 15 2007, 01:17 AM) [snapback]242514[/snapback]
i know n1gger's a particularly bad word, that's why i used it to demonstrate my point though i would never use it myself.

but what's next? a ban on all insults relating to one's colour of hair ("ginger hair is unacceptable", the stereotype that blondes are stupid etc.)? many a time i've heard someone shout "ref, get your hair out your eyes" to a bald referee - is that to be banned in case it offends a bald fan? "who ate all the pies?" - what if that offends some overweight fans? can we call someone a mongo or retard or does that insult mentally handicapped people? or can we call someone a cripple or does that offend physically handicapped people?

i don't think it's possible to legislate about individuals insulting other individuals - if it's inciting a riot then action should be taken, obviously, or in the case of sectarian abuse the clubs (ie. the OF) should do something about it themselves, but there is really nothing wrong with singing "we hate jimmy hill, he's a ****, he's a ****" and i'm sure most gay people would not be offended if they heard that ... seriously, how can anyone not enjoy that chant?

....and unenforceable laws are just that. Who ever gets charged with dropping litter...and if they did Narky Arky would be heading the protest march to save jobs in the 'Clenny'.
mortonjag 2007-03-15 07:02:41
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 14 2007, 09:00 PM) [snapback]242454[/snapback]
Ask Robert the Bruce.

Is he no' deid?
I shall investigate!-- alternative folklore?
mortonjag 2007-03-15 07:15:31
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 14 2007, 09:23 PM) [snapback]242455[/snapback]
I went to my first game when i was 6 and i dont recall learning any swear words as a direct result of a Morton game, not till recently anyway smile.gif

Did Morton fans swear in the 70s???????????

One of my earliest Scapa memories is of being in the unsegregated crowd on the WDE terracing for a game against the Huns.

I was quite used to the usual Ton chants and obscenities, but it was my first exposure to the OF fans.

Etched in my mind is the memory of a couple of wee guys with, I presume, their Dad. They were maybe eight and ten years of age, and were belting out all the anti Fenian stuff with gusto.

Very little gets to me now, but at the time I thought it was very sad.
mortonjag 2007-03-15 08:50:05
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 15 2007, 07:30 AM) [snapback]242531[/snapback]
Three of the guys I mentioned were proddies, although I think Wilde converted to catholicism on his deathbed. I know what you mean though and agree that the theory is a load of s***e. Also I think you're the first I've heard that shares my opinion of Welsh. Most people I know think the sun shines out his arse.

I've met many winsome Welsh people, but in general I find them a bit insular, and in the North it's taken to extremes. I was talking about this to a 'Taffy' recently, and he claims there are three different Wales's-the North, the cosmopolitan South, and 'the rest'.

I guess we always generalise when we think about others.
mortonjag 2007-03-15 08:52:54
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Mar 15 2007, 12:14 AM) [snapback]242506[/snapback]
I had a large abcess on my upper thigh after I returned from a 10 hr flight to Mexico.

I was flapping as I thought it was DVT at first and I was headed for death's door.

Mine burst unexpectedly one night when I was lying in bed and the same brown, stinking pus seen in that clip spurted all over the other half as she was lying with her back to my front.

The smell was vile but the look on her face was worth it.

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.... and if anybody mentions a pussy smell, they're talking about cats! wink.gif

The noun 'pus' has no adjective.

BTW, try typing that word-now we're not even allowed pet names for cats on this ridiculous server. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-15 09:23:05
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 15 2007, 09:06 AM) [snapback]242537[/snapback]
I just watched the highlights of the Morton v Kilmarnock cup tie again there and the amount of confidence it restored to me in respect of Saturdays game against Stirling was amazing. Maybe the players should watch the highlights on the bus on the way to Forthbank on Saturday, this will remind then (if they need reminding) of how good a team they actually are. I would also add it might not be a bad idea for supporters buses to show it as well to remind a lot of our fans of what we are capable of when the support get right behind the team.

C'mon Morton, we can put this league to bed this weekend.

I agree-I think the heads still go down too often. Maybe JM should just tell them to go out and enjoy themselves doing what they're best at.

Unfortunately I suspect it'll be high pressure stuff as usual, but let's hope they turn it on.
mortonjag 2007-03-15 09:24:53
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 15 2007, 09:08 AM) [snapback]242538[/snapback]
Pardon ? I was referring to Irvine Welsh, not the Welsh.

They're all Welsh to me DE! wink.gif

...and 'Trainspotting' certainly did more than just entertain.
mortonjag 2007-03-15 09:29:44 Of the total participants, 65% discussed their bums, while a mere 34% divulged the hygeine of their most prized possessions.

Many conclusions can be drawn from this, and they will probably all be wrong.
mortonjag 2007-03-15 09:31:23
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 15 2007, 09:26 AM) [snapback]242543[/snapback]
Your a doom and gloom merchant.

FFS this was meant to be a positive thread..

Since when was realism 'doom and gloom'?
mortonjag 2007-03-15 09:45:28 ....and a happy birthday to any born on the anniversary of Caesar's death.
mortonjag 2007-03-15 09:50:41
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 15 2007, 09:45 AM) [snapback]242548[/snapback]
since when was doom and gloom, 'realism?

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Only since you incorrectly equated them.
mortonjag 2007-03-15 09:51:08
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Mar 15 2007, 09:47 AM) [snapback]242549[/snapback]
Nice one Sean! rolleyes.gif

No original thoughts today, itchy baws?
mortonjag 2007-03-15 10:06:43
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 15 2007, 09:56 AM) [snapback]242554[/snapback]
Look at who's talking...

Your the same day in day out, week in week out. infact when have you ever posted anything positive..

YAWN!!!!!!!

Didn't realise you and itchy baws are one and the same-now there's an original thought.

Get to f*ck both of you-now there's a positive one. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-15 10:18:24
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 15 2007, 10:07 AM) [snapback]242561[/snapback]
I think once he told us he'd be going on a long holiday. laugh.gif

Very funny DE! mad.gif

I don't at all mind taking pelters for criticising JM, and as I've said, I'll give him credit if and when it's due, but I'm surprised at a man of your purported intelligence buying into this crap.

Why don't you go back and read my posts? There's PLENTY of positivity if you just care to acknowledge it. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-15 10:22:37
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 15 2007, 10:17 AM) [snapback]242566[/snapback]
Who of course wasn't born by Caesarean section.... rolleyes.gif

...unlike MacDuff.
mortonjag 2007-03-15 11:16:57
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 15 2007, 10:29 AM) [snapback]242573[/snapback]
Yir post was that s***e I felt I had to reply..

BTW I thought it was a great post Midtons!!

Think we'll play it on teh bus on Saturday.

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mortonjag 2007-03-15 11:25:40
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 15 2007, 11:05 AM) [snapback]242582[/snapback]
WOW!!
MortonJag highjacks positive post with "Doom and Gloom post" Shocker!!

Manchesterton, read back on this thread (great post Midtons) and the only personal attacks and insults are coming from Mortonjag.

Personal attacks and insults-explain yourself Sir, or are you just a bit squeamish.

As usual, even though I stated that I AGREED with the original post, and endorsed the idea that the boys should be able to relax instead of feeling pressured, the ONLY thing the others home in on is my perfectly legitimate comment, that I think it's unlikely.

NO, I'll never be a 'happy clappy', and go with the flow. I'd prefer to look objectively and comment accordingly, and that's what manchesterton's on about.
mortonjag 2007-03-15 11:32:50
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 15 2007, 11:20 AM) [snapback]242590[/snapback]
Yes hopefully to the moon. It's the only place I can think of without internet access.

That and your anus I'd guess.
mortonjag 2007-03-15 11:38:24 Is RAIN--------BUT-----

I have never been so absolutely, positively, definitely, and unreservedly certain that the sun will be splitting the pavements, and have this uncontrollably recurrent thought that the Ton will win, and everbody will be happy and jolly. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-15 12:11:56
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 15 2007, 11:46 AM) [snapback]242599[/snapback]
Objectively? That's a good one. Everything through your doom and gloom "I hate McInally" specs. In response to Manchesterton who must be Mortonjag's only pal, perhaps he can understand why everyone think's Mortonjag's a complete tit if he were to read the daily posting of patronising and self appreciative comments. As far as I can make out it's not "certain" posters that think he's a tit, it's most folk on here.

I wasn't actually speaking to you ratarse, but as usual, you think everyone shares your opinions and feel obliged to put in your tuppenceworth.

For the record, I DO understand the meaning of objectivity, though you clearly haven't a 'scooby'.

All you've done is wheel out the usual lies about my 'HATING' JM, despite the fact that I have no personal issue with a man whom I don't know, and chosen to ignore, or not see any positivity in any of my posts-there has been plenty, and IT has often been rubbished too.

As I've said before, I only assume a 'patronising and self appreciative' cloak for clots like you who've got a bee in their bunnets about somebody they don't know.

It's refreshing that manchesterton is willing to see things differently-I've no idea who he is-but HE clearly has some intelligence and perception.
mortonjag 2007-03-15 12:20:32
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 15 2007, 11:49 AM) [snapback]242601[/snapback]
If you'd like people to be nicer to your friend maybe you could justify this post.
Your new friend is so clever and witty isn't he?

And a damned sight more than you I'd imagine. I always call Mabawsa 'itchy baws', which is a term of endearment.
mortonjag 2007-03-15 12:26:49
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 15 2007, 12:09 PM) [snapback]242614[/snapback]
i don't understand... you think mortonjag gets a rough deal on here for being negative, but you want this forum to be an extension of the terraces in our support of the team?

i can't stand mortonjag's online persona, but i do agree with him that this is the place for us to talk about morton. which includes criticism. this board would be a pretty boring place if it just consisted of people shouting mon the ton again and again. the place for vocal support is at the football. the vast majority of the people on here who voice their - legitimate - concerns for the club will give 100% support on a saturday afternoon.

this is our messageboard, not a place for the players to come when they need to feel loved.

anyway, very few of the personal attacks on here are personal, most of it is just banter. like at the footie, you know?

...and therein lies the nub of the whole matter.

You guys don't know the real me-I thoroughly enjoy this exercise for what it is-a wee Ton forum where anything goes, but I have no personal issues with any of you.

I fully intend to retain my 'on line persona'-it obviously adds some stimulation to your days-even if it's only by indiscriminately ripping to shreds anything and everything I post.
mortonjag 2007-03-15 12:30:12
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 15 2007, 12:00 PM) [snapback]242609[/snapback]
Midton, it's a great idea and all the buses should be showing some Morton classics enroute to what will hopefully be another to add to the collection. The team should watch the Killie game for self belief as they need to be fired up too.

As for Manchesterton, Mr Mortonjag pretty much leads the way with the insults and sweary word if we're all going to be so sensitive about it all. No-one can post anything without him telling us he's an expert on just about everthing and how s***e Morton are supposed to be.

I don't profess to be an expert on EVERYTHING ratarse-just most things-oh and I return insults and sweary words-I do not instigate denigration and profanity for their own sake.
mortonjag 2007-03-15 12:33:12
QUOTE(MIFTHEBINO @ Mar 15 2007, 12:18 PM) [snapback]242618[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2007-03-15 12:41:48
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 15 2007, 12:31 PM) [snapback]242624[/snapback]
I would have thought that such a clever chap as you think you are would have
A) realised that the offensive remark was not "itchy baws" but "Get to f*ck both of you"
'B) not had to retort to name calling and guttural language to get your point across.

I'm disappointed Manchest sorry Mortonjag.

In desperation RH I do occasionally let my normally impeccable standards drop-'When in Rome', as they say!

Such a clever chap as I'm told I think I am might ask-'what is this guttural language of which you speak'?

I'm no singer, but any attempts are normally in tenor, and not base. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-15 12:45:08
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 15 2007, 11:52 AM) [snapback]242603[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2007-03-15 12:50:47 I am no expert on those matters-in fact I doubt if I'm entitled to an opinion. Best not to question those in charge of anything I'd imagine.
mortonjag 2007-03-15 12:53:21
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Mar 15 2007, 12:48 PM) [snapback]242632[/snapback]
Well MJ, if its peein it doon, we should hump them biggrin.gif Remember the Alloa game at scappa a few weeks back? not much happened then it poured like fek knows what, then we scored.......and won.....

Deary me Darth, looks like even my attempts at positivity have come to an untimely end! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-15 12:58:15
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Mar 15 2007, 12:55 PM) [snapback]242637[/snapback]
Jeeso, what happened to the original topic mellow.gif

Well AT, I just happened to post an opinion in which I applauded the post, but dared to say I had some apprehension about the game-you know the rest-it's always the same! wacko.gif wacko.gif wub.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-15 13:03:02 I'm certain Spoonsy will be with us for at least one more season, if I may be permitted to say so. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-15 13:09:27 I spotted David McGregor in Dunoon this week.

He didn't seem to know who I was...what's the world coming to I ask myself? dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-15 13:12:33
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Mar 15 2007, 01:04 PM) [snapback]242643[/snapback]
Ach we will win 4-1 anyway wink.gif

FFS man, SURELY you mean 4-0-all this negativity's doin' ma heid in. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-15 13:18:52
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 15 2007, 01:11 PM) [snapback]242647[/snapback]
quote name='mortonjag' date='Mar 15 2007, 08:30 AM' post='242623']
I don't profess to be an expert on EVERYTHING ratarse-just most things-oh and I return insults and sweary words- I do not instigate denigration and profanity for their own sake.
Oh really?

Funny, I'm sure I remember a whole thread or two started by you and dedicated entirely to profanities.

Good try Mortonjoke.

What happened to yer wee link ratarse-did it break?

Read my threads in context if that's not impossible. I do not denigrate or swear at other posters gratuitously. My provocative responses are to those who do indulge in that sort of behaviour, presumably because they've little wit of their own.

On 'General nonsense' I am often a very naughty boy-sorry if that offends you but it seems to be 'a la mode'.

Now 'Off you pop'. blink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-15 14:08:12
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 15 2007, 01:26 PM) [snapback]242654[/snapback]
Thats a lie.

That's an opinion.
mortonjag 2007-03-15 14:11:06
QUOTE(Jackie @ Mar 15 2007, 02:03 PM) [snapback]242662[/snapback]
Thought this thread was about the chewing gum

'mastication for the nation'

laugh.gif Gumbroil.
mortonjag 2007-03-15 14:14:33
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Mar 15 2007, 01:09 PM) [snapback]242646[/snapback]
I spotted David McGregor in Dunoon this week.

He didn't seem to know who I was...what's the world coming to I ask myself? dry.gif

FFS, a WHOLE hour, and nobody's taken the hump-I've obviously been doing something wrong.

I'm DOUBLY POSITIVE I saw Alex Williams in Cumbernauld once-he was smiling. HE didn't seem to know who I was either. unsure.gif...
mortonjag 2007-03-15 14:22:37
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 15 2007, 02:17 PM) [snapback]242669[/snapback]
am i reading this right? you want morton fc to donate a signed shirt and then hold a raffle for it amongst the morton support on saturday... so stirling albion can buy a feckin pie oven?

hilarious!

I don't see anything funny about it at all. What goes round comes round. The only losers will be us if we end up in the First Division with the Binos and still can't get those 'feckin' pies.
mortonjag 2007-03-15 14:29:02
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 15 2007, 02:12 PM) [snapback]242667[/snapback]

Why not (Football) United Club of Manchester, or FUCM? dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-15 15:08:08
QUOTE(moneyton @ Mar 15 2007, 02:33 PM) [snapback]242678[/snapback]
i know very little of the people who post on here but i have formed an opinon based entirely on the past couple of weeks....

1...MORTONJAG--likes to wind people up to get a response the flys into personal abuse (ie the f-off statement earlier whick i feel was not warranted)

I have looked through the bored and all i can see is small minded people giving abuse at the slightest knock and im sick of it..
We had a previous topic (CONFIDENCE BOOSTER) and 2 or 3 posts in it went pear shape with personal abuse and bad language to which my thoughts turn to the children who have access to the internet.if we are to have a forum on here then let it be of a positive and uplifting beat in the run in to our most important game of the season.

I am sick and tired of logging on to this board and reading personal abuse being thrown about all over the place

PACK IT IN THE LOT OF YOU.....If the boys on the park were to the read this (and ive been informed they have been told not too) they would begin to wonder what kind of supporters we are and if we are worth playing for

i have put this post on the CONFIDENCE BOOSTER TOPIC so the people involved see it and im also starting a new topic in both this forum and general nonsense as this is what you lot are doing

GET BEHIND THE TEAM AND NOT AT EACH OTHERS THROAT...IVE WAITED TO LONG FOR THIS PROMOTION

The road to hell is paved with good intentions-I don't intend to offend you in any way when I say 'You can't be serious'!
mortonjag 2007-03-15 15:10:35
QUOTE(lush @ Mar 15 2007, 03:07 PM) [snapback]242701[/snapback]
If you have not been a regular on here you would realise thats the way the guys talk to each other on here. They all love each other.....really..... wink.gif

ESPECIALLY the ones we hate!
mortonjag 2007-03-15 15:12:21
QUOTE(moneyton @ Mar 15 2007, 02:28 PM) [snapback]242671[/snapback]
i know very little of the people who post on here but i have formed an opinon based entirely on the past couple of weeks....

1...MORTONJAG--likes to wind people up to get a response the flys into personal abuse (ie the f-off statement earlier whick i feel was not warranted)

I have looked through the bored and all i can see is small minded people giving abuse at the slightest knock and im sick of it..
We had a previous topic (CONFIDENCE BOOSTER) and 2 or 3 posts in it went pear shape with personal abuse and bad language to which my thoughts turn to the children who have access to the internet.if we are to have a forum on here then let it be of a positive and uplifting beat in the run in to our most important game of the season.

I am sick and tired of logging on to this board and reading personal abuse being thrown about all over the place

PACK IT IN THE LOT OF YOU.....If the boys on the park were to the read this (and ive been informed they have been told not too) they would begin to wonder what kind of supporters we are and if we are worth playing for

i have put this post on the CONFIDENCE BOOSTER TOPIC so the people involved see it and im also starting a new topic in both this forum and general nonsense as this is what you lot are doing

GET BEHIND THE TEAM AND NOT AT EACH OTHERS THROAT...IVE WAITED TO LONG FOR THIS PROMOTION

You've been on that Voddie mate! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-15 15:14:06
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 15 2007, 03:12 PM) [snapback]242706[/snapback]
So what!! You are a sensitive one aren't you? If you don't like it away and find new friends to play with or set us all to ignore. No-one has over stepped the rules of the board or said anything outrageously offensive. Also I've yet to see anything that could even be closely termed abuse. If anyone were to threaten someone, that would be abuse but to call someone a complete tit or a moron or whatever, well that's opinion really.

Spot on you mingin' rat arsed apology for humanity! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-15 15:15:29
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 15 2007, 03:13 PM) [snapback]242707[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif I agree (for once).

Thanks darling-oh have you taken your medicine yet? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-15 15:17:09
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 15 2007, 02:37 PM) [snapback]242680[/snapback]
Stirling are doing well at the moment (on the park), but they are not far away from being f***ed with their huge debt!

..incurred because they don't make enough from the sale of pies.
mortonjag 2007-03-15 15:18:34
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 15 2007, 03:17 PM) [snapback]242711[/snapback]
No problem ya self professed smart arse King of the Clowns wee jobby. laugh.gif laugh.gif

That is a bridge too far Sir. I shall see you in court. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-15 15:24:00
QUOTE(c***ney_Reject @ Mar 15 2007, 03:18 PM) [snapback]242713[/snapback]
Bored old timer? Why dont you get back to your kniting or go for a lunchtime water aerobics at the pool or perhaps a wee scone and tea in the Aulds tea-room with the rest of your generation tongue.gif

And before you try and ping that one back 180 degrees with some employment related witticism.......I am posting this from the CLT lab in my University wink.gif

Sorry CR-you've got it in one-I may as well come clean. I've tried so hard to be upbeat and macho about my sad existence like my shrink said, but my only interest in life is this board, and all I seem to get is abuse.

Is it something I've been saying? huh.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-15 15:26:12
QUOTE(lush @ Mar 15 2007, 03:23 PM) [snapback]242721[/snapback]
......or just buy the oven. Got to speculate to accumulate. wink.gif

Exactly, the crowds will come flooding back as you get relegated yet again-the way to any fan's pocket is through his belly.
mortonjag 2007-03-15 15:28:06
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 15 2007, 03:19 PM) [snapback]242717[/snapback]
Aye a jester's court.

...and guess who's the jester! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-15 15:30:58
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 15 2007, 03:18 PM) [snapback]242715[/snapback]
I'm waiting on the nurse to let me out this straight jacket first. Typing with your nose is awfully painful.

Tell me about it, I escaped from mine last week, and now I'm in a body plaster. The only thing that's free is my dick, and now it's covered in ulcers with all this typing.
mortonjag 2007-03-15 15:33:22
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 15 2007, 03:30 PM) [snapback]242730[/snapback]

F*ck that s***e ThornTON-let's be positive-it's not that difficult once you get the hang of it-Tra la la-diddly dum-hee hee hee.
mortonjag 2007-03-15 15:35:49
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 15 2007, 02:45 PM) [snapback]242687[/snapback]
Of course it is, I use Wikipedia as well.... tongue.gif

Wilkipedia's a hamlet in outer Rutland.
mortonjag 2007-03-15 15:37:43
QUOTE(lush @ Mar 15 2007, 03:35 PM) [snapback]242736[/snapback]
Oh go on then. wink.gif

No way am I hugging any of that lot-they're all out to get me.
mortonjag 2007-03-15 15:40:48
QUOTE(lush @ Mar 15 2007, 03:34 PM) [snapback]242734[/snapback]
Have you taken to many Prozac? unsure.gif

Yes, and it's fantastic-hee hee hee-just tried to shag the fridge diddly dum-now where's my dentures -there we are-can't resist a three day old puddin' supper...
mortonjag 2007-03-15 15:43:09
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 15 2007, 03:40 PM) [snapback]242745[/snapback]
that explains everything. your hormones are all f***ed up with the pregnancy. i hope nobody made you cry.

Of course they are-SHE'S pregnant FFS-oops darling-sorry I've blown our cover!
mortonjag 2007-03-15 15:44:58
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Mar 15 2007, 03:39 PM) [snapback]242743[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif now that made me laugh, best of the day cool.gif

Hopefully he'll now f*ck off and fiddle with his Willie!
mortonjag 2007-03-15 15:45:49
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Mar 15 2007, 03:44 PM) [snapback]242747[/snapback]
Oh no I have been found out.........

Never mind I am sure I will get over it eh?????

Deny everything.
mortonjag 2007-03-15 16:07:16
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 15 2007, 03:52 PM) [snapback]242751[/snapback]
Please for your own sake if no-one elses, walk away from the PC... 63 posts in 24 hours is not healthy!!!

Becoming NewTon is not a desirable quality in someone.

Listen sonny boy, don't teach yer Granda how to suck eggs. I do plenty with the rest of my time, AND have plenty of it-just thank your lucky stars you've got one quality poster to keep the rest of you on your toes! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-15 16:09:45
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Mar 15 2007, 03:57 PM) [snapback]242752[/snapback]
Totally agree with you there. I find Mr Jag posts to be both constructive and occassionally humourous. Sometimes his posts go over some peoples heads but he is not the worst on this board by far.
Also excellent post Midtons. Think your idea is superb.

Thanks son-you never let yer old man down and never will.

Aye most of my wit goes over their heids like a giraffe's baws!
mortonjag 2007-03-15 16:11:23
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Mar 15 2007, 03:59 PM) [snapback]242753[/snapback]
Untrue, and I don't really care if I am in the minority.

Your trying too hard lad-I DO feel a right tit at times, just like Napoleon in his fotie.
mortonjag 2007-03-15 16:15:47
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 15 2007, 04:10 PM) [snapback]242757[/snapback]
Surely not!! ohmy.gif The first sweary words in a thread attributed to that scallywag Mortonjag? Here was me thinking he was a fine upstanding family man too, a society gent if you will.

Upstanding-well-not that often those days-the rest-nah-I just lie about in my scratcher all day getting pissed and dictating my posts for the cat to type.
mortonjag 2007-03-15 16:19:41
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 15 2007, 04:12 PM) [snapback]242760[/snapback]
Do you ever get the chance to feel a left tit too? It's always better with a pair.

Me and ratarse-the biggest pair of tits on the board-let's write an article in the 'Tele'-we'll call ourselves the Melons, and spew out real seedy nonsence that DDFR can copy in his rag.! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-16 06:15:17
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Mar 15 2007, 09:37 PM) [snapback]242866[/snapback]
Haha, I was kidding anyway.

Alot of artists had substance problems though - I mean look at guys like Hendrix with the drugs. Drink again aswell, look at Van Gough: got so out of his head on absinthe that he thought sending a lassie an ear in the post was a good way to impress her.

....and all she said was 'Wot's this 'ere?'
mortonjag 2007-03-16 06:48:43 Hugh Scott is not the most uncommon name in the country. Would it not be wise to confirm that this is indeed our old benefactor? mad.gif

.... or am I being negative again? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-16 06:54:00 MORTON,MORTON, MORTON FOR THE TOP laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-16 07:03:24
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 15 2007, 05:46 PM) [snapback]242792[/snapback]
A few things 'float ma boat', but this is not the place to discuss them rolleyes.gif

Tug away Sean-nobody can see you! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-16 07:07:43 I once saw Andy Ritchie----running.
mortonjag 2007-03-16 07:14:22
QUOTE(moneyton @ Mar 16 2007, 01:26 AM) [snapback]242942[/snapback]
they can shout all they want...i just think that sometimes it goes (in the words of those great comedians)....TOO FAR

Aye, right, bet you're lovin' every minute of this.


HATE AS YOU'VE NEVER HATED BEFORE AND GET IT OFF YOUR CHEST I SAY mad.gif wacko.gif ph34r.gif wacko.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-16 07:23:52 [quote name='Mabawsa Ritchie' date='Mar 15 2007, 05:25 PM' post='242785']
I'm sure everyone on here remembers our loan signing from Livingston in the latter half of last season - one James McPake. Most will also recall that his performances whilst at Cappielow could, at best, be described as 'unimpressive'.

A mate of mine recently passed me the Match Programme from the Livingston v Hamilton Accies match at Almondvale on 27th January which contains an interview with the aforementioned Mr McPake. This excerpt typfies the content:

[b]"When I went to Morton I hated it there
and I saw how good a club Livingston is, facilities wise and everything. It made me see what football can be like if things don't work out.

It's NOT nice to hear, but there's an old saying-'No smoke without fire'.

Instead of everybody tearing the guy to shreds, it would have be nice to know what went wrong and why. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-16 07:30:41 Alonso will win.

Incidentally the first sale of a petrol driven car (Benz) took place in Paris 119 years ago to this day.
mortonjag 2007-03-16 07:34:43
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 15 2007, 11:49 PM) [snapback]242923[/snapback]
Let them eat cake.

Let them eat humble pie.
mortonjag 2007-03-16 07:39:09
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 15 2007, 09:09 PM) [snapback]242857[/snapback]
Rab's not a Rangers fan. He's been going to Morton games home and away since I was a kid.

DM, you seem to know one HELLUVALOT about this mysterious guy.

He's a lifelong Ton supporter, and you clearly have affection for him.

He's been going to home and away games since 'YOU' were a kid.

He enjoys writing wee articles....but

He DOESN'T post on this board..... blink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-16 08:00:06 ALBINOS 0 TON 8....but

Pie oven will fail at 2.27

DDFR will be ejected for swearing and JM will be seen smiling, before the referee suffers severe injuries as Binos fans launch frozen pie missiles, and game is abandoned after 89 minutes 59 seconds.

Binos win re match 27-6 and clinch championship on goal difference. wacko.gif wub.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-16 08:51:23
QUOTE(barrheadton @ Mar 15 2007, 09:01 PM) [snapback]242853[/snapback]
Does anyone know what the roadworks situation is on the way to Stirling at the moment. I know about the airport and the works at the stadium.

If you don't find out by the afternoon, I'll let you know, as I'm going through to Menstrie later and will take the M90, and then the 'St Andrews' mill trail route why by-passes the stadium. I believe there are no major works at the moment.
mortonjag 2007-03-16 10:01:08
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Mar 16 2007, 09:38 AM) [snapback]242986[/snapback]
I have no sympathy for the Clydesdale bank. The bank should know better than to deal with this little crook.
A good friend of mine, who occasionally posts on this board, was in a Glasgow garage when Scott was purchasing a new car. It took him all his time to refrain from approaching the car salesman and warning him to be on his guard. Indeed if he had produced a cheque as payment he was going to approach the saleman and tell him that he should not accept it. He had to be restrained by his wife from approaching the saleman when the wee s***e ended up paying by credit card. Yes folks he bought the car on his credit card(s) as he didn't have the funds elsewhere.

Anybody who deals in anything less than cash with this man wants their head examined.

Can anyone CONFIRM that the man cited IS Hugh Scott, the fans' darling?
mortonjag 2007-03-16 10:05:35
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Mar 16 2007, 09:35 AM) [snapback]242985[/snapback]
It was all JM's fault I suppose? How boring and predictable you are. Perhaps it all went wrong because the boy was p*sh and had a bad attitude to boot? mad.gif

Your reply was probably more predictable scrotum scratcher!

Did I mention JM? WELL-did I? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-16 10:08:04
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 16 2007, 10:01 AM) [snapback]242997[/snapback]
Nothing went wrong, he was just crap.

If anything, McInally got something right by trying him out at centreback in the reserves where he seems to have excelled this season.

Fair enough, but why sign him on loan in the first place if he was pish.

I suspect he's a 'no bad' player if things go right for him.

My question was NOT loaded-I WOULD like to know what went wrong.
mortonjag 2007-03-16 10:17:05
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 16 2007, 10:11 AM) [snapback]243007[/snapback]
Do you want a stewards enquiry ?

Something rather ironic about that comment WDE.

'Carthorse' was one of the favourite insults when Big Sanny did his 'McPake' last season.
mortonjag 2007-03-16 11:11:20
QUOTE(maurtaun @ Mar 16 2007, 11:08 AM) [snapback]243031[/snapback]
I read that wrong at first.

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mortonjag 2007-03-18 06:47:26 Correct-the players have NEVER been the ones to blame.

Seems only a short time since over eighty percent said they had total confidence in the manager's ability, but maybe they were just takin' the piss. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-18 06:48:51 It was said months ago by someone!

We will get promotion in spite of McInally. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-18 06:52:12
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Mar 18 2007, 12:36 AM) [snapback]244150[/snapback]
I, we, have to say that you are 100% coorect myfriend, McInally doesnt have a f***ing clue and you have been correct the whole time.

wink.gif It's actually the wee lad on my left who makes the assessments-he doesn't have any coaching certificates, but as you will notice, he has a pair of eyes!
mortonjag 2007-03-18 06:57:10 For once I'll stick up for JM.

At least he's been steadfast and honest, and hasn't swayed from his opinions.

Maybe if half of you had been less keen to tear Willowman, KP Low, Chrissiboi, and others to shreds for the sake of it, you'd have seen it as it was much earlier.

Only when it comes to being rightly taunted by the Binos fans, have you chucked away your 'rose tints' en masse.

Shower of mindless muppets. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-18 07:05:52
QUOTE(piehutt @ Mar 18 2007, 03:23 AM) [snapback]244180[/snapback]
Here we go.

The usual ridiculous over-reaction we get from Ton fans after a defeat.

We are still in pole position to win the league and McInally is going nowhere.

Dean Keenan is shyte and I'd be surprised if he ever plays for Morton again while things are so tight.

If anyone thinks we are going to part company with Jim in the current position then think again. 7 crucial games to go - potentially 4 points clear next week. We only need to win 6 games and the league is definately ours. Stirling will lose at least one game - so that's only 5 games from 7.

Easy.

Let's put it this way-JM knows exactly what Deano's capable of, AND otherwise. HE put the boy on, and then pulled him back off again FOR DOING HIS BEST.

He's been MOTM twice this season, despite few starts, and is one of the few players you can ALWAYS rely on to get mucked in. I he got wellied into JM, I don't condone it, but it's completely understandable.
mortonjag 2007-03-18 07:11:48 Leave the players out for a while. Once we get promotion, I guess JM ought to walk the plank, and let the incomer build his own squad.
mortonjag 2007-03-18 07:15:32 IF JM walks or gets the boot after we scrape our promotion, I guess an experienced incomer would keep about 75% of the existing squad. Five or six well chosen players are all we need to succeed in Division 1.
mortonjag 2007-03-18 07:20:26
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 17 2007, 10:57 PM) [snapback]244094[/snapback]
The league table never lies. Wherever we finish (and it WILL be first wink.gif ) we will have merited that position.

WE?

Who the f*ck are WE?

Fans, players, manager,-WHAT?

You are correct-the league table never lies. Bookies favourites by a country mile, and now hanging on by the skin of our teeth.

We WILL get promotion, but I firmly believe somebody merits a size 12 up his arse.
mortonjag 2007-03-18 07:26:47
QUOTE(Mags @ Mar 18 2007, 12:12 AM) [snapback]244135[/snapback]
Totally agree with what you're saying but I also think JM should not just accept the blame,but he should come out and explain his decisions today....I for one can't wait to hear his reasons.
Mags

Mags, has it not occurred to you that although JM's a nice lad, and was a brilliant footballer, he really hasn't a clue. His lack of imagination in almost every area is incredible. He'll just dip into the old cliche book yet again.

Possibly: 'we had the game under control, but let it slip away'.

If he takes any blame himself I'll be gobsmacked and delighted.
mortonjag 2007-03-18 07:27:39
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Mar 18 2007, 07:23 AM) [snapback]244219[/snapback]
Since we had a 12 point lead twice now, your choice of number is impecable tongue.gif

You're up early! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-18 07:33:08
QUOTE(Savo @ Mar 18 2007, 05:02 AM) [snapback]244204[/snapback]
OK, so Jim should account for his actions. That's perfectly fair enough, because they were highly questionable.

But I would say this: let's not forget he is not the only one.

For example, regardless of where you stand on Keenan's introduction, the fact is that, once he was on, the boy proceeded to behave like an utter clown. He was ridiculously ill-disciplined and reckless.

He had 60-odd minutes to watch the play from the sidelines, yet is so thick he comes on and starts careering into stupid challenges in areas where we were always liable to be punished by players infinitely more talented than him. He pays no attention to what is going on while he is warming up - because his head is full of stupid carry on. IMO he will never change and that marks him out as a liability who will get the career he deserves.

Then we have Greacen.

Hauled out of of position at the winner like a mug. Again. His decision-making would make Bobo Balde look like Franco Baresi. He makes crucial errors at vital stages of games week-in, week-out and is costing us points at every turn.

So, yes, feel free to question the manager, his subs and his strategy - but don't overlook the pathetic decision-making our players indulge in during games.

ALL players make mistakes in games, and yesterday was no exception, but to start picking out individuals for yesterday's throw away fiasco is both unfair and blinkered IMO.

Do you honestly believe that if Moore and McInally had swopped places at the kick off, Stirling would have won? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-18 07:37:26
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Mar 18 2007, 07:18 AM) [snapback]244217[/snapback]
Shouldnt it be your bedtime old man laugh.gif tongue.gif

I haven't slept a wink for almost two days-been crying my eyes out incessantly since my 'ban', and then there was THAT game. Old men need little sleep! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-18 07:39:23
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Mar 18 2007, 07:11 AM) [snapback]244212[/snapback]
I woulfd be f***ing fuming if i was in DK's position. I would be a professiiional though and have to do what my 'boss' said wether it wads right or wrong.

McInally has his favouritres, no doubt about it and i hope thisd problem can be sorted asap as we have a title to focus on.

If Deano's not yet calmed down, the problem may already have been sorted.

Our sympathies-an aw' that.
mortonjag 2007-03-18 07:44:23
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Mar 17 2007, 11:24 AM) [snapback]243595[/snapback]
I voted for f*&k. My wife says that she's going to put the inscription "Aw, F*&K!" on my gravestone. laugh.gif

Manky's will say-'Keep off the grass'.
mortonjag 2007-03-18 07:48:33 laugh.gif
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 16 2007, 07:12 PM) [snapback]243338[/snapback]
MJ in a happy mood, just before his ban!!!

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mortonjag 2007-03-18 07:51:02 Kimi, Fernando, Louis in that order.

I still think Alonso will make it this year, but Hamilton's proving a genuine talent-contrary to the opinion of Professor Coultard.
mortonjag 2007-03-18 07:58:41 Good morning me hearties-I hope the hangovers are not too severe!

I decided to leave it 'til after the game to post, as I really thought we'd win and everybody would be in party mood. As it was, I've just slept on it!

I've written a nice wee letter to 'the boss' and hope he takes no offence, and I've still to go back and sort out a couple of cowardly c*nts who tried to kick me while I was down! mad.gif

I was so much hoping to see that immensely valuable post match input from our experienced football coach jackton, but she and Sir Galahad appear, for the time being at least, to have fled the scene! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-18 08:05:14
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Mar 16 2007, 02:57 PM) [snapback]243158[/snapback]
1) The decision of the admin and moderators is final. Relentless badgering will not help.
2) Post nothing illegal. Illegal text, images etc. will be deleted and the user warned.
3) Posts that are threatening may be deleted or moved, and the user may be warned.
4) Anything that is deemed damaging to the site, to Greenock Morton FC or to the hosting company can be removed without explanation or, in most cases, without prior notice.
5) Repeated warnings will result in a suspension; repeated warnings after a suspension will result in a permanent ban.
6) In accordance with number 4, here are just a few things that won't be tolerated: racism, glorification of terrorism or murder, sectarian bigotry, posts excessively violent in nature.
7) No copyrighted material is to be posted on the board. This includes SFL-licensed images, and text from websites (INCLUDING gmfc.net.) Just post a link!
8) Again, the decision of the site staff is final and to be respected, even if it isn't agreed with. You can PM me for an explanation on any decision, but that does not alter the finality of the decision.
9) Have fun, and let the banter flow freely.

Therefore (in a very quiet voice) free the cantankerous one - a decision I obviously regret.

cool.gif ScotinBelgie

Scotty, I might as well use your post to state categorically that I HAVE NOT HAD REPEATED WARNINGS mad.gif

This was a straight red card, and the post was rapidly deleted after very few read it, so I can't now even attempt to let folk see the funny side of it all. Furthermore, I only knew of the ban when I tried to post. A personal message received some time later stated that 'I'd been put on the naughty step', and could 'return to the fold after 24 hours if I so desired'! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-18 08:07:52
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 16 2007, 06:29 PM) [snapback]243300[/snapback]
does anyone actually want him back on the board as they like his posts and feel he brings a good contribution to the threads, or do they just feel it's unfair banning someone for free speak!

I personally feel his personal attacks on people are over the top, and unless there is a promise to relent from doing so he should stay banned!

You are entitled to your puerile opinion, I'm sorry to say, and when you grow up and enter the real man's world, I'm sure you'll see things differently. wub.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-18 08:10:57
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 17 2007, 11:24 AM) [snapback]243594[/snapback]
I'm telling you, I'm on my soap box today!!! this is my second frank response on something I know absolutely nothing about.

All of you - listen up

This board is provided free of charge to each and every one of us to use as we see fit and all done within the framework of moderation as posted previously, if MJ has broken the framework, then tough s***, he suffers the consequences.

As an aside - all of the above must be liberal supporters (def not new labour) - and wearing pink lycra v neck golf sweaters

Have a good day

Correct.
mortonjag 2007-03-18 08:44:51
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 16 2007, 04:46 PM) [snapback]243231[/snapback]
FANTASTIC EFFORT MATE laugh.gif
God I love you!!
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thats made my day!! tongue.gif

I deem that provocative, offensive, and totally out of order. I am a poor disabled geriatric with psychological problems. Prepare to receive your PM from the moderator!
mortonjag 2007-03-18 08:46:54 rolleyes.gif
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Mar 16 2007, 04:47 PM) [snapback]243232[/snapback]
he should have been banned ages ago for his hatred towards jim mcInally, & if he doesn't like that he can go f*** himself !!

On that basis, there will be a mass banishment when Mr Mod wakes up today! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-18 08:50:08
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 16 2007, 05:30 PM) [snapback]243264[/snapback]
I think that if you haven't been warned before then you'll be fine. I don't think the rules have changed, unfortunately neither has MJ. As it would seem from what's above that Mortonjag has had several warnings and as you said he's been acting the c*c* for months now.

I'm sure he'll be back soon - bless him. rolleyes.gif

YES-he's back with a bang you eejit, and NO HE HAD NOT HAD PREVIOUS WARNINGS.

As always you f*cked up! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-18 08:55:55
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 16 2007, 05:45 PM) [snapback]243273[/snapback]
that doesn't explain the deleted threads, though.

What has so far been stated by nobody is that I was initially attacked in such a pompous and sanctimonious manner that I incorrectly assumed the new poster whse name is 'JACK' ton was a guy at the 'wind up'. The deletion of the threads has prevented a true perspective on the matter, though most seem to have instinctively grasped it.
Although I rapidly explained that to the 'high heid yins' they stood their ground. The rest, I guess, is history.
mortonjag 2007-03-18 09:01:57
QUOTE(MFC_jamie @ Mar 18 2007, 08:42 AM) [snapback]244241[/snapback]
Welcome back mate.

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mortonjag 2007-03-18 09:09:27
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Mar 18 2007, 08:09 AM) [snapback]244233[/snapback]
erm..... no ! unsure.gif
hurrah, someone said it before me.

someone said earlier we're the laughing stock of scottish football right now, well, sacking the boss when we're top of the league with 7 games left & a game in hand WOULD make us the laughing stock.
i cant believe some fans are so thick they actually think sacking mcInally would be a good idea !! dry.gif

Sacking JM RIGHT NOW would be totally pointless.

I can't believe that so many fans are so thick that it's taken them 'til now too see he's useless.
mortonjag 2007-03-18 12:07:49
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 18 2007, 11:28 AM) [snapback]244289[/snapback]
http://www.greenockmorton.net/forum/index....st&p=213873

Methinks the lady doth protest TOO much rolleyes.gif

The 'lady' has not had previous 'WARNINGS'.

I was well aware that nacho had fired a shot across my bows on ONE occasion in the past, and suspected some smart arse might pick up on it. Congratulations!

It was a request with which I complied, and not a warning. It was not accompanied by a PM or action of any kind.

Now what exactly is your agenda trumpet ton? You'll have to spell it out for me. After all I can't go offending sensitive little souls who happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time-can I? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-18 12:10:21
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Mar 18 2007, 11:32 AM) [snapback]244292[/snapback]
Or there'll be a picture of a manky dug over his grave that says "no fouling." laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2007-03-18 12:17:09
QUOTE(MIFTHEBINO @ Mar 18 2007, 10:06 AM) [snapback]244257[/snapback]
I havent had time to read your forum, but I will be back on later. I just want to quickly than Roscoton and the commercial manager Susan for their donations and to every Morton fan who bought a raffle ticket yesterday. Rosco actually came all the way through from Greenock yesterday to hand over the ball- what a legend.We made about £450 profit on the day (I still havent counted yet, but I will post a final amount later tonight) and in total we pulled in £169 from the Morton end, giving us a profit of £129 after paying for the strip. This is a fantastic amount guys- many thanks. cool.gif

The person who won the strip said it was her first Morton game sad.gif (I was hoping a proper fan would win it) and the guy collected his ball after the game.

Eh-was it a testimonial Mif?
mortonjag 2007-03-18 12:22:48
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 18 2007, 10:56 AM) [snapback]244270[/snapback]
I'm scunnered too but I also know that I'll probably be back next season and the season after that as I'm just a Morton man and have been all my life. I seen worse times than this.

I do, however, seriously fear for the club if we don't go up this season. There will be a lot like Colkitto. I think it will almost certainly mean going part time and therefore the current team will go to be rebuilt with part timers. Thats not necessarily a bad thing long term but it is a start again scenario and if that happens who knows when we might get out of this f**king league.

Tonsilitis, everybody's knee jerking after yesterday, and understandably, but don't worry, we'll get promotion-I'M POSITIVE.

JM has tortured us-of that there's no doubt, but he's also assembled a squad who will ultimately prevail.

Incidentally, nobody seems to have clocked the fact that Mathers did not have to make one real save yesterday. Sadly Hogarth was in a similar situation, but there is still time to rectify that.
mortonjag 2007-03-18 12:25:54
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Mar 18 2007, 09:27 AM) [snapback]244252[/snapback]
if he was useless we wouldn't be top of the league. dry.gif

You seem to be out on a limb on that one you sozzled simian-we are top of the league (just), in spite of his best efforts, not because of them.
mortonjag 2007-03-18 12:48:46
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Mar 18 2007, 12:11 PM) [snapback]244312[/snapback]
I dont think this will affect the game at all next week though,

It worries me a bit-teams have a habit of raising their game when a 'new broom' comes in. I DO believe we'll win it-simply because we have to. I know that can be said of yesterday too, but Stirling are well ahead of Forfar in ability.
mortonjag 2007-03-18 12:55:47
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Mar 18 2007, 12:41 PM) [snapback]244330[/snapback]
I still cannot believe we didn't win yesterday.

We were the better team and were in total control until the referee (inept throughout) got in the way of Millar (who played really well) clearing the ball. Then Keenan made a very rash challenge which he should not have made and they score. That for me is really bad luck and it's not often we have been robbed recently, but yesterday it was truly smash and grab.

There was no question of bottling it. The players were right up for it and totally in control until we lost a freak goal. The players did not deserve to lose yesterday and hopefully the injustice will spur them into action and destroy the opposition in the next 7 games.

We still need to be right behind the team and will them to the championship.

With regards to the subs yesterday, I think Jamie was injured as he pulled up early in the 2nd half. If Temps was brought off because of injury, fair enough, but if not, it was a bad piece of judgement. But I don't think McInally is to blame for this one. Keenan made a seriously bad error of judgement and Linn missed a true sitter. Those are not McInally's fault, not one bit. I could have stayed on my feet and hustled when Deano dived in and I could have stuck the ball in the net when Linn missed. Neither of those are McInally's fault.

Deano was the correct sub to make (despite McLaughlin having a poor game) as McInally had to make his point. I hope the side recover from this and none of the team are made scapegoats for what was a very very unjust result.

I agree with just about all of that, but I genuinely feel sorry for Linn. It's been made clear to the boy, who's a good wee striker at this level, that he has to 'earn his place'. He's then brought on with about 15 minutes to go, and you can FEEL his desperation to put one away. It's happened on three or more occasions now, and always in the same situation. Gowser has to stay in the team, and yesterday he scored a sharp one, but he's not a striker. When did Millar and Stevenson BOTH play well at the same time? I'd start Bobby against Forfar, and if that happens I'm confident he'll bag one or even two.
mortonjag 2007-03-18 12:58:10
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 18 2007, 12:35 PM) [snapback]244327[/snapback]
I think that's right that they had to pay for the strip, and rightly so. I don't grudge them buying it, although a new pie oven is perhaps fairly low down the list of priorities for charitable causes...

...unless you're a greedy pig!
mortonjag 2007-03-18 20:36:40
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 18 2007, 02:57 PM) [snapback]244407[/snapback]
Someone doesn't seem to have learned their lesson it would appear rolleyes.gif

'Someone' is singular-'their' is plural, and YOU clearly have many lessons to learn my child.

May I puncture your sarcastic little ballon, by differentiating for you between provocative fun-poking and denigration.
IF you have the wit to understand me, perhaps you'll now toddle off for your Horlicks. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-18 20:39:36
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 18 2007, 02:04 PM) [snapback]244390[/snapback]
No, some of us have logic.

McInally is not a good manaqger, but anyone with any sense can see that sacking him would serve no purpose.

.....at the moment.
mortonjag 2007-03-18 20:47:50
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 18 2007, 01:34 PM) [snapback]244371[/snapback]
Why can the team not shoot a bit more, we over play when they should be BLOODY shooting....

Bryan, when will you ever learn?

The first lesson from the Gospel according to St. James of the Impeccable Gameplan...

'Go not thou the simple road, when with complication, tribulation, weeping and wailing, and much gnashing of teeth, thou may gloriously achieve thine heavenly goal'. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-18 20:59:40
QUOTE(Savo @ Mar 18 2007, 01:20 PM) [snapback]244355[/snapback]
In what way is he 'not a striker'?

In the way that black is not white.
mortonjag 2007-03-18 21:04:50 This season has been crazy-NOTHING ever seems to have gone to form.

I wouldn't be in the slightest surprised if we storm back and hammer everybody in the remaining games.

The only predictable element there would be the return of St. James to his hallowed pedestal for the accustomed feet kissing.
mortonjag 2007-03-18 21:12:44
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 18 2007, 07:52 PM) [snapback]244547[/snapback]
I'd drop McLaughlin, play McGowan in midfield and put Linn up front. Problem solved.

I'd be willing to drop Scotty as you suggest, if we're going to play attack minded football, but the season long obsession with consolidating in midfield makes that highly unlikely.

The alternative would be to rest Midge.
mortonjag 2007-03-18 21:22:38 I agree with Chrissiboi.

JM never does anything other than state the obvious and then never does anything to improve on it.

If you look at the posts during last closed season, several of us were pleading endlessly for an experienced holding midfielder.

I felt very surprised that the Board sat back and let that happen. I would be equally surprised if they secretly now have much faith in JM's wisdom.
mortonjag 2007-03-18 21:26:54 I read the article this morning-the guy's obviously jigging up for his second shot at O-level English, and his Uncle Dick works for the paper.

Treat it with the contempt it deserves.
mortonjag 2007-03-18 21:28:57
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 18 2007, 09:18 PM) [snapback]244602[/snapback]
blink.gif he is our top scorer..

...We are top of the league. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-18 21:40:54
QUOTE(OLDTON @ Mar 18 2007, 08:37 PM) [snapback]244573[/snapback]
I feel this MORTON team and MANAGER are all going to be here next season. That would be a good thing. Look at our season so far:

Top of the league since the first week
Scottish Cup win against Kilmarnock and should have got a result against Motherwell
Semi finalists in challange cup vs Clyde

All good teams have a blip, look at Chelsea, Barcelona, 2 of the best teams in Europe all have there problems and that is what we are currently going through. We WILL still win the league and i feel Jim McInally should get a pat on the back because he has done a great job and he has taken alot of s*** from alot of supporters and this man has a great record as Morton manager.

The players are young and maturing fast in a hard league and deserve alot of credit.

C'MON JIM McINALLY
C'MON MORTON

DIVISION 2 CHAMPS

Your comparisons are, I fear, invalid.

Good sides have blips-everybody knows that, but good sides are managed by GOOD managers who have the ability to rectify mistakes and turn things around.

Morton's fate this season has been left to a handful of talented, but inexperienced kids, who haven't even had the benefit of an 'old head' on the pitch, let alone ANY obvious managerial input during games.

JM got enormous praise for what was a superb TEAM performance against Killie. At the time I thought he had finally managed to instil the much needed self belief and drive into the kids.

Since then we've been back on the downward spiral.

The players are the same boys who beat Killie, and there's no evidence that they're not doing THEIR best on the park- so what's the missing link-why can 'so good' be 'so bad'?

The answer sits on the dug out bench, arms folded, and upstaging Mona Lisa with that glaicet leer of his.
mortonjag 2007-03-18 21:46:32
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 18 2007, 09:31 PM) [snapback]244612[/snapback]
he scored yesterday rolleyes.gif

You're correct, and only about the third genuine 'striker's goal all season-great wee attacking midfielder is Gowser. Linn's not much of a 'footballer' but he can certainly stick them away.
mortonjag 2007-03-18 21:51:09
QUOTE(farpost @ Mar 18 2007, 09:38 PM) [snapback]244617[/snapback]
If Stevenson was indeed injured, then surely it would have made more sense to 'close' the game out by bringing on Findlayson at right back (the only guy of the listed 16 with the engine to get down to the bye line) and putting Weatherson into midfield. (just like he did last Saturday at Alloa) I don't think that Keenan is up to the required standard, I know its been pointed out (rightly so) about his commitment, enthusiasm etc. but we can't have guys diving in around their own penalty box like a pinball machine. A worry I have is the number of times Keenan is in the pool - shows to me we have a real shortfall of backup.

farpost, we could argue about this all night.

JM's squad is hugely top heavy with midfielders-you haven't even mentioned Alex Walker, for example.

Forgetting youngsters and fringe players, we do not have one single full back, nor a single winger, and our (finally) successful target man is backed up by yet another midfielder-labelled a 'striker', while Linn warms his arse on the bench.
mortonjag 2007-03-18 22:10:04 I've just e-mailed the Sports Editor.

Dear Sir,


What has the Herald come to?

We are well aware of the fond association of 'hacks' with 'the bottle', but this gentleman has plainly been 'drunk in charge of a laptop'.

A thoroughly despicable slur on the good folk of Inverclyde, which begs an apology.
mortonjag 2007-03-18 22:33:11
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 17 2007, 10:11 PM) [snapback]244032[/snapback]
Well if the team is short of balls , then surely that is another death nail in JM's coffin as he has assembled this team over 3 seasons . It hasn't been like we have had an injury crisis we have probably had the most stable line up in the division , even when there has been scepticism of individual players they have been ever present .
Guys like Alex Walker have had little football all season and to ask them to come in at this point is a risk as well . That is also down to JM's pig headedness in sticking to the same starting line up.
DDFR has a big decision at the end of the season , will all these doubts disappear if we lift the title or will there be a lets not forgive and forget by the fans for making what should have been a comfortable season into another of nail biting anxiety.

I'm fearful that when we get promotion, JM will stay put. Let's face it, the Board has seemed totally unwilling to do anything other than give him full command, even when deficiencies have been glaring since the end of last season.

Frankly, if THEY had any balls, he'd have been 'oot the door' months ago IMO.
mortonjag 2007-03-18 22:36:32
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Mar 18 2007, 09:31 PM) [snapback]244611[/snapback]
Don't think we could bring in an emergency load- what is the reason for the emergency? Plus (and I may be wrong) I am sure there is a cut-off dates for loan transfers, which has passed

I take it you weren't at Stirling-the emergency is a totally viable body that's brain damaged.
mortonjag 2007-03-18 22:40:29
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 18 2007, 08:50 PM) [snapback]244583[/snapback]
Come on - pulling someone up on their grammar is very poor indeed, especially when the sentence you are referreing to is grammatically accurate rolleyes.gif

It appears that you have chosen to ignore the point I made in my previous post. Funny that...

Someone has apparently ignored HIS education, you ignorant little boy.

Your previous point was answered appropriately, and went right over your pinbrain head.
mortonjag 2007-03-18 22:49:32 It's surely unhealthy that almost everyone seems agreed on the JM issue, when only a short time ago over 85% had total confidence in his ability.

Is this just evidence of the fickleness of the average Ton fan, or was the majority afraid for some reason to state its real opinion?

I don't believe our homely little 'rag' cuts any ice in the corridors of power at Scapa, but many others dispute that.

If, in fact, I am wrong, and the current opinion had been voiced when the 'Taxi' thread was incepted-we might now be sitting comfortably as champions.
mortonjag 2007-03-18 22:55:39
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 18 2007, 09:08 PM) [snapback]244597[/snapback]
Our play resembles the nervousness of a spotty teenager trying to have a wee grope at his burd on a first date .

...and looking over his shoulder for guidance from his big brother, failing to realise he's a poofter.
mortonjag 2007-03-18 23:04:45 I am possibly JM's most vocal critic, and my opinion of him has remained substantially unchanged for more than a year. I honestly believe, however, that 'the devil we know' should remain with us 'til the end of the season-whatever may befall us.

If we had a squad of mixed youth and experience, I'd probably think the opposite, but I doubt if our kids would have time to adjust to any radical shake up before the end of the season.
mortonjag 2007-03-18 23:58:50
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Nov 20 2006, 01:54 PM) [snapback]203734[/snapback]
This one has definately come out of MortanJag's top drawer. 75% of this board is blind. It doesn't matter what we actually say or think, if it in any way goes against his obviously superior understanding of managing Morton then we are miguided fools. My only concern would be if we were to buy into MortonJag's extremely blinkered and negative perspective, then we really would have the blind leading the blind.

dry.gif ScotinBelgie

....almost four months down the line Scotty, and MY opinion hasn't wavered. Have you read the last 24 hours' posts?

BTW I apologise for dragging up your post-it was by no means the most aggressive, and was at least couched in reasonable English! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-19 00:12:54
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 18 2007, 11:48 PM) [snapback]244662[/snapback]
God almighty...is this the level of over sensitivity we've reached on here. So, some guy writes a crap article on Morton? Big deal.

All I can say is if this is all you've got to get bothered about then can we swap lives please?

Nope!


DM I've been a Herald reader for almost fifty years. The standard of journalism may have slipped a bit in that time, but this piece could have been better constructed by a twelve year old.

It's clearly intended to be light hearted, witty, and inoffensive, and in fact has achieved exactly the opposite on all three counts.

Had it been about-say-Ayr supporters, I'd have felt exactly the same revulsion, though having our own fans targeted has certainly fuelled my ire.

What is it with you and journalism? There are good and bad in every walk of life. That McKay character was either pissed, or is a total kn**. Probably both I guess.
mortonjag 2007-03-19 00:21:52
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 18 2007, 11:53 PM) [snapback]244667[/snapback]
This is controversial and no doubt some players would knock me out for saying so but I reckon some of them deep down don't want promotion as they know they aint good enough for the 1st division and would be replaced if we got there.

I understand what you say, but it's the better players who SHOULD be ambitious for promotion, yet those are the ones who seem to lack fire as often as not.

JM's been honest, if slightly pathetic, today in citing inexperience. HE is the man who went down that road, and HE must take full responsibility, especially as in relative terms, he is the least experienced of the lot.
mortonjag 2007-03-19 00:37:46
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 18 2007, 09:02 PM) [snapback]244590[/snapback]
what is his postion then..

...pretty comfortable I'd guess-guaranteed a start every week no matter how well or badly he plays, and back off to the piggery come the summer!

Oh--attacking midfielder! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-19 00:42:40
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Mar 19 2007, 12:32 AM) [snapback]244676[/snapback]
MMmmmm it would be interesting to see if McInally has subbed more subs than any other manager in Scottish football.

Correct me if I'm wrong Willow, but when he arrived he was extremely reluctant to sub anybody.

I think that at that stage he hadn't got to the 'How to use substitutes efficiently' chapter of the coaching manual.

I have it on good authority that at primary school, reading was his worst subject, and he failed arithmetic.
mortonjag 2007-03-19 00:48:39
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Mar 19 2007, 12:35 AM) [snapback]244677[/snapback]
Massive over-reaction IMO. It's not too long ago we were cruising and knocking Killie out the cup, playing some great football. These players have got us here and have performed consistantly well all year. Has anybody ever stopped to think that the long season has taken its toll on a few of the guys?? A rest for a week here and there does nobody any harm and guys like Greacen, Millar, McAllistair could all do with a break - something McInally has neglected to do with them all season.
That being said, the title is still in our hands - relax.

The swing in the opinion polls is, as you say, Chris, a massive overreaction.

It sickens me to realise that half of those who are currently baying for St James' head, will be back kissing his arse if we pull away again.

What has not changed is the clear evidence of JM's naivety and inexperience, AND the sad fact that he does NOT appear to be learning from mistakes.
mortonjag 2007-03-19 00:51:43
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Mar 19 2007, 12:25 AM) [snapback]244674[/snapback]
No mention of the Sheep Shaggers hitting a female steward and battling with the police at Ibrox on Saturday.

Or does that not count laugh.gif

Well there weren't any sheep to get into on Copland Rd., were there? smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-19 01:04:53
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 19 2007, 12:56 AM) [snapback]244682[/snapback]
I can see your idea on McGowan abit like Craig Bellamy he can be more potent coming from a wide position . JM must gain sense or a backbone and put Linn on from the start at Forfar. The run in calls for experience ,as little as we have I think to continually to ignore Linn would be folly .
McGowan has had his chance and has improved into a better team player however Linn is the more predatory of the two and while we are leaking goals the more emphasise on the need to put away our chances .

Indeed, and your big pal has become surprisingly good as a 'target man', yet a high percentage of his head flicks are wasted because he hasn't got a decent poacher beside him.
mortonjag 2007-03-19 06:05:36
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Mar 18 2007, 08:29 PM) [snapback]244568[/snapback]
I believe it was a hit and run so they may have had quite some investigating to do, possibly even stopping vehicles that usually drive along that road?

I can't obviously comment on individual incidents, but it's becoming more and more commonplace for public areas to be 'sealed off', while the police 'complete investigations'.

I can see this headline coming-'Man choked to death on sausage as 999 ambulance forced to divert'.

And since it's Monday morning and we're hopefully trying to be positive, I'll add that choking to death on a sausage is much more common than you'd imagine.

That is to save good folks from misinterpretation of my post.

Incidentally, choking to death is the second most common cause of sudden death in fit young males, beaten only by road accidents.
mortonjag 2007-03-19 06:11:07
QUOTE(Savo @ Mar 19 2007, 01:17 AM) [snapback]244685[/snapback]
Why not reply with an answer to the question, instead of offering up yet another smug comment?

Savo the Saviour rushes to assistance of poor wee Bryan. Are you another clown who can't read?

Bryan and I frequently tease each other with those trite responses, and I DID answer a couple of posts later. If you're going to hit me, hit me hard-not with your snotter smeared Kleenex.
mortonjag 2007-03-19 06:14:12
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 19 2007, 01:19 AM) [snapback]244686[/snapback]
Are you seriously saying Scott McLaughlin should be holding the ball up with his back to goal and playing the ball out onto the wings ?

Paul McGowan is far too greedy to be anything other than a striker.

For 'greedy', read 'inexperienced'.

I'd like somebody-anybody, to set out a universally acceptable definition of striker.

In my definition which I've posted before Gowser clearly is not.
mortonjag 2007-03-19 06:17:02
QUOTE(Harper McGhee @ Mar 19 2007, 01:43 AM) [snapback]244688[/snapback]
Dunno what the rest of you think but I feel Linn is carrying one or two extra pounds under that flapping shirt. Enough anyway to ensure that he won't last a full 90. Could be as a former part-timer he's still adapting to the full-time setup. Certainly added a spark up front but a shocking miss and the failure to see Millar standing unmarked on the edge of the penalty box later on did disappoint me

....an attribute often fondly recalled in two ex Ton stars messrs Harper, and McGhee!
mortonjag 2007-03-19 06:22:27
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 19 2007, 05:19 AM) [snapback]244696[/snapback]
i've got nothing better to do, so i transferred the article into word and did a word count.

number of words about the game: 390

number of words slagging off us and stirling: 437

man... i'm so bored it's not real

Write a match report and send it to the Herald's Sports Ed. At least you're capable of a decent piece of prose, and you might get a couple of bob.
mortonjag 2007-03-19 07:25:12 It's funny how things have changed in three short generations. My dad, who died a year ago, was proud to be Scottish AND British. He was born in Greenock where my grandfather-a scouser, had been stationed during the first world war, and which became his adopted home.

When 'the old man' was still a teenager, he had to abandon his career when he was conscripted to the R.E.M.E to fight alongside his BRITISH mates-NOT 'to fight for King George' but to save the BRITISH people from a common enemy.

If he had refused, he'd have been chucked in jail as a 'conscientious objector'.

He lost six years of a promising career for the common cause, and on demob, had to start all over again.

Although they are rapidly 'dropping off', many of my Dad's generation are still alive, and would frankly be sickened by the attitudes of many of our posters, on each and every occasion this old chestnut gets dragged out.

Those men lived in the real world where they had little choice. Nowadays, when people are spoiled for choice, it's incredible how often their options verge on the bizarre.
mortonjag 2007-03-19 07:30:46 Colkitto is passionate about two things apparently-Scottish Nationalism, and the Ton.

Going on yesterday's posts, I guess the minute 'Baw Face' Salmond inevitably loses ground in his quest for promotion, Colkitto will tear his tartan season ticket to shreds.
mortonjag 2007-03-19 07:47:14
QUOTE(alexp @ Mar 19 2007, 02:32 AM) [snapback]244694[/snapback]
most of the squad should be changed, lets just start over and forget the past and move to higher leagues. get rid of the whole back four and bring in talent who wont screw us out of a victory. if mcgowan goes, they could use another great striker to take his position (an experienced first division player, assuming we get promoted) keep temps, linn, stevenson, weatherson, and a couple others. sell the rest to second and third division clubs where they belong.

The fool says 'This is old so it must be good'. The greater fool says 'This is new, so it must be better'.
Common sense says 'Keep the best of the old and renew the rest'.
mortonjag 2007-03-19 08:12:17 I'm trying to get things into perspective today. More than ANYTHING else, I desperately want us out of division 2.

It's no comfort to me that many of my fellow posters seem to be turning their backs on the manager, and I deprecate the singling out of individual players as scapegoats, but is there REALLY ANYTHING that we, as the paying fans, can do to improve our chances of first division football next year?

For once I'm not inviting clever, sarcastic, or offensive replies. I feel we are totally helpless, and it's not pleasant. huh.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-19 09:03:47
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 19 2007, 08:29 AM) [snapback]244711[/snapback]
Me and journalists? I couldn't possibly comment!!

Seriously though. How over sensitive do you have to be to get upset over that? Fair does complaining about the prose but who really cares about the content. Tomorrow's fish and chip paper.

Well I'll not be reading it again, as I'm dieting!

I, like yourself, can see the 'daft' side of it DM, but I'm still annoyed at the gratuitous 'take off' of the average Inverclyde football fan. Don't forget we live in a wee cosmopolitan capsule, but the Herald has a wide circulation throughout Scotland, and a surprising number of purportedly intelligent folks still believe what they read in the papers.
mortonjag 2007-03-19 09:22:43
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 19 2007, 09:05 AM) [snapback]244716[/snapback]
I'm now with Ernie.

Jim, I don't want to say, 'I told you so' to anybody. Folks got behind their manager, and quite rightly thought they could trust his judgement, particularly when we seemed to be doing reasonably well.

I just think it's incredibly sad that inexperience has left us where we are, when really we should have clinched promotion by now. Ultimately questions must be asked of the Board, as, like his players, JM's only doing his best.

In the paper today he's quoted as follows, 'As we have a young side, maybe we could have done with an older head to slow things down'. Many of us were crying out for exactly that last summer.

JM may just be a slow learner-he may in the future prove to be a successful manager, and I wish him well.

DDFR, Arthur, and Co. have been around the block and back. Why in their advancing years and purported wisdom they opted for a 'rookie' has always mystified me, but it's never too late to learn.

I've said from day one, we will get promotion in spite of Jim, and I've taken a fair hammering for that opinion, but I stand by it.
mortonjag 2007-03-19 09:54:34
QUOTE(rex manning @ Mar 19 2007, 09:38 AM) [snapback]244721[/snapback]
If we can try not getting on their backs it might help.

You would imagine so RM, but on Saturday, we had a huge support who got right behind the lads, and when Gowser scored they all ran delightedly towards us. I'm afraid that the main problem does not lie with ourselves.
mortonjag 2007-03-19 09:58:51
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 19 2007, 09:45 AM) [snapback]244722[/snapback]
If we win the league this year, the chances are we are going to need 80+ points - we are still playing for 85. Now, if you get to the end of the season and just look at the bald statistics, that's pretty good. Only Gretna last season had more points and so Morton might look pretty stupid in the eyes of the footballing world getting rid of a manager who has won the league with that number of points.

I guess the fans, even this fan, are maybe able to look behind those stats and see

1) A manager who has a record of poor tactical awareness.
2) A manager who has a pool but does not use it. Jim does not seem to have heard of the expression 'horses for courses' He's also had a lot of luck in avoiding injuries.
3) A manager who does not seem to learn from his mistakes.

On the positive side, he does have an eye for a player and he does have the team superfit.

In my opinion it would be a huge mistake to change now but that also means, that, if we win promotion, we will have Jim next season too!

mortonjag 2007-03-19 10:01:43 I think we will win the championship outright. If we gain promotion by scrabbling up through the playoffs, I'll be happy enough, but either way, I believe JM's still far too inexperienced to take us further, and hopefully the Board can see that.
mortonjag 2007-03-19 10:15:52
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 19 2007, 09:56 AM) [snapback]244726[/snapback]
Probably the thing we all have in common is that we want the team to be promoted as champions. It seems to me that the only thing we as fans can do is stay behind them and give as much encouragement as possible to get them to stagger over the winning line. That does not mean that we don't see shortcomings and deficiencies but at this stage of the season, we have the players and the manager we have and its not going to change.

So, the original poster is right, if you are a true Morton fan, all you can do is stand foursquare behind the team. Calling for sackings/resignations, etc. at this stage will achieve nothing and just further demoralise the team where what is needed is to give them a lift.

The time for changes, whatever they may be, will be after the end of the season.

Totally agree-nobody at Scapa needs reminded about what's happening right now, and support on match days undoubtedly boosts the players confidence.

On that issue though, our forum stands apart. Although anyone can join, it is entirely at his own peril-if players, management, or even the Board become affected negatively by logging on, they don't need to do it a second time. We are not responsible for their actions in any way. The fans RESPOND to what they do-they do not dictate it.
mortonjag 2007-03-19 10:22:49
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 19 2007, 10:08 AM) [snapback]244732[/snapback]
If he showed a willingness to learn from his mistakes, I would be less concerned but we seem to have had the same mistakes repeated umpteen times this season.

I've said in another post this morning that JM may just be a slow learner, and that I wish him well. I remember the fable of the tortoise and the hare, but the problem is that by its very nature that's no sprint, and I'm getting too old to await the finish!
mortonjag 2007-03-19 10:28:03 If you're going to 'cut any ice' with this one, it might be better to start a 'votes only' poll, otherwise it will probably just descend into another bitching match. As you know, I support your motion.
mortonjag 2007-03-19 10:39:24
QUOTE(MIFTHEBINO @ Mar 19 2007, 10:32 AM) [snapback]244744[/snapback]
Hi guys,

Apoligies if we caused anyone offence on here by running the raffle. Like someone has pointed out, we paid for the shirt and it was through your commercial manager that we got it signed.It was also a Morton fan (Rosco) who donated the ball. First of all, many thanks again to them.

Our club isnt run well and as a supporter who travels to other grounds, I was embarrased that we couldn't even supply pies to our fans and visiting fans on a match day. I decided to raise money for this so that we can make the experince of visiting Forthbank for both sets of fans a little bit better.When the new pie oven is bought, this will benefit away fans as they will have a HOT, fresh pie if they choose to buy one.

I do agree that other charities should take priority (I was helping to raise money at the last home game with a bucket collection for Strathcarron Hospice (a local cancer hospice), but no one was raisning money this week and we took advantage of that.As other say, you had the chose to buy a raffle ticket and if you didnt agree, then you didnt have to buy one- you weren't forced.

Anyway, in total we raised £169 from the Morton fans (£129 profit after paying for the shirt) and £490-62 all together. Many thanks to everyone who bought tickets, hopefully we will be in the same division as you guys next season and you get the benefit to. We have now raised £760 and are more than half way there to our target of £1200.

On the raffle number- I cant remember the number for the shirt (I'm sure it was green 361-365), but the woman collected the shirt straight away. The number for the ball was yellow 27, the Morton fan collected the ball from the reception area after the game.

Good morning Mif, and apologies for the comments of some of our fans. I think they were maybe a wee bit 'miffed' after that daylight robbery. The Binos do not have anything like our fanbase and facilities, and you've still managed to do yourselves real credit this season. I guess the only sad thing is that we can't both be winners. That'll come home to roost next season as Mr Moore guides us effortlessly into the SPL! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-19 10:42:09
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 19 2007, 10:38 AM) [snapback]244746[/snapback]
Yeah, I have to agree with that after saturday. Fair-doos to you, you've been saying that all season.

A slice of humble pie for me. :-(

Pals then? smile.gif .....


...until my next post!!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-19 10:45:37
QUOTE(Ice Cube @ Mar 19 2007, 10:38 AM) [snapback]244747[/snapback]
Little ****. Why don't you go and hump a hole in a tree trunk bitch.

I'd fight for Britain, no hesitation. Doesn't make me any less Scottish. And before you ask, yes, I was American but Cube's been here following Morton so long I now consider myself Scottish yo.

United in the face of a common enemy-it's what man has always done Cube-good post.
mortonjag 2007-03-19 11:16:23
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 18 2007, 11:53 PM) [snapback]244666[/snapback]
When I saw that Stirling took him on loan I feared that he was one guy who had proved it at a higher level in the past .OK he maybe a loose cannon but he is obviously determined to show he has what it takes .

nothing 'loose' about Saturday's! sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-19 11:21:41
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Mar 19 2007, 11:03 AM) [snapback]244759[/snapback]
With a bit of luck we can keep this discussion sensible.

Sure Jim has made mistakes, when's the last time you made a mistake? Jim's an apprentice manager we knew that when he came to us. So he is bound to make mistakes. The question here is how long do we give him before he's classed as a journeyman and his mistakes are less forgiven and forgotten.

We all started somewhere in our careers and it took us all time to get to a level of proficiency. It doesn't matter if your a doctor or an electrician we all go through a learning period and all make mistakes.

The question we now have to ask ourselves is when does that learning period end. We have a manager with us who has taken us to the top of the league. Do we just discard him as he is approaching the end of his apprenticeship and may very well turn in to a excellent journeyman then start all over again.

I'm not trying to make any comparison, from a management point of view, but when Alex Ferguson went to Man U the fans were calling for his head because he wasn't as successful as they demanded. Now they are s***tin themselves for the time when he will have had enough.

I think we have got to give Jim the opportunity to prove us all either right or wrong depending on your opinion. Right now we are top of the league with an excellent chance of being promoted out of a league where everybody either raises their game against us or are just hell bent in stopping us scoring at all costs.

So lets stick by the manager and give him our support I'm sure he needs it just as much as the team. Until he fails we should not be even considering looking for a replacement.

Anecdote:
There was an employee who committed a major screw-up, costing the company £100,000. He told his boss about it to avoid further damage, and then promptly offered to pack his bags for making such a stupid blunder. "You are going to fire me over this, aren't you" the employee asked? "Are you kidding", his boss answered. "After just spending £100,000 on your education, why would I even think of firing you?"

.... and the next week he did exactly the same, and the boss sadly agreed enough was enough!

It's a sensible post, and I don't really disagree with much you say. Just one point though-not all apprentices make it to journeyman status.
mortonjag 2007-03-19 11:27:29
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Mar 19 2007, 11:21 AM) [snapback]244769[/snapback]
Sorry but these type of posts do my box in. Its all part of the pantomine of football when a player reacts to the crowd, i personally love it! The whole game we gave Snodgrass, their subs at half time, Hogarth and more, absolute dogs abuse. So what if they want to wind us up when the score or win, all this mince "could have incited a riot"! Eric Cantona fly-kicked a supporter in the face and i never saw a riot, so there is hardly likely to be one if someone gives the Morton fans the pipes.

Indeed. I was watching all the players doing the warm up. While our lads were performing the usual pathetic Martin Clark ballet routine which has become synonymous with snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, big Cramb (who was only a sub), was lying on the grass-gallus as f*ck-joking away with his team mates as though he didn't have a care in the world. Maybe he knew what was coming!
mortonjag 2007-03-19 11:34:33
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 19 2007, 10:47 AM) [snapback]244753[/snapback]
I have thought about this over the weekend and although I am perhaps a lone voice, I think I can maybe see at least part of what Jim was thinking on Saturday.

Before the first substitution, we were coasting along 1-0 up, but it was obvious that Stirling had raised their game a lot and we seemed to be losing it a bit in midfield, and it was all turning a bit scrappy with poor clearances and the ball being given away a lot. I said to Cappielow Crazy that it was Deano time - I take the view that Dean isn't the most skilful player but he does get stuck in, and what we needed, in my view, was an enforcer to stifle Stirling's increasing midfield presence. I would therefore agree with bringing on Keenan.

Where I diverge from Jim's view, however, is that I wouldn't have taken off Stevenson. I think probably I'd have taken off Miller or maybe McLaughlin (although to me he's a ball winner but not the best creatively). If I wanted to change the forwards, I'd have swapped McGowan for Linn, although actually I wouldn't because McGowan was doing fine. I certainly wouldn't have taken off Templeman - he was everyfeckingwhere on Saturday, had at least 3 defensive clearances, (including one where he shepherded the ball out like a Franz Beckenbauer), and he holds the ball up well in attack.

Deano let us down with the predictable lunger for the foul from which they scored (although the ref caused it by getting in the way of a break just before that), but He did add a bit of dig, and I think all that's needed is for Deano to be made aware that he doesn't have to get to every ball first - he needs to learn better judgement and hang back when it is of advantage). To take him off again was ridiculous, although I assume Jim had to go for broke and thus send on Kevin to boost our attack.

I thought Linn was mediocre, and frankly I haven't seen anything from him so far to make me think he's good enough - one easy headed goal against Ayr and that's about it. I know he only get a short time but I hope we haven't seen the best of him. He should be good but we seem to knock the talent out of strikers - Alex Williams looked good at one point! It doesn't suit us to have Linn and McGowan as our strikers, too similar IMHO and too small, so maybe Temps and Linn should get a start together next Sunday.

I think McInally screwed up on Saturday, and I'm sure he knows it. What worries me is that he did more or less the same thing against Stranraer away, when we were coasting to a win, and we lost 2 late goals there too. Which does beg questions about our defence, especially in the centre.

I think Jim will become a good manager but he needs to learn from mistakes. I don't think calling for him to be sacked is helpful, but maybe he needs someone to advise him and guide him. I reckon he actually has a good tactical brain as was shown earlier in the season, but maybe he needs to learn that if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Or on Saturday, if it's only a wee bit broke, don't try to fix it too much and at least do the correct repair.

We have a tough run in with aways at Raith and Brechin. The team needs to perform well for 90 minutes every game - and that means we need Jamie kept on for the full game. It may cost money for some reason, but what's the point of a player who only gets an hour to do his stuff? Only if we are 3 or more ahead should he come off.

Alibi, I agree with most of your succinct resume, but would this 'person' whom you'd like to advise and guide him not simply be better occupied in his shoes?
mortonjag 2007-03-19 11:39:49
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Mar 19 2007, 11:07 AM) [snapback]244761[/snapback]
Bal'loon. Has it burst?

It would appear so-sometimes my multi lingual talents let me down-just like a burst 'ballon'! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-19 11:44:35
QUOTE(steve-ton @ Mar 19 2007, 11:41 AM) [snapback]244778[/snapback]
Personally I would have put on Walker for McLaughlin. I like McLaughlin but he was shocking on Saturday. I think the only reason he took off Templeman was because of the yellow card, but again this was a mistake as we needed someone at that stage of the game capable of holding the ball up. I also thought we sat far too deep in the second half and invited Stirling on to us, which is just asking for trouble. I thought we would have been better really going for it in the first 15 mins of the 2nd half as they were there for the taking, and I think we would have been comfortable defending a 2 or 3 goal in the last half hour. Ultimately I think McInally's subs & tactics in the 2nd half cost us 3 points on Saturday.

I agree with all of your points.

How unusual! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-19 11:48:41
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 19 2007, 11:44 AM) [snapback]244781[/snapback]
Mortonjag: No, I think Jim will become an excellent manager given more experience. I don't know what his after-match comments were, but I would hope that he would admit that his subs were not well-judged. I hope he is prepared to admit when he's got it wrong - like last time at Stirling when he admitted playing Kevin as a striker was a mistake. I think we should stick with him. We have a history in recent years of destroying managers and I think we actually have a good one at the moment - it's just that he is still learning.

Also, if Deano hadn't made that lunge, we'd probably have gone on to win. That was really the turning point.I like Deano as a player and I think we need someone like him in our team, although he needs to stay a bit cooler. He's not the most skilful but he is a trier, more of a clumsy Billy Bremner than a Chris Miller if that's not too ridiculous a comparison!

BTW I remain unconvinced by Mathers. I still haven't seen him save a direct shot on goal, or at least not one where he actually had to make a save as opposed to catching the ball. I don't know if he had any chance with either of the goals, but he doesn't convince me as being a shot stopper. And I think Harding has to stop wandering out to the wings - he has full backs to hang around there.

He blamed the players youth and lack of experience, and commented that an 'old head' would have settled them down.

I've said elsewhere that he may become a good manager with time Alibi, but the club is in the red, and DDFR's benevolence is not infinite. Time is, therefore, not on our side.
mortonjag 2007-03-19 12:41:06 Very little has been asked of our keepers throughout the season. Even young Gonet, whom I don't rate highly at all, managed to come through reasonably well, largely because he wasn't called on for heroics.

I'd prefer to see the Mathers - McGurn debate put on hold. They are both competent keepers, and the former is undeniably more experienced. It's easy to make assessments on paper, and you can replay a video, but you can't put one goalie on for ninety minutes, take him off, and ask a second to deal with the identical situation.
mortonjag 2007-03-19 12:49:00
QUOTE(steve-ton @ Mar 19 2007, 12:40 PM) [snapback]244809[/snapback]
Good idea I would maybe drop McAllister and play McGowan wide left tho

Jimbo's hardly had a 'mensh' for ages. Maybe it's because in the last few weeks he's been a bitter disappointment.

The trouble is that the options and permutations are almost endless. On current form, all I'm certain about, leaving the defence out of it, is that Sanny and Linn should start together, and Gowser and Jamie should play. As for the rest-I don't think it matters in the slightest.
mortonjag 2007-03-19 12:58:26
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Mar 19 2007, 12:33 PM) [snapback]244804[/snapback]
Aye, and that did us a whole lot of good on Saturday, didn't it? blink.gif

He may not be frightened to put a tackle in, but it helps if you can actually win the ball, or pass, or shoot, or have any positional sense, or look remotely like a football player at all.

Players like Dean Keenan are not going to get us into the first division.

How many starts has Keenan had this season, and how many MOTM awards has he had from US?

It's easy to criticise his bad points, and ignore that what midTONs is saying, when the truth is that all bloody season we've been crying out for a player who is willing to take a game 'by the scruff of its neck' and put it to bed.
mortonjag 2007-03-19 13:02:56
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Mar 19 2007, 12:57 PM) [snapback]244818[/snapback]
Under achieving big time... we've been top of the league since the third game of the season. I wouldn't say that staying top of the league for 27 games is under achieving. Like people have said, we can't win every game and it's down to our good form at the start of the season and in Dec/Jan/Feb that we are still top of the league.

Plus, you say he should go even if we do win the league as he has failed twice already, so you would keep a manager who has failed to win promotion twice and then sack him the minute he wins the league?

YES Iain, that's what's being said. It's NOT just the final product that needs assessed-achievements of any kind have to be looked at relatively. We started the season as Bookie's favourites by a country mile, and now we've all had to learn how to pray again.

As the Binos fans were singing-'Top of the league-yer havin' a laff'.
mortonjag 2007-03-19 13:15:25
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 19 2007, 12:54 PM) [snapback]244816[/snapback]
What about him being top scorer...

Bryan, you're too young to remember the famous Adamson, Stevenson, Caven, McGraw, and Wilson forward line, of the days when football was football and men were men.

Every single one of those guys scored quite a few goals in our most successful season.

Adamson and Wilson were out and out wingers, who would occasionally turn inside and have a pot.

Stevenson was a silky mid field creator-like Gowser's shaping up to be, but he still scored plenty. Nobody ever thought of him as a 'striker'.

Joe Caven never got enough credit as the target man for Mcgraw, who was the 'striker' supreme, yet with the number of goals he banged in, nowadays everybody would claim he too was a 'striker'.

It's all too easy to confuse 'goal scorer' with 'striker', but once you realise what a 'striker' is, you can spot one a mile away-oh and he was sitting on the bench for a long time at Stirling.
mortonjag 2007-03-19 13:19:35
QUOTE(Pat SharpTon @ Mar 19 2007, 01:07 PM) [snapback]244826[/snapback]
Sacking Jim at this stage would be absurd. He needs until the end of the season and I'm sure, if we don't go up, he won't be here after that. Those calling for Allan Moore to replace Jim are insane. I don't think Moore would do the business at Cappielow at all.

Those calling for Moore to replace JM may well have been DRIVEN insane by the latter's incompetence. Moore has achieved a great deal from very little. Could you please expand on your opinion?
mortonjag 2007-03-19 13:30:57
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 19 2007, 12:59 PM) [snapback]244821[/snapback]
If the long ball tactic has become the favourite of the team and the manager, it's hard to criticise a winger. If those are the tactics then an extra player in the middle would be more effective. Not really Jim's fault though if he can't get involved in the game because of tactics.

I rate Jimbo highly, but he IS NOT a left winger, and would tell you that himself. Just another victim of the JM recipe for upside down cake.

This excludes central defenders, one target man, and goalie BTW.

Take seven able and fit young midfielders

Place in a large mixing bowl, and stir vigorously

Spoon out onto a slightly greasy football pitch

Place in a hot oven at 3 p.m. on a Saturday afternoon

...and, with any luck you'll produce a lovely JM upside down cake..oh that's not turned out as I expected-well here's one I prepared earlier-funny-I could have sworn the recipe was identical.

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mortonjag 2007-03-19 14:24:47
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 19 2007, 01:28 PM) [snapback]244831[/snapback]
i know that but the poster of this topic wants him dropped.

He's on form and should not be dropped, but there were times when I'd have given him a wee rest.
mortonjag 2007-03-19 14:33:15
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Mar 19 2007, 01:39 PM) [snapback]244839[/snapback]
Looks like you were wrong.

Now more than at any time of the season is a time to pull together and cheer our club over the finish line.

Sack the manager!!! In the name of sanity that's the last thing we should do.
COME ON THE TON.

That's just being silly-only 9% have given full backing as against over 80% in the 'Taxi for McInally' poll.

Very few are going to vote for the third option, simply because of the tone, and although I've been one of JM's biggest critics, I certainly didn't.
mortonjag 2007-03-19 14:56:40
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 19 2007, 02:39 PM) [snapback]244877[/snapback]
I only said he was right about McInally being tactically inept, not that I liked him or liked how he puts his sanctimonious point across.

But you will come round eventually? smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-19 14:59:59
QUOTE(jpmil @ Mar 19 2007, 12:51 PM) [snapback]244814[/snapback]
In Friday's Telegraph JM is quoted as saying that he loves the "pressure". Well he must be really enjoying himself now, because he is surely under severe pressure not to be at the helm of another failed promotion challenge.
As I said on another thread, the most worrying thing is that he doesn't seem to learn from his earlier tactical blunders.

It's obvious in that case that Jim doesn't see himself as the cause of the pressure, which is what I've suspected all along, and therein lies the entire problem. He's doing his level best, and either everybody's scared to criticise, or, worse, he's blind to criticism.
mortonjag 2007-03-19 15:04:11
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Mar 19 2007, 02:37 PM) [snapback]244875[/snapback]
The Jag has subconsciously hit upon the problem there - Stirling do not have a hot oven! - hence the unexpected result.... tongue.gif laugh.gif rolleyes.gif

A half baked performance-it must be said!
mortonjag 2007-03-19 15:22:28
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Mar 19 2007, 03:02 PM) [snapback]244891[/snapback]
well said !

if people are so disgusted by what they're watching every week why the f*** do they go back ?

oh, and BTW there's never been a team in the history of football that deserves to, and does win every game like some folk on here seem to expect from morton. mad.gif

For the simple reason that they're Ton fans-they don't support a manager, or even players for that matter, who are ultimately mercenaries, and come and go.

Don't forget, the Binos are still trailing us, but I don't hear any of their fans complaining-tell me why that is?

I'll tell you this beermonkey, if I had splashed out cash like DDFR has, and facilitated the assembly of a full time squad, with state of the art training facilities, who started the season as runaway favourites, and who are acknowledged by other managers to be technically 'well ahead', only to see them repeatedly throw away games, I'd be f*cking furious.

I certainly can accept being beaten fair and square by the better team on the day, but how often has that actually happened? We've controlled arguably every league match we've played this season, yet now at the final hurdle we still can't turn superiority into points with any consistency, and part timers are breathing down our necks.

I take it from your post, that contrary to the swing in opinion, you still believe JM can 'cut the mustard'.
mortonjag 2007-03-19 15:29:57
QUOTE(Savo @ Mar 19 2007, 03:16 PM) [snapback]244904[/snapback]
I'd suggest that you are the one who cannot read.

I asked you a civilised question, you replied back with a smug remark and I picked up on that to ask why. What was posted by me had nothing whatsoever to do with Bryan.

If anyone needs help it's you. Your last sentence just about shows what a self-obsessed cretin you really are.

You asked me what I regarded as an abysmally stupid question. My remark was factual-Gowser is not a striker, and black is not white. I'm getting sick and tired of being described in terms like yours just because I don't tolerate fools gladly.
mortonjag 2007-03-19 15:33:56
QUOTE(Roger Mellie @ Mar 19 2007, 03:23 PM) [snapback]244909[/snapback]
Paul McGowan's not a striker in the same way MortonJag isn't a chopper.

Mortonjag may vey well be a 'chopper' whatever that means to infantile little halfwits, but Gowser is NOT a striker. I quite enjoy being called affectionate names, but I object to crass stupidity.
mortonjag 2007-03-19 15:36:41
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Mar 19 2007, 03:33 PM) [snapback]244913[/snapback]
Nah, i guess you're all right, sack the useless f***er now, and take most of the waste-of-space wankers who're masquerading as players with him.
that'll be the boost we need to get us over the finish line !!! dry.gif

I've already stated unequivocally that I DON'T think he should be sacked at the moment.

I've consistently supported the players.

Would you care to answer my question now?
mortonjag 2007-03-20 06:56:44
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 19 2007, 06:35 PM) [snapback]245017[/snapback]
70 posts today and almost 14% of all posts made today - you must have been pretty bored over the last few days!

Good Morning, Tampax talons, and it looks fine outside.

Today I plan to finish decorating the big bedroom, make a casserole for our evening meal, finish off mitring and beading the new laminate in the porch, and replacing the old electric sockets in the lounge.

Right now I'm checking my wee daily focus of fun, before printing out the Herald crossword, which I usually complete in about 15 minutes (except Thursday's, which is a c*nt)! Then Mairi and I will have a light beakfast, before I drop her off at work, and back to my chores.
In the afternoon I'm nipping over to my Daughter in law's, as I have to deliver a gift to my oldest Grandchild (wee Eck).

In between, I'll check our website regularly, and occasionally pop in my tuppenceworth.

Moustache-need a s***.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 07:03:21
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 19 2007, 05:33 PM) [snapback]244973[/snapback]
AYE
Next question smile.gif

When are you taking over? smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-20 07:10:13 Can I tell all of you guys something, and I'm deadly serious?

If we go up to Station park with ONLY one thing in mind-to score a barrowload- WE WILL.

If JM could just go off for a week's holiday, which the poor sod clearly needs, it would make that task much easier.

Finally, for once, DDFR could do a wee Mileson, and put the boys on £200 each as a win bonus!

SO f*ckin' easy, AND it should have been like this all season.

Lighten up chaps-the Loons are in for a historic humping.

They've even got a bridie oven BTW. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-20 07:14:59 Why don't we lay off JM 'til after the Forfar game?

He's only been doing his best-of that I'm certain, and it's been clear for a long, long time that his best isn't good enough. We will hopefully have a new manager after we are promoted. We can then have a fresh start and so can Jim.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 07:16:37
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 19 2007, 06:58 PM) [snapback]245022[/snapback]
Which is EXACTLY why we should sack JM !!!

...and as I said elsewhere, you'll be waiting in the wings!
mortonjag 2007-03-20 07:21:26
QUOTE(froggybinos @ Mar 19 2007, 07:44 PM) [snapback]245044[/snapback]
Absolutle piss!!! If you have the best team in the league by miles, then why are we one point behind you? "We have a s***e gaffer in charge" i hear you say. A team includes the gaffer, the physio, the social co-ordinator, the bookie, etc...

I personally think you have some of the best players in the league yes, however, so do Stirling. Bell, Forsyth, Nugent, Snodgrass etc would get in any team in this league, and the fact is Stiling are a team, we have had loads of suspensions, injuries to key players (i.e. missing three of our normal back 4 last Saturday) and we've still went on.

I personally thionk Morton will win the league, probabaly by 8 or 9 points. However, to say you are miles better, or as the guy on Jim Traynors show said "we have been fantastic this season, Stirling are rubbish, a totally mediocre side" is frankly s***e.

We have potentially the best team in the league! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-20 07:24:03
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Mar 19 2007, 07:17 PM) [snapback]245031[/snapback]
MJ ? unsure.gif

Cover blown! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-20 07:51:36
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Mar 19 2007, 04:38 PM) [snapback]244948[/snapback]
In fact I'd say that all three options are says everything about this poll.

Paraphasing a little but,

Answer 1.
Admit you're a blind fool who should be taken outside and given a good kicking until you see 'sense'

Answer 2.
No matter how you think Jim's doing, it's obviously not good enough for a club that should be in Europe and he should be shoved out of the door come the end of May.

Answer 3.
My bottle has crashed!

Unfortunately there wasn't an option for none of the above, but even if there had been I'm sure that would have been spun by MortonJag to say '...we've all finally come round to his way of thinking...'

dry.gif ScotinBelgie

Scotty boy-there's no need for spin. You're stating the obvious!
mortonjag 2007-03-20 07:56:17
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 19 2007, 05:44 PM) [snapback]244982[/snapback]
Mortonjag keeps referring to Morton winning the league "inspite of the manager" (sorry i don't know who the original owner of this quote is) SO IF Morton win it "inspite of the manager" its best to sack him now, because if he isn't sacked and we DO win the league then we'll be going through all this crap again next year!!!!!

We all know hes learned nothing in 3 years so why give him another year for us to suffer the same frustrations??
In my opinion he had his chance 2 years ago !!! Remember - when all we had to do was beat Dumbarton at Cappielow - we drew 0-0 against a 10 man defense???? Think Annand played alone up front for them??
THAT was the defining moment of JMs managerial career with Morton and he FAILED.

To the best of my knowledge I originated the quote, and I stand by it. JM assembled a fit, and talented young squad, top heavy with midfielders, and lacking a general and players in key positions. He then assumed (correctly IMO) that they would be very difficult to beat, and that is borne out by the fact we ARE still top of the league, and WILL gain promotion-DESPITE doing it in a ridiculously difficult manner.

To sack him right now would, I am convinced, have a negative effect. For the time being our kids need 'the devil they know'.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 08:03:36 IMHO rolleyes.gif

MIllar and Stevenson do not compliment each other. Too many good midfielders falling over each other-the story of our season. Chris has been a great wee player for the club, but hasn't really been on best form for many weeks.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 08:08:55 If morale had been high yesterday sombody must have been dishing out the 'E's big style.

FFS what's the point in negativity THIS week-I REALLY MEAN IT.

All season I've been torn to shreds and branded 'doom and gloom' and 'negative'-JUST FOR STATING THE OBVIOUS.

It seems to have taken the Stirling debacle to finally get the message over, but c'mon guys-onwards and upwards. We're getting promotion and JM can go thereafter. This week it's got to be about positively humping the Loons 'rid raw'.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 08:11:48 Forget the Mathers-McGurn debate for now. If we attack Forfar all out we can put my wee pal on the left between the sticks.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 08:13:35
QUOTE(Harper McGhee @ Mar 19 2007, 11:02 PM) [snapback]245100[/snapback]
laugh.gif but not necessarily by Alex Ferguson.

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mortonjag 2007-03-20 08:17:19
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Mar 19 2007, 03:54 PM) [snapback]244924[/snapback]
I am not suggesting that anybody starts ahead of McGowan, I have simply asked a question due to my own ignorance or niavity.

I just wish to know if there is an underlying financial reson why McGowan gets a start every week and Linn gets about 15 minutes when we have spent a large amount of money to bring in a striker who was a top scorer for his previous club?

At the risk or repeating myself please re-read my initial question:

As part of the deal between Celtic and Morton do Morton have to start/play him a certain percentage of games in order to get a pay out or appearance fee or such like?[size="2"][/size]

Good day ya big clype!

Clearly nobody has an answer.

To me it's patently obvious that JM has extreme tunnel vision about certain players-not just Gowser. The fact that the former's an ex Celtic man and youth coach has obviously affected him too. If it hadn't he'd be superhuman-and he plainly ain't!
mortonjag 2007-03-20 08:51:39
QUOTE(piehutt @ Mar 19 2007, 11:52 PM) [snapback]245111[/snapback]
I think that is a great post.
Although you should also consider that Stirling's points total in any of the other leagues would be clear at the top so to still be ahead shows we are having a good season.
Also we have only taken 4 points from Stirling - albeit they have had the better of a dodgy pen at Scappa and edged out a close game on Saturday - and yet we are still notionally 3 points ahead.
So in games without Stirling we have obviously been well ahead of them.
I think that criticism is way off the mark - especially from someone who obviously aint been to more than a handful of games.
'the most tactically inept excuse of a manager' does not improve each season and get us to within touching distance of the title.
And to compare Dougie to our previous chairman is disgraceful. Ok, I'm not Dougies biggest fan - he is clearly more hands on than he needs to be and a bit cringeworthy - but his heart is most firmly in the right place and I'd rather see him in charge than have our previous chairman anywhere near the place.

I would hardly say there are deep rooted problems at Cappielow - winning a league is not supposed to be easy and we are making a good fist of it.

I would say I am optimistic but I'm sure you have to agree you'd rather be in Morton's position than Stirling's.

Final point - when was the last time we were ahead at the top of the league at this stage in a season? We will probably be 4 points clear with 6 games to go which I think is naw bad - ok could be better but given how unbelievably well Stirling have performed I think we're in a good position.

I actually thought TiD's summary was pretty incisive, and not inaccurate.

piehutt, you know my position on Ton issues very well, and I go to every game, home and away.

We have a chairman who dug us out of a hole-not for us, but for him. There's nothing wrong with that, as he's one of us in terms of allegiance.

Since then he's on his third manager, and this one's made a complete arse of something that should have been child's play. That has been obvious for four or five months, yet Rae has either not noticed, or has stuck to his guns in the hope that things would improve.

Well they have not.

Sacking the manager at this stage would be utterly poiintless, as we're going to creep over the championship winning line-JUST-IMO.

Thereafter-McINALLY MUST GO.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 08:57:36
QUOTE(ALBIONEES @ Mar 19 2007, 01:37 PM) [snapback]244837[/snapback]
Gentlemen,
I just wanted to apologise to anyone I wound up on Saturday evening with my posts.
It was a mixture of alcohol and post match euphoria.
I look forward to The Tons visits to Forthbank and its always a good game !!!
Big thanks to the guys who bought raffle tickets etc, we are a stuggling wee club and any little helps.
I hope you do well and get promoted along with ourselves because I feel the Albion and Ton are the best 2 sides in the division !!!
I sometimes wish we had such a loyal and hearty support especially at away games.
Thanks to all you guys who came along and made it a great day !!!!
Albionees

ps I still stand by my opinion that Templeman is a donkey !!!
tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

You obviously have 'inside' knowledge of donkeys-why don't you have a go at an 'ass' instead-it ain't illegal anymore. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-20 09:03:13
QUOTE(Roger Mellie @ Mar 19 2007, 03:34 PM) [snapback]244915[/snapback]
What you're trying to say then MortonJag is that you have a better footballing knowledge that Gordon Strachan who loaned McGowan out to us as a striker?

What World Cup did you play in?

Did you do your coaching badges at Largs ir elsewhere?

I think you're brilliant.

If Strachan thinks McGowan's a striker then fine, but I've not seen that Ginger nut at Scapa for a long, long time.

Gowser's developing into an great wee attacking midfielder. If you and your semi-intelligent buddies would see the big picture, you'd realise that a decent striker would have scored a barrowload by now in this team.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 09:05:53
QUOTE(Savo @ Mar 19 2007, 03:41 PM) [snapback]244919[/snapback]
How can a subjective remark be factual?

You seem to rate Allan Moore. Why don't you go and ask him what he thinks of Paul McGowan - and see if he thinks the boy is not a striker. You'll then be the one looking 'abysmally stupid'.

And if you don't want to be 'sick and tired' because you're getting stick then I'd suggest you refrain from referring to people you know nothing about as 'clowns'.

Oh I see.

Then here's another 'subjective remark'.

'Paul Mathers is a goalie'. Would you like me to start a poll-ya clown?
mortonjag 2007-03-20 09:09:15
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 19 2007, 03:45 PM) [snapback]244920[/snapback]
Exactly.

Mortonjag, how have you come to the conclusion that our top scorer with 14 goals isn't a striker ? I was at a christening yesterday and was talking to a boy from Airdrie who is mates with Paul McGowan and he said that even going back to his days with Airdrie he has always been a striker.

He is a 'goalscorer'-and a reasonably successful one. Denis Law scored tons of goals, but was NEVER regarded as a striker.

If we're only arguing over a definition, I've already given mine elsewhere, but I notice that none of my big mouthed opponents has ventured his.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 09:11:34
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 19 2007, 03:52 PM) [snapback]244923[/snapback]
Even if his greediness comes from being inexperienced that would still mean that he isn't suited to playing in midfield.

He is too small in height and lightweight physically to play in a midfield that also includes Chris Millar or Jamie Stevenson.

....AND his erstwhile mentor, a certain Mr Strachan. rolleyes.gif

Do you want to introduce a bloody 'weigh-in' before every match?
mortonjag 2007-03-20 09:13:04
QUOTE(Pat SharpTon @ Mar 19 2007, 03:55 PM) [snapback]244925[/snapback]
Half your age they may be Jag, but, sadly, twice your intellect. Gowza is most definitely a striker.

Dearie me-definition please-you are truly a stirrer of the finest quality! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-20 09:14:59
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Mar 19 2007, 05:15 PM) [snapback]244963[/snapback]
Silly old goat. smile.gif
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mortonjag 2007-03-20 09:22:50
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 19 2007, 05:38 PM) [snapback]244977[/snapback]
McGowan's goal on Saturday was a poachers goal.

I'm not saying he is a six yard box striker but he is still a striker, not a midfielder.

Correct, and one of VERY FEW poacher's goals he's scored.

FFS-now we have

1/ the 'six yard box' striker

2/ the 'penalty box' striker

3/ the 'outside the penalty box' striker

4/ the 'speculative lob from forty yards' striker

5/ the 'own goal' striker

6/ the 'goalie kicks it out and it ends in the other net' striker,


.....to name but six ways of getting goals

I forgot to mention 7/ the 'bounced in off Hardie's face, and knocked the wee c*nt out in the process striker'.

We could stop this ridiculous argument by having a definition of striker. As it stands, it apparently is taken to mean goalscorer, but not to me.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 09:25:40
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 19 2007, 11:17 PM) [snapback]245105[/snapback]
I know it was, and his goal against Killie debatably was as well... but he most often gets the ball around the half way line and if you ask me he does very well with it in a support role.

We'll have to agree to disagree because I think he'll make a great attacking midfielder (possibly as well as a striker) and unless he comes out and says he won't, I doubt I'll change my mind tongue.gif


IMO he already is, but because we have twice the decent midfielders we need at the expense of players in other positions, he's labelled 'striker' to save face, instead of playing a decent striker we've paid money for, and dropping someone to let Gowser go deeper.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 09:32:34
QUOTE(Roger Mellie @ Mar 20 2007, 09:20 AM) [snapback]245182[/snapback]
Strachan doesn't need to be at Cappielow to know where his own player plays best.

It just gets better.

In all seriousness, what is your definition of a striker? If it's not a goalscorer for example, is it just someone who can strike a ball hard or what?

Next thing we know we'll be talking about "half backs" and "inside lefts".

I have already defined a striker elsewhere, and if you'd had the wit to check before opening your gargantuan claptrap and spewing out the products of half a dozen white cells, you'd have found it.

NOW- R-SMELLIE-let's have yours. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-20 09:36:30
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 19 2007, 05:26 PM) [snapback]244968[/snapback]
Thats irony though isnt it???
Its like the one lass that votes for Chris Millar every week regardless of him being crap or injured or suspended !

With the POSSIBLE exception of the Peterhead game in Peterhead, Deano has been nowhere near man of the match in ANY of our games !

He played left back, and a stormer, at Cowdenbeath when they were still flying high, and was UNDOUBTEDLY MOTM there.

Keenan has a persona which doesn't endear everybody, but learn not just to judge a book by its cover.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 09:38:58
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 19 2007, 05:23 PM) [snapback]244967[/snapback]
I spoke to Craig McPherson at Hawkes testimonial and I asked him why he didnt speak to McInally about signing (i said we were crying out for a left back AND someone with experience). Craig said HE DID and JM told him he was ONLY looking to bring in YOUNG PLAYERS !!!!!!!!

JM is now looking like a liar as well as a hapless tacticion !

C B, we only have your word for that, but it seems to confirm exactly what's been SO wrong this season.

It's taken him 'til Saturday to admit (having run out of ideas I guess), that an 'old head' is a good idea.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 09:48:49
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Mar 20 2007, 07:45 AM) [snapback]245152[/snapback]
I hope you are qualified old yin, don't want you to get too many shocks at your vintage.

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mortonjag 2007-03-20 10:21:24 Why didn't she just ask him to do some more liposuction and this time make a proper arse of it?
mortonjag 2007-03-20 10:37:57
QUOTE(Roger Mellie @ Mar 20 2007, 10:19 AM) [snapback]245202[/snapback]
It doesn't take "wit" to check back. It was easier to ask. Once again though you decide to come across as a sad, cheeky old man rather than just answer a simple question.

My definition of a striker is someone who plays as a forward and scores goals. Hope that's simple enough for your ageing mind to comprehend.

Who's saving face calling himself a striker? Strachan? McInally? McGowan himself?

I'm not going to reply any more, i'm nearly sleeping as I waded through your latest p!sh. If you got any more to say to me then you can PM me.

Try and keep it short though, you're pretty boring after a few lines.

Och darling Roger, I wouldn't dream of upsetting your beauty sleep which I'm sure you need desperately.

A 'striker' is 'a forward' who scores goals'. Now maybe I'm asking a silly question, but how do you define 'a forward'.

You see, in the days when good football was played at Scapa, we always had five 'forwards'.

The wingers were 'forwards'. They nearly all scored goals, though some were better than others.

Then we had two 'inside forwards'. As often as not, one of them scored quite a few, and one was more defensive, but they ALL scored goals.

Then there was the 'centre forward', usually, but not always a big bustling guy who'd knock in as many with his head as his feet. He definitely scored goals.

I can't actually remember when the term 'striker' was coined, but it certainly incorporates an element of poaching, (which Gowser does not), harrying the goalie, (which Gowser always chooses to ignore), all round ability with both feet and the head (which Gowser has in only small measure), and lightning reflexes (which, if Gowser has, I've yet to see).

Add to that an instinctive predatory nature, the ability to spot defensive slips, and attacking opportunities early, and always being 'in the right place at the right time'.

As I have said now repeatedly, that is MY perception of a 'striker'. If you seriously MEAN 'a forward who scores goals', I genuinely apologise.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 11:20:03
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 20 2007, 10:24 AM) [snapback]245206[/snapback]
I was at the Gretna-Morton reserve game a few weeks back, and Jim McInally was there, in the dugout, so it is incorrect to say he doesn't go to reserve games.

Get off his back, he's doing his best. FFS, do you want us to be unable to find a manager because everyone slags off every manager we've ever had? McInally is streets ahead of the likes of Dave McPherson and I think you should all get behind him for the final few games. Criticism and recriminations should be kept private - let's sort out our problems without splashing it all over the internet. He makes mistakes, but anyone who doesn't make mistakes makes nothing. We are lucky to have a young manager who has great potential and all you can do is snipe at him rather than encourage him. You sure know how to get the best out of employees - I'm pretty sure you don't run your own business....

I think that we've got to the stage of going round in circles-for that reason I agree with the first point.

As far as I'm concerned, this is a FANS' forum where we can let off steam, INSTEAD of barracking manager and players. It's none of their business any more than their private lives is ours.

Your point about running a business is a bit ironic Alibi. If JM had any ability to motivate and get the best from his staff on a consistent basis, we'd all be happy chappies.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 11:23:01
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Mar 20 2007, 10:50 AM) [snapback]245222[/snapback]
no chance, i heard the man u board have earmarked him to take over from fergie biggrin.gif

that's if real madrid dont make him an offer first.

It appears that nobody can keep a secret those days.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 11:26:08
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Mar 20 2007, 10:45 AM) [snapback]245218[/snapback]
the only player i can think of (off the top of my head anyway) who has all those abilities is alan shearer, and you don't get many players of his ability in the scottish second division.

Exactly!
mortonjag 2007-03-20 11:28:16
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 20 2007, 10:48 AM) [snapback]245221[/snapback]
That sounds about right.

And MJ, remember he did poach on Saturday, and IMO his reflexes are quite good, just his understanding with Temps isn't (yet.)

He scored an excellent 'striker's goal' on Saturday. That was rather unusual.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 11:33:54
QUOTE(rex manning @ Mar 20 2007, 11:14 AM) [snapback]245231[/snapback]
I wanted to see McGowan play in the hole behind temps and Linn, but since McInally has finally played Jamie through the middle im quite happy to leave it as is. I do agree with Morton Jag though, i see McGowan as more an attacking midfielder than a striker. We never have anyone in the box, unless its at a corner.

It breaks my heart to see the number of good head flicks and 'touch ons' from Sanny that just find empty space. The same applies to countless inviting balls from various players across the face of goalmouth.

We need a STRIKER to capitalise on those, not somebody who scores a few goals over the course of a season. I've yet to see what I regard a a genuine striker who doesn't chase the ball when the goalie's about to collect. Gowser never looks interested-that tells me volumes. He's much more comfortable coming from deep-sure he's a bit greedy right now, but I see the makings of an excellent old fashioned 'inside forward'.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 12:38:48
QUOTE(froggybinos @ Mar 20 2007, 12:12 PM) [snapback]245264[/snapback]
True

...and the Binos have the best system in the league. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-20 13:36:58
QUOTE(Ice Cube @ Mar 19 2007, 03:05 PM) [snapback]244895[/snapback]
No, you're sounding like a c*** sucking faggot.

Edit to add: I have a male chicken. It's a c***.

Edit again to add: My c*** is upset that you have branded him and all his other c*** friends a swear word. Whoever's running this board is a c***.

didn't you mean a p***k rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-20 13:59:21
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 20 2007, 01:16 PM) [snapback]245287[/snapback]
Too right, I'm going to Hampden on Saturday and am meant to be arranging meeting points and a drinking sesh in The Shed, but I cant be ar$3d and cant think of anything else but Sunday :-(

Oh my God. You drink in the 'Shed'. Too, too close to ma wee hoose for comfort! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-20 14:05:31
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Mar 20 2007, 01:20 PM) [snapback]245288[/snapback]
Maybe Jim was just tryin to be kind to Hagi, it's nicer to hear "No thanks, we're looking for younger players" than "No thanks, I'll play my dog at left back because he is better than you, you over the hill has-been."

I agreed along with everyone else that a good holding midfielder was required (age is irrelevant, experience is preferential though not a necessity) to complete the squad. However, there were not many realistic targets in the transfer market with McInnes the only player to be really linked, even then some on here were saying he was finished! He's been brilliant for St Johnstone this season. It is not easy to just buy a player. At this level, a players location has a bearing, so that rules out most players North of say Perth and South of Ayr because they probably won't want to travel nor are they likely to take a step down (ruling out half the first division players). Then the issue of a fee and the players wage demands. Finally and most importantly, finding the player for that position and of the required quality is not easy. Combining all these factors therefore makes it decidedly difficult to bring in the right player.

Can anyone suggest any player who could fill the defensive midfield role that we would have a strong chance of getting?

C'mon man-it's the bloody second division. Surely there must have been somebody who would have been able to do the job, and jump at full time wages. I honestly believe it was not in the equation.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 14:10:50
QUOTE(Savo @ Mar 20 2007, 01:48 PM) [snapback]245301[/snapback]
Haha, that's your best reply yet.

Start a poll if you like. You seem to have plenty of time on your hands to do so. It's just a shame you spend most of it busting everybody's balls on here talking relentless drivel.

You are a blustering old fool.

FFS Savo that's old hat. Try and think of something really nasty-something that will make my blood boil, and send me rushing to the medicine cupboard for a couple of 'blues'.

Now, I'm off for some more DIY, and before you start, the new mod doesn't let you write 'w**king'
mortonjag 2007-03-20 14:13:18
QUOTE(Roger Mellie @ Mar 20 2007, 01:49 PM) [snapback]245302[/snapback]
I accept your apology MortonJag.

Not at all! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-20 14:15:18
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 20 2007, 02:14 PM) [snapback]245314[/snapback]
Don't flatter yourself old man. rolleyes.gif

My mate's a bouncer at the shed! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-20 14:21:19
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Mar 19 2007, 01:46 PM) [snapback]244842[/snapback]
The third option says everything about this poll. Calm down, accept that there will be no change before the end of the season and start biting your nails. We're going to win it.

The poll has been couched in very naughty and emotive terms, but it reflects a huge swing in opinion since the last.

Furthermore, it did not offer an option for those who'd like JM to go after the season's over, irrespective of whether or not we go up.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 15:13:07
QUOTE(Montymellor @ Mar 20 2007, 02:16 PM) [snapback]245318[/snapback]
Please post your favourite/best curry recipe here.

Cheers...Monty

Best bet is to avail yoursel of the 'Korma Sutra'- a wee booklet from the Harlequin group. Great recipes and tips, and extremely funny too!
mortonjag 2007-03-20 15:14:16
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 20 2007, 02:21 PM) [snapback]245322[/snapback]
and?

....man-you can't miss her! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-20 15:16:47
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Mar 20 2007, 02:39 PM) [snapback]245331[/snapback]
Correct, as I mentioned, many players do not want to move house and travelling from the Borders every day would be hard-going. QOS offered a more viable alternative.
Gretna will have offered more wages and money talks.

Correct, but not all is well in llama land. I'll bet DDFR could get him here if he was wanted enough.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 15:58:38 Sad indeed.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 16:00:48
QUOTE(ALBIONEES @ Mar 20 2007, 02:40 PM) [snapback]245332[/snapback]
sad.gif QUOTE(ALBIONEES @ Mar 19 2007, 01:37 PM)
Gentlemen,
I just wanted to apologise to anyone I wound up on Saturday evening with my posts.
It was a mixture of alcohol and post match euphoria.
I look forward to The Tons visits to Forthbank and its always a good game !!!
Big thanks to the guys who bought raffle tickets etc, we are a stuggling wee club and any little helps.
I hope you do well and get promoted along with ourselves because I feel the Albion and Ton are the best 2 sides in the division !!!
I sometimes wish we had such a loyal and hearty support especially at away games.
Thanks to all you guys who came along and made it a great day !!!!
Albionees

ps I still stand by my opinion that Templeman is a donkey !!!

mmm must be what they serve at Cappielow instead of pies ??? Maybe we should have a raffle to get them a sh***e
warmer for match days
Bite my s***e

Back to the alcohol induced euphoria I see-I'd rather chew on a three day old Sanny turd than one of you mingin' cold pies any day. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-20 16:04:02
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Mar 20 2007, 03:23 PM) [snapback]245343[/snapback]
Is he hoot, he is a dirty big blue nose! Plus his old man hates Morton coz he used to play with them and they booted him out for being mince. Gretna offered Neil double what Motherwell or St Mirren did plus a house to stay in while he is there, so yeh money talks! I'll tell you who is a massive Ton fan though Andy Graham of Stirling (Stirling No. 5 on Sat), used to go to all the Ton games before be signed with Glasgow Ams & then Stirling.

Aye but maybe Neil junior likes to 'Dae it himsel'!
mortonjag 2007-03-20 16:07:34
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 20 2007, 03:36 PM) [snapback]245347[/snapback]
Certainly the best performance I've seen from him this season.

Eh?!!!

He played OK on Saturday, but had some cracking matches going forward much earlier in the season IMO.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 16:10:06 Seven pages-would anyone like to confirm or deny that Deano lumped the boss's beano? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-20 17:18:51
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Mar 20 2007, 04:19 PM) [snapback]245362[/snapback]
From where I was seated it looked like Keenan said something to Jim and Jim showed him the back of his hand. The fact that Dean remained in the dugout until the final whistle would suggest it was nothing more than a heated exchange.

We were sitting directly opposite, and I said to my brother that it looked like Deano was angry and mouthing off, and it was JM who kind of pushed him away-but of course that's the width of the pitch and more.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 17:27:57
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Mar 20 2007, 04:24 PM) [snapback]245367[/snapback]
SPIN!!!!

Based on the naughty and emotive language used, you cannot compare this poll with the previous results. I'm not saying that there hasn't been a swing, but that's a straight red card for spin.

As for stating the obvious I assume you meant my paraphasing of answer 3. tongue.gif

cool.gif ScotinBelgie


MORE SPIN THEN biggrin.gif

The results of the poll would suggest a different perception of JM from that in the 'Taxi' thread.

The former may have been influenced in its objectivity by anger at detractors more than by clear thinking. The latter, on the other hand, is overtly scathing, and dismissive of the manager, yet has returned a mere 11% in his favour.

Even allowing for unquantifiable variables, it would appear that the former supported JM, and that the latter does not.

Polls, of course, are notoriously unreliable, and the poster suggests that this one is probably in that category! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-20 17:34:24
QUOTE(moby @ Mar 20 2007, 05:05 PM) [snapback]245377[/snapback]
theres no surprise there, mclaughlin is crap! he is long over due a stint on the bench and give alex walker a run out.

Scott is far from crap. he does a power of work in every game, and as a defensive midfielder, nobody reads the game better, or sweeps up more efficiently. That's why JM sticks with him. In terms of creativity, he's useless, and is as predictable as f*ck to watch.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 17:36:15
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Mar 20 2007, 05:10 PM) [snapback]245380[/snapback]
I don't get it? Neil snr. never owned the shop in Dunoon called 'Dae it Yerself' i don't think, although he did own the blue chip organisation McFarlane Sports (later changed to Rainbow Sports i think!)

He's served me in 'Dae it Yersel' more than once, unless I'm very much mistaken.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 18:03:03
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 20 2007, 05:42 PM) [snapback]245392[/snapback]
Well that may be true because i've only been to about 6 or 7 games this season rolleyes.gif

Fringe supporter. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-20 18:07:04
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 20 2007, 05:43 PM) [snapback]245393[/snapback]
He was hopeless in the second half on saturday.

I'm far from a McLaughlin fan, but to say he's 'crap' is silly.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 18:09:52
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 20 2007, 07:22 AM) [snapback]245146[/snapback]
Hope I'm totally wrong, but I'm going for a draw or a defeat.

...and you think the SNP can run Scotland!!!!!
mortonjag 2007-03-20 20:24:07
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 20 2007, 07:56 PM) [snapback]245462[/snapback]
Is this anything to do with Osasuna V Rangers ?

Munx says that obtuse.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 20:43:35 Every single time I've criticised DDFR I've had the usual cynical comments, and occasionally I've even been accused of sacrilege.

This may seem trivial at first glance, but coming from a man who is quick to lambast anything which he regards as 'not quite the done thing', his unedited programme notes bespeak someone who is either losing it, or perhaps never quite had it in the first place.

I shouldn't need to say several years down the line that I'm grateful for his financial support, but I get more and more infuriated every time he moans about lack of income, and dwindling support, when HE'S ultimately responsible for our third year in this loss making quagmire.

Could it be that 'Old Shoogly' takes a devious pleasure in still being needed like children need their 'Mummy'?

I squirm when I see him trackside on a Saturday afternoon, tossing his squashed bags of 'Millions' seconds to the adoring weans, before 'lording it' in hospitality two hours later.

It seems incredible that the other directors don't seem to have any clout at all-why are they so quiet?

I've suggested several times that, critical as I am of JM, he may NOT have full authority when it comes to picking the team, or signing players. Certainly the obsession with youngsters seems to be his, but Rae deserves his arse felt for failing to insist on an injection of experience last 'closed season'.

He who pays the piper calls the tune indeed.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 20:48:13 Alan Moore's left JM standing, and there are others in the lower divisions who have made much from very little. We DON'T need a big name, nor need we spend a fortune.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 20:52:49 We will hobble in as champions with one game left to play.

St James of the Immaculate Gameplan will be rapidly restored to his heavenly throne by 90% of our posters.

DDFR will make a public announcement, in which he praises the manager to the hilt, and announces a new three year contract.

I will have a fatal 'hearty' and leave the rest of you to get on with it. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-20 20:54:31
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 20 2007, 06:59 PM) [snapback]245435[/snapback]
Obviously I know more about politics than football wink.gif

Obviously you know nothing about either! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-20 21:03:04
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 20 2007, 08:21 PM) [snapback]245471[/snapback]
On the quote that Jim was in more pain was that due to being hit by Deano ?
How can he say he has sleepless nights when in last weeks Telegraph he was credited with saying he was relishing the pressure . Guess thats what we have come to expect no wonder the team has no direction at times .
Its McInally double talk , from the side coming of age to we lack an old head to put their foot on the ball .

Bobby's appearances have been limited and obviously he wants to have a good start to his career at the club . Strikers thrive on confidence but he won't get that with sparse appearances .
I see Dougie coming across to give us the speech but its not us that have resided over another error littered season.

He does appear to open his mouth and let his belly rumble-further evidence of a man bereft of imagination, and with absolutely no sense of direction.

I realise that at this stage the poor bugger's on a 'hiding to nothing', and have stated elsewhere that he IS doing his best, but after promotion is secured, HE MUST GO.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 21:08:05
QUOTE(moby @ Mar 20 2007, 07:53 PM) [snapback]245459[/snapback]
its not really, he was out injured and we were playing well and getting results then when he's fit again put straight back into a winning team (which shouldnt have happened) and the form starts to go! im not blaming it on one player but why change a winning team

I don't think we have a single player in the WHOLE SQUAD whom I'd describe as 'crap'.

That's the point I was trying to make.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 21:09:09
QUOTE(Zutons @ Mar 20 2007, 09:06 PM) [snapback]245504[/snapback]
Forfar please can you order 600 pies laugh.gif

Bridies make Zutons sick! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-20 21:10:26
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 20 2007, 09:08 PM) [snapback]245509[/snapback]
Come off it you , I'm partial to the odd wind up , but that is too far . No way will DDFR show that kind of faith in JM he'll be lucky to get a rolling contract . Too many errors to justify giving him that kind of contract .
Personally the length of contract extension he deserves is about the same amount of time you were put in the quiet corner laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2007-03-20 21:15:31
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Mar 20 2007, 09:08 PM) [snapback]245507[/snapback]
Yes maam !

and btw MJ, When we go up, the wave of euphoria will ensure that Jim is given a decent bash at the First Division. You surely don't believe otherwise ? ( not that I'm trying to belittle his opinion , Lush )

I said a couple of weeks ago of JM that 'he who does not learn from his mistakes is condemned to relive them'.

That applies to the Board also. They have a choice-either bin him at the end of this season, or bin him later-simple as that.

Personally I'd rather see a new face starting slowly, and progressively moving us on, than a couple of seasons of 'more of the same', as we hover around mid table, before the penny finally drops.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 21:20:14
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 20 2007, 07:34 PM) [snapback]245451[/snapback]
Steven Nicholls v Cowdenbeath (only his third game at this level)
Mike Ritchie @ Brechin (only game of ours recently was http://www.soccerbase.com/results3.sd?gameid=395017 )

I remember that game well. That Jason Walker NEVER scored any important goals for us-did he? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-20 21:26:51
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 20 2007, 07:29 PM) [snapback]245450[/snapback]
i think your aloofness to mundane everyday matters has gone a bit far this time, davie. one of the major scottish papers spent most of their report on our game slandering us for being drunken neds. i personally thought that was worth the 10 minutes it took to leave a comment on their website and send an email of complaint, no doubt to be ignored, but a wee bit of righteous indignation is good for a man every now and again.

i also informed fantapants that she will be buying a different sunday from now on, but she told me where to shove it, so i suppose i'll just have to get to the newsagent first from now on.

Click the link again and read the comments. I particularly like the one from Malcolm Rose of Aberdeen.

DM-you're censored Sir! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-20 21:29:52 This debate is totally irrelevant. We have not been losing matches this season because of regular goalkeeping gaffes. The problems lie elsewhere.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 21:32:10
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Mar 20 2007, 07:02 PM) [snapback]245437[/snapback]
Hooray at last you acknowledge me (if only as a pain in your a*se wink.gif but thanks anyway. I was beginning to think you were never going to talk to me ever again? Does this mean I am forgiven for my foolishness MATE?

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(edited for spelling)

mortonjag is slow to chasten and rapid to forgive! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-20 21:35:18
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 20 2007, 09:23 PM) [snapback]245519[/snapback]
The wise one has spoken laugh.gif

Naw, the three wise monkeys-you, me, and the wee boy on my left, who incidentally predicts a 4-1 victory for the Ton with Linn bagging two!
mortonjag 2007-03-20 21:37:30 Next please!

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mortonjag 2007-03-20 21:38:57 Loons 1 Ton 4 (Linn 2, Sanny, Spoonsy) sez Munx.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 21:41:29
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 20 2007, 08:45 PM) [snapback]245485[/snapback]
Or abstruse even be it might.

in deeding f*ck.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 21:44:31
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Mar 20 2007, 09:41 PM) [snapback]245538[/snapback]
Many thanks good to hear and long may we banter?

biggrin.gif

...a mancunian expression for sodomy peut etre?

I've told you before you can't rely on anonymity on here, and every c*nt wants to report you for sweet f*ck all! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-20 21:52:13
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Mar 20 2007, 09:48 PM) [snapback]245541[/snapback]
MJ, as much as I enjoy your words of wisdom and good education, sometimes they are wasted on me rolleyes.gif

As I said I learned a lesson last week - one that I will try my damned hardest not to repeat I am sure ..........

...aye, but has that wicked wummin still got you in her clutches.. she's no been back?

... or is the WRI on tonight? smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-20 21:57:51
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Mar 20 2007, 09:55 PM) [snapback]245545[/snapback]
She's not a wicked woman mate, she is great really. She was a little offended by your comments as was I but then again she is 18 weeks pregnant with our first so could be hormones (but don't tell her I said that wink.gif

That pretty well f*cks up the start of next season for you then!
mortonjag 2007-03-20 22:48:34
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 20 2007, 10:00 PM) [snapback]245552[/snapback]
Censored? What are you on about?

Canny remember-off to bed now! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-20 22:55:40
QUOTE(standman @ Mar 20 2007, 10:30 PM) [snapback]245574[/snapback]
On the contrary, the debate about Morton shipping goals and the new goalkeeper's role is very relevant at any time of the season, win or lose.

This is, after all , a forum for us to express our views about Morton is it not ?

The first goal conceded against Ayr at Cappielow is exactly the sort which we shouldn't be losing anyway but especially not if the goalkeeper is there to improve communication amongst the defence, of which he is a part.

Although Mathers may not make gaffes I've opened a debate about whether the manager's reasons for bringing him in in place of McGurn have had the desired effect.
I don't believe they have and neither am I convinced that if someone in front of him makes a mistake then he is likely to bring off a top drawer save at a vital moment.

He doesn't actually stop a great deal of the limited chances which face him throughout a match.

I'm not arguing about the purpose of the forum-I'm simply stating that for most of the season our goalies have been twiddling their thumbs, and then when they're frozen stiff they're expected to leap into action.

Mathers showed time after time after time at Peterhead that he was a quality keeper, albeit at lower division standard. David McGurn is also a good keeper, but has yet to amass Mathers' credentials.

As I've already stated it's impossible to ask them to face identical situations, which would be the only true way of comparing them.

In the first four or five matches, our defence paid attention to Mathers bidding, and was much sharper. After that it was back to 'old hat', so maybe the desired result has not been achieved.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 23:00:56
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Mar 20 2007, 10:32 PM) [snapback]245575[/snapback]
What's the right team though? Everyone has different opinions on this surely.

Any team that plays the way we played Killie.
mortonjag 2007-03-20 23:02:47
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Mar 20 2007, 10:03 PM) [snapback]245556[/snapback]
Nah, we'll be alright family live in Greenock and we are about to put the house on the market here in South Lanarkshire and move back to Greenock anyway. Mind you if you are offering to share the sentry duties with the wee 'un during the games it will be very much appreciated.

Mother and Father-In-Law have already offered to babysit for us but I am sure it will end up one of us going one week and then other the next - who knows.

It was uite interesting to read the comments the other day regarding the topic of what age to take your young ones to the game. I am sure JackTon will be putting her order in for three season tickets this time around instead of just the two (however, I have a feeling they will be in the stand rather than the cowshed).

I'd suggest that no child should venture through those hallowed portals 'til it can chew a tiny tasty sweet!
mortonjag 2007-03-20 23:06:33 I sense we've hit our rock botttom. The only way now is up. Stirling will drop a couple of points at least, and I'll be astonished if we have to go to the wire.

Champions with one game in hand-you heard it here first! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-20 23:27:55
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 20 2007, 11:21 PM) [snapback]245599[/snapback]
You'll be able to walk to Dunoon over the bodies if we don't do it . How much respect do the players have in JM's decisions now . I can understand guys like Alex Walker having his back up but when he continues to substitute Stevenson when he's playing well and thats only scratching the surface of the criticism .
We will win the league but the manner in which we have lost significant leads twice must put a question mark over the abilities of some , especially when we are fulltime and no one else is .

Your signature was prophetic-mediocrity has indeed known nothing higher.

Perhaps next season we'll have some talent STANDING on the touchline.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 07:06:47
QUOTE(SramTon @ Mar 21 2007, 12:01 AM) [snapback]245614[/snapback]
I'm not convinced.

Firstly I don't think he gets through a power of work. Compared to box-to-box midfielders like, for example, Derek McInnes or, choke, Tommy Turner during their time with us I think he does relatively little. Chris Millar covered a lot more ground on Saturday than McLaughlin did.

Compare McLaughlin's workrate to defensive midfielders like Roy Keane, Patrick Vierra, Janne Lindberg etc. Don't attempt to compare skill levels or anything else, just workrate.

In relation to reading the game and sweeping up I think that's an inevitability from the position he plays. If you're playing in the centre of the park, and not having to contribute creatively or even bust a gut getting forward in support the one thing you should be able to do is position yourself defensively.

How often do you actually see McLaughlin poping up somewhere unexpected to put in a saving tackle or make a vital interception?

Look at the second goal on Saturday. He runs from where Cramb is to close down a ball which is aready being closed down by two Morton midfielders, both of whom are nearer to the ball (and who have no prospect of covering instead for McLaughlin). He doesn't get within 5 yards of the ball, which is instead played to an unmarked Cramb. If leaving the defence stretched, their main scoring threat uncovered, and taking yourself out of play is excellent reading of the game then I'm dyslexic (apologies in advance to Pedro).

OK keep it coming and hopefully you'll convince me. As I said I'm not a Scotty fan, and he sometimes really annoys me the way he seems to muscle in unnecesarily on free kicks and corners, but I still think you're ignoring the fact that he does a helluva lot of 'unnoticed' work. Pedro, I'm sure will agree that's not the same as 'word blindness'.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 07:21:35
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 21 2007, 12:09 AM) [snapback]245618[/snapback]
A the reminiscing!! Is'nt it appropriate thinking of that team when Killie got gubbed 5-1. I have a recollection of a rain soaked Cappielow swimming pool when we gubbed them 5-1, the year the won the championship. McGraw got 4 and I think Caven got the other.

Oh and we did'nt have 'strikers' in those days - we had wingers, inside forwards and centre forwards where the centre forward was the guy from whom most was expected. Would that team beat today's lot? Is there any question?

It will be interesting to see the response to this one Tonsilitis. Because of our current style of football and the way we normally concede goals, we might scrape a couple against them, but we would DEFINITELY concede seven or eight! wink.gif

Adamson against Davie M. beaten for speed and skinned every time, so over comes the cross for McGraw who gets between Stew and Hardy like a knife through butter, either that or the occasional angled thunderbolt when the goalie least expected it.

Wee Jimmy up against Spoonsy, and he'd be so frustrated and angry at getting turned three times before the telling cross, he'd get a red after 10 minutes.

Morris Stevenson showing our kids what it really means to run through a defence from midfield instead of going round in ever decreasing circles hoping something will happen, and then the killer through ball for Joe or Allan, or that occasional softish but well placed snapshot.

...to say nothing of the nightmare scenario of our two central defenders trying to cope with high balls put in for those two from behind or the wings.

Na Tonsilitis 17 or 18 more like! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-21 07:51:17
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 21 2007, 07:10 AM) [snapback]245638[/snapback]
But isn't that the problem for a lot of us. How to cope with the prejudices of a class we don't feel like we belong to, despite all the economic indicators showing that we do.

Let's face it gents-the class system's simply turned on its head.

I guess I'd be called middle class. Certainly most of the posters seem to think of me as some sort of rich professional snob.

Not bad for a wee boy who still vividly remembers that top flat room and kitchen in Argyle St in the Port.

No hot water, no 'lecky', and a shared cludgy in the close, with cut up newspapers hung on a bit of string for those delicate wiping tasks. You played 'out the back green'-except there was no grass, and nobody had heard the term 'pocket money'.

Six of us were in there-overcrowding I think it's called now. The three brothers shared the double bed, and my Mum, Dad, and wee sister were together in the 'bed recess' in the kitchen/living room, where the only entertainment was a crackly old radio run off an accumulator.

My Mum tried to give us a really decent meal once a week, and she was brilliant with cheap cuts of meat and so on, but we largely lived on bread and marge, with cheap jam or jelly as a treat, and frequent cups of sugary milky tea stopped the weans getting too hungry. (and rapidly rotted their teeth).

Baths for all once a week in a big zinc 'copper'-I never understood how that could be right- with the water heated over the coal fire in the 'range', topped up from the 'scullery' coal bunker, which doubled as a 'worktop'.

I met Andy Mc. about seventeen years later at Uni-we were both in the same class-he mentioned he'd been born in Port Glasgow. It turned out he had been brought up in the close right across the road from me, but as I had done another degree first, he'd only been a toddler, when I walked all the way to Chapelton Primary and back on a daily basis. Andy now lives in Barrhead and hates to be thought of as middle class, but he and his wife are both G.P.'s so I guess he's stuck with it.

I'm definitely 'middle class' now-but if I'm also deeply proud of my origins.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 07:58:59
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 21 2007, 06:59 AM) [snapback]245634[/snapback]
i can't help thinking that kenny deuchar's unpopularity on here has less to do with his lack of ability than with his impressive scoring record against us.

Naw-he's an arrogant big headed c*nt who thinks the world owes him a living.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 08:57:44
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 21 2007, 08:14 AM) [snapback]245645[/snapback]
LUXURY!!!!!

I was joking about despising the middle-class incidently.

The 'class' I despise DM, and they vastly outnumber what would have been thought of as 'middle class' a generation ago, are the 'nouveau riche'-those who in this lucre orientated 'grab what you can' society clearly think that because they've got money, they've arrived.

A more arrogant and selfish bunch you couldn't find-little respect for anything other than making sure everything they've got's bigger and better than the man's next door. Those types have the Telegraph delivered dalily, and it goes straight into the Siamese cat's litter tray, while they sneak out the back door for their subsidised copy of the 'Sun'.

mortonjag 2007-03-21 09:04:54
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 21 2007, 08:24 AM) [snapback]245647[/snapback]
Eh? Training to be a doctor hardly implies that the world owes him a living.
So he thinks that he can play at a higher level than Morton, good on him. I'd call that ambitious rather than selfish.

Ambitious, arrogant big headed c*nt!
mortonjag 2007-03-21 09:09:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 21 2007, 08:40 AM) [snapback]245649[/snapback]
Are all Doctors like that ? laugh.gif

Yes-but there are exceptions to every rule. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-21 09:17:31 Yesterday was the Spring equinox-days are longer than nights again, and the 'clock goes forward' this weekend. An hour less to sober up before heading for the ritual humping of Forfar. (For those who need it).

My mood is always much lower in the dark wintry days-apparently it has to do with neurotransmitters in my brain, which need be stimulated by UV light.

I hate sleeping with any light on, but in the waking hours the house is always lit like a photographer's studio.

Somebody once said I suffer from SAD syndrome, but TBH, I'm just a bad tempered c*nt, and worse in the winter. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-21 09:42:19 Over the past few months, and in particular since Mr C Rae's description of our forum as 'a rag' there's been a general perception that the players in particular, and perhaps also the management are affected by what we write.

I take the view that although this is a free and open forum, it is specifically for the fans.

I believe that anyone else who cares to stray into this hall of knowledge and wisdom does so at his peril.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 10:06:06
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Mar 21 2007, 09:54 AM) [snapback]245664[/snapback]
At the end of the day, everyone can write what they want on the forum, the thing is that alot of what we write the Club doesnt like, they dont have to read it, every club has forums with their own set of fans writing the same wether it be praise or heckling them.

Also, its better than the main site, there is more chance of a M1 Tank getting through the Green Zone in Bahgdad without being hit than the main site being updated. dry.gif

I like that analogy AT!

What I'm getting at is that some of us are bitterly scathing-in my case mainly about the Board and manager, rather than the 'lads', though they also get a roasting day in, day out.

I firmly believe that that is not only legitimate, but also serves the POSITIVE function of letting us unload our anger and frustration safely, and 'in private'.

I don't mind others 'ripping me to shreds' for my views-variety is the spice of life, and I enjoy the jousting, but what really 'gets on my tits' is when the sanctimonious brigade preach about 'the error of our ways', and blame US for things patently outwith our control.

On a light hearted note, IF the 'high heid yins' DO read this, I volunteer to pick the side for Sunday, and if they let me I GUARANTEE we will win. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-21 10:08:31
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 21 2007, 10:06 AM) [snapback]245666[/snapback]
I'd seriously, honestly, 100% rather be in Stirling's position, as they have the mental advantage and the good form.

In one word, they have 'Belief'.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 10:10:26
QUOTE(maurtaun @ Mar 21 2007, 09:49 AM) [snapback]245662[/snapback]
Is this another "thoughts with his family at this time" thing?

The little chap on my left thinks-'NO'.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 10:23:49
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Mar 21 2007, 10:12 AM) [snapback]245672[/snapback]
Good post MJ, but as for yer last part, noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo tongue.gif

FFS-if my wee pal can swing about the trees surely he'll deal with crosses better than baldy, and ma maw's still as sharp as a tack and misses nothing-so Gowser's out too. Other than that, I might leave things unchanged.

10 nil to the Ton-nae tother a ba' smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-21 10:33:47
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 21 2007, 10:07 AM) [snapback]245667[/snapback]
I'll either abstain or spoil my ballot, as last time.

Snap!

Not apathy though-just utter despair.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 10:46:30
QUOTE(steve-ton @ Mar 21 2007, 10:40 AM) [snapback]245684[/snapback]
Yeah I thought he could have got across to it a bit quicker as well. Still a great strike though.

Steve-it's always the same when a keeper seems slow to get across for a 'free' like that. You have to take into consideration whether or not he was unsighted by a defender. If any half decent 'stopper' gets an early enough view of the ball as it's hit, he'll at least produce a decent effort, if not a save.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 11:02:22
QUOTE(steve-ton @ Mar 21 2007, 10:51 AM) [snapback]245686[/snapback]
Yeah good point MJ, I'll admit it was hard to see from where I was sitting whether he was unsighted or not. It's just that generally his reaction time does seem a bit slow.

Agreed, and I've been a wee bit disappointed in Paul. He doesn't seem the same guy who defied us in the playoffs. No doubt there will be more than one reason, but have you noticed over the years how often a goalie who's been standing doing nothing for ages suddenly gets totally caught out-and I'm talking about good goalies playing for good teams.

The opposite seems to apply-you often get guys who are really up against it, and they pull off save after save, sometimes seeming to get inspiration from nowhere.

Any sportsman knows what you mean when terms like 'I sure had my eye in against him', or 'I was cooking by gas in that game', etc., are used.

I clearly recall Davie McG getting caught in the same trap more than once.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 11:07:24
QUOTE(jpmil @ Mar 21 2007, 11:02 AM) [snapback]245693[/snapback]
My my, in the light of these recent posts would you not think it appropriate that we establish a new chat room named the Morton Philosophical Room.

Only kidding lads mortonjag’s reminiscences rang many bells with me.

You're not the guy that gave my wee brother Scarlet Fever by any chance-I remember him getting carted off in an ambulance. It was raining and dark outside, and I cried my eyes out thinking they were taking him away for ever! It did seem an eternity before he came back, though I gather it was only a couple of weeks.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 11:11:12
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 21 2007, 11:02 AM) [snapback]245691[/snapback]
Personally very glad that Soutar's tainted luchre is elsewhere. Salmond really will sup wie the de'il.

Conservative for me of course.

Shocked at Edwards. Silly socialist party indeed. I would have thought that their vision of a Scotland freed from the capitalist's lash, a land of milk and honey, would have been right up his street. unsure.gif

Edit to include: Currently 70% plus for the SNP! Probs an accurate reflection of the board but not the country.

What percentage of 'thinking voters' spend time on unofficial football forums I wonder? huh.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-21 11:23:17
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 21 2007, 11:19 AM) [snapback]245703[/snapback]
"Reliably informed that the sub-editors did have concerns and initially made changes to the report but the sports editor insisted that the report stay as Ron Mackay wrote it."

Perhaps the Sports Editor isn't a fan of big Ron?

wink.gif

What is it with you and donkeys BTW-somebody drop you for big Sanny? blink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-21 11:25:09
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 21 2007, 11:21 AM) [snapback]245704[/snapback]
Careful lads, a thread about bookies and Morton and betting and title run ins and........ jeez sorry, blacked out for a second there, its getting too traumatic wacko.gif

The simple rule is never to bet with the heart-always use the heid.

Come to think of it, who in his right mind bets anyway?
mortonjag 2007-03-21 11:29:20 The Cadbury spokesman described the criminal fraternity as 'thick', and talked about 'reputable' retailers' not buying them.

FUDGE.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 11:50:03
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Mar 21 2007, 11:43 AM) [snapback]245713[/snapback]
Neil snr. runs his own joinery/carpenter business in Dunoon unless he has recently taken over Dae it Yourself, you could be right though. I moved out of Dunoon bout 6 years ago, although i do go back fairly regularly.

I'm not sure what the set up is DT, but my brother's lived in the town for the last 35 years, and he introduced me to Neil in the shop.

Incidentally, they offer a fantastic personal service-I had no idea at first about the yard between them and Jane Street, where they've got a large stock of timber and other items, and they'll cut anything to size at very competitive prices.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 11:56:30
QUOTE(neilly @ Mar 21 2007, 11:46 AM) [snapback]245714[/snapback]
this is the same guy that promised he would resign if we didnt make it through the play-offs in the press??? his promises mean nothing to me!!!

'I promise them they'll have their party at the end of the season'.

Although I sincerely believe he's correct, it's just a daft throw away statement which can be interpreted any way we, or he, likes.

Let's face it, if he does f*ck up at the final hurdle, we can all party to celebrate his sacking!
mortonjag 2007-03-21 11:58:32
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Mar 21 2007, 11:41 AM) [snapback]245712[/snapback]
hmmm strange, their definitely wrong on mine, unless i cant tell the time. huh.gif

Change your date and time settings in control panel thrax!
mortonjag 2007-03-21 12:20:21
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Mar 21 2007, 11:21 AM) [snapback]245705[/snapback]
My initial post had nothing to do with social class or anything like that. I am not really offended as such by the article, I posted because, like others and as LCM perfectly coined, I didn't want the Morton support to be portrayed as a bunch of "drunken neds." There is just no need for that kind of content in a match report which didn't need any bulking up as there was enough incident on the pitch to keep the reporter busy. Also, instead of Stirling and Morton fans turning out in credible number (probably one of the biggest crowds Forthbank has ever seen) he chose to focus on Stirling's less than picturesque setting and Morton's neddish travelling support. The lower leagues need praised when there is such a good match and attendence so as to prise part-time Old Firm fans from their Setanta sofas on a Saturday afternoon and get down to watch their local team. This reporter had a chance to do that and highlight the vibrancy of this top of the table clash; instead however, he continually slandered Morton fans and the town of Stirling.

I agree with you in general. You can't deny though, that his article was hardly aimed at the 'average' football fan. It came over as a gratuitous and sneering laugh at us which he hoped would be shared by the Sunday Herald readership.

It really has to be asked what his agenda is. If you ask me Edinton's hit the nail on the head. The pathetic b*****d was trying to get 'Brownie points' in the press room, and it sounds like it backfired big style.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 12:23:02
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Mar 21 2007, 12:15 PM) [snapback]245723[/snapback]
Pfft, when that time comes the Greens will still be moaning rather than doing anything productive.

"Oh I don't care if you're cold, wearing Polar Bear furr is inhumane!

...unless you're a polar bear, when it's a bare necessity.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 12:27:27
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 21 2007, 12:25 PM) [snapback]245731[/snapback]
Thats very much an personal opinion, which many may not agree with each others ideas.

The 'right team' for me just means a team that gets it right.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 12:28:47
QUOTE(leyTON @ Mar 21 2007, 12:24 PM) [snapback]245730[/snapback]
i was there was rather funny especially watching their low shots after we stole the balls
alos the bouncy as the cops tried to look for them biggrin.gif

...the Cops were looking for their balls! blink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-21 12:33:04
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 21 2007, 12:28 PM) [snapback]245735[/snapback]
in a shock turn of events I agree with you ohmy.gif

smile.gif By the law of averages Bryan, even if JM fields the same squad, the Loons will get humped.

Mind you, there's been a huge backlash from Saturday's debacle, and I'm waiting with bated breath for the team announcement. The only change I can see is Bobby Linn getting a start, but knowing Jim's past history, he's likely to keep it the same IMO.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 12:43:05
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 21 2007, 12:27 PM) [snapback]245734[/snapback]
Souter's entitled to his views. As you know, I don't really agree with people being tainted by religious belief, which I think is the reason behind Souter's views, but in fact I think he was actually correct in saying that the vast majority of people who had an opinion on Section 28 wanted it kept. That's what his referendum, however imperfect, showed anyway. If you look at some of the primary school reading books that are beginning to appear, with handsome princes rejecting beautiful princesses in favour of a handsome prince, you might begin to see that the removal of section 28 was driven by the Peter Tatchellite homosexual lobby who won't accept that they are in fact a very small minority. Google Tatchell and you will find that his views are odious to put it mildly. He runs around looking for things to be offended by rather than trying to blend in the way he claims he wants homosexuals to be able to do. He has his own agenda.

I don't see Souters's money being tainted as much as the millions from Trade Unions or big business to Labour & Tories. Nicola Sturgeon has stated unequivocally that there are no strings attached and that donors to the SNP do NOT influence policy (which is set by the members).

To those who say they'll abstain - if you don't vote, you can hardly complain. Surely there must be someone whose policies you agree with in part at least?

Abstension is a legitimate 'vote' against all candidates, and IMO is more honest than so called 'tactical voting'.
I voted George Reid in many, many years ago Alibi, partially because I had strong nationalistic feelings before I grew up, but largely to counter a red hot 'lefty' in a safe seat.

Down the years I've occasionally voted where I felt I could make an impact, but frankly I'm now so disenchanted by politics and politicians that I regard abstension as a positive comment on a system that's rotten to the core.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 12:47:12
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 21 2007, 12:34 PM) [snapback]245742[/snapback]
Nay, although when the fan's game rolls around, that may be an accurate description rolleyes.gif

The fans are 'Neds' and know hee haw.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 12:54:24
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 21 2007, 12:48 PM) [snapback]245751[/snapback]
Eggsactly what I was thinking

They'll have cremed off a whacking profit already, and have probably flaked out after drinking half of it.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 12:57:51
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 21 2007, 12:47 PM) [snapback]245750[/snapback]
That's very brraaaaaayve of you

...those asses don't scare me! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-21 13:07:35
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Mar 21 2007, 01:04 PM) [snapback]245759[/snapback]
Well it would explain a lot blink.gif

Gentlemen-time please! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-21 14:04:27
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 21 2007, 01:55 PM) [snapback]245781[/snapback]
No defence of Hardie by SW in a while, is she busy walking the streets? Seems a bit early though.

What hours do they work?

You must know the answer! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-21 14:09:17
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 21 2007, 01:31 PM) [snapback]245775[/snapback]
I'd put those ahead of gravel. Always remember the first time I slide tackled someone down the Battery and had to put up with my bloody knee sticking to my trousers/bedsheets for about a week. Nightmare. Gravel rash doesn't come close.

Whaaat-you did a slide tackle and ended up with an injured KNEE-c'mon BH do you do everthing upside down? blink.gif

edit-oh did you mean the BACK of your knee-well that's not really got a name, except maybe hamstrings, although that's not right either-oh why bother?
mortonjag 2007-03-21 14:26:05
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 21 2007, 02:13 PM) [snapback]245789[/snapback]
Dental nurses? They tend to work normal office hours.

Glad I could help you, old yin.

ta-and if you want to know the hours of the 'ladies of the night' once your old enough to perform, just give me a buzz! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-21 14:31:31 Couldn't be bothered looking.

Connelly is now nothing but a national embarrassment. Back in the early seventies he was an absolute hoot, seeing the funny side of ordinary Scottish folk, of which he was one, and helping them to laugh at themselves-and him.

Now he's a 'true' fake-as phoney as that ridiculous put on accent, as he prattles to selected highbrow audiences who think he's 'ever so'.

Vomit! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-21 14:49:00
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Mar 21 2007, 02:42 PM) [snapback]245795[/snapback]
MJ you do know it is an impersonater I have posted?

I kind of sussed that-it's just that every time I hear that b*****d's name I get infuriated. I don't mind people coming from humble origins and wearing success comfortably, but that creature-argh. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-21 14:57:07
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 21 2007, 02:36 PM) [snapback]245794[/snapback]
It has been suggested that there should be a "none of the above" option. Maybe a good idea for those who don't want to vote for any of the candidates in their own constituency. However we do have a pretty wide spectrum to choose from, with the possible exception of a centre-right party which supports independence - I could see some Tories going down that route after 3rd May when they realise that's the only way they'll ever get anywhere in Scotland.

Maybe it's just because for as many years as I care to remember, I've been stuck in ultra safe labour wards, with no viable opposition. I've never voted Tory in my life, and that now includes Tory Bliar's crowd IMO.

Possibly I could be tempted to vote SNP if my local guy seems genuine, but my opinion of politicians as a breed is so low, that he'll have to be something extra special.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 15:01:57
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Mar 21 2007, 02:57 PM) [snapback]245799[/snapback]
You get infuriated quite a bit. Have you ever considered anger management. I could give you a number for someone.

...that anger management therapist was a phoney. First time I've 'planted' somebody in years-wanted me to listen to wee relaxation tapes, and imagine I was on some beautiful tropical island for half an hour while he nipped out for a quick snifter. I've got a good lawyer mind you! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-21 15:05:22
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 21 2007, 02:58 PM) [snapback]245802[/snapback]
What a revolting thought.

I also like knowing who the ref is ThornTon. They can and do change the game. Saturday's ref may be the reason JM took off two player who had both been booked and the ref seemed to have a dislike for. I don't think I remember Templeman actually really commit a foul before he was booked for persistent fouling. The ref was not to blame for us losing but he didn't help.

Do you know if Hardie will be doing any of Stirling's run-in games as the wee fat bast@rd hates them as much as he hates us.

Don't be daft-he doesn't hate anybody-he just loves himself-nobody's safe.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 17:15:10
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 21 2007, 03:20 PM) [snapback]245810[/snapback]
Oh OK, I deserved that one tongue.gif
True, but did he not have a very public fall out with a Stirling Albion player, refusing to allow "his" linesman to shake hands with the player after the game.

Or have I got that wrong unsure.gif Was it East Stirling?

It was indeed McNally, but it could be anybody anywhere. He's just an arrogant wee Hitler.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 17:22:05
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 21 2007, 05:15 PM) [snapback]245878[/snapback]
I think players can be affected by what fans write, and moreso what fans shout at games (and other stuff; some away players in other divisions have said that when they see the home fans troop out, they're encouraged... can't remember who this was, think it was an SPL player) but I think that what happens amongst the squad and at the club is a far greater factor.

I watch what I write just out of decency but at the same time, this is an unofficial board - I was asked to make that clear when I set it up and I have done so - where people will sometimes go over the top. Of course we're all here because we love Morton but if someone wants to let their feelings known, within reason, they should be able to. So even if it does affect the players' confidence, the simplest solution is... to not read it.

I try to get behind the team on a Saturday; that, to me, is about the best a fan can do.

More or less my take, though I say what I think because I'm totally indecent.

Anyway there are two sides to every story, and if the players were on here after the Killie game, their heads must have been bigger than the collective division 2 club overdraft.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 17:26:13 I've said all along you can only compare like with like. Mathers' reputation and past history are undeniable. Agreed his form may have dipped a bit, but Davie McGurn's had a few howlers in his time.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 17:35:24
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 21 2007, 05:16 PM) [snapback]245879[/snapback]
If you read it, he doesnt actually say he's hurting MORE he says he's hurting as much ( or not any less) .

TBH I couldn't give a toss whether he's hurting like f*ck or just trying to look concerned because the real feelings of the fans have finally penetrated his thick skull.

If indeed he's capable of any passion, he certainly makes an enormous effort to hide it, as he perches in the dugout like a tailor's dummy when we go a goal down.

If he really gave a f*ck about what we think, he might expand and explain a bit, instead of trotting out the same one liners, (and players), week in week out.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 17:40:12
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Mar 21 2007, 05:32 PM) [snapback]245887[/snapback]
What about the issue of commitment or loyalties to Morton as a goalkeeper playing against Forfar, a club which it has been reported he will be joining as part of the management team.

Surely there are morale issues here or am I just looking into this too far?

Regards

So far as I know Mathers is currently a Morton player. I don't imagine even JM would be daft enough to compromise us by playing Paul on Sunday, if there is any question of divided loyalties.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 17:42:21
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Mar 21 2007, 05:39 PM) [snapback]245892[/snapback]
There you go then, your prob right! As i say, i moved to Glasgow about 6 years ago. I wonder if he will cut me out a 2 by 4 (has to be exact replica of Hacksaw Jim Duggan's) and wooden cartie powered by kindle, so that i can chase McInally all the way back from Forfar if we don't win on Sunday! tongue.gif

laugh.gif

I wonder how many Ton fans on this forum live in Glasgow. may start a thread.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 17:50:55
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 21 2007, 04:12 PM) [snapback]245838[/snapback]
I didn't want Clause 28 kept. A complete nonsense in political terms and one of the most reactionary right wing semi-McCarthyite bills ever passed. Soutar can dress it up how he wants but he's still a bigot and will lose the SNP support. See the letters page in todays' Herald for starters. Agree about Thatchell however.

Regarding Sturgeon, so the SNP is completely unique in world politics? The parralels between 1997 New Labour and the Tartan Tories are there for all to see. Which is a pity because it leaves people with a choice of four right wing parties to vote for.

Agreed-when little Nicola first appeared on the political scene, I thought she was a sincere lass, but as always happens, she's been efficiently sucked into the morass of lies and corruption which is politics, and she does herself and the SNP no favours by trotting out such arrant nonsense.

She should be on the stage (or should that be stagecoach?).
mortonjag 2007-03-21 18:14:15
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 21 2007, 03:14 PM) [snapback]245809[/snapback]
Are you the same person you were in the seventies? Have your attitudes to life, politics and society not altered one bit since the seventies. If not you really haven't used life's experiences very well have you.

Billy Connelly is the funniest guy I've ever seen or heard and is a dam sight more enlighten and honest than your, "fake" sociably crippled persona that you use on here to compensate for what could be seen to be your inferiority complex.

EDIT:- 1st post was over the top and a tad aggressive.

Listen to me sonny boy, I was around the local gig scene when Connelly started to come through from lowly beginnings with the 'Humblebums'. One of my mates lived in the same road as he did in Drymen and his wife was very friendly with Billy's 'ex' . I've had a pint with the guy more than once in the 'Salmon Leap' too.

I AM the same person as I was in the seventies. I may have aged, but I haven't assumed a pathetic fake accent, nor an arrogance which comes from the constant adulation of a media fed public.

Billy is a natural comedian, and when he IS being himself is one of the funniest guys I've ever met. I've almost wet myself laughing at times when he's just been relaxing with us group of guys.

That is why I DETEST the fake persona he's assumed, which DOES make me cringe, and which I DO regard as an embarrassment to Scotland.

I may very well project a 'fake sociably crippled persona' at times, though I confess to some confusion regarding your actual meaning.

'Inferiority complex', however, might seem more applicable to the pathetic creatures, who take that 'persona', 'hook, line, and sinker', every time it dangles anywhere near their sensitive little goldfish bowl heads. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-21 19:00:33
QUOTE(moneyton @ Mar 21 2007, 06:52 PM) [snapback]245923[/snapback]
Come on...the guy is not the best footballer in the world but to call him a donkey of the week and make our team out to be a laughing stock is unfair...

I was annoyed on Saturday but how many games has he played in this season?

Its a bit unfair!

Mcinally is the donkey....Master tactician................NOT

For a start, check the data on how many full games he's played this season. MOTM at Peterhead, and at Beath, so two out of ? is still bloody good going for a 'donkey'.

I suggest you raise the possibility of frustration, and maybe unrest in the dressing room. Guys like Keenan, Finlayson, Walker, Russell, and Linn are training as hard as anybody every week, and when they DO get a rare chance, they seem so desperate to prove themselves that they often f*ck up, as Deano and Bobby did on Saturday.

It seems obvious, but on National radio, the biggest talking point must surely be blowing a convincing lead twice-the 'whys and wherefores'-and the change in opinion about JM since Saturday.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 19:05:42
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 21 2007, 06:52 PM) [snapback]245924[/snapback]
Bruce McFee is not standing in this election.

The SNP is the Party that can give us the best chance of becoming an independent State.

If you don't vote or spoil your paper you must be happy within the Union

That sounds about as logical as the rest of your posts on things political.

What on earth makes you believe that just because I'm unconvinced by the SNP, I must be 'happy with the Union'?
mortonjag 2007-03-21 19:33:43
QUOTE(montheton @ Mar 21 2007, 07:13 PM) [snapback]245938[/snapback]
i live down in cambs and he was on the local telly news after signing and hes not a doctor or training to be a doctor, hes a medic and just keeps his hand in so hes got something to fall back on when his footballing career is over! ohmy.gif

He is a qualified doctor who has completed his JHO, or training year, and is fully registered with the GMC.

His basic salary if he was currently working full time would be about £26,000 p.a., but with overtime, and shift allowances would certainly top £30,000 p.a.

I've always believed that the Gre£na experience DID give him a grossly inflated opinion of his real value in footballing terms, but the minute he chucks the game, that's the kind of income he knows is guaranteed.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 19:49:53
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Mar 21 2007, 07:25 PM) [snapback]245944[/snapback]
Anybody who believes that this forum is "in private" is quite frankly naive. This forum is read by just about every Scottish football journalist worth his salt.

This is not a safe zone where you can say what you like. This is a very public zone where the whole world and their granny can read what is said.
Comments which harm the team and the manager are pounced on and used to great effect by journos and the opposition. The betting scam was a wonderful example of how to turn your own team over "in private" and distract them from doing the business.

I for one don't believe that you are a Morton fan, somehow Morton-Jag you just remind me of a cuckoo in the nest.

You are either at the 'wind up' or a sanctimonious stuffed shirt. Not a board member perchance?

Point 1. Read my second paragraph again-I did not even imply, let alone state the forum is 'private'.

Point 2. Comments which 'harm the team and manager' are not going to be gagged or censored by people with muddle headed ideas. They will rapidly disappear when they become unwarranted or invalid.

Point 3. I'll treat that with the total contempt it deserves. I've always given credit where it's due, and I reserve the right to comment when I see incompetence, mismanagement, and what could be construed as yet another potential selling of the paying fans down the river.

Point 4. To the masses of Scottish football journalists out there, who apparently hang on every word typed into this 'extremely dangerous' zone, give me a wee P.M. any time you want a scathing article written about any other club.

My comments about my beloved Morton will remain here. As I have said before, Mr 'holier than thou', log on at your peril. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-21 19:58:40
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Mar 21 2007, 07:04 PM) [snapback]245933[/snapback]
At the end of the day, McInally is the Donkey, infact, some of the guys out in Iraq have nicknamed an Iraqi Donkey after him laugh.gif

Makin Ali and the forty lies.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 20:02:34
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Mar 21 2007, 07:12 PM) [snapback]245937[/snapback]
Shocking, next thing you know you'll be telling us that you know the names and addresses of the guys who shot JFK.

How can you possibly talk about frustration and maybe unrest in the dressing room. You sir are nothing but a bloody menace and should keep your speculative opinions to yourself, instead of encouraging someone to go on radio and make unfounded claims that could potentially harm the morale of our team and it's manager.

We are all entitled to our opinion but when it damages the players, manager and club then you should keep your mouth shut.

I've already answered your paranoia on another thread. Now stop panicking, and welcome to the real world, whoever you are.

YOU are clearly the one who is never a bona fide fan in a thousand years. Spit it out-what's your hidden agenda. Your posts have always smacked of a 'vested interest', rather than a simple love of our local team.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 20:20:08
QUOTE(montheton @ Mar 21 2007, 07:46 PM) [snapback]245948[/snapback]
given that we`re not that far from london, in his current location 26000-30000 is an average salary for a skilled worker, medic, nurse, engineer, train driver!

Think a qualified doctor would warrant slightly more than that.

Only stating what he said on the telly down here - not a doctor, i`m a medic keeping my hand in. This was on a walkround of the local hospital showing where he works.

Whatever the TV show MAY have portrayed, I've given you the facts. With any talent and a bit of luck he could be earning well over twice that amount in three or four years. Junior doctors have never been all that well paid, but remember they are at the very bottom of the salary scale.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 20:22:44
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Mar 21 2007, 08:03 PM) [snapback]245959[/snapback]
The problem with that is that fans get impatient when someone is having a bad game and almost impulsively make their voice heard. I know I've done it more than once. It's not as if I'm there to spread negativity or whatever. It's because I'm passionate about Morton and I don't find it easy to hold back when I'm watching something that is disappointing.

Correct, and that was my point when I suggested that rather than laying into them on a Saturday, we can safely let off steam here.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 20:30:54
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Mar 21 2007, 08:24 PM) [snapback]245986[/snapback]
I am niether at the "wind up" or a sanctimonious stuffed shirt. That my non Morton supporting Jag is a position held by you and you alone.

We will see you in the First Division next year, no matter how hard you try. Now go away and do what you luvvy Jags do in your spare time, apart from coming on here and attempting to dishearten and unsettle true Morton fans.

I've asked you to divulge your true identity, and you've scuttled off as expected with another pathetic shot across my bows.

There are plenty of others on the board who are aware of my true allegiance to the Ton, and I've made it eminently clear that it overrides fleeting approval or otherwise of Chairmen, Board members, and individual players.

I will continue to call it as I see it. If you insist on attempting to gag me on each and every occasion you feel your anonymous position is threatened or undermined by what I write, I guess you'll soon find yourself very unpopular.


WHO ARE YE?
mortonjag 2007-03-21 20:55:00
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Mar 21 2007, 08:06 PM) [snapback]245963[/snapback]
I have no problem with the players that he put on. The problem for me was the guys that went off. The two players who were completely controlling the game for us. It was absolutely definate that the game would change if Stevenson and Templeman came off, purely because of the amount of the ball they seen in the positive moves. I'd have gone for McGowan and Millar coming off. Maybe even take Stevenson off and keep Templeman to hold the ball up and waste time in the Stirling half.

The only possible reason I could see for Sanny coming off was to prevent a red card. If that was the case, JM already had his mind on future games, and not on the '6 pointer' in hand.

IMO that was crass stupidity.

If, on the other hand, it was a tactical move, it merely confirms my suspicion that he hasn't a 'scooby'.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 21:04:56
QUOTE(montheton @ Mar 21 2007, 08:35 PM) [snapback]245990[/snapback]
It was anglia news and once again it was deuchar himself who said it. I couldent care less what qualifications the boy has, if i was a junior doctor i wouldent have labeled myself as a medic.

was only tring to help as it was on the news down here, wasnt puting him down, only forwarding the information HE gave on the news.

Doctors nowadays are frequently referred to as 'medics', so maybe there's been some confusion there.

Probably all he meant was that he's only doing a few part time stints in the local hospital' to keep his hand in', and not working full-time. That's what he was doing at Stirling Royal, after he completed his 'House officer' year.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 21:14:37
QUOTE(diablo ton 1 @ Mar 21 2007, 08:07 PM) [snapback]245967[/snapback]
I understand where you are coming from Mortonjag, but simply put Billy Connolly has moved on.

I agree there was a time when he needed his head looked, when he was pissing about with prince Andy, but that's history. I think he probably looks back and thinks he was acting like a jumped up welder.

I saw The Big Yin in concert at the beginning of this month in Brentwood. A small theatre with 300/350 people there. He was on for 2 hours and as usual he talked about "life". He still has the talent to bring out the funny aspects of life.

He mentioned the best time of his life is when he is touring on the folk scene in Scotland, which he still does. His good pal Alex Norton was mentioned, although he did say most of his mates were American.

Anyway the show was great and everybody seemed to enjoy themselves, judging by the laughter.
My favourite Billy Connolly story is..........

He has made it big in LA and he has his old Aunty out for a visit from Glasgow. Billy takes her round the house in Beverley Hills and is doing a bit of showing off. He takes her out and shows her the back garden. Billy asks, what she thought of the place?

She replies...............Oh Billy its great..............and this weather is great as well..........
.....but look at the lovely day we have and "nae body has a waashin oot"
BTW, I think his weans have been brought up and now live in LA.

He's obviously still a VERY funny guy. I just much prefer the 'real' Billy rather than what he's moved on to.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 21:48:31
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Mar 21 2007, 09:27 PM) [snapback]246033[/snapback]
You are full of your own importance. I most certainly don't feel threatened or undermined by what you write. And I'm going to find myself very unpopular for disagreeing with you am I !!!!!! Goodness I'm quaking in my size 10s.

Coming from someone who's clearly completely out on a limb on this issue, I find that statement sadly ironic.

In your blinkered and self deluded state of grandeur, you announce to all and sundry that our input to the forum is potentially going to prevent us getting the promotion WE ALL desperately want.

It seems to me Mr 9, Strathblane Crescent that your size 10's are about half your bunnet size.

Incidentally, how did you manage to construe a threat from my simple comment that your attitude to our rights may make you unpopular.

Paranoia IS amenable to treatment, and the NHS IS still at your service.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 21:53:13
QUOTE(diablo ton 1 @ Mar 21 2007, 09:28 PM) [snapback]246034[/snapback]
I hear you Mortonjag....

but you know there is one bloke I really DON"T LIKE.................. and that's Robson Jerome...

Now here is one bloke that is a major w***er. I remember watching a program with him on it and he really was a jumped up pr**k. He was waffling on in his new posh kensington accent and making himself out to be the best thing since slice bread and putting everything and everybody down, who did not have a couple of million in the bank.

Remember this is a guy who left school with no qualifications or training and all of a sudden he spouting forth complete sh**e, about how the working class should sort themselves out.

This is one bloke I would love to see going ddddooooowwwnnnnnnnnnn.............

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mortonjag 2007-03-21 22:05:32
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 21 2007, 08:13 PM) [snapback]245973[/snapback]
The SNP are not the only Party that believes in independence for Scotland.

You would vote for an independence Party if you wanted out the Union. If you don't, then logic says you must be happy with the current constitutional arrangement unsure.gif

A union is a 'marriage' Colkitto.

Very few people are entirely happy with marriages-we are not in an ideal world.

That does not mean they go rushing to family lawyers after the first spat.

I see much that I dislike about Scotland in Britain, but there is absolutely no guarantee we'd be better off over the piece, left completely to our own resources.

There's really no point in arguing with that. Neither of us can tell the future.
mortonjag 2007-03-21 22:08:05
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Mar 21 2007, 10:00 PM) [snapback]246050[/snapback]
I object to the pejorative us eof the word "Donkey" to describe a footballer who, in the opinion of the poster, does not meet the required standard. This is a slur on us hard working beasts.... mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif wink.gif laugh.gif

What an ass!
mortonjag 2007-03-21 22:13:30
QUOTE(Muz @ Mar 21 2007, 10:02 PM) [snapback]246051[/snapback]
Mortonjag- dont take this the wrong way, but do you have a life?

Over 5,000 posts? You're never off here- bit sad dontcha think?

Why would I take it the 'wrong way' Muz-I always appreciate helpful advice! smile.gif

As one who until a few years ago regularly worked sixty hours a week in a very high pressure job, I feel I'm entitled to do exactly as I please in my very contented and busy retirement.

Don't you take this the wrong way, but using the forum for a total of an hour or two a day, doesn't cut much into the rest of my routine, and the banter AND serious debate keeps me mentally alert.

Bit sad? Nope!! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-22 06:03:14
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Mar 21 2007, 09:52 PM) [snapback]246047[/snapback]
From the makers of the Pasta Sauce Adverts

I Hate Cats

Come back tonosaurus-all is forgiven.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 06:09:24
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 21 2007, 10:12 PM) [snapback]246057[/snapback]
I knew it would happen one day but I agree with Colkitto 100% on this.
Same goes for people who 'don't do politics'. If you don't do politics then you must be content with the status quo.

Disagree strongly-well I suppose it depends!

At the moment I WON'T do politics for the simple reason that in the constituency I'm in, Labour are well and truly guaranteed the vote, and I'm getting too old for meaningless trips to the local Primary School.

Mind you, if it's a really nice day, I might take a wee 'donner' over, and spoil my paper. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-22 06:29:00
QUOTE(edd @ Mar 22 2007, 01:51 AM) [snapback]246121[/snapback]
i'm writing an essay due on friday and i'm quoting a piece of writing from the 18th century and the writer keeps using those big s's that look like f's (only not quite) seemingly randomly. first of all, does anyone know how to get that symbol in microsoft word, and secondly, just out of interest, are there any rules about when to use the f-looking "s" instead of just using the normal "s" (which the 18th century writer also uses)?

for example: "They further agree, that the debts of the donee are not effectual, more than his alienations, againft [against] his heirs, nor againft [against] the donor" ... and "The donor accordingly is, by Englifh [English] writers, faid [said] to have an eftate [estate] in the land, which is a fee-fimple [fee-simple] on expectancy"

that probably sounds really boring, though if i tell you that the essay is about "entails" and accumulations of income trusts and the legal restrictions on such things then ... yeah, it's still really boring ...

Morning edd-I've fpent a wee while on line and can't find the anfer anywhere.

Gueff you're ftuck with it! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-22 06:35:56
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 21 2007, 10:36 PM) [snapback]246071[/snapback]
Perhaps if we had a better system in place there wouldn't be an exodus of talent going to the OF , St Midden or Aberdeen for that matter .For someone to be in charge of the youth team at Celtic then take such a disregard to our own , is shocking . I certainly like to see lads coming through rather than buying guys in which is a short sighted approach if you ask me .
We have a good tradition of bringing players through , it is another black mark against McInally in my book .

It seems an absolute contradiction in terms that JM is enequivocally concentrated on young inexperienced players, yet seems uninterested in bringing through our own kids.

TBH, I don't know if Jim IS the one to blame. That's the sort of long term policy which should be the province of the board.

Let's face it-the manager's on a relatively short term contract, whereas DDFR and Co. claim to be set on establishment and success in the SPL.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 06:42:59
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Mar 21 2007, 10:20 PM) [snapback]246062[/snapback]
The Morton support was an absolute disgrace on Saturday.

Myself and AT tried to get singing going in the stand but our "support" sat on their hands like frightened little lambs, scared to lend some encouragement when the team were obviously in dire need of it.

Nobody's asking you to shout and bawl like a lunatic but a tiny bit of passion wouldn't go amiss!

You should be ashamed to call yourselves Morton fans.

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Part of the problem was that the stand was half full of part timers-the diehard support wasn't unified. I saw dozens of faces I didn't recognise, and bear in mind I attend all games, home and away.

There was a bunch of guys in front, and I asked if I could borrow a programme to checkout the ref's name. As one handed it over he asked-'Who's the Stirling manager?'

I'm damned sure anybody with more than a passing interest in the Ton, would know the manager of our nearest rivals. Come to think of it-why didn't HE check his programme?!
mortonjag 2007-03-22 07:07:03
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Mar 17 2007, 11:49 PM) [snapback]244122[/snapback]
Couldn't agree more, the players all worked today and deserved their win - until McInally struck. Even guys like McAlister and Millar, and to an extent McGowan, who have been rather poor of late looked much hungrier and contributed more than they have in several weeks/months, but the substitution killed us both in this game, and perhaps for the league.

Stevenson was sensational in the second half for me, pivotal to the game and everything we did seemed to flow through him and subsequently Templeman, and he also contributed a lot defensively. To take him off, especially for a "player" so bad as Keenan was utter lunacy, and I'm not even starting on his display. Suffice to say, I hope he never pulls on a Morton jersey again...even as a fan! mad.gif But anyway.
[b]The blame for today lies at the hands of McInally, who proved the final few nails for his coffin, and a sledgehammer to drive them home. He has to go at the end of the season regardless.
Also, perhaps he's not the only person in authority who's position has to be reviewed - step forward Mr Rae. How can we possibly trust this guy to provide us with a manger to take us forward [/b]considering his previous record in that field? Cormack, McPherson, McCormack's renewal/non-sacking and now McInally have all been utter failures, even if the latter does deliver us the title this season. His promises have all fallen through - 3 year plans, guarentees of titles by March and April blah blah blah. He either needs to take a step back and have a good long look at his role, or hand over the day to day reigns to someone with the slightest clue of how to run a football club. Extreme? Maybe, and no doubt some of our resident head-in-sand brigade will start whining about being thankful we have a club, but it's blatantly obvious that we haven't progressed at all in the last few years, considering the resources we have in relation to other clubs.

The players are just wee boys-they've been crying out for help from somebody who's 'been around the block'.

JM is also a 'wee boy' in terms of football management-it's been staring us all in the face for a long time, and at last the majority seem to acknowledge it.

DDFR is, IMHO, the biggest 'wean' of the lot, and the true villain of the piece. He may well have demonstrated some success in the relatively simple area of 'make for a quid and sell for £1.50', but that in no way entitles him, or anybody else for that matter to imagine he knows the first thing about running a football club.

The only way ahead is for Dougie to accept reality, and take a sidestep into honorary chairmanship.

I don't know if any of the present board of directors could do better, but if they can't, SURELY they can appoint someone on a salary, who can take the reins and steer us forward to where we should already be.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 07:23:18
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Mar 22 2007, 12:10 AM) [snapback]246106[/snapback]
You wouldn't happen to be posting from an asylum somewhere? "Self deluded state of grandeur" the coat fits sir, you wear it well.
It very obvious that retirement for "one who until a few years ago regularly worked sixty hours a week in a very high pressure job" has presented new problems for you. I think your the one who needs help, it's not my sanity that's in question.

That personal attack's a classical example of a poster who's enjoying a good 'wind up' which you've categorically denied, or of one who is absolutely raging because he realises he's put his size 10's in it yet again, has run out of logical and sensible debate, and has suddenly grasped the fact that his opinion is now shared by only a small minority of posters.

To get back to the original point of the thread, the overwhelming opinion is that this is our unofficial forum where healthy debate and diversity are the norm.

We seem generally agreed that although the Board, management, and players can log on if they so desire, that is ENTIRELY of their own volition. We are totally immune from any consequences.

One thing I take great exception to is your deliberate suggestion that I am trying to undermine the set up. Fortunately my fellow posters appear to regard that with the derision it thoroughly deserves.

A final thought-even if you have put your hoose and life savings in the 'safe keeping' of Messrs. William Hill, there are more important things in life than money! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-22 07:36:27
QUOTE(marx @ Mar 22 2007, 01:02 AM) [snapback]246116[/snapback]
Outside the stadium after the game some guy had one of the balls in a carrier bag

That's it. I know not interesting but nothing else to say just thought I would add my bit.

... the other hung normally and bore the tattoo, 'There's only one Colin Cramb'.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 07:47:40
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 22 2007, 06:54 AM) [snapback]246135[/snapback]
this is what worries me more than anything; the general acceptance of underachievement that permeates the club. and if it comes from the very top, things aren't going to change for a very long time.

I agree in principle but my 'take' is slightly different-I get the horrible feeling fairly often that DDFR STILL thinks everything in the garden is rosy, and that patience will be rewarded.

Very few have been spouting 'but we're top of the league' this week.

FACT- we are.

The nightmare scenario is that we will get promotion which I fully expect, and that next year DDFR's master plan will still be 'order of the day'.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 07:49:23
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 22 2007, 07:11 AM) [snapback]246139[/snapback]
I didn't, but thanks. I shall be having a word in someone'e ear later today.

Gents, you're splitting hairs!


Price is negotiable. Cost is determined thereafter.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 07:54:03
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 22 2007, 07:37 AM) [snapback]246144[/snapback]
the long s was only used at the beginning or middle of a word.

Oh well, you've rekindled my wee boy dream of smokin one of those 'Paffing Cloudf'-don't know if any of the posters can remember that brand of fag, but it definitely had an 'effin' end, as undoubtedly did many of its users.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 07:56:29
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 22 2007, 07:04 AM) [snapback]246137[/snapback]
Be sure to wave your union jack on the way over........

If I brandish my saltire, I shall be promptly incarcerated for frightening old ladies.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 07:58:51
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 22 2007, 07:56 AM) [snapback]246150[/snapback]
Spoiling your ballot paper is an entirely valid political act and has a long tradition in extreme left and anarchist circles.

Go for it. wink.gif

Is it also an entirely valid political act to write 'F*CK JOKE MCCONNELL on it?
mortonjag 2007-03-22 09:02:21 I'm concerned that this remarkable turnaround in opinion is largely a reflection of huge disappointment in Saturday's result, rather than a genuine call for JM's head on a plate.

If we win all of our remaining matches because the boys get it together on the park yet again, I'm afraid there will be a huge swing back in his favour-all will be forgotten, and St. James will resume his hallowed position in the eyes of the majority.

Before any of you reply, consider one thing-is it probable that a man who has learned nothing in over two seasons of management will suddenly find the magic formula?

I say NO!

We will owe it to those young players, who despite a season of frustration, inexplicable allegiances to a chosen few, and a singular lack of a motivating force on or off the park, have still managed to 'pull it off'.

The St Johnstone and Killie performances came from our boys-NOT because of any master plan hatched elsewhere, and demonstrated an ability which has been relentlessly squashed by our manager's total lack of nous when it comes to team selection and tactics.

I guess they're all too fragile right now to take a new boss on board, and I believe they will still 'do the business' by themselves.

Thereafter McInally, as the original poster suggested, MUST go, if we've any chance of moving on.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 09:09:05
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 22 2007, 08:01 AM) [snapback]246153[/snapback]
Yes.

Then it shall be done, with the subscript

'Davie McArthur made me do this'. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-22 09:17:27 Some of the posters titles are misleading-for example 'DunoonTon' lives in Glasgow, and ArgyllsTon is a soldier.

It seems to me that quite a high percentage of our members, like myself, live outside Inverclyde-possibly one reason we keep together on the forum.

I left the area as a young student, and for reasons of employment have never been back. I have (at the last count) 10 SPL/SFL teams closer to my home than Scapa, but my love of the Ton has remained steadfast, even through the darkest times.

It would be interesting to hear of others' experiences.

I live in the Shawlands/Newlands area of Glasgow, and can walk to Hampden in less than half an hour.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 09:33:02
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 22 2007, 09:25 AM) [snapback]246166[/snapback]
Never lived in Inverclyde, always stayed in North Ayrshire. Irvine until I was 3, then Saltcoats ever since then.

Whence your enlightened choice of football club?
mortonjag 2007-03-22 10:01:15
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 22 2007, 09:29 AM) [snapback]246168[/snapback]
But did you donate £0.5m? Souter will get nought if the SNP don't end up in power. But he'll get something if they win. No one gives that amount of money without some expectation of payback. And the SNP, by taking the money are, although indirectly, endorsing Souter's views.
I still think that Souter is anti-independence and his donation is a way of making the SNP look bad. If they'll take money from a right wing nutter like him - who can they refuse money from?

Ms. Sturgeon made what may be construed as an instinctively defensive response to the question-she may even believe it!

That theory is, of course, supported by Mr Souter's legacy of relentless support for the poor, the disabled, and the discarded of our Nation.

This supreme act of altruism may indeed be the pinnacle of a life's mountain studded with acts of purity, honesty, and self denial.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 10:03:00
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 22 2007, 09:34 AM) [snapback]246174[/snapback]
My grandparents live in Fancy Farm, and my dad was born in Greenock.

We may assume then, that your Mum does not come from Pishley!!
mortonjag 2007-03-22 10:05:02
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Mar 22 2007, 10:02 AM) [snapback]246181[/snapback]
Dunno, there used to be about 4-5 that would be in the Hall (on Sauchiehall street) after games and i always see a guy on a Monday night, playing badmington at the Gorbals leisure centre and he often has Ton gear on. Therefore using my powers of deduction (adding a few on & including us) I would say 12-15 that i know of!

I'd guess it might be nearer 40 or 50-I've started a thread on the other side.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 10:11:36
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 22 2007, 10:03 AM) [snapback]246184[/snapback]
saltcoats

Both my parents were Greenockians, but I left the immediate area when I was seven, and was (YES!) educated in Pishley. Most of my mates at school were either Huns or Skunks, but my pal and I started going to Scapa together when we were thirteen, and it just went on from there.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 10:36:20
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 22 2007, 10:18 AM) [snapback]246192[/snapback]
How eggstravagant!

You cant ovoid that wee 'funny'.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 10:42:29
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 22 2007, 10:21 AM) [snapback]246193[/snapback]
He's already on Clyde 1, how much higher can you possibly get? ohmy.gif

...which is where I first heard Billy Connelly-1972-I'm sure-Just Radio Clyde in those days- and he had just put some of the first classics on tape like 'the crucifixion', 'the jobby wheecher' and so on. Not very long after that my wife and I saw him 'live' in the old Apollo, and he literally brought the house down.

Bear in mind he was still relatively unknown. I remember one guy in the front stalls got up-presumably for a piss, and he bellowed 'YOU---SIT DOWN WHILE I'M SPEAKING'-and of course the place was in complete uproar. He was a natural genius in that kind of setting.

Unfortunately, like so many of our native talents, he's gone with the flow.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 10:56:31
QUOTE(steveoath @ Mar 22 2007, 10:51 AM) [snapback]246201[/snapback]
I live in Yorkhill (Glasgow for the uninitiated). But only for the last 4 years. Greenock/Gourock resisdent for my formative years. Dad was brought up in Weir Street and Gilmour Street and took me to my first morton game at the tender age of 4. Loyalties have remained ever since.
Steve

Take it you're the guy who constantly barracks JM!
mortonjag 2007-03-22 11:04:41
QUOTE(steveoath @ Mar 22 2007, 10:57 AM) [snapback]246203[/snapback]
I thought you couldn't be transferred twice in a single season dry.gif

Probably so, but was Paul not already a 'free agent' when he signed for us. I imagine that wouldn't count as a transfer.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 11:08:33
QUOTE(princessTON @ Mar 22 2007, 11:04 AM) [snapback]246206[/snapback]
i live in greenock, was born here and i live about a 10 minute drive from the stadium

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mortonjag 2007-03-22 11:11:52
QUOTE(WullTon @ Mar 22 2007, 11:09 AM) [snapback]246210[/snapback]
Lived in Greenock all my life biggrin.gif The Bow and now The Broomy laugh.gif

I remember Bow Farm-where's the 'Broomy'?
mortonjag 2007-03-22 11:29:11
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Mar 22 2007, 11:15 AM) [snapback]246216[/snapback]
Broomhill.

Drumfrochart Road area just down from teh Old Merino Mill.

Just up from Walkers, I think it was called that, Sugar House

You know where I'm talking about ??

I do indeed-I was sure it was Broomhill, but I've lived up here for so long that I think of Broomhill as being between Partick and Jordanhill!
mortonjag 2007-03-22 11:33:39
QUOTE(steve-ton @ Mar 22 2007, 11:22 AM) [snapback]246223[/snapback]
If he leaves now he will be allowed to take the role of assistant manager at Forfar but he won't be allowed to register as a professional player ..... although he might be able to play as an amateur

That's bizarre-a 'player manager' who gets paid for one job and not for the other?
mortonjag 2007-03-22 11:36:22
QUOTE(steve-ton @ Mar 22 2007, 11:27 AM) [snapback]246224[/snapback]
Just been looking at the Forfar website and apparently Darren Gribben has been AWOL for the past 2 weeks. Hopefully that's their only real goal threat ruled out then. It also says that David Keogh (centre back) has gone AWOL after recovering from injury.

You've got to feel sorry for the Forfar fans. OK they're a much smaller bunch than us, but they love their team just as we do.

As I recall, the last time they were so decimated, Bobby Linn knocked in four against them.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 11:42:22
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 22 2007, 11:36 AM) [snapback]246228[/snapback]
More like ?0.5......

You may not agree with his views on Section 28 or his religious views, but so what? If he's backing independence, good for him. I don't think he has done anything illegal AFAIK, unlike many donors to Labour, and the Tories have always received money from big business. The SNP gets the majority of its funding from individuals in small amounts and it's a pleasant novelty to get a big donation. It's hardly like taking money which is the proceeds of crime for example, or from someone like that Mittal chappie (or should that be Lord Mittal?).

I don't agree that Souter will get anything as a returned favour. If he's expecting that., I suspect he's going to be disappointed. Likewise Sean Connery - do you assume he's wanting something in return for his donations?

Independence isn't all about money, you know. What's that saying about knowing the price of everything and the value of nothing?

Undoubtedly-Connery wants kudos, and Souter wants something less innocent-who knows what it is Alibi, but leopards just don't change their spots. When it dawns on Salmond's lot that they're drinking from a poisoned chalice, hopefully, as you suggest, they'll keep the dosh and boot him to f*ck.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 11:45:46
QUOTE(princessTON @ Mar 22 2007, 11:19 AM) [snapback]246221[/snapback]
that result wouldnt surprise me................i really want to go to forfar sad.gif will someone take me? laugh.gif

If you wish to meet me and my brother in Glasgow, our chariot is at your disposal. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-22 12:21:47
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 22 2007, 11:55 AM) [snapback]246242[/snapback]
"my brother and I" tssk tssk auld yin. rolleyes.gif

Anyway, back on topic, could this game be another Dumbarton? Lets hope not, how the players react on Sunday will be a measure of how likely we are to win the league. A good win is required.

If you wish to meet me (and to meet my brother), or, If you wish to meet my brother, (and to meet I),- I'll leave you to choose young Sir!

Aye notastar, I agree- it's very much down to those boys-if the heads are up we'll knock in plenty.

I have great faith in the lads this weekend.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 12:29:24
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Mar 22 2007, 11:46 AM) [snapback]246234[/snapback]
I changed it from Walkers to The Westburn but it was known as Walkers at one time wasn't it ??

Anyway.....
The only reason I support Morton is because it’s cheaper than going to any other club and I don’t need to travel far.

You see I live on the streets around The Willow Bar and the locals usually take pity on me and buy me a pint.

Usually there’s the odd syringe or two kickin’ about as well and there’s always a wee drop of stuff left in it to inject myself with.

On top of that I usually rummage through the Chemist at the West Station’s bins and lick the top of the empty methodone containers that he’s disposed off.

Then I go round the chippies at shutting time scrounging for the chips they’re planning on binning.

Obviously during the day I beg my entrance money to Scapa, but I thought that went without saying.

Ahh but you’re wondering how I have access to a computer – EASY – I just got a crisis loan off the Social, when I was in picking up my daily drink money, obviously this was merely to pay for the Broadband Line rental as I just got one of the ‘Boys In The Know’ to nick the computer I’m using.

I hope that’s an adequate explanation as to why I support Morton.

This is not the Sunday Herald Website!

For that reason we'll forgive your lie about the chips. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-22 12:30:37
QUOTE(princessTON @ Mar 22 2007, 11:11 AM) [snapback]246211[/snapback]
what? cappielow then

'The groon'. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-22 12:53:42 Certainly much more pro active than Dougie telling us we're deserting the cause and if we don't give more he won't either.

To whoever got this started-'Well done'.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 13:34:10
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 22 2007, 01:07 PM) [snapback]246274[/snapback]
My father wasn't interested in football at all. I can remember him taking me to a Greenock Juniors game when I was about 10. In 1963, just at the end of the long cold winter when it was snowy until about April, we were getting a garage built by 2 of my Dad's patients, Joe Rodgers and Tommy Mullan (I think Joe later had a DiY shop in Gourock) and they were both Morton fans. They persuaded my Dad to take me to a game in about April or May 1963, vs Queens Park at Cappielow I think. We won 4-1 but I coudn't tell you much more than that. The next season was 63-64 and you couldn't wish for a better season for recruitment purposes. I got a junior season ticket in 1966/67 (£3 for the whole season including cup games) and I've been going ever since.

You lot who are recent conscripts have low aspirations - us older fans remember when we were one of the top 5 teams in Scotland, possibly the best team for a time until injuries and our smallish squad meant we slipped back a bit - but no-one came to Scapa expecting to get anything out of the game apart from bruises from Bobby Thomson and humiliation from Andy Ritchie.

You can change your woman, and some of us have frequently, but you can never change your football team.

Eh-I tried changing mine for over twenty years but she was more stubborn than JM, and eventually kicked me out.

Best thing that ever happened mind! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-22 13:38:58
QUOTE(Robert the Bruce @ Mar 22 2007, 01:20 PM) [snapback]246277[/snapback]
What nationality do you put on your form even though if not Irish it points to something else.

I put Scottish as always.

Q. When do you usually get your voters card back i had to re-send it?

I always used to be told never to say I'm 'Scottish'. The correct term I was told is 'Scots'.
Haven't a clue whether or not it matters, but another debating point for the claymore crowd!
mortonjag 2007-03-22 14:23:05
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Mar 22 2007, 02:18 PM) [snapback]246292[/snapback]
No self-control rolleyes.gif

Seriously though, as I said earlier, if players want to come on the board, they should only do so after a win because they might not like what they read after a defeat when many posters get a bit overboard with their criticism. So long as fans encourage and cheer on their side at the game, it doesn't bother me what they post on a messageboard, but it's the guys that seem to go to games just to shout abuse at players. Maybe it makes themselves feel big telling a player who can't see who is shouting at them what he thinks. Damn sure 99% of fans wouldn't say these things to big Mathers, Greacen, Harding etc if they were face to face.

Oh also, all players should block Mortonjag, for the sake of their morale! laugh.gif

Ya cheeky b*****d-I DON'T slag off the players-I'm not taking any blame for that! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-22 14:52:52
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Mar 22 2007, 02:01 PM) [snapback]246290[/snapback]
Once more you show your naivety when dealing in an open forum. You are not immune from the consequences, far from it.
The players, manager and board don't need to log on to be made aware of what is being discussed on an open forum. Journalist , people in the street, friends all have the ability to question the players and management on the content of this message board. This is no secret society, this is an openly talked about forum which has done damage to the club before at one time or another. Our previous webmaster can testify to that.
You may not be deliberate in your attempt to undermine the current setup but when we are facing one of the biggest challenges we have had in the last few years your continual bickering shows a lack of loyality to the club.
As for your final thought, oh how I wish it was, what are you talking about? Time for you to get back on the medication.

You are probably more pig headed than the man I'm happy to criticise.

So the posters on this forum ARE NOT IMMUNE FROM THE CONSEQUENCES!

What the hell is that supposed to mean? You are so facile I can hardly believe you can construct a reasonable sentence. What you are unashamedly doing is trying to upstage Hugh Scott. How dare you try to muffle our legitimate opinions and debate? Let the reader or talebearer beware-if you don't want burned keep away from fire.

I'm led to believe that 'gagging' of the press is forbidden in this free and democratic country. We are entitled to this pursuit, and I've repeatedly made the point that I and others are quick to give praise where it's merited. You can't have it both ways.

I was not a board user at the time of the alleged situation, but perhaps some of our posters can give their comments about your assertion. Currently we are involved in legitimate debate-nothing more, and nothing less.

My posts may very well demonstrate faltering loyalty to an inept Board, and an ineffectual manager, but I take exception to your libellous comment that I am disloyal to Greenock Morton, an institution viable only on the strength of an active fanbase.

Yet again, you come over as someone with a vested interest, rather than the simple love which most of us have for OUR Morton.

That was the reason for my final 'tongue in cheek' comment.

mortonjag 2007-03-22 15:00:34
QUOTE(cmdc @ Mar 22 2007, 02:59 PM) [snapback]246300[/snapback]
Of course, it could be the case that McInally has tried to add experience but found it difficult to attract QUALITY experienced players to the second division. We know he signed Mathers, and we have some reason to believe he tried to sign Grady and maybe even Tosh. Should we go up, with higher crowds (and therefore, you would hope, an increased budget) and First Division status I'm sure it will be easier to attract the right kind of experienced player to Cappielow, if that is what is needed.

Plenty of experienced motivators in the second division as we know to our cost cmdc.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 15:19:40
QUOTE(McCauley87 @ Mar 22 2007, 03:10 PM) [snapback]246303[/snapback]
Having read all these posts I have to say I agree with the majority. We have a right to have our opinions and to express these opinions, within reason, and this forum allows us to do this. Every fan that uses this forum has a passion for Morton and wants to see the club succeed and reach the highest level. If the board, players, management team come on this board then they should take what is said with a pinch of salt, as we can be a bit over the top at times, and use what is said to motivate them to improve their performance or maintain their performance, dependant on the type of comments, and to do the best for the club. Without us, the fans, there would be no club.

If any fans are to be criticised it is those who could to games and hurl the abuse during the games. I for one, no matter what I say on here, support the team that is out there on the pitch on matchdays wheter I think it's the right team or not and so should everyone else.

I think I'll need a lie down after backing up mortonjag laugh.gif

laugh.gif

BTW mortonjag NEVER lies down! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-22 15:24:23
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 22 2007, 03:18 PM) [snapback]246309[/snapback]
Great choice...

I shall refrain from making any comment lest it incriminate me! rolleyes.gif

Och tae hell-astute guy who's worn the teeshirt and knows how to get the best out of players and plays them to their strengths-just ask Mr Finlayson! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-22 15:29:11
QUOTE(cmdc @ Mar 22 2007, 03:05 PM) [snapback]246302[/snapback]
I understand that, but many of them are part-time and not overly keen to give up part-time football, taking Veraille as an example of one who, again in fairness to JM, we did try to sign.

In other words we may have shot ourselves in the foot with this creed of only full timers.

Mind you we still have the reported comment from 'Hagi', and it's only VERY recently we heard any mention of JM perhaps acknowledging the need for an experienced holding player.

I'm assuming that's what he meant by his post Stirling comments.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 15:32:42
QUOTE(edd @ Mar 22 2007, 03:26 PM) [snapback]246314[/snapback]
well spotted - a brief perufal of fome other areas of the book confirm that this feems to be the cafe smile.gif

the closest i could find was this: Æ’ ... though i think that's normally used in maths equations, eg. Æ’(x) = 2x + 1. definitely an f and not an s anyway. i'm sure i won't get marks off for using the modern letter "s" where the author uses the long "s", but i still want to use the archaic form, just to look smart tongue.gif

If you want real originality, do what we all had to do at Uni.-write!

Leave a blank each time-print out, and neatly pen in the effin' esses! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-22 15:35:13
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Mar 22 2007, 03:14 PM) [snapback]246306[/snapback]
I remember seeing the wee turd outside hampden at the European cup final and I walked past him in the hoops.

His face was a picture.

I wanted to punch him but I just walked past proud as punch and seed

“aye well we are still there shug you wee c***â€

Forgot the chiv did you? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-22 15:59:55
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 22 2007, 03:46 PM) [snapback]246325[/snapback]
Let's get promoted and then we can attract a bigger range of players. Although I don't think we are a mile away from a very good team at the moment.

Actually Alibi we HAVE a very good team at the moment-certainly at this level. The missing link is how to get them firing on all cylinders consistently.


Incidentally, I can't understand why, when I continually stress the positive aspects of things at Scapa I am still touted about as some kind of scapegoat because I see what's wrong as well.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 16:04:51
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Mar 22 2007, 03:38 PM) [snapback]246322[/snapback]
Having not tread the Tele but just folks comments on here.........
Big Sanny was having a good game and for JM to say it was to stop a Red Card is ridiculous.
Why then didn't he haul him off just after his booking if he was so worried about Sanny missing the next game ??
If he got a Red he'd have missed the Forfar game. If we can't do without him against that lot we've no hope in the 1st Division.
Did JM say that Stevenson came off because of injury ??

That's what bamboozled me too. The forthcoming game is not only 'in hand' but is against a side with absolutely nothing going for it, and we were playing a 'six pointer' against our nearest rivals.

FFS we could have been TEN points ahead come Sunday, and virtually unassailable. sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-22 16:07:51
QUOTE(steve-ton @ Mar 22 2007, 04:05 PM) [snapback]246333[/snapback]
IMO we need a centre back & a holding midfielder, also a left-sided midfield player & a left back as I don't think McAllister & MacGregor look entirely comfortable in their respective positions. We would also need another striker if McGowan goes back to Celtic.

Steve, I've avoided this debate for some time, but we're desperately crying out for at least one decent winger. Sanny's proving a real asset with high balls, but they almost always come from behind-we hardly ever get behind the defence at either corner flag, and whip over a decent cross.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 16:11:35
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 22 2007, 04:05 PM) [snapback]246334[/snapback]
Along with one of their defenders. Plus they have a long injury list and are struggling to put out a team. If we can't win by a barrowload on Sunday we should chuck it.

OUCH-where have I heard that before? sad.gif

We have hit our rock bottom Tonsilitis, and this is a gilt edged chance for the boys to get back on song-I'm convinced we'll run out easy winners.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 16:15:38
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 22 2007, 03:36 PM) [snapback]246318[/snapback]
I think it would be daft to turn down half a million quid from a donor who, although some may dislike him and some may disagree strongly with his views, hasn't done anything wrong as far as I am aware. I don't know him and I am aware that lots of people don't like him, but so what? Lots of people seem to dislike Douglas Rae but I don't see them suggesting Morton should turn down his input. Souter is as entitled to donate money to a political party as anyone else, and if he had given his dosh to Labour, they would be eulogising him. Much of the current criticism is because unionists don't like the idea that the SNP are winning and they are trying to do something, anything, to prevent independence or even an SNP government.

It's nothing to do with my enemy's enemy is my friend. And before Labour start throwing accusations of cash for favours around, they should perhaps consider why the Metropolitan police are so busy visiting Downing Street, and why virtually every big donor to Labour now has a Lordship or a knighthood.

Aye Alibi, but 'shoogly' doesn't pretend there's nothing in it for him, and therein lies the question.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 16:17:31
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 22 2007, 03:37 PM) [snapback]246321[/snapback]
Eggsemplary 'jag sleep.gif

...and hatched out of nothing!
mortonjag 2007-03-22 16:19:15
QUOTE(briggsTON @ Mar 22 2007, 04:13 PM) [snapback]246340[/snapback]
First saw Morton with my father when Jimmy Cowan and Tommy Orr were playing.
Left Greenock in 1966 one night when they left the gate open.
Have lived in Bishopbriggs for 30 years and still come down for all the Saturday games.
Through thick and thin although thin mostly !

Totally commendable AULD yin! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-22 21:42:10
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 22 2007, 04:37 PM) [snapback]246351[/snapback]
These puns do my head in! You lot are an absolute yolk.

Suit yer shell.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 21:47:54
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Mar 22 2007, 06:41 PM) [snapback]246388[/snapback]
I've always lived in Glasgow. I was brought up in Somerville Drive right next to Hampden Park and when I was 7/8 I moved over the hill and now stay near Shawlands.

So why the Ton?
mortonjag 2007-03-22 21:50:28
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 22 2007, 09:45 PM) [snapback]246499[/snapback]
Why is it always a 'bed of rice'? Why not a 'floor of rice'? Or a 'pavement of rice'?

...or a mountain of rice.....
mortonjag 2007-03-22 22:17:59
QUOTE(one of the sheep @ Mar 22 2007, 06:48 PM) [snapback]246390[/snapback]
Baaaah!

How dare you say oor Deadly Duglas is to blame for mortons bottle crashing for the 4th season on the trot, it is not our prescious doogie to blame for us being so bad that other teams can get out of this leage and we cant, or for missing sitters five yards from an open goal. Its YOUR FAULT, the f***ing fans fault, not doogies fault so leave him alone you b*****ds.

Doogie is our savoiur, he never stood in oakmall with a bucket or cleaned snaw of the pitch but he single handed saved our club and anyone who disagrees is a total c***jockey and a st.mingin supporter. In fact, oor doogie is so good he is really the son of god and can do no wrong. he should be nailed to a cross so we can wear his image round our necks til forever.

GET BACK IN LINE AND KNOW YOUR PLACE
signed

A. Sheep

Wait 'til 9 Strathblane Cr. sobers up, you woolly headed Aberdonian dick trap-ye'll be DEAD MEAT! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-22 22:24:01
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 22 2007, 09:30 PM) [snapback]246486[/snapback]
Simple truth is that we haven't had as good a striker as McGowan since Williams went off the boil.

Eh-our best striker's been playing right back all season-JM's told him he's a 'No. 2' so often that he loves when people shout 'Spoonsy yer s***e'.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 22:51:15
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 22 2007, 10:39 PM) [snapback]246523[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2007-03-22 22:54:29
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Mar 22 2007, 10:42 PM) [snapback]246527[/snapback]
My uncle's mate is orginally from Greenock and got my uncle into Morton, who in turn took me to my first game when I was 12.

Ah!

Well don't forget you must live about half a mile from me, so if you're stuck for a lift to games I usually have a spare seat.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 22:56:23
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Mar 22 2007, 10:53 PM) [snapback]246540[/snapback]
Ye have to agree though MJ, it is funny

Funny my arse-it's me 'to a tee'-he's been here-I know it. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-22 22:56:54
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Mar 22 2007, 10:53 PM) [snapback]246541[/snapback]
Stop picking on wee boys and pick on someone your own age tongue.gif

In fact is there anyone your age on here tongue.gif

ME
mortonjag 2007-03-22 22:58:52
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Mar 22 2007, 09:56 PM) [snapback]246506[/snapback]
It just is mellow.gif

If you make your bed you have your fry in it.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 23:02:24
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 22 2007, 08:48 PM) [snapback]246445[/snapback]
People who order spicy food from the Indian clearly don't like the taste of the food... as Vindaloo is completely tasteless!

Your palate can be educated young sir-try a chilli chicken masala-at first it just tastes 'all burny' but wait 'til those subtle flavours filter through. Kormas are pleasant if you're into sweeties-better compromise is a masaledar.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 23:08:40
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 22 2007, 10:33 PM) [snapback]246521[/snapback]
Spot on Taun Ton , if our rantings had any positive or negative effect on the team , we'd all be complaining about going to Hampden yet again and do you think it will take us until the end of March to win the 1st Division next season .
If those people believe that we can have such an impact on the team then sack JM and we'll get Street Walker in his place .
It would be nonsensical for the fans to shoulder the blame for the managers failings this season or in the past . The only reason he is still here because of a fear by everyone that a new broom might have to take another season for his changes to work .
IMHO I feel that this fear factor has given McInally an easier time than he and his charges have a right to expect .

Indeed Chrissiboi, and '9 Strathblane Cr.' insists he's 'not at the wind up', but is happy to question my loyalty to the club in an extremely unusual and sensitive manner. I have challenged his obviously 'hidden agenda' but he refuses to 'come clean'.

I STRONGLY suspect he's no ordinary Ton fan, but has some kind of vested interest in the club.

I now await a knock on my door at five in the morning.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 23:20:17
QUOTE(Superton @ Mar 22 2007, 10:53 PM) [snapback]246539[/snapback]
I've tried to avoid this site this week because I didn't think I could stomach the negativity likely to be spouted on here by a minority of our "fans". But I've failed, and here I am with my blood boiling.

What short memories some of our "fans" on this board have. Be reminded of a few facts. A few seasons ago, we were nearly out of business. We have a Chairman, Board and Coaching team who are undoubtedly 100% commited to the club, and, vitally, ambitious for the future. We have a generally young and talented squad; one which is full time, in great physical condition and whilst not the finished article, is improving year on year. We've spent money on players. Let me repeat - we are ambitious. We've won 20 out of 29 league matches this season.

And, oh yes, I nearly forgot, we're top of the league with a game in hand.............

So what happens? A few poor results from us, an exceptional run by our only challenger, and a minority of our "fans" jump on the easy-ride, "sack the manager" bandwagon. So Jim's substitutions didn't work out on Saturday. Is he the first manager to make substitutions and have it backfire on him? I seem to remember Jim gambling earlier in the season at Cappielow with his subs and it working out just fine thanks................but of course that's forgotten now. Minor things influence the outcome of football matches. Linn sticks that chance away and I guarantee that the mood on this board would be "7 points clear, maybe we were all just a bit harsh on the team / manager, maybe things are quite bright.................etc". JM may not be the finished article, but his commitment to our cause is not in question.

So here's the thing, from a lifelong Morton fan. We want out of this division. You are either with us or against us - there is no middle ground. Get behind our team, our manager and our club, and let's get on with winning this league.

There are almost two thousand registered members, each and every one of whom is entirely free to post as he or she desires. What makes you say the current ground swell of opinion is in the minority?

A 'few poor results'! we have blown what appeared an unassailable lead twice, throwing away the most crucial match of the season at Stirling. You claim we're improving-deja vu if you ask me.

We are, to a man, behind Greenock Morton Football Club. That is WHY we are not prepared to tolerate further ineptitude from the chairman and manager.

As the previous poster stated, you're just trotting out lame excuses for a pathetic squandereing of the potential we have.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 23:26:27
QUOTE(maurtaun @ Mar 22 2007, 11:10 PM) [snapback]246552[/snapback]
Could you please show me the 'spare seat'.....

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mortonjag 2007-03-22 23:30:17
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Mar 22 2007, 11:15 PM) [snapback]246557[/snapback]
And how did you answer that delicate question?

'Depends'!
mortonjag 2007-03-22 23:44:58
QUOTE(SramTon @ Mar 22 2007, 11:38 PM) [snapback]246567[/snapback]
Yep. I didn't even disagree with the switching of Stevenson with a more defensively-minded midfielder.

It's just that with Keenan you know that at some point in every game, irrespective of whether he's on for 90 minutes or 9, he's going to put in a reckless challenge.

When I saw he was coming on I knew what was coming. I was just hoping that he didn't do it in a dangerous area or get himself sent off in the process.
We can debate Keenan's attributes as a footballer for as long as we want. What it comes down to though is that when we needed a cool experienced head more than ever, we put on a youngster with a proclivity to rashness

... leaving our two experienced players on the bench!

You're very hard on Deano-he's not the finished product, but it's been agreed by numerous posters that he can 'lift' a game with his energy-AND he's been MOTM twice this season.
mortonjag 2007-03-22 23:50:43
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 22 2007, 11:45 PM) [snapback]246572[/snapback]
Maybe DDFR is holding them hostage until we get our 3 points on Sunday .

Needless overkill I'd say. Poor guy just can't get anything right!
mortonjag 2007-03-23 00:23:06
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 22 2007, 11:48 PM) [snapback]246573[/snapback]
So is he your under cover milkman laugh.gif

mmm-might explain the new baby's 'millions' birthmark. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-23 00:30:18
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 22 2007, 11:42 PM) [snapback]246569[/snapback]
Osterich ton he should be called ! You are either for us or against us .
Do you think he intends to put us against a wall and shot at dawn with a blindfold on , personally I think that guy has to take his off .

It's also strange that he appears straight after the brilliant post from 'A. Sheep', and after which I alluded to our friend at Strathblane Cr.

Vive la resistance! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-23 05:55:43
QUOTE(SramTon @ Mar 23 2007, 01:54 AM) [snapback]246595[/snapback]
I don't think I'm being harsh on Dean at all. To my recollection I've never commented on his abilities postively or negatively on this board.

All I have said is that he has a tendency to launch into a reckless tackle once per game. I noticed this about 2 or 3 years ago and, whilst I don't have a record of each tackle, I feel it's been borne out by observation since.

I think he's old enough to know better. But I also stand by my view that he was not (emotionally) the right type of player to bring on at that stage on Saturday.

If 'ifs and 'ands' were pots and pans'!

You're right about that, but had Deano turned the game for us, it would have been SO different, and as I stated he's capable of getting things moving.

Apart from JM he's been the biggest scapegoat for Saturday's disappointment, and I think that's OTT.
mortonjag 2007-03-23 07:15:22
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Mar 23 2007, 07:03 AM) [snapback]246610[/snapback]
no point mate, the JM haters are right & no amount of talking sense will make them sway their opinion.
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
i'd say about 500 of those have at least 2 identities on here, probably more, & not forgetting the gimps from other clubs.
probably only about 700-800 ton fans registered on here.

rolleyes.gif

If you try much harder you'll have it down to 7 or 8, and Strathblane Cr et al will still blame us for their mistakes!
mortonjag 2007-03-23 07:18:16
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 23 2007, 07:09 AM) [snapback]246613[/snapback]
So why you butting in? tongue.gif

I assume he also 'BELEIVES'
mortonjag 2007-03-23 08:14:03 In today's paper, the chairman's quoted as saying 'It's unlikely they will play for for the club again'.
mortonjag 2007-03-23 09:03:21
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 23 2007, 08:45 AM) [snapback]246632[/snapback]
The reason they've gone AWOL guarantees that wink.gif

DO tell!
mortonjag 2007-03-23 09:12:30
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 23 2007, 09:05 AM) [snapback]246641[/snapback]
Nope, not my place... it'll appear in the press in the fullness of time.

My goodness, what a BIG secret-guess it's got to be with being naughty. Now two young lads-could it be drugs (possible), booze (probable), or maybe they've just run off to get married. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-23 09:15:16
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 23 2007, 09:12 AM) [snapback]246648[/snapback]
Not far off. I say no more...

J suffering C...somebody FOUND that pencil sharpener at last.....
mortonjag 2007-03-23 09:36:58
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 23 2007, 09:25 AM) [snapback]246659[/snapback]
Not my story - someone I know who was at Fettes with Blair. I do think the pair of them are a bit mental, and FFS would any normal man marry Cherie? smile.gif

That's an interesting post. When we previously discussed Winston's theories, I commented on institutional homosexuality, (and on ritual buggery-as evidenced in New Guinea), neither of which precludes a basic heterosexual drive.

Boys 'messing around' has been commonplace in post pubertal public schoolboys since ever they existed-hence the term 'fag', and many of the participants assume a normal heterosexual life when they 'grow up'.

Mrs Blair, mind you, has all the trappings of a partner in a 'marriage of convenience', and I for one, find her repulsive, both physically and intellectually.

Edit to add-you can still type 'bugger' but not 'p***y' -yer wee moggy-very odd I'd say.
mortonjag 2007-03-23 09:43:12
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 23 2007, 08:11 AM) [snapback]246626[/snapback]
What's with all this meat ? Bad karma, so it is. If you want authenticity remember 75% of Indians are vegetarian. That's what the smell is when you step off the plane at Delhi. I cannae believe this thread anyway. Recipes ? You'll be exchanging knitting patterns next, ya bunch of jessies.

DE cannot knit! sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-23 09:44:15
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Mar 23 2007, 09:40 AM) [snapback]246663[/snapback]
And why not,it makes a change to see you lot show your softer side,helping you relax after a very tense week mellow.gif mellow.gif mellow.gif

Erm-at the moment it tends to be 'very tense weekend'.
mortonjag 2007-03-23 09:47:16
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 23 2007, 09:25 AM) [snapback]246658[/snapback]
Stirling's third last game is Ayr at Somerset so maybe Ayr could do us a wee (big?) favour. It would be nice to go into the last game win the championship won. Of course we have the small question of Brechin and Raith away before then!!!

It has been decreed. It will be done! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-23 10:07:40
QUOTE(gdo @ Mar 23 2007, 09:56 AM) [snapback]246669[/snapback]
Anyone know the dates for the playoffs? Thought I would ask as I reckon we will be involved and I'm planning holidays for May. Would hate to miss yet another balls up by McI and Co.

I thought you were being cynical but I notice you checked the same thing two seasons ago.

I for one haven't bothered with playoffs. One game at a time and champions with one to spare, beginning with a comprehensive humping of poor Forfar this Sunday.
mortonjag 2007-03-23 10:24:33
QUOTE(gdo @ Mar 23 2007, 10:22 AM) [snapback]246680[/snapback]
I fully expect us to lose all our away games for the rest of the season and finish up second some way behind Stirling. Upcoming games against Brechin and Raith away will be a good indicator of how we will fair in the playoffs and whether we are playing Second Division football again. Sorry to say it but I think we're doomed again. Getting out next season could be an altogether tougher prospect aswell just looking at who is coming down. Airdrie most likely and one of Ross Co., QoS or maybe even Livi.

Welcome friend!

I have been relieved of the title 'Mr doom and gloom'. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-23 10:34:48
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 23 2007, 10:32 AM) [snapback]246690[/snapback]
No need to be so neggative young man. . . . . . . . . .

I think they're cracking.
mortonjag 2007-03-23 10:42:31
QUOTE(stubaws @ Mar 23 2007, 10:33 AM) [snapback]246694[/snapback]
our fans are understandably frustrated with the second division but they have been like old firm fans this season - spitting the dummy when we dont win and expecting miracles purely on the basis that we have a much larger support than any other team in the league. i go to all home games and went to most away games last season but only made a couple this season, and every game i go to i cringe at the amount of garbage that comes out of some of our "fans" mouths. admittedly i was livid on saturday when we bottled it but i get more angry at the idiots who find fault in absolutely everything the players/management attempt to do. cowshed has been diabolical this season, why should the players acknowledge these so-called "fans" when they give them dogs abuse throughout the game?

There's no way you can really stop it I'm afraid, unless it's so ridiculous they 'get lifted'.

The support at away games seems to be more united and generally tries to get behind the boys, but there's hardly any opposition fan activity to really get us going.

From a personal viewpoint, there's absolutely no point in barracking the players if they're doing their best, and I never 'have a go'.

Well, except at the ref, linesmen, and opposition!
mortonjag 2007-03-23 10:44:22
QUOTE(SPL AND WE @ Mar 23 2007, 10:41 AM) [snapback]246703[/snapback]
Do you play for M*rt*n? laugh.gif

Gr**n*ck M*rt*n in fact!
mortonjag 2007-03-23 10:47:09
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 23 2007, 10:40 AM) [snapback]246702[/snapback]
Well some might say this is a very fertile conversation. Some may even go as far as saying fabergelous

I regard that alleggation as ovoidly exeggerated.
mortonjag 2007-03-23 10:52:55
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 23 2007, 10:46 AM) [snapback]246707[/snapback]
Click me now

Says he was punched by 'a fan' at Stranraer a couple of years ago. While playing for us I assume....?

He was indeed.
mortonjag 2007-03-23 11:12:32 Pat Glenn, weightlifting commentator - 'And this is Gregoriava from Bulgaria. I saw her snatch this morning and it was amazing!'

N.Z. rugby commentator- 'Andrew Mehrtens loves it when Daryl Gibson comes inside him.'

Ted Walsh -Horse racing commentator - 'This is really a lovely horse. I once rode her mother.'

Harry Carpenter at the 'Boat Race' - 'Ah, isn't that nice. The wife of the Cambridge President is kissing the Cox of the Oxford crew.'

PGA commentator of 'Arnie' - 'One of the reasons he's playing so well is that before each tee shot, his wife takes out his balls and kisses them.'

Carenza lewis of Time Team Live'. 'You'd eat beaver if you could get it.'

Steve Ryder of 'Seve' - 'Ballesteros felt much better today after taking a 69 yesterday.'

Clair Frisby of a Jumbo hot dog on 'Look North' - There's nothing like a big hot sausage inside you on a cold night like this.'

Mike Hallet of Stephen Hendry - 'Stephen jumps on Davis' misses every chance he gets a chance.'

Ken brown re Faldo's caddy f****y Sunneson - Some weeks Nick likes to use f****y, other weeks he prefers to do it by himself.'

FFS Now you canny even write F****y if it's somebody's name-oh and why the FOUR asterisks?
mortonjag 2007-03-23 11:24:53
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 23 2007, 11:22 AM) [snapback]246729[/snapback]
Incorrect !
Stevenson was and still IS raging about being taken off, he was fine, no strains, just the usual JM............straight from the horses mouth ! mad.gif

Hush thee-9 Strathblane Cr. has spies. sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-23 12:51:47 Mortonjag in mobility scooter with his brother and the monkey in the trailer-don't throw bananas as you pass-he's allergic to them.
mortonjag 2007-03-23 12:54:26
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 23 2007, 12:13 PM) [snapback]246739[/snapback]
You've really got it in for this Strathblane guy eh? biggrin.gif

I've got it in for EVERYBODY, but especially for private detectives masquerading as fans.

Anyway '9 Strathblane Cr.' started it!!! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-23 12:56:19
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 23 2007, 12:29 PM) [snapback]246742[/snapback]
A yes man for Romanov, why would he want out of Hearts? blink.gif

Well, going on your first comment, he has the ideal qualities.
mortonjag 2007-03-23 13:06:24
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 23 2007, 11:26 AM) [snapback]246731[/snapback]
It doesnt make sense then that our away record is so poor compared to our home record if its the fans that are upsetting the players dry.gif

The fans only respond to what they get for their money. If we were running away with the league and banging in the goals smiles would abound.

The players' inexperience is to blame, the fans are to blame, this forum's to blame, a drunk having a go at big Stu in hospitality's to blame, teams putting ten men behind the ball's to blame, Cappie's periods coming at the wrong time's to blame-EVERYTHING's to blame except the Board and management. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-23 13:15:32
QUOTE(SPL AND WE @ Mar 22 2007, 06:11 PM) [snapback]246376[/snapback]
And best of all you would have 1st Division football on your doorstep. laugh.gif

...even when you go home at weekends.
mortonjag 2007-03-23 13:18:23
QUOTE(shedhead @ Mar 22 2007, 09:24 PM) [snapback]246479[/snapback]
I know mate , looks so drab and s*** . I'm considering a few different places . Cumbernauld makes the most sense but I really don't fancy it .

Muirhead/Moodiesburn/Chryston/Stepps area has some nice housing at not too daft prices.
mortonjag 2007-03-23 17:16:02
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 23 2007, 02:53 PM) [snapback]246816[/snapback]
I think we need a full time manager, i do not know if having a full time assistant taking the training and the manager just being there on match day and the odd training session is the best idea.

I agree-Neil Watt was so tied up in business that he effectively quit football until now.
mortonjag 2007-03-23 17:20:07
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 23 2007, 03:45 PM) [snapback]246841[/snapback]
Well you know where he lives ! wink.gif

Oh I'd imagine that his address will be as phoney as he is, but the monkey's working on it! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-23 17:27:14
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 23 2007, 03:36 PM) [snapback]246834[/snapback]
It's all about how you say it. If you are to say that it's fact when it quite clearly isn't then yes it would be libellous. However if you are to state that it is unconfirmed and is alleged and you recognise the info is not first hand then you are fine is my understanding as you are posting to the best of your knowledge and in good faith. I am not a lawyer though.

Will no doubt get further coverage if true, particularly in this PC era and the recent you can't call people Gaylords at the footie press releases from the govt and police.

Right on man-in my humble opinion, there is a possibility that you are a rampant poofter and shag sheep for practice! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-23 17:30:53
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 23 2007, 05:08 PM) [snapback]246893[/snapback]
After the Forfar game wink.gif

Excellent-when and where's the party-I'm polishing up the Zimmer already! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-23 17:33:28
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Mar 23 2007, 01:17 PM) [snapback]246769[/snapback]
I don't like how you never individually blamed yourself.

IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT !!!!!!

You hear me ya moany unsupportive git....

IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT !!!!!!

You know what comes after the No. 9 ??
Yes It's 10.

Anymare pish and I'll invent a 10 Strathblane Cr tongue.gif

Gie's peace-I've only just got over a sleepless night waiting for that heavy knock on the door. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-23 17:36:42
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 23 2007, 01:30 PM) [snapback]246775[/snapback]
Maybe you typed it Fannny?

I'm sure I typed f****y- Fannny seems OK! sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-23 17:51:37
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Mar 23 2007, 05:38 PM) [snapback]246913[/snapback]
Darren Gribben and David Keogh have gone awol and Paul Tosh has said that they wont play under him nor will they be part of any of his training sessions.

...we know that, but who is doing what and to whom? smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-23 17:53:09
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 23 2007, 05:40 PM) [snapback]246915[/snapback]
Great ! You can give me a backie through the Cappielow gates first thing on Monday morning, need to look good for the waiting press biggrin.gif

OK if the monkey comes-I'm sure he'll feel quite at home? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-23 17:56:02
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 23 2007, 05:36 PM) [snapback]246909[/snapback]
The usual two will start up front but we are having more players up - wingers putting balls into the box. Apparently we have worked hard on this at training this week.

I wonder if the wingers are Miller and McAllister or maybe we are going for Finlayson and Russell?

Jim says he's got it fixed!

Oh dear-here we go again-Kev ain't ever a winger, though I don't see why he shouldn't get a start. Sunday's far more about attitude than wingers. Will JM NEVER realise than doing wee drawings on a blackboard went out with the ark?
mortonjag 2007-03-23 17:58:07
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 23 2007, 05:50 PM) [snapback]246924[/snapback]
I can't wait to see Andy McLaren in an Ayr shirt ESPECIALLY if we've won the league by then mellow.gif Think the fan banter has the potential to be the best ever.

IF we're safe, and Ayr have nothing left to play for, I'm sure Andy will give us all a good laugh.
mortonjag 2007-03-23 18:00:33
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 23 2007, 05:57 PM) [snapback]246932[/snapback]
So Thats him !!! I can see where you're coming from now laugh.gif

Correct-I'm sure in real life he's 'an awful nice man'! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-23 18:14:44
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 23 2007, 05:47 PM) [snapback]246920[/snapback]
He who kisses ass lasts longer dry.gif

ALLEGEDLY (again)

Donkey is the more acceptable title! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-23 18:16:05
QUOTE(ianton @ Mar 23 2007, 06:00 PM) [snapback]246935[/snapback]
bit like you then. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

mad.gif .... no..... laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-23 18:17:20
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 23 2007, 06:01 PM) [snapback]246937[/snapback]
If we didn't already know JM it would be quite distressing that with only 7 games to go in a season he still hasnt found the "right" formation.

Tinker

Tinker

Tinker

Tinker, tinker, soldier, dry.gif 9 Strat.......
mortonjag 2007-03-23 18:19:32
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 23 2007, 06:03 PM) [snapback]246941[/snapback]
No contradiction in terms intended i'm sure cool.gif

mmm? how cryptic!

....you have me thinking! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-23 18:21:57
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 23 2007, 06:09 PM) [snapback]246945[/snapback]
OR he could make all the substitution decisions? wink.gif

...once we're four up.
mortonjag 2007-03-23 18:25:21
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Mar 23 2007, 06:22 PM) [snapback]246962[/snapback]
Well that's no good - if you stand too far away you won't be able to pelt them with eggs.

Eggsactly-hope I beat him !!!
mortonjag 2007-03-23 21:08:37
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Mar 23 2007, 07:20 PM) [snapback]246986[/snapback]
Agreed.

The boo boys always get the blame for the clubs failings whereas the sycophants and excuse-mongers are the real cancer within our support. They are the ones that have led everyone at the club (including old shoogly himself) to believe that Morton supporters will accept any old s***e so long as it wears a blue and white top.

The brown-nosers in our support are the ones that the club can do without.

You don't miss and hit the wall, but on this I thoroughly agree.
mortonjag 2007-03-23 21:13:50
QUOTE(steve-ton @ Mar 23 2007, 07:38 PM) [snapback]246993[/snapback]
I have said I am eternally grateful to Dougie for saving Morton and I don't doubt that he and everyone else at the club are fully committed to Morton, especially given our recent history. I also believe we are ambitious, in fact in our time in div 2 we've probably spent more on our team than any other club that's been in this league (Gretna excluded). However, since we've been in this league, every full time team has gone up first time. Except us, now having our 4th shot at it. To me that suggests we are doing something wrong.

That's an understatement-two seasons ago we 'bottled' it. Last season JM promised he'd walk-we 'bottled' the playoffs' in superb style, and he stayed.

I fondly imagined things would change-they didn't. Our sheer resources, I believe, will get us through, but changes must come RIGHT FROM THE TOP.

'Auld shoogly' isn't doing anything for us-he's indulging himself with 'his' football club, like a property on a monopoly board, and it had better stop if we've any hope of moving on.
mortonjag 2007-03-23 21:16:12
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 23 2007, 08:10 PM) [snapback]247004[/snapback]
Ah but no Mr Mortonjag, would this be slander? An opinion voiced in public and not backed with evidence could surely constitute slander? Unless of course you offer expert opinion on the subject? I can guess you're prone to a pint or two in Tennants?

Anything clearly stated as an'opinion', is not (in my opinion), regarded as more than mere conjecture, as is your final comment.
mortonjag 2007-03-23 21:23:02 I don't get the Tilly up here. Did he actually say he's 'going to play wingers', or just, 'use the wings'?
mortonjag 2007-03-23 21:26:17
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 23 2007, 08:27 PM) [snapback]247018[/snapback]
I think the whole lot of them are to blame - the players, McInally, Doogie, the whole bloody lot. After all if our players are so good, tactics or subs shouldn't really matter against a part time outfit. To say they gave their best and still lost against Stirling is quite pathetic, if it had been against an SPL team then I'd say yes the players gave their all.

Yes, and no.

Remember we gubbed an SPL side (and a good one at that), when the boys were on song. I'd say they did give their best against the Binos, and were thwarted by two managers.
mortonjag 2007-03-23 21:34:45
QUOTE(forfarton @ Mar 23 2007, 08:58 PM) [snapback]247037[/snapback]
We'll be there - good to get the chance to walk to the game in less than 5 minutes. Don't go to TCs - it's full of Rangers fans. There are better places closer to Station Park.

sad.gif For a minute I thought you said you were going to'Walk the game'!
mortonjag 2007-03-23 21:39:11
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 23 2007, 09:34 PM) [snapback]247053[/snapback]
Them leaving, or why they're leaving... that's also quite funny laugh.gif

C'mon you, what's so funny-let us into the secret, or we might start imagining they're taking shots each at making you giggle.
mortonjag 2007-03-23 21:42:27
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Mar 23 2007, 09:34 PM) [snapback]247055[/snapback]
I don't have it in front of me but I'm fairly certain he said we'd "play with two wingers."

He also said there'd be a couple of changes. Whether it's changes in tactics or personnel was unclear.

Ta to you and Mags.

Next question-'Who are they'?

Russell showed at Stirling (last time around) that he can get to the flag and put a ball over, but I don't know of another true winger in the squad.
mortonjag 2007-03-23 21:48:34
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Mar 23 2007, 08:47 PM) [snapback]247033[/snapback]

Despite Forfar languishing at the foot of the table...JM said the players 'would not underestimate them', though what he really meant was 'If those young b*****ds don't get the finger out on Sunday, I'm for the chop'.
mortonjag 2007-03-23 21:57:03
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 23 2007, 09:50 PM) [snapback]247068[/snapback]
No Mags, I wasn't. My comments were made mostly to try and highlight that some posters who reckoned earlier in the season we are better than the 2nd division but still reckon we gave our all in a defeat to a part time team. That's illoggical as the cirumstances haven't changed. I also don't think it's fair to lay the blame squarely at the feet of McInally as we are supposed to have the best squad in the division, capable of beating any league team put in front of us.

It's a simple as this, the talent and desire are there and when it gels we are unbeatable at this level. The boys DID give their all on Sunday-this was FAR FROM A WALKOVER-more a daylight robbery by Stirling. Small things can turn games, and JM's never been a giant.

Do you know something? I've SERIOUSLY thought more than once recently, that if McInally and his tubby sidekick went off for a month's holiday and let the lads sort it out themselves, we'd do a damned sight better. It's sad, I know, but I mean it.
mortonjag 2007-03-23 22:03:36
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 23 2007, 10:00 PM) [snapback]247077[/snapback]
They're making Princess giggle too... it's one massive party! tongue.gif

I can well imagine someone gribben a princess, but what's it with you and keigh?

oops keogh
mortonjag 2007-03-23 22:07:35
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Mar 23 2007, 10:03 PM) [snapback]247079[/snapback]
On second thoughts, knowing McInally he'll have Jamie stuck on the wing and Chris in the middle. dry.gif

Ach-pick them oot a hat and £500 each for a win should sort it. Ask that duffer Alexander.
mortonjag 2007-03-23 22:10:01
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 23 2007, 09:47 PM) [snapback]247066[/snapback]
Perfectly ok to write 'none of the above' on the ballot paper.

...but with entirely different effect-bin v recorded.
mortonjag 2007-03-23 22:13:40
QUOTE(Mags @ Mar 23 2007, 10:08 PM) [snapback]247084[/snapback]
Fair point but last week was one of those games where you really had to be there to see it for yourself.

I'm fed up explaining to non Morton fans in work all this week that the players didn't " bottle it" and didn't "throw it away" In fact I was talking to a guy at Stenhousemuir on Sunday and he was gloating,saying the same but when I told him it was the manager who was to blame due to his substitutions he just laughed.He said he hoped we didn't get promoted,because of the St Mirren fan in him,then said he wanted us to get relegated so we could bring about 1000 fans up there twice a season...didn't realise it was Campbell Money I was talking to..!!

Mags.

Is that not what men-particularly REAL men- normally do when a woman voices an opinion about football? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-23 22:19:09 The cost to the public purse for policing this exercise is enormous-and to what end-the perpetuation of bigotry (from one side of the divide).

I guess the only consolation is the payback in terms of tobacco and alcohol taxation-come to think of it, they might end up in pocket. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-23 22:21:32
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 23 2007, 10:13 PM) [snapback]247087[/snapback]
All spoiled ballot papers are counted.

...and recorded as 'didny want any o' thae b's'? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-23 22:23:18
QUOTE(Mags @ Mar 23 2007, 10:22 PM) [snapback]247094[/snapback]
aye....some men still can't accept women in football tongue.gif
Mags,

wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-23 22:48:21
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 23 2007, 10:27 PM) [snapback]247097[/snapback]
Freedom of demonstration is a right in all free countries worthy of the name, including this one. Sadly it means having to put up with crap like this.

On the plus side, the kind of flotsam and jetsam that follow these things are going to surely give the event a bad name. The OO marches are the OO's own worst enemy in many ways, which is quite hilarious laugh.gif

Freedom of demonstration that you're a drunken bigot make be legal nacho, but let me tell you a true story.

A G.P. friend of mine was attending an emergency call (a child with apparent breathing difficulty), when he had to stop at the junction with a main road, where a huge 'orange' parade had just started to pass. He pled with the police on duty to let him through, and produced evidence of his identity, but was told that 'under NO circumstances' were they allowed to 'break the ranks'. He was held back for more than eight minutes.

In a twisted way, I suppose you'd want to hear that the child came to serious harm. That, in fact, did not happen-'by the grace of God' I guess.

So who decides on the rules determining 'free demonstration'? Why cant they all assemble safely in the National Stadium, or something like that, instead of adulterating the day to day activities of ordinary folk, and compromising their health and safety?
mortonjag 2007-03-23 22:51:11
QUOTE(leyTON @ Mar 23 2007, 10:27 PM) [snapback]247096[/snapback]
what if a none of the above party ran
you abstaining anarchists would end up voting them in wink.gif

The Nihilists rule at last!
mortonjag 2007-03-23 22:57:48
QUOTE(cmdc @ Mar 23 2007, 10:42 PM) [snapback]247104[/snapback]
It's a bit harsh to say he's doing NOTHING for us. The stadium is in great condition and always being improved. Considering the sad state of Cappielow when he took over thats a real achievement. The atmosphere at the Killie game proved what a great wee ground we have.

At the end of last season he could have seriously held back on the finances, but decided to fund another season of full-time football. Now, whether you think our full-time status damages us in this division or not, there is no doubt that the intention of remaining full-time was one which he believed would serve us best in getting out of the league and, struggle though we may, we are getting there; you have said yourself MJ we are getting there BECAUSE of our resources. Fans through the gate is a big part of that but so too is the sweetie money!

Sorting out the training base as well is something that will serve us well for a long time to come. For one thing, if some people get their wish and the manager leaves, imagine how impressive having a training facility will be to a potential new manager compared to the scramble for public parks that many senior teams (including SPL sides) go through.

I don't mean to be a sycophant, I just think that there are some pretty good things going on that come from the boardroom along with some of the mistakes.

I apologise, and commend your balanced and logical reply.

What I meant is that DDFR is doing all of those things not through altruism, but because he simply WANTS to-with little regard for the opinions of others. I've absolutely no problem with efficient benign dictatorship, if the wishes of ALL are fulfilled.
mortonjag 2007-03-23 23:03:45
QUOTE(princessTON @ Mar 23 2007, 10:53 PM) [snapback]247110[/snapback]
if mathers goes to forfar, it could turn him gray

Are you blind-he's as bald as a coot!
mortonjag 2007-03-23 23:08:14
QUOTE(cmdc @ Mar 23 2007, 11:04 PM) [snapback]247116[/snapback]
Yeah, I see what you're saying. Hopefully we'll make it up this season as Champions because the bare minimum of fulfilling the wishes of ALL will be competing in the First Division, until that point its really inevitable that a great deal of off the park positives will be (possibly correctly) obscured by one significant negative!

'I'm just a man whose intentions are good
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood'. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-23 23:15:13
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 23 2007, 10:52 PM) [snapback]247109[/snapback]
Well, I guess my vision of Scotland allows people to be what they want to be, even if they want to be a bit of a kn** biggrin.gif
Surely in that instance the police could (or at the very least should) intervene, though?

But in doing so they would be obstructing a statutory 'free demonstration'. I doubt if they would have tried to stop 'Trumpton' going 'hell for leather' with 'Blues and twos', and the drunken rabble would probably have been bright enough to concede, but had they allowed what appeared to be an ordinary car through, that would have been perceived as an outrage, if not a defiant Fenian 'two fingers'.
mortonjag 2007-03-23 23:19:09
QUOTE(princessTON @ Mar 23 2007, 11:04 PM) [snapback]247117[/snapback]
are you blond? blink.gif

No, I'm as bald as a coot too!
mortonjag 2007-03-23 23:22:51
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Mar 23 2007, 11:16 PM) [snapback]247122[/snapback]
Whatever the rights and wrongs of Connolly (and there are far more rights imo) his 'celebration' has been hijacked by the usual f*nn**s who simply use it as a vehicle to spout their bile. I'm sure Connolly would be proud of them.

As for the OO, the fact that we have drunken retards with their comedy uniforms marching up and down the streets of Scotland proclaiming their loyalty, just shows how far we have to go before we get into the 20th century never mind the 21st.

edited to add that is F ANN IES not Fenians for those who have trouble spelling smile.gif

surely you mean f*nn**s, SINGULAR, f****y! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-23 23:39:39
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 23 2007, 11:31 PM) [snapback]247134[/snapback]
Can't go as I'm playing myself - with the band that is. Sunday Jazz in Largs.

FFS a numbers man who digs jazz-you have risen in my estimation by 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,%

Do you blow your trumpet, or are you more partial to pulling your string?
mortonjag 2007-03-23 23:47:51
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 23 2007, 11:33 PM) [snapback]247137[/snapback]
i think the wingers do hold back to much, if you seen man u play against bolton last week 5 out of the front 6 were attacking, thats what we should do.

Bryan, I think I've finally lost it. I've been arguing all week over the definition of a 'striker' and now you're talking about 'wingers'.

Maybe I'm just old fashioned, but Jimmy Johnstone, Willie Henderson, Davie Cooper etc., (pardoning the 2-1bias) were 'wingers'-guys who beat the full back to get to the flag, pulling another defender out in the process, and then whipping over accurate crosses for the 'striker', centre forward, or whatever else you care to call the guy who gets on the end of them to knock past the hapless goalie.

Do we have such beasts at Scapa???
mortonjag 2007-03-23 23:51:35
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Mar 23 2007, 11:27 PM) [snapback]247129[/snapback]
I bow to your superior knowledge of Fannyhood tongue.gif

Her sister Robyn was a better shag!

Edit-see what I mean about poosy!
mortonjag 2007-03-23 23:55:17
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 23 2007, 11:41 PM) [snapback]247148[/snapback]
Brilliant - quick, someone phone a scientist - there's definite signs of cromagnum man on this board of late~

Is that 'Homo erectus'?
mortonjag 2007-03-24 00:06:59
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 23 2007, 11:50 PM) [snapback]247158[/snapback]
Do you just get oot yer bed in the morning and stay on this web site all day (and night)?

Man - c'mon, there must be more to life!? is this all I've got to look forward to?

1/ NO!

2? SUIT YERSEL' rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-24 00:39:44 I've never worn any form of clothing once my daily tasks are completed. I told God that's how it should be.

Nightgowns, pyjamas, dressing gowns, bed socks, house coats, electric blankets etc., are for...erm... ........................................................................................debate.
mortonjag 2007-03-24 00:53:26
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 24 2007, 12:11 AM) [snapback]247174[/snapback]
Go on - you do - you are always top poster on this board with circa 14-16% of the posts for the day - your addicted, right?

Nope-not at all-just a retired old gent who actively fills his day from about six in the morning 'til-well-bedtime!

If I gave you a diary for the day just gone, you'd probably call me a liar-especially the bit about that 'quickie' with Miss Upfrit next door, but it's all true-ask the monkey. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-24 01:04:31
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mortonjag 2007-03-24 07:58:01
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 24 2007, 06:58 AM) [snapback]247220[/snapback]
This is the big problem with both marches. Neither of them have a clue about why they're marching. And everyone knows that KB wasn't Scottish. Didn't he come from the Shankill Road?

In which case they are using their 'democratic right' to freely demonstrate, at great inconvenience and cost to the rest of us, that they are a shower of thick headed bigots.

Another example of this country going 'down the s***ter' IMO.
mortonjag 2007-03-24 08:08:19
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 18 2007, 10:31 AM) [snapback]244262[/snapback]
You're right enough Mr McB. Soapy Soutar and his pal Wee Eck. laugh.gif Salmond could be shooting himself in the foot by enlisting reactionaries like Soutar and Mathewson the 'merchant banker'. That pair used to fund the Tories didn't they? I doubt if they share a vision of an independent, progessive and social democratic Scotland that many of us (yourself excepted of course) look forward to.

Both are men whose 'raison d'etre' is money. There's been far too much flannel by our 'vested interest' posters.

When guys like that make any big decision regarding their dosh, they are INEVITABLY looking for some kind of payback-just as night follows day.
mortonjag 2007-03-24 08:31:29
QUOTE(Savo @ Mar 24 2007, 01:34 AM) [snapback]247201[/snapback]
While we're on the subject of McLaren, his autobiography is due out later this year. It might make for not too bad reading.

Andy McLaren book

... 'he discovered through psychoanalysis that he had been the victim of abuse in childhood', and this made him an 'alky' and 'junkie'.

If that's the kind of pish they're using to sell it, I've gone off buying it.

I admire Andy and have stalwartly defended him from day one, but c'mon man-WERE YOU, OR WERE YOU NOT abused as a child?

Did you not just discover it was a damned good foil in your battle to explain your problem, when that therapist started putting ideas in your head?

Talk about going round in circles! If he'd been the victim of child abuse he'd have known ALL about it.

I have some respect for rehabilitation clinics but they talk a power of s*** at times. The addictive personality is an inherited trait which manifests itself to a greater or lesser degree depending on socio- economic circumstances.

The most successful 'rehab' centre in Scotland is Castle Craig near Peebles. It is a registered 'hospital', but is simply a glorified clinic, coining in it on the back of the Scottish Executive's need to be seen to have an interest in addiction. Those places get huge public funding through the Social Services, and much of it is squandered, but they are largely unaccountable .

I literally laughed out loud at their most recent boast. They are using 'Equine psychotherapy' to treat addiction-simply put -the subject is 'taught' how to communicate with horses, and that sorts him out!

Aye right.
mortonjag 2007-03-24 08:39:06
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 24 2007, 07:44 AM) [snapback]247224[/snapback]
That phrase always bothered me... why a coot?

Coots aren't bald!

Surely a vulture or a uakari would make more sense?

Coot
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mortonjag 2007-03-24 08:45:18
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 24 2007, 08:41 AM) [snapback]247233[/snapback]
Ah, slightly logical now... still don't like it though laugh.gif

Nor do I-much prefer 'bald as an egg' which is not only more apt, but whips Edinton into a frenzy!
mortonjag 2007-03-24 09:04:28
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 24 2007, 08:55 AM) [snapback]247239[/snapback]
3 x No

Heard from a Forfar employee via someone down in Morton-town.

Heard...


What
mortonjag 2007-03-24 09:06:20
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 24 2007, 09:02 AM) [snapback]247244[/snapback]
You're such a cynic. biggrin.gif

...but rarely wrong! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-24 09:09:06
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 24 2007, 08:59 AM) [snapback]247241[/snapback]
Do the clocks 'spring' forward an hour tonight ?

I think they actually 'go forward' at four tomorrow morning. Doesn't mean much to most of us, but when you're on the night shift you've suddenly got an hour less to work biggrin.gif


....and get paid for mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-24 09:21:21
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 24 2007, 09:07 AM) [snapback]247247[/snapback]
Indeed , hurryup Mrs Mangel , tell us.

....apparently they were caught ripping the mascot's clothes off in a frenzied attack. When asked to explain they said they were starving and wanted to get beasted into a big puddin'.
mortonjag 2007-03-24 09:25:02
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 24 2007, 09:21 AM) [snapback]247258[/snapback]
I did give you a pretty big clue earlier... rolleyes.gif

Your only tangible clue would suggest that those young gentlemen are 'tea leaves', and have been trying to reset Forfar Athletic property.
mortonjag 2007-03-24 09:30:17
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 24 2007, 09:21 AM) [snapback]247256[/snapback]
And not one shred of evidence to back it up laugh.gif

Correct-no evidence is required to prove the irrefutable. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-24 09:32:06
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 24 2007, 09:30 AM) [snapback]247264[/snapback]
He's along the right lines...

Well, can we railroad you into a disclosure?
mortonjag 2007-03-24 09:36:03
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 24 2007, 09:32 AM) [snapback]247267[/snapback]
Sorry, ScotRail being s***e as they are, there was a points failure sad.gif

'points failure'-aha-throwing matches-naughty naughty!
mortonjag 2007-03-24 09:39:02
QUOTE(lush @ Mar 24 2007, 09:33 AM) [snapback]247268[/snapback]
Its a dressing gown. rolleyes.gif

...which I'm led to believe actually comes from ' undressing gown', a garment designed to protect one's modesty from prying eyes and worse.
mortonjag 2007-03-24 09:41:57
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 24 2007, 09:38 AM) [snapback]247274[/snapback]
Damn, that was an accidental non-clue... laugh.gif If that's what it was, it would have been a good one to use!

...drat-back to the 'tea leaf' theory-well I guess it's only a question of who stole what from whom, as they've brought the club into disrepute by their actions...IF that's the case.
mortonjag 2007-03-24 09:44:11
QUOTE(lush @ Mar 24 2007, 09:40 AM) [snapback]247278[/snapback]
Thats why im wearing mines now. wink.gif

na...get yer claes on ya lazy git-it's a lovely day outside, and this bloody forum does get addictive!
mortonjag 2007-03-24 09:47:47
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 24 2007, 09:15 AM) [snapback]247252[/snapback]
King Billy DID come from Scotland , he was from Bridgeton Cross. Remember we studied the poem about him in our English class
King Billy

Grey over Riddrie the clouds piled up,
dragged their rain through the cemertary trees.
The gates shone cold. Wind rose
flaring the hissing leaves, the branches
swung, heavy, across the lamps.
Gravestones huddled in drizzling shadow,
flickering streetlight scanned the requiescats.
a name and an urn, a date and a dove
picked out, lost, half regained.
What is the dripping wreath, blown from its grave
red, white, blue, gold
'To Our Leader of Thirty years Ago'-
Bareheaded, in dark suits, with flutes
and drums, they brought him here, in procession
seriously, King Billy of Brigton, dead,
from Bridgeton Cross: a memory of violence,
brooding days of empty bellies,
billiard smoke and a sour pint,
boots or fists, famous sherrickings,
the word, the scuffle, the flash, the shout,
bloody crumpling in the close,
bricks for papish windows, get
the Conks next times, the Conks ambush
the Billy Boys, the BIlly Boys the Conks till
Sillitoe scuffs the razors down the stank
it isn't the violence they remember
but the legend of a violent man
born poor, gang-leader in the bad times
of idleness and boredom, lost in better days,
a bouncer in a betting club,
a queit man at last, dying
alone in Bridgeton in a box bed.
So a thousand people stopped the traffic
for the hearse of a folk hero and the flute
threw 'Onward Christian Soldiers' to the winds
from unironic lips, the mourners kept
in step in step and there were some who wept.
Go from the grave. Thr shrill flutes
are silent, the march dispersed.
Deplore what is to be deplored
and then find out the rest
King Billy, Edwin Morgan.

Edwin Morgan, the Scots Poetry version of Art's Picasso,

Whatever turns you on I guess. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-24 09:50:05
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 24 2007, 09:46 AM) [snapback]247290[/snapback]
Baws....

....come from bawbags-if you insist on evidence, glance in the mirror Sir. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-24 09:53:02
QUOTE(lush @ Mar 24 2007, 09:48 AM) [snapback]247292[/snapback]
Thats a good one, coming from you. laugh.gif

I know, I've been trying to 'gee myself up' and get out into the sun for the last hour, but at least I've been doing something.

BTW do you know where I can watch the game today-I mean which TV lot has the rights?
mortonjag 2007-03-24 09:55:16
QUOTE(lush @ Mar 24 2007, 09:43 AM) [snapback]247281[/snapback]
Maybe they have been dipping their own teamates clobber? unsure.gif

more like 'clipping their own team mates dobber'-if the innuendo's anything to go on.
mortonjag 2007-03-24 09:58:32
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 24 2007, 09:54 AM) [snapback]247299[/snapback]
You're right, I have no evidence, just experience. And that leads me to question the motives of individuals or organisations who give large sums of money to political parties. Just like I said on another thread about free lunches.

It never ceases to amaze me DE, that so many highly intelligent people so frequently 'fail to see the wood for trees'.

That, incidentally applies to perception of 'behind the scenes at Scapa' too.
mortonjag 2007-03-24 10:06:41
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Mar 24 2007, 10:00 AM) [snapback]247303[/snapback]
any pub with sky sports.

my day is planned, a dozen cans, the living room, scotland v georgia followed by israel beating england and then out for a nice meal & few more drinkies with the missus.

Thanks and enjoy-mine's visiting her friend in Prestwick and I've to pick her up late afternoon. They've definitely got Sky sport so I'll drive down early-excellent! cool.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-24 10:19:13
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 24 2007, 10:10 AM) [snapback]247305[/snapback]
Picasso was a brilliant draughtsman and painter up to and including his blue period.
After that he went bonkers, either that or he was having a laugh at the sycophants, ripping them off at the same time. laugh.gif

I've always thought of 'impressionism' in art, music, or whatever, in terms of 'the Emperor's suit of clothes'. If the publicity's right you can 'coin it in' on the strength of deluded 'ego boosters' desire to be 'ever so'.

mortonjag 2007-03-24 10:36:24
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 24 2007, 10:24 AM) [snapback]247312[/snapback]
Picasso did impressions ? Could he do Tommy Cooper ?

'Not like that' smile.gif

I wasn't using the term in its accepted form in the art world. I simply meant giving the impression that something essentially worthless is of value.
mortonjag 2007-03-24 10:40:11
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 24 2007, 02:09 AM) [snapback]247207[/snapback]
I'll not be going. I believe that it is immoral to have sporting events on the sabbath.

'Sporting events' rolleyes.gif

This is a public execution.
mortonjag 2007-03-24 10:44:55
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 24 2007, 10:40 AM) [snapback]247318[/snapback]
I thought impressionism was, to use what I think is the correct technical term, all the wee dots. (Very small, defined brushstrokes.)

It's actually a HUGE school in art, but the term originated from, as you say, using 'naughty' techniques to create an impression.
mortonjag 2007-03-24 10:51:47
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Mar 24 2007, 10:45 AM) [snapback]247320[/snapback]
Good for you.
Middlesboro were in serious threat of going under back in the late 1980's, They were even locked out of thier own ground. They've reached several major cup finals since, including the UEFA Cup last year; and have established themselves as one of the top clubs in England. Charlton have bounced back from near oblivion to establish themselves in the Premiership too, in fact looking at English Football there are lots of clubs who were in as perilous a state as ourselves that have recovered and went on to be a success then. Off the top of my head:

Middlesborough
Charlton
Leicester
Hull City
Doncaster Rovers
Chesterfield
Derby County
Huddersfield Town
Northampton Town
Crystal Palace
Watford

Supporters of these teams wouldnt use a previous regime to blame for the present clubs failings, why should we?
Will our team ever become the finished article? Also, if Bobby Linn is the height of our ambitions then were f***ed.
Also, 20 wins out of 29 matches isnt Championship winning form.
If we dont take the full 3 points from that game, then what?
We sacked a better manager and replaced him with Jim McInally, who is not the finished article. What does that suggest? Also, Williamson wasnt the 'finished article' at Killie, but he won the Scottish Cup shortly after he was appointed and they qualified for Europe regularly in subsequent seasons. Rowan Alexander wasnt the 'finished article' when Gretna joined the league, four years later he is sitting top of the First Division. Everyone will be sure to jump on the bandwagon saying that he bought that position, skill is involved in but signing the right players. Morton have had plenty of Money thrown at them over the past few years too so that isnt an excuse for our failings.
Your comments above remind me of the Duisburg fan who reared his head with a 'Get behind the team' post during the period when we threw it away in 2003/4 season. He was told to f*** off.

You are another one who blames everything on the support, not the players, another that accepts the mediocrity served up every week by prima-donnas and wannabe bravehearts like Graecen. This should be the easiest opportunity weve had to get out of the second division over the past four seasons, but rely on Morton to make it difficult for ourselves. I'm considered by many to be a 'boo boy', and on saturday i was with around half a dozen other 'boo boys' behind the goal, we did 'Get behind the team' but short of running on the park and playing the game for these poseurs there wasnt much more we could have done. It wasnt us who made inept substitutions, gave away a free kick on the edge of the area or missed two sitters in the second half. YET ITS OUR FAULT.

Even if we do go up, we need to gut this lot out otherwise we'll get found out bigtime and come straight back down.

I agree with just about everything except your sweeping ridicule of the players Narky.
Don't tar them all with the same brush-there are glaring deficiencies which an able manager will hopefully sort out IF JM goes at the end of the season, but there's plenty of raw talent waiting to be exploited properly too.
mortonjag 2007-03-24 11:19:49
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 24 2007, 11:10 AM) [snapback]247325[/snapback]
I have always called it a "goony". I have no idea why..I blame my parents!

tae stop folk havin a laff at yer wee Willie....


Winkie, runs through the toon
upstairs and downstairs in his nichtgoon ... 'goonie' or 'goony' Scots dialect word for 'gown'.
mortonjag 2007-03-24 12:38:01
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 24 2007, 12:01 PM) [snapback]247340[/snapback]
Don't be getting all luvvy on us lads ....... reminds me of the two old art light bulb jokes ......

How many art critics does it take to change a light bulb?
Five, one to do it and four to say, "My six-year old could do that."

How many surrealists does it take to change a light bulb?
Two, one to hold the giraffe and the other to fill the bathtub with brightly coloured machine tools.

As a very famous Scottish poet himself said,

Upon a hill there stood a dookit,
It's naw there naw cos some cúnt took it

or

Upon a hill there stood a coo,
It's naw there noo,
It must have shifted.

Now that's art !

TonInDublin

I saw a coo upon the road
A bull b' God wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-24 12:40:01
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 24 2007, 09:45 AM) [snapback]247287[/snapback]
Next time you're speaking, tell him that Morton should win the league.

It's been fixed-champions with one game left-God said it first!
mortonjag 2007-03-24 12:41:25
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Mar 24 2007, 11:24 AM) [snapback]247334[/snapback]
how do you know he's got a wee willy ?? ohmy.gif unsure.gif

It was just a guess-honest! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-24 12:42:11
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Mar 24 2007, 12:02 PM) [snapback]247341[/snapback]
A dressing gown is what I have called it, but heard of house coat etc.

Surely a house coat is bricks.
mortonjag 2007-03-24 12:45:58
QUOTE(steve-ton @ Mar 24 2007, 12:17 PM) [snapback]247348[/snapback]
Eh?

Indeed-and they proudly claim it's very expensive but worth it! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-24 12:50:17
QUOTE(steve-ton @ Mar 24 2007, 12:27 PM) [snapback]247351[/snapback]
No we have attacking midfielders playing out wide.

With a wee bit of hype, you could argue that with the exception of the goalie, the two centre backs, and Sanny, the rest of the regular first team is composed of midfielders-in fact it's not hype at all-it's a fact, and it's plain daft IMO.
mortonjag 2007-03-24 17:57:47
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Mar 24 2007, 12:08 PM) [snapback]247345[/snapback]
Do they not go forward at 1am huh.gif

Probably-it's so long since I did overnights-just seemed to remember 4 a.m!
mortonjag 2007-03-24 18:03:05
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Mar 24 2007, 04:30 PM) [snapback]247399[/snapback]
great Scottish poetry: -

The once was a fairy
a fairy called Nuff
Nuff the fairy
Fairy Nuff.
Here's to the men in the velvet jackets... rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

There once was a fairy
His friends called him 'Puff'
'Puff' the fairy
'Fairy' and 'Puff'. huh.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-25 08:08:27
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mortonjag 2007-03-25 08:11:25
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Mar 24 2007, 09:01 PM) [snapback]247468[/snapback]
I have had this debate with mrs weegieton on a couple of occassions. She calls it a house coat and I call it a dressing gown. I think it's a Glesga thing calling it a house coat, or that's the impression I got.

I had the same experience-only heard the term 'hose coat' when I married a 'Weegie'.
mortonjag 2007-03-25 08:16:00
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 25 2007, 12:55 AM) [snapback]247509[/snapback]
I must be posh but it's dressing gown for me.

DM I preferred your old fuzzy mug-why the change?
mortonjag 2007-03-25 08:20:39
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 25 2007, 12:48 AM) [snapback]247505[/snapback]
I can see what you're getting at.
The problem with representative democracy is that it abdicates all personal responsibility and is pish frankly.

...mmm... the same as running GMFC then? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-25 08:25:40 Akex Swankie from Sc***horpe is a complete dickhead, and his wife has a little kitten and a huge p***y.
mortonjag 2007-03-25 08:30:19
QUOTE(shedhead @ Mar 25 2007, 01:04 AM) [snapback]247518[/snapback]
Ach they bring a bit of colour to the street . Watch the vid and you'll see they're not that bad .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCmRyyygxOk

I'd rather see the 'Midden' celebrating something TBH. They may be every bit as bad, but at least they'd have a valid reason.
mortonjag 2007-03-25 08:32:58 [quote name='Davie McArthur' post='247522' date='Mar 25 2007, 01:12 AM']Brilliant!!

I once phoned the police at 7.30am when I lived in Greenock to complain of a 'breach of the peace' when the Orange band marched along Roxburgh Street walking me up. I was told that if I didn't hang up I'd be arrested for 'wasting police time'.

Years and years ago when I played in a punk band we set up our full band PA and played a set when the Orange band marched in Broomhill. We were told by the police to 'turn off for our own protection'.

Funny how the coppers can't or won't intervene when the bigots are about.[/quote]
I describe a similar -though potentially more serious incident of the same attitude earlier DM.

Incidentally-what's your instrument like-I have this vision of an alto sax-can't say why!
mortonjag 2007-03-25 08:40:31
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 24 2007, 04:07 PM) [snapback]247384[/snapback]
How opinions can change over the course of a season...

Morton fans prone to snap judgements? Never! laugh.gif

After the ritual decapitation of the Loons this afternoon, many local arses shall again face Mecca, seat of the Holiest of gamblers..



Makin Ali
mortonjag 2007-03-25 08:43:55
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Mar 24 2007, 07:35 PM) [snapback]247430[/snapback]
Yep, McInally take hint tongue.gif

Anything short of 5-0 for us is failure given Forfar's situation.
mortonjag 2007-03-25 08:48:48
QUOTE(Cawston @ Mar 24 2007, 09:50 PM) [snapback]247478[/snapback]
Ok, but at the same time how many times since the mid eightees have Morton been a point clear of any league with 7 games to go?

Now how many times have you watched mid-table mediocrity with nothing to play for or relegation scraps (which were rarely well fought mad.gif )?

I know what position I'd rather be in and I can understand why other posters who've been over the course are holding their criticism back until the leagues settled.

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mortonjag 2007-03-25 08:51:31
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 25 2007, 02:13 AM) [snapback]247550[/snapback]
aye, i know what you mean. i don't like to whinge and i don't at scapa (i even try not to on here, but fail every now and then) but i can still taste 2004 and the nausea is still with me. i was in prague when my pal texted me about the betting thing and i started crying in the bar i was in, albeit i was extremely drunk, but i hate idiots telling me i'm somehow less of a supporter than the guys wailing that everything is hunkydory. the guys on here who are critical of the current shambles are the guys who care most about the club as far as i'm concerned. anyway.

there are different faces on the pitch now but there is the same spineless attitude. the only thing in common is ddf rae. the guy worries me.

bit of a ramble but i am ... extremely... drunk at the time.

Agree, and

Agree.
mortonjag 2007-03-25 08:53:29
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 24 2007, 08:18 PM) [snapback]247449[/snapback]
Continuing with this slightly off-topic discussion, did anyone see Ulrika Jonsson "Am I Sex Addict"? They used horses in that to cure her, or at least help her come to terms with various issues... Just. Plain. Weird.

She's apparently much more accommodating nowadays.
mortonjag 2007-03-25 09:17:18 [quote name='cornbeef' post='247475' date='Mar 24 2007, 09:40 PM']I believe that many kids who are abused physically/sexually mentally (whatever) grow up thinking that what they are experiencing is part and parcel of 'normal' life , It's only when someone from outside the bubble of the family home tells them otherwise , that they realise that they've been treated badly eg a kid kept in a cupboard for years might think that 'this is my life' until somebody discovers what is happening. Who knows what Andy's life was like. Rather surprised that your massive intellect didn't grasp this. Perhaps you should stick to football management.[/quote]
He 'discovered' through psychoanalysis that he'd been abused in childhood, and that 'the abuse had led him down the path to drugs and alcohol'.

Cornbeef and 'mince' clearly compliment each other..

Of course many kids are abused and think it's normal, only to realise later it was far from it.

Psychoanalysis probes the unconscious mind. It is NOT a science, and far from an empirical pursuit.

In pure Machiavellian terms, of course, it often helps folk, but that's about it.

Andy inherited an addictive personality, and socio economic factors in his early childhood may well have dictated that he would turn into a full blown 'Alky', and 'Junkie'.

To BLAME his behaviour on the unfounded but welcome suggestions of some therapist is simply naive in the extreme-almost as naive, I'd suggest, as your having a go at somebody who clearly knows more about the subject than you.

Then of course, you may be a psychoanalyst!
mortonjag 2007-03-25 09:23:19
QUOTE(Savo @ Mar 25 2007, 02:30 AM) [snapback]247553[/snapback]
Maybe it would be prudent to wait until the book actually comes out and read what the guy is referring to first, instead of lashing out with a tirade like that?

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I doubt very much if he's suddenly going to turn round later in the book, and say, 'Naw, I was only takin' the piss about that 'shrink', and the abuse nonsense'.

Who knows? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-25 09:25:57
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 25 2007, 02:50 AM) [snapback]247558[/snapback]
I don't believe there is such a thing as an addictive personality, especially not one dependent upon socio-economic circumstances.

Fair enough, though the thousands of scientists worldwide who are reportedly within an ace of pinpointing the actual gene would probably disagree.

mortonjag 2007-03-25 09:30:55
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 25 2007, 09:12 AM) [snapback]247586[/snapback]
Sorry, but I refuse to contemplate sharing a boat with St Mirren. biggrin.gif

...that boat sails out from Shieldhall to Ailsa Craig every day DE!
mortonjag 2007-03-25 10:20:03
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Mar 25 2007, 12:28 AM) [snapback]247501[/snapback]
Only if you're going to be there. rolleyes.gif

Look forward to you wielding your chopper in public.
mortonjag 2007-03-25 10:21:59
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 25 2007, 09:39 AM) [snapback]247593[/snapback]
And for all those who will probably ask

My Controls > Board Setttings > GMT +1 hour

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Mine did it all by itself! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-25 10:25:52 After an absolutely glorious day yesterday, I was hoping for better. Apparently it will brighten up generally. The only part of Scotland forecast for rain later is The Aberdeen and Angus region.

Fingers crossed folks. mellow.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-25 11:17:09 Unless I'm very much mistaken, our game today doesn't appear anywhere-not even in fixtures.
mortonjag 2007-03-25 11:21:13
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 25 2007, 11:16 AM) [snapback]247614[/snapback]
The anti orange feeling on this board is terrible.

Here's my favourite Orangeman.

...so the man from Del Monte says 'FTP'? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-25 11:25:59
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Mar 25 2007, 10:32 AM) [snapback]247608[/snapback]

That's the summary for the whole day AT, but on the 24 hr forecast, it looks like rain later-hope not! sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-26 06:48:33
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Mar 25 2007, 01:07 PM) [snapback]247634[/snapback]
Typical Mortonjag post. A not-too-bad weather forecast for Forfar today and he's posting it on here as some sort of potential disaster for Morton. This guy's glass is always half-empty it would seem.

Away and f*ck yourself. That's just a personal attack and not even funny. Thank goodness the forecast for rain in the Aberdeen and Angus area (which I got from the BBC weather centre's 24 hour detailed summary) was wrong. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-26 06:56:47
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Mar 25 2007, 09:12 PM) [snapback]247823[/snapback]
I don't care Piehutt, if we win this league, it will be IN SPITE of Mortonjag. laugh.gif

9 Strathblane Crescent has ONE friend! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-26 07:13:28
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 25 2007, 04:59 PM) [snapback]247752[/snapback]
four goals is no way good enough against that piss, we are even giving hat ricks priority over goals scored, not good enough, must improve.

Aye midTONs, but you must give praise where praise is due-praise for CONSISTENCY-we ALWAYS make it harder than it needs to be. If JM had been concentrating on the game instead of sticking pins in that plasticene Deano, he'd have made somebody else take it.
mortonjag 2007-03-26 07:27:52 My observations:

Forfar were abysmal and ended up with ten men.

We scored four goals (three from 'defenders'), and missed a penalty (taken by a defender).

The gaping hole in their central defence was only attacked from set pieces. Where was that scintillating 'wing play', and those tantalising crosses from the corner flag? --Aye right!

Yesterday was a striker's dream day, and ours was played for the last 15 minutes.

(Spoonsy (our right back) was, is, and always will be a striker).

Gowser is a promising wee attacking midfielder, who's always a millisecond short of being a striker, and yesterday, he did hold the ball too much.

Jimbo definitely needs a change of position-totally stagnating where he is.

My MOTM-the Forfar goalie-great attitude and several great saves-well played.
mortonjag 2007-03-26 07:42:04
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Mar 25 2007, 11:18 PM) [snapback]247864[/snapback]
Both Jackton and I were quite amazed at the fact that Hardie did not try to get retribution as he has been known to do previously for the barage of abuse he came under today behind the goal.

In my opinion the stick he got today was totally out of order, I suppose just a few mindless idiots that are unable to understand or appreciate the knock on effect that this kind of abuse can lead to. It was probably the same group of people who thought it highly amusing to catch a ball that was kicked behind goal by Forfar in the pre-match warm up and kick it straight out of the park. - Yeah grown up behaviour that is isn't it?

FOOLS!

C'mon man-Hardie's a 'bawbag supreme'-yesterday he was on our side for a change-Forfar got no favours-a mistaken penalty decision, harsh bookings, and a daft red card. I'm not taking responsibility for this statement, but my brother said he seems to 'have it in' for black players.

He loves getting shouted at, but only by the fans-it makes the baldy wee c*nt think he's at a 'big' match, which he'll NEVER be!

I was right beside that group of lads who were 'messin' about. They were just being silly, and seemed a little inebriated. It was just daft to kick the ball over the wall, but when I think of some of the things I did at that age!
mortonjag 2007-03-26 07:53:02
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 25 2007, 10:59 PM) [snapback]247851[/snapback]
Its not that we haven't won enough games , it is the fact when a team going for the title while being pressed by others their form needs to be consistant .
We however have an uncanny knack of shooting ourselves in the foot at these crucial points of the season .
Also how many of those teams at the top have as big an advantage over the rest of their league opposition being the only full-time team .

Absolutely-it's funny, though entirely predictable, that the 'time to go Jim' train hits the buffers after one comfortable victory.

Did I sneeze and miss some inspired managerial turnaround?

I enjoyed the game, but I posted before it that given Forfar's predicament, anything less than 0-5 would be a failure. I stand by that comment, and await the ritual abuse!

Next Saturday it will be back to 'business as usual'.
mortonjag 2007-03-26 08:21:25
QUOTE(shedhead @ Mar 26 2007, 07:56 AM) [snapback]247888[/snapback]
Aye some failure rolleyes.gif

Do you think that 4 goals against the worst team in the league, who had to list two 'trialists', and ended with ten men is some kind of 'success story' then? It seems to me that when only one of those goals came from a recognised forward, there's still something amiss.

No comfort to me to hear on the way home that Stranraer, who 'mugged' us not so long ago, had FIVE put in against them by Beath, and GUESS who our opponents are this Saturday.

I KNEW this would happen-all the big mouths who jumped on the bandwagon of disappointment last week and wreaked verbal vengeance on JM have disappeared like snow off a proverbial dyke.

We were PROMISED wing play rolleyes.gif

We were told he'd 'change things around'-well I've got to admit that when it was BOUND to be about 'all out attack' Kev's much better than 'Midge'- rolleyes.gif

Yet again our only winger sat on the bench throughout the 90 minutes.

Yet again the man who knocked in four aginst Forfar earlier this season sat there too for nearly the whole game.

'We just have to keep grinding out results, and hopefully by the end of the season we'll have amassed enough points for promotion' Oh is that right Mr McInally? Yesterday was the day when if you had an ounce of imagination or tactical nous, we'd have run riot.

One final point while I'm on-was it YOU who let Stu make an arse of that penalty-because if it was, and IF we lose the championship by one goal on 'difference'-you're to blame. If not, of course, you can just blame the boys as usual. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-26 08:39:59
QUOTE(stuart @ Mar 25 2007, 05:08 PM) [snapback]247754[/snapback]
We have a 4 point lead over Stirling with 6 games left and we both have to play Ayr, Brechin, Forfar, Cowdenbeath and Stranraer, the only difference in the run in is we have Raith at home and they have Peterhead away.

Weird that we have so many games the same as each other.

I'd say that's quite a complicated sentence Stuarty boy!

Here's a simple sentence.

Makin Ali is clueless. (Subject, verb, and object).
mortonjag 2007-03-26 08:48:02 The BBC's weather forecasting service is 84 years old today.

Russell Grant it seems, could still do a better job at times.

How much is new fangled technology, and how much still guesswork?
mortonjag 2007-03-26 08:55:02
QUOTE(Doc @ Mar 25 2007, 05:56 PM) [snapback]247762[/snapback]
Just be glad its not like the multiple choice tests they had for my exams: negative marking!!!

If you answered any questions wrong they took a point away!!! Barstewards!!!

Are you telling me that they DON'T deduct a point for an incorrect answer now.

FFS, when I was at Uni, they were new fangled. You got 1 for a correct answer, 0 for 'no response' and -1 for a mistake.

The technique was simple-you went through the paper quickly answering the 'certs'. Then you carefully went through it again and did the 'almost certains', and you then sat back and waited 'til the end of exam time.

Even in those days you got the 'chancers' but at least there were winners AND losers among the gamblers.
mortonjag 2007-03-26 08:56:54
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Mar 26 2007, 08:53 AM) [snapback]247892[/snapback]
With any luck, commit mass suicide, they are all Lemmings are they not?

Orangemen and lemmings, as the old nursery rhyme goes.
mortonjag 2007-03-26 09:02:59
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Mar 25 2007, 11:12 PM) [snapback]247859[/snapback]
5 Goal Attempts 13
3 On Target 8
2 Off Target 5
0 Hit Woodwork 0
1 Corners 8
9 Fouls 11
2 Offsides 5
2 Yellow 1

I thought we had way more than 8 corners today! blink.gif

We had more than ten corners in the first half-I was counting them.
mortonjag 2007-03-26 09:11:49
QUOTE(shedhead @ Mar 26 2007, 09:02 AM) [snapback]247895[/snapback]
Catch a grip of yourself . If we had drew with them it would have been a failure . Sticking 4 past them is naw bad .

It's MUCH better than a draw, I agree, but HOW bad were Forfar?

We could, and should have scored a proverbial barrowload.
mortonjag 2007-03-26 09:35:11
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Mar 26 2007, 09:26 AM) [snapback]247899[/snapback]
You keep going on about a experienced manager being required what age was our most succesful manager in the last 40 years that i have been watching morton ie Benny Rooney when he took over as Morton Manager?

Fair question!

Hal took a 'gamble' when he recruited Benny and Mike, but as you know, Hal had an unusual habit of getting it right. Could it be that he knew a wee bit more about personality assessment and delegation than DDFR?
mortonjag 2007-03-26 09:39:53
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 23 2007, 10:45 PM) [snapback]247065[/snapback]
Anything that's based on lies and deceit is so wrong.

...and it's called POLITICS!
mortonjag 2007-03-26 09:42:37
QUOTE(carlito @ Mar 25 2007, 08:27 PM) [snapback]247792[/snapback]
What's that got to do with the fact it isn't in the paper THE DAY of the game?

....and they are 'Sister' papers.
mortonjag 2007-03-26 10:36:01
QUOTE(shedhead @ Mar 26 2007, 10:03 AM) [snapback]247906[/snapback]
Maybe , but i'll just be relieved to see us stagger over the line in first place . then in the summer we can get our house in order .

That's what I expect too, though I still see us doing it with a match to spare. Stirling will inevitably drop three or four points in their remaining matches.
mortonjag 2007-03-26 10:39:18
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 26 2007, 10:08 AM) [snapback]247907[/snapback]
Does JM have as talented a team.....despite them being full-time? wink.gif

Like for like, I'd say definitely 'YES'-don't forget (how could you) this is the scabby wee second bottom drawer we're stuck in.

The problem is, mind you, that more than half of the talent is comprised of midfielders!
mortonjag 2007-03-26 10:46:20 [quote name='Pat SharpTon' post='247909' date='Mar 26 2007, 10:11 AM']A thoroughly wholehearted display against a very poor Forfar side. Peter excelled in midfield and everybody did their bit. All the critique aimed at McInally's tactics before the game were shown up to be drivel and for me he got them spot on.[/quote]
Aye right. Left the striker on the bench for most of the game, AND our left winger who could have slung in cross after cross to capitalise on the non existent central defence (Jimbo looked lost).
Let big Stu take a penalty when we were desperate to improve our goal difference. Dropped 'Midge' in favour of Kev, in a game where we were ALWAYS going to be moving forward and benefit from creativity. Kept Scotty when Deano's 'gung ho' style would also have suited better.

AND admitted in the papers we should and could have scored far more, but as always, can't explain what went wrong.
mortonjag 2007-03-26 10:50:40
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 26 2007, 10:15 AM) [snapback]247911[/snapback]
Peter was, and always will be an attacking midfielder, which is where he played today and controlled the game. rolleyes.gif

Spoonsy was excellent in that role, but he was always a natural predator, and for me is a 'striker'. Certainly if almost everyone claims Gowser's a striker, Spoonsy is 'A STRIKER SUPREME'.
mortonjag 2007-03-26 11:06:08
QUOTE(Savo @ Mar 26 2007, 10:39 AM) [snapback]247919[/snapback]
"It seems to me that when only one of those goals came from a recognised forward, there's still something amiss."

The only thing that is 'amiss' here is any knowledge of football on your part. Any remaining semblance of credibility you have is shot to pieces with that half-baked, pathetic rant.

We were promised wing play and you got it. The first two goals were both off good crosses and there were many more we missed chances from. We won countless corners and throw-in's on the back of overlapping players getting into good positions and being tackled by defenders who were desperately doubling up. We worked plenty of good situations in wide areas. The changes he made worked to good effect.

We scored four, missed a penalty and their keeper made some excellent saves to prevent an absolute rout. Yet the best you can offer us is that the we did not 'run riot'.

Talking of the penalty I see you are blaming the manager for that too. What a surprise. Greacen has taken a well struck penalty and scored in a pressure situation at Love Street which - post-Lilley - made him as good a candidate as anyone else to have a go.

And finally - as for 'blaming the boys' - I have never seen a manager less prone to blaming his own players in my life. If anything he thinks the world of them and goes the extra mile once too often. You do not have any idea what you are talking about.

Total mince.

By 'wing play', footballing folk think of wingers, not 'people working well in wide situations'-FFS do you think a football match is normally played down a central strip? You're the one with tunnel vision.

The changes he made were pathetic. Linn and Russell could have made SUCH a difference. Jimbo was ineffectual, and Kev achieved very little going forward.

Stop trying to make excuses for a pathetic penalty-I ASKED if the manager allowed him to take it in an earlier thread-he certainly didn't stop him, and if you think he was more likely to score than Gowser, Sanny, or Jamie (to mention just three) you're plainly demented. Any eejit can blast in a good penalty-but the probability is that one of the others would have been more composed, and HE DID MISS!

Maybe I should have put the last bit differently, but he has repeatedly trotted out expressions like, 'We didn't put the game to bed'-'We've never been more in control of a game- but' etc. Only once to my recollection, has he said 'I got it wrong'. That is blaming the boys as far as I see it.

Like so many posters, you are blinded by misplaced loyalty. I prefer objectivity and honesty.
mortonjag 2007-03-26 11:14:16
QUOTE(Pat SharpTon @ Mar 26 2007, 10:56 AM) [snapback]247925[/snapback]
Bwahahaha. I think you need to get off those pills you're on. What a ridiculous post. Oh, and as for the penalty, McInally has no control over that on the pitch. If the captain says he wants to take then that's what he does.

Ridiculous?-not at all Sir-you have failed to explain why. Care to?

Makin Ali has as much or as little control as he cares to wield. A quick bellow from him would soon have stopped the 'I want my hat trick' nonsense, but then maybe he was asleep as he often seems to be.
mortonjag 2007-03-26 11:18:32
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 26 2007, 11:13 AM) [snapback]247929[/snapback]
What an eggstravagant statement to make!

You didn't eggsactly scramble to reply!
mortonjag 2007-03-26 13:15:49
QUOTE(steve-ton @ Mar 26 2007, 11:33 AM) [snapback]247935[/snapback]
ohmy.gif unsure.gif rolleyes.gif

You've not been keeping up with the timers Steve!
mortonjag 2007-03-26 13:18:11
QUOTE(ianton @ Mar 26 2007, 11:44 AM) [snapback]247940[/snapback]
and maybe a striker if he got a run in the team.

...or a winger if he even got a game now and then-JUST now and then , mind! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-26 13:29:42
QUOTE(Savo @ Mar 26 2007, 11:34 AM) [snapback]247936[/snapback]
There really is no end to the relentless pish spewing forth from you.

On what basis do you make the claim that Ryan Russell would have made 'SUCH' a difference.

I am not, as you would have it, 'blinded by misplaced loyalty'. On the other hand, you certainly talk about the game as if you are visually impaired to quite a substantial degree.

The word I used was COULD, and as far as I SAW, their central defence was virtually non-existent-as demonstrated by Stu's goals. It just SEEMS to me that drawing it even wider by playing two wingers-Millar could have adapted to that role as he's done before- and whipping over crosses, could have netted us a bonanza, and that a proper 'striker' would have had a 'field day'.

If making those suggestions is 'relentlessly spewing forth pish', and if I'm so visually impaired as you suggest, let's hear your analysis of the revolutionary and innovative tactics which saw us score four when eight or nine should have been the order of the day.
mortonjag 2007-03-26 13:35:08
QUOTE(steve-ton @ Mar 26 2007, 11:52 AM) [snapback]247942[/snapback]
I thought the system allowed us to get the ball into wide areas a lot more than we normally do, and we did score 2 goals from crosses. However, I understand where you're coming from, as McInally said we would play with wingers, but the reality was we played with wing-backs. TBH I don't see 2 out-and-out wingers in our squad, the best candidates would probably be Finlayson & Russell. I also agree that Jjimbo was disappointing again today. Just out of interest MJ, who would you have given the penalty to.

Good penalty takers miss now and again-Spoonsy for sure, and I can think of three or four others.

I've absolutely nothing against the big guy, but today's Herald report confirms what I thought. He wanted his hat trick, and nobody stopped him.
mortonjag 2007-03-26 13:43:33
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Mar 26 2007, 12:16 PM) [snapback]247946[/snapback]
To play away from home, especially after last week, no one knew how Forfar would play considering whats been happening at their club, and win 4-0 is a very good result, not a failure, this time i have to disagree with you there MJ. Infact for you to state that is absolute nonsense, worst statement of the weekend so far huh.gif

Maybe 'aye'-maybe 'no', but JM himself is saying we could and should have scored far more. I CAN'T understand, for the life of me, why Linn wasn't utilised from early when he saw their weakness in defence, and I equally fail to see the point in having our one and only winger warming the bench after their vulnerability to decent crosses into the box was exposed very early.

I honestly think it's been so long since we saw any decent wing play at Scapa, that folks have forgotten that it's usually part and parcel of any successful attacking team, at least on one side, if not on both.
mortonjag 2007-03-26 13:51:32
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Mar 26 2007, 12:39 PM) [snapback]247952[/snapback]
There is certainly an argument that these players wouldn't make the step up, but Millar was outstanding against St. Johnstone last year, and McAlister was our best player against Motherwell. Perhaps the step-up will bring out the best in them. Millar has been below par of late, but he was fantastic in the first half of the season, i'll never understand why he gets so much abuse from Morton fans.

You could also have the same worries about making the step-up for players like Templeman too, who failed miserably to perform well in the first division.

The bottom line is that we need experienced guys to help our team perform consistently. And by experience I don't mean age, I mean experience (strangely enough laugh.gif )

Millar would coast the first division. The boy's been jaded, and his form will return. Jimbo would not survive played out left, but should never be there in the first place, and has plenty of football in him.
Sanny did fine in the higher division first time around. When he went back on loan to Brechin last season his head was down as was his form.
mortonjag 2007-03-26 13:57:49 Apparently they 'don't have a designated penalty taker', yet they 'practise penalty shoot outs'--see today's Herald.

To me that just typifies the whole managerial mentality-preparation and training are paramount, but when it comes to match days nobody's got a clue who's supposed to do what.
mortonjag 2007-03-26 14:09:31
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 26 2007, 01:50 PM) [snapback]247986[/snapback]
There are not too many centre halfs who have scored a hat-trick. In normal circumstances if a forward is sitting on two goals then he gets the chance to take the penalty for his hat-trick. We won the game and thank goodness he contributed with two goals. Stop the mischief making.

The whole poit HT, is that it's not mischief making. It's further evidence of a lack of planning and nous on the manager's part. If JM's willing to put his hand on his heart and say that 'Stu' was the man to extend our potentially life saving goal difference over Stirling-then 'fair enough', but it turns out they don't even HAVE an official spot kick man, and to me that says a lot.
mortonjag 2007-03-26 14:16:33
QUOTE(rex manning @ Mar 26 2007, 01:47 PM) [snapback]247980[/snapback]
I dont see the problem with Stu hitting the penalty. He's in the Sun today saying that we don't have a designated penalty taker (weird), Peter had missed one recently, and in training they often have penalty comps and he generally does quite well in them.

Let's face it, the problem is that he F*CKED UP big style. When Spoonsy put that last one over 'The Port', we were astonished because it was unexpected. When Stu missed on Saturday, my words to my brother were, 'Fair play to Forfar, but why the f*ck did Stu take it?'. It's fine to claim he does well in wee friendly shoot outs on the training ground, but that's a damned sight different from the pressure on a match day-EVEN yesterday against Forfar.
mortonjag 2007-03-26 14:22:11
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 26 2007, 02:12 PM) [snapback]247993[/snapback]
Arsenal don't even HAVE an official spot kick man biggrin.gif in fact the man fouled isn't allowed to take it.

Oh, then at least they seem to have some pre set rules!

AND a bellow of 'Un moment', as Arsene calls the order of the day. smile.gif

Arse-sorry Bryan-not you-I was waiting for **sene smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-26 14:33:23
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 26 2007, 02:23 PM) [snapback]247999[/snapback]
clutching at straws there tongue.gif

Yes!
mortonjag 2007-03-26 14:38:23
QUOTE(cmdc @ Mar 26 2007, 02:27 PM) [snapback]248003[/snapback]
A 4-0 away win will do me just fine.

It's not all that uncommon for managers to leave the penalty taking to the players. Even recently Gordon Strachan was talking about the fact that he leaves it up to the players on the park, usually the captian, to decide who will take the penalty. Normally this is based on who feels confident - Stu scored under pressure against St Mirren (I think) and he had already scored twice. Who's to say anyone else would have done any better? It has absolutely nothing to do with nous or preparation.

Gordon Strachan's notorious for opening his mouth and letting his belly rumble, but I do take the point.

I stand by my opinion that Greacen should not have taken a penalty which could ultimately prove to be fatal should it come to goal difference.
mortonjag 2007-03-27 07:29:02
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 26 2007, 02:59 PM) [snapback]248014[/snapback]
I've been nestling away somewhere else, to be eggsact

Soft boiled eggscuse for rotten attendance.
mortonjag 2007-03-27 07:31:23
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Mar 26 2007, 05:27 PM) [snapback]248058[/snapback]
What the hell's that supposed to mean you fool? huh.gif

I'm delighted I've been proved wrong but it'll take more than one game against a team with Forfar's problems to convince me our manager's the man to take us forward.

Somebody has the courage of his convictions.
mortonjag 2007-03-27 07:35:41 Ryan came on for only ten minutes or so the last time we lost at Stirling. That was the game where Finlayson played up front. He was nippy and turned the full back and got up the wing two or three times-I thought he looked pretty comfortable, and as he's the only winger we've got, it's astonishing he hasn't played one full game since.
mortonjag 2007-03-27 07:38:56
QUOTE(carlito @ Mar 26 2007, 02:25 PM) [snapback]248000[/snapback]
So the pressure at Station Park in front of 700 people when we are completely pumping them is worse than the pressure in a penalty shoot out in front of 8000 at your rivals ground in a cup semi-final? When he did, arguably, score the best penalty of the night... blink.gif

No, you are correct, but I wouldn't have given him the penalty that night either, and don't say that's silly because he scored-after all-he DID miss on Saturday! 50% a poor record for penalties.
mortonjag 2007-03-27 07:41:28
QUOTE(Rodder @ Mar 26 2007, 02:26 PM) [snapback]248001[/snapback]
Any defender that has scored two goals in the one game would want to take the penalty to get what may be their first and only hattrick, especially a captain who would be seen as an authority figure when decisions need to be made on who is hitting a penalty or free kick if nobody has been designated.

Who cares, he missed and we won 4-0. If it comes down to goal difference to decide the league i am sure there will be more than just that penalty miss that could have made the outcome different.

Those words are SO true. The trouble is Rodder, the possibility's getting greater, yet we still approach games in a seemingly haphazard way.
mortonjag 2007-03-27 07:43:04
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 26 2007, 05:28 PM) [snapback]248059[/snapback]
suffered a back spasm

Stiff back from standing doing nothing?
mortonjag 2007-03-27 07:51:47
QUOTE(Savo @ Mar 26 2007, 04:05 PM) [snapback]248033[/snapback]
The tactics were absolutely fine. They gave us a solid platform from which we created plenty of chances. Some we took, others we did not, on the way to what was a very comfortable victory.

Time after time we exploited their vulnerability. A couple of finishes were wayward (I heard MacGregor reminding big Temps after one that we 'have to put those ones away Sanny'). You said yourself the opposition keeper had a fine game. But for those two factors it would have been six or seven, mortonjag.

The Bobby Linn point you made is valid enough
, it would have been good to see him a little earlier perhaps. But the very fact that you bemoan - amongst other things - the absence of places for Keenan(?!) and a winger who you seem to rate on the basis of one fleeting substitute cameo appearance, suggests to me you are searching desperately for any stick you can use to beat up Jim McInally. I have no doubts you will continue to do so.

Makin Ali very successfully makes a rod for his own back-I simply mention its presence-I did not invent it.

You agree about Linn-he's a nippy wee poacher who knocked in four against that very team last time they were so weak. He SHOULD have started-end of!

I didn't sign Ryan Russell-JM did-either he's f*cked up with that as well, or he stubbornly refused to exploit their weak defence, by putting on a guy who presumably could have widened the play and put over umpteen crosses.

You say we exploited their vulnerability 'time after time', when in fact the total was four and should have been eight or nine.
mortonjag 2007-03-27 07:58:02
QUOTE(cmdc @ Mar 26 2007, 04:26 PM) [snapback]248040[/snapback]
I completely agree about tactics etc. How often do you see a side score eight or nine at any senior level, even in games heavily dominated by one side? It takes alot more than tactics: luck, perfect finishing, and probably an off form goalkeeper. A 4-0 win away from home at the business end of the season is a good result which should lift the management and players, certainly not deflate them!

Beath-just two days ago against a side who beat US recently scored six, and the last time the Loons were as weak as this Peterhead lumped EIGHT past them, four from Linn our bench warmer.

I'm pleased we got the points. Just totally pissed off that after a week of taking stock, and a turnaround in the perception of our beloved manager, we score only four against a DESPERATELY poor side, and suddenly it's all down to tactics and experience again.
mortonjag 2007-03-27 08:00:51
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Mar 26 2007, 05:16 PM) [snapback]248054[/snapback]
I mentioned on Sunday that had Marko Rajamaki been playing in Jim's position we'd have hit double figures.

He'd have simply bounced balls in off Sanny's heid.

Exactly LargsTON, I think half our posters actually live in a 'fantasy' football world. How in God's name anybody can think that a manager who doesn't believe in wingers is worth a button needs his heid looked.
mortonjag 2007-03-27 08:05:12
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 26 2007, 05:29 PM) [snapback]248061[/snapback]
That is f.ucking nonsense.

You are becoming a parody of yourself. Instead of looking for genuine reasons to criticize Jim McInally you have now resorted to picking out scorelines, decided entirely by you yourself, which are acceptable margins of victory.

Get a grip of yourself and criticise when it's due not when we just won 4-0, the same score Stirling Albion recorded at the same venue - I bet you looked at that result at the time and used it to show how much more clinical Stirling are than us.

NO-it is NOT.

I've made my feelings known elsewhere and explained in detail why 4-0 is not good enough. Do I have to cite silly wee analogies before you'll understand, or common expressions like 'Aye he's good, but if he made a bit of effort he'd be brilliant'?

mortonjag 2007-03-27 08:07:48
QUOTE(Cawston @ Mar 26 2007, 07:09 PM) [snapback]248106[/snapback]
Did you not read his tear jerker last week about how poor, poor wee Ryan tries his wee socks off every day in training but the big bad man just disnae like him?

It was highly emotive stuff, Delusionaljag must be taking training to gain such wonderful insight into Doogie and Jim's evil empire tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2007-03-27 08:10:12
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Mar 26 2007, 08:32 PM) [snapback]248180[/snapback]
i thought that was just thierry henry's personal thing, if he gets fouled he doesn't take the kick.

i could be wrong though.
BTW am i the only one who's thinking mortonjag actually isn't a morton fan at all ?
i've never known anyone to spout so much negativity and hatred towards the team he claims to love
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NO negativity towards the team I love, and NO hatred of anyone. Just a lasting distaste for incompetence at managerial level.
mortonjag 2007-03-27 08:13:57
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Mar 26 2007, 04:56 PM) [snapback]248048[/snapback]
Nothing like a good 4-0 victory to get folk moaning. I along with just about every other Morton fan in the ground wanted Greacen to hit that penalty.

EH!
mortonjag 2007-03-27 08:16:34
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Mar 26 2007, 06:38 PM) [snapback]248088[/snapback]
Observations - Forfar were a very poor side and Stirling will probably take 5 or 6 off them next week -
let's hope the title doesn't come down to goal difference as we should have had double figures yesterday.

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mortonjag 2007-03-27 08:17:58
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 26 2007, 07:11 PM) [snapback]248109[/snapback]
Yes i remember that, i also remember Gowser being one on one with the keeper THREE times and not scoring ! If he'd have scored at least one of them the end result would have been different mad.gif

Linn has never played 90 mins in Gowsers role, i think that is the key here.

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mortonjag 2007-03-27 08:18:46
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 26 2007, 07:14 PM) [snapback]248112[/snapback]
No to be honest i rate Gowser very highly, i'd love him to be a Morton player but

1) Hes NOT a Morton player and
2) Hes NOT a striker

In a 4-4-2 there is no room for him, in a diamond formation or a 3-5-2 then yes.

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mortonjag 2007-03-27 08:20:19 cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Mar 26 2007, 07:18 PM) [snapback]248120[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yes yes i know you're a stat man, however in recent months (circa 2007) if you count the missed chances and how they have directly affected our results, THAT is what is most concerning.

Linn has scored more goals from less chances - FACT !

Anyway, what about him being a Celtic player
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mortonjag 2007-03-27 08:22:37
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Mar 26 2007, 07:24 PM) [snapback]248127[/snapback]
There's no problem..........

We won 4-0 against a side that was downhearted, facing relegation, in the middle of a controversy regarding two players going AWOL. And you're chuffed that we won 4-0.

I am also over the moon that we won but please put all this into persepctive will you. Look at the above facts regarding Forfar? Fast forward 6 days to the next game do you think we will win 4-0 then? Or even 10+ nil as we should have rightly done on Sunday? I don't think so.

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mortonjag 2007-03-27 08:26:13
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 26 2007, 08:44 PM) [snapback]248185[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Mar 26 2007, 08:36 PM) [snapback]248183[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->1) You think?
2) So are we trying to build a team or not?
3) NOT as frequently as Gowser and Linn/Temps have done their time in the trenches, Gowser HASNT !
4) So he doesnt look happy to be playing for Morton !

Bryan, if you can't see that Gowser is one of JM pets, which is made all the worse by the fact that he's not even a Morton player, then you're pretty blind for the boy and only time will prove me right on this one ! unsure.gif
1) Yes as do several managers, and most ton fans
2) we are building a team and gaining promotion at the same time and jim wants to sign him
3) Linn missed great chances in the Brechin and Stirling defeats just blaming mcgowan is wrong
4) Who if he smiles or not, some folk don't smile

JM has players he like but playing him isn't harming the team.

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mortonjag 2007-03-27 08:32:07 Linn was signed as a striker with a proven record-it seems the money has been squandered to date.

McGower is consistently labelled as a striker-it's unfair to the wee guy-I would still have him in the team with Linn and Sanny at the expense of another midfielder in games like Sunday's where we KNOW we should be able to 'run riot'.
mortonjag 2007-03-27 08:37:49
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 27 2007, 12:56 AM) [snapback]248254[/snapback]
Like for like there is not one player in this present team who would have made that team . Look how many good teams were in that 1st division at that time .
The present mob maybe fitter but that is every footballer in general but for determination and a will to win as a team then I go for BR 's team everytime .

I think our lot would be totally gubbed by the older team chrissiboi-what I meant is that our quality relative to THIS second division, is arguably as good as Rooney's was to their opponents, BUT Benny could get the best out of them too!
mortonjag 2007-03-27 08:41:03 The only certainty for the rest of the season is that when we win Makin Ali will be tactician and motivator supreme, and if we lose or draw, the P45's will be straight back out the pockets! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-27 08:44:13
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Mar 27 2007, 07:49 AM) [snapback]248269[/snapback]
I dont think he looks anything special. Only seen him a few times but hasn't done much.

Fair enough-the trouble is though, that he's not even being given a chance, and we're wasting a potential addition to our armoury because JM can't see past Jimbo, whose form's right off, and who should never be played there in the first place.
mortonjag 2007-03-27 08:46:11
QUOTE(Savo @ Mar 26 2007, 04:28 PM) [snapback]248042[/snapback]
Once again you betray your lack of knowledge rolleyes.gif

Care to explain-I SAW him playing in the FIRST division for Brechin, and NOT last season!
mortonjag 2007-03-27 08:47:47
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 26 2007, 05:12 PM) [snapback]248053[/snapback]
Millar played well against Stirling Albion last week.

I do agree that these players deserved to be dropped more often than they have but I would definitely keep both Millar and McAlister for the 1st division.
Yep, Templeman couldn't get a game for Brechin in the 1st division and was generally considered to not be up to it at that level. Although I did see him come off the bench and score a header against St. Mirren at Love Street in a 3-3 draw.

See my previous post!
mortonjag 2007-03-27 08:48:41
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 26 2007, 06:33 PM) [snapback]248087[/snapback]
McAllister would cope fine - his problem is he's not comfortable on the left, or at least when it comes to getting a cross in. He runs non-stop and he's extremely physically fit. Sanny has improved out of all recognition since the start of the season and he would do fine, as would Chris. These players destroyed Killie, remember?

Or would you rather have 11 hammer throwers in the team?

We may need an enforcer, or a Bobby Collins type, but we have the basis of an excellent team.

Spot on Sir.
mortonjag 2007-03-27 08:49:44
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 26 2007, 07:29 PM) [snapback]248130[/snapback]
Millar and McAllister are two shoe-ins for Div 1 !!

JM has just made them stagnent in Div 2 by picking them week in week out regardless of form.

McAllister proved against Motherwell just what he has to offer when there is something to motivate him. Same goes for Millar against Killie, St Johnstone, Gretna (last year) etc........i think this is the main reason Morton fans are moaning at JM with their continued selection, they are probably off form due to lack of motivation. dry.gif

A lot of truth in there I suspect.
mortonjag 2007-03-27 08:52:25
QUOTE(Toby @ Mar 26 2007, 09:23 PM) [snapback]248207[/snapback]
The problem is there isn't anywhere near enough "hammer throwers" as you describe them. Most of our team are gifted enough players but if you're to look back to the Clyde semi final we're far too easily bullied and hung out to dry by opposition who are probably not as talented but have infinitely more savvy.

Everybody's going on about ONLY dropping so many points. What you say is just SO painfully true. We should have the championship sewn up already.
mortonjag 2007-03-27 09:01:00 As I see it, the present squad would be a hit and miss in the 1st. One week we'd be getting praised in the press for winning with attractive flowing football, and the next we'd get 'mugged' yet again'

IF it could be done prudently, I believe the signing of three or four players could make all the difference.

Far and away the priority is a genuine experienced and motivating leader-worth his weight in gold DDFR.
mortonjag 2007-03-27 09:03:56
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Mar 27 2007, 07:58 AM) [snapback]248273[/snapback]
Info as above on Official site. Game V Queens Park - 7.30 kick off. Posted mainly for the attention of Arkleston who has a fetish about Queens Park.

Thanks, it's 15 minutes walk for me. If it's nice I shall take it in and report back!
mortonjag 2007-03-27 09:07:18
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 27 2007, 07:44 AM) [snapback]248266[/snapback]
it happens to old folk tongue.gif

...who stand about doing nothing. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-27 09:40:20
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Mar 27 2007, 08:08 AM) [snapback]248277[/snapback]
I'm not reading this all again to check - but I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Peter's goal - it was a peach.

and yes Mortonjag, I know that's because "he's really a striker" rolleyes.gif

wink.gif ...if ever proof was needed!
mortonjag 2007-03-27 09:49:08
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 27 2007, 08:12 AM) [snapback]248281[/snapback]
Wonder what you thought of mcpherson then tongue.gif

Not a lot, and the only player I took an instant dislike to was McCluskey-my brother said I just 'had it in for him' but mortonjag's usually right-well-sometimes right!
mortonjag 2007-03-27 09:53:04
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Mar 27 2007, 09:30 AM) [snapback]248308[/snapback]
it's nice up here in cloud cukoo land !!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Where, with apologies to ThornTON our resident lexicographer, it appears nobody can spell cuckoo! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-27 09:54:37
QUOTE(Lancashire Hot Pot @ Mar 27 2007, 09:43 AM) [snapback]248310[/snapback]
It was last night. Morton Reserves won 6-1. Bobby Linn got two of the goals.

Not to worry-BTW is that Bobby Linn the 'STRIKER'? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-27 10:07:24
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 27 2007, 10:00 AM) [snapback]248316[/snapback]
What, the one with the "oops i've just punched someone lets hope I get away with it" face? What a dobber dry.gif

The word 'dobber's very expressive. The only two definitions I can find are:

Float for a fishing line

'Grass', or 'clype'-in Australian dialect.

I'm sure most of us are thinking of something even more derogatory!
mortonjag 2007-03-27 10:13:05
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 27 2007, 10:01 AM) [snapback]248317[/snapback]
At least yer not blaming him for us losing games unsure.gif

I certainly am not Bryan, but I DO see where the argument's coming from.

There's a strong feeling that Gowser gets played every single week because of the Celtic connection-like it or not that's what many think, and there may be something in it.

The way I see it is different-JM has too many decent midfielders, and not enough of the rest, so the wee man is conveniently described as our 'striker' when what should happen is that Linn should be allowed to blend with the team, and it should be one of the other midfielders on the bench.

Bear in mind that permutations from week to week ARE possible, but JM just doesn't seem able to exercise much imagination IMO.
mortonjag 2007-03-27 12:46:32 Tontastic should be correct IF his angles are right. We were directly behind-probably as close as anybody. The ball rolled along the line at a slight angle towards the post and was definitely going in, so I'd credit Sanny with the goal. In terms of the actual rules, I DON'T believe 'the whole of the ball was over the whole of the line' before Jamie 'made sure', so technically it may very well be his.
mortonjag 2007-03-27 12:49:49
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 27 2007, 10:21 AM) [snapback]248324[/snapback]
the fact the some have suggested the he cost us defeat last week seems a strange argument

That's plain daft-there were too many things wrong last week, and everybody was looking for a scapegoat instead of the real reason! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-27 12:55:53
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 27 2007, 10:36 AM) [snapback]248327[/snapback]
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A personal attack.??

He says your galss is half empty and you're all hurt and upset. You poor wee soul.
Mortonjag, you are a complete and utter tool.
Now there's a personal attack for you to cry about.

Away ye go-I'm in a good mood right now, so you'll have to be a LOT nastier before I even consider saying naughty things in return. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-27 13:01:49
QUOTE(moby @ Mar 27 2007, 10:44 AM) [snapback]248328[/snapback]
we went in a car last time we played them midweek and im sure we got there in time for a pint before kick off and we left inverclyde about 5ish

We left Glasgow West on Sunday, and in good conditions with only one hold up at the M876 interchange, we made the Forfar turn off in 1 and 3/4 hrs. Brechin's about another 15 minutes so I'd say 2 hrs from Glasgow is pretty good going. If you do Brechin from Greenock in less than 2.5 hours, you're liable to get points on the licence, but it can definitely be done.
mortonjag 2007-03-27 13:04:00
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Mar 27 2007, 10:51 AM) [snapback]248331[/snapback]
well you just did. biggrin.gif

anyway who cares it's nice up here ! cool.gif rolleyes.gif

Wouldn't be anywhere else for all the midfielders in JM's squad! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-27 13:11:27
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 27 2007, 11:29 AM) [snapback]248333[/snapback]
Well Hardie wasn't the epitome of doom that he normally is, so who will take his place? Ritchie or Nicholls?

Don't tell me my Uncle Colin's hanging up his whistle-what a man- I'll never forget those balmy days when perched on his knee we kids sat to attention as he related tales of sending off Pele, banishing Jock Stein to the stand in a Scotland international, and teaching Mr. Collina all he knew.

Then of course, it was off to the big bed for us all!
mortonjag 2007-03-27 13:28:45
QUOTE(Savo @ Mar 27 2007, 11:51 AM) [snapback]248339[/snapback]
The word in bold is the key here.

The truth is that you have no idea what Ryan could have done on the pitch and you've just admitted it there.

But that doesn't stop you desperately using his inactivity as a way to attack the manager - after we've just won our 21st league game of the season, and by four goals to nil into the bargain. Do you have any idea just how ridiculous you sound.

And we did exploit their vulnerability time after time by creating plenty of opportunities. We put four away and missed that and more again. Your arbitrary setting of only 8-0 or 9-0 as being acceptable is laughable.

At the end of the day it's down to your opinion and mine Savo-maybe you've not got as much 'savvy' as you think.

If JM didn't presume Russell was capable of exploiting the left wing (where Jimbo yet again struggled) what the f*ck was he doing on the bench?

Perhaps if our striker, who presumably JM thought was capable of sticking a few away, hadn't spent nearly the whole game beside him, we wouldn't have 'missed that and more again'.

It's a wee bit ironic that when the recent poll demonstrated 75% of voters were unhappy about the manager, you allude to my desperately seeking excuses to 'attack him'. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-27 13:31:04
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 27 2007, 12:38 PM) [snapback]248353[/snapback]
that's a record score for most century-old clubs.

Seem to remember Peterhead scored eight against Forfar this season-4 from Linn.
mortonjag 2007-03-27 13:35:04
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Mar 27 2007, 12:39 PM) [snapback]248354[/snapback]
I would just like to quote two statements from the tele.
Now in fairness to the tele they are as biased as I am, but I get a little hint that the team did OK on Sunday. This is in comparison to the way MJ has managed to spin a 0-4 scoreline into a dysmal display that will be our eventual downfall.

Now which one should I take with more than a pinch of salt?

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You're the 'spinner'-with my posts- Scotty boy. Have I once suggested since the game that the boys put on a poor show?

All I've said is that on a day when we could have made our goal difference unassailable, AND when we were SO far ahead, our striker spent almost all of the game on the bench, and we did not attempt to exploit the wings as we might have, and which JM had promised. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-27 13:36:13
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 27 2007, 01:05 PM) [snapback]248370[/snapback]
Now there's a surprise. wink.gif

Now there's a surprise. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-27 13:42:10
QUOTE(Savo @ Mar 27 2007, 11:35 AM) [snapback]248335[/snapback]
Care to explain? No problem.

He did not cope with the step-up - to the extent that, despite being the star man in their promotion campaign the previous term, he ended up spending a great deal of time on the bench.

Maybe you weren't at one (or more) of the games where he was dropped - which ran into double figures.
I think he got 5 league goals all season.

I actually happen to think Temps would fare much better up there with us, as we will offer a lot more than the Brechin team of 03/04 ever could.

But if you are going to continue to bump your gums and make uninformed, inaccurate statements, then they'll get challenged.

I didn't at any time claim he was their star man in division one but to say he couldn't cope is unfair. We've had players sitting on the bench all season who can cope admirably with this division. I saw him against the Midden at love St.-maybe the same game as you. I thought he was just a big striker before that, but was impressed by his ability to find space and link with his team mates also.
mortonjag 2007-03-27 13:49:03
QUOTE(tontastic @ Mar 27 2007, 12:49 PM) [snapback]248360[/snapback]
From my aforementioned angle: considering a vertical projection of the painted goal mouth line the entire of the ball had crossed said line prior to Mr Stephenson making contact. In my opinion.

Och man-I wanted PROOF! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-27 13:50:36
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 27 2007, 12:07 PM) [snapback]248344[/snapback]
I wanted to call him a c*** but didn't think it'd get through the filter.... happy.gif

Im afraid it c*n't!
mortonjag 2007-03-27 13:57:07 Lassie at Uni (Jane)-got called Jane Honda. Apparently she'd let anybody ride her..
mortonjag 2007-03-27 14:07:16
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 27 2007, 01:57 PM) [snapback]248393[/snapback]
I don't care what your detailed reasons that 4-0 is not good enough are because you are wrong. 4-0 is good enough. It gets us the 3 points we are after, with a clean sheet and decent number of goals to boost our goal difference.

You have some genuine reasons for criticising this season but criticism of Sunday is just laughable.

Also you mention Peterhead putting 8 past them. Again by mentioning this you show how clueless you are. Forfar's squad was decimated by illness, so much so that about half of their squad was ill (8 fit players from a squad of 19). They failed in an attempt to get the match postponed. Finally, they also had two men sent off in the course of the 90 minutes.

We came up against a team that was missing two awol players not exactly the same, is it.

I'm the one who gets accused of being patronising and condescending, but you're priceless at times!

Don't bother telling me that 4-0 is good enough, when even JM was bemoaning the FACT we could and should have scored far more.

I was WELL aware of the situation when Peterhead beat Forfar-I believe it even got in the papers!

On Sunday they were not only decimated to the extent of listing two trialists-they were demoralised by dressing room problems-AND it showed. They were 'ripe for picking', AND ended up with a man off and harsh decisions from Hardie.

Nowhere have I criticised our actual play-the boys, as usual, did their best (which incidentally I frequently say and it is rarely acknowledged), but I am far from the only person who believes we could and should have scored far more.
mortonjag 2007-03-27 14:10:56
QUOTE(tontastic @ Mar 27 2007, 02:02 PM) [snapback]248397[/snapback]
Och come on yourself. We take everything you say as your word and as gospel ...

...as indeed it is!
mortonjag 2007-03-27 14:15:39
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Mar 27 2007, 02:10 PM) [snapback]248401[/snapback]
I voted for Peter, but David McGregor comes a close second. Both have been extremely consistent, but Peter's goals edge it for me.

Temps might have been in with a shout, but he didn't play enough at the start of the season and I feel player of the year is someone who has played all season and consistently well.

I'm afraid I don't think David McGregor has been very consistent at all. In the last five or six games he's been OK, and excellent in a couple, but he's not played a whole season, and is far too slow against a fast winger.

I, like you, chose Weatherson.
mortonjag 2007-03-27 17:43:51
QUOTE(Savo @ Mar 27 2007, 02:13 PM) [snapback]248404[/snapback]
No offence mortonjag but do you read what is posted before clicking on the reply button?

I did not say you had claimed he was a star man in division one. No one did - read it again.

I said he had been the star man in their promotion campaign and mentioned that, despite this, he was dropped for some time when they reached the First Division. This was to illustrate the point he struggled in that environment back then - something you obviously do not agree with, but I'd argue the facts show otherwise.

Nor did I say I went to a Brechin game that season. I think you are perhaps referring to JonaTon and his post - he said he was at that game, not me.

1/ Did I say you claimed that? rolleyes.gif

2/ Stating the obvious rolleyes.gif

3/ My mistake-it's so easy to confuse the two of you! wub.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-27 17:57:10
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Mar 27 2007, 03:21 PM) [snapback]248419[/snapback]
I did the journey on Sun in 2.5 hours there and the same back! Not bad going! Brechin is the next town after Forfar.

240 miles in 5 hours-average 48 m.p.h., and didn't break the speed limit once! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-27 18:00:38
QUOTE(Savo @ Mar 27 2007, 02:27 PM) [snapback]248407[/snapback]
I would say he was on the bench for the simple reason that someone else has quite possibly played their way right out of the plans on a permanent basis with their reckless indiscipline.

That freed up a place in the squad, and he was next in line.

Possibly!
mortonjag 2007-03-27 18:09:33
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 27 2007, 02:29 PM) [snapback]248408[/snapback]
I'm glad I'm coming accross as patronising and condescending towards you, that's my aim because I'm fed up getting pissed off at reading the huge amounts of crap you write criticising the management at almost every single thing he does.

According to the Forfar programme 'The squad has been bolstered since we last went to print'. Signing defenders Stephen McCulloch and Garry Tierney on loan from Airdrie.

You also contradict yourself. By saying the team should have scored far more you are criticising 'the boys'. McInally set them out in such a way that they created barrowloads of chances. Many , many chances were missed, not by Jim McInally, but by the players. As Savo said on another thread MacGregor shouted to Templeman that those are the chances he needs to be putting away. We also missed a penalty which if scored would have met your ludicrous acceptable scoreline.

No doubt you are getting pissed off-you are clearly one of the small minority who support JM in the poll.

'According to the Forfar programme'-I'd rather believe the version I got from the two Loons fans I was blethering to at half time thanks.

Your last comment is totally illogical. JM picked the team, and JM sat and watched them. He had the opportunity to change things around at any point and did not. I clearly meant the'squad' could have scored far more.
mortonjag 2007-03-27 18:12:04
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 27 2007, 03:06 PM) [snapback]248415[/snapback]
Really ? I thought you'd voted for Ryan Russell.

Nope DE-it was JM who voted for him when he signed him-mind you maybe that means he should win! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-27 18:15:35
QUOTE(inge @ Mar 27 2007, 05:46 PM) [snapback]248482[/snapback]
Hi there!
I am working on an article about Nordic footballers whos been playing for Crystal Palace FC. The first ones were the Danes Per Bartram and Borge Thorup. Ive noticed that Morton were among the pioneers when it came to bringing foreign footballers to Britain (What did you start....?!.. :-) ...)
Ive found out some about Bartram, but very little about Thorup. But I`ve been told that after he left Morton the second time he went to Denmark. But then he went back to Scotland again, were he was/is running a hotel?
Anyone knows anything about him and his "moves" ?

Inge L
Oslo, Norway

He works for Western Ferries, and lives in Hunter's Quay near Dunoon, where the company has its headquarters.
mortonjag 2007-03-27 18:21:51
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Mar 27 2007, 06:11 PM) [snapback]248498[/snapback]
You remember wrong - Linn scored 2.

Really-I am getting old! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-27 18:26:23
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Mar 27 2007, 04:08 PM) [snapback]248440[/snapback]
An experienced manager Mortonjag has been telling us all thats what we need

Indeed we do Sir!
mortonjag 2007-03-27 18:27:25
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Mar 27 2007, 04:43 PM) [snapback]248460[/snapback]
aye but mortonjag talks pish!

Unlike the small minority who want to keep JM!
mortonjag 2007-03-27 18:31:57
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 27 2007, 01:48 PM) [snapback]248386[/snapback]
http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=476902007

WTF is this all about? And what are the words of the song? And if we were to adopt a vegetable, what would it be?

Plenty of Swedes in Scottish football-but I guess the TON would choose the humble potato for the 'munchkins'.
mortonjag 2007-03-27 18:42:22
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Mar 27 2007, 04:49 PM) [snapback]248462[/snapback]
Maybe wouldn't put it as strong as that think he just likes to post the same message 6/7 times each day ie Mcinally hasn't a clue get an experienced manager in

Careful Sir, if you're no 'agin' me, you must be with me! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-27 18:49:45
QUOTE(standman @ Mar 27 2007, 02:38 PM) [snapback]248412[/snapback]
I'm not a afn of his but I don't know what he was supposwd to do thias season .

They weree promoted beyond their abilities last year so surely to be challenging for promotion this year was always going to be unrealistic ?

It's 'kick a man while he's down' time standman-a simple game which all can play, as evidenced by the huge turnaround in opinion after we lost to Stirling. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-28 07:15:37
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 27 2007, 08:10 PM) [snapback]248570[/snapback]
Not at rush hour you can't unless you've got a helicopter! At 5.00pm midweek, its the thick end of an hour from the Airport to the M80 turn off. From there to Stirling at that time of night is about another 40mins. So that leaves you the last 75 miles or so to do in 3/4 of an hour.............maybe in a Jaguar??

I will admit to coming back from a midweek game at Brechin in under 2.5 hours but that's a different traffic proposition.

Cappielow to Glebe park's 129 miles. The RAC estimate 2.45 hrs. in 'light' traffic, obeying speed limits.
mortonjag 2007-03-28 07:19:15
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Mar 27 2007, 08:33 PM) [snapback]248586[/snapback]
Agree, he must get frustrated seeing an underperforming out of position player, playing in his position.

In no way do i blame McAlister though as i think he could be an excellent right wing back.

Funny, I was thinking the very same thing last night. It doesn't seem to have come up much as a topic on the forum, but he seems to have all the necesary qualities.
mortonjag 2007-03-28 07:27:15
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 27 2007, 08:44 PM) [snapback]248597[/snapback]
Clearly you are wrong. I voted for the second option which the vast majority have voted for.

I don't think McInally is perfect. In fact I am quite critical of him at times. Especially his substitutions, rigidity in sticking with the same players week in and week out and his choice to play Weatherson at right back for most of the season and playing Stevenson and Millar in the others better position.

My last comment is not illogical you said we should score more but the team put out by McInally led to loads of chances for players to score and they didn't take them or the Forfar keeper pulled off great saves. I think you think that the introduction of Ryan Russell and Bobby Linn would have produced more goals. Predictably I disagree. I think Ryan Russell was a stop gap signing and over time McInally has probably come to the conclusion he actually isn't good enough. Anything I've seen from him would suggest the same. You have Bobby Linn down as some sort of goalscoring machine but from what I remember of him at Peterhead he was more likely to drift out wide and run at players rather than score lots of goals through getting in the box. His finish against Stirling Albion last week seems to indicate he might not have been the man to come on at Forfar and rattle in the goals to take us beyond the magical 5-0 scoreline.

The proof is in the pudding JonaTon. You've rightly criticised JM, for a lack of imagination, which is really all I'm doing.
mortonjag 2007-03-28 07:28:54
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 27 2007, 10:07 PM) [snapback]248647[/snapback]
Ach shoosht, I don't read his stuff. tongue.gif

Oh YES you DO you cheeky wee midden! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-28 07:33:00
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 27 2007, 10:13 PM) [snapback]248650[/snapback]
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I probably shouldn't either.

smile.gif Forum health warning.

Mortonjag's posts may seriously damage your health.
mortonjag 2007-03-28 07:44:15
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 27 2007, 11:38 PM) [snapback]248673[/snapback]
Nope. smile.gif

Look at Weatherson's goal on Saturday. Linn collects a great pass from McGowan on the right hand side and delivers a pin point pass / cross to Weatherson who takes it in his stride and finishes.

Would it not be an idea to look at players like Templeman, Finlayson, and Stevenson before you start assessing any player in his 'bedding-in period at Scapa?

Moreover, Linn scored plenty at Peterhead and was always seen as a striker-but that doesn't mean he was forbidden to use space during a build-up.
mortonjag 2007-03-28 07:53:31
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 27 2007, 09:11 PM) [snapback]248619[/snapback]
laugh.gif he has been here 3 months and he knows he will get his chances next season, it is not like he has been here a year not playing is it,. he will not leave. Scoring agaist amature reserves proves nothing. if we start him were does mcgowan go?

Bryan----- Finlayson, Templeman, and Stevenson walked straight into the team, and McGurn was literally 'dumped' for Mathers.

That argument won't wash with me. I rate Gowser, but the others are correct-he's keeping Linn out. As I've said elsewhere, I believe Bobby, Sanny, AND 'the wee guy' should ALL be played, and the rest of the midfield adjusted to suit. I also believe there's potentially FAR more flexibility from week to week now, with the addition of a genuine striker. There's absolutely no reason why the team shouldn't have MINOR changes made regularly depending on 'ups and downs' in form, AND on assessment of the opposition.
mortonjag 2007-03-28 07:54:18
QUOTE(piehutt @ Mar 27 2007, 09:13 PM) [snapback]248621[/snapback]
I certainly think he should be getting more football than he is getting.

Sunday was a perfect opportunity to bring him on at half time or even with 30 minutes to go - get him a few goals, give Gowser a rest and give everyone a look at him.

Indeed.
mortonjag 2007-03-28 08:01:31
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 27 2007, 09:35 PM) [snapback]248631[/snapback]
Err, he, yes Jamie, aye Jamie Stevenson err kicked the ball in the goal. Err, sorry Sanny - Jamie's goal.

They're fuds Deego-you an' me are right son-I bet you were directly behing the goal too-it was rolling slowly over the line and might even have clipped the back edge of the post before going in until Jamie 'tanned it'. NO WAY was 'the WHOLE of the ball over the WHOLE of the line when he made contact.

Still Sanny's goal though!
mortonjag 2007-03-28 08:05:41
QUOTE(stuart @ Mar 27 2007, 08:03 PM) [snapback]248568[/snapback]
i think he is one od only 3 players to have scored a european goal for morton.

Yip-he got TWO against Chelsea.
mortonjag 2007-03-28 08:18:38
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 28 2007, 07:19 AM) [snapback]248689[/snapback]
I agree with the side of the debate that Templeman stuggled in division 1 , but , maybe he wouldn't have if his team-mates were more capable hence savo pointing out he may do better there with Morton ; sometimes though forwards go through lengthy periods where the form deserts them and the goals dry up , perhaps that's what happened in this instance.

I don't think it's logical to compare his goals tally in a season where his team were promoted to the next season where ''the team'' struggled ; I mean , Rowan Alexander scored a lot in 86/87 when we won the league and didn't score all that many in the premier league the following season ; which wiznae his fault ; fewer goal-scoring opportunities = fewer goals.

Sorry mate-you're obviously A CLOWN just like me! Let's face it, I'm the 'clown' who in the face of violent opposition sussed out JM over a season ago. I'm 'the clown' who was ripped to shreds for questioning Kev Finlayson's ability wide right, and I'm 'the clown' who's been saying all season that Spoonsy's wasted at right back.

At the moment it seems I'm again 'a clown', for DARING to suggest that the team desperately needs freshened up during the 'run in', and that leaving a proven goalscorer on the bench is strange.

I 'm obviously 'a clown' mind you. Let's face it, we're TOP OF THE LEAGUE, and I don't rate the manager!!!!!!!!!

Not only that but we've a four point lead and goal difference advantage over our nearest rivals, and our fans have confirmed their unmitigated delight with his performance, and total confidence for the future in a recent poll.
mortonjag 2007-03-28 08:26:03
QUOTE(McCauley87 @ Mar 27 2007, 07:09 PM) [snapback]248543[/snapback]
The key word there is 'manager'. Dick Campbell is not a manager, he has experience of being a manager but that doesn't mean he is any good. I would rather we stick with Jim if it was to be Dick Campbell to replace him.

Where have I heard that before? smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-28 08:41:14
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 28 2007, 08:31 AM) [snapback]248708[/snapback]
I don't get it lol , whit did ah dae tae deserve that ? laugh.gif

You DARED to put a wee bit of 'spin' on the pronouncements of the pseudo deities Savo, and JonaTon, the latest in a line of failed pretenders to the heavenly throne that is mortonjag's. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-28 08:47:15
QUOTE(Savo @ Mar 28 2007, 12:08 AM) [snapback]248677[/snapback]
Which begs the question: why say what you did in the first place when it was utterly pointless and redundant? It was probably to divert attention away from the fact you got it wrong. Again.

With each self-obsessed, misinformed, deluded, slevering post you make it becomes clearer and clearer that you are one of those footballing simpletons who could watch millions of games in their lifetime - and yet still be none the wiser at the end of it all.

I give in! I shall seek help. Are your counselling sessions fully booked, or have you suspended those to concentrate on your PH.D. in football management at Oxford?
mortonjag 2007-03-28 08:52:38
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 28 2007, 08:46 AM) [snapback]248713[/snapback]
He had 18, and didn't do anything... he ain't as good as McGowan, and that's why he's not starting.

All these anti-Celtic moaners are getting excited about a reserve performance against a pub team's reserves... which proves the square root of f*** all!!

Correct on the last point. Don't forget though, Gowser went through a spell of pretty bad form-you're the stats man-what was the longest he went this season without a SINGLE goal, and he's supposed to be a 'striker'!

Linn got 18 minutes, looked lively and hungry, and played a part in one of the goals. Gowser's had a couple of games at least where it could have been argued 'he didn't do anything'.
mortonjag 2007-03-28 08:55:55
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 28 2007, 08:49 AM) [snapback]248716[/snapback]
They've got more to spend than the majority of the league, and started well, then sunk down towards the play-offs!

...where Mr Campbell renewed his acquaintance with a Mr Stewart, who had previously renewed his with a Mr Makin Ali.
mortonjag 2007-03-28 08:57:37 'Hot tip for a 'blow job'.
mortonjag 2007-03-28 09:23:44
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ Mar 28 2007, 09:13 AM) [snapback]248723[/snapback]
Thrush - 'cause he was an irritating C***

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mortonjag 2007-03-28 09:29:48
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 28 2007, 08:58 AM) [snapback]248722[/snapback]
Longest he's without a goal was 8 games, but he created goals for others in that time, and the run was ended with a goal against Kilmarnock.

I can't imagine Linn being allowed to play eight consecutive games without scoring a single goal. As a manager of a 'top of table' side, I'd certainly be disappointed in that form from a striker. The rest of your information, however, gives weight to the theory that Gowser's an attacking midfielder.

mortonjag 2007-03-28 10:15:57 Funny old game football. Stranraer recently beat us and Stirling in consecutive games, yet 'Beath' lumped four goals past them in 16 minutes at the weekend , ended up winning six - one, and FIVE of those came from a 'STRIKER'!

I can't see Saturday's game being as easy as the Forfar encounter.
mortonjag 2007-03-28 10:39:28
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 28 2007, 10:29 AM) [snapback]248742[/snapback]
Don't worry, we'll win this one, i think Cowden have put a bit of pressure on themselves by winning 6-1 last week.

3-1 the Ton wink.gif

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I KNOW we CAN win this one-I'm just praying we take the game to them, get an early goal and keep up the pressure 'til the end. I don't like predictions, but I'll go for two nil with both goals coming from 'goalscorers'!
mortonjag 2007-03-28 10:43:21 I haven't read the thread, but given that we are capable of beating France and Georgia we have to have some optimism. I can't see Italy failing to score though. 2-2 seems as good a guess as any-for an optimistic Scot!
mortonjag 2007-03-28 10:50:00 I just don't know what to think about international issues most of the time. Opinions are coloured by political and self interested media spin. How do you ever get to the truth.

'A man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest'.
mortonjag 2007-03-28 10:58:20
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 28 2007, 10:39 AM) [snapback]248744[/snapback]
Really!!!??

You shock me.

Really!!!??

Who'd have predicted your reply?
mortonjag 2007-03-28 11:06:21 cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Mar 28 2007, 10:58 AM) [snapback]248754[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->And here is me thinking Cappie The Cat would score the 2 goals shockarooney[/quote]
Any big poosy in a TON strip could have scored at Forfar! wink.gif

Seriously though, the use of the word 'goalscorer' was to avoid offending anyone, since nobody at Scapa-from the Chairman right down to the said Cappie seems to be in agreement about the players' natural positions.

No responsibility will be taken by me for subsequent innuendo.
mortonjag 2007-03-28 11:10:13
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 28 2007, 11:04 AM) [snapback]248756[/snapback]
i don't think the two of you are the only ones.

So many misguided souls on this forum.
mortonjag 2007-03-28 12:47:28
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Mar 27 2007, 07:04 PM) [snapback]248539[/snapback]
Dick 'Back Door' Campbell was one of the few serious suggestions on a topic of alternatives to McInally last season. It seemed an insane suggestion to me then as the Partick fans were so unhappy with him and it certainly doesn't look any smarter now.

If you can lower yourself SH, read what Lambie's got to say on the subject in today's 'Sun'.
mortonjag 2007-03-28 12:50:43
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 28 2007, 11:52 AM) [snapback]248777[/snapback]
Missed this post earlier- most unlike you Sir.
Save foetuses from a s***e life. dry.gif

Don't get me wrong, I'm not of the "Abortion is always wrong, plain and simple" people.

I would rather say "Abortion is always wrong, but it can sometimes stop a greater wrong if a foetus is aborted" person.

But to sit in a God like way and decide whether or not a human has a decent quality of life takes a bit of doing.

We regularly test for and kill foetuses which would develop into children with Spina bifida. I have taught a child with spina bifida, bright, happy, loving life and confined to a wheel chair. She died two years ago at about 32 years old. s***e quality of life? Never seemed so.

It's always dangerous to argue the general from the particular.
mortonjag 2007-03-28 12:55:26
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 28 2007, 11:22 AM) [snapback]248766[/snapback]
lol , I am just joining a discussion , no harm there I am sure savo and jonaton wouldnt mind , they are really good blokes. I don't like to see everyone ganging up on you though because I think you are probably a nice man too.

Not really, I'm a cantankerous old curmudgeon with a chip on both shoulders and too much time on my hands-and THEY STARTED IT. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-28 13:00:48
QUOTE(TonGa @ Mar 28 2007, 11:21 AM) [snapback]248765[/snapback]
You really do my box in! I'm now convinced you are a skunk who takes pleasure playing the negative Morton fan. Boring.

Seems some people's 'boxes' are rather easily 'done in'. I was actually making a genuine comment for once-what was so 'box do inable' about it? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-28 13:05:29
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Mar 28 2007, 11:28 AM) [snapback]248770[/snapback]
I think this is the game that will turn it for us for the run in. I think we will win 3-1 with Mathers or McGurn getting the 3rd with a min to go. The other 2 goals come from finlayson rolleyes.gif

I was thinking similar-Mathers in the first half, then subbed in case he got sent off after his 'yellow' for celebrating too much, McGurn with a kick out that was a millimetre over the line when Jamie burst the net with it, and Bobby Linn, immediately after he's brought on to play out the last 1.7664 minutes.
mortonjag 2007-03-28 13:10:25
QUOTE(leyTON @ Mar 28 2007, 12:26 PM) [snapback]248800[/snapback]
mortonjag is needlessly negative and states the obvious
shock horror!

Au contraire Monsieur, Mortonjag states an opinion. Mortonjag's opinions are normally rubbished by 90% of our posters. The other 10% have a modicum of intelligence. Why can't you just assume that this game WILL be easier than the Forfar encounter? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-28 13:13:14
QUOTE(Kev @ Mar 28 2007, 12:54 PM) [snapback]248810[/snapback]
You've got to be Yolking rolleyes.gif

I admit it-I was lion.
mortonjag 2007-03-28 16:25:21
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 28 2007, 02:37 PM) [snapback]248848[/snapback]
And vice versa. My point was a simple one which is made much more eloquently by various organisations which represent those who are disabled. We go down a very slippery slope when we use the quality of life arguement as justification for abortion.

Abortion should be like the use of armed and lethal force between countries, a sad necessity which should be used rarely.

Firstly Tom, let me say that in practical terms, I wholeheartedly agree with you. Wrong is sometimes 'right'. In moral terms, of course, that is a contradiction. Common sense and religion occasionally diverge, of course.
mortonjag 2007-03-28 16:45:02
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 28 2007, 03:36 PM) [snapback]248894[/snapback]
Anyone got any tried and tested cures for a sore back, I'm in absolute agony, I don't remember doing anything to it, basically woke up with it. Any help would be appreciated. sad.gif

Have you ever had the same symptoms before?
Where exactly is the pain?
Is it aggravated or relieved by anything-like coughing or sneezing, or changing position?
Does it travel any where else (like down your leg)?
Is it constant and relentless, or does it build up to a peak then subside before coming back as bad as before?
Any other symptoms like feeling sick, or a cold sweat?
In the first instance you need some decent pain relief midTONs, and if you can't get something pretty decent from your G.P. buy Solpadeine Max, and Ibuprofen, and use them in combination-but FFS check all the contraindications on the label first. If the origin is musculoskeletal, a liberal helping of alcohol is in order too if required, or a muscle relaxant like diazepam (if you have sources!).

What concerns me is the sudden onset-could be renal colic or other more strange beasties. Good luck, and p.m. if you're stuck.

Edit-just missed your last post and glad your feeling a bit better.
mortonjag 2007-03-28 16:50:06
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 28 2007, 04:07 PM) [snapback]248912[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2007-03-28 16:52:20
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 28 2007, 04:19 PM) [snapback]248918[/snapback]
There is one thing we agree on. laugh.gif

....and prevention may be better than cure! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-28 16:54:51
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 28 2007, 04:21 PM) [snapback]248921[/snapback]
Maybe I am not making myself clear. Rush hour in and around Glasgow runs from about 4.30pm to 6.30pm. To get to Brechin midweek you need to go through Glasgow and if you do so at rush hour, that part of your journey will take an hour minimum. That means add about 3/4 of an hour to your journey. At that time of night the journey up the M80 will add another 20-30 minutes so for a midweek game to need to allow at least and hour to 1.25 hours to your journey time compared to at weekends.

You've made yourself VERY clear-nothing like hammering a point home.

You are correct, of course!
mortonjag 2007-03-28 17:09:08
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 28 2007, 04:35 PM) [snapback]248926[/snapback]
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It is good using the italics button, isn't it? Really helps to emphasise a point

I agree emphatically!

Seems poor Mortonjag can't win sad.gif The naughty man dared to suggest that four to nil in what should have been a total whitewash wasn't that great, and was informed of wonderful goalkeeping, missed chances by the barrowload, the woodwork, and two last minute signings, to say nothing of God, all of which made it MUCH harder to score than would have been predicted against a demoralised, decimated side languishing at the foot of the table.

Now, having made the entirely logical comment that the game against Cowdenbeath 'won't be so easy' given that they managed to put six past a better team than Forfar, Mortonjag is accused of 'stating the obvious', and of 'negativity'.

Seems this is victimisation of a poor old soul who happily gives of his precious time and advice to those in need.
mortonjag 2007-03-28 17:18:44
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 28 2007, 05:06 PM) [snapback]248949[/snapback]
I'd be surprised as I don't think loan deals work that way....because if they did loans would be used a hell of a lot more than they are now.

Its simple - Paul McGowan has been part of a team that is top of the league and has played as much a part in that - in goals and assists - as anyone since the start of the season. Bobby Linn came in during the transfer window to strengthen the squad and provide competition for places...and also I guess with one eye on next season if we can't keep Gowser. He hasn't been able to dislodge Gowser because his performances have generally been good and he's scoring goals. Big deal, it happens.

Combine this with the fact we're also in the situation where (as JMcI as stated) its difficult to change the team 'just for the sake of it' as the pressure is on to win every game and if he does change the team and the result is poor - he'll get criticized. He hasn't changed the team much - and he's criticized (on here at least). And the one game he plays Templeman, Gowser and Linn we lost. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't as they say.

Now I'm not saying he's correct for not tinkering with the team - because plenty do to great success, and I think the games we had a couple of months ago when we were 9, 10 points clear at the top would have been the optimal times to rest players or tinker - I can just see his point I suppose. However I do get the impression that he's perhaps reluctant to change it 'just in case', which isn't so good.

Back to the main point however, but as far as I'm concerned any talk of a Celtic bias is just ludicrous. JMcI has used his contacts to get us a talented footballer on loan from his former employer....and long may it continue as far as I'm concerned.

I'd say it's to be expected, and if inaccurate should be scotched by healthy debate.

My personal take is that JM wouldn't be human if he didn't at times let his heart rule his head. That may be injudicious, but is not, per se, a sin.
mortonjag 2007-03-28 17:22:16
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 28 2007, 05:13 PM) [snapback]248953[/snapback]
Well we do both love to spoon wub.gif

...with that big stirry wooden one darling! wub.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-28 17:26:37
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Mar 28 2007, 05:17 PM) [snapback]248956[/snapback]
Yes, but take into consideration that Stranraer played both us and Stirling in what was, and what has been a very rough patch. Also add to that, the fact that they beat us away from home. I don't think that you can argue that, on the whole, our results at Cappielow have been terrific for most of the season, and the idea of Cowdenbeath coming here, 6-1 in their last game or not, doesn't worry me.

Lets remember that we are Morton. We are NOT going to lose six goals against Cowdenbeath. They can score 6 goals against Stranraer, but an Morton team at the start of the season could have possibly done the same if they knew how to score in the second half.

Four goals shows that Morton are hitting the target. Another four shots on target saved show that, again, Morton players hit the target. Against a keeper NOT having a tremendous day, Morton COULD have scored more than four goals. Once again, that isn't hard to see. Complaining about shots hitting the woodwark also doesn't mean much to me either, since shots like that must only be missing the goal by an inch, and could just have easily gone in. Luck of the day I suppose.

EXACTLY

I started the post with the clue-'Funny old game'-I meant that-previous form is no guarantee of anything in football. My post was intended to encourage debate-nothing more and nothing less.
mortonjag 2007-03-28 17:47:02
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 28 2007, 04:52 PM) [snapback]248941[/snapback]
The pain is at the base of my back and I'm also getting muscle spasms around the kidney area on both side, the pain is constant at the bottom of my back but the spasms are aggravated by turning, I don't feel sick or anything and have had the spasms before but never any back pain as such, I have been given 500mg tablets of Co-dydramol, not sure if its any good or not as I've never took them before.

It's probably an acute strain, but if it's not easing get your G.P. in midTONs. Tell the Hitlers on the switchboard it's an emergency if necessary. After all you're a valuable TON supporter!

Co-dydramol tablets contain paracetamol, with a wee dollop of dihydrocodeine-moderately strong, but only pain killers. They've got no anti inflammatory or muscle relaxant properties. Some of the tips from the others are good-in particular local heat-a hot water bottle's as good as anything, and rest fot the first 24 hours or so. After that gentle exercise is better than lying about.
mortonjag 2007-03-28 17:50:31
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 28 2007, 05:01 PM) [snapback]248947[/snapback]
Aint this message board something else ? Medical consultations and advice, would you believe it. Watch old Mentaljag though, he's been struck off once. laugh.gif

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And I thought I'd managed to keep it a secret!
mortonjag 2007-03-28 17:54:37
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 28 2007, 01:25 PM) [snapback]248825[/snapback]
Said it before and I'll say it again - snakes with tits the whole lot of them. Don't let anyone convince you otherwise.

Heed my words mo chara - they are adders with bladders.

TonInDublin

FFS those Irish asps take some beating- the pythons I've been choked by have only had two each!
mortonjag 2007-03-28 18:22:43
QUOTE(briggsTON @ Mar 28 2007, 06:00 PM) [snapback]248987[/snapback]
The scorers were Thorup, Joe Mason and Tony Taylor

Apologies Auld yin!

Per Bartram was your traditional centre forward-strong bustling and no messing, and unlike quite a few of the Danes, he looked the part too, with striking Nordic features.
mortonjag 2007-03-28 18:29:46
QUOTE(Andy M @ Mar 28 2007, 06:12 PM) [snapback]248992[/snapback]
What you on about ?? At the last count on the poll thread, there are a total of 29 people who could be put into this category.

On my way out of Viewbank, I certainly got the impression that most of our fans were totally disenchanted with the manager.

Misplaced loyalty Andy-I'm not saying the poll is an accurate reflection of opinion, percentage wise, but at the moment JM's 'persona non grata' with the majority.
mortonjag 2007-03-28 18:31:16
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 28 2007, 06:06 PM) [snapback]248989[/snapback]
The Evening Times have speculatively linked our Macca with the Thistle job given that he's out of contract in the summer. Assuming we go up and Thistle stay up, would it be a good move for him given the Jag's perilous financial state and would it be a good move for us given everyone's negative feelings towards his style of football?

They would-wouldn't they. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-28 18:36:45
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 28 2007, 06:06 PM) [snapback]248989[/snapback]
The Evening Times have speculatively linked our Macca with the Thistle job given that he's out of contract in the summer. Assuming we go up and Thistle stay up, would it be a good move for him given the Jag's perilous financial state and would it be a good move for us given everyone's negative feelings towards his style of football?

I'm not one of Makin Ali's admirers, but looking at it from his point of view, and assuming we're promoted, the Thistle job is a poisoned chalice.
mortonjag 2007-03-28 18:39:25 'If you were any slower you'd be going backwards'.
mortonjag 2007-03-28 21:53:43
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Mar 28 2007, 09:20 PM) [snapback]249046[/snapback]
Far to sensible a post for this msgboard

What are you doing on it then if it's below your intellect?

ArgyllsTon's entitled to get behind the manager if he wants, and he's a decent guy with no hidden agenda.

You, on the other hand, refuse to reveal your identity, though your agenda is poorly disguised. You never join in the normal debate, fun, and banter with the rest of us, and IMO would be better sticking to GMFC.net where you belong, instead of swanning on here with pathetic jibes the minute you sense an ounce of support for your blind loyalty.
mortonjag 2007-03-29 05:24:08
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 28 2007, 07:15 PM) [snapback]249023[/snapback]
Steady on, it would be a first if we agreed on something. ohmy.gif

Morality can exist without the belief in a deity. I suspect that in any moral framework we would always choose the lesser of two evils. Sometimes abortion may be that lesser evil. That we would agree I'm sure is common sense.

I'm just very unhappy with the eugenic practice of killing weans who have a handicap. I mentioned teaching a lovely girl with spina bifida. I have also taught Downs kids. Another ground for abortion. Quality of life, seems fine to me.

Ach it's naw an easy argument though. I just dislike the supposition that seems to exist that such children are worth less than "normal" children.

In my experience 'such children' are frequently a delight to all involved with them, and appreciate life's values more than their 'normal' peers.

The downside (no pun intended) is that having commendably foregone abortion, many parents' lives are devastated by a relentless daily battle to come to terms with the realities of trying to cope with a severely handicapped child whose 'quality of life', by any standards, appears minimal.
mortonjag 2007-03-29 05:50:55
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 28 2007, 09:49 PM) [snapback]249057[/snapback]
Aye, not old enough yet to realise the WHOLE ball must cross the WHOLE of the line before a goal is awarded? Ball was on the line when Jamie kicked it.

What a petty argument this is anyway.

Mortonjag, I was directly behind it aye.

dry.gif Apparently the camera never lies rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-29 06:11:41
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Mar 28 2007, 10:48 PM) [snapback]249096[/snapback]
I genuinely don't think our fans are any more critical than the fans of other teams. I believe our recent history has a lot to do with the panic in the ranks. It's healthy to have different views about our progress and the qualities/failings of our management - but I agree with Argyll there's been too much of it about.
You've made your points very clear, can we not have an amnesty between now and the end of the season ? Then you can either eat humble pie or arrange the firing squad ?

btw I know that certain posters on here don't do humble dry.gif

'Certain posters on here' have predicted for a long time that promotion will be gained this year despite the manager's best efforts, and will, therefore, not need to 'do humble'.

None of those posters has, to the best of my knowledge, ever suggested that JM is doing anything other than his utmost for the club-his intentions have never been questioned.

His apparent lack of imagination may be frustrating, but it seems to me he is far more sincere than those posters who just over a week ago were ready to' throw him to the dogs' and are now back at his side.

Maybe this Eva Braun from 9 Strathblane Cr. (Aye right), has more influence than I thought! dry.gif

I'll avoid confrontation on the Makin Ali issue until it merits further discussion. Like Chrissiboi, however, I think before I comment, and have no need to retract previous statements.
mortonjag 2007-03-29 06:20:15
QUOTE(Andy M @ Mar 28 2007, 06:48 PM) [snapback]249008[/snapback]
I've kinda stayed out of this debate until now, but to use "Misplaced loyalty" is a wee bit off.

I too was very disappointed with the performance at Forthbank. I was also disappointed walking out of Stair Park a few weeks back, but on countless other occasions this season I have been more than happy. We ARE top of the league and the manager has to take some credit for the games that we have won which have put us in this position.

Some of his decisions have baffled me to say the least. Some of them have been masterstrokes and others have been failures. I wont condemn him on the failures because the masterstrokes have out-weighed the failures so far this season.

Suffice to say that I disagree with your idea of the majority - most people say nothing when things are going well, but the minority shout the loudest when a glitch appears - we have had a few glitches this season, but on the whole JM has steered us well - that's why we are still top.

I may of course help to turn the minority into a majority if we are not still top after the next 6 games. wink.gif

You are a credit to the board Sir-a true diplomat who can stand his ground in an inoffensive manner.

I intend to adopt you as my role model. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-29 06:22:44
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Mar 28 2007, 06:52 PM) [snapback]249011[/snapback]
And on that point - I don't believe that there are 29 people on here who would put their name to a poll saying gtf back to Celtic ya p***k . Not suggesting that there are one or two obsessives doing multiple voting or anything.....
... wink.gif but I'd be really shocked if even a dozen posters admitted to clicking on that option. Would the guilty parties care to have the courage of their convictions and step forward ? I can think of three definites.

Well you can rule me out for starters cloth ears. I criticised the slant put on the poll, and voted for option 2. Moreover, I made that very point at the time of voting. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-29 06:26:08
QUOTE(Savo @ Mar 28 2007, 07:02 PM) [snapback]249017[/snapback]
Forthbank maybe? tongue.gif
Sorry MJ, couldn't resist. biggrin.gif

Viewbank-Forthbank-they're all the same to me-FFS I can't even get peace to eat my Coco Pops unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-29 06:39:31
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Mar 28 2007, 08:25 PM) [snapback]249037[/snapback]
In the words of Jim Royale...my arse...just because you think you speak for the majority, have I got news for you, you don't.

We are top of the league, not second or third but top. Who in a sane frame of mind would dump a manager who has them at the top of the league.

Your in the minority on this one. McInally has made mistakes but who doesn't. The league position never lies, if your top its because your the best.

Get over it, McInally is going to be with us for some time to come. I'm not so sure you will.

It's not very ladylike to talk about your 'arse'.

I don't 'think I speak for the majority' who in my experience are frequently mistaken. I was merely reflecting the opinions which came out from that poll.

I did not vote to 'dump' our manager.

The league position frequently lies over the course of a season. Being top at any given time does NOT indicate supremacy.

You state that 'McInally is going to be with us for some time'. Is that your own decision Madam, or do you have the ear of the Chairman and directors? mad.gif

I shall be a loyal supporter of Greenock Morton 'til the day I die, and I assure you that your sticking of your nasty little pins into a mortonjag effigy is the very tonic I need to keep going for ever.

Greenock Morton is FAR bigger than any Chairman, Board, Chief Executive, Manager, or players.
mortonjag 2007-03-29 06:46:53
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Mar 28 2007, 09:52 PM) [snapback]249060[/snapback]
Aye, that one had me doing a Google search too.

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Get with the program MortonJug.

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mortonjag 2007-03-29 06:50:50
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 28 2007, 10:50 PM) [snapback]249097[/snapback]
That's one hell of a choice. McInally or Mentaljag ? I'm stumped for an answer. But if McInally goes, the mad Doctor may retire shortly thereafter, his 'goal' having been achieved. That may be a good compromise. laugh.gif

Mr Edwards, I am currently loading a large syringe with an unspecified substance-you have finally driven me to this. Prepare to meet thy doom! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-29 06:57:23
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Mar 29 2007, 12:38 AM) [snapback]249112[/snapback]
Naw, Graeme Speirs thinks he's MortonJag.

I've not spoken to Graeme since he was a wee boy, when his 'Da' was a Minister in Hillhead. He was a lovely wee boy, I may add.
mortonjag 2007-03-29 07:01:26
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Mar 28 2007, 10:21 PM) [snapback]249083[/snapback]
You must've been right beside me then. I was the guy standing with his better half just to the right of the goals.

Nice looking lady-poor taste in men! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-29 07:04:55
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Mar 28 2007, 11:08 PM) [snapback]249100[/snapback]
I was sat with my other half right behind DDFR and Son and Co, however just sat behind me there were two guys sat just behind us and I said to Jackton, I am sure that is MJ and his Brother sat at the back - but obviously not if you were behind goal.

That has just reminded me actually, DDFR was very, very vocal on Sunday shouting words of encouragement to the lads on the park, particularly Jim McAllister. - Interesting really, to hear it you would have sworn that the guy was managing the team with his enthusiasm.

It was actually a pleasant suprise to hear it.

mmm-I don't think anybody doubts Shoogly's heart's in the right place, but I can't help a wee smile at his obvious fondness for one of the arguably inexplicable 'ever presents'. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-29 07:46:38
QUOTE(1insert_player_here @ Mar 28 2007, 07:02 PM) [snapback]249019[/snapback]
Put mortonjag on ignore. Sorted. laugh.gif

Not the first, and won't be the last! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-29 08:00:29 Is this not Mr McColl's first season in 'the hot seat'. I'd definitely give him at least one more-oh what the hell then-two more, and if he's not much better...erm...reassess the situation. wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-29 08:02:35 'If you were chocolate you'd have eaten yourself by now'.
mortonjag 2007-03-29 08:05:43
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 29 2007, 12:18 AM) [snapback]249108[/snapback]
Alloa Sheriff Court heard that the mother-of-three was arrested along with friend Ann McCallum, of Delphwood Crescent, also Tullibody, following an 11-day undercover operation involving officers from both Central Scotland CID and the force's tactical crime unit.

Officers found ''Aladdins Cave''

Reporting officer in the case, Det Con Roy Lake, said: "This was a significant achievement made by officers
ion

In my selfish opinion people who put gnomes in their gardens deserve what's coming to them. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-29 08:51:58
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Mar 29 2007, 08:03 AM) [snapback]249180[/snapback]
I like that bit. While a few can't handle it, the board would be a poorer place without your contribution . BUT the constant analysis of his perceived faults - is fairly pointless at this stage of the season. You've consistently said that we will go up so you might not need to do humble ,but we'll see how we progress next season - that should be the acid test.

Fair enough!

If you check my posts cornbeef, you'll find that I'm not usually the one who initiates anti manager threads-I post so often I honestly can't be certain but don't think I EVER have.

Furthermore, I confess to 'going on like trumpet' about the same 'old chestnuts', but it is almost invariably in response to a jibe, a rebuke, or a serious question, and as you say yourself, it keeps things going.

In reality I have a very strong sense of freedom of speech, and I have no objection to totally opposite views to mine, provided that's what they are. All too often silly comments are made PURELY in an attempt to discredit me.

There is, however, one issue where I will stand firm-attempted censoring of ANY of us. There has been a recent ill disguised attempt at this from someone who purports to be a bona fide poster. Many may have been slightly amused at my 'telling off', but I hope they are also able to see a more devious side to that type of behaviour.
mortonjag 2007-03-29 08:55:57
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Mar 29 2007, 08:10 AM) [snapback]249182[/snapback]
Wow ! I'd have lost money on this one ( I can't remember your post - must have been on ignore )

So far only two willing to stand up (plus Toby ,probably ?) Interesting , I think.

I've said several times it's far too late in the season to think about change, and that the young players probably couldn't cope with it. The season is not finished-there is still time for my opinion to bend.
mortonjag 2007-03-29 09:28:43
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Mar 29 2007, 09:19 AM) [snapback]249196[/snapback]
how have you managed to make over 5500 posts with your head stuck so far up your own arse ???? unsure.gif dry.gif

By keeking out of my mouth of course.
mortonjag 2007-03-29 09:30:19
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Mar 29 2007, 08:29 AM) [snapback]249184[/snapback]
If I fell into a bucket of tits, I'd come out sucking my thumb!

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mortonjag 2007-03-29 10:01:39
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Mar 29 2007, 09:41 AM) [snapback]249202[/snapback]
Eat your carrots - They will help you see in the dark. Pish that's what a torch is for.

I prefer a bucket weegie!
mortonjag 2007-03-29 10:03:14
QUOTE(Pat SharpTon @ Mar 29 2007, 09:23 AM) [snapback]249197[/snapback]
How's those supposetries working out for ya, Jag?

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mortonjag 2007-03-29 10:14:20
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 29 2007, 10:01 AM) [snapback]249208[/snapback]
Look at the photographic evidence on page 1 of this thread, the ball was OVER the line before Jamie even got near it !!!!

Which photo is it-by number?
mortonjag 2007-03-29 11:30:36
QUOTE(Pat SharpTon @ Mar 29 2007, 10:26 AM) [snapback]249230[/snapback]
That sore, eh?

mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif wacko.gif ph34r.gif !
mortonjag 2007-03-29 11:38:48
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 29 2007, 10:32 AM) [snapback]249235[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Mar 27 2007, 03:57 PM) [snapback]248436[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Sanny's goal !

[attachment=2743:Sanny_vs_Brechin.jpg]

This one smile.gif

Are you at the wind up?
The ball went in at the goalies far left hand side-those two photo's show it as the players are turning away and after Jamie hat clattered it off the back of the net.
mortonjag 2007-03-29 11:41:54
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 29 2007, 10:39 AM) [snapback]249240[/snapback]
laugh.gif You do well at the come backs Doctor, I'll give you that.

Ask a silly question DE!

How do you get down from an elephant? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-03-29 12:02:15 I've taken on board the recent comments about criticism of the manager becoming repetitive. I, for one, have no intention of making any further assessments of him until after Saturday's game, which I sincerely hope we can win emphatically.

In return, will all the posters who 'ripped the manager to shreds' after the Stirling game, only to 'return to the fold' this week, confirm that they will give the manager their continued unstinting support irrespective of the outcome of the Cowdenbeath game?
mortonjag 2007-03-29 13:27:16
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Mar 29 2007, 12:09 PM) [snapback]249280[/snapback]
Well Woohoo, that's f***in big of you !!! mad.gif

i've never had anything but unstinting support for the manager & team, and will do next season as well when JM proves you wrong.

Excellent, though your comments are totally irrelevant on this thread.
mortonjag 2007-03-29 13:29:06
QUOTE(argyllsTon @ Mar 29 2007, 12:16 PM) [snapback]249281[/snapback]
The only thing that annoyed me about the Stirling game MJ was about the subs ie why change a winning team etc. On Sunday morning i forgot all about sat, probably due to being rat arsed the night before tongue.gif . As ive stated on the other thread i will wait till the end of the season to give my input.
And the latest score here at Cappielow is Morton 3 Cowdungbeath 0

Fair enough AT!
mortonjag 2007-03-29 13:30:28
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 29 2007, 12:20 PM) [snapback]249283[/snapback]
I openly criticised the manager after the Stirling game and admit I later regretted to doing so (I don't like to criticise any player or manager before the job is done one or two bad results or games doesn't mean you are a failure) even though I still believe he got his substitutions wrong at the end of the day we are still 4pts clear at the top of the league and I believe we will still go on and win it, no one expected Stirling to have the season they are having but that's football. If we don't go up then I would expect Jim to walk and if not to be pushed.

Again, fair do's!
mortonjag 2007-03-29 13:35:18
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 29 2007, 12:48 PM) [snapback]249294[/snapback]
I commented on the fact that I felt his substitutions cost us the game...however I could see what he was trying to do. As for my unstinting support, I'm not sure he ever had it because I don't really care how we get out of this division, just that we do.

You're the third poster to give some sort of explanation-but the ones I'm aiming at are the silent brigade who clearly completely swung a huge majority in the previous poll, on the basis of that result.

WHERE ARE YOU?
mortonjag 2007-03-29 13:48:24
QUOTE(piehutt @ Mar 29 2007, 01:37 PM) [snapback]249325[/snapback]
I think the main differences are that this was after a bad result in a crunch game.

You have criticised the manager after winning games and being clear at the top of the league.

In order to be double standards all conditions would have to be the same.

That is EXACTLY the point piehutt-I made my assessment a long time ago, and have been willing to acknowledge improvement which I don't believe has come. I think others want the luxury of saying the manager's 'brand new' one week, and 'rubbish' the next, and that's hardly consistent.
mortonjag 2007-03-29 13:52:10
QUOTE(suda @ Mar 29 2007, 12:30 PM) [snapback]249289[/snapback]
i don't remember talking to you on the way out of Forthbank but thanks for being the self appointed spokesman for the "majority" of fans anyway

I take it you were the one who was chanting 'Lay off Jim' you imbecile. I don't mind you having a go at me, but on this you're just being a f*cking liar for the sake of it. You know perfectly well the majority of the fans were raging and felt cheated at that moment.
mortonjag 2007-03-29 13:56:30
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Mar 29 2007, 01:40 PM) [snapback]249326[/snapback]
Three excellent posts which saved me typing one up!

I've already replied to all three-two excellent posts totally spoiled by the faecal eruption of the cretin in the middle who wants to dictate the rules for all posters, and then states that I think I speak for the majority, when in fact I was merely quoting the results of a poll.
mortonjag 2007-04-09 09:02:46
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 8 2007, 08:23 PM) [snapback]253505[/snapback]
MJ said the last week that there was too much negativity towards the manager and he wouldn't make further comments until the end of the season , that accounts for his silence .
This game is obviously the humping that we knew we would give someone , but this could also point at how bad a result the 1-1 draw in December was when we failed to hold onto a commanding points difference .

Correct-my opinions have not changed in the slightest-just to quote one example, I've been saying Spoonsy's a striker, ever since he was forced to accept the no. 2 slot.

Saturday's result proves nothing we didn't all know already-we were bound to give somebody a hiding sooner or later, and Forfar are pure crap. We should have thoroughly tanned them at Station Park too.

I believe we'll do it on Saturday. I won't be back on here 'til after the game, but will leave you all with a parting thought.

IF we collapse against Raith, I'll think no more or less of JM.

CAN YOU LOT SAY THE SAME? mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-10 06:58:30
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 10 2007, 12:33 AM) [snapback]254107[/snapback]
As you say quite rightly arklesTon if managers are accountable to sports reporters then should they not also to accountable to their own supporters . Managers give every oppurtunity for the press to grill them daily yet supporters have only the chance one a year or to vocally express their point at games which isin't exactly the calmist of atmospheres . So supporters have unofficial forums like this as the only means of open debate about what is good as well as bad at their respective club .
We already know what the board think of this type of supporters forum after the comment made earlier in the season . After 4 years playing in the same division while watching others on a similar standing get promoted through our own failures . To expect for anyone to be exempt from criticism under those circumstances would seem a tad short sighted .
I hope you are wrong in your assessment of why we are now on the brink of promotion because if it is so then we will only be masking a deficency that will reappear in the near future . While I wholeheartedly welcome the escape from this tedious league I have expressed my concern that the financial burden to do so . I know that at this time DDFR is picking up the tab but would those finances have served us better in a higher league if we had been more frugal in this league . I certainly don't think we have had enough reward for staying fulltime when it only accounts for winning a part time league at the fourth time of asking .
For anyone to be wholly satisfied with our present situation when DDFR has had to twice adjust his masterplan shows a rather niave mentality .
I will be celebrating on Saturday but that will not mean that I and others have no right to have any reservations about the hows and whys it has taken so long to acheive .

I think your final highlighted comment says it all. After the Stirling defeat the weans on here were keeching their nappies and wanted rid of that bad man McInally.

A couple of decent results with a humping of an already demoralised shower of part timers, and EVERYTHING about us is yet again wonderful.

Talk about 'women'! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-11 06:59:18
QUOTE(suda @ Apr 10 2007, 07:12 PM) [snapback]254346[/snapback]
I agree with you there that would show common sense and prudence however I do feel he has deserved the chance to take the team into the 1st division and test himself there. I don't think MortonJag and possibly one or two others even want to give him that chance and are only waiting in the wings to badger him again when they feel the time is right.

If DR does tie him up on a long contract it could prove costly but ultimately he will pay for that mistake himself.

I believe he is just about to pass his driving test at the third attempt. Despite his relative lack of skill at the wheel, road conditions have been more favourable on this occasion.

A large celebration is in order-nobody can deny this is an achievement.

While sporting his green and white 'P' plate, I certainly would allow him to drive nothing bigger than the test vehicle- crashing a bus can have more serious implications.

DO I MAKE MYSELF CLEAR? smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-13 06:27:40
QUOTE(nach0king @ Apr 11 2007, 09:44 AM) [snapback]254557[/snapback]
Yes, I think, deep down, you're gutted that he's learning from his mistakes.

No you DON'T!

Provocation in moderation I'd call that, and I won't bite. I'll be as happy as a pig in s*** if he gets us up to the SPL next time.

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mortonjag 2007-04-13 06:32:28
QUOTE(tontastic @ Apr 13 2007, 12:50 AM) [snapback]255573[/snapback]
Well at the risk of giving sensible ideas ...

How much do you write just now? One reason that a lot of people make grammatical or spelling mistakes is lack of practice. You might find if you took the time to write a few hundred words a day then you will start exercising your brain more in this department. You could start writing a blog (web log) or just keep a log of stuff that you are doing. If you are doing it in a modern word processor such as microsoft word, there are spelling and grammar checking systems built in that will keep you right.

You could also set yourself the task of always writing any emails or texts in "full" rather than using abbreviations, which would be good practice.

If you don't read a lot then starting to read more diverse or indeed classic material might help you, provided you can see the differences between common mistakes that you make, and hopefully "proper" writers getting it correct.

Buy yourself a decent dictionary, keep it next to your computer. Whenever you lookup a word because you are not sure (rather than typing it and hitting the spell check button) have a look at the words in the vicinity, make sure you understand them all.

Get involved in proof reading, or start contributing to wikipedia or project gutenburg. Anything that gets you writing more, for a purpose should improve you in the area you are looking for.

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mortonjag 2007-04-14 07:01:06
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 13 2007, 01:34 PM) [snapback]255735[/snapback]
The best way to improve your spelling and grammar is to read a lot. Preferably from an early age.

Also, whatever you do, don't follow the examples of 90% of football pundits - Charlie Nicholas is NOT a good role model for grammar.

If you're under about 45, you probably didn't do much grammar at school - parsing sentences and that sort of stuff. That's the main reason for the decline in spelling and grammar, which as far as I can deduce from the abilities of my staff who vary in age from 17 to 63, is nowhere near as well understood as it was for those who started primary school before about 1965.

TV and computer games haven't helped either; nor has the dumbing down of everything. Few people nowadays seem to know the difference between "imply" and "infer", for example. There are countless other examples of misuse of words. It's "between you and me", never "between you and I".

The fact that you want to improve your spelling and grammar is half the battle.

I think your point about Charlie Nicholas highlights a general problem-namely that most folks get their education from the media nowadays, and it seems that almost anything goes there!

The use of grammar, even on high profile documentaries and news programmes is poor to say the least, and whatever happened to pronunciation?

Listen to the next 'flashy' lady reading the weather forecast for ScotLIND! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-15 06:18:58 As I predicted early in the season, we have won promotion in spite of JM's best efforts, but full credit to him for them-I MEAN that sincerely-I've never doubted his integrity-only his ability.

Yesterday's performance further confirmed what I've been saying all season, and the effect of JUST ONE decent squad motivator was rammed right down Jim's throat by the performance of Marvin Andrews, while at Somerset Park, an EXPERIENCED manager did the business for us, when we yet again were, frankly, an embarrassment.

IMO the best thing that could happen now is for Jim to get an offer he can't refuse, and move on to 'greater things'. That is unlikely to happen, and DDFR will blunder on aimlessly, continuing to get more wrong than right with his two rookie 'yes men' at the helm, until you fickle lot finally open your eyes to reality.

The celebrations at Kirkcaldy were way OTT-most had had a wee bit too much to drink, but there was NO excuse for 'microphone man', who was 'getting it right up' the fans, only a short time ago, but saw nothing wrong with his infantile behaviour on somebody else's patch, AND after a defeat.

That should all have been reserved for next Saturday.

Now that we are promoted, I don't need any more any more s*** from the likes of 9 Strathblane Cr., who accused me of single handedly trying to scupper our chances, and I won't listen to the weans who accuse me of not being a true supporter, when I've been watching the TON from before they, and even some of their fathers were born.

Most of all I don't want the usual stuff about me having a personal issue with JM. We are there at last-it's been a long, hard, and frequently frustrating and needlessly painful struggle, but we are there.

We now have the chance to move forward, and we could do it quite efficiently if the Chairman was able to take a long hard look at the set up, AND accept some independent advice.

That is unlikely to happen, and I sense that before we're far into next season, yesterday's gross overreaction to a foregone conclusion will soon be forgotten.
mortonjag 2007-04-16 06:43:50 I've just read the responses to my (and Narky's) opinions, and you lot have the cheek to call US predictable. The abusive comments aren't even original or funny.

All you ever do is state the obvious, which is exactly what the press does too, but at least the journos have had the honesty to highlight the struggle we've had all season.

It somehow seems to have sailed right over most of your hung over heads that we were a total flop again on Saturday. Nobody has acknowledged my comment about Marvin Andrews, and McInally's stubborn refusal to sign a similar motivating force, nor has anyone taken issue with my statement that Neil Watt-an EXPERIENCED manager-did the business for us while we contrived to blow yet another opportunity.

There is a HUGE difference between us and Gretna-Mileson has, to date at least, made an overnight success from a scatterbrained idea. He will fail in the end simply because of logistics, but the 'on field' success is down to sensible delegation to capable employees.

DDFR's idea has been thoroughly sound from the word 'go', but as I've stated, he continues to blunder forward with not a thought in the world about delegation.

This IS Dougie's show, and by GOD he was loving it on Saturday-no wonder when the old fart has taken four expensive seasons to achieve what could have been done in Mileson style.

Now those are just my OPINIONS. If you yet again want to make complete fools of yourselves by repeating stories from the history book, go right ahead.

mortonjag 2007-04-18 06:08:29 Let's face it-Jim hasn't a snowball's chance in hell-this vote will reflect Scottish football opinion-not that of a hard core of Morton supporters savouring their pre 1st Division Honeymoon period.
mortonjag 2007-04-19 06:13:52
QUOTE(marx @ Apr 18 2007, 11:41 PM) [snapback]258520[/snapback]
True Mortonjag, I hope Jim gets it but the increasingly irritating Strachan will no doubt get it.

At least JM's a likeable chap-I mean that sincerely.
mortonjag 2007-04-19 06:17:56
QUOTE(morton_forever @ Apr 18 2007, 05:29 PM) [snapback]258395[/snapback]
I seem to remember when we won the 3rd division a few years ago that we had the all time highest points total with 72 points.

This season, so far, we're on 76 points.

Does this mean we have witnessed the highest ever points won this season?

And before anyone says it, I know Ton teams in the past would have achieved higher, had it not been the old 2points for a win instead of the 3 now, but still, its quite an achievement if true?

No doubt there's a mistake in there somewhere and I'm sure someone will correct me tongue.gif

S.K smile.gif

In terms of just points it's certainly an achievement. In our best ever season, however, we lost only one game, rattled in a barrowload of goals, and played the most exciting attacking football ever seen at Cappielow.
mortonjag 2007-04-20 06:28:40 DDFR is inexperienced as a MD of a football club. He has eventually achieved promotion to division one after five years, IN SPITE of having an inexperienced manager with inexperienced players.

In itself they have all achieved-I have not tried to deny that, but it has been needlessly painful, and it looks like Rae has learned nothing.

In yesterday's Herald he attributes the success of 'Golden Casket' to taking care of the gross profit. The rest, he claims, takes care of itself. I'm certain Shoogly listens to his accountant, banker, and lawyer when it comes to the sweeties, but football-that's different.

Earlier this week he was saying in the 'Sun', that as long as there's a breath in his body, he'll remain in charge of GMFC.

So we can expect more of the same next season I guess. JM may very well prove to be a competent manager in time, but if our 'saviour' applied his business ethos to his hobby the former would be gone by now.

For those of you who are too stupid to see this, or simply 'wet behind the ears' there's always time to learn.

The way ahead for the TON is to have somebody running it professionally-not an aging autocrat who thinks that making sweeties and the SPL are the same thing.
mortonjag 2007-04-22 07:25:33 It's funny, I was just sitting having a s*** there, and thinking about the kind of player we need to motivate our 'championes', after two further collapses-and I wondered-would somebody like Lennon come to a first division club-then I read this!!

I can't stand the guy's persona, but if he can do what's needed to turn our flawed talent into a killing machine, and save McInally's bacon next year, I'll welcome him with open arms.
mortonjag 2007-04-22 07:36:39
QUOTE(Cawston @ Apr 21 2007, 09:10 PM) [snapback]260027[/snapback]
The more I think it through the more I'm sure we're going to have a great season next time out.

It's going to be a tough league with lot's of clubs of a similar size with similar ambitions, but we're in great shape for making a challenge.

We've built a decent side, something that a number of the teams there don't haven't had the luxury of. I'm convinced we'll strengthen with quality in contrast to the likes of Thistle and Airdrie who've taken on any old dross when they've been in the same position.

Getting out the second took a bit longer than hoped and it certainly stalled things, but we've blown those cobwebs off now and I'll reckon we'll see the true extent of Dougie's ambitions.

The next couple of years could be very exciting.

C'mon the Ton!

The shackles are off-free at last-we're free at last, and we're going to 'Storm' the 1st division next year!

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Prophetic words indeed-NO-f*cking MINCE.

Or was yesterday's game just the calm before that storm?

How can you possibly make such a ludicrous comment when you haven't a clue who'll be playing for us, or even if JM will still be manager. If we went up right now without a change to personnel we'd do OK and get a chance to play better football, but even Gretna-as I predicted before the start of the season, have struggled in Division 1.
mortonjag 2007-04-22 07:43:09 I started watching just as Hal Stewart took over. At the time we'd been bottom of the old second division, and were often described as 'a music hall joke'. Can't remember if it's 47 or 48 years ago come this August.

Maybe that's why I HATE the behaviour of the rose tinted 'bouncy bouncy' weans-I'm just getting to be a grumpy old fart, but aye I DO LOVE MY MORTON! wub.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-22 07:55:16 DDFR in totally predictable splurge of sh*t.

'Nobody outside the dressing room really believed we'd do' it he claims, oh, and he didn't forget the wee dig about the critics dispiriting the players, while in the same breath rambling on about the 'tremendous spirit' behind the scenes.

I for one Mr Rae, believed from day one that we'd do it-DESPITE you and your manager-and only because the boys themselves were ultimately too good not to win a totally crap division.

I for one Mr Rae, have not been a critic of individual players, who have always done their best DESPITE you-Mr 'Daddy knows best', and your 'rookie' manager.

AND, I for one Mr Rae invite you to step aside gracefully. You're welcome to sit beside Arthur and savour success if you have the balls to admit once and for all that you know f*ck all about running a football club.

Dougie-we're both TON supporters, and we both want the best. Wake up and smell the coffee.
mortonjag 2007-04-22 08:16:37 I've been lying low for the last wee while-finally sickened by those who are easily pleased.

Nobody, it seems, is allowed to criticise anything. Our championship status provides the necessary 'street cred' for those weans who imagine that all is well at Scapa-anybody who dares to think otherwise is wrong.

Do you all REALLY believe that in your inner hearts? I wonder.

Yesterday was another farce IMO. On the day we'd all been waiting for, we yet again failed to beat a team struggling in the basement, but it didn't seem to matter to most. Well I was frankly sickened by the whole debacle-a cheapskate DJ, some weans in dance suits, a totally naff 'penalty shoot out', and another £14 down the drain.

If we lose at Ayr, our Champions will have taken one point from their last nine. I imagined that yesterday would have been the day to blood some of our fringe players-it would have shown some forward thinking, and they would not have been jaded, but as usual, the singular lack of imagination prevailed.

I'm afraid folks that if this is good enough for you lot, it ain't for me. I remember so well our first game after we won the third division-we were expecting great things but 'blew it' at Berwick.

I guarantee that if nothing changes radically over the closed season in terms of our 'hands on' chairman, little improved manager, and bland squad, it's just going to be much of the same old frustration next season.
mortonjag 2007-04-23 06:55:49 wub.gif
QUOTE(Edinton @ Apr 22 2007, 01:58 PM) [snapback]260446[/snapback]
God i've missed you, its just not the same without you. Please, don't go away for so long next time (seriously).

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mortonjag 2007-04-23 07:22:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 22 2007, 08:05 AM) [snapback]260266[/snapback]
AND, I for one Mr Rae invite you to step aside gracefully. You're welcome to sit beside Arthur and savour success if you have the balls to admit once and for all that you know f*ck all about running a football club.
Gidday mortonjag,

It's been reported that DDFR as no intention of selling his controlling stake in the Ton.

So, how do you suggest he should "step aside" ?

And if he does, how is the 2007/2008 campaign to be financed ?

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Good morning, good Sir. You must stop reading the board selectively, and take to a regular daily scanning of its encyclopaedic wisdom.

I have said elsewhere on more than one occasion that in his latter years, old 'Shoogly' would do himself and others a huge favour, if he retained financial control of the club, and delegated the running to a paid and experienced executive, instead of a wee lassie who posts on the official web site and answers the 'phone and e-mails.

I'm heart sick of the 'hands on' 'Shoogly Show', with the predictable antics of his two managerial glove puppets.

The man is a self obsessed autocrat who GENUINELY believes he gets it right-hardly surprising when the assembly of sycophants behind the Scapa scenes have been carefully selected by himself.

Rae has done ONLY ONE THING for us-splashed the cash, but he can't leave it at that, and his inability to delegate has been a thorn in our flesh from day one.

So long as other posters fail to see this, he will continue to be hailed as the 'Saviour' who can do no wrong.

I'm now being accused of 'turning on him'-RUBBISH-my opinion has never faltered from the day I met him in hospitality-an absolute stereotype of the benign dictator.

I believe the players AND the manager have done their best this season. JM is not to blame for accepting a job he wasn't up to (which includes keeping the chairman and directors OUT of the dressing room like McGraw did), and the lads can't be faulted for frequently 'getting lost' without any direction from an on or off field motivator.

There IS time for JM to improve-I've no idea how much his progress has been hindred by interference from 'on high', but DDFR will never change, so for those of you who are quite happy with the 'Shoogly Show', be sure to tune in later this year for more of what you love best children. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-23 07:40:09
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 22 2007, 08:14 AM) [snapback]260268[/snapback]
but even Gretna-as I predicted before the start of the season, have struggled in Division 1.
have struggled in Division 1.

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aye, right, mortonjag - and they will have to struggle for another 6 days.

I hope that next season the Ton "struggles" as much or as little as Gretna has this season.

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Gretna were being hailed as 'living the dream' less than a year ago. They got to the cup final, into Europe, and were expected by most to steamroller the First division.

By Gretna's own standards-AND RECENT ADMISSIONS-they have struggled against the odds this time, and their promotion to the SPL is not yet guaranteed, though I hope they do it, as reality for them will come more quickly, with their ultimate demise as a serious proposition in Scottish football.

Mileson's swag bag is large, but not bottomless-end of story!
mortonjag 2007-04-23 11:25:38 The same deficiencies which saw us make a mountain out of what should have been a molehill are likely to remain.

1/ A chairman who can't keep his nose out of things he doesn't understand.

2/ An inexperienced and self effacing management team, whom the said chairman has in his pocket, and who haven't a clue about using resources to full advantage.

3/ An obsession with favourite young fit players-picked only for those qualities and with no regard for team selection, at the expense of the glaringly absent experience and motivation.


I said from the beginning of the season that Spoonsy is a 'striker' and always will be. Despite Gowser being touted as a striker, Weatherson has scored more from No 3. That's just one example of JM's unfailing ability to 'make it fit' when it doesn't.

Our other 'full back', Davie McG has been shown wanting on several occasions this season-Why-because the boy's played out of position and lacks pace. He's not a bad footballer, but just has to fit JM's jigsaw puzzle because he's one of 'Shoogly's boys, and we've too many midfielders IMO.

The forward line this season has, frankly, been a joke, but there again, Kenny McLean was ill, and Jimbo is another of Shoogly's weans, despite Ryan Russell having been SIGNED as a winger. It would seem JM doesn't believe in wing play.

For me, McAlister is the biggest victim of the lot. He was spotted in the pre-season friendly by Warnock-not as a left winger, which he never will be, but because the boy has talent-SO he gets played on the left all season, and for the five or six matches prior to Saturday his form was dire, just like Gowser's was for a couple of months, but the favourites at Scapa don't often get dropped. I'd love to hear what Midge did to upset that apple cart!

Add to that the inexplicable drop in form when established players arrive. Sanny, Kev, and Jamie were all signed for proven ability at this level-Stevenson's season has been a big disappointment relative to that of the cavalier young lad who led Alloa away from relegation, the Sanny story is history, and Finlayson is just another victim of the 'too many midfielders' syndrome.

BUT who am I to comment-after all we ARE champions, and to most, that's all that seems to matter.

With DDFR and JM at the helm, I'm sure I'll be proved wrong next season! biggrin.gif

mortonjag 2007-04-23 16:32:23 My goodness-seems I've said something wrong again. Just thought I'd pop in that innocent little post this morning as I've been so busy doing important things chaps!

Oh, and a point of correction-I did not leave Kircaldy before the celebrations, despite the fact we seemed to be celebrating a defeat. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-23 16:40:02
QUOTE(leyTON @ Apr 23 2007, 04:34 PM) [snapback]261034[/snapback]
you didnt say anything "wrong" mj, i agreed with must of your original post i just think that mcgregor has played well

You misunderstood me-I was referring to the thread in total-not to your reply. Davie's come onto a good game recently-he simply is not a left back.
mortonjag 2007-04-24 05:44:33
QUOTE(franco @ Apr 23 2007, 03:58 PM) [snapback]261018[/snapback]
I think this could be a great shout Ayrstorm, you've just outed MJ as HS. Explains it all really.

"The man is a self obsessed autocrat who GENUINELY believes he gets it right"

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mortonjag 2007-04-24 05:51:50 I've been deafened by the silence since this was posted. It just goes to show how little you 'knowalls' really know about Rae, and JM.

Well I'll give it to you from the horse's mouth-it's already sorted, but won't be announced 'til a later date.

I now await the usual five hundred posts in contradiction.

I cannot, of course, reveal my source, for professional reasons. wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-24 05:57:26
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Apr 23 2007, 09:10 PM) [snapback]261162[/snapback]
I have admitted and acknowledged it on many occasions. If you choose to treat my constructive criticisms as negativity then so be it but I am proud of what Morton have accomplished. Unfortunately people keeping coming up with some strange dillusion that I am negative.

The team, manager, back room staff, volunteers, fans etc ect have all done an absolutely fantastic job to get us where we are now.

I have only voiced my observations and the people that come back at me are the ones who choose to ignore the chinks in set up.

'Chinks' in the set up-what will 'Shoogly' think of next! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-24 06:05:51
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Apr 23 2007, 05:31 PM) [snapback]261055[/snapback]
That sentiment sums you up perfectly. My team won promotion at Kirkcaldy and if yours didn't then I feel sorry for you.

Heid up the arse again-Raith won the game-YOUR team won f*ck all, and if Stirling hadn't faltered the fickle brigade would have been firing another post Fortbank type salvo across JM's bows.

MY team did nothing at Kircaldy-the trophy was prematurely donated by Stirling's failure elsewhere.
mortonjag 2007-04-24 06:23:12
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Apr 23 2007, 05:43 PM) [snapback]261061[/snapback]
There really is no hope for you is there ? dry.gif

As someone else asked.

You don't like the chairman
You don't like the manager
You don't think the players are good enough
You think the fans are too loyal & stupid
You don't like the way the club or fans do ANYTHING.
You criticise everything that happens at cappielow
Just Why do you bother with morton ?
(notice i didn't say support) ? dry.gif

The chairman IMHO, is a likeable old fart
McInally is pleasant, though apparently somewhat facile
The players are definitely good enough for the second division-they won it.
Most fans are loyal-I don't think you can be too loyal-but I agree, this forum clearly demonstrates the disastrous consequences of a marriage of loyalty with stupidity.
At the moment I dislike much about the way the club does its business-what the fans do doesn't really bother me too much-after all most of them are idiots-but the club should know better.
I do indeed criticise everything that happens at Cappielow. Many of my criticisms have been positive.

WHY DO I BOTHER WITH MORTON?

God only knows-it's been one of the most frustrating seasons in 46 years-maybe it's got something to do with my upbringing, but I was always taught that if a job's worth doing, it's worth doing well.

We were also encouraged as kids to make the best of our resources-second best was never good enough.

I'm sorry-well not really-but one of my undying faults is that I can't abide somebody making an arse of a job he's supposed to be qualified for.

It IS my fault-I DO apply my own impeccably high standards to everbody else, and that's wrong.

Mind you I've been watching the TON for so long it's just become part of my life, and I DO love the club.

Maybe that's why I HATE anything that seems to be hampering its speedy recovery from a nigh terminal illness.
mortonjag 2007-04-24 06:27:53
QUOTE(axeman @ Apr 23 2007, 08:20 PM) [snapback]261126[/snapback]
Why was the traffic bad ?

The rest of us where still in Starks Park, where you cleared out from at the final whistle.
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I'm not quite sure if you are just 'at it' or not. If you genuinely believe that you are mistaken. I don't mind folk 'taking the rip', but blatant lies and gossip mongering are below the belt.
mortonjag 2007-04-24 06:34:58
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Apr 23 2007, 10:52 PM) [snapback]261224[/snapback]
I've got no problem with MJ's views or indeed his right to express them although I do find his constant need to play to the audience a bit dull. He enjoys the notoriety that comes with his condescending lectures on all things Morton and he can't resist acting as if he's the only voice of reason on this board.

Like many others I don't hold DDFR's management style in high regard but the last few weeks haven't really been about DDFR. They have been about Jim McInally and the team delivering what we have all waited on for years. Yes it wasn't a perfect season, yes Jim made some errors of judgement, yes some players lost form or focus during the campaign and yes as things stand we are probably in need of a few players to make a real impression on Div 1. However, even taking account of all of that, the manager and the team pulled together and came through when it mattered.

After the loss to Stirling there were many who thought 'here we go again'. There was no end of talk about bottle, and just about everyone, myself included started to have doubts. It would have been all to easy for JM and the team to hide after the Stirling result and in previous seasons we had plenty of examples of that happening, but no. The guys dug deep and delivered convincing wins against Forfar, Cowden, Brechin and Forfar to virtually secure the championship. Those wins broke Stirlings back as can be seen from their recent results.

Frankly I don't give a f*** what happened at Raith or on Saturday and I do not see those results in anyway negate the 30+ games that went before. We set out this season to win the league and we succeeded. Only 3 other teams in Scotland can say that and despite the lack of perfection it is an achievement the fans, the team and the manager should be proud of.

By all means carry on your anti-Dougie campaign MJ but don't pretend that your motivation is any more than venting your oversized spleen.

There is nothing splenic about my opinion-I'm grateful to Shoogly in the same way as I am to my parents for helping me through the helpless years. Fortunately my parents had the good sense to know when their job was done. If Shoogly could do the same, I'd have no problem with him.
mortonjag 2007-04-24 06:36:24
QUOTE(bigstu22 @ Apr 23 2007, 11:47 PM) [snapback]261246[/snapback]
It's a very sad day when this thread seems to overshadow the 'Congratulations' thread. MJ has indeed succeeded in sucking us all into his pathetic ramblings. Last time for me, he's on 'ignore' now. Perhaps some others may want to follow suit....

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mortonjag 2007-04-24 06:39:48
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 24 2007, 12:53 AM) [snapback]261268[/snapback]
A valid point , and it is not just about the diehards and I'm Morton's number 1 fan , bollox . There isin't enough of us so your point is relevant not so long ago we were all argueing about DDFR wanting us to kidnap more people to the game . Saturday was the ideal chance and maybe we can be thankful that the weather wasn't great or we would have had more people in that thought the same .
We need alot of good PR over the summer to create a buzz before the season kicks off .

Well Sir, you know who our PR man is!!! dry.gif

One 'class' signing would definitely pull in the crowds at the start of the season-after that it would just depend....
mortonjag 2007-04-24 06:42:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 24 2007, 06:12 AM) [snapback]261287[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

how very disappointing, mate.

I was expecting you to let us know that McInally is to replace Strachan when he moves back to Sassenach Land.

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One more season for that to happen, NewTon!
mortonjag 2007-04-24 10:25:13
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Apr 24 2007, 09:59 AM) [snapback]261326[/snapback]
You as a clinical man should know what conclusions that others will come to when you start answering yourself. wink.gif biggrin.gif

Hugh Scott, Manchesterton, and Mortonjag-why don't you add Batman and Super Nanny? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-24 10:27:02
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Apr 24 2007, 10:25 AM) [snapback]261343[/snapback]
One out, one in. rolleyes.gif

Circus antics, pot and kettle.

Yer computer's slow!
mortonjag 2007-04-24 10:28:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 24 2007, 07:11 AM) [snapback]261296[/snapback]
Come on Mortonjag, that is over the top, mate.

A great crowd of 5255 last Saturday

are you saying it contained 2,628 idiots ?

I suggest a retraction is appropriate, mate.

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Are you serious-did you REALLY think I was? huh.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-24 10:30:27
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Apr 24 2007, 10:26 AM) [snapback]261344[/snapback]
It usuaally is as soon as MJ comes on here laugh.gif the human feelgood vacume..... I actually think he`s the anti excitement polis!!! "Here you nae fcukin enjoyin yersel ower er, ye hear?

I wonder if we were to wear Gray as our home strip next season, would that cheer him up? If there is such a possibilty?

For the 1st time in 4 years we`re out of the 2nd division, and for the 1st time in fckin 6 years we`re back in the 1st division, now mibies some o` you out there arent too happy with the past 2 results, but look at the bigger picture, we are out of that sh1ty league...the lads have more than deserved it for putting up with the inanecrap this league has had to offer over the years, drivolous p1sh spouted by folk at scappa with venom, Remember the t*** shoutin at Greacean?. Folk who seem to forget that this team are out there bustin there balls for this town as well as themselves.

Basically, if they cant enjoy the fact that we have won this league, they should FCUK right off else where.
Moneyton , myself and a few otheres did exactly that on saturday night...got stuck right into the feelgood mood, plenty o swally.....the way a league winning atmosphere should be. If you cannae enjoy the fact that the ton are promoted 1st thing I suggest you do is go fek off and buy yourself a life, if you cant be arsed doin that then fek off all together.

Now sour dour faced knobjockies are gonna ruin the party for me.......let it continue till the 1st game of the 07/08 campaign...... cool.gif

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mortonjag 2007-04-24 10:33:28
QUOTE(nach0king @ Apr 24 2007, 10:14 AM) [snapback]261331[/snapback]
There are probably few comments because it's a bit of a non-story, really.

SOMEBODY understood me for once!!!!!!! cool.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-24 10:36:14
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Apr 24 2007, 10:32 AM) [snapback]261350[/snapback]
Who the feck is Super Nanny unsure.gif Maybe I don't watch enough weans programmes.

Only one I know Super Gran but Batman's quite good.

Maybe you just have your todger rammed soo far up MT's arse that he speaks the same s***e that you belt out.
Its coming from the same songsheet.
Clever skunks in disguise is a good shout from another poster, it would explain a lot.
BTW, my computer is fast enough jag, but it depends which one i'm using. rolleyes.gif

Are you telling me you've forgotten good old soupy f*nny-we used to fight like cat and dog on here 'til I-erm-SHE gave up in disgust! blink.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-24 10:45:22 Congratulations to all involved in our successful season. I have never doubted the genuine efforts of all and sundry. Well done.
mortonjag 2007-04-24 11:36:04
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Apr 24 2007, 10:41 AM) [snapback]261360[/snapback]
Yes he did and so did everyone else because you were being serious.

You do this every time you get pulled up for being abusive, rude or out of order. Its pathetic, like a 8 year old being caught doing something bad.- " Awww, I wasn't being serious. I dint mean it,...honest"

You're an embarrassment to yourself you pathetic old fool.

Your palpable paranoia is just that-run back to Mummy for a cuddle little chappie. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-24 11:38:02
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Apr 24 2007, 10:49 AM) [snapback]261366[/snapback]
St mirren weren't playing in kirkaldy. dry.gif
You're a c*** !

apologies for that, guess im just one of these uneducated idiots that support morton ! dry.gif

No need for apologies-it takes one to know one. I'm proud to be a c*nt if it irritates little boys at their slever smeared keyboards! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-24 11:46:14
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Apr 24 2007, 10:51 AM) [snapback]261367[/snapback]
The above was not written by a Morton fan. Someone who cares about the club who felt the hurt of the last 4 years and suffered the Hugh Scott era before that, could not have typed those words. To a man the 3000 fans (1500 of whom in MJ's opinion are idiots) knew we had not lost a game in one day but won a league over the season. Yes there were mixed emotions about losing the game but real supporters of Morton Football Club, supporters who've been there through the bad times, felt nothing but joy that day.

Go away MortonJag, you silly little man, your time is up on here.-You're Done!

For 'joy', I suggest you substitute the word 'relief'. I've spoken to several of our older supporters and shared pm's since that game, and I can assure you that many of us GENUINE LIFELONG TON SUPPORTERS had a feeling of hollowness, almost of sadness, that we stumbled at that final hurdle. If we had 'reamed Raith up the arse', I would indeed have been overjoyed.

Incidentally, I've asked you before and you always decline to answer. Why do you think your opinions are shared by everybody else? Mine certainly are not, and I'm damned glad of the diversity.
mortonjag 2007-04-24 11:49:07
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Apr 24 2007, 11:41 AM) [snapback]261402[/snapback]
As opposed to old men at their dribbled doused keyboards. smile.gif

Dribbling is physiologically acceptable in one's dotage-slevering, on the other hand frequently has pathological significance. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-24 11:51:01
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Apr 24 2007, 11:41 AM) [snapback]261403[/snapback]
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Aaaahhhhh, Blissss !! smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

Off they pop, but they can't resist keeking back round the corner to see if anybody noticed-'ignores' are cop outs chaps.
mortonjag 2007-04-24 12:30:37
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 24 2007, 11:59 AM) [snapback]261415[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2007-04-24 12:34:13
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Apr 24 2007, 12:19 PM) [snapback]261424[/snapback]
I will take ones word for it.

Onesh word ish correct I asshure you shir. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-24 12:36:10
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 24 2007, 12:23 PM) [snapback]261427[/snapback]
A great crowd of 5255 last Saturday

are you saying it contained 2,628 idiots ?
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oops, I made an arithmetical error.

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5255 minus mortonjag = 5254

50% = 2,627

therefore most = at least 2,628

oops - did I just prove that mortonjag is one of the idiots ?

I sincerely hope not.

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Mortonjag has indeed committed many idiotic acts! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-24 12:43:52
QUOTE(gmfc_stinny_gmfc @ Apr 24 2007, 12:35 PM) [snapback]261433[/snapback]
Orighty Ton fans, this is my first time on this site.. i felt i had to come on and ask you lot if you have heard anything relating to who Morton will be going for in the transfer window. Lastnight i heard that a daft story that Neil Lennon was going to join Morton as a player/coach at the end of the season..... anyone else heard these rumours? i know years ago there used to be alot of old celtic players joining morton late on in there career but i cant honestly see Neil Lennon coming to Morton .. he will have other things lined up down south i think.

Lennon's coming as joint player coach (Ferguson's coming as well to keep it politically correct), McInally's to become Director of football, and Martin Clark will be heading up the new 'Fit for life' programme, aimed at the over 40's (round the waist).

Shoogly will don the Cappie suit to save expenditure, but I confess that has come from a less reliable source.
mortonjag 2007-04-24 12:51:30
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 24 2007, 12:38 PM) [snapback]261436[/snapback]

F*ckin Blair to blame again-poor c*nt was probably knocked back by the NHS for a sex change, and decided to take it out on the public. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-24 13:18:36 Misprint from the London Times

'Dick amputates his own pole'.
mortonjag 2007-04-25 06:35:05 The amputee now states he got it all wrong-it was extremely warm in the restaurant, he claims, and he was simply trying to take off his pullover.
mortonjag 2007-04-25 06:41:48
QUOTE(axeman @ Apr 24 2007, 06:25 PM) [snapback]261648[/snapback]
If you say so wink.gif

Funny it looked exactly like the guy who was driving the Saab with the personalised numberplate on the way in to Kirkcaldy. Sat fizzing during the game with his brother/pal & then cleared out at full-time.

But if you say it wasn't you, fair play to you, I'll believe you.
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Describe the Saab and number plate if you're not 'at it'.

I was there with my brother, my partner, and the monkey, and I assure you we left with the bulk of the Ton fans. I still think you're being a bad boy! There is no way you can miss my motor but I'm not giving the secret out.
mortonjag 2007-04-25 06:51:41
QUOTE(piehutt @ Apr 24 2007, 01:34 PM) [snapback]261469[/snapback]
Well said Al.

Best ever points haul as well.

Mortonjag really is on the wind-up.

If you think I'm at the 'wind up', why do you agree with the poster when he says I should go and support somebody else, or do 'wind ups' now fall into the same category as daring to question anything at Cappielow?

This was no 'wind up'-I meant every word I wrote, and personal abuse will never discourage me.

The English language suffers from a paucity of obscenities. C*NT seems to be the worst anyone can call me. C'mon folks let's have some neological banter, you shower of creTONs.
mortonjag 2007-04-25 07:08:36
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Apr 25 2007, 02:54 AM) [snapback]261926[/snapback]
Mathers has made a few decent saves. You are either exaggerating or haven't been to any games since the Kilmarnock match.

I think people are a bit harsh on Mathers. I think he did fine for us in the run in and helped us secure the title with a few decent saves. I agree he was slow to react and could have done better with some shots but all in all I think he was a decent signing by McInally.

In saying all of that I would like us to sign a better keeper for next season. laugh.gif

Couldn't agree more, and I fail to see the point in suggesting any goalie's 'past it' at Paul's age. Lev Yashin was still playing Ist team football 'til he was 41, and there are plenty of other examples. Ronnie Simpson springs to mind in the Scottish game.

I suppose it was inevitable that fans would feel sorry for Davie McG-as I did-but Mathers has been selected by the Managers as the division's best goalie, and they are the guys he's been playing against.

If we're going to move on, we need at least two decent keepers in our squad, and although neither Paul nor Davie might be the best in division 1, they are both competent.
mortonjag 2007-04-25 07:19:31
QUOTE(Mick @ Apr 24 2007, 11:24 PM) [snapback]261870[/snapback]
I'll refer to the above posts from BriggsTon, LCM and most importantly, Stuart.
His attitude at times was appalling - I remember the Partick (A) match vividly. He had a fantastic chance to help a very young squad on to great things by setting an example and by playing the way that he could 100% of the time. Unfortunately he didn't set a good example, and rarely played the way he could - regardless of where he was being played by JMcI.

I'm pleased that he's pleased we won the league - but he's defo no hero in my eyes.

AyrAndy, good point. Accepted you helped us out by beating Stirling (let's face it someone had to beat those persistent fcukers), but as you have correctly pointed out we won the league (fairly and squarely) over the season. So, enough of this nonsense about cheering Ayr / Jerome Vareille.

We did it ourselves - lets celebrate that rather than giving the credit to others!

His attitude was at times appalling-agreed-but from what Ayr Andy says, he is now giving Ayr what he gave us when he came at first. I've said repeatedly that if we'd only got him two or three games earlier, we'd have been promoted THAT season.

Some of you must remember the evening away game at Alloa near the season's end, when we dropped two crucial points. Andy was getting dog's abuse from the opposition fans, but for the last half hour he took the game by the scruff of the neck and tortured the Wasps defence. Only bad luck, and full time prevented us bagging those extra two points.

What happened last season I don't know-he's a volatile character, and at times his own worst enemy, but he DOES play with his heart on his sleeve, and I, for one, look forward to seeing him play at Ayr.
mortonjag 2007-04-25 07:34:52 Potentially we could be upsides teams like Killie, and 'Well. Only the OF and city sides have more potential, as has been demonstrated by our crowds for attractive matches, and we have a history of reasonable success in the old Premier League as part timers.

Let's get rid of the idea that we're 'just a small provincial club'.

Now after those comments which will rapidly be transmuted to negativity by our resident professors of football, here's the nub.

I believe it's entirely down to DDFR. He's not getting younger and he genuinely wants the SPL, but so far he seems unwilling to hand over the running of 'his' club to anybody else, and in the press recently he's been quite defensive of that stance.

Does anybody agree with the proposition that he would gain, rather than lose credibility, by retaining total financial control, and delegating EVERYTHING else to experienced employees. I'm certain we can gain promotion in one season if we go about it sensibly, and a helluva lot is in place already (much of it thanks to Dougie).

One experienced salaried director of football, three or four judicious signings, and we're just about there IMO.

I'd even be willing to give JM a shot at it, given those other factors were sorted, as I've little doubt he's been hampered all along the way by 'interference' from on high, and let's face it, if he didn't produce he would be replaced by a level headed executive.
mortonjag 2007-04-25 07:39:33
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 25 2007, 07:04 AM) [snapback]261945[/snapback]
Is there a doctor on these boards who can confirm that reattaching a penis is a lot easier than that poor bloody vet in Taiwan who had his arm reattached, after it was ripped off by a croc ??

Depends what you want it to do once it's stuck back on! sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-25 07:41:55
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 25 2007, 07:39 AM) [snapback]261949[/snapback]

I believe it's entirely down to DDFR. He's not getting younger and he genuinely wants the SPL, but so far he seems unwilling to hand over the running of 'his' club to anybody else, and in the press recently he's been quite defensive of that stance.

Gidday mortonjag,

You are the one who regularly describes DDFR as an autocrat.

Autocrats ain't too good at delegation.

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Morton's problems encapsulated in six words!
mortonjag 2007-04-25 08:56:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 25 2007, 07:44 AM) [snapback]261952[/snapback]
the willie or the arm ???

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Either!

It's re-attaching nerve tissue that's the tricky bit-let's face it a 'Willie's just a hosepipe in its most rudimentary function, whereas an arm contains a huge network of anatomical structures.

Different matter altogether if you want to restore full sensation and erectile function to yer old tadger after lopping it off, though!
mortonjag 2007-04-25 09:05:23
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 25 2007, 08:55 AM) [snapback]261965[/snapback]
I've not read the whole thread but I think it would be nice to show McLaren a bit of appreciation before and after the game, I have a lot of respect for him both as a player and a man.
I also think there is also to much of the attitude that footballers are fair game, especially ex-players at your club.

I agree midTONs, and it's just another symptom of the blinkered euphoria which seems to affect many of our posters. Everything about us is seen as wonderful, yet the minute a professional man starts to earn a crust elsewhere he's history.
mortonjag 2007-04-25 09:09:35
QUOTE(scotia morton @ Apr 25 2007, 01:44 AM) [snapback]261914[/snapback]
Anyone think it would be a good idea for all the cars buses heading for Ayr on saturday to all head down the coast in one great big convoy! All following behind the Albert's open top bus with flags, scarves, banners etc all hanging out windows etc! Would certainly be a sight to see as it weaves its way down the coast!

Thoughts please?

Nice idea if you could trust folk to obey the highway code, but it's a potential disaster in terms of congestion, and hampering legitimate business and emergency vehicles. The police would stop it before it even got started.
mortonjag 2007-04-25 09:19:57
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Apr 25 2007, 09:04 AM) [snapback]261974[/snapback]
You should drive my new car: A 2006 Dodge Charger R/T, 5.7L V8*** with 350 HP.
***The V8 is a multi-dimensional engine that switched to a V4 when the V8 isn't needed (i.e. sustained speeds and in town). It does, however, suck down some gas when I'm driving 120-140 MPH on the Autobahn. smile.gif

Dodge Charger (from Dodge.com)

Dodge Charger review (from Allpar.com)

Thank your lucky stars you've got autobahns-beasties like that are a total waste of time and money over here Trick.

I'm averaging only 26mpg in my Saab, yet I'm not allowed to exceed 70m.p.h. in a motor capable of well over twice that speed!
mortonjag 2007-04-25 09:24:08
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Apr 25 2007, 09:17 AM) [snapback]261983[/snapback]
You, if you were from the deep south, that would equate to one person whom you were at the game with....but we know better... tongue.gif cool.gif

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Well at least I put his wee fotie in the avator for clarification. He's totally pissed off with DDFR who keeps going on about us 'Getting the monkey off our backs' too!
mortonjag 2007-04-25 10:11:29
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 25 2007, 10:02 AM) [snapback]262003[/snapback]
Just so long as they don't attach the willie to the arm and vice versa...............although!

mmm-'Hands up all those who like Miss Brown as their Teacher' could prove 'ripping' fun, but the writing might improve with the designer pencil holder, and its inbuilt case.
mortonjag 2007-04-25 10:13:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 25 2007, 09:34 AM) [snapback]261992[/snapback]
I was passed my several Saabs doing more than 70 mph on my way to Alibi's wedding last year.

I presume that you were not one of them.

Or were you in a Saab semi trailer ??

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I said I'm not allowed to exceed 70 m.p.h. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-25 10:19:56
QUOTE(Edinton @ Apr 25 2007, 10:12 AM) [snapback]262007[/snapback]
Wait, did you just describe Somerset Park as 'elegant'!? ohmy.gif

'Ancient', 'delapidated', possibly even quaint, but then maybe Andy's an estate agent! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-25 10:29:04
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Apr 25 2007, 10:17 AM) [snapback]262011[/snapback]
Alright mofos, I feel like talking literature for a bit.

What are we all reading at present?

I've been reading a lot of Charles Bukowski [the handsome fellow in my avatar] - there's a great lack of information in his story-telling that makes it feel like you're sitting talking to him in the pub. If you want to get into him, I'd recommend his novel "Ham on Rye".

You've embarrassed him I guess-he's off!
mortonjag 2007-04-25 10:38:42
QUOTE(Cawston @ Apr 25 2007, 10:21 AM) [snapback]262016[/snapback]
Another Mortonjug 'Stating the bleeding obvious' exclusive.

You heard it here first folks! (well if you didn't read any other single post on the board for the past few months).

PS. Would that be the same bland squad who you claim will do ok in next seasons first division without strengthening?

Oh dear, never let the contradictions get in the way of the attention seeking tongue.gif

Nice to hear that you actually agree with me-it may be 'stating the obvious' to you, but is certainly isn't for many.

We've just struggled through a weary season, but came out winners. We'd get a chance to play more football in division one, and this same 'bland' squad' WOULD do 'OK' in my opinion.

Where did I say they were about to set the heather on fire? As always you home in on the one post which you think suits your purpose. I've stated elsewhere that we need strengthening-DESPITE that being another example of 'stating the obvious'!

You can say I'm attention seeking if you like-maybe if some folks would pay more attention they'd start thinking, instead of automatically dreaming up attempts to trip me up every time I post.
mortonjag 2007-04-25 10:58:55
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 25 2007, 10:39 AM) [snapback]262028[/snapback]
Super Hydraulic Instantaneous Transporter.
? ? ? ?
sounds like crap to me.

That's the 'Current regulating amperage processor'...

...sold along with the 'Current unit notation transmitter', and for an extra few bob you get the 'Automated rheostat sensitivity evaluator', the 'Battery actuated laser limiting sensor', and the 'Current operated cabin kryometer'.
mortonjag 2007-04-25 11:15:14
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Apr 25 2007, 11:05 AM) [snapback]262035[/snapback]
I like the sound of this. Let's go the whole hog. An advance party of two or three hundred should visibly camp on the outskirts of Ayr just to put the wind up the locals. Then, at dawn, the main body of the support should sweep into town in a 'bull horns' pincer movement - the vehicles moving into town first followed by the people on foot. Very quickly we should have Somerset Park fully encircled. We could then do one of the chants from Zulu while waving 1,000 League Champions flags before popping into town to get something to eat to avoid having to pay loads of cash for crap food in the ground....

...and then get beat again! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-25 11:20:50
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Apr 25 2007, 11:04 AM) [snapback]262034[/snapback]
huh.gif batteries included?

Yes, but for the last two...Batteries optional on both sets!
mortonjag 2007-04-25 11:27:44
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Apr 25 2007, 10:53 AM) [snapback]262032[/snapback]
You're correct, MortonJag. However, if I were still in the States and I had bought the Charger, I would've gone with the 3.5L V6 (250 HP). It's all I would need there. Incidentally, I bought the "Baby Hemi" (as they say) as I could've bought the 6.1L V8 with 425 HP. However, unlike the 5.7L, the 6.1 is a "straight 8," which won't shift down to a V4 when I don't need it. smile.gif

Here's some comparison for you: In the city and on the Autobahn when I'm in a "speed limit zone," I get about 22-24 MPG. However, when I'm going "fast," I'm getting about 14-16 MPG.

The car has a 19 gallon (72 liter) tank, too.

That's not too bad-relatively speaking of course. I had a V8 Merc 500, which just guzzled juice about town, and I struggled to get 25 m.p.g doing about 75m.p.h in cruise control over motorway journeys.

The Saab's a 2.8 V6 turbo, upgraded to 275 b.h.p., and it's really flexible-faster than a Porsche Boxter and most TT's, but as docile as a kitten when I want-AND it seats four!
mortonjag 2007-04-25 11:43:18
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Apr 25 2007, 11:37 AM) [snapback]262048[/snapback]
I actually don't drive the Charger around town, or to and from work. It's mainly for long trips and the like. For the local area and to and from work I drive my old trusty 1994 Dodge Intrepid, with the 3.3L V6 (161 HP). It also has close to 166,000 miles on it, but it's starting to show its age now.

Still can't beat a 'V' engine!
Did you know Saab are now owned by General Motors?
mortonjag 2007-04-25 11:48:11
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Apr 25 2007, 11:41 AM) [snapback]262050[/snapback]
McGurn
Walker McGregor Gilbride
Black Keenan Millar Weatherson Russel
Linn Graham

Subs McGowan Harding Stevenson Finlayson Mathers

Decent mix of experience and youth in there i feel - McGregor to help the back 3 and Weatherson Millar and Keenan in the middle. Plus i'm sure we'll see McGowan for the last half an hour to give him a proper send off.

I wouldn't argue with that side, but I don't think the actual selection matters as much as juggling things about, and letting the hungry 'fringe' players get a wee shot. If that happens we should put on a good show.
mortonjag 2007-04-25 12:14:05
QUOTE(Toby @ Apr 25 2007, 11:57 AM) [snapback]262057[/snapback]
Greacen in the team of the year??????????

I must admit that surprised me at first, but they obviously take more than one thing into consideration. For example I have no problem whatsoever with Russell getting the award-he's got it presumably for his overall contribution to Brechin's season, and I guess Stu deserves his selection for the same reason, albeit with us.
mortonjag 2007-04-25 12:27:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 25 2007, 08:15 AM) [snapback]261955[/snapback]
A Brazilian defender was booked for kissing the referee during a match at the weekend.

Television pictures showed Cabofriense defender Cleberson giving referee Ubiraci Damasio a peck on the cheek after having a foul awarded against him during a 3-1 defeat by Botafogo at the Maracana.

The two were initially involved in a friendly exchange but the referee's mood quickly changed as he pulled out a yellow card and could be seen to say: "You can't kiss me."

"I didn't know it was against the rules," said Cleberson afterwards.
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That's an interesting one-what was he guilty of in the rule book?

Making DELIBERATE physical contact with an official is the only thing I can imagine, or was it offensive behaviour, or bringing the game into disrepute-no doubt somebody will tell us.

Incidentally, there is no truth I'm told, in the rumour that Mark Yardley and Colin Hardie once had a wee 'fling', and even less in the report that at the time, the Police charged the Ref with having an offensive person on his weapon.
mortonjag 2007-04-25 13:06:58
QUOTE(Toby @ Apr 25 2007, 12:53 PM) [snapback]262070[/snapback]
Contribution? The guy's an absolute bombscare. If Brechin don't go up this season I'd imagine Russell will miss Greacen. How a captain can watch his line when he's standing behind it I'll never know and the amount of times he was caught out with high balls launched up the park into the midddle of our defence beggars belief.

The point I was trying to make is that I DON'T think those awards are just for pure footballing talent-that's why so many of our posters are miffed that Spoonsy didn't get it-but other factors must be taken into consideration too.
I don't think Stu's the most talented in our squad by a long chalk, but he had an unenviable task all season trying to make things work on the pitch, and full credit to the guy, he stuck by his players throughout. Have you forgotten he also scored a screamer in the recent away match at Brechin-a match which many seem to thing was pivotal for our ultimate success?
mortonjag 2007-04-25 13:14:43
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Apr 25 2007, 01:05 PM) [snapback]262074[/snapback]
OK here goes, as one of the merry band of referees. Sounds like the referee got it half right on Saturday. If the player deliberately used a "trick" to circumvent the spirit of the pass back rule as covered by Law12, not only should the referee have awarded an indirect free kick from the spot where the offence occured, he should also have administered a caution for unsporting behaviour.

This is not covered specifically in the rules, but in the Decisions Of The International Board, which are an addendum to the rules and need to be known and understood by all referees. I just wish some players would learn some of the rules of the game they're playing - would make my job so much easier !

Anyway, for those of you bored enough to read it, the actual FIFA wording is down below...... just for your own reference - this is NOT open to interpretation by a referee - these are directions and rules of FIFA - so I would imagine the referee was deducted at LEAST half a point in his post match assessment by the FIFA assessor for this oversight.

Decision 3
Subject to the terms of Law 12 , a player may pass the ball to his own goalkeeper using his head or chest or knee. If, however, in the opinion of the referee, a player uses a deliberate trick while the ball is in play in order to circumvent the Law, the player is guilty of unsporting behaviour. He is cautioned, shown the yellow card and an indirect free kick is awarded to the opposing team from the place where the infringement occurred.

Yours pedantically

TonInDublin

ps edited to add that I have no idea whether the Stranny one was a free kick, Just pointing out that having awarded the free kick the yellow card is not optional !

When they say 'head, chest, or knee' and talk about tricks what DO they mean?

Do they mean the whole body down to the knees apart obviously from the arms-can you turn round and skilfully arse the ball back to the goalie, making it obvious it's not a learned trick, but just what you normally do once in a while. I'm more confused than ever!
mortonjag 2007-04-26 05:30:36
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Apr 25 2007, 02:34 PM) [snapback]262125[/snapback]
Yes I did..... Then again, it's just a "Saab" story to me. laugh.gif

I'll get my coat (not that I need it with 27C weather here).

We're in for a heatwave too, going on the five day forecast.
mortonjag 2007-04-26 05:31:44
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 25 2007, 02:59 PM) [snapback]262135[/snapback]
i get 61 miles to the gallon in my car. the only drawback is finding the space for my massive dick.

Buy a soft top-oh and keep your eye out for those 'low bridge' warning signs. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-26 05:40:54
QUOTE(moneyton @ Apr 25 2007, 04:20 PM) [snapback]262181[/snapback]
MJ being optimistic as ever..

Go jump in the clyde you sour faced git!!!!!!!!

You were the one who jumped in there! cool.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-26 05:51:26
QUOTE(axeman @ Apr 25 2007, 04:51 PM) [snapback]262206[/snapback]
Surprised you want me to give your car details to everyone, but anyway metallic blue 10EN ring a bell Ernest ?

Thought it was funny you had to slam the anchors on when you saw the cops had pulled in those lorries at the layby just outside Lochgelly.

It's easy enough for you to prove you were still there anyway, Tontastic has a vast array of crowd shots that surely you can pick yourself out in & link to on here.

Tell me something then smart arse. Did you spot this vehicle you allege is mine on the way to or from the game. It seems to me that you can't be two places at the one time.

I assume you've sussed my reason for asking-AND for describing you as a 'smart arse'. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-26 05:57:31
QUOTE(Cawston @ Apr 25 2007, 08:43 PM) [snapback]262294[/snapback]
Ha ha dream of ways to trip you up..dream on matey. You're more than capable of doing that all on your lonesome, most days it appears you only open your mouth to change foot wink.gif

We're a second division outfit going up a league, are you honestly trying to pass off suggesting we need to strengthen as revolutionary thought?

As always you flatter yourself.

Too busy trying to rubbish me to even read this time-I said I was stating the obvious. Why don't YOU think up some new way of slagging me off-you're becoming a bore, and that's MY job. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-26 06:46:00
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Apr 22 2007, 08:16 AM) [snapback]260269[/snapback]
I've been lying low for the last wee while-finally sickened by those who are easily pleased.

Nobody, it seems, is allowed to criticise anything. Our championship status provides the necessary 'street cred' for those weans who imagine that all is well at Scapa-anybody who dares to think otherwise is wrong.

Do you all REALLY believe that in your inner hearts? I wonder.

Yesterday was another farce IMO. On the day we'd all been waiting for, we yet again failed to beat a team struggling in the basement, but it didn't seem to matter to most. Well I was frankly sickened by the whole debacle-a cheapskate DJ, some weans in dance suits, a totally naff 'penalty shoot out', and another £14 down the drain.

If we lose at Ayr, our Champions will have taken one point from their last nine. I imagined that yesterday would have been the day to blood some of our fringe players-it would have shown some forward thinking, and they would not have been jaded, but as usual, the singular lack of imagination prevailed.

I'm afraid folks that if this is good enough for you lot, it ain't for me. I remember so well our first game after we won the third division-we were expecting great things but 'blew it' at Berwick.

I guarantee that if nothing changes radically over the closed season in terms of our 'hands on' chairman, little improved manager, and bland squad, it's just going to be much of the same old frustration next season.

THAT is what I said, for those who can't be bothered reading the thread.

It is NOT what Cawston has interpreted as my simply saying we need to strengthen the squad.

I've stated elsewhere that 'Shoogly' should get his nose right out of the playing side, and appoint an executive-that has been largely ignored, as has my opinion that JM is little improved, though I believe his freedom has been constrained by 'the boss' breathing down his neck. I've stated that the current squad would do 'OK' up one level, but would not set the heather on fire, and that three or four judicious signings could give us a promotion challenging squad.

I meant every word, and nothing was supposed to be, nor do I believe IS negative.

Far from thinking-as has been suggested-that I genuinely regard my fellow fans as 'idiots', it's beginning to dawn on me that I've probably been crediting them with too much intelligence. It's becoming painfully obvious that only a small percentage is capable of, and/or willing to indulge in a healthy argument, rather than following like sheep, or attempting to rubbish other posters' opinions just for the sake of it.

Let's face it, if I start yet another of those bloody polls, asking if DDFR should step aside gracefully, I'll be yet again branded a 'trouble maker'.

Can NONE of you see that he rules everything with an iron fist, or that JM's persona and his appointment by Shoogly are no coincidence?

If you read through a season's worth of his programme notes, and set them alongside the manager's, you'll be in no doubt about who's really been 'calling the shots'.

By all means give Jim another go at it-ON HIS OWN-he's still got a lot to learn, but he'd have half a chance if he was given enough room to 'swing a cat'.

Just one final point directed at those who claim I 'laid low' after our successes against St Johnstone, Killie, etc. LIARS.

Check my posts before you open your mouths next time to decant your puerile, faeculent filth.

I have been one of those most consistent in praising our boys over the course of the season. What I have consistently bemoaned is their lack of 'killer instinct', and 'street wisdom', and all last 'closed season' I was pleading for some experience to be brought in.

Everything I've just written, I mean, and sincerely believe. I worked to very high standards, and had to be accountable for my actions. Rightly or wrongly, I expect that of others-especially those in positions of privileged power like DDFR. He HAS to wake up to the fact that he is now holding us back, or it WILL just be much of the same IMO.
mortonjag 2007-04-26 06:59:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 26 2007, 06:55 AM) [snapback]262421[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

the above all makes sense to me.

However, why not accept that DDFR is a fact of life ??

He has been reported as saying that he has rejected 2 offers for the Ton in recent months.

So, there's a reasonable possibility that he will be "pulling the strings" for another decade or so.

mortonjag, just be thankful that he is not a back seat driver in your Saab, mate.
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Seriously though, I'm only asking him to take a 'back seat' and enjoy his success as others move things forward. He doesn't have to sell out-simply delegate efficiently.
mortonjag 2007-04-26 07:06:12
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 26 2007, 06:23 AM) [snapback]262416[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

As you seem to post on here each day before 6am your time, may I ask a rather personal question ?

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Do you have your morning coffee and/or perform your morning ablutions before or after you log in ?

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I hate coffee almost as much as I abhor cleanliness! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-26 07:48:25
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 26 2007, 07:15 AM) [snapback]262425[/snapback]
simply delegate efficiently.
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simply delegate efficiently and DDFR is the same sentence ??

He wasn't happy delegating his role as milk monitor at Greenock Academy in 1937.

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Have 70 years changed anything ?

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Milk bottles!
mortonjag 2007-04-26 07:52:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 26 2007, 06:28 AM) [snapback]262417[/snapback]
Is there still a rather low bridge on the old road to Glasgow, east of Langbank towards Bishopton.

Lots of lorries got stuck under it in the 1960s.

I wonder if their drivers had the same challenge as Manky ?

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The bridge still takes the old A8 under the railway-as you may recall, on a sharp bend. It's a challenge for high, AND long vehicles. Guess poor Manky has to use the new M8 motorway alongside the river, even when he's not an upstanding Ton supporter!
mortonjag 2007-04-26 09:02:53
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Apr 24 2007, 10:16 PM) [snapback]261836[/snapback]
Amongst his recent pronouncements, MortonJag announced that people who could not agree with his low opinion of the Chairman and the manager and how Morton were run were "either too stupid to see it or too wet behind the ears"

Now, I am one of those who sees some issues with the management but I certainly do not share his ultra negative opinion of them. Ergo, according to MJ I am stupid. I regard that as grossly insulting and so if he takes a bit of vitriol in return, I am not sure that he or any of his apologists can expect anything else.

Good morning Sir-I missed that wee post, but of course am now compelled to reply.

To clarify what I said, I've set out my opinion as clearly as possible in the 'not good enough' thread this morning.

I believe that anyone who disagrees with the main thrust of what IS only my opinion, may be slightly intellectually challenged or naive, but since that is also a mere opinion, I'm surprised to hear it described as 'grossly insulting', though in some cases it might just be true!

Oversensitivity does not become a senior forum member. wink.gif

Vitriol is welcome in abundance, as are fun, sarcasm, wit, and plain honesty.

mortonjag 2007-04-26 10:25:30
QUOTE(Cawston @ Apr 26 2007, 10:01 AM) [snapback]262452[/snapback]
Exactly what everyone else has said, what makes you special? Yet when others say it it's laughed off as ludicrous.
Oh dear.. how would the board survive without this stunning level of debate.
Just like your "Wee Ryan Russell works his cotton socks off all week but the big bad man disnae like him" your exaggerating the reality of the situation.
I agree that on the face of it there's been to much interference at times in the past, but you know..liars, filth.. what's the point?
Of course you did, you've done it all season. No point in re-writing history now.

Frankly I'm surprised that you've come back on this Cawston-if you are simply goading me that's fine but it's well disguised.

Otherwise this last offering won't do!

Firstly, not EVERYONE else has said ANYTHING. That should be obvious-if everybody said the same thing discussion would be dead.

Your second (sarcastic) comment is acknowledged as just that-the 'lowest form of wit'.

The point of 'LIARS' was to alert other posters to the lies. I am not attempting to rewrite history, and if you want to prove me wrong, you'll have to bribe the moderator to delete my post match comments. FFS, I even recall being commended by some of my 'opponents' on the JM issue for my comments after the Killie game, and I clearly remember praising the boys after the St. Johnstone match, while pointing out that we had almost let them back in.

The reason I 'lay low' recently was just as I stated-I have NEVER done it before. If, as I suggested, you are just goading-fine-and admit it. If not, you ARE A DELIBERATE LIAR in your feeble attempt to discredit opinions which upset you. That is a statement of what I believe to be fact (which you are welcome to disprove), and NOT intended as a personal insult.

mortonjag 2007-04-26 11:47:21
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Apr 26 2007, 11:19 AM) [snapback]262488[/snapback]
The many sides to this wonderful personality that dominates our club's forum.

The Charming MortonJag:-
The Honest Mortjag:-

The Peculiar MortonJag:-
The Joyous Mortonjag:-

The Knowledgable MortonJag:-
The Tactical MortonJag:-

The Friendly MortonJag:-
The Hilarious MortonJag:-

The Charismatic MortonJag:-
Dont ya just love him!

You missed the Perceptive 'Jag', Pertussis:

'Those who don't learn from history are condemned to relive it'....BUT....no doubt somebody will contradict that one too within the next half hour, thereby confirming its accuracy! laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2007-04-27 05:15:34
QUOTE(axeman @ Apr 26 2007, 04:46 PM) [snapback]262643[/snapback]
Now, now Ernest resorting to insults that just isn't on. Tsk, Tsk.

Naturally it was going to Kirkcaldy, that was how we passed that police check on our left in the layby.

As for smart arse, is there a fondness of arse in your family ?

As I've said I'm sure Tontastic's site will help you out.

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It wasn't intended to be an insult!

I just wondered how your claim to have seen some vehicle you believe is mine could possibly bolster your equally spurious claim that I left the game at the whistle, and off course you've made yourself look more daft by admitting your 'vision' was ON THE WAY to the match!

Anyway-does it really matter-I'd gladly have left at the final whistle-it just so happens I didn't.

Our family are unashamed of their arses. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-27 05:27:33
QUOTE(Wanafff @ Apr 26 2007, 12:19 PM) [snapback]262507[/snapback]
Real Hoops - good summary. Like it.

MortonJag, I don't agree with you, and whilst you are entitled to your opinion, you have had your say. We know your opinion. Now disappear. You are boring. Let the fans enjoy this special time.

Let me say it again. We know your thoughts. You have had your say, now disappear.

Whatever ego trip you get from this, find it somewhere else. If you want to display your immense self-promoted intellect, do the Herald cross word.

But just go away. You are a bore.

I do the Herald crossword every morning-there is nothing 'intellectual'about it-the task is simply to see how long it takes-normally between 7 and 20 minutes. I don't regard crosswords as anything other than an exercise in lateral thinking.

That, in case I need to explain, is the ability to see hidden or improbable meanings, and requires an open mind and a degree of imagination, which I suspect is the reason you regard them as challenging.

You are a contradiction in terms-a 'wanaff' who claims 'WE know your thoughts'. wacko.gif

mortonjag 2007-04-27 05:29:42
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Apr 26 2007, 05:13 PM) [snapback]262652[/snapback]
is this thread still going?

gave up reading ages ago.

mortonjag is an idiot.
end of.

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mortonjag 2007-04-27 05:38:54
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Apr 26 2007, 07:01 PM) [snapback]262677[/snapback]
For a man of such intelligence you continually let yourself down with what can only be described as 'political spin'.
I thought better of you.
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I probably do, but not on this occasion. I certainly don't tell deliberate lies to discredit other posters, and am not happy when I'm on the receiving end of that type of behaviour.

I've not demanded an apology, gone girning to the 'beak', or sent a 'naughty' P.M., as others have done to me for nothing more than my 'takin' the piss', and I've offered the poster the opportunity to prove his statement, or confirm that he was only goading me.

The fact is Barbarossa, that I did NOT lie low after those games, but instead of checking my posts, you have been gullibly sucked into HIS 'spin'.

I thought better of YOU! huh.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-27 05:53:51 Massive ego-no sense asses.

I've never understood the point of it, but then I've never been impressed by intelligence for its own sake, and in my experience extremely high IQ's are frequently a barrier to normal integration, and are often associated with mental illness.

No point in having a flashy tool kit if you don't know how to use it! mad.gif

Oh-and...

Morton? EXPERIENCE... not 'Shoogling' ahead!
mortonjag 2007-04-27 06:03:01 Hillman Imp-Haynes workshop manual-great read-falling to bits after 35 years, but still pulls at my heartstrings.
mortonjag 2007-04-27 06:14:48
QUOTE(stuart @ Apr 26 2007, 10:50 PM) [snapback]262755[/snapback]
Interesting, out of all our 1st teamers I think that he may be the one player most easily replaced with the experience we are all looking for.

I was delighted when Scott came back to us from Livvi, but I've been a bit disappointed in his progress. Another club would be a fresh start for him. We've got good creative midfielders, but need to fill that 'holding' role with experience.
mortonjag 2007-04-27 06:17:27
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Apr 23 2007, 08:31 PM) [snapback]261133[/snapback]
The stand is for old gits & poofs IMO ! tongue.gif

Or Wimmin tongue.gif
Mon the cooshed. biggrin.gif

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mortonjag 2007-04-27 06:21:20
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Apr 26 2007, 06:50 PM) [snapback]262674[/snapback]
I HONESTLY believe you are a skunk

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mortonjag 2007-04-27 06:22:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 27 2007, 05:39 AM) [snapback]262817[/snapback]
Last week, the Daily Rubbish reported that Golden Casket enjoyed an 11.6 per cent rise in profits to £1.4million last year.

Sales were up 16.4 per cent to £16.2million.

Golden Casket own 81.48 per cent of Morton FC.

Could mortonjag be correct ?

Perhaps DDFR can afford to push out the boat for the new season and take more of a hands off approach.

Just a thought.

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It is forbidden!
mortonjag 2007-04-27 06:34:38
Ayr are not your typical 2nd division club, and this is a nice gesture from them. I can still remember the days when they were a creditable side in the old First division-they have a history similar to ours. Good luck to them with their ambitious plans.
mortonjag 2007-04-28 06:22:29
QUOTE(axeman @ Apr 27 2007, 12:56 PM) [snapback]262922[/snapback]
What I said was, who I saw leaving at full time looked remarkably like who was in your car, because it is your car as described. Of course it was before the game, because obviously I was at Starks Park longer than you were after the game.

Your wordplay & change of emphasis is irrelevant to me. If you are that bothered with proving you stayed, then you can provide a photo from Tontastic's site. If you cannot or will not then that's up to you.

I stayed after the whistle-my brother and partner were with me, as was the monkey! I have absolutely no need to prove anything. Innocent until proven guilty in Scotland last time I checked!
mortonjag 2007-04-28 06:23:49
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Apr 27 2007, 05:59 PM) [snapback]263010[/snapback]
Damn sight funnier that anything you've posted.

well said.
He knows lots of big words and that makes him an authority on every given subject.

He's not an idiot, he's a c*** !! biggrin.gif
By the way moronjag, i called you a C0CK, not a Kunt.

Shows how intelligent you are. dry.gif

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mortonjag 2007-04-28 06:36:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 28 2007, 04:02 AM) [snapback]263247[/snapback]
Could mortonjag be correct ?
The Forum has spoken.

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NewTon-in one simple post you have exposed this forum and many of its posters for what they are-a shower of unimaginitive kids wearing rose tinted specs.

If, for example, after a thoroughly unsatisfactory performance, I (or anyone else for that matter) ask questions of the manager, the onset of aggression and personal abuse comes quicker than a pubescent boy.

Pose a SERIOUS question, as you have done, on an issue which is fundamental to the whole future of Greenock Morton, and the silence is deafening.

Of course the minute one of the weans plucks up the courage to 'have a go' at you (primarily as you have suggested I may have a point), we can sit back and laugh at the barrage of repetitive slights, padded out with the 'well saids' and 'Smileys'.
mortonjag 2007-04-28 06:42:04 Couldn't help noticing three successive sensible posts.

This may well be a record.

mortonjag 2007-04-29 07:18:59
QUOTE(axeman @ Apr 28 2007, 12:44 PM) [snapback]263328[/snapback]
Whatever [attachment=2838:blahblah.gif]

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mortonjag 2007-04-29 07:30:16
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 28 2007, 06:57 AM) [snapback]263260[/snapback]

Pose a SERIOUS question, as you have done, on an issue which is fundamental to the whole future of Greenock Morton, and the silence is deafening.

Gidday mortonjag,

I have another bloody serious question.

http://www.theherald.co.uk/business/news/d...turnover_16.php

Rae added that Golden Casket expects to maintain last year's sales growth in 2007.

But he added: "The only foreseeable risk on the horizon is

the effect that the healthy living' and obesity concerns might have on the confectionery industry as a whole and on our company in particular. Inevitably, there will be an adverse effect.
Thankfully, mortonjag, Golden Casket is not in the tobacco business, which is in an obvious decline.

However, the confectionery industry and the fast food industry are clearly in the sights of the politically correct brigade.

What will that mean for the future profits of Golden Casket and its ability to subsidise its Cappielow subsidiary [code][/code]?
Perhaps Golden Casket can diversify into healthy sugar free sweeties ?

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Facts speak louder than words-his teeth rotting goodies are selling in their millions, and there is evidence that children in the West of Scotland were yet again more obese last year than the previous.

In the longer term he should be thinking of diversification into 'healthy eating' options like the confectionery giants are doing, but 'Shoogly's a very small fish, and will probably successfully swim about that very large pond for years to come by sticking to selling his sticky rubbish.

In sweeties, I guess he'll get off with-'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'.

The point of the thread, however, was different!
mortonjag 2007-04-29 07:49:12 Brilliant weather, happy fans, pressure off, and a thoroughly entertaining match.

The score didn't matter, and I was so pleased to see JM and Martin much more relaxed.

I thought the youngsters all did well against an experienced Ayr squad, and given that we only started five of our recent 'regulars' and could have easily won this game with a wee bit of luck, they deserve acknowledgement and praise on the forum.

IF ONLY Jamie's 'free' had turned a whisker more, that would have been an incredible goal, as he bent it waist high round their defence-he had them bamboozled.

Of the usual subs, I thought Davie McGurn, Alex Walker, and Dean Keenan were all easily up to Ayr's best.

Ryan Harding was minus his usual defensive mate-who was relaxing in the stand with others-and I thought he looked composed and commanding against the likes of Vareille, McLaren and Co.

There is depth of ability in the squad-we can look forward to some exciting football next season if other things are addressed.

It's the Monkey's birthday this Friday, and I've promised him a new TON scarf.
mortonjag 2007-04-29 08:02:28 INDEED mad.gif

Congratulations my arse-can you not see the big picture-bought his way through divisions three and two with ease-struggled 'til the last minute of the season, to cheat the relatively impoverished Perth boys, and now 'They're livin' the dream' again!!

Aye right- I was driving home and Walter Smith was being interviewed. When asked about Gretna in the SPL, he was polite, but you couldn't miss what he was really thinking.

Gretna ARE A JOKE.

Mileson is a CLOWN

The circus has finally come to town, and the SPL will take no prisoners-the bumpkins' fate is sealed.

Mileson's money is NOT up to this challenge-Gretna could NEVER have been self sufficient. Why this farce was ever allowed to get on the road defeats logic, and the SPL are left carrying the baby.

Mind you, I'm OVERJOYED for them. It means WE get to play a football team next season instead of a shower of overpaid, one off, mercenaries.
mortonjag 2007-04-30 09:05:49
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Apr 29 2007, 12:53 PM) [snapback]263899[/snapback]
Sweeties might have a part to play in our kids incredibly bad teeth (although maybe the lack of dentists might be a factor there as well) but I tend to think that their contribution to the overall obesity issue is not that huge - thats more to do with bad diet generally

True-the obesity issue is multi factorial, but 'weans' in the West of Scotland are famous for overindulgence in confectionery-in that particular group it is of major significance.
mortonjag 2007-04-30 09:19:09
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 30 2007, 09:11 AM) [snapback]264247[/snapback]
MJ, you have had a chip on your shoulder about Gretna for ages.

As for your comment about Mileson, I'm probably the only person on this forum who has actually met him, and I can assure you he is not a clown. He's one of the nicest blokes you could wish to meet, utterly normal. He just happens to have made a lot of money and he's spending it having fun.

No-one complains about the OF spending their way to success, so why all the jealousy about Gretna. If DDR had that amount of money, you wouldn't be moaning - and we have done something similar albeit on a smaller scale.

What I've been saying for two seasons is now pretty well the accepted perception in Scottish football Alibi.

Why do you describe it as a 'chip on my shoulder'?

I've never said Mileson isn't a pleasant man, and have repeatedly acknowledged his business talent and financial success.

THAT is what makes him a clown when it comes to foisting his flawed idea on the good folks of Gretna.

It's only a matter of time 'til the money runs out-how long I don't know, but Gretna FC in the SPL will bleed him like a leech.

I imagine he'll eventually walk away with a wee smile and 'Well it was good while it lasted', and if that's OK with Gretna, it's OK with me.
mortonjag 2007-04-30 11:12:31
QUOTE(C B @ Apr 30 2007, 10:18 AM) [snapback]264262[/snapback]
O/T

Hi Mortonjag - thot you were deed ! Hows the monkey ?

Hi CB-I'm very well thanks, and loving this weather. It's the Monkey's fifth birthday on Friday, and he's getting a new Ton scarf and a bunch of organic bananas!

He claims he taught Jamie how to bend those 'frees' as well, but he claims many things. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-30 12:17:49
QUOTE(C B @ Apr 30 2007, 11:54 AM) [snapback]264313[/snapback]
Naa that was me wink.gif

Still, although a lot on here may say otherwise tongue.gif i'm glad you're no deed laugh.gif

...which just proves you can't keep a BAD man down! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-30 12:25:10 Of course they 'should be allowed'-their ticket's been paid for by 'pony tail', and we've been saved the hassle of having to compete with his dosh next season. It'll be extremely interesting to see how the money's spent this time, and for WHAT purpose apart from polishing his own ego.

I'm sure the SPL can't wait! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-30 13:10:40 The Killie game is the obvious choice. Another very important one (at that stage in the season) was the first away game at Cowdenbeath. They were on a 'high' and we tore them to shreds in the first half. The pre-season game at Love St was a cracker too.
mortonjag 2007-04-30 13:14:12
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Apr 30 2007, 11:43 AM) [snapback]264303[/snapback]
I'm a bit surprised if we are going for him but one thing that most people, even MTJ, have tended to agree about is that Jim has a decent eye for a player so we should maybe allow a bit of leeway here.

Provided we get a couple of players with SPL or at least decent first division experience then if Jim want's to take a flyer on a lower league player, that's OK by me.

What worries me, though, is his apparent obsession with talented young midfielders of which we have plenty IMO. An experienced midfield grafter and motivator is a PRIORITY.
mortonjag 2007-04-30 13:17:05 For a moment I thought you were looking for a sh*t farmer.
mortonjag 2007-04-30 14:08:07
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 30 2007, 01:12 PM) [snapback]264343[/snapback]
We didn't play at Love Street pre-season. mellow.gif

My goodness-it was THAT long ago! sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-30 14:08:11
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 30 2007, 01:12 PM) [snapback]264343[/snapback]
We didn't play at Love Street pre-season. mellow.gif

My goodness-it was THAT long ago! sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-04-30 14:17:20
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Apr 30 2007, 01:39 PM) [snapback]264357[/snapback]
I agree with you on this one jag, an experienced midfielder is something we desperately need.

Maybe Jim goes for younger more dynamic midfielders because of the training regime at Cappielow, it has been well documented how fit the squad are and an older warhorse might not be able to match the levels of fitness.

His signings so far have been decent ones imo so I will hold judgement if Borris comes in from Dumbarton, he may just be seen as a good addition to the squad as back-up.

In terms of signings, I agree he's picked up good lads, and we did win the league, which many feel is enough at this stage.

I don't think there's any point in my going over old ground, except to say that I still FIRMLY believe we would have picked up points a damned sight quicker if we had been streetwise.

I read last night that Alan Moore states that Dick Campbell told him several seasons ago he'd never get a squad to win the Second division by 'playing football'.

We've already got a nucleus of excellent young talent, and I'll be totally happy if we sign three or four players, all of whom have 'been around the block'.
mortonjag 2007-04-30 14:38:42
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Apr 30 2007, 01:43 PM) [snapback]264360[/snapback]
Why do so many have an interest in what Gretna's crowds may be in the SPL? I couldn't give a flying f*** about SPL crowds just as I wouldn't expect any SPL team to give a f*** about 2nd division crowds.

Gretna won their promotion fair and square and I'm quite happy they'll be plying their trade in the SPL.

I think the answer lies in the 'fair and square' manner in which they've progressed up the leagues.

They have broken no rules, except perhaps those of common sense, and people are naturally fascinated by the scenario, wherein 'SPL' football is to be played by a village team at a phenomenal loss.

I guess freak shows will always have their attraction for the man in the street.
mortonjag 2007-04-30 14:50:47 Surely we are the goodies, and they are the baddies, or is it more complicated? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-01 07:10:07
QUOTE(lush @ Apr 30 2007, 04:16 PM) [snapback]264442[/snapback]
The board resident "know it all" is wrong. Not from the school of "everybody else was doing it Sir".

I'm meeting my Mum today lush. She's 85, and when I was a wee boy in Greenock, she used to sing me the usual nursery rhymes, and local ditties. I distinctly remember one which started 'We are the tattie howkers', and I'll ask her for an update!

I doubt if it's been changed to 'potato excavation executives' yet.
mortonjag 2007-05-01 07:16:30
QUOTE(suda @ Apr 30 2007, 10:21 PM) [snapback]264587[/snapback]
Just when your starting to make a sensible post you ruin it by quoting Dick Campbell laugh.gif We did win it by playing football with an emerging young side. However I agree experience is required.

Simon Mensing is out of contract at St Johnstone and while he won't be short of offers (the midden are interested as well as clubs down south) if we're going to make one signing I'd make it him. If you released Keanan, Walker (who looks like he won't re-sign anyway) and Finlyson (who is talking to other clubs) you could put together a competitive wage package for him.

Other than that I would still keep an eye on Gretna they have to strengthen and release players, Davie Nicholls would be interesting and Neil McFarlane has also been mentioned. You may also find that Jenkins has been progressed too quickly but he was a classy midfielder when he was playing every week for Stranraer.

Also up for grabs may be Steve Tosh QoS will be in transition with McCall leaving although if he goes to Partick he will look to take players like Tosh who's on a short term deal with him.

There's also a lot to be said for keeping your powder dry there are always a lot of players being released due to lack of finance at this time of year if you can offer a decent full time wage you will pick up bargains. Teams coming down will need to restructure teams going up will need to release players and strengthen. One of McInally's strenghts has been picking up the right player at the right time instead of swaning off to Brazil for a training course like our last incumbent. I would say that the summer months are actually quite busy for the manager.

As for young talent yeah bring them in if it's a replacement for some of the exsisting squad I don't really remeber this guy Borris catching the eye but McInally has done well in the past so I'd trust him. I like the look of Snodgrass tho.

We'll just have to disagree on this one then! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-01 07:27:09 The usual rumours, suggestions and speculation have started, and no doubt will get worse 'til next season finally kicks off.

Shoogly's not a Mileson in terms of cash, but I believe that getting to the SPL in one shot would rapidly return the books to the black for the club.

Surely DDFR wants that. It makes far more sense than scraping along in the 'first' for two or three seasons, and maybe never even getting to the SPL in his (or my) lifetime.

I just hope he 'goes for broke'. There is absolutely no reason why it can't be done IMO.
mortonjag 2007-05-01 08:05:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 1 2007, 07:31 AM) [snapback]264699[/snapback]
I believe that getting to the SPL in one shot would rapidly return the books to the black for the club.
What SPL clubs, if any, made a profit in 2005/2006 ??

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I haven't a clue, but I've said repeatedly that we have the most potent fan base in Scotland, barring the OF and two or three others. With prudent housekeeping there is no reason to be pessimistic IMO.
mortonjag 2007-05-01 11:09:51
QUOTE(shedhead @ May 1 2007, 08:36 AM) [snapback]264715[/snapback]
"going for broke" while being "prudent" sounds quite a difficult task.

...normally described as 'Taking a calculated risk'. I understand what you say-it's a case of spending the right amount on the right players, and getting a decent return on the investment. If we get to the SPL, the crowds should take care of themselves, but there are no guarantees in football.
mortonjag 2007-05-01 12:39:28
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 1 2007, 12:04 PM) [snapback]264787[/snapback]
Aye Livi in the cup was a nightmare. Going back a couple of seasons, Arbroath was bloddy cold to.

That had to be the worst ever-I remember the Livvi goalie taking 'bye' kicks which were literally bending backwards with the force of the wind. Davie McGurn managed a wee bit better. I heard the commentary was on the radio, and as I was literally soaked through sitting in the STAND, I confess I headed for the car with about fifteen minutes to go and heard the rest in relative comfort!

I remember Richard Gough saying on the programme that Morton were a FAR bigger club than folk appreciated.
mortonjag 2007-05-01 12:43:04
QUOTE(Laura_w @ May 1 2007, 11:09 AM) [snapback]264774[/snapback]
my pal's uncle is on the board of directers at Falkirk and he said they've actually lost money since being in the spl due to the cost of the new stadium and the fact that only the old firm and maybe hearts & hibs fill it when they come.

As somebody else has pointed out, end of year accounts can show an ongoing deficit if the club's had huge outlays. That doesn't necessarily mean their outgoings in the season have exceeded their income.
mortonjag 2007-05-01 12:47:15 I'd have been tempted to post from work like most folk, but as I never had a minute to spare, it would have been impossible.
mortonjag 2007-05-01 12:49:57 Just look at the weather folks, and our season's gone. This old chestnut comes up every year, but I'd still love summer football.
mortonjag 2007-05-01 14:02:35
QUOTE(ayrstorm @ May 1 2007, 01:43 PM) [snapback]264846[/snapback]
our pals up the road certainly aint making no profit.
gilmour when announcing the sale to Tesco talked about it stopping the debt growing and ending the risk to the future of the club.

and even if they had been making an operating profit - would we really like to do it the way they have, smallest budget, poorest squad and a dire set of results? We've done that in the top league before - I'm not desperate to see that again if that is the way to be in SPL and stay in the black.

That's very pessimistic talk-the point is we don't have any debt (if you take DDFR out of the equation from that angle).

Massive loans and overdrafts can cripple even a relatively profitable business, I agree, but a debt free company can soldier on happily even one penny in the black each year.

You frighten me. Are you suggesting that a provincial club who will pull in an average of 6000 to 7000 fans over an SPL season can't make a couple of bob?
mortonjag 2007-05-01 14:10:20
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ May 1 2007, 12:52 PM) [snapback]264804[/snapback]
“Do as I say, not as I doâ€

Is this an unfair description of Tommy Sheridan? Just seen him in Blythswood Square parking his 06 Honda CTDI, with natty suite on and laptop in tow. He looked like a corporate banker. I have no issues with TS but I often think that TS and Galloway (holiday home in Portugal etc) are fraudsters: defending the poor whilst living off the trappings of this success.

I don't think you can blame St Thomas of Cardonald for moving with the times, and let's face it he IS a politician-not a normal member of society.

Seems no time ago since he was swinging from his tree house at Pollok though!
mortonjag 2007-05-01 14:14:30
QUOTE(ThornTON @ May 1 2007, 12:51 PM) [snapback]264803[/snapback]
In short, f*** off.

In shorts I certainly will not. Who stole your scone sonny boy? smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-01 14:52:27 The young Lilley had plenty of pace, AND power. Ask anybody who played against him.
mortonjag 2007-05-01 15:01:19
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 1 2007, 02:39 PM) [snapback]264891[/snapback]
After spending those extra years in the second I don't think you'llfind there is much left in the biscuit tin . I am rather shocked at your stance . As a club we have still got lots to do before considering a push into the SPL . I hope Dougie has more reservations with his money (I know hes had offers but better the devil you know )
I will be given a roasting for not having ambition , this isin't my case it is a reasonable arguement about the long term future .
We have to renovate the club not only the Stadia but commercially and a proper stratedgy for bringing through our own players . On our part will take patience and individual investment from the board it will take skillful management and financial commitment .
Teams like Falkirk had several seasons where they had geared up for the top division . Its no use to anyone doing a Midden and yo yo up and down every season . You could end up like Thistle and have such a disaster that you freefall into the 2nd again .
Lets all get used to the 1st , start seeing improvements where they are needed .
I think we need as a club to set goals on these things maybe they are in place but rather than fully outlining them and placing your head on the block , it has been kept low key .
Came your jets !!

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OK jets have been turned to half power!

It's just two different ways of looking at facts. IF we invest heavily enough to get to the SPL quickly, I believe we'd be able to make a profit there-that was my whole reason for asking how much DDFR has in his biscuit tin, and used the term 'Go for broke'.

I agree there's an element of gamble, and I was by no means suggesting that WE have been profitable to date-merely making a general point, but fans will soon tire of the first division if we don't seem to be going anywhere, and financially that could be shooting ourselves in the foot in terms of gates.

Strike while the iron is hot!

Mortonjag is trying SO hard to be POSITIVE!
mortonjag 2007-05-02 06:27:56
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ May 1 2007, 10:51 PM) [snapback]265039[/snapback]
Summer football is for pansies!

JB.

That's the plot! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-02 06:33:11
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ May 1 2007, 03:08 PM) [snapback]264906[/snapback]
OK you made me spend my £1 and download their accounts. Their financial year end is 31 May and the last published accounts are for the year to 31 May 2006, their first in the SPL. The highlights from these accounts are that turnover was up from £2m in their last season in the first division to £3.3m in the first in the SPL and they made a bottom line profit of £475,000. At the year end they had £926,000 in the bank although that is at the time of year when season ticket renewals are just in so its probably near the annual peak.

Some other interesting statistics from those accounts

Total Staff...................115
of which playing staff....51

They lost £527,000 in their last season in the first division but had a playing staff of 53. That seems rather a lot!

Ground capacity at Falkirk is 7500
Average attendance was 6100

Sponsorship and TV money just for being in the SPL £700,000

I think your pal's uncle is talking mythical figures.

If anyone else wants to see these sort of numbers for any club, they are available to download from www.companieshouse.gov.uk

The proof in numbers! Mind you those are REAL ones. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-02 06:37:49
QUOTE(mickaspic @ May 1 2007, 04:23 PM) [snapback]264937[/snapback]
MortonJag, you have said that we would be bringing in 6000-7000 in the SPL but I think these figures are unlikely. Especially if we had a prolonged spell there. There are two major problems - the Old Firm being the first. When I am travelling to Cappielow I always pass at least 3/4 (minimum) coaches going the other way to glasgow depending who is at home. These people may turn up to Cappielow with a mate once a year to see the "big game" such as Peterhead a few years ago, or Motherwell away in the cup, but they wont be there versus Motherwell on a Monday night in December. Especially when the prices are £28 a ticket. Also when you consider how bad the current setup is at involving the community I dont see a surge of youngsters.

The other problem is that the SPL is boring. The longer you are there the more your crowds will suffer. I would hate to be a Dundee Utd or Killie supporter. They play every year to avoid relegation, maybe get a cup run and maybe once every ten years qualify for Europe. I think in the SPL we would average around 4-5000.

As a fan I am more interested in the First next year, should be a great league. I would certainly rather be there than paying silly amounts to watch boring Motherwell/Falkirk/Dunfermline.

Mick

I believe we'd average 6000 -7000 over the course of a season-I can't see us pulling in less than 3000-4000 even for the most unattractive games, given we'll always have SOME away support, and the OF, Hearts, Hibs, Killie, etc. should bring enough to fill the stadium.

One of the problems is that you'll never know 'til you try it, but believe me, the number of 'floating' supporters in Inverclyde is enormous.
mortonjag 2007-05-02 06:41:34
QUOTE(ayrstorm @ May 1 2007, 04:36 PM) [snapback]264940[/snapback]
I am sure if a provincial club had a stadium funded by other sources (livingston, clyde, as examples), were debt free (not many of those) and did get an av of 6 or 7K home gate - they could survive and stay in the black in the SPL.

Unfortunately we dont have a council or development group or other source ploughing money in to give a compliant stadium nor do I beleive in all our time in the top league have we managed to average 7K (not even when we sat at the top for a few weeks).

Not meaning to be frightning or pessimistic - just realistic. Other clubs ran and now struggle to walk. We are all looking forward to the end of an overly long spell in the lower reaches an I just think we need to step with care.

No Ton fan will have enjoyed the year we set a record low pts in the premier - thats what I meant by my comparison with the saints. If we can get to the SPl, we need to be with a squad on the same financial footing as 7 other clubs and with the things like stadium, not sure if we can YET.

We were certainly pulling in 5, 6 and 7k a week in the old second division with Hal Stewart. I'd like to see the crowd figures for the season you mention if somebody's got them.
mortonjag 2007-05-02 06:45:46
QUOTE(big B @ May 1 2007, 04:38 PM) [snapback]264942[/snapback]
I agree with you in principle but surely the object of a team and it's supporter's is trying to win the league

EXACTLY, and what everybody's failed to mention so far is that IF we were doing well in the SPL, the prospect of financial failure would be unlikely.

I frankly don't see the point in ever settling for second best. We are Morton, super Morton, and I BELIEVE IT -I don't just sing wee songs to wind up the opposition! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-02 06:50:39
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ May 2 2007, 12:49 AM) [snapback]265076[/snapback]
The Killie game, without a doubt.

St Johnstone and the last Forfar game also merit a mention.
Missed the 4-2 win over Peterhead through work sad.gif

And whilst we may have won the league at Raith, we were abysmal.

Somebody else noticed-Madam-you've made my day. I haven't stopped crying over the abuse I've taken for questioning our celebration of that defeat! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-02 06:55:54 Somebody who's been around, takes no prisoners, and HATES getting beaten.

That linked to leadership and motivation-there are not many around, but just ONE of those would be worth three or four more of what we've been getting so far.
mortonjag 2007-05-02 07:01:13 I'm delighted for them-no doubt my Scouser Grandad will be whooping it up with Old Nick! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-02 08:52:29 cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ May 2 2007, 07:32 AM) [snapback]265095[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->We can still get into the SPL and stay at Cappielow with a bit of tinkering with the old lady we can meet the criteria and if we can stay up the we can start think of developing Cappielow. We then do not have to go into serious debt that will cripple the club......Just a thought.[/quote]
That was the point of the post really-I never imagined we'd have to build a new stadium. We ARE a viable proposition for other SPL clubs, and I imagine they'd facilitate ground sharing if we needed time to tidy things up at Scapa, though our best option financially is to have Sinclair St. ready for the SPL.

Let's face it, the money will have to be spent sooner or later. If the intention is to spend it later, I believe we'll just miss out on potential income.

I come back to my original question. If DDFR had to lay out a couple of million just now, and that would guarantee us a place in the SPL next season (because we'd sorted the stadium and bought the right players), he'd have massively increased the value of the club as an asset, even if it owed him much more. He would hopefully then start to reap in some profits too. I really can't see anything unsound in the argument....unless of course, the cash is not available.

I acknowledge the worry about not having a 'sound base' of players etc., etc., and comparison to other clubs who have tried and failed, but Motherwell and Killie are just two examples of clubs with a similar or smaller fanbase than ours, who are synonymous with SPL football.

If it's wanted enough, it can be done.
mortonjag 2007-05-02 09:35:07 Gowser's a luxury we can't afford IMO, and anyway, I can't see him escaping the piggery yet.

He's been entertaining, but ultimately I believe his inexperience did us as much harm as his talent did the opposite.

We seem generally agreed at the moment that we've plenty of youngsters with ability. It's getting it to gel that matters.
mortonjag 2007-05-02 09:39:09
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 2 2007, 09:26 AM) [snapback]265115[/snapback]
What's your point? From the only photo I've seen of her, she seems to be one very elegant lady, and looks a lot younger than her years. and your facts are wrong - he's 54, not 56.

And she's 69 by the way. Which might explain Alex's grin....!

.....and suggests he may occasionally have some talent up top.
mortonjag 2007-05-02 11:40:28
QUOTE(mickaspic @ May 2 2007, 11:13 AM) [snapback]265135[/snapback]
"If we sign the right 3/4 players we will have a team capable of getting promotion and if we do, we cans strengthen again the following close season."

I think the problem is that throwing money at the team doesnt garauntee promotion. Look at our history in the second - we were the only full time team, we were signing decent players on decent wages, we had training facilities other teams would kill for and we still took a number of years to get promoted.

I have to disagree that 3/4 players would turn us into contenders. Look at the St Johnstones side - there are many players there of 1st Div/premier pedigree. OK we beat them in a one off game but over a season they're stronger squad would prevail. Also the side coming down will have a strong side. I think to compete we would need at least 6 new faces and not squad players but instant first team picks.

Im not trying to be negative just realistic. I would love us to splash the cash and go for it but think it requires a massive investment, the right players brought in, the right manager, and even then its a gamble. I think Dougie will not be wishing to take this gamble and we will be in for a long hard slog next season.

Mick

What you say about the past is history Mick. We should now be able to learn from the painful lessons of the past. Of course 'throwing money at it' doesn't always work, but the reverse is often true and many extremely successful sides have emerged from relatively little because the right blend was there from Board through management and on to the pitch.

The St Johnstone game may have been a 'one off' but we beat Killie, and did well against Motherwell. Even Clyde were no better IMO-just more streetwise.

Our potential has been acknowledged by those in the know-we DON'T need radical changes-just to get the right players in place, and we'll be 'Up for it'.

I say this with no hidden agenda. A change of manager could make a BIG impact, but even JM with the right guys on the pitch can pull it off IMO.
mortonjag 2007-05-02 12:33:35
QUOTE(briggsTON @ May 2 2007, 11:42 AM) [snapback]265152[/snapback]
Derek was also a superb from the spot. I only remember him missing one at Dundee in the Cup. The night the young lad Mason scored the winner.

McGraw used to talk about his three Dereks-and when Derek (Lilley) was motoring, Morton were motoring he would say.
mortonjag 2007-05-02 12:50:14 I confess to a solitary tattoo on my 'willie' which reads 'NODDY', as it's usually sound asleep.

Very occasionally it reads 'Not Disabled Or Dead Yet'. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-02 14:14:47
QUOTE(ThornTON @ May 2 2007, 01:54 PM) [snapback]265210[/snapback]
Smoking geriatric midget?

Do we really need that Linn and McGowan cover the midget quota, we would need a 6 footer, so that we could have Temps and Gowzer, and Linn and ???

Take it you're anti fags, ageist, and obsessed with height! rolleyes.gif

If somebody can do for us what he's recently done for his club ThornTON, I frankly don't care if he's a teetotal non-smoking two foot six high martian paedophile, with a skunk tattooed on his eyebrow. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-02 14:18:52
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 2 2007, 01:19 PM) [snapback]265197[/snapback]
What's position 52? Is that the one where you shaft Jack McConnell?

Jack McConnell is so full of sh*t I reckon that to be a physical impossibility.
mortonjag 2007-05-03 06:27:09
QUOTE(ThornTON @ May 2 2007, 08:44 PM) [snapback]265347[/snapback]
What a surprise, no response from MJ laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

In shorts-f*ck off! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-03 06:38:59 I'm definitely heading to Stirling this Saturday. They've bounced back, and Bingham's experience was evident last night, with Cramb back too. This game ought to be an absolute cracker.

I'd feel really sorry for the Binos if they fail in the playoffs, though Airdrie gave Brechin a scudding apparently, so it now looks like Kircaldy, Stirling, or Airdrie next season. Things are finally getting a wee bit closer to home-no more Dingwalls, Peterheads, Berwicks, or Brechins thank goodness.

Some folk have been girning about the higher ticket prices in division 1, but we'll be in pocket because of cheaper travel.
mortonjag 2007-05-03 09:32:24
QUOTE(ThornTON @ May 3 2007, 08:47 AM) [snapback]265451[/snapback]
Heading to Birmingham, wouldn't waste money to watch Stirling v Raith.

Hasn't taken you long to forget the humble second division-eh! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-03 11:28:20
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 3 2007, 10:41 AM) [snapback]265490[/snapback]
You're very clever.

But is he correct?

HJKLMNO-SEVEN letters-so 'Seven' could be a possible, but tid's is much better!
mortonjag 2007-05-03 11:29:22
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 3 2007, 10:37 AM) [snapback]265487[/snapback]
It was supposed to say "I LOVE THE COMMUNISTS" but unfortunately the tattooist was Lithuanian.

Red it wrongly.
mortonjag 2007-05-04 06:52:53
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ May 3 2007, 04:03 PM) [snapback]265688[/snapback]
14 goals in a season in which he played in virtually every game at some point... not a brilliant return in my opinion. We'll see... I just don't see him scoring enough goals next season. I like the guy as a player, but he's way too slow.

McGowan's a midfielder like three quarters of the current squad-AND inexperienced like most of the current squad-AND the manager-AND the chairman.

We've got a good groundsman mind you-so we sometimes get things right!
mortonjag 2007-05-04 06:55:55 In particular Trick, who has finally reached the age when life really begins! Also RSC, and Zutons.
mortonjag 2007-05-04 08:51:11
QUOTE(ThornTON @ May 4 2007, 08:45 AM) [snapback]265999[/snapback]
Will you give up? You're talking s***.

I never give up. I may be talking 'sh*t', but my opinion appears to be shared by many of the more perceptive posters.

Instead of indulging in puerile and sarcastic iconoclasm, let's hear a valid counter proposition, if that's not beyond your intellect.
mortonjag 2007-05-04 09:52:07
QUOTE(ThornTON @ May 4 2007, 08:53 AM) [snapback]266002[/snapback]
Who holds your opinion? I've seen no-one else say "McGowan is a midfielder" which is absolute nonsense.

He scores goals, and has a s*** first touch, how the hell can he be a midfielder?

Several posters if you could be bothered to check-he is not a winger, he is NEVER a striker, he is a creative play maker who likes to lie quite deep, and he is still young and inexperienced-a bit like yourself I guess! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-04 10:30:18 Sponsorship's a big part of the finances those days-surely you wouldn't turn away somebody who'd give you plenty of dosh just for 'wearing' his company logo!

If our shirts read 'University of Paisley' it might seem 'tacky' and would CERTAINLY be a joke, but for the right money, I'd go for it.
mortonjag 2007-05-04 10:34:20
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 4 2007, 08:35 AM) [snapback]265997[/snapback]
What about the letters ...

A

U

E

L

O

X
? ? ?

Goldilocks?

Au = Gold + E + Lox unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-04 11:15:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 4 2007, 10:36 AM) [snapback]266039[/snapback]
biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Gidday mortonjag,

How much longer can DDFR afford to ignore your talents ??

huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif

I've always enjoyed fairy stories!

Do you remember this from schooldays?


YYUR
YYUB
ICUR
YY4ME
mortonjag 2007-05-04 12:25:38
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 4 2007, 11:03 AM) [snapback]266047[/snapback]
Salmond married Moira McGlashan in 1981, when he was 26 and she was 43.
Whit's wrong with fancying an older lady when one is 26 ???

Many a good tune played etc.

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That's true, but does he still 'fancy' that lady when she's 69 and he's only 52? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-04 12:27:16
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 4 2007, 11:39 AM) [snapback]266065[/snapback]
Many happy returns RSC and Zuton . Enjoy the day , MJ no more candles on your cake or old Shoogily will be taking them off you to upgrade the floodlighting laugh.gif Have a great day Ernie .
Sorry Trick , nearly forgot you there, you have a good time .
A very popular day for Birthdays on the board , can we trace that back to a powercut at some point .

We only got electricity into our close when I was four!
mortonjag 2007-05-04 12:31:30
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 4 2007, 11:24 AM) [snapback]266053[/snapback]
Aye, mortonjag, you are, mate.

and for most who post here.

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In Oz, we have the this delightful euphemism for copulation - root

Which leads to the school boy question ...

B 4 I square root U RU / 16 ???

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Brings to mind my favourite maths Limerick

There was a young man from Bengal
who had a hexagonal ball.
The molecular weight of his penis - times eight,
was half the square root of f*ck all.
mortonjag 2007-05-04 12:34:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 4 2007, 12:32 PM) [snapback]266087[/snapback]
un, deux, trois, etc.

Soixante neuf isn't so appealing when she is-but then I wouldn't know!
mortonjag 2007-05-04 12:37:41
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ May 4 2007, 11:37 AM) [snapback]266062[/snapback]
Quite the opposite, he comes from a family of St Mirren fans. His brother runs a St Mirren supporters bus....

....and his sister runs a broth-erm 'soup kitchen' in Feegie.
mortonjag 2007-05-04 13:54:14
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 4 2007, 12:54 PM) [snapback]266099[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif

No doubt the 'black out' had its uses! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-04 13:56:59
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 4 2007, 01:15 PM) [snapback]266113[/snapback]
Whats wrong with that University that many morton fans have attended and are attending...

Its location! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-04 15:18:00
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 4 2007, 01:57 PM) [snapback]266132[/snapback]
Did me no harm wink.gif

The location or the Uni? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-05 08:16:32 I'm delighted that the so called 'Labour' party has finally got its come uppance in Scotland.

Baw heid Salmond will now get the opportunity to prove himself. I can't wait! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-05 08:32:07
QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 4 2007, 11:47 PM) [snapback]266346[/snapback]
Just read on P&B that Gretna have released John O'Neill, Davie Nicholls and Mathew Berkley.

All three could do a job for us although Berkley's a right winger and we've an abundance of right sided players already.

...but not one single right winger-over supplied with right sided midfielders IMO.
mortonjag 2007-05-05 09:03:56 I couldn't believe the result on Wednesday-Airdrie can't be that much better than Brechin-or can they?

Just had the strange thought that it's still possible we could be scooting up to Angus again next season.

I'm heading for the Stirling - Raith game which will be a cracker, and I believe Alan Moore's side have clawed back their confidence, and will edge it.
mortonjag 2007-05-05 09:41:15
QUOTE(asdfhjkla @ May 5 2007, 09:21 AM) [snapback]266413[/snapback]
Airdrie were rotten, Brechin weren't that good either, but were the better of the two sides. Two early penalties and Brechin being reduced to 10 men gave Airdrie the edge. An early goal for Brechin and I can see them getting something out of this, especially since away goals don't count for nothing in the playoffs.

You've almost persuaded me to go to Airdrie instead-Forthbank will be helluva busy-decisions, decisions!

Just 'phoned my brother-it's Airdrie-hope it's not the wrong choice! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-05 10:32:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 5 2007, 10:02 AM) [snapback]266420[/snapback]
Glenpark, mortonjag, Glenpark.

smile.gif smile.gif

I can't stand the sight of grown men hitting a wee ball with a stick! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-05 12:15:18
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ May 5 2007, 11:42 AM) [snapback]266437[/snapback]
We know , you've told us already

Well, just in case you all missed it I'm now heading for Airdrie. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-05 12:16:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 5 2007, 11:11 AM) [snapback]266432[/snapback]
a wee ball ??

Naw, mortonjag, that's golf, mate.

Cricketers have big red balls.

biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

...and wee sticks? smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-07 06:19:33 If we make sensible signings we'll be in the top three-we CAN get to the SPL in one season if we want it enough.

I've watched five or six first division games this season, and saw Airdrie play Brechin on Saturday. Our current squad is capable of better football than most in the higher league, but we need to harden up and become much more clinical.

I wouldn't dream of predicting the pecking order though. It depends on so many similar factors involving the other clubs.
mortonjag 2007-05-07 06:25:41 Salmond is reputedly bright. He'll soon come down from 'cloud nine' and work out some scheme in an attempt to achieve independence by being exactly the opposite. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-07 06:30:53 miss the bus
mortonjag 2007-05-07 07:45:38 Isabelle
mortonjag 2007-05-07 07:49:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 7 2007, 07:36 AM) [snapback]267044[/snapback]
Gidday Teacher Tom,

I accept that there is a material protest vote component in the 35%.

Therefore to get an extra 67% of Scots to vote SNP in a referendum is, in IMHO, a bridge too far, in the next few years.

Surely Salmond can see this as well.

So, he may as well do a deal with the Lib Debs and leave his referendum for another day.

The alternative ??

To "rule" as a minority government and play right into the hands of Scottish Labour and Westminster.

Thereby conceding that the SNP does not have a mandate to run the country. That's what I meant by him embracing 'dependence' in the faint hope that genuine independence is still a possibility.
mortonjag 2007-05-07 07:55:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 7 2007, 04:22 AM) [snapback]267037[/snapback]
Greenock 194 (T McIntosh 36, SD Weeraratna 57, C Leggett 5-31)

Carlton 195-3 (P Wooden 76*, JAM Kerr 60 *)


sad.gif sad.gif

Some odd names there. Wooden-Leggett would be a nice double barrelled one!
mortonjag 2007-05-07 08:04:06
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 7 2007, 07:55 AM) [snapback]267049[/snapback]
Perhaps, but I still believe that he has no wish to get into real politics and run the country. Get his hands ditrty with minutiae and watch the protest vote p1ss away at the next election.
Better in his view to greet and whine that the wish of the people is being subverted.

He loves the limelight-it's a form of addiction to those types Tom-I honestly don't think 'Baw Heid' WILL ever be content until he's the 'Big Cheese'.

Then he'd have to see if his half baked ideas could actually emerge from the oven in palatable guise.
mortonjag 2007-05-07 08:36:01 wabbit
mortonjag 2007-05-07 08:40:07
QUOTE(grnklad2006ton @ May 6 2007, 06:30 PM) [snapback]266846[/snapback]
You mean Airdrie? Thats who i would like to play to the first game. I put them on to win the whole play aff before a ball was even kicked, i knew they would run a mock in those play affs. Airdrie at cappielow wink.gif

Brechin could have had three in the first half on Saturday, (Airdrie were very ordinary apart from two excellent individual goals). Kevin Byers was impressive for Brechin-strong, direct attacking midfielder who doesn't 'f****y about'. He's 27 at the moment, and could handle division 1 IMO.

I strongly fancy Stirling to pull it off.

I'd like to beat that Pishley crowd in our first game.
mortonjag 2007-05-07 08:42:54
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 7 2007, 08:36 AM) [snapback]267061[/snapback]
Wabbit

wabbit and Wabbit!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-07 08:57:05 Greacen
mortonjag 2007-05-07 09:01:18 Bed time tales. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-07 09:20:44 Keech
mortonjag 2007-05-09 16:42:44 ....a stale black puddin' supper in curry sauce on a rainy Sunday afternoon, unless...
mortonjag 2007-05-09 16:48:15 Supergrass
mortonjag 2007-05-09 16:49:51 Fire
mortonjag 2007-05-09 16:56:01 Barbies
mortonjag 2007-05-09 17:02:18 Drastic, bombastic, and far from elastic.

It's funny how those words all rhyme with monastic! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-09 17:04:46 Verve
mortonjag 2007-05-09 17:06:59 ..you are forbidden to eat blood products unless....
mortonjag 2007-05-09 17:08:05
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 9 2007, 04:57 PM) [snapback]268702[/snapback]
Bullet

Suppositories.
mortonjag 2007-05-09 17:10:57 Yazz and the plastic population
mortonjag 2007-05-09 17:18:41 Won a rally jacket many years ago at an open night at a major car retailer for the fastest time to remove and replace a set of four spark plugs, and won ANOTHER rally jacket about a year later for guessing the number of cans of oil in a Golf hatchback (with my tie breaking caption-I love Castrol because----it's GT excellent).

That's about the lot!
mortonjag 2007-05-09 17:20:36 scales
mortonjag 2007-05-09 17:25:55
QUOTE(stuart @ May 8 2007, 09:45 PM) [snapback]268310[/snapback]
You probably upload it to photobucket or something and link to it from there.

Can anyone remember what was written on the wee church along from Cappielow's notice board outside the day we won the league against peterhead?

Jesus saves-Mathers makes an arse of Bannerman's shot.
mortonjag 2007-05-09 17:30:35
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 9 2007, 05:27 PM) [snapback]268729[/snapback]
you are a vampire, although there are exemptions which are....

....applicable only to halal black puddings, haggis off the bone, and...
mortonjag 2007-05-09 17:32:48 nirvana
mortonjag 2007-05-09 17:35:24 Depeche mode
mortonjag 2007-05-09 17:36:02 Pins
mortonjag 2007-05-09 17:39:57 tobacco
mortonjag 2007-05-09 17:40:49 Fratellis
mortonjag 2007-05-09 17:45:27 I typed that in-I genuinely wanted to get the derivation of the nickname for one of life's basics.

'Great deals on JOBBY-shop on e-bay and save'.

E-Bay are pure sh*te IMO. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-09 17:46:49 castle
mortonjag 2007-05-09 17:49:05 Rider
mortonjag 2007-05-09 17:51:08 Buster
mortonjag 2007-05-09 17:53:53 Artery
mortonjag 2007-05-09 17:58:24 surgery
mortonjag 2007-05-09 18:23:22
QUOTE(Kaney @ May 9 2007, 06:14 PM) [snapback]268779[/snapback]
How?

Because they haven't ACTUALLY got any 'jobby' for sale-they just claim to sell anything and everything!
mortonjag 2007-05-09 20:21:57
QUOTE(WillowMan @ May 9 2007, 08:06 PM) [snapback]268813[/snapback]
Who's this Jesus character ??

Does he post on here tongue.gif

You don't know ...

JESUS CHRIST!
mortonjag 2007-05-09 20:26:28
QUOTE(Capuan @ May 9 2007, 07:00 PM) [snapback]268803[/snapback]
I'll sell you mine if your that desperate...

I'll need a description and an idea of price first-and it MUST only have one previous owner.
mortonjag 2007-05-09 20:31:43 jobby
mortonjag 2007-05-09 20:32:48 kaiser chiefs
mortonjag 2007-05-09 20:38:05
QUOTE(WillowMan @ May 9 2007, 08:28 PM) [snapback]268829[/snapback]
Oh My God !!!!

That's his daddy!
mortonjag 2007-05-09 20:41:30
QUOTE(manchesterton @ May 9 2007, 08:33 PM) [snapback]268835[/snapback]
(Jeez, you are obsessed man!!!!!! - Are you at the game tomorrow night?)

Stinky

Which game?


....skunk
mortonjag 2007-05-09 20:49:53
QUOTE(arklesTON @ May 9 2007, 07:34 PM) [snapback]268805[/snapback]
Old Bam McT:

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDHe's reputedly very fond of that odd Goldie.
mortonjag 2007-05-09 21:03:06
QUOTE(manchesterton @ May 9 2007, 08:59 PM) [snapback]268854[/snapback]
The Renfrewshire Semi at Cappielow!!!!!!!!

Midden

Didn't realise it was on-yes I'll be there!

Bin
mortonjag 2007-05-09 21:05:32 massive attack
mortonjag 2007-05-09 21:08:09
QUOTE(ThornTON @ May 9 2007, 09:06 PM) [snapback]268862[/snapback]
2 ex Ton players involved in the game.

..and an ex Ton manager.
mortonjag 2007-05-09 22:31:17 Airdrie are not great-Stirling will be promoted.
mortonjag 2007-05-10 06:35:09
QUOTE(manchesterton @ May 9 2007, 09:14 PM) [snapback]268871[/snapback]
No way man............ that's sick biggrin.gif

Not if you're a coprophiliac-let's face it, if you're paying for sex toys you're entitled to get good value for money.

Coprophagy...well maybe that's too much to swallow, even for mortonjag. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-10 06:41:08 ...Kirk's jaw dropped at the sight of..
mortonjag 2007-05-10 06:44:01 cyclist
mortonjag 2007-05-10 07:20:40 Al Isbunah Lyons!
mortonjag 2007-05-10 09:29:42
QUOTE(manchesterton @ May 10 2007, 07:21 AM) [snapback]269044[/snapback]
Now you give me the dry boak .............. ohmy.gif

My goodness, you've got a weak stomach, Manchesterjag!!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-10 17:07:56
QUOTE(Millartime @ May 10 2007, 02:46 PM) [snapback]269181[/snapback]
he'd just found out why Lt Uhura was dark, it was because William Shatner, so he .......

sewed up the offending arse with....
mortonjag 2007-05-10 17:12:12
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 10 2007, 05:03 PM) [snapback]269232[/snapback]
Boa

stiff
mortonjag 2007-05-10 17:21:14
QUOTE(manchesterton @ May 10 2007, 03:25 PM) [snapback]269193[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I like it

Oops-but nobody seems to have noticed 'our' faux pas!
mortonjag 2007-05-10 17:35:07 A high court judge has praised the courage, integrity and maturity of a 17 year old Irish girl, who has won the right to travel to Britain for an abortion.

The foetus is anencephalic-it has no brain tissue, and cannot survive outside the womb.

In no way is this a convenient substitute for contraception, yet a spokesman for the Catholic Church in Scotland said, 'The girl concerned, if she goes ahead, will still be faced with the consequences of her pregnancy for the rest of her life'.

Presumably he'd prefer her to go through another 22 weeks of mental turmoil, knowing that she is simply growing a 'vegetable', and give it a big loving cuddle before it succumbs, thereby 'fixing' the moral issue conveniently for all concerned.

If any of you have the stomach, go on line and check some pictures of anencephaly-a foetus with no brain is very sad indeed, and not a pleasant sight.

There is no excuse for a church representative appearing to have suffered the same fate.
mortonjag 2007-05-10 17:45:20 deftones
mortonjag 2007-05-10 17:46:23
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 10 2007, 05:45 PM) [snapback]269252[/snapback]
neck

bottle
mortonjag 2007-05-10 17:50:54
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 10 2007, 05:49 PM) [snapback]269256[/snapback]
Vodka

willow
mortonjag 2007-05-10 17:53:44
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 10 2007, 05:51 PM) [snapback]269258[/snapback]
...a needle and thread because....

he'd run out of electric cable, but...
mortonjag 2007-05-10 18:19:29
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ May 10 2007, 06:16 PM) [snapback]269268[/snapback]
right at the very minute Two manky paisley bhastards stole 10 reels of electrical cable under the noses of security at the new tesco store in the port and beamed them aboard the enterprise.....so

...the arse was carefully unpicked, cleaned with WD 40, and..
mortonjag 2007-05-10 18:20:44
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 10 2007, 06:19 PM) [snapback]269272[/snapback]
Shark

Scott
mortonjag 2007-05-11 06:02:52
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ May 10 2007, 07:16 PM) [snapback]269308[/snapback]
clad NachoKing appeared from nowhere and said " you ya bum robber get out of there thats my jobby"..

....and it's a healthy one too-packed with millions of pencil shavings and one vitamin, but...
mortonjag 2007-05-11 06:30:56
QUOTE(lush @ May 10 2007, 07:39 PM) [snapback]269314[/snapback]
?? unsure.gif

whaat
mortonjag 2007-05-11 06:58:09
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 10 2007, 06:37 PM) [snapback]269299[/snapback]
Hmm- does the spokesman say the choice is wrong? He simply states that the poor lassie will always be reminded of a her dreadful situation. This is true whichever choice she takes.

This is echoed by the Church of Scotland spokesman in the same article who said.
"The circumstances surrounding individual abortion cases can be tragic, and none more so than this particular case."

Oh and , for the record - I'll restate my position, Abortion is a great evil,though sometimes it prevents a greater evil.

There is no point in trying to justify his position by semantic manipulation Tom. Unless I'm very much mistaken, this was the standard 'hard line' proclamation we always get from the RCCevery time they are asked to comment on abortion.

You and I appear to share views on the procedure. This case is about a non viable foetus, and is an absolutely classical 'lesser of two evils'. IMO the clergy should keep their mouths shut about issues which do not concern them. Abortion per se may well be immoral, but every case must be judged on its merits by those who fully understand the individual issues.
mortonjag 2007-05-11 07:01:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 11 2007, 06:45 AM) [snapback]269555[/snapback]
James ?

Jellyes
mortonjag 2007-05-11 07:07:26 Money talks to professional footballers as to the general public, and 'every man has his price'.

IF it catalyses good attractive football, it's good for the game, and not unrealistic.
mortonjag 2007-05-11 07:14:45
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 11 2007, 05:27 AM) [snapback]269552[/snapback]
wot about a french tart ?

huh.gif

Auld's specials have little holes. Apparently they greatly increase the chances of a perfect end product.
mortonjag 2007-05-11 07:24:54
QUOTE(Jackie @ May 11 2007, 07:13 AM) [snapback]269559[/snapback]
It would seem she has gave birth to a chihuahua, always knew there wasn't something right about that girl.

Pampered dog produces pampered dog-seems about right.
mortonjag 2007-05-11 07:31:58
QUOTE(marx @ May 10 2007, 11:43 PM) [snapback]269492[/snapback]
Not exactly to do with Wembely but I've noticed a lot of red cars suffer this fading effect. Is it particular to red things?

Sorry for going off topic rolleyes.gif

The colour you see is actually a reflection of UV waves. Red paint loses its reflective ability fastest-blue (at the shorter end of the UV spectrum) is much better, and white is best of all.
mortonjag 2007-05-11 07:44:29
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ May 10 2007, 10:27 PM) [snapback]269464[/snapback]
Think i'm gonna head through to Airdrie on saturday to catch the play off final 2nd leg with Stirling. With the scores at 2-2 from the first leg i reckon we could have a cracking game on our hands.

Anyone fancy joining me tongue.gif

If you introduce yourself to nasty Mr Mortonjag, he might buy you a pie and Bovril! Just look for the horns and forked tail-oh and the Ton scarf!

This game is a MUST for anybody who can sympathise with Stirling's fate-having to play off against the higher league's failures.

Airdrie don't play great football, and they tried to kick the Binos off the park on Wednesday. I believe Stirling will do it.
mortonjag 2007-05-11 07:47:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 11 2007, 07:33 AM) [snapback]269564[/snapback]
Gidday Jackie,

Whit's wrong with chihuahuas ?

Are you a canine racist ?

huh.gif

They are a bloody menance-well known for choking rotweilers to death.
mortonjag 2007-05-11 07:49:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 11 2007, 07:36 AM) [snapback]269565[/snapback]
Roy G Biv.

smile.gif

Spectral performance, day in, day out-what a star!
mortonjag 2007-05-11 07:54:44 Is Flatley real or simply a stage name. I've heard of Phil Ately (postman Pat to the unititiated), but I've never met a Mr Flately.

He's a good dancer if you like that sort of thing.
mortonjag 2007-05-11 07:56:28
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 11 2007, 07:53 AM) [snapback]269571[/snapback]
I'm sure there are such animals. A lot of dogs in Grenada will only bark at and bite white people.

Don't you mean white DOGS? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-11 08:01:22
QUOTE(C B @ May 10 2007, 08:42 PM) [snapback]269374[/snapback]
Interesting how most of his favorite and best bits are from this season???

Think the memory may be fading dry.gif

Still an armchair legend !

Does nobody have any old Scotsport footage of the man in action???????

No mention of Benny Rooney but 'has hopes' for JM-you may be correct! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-11 08:04:39
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 11 2007, 07:58 AM) [snapback]269575[/snapback]
I've heard of Phil Atio and Phil McCracken as well.

Yip-Atio's got a long tongue and McCracken's very shallow by all accounts.

Phil Bert's a nut.
mortonjag 2007-05-11 08:07:29
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 11 2007, 08:00 AM) [snapback]269576[/snapback]
Excuse me, I thought we were talking nonsense here.

Oops-mind you I can assure you that certain dogs DO only attack dogs of specific colours. A friend of mine had a placid wee terrier, who went loopy every time he saw a white dog-no matter how big-and tried to maul it. He was fine with all others.
mortonjag 2007-05-11 08:41:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 11 2007, 08:14 AM) [snapback]269580[/snapback]
He was fine with all others.
? ? ? ? ?

With them, he was lover, not a fighter ?

huh.gif huh.gif

Disinterested to the point of disdain I'd say, and he was just a dirty brown terrier of unknown origin!
mortonjag 2007-05-11 08:46:55
QUOTE(shedhead @ May 11 2007, 08:23 AM) [snapback]269582[/snapback]
The problem is that very few abortions are anything to do with an unviable foetus, but are more to do with convenience. The church has to take a stand on behalf of the innocents being murdered.

That is correct, and the wording of the Abortion Acts has always clearly indicated that TOP should only be performed in exceptional circumstances.

It is the unwillingness, or inability of the Church to acknowledge such exceptions which I abhor-that was the whole point of my thread.
mortonjag 2007-05-11 08:54:57
QUOTE(Loveless @ May 10 2007, 08:49 PM) [snapback]269384[/snapback]
The foetus is definately a living human being.

Just as a tadpole is a frog!

A foetus is a living organism which has the potential to develop into a fully formed human being.

I don't condone abortion, but to describe terminating-say a ten week pregnancy- as 'murdering a human being' is arrant nonsense IMO.
mortonjag 2007-05-11 08:57:43
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 11 2007, 08:15 AM) [snapback]269581[/snapback]
And Philip McGlass has got a big red nose.

Phil Y Grey's quite delicate.
mortonjag 2007-05-11 08:59:52
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 11 2007, 08:51 AM) [snapback]269591[/snapback]
No, apparently we're signing Willie Buckfast from Airdrie and Oscar Lanliq from South Africa.

Who does wee Goldie play for?
mortonjag 2007-05-11 09:00:48
QUOTE(ThornTON @ May 11 2007, 08:49 AM) [snapback]269590[/snapback]
anyone know, will the shop be open on saturday at the ghsfp game for dealing with season tickets?

ThornTON's a tout! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-11 09:07:56
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 11 2007, 09:03 AM) [snapback]269597[/snapback]
Wee shagger McConnell has tried and failed to form a coalition with the Tories and the Lib-Dems. Both have told hin to go and f*** !
He tried to form a grand unionist alliance to keep the SNP out laugh.gif
Tut tut tut.....what have the Labour Party turned into ? Keir Hardie will be spinning in his grave sad.gif

'What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander' they say-NOT that I'm suggesting Mr Salmond would dream of forming a coalition with anybody who didn't concur with his every thought. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-11 09:11:41 We need two good goalies-if Mathers goes we're left in the lurch.
mortonjag 2007-05-11 09:17:38
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 11 2007, 09:13 AM) [snapback]269606[/snapback]
Babies

nappies
mortonjag 2007-05-11 09:19:06
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 11 2007, 09:17 AM) [snapback]269609[/snapback]
Dougie swanned in and snatched it and took it to......

wash down with a glass of...
mortonjag 2007-05-11 09:21:00
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 11 2007, 09:18 AM) [snapback]269612[/snapback]
pampers

poodles
mortonjag 2007-05-11 09:29:50
QUOTE(BMC @ May 11 2007, 09:18 AM) [snapback]269611[/snapback]
I think the big issue surrounding this case was not that the young woman was being denied an abortion, which is illegal in Ireland unless the woman's life is at risk, but they where trying to stop her travelling to England, a basic human right.

Secondly we need to wise up a bit on abortion and stop defending the church. Maybe if 'abstinance only' methods weren't still used in our schools and we gave kids the proper information they needed we'd see a drop in young pregnancies.

I'm not surprised about the houlier than thou attitude displayed on here being a male orientated message board but I think the attitude would soon change if the shoe was on the other foot.

I don't often reveal personal details BMC, but you're spot on.

In 1974-fully 33 years ago, I was headhunted to work as a junior partner in a GP practice in Lanarkshire-for ONE AND ONLY ONE reason. I was willing to provide contraceptive services within a group practice whose patients were 95% RC.

The existing three partners were unwilling to be SEEN to do the same, but knew they were missing out heavily on fees for 'family planning'.

I can assure you that within a very short time of joining, I could hardly keep up with the demand, and within the next two years, all three partners had joined me!

I find it incredible that many of those young woman will be grandmothers now. The Church is just 'kidding itself on' IMO.
mortonjag 2007-05-11 09:32:19
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 11 2007, 09:23 AM) [snapback]269616[/snapback]
Jade Goody

jobby
mortonjag 2007-05-11 09:36:50
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 11 2007, 09:35 AM) [snapback]269621[/snapback]
Jabber tongue.gif

Naa, excrement

politics
mortonjag 2007-05-11 10:00:27
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 11 2007, 09:59 AM) [snapback]269624[/snapback]
Boring
[attachment=2889:Yawn.jpg]

drilling
mortonjag 2007-05-11 11:08:59
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 11 2007, 10:16 AM) [snapback]269633[/snapback]
Vimto and then proclaimed....

...I am cured-no longer will I...
mortonjag 2007-05-11 11:14:42
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ May 11 2007, 11:02 AM) [snapback]269654[/snapback]
There are exceptional cases like the one above where, as Loveless said, even hardliners would struggle not to sympathise. Generally I think abortion is wrong, I do however think people should have the choice to make that decision, whether the pontif of a church approves or not. Its more to do with living in a democratic country, religion is a choice not a legal requirement after all. Abortion is meant to be a very scarring experience for a lot of women and I think you'd just have to be a bad person to take it lightly, nothing to do with religion.

-I should also add, I think it is a tough choice for the majority of women. If it were being used as a blase last ditch contraception tool then I think that is what is bad.-

I don't think there is anything "prehistoric" in following the values that your religion has had since day one. That is the strength of any of the the most prominent religions like Christianity and Judaism. Dismissing elements of it as superstition is insulting. Chapel isn't a trip to see an astrologer, it requires faith. You don't have it, you don't go. Its a lot to ask people to believe and thats why so many become disenchanted with it.

What's so commendable about faith? It has NO substance in logical terms. I'm not knocking religion or faith, but IMO the astrologer has a chance of making a prediction based on some evidence, whereas faith is simply blind.
mortonjag 2007-05-11 11:20:34
QUOTE(ThornTON @ May 11 2007, 10:11 AM) [snapback]269629[/snapback]
dawn of the dead

Don Revie
mortonjag 2007-05-11 11:23:06
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 11 2007, 10:40 AM) [snapback]269646[/snapback]
It wouldn't be with the Tories MJ that's a fact. laugh.gif

Probably so, but politics is a dirty game, and I fail to see why the SNP are any better or worse than anybody else, when it comes to intrigue. If they are it must be a first!
mortonjag 2007-05-11 11:25:09
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 11 2007, 10:09 AM) [snapback]269628[/snapback]
Mortonjag and Newton:

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI prefer the two old guys in the back row of the Muppet show-they are a hoot!
mortonjag 2007-05-11 12:35:02
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 11 2007, 11:42 AM) [snapback]269666[/snapback]
have this obsession with pencil shavings. I now have a more healthier obsession with....

steel wool-and iron's good....
mortonjag 2007-05-11 12:45:11
QUOTE(lush @ May 11 2007, 12:42 PM) [snapback]269702[/snapback]
Chris Tarrant.

tarantula
mortonjag 2007-05-11 12:48:08
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ May 11 2007, 12:04 PM) [snapback]269680[/snapback]
I appreciate that you were actually there but Radio Scotland and nearly everyone on P&B, both Airdrie and Stirling fans, agreed that Stirling's diving was disgraceful.

Airdrie set out their stall a la Kenny Black, and Alan Moore tried to capitalise on the thuggery. That's about it IMO.
mortonjag 2007-05-11 12:49:19
QUOTE(lush @ May 11 2007, 12:45 PM) [snapback]269705[/snapback]
Black widow

insurance
mortonjag 2007-05-11 12:50:28
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 11 2007, 12:48 PM) [snapback]269709[/snapback]
playing golf as there would be no shortage of...

irons, but I prefer mine...
mortonjag 2007-05-11 13:11:41
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ May 11 2007, 12:49 PM) [snapback]269711[/snapback]
It is blind faith, yeah. Pure and simple. I think having faith whether in a person who nobody else believes can achieve something, in your own capabilities and how far they can take you or in your religion shows a strength of character. There is a part of Sunday mass called the Creed where you basically state everything about the Catholic church and your faith that you believe in.

If you asked a priest to explain the parts you had trouble with to you I guarantee you it wouldn't seem so illogical. A lot of them nowadays, at local level, not the giddy heights of Vatican City which itself is a state and very, very wealthy, are pretty down to earth. Priests get a few grand a year officially and whatever they make from weddings, funerals, baptisms etc which probably adds up to more than that, very humble people.

I think its a great thing if you can believe in it, if you can't I understand completely, it is a lot to ask of people to keep the faith when so much of it is there for interpretation.

Faith-the substance of things hoped for-the evidence of things not seen, if I recall the Apostle Paul correctly. A wonderful thing as you say for those who can buy into it.
mortonjag 2007-05-11 16:42:49
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 11 2007, 03:01 PM) [snapback]269789[/snapback]
Indeed, the herald report which got tonjag's boxers in a twist also quoted BPAS, a quango as well as the RC and CoS churches. Knowing how journalists work the statements would have been solicited by the journalist in an atttempt to stir shoite- which didn't happen.
As I said, you omitted the CoS contribution. You seem a bit partial, that's what it tells me. As to why you're partial, I have no idea.

The paper's been chucked out Tom, so I can't quote, but what stuck out about the Catholic statement was that unlike the others it was clearly conditional.

IF she goes ahead with the abortion she will have to live with the consequences etc. ...and IF she doesn't... no mention of that.

Fair enough, journalists have a lot to answer for, but it would have been much harder to 'spin' a statement such as-'Our position on abortion is well known, but we are unwilling to comment on individual cases'. That, of course, would have been 'a bridge too far'.
mortonjag 2007-05-11 16:51:19 Ban offside altogether-that would make for some interesting stuff!
mortonjag 2007-05-11 17:08:51
QUOTE(Loveless @ May 11 2007, 04:52 PM) [snapback]269832[/snapback]
Mortonbug, this is the kind of intolerance you have to put up with if you tell people you're religious.

I've met people of all faiths and no faith, and I can say the most aggresive and intolerant people I've come across are athiests, I'm not sure why?

I've got no problem with athiests and would never force my religious beliefs on anyone.

Its always the non-believers trying to push their athiesm on people, usually saying the reason they hate religion is that its forced upon people!

You can't have it both ways Loveless-there are people who 'are religious', as you put it, but they are far from a homogeneous bunch, yet you talk of atheists as though they all come out of the same mould.

Christianity is still far and away the most influential religion in this country, and Christ's whole ethos was about forcing ideas down other people's throats-if you don't believe in him you'll perish, but join the everlasting life club if you will, and go into the world and preach that gospel.

I have no problem whatsoever with religious people who are tolerant of views other than their own, and given my inability to prove or disprove 'God', I'd describe myself as 'agnostic', but could the aggression and intolerance you mention in atheists not be an understandable reaction to the unwillingness of most 'religious' people to concede that THEY might be wrong?
mortonjag 2007-05-11 17:14:43
QUOTE(WillowMan @ May 11 2007, 04:55 PM) [snapback]269837[/snapback]
McGurn must be the No.1 choice for next season.

What's the point in playing a half fit keeper week in / week out.

Mathers allegedly has a serious back problem which troubles him on and off but last season it was more On than Off.

I wonder what his Doctor's advice on that one was wink.gif

...take two paracetamol and 'phone back on Monday morning, I'd imagine. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-11 18:18:08
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 11 2007, 05:51 PM) [snapback]269858[/snapback]
And I tend to get annoyed when people make ill informed f***ing comments about a country they clearly know f*** all about !!!!! You're the second one on this thread alone. Christ on a bike. Or non-existent myth that the masses have been fooled by on a bike - just to keep you atheist f***ers happy.

TonInDublin

TID, the poster was simply suggesting that the law on abortion in Eire is based on Catholic principles.

Lawmakers throughout the ages have relied heavily on religious teaching where moral issues are concerned, and the Catholic Church is the dominant religious force in Ireland.

Surely you're not going to suggest that the current legislation was ever based on common sense! huh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-11 18:21:27
QUOTE(ian clinging @ May 11 2007, 06:10 PM) [snapback]269866[/snapback]
as a catholic i really resent the offensive posts about the "wisdom of the Catholic church in Scotland". Any excuse for a bit of catholic bashing eh lads........

To quote John McEnroe-'You CAN'T be serious'! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-11 18:25:33 Pre season friendlies are ok, but they often lack any real meaning. I always regard the Renfrewshire Cup Final as the first real game of a new season, and OF COURSE nothing but a win is enough!
mortonjag 2007-05-11 18:32:21 stereophonics
mortonjag 2007-05-11 18:38:43
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 11 2007, 04:47 PM) [snapback]269827[/snapback]
Sad. very sad......
Diane Sawyer (a CBS correspondent her ein the States) did a piece on women's prisons, and she spent a night in one of the cells to see what it was like. When she was going into the jail, she was walking through the courtyard with her "gear," as other prisoners would, while on her way to her cell. There was a short conversation that ensued:

Prisoner (to Diane): "Are you gay?"
Diane: "No."
Prisoner: "Well, you will be when you leave here." blink.gif

Considering that Paris had pictures of her on her cell phone that showed her kissing another woman (remember when her phone was hacked in to?), I think she's fit in quite nicely. wink.gif

As far as her "bricking it," she was fotographed hysterically crying in her limo when she was leaving the courthouse after getting sentenced.
Sure, Donga, I "rate" her....I "rate" her as the most useless, disgusting skank in the world. if her family didn't have money, she's be just another worthless, annoying Valley Girl.

"Oh, mah gaaawwwwd.....like, totally!"

Skank's not a word we use here Trick, but I gather it refers to sexual promiscuity (real or perceived), AND to low socio-economic class.

Ms Hilton eponymously escapes the latter category, though she's undoubtedly a high quality slut. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-11 18:43:12
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 11 2007, 06:41 PM) [snapback]269880[/snapback]
We do use skank, Jack Jarvis Esq.

Who are you? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-11 18:46:05
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 11 2007, 06:44 PM) [snapback]269883[/snapback]
The voice of the people my old friend.

I thought that was Colkitto! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-11 18:57:38 Just curious!
mortonjag 2007-05-11 19:24:33 echobelly
mortonjag 2007-05-11 19:27:45
QUOTE(AJCTON @ May 11 2007, 07:24 PM) [snapback]269899[/snapback]
bang on, no way we'd want to loose anything to the scum bags up the road not even a game of tiddley winks, f**k that. it gives the c**ts something to brag about. look forward to beating them in the first next season though.
mortonjag 2007-05-11 19:31:04
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 11 2007, 07:28 PM) [snapback]269901[/snapback]
Well, if you don't fancy me, what do you two fat old poofs look for in a man?

Holy sh*t?
mortonjag 2007-05-11 19:33:35
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ May 11 2007, 07:31 PM) [snapback]269905[/snapback]
'pooves'

pouffes Monsieur!
mortonjag 2007-05-11 19:57:07
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 11 2007, 07:39 PM) [snapback]269912[/snapback]
Answer

goose
mortonjag 2007-05-11 20:05:24
QUOTE(NonTon @ May 11 2007, 07:46 PM) [snapback]269916[/snapback]
Do you think we can never know if there's a god, or that we can't make a conclusion right now? What do you think the chances are of there being one (or more)?

It's a very thorny road-the religious debate. I was brought up in a religious environment, but by the age of fourteen had begun to seriously question most of what I was told to believe.

If anyone can give me a definition of 'GOD'- that will be a starting point for logical debate-until then, to quote Dave Allen, 'May your God go with you'.
mortonjag 2007-05-11 20:11:44
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 11 2007, 08:02 PM) [snapback]269933[/snapback]
I'm not the one professing to be the model socialist. rolleyes.gif

As it happens I do of course agree to equality for all, with the possibile exception of mutant, hypocritical, wanabee socialist, plastic paddies. laugh.gif

They make polythene papes? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-11 20:13:29
QUOTE(standman @ May 11 2007, 07:47 PM) [snapback]269918[/snapback]
I feel McGurn prevents more goals so on that basis if Mathers stays I hope it is as number two.

Sometimes he's sh*t hot.
mortonjag 2007-05-11 20:16:55
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 11 2007, 08:02 PM) [snapback]269934[/snapback]
Yazoo

ozric tentacles
mortonjag 2007-05-11 20:19:00
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 11 2007, 08:17 PM) [snapback]269946[/snapback]
Stranglers

shawaddywaddy
mortonjag 2007-05-11 20:21:40
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 11 2007, 07:59 PM) [snapback]269928[/snapback]
You got something against mutants monsieur ? What about equality for them ?

Vive la difference!
mortonjag 2007-05-11 20:23:38
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 11 2007, 07:42 PM) [snapback]269914[/snapback]
I'm not homophobic,.... I'm just a bit uncomfortable with you grading me against the men you usually go for.

I won't ask you to embarrass me with posting a picture of yourself, right enough. I'm sure you're a regular adonis rolleyes.gif

... I just can't tolerate jobby jabbers! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-11 20:26:39
QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 11 2007, 08:24 PM) [snapback]269955[/snapback]
Did you SEE her world class blow-job?

I've the full, unedited version of One Night In Paris if you want a copy?

Only turn off with her is she has small tits and is your run of the mill, coveyor belt blonde.

rolleyes.gif

...and presumably they have to speed it up when Bob's on the job!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-11 20:30:07
QUOTE(NonTon @ May 11 2007, 08:25 PM) [snapback]269956[/snapback]
I would go with "a sentient being that created the universe" but most religions would add things like "all-knowing" or "all-loving" or "intervenes specifically with human affairs".

That's the bog standard one-the concept of requiring a 'creator' which did not require creation is illogical for me.
mortonjag 2007-05-11 20:33:25
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ May 11 2007, 08:30 PM) [snapback]269972[/snapback]
ub40

OMD
mortonjag 2007-05-11 20:35:48
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 11 2007, 08:33 PM) [snapback]269976[/snapback]
Unfortunately they do, as Eric Bogle opined ....

He's just a Plastic Paddy, singin' Plastic Paddy songs
In a Plastic Paddy pub that they call The Blarny Stone
There's plastic shamrocks everywhere, there's Guinness and green beer
And a sign in gaelic above the bar which says "God Bless All Here"

His guitar sounds like a wardrobe, and it's out of tune at that
His singin' voice it ranges from a sharp to a flat
He's just desecrated "The Holy Ground", ripped apart "Black Velvet Band"
Sang seven drunken nights and now he's sunk "The Irish Rover" with all hands

'Cause he's just a Plastic Paddy, singin' Plastic Paddy songs
in a Plastic Paddy pub that they call The Blarny Stone
The publican's a proddy Scot by the name of McIntyre
Who does not allow collections for the men behind the wire

He's done awful things to "Molly Malone" and "The Farrows of Tralee"
He's murdered "Carrickfergus" and poor old "Mother Machree"
He's just thrashed his way through "Galway Bay" and "The Wild Irish Rose"
and if he starts singing "Danny Boy", I'm gonna punch him in the nose!

He's just a Plastic Paddy, singin' Plastic Paddy songs
in a Plastic Paddy pub that they call The Blarny Stone
There's Aer Lingus posters everywhere showing pretty Irish scenes
all peaceful and idyllic, and very bloody green!

"When Irish Eyes are Smiling" and "The Mountains of Mourne"
In the search for Celtic cliches, the man has left no stone unturned
'Til he embarks upon the harp that once raced through terraced halls
Accompanying himself on the Bodhran, which takes a lot of balls


'Cause he's just a Plastic Paddy, singin' Plastic Paddy songs
in a Plastic Paddy pub that they call The Blarny Stone
Now he's just sung in his mother tongue, "The Ancient Irish Curse"
and cleared the pub completely by the forty-second verse!

'Cause he's just a Plastic Paddy, singin' Plastic Paddy songs
He's started singin' "Danny Boy", so it's time that I was gone
and just one thought comes to my mind, as I stagger through the door
Where are you when we need you, Christy Moore?
My thoughts exactly Eric, my thoughts exactly !!!!!

TonInDublin

Excellent! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-11 20:40:07
QUOTE(DongaTon @ May 11 2007, 08:35 PM) [snapback]269980[/snapback]
Lovely big round boobies and a curvy arse from heaven, that's my preference. I'm one lucky bass!

Tied on with a pink ribbon?
mortonjag 2007-05-11 20:41:54
QUOTE(AJCTON @ May 11 2007, 08:17 PM) [snapback]269947[/snapback]
god would like to wish someone well but christ knows who it is.

..the child is father of the man..
mortonjag 2007-05-11 20:43:58 preferably female ones
mortonjag 2007-05-11 20:50:58
QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 11 2007, 08:41 PM) [snapback]269996[/snapback]
Can someone take my tits out?

....she cried in desperation as the lift doors slid relentlessly together.
mortonjag 2007-05-11 20:53:53
QUOTE(DongaTon @ May 11 2007, 08:50 PM) [snapback]270015[/snapback]
Niggaz With Attitude

echo and the bunnymen
mortonjag 2007-05-11 20:58:07
QUOTE(DongaTon @ May 11 2007, 08:54 PM) [snapback]270022[/snapback]
No Doubt

tangerine dream
mortonjag 2007-05-11 21:02:39
QUOTE(Mr.Kennedy @ May 11 2007, 09:01 PM) [snapback]270030[/snapback]
Alien Ant Farm

manic street preachers
mortonjag 2007-05-11 21:04:30
QUOTE(DongaTon @ May 11 2007, 09:02 PM) [snapback]270033[/snapback]
I heard their menstruation attracts bears!

You hear that? BEARS!!!

Bloody rubbish
mortonjag 2007-05-11 21:05:59
QUOTE(DongaTon @ May 11 2007, 09:03 PM) [snapback]270036[/snapback]
Sugababes

sonic youth
mortonjag 2007-05-11 21:15:27
QUOTE(DongaTon @ May 11 2007, 09:06 PM) [snapback]270044[/snapback]
Helloween.

new order
mortonjag 2007-05-11 21:21:41 Arsene wengers arsenal hump sc***horpe

sw**ky froggy arsehole

his wife says he's really a p***y

shuttlec***

jesus f***in' christ-this IS unbelievable.
mortonjag 2007-05-12 06:13:45
QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 11 2007, 08:50 PM) [snapback]270013[/snapback]
Couldn't give a s*** about it and I cringe the way an element of our support cream themselves at the thought of winning it.

It shows a slight inferiority complex imo as the Skunks care far less than we do.

A few of my St Mirren mates from Largs never miss a game home or away yet have never been to a RC match in their lives.

Still a good piss up and I never pass up the opportunity.

I now understand the reason for the abysmal turn out to last year's final! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-12 06:19:27
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 11 2007, 10:15 PM) [snapback]270113[/snapback]
You had to edit that post?

I wonder what you had to remove unsure.gif

I chose to edit the post in order to highlight a word, Aquinas! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-12 06:27:57
QUOTE(marx @ May 12 2007, 01:55 AM) [snapback]270231[/snapback]
Advertising

Hoarding
mortonjag 2007-05-12 06:37:41
QUOTE(NonTon @ May 11 2007, 08:41 PM) [snapback]269999[/snapback]
Yeah, that one gets me too. My opinion is that yes, we don't know how the big bang happened or how life arose, but that's the scientists jobs to work out. Even on the off chance that there's a creator I think they would be very different to the traditional God.

Very few people can get their heads round the concept of perpetuity. Why is it necessary for everything to have STARTED? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-12 06:42:43
QUOTE(alexp @ May 12 2007, 02:50 AM) [snapback]270262[/snapback]
guns n roses

seekers
mortonjag 2007-05-12 06:58:06
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 12 2007, 01:39 AM) [snapback]270221[/snapback]
What a puerile statement.

How many come to YOUR country for an abortion from Ireland. Answer - about 7000 a year. Oh, and by the way it's NOT legal, because the laws of this country deem non life threatening (to the mother) abortions to be illegal.

I certainly don't want YOUR (it used to be mine as well) country to be either English or Irish - don't mix religion, bigotry and sectarianism to suit your inane response. And by the same token don't make assumptions about my country of residence when you know shag all about it, or it's laws, or it's judicial system. For the record, one more fécking time, nobody stopped the girl travelling for the abortion you so sanctimoniously called for in the spirit of your enlightenment and morals - they CHALLENGED it - and in a court of law the good and the wise declared she could follow that path without breaking the laws of this country.

Please stick to making commentary on those matters you are expert on, namely YOUR country.

For me, I will do the same. As per my complete distancing from the whole Scottish election stuff.
Not there, no vote, no right to comment - simple stuff.

But I didn't try and justify my input on it based on someone trying to turn my country into another country,
or some other Machiavellian reason I just made up to suit an obviously biased input. Women should decide for themselves what they want to do with their bodies and their own unique circumstances - within the confines of what is legal in their country. The laws of each country are there to be enacted - not for you to choose which ones you think are OK.

And just for the record like, so we're straight ....... the Catholic church worldwide, not just in Ireland, turned a blind eye to the Nazis, as per your lead in comment, though where that comes from, or the relevance of it, f*** only knows. Similarly, the British government and by default the COE denied for the most part the existence of the death camps until they stumbled on them. Remember the motto on the German Army's belt ? Gott Mit Uns. God Is With Us. He's always on someone's side apparently. Was the killing of about fifteen million germans, soldiers and civilians, immoral as well or is it insignificant cos the good guys won ? (rhetorical question by the way) - all death is tragic to those who loved or were loved.

But using your moral compass, ... where do you stand on the fact that YOUR country is now killing tens of thousands of innocents in an illegal war that YOUR leaders lied to you about and YOU as a nation have done f*** all to change. Total estimated loss of non combatant life in Iraq approaching 250,000 - if we believe US figures 100,000 - do they matter less than the Jews, or gypsies or the ethnic groups YOU mentioned or even the thousands of unborn children who are aborted ?

Are you doing anything about it ? Do you care ?

Thought not.

As ever, my one request ..... before you make up your mind, open it.

TonInDublin

I believe it was the young woman who had to do the challenging. She was praised by the judge for her courage and integrity in doing so, and an exception was made to the norm.
mortonjag 2007-05-12 07:06:37
QUOTE(Loveless @ May 12 2007, 02:11 AM) [snapback]270235[/snapback]
Haha probably comes with years of misery the job brings, apparently its got one of the highest suicide rates as a profession.

Oh well!

Really-I'm gobsmacked-those ultra rich Porsche driving tooth mechanics actually endure a miserable existence! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-12 07:09:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 12 2007, 04:49 AM) [snapback]270284[/snapback]
A mother who claimed her infant son had his genitals severed in an attack by the family dachshund in March was arrested by Houston police on Friday while waiting for a custody hearing in the case.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=266784
What is the world coming to ?
sad.gif sad.gif

I smell a sausage.
mortonjag 2007-05-12 07:11:45
QUOTE(ThornTON @ May 12 2007, 06:29 AM) [snapback]270289[/snapback]

frugal
mortonjag 2007-05-12 07:22:37 I mainly use the forum as a form of recreation-often I get quite heated about things which I believe to be important, either concerning the Ton or otherwise.

Generally, however, I'm just on for a good laugh, but have still received two threats in PM's from folk who 'took me the wrong way'.

Mortonjag is in fact a pretty contented old codger who gets on well with everybody in real life! smile.gif

Which of you are too serious, which are the total 'piss takers', and how many hide behind multiple identities I wonder? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-12 07:30:42
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 12 2007, 07:18 AM) [snapback]270297[/snapback]
Sharkey rolleyes.gif

Whaley
mortonjag 2007-05-12 07:31:19
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 12 2007, 07:19 AM) [snapback]270298[/snapback]
Sweet

Travis
mortonjag 2007-05-12 07:32:44
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 12 2007, 07:27 AM) [snapback]270300[/snapback]
Only 2 ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

laugh.gif

Only two IN PM'S-hunners an' hunners on the forum! cool.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-12 07:35:08
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 12 2007, 07:32 AM) [snapback]270303[/snapback]
In my experience bottled beer is never value for money, i mean 70p for what is really a half pint (or just over).

stick to cans, i usually buy the tesco lager £6.56 for 12 cans, that works out about 53p for a 500ml can. biggrin.gif

Morrison's sparkling water is 18p for two litres, and much better for you I'm led to believe! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-12 07:36:40
QUOTE(ThornTON @ May 12 2007, 06:27 AM) [snapback]270287[/snapback]
on a monday unsure.gif that's usually reserved for the last game of the tour, be it highland or england...

we must be going earlier this year.

Slightly off beam, but Stenny have released Steven Aitken.
mortonjag 2007-05-12 07:37:36
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 12 2007, 07:37 AM) [snapback]270308[/snapback]
Skunk anansie

ELO
mortonjag 2007-05-12 07:41:27
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 12 2007, 07:33 AM) [snapback]270305[/snapback]
Fishy

Dishy
mortonjag 2007-05-12 07:44:27
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 12 2007, 07:39 AM) [snapback]270310[/snapback]
Sparkling water is s***e though, if i want to drink water i've got planty of taps in my house,

I used to buy into that too until I discovered that our tap water is NOT always as pure as you'd imagine-especially since the water utilities were privatised. It's fine for cooking and making tea but the stuff up here in Glasgow is vile to the taste.
mortonjag 2007-05-12 07:45:24
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 12 2007, 07:40 AM) [snapback]270311[/snapback]
OMD

depeche mode
mortonjag 2007-05-12 07:46:14
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 12 2007, 07:43 AM) [snapback]270314[/snapback]
Plate (y) smile.gif

Bowly
mortonjag 2007-05-12 07:47:32
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 12 2007, 07:42 AM) [snapback]270313[/snapback]
I think you should name & shame the senders.

They know who they are and it's been sorted! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-12 08:02:44
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 12 2007, 07:57 AM) [snapback]270324[/snapback]
Send the heavies round did you ?

I believe nach0 secretly attends weight watchers! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-12 08:05:50
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 12 2007, 07:54 AM) [snapback]270321[/snapback]
Fair enough, but everything in glasgow is vile, surely you get used to it ? wink.gif

I agree-it's MUCH too near Skunkville to escape the influence. I've lived in Glasgow for the last twenty five years, but still consider myself a Greenockian.

Mind you I'll get my usual curry tonight-NOBODY beats Glesca for curries!
mortonjag 2007-05-12 08:07:15
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Extreme

eminem
mortonjag 2007-05-12 08:07:59
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soup

spoonsy
mortonjag 2007-05-12 08:09:38
QUOTE(ThornTON @ May 12 2007, 06:44 AM) [snapback]270292[/snapback]
3 and 4 are both applicable, will go for 3 though, as I would consider myself Protestant if asked in a serious context (in an application form/hospital so they don't send a priest sort of way)

Why not belt AND braces! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-12 08:14:19
QUOTE(WullTon @ May 9 2007, 03:07 PM) [snapback]268600[/snapback]
Broadfoot , Millen and does Colin Hardie count laugh.gif

No-he's illiterate, and innumerate, but has muscular fingers.
mortonjag 2007-05-12 08:19:01
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Muse

eurhythmics
mortonjag 2007-05-12 08:19:46
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Knifey

forky
mortonjag 2007-05-12 08:24:33
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Steps

sex pistols
mortonjag 2007-05-12 08:27:45
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Squeeze

ebonys child
mortonjag 2007-05-12 08:29:04
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 12 2007, 08:24 AM) [snapback]270339[/snapback]
stabby

bloody
mortonjag 2007-05-12 08:35:49 Am I correct in saying you can still be penalised for 'dangerous play' if you try to head a lowish ball as an opponent is going for it with his boot?

I always thought that rule was as daft as the guys who fell foul of it.
mortonjag 2007-05-12 08:44:35
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 12 2007, 08:31 AM) [snapback]270343[/snapback]
Good stuff MJ, at last someone clued in. You are right of course. she challenged it AFTER the HSE already won their case in court when they challenged the court system to prevent her from travelling on the grounds she would harm the unborn baby. So you are correct in your analysis. The higher court then decided that the intial ruling to prevent her travelling was unconstitutional and obviously she was allowed to leave the country.

In Ireland it has raised some excellent points which need to be resolved, and unfortuantely for the politicians, with General Election in the next two weeks, these are points they don't treally like getting drawn into, namely should abortion be legalised.

The pressing issues I think need addressing are ;

1) abortion is legal if the mother's health is at risk - should that health risk be extended to include mental anguish and stress, which there clearly was for the poor girl in this case

2) should the health argument be extended to include the health of the baby (as in this case) ie where it's patently obvious the child is going to die anyway and can have no quality of life should the law encompass that as well

As I said, I am neither pro nor anti abortion. To each their own. But I will stand by my comment that in the UK and a lot of other countries, it is far too easily available. I actually like the fact that in Ireland the choice to abort is not a simple one. It forces long and hard introspection by the affected parties before making the right choice for them.

TonInDublin

In the UK the rules governing termination of pregnancy are actually very strict. The problem lies not with our legislation but with the laissez faire interpretation placed on it by doctors, who in fairness, come under immense pressure from those who often need a convenient substitute for contraception.

I'm one of the old school, and I don't buy into the 'a woman can do whatever she wants-it's her body' argument, nor for that matter the idea of 'immaculate conception'!

It IS still possible to keep ones legs shut.
mortonjag 2007-05-12 08:46:47
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 12 2007, 08:45 AM) [snapback]270348[/snapback]
Del Amitri

ivy league (if anybody can remember them)
mortonjag 2007-05-12 08:47:28
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 12 2007, 08:46 AM) [snapback]270349[/snapback]
Mary

Joseph
mortonjag 2007-05-12 08:50:20
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Jesus

Christ
mortonjag 2007-05-12 08:52:37
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Embace

echobelly
mortonjag 2007-05-12 08:53:40
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 12 2007, 08:51 AM) [snapback]270360[/snapback]
Almighty

God
mortonjag 2007-05-12 08:56:31
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 12 2007, 08:44 AM) [snapback]270347[/snapback]
NOBODY[/b] beats Glesca for curries!

May I suggest you try Nadi in Fiji or Homebush here in Sydney.

Large Indian population and [b]food that is YUMMY.[/b]

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NewTon is a cannibal-that explains much! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-12 08:57:56
QUOTE(lush @ May 12 2007, 08:55 AM) [snapback]270365[/snapback]
Yazoo

OMD
mortonjag 2007-05-12 08:58:35
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Offspring

genesis
mortonjag 2007-05-12 08:59:29
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 12 2007, 08:58 AM) [snapback]270371[/snapback]
Myth

Mythith
mortonjag 2007-05-12 09:02:10
QUOTE(lush @ May 12 2007, 09:01 AM) [snapback]270376[/snapback]
Smiths

status quo
mortonjag 2007-05-12 09:06:54
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 12 2007, 09:01 AM) [snapback]270375[/snapback]
You are more than welcome to your opinion Lush - all I'm pointing out is that in this case there was nothing shocking done to anyone, nothing controversial invoked or any underhandedness - the HSE authorities in Ireland merely invoked the law as it stands, just as they are chartered to, and just as they should.

The fact that some people, including your good self (and many others who are perfectly entitled to their opinion) think that this is wrong is not relevant. It's the law as it stands so it's not an option to ignore it.

So it's not shocking, it's the law. Now the content of the law might be repugnant to you, and in that case it might well be shocking for your own moral and emotional beliefs, but for the majority of Irish people they are happy with the law. So to each their own.

Remember that divorce in ireland was only made legal in the last ten years, and even then after a referendum, and even then only the tiniest majority voted in favour of it. Different strokes for different folks. The Irish moral compass is set to a much different setting than it's UK counterpart. Again, that's neither good, nor bad, it's just different.

TonInDublin

Beautifully put, and of course 'true' North is non existent.
mortonjag 2007-05-12 09:11:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 12 2007, 09:07 AM) [snapback]270383[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

I could never be a serious cannibal.

It's a health hazard!!

I saw a documentary on New Guinea cannibals and they were dying of a disease of the nervous system, similar to mad cow disease.

However, if I had been on that flight of rugby players, who crashed in the Andes, then needs must.

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

I diagnosed that in my Mother in Law the first time I set eyes on her.
mortonjag 2007-05-12 09:21:46
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 12 2007, 09:09 AM) [snapback]270385[/snapback]
Please, do NOT get me started on that one !!!!!! sad.gif

First hand experience and all that.

TonInDublin

I thought I was a good judge of character. The divorce was to be an amicable affair with no blame apportioned either way. My disposable income received an unexpected fillip, and ohmy.gif mad.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-12 09:25:16
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 12 2007, 09:01 AM) [snapback]270374[/snapback]
Gibberish

monkeyspeak
mortonjag 2007-05-12 09:28:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 12 2007, 09:14 AM) [snapback]270392[/snapback]
Was she your mother in law at the time ??

tongue.gif

In her eyes-YES, and it just got worse-I've nothing against Mothers in Law-honestly, but mine WAS a complete nut job.
mortonjag 2007-05-12 09:31:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 12 2007, 09:18 AM) [snapback]270394[/snapback]
naw - the dachshund was a vegetarian.

Talking of Dachshunds, my partner's desperately keen to buy a pup, and that's the breed she fancies. I think they look utterly ridiculous-she can have anything that looks half normal (well she copes with me), but an animated sausage on pygmy pins-NO WAY! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-12 09:33:32
QUOTE(se65an @ May 12 2007, 09:30 AM) [snapback]270402[/snapback]
monkeysay

monkeypole
mortonjag 2007-05-12 09:35:02
QUOTE(lush @ May 12 2007, 09:08 AM) [snapback]270384[/snapback]
Souixe and the Banshees. (sp)?

supremes
mortonjag 2007-05-12 09:37:14
QUOTE(Capuan @ May 12 2007, 08:54 AM) [snapback]270364[/snapback]
Where did u get that info from?

According to the St.Mirren website it's £20 for an adult

Only £10 to get in at Airdrie-good car park, and half decent pie and Bovril.
mortonjag 2007-05-12 09:41:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 12 2007, 09:37 AM) [snapback]270409[/snapback]
KURU, A CANNIBAL DISEASE:

The real breakthrough for understanding Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease occurred in 1957 with the discovery of a curious degenerative brain disease of cannibals. Certain Fore tribes of Papua, New Guinea were inflicted with a disease called Kuru - the trembling with fear.

This disease manifested itself as a fatal disease with an onset and duration that lasted usually 1 year.

To date there have been 2500+ cases reported in these relatively small villages with an occurrence of at least 1% of the population.

It was prevalent in women and children but rarely affected adult males.

The terminal stage of this brain disease was marked by total dementia, muteness, inability to move, ataxia (jerkiness of the muscles), dysarthria, dysphagia and death.

Kuru was determined to be linked to the ritual cannibalism that was practiced by these tribes.

The brains of the elders were ritually prepared and eaten by the women and children, but seldom by the men.

This endocannibalism was outlawed by the authorities of New Guinea and now the disease is slowly disappearing.

There are still cases appearing due to the extreme incubation periods of the disease -exceeding 30 years in some instances.

Kuru was successfully passed to chimpanzees in 1966 by intracerebral injection of brain specimens.

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This disease however, was not passed maternally or by mother's milk which was determined by very careful epidemiological studies.

Further studies have even determined the exact cannibal feast that resulted in the transmission to certain victims.

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

A suggested link to a bizarre disease of sheep (scrapie) was proposed in 1959 and ultimately lead to the path of understanding for Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease.

Pandemic of Kuru in Motherwell this afternoon then!
mortonjag 2007-05-12 09:42:18
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 12 2007, 09:38 AM) [snapback]270411[/snapback]
Zoo

keeper
mortonjag 2007-05-12 09:44:18
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 12 2007, 09:22 AM) [snapback]270396[/snapback]
Like STV, another pro-Labour media outlet

Paranoia is sometimes curable.
mortonjag 2007-05-12 09:45:36
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 12 2007, 09:31 AM) [snapback]270403[/snapback]
You's and yer wii wii's tongue.gif

WTF'S A WII WII? huh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-12 09:46:26
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 12 2007, 09:44 AM) [snapback]270416[/snapback]
game

leg
mortonjag 2007-05-12 09:51:00
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 12 2007, 09:43 AM) [snapback]270414[/snapback]
Have to wait in for a BT Engineer to come and fix my f***ing phoneline thats been knackered since last sunday. I can get broadband through no problem, had to redirect the house number to our mobile.

BT = Arseholes

They totally f*cked up on our broadband installation-customer services and complaints procedures are fragmented, and you end up speaking to guys in an Indian call centre. I eventually wrote to their chief exec. and got £150 compensation, and still have a buckshee brand new 'home hub'.
mortonjag 2007-05-12 09:53:20
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 12 2007, 09:47 AM) [snapback]270419[/snapback]
This disease manifested itself as a fatal disease with an onset and [b]duration that lasted usually 1 year. [/b]

Would it be compassionate to have infected Skunks put to sleep ?

To save them another year of suffering ?

huh.gif

If you mean slaughtered-yes.
mortonjag 2007-05-12 09:58:16
QUOTE(nach0king @ May 11 2007, 09:19 PM) [snapback]270075[/snapback]
I'll have a wee BBQ if the weather clears up.

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-12 10:03:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 12 2007, 10:00 AM) [snapback]270423[/snapback]
10 am, mortonjag, time to pack for Motherwell, mate.

No need-the timing device will do the trick nicely-never liked that Molepiss either! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-12 10:09:40 I've been reading the thread again-we're a nasty bunch-I can actually feel sorry for that poor child-that's all she is really-she doesn't know any better, and her parents have a HELLUVALOT to answer for. laugh.gif

mortonjag 2007-05-12 10:12:57
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 12 2007, 10:09 AM) [snapback]270429[/snapback]
Sixpence none the richer (one hit wonders)

rondelles
mortonjag 2007-05-12 10:13:40
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 12 2007, 10:07 AM) [snapback]270427[/snapback]
Less

mower
mortonjag 2007-05-12 10:20:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 12 2007, 10:16 AM) [snapback]270435[/snapback]
Saint

meringue
mortonjag 2007-05-12 10:21:49
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 12 2007, 10:15 AM) [snapback]270434[/snapback]
Shiralees (sp)

slade
mortonjag 2007-05-12 10:25:49
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 12 2007, 10:25 AM) [snapback]270439[/snapback]
cake

candle
mortonjag 2007-05-12 10:28:36
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 12 2007, 10:24 AM) [snapback]270438[/snapback]
Echo & the bunnymen

nine inch nails
mortonjag 2007-05-12 10:29:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 12 2007, 10:25 AM) [snapback]270441[/snapback]
cherry

stone
mortonjag 2007-05-12 10:36:00
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ May 12 2007, 01:16 AM) [snapback]270195[/snapback]
i thought you had to be part of a sect to be a sectarian. or can you be sectarian by just disliking a sect? jeez. i literally scratched my head there. honest.

So sectarians are insects? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-12 10:46:05
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 12 2007, 10:39 AM) [snapback]270450[/snapback]
s***house

cludge
mortonjag 2007-05-12 10:47:20
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 12 2007, 10:39 AM) [snapback]270449[/snapback]
Subways

stiff little fingers
mortonjag 2007-05-12 10:47:57
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 12 2007, 10:47 AM) [snapback]270456[/snapback]
dirty

midden
mortonjag 2007-05-12 10:48:47
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 12 2007, 10:48 AM) [snapback]270459[/snapback]
Sleeper

reo speedwagon
mortonjag 2007-05-12 10:49:29
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 12 2007, 10:48 AM) [snapback]270461[/snapback]
rubbish

bin
mortonjag 2007-05-12 10:51:47
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 12 2007, 10:49 AM) [snapback]270463[/snapback]
Nirvana

A house
mortonjag 2007-05-12 10:52:29
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 12 2007, 10:50 AM) [snapback]270464[/snapback]
Bag

Goldie
mortonjag 2007-05-12 17:28:31
QUOTE(Harper McGhee @ May 12 2007, 05:07 PM) [snapback]270870[/snapback]
Agreed. I know its sticks in the craw but the Skunkies pulled it out of the bag when required, so well done.

However a really big well done to the Binos. Justice has been done despite them having to play 4 extra games. Get rid of this play-off circus once and for all SFL.

Despite my sentiments above well done Billy Stark and the the Spiders. He seems to have got things going there.

Indeed-just back-Stirling thoroughly deserved it, and Airdrie deserve division 2. Sorry for Arbroath though Queens really came good in the end. The play off fiasco must end now.
mortonjag 2007-05-12 17:32:35
QUOTE(arklesTON @ May 12 2007, 12:31 PM) [snapback]270492[/snapback]
Mortonjug,

which part of Glasgow are you referring to?

Tapwater in Govan was the nicest ive tasted yet, i miss it since i moved away from the town.

It was crap in Partick, Hyndland, and now Shawlands, Narky-years ago Glasgow had a reputation for pure and wholesome drinking water-ain't the case now I'm afraid.
mortonjag 2007-05-12 17:54:12
QUOTE(mortonjag @ May 11 2007, 12:40 PM) [snapback]269700[/snapback]
You can interpret it to your taste just as I've done!

As for the 'Holy Roman' bit telling you all you need to know- I despise ALL 'Holy Willies'. This lot just happen to be Roman Catholic, so what did it tell you Tom? Go on-spill the beans! smile.gif

FAO Mr Clingon

While I await the departure of Nach0's visitors, to be followed no doubt by mine from the forum, laugh.gif , I invite you to read the WHOLE thread again. 'Plastic Paddies' was a quotation from a poem which TID used, and my rejoinder was so obviously in jest that even an infant would have seen that (and the Smiley).

Furthermore, if you care to read all of my posts on the thread, instead of selectively deepening the chip on your shoulder, you'll realise that I despise all forms of religious zealotry.

The truth appears to be that you DO object to the original post despite your protestations to the contrary.

It may have missed your attention that it has sparked a lively, healthy, and at times entertaining debate, with input from all angles.

For the avoidance of confusion, however, and in order than you can untwist your knickers and enjoy your Saturday evening, I assure you that nothing I have written on this thread was intended to cause offence.

By all means continue with your crusade against sectarianism and bigotry, but please try to hit the proper targets in future.
mortonjag 2007-05-12 18:34:32
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ May 12 2007, 06:27 PM) [snapback]270930[/snapback]
Ditto TID's comments and have no other aliases.

What's grey and powdery?
instant elephant

What's black and powdery?































































Non white powder
mortonjag 2007-05-12 18:35:56
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 12 2007, 06:09 PM) [snapback]270923[/snapback]
hurts

hertz
mortonjag 2007-05-12 18:39:49
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ May 12 2007, 05:49 PM) [snapback]270908[/snapback]
duno if this is true, just heard that lennon was making a speech at the end of the celtic game, and was being booed by the dons fans, he stopped turned round and said something along the lines of 'if the sheepshaggers would just give me a minute' and then gave a GIRUY sign! if true the man is a legend! laugh.gif

If it's true he's gone up 200% in my estimation. No matter what you may think of the guy, he should have been allowed to say his party piece before leaving, and at least his comments had a modicum of wit, unlike the animal noises coming from elsewhere.
mortonjag 2007-05-12 18:44:22
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 12 2007, 06:42 PM) [snapback]270937[/snapback]
Nah Tonjag, as I've said elsewhere I don't think that you're sectarian.

A troll, quite possibly wink.gif

Falling for the easy "let's bash the kaffliks" , mibbies unsure.gif Though I doubt that you dress up like some. wink.gif
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mortonjag 2007-05-12 18:48:29
QUOTE(DongaTon @ May 12 2007, 06:46 PM) [snapback]270941[/snapback]
Nah, well done to the Midden - that was a tremendous comeback, they've shown guts and deserve to stay up.

...and we can swap places next year!
mortonjag 2007-05-12 18:50:24
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ May 12 2007, 06:43 PM) [snapback]270939[/snapback]
^private pile

Hermit Haemorrhoid
mortonjag 2007-05-12 18:59:14 Just off to pick up a chicken Masaledar and a lamb Dopiaza-the 'other half' always has her Masaledar on a Saturday night, but I have five or six favourites.

What's yours?
mortonjag 2007-05-13 06:50:39
QUOTE(Cawston @ May 13 2007, 12:51 AM) [snapback]271162[/snapback]
Benny Hill

milkman
mortonjag 2007-05-13 07:02:44
QUOTE(arklesTON @ May 12 2007, 07:21 PM) [snapback]270954[/snapback]
Good call sir.

I love a good curry. I like a Chicken Balti with extra chillies, Boiled Rice and Naan with a freezing cold Heineken. Always a sucker for a bag of mixed Pakora on the side too.

Nicest Indian Restaurant ive been to recently was the India Quay near the SECC, where I got a Chicken Sharabi, which was a very rich and beautiful tasting Garlic/Tomato/Brandy/Chilli dish. I got the nicest ever Peshwari Naan there too which i ordered as an accompaniment to my main course but was so sweet and tasty i ordered some lovely Movenpick Vanilla Ice Cream for afters and was dipping into that too. Sooperb. biggrin.gif
Out of interest, what are your other favourites?
Ps. I'll bet about half a dozen posts later someone will tell us they like Curry Sauce 'n' chips from the Orangefield Chippy. What do you think?

biggrin.gif Mind you it's harder to find a decent curry house in a provincial town than the city.

It's not so much what I like as I'm a greedy pig, but I always tend to go for the more spicy rather than the sweet, mild, and or creamy ones.

Karahi Chicken with saag

Special Chicken Curry Madras strength (it's in a spinach base)

Any dopiaza

Jaipuri-usually lamb

Parsee chicken masala

Chicken Achari


et al!

Turban Tandoori-Station Rd., Giffnock-it's been the same family there for almost thirty years, and the reputation's always remained good. A wee bit pricey, but 20% reduction if you go and pick up the order, and as often as not they chuck in a buckshee carton of curry sauce.
mortonjag 2007-05-13 07:10:18 [quote name='nach0king' date='May 12 2007, 09:40 PM' post='271053']
I haven't answered the poll because I don't agree with the options. As I recently read, it's more than possible to be an agnostic theist, an agnostic atheist, a gnostic theist or a gnostic atheist.

Gnosticism/agnosticism refers to the theory of knowledge of religion - i.e. whether or not we can know of such things.

Atheism/theism refers to the belief - or, to make a mild leap, faith - in religion and god. i.e. whether or not we believe in such things.

Someone with a firm, committed, zealous belief in a deity or commitment to a religion can quite easily be an agnostic if they do not think we are able to acquire the knowledge of the higher power, but can reach the conclusion by faith alone. Similarly, someone - such as a rationalist of a certain stripe - could assert that the existence/non-existence of a deity can be asserted by reason or by empiricism, and thus colour themselves a theist or atheist apropos of that.

So until these options are reflected, I can't vote in the poll. I will say that I am an atheist, although I do not know whether I am agnostic. I have no faith or belief in... well, anything, really. I don't think *I* can acquire the knowledge, but I know that the human capacity for knowledge is increasing, and as such cannot commit to agnosticism.
[/quot



Stop being pedantic-you're clearly confused like most of us so you're a considered agnostic (without your frills), or 'OTHER'! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-13 07:24:15
QUOTE(good guy @ May 13 2007, 06:14 AM) [snapback]271208[/snapback]
Big nipples. without a doubt, oh and a c**t like a punch bag.

edited: Cant believe c lit is censored

Try clitoris good guy if c**t doesn't work!

The editing on the forum is absolutely bizarre! blink.gif wacko.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-13 07:33:07
QUOTE(shedhead @ May 13 2007, 06:22 AM) [snapback]271210[/snapback]
It's becoming a wee bit like follow follow on here. Is it pape-bashing season or something.

'Pape bashing's a perennial pursuit shedhead, but what's 'Pape bashing' about NewTon's legitimate question?

From a personal viewpoint, I'm glad to see the old chap becoming a bit more animated-I thought the last guy had kinda left him in the shade.
mortonjag 2007-05-13 07:34:42
QUOTE(marx @ May 13 2007, 03:44 AM) [snapback]271202[/snapback]
Happy Mondays

Simple minds
mortonjag 2007-05-13 07:38:12
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ May 12 2007, 07:22 PM) [snapback]270955[/snapback]
If the SFL can't get a sponsor in with a league that strong then i don't know when they ever will rolleyes.gif

Were you at the excelsior yesterday, and if so what did you think of your uncle?
mortonjag 2007-05-13 07:42:38 Joe was one of my great heros-an irrepressible wee guy from the east end of Greenock. I first saw him play at Scapa for the Scottish Schoolboys when he was (obviously) still a kid, and he rattled in two or three goals. I knew from the first time I saw him that he'd make the grade, despite his lack of inches.
mortonjag 2007-05-13 07:47:50
QUOTE(Savo @ May 13 2007, 04:02 AM) [snapback]271204[/snapback]
If we take a look at St Mirren this season - a very ordinary, unremarkable team (& club) - then I reckon we have proof positive there's bigger and brighter things ahead for us.

If an outfit like that can get up and stay there then so can we. Fair play to them for the comeback today...but they can still away and lie in their ain pish tongue.gif .

Congratulations, too, to Stirling for making it up. I confess I would rather have had Airdrie for the sheer poison/atmosphere factor (rather than a club that wants you to fund the purchase of their own pie ovens) but hats off to Stirling all the same. No one can argue they aren't there on merit, so good luck to them.

And, most of all, a big congratulations to the vastly underrated Billy Stark.

A top bloke who is very deserving of the success he is enjoying at the moment. Well done Starky smile.gif

Everything depends on the Chairman at the end of the day. I've said this before-if Dougie wants it enough, and makes wise decisions, we can be in the SPL this time next year.
mortonjag 2007-05-13 07:58:01
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ May 12 2007, 08:45 PM) [snapback]271001[/snapback]
'perineum'

Perry Mason-lawyer

Perry Neum-nawyer.
mortonjag 2007-05-13 08:00:21
QUOTE(Tons @ May 12 2007, 09:28 PM) [snapback]271033[/snapback]
If you try for a second to imagine Christ was the real deal and look at it from his point of view. He's the Son of God sent to die by his Father as a once-and-for-all scarifice for all the wrong people do in the world so that people and God can be reconciled. He dies an excruciating death and his Father raises him to life again. That's his side of the bargain done -- but it will only work if indivdiuals personally believe in what he does.

At that point should he just decide that's enough or should he get a bunch of his followers to let people know about it? How people have gone about spreading the Gospel over the years has often left a lot to be desired but Jesus was not about forcing ideas down people's throats. He wanted them to know that salvation -- the chance to spend eternity with God (Heaven) rather than eternity away from God (Hell) -- was on offer. Once people know about the offer, it's up to them what they do. God gave us free will.

You criticise Christianity for having an unequivocal message. To me that absoluteness is essential for Christ's message to have credibility. How credible is a Morton fan who says 'our team's good but there are others that are just as good that you can support.'

You still have the choice to disregard his message but Christians have to say it like it is in the Bible. Jesus says he is the only way to God. That's what a Christian believes. You can't force people to believe that and you should never deny people freedom of reasonable religion.


What annoys me about that kind of statement is that it is a classical example of interpretation promoted as fact.

Your post is entirely reasonable, but I assure you that having studied the Bible extensively as a child, and well into my teens-(I even sat and excelled in several Bible Exams), I formed the conclusion that it is possibly the most contentious and contradictory album of fairy stories ever cobbled together.

Depending on which Gospel, chapter, or verse you wish to select, you can 'PROVE' just about anything you like.

'For God so loved the world that he sent his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life'-so the intention's clear from the start.

Jesus said to his disciples 'Go ye into the world and PREACH the gospel'.

I shall make you 'fishers of men' he said to Simon and Andrew.

IMHO Jesus was to Christianity what Colkitto is to the SNP-he wasn't content to believe he was right-he DEFINITELY promoted the shoving of theory down others' throats.
mortonjag 2007-05-13 08:27:42 I'm almost scared to say this-I shall word it EXTREMELY carefully-your Dublin Ditty's 'done a runner'.

If you gently simmer polished rice for half an hour it becomes nice and flexible-dare I describe that as plastic paddy? unsure.gif

Anyhow-to the point-I really enjoyed it, and would like the title and author's name! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-13 08:37:57
QUOTE(shedhead @ May 13 2007, 08:30 AM) [snapback]271228[/snapback]
well it's the third topic with Catholic church in the title in the last day or two, each one having a little moan about something to do with the church. Just wondered what the sudden fascination was. I know us Catholics are better and all but this jealous sniping has to stop. wink.gif

Nonsense EVERYBODY knows the Proddies are the only true Christians, though I confess to having met the occasional enlightened Calf Lick.

Really though I'd love all the Christians to band together and fight a common enemy like the Skunks, or the BBC-not the Muslims though-I want them to join us in our crusade. Let's all march on the new skunkery and raze it to the ground in the name of polyreligy.

Vote polyreligy and make skunkery a thing of the past, I say.

Now moustache. Early mass beckons! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-13 08:40:01
QUOTE(lush @ May 13 2007, 08:22 AM) [snapback]271225[/snapback]
coalman

mustard
mortonjag 2007-05-13 08:42:14
QUOTE(lush @ May 13 2007, 08:40 AM) [snapback]271231[/snapback]
disgusting

odour
mortonjag 2007-05-13 08:47:44
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 13 2007, 08:44 AM) [snapback]271234[/snapback]
Styles and Breeze

Esther and Abe Ofarim
mortonjag 2007-05-13 08:48:44
QUOTE(lush @ May 13 2007, 08:46 AM) [snapback]271239[/snapback]
Hate Street

Wants treat
mortonjag 2007-05-13 08:56:48 Sad to say, I can remember the early Eurovision Song Contests. I'm not so daft that I'd argue that in those days the best song always won, but the winning song normally went on to be a big success-not so much because of promotion as because it was damned good.

Last night the normal programme shedule, which is bad enough in itself, was disrupted to enable the Dublin Deity to foist on us his annual phantasmagorial cacophony of wannabees-cringeworthy in extremis! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-13 09:01:08
QUOTE(lush @ May 13 2007, 08:51 AM) [snapback]271245[/snapback]
Bar of chocolate

squares
mortonjag 2007-05-13 09:03:36
QUOTE(ThornTON @ May 13 2007, 08:49 AM) [snapback]271244[/snapback]
Well Done Billy, even if I couldn't see anything at the crematorium due to your ears wink.gif laugh.gif

A serious question my young man which I'll slip in here in the hope that nobody pounces. Do you think Billy Stark is as good a manager as Jim McInally?
mortonjag 2007-05-13 09:10:00
QUOTE(grnklad2006ton @ May 12 2007, 05:37 PM) [snapback]270887[/snapback]
Wanted airdrie and the skunks. Cant stand that we bast*rd allan moore, he's a big mouth we tw*t. He said that the only reson that morton won the title was because of Paul Mcgowen. Get it round yi moore, see yi soon. Ps can anyone possibly tell me how on earth Mcgowen won morton the title? blink.gif

Moore has repeatedly said we are better than the rest-his quote about McGowan was a 'one off'.

Anyway he won through in the end against more difficult odds, and with lesser resources than we had in the play offs, so full credit to him.
mortonjag 2007-05-13 09:15:51
QUOTE(Tons @ May 13 2007, 09:09 AM) [snapback]271250[/snapback]
I see what you are saying; I think that still fits with what I meant overall and that is that people have just two choices when considering the origins of the universe, both of which are pretty incredible: it was an accident or a being started it (or a combination of the two in your case perhaps)

The third choice is to get one's head round the concept of perpetuity.

To quote the Troggs 'there's no beginning-there is no end'. I find it EASIER to accept that possibility than to agonise over how everything must come from something--which must come from something-which..... unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-13 09:29:09
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 13 2007, 09:17 AM) [snapback]271253[/snapback]
Limerick Deity MJ, Limerick Deity ....... the Dubs have enough to be worrting about without getting falsely saddled with "yer man" as well.

A truly horrible, talentless, predictable and sadly riveting night's entertainment !

TonInDublin


I apologise deeply for troublin'
you TiD- in relating to Dublin
a self centred bore,
who makes your head sore
'til you get to the stage where you're bubblin'.
mortonjag 2007-05-13 09:31:08
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 13 2007, 09:26 AM) [snapback]271254[/snapback]
Dairy Milk

Mary Dilk
mortonjag 2007-05-13 09:33:49
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 13 2007, 09:30 AM) [snapback]271257[/snapback]
The title of the song was, like Oscar Wilde's homosexuality, the love that dare not speak its name. So its called
PP - the author is Eric Bogle - a Scottish songwriter who emigrated to Australia, and has written countless tunes which will last the ages including the anti war songs The Band Played Waltzing Matilda, and No Mans Land (The Green Fields Of France).

Also check out his humour on PP as we spoke about and a hugely satirical song he wrote about Australia's lack of integration with foreigners on the title "I Hate ----" - which got him death threats because people couldn't see he was actually exposing hatred and bigotry rather than endorsing it.

His songs about the Nazi death camps (Never Again/It's Happening Again) and the injustices in Africa (Singing The Spirit Home) are outstanding, but so are some of his more poignant songs, like when he last saw his mother at the train in Scotland as he left to go to Australia (you must read those lyrics - song is called Leaving Nancy), and also the song about the traditional Australian corky, whose hard life and trials are captured in "Now I'm Easy".

The man is a Scottish legend and very few people know of him but they will all know at least one of his songs, expecially with No Mans Land (Green Fields Of France to a lot of people) being and The Band Played Waltzing Matilda being two of the most popular anti war songs of all time.

His song (true story) about a wee boy murdered when he should have been taken into care is a heart wrencher "Daniel Smiling".

Just for you MJ - here's a link to his website and specifically to all of his lyrics - well worth a read.

http://ericbogle.net/lyrics/index.htm

Enjoy - oh, and if you're going to invest, buy one of the collections to get you hooked - there are several out there - a couple of which have all the songs above on them.

TonInDublin

Muchas grassy arse TiD

BTW Eric Bogle-the not so well known 'Ghost Writer'!!
mortonjag 2007-05-13 09:35:13
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 13 2007, 09:27 AM) [snapback]271255[/snapback]
Monkees

Spinners
mortonjag 2007-05-13 09:42:09 Happy birthday also to VaderTON, GrumpyTits, and SJ76!
mortonjag 2007-05-13 10:40:04
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 13 2007, 09:46 AM) [snapback]271264[/snapback]
Savage Garden

new seekers
mortonjag 2007-05-13 10:41:03
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 13 2007, 09:46 AM) [snapback]271265[/snapback]
Mary Doll

Hairy ball
mortonjag 2007-05-13 10:46:50
QUOTE(SramTon @ May 13 2007, 10:43 AM) [snapback]271274[/snapback]
Pretty much depends how well the opposition are doing.

If, for instance, Partick are rooted to the bottom they'll not be bringing 2,000 fans.

For most of the Wilson era our average home crowds were in the region of 1,400 to 1,600. The home support alone next season will greatly exceed those figures but it serves as an indication of how few away supporters make the trip.

Also how many away fans are going to be put off travelling on a wet day when they know they're going to be stuck out in the open at the WDE (assuming that is what is going to happen)?

That's it in a nutshell-if Dundee, for example were say second top near the end of the season, and we could overtake them , they'd probably bring over 1k. Even the likes of Stirling would muster a decent travelling support if they were in a similar position.
mortonjag 2007-05-13 15:15:29
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 13 2007, 11:38 AM) [snapback]271296[/snapback]
If you can remember Matt Monroe then you are indeed old.
I dissent, Wogan is the only good thing in the homo-fest which is Eurovision.

I was indeed young!

Wogan's the smarmeister supreme-I never doubt his talent nor its emetic qualities.
mortonjag 2007-05-13 15:22:20
QUOTE(CraigoTON @ May 13 2007, 03:12 PM) [snapback]271362[/snapback]
homosexual

gay
mortonjag 2007-05-13 15:26:35
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 13 2007, 03:13 PM) [snapback]271363[/snapback]
You conceded earlier that in the context of the original case in question, you'd happily substitue 'tragedy' for 'evil'. Now you appear to be contradicting yourself.
Are you really saying that a woman who rids herself of the spawn of the brute that violated her is committing an evil act ? I'd still go with tragedy and wouldn't impose further on the victim's feelings by talking about 'lesser evils'.
It seems that Christians can be so judgemental at times, ignoring the advice of their mentor.

Which encapsulates the point I was making when I started the thread.
mortonjag 2007-05-13 15:48:00 Kai impressed straight away with his speed and class. I remember when he first came to us he wasn't the greatest header of a ball, but he worked on that too, and of course Hal made the usual 'skin' by selling him on to the Huns. Sorry to hear he's died at a relatively early age.
mortonjag 2007-05-13 15:50:10
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 13 2007, 03:41 PM) [snapback]271376[/snapback]
Ah was that it? I thought you were just having a pop at Catholics again. tongue.gif

Moi! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-13 15:50:52
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 13 2007, 03:33 PM) [snapback]271375[/snapback]
day

knight
mortonjag 2007-05-13 15:56:12
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 13 2007, 03:04 PM) [snapback]271359[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED...surely that description doesn't apply to ALL atheists-in fact I've known one or two who claimed to live in monogamous bliss.
mortonjag 2007-05-13 15:58:35
QUOTE(lemmington @ May 13 2007, 03:53 PM) [snapback]271384[/snapback]
What age was he and was his death sudden????

I've been trying to find that out-for some reason Wikipedia doesn't list him with the Rangers Danes.

I imagine he wasn't very much more than mid sixties.
mortonjag 2007-05-13 16:03:51
QUOTE(arklesTON @ May 13 2007, 03:23 PM) [snapback]271369[/snapback]
That Serbian entry looked like a real lesbofest.

Slobodan with tits lives on....

laugh.gif

a houseboat and borscht.
mortonjag 2007-05-13 16:08:00
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ May 12 2007, 07:19 PM) [snapback]270953[/snapback]
not long in from the game, and i've got to say that Stirling deserved to come up as Airdrie, apart from a 15 minute spell at the end of the first half, were woeful. And during the 2nd half Airdrie started to turn a bit nasty, with a lot of afters off the ball and bad tackles flying in - I shouldn't have expected any different from a team managed by Kenny Black!

I was actually hoping that we would get rid of Stirling - they seem to hold the Indian sign over us and they'll probably be our bogey team again next season sad.gif

I missed your post-have to agree with your match assessment-I also saw Airdrie v Brechin and they were not great.

Thought your Uncle Chris was pretty influential! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-13 16:09:12
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 13 2007, 04:07 PM) [snapback]271392[/snapback]
rider

haggard
mortonjag 2007-05-13 16:10:54
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 13 2007, 03:27 PM) [snapback]271371[/snapback]
Yazoo

ordinary boys
mortonjag 2007-05-13 16:11:39
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 13 2007, 04:10 PM) [snapback]271395[/snapback]
drunk

tiddly
mortonjag 2007-05-13 16:17:36
QUOTE(arklesTON @ May 13 2007, 02:57 PM) [snapback]271355[/snapback]
I'd imagine down in places like Burnley, Oldham and Bradford there would be some cracking curries to be had down there. Renfrew has got some good Curry takeaways but sadly for a decent Chinese. There is seven Chinese takeaways, Ive tried six and only one is anywhere near passable. The seventh doesnt deliver. sad.gif
Some good choices there, sir! wink.gif
I've heard good reports of the Turban in Giffnock, but thankfully i'm never down that neck of the woods very often so i havent had the pleasure yet. May give it a shot some night.

biggrin.gif

biggrin.gif

Have you, or has any other poster, perchance discovered a decent curry house in Dundee.

They've got a great big one right in the city centre called the 'Jahangir'-it's expensive and absolutely CRAP...Naff too-an old Scottish guy-probably in his late seventies or even eighties greets you-dressed in the full gear including a sequinned turban, and hands you the menu which looks superb, but the service is poor and the food worse.
mortonjag 2007-05-13 16:19:30
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 13 2007, 04:12 PM) [snapback]271399[/snapback]
wink

eye
mortonjag 2007-05-13 16:20:47
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 13 2007, 04:11 PM) [snapback]271398[/snapback]
Slip Knot

Take that
mortonjag 2007-05-13 16:25:37
QUOTE(NonTon @ May 13 2007, 01:15 PM) [snapback]271330[/snapback]
Yeah, what exactly were you expecting?

"Pope says Koran is one true holy book! Allahu akbar!"

My goodness he's come on leaps and bounds-the enlightened ecumenism that is Rome!
mortonjag 2007-05-13 16:33:04
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 13 2007, 04:24 PM) [snapback]271404[/snapback]
Tavares

stereolab
mortonjag 2007-05-13 16:34:20
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 13 2007, 04:23 PM) [snapback]271403[/snapback]
eye!

too wise
mortonjag 2007-05-13 16:41:36
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 13 2007, 04:36 PM) [snapback]271411[/snapback]
Black Sabbath

Hermans Hermits
mortonjag 2007-05-13 16:42:15
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 13 2007, 04:35 PM) [snapback]271410[/snapback]
morecombe

bay
mortonjag 2007-05-13 16:45:43
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ May 12 2007, 09:08 PM) [snapback]271011[/snapback]
Too dour but makes good points that sometimes get lost in all of the negativity.

...has an unusual screen name!
mortonjag 2007-05-13 16:46:24
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 13 2007, 04:45 PM) [snapback]271417[/snapback]
hotel

monopoly
mortonjag 2007-05-13 16:47:12
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 13 2007, 04:45 PM) [snapback]271415[/snapback]
Stone Roses

Swingin' blue jeans
mortonjag 2007-05-13 16:48:19
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ May 13 2007, 04:47 PM) [snapback]271419[/snapback]
a greetin faced besterd tongue.gif

a humourless young man wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-13 17:01:28 I'm all for equality of the sexes where it makes sense, but as with all forms of political correctness, when taken to extremes it becomes simply ludicrous IMO.

Should demure little ladies, for example, be expected to remove heavy man personhole covers to deplete the rodent population of our sewers?

...or for that matter should men ever have been allowed into the midwifery profession?

I guess we all 'give the nod' to sexual equality when in fact we often have legitimate reservations. Mind you men still can't give birth to children-when are the EEC going to get that sorted-shower of incompetents. wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-13 17:03:34
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 13 2007, 04:49 PM) [snapback]271422[/snapback]
jail

bird
mortonjag 2007-05-13 17:05:01
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 13 2007, 04:50 PM) [snapback]271423[/snapback]
Slade

Edison lighthouse
mortonjag 2007-05-13 17:05:56
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 13 2007, 05:04 PM) [snapback]271428[/snapback]
chicken

wings
mortonjag 2007-05-13 17:20:50
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ May 13 2007, 05:09 PM) [snapback]271437[/snapback]
The right man for the right job has always been my thoughts on this and it doesn't matter what age, creed or sex that happens to be. Why shouldn't men be involved in midwifery. By your thought process should all male gynos give up their jobs? And if it is simply a case of the better physique, why the hell should men be allowed to do office based jobs or teaching as that surely is more suited to demure little ladies that can't lift heavy manhole covers.

Answers on the back of a post card please!

ScotinBelgie

PC on a PC eh Scotty (or maybe I'll christen you Robert the Bruiser)!

I suspect that most women do prefer a female gynaecologist, and the male to female ratio in that particular specialty is gradually reversing-no bad thing IMO.

Of course it's not 'simply the case of the better physique', but the separation of the sexes in almost all forms of competitive sport is an ongoing reminder that, as another famous Robert put it, 'Facts are chiels that winna ding'.
mortonjag 2007-05-13 17:23:07
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 13 2007, 05:11 PM) [snapback]271439[/snapback]
wood

pine
mortonjag 2007-05-13 17:24:09
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 13 2007, 05:08 PM) [snapback]271434[/snapback]
To much time on his hands. tongue.gif

Takes one to know one!
mortonjag 2007-05-13 17:25:51
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 13 2007, 05:24 PM) [snapback]271449[/snapback]
tree

monkey
mortonjag 2007-05-13 17:27:48
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 13 2007, 05:25 PM) [snapback]271452[/snapback]
laugh.gif wink.gif

Spiced Hammers (SPAMMERS)!
mortonjag 2007-05-13 17:29:05
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 13 2007, 05:27 PM) [snapback]271455[/snapback]
And what if the Tories said "yes" ? What do you think would have happened ?

You'd have shat your pants, curled up, and died.
mortonjag 2007-05-13 17:31:50
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 13 2007, 05:26 PM) [snapback]271454[/snapback]
nuts

bolts
mortonjag 2007-05-13 17:36:53
QUOTE(Robert the Bruce @ May 13 2007, 05:31 PM) [snapback]271460[/snapback]
How Mikey without the Tories could Jakey Mc Donnell stop the SNP?

Count the number of seats space cadet, he was asking the Tories aswel.

Labour are scum.

Politics IS scum-I just wonder if scum's homogeneous, or can you have the 'cream of the scum' in which case I agree that Labour are the skimmed milk-wishy washy, tasteless, and with very little substance.
mortonjag 2007-05-13 17:38:59
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 13 2007, 05:07 PM) [snapback]271433[/snapback]
Evanessence

east seventeen
mortonjag 2007-05-13 18:03:42
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ May 13 2007, 05:59 PM) [snapback]271473[/snapback]
Rubber

pencil
mortonjag 2007-05-13 18:06:50
QUOTE(Mr.Kennedy @ May 13 2007, 06:05 PM) [snapback]271479[/snapback]
Ensiferum

Manfred Mann
mortonjag 2007-05-13 18:10:23
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 13 2007, 06:09 PM) [snapback]271483[/snapback]
Pen

sheep
mortonjag 2007-05-13 18:13:37
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 13 2007, 06:08 PM) [snapback]271482[/snapback]
N'Sync

carpenters
mortonjag 2007-05-13 18:37:35
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ May 13 2007, 06:13 PM) [snapback]271489[/snapback]
Don't believe in being PC on a PC. However if being political correct means that I agree that the best man should get the job, then hey I'm PC. But being as this means that positive discrimination should be illegal then maybe I'm not as PC as people may think at first glance.

cool.gif ScotinBelgie

...and therein lies the whole problem-I believe in equality of the sexes where it makes sense-I guess you're saying much the same, but does the best person always get that job I wonder, when there is such widespread deference to and fear of offending PC in the workplace?.

I get extremely pissed off when I see stupid attempts to confound fact or reality-both in text and in practice.

I bought a psychology textbook about ten years ago-the first book of its type I'd read for many years, and the recommended text for a course I was on. I could NOT BELIEVE the interchanging of the words 'he' and 'she' from one paragraph to another. It spoiled an excellent reference tome, and all for the sake of what I see as crazy 'PC'.

FFS I wouldn't have cared in the slightest if 'he' had been REPLACED by 'she'-or 'it' for that matter, as the text often became disjointed with the random alternation of those pronouns.

Sorry for drifting off!!

Nightclub requires bouncers-nightclub gets bouncers

Brothel requires (lady) prostitutes-sorry guys!

Poodle parlour requires groom-poodle parlour gets poo groom.

...and so on-yip put the right person in the job and the job will be well done.
mortonjag 2007-05-13 18:45:11
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 13 2007, 06:34 PM) [snapback]271510[/snapback]
The Village, just off Morrison Street is very good. Only drawback is that it's Muslim owners won't allow alcohol. Curry isn't relly the same for me if I can't accompany it with a cold beer. Mango Lussis are Ok once in a while, but there's only so many I could drink.

They'll soon learn DE-money talks!
Anyhow do you get frisked on the way in and breathalysed on the way out-are there CCTV cameras in the lavvy-if they've got one-it looks a bit scabby from the outside-there are ways and means round such nonsense. cool.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-13 18:50:37
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 13 2007, 06:48 PM) [snapback]271525[/snapback]
I wouldn't mess about if I were you. If you get caught they might cut your heid aff.

...impossible with my brass neck!
mortonjag 2007-05-13 18:53:18
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 13 2007, 06:25 PM) [snapback]271504[/snapback]
"Strength lies not in defence but in attack." - Adolf Hitler

I get the brunt of the unnceccessary nastiness, I don't see why I shouldn't go preemptive laugh.gif

Strength lies not in defence but in midfield. James McInally.
mortonjag 2007-05-13 18:55:10
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 13 2007, 06:52 PM) [snapback]271528[/snapback]
Reef

four tops
mortonjag 2007-05-13 18:57:44
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 13 2007, 06:01 PM) [snapback]271474[/snapback]
No, I'm merely pointing out that Scottish Labour didn't go crawling specifically to the Tories - it was more of a general desperate appeal to all parties.

So then the sun doesn't shine out of Alex Salmond's arse? ohmy.gif

...it'll shine into his arse when he gets down to picking the pansies for his Reich.
mortonjag 2007-05-13 18:59:05
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 13 2007, 06:56 PM) [snapback]271535[/snapback]
Needle

Fred
mortonjag 2007-05-13 19:00:08
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 13 2007, 06:58 PM) [snapback]271540[/snapback]
Just asking cos i couldn't log on for about 3 hours today & came very close to chucking this computer against the wall. mad.gif

I only use it for e-mails. I use Internet Explorer for this.
mortonjag 2007-05-13 19:00:49
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 13 2007, 06:59 PM) [snapback]271544[/snapback]
Perry

Mason
mortonjag 2007-05-13 19:02:42
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 13 2007, 06:58 PM) [snapback]271539[/snapback]
I'm one of them. For most of the time anyway.

...you occasionally doubt your atheism-entirely understandable I'd say!
mortonjag 2007-05-13 19:03:22
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 13 2007, 07:02 PM) [snapback]271549[/snapback]
Lodges

beavers
mortonjag 2007-05-13 19:05:15
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 13 2007, 06:37 PM) [snapback]271513[/snapback]
Doesn't mince his words biggrin.gif

Doesn't ALWAYS use a smiley unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-13 19:07:43
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 13 2007, 07:06 PM) [snapback]271556[/snapback]
Woggles

wiggles
mortonjag 2007-05-13 19:10:14
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 13 2007, 07:05 PM) [snapback]271555[/snapback]
I thought it might have been a prob with my PC but obviously not, TBH i've never had any probs with AOL before.

Oh by the way SW, I know it would've been a bad idea, that's why i didn't actually do it. smile.gif rolleyes.gif

Then you are one LUCKY man. I find the AOL software to be incredibly unreliable. The only reason I'm still using them is that BT totally f*cked up the transfer to their broadband, and left me in the lurch with MAC codes etc.
mortonjag 2007-05-13 19:16:10
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 13 2007, 07:06 PM) [snapback]271559[/snapback]
I am a committed Christian, and have gone to church since I was very young.

I'm surprised, and strangely pleased to see that almost 20% of voters have professed 'total committment' to their beliefs.

I've sometimes managed to feel quite jealous of folk who get strength from their faith, but I'm afraid I just don't buy into the 'God' stuff.
mortonjag 2007-05-13 19:17:29
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 13 2007, 07:12 PM) [snapback]271572[/snapback]
Doubts occasionally for sure. But I was saying that I am one of those Atheists who live in monogamous bliss, for most of the time.

REALLY rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-13 19:20:12
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 13 2007, 07:18 PM) [snapback]271583[/snapback]
Smiles

grins
mortonjag 2007-05-13 19:21:43
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 13 2007, 07:15 PM) [snapback]271574[/snapback]
Doesn't use enough smileys IMO biggrin.gif

alcoholic simian
mortonjag 2007-05-13 19:24:38
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 13 2007, 07:06 PM) [snapback]271558[/snapback]
Maybe they should review matters then. I don't see much difference between Thatcherism and Blairism. Either include or exclude them all I would say, with the exception of the BNP. I couldn't exchange a single word, never mind contemplate a coalition with that lot.

You must be blind-Maggie was MUCH more attractive than that grinning eejit-otherwise I agree!
mortonjag 2007-05-13 19:26:21
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 13 2007, 07:24 PM) [snapback]271592[/snapback]
Uses too many big words to state the bleedin obvious.

is-a-cheeky-boy wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-13 19:29:45
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 13 2007, 07:23 PM) [snapback]271591[/snapback]
D'you mean if i believe in god i can beat up big blokes and get nice burdz ? huh.gif smile.gif

All things are possible to him who believeth-you can even beat up big burdz and get nice blokes if you're that way inclined, but don't do 'God' and spinach at the same time, 'cos God hates competition, and he's GOD.
mortonjag 2007-05-13 19:31:07
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 13 2007, 07:30 PM) [snapback]271599[/snapback]
YES
laugh.gif

Knotty!
mortonjag 2007-05-13 19:32:12
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 13 2007, 07:29 PM) [snapback]271597[/snapback]
Has to much to say. tongue.gif

Cannae spell 'too'! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-13 19:33:00
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 13 2007, 07:20 PM) [snapback]271586[/snapback]
Smileys biggrin.gif smile.gif biggrin.gif smile.gif cool.gif rolleyes.gif dry.gif mellow.gif unsure.gif wink.gif tongue.gif rolleyes.gif dry.gif

exhausts
mortonjag 2007-05-13 19:38:19
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 13 2007, 07:33 PM) [snapback]271603[/snapback]
Mentaljag admits to fancying Maggie Thatcher in web forum shock horror.

She had balls of solid steel and a will that could slice through diamond like a knife through butter-one of the few political figures I've ever been able to love and hate simultaneously.
mortonjag 2007-05-13 19:39:47
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 13 2007, 07:39 PM) [snapback]271607[/snapback]
Glasgae subversive tongue.gif

Inverclyde insurgent wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-13 19:42:20
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 13 2007, 07:38 PM) [snapback]271606[/snapback]
Defence lies in midfield strength and not in James McInally. Doctor Mentaljag.

In Doctor James Mentaljag McInally and not in defence lies midfield strength ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-13 20:41:45
QUOTE(TaunTon @ May 13 2007, 07:52 PM) [snapback]271614[/snapback]
toothless crone smile.gif

demented defector sleep.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-13 20:45:02
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ May 13 2007, 07:49 PM) [snapback]271613[/snapback]
Agree with you on most points there MJ, but do have a slight issue with statementsHerein lies the problem I feel most of us struggle with. In fact I don't believe in equality, none of us are equal, we're all different and bring different skillsets to the table. However and this is my issue with your statement, you cannot discriminate against a candidate on the basis of sex (creed or colour) at any time - even if it makes sense in your mindset. The only differentiator should be ability to do the job (one of the toughest bouncers I knew was a bloke but one of the most effective was a lassie), which may by it's nature be self selecting.

cool.gif ScotinBelgie

Sure-but they are the exceptions which 'prove the rule'.
mortonjag 2007-05-13 20:50:00
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 13 2007, 08:26 PM) [snapback]271627[/snapback]
Good try carbuncle boy.

The act is an evil act, ( thou shalt not kill), sometimes a necessary evil, always a tragedy, killing is never good.
Don't get hung up on words, Christ had it right about false prophets- by their deeds................

Tragedy and Evil, that seems ok about much in life.

I'll face Peter and the lord God with that view.

That was surely an Old Testament commandment. Jesus gave a new commandment-that ye love one another. If I could have predicted the actions of, for example, Hamilton at Dunblane, my love for those children, would have enabled me to shoot him dead-the lesser of two evils? Perhaps.
mortonjag 2007-05-13 20:53:38
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 13 2007, 08:35 PM) [snapback]271636[/snapback]
Doctor Mentaljag's a socialist ?

Pragmatist with strong sympathies for the underdog.
mortonjag 2007-05-13 20:54:19
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 13 2007, 08:45 PM) [snapback]271642[/snapback]
Fumes

rages
mortonjag 2007-05-13 20:55:19
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 13 2007, 07:21 PM) [snapback]271588[/snapback]
Orange juice

echobelly
mortonjag 2007-05-14 06:23:40
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 13 2007, 09:43 PM) [snapback]271667[/snapback]
QUOTE(para @ May 13 2007, 09:39 PM) [snapback]271665[/snapback]

I saw the whole of Kai s career at cappielow
I am 99 percent sure he was our second dane after Eric Sorenson

[/quote

I think you're correct there.

search---jonaton danes--he has an article on an old site
mortonjag 2007-05-14 06:55:29
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 13 2007, 09:50 PM) [snapback]271673[/snapback]
ya boo sucks

dunmmy tit
mortonjag 2007-05-14 06:59:35
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 13 2007, 11:40 PM) [snapback]271705[/snapback]
I think that he's greatly over estimated as a player, just like Barry Ferguson is. Over villified ? By opposing fans certainly, the death threats were particularly outrageous examples of the abuses he had to endure. But I think the media treated him as fairly and unfairly as it treats others. If anything, the media certainly over estimated his abilities as a footballer.
All the best to him anyway.

Depends how you assess a player-Lennon's assets on the pitch are the very ones which made him the frequent 'fall guy' for lazy sports hacks.

If he'd been captaining our lads last season he'd have made it so much easier for us.
mortonjag 2007-05-14 07:05:57
QUOTE(edd @ May 14 2007, 12:04 AM) [snapback]271710[/snapback]
"the exception proves the rule" actually means that the rule has been disproven by the exception. i'm not sure why but in the past the verb "prove" in this context really means "disprove". (although i quite like a more sophisticated justification of the verb "prove" as meaning "prove" in that by calling certain cases "exceptions" this means that there must be a general rule to which they are exceptions, thus the exception proves the rule ... not a fool-proof rule which is never broken, just a general rule of thumb sort of thing smile.gif). i think what you meant to say was that there will always be exceptions to the general rule in any situation.

by the way, i've met female employers who don't like employing women because there's always the chance that they might have kids and require paid maternity leave, which leaves the employer out of pocket and generally causes them a lot of hassle. clearly that would be called unfair discrimination in this day and age but it's just a fact of life.

I stand corrected.

That is an exception which disproves the rule! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-14 07:12:25 without whom the forum would have been less entertaining.

mortonjag 2007-05-14 07:17:38 Folk and their funny food fads-testicles-good nutritious stuff-just like tripe or heart.

It's OK to eat cow but not horse. blink.gif

FFS, anybody who REALLY knows the meaning of STARVING would gobble his own kn** if it could be snapped off painlessly.

Here we go again-bedknobs and broomsticks-the brooms can keep their sticks, but a bed ain't allowed to have a kn**!!! biggrin.gif wacko.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-14 07:24:01 Nobody likes watery beer.
mortonjag 2007-05-14 07:26:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 14 2007, 07:23 AM) [snapback]271763[/snapback]
It's OK to eat cow but not horse.
It's OK to eat snake but not monkey.

It's OK to eat kangaroo but not dog.

It's OK to eat rats but not cats.
ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

It's OK to eat mushrooms but toad's tools are off menu.
mortonjag 2007-05-14 07:33:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 14 2007, 01:22 AM) [snapback]271736[/snapback]
Self praise is no recommendation.

smile.gif

mmm unsure.gif -my Mum always used to say-'If you want something done properly, do it yourself'.

Let's face it NewTon-'trumpets' are only a nuisance when they're blowing 'bum' notes-if the old guy's telling the truth, good luck to him! smile.gif

mortonjag 2007-05-14 07:43:39 This poll's really surprised me-20% committed is FAR more than I'd have predicted, but the atheist/agnostic ratio has me puzzled.

Without using nach0's complicated definitions, I simply see agnosticism as an acknowledgement of ignorance-and my 'take' is that no mortal is able to KNOW facts relating to immortality.

Over the years I've become more and more comfortable with the concept of a 'higher power', which for me may well be a function of the unconscious mind rather than anything else. I have to concede the possibility of 'God', since it's impossible to disprove his existence.
mortonjag 2007-05-14 07:46:33
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 14 2007, 07:41 AM) [snapback]271771[/snapback]
If you eat raw cane toad's tools, they will swell up in your stomach, because of the toxins, and then

... there's not mushroom inside.

Fun Guy! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-14 07:48:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 14 2007, 07:45 AM) [snapback]271773[/snapback]
Looks like our mate does !!

laugh.gif

he's too much under the water weather to care!
mortonjag 2007-05-14 07:50:32
QUOTE(Mr.Kennedy @ May 14 2007, 07:34 AM) [snapback]271769[/snapback]
Which begs the question, how many books has he actually read? tongue.gif

or did he ever read this little ditty?

On the bosom of young Abigail
was emblazoned the price of her tail,
and on her behind-for the sake of the blind-
was the same information in Braille.
mortonjag 2007-05-14 07:54:24
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 14 2007, 07:50 AM) [snapback]271777[/snapback]
This must be bull.

If a bull as lost its testicles, isn't it a steer ?

huh.gif huh.gif

and why were there no horse testicles ?

There are plenty of geldings in Wisconsin.

laugh.gif laugh.gif

'Where have all the horse balls gone
The gourmets ate them one by one
When will they ever learn?
mortonjag 2007-05-14 08:04:33
QUOTE(Mr.Kennedy @ May 14 2007, 07:31 AM) [snapback]271767[/snapback]
Xzhibit (ok, not a band, but X is a tough letter tongue.gif)

Troggs
mortonjag 2007-05-14 08:07:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 14 2007, 07:34 AM) [snapback]271770[/snapback]
A YOUNG [JOE HARPER] kept his cool to slot home the penalty that helped Aberdeen lift the 1970 Scottish Cup against Celtic He'd already enjoyed great success at Morton, but didn't settle away from home, first at Huddersfield, then at Everton after the Dons.

As you can see, there was a big crowd that day. But I was a confident 21-year-old and had great belief in myself. The second picture shows [Eddie Turnbull] congratulating me and Jim Forrest (9). Afterwards the Press asked me: "What was going through your mind."

[b]I replied: "If I score I can have any bird I want in Aberdeen tonight!"[/b]

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
5/6 - Everton calling I WAS chosen as part of the Scottish League select team along with these handy players. We are, back row from left to right, Davie Hay, Dave Smith, [Bobby Murdoch] and Ian Phillip. In the front row are, from left to right, Lou Macari, [Billy McNeill], myself and [Bobby Clark].

http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/smgpubs/access...OE+HARPER+TAKES

'If I score once, I'll score again'-sounds just like the young Harper to me!
mortonjag 2007-05-14 08:09:15
QUOTE(WullTon @ May 14 2007, 08:05 AM) [snapback]271780[/snapback]
I've heard we're signing a Rangers U19 player called Nicholas Gallacher . This may be true because he is from Greenock and would be keen to get some first team football.

Nicholas and Gallacher both played elsewhere! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-14 09:13:39
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 14 2007, 08:45 AM) [snapback]271788[/snapback]
A great player, sadly wasn't at Morton for long. I always remember he had very strange, piercing eyes. Probably the best right back we've ever had. I think he took over from John Boyd, master of the slide tackle.

I never really spotted that, but I do recall his fitness and speed, and his determination always to make use of the ball instead of just 'lumping' it up the field-which was quite common in those days from full backs like Johnny (take no prisoners) Boyd.

That, and a strange lack of heading ability when he first arrived-especially as that was a strong point with most of the Danes.
mortonjag 2007-05-14 09:25:09
QUOTE(ThornTON @ May 14 2007, 09:10 AM) [snapback]271791[/snapback]
I still haven't got my MAC code from AOL, as I wanted to change to a much cheaper one.

Gave up.

They are now legally obliged to divulge the MAC code, but can still charge you if you leave them before the end of the contract.
mortonjag 2007-05-14 09:28:55
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 14 2007, 09:18 AM) [snapback]271795[/snapback]
Opinionated, but respectful.

Ditto-SIR laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-14 09:30:12
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 14 2007, 09:18 AM) [snapback]271796[/snapback]
real tit

Rowan Alexander
mortonjag 2007-05-14 09:52:55
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 14 2007, 09:29 AM) [snapback]271804[/snapback]
You joking? Flexible lassie like Olive Oil? Popeye knows the score...

You LIKE plastic Mick eh?
mortonjag 2007-05-14 09:55:44
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 14 2007, 09:50 AM) [snapback]271818[/snapback]
nut job

fruiterer
mortonjag 2007-05-14 09:57:27
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 14 2007, 09:50 AM) [snapback]271817[/snapback]
Nice avatars.

closet plook picker
mortonjag 2007-05-14 10:02:38
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 14 2007, 09:27 AM) [snapback]271799[/snapback]
Stylistics

steeleye span
mortonjag 2007-05-14 10:06:55
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 14 2007, 10:02 AM) [snapback]271830[/snapback]
Steward

Grease
mortonjag 2007-05-14 10:09:11
QUOTE(franco @ May 14 2007, 09:52 AM) [snapback]271819[/snapback]
That's only one side of the argument though. The women will argue that their tennis is far more entertaining than the men's - they sometimes have these things called 'rally's' where the ball remains in play for several shots, as opposed to the men's where it's serve/volley end of. Also every year we know who is going to be the men's champion at wimbledon, but the ladies champ could come from anyone of half a dozen or so, so again not knowing the outcome makes it more entertaining (goes the argument). I think both sides of the argument are valid (time on court versus entertainment value), but surely what should detremine the prize money is the the sellability of the product to the advertisers/tv etc? That would be the true test.

Anyway, i like feminism. I take my hat off to true feminists...............
Which really pisses them off!

I guess your head rarely feels cold!

Is a 'feminist' the same as a female chauvinist pig, or can you give me a better definition? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-14 10:12:33
QUOTE(Up the Ton @ May 14 2007, 09:48 AM) [snapback]271815[/snapback]
Good point. nae luck indeed, another year in the SPL and nearly £20M in the bank from the stadium sale.

A fool and his money are easily parted.
mortonjag 2007-05-14 10:22:04
QUOTE(nach0king @ May 14 2007, 10:07 AM) [snapback]271833[/snapback]
They are two different things!

Complicated definitions? They're not complicated in the least. -gnosticism pertains to knowledge, -theism pertains to belief. In this sense, "ignorance" implies that there is knowledge we can know, which would make you a gnostic of sorts going by the first part of the above.

The latter part is pretty much the definition of agnostic, though.
It's impossible to disprove the existence of the small being with the head of George Best and the body of Lisa Minnelli that lives on top of my bookcase, yet since I'm the one making the positive statement of its existence, the burden of proof is on me. The concept of proof is all but meaningless unless this is the case. Until I provide a photo or perhaps a small video on Youtube of said being then nobody is under any obligation to take my claim seriously.

For once I'm confused about what you're saying. I used the term 'considered agnostic' to indicate a person who has weighed up all the available evidence, and reached no conclusion either way.

An atheist claims he KNOWS there is no God.

An agnostic is merely ignorant.

In your original post you said you couldn't vote because the options were not comprehensive, and listed what I regard as complicated definitions-complicated in the sense that they confuse a very simple issue-as I see it.
mortonjag 2007-05-14 10:27:47
QUOTE(franco @ May 14 2007, 10:19 AM) [snapback]271837[/snapback]
No, but it may be that they hail from the Greek island of Lesbia.

mmm-that's an interesting one, and there's undoubtedly much in it. I think the problem is that 'feminism' means different things to different people, and opinions often change with age or social circumstances.

I guess there have been loads of 'feminists' at University who subsequently discovered more subtle ways of advancing their careers.
mortonjag 2007-05-14 10:29:00
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 14 2007, 10:08 AM) [snapback]271834[/snapback]
Olivia Newton John wub.gif

bicycle
mortonjag 2007-05-14 10:30:10
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 14 2007, 10:03 AM) [snapback]271831[/snapback]
Nice sense of humour with a great login name.

Excellent sense of the ridiculous wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-14 10:41:13
QUOTE(nach0king @ May 14 2007, 10:33 AM) [snapback]271845[/snapback]
Then they're undecided.

Not necessarily. If he or she has undertaken empirical enquiry and discovered the knowledge of God's unexistence then he or she is a gnostic atheist.

If they're just saying "I KNOW there is no God" without having the knowledge doesn't actually know, but rather believes, making them purely atheist, with no knowledge (gnosis) required. It is possible to claim disbelief in God without knowing it, just as it's possible to claim belief in God without knowing it (agnostic theism, a position which many of "faith" hold.)
Well, here is where you and the dictionary part ways. An agnostic thinks that the knowledge is not available.

Put it this way. I don't know of, or understand, of the inner workings of quantum mechanics. I am ignorant of how quantum mechanics work.

I'm unable to know, or understand, the origins of the universe. This doesn't make me ignorant of them as the knowledge is - for my reasoning - not available. This is how to rightly describe agnosticism. Considered, unconsidered, it doesn't make a difference because the word means the position of being unable to know, not that we simply don't know.
That's entirely your decision to make. The dictionary definitions are around one line long each; whether or not you choose to acknowledge them is outside my control.

-theism pertains to belief.
-gnosticism pertains to knowledge.

FFS I've seen other posters go round in circles like this for ages but never thought I'd get involved in a semantic squabble!

Stuff the dictionary for a moment if you will.
Atheism in general means believing there is no God-I do not accept any condition on that.

Theism is self explanatory, and in between there is agnosticism-not knowing-being ignorant.

That's all I ever meant.

Do you believe in God?

Aye

Naw

Dunno
mortonjag 2007-05-14 10:44:00
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 14 2007, 10:41 AM) [snapback]271852[/snapback]
Grey pubes? Nope, although there's the odd ginger one which is worse.

Pluck it out man!
mortonjag 2007-05-14 10:45:51
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 14 2007, 10:39 AM) [snapback]271850[/snapback]
Mortonjag's burd.

refinement
mortonjag 2007-05-14 10:58:32
QUOTE(nach0king @ May 14 2007, 10:46 AM) [snapback]271855[/snapback]
There is no squabble. Either you'll use the correct definition of words or you won't. It's no skin off my sack one way or the other.

Uh, no?
Yes, that is what atheism means.
[b]No, that's not what agnosticism means. No matter how many times you say it, that isn't what agnosticism means. It means that we cannot acquire the knowledge of a god, that it is unknowable - NOT that we are merely ignorant (without the knowledge) of it.
[/b]

Bloody hell nach0-you're beginning to sound like colkitto

Chambers 20th century dictionary-one of the best references on the go - and Scottish:-

Agnostic-a person who believes that we know nothing of things beyond material phenomena, that a Creator, creative cause and an unseen world are things unknown (OR unknowable).

At this moment I profess lack of knowledge-I DO NOT state that the answer is unknowable-something could change in the next minute and unlock those secrets.

gnostos always meant known OR knowable.



mortonjag 2007-05-14 11:01:38
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ May 14 2007, 10:37 AM) [snapback]271847[/snapback]
liar (see above)

confounded confabulator! cool.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-14 11:15:05
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 14 2007, 11:03 AM) [snapback]271863[/snapback]
elegance

mercedes benz
mortonjag 2007-05-14 11:16:46
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 14 2007, 11:10 AM) [snapback]271864[/snapback]
That was funny. smile.gif
Cheers. smile.gif
A man "up in his age" that's seen and done a lot, and can give good wisdom (although some don't want to hear it). wink.gif

Perception personified wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-14 11:20:11
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 14 2007, 11:14 AM) [snapback]271866[/snapback]
Nirvanha

agent bulldog
mortonjag 2007-05-14 11:22:26
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 14 2007, 11:19 AM) [snapback]271871[/snapback]
Yea, but perceptions are like a$$holes---everyone's got one, and they all stink. laugh.gif tongue.gif

Thoughtful.

...and consciences are like watches-none's ever exactly correct but each believes his own (paraphrased from Alexander Pope, if I recall).
mortonjag 2007-05-14 11:24:35
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 14 2007, 11:21 AM) [snapback]271873[/snapback]
Gorillaz

zen carnival
mortonjag 2007-05-14 11:38:58
QUOTE(nach0king @ May 14 2007, 11:18 AM) [snapback]271869[/snapback]
Every other reference I've read from Huxley (the coiner) to Britannica and beyond defines it differently, and correctly.

Edit: I just looked up Chambers 21st C edition online:

You are now being a bit silly-I've just checked three on line references, all of which incorporate my understanding and yours.

For the record Huxley has long since (possibly) gone to meet his maker, yet I gave you definitions from Chambers 20th Century whose lexicographers state that Huxley coined agnosticism from the Greek 'agnostos'-unknown OR unknowable.

The fool says 'This is old so it must be good', while the greater fool says 'This is new so it must be better'.

I am correct and you are correct, and I don't believe I've stated anywhere that you are 'wrong', merely queried your position and asked for clarification.
mortonjag 2007-05-14 12:00:18
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 14 2007, 11:26 AM) [snapback]271880[/snapback]
Ladysmith Black Mambazo

operation ivy
mortonjag 2007-05-14 12:04:06
QUOTE(NonTon @ May 14 2007, 11:54 AM) [snapback]271894[/snapback]
Are you both arguing over whether it means "unknown" or "unknowable"? Cos I don't think there's a definitive answer.

Love the sig quote by the way, for obvious reasons laugh.gif

We are discussing the interpretation! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-14 12:05:42
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 14 2007, 11:48 AM) [snapback]271891[/snapback]
Gus McPherson
Come to think of it MJ has been quiet on this thread.

mad.gif
Escape
mortonjag 2007-05-14 13:18:49
QUOTE(nach0king @ May 14 2007, 12:10 PM) [snapback]271898[/snapback]
I cited Chambers 21st C, and Brittanica. Both are more recent than your source.

It renders the word pretty much useless if it just means "not known". But, hey, have at it.
We're discussing it wink.gif To debase it by just discussing whether it means we have the knowledge isn't uncommon - but it's still incorrect. I'd much prefer if these people came up with their own word, but oh well biggrin.gif

I laughed for a good five minutes when I saw that bit last night, I had to quote it biggrin.gif

Now you are being silly-why should I want to 'have at it' after we've reached common ground?

I'm fairly certain that few if any of the posters had to question themselves on their understanding of an 'agnostic'-someone who 'doesn't know', so for practical purposes I stand by my choice of poll options.

In terms of more serious debate, I've conceded your point in terms of multiple interpretation. The problem then arises of course when you say, 'I'm an agnostic because I am unable to know-.does that suggest the knowledge exists and is hidden or that the knowledge is non existent?

I suspect your answer will be 'I don't know because I'm unable to know'.

I'm more than happy with 'I don't know-AT THIS MOMENT'.
mortonjag 2007-05-14 13:21:52
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 14 2007, 12:13 PM) [snapback]271900[/snapback]
Lucky

Sorry MJ, was only jesting rolleyes.gif

laugh.gif
bag
mortonjag 2007-05-14 13:26:07
QUOTE(NonTon @ May 14 2007, 01:06 PM) [snapback]271935[/snapback]
I'd rather bash him for his views on moral relativism and the role of the Church in espousing Reason but I can't be arsed joining in with the bigots when there isn't a proper debate going on.

Careful boy-name and shame if you're going to come out with stuff like that!
mortonjag 2007-05-14 13:28:50
QUOTE(NonTon @ May 14 2007, 01:18 PM) [snapback]271941[/snapback]
I would say you were a right-wing imperialistic t***, but you could probably kick seven shades of sh*t out of me so i'll decline laugh.gif

Seriously though, you seem like an alright guy when politics isn't the issue.

enjoys analrapist at the bottom
mortonjag 2007-05-14 13:29:48
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 14 2007, 01:23 PM) [snapback]271946[/snapback]
Johnny.

pack
mortonjag 2007-05-14 19:43:50
QUOTE(nach0king @ May 14 2007, 02:02 PM) [snapback]271962[/snapback]
Neither, in my opinion. It means the knowledge cannot be attained, but it objectively exists.

(In my opinion.)

Seems pretty tautological now!

I clearly recall having an extremely heated discussion with my younger brother some 30 plus years ago. At the time he was a theology student, and we were on about faith, belief, and fact.

All I stated from the outset was that I reckoned that from all the evidence available at the time it was impossible to prove or disprove the existence of God. FFS for a really clever guy he tied himself up in theoretical knots for over an hour, and ended up calling me 'a sad b*****d', which was sad given that he's almost my double!

If knowledge objectively exists but cannot be obtained your lack of it renders you agnostic-the reason for the inability is secondary to the basic argument.

(In my opinion.) unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-14 19:51:07
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ May 14 2007, 01:26 PM) [snapback]271949[/snapback]
Another arguement where you either have to be on one side or another.

Personally I'm pro-choice / pro-life - and where feasible the choice should always be pro-life.

However, there are numerous occasions where I can see the option to abort as the 'right' option - it is not a choice between the better of two evils (I also question by which benchmark do you define evil). For example why should a woman be forced to carry an unconsented or unviable pregnancy to full-term given that we have the medical skills to alivate this pain. I do not suggest that a 'lifestyle choice' should be adequate reason but appreciate that it is better to offer legal treatment rather than having to deal with botched 'traditional'cures or backstreet clinics. But I am definately against abortion based on designer based genetic decisions (it's not a boy, it doesn't have blue eyes).

unsure.gif ScotinBelgie

I like your general drift Scotty, especially your thoughts on benchmarks for evil-why don't you pop into the garden of Eden and grab the first big apple you see-seemingly that puts the world to rights! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-14 19:53:11
QUOTE(franco @ May 14 2007, 02:05 PM) [snapback]271963[/snapback]
I was thinking that too, until i compared her with the likes of John Motson, and then you realise that really she's no worse. The problem is not that she's a she, just that she's rotten! Would agree with you in general though, females involved in sports reporting are generally hopeless.

in the opinions of men?
mortonjag 2007-05-14 19:55:54
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ May 14 2007, 04:22 PM) [snapback]272069[/snapback]
i noticed that as well. looks like someone on the bbc website has a sense of humour.

you wouldn't catch dougie with an expression like that. so unrefined.

...needs a pony tail, cowboy boots, a fag, and a brass neck!
mortonjag 2007-05-14 20:00:00
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 14 2007, 02:56 PM) [snapback]271996[/snapback]
As above.
http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/stories/story.php?id=8580

I see B&Q and Next are moving to the Port beside the new Tesco's. Whilst I am delighted that the area is bringing in companies like this I still wonder what the council is doing to promote the great town that is Gourock. On my day trips down their with my family I am dissappointed to see that nothing is getting done and it is rapidly fading to a ghost town.

Please discuss.

Those things tend to be cyclical. Cowal went through a really low phase when the American fleet left, and is now back to being a pretty attractive place IMO.

Gourock has too much going for it in terms of situation and scenery to ever become a 'ghost'.
mortonjag 2007-05-14 20:03:55
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 14 2007, 07:42 PM) [snapback]272122[/snapback]
Korn

new kids on the block
mortonjag 2007-05-14 20:05:09
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 14 2007, 07:43 PM) [snapback]272123[/snapback]
Streetie

cornery
mortonjag 2007-05-14 20:09:09
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 14 2007, 08:06 PM) [snapback]272134[/snapback]
Sean

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
believin'
mortonjag 2007-05-14 20:13:00
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 14 2007, 08:07 PM) [snapback]272135[/snapback]
Klaxons

sub arachnoid space
mortonjag 2007-05-14 20:14:06
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 14 2007, 08:13 PM) [snapback]272140[/snapback]
Bye bye.

shopaholic
mortonjag 2007-05-14 20:18:19
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 14 2007, 08:14 PM) [snapback]272143[/snapback]
Eternal

lynyrd skynyrd
mortonjag 2007-05-14 20:19:36
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 14 2007, 08:16 PM) [snapback]272148[/snapback]
Shane McGowan

rotweiler
mortonjag 2007-05-14 20:22:55 dust radio
mortonjag 2007-05-14 20:31:20
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 14 2007, 08:29 PM) [snapback]272166[/snapback]
warm

cinders
mortonjag 2007-05-14 20:32:57
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 14 2007, 08:29 PM) [snapback]272167[/snapback]
Kings of Leon

naked funk
mortonjag 2007-05-14 20:38:31 Let the pathetic Feegie smackhead enjoy his relief FFS-he's only doing his best.
mortonjag 2007-05-14 20:41:16
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 14 2007, 08:37 PM) [snapback]272178[/snapback]
Players

fags
mortonjag 2007-05-14 20:44:27
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 14 2007, 08:42 PM) [snapback]272185[/snapback]
Cigars

churchill
mortonjag 2007-05-14 20:45:33
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 14 2007, 08:38 PM) [snapback]272179[/snapback]
Kasabian

n e r d
mortonjag 2007-05-14 20:48:32
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 14 2007, 08:45 PM) [snapback]272190[/snapback]
Insurance

endowment
mortonjag 2007-05-14 20:50:44
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 14 2007, 08:46 PM) [snapback]272192[/snapback]
Del Amitri

indigo girls
mortonjag 2007-05-14 20:51:25
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 14 2007, 08:48 PM) [snapback]272196[/snapback]
Policy

stationy
mortonjag 2007-05-14 20:53:28
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ May 14 2007, 08:51 PM) [snapback]272202[/snapback]
erudite and always relevant. an incisive mind.

latter day Oscar Wilde wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-14 20:54:14
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 14 2007, 08:53 PM) [snapback]272204[/snapback]
Peopley

keekly
mortonjag 2007-05-14 21:11:58
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 14 2007, 08:54 PM) [snapback]272207[/snapback]
Got to agree there. Men think it is their divine right to know more about football than a woman! tongue.gif

...in the same way as women think it's their divine right to have the babies!
mortonjag 2007-05-14 21:11:59
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 14 2007, 08:54 PM) [snapback]272207[/snapback]
Got to agree there. Men think it is their divine right to know more about football than a woman! tongue.gif

...in the same way as women think it's their divine right to have the babies!
mortonjag 2007-05-14 22:05:55
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 14 2007, 08:52 PM) [snapback]272203[/snapback]
Simply Red

d:ream
mortonjag 2007-05-14 22:08:23
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 14 2007, 09:58 PM) [snapback]272238[/snapback]
repeat

ditto
mortonjag 2007-05-14 22:14:24
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 14 2007, 09:16 PM) [snapback]272221[/snapback]
Funnily enough if men could have babies then i am sure woman would be more than happy to pass over that role tongue.gif

I'm not so sure-they'd probably want to pass over the pregnancy and delivery bit-but after that-well it's all just hypothetical but maternal instinct and all that!
mortonjag 2007-05-14 22:15:59
QUOTE(WillowMan @ May 14 2007, 09:02 PM) [snapback]272215[/snapback]
How do you actually know cos you'd have been fooled by IT.

So unless you've slept with every person you've ever kissed then you won't know 100% tongue.gif

Does that mean shagged?
mortonjag 2007-05-14 22:16:57
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 14 2007, 10:15 PM) [snapback]272245[/snapback]
statto

tomato
mortonjag 2007-05-14 22:20:31
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 14 2007, 10:18 PM) [snapback]272249[/snapback]
fruit

bowl
mortonjag 2007-05-14 22:28:02 IMO the 'hardest' away fans are the absent ones. We hardly ever got any atmosphere going at Scapa last season. Hopefully things are about to improve.
mortonjag 2007-05-14 22:31:10
QUOTE(maurtaun @ May 14 2007, 10:29 PM) [snapback]272254[/snapback]
milk

maid
mortonjag 2007-05-14 23:30:22
QUOTE(nach0king @ May 14 2007, 10:31 PM) [snapback]272257[/snapback]
How is it tautological? I'm opining one thing and stating the other thing, in any case.

What renders me agnostic is my inability to know. I've already explained why.

The argument about the meaning of agnosticism is becoming repetitive and circular nach0-we have a lot of common ground, but your last statement is illogical.

You are a very knowledgable man who clearly does not suffer from an 'inability to know'. It is the unavailability of requisite fact (whether or not that fact exists) which renders you, me, or anyone 'agnostic'.

If you are perfectly sighted and from behind a screen I ask you 'What's in my right hand', you might say 'I don't know if there's anything in your right hand'. That, NOT because you are incapable of sight-simply because the object (if there is one) is unavailable to your sensory system.

I suspect you are still determined to have your alternative definition of agnosticism stand-fine-you, and Huxley, and Brittanica, and Chambers 21st have all put their own interpretation on a concept, and I've put mine! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-14 23:32:20
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 14 2007, 10:58 PM) [snapback]272263[/snapback]
Brad Pitt

bear pit
mortonjag 2007-05-14 23:33:37
QUOTE(GMC @ May 14 2007, 11:07 PM) [snapback]272266[/snapback]
Stupid person, who is part of a large group which should not be underestimated.

member of same group?
mortonjag 2007-05-15 06:50:32
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 15 2007, 02:00 AM) [snapback]272283[/snapback]
I think you're going to struggle if you can't agree on what you mean by agnostic.

There is a huge (and very clear) difference between 'unknown' (aka not-yet-known) and 'unknowable'.

You seem to favour the unknown, whereas Nacho advocates the unknowable.

For what it's worth, I would side with Nacho on this one.

Considered agnostic to me means you've thought about God and come to the conclusion that her existence is unknowable (being beyond the material world), and not that you've weighed the evidence and found it equivocal.

Simple, really.

(I do however agree that Nacho is silly tongue.gif ).

The whole argument started because I described nach0's definitions as 'complicated'. Other posters clearly agreed but he wasn't content with my having kept the poll as 'user friendly' as possible.

I probably wouldn't have gone on so much had he not used expressions like-'You'll either use the correct definition of words or you won't', and 'Every other reference I've read defines it differently AND CORRECTLY.

I prefer to approach the etymology from the original Greek-in that respect I don't need the help of a dictionary, or a celebrated theorist.

'Agnostic' refers to absence of knowledge-plain and simple as I intened it to be for the poll.

Although the word is universally applied to 'God' nowadays, and has been complicated by Huxley's concept of 'agnosticism', you can theoretically be agnostic of any fact, and in medicine the term 'agnosia' derived from the same root words describes a condition resulting from brain damage.

In that latter condition a patient is truly UNABLE to know, whereas the repeated exchange of cause and effect have confused the 'agnostic' debate.

I see it this way:-

I am able to know' (capable of knowledge) is the same as 'I CAN know'.

The requisite facts (if they exists) are currently absent, so at this solitary moment in time I MAY not know-that does NOT render me incapable, it merely veils the information or its absence from me at present.

I suspect I'll now be accused of splitting hairs, but


IT'S HIS FAULT

HE STARTED IT

HE KNOWS HE'S RIGHT

I THINK WE'RE BOTH RIGHT

GOD HELP US

Amen sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-15 07:00:19
QUOTE(shedhead @ May 15 2007, 06:37 AM) [snapback]272289[/snapback]
I wonder how many other football messageboards get into such deep theological debate.
Morton, the thinking mans team. biggrin.gif

laugh.gif

It's NOT a theological debate- it's an etymological one!
mortonjag 2007-05-15 07:42:28
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ May 15 2007, 07:03 AM) [snapback]272292[/snapback]
where else would you approach the etymology from - the unrelated arapaho? anyway, you can't choose your own meaning for words. the point of language is to make yourself understood, and when someone insists on using a word differently from the rest of the community, then his meaning will not be clear. that's why we have dictionaries.

i think that a marathon bar is still a feckin marathon bar, but if i was to ask for one in the states instead of a snickers then i'd go hungry.

That is obvious.

In each reference I have checked, the dictionary definition has given 'agnostic' as one who 'DOES NOT KNOW',

or cannot know.

Lexicograpy obeys strict rules, with the primary, or more commonly accepted definition first.

Nach0 claims that there has recently been a reversal of that priority, which I can't confirm, but in no way am I 'making up' definitions for the sake of the argument.

Of course we have to move with the times-when I was a teenager we knew what a 'poofter', or 'homo' was, but 'gay' referred to colours etc.

You will always find older people clinging to what they've learned over the years, but some can still do it with an open mind.

As I stated earlier, 'The fool says, 'This is old, so it must be good'-the greater fool says 'This is new, so it must be better'.
mortonjag 2007-05-15 07:44:48
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 14 2007, 11:48 PM) [snapback]272272[/snapback]
laugh.gif

cheeky boy!
mortonjag 2007-05-15 07:45:48
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 14 2007, 11:49 PM) [snapback]272273[/snapback]
ibrox

park
mortonjag 2007-05-15 07:48:37
QUOTE(edd @ May 15 2007, 12:49 AM) [snapback]272279[/snapback]
feminism should be about equal rights for men and women, but then some feminists think that the only way to redress the unbalance caused by years of discrimination against women in the workplace is to impose years of discrimination against men in the workplace, thus they come across as "female chauvinist pigs", or something like that.

the fact is, though, men and women are different - men are, on the whole, physically stronger, only women have babies and you can't speak to women the same way you speak to men. if you want equal rights regardless of the differences between the sexes then that should go for everything in life, not just work, so unmarried fathers should automatically get the same rights as mothers etc.

laugh.gif

I always do, and they can 'like it or lump it'.

'Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander'!
mortonjag 2007-05-15 07:50:06
QUOTE(Robert the Bruce @ May 15 2007, 12:32 AM) [snapback]272276[/snapback]
MJ, you did say you liked your woman to have balls tongue.gif

'balls of steel'! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-15 07:54:10
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 15 2007, 07:46 AM) [snapback]272298[/snapback]
And just how difficult is that?

For players like Lennon and Ferguson-NOT VERY,but the point being made is that that is the last resort when no opening is available, and it's a damned sight better than losing possession as lesser players often do in a similar situation.

Compare to young Scott McLaughlin-he is excellent at it, but in his case it's normally the first option.
mortonjag 2007-05-15 07:56:07
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 15 2007, 07:54 AM) [snapback]272303[/snapback]
You're such a cad biggrin.gif

Computer assisted dement! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-15 07:58:21
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 15 2007, 07:35 AM) [snapback]272294[/snapback]
I wouldn't ask for a marathon or a snickers since they started putting bits of dead animals in them.

Not the same without the squirmy bits, eh DE? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-15 08:01:27
QUOTE(Eric M. @ May 14 2007, 10:27 PM) [snapback]272252[/snapback]
In May 1965 while with Morton both Kai and Jorn Sorensen played for a European select at Stoke in a testimonial for the retiring Stan Mathews. Also in the side were Yashin, Puskas, Di Stefano and Jim Baxter. Apparently Kai had a great game and this probably earned him his chance at Rangers. Jorn Sorensen replaced Di Stefano at half time.
These two guys were class. Jorn also signed for Rangers but a bad injury cut short his stay.

Jorn Sorensen had EVERYTHING a midfielder needs in abundance. Inspirational to watch.
mortonjag 2007-05-15 08:39:50
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 15 2007, 08:11 AM) [snapback]272307[/snapback]
My point is that in the situations you describe, an accurate pass square or behind to a team mate should not be beyond the ken of any professional footballer, whether or not he gets paid in hundreds like McLaughlin or in tens of thousands like Lennon or Ferguson. A square pass ? So what, do you want me to applaud ?

No I wouldn't applaud a 'square pass' by an amateur footballer. I do, however, recognise the ability to use it as a last resort instead of losing valuable possession. Think of our whole midfield this season, and in particular our 'stars'-Midge, Jamie, and Gowser (whom I see as a midfielder).
I can't recall the number of times each one of them totally spoiled an attacking opportunity by not knowing when enough was enough, and 'running into a brick wall' instead of making a simple square or backward pass while running into space.
mortonjag 2007-05-15 08:41:58
QUOTE(manchesterton @ May 15 2007, 08:15 AM) [snapback]272308[/snapback]
and ride

android
mortonjag 2007-05-15 08:43:32
QUOTE(manchesterton @ May 15 2007, 08:18 AM) [snapback]272309[/snapback]
Likes cuddly bears holding blue sex toys biggrin.gif

Can't tell an educated monkey from an ugly overweight Hun.
mortonjag 2007-05-15 08:52:58
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 15 2007, 08:46 AM) [snapback]272314[/snapback]
I can't disagree. But it doesn't make Lennon and/or Ferguson great. As I say, we should expect such a quality as a minimum from professional footballers ( although to be fair to McGowan, he's still learning his trade).

'Cog in the machine, ' 'leadership', and 'desire', were also mentioned by the original poster-who was quick to point out that Lennon is 'no Ronaldinho'.
mortonjag 2007-05-15 08:57:34 Where are they? It's the closed season FFS-oh well, here goes- I have it on spurious authority from a totally unreliable source whose identity I cannot reveal for professional reasons, that Martin Clark is awaiting an Apronectomy! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-15 09:08:32
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 15 2007, 08:54 AM) [snapback]272316[/snapback]
No - I don't think the etymology of agnostic is in question (it's a 19th century neologism from the Greek, right), more a question of the sense conveyed by the word in the context of religion (i.e. semantics).

You might have thought it was all about etymology, but I thought it was about epistemology - the interplay between knowledge and belief, and in this case, gnosticism and theism.

'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,' it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.'

I agree, with the rider that MY INTERPRETATION of 'an agnostic' which I kept simple for the poll, was initially challenged on the basis of others' interpretation. I was then told 'I was wrong', and dictionary definitions were cited in an attempt to prove that.
As with your 'Humpty Dumpty' statement-indeed-I am what I am, and my interpretation of agnosticism is no more or less valid than any other's, be he Huxley, the Editor of Brittanica, or our esteemed Moderator.
mortonjag 2007-05-15 09:12:41
QUOTE(cornbeef @ May 15 2007, 09:04 AM) [snapback]272318[/snapback]
Which is something 'masons' have done in their close season I presume. (I know you cant tell us MJ)

laugh.gif
You're welcome to shake hands with me anytime!
mortonjag 2007-05-15 09:15:44
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 15 2007, 09:04 AM) [snapback]272320[/snapback]
Yes indeed. Ronaldinho is great. Lennon is a cog. biggrin.gif

A little spikey topped thing which spends its time making revolutions.
mortonjag 2007-05-15 09:19:41
QUOTE(ThornTON @ May 15 2007, 09:17 AM) [snapback]272326[/snapback]
Am I missing something, or is there hidden meaning other than Martin Clark is a bit tubby and needs a tummy tuck? unsure.gif

Don't need to shake yours! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-15 09:38:26
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 15 2007, 09:30 AM) [snapback]272331[/snapback]
cyberman

spacewoman
mortonjag 2007-05-15 09:41:33
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 15 2007, 09:40 AM) [snapback]272336[/snapback]
Jane Fonda

Rhoda Honda
mortonjag 2007-05-15 09:58:19
QUOTE(rafa the spic @ May 15 2007, 01:09 AM) [snapback]272280[/snapback]
dont be like that guys, you were all slagging us all season saying we would be relegated, as we were not let us gloat, no debt, new stadium, spl club, things are going well for us, so let us milk it,

good luck next season, its a good league div 1, but a tough one, some of your players wont cut it, you need battlers to get out that league, that big skinny striker cant thiink of his name wont do, seen him in div 1 before, awful

But good luck

James McPake left ages ago Rafa!

Anyhow I'm quite pleased you've kept out of our road-football's a funny old game and we could well leapfrog you next season. Money in the bank is just that-it won't automatically buy success-Mileson's personally worth about four times what you've got, and his 'escape' was more miraculous than yours.

You are right about our lack of muscle, but we also desperately need an experienced 'old head' in the middle of the park.
mortonjag 2007-05-15 10:03:51
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 15 2007, 09:51 AM) [snapback]272340[/snapback]
??
Honda Civic

R type
mortonjag 2007-05-15 10:07:18
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 15 2007, 09:53 AM) [snapback]272341[/snapback]
Was anyone watching this? Everything I see about this...organisation only seems to make me want rid of them more.

Fair play to tolerance and everything, but the way this mob are acting makes it very hard to accept them as anything more than a money-grubbing cult.

Which is EXACTLY what they are, but they 'play a percentages game', so they'll always manage to get enough 'gullibles' in to maintain their momentum unless some kind of legislation stops them.
mortonjag 2007-05-15 10:11:30
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ May 15 2007, 10:10 AM) [snapback]272349[/snapback]
Didn't see it. Have you visited Westminster Abbey, St Peter's etc.?

FFS they've muscled in there too? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-15 10:19:48
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 15 2007, 10:13 AM) [snapback]272353[/snapback]
Can't be arsed doing a bit of research myself - and I've always been kind of inquisitive but never followed up on it ...... sooo...... can someone give me a potted history on what they're about and what the gig is ?

Oh, and serious answers please ....... I'm in work so a story is better than links .... especially if they're links that will get me fired if I click them

Ta

TonInDublin

This is just a personal take tid-My (then) girfriend and I were in Edinburgh about 35 years ago-young students and 'wet behind the ears'. We were 'buttonholed' by a pleasant young woman with a clipboard who asked if we'd 'like to have a personality test' to which we agreed 'for a laugh'.

For YEARS afterwards we were bombarded with literature and high pressure to purchase books and tapes. We just kept ignoring them, but they traced us through three addresses before they finally gave up.

I never bothered to read any of the stuff, but it seems to be foisting their own version of 'person centred' therapy on you, in order to make you 'better' and 'more successful', but of course, 'everything at a price'!
mortonjag 2007-05-15 10:25:12
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 15 2007, 10:17 AM) [snapback]272355[/snapback]
He once called me clever and gave me a cyber applause, so is clearly a man of excellent insight and a wonderful judge of character. Oh, and he's got a motrobike picture with a girl with large doos who looks like a young Suzi Quattro (the girl, not the doos) so he's clearly a well balanced heterosexual male, a species that's rapidly dwindling with the rise in the number of golfers on this site.

TonInDublin

A man of experience, perception and wit-dare I suggest a kindred spirit? huh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-15 10:28:57
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 15 2007, 10:27 AM) [snapback]272365[/snapback]
VTEC

variability
mortonjag 2007-05-15 10:29:52
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 15 2007, 10:27 AM) [snapback]272363[/snapback]
Fancies TiD.

jealous young man
mortonjag 2007-05-15 10:36:14
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 15 2007, 10:31 AM) [snapback]272372[/snapback]
Obsessed with a cuddly monkey.

occasionally gets facts right
mortonjag 2007-05-15 10:42:49
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ May 15 2007, 10:38 AM) [snapback]272381[/snapback]
Scientologies, Mormons, Catholics in fact most organised religions - all money grabbing cults

ScotinBelgie

Different motives between Scientology and RC Church I suspect.
mortonjag 2007-05-15 10:46:58
QUOTE(franco @ May 15 2007, 10:31 AM) [snapback]272371[/snapback]
i heard she's divorced bobby, come off the drugs and is going to release a new album later this year.

SOURCE?
mortonjag 2007-05-15 10:48:26
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 15 2007, 10:47 AM) [snapback]272389[/snapback]
Mutual appreciation from a clearly perceptive, and wise man of the world.

P.S. The lady on the bike is Danielle Lloyd I believe TID.

Doesn't understand the rules! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-15 10:52:40
QUOTE(M4RKO @ May 15 2007, 10:43 AM) [snapback]272385[/snapback]
my tongue is firmly planted in my cheek here by the way!
Has anyone tried fresh placenta with a sweet chilli sauce? It's a frightening meal!

Nothing wrong with fresh placenta-when I was a junior in Stobhill, the old midwives described how at home deliveries in Springburn, it was regulary fed to 'the dug'. Waste not, want not.

'Broon or rid soce' I'd guess if it required spicing up.
mortonjag 2007-05-15 10:57:20
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 15 2007, 10:50 AM) [snapback]272393[/snapback]
diversity

university
mortonjag 2007-05-15 10:58:16
QUOTE(xangelx @ May 15 2007, 10:56 AM) [snapback]272399[/snapback]
Seems to moan a lot but i'm sure he's really a nice man deep down smile.gif

peeping tom
mortonjag 2007-05-15 11:14:29
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ May 15 2007, 11:11 AM) [snapback]272418[/snapback]
sussys lol laugh.gif

suspension
mortonjag 2007-05-15 11:17:25
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ May 15 2007, 11:15 AM) [snapback]272422[/snapback]
red card

hardy
mortonjag 2007-05-15 11:18:59
QUOTE(franco @ May 15 2007, 11:15 AM) [snapback]272423[/snapback]
a guy in the pub who claims it was pillow talk. i'm sure it was true, you should have heard what he knew about kylie.

...NOT that bit about her and JM? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-15 11:20:12
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 15 2007, 11:18 AM) [snapback]272426[/snapback]
Laurel

wreath
mortonjag 2007-05-15 11:23:05
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 15 2007, 11:21 AM) [snapback]272430[/snapback]
funeral

wake
mortonjag 2007-05-15 12:57:06
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 15 2007, 12:25 PM) [snapback]272463[/snapback]
Ideas

thoughts
mortonjag 2007-05-15 12:58:31
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 15 2007, 12:26 PM) [snapback]272464[/snapback]
Knows how to work the rules!

understands the meaning of euphemism
mortonjag 2007-05-15 13:01:19
QUOTE(Robert the Bruce @ May 15 2007, 11:23 AM) [snapback]272432[/snapback]
Another religion?

Another lot of pee?

Saying that, i suppose Scientology is about as believable as any other religion.

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2007-05-15 13:07:53
QUOTE(xangelx @ May 15 2007, 01:05 PM) [snapback]272478[/snapback]
Dreams

nightmares
mortonjag 2007-05-15 13:09:08
QUOTE(xangelx @ May 15 2007, 12:58 PM) [snapback]272475[/snapback]
Radiohead

del amitri
mortonjag 2007-05-15 13:17:35 Where have all the rumours gone? I just hobbled out there for some zimmer polish, and my copy of FHM, and it's GONE!

mortonjag 2007-05-15 13:19:55
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 15 2007, 01:15 PM) [snapback]272489[/snapback]
Peter Crouch

Paul Mount
mortonjag 2007-05-15 13:22:11
QUOTE(Capuan @ May 15 2007, 01:20 PM) [snapback]272493[/snapback]
posts too early in the morning.

lazy
mortonjag 2007-05-15 13:27:37
QUOTE(Capuan @ May 15 2007, 01:23 PM) [snapback]272497[/snapback]
raving insomniac

naff diagnostician
mortonjag 2007-05-15 13:30:25
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 15 2007, 01:13 PM) [snapback]272486[/snapback]
N-Trance

earthwurm
mortonjag 2007-05-15 13:33:57
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 15 2007, 01:30 PM) [snapback]272501[/snapback]
Intriguing facination for pet primates.

confuses pets with partners
mortonjag 2007-05-15 13:34:49
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 15 2007, 01:28 PM) [snapback]272499[/snapback]
Peggy Mount

Piggy back
mortonjag 2007-05-15 13:43:18
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 15 2007, 12:08 PM) [snapback]272456[/snapback]
Still, you should get into Scientology on that - I mean plastic hats are inexpensive, and you sound like you'd get wrecked on two pints of watered down stout. Plenty left for super powers.

Anyway - this is about Scientology, not the Catholic Church. There's about a thousand threads dedicated to Vatican bashing already, so if the Young Atheist Team wouldn't mind keeping on topic...?

Always knew the Proddies were above that sort of thing! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-15 13:45:37
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 15 2007, 01:37 PM) [snapback]272504[/snapback]
I stand corrected MJ.
Intriguing facination for pet primate partners.

alliterator
mortonjag 2007-05-15 13:48:45
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 15 2007, 01:46 PM) [snapback]272511[/snapback]
Great at spooning

enjoys his yolks
mortonjag 2007-05-15 13:56:28
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 15 2007, 01:49 PM) [snapback]272517[/snapback]
Most of them, yes.

Come to think of it the atheists are probably to blame for most of the evil in the world, and they've got the ideal 'cop out'-they didn't know any better. Well...

'Lord-ah didnae ken'

'Well ye ken noo- OOT'. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-15 14:00:12 I have relatives in the Corstorphine area-well my avator has actually-nice bit but you won't get it for peanuts.
mortonjag 2007-05-15 14:02:45
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 15 2007, 01:58 PM) [snapback]272526[/snapback]
eggcellent banter

poached by the fringe
mortonjag 2007-05-15 14:04:18
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 15 2007, 01:38 PM) [snapback]272506[/snapback]
piggy bank

dirty money
mortonjag 2007-05-15 14:06:07
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ May 15 2007, 01:47 PM) [snapback]272512[/snapback]
AC/DC

capercaille
mortonjag 2007-05-15 14:07:05
QUOTE(lush @ May 15 2007, 02:05 PM) [snapback]272534[/snapback]
Lovely money.

campbell money? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-15 14:23:26
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 15 2007, 02:10 PM) [snapback]272540[/snapback]
Do some of them still fiddle, I'm mean in the musical sense of course, what else would I mean. rolleyes.gif

With a toot on the flute and the twiddle of the fiddle-O
Yer money in the middle like a herring in the griddle-O
Up down hands around coming to the wall-O
Hadn't we to pay to play with Father Murphy's ball?-O unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-15 14:27:18
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 15 2007, 02:25 PM) [snapback]272550[/snapback]
he'll only need the bear essentials if he lives there though....

Didn't used to be 'the pits'!
mortonjag 2007-05-15 14:29:11
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 15 2007, 02:20 PM) [snapback]272546[/snapback]
um, female? tongue.gif
eggstreme yolkmaker

ovoids confrontation
mortonjag 2007-05-15 14:34:26
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 15 2007, 02:26 PM) [snapback]272552[/snapback]
Nice array of twiddles and fiddles there jag, but is there not a letter missing from the entire ode-O?
S at the end of ball!

Edited to add that maybe only one is in existence. rolleyes.gif

Sorted! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-15 14:37:05
QUOTE(lush @ May 15 2007, 02:35 PM) [snapback]272566[/snapback]
wonga

donga
mortonjag 2007-05-15 14:38:51
QUOTE(dmc @ May 15 2007, 02:34 PM) [snapback]272564[/snapback]
Heaven 17

7th rail crew
mortonjag 2007-05-15 14:40:31
QUOTE(lush @ May 15 2007, 02:37 PM) [snapback]272568[/snapback]
hairy

mary
mortonjag 2007-05-15 14:41:59
QUOTE(lush @ May 15 2007, 02:33 PM) [snapback]272561[/snapback]
Jokes are mince. rolleyes.gif

flips off the beaten track
mortonjag 2007-05-15 14:49:22
QUOTE(lush @ May 15 2007, 02:41 PM) [snapback]272571[/snapback]
virgin

birth
mortonjag 2007-05-15 14:52:26
QUOTE(lush @ May 15 2007, 02:50 PM) [snapback]272582[/snapback]
sore

float
mortonjag 2007-05-15 14:59:59
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 15 2007, 02:52 PM) [snapback]272587[/snapback]
Sorry to dissapoint you, but I've no answer for you. Not a real one anyway.

Shall I just give you the kind of answer you want for the purposes of your next "gag"?

My favourite Priest is Fr. Gerry Nugent.

Serious question-What do you think of Father Gerry?

He was the priest at my daughter's wedding, and popular with everyone. I've had difficulty getting my head round subsequent events.
mortonjag 2007-05-15 15:02:55
QUOTE(lush @ May 15 2007, 03:00 PM) [snapback]272591[/snapback]
Spot on. (will maybe pm you one day).....forgot to say, ex Ravenscraig as well! wink.gif

She brings back memories of my first job (and drink)!
mortonjag 2007-05-15 15:04:05
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 15 2007, 03:03 PM) [snapback]272595[/snapback]
bath

plug
mortonjag 2007-05-15 15:10:34
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 15 2007, 03:06 PM) [snapback]272599[/snapback]
Megadeth

hepcat
mortonjag 2007-05-15 15:13:34
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 15 2007, 03:10 PM) [snapback]272603[/snapback]
...aye you in the very fast car, GIRUY.

Turbo charged Hippy van. tongue.gif

Is it an airport transfer taking a short-cut. blink.gif

Pity the sound effects ruin it! sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-15 15:14:23
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 15 2007, 03:13 PM) [snapback]272617[/snapback]
Cakes

tarts
mortonjag 2007-05-15 15:16:46
QUOTE(briggsTON @ May 15 2007, 03:15 PM) [snapback]272623[/snapback]
Cream

bun
mortonjag 2007-05-15 15:19:27
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 15 2007, 03:16 PM) [snapback]272628[/snapback]
Its 7 mins long, and u posted 3 mins after the original poster, so u didnt watch it all tongue.gif

laugh.gif Please don't tell me I missed a 'sting in the tail'- that bloody thing sounded even slower than half the tarted up 'wee boy' motors here with their huge exhausts, boom boom tinny stereos, and tiny engines!
mortonjag 2007-05-15 15:24:22
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 15 2007, 03:20 PM) [snapback]272640[/snapback]
And a problem keeping his todger in its pouch, and the problem of habitually lying.

Another wee point mick, if some other men abuse children and the authorities are made aware of this then the law will deal with that (if the people don't get the beast first).
Makes a mockery of all churches who use confidentiality and the in-house approach to child abuse though does it not?
Anyone within a house of god who is made aware of any innapropriate actions of their clergy should be duty bound to inform the police, if not and it then comes up at a later stage that certain people knew about the allegations, that person should also be brought before justice.

No hiding place for criminals, no sanctuary, religion is not above the law, even if they had a hand in making most of them.

Fair enough, and let the man who is without sin throw the first stone.
mortonjag 2007-05-15 15:25:10
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 15 2007, 03:24 PM) [snapback]272654[/snapback]
Slice

links
mortonjag 2007-05-15 15:26:52
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 15 2007, 03:24 PM) [snapback]272655[/snapback]
Wonder if its the same Beanz I know very well. unsure.gif

Has problem with flatulence?
mortonjag 2007-05-15 15:28:01
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 15 2007, 03:26 PM) [snapback]272661[/snapback]
Park

car
mortonjag 2007-05-15 15:30:22
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 15 2007, 03:18 PM) [snapback]272634[/snapback]
certain sections are turning into a bit of a jungle, apparently

Urban decay-sad to hear, but it's a fact of life.
mortonjag 2007-05-15 15:33:07
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 15 2007, 03:30 PM) [snapback]272676[/snapback]
I commit no sins, as I bow to no 'superior' being, can I throw the stone now?
He admitted it in court.

It would be a good day when we did leave abuse in the hands of the Courts, instead of the Churches.

laugh.gif

People who live in grass houses shouldn't stow thrones.
mortonjag 2007-05-15 15:34:15
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 15 2007, 03:31 PM) [snapback]272680[/snapback]
Here we go! tongue.gif

here we go
mortonjag 2007-05-15 15:35:59
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 15 2007, 03:35 PM) [snapback]272685[/snapback]
here we go! laugh.gif

here we go--oh
mortonjag 2007-05-15 15:37:32
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 15 2007, 03:36 PM) [snapback]272690[/snapback]
Away, away, away, away

We're the Ton
mortonjag 2007-05-15 15:39:28
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 15 2007, 03:28 PM) [snapback]272672[/snapback]
I don't! tongue.gif

Shares my non acquaintance with THE David Brennan wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-15 15:40:26
QUOTE(Deego @ May 15 2007, 03:39 PM) [snapback]272695[/snapback]
Pish.

bladder
mortonjag 2007-05-15 15:44:22
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 15 2007, 03:27 PM) [snapback]272663[/snapback]
Whit's gone unsure.gif Your zimmer or FHM??

Neither Weegie-I started a thread this morning bemoaning the lack of rumours-corn beef and thornTON posted on it-maybe some others-and when I came back with the Zimmer polish (it's up 20p BTW), the thread had disappeared!

VERY strange indeed! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-15 15:47:42
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 15 2007, 03:45 PM) [snapback]272710[/snapback]
Give us an I

I-D-turned sideways = 'one for the pot'.
mortonjag 2007-05-15 15:49:40
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 15 2007, 03:46 PM) [snapback]272712[/snapback]
An endoscope!

boozehound
mortonjag 2007-05-15 15:51:06
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 15 2007, 03:48 PM) [snapback]272721[/snapback]
Ear

wig
mortonjag 2007-05-15 15:52:39
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 15 2007, 03:42 PM) [snapback]272703[/snapback]
Or play with combustible materials. Or is that just daft, is the house itself not a combustible? unsure.gif

semi combustible unless you're loaded!
mortonjag 2007-05-15 15:53:34
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 15 2007, 03:52 PM) [snapback]272733[/snapback]
Wam.

bam
mortonjag 2007-05-15 15:55:02
QUOTE(Deego @ May 15 2007, 03:53 PM) [snapback]272740[/snapback]
rolleyes.gif

thank you..
mortonjag 2007-05-15 15:56:38
QUOTE(mortonjag @ May 15 2007, 03:49 PM) [snapback]272724[/snapback]
boozehound

think about it
mortonjag 2007-05-15 16:20:06
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 15 2007, 04:03 PM) [snapback]272774[/snapback]
If it is made of grass you might be loaded with hay-fever.

a pollen condition!
mortonjag 2007-05-15 16:21:04
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 15 2007, 04:16 PM) [snapback]272788[/snapback]
Testament Hoburn

shag
mortonjag 2007-05-15 16:31:00
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 15 2007, 04:12 PM) [snapback]272787[/snapback]
Swonk gnos eht

gonks hot news
mortonjag 2007-05-15 16:32:55
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 15 2007, 04:29 PM) [snapback]272798[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2007-05-15 16:34:09
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 15 2007, 04:28 PM) [snapback]272797[/snapback]
dissipate

pissy date
mortonjag 2007-05-15 17:40:37
QUOTE(edd @ May 15 2007, 05:30 PM) [snapback]272845[/snapback]
you can get in trouble if you go a bit ott in the workplace, though. some people are more sensitive than others but obviously a man who makes a sexist comment or joke to a woman is more likely to get in trouble than a woman who makes a sexist comment or joke to a man.

I knew what you were referring to edd, and I'd never deliberately offend anybody-well only if it was a return blow-, but in general terms I approach all people as equals until proven otherwise.
mortonjag 2007-05-15 17:46:37
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 15 2007, 05:24 PM) [snapback]272844[/snapback]
Cantankerous auld duffer ! rolleyes.gif tongue.gif
Cantankerous is probably spelt wrong but f*** it ! smile.gif

'Cantankerous' is fine, 'auld' is relatively accurate, and 'duffer' is the name of my Guinea Pig who died two years ago and lives in the big yellow welly.
mortonjag 2007-05-15 17:49:24
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 15 2007, 05:36 PM) [snapback]272847[/snapback]
Well i don't like to brag but.............Yes i shagged them both. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Edit to add - I'm talking about women. dry.gif

You didn't ever kiss your Mum? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-15 17:50:39
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 15 2007, 05:47 PM) [snapback]272853[/snapback]
segments

orange
mortonjag 2007-05-15 17:56:24
QUOTE(dmc @ May 15 2007, 05:40 PM) [snapback]272849[/snapback]
Style Council

latino velvet
mortonjag 2007-05-15 17:58:33
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 15 2007, 05:54 PM) [snapback]272858[/snapback]
illegitimate

skunk
mortonjag 2007-05-15 18:00:48
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 15 2007, 05:48 PM) [snapback]272854[/snapback]
is annoyed he doesn't get to spoon

collects egg spoons
mortonjag 2007-05-15 18:06:25
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ May 15 2007, 05:57 PM) [snapback]272860[/snapback]
Thanks Everyone , I sure will be comtributing to the lets get a bus thread !! I really fancy Leith , the new flats at the waterside look awsome and aint that expensive if you are flatsharing ..

I was offered a position 2day so depending on what salary they confirm for me 2moz I will be looking to move thru over the weekend or early next weekend .

Im gonna be General manager here Faith
Thanks again for all your info , Il be maybe putting up areas randomly as I search for a flat 2night so please keep a wee eye and help me out

Scott

Congratulations-I'm sure you and edinton will be able to help each other -(purely in a business sense I hasten to add!)
mortonjag 2007-05-15 18:07:34
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 15 2007, 06:05 PM) [snapback]272864[/snapback]
Some entrepid adventurers are at this moment stuck on a sandbank off the Garvel with the Coastguard in attendance.

Leave it until the tide comes in, they will be fine. rolleyes.gif

..probably wearing wet England tops!
mortonjag 2007-05-15 18:08:23
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 15 2007, 06:07 PM) [snapback]272867[/snapback]
Honking

Hong Kong
mortonjag 2007-05-15 18:12:30
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 15 2007, 06:09 PM) [snapback]272871[/snapback]
Take That

those b*****d souls wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-15 18:16:46
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 15 2007, 06:14 PM) [snapback]272880[/snapback]
Jag its the overtaking vehicle you are to keep your eye on. rolleyes.gif

I'll play it again in the morning-it's nearly past my bedtime! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-15 18:19:06
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 15 2007, 06:08 PM) [snapback]272870[/snapback]
Smell

taste
mortonjag 2007-05-15 18:21:54
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 15 2007, 06:14 PM) [snapback]272879[/snapback]
T-Rex

xzibit
mortonjag 2007-05-15 18:23:36
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 15 2007, 06:19 PM) [snapback]272883[/snapback]
Senses

menses tongue.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-15 18:27:02
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 15 2007, 05:17 PM) [snapback]272839[/snapback]
That's naw paisley, Far too clean.

Then again, is that the love street floodlights in the background ?

I could swear those are the polis sniper platforms
mortonjag 2007-05-15 18:42:03
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 15 2007, 06:35 PM) [snapback]272887[/snapback]
John!

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
willie
mortonjag 2007-05-15 18:45:00
QUOTE(dmc @ May 15 2007, 06:39 PM) [snapback]272891[/snapback]
Good Charlotte

E-rotic
mortonjag 2007-05-15 18:48:06
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 15 2007, 02:29 PM) [snapback]272558[/snapback]
very pedantic, but ThornTon hasn't been on so someone has to do it rolleyes.gif

You've been allowing ThornTon to do it- you should be ashamed of yourself! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-15 18:49:44
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 15 2007, 06:48 PM) [snapback]272899[/snapback]
william

conquerer
mortonjag 2007-05-15 18:56:04
QUOTE(cornbeef @ May 15 2007, 06:42 PM) [snapback]272893[/snapback]
It was probably the mention of Masons that tore it. Nacho (I suspect) is a Grand Wizard and was scared you'd be revealing too much. On the other hand it might have been the discussion about Club staff medical conditions (real or imagined)

...you're actually suggesting that it was removed for being naughty! unsure.gif

As far as I recall apronectomy was mentioned, followed by masons, then thornTon asked a couple of daft questions about handshakes, and that was it-or did I miss something MASSIVE? sleep.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-15 18:57:02
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 15 2007, 06:55 PM) [snapback]272906[/snapback]
It's not that strange, prices go up on pretty much everything.

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-15 19:00:32
QUOTE(para @ May 15 2007, 06:50 PM) [snapback]272902[/snapback]
As mentioned elsewhere Hal Stewart tapped into the danes before anyone else

How did he do it was there a connection with Denmark etc

To this day I dont why he chose the great danes he did but not many if any let Hal down
Was Kenny skovdam Hals last dane

I can't get you a link, but if you type in...jonaton danes...you should be able to see an old morton on line article which may help.
mortonjag 2007-05-15 19:02:18
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 15 2007, 06:51 PM) [snapback]272903[/snapback]
Conkers

bonkers
mortonjag 2007-05-15 19:03:47
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 15 2007, 06:47 PM) [snapback]272896[/snapback]
Not in a sexual way dry.gif
Call me old fashioned.......

I just took your post at face value! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-15 19:04:35
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 15 2007, 07:03 PM) [snapback]272916[/snapback]
Mental

arithmetic
mortonjag 2007-05-15 19:12:09
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 15 2007, 07:05 PM) [snapback]272920[/snapback]
Sums

additions
mortonjag 2007-05-15 19:17:17
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 15 2007, 06:49 PM) [snapback]272901[/snapback]
Clap your hands say yeah

hall and otes
mortonjag 2007-05-15 19:25:04
QUOTE(WillowMan @ May 15 2007, 07:12 PM) [snapback]272924[/snapback]
laugh.gif
Or.....

HeeShe HeeShe tongue.gif

Reminds me of a lullaby-hush 'ee, hush 'ee hush 'ee, Bo, which my Auntie Kate used to sing to the weans in her flat in Trafalgar St.

Probably haven't thought about that for over forty years! huh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-16 06:13:57
QUOTE(JonaTon @ May 16 2007, 12:33 AM) [snapback]273085[/snapback]
From my article :
I'm sure some of the older guys on here could give you more detail as I'm pretty sure we signed more Danes than those that I listed.

They must be archived somewhere JonaTon-every time I try to recall them I seem to think of yet another. It would be good therapy for the anally retentive to could compile an exhaustive list, though I'm not quite sure where to start.
mortonjag 2007-05-16 06:18:10 Is undersoil heating still a prerequisite? I'm sure Alibi, or somebody else has stated that it's merely a requirement that the pitch shall not be unsuitable because of frost so that alternative methods are an option.

If the SPL is our goal, we might as well strike while the iron's hot IMO.
mortonjag 2007-05-16 06:30:33
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 16 2007, 03:52 AM) [snapback]273109[/snapback]
http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/stories/story.php?id=8592
Jorn Sorenson is on the left.
Who are the 2 Ton players in the middle ?

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Preben Arentoft and John Madsen ?

Arentoft with the jug lugs and ???

Know the face and can't get the name. Might be Lief Nielsen with hoops on, or Carl Bertelsen, but none of our Danish outfield players had a Sanny/Crouch stature, yet that guy's pretty tall.
mortonjag 2007-05-16 06:55:06
QUOTE(Benin Dahomey @ May 15 2007, 11:40 PM) [snapback]273065[/snapback]
i voted athiest.

i consider myself to be a committed athiest. i do not think it is possible to give an argument that proves that god does not exist. what i do think is that if you consider all the things that are attributed to god it is possible to prove alternative explanations (i.e. evolution for the existence and diversity of life, especially given its apparent order and design). by doing so we can reach the knowledge that god does not exist.

(some people might have problems with this use of the term 'knowledge'. they may demand that knowledge be arrived at by induction, for example. what i am arguing is that we arrive at the conclusion that god does not exist by inference to the best explanation, and so it still properly qualifies as knowledge)

neo-darwinism (see Dawkins for example), or some other form of evolutionary theory, offers us this best explanation. sensible people have known for a long time that postulating god as the creator of the world and all the life in it (i.e. the argument from design) is a flawed argument. for example hume, writing in the 1740's, was well aware of the problems with this belief. hume's main problem with the argument from design was that the conclusion outstrips the evidence (i.e. there is a lot of evil and hardship in a world supposedly created by a benevolent god).

after detailing the problems with the argument from design, however, hume famously caved-in and appears to have suggested that god must have indeed created the world (there are some fascinating debates among scholars regarding whether or not hume was an athiest). the problem for hume, and indeed anyone pre-darwin, was that there was only two options available to him, god or random chance. to any intelligent person at the time god was the only reasonable explanation for the world around us.

darwin, of course, changed this by putting a third option on the table (natural selection). darwin has allowed us to be intellectually fulfilled athiests. denying the existence of god is no longer unreasonable. in fact, the tables have now turned, and with the fact of evolution it is becoming more and more unreasonable not to deny the existence of god.

The problem with this thread has not been unqualified belief-you either believe in God, or you don't, and IMHO it's a total waste of time indulging in quasi logical debate when essential facts are absent.

It's the 'in-betweens' who have been the problem.

I 'can' know as my mental faculties are intact, I 'may' know only if I obtain more information, but at this moment I simply DON'T know.

For what it's worth, I also BELIEVE that the existence of 'God' is extremely unlikely. I guess that makes me an agnostic atheist! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-16 07:21:13
QUOTE(shedhead @ May 16 2007, 06:48 AM) [snapback]273116[/snapback]
Wow , another thread attacking the Catholic Church. Is that 5 in as many days. You lot seem to hate us more than the Rangers.

The thread's supposed to be about scientology which ain't a religion IMO.

You're right about the debate having deviated from the main track, but it's not become so much an attack on the RCC as an attack on Mick's obviously entrenched fundamentalism.

Anyone who claims that the Vatican does not cream off vast sums of money from worshippers is misguided, but it IS done in the name of religion, and much of it IS ploughed back into 'good works'.

Scientology is simply a form of pyramid selling in which your smart /gullible ratio determines how near you get to the financial pinnacle before you plunge into the big bad fire.
mortonjag 2007-05-16 07:29:13
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 15 2007, 11:12 PM) [snapback]273055[/snapback]
Likes stuffed animals.

Occasionally confuses singular with plural.
mortonjag 2007-05-16 07:33:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 16 2007, 01:59 AM) [snapback]273102[/snapback]
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Gidday Rossco,

do you really think that a didgeridoo up his rear end would be fatal ?

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Would certainly alter the tone of that stuff he comes away with!
mortonjag 2007-05-16 07:35:27
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ May 15 2007, 11:12 PM) [snapback]273054[/snapback]
Stainless

immaculate
mortonjag 2007-05-16 07:36:56
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 15 2007, 10:36 PM) [snapback]273035[/snapback]
Sleeper

Radiohead
mortonjag 2007-05-16 07:39:24
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 16 2007, 07:34 AM) [snapback]273124[/snapback]
Hmm, you either believe in God, or you don't...

These 'in-betweens' are indeed a bit of a problem.

In my view, if you concede that there's a remote possibility that God exists, you can't be an atheist. To be an atheist, you have to be a true believer. tongue.gif

Absolutely-hence the Smiley and the use of the 'tab of convenience' borrowed from those who like to complicate simplicity! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-16 07:47:10 wishes Willowman an 'ACE' birthday, and reminds him that she has her balls renewed every day.
mortonjag 2007-05-16 07:50:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 16 2007, 06:37 AM) [snapback]273115[/snapback]
with hoops on!

? ? ? ? ?

I am going blind ... I cannot see any bloody hoops.

Lief Nielsen

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I had been in Oz for years when the Ton signed Nielsen from some club in America... must have been the late 1960s.

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mortonjag, surely the photo in the Tele is before the lads were transferred to Ibrox in 1965 ??

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I'm fully awake now!

Sorry about the hoops-and the Neilsen thing-I still know that face dammit-no doubt it will come to me, as all things do if I wait long enough! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-16 07:54:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 16 2007, 06:31 AM) [snapback]273114[/snapback]

I'm not quite sure where to start.


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Gidday mortonjag,

Why, mate ?

Are you constipated ?

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I've just dropped a humungous keech, but was indeed a tad costive-the simple pleasures of life-eh! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-16 07:55:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 16 2007, 07:54 AM) [snapback]273134[/snapback]
Gudgeir Leifsson or was he from Iceland ?

Who was the Icelander who played for the Midden in the early 60s ?

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The man in yer pikshur-Fleming Neilsen?
mortonjag 2007-05-16 07:58:44
QUOTE(mortonjag @ May 16 2007, 07:55 AM) [snapback]273135[/snapback]
The man in yer pikshur-Fleming Neilsen?

The bin man was 'Tottie' Beck.
mortonjag 2007-05-16 08:53:56
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 16 2007, 08:37 AM) [snapback]273145[/snapback]
Most Protestant denominations do not have Priests; they have Ministers, Pastors and Reverends. It's not the same.
Anti-Vatican propaganda websites - you don't see these everyday! ohmy.gif

The Vatican gained most of the Wealth it has now from the artefacts and precious artwork it possesses. You deny that?

Also, Newton - I'm quite interested to know why you're insistent upon having a go at me despite my previous comments? I'm in favour of the Vatican giving up the bulk of it's wealth.

You lot just move on from one thing to the next - as soon as the election is finished the Tinpot SNP clique turn into the Anti-Catholic Brigade; which topic can we expect you lot to move onto next time? Why not get all uppity about Animal Testing - you'll pull more birds with that one.

Wouldn't it be better to name and shame those posters?

At least then we'd get the thing into the open. For what it's worth I find much about the Catholic Church commendable, but think it's long past time it 'got its act together'.

I'm certainly not anti Catholic, nor a 'Pape basher', and I see the hugely ridiculous monstrosity that is the Orange Order as even more decadent and bigoted than mainstream Catholicism- in this country at least.

Having said all that, I think it's equally daft when posts which plainly are 'poking fun' are removed because some gentle souls have erroneously wandered onto a 'general nonsense' fans forum, and gained a peek at the real world.
mortonjag 2007-05-16 09:00:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 16 2007, 08:00 AM) [snapback]273139[/snapback]
Who had played in Italy ?

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I'm really not sure NewTon-I 'll try to get the original tele picture as yours is much reduced. I definitely recognise the face.

Believe it or not I'm NOT the oldest poster-maybe somebody else can do better!
mortonjag 2007-05-16 09:12:52
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ May 16 2007, 08:32 AM) [snapback]273144[/snapback]
I think, left to right its

Jorn Sorensen
Carl Bertelsen
Fleming Neilsen (as I recall Lief Neilsen was a goalkeeper)
Kaj Johansen
Erik Sorensen

Fleming Nielsen was a midfielder signed from Italian serie A club Atalanta. I wonder how many players we would be able to sign from them now?

Thanks stats man-I was sure the name Neilsen sprung out when I saw the face-and of course you're right about Bertelsen too, Arentoft had much rounder facial features!
mortonjag 2007-05-16 09:14:24
QUOTE(mortonjag @ May 16 2007, 09:00 AM) [snapback]273150[/snapback]
I'm really not sure NewTon-I 'll try to get the original tele picture as yours is much reduced. I definitely recognise the face.

Believe it or not I'm NOT the oldest poster-maybe somebody else can do better!

Think it's sorted on t'other thread.
mortonjag 2007-05-16 09:21:25
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 16 2007, 09:06 AM) [snapback]273152[/snapback]
Anti-Catholic is maybe the wrong word for it, because it implies hatred of Catholics as a group, but there's definately a strong Anti-Papal vibe from a certain few users.

Point in case: the last three or four threads about Religion - any Religion - have descended into a Vatican-bashing orgy.

You can't even bring up f***ing Scientology without these saddo Anorak c***s playing the broken record and dragging it all back to the Catholic Church.

That's your perception-in some cases it may be true, but on this daft forum sticking your neck out about anything (as I frequently do) is inviting the waiting 'choppers' most of whom IMHO are at the 'wind up'.

There are three ways of coping.

Defeat them by sticking to your guns and using fact logically.

Join in the banter (usually the best, in my experience).

Don't take the bait.
mortonjag 2007-05-16 09:28:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 16 2007, 02:14 AM) [snapback]273106[/snapback]
If the Midden got 20,000,000 pounds for Love Street, what is Cappielow worth today ?

It depends on so many factors-the actual area available is crucial to the final price, but supply and demand, ease of access, and ultimately planning consent make it something of a lottery I'd guess.
mortonjag 2007-05-16 09:30:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 16 2007, 09:25 AM) [snapback]273161[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

I KNOW that you are not the old poster ... not by a long stretch.

Even if DDFR dissnae post.

Or does he ?

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If he does, he disguises it well from the Raesque programme notes we all love! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-16 09:32:21
QUOTE(WillowMan @ May 16 2007, 09:23 AM) [snapback]273160[/snapback]
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Which of you is ACTUALLY older or have you not checked? smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-16 09:37:13
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ May 16 2007, 08:50 AM) [snapback]273148[/snapback]

Mourhino, when later asked to comment said 'I didn't object to the police visit until they tried to cut the pink ribbon off my little 'Dickie'.
mortonjag 2007-05-16 09:42:33
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 16 2007, 09:39 AM) [snapback]273173[/snapback]
Not quite, but I try my best tongue.gif

complete

idiot!
mortonjag 2007-05-16 09:43:21
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 16 2007, 09:41 AM) [snapback]273174[/snapback]
finished

over
mortonjag 2007-05-16 09:52:20 Yer not o'er the hill yet young 'Willow'-
no way are you ailing and ill. Oh
and lest you forget
if your age makes you fret
that bottle's still under your pillow.
mortonjag 2007-05-16 09:56:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 16 2007, 09:45 AM) [snapback]273178[/snapback]
roll over honey and lettuce on top

lettuce turnip and pea
mortonjag 2007-05-16 09:58:30
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 16 2007, 09:55 AM) [snapback]273182[/snapback]
The Leith waterfront area's pretty good. I've just opened an office there, at Timberbush which is a few hundred yards from the Scottish Executive building and even closer to the red light district, and there are some very nice flats just next to the office.

A prostitute by any other name is...
mortonjag 2007-05-16 09:59:51
QUOTE(WillowMan @ May 16 2007, 09:42 AM) [snapback]273176[/snapback]
I can't actually find her tome of birth but I was born at 5.45pm.

What time was

'1992 she was elected by People's Magazine as one of the 50 most beautiful people'

Gaby born ??

Now that would be a nice Birthday present biggrin.gif

We'll just assume you're younger then! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-16 10:01:02
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 16 2007, 09:59 AM) [snapback]273187[/snapback]
lettuce in ya bassa

lettuce in ya bowl
mortonjag 2007-05-16 10:04:58
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 16 2007, 09:58 AM) [snapback]273185[/snapback]
I said no such thing and you know it - I said the way the Church of Scientology acts makes me want rid of it, but I never claimed it's members needed to be wiped out.

And you know fine well it wasn't just illustrating "the hypocrisy" of my own views, it's a tired anti-Catholic vendetta that's spanned since last week.

Wake up and smell the coffee Mick-do you think people that are that daft would choose a Morton web site?

As I suggested previously, if it's really upsetting you, you have options.
mortonjag 2007-05-16 10:06:04
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ May 16 2007, 10:05 AM) [snapback]273194[/snapback]
BLT

TBL ! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-16 10:07:49
QUOTE(WillowMan @ May 16 2007, 10:05 AM) [snapback]273193[/snapback]
Excellent.

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mortonjag 2007-05-16 10:14:14
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 16 2007, 10:04 AM) [snapback]273191[/snapback]
I recall John Madsen as having a shaved head, so could be Fleming Neilsen in the middle. Others are as per Tonsilitis post. Arentoft was small with fair hair.

Lief Nielsen was later, round about 1968-71 I think.

Correct-Madsen was an early version of that Danish thing that 'plays' for Cellic-shaven headed, and hard as nails, but never a dirty player, and an incredibly powerful header of a ball.
mortonjag 2007-05-16 10:21:41
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 16 2007, 10:14 AM) [snapback]273203[/snapback]
LBT

BTL
mortonjag 2007-05-16 10:26:01
QUOTE(StuMac @ May 16 2007, 10:23 AM) [snapback]273206[/snapback]
GIRUY

LTB
mortonjag 2007-05-16 10:37:19
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 16 2007, 10:33 AM) [snapback]273209[/snapback]
Inverclyde Now

I seen the long slow death of a poor wee boat. sad.gif

Kind of ironic-a converted 'lifeboat'!
mortonjag 2007-05-16 10:42:42
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 16 2007, 10:36 AM) [snapback]273213[/snapback]
I don't necessarily agree. I think she'll improve with experience (most women do....). I did notice that she described one player as "the China captain" three times, which sounded a bit wrong but possibly due to editing that the same phrase appeared so frequently in a shortish highlight package. Her voice is however a bit shrill and slightly irritating as a result. I don't see any reason why a female can't commentate on football but I'm not sure that that particular female is the best proponent. There are male commentators who are just as irritating and far less competent.

laugh.gif The ideal woman would have looks, brains, and be interested in football, as well as being great in bed. And if any feminists don't like that idea, tough!!

The converse may be:

The ideal man would have money, less intelligence than me, and be good at housework and cooking-preferably a 'stud' but if he's no good in bed there are ways round everything.
mortonjag 2007-05-16 10:45:28
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ May 16 2007, 10:43 AM) [snapback]273218[/snapback]
SOS

TLB
mortonjag 2007-05-16 10:48:07
QUOTE(Eric M. @ May 16 2007, 10:35 AM) [snapback]273211[/snapback]
I think the guy may have been Leif Holten and he only played one or two games.

That figures Eric-I DEFINITELY know the face, but if he'd been a regular I'm sure I'd have been sure one way or another, and I do recall Holten was a very tall guy.
mortonjag 2007-05-16 13:48:02
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ May 16 2007, 01:00 PM) [snapback]273311[/snapback]
I think you may be doing him too much of a service. I am of the view he has still to get his Nat King. Too much teenage angst.

Interestingly enough it has been reported that STD's is now more common amongst the forty year plus brigade. With the amount of divorces and new "blood" back in the market (MJ watch out). Whilst the kids are now being better educated and warned against the dangers.

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I think that for an 18 year old boy Mick has actually stood his ground very well.

It's becoming clear though that he hasn't really much experience of life. There's nothing wrong with that in itself, but his perception of the rectitude and value of the teachings of the Catholic Church in dictating the behaviour (including sexual behaviour) of the majority of Catholics is unbelievably distorted.

Laws are made to be broken, and stupid or uneforceable laws invariably are.

I wonder if Mick read my comments on another thread. I was invited to become junior partner in a large predominantly Catholic practice in the early seventies, simply because I was able and willing to provide family planning services. I could hardly keep up with the demand for the 'pill' and within no time IUCD's were eagerly demanded too.

That was almost two generations ago!

I have more times than I care to remember, had to cope with the detrimental effect on patients' health of over zealous interest in their private affairs from their local priest. I won't give examples-people will just get upset, but that is a FACT.

I've explicitly stated I'm not a Pape Basher, one of my three kids has converted to Catholicism, one is married to an ex Catholic who turned to Judaism, and one has an (dare I say) irreligious wife! My kids were allowed to think for themselves, and I regard them as a credit to my ex wife and to me.

I WILL state, however, that IMHO the attitude of the Roman Catholic Church to contraception is 'cloud cuckoo land' and their doctrine is freely flouted by the majority.

Monogamy is a more contentious issue for me. Florid promiscuity is normally unhealthy for a body and mind, and frequently accompanies a need to prove something, but the concept of one sexual partner for life is crazy beyond belief. Marriage at best is a total lottery, as confirmed by divorce figures-what chance has anyone if it's to be like picking the first sweetie out a lucky bag and having to 'like it or lump it'?

Abortion as a lazy substitute for contraception I regard as wrong, but again the tunnel vision and pig headed stubborness of the'Church' to termination of pregnancy, precludes any form of concession to individual circumstances, and thus is largely perceived as interference in matters best left to others.

In those matters, if not in others, the Church is categorically preaching a mediaeval message to modern folk, and it just doesn't wash with them. As I said earlier, they 'need to get their act together', or they will just look dafter and dafter as time passes them by.
mortonjag 2007-05-16 14:02:59
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 16 2007, 01:54 PM) [snapback]273361[/snapback]
In your opinion !!!! That's the whole point surely Benin - for those of us who choose to follow our faith then Darwin's "facts" can be interpreted in many ways. For me, I choose to see them, along with a lot of other stuff, as a test of my faith. One again, this doesn't make me right, or wrong, just me.

TonInDublin

I couldn't totally get my mind round Darwin's THEORY 'til the monkey graduated. Evolution-oh that-of course it's been happening-but where did the process start-did it indeed HAVE to start at all?

Reminds me of that old ditty-'There's a hole in the bucket Dear Liza'! huh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-16 14:16:18 As I have a particular interest in monkeys, and in masturbation, may I propose a new name for Boozehound's religion?



'MONKING'
mortonjag 2007-05-16 14:27:02
QUOTE(Benin Dahomey @ May 16 2007, 02:05 PM) [snapback]273371[/snapback]
no, it makes you wrong.

you've set up your 'faith' so that nothing can touch it.

but either god exists or he doesn't, its an objective, empirical, matter. it must be either true or false. it cannot be the case that god exists in some people's lives but not in others. he either does or he doesn't.

with that in mind, how exactly could someone get through to you. we could prove beyond all reasonable doubt that god does not exist, but you would choose to see it as a test of faith. ok, i'm not going to try to convince you, but this is not a relative matter. you can hold your belief but you've got to at least accept the possibility that you could be wrong, its simply not the kind of issue where there is no right or wrong answer.

the right answer, by the way, is that darwin settled this debate a long time ago.

FFS NOT an evangelical Darwinist now.

How in the name of God Darwin can someone 'set up his faith so that nothing can touch it'?

Faith is faith-pure and (sometimes very) simple.

Why does 'GOD' have to exist or not exist when we are talking in purely metaphysical terms?

I have absolutely no problem with 'God' being a reality for some and a myth for others, and indeed how can one man's 'God' EVER be the same as another's unless they share a brain?
mortonjag 2007-05-16 14:29:07
QUOTE(Morton_T.I.D @ May 16 2007, 02:26 PM) [snapback]273384[/snapback]
gretna in the spl.

money
mortonjag 2007-05-16 14:38:21
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 16 2007, 02:33 PM) [snapback]273391[/snapback]
I think 'w@nkey' would be better.

Followers would be called 'w@nkies' and the theology would be called 'w@nkiology'.

Those who disagreed with the docrine would in turn be called 'anti-w@nkies'.

Then I proclaim myself the first gnostic theist w*nkey-now bear with me- I've just decided this should become a mandatory wankey holiday of obligation-'Where's that f*ckin' 'Playboy' Munx'?
mortonjag 2007-05-16 14:49:17
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ May 16 2007, 02:41 PM) [snapback]273395[/snapback]
Pappekak! If you think that Darwin filled in the blanks then you are as mad and delusional as you claim TiD to be. While his theory of evolution seems entirely plausible it still remains a theory, much like Einstien's theory of relativity. You claim that you can deny God's existance based on the evidence you have currently available, but people could say the earth was flat based on the evidence they had a thousand years ago. Who is to say that the information and knowledge we have available to us at this moment in time is no more than the tip of the iceberg.

The joy of knowledge is that the more I know the more I realize I don't understand!

cool.gif ScotinBelgie

Edit - Just to add that poppyc*** should be allowed and as it isn't I'll change it to it's original Dutch derivative.

pappecak-not a flower shaped Willie, but a mouthful of s***e if I recall Scotty!
mortonjag 2007-05-16 15:04:04
QUOTE(Benin Dahomey @ May 16 2007, 02:46 PM) [snapback]273398[/snapback]
if by evangelical darwinist you mean someone who actually examines the facts before forming an opinion then alright that's me.

'how can someone set up his faith so that nothing can touch it?'...eh, read his post, and my reply, again, thats how.

you don't seem to have a very good grip on the metaphysics of the issue if the rest of your post is genuine.
if you think that god 'exists' for some people and not others then you are clearly not using the phrase 'god exists' in the same sense that christians use it. for christians, even if i don't accept the existence of god, he still exists. you are using 'reality for some' in an almost metaphorical sense, which is different to saying he actually (really does) exist. christians don't claim that god is real for them and not for others. for christians god exists, end of.

if you want to claim that god exists for some and for others then you are no longer really talking about god, you are talking about beliefs or concepts. i (obviously) do not deny that some people have beliefs or concepts of god. what is at stake is whether these beliefs or concepts of god map onto anything in the real world, i.e. whether there is a matter of fact 'god'. clearly, whether there is or not is an objective matter; there is or there is not a god in the real world (universe, whatever) that exists.

as i've said already, darwin settled this issue.

That's what we're all talking about-NOTHING is proven either way, irrespective of your choice of an all creating 'Christian' 'father', or my choice of an individual higher power to describe 'God'.

I think it's a bit silly of you to criticise my understanding of metaphysics, when it's simply about everything which doesn't conform to scientific fact-that at least is my understanding for the purpose of this debate.

You can be 99% impeccably logical, and convince the majority, yet if your opening premise is flawed you might as well join the Wankeys.

Darwin may well have proved that evolution is a fact, thereby discounting much of the fundamentalist story of creation, but you plainly missed my point.

I reckon God must be one of the most devious old b*****ds around.

Sticking all that evolution stuff in to confuse lesser minds wasn't behaving like a true Proddy-Catholic nice old man with a long beard and a passing resemblance to Jesus and John Lennon with his specs off.
mortonjag 2007-05-16 15:14:27
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 16 2007, 03:10 PM) [snapback]273414[/snapback]
And so it is written.

...and boozehound said to his high priest 'come ye forth', but there were four others more devoted than he.
mortonjag 2007-05-16 15:17:43
QUOTE(StuMac @ May 16 2007, 03:16 PM) [snapback]273417[/snapback]
free

speech for wankeys
mortonjag 2007-05-16 15:43:17
QUOTE(lush @ May 16 2007, 03:40 PM) [snapback]273440[/snapback]
I think i will need time to think about it, any chance of changing that rule? blink.gif

Rigidity is a necessity for all things wankey-including rules.
mortonjag 2007-05-16 15:59:19
QUOTE(Benin Dahomey @ May 16 2007, 03:19 PM) [snapback]273420[/snapback]
so what exactly is your point, that someone having a belief in god is enough for him to exist. does that mean i can just believe anything into 'existence'. mermaids, unicorns, sherlock holmes?

anyway, my premise wasn't flawed. unless of course you're going to demand a definition of 'knowledge' which requires 100% certainty. but on that account no-one could actually 'know' anything because your definition of 'to know' would be too strict. for example, how do you know that you're not just a brain floating in a jar somewhere. you can't be 100% certain that you're not, but it is still reasonable to say that you know you are not. the best explanation for all your experiences is that you actually are doing all the things you think that you are doing. you don't have this knowledge as 100% certainty, but you make an inference to the best explanation. its the same with god; you can't have 100% certainty that god does not exist, because it is impossible to have 100% ceratinty on anything. however, the fact that we can never be 100% ceratin does not prevent us from having knowledge. i have the knowledge that god does not exist because, thanks to darwin, i am able to properly (and without bias) examine the facts and make an inference to the best explanation.

FFS what do you think I expect from a man arguing from a scientific viewpoint.

In the world as we know and accept it, there are IMMUTABLE FACTS-things which can proven by EVIDENCE time after time after time..

If you want to debate that let's do it elsewhere as for practical purposes it's pretty well used by scientists universally and was by Darwin himself.

Facts ARE based on ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY-by definition.

Your premise-namely that Darwin's THEORY disproves anything, is fatally flawed-by definition.

I think what you're attempting to say is that you have faith in Darwin's theory and are using that faith to discount the faith of others.

As to my point-well I handed it to you on a plate-I accept that life has gone through an evolutionary process-and for me, that makes the 'garden of Eden' an outdated attempt at understanding, but my suggestion that 'God' had just stuck evolution in the middle to be a naughty boy and confuse lesser minds seems to have gone over yer heid like a giraffe's baws.
mortonjag 2007-05-16 16:09:28
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 16 2007, 03:58 PM) [snapback]273461[/snapback]
Can ambidextrous people join?

Their extra talents will be highly regarded but they must nominate which foot they will kick withhand they will worship with.
mortonjag 2007-05-16 16:15:59 God has forever been amused at man's inability to escape the need for a beginning to everything-I suspect that the world of the 21st century existed on an identical planet until yesterday, when at the flick of a finger, he transmuted it to earth incorporating a human mental timescale of billions of years.

Be accepting of the possibility of God-we've just been promoted-let's not spoil things.
mortonjag 2007-05-16 16:27:17
QUOTE(Benin Dahomey @ May 16 2007, 04:12 PM) [snapback]273470[/snapback]
you are quite simply wrong about this. 100% certainty is impossible. it is a very famous problem. it is called the problem of induction. (hume in particular is famous for his writing on the subject, who by the way was a 'man arguing from a scientific viewpoint').
are you saying that evolution happened, but only so god could trick us into thinking he doesn't exist? that makes less sense than the bible. you sound like someone who has realised the implications of darwin, but rather than admit it you're just going to clutch at straws instead.

I told you that if you want to argue about it this is not the place and time-I am absolutely certain that two and two make four, and don't start to get 'all clever' about that. I'll match you at any level of intellectual debate you choose-I simply resent you telling somebody he 'IS WRONG' on the basis of an unproven theory, and then trying to chuck Hume at me in your defence.

I totally understand EVERYTHING you're trying to say, and your inability to grasp what I am driving at.

What did all this stuff evolve from-where did it evolve from-was there a 'big bang' or a 'primitive soup', and if so where did they come from-'clutch at straws'-no way, but it's a shame that I have to spell things out for folk who 'talk a good game' but whose heids are in fact up their theoretical arses'.
mortonjag 2007-05-16 16:34:17
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 16 2007, 04:24 PM) [snapback]273474[/snapback]
Could be a hard choice MJ.

laugh.gif

Decide or be damned-toss up for it if you must.
mortonjag 2007-05-16 19:51:12
QUOTE(NonTon @ May 16 2007, 04:27 PM) [snapback]273476[/snapback]
I've never met a priest who I would ever describe as a b*****d or evil person, but surely there are some out there; you have that Fr Gerry Nugent from the Angelika Kluk case or the numerous convicted paedophiles (and I'm not going to say this is just a problem with the Catholic Church).
The reason I mentioned this was because it was a particular allegation of evil that was being made against the Catholic Church on it's own. I don't think it's clever to bash the Church for not backing artificial contraceptives because the idea of promisicuity being wrong goes all the way back to the teachings of Jesus and the apostles. So the pope would obviously never back down on this because it's pretty important in Christianity. It's true that the Church is the biggest and most powerful vehicle for spreading Christian teachings, but you also have Protestants, Evangelicals and no doubt Muslims and Jews that have the same beliefs. So I can get behind the folk who talk about "pape-bashing" and so on in that regard.

It's not so much a case of 'not backing artificial contraceptives', as one of dictating to the flock that contraception is sin-contraception with or without promiscuity that is.

It's also pretty well accepted within the medical profession, that promiscuity is much more a factor of personality, than of the availability or otherwise of contraception.

I understand your historical explanation of his Holiness's unwillingness to condone contraception-that IS PRECISELY what is wrong IMO.

Promiscuity is here to stay, and it's worst ravages can be greatly lessened by contraception. Time to move forward.
mortonjag 2007-05-16 20:23:31
QUOTE(Benin Dahomey @ May 16 2007, 04:47 PM) [snapback]273488[/snapback]
you are deliberatley confusing the definitions of concepts and the contexts that they are used in as a way to dishonestly 'score points' in this debate.

i didn't deny that you could 'know' that 2 + 2 = 4. what i denied was that you could have 100% certainty. you then deliberatly started using the term 'certain' in the way in which we had been using the term 'to know'. (anyway, stuff like maths, etc is not a good analogy for a debate on god (unless you are going to bring up some sort of ontological arguement) because that is a priori knowledge, as opposed to experience based knowledge, although the point about 100% certainty still stands).

and i reserve the right to tell people they are wrong on a public message board if the views they are espousing are clearly contradicted by the science. ffs, its like the enlightenment never happened sometimes. if people are so sensitive about it, which i doubt he is anyway, then they shouldn't be posting their thoughts in places where they will obviously be challenged.
laugh.gif what??? by accepting only the things that i have good reason to accept somehow equates to my head being up my arse???


If you BELIEVE you reserve the right to tell people they are 'wrong' then I'm telling you YOU ARE WRONG.

While I'm at it, you're welcome to some spelling and grammar lessons free of charge.

I've spent my whole professional life in a scientific environment where honesty and objectivity are essential, and find it laughable in the extreme that someone of your obviously limited intellectual ability accuses me of deliberately indulging in Procrustean tactics.

You DO NOT read, digest, analyse, and respond-you simply 'knee jerk' to anything which appears to contradict your adoption of Darwinism as you pet debating topic. As such you appear to be are one of those sad creatures who fails to recognise defeat when it's staring him in the face

Since you are clearly not overly bright, and have difficulty in making your point despite all the verbosity, I suggest that all you are claiming is that Darwin's THEORY, and the subsequent general acceptance of an evolutionary process on earth proves that those who believe in a creative force (God, if you will) are WRONG.

What I am saying is that, like you, I accept that evolutionary process, and the fact that it discredits fundamental Christian teaching regarding creation. In terms of explanation, however, it goes no further, and anyone with a GENUINELY investigative mind will inevitably look for the bigger picture.

Is it impossible that 'God' decided to do things through a process of evolution?

Isn't it possible to have NO beginning?

Please don't come back on this unless you've genuinely anything new to add.
mortonjag 2007-05-16 21:04:17
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 16 2007, 06:41 PM) [snapback]273557[/snapback]
Equivalent to our own Military Monkeys laugh.gif

Recruits simian sojers
mortonjag 2007-05-16 21:16:20
QUOTE(ian clinging @ May 16 2007, 06:25 PM) [snapback]273551[/snapback]
moderator, i don't know what a p.m is, so therefore I can't p.m you as you put it. As for other users i'm not going to enter a debate with you or argue with you or indeed vilify you, because i respect your viewpoints and beliefs. I simply ask that you respect mine. I respect the fact that you removed "offensive posts" but surely action should be taken against those posting it, i.e suspending their membership of the messageboard. I'm somewhat embarrassed that you stopped my previous thread regarding sectarianism on this board yet have failed to stop or close any other thread.

I agree with you that there has been an apparently excessive criticism of Catholicism recently.

Have you ever paused to ask yourself why it is that the Proddies, Jews, Muslims and others seem to go relatively unscathed?

Do you HONESTLY believe that there is a large and bigoted anti Catholic faction operating on this board?

You are the personification of the problem. Just as the Catholic church stubbornly continues to foist its antiquated creed on the 'faithful', at the expense of freedom of thought and choice, YOU are foisting on our moderator an unfair demand to muffle any post which offends your self righteousness.

In my humble opinion you should take a long hard look at yourself before posting again. Unless you are willing to accept two sides to every story, the board would be better off without your input.
mortonjag 2007-05-16 21:25:00 Let's not get too carried away with our new found faith fellow wankeys, or before long every second post will be seen to have a bigoted anti-wankey spin-FFS masturbation might even be labelled a sin!
mortonjag 2007-05-16 21:27:46
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ May 16 2007, 09:21 PM) [snapback]273655[/snapback]
indeed. the guy just reeks of his own self-satisfaction,


and speaks alternately from each orifice of his alimentary tract.
mortonjag 2007-05-16 21:29:57
QUOTE(carlito @ May 16 2007, 09:20 PM) [snapback]273654[/snapback]
Cradle Of Filth

herbie hanc***
mortonjag 2007-05-16 21:44:50
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 16 2007, 08:54 PM) [snapback]273639[/snapback]
Elvis

pelvis
mortonjag 2007-05-16 21:49:46
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 16 2007, 09:48 PM) [snapback]273665[/snapback]
hip

hop
mortonjag 2007-05-16 21:58:12
QUOTE(nach0king @ May 16 2007, 07:30 PM) [snapback]273588[/snapback]
Alex isn't a left back either, though, is he?

And while I initially questioned McGregor's instant return, IMO he's been great this season, and McInally deserves credit for bringing him back (as does the player himself, of course.)

Walker was signed as an attacking midfielder at a time when other clubs were expressing interest, and was well 'bummed up' in the programme notes by JM and Dougie.

Because of our top heavy midfield, he's never really been given a chance to establish himself in his true position.

He 'bit the bullet' and put in several more than creditable shifts at left back, yet the very moment David McG became available he was 'binned', despite the former being a right footed central defender.

Davie came onto a great game towards the end of the season, but he's NOT a natural left back and never will be.
mortonjag 2007-05-16 22:01:54
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 16 2007, 09:54 PM) [snapback]273669[/snapback]
Shopper

trolley
mortonjag 2007-05-16 22:04:22
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 16 2007, 09:55 PM) [snapback]273670[/snapback]
Kim Wilde

ear candy
mortonjag 2007-05-16 22:22:33
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 16 2007, 10:05 PM) [snapback]273676[/snapback]
dash

dot
mortonjag 2007-05-16 22:33:37 I'm pleased to see the apparent end of years of pathetic electoral cowtowing to quasi socialism in our country.

At least Bawheid doesn't have to justify his actions to anybody except the Scottish people-all we can do is wait and see what transpires.
mortonjag 2007-05-16 22:34:37
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ May 16 2007, 10:33 PM) [snapback]273688[/snapback]
pants

dog
mortonjag 2007-05-16 22:36:52
QUOTE(shedhead @ May 16 2007, 10:28 PM) [snapback]273684[/snapback]
Reading this board it isn't hard to see that most posters believe that the Catholic Church is a money grabbing cult led by a Nazi , with a policy of child abuse, is responsible for the HIV virus, and has less credibility than the Scientologists.

I couldn't agree more but you missed this out at the end.......!!!!!!! wink.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-16 22:41:37 The prices are silly and probably will be reflected in the gates, but we don't have to go to Peterhead, Brechin, Forfar, or Stranraer this year, and I've worked out that I'll be well IN pocket by the end of the season.
mortonjag 2007-05-16 22:44:11
QUOTE(StuMac @ May 16 2007, 09:23 PM) [snapback]273658[/snapback]
Has a deep sexual fantasy about pulling off Darth Vader.

has an abdominal screen name
mortonjag 2007-05-16 22:45:23
QUOTE(Deego @ May 16 2007, 10:44 PM) [snapback]273697[/snapback]
Arsehole.

Anus
mortonjag 2007-05-16 22:46:13
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 16 2007, 10:42 PM) [snapback]273695[/snapback]
lead

weight
mortonjag 2007-05-16 22:51:44
QUOTE(Deego @ May 16 2007, 10:50 PM) [snapback]273703[/snapback]
Arsepiece.

cloth ears
mortonjag 2007-05-16 22:52:35
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 16 2007, 10:49 PM) [snapback]273701[/snapback]
Lifter

Dropper
mortonjag 2007-05-16 22:53:30
QUOTE(Deego @ May 16 2007, 10:52 PM) [snapback]273709[/snapback]
f*d.

fond of naughty words
mortonjag 2007-05-16 22:54:54
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ May 16 2007, 10:51 PM) [snapback]273706[/snapback]
He was interviewed on Channel 4 news and quizzed on meeting the queen.

He stated he is looking forward to "Meeting Her Majesty Queen elizabeth " and "representing her SUBJECTS in Scotland"

the revolution is over.................
JB.

Finally knocked it off with that bloody coalition!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-17 00:41:24
QUOTE(Benin Dahomey @ May 16 2007, 10:57 PM) [snapback]273717[/snapback]
clearly you are an idiot who has no actual argument for what you are saying. again, you offer only negativity with nothing to back it up. i lack intelligence? apart from the fact that you are resorting to insults (where's your honesty and objectivity there?), the fact that i'm doing doctoral research on this very subject suggests you are clearly wrong about my intellectual ability on the subject. you are the one who seems to be confusing opinion with a sensible attempt at discussion.

you are giving possibilities (i.e. no beginning), but no arguments to support those possibilities. i accept that i might not be making my point as clearly as i could, but it is a very complicated issue, more so than you seem to appreciate, and better people than myself have tackled these issues before me and still not convinced everyone. my inability to convince you does not equate to me being not very bright as you want to put it. unless of course you also think people like richard dawkins are not very bright and only give only 'knee-jerk' answers when 'defeat is staring them in the face'. the fact that you think the position offered by dawkins, and defended here by me, is staring defeat in the face shows that you clearly do not have a clue what you are talking about. i think you will find it is organised religion and belief in god like creatures that is on the decline (at least in our country).

i have offered you a balanced opinion of why i think that i can say 'i know god does not exist', one which hinges on the use of terms such as 'to know' and 'certainty'. it is a position which has a rich history in all branches of philosophy, as well as biology and physics. i have pointed out others who have articulated and defended the different parts of the argument that i have offered here.

your response has been no better than "welll i think something else so there".

and when people are wrong they are wrong.

The fact that you are doing 'doctoral research' on the subject suggests nothing more to me than what I had concluded after your very first post, and for a 'Doctor' or 'wannabee Doctor', your grammar, syntax, and spelling leave much to be desired. Would you care to disclose the identity of the 'Centre of Excellence' to which you have kindly loaned your massive brain? ohmy.gif

For what it's worth I have two Honours degrees-one in Arts, and one in Medicine (from a real University), and I don't think that entitles me to tell other posters that their sincerely held opinions are WRONG

I also refrain from 'name dropping' in a feeble attempt to support my opinions. I don't just gobble up what 'clever people' once said in a book, and spew it back out undigested. I actually THINK!

Try it some time-it can amazingly widen your horizons. wink.gif

The offer of tuition still stands BTW.
mortonjag 2007-05-17 07:26:35
QUOTE(Benin Dahomey @ May 17 2007, 01:40 AM) [snapback]273753[/snapback]
you're either just on the wind up or you really are a complete dickhead.

two undergraduate degrees, good for you, but neither in a subject relevant to this discussion.again you resort to cheap shots (in the dark) which is no more than i've come to expect. for what its worth, i'm doing my doctoral studies at [b]stirling (the only place which scored higher on my subject area was oxford, so clearly a real university). [/b]More importantly, my thesis is directly related to this subject. i also graduated with a first class honours at undergraduate level (first in my year).

and you are clearly as unfamiliar with the subject as i suspected if you think that what i have presented here is merely an 'undigested spew back' of what others think. if you knew anything about the subject, which you clearly don't, you would realise that this is my interpretation of many different theories. also, if you knew about doctoral study you would know it is not a case of learning what other people think, it is about working with your own ideas. obviously for your own ideas to be taken seriously, though, they need to be considered in light of what recognised experts in the field have written.[b] i seriously doubt you could have done any more than scrape through your undergraduate degrees if you don't believe in refering to others work[/b]. it is kind of essential to do so at any level, but in particular at undergraduate level where you are being assessed on your knowledge and interpretation of, and critical response to, the work of others.

and moaning about my [b]grammer and stuff is just pathetic when i am clearly just writing in shorthand. i'm [/b]hardly presenting anything here for publication. but your focus on stuff like that just highlights the fact that you have no actual argument against my position, which makes me wonder why you keep going on about it. i get it that you don't like my conclusion, and you sincerely wish you could think of something relevant to say in reply, but yet another post from you and you still have not done so.

p.s. part of doing doctoral studies is presenting your work. this is then followed by responses to your theory. as such i am used to being 'intellectually roughed up', and by people who know what they are talking about at that. you have not even came close to giving a sensible criticism of my position, or a sensible response to the criticism i gave to your apparent views on knowledge and certainty. clearly intellectual debates are beyond you as you only ever reply with insults. if you don't agree with me then fine, but you are trying toi argue with me when you have no actual argument to offer.

Listen son, I don't know whether to tear you to utter shreds or just give you a big cuddle.

I was once a big-headed young student too, and honestly can't credit some of the things I believed, said, and did.

There is absolutely no point in even attempting any further meaningful debate with you, as you are so cocooned in theory you've clearly lost the place.

All I will say, by means of genuine comment, is that if you came first in a first class Honours year, I doubt if the number of students was more than a teaspoonsful. Either that or you were shagging your tutor. I thought Stirling had improved! Oh me miserum.

Just for the record I WAS second in my final year of 200 MEDICAL students at Glasgow University, and in any case who'd dare to flout a doctorate from Stirling when it can produce such specimens as John Reid!

In recent years I've had fun mixing with youngsters like yourself on adult education courses. I am a fully qualified counsellor, have a diploma in psychology, and what I'd describe as 'scraps of paper' for my attendance at other courses, including logic, and philosophy.

One of my sons has a 'first' in Law from Strathclyde, and my daughter is about to complete her doctorate in psychology there. My other son-the black sheep-chose business, and can afford to buy out Dougie Rae, should he be that way inclined, which suggests that academic achievement is worth relatively nothing! Young man, until you finally get a tap on the head from the Chancellor of the University of Life you're still very much a 'fresher'.

In conclusion, I have asked you NOT to tell others they are wrong on the basis of your opinions. I suspect you are so full of yourself that I'll have to plough through another page of your offensive 'shorthand', but you needn't bother, as I shall decline to reply. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-17 07:38:14
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 17 2007, 12:51 AM) [snapback]273740[/snapback]
This geezer Bahomey is having a good go at out-pomping you in the erudition stakes, Mentaljag. I must say he fails miserably when it comes down to humour, unlike yourself of course. smile.gif You're up rather late tonight my man. Is god bothering you ? Have you said your prayers ?

Couldn't sleep DE-my hamster's got chickenpox and the screech of that cage birling round with the scratching's doin' ma nut in. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-17 07:59:55
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 17 2007, 07:53 AM) [snapback]273777[/snapback]
Have you considered euthanasia ? For the hamster I mean. biggrin.gif

Last week the other one fell asleep at the wheel-unfortunately my strict religious principles prohibit killing, so I'll just have to pray for a timely demise. One more day of this and I'll be straight back into Leverndale.
mortonjag 2007-05-17 08:03:57
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 17 2007, 07:43 AM) [snapback]273776[/snapback]
This geezer Bahomey is having a good go at out-pomping you in the erudition stakes, Mentaljag. I must say he fails miserably when it comes down to humour, unlike yourself of course.
Gidday mortonjag,

It looks like this bloke has you hook, line and sinker, mate.

If he really is a post graduate student at Stirling, it only serves to illustrate that university has totally changed (declined) ohmy.gif since our day.

Unless of course, mortonjag, English is no longer a compulsory subject for matriculation ???

huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif

Believe it or not cobber, they are attempting to make it non mandatory for entry to Medicine right now.

Maybe we are just sad old c*nts, but really NewTon-THAT tells you IT was FIRST in a first class honours course, and what's sadder, believes it's achieved something! sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-17 08:09:12
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 17 2007, 07:53 AM) [snapback]273777[/snapback]
Have you considered euthanasia ? For the hamster I mean. biggrin.gif

That's a hard one, as the actress said to the bishop barman!

My strict religious belief prohibits killing-I can only pray for an early and merciful release from its little journey through wood shaving and sh*t.

Mind you the last one fell asleep at the wheel with no warning at all.

Hercules, my wee chap, I can still weep as I recall those happy days.

Hercules T.H.E Hamster. R.I.P. sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-17 08:11:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 17 2007, 08:04 AM) [snapback]273781[/snapback]
I'll just have to pray for a timely demise.

Gidday mortonjag,

Whit ???

I thought you had decades left in you yet, mate.

sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-17 08:47:39 Philips made the first CD 29 years ago on this day, just as Selwyn LLoyd bade us goodbye.

Seems like last week!
mortonjag 2007-05-17 08:51:33 Stu Mac,

My recent conversion to wankeyism has me perturbed. Since I accidentally glued the velour curtains together, I've been prohibited from wanking without a condom on. I suspect that may be a sin-would it be OK if I made a teeeny wee hole in the end?
mortonjag 2007-05-17 08:54:16
QUOTE(StuMac @ May 17 2007, 08:51 AM) [snapback]273795[/snapback]
Imature little man with a small penis who finds it embarrassing to be naked infront of woman.

Rounded Adonis like personality who exports his semen in bulk.
mortonjag 2007-05-17 08:58:54
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 17 2007, 07:08 AM) [snapback]273772[/snapback]
Who is the bloke with the big hoose in Rome I wonder ?

Governor of Casal Del Marmo I'd imagine.
mortonjag 2007-05-17 09:04:07
QUOTE(StuMac @ May 17 2007, 08:56 AM) [snapback]273797[/snapback]
W@nkeyism encourages all forms of wanking. Feel free to pierce the end with any device close by. W@nkeyism encourgaes the use of spare socks for such use.

Praise be to W@nkey


Then I shall shuffle off to Poundstretcher for 100 pairs of bootees for 'birth to 3 months'.
mortonjag 2007-05-17 09:56:52
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 17 2007, 09:49 AM) [snapback]273806[/snapback]
Primate

Primark
mortonjag 2007-05-17 10:01:03
QUOTE(ianton @ May 17 2007, 09:38 AM) [snapback]273805[/snapback]
aye shyte

EH?

I'm telling you we're all going to SAVE money this season and that's sh*te!
mortonjag 2007-05-17 10:02:09
QUOTE(manchesterton @ May 17 2007, 10:00 AM) [snapback]273809[/snapback]
Shop

clinging
mortonjag 2007-05-17 10:02:48
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 17 2007, 10:02 AM) [snapback]273812[/snapback]
Supermarket

sweep
mortonjag 2007-05-17 10:04:08
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 17 2007, 10:03 AM) [snapback]273814[/snapback]
brush

fox
mortonjag 2007-05-17 10:08:08
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 17 2007, 09:26 AM) [snapback]273802[/snapback]
I think that's intended to be ironic or something like that... along the lines of "it would bring tears to a glass eye". Something that's actually impossible, to illustrate a point that is beyond the limits of what would be reasonable.

There's a song by Mel C which has some nonsense in it about sleeping under cars and not being able to survive without a mobile phone - clearly the lyricist was having a bad day trying to find suitable words to go with the tune.

Bohemian Rhapsody - great song, oxymoronic lyrics.

It's a superb tune Alibi-even when I was a kid I never really paid too much attention to lyrics-it was always the music which appealed or didn't, though when you listen to more 'cultured' stuff some of the lyricists are unbelievably clever.

Always thought Simon and Garfunkel had a good blend of both.
mortonjag 2007-05-17 10:10:24
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 17 2007, 09:21 AM) [snapback]273801[/snapback]
Well, can you take Alec Salmond seriously as leader of the SNP?

I mean, his party is younger than his Missus!

unsure.gif

Is that Mrs, or Mistress, Mick?
mortonjag 2007-05-17 10:11:32
QUOTE(manchesterton @ May 17 2007, 10:10 AM) [snapback]273818[/snapback]
Lady

vixen
mortonjag 2007-05-17 10:19:22
QUOTE(manchesterton @ May 17 2007, 10:12 AM) [snapback]273820[/snapback]
Godess

diana
mortonjag 2007-05-17 10:23:03
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 17 2007, 10:13 AM) [snapback]273821[/snapback]
A good post Carbuncle constructor. A good post. Gonnae naw shoot the messanger. sad.gif

I was only pointing out that the Greens' and SNP's interests were diametrically opposed.

You want to save the world and increase the sum of human happiness. So do I. The greens' approach won't do it.
Nor for that matter will the SNPs.
The greens are neo luddites. GMO scare stories? You won't find a reputable bioscientist who buys into that crap.

Want to know the real challenge? Anthropogenic greenhouse effect.

That's the scientific consensus. You'll find some who say otherwise, generally in the hip pocket of Shell, exxon etc.

Oil, f'cking oil. Leave that s*** in the grun. It's Scotland's oil? Fc'king leave it in the Scottish grun.
Stop burning coal. Give maufacturers of cars et al 5 years to have switched to biofuels. Lots more people will not be able to afford cars because biofuels are going to be expensive. A large investement in Public transport will be required.
Oh aye, the greens will choke on their tofu on this but we'll need more fission reactors we should give coal, oil and gas power stations a max life of ten years- gives us time to get the nuclear reactors built.
Ban ordinary light bulbs, tax the s*** out of houses that don't have minimum insulation standards.

Please don't talk about wind, solar etc, too unreliable, won't provide the base load for the grid. We need nuclear power.
The great majority of waste from nukes comes in reprocessing the spent fuel to make weapons. So stop making weapons.

The irony is that you and I will be long in the grun when the real crap from global warming sets in. Laura and rasta boy will see it though and that makes me seriously angry.

There's the irony Mr Edwards, you and I both give a s*** I think but most people are too dumb or selfish.
Any politician who tries to bring about the vastly unpopular measures that are really needed will be booted out of office.

See humanity, see a species with a death wish. sad.gif

A timeless quote Sir, and univerally applicable to the Holyrood pig swill.
mortonjag 2007-05-17 10:26:14
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 17 2007, 10:17 AM) [snapback]273823[/snapback]
ohmy.gif How dare you! Alec would NEVER cheat on Moira!

She makes the best tablet in Scotland!

Well let's get her down to Golden Casket, and we'll make Dougie's machines churn out 'Mrs Salmond's Traditional Tartan Tablet'.

25% of profits to Dougie and the rest to the TON. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-17 10:27:24
QUOTE(manchesterton @ May 17 2007, 10:26 AM) [snapback]273827[/snapback]
Jug Ears

stark
mortonjag 2007-05-17 10:39:11
QUOTE(RankinBorn75 @ May 17 2007, 10:31 AM) [snapback]273830[/snapback]
Morning Champs ..

My Bolier seems to have packed in , It comes on fine and runs for about 2/3 minutes until the out pipes get hot then switches itself off , it does enough to heat the water going to the hot water tank but the radiators stay stone cold .. anyone got any ideas ? Think it might be like a thermostat control gone or something ???

Cheers if anyone can help !!

Ranks

If it's been working fine and this has suddenly happened it sounds like the thermocouple's become dodgy-cuts in fine, but cuts back out long before the correct temperature's reached.

Just a guess mind!
mortonjag 2007-05-17 10:41:52
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 17 2007, 10:39 AM) [snapback]273835[/snapback]
Elmur Fudd

shotgun
mortonjag 2007-05-17 10:43:51
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 17 2007, 01:36 AM) [snapback]273752[/snapback]
I reckon the ailing Michael gives as good as he gets, some of his comebacks have almost approached 'arkleston' class. Almost I said. It's inevitable that arguments about religion will remain unresolved. Faith is personal and resistant to questioning logic. Pointless arguing then, isn't it? Maybe, but sometimes pointless arguments can be a bit of fun.

They have much in common!
mortonjag 2007-05-17 10:46:07
QUOTE(lush @ May 17 2007, 10:43 AM) [snapback]273838[/snapback]
New Model Army

yanni
mortonjag 2007-05-17 10:50:55
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 17 2007, 10:45 AM) [snapback]273840[/snapback]
When's the last time it was serviced? The pressure may have dropped? There may be enough pressure to heat the water but it will cut off as soon as the heating tries to kick in. If that's all it is it's a simple fix but I would always get a plumber/heating engineer to look at it. Just a guess mate.

quite common in modern boilers Weegie.

Ranks-is there a (usually circular) pressure gauge on or near the boiler? If it's there it'll be obvious, and should have a red line below which the needle shouldn't drop. If that's the problem there will be a valve you can open on on the incoming (mains) cold water pipe, until the needle goes back up. Don't worry if it ends up a wee bit too high.

EDIT
Just read your last bit-how old do you think the boiler is, and did they leave you the operating instructions?
mortonjag 2007-05-17 10:56:11
QUOTE(RankinBorn75 @ May 17 2007, 10:53 AM) [snapback]273848[/snapback]
Hi MJ , yeah that is what I'm saying I used to be able to open the valve on the pressure at my old place to bring the pressure back up but I really cannot see anything aroung the boiler at all .. might ask one of the neighbours as I'm sure we all have the same system ..

sounds good-they've probably had a similar problem, or may have a handbook. It was quite common on older boilers for the thermocouple to pack in.
mortonjag 2007-05-17 10:57:07
QUOTE(lush @ May 17 2007, 10:48 AM) [snapback]273845[/snapback]
reception

suite
mortonjag 2007-05-17 10:58:37
QUOTE(lush @ May 17 2007, 10:57 AM) [snapback]273852[/snapback]
leather

chamois
mortonjag 2007-05-17 11:02:12
QUOTE(lush @ May 17 2007, 10:46 AM) [snapback]273842[/snapback]
Idle Wild

dr john
mortonjag 2007-05-17 11:03:21
QUOTE(lush @ May 17 2007, 10:59 AM) [snapback]273855[/snapback]
window cleaner

toilet cleaner
mortonjag 2007-05-17 11:07:38 Scott- I had the same problem a few years back in the West End of Glasgow.

Believe it or not, the best selection of stuff I could find was in those wee local newsagent's shops where they put the ads on a postcard in the window. You can chat up the proprietor, and learn quite a lot, especially how long it's been available. Good stuff goes like snow off a dyke.
mortonjag 2007-05-17 11:18:46
QUOTE(Benin Dahomey @ May 17 2007, 11:11 AM) [snapback]273861[/snapback]
mortonjag, you are clearly just on the wind up . happy.gif

someone with as an illustrious an academic history as you claim to have would actually be able to engage with the issues. you don't seem to even read my posts. you just highlight random bits of them and ignore the rest (i suspect because you don't understand them). huh.gif

you have not once even attempted to respond intelligently to what i have proposed. you keep repeating yourself and saying you don't like it. if that is the case fine, i made it clear early on i wasn't trying to convince anyone. but if you have no actual response to my argument, and instead want to make childish insults, then there is no point in continuing this debate. it is a debate which i regularly get involved in as a consequence of my research, and with people who can actually grasp the issues involved. so far you have not even demonstrated an understanding never mind a critical response wacko.gif .

what you have said in response to my argument is childish and laughable, and sometimes downright stupid. do you honestly think that academic achievement is worth relatively nothing? no sensible person would say that. it is clearly not everything, but to say it is worth relatively nothing is plain stupidity. comments like that just show you up for what you really are. you do realise you are coming across as really bitter and resentful towards 'wannabee doctors'? (gonnabee doctors would be more accurate though).

in conclusion, i never told anyone they were wrong solely on the basis of my opinions. biggrin.gif i do think religious people are wrong, but this is clearly based on something more than opinion. i have presented a case for this position, but you have yet to respond to it, and instead want to attack me as a person (and bizarely stirling uni, your bitterness is comical at times). anyway, if you are so convinced my grasp of the english language is so poor, do feel obliged to point out my errors (although with the execption laugh.gif of using capital letters my english has actually been fine so far). laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

i feel, however, that this will be my last post on the subject dry.gif on this board. clearly you feel my being educated in the subject is irrelevant. yet another strange view that you hold and one that seems to bar you from any meaningful engagement with what i have argued.

laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-17 11:24:05
QUOTE(StuMac @ May 17 2007, 11:17 AM) [snapback]273865[/snapback]
Each to their own, thats whats good about this new religion. You can adapt the bible to suit your needs the best, you are god after all.

Oh God of Wankeys by whose hand
My needs are daily fed
Who through this Wankey wilderness
Hath me to Heaven led

and may my God add his blessing to this reading from his Wankey word, and to his name be the praise, the honour, and the glory.

w**k without end.

AMEN
mortonjag 2007-05-17 11:27:06
QUOTE(lush @ May 17 2007, 11:25 AM) [snapback]273872[/snapback]
Doctor wink.gif

nurse
mortonjag 2007-05-17 11:28:17
QUOTE(StuMac @ May 17 2007, 11:27 AM) [snapback]273875[/snapback]
sex

wankeys
mortonjag 2007-05-17 11:30:29
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 17 2007, 11:12 AM) [snapback]273862[/snapback]
Explain.

There's no innuendo-Narky's a good bit older than you, but you both sing from the same hymn sheet-except on religion-mmm that doesn't really sound right! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-17 11:31:55
QUOTE(StuMac @ May 17 2007, 11:30 AM) [snapback]273883[/snapback]
In your dreams

nightmares
mortonjag 2007-05-17 11:33:56
QUOTE(lush @ May 17 2007, 11:33 AM) [snapback]273887[/snapback]
boak rolleyes.gif

vomit
mortonjag 2007-05-17 11:52:17
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 17 2007, 11:48 AM) [snapback]273897[/snapback]
Stain

leavin'
mortonjag 2007-05-17 11:58:05
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ May 17 2007, 11:54 AM) [snapback]273901[/snapback]
they've got f*** all in common as far as i can see.

both purported TON supporters! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-17 12:35:10 If you can't do it that way, check prices on keeptheheaton.com
mortonjag 2007-05-17 12:36:45
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 17 2007, 12:35 PM) [snapback]273934[/snapback]
Hostile

fans
mortonjag 2007-05-17 12:44:40
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ May 17 2007, 12:40 PM) [snapback]273938[/snapback]
arkleston is a morton supporter, the other guy's a tim.

laugh.gif and you're probably about to have your post deleted + six of the belt! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-17 12:48:59
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 17 2007, 12:42 PM) [snapback]273939[/snapback]
extractors

piss
mortonjag 2007-05-17 12:52:42
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ May 17 2007, 12:51 PM) [snapback]273947[/snapback]
tims, huns, they're all the same to me.

me too, but one clype and you're for it either way! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-17 12:54:05
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 17 2007, 12:49 PM) [snapback]273945[/snapback]
Dentists

cavities
mortonjag 2007-05-17 13:10:51
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Guinea piggities

hamsterities
mortonjag 2007-05-17 16:35:34 Arfur's joining I believe- now we have an erect member of society and experienced cummingtater in the flock.
mortonjag 2007-05-17 17:05:58
QUOTE(nach0king @ May 17 2007, 05:01 PM) [snapback]274077[/snapback]
I was never that sure what "tim" meant, but there are guys on P&B and BigSoccer called things like "timster", and a site called "e-tims", so does it not just apply to Celtic fans, even self-apply to Celtic fans?

If it's shown otherwise then I'll remove it but that's what I've taken it to mean since I bothered trying to find out.

Tim = Tim Molloy = Bhoy = Irishman.

Frequently, but not always used in an affectionate way.

W. of Scotland-normally signifies a Catholic, though again can be meant either way.
mortonjag 2007-05-17 17:14:43
QUOTE(irvineTON @ May 17 2007, 04:37 PM) [snapback]274068[/snapback]
So u don't want Gowser back then?
Would u rather we signed Craig Brewster or bring Tommy Coyne out of retirement for this much needed experience? tongue.gif
I agree a few older heads would be beneficial, but McGowan will only get better and should be brought back if possible.

IN MY OPINION dry.gif

A luxury, and if it can be afforded fine-AS LONG AS JM accepts he is not a striker, and will simply be again extending his supply of inexperienced young attacking midfielders.

I can't understand why almost every time a seasoned player is mentioned, we get the usual 'over the hill' crap. FFS, if those guys were not over the hill they'd still be playing at the TOP level. It's their experience we need, NOT their youth.
mortonjag 2007-05-17 17:32:09
QUOTE(marx @ May 17 2007, 05:03 PM) [snapback]274079[/snapback]
Completely untrue

anatomist
mortonjag 2007-05-17 17:33:17
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 17 2007, 05:28 PM) [snapback]274092[/snapback]
Gingefest

gingivitis
mortonjag 2007-05-17 18:11:17
QUOTE(BluebirdTon @ May 17 2007, 05:55 PM) [snapback]274103[/snapback]
I hope McGowan signs but i dont think Temps is the right player he should be playing up front with. blink.gif

It's all speculation but I guarantee that if he stays at Celtic park, he'll NEVER have a snowball's chance in hell if they play him 'up front', and his career will simply stagnate.

He was sent here to gain experience, but instead of seeing him in a choice of two out of three (also Jamie and Midge) the manager insisted he was to be played as a 'striker', while other's arses warmed the bench. I often felt sorry for the boy, especially when a genuine striker playing at right back overtook him in the 'goals scored'.
The wee man has plenty of class, but so many players falter at this stage in their careers if they're not nurtured properly. For his sake and ours, I hope he stays put.
mortonjag 2007-05-17 18:37:36 Hallelujah-footy this Saturday for the Monkey, and he can even amble over to the game. I'll be looking out for the other Ton scarves BTW! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-17 18:43:51
QUOTE(lush @ May 17 2007, 01:20 PM) [snapback]273969[/snapback]
Teardrop Explodes

s club 7
mortonjag 2007-05-17 18:45:40
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 17 2007, 06:43 PM) [snapback]274128[/snapback]
conguntivitus (sp)

aye
mortonjag 2007-05-17 19:32:42
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 17 2007, 07:07 PM) [snapback]274140[/snapback]
roger

received
mortonjag 2007-05-17 19:33:44
QUOTE(Deego @ May 17 2007, 06:51 PM) [snapback]274133[/snapback]
v*****!

naughty child
mortonjag 2007-05-17 19:40:57
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 17 2007, 02:02 PM) [snapback]273996[/snapback]
I thought the trend these days was to move out of the Port Glasgow/Greenock area? rolleyes.gif

There's some new builds near the new Tesco in the Port, although apparently they can't get mortgages as they're too close to the water!?

I thought they sorted that nonsense out years ago.

I remember a new site being built on marshland between Airdrie and Calderbank, about 35 years ago.

The architects had carefully worked out how to construct 'founds' which were essentially heavy concrete rafts, and the 'Estate' appeared almost overnight-then PANIC- nobody would take the risk of lending on them. As far as I recall they got it sorted out eventually without the prices plummetting too much, and today everything appears Hunky Dory.
mortonjag 2007-05-17 20:29:07
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 17 2007, 07:53 PM) [snapback]274157[/snapback]
Scott McLaughlin has re-signed a 1 year deal, so it looks like only Paul Mathers to sign.

Strange-I'd have thought that Mathers would have been one of the first to make a decision either way. He lives in the East-probably he's hanging on in the hope of an offer nearer home-can't see it just being the greed/stupidity syndrome.
mortonjag 2007-05-17 22:36:37
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 17 2007, 07:36 PM) [snapback]274145[/snapback]
happy retiree

Not eggsactly correct, but off to bed shortly. Another grey day eggspected tomorrow.
mortonjag 2007-05-18 04:53:36
QUOTE(nach0king @ May 17 2007, 08:42 PM) [snapback]274183[/snapback]
I don't rate McLaughlin that much and I hope we still plan on getting another defensive midfielder, but, I've been wrong about players before.

He has his faithful band of followers, but I too have been disappointed in his failure to progress. I was delighted when he came back from Livingston, but latterly I've felt he's become just another of JM's 'golden boys', even when it's been obvious somebody else could at least have been given 'a wee shot'.

I also feel, rightly or wrongly, that he maybe thinks he's a bit bigger than he really is-he always seems to be trying to boss the others around while simultaneously lacking any genuine qualities of leadership, and that may piss the others off more than anything else.
mortonjag 2007-05-18 04:58:19 With all due respect I can't possibly see how McGowan was any more instrumental in our gaining promotion than at least two or three others. Spoonsy, Sanny, and Stevenson immediately spring to mind.

Can anybody EXPLAIN what it was that the wee man did that made things so different?

Furthermore, to the best of my knowledge Alan Moore only saw him play four or five times in the whole season.

One swallow doth not a Summer make.
mortonjag 2007-05-18 05:03:42
QUOTE(Jackie @ May 17 2007, 11:50 PM) [snapback]274312[/snapback]
Sorry Toby I don't understand? In my opinion they are pretty low for sniggering during the minutes silence, not because they play for Rangers. If a Morton player did the same I'd still have the same stance.

The silence was to commemorate a respected ex Rangers' player-not some anonymous dignatory-the behaviour was that of a pair of ignorant wee boys-no more and no less IMO.
mortonjag 2007-05-18 05:12:36
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ May 17 2007, 10:18 PM) [snapback]274263[/snapback]
The untimely death of Kaj Johansen started me thinking about the best Morton players in each position I have seen in my lifetime.

I think my team would be
-------------------------Baines---------------------------

Johansen------Anderson-----Orr-------------Holmes

Ritchie------Lindberg-----Jorn Sorensen----Rooney

-----------Harper---------McGraw--------------------

Subs: Erik Sorensen, McGhee, McNab, Madsen, Jordan

Squad players: McInnes, Collins, Tolmie McLaughlin Arentoft, Turner, Thomson, Morris Stevenson

Let the debate commence!!

FFS man I'm surprised the Donn was brave enough to have a bash-we're utterly spoiled for choice here. I probably would go along similar lines to you but I'd not have Harper and McGraw together-two peas out the same pod IMO. I'd keep Jorn Sorensen, but playing a more defensive guy alongside instead of Janne would be more balanced I think.
mortonjag 2007-05-18 05:16:22 So what's a 'Tim' in the North of England where the term's widely used?
mortonjag 2007-05-18 05:17:48
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 17 2007, 10:50 PM) [snapback]274298[/snapback]
Limited vocabulary

Masterly litotic!
mortonjag 2007-05-18 05:20:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 18 2007, 01:17 AM) [snapback]274318[/snapback]
no - once you open a can, it is open for good.

they are designed that way.

biggrin.gif

...how do the worms get in then? rolleyes.gif

p.p. Sick Mick.
mortonjag 2007-05-18 05:21:59
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ May 18 2007, 01:33 AM) [snapback]274322[/snapback]
Greeting

card
mortonjag 2007-05-18 05:26:16
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 18 2007, 01:48 AM) [snapback]274325[/snapback]
Gidday StuMac,
I am still concerned about w@nkey longevity.

We need rules that ensure our survival.

Wankeyism may alas prove to have been a seven hour wonder. Didn't think anybody could keep it up much longer NewTon.
mortonjag 2007-05-18 06:18:03
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 18 2007, 03:55 AM) [snapback]274335[/snapback]
i do believe religious faith to be mistaken on this topic, but not about everything (e.g. many moral issues).

? ? ? ?

The topic is "Are You Religious?

How can one be religious without faith ?

And one can obviously have morals without being religious.

Are you just trying to complicate a "simple" question ?

ohmy.gif

It's quite sad really NewTon-young Ben's head is so far up his theoretical arse that he has to crane his neck to see past his tonsils on his 15 hour daily journeys through wonderland.

'The bookful blockhead, ignorantly read-with loads of learned lumber in his head', as Alexander Pope might have described him!
mortonjag 2007-05-18 06:19:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 18 2007, 05:44 AM) [snapback]274349[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

Were you not fortunate enough to see Jimmy Cowan, Neil Mochan or Billy Campbell play for the Ton ?

huh.gif

mad.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-18 06:25:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 18 2007, 05:59 AM) [snapback]274350[/snapback]
wot about coeducational w@nkeyism ?

One thing could lead to another and to the profileration of w@nkeyism.

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

Ha ha-the old principle of 'each one teach one' favourite of so many religious groups. I think the Wankeys are the ideal sect to use this to swell their members.
mortonjag 2007-05-18 06:31:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 18 2007, 06:25 AM) [snapback]274357[/snapback]

Truman's owners said they felt fake balls would be 'good for him psychologically', as they dropped him off at the canine childminding centre, started up the fart powered eco sledge, and whooshed into town for another day's analysis.
mortonjag 2007-05-18 06:32:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 18 2007, 06:29 AM) [snapback]274358[/snapback]
and we could play Doctors and Nurses ??

laugh.gif

...and things! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-18 06:35:34
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 18 2007, 06:22 AM) [snapback]274355[/snapback]

Poor cow. sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-18 06:37:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 18 2007, 06:19 AM) [snapback]274354[/snapback]

Sick b*****d-at least she'll never see him again.
mortonjag 2007-05-18 06:42:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 18 2007, 06:36 AM) [snapback]274362[/snapback]
I think the Wankeys are the ideal sect to use this to swell their members.

Gidday mortonjag,

the longevity of the sect needs us to swell our female members.

Perhaps we should allow them to be priestesses ?

Just don't tell Sick Mick.

wink.gif

I think Lush has ambitions in that direction-I'm all for a 'hands on', 'easy come easy go' approach-no place for Sexists in Wankeyism I say.

Micky boy's a dark horse in the Wankey stakes IMO, and would probably leave the rest of us standing.
mortonjag 2007-05-18 06:51:56 HAMSTER HADRIAN A. Suddenly, but peacefully in his cage in Shawlands, Glasgow after a short illness, Hadrian, beloved friend of Mortonjag, Mairi, and Munx, and younger brother of the late Hercules. The funeral service will be held in the wee shed opposite Lidl's on Monday21st June at 12 Noon. All friends respectfully invited. No flowers please, but donations may be made to GMST. Sadly missed. R.I.P.
mortonjag 2007-05-18 06:57:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 18 2007, 06:53 AM) [snapback]274368[/snapback]
I thought my pun was quite good.

How is the old Evity BTW?

Had a gander of late!
mortonjag 2007-05-18 07:07:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 18 2007, 06:49 AM) [snapback]274366[/snapback]
OK - I won't divulge the constraints of yer childhood.

laugh.gif

laugh.gif

TFFT!

If I'd been taken to Scapa as a child I'd have seen at least one of them play I believe, but my folks moved to Kilmacolm when I was only six, and my Dad saw football as a luxury he couldn't afford. I started going with my shool friend (despite our attending school in Pishley), just after Hal Stewart took over, so all my young memories of the Ton are precious to me. Two wee pieces of useless info-my younger brother taught George Anderson and David Hopkin (among others) in the Port High, and my 'ex' taught Derek McIness in Castlehead High in Paisley.
mortonjag 2007-05-18 07:42:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 18 2007, 07:30 AM) [snapback]274375[/snapback]
TFFT ??

TFFT Tactical Fire Fighting Truck (military)

TFFT The Flying Fish Theatre

huh.gif

Thank f*ck for that!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-18 07:44:26
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ May 18 2007, 07:36 AM) [snapback]274377[/snapback]
well, it's a start, but we'll need new faces to make any impact on the first.

Indeed- ones which have seen at least a few razor blades if not quite wrinkly!
mortonjag 2007-05-18 07:47:02
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ May 18 2007, 07:27 AM) [snapback]274373[/snapback]
begorrah! there he goes again! ah to be sure, you've been fair winchin the blarney stone lately, micheail, me ould lad.

I'm told Mick wears three condoms-to be sure, to be sure, to be sure!

Takes them off every time he goes for a piss.
mortonjag 2007-05-18 07:56:52
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ May 18 2007, 07:31 AM) [snapback]274376[/snapback]
i'm too young to remember him play, but i've heard he was a great right-back and a fine servant to morton.

rip

Thanks-left back who 'kicked with the right foot'. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-18 07:58:45
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 18 2007, 07:37 AM) [snapback]274378[/snapback]
HAMSTER HADRIAN A. Suddenly, but peacefully in his cage after a short illness, Hadrian, and younger brother of the late Hercules.

I do not mean to be insensitive at this sad time in mortonjag's life, but did Hadrian and Hercules have enough hamster lady friends ?

huh.gif

Never showed any interest, not even when the mice were in heat. Always had my suspicions, but 'don't speak ill of the dead'. mellow.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-18 08:00:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 18 2007, 07:50 AM) [snapback]274382[/snapback]
Takes them off every time he goes for a piss.

TFFT

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mortonjag 2007-05-18 08:16:00 Summary

19% totally committed
11% nominal believers
14% profess religion of birth but not really religious
12% considered agnostic
35% atheist
9% other

Looks like God's been dropped.
mortonjag 2007-05-18 08:18:36
QUOTE(shedhead @ May 18 2007, 08:13 AM) [snapback]274388[/snapback]
Ridiculing a Catholic because of his beliefs . f*** off ya old hun b*****ds. We are better than you.

Newton is an old boring b*****d who starts topics that nobodies even slighty interested in, and loves to indulge in sucking old man MJs hairy ass.

Mortonjag is an old bitter man who votes BNP , and promotes promiscuity cos his first wife had to get a bit elsewhere.

Get it right up ye ya pair a old hun b*****ds laugh.gif

laugh.gif
Off for a keech-speak soon. wub.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-18 08:42:08
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 18 2007, 08:18 AM) [snapback]274390[/snapback]
I think you'll find that the thread contains a poll with options 'considered agnostic' and 'atheist', and this has led to discussion on what is meant or understood by these terms.

A few have gone on to discuss the nature of knowledge and belief, some more ably than others.

Do keep up.

Mind you, we've not got onto the questions of what do we mean by 'God', and why are there so many huh.gif

That's true, but I genuinely started the poll AS a poll, and one little thing led to another.
mortonjag 2007-05-18 08:48:44
QUOTE(shedhead @ May 18 2007, 08:13 AM) [snapback]274388[/snapback]
Ridiculing a Catholic because of his beliefs . f*** off ya old hun b*****ds. We are better than you.

Newton is an old boring b*****d who starts topics that nobodies even slighty interested in, and loves to indulge in sucking old man MJs hairy ass.

Mortonjag is an old bitter man who votes BNP , and promotes promiscuity cos his first wife had to get a bit elsewhere.

Get it right up ye ya pair a old hun b*****ds laugh.gif

ohmy.gif Not in the confidentiality stakes it would seem.

...and where did you get the bit about my ex-that WASN'T from me-been shaggin' old ladies have you?
mortonjag 2007-05-18 08:51:56
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 18 2007, 08:48 AM) [snapback]274408[/snapback]
RIP Hadrian A. I remember when my hamster Holly died, terrible time. I was on my way to the Brownies, i was traumatised. sad.gif

The innocence of animals and children has that certain 'Je ne sais qua'.

Poor wee beastie.
mortonjag 2007-05-18 10:27:29
QUOTE(shedhead @ May 18 2007, 08:57 AM) [snapback]274414[/snapback]
He's admitted to being a BNP supporter on here , and I bet he's polished a few helmets in his time tongue.gif

You never get anything correct-I'm THE FOUNDER of our local B.N.P. branch, which reminds me I'm on duty again tonight with our Vigil Aunties, keeping watch over our flock of white sheep and having the odd pot at anything that moves. rolleyes.gif Sister Ursula's an absolute 'find'-first Nun I've ever met who could handle an iron and smoke at the same time-f*ckin' crackshot too!
mortonjag 2007-05-18 10:31:20
QUOTE(WillowMan @ May 18 2007, 10:27 AM) [snapback]274478[/snapback]
Just Mathers still to sign but will be glad if he doesn't.

Signs for whom Willow?
mortonjag 2007-05-18 10:33:00
QUOTE(IainMorton @ May 18 2007, 10:23 AM) [snapback]274474[/snapback]
Is that Stevenson as in Jamie Stevenson? blink.gif ph34r.gif

Good question Iain-I'd guess it's Morris Stevenson, though when I think about it there is more than a passing resemblance in their styles.
mortonjag 2007-05-18 10:34:05
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 18 2007, 09:36 AM) [snapback]274442[/snapback]
credit

it
mortonjag 2007-05-18 10:51:17
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 18 2007, 10:35 AM) [snapback]274491[/snapback]
What's wrong with saying tatty bowl? To be honest I'm not really offended by any of that language, because I only ever hear it when it's in a light-hearted context.

I worked with a guy from Fife who was a great laugh, and he was always saying stuff like "tatty bowl".

Fifers always did say 'cheerio' in a queer accent.
mortonjag 2007-05-18 10:51:56
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 18 2007, 10:37 AM) [snapback]274492[/snapback]
is

friday
mortonjag 2007-05-18 10:55:44
QUOTE(WillowMan @ May 18 2007, 09:22 AM) [snapback]274428[/snapback]
I'm very moved by Hadrian's sudden but peaceful death.

I've ctc one of the support group's on the below link:-
http://www.catanddoghelp.com/animals/bereavement.php
I hope this helps your family and yourself, sniff sniff, through this traumatic time.

RIP Hadgi The Hammy sad.gif

Thanks Willow, I've followed your link and left a message with 'Hoofbeats in Heaven'. I'm not sure if they do hamsters, but it's worth a try.
mortonjag 2007-05-18 10:58:55
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 18 2007, 09:35 AM) [snapback]274440[/snapback]
Sorry to hear that MJ. RIP Hadrian. I hope Munx doesn't take the news to hard.

He seems to be taking it best of the three of us-just plodding away at the 'evolution' thesis which has to be completed soon. I'm so proud-who'd have ever dreamed that a monkey could get a doctorate from Stirling University!
mortonjag 2007-05-18 10:59:49
QUOTE(C B @ May 18 2007, 10:56 AM) [snapback]274504[/snapback]
Crunchie

nuts
mortonjag 2007-05-18 11:00:47
QUOTE(C B @ May 18 2007, 10:31 AM) [snapback]274486[/snapback]
Ditto - TBH part of me wouldnt have been that phased if McLaughlin hadnt signed dry.gif

Snap!
mortonjag 2007-05-18 11:02:31
QUOTE(C B @ May 18 2007, 10:44 AM) [snapback]274495[/snapback]
I'm no old enough for this, but what the hell !
--------------------------------Davie Wylie------------------------------------

Peter Weatherson----Joe McLaughlin-------Jim Duff------------Jim Holmes

John McNeil------Janne Lindberg------Del McInnes-------Bobby Thomson

-----------------Warren Hawke---------Andy Ritchie-------------------------
Poetic Licence for big Peter !

laugh.gif

You are indeed not an old fart!
mortonjag 2007-05-18 11:17:48
QUOTE(ThornTON @ May 18 2007, 11:02 AM) [snapback]274515[/snapback]
We are sad to hear of Hadrian's passing.

An idea for a nice funeral No. 14

Thanks ThornTON-it's at times like this, you really find your friends.

The only one I'd say is definitely off-menu is the 'Nils's pig Salad Sandwich.

My Daughter in Law's Jewish, and she'll be upset enough as it is.
mortonjag 2007-05-18 11:20:16
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 18 2007, 11:07 AM) [snapback]274525[/snapback]
My commiserations to the family at this difficult time, strength and support will guide you through.

Being a Hamster man myself I can feel your pain.

Hadrian will know be re-united with his big brother Hercules to forever play on the big wheel in the sky.

Would a wreath made of cucumber and sunflower seeds be appropriate for the family.

P.S, make sure he is deceased, has your goodself made an accurate diagnosis. ( I had one when young I thought had popped his clogs, only for him to 'rise again' in the bin bag some 2 hours later, was it a miracle?).

laugh.gif

Oh he's dead alright-they're embalming him as we speak-maybe it's the wrong place and time, but those funeral directors are f*cking rip-off merchants. £6.20 to bury a hamster! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-18 11:22:18
QUOTE(se65an @ May 18 2007, 11:20 AM) [snapback]274535[/snapback]
Sorry to hear of your loss. I hope it wasn't drug related.

My thoughts are with you all at this trying and testing time.

sean, I'm pretty certain we can rule drugs out-he only came out of re-hab a month ago, and Mairi's been watching him like a hawk.
mortonjag 2007-05-18 11:27:35
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ May 18 2007, 11:22 AM) [snapback]274540[/snapback]
As in the Book of Revelation, was this the final battle between good and evil? I trust and hope that his next passage is more fulfilling.

http://www.foundrymusic.com/opieanthony/di...ARMAGEDDON.html

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-18 11:30:30
QUOTE(Benin Dahomey @ May 18 2007, 11:09 AM) [snapback]274527[/snapback]
oh come on, you can do better than that.

true, the original topic of this thread was 'are you religious', but it has long since gone past that simple question.

p.s. the 'topic' i was refering to was the existence (or not) of god, in case i wasn't clear laugh.gif .

mortonjag 2007-05-18 11:31:53
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 18 2007, 11:29 AM) [snapback]274545[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ May 18 2007, 11:04 AM) [snapback]274518[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->FHM
Maxim

minim
mortonjag 2007-05-18 11:45:04 Thanks Trick-he was really a good un at heart-I mean all the hamsters around here are into drugs and stuff-it's a deprived area you know-what saddens me is that his lifetime ambition to join the army will never be realised. sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-18 11:46:46
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 18 2007, 11:42 AM) [snapback]274555[/snapback]
Has a wee gie that weighs a ton. laugh.gif tongue.gif

has a big dodge and supports the Ton
mortonjag 2007-05-18 11:47:54
QUOTE(C B @ May 18 2007, 11:06 AM) [snapback]274523[/snapback]
Thanks, you old charmer wink.gif

wub.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-18 11:50:13
QUOTE(rex manning @ May 18 2007, 11:47 AM) [snapback]274563[/snapback]
It's a strange one. I'd love to see him stay but I don't know where i'd play him next season. As someone said earlier neither him nor Temps are penalty box strikers, and since Jim is now playing Jamie in the correct position the attacking midfield berth is taken. So for me he then becomes kinda surplus to requirements. He either becomes the replacement for Jamie after an hour (which i doubt he'd be happy with) or he takes Temps place in the team (personally i think Temps is a better link player). This is all assuming that we do sign an experienced striker in the summer though, which i personally think we're crying out for.

We could always play Spoonsy up front and try Gowser at right back. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-18 11:58:36
QUOTE(C B @ May 18 2007, 11:57 AM) [snapback]274572[/snapback]
Austin Powers

austin seven
mortonjag 2007-05-18 12:03:35
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 18 2007, 11:58 AM) [snapback]274575[/snapback]
The board's premier Troll.

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDabout to be eaten for supper.
mortonjag 2007-05-18 12:05:17
QUOTE(WillowMan @ May 17 2007, 08:56 PM) [snapback]274191[/snapback]
Guy that goes to the games in his 70's has been given an old computer as his legs are getting bad.

He's used them from his working days but needs a Windows 98 instruction manual as he used Windows 19canteen when he used to work.

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-18 12:13:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 18 2007, 12:07 PM) [snapback]274584[/snapback]
Absolute bollox on the BPC accusation. More brit propaganda ! Aye they were at it even back then ohmy.gif

It happens and always has!
mortonjag 2007-05-18 12:14:35
QUOTE(C B @ May 18 2007, 12:13 PM) [snapback]274586[/snapback]
Madness 7

Loch ness 7
mortonjag 2007-05-18 12:17:33
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 18 2007, 12:14 PM) [snapback]274587[/snapback]
Another wee piece of trivia. Anniversary this week

14 May 1690

A fleet of ships departed Greenock for the Western Highlands to begin construction of Fort William as a station for Jacobite trams.

mortonjag 2007-05-18 12:44:14
QUOTE(Waverley @ May 18 2007, 12:34 PM) [snapback]274599[/snapback]
Some of us old timers might be thinking of George Anderson.
Talk about spoilt for choice. We could field 2 great teams. I can't believe that nobody has included Joe Mason. He was the typical inside forward in the old 2-3-5 formation, who later became a tremendous mid-field general. I believe he was transferred to Rangers, in his twilight days, moreso for his coaching abilities. A very under-rated player in my opinion.

Similarities between Joe and Derek lilley when they were at their peaks.

I thought Edinton was just 'takin' the piss', rather than being ignorant of George.
mortonjag 2007-05-18 12:45:37
QUOTE(C B @ May 18 2007, 12:31 PM) [snapback]274598[/snapback]
Lochness Monster

monster mash
mortonjag 2007-05-18 12:47:23
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 18 2007, 12:41 PM) [snapback]274603[/snapback]
Considering what the british troops did to the Jacobites, I would have done the same, and I'm sure you would have too !

Shagged them.
mortonjag 2007-05-18 12:49:18
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 18 2007, 12:48 PM) [snapback]274611[/snapback]
I hear through the grapevine that certain Unions are sending e-mails to members asking them to join the Labour Party. ohmy.gif They are even offering to pay the first year of their subscription laugh.gif

Fear and despertion spring to mind tongue.gif

Plus ca change springs to mine.
mortonjag 2007-05-18 12:58:44
QUOTE(VaderTON @ May 18 2007, 12:48 PM) [snapback]274612[/snapback]
No if you were in the 70s-80s when almost every dug turd wuz white laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

That's actually true, and they had to change the formulation of the fluoride molecules added to municipal water supplies to rectify the problem.

There was a 'grey' period from the late 80's 'til about mid 92 before the full effect permeated from the local dams to the kitchen taps from which the animals' drinking water came.

The only species which remained unaffected was the Chow-the Chinese breed well known for its black tongue. Macrophages in the cells of the posterior third of the tonge were apparently able to mop up the offending white fluoride molecules before they entered the alimentary tract.

As you've probably already guessed, I am, as usual, talking a load of s***e. cool.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-18 13:02:05
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 18 2007, 12:55 PM) [snapback]274620[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ May 18 2007, 12:31 PM) [snapback]274598[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Lochness Monster
Mark Yardley (there's gotta be a connection somewhere)

Mark Footley
mortonjag 2007-05-18 13:11:32
QUOTE(VaderTON @ May 18 2007, 12:54 PM) [snapback]274619[/snapback]
Agree wi you on that se65an.....IMO Scotty`s been an invaluable player to us over the seasons....

I'd never have McLaughlin out of the squad by choice when he's playing at his best, but last season, apart from his injury he was one of the McInally 'M's.

McGregor, McLaughlin, McGowan, and McAlister all had significant spells off form, but Jim refused to give them a rest and try some fresh blood.

In Scott's case, I believe he's a c***y wee guy who maybe just has himself a bit better than he is, and IF we get our experienced 'holding' midfielder that's who Scott will have to compete with for a place. No bad thing for the Ton AND McLaughlin should that happen.
mortonjag 2007-05-18 13:31:37
QUOTE(manchesterton @ May 18 2007, 01:21 PM) [snapback]274641[/snapback]
Mark Inchley

Mark Metrey
mortonjag 2007-05-18 13:34:03
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ May 18 2007, 01:32 PM) [snapback]274644[/snapback]
we can build and redevelop stadia, but we can't magic hotel rooms up for a one month period.

You're forgetting Mr Salmond's in charge now. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-18 13:46:31
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 18 2007, 01:36 PM) [snapback]274652[/snapback]
Well if i was Mc the manager, i would have booted out Harding long ago.
Joking biggrin.gif
Awaits the wrath tongue.gif

...and replaced him with a Big Mac?
mortonjag 2007-05-18 13:49:02
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 18 2007, 01:34 PM) [snapback]274650[/snapback]
Yeah in play betting basically, not really used it before so looking forward to trying it... They also do lay betting which involves you/me being the 'bookie' and setting the odds

...on who is going to lay whom? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-18 13:50:00
QUOTE(manchesterton @ May 18 2007, 01:49 PM) [snapback]274663[/snapback]
Mark...............
Centimetrey huh.gif

Milly Metrey
mortonjag 2007-05-18 13:52:42 I imagine the cost of the feasibility study won't make the hugest of dents in the taxpayers' pockets. Though I still believe in taking care of the pence, I'd be willing to bet a pound to a penny that this will never come to fruition.
mortonjag 2007-05-18 13:56:24
QUOTE(Robert the Bruce @ May 18 2007, 01:54 PM) [snapback]274672[/snapback]
Aye, but you do search ebay looking for jobby.

Only when I'm constipated-plenty of good quality keech to be had through normal channels for most of the time.
mortonjag 2007-05-18 13:58:10
QUOTE(manchesterton @ May 18 2007, 01:51 PM) [snapback]274667[/snapback]
That's not like you mate!!!! laugh.gif

erm...are you not supposed to be me? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-18 14:24:21
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 18 2007, 02:02 PM) [snapback]274678[/snapback]
Billy Petrie

f*nny heatery
mortonjag 2007-05-18 21:06:22
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ May 18 2007, 06:17 PM) [snapback]274794[/snapback]
Peter.......

scary
mortonjag 2007-05-18 21:12:23
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ May 18 2007, 07:25 PM) [snapback]274816[/snapback]
I have great faith in the human spirit and I have great faith in Morton supporters to rally round when times get hard.

So how about doing your bit to help find Maddie. You can donate a £1 by text and you never know hopefully Maddie will be found and you can feel good about yourself into the bargain.
http://www.findmadeleine.com/

I prefer to make my own decisions about where my money goes, including the charities to which I contribute.
mortonjag 2007-05-18 21:15:32
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 18 2007, 09:10 PM) [snapback]274844[/snapback]
you have to admire the economy of the response, but if you'll forgive the cliche:

"Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt"

Trumpet, I can't decide whether that's 'tongue in cheek' wit, or if you simply missed the highlighted text with the accompanying Smiley. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-19 06:17:16
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ May 18 2007, 02:49 PM) [snapback]274705[/snapback]
Bugger! I've been rumbled! laugh.gif

We had to 'come out' soon or later! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-19 06:25:21
QUOTE(JonaTon @ May 18 2007, 11:51 PM) [snapback]274906[/snapback]
I thought MacGregor was incredibly consistent last season. I can't think of any point when people were calling for him to be dropped ?

When he came back at first his form was off, he was even slower than now, and he made several crucial mistackles. One at Stirling sticks in my mind. He's a natural footballer, and given enough space can be quite creative. Against a nippy right winger, he's still very ordinary, and had Jimbo's tracking back to thank several times this season in that respect.

Having said that, he came onto a great game when he was allowed to play a less 'left footed marking' role. He's still young, though no Gowser, and I'd give him another season before making a final decision, since the injury's obviously 'kept him back' a couple in real terms.
mortonjag 2007-05-19 06:38:42 In old fashioned formation-the only way to play REAL football, and including all guys who were Morton regulars, and at their peak, I think this lot would cope well with the SPL.
Sorensen

Johansen Holmes

Hopkin Anderson (G) Rooney

McLaren McInnes Jordan McGraw Ritchie
mortonjag 2007-05-19 06:48:57
QUOTE(BlackIsleTon @ May 18 2007, 10:19 PM) [snapback]274872[/snapback]
Fair point, id love to see christ do well in the first..but i am very pessimistic hence my view.

IMO he's already done pretty well and still been crucified for it.
mortonjag 2007-05-19 06:52:57
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 18 2007, 11:02 PM) [snapback]274887[/snapback]
unsure.gif

Nudist perhaps Gibby

'Nae coat and fur 'knickers'. ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-19 06:56:10
QUOTE(TaunTon @ May 18 2007, 11:41 PM) [snapback]274900[/snapback]
I'm quite happy to become a new convert if you can accomodate my interest in chubby women with dark hair and glasses wub.gif

Indeed, you are welcome to worship a picture of your favourite barmaid.
mortonjag 2007-05-19 06:58:44
QUOTE(arklesTON @ May 18 2007, 11:42 PM) [snapback]274902[/snapback]
Since you like posting pointless stories that nobody is interested in, read this...

Clicky

He got over the moat which is remarkable because (I THOUGHT) gorillas couldn't swim! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-19 07:05:07
QUOTE(arklesTON @ May 18 2007, 11:40 PM) [snapback]274899[/snapback]
All these muslim extremists seem to be repulsed by the white christian infidels, I am interested to know what the Muslims and Scientologists make of each other.

The Muslims win hands down-they'd never go near that lot, but their commercial interests grab a chunk of Scientology's profits.
mortonjag 2007-05-19 07:08:39
QUOTE(shedhead @ May 19 2007, 01:02 AM) [snapback]274935[/snapback]
Well I think it's in poor taste as it refers to the Irish potato famine. If thats acceptable then how about calling White Hart Lane the gas chamber.

Hitler stole the tatties? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-19 07:14:47
QUOTE(Jackie @ May 19 2007, 12:47 AM) [snapback]274929[/snapback]
Could you imagine the press if it was a girl from a council estate that was stolen. The parents would be getting slaughtered, and I hope when everything is settled, hopefully with a happy ending, the parents of Maddie are dealt with appropriately in the press. Absolutely shcoking what they've done imo, imagine leaving a young child alone in a hotel room mad.gif mad.gif

Sorry if people find the above post offensive, it's just the way I feel about it. Find the whole thing utterly shocking
Incidentally, since all this Maddie news broke, has anyone heard anything of the Scottish reporter being held captive? Because I have't heard a peep.

There's nothing offensive about your post at all IMO.

They've cleverly (if not deviously) turned all attention to saving the poor wee soul, and grabbed huge publicity into the bargain.

As a member of the same profession, I regard their behaviour throughout as reprehensible.
mortonjag 2007-05-19 07:19:14
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 19 2007, 12:56 AM) [snapback]274934[/snapback]
chips
Edit. Hint, Actor tongue.gif who's not a pouffe

fish
mortonjag 2007-05-19 07:21:28
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 18 2007, 09:31 PM) [snapback]274852[/snapback]
neither aspect of economy went unnoticed rolleyes.gif

I have changed my signature to boost the economy. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-19 07:35:26 [quote name='Colkitto' date='May 18 2007, 02:19 PM' post='274694']
Not often you make me laugh Tom ohmy.gif laugh.gif


Colkitto, your Procrustean spin of anything which theatens your immaculate perception of Nationalism gets tiring at times.

In Jacobite days, the 'bonny' and brightly clad Charlie was by definition, GAY.

Anyway, who really cares? I suspect he was a rampant polysexual with a penchant for African Greys, who took elephants up the arse six at a time, while reading the bible.
mortonjag 2007-05-19 07:40:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 19 2007, 07:39 AM) [snapback]274966[/snapback]
Rafferty

raftery
mortonjag 2007-05-19 07:57:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 19 2007, 07:30 AM) [snapback]274964[/snapback]
I'm so proud-who'd ever have believed a monkey got get a doctorate from Stirling University?
Gidday mortonjag,

You are a BAD man, mate.

Yer grammar is not the best.

laugh.gif laugh.gif

laugh.gif It wasn't me, it was that Munx-he does some of the typing when I'm tired, but as you see it's now fixed.

He claims he scanned it with his PUMPER ( Patent University Matriculant Punctuation Error Rectifier), as the SURGE (Stirling University Rubbish Grammar Eraser) needs batteries.

Seems those Stirling Uni wallahs never admit they've made a mistake, or when it's staring them in the face, they blame it on something else! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-19 07:59:24
QUOTE(TaunTon @ May 19 2007, 07:50 AM) [snapback]274970[/snapback]
Bollox to barmaids - It's the librarian types that have hooked me wink.gif

Then w*nk thee in peace! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-19 08:02:47
QUOTE(TaunTon @ May 19 2007, 07:55 AM) [snapback]274971[/snapback]
I assume you mean the player that Jordan became rather than the one we saw.

Aye-which is a wee bit unfair-he was a proper wimp at Scapa-funny what a punch in the mouth can do for a lad!!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-19 08:08:20
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 19 2007, 08:03 AM) [snapback]274975[/snapback]
excellent.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
However, I would respectfully suggest that "Stirling University Rubbish Grammar" is tautological.
huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif

You'll be telling me next you didn't need your DISC (Designer Integrated Spelling Checker) to do that last word.

Sounds like a really bright Spud to me!
mortonjag 2007-05-19 08:22:29
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 19 2007, 08:17 AM) [snapback]274978[/snapback]
Having a go at the RC's again, wait till paranoid brigade see this. laugh.gif

Seems everything I slip in has to be uncovered.
mortonjag 2007-05-19 08:24:26
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 19 2007, 08:20 AM) [snapback]274979[/snapback]
MJ
Your nonsensical rantings get tiring all the time more like it. Trying to be controversial ALL the time is what's boring You made a cheap remark about the Jacobites and thought you were funny. Maybe some found it funny (doubt it though), I didn't.

And what a load of bollox blink.gif about Bonnie Prince Charlie. He was not a homosexual. That's what was being inferred originally, nothing to do with his bright clothes.

And for your last remark, well..... huh.gif you must have some imagination, or read some dodgy books

Oh away and renew that prescription before they section you ya' daftie.
mortonjag 2007-05-19 08:26:00
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 19 2007, 08:24 AM) [snapback]274982[/snapback]
laugh.gif
I bet you told the wife you were allergic to rubber. laugh.gif

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-19 08:33:12
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 19 2007, 08:24 AM) [snapback]274984[/snapback]
TFFT wink.gif
I see that Benin does not have a degree in keeping his word. ohmy.gif
OFFS. BTW oh holder of many degrees from the finest varsities in the land, the word is phenomemon, phenomena is the plural. Here to help. tongue.gif
Normally it's the boys from Mordor who claim that.
Indeed, Mordor and the Estadio de Patatas are Scotland's Soddom and Gommorah, populous but doomed in the eyes of God. ( To maintain the religious theme.)

You are attempting to belittle a mere child on a forum of adult intellectuals Bam.

No good Protes Professional should do things so base! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-19 08:36:18
QUOTE(TaunTon @ May 19 2007, 08:32 AM) [snapback]274986[/snapback]
What have you got against wigs ph34r.gif

laugh.gif Very handy on the suporters bus when you need toupee.
mortonjag 2007-05-19 10:23:28
QUOTE(para @ May 19 2007, 09:21 AM) [snapback]275000[/snapback]
the more I think on the players that graced cappielow

some were just Morton greats but we saw a few who came in at the end of their timeand Im not talking about 2nd time round

Bobby Collins
Steve Chalmers
Jim Clarke
John Goldthorpe
Ali Scott

Im sure there are others that will surface

I assume that the top players make so much money they dont need to drop down the leagues

Its a shame we have transfer windows because you could always rely on Hal doing a surprise signing the day of a big match or cup tie

At the very start of the Hal revolution we had Doug Cowie, Archie Robertson, and slightly later, Bobby Evans-all ex Internationals.

Archie Robertson was fairly unusual I believe, in that he was also a university graduate-nowadays that's quite normal. He gained some fame /notoriety by scoring direct from a corner against Cellic in a cup final (playing for Clyde). He was the 'dead ball' expert too, but in those days the construction and weight of a football made modern style 'frees' impossible-the usual thing was to hammer the ball very low and very accurately, with no attempt at spin..

Both Cowie and Evans-particularly the latter were born leaders and played in midfield. I'm certain Bobby was still playing in his early forties.

Doug Cowie was a cultured 'half back' who I recall had caps with Raith Rovers. Boss of the 'boiler house'.

Does anyone remember the original 'Man in Black'-before Sorensen-a reasonably competent keeper called Finbarr Flood?
mortonjag 2007-05-19 10:27:14
QUOTE(TaunTon @ May 19 2007, 10:12 AM) [snapback]275007[/snapback]
You met another rain spotter unsure.gif laugh.gif

wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-19 10:31:56 Mairi's off on a bus trip to Colintraive. laugh.gif

Peace, perfect peace. I was planning to take in the game at Cathkin, but unless it dries up mighty quick, that's off menu.

Probably just service the mobility scooter for the M.O.T., check my supply of inco-pads, and fall asleep 'til she comes home.

Then the usual Saturday night curry-but it's not the same trying to look forward to that with no 'footie'.
mortonjag 2007-05-19 10:41:49
QUOTE(lemmington @ May 19 2007, 09:05 AM) [snapback]274992[/snapback]
This topic might have been mentioned.
Now that a bank has won a claim not to pay out bank charges to an individual,do you think this is the end of payouts?
I am currently in the process of trying to redeem my charges(about £1000).
I am at the stage where they have lettered me that they were quite right to charge me for being overdrawn.
Next stage is to take them to court.........
Do I proceed????
Or do I not??????
Looking for advice.

This is only general advice as I don't know your individual circumstances.

Banks are bullies, and folk are easily scared off. Most of the charges collection is delegated to relatively junior staff. The one thing they DON'T like is losing customers.

Put your case politely but firmly. State that you are not willing to accept the charges, and unless they are refunded, you will move your account. There are plenty of competitors willing to do all the paperwork for you-it doesn't have to be a huge hassle with Standing Orders, Direct Debits etc. Explain that you know that and have some other bank eager for your account.

Finally make sure your letter is addressed to Customer Services, and send it to their registered Head Office-oh and keep yer copy!!
mortonjag 2007-05-19 11:21:36
QUOTE(WillowMan @ May 19 2007, 12:00 AM) [snapback]274910[/snapback]
I can't believe there's yet another thread about Temps mad.gif

Some folk just won't give up until he's slated to death and then leaves the club.

OK Temps GTF and leave us with Bobby Linn and possibly McGowan.

Two much better players, despite the fact Linn has hardly played 90mins of Foottie for us with all his appearances added together and the fact that McGowan is just a young lad who struggled for a 3rd of the season.

Amazing how we don't have threads on McGregor, Greacen EG week in week out but we do about a striker who's made most of McGowan's goals blink.gif

I didn't know you felt so strongly about that Willow.

I know the thread's about Sanny-I rate him highly-he's been much misunderstood.

Bobby Linn was effectively told he'd have to 'wait for his chance' when he arrived, despite Mathers having immediately displaced Davie McGurn.

The reason was simple-we had too many midfielders at the expense of others yet Gowser had been brought on loan from the mighty Celtic, and clearly HAD to get practice.

No harm in that at all-but the manager INSISTED he was a striker, and therein lay more than one problem.

Instead of seeing him as a replacement for Jamie or Chris, depending on form, he kept Lilley, laterly Linn, and arguably Spoonsy out of a forward line in which Sanny had evolved to the role of 'target man' rather than striker.

When his form significantly dropped AS IT DID for over two months (without one goal) he was paraded week in, week out, to flatter to deceive. The fans got restless and demanded another STRIKER as Lilley presumably got pissed off warming the bench. Then of course our proven striker arrived, and in his absolute desperation to prove himself (which he had already done elsewhere), he didn't settle in those games where he was tried, and missed several good chances.

Linn and Templeman should have been playing together from the minute Bobby arrived IMO.
mortonjag 2007-05-19 11:25:02
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 19 2007, 11:07 AM) [snapback]275042[/snapback]
Stunning scenery on a good day.

That MAY have been the plan! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-19 11:26:57
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 19 2007, 10:23 AM) [snapback]275012[/snapback]
Tarfery

FARTERY wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-19 11:31:31
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 19 2007, 10:52 AM) [snapback]275029[/snapback]
Good proddies. Bless them all. Though it is worth pointing out that Protestants should be staunch.

Taigs like myself are devout.

Episcopalians are middle class folk who dislike the dourness of full on presbyterianism but think that Catholics are all Paddies who vote labour, have 23 weans, and sing Kevin Barry. wink.gif

And Baptists are folk who meet their maker somewhat prematurely if a qualified electrician hasn't wired up the immersion font. cool.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-19 12:25:18
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 19 2007, 10:46 AM) [snapback]275022[/snapback]
Ah but I can, for the same reason as Spike Lee can say "*potential ethnic slur removed*".

Edit to include. Spike doesn't actually say " potential ethnic slur remover". That's either good software or Nacho's very quick today. laugh.gif

nach0 may simply have spotted the 'bananagram', as Munx calls them.

'Potential ethnic slur removed' may be translated (with a modicum of faith) to 'Ed: Stop violent Lutheran crime' unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-19 12:35:50
QUOTE(se65an @ May 19 2007, 11:06 AM) [snapback]275041[/snapback]
I would agree, looks like it has been 'adapted'

Cat, fotie, or both? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-19 12:38:28
QUOTE(se65an @ May 19 2007, 12:36 PM) [snapback]275074[/snapback]
The car rolleyes.gif

I thought it looked like an ordinary black moggie taken on the bonnet of a car from a suitable angle!
mortonjag 2007-05-19 12:48:23
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ May 19 2007, 12:47 PM) [snapback]275078[/snapback]
Burpery

burberry
mortonjag 2007-05-19 12:57:30
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ May 19 2007, 11:33 AM) [snapback]275052[/snapback]
I just about remember the name Finbar Flood but can't remember if I saw him play. Did he not come via Celtic? I don't remember him being the man in black and that title was given by the press to Erik Sorensen at his trial debut. This was a pre season friendly against Third Lanark at Cathkin and we won 3-1 or 3-2. A mystery keeper who turned out to be Sorensen turned out all in black and saved two penalties in the game.

This was another example of Hal Stewart's showmanship as instead of just some keeper making his debut, he milked the mystery man angle for all it was worth and got miles more press coverage.

I 'm pretty certain Flood came from one of the Irish leagues-Linfield from memory-but ONLY!

He always wore black, and although the national press weren't that interested in the Ton yet, he was known locally as 'The man in black'-I'm sure Hal got that going!

Others then were Boyd, Mallon, Kiernan, Strachan, Reilly , Kelly...and the memory starts to go.
mortonjag 2007-05-19 12:59:08
QUOTE(Capuan @ May 19 2007, 12:56 PM) [snapback]275082[/snapback]
ned

kelly
mortonjag 2007-05-19 13:06:29 I just realised it's on terrestrial TV-I'll definitely watch from the start but if I get bored I'll switch off.
mortonjag 2007-05-19 13:17:17 Nice one , you f*cking gopher.

More interested in protecting your filthy lucrative secrets than in appealing to the voters.

Mind you-a Kirkcaldy Presbeterian minister's son-say no more.
mortonjag 2007-05-19 13:21:56
QUOTE(briggsTON @ May 19 2007, 01:05 PM) [snapback]275087[/snapback]
Morton played Shelbourne in a friendly and as a result signed Flood and Paddy Turner from the Irish club, Turner was sold to Celtic for around £20k after scoring against them in a Scottish Cup tie.Both players were flown from Dublin regularly.

Thanks-I now remember Paddy Turner who became a mini celeb before he left us-any other recollections?

Jim Kiernan was one of my heroes, and I once met him in a cafe in Paisley-where he lived, and where I went to school. I was in total awe as he autographed a paper napkin for me-which I still have!
mortonjag 2007-05-19 13:25:05
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 19 2007, 01:10 PM) [snapback]275091[/snapback]
Three pages before Eric Sorensen gets mentioned.

Baines was a great goalie but the young me remembers Eric as a woderfully athletic sho stopper with a superb positional sense. I would put him in goal.

Erik's reflexes were second to none, and he saved a whole string of successive penalties when he came-at least six-maybe more. He was a striker's nightmare, but because he wore contact lenses, he took longer to deal with pots from distance, and occasionally made a complete arse of them.
mortonjag 2007-05-19 13:26:03
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 19 2007, 01:14 PM) [snapback]275093[/snapback]
I'm not going to contribute my views on this thread. I refuse to accept the title. biggrin.gif

EVERYBODY farts.
mortonjag 2007-05-19 13:29:03
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 19 2007, 01:09 PM) [snapback]275090[/snapback]
You not going to Cathkin Park, I was going to head up but it's a bit wet for the kids. Honestly don't know if I could watch the whole final.

It's been 'toriental' here midTONs-I wouldn't be surprised if it's off, and there's no cover. I live only a mile or so away.
mortonjag 2007-05-19 13:36:56
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 19 2007, 11:57 AM) [snapback]275058[/snapback]
You really are one hell of a sensitive soul.

The Potato Bowl, Tatty Bowl, my Septic supporting frinds call it that, if its ok for them its ok for the rest of us.

Indeed- my daughter and son in law have season tickets for the 'Tatty bowel'-as they affectionately call it.
mortonjag 2007-05-19 13:38:06
QUOTE(Morton_T.I.D @ May 19 2007, 01:31 PM) [snapback]275103[/snapback]
Kelly (the wwe diva wub.gif )

plunge
mortonjag 2007-05-19 17:30:30
QUOTE(Waverley @ May 19 2007, 02:28 PM) [snapback]275126[/snapback]
Moro Mani, what a joke he was.
The earliest goalkeeper that I can remember was Johnny Kay(e). Also, there was (Bill?) Cowper, Andy Crawford and of course Flood, Millar, Brown, Sorensen, Baines, Neilsen. Although Sorensen was the most acrobatic, he did, as someone else mentioned, get caught out on the occasional long range shot. The most consistent, competent goalie. for me, was Lief Neilsen.
Another character that no one has mentioned yet was "Abdul" McTurk. A full-back in the Johnnie Boyd mould, with long flowing blond hair. He used to wear the old brown boots that came up above the ankle. What a kick he had.

Hardly by modern standards-but aye!

Do you remember he used to take the penalties. It wasn't so much a case of which side they would go to, as whether or not the goalie would stay in front of his line!!! As I recall, his 'run -up' was about 20 yards!
mortonjag 2007-05-19 18:14:06
QUOTE(Benin Dahomey @ May 19 2007, 02:41 PM) [snapback]275131[/snapback]
i think you will find that there is more than one religious faith in the world, so the plural is appropriate.

anyway, i only replied again because newton appeared to be asking a sincere question. obviously i have upset one of the clique on this board. however, neither he nor his mates actually has anything intelligent to say on the matter. trying to belittle stirling uni as an institution is a waste of time. the university's reputation will hardly be affected by idiots like mortonjag on an internet messageboard. (anyway mortonjag, i like your new sig. i honestly do. its good to know i got to you so much)

I thought you had curled up and died Benny boy! wub.gif

Far from MY trying to ridicule Stirling University, you appear to have done so in an inimitably grandiose style.

I'm sorry son, but you'll just have to accept the 'relativity' of everything in life, and please don't tell me that you're ploughing through Einstein as well.

There is nothing particularly valuable or admirable in academic achievement per se, but if you intend to impress folk, don't start blabbering on in a manner which totally degrades a perfectly reputable institution. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. I'd LOVE the Chancellor, or Secretary of Court to have a wee gander at your posts.

Everything I've told you about this 'idiot' is true. The said 'idiot' has thus inferred that on a comparable evolutionary scale you are barely reptilian.

Just while I'm on, a point of information! I do not know one other poster on the thread personally. What is this 'clique' thing you mention? unsure.gif

Ben-I mean this absolutely genuinely and seriously now, as a fellow Ton supporter. You're a clever lad, and good luck in your studies. Just try to get this all into perspective, and never try to lecture your elders on the forum. No matter how well you do it, or how correct you may be, you'll be chewed up and spat out in little pieces. sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-19 19:38:16
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 19 2007, 05:51 PM) [snapback]275195[/snapback]
Now I do hate to be the pedantic pedagogue but................... laugh.gif

Let's look at what you wrote.
If the plural was intended then you should not have used the "a" which matches well with the singular but not with the plural. As an example we talk about "a dog" but when the plural is used we would not use "a" as in " a dogs"

As I say, here to help. wink.gif

BTW Benin, MJ is, as I have stated elsewhere, a troll of the worst type. Treat him like all trolls, humour him but do not feed him.

Edit because I can't type for toffee. laugh.gif

laugh.gif Bam McT- unlikely champion of the Billy Boys Goats Gruff!
mortonjag 2007-05-19 19:48:22
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 19 2007, 07:38 PM) [snapback]275264[/snapback]
moderators laugh.gif

church of scotland
mortonjag 2007-05-19 19:53:41 We've got to get it right-we can't just buy a player because he's become available and has been influential with a lesser side than ourselves.
mortonjag 2007-05-19 21:49:23
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 19 2007, 09:21 PM) [snapback]275349[/snapback]
Well according to JM he is looking to bring in a decent MID and maybe 2 strikers, a decent LB would be good, wasnt that long ago that all of you were shouting to sign him, ffs, what do you all want. The Guy CAN play at a higher level

It's a valid point from Bluebird though. We really are short of full backs, and if Weatherson's played there again I will be furious. You always tend to think of the experienced motivator as a midfielder, but it needn't be that way.
mortonjag 2007-05-19 21:52:56
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 19 2007, 09:26 PM) [snapback]275352[/snapback]
blink.gif and?
Physician, heal thyself biggrin.gif

rolleyes.gif I kinda get the drift Trumpet-somebody's hand slip at that vasectomy? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-19 21:56:08
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 19 2007, 09:48 PM) [snapback]275356[/snapback]
Church of england

School of whales
mortonjag 2007-05-19 21:58:17
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 19 2007, 08:54 PM) [snapback]275329[/snapback]
.................Have a can of lager or a cup of tea ?

Can you have A can of lager? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-19 22:00:20
QUOTE(marbellaton @ May 19 2007, 09:20 PM) [snapback]275348[/snapback]
Don't see why people should get their charges back. They know the rules when they open the account as they should read the terms and conditions. It's not like parking on double yellow lines when you might get away with it, go overdrawn without asking for a limit and you deserve the charges.

Also, if people are trying to get their charges back and have an authorised overdraft, the bank is within it's rights to ask for full payment of the balance outstanding, again within the terms and conditions of most accounts and if they don't have a bank lined up to take on their overdraft, what are they going to do?

Yes the actual amount of the individual charges may appear to be excessive, but they are set that way to try and stop folk taking unauthorised overdrafts. Don't spend what you don't have and you will not get charged, simple.

laugh.gif

That's got to be one of the best jokes I've heard this week.
mortonjag 2007-05-19 22:01:14
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 19 2007, 09:59 PM) [snapback]275363[/snapback]
Dolphins

Doll prams
mortonjag 2007-05-20 07:20:06
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 19 2007, 10:15 PM) [snapback]275373[/snapback]
You know that it makes a vas deferens to your life. wink.gif

Just don't get it done on the NHS mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

Au contraire Monsieur-why splash the cash-use the old NHS-it's a snip.
mortonjag 2007-05-20 07:21:14
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 19 2007, 10:26 PM) [snapback]275379[/snapback]
giraffe's baws rolleyes.gif

Monkey nuts to you.
mortonjag 2007-05-20 07:32:56
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ May 20 2007, 02:14 AM) [snapback]275433[/snapback]
i don't agree. i think any education is admirable, and although king gezo is coming across as a wee bit too sure of his position, i expect when he's a few steps removed from his studies he'll have accumulated the mental tools to look back on his slight arrogance and have a wry laugh about the confidence of his youth.

I don't wholly disagree, but I'm inclined to value someone on his contribution to our general wellbeing far more than on anything else.

As you rightly suggest, young Ben may well have a wee laugh at himself in years to come, just as many of us had to do.
I'm just slightly concerned that he's in danger of riding his hobby horse into some narrow professorial cul de sac where he'll blindly wallow in the mutual self congratulation and back scratching which frequently buoys the 'establisment' of our 'Ivory Towers'.
mortonjag 2007-05-20 08:10:42 The worst types are of course toted by agnostic porters.

Mine-social workers, bureaucrats, and politicians, though in the latter case I'd argue that I'm correct! unsure.gif

Mind you I guess we can all have a wee laugh at our peccadilloes once in a while.

Colkitto is reported to have been seen wiping away the remains of a 'Full English Breakfast' with a tartan tea towel, Shedhead is not, I suspect, averse to sporting the odd Calvin Klein shirt, and Sick Mick may well take his medication, mixed with orange juice.

Bam McT will no doubt soon be eagerly pawing his tattered tomes in an attempt to discredit my spelling-well Bam-peccavi?

Always important to let things swing both ways!! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-20 08:26:02
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ May 20 2007, 03:22 AM) [snapback]275467[/snapback]
i get pissed off about the hysteria about paedophilia. seems to me that regular people are being browbeaten by our ridiculous press into bringing our children up with fear. i don't think the parents did anything wrong, it was just unbelievably bad luck what happened to their daughter.

i've smiled, or stuck my tongue out at, a few weans in the street or in shops only to be rewarded by filthy looks from the parent. our society's totally f***ed up with our media.

Spot on-I recently visited a community based charity in Maryhill. It's sited in an old Methodist Church building, and the manager was showing me around. We came to a closed door through which I could see children having fun in their 'nursery'.

The manager said, 'The concert area's just through that room but well have to go outside the building and round to the back entrance'. I wasn't allowed to go through the door because I did not possess an 'enhanced disclosure' a pre requisite for all staff members and visitors! dry.gif

I loved the Rab C Nesbitt take on 'Peedyfiles'-anybody see it? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-20 08:31:58
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 20 2007, 03:54 AM) [snapback]275492[/snapback]
Aye, ye think? What happens if I gun you dwn in 4 minutes? Eh? Eh? EEEHHH??

I'm nae organ donor, I'm a skilled motorcyclist on a lovely new piece of Japanese engineering. Ya c***.

...life support machine.
mortonjag 2007-05-20 08:35:26
QUOTE(Kaney @ May 19 2007, 11:33 PM) [snapback]275403[/snapback]
Right. Imagine yerself in my shoes if ye can.
Heres a breif description:

19 Years Old (20 In August)
Loves Music (Guitar Player)
Only 1 Passed Higher Exam (Physics)
NC Engineering and 1/2 the HNC Engineering Course.
Currently employed with BNS on an apprenticeship at Faslane on £17.8K p/a.
Will go up to £21.8k in august if I stay on.

Wants a new car,
House,
Family.

However....
Believes in "A dream unchased is a life at waste"
Id love to be a guitar teacher fulltime. It will require at least 4 years at college and uni tho.
If you were in my shoes, what would you do?

Nobody can tell you what to do-life's a lottery.

I'd just ask one question-HOW good are you on guitar?

If you've got real talent you'll be able to make plenty of money as a tutor without any paper qualifications. In my experience many, if not most of the world's best guitarists have no formal qualifications.
mortonjag 2007-05-20 08:45:25
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ May 19 2007, 11:13 PM) [snapback]275397[/snapback]
of mercy

bucket
mortonjag 2007-05-20 09:01:13
QUOTE(marbellaton @ May 19 2007, 11:22 PM) [snapback]275400[/snapback]
whats funny about it?

The banks' software is deliberately set up to authorise 'unauthorised' overdrafts and apply the charge simultaneously.

The bank will not 'authorise' where the account has become suspect in terms of creditworthiness.

To suggest that banks have a grain of interest in customer service, let alone even understand the word 'morality', is IMO naive.
mortonjag 2007-05-20 09:08:11
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ May 19 2007, 11:48 PM) [snapback]275406[/snapback]
a war criminal and a spiv. a man of no worth whatsoever. i only feel contempt for him.

Litosis Sir-I'd just say 'Pond life'. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-20 09:19:29 Reminds me of the story of the old widowed C of S Minister whose three sons (two had followed their old man's profession, while the other was somewhat reprobate) visited at Hogmanay.

Asked by the old boy on the next morning, how they'd slept, the first replied, 'Father I dreamt I was in Heaven, and it was just like home', the second added, 'I dreamt I was walking through a beautiful garden with my maker, and it was just like home', while the third curtly grunted 'I dreamt I was in Hell-couldn't get near the fire for f*cking Ministers.
mortonjag 2007-05-20 14:29:49
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 20 2007, 10:42 AM) [snapback]275531[/snapback]
I've got an Art O-Grade (C pass). Is that any good? unsure.gif

Good for what? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-20 14:36:03
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ May 20 2007, 09:56 AM) [snapback]275525[/snapback]
Making a living from being a professional musician is like making a living from being a professional footballer - possible but you have to be in the very top few percent of players. How many people play football? What percentage play professionally?

The best guitarist in the West of Scotland is a guy I know and have played with. He does sessions and tours with well known names. He probably earns not much more than you expect to go on to next year.

Finish your apprenticeship. If you love music, make it your hobby. You can play in bands and give lessons at the same time as holding down a job. If you want that degree in music,consider the likes of the open university. If you are good enough, you can then consider going full time.

Me, I played in jazz bands when I was young and thought briefly of giving up training as a CA to do it full time. Am I ever glad that I did'nt because I have had a good professional career and still had my music as an outlet - something totally enjoyable and away from the stresses and strains of business. If you play in bands its great unless you are doing too much and then it becomes work, just like any other job. If you are my age and humph loads of gear around to gigs and get home at 3-4 in the morning, thats not fun. For that reason I have deliberately kept my music as my hobby and we play 2/3 times a month and it stays fun.

Finally, I play with a guy who is very highly qualified - he has a degree from the Berkeley School of Music in the US - and has toured the world with a very big name band as their musical director. He plays keyboards with us but is also an ace guitarist and gives lessons. He's forgotton more about music than I will ever know. If you want to talk to someone about making it in the music business PM me and I'll arrange for you to meet him.

ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-20 14:47:22
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 20 2007, 10:33 AM) [snapback]275529[/snapback]
Now now Jagermeister calm down, calm down.

Has nice nurse Ratched not given you your daily ECT yet?

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDThe clue was 'peccavi'.
mortonjag 2007-05-20 14:48:59
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ May 20 2007, 02:47 PM) [snapback]275608[/snapback]
Saying someone is the best in the West of Scotland at anything is obviously highly subjective but the man I have in mind is certainly the best I have played with. He's a seriously good musician and can play in almost any style you ask but he still does not earn fortunes.

You don't have to be a brilliant musician to make the pop charts. Nowadays that seems to be controlled by Simon Cowell and his ilk and being good looking seems to more important than talent. If you are going to make it as a jobbing musician - say the kind of guy who gets picked for the backing band on a tour, then you have to be good.

And you don't make fortunes.

laugh.gif rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-20 14:52:50
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 20 2007, 01:15 PM) [snapback]275573[/snapback]
Picture

nose
mortonjag 2007-05-20 14:55:34
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 20 2007, 12:50 PM) [snapback]275559[/snapback]
And in other breaking news the vatican have announced the pope is a catholic. dry.gif

.....and The Rev Dr. Paisley has stated-'Now they will finally believe me'.
mortonjag 2007-05-20 15:00:56
QUOTE(arklesTON @ May 20 2007, 10:58 AM) [snapback]275533[/snapback]
I read in the papers the other day that Scott McLaughlin had an offer from Belgium but decided to stay with Morton.

I wonder if it was Carrefour or Burger King?

An twerp in the squad.
mortonjag 2007-05-20 15:18:58
QUOTE(bonzo @ May 20 2007, 10:22 AM) [snapback]275527[/snapback]
I think some people here are getting a little bit ego triped that you are going to have players with SPL and First Div experience to come knocking on your door.

Do not just focus on are they good enough to play Div 1. Out of your whole team are you sure you have those players, i think not. If you were impresed by a players skill in Div 2, and you were saying that you would not mind him playing for the Ton, just cause you went up a division, all of a sudden does not make that player overnight become crap.

There were many a post in the past here about Dougie, and i believe he has the skills to bolster your team. I can only go by feedback i have had this season, and from what i watched the season before, he is solid in his tackles, plays the simple ball, and runs his arse off.

I do wish the ton all the best for next season, so none of my comments are because we finshed 3rd bottom, or is it said because i am dougies manager, i just think that sometimes as in work, just cause you used to work for a lerger company makes you any better, sometimes the paper boy becomes the next multi millionare.

You are correct.
What I meant in my previous post was that we should not be hasty, and perhaps live to regret it. Cameron is an excellent player, as are some others currently with second division squads. Kevin Byers at Brechin is an example.

I believe we need MORE-sure, it may not be easy, but St Johnstone showed the benefit of some 'old heads' last season, and were only pipped at the post by money.
mortonjag 2007-05-20 15:22:07
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 20 2007, 03:19 PM) [snapback]275622[/snapback]
Snotters

bogeys
mortonjag 2007-05-20 15:28:50
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 19 2007, 09:05 PM) [snapback]275340[/snapback]
I was BORN and bred in the Gibby, prob the best community in Inverclyde, in the 70's. The rest turned out to be a bunch of druggie and alky besterds wink.gif

No doubt the arguments will flow in, but i will stick to my words, feck ye all rolleyes.gif

Not where you're born and bred that matters Gibby-it's what you make of it. My view of life's rich tapestry is that its lowest form has plenty of money and no breeding.
mortonjag 2007-05-20 15:34:17
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ May 19 2007, 10:56 PM) [snapback]275392[/snapback]
My exact comments when I heard .. lol

A good chance for me to try and blag my way on the tele haha

Not a snowball's chance in hell Scott if 'Faith' gets the same response to her as she's had from the forum.

Sad, sad lassie with massive tits and a tiny self esteem sleep.gif .
mortonjag 2007-05-20 15:39:00
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 20 2007, 03:12 PM) [snapback]275619[/snapback]
I don't think Colkitto needed to rub anything English away, they have been doing a full Scottish breakfast with views over the Well Park in Milan since it opened, just ask Upaclose. laugh.gif

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Haven't heard much from claymore c0ck today-is he preaching or something?
mortonjag 2007-05-20 15:42:28
QUOTE(ThornTON @ May 19 2007, 08:31 PM) [snapback]275305[/snapback]
Watched the FA cup final in the pub in Queen St station with irvineTON, dear god that game was pish, made me have my first pint (and second) since August 13th!

The road to hell young man!

Anyway, you've got plenty of time to sober up.
mortonjag 2007-05-20 15:50:14
QUOTE(marx @ May 20 2007, 01:46 AM) [snapback]275424[/snapback]
I'm sure there a number of folk on here in late 20s early-mid 30s and going on what we have witnessed personally that team looks much what most will pick I feel.

I would perhaps replace Collins with Weatherson. I know I will probably get shot down for this but the guy was a forward and played at right back and played well including a decent amount of goals. Perhaps captain for the current team or the above team. Too far?

I think that's a classical example of how we've been fooled (well some of us).

Weatherson was only playing at No 2 because it suited JM's plans, and because he had no available full backs. I've no idea why that was, and hopefully it will be fixed soon. Derek Collins at his best, was a more than able player. I haven't heard of any 'phone calls from SPL clubs pleading with Dougie to let them sign Spoonsy so that they can play him at right back.
mortonjag 2007-05-20 16:03:11
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 19 2007, 09:14 PM) [snapback]275346[/snapback]
So what was the title of your doctoral thesis? (I presume it was from a REAL university rolleyes.gif )

Oh darling Trumpet-I wasn't going to concede the information, as I've always been slightly insecure about how people will react.

'The role of the macrophage in established religion'. Oh-and at the time a 'University' was a University. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-20 16:04:11
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 19 2007, 09:18 PM) [snapback]275347[/snapback]
biggrin.gif
Can you provide a few links?

Dug ate them.
mortonjag 2007-05-20 16:21:26
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 20 2007, 03:59 PM) [snapback]275643[/snapback]
Good for joining in this 'I've got a degree and I'm cleverer than you' discussion?

I've got a D in Geography as well. huh.gif

The 'Are you religious' discussion which evolved to the latter?

Anybody can join-the more the merrier-if you're feeling slightly agnostic, you could always try the 'chip on shoulder' one instead. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-21 05:57:22
QUOTE(TaunTon @ May 20 2007, 05:29 PM) [snapback]275707[/snapback]
Blair is a politician and a reasonably good one by any normal measurement, just as Thatcher was. The first objective of politcians is to secure and hold power for as long as they are able. Effecting real and lasting change is normally a long way down the list of priorities as neither politician or the general public are too keen on it. Blair succeeded in his main objective more than most. Insincere, smarmy, deceitful and dishonourable are some of his better qualities although his nauseating use of 'faith' ranks pretty high. Of course he was helped to a large degree by having the worst opposition since records began but as you know you can only beat what's in front of you.

Labour, Tories, Lib Dems and SNP are now largely interchangeable. Conviction politics are dead and buried while advertising and marketing marches on. Big business now has the lebensraum to conduct it's social engineering and us monkeys will lap it up and dance to whatever tune they play.

Agreed.

Wee monkeys too!
mortonjag 2007-05-21 05:59:24
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ May 20 2007, 07:20 PM) [snapback]275734[/snapback]
This is a person who lets be honest isnt that good looking and would do anything to get a bird/shag whatever
Hold on, thats a bit like me! Book me a seat to Edinburgh Mr Bus Driver

...and if my luck's in you'll get a tip too.
mortonjag 2007-05-21 06:11:19
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 20 2007, 03:53 PM) [snapback]275641[/snapback]
If that's a reference to me yer a fukin w**k !!

laugh.gif Glad you liked it Colkitto-talking of chips, I've heard bawheid isn't averse to a big poke.
mortonjag 2007-05-21 06:15:09
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 20 2007, 11:36 PM) [snapback]275772[/snapback]
Gidday Sick Mick,

I am well aware of that, mate.

Don't get me started on Papal Infallibility.

smile.gif smile.gif

Guess the 'Papa' wouldn't get many penalties if he played for Rangers.
mortonjag 2007-05-21 06:16:49
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ May 20 2007, 11:49 PM) [snapback]275774[/snapback]
You cheeky old barsteward!! I have played with my man but only once. I should rephrase to say he is the best I have heard and thats most players of note in the West of Scotland.

What did he think of your instrument?
mortonjag 2007-05-21 06:17:28
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ May 20 2007, 11:50 PM) [snapback]275775[/snapback]
Father Dougal

shaggy dog
mortonjag 2007-05-21 06:21:39
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 20 2007, 05:34 PM) [snapback]275710[/snapback]
Only due to your intelligent design of the thread.

wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-21 06:28:53
QUOTE(JonaTon @ May 20 2007, 04:23 PM) [snapback]275660[/snapback]
I agree with that. Especially the part highlighted in red.

Agreed too, but there is time for improvement in several cases IMO. So long as the wages are manageable I'd simply describe it as consolidation.

It's what happens next which will dictate our relative success next season.

St Johnstone amply showed the value of 'auld heids' in their squad, and only lost out because of Mileson's money.

IF we want it enough, we can be an SPL team in one year.
mortonjag 2007-05-21 06:35:01
QUOTE(nach0king @ May 20 2007, 05:51 PM) [snapback]275717[/snapback]
That's basically it. They've integrated a 3D modelling tool called SketchIt with Google Earth, so you can now make little models of buildings and superimpose them onto the globe for all to see.

I think it'd be cool to have Cappielow on Google Earth, not just as a satellite photo (as present) but as a scale model.

Sad, I know, but it'd be a good way to kill an evening or two tongue.gif

SketchIt works off real-world measurements, hence my wanting to know what they are, so they'll fit nicely onto the globe. I imagine it'll be quite tough to get the *exact* measurements off Google Earth, but I'll give it a go.

I have no qualification (or aptitude) in 3d modelling;
if someone else does and fancies having a go, hopefully they can find the dimensions here to work with.

....but do the odd Stripogram when I'm hard up.
mortonjag 2007-05-21 06:36:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 21 2007, 06:32 AM) [snapback]275808[/snapback]
day afternoon

knight mourning
mortonjag 2007-05-21 06:41:12
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 21 2007, 06:36 AM) [snapback]275811[/snapback]

'Newton engaged in a simulated sex act on New Year's Eve. While all the other party goers were shagging like rabbits, he dropped his pants and rocked to and fro to the music'
mortonjag 2007-05-21 06:42:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 21 2007, 06:38 AM) [snapback]275812[/snapback]
mourning sickness

wakes
mortonjag 2007-05-21 06:54:48
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 20 2007, 03:59 PM) [snapback]275643[/snapback]
Good for joining in this 'I've got a degree and I'm cleverer than you' discussion?

I've got a D in Geography as well. huh.gif

Is that a discussion of a statement 'I've got a degree and I'm more clever than you', or a description of two separate elements in a debate?

Your either have a degree or you don't.

What is your definition of cleverness? It means different things to different people. Intelligence, wisdom, knowledge, logic, craftiness, and plain 'common' sense are expressions which spring to mind, but for me, none on its own signifies 'cleverness'.

A perceptive read through the thread demonstrates pretty clearly where the intended debate on religion was sidetracked.

What happened thereafter was as inevitable as day following night.
mortonjag 2007-05-21 06:58:00
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 21 2007, 06:51 AM) [snapback]275816[/snapback]
When the Sleeper Wakes

The fish plate sleeps
mortonjag 2007-05-21 07:04:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 21 2007, 06:44 AM) [snapback]275815[/snapback]
practising the rhythm method.

..and attempting to keep time to the beautiful sound of Ave Maria on the bagpipes which drifted through the open window.
mortonjag 2007-05-21 07:06:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 21 2007, 07:03 AM) [snapback]275820[/snapback]
Garfield plate sleep

sobers bowls
mortonjag 2007-05-21 07:07:55
QUOTE(TaunTon @ May 21 2007, 07:00 AM) [snapback]275819[/snapback]
Aye jag - you and your wee pal are now the future smile.gif

wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-21 07:28:38
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 21 2007, 07:08 AM) [snapback]275824[/snapback]
a maiden over

midden cover
mortonjag 2007-05-21 07:30:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 21 2007, 07:14 AM) [snapback]275825[/snapback]
'I've got a degree and I'm clever than you'
more ?

laugh.gif Well spotted-the vultures are still asleep! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-21 07:33:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 21 2007, 07:30 AM) [snapback]275828[/snapback]
Love Street grandstand

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grand aunt loves treat
mortonjag 2007-05-21 07:35:08
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ May 21 2007, 01:07 AM) [snapback]275791[/snapback]
Class player. He nearly got us to the cup final in the semi replay against Hearts that we lost 3-2

I seem to have a mental block for him-was he a classy inside left with kind of sandy curly hair who used to run at defences, and packed a good shot?
mortonjag 2007-05-21 07:50:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 21 2007, 05:55 AM) [snapback]275799[/snapback]
THE world of sport yesterday dismissed First Minister Alex Salmond's plans for a separate Scottish team in the Olympic games.

In what many will see as a move designed to gain support for independence, Mr Salmond said he wants to see Scottish athletes compete under the Saltire rather than the Union Flag.

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=785472007

The former Olympic champion Allan Wells said the plan could deprive some athletes of the support they receive as part of team GB.
huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif
IMHO, Scotland should field her own teams in as many sports as possible.

If other small nations, such as Croatia and New Zealand can afford to do so, surely Scotland can as well.

smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

And it's a universally accepted form of 'Nationalism' diametrically opposed to Colkittoesque paranoia.
mortonjag 2007-05-21 07:51:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 21 2007, 07:47 AM) [snapback]275832[/snapback]
granny's sister going doon the watter

Granny's watter going doon the cistern?
mortonjag 2007-05-21 08:01:12
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 21 2007, 07:58 AM) [snapback]275837[/snapback]
going doon the cistern?

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more likely to go doon the water closet

smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

'does she get a funny feeling when she's hingin' frae the ceiling' from 'Does yer Maw drink Gin?'

Return to word associations

faucet
mortonjag 2007-05-21 08:04:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 21 2007, 07:52 AM) [snapback]275835[/snapback]
Colkittoesque paranoia.

? ? ? ?

Is that an Olympic sport yet ?

huh.gif

If tossing the caber ever does, Colkitto may have a good chance of standing on the podium.
mortonjag 2007-05-21 08:18:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 21 2007, 08:06 AM) [snapback]275840[/snapback]
Farrah Fawcett

major disaster
mortonjag 2007-05-21 08:36:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 21 2007, 08:33 AM) [snapback]275844[/snapback]
Disaster Records

Daily records
mortonjag 2007-05-21 08:41:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 21 2007, 08:38 AM) [snapback]275847[/snapback]
Daily Rubbish

Nightly buffish
mortonjag 2007-05-21 08:42:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 21 2007, 08:10 AM) [snapback]275841[/snapback]
In that case Colkitto must be a big lad.

I'm sure he'd rise to the occasion.
mortonjag 2007-05-21 08:48:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 21 2007, 12:00 AM) [snapback]275777[/snapback]
When did the Guardian start publishing on a Sunday ? And when did it change its name to the Observer? blink.gif
Maybe I'm splitting hairs though. It's the same old same old for the benefit of the Islington chatterers in both of these blatts.

Splitting atoms for the benefit of the economy and the environment-not just Islington in Inglind
mortonjag 2007-05-21 08:59:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 21 2007, 08:55 AM) [snapback]275853[/snapback]
Frequently foolish

In frequently-foolish?
mortonjag 2007-05-21 09:09:12
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 21 2007, 09:01 AM) [snapback]275855[/snapback]
Often orphan

Hauf 'n' morphine wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-21 09:11:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 21 2007, 08:50 AM) [snapback]275851[/snapback]

..all because they decided to change the stripes to hoops next season.
mortonjag 2007-05-21 09:23:19
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 21 2007, 09:17 AM) [snapback]275862[/snapback]
Grauniad/ Obverser.

The Islington chattering classes ? Obviously the London variant of the Cathcart chatterers or the Newlands Nattering classes. wink.gif

..Whitecraigs whisperers, Muirend murmurers, Busby blabberers, Giffnock grumblers, and Toryglen turncoats.
mortonjag 2007-05-21 09:27:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 21 2007, 09:24 AM) [snapback]275867[/snapback]
Gidday Teacher Tom,

better a slug than a skunk.

laugh.gif

I'd rather be a spammer than a snail.
mortonjag 2007-05-21 09:33:06
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 21 2007, 09:25 AM) [snapback]275868[/snapback]
Morton Jag, a cross between
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDBoth classics of their genre.
mortonjag 2007-05-21 09:36:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 21 2007, 09:16 AM) [snapback]275861[/snapback]
C17H19NO3

N2O wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-21 09:38:02
QUOTE(ThornTON @ May 21 2007, 09:32 AM) [snapback]275871[/snapback]
It's all fire mate, we like it toasty warm wink.gif

Big Ton Barbie with skewered skunk washed down with Bucky.
mortonjag 2007-05-21 09:41:37
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 21 2007, 09:39 AM) [snapback]275875[/snapback]
Sounds good mate, just I pity my lift is going up and not down. wink.gif

unsure.gif Got a ticket already?
mortonjag 2007-05-21 09:52:49 My old pishley mate-also to Alexander Pope, my all time favourite poet (RIP), and to our own FLOYDPINK.
mortonjag 2007-05-21 10:00:01
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 21 2007, 09:46 AM) [snapback]275878[/snapback]
Yip Like it says

Jesus said, "Whoever believes in me shall not perish, but have everlasting life"

(from) John Chapter 3 verse 16 followed by-
For God sent not his son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through him might be saved.
mortonjag 2007-05-21 10:02:09
QUOTE(RingPiece @ May 21 2007, 10:00 AM) [snapback]275885[/snapback]
Aye, whatever but its the truth.

next question 'RingPiece'-Which is your favourite fitba' team?
mortonjag 2007-05-21 10:22:58
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 21 2007, 10:16 AM) [snapback]275891[/snapback]
Better just going the whole hog

That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

The words of John the loving disciple.
mortonjag 2007-05-21 10:40:47
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 21 2007, 10:35 AM) [snapback]275895[/snapback]
Cutty Sark

Useless bams.
This is our heritage, what the feck is it doing down there in the first place, should be on the Clyde anyway.

It's hard to believe there was no watchman on site-if there was it seems to have happened far too quickly to be a simple accident.

At least it's just half Cutty Sark!
mortonjag 2007-05-21 10:54:15 He's been greetin' his face off about Scotland's oil for longer than I care to remember, but Nuclear Power-naw it widnae get votes wid it Bawheid?

Why doesn't the eejit steal a march on our Sassenach friends by accepting the inevitable. We can become a major exporter of electricity if we get it right at the right time.
mortonjag 2007-05-21 11:08:00
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ May 20 2007, 11:09 AM) [snapback]275537[/snapback]
totally agree, should never have happened in the first place. if it was a family from a council estate they'd probably end up in court with the threat of losing their children

I read that her father is now returning to Britain, to 'coordinate' efforts to find her. What exactly is that supposed to mean, and is it not a complete insult to those who are trained to do those things?

Call his return a 'guilt trip' if you will. It certainly doesn't seem to have crossed his mind that all the publicity, AND all the cash have potentially unwanted effects.
mortonjag 2007-05-21 12:57:28
QUOTE(morethanagame @ May 21 2007, 11:33 AM) [snapback]275908[/snapback]
And if we get it wrong, future generations pay the price.
Nuclear !
Try as I have, I just can't believe that humans are smart enough to handle this monster.

I don't want to get involved in a pointless argument. We've been handling it reasonably well for 50 years IMO, and we have to be responsible about using 'unrenewable' energy.
mortonjag 2007-05-21 19:17:33
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 21 2007, 02:43 PM) [snapback]275941[/snapback]
C3PO

D4QP
mortonjag 2007-05-21 19:29:50
QUOTE(morethanagame @ May 21 2007, 02:34 PM) [snapback]275937[/snapback]
Then why go to the trouble of starting a thread?

Because I enjoy intelligent and meaningful discussion. blink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-21 19:34:07
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 21 2007, 07:22 PM) [snapback]276029[/snapback]
eh? blink.gif

fi
mortonjag 2007-05-21 19:42:02 Not like the respectable fox to start a controversial thread.

Current nursing salary is £17K-32K, and that's from the basic starting salary after training, to the very top of the tree on retirement.

Who will be first to state openly that they are over (or under) paid?
mortonjag 2007-05-21 19:54:05
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 21 2007, 05:46 PM) [snapback]276013[/snapback]
Me? Chomping on about it for 7 years? Me? Nope, I think you have me mixed up with someone else.

But, to amuse you, yes, we WILL see you next year---we'll either go up, or you'll go down, where you belone. You monkeyspanks don't belong in the SPL, and I hope you get your a$$es waxed every game.

My two favorite teams in football---Morton, and ANYONE playing you w@nkers.

Always expect the unexpected Trick-a reliable source has suggested that the 'High Heid Yins' at Skunk HQ might have been caught 'sweetening' the local cooncil who might have decided that 'Every little helps'. wink.gif

mortonjag 2007-05-21 19:58:14
QUOTE(standman @ May 21 2007, 06:21 PM) [snapback]276020[/snapback]
Kenny McLean was one of our strangest ever signings.

I think it was Cowboy who brought him to the club but he hardly ever played.

And then his contract was extended and again he didn't even feature on the bench all that often.

I bet after his recent health worries he will be disappointed but will have a perspective that other released players won't be able to call upon.

As fr Mick Fulton, he had a good reputation as being a skillful player but having only seen a couple of reserve games in the last year I don't know what prevented him forcing his way into the team.

Or maybe I do.... we were pretty lucky in terms of injuries and suspensions so perhaps chances were always going to be limited.

Good luck to both the guys.

Fitba's a funny game. Kenny was finishing his training and unable to give a full committment-then bad luck struck. I rated him as a promising kid. It's not over yet IMO.
mortonjag 2007-05-21 20:05:12
QUOTE(Jackie @ May 21 2007, 07:47 PM) [snapback]276035[/snapback]
You are not the only one Puggs. Although it's a terrible thing to say and I hope I'm completly wrong I'm slowing coming round to what you've said above. It's not all that far fetched. The parents have been very, very mysterious throughout this.

It's not a terrible thing to say at all-not in an objective way. Those things happen, and anything is possible.

I think that it's highly improbable-I see it more as a massive guilt trip by a couple of grief stricken parents whose reason has been clouded to such a degree that they think they know better than those whose job it is to investigate the disappearance.
mortonjag 2007-05-21 20:09:19
QUOTE(TONTROOPER @ May 21 2007, 07:56 PM) [snapback]276038[/snapback]
a dangerous con loose in greenock fur fuksake big news .next you will be telling us the pope is a cathlic. bears poow in the woods. and the whole of pishly`s scaerd of soap.

...more religious controversy-aye, yer right about Pishley, but the Bears may resent your description of their defaecatory habits.
mortonjag 2007-05-21 20:10:24
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 21 2007, 07:36 PM) [snapback]276032[/snapback]
Somebody thought this was band association and wasn't paying attention! tongue.gif tongue.gif

Atten SHUN
mortonjag 2007-05-21 20:14:08
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ May 21 2007, 07:10 PM) [snapback]276026[/snapback]
Any advice is welcome m8 , Ive got my friends flat till mid june so that will allow me to start work and to get to flats for viewing a hell of a lot easier .. A lot of flats seem to be available from june 1st as well so allows me to wait till then to move

Are you looking for furnished or not?

Unfurnished's cheaper, and it costs very little to make them comfy. Don't be put off JUST by the popular reputation of an area. Ask around. In Glasgow almost every 'decent' area's within a mile of a 'slum'.
mortonjag 2007-05-21 20:15:20
QUOTE(standman @ May 21 2007, 08:13 PM) [snapback]276044[/snapback]
I could lower the tone of this thread at this point but I'll let someone else do it! laugh.gif

ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-21 20:16:10
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 21 2007, 08:15 PM) [snapback]276046[/snapback]
wee nip

on our bikes
mortonjag 2007-05-21 20:20:29 I've been pondering-what would our younger fans think of a full blooded Johnny Boyd slide tackle on a Scapa mud bath, where he won the ball and knackered the winger.

Fair play, or instant red?
mortonjag 2007-05-21 20:23:17
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 21 2007, 08:17 PM) [snapback]276050[/snapback]
on your bike

Isabel
mortonjag 2007-05-21 20:24:48
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 21 2007, 08:16 PM) [snapback]276049[/snapback]
Is that the stuff that police spray in unruly peoples eyes? It temporary blinds them i think.

Ask standman.
mortonjag 2007-05-21 20:26:17
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 21 2007, 08:24 PM) [snapback]276054[/snapback]
necessary on a bike?

cows have horns
mortonjag 2007-05-21 20:27:28
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 21 2007, 08:26 PM) [snapback]276057[/snapback]
Does he get maced on a regular basis? ohmy.gif

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-21 20:35:55
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 21 2007, 08:32 PM) [snapback]276060[/snapback]
Errrm, as a bunch of moral and upstanding citizens duty bound to report criminal offences as and when we know they have happened, shouldn't someone be calling Dibble even as we speak to report Lush's cache of WMD ????

Saddam got hung for less ....... tongue.gif

TonInDublin

Standman may suggest it's only for personal use!
mortonjag 2007-05-21 20:42:34
QUOTE(C B @ May 21 2007, 08:35 PM) [snapback]276062[/snapback]
Fair play laugh.gif
This weekend i watched Joe Jordan playing for Manchester United against Notts Forrest on an ESPN Classic FA cup game from 1981. Notts F. player kicked him in the leg as he challenged for the ball, both players ended up on the ground and big Joe decided to two foot the offending player in the face !!!!!!!

John Motson: "Oh dear, he may get a booking for that"

And sure enough.......straight yellow !!!!!!! biggrin.gif

Footballers today don't know theyre born !

Correct-and can you imagine the impossibility of big Sanny in a 'legitimate' shoulder charge with a 5'9" defender?
mortonjag 2007-05-21 20:44:19
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ May 21 2007, 08:42 PM) [snapback]276066[/snapback]
Large and shiny!

Rigid or size variable?
mortonjag 2007-05-22 05:59:51
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ May 21 2007, 11:12 PM) [snapback]276106[/snapback]
And what is the salary range for a GP?

From the experiences I have had in hospital I admit I am biased but I think nurses are generally underpaid and undervalued!

ScotinBelgie

More! rolleyes.gif

I thought HT was suggesting that the salary offered was high.

I WAS getting behind the nurses, and agree that they are generally undervalued and frequently underpaid.

As in every occupation there are the good, the bad, the conscientious, and the skivers. I could mention several G.P.s I've known whom I'd gladly have seen struck off.

The only nurses I don't respect are the 'frustrated doctors', and fortunately there are not too many around those days.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 06:07:25
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ May 21 2007, 09:20 PM) [snapback]276079[/snapback]
Scotland actually has the natural resources to provide all the power we need from natural , renewable resources. We have, for example, a substantial number of sites suitable for tidal barrages and, unlike the wind, tides can be relied upon to happen twice a day, every day. Norway, a country the size of Scotland relies almost totally on Hydro power. We have just as many suitable sites.

The problem is that these sources have a high initial cost and our short termist political outlook means that politicians would rather spend our cash on ridiculous parliament buildings and the like.

laugh.gif and you a seasoned bandster-try eating more vegetables.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 06:14:41 Why is it so difficult for some people to see things in perspective?

Stop reading the propaganda and hype from those with vested interests.

As Mr Bam states, we need to take a long hard look at ouselves-SELFISH in the extreme.

If we suddenly learned tomorrow that all humans would live to be 200 years old, there would be one HELLUVALOTTA backtracking and red faces.

And I'd go back to work! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-22 06:19:36
QUOTE(shedhead @ May 22 2007, 02:58 AM) [snapback]276159[/snapback]
Why do I think i'm Irish? I was just pointing out that it could be considered offensive. Been to plenty of Scotland games , never Ireland. Your ex probably wouldn't have been offended . Lets face it she must have been a bit of a moron to have been going out with you.

Between 500,000 and 1,500,00 Irish people died in that famine , my ancestors. Take it you thought it was funny when the huns took totties to CP, mocking the dead of a country.

You Donga are the tadger.

They never did, well bless my soul. As a genuine Ton supporter I'd say that was just about their level, but to be offended by that sort of behaviour? sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-22 06:21:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 22 2007, 03:57 AM) [snapback]276161[/snapback]
sorry

Seattle

Chairtle
mortonjag 2007-05-22 06:26:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 22 2007, 04:08 AM) [snapback]276162[/snapback]
don't break a hip ? ?

How can one break a hip practicising lyengar yoga ?

Are there any asanas I should avoid ?

ardha chandrasana

parivrtta trikonasana

urdhva mukha svanasana

upavistha konasana

eka pada sarvangasana

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Careful NewTon-sensitive little uns on here-what is it Eck's been doing to his Celtic butler? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-22 06:28:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 22 2007, 06:25 AM) [snapback]276170[/snapback]
As way of another example it has been claimed that wind farms kill birds.

There was a case in Victoria where a wind farm application was rejected because it endangered the [b]Orange-bellied Parrot.[/b]
In case you think I am having a lend of you ...

http://www.environment.gov.au/minister/env...mr05apr206.html
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Why does the name Paisley spring to mind?
mortonjag 2007-05-22 06:29:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 22 2007, 06:06 AM) [snapback]276164[/snapback]
Who will be first to state openly that they are over (or under) paid?
Who will be first to state openly that they are over (or under) sexed?

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Gibby
mortonjag 2007-05-22 06:35:51
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 22 2007, 06:27 AM) [snapback]276172[/snapback]
That's why a lot of nurses from Scotland move to the States. Granted, the salaries aren't too much higher int he States, but every bit helps, I guess (we also have a nursing shortage). There were two other nurses from Scotland that worked int he same place as my mom. In fact, her doctor used to work at IRH for the longest time, and he was my grandparents' doctor before he moved to the States.

Fair point Trick, and while we're on Robert's topic the differential in G.P. salaries between here and the States is much larger. I guess this may now drift into a 'private medicine is evil' harangue from some quarters, but the NHS, albeit less now than once, pays the same salaries irrespective of merit, and is a past master of 'burying its mistakes'.

In the States financial success generally relates to ability, with the wee caveat-'Send your kid to medical school and keep a lawyer in a job'.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 06:38:23
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 22 2007, 06:30 AM) [snapback]276175[/snapback]
-sensitive little uns on here

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Gidday mortonjag,

perhaps they would benefit from a few tackles by a reincarnated Johnny Boyd ??

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You can't help it-can you? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-22 06:40:12
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 22 2007, 06:36 AM) [snapback]276177[/snapback]
2/3 of the population are over (or under) sexed.

Just like the 3 bears.

Was baby bear not pre pubertal?
mortonjag 2007-05-22 06:45:21
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 21 2007, 10:33 PM) [snapback]276095[/snapback]
I was young when I saw Boyd play. He was more a hatchet man, less a footballer. Most of his tackles were a week late as I recall. He was shown up, like many others in the Scottish game, when Johansen arrived. Boyd was effective enough for his time I suppose, mainly because referees in those days took a more relaxed view of the game. I say relaxed, they were so unfit they could never keep up with play. Remember Tiny Wharton ? Did you ever see him run ? biggrin.gif

That's unfair IMO.

Agreed Johnny wasn't a 'footballer' as we now think of 'wing backs', but in those days wingers were a very big part of the game, and if you could cancel out a good winger, you were worth your place. Furthermore Boyd's timing was actually quite good, though he frequently and legally took man and ball.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 06:50:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 22 2007, 06:42 AM) [snapback]276180[/snapback]
would you believe ... like the 3 Musketeers ?

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when do bears reach puberty ?

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When Mummy Bear stops making porridge, and they have to go and get their nuts.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 07:09:23
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 22 2007, 06:53 AM) [snapback]276185[/snapback]
Is there a colony of Orange-bellied Parrots in Paisley ??

That's great news.

The wind farm may get approval after all.

And my cousin has lots of budgies in Millport and thankfully they haven't been decimated by the wind farm on the other side.

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There's a pandemic of yellow bellied vultures.

I was referring to the Right Honorable, Reverend, Doctor. laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-22 07:11:33
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 22 2007, 07:05 AM) [snapback]276188[/snapback]
too subtle for me, mortonjag.

Why did you highlight Johhny ?

Guess you emigrated too young me lad.

Popular nickname here for a (whisper) condom.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 07:12:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 22 2007, 07:09 AM) [snapback]276189[/snapback]
Sport seat tle

let sports eat
mortonjag 2007-05-22 07:17:31
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 22 2007, 07:13 AM) [snapback]276193[/snapback]
Whose mother could not spell Iain.

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Swell. laugh.gif

A sweet little maiden from Thrace
no longer could buckle her stays.
Her Mother said, 'Nelly there's more in that belly
than ever got in through your face'.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 07:26:57
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 22 2007, 07:18 AM) [snapback]276195[/snapback]
good sports or bad sports

Princes Pier or Colkitto
mortonjag 2007-05-22 07:36:11 See General Nonsense!
mortonjag 2007-05-22 07:38:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 22 2007, 07:28 AM) [snapback]276197[/snapback]
Port Botany or Robert the Bruce

Screws or spiders
mortonjag 2007-05-22 07:40:33
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 22 2007, 07:34 AM) [snapback]276198[/snapback]
mortonjag, I saw more condoms in my Greenock days than most lads.

Please don't ask me why.

But, what do they have to do with Johnny Boyd's tackling prowess ?

A pun on wedding tackle ??
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blink.gif -sensitive little ones-you know-walls have ears and tatties have eyes an 'at'.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 07:42:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 22 2007, 07:41 AM) [snapback]276202[/snapback]
I misread the last line of your limerick.

If I was a Roman Catholic, I would need to go to confession.

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Knotty
mortonjag 2007-05-22 07:45:10 Happy birthday.

TaunTon-the glass is half full now! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-22 07:46:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 22 2007, 07:44 AM) [snapback]276204[/snapback]
drivers or men

clubs or spades
mortonjag 2007-05-22 07:53:22
QUOTE(TaunTon @ May 22 2007, 07:50 AM) [snapback]276208[/snapback]
If only that were true mj laugh.gif I've been scrapping the barrel for years now!

According to NewTon you are now a senior citizen-welcome to the club!
mortonjag 2007-05-22 07:55:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 22 2007, 07:48 AM) [snapback]276207[/snapback]
death or sterilisation

DEATH

please
mortonjag 2007-05-22 07:59:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 22 2007, 07:52 AM) [snapback]276209[/snapback]
See Major Fiasco!

See Private Parts
mortonjag 2007-05-22 08:06:58
QUOTE(WillowMan @ May 21 2007, 08:20 PM) [snapback]276051[/snapback]
OK so what exactly is this fund being used for ??

To pay for their digs during their extended stay ??
Sorry but they'll both be on healthy salaries so I'm sure they could quite easily set-up an overdraught to cover the extra £500 a week or so it'll cost them in rent.

To pay for their lawyers ??
Aye well they can get tae wi' that one as I'm sure the Embassy will be offering them plenty of advice without having to bring their own in !!!

To pay for other kids that are missing, well great, but I didn't see them bothering to launch a fund for those folks families when Maddie was quite happily playing at home mad.gif
The fund stands at £115,856.92
Which DOESN'T include funds taken over the counters of NatWest & RBS, along with the donations made by cheque, as these have not yet hit the account !!!

FFS how much money do they need !!!!

Now it's 'Ribbons of hope, and prayer cards for 38 year old Glasgow born hospital consultant Gerry McCann', according to today's Herald.

I wonder how many four year olds were killed on our roads yesterday-it's not in the Herald.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 08:08:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 22 2007, 08:07 AM) [snapback]276217[/snapback]
you planning on adding to the population ?

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Just an inveterate coward! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-22 08:17:12
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 22 2007, 08:03 AM) [snapback]276215[/snapback]
See Sergeant Benjamin C Morton

Captain Greacen
mortonjag 2007-05-22 08:18:30
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 22 2007, 08:10 AM) [snapback]276220[/snapback]
just a wee nick.

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on a wee pr*ck-I know that-still as yellow bellied as them thar darn Pishley vulchers.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 08:38:59
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 22 2007, 08:24 AM) [snapback]276223[/snapback]
From the looks of what that stupid c*** is doing in the picture, you could have a bad tumble and shatter the auld hip ohmy.gif

How'd you not come back to Scotland? They let you lot ride on the bus for free now - could take wee day trip to largs whenever you want! Feed the pidgeons and that - sounds nice, eh?

hmm-Micky boy-it's just as well the board's 'old farts' ain't as sensitive as some.

Ageism's illegal, even if we are allowed 'free bus rides' to Costa Geriatrica to feed the pigeons.

Mind you decrepit old c*nts get on my tits too.

mortonjag 2007-05-22 08:42:52 'Mon the reds.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 08:55:35
QUOTE(mickaspic @ May 21 2007, 10:59 AM) [snapback]275899[/snapback]
I think on this one MortonJag is correct. The pitch must have weather protection - not necesserally undersoil heating. Generallly Cappielow has great drainage but I think our main problem is the frost that is left at the stand side due to the shadow from the stand. Thus undersoil heating would maybe be our best option.

As for ground upgrades, I think the stand has 2,300 seats? Therefore upgrading the shed to take us to the 6,000 seats would be the best option in my opinion. Leave behind the goals as they are initially with an option to upgrade them if and when its required. Could even put a small tempory stand in the Sinclair St end for bigger matches. I think there might be structural problems with the shed though which Alibi may have mentioned earlier. Something to do with the slope? Is the club having an AGM over the summer as I think this is the time to ask the club these types of questions.

Mick

Well Alibi seems to have clarified this, yet there were definitely posts in the recent past claiming otherwise, which SEEMED to be authoritative!
mortonjag 2007-05-22 08:57:43
QUOTE(lush @ May 22 2007, 08:55 AM) [snapback]276232[/snapback]
Do you seriously think i would need mace? A swift kick in the bollocks has always worked for me. rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2007-05-22 09:02:03 I think we have to be very careful here. In strict terms we could be infringing personal freedom of choice.

We will have to make it clear that this is not an objection to that freedom, but a unified stance against what is often construed as bigotry.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 09:03:54
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 22 2007, 08:46 AM) [snapback]276227[/snapback]
and blacks

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mortonjag 2007-05-22 09:16:28
QUOTE(TaunTon @ May 22 2007, 07:50 AM) [snapback]276208[/snapback]
If only that were true mj laugh.gif I've been scrapping the barrel for years now!

I bet Lisa Murkowsky, US Senator for Alaska doesn't know she's the same age as a celebrated Greenock Morton ex pat!
mortonjag 2007-05-22 09:18:43
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 22 2007, 09:17 AM) [snapback]276242[/snapback]
Haha, I actually don't mind the old people that much - it's just that the bus is always full of them, and after a day's work that somehow annoys me.

It would be the same if the bus was always full of school weans or uni students: but the Glasgow - Largs bus is always crawling with the pensioners.

Watch yer mooth.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 09:26:41
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 22 2007, 09:18 AM) [snapback]276244[/snapback]
I desperately want this wee girl to be found safe and well. And all the other children who are in a similar predicament, but haven't received the same publicity. She's about the same age as my youngest daughter, and my wife gets extremely upset just thinking about Madeleine, which she does a lot of the time.

The fund set up could do some good, but I do think it's an example of what I call "Princess Diana Syndrome" - an almost compulsory requirement to show public grief. It's a fairly recent phenomenon, the piles of flowers outside Buckingham Palace, people weeping and wailing etc etc, when hardly any of them had ever actually met the woman. Her elevation to a sort of deity, Tony Blair's oily tribute. And a fund was set up, the money from which seems to have caused more trouble than it solved - did much of it not go to lawyers arguing about how to spend it?

I haven't donated anything to the Madeleine fund yet, but if I thought that it would be used for a positive purpose, to help and protect children, I would immediately. I fear however that it's mainly a conscience salver. And why do the McCann's need lawyers to "advise" them? Would these lawyers actually charge a fee for such work? I know when I and other were involved in a professional capacity after the Lockerbie disaster, there was no question of anyone submitting fee invoices even when specifically asked to do so by the authorities. Sometimes there are more important things than money.

Surely the efforts of everyone should be to force the police, in all countries, to make a bit more effort to find this poor wee girl? I have not been at all impressed by the Portugues police's apparent incompetence - looks as if they've concentrated on one man and ignored all other avenues.

I hope Madeleine has been taken by someone who couldn't have children of their own. That way, there is a good chance she's being looked after. Any other option doesn't bear thinking about, but if this does turn out to be a murder investigation, the scum involved should be executed, no question about it.

Spot on IMO.

What completely mystifies me is the purpose of the fund raising, and the high profile publicity, (which often can hamper investigations).

We only have the British Media 'spin' on the competence or otherwise of the investigating authorities.

There's little doubt in my mind that 'Guilt Trip' is an appropriate expression, yet they apparently only did what, admit it or not, thousands of holidaymakers do every year.

Apparently may be the operative word.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 09:30:16
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 22 2007, 09:23 AM) [snapback]276246[/snapback]
Sorry, I know my word choice is a bit off sometimes. Let me try again;

The Glasgow - Largs bus is usually always infested with pensioners.

Better?

...'crawling with infested pensioners', or 'infested by crawling pensioners' either way you are a bad boy.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 09:35:07
QUOTE(InverAlly @ May 22 2007, 09:22 AM) [snapback]276245[/snapback]
Are our current Board of Directors ignorant to the requirements of the legislative bodies? I think not.

Are messageboard contributors the only ones 'qualified' to resolve such issues? I think not.

Does the Board respect the views of posters on this forum? I think not, You'll be waiting a while Alibi.

While it's great to have views and opinions (some of them qualified), I think it's very narrow minded to suggest that the Mr Rae et al have not made moves to have the ground prepared for whatever eventuality.

Would it be prudent to spend tens of thousands seating the Cowshed if we were to be relegated next season? I think Not!

It would be foolish for the Board to announce major stadia alterations on the basis of just having won the 2nd division, not exactly ready to take on the world are we?

At last a board member outs himself!
mortonjag 2007-05-22 09:56:56
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ May 21 2007, 04:40 PM) [snapback]275991[/snapback]
I know they get shafted with regards pay but...

http://www.jobs.scot.nhs.uk/version2/vacan...spx?vacNo=66863

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peccavi-mea culpa-that was indeed a giraffe's baws for me!
mortonjag 2007-05-22 10:02:23
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ May 22 2007, 09:51 AM) [snapback]276263[/snapback]
never going to happen. dougie won't knock back a few bob because someone is wearing an OF top

It's long past time Dougie realised that the paying fans don't hang on his every word in the programme notes, and started WANTING to know what they think.

If we could spin the idea in such a way that our hallowed Chairman sees himself as the champion of anti-sectarianism, I'm sure he'd go along with it.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 10:04:50
QUOTE(InverAlly @ May 22 2007, 09:46 AM) [snapback]276256[/snapback]
Ha! No, a bored messageboard member perhaps! rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2007-05-22 10:10:04
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 22 2007, 09:52 AM) [snapback]276264[/snapback]
Another pedantic w**k on this site. Ok are you still on this site spouting your inane drivel??

Point of correction Weegie-one does not 'spout' drivel, one drivels it-unless of course one has the misfortune to be a flea infested starving and malodorous skunk in which case 'drowning in your drivel' might be more apt.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 10:13:49
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 22 2007, 09:47 AM) [snapback]276257[/snapback]
Ahh, of course, but I never actually saw him play you see.

More's the pity BH, though he didn't actually 'play'.

Every now and again he decided to participate-that was enough!

A true legend at Scapa.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 10:16:52
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 22 2007, 10:08 AM) [snapback]276280[/snapback]
Why it should even have to be banned still baffles me.

Surely it's common sense that if you go to see Morton, you shouldn't wear another team's strip.

The last Morton game I was at was the Killie one [I know, ages ago, shut up], obviously a game like this got a larger turnout than usual [people that wouldn't usually go to games...], so maybe that explains the fact that I actually noticed quite a few people wearing Old Firm tops.

It seems to be mostly wee neds, though. In the region of eight to twelve. Maybe it's something you grow out of?

Dream on.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 10:20:43
QUOTE(shedhead @ May 22 2007, 10:07 AM) [snapback]276279[/snapback]
Yeah they did. The reason I brought it up was more to do with the fact that I didn't see anything wrong with the term Tims. I thought that a reference to a famine was more offensive as it was a travesty that seen many people loss their lifes. The fact that many Celtic fans are happy with the term just shows how ignorant most Celtic fans are. Hence why they are rightly reffered to as plastic paddy's.

All i was stating was that if it's ok to mock an overtly Irish team with jokes about the death of Irish people , is it ok to mock a team with Jewish links about the travesty that was the holocaust.
Q What's the best thing about an Ethiopian blow-job?

A You know she'll swallow

Donga. Would it bother you if a 3rd generation Ethiopian took offence to this joke.

The holocaust was an act of human infamy. The tattie famine was an act of Almighty God. That's the fundamental difference.

I do take your point though.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 10:23:03
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 22 2007, 10:05 AM) [snapback]276277[/snapback]
When I look at this from a different angle, and when you see that a pound note costs us about $2.04 now, then the salaries are somewhat close to the States.

$2.04 for a Pound!?!?!?!?!?! I remember when it was $1.50, and that wasn't too long ago. blink.gif
....or to who you know..... wink.gif

Nepotism's universal Trick-sick Mick'll explain!
mortonjag 2007-05-22 10:24:58
QUOTE(shedhead @ May 22 2007, 10:21 AM) [snapback]276290[/snapback]
definitely should be banned. If a wee tim/hun wants to see the game then let them wear another top, surely they got more than fitba tops to wear. It's disrespectful.

You'd imagine so, but priorities often get confused with necessities.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 10:29:31
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 22 2007, 10:16 AM) [snapback]276287[/snapback]
Stand corrected MJ wink.gif

Just saw our Pishley friend sneaking out of 'Pitcher's' with a nose clip and pair of armbands.

Survival kit in both respects.

mortonjag 2007-05-22 10:31:11
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 22 2007, 10:29 AM) [snapback]276297[/snapback]
I don't want to get into this argument - but to an extent the Potato Famine was forced starvation.

Rubbish-diets were not in yet.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 10:48:15
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 22 2007, 10:03 AM) [snapback]276275[/snapback]
Agreed ! I was born and raised in Branchton in the back and front doors in Forfar Road. At that time, despite it's reputation, Branchton was a brilliant community to live in and grow up in. What I learned about how I carry myself in life I learned from my parents, not from my address. The fact that I was in a community which was safe and looked out for each other was a bonus (and yes, I know it's subsequently gone to the dogs so spare me).

As MortonJag said, some of the worst types are those with an abundance of money and a shortage of morals, or as my old mother used to say "There's some people that money doesn't suit".

Couldn't have put it better myself. In all of my dealings with people in life, I've always worked to ensure respect, friendship and relationships are based on action, not position.

TonInDublin

edited to add : My dad was also very insightful. He told me the three coldest things in the world were a man's knees, a woman's arse and a dog's nose. Unerringly accurate. You see, these things set you up for life. He also told me that life wasn't a rehearsal, there's no pockets on a shroud, that manners cost you nothing, that soap and water cost you nothing and that it was nice to be important but far more important to be nice - has worked fairly well for me so far.

Ignatius Loyola was not all wrong.

In my professional experience I've visited a complete cross section of Glasgow's people at times when they needed my help. You'd have imagined that I'd have been treated with a wee bit of respect, if only to ensure a favourable consultation.

I've been abused (only verbally) on many occasions, but always by people who were either mentally ill, drunk, or 'spaced out'.

The only people who ever 'got under my skin' were those who clearly thought they were better than me', and took a 'come hither my man' approach.

Inevitably their only claim to fame was money, and their overriding fault was lack of respect for anybody with less than them.

I visited one such family in 'posh' Whitecraigs. The husband disdainfully led me through the huge ornate hallway, and upstairs to his doting wife's bedside. He hovered suspiciously as I ascertained that she was not unduly ill. As I wrote the prescription, I became aware of a disgusting odour, though I couldn't pinpoint the source.

He led me back downstairs and across the long white shag pile hall carpet, firing questions like machine gun bullets. The smell persisted. As I stepped into the car, my driver screwed up his face. 'Ernie he said, clean that dog turd off your shoe'.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 12:32:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 22 2007, 12:27 PM) [snapback]276361[/snapback]
do you actually have Alzheimer's?

No, Sick Mick, I simply have exceptional powers of translation.

And some advice for your good self - invest in some education, mate.

It will last you a life time.

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And I see you haven't invested in a dictionary yet.

You presumably haven't a clue what 'Alzheimer's' is Micky boy.

It's a form of dementia which sadly strikes often at a relatively early age.Indeed you may well be the youngest case I've ever encountered.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 12:42:25
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ May 22 2007, 10:49 AM) [snapback]276320[/snapback]
dont get me wrong...i never like to see OF tops - in or out of Cappielow, and i agree that if people are coming to the game they should at least try to wear something appropriate

BUT

each and every person you see at the game wearing an OF top has paid in, bringing money to the club. To be honest i dont think we are in a position to turn people away for wearing the wrong coloured top.

in addition to this, i can imagine the "OLD FIRM TOPS BANNED FROM CAPPIELOW" headline in the tele. this would probably not do us any favours with the hundreds of inverclyde based old firm supporting part timers who swell our gates every week.

so in summary, i dont think we could justify banning OF tops from the ground. the people who do wear them to games are wankers, but we should be happy to take their money. lets just leave it at that

You could be right, but 'part time' OF supporters are the ones least likely to object IMO.
I have friends and family on 'both sides of the divide', and I know that most of them would have no problem with it. Facts are facts Greacen-and wearing an OF top at a neutral venue is a statement which is rightly or wrongly perceived by many as bigotry.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 12:45:38
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 22 2007, 12:31 PM) [snapback]276365[/snapback]
Excluder

Eck's ludo
mortonjag 2007-05-22 12:47:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 22 2007, 12:37 PM) [snapback]276370[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

If you could prove that Sick Mick has dementia would he qualify for a pension ?

Before he leaves school ?

He would be awarded Dux prize.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 12:49:34
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 22 2007, 12:48 PM) [snapback]276378[/snapback]
Game

set
mortonjag 2007-05-22 15:51:51
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 22 2007, 01:12 PM) [snapback]276403[/snapback]
Is that a come on?

desperation
mortonjag 2007-05-22 15:57:11
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 22 2007, 01:14 PM) [snapback]276406[/snapback]
I always thought the management reserved the right to refuse entry, does the same laws/rules apply to pubs when it comes to [i]infringing personal freedom of choice[/i]?

I don't know. Licenced premises have to abide by strict rules-not of their making. Would OF tops be allowed in hospitality.

Morethanagame's said that GMFC told him as much in response to his e-mail.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 16:09:31
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 22 2007, 01:13 PM) [snapback]276404[/snapback]
For the last time - no!

Issac was PMing me looking for a detailed map of the area surrounding the schoolgates... ohmy.gif

Correct Micky me bhoy-but he's not a Paedo. He's apparently discovered where you and your mates indulge in your daily ritual mutual masturbation and now only has to choose the best vantage point for that one fatal shot through your over inflated wee willie.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 16:11:09
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 22 2007, 03:56 PM) [snapback]276489[/snapback]
MJ trying to hit a stauner.

impossibility
mortonjag 2007-05-22 16:12:09
QUOTE(nach0king @ May 22 2007, 03:46 PM) [snapback]276479[/snapback]
I think he looks dapper. He pulls it off extremely well.


Explains the smile.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 16:22:40
QUOTE(pgmsc @ May 22 2007, 04:02 PM) [snapback]276495[/snapback]
All of a sudden we all believe the daily record where in the article did it say that Mathers was not signing all it said was that talks had broken down

A voice crying in the wilderness methinks!

Let's hear the facts first. I agree with Chrissiboi's, and with ThornTON's points and Mathers may still be with us. Talks may have 'broken down' but can those other clubs entice him if it's just money he's after?
mortonjag 2007-05-22 16:27:19
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 22 2007, 04:22 PM) [snapback]276514[/snapback]
Give it a rest saggy baws laugh.gif

My baws have been saggy for some time.

You've conceded then? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-22 16:29:29
QUOTE(nach0king @ May 22 2007, 03:46 PM) [snapback]276479[/snapback]
I think he looks dapper. He pulls it off extremely well.

greenockmorton.net closed down for breach of confidential information.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 16:34:12
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 22 2007, 04:28 PM) [snapback]276518[/snapback]
I know about the sectarianism and the like, but I still think the whole thing is stupid. Maybe it wouldn't become a big deal if people quit making a big deal about it in the first place.
Agreed. smile.gif

Trick, it's not often you miss the point but I think you have here.

If those guys were out and out neutrals, I wouldn't give a f*ck either. What irritates me is that they come TO SUPPORT THE TON, and wear OF tops. A neutral wearing one may be a bigot or not, but he remains a neutral.

Any fan claiming to be a TON supporter and sporting an OF top is just a f*cking liar IMO.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 18:00:26
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 22 2007, 04:30 PM) [snapback]276520[/snapback]
No, not really. I mean when it comes to allegations of watching other men w**k off - there's little left to concede.

The alligator seems to have bitten a tender spot.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 18:11:22
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 22 2007, 05:22 PM) [snapback]276540[/snapback]
Unobtainable!

utopia
mortonjag 2007-05-22 18:20:33
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 22 2007, 06:09 PM) [snapback]276552[/snapback]
Mathers is the most uncomfortable and awkward keeper I have ever seen when having to run/move with the ball at his feet.

Not really contributing to the debate I agree, just saying!

It's funny you should mention that, and add the stories of a 'bad back' and his having to travel a fair distance to and from games.
Just about the time he signed for us, John Hillcoat, in his newspaper column was commenting on how good Mathers was at kicking, even suggesting he could have been an outfield player.

Let's sort one thing out-in terms of PURE AGE he's never too old those days, yet we certainly didn't see the same guy who defied us in the playoffs.

Could he have caught the Finlayson, Templeman, Stevenson, and Linn disease. If so I, for one, am extremely curious about it's aetiology.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 18:23:28
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 22 2007, 05:52 PM) [snapback]276547[/snapback]
I remember how Johnny Boy dealt with some wingers. Sent them up in the air so he did. biggrin.gif
Really?
Perhaps 'hatchet man' was too pejorative a term. Suffice to say he lacked a certain finesse biggrin.gif

...but possessed that certain laugh.gif 'je ne sais quoi'!
mortonjag 2007-05-22 18:28:38
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ May 22 2007, 12:34 PM) [snapback]276368[/snapback]
He's a decent player, undoubtedly better than most of the guys that have recently just signed one year deals with us.

I feel we've perhaps been overly generous giving new deals to guys that weren't good enough to establish themselves as 1st team squad players at 2nd Division level, so how are they going to suddenly become good enough to break into what will hopefully be a stronger 1st team squad than last season? Doesn't make sense... seems a bit of a waste of money. I'll be very interested to see if ANY of the guys given 1 year deals actually play regularly for us in the coming season.

I wouldn't be too hard on Dougie and JM until we see what transpires. They always maintained we were a 'bit thin on the ground', and as I suggested you can see this as consolidating the SQUAD, nothing and more, provided the additional three or four players fit into the proper slots.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 18:36:04
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 22 2007, 06:31 PM) [snapback]276561[/snapback]
Before the pedagogue strikes, or even worse, ben baloney comes along, the word is 'quoi', I believe.

Merci beaucoup Monsieur Edwards. Monsieur le Bam n'est pas ici en ce moment ci-grace a dieu! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-22 18:41:59
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 22 2007, 06:33 PM) [snapback]276562[/snapback]
Mmm hmm - it's a whole subculture.

Buy yourself some viagra and you can join in, I'll PM you directions to the headquarters.

No need to buy or use-I'll prescribe it for myself the minute I sense a whisper of complaint from my little organ's grateful recipient.

And that ISN'T a hypertrophic right hand as in your case. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-22 18:52:09
QUOTE(shedhead @ May 22 2007, 02:42 AM) [snapback]276158[/snapback]
Aye they're the best. Full of fun and energy. Sometimes they get a bad rep but that's just ignorance. I think there's only two breeds the KC recommends to have with kids and staffies are one of them.

I'd have a lab every time (which I think is the other breed), but only because we've always had Labs in the family-black bitches are the best with kids. Staffies are superb wee dogs. I love how they roll over to get their bellies patted or rubbed.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 19:00:57
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 22 2007, 06:56 PM) [snapback]276568[/snapback]
I just meant that when anything happens in London it seems like a national disaster and money will be found to renovate the ship to its former glory .
Would it be given national media coverage if the Glenlee went up in flames ?

..or the Main Stand at Scapa-mmm now there's a wee thought! cool.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-22 19:06:02
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 22 2007, 06:59 PM) [snapback]276569[/snapback]
The alligator seems to have bitten a tender spot. wink.gif

Try Oysters, they're meant to be good for it.

Talking to yourself again Mickey boy!

Oysters are sh*te-highly overrated ponce food, and anybody who believes in their aphrodisiac properties must be sadly desperate.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 19:22:02
QUOTE(InverAlly @ May 22 2007, 09:22 AM) [snapback]276245[/snapback]
Are our current Board of Directors ignorant to the requirements of the legislative bodies? I think not.

Are messageboard contributors the only ones 'qualified' to resolve such issues? I think not.

Does the Board respect the views of posters on this forum? I think not, You'll be waiting a while Alibi.

While it's great to have views and opinions (some of them qualified), I think it's very narrow minded to suggest that the Mr Rae et al have not made moves to have the ground prepared for whatever eventuality.

Would it be prudent to spend tens of thousands seating the Cowshed if we were to be relegated next season? I think Not!

It would be foolish for the Board to announce major stadia alterations on the basis of just having won the 2nd division, not exactly ready to take on the world are we?

The voice of knowledge and experience sounds much more like the 'benefit of inside knowledge' to me!

To precis-the board knows the rules, regards the fans as eejits, is already 'prepared for any eventuality', but in the event of us getting promotion in one season has accepted we won't be playing at Scapa.

Correct?
mortonjag 2007-05-22 20:14:31
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 22 2007, 07:47 PM) [snapback]276592[/snapback]
I hope you washed your hands before typing that ya manky wee git. rolleyes.gif

O rolleyes.gif bviously the last drip of spunk landed on the 'g' of 'biggot'!
mortonjag 2007-05-22 20:24:15
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 22 2007, 06:05 PM) [snapback]276551[/snapback]
the Edinburgh store just closed as well...company gone bust perhaps?

Pardon my higgorance, but what eggsactly is a Hawaiian shirt-I have a mind picture of a long full multi coloured floral garment, and can't for the life of me imagine Ton fans wanting to be so gaily attired.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 20:26:50
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 22 2007, 08:20 PM) [snapback]276602[/snapback]
You callin me a **** ??? mad.gif

Why cant i type p o o f ?

You just did, but you can't type po*f in order that you draw attention to the word-a kind of inverted homophobic censorial snobbery I guess.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 20:29:56
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 22 2007, 08:27 PM) [snapback]276605[/snapback]
Here's Sick Mick's wee dug Bobby Sands.

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDLooks more like a well fed Pomeranian heading for the directors box at the piggery.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 20:38:33
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ May 22 2007, 08:28 PM) [snapback]276607[/snapback]
laugh.gif your absolutely correct in your blunt description.

aint something id particularly wear just wandering the streets but i do want one for a laugh whilst on holiday. Other people i know already have some of the hawaiian gear and were going for a kind of theme.

just for the s***s and giggles ya see

yours or the onlookers'? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-22 20:41:18
QUOTE(briggsTON @ May 22 2007, 08:36 PM) [snapback]276613[/snapback]
Perhaps my memory is playing tricks but I don't remember John Boyd having a great deal of trouble with sending offs and suspensions. He was hard as many players were in the days when men were men and pansies were flowers.

Talking of memory briggsTON-I don't remember when the card system came in. Was a player not simply 'warned', and sent off for a further offence before that?
mortonjag 2007-05-22 20:48:00
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ May 22 2007, 08:33 PM) [snapback]276612[/snapback]
i too hope your next jobby is a hedgehog laugh.gif not because i dislike you in any way but more just so that you can get your name on bbc news and we can post it on here and laugh at your misfortunes

Hedgehog jobbies are 'old hat'-how about a giant porcupine by breech delivery-mind you Sick Mick's arse is probably immune to pain by now.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 20:49:52
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 22 2007, 08:46 PM) [snapback]276620[/snapback]
Nightclub (in reading) smile.gif

lance
mortonjag 2007-05-22 20:52:47
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 22 2007, 08:50 PM) [snapback]276625[/snapback]
Alot

a portion
mortonjag 2007-05-22 20:55:29
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 22 2007, 08:54 PM) [snapback]276627[/snapback]
a'chips

casino
mortonjag 2007-05-22 20:57:42
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 22 2007, 08:43 PM) [snapback]276618[/snapback]
Olympics ? pointless excuse for a sport, who gives a f*** ? dry.gif !!!

Sport ? pointless excuse for skiving at others' expense? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-22 21:00:41
QUOTE(briggsTON @ May 22 2007, 08:56 PM) [snapback]276629[/snapback]
A player would be called across and his name would be entered in the book ( booked ). Obviously for violent contact he would then be sent off, for a lesser offence he would have a second chance. I remember Kai Johansen taking ages to be booked because the ref. couldn't spell his name. Not sure exactly when cards first were used.

laugh.gif That DOES bring back memories. I also seem to recall that players didn't try to 'back chat' the refs the way they do now, and get off with it.
mortonjag 2007-05-22 21:19:23
QUOTE(WillowMan @ May 22 2007, 09:15 PM) [snapback]276633[/snapback]
I've just looked in a Mirror and that looks nothing like me blink.gif

Just for the record, I don't like Dogs as several have bitten me sad.gif

Pussies for me smile.gif

don't get complacent-pussies are extremely fickle. One day they let you stroke them quite contentedly, the next you've got blood all over your fingers. wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-22 21:23:05
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ May 22 2007, 09:16 PM) [snapback]276634[/snapback]
wink.gif ive wore more stupid looking things in my day so it doesnt matter to me

I'm all for originality and individuality thrax-if it's you, go for it, but those who dress like eejits to follow the crowd are easy prey to fashion designers.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 05:14:54
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 22 2007, 09:23 PM) [snapback]276638[/snapback]
Betting

odds
mortonjag 2007-05-23 05:17:48
QUOTE(Chuck Norris @ May 22 2007, 10:12 PM) [snapback]276651[/snapback]
Hey Jag you unAmerican piece of s***, only a real man can wear a Hawaiian shirt.

GTFC
mortonjag 2007-05-23 05:19:29 post not found
mortonjag 2007-05-23 05:31:17 I can see both points of this argument, and guess I'm as confused as the next person about the motivation.

It's blatantly obvious that they've already amassed a huge sum of money, with no evidence of any kind to suggest that it has empowered the search for their daughter.

I find it bizarre that Gerry McCann sees fit to jet it back home for 24hrs in a high profile publicity campaign, leaving his devastated wife behind-surely there was NEVER a more important time to support and comfort each other. I can only assume it was a joint decision-the crusade-whatever its real motive- has become paramount.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 05:37:21
QUOTE(Rossco @ May 22 2007, 11:09 PM) [snapback]276676[/snapback]
At the risk of coming across as heartless but the british media have been absolutely shocking in this whole case harrassing the police instead of letting them get on with it.

Measuring penis sizes with the posters with there adverts plastered at the top.

Imagine it was the other way about imagine a portugese girl went missing over here how do you think the british public would react & also how do you think the british media would react if the portugese media harrassed the same way the british media do.

I fail to see what donating a pound is going to do the police are doing everything they can are posters up everywhere have been translated to portugese, spanish, arabic covering all possibilities.

I also fail to see what posting her picture in this country is going to do hardly likely to bring the girl to the Uk.

I feel sorry for the family I really do & god forbid if it was my son but I just think the whole story has went way over the top & that is why I really cant tolerate the British media they have turned Britain into professional mourners.

Spot on-the Brits are the only Nation who are able to investigate such an event properly-EVERYBODY knows that. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-23 05:40:09
QUOTE(Chuck Norris @ May 22 2007, 11:36 PM) [snapback]276679[/snapback]
All this bulls*** makes me laugh so hard that old ladies bones shatter. There is only one true religion - me.

GTFC
Wankeys rule-OK? mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-23 05:42:20
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ May 22 2007, 11:53 PM) [snapback]276685[/snapback]
If ginger nuts was aimed at me then thank you...

...ya decrepit auld basturt tongue.gif

It was, but I wasn't privy to that information! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-23 05:47:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2007, 01:17 AM) [snapback]276699[/snapback]
The percentage of people in European countries who said in 2005 that they believe in God.

Countries with Roman Catholic or Muslim majorities tend to poll highest.

smile.gif smile.gif

which God?
mortonjag 2007-05-23 05:56:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2007, 03:32 AM) [snapback]276704[/snapback]


Zoos are dangerous places


http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=268797

The plague, caused by a bacteria mad.gif called 'Yersinia pestis', is transmitted to animals by fleas.

The disease is common to nearly all countries, but not Australia.

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

Semantic change-no way-pure unadulterated ignorance.

Munx has had his jag-he'll be fine.

Can you imagine anybody in Greenock toting the name of JOHN PAPE-he'd undoubtedly be plagued by hordes of imaginary Huns.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 06:15:29
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 22 2007, 10:21 PM) [snapback]276659[/snapback]
It's a bit of a stretch when people say that the Potato Famine was genocide, right enough.

[b]Cromwell on the other hand...[/b]

SICK MICK'S PRAYER


With apologies to Robert Burns and Hugh Means.



Last night I knelt in humble prayer
forgiving 'Huns' who weren't there.
They won't be there again today-
I wish those 'Huns' would go away.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 06:18:07
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 23 2007, 05:58 AM) [snapback]276715[/snapback]
Sorry, mate, but I think we'll have to agree to disagree, because I still don't see what the problem is.

The question that I have is "Who the f*** cares?"

The Greenock polis might give you an less biased opinion Trick!
mortonjag 2007-05-23 06:19:21
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 23 2007, 06:02 AM) [snapback]276716[/snapback]
Maybe the stroke just isn't being done the right way...... laugh.gif

Timing, manicure, and practice!
mortonjag 2007-05-23 06:21:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2007, 06:08 AM) [snapback]276720[/snapback]
better than Johnny Pape ?

huh.gif

John Pape-the simian epidemiologist in your link.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 06:22:46
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2007, 06:09 AM) [snapback]276722[/snapback]
The God ... not the blue peac***

smile.gif Ah THE God.

I thought it maybe just referred to any old god.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 06:26:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2007, 06:24 AM) [snapback]276730[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

I know that, mate - I was thinking of our mutual "hero" Johnny.

Back in the 1960s, from memory, Pape was young and beautiful ... but, a lot of red wine has been supped since then.

smile.gif smile.gif

A thing of the past indeed.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 06:28:26
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 22 2007, 09:26 PM) [snapback]276639[/snapback]
Don't know if anybody has seen the news regarding animal cruelty in the Chinese Zoos.

Was watching it tonight and it is quite horrific. Tigers are eating cows/chickens for the entertainment of people to watch this.

Found it quite horrific to watch. Animals are going mental in cages becos they are confined to such small enclosed spaces.

What you don't see doesn't hurt you SW.

Are you a veggie?
mortonjag 2007-05-23 06:31:14
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2007, 06:16 AM) [snapback]276724[/snapback]
surely there was NEVER a more important time to support and comfort each other.


How about the fund doing something to support and comfort the mother and family of Duaa Khalil Aswad ?

Dare I venture to mention that she was of a different persuasion-mind you, you could always e-mail the McCanns and ask NewTon.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 06:34:35
QUOTE(InverAlly @ May 22 2007, 09:21 PM) [snapback]276636[/snapback]
Just knowledge and experience mortonjag, knowledge and experience.

I would be fairly sure that the Board knows the rules, wouldn't you?

I think Crawford Rae has already made it clear his thoughts on the posters on here at a recent town hall event.
Don't think he sees all fans as eejits though, maybe you're being paranoid... wink.gif

No-one can be prepared for any eventuality.

Promotion this season after our recent history? You must be crackers sir. rolleyes.gif

laugh.gif I smell a cynic.

Would 'knowledge and experience' like to expand? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-23 06:41:41
QUOTE(briggsTON @ May 22 2007, 10:20 PM) [snapback]276656[/snapback]
It still exists,not in football unfortunately, there is no 'back chat' in Rugby either League or Union. The last team which didn't in football was Notts Forest under Brian Clough. Compare Roy Keane's record under Clough to under Ferguson. Enjoying our chat 'mortonjag'.

Mind you 'back chat' has its funny side. I remember watching Partick one Saturday when the Ton's game was off.

Chick Charnley was up to his usual tricks, and had already been booked. The ball went out for a throw in to the opposition right in front of us, and Chick disputed the decision in no uncertain terms.

'Linesman he asked' with a big grin, 'are you're f*cking blind or something'?

Instant red card, and he ran off protesting innocence!
mortonjag 2007-05-23 06:57:01
QUOTE(Savo @ May 23 2007, 12:39 AM) [snapback]276692[/snapback]
You can count me out of the rush to stick the boot into Paul Mathers.

All of this stuff about people not being able to recall an 'oustanding save' or 'a save of note' is a massive red herring. We recorded a good few clean sheets with the guy in goal and surely that is much more important.

The guy was brought in because our then-keeper's confidence had taken a serious jolt and we also needed a voice at the back - quickly. He might not be Lev Yashin, but Mathers gave us the experience we needed at the time.

Nor do I understand the bleating about him 'only coming here for a medal'. If he did, then what is the harm in that exactly? After all, he performed creditably and helped us to the title in doing so. He benefited and so did the club.

IMHO Paul's form may not have matched his sparkling best at times, but I don't hear many complaints about several other regulars who at times should frankly have been dropped. Davie McGurn's a good keeper and will probably mature still. We needed Mathers' experience, and we still need two able goalkeepers.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 06:59:59
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 23 2007, 06:05 AM) [snapback]276718[/snapback]
Hey, Up The Ton, where are you? Come out, come out, wherever you are......

May 22nd to 23rd Trick-Annual Feegie 'cestfest'-all jaked up and enjoying a game the whole family can play.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 07:01:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2007, 06:31 AM) [snapback]276734[/snapback]
Is there a possibility of the SNP producing a new policy to make it illegal for Old Scum supporters to take their tops overseas.

They are bloody everywhere ... Dublin, Toronto, Chicago, Miami, Sydney, Perth, Bali

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

Ban the Bali bigots.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 07:04:09
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2007, 06:52 AM) [snapback]276738[/snapback]
odds and sods

bits and bobs
mortonjag 2007-05-23 07:08:57
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2007, 06:55 AM) [snapback]276739[/snapback]

It's astonishing how simple some folk are-red wine stains just about anything, and very quickly too.

If it's wiped or licked away quickly enough it hasn't time to take effect.

The same PHENOMENON (noun-singular), is frequently observed with proprietary 'Cream of Tomato Soup'.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 07:17:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2007, 07:08 AM) [snapback]276744[/snapback]
Aye, mortonjag, the Balinese sure don't need them.

Some of the most wonderful people on this planet - the Balinese I mean.

'Balinese' NewTon-I feel a Limerick coming on!

A poorly paid seamstress named Sally
sewed shirts in a sweatshop in Bali,
and late in the night
in her penniless plight
she touted her wares down the alley.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 07:20:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2007, 07:14 AM) [snapback]276746[/snapback]
It's astonishing how simple some folk

Gidday mortonjag,

do you mean simple wine drinkers as distinct from those who drink complex wines ???

huh.gif huh.gif

Frankly I wouldn't know the difference if I found either in my Cream of Tomato Soup NewTon.

I'm a complete Philistine when it comes to wine, but I understand % by volume! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-23 07:46:40
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2007, 07:27 AM) [snapback]276749[/snapback]
Bob and Carol and Ted and Alice

Bill and Ben and Pat and Mick
mortonjag 2007-05-23 07:48:45
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2007, 07:30 AM) [snapback]276750[/snapback]
and I thought that you had an interest in applied chemistry

ohmy.gif

That's Bam McT-'Trollbuster Tim' to his friends!
mortonjag 2007-05-23 07:50:14
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2007, 07:34 AM) [snapback]276751[/snapback]
We are active supporters of the "Show Racism the Red Card" and will not tolerate racism of any kind on the board.

unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-23 07:53:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2007, 07:44 AM) [snapback]276752[/snapback]
how about a giant porcupine by breech delivery-mind you Sick Mick's arse is probably immune to pain by now.
I'm lost.

Is Sick Mick really a lady ?

Michelle - your belle ?

huh.gif

Anus is indeed Latin for an 'old lady'!

I was alluding to procreative function of a perverse and fruitless type.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 07:55:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2007, 07:51 AM) [snapback]276757[/snapback]
mortonjag, I would NEVER confuse you with Teacher Tom.

Or he with you.

laugh.gif laugh.gif

Our chemistry teacher in Pishley Grammer was nicknamed 'wee Hitler'-it doesn't sound very inventive, but was spot on!
mortonjag 2007-05-23 07:56:55
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2007, 07:47 AM) [snapback]276754[/snapback]
Hello Weed

flobbadop-(or something like that!)
mortonjag 2007-05-23 07:59:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2007, 07:56 AM) [snapback]276760[/snapback]
Anus amas ?

In veritas NewTon, Homo Erectus sum.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 08:06:23
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2007, 06:35 AM) [snapback]276736[/snapback]
It would do a lot more good than the Allied troops' presence.

What was that US saying in Vietnam - hearts and minds.

Then again she was from a minority sect.

sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

Puts some perspective on the ego polishing sheep mentality who have tossed their hard earned cash into a dubious offertory box at the beck and call of tabloid spin.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 08:11:46
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2007, 08:05 AM) [snapback]276765[/snapback]
With their 'flibadobs' and 'flobadobs' as their way of communicating, they lived in two giant flowerpots at the bottom of the garden, behind the potting shed.

biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

I remember them well. Little weed was sweet and demure as she gently canted her head to one side-if I recall there was also a snail-not Brian from 'The Magic Roundabout' or Sick Mick from Never Neverland, mind you.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 08:16:16
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2007, 08:12 AM) [snapback]276769[/snapback]
I really feel of the McCanns.

However, the family of Duaa Khalil Aswad must be going through absolute misery.

And sadly some of them will believe that the stoning was "correct" as she was a BAD girl.

mad.gif mad.gif

...which she undoubtedly believed too, but girls will be girls.

The age old evil of him, who is without sin, chucking the first stone.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 08:17:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2007, 08:16 AM) [snapback]276771[/snapback]
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbeebies/billandben/

The 21st century Bill and Ben

sad.gif

back to wurdz

beebies
mortonjag 2007-05-23 08:42:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2007, 08:07 AM) [snapback]276767[/snapback]
mother

biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Nice looking lady from the fifties it appears. Your Mum?
mortonjag 2007-05-23 08:42:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2007, 08:19 AM) [snapback]276773[/snapback]
seabees

Dee bees
mortonjag 2007-05-23 09:04:46
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2007, 08:30 AM) [snapback]276776[/snapback]
Semper Paratus



Semper paratus sed non semper erectus as the Bishop may have said on some occasion I guess.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 09:07:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2007, 08:45 AM) [snapback]276783[/snapback]
Dee jays

Dee eyes
mortonjag 2007-05-23 09:15:30
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 23 2007, 08:56 AM) [snapback]276787[/snapback]
Brought up in Kilamacolm and educated in Paisley ? Perhaps old Karl was right then, about a man being the product of his environment. biggrin.gif

Cheeky b*****d-Octavia Cottages-Holmscroft St-Argyle St in the Port (near Inchgreen and long since gone)-Bardrainney Avenue-then Kilmacolm, where Jim Mather and Annabel Goldie attended the local Primary school as I did.

I would have gone to the 'Academy', but at the time of my 'qually', the 'Grammar' had a better reputation and it was my parents' choice.

Most of my school mates were 'Huns'-only two of us went to Scapa, and I definitely don't recall any of the bitter rivalry with the Skunks which now prevails.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 09:21:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2007, 09:01 AM) [snapback]276789[/snapback]
Mick, why have you foresaken me ?

His 'team's' got a big match on this weekend, and it's highly probable they'll get humped by Kenny's lot who've nothing to lose.

Thae beads'll be rid hot, wi' novinas flyin' right left an' centre.

Mon the Pars.

mortonjag 2007-05-23 09:29:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2007, 09:11 AM) [snapback]276796[/snapback]
as the Bishop may have said on some occasion I guess.

Whit ?

said to the actress ?

I was thinking more of sermons-'We mortal's may not always be 'up to' the wiles of the devil, but must always be prepared for temptation'.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 09:31:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2007, 09:16 AM) [snapback]276801[/snapback]
dee knee bone

Pat L.A.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 09:36:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2007, 08:43 AM) [snapback]276781[/snapback]
Your Mum?
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Watch with ?

Dementia ?

laugh.gif Even earlier-
'Are you sitting comfortably? Then I'll begin. Once upon a time, in a quaint little coastal town called Greenock, a baby boy was born. His Mummy and Daddy called him Michael, just like the label on your Mummy's knickers says, but sadly children, he was to be no Saint...
mortonjag 2007-05-23 09:44:26
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 23 2007, 09:37 AM) [snapback]276812[/snapback]
Will that be yourself then, praying for the Pars?

Prayer on my part is unneccessary-the Tims will get their arses felt.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 09:49:55
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2007, 08:59 AM) [snapback]276788[/snapback]
In 1966 the soccer World Cup was on and England played Argentina in a dramatic quarter-final at Wembley.

Both the Charltons, Jack and Bobby, were cautioned, not that many noticed.

Then the Argentinian captain Antonio Rattin was sent off. He did not know what the referee was going on about and eventually he was escorted from the field.

Sitting at a traffic light, referee Ken Ashton wondered how to improve communication in this regards.

He recalled: "As I drove down Kensington High Street, the traffic light turned red.

I thought, 'Yellow, take it easy; red, stop, you're off'."

He suggested the cards, but change is slow.

Ten years later red and yellow cards were used in league matches for a while and then

introduced at the 1988 World Cup in Mexico

and eventually were introduced in to soccer laws in 1992by which time Ashton was 77 and no longer a referee

...but could still handle his whistle.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 09:59:34
QUOTE(ThornTON @ May 23 2007, 09:36 AM) [snapback]276809[/snapback]
The bare minimum we need is a keeper, a defender, a midfielder and Gowzer (avoiding MJ calling him a midfielder, and thus making this a 5 page thread, by not classing him as anything)

'Morton sign new goalie as they tie up loan deal with Celtic-McGowan to return to Cappielow'.

Celtic 'striker' Paul McGowan, who has shot up by six inches in the last month has agreed terms with Greenock Morton.

He is guaranteed to play in every game, barring injury, and will undoubtedly continue to thrill the Greenock fans with his blend of youth and experience.

Ton manager Jim McInally said, 'Paul's a great lad so I'd never have him out of any team I fielded. The switch from attack to defence will not phase him'.

David McGurn was unavailable for comment as he was practising taking corners.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 10:04:19
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 23 2007, 09:34 AM) [snapback]276808[/snapback]
Aye, all my bloody life. laugh.gif
You're right about St Mirren in the 60's though. Kilmarnock was seen as our biggest rival back then as I recall. No extremes of dislike in that case either.

Red wine lips

I now can't get Neil Diamond's Red red wine out of my head-it sounds a good song title.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 10:05:08
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 23 2007, 09:47 AM) [snapback]276821[/snapback]
ALpat

Ta pal
mortonjag 2007-05-23 10:07:59
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 23 2007, 09:50 AM) [snapback]276825[/snapback]
Come on now lads, I've never been to a final where they've lost. wink.gif

First time for everything Micky me bhoy-Kenny's a wily Tim you know, and it takes one to beat one.

Bookies banker if you ask me.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 10:12:03
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 23 2007, 10:07 AM) [snapback]276842[/snapback]
A mason AND a crab.

Winston Churchill was a good brickie-and definitely a crab.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 10:15:32
QUOTE(Newsboy @ May 23 2007, 10:10 AM) [snapback]276847[/snapback]
Can't believe the amount of grief the parents are getting on this thread and the other one.

Sure they can be blamed for leaving the kids, but nobody will be blaming them more than themselves. They took a chance, they shouldn't have done it (in fact they didn't need to as there was a listening service available), and they were really unlucky.

Some of the other stuff just beggars belief - 'whatever their motives', 'there's something about them', 'they should be punished' (haven't they been punished enough?).

I don't buy all this 'if they were from a cooncil estate' stuff. If they were then maybe they would get grief, but only if the kid had turned up, and if this kid had turned up then I'm sure the McCanns would be copping it now as well.

Sounds a bit like inverted snobbery to me.

As for the fund/publicity etc, wouldn't you do everything you could to find your child?

The extent of compassion on here seems to only go as far as 'I hope they find her, but......'

Of course I would, and in my opinion Mr McCann is the very one who should have left the matter in the hands of the experts in the field.

I doubt if he'd take kindly to some Iberian copper telling him how to wield his scalpel.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 10:17:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2007, 10:16 AM) [snapback]276853[/snapback]
Everyone/anyone who wants to see how racist Aussie TV really is ?

smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif
I think I will complain to the Broadcasting Tribunal.

Our sympathies are with any offended.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 10:19:00
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 23 2007, 10:18 AM) [snapback]276856[/snapback]
A Scotsman, an Englishman and an Irishman all go to a pub. The Irishman spends £20, the Englishman spends £25 and the Scotsman has a very pleasant evening.

...and
mortonjag 2007-05-23 10:19:49
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 23 2007, 10:18 AM) [snapback]276855[/snapback]
at lap

tlapa
mortonjag 2007-05-23 10:24:32
QUOTE(jpmil @ May 23 2007, 10:18 AM) [snapback]276857[/snapback]
McInally has called the shots and released these 2 but he won't be the first manager to look back and find that he has made a bad call. Other well known players who were released were Jimmy Cowan & Billy Steel who then joined Morton and did pretty well and I'm sure that there are many other examples.

It happens all the time. If the moves have suited both the players' and the Club's interests, I'd say no harm's been done and two wages have been saved. Both lads still have plenty of time to prove their worth elsewhere.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 10:27:38
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 23 2007, 10:21 AM) [snapback]276862[/snapback]
What part of his anatomy has grown .. Big Boy !! laugh.gif

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-23 10:31:07
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 23 2007, 10:23 AM) [snapback]276864[/snapback]
tapla

apt Al
mortonjag 2007-05-23 10:35:22
QUOTE(nach0king @ May 23 2007, 10:31 AM) [snapback]276871[/snapback]
A Scotsman, an Englishman and an Irishman walk into a pub. The barman says, "Is this some kind of joke?"?

A Scotsman, an Englishman, and an Irishman walk into a pub and end up in hospital.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 10:37:06
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 23 2007, 10:32 AM) [snapback]276872[/snapback]
No, I'm just wondering what makes you say "closet". I mean I'm quite blatantly a Celtic supporter. If it's sarcasm, it's too early in the morning for it...

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-23 10:45:24
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ May 23 2007, 10:35 AM) [snapback]276876[/snapback]
I don't think anybody objects to the effort and fundraising that this girl's disappearance has provoked and I don't think the original poster was being nasty about that. If any of us had a child and they were snatched from us of course you'd take all the help you could get.

I have SERIOUS reservations, both about the motivation, and the practical value of this exercise.

The child is probably dead. If not the investigation must be pursued with utmost care and delicacy by those who have experience and are not blinded by emotion.

If the wee soul's still alive, and has been abducted by some misguided childless person or people, at least she is safe, and there is hope.

The alternative hardly bears thinking about, but publicly dangling vast sums of money is potential temptation for some evil scam by previously uninvolved crooks.

Only time will tell.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 10:49:03
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 23 2007, 10:33 AM) [snapback]276874[/snapback]
Craig Nelson and Mark McGeown are 2 keepers who impressed me in this division. Surprisingly enough both are quite old and experienced. Age doesn't matter much when signing a goalkeeper.

Age doesn't matter when signing a player-only fitness and ability.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 10:51:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 23 2007, 10:46 AM) [snapback]276884[/snapback]
There was this bloke who was 1/2 Irish, 1/2 Scottish.

He wanted a drink but he couldn't bring himself to buy one.

It's said that the Irish are never at peace unless they're fighting.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 10:52:42
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 23 2007, 10:43 AM) [snapback]276881[/snapback]
I don't see what's wrong with supporting two teams - particularly if they don't play in the same league.

Man cannot serve two masters, God and Mammon (KING JAMES VERSION MICKY)
mortonjag 2007-05-23 11:00:26
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 23 2007, 09:58 AM) [snapback]276833[/snapback]
Yeah its on ITV and Sky Sports 1
rolleyes.gif
Ah I was going by my Ed Uni flatmate who hasn't had hers yet....hope they went ok? You can arrange the night out then tongue.gif

Hope you have a flipping good time then-don't egg her on too quickly, or you might not crack it.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 11:02:46
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 23 2007, 11:01 AM) [snapback]276893[/snapback]
A Scotsman, an Englishman and a Jamaican are all sitting in a hospital waiting room outside of a maternity ward waiting for their wives to give birth.

After quite some time, a nurse comes out and tells them that there’s been a problem at the nursery and due to a clerical error their children have been somehow mixed up. She asks each man to come into the nursery and check to see if they can tell which one is their baby, looking for family resemblance and whatnot.

After some deliberation, the Scotsman picks up the only black baby of the three and proclaims: “This one’s mines.†The nurse gives him a funny look, and says that of the three, she was sure that one was definitely not Scottish. The Scotsman replies: “Aye, but one of the other two is English and I’m not taking any chances!â€

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-23 11:04:05
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 23 2007, 11:01 AM) [snapback]276894[/snapback]
Every one a belter lads and everyone copyright Dave Allen 1973.

In other breaking news, a small Swedish group called Abba are tipped to do well in Eurovision.

TonInDublin

Did four finger boogie write your signature TID? biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-23 11:06:44
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 22 2007, 10:21 PM) [snapback]276659[/snapback]
It's a bit of a stretch when people say that the Potato Famine was genocide, right enough.

Cromwell on the other hand...

...had a blemish?
mortonjag 2007-05-23 11:13:11
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 23 2007, 11:10 AM) [snapback]276900[/snapback]
Probably.

unsure.gif I thought you knew a story about the 'Protector'-nasty piece of stuff I'm led to believe, but wasn't he English?
mortonjag 2007-05-23 11:28:43
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ May 23 2007, 11:07 AM) [snapback]276899[/snapback]
As above
http://www.inverclydenow.com/news-detail2.asp?ID=3594

Good decision IMHO, McInally has to be ruthless when bringing players in this season.

The report seems to suggest that Mathers was hoping the Ton would 'up' their offer. Doesn't sound like much committment, and no fault to him-he's a pro-but probably best to move on now.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 12:09:10 Women get boob jobs, tummy tucks, and buttock enhancements, but the men are more or less stuck with their luck. What do you think?

I'm past caring BTW. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-23 12:14:22
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 23 2007, 12:11 PM) [snapback]276913[/snapback]
Bundy jumper

sunday best
mortonjag 2007-05-23 13:12:22
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 23 2007, 12:26 PM) [snapback]276916[/snapback]
I said to her "hen, don't c0ck them up..."

She didn't chicken out and leave you in a fowl mood then!
mortonjag 2007-05-23 13:20:48
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 23 2007, 01:05 PM) [snapback]276934[/snapback]
So, you have a small willy? Is that what you're saying?

Relatively speaking, yes rolleyes.gif, and sometimes! As my Mum used to say 'Guid gear comes in small bulk' BH, and the expression 'size doesn't matter-it's what you do with it that counts' springs to mind.

Anyway, I suspected that all the big mouths on the forum would be singularly absent from this thread-you and Edinton have at least penetrated the silence, albeit in a non-committal way! I await a deafening response.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 13:23:42
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 23 2007, 01:10 PM) [snapback]276938[/snapback]
Titus Bramble, Kieron Dyer and a random blonde.

jam
mortonjag 2007-05-23 13:26:05
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 23 2007, 12:32 PM) [snapback]276920[/snapback]
voted best joke of 2006 in Ireland
>>
>>
>>
>>John O'Reilly hoisted his beer and said, "Here's to spending the rest of
>>me life!, between the legs of me wife!"
>>
>>
>>
>>That won him the top prize at the pub for the best toast of the night!
>>
>>
>>
>>He went home and told his wife, Mary, "I won the prize for the Best toast
>>of the night"
>>
>>
>>
>>She said, "Aye, did ye now. And what was your toast?"
>>
>>
>>
>>John said, "Here's to spending the rest of me life, sitting in church
>>beside me wife."
>>
>>
>>
>>"Oh, that is very nice indeed, John!" Mary said.
>>
>>
>>
>>The next day, Mary ran into one of John's drinking buddies on the street
>>corner.
>>
>>
>>
>>The man chuckled leeringly and said, "John won the prize the other night
>>at the pub with a toast about you, Mary."
>>
>>She said, "Aye, he told me, and I was a bit surprised myself. You know,
>>he's only been there twice in the last four years. Once he fell asleep,
>>and the other time I had to pull him by the ears to make him come.

Aural sex
mortonjag 2007-05-23 13:28:12
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 23 2007, 01:24 PM) [snapback]276944[/snapback]
I occasionally get spam emails through which say something like "would you like a 12cm penis?".

I'm tempted to reply "No thanks, I'm not cutting 3 cms off for anyone".....

Doctored it for you Alibi. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-23 13:34:41
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ May 23 2007, 12:29 PM) [snapback]276919[/snapback]
Famous Scottish street gangs.
http://www.scotland.com/forums/history/239...et-gangs-3.html

Some interesting discussions and some priceless quotes e.g. Teashoci-
“I being a 21 year old glaswegian can honestly say i have several times run into the paths of these idiots.
…
when there are 20 of these toothless smack ravaged morons maybe it could pass for a gang but thats only in numbers these scumbags are so riddled with methadone and mal nourished a stiff breeze one over.

i remember one night two of these idiots tried to mug me and my brother we both put up our gaurds ( even though i cant box but my brother can) and they ran off thinking they bit more of than they can chew."
The Kelvinside Banter boy.

Most of the said 'toothless smack ravaged morons', are either 'oot the game' or too busy working out how to get their next 'fix' to run in 'Street Gangs' as he suggests.

It's the 'teeny bopper' gangs which are the real menace nowadays-anything from nine or ten upwards.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 13:49:40
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 23 2007, 01:28 PM) [snapback]276948[/snapback]
I'd take an inch of it if you wish to reconsider. sad.gif
laugh.gif

For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have in abundance:but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath. Matthew Chap. 25 Verse 29

Cruel world midTONs! sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-23 13:53:40
QUOTE(ayrstorm @ May 23 2007, 12:29 PM) [snapback]276918[/snapback]
disagree based on a conversation with an Ayr player - the FT vs PT decsion is not so clear cut these days.
I said I was surprised they kept Jerome when Morton had a FT contract on offer - he said while Morton were one of the better FT wage structures, the gap between what some clubs offer a FT player and others pay their PT has rastically narrowed over the years, in fact he was aware of FT guys in div2 on less than some PT!

In Veraille's case - he has an income outside of football and when you add that to a PT salary, it was not financially attractive to be FT in div2 and in long term it is his other job that will one day be his sole income.

So FT v PT is not always an easy decsion - especially for those drawing to close of football career and need to look at what they will do later - and I guess that Mathers is in that grouping!!

Kevin Finlayson took a drop in total wages to come here.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 13:56:02
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 23 2007, 12:49 PM) [snapback]276928[/snapback]
When Mathers came here is said he was so grateful for Morton coming in for him. He considered going to the lower leagues to get a game.
He had a choice of a 1 year deal with Morton to play in the 1st Divsion. Many players at his age would have jumped at the chance.
If he hesitates over a contract like that, then he is crazy. Looks like McInally had given him an ultimatum to sign and he still hesitated. Mathers will be the loser.
Fair play to McInally, not being held to ransome from a player like Mathers.

Nonsense-the boy's only trying to get the best from his career-loyalty is rare in professional football.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 13:58:48
QUOTE(Pat SharpTon @ May 23 2007, 12:27 PM) [snapback]276917[/snapback]
Today's Tele says Macca has enlisted the help of Artur Boruc in getting a Polish keeper to replace Mathers. He says they've been sent dvds of players over there and there's one they like the look of.
Jerzey Dudek anyone? laugh.gif

Caught him flogging the Ton's 'Cherry Blossom' at a car boot sale.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 14:19:56 [attachment=2946:IMG_CORA.jpg]
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 22 2007, 08:27 PM) [snapback]276605[/snapback]
Here's Sick Mick's wee dug Bobby Sands.

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2007-05-23 14:23:42
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 23 2007, 02:18 PM) [snapback]276979[/snapback]
Q: What do you call an Irish sever-course meal?

A: A six-pack of Guinness and a potato.

laugh.gif tongue.gif

Sever course-after the six pack, he'll be half cut Spud.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 14:35:24
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 23 2007, 02:24 PM) [snapback]276986[/snapback]
There once was a Senator from Mass
Who went out in search of some a$$.
Lucked out and found it,
Fücked up and drowned it,
And that was the end of his a$$.
(Who am I talking about?)

Who else but that famous member of the US tim elite!

An American Senator-Ted
grew weary of shagging in bed.
On an ill fated 'ride'
his 'passenger' died.
'To be sure- 't wasn't me' Teddy said. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-23 14:43:52
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 23 2007, 02:30 PM) [snapback]276991[/snapback]
I have to say one thing, and I mean no disrespect to anyone or their pets...... Do you REALLY think your bet WANTS to be dressed up? WHY does ANYONE do that??????

It's all to do with 'advanced empathy' trick-otherwise known as believing you can understand the thoughts and feelings of others. Pets normally come already supplied with their own garments!
mortonjag 2007-05-23 14:45:49
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 23 2007, 02:15 PM) [snapback]276976[/snapback]
LOL! You guys are good. I wonder why no ladies have hopped onto this board.....?

Here's a joke for you:

Back in the 80s, during the height of the Cold War, a Soviet condom factory put an order in to a condom factory in Alabama (which is deep in the heart of "Redneck Land") for a million condoms that were made for 12" schlongs. Of course, they did this for propaganda reasons.

Within the condom factory in Alabama, the workers completed the order, and some smart-a$$ed Redneck came up with a last-minute, brilliant idea.....he stamped them all as "medium," and shipped them out.

laugh.gif tongue.gif

In Russian I hope!
mortonjag 2007-05-23 14:46:40
QUOTE(lush @ May 23 2007, 02:40 PM) [snapback]276998[/snapback]
Many a good tune is played on an old fiddle. wink.gif

Comment or voice of experience? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-23 14:57:57
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 23 2007, 02:15 PM) [snapback]276976[/snapback]
LOL! You guys are good. I wonder why no ladies have hopped onto this board.....?

Here's a joke for you:

Back in the 80s, during the height of the Cold War, a Soviet condom factory put an order in to a condom factory in Alabama (which is deep in the heart of "Redneck Land") for a million condoms that were made for 12" schlongs. Of course, they did this for propaganda reasons.

Within the condom factory in Alabama, the workers completed the order, and some smart-a$$ed Redneck came up with a last-minute, brilliant idea.....he stamped them all as "medium," and shipped them out.

laugh.gif tongue.gif

Men are incredibly ignorant and sensitive about their Willies, Trick. The physiological truth is that wee ones can increase to 100% of the original size on full arousal, while the 'biggies' usually only manage 75%.

The net result is that (excluding absolute rarities, which we'll no doubt hear about on this thread) there is no more than about 3cms difference from one to the other when 'on the job'.

Excellent article on netdoctor.co.uk by David Delvin, for all who require reassurance or risk disappointment!
mortonjag 2007-05-23 15:04:46
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 23 2007, 03:02 PM) [snapback]277027[/snapback]
It was bad enough I had to read that info once, but twice.........?

Carefule here. If Upaclose comes on and sees this thread, he may develop a complex becasue he always has to get the microscope.......to find his. wink.gif laugh.gif tongue.gif

(To paraphrase a song....♪♪♪♪"Nothing times nothing leave nothing...."♪♪♪♪)

mmm-I knew there was a certain angst about that lad.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 15:09:06
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 23 2007, 03:05 PM) [snapback]277033[/snapback]
LOL! It's about time I got the first jab in with him..... laugh.gif

He'll undoubtedly be printing out Dr Delvin's article, altering 100% to 1000%, and pasting it onto his CV.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 15:17:40
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 23 2007, 03:08 PM) [snapback]277034[/snapback]
Not at all, I have never had a problem and it's giving me 4 great kids. I'm not one to complain if no one else is, but if there's an extra inch going a begging and you or someone you know can attach it let me know, not for my benefit I must add, for Mrs midTONs as I cannot think for the life of me anything else to get her for her next birthday. wink.gif

She sure goes in for peculiar brooches, midTONs-would a 'willie' tattoo not be simpler?
mortonjag 2007-05-23 15:20:45
QUOTE(C B @ May 23 2007, 03:01 PM) [snapback]277025[/snapback]
Q: What did the guy with the 12" penis have for his breakfast ?

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-23 15:30:33
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 23 2007, 02:15 PM) [snapback]276976[/snapback]
LOL! You guys are good. I wonder why no ladies have hopped onto this board.....?

Here's a joke for you:

Back in the 80s, during the height of the Cold War, a Soviet condom factory put an order in to a condom factory in Alabama (which is deep in the heart of "Redneck Land") for a million condoms that were made for 12" schlongs. Of course, they did this for propaganda reasons.

Within the condom factory in Alabama, the workers completed the order, and some smart-a$$ed Redneck came up with a last-minute, brilliant idea.....he stamped them all as "medium," and shipped them out.

laugh.gif tongue.gif

The old Professor of anatomy was teaching some students about the male genitalia. The class comprised of seven men, and one rather innocent female.

As he gave details of penile lengths in different continents, she became more and more uncomfortable, and her embarrassment heightened as the lads drew her knowing glances.

The crusty old chap announced that an unusual exception to the norm existed in a rare Bantu tribe, where the erect penis could reach a length of 12".

Blushing to the roots of her hair, and unable to take any more, she rose quickly, and just as she disappeared from sight, the old boy was heard to remark-'I could swear you won't catch a flight 'til tomorrow my dear'.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 15:31:44
QUOTE(C B @ May 23 2007, 03:22 PM) [snapback]277046[/snapback]
Well ??? Do you give in???

I KNOW the answer CB wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-23 15:32:58
QUOTE(WillowMan @ May 23 2007, 03:26 PM) [snapback]277049[/snapback]
Just like the loving husband who came home with 'I luv u' tattooed on his 'willie',
he showed his wife and her response was.....
There you go again trying to put f***ing words in my mouth tongue.gif

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-23 15:37:33
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ May 23 2007, 03:22 PM) [snapback]277045[/snapback]
They have a lot of faith I think and, as has been discussed on here very recently, it's blind faith. Both seem to be receiving a lot of guidance from the Catholic Church out there and from their parish back home, I only hope their positive outlook doesn't prove pointless and that their daughter is dead.

Tomorrow is three weeks since she was snatched.....................

since she 'disappeared'.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 15:43:50
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 23 2007, 03:28 PM) [snapback]277053[/snapback]
I was clucking raging!

Don't let it get you down, and ovoid feeling rotten about it, you're a young lad with free range of the capital.

Anyway chicks are like buses-if you miss one there will be another along in eggsactly three minutes.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 15:48:12
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 23 2007, 03:12 PM) [snapback]277039[/snapback]
To be honest, I don't care what's best for Mathers, only what's best for Morton. And as I say, if he is holding out for a deal somewhere else then f*** him ! Agree 100% with McInally on this one.

What exactly IS the background story oh tartan tale bearer-do let us into the hitherto untold details.

I assume we ALL want what's best for Morton-that doesn't mean Mathers actions are evil!
mortonjag 2007-05-23 15:53:48
QUOTE(C B @ May 23 2007, 03:43 PM) [snapback]277067[/snapback]
laugh.gif Were you behind me in the Q at McDonalds this morning wink.gif

I was looking at it more laterally-when somebody asks-'What'? you reply-'Well it obviously wasn't you'!
mortonjag 2007-05-23 15:56:33
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ May 23 2007, 03:42 PM) [snapback]277066[/snapback]
Dr Wildenstein what sort of women are you harassing?

A shower or a grower! It's always comforting that these articles are written by men.

I've never harrassed a lady in my life-au contraire mon ami-I have always struggled to cope with the demand for my services. cool.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-23 15:57:48
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 23 2007, 03:53 PM) [snapback]277073[/snapback]
Stuck in the middle with you!!

Stuck in the middle with pee.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 16:01:54
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 23 2007, 03:57 PM) [snapback]277079[/snapback]
Stop putting words into my mouth I never said Mathers actions were evil.

The point i'm making is if Mathers is holding out for another deal then McInally was right to withdraw the contract. Is Mathers saying he has had offers from elsewhere for Morton to "up" his contract from what is on the table right now ?

I'd be charged with overcrowding.

You've just said what most have already said, the difference being that you described JM being 'held to ransom by a player like Mathers'.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 16:04:54
QUOTE(C B @ May 23 2007, 04:00 PM) [snapback]277082[/snapback]
You're too clever for this messageboard, i was just gonna tell you what i had laugh.gif

Mightily endowed or massively disfigured, eh CB? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-23 16:12:44
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ May 23 2007, 03:56 PM) [snapback]277077[/snapback]
MJ, i may be mistaken but have you not started a topic on knobs before? blink.gif

Possibly-possibly not-I don't know much about knobs really-doorknobs, bedknobs, and 'Big Knobs' are the only ones I can think of off hand.

BTW this thread's about penises, Mr Blue-the Caucasian variety's pink, while the Asian C0CK is brown-blue C0CKS are very rare, while blue tits are abundant.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 16:16:40
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ May 23 2007, 04:04 PM) [snapback]277087[/snapback]
Just to take a photo of him/her for a laugh. Its no big deal, what's the harm he didnt mind. Its not like my dog walks about the house in the Morton top. He 's doesn't have his own wardrobe or anything? wink.gif

See!! He's naked here!! ohmy.gif
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDThat's a nice pooch!
mortonjag 2007-05-23 16:29:10
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 23 2007, 04:10 PM) [snapback]277090[/snapback]
Mine to.

Toby he never done any better than I would have expected McGurn to do.
He was obviously playing a dangerous game of football poker, he imo tried to play one of against the other for more money, Morton gave him the chance to resurrect his career or at least get him off the bru, it looks like he didn't have the same respect for them as they did for him. I reckon he will regret his actions, wither or not he is man enough to admit it is another issue.

That's the whole point midTONs-wait 'til we get the full story-THEN if he's been coming the c*nt-we can slate him.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 16:35:37
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 23 2007, 04:26 PM) [snapback]277098[/snapback]
I might be wrong here but I think the cheeky 40 was a Greenock gang in the early 40s who had a bit of a reputation for themselves from beating up French seamen who came to the Greenock area,.

Cocque au meringue peut etre?
mortonjag 2007-05-23 17:23:29
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ May 23 2007, 04:42 PM) [snapback]277112[/snapback]
Even without his Morton top? wink.gif

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mortonjag 2007-05-23 17:25:43
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 23 2007, 04:57 PM) [snapback]277121[/snapback]
Thanks, wouldn't want to be done for assault and battery. The beaks would throw the book at me!

You should ovoid being cooped up at owl cawsts.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 17:32:12
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 23 2007, 02:55 PM) [snapback]277014[/snapback]
They went to a land of sand,
With loads of money in hand.
They were given trust,
But the projects went bust.
Then they were finally canned.

(Who am I talking about?)

De Lesseps?
mortonjag 2007-05-23 17:35:45
QUOTE(GMC @ May 23 2007, 04:43 PM) [snapback]277113[/snapback]
Well done Jim McInally. biggrin.gif

What-for carrying out DDFR's instructions-well a joint effort perhaps!
mortonjag 2007-05-23 17:38:33
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 23 2007, 02:06 PM) [snapback]276971[/snapback]
Huh? Care to put that in English for me? unsure.gif

The annual Ferguslie Park incest festival where they are all under the influence of drugs and indulge in the aforesaid pursuit.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 17:40:19
QUOTE(grnklad2006ton @ May 23 2007, 05:00 PM) [snapback]277122[/snapback]
Hope it falls down ya bas*ard, get on ur own website ya fa**y. Your mum's like the local D.I.Y. store down here, 8p for a scr*w laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

...and a fiver for 'a bag'.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 19:15:25
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 23 2007, 06:46 PM) [snapback]277151[/snapback]
Mathers said at the end of last season he was looking forward to playing in the 1st division. He also said he was looking forward to playing at his old Clubs grounds like Dundee.
All indications were that he was signing for Morton. He has not been transparant in his motives and gave McInally no indication that he was not going to sign.
He delayed and delayed until McInally withdrew the offer. It now leaves Morton with the difficult problem of finding a decent keeper. None spring to mind. Maybe that's why he is looking to Poland. Problem there would be never having seen the keeper play.
This could potentially lead to big problems next season if we end up with a dodgy keeper.

Colkitto, sometimes you talk good sense about football (if not politics) but you're being a complete dickhead here.

'He has not been transparent in his motives'-what the f*ck's that meant to mean-you make him sound like some criminal with malice aforethought.

'He delayed and delayed'-he had every right to -a contract is signed by two consenting parties after appropriate consideration by both-did you expect him to be a good boy, and 'dae as he was telt'?

Morton MAY be left with the difficult problem you describe-Mathers has done nothing illegal. Has it not crossed your mind that if he was being 'naughty' and holding out for more, and if his remaining at Scapa is SO crucial, DDFR and JM could have upped the offer?

As I've said already, until we know the full story you'd be wiser to 'haud yer wheesht'.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 19:31:01
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 23 2007, 05:44 PM) [snapback]277132[/snapback]
Nope.

mm-Rommel?
mortonjag 2007-05-23 19:34:44
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ May 23 2007, 05:46 PM) [snapback]277135[/snapback]
What a ridiculous suggestion. Most children have no say in what their parents buy them to wear.

Can't believe I'm even wasting my time posting this.

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DM champion of Victorian values!!

Most parents have no say in what their children demand, and they'll scream their spoiled little heads off until they get it-well at least the wee pricks who are also arrogant enough to foist their provocative (and expensive) gear on genuine Ton supporters.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 20:19:20
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 23 2007, 07:29 PM) [snapback]277184[/snapback]
Fuxake you have made more unfounded allegations than anyone in that post !

I never said he had done anything illegal huh.gif .

And he did not sign a contract, but he gave every indication that he was going to. I think he is actually quoted as saying he didn't foresee any problems !!

And why should DDFR upped his contract ? The guy was nearly out of the game altogether if it wasn't for DDFR and McInally. That's a good way to repay them eh ?

He more or less gave a gentlemans agreement on a new contract. Then he went and started talking to other teams. draw your own conclusions on what kind of gentleman he is mad.gif

'More or less gave a gentleman's agreement'-that's the sort of thing that happens in the real world Colkitto, AND is standard behaviour in your beloved political world. Things change in people's lives-have you never said something in good faith, only to have to redress the situation?

ALL I've said is that you should stop blackening a guy's name unless you can provide facts in substantiation.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 20:27:31 If ever a lad needed an 'old heid' on the park to guide him, Paul's the one. He's just a 'wee boy' at heart. Good luck to him. As he quite rightly states, 'I am a Celtic player'.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 20:34:06
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 23 2007, 05:58 PM) [snapback]277137[/snapback]
stop hawking all the good puns....you're causing a bit of a flap!

I'm only trying to beak kind, and I'm owled enough to be your feather.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 20:37:11
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ May 23 2007, 06:51 PM) [snapback]277152[/snapback]
Who cares? You know what I meant and its probably 99% likely she was snatched............ sad.gif

The whole thing is probability Bug-99% certainty is what silly people conclude to be 100%. It's
FAR too important to make that sort of mistake.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 20:42:12
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 23 2007, 07:54 PM) [snapback]277195[/snapback]

A silly mistake, and one to be laughed at IMO. Bawheid's maybe uglier than yon Nazi P00F, but he's no dictator.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 20:45:33
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ May 23 2007, 04:05 PM) [snapback]277089[/snapback]
Your old Millport Rock has given up the ghost and now the first signs of dementia.

Penile dementia! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-23 20:51:38
QUOTE(AJCTON @ May 23 2007, 08:33 PM) [snapback]277209[/snapback]
my feeling exactly, did not rate this guy at all, thought mcgurn was doing quite well when he came in, aint bothered about him not signing, sure that he wont be missed as there will be better younger keepers out there that will jump at signing for us. Good bye Paul..................................shut the door on your way out.

I'm perfectly happy to see him go, but why all the acrimony and back stabbing? Every single time a player leaves Scapa we get this from posters. OK AJC, you didn't rate him, you're being consistent-I latterly had doubts too, but I still wish the guy well.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 20:54:26
QUOTE(stuart @ May 23 2007, 08:34 PM) [snapback]277212[/snapback]
Are we allowed to "loan" him again?

Didn't like that interviewer much.

It wasn't her fault Stuart-wee Gowser was so nervous she had to treat him that way to help him with his answers. 'Drawing teeth' they call it.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 22:09:26
QUOTE(standman @ May 23 2007, 09:54 PM) [snapback]277242[/snapback]
In what way did his experience help ? Morton still lost crazy goals with him between the sticks. The first goal against Ayr at Cappielow where the ball was crossed and the goalie and four defenders left it to one another is exactly the sort of goal which should not have been conceded if his brierf was to improve things with his experience.

More goals conceded with Mathers than McGurn at the point where they has played the same amount of games. Fact.

Where was the benefit ?

He didn't save an awful lot which came his way.

I'm not having a go... I just don't see what he brought to the team if we shipped more goals and didn't improve defensively ?

Each time this 'old chestnut' comes up I think-'Aye and everybody ASSUMES Davie McGurn would have done better-Davie's had some howlers too, and Mathers DEFINITELY added presence at first. That seemed to dissipate, and latterly I was wondering if he was match fit. McGurn DID get a raw deal, agreed, but it's tough at the top!
mortonjag 2007-05-23 22:12:47
QUOTE(AJCTON @ May 23 2007, 09:46 PM) [snapback]277238[/snapback]
one thing I am is consistant I never rated Mathers, well done to him he got what he came for, he was never going to sign another contract Mrs Mathers was always going to see to that and I dont blame her or him. He did okay but for god sake he's nearly 72 or something, he would just not cut it in the first and he knew it. dont get me wrong all the best to him but he just wont be missed, I never have any ill will against any Morton player when they leave but then its been a while since any of them signed for St. Midden.

Mortonjag I hope this clears up any thoughts that I was anti Mathers.

I never thought you were, but if you can state categorically that he was for the off from day one, how in f*ck's name did JM and Rae not know that?
mortonjag 2007-05-23 22:15:54
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 23 2007, 10:13 PM) [snapback]277255[/snapback]
Well if Mathers isin't signing then we have plenty of time to make a well thoughtout oppointment . Has McInally got enough faith in McGurn to become no1 or will he look for someone to over step McGurn ?
Good luck to Mathers in his future club as long as it doesn't conflict with our own interests .

Sensible comments, unlike Colkitto's histrionic panic stricken cries of 'too late, too late'.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 22:18:06
QUOTE(arklesTON @ May 23 2007, 10:11 PM) [snapback]277252[/snapback]
Its not Johnny Foreigner, its Alan Sugar's old mate Carlos Kick-a-ball.

I think it is a fantastic idea to get a squad of good Czech and Polish journeymen players from provincial teams and have a real go at the first division this season. They will most likely be better disciplined and better footballers than some of those that we have already, and they'd probably cost less in wages too. I'll bet the old toothrotter has got a few working in his factories, why not employ the same fiscal policy at Morton?

Hard working guys with a good attitude those Poles, and they will value our pound far more highly too.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 22:20:12
QUOTE(WillowMan @ May 23 2007, 10:14 PM) [snapback]277256[/snapback]
If they bring in a No.1 then they better bring in a No.2 as well because I'd reckon McGurn would GTF if they did.

Why does it always have to be 'either or'? Healthy competition for places is good for the squad, and the fans- competition which wasSADLY lacking last season for reasons well known.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 22:24:15
QUOTE(C B @ May 23 2007, 08:53 PM) [snapback]277224[/snapback]
Yes, shouldve stuck with XP for just now, Vista has more bugs than a Paisley Scouts camp bed !!!! dry.gif

unsure.gif bugs, or buggers, or both maybe.

mortonjag 2007-05-23 22:26:56
QUOTE(Kaney @ May 23 2007, 10:03 PM) [snapback]277243[/snapback]
I doubt i'd be refused entry at Ibrox or Parkhead wearing a Morton top.
The wee guys might not be into Morton that much, but just like to see a football game. I doubt they'd be able to afford, or even be allowed to wander into Glasgow on a saturday to see the OF play on a weekly basis.
Whilst I agree they could put a bit of effort in to wearing another T-Shirt, they're mostly young wee boys..

Would any of you have given a f*ck back then?
I doubt it blink.gif

From as far back as I can remember I'd not have sported either of the OF tops-ANYWHERE.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 22:36:37
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 23 2007, 10:09 PM) [snapback]277248[/snapback]
Que all the tinpot teuchter Nationalists to make sexist comments...

That'll show them you're not Nazis - be sure to slate the Jews too!

Of course, slating the papes goes without saying.

FFS the wannabee worm has slithered back out from under its stone-I'll have to repeat your prayer.


SICK MICK'S PRAYER



Last night I knelt in humble prayer,
forgiving 'Huns' who weren't there.
They won't be there again today-
I wish those 'Huns' would go away.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 22:58:25
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 23 2007, 10:56 PM) [snapback]277278[/snapback]
Well done.

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mortonjag 2007-05-23 23:02:19
QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 23 2007, 10:07 PM) [snapback]277247[/snapback]
This is my one major concern for next season.

To be honest I'd have liked to have seen a large clear out of the fringe players and guys who struggled to hold down a regular place last season.

Guys like Millar, McAlistair, McLaughlin and the like should've become squad players next season while our new guys would go staight into the first team in their place.

I fear we could be in for a very rude awakening if Jim doesn't use the transfer market extremely wisely.

unsure.gif

Agreed.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 23:06:35
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 23 2007, 10:24 PM) [snapback]277265[/snapback]
He is obviously a realist , he said he would consider another loan deal , whether that is with us remains to be seen .
He does look quiet a shy personality and lets his football do his talking .
After a season at the Ton he probably isin't used to the limelight as we all know thats Dougie's job .

dry.gif 'but it's HIS money, and he's the Saviour and he can do whatsoever pleaseth him an fingz' wacko.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-23 23:10:53
QUOTE(AJCTON @ May 23 2007, 10:23 PM) [snapback]277263[/snapback]
tough at the top.............McGurn was shafted by someone who was imo no better than him, presence and undoubted experience was all that Mathers added but still had his moments of calamity. Match fit wht do you expect from the oldest keeper in the world.......................at his age you forget to save things. All the best to him but he has done the best thing for him and us, at first I thought great but in the nd he was at best no better than what we had. I am sure that JM will bring in better, I have no fears for this season and actually think we will do quite well dependant of course on who does come in..............................................COME ON THE TON

..by the name of McInally. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-23 23:14:04
QUOTE(AJCTON @ May 23 2007, 10:49 PM) [snapback]277276[/snapback]
never slated the guy, just stated my opinion and your right did not get to that many games but enough to make a judgement. against killie every man was a hero......no doubt but how many games did we play as well as that after that game...............................................still thinking......................................................still thinking........................................forfar game aside absolutely zip. All Im saying is Mathers was no better than McGurn and imo wont be missed, I am being what I think objective and not knocking anyone. there is better out there to be had, keeperes, defenders, midfielders and strikers and god forbid we might even bring in someone better than McGowan...............................................I can hear it now everyone lining up to take shots at me after that statement but send it on.

Gowser was a joy to watch at times-at others he was simply an ever present JM favourite who flattered to deceive, and who kept genuine strikers out.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 23:15:36
QUOTE(loyal lass @ May 23 2007, 10:49 PM) [snapback]277275[/snapback]
So what are you saying about Scottish people? And they value our pound more because it goes so much further in their own country because that's where they spend it mad.gif

I said nothing about Scottish people Lass.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 23:26:01
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 23 2007, 11:11 PM) [snapback]277290[/snapback]
I read awhile ago that Mick Jagger had went to some remote tribe in South America who capture a certain type of bee/wasp that they put in a jar and sting the penis and the affects of the poison are quite long lasting . Didn't say what would happen if you took an allergic reaction to it !! Imagine turning up in casualty with that tongue.gif
I only recall the article as it brought tears to my eyes reading it . I think I'll put up with the complaints before going to that level . blink.gif

Believe it or not chrissiboi, that very story appeared in yesterday's 'Sun', which made a 'big' thing of Jagger's 'small' penis, quoting one of his exes in support of the claim.

'You were stung in the tadger by a swarm of bees-Aye right!

Pull the other one-it's got fourteen toes and plays silent night in Urdu'!

mortonjag 2007-05-23 23:29:45
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ May 23 2007, 11:20 PM) [snapback]277301[/snapback]
Personally I'd insist on proper hygene, decent clothes and manners. None of which I've witnessed very much over the years. Far more important than some scally wearing a Hun shirt.

...and when the said 'scallys' start singing wee scally songs extolling the virtues of 'Hunnery'- old Laissez faire McArthur will beam benignly,

A stitch in time Sir!
mortonjag 2007-05-23 23:32:32
QUOTE(arklesTON @ May 23 2007, 11:24 PM) [snapback]277304[/snapback]
In Glasgow it could be classed as 'Davie Cooper Syndrome'. Ever since he died, anyone who gets stabbed or hit by a bus is commemorated with a pile of old Rangers shirts tied to the nearest fence.

I'd rather the 'r' was redundant.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 23:35:09
QUOTE(cornbeef @ May 23 2007, 11:20 PM) [snapback]277300[/snapback]
Add another really and I'd definitely agree.

Really?
mortonjag 2007-05-23 23:39:17
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ May 23 2007, 11:33 PM) [snapback]277311[/snapback]
He'll never make it at Celtic, he'd be much better just coming here and finding a move up the ladder from there IMO.

What's said in haste may be regretted at leisure-he's done his stint with us IMO. Even if he does go out on loan I hope it's to a club which will nurture his playmaking potential. JM was kidding himself on he's a striker because he'd a surplus of midfielders, and presumably felt obliged to play him.
mortonjag 2007-05-23 23:50:56
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ May 23 2007, 11:37 PM) [snapback]277315[/snapback]
I have to say that in over 30 years of watching Morton I have never heard Hun nor Tim songs sung at Cappielow (except by Huns and Tims).
Me thinks you all have hee-haw going on in your lives and are filling a void, witch is pathetic frankly. I'm secure enough in supporting Morton that I couldn't give a fiddlers fart if a kid wears another teams strip.
See my post above for my list demands.

When did we decide they were all 'kids' DM?

80% disapprove on a simple matter-you are entitled to your opinion of course, but in this case ME thinks the minority have got it wrong. If it's all so innocent (and it probably is in most cases), those inoffensive little chappies won't mind in the slightest if it's explained to them that it's against the rules, and that when they grow up into big responsible Huns and Tims, the same will apply at their respective 'Locals'.
mortonjag 2007-05-24 00:17:40
QUOTE(Kaney @ May 23 2007, 11:55 PM) [snapback]277327[/snapback]
I go to cappielow to see Morton play football.
What people are wearing around me makes no difference atall, I couldn't care in the slightest. Its only a T-Shirt. I dont see what the big fuss is all about.
They're hardly committing a crime
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Opinions differ Kaney, and what doesn't affect you undoubtedly affects others. Rules have to be made in the general interest, and 80% of posters who've voted don't approve.

I'm getting on in years, and TBH, if they allowed wee 16 and 17 year old lassies to attend matches topless, I doubt if I'd be that interested, but if ANYBODY sat beside me in the stand wearing an OF strip, I'd ask politely which team he supported, AND expect a civilised and non confrontational answer.
mortonjag 2007-05-24 00:30:13
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 24 2007, 12:05 AM) [snapback]277329[/snapback]
That will now start another 10 page thread of criticism tongue.gif
The lad has stated he would find it difficult not to be involved in games must weeks . Celtic signed the Irish boy McAllister and you don't know who else Celtic may have promoted from their youth academy .
He obviously has respect for McInally so thats an advantage .
If we don't get this lad we will have to go into the new season with an unfamiliar striking partnership as Templeman and Linn haven't had enough time to gel and obviously whoever else we bring in will be a new face .


Thank f*ck it's down to ten!

We could argue 'til the cows come home Chris-the boy's good, but he's young and raw-look how he handled that interview-if JM told him to play left back he wouldn't bat an eyelid. In some ways I DON'T want him back if it's at the expense of an experienced player-ANYWHERE on the field. Incidentally I have reasonable expectations of Linn and Templeman, but we still lack a lot in key positions.
mortonjag 2007-05-24 00:37:28
QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 24 2007, 12:26 AM) [snapback]277331[/snapback]
I too was a big Mathers fan but I'm not too unhappy he's left.

I'm more concerned with other parts of the team - centre half, full back, left mid, centre mid and attack being greater priorities, imo.

Tony Bullock may be an ok shout as a replacement.

We're singing from the same hymn sheet, but I'd also LOVE to see one genuine and experienced winger.
mortonjag 2007-05-24 05:01:08
QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 24 2007, 01:30 AM) [snapback]277344[/snapback]
Like Neil McCann? smile.gif

Or wee Willie Henderson, or Jinky-a traditional winger who can get past the full back and put decent balls over. It would certainly add a string to our bow.
mortonjag 2007-05-24 05:19:48
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ May 24 2007, 03:11 AM) [snapback]277362[/snapback]
It's just my opinion, you've got yours and I've got mine, but to me the defence seemed to get worse when Mathers came in, Greacen and Harding seemed to totally lose their way. Mathers didn't talk as much as McGurn, and communication between everyone in the back 4, latterly 3, seemed to suffer. The goal against Ayr summed this up, with every player leaving it for someone else. Another goal which left me perplexed was Iain Russell's opener in the 2 - 0 defeat at Cappielow. A well taken goal, yes, but why was Mathers standing 10 yards off his line when Russell had the ball 25 yards out? blink.gif

My take is that WHEN, and for a good while after he arrived, the defence looked more coordinated, more confident in their keeper, and man marked better instead of losing shape and defending the same ball, as often happened previously with the two central defenders. Furthermore Mathers could be heard bellowing like a bull to the lads. We stood right behind him at the Annan game-and he WAS in command.

I'd also challenge the posters who are happy to knock him now to direct me to their criticism of Paul at that time. I was ASTONISHED that he seemed to be almost universally accepted as a good signing, with JM getting praise for bringing in experience. I felt sorry for Davie McGurn, but agreed with the opinion. While Mathers' 'Honemoon period' was ending, our too often gutless squad proceeded to produce another slump-during which he made a few surprising mistakes, but to blame the goalkeeper for general ineptitude is plainly daft.

Latterly I've been concerned about him. He's seemed to have lost all confidence in coming off his line, he's looked slow-almost stiff at times, and his normally excellent kicking has deteriotated. Those factors could indicate simple loss of form, unfitness, or loss of motivation-possibly in combination. I'd have happily given Davie McGurn a game in those latter stages.

People who make bald happy.gif and unreasonable statements are likely to have to eat their words. I don't think Mathers is finished yet, and if the new found 1st Division snobbery doesn't prevent his detractors from reading other reports in the SFL I'm certain they'll learn he's getting plaudits elsewhere come August.
mortonjag 2007-05-24 05:26:26
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ May 23 2007, 11:42 PM) [snapback]277318[/snapback]
heh. i see that all the time. but the tims do it as well.

But not QUITE as well! cool.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-24 05:40:31
QUOTE(marx @ May 24 2007, 01:10 AM) [snapback]277340[/snapback]
Right time for a Pat and Mick and the minister jokes then tongue.gif

Pat was carrying a wardrobe up a hill when the minister says is that not heavy Pat?

No said Pat, Mick is inside holding up the clothes.
I'll get my coat.

'Twas to be sure but Tim, Tim, the coonc'lrs son will soon be up to run his PARANOIA software,(Purge And Remove Any Nuance Of Irish Abasement), before rushing off to 'work' where he'll spend the whole day ghostbusting at his employer's expense.

Pat and Mick's Donkey couldn't get under the bridge. 'Dig out a trough for its feet' said Pat. 'Don't be daft' replied Mick, 'it's the ears that are too long'.
mortonjag 2007-05-24 05:46:18
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ May 24 2007, 01:08 AM) [snapback]277339[/snapback]
my c***, marion aka el caballero aka 'the whopper' aka the duke, is a thing of beauty. honestly, if there was such a thing as a c*** model, i'd be on 10 grand a day.

..instead of 10 Mayfair...


...and Cloud Cuckoo land! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-24 05:51:32
QUOTE(Lisa @ May 24 2007, 02:08 AM) [snapback]277345[/snapback]
may i correct u in saying that 'penises' isnt the correct word to use.
i believe the word u should be using is 'peni'
thank you.

my friend pointed that out to me as she has one.

laugh.gif Glad the op went well Lisa.

Let me assure you 'Penises' is the correct plural in everyday use.

Mr Trollbuster Bam, and the occasional decrepit old medical wallah might opt for the equally correct 'PENES'.

PENI is a coin or pasta.
mortonjag 2007-05-24 05:53:42
QUOTE(Deego @ May 24 2007, 02:18 AM) [snapback]277347[/snapback]
Trust you to pop up on a thread like this. rolleyes.gif
PS - She's seen my penis.

I note you carefully appended the 's' Deego!
mortonjag 2007-05-24 06:18:12
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 23 2007, 12:54 PM) [snapback]276931[/snapback]
No takers eh? Must be suffering from stage fright happy.gif

or the dreaded 'penis panic'-


KORO



An unnatural-sometimes pathological belief that the penis is shrinking inside the body, or has been stolen by someone else. Sufferers have been known to tie rocks to their knobends in their desperation to avoid a 'fate worse than death'.

Maybe some of the more inventive souls on this thread are doing the same, albeit figuratively.

Aye , right Mortonjag wacko.gif

Note to agnostics and Worried Wankeys--Well worth a wee look in Wikipaedia!
mortonjag 2007-05-24 07:56:31
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 24 2007, 07:27 AM) [snapback]277372[/snapback]
Bias ? biggrin.gif

of catalytic nature wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-24 08:43:39
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 24 2007, 08:15 AM) [snapback]277376[/snapback]
Now that one WAS funny !!!

TonInDublin

Pat and Mick arrived at the newly built Olympic Village in a battered old transit van dressed like-well-navvies!

Asked if they had a permit, Mick said 'To be sure Sir, to be sure, and handed over a chitty. The security man scratched his head-'This is the new Olympic Village' he said. Pat grinned-'Yes Sir, and we're here to do the the fencin'.
mortonjag 2007-05-24 09:16:29
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 24 2007, 09:04 AM) [snapback]277382[/snapback]
The answer is simple really.

If you are that strongly against kids turning up at Morton games in Old Firm colours, be the big man and walk up to them at the game and say so. Tell a 10 year old that the shirt he has on is not acceptable here and if he thinks about coming again with it on he will not be getting in as you say so! Then walk away knowing you done something good that day.

If - like me - it doesn't really bother you that much just get on with watching the game and cheering the team and hoping that the wee yins in their old firm tops get so into what is around them that they ask their parents for one of them blue and white strips everyone else around them wears on a Saturday (seeing as children for the most part are sheep with things like this) and we may end up with a new fan(s).

I'd assume ten year olds would be accompanied by an adult puggsy-I've seen plenty of teenagers with tops, and a not too small number of adults with smaller items like scarves, wooly bunnets etc. In theory your idea's fine, but coming from a guy who was indiscriminately picked on just because he was wearing HIS OWN SIDE'S COLOURS, I'm puzzled that you don't acknowledge the inflammatory effect OF tops can have. It just takes one stupid wee action, or comment, and things can go very wrong. As I suggested to Trick, get the local Police view on the issue.
mortonjag 2007-05-24 09:26:01
QUOTE(lush @ May 24 2007, 09:09 AM) [snapback]277384[/snapback]
f***! Trust you. mad.gif I meant NEEDED. rolleyes.gif

Chocolate boy's a complete 'Nerd' at times Lush, and his own 'offerings' frequently leave much to be desired.

1/ A sentence should not start with a conjunction (But).

2/ 'Trackies' should have apostrophes.

3/ The verb 'tuck' with its adverb 'into', should precede the noun-'trackies'.

Lush wins 3-1.
mortonjag 2007-05-24 09:31:01
QUOTE(shedhead @ May 24 2007, 09:18 AM) [snapback]277386[/snapback]
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 23 2007, 02:09 PM) [snapback]277248[/snapback]

Que all the tinpot teuchter Nationalists to make sexist comments...

That'll show them you're not Nazis - be sure to slate the Jews too!

Of course, slating the papes goes without saying.
[/quot

Weird how most celtic fans are unionists.

Sick Mick's just a wee boy who doesn't really know what he thinks shedhead-I'm all for fun and banter-as you know- wink.gif, and when he shies clear of the 'pape' thing he can be quite entertaining-but he's clearly got a bee in his bunnet about his religion.
mortonjag 2007-05-24 09:47:18
QUOTE(ThornTON @ May 24 2007, 09:29 AM) [snapback]277392[/snapback]
I'm intrigued by the preceeding apostrophe on 'trackies' before I put you back on ignore, what the hell do you think it is short for?

You intend putting me on 'ignore'! You ARE a 'f*cking child' at times. Incidentally, 'preceding' was the word you intended to spell.

You continue to make a complete 'arse' of yourself by failing to separate two discrete sentences.

I don't 'think' 'trackies' is short for anything. Unlike you, I know it's an abbreviated form of 'Tracksuit trousers', and as such requires apostropes 'fore and aft'.

Only a complete 'child' goes in the huff when cautioned for correcting others while believing in his own infallibility.
mortonjag 2007-05-24 09:54:03
QUOTE(shedhead @ May 24 2007, 09:37 AM) [snapback]277398[/snapback]
Ach I can get a bee in my bonnet about such things as well. I just need to learn to stay a wee bit more chilled wink.gif

We've all got our 'bunnet bees' I guess-but most of us are old enough to have thought things through.

Micky talks a good game, but he frequently confabulates, and at times totally contradicts his earlier posts. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-24 09:57:42
QUOTE(Up the Ton @ May 24 2007, 09:50 AM) [snapback]277403[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

blink.gif

Enjoy your relegation battle next season......f*nn**s laugh.gif

Talking to oneself-one of the classical symptoms of narcotic induced cortical degeneration.
mortonjag 2007-05-24 10:01:21
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 24 2007, 09:54 AM) [snapback]277406[/snapback]
You don't look around enough jag. There are pelnty of kids that age, probably from the neighbouring housing schemes, who go to the game themself. Remember it is only £2 in for them.

I meant to say they SHOULD be accompanied puggsy-GMFC are breaking the law if they are 'on their tods', so far as I'm aware.
mortonjag 2007-05-24 10:08:39 RU18?

Many happy returns- FFS I'm NEARLY old enough to legally be your Great Grandfather unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-24 10:23:03
QUOTE(ThornTON @ May 24 2007, 10:04 AM) [snapback]277410[/snapback]
Back on means you have been on there previously, you were getting the benefit of the doubt until you started posting 70 times a day, you sad motherf***er.

And apostrophe means that you have missed letters out, and there ain't any missed out at the start.

Do you honestly think that I was "pulling her up on a spelling mistake", you moron. It was clearly a joke, a play on a words, for comedic purposes.

Or do you need a smiley to let you know when people aren't being serious?

All written in one text format, with no smilies, how will you understand that?

A point of correction-any mother I may have f*cked would be inappropriately described as 'sad'.

You repeatedly 'pull folks up' for trivial spelling mistakes. You may well believe that to be 'a joke', but the truth is ThornTON, that your composition, grammar, syntax, and spelling are merely fair.

You really are, for an intelligent lad, utterly 'wet behind the ears' if you believe I'd be stupid enough to get my facts wrong.

Apostrophes are multi-functional, and your use was simply incorrect. Instead of arguing the point, try learning from it. Once you get into the habit of believing others' points of view may be valid, a whole new horizon opens before you. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-24 10:31:32
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ May 24 2007, 10:06 AM) [snapback]277411[/snapback]
It's not the car it's the driver

It's not the nail it's the hammer behind it

It's not the gun it's the gunner
Just three phrases used by men with small penises , what is the plurar of penis anyway ? Is it not Penii ?

'Penises', or for the more pedantic, the original Latin plural 'penes'. You'd have seen that if you'd tracked back a couple of posts-or could it be that your interest in things 'penile' has compromised your visual acuity? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-24 10:36:18
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 24 2007, 10:15 AM) [snapback]277417[/snapback]
This pidgin language is turning me a whiter shade of quail...

Don't sit starling into space-doo something before you're stark raven bonkers.

mortonjag 2007-05-24 10:38:18
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ May 24 2007, 10:34 AM) [snapback]277421[/snapback]
I must apologise for not having the desire to read three pages all about male sex organs ; especially in a busy hostel , I don't want people to think I am a rampant homo ; like you

Why do you describe my sexual activity as 'rampant'? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-24 10:45:43
QUOTE(nach0king @ May 24 2007, 10:40 AM) [snapback]277424[/snapback]
Neuchatel Xamax

Xanthi Prefectures
mortonjag 2007-05-24 11:55:24
QUOTE(nach0king @ May 24 2007, 11:11 AM) [snapback]277429[/snapback]
I'm pretty sure the name of the club is Skoda Xanthi... but nice try wink.gif


I listed the Prefecture instead of clubs within it!
Xanthi FC's the first to hand actually Nach0-I knew I'd get plenty of Greek clubs starting with X, and that lot play in the top division.

C isn't QUITE so hard!
mortonjag 2007-05-24 12:03:42
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 24 2007, 11:09 AM) [snapback]277427[/snapback]
Try: "Republican Socialist that hates Alex Salmond".

mortonjag 2007-05-24 12:06:51
QUOTE(WillowMan @ May 24 2007, 11:49 AM) [snapback]277436[/snapback]
Yep through a microscope and that was AFTER the tweezers and cheese were involved tongue.gif

Electron microscope? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-24 12:08:35 I can't quote prices offhand but the Mega size Tesco stores are very competitive for this kind of thing.
mortonjag 2007-05-24 12:10:10
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 24 2007, 10:06 AM) [snapback]277413[/snapback]
whs

WTF is whs?
mortonjag 2007-05-24 12:13:40
QUOTE(lush @ May 24 2007, 11:11 AM) [snapback]277428[/snapback]
I couldnt give a s*** if you were pulling me up on a spelling mistake. Putting someone on ignore because they post more than you, what can i say. Play nice boys. rolleyes.gif

Lush you're maybe confusing the poor little lad with your screen address-for all I know he IS correct in the language of fairy tales.
mortonjag 2007-05-24 13:06:05
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 24 2007, 12:19 PM) [snapback]277452[/snapback]
Mortonjag, for an old fellah you're certainly observant.

mortonjag 2007-05-24 13:10:05
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 24 2007, 12:25 PM) [snapback]277453[/snapback]
away and crow to someone else ya old coot rolleyes.gif

moustache beak caws eye knee Da peac*ck
mortonjag 2007-05-24 13:14:12
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ May 24 2007, 12:35 PM) [snapback]277455[/snapback]
not too sure exactly where you are coming from with that comment about wee lassies going topless. are you somehow comparing wearing an OF top top scapa with being a Pedo? What the hell are you on about?

Quite simply topless teenagers are of little interest to me but would provoke a variable reaction from most of the younger fans. Similarly some may be unfazed by OF tops but they REALLY get on MY TITS.
mortonjag 2007-05-24 13:17:49
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ May 24 2007, 12:15 PM) [snapback]277451[/snapback]
Todays Daily Record - could this be connected?!
DUNDEE UNITED were last night close to capturing Polish keeper Lucasz Zaluska to spark their summer signing spree.

Tannadice boss Craig Levein has made the 24-year-old from Korona Kielce his first priority to fill the void left by departed keeper Derek Stillie and has been working round the clock to secure his signature.

All things are possible! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-24 13:23:21
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 24 2007, 01:21 PM) [snapback]277464[/snapback]
what he says?

TYVM smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-24 13:26:02
QUOTE(InverAlly @ May 24 2007, 01:23 PM) [snapback]277466[/snapback]
If it was you own...

unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-24 13:40:23 I find it a very contentious issue. I have family members and friends (of both sexes) who are gay, yet I find it difficult to get my head round the concept of two gay people being 'Husband and Wife', despite being totally in favour of any loving couple living as man and wife, irrespective of sexual orientation, and having the same fiscal rights as heterosexual couples.

I suspect I'm just not broad minded enough on this issue. What do the rest of you make of it?
mortonjag 2007-05-24 13:42:53
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 24 2007, 01:25 PM) [snapback]277467[/snapback]
NB biggrin.gif

YASK wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-24 13:50:18
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 23 2007, 04:46 PM) [snapback]277115[/snapback]
It is that bad, and so is the previous tartan efforts. Stop it now Morton.

Agreed-I thought the last one was slightly more tasteful, but I actually feel embarrassed when I see fellow Ton supporters sporting the current monstrosity.

Another issue I'd paid little attention to is sponsorship-I just sort of accepted that Dougie was peddling his wares and paying for the pleasure, but I did cringe a wee bit at some of the logos.

My partner's not a Ton fan but was at the cup games, and commented that the strips just look cheap and silly, and that the team would have far more kudos and credibility with a household name on the them.
mortonjag 2007-05-24 14:00:32
QUOTE(JonaTon @ May 24 2007, 01:51 PM) [snapback]277480[/snapback]
There obviously is some Scottish talent out there but they aren't going to sign for us they're going to sign up for the big teams and for me McGurn isn't good enough to be first choice in the 1st division.

I didn't hear anyone complaining when we did the same thing with the Danes in the 60's. In fact Hal Stewart is seen as a visionary because of those players.

All that matters is that the guy improves the team.

Not only can Morton benefit from this, but Scottish football in general can. It's perfectly simple-the Poles are used to, and willing to accept a lower standard of living than us-obviously that will change with time, but as it stands it is a fact of life. Instead of having to shell out mega bucks for established 'foreigners', we may be able to tap a seam for a while at least, reducing wages with all the knock on benefits. I don't see it as effective in the longer term-things will gradually find a balance, but in our current situation, we could indeed attempt a mini Polish Invasion'.
mortonjag 2007-05-24 14:03:47
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 24 2007, 01:26 PM) [snapback]277470[/snapback]
What about exchanging the of top for a discount on a morton top.

Surcharge mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-24 14:16:00
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 24 2007, 01:32 PM) [snapback]277472[/snapback]
ever get the feeling this is just us now?

anyway, back on 'topic'...

i was going to chicken out, but the flock have encouraged me to shell out on some more yolks....i'm very talonted you know...

You have a clutch of talons, and all the birds tail you beak caws deep down they're eagle for a shag.
mortonjag 2007-05-24 14:17:42
QUOTE(alexp @ May 24 2007, 02:02 PM) [snapback]277484[/snapback]
southend

derby county
mortonjag 2007-05-24 14:22:09
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ May 24 2007, 01:50 PM) [snapback]277477[/snapback]
I think you've answered your own misgivings right there. Thats what its all about. They do not marry anyway, its a civil partnership.

I've no problems with it all.
as long as both chicks are fit! wink.gif

You are correct, so why do I cringe just a smidgin when I see one of those ceremonies? I'm wrong-but I do. Maybe I AM kiddin' myself on and I'm just a biased old homophobic fudd. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-24 14:23:06
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ May 24 2007, 02:20 PM) [snapback]277492[/snapback]
Better than a "nae sex" marriage.

Our thoughts are with you at this time HT.
mortonjag 2007-05-24 14:29:02
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ May 24 2007, 02:24 PM) [snapback]277498[/snapback]
It is a household name!
Every kid in country knows and usually likes Millions. As Pedro says Millions sponsored Sponge Bob on Nickelodeon

Indeed, but kids of that age are not the ideal target for a FOOTBALL sponsor-I'm giving you the unbiased opinion of somebody who doesn't know the Greenock area, or anything about Golden Casket, and who was also envisaging us being in division one next term.
mortonjag 2007-05-24 14:30:24
QUOTE(alexp @ May 24 2007, 02:22 PM) [snapback]277495[/snapback]
york

kilmarnock
mortonjag 2007-05-24 14:31:54
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 24 2007, 02:23 PM) [snapback]277497[/snapback]
You said it. wink.gif

I did indeed and you spotted the 'maybe' I hope! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-24 14:55:32
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ May 24 2007, 02:32 PM) [snapback]277504[/snapback]
To say you are homophobic technically means you have a fear. Im sure you're not scared of pouves .

You just dont like what they do to each others bottoms.
Sounds fair enough smile.gif

No RH I'm not at all scared of 'pouffes'-but 'homophobia's generally taken now to mean disapproval.

I honestly don't believe lesbian or gay sexual activity is wrong or immoral-I mean that genuinely, and as I said, I have family and friends in each category, but I just can't get my head round two guys, or girls going through all the rigmarole of a ceremony I've associated with heterosexuality all my life.

It's just how I feel, and I can't help it I'm afraid.

mortonjag 2007-05-24 15:06:16
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 24 2007, 03:05 PM) [snapback]277523[/snapback]
osasuna

alloa
mortonjag 2007-05-24 15:18:32
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 24 2007, 02:54 PM) [snapback]277518[/snapback]
well that is eggcellent news, with my hawk eyes i can't miss...i'll be p-p-p-p-picking them up in no time

What eggsactly is your favourite type of tit-there's a pair of wee blue tits bobb about outside my window every morning-they're so c*cky but the redbreasts take a fair beating when it comes down to it. I used to live in wrented property and what a lark-I was flying every other night on cheep woodpecker I got from heron the next flight of stairs.
mortonjag 2007-05-24 15:25:31
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 24 2007, 02:49 PM) [snapback]277512[/snapback]
When I showed the strip at work most people did recognise the Millions logo, some laughed, some couldn't believe we were sponsored by Millions, until I explained the connection... then they made fat jokes about Greenock rolleyes.gif

That's the whole point-a sponsor's name on a shirt must have as wide an appeal as possible if it's to generate a decent 'take' for the club. I wonder how many away fans really see it as a 'household' name like Carling, or NTL, or Adidas, or Nike, or even for that matter Tampax-though I can't see any advertising agency wanting to plug that at a football match! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-24 15:28:49
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 24 2007, 03:08 PM) [snapback]277526[/snapback]
Northampton Town

Norwich City
mortonjag 2007-05-24 15:43:50
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 24 2007, 03:30 PM) [snapback]277537[/snapback]
Sssh, I'm trying to get Mortonjag to post his wee poem again.

An ailing wee Tim named Sick Mick
went in for an 'op' on his dick.
He asked of the surgeon,
'Am ah still a virgin-
see 'Clyde' has twyst gave it a lick'?

The doctor sighed 'Michael my lad
I have for you news which is bad.
You left it too late,
I must amputate.
I'm sure that your dog will be glad.

He woke up the following day.
They'd taken his Willie away,
but Father McCann,
a practical man, said
'Mine's free if you really must play'.
mortonjag 2007-05-24 15:49:14
QUOTE(upaclose @ May 24 2007, 03:44 PM) [snapback]277541[/snapback]
I'm sure God loves ginger beers too. After all its a fact that 97% of priests love the boaby.

and the other 3% are liars? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-24 15:51:20
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 24 2007, 03:46 PM) [snapback]277544[/snapback]
Yeovil

Leeds United
mortonjag 2007-05-24 16:09:26
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 24 2007, 03:59 PM) [snapback]277554[/snapback]
ach geese peace, toucan play at this game and i'm not budgieing. i canaryly did but i'm not finching from a mynah argument

The stork of booze is poultry, and yer bird's got thrush, so grab yer Doc Martins, put yer capon, stop grousing, and lets get goosed.
mortonjag 2007-05-24 16:26:57
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 24 2007, 04:06 PM) [snapback]277561[/snapback]
A dirty paedo bast*rd named jag,
Cleans his cheesy auld nob with a rag,
He waits in the dark, wi' a grin like a shark
And kidnaps your weans with a bag... unsure.gif

2/10 for that-must improve! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-24 17:03:58
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 24 2007, 04:40 PM) [snapback]277595[/snapback]
Considerably better than yours anyway, jaggy.

Aye , but you marked the score card using your rookie's maximum handicap.
mortonjag 2007-05-24 17:20:11
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 24 2007, 04:53 PM) [snapback]277612[/snapback]
Wit? I never once said I was a good Catholic, I'm lapsed. laugh.gif

It's easier to wind up the anti-Catholic hegemony [yourself among them] on this forum if you masquerade as wee Joe Holy.

Mick if that's a serious statement, you've just made an utter fool of yourself. The whole point of my original poem was that there is NOT an anti -Catholic clique on the forum. The moderator and I had to go to some length to clear up a misunderstanding between us caused by another poster making similar untrue allegations.
By all means continue with the wind ups, but play by the forum rules. 'Rape' of ones religious convictions by others is a crime. Deliberate false accusations of such are worse.

I take it you are clearly and unequivocally stating now that you have not been, nor ever will be offended by the regular 'Proddy/Catholic banter, as you are 'a lapsed Catholic'. That tends to remove your raison d'etre on a Morton website. Hopefully we''ll see much less of you in the future.
mortonjag 2007-05-24 17:31:05
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 24 2007, 04:37 PM) [snapback]277590[/snapback]
we certainly be able to absorb any bleeding abuse that came our way

wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-24 17:37:05
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ May 24 2007, 05:07 PM) [snapback]277617[/snapback]
I don't see what away fans have got to do with it? If people haven't heard of Millions is because they don't have or know kids and not because they don't live in Greenock. Its a nationally (UK) known sweet and you can buy them all over the place. Theres a shop near me in Glasgow that has a huge Millions shelving display type thing.

RH, all I'm saying is that a sponsor wants his product to be seen by as many folk as possible EVERYWHERE the strip is used. If he's only got it on the home strip, he's hoping for a big turnout of away fans. The biggest hurdle for any advertiser is to reach your target market.

It's a bit naive to say that Millions is a 'household name' throughout Britain. Golden casket markets well, but at the end of the day is a VERY small fish in a huge pond. If I say 'who are Cadbury's' to anybody of any age , or sex, in Trafalgar square, there's a high probability they'll know, but 'Millions'?
mortonjag 2007-05-24 17:45:55 My all time favourite

I'll tell you a story uncanny
of ill fate which befell an old Granny.
She sat on her chair
when her dentures were there,
and bit herself right on the f@nny
mortonjag 2007-05-24 18:02:19
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 24 2007, 05:51 PM) [snapback]277626[/snapback]
Always liked Lee Evans'

There was a young man from Goshum
Who took out his boll0cks to wash them
His wife said Jack
If you don't put them back
I'll stand on the b*****ds and squash'em.

Not a limerick puggsy but an all time classic IMO.

The tale of the hump on the camel is stranger than anyone thinks,
for once on a morning primaeval it attempted to bugger the Sphinx.
The Sphinx's posterior aperture was full of the sands of the Nile,
which explains both the hump on the camel, and the Sphinx's inscrutable smile.
mortonjag 2007-05-24 18:03:52
QUOTE(alexp @ May 24 2007, 05:10 PM) [snapback]277619[/snapback]
northwich

hartlepool
mortonjag 2007-05-24 18:12:09
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 24 2007, 04:34 PM) [snapback]277587[/snapback]
that's very pheasant of you, i shall puffin my chest, crane my neck and warble like a turkey!

Just scrambled back to have a swift gander at your post. Was visiting Albert Ross in the geriatric wing.
mortonjag 2007-05-24 18:25:44
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 24 2007, 06:08 PM) [snapback]277633[/snapback]
That come just after the Toast to the Lassies and Tam O'Shanter? A true classic!

Surely some of our posters could make up something about the Ton-maybe

Our Chairman is D. D. F. Rae,
whom everyone's bound to obey,
but if one grows weary
and queries his theory,
he snaps 'Don't ask, DO what I say'.

His mate is a gentleman-Arthur.
A man whom we'd all go quite far for,
but his hitching of lifts
caused bitching and rifts,
and that's what we bought him the car for.


mortonjag 2007-05-24 18:48:05
QUOTE(arklesTON @ May 24 2007, 06:35 PM) [snapback]277649[/snapback]
Stenhousemuir

Ross County
mortonjag 2007-05-24 19:00:19
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ May 24 2007, 05:54 PM) [snapback]277627[/snapback]
I never really pay attention to the sponsors on shirts. Could you really tell me who sponsored the other second division clubs last year?

If we have Millions for next season then does it not compare to other 1st division clubs shirt sponsors? I really don't know the answer. Calling on anoraks!!

No, and the reason is that they, just like us, were sponsored by local business-big locally-small otherwise.

Advertising of this type's not like handing out a leaflet which has to be read and its contents digested-it's about reinforcement. If you see 'Millions' on maybe thirty occasions over the course of a season, it might or might not subconsciously stick in your long term memory. On the other hand, if you see 'Nike' (for example) the same number of times, AND on tele, AND in the papers, AND on buses AND in other sponsored events, etc., there comes a point when like it or not, you've stored the information.

From a different angle, having a major sponsor's name definitely increases the club's profile, simply because humans are a gullible lot-sad-but it's true.
mortonjag 2007-05-24 19:23:16 [code][/code]
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 24 2007, 06:32 PM) [snapback]277646[/snapback]
So they're Rednecks, then? laugh.gif

'Redneck' doesn't have connotations for me Trick, but if you mean that they are indescribably amoral, vile, putrifying, faeculent, flea infested, interbreeding, coprophagistic apologies for the contents of a neglected cesspool, that would have been a good description fifty years ago.

Since then I'm afraid it's 'gone to the dogs', and their perpetually untimely descent to Hades has, it's believed, persuaded Lucifer to take an extended vacation.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 04:49:16
QUOTE(Savo @ May 24 2007, 11:32 PM) [snapback]277751[/snapback]
------------------Wylie---------------------

Collins------Reid----Hunter-------Holmes

Mahood----McInnes---Lindberg----McNeil

-----------Mathie-----Alexander----------
Subs: Boswell/Maxwell, Turner, Lilley, Rajamaki, Fenwick

Totally agree with the floydpink's remarks above regarding Flipper. He shouldn't still have been on the pitch the day he sustained the injury, he'd already taken a right bad one. Not sure if it was fat George McCluskey who did the damage. I'm pretty sure he did get Hamilton's equaliser that day though.

As for the screamer at Sinclair Street, that was Hunter's very first(?) game back against Brechin, a 1-1 draw, January 94, I think (fat Marc Millar scored an absolute cracker for Brechin that day too). I thought Flipper got another couple of goals for us during his time though?

I seem to have forgotton more than I've remembered. This is a good thread. Aye-I remember Jim now- 100% graft all the time-EXACTLY the type of player who'd have got the best out of the present lot.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 04:53:28
QUOTE(edd @ May 25 2007, 04:41 AM) [snapback]277784[/snapback]
if he wins the case then he'll just get compensation, the court can't force them to employ him and i doubt either party will want to work with each other after having to go to court to sort out a dispute.

Facts are chiels that winna ding edd!

Frailty, thy name is woman human, and presumably the Clyde 'faithful', will now do to Miller what their 'doon the water' counterparts have done to Mathers. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-25 04:55:27
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 25 2007, 12:18 AM) [snapback]277765[/snapback]
Yes, you can say that..... Look at Wikipedia's write-up on Rednecks. You'll notice that there's reference to a Scottish-Irish entymology in there. wink.gif

mmm -maybe I should take legal advice first! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-25 04:59:48
QUOTE(standman @ May 24 2007, 08:02 PM) [snapback]277672[/snapback]
Why can't you have a penis twelve inches long ?

Coz then it would be a foot !!!

This joke also works for why can't you have a nose twelve inches long !

Coz then it would be a 'stand' man!
mortonjag 2007-05-25 05:09:57
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 24 2007, 11:48 PM) [snapback]277756[/snapback]
I wouldn't have left them alone . Who knows how many times over the coarse of their holiday they had done this . The McCanns will probably never admit to doing it before and there are doubts about their recollection of how often they went back to check on the safety of their children .
The media are guilty of steering public sympathy towards the parents .
On the investigation , Portugese laws on what can be divulged is different from our experience so the British Consul should be explaining proceedure to the family .
I think the money would be better given to an organised charity such as the NSPCC or similar .
I don't believe they will find the little girl , if she is still alive too much time has past with no real sightings . We don't know if the police have carried out searches of the local wastelands or how strong the tidal currents are .

The truth is out there. We only have British media spin which has capitalised, as always, on misfortune.

The McCanns are culpable at least of distraught muddle headedness-'flinging' money at a 'solution', has probably been just as realistic as mass prayer for a miracle.

Are they culpable of more? After the facts have finally been unravelled we can pronounce our individual judgements.

Seems like judgement has already been made-an audience with the Pope. Strange that the Holy Father should risk his reputation for infallibility when the matter's still sub judice.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 05:16:54
QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 25 2007, 12:48 AM) [snapback]277771[/snapback]
IMO that's the only solution although in the past I've tried to start anti-OF songs to be met with a muted response.
Davie - it's not about whether you or I care about what the kids wear, it's the club's good name being dragged through the gutter when fans of opposing teams see the cowshed sprinled with OF tops. The problem may well get worse if something isn't done now. WTF happens if/when we get to the SPL? I'll be f***ed if I'm standing next to an OF fan when we're in direct opposition. It doesn't happen at Love Street. Why? Cappielow is the worst ground I've witnessed for OF apologists. Maybe you don't care about being a tagged "bigot without the bus fare" but I f***ing do. It's got to be dealt with.
Puggsy, I've tried this approach before but to be honest I wasn't exactly comfy with having a go at a child.

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Five pages correctly summarised in five words.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 05:38:49
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 24 2007, 11:12 PM) [snapback]277743[/snapback]
I think the term civil partnerships was bourne to stop the religious brigade from hijacking the change . It is hypocritical of any religion to exclude anyone from all areas of their faith on a sexual basis when there are gay priests and ministers .
It smacks of don't do as we do , do as we say .
Personally I can't understand the objections to what is between those 2 individuals as long as it is their free will . I have a bigger problem with arranged marriages than gay ones .

Marriage -in this country at least, is traditionally governed by the Church. The notion that sex must equate to procreation, however, remains only in the dusty recesses of Catholic tradition.

Now the cart is before the horse. Laws which were designed to fit with the concept of an 'Institution made in Heaven', have got lost somewhere along the way.

Marriage is for moral purposes an anachronism-maybe that's why I find it so hard to get my head round 'gays' being forced to hitch up JUST to gain equal legal rights because of an equally archaic judicial system.

Come to think of it, the 'gays' are actually the ones 'havin the laff'-signing the register-signing on the burroo-same principle-no signature, no dosh. I have NO problem with that, but wanting to be married in traditional style with all the trappings-at vast expense just in order to demonstrate that your 'the same' when you're plainly not is-well QUEER.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 05:44:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 25 2007, 05:15 AM) [snapback]277790[/snapback]
Why does a man have a hole in the end of his penis ?

You DO!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-25 05:55:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 25 2007, 05:20 AM) [snapback]277792[/snapback]
A mother took her 16 year old son to the doctor because was the same size as his 10 year old brother.

The doctor prescribed plenty of hot buttered toast for breakfast as an aid to normal growth.

At breakfast, the next morning, the boy was confronted with a huge mound of hot buttered toast.

But, as he reached fir it, his mother slapped his hand away, saying, “Leave your father’s breakfast alone.â€
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A middle aged lady, frustrated by her husband's lovemaking lassitude got a supply of viagra, crushed some tablets up, and mixed them with the butter in the fridge.

As she lay expectantly in bed, she heard peals of uncontrollable laughter from downstairs. 'Darling she cried, your supper's on the kitchen table. Finish it and and come upstairs'.

'I'm not hungry' he replied, 'and I'm not tired either'.

Angry and frustrated she retorted-'And what's so bloody funny'?

Choking back the tears he chortled-'There's a sausage trying to get up the dog's arse'.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 06:06:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 25 2007, 05:31 AM) [snapback]277793[/snapback]
most lowland gorillas are the same, but will sometimes jump in small puddles and splash about to prove how hard they are. but i think there are also isolated lowland gorillas who are comfortable in water, i saw a documentary on them a while back.
Is there still a colony of lowland gorillas near Auchtermuchty ?

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Anything's possible NewTon-only last week I spotted a fox literally strolling across the busy Ayr Road at three in the afternoon, and of course construction work is well ahead of schedule at the new Drive Through Safari Park just South West of Glasgow Airport.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 06:32:50
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 24 2007, 04:29 PM) [snapback]277584[/snapback]
Been popping up everywhere today, lets have a thread dedicated to yours!

The following thread's about limerick's
So morton jag can play with his dick
He'll write them all out
And sit there and pout
Waiting for a sex call from Sick Mick

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Concrete parachute-eh puggsy rolleyes.gif where are all the wannabe Wordsworths and budding Byrons?


Here's how to write a simple bit of verse

Think of a rhyming word for 'Ton'
'John would be fine, or even 'scone'
Put the word 'Ton' at the end of a line,
Finish the next with 'scone' and it's fine.
The problem with Limericks is that they must scan properly-a good demonstration is

There was a young man from Calcutta
who had a t terrible stutter.
At b breakfast he said
pass the b b b bread
and the b b b b b b butter.

It looks like complete rubbish, but if you can read it exactly as it reads, that's how a Limerick scans properly-so



Young puggs, a supporter of 'Ton'
was miffed when his mates called him John.
Upset by their jokes
he grumped to his folks,
and his Mother said, 'Who stole your scone'?
mortonjag 2007-05-25 06:32:54
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 24 2007, 04:29 PM) [snapback]277584[/snapback]
Been popping up everywhere today, lets have a thread dedicated to yours!

The following thread's about limerick's
So morton jag can play with his dick
He'll write them all out
And sit there and pout
Waiting for a sex call from Sick Mick

tongue.gif

Concrete parachute-eh puggsy rolleyes.gif where are all the wannabe Wordsworths and budding Byrons?


Here's how to write a simple bit of verse

Think of a rhyming word for 'Ton'
'John would be fine, or even 'scone'
Put the word 'Ton' at the end of a line,
Finish the next with 'scone' and it's fine.
The problem with Limericks is that they must scan properly-a good demonstration is

There was a young man from Calcutta
who had a t terrible stutter.
At b breakfast he said
pass the b b b bread
and the b b b b b b butter.

It looks like complete rubbish, but if you can read it exactly as it reads, that's how a Limerick scans properly-so



Young puggs, a supporter of 'Ton'
was miffed when his mates called him John.
Upset by their jokes
he grumped to his folks,
and his Mother said, 'Who stole your scone'?
mortonjag 2007-05-25 06:42:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 25 2007, 06:32 AM) [snapback]277800[/snapback]
the new Drive Through Safari Park just South West of Glasgow Airport.
Would that be east of Linwood ?

and north east of Elderslie ?

and its main "attraction" is a colony of inbred skunks ?

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The VERY one, though the weasel keeper reports that a population boom has forced them to integrate the species. After a long debate over 'Wunk' or Skeasel', they settled on Lavetties as the name of the new strain.

Lavetties can be easily distinguished from other species by their prominent bellies and somewhat vacant gaze, but when it comes to feeding time they are anything but backward.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 06:50:38
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 25 2007, 06:22 AM) [snapback]277798[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

have a wee look, mate - you may have a hole also ??

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All my life I've wondered how the piss got out NewTon. I've studied innumerable theories-in fact I even completed a thesis entitled 'Making one's water-fact, or illusion', for which I received a doctorate at Stirling,Paisley a University.

And there it is-in the immortal words of Archie Meads


Eureka!
mortonjag 2007-05-25 06:58:10
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 25 2007, 06:49 AM) [snapback]277805[/snapback]
Lavetties can be easily distinguished from other species by their prominent bellies and somewhat vacant gaze, but when it comes to feeding time they are anything but backward.
I assume that these lavetties are carnivorous.

If the population boom continues, will sterilisation be required ???

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Carnivores by preference, but omnivorous by nature, Lavetties are almost unparalleled for their proclivity. I understand that a mass cull has had to be arranged before the situation goes totally out of control.

Apparently a well known Greenock councillor's help has been enlisted on account of his experience in breeding vermin.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 07:30:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 25 2007, 07:27 AM) [snapback]277808[/snapback]
Why does a man have a hole in the end of his penis ?
To get a bit of air to his brain.

Had to think hard before that came to me.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 07:50:25
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 25 2007, 07:40 AM) [snapback]277811[/snapback]
An English businessman was in Hong Kong for a few weeks and after each day’s meetings, he’d sneak off to a brothel or a girlie bar.

After a couple of days, he began to worry about the appearance of his c***.

It was a very strange colour..

So, we went to an English doctor who specialised in ex-pat business executives.
.
“Oh dear, oh dear†said the doctor, “a classic case of Hong Kong Dong.â€

“ I’m afraid that there is no alternative but to amputate.â€

The English businessman was appalled and insisted on a second opinion.

So, we went to a Chinese doctor, who specialised in acupuncture and herbal medicine.

“What do you think, doctor?†as the terrified Englishman.

“The other doctor said that it’s Hong Kong Dong and that I will have to have it amputated.â€

The Chinese doctor gave him a beatific smile and shook his head.

“Not to worry. Not necessarily.â€

“You mean you don’t have to amputate ?â€

“No, with Hong Kong Dong ...
it will drop off on its own in a couple of days’ time.â€

The old Billy Connolly one about the guy who goes to the Doc complaining of being unable to pee cleanly. 'It jusht shpraysh all over the playsh' he lisped.

The Doctor carefully examined the offending organ and exclaimed, 'Man, your Willie's full of holes', proceeding to scribble on a pad.

'Ish that a preshcripshon' he asked.

'No', replied the Doc, 'it's the address of a clarinet player. He'll teach you how to hold it properly'.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 07:52:38
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 25 2007, 07:49 AM) [snapback]277814[/snapback]
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4558461/

Dallas Zoo officials said they can’t explain how a 300-pound gorilla escaped from his enclosure, injuring four people before he was shot to death.
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Cheap at the price by any standards I'd say.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 07:56:22
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 25 2007, 07:43 AM) [snapback]277813[/snapback]
Old jag taught young Puggs to Rhyme
He done it in a record time
But what he forgot
Is that he never taught
That Morton should be in each line

Woooo! biggrin.gif

9/10, and an excellent attempt-you only lost the rhythm slightly-how about---

Old jag taught young PuggsY to Rhyme-that finishes it!
mortonjag 2007-05-25 08:03:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 25 2007, 07:42 AM) [snapback]277812[/snapback]
It's an Inverclyde Now problem Mick, always have had it.
Oh and FYI something everyone may find interesting.

The provests son is a board member. The question is who...and it aint Sick Mick, and I aint telling tongue.gif

mmm-interesting-I had a wee gander at the surnames of all the labour cooncillors looking for one I could perhaps link with our intellectually and pathologically challenged young poster.


Unfortunately spoiled for choice, I'd say. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-25 08:07:16
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 25 2007, 08:03 AM) [snapback]277819[/snapback]
What is the definition of a man ?

A life support system for a penis.

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You and old Freud would have made good bedfellows NewTon.

A serious question.

Do you believe that 'sex' is the most powerful force in the human mind?
mortonjag 2007-05-25 08:43:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 25 2007, 07:29 AM) [snapback]277809[/snapback]
I even completed a thesis entitled 'Making one's water-fact, or illusion', for which I received a doctorate at Stirling,Paisley a University.
[b]are you taking the urine ?[/b]

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I refuse point blankly to drink my own waste products NewTon, though you may be aware that's there's a popular belief that it may be good for you. I recently watched a T.V. programme about it, and surprise, surprise, it was a load of pish.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 08:56:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 25 2007, 08:19 AM) [snapback]277822[/snapback]
Naw - it oscilliates between sex, greed and fear.

Interesting-I'd go with nutrition, followed closely by comfort, with sex some way behind- in terms of basics, of course, and I'd also venture to suggest that sex is much more about emppowerment than anything to do with love or children.

Anyway the thread's about Willies.

This story's absolutely true. A teenager once came to see me-about 18 yrs old as I recall. The minute he stepped through the door I knew he was going to discuss a 'personal' problem-after a while in the job you just DO.

When I asked 'How can I help', he blushed to the roots of his hair, and blurted out 'It's my penis Doctor- it's been on and off for weeks'-, and of course continued with the details.

It took some effort not to burst out laughing, but to my credit he remained completely unaware of his gaffe.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 08:59:06
QUOTE(NonTon @ May 25 2007, 08:41 AM) [snapback]277823[/snapback]
Get it up ye Puggs, I didn't want to tell them for fear of Sick Mick style nationalist retribution :-p

Yeah, I'm Michael McCormick the younger.

Our thoughts are with you at this sad time.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 09:15:56
QUOTE(leyTON @ May 24 2007, 10:38 PM) [snapback]277729[/snapback]
notice salmond talking to her maj the day
something that has always concerned me is what i believe to be salmond's preferred option of an oz - style half baked independence with the queen still in place which i am against
wonder what some of our regular nationalist posters think?

IF
mortonjag 2007-05-25 09:17:09
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 24 2007, 10:39 PM) [snapback]277731[/snapback]
You know he's got a thing for the auld burds laugh.gif

Which rhymes with your haunle.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 09:20:41
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 25 2007, 09:01 AM) [snapback]277830[/snapback]
Personally I do not support the concept of monarchy - they are just ordinary people who happen to have ancestors who had the biggest army. I would not defer to them, nor would I go out of my way to be rude to them. They are just human beings, and the infrastructure of "worship" that has built up around them is as ridiculous as religion. I am not a subject, I am a citizen of Scotland.

It should be noted that the frequent statements in the press that the SNP want to "break up the united kingdom" are completely wrong. The SNP want to end the Treaty of Union (1707) which is a completely different matter from the Union of the Crowns (1603). The unionists obfuscate for their own reasons of course. To be accurate, the press should say that the SNP want to end the Union of the Parliaments, not Crowns.

I'm not a nationalist Alibi-well not in the commonly accepted sense, but one thing which makes my blood boil is our persistence with that anachronism. I mean no harm to the curent lot-they can't help their heritage, nor for that matter being mostly utter prats, but when Betty pops her clogs, that should be it.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 09:23:05
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 25 2007, 09:01 AM) [snapback]277829[/snapback]
Apart from the Port mob

Sinn Féin ( Sin Feen )

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I have this vague recollection of the Kilmacolm Young Team cool.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-25 09:51:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 25 2007, 09:31 AM) [snapback]277839[/snapback]
James Pacenza's lawyers will argue in court that their client was using the internet to self-medicate as a way of controlling his post traumatic stress disorder.

They will also argue that Mr Pacenza's claimed addiction to adult internet sites should be treated in the same way as other employees' addictions to drugs or alcohol.
Looks to me that IBM is in a hole.

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Aye, right.

So he's still suffering from PTSS almost 40 years on, and it's presumably SO resistant to normal therapy, that as a last resort he applied for a job with IBM, just so that he could use the best available computer equipment for his self medication, but now the poor sod's become 'addicted' to adult sex sites-mmm unsure.gif

Alcoholics don't use alcohol as treatment for anything, nor do drug addicts-their habits may be seen to soften some of life's blows, but that's never 'therapy'-they are simply and unfortunately 'hooked'.

The lawyers may actually blow the case by confusing two separate issues, rather than concentrating on one of them.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 09:55:18
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ May 25 2007, 09:50 AM) [snapback]277842[/snapback]
wink.gif my favourite is...
there once was a man from china,
he was a great mountain climber,
he fell off a rock,
and busted his c***,
and now he has got a v*****

===================
2 points here...

*1 - c*** aint a swearword all the time, what if i was talking about a chicken
*2 - v***** is never a bad word...same way Penis aint a bad word.

Ah this place is going to f***

Indeed Thrax and there is no consistency either; Sc***horpe's naughty, but vaginal's not. The censoring seems to have almost been done randomly by some daft knobend who's unable to distinguish anatomy from vulgarity!
mortonjag 2007-05-25 10:01:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 25 2007, 09:35 AM) [snapback]277840[/snapback]
when Betty pops her clogs,
Aren't her ancestors German, not Dutch ??

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Her old Dutch was Scots!
mortonjag 2007-05-25 10:11:14 My favourite poster's Colkitto.
His brain, it would seem's in his wee toe
It's covered with skin
and he'll never get in
all the things that he's wanting to veto.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 10:20:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 25 2007, 10:10 AM) [snapback]277849[/snapback]
9/16
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I took this line gentlemen. Since it's NEVER entirely possible to identify someone's sexuality by looking at a photograph, I just picked gay, straight, gay, straight, and so on, and lo and behold-I was correct exactly half of the time.

Erm-does that prove anything? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-25 10:29:11
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 25 2007, 10:21 AM) [snapback]277855[/snapback]
The laws of chance plainly. rolleyes.gif

Ha ha Mr Bam-you've been Trolled!

I picked at random and only completed six. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-25 10:31:10
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 25 2007, 10:14 AM) [snapback]277851[/snapback]
Correct, though a pedant would point out that clogs were used throughout Europe, normally with wooden soles but leather uppers. Older boogers on the board may remember clogs becoming a fashion item around 1975.

Indeed, and mine were no stranger to the man with three balls.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 10:42:10
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ May 25 2007, 10:25 AM) [snapback]277856[/snapback]
Cheers for that arklesTON. I'd say Millions sits in there quite nicely, not as well known as Prudential or Optical Express but certainly better known than BB Auto Repair or Purvis Group.

I'm sure I've seen Millions sold in Mallorca as well which would make it marketed Internationally.

Prudential, is a household name in insurance.
Wimpey is a household name in construction.
Optical express is a household name in sight correction.
Millions is a household name in confectionery.

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Just doesn't seem right somehow- Cadbury, Rowntree, Nestle, Lindt etc., certainly are, but as I said before, aware marketing by a tiny local confectionery company can never make it a household name.

You made an excellent point about the other 1st division sponsors-sponsorship's about getting money in, and we MUST do better.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 10:49:13
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 25 2007, 10:34 AM) [snapback]277862[/snapback]
finally gone cuckoo has he? that's what he gets for mockingbirds!

Thank God you've returned swiftly. I thought you'd got caught robin a bank and spent the nightingale.

Anyway, enough of this stonechat-need to sober up for weight waychers to lose some of mallard as my granny coaltit.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 10:52:28
QUOTE(franco @ May 25 2007, 10:40 AM) [snapback]277864[/snapback]
Isn't the last one Tom Robinson, who was gay but changed his mind and decided to be straight instead, married a woman and had children? And wasn't he a complete b*****d for making 'Sing if You're Glad to be Gay' such a catchy song that you couldn't help but sing-a-long with it for the entire chorus while standing in a packed check out queue in tesco's, before realising?

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...and tonight Matthew, I'm going to be.................STRAIGHT.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 10:58:30
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ May 25 2007, 10:52 AM) [snapback]277872[/snapback]
There once was a wee man called Scott
Who'd be good for the Ton, so HE thought
But the baldy wee runt
Turned into a C**t
And with a ball of his sh*ite should be shot!

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To call him a c*nt is unjust.
A reptile or worm if you must-
for c*nts have their uses-
they're fondly called pussies
as you have undoubtedly 'sussed'.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 11:02:19
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 25 2007, 10:59 AM) [snapback]277877[/snapback]
I must admit I did like 2,4,6,8 motorway. Never did manage to swallow "sing if you're glad to be gay".

Robinson does a sterling job as a radio 4 presenter.

Mibbies Marvin Andrews laid hands on Tom and cured him? rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2007-05-25 11:03:52
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ May 25 2007, 10:50 AM) [snapback]277869[/snapback]
has went past McKenzie’s the Butchers bumped in to the big plastic butcher man and still saying sorry laugh.gif laugh.gif

I don't live down there Pedro-any LINKS?
mortonjag 2007-05-25 11:06:18
QUOTE(Up the Ton @ May 25 2007, 10:50 AM) [snapback]277870[/snapback]
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You are a pure roaster

.. thank you, and don't be offended when I say you're welcome to my spit any time.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 11:10:14
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 25 2007, 11:06 AM) [snapback]277884[/snapback]
Check the rolling eyes. See Irony. laugh.gif

semper pecco Mr Bam-my defence-very few posters do the mental double shuffle! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-25 11:15:34
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 25 2007, 11:10 AM) [snapback]277886[/snapback]
Yeah I dove under the radar for a while there, was cracking up so had to thrush off. I've no egrets* though and i'm swaning about the office trying to locate the smell - I think we've got some hummingbirds.
* I had to look that one up

Birds normally macaw the smell. A mynah fault, but toucan really get up the owl nose.My badminton's on the up-fair choughed, and I'll again clutch my racket and hit the shuttle c*ckatoo.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 11:19:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 25 2007, 11:12 AM) [snapback]277889[/snapback]
Gidday Pedro,

Is that the same McKenzie's that were on the east side of Inverkip Street in 1963/1964 ?

Had great ashet pies.

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Sadly the word 'ashet' has largely gone out of common use.

If you say to somebody-what's an ashet, he'll either look blankly or think he's misheard something about the contents of a jobby.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 11:33:45
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 25 2007, 11:15 AM) [snapback]277892[/snapback]
Are you calling me mental ya auld homophobe? ohmy.gif

Robinson has a good website.

Potted bio clicky

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Talking of which,
Mens, mentis, mental.
Dens, dentis, dental.
Lens, lentis, lentil mellow.gif

This bio stuff's just gone crazy-potted heid aye-bio yoghourt maybe-potted bio clicky-yugh.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 11:55:15
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 25 2007, 11:24 AM) [snapback]277895[/snapback]
all this chiffchaff is making me feel like a buzzard, altho i have been raven about it to my mates. this may teal off any moment, but only if we snipe it in the bud

i'm quite eagle to capon though the stork of words is narrow wing. Did you get a free vulture for that night club BTW? That Jodie marsh has a nice pair ot tits-once they get heron the gents won't have dippers for sure. Wouldn't mind falcon her myself!
mortonjag 2007-05-25 11:57:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 25 2007, 11:30 AM) [snapback]277899[/snapback]
goodness, what a coincidence.

By the way, who stole Charles Street ???
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Al fayed
mortonjag 2007-05-25 11:59:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 25 2007, 11:44 AM) [snapback]277909[/snapback]
It's all Greek to me.

First it killed the Romans ...

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Was that Jennings perchance?
mortonjag 2007-05-25 11:59:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 25 2007, 11:44 AM) [snapback]277909[/snapback]
It's all Greek to me.

First it killed the Romans ...

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Was that Jennings perchance?
mortonjag 2007-05-25 12:53:54
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 25 2007, 11:39 AM) [snapback]277906[/snapback]
My onw personal favourite was written about Pierre de Fermat and his last Theorem. I can't be arsed going through why it's so good, cos it would take a bit of an understanding of the story of the last Theorem but for any eggheads amongst you here goes,

"My butter, garcon, is writ large in!"
A diner was heard to be chargin'.
"I HAD to write there,"
Exclaimed waiter Pierre,
"I couldn't find room in the margarine."

TonInDublin

From margin-marginal-seat

I sat next to the Duchess at tea-
it was just as I thought it would be.
Her rumblings internal...................................................(or abdominal)
Were something infernal,...............................................(or phenomenal).
and everyone thought it was me.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 15:12:29
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 25 2007, 02:33 PM) [snapback]277973[/snapback]
Only two o' the auld bassas.

It is touching.

Is that why the Jagerneister was asking about Civil Partnerships? unsure.gif

Are you calling NewTon a pouffe?
mortonjag 2007-05-25 15:27:25
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 25 2007, 02:07 PM) [snapback]277958[/snapback]
Wrong again MJ. Born in England.........me old son.. tongue.gif

She was of Scottish ancestry-you of course choose to split hairs as usual in your Procrustean crusade.

Incidentally, the place of birth did NOT define the nationality in 1900.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 15:38:15
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ May 25 2007, 11:07 AM) [snapback]277885[/snapback]
I dont think you realise the size of the company. To sponsor Sponge Bob on Nickelodeon was a major coup. I cant get the link to work but I found this within seconds on Google.

In 2004, 9.7million viewers watched SpongeBob on Nickelodeon channels, ... show have included the Scottish sweets brand Millions, and Bell's Cheese Dippers.

I'm fully aware of the size of the company Real Hoops. With an annual turnover of £16 million (only four times what my son's wee business does), calling it a household name is silly. The household names in confectionery spend vastly more that that each year on advertising alone.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 15:41:34
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ May 25 2007, 02:55 PM) [snapback]277981[/snapback]
sedition!

it's been like that forever. i've given up on the club shop altogether. i was in last season for the first time in 3 years and they had a choice of two scarves, one woolen, blue and white panels, one cotton/polyester, greenock morton written on it. whoo.

reckon morton have missed out on tens of thousands since dougie took over because the merchandising is so inept. maybe they're so impressed with the takings from the hospitality that they can't be arsed selling us anything we can keep.

Millions perhaps? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-25 15:44:23
QUOTE(Up the Ton @ May 25 2007, 03:15 PM) [snapback]277993[/snapback]
Through a strange twist of fate it seems that I'm going to be in Greenock tonight, does any of the regular posters on the forum wish to meet up for a few drinks in the town ? ......

Brass f*cking neck-no doubt 'through a strange twist of fate' you'll have lost your wallet on the train.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 15:54:47
QUOTE(mortonjag @ May 24 2007, 06:25 PM) [snapback]277640[/snapback]
Surely some of our posters could make up something about the Ton-maybe

Our Chairman is D. D. F. Rae,
whom everyone's bound to obey,
but if one grows weary
and queries his theory,
he snaps 'Don't ask, DO what I say'.

His mate is a gentleman-Arthur.
A man whom we'd all go quite far for,
but his hitching of lifts
caused bitching and rifts,
and that's what we bought him the car for.

mortonjag 2007-05-25 15:58:19 Our manager's Jim McInally-
on the field he was never a wally,
but sadly it seems
that when picking the teams
he's worse than this poster at ballet.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 16:19:20
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 25 2007, 02:17 PM) [snapback]277962[/snapback]
Thank you- you caught that. laugh.gif

Radio Four right wing?

Away man, the only station that treats its listeners as sentient beings.

... the others presumably broadcasting to deaf ears.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 16:29:27
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 25 2007, 12:16 PM) [snapback]277930[/snapback]
the bill was too steep and i was worried what the beaks would say when i craned my neck to make bluetit jokes. she's quite avian person i find, i duck when i see her!

You eggspect me to believe that! You'd love to nestle between her tits and finch off with a shag.

I suspect you'd put up a starling performance and Mr Gillon would drake in the profits.

mortonjag 2007-05-25 17:47:36
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ May 25 2007, 04:58 PM) [snapback]278047[/snapback]
OK so its down to the definition of the term "household Name". Can we just agree its still not a bad sponsor to have compared to some 1st Division teams.

I agree entirely, but as in everything else Rae does, his own ego comes before our interests. We could do FAR better, not just in the credibility stakes, but also in sponsorship income.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 17:50:49
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ May 25 2007, 05:40 PM) [snapback]278061[/snapback]
FROM P&B

GRETNA have opened talks to offer a joint season ticket for Motherwell fans next season.

The SPL newcomers are preparing for life away from their own Raydale Park as their top-flight games will be staged at Fir Park. Gretna fans face a 160-mile round trip for home matches and there are fears of poor crowds.

But the promoted club last night revealed they have started discussions about the possibility of enticing Well fans to watch them when Maurice Malpas' team are on long-distance away trips.

Plans are at an eary stage but Gretna chief executive Graeme Muir last night outlined the idea. Muir said: "People want to watch SPL football every week.

"Brooks Mileson, myself and Motherwell are trying to figure out how we could do it.

"If Motherwell are at Aberdeen, for example, some of the fans who don't want to travel might prefer to watch Gretna play the likes of Hibs.
***********

"There are complications. For example, what would happen when Motherwell play us? Which tickets would supporters use?
"Both clubs are trying to get their heads around that but if I was a football supporter, I would understand what we are trying to do.
"I come from Dumfries and, if we are not playing, I'll always go to watch Queen of the South if they have a game."

mmm..and how those chickens are coming home to roost. GIRUY Mileson-either that or buy a proper football club before you're bled dry by your own stupidity.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 17:52:15
QUOTE(NonTon @ May 25 2007, 05:51 PM) [snapback]278065[/snapback]
Yeah, the food's pretty damn good. Pricey though.

NonTon-just to say I've p.m.'d you.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 18:25:44
QUOTE(NonTon @ May 25 2007, 05:51 PM) [snapback]278066[/snapback]
Nope...where would you get that idea?

Where ever did you get the idea that Colkitto has strange ideas? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-25 18:33:18
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 25 2007, 04:43 PM) [snapback]278038[/snapback]
I certainly have to gullp down plenty of ale at the Golden Goose to nestle up with her. i'm more of a blackbird fan myself!
Keep your beak out of this, it only eggs us on...

Eggsactly-we'll not chicken out for any owl poster-I 'm having a bowl of corncrakes and hatching a plan.He can grouse if he likes-WE begannet.

mortonjag 2007-05-25 18:40:52
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 25 2007, 04:54 PM) [snapback]278044[/snapback]
Erm AYE, she was English,born in England, therefore she is English as in not Scottish laugh.gif

Are we talking ethnicity, nationality, dual nationality, adoptive nationality, or just plain Colkitto rubbish.

In 1900 you could CORRECTLY state on a legal document:

Place of birth -London
Nationality-Scots

AND, young CLAYMORE C0CK, if your maw had been on holiday in Mongolia when you popped out unexpectedly, by your own definition you'd be a MONGOL.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 18:45:06
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ May 25 2007, 06:30 PM) [snapback]278078[/snapback]
Seems like a good idea. Like Midtons says, few will probably take them up on it, but its showing good forward planning.

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mortonjag 2007-05-25 18:48:37
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 25 2007, 06:43 PM) [snapback]278087[/snapback]
He never mentioned "strange" ideas. Stop putting words into his mouth MJ tongue.gif

'Nope....where would you get that idea', he asked, quite clearly indicating puzzlement-that he considered your proposition strange, if not politically devious.

What makes you think a labour cooncillor's son would need words put into his mouth?
mortonjag 2007-05-25 18:51:00
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 25 2007, 06:38 PM) [snapback]278085[/snapback]
Ta much for the info folks.

Going down tomorrow night so i will take on board what you say.

Cheers

Don't bank on your mouth being as big as Chocolate Boy's Gibby-you'll probably have cash left over for a couple of Kebabs! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-25 18:54:20
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 25 2007, 06:48 PM) [snapback]278092[/snapback]
What aload of guff laugh.gif Place of brith London nationality Scots laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Is that what was on her birth certificate ?
She was English and proud. She only stayed here because she had a great big castle to stay in !

She wasn't born in Scotland, she didn't have a Scottish accent....hold on a minute...SHE WASN'T SCOTTISH !!

Classical Colkitto wannabe Salmond spin!

Totally ignores the accuracy of my statement and thinks that as long as he shouts loud and long enough, I'll shut up, and others will believe him.

MONGOL-yes or no-by YOUR definition?
mortonjag 2007-05-25 18:57:03
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 25 2007, 06:51 PM) [snapback]278095[/snapback]
Politically devious ?? Are you a Celtic supporter ?? laugh.gif

YES A ton supporter and a Scot.

What gives me the uneasy feeling that you're about to tell me the 'Scots' were not Celts? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-25 19:03:46
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 25 2007, 06:56 PM) [snapback]278098[/snapback]
Simply answer the question, Did it state on her birth certificate that her nationality was Scottish ?

Even yer mate Bawheid wouldn't scape a barrel's bottom in sheer desperation like you do. Having conceded that Betty's maw was of Scottish Ancestry, I stated that it was legally possible to have been born outside Scotland in 1900 and still be Scots by nationality, though (OBVIOUSLY) not by birth.

YOU then argued that the place of birth defines the nationality, simply because it suits your argument. God forbid that you HAD been born 2" South of the border-you'd probably have topped yourself in shame by now.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 19:07:59
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 25 2007, 07:04 PM) [snapback]278106[/snapback]
Scottish and british or british and Scottish ??

Scots and British and British and Scots.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 19:17:37
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 25 2007, 07:09 PM) [snapback]278109[/snapback]
No desperation from me. You said she was Scottish when she clearly was not. She was born in England and died in England. I was merely pointing out that your statement was false and incorrect.

Almost 4 hours ago I conceded my mistake, while pointing out to you that in 1900 place of birth did not automatically determine nationality.

You've taken a helluva long and tortuous route to prove something which required no proof.

Perhaps you'll now spend another four hours arguing with me that it was indeed BOTH false AND incorrect. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-25 19:30:37
QUOTE(standman @ May 25 2007, 07:18 PM) [snapback]278113[/snapback]
What is success for us next season ?

Is it really a just case of finishing eighth or above , consolodating and then perhaps challenging for promotion on those foundations the following season ?

I believe that the accepted wisdom is that it's only where you are (FFS we're top of the league AD NAUSEAM) which counts, and not how or why you are there.

For me, success will only be appraisable when I know the strength of our new squad.

I'll then be able to compare league position with potential and assay success.

I'd say Stirling were extremely succesful last season, and by the bookies pre season predictions, we made an arse of things.

...I hear it coming FFS WE WON THE CHAMPIONSHIP.


I F*CKING KNOW


mortonjag 2007-05-25 19:39:25
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 25 2007, 07:27 PM) [snapback]278117[/snapback]
All you had to say was you were wrong and she was indeed English.....matter cleared up then

I did not HAVE to say anything more or less than was said, nor do I hear one solitary poster with half a grain of wit rushing to attack me.

My statement was not debated because it was unequivocal-she was INDEED born in England, and she was INDEED of scottish ancestry.
That unequivocal statement was made over four hours ago. No 'matter' required clearing up except within Colkitto's, in that respect, unoccupied cranium.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 19:42:58
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 25 2007, 07:27 PM) [snapback]278119[/snapback]
The Smellic away support- large proportion of vermin. F'ckin sinn fein/ira scumbags.

Hearts fans, goodly proportion of Orange basturts who love a verse or two of the sash and plenty who enjoyed bricking our buses in '77.

F'ck both lots.

Well said Mr Bam!

F*ck both LOTS and lots.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 19:48:42
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 25 2007, 07:11 PM) [snapback]278110[/snapback]
So what one do you prefer ?

My statement stands-I am Scots and British and British and Scots-I don't see this issue as some sort of semantic pecking order, or mathematical equation.

I'd be willing to discuss it deeper with someone of intelligence and no hidden agenda, mind you.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 19:57:05
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 25 2007, 07:22 PM) [snapback]278115[/snapback]
The penny now must have dropped that this will probably be Gretna's biggest financial disaster so far .
They have alittle enough support at Raydale without travelling to Motherwell every other week .
While they will be boosted by the amount of away supporters .
There is the downside of the rental of Fir Park , extra policing and stewarding , players wages . While they also have the cost of building or renovating a stadium.
LIVING THE DREAM ...... looks abit of a nightmare from where I'm sitting tongue.gif

IT IS from where I am.

'Peter there's somebody at the door'-sorry Chrissiboi, where was I-oh yes- if only Pony Tail had been a GENUINE Christian, things might have been so different! cool.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-25 20:01:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 25 2007, 07:55 PM) [snapback]278144[/snapback]
Food is average and full of glow in the dark colourings, prices higher than average. Save your money and go for a decent curry in Glasgow.

Mine does home deliveries DE! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-25 20:02:19
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 25 2007, 07:58 PM) [snapback]278147[/snapback]
Go to the one in West Blackhall st and fill your boots for £10 in the buff. tongue.gif

mm-slight contradiction, peut etre? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-25 20:04:03
QUOTE(Robert the Bruce @ May 25 2007, 07:53 PM) [snapback]278142[/snapback]
You don't half talk pish.

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mortonjag 2007-05-25 20:17:27
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 25 2007, 07:02 PM) [snapback]278104[/snapback]
Don't give me your s***e.

Did you not hear them booing during the minute's silence for Pope John Paul II? Oh actually sorry, they must have all just coughed simultaneously for a minute.

Well observed, Jambos! laugh.gif

Anytime they play Celtic it's "HULLO HULLO" for 90 minutes, I've experienced it myself mon vieux.

May I suggest without prejudice, that coming after your bald statement yesterday that you have no interest in the Catholic Church as a 'lapsed Catholic', and are only on a MORTON fans forum ' to wind up' 'the anti Catholic hegemony', that your presence on the board is becoming repugnant.

I made it clear to you how those things get out of hand when people confuse banter with bitterness.

Yesterday I gave you a yellow card, and I hope the majority of our MORTON supporting posters agree that you're overdue a red.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 20:22:57
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 25 2007, 08:09 PM) [snapback]278166[/snapback]
I was just asking a simple question. Are you not proud to be british then ?

You appeared to be attempting to complicate a VERY simple statement.

I am Scots and British. rolleyes.gif

I don't do 'Have you stopped beating the wife' stuff Colkitto-it's only dubious value is in politics.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 20:24:37
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 25 2007, 08:23 PM) [snapback]278179[/snapback]
FFS Mick, geez piece will ye. Put another record on FFS.

I'm sure you'll be welcomed with open arms in many other websites.

Cretins reunited?
mortonjag 2007-05-25 20:26:09
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 25 2007, 08:07 PM) [snapback]278163[/snapback]
Agree with RtB. That is wan load a pish laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2007-05-25 20:27:48
QUOTE(Robert the Bruce @ May 25 2007, 08:22 PM) [snapback]278176[/snapback]
Me to.

Eaten with chopsticks no doubt in respect of the Chinese nation.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 20:29:18
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 25 2007, 08:27 PM) [snapback]278182[/snapback]
He's still young, give him a break.

I only hope one day he'll grow up and realise what a t*** he's been.

I wouldn't be holding my breath though. rolleyes.gif

neck or both legs?
mortonjag 2007-05-25 20:31:15
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 25 2007, 08:29 PM) [snapback]278187[/snapback]
No thanks, a fork. tongue.gif

As I do-no I was firing that at Colkitto's bedfellow.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 20:49:48
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 25 2007, 08:41 PM) [snapback]278196[/snapback]
I hate everything outwith Morton

... and Gibby.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 20:55:52
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ May 25 2007, 08:39 PM) [snapback]278193[/snapback]
He's at least trying to recoup some of his investment. People ain't going to travel up the M74 every week to watch them so why not get some more local support. I know you hate him, and its the only thing I like digging you up on. I just see Mileson as a slightly more successful version of wee dougie. And I can't hate him for that.

I don't know the man- I despise his crass stupidity, and the fact that his self indulgence held Morton back for a season.

To compare him to DDFR in football terms is IMHO crazy.

DDFR is a benign dictator who's polishing his own ego, and probably holding us back a wee bit by non delegation, but Morton FC is a sound and potentially viable investment.

Need I expand? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-25 21:00:54
QUOTE(briggsTON @ May 25 2007, 08:57 PM) [snapback]278202[/snapback]
The Herald has a supplement today on Celtic's European Cup success in 1967. There is one page dedicated to other major games in that year. Coming to the point, underneath the report on the game between Killie and Leeds there is a picture of Carl Bertelsen challenging the Leeds keeper ( David Harvey ? )

Bertelsen could get up higher for a ball than any other forward I've ever seen play for us, and I'm certain he was 5' 10" at the most. Scored some crackers with head and feet.
mortonjag 2007-05-25 22:19:55
QUOTE(Robert the Bruce @ May 25 2007, 08:31 PM) [snapback]278190[/snapback]
Na im a barbarian i use my hands.

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mortonjag 2007-05-25 22:24:21
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 25 2007, 09:43 PM) [snapback]278211[/snapback]
Ok. we have established what you are. Now can you answer the rest of the question ? Are you proud to be both Scots and british ? British.

Sometimes both, sometimes neither, and occasionally more proud of one than the other.
mortonjag 2007-05-26 05:22:50
QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 25 2007, 10:24 PM) [snapback]278220[/snapback]
On what do you base this? One off cup tie's are not an accurate yardstick.

At the monent we have no first choice goalkeeper signed, McGurn has never played above 2nd div level.

Of the back four only Ryan Harding and Peter Weatherson have featured at or above 1st div level.

Of the midfield only Scott McLaughlin has featured above 2nd division level.

Chris Templeman is our only striker to have played above the 2nd division.

We've no idea where Peter will fit in. While he was outstanding last season I still don't see what position he truly excels in?

Allied to the fact that I reckon Millar, McAlistair, Greacen, McGregor, Walker, Finlayson, Keenan will struggle to make any significant impact on the 1st next season I see no real cause for your (what seems eternal) optimism.

There's still a lot of problems to be ironed out with the current squad before we can even consider talking about top 4 finishes and the like.

McLaughlin has actually played in the SPL against one of the OF

(Only once mind!) laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-26 05:27:30
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 26 2007, 12:06 AM) [snapback]278272[/snapback]
Are you know so addicted to your keyboard you have to type out conversations at home ?
You really need the season to start laugh.gif

...It shall be arranged! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-26 05:33:00 Spoonsy was, is, and always will be a striker.
mortonjag 2007-05-26 05:38:36
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 25 2007, 10:48 PM) [snapback]278229[/snapback]
Presumably, those with that much sense cannae be arsed

Attacking me again are we Trumpet? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-26 05:43:42
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 25 2007, 11:26 PM) [snapback]278247[/snapback]
Scored in the 4-3 game against the bhigots where the ref blew whilst his shot was in the air. mad.gif

Correct-I suspect it was after that game that one of the tabloids ran an article specifically on his ability to get up so high, and there was one photo of him heading a goal, where he was clearly well above the centre half and crossbar as he made contact.
mortonjag 2007-05-26 05:46:57
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 25 2007, 10:40 PM) [snapback]278225[/snapback]
its

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mortonjag 2007-05-26 05:57:53
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 25 2007, 11:26 PM) [snapback]278246[/snapback]
And there we have it ! The difference between a unionist and a nationalist. I, being a nationalist, will NEVER be more proud of being a Scot. Nothing will EVER take pride of place of being a Scot.
britain is a multi-nation political State, nothing else. We could vote britain out of existance. There will always be a Scotland !
I live for the day people like you are consigned to history mad.gif

LCM's description is MORE than generous CLAYMORE C0CK. Your head is as big as your brain is small-the saddest case of self inflicted megacolon I've ever had the misfortune to see.

For you, it's (spell checker used Trumpet) always Black or White, and anybody who disagrees is subjected to a tartan parrotfest until he gives up in sheer despair-but NOT always! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-26 06:26:03
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 26 2007, 02:02 AM) [snapback]278281[/snapback]
For f***'s sake, the lot of you even defend the Pope's Minute's Silence.

I'd be at more Ton games this season if you weren't dropping like flies.

You are an insect-aphid springs to mind- and if you're spotted at Scapa this coming season watch out for all those big blue and white spiders.

Does your hallowed father (not the one who used to be in heaven) know about your behaviour on this forum towards a large number of local council constituents?

Is he aware that you have openly admitted that you come on here simply to 'wind up the anti-Catholic Hegemony'.

The Greenock Telegraph, only a couple of months back, got it's teeth into this website on a QUASI racial matter.

There is nothing QUASI about your MODUS OPERANDI, as stated above. It is only a smidgin (if indeed at all) short of inciting sectarian hatred, and that by a CELTIC supporton, on a MORTON web site.

I fully expect the usual c*cky little bast*rd response that you don't give a f*ck what your father thinks or says.

I doubt though, that if he discovers what's been going on he'll say the same of you.

Mind you in the hypothetical situation of him coming on in your support, that would definitely be in the 'Tele' the next day.
mortonjag 2007-05-26 07:11:03 I've made it clear to 'anti-Catholic hegemony' buster that IMO he is no longer welcome on the forum.

Fortunately we don't, so far as I can see, have ANY of his ilk as fellow posters.

His raison d'etre is gratuitous trouble making.

Time for all genuine Ton supporters to bid him farewell.
mortonjag 2007-05-26 07:23:28 We normally go with the American flow about five to ten years later, but not on this one.

83 years ago today the US introduced tight immigration controls. John Wayne was conveniently born on May 26th to scare of those Injuns, and over here on that date Peter Cushing made a less than comparable start to his successful spin round the mortal coil.
mortonjag 2007-05-26 07:43:46
QUOTE(TaunTon @ May 26 2007, 07:37 AM) [snapback]278315[/snapback]
I can't see where this confidence is coming from. The current squad has been playing part timers for the last 4 seasons and struggled. The same basic issues remain in defence and midfield and if our loan striker doesn't return then we have a forward line that looks short of goals.

The signings will be crucial and I'll wait until I've seen them before making up my mind however like others have posted I can't say I'm thrilled with JM's loyalty to some who are clearly not up to it.

I can see both sides of the argument. One thing's clear, to me at least, the potential within the present squad is certainly more than enough to cope with a fitter and more streetwise, but not that skilful division.

St Johnstone, Killie, and even Well allowed us to play football-Clyde did not.

I'm with tonsilitis on this one. Three or four experienced players including one GENUINE captain, and we're promotion candidates.
mortonjag 2007-05-26 07:51:57 ....if only to hear the dyslectic Orange topped gnome's post match comments.
mortonjag 2007-05-26 08:00:28
QUOTE(shedhead @ May 26 2007, 07:51 AM) [snapback]278319[/snapback]
Nah mate . I'm a mass going Catholic , not a saint.

You're not a 'lapsed Catholic', Celtic supporting, champion of some mystical anti papist clique though Shedhead.

The board rules are clearly set out-anything goes for Ton supporters-well ALMOST anything!

Mick is indeed very sick-the condition is not as he states, but is relapsing and remitting-he may not, like you Shedhead, attend Church, but when it suits his convoluted little mind 'Tim' and Catholic are identical.
mortonjag 2007-05-26 08:02:34
QUOTE(shedhead @ May 26 2007, 08:01 AM) [snapback]278324[/snapback]
come on the hoops tongue.gif

The strip's not out yet! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-26 08:05:44
QUOTE(shedhead @ May 26 2007, 08:03 AM) [snapback]278326[/snapback]
Lol ,well I just posted come on the hoops to annoy everyone tongue.gif

As Colkitto would say-ANSWER THIS QUESTION


Have you stopped supporting the Tims?

YES or NO please. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-26 08:12:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 26 2007, 07:55 AM) [snapback]278321[/snapback]
Gidday Colkitto,

In what way is that label racist ???

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Provided the tartan parrot's batteries are up to it NewTon, you will receive about 20 odd replies all stating the same.

Contradicting the parrot carries an aural health warning.

Asking it a question is plainly suicidal.
mortonjag 2007-05-26 08:19:06
QUOTE(shedhead @ May 26 2007, 08:15 AM) [snapback]278329[/snapback]
I was raised to be a Celtic fan. I started going to see the Ton on my own when I was about eleven and became a diehard. The recent threads , however, have shown me that Morton supporters have a strong dislike of the Catholic church. Threads ridiculing my beliefs, with posters saying the Pope should be booed, has led me to realise that Morton supporters are just Huns withouth the bus fare. So i'm finnished watching the Ton .

mmm unsure.gif If that's irony shedhead, as I suspect, excellent -but it will surely go over most heads!
mortonjag 2007-05-26 08:31:18 A £1 treble on Dunfermline, Nurnberg, and Villarreal, will net you £149.50 at current odds.

Just a thought mind!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-26 08:40:53
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 26 2007, 08:36 AM) [snapback]278333[/snapback]
I regard it as a offensive racist remark against Scots nationalists.

What if he said "spear thrower c0ck" Would that sound racist or offensive ?

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Haggis heid-you are priceless-keep them coming!
mortonjag 2007-05-26 09:32:42
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 26 2007, 08:58 AM) [snapback]278340[/snapback]
You're a bit of a fascist it seems, Mentaljag. biggrin.gif I'm glad you're not chairman of this board. If you don't like the ailing Michael's posts, I suggest you press the ignore button rather than call for a ban.

Fascist-oh absolutely-we should undoubtedly band together as Ton supporters when a self confessed trouble making 'lapsed Catholic' Tim is given free range to foist his puerile fun on us.

Seriously DE-did you totally miss what happened with the 'Clinging' assertion that I was one of an anti-papal faction on the board? I'll p.m. you if you like.

Did you also totally miss the 'Tele's recent unwanted and on that occasion unwarranted intrusion into our affairs.

If our Moderators are willing to step down, by all means let true battle commence. As it stands they are effectively held to ransom by every poster who has a religious, racist, or P.C. gripe.

I categorically WON'T object to his posts IF I am to be accorded the same laissez faire attitude which obviously prevails with regard to his, on religious matters.

On other topics he can be amusing at times, even though it's obvious he still doesn't buy condoms or razor blades.

As for 'putting anyone on ignore'-that's a 'cop out'.
mortonjag 2007-05-26 09:37:33
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ May 26 2007, 09:06 AM) [snapback]278342[/snapback]
Minute's silences are debateable at the best of times. The Pope has no relevance to Scottish football so why does he deserve a minutes silence at a scottish football match. The same goes for the moderator of the Church of Scotland. If people want to show respect they can got to their respective places of worship to do it. To support either is to support the concept of sectarianism in football.

I have pretty strong views about the last Pope, but that's because I spent 4 years in the Philippines and saw the impact first hand of his policies.

Mick is deliberately setting up the arguments. He's the one deserving of flak. The joy of Morton is that its a broad church. Not one or the other.

I couldn't have worded it better.

Incidentally the next C of S Mod will be female, and probably disinterested in football.

When will we get the first female pope?
mortonjag 2007-05-26 09:40:36
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 26 2007, 09:30 AM) [snapback]278346[/snapback]
It think that the 'religious' profile of the Morton support reflects that of the Inverclyde poulation as a whole, i.e. 50% from a Catholic background and 50% from a protestant one. One's personal faith (or lack of it) is just that, i.e. personal, and should be respected as such. The Pope, Queen or Ian bloody Paisley for that matter have got nothing to do with football, therefore 3 minutes silence should one of them puff it has no relevance at a football match. Having said that, if the authorities were stupid enough to allow a 'silence', I wouldn't boo it. That would be as pointless, disrespectful and irrelevant as the silence itself.

I have to say in all honesty, that I possibly would boo a 'one minutes silence' for Paisley's death almost as much as I'd welcome the latter.

I despise bigots of all types-bigoted against bigotry I'd guess.
mortonjag 2007-05-26 09:45:30
QUOTE(shedhead @ May 26 2007, 09:42 AM) [snapback]278352[/snapback]
Never . Cos we are all b*****ds and you are right to hate us tongue.gif

WE ?

YOU? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-26 09:54:51
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 26 2007, 09:41 AM) [snapback]278351[/snapback]
That's fine with me, Mentaljag. And just as long as you, the ailing Michael or anyone else doesn't indulge in sectarian abuse, then I'm sure it'll be fine with the moderators as well. smile.gif

The point being that in the 'Clinging' situation it wasn't. His complete mischief caused Nach0 and myself almost to fall out, and only after our Mod realised I wouldn't 'let go' did he do some research which vindicated me. That's NOT a criticism of Nach0, but a palpable illustration of the knock on effect of malicious mischief, of which Sick Mick is clearly a stereotype.

He has freely confessed that he is 'trying to wind up the anti-Catholic hegemony' on the board, that he is a 'lapsed Catholic' (and presumably has no religious leaning), and a Celtic supporter on a Morton forum.

It would be very easy to construct an argument to the effect that he is deliberately attempting to incite sectarian squabbles. Do you disagree?

mortonjag 2007-05-26 09:59:18
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 26 2007, 09:54 AM) [snapback]278354[/snapback]
Awww, the lovely !!!!!

So now that you two bumboys have kissed and made up can you just get a room and get each other plugged. The prize for last man standing is a dart at Boozehound. Fecking golfers.

TonInDublin

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The matter is clearly below your dignity-'bumboys' eh-I'll 'bumboy' you! wub.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-26 10:03:35
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 26 2007, 09:54 AM) [snapback]278356[/snapback]
£100k wouldn't be unreasonable, given that Celtic are asking £150k for McGowan.

Matter fixed-shall I start a new thread? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-26 10:13:50
QUOTE(shedhead @ May 26 2007, 10:02 AM) [snapback]278358[/snapback]
I remember sticking up for you when you got banned MJ . Most of the posters who you irritated stood up for you ,saying you had a right to say what you thought. Since then we have listened to your ignorant ramblings about football, your support for the BNP, and your gripes about Catholics.

Now you want someone band for being a Tim , oh the irony.

I also forgave you for a pathetic threat in a p.m. shedhead-had you forgotten that. You must start to interpret posts-not just jump to conclusions.

I have stated very clearly my opinions about Mick- I DON'T want him banned 'because he's a Tim'-I merely think it's inappropriate that he appears to attempt to stir up bigotry.

If you don't like my'ignorant ramblings' about football, that's fine by me, but don't start to cite my obvious JOKE about the B.N.P., and my 'GRIPES' about Catholics.

We get regular 'Hun' bashing too, and if you check, you'll find I'm one of the regular 'Hun bashers'. As I said earlier, I despise bigotry.

IMO you should have a wee think about what you just posted and YOUR motivation.

PS I acknowledge your later qualification.
mortonjag 2007-05-26 10:16:12
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 26 2007, 10:03 AM) [snapback]278359[/snapback]
I've said that I favour freedom of expression, excepting sectarian and/or racist abuse. If you think that someone is deliberately trying to provoke an abusive reaction of a sectarian nature then the answer is simple. Don't rise to the bait.

To see a wrong and do nothing is to condone it.
mortonjag 2007-05-26 10:30:12 For the second time in as many weeks our moderator has closed a topic directly after one of my comments.

On each occasion I have simply been attempting to highlight what I regard as an unhealthy paranoia. The previous poster quite clearly introduced an 'us' and 'you' element to the debate, and on challenging that-OBVIOUSLY asking for clarification-the thread is closed because Nach0's 'had enough of it'.

NO explanation offered-last time he just 'considered it inappropriate'.

A democratic country where we're allowed freedom of thought and speech-unless it happens to be on Greenockmorton.net. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-26 10:38:33
QUOTE(nach0king @ May 26 2007, 10:31 AM) [snapback]278389[/snapback]
Oh ffs, I didn't close it because of one of your comments. I closed it because I'm really, really, really sick of the discussion in general. If I'd thought it was anything to do with you in particular I'd have indicated it.

P.S. don't confound freedom of speech in the UK with your freedom to say whatever you like on private property as it's completely different.

OK-so it WAS just coincidence! unsure.gif

Don't forget Nach0, that if you continue to make your property so private, you may find that before too long nobody will even bother his arse attempting to picnic there.

As for being 'really, really, really sick of the discussion', maybe you should be asking yourself if it's not time to vacate the kitchen if you can't stand the heat.

Then again it's YOUR kitchen, but it should still conform to accepted standards of hygeine and food preparation IMO.
mortonjag 2007-05-26 10:41:58
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 26 2007, 10:19 AM) [snapback]278377[/snapback]
You can 'bumboy' the Dublin one if you like, just steer clear of me. tongue.gif

Did the boyfriend tell you to say that or was it an original thought DE? dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-26 10:44:14
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 26 2007, 10:25 AM) [snapback]278385[/snapback]
Away man. We're talking about opinions on a messageboard. Who's right and who's wrong is a matter of opinion is it not?

Is it right, or is it wrong to stir up religious bigotry?

In my opinion it is wrong.

I await the usual contradictions.
mortonjag 2007-05-26 10:45:34
QUOTE(Mr.Kennedy @ May 26 2007, 10:33 AM) [snapback]278391[/snapback]
Are you people actually offended by anything on here? mellow.gif

I'm offended by the stifling of debate by a squeamish moderator.
mortonjag 2007-05-26 10:58:16
QUOTE(nach0king @ May 26 2007, 10:41 AM) [snapback]278398[/snapback]
Yes, it's simple law of averages. You post a hell of a lot, particularly on controversial threads. In this instance, yours happened to be the last post.

What, you think I sat here watching a discussion about Hearts slowly return to the same old, same old, waiting for you to post, a single bead of sweat running down my furrowed brow, until it was you who had the last post on the thread so I could finally delete it before surveying the scene like Clint Eastwood stares at the aftermath of a shootout?

Or shall I go digging through the server logs - again - to show that I happened to come online after circa 16 hours without reading the board (only logging on to check my PM folders) to see this trainwreck on a discussion that was supposed to be about Hearts FC?

I am waiting for tontastic return so that I can, as you put it, vacate the kitchen. Until then, I advise you to suck it up.

Then your closing the last two threads directly after I posted WAS pure coincidence-fair enough Nach0, but you haven't told the posters that you made a complete arse of yourself last time, and clearly thought I was trouble making, until you back checked.

Of course I post a lot on controversial threads-I also join in the fun of jokes, word associations, band names etc.

One thing I DO NOT DO is attempt to incite hatred of any kind. It's all very well for others to shrug off the inputs of Ian Clinging, Sick Mick, and to a much lesser extent shedhead, claiming that they are just 'baiting', but I see it as 'the thin edge of the wedge'.

For example shedhead persists with his assertion that I'm a B.N.P. man, but I don't see you rushing to my defence. Do you believe I am, and if not why is his assertion-which is clearly NOT a 'wind up' allowed to go unchecked?

Is it going to take another Telegraph article to open some people's eyes to the difference between genuine opinion and deliberate malicious mischief?
mortonjag 2007-05-26 11:07:01
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 26 2007, 11:02 AM) [snapback]278413[/snapback]
I don't think you are anyway MJ, and I have received the express permission of your Obersturmbahnfuhrer to say so.

TonInDublin

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mortonjag 2007-05-26 11:25:31
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 26 2007, 11:03 AM) [snapback]278414[/snapback]
Easy on the metaphors. laugh.gif

Gentlemen FFS gonnae get a grip. The forum is enlivened by such as Sick Mick, Arkleston and many others. Controversy and banter is what keeps people coming back.

Mortonjag, as I said last night in the pm, I like your s*** stirring style, keep it up.

Nacho, yes most of the posters push their luck, reminds me of some classes I have taught. Keep the boogers in line. A wee ban here and there and take no bulls***. Normally works wie even the most recalcitrant pupils.

I mean, I didn't greet about my one week ban. rolleyes.gif

Fair enough Mr Bam, but the good Mod must concede that the last two CONSECUTIVE threads have been closed directly after one of my posts, and with no initial explanation except that he's 'had enough'.

I STRONGLY suspect that if I counter Sick Mick's posts in as contentious a manner as he initiates them, I will again find threads terminated directly after mine.

Something like ...'the insidious papist paranoia which infects the forum and threatens to stifle healthy debate, climbing as it does on the bandwagon of inappropriate dyspeptic Moderation, is too easily accepted as innocuous by a gullible and unthinking membership' springs to mind.

That type of post seems to be more distasteful in certain high quarters than the simple 'the board's full of 'Huns' constantly persecuting us poor defenceless 'Tims', which goes unchecked, day in, day out.

I wonder why? unsure.gif

mortonjag 2007-05-26 13:17:49 Well lads and lassies, a wee bit wink.gif of banter seems to have defused the bomb I was preparing! laugh.gif

Nach0-you do your best-not good enough by a long chalk-but you're young and wet behind the ears. I must learn to be more tolerant!

Just one final comment before I prepare to sit and watch the Tims getting humped by a good Proddy Provincial side.

Sick Mick was prominent by his absence, as we pulled each other to pieces-he was the poster who introduced the religious element into a thread about Hearts, and he is the one who will presently be heading for Hampden.

That's where he should be as a 'died in the wool' Celtic supporter, not on OUR forum masquerading as a genuine poster.

I agree with most of what Mr Trollbuster says, but to equate the likes of Narky Arky with that little weasel who never ventures an original thought is insulting in the extreme.

I've always had a strong sense of fair play, inevitably siding with the underdog in any situation.

It's that very sense of fair play which causes my hackles to rise every time I read a 'blanket' statement about 'anti Catholic cliques' on the board.

To set the record straight, Clinging was asked by me to 'name and shame' after accusing me of being a member of such. His subsequent offensive post was apparently deleted by himself before Nach0 read my response. Funnily enough we haven't heard of him since. Shedhead has threatened me in a p.m. I thought that had been fixed, but again today he's back at the paranoia and accusations.

The point is that those guys are not 'takin the piss'-they sincerely believe there is an anti catholic faction on this board, and Sick Mick is more than happy to provide their cannonballs, as he slips off unnoticed.

I don't think there's a 'Papist paranoid faction' on the board, any more than there is an 'anti catholic hegemony', but I'm getting sick and tired of having to look over my shoulder every time I post my sincerely held views, in case they offend some over sensitive soul.

Now if some of you get bored with my rather pedantic and grandiose prose, here it is in common parlance.

Ian Clinging and shedhead are two fellow Ton supporters who IMHO have got it all wrong.

Sick Mick is a trouble making, Celtic supporting weasel who has no interest in the wellbeing of our forum. Frankly I'd rather read 100 Skunk posts than one of his.

Edit (Changed 'shedhead' to 'sick mick')-sorry shedhead.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 07:38:43
QUOTE(Carl Bertelson @ May 26 2007, 09:29 PM) [snapback]278693[/snapback]
I seem to remember you getting into a heated discussion on this board, something about the press, you thought it was a big joke that they read this msg board and used some of the postings for articles in their respective papers. In fact did you not ridicule the poster who brought this up saying that no journalist in their right mind would use this msg board for articles.
And oh my God they do!!!!!!! now there is a surprise, MJ gets it wrong and anyone who read this board will know that MJ is always right even when he's wrong!!

Keep up the good work Nach0...there are fifth columnist infiltrating this board once more...all those on here are not always who or what they appear to be!

Very good ya' dod of Danish pouffe pastry.

The press uses our message board for its articles, and you've just fed them a tasty morsel

'Fifth columnists indeed' mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-27 09:05:59 At around 4.45 p.m. yesterday in the National Stadium, life took on a completely new meaning for one man.

All his life he'd dreamt of this- even from the very first time he kicked a ball about the back garden, yet despite years of hard practice, training, and watching countless replays of his performances, he just hadn't been able to make it happen.

He was the butt of his fellow Celtic mates' jokes, and some were saying he'd become embittered by it all, and had been stirring up trouble behind the scenes.

Then, when it seemed as likely as snow in June, and in full view of 30,000 awestruck Celtic fans, Jean Joel Perrier Doumbe latched onto a through ball, glanced up briefly, and


























Sick Mick came in his pants
mortonjag 2007-05-27 09:20:33
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 27 2007, 09:15 AM) [snapback]278834[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

? ? ? ?

It's Sick Mick prepubescent ??

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

Prepubescent's a Ton supporter I believe.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 09:27:08
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 27 2007, 01:18 AM) [snapback]278775[/snapback]
laugh.gif I made sangria with Eldorado earlier this year - woke up on someone's couch and still have no clue who it was.

sangria=love

Eldorado=a sheep

couch=slurry pit
mortonjag 2007-05-27 09:28:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 27 2007, 09:02 AM) [snapback]278830[/snapback]
? ?

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

South

mouth
mortonjag 2007-05-27 09:36:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 27 2007, 09:28 AM) [snapback]278844[/snapback]
Well, even Sick Mick is a sort of maybe perhaps Ton "supporter"

One day he may see the light.

Then again the A8 is not quite the road to Damascus.
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'Sick Mick, why persecutest thou me-it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. (Adapted from Acts Ch. 26, V. 14.

Do you REALLY think that would be a good thing?

mortonjag 2007-05-27 09:38:38
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 27 2007, 09:30 AM) [snapback]278848[/snapback]
loud

soft
mortonjag 2007-05-27 09:41:25
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 27 2007, 09:38 AM) [snapback]278857[/snapback]
You really have been down under to long NewTon, the A8 has now been up graded to the M8. tongue.gif

midTONs you underestimate the perception of Skippy-when would Sick Mick ever take a straight path, when everything about him is bent?
mortonjag 2007-05-27 09:43:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 27 2007, 09:41 AM) [snapback]278859[/snapback]
soft as a kiss

toff on the piss
mortonjag 2007-05-27 09:49:14
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 27 2007, 09:45 AM) [snapback]278863[/snapback]
Gidday midTons,

Having driven BOTH the M8 and the A8 in July 2006, I beg to differ.

And I would be a lot happier if Sick Mick was walking on the A8 rather than the M8.

There are lots of lunatics on the M8 doing 70 mph +

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Relative to your final sentence, I am diametrically opposed to your opinion in that penultimate.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 09:50:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 27 2007, 09:48 AM) [snapback]278865[/snapback]
All Piss and Wind

Colkitto
mortonjag 2007-05-27 09:53:16
QUOTE(ThornTON @ May 27 2007, 09:37 AM) [snapback]278856[/snapback]
The indian at the top of West Blackhall Street was pretty good (near that Italian s***hole), or has that gone?

whatever was he doing there ThornTON? sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-27 09:57:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 27 2007, 09:52 AM) [snapback]278869[/snapback]
Thomas Coates was a Baptist.

Thomas Coats-a wealthy Paisley bast*rd Baptist, bequeathed much of his textile gained wealth to that cause. With some of it they built the magnificent Coats Memorial Baptist Church which overlooks the 'tech'.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 10:04:38
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 27 2007, 09:57 AM) [snapback]278873[/snapback]
OK, mortonjag, are these better ??

There are lots of criminals on the M8 doing 70 mph +

OR

There are lots of anti social types on the M8 doing 70 mph +

Think about it, mate ... Sick Mick is our friend.

DDFR needs all the punters he can get at Cappielow.

Having devoted my life to healing the sick, I believe I am qualified to prognosticate on this sad case.

Mick is suffering from an incurable cancer, of a relatively common and particularly virulent type.

I'm not a strong advocate of euthanasia, but of course, every case should be judged on its individual merits.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 10:06:24
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 27 2007, 09:54 AM) [snapback]278872[/snapback]
Celtic conqueror with Claymore.

Alligatoration
mortonjag 2007-05-27 11:04:33
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 27 2007, 10:07 AM) [snapback]278878[/snapback]
Come on mortonjag, that IS NOT cricket, mate.

Sadly, IMHO, you have gone too far.

sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

In what respect NewTon? Everything I've said is figurative- I'm only trying to draw attention to what I sincerely regard as a cancer which is eroding the well-being of our forum.

We have plenty of Skunk friends who come on with no hidden agenda, but I'm afraid that by initially masquerading as a Ton fan, deliberately catalysing the age old Proddy- Catholic debate, and then baldly stating that he is a 'lapsed Catholic', and Celtic supporter, whose only purpose is to 'wind up the anti -Catholic hegemony' on the board, he's exposed himself as a contemptible young weasel.

Do you object to the extermination of vermin?

Again, of course, I speak figuratively.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 11:12:36
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 27 2007, 10:46 AM) [snapback]278903[/snapback]
I believe it's a racist remark against Scots, made by someone who considers himself british.

The The Scottish Commission for Racial Equality has cautioned against anti-English racism at the last World Cup ( as you can see from this headline http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article674531.ece )

I presume, if anti-English remarks are deemed "racist" then anti-Scottish remarks would be too !

For someone so thick skinned in your unilateral perception of politics, you've suddenly become ever so sensitive Thistle Tadger.

If we ARE going to split hairs, your persistence with british, in a singularly puerile attempt to belittle the British people could be construed in exactly the same fashion.

Grow up.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 11:40:45
QUOTE(arklesTON @ May 27 2007, 11:21 AM) [snapback]278918[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif

Good one.

Shortbread Schlong.

F*ck off you- the association of Masterbakers will have you for that baldly racist comment.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 11:52:06
QUOTE(arklesTON @ May 27 2007, 11:47 AM) [snapback]278932[/snapback]
Sick Mick,

There are Catholics, Protestants, Atheists etc. all on this messageboard. I'm not interested in anyone elses religion on here. We have our disagreements etc. but its for something more worthwhile than the best brand of Christianity.

You said on another thread you were a 'lapsed' catholic. Since you cant be arsed going to mass on a sunday would you kindly shut the f*** up about being a catholic. You are doing a disservice to a lot of practicing catholics here, and you are trying your best to create friction where none really exists.

Correct Arky-he's so wet behind the ears he is seemingly unaware of that, and as I've commented before, I wonder what 'Daddy' would think of his behaviour, given that the majority of posters are Inverclyde voters.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 11:54:58 Bannock balls
mortonjag 2007-05-27 11:56:59
QUOTE(arklesTON @ May 27 2007, 11:54 AM) [snapback]278938[/snapback]
Is his old man an Inverclyde Councillor?

I'm not certain, but previous posters have certainly strongly suggested it.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 11:58:55
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 27 2007, 10:41 AM) [snapback]278896[/snapback]
I'm a Scot.

Is that a British Scot, or a Scottish Brit oatmeal organ?
mortonjag 2007-05-27 12:00:52
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 27 2007, 11:58 AM) [snapback]278945[/snapback]
Saltire sack

Peat pr*ck
mortonjag 2007-05-27 12:04:43
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 27 2007, 12:01 PM) [snapback]278953[/snapback]
Oh FFS don't call him British, this could run to 10 pages wie buckets o' blood.

Would that be BRITISH blood?
mortonjag 2007-05-27 12:05:52
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 27 2007, 12:04 PM) [snapback]278956[/snapback]
Fair play, you can't blame the father for the son's behaviour.

...unless he knows of it and does nothing!
mortonjag 2007-05-27 12:07:39
QUOTE(arklesTON @ May 27 2007, 12:04 PM) [snapback]278955[/snapback]
Doe-a-Deer Stock.

Whisky walloper
mortonjag 2007-05-27 12:22:46
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 27 2007, 12:07 PM) [snapback]278964[/snapback]
No, he sits here with me and I say "I can make all these c***s go off their nut with one post, watch this."

It's a Father-Son thing, honestly it is.

Is your hatred for your father stronger than your hatred of 'the anti-Catholic hegemony' you claim exists on our MORTON forum?
mortonjag 2007-05-27 12:24:33
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 27 2007, 10:16 AM) [snapback]278882[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Inhabits swamps, bogs and marshes.

Upwardly mobile skunk
mortonjag 2007-05-27 12:31:21
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 27 2007, 12:06 PM) [snapback]278961[/snapback]
Wether he likes it or not he IS british, that's what it says on his passport. rolleyes.gif

Bagpipe bollocks has a passport-whatever for?
mortonjag 2007-05-27 12:34:53
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 27 2007, 12:06 PM) [snapback]278959[/snapback]
Oi, no birds allowed!

I'll report her to the beak-either that or her feather will give her a good beating.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 12:49:46
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 27 2007, 12:37 PM) [snapback]278990[/snapback]
Does that big red hand make it hard to type? ohmy.gif

Mick, you're struggling, and you're no longer funny. More and more posters have sussed your agenda, and now when I seriously ask why you are behaving in a way which is potentially damaging to your father's political career, you try to side step the question.

If you really want to get your rocks off go on some unofficial 'Hun' site, or did they already chew you up and spit you out?

We've already had somebody on this morning saying that the press DOES take an interest in the forums.

I can just see the headline in the 'Tele'.


Local Councillor's son accused of inciting bigotry

mortonjag 2007-05-27 14:56:35 Kipper coupon
mortonjag 2007-05-27 15:04:02
QUOTE(lemmington @ May 27 2007, 01:19 PM) [snapback]279001[/snapback]
My radiator is leaking water.I have removed it and looking to get it recored.....Does anyone have a website....phone number.....of a local garage who will do this for me?????????????

Glasgow Radiators, Camlachie St., Glasgow. wwwglasgowradiator.com

Been around for some time lemmington-it's a specialised job-you may find one closer to Inverclyde.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 15:10:33
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 27 2007, 03:05 PM) [snapback]279040[/snapback]
Is that naw an American fitbaw team? unsure.gif

ThornTON knows more

'ther ma stats,.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 15:14:53
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 27 2007, 01:51 PM) [snapback]279015[/snapback]
Really ?

So am i.

being a scot is a nationality, not a race.

We'll take that as a fact since over an hour has elapsed with no contradiction from broth buttocks
mortonjag 2007-05-27 15:16:03
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 27 2007, 02:15 PM) [snapback]279025[/snapback]
Pepe le pew

church
mortonjag 2007-05-27 15:23:48
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 27 2007, 12:56 PM) [snapback]278996[/snapback]
Mortonjag, there's a difference between fact and opinion. Your word is not law here. Not everyone agrees with what you say, I know a few people are amused when people bite on threads like this wink.gif

You know for a fact that I don't believe ton fans are massively anti-Catholic, I'm good mates with alot of Morton fans.

With the sub-heading:

"Old c*** jag talks pish as usual"

I think that's what is called giving with one hand and taking with the other Mick.

I find your style very amusing in general, but on this topic you're now 'floggin' a dead horse '.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 15:30:16
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ May 27 2007, 02:17 PM) [snapback]279028[/snapback]
Noted.

Also wearing a Panama Hat so don't want to overdo the accessories.

DM-I await your 'Full Monty' with a mixture of apprehension and glee.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 15:38:11
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 27 2007, 12:37 AM) [snapback]278756[/snapback]
It is bad, and embarrassing as you say. On a par with Knickerless Curmudgeon perhaps?

Pardon my higgorance

I love the description of the said Saint Knickerless -any clues as to the identity?
mortonjag 2007-05-27 15:44:41
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 27 2007, 03:40 PM) [snapback]279054[/snapback]
Nicola Sturgeon. Consider yourself pardoned.

Ah-Knickerless Sturgeon-Bawheid's bit on the side-all is explained-thought it had a fishy ring. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-27 15:51:50
QUOTE(alexp @ May 27 2007, 03:41 PM) [snapback]279057[/snapback]
sc***horpe

east stirlingshire
mortonjag 2007-05-27 15:54:19
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ May 27 2007, 03:43 PM) [snapback]279059[/snapback]
I was meaning more for take-aways, I'm happy to drive into town for a curry.

Surely your nearest (and possibly best) is the Turban in Giffnock. The Royal India in Crookfur's quite pleasant also.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 16:04:04
QUOTE(GMC @ May 27 2007, 03:54 PM) [snapback]279066[/snapback]
Vote mortonjag laugh.gif

I'm highly honoured, but have to decline, as the monkey would grow jealous.

Seriously I wouldn't touch it wih a barge pole-it's too much like my old job-constantly doing your best to maintain standards and fulfil expectations with little thanks in return-then one mistake, and all that's gone before is forgotten.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 16:06:23
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ May 27 2007, 03:58 PM) [snapback]279070[/snapback]
I think the Turban is over-rated.

It's just been totally refurbished DM-where exactly do you feel they could improve?
mortonjag 2007-05-27 16:19:52
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ May 27 2007, 04:12 PM) [snapback]279083[/snapback]
Douglas is Secretary of State for Scotland AND the Transport Secretary would you believe. 'Two jobs Alexander' they call him.

...and Wendy ALEXANDERS BROTHER'S a fiddler.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 16:20:50
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 27 2007, 04:07 PM) [snapback]279081[/snapback]
East fife

Elgin s***ty
mortonjag 2007-05-27 16:25:06
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 27 2007, 04:07 PM) [snapback]279080[/snapback]
That will certainly shake her tailfeather... in fact, it will be like when doves cry

She'd just duck the issue-I ovoid confrontation with Royalty-her Da's probably some f*cking penguin, or worse a c*cky teal.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 16:27:55
QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 27 2007, 04:22 PM) [snapback]279088[/snapback]
1) I never said we were but we're by far the most tolerant, imo.

2) Glad you feel so bullet proof but I care about my club's reputation. What would happen if a Hearts or Hibs fan wore an OF top to Tynecastle/Easter Road? Even the Fuddies (correctly) don't stand for it.

3) Explained this point already. Nothing "hard" about telling a wean off, I just feel uneasy with it. Things will come to a head next season, though. Enough's enough.

Indeed and if ever we needed a reason for banning OF tops at Scapa, Sick Mick has in recent days provided all the evidence we require.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 16:34:33
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 27 2007, 04:01 PM) [snapback]279073[/snapback]
What do these names have in common:

Mao Tse-tung
Josef Stalin
Nicolae Ceausescu
Francisco Franco
Idi Amin
Edinton

rolleyes.gif

Morton Supporters?
mortonjag 2007-05-27 16:36:08
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 27 2007, 04:06 PM) [snapback]279079[/snapback]
Naw ah widnae !! mellow.gif

THE monkey-not beermonkey! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-27 16:37:40
QUOTE(Tons @ May 27 2007, 04:36 PM) [snapback]279100[/snapback]
Thanks Nacho. You'll be a hard act to follow.

Our thoughts are with you at this trying time.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 16:49:33
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 27 2007, 10:51 AM) [snapback]278906[/snapback]
That's a private matter for the players to know. Would you like to tell us how much you earn a week ?

Another pearl of wisdom from gaelic goolies.

We've had this discussion before-what's so bloody socially rubberstamping about wages that they have to be a secret?

For what it's worth, I have a part time job, and adjusted to 40 hours per week, I earn £240.40 before deductions.

The fact that that's less than 1/6th of my pre retirement income doesn't make me, or my current job any less worthwhile.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 16:51:52
QUOTE(Up the Ton @ May 27 2007, 10:40 AM) [snapback]278895[/snapback]
You're either a pure f*d or just a wean....

The jealousy of those Skunks knows no equal.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 16:57:29
QUOTE(arklesTON @ May 26 2007, 11:09 AM) [snapback]278423[/snapback]
I dont mind 'Millions' across the front of our shirts, it was better than 'Half Pounders' and 'James Watt College' as sponsors, however i'm not too keen on the Raes turning Morton into a Millions Roadshow.

MortonJag, if your son's firm has a turnover of £4million and you think we should have something different on the shirts, then why dont you approach the club. I'm sure they would welcome your gesture of altruism.

'Ziggy's Zimmers' and football Arky-don't think it would get off the ground.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 17:03:19
QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 27 2007, 04:37 PM) [snapback]279102[/snapback]
With all due respect Jackie, I think we need far better than Peter in midfield next season.

I really couldn't see him excelling in that position at all.

He'd be decent, imo, but no more than that. Guys like McInnes and Mensing would totally outclass him.

Exactly-Spoonsy was, is, and always will be a striker.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 17:04:37
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 27 2007, 04:41 PM) [snapback]279113[/snapback]
West

fred
mortonjag 2007-05-27 17:06:49
QUOTE(nach0king @ May 27 2007, 04:43 PM) [snapback]279115[/snapback]
I'll call my PR guys and ask them what the best way to spin my legacy is, then I'll get back to you with an honest answer. After all, I'm a pretty straight kinda guy.

(I'm waiting until those who haven't yet seen the board have a chance to PM regarding the admin position. So, a few days, probably by Friday.)

Cheers folks biggrin.gif

... wink.gif and unconscious humourist to boot!
mortonjag 2007-05-27 17:25:55
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 27 2007, 05:20 PM) [snapback]279137[/snapback]
Have to see I was impressed by The Pars passing alot crisper and more direst than we tend to play . Guys like McIntyre and Hamilton upfront will give us a few problems . If they can keep guys like Wilson and Shields at the back .
It shows that we need our signings to be of good quality to compete .

How anybody can suggest that a team who SO successfully prevented the league champions from playing football yesterday, would have been beaten by JM's powderpuff apprentices defeats logic.
We don't have anybody in our whole defence who could hold a candle to Bamba, and their experience stood them in good stead too.

MOST OF ALL they had the wisdom to sign a really good manager.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 17:27:34
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 27 2007, 05:09 PM) [snapback]279132[/snapback]
Ginger

nuts
mortonjag 2007-05-27 17:30:06
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 27 2007, 05:13 PM) [snapback]279135[/snapback]
Whoever gets it can keep me to help or sack me wink.gif

sounds like a nice pastime Bryan! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-27 17:31:14
QUOTE(The Naitch @ May 27 2007, 05:20 PM) [snapback]279138[/snapback]
Yoker Athletic

Charlton athletic
mortonjag 2007-05-27 17:39:09
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 26 2007, 11:09 AM) [snapback]278422[/snapback]
He knows nothing about my willie. And that's how it will stay ohmy.gif

Knows NOTHING ffs I've even seen that wee AMY tattoo read AUCHTERMUCHTY!
mortonjag 2007-05-27 17:48:08
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ May 27 2007, 06:04 AM) [snapback]278811[/snapback]
Dear Sir or Madam ,

I write pertaining to a visit I had to your establishment in Brisbane City Centre today , Sunday 27th May at lunchtime.

I entered your pub for a meal. I chose a pint of guinness to develop my appetitie whilst contemplating the menu.

During my pint of guinness I noted the Scottish Cup soccer final was being shown and , being Scottish myself I decided I would enjoy the match whilst having my meal.

I duly ordered my meal and and a pint of Bulmers to relax with whilst waiting. After sitting down at a table and having my food I retreated back to my original position beneath the main screen with my pint to continue my peaceful enjoyment of the game.

With 15 minutes of the match remaining I left my daypack at my table and went to the bathroom for my first time. Returning after a minute or two I noticed my pint was no longer there. Not wanting a scene I went to the bar and politely ordered another pint but I also pointed out ''politely'' what had occurred. I do understand miskakes happen. I was not offered anything by way of compensation for my drink being lifted but it was acknoledged by your female member of staff that it was most likely the pint was taken when I went to the bathroom.

Upon returning to my seat with a fresh pint , a fellow customer approached and asked me if I was aware of what happened. I confirmed I knew my pint had been lifted by the staff. The other customer thought I wasn't standing up for my rights and I agreed but I repeat it was no big issue to me , mistakes as I said do happen.

What did annoy me though was the fact that by now the gentleman bartender must have seen me with my new pint and surely must have been aware of his error ; all it would have taken was a polite ''look , I am sorry for taking your drink when you were at the toilet Sir'' , although realistically a replacement would have been more apporpriate. I am in no doubt that this would have transpired in any respectable establishment.

When leaving your pub after my 90 minutes and 2 and a half pints I returned my empty glass as usual to the bar. I pointed out , again politely to the barman that it would have been nice if he had apologised to me for lifting the pint. He told me that he knew nothing about it , I sould apologise to him and I should p*** off. He was adamant that , when visiting the toilet I should have told someone to keep an eye on my pint ; is that really a requirement in a large pub which had only half-a-dozen customers within ?

Well I am sorry , but I do not believe that is any way to speak to an International visitor to Australia. I pointed that out to your barman and told him this was my last day in Australia and that I didnt want a debate. He responded abruptly that ''good , your not welcome here , now p*** off''

Three times your barman told me to p*** off before I cracked and told him he was an ignorant ar**hole. I stand by exactly what I said. I left the pub and had lit a cigarette to eleviate the hurt and then the barman came out too ; I told him not ever to tell me to p*** off again. Instead of now telling me to p*** off his words were the condescending ''please go away'' repeatedly. How dare he try and embarass me in front of the public like that.

Where I come from , customers are treated with dignity and respect , and I have experianced much politeness in your country and the the others I have been in the first six months of my year-long backpacking hioliday. Being a manager myself in customer relations having a career break I understand there is a time and a need to request patrons leave ; however I felt I was well within my rights today to complain to your staff and the reaction I got was nothing short of disgraceful.

I have enjoyment very much my time in australia but the attitude of your staff and that man in particular have left me upset and dissapointed.

I wait patiently on your comments.
Yours Sincerely

WDE, there are occasions in life when treating aggresssive, and unreasonable people is better managed by understanding than confrontation. Why did you not profer a mediating handshake, and































give the c*nt a Glesca kiss!
mortonjag 2007-05-27 17:51:55
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 27 2007, 05:40 PM) [snapback]279149[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

...Somehow I see 'Heil, Heil... as a bridge too far.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 17:55:58
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 27 2007, 05:45 PM) [snapback]279150[/snapback]
yes but he is a dick after his comments regarding us dry.gif

Don't you mean a piss artist Bryan?

He's still a good manager mind! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-27 17:57:36
QUOTE(The Naitch @ May 27 2007, 05:35 PM) [snapback]279145[/snapback]
Cheltenham Town

wolves
mortonjag 2007-05-27 18:07:41
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 27 2007, 05:09 PM) [snapback]279133[/snapback]
Anyone who applies should NOT be considered. Power hungry bassas. wink.gif
Good shout- they would get my votes.
Shuttit you.

The voice of experience! wink.gif

BTW-I have it on good authority from an entirely unreliable source that clapshot c*ck think's it's 'in the bag'.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 18:15:13
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 27 2007, 05:48 PM) [snapback]279151[/snapback]
I know lists is such a guy thing, so ladies and gay boys shy away.

Found a nice wee list of the top ten film monologues.

Col- you're going to love No 10 wink.gif

Cineaste's clicky

What do you think, what would you miss out.

Despite what Rabdul thinks I would keep Mel the antisemite but I would take out on the waterfront and replace it wie
this

....but you'll NEVER take our freedom-bet that gets the blood coursing through Drambuie Dick's veins as he tries to enforce his version on everybody else.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 18:16:19
QUOTE(SJ76 @ May 27 2007, 06:14 PM) [snapback]279158[/snapback]
Sh!t Midden, oh no sorry football teams, Sunderland?

Dungbarton
mortonjag 2007-05-27 18:18:15
QUOTE(Mr.Kennedy @ May 27 2007, 06:16 PM) [snapback]279161[/snapback]
Aye, you shoulda chibbed the cnut with your fork.

...or f*cked the c*nt with your chib!
mortonjag 2007-05-27 18:25:09
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 27 2007, 12:00 PM) [snapback]278948[/snapback]
Wild Boar! Tasty as feck. tongue.gif

What prat shoots game wie a revolver though?

Drunken 'Hun' on 'night out' at Grand Ole Opry.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 19:34:33
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 27 2007, 07:27 PM) [snapback]279174[/snapback]
Ifs & buts, whys & hows, who cares ? we'll see when we play them.

Obviously they'll be favourites for the title but they wont find it easy.
f*** off & die c0ck breath ! dry.gif

insulting poultry should be below your dignity.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 19:37:53
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 27 2007, 07:03 PM) [snapback]279170[/snapback]
MJ how did you get woves from cheltenham town ??????? unsure.gif unsure.gif unsure.gif

dementia! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-27 19:38:25
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 27 2007, 07:04 PM) [snapback]279171[/snapback]
Norwich

HamilTON
mortonjag 2007-05-27 19:40:19
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 27 2007, 07:38 PM) [snapback]279179[/snapback]
The vast majority of scientists believed the world was flat, the Sun revolved around the Earth and the Black Death caused by foul odours
Paisley was clearly fecked in 1348 laugh.gif

And the crusty old bigot's still taking it up the arse in 2007.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 19:42:08
QUOTE(Jackie @ May 27 2007, 07:03 PM) [snapback]279169[/snapback]
Contraaaaaversial unsure.gif

Not at all-children are smaller than pigs-EVERYBODY knows that.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 19:53:42
QUOTE(alexp @ May 27 2007, 07:50 PM) [snapback]279185[/snapback]
new york red bull

livingsTON
mortonjag 2007-05-27 21:44:21
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 27 2007, 09:34 PM) [snapback]279236[/snapback]
You must be a troll, he killed more than Hitler.

Dee burning black shame on you.

Actually, you're so f'cking thick you're sick mick in disguise. laugh.gif

Sick Mick's not thick-he's just misunderstood.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 21:48:52
QUOTE(shedhead @ May 27 2007, 08:27 PM) [snapback]279206[/snapback]
Ach well MJ , your "good proddy" team didn't do too well yesterday did it wink.gif tongue.gif

laugh.gif didn't do too well-that good King Billy sponsored Royalist lot from the 1st division made the orange cretin cripple gnome's shower of Tims look poor, and only a freak goal spared their blushes.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 22:03:30 The Madeleine McCann case is sub judice.

ANYTHING is possible, and while those who are best equipped to investigate the child's disappearance are still working tirelessly round the clock- her parents have planned an audience with the Pope on Wednesday.

FOR WHAT PURPOSE?

I assume that the Holy Father, if he tried hard enough, could persuade God to spill the beans, and put everybody out of his misery. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-27 22:21:27
QUOTE(WillowMan @ May 27 2007, 10:14 PM) [snapback]279281[/snapback]
Just seen that on Teletext and I was absolutely disgusted.

Is the Pope going to call on all good Catholics to 'OUT' Maddy's kidnappers.

Of course if they were Catholics they couldn't tell the police but they could confess this at their next visit.

FFS is this what, as I warned previously, Maddy's fund money is being wasted on mad.gif

So what next 'An Audience With The Queen' blink.gif

I await the dates of their World Tour sad.gif

With the Holy Father in a specially constructed Search Mobile.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 22:32:01
QUOTE(shedhead @ May 27 2007, 10:25 PM) [snapback]279295[/snapback]
MJ puts up the usual thread mentioning the Catholic church so guys like puggsy can come out with bigoted s***e like that. You huns are boring and predictable wink.gif

Shedhead as usual comes out with the paranoid spin, but at least he's had the balls this time to name and shame.

Puggsy's a bigot-all join the chant-Puggsy's a bigot, Puggsy's a bigot! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-27 22:36:57
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ May 27 2007, 10:31 PM) [snapback]279298[/snapback]
ThornTON

Suddenly I realise it should be St Nach0king.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 22:50:51
QUOTE(shedhead @ May 27 2007, 10:42 PM) [snapback]279312[/snapback]
If it walks like a hun , and talks like a hun . It's a hun tongue.gif

MJ's post was by no means bigoted , and does raise a point about what good this event will do. If the family are Catholics then going to the Pope for advice and strength isn't that crazy, although some people will have different opinions, which is fine.

What I hate is the usual stereotypical pish insinuating all priests are child molesters. It would also be interesting to see how many of the previous months posts have mentioned Catholics and compare that figure to the last month or two. Old man MJ would have been coming in his breeks (if he still had the ability) at the thought of posting another thread about the Catholic Church.

As I said shedhead-'Spin'.

It's not so much a thread about the Catholic Church, (though I seriously question its wisdom in involving itself in a sub judice matter) as about the McCanns.

Any sympathy I had is rapidly dissipating, and let me point out that until this case is solved, they are still police suspects.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 22:53:15
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 27 2007, 10:44 PM) [snapback]279316[/snapback]
Sorry I can't be of more help, but all I know is that it's been once ever since I can remember.

I thought it was kind of obvious though, I mean there's a picture of the Pope behind the bar?

Do they not pay the poor f*cker enough at the vatican?
mortonjag 2007-05-27 23:05:17
QUOTE(shedhead @ May 27 2007, 10:56 PM) [snapback]279328[/snapback]
The threads not about the catholic church , but that doesn't stop the usual "priests are peados" quote does it, yet you call me paranoid . I reckon you love mentioning Catholics as you know what effect it will have. Subtle stirring is what you excel in.

C'mon shedhead there's nothing subtle about the thread and it's not 'stirring'. FFS it's tonight's HEADLINE news.You just won't let go. The reason the Catholic Church crops up so often in legitimate debate is because it makes its stance clearly and openly on most major moral and political issues-FAR more than any of the other Christ based organisations.

That's all-no more, and no less. If the Church of Scotland started meddling in matters which I regarded as none of its business I'd be just as vociferous.
mortonjag 2007-05-27 23:14:28 The Madeleine McCann thread has disappeared with no warning or explanation-God moves in a mysterious way indeed! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-27 23:38:26
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ May 27 2007, 11:29 PM) [snapback]279376[/snapback]
Can understand why Nacho or whoever deleted it, but it was a pretty decent thread imo and it's a shame it was spoiled by the usual repeptitive nonsense about priests and whatever else...

It's nice to feel a sense of vindication EM-it is a shame as you say that that element got involved-it's also a shame that when somebody bothers to start perfectly legitimate threads on headline news, he's yet again made to look like some trouble maker.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 04:54:14
QUOTE(alexp @ May 27 2007, 10:10 PM) [snapback]279274[/snapback]
plus we wont have to use yeovil or york for like the 10th time
new hampshire phantoms

Stirling Albion
mortonjag 2007-05-28 04:58:34
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ May 27 2007, 11:13 PM) [snapback]279346[/snapback]
was out last night partaking in a few sociable beverages and the black cat was jumping, not a pub i would recommend, went into to use the fag machine and was met by choruses of ftq, shouting bout ira and the likes, total embarrasment to themselves, this is 2007 and i thought sectarianism of this level had stopped, so avoid the black cat at all costs and check out you tube for some videos of the antics that go on in there.

hmm- seems Mr trollbuster was correct-mind you with chants of FTQ, I'd describe them as desperados rather than bigots. ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-28 05:06:24
QUOTE(nach0king @ May 28 2007, 12:34 AM) [snapback]279473[/snapback]
In the other thread (censorship one I think?) I explained why. Basically... two years, I'm starting to get a wee bit hacked off and bitter, I'm making bad decisions, and I think someone fresh will do a better job. I'm not going away in the huff, I still plan on posting... that's about it biggrin.gif

As beermonkey predicted, I'm also preparing a Blair-esque legacy for myself, so we'll be invading a St. Mirren website soon in clear contravention of inter-district law, then I'll try my hand at wrecking the health service.

laugh.gif fait accompli-any other ideas?
mortonjag 2007-05-28 05:12:13
QUOTE(shedhead @ May 27 2007, 11:41 PM) [snapback]279397[/snapback]
I really didn't have a problem with your post, it was when the usual priests are peados jokes started. Bad taste all round considering the missing girl.

Agreed for once-the 'dirty beasts' are men-just like the rest of us, and frequently fall into sin on the celibacy issue, but that was not an appropriate thread for flippancy.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 05:19:30
QUOTE(shedhead @ May 27 2007, 11:47 PM) [snapback]279408[/snapback]
I acknowledge that , although if the family are religious then it is not unusual for them to attempt to draw strength from their faith.

EXACTLY shedhead, and IMHO most normal religious families would long since have come quietly home and enlisted that strength locally.

That's precisely my point-I cannot BELIEVE the Catholic Church would be daft enough to WANT a part in the McCann's misguided publicity-especially when all things are still possible with regard to ultimate culpability.

It has had the issue thrust upon it deliberately by the McCann/Media bleat fest, and has made a decision in haste which it may well rue at leisure.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 05:29:12
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 28 2007, 12:10 AM) [snapback]279435[/snapback]
Its a bit too early to resume anything. The girl or a suspect has not been found. Let's face it , ANYONE around that chalet could have taken her. They could be a first offender so a database is futile. The important thing is to let the polis try their best - its not as if they deliberately dont want to find her

I like your Holmesian approach, and you are spot on.

Until the truth is known, EVERYTHING is possible.

From the very outset I've been totally baffled by the behaviour of two highly intelligent parents.

I commented before that Mr McCann would be very unhappy if some Portuguese cop tried to oversee his operations, yet as a (presumably) logical Professional, he is trying to 'run the show' even when he has not been eliminated from the enquiry, and now he's got the Church embroiled in a matter which is still sub judice.

Bizarre.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 05:39:24
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 27 2007, 11:21 PM) [snapback]279361[/snapback]
Yeah and he'd likely swallow it whole as all parents do for their fledglings, and then make a swift exit...what a dodo!

I'm not eggsactly sure what to get for the bird's birthday tweet. My kids are chirping in and may be hatching a plot-lets hope they don't C0CK it up or I'll be ducking the blame.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 05:42:12
QUOTE(Lisa @ May 28 2007, 01:19 AM) [snapback]279492[/snapback]
my dad made my brother a steak at half 11 the other night :/
i got a scone mellow.gif

unsure.gif was that your wee wee brother, or just a mega steak?
mortonjag 2007-05-28 05:54:18 [quote name='Donkey Dave' date='May 28 2007, 01:26 AM' post='279496']
Yes wink.gif rolleyes.gif tongue.gif This is the annual Deego close season lets wind some people up thread...
Wages are a very subjective matter - the worth of a job can be viewed in many ways and not just its value to the individual getting paid for it - who should get paid the most - a qualified lawyer or someone who can ride a unicycle? (Please note that these two positions are not mutually exclusive - although a lawyer on a unicylce would probably get done with contempt of court!). Most social commentators and management thinkers will contend that money may not be a great motivator up to a certain level. However, it can be a great de-motivator if you think or you know that someone is getting paid more than you. Obviously within a football club there are no agreed national pay rates and everyone is entitled to 'negotiate' their own contract terms. This means that there could possibly be great disparity between what certain individuals are being paid - in my opinion it would not be wise to broadcast these matters over an interent message board.

In theory you are correct-in practice it will be pretty unusual for individual players in any squad, anywhere, not to have a pretty good idea of relative wages, even if not down to the last penny.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 06:05:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 28 2007, 05:42 AM) [snapback]279518[/snapback]
Pub owner-manager Tom McFeely said the move was necessary to provide gay men a non-threatening atmosphere to freely express their sexuality.
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http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=269594
I think his brother-in-law is Mick McFeely Uppy.

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif


It's full of unconscious innuendo-Mr McFeely 'won the right to refuse entry to heterosexuals'- I wouldn't have imagined they'd be interested in him, and stated 'those heterosexuals have other places to go to-my homosexuals do not'-indeed Mr McFeely-it's a cruel world for a gay man!
mortonjag 2007-05-28 06:16:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 28 2007, 06:03 AM) [snapback]279523[/snapback]
Doesn't he get an eternal pension plan ???

huh.gif

Only after his estate's been settled and Clerical Medical have paid out.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 06:26:45 ONLY ONE WORD is allowed, and you can only nominate one poster whom it best describes.

A short piece of explanatory text is permissable but should normally be superfluous-so here goes

Insurrectionist-Colkitto

Obsessional-Tonsilitis

Arrogant-ThornTON

Avuncular-Tom McB

Martyr- Nach0king

Satirist- Ton in Dublin

etc.






mortonjag 2007-05-28 06:30:38
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 28 2007, 06:19 AM) [snapback]279526[/snapback]
As Mr McFeely has a gay monopoly, is anyone interested it starting up in opposition ??

huh.gif

McFeely may well have shot himself in the foot NewTon-he's done all the hard work, and now the floodgates may open-ffs the competiton may force the poor bugger out.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 06:31:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 28 2007, 06:26 AM) [snapback]279527[/snapback]
Newcastle Jets

Sunderland
mortonjag 2007-05-28 06:50:55
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 28 2007, 06:41 AM) [snapback]279532[/snapback]
Can't stand watching cars drive around in circles for hours.....be it NASCAR, Indy Cara, Formula 1, or anything else like it.

Besides, I can actually "take part" in a "race" on the Autobahn whenever I want to.... wink.gif

I do have to say, though, that Danica Patrick is gorgeous. I would like to see her win it at least one. She keeps coming close to it, but she doesn't win.

To enjoy motorsport you've actually got to be at the trackside (or on it)-TV can never convey everything that brings it to life- the noises of the engines, the smell of fuel, rubber, and smoke, the vast array of colours on the cars and spectators clothes, the crowd reaction and so on. Yesterday I watched the start of the Monaco Grand Prix, and switched off. I was certain that barring mechanical failure Alonso and Hamilton would stay ahead, but I'd still LOVE the chance to go there next time around.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 06:56:49
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 28 2007, 06:49 AM) [snapback]279533[/snapback]
It's well-known in the military, but it isn't in civilian life, that the actions of family members can have detrimental effects on the careers of their family members (especially direct members).

....and in this specific instance, in the event of an expose, constituents who dislike Mick's father would have a 'field day', while those who voted him in might be wondering-'Like son-like father?', and reconsidering the wisdom of their decisions.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 06:59:07
QUOTE(shedhead @ May 28 2007, 06:56 AM) [snapback]279535[/snapback]
Maybe so , but could you imagine the negative press if the Vatican turned its back on the family.

Oh indeed, in PRECISELY the same way as Gerry McCann did! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-28 07:03:43
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 28 2007, 06:59 AM) [snapback]279540[/snapback]
Yea, but what about Danica Patrick.....? wub.gif

dry.gif reasonably winsome young brunette in motor racing gear-bit young for me Trick, but that's only based on looking!
mortonjag 2007-05-28 07:05:45
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 28 2007, 06:03 AM) [snapback]279522[/snapback]
True.

Oh wait, did he disappear again?

IT
mortonjag 2007-05-28 07:27:00
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 28 2007, 07:05 AM) [snapback]279543[/snapback]
She's 25. 15 years younger than I, but what the hell....... smile.gif

The age difference isn't really the issue-it's a question of RELATIVE maturity.

Why would a 25 year old lass with the world at her feet pick some 'wet behind the ears' celeb of a similar age when she could have all the advantages and experience of an older man-but they do it all the time, and probably 80% or more are divorced within five years.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 07:31:59
QUOTE(big B @ May 28 2007, 07:17 AM) [snapback]279545[/snapback]
Don't start this crap again.

It's TRUE, but I agree that we should wait and see what he does next.

He got his fingers well and truly burned with the 'fit young talent' philosophy, and hopefully he's learned by his mistakes.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 07:56:17
QUOTE(WullTon @ May 28 2007, 07:52 AM) [snapback]279550[/snapback]
We have made an offer for him on loan and it has been accepted just waiting for him to choose who he wants to go to as there were a number of loan offers for him.

If he's a genuine striker-I've no problem with him coming here as competition for Linn-so long as we don't get any more of the nonsense we had with McGowan, AND so long as it doesn't stop us getting an experienced player instead.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 08:39:52
QUOTE(stuart @ May 28 2007, 08:10 AM) [snapback]279552[/snapback]
Yeah you would be able to live on 300-400 pounds a week unless you wanted diamond encrusted football boots and a big crown to wear when you were doing the shopping.

Depends on so much-a young single guy should be able to 'live on' that income-what about a 23 year old married player with a wife and child, where they feel 'Mum' should be at home with the baby?
mortonjag 2007-05-28 08:44:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 28 2007, 08:31 AM) [snapback]279556[/snapback]
I can actually "take part" in a "race" on the Autobahn whenever I want to....
Gidday Trick,

You would want to choose your opposition carefully, mate, or are you suggesting a handicap start ?

huh.gif

ohmy.gif 'opposition'-have you SEEN Trick's monster NewTon?
mortonjag 2007-05-28 08:52:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 28 2007, 08:35 AM) [snapback]279557[/snapback]
Giiday mortonjag,

How can he have an estate, mate ?

Did he ever receive anything more than board and lodging from the Roman Catholic Church ?

huh.gif huh.gif

Having quickly taken legal advice-I'll venture a guess!

The Papa will surely be entitled to personal assets-is he forbidden to receive gifts of any kind-and I'd imagine he gets paid a few Euro by the Church-so who knows-he may have a private estate where he can occasionally take a short break from the rigours of 'Holiness'.

There again, that may be incorrect.


Without predjudice, 28/05/07

Mortonjag.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 08:59:55
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 28 2007, 08:49 AM) [snapback]279561[/snapback]
Yes, mortonjag, I have seen Trick's gas guzzler.

There are for sale here in Oz ... but they have been panned by the automotive press for their RELATIVE lack of grunt, compared with GMH and FOMOCO products ... and of course the top European makes.

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I sense some xenophobic hype re. the Europeans-there's so little real difference in grunt that it's much more down to the drivers balls or lack of them than anything else.

Mind you my wee Saab's quicker than the lot and it's Swedish American! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-28 09:02:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 28 2007, 08:58 AM) [snapback]279565[/snapback]
Roman Catholic priests do not get paid in the sense that people in the business world are paid.

However, priests receive monetary compensation to provide for necessities, to buy and maintain an automobile, to take vacations, and to do normal recreational activities.

Also, priests are provided room and board by the parish for which they work.

smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

laugh.gif

Would that be the BARE necessities? huh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-28 09:47:30
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 28 2007, 09:19 AM) [snapback]279571[/snapback]
Much as i would love to, i dont have the time. Maybe they should try female admin, have any girlies applied yet?

ThornTON would be prime suspect.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 09:49:44
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 28 2007, 09:47 AM) [snapback]279588[/snapback]
Brazil

nut
mortonjag 2007-05-28 09:56:49
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 28 2007, 09:30 AM) [snapback]279578[/snapback]
If a pub owner demanded the right to only allow heterosexuals in, there would be an outcry. Anti-discrimination only works if it's applied uniformly.

Anyway, how does he tell?

...interesting points-he'd never have got away with it here-f*ck all to do with sexual preference-one sex pubs are simply illegal.

How does he tell-VERY interesting-'camp' doesn't mean gay-'butch' doesn't negate gay-maybe they have to undergo proctoscopic and oral examination by a surgeon and dentist and await the result of swabs, histology, etc., but then they might be gay virgins- I guess Mr McFeeley's going to have egg all over his face, if not something more basic.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 09:59:24
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ May 28 2007, 09:54 AM) [snapback]279597[/snapback]
Breef

knicker
mortonjag 2007-05-28 10:02:04
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 28 2007, 09:26 AM) [snapback]279576[/snapback]
We will win division 1 next season.

With the present squad-not a snowball's chance in hell. With three or four wise signings-YES.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 10:04:04
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 28 2007, 10:00 AM) [snapback]279602[/snapback]
bockerglory!

beckerhunter
mortonjag 2007-05-28 10:14:29
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ May 28 2007, 10:04 AM) [snapback]279611[/snapback]
OT: how was your holiday SW

vacation NE
mortonjag 2007-05-28 10:15:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 28 2007, 10:06 AM) [snapback]279614[/snapback]
Yackandandah

hamilTON
mortonjag 2007-05-28 13:53:45
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 28 2007, 11:16 AM) [snapback]279644[/snapback]
It would take a lot of voters: Mick's father won by a landslide blink.gif
Despite my best attempts to peresuade people to vote SNP
Bizarre voting as usual in the East End.
The old "monkey with a red rosette" theory can be applied in this ward. mad.gif

The monkey wishes to state that he has no connection with Rangers or with red rosettes.

He also observes that far from the opposite, the size of the majority and alleged simplicity of the electorate guarantees a massive 'swing' against the incumbent, given appropriate media spin, as such individuals are incapable of independent reasoning.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 14:03:14
QUOTE(cornbeef @ May 28 2007, 01:23 PM) [snapback]279714[/snapback]
Haven't read all of Mick's stuff but he does seem to have an interesting take on life. I don't think he deserves to have his old man dragged into this (by MJ and others ?) with thinly veiled threats of exposure in the papers etc. Really think that's a low baller by people who feel they are not making an impression on Mick. This smacks of ." I'm going to tell yer dad you've been cheeky to me on the forum "

Having said that , maybe Mick has had a negative effect on here with his ramblings - with Shedhead joining in saying the forum members/ support are 'anti Catholic' I don't appreciate this 'sh1te patter ' on a Morton forum.

The threats about his Da' are well out of order IMO.

Then stop making provocative and inaccurate allegations, and go back and read all of the posts.

How DARE you accuse me of 'dragging his old man in', and 'threats of exposure in the papers'!

Poor show cornbeef-get it into context-NO threat was made-a legitimate question was posed-no more-no less.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 14:11:41
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ May 28 2007, 02:01 PM) [snapback]279753[/snapback]
bagells laugh.gif

doughnuts
mortonjag 2007-05-28 14:25:25
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 28 2007, 12:34 PM) [snapback]279698[/snapback]
If we sign old gits i will be raging.
"Experience" and "old" are two different things.
IMO some players already at the club should be showing experience in their play.

Hmm, so are 'old', and 'git'.

'Young' and 'experienced', may not be mutually exclusive, but has an odd ring to it.

Experience is needed in combination with authority, and young players are not wont to take a lead from other youngsters unless the latter are utterly exceptional.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 14:27:47
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 28 2007, 02:13 PM) [snapback]279764[/snapback]
Deego and Wullton

Tweedledum and Tweedledee
mortonjag 2007-05-28 14:28:24
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 28 2007, 02:19 PM) [snapback]279768[/snapback]
Elgin

Notts County
mortonjag 2007-05-28 14:35:40
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 28 2007, 02:22 PM) [snapback]279772[/snapback]
how about a gorilla? laugh.gif
In theory this is correct, but as everyone knows the tabloid rags will back Labour for eternity. sad.gif
The Tele also gives Homo McNeil a platform on which to voice his innane ramblings mad.gif

I don't live in Inverclyde and know very little about this McNeil person.

I've gathered he's a labour councillor for the East End, who doesn't support Rangers, and someone else has informed me on the Board that he is the putative father of Sick Mick.

Is that it?
mortonjag 2007-05-28 14:41:23 If we all try hard enough we could do something similar.

It would do sweet f*ck all to help the wee soul in the extremely unlikely event that she's still alive, but it would be fantastic publicity for Morton Supporters-eh?
mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-28 14:53:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 28 2007, 02:38 PM) [snapback]279798[/snapback]
He is the esteemed MSP for Greenock and Inverclyde, who spent the last eight years doing Churchill dog impressions while McConnell spoke in Parliament. He is also a Rangers supporter and looks like an undefined ape-like creature.
I would post a picture of him but it would f*** the thread laugh.gif

Well bless my soul! I am humbled-an MSP's son has been gracing the pages of our little publication!

Not THE Rt. Hon. Mr. McNeill M.S.P., a man who has daily rubbed shoulders with such political giants as Sheridan and Kane.

Just one further question. If indeed he is a 'Hun', and the putative fruit of his loins is a 'Tim', is he a 'lifelong Hun', or merely a 'Hun of convenience'?

mortonjag 2007-05-28 15:02:38
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 28 2007, 02:56 PM) [snapback]279825[/snapback]
No no no!
The son on this publication is son of Councillor McCormick not Homo McNeil
Apologies if I caused confusion

In saying that, mebbe you know more about the topic than I do.... huh.gif laugh.gif

The monkey is more confused than ever!

Let's start all over. Sick Mick is Mick McCormick, putative son of Mr McCormick senior, who is a Labour councillor for the East End?

Mr McNeill is an M.S.P. , a homo, and looks like a bulldog?

So which one's the 'Hun'?
mortonjag 2007-05-28 15:05:20
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 28 2007, 02:42 PM) [snapback]279806[/snapback]
pinky & perky

oink oink
mortonjag 2007-05-28 15:09:24
QUOTE(xj2006 @ May 28 2007, 03:02 PM) [snapback]279833[/snapback]
thanks for shedding some light

didnt know what it meant actually but just thought it sounded slightly OTT

people suffer loss daily, why they should be treated any different, considering their folly of leaving her unattended is what gets me.

However I would like to re-iterate that I sincerely hope the child is found safe and sound.

As would I, AND that the perpetrator or perpetrators, so far unidentified, of this heinous crime are rapidly brought to account despite the massive deflection of public attention away from the real issue.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 15:18:36
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 28 2007, 03:07 PM) [snapback]279843[/snapback]

LIBEL

As you seem to be privy to much information, how do you see the denial just made by Sick Mick-has the 'Hampden experience' finally brought him to his senses? Is he perhaps Mick Doe, AND son of Mr McCormick who's not a 'Hun' or bulldog or M.S.P., and may or may not be a 'Tim'-the confusion just goes on. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-28 15:26:35
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 28 2007, 03:19 PM) [snapback]279863[/snapback]
Can I not be a councillor\'s son without being McCormick\'s son?

Or is he the only one in this toon? wink.gif

My 'old man', R.I.P.,who definitely WAS my 'old man' 'cos my Mum told me, held 'Labour Cooncillors' in scant regard, and was often heard to say, 'They all dine in a common trough', or 'You've seen one, you've seen the lot'.

My 'old man' was an extremely intelligent, perceptive, and logical bod, with little more than a passing allegiance to any political party.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 15:29:33
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 28 2007, 03:28 PM) [snapback]279886[/snapback]
Puggsy

puggy
mortonjag 2007-05-28 15:32:06
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 28 2007, 03:28 PM) [snapback]279885[/snapback]
A trough is too upper class for a Labour councillor, they eat off the ground itself.

Nothing if not practical, it could be said.

I don't necessarily agree with everything my 'old man' said, but on every issue where I've disagreed in the past, he's ultimately been proved correct.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 15:41:12
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 28 2007, 03:31 PM) [snapback]279896[/snapback]
Mark Yardley again laugh.gif

Luke Footley
mortonjag 2007-05-28 15:49:38
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 28 2007, 03:06 PM) [snapback]279842[/snapback]
I'm looking at Protein Digestion as a write this now laugh.gif

Then a question for you-re Atkins diet etc.

If the calorie content of a piece of lean meat is given as 100 kcal, and is identical to a that of a chunk of carbohydrate, how many calories are used respectively simply in the process of digestion.

I'm leaving fat out at the moment as it has a different calorific content per gram, and the monkey doesn't like talking about it on Mondays.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 15:56:08
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 28 2007, 03:52 PM) [snapback]279932[/snapback]
I'm doing chemistry not biology
although I do biology as well ph34r.gif
i have no idea, ask Tom McB, he is the oracle of all information (so he thinks) wink.gif

Ah THAT protein digestion-double entendres et tout ca!

Sorry to have been of trouble-one chemistry question though-If you immerse a coin in Aqua Regia and remove it after it has dissolved to half the original size, will the inscription still be legible?
mortonjag 2007-05-28 16:05:29
QUOTE(GMC @ May 28 2007, 03:31 PM) [snapback]279895[/snapback]
Linn hasn't exactly impressed, has he?

Never mind the "he's hardly played blah blah blah", he has had plenty of chances in front of goal in that time, has been offside god know how many times, and wasted so many chances it's unbelieveable. He was never a natural goalscorer as some on here think,[b] so he's not just going to become one playing for Morton.[/b]

I will be happy if we bring Lennon in, although I don't know where that would leave McGowan.

Point 1/ Agreed-but he must have impressed those who thought he was worth signing.

Point 2/ Follows on point 1/ Ask some Bloo Toon fans for their opinions on the present situation.

The way I saw it was that he was so desperate to prove himself here that he was unable to relax WHEN he got a chance to replace striker supreme McGowan, and frequently made a hash of it.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 16:11:25
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 28 2007, 03:59 PM) [snapback]279937[/snapback]
Doubt it, if the coin is reacting it would react according to collision theory ie the coin surfaces would react . If the inscriptions are only on the surface and the coin is halved in mass then all the surface must be gone, alongwith the inscriptions.

Would half of the inscriptions not remain and still be legible-there IS a way of working this out!
mortonjag 2007-05-28 16:23:53
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 28 2007, 04:01 PM) [snapback]279942[/snapback]
I wish. No, I''ve been a lifelong fan and his avatar is as good as any I reckon. World class writer so he was.

He spent some of his childhood in Maybole. When I was a youngster and had read a couple of his books, I discovered that my Aunt's Mother in Law-who was then well into her nineties, but sharp as a tack, had also spent her early life there.

Hoping for some nice 'name dropping' material, I asked her, 'Did you know Robert Louis Stevenson'?

She paused, and in all seriousness replied, 'I remember him, but it was really his father we knew'.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 16:26:21
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 28 2007, 04:19 PM) [snapback]279955[/snapback]
Not if they are on the surface only.
For the coin to lose half its size it would lose that mass from the surface first. As the inscriptions are on the surface they would disappear, no? unsure.gif
Get Tom McB's opinion, he teaches the subject

I was testing you-this is not a matter of opinion-I've DONE IT!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-28 16:27:11
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ May 28 2007, 04:24 PM) [snapback]279961[/snapback]
wouldn't the inscription stay? if it was to be wiped, that would imply that some areas of the surface were losing atoms at a greater rate than others.

wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-28 16:38:35
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 28 2007, 04:31 PM) [snapback]279970[/snapback]
You don't need aqua regia. Unless the coil is gold. Concentrated nitric is what I use for a nice demonstration.
Not quite
Still wrong
Closest to the truth. If the surface was eaten away at the same rate over the coin then the inscriptions would stay at the same height relative to the coin ( I need my blackboard here rolleyes.gif )
In reality stressed areas like the inscriptions are more reactive towards the acid and so diminish faster than the undisturbed surface.
I've found that the inscriptions are still visible when a 2p coin is thin enough to be bent by hand.

Mr Trollbuster, I discovered this all for myself in Pishley Grammer at the age of 15, by dropping an old wooden threepenny into a beaker of aqua regia, while 'Wee Hitler' was out for his fag.

If I'd been caught, I'd definitely have got six.

We also used to put old halfpennies on the rail at the local station when the Princes Pier Express was about to go through, and retrieved them as 'pennies'.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 17:21:26
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 28 2007, 04:39 PM) [snapback]279981[/snapback]
was this before or after the war? tongue.gif

Which?
mortonjag 2007-05-28 17:23:36 The truth is out there.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 17:42:37
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 28 2007, 05:28 PM) [snapback]280028[/snapback]
Awaiting imminent wrath of CB, Manchesterton, Mortonjag and chrissiboi
Batten down the hatches ph34r.gif

Haven't seen or heard of Manchesterton for ages-is he OK?

I wouldn't DREAM of TELLING anybody he was wrong-even when it was staring me in the face! smile.gif

My two main complaints about Gowser:

1/ He is not, and never will be a striker

2/ Through no fault of his own, his playing 'up front' did us more harm than good. I have never on any occasion had anything but praise for his natural ability and attitude. JM was the culprit-not the wee man.

His (JM's) obsession with the Millar , Stevenson, McLaughlin, Jimbo chorus line was at times nothing short of a farce. Talk about 'horses for courses'- changing things around depending on the opposition, or dips in form, or just trying a new approach? No way-every one of those four had significant off spells, but barring injury, and in Millar's case the last few weeks, it was NO CHANGE.

Meanwhile the 'wee man' could frequently be seen running around like a headless chicken in midfield, or always trying to beat that extra man in the box-his finishing at times was woeful, and surprise surprise, the right back scored more than the 'striker'. maybe they should try that 'right back' as a striker-what's his name?

If JM had had the wit to drop one of his favourites and give Gowser a genuine attacking midfield role, leaving competition for places (competition which should have included Walker and Keenan), we'd have bagged promotion earlier-GUARANTEED.

And don't anybody accuse me of being wise after the fact. I've said it all-a LONG time ago.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 17:48:38
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 28 2007, 05:45 PM) [snapback]280042[/snapback]
With a view like that i will never accuse you of being wise laugh.gif

Thats fine by me, so long as you don't now produce some counter treatise,'cos if you do you'll be told in no uncertain terms that you're WRONG wink.gif !
mortonjag 2007-05-28 17:53:21
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 28 2007, 05:42 PM) [snapback]280040[/snapback]
Did that without the data booklet tongue.gif

Cu2-uryyx1/2+icuryy4me mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-28 17:55:18
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 28 2007, 05:23 PM) [snapback]280019[/snapback]
the Boer war tongue.gif

wh*re you calling a Boer ya young upstart?

PS-latest perfectly accepable dictionary word ye cannae do on this daft board.


WH0RE
mortonjag 2007-05-28 17:58:04
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 28 2007, 05:54 PM) [snapback]280055[/snapback]
Whats that the formula for?

processed tripe and onions in aspic jelly!

It's not a formula-think laterally and just read what it says! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-28 18:05:09
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 28 2007, 05:58 PM) [snapback]280059[/snapback]
Ye cannae use it cos u missed the apostrophe tongue.gif laugh.gif

The omission was intentional to rhyme with 'who're', and boer.

AND you evaded the question!
mortonjag 2007-05-28 18:12:22
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 28 2007, 05:50 PM) [snapback]280047[/snapback]
I'm never wrong mad.gif
Merely misinformed laugh.gif

Irrespective of your being right, wrong, informed, misinformed, opinionated, or non-commital-somebody on this bloody board will think you're WRONG-and unless you're extremely fortunate, and have just crossed a hag's palm with silver, you'll find your post deleted on the account of some halfwit's pique.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 18:39:31
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 28 2007, 06:17 PM) [snapback]280073[/snapback]
Can you get deleted for being wrong? huh.gif
Wouldn't that make the forum concept obsolete? laugh.gif

Only your 'POST' can be deleted not your person, unsure.gif though there is a theory that post and person may be incontrovertibly one and the same.

Des somebody-Cartes I think-'cogito ergo sum'-I think therefore I am-yer post's yer thoughts and yer very existence so every time a post is deleted a little bit of YOU is lost into the ether, which brings us back to that wee 'Hun' striker-is he really any good?
mortonjag 2007-05-28 18:43:58
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 28 2007, 06:08 PM) [snapback]280063[/snapback]
Aye but if u ommit a letter so it becomes a sweary word then it still looks like a sweary word. I'll experiment:
"Michelle McManus is a fat who're"

I bow to the voice of experience!
mortonjag 2007-05-28 18:45:07
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 28 2007, 06:16 PM) [snapback]280072[/snapback]
Close scamp!

It's "see you two you are too wise by half and I see you are too wise for me."

wink.gif the brains o' the workin' classes Trollbuster! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-28 18:47:17
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 28 2007, 06:45 PM) [snapback]280093[/snapback]
Not experience
Its common knowledge wink.gif

1st, second, or both?
I always took it she sang for her supper! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-28 18:50:12
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 28 2007, 06:48 PM) [snapback]280096[/snapback]
She does more than that wink.gif laugh.gif

Dearie me-mind you she has got quite a bonny face.

No doubt somebody somewhere will now be associating who're with Boniface and deletion is imminent.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 19:31:01
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 28 2007, 07:01 PM) [snapback]280111[/snapback]
Popular - Mortonjag

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-28 19:32:46
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 28 2007, 06:58 PM) [snapback]280105[/snapback]
This thread started with Madeleine Mccann and now its ended up talking about Michelle McManus sex antics?
Dirty minds galore laugh.gif

Investigative minds! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-28 19:34:50
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 28 2007, 01:59 PM) [snapback]279751[/snapback]
ow-long do you think we can chirp on like this? maybe we should branch out to other species, or will that ruffle too many feathers? I certainly wouldn't want it to tern boring...

I've been fishing for a different angle-as the sole posters we're beginning to flounder.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 19:37:47
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 28 2007, 07:34 PM) [snapback]280119[/snapback]
Madeleine McCann to Michelle McManus through the laws of chemistry.
Inspired minds! laugh.gif

Have to disagree-definitely an evolutionary process though not entirely Darwinesque-Bahomey could perhaps help if he's not f*cked back off to his garrett.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 19:39:39
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 28 2007, 07:23 PM) [snapback]280115[/snapback]
Footloose rolleyes.gif

kick off
mortonjag 2007-05-28 19:43:22 Anybody else read 'motor mouth's 'piss take' on PC.

I thought it was excellent-especially the bit about no longer being allowed to describe gangs as 'gangs'.

Mr Clarkson for Admin Nach0 wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-28 19:48:49
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 28 2007, 06:59 PM) [snapback]280108[/snapback]
HMP Greenock

Give the poor lad a chance-I bet 'a pound to a penny' he was abused as a child, had learning difficulties, was systematically bullied throughout schooldays, lost 27 relatives in one year to an extremely rare form of tennis elbow, and grew up in a deprived area.

Add to that the fact he's an evil little c*nt at heart, and you can easily see he NEVER had a chance.

More to be pitied? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-28 19:53:16
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 28 2007, 07:42 PM) [snapback]280125[/snapback]
mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

Internazionale

England

Edinburgh United
mortonjag 2007-05-28 19:57:09
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 28 2007, 07:54 PM) [snapback]280131[/snapback]
That was in the sun last week. unsure.gif

Guess the scottish sun is a few days behind. mellow.gif

laugh.gif Indeed as is the Scottish moon, and as for the Scottish stars-they f*ck off to England. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-28 20:01:35
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ May 28 2007, 07:55 PM) [snapback]280133[/snapback]
There is a WOMENS toilet, albeit its one toilet, bit of a sh1t hole now, actually walked out of it a couple of weeks ago cos of all the bigotry, and went to the celtic, just got that in there before anyone classes me as a bigoted hun!

It's a crying shame that you can't even answer the call of nature without being offended-is it piped in over the tannoy? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-28 20:02:42
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 28 2007, 07:57 PM) [snapback]280137[/snapback]
Begin

borrowin
mortonjag 2007-05-28 20:39:36
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 28 2007, 08:04 PM) [snapback]280141[/snapback]
Stealin

coal
mortonjag 2007-05-28 20:47:23
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 28 2007, 08:36 PM) [snapback]280163[/snapback]
My concern about Gowser was on more than a few occasions especially away from home he was quiet but at that time we didn't have a ready replacement Templeman , Lilley and McGowan we should always have competation for every place in the team .
Then when we got rid of Lilley and brought in Linn it was the opposite scenario with Templeman having no direct replacement .
JM seems obsessed with changing players prefered positions how long did we have to wait before we seen Stevenson in his natural role .
I thought McGowan did make space for others but how many times did he then fail to pass the ball to gain advantage .
On the day we took 9 off of Forfar McGowan didn't get on the score sheet despite having several good chances .
If we get this lad Lennon then there can't be any conditions like he must start every game .
We must ensure that our season is not hampered doing the OF a turn .

I agree, if only because nobody else will chrissiboi, but you KNOW I DO! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-28 20:50:55
QUOTE(Up the Ton @ May 28 2007, 08:45 PM) [snapback]280169[/snapback]
ha ha good point, who got relegated btw ??
huh.gif

Kenny arrived at the Pars one game too late-lucky, lucky Skunks! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-28 20:55:14
QUOTE(Up the Ton @ May 28 2007, 08:43 PM) [snapback]280166[/snapback]
C'mon Mortonjag, you've got to admit this guys patter is pure p1sh, "come on back....if you're not scared". Who says that kinda stuff on an Internet forum.
Who, only a yoghurt....

apologies btw if he's a wee bit slow or anything.

You don't understand him any more than he you-he's a cultured American gentleman who shoots real guns-not those piffling wee Feegie sawn off efforts-just call him 'Sir', and you'll maybe last another season, unlike that jammy crew of skunk liquorice allsorts masquerading as men.
mortonjag 2007-05-28 20:58:12
QUOTE(Up the Ton @ May 28 2007, 08:55 PM) [snapback]280176[/snapback]
I dont really get your point, he had about half the season to do a job. More time than many managers have had and produced better results ie Curbs. He took on Dunfermline when they were 4 points adrift and finished the season with them..... 4 points adrift, in effect he done, well nothing.

There wasn't any point-but did you expect me to give you credit? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-29 06:53:51
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 28 2007, 08:38 PM) [snapback]280164[/snapback]
Thank cod for that - we're bound to scale new heights now, time to flex our pun making mussels.....

And no need for us to be the sole members in the plaice.

Maybe a wee joke would lure some drifters.

At a gig, salmon pulled a mussel and had to limpet home.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 06:57:46
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 28 2007, 09:06 PM) [snapback]280189[/snapback]
There's something decidedly camp about your picture Chucky Boy. Why are you holding two hair dryers ?

Presumably DE, unlike your post ablutional efforts with a paper tissue, Chuck has to deal with a pubic foot.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 07:04:16
QUOTE(McCauley87 @ May 28 2007, 09:44 PM) [snapback]280215[/snapback]
Hakkinen did have skill and did do well to win the driver's titles but he wasn't much better than DC but he was not anything special and wouldn't have won those titles without the help of Ron Dennis and DC. There is a good number of drivers over recent years who are just as good as Hakkinen and maybe better. Granted, DC was given opportunities at the starts of the season but DC and Hakkinen were never on a level playing field, when their overall ability was very similar.

They're all f*ckin' millionaires anyway!

For what it's worth we've got two great drivers in the McLaren team, and Hamilton has the makings of superstardom.

DC is a rich man's spoilt brat who's now much richer than his Da, and good at shagging. On the race track he usually gets shagged.

Oh and he wears a square helmet.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 07:08:22
QUOTE(The Naitch @ May 29 2007, 12:17 AM) [snapback]280253[/snapback]
Stuttgart

Toottinghum hotspurts
mortonjag 2007-05-29 07:13:56
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 29 2007, 02:04 AM) [snapback]280268[/snapback]
Scotland's Dario Franchitti has won the 91st running of the Indianapolis 500 after the race was halted by rain after 165 of the 200 scheduled laps.

Scot Franchitti clinches Indy 500

EBC web site

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/6696125.stm

Strange that he is not British.

Perhaps he will become British, if he keeps winning.

huh.gif huh.gif

FFS Newton ask Colkitto-with a name like Franchitti you can almost smell the whisky on his breath. He only flies out for the race and heads straight back to his wee butt and ben in Barra to pick his nose and C0CKLES.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 07:16:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 29 2007, 02:59 AM) [snapback]280273[/snapback]
Home Energy Advice Team

Fire brigade
mortonjag 2007-05-29 07:17:44
QUOTE(McInally`s Monkey @ May 29 2007, 12:08 AM) [snapback]280252[/snapback]
Who? Me?

Nope-THE monkey-he's on your left!
mortonjag 2007-05-29 07:18:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 29 2007, 05:55 AM) [snapback]280276[/snapback]

Jesus.


Do you like his application ?

huh.gif

Oh my--- God.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 07:23:51
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 29 2007, 05:50 AM) [snapback]280275[/snapback]
Two 90 year old men, Mike and Joe, have been friends all of their lives.

When it's clear that Joe is dying, Mike visits him every day. One day Mike
says, "Joe, we both loved football all our lives, and we played football on
Saturdays together for so many years. Please do me one favour, When you
get to Heaven, somehow you must let me know if there's football there."

Joe looks up at Mike from his death bed," Mike, you've been my best friend
for many years. If it's at all possible, I'll do this favour for you.

Shortly after that, Joe passes on.

At midnight a couple of nights later, Mike is awakened from a sound sleep
by a blinding flash of white light and a voice calling out to him, "Mike--Mike."

"Who is it? asks Mike sitting up suddenly. "Who is it?"

"Mike--it's me, Joe."

"You're not Joe. Joe just died."

"I'm telling you, it's me, Joe," insists the voice." "Joe! Where are you?"

"In heaven", replies Joe. "I have some really good news and a little Bad news."

"Tell me the good news first," says Mike.

"The good news," Joe says," is that there's football in heaven.

Better yet, all of our old friends who died before us are here, too. Better than that,
we're all young again. Better still, it's always spring time and it never rains
or snows.

And best of all, we can play football all we want, and we never get tired."

"That's fantastic," says Mike. "It's beyond my wildest dreams!

So what's the bad news?


"You're in the team for Tuesday."

Don't they play at weekends like normal human beings? unsure.gif

I wonder if God's impartial when he referees the OF derbies, rumour has it that he's slightly biased to one side!
mortonjag 2007-05-29 07:32:18
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ May 28 2007, 10:24 PM) [snapback]280230[/snapback]
Well "JM's powderpuff apprentices" managed to see off Killie who are patently a far better team than the Pars, or had you conveniently forgotten that? Still, you'll be a happy chappie next year when the Pars cuff us four times. mad.gif

Itchy baws-where have you been-I've missed your patter!

I actually think 'powderpuff apprentices' describes them well. I said elsewhere that when they were ALLOWED to play football (as against Killie, St Johnstone, and even Well, they impressed, yet Clyde stood on them, and they fizzled out.

That's the WHOLE point-I wasn't criticising their ability-just their lack of muscle and experience, qualities which the Pars demonstrated in abundance on Saturday.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 07:43:26
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 28 2007, 11:36 PM) [snapback]280243[/snapback]
get it right, TESTICLE....Singular.

A bit OTT beermonkey-skunks are an oddity in the rodent world in that they normally have three.

The accessory testis lies within the cranium and measuring, as it does, 1mm x 1/2 mm, it takes up the full space of the cavity.

This may explain skunks unparalleled proclivity, though it's widely accepted that they are simply an unwelcome overabundance of mindless interbreeding vermin.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 07:54:09 It's just the old West of Scotland 'chip on the shoulder' rearing its ugly head IMO Trick.

Inverclyde is not a well off area, but we're not debating facts any more on the thread.

If you genuinely say, 'I pity you'-how do you ever get by', the response is 'Who do you think you're talking to you rich c*nt, born with that f*ckin' silver spoon in yer mooth-we get by quite nicely, thank YOU'.

Then they slip off for a pint or ten which they can ill afford, mutually bewail the injustice of their poverty, and tear to shreds anybody who appears to have made something of his life.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 08:01:31
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 29 2007, 07:41 AM) [snapback]280287[/snapback]
rumour has it that he's slightly biased to one side!

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

There is a rumour that he was biased in the Great War as well.

And before anyone starts, I received the tale in an email.

And I could not be bothered changing the names of Michael and Joseph.

So the is ZERO inference.

biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

ZERO to YOU NewTon!!!!! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-29 08:02:24
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 29 2007, 07:44 AM) [snapback]280289[/snapback]
Splinter Creek

Killmurnick
mortonjag 2007-05-29 08:06:10
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 29 2007, 07:51 AM) [snapback]280290[/snapback]
It's not Colkitto I am worried about, mate, it's the use of the label "Scot" by the English Broadcasting Corporation web site.

There is something going on.

blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif

He is a Scot, of Italian ancestry, and hails from Bathgate. The name's been well known in motor sport for ages. I guess it would be his father or uncle who used to race regularly at Ingliston. The Beeb got it right for once.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 08:07:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 29 2007, 07:54 AM) [snapback]280292[/snapback]
Brigadoon

Brig O' Weir
mortonjag 2007-05-29 08:08:53
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 29 2007, 07:54 AM) [snapback]280293[/snapback]
Perhaps you presume too little and too much.

You're saying your baws are bigger than CHUCK'S? wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-29 08:10:11
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 29 2007, 08:08 AM) [snapback]280298[/snapback]
Weirs way

Biggar's fashion
mortonjag 2007-05-29 08:16:13
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 29 2007, 08:11 AM) [snapback]280302[/snapback]
I take it Myles Hogarth is under contract ?

MYLES HOGARTH -with a name like THAT, I'm surprised you'd give him house room, Claymore C0CK! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-29 08:17:49
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 29 2007, 08:11 AM) [snapback]280301[/snapback]
Kiddeminster harriers

Sc unthorpe
mortonjag 2007-05-29 08:20:36 Madness, or insanity, characterised by pathologically irrational behaviour.

Watching the Ton at Forfar in mid December springs to mind.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 08:41:14
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 29 2007, 08:22 AM) [snapback]280309[/snapback]
On a Friday afternoon though, it's always crawling with people and the bar-staff are murder!

Bloody Financial District...

and...
mortonjag 2007-05-29 08:42:25
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 29 2007, 08:25 AM) [snapback]280313[/snapback]
Large clothes huh.gif

xxl
mortonjag 2007-05-29 08:43:57
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 29 2007, 08:39 AM) [snapback]280317[/snapback]
Illawong

Greenock MORTON
mortonjag 2007-05-29 08:44:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 29 2007, 08:43 AM) [snapback]280320[/snapback]
Excellent

Wannabecellent
mortonjag 2007-05-29 08:51:24
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 29 2007, 08:20 AM) [snapback]280306[/snapback]
You forgot to mention the illegal substances which a lot of folk enjoy these days & think nothing of it. ohmy.gif sad.gif

I know beermonkey-I've learned over the years that 'decent' folk can always 'get by' in our society. Relatively poor-definitely, but they can still hold their heads high in anybody's company.

The ones who wallow in self induced poverty because their priorities are skewed do most of the bleating.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 08:54:20
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 29 2007, 08:48 AM) [snapback]280326[/snapback]
I know you're hanging on my every word, auld yin, but I was finished there.

Congratulations, and GOODBYE!
mortonjag 2007-05-29 08:55:35
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 29 2007, 08:54 AM) [snapback]280330[/snapback]
Willy wonka

Wooly w*nker
mortonjag 2007-05-29 08:56:37
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 29 2007, 08:55 AM) [snapback]280332[/snapback]
Grimsby town

Norwich s***ty
mortonjag 2007-05-29 08:59:26
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 29 2007, 08:57 AM) [snapback]280335[/snapback]
Masturbating sheep

Spattering rams
mortonjag 2007-05-29 09:02:06
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ May 29 2007, 01:07 AM) [snapback]280262[/snapback]
isnt gonna do any harm anyway - thats for sure.

Disagree strongly Greacen, false leads are one of the most common causes of investigations dragging on, and frequently allow the true culprit/s time to cover their tracks.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 09:03:00
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 29 2007, 09:01 AM) [snapback]280338[/snapback]
Yarawindah

huddersfield
mortonjag 2007-05-29 09:06:31
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 29 2007, 09:00 AM) [snapback]280337[/snapback]
I have no knowledge of Chuck's testicles. Have you?

Not first hand, but I'm sure the natural daily desquamation from Chuck's baws could feed a family of starvin' skunks for a whole season.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 09:07:31
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 29 2007, 09:06 AM) [snapback]280349[/snapback]
Dandenong

glasgow wringers
mortonjag 2007-05-29 09:09:52 The monkey did his wee bit financially, and we both prayed-oh how we prayed.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 09:20:18
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 29 2007, 09:07 AM) [snapback]280350[/snapback]
Foam.

You know, at his mouth. He'll be away to rinse it away.

...before 'my man' drives him in into town in the 'Roller' and a pin striped suit, to partake of foam of a different variety in the 'BLOODY FINANCIAL DISTRICT'.Meanwhile poor wee Mick knocks back his flat Coke as he cheats on his boss and a computer.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 09:24:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 29 2007, 09:21 AM) [snapback]280361[/snapback]
Attunga

ayr united
mortonjag 2007-05-29 09:25:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 29 2007, 09:23 AM) [snapback]280362[/snapback]
Hot rods

drag artists
mortonjag 2007-05-29 09:29:31
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 29 2007, 09:27 AM) [snapback]280365[/snapback]
Peel Hotel Collingwood

Pair in vocation deal
mortonjag 2007-05-29 09:34:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 29 2007, 09:31 AM) [snapback]280368[/snapback]
Dark Corner

nuneaten
mortonjag 2007-05-29 09:34:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 29 2007, 09:33 AM) [snapback]280370[/snapback]
Papal vacation

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

holy sh*t
mortonjag 2007-05-29 09:41:06
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 29 2007, 09:33 AM) [snapback]280369[/snapback]
I won't have that slander! I'm not drinking coke, I'm drinking Relentless.

...aye, well gie yer coak a wee rest an' use yer hauns for something more profitable-did yer maw get the stains oot yer boxers BTW?
mortonjag 2007-05-29 09:42:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 29 2007, 09:38 AM) [snapback]280376[/snapback]
holySheet! was started in 1990

perforated pillow
mortonjag 2007-05-29 09:45:04
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 29 2007, 09:43 AM) [snapback]280379[/snapback]
Dirty auld c*nt - been raking through my drawers again?

Knew I was missing a pair.

masterly litosis methinks!
mortonjag 2007-05-29 09:46:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 29 2007, 09:35 AM) [snapback]280374[/snapback]
Nerrin Nerrin

nantwich town
mortonjag 2007-05-29 09:55:55 40 today-who'd believe it.

25th anniversary of ground breaking joint prayer in Canterbury-the Archbishop and John Paul 11, were hoping for better things.

54 years ago today-Everest first conquered by Tensing and Hilary.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 10:02:26
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 29 2007, 09:54 AM) [snapback]280390[/snapback]
It's funny - I can't even post an opinion about a pub without being hounded by the forum's own Colin and Justin here, and yet I'm the one accused of starting [b]everything.[/b]

Who are you calling a dog-I'm deeply offended-it's bad enough having to suffer accusations of a nature which we may not talk of here, but a DOG

I ain't nothin' but a 'hun' dog-that's it-NACH0-quick. wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-29 10:05:37
QUOTE(The Naitch @ May 29 2007, 10:02 AM) [snapback]280394[/snapback]
Eintracht Frankfurt

Taunton town
mortonjag 2007-05-29 10:14:49
QUOTE(ThornTON @ May 29 2007, 10:09 AM) [snapback]280402[/snapback]
Posters can't raise the dead.

...and jumping to conclusions always gets in the way of open mindedness, but I certainly agree in principle.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 10:18:10
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 29 2007, 10:11 AM) [snapback]280405[/snapback]
Think back to your school days - writing on bits of slate with chalk - did teacher never teach you not to take everything literally?

Nice to see you bounce back off the ropes so quickly Micky me lad! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-29 10:20:31
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ May 29 2007, 10:14 AM) [snapback]280409[/snapback]
Agree completely with 44 Tonne Ton and the sentiments of the other posters. The fine line that Nach0 walked between cencorship nad keeping this den of inquity in check was done with finese. We can only hope that whoever takes over this responsibility takes heed of some of the quite difficult judgement calls that were made and I believe supported by the majority of us.

We also have to bear in mind that at the time without Nach0 working with Div we may well have lost this priceless online resource.

Look forward to continuing to discuss both football and general nonsense with you.

biggrin.gif ScotinBelgie

Somebody's been on the 'phone to Crawford Rae!
mortonjag 2007-05-29 10:22:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 29 2007, 10:13 AM) [snapback]280407[/snapback]
Durren Durren

northwich victoria
mortonjag 2007-05-29 10:24:56
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 29 2007, 10:22 AM) [snapback]280416[/snapback]
pillow talk

muffled speech
mortonjag 2007-05-29 10:25:58
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 29 2007, 10:21 AM) [snapback]280414[/snapback]
Haha, look at this - they're practically replying in unison!

Share a wee bedside computer, lads?

after you- NewTon
mortonjag 2007-05-29 10:30:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 29 2007, 10:28 AM) [snapback]280424[/snapback]
Yarramalong

gre£na mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-29 10:31:20
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 29 2007, 10:26 AM) [snapback]280422[/snapback]
speech therapy

gobstoppers
mortonjag 2007-05-29 10:33:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 29 2007, 10:31 AM) [snapback]280426[/snapback]
Share a wee bedside computer, lads?

aye, 10,826 miles apart.

one day Sick will use his brain.

blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif

Transplantation has actually been succesful in some primitive species already I'm told. There's a glimmer of hope-just a glimmer mind.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 10:35:24
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 29 2007, 10:32 AM) [snapback]280429[/snapback]
Sweeties

millions
mortonjag 2007-05-29 10:45:21
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 29 2007, 10:35 AM) [snapback]280432[/snapback]
40 today - And ? we all get older.

25th anniversary of some bible thumping event ? who gives a toss ???

Everest first conquered ? what was the point ?

beermonkey in cynical mood!

Aye we all get older and more's the pity.

Some 'bible thumping event'--CAREFUL!! rolleyes.gif

What's the point?

8850m above sea level
'cos it's there

what's the point in 22 men running about like eejits for 90 mins trying to force a wee round leather thing into a poke?
mortonjag 2007-05-29 10:59:15
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 29 2007, 10:45 AM) [snapback]280444[/snapback]
I can already hear the conversation when they meet up at Glasgow airport:

MJ: Gidday Newton, how was the flight?
NT: Gidday. Crikey! A bit rough but you know me, me arse can take anything!
MJ: Glad to be back?
NT: Ripper! Shrimp on the Barbie! Tell you what though, mate, it's good to get away from those bloody aboriginals!
MJ: Savages. Utter savages. I trust you packed lube?
NT: Ripper! Cricket! Rugger! Of course mate! This is gonna be a bottler!
MJ: You better believe it.

laugh.gif

I guess it beats Mick to Pat in the same situation

Mick-'when did you touch down Pat'?

Pat-' when the big hand was at three and the wee one at six, to be sure'.

Mick-'Was it a rough passage'

Pat-'No to be sure, I've been up in far worse'

Mick-'Any turbulence'?

Pat-'only liquorice allsorts.'

Mick-'Fancy goin' to 'House for an Arts lover' for lunch

Pat-'Eh-have they legalised it at last?'
mortonjag 2007-05-29 11:01:30
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 29 2007, 10:48 AM) [snapback]280448[/snapback]
And to think some poor bloke actually pays Sick a wage.

It's nearly 11 am and what work has he done this morning ?

Or does he "work" for Inverclyde Coucil ?

sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

No, that would be incest nepotism-word has it he 'works' within a stone's throw of Glasgow's bent bridge.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 11:04:16
QUOTE(nach0king @ May 29 2007, 11:03 AM) [snapback]280457[/snapback]
Close enough biggrin.gif

Gefle

east stirlingshire
mortonjag 2007-05-29 11:05:03
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 29 2007, 10:55 AM) [snapback]280452[/snapback]
Gold diggers

silver spades
mortonjag 2007-05-29 11:06:35
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 29 2007, 11:05 AM) [snapback]280460[/snapback]
Sitting with a map of the city centre and a compass trying to pinpoint where I am?

Christ, now I am scared.

less of the blasphemy-off you pop to the confessional, lest I report you to God
mortonjag 2007-05-29 11:08:11
QUOTE(nach0king @ May 29 2007, 11:06 AM) [snapback]280462[/snapback]
Exeter City

York city
mortonjag 2007-05-29 11:09:42
QUOTE(nach0king @ May 29 2007, 11:04 AM) [snapback]280459[/snapback]
One thing that puzzles me is that the prize money is in £. Surely if it's being erected in Portugal it should be in Euros, since there are more likely to be locals around than Brits?

hmm-maybe they know more than they're saying.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 11:11:41
QUOTE(Simpleton McYank @ May 29 2007, 10:49 AM) [snapback]280449[/snapback]
Trick, I
Really thought,
I did that you were straight
Cos you talk
Kinda sense. Now I see you got a

Woman's car
And you
Need to profess your love for some
Kinda racing driver
Son of a bitch!

Do you think that
Obvious queer
Gay stuff is acceptable on this
Site?

Cos I dont. You
Oughta be ashamed of that
Crap.
Keep your gay talk to your
Self.

Are you calling Trick a pouffe?
mortonjag 2007-05-29 11:12:45
QUOTE(Rossco @ May 29 2007, 11:11 AM) [snapback]280466[/snapback]
No matter how many times I have seen the picture I would probably still walk by the wee lassie in the street.

safest thing to do those days.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 11:15:05
QUOTE(shedhead @ May 29 2007, 11:12 AM) [snapback]280468[/snapback]
[attachment=2963:Grandpa_...0Costume.jpg]

My dodgy red thing wouldn't dream of coming within half a mile of that sartorial disaster.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 11:17:01
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ May 29 2007, 10:45 AM) [snapback]280446[/snapback]
Not at all MJ. As a fully signed up member I'm allowed to call a spade a spade when it comes to this forum. biggrin.gif

wink.gif ScotinBelgie

You are NOT allowed to call the next stop after damnation a mere 'den of iniquity'.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 11:27:01
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ May 29 2007, 10:39 AM) [snapback]280436[/snapback]
It has been reported that the Pars are cutting their squad from 30 to 22 players. So potentially a squad with depth (whether or not it is good enough we will see).

It's going to be the same as last time JBD-frankly it matters very little what others do, if WE don't get it right.

We're saddled with JM for another season-he surely must have taken stock and advice from elsewhere. If Dougie's willing and able to shell out enough, we can be in the SPL in one season, though I'd personally have Kenny here than at Pars.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 11:35:23
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 29 2007, 11:17 AM) [snapback]280474[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif

mad.gif

Small things amuse small minds-well Micky me bhoy, while your changing your pants after your sixth J Arthur of the morning, I'm off for half an hour to top up the mobility scooter with diesel, buy some flowers for Hadrian A Hamsters grave, and collect Father Murphy's weekly contribution to Help the Aged. wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-29 12:38:15
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 29 2007, 11:44 AM) [snapback]280479[/snapback]
Mention my name, he'll give you a bit extra.

You've been a beneficiary too Mick-just shows you can't trust the clergy-he SWORE I was the only one! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-29 12:44:46
QUOTE(Dougie @ May 29 2007, 11:49 AM) [snapback]280482[/snapback]
I do not like Jim as a manager, i think he is tactically inept. He did play Stevenson out of position for too long and it took him too long to change to three at the back (if you have no natural full backs why play a system that requires two of them for you system to be affective?).

However there are two things that I do agree with him on. McGowan is a striker. Yes he was inconsistant and yes he missed chances but are we all forgetting the kids age? He is greedy, but I for one think that a centre forward should be! Too often last season we blew golden opportunities in and around the box by trying to pass the ball into the net. Some times last season McGowan was made to look daft by, p*** service when our most creative player was stuck out on a wing and the fact from about the third or fourth game of the season he had two bears marshalling him no matter who we played against. (Harding and Greacen playing THAT STUPID DIAGANOL BALL TO THE KID EVERY TIME THEY GOT IT DIDNAE DAE HIM ANY GOOD!)

Also as much as I see Peter as the most natural finnisher at the club he will score more goals from deeper as he times his runs into the box better and is always facing the goal coming from deeper rather than having his back to it. A bit like Steve G at Liverpool who will score plenty form the midfield but when Benitez pushes him up top becomes inneffective as a goalscorer.

Goal scorer yes, and your excuses are valid in that respect. Striker-well it's back to what each person thinks a striker is. I saw Joe Harper when he was three years younger, and the word 'striker' stuck out a mile. Time will tell.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 12:52:05
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 29 2007, 12:46 PM) [snapback]280503[/snapback]
Gie it a rest, tinpot laugh.gif

'Obvious attempt at stirring the papes' Mick-your deliberate presentation of that as a quote from me is a more than obvious attempt to claw back some credibility.

You are the evil little non Ton supporting catalyst who's already caused far more trouble than you're worth.

Keep it light hearted or f*ck off.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 15:43:58
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 29 2007, 12:56 PM) [snapback]280506[/snapback]
Need I remind you that I only posted an innocuous comment on this thread - and it was you and your husband who leapt down my throat?

I'd hardly call that being the Catalyst around here.

You're the one who brought up Religion, despite the fact that things sour everytime someone does - I was merely pointing out your pape-stirring ways and telling you to give it a rest before things got out of hand again.

The thread was entirely light hearted until YOU introduced the term PAPE STIRRING, making it look like a quote from one of my posts.

Michael Clocherty, son of local Councillor Jim Clocherty, self confessed lapsed Catholic, Celtic supporter, and 'winder up' of a non existent 'anti-Catholic hegemony', you are now scraping the bottom of the barrel. You've had your day in the sun.

Crawl back under your green and white striped stone before somebody less patient than me does spill the beans to the press.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 15:57:36
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 29 2007, 03:46 PM) [snapback]280584[/snapback]
Can you two not just put each other on ignore? Its worse than school weans.

princess-I've never put anyone 'on ignore', and it'll take more than an eighteen year old whose raison d'etre is gratuitous trouble making to do so.

Many posters have commented on his motivation, AND the potential effect on his Dad, and so long as he tries to defend his right to incite ill feeling with deliberately misleading comments I'm afraid I won't be letting go.

It's already been pointed out, NOT by me, that he's doing a disservice to his father, AND to all decent Catholic posters.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 16:06:38
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 29 2007, 12:13 PM) [snapback]280488[/snapback]
You don't spend 10 years at a club if your a bad player, especially a goalkeeper. I would would be more than happy at Arthur coming to Cappielow.

Agreed
mortonjag 2007-05-29 16:10:39 Cowboy's record was fine until he took the DDFR poisoned chalice. I imagine he'll bounce back, and good luck to him.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 16:34:14
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 29 2007, 04:10 PM) [snapback]280617[/snapback]
Mate - it was f***ing YOU who brought Religion into this. Now stop your pishy crusade, it's wearing thin, anyone reading this thread can see that you're the one who is at it.

Fishing for attention by making MORE jibes at Catholics. What were you shouting about? Don't trust Father Murphy? Stereotypical sectarian bile. You know fine well you were out on the wind up.

Another thing, I've the right to privacy - so stop bringing up my Dad and these pathetic threats to go to the telegraph. Grow up, you're a pathetic old man.

If you can't take being called a biggot without having a cry fest - stop trying to wind up Catholics.

That is exactly where you've made a fundamental mistake-the place for privacy is NOT on an internet forum Mick.

Instead of yet another knee jerk post responding to perceived bigotry (which you'd do well to spell properly), why don't you think hard about why you are on a MORTON web site.

Until you crawled in, there was political, religious, and sexual innuendo every single day, and it was all treated in the light hearted manner in which it was posted.

You clearly stated earlier that you were making no attempt to defend Catholics or Catholicism-merely at the 'wind up', so don't try to pretend now that you are 'defender of the faith' in a pathetic attempt to salvage your slipping credibility.

My crusade-if indeed I have one- is to rid our forum of the insidious effects of an unwelcome agent provocateur.

Your crass stupidity in continuing to jeopardise your father's position and credibility is there for all to see. I would not stoop to clyping to Daddy, or 'phoning the 'Tele', Mick, but remember, I've got the balls to stand up to you. Offended people with less courage may behave otherwise.





mortonjag 2007-05-29 17:33:30
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 29 2007, 04:38 PM) [snapback]280640[/snapback]
You really think that there are people on here afraid to "stand up to someone" on an internet messageboard?

It depends exactly what you mean BH-I worded it badly. What I meant was that there may be people who strongly object to his motives, but not have the balls to challenge him because they feel they can't match him in a verbal tussle.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 17:43:21
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ May 29 2007, 04:41 PM) [snapback]280643[/snapback]
I agree. It is very unfortunate that it is getting to this level. With most posters it is just an excuse for a good wind-up. No need to get too personal. Dish it out and then take it in the spirit intended.

Personally, I blame the Kafflicks!

Only joking...or am I?

HT-you normally come over as a pretty reasonable guy. As a direct result of this one poster's self indulgent behaviour, posts and threads have been deleted, I've had a huge misunderstanding(now completely resolved) with the administrator, and people with genuine religious sensitivities have behaved in an unprecedentedly aggressive fashion.

Just thank your lucky stars that he's already selected his prime target, or your 'blame the Kafflicks' comment would be spun totally out of context.

I have no idea who it was revealed his identity-certainly I had no idea of it, but if he so jealously guards his privacy and has any respect for his father, instead of brashly admitting it, he should have simply and quietly disappeared.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 17:52:39
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 29 2007, 04:47 PM) [snapback]280646[/snapback]
Ssh, let him have his moment. He's got to make this more important than it is, the only other thing he has to do is feed the pidgeons.

I applaud your courage, Mortonjag. Thank you for exposing me for the evil mastermind that I am.

I've never for one moment thought of you as anything other than an extremely immature child with a hugely inflated impression of your own intelligence and value to society.

I'm more than happy to banter with you Mick-at times you can be extremely amusing, but why don't you stop hunting 'pape bashing' ghosts.

mortonjag 2007-05-29 17:57:34
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 29 2007, 04:19 PM) [snapback]280626[/snapback]
And Mortonjag is dedicating his time to helping them and trying to smear my Dad's name.

Did you see him posting who's son I was in large green letters? A shockingly b*****dly move.

I was merely drawing your attention to the probability that sooner or later your behaviour would have done that Mick.

I don't live in Inverclyde, I didn't even know who your Dad was until you appeared on the forum, and I am totally apolitical.

One of the other posters (whom I respect) has described your Dad as a decent guy who works hard for his constituents, and I accept that at face value.

Are you DETERMINED to f*ck things up for him?
mortonjag 2007-05-29 18:05:20
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 29 2007, 04:27 PM) [snapback]280631[/snapback]
Cleveland Indians

Coatbridge cowboys
mortonjag 2007-05-29 18:24:09
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ May 29 2007, 05:56 PM) [snapback]280674[/snapback]
Auchinleck Talbot

tarff rovers
mortonjag 2007-05-29 18:30:27
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 29 2007, 01:28 PM) [snapback]280525[/snapback]
F1 as a spectator sport is extremely poor but folk are still fanatical about it as it represents the pinnacle of racecar technology. The fact that 99 races out of 100 are a procession decided by pit strategy is irrelevant to these guys and fair play to them - they love it. My brother is one of these guys and no matter how much we argue about it, he'll not change his mind.

I've found that lower level motorsport such as touring cars or rallying are far more entertaining and don't get me started on bike racing. It's the best. smile.gif

I guess you're right about the bikes BH-it's still seat of the pants stuff, and I can enjoy it much better on the telly than Grand Prix.

As I said in the other thread, you can't beat the real thing-I've been at two or three bike events at Knockhill-and especially on a good day it's great fun.

In fairness to the likes of Alonso, Hamilton et al, they are very much underrated-every wee wannabe with a souped up Citroen Saxo thinks it's easy. Half of those guys would s*** their pants at the G force of a 90cc kart!
mortonjag 2007-05-29 18:44:03
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 29 2007, 06:27 PM) [snapback]280688[/snapback]
This is quite rich coming from someone who was broadcasting the fact that I was a Councillor's son on a font that nearly spanned half a page...

I'm not f*cking up things for my Dad by having a bit of banter on an internet forum; that's totally ridiculous.

From this post on, I refuse to discuss anything to do with my Dad. [b]It's come to that, d*ckhead[/b].


GOOD


Nobody, so far as I know, Mick, ever asked you to 'discuss matters to do with your Dad', and every single time you bring him back up there's more chance of some lazy hack homing in.


Of course I made that a banner headline- I hoped you'd see sense, and the fact that you carried on in total disregard for so long, poses questions about how much you really respect your father. Only when it's been spelled out for you have you finally balanced your old man's credibility against a few cheap laughs from your easily impressed and less intelligent peers.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 18:48:09
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 29 2007, 06:45 PM) [snapback]280694[/snapback]
John McCormack

Count
mortonjag 2007-05-29 18:49:02
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 29 2007, 06:44 PM) [snapback]280693[/snapback]
Manchester United

Dungbarton
mortonjag 2007-05-29 18:53:41
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 29 2007, 05:10 PM) [snapback]280656[/snapback]
With Wimbledon coming up we'll see what nationality Murray is , probably depend on how far Tim Henman goes .

It seems to vary a lot with the sport.
In snooker, for example, the best players are normally given their nationality.

Hendry, and Higgins have been pretty universally described as Scots, Doherty as Irish, and so on, but then Snooker is not a 'Snob value' sport.

Murray will undoubtedly become extremely 'British' if he fulfils his potential, but there again, he IS!
mortonjag 2007-05-29 18:55:38
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ May 29 2007, 06:53 PM) [snapback]280701[/snapback]
vampire bat

sticky blood
mortonjag 2007-05-29 19:13:02
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ May 29 2007, 07:03 PM) [snapback]280710[/snapback]
They all come from the British Isles so therefore they are all British. Or am I deliberately missing something?

tongue.gif ScotinBelgie

Ken Doherty perhaps? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-29 19:22:43
QUOTE(McCauley87 @ May 29 2007, 07:15 PM) [snapback]280717[/snapback]
I have to agree with you, you can't beat the real thing. I was at the Macau Grand Prix in November there where there were the World Touring Cars, one of the bike events (the class that Michael Rutter races in) and the Formula 3 along with other smaller scale local events and it was phenomenal.

Out of all the races the Formula 3 was probably most awe inspiring. The noise alone, never mind the speed, generated by the machines was unbeleivable, if you combined the noise from the bikes and touring cars it wouldn't have come close to that of the Formula 3 cars. The Formula 3 cars seem to be in a different league to that of the World Touring Cars, which is the pinnacle of touring cars, in terms of both speed and the skill needed to drive these cars. And Formula 1 is a step up from that again, so you're also right in terms of the recognition of the talents that F1 drivers have.

Watching this seasons grand prixs has not been the same after this experience but I still enjoy it and appreciate, even more cos of the experience, the skill that the drivers have.

Every time I've gone home after attending a race meeting-no matter how grand or humble-I'm exhausted-all the hubbub, smells, craning of your neck, and screwing up your eyes to see if the order's changed as they approach the next bend etc. One of the most bizarre events was a round of the supercarts at Knockhill. Unbelievable-those guys are doing well over 150m.p.h. in glorified 'bogeys' with their arses barely 1" above ground level. FUN!
mortonjag 2007-05-29 19:24:43
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 29 2007, 07:19 PM) [snapback]280720[/snapback]
When has monty won anything big?
Murray's doubtful, wrist problems I think.

dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-29 19:29:40
QUOTE(Robert the Bruce @ May 29 2007, 07:17 PM) [snapback]280718[/snapback]
Which one is more fair?

I'd tell you if I could see them side by side in operation. In theory I imagine most folk would go for some form of taxation based on disposable income, but the implementation of that type of collection might be even more difficult than 'poll tax' was.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 19:34:17
QUOTE(McCauley87 @ May 29 2007, 07:26 PM) [snapback]280730[/snapback]
Just to compare the differences of the 3 events at the Macau Grand Prix, the track is 6.2km, the touring car lap record is 2:29.253, the bike lap record is 2:28.233 and the formula 3 lap record is 2:12.527. So the Formula 3 is a lot faster than the pinnacle of touring cars and then Formula 1 is even faster than Formula 3 so that shows just how skilled you need to be to race in Formula 1 compared to touring cars.

...which is a kinda roundbout way of saying that for his age, young Hamilton's got to be one of the best ever.
mortonjag 2007-05-29 19:36:33
QUOTE(Street Walker @ May 29 2007, 07:20 PM) [snapback]280723[/snapback]
East Fife

Eaglesham amateurs
mortonjag 2007-05-30 05:01:06
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 29 2007, 11:33 AM) [snapback]280477[/snapback]
We'll soon get some whipper snappers on here, I bream of the day! Let's hope they don't make a halibut, or they'll soon need some kelp

Sorry for the delay-I've been trawling for help to swell the funds of the seashore name punsters (SNP)

We've had a flood of donations from relative minnows, but I wish to thank a Mr D Ray who has pledged a couple of millions, a Ms N Sturgeon who is willing to auction herring, and last but not least, the benevolence of an anonymous donor, (a Mr A Salmond).

Footnote-anybody may join-only one rule-no monkfish tails. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-30 05:02:52
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 29 2007, 08:24 PM) [snapback]280767[/snapback]
Sylvester Stallone

lone ranger
mortonjag 2007-05-30 05:07:25
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ May 29 2007, 08:25 PM) [snapback]280769[/snapback]
Also comes from the British Isles! MJ surely you knew that?

rolleyes.gif ScotinBelgie

Dublin in the British Isles! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-30 05:14:40
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 29 2007, 11:43 PM) [snapback]280891[/snapback]
Or Senna wink.gif

or 23 yet!
mortonjag 2007-05-30 05:18:56
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 29 2007, 09:41 PM) [snapback]280823[/snapback]
Bog-standard four? Not sure I understand, Manky.
So, what would you have me drive?

Four cylinders in line Trick-not a 'V', 'boxer', or rotary.

The majority of family saloons on British roads are still 'bog standard fours'.
mortonjag 2007-05-30 05:26:43
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 29 2007, 10:12 PM) [snapback]280843[/snapback]
Yes if you good enough then your old enough . The problem that we have is the majority of our squad haven't played at this level so none of us know for sure who exactly is good enough . This is why everyone is demanding players who have experience .
It would be no good for Lennon's advancement or our survival if we found that our squad was struggling with the step up .
We need to bring in 2 strikers , if one has experience at 1st division level then yes I would be in favour of getting Lennon or some other promising youngster to add to the squad .
We cannot rely on the 1 signing upfront what happens if we have an injury , suspension or someone goes off the boil .

That's always been correct chrissiboi, but it's extremely rare to find someone under the mid twenties who is streetwise, 'never say die' and can motivate the others.

We have plenty of 'talented' players in the squad, but it's no good being a superb musician if you collapse with 'stage fright' three quarters of the time.
mortonjag 2007-05-30 05:29:59
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ May 29 2007, 06:16 PM) [snapback]280684[/snapback]
Totally agree with manky's initial post.

Cowboy was badly let down by certain players and Dougie didn't exactly help matters. Dougie would probably still have John Maisano here now if he could, in fact I think I recall a programme note where he more or less said that and that McInally had over-ruled him on the matter.

I wish Cowboy the best of luck, he got us out the 3rd by playing some smashing football and he was always willing to spend time with us at supporters' functions Some folk have pretty short memories.

Short AND nasty!
mortonjag 2007-05-30 05:35:44
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 29 2007, 10:53 PM) [snapback]280861[/snapback]
When McGraw was the manager , as soon a boy got into the first team McGraw would be commenting at every oppurtunity that he wouldn't be surprised if a bigger club didn't come in for him soon .
We have had spells .
At this moment I don't think the club liases with any of the local boys clubs . Although from watching my nephews the scout for Aberdeen was usually sniffing about .

The commander in chief has probably approached the matter after consulting an actuary! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-30 05:51:35
QUOTE(JonaTon @ May 30 2007, 01:36 AM) [snapback]280916[/snapback]
After posting the message above I decided to delete it after thinking better of the pages of argument that would ensue.

Anyway, I have read your posts for a few years now and to me, you come across as the american who thinks everything is bigger and better in America. You often post thinly veiled threats of violence because you are in the US Army (or whatever) ending quotes with Capisce and stuff like that. They are jokes but its tiresome and annoying.

It's not because you are American, that is ridiculous. It's because of what you post.

I found your posts about wages of £400 per week as sucking ass and that you wouldn't be able to live on them as extremely offensive and distasteful especially when I'd assume the vast majority of people on this messageboard would love to make £400 per week. The fact you had to bring up the point that you used to make that much 15 years ago sums you up.

In short I don't like you judging by your posts on here and I suspect if you are true to how you post on here I wouldn't like you in real life. I suspect you feel the same about me and that's fine by me.

Despite the fact that official average earnings in Scotland last year were over £26,000.

You may be correct JonaTon, in that many of our posters are fairly young, but in reality, anybody earning only £400 per week, even if it's after deductions, is still relatively poor, and will have difficulty, for example, in buying a house.
mortonjag 2007-05-30 05:55:01
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 30 2007, 05:04 AM) [snapback]280929[/snapback]
tonto

kemo sabe!
mortonjag 2007-05-30 05:55:47
QUOTE(alexp @ May 30 2007, 02:51 AM) [snapback]280922[/snapback]
nantes

Stirling Albion
mortonjag 2007-05-30 06:04:32
QUOTE(hoody @ May 30 2007, 01:21 AM) [snapback]280914[/snapback]
Happy Birthday old man tongue.gif
next drinks on me wink.gif

Many happy returns-you share a birthday with Peter the Great, and the great Faberge.

It's 21 years today since Ian Botham was banned from international cricket for two months for possession of drugs-nothing changes!
mortonjag 2007-05-30 06:18:54 I've just been reading the latest update-not from some sensational tabloid, but 'The Herald', and can't believe how the press have got their teeth into this one.

Apparently as Gerry and Kate prepared to fly out by private jet to tell His Holiness what he should be doing to help, they claimed,'We're not trying to rock the boat'.

Madeleine's siblings were deemed too young and 'left in the care of relatives'-can't help thinking Brinks Mat would have been more in tune with everything else.

Reports that Mr McCann failed in an attempt to get a High Court injunction to postpone the showing of Big Brother are unconfirmed. The other media circus commences tonight.
mortonjag 2007-05-30 06:35:49 AG Barr have employed pretty successful advertising agents in the past, and presumably they're in tune with what will sell the stuff.

One of the most naff adverts of all time IMO was the Coke 'I'd like to teach the world to sing' one-just a whole lot of folk bouncing along to music, but it was an unprecedented success.

Personally I much preferred the naughty Irn Bru ads-especially 'even though I used to be a man'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-30 06:45:33 I'm just a decrepit old fart who believes in 'early to bed, and early to rise', but at just after 5 a.m. MidTONs made one single post and then disappeared. Does he do night shift-no-he'd post far more. Was he just up for a single fish-hardly the time to start up the old computer. I've been thinking he was maybe creeping back in with the striped jersey, black goggles and swag bag, and will now be sound asleep. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-30 07:15:05
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 30 2007, 06:50 AM) [snapback]280943[/snapback]
laugh.gif

I'm a insomniac, I've been up all night and decided to do some work for the programme for next season.

Insomnia can be a curse midTONs-I sleep brilliantly now, though I rarely need more than six hours, but for seven years I worked four consecutive thirteen hour overnight shifts each week. Going on holiday was just hopeless-I always wanted to sleep during the day.

When I gave up the overnight stuff, and went back to 'normal' hours, it took me many, many months before I got my sleep pattern back.
mortonjag 2007-05-30 07:46:15
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 30 2007, 07:21 AM) [snapback]280945[/snapback]
I have always had problems with sleeping for as long back as I can remember, if I was to get 6 hours continuous sleep I would be happy.


My older son's been an insomniac since he was a child-nobody can explain it-just one of those things perhaps.
mortonjag 2007-05-30 08:46:39
QUOTE(Up the Ton @ May 30 2007, 08:38 AM) [snapback]280952[/snapback]
I was right the first time, you are a f*d.

You were well warned-soon you'll be'wabbit' stew.
mortonjag 2007-05-30 08:53:30
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 30 2007, 08:42 AM) [snapback]280953[/snapback]
HS dodged paying the Architects as well.

Does anyone remember the first time we had the misfortune to set eyes on that apology for keech?

He insisted that he and McGraw would go across to the cowshed to greet the fans. McGraw was pretty crippled even then, and as I watched them go across-Allan with his stick-I got a really good squint at the wee c*nt. I said to my brother-who's often recalled it-'He's up to no good'. Everything about him, the face, the body language, everything just oozed sleaze from day one.

And they say the majority is against capital punishment! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-30 09:32:19
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 30 2007, 09:05 AM) [snapback]280957[/snapback]
You don't know a windup when you see one? You have to know I wasn't serious.
Don't put any more wood onto the fire, MJ.

Trick, you still haven't quite got the hang of this thing. The idea is to be SO insulting that the skunk can't beat you.

They would slag you off for being almighty God, let alone an American-and they don't understand what it's like to live in a normal cultured world.

Give a skunk a tasty morsel of maggot covered sh*t, and it'll be your friend for life.

Offer it some nice fillet steak-it will turn up its nose.

Skunks have their own form of inverted snobbery, and despise all who don't indulge in their depraved customs. Alcoholism, drug addiction, incest, rape, and murder are seen by them as mere bagatelles.
Paedophilia and buggery are the more common sports they enjoy, though the annual ritual cannibal festival has gained some notoriety.

A large rubber effigy of Mark Yardley is erected. Its penis fires bullets when actuated remotely. 15 vestal virgin skunks, none of which has been shagged more than 39 times are made to dance naked around it, and at midnight, shots fly from Yardley's grotesque rubber pr*ck. The first unfortunate victim is promptly spit roasted, before being gobbled down by the ravenous creatures. The rest are put alive through a giant mincer.

I could tell you worse, but will save that for another day.
mortonjag 2007-05-30 09:41:50
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 30 2007, 09:33 AM) [snapback]280970[/snapback]
He's king of the sleaze balls alright. Last month I spotted him in Kilmalcolm, driving an Aston Martin he was, complete with personalised number plate. He's probably still got the Roller and the DB6 is just a wee runabout.

I'll never know how c*nts like that can sleep at night. Do they think they're doing no wrong I wonder, or are they just evil incarnate?
mortonjag 2007-05-30 09:45:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 30 2007, 09:30 AM) [snapback]280966[/snapback]
faithful friend

jagger
mortonjag 2007-05-30 10:11:24
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 30 2007, 09:50 AM) [snapback]280980[/snapback]
The Black Rider

Hobson's choice
mortonjag 2007-05-30 10:13:00
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 30 2007, 09:44 AM) [snapback]280977[/snapback]
Yerrinbool

liverpool
mortonjag 2007-05-30 10:20:38
QUOTE(steveoath @ May 30 2007, 09:11 AM) [snapback]280960[/snapback]
Rearry?

Couldn't resist.

veritabrry
mortonjag 2007-05-30 10:22:26
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 30 2007, 10:08 AM) [snapback]280984[/snapback]
No, not evil incarnate, just a liar and a thief who got away with it because the law is a joke. There's a line in the Woody Guthrie song 'Pretty Boy Floyd' that fits : 'some will rob with a sixgun, and some with a fountain pen'.

No jokes please-what's his line of business?
mortonjag 2007-05-30 10:26:07
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ May 30 2007, 10:20 AM) [snapback]280995[/snapback]
Abso-fecking-lutely! Although most Irish (and Colkitto) complain about this from a political perspective - however from a purely goegraphically viewpoint.

The British Isles is an archipelago consisting of the islands of Great Britain (Albion), Ireland and many smaller surrounding islands off the northwest coast of continental Europe. There are more than 6,000 islands, amounting to a total land area of 121,674 square miles (315,134 km²). The islands extend from Les Minquiers Reef, Jersey in the south (or Pednathise Head, Isles of Scilly if the Channel Islands are excluded), to Out Stack, Shetland in the north; and from Tearaght Island, Ireland in the west, to Lowestoft Ness, England in the east.

cool.gif ScotinBelgie

So to paraphrase claymore C0CK

Is Doherty Irish, Irish and British, or British and Irish.

I'll guess the answer is he's a native of the British Isles and Irish, which sounds a bit Irish odd.
mortonjag 2007-05-30 10:29:06
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ May 30 2007, 10:25 AM) [snapback]280998[/snapback]
He was in the insurance business based in Largs prior to taking over the Ton, I understand that there were a number of complaints regarding his practices, allegedly.

Interesting-Mr Mileson made most of his money from insurance, after he stopped the 'hard man' money lending game which got him off the ground, I'm led to believe.
mortonjag 2007-05-30 10:33:51
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 30 2007, 10:29 AM) [snapback]281001[/snapback]
Dirty business (sorry, couldn't resist it).
I'm not really sure, I think he dabbles in a number of things. Property development, asset stripping (to be expected of course), holiday homes and leisure ( I think he still owns Haddockston House in Kilmalcolm) and a Ben and Jerry ice cream franchise.

Haddockston house-I know that place well-and from what you've told me I recognise the personality type well too. They seem to have a kind of ethical inversion, whereby everything has to be done in a shady and crooked way, even after they're set up and could do it perfectly legitimately. SCUM.
mortonjag 2007-05-30 10:37:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 30 2007, 10:34 AM) [snapback]281007[/snapback]
He probably sells those too. 'Get your disabled badges here, 2 for a Tenner' laugh.gif

The monkey has noted the registration. That's not actually a disabled badge-it's a prophesy.
mortonjag 2007-05-30 10:44:39
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ May 30 2007, 10:40 AM) [snapback]281011[/snapback]
Or perhaps none of the above. One of the key Gaelic tribes were the Belgae (the bravest of the all - according to Ceaser). And of course across Scotland you can find a heavy Flemish influence. So perhaps I'm not British but have merely returned home!

You've just got to love history and geography messign about with national identity!

laugh.gif ScotinBelgie

We truly are a batarde nation-why do folk like claymore C0CK get so upset. Would it REALLY turn his world upside down if he discovered his great Grandfather had been English?

The 'batarde's because I can't use the English version despite it being absolutely correct in the context! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-30 11:47:32
QUOTE(tontastic @ May 30 2007, 11:22 AM) [snapback]281026[/snapback]
To ensure that this excellent thread remains intact could I ask any posters to refrain from posting anything that might be construed as a threat of or incitement to violence towards ex-majority shareholders. No problem with statements of fact, but lets act with a little more dignity than we witnessed.

the monkey is a furry toy-his picture is evident-oh and what about non-ex majority shareholders? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-30 11:51:42
QUOTE(new_bhoy @ May 30 2007, 11:48 AM) [snapback]281038[/snapback]
What you talking about i'm a celtic fan who pays money to go and watch my home team now and again.If you don't like it tough

Aye right new bhoy-you were quick to introduce yourself, but no personal information-very poor show Mick-can't you just let this go once and for all?
mortonjag 2007-05-30 11:54:47
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 30 2007, 11:40 AM) [snapback]281034[/snapback]
Not true Deego, McCluskey had more than enough ability to be a great player for us. Unfortunately, his attitude stank and he appeared to be a bit of a p***k.

I never rated him BH-a huge disappointment-are you saying he just didn't try?
mortonjag 2007-05-30 12:06:57 Och I'm sure Bawheid'll take it in his stride-backhanded compliment, if you ask me.
mortonjag 2007-05-30 12:09:49
QUOTE(The Naitch @ May 30 2007, 12:06 PM) [snapback]281051[/snapback]
Good luck to him. Not quite how he used to be, but still capable of causing damage. As long as it's not against us, I'll be happy.

Indeed - Del was too old for the JM 'wee boys who do what they're told' regime IMHO.
mortonjag 2007-05-30 15:16:21
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 30 2007, 02:18 PM) [snapback]281150[/snapback]
I can't believe anyone is buying this.

The sad little 'Tim' is SO pleased with himSELVES.
mortonjag 2007-05-30 15:22:59
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 30 2007, 01:58 PM) [snapback]281142[/snapback]
Bravo 20

Clap score
mortonjag 2007-05-30 15:26:18
QUOTE(PotatoBhoy @ May 30 2007, 02:24 PM) [snapback]281152[/snapback]
wis wrong wi grodon brown man hes labour and aw fer the peepil like ma dad says man you should vote fer i party that dae i most fer ye and ats labour not like the snobs an at.

Promise broken within 24hrs eh Mick. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-30 15:27:31
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 30 2007, 03:24 PM) [snapback]281211[/snapback]
Lumbering a hairy

buggering a fairy
mortonjag 2007-05-30 15:29:02
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 30 2007, 03:16 PM) [snapback]281206[/snapback]
It would amaze you the amount of traffic on the river during the night. ohmy.gif

I know- the camber on that big new roundabout in the Port's ridiculous.
mortonjag 2007-05-30 15:33:46 This, ladies and gentlemen, is just a discussion about whose experience of rape has been the least painful.

From a PURELY personal viewpoint- I've used several banks over the years, both for business, and domestic purposes- the RBS is an absolutely ruthless shark.
mortonjag 2007-05-30 15:37:57
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 30 2007, 03:35 PM) [snapback]281218[/snapback]
Peter Pan

ddfr
mortonjag 2007-05-30 15:40:23
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ May 30 2007, 02:09 PM) [snapback]281149[/snapback]
What do you consider to be the bravest thing you have ever done?

PS Mr Norris need not apply.

What are you needing done HT? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-30 15:44:56
QUOTE(lush @ May 30 2007, 12:13 PM) [snapback]281056[/snapback]
Noooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Take the plunge Lush-you'll have a whale of a time-members are fin on the ground, and posts only come in waves.
mortonjag 2007-05-30 15:50:55 [quote name='Sick Mick' date='May 30 2007, 03:45 PM' post='281229']
Bet you got a right good stauner through your clatty auld bathrobe when you saw me post in a thread about Celtic.

Away and feed the [b]pidgeons, I wouldn't be surprised if either of these wind up posters was you.
[/quote[/b]]
Oh but you WOULD, because you know who you are-and it's 'pigeons' where I come from bright spark.
mortonjag 2007-05-30 15:54:32
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 30 2007, 03:51 PM) [snapback]281238[/snapback]
In shcumi's first race he qualified a Jordan 7th.
At Spa.
Which is a fecking mental race track.
Hamilton does not show that sort of insane genius.

Schumacher was very good-but not great IMO-just watch Hamilton over the next year or so.
mortonjag 2007-05-30 15:55:22
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 30 2007, 03:54 PM) [snapback]281241[/snapback]
Dictator

scribe
mortonjag 2007-05-30 15:59:19
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 30 2007, 03:54 PM) [snapback]281244[/snapback]
Try working the buttons properly, bright spark laugh.gif

Is that what it's come to Mick Bhoy that other one I've forgotten already!

Shadow of your former self when you can't drag up your usual theme eh! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-30 16:12:19
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 30 2007, 04:08 PM) [snapback]281257[/snapback]
You mentioned him not me, potatobhoy wink.gif

Talking to yourself-hard to manage three ID's Mick-not really that bright.
mortonjag 2007-05-30 16:15:43
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 30 2007, 04:06 PM) [snapback]281256[/snapback]
I was just proving a point to myself about you, auld fellah laugh.gif

You really cannot let me have one post without replying, congrats.

I've never had a stalker before, this is ace biggrin.gif

Well there's a first time for everything Mick/Bhoy/Spud-the only stockings you know about are are your old Dear's-right up to the VERY top.
mortonjag 2007-05-30 16:20:54
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 30 2007, 04:17 PM) [snapback]281261[/snapback]
For f*ck's sake man, who are you trying to kid? laugh.gif

Why would I make a false account to mock myself? Would that not be the type of thing done by a crazy degenerate old man with a grudge against me? huh.gif

AH-we're back to the lies and the devious spin Mick/Bhoy/Spud. Don't forget the trouble you've caused already. Mr tontastic has ways of knowing things you little prat.
mortonjag 2007-05-30 16:23:27
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 30 2007, 04:19 PM) [snapback]281265[/snapback]
I don't mean to alarm you but...

YOU'RE MISSING COUNTDOWN!!! ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

I can spell quite nicely thank you, and Countdown's incidentally an excellent programme. YOU'D do well to take it in-all three of you.
mortonjag 2007-05-30 17:26:59
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 30 2007, 04:28 PM) [snapback]281282[/snapback]
It's that pathetic auld c*nt.

Even when I drop it, he won't let it stay dropped. He makes fake accounts to stir everyone back up again. Whoever is in charge needs to seriously get him to F*CK.

In one post young Clocherty you have called me a pathetic auld c*nt, wrongly accused me of making up false accounts, to 'stir thing up', and suggested that those in charge should be getting rid of ME.

You've dropped absolutely nothing. Every now and again your bottle wavers a bit-especially when your father is mentioned, but it's clear that you're hell bent on proving to yourself and a few other misguided posters that you are indeed the BIG MICK.

You've repeatedly falsely accused me and others of anti -Catholic bias, and caused no end of mischief in the process.

Now when you sense your bluff's being successfully called, you resort to gutter sniping allegations.

Mick you're sitting on a knife's edge. I haven't a clue why it matters so much to a self opinionated 18 year old Celtic supporter to make a complete fool of himself on our Morton forum.

I challenge you to make your feelings clear to 'whoever is in charge'. I guarantee you will not.
mortonjag 2007-05-30 17:37:37
QUOTE(Up the Ton @ May 30 2007, 03:54 PM) [snapback]281242[/snapback]
You have problems......

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-31 05:09:26
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ May 31 2007, 04:01 AM) [snapback]281602[/snapback]
Hello , I'm a Celtic fan too , thats why I gave myself the username Wee DUBLIN End , usually I go and watch Morton but I always wear my Celtic top and one of my favourite parts of the match is when they read out the half time scores , especially if the Bhoys are winning and its even better if the monkeys are getting beat too ; man.

mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-31 05:14:54
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 30 2007, 04:06 PM) [snapback]281255[/snapback]
it's certainly going swimmingly, now we're all singing the same tuna. and as long as my herring holds out, we'll maybe get some bass action on the go - although to be honest i don't give a flyingfish!

Congrats on netting the job. I know you'll be a dab hand very soon. Keep the scales nicely balanced.

BTW will you now be unable to do the tiddling wee pun thread seeing you'll be a big fish?
mortonjag 2007-05-31 05:23:21
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 30 2007, 06:19 PM) [snapback]281338[/snapback]
[/b]
Would the prospect of a reward not entice some of those involved in the 'kidnapping ' to come foward .
I still find it uncomfortable that the McCanns can continue with their crusade to the press and dignitories without being so racked with guilt for abandoning their children in the first place .

Discounting their possible, albeit unthinkable involvement in the disappearance, the behaviour can easily be understood in the sense of 'denial'.

They are two highly intelligent, and presumably logical professional people who have gone to enormous lengths to deflect all attention away from the events immediately prior to the child going missing, and who seem to spend every minute of every day trying to convince themselves and everybody else that there's no question of her not still being alive.

In this morning's Herald is is stated 'she WAS abducted'-even the Herald's normal open mindedness has been clouded. Gerry and Kate had a 30 SEC audience with the Pope, before finalising plans for their next step on the propaganda trail-to Germany, and the Netherlands.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 05:45:20
QUOTE(amy @ May 30 2007, 07:54 PM) [snapback]281374[/snapback]
What a bunch of hypocrites in this board.

We always say to old firm fans why don't you support your local team?

When Morton were faced with going to the wall, and people were donating to money "save the ton"
when we had the buckets and people made donations because they cared. Was the only money accepted from non old firm supporting fans? Do you think it was only Morton fans themselves that donated money?

People on here seem to think that Morton is "there club" that because its there main team, that people who support the old firm shouldn't be allowed to post on a Morton board even they though they live in the local community and Morton are there local team, whom they have a soft spot for and go to games whenever they can. The attitude seems to be now Morton is a healthy club fans want to pick and choose who goes to there games or who can support them. Old firm fans in inverclyde who helped out Morton in there hour of need donated money when they could are being to "F*ck off to greyskull or the tatty bowl" there not needed anymore. Thats not right, not right at all and am sure the club would agree.

Morton fans should be welcoming new supporters or people who have a soft spot for Morton, ANY SUPPORT is better than NO SUPPORT. It can only makes us stronger money spent on Morton helps the club and helps US. Even if they have a bigger team they support and they come to the occassional morton. Even Old Firm supporters have kids say they bring there kids to a few games, thats some extra revenue for us and maybe a future supporter - YOU NEVER KNOW!

I wish some people on here would stop labelling all old firm supporters bigots, its a generalisation. This intolerent, backward atittude isn't healthy and frankly embarrassing, intolerence really does seem to be a way of life in the west of Scotland it really is a shame.

Amy I agree wholeheartedly with most of your post. My younger son has an Ibrox season ticket, but he often comes with us to support the TON. When he does he wears a TON scarf. He is married to a girl who converted to Judaism from Catholicism-and he's certainly no bigot. My daughter and her husband are Celtic supporters, and my daughter is a Catholic. She's been to two or three TON games with me in recent years, and neither she nor Vinny is a bigot.

The problem is in perception. The behaviour of a relatively small proportion of fans on either side of the 'divide' does cause misconceived ideas, just as it stirs up dormant and normally innocent allegiances to the OF in predominantly TON supporters.

To get back to the topic, and Chrissiboi has crystallised it in the question he posed, any OF fan is welcome on our forums and at Scapa, but only if he has the Ton's best interests at heart.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 06:33:07
QUOTE(JonaTon @ May 31 2007, 12:07 AM) [snapback]281553[/snapback]
He just wasn't good enough.

Statement or opinion? Seemed to me he worked his bloody balls off for the first half of the season as target man until Sanny found form, and then the wee 'striker of convenience' cost him his place and he lost interest. Del's not finished yet IMO.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 06:39:06
QUOTE(arklesTON @ May 30 2007, 10:37 PM) [snapback]281512[/snapback]
Sounds like this has happened before to you.

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MUCH, MUCH closer to the mark than you'd EVER believe Narky-but I've got to keep my head up high nowadays, and for once that's NOT tongue in cheek.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 06:43:36
QUOTE(arklesTON @ May 30 2007, 11:00 PM) [snapback]281521[/snapback]
Having read down this thread I can appreciate why some may think that earnings are a personal matter that they wouldnt wish to discuss. There are a lot of hardworking, talented and well-educated people on this forum, but there are very few high-flyers on here. That is an indicative of the UK as a whole, that people are undervalued in the workplace.

I can understand why some folk may have got annoyed when Trick scoffed at £400 a week, saying he couldnt live off that kind of money, especially as many on this messageboard would be paying mortgages, rents, unfair and unjust council tax and student loans etc. from an average workers wage, which by Inverclyde standards would be less than the £400 quoted and less than the Scottish average of £26k/a.

Message for Trick, if your boss only paid you £400 a week and you couldnt earn more elsewhere, you would have no option but to live off it. It would be a case of cutting your cloth accordingly, and the 4x4 would be pawned to make way for a Corsa, or even still, a Zonecard.

Top speed 4 m.p.h. 0-60m.p.h. not tested.-flexible little model, which will take you anywhere very economically, and even the ladies will have no bother parking it.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 06:52:43 '2 shags' Prescott, who's 69 (imagine!) mad.gif

Titanic was launched 96 years ago today in Belfast.
and to Lancashire Hot Pot and Ally Ton x-many happy returns. Let's hope the June weather's better than Di Maggio.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 06:56:48
QUOTE(JonaTon @ May 31 2007, 06:12 AM) [snapback]281612[/snapback]
BBC Pundit Gordon Smith is close to being (or has already been) appointed successor to David Taylor as the SFA Chief Executive.

A good appointment in my opinion and a big surprise to see a former player who (in my opinion) talks sense about the game given the position.

SFA to appoint Gordon Smith

Not only an ex player, but a sensible guy who's remained very close to the playing side of the game as an agent and media commentator. I expect he'll make a good job of it and earn every penny of his reported £140,000 p.a.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 07:01:39
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ May 30 2007, 10:55 AM) [snapback]281015[/snapback]
James ,

Thankyou for your response and kind gesture of a meal should I return. It's unlikely I will return to Australia in the near future. I did enjoy my time there and that incident was a one off.

I wrote my email to you on the evening of my visit to Gilhooley's. I was frustrated at that time. It would be my wish that no severe action is taken against any of your staff. I have moved on. As far as I am concerned the matter is closed

I think , it was more of a sequence of ''mis-understandings'' than anything else. The situation could have been handled more efficiently though and perhaps highlighting that is all you may feel is necessary should you discuss with your staff , inparticular the male bartender for his ''p*** off'' and ''your not welcome in Australia'' comments. It's not for me to say though how you deal with issues.

Anyway , thanks again for you response. I appreciate it and I have no ill-feeling ; it was just one of those things , could have have happened anywhere , Glasgow included.

I did want you to fire that c*nt, but apparently his brothers work as bouncers in Glasgow, and I seem to have misplaced my diary.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 07:04:35
QUOTE(tigerjock @ May 31 2007, 12:35 AM) [snapback]281563[/snapback]
Maybe it was deleted because most of the posts were complete and utter pish, with chief sh1t stirrer supreme in evidence as usual

Another classically erudite comment from STRIPEY C0CK! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-31 07:13:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 31 2007, 02:29 AM) [snapback]281591[/snapback]
Would it REALLY turn his world upside down if he discovered his great Grandfather had been English?
Or Norman ?

Or Australian ?

Or ????

Remember the old quotation from Hamlet-'The lady doth protest too much, methinks', NewTon!


I've got this hunch-only a hunch-mind-that the good CLAYMORE C0CK's just desperate to cover something up. He's probably traced his family tree back about fifty generations, only to discover that one of his male ancestors had a birthmark in the shape of a red rose.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 07:19:46
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 31 2007, 07:08 AM) [snapback]281620[/snapback]
Gidday mortomjag,

I know that you don't believe in the aphrodisiac qualities of oysters.

These may be different.

Viagra oysters face stiff opposition.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=270449
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'500g of smoked haddock, 200g of cod roe- glances quickly round-and six of your excellent viagra oysters'!

Totally naff idea NewTon-Viagra WINKLES maybe-Viagra oysters-not a chance.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 07:21:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 31 2007, 07:18 AM) [snapback]281623[/snapback]
A red rose birthmark on a claymore c0ck

- I would like to see that - NOT.

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Sometimes you are so squeamish-but I understand! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-31 07:23:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 31 2007, 07:15 AM) [snapback]281622[/snapback]
STRIPEY C0CK

Stripes rather than hoops.

Would they be longitudinal ?

as defined in the Macquarie Dictionary ...
going onwards in the direction of the length of a thing.
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HOOPY C0CK doesn't sound right though-makes me think of my old friend Pertussis.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 07:26:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 31 2007, 07:23 AM) [snapback]281626[/snapback]
Totally naff idea

? ? ? ?

They will sell lots to Japanese tourists.

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Indeed? I was thinking more of Inverclyde punters though. I thought the 'Japs' were wee hard men anyway.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 07:28:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 31 2007, 07:26 AM) [snapback]281628[/snapback]
how about candy stripes like they had on the pole outside a barber's shop ?

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Talking of which-do you remember black strippit balls? It was a sweetie BTW, not one of your classmates in the Academy.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 07:39:50
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 30 2007, 10:25 PM) [snapback]281505[/snapback]
Cal me cynical, but i get the feeling the indian contestant was put in for a very good reason... dry.gif

aye-they've got some f*ckin' cowboy lined up to shag her up the arse and kid on it happened in private.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 07:44:57
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 31 2007, 07:39 AM) [snapback]281632[/snapback]
black strippit balls?

naw - only black polka dot balls.

And Haldane got some that were blue polka dots.

Carl Bertelsen is heading one on page 69 of Jim Jeffrey's book

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Soor plooms?
mortonjag 2007-05-31 07:46:32
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ May 31 2007, 01:42 AM) [snapback]281579[/snapback]
chebs? that's just wilfully obscure. what's wrong with juggs?

BIG BOUNCY BRISTOLS
mortonjag 2007-05-31 07:51:26
QUOTE(ThornTON @ May 30 2007, 09:03 PM) [snapback]281443[/snapback]
I don't, how anyone could find watching people sitting about talking all day, or worse they film them when they're f***ing sleeping, is beyond me.

Is THAT what they do-hey ThornTON-you seem to know all about it!
mortonjag 2007-05-31 08:00:13 I'm unrepentant.

BB'S one of the best laughs of the year on the 'Box'.

I wouldn't miss it for anything, and TBH it's more sincere than some of the brainwashing that has todays kids thinking naff music and clothes are 'it'.

Every single 'contestant' has auditioned against fierce competition-they all know EXACTLY what to expect-EXPLOITATION-nope.

Channel 4's simply catering for a natural curiosity in freaks, and I love how they tear each other to shreds and form their wee cliques. Best of all are the ones who say-'Well I really don't care if I win or not'. laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-31 08:09:20
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 31 2007, 07:30 AM) [snapback]281631[/snapback]
I thought the 'Japs' were wee hard men anyway.

You are half right, mate.

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Not the tallest I agree, but into the marshalls arse and all that stuff I meant.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 08:13:14 rolleyes.gif

Congratulations Edinton-you are such a lovely man-couldn't have chosen better! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-31 08:52:33
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ May 31 2007, 08:42 AM) [snapback]281646[/snapback]
I didn't see the programme, but from the sounds of it the Ma is talking sh*te. The NHS shouldn't be expected to give fat children special counselling, most of the time it's the parents who are to blame.

In this day and age sometimes parents are going to have to say: "Actually, you're fat. I'm going to put you ona diet and make sure you do a bit of exercising."


Rather than:

"Aw, rough day at school? sad.gif Here, have another pizza..."

Spot on Mick.

Mind you you can only generalise. In Thrax's example, which I didn't see, it's perfectly possible that the mother was correct. As you probably know, the teenage years are often handled very poorly by psychologically vulnerable kids, and some just 'comfort eat' like there's no end, when maybe a wee course of counselling COULD sort the problem.

Either way, treating the long term effects of significant obesity costs vastly more than paying a counsellor or psychologist for -say-20 hrs work.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 08:57:54
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ May 31 2007, 08:47 AM) [snapback]281648[/snapback]
Gretna had strength in depth, something we don't have.

Ultimately Gre£na had money, and money often does buy success-it's down to how much Dougie's able and willing to splash, and MORE importantly, to getting the right guys in this time.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 09:12:15
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ May 31 2007, 08:57 AM) [snapback]281652[/snapback]
i dont disagree the lassies probbly had a god awful time with it...but theres gotta be a point where you just look at yourself and go... "f*** sake, im huge"

she sounded like a clever girl aswell, alot of commen sense. I don't see how anyone with half a brain can get that size.

im with Greacen. The maw certainly wasnt helping, the father never seemed to care, all he went on about was " i hope she gets thin so she can get a boyfriend and get away from here".

aye ok. Its gonna take years for this girl to take charge of her life and they really never helped a bit and made themselves look incompetent on TV to boot

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Reminds me of the song about the ugly duckling who suddenly discovered she was a beautiful swan!

It's often extremely complex in individual cases Thrax-you say the girl was intelligent-she knew fine well she was getting fatter and uglier, and was undoubtedly seeing glances and hearing remarks, if not subjected to open bullying-yet she CHOSE to keep stuffing her face.

It's very similar to the alcoholic who becomes powerless over drink, and whose life is rendered unmanageable-or the junkie-or the gambler.

I'm not saying that overeating is an addiction, but the psychological benefits of gorging, and/or being fat outweigh rolleyes.gif everything else.

Kids often use their 'disabilities' to gainfully manipulate their parents and friends, and in the case of juvenile obesity, reach 'a point of no return'-they might finally want to sort matters but it's just too big a hurdle for them to cope without help.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 09:19:14
QUOTE(lush @ May 31 2007, 09:07 AM) [snapback]281656[/snapback]
Has he taken over Nachos job? unsure.gif

Yip-rode into town totin' his shooters, and that goddam Sheriff's bitten the dust! Weell not quite Lush-Nach0's made an announcement.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 09:39:30
QUOTE(lush @ May 31 2007, 09:22 AM) [snapback]281661[/snapback]
Never noticed the announcement, just read it. Good luck Edinton, does that mean he will stop his rubbish jokes now? wink.gif

I've asked him that question too-though I prefer to think of them as highly sophisticated puns! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-31 09:44:49
QUOTE(ThornTON @ May 31 2007, 09:39 AM) [snapback]281672[/snapback]
All in one post MJ, stop being a post wh*re!

You calling me a postitute? EH ? mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-31 09:45:49
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 31 2007, 09:42 AM) [snapback]281674[/snapback]
No. A thousand times NO. If I wanted to watch social misfits, I'd hang around the DHSS offices in Dumfries.

You'll get a better concentration at Holyrood.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 09:48:03
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ May 31 2007, 09:45 AM) [snapback]281677[/snapback]
For those of us not interested in BB there are two far more interesting and intelligent programmes on at the same time

Sky One - Grass growing for beginners

E4 - Lets watch the paint dry

BBC 3- What you always wanted to know about your epiglottis and were afraid to ask.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 09:50:02
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 31 2007, 09:48 AM) [snapback]281680[/snapback]
There's a number of tidies in there so fingers crossed for some lesbo action. Yaya.

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mortonjag 2007-05-31 09:52:52
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ May 31 2007, 09:33 AM) [snapback]281669[/snapback]
A good apointment in my opinion. He has a background in football as a player, assistant manager as well as a football agent. I also understand he has a University background in business so there is a happy medium there between management and football. Better than previous senior figures who have law, accountancy and chartered surveyor backgrounds.

...and brains in their tadgers.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 09:57:43
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ May 31 2007, 09:22 AM) [snapback]281662[/snapback]
I do 100% agree with you. The only thing that annoyed me was their constant "blame" if you will.

the girl was obviously in denial. She kept going on about how she wore her mp3 player everywhere so she couldnt hear people slag her off and how she would barely go out.

i feel for her, really. i just think in some extreme cases such as this there has to be an element of responsibility from herself and her family and in all fairness she was giving it a right good go, her family however didnt seem to help in the slightest

The kid feels guilt because she's been manipulating, and the family feel guilt because they've been enabling. You see it all the time in addiction counselling Thrax. It's easy to transfer the guilt by blaming others, and frequently it's done sub consciously, by both sides.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 10:06:20
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ May 31 2007, 09:59 AM) [snapback]281684[/snapback]
She is more or less telling you her "secret-sauce†on how she is able to command a salary of £90k a year. She imagines the target audience and then builds the marketing campaign round it. Always, surprising that Oxbridge types are able to imagine themselves in the role of “Joe-public†when in reality a great deal of them have no connection with everyday life. Sometimes I think this ruthlessness or lack of understanding makes them impervious to criticism and “ideal†for making the hard decisions.

I once worked with a guy who quote “couldn’t wait to sack his first worker, as it would show who was in controlâ€. There were to be no warnings or justifications for his actions. Needless to say he was reeled in and advised against it.

Would that be a different 'Joe Public' from the one in whose role Doctors, Lawyers, and so on who graduated from 'normal' Universities imagine they see themselves?
mortonjag 2007-05-31 10:17:39
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 31 2007, 10:12 AM) [snapback]281689[/snapback]
Thank you, you are as always most gracious with your choice of smiley smile.gif
Eh....no smile.gif
Correct cool.gif
Lets hope I don't derail the forum! (that one was for you Lush....)

I can't resist 'birly eyes'-my favourite!

So far as Lush is concerned that one will have hit the buffers!
mortonjag 2007-05-31 10:27:35
QUOTE(mcgregortotnes @ May 31 2007, 10:02 AM) [snapback]281685[/snapback]
30 years ago Scotland produced more world class players per head of the Scottish population and the national team (erratic results) was in the main a class act. Do you think until ther is a capping of numbers on foreign imports our national side will never rise to those old dizzy heights as a class act and furthermore if we did introduce capping it would force clubs to develop good youth policy football and in doing so force up the level of ability.Many chairmen only see clubs as a businees venture and see only the the short term picture and therefore youth policies suffer. How can we make chairman see the bigger picture?

I think it's much more down to population size, and social change than administration, though Denmark is one example which contradicts that.

30 years ago football was far more popular as the first choice sport for the vast majority of Scots. Now there's a huge choice, and soccer has, in consequence, lost out.

In many other countries-the 'States' for example, soccer was virtually unheard of in the seventies, but has rapidly gained in popularity-and of course the population of many of those is vastly greater than ours.

Going back even further to the fifties and sixties, the backbone of most of the best English 1st Division sides (as they were then) was Scottish, as was often the manager.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 10:38:47 I've just got this scary scenario of a great wee goalie who's one failing is high balls standing behind Greacen and Harding who at the best of times tend to go for the same high ball, and our having no proper fullbacks.

The 'first' is a pretty physical division-I can just see high ball after high ball being punted into the box, and every side with half decent wingers slinging over crosses all day long unsure.gif .
mortonjag 2007-05-31 10:52:34
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ May 31 2007, 10:23 AM) [snapback]281694[/snapback]
Ah, so you think that the Oxbridge academic population is an accurate reflection of the general population? Quite different from my day. In fact quite different from my last invited visit to Cambridge.

Don't be daft-I just don't think that the cream of the academic population of the (other) top ten or so Universities in Britain is necessarily that much different in outlook or cares much more.

The fact that most of the Oxbridge lot have 'silver spoon syndrome' doesn't necessarily automatically make them less caring or less willing to understand.

I've discovered that many successful Scottish Graduates have all to easily and willingly discarded or conveniently forgotten their early days. Oxbridge undergraduates are for the most 'jumped up prats' HT, but it's when they enter the real world that their basic personalities come into play.

Incidentally, my youngest brother (ex Greenock Academy) has a 'First' from Oxford, and he f*cking hated the place.He refused to attend his graduation ceremony because he couldn't abide the pomp.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 10:59:25
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ May 31 2007, 10:51 AM) [snapback]281704[/snapback]
Correct me if I'm wrong but do you not watch Professional Wrestling ? rolleyes.gif

Each to their own wouldn't you say?

Why take BB so seriously? It's pish but its quite funny. The contestants are ar4eholes but its funny laughing at them.
There's only one type more pretentious than a Big Brother contestant and that's the " I wouldn't lower myself to watch that" brigade.

BB has been on TV for the whole Summer every Summer for the last 8 eight years, so we've all watched some of it and it doesn't make you sad or pathetic to have an opinion on someone you have seen on your TV for 9 weeks or so.

I agree that's it's lowest common denominator viewing and the contestants are the lowest of the low but you can take what you want from it.

Spot on Sir!
mortonjag 2007-05-31 11:02:12
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 31 2007, 10:56 AM) [snapback]281708[/snapback]
Ed, your first job as admin should be to ban yourself and MJ from those bloody puns!

We have a ticket inspector on board it seems!
mortonjag 2007-05-31 11:10:11
QUOTE(ThornTON @ May 31 2007, 10:34 AM) [snapback]281700[/snapback]
Dillon
Kilmarnock -> Morton -> Stenhousemuir -> Stranraer -> Irvine

McGregor
Morton (and nearing testimonial, GIRUY)

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You and your bloody stats. Benny Boy's OBVIOUSLY meaning as a left back where Davie is poor, and Dillon was always very effective. McGregor may be more of a natural 'footballer', but I'd have Shaun in that spot right now. I remember in that horrendous weather at Livvi the boy played his heart out and gave as good as he got.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 11:42:49
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ May 31 2007, 11:06 AM) [snapback]281718[/snapback]
i've been usiong this board(and its predecessors) for years too mate, and have also see n plenty of windup merchants.

i also recieved a PM from him saying "thanks for not having a go at me, im serious about morton and people are having a go at me for no reason" so go figure. maybe he called you a wideo because he feels you have treated him unreasonably (no idea what would give him this idea)

the point i made about "having mortons interests at heard" was a direct quote from something MJ said, which you in turn quoted and agreed with

"any OF fan is welcome on our forums and at Scapa, but only if he has the Ton's best interests at heart."

funny how you completely agree with this when MJ says it, but it makes no sense when i say it.

again, please tell me what this guy has done wrong?

finally, regarding the point about OF usernames - plenty of users have other teams names in their aliases "blades, jags, palace, ipswich). whats the difference? fact of the matter is he has said precisely NOTHING that is even remotely bigoted or in my eyes patronising or whatever.

fact of the matteris, HUNDREDS of OF "fans" come to cappielow every week, and will openly admit that Morton are their second team - do you want them to lie, or pretend otherwise???? get real. like it or not, we are a "wee club" and as such, need as much suopport as possible. the likes of you will only serve to discourage local OF fans from coming along to cappielow

u really do seem to have a chip on your shoulder about this. time for a reality check.

Nach0 possibly is best able to suss out the situation Greacen. If you go back to the first page of the thread you'll see very clearly that there were several of us who doubted the identity. If new bhoy is a genuine poster he's very welcome in my book, but it doesn't take a genius to work out the reason for folk being suspicious.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 12:26:42
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ May 31 2007, 12:13 PM) [snapback]281746[/snapback]
to be fare the new boy or whatever hi is called did not say anything to me it was the part form the port

May be the same person taking the piss but who knows

Like everyone ells has seed if don't let it get to you

I do will and never had a problem taking the p***out of the

so I cany spell so what

It’s more their problem that they don't take the effort to try and work out what I mean like you good guys do
it is aprecheated

Pedro-you've got dyslexia-some of those wee f*nnies just can't spell-END OF!
mortonjag 2007-05-31 12:31:25
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ May 31 2007, 12:12 PM) [snapback]281745[/snapback]
No-one knows what really happened behind the scenes, but if the manager has seen fit to allow him another chance, then I'm all for it, especially considering O'Connor is a right good player and showed that last night.

Succinctly put.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 12:34:06
QUOTE(rex manning @ May 31 2007, 12:13 PM) [snapback]281747[/snapback]
He's an ar$ehole, but there was no other realistic option, and he scored, so cheers Gary... but your still a tw@t.

I'd guess some 25% of highly paid professional footballers of his age could be thus described. If we can put 11 *rseholes out next season and get promotion, I'll willingly kiss JM's.

Only once, mind.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 12:39:39
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 31 2007, 12:15 PM) [snapback]281748[/snapback]
A lot of fans didn't have much time for Marco and John but you cannot take away the affection they have for our club and town, I've been in Johns company a few times and have always enjoyed it and been impressed with the way he talks about his time here.

I for one wish them both all the best for the future no matter what they go on to do.

This is all puzzling me.

I thought the Maisanos played a big part at Scapa, but recently there's been a lot of bad mouthing them, Spoonsy, Williams, and an unnamed Goalie.

Williams appears to be a wee toe rag.

Spoonsy strikes me as very easily led-and he's been much more mature IMO.

What was the problem with the Aussies, and this mystery keeper?
mortonjag 2007-05-31 12:52:31
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 31 2007, 12:31 PM) [snapback]281753[/snapback]
its the group he is in just like me to do modding duties tongue.gif

We mere posters will be getting all confused shortly if this isn't sorted out.

Once upon a time there were three Gaffers, Daddy Gaffer, who was the REAL Gaffer, Mummy Gaffer, who thought she was the real Gaffer, but that was Daddy gaffer, and Baby Gaffer, who wasn't really a Gaffer at all.

They all lived in a GROUP of Gaffers where they spent most of their time taking pictures, making porridge, and grunting at each other, about who should do what and to whom.

One fine day...

Feel free to continue! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-31 13:01:16
QUOTE(Robert the Bruce @ May 31 2007, 12:54 PM) [snapback]281770[/snapback]
What kind of pants did they all wear MJ?

I only have this from an extremely unreliable source-Mummy Gaffer ACTUALLY wore the pants, as is so often the case, but cleverly made Daddy Gaffer think he had pants on when in fact he only had a BEAR arse. Baby Gaffer frequently 'came' in short pants.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 13:05:30
QUOTE(InverAlly @ May 31 2007, 01:02 PM) [snapback]281774[/snapback]
The Maisanos

1. They bevvied like it was going out of fashion. (I witnessed John being [b]carried out of a venue one evening)
2. They had big personalities which affected/influenced other players. (Spoonsy is the prime example)
3. John smoked.[/b]
4. Marco couldnae play football.
5. Their exotic names/friendliness/big personalities disguised their lack of professionalism/ability.

Remember, although we one the 3rd Division with them, we did it by the narrowest of margins, we were the better of a bad bunch, they were eventually found out, thank god!

FFS-they almost sound like the average football professional in his leisure time!
mortonjag 2007-05-31 13:08:29
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 31 2007, 01:02 PM) [snapback]281775[/snapback]
Anyone who calls someone a "wideo" clearly has the intelligence of a walnut.

Anyone who calls someone a 'pr*ck' clearly has the intelligence of a peanut.

...take it this IS word association! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-31 13:11:06
QUOTE(new_bhoy @ May 31 2007, 01:08 PM) [snapback]281781[/snapback]
i would just like to say i'm glad peter realises it was'nt me trying to take the piss out of him.I know peter from school and would'nt do that.And i would also like to say that it was'nt me who called that guy a weirdo this is only my second day on the board and i think i'm getting blamed for other people's actions

Seems you're the 'clean potato' after all-you certainly couldn't have picked a worse moment to jump on board calling yourself 'new bhoy'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-31 13:14:08
QUOTE(Robert the Bruce @ May 31 2007, 01:07 PM) [snapback]281779[/snapback]
Ah, so host Bear is mummy bear, new gaffer bear is daddy bear and baby bear just wants a lolly.

...You'd have to ask my extremely unreliable source, whom I can't BEAR to talk to twice in one day.

I'd suggest that all the Gaffers in the group are equal, though some are more equal than others.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 13:16:14
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ May 31 2007, 01:13 PM) [snapback]281790[/snapback]
thats an insult to a peanut

I wasn't talking about big salted ones Pedro-just tiny wee peanuts.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 13:18:12
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ May 31 2007, 01:17 PM) [snapback]281798[/snapback]
and wher does dry rosted come in to it then wink.gif

still at university so wouldn't judge them too soon.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 13:19:38
QUOTE(new_bhoy @ May 31 2007, 01:16 PM) [snapback]281796[/snapback]
i'm not very good at picking catchy names it was one of my mates who is a member of the board who suggested it.Wait till i see him he's getting kicked squarley in the nuts

Walnuts, peanuts, large nuts, small nuts, square nuts, round nuts, dry roasted or ground nuts?
mortonjag 2007-05-31 13:38:28
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 31 2007, 01:18 PM) [snapback]281802[/snapback]
What about Holland?

Denmark and Scotland have almost identical populations at around 5 million.

The Netherlands at 16 million rate as the most densely populated land mass in Europe.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 13:49:14
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ May 31 2007, 01:22 PM) [snapback]281809[/snapback]
That reply just goes to emphasise the generation gap.

I'm confused-hopefully you'll elucidate for me. I'm still around the Uni scene a lot HT, and I am talking from personal observation. The said brother is 5 years nearer to your age than he is to mine.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 13:54:29
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 31 2007, 01:42 PM) [snapback]281830[/snapback]
Two disasters launched on the same date.
Congrats to all other birthdays today.

Can you imagine the size of Prescott's birthday cake? laugh.gif

is it measured in %a.b.v?
mortonjag 2007-05-31 13:57:26
QUOTE(Robert the Bruce @ May 31 2007, 01:23 PM) [snapback]281812[/snapback]
Irking pants on then?

Iridescent velvet irking pants with a semi permeable gusset, and tied up with Gaffer tape.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 14:02:00
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 31 2007, 01:53 PM) [snapback]281838[/snapback]
i'd be gutted if I couldn't continue...

Hopefully we can plaice our trust in you-just don't go thinking you're Cod almighty, or you'll soon be knocked from your perch on porpoise.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 14:03:32
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 31 2007, 01:40 PM) [snapback]281828[/snapback]
and its colonies

spot on-many good internationals not actually born in the 'homeland'.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 14:04:15
QUOTE(vikingTON @ May 31 2007, 01:44 PM) [snapback]281833[/snapback]
f*ck me, I thought it was just a mass of windmills, clogs and dykes. blink.gif

thats the protest sit in at the new energy site.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 14:06:27
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ May 31 2007, 01:48 PM) [snapback]281836[/snapback]
I'm not going to start saying he was a bad player because he couldn't take corners, that's a very simplistic view. If Anton Smith could have hit a good corner he would still have been dreadful.

Some of the performances John put in for Morton were of a standard above 2nd Division level, probably even beyond the First - for example, the cup game at Tannadice, and the Peterhead game at Cappielow, even if was only in the 3rd division. Admittedly they were few and fair between, but to say he never had the talent to have made his way in the game simply isn't true imo. What he didn't have was the mentality.

Like Andy Ritchie you mean?
mortonjag 2007-05-31 14:40:29
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ May 31 2007, 02:06 PM) [snapback]281851[/snapback]
Happy to.

1.You are an old codger

2.In your day when you went to University if the spoon was not silver, then it was at least silver-plated. Thus, most of your peers were probably in the same social bracket. There may have been a few scholarships.

3.Many people, who were academically capable of going to higher education, were unfortunately not able to meet the financial demands required. Hopefully, we will not return to those days.

4.I would think that in the 50 and 60’s a high percentage of the University graduates attended schools like The Academy, Paisley Grammar, St Aloysius, etc. rather than Port High, Notre Dame, etc.

5.In the 80’s, 90,s and 00’s a far greater percentage of the young adult population went to higher education. For many families it was the first generation to do so. As a result, I would like to think that very few loose contact with their friends and family, who are incidentally connected to the “real worldâ€.

6.University of Glasgow for example, would have a much different socio-economic profile to the days when you attended. Even though you are obviously still hanging around!

1/ and 2/ and 3/ Grants were, believe it or not, already commonplace when I went to University. I was the eldest of six, and every one of us went through Uni, on the strength of grants, and my Dad's meagre teacher's income. There was a good social mix-certainly at Glasgow, and even in Medicine, I estimate some 30% came from what would have been called working class backgrounds. The current student loan system is far MORE punitive.

4/ In the 50's and 60's any parent from any social class could send his child (if he lived in the relevant catchment areas) to the Grammar, or The Academy, which were 'Fee Paying' only nominally, and by charter, for the princely sum of 3 guineas a term. That would now equate to about £50 a term (adjusted for inflation). All that mattered was performance in the 'Qually' and IQ tests. Kids who were bright but not top 10% still went to Greenock High, or Camphill, where they got excellent (pre comprehensive madness) education for free, and large numbers from various backgrounds went on to Uni.

5/ and 6/ You talk about 'percentages', and 'higher education' as though you got it from a book HT-IMHO much of that higher education has been a 'con' to massage unemployment figures. I see Hamilton's just about to become a 'University', for example.
The ultimate deciding factor for the last 50 years has been academic ability, irrespective of socio-economic factors, though it took 'working class' folks a long time to 'cotton on', and encourage their kids to 'stick in'.

I understood EXACTLY what you meant by the original comment. Oxbridge types tend to be 'snobs'.

I was simply asserting that there is frequently an even greater snobbery in those who have left their roots behind-memories can be conveniently short. Furthermore, socio economic change has dictated that money no longer lies with the 'aristocracy'. It might surprise you to learn that as I daily drive past the nursery school for the most selective and expensive private school in Glasgow, at least 50% of the children are of Asian ethnicity.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 14:52:10
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 31 2007, 02:35 PM) [snapback]281864[/snapback]
Sad feckers the lot of ye

They're not supposed to be macho sodjers Gibby-they are complete tossers- and I get a laugh and a half at their antics-life's rich tapestry an a' that! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-31 20:26:17
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ May 31 2007, 03:08 PM) [snapback]281878[/snapback]
Normally amongst your “monkey ramblings†there is some sense. I honestly think the old cranium is becoming scrambled. I believe that to go to University in your day was far more difficult for young adults who were from a working class background. We require some independent input from the other old duffers who visit the board. You and I have stated our view.

I think the fact that your old man was a teacher would suggest that you yourself were from a middle-class background. I would be amazed if 30% were from 50’s working class families such as shipbuilders, coal miners, etc. Anyway you keep licking the windaes and I will continue to live in my ivory tower.

YOU have stated your view. I have stated fact, including the FACT that the 'working class'-and we could argue the definition of that all night- for countless years failed to take advantage of the system, AS I HAVE DESCRIBED IT. In the same way, the entrenched W. of Scotland working class ideas saw us lag behind the rest of Britain in the housing market. Old codgers have the advantage of having BEEN THERE.

Working class kids left school to work, not because the educational system prevented them from going further but because the mentality was to get them out and earning pronto. I clearly remember one of my class mates in Kilmacolm Primary, whose father was a journalist and whose mum was a primary school teacher and Labour Councillor. He was one of the cleverest kids in the class but he wanted to be a miner (or so he thought at the age of ten) because they earned far more than teachers and the likes, as his parents very well knew.

You can describe teachers of the 50's and 60's as 'middle class' if you wish-they certainly earned extremely poor wages by any standards.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 20:41:40
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ May 31 2007, 05:27 PM) [snapback]282027[/snapback]
im wearin a tie actually tongue.gif

get yer f***in' claes on before the polis hear aboot it.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 20:51:45 There's little enough money in the pot, and you'd imagine it could be spent in a way which saw the best deal for all, based purely on educating children.

Died in the wool political AND religious factors have always hampered progress in the local authority overseen educational system.

NO spin BTW-one of my brothers worked in school 'estates' for years-I KNOW.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 21:04:44
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ May 31 2007, 08:36 PM) [snapback]282091[/snapback]
So it is FACT that ~30% of the students at University of Glasgow were from traditional working class backrounds. Aye right. Your right I have given a viewpoint, you get me the figures then we can discuss facts!

HT it's not like you to be so unreasonable. I started an Arts course at Glasgow in the early sixties, and can tell you categorically that far less than 50% of my fellows came from the middle and upper classes-(by ANY definition of classes). Of the majority, I'd guess it was half and half between 'working class' and low paid 'professional'. Silver spoons-no way Sir!

When I started Medicine in the mid sixties, I DID notice a difference, but not a huge one. As I've correctly stated, some 30% were undoubtedly NOT middle class or 'above'.

Far from asking someone who was THERE to produce figures, you are the one who must do that, if you wish to counter my observations. I have access to the data by making one simple 'phone call, but the potential recipient's far too busy running the bloody Uni for me to bother him with trivia! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-05-31 21:10:10
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ May 31 2007, 09:06 PM) [snapback]282110[/snapback]
will do. i'm phoning them tomorrow afternoon if they haven't phoned me by then.

my wrath will be righteous, you bet.

how long you been waiting? clydesdale as well? i sent my letter off on the 18th of march.

Let's get one thing clear-it's NOT the Clydesdale, or RB of S, or Bank of Dougie Rae for that matter-every major clearing bank in the land is a serial and systematic rapist, and that form of rape, as LCM correctly states, should be countered with utmost vigour.
mortonjag 2007-05-31 21:20:28
QUOTE(GMC @ May 31 2007, 08:19 PM) [snapback]282079[/snapback]
For us to win the league next year, we would need a goalkeeper, a right back, centre back, left back, right mid, defensive mid, left mid, at least 1 striker.

Basically, we have no chance next year. We won't even finish in the top 3. wink.gif

That's TOO heavy IMO!

Goalie-aye.
Left back-aye.
Right back-JM's penchant for 'fitting in' could work, but NOT Spoonsy.
Centre back-aye
Midfield-ONE seasoned arse kicker. We're already over supplied.
Strikers-Weatherson, Linn, Templeman, have all rattled in plenty in the past.
You've not even mentioned wingers-we desperately need at least one to vary our options IMO.
mortonjag 2007-06-01 06:01:24
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ May 31 2007, 11:20 PM) [snapback]282194[/snapback]
Just by coincidence I do have a morning meeting at the Uni tomorrow (trying to help some very capable academics spin out their technology). If I have the time (or can be @rsed) then I may endeavour to find out more, but you are the one claiming to be stating facts, not me. Thus, on this occasion I will retain my views and make note of your observations.

I do appreciate your concerns about my memory HT! smile.gif

BTW, do you know who I'm referring to at the Uni? (If so you could maybe p.m. me) wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-01 06:07:19
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ May 31 2007, 11:27 PM) [snapback]282196[/snapback]
Personally, I blame the non-denom.., the non-denom... the proddy schools.

I was told that Notre Dame did very well in the last inspectors report. Well done.

Qu'est ce qu'elle a fait HT? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-01 06:11:53
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 1 2007, 12:03 AM) [snapback]282222[/snapback]
Oh believe me, they spent a lot of time and money setting up for the inspectors coming in. Even going as far as locking away things in rooms etc that could not be easily accessed (the school has a lot of unused corridors running from the bottom floor).

Well spotted puggs-'HM inspectorate of schools'-the archetypal toothless bulldog-and there's always one dolly bird teacher with big tits and a wee skirt to send the crusty old bod home with a pleasant memory.
mortonjag 2007-06-01 06:16:17 They certainly were musicians, and produced some lasting lyrics-music like all art -is open to personal interpretation.

Mine-nothing has even touched them in the last 40 years.
mortonjag 2007-06-01 06:25:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 1 2007, 03:15 AM) [snapback]282253[/snapback]
Officials in Britain are wrangling over whether former England football captain David Beckham should be given a knighthood, reports claim.

Civil servants have been asked to consider whether he is suitable for the top honour, awarded by Queen Elizabeth II, but some have argued that he should not be made Sir David because he is moving to play in the United States, the London Evening Standard said.

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Is that racist ??

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http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/06/01/1180205463296.html

And will she become Lady Posh Beckham, Posh Lady Beckham, and both.

Some are born titled, some achieve titles, and some have titles thrust upon them.

The latter, the perceptive public who value them at about the same level as a free voucher for a Big Mac.
mortonjag 2007-06-01 06:35:35
QUOTE(reepyrawley @ May 31 2007, 11:29 PM) [snapback]282198[/snapback]
No, not at all, just sick of the world and his wife moaning to me day in, day out about something I have little or no control over, and to resort to namecalling of that kind when my post just disagreed with the common trend, tsk tsk, you my friend are the F***ing tit.

On another note, I did start my post saying that I AGREED the bank charges are excessive, but since no-one here has actually said how much the work costs to return cheques/direct debits/standing orders etc, who's to say that £30 -£40 isn't reflective of the work involved, I will gladly change my opinion.

BTW, Loyal Lass, Mortonjag started the melodrama, I merely tried to point out that the illegality/immorality of bank charges should never be compared to rape, I'm sure you would agree that MJ was overstating slightly, whether to emphasise his point or not, not nice, but since my views in this thread count for sweet FA, I expect more namecalling etc etc etc, because I work for a bank, I see that no-one has started a thread on the robbery that is Council Tax/Fuel Tax/We need to pay for an MP/MSP tax, where does that money go, will there be letters to Holyrood/Westminster/Clyde Square demanding the taxes back that paid for Junkets & Taxi rides, at least banks are honest enough to admit they're out for profit. Let's see all the civil servants defend the higher than inflation council tax rises, what our taxes spent on (or not), or are you all going to blame the banks again because they didn't pay your council tax and charged for the privilige!!

RAPE_vt to plunder, or carry off-I was clearly not using any sexual connotation, though the almost 'incestuously' loyal and rose tinted perception of your own abusive employer is slightly sad.
mortonjag 2007-06-01 06:42:19
QUOTE(Mark_Pickering @ May 31 2007, 11:40 PM) [snapback]282208[/snapback]
Speaking of Burger King. I bought a meal for almost a fiver off them recently. There's no way it cost them that much to make it. Shocking the way they charge these illegal fees for their fast food,i should write them a strong letter!!!

What about those illegal prices we pay for our cheap as fck Vandanell morton tops?

"i dont know how they can justify the prices"

It is well nigh impossible to co exist in modern society without a current bank account-AND for some poor folks well nigh impossible to GET one.

If you don't want to stuff your face and coronary arteries, dripping grease all over your new Ton shirt, you have choice.

The banking system in this country is a self perpetuating monopoly where profit is paramount. Accountability and customer service are expressions not understood by bankers.
mortonjag 2007-06-01 06:50:17
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 31 2007, 11:47 PM) [snapback]282214[/snapback]
I bet you are ya dirty old perv. rolleyes.gif

I am actually scrupulously clean.
mortonjag 2007-06-01 07:00:57
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 31 2007, 09:30 PM) [snapback]282123[/snapback]
Success is shutting mortonjag up laugh.gif

....you are EXTREMELY ambitious young man! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-01 07:05:32
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 1 2007, 12:40 AM) [snapback]282231[/snapback]
While we're all debating what may or may not be a succesful season coming up, has anyone actually got any idea what the board/managements intentions are for the year?

I've not heard anyone from the club state we're looking to consolidate or mount a promotion challenge.

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To do exactly what Dougie tells them-as always.
mortonjag 2007-06-01 07:26:53
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jun 1 2007, 06:13 AM) [snapback]282263[/snapback]
Aye very good. Andy Ritchie tormented the country's best teams. Scored a winner at Ibrox did he not? Scored a few against the best Aberdeen side ever. To draw comparisons with John Maisano is quite frankly daft.

Did you READ my post, or just pop in at some point ratarse? rolleyes.gif

I was talking about 'attitude', and Big Andy made John Maisano look like a beaver on speed. Ask any of the oldies!
mortonjag 2007-06-01 07:38:00 Fifty years since ERNIE picked the first Premium Bond Winner, and ten years since Bliar publicly apologised to the Irish people for British actions during the potato famine.-Seems like yesterday!! blink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-01 07:40:04
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ May 31 2007, 06:00 PM) [snapback]282045[/snapback]
I dont look at the site for a while and this post goes WAY off topic hahaha tongue.gif

Poor pun Scott-but aye-waterWAY-I suppose- is bloater than nothing.
mortonjag 2007-06-01 07:43:44 Only one month 'til July and some footie. May's normally a nice month but it's been disappointing weather. Let's hope we get a sunny June-everybody will brighten up, and you'll all stop arguing, back biting, and self opinionating, finally accepting that only Mortonjag knows everything. wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-01 07:53:08
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 1 2007, 12:57 AM) [snapback]282238[/snapback]
Not true.
One's personal fortune or destiny is shaped, influenced, limited or unlimited by a multitude of factors, not least by sheer bloody chance. If only clever people did well, how come intellectual pygmies like Alan Sugar, Donald Trump or President George 'Lobotomy' Bush are all rolling in it ?

Spot on DE

'Not what you know but whom you know'

'Slept with the boss'

'Face fitted'...

etc., and of course many 'talents' in all fields of human endeavour just never get off the ground through circumstances totally outwith their control.

Mind you PERCEPTION of success seems more and more to be influenced by pound signs than anything else.
mortonjag 2007-06-01 07:56:51 Is in the news again.
mortonjag 2007-06-01 08:13:56
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jun 1 2007, 08:10 AM) [snapback]282281[/snapback]
And whose fault is that?

It is ultimately the fault of one of the original sins-GREED.
mortonjag 2007-06-01 08:16:47
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 1 2007, 08:14 AM) [snapback]282283[/snapback]
PERSONALLY, I BLAME KAFFLICK SCHOOLS.

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mortonjag 2007-06-01 08:44:21
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jun 1 2007, 08:22 AM) [snapback]282287[/snapback]
Yes, but is it banks, government, employers, retailers, others that say you need an account?

It's clearly multifactorial, and IMO it's immoral. On a slightly, but not hugely, different note, it's unbelievable the lengths decent citizens have to go to to make the simplest of transactions.

I'm in the process of 'cashing in', a very small pension-I will ultimately get about 2k and about 25 pounds per month, and have already TWICE, had to send off personal documents to prove my identity.

This is apparently the result of 'money laundering regulations'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-01 08:48:25
QUOTE(shedhead @ Jun 1 2007, 08:44 AM) [snapback]282291[/snapback]
All the same , i'm suprised at MJ starting this thread. rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2007-06-01 08:49:58
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jun 1 2007, 08:44 AM) [snapback]282294[/snapback]
I agree with everything except the last seven words laugh.gif but keep trying to educate us to your way of thinking unsure.gif

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mortonjag 2007-06-01 08:50:17
QUOTE(shedhead @ Jun 1 2007, 08:47 AM) [snapback]282296[/snapback]
What a dick laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2007-06-01 08:51:09
QUOTE(shedhead @ Jun 1 2007, 08:48 AM) [snapback]282298[/snapback]
What a dick rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2007-06-01 08:54:58
QUOTE(dazza @ Jun 1 2007, 08:51 AM) [snapback]282305[/snapback]
Surley there would never be any charges if people manage the account correctly? The cost of the charges outweighing the cost of the admin work is too much, no question. Maybe the banks should start money management classes to educate people on how the manage their finances.

You mean they'd do it all for NOTHING-fantastic -no interest charges, and every aspect of every account managed for free-erm but are they not trying to earn themselves a humble crust-them poor wee bankers?
mortonjag 2007-06-01 08:57:15
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jun 1 2007, 08:53 AM) [snapback]282307[/snapback]
Glad we can agree on that.

Can accept in today's society that you have to provide ID, but to do it twice smacks of inefficiency. Do you trust these folk with your cash?

The only person I trust with my cash is ME-and I usually make a complete arse of it! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-01 09:05:31
QUOTE(dazza @ Jun 1 2007, 08:56 AM) [snapback]282312[/snapback]
Think you've taken my post i the wrong way. DONT SPEND MONEY YOU DONT HAVE AND YOU WONT END UP WITH BANK CHARGES. ITS SIMPLE!!

I know exactly what you mean Dazza-you are correct in principle, but unfortunately it's a big bad world out there-the immoral pressures on folk to part with cash they don't have are just f****NG ENORMOUS, and the majority of folks slip into unauthorised overdraft at least once in a while.

I asked previously why, if an overdraft is 'unauthorised', money can be withdrawn?

Simple-it's not 'unauthorised' they mean at all-it's 'privately welcomed but publicly discouraged', and the software's cynically set up to deduct EVEN MORE from folk who have not got it in the first place.
mortonjag 2007-06-01 09:10:33
QUOTE(shedhead @ Jun 1 2007, 08:58 AM) [snapback]282317[/snapback]
Aye , and the obvious frustration that he displays suggests that the wee thing hasn't worked in years. tongue.gif

Edited to say . Nae luck Newton.

FFFFFrustrated Meee

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mortonjag 2007-06-01 09:12:23
QUOTE(shedhead @ Jun 1 2007, 08:49 AM) [snapback]282299[/snapback]
What a dick rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2007-06-01 09:14:01
QUOTE(shedhead @ Jun 1 2007, 09:12 AM) [snapback]282332[/snapback]
Wonder what thread about Catholics MJ will start next.

Some of them are decent issues , but that does nothing to conceal his agenda.

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mortonjag 2007-06-01 09:17:57
QUOTE(lush @ Jun 1 2007, 09:07 AM) [snapback]282329[/snapback]
I agree with that. rolleyes.gif

Not amusing Lush-not even punny. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-01 09:19:45
QUOTE(shedhead @ Jun 1 2007, 09:16 AM) [snapback]282345[/snapback]
You accept you have an agenda , yet call for anybody who complains about it to be banned .

What an old useless dick. laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2007-06-01 09:23:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 1 2007, 09:16 AM) [snapback]282344[/snapback]
IMHO The White Album was the best.

Will listen again this evening.
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eh-where are you right now? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-01 09:24:24
QUOTE(shedhead @ Jun 1 2007, 09:21 AM) [snapback]282349[/snapback]
I'm not offended at all. It's just that he wants other people banned for pointing out that he hates Catholics.

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mortonjag 2007-06-01 09:27:41
QUOTE(lush @ Jun 1 2007, 08:57 AM) [snapback]282316[/snapback]
You are like a dog with a bone........ rolleyes.gif

...but MUCH less cultured!
mortonjag 2007-06-01 09:33:28 There's, money, there's success, and there's fame. Although not mutually exclusive of any of those singly or in combination, there's also contentment. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-01 09:35:08
QUOTE(lush @ Jun 1 2007, 09:05 AM) [snapback]282326[/snapback]
Did he not say 10 oclock on the first of June? wink.gif

Did he not say a lot of things? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-01 09:36:41
QUOTE(shedhead @ Jun 1 2007, 09:25 AM) [snapback]282355[/snapback]
Cheer up old boy , it's nearly marching season wink.gif

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mortonjag 2007-06-01 09:39:21
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Jun 1 2007, 09:26 AM) [snapback]282357[/snapback]
Just want to thank you all for the info/advice. I am pleased to say I went with none of your suggestions! Got a wee deal of the internet and have bought this 19" bad boy

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mortonjag 2007-06-01 09:40:31
QUOTE(shedhead @ Jun 1 2007, 09:39 AM) [snapback]282365[/snapback]
Ach the old boy loves it. Why else would he constantly post topics about the Catholics. I just bite to give the poor old sod something to do. rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2007-06-01 09:45:29
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Jun 1 2007, 07:56 AM) [snapback]282280[/snapback]
Is in the news again.

...so he is.
mortonjag 2007-06-01 09:47:32
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 1 2007, 09:46 AM) [snapback]282371[/snapback]
This thread's pish.

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mortonjag 2007-06-01 09:53:47
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ May 31 2007, 09:16 PM) [snapback]282113[/snapback]
Definitely the poorest of the three by a distance. Far too long and complicated and not as much fun as the previous two. Some decents bits... give it 6 out of 10). Keira Knightley is way to skinny too, in body profile her chest actually goes in the way! huh.gif She has also gone orange, if you compare her colouring to the previous films.

Is this Keechy Nightie a real person or an animation?
mortonjag 2007-06-01 09:59:17
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 1 2007, 09:03 AM) [snapback]282323[/snapback]
That just about sums up how ridiculous the honours system is as well as the hypocrisy of 'wife slapper' Shir Shawn Baloney. He loves Scotland so much he lives abroad and accepts gongs from the Queen of the 'United Kingdom' laugh.gif

Is it Sir Billy Connolly yet-there are so many it gets rather confusing, though I'm certain I heard something about Dame Rosie Kane.
mortonjag 2007-06-01 10:07:14
QUOTE(McCauley87 @ Jun 1 2007, 09:57 AM) [snapback]282374[/snapback]
That's all within the rules of the Church and nobody should take any of the sacraments if they sinned without being truly sorry, adn I think the cardial was trying to point this out to Catholics throughout the country, not just politicians, at what they were doing in being for abortion.
I don't think the Church is trying to directly sway politicians, I think Cardinal Keith O'Brien was trying to highlight the his viewpoint, and the Churches viewpoint, to make them think perhaops not just about their decisions regarding abortion but also their faith and what their fiath means to them.

Throughout this thread a number of people have been saying that this is erligion and shouldn't be brought into politics, BUT this is not a religious decision this is a LIFE DECISION which is supported by the Catholic Church. I have been pro-life my whole life and see no place in society for abortions. Having an abortion IS murder of an innocent child and there is very very few occasions in which abortion should be connsidered but even then I feel it is wrong. It's quite ironic that the government allows abortions but doesn't allow euthanasia which are one in the same really if you look at it in detail.

Nice to see some honestly held views for a change.

Euthanasia's about 'murdering' a living human being. If a ten week old foetus is a living human being, we're in agreement. I endorse euthanasia and abortion in certain circumstances.
mortonjag 2007-06-01 10:09:25
QUOTE(shedhead @ Jun 1 2007, 10:02 AM) [snapback]282377[/snapback]
[attachment=2975:KeiraELL..._228x312.jpg]

Eh-that's a photie o' a wee skelf o' a lassie!

Nae nightie...nae keech... sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-01 10:13:05
QUOTE(Up the Ton @ Jun 1 2007, 10:02 AM) [snapback]282378[/snapback]
Brilliant it continues........
how many years is that now, keep saying it and it just might come true, well actually in your case, probably not.

Good luck in the first soapdodgers, I think you're probably candidates for the drop......

FFS can you only manage a decent 'slag' when you're oot yer face-when's the next 'hit'? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-01 10:15:15
QUOTE(Up the Ton @ Jun 1 2007, 10:01 AM) [snapback]282376[/snapback]
And here was me thinking this was a football forum, actual it's a morton site so what am I talking about blink.gif

Yer typin' clot. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-01 10:17:17
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 1 2007, 10:13 AM) [snapback]282384[/snapback]
I don't see why not, if the wearer pays to get in and behaves him(her)(IT'S)self. Why do you ask? unsure.gif

sorry for that edit!
mortonjag 2007-06-01 10:19:13 Do you lot never play Scrabble-Ludo even?
mortonjag 2007-06-01 10:22:29
QUOTE(Laura_w @ Jun 1 2007, 10:20 AM) [snapback]282389[/snapback]
Full-back Marc Twaddle and midfielder Ryan McStay have joined Stephen O'Donnell in rejecting a new contract at Falkirk. Three defenders - Karl Dodd, Tiago and the retired Craig Ireland - and keeper Jerome Lambers have also left.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...irk/6709059.stm

Are there any bargains to be picked up in that job lot?
mortonjag 2007-06-01 10:25:25
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Jun 1 2007, 10:22 AM) [snapback]282392[/snapback]
10:22 still nothing laugh.gif

Maybe his watch is slow! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-01 10:26:42
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jun 1 2007, 10:25 AM) [snapback]282393[/snapback]
Do you think the Cardinal's views are somewhat clouded by the fact that he's a gay?

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mortonjag 2007-06-01 10:47:02
QUOTE(BMC @ Jun 1 2007, 10:26 AM) [snapback]282395[/snapback]
Agree there, lets no forget that thousand of people live in poverty as well, its set up to victimise the poorest people in society, we should remember the two major players in scottish banking made £5billion profits last year, they make enough money investing our money in markets, stalling on our cheques and transfers etc without charging us for the privelage.

Its not just a clear cut case of not spending money you dont have all the time either, I had a standing order set up before to transfer money to another account, not having enough money to cover said order I cancelled it about 3 days in advance using the online facility, low and behold the money still came out anyway, bounced and I got hit with a £60 charge, complained at the bank to be told it take a few days to cancel online, and that if I had come into the branch theyd have done it immediatley, I said there was no warning of this online which was just simply disputed by the manager because he didn't want to refund me, so I followed dazza philosiphy and still got burned.

I'll give you an example from personal experience too BMC. Several years ago I had a mortgage with the R.B. of S. It included the option of a 'mortgage holiday' during which repayments were suspended, but you had to be 'up to date' and could only take one during the term of the mortgage.

The Abbey advertised a scheme which I fancied because you could take such 'holidays' much more flexibly, so I discussed this with the (then) manager of the R.B. of S. mortgage shop in Byres Rd., Glasgow. She assured me absolutely and unequivocally that my existing mortgage was 'flexible' and that I should not be put off by the small print. I very much regret that I ever trusted that woman, and stayed with that bank.

A year or so later I was admitted to hospital with a relatively long term illness. The future was uncertain, so I put my house on the market. I was self employed at the time, and had nothing remotely like my regular income during that period.

My brother wrote to the mortgage centre in good old Greenock-'Could I take a mortgage holiday again'?

NO, they said-I'd already had it.

He wrote again, explaining I was ill, that I'd been verbally assured I could, and that my house (with a large sum of equity tied in) was was on the market. He asked them to treat the situation with understanding.

NO, they said-I'd already had it, and they enclosed a copy of the original terms and conditions.

You know something, to this very day, every time I drive past that f*cking waterfront building, I could happily lob in a bomb-and I'm NOT a violent person.


f***ING b*****dS
mortonjag 2007-06-01 10:53:14
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 1 2007, 10:36 AM) [snapback]282400[/snapback]
Not a bad post MJ but somehow i dont think your post will take heid with anyone wink.gif

Only decent thing about June is that it comes with fathers day and also my birthday biggrin.gif

You think mortonjag DOESN'T know everything as well-I thought you were my friend-clearly you are correct! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-01 10:55:48
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jun 1 2007, 10:53 AM) [snapback]282407[/snapback]
He's saying if people managed their money correctly there'd never be any charges, which is correct.

These fees are designed to make money off the poor, I make poor people poorer every day and make rich people richer, thats life.

The simplicity of today's youth! rolleyes.gif

If people managed their money properly the f*ckin' rules would be changed overnight-grow up.
mortonjag 2007-06-01 11:05:06
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ May 31 2007, 06:43 PM) [snapback]282054[/snapback]
a close second, i said. i just think the indian lassie is a total ride, while the blonde seems a wee bit uninspiring. a tad dull.

Pokeahontas
mortonjag 2007-06-01 11:17:07
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jun 1 2007, 11:06 AM) [snapback]282416[/snapback]
I listen to s*** that people come up with as to why they shouldn't be charged for being late with their payments, and the simple fact of the matter is that you get 3 weeks to make a credit card payment from your statement date, and if you are late its your own fault, pay with bloody cash when you get your statement, and no hassle. Even simpler in this digital age click a f***ing button and its paid for you in 4 working days. Anyone who leaves things to direct debits are just leaving the banks with an easy way out.

You grow up, as you don't know what you are talking about, whereas I do, I deal with this s*** every bloody day and argue about it all day long. I have had an hour long argument with someone before about it, when they started yelling, and by the end of it she was apologising for being a moron...

Youth doesn't mean you don't know things, just because when you were a youth technology was a f***ing metal stick and a hoop.

ThornTON you're just a daft wee boy reading out of the rule book, and thinking it makes you SO knowledgeable.

Daft enough to admit you've got a vested interest in proving customers are eejits and the Banks are only there to help if they'd learn the errors of their ways.

As I said-IF customers started obeying you (and they won't 'cos they're human, which the banks know ONLY TOO WELL), the goalposts would rapidly shift to maintain the smile on shareholders' faces.
mortonjag 2007-06-01 11:22:00
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jun 1 2007, 11:17 AM) [snapback]282429[/snapback]
So you cancelled it 3 days in advance, online transactions take 4 working days. So you were at fault.

Ignorance is no defence.

Do you realise in that case that you are a big headed little boy with an overinflated sense of your societal value.

YES or NO.
mortonjag 2007-06-01 11:26:15
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 1 2007, 11:13 AM) [snapback]282425[/snapback]
He's entitled to his beliefs. Even if IMHO the whole basis on which he is employed is a load of superstitious nonsense.

Absolutely (that is, no more, and no less).
mortonjag 2007-06-01 11:37:54
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jun 1 2007, 11:23 AM) [snapback]282438[/snapback]
Reading out the rule book, and knowing the laws and T&C's of a banking contract are two different things.

Banks are there to make money, how naive are you if you think they give a f*** about how the customers truly feel? 99% of people need a bank account, so if you piss them off, they just go to another bank, and another will move in the opposite direction for the same reason. That's life.

Stick to your contract, you won't get charged, simple as that.

Upaclose summed it up pretty well.

You and Upaclose are correct, in stating the letter of the law. You'd both make excellent 'hanging judges'. (I chose that term in preference to Holy Willies).

Most of the posters are trying to discuss real life experiences. The rules prevent driving the wrong way on a one way street. You, young man, would be entitled to feel entirely secure driving in the proper direction. Play it by the rules and you won't get charged-or have an accident---aye right-until some drunken c*nt comes up the wrong way in a JCB.

Everything's so simple-in simple minds.

mortonjag 2007-06-01 11:38:53
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jun 1 2007, 11:33 AM) [snapback]282451[/snapback]
An overinflated sense of my societal value?

No, I don't any societal value as I pay hee-haw in tax, other than VAT, the only true "value" that keeps the country running.

Your response to this will answer my personal question, as to which "side" of the coin you are truly on.

the edge.
mortonjag 2007-06-01 11:43:06
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jun 1 2007, 11:30 AM) [snapback]282448[/snapback]
When I was young it was only poofs and lassies that called it the "belvy". It was always the Belvo.

When I was young it was big high tenements with a few gaps where the blitz had struck, and a bomb crater behind the back greens.
mortonjag 2007-06-01 11:47:13
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jun 1 2007, 11:44 AM) [snapback]282457[/snapback]
I wasn't talking about incidences where people have no control over the results. Of course these cases should be viewed on their merits and a bit of "humanity" used when deciding on the best way to take things forward.

I'm talking about the generation who think they dont have to think and let other people clean up their own mess. These self made "victims" get right on my tits.

edit to add : f*** off you old dick.

I very much 'give a f*ck either way'-YES literally too if you must!

I just think it's pointless to go on like a demented budgie spouting rules everybody can read for himself and crucifying anyone who doesn't self righteously adhere to them as you do.

Everybody knows that if 'alkies' and 'junkies' 'controlled' their behaviour they'd have no consequences to pay-it's in the physiological rule book. I'd say they are unable to do so, but there is still a strong and self righteous lobby who as you see bank clients, perceive them as morally degenerate scum.

What was it Jesus said about 'Whited sepulchres', or will that do a giraffe's baws on you?
mortonjag 2007-06-01 12:00:51
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 1 2007, 11:52 AM) [snapback]282466[/snapback]
Nothing changes! laugh.gif

Morton were bottom of the OLD second division! sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-01 12:03:21 12.03
mortonjag 2007-06-01 12:06:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 1 2007, 12:02 PM) [snapback]282473[/snapback]
How bad is that, compared to recent seasons?

They were a 'music hall joke' in the late fifties (when music halls still existed), and Cappielow was the worst mud bath in Scotland.
mortonjag 2007-06-01 12:08:12
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 1 2007, 12:05 PM) [snapback]282477[/snapback]
This is just to remind all Ton fans that you can now safely cast your cloots.

Trick-it means stick your winter clothes in the wardrobe!
mortonjag 2007-06-01 13:05:33
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jun 1 2007, 12:25 PM) [snapback]282489[/snapback]
I read that three times and I'm still not really sure what you are talking about.

I'm not self righteous, live and let live and all that. But;

If people aren't bothered enough to actively manage their finances then they shouldn't bleat about it when they f*** up. It's called being an adult.

and

When people make lifestyle choices that don't harm anyone other than themselves then that is not a problem in my book. When it starts to encroach on other peoples lives then it is. Simple. And don't give me that illness bulls***. The majority of addicts make the initial choice to take drugs with a clear unhindered mind (I'm not talking about children and the mentally ill here) and should be prepared for any consequences. It's called being an adult.

Many people who would love to 'actively manage their finances' yield to temptation-not particularly subtly foisted on them by the very banks you attempt to defend. Enter the world of reality.

You can argue that point if you like.

Your second assertion is deplorable in this enlightened age. An addict is an addict -not a user.

Addictive personalities are genetically determined, I agree that if they never took a solitary drink or joint they'd be fine, but again we're talking about the real world-not your world of 'holier than thou'.
mortonjag 2007-06-01 13:07:53
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jun 1 2007, 12:50 PM) [snapback]282507[/snapback]
Arrogance is a sense of self-importance, one can't show self-importance by purely stating the truth. rolleyes.gif

One certainly f*cking can as you repeatedly and unrepentantly demonstrate.
mortonjag 2007-06-01 13:12:40
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jun 1 2007, 01:06 PM) [snapback]282534[/snapback]
One needs to have a word with Mortonjag wink.gif

It's otherwise known as having learned from experience and stating fact to ignorant wee boys who think they know everything when they know very little.

Those who see it as useful information learn.

Those who see it as patronising are arrogant little c*nts who will have to learn the hard way, and may God ream it right up their self satisfied little arses with an almighty reaming.
mortonjag 2007-06-01 13:16:49
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jun 1 2007, 01:09 PM) [snapback]282537[/snapback]
First point - for "yield to temptation" read "weak mindedness"

Second point - I had no idea that there had been a proven link between genetics and addiction. Can you please post some links to the evidence? I'd really like to read them.

The actual gene for addictive personality has not been specifically identified.

The evidence for its existence is overwhelming-I take it you have studied the subject in depth and can produce papers to the contrary.

Do you have qualifications in the field?
mortonjag 2007-06-01 13:20:58
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jun 1 2007, 01:12 PM) [snapback]282544[/snapback]
Any fee would be inexcusable in your mind, so a random figure of £12 seems as just as say 10p, or £50.

Thornton BSc (Hons) wink.gif Not that that is relevant, just making a point rolleyes.gif

f***in' hell BSc (Hons) no less, and not two neurones to rub together

Mortonjag B. Sc., M.B., CH.B., M.A.(Hons) and a whole lot of wee tiddly ones too and not worth a f*ck to anybody unless you can think openly and logically.

GROW UP
mortonjag 2007-06-01 13:26:02
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 1 2007, 01:12 PM) [snapback]282541[/snapback]
FAO EdinTon: Please consider renaming this forum "Religious Pish and MortonJag's Fishing Forum"

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mortonjag 2007-06-01 13:29:50
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jun 1 2007, 01:22 PM) [snapback]282565[/snapback]
Oo, that's a bit better, but still not what I was hoping for.

Looking for a tuna, not a couple of fecking haddock.

ThornTON the board's wind up merchant par excellence-AYE RIGHT, you wee bottler!
mortonjag 2007-06-02 03:53:05
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 1 2007, 02:23 PM) [snapback]282625[/snapback]
I only know people in certain dpeartments, Medicine not being one of them. I also know people in R&E and the University Council. However, not the top honchos. In saying that they probably know me (and yes I am lying about the last bit.)

secy of ct. and a monkey wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-02 03:56:11
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 1 2007, 05:28 PM) [snapback]282713[/snapback]
Attainment/achievement. In the jargon they're two different things.

Achievement relates to things that are easily measured, reading age, spelling age, how good you are at hard sums.

Attainment is wider, including aspects of personal development. e.g. Developing the confidence to talk to the class, participation in sports, developing responsible attitudes to eating and the environment.

You are correct to note that the Ardgowan report is not good, the Inspectors have in the past slated schools with "good" results. Not unreasonably. A good catchment area can often mask poor teaching.

Just as a bad one stifles good.
mortonjag 2007-06-02 04:00:32
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 1 2007, 12:25 PM) [snapback]282490[/snapback]
Indeed.

Here is a recipe for a clootie dumpling where the piece of cloth into which the ingredients are put is called the 'cloot'.

http://www.almac.co.uk/personal/alastair/clootie.htm

So 'cloot' therefore is old Scots for a peice of cloth or linen, which in the case if 'casting the cloot' refers to a vest, and not winter clothes.

Cloth-or 'clothes'-most references prefer 'winter clothing'. The original word is not Scots BTW.
mortonjag 2007-06-02 04:05:25
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jun 1 2007, 01:32 PM) [snapback]282580[/snapback]
Those medical qualifications can't be worth much nowadays. You must have got them in the days when you achieved a pass for holding a leech the right way.

B.Sc., and M.A. are not medical qualifications, and I could never get the hang of those leeches-just as well the Dean's daughter was a sucker. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-02 04:14:33
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 2 2007, 12:11 AM) [snapback]282830[/snapback]
I started this thread as a query to the Cardinal O'Brien outburst on abortion .
Do the believers of Pro-life only apply to humans .
Are they against all wars and are advocates of pacifism .
Do they abstain from eating meat or at the very least make sure that the animals they do eat are not intensely farmed and if there is a phrase of humanily killed , do they ensure that this is the case .
discuss

I'd love to. rolleyes.gif

Honest --I would like to put in my tuppenceworth, but the zygote worshipping hegemony would make my life a misery-SO I WON'T . blink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-02 04:16:46
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 1 2007, 01:05 PM) [snapback]282529[/snapback]
Well he's just going to make a fool of himself and the Catholic Church.

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mortonjag 2007-06-02 04:17:47
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 1 2007, 01:10 PM) [snapback]282538[/snapback]
It really needs to adapt to modern life though.
Do you think Jesus would tell people exactly how they can have sex?

Missionary position-I'd guess.
mortonjag 2007-06-02 04:24:29
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 1 2007, 01:23 PM) [snapback]282566[/snapback]
We havent heard from the club on ANYTHING. This strip scenario is doing my nut in, and im sure our signings whenever they decide to crop up have everyone up in arms.

You heard it here first rolleyes.gif

OH dear-not more child minding. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-02 04:28:29
QUOTE(Up the Ton @ Jun 1 2007, 04:39 PM) [snapback]282684[/snapback]
Ferguslie's actually in the North end of the town but admittedly the West end aint the best, but by that can you admit that there isn't drug problems, poverty, deprived areas in Greenock ? Hows the Gibby these days, how's the Broomy ?
still nice in summer ?

Anyways the conversation isn't about football hence my previous post.

P & B for you smackhead-yer on the wrong site-f*ck off.
mortonjag 2007-06-02 04:32:09
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jun 1 2007, 05:47 PM) [snapback]282725[/snapback]
Shop is closed for refurbishment, but the Commercial Office is processing Season Ticket applications. dry.gif

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Six new mega bags of Millions, four key rings, two mini scarfs, and a gross of autographed photos of the Chairman smiling.
mortonjag 2007-06-02 04:33:40
QUOTE(gmfc_stinny_gmfc @ Jun 1 2007, 06:35 PM) [snapback]282741[/snapback]
he may sign a few young up and coming celtic players on loan next season... if they have players like McGowan wanting to go on loan then they may want to go to morton for a season .. what do you guys think ?

I think JM likes Celtic, and young players-I HOPE he's learned by his previous mistakes.
mortonjag 2007-06-02 04:39:39
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 2 2007, 01:00 AM) [snapback]282841[/snapback]
An opinion that is based on seeing every appearance he made since he returned to Cappielow.

He might get a few goals for Stirling Albion but he is a spent force. Lilley's game was based on his lightning pace, now it's gone I think he is done.

Lilley is my all time favourite Morton player so it's not a criticism I'd level without really thinking it.

On one thread you're saying JM knows what he's doing, and on this you say he signed a 'lemon'.
mortonjag 2007-06-02 04:46:07
QUOTE(Savo @ Jun 2 2007, 02:02 AM) [snapback]282843[/snapback]
Can't really muster up any malice towards John or Marco.

Marco was not a particularly talented player, to say the least, but he gave it his all when picked.

At the level we were at, John was more than equipped (ability-wise) to be a key man. Yes, he couldn't run fast but he could certainly see a pass and carried a genuine goal threat for us, both in the scoring and supply sense.

Initially he looked as if he would go on to do really well. Things then went awry and, for that period at least, he admittedly deserves a bit of stick. I suppose he then made his individual choices and ultimately ended up with the football career he deserved in return.

But that still shouldn't obliterate the fact that John, along with another former player who is also routinely harangued on this messagboard, were the pivotal figures in getting us out of Divison 3 a few years ago, whether you like it or not.

Correct, and if we get promotion to the SPL next year on the strength of a squad of degenerate off pitch trannies I'll be delighted.
mortonjag 2007-06-02 04:49:22
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Jun 1 2007, 01:50 PM) [snapback]282608[/snapback]
Not really surprised at Malpas being sacked, seems like a decent coach but too "nice" to be in charge at the top level.

Dougie-are you listening-another good coach who does what he's told.
mortonjag 2007-06-02 04:51:59
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jun 1 2007, 10:37 PM) [snapback]282811[/snapback]
His family will need it. He is a grumpy sod, even when on holiday. He was staying with his family at a hotel in Ballater at the same time as us a few years ago and not once did I see him crack a smile or even look remotely interested in anything or anyone the whole week. W@nk.

Did you go up and introduce yourself?

He does come over all grumpy tits, but don't judge a book an a' that!
mortonjag 2007-06-02 05:12:28
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 2 2007, 04:56 AM) [snapback]282863[/snapback]
I never said either.

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Are you on night shift, or just an early bird-I was just meaning you were defending JM for being patient with signings, while implying that Del's 'played out' within a year of being signed!
mortonjag 2007-06-02 05:34:54 Alcoholics, junkies, (and presumably addicted gamblers, chocoholics, compulsive cleaners, and so on) are just weak willed moral degenerates. They should have known better than to take that first drink, or that experimental 'puff', he claims.

I'd assume then that buying a lottery 'scratch card' is immoral, Dairy Milk consumption is wicked enough, but those SHARE bars mad.gif are the food of the devil, and as for bulk buyers of 'Mr Muscle'- they will no doubt sizzle in the infernal sausage pan.

The World Health Organisation would perhaps disagree, but according to 'Upaclose', it's all about being responsible adults-and..

DON'T GIVE HIM THAT ILLNESS BULLSH*T
mortonjag 2007-06-02 06:07:01 ...and in the Herald today..
It is now 30 days since Madeleine was SNATCHED FROM HER BED AS SHE SLEPT.

That-from what is arguably Scotland's most informed and responsible broadsheet.

EMOTIVE SPECULATION



Meanwhile in Knightswood yesterday they were releasing lots of bright yellow balloons into the air to 'help find the child'.

Balloons indeed! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-02 06:25:00 ...and it CHARGES customers for mistakes! laugh.gif

But then all it did was send a CD containing confidential customer data by 'normal' post.

The Post Office has repeatedly advised against this practice-the Bank knew the risk- and wacko.gif

What was that ThornTON et al-oh that's DIFFERENT is it?

Sounds like downright f*cking incompetence by the very parasites you defend to the hilt! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-02 06:49:45 Was crowned Queen of Great Britain etc., 54 years ago today. About a dozen of us were crowded into my Grandad's living room, watching the event on a wee black and white telly. Schoolchildren all got commemorative mugs and boxes of toffees with Betty's picture on them. Nobody seemed to mind!

Ironically, on the same date seven years previously, Italy had abolished the monarchy.

Somehow I can't see ours lasting for another 54 years!
mortonjag 2007-06-02 07:08:02
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 1 2007, 05:06 PM) [snapback]282703[/snapback]
I sliced my finger open on a sardine tin, can I claim compensation? huh.gif

Don't be daft-the sardines are deid.
mortonjag 2007-06-02 07:17:51 Now all is explained! laugh.gif

Me-I was too busy climbing down chimneys to supplement the family income-and when I got too big for that, I graduated to a milk round-then a paper round, (with a bakery van round on Saturday morning-so I could afford Scapa). That, and being frogmarched in my little kilt to Church twice on a Sunday, and always wondering why my Mummy put more in that f*cking collection plate than I brought in all week, may be what turned me into a twisted and bitter old crone.
mortonjag 2007-06-02 07:25:20
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 2 2007, 07:18 AM) [snapback]282871[/snapback]
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. I'm not entirely convinced. dry.gif

If you go to the online Scots dictionary here:

http://www.scots-online.org/dictionary/search.asp

And type 'cloot' into the Scots-English translator it comes up with "a piece of cloth, a rag, dischcloth, duster.....".

Some other dictionaries also describe 'cloot' as the devil, or a 'cloven hoof' on an animal. But irrespective of the meaning the word itself is almost always referred to as Scots in origin.

That's right, but 'cloot', the Scots word apparently came from a 15th century English word - 'clowt' -meaning cloth or clothing.

Ne'er cast a cloot-NOT ne'er cast 'yer' cloot.

At any rate I was always told it referred to winter garments rather than just yer Rab C Nesbitt!
mortonjag 2007-06-02 07:36:34
QUOTE(alexp @ Jun 1 2007, 11:41 PM) [snapback]282819[/snapback]
sure just cause its creative i guess
farsley celtic

carfin amateur
mortonjag 2007-06-02 07:48:59 This reminds me so much of the 'post-Killie match' hounding of Jim Jefferies-'We humped you--go on--admit it--we humped you--ad f*cking infinitum.

So Bliar was ungracious and the Brown nose was 'in a poke'. Big F'in deal.

And MORE s***E about Bawheid's unprecedented purity and morality in politics.

They're all scumbags as far as I'm concerned.
mortonjag 2007-06-02 07:55:48
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Jun 1 2007, 05:40 PM) [snapback]282723[/snapback]
Agreed biggrin.gif

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mortonjag 2007-06-02 08:03:57
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 2 2007, 12:23 AM) [snapback]282835[/snapback]
We have young players at the club Gilbride , Black . Philips who are showing improvement but how can these guys get the experience when they have played too few games because of last seasons limited reserve fixtures . Will we even enter a reserve team ?
By the time you pay compensation for a young player would that not balance the higher wage of a seasoned pro .
This season we have too many unanswered questions about the players in our squad . To add another unknown quantity IMO would be a risky strategy .

Every time I read your signature, I'm convinced very few others do! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-02 08:06:56
QUOTE(Up the Ton @ Jun 1 2007, 03:24 PM) [snapback]282654[/snapback]
Just one of the reasons its a s***e forum

You must feel SO welcome
mortonjag 2007-06-02 08:34:04
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 2 2007, 08:22 AM) [snapback]282881[/snapback]
When the manager and in the past the chairman has came out and told us of players they are targeting and they have failed to deliver for what ever reason it has just acted as platform for fans to question Morton terms/deals on offer and wage structures compared to other clubs, it also alerts other clubs to the fact that we are in for them. I agree with Mortons approach, say nothing till its done and dusted.
Take the Hinchcliffe thing, it was announce we were chasing him but when he signs for Partick we get fans questioning why we could not get him, the truth of that was he was never coming to Morton, he said as much we he said when there is a few offers on the table I will be making my decision with the St Mirren fans in mind due to his respect for them.

I agree, but I've given up on GMFC.net

We are treated like children-Daddy knows best, and don't ask questions. I just checked-the Chairman hasn't posted for over a month.

Just one hint of an attempt to acknowledge the fans hopes, dreams, and expectations would help, but as usual ZILCH.
mortonjag 2007-06-02 08:52:27
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 2 2007, 08:40 AM) [snapback]282886[/snapback]
I think the problem with the website and the commercial side stems from the fact they club have very few people doing many jobs and whilst they are more than capable of doing them everything they propose has to be checked and double checked by the chairman, yes its good he takes an interest and he wants to be part of it all but he must allow people to get on with there jobs, if he has given them a position then he must trust them to make the decisions.

That's a polite way of saying that Dougie's turning into a hindrance in many aspects of the club's progress.

I don't believe that 'til the day he's in his own 'golden' casket he'll ever be capable of true delegation, and if the rest of the board and staff are as gumptionless as they seem to be, there's no revolution in prospect. JM will undoubtedly be asked for his 'opinions' about signings!
mortonjag 2007-06-02 08:54:49
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 1 2007, 01:31 PM) [snapback]282579[/snapback]
Does his heid look like a metallic sheet?

Watch it or CLAYMORE C0CK will administer his very own form of punishment!
mortonjag 2007-06-02 08:58:50
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jun 2 2007, 08:54 AM) [snapback]282888[/snapback]
I bet your one of these miserable old swines that shouts at the local weans just for banging your door, letting your tyres down, rampaging through your garden or nicking your milk off your doorstep.

children just aren't allowed to have fun these days. sad.gif tongue.gif smile.gif

rolleyes.gif If only beermonkey, IF only.

It's probably impossible to say what I'm about to in a universally acceptable way-maybe Edinton's first test-but at least 75% of the kids around here haven't a clue about traditional Scottish pranks. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-02 09:01:36
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 2 2007, 08:55 AM) [snapback]282890[/snapback]
Although no one is doubting Dougie's commitment and passion for the club I don't think he is turning into a hindrance, I think he has always been a hindrance. laugh.gif

There WAS that erm money!!! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-02 09:13:00
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jun 2 2007, 09:02 AM) [snapback]282893[/snapback]
Don't forget cycling down hills at high speed with no hands, i did this down the bow road hill once (past the cemetry) and of course, made a proper cvnt of it and came off, how i didn't end up with any more than cuts & bruises is beyond me, my grifter took a hell of a battering though. laugh.gif laugh.gif

It never detered me of course, and a few days later was back over there doing the same thing, brave or stupid ? i dont know ! cool.gif

I think all boys enjoyed a phase of cycling with 'no hands'.

One of my neighbours once reported me to my Maw for that, and I got my arse tanned-funny kind of upbringing we had, come to think of it.

My brother and I managed to break one of the school dinner hall windows with a football. Good honest kids as we were, we went straight round to Lamby's (the Headie's) house and told him. He couldn't have been nicer and praised our decency. The following week our Maw called us through to the living room. That old CVNT had sent her the glazier's bill-and we were pretty poor in those days.

Arses tanned again-it didn't take us that long to learn that honesty rarely paid!
mortonjag 2007-06-02 09:29:04
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 2 2007, 09:10 AM) [snapback]282895[/snapback]
My answers to your questions would be Yes it is and No, it doesn't. The Pro-Life Christian movement is, to the best of my knowledge, not necessarily anti-war or pacifist by belief, although some among them might be. Pro-Life extremists in the US who have murdered Doctors and bombed abortion clinics certainly wouldn't qualify as pacifist.
I think that most Christians do no not believe that the 'all life is sacred' concept extends to animals. They believe that God has given humanity dominion over other animals. Animals don't have immortal souls they reckon, so it's Ok to kill and eat them. I haven't met a practising Christian who is either vegetarian or vegan, yet there must be be one or two of them out there that are, I'm sure.
Like the Pro-Life movement, there are extremists in the Animal Rights movement who aren't too bothered about the rights of some human animals, especially those who work in animal testing labs. You can find double standards everywhere it seems.
As far as I'm concerned, convenience abortion on demand is an outrage that shames our society. Abortion should, in my view, only be sanctioned in certain circumstances such as: proven unviability, proven threat to the life of the mother, rape or incest. I also think that intensive factory farming of sentient beings is a barbarously cruel holocaust that, in terms of the scale of suffering at least, shames our society even more.

As specified in the current Abortion Laws.

'Fraid I have to put in a plug for those who may bury their mistakes DE. There is little wrong with the actual legislation IMO, and many doctors adhere as conscientiously to that as possible. Others have bowed far too willingly to an extremely outspoken and demanding 'it's my body and I can do what I like' lobby.

Ladies, you'd do well to keep your mouths shut on issues you don't understand, and if you'd kept your legs shut in the first place---- wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-02 09:41:18
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jun 2 2007, 09:23 AM) [snapback]282903[/snapback]
I dont see addiction as an illness either, people can control what they eat/drink/smoke/inject/spend & clean so how can that be classed as an illness ? unsure.gif

For the simple reason that despite many (by no means all) alcoholics, drug abusers, compulsive gamblers etc., REALISING AND ACCEPTING that their behaviour is 'destroying' themselves and others, they are psychologically, and sometimes physiologically, powerless over the addiction-a point is reached where lives are totally unmanageable.

It's generally agreed that addictive personalities have a strong genetic component-there is probably one solitary gene, and some researchers have come pretty near to its identification.

Meanwhile the WHO recognises established 'substance abuse' (a generic term for anything from alcoholism to glue sniffing), as a treatable illness, and as such, it comes under the umbrella of the 'Disability Discrimination Act'.

Long winded-I apologise, but I'm afraid that's the state of play at the moment.
mortonjag 2007-06-02 09:48:44
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 2 2007, 09:43 AM) [snapback]282924[/snapback]
Take a length of string and tie two door knobs together across the stair landing. Chap both doors, wait, laugh like feck when you see the tugging doors, then run like feck when the string breaks.
Can't remember if that game had a name, but it sure was fun for me.

Ringing the old lady downstairs' doorbell and running away laughing. Bad wee b*****ds.
mortonjag 2007-06-02 09:50:48
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 2 2007, 09:11 AM) [snapback]282896[/snapback]
What money? blink.gif
laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2007-06-02 09:52:17
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 2 2007, 09:48 AM) [snapback]282929[/snapback]
not before getting well-tanked up in a george hotel lock-in at inveraray.

...and muggin' a tinker for the bus fare back..
mortonjag 2007-06-02 14:59:16
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 2 2007, 10:18 AM) [snapback]282942[/snapback]
There are stats on school secondary school achievement which compare poverty indicators such as free school meal entitlement with exam results. What they show is that schools with similar catchment areas can have very different exam results. A properly run school can make a considerable difference.

Needless to say the stats are not released to the general public. mad.gif

There are stats on just about everything Mr Trollbuster. The fact is that the 'headies' of schools in 'bad' catchment areas receive public accolade when 'good' results are achieved.
mortonjag 2007-06-02 15:00:32
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 2 2007, 10:34 AM) [snapback]282948[/snapback]
Ask Father McNeil laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2007-06-03 05:39:23 I started a thread yesterday in which I described Upaclose as the Board's 'Unlikely Puritan'.

I was expecting some healty debate and opinion on the aetiology of addictive personality.

WTFH? mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-03 05:46:52
QUOTE(dazza @ Jun 2 2007, 03:07 PM) [snapback]283068[/snapback]
I would happilly donate money on an annual basis, and im sure most of the posters on here would aswell.

I would never happily donate money to a forum on which my views are liable to be misrepresented and deleted at the whim of the 'chip on the shoulder hegemony'.

Having said that I'll continue to 'bang in' my honest tuppenceworth free of charge.
mortonjag 2007-06-03 05:53:06
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 2 2007, 10:35 PM) [snapback]283225[/snapback]
Aye- but that's not the whole story.
The headies ( and headesses) of poor schools in good areas stay in place 'til they retire. mad.gif
shielded by OK results when the weans should be achieving great results.

Also p1sh teachers, doctors and others stay and place whilst collecting their inflation proof pensions at the end o' a p1sh career. sad.gif

I'd suggest you do your homework on the 'doctor' assertion Mr Bam. Accountability (at least in General Practice) is now making it tiresomely difficult to do a good job. Red tape and the production of misleading 'performance' statistics in return for fees has done patients little good if any, but at least 'bad' G.P. are being financially walloped.
mortonjag 2007-06-03 06:02:32
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 3 2007, 01:42 AM) [snapback]283333[/snapback]
I'm sick and tired of monarchs, flags, salutes and anthems. I do want self governance for our nation, but I don't want any of the jingoistic trappings that may go along with it.
Wouldn't it be great if Scotland could show the World something new in the form of a truly egalitarian democracy? Something that the Americans or the French pretended to achieve but didn't. A democracy that extends beyond a parliament and directly involves communities and workplaces. Democratic government for the people, of the people, but most importantly of all, by the people.
You may say I'm a dreamer..... biggrin.gif

Imagine that DE-I'm with you It's just a case of whether or not we send a hit squad to Bucky Hoose right now, or patiently await her Majestic clog popping.
mortonjag 2007-06-03 06:07:14 FFS BH I've started a new thread-did the one about addiction evolve into the usual religious 'wee boy wanks off while winding up imaginary 'bigots' fest?

I wasn't on the forum from lunch time yesterday 'til now-WTF!!! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-03 06:10:22
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 2 2007, 11:55 PM) [snapback]283254[/snapback]
Pretty sure his parish priest will get jealous tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2007-06-03 06:15:06
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 2 2007, 11:05 PM) [snapback]283240[/snapback]
Don't dare try a Strach attack , remember we have the Parkhead mafia on here . mad.gif

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mortonjag 2007-06-03 06:21:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 3 2007, 06:08 AM) [snapback]283367[/snapback]
patiently await her Majestic clog popping.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Gidday mortonjag,

she'll live to the same age that her mother was, just to p1ss off Charlie and Camilla.

biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Camilla-The Horse Queen who Never Was.
mortonjag 2007-06-03 06:34:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 3 2007, 06:10 AM) [snapback]283369[/snapback]
that's regime change for you.

laugh.gif laugh.gif

I wasn't on the board -what happened to the thread-I already have a list of prime suspects!

BTW Edinton's a pretty reasonable guy IMO.
mortonjag 2007-06-03 06:39:33
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 3 2007, 06:17 AM) [snapback]283371[/snapback]
I wasn't on the forum from lunch time yesterday 'til now-WTF!!!

Part timer

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Wot do you expect, mortonjag ... things move quickly in the days of cyberspace.

biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Aye-but at least records should be kept-do you KNOW what happened. I've been repeatedly accused of starting 'religious' threads with some evil motive, when all I've done is cited the 'Headline News' of the day.

Now, when I start a thread on a topic which touches in some way on almost every posters life-Addiction-it's whoooooooooooooosh! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-03 06:45:54
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 2 2007, 01:35 PM) [snapback]283010[/snapback]
ayr 4-0 at home and that game you reminded me off are the worst 2 the are no other truely bad games.

Bryan-I think you're losin' yer marbles Son.

Mind you it's down to opinion-what's 'good, and 'bad'.

I've only seen the Ton play maybe nine or ten really entertaining games under JM. Mostly it was the dreary, frustrating grind which he predicted himself...and BAD games aplenty-I'm spoiled for choice.
mortonjag 2007-06-03 06:50:50
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 2 2007, 01:52 PM) [snapback]283024[/snapback]
Neither, I'm a bit of an insomniac.

I wouldn't say Del's played out within a year. I think he was done before he even signed for us. In fact I had my doubts over him after watching his debut in the friendly away at Northwich.

I do think it is a good thing Jim is being patient. Also, I think most managers would have signed Lilley and I expect the chairman had a hand in signing him as well so I wouldn't be too critical of Jim for signing him. Every manager makes a few mistakes in the transfer market.

I've got a seam for 'sleepers'!!


I think you've got a point, but I still believe that his biggest mistake was McGowan-NOT taking him, but trying to make him fit in where he didn't. He's not a striker in the true sense, and never will be. He should have been in competition with Midge, Jamie, and Jimbo to play behing guys capable of taking their chances.
mortonjag 2007-06-03 06:55:35
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 2 2007, 02:58 PM) [snapback]283063[/snapback]
I could be wrong and JM could pick up a future star . However the strategy is risky and I know I would be more confident if the signings we make are of a recognised standard which will instantly improve the strength of the squad .
I kmow people are looking at what we did last season as a benchmark but we were out thought by a weaker Stirling team . Then we will face teams who are also full time .
I fear that in some games against the so called weaker opposition they will out muscle us in midfield , especially during the winter months when it is simple a struggle to play football .

We'd be far better off with two or three seasoned journeymen than gambling on weans again-it seems so bloody obvious to me Chrissiboi-is it SO difficult for those who are SUPPOSED to know what they're doing?
mortonjag 2007-06-03 06:59:51
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 2 2007, 07:20 PM) [snapback]283173[/snapback]
Morton own the car park and it was to do with the disabled ramp.

DE caught swapping porny photies wi' Alibi, and has the cheek to attempt a cover up! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-03 07:03:50
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 3 2007, 01:36 AM) [snapback]283332[/snapback]
Don't we have Deano who could fill the same position?

Deano and Marco have much in common-JM was always obsessed with playing 'footballers' though. In terms of effectiveness Keenan more than passed muster WHEN he got a chance.
mortonjag 2007-06-03 07:05:38
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 2 2007, 01:38 PM) [snapback]283012[/snapback]
nearly 21 and it was a 3 year course tongue.gif

...at a REAL Uni Bryan? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-03 07:10:14
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jun 2 2007, 04:08 PM) [snapback]283091[/snapback]
It's time people realised that doogie is and always has been a nightmare (originally used a stronger word but thought better). I don't doubt for a second he's ton man through and through and I totally thank, and respect him for saving the club, but cmon guys its time to move on. he's been living on that for years, he interferes with the team affairs far too much and his running of the club (commercial, press, relationship with fans etc) is poor in comparison with other clubs similar to ours. sooner or later he will be found out

That's already happened Blue, but how 'sooner or later' will he depart the mortal stage is the pertinent question I guess.
mortonjag 2007-06-03 07:13:28
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 2 2007, 05:07 PM) [snapback]283114[/snapback]
No, I don't mean an amalgamation or an 'alliance' between the two sites, I mean some sort of bond between the club and this messageboard. And by that I don't mean moderation or filtering of content, I mean perhaps the club using this board as an area to alert us to news items on the official website, or to promote commercial activity on gmfc.net for example, or perhaps having their own area on this board to answer questions from members etc. The official St. Mirren board has a 'Q&A with the club' area and it has proved quite successful. They are in a unique position in Scotland however, as they have both an official and various unofficial fan forums, blackandwhitearmy.com being the most popular, which we are not. If this messageboard is the voice of Morton fans - why isn't the club listening?



I disagree, however I do think they dislike this messageboard because of the type of content/discussion that appears, coupled with the levels of negativity that exist from time to time.

Now don't get me wrong, i'm not saying 'lets only say nice things about the club' and 'no controversy please, we're Morton fans', but i'm curious to see if there's a happy medium that can be reached that satisifies all (well, most...) parties.

Spoken like a true mediator. They f*ckin' hate us when we tell the truth!
mortonjag 2007-06-03 07:23:57 I haven't seen any official announcement to the effect that he's an alcoholic. If he is, that highlights the validity of my thread on the other forum which was deleted yesterday for reasons which have still to be explained to me. Still a taboo subject when it should not be.

Alcoholism IS an illness, an uncurable one at that, but it's possible to live sober for the rest of ones life despite being affected.

For what it's worth alcoholics are just normal people with an illness, and taking the illness element out, I regarded Ro as a complete Dick off the pitch. Irrespective, I sincerely hope he deals well with whatever is the underlying problem.
mortonjag 2007-06-03 07:28:36
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 3 2007, 07:07 AM) [snapback]283385[/snapback]
Comprehensive and concise condemnation of a large swathe of humanity, all in one line and covering devil worshipping, eating the pink oboe and alliterations to split arses.

I'm impressed. Well done hound, well done. Don't think you'll remember a thing about it, but well done !

TonInDublin

TiD-do YOU know why the thread disappeared?
mortonjag 2007-06-03 07:56:11
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 3 2007, 07:07 AM) [snapback]283385[/snapback]
Comprehensive and concise condemnation of a large swathe of humanity, all in one line and covering devil worshipping, eating the pink oboe and alliterations to split arses.

I'm impressed. Well done hound, well done. Don't think you'll remember a thing about it, but well done !

TonInDublin

Are you implying that BH is an alcoholic? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-03 08:04:06
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 3 2007, 07:56 AM) [snapback]283394[/snapback]
MJ, I don't me 'oul flower.

Not sure which threads manky is referring to, if you mean your thread yesterday intimating that upaclose was a homo (well I think you said something like the last bastion of puritanism but I know what you meant), then I'm assuming it's because the new admin felt it was a personal attack or had the chance of growing legs in a direction he didn't like. At the time it was pulled the only offensive bit you could have taken from it was your initial swing at upaclose, which in my very humble opinion, was really tame.

Think it's a case of wait and see how the new broom sweeps and all that, but in all honesty it's not been a great start so far. In footballing analogies, let's see how things go when the pre season friendlies are done, the posturing is complete and the job starts in earnest ! Also lets hope that when all of that is complete the manager is still in charge or there's a team to take care of. I'd be worrying more about the latter than the former unfortunately.

Sorry I couldn't be more helpful partner.

TonInDublin

You've got me more confused than ever TiD, but TY.

The thread was simply headed 'Upaclose-the Board's unlikely Puritan', to introduce a debate on 'Alcoholism-weak will, or illness'. I made that clear by quoting him-'Don't give me that illness bulls***', AND the term PURITAN was used in its correct sense-'narrow minded bible thumper type'.
I don't even know if he was serious or 'at the wind up' and it doesn't matter a jot. The last time I posted I gave a balanced answer to a poster who said he couldn't see how it was an 'illness'.

We can rant on all day about bands, playstation games, Telly programmes, and all manner of trinketry, but I start a serious thread on an extremely serious subject, and gone.

SURELY it wasn't on the basis of the thread itself and MY input? I'll await an answer, but if it was there's more than one psychological illness on the go!
mortonjag 2007-06-03 08:09:41
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 3 2007, 08:05 AM) [snapback]283396[/snapback]
Not at all Iain, an alcoholic is someone with a drinking problem. Boozie, not unlike a lot of us, just gets completely rat arsed every now and again, falls in the door at an ungodly hour and then hurls abuse on this board, as is his want, and apologises for it a few hours later - no problem !!!!

As a fuly paid up member of The Fear club myself, I empathise with him, I really do.
Many's the time I logged on with trepidation to see the carnage of the previous night's shenanigans.

Never pretty.

TonInDublin

I'm so glad to hear he's entirely normal.

Not one of the weak willed degenerates then! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-03 08:19:43
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jun 3 2007, 02:33 AM) [snapback]283342[/snapback]
i made a post on a very sensible discussion , I came here to see if there was any follow-up and its gone ; the mind boggles ?

And what was wrong with the thread on the main forum where someone was asking McInally to get his finger out ? Next youll be wanting swearing banned in the cowshed.

TY WDE-will somebody put me out of my misery? rolleyes.gif

TiD's suggested it was deleted because I was saying 'naughty things', but the last time I posted, it seemed to be developing into a genuine 'Addictive personality' debate, as I had intended.
mortonjag 2007-06-03 08:24:47
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 3 2007, 08:20 AM) [snapback]283406[/snapback]
Not at all. The Crowns were united in 1606(?) For over a hundred yearsScotland and England were seperate countries with One monarch. The Act of Union was 1707. Revoking the act of union would have no effect of the united crown.
Indeed. Was much touched to se him with Her Majesty, God Bless Her.
Surely Frankie would go to Holyrood? unsure.gif

...probably, claiming somebody 'stole his Scone'.
mortonjag 2007-06-03 08:31:18
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 3 2007, 08:23 AM) [snapback]283407[/snapback]
There are defo Inadequate teachers, does your use of the 'bad' indicate that in your opinion that are NO inadequate doctors? unsure.gif

For me, professional inadequacy is good for nothing-BAD.

If, however, you wish to trichosect, inadequacy does not always go hand in hand with evil. Shipman, by all accounts, was a competent practitioner.

P.S. don't look up 'trichosect' -it's my word! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-03 08:33:35
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 3 2007, 08:30 AM) [snapback]283413[/snapback]
Just for completeness lads - I have no idea why it was pulled. All I said was at the time it was pulled the only thing you could have picked at was the initial "upaclose is the bastion of puritanism" or whatever way MJ worded it.

In my opinion his initial comments, and the subsequent follow ups were tame beyond belief.

There was nothing naughty about the thread at all.

TonInDublin

unsure.gif which begs the question! huh.gif

Maybe, like the rookie barmaid, who pulled the wrong kn*b and got Stout, somebody just pressed the wrong button!
mortonjag 2007-06-03 08:38:22
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 3 2007, 08:27 AM) [snapback]283411[/snapback]
Mortonjag as the class sook and clype. laugh.gif

NEVER Mr Bam-I was stating an honestly held opinion-one which is still held, and hopefully will remain so when this mystery is explained.
mortonjag 2007-06-03 08:40:03
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 3 2007, 08:23 AM) [snapback]283408[/snapback]
An American has broken the world record for hot dog eating, smashing the old record held by a Japanese man by nearly six wieners.

Joe Chestnut, 22, of San Jose, California, shattered the record held by Takeru Kobayashi of Japan by downing 59-and-a-half hot dogs and buns during the Southwest Regional Hot Dog Eating Championship at the Arizona Mills Mall in Phoenix.

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/American-...0809316089.html

...meanwhile in Eritrea...
mortonjag 2007-06-03 08:46:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 3 2007, 08:43 AM) [snapback]283419[/snapback]
mystery ???
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that's a bit much, mortonjag.

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The mystery of the disappearing thread (Tealeaf in the Tailor's), will remain a mystery to me until it is adequately explained.
mortonjag 2007-06-03 08:51:25
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 3 2007, 08:12 AM) [snapback]283402[/snapback]
Surely it's a disease ? tongue.gif laugh.gif

TonInDublin

But there again...
mortonjag 2007-06-03 08:53:34
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 3 2007, 08:48 AM) [snapback]283422[/snapback]
It's a bit like hide the thimble.
Ok it's not. blink.gif

You had me in stitches! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-03 09:01:31
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 3 2007, 09:00 AM) [snapback]283425[/snapback]
aw come on - it's only a thread.

don't let anyone needle you.

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Ahem-it seams much more serious too me!

My opinion may not sutures, but eye won't have folk spinning yarns about my intentions.
mortonjag 2007-06-03 09:12:23
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 3 2007, 09:07 AM) [snapback]283428[/snapback]
Perhaps EdinTon has a different measure ?

He doesn't use his twelve inch tadger as a rule.
mortonjag 2007-06-03 09:14:17
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 3 2007, 09:01 AM) [snapback]283426[/snapback]
Would have replied earlier but I was doing a bit knitting and dropped a stitch, by the the time it hit the board eh I mean floor it was gone. blink.gif

Who holds your balls to stop the cat playing with them?
mortonjag 2007-06-03 10:07:42
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 3 2007, 09:34 AM) [snapback]283432[/snapback]
Thats the beauty of this wundaweb.

Some crochety bod's cottoned on incorrectly eye guess.
mortonjag 2007-06-03 10:11:49
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 3 2007, 09:57 AM) [snapback]283438[/snapback]
Aha, I haven't been to that part of La belle France. I can imagine that the Ton hooped jersey might be complimented with a string of onions worn round the neck.

...and 'Greacen' tattooed on Modestine's arse! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-03 10:17:41
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 3 2007, 09:49 AM) [snapback]283437[/snapback]
I never could figure out the egg chasing game. I mean, what are these scrummages all about? They all gather in a huddle with their heads up their teammates' sphincters, and then they try and find the ball with their feet.
Ach well, each to his own I suppose. biggrin.gif

That's fingers-the heads go between or outside the respective arses.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 04:09:31
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jun 3 2007, 12:02 PM) [snapback]283476[/snapback]
So what was wrong with the addiction, illness or not ? thread

But who really deleted the thread?

Poor Edinton states correctly it's a difficult job-ask Nach0, who's reportedly had a wee smile once or twice of late! laugh.gif

Edinton has graciously backed down-a welcome novelty, I'd suggest, but could his mind have been influenced by a more sinister force-some evil alcohol abhorring subversive sect-

POSTERS



BEWARE HIDDENAH JENDAH
mortonjag 2007-06-04 04:15:05
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 2 2007, 11:05 PM) [snapback]283240[/snapback]
Don't dare try a Strach attack , remember we have the Parkhead mafia on here . mad.gif

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mortonjag 2007-06-04 04:15:42
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 2 2007, 11:07 PM) [snapback]283243[/snapback]
Ive not seen the mob for ages: are they off to watch an Ireland game or something?

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mortonjag 2007-06-04 04:16:27
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 2 2007, 11:50 PM) [snapback]283249[/snapback]
Repentance or another repeat laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2007-06-04 04:19:04
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 3 2007, 01:01 PM) [snapback]283497[/snapback]
It is an excellent question. Beware any fooker who is CERTAIN of their rightness. I've said before that certainty builds gulags and concentration camps.
So to be specific debate will always continue as to the interpretation of "Thou shalt not kill". It's worth remembering that Christ came to bring a new law. Love they neighbour as thyself. Feckin' difficult at times. Especially wie ginger trolls.

To go back to the cardinal's point. It is bloody difficult to see how any labour MP can remain a communicant Catholic whilst following the party line on abortion.

AND TALKS OF 'TOO MUCH CONTROVERSY FOR CONTROVERSY'S SAKE'.

Can one indeed have too much of a good thing? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-04 04:22:37
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 3 2007, 02:15 PM) [snapback]283531[/snapback]
you gingerist c***. shut it!

poor mr mcb. you painted him into a corner there. i don't think it's fair to use reason with religionists. it's almost like cheating.

here's a question for the god-botherers. do you believe that a soul inhabits the egg at the moment of fusion with the sperm, when the child is born or sometime in between? does this affect the morality of abortion, like would it be alright to terminate a collection of cells before the soul inhabits it?

Are you SERIOUSLY suggesting a zygote has no soul?

SHAME wacko.gif on you Sir.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 04:30:03
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 3 2007, 06:15 PM) [snapback]283611[/snapback]
It's bash a taig Day today. Reminds me of Follow Follow before it got quiet. wink.gif

Manky Sir, one last thought, Edwards might, just might best me in debate but the idea that the rumplestiltskin could!

Ah'm away to consult wie Messrs Sue, Grabbitte and Runne over that one. mad.gif

FFS-just like me to miss the boat! Spent my Sunday at Hadrian A. Hamster's graveside. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-04 04:40:26 Booze seems acceptable on shirts, but fags are not! wink.gif

How about DDFR venturing into a universally acceptable area-health promotion-let our shirts proudly bear the emblem



DUREX
mortonjag 2007-06-04 04:49:13 IF

...in the fullness of time, it were to transpire that the child had been the victim of her parents-no more-no less- the sheep like stupidity of humanity would yet again come into full focus.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 05:15:05
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 3 2007, 11:46 PM) [snapback]283799[/snapback]
I don't have any statistics to hand, but I'd be surprised if most people wanted to end their addictions. Factoring in the people who are not self-confessed addicts (either because they simply don't know, or because they are in denial), along with people who are quite happy being functional or dysfunctional addicts (I know a couple of the former and have met one of the latter) and I think if there is a majority that wants to quit, it's a very slim one.

Basically, some functional addicts are quite happy with their addiction.

I imagine that anyone who enjoys a potentially addictive pursuit-sex, chocolate, cleaning, and cyberspacemanship spring to mind-is unlikely to 'want to' give it up.

Many 'addictive' habits do not impinge much on relatives, friends, and society in general.

Furthermore, it's commonly acknowledged among those who work in the 'addictions' field, that treatment is impossible until the addiction is 'accepted' by the sufferer as a problem-if not an illness.

One of the largest stumbling blocks to 'acceptance', is social pressure. It's not 'cool' to be an 'Alkie', or 'Junkie'-fair enough, but those who continue to label folk who are ill as 'weak willed', lacking 'moral fibre' or choosing to abandon self control, are, in this enlightened age simply misinformed.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 05:21:26 If PRIVATE Matters were exposed on a GENERAL Nonsense forum, that might be a MAJOR Disaster.

Controversy makes the world go round they say, but I know only too well it's flat.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 05:24:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 4 2007, 01:53 AM) [snapback]283834[/snapback]
I played rugby for a few years when I worked down south . A great game to play . Some of the gamesmanship involved was brilliant . I knew one boy who ate loads of garlic on a Friday night and he absolutely reeked of the stuff on a Saturday . There was an art to playing in the front row.

Plenty of nipping , pullling the hairs from your oxsters , even the odd punch up . Always had a nice drink with the opposition except when it came to the bigger clubs who had that air of snobbery .

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Is Chrissiboi confessing to pulling the hairs of a hooker ?

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TOO CONTROVERSIAL
mortonjag 2007-06-04 05:26:35
QUOTE(Jackie @ Jun 4 2007, 01:55 AM) [snapback]283835[/snapback]
Only fifty odd views. Pathetic!

Perhaps if I bring some sort of religious debate into this, it'll get some sort of response seeing as that's the way the boards going these days.

Both sites make a wee noise every time you click-is it only counted once?
mortonjag 2007-06-04 05:29:23
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 4 2007, 05:17 AM) [snapback]283871[/snapback]

his mind have been influenced by a more sinister force-some evil alcohol abhorring subversive sect-

Gidday mortonjag,

As long as Edinton was not criminally corrupted by a carefully cunning catholic cult.

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You are totally alliterate.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 05:33:14
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 4 2007, 05:25 AM) [snapback]283874[/snapback]
The Commission was informed that cleaning staff are not as a rule replaced during periods of leave. It was also given in evidence that equipment is unreliable and that on occasions the two cleaners have been forced to share the same vacuum cleaner; that once the hose on one cleaner kept falling out of the machine, and on another the hose was split and had to be repaired with Durex tape.
Giiday mortonjag,

What is the connection between DDFR and Durex tape ?

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http://www.tic.tas.gov.au/decisions_issued...rinter_friendly

DUREX FEATHERLITE


then!!! laugh.gif

...though someone of 'Midge's proportions might have trouble getting that on.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 05:35:29
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 3 2007, 02:59 PM) [snapback]283550[/snapback]
bad is getting gubbed

laugh.gif I agree-getting gubbed IS bad!
mortonjag 2007-06-04 05:41:28
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 3 2007, 11:15 AM) [snapback]283461[/snapback]
There's the truth and then there's the real truth. In fact what you refer to as being 'the truth' is the truth only from your perspective. Some statements are, de facto, the truth such as, for example, 'Andy McLaren is no longer a Morton player'. Other matters are put forward as the gospel truth including statements like 'Morton are badly run' or 'The chairman interferes too much with the team'. The former is simply a matter of opinion based on the observations of outsiders with no real idea of what goes on at Cappielow. With regard to the latter, unless Jim McInally or somebody very close to him comes out and says that the chairman interferes, such a statement is not the truth, merely conjecture (which might be the truth).

There is a vocal minority on this board for whom Douglas Rae and Jim McInally can do no right and it does not surprise that the club don't like it. I am not for suppression of free speech or anyone's right to put their point of view forward but I do think that the constant ill informed carping and criticism, mostly from people who have never been involved with professional football at any level, must become very wearing.

As I said, 'They f*ckin hate us when we tell the truth'.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 05:43:17
QUOTE(tigerjock @ Jun 3 2007, 04:35 PM) [snapback]283579[/snapback]
by the content of your post MJ you sound like someone who has been there.....ya fuucking old alkie steamer

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mortonjag 2007-06-04 05:47:55
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jun 3 2007, 08:27 PM) [snapback]283700[/snapback]
That it is, 7500 posts and finally something to agree on.
It's also possible to return to complete normality if you've been lucky enough not to have damaged yourself.
And you were doing so well...
That's a shame, I have to say I've been lucky enough to meet him a couple of times and thought he was a decent guy. Where/when did you two fall out?

From my own point of view Ro was an excellent pro, 100% for the jersey. Never shirked or hid despite some difficult times. Will always be remembered as a great Morton player.

I've made an arse of myself in public before Cawston-haven't you? I don't know Alexander personally, but have certainly seen him repeatedly behave like a total Dick, in public.

More sinned against than sinning-quite possibly! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-04 06:08:16
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 4 2007, 05:53 AM) [snapback]283883[/snapback]
Chrissiboi's concise confession clearly creates considerable controversy.

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Indeed:

Pulling the hairs of a hooker
Pulling a hooker's hairs
Rugger or shagger
Pubic or heid

Pulling?..... as in tugging, or hauling, or stretching, or plucking while
mugging big Colin or fetchingly f*cking?
mortonjag 2007-06-04 06:10:11 Data sheet for KY Jelly.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 06:15:02 Administrator (in general)

Social worker

University
mortonjag 2007-06-04 06:20:45 I was visiting one of my sons yesterday, and we got talking about 'old times'.

He is the one who wasn't too bright at school and had a 'chip on his shoulder' about that but he's done well in a non academic field.

His best pal at school was Mark, whom I knew really well-a likeable lad, and plainly 'not very bright'. Neither Mark nor my son went on to do 'Highers'.

Mark has just graduated from a certain University with a first class Honours degree.

What puzzles me--what is the real value of those pieces of paper in today's society?
mortonjag 2007-06-04 06:32:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 4 2007, 06:25 AM) [snapback]283890[/snapback]
Wot is Mark going to do with his degree ??

Information technology-the 'IT' word those days NewTon-certainly much more useful than a Doctorate in evolutionary studies mind you! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-04 06:34:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 4 2007, 06:18 AM) [snapback]283888[/snapback]
cricket

rugby union

St Midden

Unionism

Beckham

Prime Minister Brown

Lizzie Hanover

Dubya Bush

Any specific type-CLAYMORE C0CK will need to know!
mortonjag 2007-06-04 07:36:26
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jun 4 2007, 06:56 AM) [snapback]283894[/snapback]
From my viewpoint the value of a degree has been devalued in recent years and that's a pity. Unfortunately I have interviewed so many semi-illiterate degree holders over the past few years that I'm begining to get a very jaundiced view of the governments policy of insisting that more and more kids should go to university.

...while at the same time the established 'Centres of Excellence', receive less and less state funding, and end up having to attract fees more and more from foreign talent, only a portion of which remains in this country after graduation.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 08:44:12
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jun 4 2007, 08:32 AM) [snapback]283904[/snapback]
I'm pretty sure Morton do not own it, it is owned by one of the Directors! wink.gif

You're being naughty, aren't you-now everybody will be speculating that Arfur's got planning permission for a multi storey nursing home, with a pent house suite including hospitality, directors' box and TV commentary stands.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 08:50:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 4 2007, 07:47 AM) [snapback]283897[/snapback]

only a portion of which remains in this country after graduation.

Gidday mortonjag,

Why are these Sassenachs allowed to return south of the border ??

Cannot courageous Colkitto capture these carpetbaggers ?

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Believe it or not, we ARE managing to stem the tide a wee bit in that direction, but the proportion of students from 'emerging' countries has mushroomed in the last few years.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 08:54:05
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 3 2007, 07:46 PM) [snapback]283671[/snapback]
3 weeks in September, touring about Somerset, Devon and Cornwall. We hope to get another week in Islay, this month.

Westering home-didn't realise you were an Islay fan DE-I loved that place, but haven't been back for many a long year.

'Fraid it's just a couple of weeks in the 'Van' at St Andrews-good weather, and ye cannae beat it!
mortonjag 2007-06-04 08:57:29
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 4 2007, 08:29 AM) [snapback]283903[/snapback]
You have absolutely no idea what the Wallace weekend entails, yet you try and put a negative spin on it. Scottish cringe creeping in again.

And for your information, my other half loves travelling up north, and the Wallace weekend.

...with its breathtaking views of the famous 'CLAYMORE C0CK'.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 09:11:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 4 2007, 08:59 AM) [snapback]283912[/snapback]
My alma mater, the University of New South Wales, has had lots of Asian students for 30 years or so.

Then they opened a campus in Singapore.

It collapsed last month.

The university will pay students up to $85,000 to study in Sydney after the collapse of its Singapore campus.

Up to 148 students who enrolled at the campus will have their travel, visa and accommodation costs in Sydney covered by the university until the end of their degrees, with students to receive as much as $85,000 each.
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http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/UNSW-t...0205586735.html

Glasgow and Strathclyde both recruit heavily in Malaysia.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 09:15:50
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 4 2007, 09:10 AM) [snapback]283913[/snapback]
Its about time the "Douglas Rae "GMFC Youth Academy"" was built on that land rolleyes.gif

Indeed young man, though I suspect Messrs Wm. Hill would offer you very generous odds against that ever happening. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-04 09:19:09 C0CKSOOKER
mortonjag 2007-06-04 09:25:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 4 2007, 09:18 AM) [snapback]283919[/snapback]
Is there really a Claymore C0ck ?

At Stonehaven ?

I cannae find it on Google ???

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The famous CLAYMORE C0CK can be seen in Stonehaven later this year, mainly on the Whisky Trail, where it will dispense its famous grouses.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 09:32:34
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 4 2007, 07:40 AM) [snapback]283896[/snapback]
Jackass star Johnny Knoxville has been slapped with a $15 million lawsuit by a man who claims the star talked him into putting his penis in a mousetrap.

Actor Perry Caravello claims he was severely injured when the trap went off while he was appearing on a talk-radio show with Knoxville.
He says in the suit that Knoxville had agreed to pay him more than $10 million for the stunt.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=270909
Was it meant to be reality radio ??
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....his testicles in a mincer, and his rectum on a red hot poker, while singing 'God Save America' in Swahili.

Trick-are you out there M8-is it any wonder some folks have a jaundiced view of Americans?
mortonjag 2007-06-04 09:40:45 Thirty years ago on today's date, England were defeated 2-1 at Wembley by another National side, whose fans then went on the rampage causing £15.000 worth of damage-equivalent to £150,000 at present.

Aye-but that's different! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-04 09:45:53
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 4 2007, 09:40 AM) [snapback]283932[/snapback]
Napier recruits quite heavily from *I think* China and Taiwan, as well as Spain, France, Ireland....

I've recently graduated with a 2:1 in an IT based subject, and to be honest looking at some of the other people who made it through the course i'm not surprised if degrees are not aas valued as before. I walked sraight into my current job from Uni - which had more to do with my stint there last summer as it did the class of my degree....

But you are quality man! wink.gif

Seriously though, my daughter in law , who's in Teaching, was saying that a 'University', in Renfrewshire, is attempting to admit to certain courses, students who have gained no highers at all.

Let's face it a 'bin man' by any other name's still a 'bin man'-or have I missed something? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-04 10:05:36
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Jun 4 2007, 09:58 AM) [snapback]283938[/snapback]
I admit that some degrees have been dumbed down quite a bit. In fact a report in the NOTW yesterday stated that some foreign students we threatening legal action as their results were poor and blaming it on lack of support.

Some people in my class at Uni wanted to be spoon fed everything and complained to me as class rep when a lecturer had the sheer cheek and audacity not to provde lecture slides. Also my manager was asked by Caley to sit on the degree revision board and was shocked when students complained of not enough support in dissertations, the validity of the uni wide IT test (he explained that in the public sector this is becoming an essential requirement) and one (my favourite) student complained that the University did not take into account students needs when having a lecture/class at 9am. At this point my manager said if this was their attitude the would not be employed or indeed last in employment long.

I went to Caley and some of the modules there are shocking, one "the caledonian degree" is essentially a pick and mix of business subjects of what you want to do.

It's interesting to hear that. 'Caley' is still regarded as 'jumped up' by many, in the same way as Strathclyde was 40 years ago, (or Stirling only 30), but it's been striving hard to improve its image.

It's the more recent examples that leave me despairing for the credibility of Scottish further Education.
Who, for example, would currently be aspiring to a Professorial appointment when Bell College becomes a 'University'?

mortonjag 2007-06-04 10:24:48
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Jun 4 2007, 10:07 AM) [snapback]283943[/snapback]
A couple of completely different subjects merged almost seamlessly guys.

1. Quality of a degree
I do agree that the general consensus is most education standards in the UK have deteriorated. From 'O' levels / grades to Degrees, the overall quality does appear to have been reduced. I'm not saying that the exams are any less difficult to pass, but for example some of the topics I remember being taught in Physics at 'O' grade are now being tested at Higher grade. At college / university level I think there has always been a discussion about the quality of one degree over another, and of course there has always been a certain level of snobbery in the discussion of red-brick (I remember guys talking about Strath Tech) versus the establishment.

2. Devaluation of qualification
While a similar and related topic, it is completely separate from the quality issue. In the chase for cash and having more 'academic' students rather than 'vocational' has meant that you can get a degree in anything these days. But should a degree in IT, let alone media studies (or Social Sciences), really be an academic topic or is it a vocational course. Now that is the big question and one that really needs to be resolved and resolved quickly in my opinion.

This in part has not been helped by turning technical colleges into universities. Both have a different role, but rather than have every establishment change to University to claim a more equal share of state funding, funding should be divided fairly from the start and technical colleges should go back to what they did best - an excellent mix of academic study and vocational training.

3. Overseas students
Don't have a problem with this at all - they bring their money and pays their way, all adding to the economy. There was a fair number of middle-east students studying in Glasgow while I was there, most of whom are probably now helping build nuclear reactors outside Tehran. But again that is a different issue. However I did agree with the executives drive to try and retain some of the overseas students via entrepreneurial grants.

4. Life-long eduction
As to your son's pal's qualification, congratulations to him. Clearly goes to show that just because you don't appear to be the sharpest tool in the box at school doesn't mean that people are 'smarter' than you. You can and should get into education at any age and all these bits of paper say is that you have the ability to learn and grow.


ScotinBelgie
HND - Glasgow Tech
BSc (Hons) - Paisley Tech

Good post Roberto-you know your onions!

Re. your last paragraph, I do agree in general-it was the 'FIRST CLASS HONOURS' bit that
puzzled me-and I assure you Mark's NOT that bright.

Nothing can, or should take away WHAT he's achieved-I just find the description completely at odds with my perception of University education, and the conferring of degrees.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 11:08:22
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 4 2007, 10:45 AM) [snapback]283959[/snapback]
In my own experience, plenty of smokers and a few (functional) drinkers. I can only go off what I know.

Smoking isn't 'cool' nowadays-do you really think the majority of smokers secretly believe they're 'right', and enjoy being persecuted?

If DE's referring to Delirium Tremens-the correct term for 'the shakes', I'd suggest that having to down a drink first think in the morning to 'steady up' is categorically NOT a symptom of FUNCTIONAL drinking. On the contrary it's frequently a symptom of full blown alcoholism, and if not, is a severe prognostic sign for it.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 11:15:58
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 4 2007, 11:07 AM) [snapback]283964[/snapback]
There are many directions that this debate could go. I can only provide the observations that I have witnessed ( I wouldn't necessarily call them facts). I lectured at Glasgow University. It is true to say that there were some young adults (minority) who in all seriousness did not possess the intelligence or in some cases the determination to succeed. It is often easy to focus on this fact. However, there were a number of students of truly outstanding ability. Oh and with regards academic ability our department, if I remember correctly, was ranked number two or three in the world of academic institutions for refereed publications.

Here's tae us-wha's like us- eh HT! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-04 11:16:59
QUOTE(NonTon @ Jun 4 2007, 11:11 AM) [snapback]283967[/snapback]
Well, if he's suffered any permanent damage then we can be safe in the knowledge that he's removed himself from the gene pool.

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mortonjag 2007-06-04 11:20:40
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 4 2007, 11:13 AM) [snapback]283970[/snapback]
Time has come for someone to ask this question, and that someone is me. The question is :-

how much money has this messageboard cost the economy?

I for one regularly post while in work and i would assume that many others do the same. I probably only make 2 or 3 posts a day max, so if we take about 5 minutes as the average posting time, thats 15 minutes a day i spend posting on here instead of working. Take another 15 minutes on top of that for browsing through the forums and thats half an hour a day.

So as not to get into another "out of interest - players wages" style arguement about earnings etc, lets just take the national average wage and assume we all earn that(it would be reasonable to assume that not everyone would be comfortable with advertising their salary). According to the ONS, national average weekly wage is ?440.90, which would work out at ?11 per hour (based on a 40 hour week).

here is the formula we can use to work out how much we are costing the economy:- ( w x h ) x d

where
w = hourly rate (?11 being the constant for the purpose of this exercise)
h = number of working hours per day you spend posting and browsing on here
d = number of days worked per year (i work mon - fri so mine was 5 x 52 = 260)

So, me first

(11 x 0.5) x 260 = ?1430.00

In other words, my browsing of this forum costs the economy ?1430.00 a year tongue.gif

lets work out the cumulative effect we are having. this could be pretty interesting.

Don't you start-Tonsilitis will be coming in his pin stripes.

I reckon that the amount of free education you lot have had from this one retired gentleman, will more than make up for the odd lapse at the conveyor belt! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-04 11:27:23
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 4 2007, 11:13 AM) [snapback]283971[/snapback]
Most smokers I know don't see it as a right or wrong issue. They enjoy their cigarettes.

I did specify functional.

You seemed to suggest they enjoy being treated as 'Pariahs'.

You did specify functional Nach0-I'm not sure what you understand by that-to me it suggests that the drinking is in no way compromising their lives, and that's PRECISELY what I'm trying to highlight. DT's and needing a drink first think in the morning are very serious signs indeed.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 11:30:48
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 4 2007, 10:20 AM) [snapback]283946[/snapback]
Thanks to my laziness at school I had to go college at night and get an HNC before I could get into 'Scrapier', but to be honest that HNC simply allowed me to get on the course - I would have felt confident attempting the degree regardless of the fact that I only have two highers...

My experience at school leads me to believe that a lack of Highers does not always necessarily signify a lack of intelligence, but possibly a lack of guidance and proper advice with regards careers and academic choices, coupled with bad decision making...

I guess it would depend on the type of courses the Uni was admitting people on to, but I'm led to believe a lot of employers look at the name of your Uni before they check your classification??

That is eminently correct. Mark's still a dunderhead! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-04 11:33:43
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 4 2007, 11:28 AM) [snapback]283983[/snapback]
The rank is but the guinea's stamp, the man's the gowd for a' that.

So true HT, and always will be whether toiling in obscurity, or sitting half demented in some Professorial chair.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 11:38:57
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 4 2007, 11:34 AM) [snapback]283986[/snapback]
I have to agree that smoking is highly addictive, costly and deadly habit but the governments response is to alienate smokers and make them feel like social pariahs, rather than address the issue of why people start smoking in the first place.

For illegal drug abuse, the drug bores and drug boasters (we all know someone) prey on impressionable young folk. The media dont do enough to portray the likes of Shaun Ryder, Pete Docherty, Kate Moss etc. as stupid people for getting involved in drugs, instead they are anti-hero types whom many rebellious youngsters look up to. For every Pete or Kate from Kensington or Bayswater there is countless dozens of youngsters from poorer backgrounds burning tinfoil down alleyways, sleeping in doorways and begging for coppers.

Spot on Arky, and the socioeconomic damage to our country caused by alcohol abuse makes the drugs issue look like a drop in the ocean, yet with the former, successive Governments continue their profiteering ways, merely paying lip service to health education.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 11:42:23
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 4 2007, 10:41 AM) [snapback]283955[/snapback]
gidday mortonjag,

that's not correct, mate.

Alibi is still negotiating with Inverclyde Council.

Didn't Sick Mick tell you ?

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mortonjag 2007-06-04 11:49:27
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 4 2007, 11:40 AM) [snapback]283990[/snapback]
laugh.gif Which volume?

I buy the bigger tube Weegie-100 mls I think, and I just love reading the warning-KY JELLY IS NOT A CONTRACEPTIVE

I always have this extremely evil vision of some sweet little 16 year old spreading it on her playpiece.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 11:57:45
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 4 2007, 11:49 AM) [snapback]283997[/snapback]
Education Education Education!

The policy is more about selling Student Loans than getting people educated, and a generation of youngsters are in debt before many have even started their working lives. Well done new Labour, even the tories never managed that.

In all fairness, there is nothing wrong with promoting the value of education to the masses, but an education isn't necessarily mean a degree. There is as much worth in a young guy learning a trade such as Plumbing, Carpentry, Stonemasonry etc. than a degree which he may or may not use in his working life.

If my perception's anything to go on, the tradesmen are the clever ones, and good luck to them.

If I could do it all over again, I'd train to be a skilled craftsman. I could take a pride in doing my job well and command payment relative to my worth-not working for an employer I may say.

Then again I'd maybe be a snail.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 12:09:30
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 4 2007, 12:03 PM) [snapback]284007[/snapback]
Nottingham Forest won two European Cups against the odds. It proves that if you work hard and do your best, you CAN achieve what you want to achieve.

Fair play to your sons pal Mark, its his achievement, he must have deserved it. There seems to be an overtone of jealousy in your original statement, dont you think you'd be better off shaking his hand and congratulating him instead of telling a messageboard full of strangers that:

Totally misunderstood Arky-why would I want to be jealous of a 'First' anywhere, let alone at Pishley Uni. Mark has every reason to be proud of what for him is a supreme achievement, and his hand will be honestly shaken when we next meet.

....and he's still a dunderheid!
mortonjag 2007-06-04 12:39:05
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 4 2007, 12:13 PM) [snapback]284012[/snapback]
I didn't. In most cases they are not treated as pariahs. I have literally never smoked a cigarette in my puff (hurrrr!) but it doesn't bother me in the least if a friend of mine lights up. If they are treated as pariahs by others, they've never given any indication, publically or privately, of caring one way or another.

Functional addiction is still problematic in peoples' lives. Obviously. If you can't get through a working day without taking a wee dram, for example, even if you're very good at your job you still have a problem. However, I have known a couple of people who need a particular substance like this, yet are perfectly content with that as they don't see it as enough of a problem that it's causing an undue effect on their life. Hence, functional addiction.

I'd say anyone who's about to suffer from the DTs is well beyond that stage... physically, if nothing else. I'd say that's dysfunctional.

I'd suggest there's a fundamental difference between potential addiction (genetically determined I'd assert), and being a full blown addict.

I understand what you mean by 'functional addiction', but for me the word 'addiction' is synonymous with a habit that's gone out of control, and causing perceptible harm in at least one area of the sufferer's life. At it's simplest level it may just be irresponsibly spending cash.

There are countless very heavy drinkers who manage their way to the grave without apparently doing any great harm to themselves and others. Some of them are capable of consuming far greater quantities than many a degenerate alcoholic has ever done.

The essential difference is very simple-the addict is powerless to control the habit-no matter how much he wants to, and no matter how much his behaviour damages him and others. You can certainly be a functional drinker-a heavy one at that, but I dispute the validity of the term 'functional addict'.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 12:46:27
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 4 2007, 12:14 PM) [snapback]284013[/snapback]
Maybe so, but where is the merit in you trying you denegrate Mark's achievements to a messageboard full of folk who dont know him?

ArklesTon
University of Paisley graduate (2003)

That wasn't my intention at all. I merely find great difficulty in understanding how our further education system can award a first class Honours degree to a boy of such modest intellect-no more-no less. If I'd simply been told he'd graduated I'd have been surprised, but if Mark is first class Honours material (and I'm NOT taking anything away from HIS achievement) I despair of the system which awarded it.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 12:49:25
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 4 2007, 12:34 PM) [snapback]284020[/snapback]
Is that a new name for it then??

Oh whatever unsure.gif -did you not take playpieces to school-we all did and shared them around behind the bikeshed.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 12:55:31
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 4 2007, 12:16 PM) [snapback]284015[/snapback]
Maybe he's an extremely hard worker?

I think there are two main ways to pass written exams with superb grades. Either be intelligent enough to be able to take a firm grasp of any given situation at short notice and produce something excellent from it, or be tenacious enough to study your ass off and - essentially - regurgitate. Even if you can't quite process how everything fits together, or how certain concepts work, you can almost certainly give the impression that you do. (Of course, you can combine the two methods, and I think most people who get firsts have to do this.)

I know from my own academic experience that some of the top achievers were in the second category. They spent a lot of time in the library, they asked a lot of questions in tutorials, and they were organised.

Correct Nach0-but every student has only a certain potential. Young Mark would NEVER have been awarded an Honours degree in any subject at one of the traditional Universities. No matter how long and hard posters want to fight their own little corners, I am utterly convinced of that-and that is in a nutshell the whole reason for my starting the thread. Which is better, the bottom of the top, or the top of the bottom, or should THAT be a new thread? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-04 12:57:34
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 4 2007, 12:52 PM) [snapback]284027[/snapback]
The Scottish Insurrection of 1820 by Seumas A' Ghobhainn and Peter Berresford Ellis

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mortonjag 2007-06-04 12:59:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 4 2007, 12:56 PM) [snapback]284030[/snapback]
bugger - it doesn't have that warning here in Oz.

are you sure, mortonjag ?

don't panic

don't panic

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

'Fraid so NewTon, and on a more serious note, back in the seventies it was not all that uncommon to discover folk who got it all SO wrong.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 13:09:15
QUOTE(ianton @ Jun 4 2007, 12:59 PM) [snapback]284032[/snapback]
we were all told months ago that they had certain players they had in mind.i'm quite sure there is a lot going on behind the scenes.the goalkeeper situation wasn't really unexpected to me.after reading his comments about only here to collect a winners medal.it just means dougie will have to splash the cash or maybe we'll get a bosman.anyway it's early days.no panic yet.

They can do what they like as long as they get it right this time-I have grave reservations on that. They can also choose to alienate fans by effectively closing the already moribund GMFC.net for weeks on end.

It's their prerogative, and their cash (even if we did give them quite a lot of it), and they know best-well THEY MUST, MUSTN'T THEY-COS THEY'RE IN CHARGE!!!!! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-04 14:20:50
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Jun 4 2007, 01:25 PM) [snapback]284045[/snapback]
I hate to repeat myself, but it comes down to the snobbery accepted by society when it comes to education and certain professions. If you didn't go to an established university then you're a dunderhied. If you didn't do a useful degree and only go 5 hrs a week then you're a dunderhied. If you are only a plumber and not a doctor / lawyer then you're a dunderhied.

While attitudes are changing until people realise that the 3/4 years of training that a spark apprentice used to go through to get their City and Guilds qualification is as valuable as any piece of paper from Glasgow or St. Andrews or Oxbridge, then we will still be discussing whether Strath Tech is really a university or not.

The one thing that I have learnt is that education is a lifelong persuit. Personally I would recommend to any young student that in today's society it is better to begin with a vocationally focused education which provides a useful 'trade' (doctors, lawyers, plumers, electricians are all the same to me) as this should provide a financial basis from which to extend their education and follow more academic pursuits (literature, history, theology, philosophy, etc. - although these disciplines can of course be included as part of a more vocational / technical education). I don't rule out purely academic education and of course we do need to promote excellent talent in these fields, but the long term benefit is often overshadowed by the need for short term gain.

ScotinBelgie

Correct.

Mark is just a 'dunderheid', mind-relatively speaking of course, and your comment about values of pieces of paper is valid too-it's what's done thereafter that matters.

None of that alters the fact that the concept of a 'University degree' has been grossly diluted-plain and simple.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 14:23:59
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 4 2007, 02:02 PM) [snapback]284059[/snapback]
Yes but as some unis have good reputation ad different subjects that is taken into account. University of Paisley has a good IT reputation and the vast majority of IT graduates get jobs.
Yet again you slag University of Paisley why?

Because Bryan-like it or not- it's not yet established itself alongside more traditional places-how could it-it takes many decades. Strathclyde is now an excellent Uni, but when I was a kid it was a technical college.

It's not the Institution I'm slagging-it's the folk who pretend it's what it's not.

Morton is a good football team-in terms of SPL sides, it is not. Hopefully that will change in the future.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 14:36:36
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 4 2007, 02:30 PM) [snapback]284077[/snapback]
Its a great uni at certain things, i worked dam hard at my degree and i do not want my effort dismissed by saying its only University of Paisley, me and 95 percent of folk got good jobs with that and simlar degrees that speaks volumes for the IT skills gained.

Bryan you're taking this personally which is pointless. Other posters have pointed out that IT is not a traditional University subject. If I get a degree in polishing shoes somewhere, does that suddenly make the place a University, let alone a good one. I'm not knocking Mark's achievement, or yours, or anybody elses. I'm simply asking people to accept reality. People are all to quick to jump on the 'academic snobbery' bandwagon, but IMHO it's just as bad, if not worse to pretend you're something you're not. Paisley, by accepted University standards, is still in the learning stages.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 16:25:01
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 4 2007, 02:29 PM) [snapback]284076[/snapback]
Is this perhaps, not opposite to your basic premise? By the creation of a University like Strathclyde, more high quality graduates have been output and not all of them with silver-plated spoons.

My basic premise, if indeed we are to use logic, HT, was that as a young man whom I knew very well and who was plainly 'not very bright' achieved a 'first class Honours' degree, the Institution from which it was obtained did not match the standards I expect of 'A UNIVERSITY'.

When Strathclyde was created, there were, so far as I recall, four Universities in Scotland. Need I say more?
mortonjag 2007-06-04 16:32:54
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 4 2007, 02:31 PM) [snapback]284079[/snapback]
having worked in recruitment, i can confirm that it is the qualification which gets your foot in the door, then its all about how you present yourself and come across at interview, and how relevant your experience and track record is.

in other words, 2 guys with identical degrees from paisley and glasgow. if they have the relevant experience also, then both will get an interview. once your foot is in the door, people arent as interested in your degree, they are interested in you as a person, and how good a job you will be able to do. a decision isnt going to be made on the basis of "hmmm but this guys degree was from paisley"

i know from your earlier posts that you are retired MJ, and as such i am guessing its been a while since you were in the labour market, possibly several years (or even decades perhaps) since you were last seeking work? if this is so then i would say that you are hardly well equipped to comment on such matters.

Your can say what you like, and twist what I'm trying to say as much as you like. Who do you recruit for-bloody Sainsbury's?

The very SUBSTANCE of your statement is itself a sad reflection of the true value of a University degree nowadays.

Incidentally, I am actively involved in a HIGHLY successful recruitment company, and every week I go to Ton matches with the 'boss' of a REAL University.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 17:10:52
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 4 2007, 02:36 PM) [snapback]284084[/snapback]
For non-vocational degrees, my experience is much the same as Greacen2000's. People simply aren't that interested in my degree; they were more interested in what skills I could bring to the job. Honestly, the last full-time job I had, the boss was more impressed by my running a Morton website than they were my degree laugh.gif

nach0, you've put my point eloquently. A 'Uni degree' per se nowadays means very little. That, for the simple reason that you just about get them free in Cornflakes packets.

Far from prospective employers not being interested in qualifications, they look more closely than ever-if they're clued up in the slightest that is.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 17:17:27
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 4 2007, 02:40 PM) [snapback]284088[/snapback]
This is pretty ludicrous. IT and its associated fields are driving the motors of business and research all over the world. If a University is providing good education and research in that field then it should be recognised as such.

Universities have always moved with the time, sometimes even at odds with government or orthodoxy. They should be taken on the merits of the day, not just on tradition.

IT by definition is a technology, and there were plenty of excellent 'Techs' around. Strathclyde after some half a century is now accepted by those who know what they are talking about to have slowly evolved into an excellent University. Most of the more recent examples-like Paisley Tech/University are still at a very early stage in that evolutionary process. The difference now is that there are so many institutions masquerading as Universities, that only few have any hope of achieving true excellence. I've obviously stood on some toes, but if people are unaware of, or unwilling to accept facts, they should don 'Toetectors'.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 17:19:00
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 4 2007, 02:46 PM) [snapback]284093[/snapback]
Erm IT has been taught for over 40 years in unis when does it start being traditional? Paisley(soon to be University of the West of Scotland or whatever name they pick) is a uni in all sences of the word, you cannot dismiss a uni if its just 15 years old.

Some would disagree.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 17:23:27
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 4 2007, 02:48 PM) [snapback]284095[/snapback]
in whose eyes MJ? i think you might be missing the point mate. most people coming out of caley or paisley with a degree probably couldnt give 2 hoots whether you think its any good or not. i would imagine they are more bothered about what prospective employers might think (see my previous post above)

interestingly, Paisley uni and Caley both have excellent reputations for forging partnerships within the industry, helping students to get experience while studying for their degree. in the eyes of many employers, this will be more relevant than how old and grand an institution they attended, dont you think?

Industry used to very successfully train its own workforce, and IMHO would be better off still doing that.

WTF do they home in on Graduates with irrelevant degrees-far from being an Academic snob, I believe that millions of hard working people have hit a brick wall in the promotion stakes because of a misplaced perception of the value of 'Mickey Mouse' degrees.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 17:27:36
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 4 2007, 04:50 PM) [snapback]284143[/snapback]
well done mate, i'm really pleased for you. scuse me for voicing an opinion. i was merely speaking from experience and asking what i thought was a pretty reasonable question. sorry for breathing.

oh, and by the way - yer a snob!

edit to add - i'm not about to name my employers - past or present, but for your information i was involved in the recruitment process for a number of blue chip clients, often assessing candidates for senior positions with 6 figure salaries. my comments have been based on my experiences in this job.

There's no need to be petty-your opinion is perfectly valid, even if it is mistaken. Inverted snobbery is always the most lamentable Greacen! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-04 17:29:15
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 4 2007, 05:19 PM) [snapback]284149[/snapback]
LOOK EVERYONE, FACE IT. MJ IS RIGHT AND YOU ARE WRONG. UNDERSTOOD?

Spoken like a true Oxford Don! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-04 17:33:42
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 4 2007, 05:27 PM) [snapback]284155[/snapback]
But it's not a "fact" - it's your perception. Yes, there are more universities, yes, it's a very convincing argument that the concept of "a degree" is debased as a result... but it doesn't mean that in any given subject (as Bryan is arguing) that all new universities are lower down the evolutionary scale than all older universities.

The point is that you have to take each individual case on its merit. If, as you say, employers look very closely at qualifications, then that's probably not an issue in the working world, at least. Whether it's an issue in academia and research circles at large, I don't know.

Bryan's hobby horse is a good example of arguing the general from the particular. I've no reason to doubt what he says any more than I have to doubt that in the Scottish Universities pecking order, Paisley is still very near the back of the queue.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 17:38:22
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 4 2007, 02:45 PM) [snapback]284092[/snapback]
Fruitcake.

TonInDublin

You don't often dish out compliments.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 17:40:03
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 4 2007, 05:34 PM) [snapback]284164[/snapback]
I have always preferred Cambridge.

Pouffe!
mortonjag 2007-06-04 17:47:26
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 4 2007, 05:37 PM) [snapback]284166[/snapback]
But the point is that it is a particular issue - particular not just to the university but to the faculty, and sometimes even the department. That's what Bryan was getting at.

In the case of some ultra-prestigious universities like, say, MIT, having "a degree from MIT" is a superb achievement in itself and one that will have employers and academics alike beating down your door to recruit you. Can you say the same for "a degree from Glasgow" - even a First from Glasgow?

I'm not quite sure WHICH particular issue you're talking about nach0.


My initial surprise was that a 'numpty' is sporting a 'First' from Paisley, and I assure you that that perception will be shared by the vast majority of Scottish teachers and Academics.

Would you prefer me to suggest that a 'First' in IT from Paisley University is merely the exception which proves (or for the pedantic-disproves) the rule.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 17:49:18
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 4 2007, 05:45 PM) [snapback]284172[/snapback]
Sounds like you are discribing your self there Mick rolleyes.gif

more compliments-the boy will be blushing with embarrassment.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 18:06:28
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 4 2007, 05:50 PM) [snapback]284175[/snapback]
Yeah, I kinda jumped between two of them there biggrin.gif

For the first part - the faculty and department matters as much as the institution. They often have a great deal of autonomy (and sometimes conflict.)

I'm not that bothered what you suggest - I'm just saying in my experience there is far more to it than the name of the university, and the age of the university.

Shouldn't that be 'IT'! rolleyes.gif

If I was recruiting for a specific job nach0 I'd like to imagine that I'd be clued up on the performance of individual faculties-in that respect you and Bryan are correct.

What angers me is that when I state the obvious-namely that Paisley is a very young University which is not rated as a 'high flier' by those 'in the know', I'm immediately bombarded with spurious and convoluted arguments by folks with their own individual gripes.

The irrefutable fact is that the possession of a 'University degree' nowadays is so commonplace, that perceptive onlookers are more and more checking the source of the award-and indeed-as you correctly state-the relevant degree subject.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 18:23:38
QUOTE(lush @ Jun 4 2007, 03:08 PM) [snapback]284105[/snapback]
Thornton kills another thread stone dead shocker! rolleyes.gif

May I do a thread 'Lazarus' and ask ThornTON an extremely genuine question.

Do you seriously and sincerely believe what you write, or are you just the supreme 'wind up merchant'?

The figure quoted equates to about £13 an hour. It's bloody obvious that employers are not dishing out that sort of money to inexperienced kids, but the original poster was talking about National averages, or means, or medians, or whatever.

For a young man who is normally so obsessed with statistics, you have an uncanny knack of flying in the face of established fact when it suits you.

mortonjag 2007-06-04 18:33:22 Retired gentleman seeks personal valet. Board and accommodation provided. Salary negotiable.

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mortonjag 2007-06-04 18:40:39
QUOTE(NonTon @ Jun 4 2007, 12:25 PM) [snapback]284017[/snapback]
*facepalm*

Feel free to ignore me from now on.
Hoho! Nah, I have a fully functioning Y chromosome - this probably wasnt the best choice of names but I wanted a get out clause in case someone called me out on not being a diehard ton man.

hmm not XXY perchance! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-04 18:45:24
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 4 2007, 06:42 PM) [snapback]284205[/snapback]
When did a penis like you ever set the standard which determined what is/isn't a university?

Coming from you Sir-a rare compliment! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-04 18:57:19
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 4 2007, 06:43 PM) [snapback]284206[/snapback]
MJ - no need to insult my intelligence. the reason i responded with "MJ IS RIGHT, UNDERSTOOD" was because you have singularly failed to offer any reasoning behind your arguements, instead being selective about the points you respond to, and posting "facts" instead of arguements to back up what is in fact "your opinion".

furthermore, the reason i was "petty" as you put it (i would call it sarcasm) was that in response to what [i thought] was a pretty reasonable point about how my experience in recruitment led me to form my opinions on the matter, you responded with a rather childish "my dads car is bigger than yours" type arguement about how you work for a VEEEERY succesful recruitment firm, and are pals with a REAL university Dean. The fact is, that doesnt impress me and you failed to respond to any of the points i had raised.

all i have tried to say on this thread, is that experience and personality/image will be MUCH more important to a potential employer than where your degree is from, but i think that maybe you are trying to have a different arguement.

for someone with such an impeccable academic pedigree, i thought you might have understood the basics of the empirical approach, and backing up your assertions with rational arguements. clearly you are exempt from this, since you are right and anyone who doesnt agree with you is wrong in this case.

in short, i think you are being pretty blinkered with some of the statements you are making.

naturally, new universities are not going to have the same kind of reputations as old institutions which have existed for 00's of years and can count some of our countries greatest thinkers amongst their allumini, but that is not to say that those who gain qualifications from them are any less intelligent, or have worked any less hard in gaining their qualification. neither is it to say that their degree will be any less useful in getting a job than one from a "real" university (in reality, neither of them are worth very much these days - as you said, degrees are much more common)

p.s. sorry if im being a bit "spurious and convoluted" here

You are of course correct Greacen-your relative lack of intelligence is demonstrated amply in your most recent post.

I don't feel a need to impress anybody, but I do post my sincerely held views, and they ARE based on a wide exposure to employment issues, and an 'in depth' knowledge of University affairs.

Incidentally, I did not mention a 'Dean' anywhere in my post-the word I used was 'Boss'.

The fact that you are incapable of spelling correctly a simple word like 'argument' merely confirms my perception of the dilution of standards in Scottish Education.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 19:01:31
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 4 2007, 06:54 PM) [snapback]284213[/snapback]
Reading down this thread since i was last on around lunchtime and i can see how this is going. In the eyes of the majority of one (plus his hauners, Bam McT and Alibi who will come along arguing his corner and bailing him out later on) certain universities arent real universities because they weren't around before the 1960s blah blah etc.

What matters more, the ability to know and understand your chosen profession in life and undertake related work accordingly, or the bit of paper stating that you can carry out the work concerned or where you were taught to carry out the work concerned?

Answer me that, Mortonjug??

Jobs are learned in the workplace Narky-simple as that, and long past time employers went back to the concept of apprenticeship.

Paisley is still 'not quoted' in the SPL of Universities, but there's always time.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 19:06:44
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 4 2007, 07:03 PM) [snapback]284218[/snapback]
Show me the SPL of universities.

I was, of course, speaking figuratively. If you are really so keen to be embarrassed though, I can easily access official statistics.

Incidentally, I DID answer your question. I take it that your lack of contention signifies concurrence.
mortonjag 2007-06-04 19:13:38
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 4 2007, 07:00 PM) [snapback]284216[/snapback]
A zygote soul ? Sho nuff I do, bro.

And if the Zygote fails to duplicate, does its soul join countless millions of other Zygote souls in Heaven?
mortonjag 2007-06-04 19:16:24
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 4 2007, 07:08 PM) [snapback]284222[/snapback]
Show me the SPL of universites.

You said that already and I replied-you're beginning to behave like CLAYMORE C0CK, and I expect better of you Narky. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-04 19:22:10
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 4 2007, 07:18 PM) [snapback]284230[/snapback]
Ah, trying to wriggle out of it.

You cant show me an SPL of universities, because there isnt one.

How can there be one! rolleyes.gif I told you I was speaking figuratively Arky, but there are generally accepted performance statistics, and as I stated, if you really want it spelled out I can easily access them.

Then of course, you'd dispute their validity, but as the Bard said, 'Facts are chiels that winna ding'.
mortonjag 2007-06-05 04:23:25
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 4 2007, 08:42 PM) [snapback]284284[/snapback]
Now University biology is 35 years since but does a zygote not cleave? rolleyes.gif

It may duplicate-the first step to identical or di-zygotic twins, and presumably the clone zygote will have an identical soul to the original.

You are correct of course, though the normally used embryological term is 'divide'.
mortonjag 2007-06-05 04:26:41 ABHORRENT ANTI SIMIAN HEGEMONY EDINTON
mortonjag 2007-06-05 04:33:52
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 4 2007, 08:31 PM) [snapback]284275[/snapback]
you don't really get redheads with black pubes. common knowledge.

But blackheads on red pubes are common.

Ask Sick Mick. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-05 04:47:45
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 4 2007, 10:25 PM) [snapback]284315[/snapback]
i can only assume from that this statement that you are trying to fish for reactions with your statements on this thread, which admittedly makes them a lot easier to understand.
all i have been asking you to do is share some of your wealth of experience with us by responding to the points made in challenge to you, instead of yet more blowing of your trumpet about how much better than us you are because of your amazing mates and fantastic career. do you fancy giving it another try?
well i have to admit you got me there sir. i made a spelling mistake rolleyes.gif contrary to confirming "the dilution of standards in Scottish Education", i would actually suggest that the fact you have even stooped to the pedantic level of highlighting a spellnig mistaike in an attempt to discredit me, is in fact more of an indication of how desperate you are getting as your arguements begin to wear thin in the absence of anything concrete to back them up with. it also confirms my earlier assertion that you are indeed old fashioned and out of touch, and are indeed a snob.


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Have a look at Chrissiboi's signature Greacen, and as I said to Narky 'Facts are chiels that winna ding'.

It seems to me that the poster who 'protesteth too much' is your goodself.

If you look at the tables I've posted, you will see that I have indeed backed up my proposition that a first class honours degree at certain institutions is not what it first might appear.
mortonjag 2007-06-05 04:52:37
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 4 2007, 07:43 PM) [snapback]284237[/snapback]
I've done a quick search for university league tables and found this:

Guardian University League Table for Computer Sciences and IT

According to this website, Paisley's IT faculty ranks at a respectable 69.7 out of 100, making it 31st in the UK amongst 109 different universites; and 5th in Scotland behind St.Andrews, Edinburgh, Glasgow and Strathclyde but ahead of Heriot-Watt, Stirling, Robert Gordon, Glasgow Caledonian and Abertay.

Safe to say that this 'dunderheid' of whom you are so jealous has achieved a decent education in his chosen field.

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You're not telling me that crusty old Glesga Uni-Alma Mater of this 'snob' actually BEAT Paisley Tech in TECHNICAL sciences.

'Something rotten in the state of Denmark' methought, so I did some research myself.

In the Sunday Times University League Tables-2006, Paisley ranked 3rd BOTTOM of all 120 listed British Universities. For your interest, I've compiled a Premier League, and First Division for the fourteen Scottish institutions.



SPL

St Andrews 10th
Edinburgh 14th
Glasgow 30th
Aberdeen 35th
Dundee 39th
Stirling 42nd
Heriot Watt 43rd

1st Division

Strathclyde 47th
Queen Mgt. University College 57th
Robert Gordon 68th
Caledonian 83rd
Napier 93rd
Abertay 113th
PAISLEY 118th and down two places from 2005.

You will notice that there seems not to be very much between the bottom of the higher division, and the top of the lower, but the gap between Strathclyde (at 47th) and Paisley (at 118th) is significantly large.

League tables of this nature are subjective, but the criteria used were pretty far reaching, and as far as I can see the Sunday Times has produced an accurate reflection of the true picture. I refer you to my original opinion and now rest my case.
mortonjag 2007-06-05 04:57:18
QUOTE(j-robot @ Jun 5 2007, 01:19 AM) [snapback]284373[/snapback]
lol, he's mental because he has you on ignore!!!!

It happens all the time raw bum!

Do I upset folks or something? sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-05 05:01:53
QUOTE(shedhead @ Jun 4 2007, 10:00 PM) [snapback]284307[/snapback]
I can see how it can be classed as an illness , although an illness that is caused by some poor life decisions. The most important factor in breaking an addiction is that you must really want to stop. Sounds a bit simple but it's the truth.

The illness is caused by indulging in the behaviour, but would not develop if the genetic precursor was absent. You are SPOT ON when you suggest that a genuine will to give up is vastly more important than everything else put together.
mortonjag 2007-06-05 05:05:12
QUOTE(El Duderino @ Jun 5 2007, 01:30 AM) [snapback]284374[/snapback]
Addiction=

good
good good
good good good
good good good good
good good good good bad
good good good bad
good good bad
good bad
bad
bad
stop the badness....

Is, say, alcoholism and illness? Er, of course! It makes you not feel "well" - shakes, fits, hallucinations...
Whether thats primarily physical illness - nictotine, opiate, whatever withdrawal, or psychological - gambling, chocolate, whatever, they outcome is a state of "not-wellness", and therefore illness.
Is it a disease? Well, yeah, this just means suffering from an illness - physically, or as judged by society.

It's often both of those in combination dude.

BTW-what's your poison? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-05 05:15:28 Many happy returns young man.

As a self confessed hippy, you may be interested to to know that the Scott MacKenzie hit 'San Francisco' is 40 today.

You were born on the same day as Miss Universe 1997-a nice little lady from Cyprus-Korina Nicolaou.
mortonjag 2007-06-05 05:19:50
QUOTE(tigerjock @ Jun 5 2007, 04:40 AM) [snapback]284389[/snapback]
Most red flanges i've had the pleasure of have had no pubes, but i think that's more of a fashion statement.

I've noticed over the last 10-15 years that the ginner hair brigade are a lot more common, my oldest is of the carrot persuasion and he has no trouble with the young chicks at school, although he only blows his copper top on the very rare occasion

Anything that's a wee bit uncommon is picked on-it's how the 'victim' deals with it which determines his 'fate'.

Chris Evans certainly capitalised on his singularly gawky ginger head!
mortonjag 2007-06-05 06:46:16
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 5 2007, 06:44 AM) [snapback]284404[/snapback]
You edited your 'SPL' and '1st Division' lists just as i started typing my last message before i got a chance to get tore into you properly.

On your list before edit a couple of your '1st Division' universities had higher rankings than the 'SPL' ones, care to explain that?

Simple-I'm a doddery old c*nt, but what you now see is correct. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-05 06:49:20
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 4 2007, 06:46 PM) [snapback]284208[/snapback]
Previous experience neccesary MJ? blink.gif rolleyes.gif

Previous experience is not essential, though preference may be given to applicants who have a good working knowledge of proctology.
mortonjag 2007-06-05 06:51:13
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 5 2007, 01:53 AM) [snapback]284382[/snapback]
I watched tonight news broadcast where Mr Vladamir Putin desccribe himself as the biggest Democrat since Ghandi .
This is the guy whose human right violations are almost off the scale , his total inaction on the worrying dumps of nuclear waste that are littered across Russia , there is is also the dispute about the death of Litvenko .
Now he claims if the US deploy a new anti missile system in Europe , Mr Putin will direct his nuclear weapons our our continent . Admittedly it will be abit of sabre rattling with next years elections in Russia .
I know that it would take a stereotypal Bond baddie to compare to Mr Bush . Mr Blair has been tainted by his collusion with GWB's thirst for war .
If anyone wants to see why societies are crumbling into lawlessness then these people by their actions have blood on their hands .

That makes CLAYMORE C0CK look like Mother Theresa.
mortonjag 2007-06-05 07:02:41
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 4 2007, 07:37 PM) [snapback]284236[/snapback]
I'd be very surprised if Rowan was an alcoholic. I think that is just an unfounded rumour - I don't think he drinks at all, or at most very very moderately. Perhaps wishful thinking by some on here who have forgotten what a good servant he was to Morton. Just because he found some success somewhere else doesn't make him some sort of villain, even less a target for abuse.

If you are privy to fact Alibi, why do you couch your post in such guarded language?

There are plenty of reports of Ro bevvying in the past, and he was off work with 'stress', or 'for personal reasons'-far and away the two most common euphemisms for alcohol related problems.

Having said that, I hope for Rowan's sake that you are correct. He is responsible for his actions, albeit only those of an arrogant, and sullen pr*ck.
mortonjag 2007-06-05 07:17:57 We need an experienced salaried director of football. Dougie has experience in running a sweetie business-he is a Morton FAN just as we are, but all whom he's so far appointed answer directly to 'yer man'.
mortonjag 2007-06-05 07:24:56
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 5 2007, 07:06 AM) [snapback]284410[/snapback]
Nah, the ones with the 'lower' rankings were old 'proper' universities which you included in your SPL at the expense of some of the modern ones like Heriot Watt and Stirling. Its really more about you have a prejudice against the oiks that went to one of the more modern universities and you wish to denegrate their achievements.

In all fairness to you, you are entitled to your prejudices as much as anyone else, I dont think myself or anyone else on here will be able to convince you to think otherwise.

Back to the point of the argument, this guy 'Mark' went to a decent place to learn his chosen profession and obviously done well enough to achieve a first class honours degree. Why not just say fair play and well done to him, instead of calling him a 'dunderheid' and ridiculing his achievements?

The point of the argument Narky was that I had actually believed Paisley was much improved until I learned that Mark got a 'first' there. I've already said that he has done extremely well, given his limited intellect, and I will congratulate him when we next meet.
I've adjusted nothing in the league tables-check the Sunday Times web site. Paisley's performance speaks for itself.
mortonjag 2007-06-05 07:28:13
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 5 2007, 06:40 AM) [snapback]284402[/snapback]
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There is normally 12 teams in an SPL league, why has yours only got 7?

Please yourself-if you want a lower division of 2 Paisley's still propping it up!
mortonjag 2007-06-05 08:06:57
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 5 2007, 07:49 AM) [snapback]284419[/snapback]
Sadly, I am no longer the carrot top I was in 1963/1964.

Too much ultra violet light in Oz.

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However, it was rather strange being called "Bluey".

I first thought it was because of my Ton top.

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But it persisted.

Aussies are different.

'Bluey' was the name of my budgie when I was a child-unsurprisingly because it was blue.

Thinking laterally, 'Pinkie' might be apt nowadays.
mortonjag 2007-06-05 08:19:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 5 2007, 08:06 AM) [snapback]284422[/snapback]
Could anyone talk you into putting your favourite part of your body in a mousetrap ?
Perry Caravello claims in the suit that Knoxville had agreed to pay him more than $10 million for the stunt.

Gidday chrissiboi,

any man brave enough to pack into a rugby union front row would surely accept the above offer ??

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.... I'm still puzzled-always thought mice had a lust for 'cheese'-there again... unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-05 08:40:46 'a wee keech'
mortonjag 2007-06-05 08:45:01 For once I'm with CLAYMORE C0CK.

F*ck all to do with our heritage-just vote catching spin aimed at immigrants IMO.
mortonjag 2007-06-05 08:46:35
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Jun 5 2007, 08:44 AM) [snapback]284439[/snapback]
And this guy couldn't have even an ounce of thought that putting his dick into a mousetrap would do some permanent damage? Was he THAT stupid????

This Jackass thing is dumb in the first place, and everyone partaking in it deserves what they get.

Spoken like a true Scot Soldier! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-05 08:47:41
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 5 2007, 08:47 AM) [snapback]284442[/snapback]
Im surprised at you Colkitto. You've spelt britain with a capital B.

keyboard software.
mortonjag 2007-06-05 08:51:39
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Jun 5 2007, 08:27 AM) [snapback]284431[/snapback]
There's one in the Oval Office now. Don't forget that he's "born again," and that he gets "advice" from the Evangelical idiots such as Jerry Falwell and the like.
There's no difference between what the Christians did in the Crusades and what the Muslim Jihadists are advocating now.

moot point I'd say Trick. The world we live in nowadays is one helluvalot different from the basic and often barbaric existence of the middle ages. Them thar Moo Slims should know better.
mortonjag 2007-06-05 09:07:45
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 5 2007, 08:58 AM) [snapback]284448[/snapback]
You're not saying the 'enlightened' modern age is any less barbaric are you ? How many wars, how many millions dead, how many genocides in the last 100 years ? blink.gif

Who knows DE-I was actually referring to the Crusades versus present day Islamic funamentalist extremism-I'm probably wrong on this one-all humanity stinks.
mortonjag 2007-06-05 09:10:57
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 5 2007, 09:05 AM) [snapback]284450[/snapback]
thanks for that.

clearly, you are wanting to have a different arguement as you again have decided not to respond to any of the points i made, instead repeating yourself again.

If you wish to tabulate some points Greacen I'll happily address them, and feel free to call me silly names while you're at it-it doesn't cut any ice with me.

So far as my original post AND opinion are concerned, I've amply demonstrated my point, and have no more to say on that.
mortonjag 2007-06-05 09:14:37
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 5 2007, 09:11 AM) [snapback]284454[/snapback]
I wouldn't extend my cynicism that far. But Paisley certainly does.

I think it was Jonathan Swift who 'hated humanity' but was fond of 'John', 'James' and so on-that's not a direct quote, but it's how I see it too. As a species our behaviour places us lower than insects.
mortonjag 2007-06-05 09:22:14
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 5 2007, 09:17 AM) [snapback]284459[/snapback]
no thanks. there is obviously no reasoning with you. insulting my intelligence doesnt "cut any ice" with me either. if you really want to address my points, why dont you read my posts?

go on...post something else - have the last word, be my guest

laugh.gif Greacen 2000 exits -stage left.
mortonjag 2007-06-05 09:26:23
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 5 2007, 09:17 AM) [snapback]284458[/snapback]
Speak for yourself ya auld blether.

I'd rather be a spider than a snail mind!
mortonjag 2007-06-05 09:34:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 5 2007, 09:08 AM) [snapback]284452[/snapback]
that putting his dick into a mousetrap would do some permanent damage?
Gidday Trick

I am not going near a mousetrap.

However, would not the degree of damage depend on how "active" the appendage was at the time the mouse trap went off ???

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..he could have got off quite lightly with a minor tear to his pullover for example.
mortonjag 2007-06-05 09:38:05
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 5 2007, 09:29 AM) [snapback]284463[/snapback]
I recall from a while back that you're another one of these old-school Paisley Uni haters. However if your daughter was studying there, it would have been a different kettle of fish.

A few folk from here would slate it at any opportunity just because of its name, petty to say the least, but it is a good place to study and learn and would recommend to anyone.

FFS Arky it's all a matter of degree unsure.gif

Greenock Morton achieved everything they set out to do last season. They were congratulated spontaneously for that achievement.

That did NOT mean they would have won the SPL.

Why is it some folk can't just accept facts?
mortonjag 2007-06-05 09:39:48
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 5 2007, 09:34 AM) [snapback]284465[/snapback]
Last refuge of the old b*****d who is losing an argument. Quote some Burns and make yourself look well read and full of wisdom.

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Makes as much sense as "Bells they ring, a ding-a-ling-ding"

as one would expect from someone of your limited intellect. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-05 09:44:21
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 5 2007, 09:41 AM) [snapback]284469[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif

Please tell me which recruitment company that you are involved with, so that i can pass on to my friends who are Paisley uni graduates never to bother submitting CV's to you as they wont be granted a fair application process as you have your prejudices against them.

Nope-I shall continue to give false hope to those semi-literate misguided wannabe real graduates. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-05 09:57:14
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 5 2007, 09:46 AM) [snapback]284474[/snapback]
sorry arklesTON, but i'm afraid that its because of your inferior education that you have failed to understand the weight that this quote lends to MJ's arguement.

you are clearly an uneducated man of below average intelligence, and as such should not have the cheek to post on MJ's thread. you are lowering the tone of what was otherwise a highly intellectual discussion.

...and you are the wee pr*ck who still can't spell a simple word after you've been taught.

Greacen 2000: a man of modest intellect who believes he's 'IT'.

Shall we christen your affliction 'Paisley University syndrome'? wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-05 10:00:19
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 5 2007, 09:42 AM) [snapback]284470[/snapback]
You quoting Simon and Gurfunkel now?

Get down daddy-o!

Anyway, isn't it 'I'd rather be a sparrow than a snail'?

...I just call them as they go roon ma heid CHC

I'd rather be a spammer than a whale.
mortonjag 2007-06-05 10:02:06
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 5 2007, 09:57 AM) [snapback]284478[/snapback]
If it was compulsary to take then I would have no choice. But don't expect me to be organising a street party with union jack bunting.

If it wasn't compulsary, then no I wouldn't take it.

POOR POOR SHOW INDEED

You could organise a one man sit-in if you really cared that much. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-05 10:06:57
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 5 2007, 10:00 AM) [snapback]284481[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif

You are sinking even further and further.

Criticising someones intelligence because of a few typos here and there. Thats what 14 year old boys do on this website when they're being told to f*** off for bamming someone up.

f*** sake, wave the white flag ya nutter.

laugh.gif You're confusing me with ThornTON, Arky-I NEVER correct spelling EXCEPT when some arsehole's trying to outsmart me.

Mind you I'm not surprised if his composition, grammar, syntax, and spelling appear acceptable to you-ya reprobate. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-05 10:10:49
QUOTE(ianton @ Jun 5 2007, 09:26 AM) [snapback]284461[/snapback]
if the whole setup is such a shambles contact the tele to run a story on it.thats one way of bringing it out in the open.it's probably one of the only ways that will make morton fc or dougie take notice.to be honest i think this is a disgrace and really needs to be aired publicly.

Careful Sir, careful-9 Strathblane Cr. will be on shortly telling you you're a f*ckin' menace, and are trying to singlehandedly bring the club to its knees. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-05 10:22:03
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 5 2007, 10:09 AM) [snapback]284486[/snapback]
ouch, that really hurts MJ laugh.gif

so i'm a wee pr~ck am i? wow i would have expected better from a man of your calibre.

you have never met me, and know nothing about me (or my academic and work background).

i don't believe i'm "it" as you put it. i'm just a regular guy. all i have been doing is voicing my opinion, and you have reacted in an extremely childish fashion. you, on the other hand have consistently made postings which suggest that you think you are somehow superior to other posters on this forum - something i would never do.

you can call my "affliction" anything you want, but my diagnosis is as follows

this messageboard is suffering from a dose of acute MortonJag-itis

Fair enough-I stated that in relative terms Paisley Uni's pish awful, and produced an anecdote and statistics to prove it. I merely stated an incontrovertible fact.

Everything that followed came from posters who for one reason or another couldn't handle it.

I still don't know what 'points' you made which I have failed to answer-I seem to remember you rambling on about recruiting for 'blue chip' companies, whatever the f*ck that's meant to mean.

You now claim that you are just 'a regular guy voicing your opinions', so I take it you're denying any specialist knowledge of the topic under discussion.

Are you not in reality just a mixed up little kid with a bee in his bunnet? smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-05 10:25:58
QUOTE(shedhead @ Jun 5 2007, 10:14 AM) [snapback]284491[/snapback]
Yeah , I'm speaking through experience sadly enough, but everything you've said in this thread rings true to me.

...and you have my admiration for admitting it shedhead-I wonder how many posters are currently in some kind of 'denial'.
mortonjag 2007-06-05 10:35:47
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 5 2007, 10:26 AM) [snapback]284497[/snapback]
EEE. Only "taught" a few subjects the most advanced being Optical and Quantum Electronics III.

I once also did a lab with an individual who is now a professor. At the beginning, he did not realise basic circuits e.g. voltmeter in parallel and ammeter in series. I was really surprised. However, this was a very shrewd appointment by the University as the individual was highly skilled in an area that eectronics was just branching into. Needless to say the guy is eminent in his field and commands huge research contracts and access to excellent facilities. Sometimes the “old crusty†universities do set the pace.

It's well accepted HT by those who DO know, that relative University status depends on and relates to active and successful involvement in research.

Technical colleges traditionally were specialist teaching establishments, and the research done by those more recently conferred University status is scant and of limited quality.
mortonjag 2007-06-05 10:37:14
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 5 2007, 10:16 AM) [snapback]284492[/snapback]
so i'm an arsehole now. wow

by the way, i am not trying to [b]outsmart anyone.[/b] that would suggest that i think i am smarter or somehow better than you, which i am not claiming. (it would be foolish to do so seeing as i do not know anything about you and we have never met).

what i am in fact doing, is disagreeing with you - there is a difference.

Really! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-05 10:58:09
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 5 2007, 10:33 AM) [snapback]284500[/snapback]
Okay then, see below for my first posting on this thread.
i stand corrected on the last point as you have since informed us all on several occasions that you are involved in a bigtime recruitment company, but as you can see from above, all i was trying to say is that when it comes to finding a job (surely the whole point of getting an education) the place your degree is from is simply not the most important factor.

with regards to the blue chip comment, the reason i mentioned the type of roles i was recruiting for was that you made a snobby comment suggesting that i had been recruiting for sainsburys, which i wasnt.

if i was a mixed up little kid with a bee in my bonnet, then i would probably be lowering myself to your level by calling you a geriatric old fart who can't remember his own name, but i'm not - so i will leave the petty name calling to your good self

Let's get one thing straight-I AM a geriatric old fart, and have never denied it.

I did recall your theoretical attempt to make a point by describing 'identical degrees from Glasgow and Paisley', which of course is a contradiction in terms, as the statistics demonstrate.

What you took as a 'snobby' comment was misunderstood. I was merely alluding to the well known fact that major retailers recruit graduates as trainee managers. Those type of employers are only interested in the possession of any old degree, since as you correctly state, graduates subsequently learn the job 'in house'. All the employer wants to ensure is a reasonable level of intellectual ability and self discipline.

Of course that all begs a question-Who in God's name needs a University degree to sell groceries?

Do you still feel wronged? I'm here to help, relaxing in my 'baffies' and flatulent geriatricity. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-05 11:02:30
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 5 2007, 10:59 AM) [snapback]284513[/snapback]
That's two wrongs logic. Just because Russia isn't involved in the middle east doesn't mean they're not involved in shocking acts of their own.

Man's universal inhumanity to man as spun by the relevant media (or lack thereof)!
mortonjag 2007-06-05 11:04:53
QUOTE(shedhead @ Jun 5 2007, 10:46 AM) [snapback]284506[/snapback]
Thanks MJ. I made some stupid choices in my youth but was lucky enough to get it sorted. I just feel fortunate because i've seen a lot of good guys lifes go down the drain .

We've probably all been there in some shape or form, and I too have had problems, now fortunately under control.

I await the speculative comments with a mixture of trepidation and glee. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-05 11:06:58
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 5 2007, 10:10 AM) [snapback]284487[/snapback]
I don't care that much, I find it so ridiculous an idea. There is no way you will get people celebrating britain day in the same way Australians celebrate Australia day for instance.

This will be another of Gordon Brown's pathetic idea's. It's right up there with putting a union jack in your garden idea's.
There is a growing sense of national identity on both sides of the border. The English are more proud to be English than british now.

NOW? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-05 11:26:36
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 5 2007, 11:06 AM) [snapback]284518[/snapback]
by identical, i mean the same titles/joint honours and results - and i think you know fine well thats what i meant.

as i said, i was recruiting for a number of blue chip companies, often for positions with 6 figure salaries, so i wasnt recruiting entry level graduates for the grocery industry. i am talking about professionals of an extremely high calibre. I do not think i misunderstood your comment, i think that you have realised the errors of your ways and are now trying to backtrack and gloss over your snobbery.

and yes, i do still feel wronged. some of the comments you have made towards myself and others are completely out of order.

OH dearie me-I've really offended someone on a wee unofficial fitba' forum-grow up, or pester the administrator-'Please Sir, he's calling me names'.

I did not miss your thrust at all-you butted into a debate about the relative merit of Paisley University, with an entirely misleading and Procrustean agenda, when in fact you now freely confess you were recruiting 'professionals of a very high calibre', to whom, on your recommendation, your masters were prepared to pay six figure sums. Furthermore, did YOU interview them and select them for the posts, or merely pass the data on?

How many of those 'professionals of very high calibre' worth over £100,000.00 a year to their employers did you recruit in total Greacen, and how many were Paisley graduates?
mortonjag 2007-06-05 11:27:55
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 5 2007, 11:25 AM) [snapback]284525[/snapback]
Dylan could have written a song about you. 'Visions of Mentaljag.' the title, with the line 'geriatricity howls in his bowels'. laugh.gif

The answer my friend was blowin' in the wind! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-05 11:32:34
QUOTE(NonTon @ Jun 5 2007, 11:12 AM) [snapback]284520[/snapback]
Did you set wheely bins alight and get high off the fumes?

I've always wanted to meet someone who did that laugh.gif

I wheely have to say they hadn't been invented when I was your age! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-05 11:58:04
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 5 2007, 11:40 AM) [snapback]284533[/snapback]
regarding my role in the recruitment process, i am not going to claim to have been a high flier. what i did do was assess job applications and CV's, select candidates for interview, interview candidates, and whittle them down to a short list, which i then put forward to my client for the final decision. having spoke to these decision makers on a daily basis, i was asked questions about candidates experience dozens of times a day. not once do i recall recieving any feedback regarding the institution their qualifications were from, nor do i ever recall that being the deciding factor in what did or didn't get them the job.

sorry for "butting in" to your debate. i thought this was an open forum that anyone could post on.

as for my "agenda" being "procrustean and misleading", would you care to tell me exactly how this is so? i would say that in fact i posted on here with no agenda other than to share my experience and add to the discussion. i am certainly not trying to twist this arguement in any particular direction. there is no hidden agenda!

Greacen I apologise. I have been jousting with you on the basis that you were a person with experience, and authority, when in fact you were merely acting as a 'filter', to create a short list for the decision makers.

What still puzzles me is the very foundation of your argument- your repeated claim that the qualifications, and their origin had no influence on the ultimate decision, when that was made by others.

Unless you were privy to detailed information on the final selection of candidates, your assertion that the degree and its source had no bearing on the final decision is clearly inaccurate.
mortonjag 2007-06-05 12:06:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 5 2007, 11:37 AM) [snapback]284532[/snapback]
This bloody forum's becoming addictive. Maybe some of us should cut down. Seek therapy, counselling or whatever. biggrin.gif

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You've got me thinking DE-that would be easy money-counselling for footie forum addicts-there must be thoosans in Glesga alane-fancy designing a wee bothy somewhere and we'll go haufers on the profits ? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-05 12:22:53
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 5 2007, 12:06 PM) [snapback]284543[/snapback]
you clearly have shown no respect for any experience and authority i might or might not have.

i am not about to explain how recruitment consultancy works to you MJ, i would assume that you already know.

For your information i had a close relationship with the decision makers, and guess what? they told me exactly why candidates were or werent succesful at the final hurdle. you see theres this thing called feedback - you give it to candidates to let them know how the interview went and whether they got the job or not.

I do not automatically give respect to anything or anybody Greacen-that's the stuff of children. Having said that, I've come to respect and value the input of a number of fellow posters.

If we're going to go any further down the road of mutual self respect, you'll have to be a bit more realistic. How do you KNOW that the feedback you got was honest. For all you know the job may ultimately have gone to the candidate with the nicest pair of tits. Would that have been the reason given to you?

Surely you haven't spent all this time merely trying to say that a degree ain't everything! rolleyes.gif

You objected to my 'Sainsbury' allusion. I assume then that the qualifications you were screening, WERE relevant to the posts applied for. IF SO, my original premise stands-a first from one of the established Universities would be significantly more valuable than one from a jumped up 'tech'.
mortonjag 2007-06-05 12:24:00
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jun 5 2007, 12:10 PM) [snapback]284544[/snapback]
Great wind up mortonjag. You had me going for a moment wink.gif

If for one moment I thought you were serious I would love to be at that meeting of minds. You patronizingly shaking the hand of Mark the dunderheid (the lad that went to school with your not too bright son the one with a chip on his shoulder) and saying (in a supercilious way) well done Mark for a numpty you have done extremely well. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Then picking you up off the floor, after he thumps you rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2007-06-05 12:29:14 What's with yon freemason's bit BTW? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-05 13:13:29
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 5 2007, 12:48 PM) [snapback]284558[/snapback]
i'm not saying that you should automatically respect me - you don't even know me. i would however expect you to respect my opinion. i respect your opinion, although i do not agree with everything you say (i do agree with some of it)
i.e. the few that agree with you
when you have an ongoing relationship with a client, it is in their best interests to make sure that the recruiter has an excellent understanding of the type of candidate they are looking for, so they are in fact extremely frank with their feedback. if the university the degree came from was one of the most important factors, they would make sure i knew that was the case, so as not to waste my time and their time putting forward people who will have no chance.
it wouldn't be out of the ordinary for a client to comment if a candidate i sent was "a bit of a stunner", but it would be highly inappropriate for them to tell me that they had made their decision on this basis. even if they did do so, they would have obvious reasons not to tell me (i.e. they would be admitting that they were guilty of sexual discrimination, which could leave them open to court proceedings).

if on the other hand the client made their final decision based on were their degree came from, what possible reasons could there be for them not telling me so?
i started off saying that where a degree comes from is not of the greatest importance to employers, but this now seems to have evolved into a rather tiresome, pointless arguement where i say something, you slag it off, i try to respond in a reasonable manner, you slag off my response and so forth ad infinitum ad nauseam.
yes, they were.
going back to my original post - in my experience, no they weren't

Pinocchio Greacen-you're now becoming tiresome-everything neatly fits your argument, and NOT ONE SOLITARY NAME OR EXAMPLE.

You're clearly of at least average intelligence, but don't come over as the sharpest tool in the box, yet you talk in vague and grandiose terms about your confidential tetes a tete with the 'big knobs' who hung on your every word-are you SURE it wasn't you who made all those decisions.

Now-I'm not deliberately being nasty, but play it by the rules. Nothing in life is ever so clear cut as you make it out to be.

If you insist that a 'first' from Glasgow was 'in your experience' no more likely to be successful than a 'first' from Paisley IN A SPECIFIC VOCATIONAL FIELD you are just a liar in my book unless you can provide confirmatory data. You may not like it Pinocchio,Greacen, but it just isn't like that in the real world.

As I said-examples please-we get plenty of fairy stories from the ThornTONs of the board.
mortonjag 2007-06-05 13:30:54
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 5 2007, 12:59 PM) [snapback]284565[/snapback]
can you get a degree in that from glasgow yooni? tongue.gif

COSCA first Greacen-three terms of evening classes at various venues-Strathclyde, or Caley when I did it 12 years ago at the former, and it was well accepted that the Caley course was 'crap'!

Then a two year course to obtain the Diploma.

I currently offer addiction counselling, but have no experience counselling footie forum addicts.
mortonjag 2007-06-05 13:40:38
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 5 2007, 01:28 PM) [snapback]284581[/snapback]
...and so it continues!

you know fine well that i can't name names.

if you choose to believe that i am a liar then that is your prerogative. i offered my opinion on things to contribute to the debate, not so that i could prove myself to you.

i am still waiting for you to respond to any of the questions i have asked you. "i am right because i am right and i am smarter than you and you're a liar" isnt exactly the most convincing of arguments.

please do not twist my words MJ. what i said was that more important than institution, is experience and how the person comes across in an interview situation. no more, no less.

In that case you'd be just as well picking folks up of the street. The level of professional attainment in a vocational subject IS extremely relevant in MY experience. Of course academic qualifications are never a guarantee, but in MY experience, other things being equal, there is no substitute for intelligence.

The clever kids choose to go to the 'good' Unis-plain and simple.

I still await your examples with suitably disguised names, just as doctors frequently do to teach case studies.

Ultimately, we are both agreed on one thing-those are just our respective opinions. The league tables I published are factual.

Lastly I still don't know what specific questions you asked which I've 'not answered'.
mortonjag 2007-06-05 16:33:29
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 5 2007, 01:58 PM) [snapback]284608[/snapback]
i'm not going to go back and quote one of my own posts again MJ.

to be quite honest, i have heard enough from you on this subject to know that you have failed to grasp the relatively simple point i have made. as i stated earlier, i realise that you want to have a different argument but i am not interested chappy

your factual league tables are of no relevance to my point, as i was talking about the recruitment of experienced professionals - not the recruitment of new graduates. i have very little experience of recruiting for graduate jobs (generally they are low salary > low fee, so my company did not seek to recruit for these types of positions), but i would imagine that if recruiting a new graduate, the qualification will be looked at more closely since there is no experience or track record to speak of. i said that personality and experience are more important than institution. clearly when you take experience out of the equation, the other factors will take on more importance.

Then I accept we've been talking at cross purposes. I think what you should have said was that a University degree, is completely irrelevant in your line of recruitment, since all that matters is experience and the ability to put on a good show at interview. It might be reasonable to ask why University qualifications were considered at all in the initial vetting process.

I'd still suggest that, given the somewhat arbitrary nature of interviews, where equal experience and 'identical' degrees exist , perceptive employers do look more closely at the 'identical' nature of the qualifications.

I concede, however, that academic ability does not necessarily equate to creating good impressions at interview, any more than the latter will ultimately compensate for lesser intellectual ability.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 05:20:44
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 5 2007, 09:19 PM) [snapback]284813[/snapback]
I have no idea now (about the law course!). However, twenty years ago (christ) Glasgow was the preferred choice to study law.

How things change HT! My younger son was accepted for Law at both, in 1996, but chose Strathclyde as at that time Glasgow had failed to keep pace with change. I've no idea what the current state of play is.

Incidentally he took a 'First', and having completed his traineeship, was 'headhunted' by two or three of the top Scottish Law Firms.

He chose instead to work with the SCCRC in Glasgow, where he earns the princely sum (for a top quality graduate) of some 25k. It was HIS choice, and he's very content with it. I'm certain there are many 'year 2000' Pishley Tech. 'ordinary' graduates who are earning a few bob more than that now, and good luck to them.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 05:39:08
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 5 2007, 02:55 PM) [snapback]284639[/snapback]
yip you got it, City Park (formerly known as Wills tobacco) is where i work.

i know the place you mean on Duke Street - it is derelict. have always wondered what that place is whenever i have passed by it - its a pretty impressive old building. just googled it there and found this

great eastern hotel

The Great Eastern had unparalleled fame as a hostel for 'down and outs', and compared to many hostels of the 70's and 80's the residents at least had their own rooms. In the infamous Kingston Hall hostel, a couple of hundred yards west of the bridge 'on Paisley Road', they had to lie in rows of sleeping bags-I guess there were about 50 or 60 guys in that one big room of a night. I was called out many a time, and will never forget literally having to step over rows of snoring and often stinking men, and the well nigh impossibility of performing an adequate examination by torchlight!

It's nice to hear of good old Dennistoun hauling itself up to 'West End' levels Greacen. Both of my sons were born in Duke St. hospital, and as a student, my daughter lived in Fisher Court-just adjacent to the old hospital building.

Neither of my boys is of course as famous as Marie Lawrie!
mortonjag 2007-06-06 05:43:59
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jun 5 2007, 05:09 PM) [snapback]284711[/snapback]
What, wheels ??? unsure.gif wink.gif

They HAD been invented, but were still in their infancy.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 05:48:09
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 5 2007, 05:51 PM) [snapback]284724[/snapback]
Not at all .
I had given my nephew a few tips on how to endear yourself to opposing defenders .
To my surprise and disbelief he took up the challenge and nearly caused a riot up at Montrose . laugh.gif
I only played rugby as I am absolutely sh*t at football , when I was younger and we played in the street some coats got picked before I did . sad.gif laugh.gif

I wish I could have swapped places chrissiboi. We ONLY had Rugby and Cricket. I detested the former and loved football. We used to rebel when the Gym teacher was reffing the weekly practice matches-sneaked round the side of the dressing rooms and played 'footie' with a Rugby ball. One such sinner was Jackie Copland who went on to have a fairly successful career in soccer!
mortonjag 2007-06-06 05:54:41
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 5 2007, 09:03 PM) [snapback]284791[/snapback]
O aye, blame us for your gene defects.
I believe it is a Celtic defect. ohmy.gif

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mortonjag 2007-06-06 05:59:20 Claimed I had a 'first' from Paisley Uni when in fact all I had was an Ordinary from Cambridge.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 06:12:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 6 2007, 06:03 AM) [snapback]284963[/snapback]
did they see right through you ?

surely your claim was far too outrageous to be plausible.

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did you not look too old to have graduated from Paisley Uni ??

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Actually NewTon, they fell for it 'hook line and sinker'.

have YOU ever drived a bin lorry BTW?
mortonjag 2007-06-06 06:13:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 6 2007, 06:10 AM) [snapback]284964[/snapback]
Celtic defect ??

A euphemism for Gordon Strachan ?
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The ginger whinger.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 06:17:11
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 6 2007, 01:07 AM) [snapback]284933[/snapback]
The media just keep the story going and going.

I wish they'd give it a rest sad.gif

Too many folk doing media studies at jumped up techs perhaps? dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-06 06:23:05
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 5 2007, 10:49 PM) [snapback]284885[/snapback]
Haha, classic. You're like the guy who claims he's shagged ten birds in P5 laugh.gif

Tell you what though - I'll show you how to pull birds when you're old enough to get into the pubs. wink.gif

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pull BIRDS young motor mouth? rolleyes.gif -legs maybe-yer wire definitely, but wi' a heid an mooth like yours Mick any 'bird' you pull must be dafter and uglier than you.

That's not to say that I'm denying your ability-merely worrying about your increased risk of contracting STD.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 06:25:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 6 2007, 06:22 AM) [snapback]284969[/snapback]
have [b]YOU ever drived a bin lorry BTW?[/b]
That reads like Paisley Uni grammar to me.

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mortonjag 2007-06-06 06:30:46 'During my ownership the vehicle was regularly serviced using quality fluids'.


This one's an unconscious humourist indeed-he'd have been better employed selling his wares to a sperm bank.

'Quality fluids' indeed-more like PISH if you ask me. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-06 06:34:55
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 5 2007, 11:33 PM) [snapback]284899[/snapback]
What is britishness ? How do you define what that means ? How does it differ from Englishness for example ?

I remember the Trafalgar Day celebrations on TV. They said we were to wake up to a british breakfast to start the day's celebrations. But what is a simple thing like a british breakfast ? Is it the same as an English breakfast or an English breakfast with a leek and haggis.
If this nonsense proves one thing, it proves you can't define the Scots, English and Welsh as one people

An unholy trinity CLAYMORE C*CK-three Nations-one Great Britain.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 06:40:17 That was a vibrant Parish-Fr Nugent was responsible for a huge amount of 'good work', which of course has been conveniently forgotten.

The Church has got this one spot on IMHO.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 06:48:10 and to our own NonTon, congratulations. BTW mate did you ever get my p.m?

On the day you were born, Her Royal Majesty stripped ex Champion Jockey Lester Piggott of his O.B.E., when he was jailed for tax evasion.

D-day is now 63 years old.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 06:56:36
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 5 2007, 01:15 PM) [snapback]284575[/snapback]
so in the absence of fact, would you say its better to assume he is an alchoholic?

In the presence of FACTS, Greacen-his irregular behaviour and comments in public, the club's obvious concerns, and statements referring to 'personal problems', and 'stress', I am convinced he has a serious psychological problem.

I don't assume he's an alcoholic, but alcoholism is very high on the 'probables' list.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 07:00:25
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 5 2007, 01:29 PM) [snapback]284582[/snapback]
I'm not privy to anything, I'm just saying that I think the assumptions being made by some are totally unsubstantiated - and then others take these rumours as fact. I think you are way off the mark.

...and I think he may well be suffering from the illness of alcoholism. IF he is, the gratuitous attempts by some to protect him from that 'Stigma' just shows how little we've advanced in the understanding of such a common ailment.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 07:04:10
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jun 3 2007, 03:20 PM) [snapback]283558[/snapback]
Covered in concrete and immobile?

You can't stick pins in concrete ThornTON.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 07:09:05
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Jun 5 2007, 01:34 PM) [snapback]284586[/snapback]
Ach I might have known "The Jag" would take any opportunity to have a pop at DDFR and McInally.
I don't know whether to be honoured or disappointed that he's also taking a pop at me now ohmy.gif .
The coaching/ scouting business has been done to death on here many times with all different points of view. We have had disgruntled parents, disgruntled players, disgruntled coaches and disgruntled fans.
Complaints about players kit, first aid provision, training methods, training facilities,poor coaching, transport, lack of scouts, lack of meetings with parents, lack of meetings with local clubs blah blah blah.
In fact you name it we have had it all discussed at one point or another. It usually raises it's ugly head after somebody has been dropped from the team or in this instance when it would appear the boys are considered not good enough etc. I'm not saying this is the situation here but it's happened in the past.

We would all like a good scouting and coaching system but in case anybody didn't know, when Joe was running the youth set up it was costing over £60,000 a year. The club could not afford to pay that towards the youth system. If anyone would like to offer up the £60k I'm sure it would be gratefully received.
I'm sure there are problems with the current setup , there are always problems running any youth set up and a lot of the bitching usually stems from the parents not the boys themselves. I'm sure there are problems but none are insurmountable and maybe DDFR needs to walk away altogether and let someone else organise his youth set up.
But airing on the message board is going to do nothing to fix it unless you put ideas forward that are not going to cost the club money that can be spent buying players now.
That doesn't mean to say that I'm not in favour of a youth set up , far from it, but everybody needs to keep their feet on the ground when it comes to what we can actually afford given the money available and how its organised given the volunteers who are available or are allowed to help.

Aye right.

Who's going to invest a substantial sum without having a say in the running of the club? So DDFR can't afford 60 grand for something fundamental to our future, but NO WAY will he let anybody get a sniff of control at any f*cking price.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 07:14:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 6 2007, 07:10 AM) [snapback]284980[/snapback]
D-day is now 63 years old.

Lest we forget.

Indeed NewTon.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 07:57:11
QUOTE(marx @ Jun 6 2007, 07:30 AM) [snapback]284985[/snapback]
A chinese meal and 3 barcadi breezers, there you have an aphrodisiac. tongue.gif

...gives you enough courage to say Chow Mien? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-06 08:00:38
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 6 2007, 07:41 AM) [snapback]284989[/snapback]
A New York man has sued the maker of the health drink Boost Plus, saying the vitamin-enriched beverage gave him an erection that would not go away.

Christopher Woods said he bought the beverage, which is made by the Swiss-based Novartis pharmaceutical company, on June 5, 2004, and drank it.

He woke up the next morning "with an erection that would not subside" and sought treatment of the condition, called severe priapism, court papers say.

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http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/06/06/1181084319954.html

He's obviously 'hard up', and who knows, Novartis may offer an ex gratia payment for the publicity!

FFS maybe they PUT HIM UP to it. cool.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-06 08:46:32
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 6 2007, 08:27 AM) [snapback]285004[/snapback]
Depends who you mean by my employer - companies have all these different levels of responsibility and everything like that.

The big boss at the top would be moaning about another holiday - but who gies a f*ck what he thinks?

My team manager on the other hand, would be happy for one himself.

FFS a call centre Micky boy-probably in that daft Sky Park-thought you had more in you than that!
mortonjag 2007-06-06 08:50:36
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 6 2007, 08:46 AM) [snapback]285014[/snapback]
Who writes your jokes? Have you got a team there working on them?

Seriously, you're on fire. You should write a sitcom.

Micky boy-if you wish to re-apply, I for one will be delighted to supply a glowing reference.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 08:52:00
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jun 6 2007, 07:44 AM) [snapback]284990[/snapback]
Didn't have you pegged as a civil servant as well wink.gif

Good Luck Manky. I'm interviewing over the next few days. I can't see your name on the list

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mortonjag 2007-06-06 08:54:34
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 6 2007, 08:48 AM) [snapback]285015[/snapback]
Call centre my arse laugh.gif

I work in insurance, let's put it that way. Without giving too much away, I send out statements to pensioners like yourself wink.gif

Got you now Mick-a subsidiary of the good old ROYAL bank too-hee hee-I used to do sessions in Corunna House!
mortonjag 2007-06-06 09:04:38
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 6 2007, 08:56 AM) [snapback]285019[/snapback]
Close but nae cigar.

Hee hee, and I've got four years' 'no claims'.

BTW what's wrong with working in a call centre?
mortonjag 2007-06-06 09:06:41
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 6 2007, 08:48 AM) [snapback]285015[/snapback]
Call centre my arse laugh.gif

I work in insurance, let's put it that way. Without giving too much away, I send out statements to pensioners like yourself wink.gif

WHAT you're about to chuck a good job for PROSTITUTION-shame on you and your house.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 09:11:42
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 6 2007, 08:58 AM) [snapback]285020[/snapback]
I think your attitude shows why you are unlikely ever to be in the upper echelons of a business. You appear to have the mindset common amongst trade unionists of the 70s when it was all "them and us".

Us more modern and enlightened businessmen realise that if you employ the best people and make sure that they are well-rewarded (and it's not just in terms of hard cash by the way), the whole operation is more successful. It's not about keeping the workers oppressed and docile....

BTW on the subject of holidays, my staff get 10 days public holidays per annum plus 23 days other holidays. How does everyone else compare? I know in the public sector, some folk seem to work 33 days and have the rest off, and students obviously do quite well, but what's the average?

My partner works for a well known supplier of Electricity, Alibi. Not only does she fare much more poorly, but she simply gets an annual allocation of days. If she wants to take public holidays they come off the total. Furthermore, the staff have to apply in advance for time off, so if you're lucky enough to come into a few bob and want a 'week off' within the next few, you've 'nae chance'.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 09:21:34
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 6 2007, 09:15 AM) [snapback]285028[/snapback]
They seem like pretty irritating places to work - I mean you're always having to talk to people.

I know loads of people working in that TSC place, or whatever it's called - you rarely hear a good word about it.

It obviously depends what you're doing and for whom-I just thought your sweeping 'call centre my arse', was a wee bit denigrating of such employees.

Incidentally my daughter worked part time on a help line for teenagers with sexual problems (in that Sky Park place).

You've never spoken with her, by any chance?
mortonjag 2007-06-06 09:23:20
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Jun 6 2007, 09:03 AM) [snapback]285022[/snapback]
In blaming `us` that would also include myself blink.gif right where`s my damned axe!!!!! time for a bit of harmless pilliging fun....
Recessive.....RECESSIVE????? how dare we be called recessive!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Ginger heid, carrot nose. Pull the plug, and away it goes!
mortonjag 2007-06-06 09:26:35 [quote name='Sick Mick' date='Jun 6 2007, 08:15 AM' post='284995']
You're right Mortonjag-I DO neeed help.

£60 for the first consultation Mick-thereafter by arrangement!
mortonjag 2007-06-06 09:29:31
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 6 2007, 09:26 AM) [snapback]285032[/snapback]
I think she was the one who kept raking through our bins? I've shouted at her, but I don't think I've ever spoken to her.

Just be careful she doesn't find another of those missing CD's with details of the bank's customers! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-06 09:31:09
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 6 2007, 09:27 AM) [snapback]285033[/snapback]
I'd rather be shot in the face than end up in the "upper echelons of a business"
too much information.

are you still hoping to be a cabin boy ?

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I heard his ambition was to become a c*ckswain NewTon, or should that be c*ck's wain.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 09:36:52 For the first time my brother and I have applied jointly (sent two application forms) for season tickets.

Up 'til now we just sat where it suited us at most games. The beauty of having them is that you can arrive pretty late and still know you'll get no hassle. I just hope the vantage point's OK.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 09:52:20
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 6 2007, 09:37 AM) [snapback]285041[/snapback]
Does £60 get me the whole "Mortonjag Starter Pack"?

I mean, is it all inclusive - does that get me the binoculars, rohypnol and maps of the areas surrounding Primary Schools?

Flunitrazepam would make you too tired to suss out your targets Mick-I thought it was sex therapy you needed.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 09:59:43
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 6 2007, 09:33 AM) [snapback]285038[/snapback]
Ah God - you two make a cracking double team.

You'd be like those two auld c*nts off the muppets...if they were paedophiles.

Seriously though, write a sitcom.

Those two were my all time favourites-just ahead of Animal.

BTW do you really believe NewTON's a 'paedo' too?
mortonjag 2007-06-06 10:00:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 6 2007, 09:38 AM) [snapback]285042[/snapback]
Naw, mortonjag, he is so c***sure of himself he may well be a c***atrice.

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Sounds like a scar on yer tadger!
mortonjag 2007-06-06 10:03:30
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 6 2007, 09:56 AM) [snapback]285047[/snapback]
You're actually getting quite depressing
Gidday Sick,

Why are you so easily depressed ?

Don't panic - just count the days.

When your current contract is finished and you become a cabin boy you probably won't have Internet access ... you lucky lad.

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..but you'll have access in abundance to all sorts of nautical nooks and crannies. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-06 10:09:38
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 6 2007, 10:03 AM) [snapback]285053[/snapback]
Ah Lulu - she is probably closer to your age than mine, but she still does it for me. don't know if she's been getting plastic surgery or what, but she still looks great. Shame about the unbelievably annoying anglo-american accent which alternates between weegie, bbc english, and trashy american.

as for the up and coming Dennistoun, i don't know how i feel about this trend to be honest, i mean it is nice to have a good choice of places to go for lunch, but i don't know if i am a fan of this yuppy-isation of our city streets - boutiques, delis and coffee shops on every corner - meanwhile the local post offices, butchers and bakers are all being closed down. at the same times, buildings which used to be used in industry are being converted into trendy "loft appartments" worth quarter of a mil upwards. where are all the jobs??? who are these people who are buying this property???

this is all great if it is for the common good, but i think that social inequality is huge these days, and the many who are on low incomes are being marginalised by the few who have hefty wads. I can envisage a not too distant future where the working classes all stay in grey concrete, out-of-town housing projects(out of sight out of mind), while the city gents on good money all stay in their nice sandstone flats and houses and loft conversions, shopping in their swanky boutiques, drinking imported beer in their trendy bars, while supping a poncey peppermint frappe.

I agree in general. My perception of modern city life and culture is that we now have an effectively classless society, where money is the 'be all, and end all' of everything.

Sadly the 'City Gents' are a dying breed-in that they often were 'gentlemen'.

This nouveau riche lot, a large proportion of whom have humble origins, often singularly lack an ounce of breeding or 'common decency'.

mortonjag 2007-06-06 10:11:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 6 2007, 10:03 AM) [snapback]285051[/snapback]
the dangers of mouse traps.

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'The best laid schemes'...-as the Bard opined!
mortonjag 2007-06-06 10:13:09
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 6 2007, 10:10 AM) [snapback]285057[/snapback]
Mmm hmm - he doesn't even live in Australia either, he lives in Thailand.

Sometimes you talk like yer heid's up yer 'Gary', Mick.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 10:15:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 6 2007, 10:11 AM) [snapback]285058[/snapback]
what is your secret to a happy relationship?
Having common interests ... we are both going to miss you, Sick.
When is your last day ... 29 June ?

Should we bake you a cake ?

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Carrying coals to Newcastle methinks-Mick's the masterbaker supreme.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 10:16:55
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 6 2007, 10:15 AM) [snapback]285063[/snapback]
Sick,

do you have time to come down next month between engagements ?

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FFS he's been drinking that priapism juice too! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-06 10:20:23
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 6 2007, 09:45 AM) [snapback]285044[/snapback]
Good Luck on your interview. I had an interview six months ago where the two ladies interviewing me sat across from me with a large window behind them. There was so much going on outside I could not stop being distracted by this, I felt the job slipping from under me as my eyes darted past them each time someone walked past. Needless to say I didnt get it. Maybe it was a test to see if I was easily distracted sad.gif

What was SO fascinating about people LL..do tell!
mortonjag 2007-06-06 10:23:59
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 6 2007, 10:01 AM) [snapback]285050[/snapback]
Sounds like he has a social conscience and that's no bad thing. Take after his old boy perhaps?

He was always very conscientious-thinking about how others felt and trying to help. He was deputy head boy of his school-probably for that reason only, as he was pretty naff at sport. Sometimes he's just too hard on himself, and I constantly tease him about 'burning his arse , sitting on the fence.

Not like his evil old c*nt father in the slightest DE. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-06 10:26:32
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 6 2007, 10:22 AM) [snapback]285067[/snapback]
Seriously, you boys are a regular Torvill and Dean. .

can't but think you set me up here you little tw*t, but-

You're skating on thin ice!
mortonjag 2007-06-06 10:29:21
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 6 2007, 10:23 AM) [snapback]285068[/snapback]
I'll leave you two lovebirds to yourselves.

Only 10.28 a.m., and he's off for a J Arthur again!
mortonjag 2007-06-06 10:33:32
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 6 2007, 10:27 AM) [snapback]285074[/snapback]
yes. class division these days is as simple as the "haves" and "have nots". and is based purely on income, rather than social standing or family background, or industry/profession. its all about money.
i was in the extremely poncey and expensive "all bar one" the other day and it was full of complete posing w@nker spiv types, who i was made to feel like one of, since i was wearing a suit. i would be happier supping a pint of ale in the scotia any day.
not sure that i would attach much significance to "breeding", and i am all for the idea of people from humble origins making good of themselves, but i would say that many of the types you speak of do singularly lack an ounce of "taste"
anyway, back to cycling...bikes anyone?

I cycled all over Scotland in my teens and twenties-several camping holidays, with two heavy pannier bags over the back mudguard.

Now I just go over to Pollok park, where on a good day you can thoroughly enjoy gettting 'on yer bike'.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 10:43:18
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 6 2007, 10:37 AM) [snapback]285080[/snapback]
sad.gif Hubby left you hanging? Now that I think on it, Newton hasn't said anything for awhile - so that's what he's away for then?

Are you calling my partner a w*nker unsure.gif doesn't say much for me Mick!

Anyway did you manage without yer copy of the Sun?
mortonjag 2007-06-06 10:48:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 6 2007, 10:37 AM) [snapback]285081[/snapback]
it will be a sad day when Sick's contract expires in 3 weeks.

Is he being replaced by a machine ??

huh.gif

Young Mick built a wanking machine-
'Twas gaudily striped white and green.
At the fifty third stroke
the bloody thing broke.
Now his tadger's a sight to be seen.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 10:50:01
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 6 2007, 10:41 AM) [snapback]285084[/snapback]
Gidday Crikey Chopper Steve Irwin Shrimp on the Barbie, Newton

it will be a sad day when Sick's contract expires in 3 weeks.

You seem to be taking an awful lot of interest in my personal affairs...

You'd think you'd be less obvious about obtaining your facts - are you not only just off the Sex Offenders Register?

In that much of a hurry to get back on??

huh.gif huh.gif

Are you calling my partner a Paedo? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-06 10:52:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 6 2007, 10:47 AM) [snapback]285088[/snapback]
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Sorry, Sick, I thought you were having a fag ???
huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif

There'll be a whole pack of fags waiting to get him the minute he 'hello sailors' it up that gangplank.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 10:54:46
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 6 2007, 10:46 AM) [snapback]285087[/snapback]
The 13 ft beachcaster has been brought out to play.

And the mackerel never get the message.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 10:55:58
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 6 2007, 10:30 AM) [snapback]285077[/snapback]
What's not, they move! smile.gif

Not the dead ones, unless it's been a misdiagnosis!
mortonjag 2007-06-06 11:01:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 6 2007, 10:57 AM) [snapback]285098[/snapback]
you are a bad man, mortonjag.

We both know that SM is a smoker.

What sort of fag's he into NewTon? I bet it's those wee ones where you've hardly had time to get your mouth round the tip, and it's all over.

There again he's probably a past master of the art of 'rolling a fag'.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 11:03:25
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 6 2007, 10:58 AM) [snapback]285099[/snapback]
Any more of it and tonight you will be swimming with the fishes.

and wearing a pair of concrete wellies, to boot.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 11:06:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 6 2007, 10:54 AM) [snapback]285093[/snapback]
Gidday Sick,

I am worried about you.

Are you a victim of office automation - being replaced by a machine to send out customer statements ?

Can you get any support from your union ?

How many of you are going to be on the streets ?
huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif
sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

If Micky boy's caught on the streets where he works, he'll be lifted for Kerb Crawling.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 11:34:53
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Jun 6 2007, 11:07 AM) [snapback]285106[/snapback]
As you rightly said it's horses for courses. Just because it's a traditional house of learning or a new wanabee doesn't mean it isn't the right place to be and this is something that MJ seems to gloss over.

For example if you want to do AI then depending on the specific subset you should choose between Heriot Watt or Edinburgh (both are recognized internationally by the way). Mmm new (1966) school / old school? I mentioned elsewhere Glasgow Tech was the place for opthalmic optics, while for an engineering course Paisley produced the first rate graduates who knew actually how to apply their knowledge in a real world setting. As for computing - Glasgow might have improved now, but in the 80's they were still using IBM punch cards while everyone else had these fancy 80C51 microprocessor based things! What were they called - oh that's right personal computers.

But I forget my place, I only attended Glasgow and Paisley Colleges (of Technology) how do I dare question my betters! tongue.gif

rolleyes.gif ScotinBelgie

'Fraid you've got it SO wrong Roberto.

What distresses me is that the system has been totally f*cked by political interference, so much so that a 'University Degree', has been utterly devalued.

People who could NEVER have aspired to an old fashioned degree are exiting tarted up Techs in their droves, only to face the stark reality that their piece of paper is just that.

It's an evil not of their making, but some of them resent any form of devaluation of their earnest endeavour, and see themselves upsides Oxbridge.

Horses for courses indeed, and preferably minus the blinkers.

As I said before, 'Facts are cheils that winna ding'.


I thought I'd better prevent all those blistered fingers by adding that the top of the bottom is frequently better than the bottom of the top.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 11:37:34
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 6 2007, 11:13 AM) [snapback]285110[/snapback]
Good, now you are catching my drift.

Eek, I am getting pulled into the octogenarian whirlpool.

Welcome to the venerable vortex.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 11:39:13
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 6 2007, 11:05 AM) [snapback]285104[/snapback]
Old Mortonjag was creeping around,
Hiding in the bushes Saint Mary's playground.
He panted, w*nked and sputtered,
the kids looked on bemused as he muttered.
Then they all shrieked with scared, confused cries,
as the Jag whipped off his Priest's disguise.

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mortonjag 2007-06-06 11:47:45
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 6 2007, 11:45 AM) [snapback]285127[/snapback]
mortonjag, what is your professional opinion of Sick ?

Is there ANY hope ?

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I wouldn't like to make an internet diagnosis NewTon-suffice to say that Wordsworth and Byron are in no danger whatsoever! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-06 12:11:43
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 6 2007, 11:45 AM) [snapback]285128[/snapback]
some (i think most) would say that equality of opportunity is desirable, and more people being able to get an education is a good thing. clearly if this is to be the case, it would never be possible to house all of these new students in the old universities, thus creating a demand for more institutions.

i understand your assertion that more graduates = devaluation of a degree. this is a fair point and pretty obvious.

would you suggest that it would be better to go back to the days when only "the cream" of the crop could go to uni?

If so, then how do you propose our government goes about replacing all the 1000's of jobs in industry which school leavers used to have waiting for them? no factories, mines, mills or yards any more i'm afraid. so what next for the people who arent smart enough to go to a "real uni"?

I'm afraid I can't answer the question Greacen-a short sighted Educational policy has caused a long term problem in a country whose socio economic structure has turned upside down in just two generations.

One point I'll make very forcibly is that equality of opportunity in Scottish Further Education has been around for just as long. The frequent choice of the old 'working class' to put the kids out to work, (and to live in a Council House), was just a fact of life. It was the done thing, so you did it.

The old days when 'only the cream of the crop' could enter Further Education, are indeed pretty old by any standards.

My Dad, who died two years ago at the age of 85 was Dux of Greenock High School. His parents lived in Holmscroft St., and were anything but wealthy. My Dad used to get irritated when people whinged about this issue. He pointed out that several of his working class fellows at Greenock High went on to Uni-on the strength of bursaries, parental vision, and some sacrifice of 'luxuries'.

By the time I left school, each and every kid who was bright enough, and whose folks wanted it enough, could get to university. The current loans are FAR more punitive than the grants which were available to us.

I've already had this argument no time ago-at least three quarters of my fellows in the Arts faculty came from ordinary backgrounds. In medicine the ratio was different-the old school tie was still in some evidence, but at least 30% of the students would have described themselves as 'working class'.

Two of us, by strange coincidence, had lived across the street from each other in 'the Port'. My Dad was a poorly paid teacher who rented the tenement flat from Lithgows. Andy's father was a craftsman in the yards.

mortonjag 2007-06-06 13:14:31
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 6 2007, 01:01 PM) [snapback]285151[/snapback]
Oh FFS, I knew when you started this dscussion you would get it back to the 30% fact. I am just surprised it took eight pages of preamble.

Hobby horse, devil's advocate, or just flying in the face of fact HT.

Were YOU there?
mortonjag 2007-06-06 13:18:40
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 6 2007, 11:23 AM) [snapback]285117[/snapback]
MJ, you need to have a word in the shell-like of your friend. It is great that Strathclyde go from strength to strength but how some departments at Glasgow are allowed to under-perform is perplexing. Even now when having dealings with the UoG the rate of pace is painful. I could start to go into a lot of detail, but what is the point. Some at the UoG are set in their ways.

There might be a point HT-my 'friend' would no doubt agree with much of what you say, but Rome was not built in a day.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 13:21:30
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 6 2007, 01:18 PM) [snapback]285161[/snapback]
I am beginning to feel as if I was. All we have is your memory. I rest my case.

Haw, haud on-ye've no MADE a case.

Why is it so important to make a p***k of yourself HT-you normally come over as very reasonable-did they refuse you entry to Medical School? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-06 13:25:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 6 2007, 11:56 AM) [snapback]285134[/snapback]
With Sick's desire to go to sea to see the world, the following may be appropriate:
The boy stood on the burning deck
Whence all but he had fled
The flame that lit the battle's wreck
Shone round him o'er the dead.

The boy stood on the burning deck
Eating a tuppenny Walls,
A bit dropped down his trouser leg
And paralysed his balls.

The boy stood on the burning deck,
Eating red hot scallops.
One fell down his trouser leg,
And burned him on the....ankles.

Sick Mick stood on the burning deck
his dick obscured by blisters
He couldn't get his y-fronts on
so had to use his sisters.

mortonjag 2007-06-06 13:32:36
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jun 6 2007, 01:08 PM) [snapback]285156[/snapback]
Oooh obviously touched a raw nerve there crippledick. So what was it then? Were you an alcoholic, depressed at the constant stream of whingers coming through your door? Or did you develop a drug habit at Uni? Injecting stuff just to get through the long days? Something that you write off easily as "genetics". Still haven't seen any links to the "evidence" on the genetic causes of addiction btw....

If you're at the wind up fine-if you're not, GROW UP.
There's overwhelming evidence for a genetic component in addiction, and some researchers have identified chromosome patterns which may give the complete answer very soon.

If I were a recovering alcoholic, or addict, or gambler, or all three, for that matter, it's the sheer bloody minded and self righteous ignorance of folk like yourself which would cause 'raw nerves', in a so called enlightened age, when the W.H.O. classifies addictive behaviour as an illness.

Upaclose knows better of course.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 15:51:38
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jun 6 2007, 01:46 PM) [snapback]285177[/snapback]
I'll take that as a yes then.
Indeed.

Take it as you wish!

'Indeed' indeed!

Using the same twisted logic I take it you've either got a personal axe to grind, ot are an addict yourself and in denial.

As I suggested-'wind ups' are ok by me upaclose-but deliberate lying on what's meant to be a serious thread is puerile.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 15:56:46
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 6 2007, 01:49 PM) [snapback]285178[/snapback]
I will grant you this MJ you are good at probing the hot spots!

Now I know you are being silly. Why on earth would I have wanted to study medicine? It is only now that GP’s are earning more than £100k per year for being able to diagnose mumps and chicken-pox.

PS Apologies to any GP’s but you do get dragged down to certain levels of debate!

Now, now, behave yourself-you're not one to be chasing the filthy lucre.

Oh and G.P.'s earning more than 100k annually-aye right, you're getting mixed up with self employed electricians. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-06 16:04:44
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Jun 6 2007, 02:15 PM) [snapback]285183[/snapback]
And as stated previously I completely agree with you. But my point (lost in the pace of the discussion) was what is the value of a university degree? Or more precisely a Bachelor degree. Technology advances, a greater understanding of the things around us, the need for lifelong training and equality of opportunity (as highlighted by Greacen2000) show that 'traditional' qualifications have not moved with the times - and it doesn't matter which institution (old or new) awarded the degree.

Now if you say that all degrees should be marked against a specific standard then you basically agree with my statement that as my degree was awarded by the CNAA then it is in fact better than the piece of paper awarded by an old university. And in this case I'm happy to agree with you, in fact there should be some form of standardisation across the country - which would significantly improve the chances of getting an agreement Europe-wide as to what exactly is a Bachelor degree or a HND.

On the hand if you are saying that only 'real' universities should be the only institutes able to award degrees and in particular 'firsts' then I have to say that is educational snobbery. My first piece of paper from an institute of higher learning was my HND from Glasgow Tech. With the subject choices I made, this lowly certificate from a lowly establishment meant I had already completed the majority of the subjects in my Honours degree. Talking to the course professor at the University of Dundee in regards to their Masters programme I again found that I had already covered a significant part of the programme during my HND.

I agree partly with MJ and the other 'via, veritas, vita' brigade in the the value of certain degrees has been diminished and that the entrance requirements of some universities would tend to make a 'first' from one institute greater than a 'first' from another. However this is not always the case. I know someone who's entry requirements for Edinburgh are lower than that for Leeds, which is even weirder when you consider Edinburgh's rep in the subject they plan to take. That's why for me there needs to be a fundamental review of the entire further education systems so that we can get places like the old colleges of technology that deliver quality technical / vocational opportunities and separating out purely academical studies. But we would also have to define what a purely academic subject was, i.e. is medicine purely academic?

cool.gif ScotinBelgie

Roberto, you ARE an academic-no matter where you graduated. You display logic, intelligence, and the ability to present a reasoned argument.

As I've said elsewhere, the best of the bottom is often of higher quality than the worst of the top, and we could argue all day about specific definitions.

Ultimately those who 'can' will, irrespective of whether or not they have a 'first' at 'Oxbridge', or an upper second at Paisley.

That does NOT mean we should be arguing the general from the particular. 'A rose by any other name..' etc.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 16:10:39
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 6 2007, 04:03 PM) [snapback]285221[/snapback]
Apologies, I tend to get my information (facts?) from reputable sites-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4627767.stm

Erm-HT you haven't a f*cking clue. Far from being paid anything LIKE that for 'diagnosing chickenpox and mumps', this is a grossly biased presentation of G.P.'s POTENTIAL earnings INCLUDING overtime.

It reflects a 60 hour week, almost 1/3rd of which is spent doing unsociable hours.

Don't believe everything you read in the papers-I expected better of you.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 16:15:19
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jun 6 2007, 02:18 PM) [snapback]285186[/snapback]
Many folk post lines on here
Some dim and some are brighter
Some like to give the ladies one,
Some take it up the s***er.

The first I guess, like you and me
are nimble with their dicks,
while bending down for half a crown's
a habit of sick Mick's
mortonjag 2007-06-06 16:18:49
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Jun 6 2007, 03:33 PM) [snapback]285212[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif sounds more like a weans nursery ryhme....or is that the instructions you have writtren on your lavvie wall MJ??? just incase of one vimto too many?????

It was a dirty wee ditty we dirty wee boys recited when I was in the Primary school in the Port!
mortonjag 2007-06-06 16:21:30
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 6 2007, 03:56 PM) [snapback]285218[/snapback]
I used AVG but switched to Avast when I was having compatibility issues.

HT in an act of previously unparalleled generosity, I'll immunise you against infectious parotitis for a pie and Bovril at the next Scapa game! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-06 16:28:32
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 6 2007, 02:47 PM) [snapback]285200[/snapback]
JM and Rae incompetent?
Shocking allegation!
Treason against Dougie!
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He MUST know best-after all he's the chairman! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-06 16:36:26
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 6 2007, 04:21 PM) [snapback]285237[/snapback]
What do you think of Des Spence?

He's outspoken and frequently gets things right.

Interesting to see our new SNP health spokesperson having a virginal 'doctor bash'. Maybe she'd have been better off exploiting the statistics of the vastly profligate and fatally flawed NHS 24, introduced by her eejit predecessors.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 17:34:57
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 6 2007, 04:38 PM) [snapback]285251[/snapback]
Enough of the personal abuse please chaps...

Spoken like a gentleman of true moderation-mind you I don't think anybody's necessarily totally serious on this, though I WOULD like to see the issue of addiction discussed seriously and responsibly.

The widely held medical view is now of an illness, largely, if not wholely genetically determined, yet prejudice and misinformation are rife.

I imagine there are not a few posters whose lives have been, or are being afected directly or otherwise by addiction, and who are afraid to voice their views for fear of being ridiculed by the mistaken opinions of a vociferous minority.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 17:47:26
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 6 2007, 04:46 PM) [snapback]285258[/snapback]
I agree. See article from 2005

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/h...ticle758105.ece

Now I would never call anyone a p***k or suggest that they don't have a f***ing clue. I don't think gentlemen (with breeding) should do that.

43% of GP's chose to earn £100k in 2004. As Des Spence says
"Giving GPs this amount of money may even make staffing resources worse, because GPs have no need to do extra work out of hours"

I like to think "intelligent" debate means the exchanging of ideas and facts. I await your final word!

Stop being a penis HT- you haven't a fornicating clue! rolleyes.gif

On this one Spence is being Devil's advocate-lies, damned lies, and statistics as always.

For a start, '57% of G.P's choose NOT to earn more than 100K annually' would have been a damned sight closer to the truth.

Or - 'G.P's agree to work longer and more unsociable hours in return for salaries of over 100k annually'.

Or - '100% of single handed G.P.'s have been forced into second rate citizen status by unattainable demands to provide tarted up performance figures in return for cash'.

Or SO close to the truth - 'G.P.'s moonlight to keep pace with tooth mechanics in credit ratings'-I wrote that one for the Sun!

DON'T get me started PLEASE HT, and as I said before, don't believe everything you read in the papers! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-06 17:58:30
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 6 2007, 05:08 PM) [snapback]285267[/snapback]
No need, survived the experience when I was four. Thankfully, it had no long term impact (well none that I am aware of).

Hmm-not by any means uncommon to have failed immunity if you had a mild dose HT-maybe for your baws' sake, you should reconsider! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-06 18:04:32
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 6 2007, 04:50 PM) [snapback]285261[/snapback]
My first car was a 1973 Renault 4, not the flashy 4GTL like that one, but the 845cc 4TL. It was a great car, 50mpg in the days when most cars did about 25, and it had a vinyl bench front seat which was quite useful. Very soft suspension but it was so light you could just about carry it, and I could service it no problem - absolutely NO electronics, and a fixed jet carb. I once stripped the engine down and changed the clutch without removing the driveshafts, which according to the manual was impossible (the gearbox was in front of the engine, hence the umbrella gearlever in the dashboard. An all time great car, although that one looks pretty rusty. Mine had about 30 horsepower, maybe 34 tops, but that 1108 cc model must have had, oh, at least 40hp.

My Mum had one in the mid sixties Alibi-it was similar in spec to yours. The panels were so thin you could gently push and they'd give and spring back out!

She never had any trouble with the 'Flying Prawn' as it was called because of its sickly pinkish hue.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 18:09:26
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 6 2007, 05:24 PM) [snapback]285271[/snapback]
After reading Dougie's senile rant in today's Tele, it makes me
wonder why anyone should take him seriously.
Who knows more about the youth system in Greenock:
A man who has headed a youth team in the area for a good few years, or
a sweetie merchant?

Do tell lads-I don't get the 'tilly' up here-what's he whining about now?

FFS when I saw the way he behaved like a three year old at Kirkcaldy, I thought he'd finally grown up. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-06 18:23:00
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jun 6 2007, 06:11 PM) [snapback]285281[/snapback]

Thanks Gash-

What he really said

'Shut the f*ck up-and don't dare to question yer faither'.

It gets worse Dougie-are we 'Up for it'?

This poster says NO WAY-wake up and smell the coffee or better still 'drap deid'. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-06 18:26:23
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jun 6 2007, 06:24 PM) [snapback]285284[/snapback]
Pretty much aye. Anyone else getting an urge to paint a small tash on his top lip?

polishing the old jackboots as I type!
mortonjag 2007-06-06 18:34:20
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jun 6 2007, 06:27 PM) [snapback]285286[/snapback]
Why would I? I know nothing about you apart from what you've posted on here (you were a doctor, are impotent, have 17 gay sons).
Gave up smoking three years ago and enjoy a drink but dont abuse it. Some of us can do these things
I don't know what you mean by "lying". What did I "lie" about?

You lied about knowing more than me on the subject, and now you've lied about my professional status, my sexual potency, and the numbers and sexuality of my children.

1/ I am still fully registered with the General Medical Council.

2/ I had my penis amputated two years ago in a ground breakingly benevolent transplant. The pygmy recipient is now delighted with his perfectly normal organ.

3/ Only 14 of my sons are gay. The other three are perfectly 'normal' except that they support one of the OF and vote for Labour.

Oh, I forgot-I can't remember the number of times I've heard 'I enjoy a drink but don't abuse it'. In my experience that is often a statement of denial, if not a mild cry for help.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 18:43:42
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Jun 6 2007, 06:27 PM) [snapback]285287[/snapback]
This is one point I do disagree with you and in many ways goes to the heart of my arguments. A qualified professional yes, but I would not claim to be an academic. Simply because I display logic, intelligence, and the ability to present a reasoned argument does not make me an academic. My grandfather equally displayed these traits as does my father, and as a shipwright and an electrician respectively I wouldn't say class either as academics - although they probably could give such esteemed fellows a run for their money on many a topic.

tongue.gif ScotinBelgie

You demean yourself young Sir. You are a member of the Academia as ably defined on line by Wikipaedia.

Not, perhaps, in the accepted sense, but you ARE an academic.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 18:46:15
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 6 2007, 06:35 PM) [snapback]285289[/snapback]
I have no idea what Darren McFlounder is doing, losing nearly every ball, again not the greatest of games

Is he losing the plaice?
mortonjag 2007-06-06 18:52:12 It just goes from bad to worse. This afternoon I pulled up at the lights behind a green VW Golf. The back window boasted the usual 'Baby on Board', Arnold Clark sticker, and 'World's best Gran'.

The remaining space was virtually obliterated by a huge 'Help find Maddie' poster, making the rear view mirror, I'd guess, totally redundant.

Given that the world's best Gran's are more often than not the world's worst drivers, I'm praying for every four year old child within half a mile of that eejit.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 18:54:02
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jun 6 2007, 06:46 PM) [snapback]285292[/snapback]
That's a bit more like it. It's actually not that hard to relax is it?
Obviously a large percentage of the adult population are alkies then. Just like me.

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mortonjag 2007-06-06 19:02:07 Heavenly sunshine

Hallelujah! cool.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-06 19:09:13
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 6 2007, 07:01 PM) [snapback]285298[/snapback]
Ageist, Sexist... are there anymore ists in that post, shame on you rolleyes.gif

REALIST



LL, and I hope the 'Whitecaps' take her to the cleaners. F*cking 'accident just waiting to happen', and the most likely is she'll miss somebody in her blind spot and pull out with no warning. The other poor c*nt will have no choice but to swerve into oncoming traffic, as she gaily toddles along at 25 m.p.h. oblivious to everything except her conversation with her equally distracted passenger. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-06 19:15:26
QUOTE(ianton @ Jun 6 2007, 07:07 PM) [snapback]285300[/snapback]
If the local boys’ clubs have players they think are good enough, they should tell us about them.
quote from DDFR.in other words they can't be arsed going to any games to watch the teams play.

That was one of the most pathetic parts of a feeble effort to justify the unjustifiable.

Aye right Dougie, everybody who goes within half a mile of the local boys clubs is a died in the wool Ton supporter!

What on EARTH makes you think they'd come pleading with you to condescendingly consider the possibility of perhaps offering a trial so long as they promise to be very, very good.
mortonjag 2007-06-06 19:24:30
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 6 2007, 07:15 PM) [snapback]285303[/snapback]
Are you just waiting for someone to offload your anger, your language is offensive as is your attitude.

My language was not intended to be offensive LL. It is used fairly commonly by posters to demonstrate frustration, and, in this case, justifiable anger. I apologise if I have offended you, but did you completely miss the real point?

In a pathetically futile attempt to 'find Maddie' that woman has turned herself into a -dare I say - BLOODY- menace to road users.

Four year old kiddies are knocked down and killed on the roads every day of the week. Few of them have been spawned by wealthy and influential parents who are able to mount road safety campaigns in the name of their lost little ones.

Get my drift? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-07 04:55:44
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 6 2007, 08:50 PM) [snapback]285345[/snapback]
You calling me baldy, especially as I've just had a No.1 all over this afternoon tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2007-06-07 05:02:55
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 6 2007, 07:47 PM) [snapback]285314[/snapback]
I've got an O-Grade in Art.

Does that make me an academic? unsure.gif

.....from which Institution? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-07 05:06:11
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 6 2007, 09:03 PM) [snapback]285355[/snapback]
Nope, a wee ginger ****. wink.gif

And the only slight there is ginger. tongue.gif
Don't do yersel' down shorty. As I saw at the spinny 4 (?) years ago, there's a fooking good brain in yer heid, AND you buy your round. That makes you a gentleman.

ETA, the p.c. stuff on the forum gets worse pooof gets replaced by **** sad.gif

Insurrection alive and kicking Mr Bam-CLAYMORE C O CK's, now impossible, even by using the 'ZERO' to replace the capital 'O'.

Has Haggis Heid been clyping? mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-07 05:11:31
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 6 2007, 09:57 PM) [snapback]285374[/snapback]
Said thread was the last one I read at the end of my n/s. Where did it go? I expected fireworks. laugh.gif

In a welcome and unprecedented change of heart, it was reinstated as the 'Let's discuss addiction' thread, which is still up and running (I think!).
mortonjag 2007-06-07 05:14:34
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 6 2007, 08:50 PM) [snapback]285346[/snapback]
I'd have been gutted if he had been hooked.

Uh-oh...have I just taken the bait?

Scotland bewhale lacklustre performance against minnows.
mortonjag 2007-06-07 05:20:05
QUOTE(Morton_T.I.D @ Jun 6 2007, 11:02 PM) [snapback]285398[/snapback]
I'm 15 and turn 16 on july 13th.
I have just left school to go to collage in september and am looking for a job to earn me some money. my mum works in tesco and she suggested that i get a porters job. (trolly boy for all of us.) and i thought why not. She is going to talk to some people she knows and try and get me an into it but she says to me that if i was to get it ther days may be tricky. I wondered what she ment by tricky but she says that she can garentee that there will be a saturday in with thte days that i work. It will be student hours so it will be half 4 till half 8 or 5 till 9 or something which means i will miss morton games. Its my first job and i need some money. What advice so people think i should do ?

That wouldn't be collage as in Collage of Art, young Deegan? wink.gif

Working for major supermarkets is a s***ty job at almost any level, and 'trolley boys' are treated as the lowest of the low. You'll get little thanks, constant pressure, and a pittance of a wage. By all means try to make some dosh, but I'd break my heart for you if you had to miss your beloved Ton, AND work for a crowd of scumbag profiteers.
mortonjag 2007-06-07 05:26:56
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 6 2007, 08:38 PM) [snapback]285338[/snapback]
not quite, but you're on the right lines. only a government agency could consider putting me in a position of semi-responsibility.

HAAA-Dougie's been recruiting for his KGB (euphemism for Kiss GoodBye, to all who fail to salute, and slever in anticipation when he lifts the mike).
mortonjag 2007-06-07 05:28:44
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 6 2007, 10:55 PM) [snapback]285395[/snapback]
He obviously mislaid his rosary beads .. laugh.gif not even divine intervention could help in this case .
I hate when the bookies take someones money but I'm willing to make an exception in this case .

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mortonjag 2007-06-07 05:41:04
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 6 2007, 07:40 PM) [snapback]285312[/snapback]
I think the hype surrounding this sorry saga is becoming vulgar, distasteful even. I have listened to some vicious opinions over the last couple of weeks. I pity this couple when all the hype dies down as I think it is masking the reality of the situation for them. When the media goes it will hit them hard. sad.gif

The German press didn't miss them and hit the wall LL-just saying what all with open and investigative minds have been thinking from day one. Until an answer is provided, ANYTHING'S possible.

I did NOT make up that story about the posters obliterating completely the rear vision in that car. If you project my experience globally isn't it just POSSIBLE that some four year old child will be maimed or killed on our roads-AS A DIRECT RESULT of the McCann's behaviour.

If, as NewTon has suggested, wee Maddie turns up safe and well, such an occurrence would assume hugely ironic proportions.

I've said from the start they should have kept their noses out of other people's business.
mortonjag 2007-06-07 05:48:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 7 2007, 03:17 AM) [snapback]285426[/snapback]
returning to the topic of this thread ...

vaffanculo

vai in culo

...loosely translated NewTon you've just invited me to shag a donkey, then 'f*ck off'.

Using poetic licence - are you inciting me to bugger one of our most beloved posters ere fleeing to the safety of Oz?
mortonjag 2007-06-07 06:10:13
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jun 7 2007, 05:31 AM) [snapback]285442[/snapback]
I find I get addicted to many things ; some healthy , some not so. I know that today , if I had not found Gamblers Anonymous then I would be dead , of that there is no doubt ; and it's important for me to remain in regular contact with felwlo members even whilst I am travelling ; indeed I have been to meetings in various places in the States , a notable one being in Las Vegas , but usually my means of contact is through email and phone to people at my base meeting back home. Helping others helps me ; It's vitally important to support those who have just came through the doors for the first time. I badly miss my meetings whilst travelling.

With alcohol I cannot go and have a drink for lunch , if I do , then lunch transpires into a huge session until I can drink no more ; the secret therefore is not to have a drink with lunch !! but to have a sprite or something instead although sometimes I try and convince myself still that I will just have one. Through help and support at GA I went along to an AA meeting but it I guess I wasn't quite ready for that and it freaked me out when I saw my Mums neighbour there.

I'm also really annoyed with myself that I am back smoking again but I hope with a genuine and determined effort I can stop again within the nest few days.

That's in a nutshell a good description of the 'Addictive Personality' WDE.

Would you be surprised if you are an alcoholic? No doubt I'll get slated for daring to suggest that, but I do know what I'm talking about. p.m. if you want a blether.
mortonjag 2007-06-07 06:30:16 'So long as there's a breath in his body', GMFC will stay under total control of a man who's rapidly turning from saviour to saboteur.

He's so pleased with himself as he makes such announcements to the press-brushing aside 'several' genuine attempts to invest in or buy over OUR club.

Those fans who are willing to put in their tuppenceworth are seen as 'troublemakers', and a 'menace', and their input, which regularly puts the Chairman's pathetic programme pish to shame, is labelled 'a rag' by his independently minded laugh.gif boy child.

McInally was recruited because he fitted into the big picture-a known 'name' and palpable 'yes man', who will do exactly what he's told when he's told. I find it impossible to assess JM fairly with that old autocrat pulling the strings, but he's NOT set the heather on fire, and we DID almost blow it again last time.

I don't know that old fart personally, nor do I wish him any harm, but IMHO he's become an embarrassing impediment to progress-and I GUARANTEE he will NEVER change.

The alternative?

TAXI FOR RAE. wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-07 06:49:11 A famous artist GAUGUIN
Three famous singers DEAN MARTIN, TOM JONES, and PRINCE
A famous sportswoman ANNA KOURNIKOVA
A famous hamster HADRIAN A. (R.I.P.)

AND our own famous fisherman

GIBBY

Many happy returns of the day.
mortonjag 2007-06-07 07:20:32
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jun 7 2007, 06:58 AM) [snapback]285448[/snapback]
What has he said / done now?

Scan the 'Morton under 17' thread, marbella.
mortonjag 2007-06-07 07:23:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 7 2007, 04:14 AM) [snapback]285431[/snapback]
Sydney FC

celta vigo
mortonjag 2007-06-07 07:29:40
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 7 2007, 03:23 AM) [snapback]285428[/snapback]
I'll pump your ass full of my own little soldiers!
Nessuno me lo ficca in culo.

Sick Mick's flight hasn't yet landed I gather! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-07 07:49:18
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jun 7 2007, 05:08 AM) [snapback]285436[/snapback]
I've read the article and the comments of the members of this forum. Here is my input to the debate.
F T O F

seconded!
mortonjag 2007-06-07 08:07:29
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 7 2007, 07:58 AM) [snapback]285453[/snapback]
Don't be such a drama queen ! Rae on more than one occasion has put his money where his mouth is, so I'm happy with his stewardship of our club.
Again you make totally unsubstantiated accusations regarding Rae and McInally.

It's getting tiresome..........yawn

Nice one Haggis Heid-did Dougie slip you 50p for S.N.P funds?

So you're 'happy with his stewardship'..how f*ckin' apt, from a tartan barsteward! wink.gif

C'mon man, Dougie would need MEGAMEGA bucks to put his money where his MOUTH is.

Actions speak louder than words, and I believe he's lost the plot.

For 'stewardship' read 'it's ma ba' so ah'l dae jist whit ah please'. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-07 08:51:51
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 7 2007, 08:26 AM) [snapback]285455[/snapback]
I think it's plain to see the only one who has "lost the plot" is you, and by the looks of it, it happened a while ago !

You quoted "McInally was recruited because he fitted into the big picture-a known 'name' and palpable 'yes man', who will do exactly what he's told when he's told. I find it impossible to assess JM fairly with that old autocrat pulling the strings"

Give me ONE shread of evidence to back that quote up

It depends what you mean by evidence-if it's simply to be on the same level as most of the 'evidence' which you 'produce' in your regular diatribes of vertiginous tartan paranoia, I can cite numerous examples.

Perhaps the best would be Rae's assertion that the youth set-up is hunky-dory, and JM's in total command.

I find it incredible. If it's true it just goes to prove JM is an eejit.

Do YOU believe he's satisfied with the set up, or just has to dae as he's telt, like EVERYBODY at Scapa.

It seems to me Gaelic Goolies, that your penchant for 'independence' in politics and subservience in football matters are totally contradictory.
mortonjag 2007-06-07 08:55:58
QUOTE(WullTon @ Jun 7 2007, 08:43 AM) [snapback]285458[/snapback]
Would you rather he spent money on the youth system now rather than the players wee need to compete for the First Division . Once we are an estalishes First Division I am sure Dougie will invest in youth .

Aye right-he could well be 'deid and buried' by then. There again, he may live to make sweeties 'til hes 261. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-07 09:06:14
QUOTE(shedhead @ Jun 7 2007, 08:54 AM) [snapback]285462[/snapback]
I'm usually a big critic of the MJ and was about to get tore into him for his negative manner. But after reading the U-17 thread I think he has a point. I dont know if chasing old Dougie out of Capa is the way to go , but learning about our youth development has really opened my eyes. Bringing through youth players is the only way to go if you want to be successful in the Scottish league. Even Rangers and Celtic realise this ffs. I played football in Greenock for many years , and played with, and against some great players. I'm positive theres some young players in Inverclyde with the talent to do a job for Morton. Why aren,t we making sure we are getting first dibs, and giving them a professional enviroment to learn football . My dad always told me that Inverclyde wasn't scouted enough, and I always noticed that my panini cards always had born in Bellshill on the back. If there's talent in our own backyard then we should be moving heaven and earth to get them playing in the blue hoops.

I'd love the old codger to stay and ENJOY the rest of his time as a genuine Ton fan. I've repeatedly thanked him for all the good things he's done, (in the same way as I'm grateful to my parents for helping me through my early years) but the time comes for every parent to take a back seat, if the offspring are to progress to healthy adulthood.
mortonjag 2007-06-07 09:08:54
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 7 2007, 08:37 AM) [snapback]285456[/snapback]
From, in my very humble opinion, the finest educational institution in Greenock.

Ladyburn?
mortonjag 2007-06-07 09:12:56
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 7 2007, 08:44 AM) [snapback]285459[/snapback]
Exactly - I, like hundreds of others put our hands in our pockets on the pretence we were funding the future of the club. Not bankrolling the first team or for any other purpose.

I would certainly like to see a FORMAL response from the club on this. Not wishing to get too biscuit arsed, but i have horrible memories of days gone by in another land and another kingdom when money was very fluid and, well, some of you have read the story and know that the "happy ever after" was a long time coming ......

TonInDublin

We never seem to get statements, let alone formal ones from ANYBODY except Rae.

Simple TiD-Rae IS the club-and it's long past time something is done to rectify the matter.
mortonjag 2007-06-07 09:15:39
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jun 7 2007, 09:12 AM) [snapback]285469[/snapback]
Morton employees in doing what their boss tells them shock. laugh.gif laugh.gif

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Whit SHOCK-it's common knowledge- the old 'Sweetie Wife' has to authorise everything, right down to where the nominal chief exec buys her match day knickers. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-07 09:18:29
QUOTE(steveoath @ Jun 7 2007, 09:16 AM) [snapback]285473[/snapback]
Assuming we are going to se a new defender, midfielder and striker (and GK). Who would you want to see us bring in and could do a job in div 1?

defender Still Dougie Cameron for me. I really like his attitude.

midfielder Is Jenkins getting a game for Gretna? Or McGuffie.

striker Hate to admit it but I've been impressed by Snodgrass, think he could do the business.

Steve

How much money's in the pot?
mortonjag 2007-06-07 09:27:53
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jun 7 2007, 09:23 AM) [snapback]285475[/snapback]
No , I wouldn't be surprissed to to be told I'm an alcoholic. I know I am an alcoholic , have been for a long time. I am just not yet mentally ready to deal with it and maybe I never will. Many non-alcoholics think that to be an alcoholic you wake up with the shakes and have fly drinks when in the workplace , and , whilst true of some alcoholics , others have the abilitiy to go days and weeks without a fix.

There are hundreds of thousands of alcoholics in Scotland who are not prepared to admit they are and / or they are not prepared / don't believe there is anything they can do about the matter. I'm completely socially dependant on alcohol , and , unfortunately a lot of times when I am beyond the polite conversational stage I just turn into a rambling idiot and lose any respect I had. I am convinced I can be a nice guy when I am sober , but staying sober is impossible. I think deep down , one day , I will commit to dealing with my alcoholism.

At the moment I am addicted to travelling , man I haven't been in the same town for more than 5 days since November 25th , and yes , I have been pissed in every single place I've been. Magic innit ?

I haven't had a bet though. Thank God.

You're some guy WDE-you have my unqualified respect for your honesty and perception. Maybe your comments will 'rattle a few cages'-I certainly hope so! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-07 09:31:19
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 7 2007, 09:25 AM) [snapback]285477[/snapback]
No.

I consider Ladyburn to be only the 2nd finest educational institution in Greenock.

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I'm sure I know the answer, but I'll try St Pat's?
mortonjag 2007-06-07 09:37:02
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 7 2007, 09:31 AM) [snapback]285480[/snapback]
So you can't provide ONE shread of evidence to back up your claim. It's basically what you perceive as the truth. Has anyone with any connection to the Club relayed this information to you ?

What we have is the ramblings of a spiteful old man who has some kind of grudge against Dougie Rae.

That is libellous Plaid Penis, but I'll let you off, as you've much to learn.

I have been privy to information, and have met and spoken with Mr Rae in the past.

I've spent my whole life in diagnosis and personality assessment c***atoo-aye- I COULD be wrong-unlike you I admit the possibility, but the evidence is pretty convincing.
mortonjag 2007-06-07 09:39:06
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 7 2007, 09:34 AM) [snapback]285481[/snapback]
He has joined East fife and found his level.

Says the man who thinks the sun beams from DDFR's anus! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-07 09:47:06
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 7 2007, 09:39 AM) [snapback]285486[/snapback]
Threads like this just defy logic. I'm sure that MJ was probably a very good doctor as he displays all the usual arrogance associated with people who have had a lifetime holding the power of life or death over we lessor mortals.

Having been in the NHS, he must surely be used to the fact that any organisation has finite resources and decisions have to be made about how best to deploy them. Rightly or wrongly, in the face of unavoidable losses of around £400k per annum whilst in the second division, Dougie chose to prioritise getting out of that league and use what money was available pursuing that. I am sure he would like to have the best youth setup in Scotland but achieving that has been a secondary issue in the face of the greater need to be in higher leagues. Now you can agree or disagree with this but a genuine business decision was made in this respect.

As for wanting him to go, this is where the serious logic deficiency appears. What may I ask, is the plan to keep Morton afloat post Dougie? He and his companies fund our losses on an ongong basis. Do you have a suitable replacement? Maybe you could come up with the £4-500k per annum required? Whether you like it or not, Morton need Golden Casket for now and without them, the administrator and probably oblivion is just around the corner again.

Finally, most of your rants are as a result of equating your personal speculation with the hard truth. I would put it to you that you have no first hand evidence that Jim McInally is a yes man or that Dougie runs Morton in any autocratic sort of way. Even if he does, that would not be unusual in football and overall his stewardship of the club has had a lot more right about it than wrong.

Gie's peace! I'm sure a man of MJ's intellect knows that the above is correct but he just enjoys stirring the pot now and again to get the reactions.

I have not questioned Dougie's business experience tonsilitis. What I seriously question is his 'hands on' approach to the playing, coaching, and managing of the side.

I did not start the thread to make mischief-it is a legitimate follow up to questions about the youth set up, and I'm far from alone in my concerns.

It's rich that you stereotype me as an 'arrogant' doctor. You are so deeply immersed in your financial facts and figures that you can't spot detrimental autocracy from your seat in the stand.
mortonjag 2007-06-07 09:49:46
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 7 2007, 09:36 AM) [snapback]285482[/snapback]
I won't even dignify that with a response. rolleyes.gif

Oh FFS-I know you're an old Academical and snob to boot-let's hear it for the Academy-Ra, Ra, Ra! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-07 09:55:51
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 7 2007, 09:43 AM) [snapback]285487[/snapback]
I think it's more likely you are writing from a Care Home and they have given you the wrong medication.

Or Dougie shagged your burd back in 1942 during the blackout's

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My 'burd' as you describe her wasn't even born in 1972, let alone 1942 Snotter Sporran.

Don't you think that describing our esteemed Chairman as someone who 'shags burds' is a tad infra dignitatem.

I'd describe it more as sweet talking them into a little piece of Fudgy Wudgy.
mortonjag 2007-06-07 09:59:10
QUOTE(briggsTON @ Jun 7 2007, 09:44 AM) [snapback]285488[/snapback]
What is wrong with having a successful confectionery business, would you prefer it if he sold arms to the middle east ?

Did I say there was anything wrong with it-DID I? wink.gif

BTW is there something you should be telling us?
mortonjag 2007-06-07 10:07:02
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 7 2007, 09:50 AM) [snapback]285493[/snapback]
The reality is that money, as measured by 'facts and figures' as you put it, is the lifeblood of business. So yes, I have an interest in them because thats the real issue here. Whether I or anyone else agrees or disagrees with your stance on Mr Rae's stewardship of the club is a bit irrelevant in the face of my fundamental question which can be condensed to 'If Dougie goes, where does the money come from to keep us afloat?'

If you have a viable answer to that question, then maybe I would listen but I, for one, very much prefer having my club run by Dougie than having no club at all!

Mr Rae, according to Mr Rae, had turned down several bids for the club. Mr Rae has done that for reasons best known to Mr Rae. Mr Rae IS f*cking Morton, and intends so to be 'til he enters the great eternal Sweetie Jar.

I've suggested repeatedly the wisdom of remaining as Chairman, and employing a salaried director of football.

Dougie is only too happy to sit back and laugh at sycophantic assertions that if he goes we're f*cked-the club IS now a viable proposition, and IMO he's holding things back with his intransigence.
mortonjag 2007-06-07 10:16:42
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 7 2007, 10:05 AM) [snapback]285503[/snapback]
I'll bite: what makes you think that McInally is a yes man?

That's like asking me how I can tell a young man's got a problem with his 'tadger' the minute he walks through the consulting room door Nach0-and I've only been right nine times out of ten. It's possible that JM's the one who's been pulling the strings all along, and that the reticent manner, the wee shy half pained smile, and the boringly unambitious caution which oozes from his every pore, mask a footballing firebrand who regularly batters f*ck out of the chairman with his copy of the Financial Times. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-07 10:34:17
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 7 2007, 10:19 AM) [snapback]285508[/snapback]
But there's no evidence or reason behind it? Just your gut feeling?

Fair enough if that works for you, but I'd prefer something more tangible.

Wouldn't we all-WOULDN'T WE JUST-when do we EVER get a feel of the dressing room or boardroom, as at other clubs. I'd not be at all surprised if there's a clause in every contract about disclosure of information without prior consent.
mortonjag 2007-06-07 10:44:45
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 7 2007, 10:30 AM) [snapback]285516[/snapback]
The club loses £3-400k per annum. This might reduce a bit in the first division but it will not make profits unless we can sell a player for a few hundred thousand which seems unlikely. It would appear therefore that your definition of 'viable' and mine are somewhat at odds! The only league in which clubs like Morton can make money is the SPL and, if we get there then maybe we can become a viable business.

We could have been there now!

Golden Casket are handsomely in profit and looking for acquisitions, while the relatively meagre sums 'donated' by Mr Rae to HIS club, which I assume includes the grovellingly grateful poornith fans, has seen us struggle for five full seasons.

I said the club is now POTENTIALLY viable tonsilitis. Mileson could have had us in the SPL and profitable in three seasons if he hadn't backed a born loser.

Rae will not change, nor will anything change what he HAS done, but IMO it's long past time for a revolution.
mortonjag 2007-06-07 10:47:04
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 7 2007, 10:37 AM) [snapback]285522[/snapback]
There are probably all sorts of clauses, and perhaps Jim bites his tongue occasionally, but he honestly doesn't strike me as a yes man in every sense.

For example, I think that, if DDF was truly pulling *all* the strings, Alex Williams wouldn't have left the club when he did.

Yes, Nach0, but it's always THINK, isn't it. If it had mattered enough to Dougie that wee Alex stayed, he'd still be there-rest assured.
mortonjag 2007-06-07 10:50:18
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 7 2007, 09:59 AM) [snapback]285499[/snapback]
My wish list only consists of one thing.
More info on everything coming out of the club.

Dream on.
mortonjag 2007-06-07 10:52:35
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 7 2007, 10:25 AM) [snapback]285512[/snapback]
A snob..... MOI!?!?!?!?!? laugh.gif

I tell you what, me and my Butler had a right good laugh at that one.

laugh.gif
Yer 'butler'-rent boy more like! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-07 10:54:07
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jun 7 2007, 10:29 AM) [snapback]285514[/snapback]
Gee , thanks.
It's not my intent here to rattle anyone's cage.

Poor choice of phrase-so unlike the monkey-what I meant was 'open some eyes'! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-07 11:08:28
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 7 2007, 10:53 AM) [snapback]285532[/snapback]
If you have a young burd then it must be your money she is after, it is certainly not yer patter she fell for. In fact she deserves all the money she can get for putting up with it.

Thankfully your not my doc...shudder the thought ohmy.gif Shipman probably saved more lives than you.

More naughty words from C ockaleekie Colon-and YES that's perfectly possible I imagine.

My 'young burd's actually perfectly well off in her own right-the reason for our mutual affection will remain a secret unless you bring £ 100,000 and a jaw splint with your camera. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-07 11:10:40
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Jun 7 2007, 10:54 AM) [snapback]285535[/snapback]
Honest, when big Joe was running the set up that's what it was costing .

...and how would YOU know? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-07 11:15:48
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Jun 7 2007, 11:12 AM) [snapback]285540[/snapback]
Ah, we are only here for the banter, this is better than a stand up comedy act laugh.gif laugh.gif .

'Are you up for it'? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-07 11:20:14
QUOTE(cmdc @ Jun 7 2007, 11:14 AM) [snapback]285541[/snapback]
Not realy taking sides on this, but there was wee bit in one of the papers today about Arsene Wenger (about as experienced a football man as you could possibly get) and how he sees little value in spending on 12-15 year olds and would rather spend 500,000 on one 16 year old as there is less of a risk. That is basically what Rae's argument was in the Tele when talking about the figures Warren Hawke had given him.

I have to say I'd like to see a more inclusive et up involving schools and boys clubs, but I don't believe it crucial to our survival or ambitions.

There's an ever so slight difference between Arsenal and GMFC-we're talking about the practicalities for the future health of a Scottish Provincial Club.

If Mr Rae is convinced his policy is correct, that's fair enough. It's all the pathetic defensive lies and excuses about 'HAVING' an active youth policy which are upsetting.
mortonjag 2007-06-07 11:35:06
QUOTE(cmdc @ Jun 7 2007, 11:30 AM) [snapback]285545[/snapback]
Have to be honest, I don't know much about that so wouldn't like to comment. Although I do think, from some past experience, Morton's youth set up has been a mess for a long time, even when guys like Mic King were visible at games and then when Peter Weir was in charge of it there were a lot of problems for good local players getting picked up.

Maybe someone can ask the manager directly about it, via the Tele or just by getting in touch, to see what he has to say about it, both interms of how it isstructured now and what he sees for the future.

On the face of it that seems so simple, and it's what you'd expect at most provincial clubs which are bankrolled by Chairmen who are willing to delegate.
mortonjag 2007-06-07 11:45:03
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Jun 7 2007, 11:35 AM) [snapback]285548[/snapback]
As defined by Wikipaedia Nope, not involved in education ore research. How about......again doesn't sound like me at all. So what do you mean by not in the accepted sense, perhaps you meant this statement.But then anyone who uses knowledge is an academic.

Now of course I can't disagree with you on the fact that I have been awarded an academic degree, so in that sense I am an academic. But that returns us to the point of diluting the value of academic studies yet undervaluing technical / vocational education. So I return to my point that the best way forward is a complete rethink of the whole process of tertiarty education and a clear definition of awards, for example an ordinary degree in England is a pass degree while in Scotland it is a designated degree which is different - and most Scottish universities still add the fourht year for honours. On a European scale the confusion grows for example a German B.Sc. is actually a Brtitish B.Sc. (Hons). So until there is some standardisation it is very difficult to address the problem of dilution, at the same time you can address the issue of silly degrees!

ScotinBelgie

I concur-truly you are an academic. All you need is a little institution in which to make your contribution to academia.

I shall call it SAPIENT

Scot At P.C. (In European Northern territory)

Mines called ARSE

Ancient reclusive sh*t Ernie smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-07 11:53:15
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 7 2007, 11:49 AM) [snapback]285551[/snapback]
Anally Retentive S***-stirring Eejit? rolleyes.gif

Always Right....SO Educated rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-07 12:00:01
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 7 2007, 11:56 AM) [snapback]285556[/snapback]
That really is just the ramblings of a mad man.

What would so many clubs give to have a Chairman like Douglas Rae?
In 2000 if someone had told me that we would eventually be owned and run by a successful local business man who is actually a fan of the club I would not have let myself believe it, just in case.

A Chairman with money to spend and who has supported the club since childhood. Those attributes alone are enough to satisfy me. I may be a little naive with that view however for anyone to believe that Douglas Rae should be “removed†surely is at best naïve yet more likely their view has been derived from some kind of peculiar covetous envy.

Long may Douglas Rae remain Chairman and long may he avoid having the misfortune to read the utter conjecture and unsubstantiated accusations of this deluded and bitter old Doctor.

Signed

ALF

(arse licking f*d)
mortonjag 2007-06-07 12:11:12
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Jun 7 2007, 11:55 AM) [snapback]285554[/snapback]
Sorry MJ but I think Charming wins it.

biggrin.gif ScotinBelgie

Whit-a poncy wee ginger toff wi' a rent boy 'Butler', callin' ME a s*** stirrer mad.gif

I'll have you know my child that I was a founder member of SOOKNOB

(Society Of Old Kilmacolm Nurturers Of Buggery) long before you were born, or the idea of SODOM (Society Of Dirty Old Men) entered NewTon's head. mad.gif

mortonjag 2007-06-07 12:18:47
QUOTE(lush @ Jun 7 2007, 12:10 PM) [snapback]285561[/snapback]
Just seen that then. She got booted out at 3.30 am. Called to the diary room, then gone. Silly bint.

That depends on how much she got paid to do it IMO dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-07 12:20:51
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 7 2007, 12:15 PM) [snapback]285564[/snapback]
A.L. F.,..I see what you did there. That is hilarious. You really are a comedy genius. I'm afraid I just cant compete with that level of wit.

Well done, you should be very proud of yourself.

Oh-not really, it comes to me just as naturally as your tongue longs for the Chairman's nether parts.
mortonjag 2007-06-07 13:09:09
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 7 2007, 12:36 PM) [snapback]285569[/snapback]
Now you're just making a fool of yourself old man.

Precisely the type of response I always get when the Happy Clappy Shoogly Doogie Fan Club members run out of constructive comments. I should keep my 'anger acronym' in mind when folk like you are about 'Hoops':

SAWDUST!

Sycophants At Work-Delay Uttering Statements Today. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-07 13:12:17
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jun 7 2007, 12:39 PM) [snapback]285571[/snapback]
Who are these investors or potential buyers?

Forget the 'Famous' Chef, and ask 'Shoogly'-he said categorically in a press interview before the last Kirkcaldy game that he had 'knocked back' several offers.
mortonjag 2007-06-07 13:13:36
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jun 7 2007, 01:04 PM) [snapback]285578[/snapback]
laugh.gif mortonjag . Funniest thing on this site. He keeps sending out these ridiculous posts and we keep biting.

Dougie Rae bad for Morton laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Makes we weep with laughter.

Thanks mortonjag.

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-07 13:22:46
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Jun 7 2007, 01:05 PM) [snapback]285579[/snapback]
Christ....winced with that one......your mind is warped......please keep thoughts like these to yourself...please!!! I beg you.... biggrin.gif
SNC level or SVQ????? tongue.gif

My mind is truly warped. I issue a warning in my personal details, should you care to check.


Neither of these-- I am a specialist in FUDGE TART

Ferretting Under Dougie's Gentlemanly Exterior To Attain Real Truth.

One of DDFR's wee Fudgy Wudgies if you will. smile.gif

mortonjag 2007-06-07 13:25:00
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 7 2007, 01:20 PM) [snapback]285589[/snapback]
where tongue.gif

Go away you-it was in the Sun AND others, and I'm NOT digging through the archives to prove something I already know! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-07 13:31:13
QUOTE(BlackIsleTon @ Jun 7 2007, 01:21 PM) [snapback]285590[/snapback]
"taxi for rae" ...............what for? Come on mate take a look at all the posts. How many agree with what you are saying? Anyway i think we are fortunate to have a chairman like rae that at least would dip into his pocket to get a player. I think its time for a TAXI for mortonjag!!

So all is good!

Are you sitting comfortably?

Once upon a time....

and everybody believed the nice old gentleman except for a few misguided dements led by the bad Fairy Mortonjag.....

and so it came to pass that with much weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth...his name was changed to good fairy Fudgy Wudgy...and the nice old gentleman didn't live happily ever after.
mortonjag 2007-06-07 13:36:57
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 7 2007, 12:29 PM) [snapback]285568[/snapback]
Getting away from the who is wrong and right argument, in the current climate is it worth having a youth setup, with the bosman and webster rulings. i think it is still but its a question that needs asked.

There's no way of predicting the future Bryan, but it's legitimate to go with a 'best guess' and mine is that if it's the philosophy which works for the rest of Scottish football, it would be wiser for Mr Sweetie Maker Rae to follow suit.
mortonjag 2007-06-07 13:40:32
QUOTE(bazooka @ Jun 7 2007, 01:23 PM) [snapback]285593[/snapback]
What years did you teach EEE at Glasgow HT. I done my EEE degree there between 93-97

unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-07 14:21:32
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 7 2007, 02:01 PM) [snapback]285614[/snapback]
Gidday Skipper Crocodile Dundee Crikey, Newton

You're always going on about intelligence - but you'd do well to actually learn how to read. I made no such bet.

If you and your leather-skinned, bent-as-a-boomerang counterpart want to have a go at me, try and be a bit more subtle.

pachydermatous is the word you don't know son.
mortonjag 2007-06-07 14:24:46
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 7 2007, 01:44 PM) [snapback]285607[/snapback]
I think you should look back at some of yor posts on this thread to see that it's actually you that appear to have run out of constructive comments.

Everyone's laughing at you here. It's time to walk away.

Real Hoops and his multiple personalities of the Happy Clappys ain't happy with naughty fairy Fudgy Wudgy! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-07 14:26:35
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 7 2007, 02:01 PM) [snapback]285613[/snapback]
So... how does that make JM a yes man?

I didn't say IT DID!

I was simply pointing out that you were voicing an opinion-what you think.
mortonjag 2007-06-07 14:29:52
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 7 2007, 02:05 PM) [snapback]285617[/snapback]
Plenty of teams in Scotland, e.g. Brechin, don't have a youth setup.

My own take is that, regardless of whether or not we should have one, at present we do have one. If there's a wide perception from the footballing community locally, and the public at large, that it's failing in certain aspects, then it needs to be looked at. It's all well and good saying "but at least we have X, Y, and Z" but there's little point in having this system at all if it's not being used to its full potential.

Basically, I'd be unwilling to settle for second best in this instance. If in doing so means that we can either have a dysfunctional youth system or no youth system at all, I'd pick the latter. Since we do have one... I'd like to see it run well.

(Whether it's presently run well or not, I have no idea, but I do think it needs to be examined.)

Sometimes you are so non confrontational I'd like to see you as administrator instead of the dreaded Eastern punster! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-07 14:31:36
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jun 7 2007, 02:26 PM) [snapback]285629[/snapback]
To some people the glass is half full

To some people the glass is half empty

And to some people the glass is a half empty specimen jar of piss

It all depends on your outlook really. I'd suggest that until at least one, named serious contender is in line to make a bid for the club - a contender that the people on here can weigh up the pros and cons of - this subject should be binned. A lot of people were delighted when Wilson ended his stay as Chairman. Things didn't radically improve after that as we all know. Until there are known potentially better alternatives, this debate is pointless.

I'd suggest that's debatable.
mortonjag 2007-06-07 14:41:26 TiD has MONSTROUS HOOTER


Just though I'd like to say that as 50 folks will automatically disagree and he'll feel much less inhibited.
mortonjag 2007-06-07 14:44:42
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 7 2007, 02:41 PM) [snapback]285642[/snapback]
National Bucharesti

inverness caley thistle
mortonjag 2007-06-07 14:46:01
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Jun 7 2007, 02:28 PM) [snapback]285632[/snapback]
The payments were made with the full knowledge of the Ministry of Defence.

According to the BBC story

huh.gif ScotinBelgie

Plus ca change.
mortonjag 2007-06-07 14:49:58
QUOTE(Youngsa @ Jun 7 2007, 02:44 PM) [snapback]285648[/snapback]
I was speaking about this with a mate in work today whose son is at Hamilton Accies. From what I have read on this thread it is chalk and cheese with the youth set up comparison. He noted that he had taken in some of the youth team games this season and the Morton setup is one of the really bad ones he has seen in terms of players and management. He thinks that the Chairman has probably done the best thing in scrapping it but also suggested that if we want a decent set up then the proper experienced coaches have to be brought in.

Makes you wonder what could be achieved when Hamilton have boys like McCarthy playing in the first team at the age of 15-16 and my mates boy has already made the first team bench at 15.

Invest and reap the rewards - Liverpool have already bid £200K for McCarthy with add ons which could take it to the one million mark.

I dont think this will happen anytime soon at Morton:(

Another master of tactful litosis!
mortonjag 2007-06-07 14:52:39
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jun 7 2007, 02:48 PM) [snapback]285653[/snapback]
singingless?

Are you a moron, or just a f*d?

It's the 7th of June you sad little boy, our first game is August the 4th.

I don't expect us to make any signings any time soon, and don't really care as there's no point paying people do f*** all.

EDIT: This side of June means before the 15th, so calm the f*** down.

You're the moron

He said SINGINGLESS

Mind you the cowshed was pretty quiet last season too.
mortonjag 2007-06-07 14:58:43
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 7 2007, 02:47 PM) [snapback]285651[/snapback]
Grammar young man, grammar.

TiD has A MONSTROUS HOOTER.

FFS, did you go to Glasgow Uni ????

TonInDublin

TiD has
A


MONSTROUS HOOTER


and
A


MINISCULE SCOOTER (Lush will tell you)
mortonjag 2007-06-07 15:04:07
QUOTE(lush @ Jun 7 2007, 03:00 PM) [snapback]285666[/snapback]
I know nothing of his preferred mode of transport. wink.gif

It wasn't you astride his little Lambretta then-humble apologies! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-07 15:09:32
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 7 2007, 03:05 PM) [snapback]285669[/snapback]
Yer not wrong there lush, she even records it on Sky+ when she is at work along with every soap and CSI etc etc, i spend my evenings twiddling my thumbs. Her at work, and me stuck with Terestrial Tv unsure.gif
To me thats torture, and i pay the bliimin thing. And whats worse is that she comes in from work late at night and watches this Gory BB crap and i still cant get the Tv until times at the weekends.
Edit: She isnt my wife yet on top of that huh.gif

Sounds like there's still time Gibby

Put the foot down

It's either ME or that effin telly-and you'll be
FREE AT LAST
mortonjag 2007-06-07 15:18:05
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 7 2007, 03:06 PM) [snapback]285671[/snapback]
Our lads played Hamilton up at Parklea in a mish mash under 19's (that is us not them obviously). We only narrowly got beaten and we missed the chance of an equaliser when Loughran missed a penalty . You could see Hamiltons youth set up was well organised by the way the boys passed the ball around with one touch football . He exercises that they did before the game also showed a better level of coaching than our lads are getting . It is most evident in games . So thats why it is vital to have the best coaching made available .

Ah-but you see it's not quite as simple as that-there is a master plan afoot-rumour has it that MR Rae is planning to scrap the WHOLE youth set up to save another £1,000,000 which will go towards the purchase of six state of the art Pie Ovens in recognition of Stirling's unbelievable promotion to the SPL, during which five of their under twenty one year olds receive 'POTM' awards.
mortonjag 2007-06-07 15:24:29
QUOTE(TonGa @ Jun 7 2007, 03:08 PM) [snapback]285674[/snapback]
MJ is no doubt trying to wind up folk here with his comments. He is however entitled to his views no matter how extreme. What irritates me is if he is a man of medicine he should have spent much of his life trying to find solutions to problems based on robust, sound evidence. It is unusal for a doc to say "i'm right cause i know i'm right". He can give no source for his views that DR is an autocrat nor any for his view that JM is a yes man. He just knows so we should believe.

Well thats your view MJ, as pointless as it is express it, if it makes you feel better so be it. You won't find many takers for your view.

Oh and another thing, you often make very personal and abusive comments toward fellow posters, perhaps you should identify yourself if you are going to be personal and abusive and said posters can then discuss this with you face to face, man to man. Or are you like you describe DR as someone who talks the talk but is really just hiding behind the talk and has no action.

p.s. well done on the young burd, clearly she keeps you busy as you dont seem to have a lot of time to get online!

My recommendation to you-keep taking the tablets.

I may be trained in medicine-on here I'm a Ton fan and don't tell me what I should or shouldn't do. I've had p.m.'s before from folk whom I've upset, and we've always been able to laugh about it later soorpuss.

While I'm on-DDFR is also a common 5/8 Ton fan and sweetie maker-NO MORE NO LESS


and it f*cking shows! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-07 16:14:04
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Jun 7 2007, 03:40 PM) [snapback]285688[/snapback]
You have got to much time in hands MJ time take up a hobby or something the amount of post you make are not real with 95% critical of the club/Rae. I remember before christmas your were critical of the club and the way it was being run however when the chance to put the questions to Rae and McInally at an open forum came about you were otherwise engaged.The time has come for you with all your views on how both the team and the club are run to be put to the said men i have in the past written to Rae and spoken to McInally and found them both very approchable even when I was critical of the way thinks were handled by the club infact received reply by fax within an hour of sending it all that I was told in connection to my complaint happened.However being the man you are you probaly would not believe what they told you

I'm glad your issues were so easily solved pgmsc-I presume they were of gargantuan proportions-why don't you share with us all the improvement at Scapa made at your very beck and call.

You clearly take me for a fool, and that I am not. I've spent my whole life being pleasant to people with concerns and worries-it's not difficult to be pleasant and listen.

I'm repeatedly reminded by your ilk that the board are well aware of what goes on on this forum. If they really give a f*ck about what I, or anybody else thinks, we can be p.m.'d or e-mailed, but instead we're described as 'a rag'.

Instead of criticising me and blowing your own trumpet-enter the world of reality. DDFR does not hear, though he may appear to listen when it suits him.
mortonjag 2007-06-07 16:21:13
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 7 2007, 03:41 PM) [snapback]285689[/snapback]
Well said.
tongue.gif = amn't I pleased with myself.

But OK, read back on the posts, most posters are laughing at him.

better?
Well done.
Not only is that not funny its not even clever.

Actually when you realise its written by an old retired man who sits on-line all day, it's a wee bit weird. mellow.gif

FFs-a man of profundity indeed-nobody is allowed to criticise the Lord God DDFR or he is suddenly some worthless leper-we've had it before, and will needless to say always get it from mindless sycophants-and all they ever say is--

'Dougie put in the money so shut up youse'-brilliant-absolutely mind bogglingly brilliant. wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-07 16:30:44
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Jun 7 2007, 04:23 PM) [snapback]285705[/snapback]
Mmmmmm let me think now rolleyes.gif Ah, could it have been at one DDFR's public meetings where you were allowed to ask questions..

Don't tell me!!!!!!!!!!!! You couldn't make it dry.gif If it was that important you would make the effort like everybody else.

You're very selective-my daughter gave birth to her first child two weeks early on that very day, and I posted an apology at the time. You have simply clocked another poster's comments today.

I have challenged you before about 'inside knowledge' when you made a complete arse of yourself, claiming that I was a 'menace' and effectively undermining the promotion challenge single handed because I DARED to ask questions.

Now you pathetically claim your knowledge is 'based on information dished out for general consumption', yet earlier today you were assuring us in NO uncertain terms that you KNEW.

You are an insider at the club so far as I am concerned-either that, or sycophant supreme.

Come to think of it those are not mutually exclusive.
mortonjag 2007-06-07 16:40:22
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 7 2007, 03:40 PM) [snapback]285687[/snapback]
He's an engineer. laugh.gif

hmm mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-07 16:43:19
QUOTE(Roger Mellie @ Jun 7 2007, 04:24 PM) [snapback]285706[/snapback]
MortonFag, I wish I was as clever as you. Can we be friends?

Only if you enjoy the habits of monkeys and heffalumps.
mortonjag 2007-06-07 16:43:44
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jun 7 2007, 04:37 PM) [snapback]285715[/snapback]
stop trying to steal my best mate

wub.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-07 16:45:23
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 7 2007, 04:15 PM) [snapback]285701[/snapback]
I'm Deegan! unsure.gif

Is that not your name young man? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-08 04:25:26
QUOTE(tontastic @ Jun 7 2007, 04:51 PM) [snapback]285723[/snapback]
In the interests of democracy and freedom of speech that MJ attests to from time to time, i have altered the thread to include a poll so that we can almost scientifically measure if other Morton supporters share the same opinion.

Thanks for that Mr Tontastic-the poll is a sensible idea-already with almost sixty votes, it's almost coming out as a carbon copy of the Taxi for McInally one -UNTIL HE F*CKED UP AT STIRLING rolleyes.gif

I'm not quite sure what's meant by the statement that 'from time to time' I attest to democracy, and freedom of speech.

I believe in them at all times.

DO YOU?
mortonjag 2007-06-08 04:27:32
QUOTE(TonGa @ Jun 7 2007, 05:06 PM) [snapback]285727[/snapback]
If this is your medical view then i will ignore it

I said you are entitled to express your view, but if you are going to abuse people then i think you should be a man about it, if folk laugh with you when you call them effin c's etc than fair enough.

Tell us what he has done outside football to make you so bitter, come on spit it out it will make you feel better.

And I HAVE.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 04:36:35
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 7 2007, 07:16 PM) [snapback]285765[/snapback]
I can understand MJ's sentiments . If there was one thing that DDFR should have learned from past regimes that the supporters have concerns when faults are highlighted only for the chairman to dismiss them out of hand .
This has arisen because of problems within the Youth System . DDFR has stated that everything is on track , he did not say that due to the cost we had to scale our system down .
Yet I have witnessed for myself , bad organisation , a lack of structured training . These elements are not visible with any of the opposition teams I have seen over 2 and a half years .
We have 3 teams and I would estimate about 60 boys on our books . I would think most Boys clubs in the area manage more teams and players . Yet they are volunteers , have to arrange sponsorship .
Why didn't we look down this avenue before opting for this present system .
If we are saying that a youth system was too expensive compared to the reward then I would also level that complaint about remaining a fulltime team while not achieving . However we don't see a financial breakdown of this . Is that because that is DDFR's decision .
Why does the club have to reside with DDFR can he not look to work with another investor .
If the harsh reality is that we can't afford a youth system although last season we added an under 13's to qualify for an SFA grant .
Then lets get it out in the open , let the fans have the facts . The longer these questions remain unanswered the more problems will fester .

That is my point in a 'nutshell'. I'll repeat, and no doubt NOT for the last time-I HAVE NO PERSONAL ISSUE WITH MR RAE.

I firmly believe his 'hands on' approach is now bad for progress. I have repeatedly suggested the idea of Honorary Chairmanship. He does not have to rescind total power, but he MUST learn to delegate.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 04:39:59
QUOTE(Toby @ Jun 7 2007, 07:22 PM) [snapback]285767[/snapback]
I obviously can't resist posting on a thread like this, not being Rae's biggest fan.

Rae's done some great things for the club, although bringing "success" (I use the term loosely as it is merely a return to our natural level) has been somewhat delayed, by some poor decision making at a number of stages in the past five years, not all by him.

I found the quote about running Morton until there isn't a breath left in his body quite revealling. Looking further into it, I'd be inclined to suggest Morton and Golden Casket as a whole will be the death of him. Not wanting to suggest he's on his last legs, he seems a pretty fit man for his age, but when his health does begin to deteriorate, I can't see him handing over the reigns to anyone, Crawford included. Also, I've already found some of the stuff he's said pretty baffling, what happens if his mind starts to wander in his old age? Like it or not, he will not take no for an answer.

He's always be popular with the "Doooooogie!!!!" brigade, as much as a result of what his predecessor did to the club as for what he's done for it. While I accept and appreciate what he's done for Morton, I simply don't like him as a man, just like there's plenty other Morton fans I don't like and don't like me. The rallying calls on the pitch I find nothing short of an embarassing ego trip, and the way he slaughtered the fans for a low turnout at the Forfar game in December was plain insulting.

On the positive, there's probably never been a more genuine Morton fan in conrol of the club in it's history, the club going into the first division is unrecognisable from the one that left it in 2001. Also I'd be inclined to think that every decision he's made, whether right or wrong has intended to be for the club's benefit.

I wouldn't say taxi for Rae, he's obviously a very good businessman as he wouldn't be worth the money he's worth if he wasnt, but he's not the best in the world at everything and has to understand that other people can bring something to the club. Not only outside investors, those from inside the club too who must often feel stifled when everything has to go through Rae.

Almost exactly how I see it Toby.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 04:43:28
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jun 7 2007, 07:51 PM) [snapback]285779[/snapback]
At least one of the interested parties are serious about investing in Morton and taking them to another level.
To dismiss approaches out of hand could be to our detrement in the future.
I think DDF is DUTY BOUND to listen to any party who have an interest in Morton, if they are pie-in-the-sky or fly-by-nights they will be sent packing, but this would be difficult to do with one of the potential buyers.

DDF Helped to save Morton, he did not do this on his own, but we have been through all that. If an investor is willing to leap our club forward, as a paying customer, I want to know, and so should all Morton fans.

Owners are only custodians are far as I am concerned.

...and taking your post, and Toby's post as one, what's being said is that Mr Rae is ultimately more interested in his own ego trip, than in what's REALLY best for GMFC.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 04:47:13
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jun 7 2007, 08:22 PM) [snapback]285794[/snapback]
You missed my point. All employees have to do what their boss tells them whether he's a micro-manager or not.

Sorry itchy baws-we've moved on. Employment law, PC regulations, Health and Safety issues etc., make it well nigh impossible for a boss of any RESPECTABLE AND LAW ABIDING COMPANY to rule with a rod of iron. This is the 21st century.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 04:52:36
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jun 7 2007, 08:47 PM) [snapback]285804[/snapback]
Lets be brutally honest here if it wasn't for Dougie we would not have a club to support and this sught would not exist, Dougie is an easy target, he has made a business decision with regards the under 17's. No-one wants to see these kids on the scrap heap or go to other clubs if they have genuine potential, I am pretty sure that it would not be just Dougie involved in this decision. If it provides better funding for players for the senior team then all well and good,but, taxi for Dougie, that is bang out of order.

Everything that he has done has been in the best interests of the club, sure he can be off the wall with a microphone in his hands but he has been bailing out a club that has been making a loss since he took over, some of that could have been averted by a better commercial system but I would rather have him than some other loonatic who talks the talk and takes over but fails miserably to deliver promises.

Some folk should just be grateful that we have someone like him at the helm, he has a vested personal interest in the club and I do not beieve for one minute that he would go out of his way to "sabotage" the club. There have been some good valid points on this thread but there is also an element of loonacy.

Lets just wait and see what happens before we start calling taxis for anyone I believe that the current regime has been and still is in the best interests of morton football club.

So in closing stop the slagging and bitching and get behind the regime........................................or we may end up with someone like Hugh Scott in charge.

There ARE certain similarities already, if only that both men ultimately appear to think they know better than everybody else when it comes to running a football club.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 04:54:53
QUOTE(Youngsa @ Jun 7 2007, 09:18 PM) [snapback]285814[/snapback]
One man - too much power - its not healthy. If Dougie doesn't want to give up the job then what about a share issue or allow a major investor a seat on the board to put forward any alternative opinions.

Examples of Dougies way going wrong are evident at Ibrox and Tynecastle where Vlad employs only those who will do his bidding and I have been told that Murray and his suntanned lackey have now been quoted telling the Rangers fans that if they dont like whats going on regarding the running of the club to not bother coming back.

Maybe the Trust should look at using the money they raise to buy shares to have a greater say in the running of the club if the allegations on another post are true regarding the funds from sportsmans dinners not going to the youth set up

That is the whole point!
mortonjag 2007-06-08 04:59:49
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jun 7 2007, 09:44 PM) [snapback]285822[/snapback]
he is an easy target as are all men in charge, true the fans have been good with dougie but there is a minority as most posters have proved who just want to have a pop with unfounded allegations.

you do as I do have a right to complain but it seems as though everything is dougies fault, it has nothing to do with the management team or the players who only turned up when they felt like it on a saturday, questions need to be asked about some players commitment before the chairmans which is undoubted.

." Come on, that was years ago now, it's time we moved on." that it may be but believe this the next guy who takes over at cappielow will most probably not have the club at heart and will no doubt be a con man who screws wee old folks houses for a living. say no more.

If you meant 'stating honestly held opinions, based on a little evidence'-which I am not about to discuss here-AS I DO HAVE RESPECT FOR PRIVACY AND CONFIDENTIALITY, I guess I'm one of those.

Stating honest opinions-having a 'pop' even- are part of healthy debate.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 05:02:04
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ Jun 7 2007, 10:36 PM) [snapback]285844[/snapback]
There is quite a bit going on within the higher echelons of the club that really pi$$ me right off at times, ask a few of those involved in some of the travel clubs and they'll probably agree that the Club at times treats them for granted or as though they - the travel clubs - should "owe" Morton FC Dougie, Crawford , Gillian D et all something.

Without the support this club is nothing.

I wouldnt quite call for a taxi for Rae, but maybe he could start changing the direction in which he is driving..


JB.

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mortonjag 2007-06-08 05:07:29
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jun 7 2007, 11:51 PM) [snapback]285880[/snapback]
stated in my post that the commercial side could be better correct, and that is unlikely to change until more professional dynamic and football orientated individuals with a mind for the fans get the job. as it stands and how it has been has been a mine field of missed opportunitys for making real profit. We have always sold new strips at the start of a new season......................................which is crap, granted.

Dougie might well be a dithering old git but his heart and his money has been there and for the half wits out there who want to take shots at him, think back to the bad days, think about previous owners, be daft and think oh that wont happen again......................................................wake up and smell the coffee it just may well do.

if anyone has a morton minded person they can pull from thier sphincter with money to take over from ddfr then please do so but it is crap that people want to bite off the hand that feeds when there is no better to take over.

here endeth the lesson.

When it comes to the running of Golden Casket, it appears he's anything but a dithering old git.

On the pitch at Cappielow he appears to be just that. Why the strange difference?

BECAUSE GMFC is Dougie's hobby-his toy-and everything that goes with it are Dougie's playthings-including US-the fans, and our money.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 05:09:59
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 8 2007, 12:56 AM) [snapback]285898[/snapback]
Tontastic,

Why did you feel the need to create a poll asking others to categorise Mortonjags opinion?

Folk on here may agree/disagree with what he is saying, some may think its serious/not serious, some may think its boring and tedious, but EVERYTHING related to Morton FC, both on and off the park, is worthy of discussion on a forum for Morton supporters.

I have plenty of opinions regarding Morton, not all of them would be pleasing to those that think the toothrotter will give us all a suntan next time he bends over, but they are the thoughts and opinions of a genuine Morton supporter. We all love the club in our own different ways, you would do well to remember that.

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PMSL!!!
mortonjag 2007-06-08 05:35:38
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 7 2007, 05:34 PM) [snapback]285733[/snapback]
What the feck is litosis? blink.gif

The opposite of 'Hype'.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 05:36:06
QUOTE(Youngsa @ Jun 7 2007, 09:05 PM) [snapback]285810[/snapback]
I went with the assumption that it was Hal's surname laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2007-06-08 05:37:13
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jun 7 2007, 10:11 PM) [snapback]285837[/snapback]
You first old yin..

Thanks-been there for a LONG time!
mortonjag 2007-06-08 05:44:28 Everybody's been putting in his tuppenceworth-none of us can see the whole picture.

What IS clear, is that questions were posed about the running of our youth system, and, as on every single occasion his authority has been put in the spotlight, DDFR comes out with dismissively sweeping statements about everything being 'hunky dory', ridiculously introducing in the same interview, feeble excuses for a system he knows FINE WELL is not.

I'm being berated on the 'Taxi' thread for 'having a pop' with no evidence. That is VERY CLEAR EVIDENCE that the man is indeed at Cappielow, what Thatcher was in politics.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 05:59:43
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 7 2007, 06:48 PM) [snapback]285760[/snapback]
Its because she was 'depressed and having panic attacks' caused by being in jail. NO SH*T SHERLOCK!

She'll be drunk and behind the wheel of a car in no time dry.gif

Naughty!

No details of her medical condition were released.

It was pretty obvious from day one that this wee soul was totally 'f*cked up in the heid'.

She went to great lengths not only to damage herself, but to incur the wrath of the public-that's not normal behaviour.

Clearly she's been trying to deal with 'issues' for some time, and IMHO her parents have a lot to answer for.

There again, I'm not saying she's got a serious addictive personality defect, or for that matter may have bi-polar depression or mild schizophrenia.

They ARE possibilities though!
mortonjag 2007-06-08 06:03:28
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 7 2007, 08:21 PM) [snapback]285793[/snapback]
They're delaying tactics and lack of response for PAYING them to do a job that they failed to do without Issueing Legal Proceedings blink.gif

It always amuses me that the major clearing banks appear to spend more annually on ADVERTISING customer service, than on that.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 06:10:38
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 7 2007, 06:48 PM) [snapback]285759[/snapback]
They're lovely people really.
Erm, some of my best friends are engineers. rolleyes.gif

Where was it they done their training?
mortonjag 2007-06-08 06:13:27
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 7 2007, 10:37 PM) [snapback]285846[/snapback]
Old-yin,

I should be visiting UoG in the not too distant future. That is if we can wait to sign the bloody deal! To show that there are no hard feelings I will invite you for a coffee at the McIntyre building. It is cheap, it will provide relief to the other posters and most importantly it will make me feel as if I am doing my bit for care in the community.

I'd be delighted-mine's a large cappuchino-shall I endeavour to make it a threesome with the monkey's secretarial friend? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-08 06:17:42
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 8 2007, 12:14 AM) [snapback]285886[/snapback]
He remembers when the MacIntyre was GUU laugh.gif

..and the tatties, neeps, and haggis in onion gravy, washed down with ONE pint of cider for -as I re-call- 9d (the cider I mean) was a repast hard to match anywhere.

3.75 pence in decimal currency for a pint-eh!!
mortonjag 2007-06-08 06:25:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 8 2007, 02:53 AM) [snapback]285918[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

How did Sick matriculate without knowing about elephants, hippos and rhinos ?

We were taught about pachyderms in Miss Tannock's class in 1X at Greenock Academy in 1957.

Talk about evidence of dumbing down.
1957 - the education system teaches 5 year olds about pachyderms.

2007 - an alleged 18 year old states ... "It's a word I don't know, yes."
Do we have any real evidence that Sick has really left school - perhaps he is at a primary school with lots of Internet access for its dumbed down evironment.

Perhaps that's why he now claims that he lied about betting on the Faroe Islands.

The bookies wouldn't take a bet from a minor ?

very

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Oh I believe he's quite accomplished at matriculation, while looking at nice web sites on his boss's computer. Sometimes it's more than just a tricule, I believe.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 06:27:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 8 2007, 05:56 AM) [snapback]285972[/snapback]
Yagoona Lions

sunderland
mortonjag 2007-06-08 06:30:16
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 7 2007, 11:39 PM) [snapback]285874[/snapback]
I'm surprised the Masked Muslims haven't been saying BB is discriminating against them for not letting them in.

Have they had a 'hit' in Britain yet? smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-08 06:42:46 died 1375 years ago on this day.

Funny to think that Jesus was already dead some 600 years earlier.

Two guys who thought they knew what was best for everybody else, and look at the mess we're in! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-08 06:46:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 8 2007, 06:40 AM) [snapback]285984[/snapback]
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If Sick gets to be a cabin boy, I hope this does not happen to him.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=173778

no flies on 'Sicky'-in a jiffy he'll have matriculated his way into the bowels of the ship.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 06:49:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 8 2007, 06:47 AM) [snapback]285990[/snapback]
Mohammed is likely to become the most popular name for baby boys in Britain by the end of the year, The Times has reported, citing government data.
When will a Mohammed play for the Ton ?

And when he scores a hat trick ...

Morton's Mohammed makes mincemeat of the Midden.

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This one confuses me. I thought every Muslim male's 'Christian' name was Mohammed. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-08 06:53:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 8 2007, 06:51 AM) [snapback]285994[/snapback]
they claim it ran aground because of leaking ballast ????

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when everybody knows the brakes failed.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 07:09:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 8 2007, 06:56 AM) [snapback]285996[/snapback]
would you believe, leaking brake fluid ?

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mortonjag, you're a wee bit slow this morning, mate.

'leaking ballast' you said at first! laugh.gif

Aye good luck to Mick in the nautical bowels. BTW is it a Tramp he's about to get on ?
mortonjag 2007-06-08 07:11:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 8 2007, 07:08 AM) [snapback]286000[/snapback]
Canadian doctors say an emergency operation in Vancouver has turned into a scene from the X-files when the patient started shedding green blood.

Tests show the 42-year-old man isn't a visiting alien.

Surgeons were startled by his dark greenish-black blood.

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Sounds like acute bilirubinaemia-did they give any detail-OR has Bobo Balde had a mishap on holiday?
mortonjag 2007-06-08 07:20:25
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 8 2007, 07:14 AM) [snapback]286003[/snapback]
I am sorry, but that diagnosis is incorrect.

Please try harder.

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The patient had clearly been abusing some preparation with a green dye colourant?
mortonjag 2007-06-08 07:21:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 8 2007, 07:17 AM) [snapback]286005[/snapback]
I think it could be a packet.

or is that "pack it" ?

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either way it'll be a big improvement on his daily tug.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 07:23:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 8 2007, 07:21 AM) [snapback]286009[/snapback]
do you need a wee clue ?
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Something to do with the lights in the theatre-wrong bulbs fitted perhaps?
mortonjag 2007-06-08 07:25:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 8 2007, 07:19 AM) [snapback]286006[/snapback]
Too bad some of his so called followers STILL DO.

AND we all know what Sick Mick will blame it on-though I don't necessarily agree.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 07:27:45
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jun 8 2007, 07:03 AM) [snapback]285999[/snapback]
Like he said. the only people who use language like this are those looking for a reaction or the terminally unpleasant.

bossy ticket collectors?
mortonjag 2007-06-08 07:32:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 8 2007, 07:27 AM) [snapback]286013[/snapback]
A wee clue - the patient suffers from chronic migraine headaches.

I presume you were not a pupil of Sir Lancelot Sprat ?

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Foxed by this one

Migraine, and green blood-treatment that might cause-herbal remedies like green tea-haven't really a clue NewTon.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 07:35:31
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 8 2007, 07:32 AM) [snapback]286016[/snapback]
Some Christian Democrats believe you must have one to go with the other.

So by imposing democracy, they are just introducing the thin edge of their Christian wedge.[/b]

[b]Did you know that there were Scottish missionaries in Sicily ?


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hmm-one of the commonest causes of STD I'm led to believe.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 07:41:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 8 2007, 07:34 AM) [snapback]286017[/snapback]

never heard of it obviously, though that's what causes the greenish tinge in hard boiled eggs.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 07:43:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 8 2007, 07:41 AM) [snapback]286020[/snapback]
Subscriber Truck Dialling ??

Many Italians claim that Antonio Meucci invented the telephone.

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Sexually transmitted diseases

as Connolly described them

DISEASES OF THE WILLY
mortonjag 2007-06-08 07:48:16
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 8 2007, 07:37 AM) [snapback]286019[/snapback]
looks like Sick Mick is taking a sickie and having a long weekend.

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he'll be busy packing for his voyage-lets hope he doesn't forget all those little necessities for a life on the ocean wave:

probably he'll change his name to C Sick MIck.

mortonjag 2007-06-08 07:56:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 8 2007, 06:34 AM) [snapback]285983[/snapback]
Doyalson Wyee Soccer Club

The Doylo Wolves

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http://www.doyalsonwyeesoccerclub.org.au/

Southend
mortonjag 2007-06-08 08:06:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 8 2007, 08:04 AM) [snapback]286026[/snapback]
Dural United

derby county
mortonjag 2007-06-08 08:31:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 8 2007, 08:12 AM) [snapback]286029[/snapback]
Yerrinbool Bargo Soccer Club
http://www.ybsc.com.au/

birmingham city
mortonjag 2007-06-08 08:38:56 Best case scenario- coincidental planning consent for redevelopment of Scapa and for suitable new site (with community involvement). Developer of Cappielow advances cash and new Stadium is built pronto avoiding ground sharing-remaining profit goes to GMFC.

Pie in the sky-probably, and I'd rather stay where we are anyway.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 08:43:12
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 8 2007, 08:39 AM) [snapback]286034[/snapback]

Is It 8.37 Am ?

8.40-maybe he's chickened out and his train's chugging into Glasgow Central while he's chugging into his pants, and reading the Da Vinci Code.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 08:44:20
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 8 2007, 08:37 AM) [snapback]286032[/snapback]
Yarrambat Junior Football Club

Bradford s***ty
mortonjag 2007-06-08 08:56:53
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jun 8 2007, 08:43 AM) [snapback]286036[/snapback]
Well done Mortonjag, you have got the board responding once more to an unfair and unecessary attack on our chairman. Have you ever watched the U-17s in question? (I have not read the whole thread, so don't know if you have or not) Could it be that they are simply not that great an intake? It would not make good business to run a team which at the end of the day will not produce anything, and there is no point in using the club's money to run a side for the sake of it. I think it would be almost guarunteed that if the U17s had a plethora of talent, the team would still be run.

I do agree that the youth system seems to have fallen by the wayside in recent years; but I think that's understandable given that our very "patient" fanbase wanted promotion, therefore we spent the money on signing the likes of Peter, Jamie, Temps etc in order to improve the first team. In that time only Jim McAlister has come through the ranks to any extent, plus Keenan and possibly Craig Black next season, which is a wee bit disappointing, but at the same time not much different to a lot of clubs. Perhaps once we have regular division one status, we will look to improve the youth teams.

I also wonder whether it would be beneficial in the meantime to have a strong affiliation/agreement with the top local boys' clubs in the area so that we get first choice of their best players and in return offer some form of sponsorship, either financial or perhaps letting out Quarriers when we are not using it.

You normally post sensible stuff Dino-who stole yer scone. wink.gif

An unfair and uneccessary attack on our Chairman-possibly, but you've admitted to not having read the whole thread. There's a great deal of informed input about the youth set up.

It's refreshing to hear that the real reason for the debacle is that, as always, Dougie was meekly bowing to the demands of baying fans.

AYE RIGHT

That's palpably ridiculous in the extreme. DDFR spent the money the way HE thought would get him the success HE (and we) wanted, and took far longer to produce the goods than an experienced director of football could have done with the same cash.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 09:00:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 8 2007, 08:46 AM) [snapback]286038[/snapback]
In 1963, the steamer express from Greenock West to Glasgow Central took 44 minutes.

How long does the train take these days ?

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Not much difference. How long did the Princes Pier to Glasgow via Kilmacolm express take-or is that the same one?
mortonjag 2007-06-08 10:28:20
QUOTE(tigerh @ Jun 8 2007, 10:14 AM) [snapback]286069[/snapback]
Guys, Finally decided to get involved in this debate. Haven't been on the board for a wee while. This subject is one which I was very close to being heavily involved in the youth set up over 30 years ago. At that time the system was to sign only a few players on S forms at ages 13 - 16. This meant that we tried to get the best local players all the time and at the end of the season there were only decisions to be made on 4 possibly 5 young players in terms of signing them on pro /provisional forms. We tried to have a maximum of 20 S forms between those ages. It is out of the question that any club never mind Morton can take on e.g. 30 young players under 19 over three seasons. We had good success then with young players - Orr, McNeil, McLaughlin, Tolmie, McNab, Doak, etc making the first team and some being sold on after serving the club well. Things were easier then because the young players were allowed to stay with their juvenile clubs until decision time and Morton enjoyed good relationships with the vast majority of local clubs. All of the S forms and the best recommended players came to train once or twice a week and we brought them together every couple of weeks to play matches. We did have a good number of scouts then and both they and the players were given expenses every month. In many ways we led the way and could easily compete against the old firm etc for young players. The next regime under Jake Anderson also enjoyed great success. Jake had exerience of running a team with Gourock United and many of the players continued to play with Gourock YAC. The number of players who made the first team were exceptional as were the transfer fees picked up by the club. At that time there was tension because Morton themelves tried to run a youth team and naturally enough clubs did not want to lose the players who sometimes were playing against the teams they had signed from in the same league. Then the world changed with the advent of professional youth leagues. A brand new ball game. Its clear that many posters on the board have formed their own opinions of Morton's involvement in this set up. What seems clear to me is that to adequately run this you must have access to regular, decent training facilities- have a customised pitch to play your matches on and of course have the best coaches looking after the young players. I cannot agree that asking your professional players to run teams will ever work. Help out and encourage yes - but actually being responsible for the teams and the players, is in my opinion a big mistake....and perhaps unfair on the players - a very early start on a sunday after a particularly difficult away match on a saturday is definitely not on. I believe that the club did in fact consider running a competent youth system under Joe McLaughlin and were on the right tracks as results and players coming through showed great promise - however because of the problems identified earlier - training, playing facilities, transport problems, lack of communication, debates over funding, kit, etc , Joe decided to go. Although to his credit he never publicly made any statement -to my knowledge anyway- about his reasons for doing so. I've seen the figure of 60K mentioned to run this. Presumably this included Joe's salary and the small amounts being paid to the coaches. Given that the SFA make grants to clubs based on their youth set up along the lines of number of teams - qualification of coaches - community presence- playing and training facilities etc. it was not inconceivable that the club could recover a large portion of this money. If the youth fund raising money was added it looks like the costs could have been covered. Although I have no idea about some of the points made here about youth finance. I'm no longer close to this however what's also clear is that local clubs appear reluctant to release players to Morton given that they are not confident that the Morton set up is any better than their own. (The point made here about players going to matches in cars, sitting outside Parklea, having no knowledge of games being called off, hardly smacks of being a professional club. And probably wouldn't happen with juvenile clubs). For what its worth I believe that the manager must take an interest in his youth set up. His priority is obviously the first team but over the years I know from first hand experience that Gilroy, Rooney, Millar, McLean, McGraw did take an active interest. It could be that the Morton management have made a conscious decision to build their youth set up on the young players released by the old firm and perhaps are going through the motions locally. ...although I have no idea if this is true. If it is then the young players and parents should not be under any illusions on the prospects of their kids. Finally, and i'm sorry for the length of this, not communicating with young players is in my opinion, unforgiveable. Its not fair to have aspirations destroyed without proper counselling. In my days a hundred years ago, every signed young player was taken in on a specific day and spoken to personally by the manager and his staff. That's my tuppence worth over for another year or so. Personally I think its a great pity that good young players are going outside the district. Its aways happened and always will but at least Morton should be an option. However its hard to see what exactly the benefits are nowadays for young players who are taking this option. I hope this has not proved too boring and seems like the rants of an old codger - which it is !

They sound very well informed and reasonable rants-'old codger', but don't imagine anybody will listen, 'cos Dougie told them different, and Dougie knows 'cos he's the chairman so he must know etc., etc., etc., ad effin infinitum. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-08 10:33:50
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 8 2007, 10:29 AM) [snapback]286079[/snapback]
unfortunately not, cobber. there's feckin legions of the glory-hunting twats in greenock. they breed early and often.

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mortonjag 2007-06-08 10:36:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 8 2007, 09:18 AM) [snapback]286050[/snapback]
Sadly, mortonjag, I was/am correct.

Following the closure of the railway line in 1959.
http://www.greenock-town.co.uk/princes_pier.html
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Gee whiz-we used to go down to the station at Kilmacolm just to see them fly through. Yes-they were taking ocean going passengers to Glasgow, and I'm guessing they would have done it in about 1/2 hr, even in those days. Maybe Nach0 can tell us.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 10:39:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 8 2007, 08:39 AM) [snapback]286034[/snapback]

Is It 8.37 Am ?

10.39-has he finally succumbed to his sickness? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-08 10:41:26 Don't worry-as always 'things are in hand' rolleyes.gif -it's just that we are not deemed worthy of updates.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 12:10:45
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 8 2007, 12:05 PM) [snapback]286132[/snapback]
What, you mean with Gillian? ohmy.gif

...I never tire of watching the first one-'sook my half-pounder'-if only we had the same raw talent on the pitch! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-08 12:27:20
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 8 2007, 11:05 AM) [snapback]286097[/snapback]
That's fair enough but when most of your posts on Dougie refer to "Old Shooglie" and other name calling and personal insults its no wonder some people accuse you of having a person grievance.

Some of your views have now been raised by posters like Toby who makes a reasoned argument without getting anyone's back up. I don't agree with most of Toby's points but I can see where he's coming from and I don't find his attitude offensive. He could teach you a thing or two.

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I'm so desperately sorry. I take it if I'd omitted to call Our Chairman MR Rae who art in his 70's (HALLOWED BE HIS NAME) 'Auld Shoogly'-my fun pokingly affectionate term, (which was, incidentally, NOT coined by me), YOU, and Tontastic, et al would have been as happy as sand boys with my every word! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Seems to me the said Toby-who 'could teach me a thing or two' has been the victim of his own outspokenness IN REAL LIFE (as at Stirling and Kirkcaldy)-NOT that I think his views were wrong.

All I've done is 'poke fun' on 'this rag'.

Mind you, you'd imagine the Rae's would know better than to resort to 'name calling'.

After all they are SO worthy of unmitigated respect for....erm selling sweeties and buying themselves a wee fitba' club with the profits.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 12:33:36
QUOTE(TonGa @ Jun 8 2007, 12:04 PM) [snapback]286131[/snapback]
Totally agree with this, it's not the content of MJ's comments that cause me a problem, i may not agree but thats life. It's the stance taken with others who state an alternative view that is unneccessary for example from this thread alone -

Haggis Heid, Gaelic Goolies, c***atoo, C ockaleekie Colon, arse licking f*d, as your tongue longs for the Chairman's nether parts, soorpuss,

I'll say one thing though he does show great variety in insults.

Most of those jibes were made in OBVIOUS jest to a poster who has ably returned the banter. A four year old could spot the tongue just about perforating my cheek!

Alluding to my professional experience, he claimed yesterday that 'Shipman had probably saved more lives than me'.

Now would you like to GROW up, or will I be reported to Mr Tontastic for daring to imply you're a wean? mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-08 12:40:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 8 2007, 10:48 AM) [snapback]286090[/snapback]
naw, he's gone to see his sailor.

12.40-they've been together for quite a while.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 12:43:03
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 8 2007, 11:46 AM) [snapback]286116[/snapback]
Yeah that's a fair point but correct or politically correct I still think if they want to give us Reality TV they should make it reality.
Don't remove her like BB is the judge of our morals, just let us watch her, judge her and then maybe vote her out if we feel she deserves that.

So it wasn't as naughty as my calling MR Rae 'Auld Shoogly' in fun then?

WELL? mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-08 12:46:51
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 8 2007, 12:00 PM) [snapback]286130[/snapback]
Gidday arklesTON.

From what would you like the Almighty to protect the Ton ???

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Alliterations!

Mohammed McGregor, Mohammed Millar, Mohammed McLaughlin, Mohammed McGowan, and Mohammed McAlister.

Mind you Mohammed Templeman might sound better as Mohammed Mosquelman.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 12:48:40
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 8 2007, 12:42 PM) [snapback]286167[/snapback]
It is 12:41. Now 12:42.

12.48--WHERE is he?
mortonjag 2007-06-08 12:59:15
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 8 2007, 12:52 PM) [snapback]286174[/snapback]
Allsorts of balls.

Penny Gilda pops her whirly.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 13:01:22
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 8 2007, 12:57 PM) [snapback]286180[/snapback]
Read it again rolleyes.gif

Can you spot anywhere where I've said it wasn't a bad thing to say?
No neither can I.
Try again.

and did I say it was naughty? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-08 13:04:05
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jun 8 2007, 12:59 PM) [snapback]286183[/snapback]
Brothers , Sisters ; I don't know why for sure , but this thread has had me pissing with laughter in an internet cafe in Indonesia on the muslim island of gilli trawangan. every single post has restored my faith in getting a good laugh on here ; ps , anyone looking for 'transport to the moon' ? 'maybe tomorrow ?'

That wee Mohammed McGuffie's a rer wee player an a'.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 13:06:39
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 8 2007, 01:04 PM) [snapback]286190[/snapback]
for f***'s sake, now blowjobs are banned. who owns this site, walt f***ing disney?

blow task-sook job-rim the polisman's helmet-take it in the mooth

GAMMY


Just testing.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 13:28:24
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 8 2007, 01:09 PM) [snapback]286197[/snapback]
Eh? unsure.gif

Please read carefully. I didn't at any point in this discussion say Emily was right nor did I condone or defend her use of the N word.

There for there is no comparison or reason for you to mention that I find your personal insults and name calling aggravating.

Do try again.- or give up.

You described her as 'nice but dim', and said she should 'be allowed to say what she likes', and WE should judge her.

On that basis, I merely suggested that perhaps you saw my calling MR Rae- 'Auld Shoogly' as more naughty in the fantasy world of 'real hoops' censorship.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 13:39:30
QUOTE(TonGa @ Jun 8 2007, 01:28 PM) [snapback]286210[/snapback]
Tounge in cheek or not your a disgrace, in my view.

As is your spelling!

Are you for real-are you indeed Crawford Rae-as has been suggested?


NO personal information on your profile I notice.

Just in case you need reminding TonGa, Crawford, or whatever gentle soul you may be, visits to this forum are not compulsary, though in my very humble opinion this 'rag' is a brilliant mixture of the totally ridiculous, AND very serious discussions on all manner of topics, by highly intelligent posters, many of whom occupy positions of considerable power and authority in society.

If you feel unable to cope-there is an extremely simple solution.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 13:44:53
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jun 8 2007, 01:28 PM) [snapback]286212[/snapback]
Cappie Gets Happy

Cowshed Bukkake

'Rae's a dick'.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 13:59:04
QUOTE(TonGa @ Jun 8 2007, 01:48 PM) [snapback]286223[/snapback]
Thank you fot they spelin leson, yo ar soo inteligent

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Is that supposed to be witty?

No wonder you get so easily offended.

I do congratulate you though, for entering into the spirit of things-who knows, in a couple of weeks you may be calling me 'a decrepit geriatric paedo who jerks off into his porridge while reading chapter three of 'Songs of Solomon', and singing 'Jesus loves the little children' in falsetto. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-08 14:15:30
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 8 2007, 02:03 PM) [snapback]286231[/snapback]
Jesus H MJ,
Will you listen to yourself man!

Look back, I haven’t tried to censor anybody (ever) I merely think that your constant personal name calling of Dougie Rae is tiresome irksome and allows other people to presume that you have some person grievance with the Chairman.

As for the BB thing. Yes I do think she should be allowed to make a fool of herself by talking pish or insulting people races or religions. Let the public watch her and debate if she is racist or not and vote her out.

It’s both the censorship and enforced nannying I object to.

For example, in an earlier BB one girl(Emma?) aggressively called another house-mate (Vince?) by the N word. This was not shown on TV but the girl was removed.

Yet this year Chnl 4 chose to broadcast the non-aggressive use of the offensive N word by a naïve wee silly girl. Not only do they broadcast the use of the word themselves but at 3 am the moral leaders of Chnl 4 took her out her bed and into a room in front of a camera and chastised and humiliated her for some time (for our benefit?) then removed her from the house.

- I just wonder, Why the change of stance from the previous year?

You actually present a very good balanced case when you take the trouble-you've gone up in my estimation-just a tad-mind. wink.gif

Now where were we-aye 'AULD SHOOGLY'-c'mon man do you think he'd ever get those slightly naughty names if he didn't put himself right up there in the firing line.

A guy in his mid seventies who sees himself as some latter day Billy Graham on the Scapa pitch, who every two weeks produces that beloved comedy piece 'From the Chairman's desk', and who can cavort with boys young enough to be his great grandchildren in the unashamed way he did at Kirkcaldy, is fair game IMO.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 14:20:37
QUOTE(TonGa @ Jun 8 2007, 02:06 PM) [snapback]286234[/snapback]
Witty - not at all. Just taking the subservient postion one should adopt in your prescence. How could any other poster get close to the levels of original comedy genius you post on here, we are in the company of greatness.

Good.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 14:21:51
QUOTE(TonGa @ Jun 8 2007, 02:11 PM) [snapback]286236[/snapback]
Oh sorry MJ presence!

Better.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 14:28:02
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Jun 8 2007, 02:05 PM) [snapback]286233[/snapback]
Well we are all entitled to our opinion you think that Mr Salmond is the best thing to happen to Scotland in ages while I think is a stuck up little p**k with a mesa complex

Edit to add: it doesn’t take much to stand and talk to people for 2 minuets even if you don’t support there what thy stand for. That’s what I see as being true democracy opening up debate.

Anything ells like just waking past people who are asking to speak to you is just plain ignorance

I agree with you wholeheartedly Pedro-bawheid's a pr*ck like every politician in the land.

His private secretary writes quite a good letter, though it could have been said in plain English in about a quarter of the space. More profligate wastage of taxpayers' money. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-08 14:34:53 14.34

has he fallen overboard? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-08 14:37:48
QUOTE(DougieDave @ Jun 7 2007, 07:48 PM) [snapback]285778[/snapback]
The Fringe is for Gays and St Midden fans.............

Then trot along with yer Ton scarf round your neck-you'll be very welcome.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 14:39:09
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Jun 8 2007, 01:18 PM) [snapback]286205[/snapback]
think DougieDave has a pount on this one

Disagree-gays frequently have good taste.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 14:42:32
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 8 2007, 02:36 PM) [snapback]286244[/snapback]
they were both cool guys

don't blame them for the actions that others have carried out in their names.

Were they not responsible for the foreseeable consequences of their actions? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-08 14:44:16
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 8 2007, 02:39 PM) [snapback]286248[/snapback]
I've always liked him. Now I like him even more.

indeed a TOTAL p***k wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-08 14:45:10
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 8 2007, 01:19 PM) [snapback]286206[/snapback]
East Fife

elgin s***ty
mortonjag 2007-06-08 14:57:53
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Jun 8 2007, 02:48 PM) [snapback]286255[/snapback]
Cappielow Cumshots

Saucy Sinclair Street sex

If there's grass on the pitch (Too far?? lol)

floodlight F*cking

Jim's Jism

Dougie's Dogging

Ryan Hardon Vol 1

Greacen's Gangbang's

God I'm bored in work!! tongue.gif

How Farrell Gregory go?

Donald's on a promise.

Dougie me a swatch.

Cappie gets it Arfur




mortonjag 2007-06-08 15:03:08
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 8 2007, 02:48 PM) [snapback]286254[/snapback]

There may be Fatwahs ahead.


Looks like DE will be sharing a flat wie Salman Rushdie.

at 1/2, 361 Allison St., Govanhill, where he is affectionately known as 'the hunchbank who shops wi' a pram'.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 15:06:36
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 8 2007, 02:48 PM) [snapback]286256[/snapback]
I presume you are referring to when the players picked him on their shoulders. From where I was he had no choice what's so ever in that and looked less comfortable about it than you felt. It does show though, unlike you, these boys young enough to be his great grandchildren (slight exaggeration for effect there don't you think) have a great deal of affection and respect for what he's done for them and Morton FC.

Calling Dougie " Old Shooglie" every time you mention him is like the wee St Mirren fans that come on here every now and then and type Morton as M*rt*n. It's boring and makes you appear petty and bitter.

You're not are you?

I shouldn't be allowed to judge myself-ask Auld Shoogly if he's offended. If he says 'Aye', I'll stop doing it, and probably start going to Firhill.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 15:12:03
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 8 2007, 11:23 AM) [snapback]286105[/snapback]
Doubt that the Jewish Bloke next Door would be too enamoured of Fascism. The Asian family next to him don't seem part of the BNP's target audience.
I suppose that there are some BNP minded people but I was refering to the growth in BNP support. It seems to me that where the BNP garners votes it does so on discontent from traditional labour working class voters who feel that the labour party has abandoned them.

Some Labour politicians think so too.

...and Tommy Sheridan moves in next week?
mortonjag 2007-06-08 15:16:50 To paraphrase Orwell, 'All animals are equal, and some will ALWAYS want to be more equal than others'.

IMHO opinion those who embrace Marxism are deluded, skint, or both.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 15:54:51 Gentlemen-time please! wink.gif

Mr Tontastic-IMHO you provide an excellent service, and are entitled to appropriate recompense. I've always been an advocate of free enterprise.

My only concern is that you appear to share that interest with the capacity to censor input. In politics, that might be construed as having conflicting interests.

The forum runs very liberally-I am not being critical of you in particular, but it has been pointed out to me by Ewan, and by yourself, that ultimate decisions will always rest with the 'Gaffers', despite what the consensus of opinion may be.

Have I got this all mixed up? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-08 15:59:41
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jun 8 2007, 03:23 PM) [snapback]286272[/snapback]
You can disect the rights and wrongs of how this was communicated to Scotland but let's be honest, a large part of the FM's motivation to get stuck in about this was to set his stall out to Westminster and make it clear that the Scottish Gov is going to need a bit more respect than McConnell demanded.

To be fair to Wark she called him on it, made herself look a bit of a muppet at the same time but I think you're OTT with the who's she shagging put downs.

unsure.gif people SHAG Wark! ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-08 16:17:57
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 8 2007, 04:02 PM) [snapback]286288[/snapback]
Ach I dunno.

I would. unsure.gif

right enough, she's worth a few bob-

there again-

there's more to life than money! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-08 16:21:06
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 8 2007, 04:00 PM) [snapback]286287[/snapback]
Allison Street ohmy.gif There will be fatwahs ahead.

Au contraire-the most unlikely-ergo- safest refuge for the hunchback with the pram! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-08 16:24:52
QUOTE(Mr.Kennedy @ Jun 8 2007, 04:13 PM) [snapback]286294[/snapback]
She needs to be put in a boot camp or something...or put in a rocket and fired to the moon.

Give the wee soul peace-she's a latter day Joan of Arc-more sinned against than sinning-personality defect/mental illness in whatever combination are uncomfortable bedfellows of riches and fame.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 16:26:40
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 8 2007, 04:24 PM) [snapback]286300[/snapback]
.... you're right though MJ, she's also a Labour whoore. dry.gif

I wouldn't even with your wee tiny tootie tadger. :dryboak

she couldn't afford my wee tiny tootie tadger at any price! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-08 16:30:22
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 8 2007, 04:23 PM) [snapback]286299[/snapback]
Today's music- Back to Michael Jackson when he was a wee boy.

I want you back.

Cracking choon.

Total digression Mr Bam but I LOVE that word.

When my brother who is 14 years my junior was in primary school, those who get paid to make education complicated had introduced 'spell as it sounds'.

He has never lived down a wee composition he did, in which he described himself as playing 'choons on the peanow'. !
mortonjag 2007-06-08 16:43:14
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 8 2007, 04:32 PM) [snapback]286305[/snapback]
I'm sure she'll be devestated to hear that MJ.

You've got it wrong-I quoted her the price. cool.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-08 16:49:27
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 8 2007, 04:38 PM) [snapback]286306[/snapback]
Just a question

Who else within the Scottish League's havent had any transfer activity.

I will trust McInally to get decent signings at the end of the day, but if that fails then that will be the end of it.

I just checked the OFFICIAL web site. Not a sausage about ANYTHING for eight days, from a club whose Chairman is 'aiming for SPL status a.s.a.p'.

I think it's wrong to push the board IF they've got it sorted, but even a hint of acknowlement of our anxiety would go a long way to alleviating the type of criticism they're getting from yours truly and others.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 17:46:44
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jun 8 2007, 04:59 PM) [snapback]286311[/snapback]
MJ - has this not been done by the Chairman and Manager in the press saying that they are actively seeking/and speaking to certain players, even some that may have SPL experience. I dont know what more you would want them to say, as they cant really name names and alert other clubs.

If nothing has happened on the signing front in a few weeks from now, then I will be worried.

The 'Tilly' is not freely available to a fairly large number of fans Mack-I agree we shouldn't be pushing but quite frankly the official site is an embarrassment. It flatters to deceive with nice graphics and seemingly lots of content, but in terms of proactivity-ZILCH.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 17:48:09
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 8 2007, 05:13 PM) [snapback]286314[/snapback]
Away and take yer Ritalin and have a lie doon. If it's any consolation I hear McInally's been tracking four Nigerian defenders (they are all over 15 stone allegedly) If we sign them , the defence will be a fat black four formation.

Are they male?
mortonjag 2007-06-08 17:49:45
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 8 2007, 05:15 PM) [snapback]286315[/snapback]
Boy wonder will return, allegedly, till the end of the season.

Mathers had back trouble, allegedly, and was always looking doubtful for a full 1st Division campaign as an agile keeper,
so no loss there.

As other posters have said the folk other clubs are signing aren't exactly setting the heather on fire elsewhere.

I had thought we'd have heard of a signing by the end of today as we'd already identified our targets several weeks ago, buit sadly nothing yet.

Maybe two will be revealed at once early next week.

Scares the s*** out of me if it's as a 'striker' again-PLEASE no.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 17:53:52
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 8 2007, 04:51 PM) [snapback]286310[/snapback]
they preached love and respect for yourself and others. pretty admirable values.

they can not be responsible for the actions that others have carried out in their names. i am sure that if either of them could see what organised religion has become they would be utterly dismayed

Aye but Jesus was 'the Son of God', and Mahomet was 'the Prophet of Allah', so those guys didn't live in a time zone-past, present, and future knowledge was just 'knowledge'. That's why I asked the question in the first place.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 17:58:06
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 8 2007, 05:52 PM) [snapback]286325[/snapback]
I believe you are referring to "litotes", the opposite language technique to "hyperbole".

c'est vrai mon ami.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 18:02:12
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 8 2007, 05:55 PM) [snapback]286327[/snapback]
It wouldn't exactly be the end of the world huh.gif

It will for me if he yet again keeps genuine goal scorers out of the team. If he's coming back it should be to COMPETE for an attacking midfield role, and that ONLY if we've signed an experienced midfielder to hold things together.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 18:03:59
QUOTE(rafa the spic @ Jun 8 2007, 05:30 PM) [snapback]286317[/snapback]
No offence mate, but why would we want to share with you, when we have a new stadium, wouldnt make no sense to us

Why indeed would skunks wish to raise the tone of new Skunkery?
mortonjag 2007-06-08 20:04:54
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 8 2007, 07:32 PM) [snapback]286358[/snapback]
tontastic pays for it all and yes, I run it. as yet it hasn't cost me anything...(that may change, i dunno yet)

Yer sanity young man! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-08 20:16:53
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 8 2007, 07:45 PM) [snapback]286366[/snapback]
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 8 2007, 12:42 PM) [snapback]286168[/snapback]

Below is the transcript of the letter Salmond sent to Blair about the the transfer of prisoners between the UK and Libya.

Could you have imagined McConnell sending such a letter?

If he had it would have probably been along the lines of: -

Dear Prime Minister

Great idea.

Your lapdog,

Jack XXX
Dear Prime Minister
OOooooppppppsssssss.

McConnell already rejected the possibility of the Libyan leaving early.

Aye but everything rests on the SCCRC report-theoretically Megrahi could be pardoned and claim huge compensation.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 20:29:08
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 8 2007, 08:24 PM) [snapback]286385[/snapback]
Umm... not particularly, not for my needs, anyway. I understands others have more of an interest, or different interests from me. (I generally take care of my own transport to games, for example, and scan newspaper sites each morning for Morton related news so I don't need an RSS feed or anything like that.)

Since I let the front page die I was looking for Morton-related news and views, though, and JonaTon's blog is excellent in that regard. I'd like to see more stuff like that, but posts on message boards serve just as well, sometimes.

I guess all I thought was needed was a new admin, and now, there is one laugh.gif I was making mistakes.

You mean you were human Nach0-nobody can get anything 'right' all the time. We had our wee spats, but you did an excellent job IMO.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 20:31:42
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jun 8 2007, 08:26 PM) [snapback]286388[/snapback]
No doubt out of the Scottish coffers!!

That's an interesting one-I'm not sure of the answer.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 20:35:14
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 8 2007, 06:31 PM) [snapback]286340[/snapback]
Come on Rafa, be a sport! wink.gif

Rafa-are you oot the gemme AGAIN?
mortonjag 2007-06-08 20:42:09
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jun 8 2007, 07:32 PM) [snapback]286359[/snapback]
For a guy who holds such a high standing in the community, has qualifications coming out of his ears why oh why the minute people dont agree with you you seem to turn into a patronising f*d. I have heard you are a decent guy but lets be brutally honest, if anyone disagrees with your opinion you just seem to turn your posts into personal attacks, that really is fine and upstanding and a thing that the neds will really look up to.

I love Morton, I hate the thought of some tube coming in from outside taking over, we have had burnt fingers on that score and for once Kilmarnock managed to avoid the calamity of Scott. Say what you want but at present Dougie does his best for the club, he may not be a mr romanov but in my opinion you know what you are getting. He may micro manage but then thats up to others to sort out.

Ghost, as for Crawford it may well be time that Daddy lets him in but for people to slate the guy who saved the club along with others is deplorable. I am all for change but it has to be the right man or group who take over, I honestly believe that Dougie does not see Morton as a play thing but a football team he believes is a priviledge to own. Lets look at the facts if he didn't care he would have bailed out when we failed to win the 2nd div the first time. He has stuck with it and its about time people stuck with him rather than lambasting him.

like i said if mj or his muckers know of a better option than the rae clan who are prepared to take the club forward then get them on board, but if not just keep your patronising posts to yourself. I respect opinion but draw the line at personall attacks on posters, the chairman or anyone connected with morton without anything to back it up.
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It seems that you don't like me or my style-that's fine.

You are just as entitled to your opinion as I am to mine.

I don't give and complain about what I get, and I KNOW I'm not always right.

I've never said Dougie didn't have the interests of Morton at heart, nor have I ever said I'm ungrateful for the good he's undoubtedly done.

He is NOT, however, above criticism, and so long as you and your ilk continue to attempt censorship of such, I shall happily tear your pathetic sycophancy to shreds.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 20:46:36
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 8 2007, 07:48 PM) [snapback]286369[/snapback]
Do you think he isn't a striker either?

Bryan-the RIGHT BACK rolleyes.gif scored more!
mortonjag 2007-06-08 20:49:41
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 8 2007, 08:44 PM) [snapback]286400[/snapback]
There you go, WDE. You even admitted it yourself.
Like St Mirren fans do their club, I regard Morton as a club who SHOULD be aiming for the top 6 in this country as their ultimate goal.

I honestly think some of us have an inferiority complex on this issue.

It's quite clear some of us have different ambitions for the club than others.

Some are happy to continue to be the biggest underachievers in Scottish Football, content with punching well below our weight forever more so long as we can keep our nice wee ground and welcome local OF fans with open arms "as long as there's a chance we may convert them."

f*** that, if getting to the SPL, mixing it with the big boys and staying there requires moving with the times then as much as I love Cappielow, drastic changes will have to be made.

I'm 29 and have NEVER seen Morton play in the top league. Reading about some of the greats we've had over the decades it's pretty bloody tragic that a generation of fans (some older than me) appear to have lowered their expectations of the club.
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WELL SAID Roberto.

What's the average age on this forum?

They haven't a f*cking clue IMO.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 20:58:31
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 8 2007, 08:25 PM) [snapback]286387[/snapback]
Not anymore, back to Jail laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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Aye but with what concessions after the shrink's report?
mortonjag 2007-06-08 21:00:29
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 8 2007, 08:58 PM) [snapback]286410[/snapback]
except one biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Quoi-moi? unsure.gif

mortonjag 2007-06-08 21:09:28
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 8 2007, 08:57 PM) [snapback]286409[/snapback]
Yes I'm a tory.

Not too sure what abonded means though. laugh.gif
As to parties abandoning the working class. Labour traditionally represented the working class. Now it's filled wie teachers who don't want to teach, social workers who require some social work involvement in their own lives and nanny statist bawbags.

When the working class perceive that Labour don't represent them then the BNP will fill the vacuum. :blink:

The 'working class' no longer exists Mr. Bam- traditional politics has been turned on its head in the present meritocracy/ grabitolcracy.

I doubt if it will ever be so clear cut again. Never has there been a greater need for a new party which embraces traditional British values, irrespective of the background of its voters.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 21:15:13
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jun 8 2007, 09:02 PM) [snapback]286414[/snapback]
never at anytime said he was not beyond criticism, never said you were not entitled to you opinion,nor did i say i had any personal disliking towards you or anyone else for that matter. like i did say you are patronising, overbearing and appear to be full of your own self importance. your fancy words might impress your burd but ffs get a life. you appear to be the most pompous and arrogant individual on the board, i may be wrong........................but then again.

you are right!

and you're NOT full of your self importance! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-08 21:20:36
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 8 2007, 09:13 PM) [snapback]286425[/snapback]
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Away and raffle yerself ya old duffer. laugh.gif

traditional British values... what would that be then, exactly?

Colonising and expoiting other countries? Slavery? Do enlighten us, please.

Cheers for that MJ, that's a belter! laugh.gif

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Don't get me started you vertically challenged recessive-I'll be off the board faster than you can undo yer fly buttons at the sight of Ms Warp.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 21:30:51
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 8 2007, 09:27 PM) [snapback]286439[/snapback]
You don't happen to have Anne Widdecombe's number too by any chance, do you?

That's Tom's top two fantasy babes for a three-in-a-bed romp. I'm sure he'd pay you handsomely for both numbers.

AW's number is ex-directory

the secret code

48 FFF
mortonjag 2007-06-08 21:39:31
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jun 8 2007, 09:30 PM) [snapback]286443[/snapback]
susan does dougies cinnamon balls

miller on mcgregor cappielow cum sessions

mcinally makes them swally

mr raes old and greys, mature oldies in the cowshed

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hmm-and I'm not allowed to have a go at 'Auld Shoogly'.

I regard that as a reprehensible insult to our Chairman, and DEMAND that you are BANNED

Dougie pays millions to make a deposit in Susan's 300 share account.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 21:47:59
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jun 8 2007, 09:35 PM) [snapback]286448[/snapback]
catch ye versace, same sh1te different day, held no opinion on you but you really do seem like a completely arrogant tool,say no more. mad.gif

My arrogance knows no bounds AJC. When I was younger I did make the occasional mistake, but that's all sorted!

Talking of tools-for a man in his 60's my tool is probably twice as active and effective as most of those belonging to you and your fellow posters-and I DON'T have to take myself in hand every time I feel that wee urge-women are falling over each other just to glimpse my magnificent 3cm specimen extend to 1/2 metre before transforming into a life size effigy of Cassanova.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 21:50:56
QUOTE(asdfhjkla @ Jun 8 2007, 09:34 PM) [snapback]286447[/snapback]

You are a shower of 'lynch mob' vicious b's.

The poor wee soul. God bless her.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 21:54:16
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 8 2007, 09:30 PM) [snapback]286444[/snapback]
Commercial Manager (Competent)
Goalkeeper
Full backs
Centre back
Central midfielder
Right midfielder
Striker

Change of heart by MILESON.
mortonjag 2007-06-08 21:57:37
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 8 2007, 09:52 PM) [snapback]286464[/snapback]
"hey what you looking at? the morton website? is that still going even with the season finished?"

f*** it, let's shut the whole internet down until august. there's nothing to see here, people

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Comes through during a commercial break in Corry--

'Are you still on that bloody Morton web site'? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-08 22:38:32
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 8 2007, 10:04 PM) [snapback]286474[/snapback]
ditto

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So this is what it's come to is it?

An innocent old man, perusing his beloved Morton web site is subjected to vicious innuendo by a shower of internet vultures.

hey guys-do youse want a link? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-08 22:45:55 Many a true word spoken in jest guys-truth is SW has eloped with her dream tooth mechanic.
mortonjag 2007-06-09 06:07:19
QUOTE(GMC @ Jun 8 2007, 11:04 PM) [snapback]286486[/snapback]
The right back scored what? 15 league goals? 4 of them came from a central midfield position against the dross that was Forfar.

Templeman got 12, McGowan got 11. Why don't we get rid of both of them? I take it 12 goals is the pass mark in your opinion since you ain't bothered about a 2-game hero Chris Templeman or questioning why he is playing as a striker (target man or not - he is ultimately a striker), but won't stop criticising McInally for playing McGowan in his correct position. huh.gif

The loan from cellic suited Rae's pocket-JM had little choice IMO.

Gowser will never be a striker-simple.
mortonjag 2007-06-09 06:12:57
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 8 2007, 11:28 PM) [snapback]286492[/snapback]
That means absolutely nothing. The 'right-back' scored more than Chris Templeman does that mean he isn't a striker either. McGowan scored more than Templman etc.

Paul McGowan is a striker no doubts about it. Gordon Strachan has him as a striker, Jim McInally has him as a stiker, McGowan has himself as a striker, most Morton fans have him as a striker.He scored 16 goals and was nominated for a player of the year award after playing the whole season as a striker.

Why is it that you are some sort of football visionary who knows better than everyone else where a player is most suited to play.

Seems obvious-definition of striker-we've had this debate before. Gowser's a goalscorer, just like Templeman.
The only natural predator in the squad's been playing at No 2 all bloody season.

Striker-Harper, McGraw, McCoist, Larsson-think of THEIR styles-Gowser's a good wee playmaker and goalscorer.

BTW what makes you think that the vertically challenged gnome of Paradise knows more than me. HOW often has he actually watched Gowser, IF EVER?
mortonjag 2007-06-09 06:15:40
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 8 2007, 11:40 PM) [snapback]286496[/snapback]
He's also more of a natural goalscorer than Bobby Linn, the man Mr Jag wishes to replace him. rolleyes.gif

Time will tell-the jury's out!
mortonjag 2007-06-09 06:17:11
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 9 2007, 12:00 AM) [snapback]286506[/snapback]
Football agents speak with forked tongue !! After McInally stated that in the Telegraph I've no doubt there will be a few agents trying to flog "a wee gem " to him . His phone will be red hot .
Will McInally be able to tell a diamond from the zircon .

...or a striker from a full back, or an attacking right mid from a left winger etc., etc., etc., rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-09 06:20:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 9 2007, 05:29 AM) [snapback]286539[/snapback]
It has been reported that JM had identified 4 or 5 players that he wanted.

He has missed out on AT LEAST Hinchcliffe and Twigg.

So, his plans are going sadly awry.

Does he have a Plan B, or is time against him ?

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Apparently everything's on hold 'til Shoogly returns from his talent spotting trip down South, where he's persuaded another four outlets to sell Millions.
mortonjag 2007-06-09 06:22:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 9 2007, 06:20 AM) [snapback]286545[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

But he was good enough to score against Man Ure.

A precotious chip from Paul McGowan from forty yards out, helped by an unfortunate slip from united goalkeeper Tom Heaton, sealed the match for the Bhoys.

Perhaps the EBC meant precocious.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/jersey/content/articl...ic_result.shtml

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If only!
mortonjag 2007-06-09 06:28:14
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 9 2007, 05:05 AM) [snapback]286538[/snapback]
http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/article...ort&id=8760
McInally said: “I met with Gary last week and we got on well. To be fair, I think he has other options and I don’t want to have to force people to play for Morton. We offered him something and he said he’d get back to us, but he hasn’t.

“He told us at the time any move he made wouldn’t be down to money.

“I’ll now be pursuing my other options.

“I’ve had a few calls from SPL agents offering players.

“This happens about now because those waiting for better things don’t always get the move they want. It could be we end up with a real gem.

“I’m actively pursuing an experienced keeper too.â€
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He told us at the time any move he made wouldn’t be down to money.
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What a revelation.

Is that not the case with most job changes ?

The lad is only 23.

Surely McInally and DDFR can present the Ton as an excellent opportunity ?

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I've just had a recurrence of this scary thought. Every new player who HAS taken the poisoned chalice-Finlayson, Templeman, Stevenson, Mathers, and Linn, ended up playing like shadows of their former selves.

Experienced players don't stay-McLaren, Lilley, and Mathers.

There's an active grapevine among professional footballers. Why is it that so few seem to want to play for Sugar Daddy and his puppet?
mortonjag 2007-06-09 06:30:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 9 2007, 06:24 AM) [snapback]286548[/snapback]
his talent spotting trip down South.

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I heard the most recent talent spotting he did was the future Mrs Rae some 50 years ago.
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and that perpetual smile on the coupon's masking 49 years of 'sore heads'?
mortonjag 2007-06-09 06:44:32 Also to Johnny Depp, Michael J Fox, and M4RKO.
mortonjag 2007-06-09 06:45:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 9 2007, 06:36 AM) [snapback]286551[/snapback]
you calling the EBC liars ?

Wood eye.
mortonjag 2007-06-09 06:50:55
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 9 2007, 06:43 AM) [snapback]286552[/snapback]
Why is it that so few seem to want to play for Sugar Daddy and his puppet?
McCall made a triple signing only days after taking over as manager of Partick Thistle.

Perhaps Thistle are being seen as a new start.

And the Ton only plugging a few gaps ??

It is a concern that Craig Hinchcliffe has been reported as seeing the choice between the Thistle and the Ton as "a no brainer."
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The attitude up 'til now's been 'If they don't want us-f*ck them' but serious questions may have to be answered.

The truth is that the only players ever recruited by the present regime have been relative boys, or tired old men. Seems that anybody with an ounce of drive avoids the squad which most needs it.
mortonjag 2007-06-09 07:20:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 9 2007, 07:05 AM) [snapback]286557[/snapback]
serious questions may have to be answered.

Gidday mortonjag,

I have a serious question for you.

What worthwhile player is going to sign for the Ton, without first asking Gary Twigg and Craig Hinchcliffe and/or their agents why they chose to sign elsewhere ?

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Good question-ain't got an answer, but the grapevine's always kept in good order.
I've just got a wee sneaky suspicion that perceptive players prefer a manager to a director when choosing their boss.
mortonjag 2007-06-09 07:33:10
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 9 2007, 06:56 AM) [snapback]286556[/snapback]
England's players have agreed to donate their international wages to charity, according to a report in Saturday's Daily Mail.

A new Team England Footballers' Charity has pledged a minimum of one million pounds over the next four years to good causes, the newspaper said.

"I am not going to say we are saving the world or that we should have haloes fitted but as a group the England players wanted to make a difference," David Beckham's manager Terry Byrne told the Mail.

"Some people will look at this and say, 'what's 50,000 pounds to someone who can earn that in a week?'.

But the players didn't have to do this, they chose to. They wanted to do some good."
http://www.smh.com.au/news/Sport/England-s...1089370967.html
What's 50,000 pounds to someone who can earn that in a week?

£240.38 a week over four years, or less than 1/200th of his weekly wage (less than £1.50 an hour)!

Such generosity to one of those of those ubiquitous 'good causes'.
mortonjag 2007-06-09 07:47:42
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jun 8 2007, 09:35 PM) [snapback]286448[/snapback]
catch ye versace, same sh1te different day, held no opinion on you but you really do seem like a completely arrogant tool,say no more. mad.gif

Just had a thought AJC!

If I had presented my case less arrogantly and controversially would the vote in favour of my opinion be larger than the current 30%?

I'm sure that even red tonsils would agree that that's statistically significant-70% in any poll is a strong majority, but what's that old saying about 25% of the population being right 75% of the time and vice versa? blink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-09 07:57:28 Looks like they're about to swallow up Dobbie's for £155 million.

What next-the smaller bookmaking chains perhaps- then you could buy your scratch card AND have a punt while the missus is chucking the frozen pizzas in the trolley.
mortonjag 2007-06-09 08:06:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 9 2007, 07:56 AM) [snapback]286564[/snapback]
This tread has been viewed 2,352 times.

But there been only 63 votes ?

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Have some votes been tampered with ?

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'Cos 63 have voted (I've only cast 7-----I and my aliases)-those polls are extremely scientific as Mr Tontastic will confirm.

SERIOUSLY-It does give a rough guide to general opinion, but that of course is extremely fickle.
There was a huge knee jerk reversal on the 'Taxi for McInally thread' after the farce at Stirling for example.

So far as I can see most punters are happy enough with Shoogly for the simple reason that we're currently division 2 champions, and in the closed season.

That's fair enough, but I, for one, don't expect to see us setting the heather on fire next time around unless we get the right players.

It's really out of the hands of every Ton fan except one.
mortonjag 2007-06-09 08:09:57
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 9 2007, 08:04 AM) [snapback]286566[/snapback]
For Shopping Read Tescoing
and in 20 years ... "for Football read SPL and the English Premiership."
and in 30 years ... there will be NO international football matches.

It will be the English Premiership versus Serie A versus La Liga etc.

I don't expect you to believe me.

But, remember where you read it first.

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Doubt if I'll be able to remember much in 20 years-might even be bones in a box.
mortonjag 2007-06-09 08:12:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 9 2007, 04:30 AM) [snapback]286537[/snapback]
Life's short.

Get a divorce.

America the Beautiful ??

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LIFE'S SHORT

DON'T GET MARRIED
mortonjag 2007-06-09 08:16:36 24 hours on and no sighting-can we safely say-'lost at sea'?

SICK MICK R.I.P.

Our thoughts are with the family at this time.
mortonjag 2007-06-09 08:25:35 8.20 in Glasgow and the sun's splitting the pavements-oh what a perfect day

Back soon-I'm off to the loo


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oh what a perfect day
but they keep us hanging on
Shoogly keeps us hanging on.........................
mortonjag 2007-06-09 09:07:09
QUOTE(shedhead @ Jun 9 2007, 09:05 AM) [snapback]286575[/snapback]
Ach I'm sick o' sunshine . I'm busting for a bit of rain. Ye get a bit sick of weather up in the 90's cool.gif

They say you can't get too much of a good thing Shedhead.

Mind you they say lots of things!
mortonjag 2007-06-09 09:17:28
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 9 2007, 09:10 AM) [snapback]286577[/snapback]
Tis a lovely day indeed. And I have zero plans until this evening! Typical.

Nothing wrong with zero plans puggs-jist DAE sumfing-ennyfing-get outside in yer shorts and have a quiet chat with yer chanter in this lovely sun.

The Monkey and I are just about to pop out for a wee run with the hood down-can't beat it!
mortonjag 2007-06-09 09:46:18
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 9 2007, 09:34 AM) [snapback]286583[/snapback]
My plan originally was some well needed maintenance on my pipes actually. Doesn't involve outdoor much.

No fret...BBQ tonight! biggrin.gif

I can refer you to a good gastroenterologist if you like!

How many notes can you play on a set of pipes-I've never quite understood, and why do all pipe tunes seem to have three chords maximum?
mortonjag 2007-06-09 10:51:13
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 9 2007, 10:46 AM) [snapback]286604[/snapback]
Aye, they Dobbies along with the fact that someone was bumped off in there last week wink.gif

somebody bombed a plant? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-09 10:54:07
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 9 2007, 10:07 AM) [snapback]286590[/snapback]
9 normal notes, can sneak in some flats etc when playing solo. I'm guessing only 3 chords because it only covers 1 octave.

Ta for that-flats by half covering one of the wee holes I guess?
mortonjag 2007-06-09 10:57:31
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 9 2007, 10:48 AM) [snapback]286607[/snapback]
OR ...... 50,000 he didn't have to donate at all going to a very good cause.

I don't get the whole Beckham bashing thing.

Sad inditement of our world when one of the most vilified and castigated characters is a loving husband and father, who is clearly talented and devoted to his sport/talent.

If someone chooses to pay him an outrageous amount of money for his talents then who is he to complain. Aim the criticism where it's most deserving.

When he contributes nothing he's a wanker, when he contributes what is indeed a sizeable amount he's a wanker. If he donated it all he'd be a "big time charlie".

Nope, I don't get it at all.

More power to him, he clearly loves the game, clearly loves his family, isn't one for getting pished, making a tit of himself or bringing shame on his family or friends. And he clearly has a moral compass as well - this 50k is only a small percentage of his charitable contributions in a year.

Would that there were a few more like him.

TonInDublin

Wasn't knocking Becks specifically-only answering NewTon's question- what does anybody know anyway-it's all media glitz.

One thing's for sure, he's got nae taste in 'wimmen'.
mortonjag 2007-06-09 11:07:44
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 9 2007, 09:20 AM) [snapback]286580[/snapback]
Hallelujah!

Mortonjag has an epiphany biggrin.gif

Eppyfanny-no way.

If I'd said exactly the same in milder terms as, for example, the princess, it wouldn't have generated a response!
mortonjag 2007-06-09 11:14:20
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 9 2007, 11:00 AM) [snapback]286621[/snapback]
You mean he widnae shag Kirsty Wark either? ohmy.gif

The world's gone mad I tell you.

Oh who knows what he'd do if plastic tits let him out of her sight for two minutes. As TiD suggests he's a loving husband and father-he's got nae effin choice IMO.

Warp's a minger.
mortonjag 2007-06-09 11:16:54
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 9 2007, 11:14 AM) [snapback]286626[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Jun 9 2007, 10:57 AM) [snapback]286616[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You say if McInally does not show ambition he should go but you can only offer what our good saviour gives you to play with i.e. a budget.
I would have thought there'd be quite a large budget available for this season as JM keeps knockong Dougie's offer of cash back to buy players as JM has PUBLICLY stated in The Town Hall and in the press.

Because Shoogly writes the scripts perhaps?
mortonjag 2007-06-09 11:30:00
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 9 2007, 11:15 AM) [snapback]286627[/snapback]
Looking at the Trocaire web site reveals the following .......

£5 can save a child's sight.

So £50,0000/£5 - I make that about 10,000 eyesights saved.

£70 can feed a child from infancy to adolescence.

so £50,0000/£70 - I make that ~714 lives saved.

£150 pays for a simple family home in the developing nations

So £50,000/£150 - I make that ~333 family units kept safely together.

I've heard of worse legacies .........

TonInDublin

I don't think the question was about the value of the charity so much as the donation relative to disposable income, but every little still helps.
mortonjag 2007-06-09 13:39:06
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 9 2007, 12:52 PM) [snapback]286647[/snapback]
No actually. For example a C has 2 holes uncovered. To get a C flat you cover the lower hole of the 2 not covered.

Stuff like that. Can't really cover half a hole.

Spent a good hour playing my pipes. Sweat dripping. Treated myself to a wee cone afterwards, made it all better biggrin.gif

Just one cornetto!
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mortonjag 2007-06-09 13:43:53 Just for the record, the monkey donates money to the World Wildlife Fund. He says charity begins at home.
mortonjag 2007-06-09 13:49:00
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jun 9 2007, 12:17 PM) [snapback]286641[/snapback]
Another non topic. Killing myself for taking the bate but so far not one player bought by a 1st division side that I am thinking "we should have signed him". When deals are done all the Dougie and JM bashers will no doubt have their say.

...and the rest will keep their mouths shut in case Shoogly finds out and they are banned for life from HIS stadium! rolleyes.gif

Let's hope the Dougie and JM bashers will have good reason to do less bashing.
mortonjag 2007-06-09 13:53:26
QUOTE(cmdc @ Jun 9 2007, 12:18 PM) [snapback]286642[/snapback]
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Why would that attitude peeve you off? Because I'm not flapping in early June about players who may or may not be coming when I can do absolutely nothing about it anyway?

He didn't say he's waiting for the phone to ring INSTEAD of targeting players. He simply said the phone is ringing, as it will be to every manager up and down the country with a bit of money to spend; and every manager will take some of those calls and weigh up whther or not an unexpected gem has become available. That is perfectly sensible.

Correct-time will tell.

The fans would be much less anxious, mind you, if we had wee sinppets on GMFC-EVEN if it was only to make the odd comment about commercial affairs, season tickets, strips, Mark Farrell's progress with the pitch, or the date of Cappie's last menstrual period.
mortonjag 2007-06-09 14:00:20
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 9 2007, 12:10 PM) [snapback]286640[/snapback]
If she was black and poor?

Mentaljag yer

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDSins of the parents an a' that.
mortonjag 2007-06-09 14:06:49
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 9 2007, 10:37 AM) [snapback]286598[/snapback]
In the way of medical matters

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mortonjag 2007-06-09 14:10:13
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jun 9 2007, 11:54 AM) [snapback]286633[/snapback]
I noticed that as well, it really is a disgrace that a guy from Kilmacolm has ended up at Partick and St. Mirren without Morton even taking a look. We need to get this sorted now.

Disagree-wee don't need snobs.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 06:59:37
QUOTE(blueandwhitehoops @ Jun 9 2007, 09:44 PM) [snapback]286707[/snapback]
What a ridiculous statement to make!

Not a bad effort for your second post, but somewhat rich-aimed as it is, at the biggest and most arrogant snob on the board.

What you should have said was something like,
'Mortonjag, you're a f*d.'.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 07:02:39
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 9 2007, 03:33 PM) [snapback]286668[/snapback]
Did you notice what he said about a Saturday . He gets invited into the managers team talk . Mirror that with the aimless kickabout our young lads do at reserve matches .
What would be more beneficial to young players listening to a managers team talk , which he could explain to them in a game situation while they watched so they could understand what he had said be put into practice .
I find it strange that a guy who was brought here with DDFR praising his work at Celtic . Why is he not more proactive in bringing these elements to our younger players .

There's something in that-but at Scapa there appears to be a well defined 'pecking order', and those at the back of the queue have little chance of any food.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 07:09:38
QUOTE(shagster @ Jun 10 2007, 02:21 AM) [snapback]286777[/snapback]
"never seen a professional footballer with worse control than ro. his first touch was truley hideous"

Have you never watched Michael Owen or Wayne Rooney's first touch?.Truly woeful,especially for FULL TIME professionals from about 10 years old who have never had to subsidise there grossly inflated wages by working elsewhere whilst learning their profession.Considering that these two are "world class"(my arse) and learned their trade on Merseyside and still couldn't trap a bag of cement,I believe that it's unfair to condemn a PART TIME player/butcher for his ball control.I am no fan of RA for his comments against Morton in the past but still hope that he is able to conquer his alleged demons,and returns in some form of coaching capacity in the future.(I do not believe he is cut out for a management position).

P.S. Read through the thread first but was annoyed by the above statement.

Aye but they don't understand shagster, Alexander was a 'striker'-a real one-one of those natural predators who's got superb timing, reactions, and the ability to be in the right place at the right time. Ultimately if he traps the ball with his dick, flicks it over the oncoming goalie while blasting out an earth shattering fart to distract and anaesthetise him in the process, and walks slowly round him before blowing the ball over the line with another-it doesn't matter a f***.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 07:17:43
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jun 9 2007, 05:23 PM) [snapback]286679[/snapback]
You're right, I think McAllister was signed from Linwood Rangers, but I think for the time being we should be doing more of that. At the moment I think that first team matters are more important overall. Once we are established at whatever level the board and manager have envisaged, then I think we can start to form a fully functional youth setup, which it appears we are lacking at the moment. Despite some fan's delusions of grandeur, we are only 6 years on from when we were bust and have made good progress overall, even if it took a little longer than we had hoped. I think if a poll was taken (cue poll!) people would rather be sitting in the 1st division with players like Peter Weatherson, Jamie Stevenson, Chris Templeman etc than still stuck in the 3rd division with a cracking youth setup just about to produce players that will get picked up by good first division sides. People have talked about Stenny's good youth set-up, but where are they?!

Also, creating a great youth set-up will not bear fruit immediately; it will take several years. Look at Murray Park: multi-million pound facilities associated with one of the biggest teams in Britain has only just started to produce decent talent in the last season or so. That is why when we get our act together regarding youth teams, etc we do it to the best of our capabilities which will not be possible until the other aspects of the club (first team, management, finances etc) are fully established in the first division.

Until then I think that we should be doing more in terms of affiliating with local boys' clubs and strengthening our scouting network, recommending players etc.

A certain village team is now playing in the SPL.

Three seasons ago we were a division above them.

I put it down mainly to money, but others have criticised that and accused me of inappropriate jealousy and anger.

Either way it's a fact.

If DDFR hasn't got enough, why is he resisting all attempts by others to invest.

If he has got enough, something's far wrong.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 07:21:15
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 9 2007, 07:58 PM) [snapback]286694[/snapback]
I also think it is worthwhile scouting round the best youth teams in the whole of the West of Scotland, not just the Inverclyde area, to get the best young lads available, and develop relationships with both Celtic and Rangers who have already spent millions on academies to get some decent youngsters who may not make the grade for them, but are well worth a trial with us.

If it isn't feasible for us to have a youth team set-up of our own, then to create a network of feeder youth clubs via sponsorship, mutual coaching arrangements etc. may be the way ahead.

CORRECT

Gone are the days when the journey from Glasgow to Greenock took two or three hours on a decent horse! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-10 07:22:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 10 2007, 02:23 AM) [snapback]286778[/snapback]
Gidday Trumping,

No crap, Sherlock.

There are around 3,000 registered members but only 68 votes.

More suppporter apathy ?

Or do some members think they are too young to vote ?

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On the contrary most voting members seem too young to think.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 07:25:23
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 10 2007, 02:40 AM) [snapback]286782[/snapback]
Gidday ThornTON,

OK, I will take it slowly, just for you.
1. JM identifies 4 or 5 players, who he wants.

2. He makes offers to AT LEAST 2 of them.

3. They decide to go elsewhere.

4. Seems like a FAILURE RATE of at least 40% to me.

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And a HIT RATE of ZERO.

60%'s still a pass.

Just to save ThornTon's wee pudgy fingers!
mortonjag 2007-06-10 07:28:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 10 2007, 03:45 AM) [snapback]286789[/snapback]
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/displa...d_jags_plan.php

CRAIG HINCHCLIFFE today revealed he knocked back an offer from Morton to sign for Partick Thistle.

As revealed in Friday's SportTimes, the 35-year-old penned a two-year deal at Firhill when, along with Falkirk duo Ryan McStay and Mark Twaddle, he became one of the first signings of the Ian McCall era at Firhill.

Yet, despite the offer of a contract at Cappielow and strong interest from Queen of the South, Hinchy says the decision to join Partick was an easy one.

The former St Mirren No.1 said: "I've known Jim McInally at Morton and Ian McCall for a while now and I was flattered they were both interested.

But when I came to Firhill and saw the ground and what the gaffer has planned for Thistle, it was an easy decision.
Hopefully Hinchcliffe's comments are still ringing inside DDFR's head.

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Can't believe he signed just because of 'the ground', and he obviously respects JM as a fellow footballer. Clearly Corky has something 'up there' which is singularly lacking at Scapa.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 07:30:51
QUOTE(cmdc @ Jun 10 2007, 04:47 AM) [snapback]286790[/snapback]
Club in crisis tongue.gif

As GOOD as that? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-10 07:36:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 10 2007, 07:26 AM) [snapback]286802[/snapback]
Did it take that long when you were a lad, mortonjag ?

I suppose not everyone could afford 3/9 for the ticket from Princes Pier to Glasgow Central.

http://www.greenock-town.co.uk/princes_pier_station.html

The ticket on the above link was a right rip off by the Canadian Pacific Steamship Company.

A child return to Glasgow in the 1960s was NEVER 7/6 !!!!

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The cheapest bus fare I actually remember paying was a 'half single' from Kilmacolm to Auchenbothie (where my pal lived) and it cost 1 and a 1/2d-a penny- halfpenny fare. You could have made 80 of those trips for ten bob, which is now 50p and hardly gets you a pint of milk.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 07:39:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 10 2007, 07:14 AM) [snapback]286797[/snapback]
What a turn of phrase for the Sabbath.

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I was at Sinny Gog yesterday-hope that doesn't offend any of the board's 763.44 hegemonies.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 07:40:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 10 2007, 07:32 AM) [snapback]286805[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

and he's going to get 60% ???

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Fact 1. He was after 4 or 5 players.

Fact 2. He made at least 2 offers.

Fact 3. BOTH offers failed.
Theory 1. He made have made all 5 offers.

Theory 2. More than 2 offers may have been rejected.

IMHO, it is NOT looking good.
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Wasn't disagreeing-but ThornTon will!!!
mortonjag 2007-06-10 07:43:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 10 2007, 07:37 AM) [snapback]286807[/snapback]
So my view is 100% incorrect ?

Your view is-shall we say diametrically opposed to that of the rose tinted non antipodean shooglyphile brigade.

You may be correct.

The truth is probably axial.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 07:49:51
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 9 2007, 04:50 PM) [snapback]286677[/snapback]
whaaaat? blink.gif

sorry i have no idea what you are talking about. was that a real sentence?

are you refering to them being omnipotent? if so, then surely by default, you are wrong and they are right cool.gif

I think YOU are being devil's advocate!

Jesus was part of the 'holy trinity' three in one-oily relationship wi' his da' an that.

Allah had one prophet-Mahomet had the ear of the boss.

Now, either those guys were just shizo nutter freaks who talked a good game, or they were 'in the know'.

If they were 'in the know', I say they should have seen it all coming, and kept their big mouths shut in the first place.

I go with the original concept, mind you. wub.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-10 08:01:19
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 9 2007, 11:57 PM) [snapback]286751[/snapback]
Being a teacher shouldn't you see every spelling mistake on here as a sign that your profession is moribund?

Nothing wrong with the profession IMHO DM-I'd say it's hale and hearty, albeit effectively incarcerated for most of the time in a claustrophobic cocoon of cooncil controlled RED tape.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 08:12:27
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 9 2007, 11:20 PM) [snapback]286724[/snapback]
Vrey well, name the disorder.
I diagnose it as Spoiled Brat Syndrome.
Treatment: Send her to work in a shanty town.

But will her PR machine get her to do that anyway? huh.gif

You're not old enough to know what you're talking about.

'Spoiled brats' is an anachronism.

A very experienced Social Worker once told me that, and who am I to disagree.

Anyhow Paris is just a poor misunderstood little rich girl. She may possibly now mend her ways, and since Sick Mick is 'lost at sea', (and with apologies to Willie Shooglesword), I'll suggest, join a nunnery.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 08:19:13
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jun 10 2007, 03:12 AM) [snapback]286787[/snapback]
not bad for a rentboy

FFS wake up-mine charges £50 a bloody go.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 08:21:03
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 10 2007, 08:17 AM) [snapback]286816[/snapback]
poor little rich girl ???

She is 26 years old !!!

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However, Paris has said that she believed in Father Christmas until she was 17.

She only discovered the truth when a pal revealed there was no such person.

She said: "I believed in Santa Claus until I was 17 when some mean person told me it wasn't true.

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...and whisper it-she still calls that little furry thing her 'flower' and wonders why it waters itself.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 08:25:40 unsure.gif
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 10 2007, 07:45 AM) [snapback]286811[/snapback]
I well remember penny ha'penny bus fares within Greenock on the red double decker buses.

and it was only sixpence to Largs.

and 1/6 into Cappielow grandstand.

And a BIG bar of Galaxy chocolate was sixpence.

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...as was an eight square bar of Dairy Milk, when a decent sized 'Mars' was 4d, crisps were 3d (Smith's wi' a wee blue packet of salt 4d), and you gave your seat on the bus to old folk or women with weans, and saluted your schoolteacher in the street, in a manner similar to the reportedly regular saluting of Auld Shoogly at Fort Matilda. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-10 08:30:24
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 10 2007, 07:49 AM) [snapback]286812[/snapback]
No, he won't, mortonjag.

ThornTON has me on ignore.

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He's a wee power freak-puts me on 'ignore' regularly but usually keeks round the corner every now and again.

BTW will you be going to Sick Mick's funeral if they recover the body?
mortonjag 2007-06-10 08:35:38
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 10 2007, 08:22 AM) [snapback]286819[/snapback]
Does he collect your rents weekly or fortnightly ?

Is it true that you are one of the largest landlords in Knightswood ?

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The only property I've ever made money from NewTon was first erected when I was about 14 years of age, and still can be enjoyed by any who wish to pay the appropriate fee.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 08:47:43 Happy birthday to the Dong

Liz Hurley's 42 today BTW, and 24 years ago another 'lovely' Margaret Thatcher, won her second consecutive General Election.

Seems like yesterday!
mortonjag 2007-06-10 08:51:56
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 10 2007, 08:48 AM) [snapback]286824[/snapback]
can be enjoyed by any who wish to pay the appropriate fee.

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mortonjag, I always thought you had quite a bit of class about you.

I would have expected you to be a wee bit more selective, mate.

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Misunderstood as always NewTon- I've priced it at 25 million quid with Mairi's explicit consent!

Been on the market for ages-those f*cking estate agents!
mortonjag 2007-06-10 09:01:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 10 2007, 08:57 AM) [snapback]286828[/snapback]
Smith's wi' a wee blue packet of salt 4d

Aye, mortonjag, why was that ?

Would it not be easier to pre-salt the crisps ?

Does anyone remember the crisps factory near the corner of Roxburgh Street and Mearns Street, on the east side of Mearns Street ???
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Smith's were years ahead of their time on 'healthy eating' and just as is the case now, you had to pay the price!
mortonjag 2007-06-10 09:03:36
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jun 10 2007, 09:00 AM) [snapback]286829[/snapback]
Maybe his chest hair is 31? unsure.gif

Happy birthday Greg. smile.gif

Jealousy masked as a compliment.

Typical of the lad who's been shaving for three years, and cut himself both times.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 09:09:55
QUOTE(briggsTON @ Jun 10 2007, 09:04 AM) [snapback]286834[/snapback]
The boys gate at Cappielow 7d

What year was that Briggs-I started going when Hal had just taken over-I'm sure it was more like 'one and six' by then, but the memory's poor.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 09:13:57
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 10 2007, 09:10 AM) [snapback]286841[/snapback]
mortonjag 2007-06-10 09:20:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 10 2007, 09:06 AM) [snapback]286836[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

Sadly, I don't think they would let me in.

With my Australian lady being born in Italy, I have been to quite a few Roman Catholic weddings and funerals here in Oz.

I stick out a mile.

I am too tall and I don't kneel.

However, I always sit as close to the front as possible and as the paperwork is ALWAYS in Italian, I turn the pages with a flourish, and I am always complimented on my reading of the Tally language.

My pronunciation of it is an entirely different matter.

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mortonjag, do you think that we could we arrange an ecumenical event for Sick ?

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I'd be more than happy with a humanist burial, though they'll have to dry him out well or the cardboard coffin will get soggy-and that WOULD be very undignified.

I really hope they find him safe and well-perhaps we should start a world wide 'Find Micky' campaign, and ask for a Papal audience, and things, and release lots of yellow balloons.

There again, I do believe in the power of simple prayer.

mortonjag 2007-06-10 09:22:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 10 2007, 09:15 AM) [snapback]286849[/snapback]
and who pinched Charles Street ?

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That El Fayed bloke.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 15:17:06 Just read this thread-UTTERLY LUDICROUS

Anybody in this country who can read only Gaelic has probably never heard of Black and Decker, let alone a laser spirit level.

Add to that the fact that at any given time, some 30% of the shoppers in my local store are of Asian or mid European descent. There I've heard an unbelievable variety of 'yabberings' and not once anything that sounded remotely Gaelic.

Anyway good luck to good old Homebase-it's never been a proper DIY store anyway-more for the likes of folk who spend Sunday afternoons choosing a new lavvy roll holder which they proudly assemble and mount on the wall in a mere three hours, having covered several 'mistakes' with Polyfilla.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 15:27:48
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 10 2007, 01:07 PM) [snapback]286937[/snapback]
I completely agree with Mr. Edwards re: hand-outs. The culture in the UK as it stands does nothing to promote work or education but perpetuates poverty. This has been the policy of governments from the 1979 election onwards and isn't party political.
I believe we need to think really radical thoughts about the culture of welfare (terrible phrase but it's what people call it these days) and social responsibility. What we have at present simply doesn't work.
I believe completely in helping those in need however those people unfortunate enough to be in receipt of benefits have a responsibility to their fellow citizens.
I would like to see benefits paid only to those who show a willingness to work or learn (obviously there would be a need for a form of incapity benefit but chucking people onto those lists to massage the employment figures ain't helping anyone). I see no reason why I should walk down a street in any town and see loads of boys and men aged between 16-25 hanging around with nothing to do. The soft right and soft left in the Uk have enabled this to happen over the last 25-30 years. We are now seeing the result of mass unemployment from the 80s with children of unemployed parents now producing children with unemployed parents.
Another aspect of this shake up could and should involve drug treatment. As soon as someone presents to their GP with evident drug problems they should be taken out of society. I don't care about the cost nor implications for "human rights" (despite Thatcher attempting to destroy 'society' she ultimately failed. New Labour and the EU Human Rights legislation will however) and cleaned up, however long it takes.
Finally (for now, this could go on for days) the reinstatement of compulsory national service. Now this doesn't have to be a crude version of 'Bad Lads Army' but a way of showing youngsters that the world doesn't revolve around them. Two years compulsory service at home or abroad doing positive things for their fellow man, now what's wrong with that?

With alcohol still far and away the most popular and socially 'acceptable' drug in this country, and one which makes the effects of 'illegal' substances pale into insignificance Mr McArthur, the decimation of the workforce consequent on the implementation of your policy would solve the unemployment issue overnight.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 15:33:57
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 10 2007, 03:20 PM) [snapback]286990[/snapback]
Totally agree.

Like I said, some people are just never happy unless they're moaning about something. And the more stupid and trivial it is, they more angry they seem to get. rolleyes.gif

Any chance you could write that in Gaelic lest we have some posters who are confused?
mortonjag 2007-06-10 15:40:42
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 10 2007, 03:32 PM) [snapback]286999[/snapback]
When an indigenous group of people at the lowest end of the socio-economic scale get the problems of Eastern Europe, Africa and Aisa dumped on their doorstep in the same way that many Glasgow schemes have, coupled with the influx of cheap itinerant labour pricing the indigenous population out the workforce, there is political capital to be made.

The people of this country weren't asked if they wanted a multicultural society, it was forced upon them. There isn't much solidarity amongst equals at the bottom end of the socio-economic scale, and when a family from Ghana, Sierra Leone, Romania, Middle East etc. turn up in the neighbourhood and seem to be gaining an advantage at the expense of others, the indigenous people would naturally feel resentful. If they speak their minds, they are automatically sneered upon and branded 'racists' mostly by those who wouldnt let a bunch of Roma Gypsies even pass down their tree-lined avenues, let alone live there.

Like it or loathe it, the BNP are the only party who speak up for a maligned section of UK society. All these Lefty-type parties are keen to embrace all of the worlds ills that have washed upon these shores, as they cant get enough indigenous voters to vote for them, but the reality is that if these immigrants ever naturalise they will vote for the Tony Blair party, because it was him who turned the country into a free-for-all for them.

I've no doubt you'll get slated for that statement Narky, and find it irksome that I have to carefully word my next comment.

Let's just say that when I was a youngster, there was a railway station in Glasgow, and a Westminster politician who shared a name. The latter has been as much vilified as the former is sanctified.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 15:43:45
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 10 2007, 03:40 PM) [snapback]287005[/snapback]
I'd love to MJ, but to my shame I can't speak Gaelic.

I can do it in Dutch and French though, if that's any good. unsure.gif

FFS you and I must really be the odd men out! rolleyes.gif
With a wee bit of help from the guy in the next close I could bash it out in Urdu, and if I spread the net a little wider, probably about twenty differeny languages-but nae Gaelic.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 15:46:59
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 10 2007, 03:45 PM) [snapback]287011[/snapback]
I used to work with a guy who spoke Gaelic, but he just taught me crude expressions and obscenities.

I'm sure CLAYMORE C OCK will be on shortly to assert the impossibility of such.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 15:51:27
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 10 2007, 03:43 PM) [snapback]287008[/snapback]
Yeah right, immigrants enter the UK and find a giant holiday camp.
Someone has been indoctrinated by the reactionary gutter press me thinks.

And where do you get your information young man? wink.gif

I've worked among them, and let me assure you that as far as the NHS is concerned, they've 'lapped it up' with gusto.

'Giant holiday camp' is actually FAR closer to the mark than you could possibly imagine for large numbers of them.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 15:53:54
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 10 2007, 03:50 PM) [snapback]287019[/snapback]
I really doubt the Eastern European strawberry pickers and cleaners voted BNP at the last election. rolleyes.gif

Indeed! I suspect they resent being forcibly deported to slavery. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-10 15:54:38
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jun 10 2007, 03:53 PM) [snapback]287025[/snapback]
Are you fishing again?

Nope-sowing.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 15:56:41
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 10 2007, 03:53 PM) [snapback]287028[/snapback]
How on earth can you lap up the NHS?
If I were an immigrant looking for an easy ride, why would I pick such a paranoid country/nation/region/whatever like Britain? unsure.gif

If I start going into detail young man, I'll burn the skin off my fingers. What I've said is beyond dispute, and if you wish confirmation ask any inner city Glasgow G.P.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 16:00:12
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 10 2007, 03:54 PM) [snapback]287030[/snapback]
Gaelic is a language I'm ashamed at myself for never learning, I'm trying to talk my oldest daughter into going to classes as I would love her to do what I never done in memory of my great grandfather who came to Gourock from the Isle of Luing and could not speak one word of English to the day he died, he was a Gaelic preacher, also when my grandfather arrived here at the age of 12 he also could not speak a word of English either.

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midTONs I'm led to believe some of my ancestors spoke Latin.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 16:02:40
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 10 2007, 03:58 PM) [snapback]287039[/snapback]
You appeared to be connecting the BNP with the poorest members of society.
But new immigrants are mostly the poorest, most exploited members of society.

Can one be VOLUNTARILY exploited?
mortonjag 2007-06-10 16:05:07
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 10 2007, 04:00 PM) [snapback]287043[/snapback]
Of course if people stopped speaking Gaelic tomorrow we'd still have a record of it for future historians to lament its demise. I still think it would be a shame if that happened though.

And it's only some signs in a DIY store we're talking about FFS. rolleyes.gif

It'll only put a couple of pence on the price of a screw I'd imagine.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 16:12:10 Perhaps I can best answer all three of you good gentlemen, by asking you to give this issue two or three years.

I don't bow to the opinions of anybody just because he's perceived to be knowledgable.

Look at the travesties of justice in recent years as a result of the evidence of 'expert witnesses'.

Anyway we're ultimately arguing about the definition of 'a striker'.

When I state that Gowser's nor a striker I'm using my definition, which I've clearly set out before, and the wee man is

NOT A STRIKER
mortonjag 2007-06-10 16:16:16
QUOTE(briggsTON @ Jun 10 2007, 11:59 AM) [snapback]286901[/snapback]
Late 40's early 50's, Mortonjag, it was increased to 9d. Shock Horror !! It really didn't matter as most of the boys were lifted over

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My God, Sir-you are well ahead of your time in your ability to use a PC! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-10 16:18:00
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Jun 10 2007, 02:57 PM) [snapback]286972[/snapback]
Depending on his age contact either Chris or Peter

Do their preferences differ?
mortonjag 2007-06-10 16:22:29
QUOTE(briggsTON @ Jun 10 2007, 04:18 PM) [snapback]287062[/snapback]
Eventually limping into the 21st century

For you the Hal days must have been HUGE-I just started going as they were 'picking up' but you must have seen the 'Phoenix' effect in full perspective.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 16:26:16
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 10 2007, 04:16 PM) [snapback]287059[/snapback]
Two or three years, how convenient!
Will that give you time to immigrate to the Congo or somewhere, just in case you
are proved WRONG.
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Nope, it will give others time to see what I already have taken in!

Interesting that on the 'taxi' thread, we're told that 'Cowboy' didn't rate Fraser Wright. Cowboy isn't perfect by any means, but he can usually spot a good player. Just goes to show how wrong the 'experts' can sometimes be.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 16:31:58
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 10 2007, 11:28 AM) [snapback]286890[/snapback]
Join the club! biggrin.gif
I have been ceremoniously ignored by the tosser from yesterday.
I am going down to confess my sins today in the hope that he will welcome me back.
Either that, or I could tell him to p*ss off!

It's come to me with such clarity-I've been puzzled by that guy's posts for ages-he keeps telling us he's awful clever, yet he constantly posts disjointed and repetitive tripe.

That's because he's been talking to himself-EVERYBODY'S on ignore, and the poor c*nt hasn't clocked what he's done.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 16:35:24
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 10 2007, 04:29 PM) [snapback]287073[/snapback]
With regards Law (and to some extent Gowser) perhaps the 'jag is implying that someone can be a forward but not necessarily a 'striker'?

Correct-Denis Law was a brilliant goalscorer, but his function as No 10 in the Scotland team was that of a playmaking inside left.

At Manure he played in the same role-Charlton was more the striker as I recall.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 16:38:00
QUOTE(briggsTON @ Jun 10 2007, 04:33 PM) [snapback]287076[/snapback]
The Fifties started off fairly well but went rapidly downhill. The only redeeming feature was the great Tommy Orr. I saw Alloa give us a football lesson with John White & Dennis Gillespie at inside forward. The Hal days were like being reborn.

Was that the ill fated Tottenham ghost-a fantastic player!
mortonjag 2007-06-10 16:39:54
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 10 2007, 04:23 PM) [snapback]287069[/snapback]
You should be ashamed of yourself for not learning it then. wink.gif

Mea culpa.

O me miserum! sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-10 16:40:26
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 10 2007, 04:24 PM) [snapback]287070[/snapback]
Where... Homebase or Blytheswood Square? unsure.gif

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mortonjag 2007-06-10 17:17:40
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 10 2007, 04:49 PM) [snapback]287088[/snapback]
The same Cowboy who knocked back Willie McLaren because he wasn't good enough and who subsequently signed for Airdrie and was one of if not the key player in helping Airdrie over take us to win the 2nd division. I'm not sure he was able to spot a good player going by most of his signings.

Anyway, you are trying to twist the argument back in your favour by changing it back to what type of striker he is when the debate centres around you saying he is or should be an attacking midfielder.

I wouldn't dream of trying to twist an argument in my favour! wink.gif

I think the problem here is still definition.

Striker-instinctive predator (frequently seen as 'poacher', especially in the days of more sensible offside rules).

Goalscorer-somebody who scores goals (usually taken to be quite a lot of goals over a season), and in the days when football was played by men, almost invariably a FORWARD

Forward-in 'my' day one of five players, two of whom, the 'inside forwards', normally played from deeper-the equivalent of the modern attacking midfielder.

So I see Gowser-by definition as a poor man's Denis Law-if you like-a 'forward'-yes, but a midfield 'forward' if we have to fit everything into YOUR plan. A goalscorer-undoubtedly.

A STRIKER-nope-that's Spoonsy, and BTW if Cowboy was so poor at spotting players, almost every single famous manager who ever existed has knocked back boys who went on to prove him wrong.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 17:19:55
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 10 2007, 05:01 PM) [snapback]287093[/snapback]
You must have a different idea to me of what an attacking midfielder is. I don't see an attacking midfielder as someone who holds the ball up well.

Holding the ball up is what a striker should do. The type of guy who drops off with his back to goal and takes it into feet and links up with an attacking midfielder who faces play and makes runs beyond guys like McGowan.

Can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times McGraw 'held the ball up'. Were not even arguing here-we just have totally different definitions.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 17:26:00
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 10 2007, 05:17 PM) [snapback]287100[/snapback]
Pars will stroll it in my opinion and if we will finish above Thistle I will be happy.

The bookies obviously look at this in an extremely detailed and analytical fashion, though they never get the WHOLE picture right.

Interesting to see Corky rated above JM!
mortonjag 2007-06-10 17:36:10
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 10 2007, 04:19 PM) [snapback]287065[/snapback]
Why should we be putting immigrants into the socially deprived areas, instead of the nice areas?

There's an extremely 'nice' area only half a mile from this computer, where yesterday I saw a young Asian man emerge from a brand spanking new Bentley and saunter into a 'very nice' bungalow in Shawmoss Rd.

I can guarantee that the well integrated, established, and wealthy Asian community in that part of 'the toon', has no desire whatsoever to have its property values undermined by untimely introduction of the new breed of 'immigrants'.

Such is the human beast.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 17:40:30
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Jun 10 2007, 03:12 PM) [snapback]286984[/snapback]
Don't let facts get in the way of a good moan Byran

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FACT-he f*cked off

FACT -he'd have stayed if he'd been able to do his job properly

FACT-he said it himself.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 18:00:02
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jun 10 2007, 05:52 PM) [snapback]287119[/snapback]
If I had the petrol and a form of ignition I would burn every Commie and Nazi to a crisp.
c***s in the extreme at both ends of the political spectrum.

In fact such is my mood at the moment if I where to have access to the big red button I just might press the b*****d to see what Armageddon is all about.

midTONs..................make that four.

If your life depended on joining one or the other you'd top yourself with dignity, and I guess I would too.

The only comment I'd make is that The 'Nazi' philosophy is FAR closer to basic human survival instinct than sharing your last crumb with 'yer mate' so you can both die quicker in a lovely big red embrace.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 18:21:05
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 10 2007, 06:01 PM) [snapback]287126[/snapback]
I don't see what is so wrong with multi-culturalism. I accept fully that government interference and not encouraging immigrants to integrate is completely wrong but what is wrong with the fundamental concept of multi-culturalism? The term is used on here like herpes or rabies.
Take a walk down Ladbroke Grove in London as I have done a 1000 times and it's the most magical place because of the diverse nature of the people there. Those who complain about multi-culturalism should really get out more.
Given that a large part of Scottish culture is drinking, fighting, marching bands, drinking and more fighting are we in any position to criticise?
What's the alternative? A mono-culture?

There's nothing wrong with the principle DM-it's the speed and manner of change which-certainly for those of us over sixty- is breathtaking.

I remember being taken to London when I was a child-probably about ten or eleven at the time, and being astonished to see black people. There weren't that many about, but you saw them driving buses, on the Underground, and so on.

The first black man I ever saw in (the now) 'Inverclyde' had a turban on his head and a battered old suitcase. I remember it well as he knocked on our door, and I ran through to my maw-scared stiff. She bought something she didn't need, more out of pity than anything, and explained he was 'poor' and it was the only way he could get money to live on.

I certainly got my eyes opened in my twenties when I moved to the City, and to 'Uni' life, but even then, there were only two Indian restaurants in the whole of Glasgow.

In a few areas- most notably Govanhill-the largely Pakistani Asian community was in its infancy, but in NO way would anybody have thought, let alone suggested that Glasgow had a multicultural society.

Now, some forty years, and less than two generations on, the 'white man' is in a minority in several areas of the city-and by no means all of them are impoverished ghettoes.

I hate sweeping generalisations, but I'd make the observation that in this rush towards a 'multi culture', the beliefs and wishes of the majority of Scots have often been flouted purely for political expediency.

What's done in haste is frequently rued at leisure.
mortonjag 2007-06-10 18:41:07
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Jun 10 2007, 06:20 PM) [snapback]287142[/snapback]
Why?

As to the issue of language in general I believe it would be great for Scotland to teach a second language in school from a fairly yound age - say 7 or 8 - and it could easily be Gaelic. One reason is the cultural aspect but another is the educational benefit. Having a second language makes it easier to learn, understand and helps fluency in other languages .

Belgium is officially trilingual country where English is accepted as an unofficial fourth langauge - and most Flemings can get by in all of them (the Walloons only think in French and there are only a handful of native German speakers). Having effectively only been taught English in school (a couple of hours a week of French doesn't count) increasinly I find the British mindset of speaking English abroad while expecting foriegners to speak English when they visit Britain as scandalous.

ScotinBelgie

I've always thought it was atrocious, and find it equally ludicrous that the second language taught in Scottish schools should be Gaelic.

I'm afraid it's 'played out'-simple as that-by all means keep it as viable as possible for cultural, historical, folklore, or whatever reasons, but as a spoken language on any sensible scale, it's effectively dead and buried.

Furthermore, from a personal viewpoint it's a tiresome, lilting, droningly
monotonous and dirge like affront to the ears.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 05:33:35
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jun 10 2007, 10:19 PM) [snapback]287218[/snapback]
I was walking around the corner of George Street and Castle street about half an hour ago and walked right by Hugh Dallas talking to a few people. My girlfriend said "Did you see who that was?". I was surprised that she had instantly recognised Mr Dallas until I realised that she'd meant Pierre-Luigi Collina who was standing right next to him. Fancy that. I'd heard they were good mates from their refereeing days but was still surprised to see them hanging out. I hope they make it down to Faith for a few 'on the houses' from the Morton supporting manager.

Was the last time Dallas ref'd us a howler away against Dumbarton? Or was there another after that at home?

Sure the last was at Scapa-I was looking forward to a 'decent ref'-something to admire in comparison to the game's Hardie's and Fyfe's.

From the kick off he behaved like an officious headmasterly kn*b who thought he was above our level, and he had some 'howlers' of decisions too, mainly against the Ton.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 05:37:35
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 10 2007, 06:33 PM) [snapback]287157[/snapback]
That may or may not be true but you've not answered the question, what is fundamentally wrong with multi-culturlaism?
What is it about people that they cannot live side by side with people who have different skin colours, religions, political beliefs, etc?

You haven't read my post apparently-re-read the first bit DM.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 05:45:45
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 10 2007, 11:18 PM) [snapback]287249[/snapback]
David,

The part of Glasgow where I grew up was in a 'multi-cultural' area, before it was considered 'multi-cultural' and long before was the trendy thing to claim you live in a 'cosmopolitan' or 'bohemian' neighbourhood, instead it was regarded a s***hole by outsiders. Although it was much maligned, people lived in harmony there. There was catholics, protestants and 'p-kis'. That was a collective term used for them, whether they were Muslim, Seikh, Hindu or were from Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Middle East. There was never much 'racial' tension between locals and people for the most part got on well together. I have moved away from Glasgow about two years ago now, and every time I go back I see that the old place has changed for the worse. Add countless itinerant Polish Labourers to the local community, as well as Ghanians, Romanians, Kurds, Albanians, Kosovans and other groups to the mix, and when locals see all these newcomers from foreign shores suddenly become thier equals or even betters, getting better housing, more DSS handouts etc. then resentments will inevitably happen.

The Ladbroke Grove area of London is relatively wealthy when compared to the streets of Sighthill, Toryglen or Govanhill, and the Govan Market will never have the same ambience of the Portobello Road no matter how many card scammers and pickpockets from Nigeria we allow to walk our streets.

Exactly Narky-it's amazing that M.P.'s, most of whom probably have as big a clue about the real issues, as three quarters of the starry eyed posters on the forum, are allowed to shape our future. Your perception of the 's***hole' you were brought up in is realistic because you were there, and as I said earlier, the pace of enforced change is scary in the extreme.

mortonjag 2007-06-11 05:56:37
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 11 2007, 12:42 AM) [snapback]287280[/snapback]
I don't know anything about you. I referred not to you, but to the BNP as racist, and I think there just might be some evidence to substantiate that claim.
BTW are you a racist? tongue.gif

If, theoretically, the BNP were to support a long established Asian community in a complaint against perceived unfair discrimination from new mid European immigrants, they's still be labelled as racists.

If all people who embrace BNP thinking are racists, then all black men are Africans.

Racism's one thing. Being vilified for even QUESTIONING our becoming the'dumping ground' for Europe is quite another. I wish Bliar and his stuck up tart of a shagbag could be forced to live here for a fortnight. Cherie would be scared to let her little darlings outside the door in case they got mugged by one of those strange and very non Westminster looking types in the oddest and most various of garments.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 06:02:23
QUOTE(The Crippler @ Jun 11 2007, 01:34 AM) [snapback]287284[/snapback]
Even though i hate the media circus that goes around him like he is F1s version of Tiger Woods (or the new Schumi), i have a great respect for this guy as a driver. However it is still way too early to talk about World Championships or him becoming an all time great. I mean he is in his first year and has won a Grand Prix, which is very impressive (and indeed equals Schumis feat of winning a race in your first full season), but he still has a long way to go.

That, despite Coulthard, Villeneuve and some of our posters saying no time ago he was 'no great shakes'.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 06:04:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 11 2007, 03:22 AM) [snapback]287293[/snapback]

why it waters itself.

nae water now.

Now that Paris Hilton is back in jail for the long haul, she will be forced to do the thing she fears most in prison — use the toilet.

During her first three-day stint behind bars, Hilton was reportedly so worried guards would photograph her on the toilet that she refused to eat or drink.

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She's just takin' the piss.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 06:07:51
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Jun 10 2007, 06:32 PM) [snapback]287156[/snapback]
Joe left because he did not get the managers job FACT

What you really mean is he'd have stayed if he HAD got it. His alternative plan was already well hatched.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 06:09:50 If Shoogly's skint, why is he repelling boarders-Morton's to be his 'til he 'snuffs' he states.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 06:13:15
QUOTE(TonGa @ Jun 10 2007, 10:54 PM) [snapback]287238[/snapback]
NOT tongue.gif

'NOT' and 'WE'RE' actually! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-11 06:15:42
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 11 2007, 12:25 AM) [snapback]287276[/snapback]
Well if he's classed as an SPL STRIKER then 11 goals in a s***ty league two divisions down after playing in nearly every game ain't exactly a good record.

You've clarified things Willow-he's a 'striker' because JM was told that by Strachan et al-he's just been off form all season. That's why he was never once dropped. Was that Strachan's order too, or did Shoogly just like the wee man.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 06:20:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 11 2007, 06:13 AM) [snapback]287303[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

Where is Joe now ?

Would he team up again with Mark McGhee if McGhee gets the Motherwell gig ?

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I've lost touch, but at the time I'd been talking to Coughlin (who was at Berwick) and he explained that Joe had lined up a coaching post prior to his interview at Scapa.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 06:31:21 and to another great comedian-our own 'evolution' revolutionary

BENIN DAHOMEY
have a nice day!

and also to irvineTON and tonboy.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 06:42:27 ..writing in today's 'Herald', fires a broadside at Keith O'Brien's recent sermon.

Basically he's defending the 'Abortion Laws', and citing the reasons for their introduction in the first place.

Now I'm just thinking-has he any 'God given' right to tell a man of the cloth what he should or shouldn't preach?
mortonjag 2007-06-11 07:14:56
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 11 2007, 06:57 AM) [snapback]287309[/snapback]
I wouldn't disagree with much of what you write there, although as much as I dislike Ms Blair, I would never call her a tart or a shagbag merely because I don't like her politics. No, I don't think that everyone who votes for the BNP is racist. That doesn't change the fact that the leadership and many of the policies of the BNP are racist.

My perception is based not on her politics-does she (OR he) have any genuine heart felt political views?

The 'legal lady' has been exposed in shady self aggrandising deals-she writes books instructing on how to SUE government agencies, and she touts herself and family as Lefties.

Tart-sweet and sour simultaneously.

Shagbag-well I wouldn't-not even for an honorary peerage and a free Harrods shopper.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 07:33:13
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jun 11 2007, 07:18 AM) [snapback]287311[/snapback]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6739007.stm

Fair to say we don't come out of this report looking too clever and equally interesting to compare this with labour's 'Best wee country' advertising and marketing campaign. Which do you think is closer to the truth?

In many ways the report's timing couldn't be better, coming out at the start of the SNP's administration and giving the new government something to get their teeth into. Question is are the problems too endemic for any party to make a real difference in the short term or are the negatives simply being exagerated?

Answer is YES to both IMO.

I'm certainly qualified to speak on the health education aspect TaunTon. Despite huge efforts from those concerned with nutrition, and social 'habits'-including the use of nicotine, alcohol and drugs, there seems to be an ingrained reticence in some areas, to be educated.

The Glasgow/Lanarkshire/West of Scotland conurbation has the worst record for premature death and morbidity in the whole of Europe. The usual excuses about deprivation and poverty will undoubtedly be trotted out by posters who read much and know little. The fact is that priorities are skewed-pure and simple.

Anecdotal, this, but I remember discussing the concept of 'five portions of fruit and veg. a day' with a lady I met on an evening course. She herself wasn't skint, but as she dragged on her kingsize fag she 'lectured ' me about how those 'poor' people couldn't afford such luxuries.

The Bookies, tobacconist, and 'Local', must by her judgement be a Utopian 'no go' area for them! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-11 07:39:49
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 11 2007, 07:30 AM) [snapback]287312[/snapback]
Well, perhaps Ms Blair might not be overcome with lust if you went kerb crawling by in your turbo convertible, saying, with a wink, "how's about it doll ?" Not even for a seat in the stand at Cappielow. tongue.gif

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Something kinda contradictory about kerb crawling in a turbo convertible DE-fornication al fresco-and as for Mrs Bliar not wanting a seat at Scapa-well we always knew she was a tasteless wee midden.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 08:38:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 11 2007, 08:25 AM) [snapback]287319[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

at least the bookies seem to share my view.

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You didn't READ what I said-'the truth is axial'-I meant we'd be somewhere in the middle!
mortonjag 2007-06-11 08:42:47
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 11 2007, 08:30 AM) [snapback]287320[/snapback]
I was informed last night that an EXTREMELY rich person is very interested in buying us.

It came from a very good source who informed me of somerthing else a while back which ended up happening.

That's us finished mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-11 09:01:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 11 2007, 08:44 AM) [snapback]287328[/snapback]
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only 79 voted to agree or disagree with mortonjag's opinion.

But, there are over 100 votes to categorise mortonjag's opinion.

Another stuffed up ballot paper in the tradition of the Scottish Executive ??

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And how! It would have been fine left as 'Yes', 'No', or 'Undecided'.

Anyhow, for what it was worth 30% agree, and that's FAR more than I'd have expected.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 09:03:44
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 11 2007, 08:36 AM) [snapback]287324[/snapback]
Didn't see the article so please clarify. I think there might well be a bit of MJ mischief making in that loaded question.

Did he actually say that O'Brian shouldn't make anti-abortion sermons as your question implies, or was he simply giving a counter argument?

I would be amazed if it was the former, but like I said that's what your question implies. If on the other hand it was the latter and he was simply giving another opinion on the subject then I can't see anything wrong with that.

Wood eye.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 09:07:55
QUOTE(shedhead @ Jun 11 2007, 08:58 AM) [snapback]287331[/snapback]
Anecdotal, this, but I remember discussing the concept of 'five portions of fruit and veg. a day' with a lady I met on an evening course. She herself wasn't skint, but as she dragged on her kingsize fag she 'lectured ' me about how those 'poor' people couldn't afford such luxuries.

It would be funny if it wasn't true.

I didn't know you were on that course shedhead-you should have introduced yourself. I was the strikingly handsome chap who looked about 45 but claimed he was older and played the flute.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 09:09:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 11 2007, 09:04 AM) [snapback]287335[/snapback]

the truth is axial


mortonjag, I read AND understood that, mate.

However, others MAY have thought that you were suggesting that DDFR and JM had formed "an axis of evil."

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Wood eye?
mortonjag 2007-06-11 09:10:28
QUOTE(shedhead @ Jun 11 2007, 08:54 AM) [snapback]287330[/snapback]
mentalist rolleyes.gif

shedhead-you're in a bad mood again! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-11 09:26:24
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 11 2007, 09:14 AM) [snapback]287341[/snapback]
Personally I am getting slightly worried that we don't appear to be signing anyone, and we could be left with the dregs. I see QoS have signed Neil McFarlane, who I understand is a fairly strong midfielder - should we not have been in for someone like him given our lightweight, if skilful, midfield?

I actually think we have a reasonably good team at the moment, but adding a bit more muscle wouldn't fo any harm - and as for strikers, I think we need more options.

I find it depressing that so many people think Partick will finish above us when we outperformed them so comprehensively the season before last - and we are a lot better now than we were then.

Let's not panic Alibi-and let's not tear them to pieces 'til the stall's set out.

I'm much more concerned about the club's apparently cavalier attitude to dissemination of information to the paying punters.

The white elephant gmfc is hardly ever updated, and usually it's just with a terse statement about fixtures or the like. Would it be so difficult for Shoogly (or somebody else, as he peered over the shoulder) to write a wee reassuring piece? dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-11 09:26:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 11 2007, 09:15 AM) [snapback]287342[/snapback]

peg leg

peg leg

matter of a pinion.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 09:29:06
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 11 2007, 09:24 AM) [snapback]287345[/snapback]
Brown Ferguson would have been decent *if* we were needing more attack-minded midfielders, which we're really not. Good signings, however, for the Second Division, but not that great.

Agreed-our plethora caused endless problems last time. Experienced, motivating, 'holding' midfielder is required.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 10:17:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 11 2007, 09:44 AM) [snapback]287349[/snapback]

has Sick joined the Sea Scouts ?


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He wouldn't even get a 'bob a job' down under NewTon-but stop joking-this is an extremely serious matter-lost at sea and nobody seems to care-no yellow balloons-no Papal audience-nuffin! sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-11 10:20:16
QUOTE(shedhead @ Jun 11 2007, 10:11 AM) [snapback]287352[/snapback]
45 , you didn't look a pound over 40 stone mate. Shouldn't be too tough on yourself.

Ah got you now-you're the wee freak with the permanent frown who kept calling me 'Fatty' and wouldn't share your Twixes.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 10:22:12
QUOTE(shedhead @ Jun 11 2007, 10:17 AM) [snapback]287353[/snapback]
Francie and Josie eat your hearts out .

Francis and Joseph-eh shedhead-to what do we owe this unheralded promotion? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-11 10:26:14
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 11 2007, 10:24 AM) [snapback]287358[/snapback]
I that an eclaire or a marangue?

You rang.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 10:33:29
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 11 2007, 10:23 AM) [snapback]287357[/snapback]
There is an undoubted link between poverty and ill health. That's not making an excuse, just a statement of fact. Compare the health statistics of Bearsden and Shettleston and it's clear for all to see.

Are you disputing my statement or just inviting a discussion of poverty.

True poverty
Relative poverty
Secondary poverty
Lies masquerading as poverty.

I'd suggest DE-again based on experience rather than bits of paper, that there's a direct correlation between intelligence and poverty in the majority of cases where ill health is attributed to the latter.

I've met plenty of poorly off folk who had the gumption to do something about health issues. The fact is that most of those statistics you quote relate to secondary poverty-f*cking up on priorities.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 10:34:29
QUOTE(shedhead @ Jun 11 2007, 10:26 AM) [snapback]287359[/snapback]
Here you , I weigh a good 18 stone myself . It's every fat c*** for themselves these days . And anyway it wasn't a twix , it was a yorkie bar . THERE NOT FOR GIRLS!!!!!!!!!!!

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unless you know how to use them properly! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-11 10:38:48
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 11 2007, 10:35 AM) [snapback]287371[/snapback]
Long live Glorious Leader Salmond!

Economic plan a marvel to behold!

NO-IT'S ALIVE
mortonjag 2007-06-11 10:41:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 11 2007, 10:29 AM) [snapback]287365[/snapback]
perhaps he is hiding from the bookie, who took his bet on the Faroes ?

was the bet on credit ?

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Davy Jones didn't get him I'm afraid NewTon-he must have a laptop on the boat with him! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-11 10:43:56
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 11 2007, 10:28 AM) [snapback]287362[/snapback]
Christ MJ, I though you were my Butler there for a minute.

Happy to help if you're ever stuck-plenty of experience with corks and cellars.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 10:47:47
QUOTE(shedhead @ Jun 11 2007, 10:39 AM) [snapback]287376[/snapback]
laugh.gif Ya pervy old basa.

All because the Lady loves Milk Tray started me-then I graduated to 'Flake' but that's awful messy.

Canny beat a big Yorkie-it opens up endless opportunities.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 10:50:57
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 11 2007, 10:47 AM) [snapback]287382[/snapback]
Will Dougie even speak to this guy ??
Gidday WillowMan,

If you man is serious, then DDFR has no choice.

DDFR has a fiduciary duty to act in the best interests of ALL Morton shareholders.

So, if your man wants to speak with DDFR, then DDFR will speak with him.

AND so say all 30% of us!
mortonjag 2007-06-11 10:52:58
QUOTE(asdfhjkla @ Jun 11 2007, 10:31 AM) [snapback]287367[/snapback]
NO WAI!

4 CRTN
mortonjag 2007-06-11 10:56:09
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 11 2007, 10:52 AM) [snapback]287388[/snapback]
Hi babyface, I know you're desperately craving attention and everything but do you mind toning it down a bit?

Some of us are working!

REALLY

IMAGINE

HOPE THE BOSS AIN'T IN
mortonjag 2007-06-11 10:58:24
QUOTE(shedhead @ Jun 11 2007, 10:56 AM) [snapback]287393[/snapback]
Ye canny just go charging in way a yorkie bar . Get her going with one of these , the burds love a bot of foreplay.

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Too mean-the electric toothbrush does the trick fine! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-11 11:00:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 11 2007, 10:55 AM) [snapback]287390[/snapback]
We need Mr Rae but he also needs us and the goodwill of the wider community it is a two way street .
Gidday chrissiboi,

IMHO, the Ton does NOT need DDFR - it needs a DDFR.

The Ton needs a majority shareholder, who is willing to fund the club's operations.

Today that is DDFR.

But, if DDFR was hit by the proverbial bus, it would not be the end of the Ton.

DDFR has publically stated that he has already received takeover approaches.

Probably wouldn't be the end of Shoogly either!
mortonjag 2007-06-11 11:05:52
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 11 2007, 11:00 AM) [snapback]287398[/snapback]
Both.
Within the context of developed nations, any definition of poverty must be relative. Poverty, however relative, does present attendant problems, not least of which are depressive illnesses. Hand outs to the feckless have created a dependency culture. There is an army of slope-abouts out there who have lost all self respect, who try to escape their misery by binging on drugs, drink and/or junk foods. First steps to a healthier lifestyle for these folks could be, I suggest, withdrawal of unconditional hand outs, a structured programme of rehabilitation and work training, and the provision of gainful employment.

The 'chancers' are by no means always the 'thickies' DE. I agree with a lot of what you say here.

The point I was making is that thousands who are NOT in the chancer brigade are still too daft to take simple advice on how to spend their limited means if they want to be healthy and live longer.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 11:07:14
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 11 2007, 10:58 AM) [snapback]287395[/snapback]
I think that's your hour about up - doesn't anyone else at the Day Centre want to use the internet?

Sauna-you mean!
mortonjag 2007-06-11 11:09:40
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 11 2007, 10:55 AM) [snapback]287391[/snapback]
PERSONALLY I BLAME KAFFLICK SKOOLS AND GEORGE GALLOWAY

Micky boy-you've just 'shot up'-admit it! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-11 11:13:50
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 11 2007, 11:09 AM) [snapback]287402[/snapback]
So you'd take a Banker's word as gospel would you ? Ever been sold an endowment motgage ? A pension plan ?
Think bank charges are reasonable then, do you? biggrin.gif
Call me a cynic if you like but I'll take it all with more than just a pinch of salt. As I said, so far so good and I hope it continues.

Nothing wrong with cynicism when it comes to politics and economics DE. Take everything with a

SALT CELLAR
mortonjag 2007-06-11 11:17:35
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 11 2007, 11:14 AM) [snapback]287407[/snapback]
[/b]If only we were all as smart as you, Mentaljag. I can only imagine what the world would be like if this was so. biggrin.gif

Oh c'mon-it's fine the way it is DE-the'Haves', the 'Have Nots' and a huge heterogeneous middle whose relative paucity of wit, and or money, is often harder to fathom than our next signings for the Ton.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 11:19:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 11 2007, 11:14 AM) [snapback]287408[/snapback]
Sick Mick lives.

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...and claims he's at WORK

Euphemism indeed from the ubiquitous cabin boy with a laptop and chocolate bar.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 11:40:45
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 11 2007, 11:25 AM) [snapback]287418[/snapback]
Gidday Skipper Boomerang Koala Bear, Colin and Justin

You two auld c*nts are practically thrilled at seeing me post - is this some kind of bizarre form of admiration?

YES
mortonjag 2007-06-11 11:47:16
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 11 2007, 11:09 AM) [snapback]287404[/snapback]
I was thinking of those proper 1960s SMT red double deckers.

Not the wee mini buses that Inverclyde has today.

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was it SMT ?

Or am I missing a letter ?

Scottish Motor Transport-spot on-and there was a garage at Inchgreen, but they had a huge depot in Kilmarnock, and many had Ayrshire number plates BAC, GAC etc.

BTW do you remember Greenock's was VS, Pishley's XS, while Renfrewshire was HS
mortonjag 2007-06-11 12:04:02
QUOTE(cmdc @ Jun 11 2007, 11:21 AM) [snapback]287414[/snapback]
He's not classed as an SPL striker. He's classed as a striker with the potential to play in the SPL, hence why we got him on loan in the first place. He can't have been that off form to have made it into the team of of the year and to have been voted by his opponenets for the player of the year short list! Remember it was McInally who coached MCGowan at Celtic so its not as if he signed him blind on the instruction of Strachan, he signed a player, with potential, who he knew very well. And by and large it was a successful signing.

Ach-away and bile yer heid.

McGowan's a talented wee boy who spent half the season here running round in ever decreasing circles-either that or tried to walk the ball into the net.

He's got skill, and scored some nice goals (missing more chances than he's taken) and you describe that as a 'striker'.

A 'striker' strikes-pounces on half chances, and buries sitters. Many a 'striker has not had the native talent of wee Gowser, but all strikers get into the right place at the right time, and score from more opportunities than not.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 12:06:10
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 11 2007, 11:52 AM) [snapback]287425[/snapback]
VS and XS - sure I do.
I did not know about HS.

Scottish Motor Transport ???

I don't think so, mortonjag.

Would you believe Scottish Motor Traction Company ?

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I'm confusing it with a more recent conglomerate-you are correct!
mortonjag 2007-06-11 12:07:52
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 11 2007, 11:23 AM) [snapback]287416[/snapback]
He was in Scotland for some 60th anniversary thing for something. I only browsed the story but it was pack page of the daily retard.

the anniversary of his baldy heid-maybe?
mortonjag 2007-06-11 12:08:56
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 11 2007, 11:43 AM) [snapback]287423[/snapback]
Mick, botswaine is waiting for you down in the bilges, you'd better run along.

Who is this Bot?
mortonjag 2007-06-11 12:10:13
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 11 2007, 11:54 AM) [snapback]287427[/snapback]
Ah magic. Another illiterate auld sodomite who has probably seen two World Wars.

It's a trio now then, is it?

It's a f*ckin army Micky boy, and were coming to

GET YOU
mortonjag 2007-06-11 12:14:49
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jun 11 2007, 11:57 AM) [snapback]287428[/snapback]
With paranoia like that you should be a Celtic supporter tongue.gif

I think some of the problems we have are clearly deep seated and sadly cultural and as such I can't see them changing in the short term. Low expectations/aspirations, dependency on drink/drugs/benefits etc are all too easy to see around Scotland, particularly in the west and all play a part in effecting life chances.

Hopefully the SNP will see this as an incentive to be genuinely radical in their approach to policy making although that might be a triumph of hope over experience.

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How would you suggest they start-free brain transplants?
mortonjag 2007-06-11 12:19:20
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 11 2007, 11:19 AM) [snapback]287410[/snapback]
Sick Mick lives.

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in a yellow submarine,
a yellow, white, and green-
but mainly yellow submarine

and his friends are all aboard
telling fibs about the times they've scored
and the band begins to play

ratatatata
mortonjag 2007-06-11 12:22:06
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 11 2007, 12:20 PM) [snapback]287445[/snapback]
Are you sure you should be threatening anyone with your dodgy hip? ohmy.gif

I have two perfect titanium replacements I'll have you know-paid for privately so that you and your ilk can move up the NHS queue! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-11 12:23:56
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jun 11 2007, 12:17 PM) [snapback]287443[/snapback]
Bugger, no news then. sad.gif

Sick Mick's on a different thread princess-he's not interested in Morton.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 12:36:41
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Jun 11 2007, 12:35 PM) [snapback]287451[/snapback]
the M&S sael is on

Poundstretcher-more like!
mortonjag 2007-06-11 12:38:49
QUOTE(Youngsa @ Jun 11 2007, 12:35 PM) [snapback]287452[/snapback]
Sorry to piss on your parade but its very much 'meet the new boss same as the old boss' sad.gif

That wouldn't happen to be the 'I'll do anything to stay in power' boss?
mortonjag 2007-06-11 12:40:53
QUOTE(SherrifFatman @ Jun 11 2007, 12:29 PM) [snapback]287450[/snapback]
What isa everyones opinion of the Cafe in Gourock?? I took my Girlfriend and my mum in saturday for lunch, we had 2 plain burgers and a chilli burger, 1 pint of tennents, 1 glass red wine and one lemonade and lime.

The damage - £32

Yes , i noticed the burger was £8 each, i thought if they have the balls to chg £8 for a burger and chips (not very many chips either) then it must be the best burger ever made. As it was it was ok, thats it, just ok. Id have paid £4 for it and thought even then it would be just ok for the money.

The Burgers from weatherspoons are far superior and you get a pint with it for half the price of a cafe burger. Yes weatherspoons are a massive company and their prices reflect this but charging £8 for a semi burnt burger is outrageous.

No i didnt complain, ill just not be back.

ps - although it has one of the best outlooks you will get possibly anywhere, the place is a mess inside. Perhaps with my £32 pounds they can buy a wee tin pf emulsion and freshen the place up.

How long has that place been open-if it's viable with prices like that, Gourock must be full of rich eejits.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 12:42:56
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 11 2007, 12:17 PM) [snapback]287442[/snapback]
You're right to recognise that there can be no easy fix for such deep rooted problems. You talk of low aspirations and expectations. I'm hoping that the prospect of self governance might raise these somewhat. Perhaps when people realise that the future could be within their own hands they might be prompted to get up off their arses and start getting things sorted. Radical policies are needed though, no doubt about that.

as in....
mortonjag 2007-06-11 12:51:36
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 11 2007, 12:43 PM) [snapback]287460[/snapback]
I think the Kaff is alright. The food is Ok, better than the Spinnaker but maybe a wee bit overpriced. The service can be wayward sometimes too. But that view must be one of the best in the World. I love it.

Three burgers/buns at wholesale prices-total £1.50 (IF)

I pint of lager £4 would be reasonable, with £3 dear for a standard glass of wine and £2 for a soft drink.

Even allowing the full mark up on the booze which is enormous at the prices I've quoted, it leaves each burger at nearly eight quid each.

DE I can get a decent Indian meal with the missus for that, including starters and drink.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 13:08:36
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 11 2007, 12:51 PM) [snapback]287462[/snapback]
Is it too easy to point out the obvious of him being manager of greenock Morton football club he should be seen in the town now and then or am I being pedantic? rolleyes.gif

They could put big photies of his coupon up on billboards an fingz Puggsy.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 13:27:12
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 11 2007, 01:23 PM) [snapback]287470[/snapback]
I could get an even better Indian meal for £20 per head, but not in Gourock. Maybe you're missing my point. Go down and take in the view and you might see what I mean.

EH-you don't have to PAY for a decent view DE-I'd rather buy a puddin' supper and a 'six pack' and sit on my brother's roof terrace at the cliff in Wemyss Bay.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 13:33:01
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 11 2007, 12:54 PM) [snapback]287465[/snapback]
Like I've outlined before. Tackling poverty, crime, addiction, unemployment, bad housing, bad health, dependency cultures, social irresponsiblity, neddism et cetera. In short, to give the Scottish Nation a boot in the arse so that we can regain control of our communities and take pride in ourselves again.
How's that for starters ?

I'm asking HOW?

I'd tackle the drug issue by shooting every pusher on sight-nae probs.

Paedos would get their baws chopped aff an' heids shaved an' tattooed.

Neds would get flogged for first offences, and shot for a second.

Measures like that would certainly be 'a boot up the arse'-AND they'd work.

I suspect you'll tell me they're impractical-aye mibbe-but no more so than the pathetic vote catching surface scarting we'll get from this next lot.

Vive la revolution.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 14:44:39
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 11 2007, 01:43 PM) [snapback]287482[/snapback]
Jawohl Mein Fuhrer.
Just as an aside, these castrations, would you carry them out with or without anaesthetic ? laugh.gif

That would be up to the crime victims and their relatives!
mortonjag 2007-06-11 14:46:22
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 11 2007, 01:30 PM) [snapback]287476[/snapback]
Talk about a cheapskate on a health food diet, eh ? laugh.gif

BLOOD DE-good protein-plenty of iron in it too-and in beer!
mortonjag 2007-06-11 14:47:28
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jun 11 2007, 01:31 PM) [snapback]287477[/snapback]
Can we all take our carry outs and sit on your brother's roof terrace?

Nae probs-so long as he's away poncing about somewhere! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-11 14:50:29
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jun 11 2007, 02:39 PM) [snapback]287498[/snapback]
Out of interest are you talking about cointreau or something different entirely?

QUANTRO-what the man said-I understood, and I bet every other poster did except you-have a stiff Marrteenie ya p***k.
mortonjag 2007-06-11 14:55:32
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jun 11 2007, 02:39 PM) [snapback]287497[/snapback]
I call them "pouncers" laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

That's the elusive word-Gowser's a goalscorer(sometimes), but he's not a

POUNCER
mortonjag 2007-06-11 14:57:50
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 11 2007, 02:52 PM) [snapback]287504[/snapback]
Cop out.
Anyway, the victim might prefer a red hot poker to be inserted in the offender's sphincter. Or the boaby wrung through a mangle. You might offer them a menu of choices. The possibilities are limited only by your own vivid imagination. tongue.gif

I'd do it humanely-they'd be presented with the menu, and could choose for themselves. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-11 16:33:53
QUOTE(cmdc @ Jun 11 2007, 02:56 PM) [snapback]287506[/snapback]
I dont really get what this debate is about? Is it that he shouldn't have been playing up top with Templeman? Or is it that he should have been there but we should have called him something else? (IMO the first answer is he should have been there and given the inconsitency you expect from a young player was very good there, and the second answer is beyond me!)

It's about Gowser being called a striker when he's not-nor is he a


POUNCER
mortonjag 2007-06-12 05:49:25
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 11 2007, 05:01 PM) [snapback]287536[/snapback]
'Common sense' is a complete social construction. Michael Howard used 'common sense' as a way of attacking Gypsies in the 2001 General Election. He made me come out against common sense.

You should have used your common sense and ignored that oily tongued grease spot.

Anyway if you know a jot about the modern day 'city' gypsies in their Rotwelier/Alsatian patrolled caravan sites DM, you'll know something about a rare breed of capitalists who pay no taxes and live in (sometimes) well disguised luxury.
mortonjag 2007-06-12 05:51:08 I would read it, but the man can't tell a striker from a doorknob.
mortonjag 2007-06-12 05:53:21
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 11 2007, 05:28 PM) [snapback]287546[/snapback]
In all fairness, only four cars can feasibly win a GP at the moment.

OH-THAT's what it's about-well stick me, you, NewTon, and Sick Mick in McLarens and Ferraris, and we'll buy out Shoogly in a week.
mortonjag 2007-06-12 05:56:29
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 11 2007, 04:59 PM) [snapback]287535[/snapback]
Did you not claim in another thread a while back that you were a racist and proud of it?
I have absolutely no problem with people being racist as long as they're open about it.

Some of the stuff on this thread is really depressing to say the least. Talk about peddling cheap and outdated stereotypes.
I would hardly say that Ladbroke Grove was a wealthy area, historically its been a run down place. It's a brilliant place to walk down because of the mix. People are people and some people have an inbuilt hostility to anyone who isn't the same as them. Fortunately life experience usually helps people to grow up and accept other skin colours, religions, etc.

Which is why this thread is actually a figment of the imagination. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-12 06:01:22
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 11 2007, 05:37 PM) [snapback]287551[/snapback]
Time for your pills MJ - VERY paranoid

Pas du tout-the Bliar Barristress would crap her silk knickers if I showed her around certain parts of the South Side.

We're not talking Oak Mall here.
mortonjag 2007-06-12 06:08:24 Mortonjag is for once gobsmacked. Those same people who intend to boycott away matches for the sake of a measly two or three quid, are squandering their hard earned shekels on burgers and a view.
mortonjag 2007-06-12 06:11:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 12 2007, 01:40 AM) [snapback]287659[/snapback]
Imprisoned hotel heiress Paris Hilton has said she believes God has given her a new chance and she plans to stop acting dumb and put her influence to good use.

Hilton called television journalist Barbara Walters from the medical wing of a Los Angeles jail, where she is being held for violating probation in a drink-driving case, and Walters recounted the conversation on her ABC television show, The View.

"I'm not the same person I was," Hilton told Walters.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=272240
It's wonderful that Paris has found God.

Now, if she can find Sick Mick, he could make her life complete.

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She is in the medical wing-NOT back 'in jail' as so many posters gleefully announced.

She appears to have a severe personality problem, complicated by addictive behaviour.

She and Micky boy may well be kindred spirits.
mortonjag 2007-06-12 06:21:59 Just FAO CLAYMORE C OCK et al.

Bawheid's wee hinger on's going to give us a Health service which will 'meet demand', and won't involve increased use of the private sector.

The present system has never done that since its inception almost 60 years ago, (on the promise that as people's health improved demand would LESSEN) rolleyes.gif

Why is it I

DETEST

politicians?

mortonjag 2007-06-12 06:28:15
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 11 2007, 05:24 PM) [snapback]287544[/snapback]
I would like to hear Auld Shoogly's opinion of Mentaljag. I'm sure the mad Doctor would too. biggrin.gif

His opinions of 'Mentaljag' the mad doctor who is naughty enough to ruffle his feathers on this 'rag', and those of the real person, would possibly be at odds. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-12 06:34:51
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 11 2007, 08:21 PM) [snapback]287588[/snapback]
His decisions haven't exactly yielded a good return for the cash that we owe his company . He has put a financial commitment into the club but this is a loan . We could end up in as much financial troubles as before if DDFR's own company went into a decline .
Don't rock the boat , this is your club as much as it is anyone elses , if you feel there are things that could be improved at the club you should not be forced into inactivity because of some misplaced loyalty .
We all know DDFR's investment helped save the club , that shouldn't give him carte blanche to run the club as his personal empire.
DDFR like us all make mistakes and errors of judgement . He should not be considered by anyone above reproach .

He should not be considered by anyone as 'above him', Chrissiboi.

His claim to fame-owner of a wee sweetie factory and presently Chairman of a quite wee football club.

Shoogly says he wants the SPL asap. Posters say he's adequately funding and managing things, and he confirms financial offers are to be repelled 'til he's in the box.

I'd suggest we all trip down to Ladbrokes today and bang our life savings on promotion next season.
mortonjag 2007-06-12 06:40:27
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 11 2007, 09:15 PM) [snapback]287615[/snapback]
Only true up to a point. Selling the company would require a special resolution and that requires 75% vote which Dougie controls no problem. In theory, shareholders holding more than 10% could claim to be an 'oppressed minority' if they reckoned Dougie was acting contrary to their interests but they would have a hard time proving it. I am not sure anyway that the trust holds as much as 10% so sorry guys. The company belongs to Dougie until he chooses to move it on!

And after a full season's boycott by the paying fans it won't be worth a 'Fudgy Wudgy'.
mortonjag 2007-06-12 06:51:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 11 2007, 11:33 PM) [snapback]287646[/snapback]
http://www.clydefc.co.uk/latestnews.cfm?id=2323

"It was thought that he was set to move abroad to coach again, this time in the USA, but the lure of Cumbernauld and The Bully Wee was too great and the big Scot will immediately start to build a squad able to compete with the best in the First Division next season."

the big Scot will immediately start to build a squad able to compete with the best in the First Division next season.

No way - he's given JM too much head start.

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It's funny how almost every time a competitor takes on a new manager-our posters automatically brand him as useless.

Only time will tell.
mortonjag 2007-06-12 06:53:31
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 11 2007, 11:50 PM) [snapback]287651[/snapback]
still only 80 votes, mortonjag.

Time for a new poll ?

And maybe you make the next one a wee bit easier ?

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On its way Sir!
mortonjag 2007-06-12 07:00:59 The last poll seemed very non specific. This one's not supposed to be about whether or not I or you like or dislike the Chairman. He has stated that 'as long as there's breath in his body' Morton will be his.

I sense he's already realised that despite ambitions for the SPL, it's a harder struggle financially than he predicted.

Setting aside the delegation issue, IF a substantial investment was offered in exchange for Shoogly taking a non executive position at the club, and IF that was made by another Ton supporter, what should our Chairman do-step aside or repel boarders?

Just a simple YES or NO with your comments.
mortonjag 2007-06-12 07:04:14 wacko.gif try again Muppet!
mortonjag 2007-06-12 07:26:01 ...have not contributed a single post-seems an offal lot.
mortonjag 2007-06-12 07:31:33 83 today.


340 years since first successful blood transfusion-MUCH older than that Jehovah's lot.

Happy birthday to BOBO also.
mortonjag 2007-06-12 08:00:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 12 2007, 07:55 AM) [snapback]287688[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

They would be the silent majority.

Do they work for, or do their spouses work for Golden Casket ?

huh.gif huh.gif

Spice or spies? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-12 08:02:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 12 2007, 07:58 AM) [snapback]287689[/snapback]

I presume you left Kay out on purpose.

Why ?

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unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-12 08:06:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 12 2007, 08:05 AM) [snapback]287693[/snapback]
and perhaps make it clear that under 21s and over 50s may vote.

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wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-12 08:52:56
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 12 2007, 08:09 AM) [snapback]287695[/snapback]
blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif

Sorry I was too cryptic - I am off to Iyengar Yoga to practice my handstands.
smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

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mortonjag 2007-06-12 08:53:52
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 12 2007, 08:18 AM) [snapback]287696[/snapback]
This is the best you can do?

Shameful lads, shameful.

What do you blame?
mortonjag 2007-06-12 08:59:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 12 2007, 08:50 AM) [snapback]287704[/snapback]
Not true. If you mean Iain Banks, I saw him at Cappielow twice last season.

AND he'd do a good 'From the Chairman's desk'!
mortonjag 2007-06-12 09:01:07
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 12 2007, 08:58 AM) [snapback]287710[/snapback]
You might have 30% on this board who disapprove of Dougie in some degree ranging from minor irritation to major dissatisfaction. I would seriously doubt though, if there are enough ardent disapprovers to mount anything that even remotely approached a boycott. I doubt if even you, as the arch critic of Cappielow management, would miss Morton v Thistle or Dundee, etc etc at Cappielow.

The primary object of a football club is to put a winning team on the park and if they get the results this coming season I'll be happy.

I WAS theorising!

Merely pointing out that he's NOT omnipotent-that if there's a will, there's a way.
mortonjag 2007-06-12 09:04:41
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 12 2007, 09:01 AM) [snapback]287715[/snapback]
The answer to your loaded question is of course a qualified yes but I would want to know a lot more about the potential purchaser and his motives

Qualified question!

'Loaded's got naughty connotations.
mortonjag 2007-06-12 09:06:55
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 12 2007, 08:54 AM) [snapback]287708[/snapback]
perhaps they have no spleen to vent rolleyes.gif

What do you know about splenectomy Trumpet? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-12 09:07:58
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jun 12 2007, 09:01 AM) [snapback]287713[/snapback]
You want it in English or French? Forward or backwards?

f*** off moron. Go back to your bigot board.

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mortonjag 2007-06-12 09:08:41
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 12 2007, 08:58 AM) [snapback]287711[/snapback]
THE UNION
AND KAFFLICK SCHOOLS!

In that order?
mortonjag 2007-06-12 09:38:54
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jun 12 2007, 09:24 AM) [snapback]287724[/snapback]
Get out more.

Get a life.

GIVE IT A REST.

I'm retired FFS-I get out PLENTY, thanks!

There are 24 hours in a day in case you hadn't noticed, and I only sleep for six. The rest of the time I'll do exactly as I please, and if that includes regularly drawing attention to an issue I think's important, that's what I'll do.

What are you supposed to be doing right now? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-12 09:41:18
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jun 12 2007, 09:24 AM) [snapback]287725[/snapback]
We are in the 1st Division, Cappielow is looking better than it has for years - a lot of money has been spent on the playing surface (Never floods and has won awards year on year). Give it a rest Man!!!

If a Morton fan could prove that they would invest vast sums if they took over from Dougie then I am sure we would all listen, but to my knowledge this has not happened.
Go on yourself Dougie.

2nd Division Champions 06/07 - We're in the 1st Division.

So you'd knock back a genuine Ton fan who was willing to buy Shoogly's share, and put as much again in?
mortonjag 2007-06-12 09:44:19
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 12 2007, 09:24 AM) [snapback]287723[/snapback]
The difference between Morton and Thistle in the signing stakes is that we have a squad whereas Thistle have to sign one following the clear out. They were left with 8 signed players and if you assume they need a squad of around 20, then they need 12 signings of which they already have 5 or 6.

Having said we have a squad, I would agree that it is not good enough to challenge for promotion but it probably is good enough for a finish as per the bookies predictions. If though we get the right 3/4 signings then we just might be up there challenging.

Keep the faith!

AGREED!
mortonjag 2007-06-12 09:46:47
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 12 2007, 09:09 AM) [snapback]287721[/snapback]
That's some fairly pretentious talk coming from a bog-dweller who probably shags his first cousin. ohmy.gif

...spoken by SM, the bog cleaner who shags the customers' bums for 20p a go!
mortonjag 2007-06-12 09:57:49
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jun 12 2007, 09:47 AM) [snapback]287732[/snapback]
Running my own business thanks very much. Lest you should be suggesting that I was wasting my employers time.

You have started so many threads with the same aim, to undermine everything that Dougie has achieved. I voted for boring and tedious however you didn' t like that poll so you started this thread. You fancy yourself as a wordsmith, look up tedious in the dictionary.

Last word from me on this subject.

I merely asked, in response to your caustic comments!

Good for you-and hopefully it's a respectable business. NOW--IF you've got an ounce of 'business brain', why are you suggesting I'm 'trying to undermine' anything. I've NEVER criticised Shoogly's achievements-only his defects-and if you choose to ignore them, that's fine by me.

I fail to see the point of your penultimate sentence-I understand the meaning of 'tedious' very well, and in your case it means 'something that keeps coming back each time you sweep it under the carpet'.

BTW you HAD your last word!
mortonjag 2007-06-12 10:05:46
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jun 12 2007, 09:47 AM) [snapback]287733[/snapback]
IF a more monotonous person exists. IF he had even more time on his hands than the jag and IF he wanted to dominate the messageboard with repetitive topics, should Mortonjag step aside?

Another thread devoted to this boring old fart!

What have I done to achieve such notoriety-perhaps Mr Trollbuster's right.

Well I'm just off to finish painting some skirting-and incidentally, I fill the cracks and sand down first.

I dislike PAPERING OVER CRACKS as in the 'Youth Policy' statement, and I can no more monopolise this board than anyone who wants to put in his tuppenceworth-MORE than can be said of another Board methinks! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-12 10:08:07
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 12 2007, 10:01 AM) [snapback]287740[/snapback]
I don't go to Glasgow or Braehead either, generally... other than food shopping and newspapers I just order online. Cheaper, and in the words of Elton John on Bo Selecta, "it means I DON'T have to see people I'm DEALING with."

You sound like a troglodite nach0.
mortonjag 2007-06-12 10:10:12
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 12 2007, 09:50 AM) [snapback]287734[/snapback]
It's free if you're male.

So you ripped me off ya wee chancer!
mortonjag 2007-06-12 10:14:12
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 12 2007, 10:09 AM) [snapback]287745[/snapback]
Not really, I just think people mewling about saving the "high street" are wankers, considering most of the shops are pish and the service ranges from good to terrible.

I'm forgetting I can choose the times to shop-yes I agree-I can't abide BUSY shopping Malls and superstores-no doubt this will be misinterpreted, but I'd advise you NEVER to set foot inside the 'Forge' at Parkhead on a Saturday morning!
mortonjag 2007-06-12 10:15:21
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 12 2007, 10:14 AM) [snapback]287749[/snapback]
No danger, it's miles away laugh.gif

as are most of those who occupy it!
mortonjag 2007-06-12 10:45:40
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jun 12 2007, 10:32 AM) [snapback]287755[/snapback]
Dear Dear Dear MJ - what is wrong with you Man - I said that IF this person existed I was sure that we would all listen, how on earth do you get "So you'd knock back" from "we would all listen".

Just talking at cross purposes Mack-I don't regard putting in the same again as a VAST SUM-if it helps, I'm not trying to belittle what's been achieved-but it's there to be seen.

What concerns me is that we may be stagnating-if everybody blindly accepts the status quo in any situation, stagnation is the probable outcome.
mortonjag 2007-06-12 10:48:13
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jun 12 2007, 10:45 AM) [snapback]287761[/snapback]
Without doubt.

An idea may be to set up a MortonJag site where he could post all day to his hearts content and the rest of us could have a well earned break.

Don't feel OBLIGED to read the crap I post Mack-do take a break as often as you can't cope! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-12 10:59:08
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 12 2007, 10:33 AM) [snapback]287757[/snapback]
Been there, done it, will do again
in 5 years time, nightmare that hole

With creat CAUTION Gibby I'll tell you this wee story. One morning I was in the Forge-there's one market stall which does good cheap hardware- and outside there was a trestle table set up and two quite attractive looking girls in green and white hoops were chatting to the shoppers.

Nosey as usual I edged up, and discovered they were collecting for some charitable cause which had been organised by Celtic F.C. I was really just 'chatting them up' but pretended I was interested, as they told me in great detail that Celtic contributed more to charity than any other football club in Scotland.

Rather naughtily I said, 'By the way I'm NOT a Celtic supporter-you could see the immediate response!!! rolleyes.gif

I smiled and said, 'No, I support the Morton'. Do you know something-they DID NOT have a clue what I was talking about. I might have donated something if they had, come to think of it.
mortonjag 2007-06-12 11:09:11
QUOTE(tontastic @ Jun 12 2007, 10:52 AM) [snapback]287763[/snapback]
MJ .. you do my head in. I must think differently from you. I think the fact that Morton just got promoted is a good thing. I think the fact that we have a chairman that subsidises the running of the club is the primary differentiator that makes us what we are, and not just an east stirling, alloa or whoever. I have no obsession with having someone walking in, pushing Dougie out of the way with a couple of million in his sweetie poke for his troubles, and going on to spend pots of cash to restore us to the lofty heights of the SPL. I find your constant negative remarks about the chairman offensive in that they completely discount what he has done for the club. You come across as extremely ungrateful where other fans with some humility accept if we were to weigh up on a grand set of scales whats happened at Cappielow since Dougie took over then the good for Morton side wins by a long shot.

I dread to think what the Morton team/Chariman/Manager would have to do to make you happy, to get you to post forum message after forum message all day every day saying that everything is just great ... or would you turn on Mark Farrell and start complaining about the state of the lines, or the variety of grass. Perhaps Andy Bryants requires some of your attention for not using the correct powder. Now you mention it, those car park attendants aren't half clowns eh? And don't get me started on that traffic attendant who directs you up to the car park.

Now look what you've done. You've made me go of on a "bite" rant. It worked. Well done. Wipe the side of your mouth, you dribbled a bit there.

Oh dear-even Mr Tontastic's upset!

Regarding your highlighted comment-that may well be your opinion. I have consistently acknowledged what HAS been done, and that I am grateful for our having been saved from extinction.

BTW were you addressing yourself in that last sentence-after all Moderators don't post offensively-or am I just falling into the trap of accepting that the establishment must by definition behave beyond reproach?
mortonjag 2007-06-12 12:43:16
QUOTE(Pat SharpTon @ Jun 12 2007, 11:51 AM) [snapback]287783[/snapback]
I think Mortonjag should step aside as I'm getting really bored of wading through his pap to get to decent posts.

Use 'ignore' if you must-or a pair of wellies!
mortonjag 2007-06-12 12:45:28
QUOTE(El gofer @ Jun 12 2007, 11:59 AM) [snapback]287786[/snapback]
If any of you read the article in the Sports section of yesterday's Herald, it was suggesting that the days of an out and out striker seem numbered in modern day football. By out and out striker, which Jag is talking about, it was suggested that Van Nistelrooy, Inzaghi and Kris Boyd would fall into this category. Would you class Thierry Henry as a striker? He seems to score enough goals, but operates in a wider position. I would class Gowzer as a deep lying forward. A similar role that Jamie Stevenson could possibly play next season?

The point being made in the article is that teams like ManU now operate with 2 pivots in centre mid, Hargreaves now signing, and four forwards, non of whom is really an out and out striker. We dont really play with an out and out striker. Although big Sanny could be seen as a target man, the most direct "striker" IS Weatherson, but obviously that is not the way Jim wants us to play.

Hope I made no sense there!

It makes perfect sense to me-'out and out striker' or 'pouncer'-what I've been talking about all along!
mortonjag 2007-06-12 12:46:23
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 12 2007, 12:14 PM) [snapback]287791[/snapback]
I'm gobsmacked!!! I did'nt think you agreed with anything

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mortonjag 2007-06-12 13:13:16
QUOTE(tontastic @ Jun 12 2007, 12:15 PM) [snapback]287792[/snapback]
I did not consider suggesting that you salivate as offensive. Considering some of your posts i trusted that this would fall into the category of "banter".

If i can compare your posts to airplay time on the radio then i'd say that one mellow song (perhaps something by John Denver or Celine Dion) over the course of a day might correspond to the time that you have taken to praise what has been done, and your gratitude from having been saved from extinction. The rest of the day would be filled with thrash rock metal analagous to your niggles, complaints and nonsense. You spend *much* more time complaining than praising. It comes across as very negative. I guess i must do the opposite, i must come across as very positive as an arse licker.

It's meant to come across as 'negative'-and BTW stating that 'I do your head in', is hardly the comment of one engaged in friendly banter.

What do you REALLY object to Mr Tontastic-how many other posters open long running controversial threads on 'General Nonsense', and help to keep the forum alive?

I'd not suggest for one minute you're 'arse licking' since we're informed nobody behind the scenes at Scapa is allowed to read our 'rag', but you're not going to suggest that you'd deliberately want to upset Shoogly et al-are you?

Has is totally escaped your attention that although I may be the most strident, in the recent poll incepted by your goodself, some 30% of posters agreed with my views?

You've chosen to ignore my endorsement of good done in the past-that IS in the past-going on at length might well be construed as arselicking, sycophancy, and endorsement of the status quo.

This debate has arisen out of Douglas Rae's one venture into the public arena since the end of last season. He was criticised-I believe correctly- for lack of a forward looking youth policy, and flying in the face of proven fact not only contradicted that, but himself in the process.

Would you, or any other poster who disputes my assessment, like to give any hard evidence to prove that he does NOT rule with a rod of iron-that all decisions do NOT have to be endorsed by him-that he does NOT interfere in team selections-or that JM is in TOTAL control of signings and tactics.

It seems to me Mr Tontastic, that this issue is more about my DARING to call our Chairman in question, than about anything else. That smacks of censorship to me.
mortonjag 2007-06-12 13:18:21
QUOTE(Toby @ Jun 12 2007, 12:20 PM) [snapback]287793[/snapback]
Could Mortonjag please outline what he think's is going well at Cappielow and could tontastic please tell us his grievances about the club? Just playing devil's advocate.

We have been promoted to Division 1-I acknowledge that as an achievement.

I've no idea what's going on at Cappielow right now Toby-NOBODY tells us anything.

I don't rate JM but am happy to give him another shot. If we get the right players we could be promotion contenders IMHO.

The ground's in good shape.

Guess I'm struggling to say any more, and I ain't usually lost for words.
mortonjag 2007-06-12 16:06:51
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 12 2007, 03:43 PM) [snapback]287834[/snapback]
the man is entitled to his opinions, but it is gettin a bit boring seeing "last post by: mortonjag" on every thread whenever i log in.

i for one (usually) only post when i think i have something of relevance or value to add to the discussion, but i sometimes wonder if our friend MJ sets out to say something in every single topic. mind you, he probably isnt the only person who does this - i just find his posts more annoying that those of some others.

i think he enjoys getting a reaction from people, and is no doubt loving the fact that we now have a thread devoted to slagging him. if this is the case, the best way to stop it would be by not reacting to him and perhaps just to humour him instead (or as he suggested, ignoring him).

Pity you got it wrong this time Greacen-but you're one of the good guys who'll at least give this old fart a decent run for his money.

I do enjoy causing mischief, just as I enjoy catalysing serious debate. I fail to see the need to apologise for spending an hour or so each day at this pursuit when I'm now 'a gentleman of leisure'.

I was equally conscientious throughout my working life, and nobody ever complained!

Mind you, if greenockmorton.net disappeared overnight, it wouldn't leave a huge void in my life, as I have NO VESTED INTEREST in its viability.
mortonjag 2007-06-12 16:08:12
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 12 2007, 02:45 PM) [snapback]287826[/snapback]
No the forum wouldn't be the same without him. I look forward to his use of the vernacular and, dare I say it, even his verbosity. Iam gonna have a counter-amendment to this thread.

SAVE MJ

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mortonjag 2007-06-12 16:10:38
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Jun 12 2007, 02:05 PM) [snapback]287822[/snapback]
Yet another un true statement the interviews for the managers job took place sept/october 2004 Joe left july/august 2005 this is not any second hand info but directly from Joe himself . Joe is working with the same group as he was before he came back to Morton finding scholorships in America for young footballers in this country Marco Maisano is the austraian contact. The Guy who runs the organisation is an american living in Gourock who was also involved as a coach when Joe was youth team manager.

I may have been misinformed-that was the information I was given.
mortonjag 2007-06-12 16:13:25
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 12 2007, 03:04 PM) [snapback]287830[/snapback]
What concerns me is that Douglas Rae defended our youth set-up and said that there was nothing wrong with it.

I would have been less concerned if he acknowledged it isn't what it could be and that at the moment it isn't a priority or they are more focused on x, y or z.

Precisely the point JonaTon, AND precisely the reason for all the current debate about him.
mortonjag 2007-06-12 16:40:30
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jun 12 2007, 02:37 PM) [snapback]287825[/snapback]
I dont for one moment think that Morton fans do not a right to question the Chairman and would agree that on the face of it, the decisions relating to the Youth System seem very short sighted. However, MJ does seem to be way too negative about any decision that the Chairman makes. I for one beleive that most decisions made at Morton over the time the Chairman has been in charge have been made for one reason only - the good of Morton football club. Yes the odd decision has been wrong, yes the odd remark made by the Chairman may have been wrong, but these decisions and remarks have been made because the Chairman (and his board) believed they were the correct decisions to push Morton forward.

Morton fans have every right to make constructive criticisim on the goings on at Morton Football Club, but like any other business the final decision lies with the Boss, and at present that is Douglas Rae. Looking round Scottish football at the moment, I cant see many other Chairmen that I would want in his place. God David Murray has had Rangers put millions into their youth policy (Murray Park etc.) and most of the Rangers fans I know want rid of him (you cant please all the people all of the time).

As I've said - yes Dougie Rae gets it wrong at times (so do we all in our places of work) but at present, as far as I can see, he gets it right more times than he gets it wrong. Also, the fact the both Himself and Arthur Montford are Morton fans has to be a good thing, how many clubs can say that the man at the helm pulling the financial strings truely supports the team and feels every defeat in the same way that the fan on the terracing does.

Nice to see a calm reasonably argued post Mack. I happen to disagree with the highlighted opinion, but that's only my opinion.

Come to think of it, why do people get SO upset about one old man's opinions?
mortonjag 2007-06-12 17:10:18
QUOTE(Zutons @ Jun 12 2007, 04:41 PM) [snapback]287866[/snapback]
For some reason, Any topic Mortonjag starts, I dont read so i couldn't care less TBH

Maybe because you prefer less mentally taxing material?
mortonjag 2007-06-12 17:11:48
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 12 2007, 05:07 PM) [snapback]287877[/snapback]
He should only step aside if that person is prepared to invest more time posting threads . Obviously we would have to know if he was a Morton Supporter and what his long term projections are as we have learned from the past that others use this site for their own ends we don't want to be insulted by a closet OF codger .
That person would have to have a wide vocabulary and would a masters degree in insulting people to fill the void .
DDFR v MJ in sumo suits(martin clark look e likey competation tongue.gif ) first game of the season .

The one and only time I'd not have the last word! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-12 17:18:39
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 12 2007, 05:15 PM) [snapback]287884[/snapback]
Nice piece mate , well written

Indeed , and compulsary homework tonight for certain posters IMHO!
mortonjag 2007-06-12 17:30:19 Forgetting the apparent unfairness of this scheme-what is the money to be used for-'fat cats'-possibly-I really don't know, but the NHS is certainly 'skint'.
mortonjag 2007-06-12 17:32:23
QUOTE(El Duderino @ Jun 12 2007, 05:20 PM) [snapback]287886[/snapback]
An ugly guy walks into his local boozer with a big grin on his face."What are
you so happy about?" Asked the bar-man? "Well, I'll tell you," replies the
ugly man."You know, I live by the railway. Well, on my way home last night,
I noticed a young woman tied to the tracks, like in the movies. I, of
course, went and cut her free and took her back to my place. Anyway, to
cut a long story short, I scored big time! We made mad passionate love all
night long.""Fantastic!" exclaimed the barman. "Was she
pretty?""Dunno'...Never found the head!"

Presumably someone with different tastes got there first.
mortonjag 2007-06-12 17:33:59
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jun 12 2007, 03:53 PM) [snapback]287839[/snapback]
Nope can't, but wouldn't have anyway as have to work later on.

You don't need time off work after a blood donation!!! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-12 17:40:20
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jun 12 2007, 11:25 AM) [snapback]287770[/snapback]
Quite amusing, but fiction. Have you ever heard a 98 year old woman talk? I can't imagine she'd use some of the terms here. Plus I doubt there's many 98 year olds with a mortgage.

Frequently, and as often as not the ones who get to 98 have got another five or six good years left. Some are still as sharp as tacks. I remember one old lady of 102 who still did her Herald crossword every day.
mortonjag 2007-06-12 17:42:15
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jun 12 2007, 11:37 AM) [snapback]287774[/snapback]
Some people come here to read. Unfortunately you post on every single subject. I think you should be limited to 3 posts per day.

Aye right Adolf, and BTW if they come to read, why bother registering in the first place?
mortonjag 2007-06-12 17:50:42
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jun 12 2007, 11:47 AM) [snapback]287782[/snapback]
Congratulations to Jacki.

The chairman looks like a bender in that photo.

6 hours have elapsed, and nobody has whispered a word of criticism of this scurrilous comment.



SHOCKING
mortonjag 2007-06-12 17:54:00
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 12 2007, 05:45 PM) [snapback]287898[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I'm sure he'd take that as a compliment coming from a real afficionado of the game like yourself.

EH-whit gemme Arky-Ahm talkin' HARDware!
mortonjag 2007-06-12 17:56:07
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jun 12 2007, 01:19 PM) [snapback]287814[/snapback]
Pat Keogh signs for Stranraer after his release from Partick Thistle.

He's sh*te.
mortonjag 2007-06-12 18:08:23
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ Jun 12 2007, 05:59 PM) [snapback]287903[/snapback]
THe Scottish Executive ie Salmond and Co have a moral duty to intercede in this.

JB.

It just occurred to me-this is wee Nickerless Surgeon's secret plan to fund the brand new SNHS.

As I stated in a different thread, she claims it will meet demand, and won't depend more heavily on the private sector.

Instead of having the choice of paying out hard earned cash to let somebody move up the queue, in the all new SNHS everybody's a 'private patient'-first it's parking charges at hospitals, next the prescription charges will be up again, road tax will soon be doubled on mobility scooters over 25cc, Zimmers will be subjected to an annual SMOT test, and there will be VAT on incontinence knickers exceeding waist size 38.
mortonjag 2007-06-12 18:14:25
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 12 2007, 06:00 PM) [snapback]287904[/snapback]
So you can use the "go to last post viewed in a thread" function? smile.gif

RLY laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-13 04:19:30
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 12 2007, 08:43 PM) [snapback]287961[/snapback]
and contrariwise smile.gif

unsure.gif dry.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-13 04:22:22
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jun 12 2007, 11:09 PM) [snapback]288042[/snapback]
Oh Jaggy, how you enjoy a bit of mischief making! At least it keeps us occupied over the pre-season even if I don't always/often agree with your opinion, at least it is well-constructed nonsense that you post wink.gif Better than some folk on this board who descend into name-calling when they cannot come up with a substantiated response. Anyway, enough of this rubbish, I'm off to study so I can further myself in your former profession.

Indeed Dino, the life of a rent boy is sadly like that of a football pro-grab it while you can!
mortonjag 2007-06-13 04:27:27
QUOTE(tigerjock @ Jun 13 2007, 12:33 AM) [snapback]288065[/snapback]
if you do as you claim have a young chick at home, i think you need to spend more time punching her keys rather than the ones on your keyboard.......by the way do you prescribe yourself viagra ?

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Depends what you mean by 'young' and 'chick'. As you'll see it's just after 4 a.m., and yet again I've been kicked out of bed with a 'stauner' after six hours on the job. She must get a little sleep before toddling off to earn an honest crust as founder member and M.D. of 'Fitness for the Thirties', which celebrates its second anniversary later this year.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 04:31:25
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 12 2007, 08:43 PM) [snapback]287959[/snapback]
I remain confident that we were tiold we would get 3/4 new signings and in that respect the club has not lied to us yet! As I recall Andy Mclaren kept us waiting until the last moment. Derek Lilley did not appear until early July. McInally's signings have been mostly decent and very good in some cases so lets give him the benefit of the doubt, at least for another couple of weeks.

Most of the SPL will have at least half a dozen fringe players who would do a job in the first. Thats 70/80 players of who how many have been signed by first division clubs? Not many and that does not include returning English exports. There's plenty of time and plenty of players.

AGREED!
mortonjag 2007-06-13 04:38:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2007, 02:09 AM) [snapback]288081[/snapback]
I'm much more concerned about the club's apparently cavalier attitude to dissemination of information to the paying punters.

The above seditious remark was posted by that infamous Cappielow rebel, mortonjag.

He and his little, but growing, band of dissenters are becoming more vocal by the day.

All they do is complain.

Where is the new strip ?

Where are the new signings ?

Where is the news ?

Do they expect DDFR to do everything ?

If there is NO news, how can it be disseminated ?

[b]No news is GOOD news.[/b]

That's seditious in the extreme-six of the best for you!

News of 'No news' is bad news.

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mortonjag 2007-06-13 04:40:36
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Jun 12 2007, 12:26 AM) [snapback]287654[/snapback]
As someone who deals with young people who have been abused in the past I find that very offensive however some might find it funny

I'd suggest you rephrase that, lest anyone gain a false impression of you.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 04:42:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2007, 12:44 AM) [snapback]288067[/snapback]
When will JM lose his 2007/2008 signing virginity ?

Is it fair to say the longer it takes, the less attractive Cappielow becomes on a comparative basis ?

For example, it would seem that McCall has a better story to tell.

Big clean out

Fresh start, etc.

"I built attractive and winning sides at Airdrie and Falkirk and that is my target for Partick Thistle and to do that we need a clear-out."

McCall, who has previously managed Queen of the South and Dundee United, also wants to shake up the First Division club's youth system.

"The club needs a complete overhaul and the youth set-up is something I will be looking at immediately," he added.

and it would apppear that McCall has the authority for the overhaul.

SEDITION
mortonjag 2007-06-13 04:43:08
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 13 2007, 01:56 AM) [snapback]288079[/snapback]
Thistle needed an overhaul though. Before the UEFA Cup final I was talking to a Partick Thistle fan I know - he goes to almost every game and he said unless someone comes in and makes a lot of signings he was sure they would come down.

I'd say we need a few major signings but definitely not an overhaul.

I must confess that as time is going on I'm getting a little concerned about the lack of news.

MORE SEDITION
mortonjag 2007-06-13 04:44:23
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2007, 02:18 AM) [snapback]288083[/snapback]
I'd say we need a few major signings but definitely not an overhaul.
Totally agree, JonaTon.

The Ton is in good shape.

However, it's axiomatic that any club that has won promotion needs to strengthen its squad.

Even a minor signing would be a step in the right direction.

Do you mean MINER signing Newt?

Slim Jim's all we need!
mortonjag 2007-06-13 04:49:19
QUOTE(lush @ Jun 12 2007, 07:54 PM) [snapback]287937[/snapback]
The Cafe looks like a big toilet. I hate it. A lot of the people that go, think they are snobs, the fur coat and nae nickers mob.

Spoken like a lady who knows her furs and knickers eateries! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-13 04:56:27
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 12 2007, 09:28 PM) [snapback]287988[/snapback]
the answer to that question is yes, not just on one thread, but a few. I class scots as a race and i am proud to have had been born here, and that i believe us scots are the best race in the world, simple. I wont even start with my life experience, but along the way i have come to dislike certain aspects of humanity, i have yet to meet someone that i dislike due to the colour of their skin.

Mr Trollbuster's distinctly averse to those with carotenaemia!
mortonjag 2007-06-13 04:59:21
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 12 2007, 10:30 PM) [snapback]288023[/snapback]
Brian I admit its been a while since I worked at the IRH but I had an appointment at day surgery yesterday at 8:00am now when I arrived at the hospital the car park was more than half full, your not going to tell me they were all outpatients and people attending clinics considering most don't start until 9:00am.

The missus WILL be relieved.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 05:01:55
QUOTE(Monkeyking @ Jun 12 2007, 08:13 PM) [snapback]287945[/snapback]
Howdy Folks,

Long time, reader first time poster blah blah blah.

I registered so as I could see the picture some of you guys post in your threads.

I have come close to using the ignore function on a few occasions, for the same 2 tartan terrorists. Now they are REALLY boring!!!

As for the Jag, seems a well meaning, clever sort of guy, lots of valid points on lots of interesting subjects, keen fisherman.

Anyway, toodle pip.

PS. the craic on the old board was much better.

2nd time-f*cked up the first! dry.gif happy.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-13 05:07:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2007, 02:28 AM) [snapback]288084[/snapback]
Kay Nickerless Surgeon, on the new NHS in Scotland.

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OH KAY! wink.gif

Newt- it's almost 24 hours since I posted this, and I've mentioned it on the Inverclyde Hospital Car Park one too, yet NOBODY'S interested.

Are TARTAN TESTES and his merry band still lying pished oot their skulls after the recent election, or do they just

AVOID REAL ISSUES?
mortonjag 2007-06-13 05:12:14
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2007, 02:45 AM) [snapback]288085[/snapback]
Certainly not an order of KFC.

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Jailed songbird Paris Hilton has been urged by PETA to campaign for caged chickens.

The animal-rights group is hoping the heiress will agree to narrate an anti-KFC video which accuses the fast-food restaurant of cruelty to chickens.

They have even written a slogan for her campaign: “KFC — that’s not hot.â€
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=272714

She is a good girl.

Too good for Sick ?

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Two young chicks were refused admission to one of their establishments because they were not accompanied by their mother or feather.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 05:28:23
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Jun 13 2007, 12:46 AM) [snapback]288068[/snapback]
Alright. Does anyone know of any temp (4-6 weeks) positions going locally or in the Glasgow area? Or any companies who take on temp's over the summer?
Just finished a post-grad in secondary teaching and desperately need a job to get me through till August!! sad.gif

How far would you travel, and how little would you acccept?

Serious question BTW.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 05:35:24 [quote name='mortonjag' date='Jun 12 2007, 01:13 PM' post='287810']

Would you, or any other poster who disputes my assessment, like to give any hard evidence to prove that he does NOT rule with a rod of iron-that all decisions do NOT have to be endorsed by him-that he does NOT interfere in team selections-or that JM is in TOTAL control of signings and tactics.

STILL WAITING


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mortonjag 2007-06-13 05:47:25
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2007, 05:39 AM) [snapback]288105[/snapback]
au contraire, mortonjag.

JM is moving "so slowly" that my gut is telling me that there really is something to his modus operandi.

A couple more loan players from the SPL ??

Someone from down south ?

By the way, is there any value in the former Midden striker, Ricky Gillies, who has just returned from New Zealand ?

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Ricky was at school with my older son-I must tell him he's back home. He's an agressive and powerful forward who knows where the goal is-probably a bit similar to Bobby Linn in style, He'll be 31 I imagine, so not yet over the hill.

I'd much rather hear of this experienced midfield motivator TBH.

I've every confidence that Shoogly and JM have plans-I refuse to be critical until all is revealed! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-13 05:52:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2007, 05:44 AM) [snapback]288106[/snapback]
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mortonjag, you know that would never work.

Slim Jim would be playing keepie uppie in the centre circle and would get in the way of DDFR every time he reached for the microphone.

But, a nice fantasy, nonetheless.

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I don't think there's anything unethical about this Newt.

Fate has sometimes strange twists and turns. Just as 'Slim' signed our death warrant in the League Cup Final at Hampden, I sadly signed his death certificate a few years back-LITERALLY less than a mile from the National Stadium.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 05:55:38
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2007, 05:50 AM) [snapback]288109[/snapback]
I refuse to be critical until all is revealed!
Thank goodness for that.

But, you may have to wait quite a while.

mortonjag, if you were ever unfairly critical of the Cappielow regime, I think this board would go into meltdown.

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REGIME

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mortonjag 2007-06-13 06:42:41
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Jun 13 2007, 05:51 AM) [snapback]288110[/snapback]
what should I rephrase it to part of my job deals with young people who have been sexually abused and helping them deal with it.

'have been sexually abused in the past'-ye canny 'have been' in the present or future, so it had the ambiguous slant that YOU might be a naughty person!
mortonjag 2007-06-13 06:52:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2007, 05:56 AM) [snapback]288113[/snapback]
I sadly signed his death certificate a few years back
only the good die young.

Is that why you, I and ....
DDFR are still around ?

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Newts are famous for regeneration
Jags rust in peace
Old confectioners never die, they knock back gobstoppers ad infinitum.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 06:53:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2007, 06:11 AM) [snapback]288117[/snapback]
'Fitness for the Thirties'

the 1930s ?

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mortonjag 2007-06-13 06:55:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2007, 06:01 AM) [snapback]288114[/snapback]
a system of administration ?

would you prefer the "Cappielow Control Clique" ?

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I've always thought the



SHOOGLY SHOW



was quite a winsome description!
mortonjag 2007-06-13 07:11:13
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 13 2007, 06:10 AM) [snapback]288116[/snapback]
What real issues ?

The new SNP government have probably done more in their first 2 weeks than Labour have done in eight years !

And well done to Nicola, giving our nurses their wage rise that the previous government failed to deliver, even though they promised to do so.
And I think it's a fantastic idea to get GP's to work evenings and weekends. A large percentage of workers now work shifts and find it impossible at times to get an appointment with a GP who mostly work 9-5 office hours.
They should be providing a better service to the public for the £90-£100 grand a year they are on !

Indeed, and I'm sure they'll be better equipped than the emergency plumbers who've been doing the job up 'til now-so long as you could stump up the £60 call out charge!!! rolleyes.gif

Those appointments Haggis Heid-what a f*cking shame-patients are now GUARANTEED an appointment within 48 hours-if G.P.'s don't meet the targets for that they don't get paid.

EMERGENCIES are dealt with as they emerge.

G.P.'s do NOT work 9-5 office hours-they never have, and in the more remote areas dear to your wee heilan heart the poor c*nts are still on call 24/7.

Nickerless claims she's going to have a SNHS which will meet demand- but she's already upped the cost by increasing nurses wages.

Furthermore she 'won't increase the use of the private sector'. All good and well, all highly commendable, and all MIGHTILY expensive.

Where, pray, will the money come from?

The truth is she's just a wee idealist lassie on cloud nine-MARK MY WORDS.

mortonjag 2007-06-13 07:15:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2007, 07:00 AM) [snapback]288123[/snapback]
well, with some new blood, we should winsome more.

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mortonjag 2007-06-13 07:21:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2007, 07:11 AM) [snapback]288125[/snapback]
Old confectioners never die, they knock back gobstoppers ad infinitum.

As long as they don't use brilliant blue and quinoline yellow at Fort Matilda.

There was some study at Liverpool University a few years ago.

I would not want any of DDFR's products to have an adverse effect on his central nervous system.

Or anyone else's for that matter.

Oh my God, Newt are the Shooglyphiles overdosing on his Fudgy Wudgys-that may explain the apparent pre senile dementia.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 07:47:44
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 13 2007, 07:36 AM) [snapback]288129[/snapback]
ohmy.gif When I told the missus I had to go back for an op she was raging, she reckons I have a case to claim compensation but tbh I reckon the cause was just unfortunate and is one of those things.

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mortonjag 2007-06-13 07:49:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2007, 07:36 AM) [snapback]288128[/snapback]
Would they be too expensive for Cappielow ?

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Who wants to know? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-13 08:08:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 12 2007, 12:38 PM) [snapback]287798[/snapback]
a poll so that we can almost scientifically measure if other Morton supporters share MJ's opinion.
Gidday tontastic,

I admire your efforts, mate.

Sadly, I am not sure that we are a scientific lot.

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28% agree (26% in the sub poll for what that's worth).

I never ever intended this to be a genuine IN or OUT poll-more I was trying to get folk to think about the issue.

Frankly I'm astonished that so many would happily see Mr Rae's demise as Chairman. He's done a great deal for the club, and I'd love him to be around as long as he's 'spared'.

All I'm asking for is realism and delegation.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 08:36:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2007, 08:00 AM) [snapback]288137[/snapback]
Dr Who

and Who Flung Dung

Who wants to know Watt ?

Watt the Charge would be-has Dougie got AMPle-would it meet with resistance or cause a reVOLT-from what I've Hertz it's quite likely. Maybe if he's off Faraday we could check his current account.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 08:38:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2007, 08:09 AM) [snapback]288139[/snapback]
the Shooglyphiles overdosing on his Fudgy Wudgys

What is the recommended average daily intake ?

Is the alleged "apparent pre senile dementia" caused by exceeding the recommended average ?

Or by something else ?

Are Fudgy Wudgys addictive ?

Well a lot of folk gleefully gobbled down the Fudgy Wudgys about the youth set up! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-13 08:40:22 NewTon, you sound more like that old c*nt Mortonjag every day! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-13 08:50:37
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 13 2007, 07:55 AM) [snapback]288135[/snapback]
my problem has not been caused by the hospital or a doctor but by a dentist, wont go into details but managed to leave a steel plate and a screw sticking out from my gum after extracting a tooth. I'm not in any pain just now but it is very visible and Ive been to told I will need to get the whole plate and the 3 other screws removed. sad.gif

Don't talk to me about those effin tooth mechanics MidTONs-most of them couldn't get into Medicine, opted for second best, and earn in real terms about twice the salarly of G.P.'s

If Skean Dhu Scrotum really wants to get his teeth into a genuine issue-let him have a wee tartan keek at their practices.

Before anybody suggests I'm jealous-I've always regarded it as one of the most boring and potentially disgusting of jobs, which I wouldn't do for all the fudge in Fort Matilda. wink.gif

To Loveless, Street Walker et al-don't bother arguing with Mortonjag.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 09:07:59
QUOTE(thesmithston @ Jun 13 2007, 09:03 AM) [snapback]288151[/snapback]
just over 40years ago the zionists attacked their muslim/christian/jewish/druze arab neighbours in egypt, syria and jordan. they continue their expansionism today with land grabs of the areas under illegal occupation, and still occupy the golan. bankrolled by their client state the usa.

this was in turn almost 20 years since they massacred palestinian villages/ers and displaced the surviving inhabitants. the nakba continues...

dont buy israeli produce......

AND Giffnock.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 09:44:06
QUOTE(thesmithston @ Jun 13 2007, 09:41 AM) [snapback]288160[/snapback]
yes

What's your agenda-Ton supporter, Palestinian National, freedom fighter-you've clearly got a vested interest in your anti Semitism.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 10:13:45
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 13 2007, 09:52 AM) [snapback]288168[/snapback]
(Psst, Mortonjag - Palestinians are Semites too huh.gif)

Well semite me down Micky boy-I was being knotty!
mortonjag 2007-06-13 10:16:51 Not wanting to pour cold water on your zeal, but don't you think Sanny's got an awful big beak?
mortonjag 2007-06-13 10:38:03
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 13 2007, 10:33 AM) [snapback]288188[/snapback]
Would you two like your own area of the forum? rolleyes.gif

Would there be any charge? Would we have to conduct ourselves properly. We might start to feel insulated. Mind you Mr Tontastic would keep his beady ion us!
mortonjag 2007-06-13 10:41:15
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 13 2007, 10:22 AM) [snapback]288184[/snapback]
You crazy kids...

See this pally Stein fing Mick-hoodyu blame? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-13 10:43:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2007, 10:39 AM) [snapback]288190[/snapback]
Gidday Edinton,

I thought we had.

But, other members (even ThornTON) keep butting in.

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When it's plainly none of his business.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 10:45:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2007, 10:43 AM) [snapback]288192[/snapback]
We might start to feel insulated.

mortonjag, are we meant to feel insulted ?

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If they flex their muscles we might be insulated to the core. Wire you asking anyway.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 10:51:56
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 13 2007, 10:48 AM) [snapback]288195[/snapback]
Opus Dei!

Which? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-13 10:54:35
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 13 2007, 10:51 AM) [snapback]288197[/snapback]
C'mon lads, if you must talk bollox to each other at least show some courtesy to the other users and do it on the General Nonsense board. rolleyes.gif

maybe mr edinton could transform the thread-or Mr Tontastic as he solder.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 12:18:01
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 13 2007, 11:45 AM) [snapback]288220[/snapback]
Indeed. The economist had an excellent piece on the six day war two weeks ago. The tone of the article was that the war gave Israel its best chance for a long and stable peace. Instead by annexing the west bank, building settlements, continuing to ocupy the Golan and snaffling all of Jerusalem the Zionists have ensured continuing conflict.
Away wie ye mentaljug, Smithston ain't an anti-semite.

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That was just poetic licence (otherwise known as plain higgorance)-and anyway Sanny's got a big beak, webbed toes, and hails from the Kirk o' the Chaldees.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 12:20:11
QUOTE(franco @ Jun 13 2007, 11:46 AM) [snapback]288222[/snapback]
I'm no lover of what the Israeli's get up to, and while some of what you say is true it doesn't exactly tell the whole story, does it? Why not balance it out by saying why Israel invaded Egypt? I'm sure there are many versions of the story but it seems there was always going to be a fight and the Israeli's decided to throw the first punch.

Let him who is without skin throw the first stone!

No doubt that higgorance will be rectified also.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 12:22:12
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 13 2007, 11:12 AM) [snapback]288205[/snapback]
That depends on the structure of Golden Casket Group and, I have slightly misled you in that, of course, Dougie does not own Morton, his group does. Whether he is obliged to discuss an offer with anyone else depends on the share structures in that group. Given its a largely family company, I would have thought he would mention it to his family and decide from there. There's no obligation to discuss it with any of the other Morton shareholders if they are less than 10% except as a matter of courtesy.

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mortonjag 2007-06-13 12:25:35
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Jun 13 2007, 11:24 AM) [snapback]288212[/snapback]
Mortonjag complains about all things Morton. This will no doubt bring another complaint. rolleyes.gif

laugh.gif no complaints Rossco-I already have my own investments.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 12:31:00
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 13 2007, 11:23 AM) [snapback]288211[/snapback]
I received the GMST Newsletter this morning and was shocked to see we only have 276 members.

For all those who feel that the youth set up needs attention or that our Chairman needs some competition to his rule then can I suggest you join GMST and become part of the Trust that is the second biggest shareholder in Morton.

Time for the likes of Mortonjag and his merry band of boo boys to put their money where their large and often rude mouths are, if they haven't already of course.

www.gmst.org.uk

Merry booing-hmm

A football supporter named Hugh
who'd nothing much better to do,
said, 'Just for a lark
I'll pish on the park
while the rest of you merrily boo.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 12:33:15
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 13 2007, 11:13 AM) [snapback]288206[/snapback]
It may have been started with good intentions Newton, but it did somewhat 'deteriorate' shall we say. rolleyes.gif

Don't get me wrong I write as much bollox in here as most people (though hopefully not nearly as much as you and MJ wink.gif ). But out of repect for those who want to use this Board for Ton matters only and who don't want to wade through crap to get there I keep it to the General Nonsense board. That's after all what it was created for in the first place.

This one's for discussion of Major Disasters I take it.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 12:37:23
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jun 13 2007, 12:07 PM) [snapback]288229[/snapback]
Just read the column there: sensible stuff, especially the bit about not being badgered into signing players for the sake of it. I agree with that because the squad we have at the minute is more than capable of holding its own in the 1st division and if we can strengthen it now then great; but we do not need to overload the squad with panic buys that we are trying to get rid of by January. Also the fact that we looked at Mensing is pleasing because at least we are looking in the right areas.

By the way, with reference to the striker on holiday, anyone know who that might be?! Also, what age is Keiron MacAnespie?!

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mortonjag 2007-06-13 12:45:24
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 13 2007, 11:43 AM) [snapback]288218[/snapback]
Cheers GKR.

I'm sure MJ will be pleased about his special mention. rolleyes.gif

I'm impressed that Shoogly's spoken out in response to our 'rag'-credit where credit's due.

Don't see any mention of my goodself, though he's quite scathing about those who've been critical of the 'lack of signings and ambition'.

I've said repeatedly I'll reserve judgement on the former, while ambition has never been in doubt.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 12:50:07
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 13 2007, 12:33 PM) [snapback]288239[/snapback]
Thats quite good
if you were 10 years old.

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mortonjag 2007-06-13 12:52:40
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jun 13 2007, 12:48 PM) [snapback]288251[/snapback]
mortonjag and newton use MSN for christ's sake! instead of using space that tontastic has to pay for to have conversations.

Mr Tontastic has to pay for our conversations Choccy Boy-goodness-why ever would he do that?
mortonjag 2007-06-13 12:54:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2007, 11:43 AM) [snapback]288219[/snapback]
http://www.gmfc.net/chairman/news-view.asp?id=26

I was disappointed to note from the unofficial message board that the Club was being criticised for lack of effort and lack of ambition because we have not yet made any close season signings.

Isn’t it disappointing to note that the ‘negativity boys’ are at it again?

They are never happier than when they have a good old moan.

Thankfully the majority of our support has greater trust and confidence in the management of our Club than some of the correspondents of the unofficial message board’! Reports have suggested that we have been sitting back and taking it easy. I wish that had been the case. Believe me, the ‘gaffer’ and I have been very very busy talking and sparring with players and their Agents. Understandably players who are out of contract are considering all their options; the majority want to either play in the Premier league in Scotland or for one team or another in England where the wages are much higher then in Scotland.

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Great to see some communication from the Chairman after weeks and weeks.

Someone at Cappielow reads this site.

However, it disappointing that we have missed out, yet again.

4 offers made.

4 offers rejected.

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I seem to remember one or two moans from Mr Morton earlier in the season-complaining about missing players-knotty-missing fans different! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-13 13:02:14
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 13 2007, 12:21 PM) [snapback]288233[/snapback]
I was e-mailed the following on-line petition

http://www.petitiononline.com/June2007/petition-sign.html

I don’t know (or even think) that these types of petitions actually mean much? However, at this moment in time it does seem harsh that people are calling for an investigation into the McCann’s. As you would expect, the woman in particular, looks devastated.

It's pretty innocuous publicity compared to that foisted on us by the child's parents. Funnily enough things seem to have abated a little at the moment-has common sense prevailed, or have they been gagged by those who are attempting to do the job properly. Compare the recent Woolmer case.

For what it's worth HT I deprecate the petition.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 13:11:11
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 13 2007, 12:59 PM) [snapback]288257[/snapback]
You know Jag, the length of time you spend on here coupled with your increasingly Newton-esque ramblings are leading me to have doubts about your state of mind.

I worry about it constantly Boozy-almost as much as I couldn't give a DD about that of the rest of the posters! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-13 13:32:51
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jun 13 2007, 01:26 PM) [snapback]288269[/snapback]
God bless the old lady. A fine leader and a catalyst for positive change in this country.

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Just ask Mr Scargill!
mortonjag 2007-06-13 13:42:57
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 13 2007, 01:30 PM) [snapback]288276[/snapback]
Not sure whether I was one of the merry band of boo boys or not. Looking at the qualifying criteria, I have at times undoubtedly opened my "big mouth" (I'm getting the hang of this Dougie type writing already) about matters concerning our beloved chairman, where I think he has been a walking nightmare from a PR standpoint. My rudeness was generally I thnk directed at those who think he is above reproach, but none of it was truly heartfelt, more a response to the Deity status Dougie sometimes abuses.

Unlike some other posters I have never doubted he has the best interests of the club at heart. If you look at my inputs I have been highly critical of the fact that he can be a walking PR disaster, and has demonstrated this several times this year - to that end, like any official who represents a club he is NOT above criticism, nor should he be allowed to go unchallenged. Couple of examples in the last year ....... he showed a complete lack of respect to John Boag - a great example of his ego getting ahead of appropriate respect for a former Captain and fans favourite. He also, in conjunction with his son, was party to calling this site a "rag" which should be ignored, and yet again despite urging others including the players to avoid the site, feels a duty to take a swing at the "unofficial site" and the "negativity of the boo boys" in his latest article - a negativity which could be mitigated if the club was even half ways competent at communicating properly with the fans - the official website being the most out of date repository for Morton info belies this opportunity. Based on that I feel he should at times be muzzled cos he does more bad than good - especially with his continued digs at this site and its posters - which generates a lot of money for the club I would wager.

It was via this site I learned when the Morton jerseys from last year were on sale and immediatley purchased £600 worth of them, it was via this site that I noticed the fund raiser for the Youth Team and was happy to contribute £100 worth of ticket sales to the cause, it was via this site that I learned of several Spinny fundraisers, where I happily spent hundreds more in the good name of Morton, it was via this site that I learned of the predicament that one of our fellow clubs (Stirling albion) were struggling and made an appropriate donation to give them a dig out.

So did plenty of others, plenty of times.

I remember the Scott days, and my overwhelming lesson from all of that is that the price of freedom is eternal vigilance. You better get used to us being vocal, being inquisitive and being open and honest.

That said though, in response to Real Hoops request, I just paid online to join the Trust - yet another thing this rag has been good for in terms of generating a few worthwhile shillings. So make that 277 of us !!!!!!

TonInDublin

And so say all a few of us!

I commended Shoogly no time ago for responding to criticism. While not taking that away, you've correctly pointed out that, just as in the recent 'Youth Policy' situation, it is effectively only a side swipe at those who have called him in question.

Ultimately all he's said is 'If you criticise my policies, you are WRONG. He claims he has the support and backing of the majority of Ton fans, and indeed he has mine in principle, but he is NOT above reproach.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 13:48:11
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 13 2007, 01:43 PM) [snapback]288292[/snapback]
Would you say the same of her bezzie mate General Pinochet? ohmy.gif

He was a mere amateur compared to Maggie.

Funny thought - why is it all the wee lefties on the board get a suntan when Shoogly ties his laces?
mortonjag 2007-06-13 13:53:01
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 13 2007, 01:37 PM) [snapback]288282[/snapback]
The decision by Richard Lochhead seems sensible to me - in fact very forward thinking. If Ferguson's wouldn't be able to tender due to not having capacity available, it would mean that the ship would probably be built in Poland or somewhere. Taken with the fact that the SFPA have said they don't need another boat, the conclusion is that the contract was intended by Labour to be a bribe. When the review is completed, you may find that the ship is reclassified as a "grey" boat - which basically means fitting a small machine gun in the bow - which allows the contract to be placed with Fergusons rather than having to go through the usual European Journal open tendering process. Thus, the £20 million cost is spent in Scotland rather than abroad, and if the ship is indeed not needed, it shouldn't be getting built anyway.

The unionist elements of the media are trying to spin this one against the SNP, but in fact it's a sensible decision which could save the Scottish taxpayer £20 million.

I can't argue the economics of shipbuilding Alibi, but if wee Nickerless Surgeon believes she's going to fulfil her SNHS promises with only an extra £4 a head for ONE year DDFR should be bankrolling Real Madrid.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 14:11:08
QUOTE(Youngsa @ Jun 13 2007, 01:53 PM) [snapback]288302[/snapback]
Nice to hear from Dougie at last and hope we will see some signings sooner rather than later.

It always worries me however when a chairman starts saying "spending money the club cannot afford".

Although this is in relation to his statement about buying players, should we take it from this that the board of Golden Casket have told him to tighten up the clubs finances?

This may be due in part to lack of league sponsorship but is the running of the club putting a bigger dent in his pocket than he can continue to keep paying? unsure.gif

I imagine he talks to himself quite a lot-others tend to slope off.

I've suggested this several times of late-Dougie's funds are finite, though the group posted a handsome £16 million profit in the last financial year, and were said to be seeking acquisitions.

The problem is not that he doesn't want the best for the club (and himself of course)-he undoubtedly does, but as with any venture of this nature, the 'Honeymoon period' rapidly passes. I believe he's had to take stock and rationalise-to balance ambition for the SPL with how much he's realistically willing and able to shell out. That in itself is entirely reasonable.

What is NOT, is the ongoing public image of a man who claims he knows exactly what he wants and that everything in the garden is rosy. We're not children, and we're just as passionate about the Ton as he is-the TRUTH should be available.

Instead of 'repelling all boarders' of SS Shoogly, he'd get far more respect and credibility if he treated the fans as though they had a grain of intelligence. Girning about 'negativity', and issuing whimsical statements about never selling up under any circumstances seem just a tad selfish.

mortonjag 2007-06-13 14:22:11
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 13 2007, 02:08 PM) [snapback]288309[/snapback]
Now I wonder who that sounds like? rolleyes.gif

I AM PERFECT



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mortonjag 2007-06-13 14:27:54
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 13 2007, 02:17 PM) [snapback]288317[/snapback]
All this from a exDoctor!! The worst people on this earth to keep patients update, don't forget that patients either NHS or private are paying customers!!!

Though I do agree with you that info from GMFC is crap, I thought a rant from an ex doctor about communication to be more laughable

Somebody's knife slipped and the brain transplant went awry.

Untwist yer knickers sean-Doctors are dreadful communicators-prime examples of 'Daddy knows best', and 'need to know basis'.

Now there you go-I've apologised for my profession-ADMITTED A FAULT EVEN!!!

When will Shoogly ever do that? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-13 14:33:38
QUOTE(Magic Mathie @ Jun 13 2007, 02:25 PM) [snapback]288324[/snapback]
If you'd saved up your tuppences then you'd probably have enough to buy Morton 3 times over and could do what you want. biggrin.gif

Just checked the coffers-how much does he want-I hope he takes pre-decimal coinage-aye he will 'cos he's older than me.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 14:38:05
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 13 2007, 02:31 PM) [snapback]288329[/snapback]
I suspect that you are correct.

Yes questions need to be asked but not at this moment.

The righteous tone of the scumbags on the petition shows that most of them are the sort of s***s who would enjoy a good witch burning or public hanging. dry.gif

Given that the McCanns are only guilty of a sin of omission Mr Bam, I agree wholeheartedly.

Looking at the issue totally dispassionately, however, judgement must be reserved in all aspects of the case 'til the truth is out.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 14:41:20
QUOTE(Youngsa @ Jun 13 2007, 02:32 PM) [snapback]288330[/snapback]
I agree that this is an entirely reasonable course to take but I wonder how much this will eventually mirror the Gretna experience.

It should be remembered that while Brooks Mileson was in hospital and his family started running things on his behalf, a fairly sizeable clearout occurred - especially high earners. Gretna still have not submitted detailed plans to the SPL regarding their new/upgraded stadium.

Has this all been down to the family noting that Daddy is pissing their inheritance up against a wall?

Hmm-beautiful turn of phrase, though the new toilets at Scapa are a SLIGHT improvement on their predecessors! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-13 14:51:51
QUOTE(franco @ Jun 13 2007, 02:41 PM) [snapback]288341[/snapback]
think this explains where some of your unreasonable expectations come from. Golden Casket's TURNOVER was £16M last year. Profit was about £1M. They're not a huge company, DDFR isn't wealthy in the way that Brookson is wealthy, although clearly he'll not struggle to buy his next loaf.

Exactly the opposite-I've always pointed out he's no Mileson, and DID mean turnover. Far from diluting my argument in the previous post, your correction adds weight.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 14:54:40
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jun 13 2007, 02:49 PM) [snapback]288344[/snapback]
What do you think?
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Last time I saw Shoogly he was driving a Merc!

NewTon's the big red bus specialist-he may be asleep, but you could always ask!
mortonjag 2007-06-13 15:10:18
QUOTE(WullTon @ Jun 13 2007, 03:00 PM) [snapback]288357[/snapback]
Not sure if it has been posted anywhere else , but Morton are chasing Ex Celtic , Southampton and Leeds left back Stephen Crainey. I'm not sure but I think he also has Scotland caps. IMO would be a great signing.

Good news if true IMO.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 15:18:03
QUOTE(franco @ Jun 13 2007, 03:06 PM) [snapback]288359[/snapback]
Apart from that there was not much to argue about in that post. but like many others you have previously regularly argued that he should just splash the cash - £60K per year on a chief exec, be a benefactor without having any input to the running of the club etc. it sounds like your going soft now and starting to like doogie.

laugh.gif I've NEVER disliked him-he's a nice old man, who can't help his personality, and he's made a success with sweeties.

I've only made the 'splash the cash' suggestions relative to what he's willing and able to 'splash'. If I recall, it's been costing him £300,000 annually to balance the books, so 60k on a succesful director of football would IMHO be money IN the bank.

'Mon Dougie, jist DAE IT!
mortonjag 2007-06-13 15:24:41
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jun 13 2007, 02:55 PM) [snapback]288353[/snapback]
more your area of expertise mj....

Black and white cool.gif

laugh.gif

They were always RED when I was a boy, and had conductresses who said things like 'C'mon-get aff-the bus is startin' tae stope'. Sometimes they were right 'Adolfs' with big chests overlapping the ticket machines, and would gleefully stop a queue in its tracks with three bells for the driver, and 'FULL UP'.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 15:36:10
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 13 2007, 03:30 PM) [snapback]288375[/snapback]
I'm glad we can agree, however I'd suggest that you should go and lick your hero Alec Salmond's Monarchist Ring.

... and your taste buds will be safe in the hands of wee Nickerless's brand spanking all new at no extra cost to the taxpayer SNHS, which will immediately meet your demand for a tongue transplant- no waiting lists under the Nickerless Surgeon!!!!! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-13 15:37:15
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 13 2007, 03:35 PM) [snapback]288377[/snapback]
Then I can only hope that the good lady is buried at sea.

and LCM ain't a latter day JC.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 15:43:05
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 13 2007, 03:35 PM) [snapback]288378[/snapback]
You got any suggestions??

Sadly no Weegie, but we're not necessarily talking a 'known name'-just a good business head who knows something about running a football club, and can look at issues objectively.

Tonsilitis perhaps-he sounds like the kinda guy who can look up from a balance sheet with a big benign grin and say 'Fired'. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-13 15:48:46
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jun 13 2007, 03:39 PM) [snapback]288382[/snapback]
My gran was one of them conductresses..and my papa was her driver...

the 2 of them on the same bus for years...then my gran became ill and my papa was given a single decker on the Leven road and IBM runs.
i used too spend my entire summer holidays on the front seat of that bus. wouldnt get away with that these days.

My first 'dirty' postcard showed a frustrated bus driver leaning over the engine bay of the broken down bus, while the 'dolly bird' conductress stands behind saying 'Do you want a screwdriver'?
mortonjag 2007-06-13 15:52:00
QUOTE(Jackie @ Jun 13 2007, 03:43 PM) [snapback]288387[/snapback]
Dutch police have apparently received a letter telling them where Madeleines body is to be found.

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Leading Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf has received an anonymous letter containing clues regarding the whereabouts of the missing British girl Madeleine McCann. Police are taking the letter very seriously, because it was apparently written by the same person who last year sent a letter providing the exact location of the two murdered Belgian girls Stacey and Nathalie.

Missing since 3 May 2007

The recent letter says Madeleine can be found in Portugal, not far from the hotel room she was abducted from on 3 May this year. It says that she lies buried "north of the road under branches and rocks, around six to seven metres off the road" in a barren and deserted hilly landscape.

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Another Link http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91210-1270362,00.html


Anonymous letter from the same person? dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-13 15:55:09
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 13 2007, 03:42 PM) [snapback]288384[/snapback]
I actually detest Brown more than Thatcher.

CLAYMORE COC K and MJ in unholy alliance on this one! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-13 16:01:14
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 13 2007, 03:40 PM) [snapback]288383[/snapback]
Youse have had it too cushy for too long. Nicola has found youse out laugh.gif

£90k - £100k ? Time to start delivering a service to the public

Most I ever made was 80k, working four thirteen hour overnights -and two half days a week, with a couple of incapacity benefit medicals thrown in.

68 hour week-52 unsociable hours. Mind you it was a cushy wee number-nae big decisions, and you could always bury your mistakes. wink.gif

Who'd be a football pro when you can get that kinda dough-eh? !!
mortonjag 2007-06-13 16:05:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 13 2007, 03:56 PM) [snapback]288401[/snapback]
You only detest Brown more because you are a Tory. I have different reasons ohmy.gif

TOLY or TORY-I'll admit to the first if I really must!
mortonjag 2007-06-13 16:11:21
QUOTE(franco @ Jun 13 2007, 03:51 PM) [snapback]288393[/snapback]
your definately on the happy pills today. anyway, in the spirit of helping the club, if dougie hired a chief exec for £60K, let's say the guy who get's the job has to justify his own salary in the first year. What suggestions are there to achieve that? Open to all to answer.

And yes, if the suggestions are good enough, i'll be knocking on dougie's door asking for a job.

I can't remember turnover figures but percentage wise I seem to recall that a moderate percentage increase in income through prudent use of the commercial side, and sponsorship, and a commensurate cut in expenditure by PRUDENT spending, would redress the deficit. That -without taking into account any increased gate revenues.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 16:13:52
QUOTE(Pat SharpTon @ Jun 13 2007, 04:08 PM) [snapback]288409[/snapback]
I'm sure you can, but even business class pasengers can talk utter bollocks.

and frequently do even without an in flight refreshment.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 16:19:35
QUOTE(edd @ Jun 13 2007, 04:10 PM) [snapback]288410[/snapback]
i really hate what israel's doing in the middle east. everything that i read about what they're up to just makes me sick. i'm not anti-semitic, just anti-zionist (not all jews are zionists and not all zionists are jews).

i mean, what are they up to? they think cos the bible says it's their homeland that gives them the right to claim it as their own? that is the basis of their justification, isn't it? and i can't see how the way they are going about it could be justified by the bible (or any decent morality at that).

Can't help thinking of Holy Bible- Tartan Testes version.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 16:23:28
QUOTE(tigerjock @ Jun 13 2007, 04:16 PM) [snapback]288415[/snapback]
I to have two teenagers who have a certain amount of freedom but they still tell me where they are going, who with and what time they will be back...abroad the restrictions are a bit tighter....but what pisses me off is their performance in front of the media, they were in a chinese school the other day, laughing and joking, posing for the cameras...ffs she will not be in china, she will not be in the vatican....

he stated he would search to the end of the earth for his daughter and all i see is a media circus instigated by the mcanns, posing for cameras, giving interviews while other people are out there doing the ground work looking for this couples daughter...fact is a totally selfish act by these so called parents has gifted their daughter into the hands of child snatcher/molestor/murderer...no one else.... the blame lies squarly on both their shoulders....

The wave of sympathy has clouded to many peoples vision..we have turned into a nation of limp wristed, tree hugging, spineless twats...next thing they will have an agent, if they don't already...appearnces on talk shows, autobiography.... there is something not right with the whole situation...i do not feel comfortable with their version of events

They are in some kind of denial-that's for sure.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 16:28:30
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 13 2007, 04:17 PM) [snapback]288418[/snapback]
Yeah its great to get this kind of news, and as expected there HAS been lots of work going on behind the scenes - I don't know why anyone would think any differently - but looking at the news in the announcement, there may not be much of it that could have been released earlier. . . .

The Nike/Butka situation may be a recent development or couldn't be divulged until contracts were signed, Simon Mensing may have just recently declared his intentions or maybe the club just thought there was no point in telling anyone about that situation, the 'left-sided player' is still under contract and the club again may have purposely chosen to keep that quiet for various reasons, and the striker we're after is on holiday so we can't reach him...so maybe there just wasn't anything to report until now!?

Perhaps messageboards are to blame, would the clamour for information been as great if we did not have such wonders as the Internet??

Nope-the newspapers would make up plenty of stories to keep our tongues wagging, instead of trawling our rags for them.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 16:34:07
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jun 13 2007, 04:18 PM) [snapback]288419[/snapback]
Surely nowadays Football Clubs are run as a Business 1st an foremost, balancing expenditure against predicted income etc. That being the case is it not a very good thing the Our Chairman and his son (also a board Member) who are currently running a very successful confectionary business whilst this market (due to health eating directives) is in the decline are at the helm of Greenock Morton?

It's not a bad thing per se-that doesn't mean it couldn't be much better. It's a bit naive to imagine that Dougie shovels the sugar into his Fudgy Wudgy boilers unsure.gif -delegation is essential for a successful business-yet at Scapa he appears to run around like the proverbial 'blue arsed fly' and to have his nose in every nook and cranny of the organisation.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 17:41:34
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jun 13 2007, 04:47 PM) [snapback]288439[/snapback]
Don't take offence mortonjag but "appears to".

I try to make an active and positive contribution to this board and I don't have any inside knowledge or moles but I am continually wading through threads where members infer that they know more than they do.

Do you know how DDFR runs Morton or is that just an opinion?

It is an opinion based on evidence, and on years of experience in personality assessment. Two days ago I was confronted with a post virtually identical to yours, and I clearly asked for evidence to the contrary.

So far, not one single poster (including those who 'jump down my throat' every time I even mention the Chairman), has produced a shred of fact to counter my assessment. I've met and talked with Mr Rae, and with others who know him well, and of course he's in the public eye at Cappielow and in his 'programme notes'. I said earlier today I DON'T dislike him-he's a nice old man whose heart is undoubtedly in the right place. He cannot alter his personality any more than you or I. It is the knock on effect of that personality which I believe may now be hindering progress.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 17:51:56
QUOTE(franco @ Jun 13 2007, 04:44 PM) [snapback]288438[/snapback]
so can you be more specific. how much could the commercial side improve by and how?
what's the benchmark for sponsorship and how do morton compare to that?
what's imprudent about our spending at the moment and therefore what's the opportunity. i'm assuming the playing staff budget would not be reduced, and that must be the main expenditure?

maybe someone on here knows Davie McKinnon, Dundee's ex Killie Chief Exec - he has in-laws in gourock and is about here now and again. would be good to get the thoughts of a man in the business as to what he would do.

For reasons of confidentiality, I cannot be more specific than this. One of my relatives is in charge of a large organisation with an annual turnover approaching £100 million-he runs the finances-the buck stops at him, and he has to be accountable. He also is a Ton supporter. I showed him the figures which DDFR produced for us some months ago, and he said that in his opinion it would not be too difficult to balance the books. We did not go into detail-suffice to say he is extremely well regarded in his chosen field.

I suspect it will be stated that that's irrelevant to running a football club-NO-football clubs should be run by people who can dispassionately make financial decisions-there's an old medical saying that 'you should never treat your own family' and that holds good for life in general.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 17:55:37
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 13 2007, 05:48 PM) [snapback]288451[/snapback]
When you met him, did you check to see if his heart was in the right place? If not, then this is just another hysterical boo boy post from the Doc based upon your years of medical training.... tongue.gif laugh.gif rolleyes.gif

Read what I said you Ass!
mortonjag 2007-06-13 18:12:06
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 13 2007, 05:50 PM) [snapback]288454[/snapback]
It’s just an opinion and one that he never tires of shoving down our throats.

His stance now is the childish "prove me wrong" attitude.

According to the jealous* Doctor we should now come up with proof that Douglas Rae does NOT rule with a rod of iron and we should all prove to him that McInally is NOT a Puppet.

The audacity of the little man is astonishing and his logic is akin to that of the Witch Hunters of the past who asked their accused to prove you're not a witch by not saving yourself and burning at the stake

Don't quote logic unless you understand its meaning.

I have stated my opinions. Others are under no obligation to view them. Some dislike them. They ACCUSE me of misrepresentation. I ask them to prove the accusation. That is pretty well akin to the procedure in a Scottish court of law-childish-perhaps, Real Hoops, but using the same 'logic' which allows you to suggest I have no right to question Mr Rae, I'd suggest that the established justice system is preferable to YOUR version or a witch hunt.

As to the 'jealousy' bit-I'd hate this to sound uppity, but if another poster's to be believed, my son's wee business is making more profit annually than the Chairman's 'Household Name'.

If I'd wanted to go into banking rather than University, I might very well have changed course and entered business full time. As it is I HAVE experience of running three successful small businesses, and am 'hands on' when my son requests advice with his.

YOU
asked-I merely answered.
mortonjag 2007-06-13 18:14:08
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jun 13 2007, 05:59 PM) [snapback]288463[/snapback]
Oh in that case I bow to your intuition. I thought it was just more of your condescending superior than thow twaddle.

Good
mortonjag 2007-06-13 18:19:57
QUOTE(Benin Dahomey @ Jun 13 2007, 04:43 PM) [snapback]288436[/snapback]
apparently by the same person.

anonymous letter from the same person?
mortonjag 2007-06-13 18:29:52 What are the economic implications of yet another popular (vote catching) move.
I merely ask, as nobody's mentioned what the money was used for, or how the deficit will be made up.

It strikes me that it was going into the educational system one way or another, so if that's to be kept on an even keel-more taxation? I merely pose a question.
mortonjag 2007-06-14 04:21:24
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 13 2007, 08:22 PM) [snapback]288528[/snapback]
He already said just after he was appointed that Summer Football was a thing that'd be a very long time off, if at all, although he liked the idea of it.

Spoken like a true politician-rapid learning curve GS!
mortonjag 2007-06-14 04:26:12
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 13 2007, 07:47 PM) [snapback]288514[/snapback]
That sounds nothing like Ricky Gillies.

That's the way I describe a boy I knew personally Jona-I didn't call him a 'striker' which he's not, and remember that by my geriatric definition an 'attacking midfielder' is an 'inside forward'.
mortonjag 2007-06-14 04:27:42
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jun 13 2007, 10:01 PM) [snapback]288561[/snapback]
Exactly what I was thinking! Ricky Gillies was never a striker! Occasionally played off the front men/man, but was always generally a central midfielder or else he played on the right. A decent straight forward and hard working player; don't think he is the kind of player we should be looking at though. He's not much different to the likes of Millar etc

Very different from Millar Dino-much more direct, far better goalscorer, and not as much intrinsic skill.
mortonjag 2007-06-14 04:28:57
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Jun 13 2007, 11:05 PM) [snapback]288573[/snapback]
I always suspected that you know very little about football. This proves it.

Ask any sane 'Midden fan - "agressive" and "powerful" would definitely not be words they'd use to describe Gillies.

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mortonjag 2007-06-14 04:32:56
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 14 2007, 12:21 AM) [snapback]288587[/snapback]
The whole point is we do and DDFR and other chairman better get used to this sort of thing . Some MP's have their own blogs so I don't see DDFR's complaint .
He should be asking why the club do not utilise this form of media to a greater advantage .
It is another convincing testament to his strained relationship with some supporters . I would have thought after winning the title that the tension would have disapated but I was wrong .
So on one hand its get those season books paid for and the next its those grumbling keyboard anarchists are at it again .
To me he is contradicting himself he wants those avid fans to pay their money in good faith yet for daring to ask questions you become a deranged fanatic .

....and are opposed by 70% of your fellow posters! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-14 04:44:36
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 14 2007, 12:25 AM) [snapback]288588[/snapback]
Another ageist insult. Racism and sectarianism are taboo but sexism and ageism seem to be dinky doo with the board's administrators. You can't say black/white/yellow b*****d but you can say old b*****d. f*** me you can't even say b*****d never mind f***. What about all the ageist stereotyping? If you're older than 18 some folk on this board accuse you of senility. And sexism, well I ask you. You can call a woman a hoor, a ride, a dyke or even a shagbag but you can't call a nancy boy a p oof. Put an end to it I say. This is surely a dignity 'on board' issue.

Shocked, Appalled and Astonished,
Greenock.
PS Can anyone tell me where I left my colostomy bag?

Tonsilitis stole it-starvin' again the poor soul, and he says I talk keech!
mortonjag 2007-06-14 04:58:08
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jun 13 2007, 06:29 PM) [snapback]288480[/snapback]
No one has said that you can't question DDFR. No one has said that you can't state your opinion. You do however like to dress up your opinion with a thin veil of obscure but confidential references that you seem to think give credence to your opinion with out actually stating known facts.

I think you would find in a court of law that if you made allegations against someone then you would be required to produce evidence to support your allegations not fall back on "It is an opinion based on evidence, and on years of experience in personality assessment". Where is the evidence ?

p.s. how does one quote logic? I have always perceived logic as principles of reasoning.

end of rant for today. 200 miles to drive and its chucking it down.

catch you later mortonjag wink.gif

Allegations have been made about me by other posters-I have merely stated my opinions. You seem to be implying I've been telling 'porkies' to beef those up-fair enough-what I said IS, however, FACT.

Another FACT is that every time I profer an opinion about Shoogly I am attacked from various sides-sometimes in fun, sometimes seriously-often in apparent righteous indignation.

FACT-I've given my detractors the opportunity to produce evidence to counter my opinions-none has been forthcoming.

YOU mentioned 'logic' -'quoting' my 'lack of it'-I was not defining logic, merely quoting comment about 'illogical' opinions.
mortonjag 2007-06-14 05:10:05
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 13 2007, 06:37 PM) [snapback]288483[/snapback]
That is an incredibly badly structured paragraph. Do try again; however before you do, I'll take this chance to say that you again show the utmost hypocrisy. You have yet to prove to anyone that you know that Douglas Rae rules with a rod of iron.

Supposition and ill thought out rhetoric from a GP- surely not!! rolleyes.gif
laugh.gif Oh that is priceless. You've just shown classic jealousy traits there.
You really have let your guard down in this post.

Giraffe's baws RH-deliberately spelled out so that the common 5/8 like yourself might have a half chance of understanding me for once.

Hypocrisy-nope-I am not required to prove my opinions, and if other posters are merely voicing opinions about mine-fair dos.

What ACTUALLY happens 90% of the time is, RH, that I post an opinion, and it is countered, either by abuse, attempted ridicule, or denial.

I'm frequently told that what I simply suggest MAY be happening, is 'rubbish', 'nonsense', 'twaddle', and so on. Very few acknowledge my opinion while giving an equally valid opposite.

It is to the former that I issued an entirely reasonable challenge to produce evidence to counter my opinions. The silence has been deafening.

As for the 'jealousy' comment-I take it that's your opinion, if not simply a poor attempt at 'wind up'.

If it's not an opinion mind you, will you please produce FACTS to substantiate it.

Unlike Shoogly, I've chosen to keep my private affairs a private matter-should I choose otherwise, you'll see just how ignorant and silly that allegation is.
mortonjag 2007-06-14 06:03:03
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 13 2007, 06:50 PM) [snapback]288485[/snapback]
That, MJ is total keech and you know it! I speak as one who has a lot of experience of running businesses large (£76m 1400 employees) and small and advising on a 'company doctor' basis many others. The facts are that running a small business such as roughly £1.2m turnover Morton is significantly different from running a £100m established business..

I just checked Tonsilitis-the organisation run by my relative is about to invest > £300 million over the next three years. Not only is he ultimately in total command of that-he's a lifelong Ton supporter who attends every match, home and away, is a member of the Trust, and is VERY interested in the way things run.

My experience is different. I'm Company Secretary of a relatively small recruitment firm which was set up two and a half years ago. Our audited accounts for the last year show net profits of just over £ 1 million, and turnover is up yet again by some 50% in the last six months. I have previous hands on experience of running three small businesses-albeit one of those was a Medical Practice.

Posters accuse me of trouble making and jealousy-they're just not in the equation. P.m. if you think I'm 'at it'!


When Shoogly published those figures (hoping to show the fans that it's tough at the top) we had a good look at them. We discussed several areas at GMFC where we believed, and believe that income could be generated and outgoings reduced.

At the time the scenario was that of a relatively underperforming division 2 club, so promotion was obviously paramount. Having got that (albeit by the skin of our teeth) we believe that the future at Cappielow is not inevitably gloomy. We acknowledge the input by Mr Rae in terms of cash and effort-he has, by relative standards done well, but he APPEARS unwilling to delegate, or to entertain the idea of outsider investment in the club. We believe that is hampering progress-it's as simple as that.

I have absolutely no personal issue with the Chairman and wish him well.
mortonjag 2007-06-14 06:13:51
QUOTE(Benin Dahomey @ Jun 13 2007, 06:45 PM) [snapback]288484[/snapback]
do you know what the word apparently means?

both letters are apparently from the same anonymous writer.

RLY! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-14 06:15:51
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 13 2007, 06:58 PM) [snapback]288487[/snapback]
It'll be handwriting or grammar analysis, not a printed surname and signature tongue.gif

....possibly a computer generated analysis of input from 563.270 sources!
mortonjag 2007-06-14 06:19:16
QUOTE(Benin Dahomey @ Jun 13 2007, 09:05 PM) [snapback]288547[/snapback]
for those of you who are interested in this sort of thing, the fossil of a previously unknown species of dinosaur was discovered in china. the dinosaur is described as being a chicken the size of a T-Rex, and may not have been fully grown.

giant chicken/dinosaur

We've had our share of fossilised big chickens at scapa.
mortonjag 2007-06-14 06:23:48
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 13 2007, 09:27 PM) [snapback]288553[/snapback]
What a start to the new SNP government ! Within 2/3 weeks of being in government they have abolished bridge tolls, reversed the decision to close hospitals and scrapped the graduate endowment !! Phew...

Have I missed anything else ?

AYE CLAYMORE CO CK, how are they going to finance all those popular measures-- with f*ckin'


MONOPOLY BOARD MONEY

or just bang up taxes as is patently inevitable.
mortonjag 2007-06-14 07:30:43 Made the virgin non-stop transatlantic aerial flight 88 years ago today. I can't even tell you that without censorship, while the Caravan Club celebrates a century of needless road blocks!

It might have been different if I'd asked-'Who were all co*k and brown'?-answer-carefully chosen-Ayrshire Bulls!

Anyway-'Happy Birthday' to Magic Mathie, Sarah W, Steffi Graf, and (Boy) George O'Dowd-in no particular order of merit!
mortonjag 2007-06-14 07:47:33
QUOTE(tigerjock @ Jun 14 2007, 12:52 AM) [snapback]288593[/snapback]
Hiring a manager...interviewing prospective candidates....my contempt for this so called father is growing by the day.

I'm now signing the petition

Full credit for having the courage of your convictions.

It's ALMOST unthinkable that there could have actually been parental involvement-but closed minds always hamper good detective work.

What strikes me is that Mr McCann is a consultant Cardiac surgeon. It's a fact of life that when hospital consultants are absent from work, their waiting lists mushroom. Competent Locums are not always available 'at the drop of a hat'.

Most people awaiting cardiac surgery have no choice-their lives depend on successful surgey, and many sadly die before they ever reach the operating table.

The possible implications of Mr McCann's self imposed absence are there for all to see.
mortonjag 2007-06-14 08:03:07
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 14 2007, 07:56 AM) [snapback]288620[/snapback]
Goede morgen WDE, hoe gaat het?

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Is this Bu*mer's cider not drunk liberally and expensively by Les Pouffes du Cafe, where the maitre d'Hotel is affectionately known as the'heid Bummer'?
mortonjag 2007-06-14 08:07:38
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 14 2007, 08:05 AM) [snapback]288622[/snapback]
WDE, I think MJ just called you a poo f! ohmy.gif

Moi?
mortonjag 2007-06-14 09:11:34
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jun 14 2007, 09:03 AM) [snapback]288624[/snapback]
Anyone else be watchin the golf this week.

Ive got a couple o quid on Pardaig (sp) Harrington to win. Should be good, pity ive gotta work though and will only see it at certain times sad.gif

I like the crazy golf on the Esplanade at Largs-my handicap's usually sticky hands off a Nardini's cone-when I'm feeling more serious a good game of putting's hard to whack on a nice day-a bit like playing bowls with a stick-real golf's for escapist pouffes and wimmen-a completely pointlessly self indulgent pastime unlike my hobbies. The walking's good exercise but the effect of the stress and the driving ambition of 'serious' players does more harm than the former's good.

I once knew a professional golfer's daughter-she seemed perfectly normal, and we used to play together-sometimes at rounders, but not always.
mortonjag 2007-06-14 10:25:52
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 14 2007, 09:50 AM) [snapback]288634[/snapback]
I don't disagree that there are steps which could be taken to reduce and even turn around Morton's losses. Your previous post implied that you had shown your relative figures produced by Dougie, I presume at the Town Hall last year and that, based on those, he had pronounced that it would be simple to turn around. The point I was making was that it is not possible to draw any such conclusion based on a such a cursory examination. If you have been into it in more depth, I would be interested in your proposed measures to turn things around.

The question of addressing our losses is a very pertinent one and worthy of a thread in its own right.
PS I have'nt got Dave's colostomy bag and I resent the implication that I do....I have my own suppliers thanks wink.gif

Hope they don't go 'bust' or you'll be up proverbial 's*** creek' without a paddle! unsure.gif

We are really not arguing about the issue then. I'll call my relative 'SC'-he simply looked with me at the rather simplified data Dougie published in the programme notes. What's he's very good at is homing in on target areas-just like all good accountants should, and dealing pretty ruthlessly with wastage. I'm probably more visionary-tend to have quite a good eye for a market-and TBH we were 'playing games', but the SERIOUS conclusion was that the TON's definitely a viable SPL proposition.

We see DDFR reluctant to delegate-I believe some may regard that as an understatement- and I'm strongly of the opinion that's detrimental to progress. How much say does his son have, for instance, in the ACTUAL running of the club-and he IS a director? Arthur Montford comes over as the benign figurehead, but appears relatively disinterested, and what about the accountant-is his function merely to post off returns to the Excise, and Revenue???

The other issue is the'Not for sale' one. When Shoogly first came out with that-the time of the Gordon Ramsay rumour-I remember thinking-'Good on you'. After painfully struggling towards promotion, I thought his comments to the press prior to the Raith game were indicative of a man with single minded vision, and huge blinkers.

I very strongly suspect we are already actively hampered by budget limitations-we certainly haven't yet set the heather on fire-oh for a Mileson who'd let others spend for him-as we ARE viable, and potentially profitable IMO.

So there it is-I don't apologise for using emotive expressions like the Shoogly Show. It appears the Shoogly Show's in town, and Ton fans can like it or lump it.
mortonjag 2007-06-14 10:28:43
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jun 14 2007, 09:43 AM) [snapback]288632[/snapback]
Good Morning MJ - I see your still at it.

Your last post said a lot to me - in your opinion, it APPEARS that there could be more delegation at Cappielow. It APPEARS that we could be making more money, It APPEARS that etc etc etc. YOU DONT KNOW.

Fair enough, thats you opinion and you are entitled to it. We all know that now, we've all got it loud & clear - please move on.

Yet again, I challenge you and any others who are 'in the know' to produce evidence which will allow me to alter my opinions. Until you do, MINE are valid, and I won't be'moving on', Officer! ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-14 10:57:33
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 14 2007, 10:53 AM) [snapback]288663[/snapback]
Lion eventually! An Eagle could not do enough damage to kill a Lion.

It's a 'no contest', but in theory a golden eagle or any large bird of prey has a huge advantage over a ground based animal-no matter how swift and agile. A golden eagle's talons are more than capable of inflicting fatal damage to a beast the size of a lion.
mortonjag 2007-06-14 11:22:30
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jun 14 2007, 11:11 AM) [snapback]288674[/snapback]
in that case id like the eagle to win... a kind of natures version of the Punisher tongue.gif

Which part of the Lion will he devour first?
mortonjag 2007-06-14 11:25:47
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jun 14 2007, 11:13 AM) [snapback]288675[/snapback]
yeah i ended up putting a couple of quid on both harrington and garcia. Means if they come in the top 4 ill get some money back and with them haveing pretty decent odds at 25-1 and 33-1 any money back from them will be much welcomed

Strangely enough those are the two my missus is betting on-I'm not into golf at all, and confess to finding it extremely boring on Telly, but she's been to several tournaments and says it's totally different when you're actually there.
mortonjag 2007-06-14 11:34:26
QUOTE(sammy1874 @ Jun 14 2007, 11:21 AM) [snapback]288677[/snapback]
MortonJag not a dig at you or having a go in any way. But you say you have a experience with running business's in the past and your relative is in charge of his business at the moment. You also say that DDFR has said the club is not for sale but are you only taking this from the Ramsey story or have you put together a bid for the club and asked DDFR. If not why not ? you obviously think you can do a better job than DDFR. Once again not having a dig just curious to know

I suspected I'd be asked that-and I don't think you're 'havin' a go'-which makes a pleasant change!

Most posters seem to have missed it, but DDFR was interviewed by the press for an article they published on the morning of our away game at Kircaldy-which of course we were expected to win or draw for promotion.

He went into some detail, and stated that he'd had two or three 'million plus' offers for the club, adding that 'As long as there's a breath in my body, Greenock Morton is not for sale'. I took that to be serious, and don't doubt that he still thinks that way.

Given that Dougie's a businessman and Ton fan, and I'm the same, I'd imagine I could possibly do as well as he's done but wouldn't dream of trying my hand in an area where I've no experience.

If I was mega rich, I'd love to do a Mileson, mind you-just bankroll the club, and pay experienced folk to do what they are best at.

mortonjag 2007-06-14 11:50:50
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 14 2007, 11:26 AM) [snapback]288681[/snapback]
If you're so keen on evidence then produce some of your own to prove to us that your are right.

Oh I forgot,
mellow.gif that is quite an astounding display of arrogance ,...... again.



What's the point in saying that? We were top of the league from August till we won it with 4 games to play, hardly what anyone with any football knowledge would call "by the skin of our teeth" is it?. Your bitter and twisted agenda shines through again.

I stand by my conclusion and strong opinion that you are jealous of Dougie's success.

Prove me wrong rolleyes.gif

I've told you before I'm not arrogant-I just happen to know everything. wub.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-14 12:04:42
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jun 14 2007, 11:39 AM) [snapback]288692[/snapback]
Thats the whole point MJ - I and others dont pontificate about what is wrong and how it can be fixed because we DONT know the exact budgets etc. But you continually make claims that you cannot back up, then when the likes of me question those claims (no delegation, no input from Crawford Rae etc.), we are supposed to disprove your claims. As I have said, you guess at what the problems are and then claim you have the wonderfull business knowledge to put them to rights. On you above comment, when have I ever claimed to be 'in the know', I think you will find that that is your department, and the bottom line appears to be that you have absolutely no idea about how Dougie Rae and the board run Greenock Morton FC. You like everyone else has seem very limited finiancial details released by the Chairman re: the cost of running the club, that's it. You appear to know nothing else about the day to day running of Greenock Morton FC, its all if and buts. And if IF's and Buts were candy and nuts we would all have a wonderfull Christmas.

Please for the love of the good Lord either give it a rest or get your wonderfull financial knowledge into gear along with your wealth business man friends and make a bid for Morton and let us know what happens. I am quite sure you love the club as much as me and everyone else who posts on this site, but your constant guess work related to the finances and the day to day running of the club is not helping anyone. Yes you have made the odd valid comment and yes it is good to question the direction the club is going in, but please dont pontificate about things that you know little or nothing about.


Are you a lay preacher? rolleyes.gif

You say I AM PONTIFICATING, as you blithely speak for all and sundry and TELL me what I should and shouldn't say or do!

I do love the club, and have already answered a non-loaded question about what I'd like to do IF I could.

I have NEVER at any time professed inside knowledge-whether or not I have a little, much, or none, I've NEVER stated my opinions were based on that.

I have clearly spelled out on each occasion I've posted on this topic that those are opinions based on the same evidence which is available to any Ton fan who cares to open his eyes.

That is ALL.

What's all this crap about my making claims-are you stupid-if I were making inaccurate claims Shoogly would be perfectly entitled to sue me.

OPINION Sir-like in Editorials and things-get it, and when people with an axe to grind try to muffle those, it's described as gagging the press. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-14 12:13:09
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 14 2007, 11:36 AM) [snapback]288690[/snapback]
Damn, my bets were on sick_mick being his missus. They act like a long married couple anyway rolleyes.gif

Sick is just that wee arsehole who ripped me off for 20p in the men's bog, and then proudly announced the others get it for free.

AND BTW gentlemen-he's not that good! sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-14 12:14:32
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 14 2007, 11:37 AM) [snapback]288691[/snapback]
What if it was a Dubya Eagle

Flying a fighter jet?
mortonjag 2007-06-14 12:16:31
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 14 2007, 12:02 PM) [snapback]288703[/snapback]
"Victim status and paranoia"? Try mild irritation - I can't voice an opinion on anything without some brainless self-righteous t*** going: "YOU LOVE THE IRA!"

Anyway, what flip flop view on the Army? Obviously there are elements of it I don't like, namely fanatics, but for the most part it's full of ordinary men working a job just as you or I would.

AND ordinary women? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-14 12:40:25
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 14 2007, 12:20 PM) [snapback]288715[/snapback]
In the 60s the joke was "who were the first poofs to fly the Atlantic?".

When 'gay' meant bright and cheerful, 'bent' meant 'curved', 'homo' was the 'it' word, and 'pouffe' was in its infancy.

In those days folk worried about getting 'VD' if they didn't wear an 'FL', and AIDS hadn't even been dreamed of.
mortonjag 2007-06-14 12:45:38
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 14 2007, 12:25 PM) [snapback]288717[/snapback]
No it's not.

Clear to see that those now in power are simply far more intelligent than the last lot. They have more ability and are doing things better. The longer it goes on, the more people will realise what a bunch of incompetents the Labour lot, aided and abetted by the Lib Dems, were. They will possibly never recover. Be interesting to see what the opinion polls are saying now - I'd reckon the SNP support will have increased since May 3rd. Maybe that's why no polls have been published.....

All I'm suggesting Alibi is that during the 'Honeymoon period', it's rather naive of CLAYMORE CO CK to be boasting of huge achievenent when the true cost of any such measures is not yet known, and WILL have to be met.

I detest all politicians-plain and simple-I'm happy enough to give Bawheid and Nickerless a wee shot-they'll probably do no worse, but bills ultimately have to be paid.
mortonjag 2007-06-14 13:08:30
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jun 14 2007, 12:37 PM) [snapback]288726[/snapback]
MJ, I take your point that you have not actaually made "claims" as you are usually careful enough (unlike me) to add the likes of "appears" or "I think" etc before your guesses as to how Mr Rae & the board run the club, therefore a apologise for that comment.

But your comments (rather than claims wink.gif ) as you have said, are based on the little financial information available to all Ton fans and are therefore guess work. So again, why go on and on about how something can be fixed whan as you have admitted, you dont even know that it is broken (outwith the Youth System). You dont know that there is a problem with delegation, you dont know that Crawford is not involved enough, you dont know that Mr Rae "runs about like a blue arsed fly". So as I and many others have said - your points/guesses (that you have a right to make) have been read and noted - move on sir.

Morton have come a long long way in the past few years under the current leadership and they certainly deserve to have a shot at the 1st division and my point is that constantly commenting on what might be wrong with the clubs finances do nothing to help the club or the supporters who read and contribute to this board.

Who would you like to see Morton Sign
Would you like Hoope or Stripes for the new kit
Is McGurn good enough for the 1st Division
Where do you think we will finish in the league
(Just a personal point here, but why must you refer to Mr Rae as Old Shoogly)

What would you prefer me to call you him?

Somebody else actually coined the term 'Auld Shoogly'- it may have been Narky-I'm not sure-it's a play on Dougie-Shug-Shoogie- and obviously a slightly mischievous allusion to his advancing years. I think it's actually quite endearing-I certainly don't mean it offensively!

Your questions

1/ Tell me how much is in the kitty first-we desperately need an experienced motivator-ideally in midfield-THAT'S the priority.

2/ Hoops

3/ Yes

4/ Can't possibly guess 'til I see the strength of the 'new' squad.

Thanks for addressing the topic in a civilised way. I just can't for the life of me understand why you say, 'Your points have been noted-move on' though.

Not everybody disagrees with me, and I've had regular p.m.s from folk who are a bit closer to the club than I, and feel they can't say so much, but who still endorse my views. When I state I NEVER present my opinions on the basis of inside knowledge, that does not by definition equate to my having none.

Some things are obvious-I've watched Mr Rae's performances on the park, in Hospitality, and prior to each game at Scapa when he toddles out with his tray of sweeties for the disabled fans. I've seen the body language of those he employs. I've regularly had a chuckle at his programme notes, and we've already discussed the 'So long as there's a breath' type of attitude.

Perhaps most significantly of all I HAVE STILL to hear any factual comment from Shoogly's admirers which forces me to change my sincerely held opinions. Each time I make a comment, somebody has a 'go', and I'm sorry, but I'm just one of those guys who always has to have the last word. Seems they're pretty harmful creatures-eh? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-14 13:26:46 unsure.gif
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 14 2007, 12:50 PM) [snapback]288734[/snapback]
It's my opinion, based on over 200 posts, that Mortonjag insults Douglas Rae because of a lack of respect/ grievance/ jealousy/ contempt.

Pick one.(or two or more)

Respect must be earned-I respect him as a fellow human.

He's done nothing to make me feel aggrieved-pissed off aye-but GRIEVANCE-naw!

Haven't a clue what I'm to be jealous of. He's older than me, may be more, or less wealthy, runs a small confectionery business, and is Chairman of a football club. I'm perfectly content with my lot-I've never been a jealous person, and have always admired success.

Contempt-never-pity that he's a slave to his personality perhaps, but NEVER contempt.

Now to lighten things up-how would you like me to address him?

With apologies to Crawford.


Our Father who art in Fort Matilda
Douglas-be thy name
Thy kingdom come
Thy will be done at Scapa, as at Golden Casket.
Give us this day some signing news, and forgive us our impatience,
As we forgive your silence,
and lead us not into division2
but deliver us to the SPL
For thine is the stadium, the squad, and the money
for ever and ever.

AMEN unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-14 14:38:57
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 14 2007, 02:12 PM) [snapback]288769[/snapback]
Seriously? blink.gif

Check back on his posts to Newton, he was up at 4.30 this morning thinking that up.

Its very sad and the guy is quite pathetic.

Would that happen to be opinion or claim-based on inside knowledge or speculative-doesn't really take a man of my talent long to put finger to keyboard Hoops, and like another half mad manic depressive genius Winston Churchill, I need very little sleep.

Now what's the beef? Who stole yer scone? You don't like MJ-put him on ignore-simple-cop out aye- but simple.

You once were described as Vialli
with 'seven' displayed on your front.
I'd honestly like to be pally-
but you're just a bad tempered c*nt.
mortonjag 2007-06-14 19:49:11
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 14 2007, 05:36 PM) [snapback]288840[/snapback]
I have never accused DDFR of being senile , forgetful or hes due to wander because of his age . I merely highlighted to those who think he is without fault .
I'm sure he was only too aware we were beaten by Brechin in the CIS cup but it was an oversight in the editing .
He mentioned about the critics first but as he said there are only a few so why didn't he issue all the club business before having a go at this small section of supporters .
It seems he is more concerned with out spoken comments on this message board than he is about the state of play with new signings , the new kit .

You should put in a word with MJ to get a walking frame from Ziggy's Zimmers , silly old codger laugh.gif

Nice of you to put in a plug for the Company chrissiboi-the 2008 model which goes on show later this year at the annual Gerry Fitt memorial show boasts an all new rain sensing cataract scraper, wider wheels and tyres, and a self emptying incontinence channel which adjusts automatically for pressure and viscosity. The company has plans to expand into Europe next year with a left hand drive version, aptly named Der Shooglyzimmer, because of the inbuilt prostatic vibromassaging equipment.
mortonjag 2007-06-14 19:53:58
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jun 14 2007, 11:48 AM) [snapback]288695[/snapback]
You are a trouble maker. I said that the chairman looks like a bender IN THAT PHOTO not that he always looks like one ; I'm sure Mr Rae would agree and if he chose to do so is welcome to browse through my travelblog and find photo's of me where I don't look too clever and he is welcome to tell me so.

By the way , I have no problem with people looking gay , or gay people in general , but I'm not gay and neither is Mr Rae , I don't think.

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mortonjag 2007-06-14 20:06:21
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 14 2007, 05:12 PM) [snapback]288830[/snapback]
We can go for as many of these guys as we like but if we can't match their wages at least , we'll not get their signature .
Without being to critical obviously DDFR must know the budget so he must be aware of these players wage demands from their agents , before they come face to face .
Perhaps the wage difference between our present squad and those DDFR is trying to sign is to great .
Who knows he may reflect on the advantages of a youth system as a long term strategy .

I think the sad reality is dawning. Had we got that double promotion to the first division three seasons ago , Mr Rae could have been arguably a million quid or more in pocket right now. As it stands, he's had to keep baling us out, and been getting much less money through the gates into the bargain.

I know it's easy to be wise after the fact, but I firmly believe that a lesson must be learned NOW.

If the money's not available for players like Sutton-fair enough-look at what Clyde managed to cobble together from nothing a couple of seasons ago. The first division is NOT Serie A-much can be achieved from little, if a Board and management makes the best of a relatively bad lot instead of the worst of a relatively good one!
mortonjag 2007-06-14 20:10:24
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 14 2007, 07:51 PM) [snapback]288899[/snapback]
edited due to 2nd thoughts

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mortonjag 2007-06-14 20:15:24
QUOTE(Laura_w @ Jun 14 2007, 08:09 PM) [snapback]288909[/snapback]
was speaking to a pal of Danielle's and they've called her Ellie Lee Millar. She was 7 pounds 2. Congratulations to them both!

Nice one-my daughter's name is Ellie.

Congratulations to Midge and Co, AND to GMFC.net.

More of this and somebody will hit on the idea of using the site to make money! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-14 20:20:41
QUOTE(Magic Mathie @ Jun 14 2007, 06:08 PM) [snapback]288850[/snapback]
Cheers MJ!

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mortonjag 2007-06-14 20:24:31
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Jun 14 2007, 07:39 PM) [snapback]288888[/snapback]
The eagle - he pecks out the lion's eyes, and waits for the lion to die of starvation.

An eagle instinctively uses its talons as do all birds of prey-just ask anyone who's tried to give a Nun a fly peck!
mortonjag 2007-06-14 20:32:58
QUOTE(SJ76 @ Jun 14 2007, 07:39 PM) [snapback]288889[/snapback]
Currently selling my house and the solicitor has alerted me to a clause inserted into the deeds by the builder which states I need their permission for the conservatory that I put up in 2005. All relevant planning and building regulations were adhered to when the conservatory was built.

The solicitor has told me that I need to seek retrospective permission from the builder before the sale can go through and that I will have to pay them a fee! Now the house is over 15 years old and I have no idea why the builder would be interested in my conservatory, or is this just a tidy little scam by the builders to coin it in for years to come, apparently the clasue even applies to garden sheds!!

Any experts out there tell me how I can avoid this fee???

Any help much appreciated!

I'd humbly suggest that the planning and building regulations were not adhered to, through no fault of your own. You got consent for the structure from the statutary bodies. I doubt if a potential purchaser will give a toss about what appears to be a pretty redundant clause fifteen years down the line.

Ultimately the solicitor must act in accordance with your instructions-tell him that if it's that bloody important he can sue the planning/building authorities for f*cking up, and you can BOTH make a skin! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-14 20:36:44
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 14 2007, 08:33 PM) [snapback]288924[/snapback]
Bah, f*ck the Lion Rampant - flag of a King, not of the people.

Personally I'm happier f*cking the Lion Couchant-but whatever floats yer boat Mick!
mortonjag 2007-06-14 21:22:18
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 14 2007, 08:45 PM) [snapback]288933[/snapback]
they have made major mistakes

Tell me of any football club which hasn't Bryan-chrissiboi's referring simply to the success they achieved from a shower of rejects, including a memorable humping of Cellic! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-14 21:26:02
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 14 2007, 09:07 PM) [snapback]288943[/snapback]
"Ignorance breeds sedition" - are you suggesting the chappie is ignorant? ohmy.gif

Maybe he's just agnostic smile.gif

As in 'not knowing', or 'not able to know', or 'not knowing at this moment in time', or 'not able to know at this moment in time'-my GOD I'm confused as ever.
mortonjag 2007-06-14 21:34:33
QUOTE(SJ76 @ Jun 14 2007, 09:14 PM) [snapback]288946[/snapback]
Its somthing along the lines of not making anyone else's property less desirable, includes moving trees and shrubs from the garden too! Its the buyers solicitors who seem to have the problem with it, but as Arkleston mentioned I thought it didn't apply once the house was ten years old!

Narky's talking about the National House Building Council warranty which expires after ten years. The solicitor's referring to the original title deeds which are different.

He's protecting the purchaser from exactly the problem you currently have, should he subsequently want to sell, and strictly speaking he's correct.

Title deeds, like everything else, are subject to interpretation-it might even be argued that the conservatory has enhanced the ambience of the area, but if it's all over a couple of hundred quid, and the sale's pretty well in your pocket, it may be better 'the devil you know'-negotiate for an early solution.
mortonjag 2007-06-14 22:04:24
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 14 2007, 09:34 PM) [snapback]288952[/snapback]
Clyde's not the model. Inverness Caley are. With not much more resources and a smaller fanbase than us they put together a team which won the first and has sustained the SPL.

Clyde have a home support of around 1200-1500. We are far bigger than them and they are not the example to use in terms our signings. They are about aiming for top half first division with not much prospect of promotion (although they were not far away a couple of season ago). We don't just want to survive in the first division, we want to win it and then have a team that can sustain SPL status. Renfrewshire derbies in the SPL, thats what we want!!

The point I was making was simple. Clyde cobbled together a relatively successful first division side from effectively nothing-I was relating that relative success to the current questions about how much is in our spending pot.

Potentially we're far bigger than Clyde, and as you say Inverness Caley.
mortonjag 2007-06-14 22:12:02
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 14 2007, 08:42 PM) [snapback]288931[/snapback]
Oh, you know me - wherever there\'s a hole.

Jees oh-and here was me believing that story about the apprentice greenkeeper at Whinhill!
mortonjag 2007-06-15 04:58:02
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 14 2007, 10:50 PM) [snapback]288970[/snapback]
shop windows dummy ?tongue.gif

..spits oot dummy!
mortonjag 2007-06-15 05:01:48
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Jun 14 2007, 06:58 PM) [snapback]288863[/snapback]
Money was not the problem

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mortonjag 2007-06-15 05:09:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 15 2007, 02:46 AM) [snapback]289002[/snapback]
Gidday Tonsilitis,

Well, it's been stated that we have made AT LEAST 5 offers.

And all 5 offers have been turned down.

To have made 5 offers DDFR and JM may well have spoken with 15 or 20 players.

Surely, there is something that's not right ?
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Maybe aye, maybe no, NewTon.

It certainly appears that nobody's asking Morton to sign him!

Furthermore, the Chairman's still sideswiping his 'knockers' laugh.gif with comments in the press, while openly admitting his offers are not producing results. That DOES NOT smack of a very clear blueprint where four or five selected players will ultimately be attracted to Scapa, and it's just a case of waiting 'til the time's right.

It sounds to me far more like window shopping-nothing at all wrong with that I'd suggest-but it's been pointed out that several other clubs HAVE snapped up bargains.


Something that's not right?

Maybe aye, maybe no.
mortonjag 2007-06-15 05:14:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 15 2007, 03:09 AM) [snapback]289004[/snapback]
Gidday Real Hoops,

What is wrong with being up at 4.30 am ?

Isn't sunrise about 4.30 am this time of year ?

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Sun rises at about 4 a.m. here in one week's time Newt.

Early to bed and early to rise
makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise!
mortonjag 2007-06-15 05:18:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 15 2007, 03:53 AM) [snapback]289008[/snapback]
MORTON chairman Douglas Rae has fired back at critics who claim the Greenock club have failed to show any ambition since their promotion to the First Division.

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/displa...ton_snipers.php
Did DDFR really think about his posting the other day ?

Do potential players read the Evening Times ?

Is there anything wrong with CONSTRUCTIVE criticism ?

Are the results to date of our recruitment campaign good enough ?

And a couple of facts.

Our rival clubs have signed 28 players.

Some of these players were wanted by Cappielow.


Are we doing something wrong ?

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It DOES seem a tad OTT that the genuine feelings of a very small number of genuine Ton fans on a very small internet 'rag' have catalysed such a reaction.

Not the behaviour of someone who calmly shrugs off criticism, knowing that all is well and that the last laugh will be his.

mortonjag 2007-06-15 05:32:29
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jun 15 2007, 05:15 AM) [snapback]289014[/snapback]
Happy Birthday !

Your getting old.

Ice cube's exactly ten years older!
mortonjag 2007-06-15 05:37:17
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 14 2007, 11:18 PM) [snapback]288977[/snapback]
I go for Doc Savage to sideswipe old Sugar Rae with a combination of negativity and sarcasm .
No doubt if it went to points Sugar Rae would win on points by 70 to 30 .

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mortonjag 2007-06-15 05:42:03
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 14 2007, 08:36 PM) [snapback]288927[/snapback]
I still prefer my options tongue.gif

As The GodFather of the MSC are you willing to round up the troops tongue.gif

I've had a chat-the members of the Merry Senile C*nts club are too busy plotting subversion of a different nature!
mortonjag 2007-06-15 05:46:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 15 2007, 03:30 AM) [snapback]289007[/snapback]
Until the Tartan Tories are - over my dead body - given the chance to run Inverclyde, you've got nothing to base your arguments on.
What does Sick mean - "over my dead body"

Sedition ?

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Mick of Ladyburn-the latter day Joan of Arc-burned as a steak on a grand rotisserie before being sold to McKechnie Jess to make HAGGIS, and profits handed to DDFR on a silver salver in return for his naughty graph.
mortonjag 2007-06-15 06:26:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 15 2007, 05:56 AM) [snapback]289022[/snapback]
knowing that all is well and that the last laugh will be his.

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mortonjag, even Sugar Rae must surely see that all is NOT well.

He and JM now have a track record of making offers that are refused.

At least 5 out of 5 at last count.

If a player wants to play in the SPL or England, why are Sugar Rae and JM wasting valuable time talking to him ?

What's that old proverb ...

Cut your coat to suit your cloth.

Ex quovis ligno non fit Mercurius

DR quovis ligno est?
mortonjag 2007-06-15 06:28:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 15 2007, 05:59 AM) [snapback]289023[/snapback]
A proverb followed by Sugar Rae I am sure.

Absolute dead cert that one-BTW do you know if the sweetie factory runs 24 hours a day?
mortonjag 2007-06-15 06:31:45
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 15 2007, 05:44 AM) [snapback]289019[/snapback]
Gidday chrissiboi,

It would definitely go to points.

Sugar Rae
(wot a nickname) would have a steady supply of glucose between rounds.

And Doc Savage's deep compassion would stop him landing the knockout blow.

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From his Sugar Rae Robinson's Barley Water bottle?
mortonjag 2007-06-15 06:33:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 15 2007, 05:49 AM) [snapback]289021[/snapback]
Could they make some ashet pies as well please ?
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Ash*t pies Newt-are you calling Mick of Ladyburn 'Ash*t'?
mortonjag 2007-06-15 06:41:55
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 15 2007, 06:35 AM) [snapback]289028[/snapback]
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mortonjag, you don't expect a reply, do you ?

Sugar's reading of these boards is, IMHO, rather selective.

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In the immortal words of Chaucer, 'A man may seye full sooth in game and pley'!
mortonjag 2007-06-15 07:05:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 15 2007, 07:02 AM) [snapback]289030[/snapback]
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In the immortal words of Shakespeare, "There are none so blind as those who will not see."

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In the immortal words of Burns, 'The best laid schemes o' mice and men gang aft agley'.
JM mus est Newt?
mortonjag 2007-06-15 07:11:43 The latest twist from today's 'Herald'-Mr McCann's been having a go at the Dutch press for-well-what he calls irresponsible and insensitive publicity which has hampered the efforts of the Portuguese polis!

NONE SO BLIND
mortonjag 2007-06-15 07:14:25
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 15 2007, 07:06 AM) [snapback]289032[/snapback]
I have one downstairs, if he needs it.

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You too!

Mind you I find the en suite more comfy-BTW are bidets still fashionable in Oz?
mortonjag 2007-06-15 07:33:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 15 2007, 07:17 AM) [snapback]289036[/snapback]

Excellent, and I love that droll Aussie journalese-especially when the plumber claims the bidets are 'just a pain in the arse'.

Couldn't help laughing at the 'bidet a seringue'-it's the knotty poet in me-

Sat on his 'bidet a seringue'
DDFR heard a loud bang-
a top heavy load
made his oven explode
and covered the dog in meringue
mortonjag 2007-06-15 07:39:55
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 15 2007, 07:24 AM) [snapback]289037[/snapback]
In the immortal words of Sugar Rae, "many a mickle makes a muckle."

Ex muris ad dominus-doubt it-time will tell! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-15 07:46:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 15 2007, 07:31 AM) [snapback]289038[/snapback]
Sorry, mortonjag, I didn't think to drop into Fort Matilda last July.

I was in a hurry to get to Alibi's wedding.

But, I loved Sugar Rae's wee sweetie shop in Ann Street in 1957.

ooops - that's 50 years ago.

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Those were the days-a quarter of candy balls for 3d-liquorice pipes-lucky potatoes-lucky BAGS even- with wee plastic toys an fingz-and all those variegated jars paraded on the shelves.

Come to think of it, in 1957 having ONE million was quite a feat-now they come in wee boxes and are described as 'shakers'.
mortonjag 2007-06-15 07:48:31
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jun 15 2007, 07:44 AM) [snapback]289043[/snapback]
Do you two want to get a room.

nie rozumiem!
mortonjag 2007-06-15 07:55:38
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 15 2007, 07:51 AM) [snapback]289046[/snapback]
They don'y want regional devolution, they want an English parliament. What they will get (eventually) will be English votes on English matters in Westminster. Which in effect will be another nail in the UK coffin.

Who are 'they'?
mortonjag 2007-06-15 07:57:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 15 2007, 07:55 AM) [snapback]289048[/snapback]
We thought this was one.

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...in which we are chatting-do feel free to join-I'm led to believe Mr Tontastic pays the rent!
mortonjag 2007-06-15 08:00:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 15 2007, 07:39 AM) [snapback]289042[/snapback]
It sounds to me far more like window shopping-nothing at all wrong with that I'd suggest-but it's been pointed out that several other clubs HAVE snapped up bargains.

Bargains ???

There seems to be a view that canny shoppers with a limited budget won't buy until the SPL cast offs are on the market.

Maybe aye, maybe no.

Canny shoppers or cannae shop-no doubt perceived by 70% as can ae worms. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-15 08:37:25
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 15 2007, 07:59 AM) [snapback]289050[/snapback]
well, mortonjag, we had the place to ourselves for a couple of hours.

Now, the natives will be getting restless.

I'm off to buy a wee Cabernet Shiraz and to get ready for Friday night football.

Have a ripper, cobber.

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Be sure to uncork and allow to attain room temperature-oh don't forget the packet of bendy straws!
mortonjag 2007-06-15 08:42:32
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 15 2007, 08:14 AM) [snapback]289054[/snapback]
Gidday Dingo Crikey Didgeridoo, Newton

It's an expression, basically what I mean was that I'm strongly against the SNP running the Council.

Has that cleared everything up for you okay, pal?

I imagine he's getting into his RED wine as we type Micky Boy-local politics is TARTAN up the truth whoever's in power mind! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-15 08:46:49
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 15 2007, 08:25 AM) [snapback]289056[/snapback]
Err, the English

Would that be the Cornish Celts-the Geordie Grafters- the East Anglian anglers-the Scouser seafarers, or just a' thae Home Counties counts?
mortonjag 2007-06-15 08:53:54
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jun 15 2007, 08:42 AM) [snapback]289063[/snapback]
bardzo dobrze. Czy pan mowie po polsku?

Unfortunately no-ta for the compliment BTW! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-15 09:05:23
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 15 2007, 09:03 AM) [snapback]289070[/snapback]
McKenzie's a sort of newspaper shock-jock (now there's an irony, McKenzie being described as a jock...). His aim is to sell papers by pandering to the lowest echelons of society.

However, his article is racist and he should be prosecuted for it in the same way as he would be if he had used the same words to write an article about Jews, Muslims, etc etc.

Given the current fervour for 'PC' Alibi that begs a question!
mortonjag 2007-06-15 09:06:45
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jun 14 2007, 08:46 PM) [snapback]288934[/snapback]
I was in Smiths late on today. They have a cracking sale on of Morton merchandise. They have got loads of past Ton tops for £5, £8. They are selling last seasons home top for £12. Morton tracksuits, rain jackets, polo shirts etc. Some good bargains. Sizes are limited. They had loads of small kids tops for £5.

...maybe a few players still to leave Scapa?
mortonjag 2007-06-15 09:10:22
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 15 2007, 08:46 AM) [snapback]289065[/snapback]
ignorant adj 1 knowing very little; uneducated. 2 (usually ignorant of something) knowing little or nothing about it • ignorant of the facts. 3 rude; ill-mannered. rolleyes.gif

Don't you guys have any faith? biggrin.gif

faith
the substance of things hoped for-the evidence of things not seen (Apostle Paul)

indeed, but as Jesus said, 'Faith without works is dead'.
mortonjag 2007-06-15 09:17:47
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 15 2007, 09:12 AM) [snapback]289076[/snapback]
All of England. And I do recognise the Cornish have a struggle for independence too that I support.

Surely you support devolution then?
mortonjag 2007-06-15 09:41:13
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 15 2007, 09:34 AM) [snapback]289086[/snapback]
Obviously my question has went right over your thick Australian heid. I wasn't having a dig.

That wouldn't be a racist comment perchance?
mortonjag 2007-06-15 09:52:48
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 15 2007, 09:46 AM) [snapback]289091[/snapback]
Nope. If someone is thick and Australian, you call them a thick Australian.

"All Australians are thick", would be a racist comment.



If someone is 'thick and Australian', I might suggest he should lose weight, or possibly even allude to 'an Australian who doesn't seem 'the full shilling'.

As Newt implied you leave yourself open to criticism by using terms like a 'round ball', even if not all balls are round-mine certainly ain't.

Is yours? smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-15 10:12:32
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 15 2007, 09:58 AM) [snapback]289095[/snapback]
Worryingly lumpy, thanks.

...it's meant to be lumpy-so would the other one be if it was there!
mortonjag 2007-06-15 10:45:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 15 2007, 10:33 AM) [snapback]289108[/snapback]
Hitler, he only had one ball,
Goering, he had two but very small,
Himmler had something simmler,
But poor old Goebbels had no balls at all.
Frankfurt has only one beer hall,
Stuttgart, die München all on call,
Munich, vee lift our tunich,
To show vee 'Cherman' have no balls at all.

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careful newt -the walls have ears!
mortonjag 2007-06-15 10:47:43
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jun 15 2007, 10:36 AM) [snapback]289109[/snapback]
To answer your original query - your lawyer will be best placed to advise. It may be a precautionary measure incase it's flagged up by the purchaser's lawyers. Your lawyer should get off his fat arse and write to the builders for the permission - it's part of his fee to get all these things in place. It may be that with the housebuilder now under different ownership, etc then it may be redundant but only your lawyer can advise on this. When buying a new house, the contracts of sale are extremely one sided but as the purchaser, you have no option but to adhere if you want the house.

Re-read the original terms and missives you signed. It may be that the clause expires upon completion of the development. For example, I recently bought a new flat whereby none of the purchasers were allowed as a condition of sale to advertise their flat for sale until the development was completely sold out.

Not in Pishley-I hope!
mortonjag 2007-06-15 10:55:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 15 2007, 10:44 AM) [snapback]289111[/snapback]
allow to attain room temperature
mortonjag, it's all gone - that's evaporation for you.

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...why is it then that you can drink evaporated milk, but condensed milk is thicker than Australians a deep fried Fudgy Wudgy ?
mortonjag 2007-06-15 10:58:46
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 15 2007, 10:52 AM) [snapback]289115[/snapback]
Another example of the "quality" of our commercial department.

Why have a photograph of Sugar Rae rather than a photograph of Jacki Donachie ?

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Oh c'mon-it's a LOVELY photie-winsome in the extreme-photogenicity and geriatricity are often uncomfortable bedfellows.
mortonjag 2007-06-15 11:31:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 15 2007, 11:13 AM) [snapback]289121[/snapback]
That's NOT the point, mortonjag

Show the CUSTOMER - not the owner.

Basic business principles.

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....indeed-but it's still an offal nice fotie-doesn't look at all bent IMHO-would you trust that man with your half empty pint?

I WOULD!
mortonjag 2007-06-15 11:37:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 15 2007, 11:24 AM) [snapback]289122[/snapback]
conDENSEd

Evaporation and condensation ain't the same animal.

Just ask Sick.

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Ah-con DENSE-make more DENSE

EvapoRATion extermination of rodents..and if you're a dense rat is it possible to be evaporated and condensed simultaneously, on the new SNHS?
mortonjag 2007-06-15 11:45:49
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 15 2007, 11:32 AM) [snapback]289128[/snapback]
Yes.

I'm ignorant with regards to the last two lines of the first verse in a song about Hitler's testicles. You, and your superior attitude, have memorised the entire song about Hitler's testicles.

Is this what they give out degrees for these days?

Mick PLEEEASE don't get that topic started again-a 'degree' is a 'stepping stone'-no more and no less.

People who think they are better than others because they are better educated are either academic snobs, or, as in my case, correct.

Now to Hitler's TESTES-the correct medical term (plural of testis, if you're that fortunate)-it's well know that he 'only had one ball' and Newt has been good enough to recite the whole ditty just for you-you should be grateful young man, instead of bleating about 'superior attitudes'.



mortonjag 2007-06-15 11:51:49
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Jun 15 2007, 11:35 AM) [snapback]289129[/snapback]
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Aye-but singing's an 'art form'-they're trying to entertain their customer base by providing what's most likely to sell.

Otherwise known as exploitation by the record companies?
mortonjag 2007-06-15 12:00:04
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 15 2007, 11:50 AM) [snapback]289137[/snapback]
Have you ever heard the saying that you sometimes have to treat pensioners like children? unsure.gif

I wish someone would stick the Tweenies on and plank you in front of the telly, maybe that would stop you two auld c*nts slevering all over my screen with this inane, semantic rubbish day after day.

as you spatter all over your screen your insane seminal chromosomes- and less of the ageism-pensioners nowadays start at fortyish-if you mean decrepit old geriatric c*nts like me, I don't mind in the slightest being treated like a child-f*cksake-I've just slevered on my bib again-naughty step and nae nookie thi night.
mortonjag 2007-06-15 12:07:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 15 2007, 11:40 AM) [snapback]289132[/snapback]
are you starting to mellow, mortonjag ??

Sugar Rae may post something nice about you next week.

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His old threads are still missing on the official site.

I wonder why ?

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That would be lovely-and extremely rare! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-15 12:09:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 15 2007, 11:47 AM) [snapback]289135[/snapback]
Did you ask Sick ?

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he's probably otherwise occupied dry.gif though will, no doubt, be back in a couple of shakes.
mortonjag 2007-06-15 12:11:52
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 15 2007, 11:55 AM) [snapback]289144[/snapback]
I like everyone else, I presume, received an Email from Gillian to apologise for the delay in printing the Season Tickets - (Like I need it before the 4th of August anyway??).

Good on the club to keep us up to date (again) with the situation but I noticed that the group email contains only around 120 names. Do you think that's all we've sold so far??? [b]Is that not quite poor [/b]ohmy.gif

Shame on you-giving with one hand and taking with the other! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-15 12:14:36
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 15 2007, 12:02 PM) [snapback]289149[/snapback]
Joining me in the Incomplete Education Club then, or are you happy as Chairman of the Hypocrites Society?

Ach-away an bile yer heid-we're all in that club 'til the day we die-students at the University of Life.
mortonjag 2007-06-15 12:32:56
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 15 2007, 12:28 PM) [snapback]289164[/snapback]
“what do you expect form an English printerâ€
I am sure that Colkitto would agree that this is blatant racism.

Which unionist Ton supporter would like to lodge a complaint ??

To the authorities and/or to Sugar Rae.

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C'mon poor auld Shoogly can't win here-he clearly placed the order with an English printer to postpone having to immediately debit about £3,500 from fans' accounts! ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-15 12:35:26
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 15 2007, 12:27 PM) [snapback]289163[/snapback]
Here, the amount of time I spend entertaining you two elderly pr*cks on this message board - I should be able to put that on my C.V.

People do that with voluntary work at the Day Centre don't they?

...and much more socially acceptable than yours in the mens' lavvy!
mortonjag 2007-06-15 12:42:10
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Jun 15 2007, 12:29 PM) [snapback]289165[/snapback]
I dont normally critisise anything you say NT, but c`mon to fek- months????

I seriuosly think that if anyone out there who thinks in the frame of mind that they could out do anything staff at Scappa currently do, would be in for the worst fcukin shock of their existance. The amount of whinging that goes on at times beggars belief at times it really does.

The monkey says he could do Cappie's job better for half the cost-but he says many strange things-BTW do you work at Scapa, Vader, or is this just an opinion. There again, I must clarify-is it an opinion, or a statement?
mortonjag 2007-06-15 12:46:40
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 15 2007, 10:16 AM) [snapback]289100[/snapback]
Peace?

My maw used to say 'The Irish are never at peace unless they're fighting' Mick, but all I can say is 'Give peace a chance'!
mortonjag 2007-06-15 12:51:40
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Jun 15 2007, 12:49 PM) [snapback]289171[/snapback]
If you knew me to see you`d have your answer.... cool.gif

I've seen you on telly Vader, but never at Scapa-sometimes I wake up in a cold sweat with you breathing down my neck! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-15 13:05:18
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jun 15 2007, 12:54 PM) [snapback]289173[/snapback]
That article is hardly very high on the 'bad publicity' scale. The kind of thing that is read and forgotten by the majority of people. If you want bad publicity, speak to Michael Barrymore.

erm Michael who?
mortonjag 2007-06-15 13:09:19
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jun 15 2007, 12:56 PM) [snapback]289174[/snapback]
vader does and so does a certain other person who i shall keep nameless as that would be a cheap shot and hes my pal....................................

Vader DOES what FT?

He's not an 'insider' on this rag surely-he seems quite a normal chap TBH!
mortonjag 2007-06-15 13:50:00
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 14 2007, 11:02 PM) [snapback]288974[/snapback]
If he had put a byline at the end of his statement saying that he would hope that this puts fans minds at rest that we are working behind the scenes to achieve what they want .
Instead it was the typical outburst we have come to resent but expect sadly enough .

I've been giving this some serious thought this morning, especially after the latest piece in the Evening Times-which of course has a large circulation throughout West and Central Scotland, and I'm more confused than ever by what his motives are.

Does he honestly believe we are the embodiment of the Antichrist-infiltrators who are trying to undermine his authority? It's repeatedly been pointed out-usually scathingly- that this 'rag' has at most a couple of hundred active posters, of whom less than one hundred voted in the recent poll.

Put in perspective, he can draw in several thousand fans of varying levels of allegiance for the likes of the Killie game, and a mere twenty or so have suggested he may not be doing everything right!

Frankly I don't get it-though I'm fairly sure Dougie just DETESTS anybody 'crossing' him-is that IT?

As I've suggested elsewhere (and indeed hope IS the case), if everything's 'sorted' for next season, surely he should be able to treat us with the contempt we RIGHTLY deserve.

It does seem, though, more like your description of a 'typical outburst' Chrissiboi, and that from a gentleman who, we are reminded ad nauseam, 'deserves' gratitude and respect.

For the time being, I will continue to express my heartfelt opinions about 'the Ton' only on this FORUM, where they are entirely valid and appropriate IMHO.
mortonjag 2007-06-15 14:00:18
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 15 2007, 01:56 PM) [snapback]289186[/snapback]
I really like the Cafe as a pub, but I've always hated it for food. Overpriced and very poor. Rude waitresses sometimes. I remember out with mates, ordered Macaroni and Cheese, clearly stated NO bacon in it, comes out with bacon, politely say that I didn't ask for bacon in it, girls says ok, goes back with it, another one comes back out with it and, get this, SAYS THAT I'M LYING AND I DID ASK FOR IT!!!

Gobsmacked isn't the word. Everyone else at the table backed me up and she still insisted I was in the wrong. Eventually went away, came back with one growling, and it appeared that it was the same one with bacon picked out and reheated. Told her to ram it, as everyone by this time was on to their desserts.

Every single time I've been in the cafe for food they get something in the order wrong. It's a disaster for food, great for a drink.

If that's a fair representation of the establishment Dong, it would appear that many of our erstwhile respected posters' heids are well up their snobbish arses!
mortonjag 2007-06-15 14:10:08
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 15 2007, 02:03 PM) [snapback]289191[/snapback]
Can I just point out that the nickname "Sugar" is reserved and only to be applied to Billy Sugar Osborne, the scourge of West Brom?

Very true-I think Newt means 'Shoogy Rae', or should that be 'Sugary'-but 'Sugar's definitely battering Billy Osborne!
mortonjag 2007-06-15 15:25:15
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 15 2007, 03:15 PM) [snapback]289210[/snapback]
LINK 2 STORY

THE BLOODY GREENOCK COUNCIL [OF JESUITS] HAVE STOOD IN THE WAY OF CIVIL LIBERTIES AND PREVENTED A MARCH ON LAND BETWEEN TWO SCHOOLS.

PERSONALLY, I BLAME KAFFLICK SCHOOLS.

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mortonjag 2007-06-15 15:47:18
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 15 2007, 03:30 PM) [snapback]289214[/snapback]
NO SIR, I AM AN INDIVIDUAL DEFENDING DEMOCRACY.

IN A FREE COUNTRY CAN WE NOT MARCH WHERE WE LIKE?

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mortonjag 2007-06-15 16:00:06
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Jun 15 2007, 03:53 PM) [snapback]289219[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2007-06-15 16:02:54
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Jun 15 2007, 03:56 PM) [snapback]289220[/snapback]
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Aye you'll have a right old wheeze down there when 'yer man's oot, I'll bet!
mortonjag 2007-06-16 05:39:19
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 15 2007, 10:04 PM) [snapback]289359[/snapback]
well I think you'll find that was James and not Jesus (nor Thomas)

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laugh.gif Aye probably- for once I didn't check!

Using James in a metaphorical sense, I've not lost faith in bringing home the catch-I just feel it would be easier with a couple of experienced crew members on board, and a captain whose compass is not regularly deflected by an owner who believes he can 'walk on water'.
mortonjag 2007-06-16 05:52:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 16 2007, 03:24 AM) [snapback]289482[/snapback]
IT’S been a turbulent week for Greenock Morton.

There has been frustration and euphoria from management and fans alike and there’ll no doubt be more to come before the season officially kicks off on 4 August.

A section of the Morton support has voiced concern through various mediums regarding the lack of transfer activity at the club.

It is understandable, but not justifiable.
http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/article...ort&id=8822

euphoria from management and fans alike
Was someone euphoric on here this week ?

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Chris Fitzgerald gets his money easily-I could have written a more informative article in five minutes.

It says NOTHING we didn't know, and the joke is compounded by the pictue of our manager fastidiously seeking quality players with HIS EYES SHUT! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-16 05:58:32 I believe the influence of new players will be CRUCIAL.
mortonjag 2007-06-16 06:04:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 16 2007, 05:57 AM) [snapback]289489[/snapback]
but where was the euphoria ?

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The only euphoria I remember was when we found that Sick had not drowned at sea.

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I'm puzzled, but the good hack has shared experiences with JM who certainly looks like he's 'on something' in that mug shot!

He also speaks of information coming from 'MEDIUMS'-perhaps the euphoria could be described better as spiritual enlightenment. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-16 06:12:28 Policing those bigot fests costs a small fortune to local government, while the central lot rake in the booze and baccy tax.

They are an affront to the ears, eyes, and common decency, with arrogance directly proportional to ignorance, and inversely to intelligence.

If they could decant the whole Orange Order and its affiliates into a large lavvy pan, I'd pleasurably cover them in curried keech before flushing them to the bowels of hell.
mortonjag 2007-06-16 06:21:09
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 15 2007, 08:50 PM) [snapback]289305[/snapback]
as opposed to the correct term smile.gif

No- as placed alongside the incorrect medical term 'testicles', frequently used in quasi medical literature, and perceived by the public as a medical term.

Though it's splitting (baw)hairs.

Scrototrichodissection-I'd call it!--the PROPER medical term. wub.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-16 06:32:04
QUOTE(lush @ Jun 15 2007, 11:27 PM) [snapback]289444[/snapback]
Not you, the "blokes". Usually got something to say about everything. wink.gif

Well here's my say LL, and it comes from the father of three children, and ex husband of a secondary school teacher.

I know many 'children' really enjoy the proms-at their most innocent, they allow a mutually enjoyable 'unwind' from a session of hard academic toil.

They have, however, rapidly become-like weddings- a ridiculously expensive 'social statement', and the common peer perception is that you go to get 'smashed' while successfully pulling and hopefully bedding your target male or female.

I wonder how many unwanted pregnancies occur annually in Britain, as a direct result of those ridiculously profligate Americanisations of the 'Final Year Dance'.

Gracious it's only 6.30 a.m.-still enough time for prayer perhaps! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-16 06:52:14
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 16 2007, 03:16 AM) [snapback]289481[/snapback]
"Macca" was closing in on a signing before the weekend.

It it the weekend yet ?

Who did we sign ?

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There is nothing on the Scotsman or Glasgow Herald web sites.

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There are many 'weekends' before August, Newt- not offal menny mind!
mortonjag 2007-06-16 06:58:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 16 2007, 05:50 AM) [snapback]289487[/snapback]
a captain whose compass is not regularly deflected

Having a professional relationship with manager Jim McInally, I only wish I could write fully about the trials and tribulations he’s endured in trying to bring the very best calibre of player to Morton.

http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/article...ort&id=8822

Gidday mortonjag,

Why does Fitzgerald's relationship with the captain preclude him from writing about the skipper's trials and tribulations.

Why the "censorship" ?

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Censorship Newt? I'm confused-he can write about the skippers 'trials and tribulations' 'til the end of next season if he wants-it's simply that his article said nothing new. It could easily have been written by the ship owner-indeed it may be his 'nom de plume'!
mortonjag 2007-06-16 07:08:06
QUOTE(lemmington @ Jun 16 2007, 07:03 AM) [snapback]289500[/snapback]
I here it is kicking in on the 1st of July.I know we were the guinea pigs,but how will our cousins from south of the border cope with the ban..............

CLAYMORE CO*K will probably disagree, but I'd suggest by continuing to smoke significantly less per capita than us (in public or elsewhere)!
mortonjag 2007-06-16 07:15:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 16 2007, 07:02 AM) [snapback]289499[/snapback]
Censorship Newt? I'm confused-he can write about the skippers 'trials and tribulations' 'til the end of next season if he wants.
"I only wish I could write fully about the trials and tribulations he’s endured."

mortonjag, it seems that he feels that he cannot ??

We are both confused.

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Prime suspects-Arfur-naw-he'd have said 'MEDIA'-dead cert. Crawford-possibly. Cappie-well who knows.

IS Chris Fitzgerald

SHOOGLY
mortonjag 2007-06-16 07:25:16
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 16 2007, 07:20 AM) [snapback]289503[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

You agreed to ensure that your next poll would be simpler.

It has now been viewed over 20 times and no one else has voted.

A choice of 5 options is TOO MUCH.

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Correction Newt, MY polls are carefully designed. The one to which you refer was cobbled together by Mr Tontastic.

My last poll, which evoked contribution from the erudite Mr Bahomey had as many options and seemed to produce extremely scientific results. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-16 07:38:46
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 16 2007, 07:29 AM) [snapback]289505[/snapback]

aw come on, mortonjag you may be silly, but yer nae daft.

You KNOW that Mr Bahomey only voted so that could include the poll in his thesis research.

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...aye-and he WROTE the f*ckin' thing three times on this 'rag' just for practice! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-16 08:02:05 Digressing a tad-I have little time for politicians. I found it highly amusing to see the SNP flouting their reforms with not a clue as to the ultimate cost or how they will pay.

Joke McC of course jumped on the bandwagon, calling them bribes-no doubt he understands all about that sort of thing.

I asked CLAYMORE c**k to tell me how wee Nickerless was going to fund the all new SNHS which will meet demand (despite the old one having failed for sixty years), and all he could do was a bit of gratuitous G.P. bashing.

As to the practicalities of funding further education-what does he know. The Secretaries of Court at our Universities may not see this as a forward looking move.

Abolishing bridge tolls-fair enough, but the lost income inevitably has to be recouped.

Oh- and aw ra best to this year's graduates-even those at dummy Universities.
mortonjag 2007-06-16 08:10:07
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jun 16 2007, 12:38 AM) [snapback]289468[/snapback]
Yet strangely criticism OF an unofficial forum remains a hanging offence.

Well, if you sleep with the lights on that is.

Time to grow up. tongue.gif

Excellent!

WHEN'S THE SHOW


Yours aye,

Mortonjag.


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mortonjag 2007-06-16 08:18:20
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 16 2007, 12:04 AM) [snapback]289463[/snapback]
Calm yourself GT !
I think the club should be praising your efforts which show the AHMS genersity and get the spirit and atmosphere going , I think everybody should commend the AHMS .
I just think that if the club gave the go ahead the chairman could have issued a statement praising your efforts .
Surely that is a more worthwhile statement than mentioning a few grumpy old men "for which at times I am "for showing some anxiety for the up and coming season .


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Who are you calling GRUMPY

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Didn't you mean that exclusive minority of enlightened gentlemen of advancing years?

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mortonjag 2007-06-16 08:29:05
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 16 2007, 08:06 AM) [snapback]289514[/snapback]
Well, Alex Salmond is an economist having studied at Uni. I'm sure he can do the math on this laugh.gif

That has to be one of the weakest arguments in your phantasmagorially hyped slide show of Bawheid's qualities.

Oh-did he study at a REAL Uni BTW?

So Bawheid's an economist who doubles as a politician, and tabloid tipster.

f***in' gambler by any other name.

And to quote your goodself (ad nauseam). Answer my question-a new SNHS which will meet demand without increasing use of the private sector-where is the money going to come from.

Please don't let us all down by saying that you've got no original thoughts and are just a paid SNP propaganda agent.
mortonjag 2007-06-16 08:35:21
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 16 2007, 08:29 AM) [snapback]289518[/snapback]
Personally I would prefer scandanavian buses and topless birds..... or even better topless scandanavian birds, but maybe that's just me.

I've seen the occasional Dane running around Scapa like a heidless chicken-but most were quite well endowed.

TITTER YE NOT.
mortonjag 2007-06-16 08:39:03
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 16 2007, 08:35 AM) [snapback]289520[/snapback]
Let's take what Michael Forsythe said. Firstly on the Barnett formula.

Needs based assessment for the whole UK, seems fair to me.

On university funding.
Again correct.

As to students paying. Said it before and I'll say it again. Students are disproportionately middle class. The executive's move means that middle class students will be subsidised by working class taxpayers. dry.gif

Mr Bam, I understand, and agree in principle.

I would, however, appreciate enlightenment-what ARE those working and middle classes to which you refer?
mortonjag 2007-06-16 09:02:12
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 16 2007, 08:43 AM) [snapback]289522[/snapback]
40 views but only 2 voters.

mortonjag, you may need to consider making voting compulsory.

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Only 9.oo a.m. on a Saturday morning Newt-give it time!
mortonjag 2007-06-16 09:03:56
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 16 2007, 08:46 AM) [snapback]289523[/snapback]
Mortonjag and Tom McB discussing SNP policy....

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mortonjag 2007-06-16 09:11:43 MIcrosoft's introducing Scots dialect words into their dictionary-you can now type 'braw bricht moonlicht nicht' etc., without automatic editing out.

Excellent news for those thousands of Scots whose education has left them semi illiterate, and who rely on software to do their 'talking' for them.
mortonjag 2007-06-16 09:15:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 16 2007, 09:07 AM) [snapback]289528[/snapback]
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whit ?

Are you saying that those who have read the poll but not bothered to vote, don't want to vote on an empty stomach ?

Or do they need to go to get advice ?

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I've probably visited six or seven times myself Newt-I presume each time you click the topic to view, update, edit, or even by mistake, it's logged as 'a view'.

I THINK! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-16 09:22:54
QUOTE(Youngsa @ Jun 16 2007, 09:17 AM) [snapback]289531[/snapback]
A bit of everything really

1. Will Dougie splash the cash during the summer to get the players we need and will he again dig deep if required at Christmas to keep us in the league?

2. Has the manager learned enough to avoid making the simple mistakes that have been made in the past. Also will he ltake advice from any older, wiser heads that may be brought in?

3. How quick will new players bed in. Hopefully they will all have been over this particular course before so it shouldn't be a problem BUT some older players often believe they know better than the manager. Alos influence on younger players - bevvy bookies etc.

4. Always a given until thngs start going wrong - patience is the watch word this season - avoiding the play off/relegation will be an achievement in my book.

5. Quality of squad - we've managed to give more experienced squads a ggame over the last couple of years but our young squad may struggle on a week in week out basis. There is no doubting that some teams have better players more experience. It is time for all our players to stand up and be counted every week and not just when they fancy it.

Agree with that, and it's ultimately the manager's job to make it happen, but having the correct blend of youth and experience could save JM many a headache IMO.
mortonjag 2007-06-16 09:26:27
AL


get yese-ya cheeky c*nts! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-16 09:33:24
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 16 2007, 09:26 AM) [snapback]289538[/snapback]
I'm on the standard 522L code however since i started my new job I've been hammered, IMO, on Tax and NI.

Last year I paid approx 24% in deductions but now I pay 27.2%.

Surely this can't be right ??

Can a couple of folk on here work out what % they're now paying on a 522L tax code.

This must be on a bare pay with no overtime as you get taxed more on O/T.

Go on line for tax and NIC tables Willow.

You're entitled to £5220 p.a. before tax. NIC are deducted from the gross pay before that allowance is applied to 'taxable pay'. Any other 'allowances'-like pension contributions, are also deducted from the gross before the tables are applied.

The NIC tables relate to gross income and are on a sliding scale.

It's actually very easy to check if you're being paid accurately.

The discrepancy may reflect recent changes in rates of tax and, or, NIC but online tables will be up to date.
mortonjag 2007-06-16 09:41:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 16 2007, 09:32 AM) [snapback]289540[/snapback]
PLEASE answer the question.

You know how much we want news of additions to the squad.

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Fair enough, I have it on very good authority that Makin Ali has used his middle Eastern contacts to secure the services of a seasoned Egyptian midfield grafter..

AL FUKEM


Apparently he's ruined more legs than an incompetent plastic surgeon.
mortonjag 2007-06-16 09:47:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 16 2007, 09:41 AM) [snapback]289546[/snapback]
Sugar Rae has just voted.

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UNFUKKINBELIEVABLE


..but it's not 70% YET! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-17 06:13:19
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 16 2007, 02:42 PM) [snapback]289611[/snapback]
Thanks All

Willow-follow those steps

1/ Divide annual gross by 52 and mutiply by 4 to get your 'four weekly' gross pay (A)

2/ If you've any 'extra' tax free allowances, 'B', like company pensions, one-off shift allowances etc. they are deducted from 'A' along with your NIC, BEFORE you apply the tax tables.

'A' is applied to the NIC tables to find the correct amount of NIC over four weeks-giving figure 'C'

NOW!

From 'A'

Subtract 'B' (IF it applies), and 'C'.

You now have the correct 'four weekly' TAXABLE pay, which you divide by 4 and multiply by 52 giving annual taxable pay. Deduct £5220 from that, and then work out 'tax due' using the correct threshold rates.

Subtract from 'A', the final tax due sum adjusted back to four weeks, along with the NIC for the four weeks, and I THINK you should get the correct answer!!

There again it sounds a bit complicated when I write it down!
mortonjag 2007-06-17 06:29:00
QUOTE(shedhead @ Jun 16 2007, 10:09 AM) [snapback]289558[/snapback]
Prince of Wales about to enter Cardiff leisure centre.

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mortonjag 2007-06-17 06:37:33
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 16 2007, 09:44 AM) [snapback]289548[/snapback]
Hi everyone. Haven't had one of these for weeks, so lets see what you make of this piccy.
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REVEALED FO FIRST TIME

Picture of failed attempt to clone Dolly
mortonjag 2007-06-17 06:41:54
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 16 2007, 03:51 PM) [snapback]289644[/snapback]
No, you miss my point. Testis (pl. testes) may be the correct medical term but that does not make it the correct term. rolleyes.gif

EH-who's splitting hairs now Trumpet!

The CORRECT term for WHAT?

A testis, or a testicle, or wan o' yer baws?

The public (correctly) call it a 'testicle'

It is correctly described as 'testis' in medicine.

TESTIS IS the correct medical term. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-17 06:43:55
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 16 2007, 10:36 AM) [snapback]289572[/snapback]
As I has said "ad nauseam" I'm not a member of the SNP, so I'm hardly a spokesman for them.

Salmond was an Economist with the Royal Bank of Scotland. If you were going to get someone to run the economy seems to me it's better to have an economist at the helm.
Would you like a school teacher (like shagger McConnell was) to run your surgery? or for that matter our economy unsure.gif

All the SNP policies are costed. If we run out of money we will just simply ask London for more laugh.gif

You didn't answer the question!
mortonjag 2007-06-17 06:45:57
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 16 2007, 12:05 PM) [snapback]289584[/snapback]
You are a member of the Bourgoesie you capitalist rentier you. Living off the oppressed masses.

I on the other hand am a member of the petit bourgoesie.

CHC, horny handed son of toil that he is is plainly proleterian.

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mortonjag 2007-06-17 06:56:19
QUOTE(Rossco @ Jun 16 2007, 09:52 PM) [snapback]289708[/snapback]
Interesting you didnt take exception to someone sticking there hand up your bum.

...and disappointing that you've admitted it in public! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-17 06:59:17
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jun 16 2007, 11:44 AM) [snapback]289582[/snapback]
Thank you Loyal Lass biggrin.gif .

i had a fantastic night, best night of my life...it was the academy prom btw.......i danced the night away, the food was fantastic, got loads of pictures. at the end it got really emotional for most of us girls and we had a good cry, im going to miss everyone sad.gif but it was a great send-off and i really really enjoyed it

Well done-you've restored my faith in womanity!
mortonjag 2007-06-17 07:04:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 17 2007, 04:32 AM) [snapback]289749[/snapback]
A REFERENDUM on Scottish independence could be held as early as next year after a dramatic move by Conservative leaders to support the historic poll.

The party's vice-chairman has publicly backed a referendum as soon as possible to "clear the air" over Scotland's constitutional future.

Several Tory MSPs are backing the move, claiming the poll - which is likely to reject independence three to one - would "shoot the Nationalists' fox".

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http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=946432007

'Shoot the Nationalist fox'! dry.gif

I thought the Tories would prefer it to be ripped to pieces by baying hounds.
mortonjag 2007-06-17 07:10:51
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 16 2007, 11:06 PM) [snapback]289717[/snapback]
Your years supply of quarter pounders are whizzing there way to you as I type .
Aye ,
DDFR

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mortonjag 2007-06-17 07:14:15 [quote name='chrissiboi' date='Jun 16 2007, 11:28 PM' post='289723']
the thing we need from JM is to bed these guys in there strongest positions at the start and not have a Stevenson scenario .

Spotted purchasing Kama Sutra in 'Bargain Books' in Oak Mall I'm told.


mortonjag 2007-06-17 07:43:00
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 17 2007, 12:10 AM) [snapback]289727[/snapback]
The samaritams must have refused your calls for 4 years if not winning this league is a disappointment . tongue.gif
When the club do something right I praise them but not airing your views when you feel things are wrong is a dereliction of your beliefs .
You obviously keep a keen eye on developments with QOS which gives us an insight on what sort of expectation we should be looking at .
I think if DDFR used the website properly some of the criticism about new signings would not have arose , so he has to share in the blame for not updating the fans at the nearest oppurtunity .
Instead of the criticise us ! How very dare you !! We were trying to sign ....... . Hopefully he will learn that fans are anvious for any news even if it is about upgrading work at Cappielow or a new signing . Its hardly a chore putting it on the website .

The problem seems primarily that:
1/ He believes he can do no wrong,
and
2/ He believes that anyone who questions him is 'IN THE WRONG'.

He positively MOANS to those he sees as a huge majority who hang on his every word, about 'negativity boys who are never happier than when they're having a moan', as he hides behind the 'Tilly' or 'Times' in an attempt to 'AUTHORISE' his opinions.

'What Morton chairman Douglas Rae said in yesterday's 'Evening Times', or 'Greenock Telegraph' is frequently perceived as Gospel by its readers.

You're SO right Chrissiboi, and it's really starting to piss me off. He'd gain a lot more credibility if he attempted to 'talk' to us on GMFC.net., but it appears he DOESN'T want that. It would be FAR too uncomfortable and I guess he knows it.

What Shoogly needs to remember is that the press are never happier than when the get a fresh angle on things. Sooner or later, I'd suggest, one of our 'rag' posters may be tempted to submit an article to relevant Sports Editors, calling in question his 'Daddy always knows best' attitude.

IS THAT WHAT HE REALLY WANTS?
mortonjag 2007-06-17 08:10:42
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jun 17 2007, 07:53 AM) [snapback]289763[/snapback]
Ooooo an article. The very foundations of Cappielow must be rocking right now.

Go on then bubbles, take 5 mins out of your punishing all day internet schedule and do it.

You won't.

CAWSTON-personal profile-no information as expected-always jumps to Shoogly's defence-clearly not very bright.

Or wait-is it CAWSTON the clever subversive, who really wants somebody to publish 'that article'.

Either way, if one of the posters on this 'rag' were to do so, I'm sure it would not have been influenced by him. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-17 08:18:10
QUOTE(shedhead @ Jun 16 2007, 09:49 AM) [snapback]289550[/snapback]
If my patter was as bad as yours MJ I'd be getting Mahatma Coat and phoning a taxi tongue.gif

...and now that the taxi's departed-I can no longer MAKU SIKH.
mortonjag 2007-06-17 08:23:27
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 17 2007, 08:15 AM) [snapback]289768[/snapback]
I must have came across you at some point Gibby. I used to go to most of these places (apart from Images, wasn't to keen on that place) when I was younger. Tokyo Joes was the place to get into if you were only 16 or 17. Did it not become Bogies eventually. I nearly got lifted by the polis for frollicking with a young lady in the Royal Mail car park after one very good night in TJ's. wink.gif

...and you were only trying to show her how to post a parcel.
mortonjag 2007-06-17 08:29:21
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 16 2007, 10:13 AM) [snapback]289561[/snapback]
Indeed and i myself would have been one of the 1st to do so.

Stick to your word JM, for once, and deliver the SPL experienced players you promised us.

How much say does he have, do you estimate Willow?
mortonjag 2007-06-17 08:33:12
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jun 17 2007, 08:28 AM) [snapback]289772[/snapback]
Was speaking to an Airdrie fan last night that claims to know someone on the board at Airdrie.

According to him, Twigg had a medical at Morton this past week, and is 75% likely to sign.

Dr Morton's been in practice up there for years!

Oh and I heard he's 100% likely....


TO SIGN.
mortonjag 2007-06-17 08:36:51
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 17 2007, 08:26 AM) [snapback]289771[/snapback]
It was a small package but it travelled far laugh.gif

Was the delivery recorded?
mortonjag 2007-06-17 08:45:09
QUOTE(Robert the Bruce @ Jun 16 2007, 11:56 PM) [snapback]289726[/snapback]
Maybe that is where Tom came from.

I am sick of this s*** you get with the apologist brigade trying to justify their beliefs by rubbishing facts.

They kids were picked out for being Scots plain and simple, there is no need for academic bulls***ers to try and tell us what race is, i am a Scot from the Scots race so f***ing live with it.

I would love to see the stink created if it had been "*potential ethnic slur removed*'s" that were attacked or "Chinks" and f***ing ban me if you want for saying that, it is not meant to be racist i am stating another fact.

Tell that w**k in that local piece of s***e Greenock Telegraph to pick up on Scots kids being attacked.

Correction-they were picked on by a shower of drunks-unreasonable through alcohol.

I wonder what reception they'd have given to a troupe of middle aged English Morris Dancer pouffes gaily prancing round the maypole?
mortonjag 2007-06-17 08:53:06
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 17 2007, 01:09 AM) [snapback]289740[/snapback]
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It's funny how I only laugh at one joke in here, and it's the worst one.

I laughed too, though the correct answer is Rev Paisley.
mortonjag 2007-06-17 09:10:50
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 17 2007, 08:57 AM) [snapback]289782[/snapback]
I don't particularly like political jokes (they tend to get elected) but this one always raised a smile ......

Mrs Paisley goes to the dentist. How's that troublesome mouth of yours ?

Still in bed.

TonInDublin

ps you could always change Paisley for Adams depending on your outlook.

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Wouldn't it be Paisley-Adams then TiD? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-17 09:13:45
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 17 2007, 09:08 AM) [snapback]289785[/snapback]
You're mixing your pubs up Weegie. Bogies was at Cathcart Square, and was previously called The Cathcart (strangely enough) then it became Bogies then The Cats Pyjamas. Tokyo Joe's was where The Whistler is now (or was the last time I was over !)

TonInDublin

Don't be too hard on him-he was pissed at the time!
mortonjag 2007-06-17 14:37:56
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jun 17 2007, 10:17 AM) [snapback]289821[/snapback]
It appears to me he has 100% say. It's now up to you to prove me wrong. Isn't that how it works?

I merely asked a question of Willowman.

Why should it be up to me to prove your statement wrong?

You may be correct.
mortonjag 2007-06-17 14:59:19
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 17 2007, 12:28 PM) [snapback]289872[/snapback]
How rude do you get? Cawston disagrees with you and so he's not very bright??? I don't think Dougie is the one with a problem about thinking he's always right, is he MortonJag? Typical bloody doctor!!

If you dish out insults and insinuation and unsubstantiated rubbish, don't be surprised if you get a bit coming back your way. Of course Morton have issues to address but there's also a question of prioritising what is to be addressed on finite resources. So far Dougie has done a pretty good job on that

Hmm-Tonsilitis jumps to defence of Cawston.

Why is it that the minute somebody suggests PUBLICLY raising questions about Mr Rae-I sense a closing of ranks?

Or there again, am I just being a 'typical bloody doctor'?

After all they are usually pretty crap at making diagnoses from glaringly obvious symptoms! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-17 15:05:45
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jun 17 2007, 01:01 PM) [snapback]289885[/snapback]
Get this s*** off my thread mad.gif

In conclusion, after all those posts all that has been truly definitively decided is that Mortonjag is an arsehole.

smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-17 15:08:40
QUOTE(TonGa @ Jun 17 2007, 01:09 PM) [snapback]289890[/snapback]
Could not agree more, well said. Bitter and twisted wind up merchant, and certainly not a morton fan (insults to follow no doubt).

Moi!

Not unless calling you a 'Shooglyphile' could be taken as 'insult', 'insinuation', 'unsubstantiated rubbish', or indeed all three. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-17 15:15:20
QUOTE(Lancashire Hot Pot @ Jun 17 2007, 09:54 AM) [snapback]289817[/snapback]
You think? If only I had time to sit on a messageboard all day churning out the garbage you do. I haven't found anything you've ever written informative. Oh, and Paul McGowan is a STRIKER not a MIDFIELDER. You don't need to be paid 'easy' money to know that, either.
The purpose of that article was to summarise, not to inform. People are frustrated but some think the club aren't doing anything to strengthen. Well, that's wrong and I felt summing up the past week's events was an apt thing to do in light of there being nothing 'informative' to report.
It's so easy to be a keyboard critic on an internet forum, Mortonjag. Why not write to me personally, or the editor, to air your concerns with my earning of 'easy' money? You'll receive a response outlining everything I have to do on a daily basis and, if you really want to know, my salary for doing so. Put it this way, I couldn't afford to live in Glasgow's 'trendy west end' with what it equates to.

Your article was, IMO, crap-you are a poorly paid 'Tilly' hack-that doesn't lower my opinion of you-only what you write ever will. I am a Ton supporter who want the best for our club as a whole.

Do you defend free speech or not?
mortonjag 2007-06-18 03:53:43
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jun 17 2007, 03:06 PM) [snapback]289962[/snapback]
Siege mentality?

Possibly.
mortonjag 2007-06-18 04:01:33
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jun 17 2007, 11:43 PM) [snapback]290173[/snapback]
Blah, blah...and indeed, blah.

How's the article going, many words did you get through today?

Can't wait for this expose, in fact I've put these guys on standby Mentaljug article exclusive - the world is waiting

Don't want to pre-empt anything but I really hope you include the time those slackers scored four up and Forfar, missed a pen and rattled the post a couple of times despite your clear instructions that 5 had to be knocked in before they could consider themselves adequate human beings.
Bunch of chancers, can you believe they had the cheek to collect their 'winners' medals after that one blink.gif

The house of cards is about to fall...Mmmwahahhahahahaha

sad.gif

Hmm-get's pretty boring this stuff-maybe Tonsilitis is correct, and swopping insults isn't really for adults-there again, maybe we're all just weans at heart.

Incidentally I was thinking we could have lots of news from Cappielow this week-possibly some signing news, and Cawston revealed as.......? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-18 04:14:31
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 17 2007, 03:35 PM) [snapback]289975[/snapback]
you are a kn** sucker

and DIDN'T you enjoy it! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-18 04:38:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2007, 02:41 AM) [snapback]290187[/snapback]
then where was the "euphoria" that was mentioned?

Gidday vikingTON,

I wondered how this bloke was going to explain his euphoria.

But, it looks like he isn't going to.

He must be too high brow for us.

sad.gif sad.gif

Possibly-after all, 'Mr' Fitzgerald is a 27 year old 'youth' from England, who on his own admission is paid 'peanuts' for his contributions to a small provincial newspaper.

On his CV might also be included:

I have a professional relationship with Ex Scottish International footballer, and Manager of Greenock Morton F.C.- Jim McInally.

(exact nature of the relationship undisclosed). laugh.gif

The red bearded one and others appear to have suggested that the article penned by The Lancashire Hotpot was in fact a deference to our hallowed Chairman.

Seems he's partial to a dollop of

MINCE
mortonjag 2007-06-18 05:05:20 It's becoming clearer to me every day that there is a problem for posters on this forum. We are told we may freely express our views-indeed that they are welcome-provided we adhere to the published rules.

I believe that's the way it ought to be.

Over the last couple of weeks, however, it's again been apparent that criticism of the club, and of the Chairman in particular, elicits seemingly 'knee jerk' reactions on the official web site, and in the local and Regional press.

In particular, an article in the 'Tilly' has effectively been described as having been written to please Mr Rae.

All that is bad enough, but what concerns me even more is that certain posters have received 'p.m.'s of debatable agenda, while presentation of any argument (however reasoned), against the Establishment, automatically results in personal abuse-invariably from the same quarters.

I wouldn't dream of suggesting that several posters are 'so far up Chairman Douglas's erse they can shoogle his wallies'-that would be ever so rude....

...and Mortonjag's above that sort of thing. wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-18 06:37:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2007, 06:22 AM) [snapback]290199[/snapback]
Get this s*** off my thread

my thread ??

Gidday ThornTON,

a wee bit possessive of you, mate.

blink.gif

Sh*t, thread, and arseholes Newt-ThornTON's perhaps not much of a bookworm! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-18 06:48:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2007, 06:25 AM) [snapback]290200[/snapback]
watch the votes for alternative 1 surge this morning.

3 votes so far ... Sugar Rae, JM and CF ???
laugh.gif laugh.gif

the 3 Musketeers.

Shooglathos Rae
Jimaramis McInally
Chrisporthos Fitzgerald

hmm... I think Dumas would have something to say about that lot!

mortonjag 2007-06-18 07:14:17
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jun 18 2007, 07:09 AM) [snapback]290203[/snapback]
For each action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Unfortunately MJ, you are the opposite side of the coin to those who over enthusiastically act as DDFR's ra-ra team. Most fans find themselves somewhere in the middle and can identify rights and wrongs on both sides.

I really can't see that much difference between Dougie's autocracy and yours.

Really-well at ten past seven I can understand that! wink.gif

The difference might just be that my 'autocracy' is merely self indulgence at a keyboard. wub.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-18 07:32:22
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jun 18 2007, 07:19 AM) [snapback]290205[/snapback]
Alternatively Dougie's autocracy may well simply be due to ownership of GMFC. Either way it's going to make for a long and sometimes tedious close season smile.gif

Hmm-something strange about that statement-the club indeed appears to have mystical powers.

I take your point, though the closed season's always been long and tedious IMHO. Anyway, they say 'It's good to talk', among many other things!
mortonjag 2007-06-18 07:42:17 Sir Paul McCartney picks up his old age pension, and Waterloo (1815) is commemorated.

Three days to midsummer's day and weather not settled yet-Sick Mick'll tell you why!
mortonjag 2007-06-18 07:46:21
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jun 18 2007, 07:39 AM) [snapback]290207[/snapback]
They also said the Titanic couldn't sink smile.gif

...which was patently an illogical statement-most of those well known sayings are generally true, but particularly contradictory.

Look before you leap/he who hesitates is lost etc.

One of the ones I like best is 'Don't believe everything you read in the papers'! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-18 07:48:47
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jun 18 2007, 07:47 AM) [snapback]290211[/snapback]
Only thing in favour would be a return to the west coast, as he was at Killie for 5 years. But not a chance, so might as well end this here...

Not like you to hijack somebody else's thread!
mortonjag 2007-06-18 07:59:27
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 18 2007, 07:51 AM) [snapback]290213[/snapback]
It would appear to be going that way.

It'll soon be a Dictatorship tongue.gif

Probably this thread will now run to sixty three pages discussing the definition of that word!

Anyway-what DOES it mean? Are you suggesting Mr Rae's a dictator Willow? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-18 08:54:16
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2007, 08:47 AM) [snapback]290222[/snapback]
a benevolent dictatorship, if you please.

VERY benevolent please!
mortonjag 2007-06-18 09:24:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2007, 09:09 AM) [snapback]290226[/snapback]
who on his own admission is paid 'peanuts' for his contributions to a small provincial newspaper.
Well, from his trip to Bali, WDE will be able to him what you get when you have peanuts.

wink.gif

Well there must be about seven or eight different definitions here!

Is it something awfully nice?

BTW the monkey approves of your picture.
mortonjag 2007-06-18 09:44:04
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 18 2007, 09:21 AM) [snapback]290228[/snapback]
It seems to me Mortonjag, that your interpretation of free speech is that you and the other critics of the club and its management should be allowed to say anything (which, short of downright abuse, I agree with) but that those on the receiving end or with a different point of view should have no right of reply (which I do not agree with).

Posters like Cawston, fo example has been told by you that he is pretty dim because he does not share your views. Chris Fitzgerald has to suffer a professional assassination and have his paper dismissed as a rag because he dares to print an article supporting the club and criticising the moaners.

Freedom of speech is a prerequisite for a successful board but a number of posters on here abuse that right by putting over their point of view in a vitriolic and sometimes downright mean spirited way. People need to remember that freedom of speech is a two way street.

For what it's worth I think that there are many things at the club which could and even should go better but placed in the context of where we have been and where we are now, they are not major. My own reasoned opinion is that Douglas Rae and Jim McInally have done pretty reasonable jobs - not perfect by any means - but pretty reasonable, and that the constant carping and criticism is way over that top. I've thought that out for myself based on what I see at Cappielow and, to be honest, if guys like MortonJag can't accept and respect my right to hold these views, without resorting to insults and abuse, its time I was'nt here because this board has been hijacked by a narrow minded mafia that I don't like much.

All you've really done is repeated that you don't like what I say, and the style in which I say it Tonsilitis, and that's perfectly fair. If you refer my comment about personal abuse to that (after yours)from WDE you'll see exactly what I mean.

So far as THIS FORUM's concerned I pretty well agree generally with everything you've said.

Where I totally disagree-and several other posters have made the point also, is that you think it's fine for DDFR, Fitzgerald et al, to disseminate their one sided views for public consumption via an official message board, and the Press, knowing full well we don't have any 'in' there.

Furthermore, the minute I even HINTED that somebody-I was NOT meaning myself-might submit an article to the media-Cawston seemed to get his knickers in a twist.

Now to get back to the real issue here. What STATEMENTS have I made about anything 'Morton' which are 'actionable'?

If the answer is 'None', I rest my case-if otherwise, I await the summons.

Incidentally I couldn't miss the irony of your 'board...mafia' comment!
mortonjag 2007-06-18 09:44:39
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jun 18 2007, 09:26 AM) [snapback]290230[/snapback]
You're the problem. All you ever do is criticise , if it were up to me I'd ban you from Cappielow and this forum.

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-18 09:46:18
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Jun 18 2007, 09:29 AM) [snapback]290231[/snapback]
Far to sensible for this board both in content and time it was posted

More 'cans' and 'can'ts'-eh! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-18 10:17:43
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jun 18 2007, 09:50 AM) [snapback]290237[/snapback]
That's a very good post
That's tedious

Care to expand-or are you just another of the 'one liner hingers on', SH?

You come over as a sensible guy-I'm sorry you find the post tedious-is it simply because you don't like my style and repetition? If so, as I said to Tonsilitis-that's fair enough.

May I say though, that I find posts like yours equally tiresome in that they effectively indicate membership of a select 'Happy Clappy' club.

I think you're far more intelligent than that. Yet again I'll comment that NOT ONE poster has produced evidence to allow me to change my assessment of Douglas Rae. Why is that?
mortonjag 2007-06-18 10:25:10
QUOTE(lush @ Jun 18 2007, 10:09 AM) [snapback]290243[/snapback]
I take it your music is not pounding? You should have a word with them before it gets any worse. Are they old?

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-18 10:29:52
QUOTE(Albundy @ Jun 18 2007, 10:03 AM) [snapback]290239[/snapback]
My next door neighbour come to my door at 6.30pm on Saturday evening asking if I could turn down my music, this is the second time in the last six months they complained , first was by letter complaining about music being too loud during the day

To say I am p*ssed off is an understatement because I’ve lived in my house for over 15 years and very seldom play music and never had any complaints in the past but since these new neighbours arrived 6 months ago they have complained twice

I’ve looked on the net to see my rights and unfortunately they favour the person who is complaining and can lead to having your music equipment confiscated

I will tone my music down but I won’t let this lie, does anyone know of anything I can do to annoy my neighbour ?

The most obvious (and effective) will be to keep playing your music. The law on matters like this is inevitably woolly. 'Loud music' at 6 p.m.'s very different from the same at 3 a.m., for example.

You say they've been next door for six months-do you pass the time of day-do they seem decent enough folk?

Much easier to look for a compromise than escalate matters-you'll both suffer.

mortonjag 2007-06-18 10:40:57
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jun 18 2007, 10:27 AM) [snapback]290251[/snapback]
From the 'Are we setting our sights too high thread', I said
"It appears to me he has 100% say. It's now up to you to prove me wrong. Isn't that how it works?"

You replied
"I merely asked a question of Willowman.
Why should it be up to me to prove your statement wrong?
You may be correct."

Doesn't that show a double standard with the burden of proof?

I called your post tedious because I find the constant bickering on here extremely tiresome. There is debate and there is bickering. I really can't be bothered with it and am somewhat stunned that I'm actually bothering to get involved.

There is no double standard SH-I merely invited evidence, and its absence is significant given the heated nature of the 'bickering' as you describe it.

If there is indeed, in your mind, 'debate', and 'bickering', those are by DEFINITION merely your opinions, or are you REALLY above the rest of us intellectually?

Either way, I don't know why you're bothering either, if you've nothing relevant to say on this 'tedious issue'.
mortonjag 2007-06-18 10:45:23
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 18 2007, 10:40 AM) [snapback]290257[/snapback]
if they've got a yappy dug i'll be more than happy to come round in the middle of the night and strangle it. no charge.

Manky dug throttles yappy dug!
mortonjag 2007-06-18 15:13:30
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 18 2007, 10:57 AM) [snapback]290267[/snapback]
Your freedom of speech ends where the freedom of association of others begins. Pretty simple stuff.

Giraffe's baws to me Nach0

Anyway others seem to be associating very nicely thanks-aye Mortonjag's a self satisfied condescending prat, and don't they gobble it up quicker that they c*** an ear to Shoogly's every word.

He must be so proud! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-18 15:57:26
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jun 18 2007, 03:18 PM) [snapback]290354[/snapback]
Probably quite insulting to some "rags" at times...

I don't think anyone at the club should have commented on the messageboard at all. It's great that they've finally given an update on progress to quell the discontent amongst the fans generally, but this board is often populated by anonymous extreme points of view and general wind-ups.

By commenting, they've given credence to a series of opinions exagerated to create a bit of controversy and reaction amongst the users of the board.

Trumpet-and that's a term of endearment-before 5001.67 posters start the usual 'condescending' pish, you are a man of wisdom and perception. I salute you, as does the Monkey and his little friend 'Fing'. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-18 16:03:34
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Jun 18 2007, 02:36 PM) [snapback]290342[/snapback]
Christ! It was Roger Graham for years and now Chris Fitzgerald gets earache from all the sad little individuals who claim to be Morton's number one fan!!

I am a Morton fan and am thankful for the updates in the tele from Chris and lets be honest the daily tabloids don't give us much press. But I am in no way a fanatical fan and count my family, health and work ahead of The Ton. Just because Chris is not a fanatical fan doesn't make him in anyway a bad reporter. Perhaps the fanatical fans need to broaden their horizons a little.

My post was for Chris-everybody else has read it out of context. He's probably a good enough reporter-couldn't say as I don't normally see the 'Tilly'.

It just happens that the article which was drawn to my attention appeared to have been written for the wrong reasons, and said nothing newsworthy, IMV VHO.
mortonjag 2007-06-18 16:08:26
QUOTE(lush @ Jun 18 2007, 11:06 AM) [snapback]290271[/snapback]
I meant even older than you. wink.gif
wink.gif
VERY OLD

mortonjag 2007-06-18 16:10:25
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 18 2007, 11:33 AM) [snapback]290277[/snapback]
i'll come round in the middle of the night and strangle her if you want. no charge.

Pooosy owner throttled by manky dog
mortonjag 2007-06-18 16:18:28
QUOTE(lush @ Jun 18 2007, 04:12 PM) [snapback]290374[/snapback]
It seems our Manky is a bit of a closet strangler. ohmy.gif

Cistern smothered by manky dog
mortonjag 2007-06-18 16:23:00
QUOTE(Albundy @ Jun 18 2007, 12:21 PM) [snapback]290297[/snapback]
The music base is quite high and after they complained the first time I lifted the speakers off the floor , there is no way I can have a word with them , they are totally unreasonable , they even put a note on their door asking that the "postman does not cut accross the grass , its very annoying"

The postman should be using the path like everybody else-they're obviously into grass in a big way.

This family fascinates me-do they walk to church in single file wearing funny hats and clutching bibles?
mortonjag 2007-06-18 16:26:54
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jun 18 2007, 04:06 PM) [snapback]290368[/snapback]
patronising b*****d smile.gif

FU2 wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-18 16:28:16
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 18 2007, 11:21 AM) [snapback]290275[/snapback]
Id never deny anyone freedom of speech but I would deny MortonJag freedom of the bold buttons dry.gif Its so tedious!!!.

We are all capable of working out which are the important words in your post for ourselves without you having to highlight them for us.

GOOD

rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-18 16:30:37
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 18 2007, 04:27 PM) [snapback]290381[/snapback]
Your outed.
Lush is Basil Brush in disguise, shocker ohmy.gif tongue.gif

Foxy lady?
mortonjag 2007-06-18 17:26:36
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 18 2007, 05:11 PM) [snapback]290392[/snapback]
laugh.gif MJ on the wind up again and your all falling for it. rolleyes.gif

unsure.gif

WOOD EYE
mortonjag 2007-06-18 17:29:17
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 18 2007, 02:11 PM) [snapback]290333[/snapback]
I bet Gordon Brown's underpants were the same colour as his surname when he first heard that news though laugh.gif

Gordon Red White Blue Brown?
mortonjag 2007-06-18 17:34:30
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 18 2007, 02:24 PM) [snapback]290339[/snapback]
We don't even have a canteen - nevermind a rip-off or subsidised one.

I never had a lunch break in my working life Mick, but now all day's one big 'lunch break'.

BTW there are more calories in a Gregg's cheese and onion pasty than in two Mars bars! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-18 17:36:30
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 18 2007, 10:53 AM) [snapback]290263[/snapback]
Eejit- one cannot consume too much whisky. laugh.gif Though the old is true.

Interesting that Alibui disagrees with the perceived nationalist wisdom of hate crime.

With age comes wisdom perhaps.

Youth is indeed wasted on 'the young', Mr Bam!
mortonjag 2007-06-18 17:38:13
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jun 18 2007, 04:48 PM) [snapback]290387[/snapback]
Not bad compared to the rest, still think anything over a tenner is way too much for a game fitba.

Mr Rae has done a magnificent job IMHO.
mortonjag 2007-06-18 18:02:45
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 18 2007, 05:46 PM) [snapback]290407[/snapback]
I actually don't mind DDFR having a wee go whether it was levelled at me or others . I do find it rather interesting that despite him dismissing our forum as a rag . He obviously still takes enough interest to know that there are those who don't always think he has taken the correct course of action .
He did seem more concerned with the frustration of those who were complaining about our lack of signings rather than comments made about his autocrisy . The same as the youth system he made no reference to those who attacked the club for what they see as a missed oppurtunity .
As far as I know MJ has never showed any concern about the lack of signings so far . It would be foolish to comment on something we are not privy to , so an evaluation at the beginning of the season would be the best policy .
I like the forum and it's good that we don't all agree on the way the club is run whether that is directed at the Chairman or on the field . To ban anyone from this board or Cappielow because of what they say or how they say it ,is absurd . Was that not a tactic used by the despised Hugh Scott .
I agree with Trumpton in what he says . You can't curb conversations at the game or at the pub . DDFR and the club should embrace new avenues in which to harness support and to be proactive in encouraging debate , new ideas etc . I think DDFR is being rather shortsighted in not ensuring that the club isin't updating supporters at the earliest oppurtunity .
He maybe annoyed or disappointed that some supporters haven't had the patience to await news of new signings . He is aware of his eagerness to get the right people in place for the start of the new season yet he hasn't expanded this principal to the wider fanbase .
Regular updates would have stopped the anxiety and made those aware of the calibre the club were trying to attract . So there are faults on both sides . I am not always right but I express genuine concerns at the way the club is run .
Everyone should be allowed an opinion even if they don't claim to excrete blue and white hoops from every orifice .

I'd love Dougie to come on here and give as good as he gets-it would make a change from having to tolerate pathetically repetitive whining sycophants, most of whom clearly have never met him, appear to know little about him, and ultimately resort to personal abuse in a misguided crusade to help a man more than able to hold his own ground.

He may be a self opinionated old fart like me, but at least we'd get some genuine passion instead of the sanctimonious tripe which is directed at his critics by those who can't 'see past him'.
mortonjag 2007-06-18 18:10:16
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jun 18 2007, 02:47 PM) [snapback]290347[/snapback]
Im confident that Mcinally will bring in Quality players and take heart in the fact they are not bringing in players for the sake of it ..

I suppose all we can do is put our trust in Mcinally and Dougie

They are doing the best they can-and IMO always have.
mortonjag 2007-06-18 18:27:00
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 18 2007, 05:35 PM) [snapback]290399[/snapback]
Unless the house belonged to the vigilante, in which case the comma is superfluous.

Dont fink weave mutch chanse of changing fings-its gone to far


TOMATOE'S-£3.20-Kilo
mortonjag 2007-06-18 18:32:29
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 18 2007, 05:41 PM) [snapback]290405[/snapback]
Yeah of course I shall send out a mass PM to let all know the story, and then (once I work out how...) a mass email with a progress update/conclusion date...

Mr Edinton-a personal request-PLEASE do this timeously. This forum is my life blood, and keeps me off the streets.

If I'm caught on one more 'road rage' rampage, the mobility scooter will be confiscated, and I'll have to swop my probation for a visit to the 'Big Hoose'. sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-19 05:18:19
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 19 2007, 12:03 AM) [snapback]290652[/snapback]
If you stare at it long enough naked ladies will appear tongue.gif

Your cheque bounced!
mortonjag 2007-06-19 05:25:56
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 18 2007, 05:44 PM) [snapback]290406[/snapback]
Pals with mortonjag?
Defamation is a very costly procedure. mad.gif

Cheaper to join the 'Jaggy Needles'-the secret and exclusive club whose sole aim is to undermine the establishment at GMFC.

Membership is free to all who will willingly kiss Mortonjag's arse, hang on his every word, defend his gaffes through thick and thin, and drink diet Irn Bru, to the skirl o' Puggsy's chanter.

For all others there's Mastercard.


mortonjag 2007-06-19 05:33:00
QUOTE(GMC @ Jun 19 2007, 12:27 AM) [snapback]290667[/snapback]
It's U18's for the season tickets this year, so I'd imagine it'd be the same at the gate.

PS Willowman, I think you may have quoted the wrong person... if not its a very strange reaosn to call someone a bawbag. unsure.gif

Cawston, in my extremely humble opinion, is the definitive


SCROTUM
mortonjag 2007-06-19 05:38:39
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jun 18 2007, 06:45 PM) [snapback]290444[/snapback]
It's uncanny. rolleyes.gif

Do tell 'Scrotum'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-19 05:40:51
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 19 2007, 12:14 AM) [snapback]290659[/snapback]
Indeed as well as the MODS of this board tongue.gif

Mr Rae is benign.
mortonjag 2007-06-19 05:42:33
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 19 2007, 12:17 AM) [snapback]290661[/snapback]
I think DDFR's communication could have been worded more appropiately .
The main issue should have been about their efforts to sign players . Then all the other stuff new kit manufacture , season tickets then a plea for abit of calm from those who had been sharpening the axe abit . ( by the way I am a critic but not about the signngs to date )
I think if he had worded it this way the penny would have dropped at those who had doubted the clubs ambitions . So without escalating the situation he would have proved his commitment . Instead he bludgeoned his way through the support which again is the cause of much debate .
So I think DDFR has to soften his approach to the supporters when and how he releases statements . I can't see why he couldn't issue a weekly statement about what is currntly happening . I am not asking for intimate details about transfers . Things like the upgrading of the floodlights , progress on the drainage work . I think alot of fans want to know more than about the eleven players that take the field on a Saturday .
It would be great if everyone involved with the club learned something from this and hopefully a better understanding from both supporters and club officials would be the result . We can only hope .

And some refuse to be bludgeoned Chrissiboi-simple as that.
mortonjag 2007-06-19 05:51:40
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 18 2007, 08:27 PM) [snapback]290531[/snapback]
The direction of the thread rests entirely on the people who post.
Sick Mick advocated the return of Latin Mass, and the Pope seems ready to answer.
Who am I to block the transmission of creed from father to son? rolleyes.gif

We owe so much to Latin-I abhor its moribundity.

If we can have threads which run to several pages on the anachronistic Gaelic, I feel this needs appropriate discussion.

Holy Father, you have my unmitigated support.
mortonjag 2007-06-19 05:53:36
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 19 2007, 12:01 AM) [snapback]290650[/snapback]
Deego, my esteemed fellow messageboarder, I believe that the purpose of the "swear" filter is two fold:

1: To protect the innocent eyes of other, more delicate messageboarders.

2: To piss f***ers like me right f***ing off when the b*****ding c*** of a s***ty thing blocks my completely justified obscenities.

Also, I hate Sc***horpe.



F*CKING C*NTS
mortonjag 2007-06-19 05:55:29
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 18 2007, 09:10 PM) [snapback]290573[/snapback]
You obviously haven't read all my posts then. I post on the Morton related forum quite regularly (during the season) I'm sure most posters will verify that.

When CLAYMORE C*CK talks football, he often talks sense. He knows his 'Morton', and wishes they'd always wear the tartan strip! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-19 06:03:21
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 18 2007, 08:04 PM) [snapback]290515[/snapback]
I would contend that Frank Carson was the funny chap around then.

Though the gag played on radio 4 was worth a titter.

Two old ladies sitting on the beach saw a streaker going past. One had a stroke.
The other couldn't quite reach. tongue.gif

I heard that in reverse Mr Bam.

'Twer two old codgers. The motionless one opined woefully, 'That stuff we got in our tea during the War's working at last'.
mortonjag 2007-06-19 06:10:54 Do you ever use it? I never have felt the need-indeed my approach to our forum is that we all cook in the same kitchen. Those who can't stand the heat should stay out altogether, instead of 'spoiling the broth' as they back off the oven, only to return later for second degree burns. wub.gif wacko.gif

mortonjag 2007-06-19 06:27:45
QUOTE(edd @ Jun 19 2007, 04:27 AM) [snapback]290686[/snapback]
irn bru is good cos it has water, sugar and caffeine in it. food always helps, and although a hangover simply means that your body is missing the alcohol, if you continually drink alcohol to keep hangovers away then you'll become an alky.

laugh.gif

If you continually get hangovers, you probably are! sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-19 06:33:38 If I knew your address, I'd send you a card-happy 60th Sir!

Ten years ago on your birthday, British politics welcomed Tweedledum Haig into the play pen as leader of the Conservative party.
mortonjag 2007-06-19 06:40:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2007, 06:25 AM) [snapback]290200[/snapback]
watch the votes for alternative 1 surge this morning.

3 votes so far ... Sugar Rae, JM and CF ???
laugh.gif laugh.gif

the 3 Musketeers.

Twenty four hours have elapsed Newt, and together Shooglathos and Jimaramis have polled a mere 13%. Chrisporthos will have to practise his spin shots.

Seems the vast majority believe it's down to the boys on the pitch.
mortonjag 2007-06-19 07:17:25
QUOTE(thesmithston @ Jun 19 2007, 06:45 AM) [snapback]290704[/snapback]
went to listen to the dalia lama today in wellington. inspirational talk about peace and humanity and individual responsibility. reinvigorated and the journey for peace in the mid east goes on....

peace

Nae Sou'wester and only wan boot-are you skint?
mortonjag 2007-06-19 07:25:43
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 19 2007, 12:02 AM) [snapback]290651[/snapback]
Peroni Special Reserve is gooood. [b]Tasty and strong enough to get you s***faced in a remarkably small period of time[/b].

...after which the taste matters not and you'd be better off with-well anything strong and cheap! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-19 08:12:48
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 19 2007, 07:54 AM) [snapback]290708[/snapback]
The tops I believe will be £40 and I don' think its right to steal Smiths thunder when they launch they top, you'll just have to wait and see the design. No doubt some will be happy, some never are. tongue.gif

Is Cappie getting a new suit?
mortonjag 2007-06-19 08:40:37
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 19 2007, 08:16 AM) [snapback]290711[/snapback]
depends how much is left after our signings!

Hmm-that poosy possibly brings in more dosh than..erm..one can imagine!
mortonjag 2007-06-19 08:41:22
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 19 2007, 08:17 AM) [snapback]290712[/snapback]
If it was up to me MrJag I would dress Cappie in a Pine Overcoat. tongue.gif

He may join the 'Jaggy needles' for free!
mortonjag 2007-06-19 08:44:22
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 19 2007, 08:34 AM) [snapback]290716[/snapback]
Been reading they women's magazines again, auld fellah?

.....never tire of it Micky me lad-though that information came from a different source!
mortonjag 2007-06-19 08:46:09
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 19 2007, 08:36 AM) [snapback]290717[/snapback]
latin should be taught in all schools.

and those who fail to learn should be caned, and...
mortonjag 2007-06-19 08:47:48
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jun 19 2007, 08:43 AM) [snapback]290720[/snapback]
Good enough...

You have chosen to ignore all posts from: mortonjag.

· View this post
· Un-ignore mortonjag


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You just love toying with your 'ignore' button-try a different chat up line!
mortonjag 2007-06-19 09:12:50
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 19 2007, 08:33 AM) [snapback]290715[/snapback]
eh?

y'up?

nup

hurryup... gerup

yupyit?

yip
mortonjag 2007-06-19 09:17:42
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 19 2007, 08:15 AM) [snapback]290710[/snapback]
S c u n t horpe..?

laugh.gif

You have unusual culinary tastes!

fAYRy cakes
mortonjag 2007-06-19 12:13:35
QUOTE(TKMorton @ Jun 19 2007, 10:26 AM) [snapback]290741[/snapback]
It would be nice if the club would keep peoples details private, its not hard, you do not need to show all other season ticket holders everyones email addresses. Before anyone starts their crap, yes i have directed this to the club as well.

You are absolutely correct. I have no need to disguise mine, and to date the hit squad from the Tail O' the Bank has failed to arrive, but some posters may have wished more discretion.
mortonjag 2007-06-19 12:16:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 19 2007, 10:38 AM) [snapback]290745[/snapback]
still only 3 votes.
ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

12.15 Newt-when do we close the polling station?
mortonjag 2007-06-19 12:20:30
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 19 2007, 10:53 AM) [snapback]290748[/snapback]
Mr Fitzgerald's last posting was nearly 48 hours ago.

Will he post again ?

Or has he been gagged ?

huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif

It seems that the good Chris Fitzgerald's
left DDFR in the lurch.
He's taken a job with the Herald-
selling it outside a church.
mortonjag 2007-06-19 12:26:46
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 19 2007, 12:03 PM) [snapback]290766[/snapback]
Never used it, never will. If i don't like what a user has posted i will either reply, or just carry on reading the thread/move to another thread. It's a personal choice as some things that are posted I might not agree with and I may think that certain people are talking rubbish, but other people may think that what is posted makes sense. It's all a matter of personal perception. Sometimes certain people post utter rubbish in one thread but have good constructive arguements in another thread. Is that a good reason to put them on ignore. No. I don't even want the function on my screen.

Exactly Weegie-ban the 'huff' button , I say!
mortonjag 2007-06-19 12:29:37
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 19 2007, 10:38 AM) [snapback]290744[/snapback]
Ice Cold can of Diet Irn Bru and a Slice 'n tatty scone roll with tomato sauce.

The future's bright,-the future's....
mortonjag 2007-06-19 12:32:10
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 19 2007, 12:17 PM) [snapback]290772[/snapback]
a half and a half pint , always works its magic

That's the scientific and proven answer to a REAL hangover-that plus time!
mortonjag 2007-06-19 12:34:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 19 2007, 12:30 PM) [snapback]290781[/snapback]
selling it outside a church.

The Church of Cappielow ?

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I've not heard yet-MidTONs probably has the answer!
mortonjag 2007-06-19 12:36:26
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 19 2007, 12:30 PM) [snapback]290780[/snapback]
That's a great idea chrissiboi. I emailed the club a while back with a similar idea and Gillian said that they would get back to me. Still not heard anything.

laugh.gif

I imagine Gillian told you that with every good intention! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-19 12:47:53
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 19 2007, 09:50 AM) [snapback]290732[/snapback]
Nothing like a bit of fresh tuna.

....with some prawn for starters!
mortonjag 2007-06-19 12:50:24
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jun 19 2007, 12:24 PM) [snapback]290776[/snapback]
Our fate next season will be decided by God.

However, I firmly believe that God wants us to at least stay in the first division and may even want us to finish in the top half of the league. He will let us know whan he has decided which players he will be sending to Cappielow for next season.

Aye, he owes us one after keepin' the 'midden' up. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-19 12:53:44
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jun 19 2007, 12:47 PM) [snapback]290790[/snapback]
Paul "Macca" McCartney?

Frank "Macca" MacAvenny?



From tomorrow's Scottish Sun perhaps!



Macca re-signs Gowza
mortonjag 2007-06-19 12:57:45
QUOTE(Pat SharpTon @ Jun 19 2007, 12:51 PM) [snapback]290793[/snapback]
He's probably had the good sense to ignore the idiots on here.
For what it's worth I think the way people have reacted on this forum has been a disgrace to our support. I'm just back from a wee holiday, log on here and can't work out what all the fuss is about. I followed the link and read the article. What has the guy done wrong? I mean, John Sutton coming here would have been a big deal and I didn't hear that anywhere else.
It seems Mortonjag has a vendetta against the chairman and anyone who dares support him. It's embarrassing now, not to mention boring.
I don't know what Barbarrossa's problem with Chris is, but to post that PM publically has summed up what he's all about.
And Newton, the only thing he's probably gagging on is the verbal diarrhoea you come out with.
I don't like all of the Tele, but I do like the Morton coverage. They do seem to put a positive spin on things but then they have to, don't they? If they piss Morton off, then Morton won't talk to them.
I'm not defending everything the Tele does, but I think it's ridiculous to condemn them without knowing the ins and outs.
And yes, I do know Chris personally. It was he who told me about this new forum in fact. Thankfully, as he's said to me before, the idiots are in the minority.

and may have chosen the wrong holiday venue.
mortonjag 2007-06-19 13:00:33
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jun 19 2007, 12:59 PM) [snapback]290799[/snapback]
Ah, the difference a hyphen can make.

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mortonjag 2007-06-19 13:17:31
QUOTE(Pat SharpTon @ Jun 19 2007, 01:03 PM) [snapback]290805[/snapback]
What he said.

PST-what's your function at the'Tilly'?

NO harm in defending your colleague (or friend), and if you've read all the correspondence, I said elsewhere Chris is probably an able hack-it so happens that he got this wrong in the opinion of several posters.

If you indeed defend free speech (and Chris has yet to answer the same question to me), why are you rushing in here calling people idiots?
mortonjag 2007-06-19 13:23:38
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 19 2007, 12:53 PM) [snapback]290795[/snapback]
Yet another vote for Sugar Rae.

He's on a roll.

laugh.gif laugh.gif

Aye-it's over 15% now-'m'on the Shooglathos!
mortonjag 2007-06-19 13:25:49
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 19 2007, 01:23 PM) [snapback]290809[/snapback]
There have been 6 updates on the the Official Web Site's club news in the last 7 days!

..and as many posts on here in the last 5 minutes RH-but as I'm on the 'huff button' you'll not be replying! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-19 13:27:54
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jun 19 2007, 01:23 PM) [snapback]290810[/snapback]
Sorry , can't help. I've never done an honest days work in my life

ONLY FOOLS AND HORSES WORK

Even the horses have given up as far as I can see!
mortonjag 2007-06-19 17:08:02
QUOTE(Pat SharpTon @ Jun 19 2007, 01:34 PM) [snapback]290818[/snapback]
Very predictable Mortonjag.
I'm not so much criticising your dig at Chris but your whole attitude and vendetta against our chairman. Going off what most people post on here, they feel the same toward you, as you do toward the chairman. Does that not tell you something?

You appear extremely selective in what you read, and have not answered my question.

I never make bald statements like yours, which I've highlighted. I do not have a vendetta against anyone-that comment is reprehensible.

If you can be bothered checking PST, I don't indiscriminitely attack other posters either. I DO, however, take up every challenge. The reasons for people appearing to dislike me and what I post are not quite as simple as you suggest.

Furthermore, I've received several p.m.'s encouraging me to catalyse healthy debate.

Do you endorse freedom of speech?
mortonjag 2007-06-19 17:12:21
QUOTE(Pat SharpTon @ Jun 19 2007, 03:47 PM) [snapback]290871[/snapback]
I can't see how he told people what to do?
Also, your problem is with his writing from what I can gather, not what he wrote on the forum. You've publically attacked his writing on this forum. I was directed to the thread in question. You also claim he is a reason you've stopped buying the Tele. That's not because he posted on this forum.
Also, you haven't justified publishing the PM. He told YOU privately what he thought, based on things you have said. If you claim what is said on the internet doesn't bother you, then why make the PM public at all? Anyway that's between you and him.
As for calling people idiots, I stand by it. Some of the stuff written on here goes beyond points of view and personal opinion. Attacking people, Rae, McInally, other posters and latterly Chris, seems perfectly acceptable and it shouldn't be.

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mortonjag 2007-06-19 17:14:07
QUOTE(Pat SharpTon @ Jun 19 2007, 03:57 PM) [snapback]290877[/snapback]
Does it? Hmmmm. Unusual your first post should concern this matter.

What does he normally put in first post? dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-19 17:19:41
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jun 19 2007, 04:08 PM) [snapback]290882[/snapback]
For what it's worth (very little i suspect);

The article did come across as being a little bit of a speech by DDFR, and the reporter seemed to fully support the comments made. Nothing wrong in that. Nothing wrong in disagreeing with the sentiments either. If MJ, Newton or any other wishes to state their disagreement with the articles - even in a facetious manner - then fair play to them too.

Remember, though, that the guy's only doing his job. Did he really do anything to substantiate such a vitriolic response?

I think the Tele's coverage of Morton is pretty good generally - partly because they seem to have reasonable access to the players and manager. I'm sure they don't want to do anything to jeopardise it.

Yes, they tend to put a fairly positive spin on news from Cappielow, but I'd rather that than negative. So read the Tele with that slant in mind, as I'm sure you would with any other paper.

The voice of reason has spoken.

You may recommence. cool.gif

My dear Trumpet, if you check, you'll find that Mr Fitzgerald came at me with all guns blazing. He even had the audacity to claim that he'd NEVER read anything worthwhile from Mortonjag-now I ask you-wasn't that a little bit provocative-oh and he's still to answer the same question I've put to PST-does he defend free speech?
mortonjag 2007-06-19 17:23:18
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jun 19 2007, 04:15 PM) [snapback]290884[/snapback]
Indeed Youngsa, that' the point, legitimate questions rather that people on this board that "think"or "believe" that something may be afoot with the running of the club, and choose to continually raise these issues that they "think" may be going wrong at the club.

Mack, 'think', 'suspect', 'have good reason to believe' or (in some instances) 'know'-it matters not a jot.

Would you like to define an illegitimate question?
mortonjag 2007-06-19 17:32:51
QUOTE(Pat SharpTon @ Jun 19 2007, 04:18 PM) [snapback]290887[/snapback]
Look, I'm not Chris Fitzgerald, Douglas Rae, Crawford Rae, Jim McInally or Shergar.
I agree with points and disagree with points, just like everyone else on here.
However, nobody is saying that the chairman can't be questioned, just that some of the nasty things said about him could be left on the cutting room floor.
From what I can see on this issue Chris wrote an article, Mortonjag said it wasn't informative, Chris said that wasn't the point of it and then all hell broke loose.
It's been building for a while though. McInally has received personal abuse on here, as has Rae. Some of the stuff said about certain posters is terrible too. There's nothing wrong with debate, but sometimes it seems to get out of control and ceases to be constructive.

I'd like a legal opinion on that PST!

Calling people idiots, and standing by the assertion when invited to retract is typical, IMHO, of someone who wants to decide when things are, and are not 'in control'.

Do you defend free speech?
mortonjag 2007-06-19 17:43:03
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jun 19 2007, 04:24 PM) [snapback]290891[/snapback]
Are you twins? Has he asked for you back up? Has he still not found his dummy!

CF is ONE of the reasons I do not buy the rag, one of many reason. I don't like his style, that is my choice to express, he does cover my beloved Morton after all! But I don't like many of the telegraphs reporters at the moment (well one, but I hope he goes on to better things and doesn't fester in abject boredom)
Why did he choose to call me a racist in private? Is it because his employers would have been unhappy with a public statement? So its ok in your book to privately call someone a racist? I only wish it was in private.
I haven't attacked anyone but CF recently, and I have already explained my reasons.
You back his sentiments up and then finish by saying it has nothing to do with you.
If someone can't stand the heat, well you know the rest.

IMO Barbarossa you were correct in exposing the 'personal message' for what it really was-an extremely immature 'tit for tat' which young Chris didn't imagine for one minute you'd publish, and now we have one of his putative mentors on, suggesting YOU acted immorally.
I've no reason to disbelieve what you say about having 'insider information', and as far as I'm aware you are very discreet on those matters.

It's now beginning to look like 'Tilly paranoia'-surprising from a National Broadsheet of such previously unblemished repute!
mortonjag 2007-06-19 17:49:35
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jun 19 2007, 05:33 PM) [snapback]290935[/snapback]
Mr MabberJabber

Not generally being one to check my facts, I broke the habit of a lifetime and re-read the first few posts. In hindsight, wouldn't you agree that his first post wasn't particularly offensive, although he was clearly offended?

But I wasn't really having a pop at you, Barbarossa, or anyone else because a) it seems to have all got a bit personal; cool.gif it's none of my business; c) You all seem perfectly capable of fighting your own battles.

As for alleging that you never write anything worthwhile, well...........I haven't checked biggrin.gif
edited to remove surplus smilies - how did that get there?

Well he DID-and I'm in the huff-so there! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-19 17:54:50
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Jun 19 2007, 05:39 PM) [snapback]290940[/snapback]
[/size]

Best idea would be to close down the forum for the summer.

Well brassed off with all the wingeing, especially guys like Morton Jag.

[font="Arial Black"][/font][size="4"]

Get a life.....
Foobs

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mortonjag 2007-06-19 17:57:05
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 19 2007, 05:49 PM) [snapback]290947[/snapback]
Oh FFS give it a rest!!!

You were the one that asked for weekly updates on drainage and floodlights of all things. Have you really nothing better to worry about?

There will always be people who moan and moaning that we don't get told about the new drainage system is actually just typical of the sad gits who trawl this forum at all hours of their sad slow dull unfulfilled lives.

Loosely translated, RH is saying 'I know I can't logically defeat your argument, so I'll try to make you look silly'.

And doesn't RH look JUST THAT! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-19 18:00:57
QUOTE(Youngsa @ Jun 19 2007, 05:56 PM) [snapback]290955[/snapback]
Whose definition of what is a legitimate question should be used then? - mine, yours Dougies, MortonJags? As far as I'm concerned all questions regarding the running of the club are legitimate. If Dougie chooses to say its none of your business then thats up to him as the major shareholder. But as the second part of my post that you quote states - where would we be if the legitimate questions had not been asked of Hugh Scott?

Deviating slightly we can now see from past experiences in Scottish football where a chairman who thought he knew best, with a great business and money to burn thought he could do it all himself. The result was administration and the self same chairman is now a more humble man, actively seeking further investment in his club while staying as the controlling shareholder.

I give you John Boyle and Motherwell FC. There are too many similarities for my liking and takes me back to my original thoughts on our esteemed chairman - one man, one opinion and too much power - its unhealthy for the club.

SPOT ON IMO
mortonjag 2007-06-19 18:03:53
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jun 19 2007, 05:57 PM) [snapback]290958[/snapback]
I find myself in complete agreement with the 'jag.
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As for knowing some of the goings on at Cappielow that is because I am simply a nosey b*****d tongue.gif and my run of info goes all the way back to my school days. (I can put a bet on with DDF that I had more access to Benny Rooney's dressing room than ANY board member tongue.gif and I was only 10 at the time.).
I have seen and been made aware of things that would make a reporter positively cream him/herself.
I keep in touch with those in the know and Morton are not the only club or organisation I have information on which is not public knowledge.
But having said all that my info is mostly not for public consumption so rightly I keep it to myself until such time, if there is a time, when I can divulge any of it. If people had listened to my warnings SIX months before HS interest in Morton even bacame public knowledge we may not have had to experience that sorry episode.

A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest!
mortonjag 2007-06-19 18:06:07
QUOTE(theyorkshirepudding @ Jun 19 2007, 05:51 PM) [snapback]290949[/snapback]
After saying he was joining East Fife because he wanted to be closer to his Tayside home our former custodian has now done a u-turn and is joining St Mirren as player-coach.

East Fife have agreed to let him go after negotiating compensation with the manky mob.

'Professional footballer seeks to enhance his career'-or is that just naughty 'spin'?
mortonjag 2007-06-19 18:10:40
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 19 2007, 05:05 PM) [snapback]290919[/snapback]
You have proof that he's not? smile.gif

Amen Bro'.

Though being a right wing mad dog I do also subscribe to the old latin tag
(pretentious latin quote warning)

He who desires a piece must prepare his belly?
mortonjag 2007-06-19 18:12:20
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 19 2007, 05:08 PM) [snapback]290923[/snapback]
anything that gets the effigy-burners out on the streets (again) has to be worthwhile. not that i think his work is worthwhile, i tried to read midnight's children not long after the fatwah and i felt like murdering the pretentious w**k myself.

Pretentious w*nk throttled by manky dog.
mortonjag 2007-06-19 18:18:11
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 19 2007, 05:12 PM) [snapback]290925[/snapback]
Don't be daft. I won a MERCEDES, not a BMW.

...not the new 7 litre V48 with triple turbo, intercooler, and drogue chute Alibi-I raced one away from the lights yesterday, and burned out the clutch on 'Moby'!

Still, I left the c*nt standing!
mortonjag 2007-06-19 18:20:44
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 19 2007, 04:41 PM) [snapback]290903[/snapback]
I assume you mean SavoTheGreat on there, and not our very own Savo. rolleyes.gif

I don't have anyone on ignore, used to have 3 or 4 but found myself reading their posts anyway! Am I the only one that hasn't had Mortonjag on ignore?

NO
mortonjag 2007-06-19 18:24:47 I sympathise with the Mods rolleyes.gif

No really I do-but when you can't talk of the Scots, for example, as a 'b a s t a r d' Nation-a totally accepted term, it does become silly, and there are numerous similar examples-e.g. c***roach!
mortonjag 2007-06-20 05:40:28 I sense a not so subtle suggestion that nepotism and lack of perception seem to have jeopardised our promotion chances last season.

For what it's worth, I believe Mathers was signed at the right time for the right reasons.

That seems to indicate I'm

SUPPORTING SHOOGLY


AND JM


Is that permissible? It may mean certain posters will offload aggression elsewhere today.

Will I be an accessory to crime if some poor poosy gets kicked for nothing? dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-20 05:43:38
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jun 19 2007, 07:00 PM) [snapback]291029[/snapback]
laugh.gif

I don't remember marrying you blink.gif

Anyway, enough tomfoolery. It's now over 48 hours since you promised some affirmitive action and still no signs of progress on the article, time you got down to work. We don't want people thinking you're all bluff now do we? tongue.gif

I don't remember promising anything Scrotum-what is it you'd like me to do?

I can't GUESS your reply!
mortonjag 2007-06-20 05:45:39
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 19 2007, 11:35 PM) [snapback]291275[/snapback]
It hasn't been altered.

Season tickets only went up approx £20, just over a quid a game, so why would admission prices go up by £2 ??

It was mentioned when the season tickets went on sale that gate prices would probably only be going up a quid.

WELL DONE MR RAE
mortonjag 2007-06-20 05:51:09
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 19 2007, 11:31 PM) [snapback]291272[/snapback]
Who's a full back ?

I would never even consider playing Ryan Russell as a wing back. He looks like an out and out left winger to me. Similar to Murray in that he wants to run at people except Murray's about a million times better.

We desperately lacked proper wing play last season-Jimbo is a dead loss as a 'left winger', Russell didn't figure, and we've no right winger so far as I know.

It's not the priority, but other things in place, he'd have been an excellent signing.

I've got to say Thistle are showing signs of making a real challenge for the SPL.
mortonjag 2007-06-20 05:58:21 Guess I'm showing my age here-WTF does it matter-I'd buy them from poundstretcher so long as they had blue and white hoops, AND the name of a sponsor who will splash some real dosh.
mortonjag 2007-06-20 06:02:25
QUOTE(JackiD @ Jun 20 2007, 12:37 AM) [snapback]291336[/snapback]
I get .... included in an official team photograph..... appear as a squad member in the Programme on the kit Sponsors' Page AND,,,,,,,, run out with the team , and receive half time hospitality at the first home match next season (that's as well as the full home kit and season ticket)...... I'ts a hard life.......Jxxx

... do you also get to sit on JM's knee? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-20 06:06:33
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 19 2007, 07:23 PM) [snapback]291041[/snapback]
so people are still complaining about their precious threads going off-topic? this is why the forum split in two during eddie's time, and they're still not happy. i voted no on all counts, by the way. it doesn't take much effort to scroll past newton and mortonjag's crap, and that's hardly a reason to dictate to people what they can and can't say about a topic. this is the internet, not an oxbridge debating chamber.

i can see where this is going and i don't like it. it's the complainers who are dictating the direction of this messageboard, and complainers are dicks.

Wholeheartedly agree with your points! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-20 06:08:20
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 19 2007, 07:38 PM) [snapback]291051[/snapback]
I was just about to post something along the same lines as LCM, the reason this site and its predecessors have been successful is that quasi-intellectuals, anoraks, headbangers, club moles, boo-boys and brown-nosers all have an open forum where they can exchange opinions and often digress whilst admin quietly happened in the background keeping things real. I think i'm gonna follow suit and ignore a couple of arses, namely NewTon, Mortonjag and Sick Mick, like a few others have already done.

What i would like to see is an amnesty on crap signatures, some of them are OTT and a bit intrusive, or just plain annoying, but if it doesnt happen, i wouldnt care too much.

All i can really say is you have a winning formula, dont balls it up with too many rules.

f***in' sexual snob. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-20 06:10:59
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jun 19 2007, 08:51 PM) [snapback]291093[/snapback]
Not overly keen on the idea of over controlling the content of any thread and the idea that we should start to get precious over 'ownership' is a bit sad.

Plenty of threads on here benefit from tangents due to their soul crushing dullness.

OH c'mon man-'If you've got it-

FLAUNT IT
mortonjag 2007-06-20 06:17:50
QUOTE(tontastic @ Jun 19 2007, 09:17 PM) [snapback]291135[/snapback]
I think there may be a problem if people are dissuaded from sharing their opinions on the forums because of other people's behaviours on their threads or in reaction to their posts. I think a good forum is one in which any morton fan can participate and engage in meaningful debate.

I'm not disagreeing with you. If the majority of folk think that the current situation is fine then i am sure that Edinton would be happy to carry on as is so far as structure and guidelines on threads.

What i want is more people/Morton fans posting or reading the forum. I want to know if there is a consensus or majority who share my opinion that more people on the forum would be a good thing. If so, do they think that anything could be changed to encourage those new users.

Having typed the following it looks pretty crap, the numbers are made up, but i just wanted to express what *i* think is the best combination, with power users, frequent posters, and irregular posters making up a large number of posters who can all share their opinions. What do we need to do to encourage that healthy mix?

Worst: 5 people sharing their opinion 500 times a week. (5 x 500)

Better: Same 5 people (5 x 500) PLUS 25 people sharing their opinion 100 times a week (25 x 100)

Best: Same (5 x 500) + (25 x 100) + 125 people sharing their opinion 20 time a week (125 x 20)

Ultimate: Same (5 x 500) + (25 x 100) + (125 x 20) + 500 people sharing their opinion 5 times a week (500 x 5)

This is what might be described simply as attempted censorship. Without ownership and moderation the forum would be defunct, but it's freedom of thought and opinion expressed however much or little by the individual posters, which ensures its ongoing viability.
mortonjag 2007-06-20 06:22:07
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jun 19 2007, 09:49 PM) [snapback]291173[/snapback]
Yes
no
no

Leave well enough alone, as my granny used to say.

The general pish, abusive pish and meandering pish can be just as entertaining as any other pish posted on here.

Long live the pish.

VIVE LE PISS



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mortonjag 2007-06-20 06:25:32
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 19 2007, 09:57 PM) [snapback]291190[/snapback]
anyone going to knockhill for the superbikes ?

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mortonjag 2007-06-20 06:29:14
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 19 2007, 11:47 PM) [snapback]291290[/snapback]
I went for the
no
no
no
I think its another over reaction to what gets said on here . I think we need to all calm it with the oversensitivity .
Keep the forum as it is , how else would DDFR be able to keep an eye on us all .

Massive YES vote and hardly one comment-indeed has there EVEN been one-from the 'YES' boys?

Yet again the negativity boys are at it-to quote someone whose name I don't recall at the moment-'they're never happier than when they're having a moan'!

Yours Aye

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mortonjag 2007-06-20 06:32:09
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 20 2007, 12:39 AM) [snapback]291338[/snapback]
I'm just concerned that he may overlook a thread that we're having a good old moan at and he is unable to share his thoughts about it in the local paper . Afterall we have an image to keep up if we are to maintain our 'RAG' status . sad.gif

We don't want to miss out on

ROTY

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mortonjag 2007-06-20 06:49:05
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 20 2007, 06:35 AM) [snapback]291360[/snapback]
I know this is right off topic but chrissiboi I nearly popped in to share a dram of a malt yesterday but I got a feeling you passed by me when I was turning the car. blink.gif

Sorry to keep things off topic-maybe he saw you coming! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-20 06:51:12
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 20 2007, 06:36 AM) [snapback]291361[/snapback]
I've got to say Thistle are showing signs of making a real challenge for the SPL.
more sedition ?

MOI



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mortonjag 2007-06-20 06:52:40
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 20 2007, 06:50 AM) [snapback]291364[/snapback]
Or maybe it was just the fact I had Robert Bruce in the car along with me. laugh.gif

Do you think the all new SNHS will meet demand? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-20 07:00:35
QUOTE(HamCam @ Jun 19 2007, 09:13 PM) [snapback]291128[/snapback]
I never found the need until the Mortonjag - NewTon luv in arrived on the scene. I now find it a most useful function as I do not require to wade through post after post of pretentious tedious drivel to view posts that may be of interest.

wub.gifStrange thing is I share many of Mortonjag's concerns with life at Cappielow. Thankfully I share nothing in common with NewTon.

Please feel free to put me on ignore - it happens all the time to me in real life.

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mortonjag 2007-06-20 07:04:56
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 19 2007, 08:24 PM) [snapback]291081[/snapback]
I agree totally, I also find anonymous people quite creepy, why the need to go that way with such an openminded forum! unsure.gif

Those anonymous people scare the s*** out of me Loyal Lass-when you see the abuse a gentle old soul has to take from so called fellow posters, is it any wonder my Rotweiler's on a body building course?
mortonjag 2007-06-20 07:08:49
QUOTE(Loveless @ Jun 20 2007, 12:35 AM) [snapback]291335[/snapback]
Jesus Christ, I was only taking the piss, after the whole "War and Peace" thing.

I empathise LL-sometimes they can be so petty!

BTW less of the blasphemy! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-20 07:11:45
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 20 2007, 06:55 AM) [snapback]291367[/snapback]
I think it will do better than the last one. tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2007-06-20 07:18:41 Of the 15% who think the manager or Chairman will be the most important factor, only a few rate JM higher than Shoogly.

75% think it's mainly down to the players-that seems obvious, but I still firmly believe we need a 'Leader'.
mortonjag 2007-06-20 07:26:14 In today's 'Herald', Mark McGhee announces his new signing, and says that next season he wants teams to leave Fir Park feeling 'Beaten up'.

Maybe if we'd had that attitude last season we wouldn't have 'scrambled' over the line.

The first division is pretty tough physically-we've got decent players-we just need attitude and a morsel of thuggery.
mortonjag 2007-06-20 08:15:38 I know this place well, having had to attend when 'on call'.

Living conditions are atrocious and don't compare to even the most basic of the old Local Authority accommodation for the homeless. '

The Landlord has a reputation going back umpteen years for running this sort of dump.

No marks to Inverclyde Council for more than trebling referrals in the last year.

mortonjag 2007-06-20 08:42:44
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ Jun 20 2007, 08:30 AM) [snapback]291375[/snapback]
Greece wink.gif

'MagPIES'.
mortonjag 2007-06-20 09:14:16
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 20 2007, 08:58 AM) [snapback]291377[/snapback]
Link please

Not sure how to MidTONs -maybe you could p.m. me with instructions as I've often wanted to post re a 'link'.

Just google 'the herald', and it will offer you 'Glasgow's broadsheet etc., etc.,

click on that and you'll see a summary of today's news.
mortonjag 2007-06-20 09:34:12
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jun 20 2007, 09:27 AM) [snapback]291382[/snapback]
But surely John Boyle spend way over budget, figures that he could not sustain - where is the similarity. I apprecaite that Mr Rae has too shore up the club with personal/business income on a annual basis, but surely he is doing this wiothin his means at present.

Mortonjag also confuses me here - on one hand he says that Mr Rae is not spending enough of his sweetie money on the Ton, now there is a problem because he is like John Boyle. I am somewhat confused.

On the one man too much power argument - do we not have a board that includes representation from the Trust (second largest share holder) and Arthur Montoford (Morton Fan) and Crawford Rae (Morton Fan).
As I have said many times - Our Chairman & Board will make mistakes (as we all will) but 1. What would you prefer at the moment i.e. who should replace Mr Rae 2. What (outside of the Youth System is currently so wrong at Morton (Facts please).

A few seasons ago I stood at Recreation Park (amoung very few other Ton fans) and watched what I thought may be Greenock Morton FC play there last game in the Scottish League. On 4th August 2007 I will watch Greenock Morton FC kick of there new campaign in the Scottish 1st Division. I for one believe that a good number of our Loyal Fans and the current Board have acheived this massive step forward and I will therefore put my trust (for now) in the Current Chaiman and his Board - yes I will continue to discuss issues that concern me at the Club I have supported (and followed) since 1976, but until I see good reason to lambast the current incumbent of the Chairmans office he will have my trust that he his working for the good of Greenock Morton FC.

As I have said, Yes mistakes will be made, yes ill advised comments will be made and as far as I can see the same can be said for virtually every club in Scotland.

We are grateful to Mr Rae-I certainly am. I have not equated him to Boyle financially, nor have I accused him of not spending enough, though I HAVE questioned how much he's now able/willing to spend.

It appears that the other board members say very little. Perhaps Dougie listens to them behind the scenes-who knows-but the public perception is that he makes the decisions.

Your statement at the end is true-that should spur us to better things IMO.



mortonjag 2007-06-20 12:05:14
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jun 20 2007, 09:51 AM) [snapback]291384[/snapback]
Fair point - I will have a word with him about that oversight

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mortonjag 2007-06-20 12:20:25
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Jun 20 2007, 11:22 AM) [snapback]291415[/snapback]
Parma Ham

Empoli Cheese....

Kidderminster
mortonjag 2007-06-20 12:27:47
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 20 2007, 11:58 AM) [snapback]291431[/snapback]
As always i'm not sure if you're being sarcastic 'jag, but here ya go...

When you are in the reply area, click the icon with a green + next to what looks like a green A leaning over... (i've attached it below). Hovering your mouse pointer over the various buttons tells you what they all do.

It asks you for the full URL...copy in the address from the address bar in your browser, press ok, then type in the text you would like the link to 'hide behind'.

Like this.

Or you can highlight some text then press the link icon...

Here to help rolleyes.gif

Mr Edinton, the sad fact is that I have to deal with so much 'flak' on a daily basis. As a result this gentle old soul has the same problem!

Indeed I was higgorant-many thanks, and I'll try the instructions fairly soon I'm sure.


Just goes to show that absolute perfection eludes even the most mightily endowed of mortals! wink.gif



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Geezo Sir-you're a jeanie arse! wub.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-20 12:45:55
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 20 2007, 11:47 AM) [snapback]291424[/snapback]
I did a module at Uni called 'Computers and Society' and my coursework was based on this kind of discussion, i.e. do video games cause violence in society.

Manhunt was one of the main examples I used, and this quote in particular was similar to one I used in the final essay....
One conclusion I used was that there is a generational divide between those that play games regularly - and generally have done as long as they can remember - and those that don't. The older generations have seen these new technologies/fads/games etc explode into popular culture and its a culture and language that they don't understand....and guess which generation most of the censors are from? If playing violent video games causes people to turn into murderers then we'd all be at it.

It's difficult to conduct a fully conclusive study into the effects of playing violent games, but the University of Illinois tried....and found no link

AH-that explains why I'm so misunderstood-I shall obtain a console and some pirate copies forthwith.

This generational divide is a BAD thing IMHO! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-20 12:51:09
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 20 2007, 12:25 PM) [snapback]291442[/snapback]
That's the one!!

Just add Vikington ( Mortonjag's Mini me) to the list and you have a sensible well rounded forum full of interesting well balanced people!
well kind of rolleyes.gif

Real Hoops-the unthinking man's answer to equilibrium. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-20 12:56:24
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 20 2007, 12:22 PM) [snapback]291439[/snapback]
On Friday I transferred money from my Nationwide account into my Royal Bank account. It is shown as having been withdrawn from nationwide on Friday, but still hasn't appeared in my RBS account and it's now Wednesday. This seems a bit ridiculous, given that you can pay instantly online using a switch/debit card. Had I just gone into the RBS and written a cheque drawn on the NW acount, it would have shown up the same day albeit the funds might need to wait a couple of days to be cleared. Clearly this is a scam by the banks to hold money without paying interest on it - I thought they had agreed to stop this scam some time ago.

SCAM-Alibi-naw banks don't do scams-ask ThornTON and his pals.

It's probably just been a wee slip-phone the manager of your local branch, (you'll have his business card and personal number somewhere) and he'll fix it immediately, probably sticking 10% extra in the account as a goodwill gesture.

Banking those days is all about customer service-you should be grateful for that-I know by the way-I've seen all those adverts on the telly.
mortonjag 2007-06-20 13:09:50
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 20 2007, 12:19 PM) [snapback]291436[/snapback]
One of the Bouncers at the Jimmy told me that their security company is crying out for people...no idea what the company is called though.

Anyone else hear of this?

No more tears Ltd
mortonjag 2007-06-20 13:11:42
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 20 2007, 12:29 PM) [snapback]291448[/snapback]
those two might have been total nutters, but didn't i just love them playing for the ton. i don't even like any of the current team.

Deano dun well.
mortonjag 2007-06-20 13:14:00
QUOTE(gorkir @ Jun 20 2007, 12:31 PM) [snapback]291449[/snapback]
what a daft poll
all we are voting on is a name

You miss the point Sir-it's a GENTEEL poll.

Far to much controversy those days I'm told! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-20 13:27:08
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 20 2007, 01:21 PM) [snapback]291468[/snapback]
Are there no jobs going where you work?

I'd assume it's the place where they make up the sh*te jokes that go inside Christmas Crackers?

Naw Mick YOU'RE the joke that comes inside some 'Cracker's sh*te. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-20 13:33:17
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 20 2007, 08:58 AM) [snapback]291377[/snapback]
Link please

If you're still interested the link's on Edinton's post.
mortonjag 2007-06-20 13:36:15
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 20 2007, 01:31 PM) [snapback]291471[/snapback]
http://www.saynoto0870.com/

Good for when you have to contact banks, service providers, etc. Especially if you just pay a flat fee for 01 and 02 numbers.

Many thanks HT-I see you've been posted missing for a week-welcome back. Gentility is encouraged on our forums! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-20 13:45:54
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 20 2007, 01:39 PM) [snapback]291476[/snapback]
No free lunch. The drug reps would have loved you.

Oh HT, I wasn't averse to their 'benevolence' of many an evening, but on principal I never strayed from duty throughout a working day, which in my case was from 7.15 a.m., when I left home, 'til 6.45 p.m. when I returned. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-20 13:47:32 Towcester
mortonjag 2007-06-20 13:51:21
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 20 2007, 01:48 PM) [snapback]291479[/snapback]
See lunchtime thread.

PS I owe you an apology. I was at UoG yesterday, however, did not have time to meet for a coffee. I will get that invite out (eventually).

TY. BTW will I recognise you from the avatar picture-you'll have no difficulty in spotting this monkey! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-20 19:45:33
QUOTE(grnklad2006ton @ Jun 20 2007, 07:09 PM) [snapback]291552[/snapback]
Just wanted to know if its just me or is anyone else getting fed up with the amount of posts being put on here about this player being released and that player being released ? everytime i come on this site its always about could this one do a job or that one do a job when the reality is that none of them are coming to morton. Anyone else wish that posts about signings should be made when and if only a player is signing. Iv seen about ten posts on here in the last 2 weeks regarding players and all the people are saying is that should this player be worth a look. I think JM has his own players in mind well so he says, not the daft crap that is said on here, Craig Dargo, Stephen Glass, Twigg, and on and on and on. Dream on or save it till we have at least signed one player please god blink.gif

Andy Ritchie is over the hill and can hardly run-ThornTON will no doubt confirm.
mortonjag 2007-06-20 19:49:55
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 20 2007, 07:16 PM) [snapback]291558[/snapback]
Chum?

He's descended from the green oak tree actually.
mortonjag 2007-06-20 19:53:11
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jun 20 2007, 05:57 PM) [snapback]291514[/snapback]
Nike, but you'd really need to see a like for like comparison to make it fair.

I say Nike as I like the many strips that I have that were made by Nike.

Joseph ThornTON! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-20 19:54:49 Leave it up to the folk in charge-then we can all decide!
mortonjag 2007-06-20 19:59:54
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jun 20 2007, 07:26 PM) [snapback]291572[/snapback]
The thing that's starting to concern me the most is the continued use of the word "negativity" which seems to have caught on at the club and is being used to describe any views which don't correspond with the manager's or chairman's. This started some months back when Jim McInally started using it in the press.

I believe constant use of such a word actually creates negativity, and it appears it has done when Dougie Rae, one of the most enthuiastic and positive thinking people I have met, has jumped on the manager's negativity bandwagon. The Telegraph and Posters on this messageboard have also started using it to put down people with different views, even if they are of the constructive critisism variety.

I put this down to a sort of "wish fulfilment" on Jim McInally's part, or a transference of his own negativity to create an impression that he is the positive one, and everyone who expresses a different view is therefore being negative. I'm not sure if this is deliberate as I think this happens mostly subconciously. I wonder if our signing targets have also picked this up from various newspaper articles, though surely not directly from the manager himself.

When you look at the views expressed by most fans seen as critical, on this board, in the telegraph or elsewhere, they are mostly about having high ambitions, expectations or high demands for the club. I would say this should be regarded as positive thinking rather than negative.

Fans of all football clubs want the best for their clubs and it's something the management of the club have to be able to handle.

DOT I'm sorely tempted to disagree with you-that way you'd be GUARANTEED credibility! dry.gif dry.gif

I won't, because that's one of the most insightful posts for some time IMO.
mortonjag 2007-06-20 20:01:32
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 20 2007, 07:31 PM) [snapback]291576[/snapback]
we didn't have to put up with this crap from forfar.

Bridie couldn't type.
mortonjag 2007-06-20 20:10:08 Banks don't do 'goodwill gestutes'-the f*cking chancers are at it. The reason they've given you a telephone number is almost certainly to cover their own arses and suggests to me they know damned well you've a right to refund.

It's just a game. Some relatively poorly paid person will be sitting at that 'phone with clear instructions about how much can be refunded to 'shut you up', and if you're not happy with a full refund, will still be obliged to pass you 'up the line'.

That's how it works. Stick to your guns.
mortonjag 2007-06-20 20:19:18
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 20 2007, 05:04 PM) [snapback]291496[/snapback]
F*cking Hell! Honestly, you're getting even worse - they'll have you demoted to lolly-sticks soon.

'Lolly stick'-hmm

I'm starting to grow jolly sick
of Inverclyde's young 'wolly' Mick.
Between masturbations
he mocks my vocation-
I'll hit him with my 'lolly stick'. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-20 20:22:54
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 20 2007, 07:11 PM) [snapback]291553[/snapback]
What have you got against Old folk and Tenements owners like myself tongue.gif

They leave rubber marks in the close with their walking sticks.
mortonjag 2007-06-20 20:27:13
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 20 2007, 08:24 PM) [snapback]291625[/snapback]
And they talk s***e and smell of pish.

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...unlike some posters on this forum who talk pish and smell of sh*te. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-20 20:28:31
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 20 2007, 08:26 PM) [snapback]291626[/snapback]
In your case should that not have read 'we leave rubber marks in the close with our walking sticks.'?

My close is carpeted, and I have full access on Moby, thank you.
mortonjag 2007-06-20 20:32:20
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 20 2007, 08:22 PM) [snapback]291619[/snapback]
Jobs available?
Stick to topic! mad.gif
Forby, your limerick doesn't quite work.

You disappoint me. Learn how to scan a Limerick-it works perfectly-just like everything I construct. wink.gif

Would you like a summer job as an apprentice wordsmith-no previous experience required-full board and lodging, and if you're very lucky the missus may let you brush the poosy.
mortonjag 2007-06-21 05:32:13
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jun 20 2007, 11:45 PM) [snapback]291686[/snapback]
why do we continue to encourage the doctor mortonjag, the guy is so far up his own arse its not real. everyone on the site knows this guy just spouts p1sh, with no real creedance in his allegations or claims. I've got nothing against the guy personally he has an opinion but there are some things he should put to bed and keep them there ie the majority of his p1sh. his personal attacks and opinions about individuals on this board is a disgrace. Try and change your attitude mj...............that will be all.

Mortonjag provides excellent therapy for many posters who are safely able to unleash their bitterness on HER and patch up their chipped shoulders.

Is Mortonjag REALLY a doctor-after all, 'he's so far up his own arse, and just spouts pish?

Do you personally know this 'doctor' against whom you've 'got nothing personally'? rolleyes.gif

Does Mortonjag HAVE an 'attitude' which SHE should change?

Seems to Mortonjag that 'attitudes' are regularly and consistently displayed by the 'Shooglyphiles', and Board's 'Holy Willies'.


Vive la difference.
mortonjag 2007-06-21 05:34:36
QUOTE(Robert the Bruce @ Jun 21 2007, 12:46 AM) [snapback]291720[/snapback]
Nike is much better in design Bukta is f***ing pish simple as.

You will be kissing Dougies arse next.

When do the season tickets come out?

No way am I queueing.
mortonjag 2007-06-21 05:40:57
QUOTE(Robert the Bruce @ Jun 21 2007, 12:54 AM) [snapback]291722[/snapback]
Usual pish on here from all the bawbags and no doubt one of them will be the first to go off topic.

Its more like censorship than anything else.

'Should steps be taken to discourage threads going off topic'?


IMO almost every 'decent' thread wanders off topic and comes back on again, because it generates interest. In that respect threads are 'self policing'.

Should steps be taken to discourage 'silly threads'.

NO WAY-that TOO would be censorship.
mortonjag 2007-06-21 05:47:46
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 20 2007, 10:25 PM) [snapback]291651[/snapback]
Your limerick is lyrically and rythmically inept. tongue.gif

Mortonjag begs to differ young sir-the lyrics may be not to your juvenile taste, but I take exception to your comment on my rhythm.

I've applied the 'rhythm method' to my creative activities all my life-in some forty odd years it's only let me down half a dozen times! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-21 06:04:42
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 20 2007, 08:38 PM) [snapback]291643[/snapback]
yes, compromise is indeed the answer, failing that............................... have sex with their dug. Wont help the situation a great deal , but hey !

Good morning young cloth ears-that's a bit immoderate methinks!

Sex with the neighbour's Chiwawa is a no go-the bloody thing's got fleas.

Fudge packer-naw-not for all the cash in that Golden Casket.

I prefer it the old fashioned way, and when they've served their purpose I re-stock the freezer with mutton, or pork.

mortonjag 2007-06-21 06:10:09
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 21 2007, 05:36 AM) [snapback]291733[/snapback]
AND on the Tele website.

FAME AT LAST

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TWO scrotums (shouldn't it be scrota?) in one picture!

Cawston may be put out! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-21 06:35:46 Nice pic in the Tilly of two nice guys-good to see the Ton in non controversial publication-but wait-that one on the left-I could SWEAR I saw his face on a 'Wanted' poster recently! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-21 06:42:48
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 21 2007, 06:37 AM) [snapback]291741[/snapback]
Listen am still on Eastern Europe time, why the hell are you up at this so early?

It's nearly seven o'clock and it's f*ckin' midsummers day Sean. I always get up before five in the Summer, and in the Winter I hibernate!
mortonjag 2007-06-21 06:47:01
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 21 2007, 06:42 AM) [snapback]291742[/snapback]
It was the one on the right, not wanted by the Army for being a s***e bag, " I did my first jump when I was 16, never again" rolleyes.gif

Ah-well it makes a slight difference from the 'when did you pop your cherry' type thread which entertains the board's weans!

I've done all sorts of crazy things in my life, but I'd NEVER do a parachute jump-even doing one must take balls!
mortonjag 2007-06-21 07:51:11
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 21 2007, 06:52 AM) [snapback]291745[/snapback]
AHHH mid-summers day, the longest day of the year!!! So if you get up at 5am when do you go to your kip?

Being a ex-Doc do u have plenty of happy pills? to keep you going?
(ok ok maybe not happy pills, you are MJ after all, maybe keep awake pills)
I met a stuck up Scottish Politian on my flight home, so famous I canny even mind who he was, I need to look him up
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That sums them all up!!

I'm normally in bed by ten or ten thirty and only need five or six hours sleep. I worked constant night shift for eight years Sean, before retirement, and could get by on four or five hours during the day.

I don't take pills, but the weather has a huge effect on me-I suffer from SAD syndrome-happy as a sandboy when it's sunny, and get quite 'down' in the long dreary winter days-it's a fairly common condition to a greater or lesser degree.

mortonjag 2007-06-21 08:00:10
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 21 2007, 07:51 AM) [snapback]291746[/snapback]
Well seen my quote was not used when I was asked about doing a jump, although I think 'feck that' would have fitted in well with that article.

Now this IS meant to be light hearted MidTONs-couldn't we persuade Shoogly to join them in that jump-he could paint 'Millions' on his chute, and when he was about twenty seconds out, he could start his commentary and hit the ground running.

C'mon Dougie-are you UP for it?
mortonjag 2007-06-21 08:07:11
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 20 2007, 08:22 PM) [snapback]291619[/snapback]
Jobs available?
Stick to topic! mad.gif
Forby, your limerick doesn't quite work.

An aspirant bard-VikingTon
has rubbished my verse, whereupon
I've written words drastic to Mr Tontastic,
and soon the young prat will be gone! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-21 09:02:20
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 21 2007, 08:37 AM) [snapback]291758[/snapback]
laugh.gif I'm sure he would be up for it.

C'mon then-what are you waiting for-it's an excellent marketing opportunity for him and the possibilities are endless-he could throw out lucky tickets for a massive prize draw--- and sweeties and 'Fings'.
mortonjag 2007-06-21 09:09:45
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jun 21 2007, 08:07 AM) [snapback]291753[/snapback]
stop talking s***e

QUOTE(mortonjag @ Jun 21 2007, 05:32 AM) *
Mortonjag provides excellent therapy for many posters who are safely able to unleash their bitterness on HER and patch up their chipped shoulders.

PROOF POSITIVE



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mortonjag 2007-06-21 09:22:27
QUOTE(GreatKingRat @ Jun 21 2007, 09:16 AM) [snapback]291761[/snapback]
Also, vikingTON, stop using Internet Explorer and get Firefox.

Much more user friendly.
mortonjag 2007-06-21 09:37:17
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jun 21 2007, 09:30 AM) [snapback]291764[/snapback]
Would love to do a parachute jump, but last time I asked the gentleman pointed out that first timers have to do a tandem jump, and I would break his back and/or legs, including my own with my rather weighty frame. (I'm just big boned). unsure.gif

Russell Steele = Good Guy biggrin.gif
get Dooogly on that plane, now that would be impressive, our grand old chairman swooshing in with tannoy in hand. tongue.gif

That would by- pass the Tilly and be on the sports pages of every Glasgow based paper-fantastic publicity opportunity, and potential money spinner-not to be missed IMO.

TON CHAIRMAN DROPS IN


Morton will unveil their 2nd division championship flag in style as Chairman and lifelong fan, Douglas Rae, parachutes into the centre of Cappielow park tomorrow. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-21 09:45:55
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 21 2007, 09:28 AM) [snapback]291763[/snapback]
For some time many of us have wondered just who is Jack Schitt?

We find ourselves at a loss when someone says, "You don't know Jack Schitt!" Well, thanks to my genealogy efforts, you can now respond in an intellectual way. Jack Schitt is the only son of Awe Schitt.
Awe Schitt, the fertilizer magnate, married O. Schitt, the owner of Needeep N. Schitt, Inc. They had one son, Jack.

In turn, Jack Schitt married Noe Schitt. JimmyMc

The deeply religious couple produced six children: Holie Schitt, Giva Schitt, Fulla Schitt, Bull Schitt, and the twins Deap Schitt and Dip Schitt.

Against her parents wishes, Deap Schitt married Dumb Schitt, a high school dropout. After being married 15 years, Jack and Noe Schitt divorced.

Noe Schitt later married Ted Sherlock, and, because her kids were living with them, she wanted to keep her previous name. She was then known as Noe Schitt Sherlock. Meanwhile, Dip Schitt married Loda Schitt, and they produced a son with a rather nervous disposition named Chicken Schitt.

Two of the other six children, Fulla Schitt and Giva Schitt, were inseparable throughout childhood and subsequently married the Happens brothers in a dual ceremony.

The wedding announcement in the newspaper announced the Schitt-Happens nuptials. The Schitt-Happens children were Dawg, Byrd, and Hoarse. Bull Schitt, the prodigal son, left home to tour the world.

He recently returned from Italy with his new Italian bride, Pisa Schitt. Now when someone says, "You don't know Jack Schitt," you can correct them. Sincerely, Crock O. Schitt
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Where he made his money as the notorious fraudster Hard Schitt.
mortonjag 2007-06-21 09:52:05
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 21 2007, 09:45 AM) [snapback]291767[/snapback]
Looks like Mathers is staying at Bayview
http://www.thecourier.co.uk/output/2007/06...ry9887455t0.asp


theyorkshirepudding


After saying he was joining East Fife because he wanted to be closer to his Tayside home our former custodian has now done a u-turn and is joining St Mirren as player-coach.

East Fife have agreed to let him go after negotiating compensation with the manky mob.


Does the Courier know more than the Tilly? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-21 12:29:41
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 21 2007, 10:59 AM) [snapback]291788[/snapback]
Without causing a fight or another 15 pages of Mortonjag's Us v Them pish can I just ask where you heard or read the dig that Rae made at the fans?

Do you mean the dig at pay at the gate fans, because I cannot see how anyone can see what he said as a dig. It obviously helps the club for customers to pay up front and just like any business he is hoping more money is paid up front but he doesn't slag off or moan about fans who choose not to.
Where is the dig that you refer to. ?

That wouldn't happen to be a 'Dig', let alone a deliberate attempt to rekindle the issue- would it you silly child? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-21 12:46:52
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jun 21 2007, 12:21 PM) [snapback]291835[/snapback]
sorry if i got the gender wrong if that is the case, come to think of it you do moan like a woman so I should really have known. no obviously i dont know you personally and whilst i may not agree with a lot of your posts, i unlike you do not get bitchy with people who do not agree whole heartedly with my opinion. I do not get personal or make personal attacks on other posters, i really do not have anything against any posters on this forum.

Whilst you and others may not agree with DDFR and his way of doing things he is the best we have and until maybe you and some of your doctor chums get together to buy the club and show what you can do it stays the same. look forward to hearing back from you with baited breath.

I'm not really sure of which gender Mortonjag is AJC, nor of which his alter ego -the Monkey- is, for that matter.

His wee photie's on the left if you'd like to get out the electron microscope you normally use for Mortonjag's posts, and 'scrute for a scrote' or lack thereof.

To the best of Mortonjag's knowledge, Mortonjag has categorically NEVER INITIATED a pesonal attack, or 'bitch fest'.

Mortonjag upholds freedom of speech and diversity of opinion. Mortonjag and the Monkey are fierce opponents of those who do not.

Your last paragraph interests Mortonjag. Has the club come up for sale? Has Mr Rae breathed his last?

Mortonjag awaits your response as he/she/it sits on the unisex toilet pan pondering a monumental load of keech. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-21 12:48:42
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jun 21 2007, 12:33 PM) [snapback]291847[/snapback]
funnily enough, like the murphys im not bitter and the only chip ive got is on a roll with gravy right now with loads of other chips.
im just totally scunnered with you posting absolute nonsense.

Easy scunnered son-and that stuff's bad for your health-a lot worse than Mortonjag! Listen and learn-it's not difficult.
mortonjag 2007-06-21 12:54:35
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jun 21 2007, 12:20 PM) [snapback]291833[/snapback]
Nothing on the club website........

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mortonjag 2007-06-21 13:00:18
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 21 2007, 12:30 PM) [snapback]291841[/snapback]
A good signing in my opinion.

A player who impressed me every time I seen him play against us and who I think was playing below his level at Alloa.

Also good to get in a left sided player who can play left back, left mid or more centrally and who is very comfortable on the ball.

As I recall 'wee' Alloa were in the doldrums when we last played them up there, and were short of three or four regulars. McAnespie took that game by the scruff of the neck, and got the boys up for it, and we struggled for long spells.

An experienced left sided ex-full back turned midder-hopefully he will give us the 'dig' we sadly lack.


WELL DONE DDFR AND JM


Next priority-goalie to back up Davie McGurn-I have every confidence.
mortonjag 2007-06-21 13:05:25
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 21 2007, 01:00 PM) [snapback]291878[/snapback]
Gidday Newton ,

Have you had a visit from the church of latter day saints ? laugh.gif laugh.gif

Blasphemy!
mortonjag 2007-06-21 13:07:26
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 21 2007, 12:55 PM) [snapback]291872[/snapback]
I expect he meant the dig about the negativity on a certain unofficial website . I did say that not everyone will take DDFR's tone addressing supporters as lightly as you or even I .
A little more tact in his correspondance with supporters wouldn't go amiss .
No doubt your arguement will be FFS shut up wink.gif

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mortonjag 2007-06-21 13:08:50
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jun 21 2007, 12:57 PM) [snapback]291875[/snapback]
all the above, Chaiman, manager, existing players, new players, fans and other teams will have an impact on how we do. lets face it new players will come in and no matter what will change the team, for better or for worse. The manager will lay out his stall, train, prepare tactics right or wrong. The fans will have a big part to play this season of that there is no doubt but the main thing is we all stick by the team and take the rough with the smooth.

The fans then?
mortonjag 2007-06-21 13:11:43
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 21 2007, 01:08 PM) [snapback]291888[/snapback]
Not at all and I'm sorry that I've given you the impression that I would.

I think you're probably right actually. If his point is that he feels that Rae has a general "dig" in his tone then I cant argue against that as it's his opinion. It's just that a few people seemed to jump on a kind of band wagon after someone misquoted quoted Rae and it appeared he was having a dig at no season ticket fans- which he wasn't.

Sorry about the FFS give a rest from a day or so ago (it wasn't shut up). It was more, FFS lets drop it , you just seemed to be dragging the whole thing out again after giving incredibly good well balanced arguments in previous posts. - Sorry, I was suffering MJ fatigue and just lost it.

Your weakness and lack of control are understood and forgiven. Mortonjag is a wearing old c*nt, and has had LOTS of practice! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-21 13:14:04
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jun 21 2007, 01:08 PM) [snapback]291886[/snapback]
laugh.gif you truly do need treatment, some of the stuff is priceless but some is total dross but that reply is without a shadow of a doubt an absolute peach tongue.gif

among prunes.
mortonjag 2007-06-21 13:15:53
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jun 21 2007, 01:11 PM) [snapback]291889[/snapback]
do you think everyone on here is a daft wee boy?
you sure post like you do.
are you talking to me? im sure you are posting so should it not be 'read and learn?' i dont have a problem with that as long as the points made are valid, fair and with reason, not just pointless crap which you have made an art of posting daily

Of course not-I POST. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-21 13:23:33
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jun 21 2007, 01:17 PM) [snapback]291894[/snapback]
worst reply ever blink.gif

RLY rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-21 13:30:12
QUOTE(lush @ Jun 21 2007, 01:18 PM) [snapback]291895[/snapback]
Oh god, what have you started? Edinton will be along soon.

Appears he's lost the passion fr'it Lush!
mortonjag 2007-06-21 13:49:52
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jun 21 2007, 01:36 PM) [snapback]291909[/snapback]
maybe he has made other orange-ments

That's lemontable. I thought he loved to punnet.
mortonjag 2007-06-21 14:30:09
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 21 2007, 01:58 PM) [snapback]291919[/snapback]
Anyone seen the new Shrek yet?

Yeah-I plan 4,200 controversial posts about it-so controversial that others' opinions will be muffled, in the safe knowledge that if I get banned it won't be censorship-just the opinion of somebody whose opinion is more important than mine.
mortonjag 2007-06-21 14:37:35
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Jun 21 2007, 02:15 PM) [snapback]291928[/snapback]
One question, what does this thread have to do with Greenock Morton FC? General Nonsense surely? tongue.gif

Good point Iain-Mortonjag and general nonsense go hand in hand-surprised it hasn't been dealt with-maybe with the Mods all having day jobs we should sympathise.

Come to think of it, maybe if they didn't they'd be doing more posting and (where applicable) less moaning about those who NOW have the time to do the former.
mortonjag 2007-06-21 14:42:56
QUOTE(GMC @ Jun 21 2007, 02:08 PM) [snapback]291922[/snapback]
Good signing which has been hinted at several times before. smile.gif
I can see Jim being played on the right side next year now...unsure.gif

What I'd prefer is competition for places-Jimbo's got potential and so have Midge, Jamie, AND Alex.

Just a thought-where does Kev fit into all this. I still believe he'd make a good right back.

Good signing in many ways IMO.
mortonjag 2007-06-21 14:45:48
QUOTE(The Viking @ Jun 21 2007, 10:47 AM) [snapback]291781[/snapback]
Lemmington, I received the exact same letter last week. Phoned them the next day and the guy on the phone said they where only willing to offer me 90% of my claim. I said I wasn't willing to accept this and gave them a figure I was willing to accept (about 95%). Thought this was ok as they are entitled to charge a certain amount. He checked this with his supervisor who okayed it.

Money should be in my account early next week. Will update you when it is.

Well done-if you had pushed harder you'd have got the lot.
mortonjag 2007-06-21 14:50:19
QUOTE(GMC @ Jun 21 2007, 02:45 PM) [snapback]291942[/snapback]
I...agree...with...mortonjag! blink.gif

It's not an offence GMC-but apparently it's being worked on! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-21 14:53:44
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jun 21 2007, 02:48 PM) [snapback]291946[/snapback]
I think Ryan is a better CB than Graecen and If anyone was brought in Id rather see them play beside Harding

Stu's too much of an 'all or nothing' player, and will find it more difficult up a level. Harding's a natural footballer. On the very few occasions when he played without Stu (Ayr at the end of the season for example) he looked comfortable.
mortonjag 2007-06-21 14:56:40
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 21 2007, 02:54 PM) [snapback]291951[/snapback]
I think the game developers would be a laughing stock for not being able to spell "atheist".

Sorry to go off topic Mick-what do you think of our new signings-you may never have heard of McAnespie, but that Cellic babe-what's he like?
mortonjag 2007-06-21 15:02:55
QUOTE(mickaspic @ Jun 21 2007, 02:59 PM) [snapback]291955[/snapback]
Im not necesserilly saying we ditch Ryan. Just that I dont think that Ryan and Stu work particularly well as a partnership. Think the starter out of the two would depend on the centre back brought in.

Mick

Seems wise to me.
mortonjag 2007-06-21 15:05:20
QUOTE(lush @ Jun 21 2007, 02:39 PM) [snapback]291939[/snapback]
ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

...presumably in the Cafe Lush-either that or another topic's gone OFF THREAD-dearie me-we desperately need some censorship tolerance! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-21 19:39:57 MR Tontastic said-

If everyone agreed in principle to keep topics "on-topic" and start new threads to deal with side issues then what should be done if there folk who insist on bleating on about the same old same old at the slightest opportunity and effectively stifle threads. Its all very well to say "ignore them", but why not say "stop it"?

MR Tontastic said-

Its not always subject matter that people don't approve of, sometimes it is the style/method of delivery.

MR Tontastic said-

I don't understand the censorship bit. I don't see anywhere where i suggested not posting, or suppressing opinion

And finally, MR Tontastic said-


Next person to say censorship is a scare mongerer
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Master Mortonjag says-

Aye right Mr Tontastic-I get the message loud and clear-or was it some other sheep you were alluding to.

'Effectively stifle threads'-that's rich-it seems to me that this sheep (if indeed you are alluding to Mortonjag) stimulates more reaction than many a poster--- so indeed, why not stop him.

The 'style and method of delivery'-oh I see-so that's to be tailored too. I don't exactly admire the style and delivery of some of the 'halfwits' on the forum-it doesn't stop me joining in with them in the fun and banter-after all it's a free country-well that's what my dad fought for in the 'last war'.

Like it or not, you are in a position of power, and IMO have a responsibility to oversee total impartiality.

It seems to me especially important, given your commercial interest in things 'Morton', that your responsibility should override your power.

Perhaps I have misjudged you, and if so, I apologise unreservedly.
mortonjag 2007-06-21 19:51:48
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 21 2007, 05:53 PM) [snapback]292044[/snapback]
Don't give him that idea.
The next time I post I'll be met by the Maginot line. unsure.gif

Does ThornTON give some of his chocolate to MR Tontastic?
mortonjag 2007-06-21 19:53:50
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jun 21 2007, 03:10 PM) [snapback]291968[/snapback]
Mortonjag for moderator! ohmy.gif

Heil Mortonjag! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-21 20:10:16
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jun 21 2007, 06:25 PM) [snapback]292058[/snapback]
you say you have never initiated a personal attack, however is being a patronising, arrogant arsehole not just as bad?

Mortonjag does indeed appear to be patronising and arrogant, though he'd probably use the word 'anus'.

The person behind Mortonjag-what do you imagine her to be like?
mortonjag 2007-06-21 20:29:31
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 21 2007, 08:22 PM) [snapback]292162[/snapback]
WillowMan's attempts to get me off the board last night failed, this might work unless mortonjag comes out and tells us he's not a he-she! mellow.gif

Mortonjag is Mortonjag-The person behind Mortonjag can be he, she, or it to suit personal taste.

That's why Mortonjag and the Monkey are interchangeable, just as the penis is detachable.
mortonjag 2007-06-21 20:31:17
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 21 2007, 07:59 PM) [snapback]292120[/snapback]
Perhaps thornTON has been taken over by the Grand sweetie merchant himself. ohmy.gif

Mr Nestle? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-22 04:26:00
QUOTE(Lindberg6 @ Jun 21 2007, 03:54 PM) [snapback]291988[/snapback]
'McDonald has taken apart far better defenders than our skipper! That's like saying that most SPL defenders (who McDonald has taken apart for years) aren't good enough for our beloved Ton...ridiculous!'

excellent response there tonosauraus, once [b]again someone dares to offer an opinion and are called ridiculous for it........superb[/b]

Tonosaurus is by no means the worst offender Lindberg, but his response is another good example of 'a man seeing what he wants to see'. IMHO.

Greacen's been immense for the club for many reasons-a guy who does appear to play for the badge, but Harding's miles the better footballer, and will come on in leaps and bounds if he plays with somebody who can 'gel' with him.
mortonjag 2007-06-22 04:36:47
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jun 21 2007, 08:34 PM) [snapback]292181[/snapback]
for god sake mj what is happening 1signing and it would appear that you could be talkin sense...........................best point you have ever made.........................................bet you cant do it again biggrin.gif

Believe it or not, I've been saying both of those things for many, many months.

Just to refresh memories, Mortonjag was LAMBASTED for calling Finlayson's role in question early last season. All I ever said was that he was useless in an attacking 'wide right' function, yet despite the fact that I consistently praised his work ethic and suggested he could be utilised elsewhere, I took pelters for weeks on end.

I still believe the boy got a raw deal ultimately. Like McAnespie, he'd been a crucial player at a smaller club, and was, I'm told, seen by our Board as a vital acquisition.

The rest is history.
mortonjag 2007-06-22 04:43:30
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 21 2007, 08:38 PM) [snapback]292187[/snapback]
The main thing about this signing is that it's hardly big news. Morton sign McAnespie, so what?
It's got a feeling of Darren Henderson about it. Back on the old board there were loads of folk shouting we should sign him but if he was a decent player he wouldn't have spent most of his career at Ayr and Forfar. Likewise McAnespie. His last two clubs have been Ayr and Alloa so he can't really be that good.

What are you talking about DM-'good' as in likely to get an international cap, or 'good' in that he will fill a very large gap in the squad in terms of position, experience, and motivational ability.

Lots of our 'good wee players' were crap for half of last season because they had nobody to lead them.

I'm praying we've finally got our experienced journeyman who can take a game by the 'scruff of the neck', and 'kick ass' when necessary.
mortonjag 2007-06-22 04:46:14
QUOTE(simplyton @ Jun 21 2007, 09:29 PM) [snapback]292210[/snapback]
Seems like a decent enough signing

Im not looking for a world beating full back (if thats where he will play) just someone who will provide defensive cover for Jim or however ends up playing in front of him - Give our creative players the freedom to go forward knowing we have good back 5 and holding midfielder (hopefully signed during the summer) to allow the other 5 to go at the opposition

Also appears that we have kept plenty in the kitty for the other areas of the field that need strengthening - The 4 required for the spine of the team - Central Midfielder, Striker, Goalkeeper & Centre Half (in order of importantance)

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Surely a goalie is an absolute priority. Davie McGurn could pick up an injury before the season even starts properly.
mortonjag 2007-06-22 04:50:00
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 21 2007, 10:47 PM) [snapback]292243[/snapback]
He was in Greenock signing a contract today, strange what you see when you take the kids to Fun World. tongue.gif

Is that a new name for Cappielow MidTONs-you know-the place where Greenock Morton play football, and where you'd expect a new player to sign his contract! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-22 04:56:47
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 21 2007, 11:46 PM) [snapback]292279[/snapback]
In his Chairman's post of 13 June, Dougie promised

1) Next week (i.e. w/ending 22 June) we will sign a left sided midfielder with Premiership and SPL experience. We have = McAnespie
2) We are looking for a top goalscorer and our primary target is on holiday until the week after next i.e. w/ending 29 June. We will know more then.
3) We are looking for a big strong midfielder. Simon Mensing turned us down and we are looking elsewhere.

I have never known Dougie to let us down in terms of what he has told us about signings and I expect another 3/4 decent additions before we go to Morecambe.

Me, I would be happy with

McGowan for another year's loan
20 Goal Striker
A midfield enforcer/motivator
A goalkeeper

I am less worried about cnetre backs as

1) I think both our centre backs can cut it at this level
2) With McAnespie signed, Mcgregor can deputise or maybe even take on a centre back role.

Full marks to Mr Rae-so far, so good.

Why do you want that SUPER 'striker' McGowan, AND a 'striker', (AND Spoonsy, AND Linn, AND Sanny)?

Is it just you, money, and numbers. Seems we've already got a young Cellic midfielder on loan-I certainly don't mind Gowser coming back if it's to compete for a place instead of being made to fit a picture.
mortonjag 2007-06-22 05:02:06
QUOTE(simplyton @ Jun 21 2007, 09:56 PM) [snapback]292227[/snapback]
Manky is that not partly because you've grown up (did you ever think anyone would say this to you?)

I remember a cup game v Skunks in 19canteen at Cappielow - Alex O'Hara made an acrobatic clearance to deny Skunks a goal - I raved about this to my mum when I got in the house (Mum always got 3 or 4 different opinions on the game from family after the match) of course I had missed out the fact that he had made a total pigs ear of 1 of the skunks goals in a 3-2 defeat. My younger days were littered with memories of "great" Mortons player like Archie Gourlay who used to slide along the grass to keep the ball in play - wow!!!

Much of my memories of Boagie or Pickering were like this - remembering the kamikaze tackle as the ball ran harmlessly out the park or the sly kick or punch when they thought no one was looking. They made it exciting when I was younger but if they were in the team nowadays we'd only have them 20 games a season.

In 10 or so years time the 20 somethings will rave about the kamikaze tackling of Marco Maisano or the sharpness of Alex Williams convienently forgetting they were a liability to the team.

You're not suggesting that you get more cynical-realistic even-as you age simplyton? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-22 05:07:54 I'll hopefully be going to all away games-AND have two spare seats in a half decent motor.

Undoubtedly my offer of a lift will be summarily rejected! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-22 05:10:14
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 21 2007, 09:29 PM) [snapback]292209[/snapback]
McAlsiter's never a full back in a million years, if that's who you mean? blink.gif

I'd actually like to see Jim given a shot as our right winger as imo he'd toil badly on the left in the first division.
As I predicted about a fortnight ago. mad.gif

I'd like to see us sign a right winger-failing that-I agree.
mortonjag 2007-06-22 05:12:09
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 22 2007, 01:29 AM) [snapback]292324[/snapback]
Isn't it great to know that you give a guy like McCall some extra weeks to prepare his signings to try and justify our lack of activity on the transfer front blink.gif

JM claimed nearly as far back as APRIL that he would sign 'In contract' SPL players.

So far we've signed ANOTHER KID and a 27yr old who despite being up there at one point was playing with a languishing 2nd Div side.

O bet we beat off loads of bids to capture his signature blink.gif
McCakk has signed more guys over the phone than JM has overall whilst our manager !!!

Why is that-it seems bloody obvious to the Monkey that Dougie's having to trim the budget.
mortonjag 2007-06-22 05:15:33
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 22 2007, 01:13 AM) [snapback]292316[/snapback]
MJ will be posting from Gauntanamo Bay tongue.gif

Or the dungeon at FORT Matilda.
mortonjag 2007-06-22 05:18:26
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 21 2007, 06:01 PM) [snapback]292047[/snapback]
Should that not be over two lines? tongue.gif

Just testing you cheeky brat-you understand rhythm fine well! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-22 05:20:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 21 2007, 08:41 PM) [snapback]292189[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

Would you be happy if this wealthy young lad made Sugar Rae an offer he couldn't refuse?


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It would give you a whole new line in patter.
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Prince William turned 25 and gained part of the inheritance left him by his mother, Princess Diana.

William, who is second in line to the throne, gains access to the interest and other income accrued on the STG6.5 million he was left by his mother, who died in a Paris car crash in 1997.

William's Clarence House office would not say what the prince planned to do with the money, estimated at STG250,000 to STG300,000 a year.

Harry, 22, William's brother, will gain access to a similar amount when he turns 25. Under the conditions of Diana's will, the brothers gain access to the capital sum when they turn 30.

William and Harry are both second lieutenants in the British army, earning salaries of about STG22,000 a year. They also receive money for accommodation and other expenses from their father, Prince Charles.

Now that he is 25, William also can marry without the consent of his grandmother, Queen Elizabeth II - but no royal nuptials are on the horizon. William and his long-term girlfriend, Kate Middleton, announced in April that had split.

Only if he's a Ton supporter! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-22 05:22:38
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 21 2007, 09:20 PM) [snapback]292205[/snapback]
Don't talk about yourself in the 3rd person, it makes you sound like a stuck up anus.

SOUND LIKE! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-22 05:29:53
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 22 2007, 12:39 AM) [snapback]292293[/snapback]
Are you inadvertantly referring to a Strapadicktome blink.gif

STRAPADICKTOMY



Often performed in conjunction with

BILATERAL BOUNCERECTOMY


Willow. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-22 05:37:40
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 22 2007, 01:04 AM) [snapback]292309[/snapback]
To the point and agreed with 100%

The 'PLUS INTEREST' point is valid too.

They are experts at this GAME-you just have to know how far you and they will be willing to go. In the current climate I'd push a bank for 100% MINIMUM, and set a time limit too.
mortonjag 2007-06-22 05:40:37
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 21 2007, 09:41 PM) [snapback]292215[/snapback]
I went to B&Q today to purchase a new table and chairs for the garden.

Looking for a decent wooden one, and noticed that they had a 20% sale on garden furniture. So I found a large table reduced down to £150 and 4 chairs for £100, looked sturdy and made from a dark wood.
So a packed em all onto a trolley and went to the checkout, very kind checkout lady, helps finding barcodes on very large boxes to scan for prices and doesn't miss out any.

Yes sir that will be £130.

WTF, couldn't believe my ears, wiped the card out and paid right away and headed to the car.

Now after getting home and setting it all up I checked my reciept and all five items are listed, but the very large oval table has been charged at £30 which is very much a mistake.

Should I

1 Call em back up and say about the obvious error and offer to pay the difference

2 Say nowt and keep the £120 difference

Lucky c*nt-never seems to go that way for me! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-22 05:42:15
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 21 2007, 10:01 PM) [snapback]292228[/snapback]
We're in the process of getting punted at work, and as our redundancy pay-off is dependant on length of service everyone's is calculated individually. Anyway, they overestimated one of my mate's pay-off by 50 grand... and he told them!

Now that's honestly for you.

So yeah, I think you should own up.

Ever so slightly different scenario! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-22 05:43:08
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 21 2007, 10:51 PM) [snapback]292250[/snapback]
Hmmm let me think......
I think the answer is number 2.
Am I right? Did I win a prize?

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mortonjag 2007-06-22 05:46:13 I'd be interested in a legal opinion. The advertised price and the price charged were different-simple as that I'd imagine.

Clear conscience I say.
mortonjag 2007-06-22 05:57:50
QUOTE(shedhead @ Jun 21 2007, 12:30 AM) [snapback]291708[/snapback]
Take away the transfer speculation and what you got during the summer. f*** all , so stop moaning ya moany wee moaning faced moaner tongue.gif

Those f*ckin' negativity boys do ma tits in Shedhead-never happy unless they're havin' a good moan.

Yours Aye
mortonjag 2007-06-22 06:22:53 post not found
mortonjag 2007-06-22 07:34:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2007, 07:28 AM) [snapback]292375[/snapback]
please stop saturating this board with senseless and scandalous sedition soon.

JM and Sugar Rae have savoir faire


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Savoir faire-oui
Pouvoir faire

PEUT ETRE! wink.gif

Laissez faire? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-22 08:04:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2007, 07:53 AM) [snapback]292379[/snapback]
The knowledge of what to do in ANY situation.

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Labor omnia vincit

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Loosely translated-if you keep working away at something you'll get there SOMETIME! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-22 08:42:57
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jun 22 2007, 08:24 AM) [snapback]292384[/snapback]
What a couple of boring old 'farts' Newton & Mortonjag have become!!!!!

Sumus in tedium geriatricum flati newt-in veritas complimentum magnum. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-22 08:45:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2007, 08:30 AM) [snapback]292385[/snapback]
Pre-season training starts in 240 hours.

Is that correct ?

and JM still has 4 players to sign ?

One every 60 hours.

That will be a change.

Our track record - 2 players in 22 days.

Now we are going to sign 4 in 10 days.

I'd like to see that.

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Have faith-per ardua ad astra (not necessarily SPL astra mind).
mortonjag 2007-06-22 08:51:39
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 22 2007, 08:18 AM) [snapback]292383[/snapback]
Ginger.

aliva.

Medicinal uses


One medical research study had results indicating that ginger might be an effective treatment for nausea caused by motion sickness or other illness,[3] The study however, failed to show a significant difference between ginger and a placebo. There are several proposed mechanisms of action for the anti-emetic properties of ginger but there is not yet conclusive support for any particular model.

Modern research on nausea and motion sickness used approximately 1 gram of ginger powder daily. Though there are claims for efficacy in all causes of nausea, the PDR recommends against taking ginger root for morning sickness commonly associated with pregnancy due to possible mutagenic effects. Nevertheless, Chinese women traditionally have taken ginger root during pregnancy to combat morning sickness. The Natural Medicines Comprehensive Database (compiled by health professionals and pharmacists), states that ginger is likely safe for use in pregnancy when used orally in amounts found in foods. Ginger ale and ginger beer have been recommended as "stomach settlers" for generations in countries where the beverages are made. Ginger water was commonly used to avoid heat cramps in the United States in the past.

In Western-hemisphere nations, powdered dried ginger root is made into capsules and sold in pharmacies for medicinal use. In the US, ginger is not approved by the FDA for the treatment or cure of any disease. Ginger is instead sold as an unregulated dietary supplement. In India, ginger is applied as a paste to the temples to relieve headache. In Myanmar, ginger and local sweet (Htan nyat) which is made from palm tree juice are boiled together and taken to prevent the Flu. A hot ginger drink (made with sliced ginger cooked in sweetened water or a Coca-Cola-like drink) has been reported as a folk medicine for common cold.[4]

Ginger has also historically been used in folk medicine to treat inflammation, although medical studies as to the efficacy of ginger in decreasing inflammation have shown mixed results. There are several studies that demonstrate a decrease in joint pain from arthritis after taking ginger, though the results have not been consistent from study to study. It may also have blood thinning and cholesterol lowering properties, making it theoretically effective in treating heart disease; while early studies have shown some efficacy, it is too early to determine whether further research will bear this out.[1]

The medical form of ginger historically was called "Jamaica ginger"; it was classified as a stimulant and carminative, being much used for dyspepsia and colic. It was also frequently employed to disguise the taste of nauseous medicines. The tea brewed from this root was an old-fashioned remedy for colds.

The characteristic odor and flavor of ginger root is caused by a mixture of zingerone, shoagoles and gingerols, volatile oils that compose about 1%–3% by weight of fresh ginger. The gingerols have analgesic, sedative, antipyretic, antibacterial, and GI tract motility effects.

Ginger is on the GRAS list from FDA. However, like other herbs, ginger may be harmful because it may interact with other medications, such as warfarin; hence, a physician or pharmacist should be consulted before taking the herb. Ginger is also contraindicated in people suffering from gallstones, because the herb promotes the release of bile from the gallbladder. [2].

A special type of ginger in Indonesia which also known as Temulawak is being used as a herbal preparation and therapy for patients who wish to slim down, detoxification, reducing "winds" in blood streams and controlling bad eating habits.

Better than oranges any day!!
mortonjag 2007-06-22 08:57:18
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jun 22 2007, 08:47 AM) [snapback]292389[/snapback]
If Newton is correct and Mortonjag has only been using this site for 11 months, it is still pretty impressive the amount of postings he has made. At a quick recent check he has managed some 8,837 in that time averaging nearly 30 per day. Pretty sad really that that is all he has to fill his time. These contributions would be easier to take if they were of a better content instead of the repetitious self opionated guff that he produces including the "latin" quotations presumably included to "impress" the common people.
Why not reduce the quantity and improve on the quality Doc.
Now,how do I get to the Pie & Bovril site????????

First on yer left past the bookie's mate-f***in' magic burgers an' a'.

Get a life you inverted snob and stop telling other people how to live theirs. smile.gif


Edit: To add --please note this is not a personal attack-simply a response to about the one hundredth in the past week-not that I'm complaining, but if folk would gie's peace, I would do less posting! wub.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-22 09:08:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2007, 08:53 AM) [snapback]292391[/snapback]
the definition of insanity ???

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...is variable according to perceived normality.

'Insanity' on an unofficial football forum might equate to total normality on psychometric analysis!
mortonjag 2007-06-22 09:13:59
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 22 2007, 09:01 AM) [snapback]292398[/snapback]
As ever your flowery language is clouding the point you're trying to make.

If McAnespie was an 'experienced journeyman' who can 'take the game by the scruff of the neck' why in God's name would have have spent the last two years at Ayr and Alloa?

Hardly a signing worth mentioning.

Could you translate the first sentence for us-simple souls -DM?




He has experience, and is by definition a 'journeyman'. I SAW him take the last game against us at Alloa 'by the scruff of the neck', and JM and Shoogly were clearly impressed too.

Mortonjag gets battered from all directions for 'negativity' 'vendettas' etc.

Folk like you just sneak in the wee digs eh? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-22 09:17:03
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 22 2007, 09:05 AM) [snapback]292402[/snapback]
Your implication is that this is somehow Nicola Sturgeon is responsible for this chaotic system. Surely that is not the case? She may be involved in sorting out the mess, but she certainly didn't start the fire.

NO implication intended Alibi-merely posted the link to see how it could be turned into a negativity fest against Shoogly.
mortonjag 2007-06-22 09:38:33
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jun 22 2007, 09:00 AM) [snapback]292397[/snapback]
I rest my case! Pompous ass.

The irony is sweetly touching. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-22 09:43:58
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 22 2007, 09:16 AM) [snapback]292414[/snapback]
No wee digs at all MJ. Unlike others I have absolutely no problem with you at all. All I am saying is that you tend to use 10 words when 2 would do. tongue.gif

I didn't mean ME-you were havin' a go at Shoogly's prized signing! wink.gif


It would be fun to see me precis one of the truly garrulous posters DM-you know something-it wouldn't matter what I said or how I said it-somebody would object-and thank f*ck-life without strife is often a 'cop out'. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-22 10:19:50
QUOTE(tontastic @ Jun 22 2007, 09:30 AM) [snapback]292422[/snapback]
I've not suggested anything. I've only responded to some emails from folk saying they are pissed off with the number of times that their posts get hijacked and bent beyond what they had wanted to discuss. I'm not sure why i was emailed, as its not my say. My response was to ask if everyone thought this was a problem or not. I said above that i've no problem with things staying the way they are ... unless loads of folk fancy a change to split the subject matter into different sub-forums. The response was predictable ... the scare mongerers would have you think that you were threatening to cut their left testicle off all because you asked folk their opinion. I can only presume that they must think that their opinion would be in the minority, which going by the poll results from a thoroughly unscientific 65 voters isn't actually the case, it looks *about* 50/50 so far for a change to the structure. Given the vast majority for the "keep topics on topic" then i'd say that is a mandate that almost everyone agrees with.



Instead of acknowledging the many comments of those who are happy with the status quo, you cite anonymous e-mails-presumably those are from the poor wee souls who can't make a point on the forum and have to run clyping to the Headmaster. Or wait-could they be complaints from Scapa where Tontastic operates of a Saturday?

If you were GENUINELY only asking for opinion, you let yourself down very badly in your long winded diatribe about the 'bleaters', just as you persist with the emotive term 'Scare Mongerers'-I presume you mean Scaremongers.

While I'm on-may I ask you the same question I've now posed four times in the past week to others, without a single reply.

DO YOU DEFEND FREEDOM OF SPEECH?

I repeat-if I've misjudged you-I apologise unreservedly.
mortonjag 2007-06-22 10:29:39
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Jun 22 2007, 10:26 AM) [snapback]292452[/snapback]
Damn, people, if all you have to worry about in this world is if someone is taking your thread "off topic," then you've got it made.

Grow up, get over it, and move on. It's not worth all of this "discussion" over the matter.

If the whole bloody issue IS only about that Trick, I couldn't agree more.
mortonjag 2007-06-22 10:40:04
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Jun 22 2007, 09:43 AM) [snapback]292426[/snapback]
Can't say I've really noticed McAnespie standing out against us, but then I'm never really one to pay too much attention to the opposition.

Hopefully he'll be a good signing, but the signing of any player from a division below us isn't likely to get the fans too excited. To compete we need to be poaching some of the best players from other First Division teams or picking up decent Bosmans from the SPL or elsewhere... not happened so far.

One top signing could bring in an extra few hundred fans to the first game of the season (300 x £13 = £3900), and if the results are positive they'd stick around... so it's worth pushing the boat out a bit to get someone a bit special in.

Hopefully the signings that get us all rushing out to buy season tickets are yet to come... rolleyes.gif

Agree about attracting the crowds.
Disagree that he can't do the job-only time will tell.
mortonjag 2007-06-22 11:14:45 [quote name='tontastic' date='Jun 22 2007, 10:47 AM' post='292476']
I have *never* been asked by *anyone* at Scappa to intervene on any thread or content on this forum. If i was asked i would deflect attention to the owner of the forum.

That's reassuring.

The *only* threads that I have moved or deleted on this forum have been ones in which site rules (racism, personal abuse etc) have been broken. I have never removed any messages just because i disagreed with them.

Shouldn't that be 'in my opinion have been broken'?

I've no problems with long winded diatribes about "bleaters" cos that is what they are: Bleaters. Bleaters Bleaters Bleaters. Bleaters that bleat on about maintaining the status quo and refuse to even entertain the possibility that there might be better ways of doing things. Most of them bleat on here day in day out till they get message counts akin to US national debt figures.

Again MR Tontastic, that's your opinion-just like mine-namely that you've got a 'guid conceit o' yoursel'. You are thoroughly entitled to that but as the 'gaffer', you are accorded status and perceived authority. As I said before, power without responsibility should be questioned, and you appear to behave like a spoiled child on this topic, with personal attacks via emotive terms.

And long may they continue to bleat, cos the forum would be *very* dull without them. Provided they don't break the site rules (racism, unwelcome personal abuse, advocation of goat worrying or "Status Quo" listening etc). And preferably if they don't inflict deflection and distraction where it is unwarranted. Or perhaps i should just put some folk on ignore .....

Perhaps you should learn how to professionally detach yourself-I can give you some tuition if you wish.

So in summary .... I DEFEND FREEDOM OF SPEECH.


PRAISE GOD


oh ... and dislike of emotive terms ... coming from you, that's sarcasm, right?


You seem to totally miss the point-you're doing yourself a HUGE disfavour by becoming embroiled in personal stuff. People constantly cite my previous Profession as a reason why I should be seen to be beyond reproach on this 'rag'. That's a bit daft IMO, but I do understand what they mean.

When I was in a position of authority my behaviour was quite different.

Finally, you still have not answered LCM's question.
mortonjag 2007-06-22 11:35:37
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Jun 22 2007, 11:31 AM) [snapback]292505[/snapback]
Mortonjag---Give it a flippin' rest, will you? Damn, man!

Tontastic---I admire what you were trying to do with the questions that you posed, but I don't think it's worth it. You won't be able to satisfy everyone, so there's no winning here. My advice, and what I would do, is to leave things as they are, let the threads take on the issues that they do, and (if you deem necessary), put restrictions of some sort on those that get out of line at times. I think this is the only way you're going to "win" this, although it will also make others dissatisfied because their threads get "hijacked" and take on other discussions that weren't intended.

I don't seem to recall starting it Trick-every single post I've made has been in response to something I believe is wrong.

You are the very chap who gets pretty heated over matters of principle-please respect that that's all I'm doing.
mortonjag 2007-06-22 14:31:56
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2007, 11:42 AM) [snapback]292511[/snapback]

....necessity being the Mother of invention. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-22 14:35:42
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 22 2007, 01:21 PM) [snapback]292555[/snapback]
If this is so important, then why has he spent the last couple of seasons in the lower leagues?
To compare McAnespie with Lindberg is ridiculous.

It helps if you add 'IMO'.
mortonjag 2007-06-22 14:37:52
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jun 22 2007, 01:27 PM) [snapback]292557[/snapback]
This thread has gone off-topic!!

I insist upon the resumption of discussions relating to Stephen Glass, and Stephen Glass only!

...I agree-surprised nothing's been done! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-22 14:39:54 Is it Sine Die, or can he come back in-say 20 years? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-22 14:43:54
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jun 22 2007, 01:45 PM) [snapback]292576[/snapback]
Didn't he play left back at Alloa, though? If he played laft back he is, by definition, a left back.

Maybe he's a left back who can play in midfield?

Does it matter which he is?

Nope-no more than it matters whether Gowser's a striker or not!
mortonjag 2007-06-22 14:53:19
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jun 22 2007, 02:50 PM) [snapback]292631[/snapback]
STILL no anouncement on the official website.

Maybe they're trying to tell us something!
mortonjag 2007-06-22 14:54:49
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jun 22 2007, 02:51 PM) [snapback]292636[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Jun 22 2007, 02:48 PM) [snapback]292629[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Probably one of the best Scottish left backs never to be capped for Scotland.....Anyone agree.

Yes!

If he was playing today.........

Agreed-was his son on Airdrie's books last season BTW?
mortonjag 2007-06-22 15:00:40 The roundabout near the waterfront and Tesco has always been an accident waiting to happen-they seem to have made no attempt to bank it properly-I presume it's a temporary measure but they've been found out.
mortonjag 2007-06-22 15:19:41
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 22 2007, 03:04 PM) [snapback]292646[/snapback]
Mortonjag it was not that roundabout, its the one on the old section of the A8 between the Bogston and the start of the Port Town, that's also where the lorry shed it's load last week as well.

I know!

Near the PORT waterfront and the new hooses they can't get mortgages for!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-22 15:20:33
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 22 2007, 03:10 PM) [snapback]292649[/snapback]
Looks like our MJ is losing it Jim laugh.gif

Nope Gibby-not an HGV driver! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-22 15:21:37
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 22 2007, 03:12 PM) [snapback]292650[/snapback]
A lorry load of hair restorer has chrashed, shedding its load.

Police are combing the area.

Big leak closed Clyde tunnel last night.



Fell of a fruit and veg lorry.
mortonjag 2007-06-22 15:26:25
QUOTE(edd @ Jun 22 2007, 03:16 PM) [snapback]292652[/snapback]
by taking it to the till you offer to pay the advertised price. they accept the offer but by mistake charge £120 less than what they were meant to get. they could try and claim unjustified enrichment and get their money back, but you're not a thief and you don't have to act in good faith in this situation, it's up to them to sort themselves out.

TY edd

'Unjustified enrichment' is a lovely term-synonyms spring to mind-I'd start off with:

Banks
Estate Agents....
mortonjag 2007-06-22 15:29:47
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 22 2007, 03:24 PM) [snapback]292659[/snapback]
You there or there about but there is a roundabout at the waterfront on the new section of road but like I said it the roundabout furthest away from the water on the older stretch of road, there is indeed housing being built near by, I didn't know you couldn't get a mortgage for them though as I was told a poster on this board had bout one. unsure.gif

There was a thread about it recently MidTONs.

There are two roundabouts on that section of road and the banking on both is an absolute disgrace. I guarantee they'll have warning signs up shortly for heavy sided vehicles.
mortonjag 2007-06-22 15:31:23
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jun 22 2007, 03:15 PM) [snapback]292651[/snapback]
Maybe they're trying NOT to tell something.
Or maybe they're not trying at all.

Sometimes they are very trying.
mortonjag 2007-06-22 15:35:51
QUOTE(Benin Dahomey @ Jun 22 2007, 03:19 PM) [snapback]292653[/snapback]
if people are desperate for their own threads to stay on topic, they could say so in the title.

for example

"The SNHS"

and

"The SNHS [Please Stay On Topic]"

In the second example we could just respect the wishes of the thread starter to discuss only the title topic, whereas the first example could legitimately go on to anything (within reason or not).

Just a suggestion?

Ben-you'd imagine that, but I guarantee the very first response to 'Please stay on topic' would be 'Aye Right'.

MR Tontastic will think I'm being cynical, but in theory I agree with many of his ideas-they are just totally impractical on an effectively self policing internet forum-where (almost) anything goes.
mortonjag 2007-06-22 15:41:51
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2007, 03:34 PM) [snapback]292666[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

This site is full of voyeurs !!!

from the viewer count, 150+ look on as you and I exchange thoughts and feelings.
ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

Now, I can see why Benin is using us for his Doctor of Philosophy.

Perhaps you and I need to become more philosophical ???

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'Only when one can honestly address his own thoughts and feelings has he a remote chance of genuine empathy'.


Mortonjag

22/6/2007
mortonjag 2007-06-22 15:42:31
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jun 22 2007, 03:39 PM) [snapback]292669[/snapback]
If nobody was looking, would it really be happening?

If a tree falls in the forest........


The forest is a poorer place.
mortonjag 2007-06-22 15:45:36
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 22 2007, 03:23 PM) [snapback]292658[/snapback]
I think so. I know Graeme Holmes was at Dundee United , Dumbarton on loan and left Dundee United. Airdrie sounds right.

I thought it was the same lad-I saw him in the play-offs-not quite his father's son though!
mortonjag 2007-06-22 15:52:21
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 22 2007, 03:05 PM) [snapback]292647[/snapback]
Meh. Aside from a few unnecessary contentious folk its not such a bad job.
That's something I inherited from the previous regime, and I assume it was changed because of the way people were using it on here...

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mortonjag 2007-06-22 15:57:25
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 22 2007, 03:51 PM) [snapback]292676[/snapback]
Signed Mif. Typical council decisions. They never consult the people that their decisions actually affect.

There's a massive trading estate adjacent to Forthbank, and I'd guess supporters will start to fill that up.

Interesting to see what the effect will be on local business if folk stop shopping there every second Saturday because they can't get parked between 2 and 5 p.m.
mortonjag 2007-06-22 15:59:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2007, 03:56 PM) [snapback]292678[/snapback]
If nobody was looking, would it really be happening?

If nobody was looking, would the viewer count keep increasing ?

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Might depend on whether or not they were looking AND seeing, and vice versa the other way about!
mortonjag 2007-06-22 16:16:46
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 22 2007, 01:39 PM) [snapback]292570[/snapback]
Jag,

Serious question, can you explain to me in laymans terms how the relationship between Warfarin, alcohol and vitamin K works?

Cheers.

Vitamin K is essential for blood clotting. The body stores very little so a regular intake (provided by a normal diet) is essential. Alcoholics are often prone to haemorrhages because of low Vitamin K levels associated with poor nutrition.

Warfarin inhibits the action of vitamin K and is used to thin the blood where that's desirable.

When taking warfarin, drinking alcohol is liable to increase the anti clotting effect, and also makes the dosage impossible to control, with risk of haemorrhage (and should be avoided).
mortonjag 2007-06-22 16:23:34
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2007, 04:13 PM) [snapback]292684[/snapback]
they were looking AND seeing ???

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200+ views !!!

mortonjag, they can't stay away.

With the obvious exception of that famous intellectual, ThornTON.

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Don't be hard on him-he's but a lad!
mortonjag 2007-06-22 16:24:37
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 22 2007, 04:19 PM) [snapback]292693[/snapback]
Hope I get an invite rolleyes.gif

You'll be made very welcome I'm sure!
mortonjag 2007-06-22 16:31:26 Would anybody like to hear a rumour about Douglas Rae?

I got this from a previously reliable source, and promised to keep it confidential, but I know I can trust you all.

Apparently he has Cornflakes for breakfast every morning except Sundays (when he has a full English one)-nothing unusual there, but I'm told he carefully weighs them out first, as he's on a calorie controlled diet.

That way he doesn't splash out too much milk either. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-22 16:35:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2007, 04:30 PM) [snapback]292703[/snapback]
speaking of lads, is Sick missing at sea again ?

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It's his second last Friday of paid employment Newt-maybe conscience has finally made a coward of him!
mortonjag 2007-06-22 16:37:58
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 22 2007, 04:32 PM) [snapback]292707[/snapback]
Should I go out and by a new hat ?

Oh I wouldn't rush -the date's not been finalised, and as you're well aware the price of hats in Scotland is about to plummet!
mortonjag 2007-06-22 17:43:00
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2007, 04:38 PM) [snapback]292718[/snapback]
naw, mortonjag, he posted last week that they are so taken by him that they have offered him a new permanent position.

group general manager ?

in the crows nest ?

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He's done really well then-I thought he was about to walk the plank, when in fact he's been promoted through 360 degrees.
mortonjag 2007-06-22 17:46:22
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 22 2007, 04:34 PM) [snapback]292711[/snapback]
Why doesn't he have a full Scottish one ? mad.gif

Presumably for the same reason as he gets his season tickets printed in England. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-22 17:51:15
SEAN KNOWS SOMETHING AND ISN'T TELLING


It's not fair-I'm going to p.m. MR Tontastic! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-22 17:58:48
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 22 2007, 04:38 PM) [snapback]292719[/snapback]
I was in a crash about a month ago, I going wasn't very fast but i took off the other cars bumper as I tried to reverse away. Next thing I know this dwarf got out and started shouting at me, I remained calm, got out and exchanged insurance details with him. he was still upset, and as he was walking away he turned to me and shouted "I'm not happy"
I shouted back "well which one are you then?"

It's well over twenty years since I first heard 'Seven Up' described as 'Snowhite's delight'.
mortonjag 2007-06-22 18:00:19
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 22 2007, 05:56 PM) [snapback]292767[/snapback]
I hear the Lorry that over turned was carrying Whisky no wonder the police were on the scene so quick. tongue.gif

Plot foiled methinks!!!
mortonjag 2007-06-22 18:02:18
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 22 2007, 05:54 PM) [snapback]292764[/snapback]
Stating fact, not opinion. cool.gif

That, IN FACT, is your opinion!
mortonjag 2007-06-22 18:10:14
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 22 2007, 06:07 PM) [snapback]292779[/snapback]

He didn't have to watch us play Killie to get that information-he played against us FFS!
mortonjag 2007-06-22 19:09:43
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 22 2007, 06:07 PM) [snapback]292780[/snapback]
Stop being pedantic, FOR ONCE. tongue.gif
Unless you seriously agree with the fool. huh.gif

Compare does not mean equate!
mortonjag 2007-06-22 19:21:40
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Jun 22 2007, 06:38 PM) [snapback]292820[/snapback]
There is one thing that Mortonjag which has put his post count MUCH higher than it really should be. That's reacting to different people's posts in seperate posts rather than just using the one post. I can bet that more than half of that post count would disappear if he never did that.

I've always given personal and detailed service Dom Dom-I wouldn't dream of demeaning my fellow posters by 'lumping them all together'.

BTW is there some kudos attached to a 'post count'?

Maybe it would be interesting to do an analysis of 'time spent on the board in relation to available free time'.

In my case it's actually quite small.
mortonjag 2007-06-23 05:39:13
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 22 2007, 11:04 PM) [snapback]292965[/snapback]
So if someone was to drink while on warfarin, should they take more vitamin k to compensate?

Theoretically it would work, but it's impossible in practice.

Getting a stable level of Warfarin is notoriously difficult in the first place and requires regular blood checks-every induvidual responds differently-some need much higher doses than others. Randomly taking Vitamin K could, for example, negate the anticoagulant effect in a person at risk from thrombosis, causing DVT, stroke, or fatal pulmonary embolism.
mortonjag 2007-06-23 05:46:03
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 23 2007, 04:38 AM) [snapback]293084[/snapback]
What's the problem here ??

You're up early Willow-I'm just out of bed-long lie on a Saturday and I see it's pissing with rain and miserable outside.

What with that, impending server downtime, and the attitude of the new regime on this board, I'm registering with P & B today.

Hopefully there will be less paranoid 'stuffed shirts' than we have on here.

I'm not planning to desert ship though-not yet anyhow. I'm just making preparations for what looks pretty likely.
mortonjag 2007-06-23 05:51:08
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 22 2007, 07:26 PM) [snapback]292859[/snapback]
You mean those two are actually Old Farters and not young idiots blink.gif

And here was me thinking.......... laugh.gif

The midshipman's surname was Carter,
well known as a helluva farter.
When the wind wouldnt blow, and the ship wouldn't go-
they got Carter the Farter to start 'er.
mortonjag 2007-06-23 06:06:55
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 22 2007, 08:30 PM) [snapback]292908[/snapback]
To be honest I've started to get pretty pissed off with the board lately, culminating in me putting NewTon on ignore for the first time. Previous to this I only ever had mortonjag on ignore about a year ago after we could't get along on any thread or any subject.

It seems every topic these days turns into a two way conversation between the two posters above and it does become nauseating after a while.

NewTon does have a VERY irritating posting style and I'm sure I'm not the only one annyoed by the repetitive nature and him double quoting.

If these two used pm's it would make life a lot easier for everyone on here.

The real reason, if you're honest, was that at the time you took great exception to my opinions about alcohol and addictive problems-allied to my insistence that Kevin Finlayson was being misused as an attacking wide right player.

Anyway, Bob, that's all water under the bridge as far as I'm concerned. I can't speak for NewTON-he's clearly a 'one off' and I think his contributions are just as valid as those of any other poster.

I've asked the same question five times in one week-'Do you defend freedom of speech'?

If the answer is yes, (as in my case), you have to accept the EQUAL VALIDITY of all opinions on this board.

By all means let's knock f*ck out of each other with the better man standing at the end, or when frustration overtakes reason, put somebody on ignore, but the (sometimes) thinly disguised attempts at censorship of any poster's input by another is in fact a statement of arrogance IMHO.

Vive la difference. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-23 06:22:47 I have a feeling that McAnespie's 'got it sorted' and sees the Ton as a good, if belated, career move.

I CAN'T understand why any criticism of JM or DDFR by myself and others is AUTOMATICALLY rubbished for various reasons, yet when those two guys get a man they've been chasing for some time, and that after careful consideration of financial and playing staff priorities, we get the usual rash of seemingly mindless critics.

Obviously nothing's guaranteed, but I'm impressed by this signing. It hasn't cost a fortune, the lad has tons of experience, and hopefully he WILL be played in his best position. One signing has created several new options, not least the possibility of Scott McLaughlin playing a sweeper role behind Greacen OR Harding-depending on the opposition.

Anyhow I never get credit for much, so I'm saying again;

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WELL DONE
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mortonjag 2007-06-23 06:29:42
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 23 2007, 06:11 AM) [snapback]293095[/snapback]
Just watched a cruise ship going up the Clyde, I wish I was on it, in fact I was I was about to get on it. tongue.gif

In yer dreams?
mortonjag 2007-06-23 06:55:59 I dont think I'd ever stop posting on the forum-after all I've been watching the 'Ton' for longer than I care to remember, and now I've plenty of relaxation time, which incorporates many other hobbies and interests.

I've cultivated the Mortonjag persona quite deliberately. Mortonjag IMHO keeps the pot boiling, and occcasionally pops in the helpful comment. Mortonjag respects nobody and nothing, unless respect is earned. Mortonjag does NOT randomly attack, but defends without mercy. Mortonjag does not belittle the genuinely less able, but quashes those who 'think they know better'. Most of all Mortonjag just enjoys the luxury of complete tomfoolery after a demanding professional career.

Recently there's been a palpable change in attitudes. It would appear that Mortonjag is now seen at least as an annoying irritation whose posts should be curbed, if not as a direct threat to the Board's establishment.

Mortonjag APPEARS extremely arrogant.

The real arrogance of some who ARE known, and who wish to stifle opinions or personae they dislike, highlights the vast importance of not confusing persona with identity.


Ernie
mortonjag 2007-06-23 07:11:56
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 23 2007, 06:41 AM) [snapback]293098[/snapback]
I'm just finishing my shift, I'll answer your question fully tonight.

All I will say is the problems I had with you back then are the same ones certain posters are having with you now. You're just misunderstood!

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TY! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-23 07:22:57
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 22 2007, 02:13 PM) [snapback]292605[/snapback]
Thistle are trying to sign David Rowson following him leaving Darlington. He is a powerful midfielder who was Thistle's star man along with Grady when they were in the SPL. He's been in England with Northampton Town and Darlington and is now aged 30.

For me he's just the sort of experienced player we could do with in midfield.

Everybody seems in agreement so far-if 'we' want him enough I hope 'we' can tempt him. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-23 07:39:18
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 23 2007, 05:50 AM) [snapback]293091[/snapback]
Willowman is a drunk who is not up early but is just late in going to bed.

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Willow's a DRUNK! sad.gif

He'll probably disagree midTONs!

Anyhow, so was Winston Churchill. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-23 07:40:39
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jun 23 2007, 07:36 AM) [snapback]293103[/snapback]
Carry on Ernie. Lang may yer lum reek smile.gif

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mortonjag 2007-06-23 07:48:01
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 23 2007, 07:44 AM) [snapback]293107[/snapback]
i always think most people that talk about themselves in the third person are wankers

..and in the plural- Royalty, or is that the same?
mortonjag 2007-06-23 07:51:57
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 23 2007, 07:39 AM) [snapback]293105[/snapback]
since you dont know the reasoning behind my voting for the bnp its no good just coming out with the same old nazi skinhead thug stuff. just like supporters of other political parties i do not agree with every policy of the manifesto. but then again its a world of electronical free speach so batter on, post whatever links you like, if it makes me look like a cyber tit then so be it.

..unless one posts in the third person, when one becomes a wAnker-like the vast majority of B.N.P activists.
mortonjag 2007-06-23 07:56:02
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 23 2007, 07:52 AM) [snapback]293112[/snapback]
there are no exceptions to this rule. but i take it mentaljag is referring to himself in the third person because it's a character a guy called ernie has created for the purpose of annoying everyone on here.

at least that's what i'm getting from the ramble above, which i admittedly only skimmed.

Not EVERYONE, and not ALWAYS-but you're a good skimmer! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-23 08:01:23
QUOTE(HamCam @ Jun 23 2007, 07:48 AM) [snapback]293110[/snapback]
Fairly certain the word baws never made it into the various studies

As for the common sense issue please feel free to review the various studies.

Baws indeed.

Local income tax-idealistically sound, and practically impossible.

A chancers' charter to be imposed by those who understand the quality.
mortonjag 2007-06-23 08:48:17
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 23 2007, 08:21 AM) [snapback]293116[/snapback]
Ernie ?? ohmy.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2007-06-23 08:50:23
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 23 2007, 08:21 AM) [snapback]293117[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2007-06-23 09:02:58
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 23 2007, 08:51 AM) [snapback]293123[/snapback]
ohmy.gif ohmy.gif huh.gif rolleyes.gif

More power to your elbow MJ.

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mortonjag 2007-06-23 09:04:39
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 23 2007, 08:53 AM) [snapback]293124[/snapback]
That's not very PC. He is alcoholically dependant smile.gif

...and at the moment horizontally too by the sound of it!
mortonjag 2007-06-23 09:07:46
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 23 2007, 09:03 AM) [snapback]293127[/snapback]
that must have taken you a good while to think up, and to re-edit it unsure.gif and did you just say im a bnp activist ?

If that's addressed to Mortonjag-he simply suggested that the majority of B.N.P activists are wAnkers.

Whatever made you take that personally?
mortonjag 2007-06-23 09:11:45
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 23 2007, 08:57 AM) [snapback]293125[/snapback]
mortonjag is SO old that ...

VS

WS

XS


have special meaning to him.
Can you imagine Inverclyde wilth less than 1,000 motor cars ???
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

laugh.gif

I wonder if that wee band ever bought

1 NXS Newt?
mortonjag 2007-06-23 09:16:32
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jun 23 2007, 09:12 AM) [snapback]293133[/snapback]
All the St Johnstone fans are basing their opinions on when he was a kid before he went to Fulham. He will have matured a lot since they last seen him play, whereas we have seen him four times this season, and the Alloa fans have seen him all year.... who's opinion is more likely to be the most accurate and fair?

Kieran has stood out for me, just as Jamie did the season before last, and if Kieran is anywhere near as impressive for us he'll have been well worth the money.

Are Alloa now our feeder club, as we've signed their best player for the last two seasons for a combined £25k laugh.gif

ThornTON in 'talks sense' shocker. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-23 10:39:02
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 23 2007, 10:19 AM) [snapback]293150[/snapback]
Doctor my arse, you drove the fastest milk cart in the west, didn't you?

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2007-06-23 10:51:01
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 23 2007, 09:35 AM) [snapback]293141[/snapback]
In FM2007 parlance, I´d call him "First Team" but not "Key"... yet. I think if he shows a good attitude then he´ll turn out to be a fine signing.

His drop through the leagues is not purely down to a lack of ability, basically, and if Jim can get the best out of him - and as I´ve said elsewhere I think this is a department in which McInally shines - then we´ll have ourselves a player.

As in Mathers, Templeman, Finlayson, Stevenson, McGowan, Russell, Walker etc Nach0?

My perception is that players never fulfil their reputation -or not initially at least.

McAnespie's experienced, and streetwise. He seems to have turned round his attitude, and hopefully WILL be a key player for us in a not particularly talented first division. I've always said that we need three or four players of the right type, and we can challenge for promotion. I still believe that.
mortonjag 2007-06-23 10:53:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 23 2007, 09:41 AM) [snapback]293142[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

Is it true that you have ....

RU12 ?

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FU 2, actually! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-23 10:59:04
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 23 2007, 10:48 AM) [snapback]293161[/snapback]
He came back with half a kilo of coke rammed up his back passage, thats why it was a "business trip".

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The wit of this man, and he hits the 'huff button' to avoid 'drivel'!!! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-23 11:12:04
QUOTE(C B @ Jun 23 2007, 11:00 AM) [snapback]293170[/snapback]
Thats ageist !

I have it under good authority that MJ is still under 70 !!

Just a young pup really ! Although rumour has it they didnt have History lessons when he was at school, they had Current Affairs wink.gif

Rubbish-and who are you calling a current CB? mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-23 11:13:58 Hammering home his point via the 'huff button'! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-23 11:17:53
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 23 2007, 11:11 AM) [snapback]293177[/snapback]
Sick Boy.

Watched it once-after Sweet Sixteen in fact-found it pretty drivelly TBH. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-23 11:20:42
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 23 2007, 11:15 AM) [snapback]293182[/snapback]
Anyone want a mention!!! rolleyes.gif

Am nervous huh.gif

Positivity boys who are never happier than when they're havin' a free 'Fudgy Wudgy' up the back at Fort Matilda.
mortonjag 2007-06-23 11:22:35
QUOTE(C B @ Jun 23 2007, 11:16 AM) [snapback]293183[/snapback]
I would never refer to anyone as dried up fruit, least of all you MJ biggrin.gif

I AM an old prune CB-but NEVER a current! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-23 14:52:03
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 23 2007, 01:38 PM) [snapback]293227[/snapback]
Didn't you think he was being Ernest tongue.gif

MJ for Moderator biggrin.gif

If offered, like a deviant pathologist I'd 'shove it' in dead earnest.
mortonjag 2007-06-23 15:00:53
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 23 2007, 02:42 PM) [snapback]293273[/snapback]
No, I'm Mortonjag!

I'm Colkitto
mortonjag 2007-06-23 15:03:19
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 23 2007, 02:39 PM) [snapback]293270[/snapback]
My tastes in food are far too sophisticated for such excrement.

Half pounders and Irn Bru.
mortonjag 2007-06-23 15:06:01
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 23 2007, 02:52 PM) [snapback]293282[/snapback]
Fellahs like arklesTON make this too easy.

Don't you knock Narky Mick-BTW what IS this 'this' of which you speak?

Newt says they've given you a post in the Crow's Nest-is he at the 'wind up'?
mortonjag 2007-06-23 15:08:00
QUOTE(C B @ Jun 23 2007, 11:34 AM) [snapback]293204[/snapback]
laugh.gif leave them for Monkey's muesli eh rolleyes.gif

The monkey does not partake of pufe food.
mortonjag 2007-06-23 15:11:36
QUOTE(tontastic @ Jun 23 2007, 01:45 PM) [snapback]293228[/snapback]
I think that someone keeps on trying to bring the server down through a Denial Of Service attack kinda thing ... we keep getting flooded with weird requests. Perhaps some is trying to supress free speech?

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mortonjag 2007-06-23 15:17:51 Mr Hardie, if perchance you browse our humble 'rag' may I apologise for the rude manner of my fellow posters?




















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YA WEE FAT CVNT
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mortonjag 2007-06-23 15:25:18
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 23 2007, 02:22 PM) [snapback]293250[/snapback]
Dunno what you´re getting at with Mathers and Finlayson, really... I think JM deserves credit for Temps´change in form, Stevenson... well, jury´s still out there, and McGowan´s a fine player who I hope returns to the club.

I´m really not bothered one way or the other about Ryan Russell, truth be told, as I never saw anything that made me think, "wow, there´s the next George Weah" or something.

I guess it depends where McAnespie´s playing as to how much he´s going to contribute and in what way.

Kev was the key man in Stranraer's promotion-came here taking a drop in wages to go full time, and was initially regarded by the Board as a crucial player in our promotion squad.

The rest's history. I could go on Nach0, but you know what happens when I ask questions! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-23 15:36:42
QUOTE(Benin Dahomey @ Jun 23 2007, 12:49 PM) [snapback]293211[/snapback]
I might have picked you up wrong here, but i don't think i agree with you on that last bit. Of course everyone has a right to say their piece, but that doesn't make what they say equally valid. A racist's opinions are not of equal validity to everyone elses on certain topics, for example. (unless you just meant equally valid as in having an equal right to say it?)

MINCE Benny boy.

His opinions may be perceived as immoral, and he may (IMO) correctly be chucked in jail for the EFFECTS of his opinions, but the former as equally valid with yours and mine.

Your opinion's what you think and believe, and like your Willie, short of rape, you're entitled to do exactly what you please with it without some surgeon tailoring it to suit his perception of normality.

Using the same analogy I'd suggest that attempting opinion 'rape' is a crime almost as bad as succumbing to it.
mortonjag 2007-06-23 15:47:49
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 23 2007, 03:39 PM) [snapback]293332[/snapback]
In your opinion.
In my Stalinist diktat, that is not the case. cool.gif

In my opinion your opinion is valid in your Stalinist diktat, but as I've suggested-you may suffer if you try to foist it on others.

In MY opinion all opinions are equally valid-pure and simple-nobody has the right to suppress freedom of thought and speech.

mortonjag 2007-06-23 15:51:06
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 23 2007, 02:54 PM) [snapback]293284[/snapback]
It's also pretty rich to hear someone that refers to the Republic of Ireland as "Potato Republic" talk about bigotry. laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2007-06-23 15:52:57
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 23 2007, 03:06 PM) [snapback]293298[/snapback]
Ive now taken you off ignore so i can continue our cultured debate.

Now, what is so bigoted about a Potato?

Potatoes are a brilliant food, you can boil, roast, fry, fritter, cream, curry, chip them et more. You can make a nice Dauphinoise with them, a shepherds Pie, a Gratin, fishcakes, a potato salad, Soup and hunners more.

Such a versatile food, i'll bet the majority of people on this website that like potatoes in some form, so please explain why potatoes are bigoted??

Nothin' tae beat a big tattie stuffed doon yer troosers when yer 'on the pull'.
mortonjag 2007-06-23 15:54:30
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 23 2007, 03:14 PM) [snapback]293306[/snapback]
Turnips are definitely masonic.

..and Swedes are Vikings.
mortonjag 2007-06-23 15:56:36
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 23 2007, 03:52 PM) [snapback]293341[/snapback]
But your opinion has henceforth been invalidated. tongue.gif

vikingTON for Moderator? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-23 16:06:44
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 23 2007, 03:58 PM) [snapback]293351[/snapback]
Indeed.
Turkeys are also Muslims.

Sikh and ye shall find.
mortonjag 2007-06-23 16:08:23 In veritas.
mortonjag 2007-06-23 16:09:34
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 23 2007, 04:02 PM) [snapback]293354[/snapback]
That's what Victoria said. laugh.gif

adding that 'She was not amused'.
mortonjag 2007-06-23 16:38:59
QUOTE(edd @ Jun 23 2007, 04:28 PM) [snapback]293363[/snapback]
that'll be why they never vote for christmas then ...

..and only gobble Halal.
mortonjag 2007-06-23 16:43:14
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 23 2007, 04:27 PM) [snapback]293361[/snapback]
That the Spice Girls were reforming and she was the last to be asked tongue.gif

Posh has already done the reforming.

Cost a fortune too.
mortonjag 2007-06-23 16:46:45
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 23 2007, 04:27 PM) [snapback]293362[/snapback]
Finlayson was apparently an attacking player with Stranraer. Having only seem them play when it was against us, I´m not 100% sure, but that´s my memory of it.

On almost all his attacking showings with us, Kev has been let down - massively so - by his final ball. But in a defensive position he is, for me, still a worthy squad player. It´s rare to see him caught out of position because he so readily tracks back (although this can damage the attack) and I always thought he was decent in the tackle.

Is Jim somehow responsible for Kevin losing his attacking touch? I don´t know. It seems unlikely. If it was a confidence issue then maybe it´d affect his defending as well, but it could just be at crosses when he chokes. No idea.

If you´re implying he´s been left out to dry by the management then I disagree. He´s still in and around the squad. I imagine you´d be complaining if he was left in position week after week despite not playing well.

Nach0 in MJesque ramble.

You said JM is good at getting the best out of players. Did he get the best out of Finlayson?
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mortonjag 2007-06-23 17:07:12
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 23 2007, 05:06 PM) [snapback]293440[/snapback]
I canny wait till this board goes down. dry.gif

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mortonjag 2007-06-23 17:08:23
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 23 2007, 05:07 PM) [snapback]293448[/snapback]
I'm the only one working today then aye? rolleyes.gif

AW!

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mortonjag 2007-06-23 17:09:39
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Jun 23 2007, 05:07 PM) [snapback]293446[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2007-06-23 17:11:50
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 23 2007, 05:08 PM) [snapback]293456[/snapback]
It's the same four rogues every time. dry.gif

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mortonjag 2007-06-23 17:13:41
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mortonjag 2007-06-23 17:14:50
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 23 2007, 05:13 PM) [snapback]293477[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2007-06-23 17:15:31
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 23 2007, 05:14 PM) [snapback]293478[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2007-06-23 17:16:26
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 23 2007, 05:15 PM) [snapback]293484[/snapback]
Think you could have worded that better or Deego might think something else laugh.gif

Knotty boy!
mortonjag 2007-06-23 17:19:15
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 23 2007, 05:16 PM) [snapback]293488[/snapback]
It's good tae rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2007-06-23 17:24:55
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Jun 23 2007, 05:11 PM) [snapback]293468[/snapback]
What a pointless post this is. If you wanted to stop people saying you were talking p*ss or pm'n you how's about you just said heehaw to start with. oh aye and get a life!!

You're Donkey Dave! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-23 17:26:58
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 23 2007, 05:12 PM) [snapback]293472[/snapback]
Take that back or face the axe in your face.

While you're being rogued.

Physical impossibility.
mortonjag 2007-06-23 17:27:54
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 23 2007, 05:17 PM) [snapback]293491[/snapback]
Im trying to laugh with all the posts, but i hurt the back this afternoon and finding it hard to breathe at times. On top of that the missus is in hospital, im shattered, nae sleep, canny be arsed doing anything tbh. Typical sat with nae fitba sad.gif

Ribs?
mortonjag 2007-06-23 17:31:44
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 23 2007, 05:30 PM) [snapback]293509[/snapback]
I happen to disagree.

Your opinion may not accord with anatomical fact.
mortonjag 2007-06-23 17:34:34
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 23 2007, 05:10 PM) [snapback]293466[/snapback]
Naw, ahm urnae. blink.gif

Aye y'ur.
mortonjag 2007-06-23 17:36:06
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 23 2007, 05:34 PM) [snapback]293515[/snapback]
Excuse me sir, but I did not say how the axe would be thrusted into the face.
It could be thrown ala the francesca axe throwers of the Franks. tongue.gif

Clearly you've not seen MJ roguing! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-23 17:40:20
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 23 2007, 05:38 PM) [snapback]293520[/snapback]
Sick mortonjag, sick. mellow.gif

Well-what do you wear when you're roguing young Deegan? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-23 17:41:25
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 23 2007, 05:34 PM) [snapback]293513[/snapback]
PORT GLASGOW IS A TERRORIST HAVEN

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mortonjag 2007-06-23 17:42:15
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 23 2007, 05:34 PM) [snapback]293516[/snapback]
Naw, ahm urnae.

Aye ya f*ckin' ur
mortonjag 2007-06-23 17:43:58
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 23 2007, 05:41 PM) [snapback]293523[/snapback]
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Leave me alone fuxake. laugh.gif

Who are you callin' fuxake-shagspain
mortonjag 2007-06-23 17:44:55
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 23 2007, 05:43 PM) [snapback]293526[/snapback]
Naw, ahm f***in' no'!

ye f*ckin' ur ya wee c*nt
mortonjag 2007-06-23 17:46:10
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 23 2007, 05:33 PM) [snapback]293512[/snapback]
I do.

Do whit?
mortonjag 2007-06-23 17:47:40
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 23 2007, 05:46 PM) [snapback]293529[/snapback]
Naw ahm urnae, ya daft wee smelly turd mashin' tadger.

ah bake mines ya pr*ck
mortonjag 2007-06-23 17:55:45
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 23 2007, 05:51 PM) [snapback]293535[/snapback]
I do think...

You mean you 'think' you think Descartes!
mortonjag 2007-06-23 17:56:35
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 23 2007, 05:52 PM) [snapback]293537[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2007-06-23 17:58:15
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 23 2007, 05:49 PM) [snapback]293534[/snapback]
You're beginning to irk me.

You heard me creeping in!
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QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 23 2007, 05:52 PM) [snapback]293536[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2007-06-24 06:20:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 24 2007, 01:57 AM) [snapback]293775[/snapback]
Gidday WillowMan,

Is this mair sedition I see ??

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Sedition and negativity in the extreme-I think LargsTON should be thoroughly ashamed of himself. laugh.gif

Let's face it, there's an excuse for a semi-demented old recluse like Mortonjag and his equally intellectually challenged cyberfag-NewTon.

Nevertheless I'll repeat what I've said before.

I believe Shoogly is on the horns of a dilemma.

He knows we desperately need SPL status to comfortably move out of the red, and I've never cynically suggested he keeps us there for tax advantages as others have, but his budget is obviously limited.

I've also suggested that that limitation MAY be voluntary, and that he IS able to spend more.

If the latter applies, I've commended that he 'go for it'. He's in his seventies-he loves the Ton-he deserves to see us in the top division before he leaves.

If on the other hand, he's pretty well 'hit the buffers' financially (in Morton terms), I abhor his persistence with the 'Not for sale as long as I have breath in my body' statement.

Why can't others open their eyes to reality instead of ripping this anonymous old fart to pieces and wanting his posts curbed every time he mentions the Chairman.

Dougie wants the best for the Ton
Mortonjag wants the best for the Ton

Who is right?

Over to you Shoogly!


MORE SEDITION
mortonjag 2007-06-24 06:34:35
QUOTE(Benin Dahomey @ Jun 23 2007, 07:15 PM) [snapback]293559[/snapback]
nah, i think you're wrong on this one.

you've defined 'opinion' as what you think and believe. some people can think and believe 'falsehoods'. therefore, their opinion is not as valid as those who think and believe 'truths'.

i will agree with you to the extent that people have a right to think and believe (and say) what they want. i disagree with you on the idea that this is a relative issue. some opinions, beliefs, etc are just plain wrong (like the racists) and as such can not be equally valid with others.

The very definition of 'opinion' implies that it is not a factual matter.

In that sense, on a given topic, someone may be 'right', wrong' or somewhere in between.

If my opinion-that your opinion of your logical ability is exaggerated-is wrong, that does not make the former any less valid.

IN MY OPINION!
mortonjag 2007-06-24 06:38:41
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 23 2007, 08:48 PM) [snapback]293609[/snapback]
hate to say it but i'd agree with mj on this.

first of all, define "valid" - otherwise we'll go round in circles.

we all (may) have opinions - just because some may be a bit wonky does not make them less "valid"

Trumpet my love-did you read 'Animal Farm' ever?

All opinions are equally valid, but on this forum some are MORE equally valid than others! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-24 06:47:23
QUOTE(MrX @ Jun 23 2007, 07:55 PM) [snapback]293584[/snapback]
What an annoyingly pointless thread, what a tit.

MrX, I notice you haven't posted often. Is that because you're easily annoyed, regard others' opinions as invalid, and have an aversion to songbirds?


'One liners' like yours go relatively unnoticed by those too busy trying to muffle arrogant and intolerant insurrectionists like this poster.

You are of course, thoroughly entitled to your opinion, and to voice it.

For what it's worth, you sound like a self satisfied pr*ck.
mortonjag 2007-06-24 06:49:52
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 24 2007, 06:40 AM) [snapback]293849[/snapback]
There are no such things as facts. There are only opinions. And that's a fact.

RLY DE! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-24 06:51:11
QUOTE(marx @ Jun 24 2007, 06:37 AM) [snapback]293847[/snapback]
Why are you up at this time? Just asking not being rude..

6.37 a.m on a lovely midsummers morning is NOT early. That's a fact, though Mr Edwards may disagree! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-24 06:53:00
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 22 2007, 09:54 PM) [snapback]292942[/snapback]
And your point is?

...obvious to anyone with half a brain.
mortonjag 2007-06-24 06:55:14
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Jun 23 2007, 10:39 PM) [snapback]293676[/snapback]
Shockin MJ...fekin shockin...I think you meant to say....

YA WEE FAT BLIND FCUK WIT O A CHEATIN b*****d.........nae herm meant yer just a wee wanker......

Knotty!
mortonjag 2007-06-24 06:59:15
QUOTE(froggybinos @ Jun 23 2007, 11:42 PM) [snapback]293703[/snapback]
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I am delighted.

The incident happened 4 or 5 months ago. I never obviosuly heard the f*** of mcnally comments...however, i did bring to the medias attention the fact that he refused to shake hands with mcnally, and also stepped in front of an assistant to stop mcnally shaking his hand.

The guy was a wee hitler, and will not be missed.

I personally feel this decision was made due to my continued barracking of Hardie to the SFA. So any Morton fan willing to buy me booze at games next season as a thank you i am happy to accept...allong with some food.
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Well done Monsieur Grenuille Blanche.

Those in authority must be above reproach and at all times ensure that impartiality is implemented.

Allowing himself to become personally embroiled is a human failing and he has been suitably punished.

All moderators, politicians, churchmen etc.-MARK MY WORDS!
mortonjag 2007-06-24 07:07:09
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jun 24 2007, 01:24 AM) [snapback]293747[/snapback]
back to the subject, I still believe that McAnnespie will be a great player for us and will get the oppertunity to showcase what he can really do when he is playing in a side that has aspirations of playing at a higher level again.Wether we can attract the king of quality and experience that is required to win the league is debatable but what we should all be looking at is can we consolidate our position in this league and have a genuine push 2008-2009.

some people just want too much too quick, we have a good side at the moment who with a wee bit more guile and quality will in my reckoning upset a few apple carts along the road of 2007-2008 and will ultimately impact on where the title goes. Kieran will be an integral part and will be a big part of the team, whilst he may not be the big name people want he is quality and experience. Those with the pitch forks and hang mans nooses whowant to string the guy up please show some patience and lets see what happens. The proof will be in the pudding.

I agree generally AJC, but explain WHY we have to 'consolidate' YET AGAIN

I'm not saying you're wrong, but if you look at LargsTON's thread I've put my points there.

IMO we took an eternity to get moving, when in truth, we should have been able to hop up the leagues one season at a time. Nothing has changed behind the scenes, and for me 'consolidation' is simply a euphemism for not being quite sure where we're going.
mortonjag 2007-06-24 07:12:18
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 23 2007, 08:59 PM) [snapback]293617[/snapback]
Will go to as many as I can , but will definitely not go to the St Johnstone game due to their 'taking the p1sh policy' of charging £17. I know it's only a quid more than some - but I really hope their greed backfires on them.

I'm for a boycott. mad.gif

A classical case of heart ruling head, and to mix metaphors, shooting yourself in the foot.

I abhor the decision just like you, but for an extra £6 or so over the course of a whole season I'd not deprive myself of the pleasure of watching the Ton.

Please don't come out with any 'Leftie' 'rich b*****d stuff'-you'll only get me going and I'll upset dyspeptic overseers.
mortonjag 2007-06-24 07:15:32
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jun 24 2007, 01:40 AM) [snapback]293766[/snapback]
look I am sick of some of the negative stuff on the forum at the moment, McAnespie played at alloa and ayr recently, so what, he was part time with teams with lower standard players than ours, he has experience and quality, our team as a whole has quality and ability to play good football and he will add to that as will anyone else who comes in. Take my word for it we will not be whipping boys next season we will have a say in where the title ultimately goes. I dont think we will be in the bottom half of the table. Our team will be up for the challenge next season no matter if we have more new players or not, the boys aint daft. We were going stale in the 2nd and i believe had we not won it this season then we would be there a while longer as the players were no longer interested.

we will do well this season so get rid of the negativity the thing we also have in our favour is a group of good players who are young and have played together for a while, the odd change is good but too many is counter produtive.

AJC-those negativity boys are never happier than when they're having a moan on this 'rag'.


Yours Aye

Mortonjag.
mortonjag 2007-06-24 07:18:05
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 23 2007, 07:48 PM) [snapback]293579[/snapback]
Also because he's realistic with his targets and doesn't aim for players who were NEVER going to sign for us in the first place.

There's plenty of journeymen out there who could get us to the SPL without splashing out three or four big wages and signing on fees on the likes of Sutton and Mensing.

McCall's got it spot on with the calibre of player he's signing and I fully expect them to finish at least fourth.

Bookmark that if you want! tongue.gif

Totally agree-the first Division's no SPL.
mortonjag 2007-06-24 07:22:15
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 24 2007, 07:13 AM) [snapback]293860[/snapback]
I will miss him, most likely. My aim is hopeless.

That has to be the epitome of litosis DE-he must morphologically be the nearest thing to a dartboard ever seen blowing his own trumpet and whistle on a fitba' park!
mortonjag 2007-06-24 07:31:30
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 24 2007, 12:43 AM) [snapback]293728[/snapback]
Well why bother visiting this website if you don't like Pre Season fun tongue.gif

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I've had quite enough of this puerlie nonsense-I've a good mind to clype














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to MR Tontastic, and he'll sort ye's oot!

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There again, maybe he'll be angry with me, and I don't like when MR Tontastic's angry

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mortonjag 2007-06-24 07:38:06
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jun 24 2007, 07:23 AM) [snapback]293865[/snapback]
Totally agree that up to now our progress has been glacial but I'm not sure that the idea of consolidation in the 1st is necessarily bad. I can't see the benefit of reaching the SPL before we have built a team that for the most part could stay there and at this time we are a long way short of that.

The additional cost of upgrading Scapa to meet the required standard will not be cheap and as we don't have a tame council that will supply us with a stadium then GMFC/DDFR will have to dig deep to make that a reality. Trying to strengthen a team at the same time is probably a bridge too far for us at the mo.

That sounds wise-my main point remains that ultimately it's a book balancing exercise.

I believe that IF he is financially able and willing it's perfectly possible (other factors addressed like delegation etc.) for Shoogly to enjoy a few seasons of SPL football.

I'd like him to 'go for broke', or invite somebody to join with him financially if he can't/won't.

I just don't buy into the 'master plan'- it's been more 'suck it and see' I'd suggest.
mortonjag 2007-06-24 07:47:15
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 23 2007, 08:13 PM) [snapback]293592[/snapback]
so are you for - or against - "FREE SPEECH"?

Of course I am-all human beings are entitled to it! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-24 07:49:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 24 2007, 06:24 AM) [snapback]293844[/snapback]
Aliases should be banned.

Couldn't agree more Mr Trollbuster. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-24 08:10:58
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 24 2007, 07:55 AM) [snapback]293875[/snapback]
Nothing wrong with a bit of sexism. tongue.gif

...nicely complimented by a modicum of alcoholism! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-24 08:44:12
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 24 2007, 08:22 AM) [snapback]293878[/snapback]
I'm probably 'saving a stitch' and cutting my nose off as you say but I'm prepared to miss out on this game. I believe quite a few others will do the same (certainly the 2/3 who travel in my car any way laugh.gif )

Our attempt to tinker with supply and demand may be futile , but feck it, we'll try.

So be strong ,brother - there are plenty of games to see( at reasonable prices)

To the barricades ! (as Chairman Manky said)

I salute your resolve and look forward to seeing you at McDermid park in the near future. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-24 08:59:37
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Jun 24 2007, 08:46 AM) [snapback]293889[/snapback]
I am going to attempt all away games where and if possible, my friend and I went to a few last season and my Mum and Dad started coming!

Some places you can make a day out of.

Edit please before ThornTON completes his second shave in as many months.
mortonjag 2007-06-24 09:01:03
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 24 2007, 08:58 AM) [snapback]293895[/snapback]
Eh...... there's no mention of this in the SFA website and his profile is still on the Referees section. unsure.gif

http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/referee_profil...;viewcategory=1

Might be on GMFC.net!
mortonjag 2007-06-24 09:02:36 What's he feart of?
mortonjag 2007-06-24 10:04:45
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 24 2007, 09:37 AM) [snapback]293925[/snapback]
I don´t know, I´ve never seen Finlayson at any other club. Probably not, though. But short of playing him week after week with the express goal of improving his crossing then... well, if we have other players who can play on the right then I´d rather see that.

As a rule, Kev (and maybe 1-2 others aside) I think man-management is one of Jim´s strengths. Maybe not in every case but certainly in most cases.

Once more, I really couldn´t care less about Ryan Russell tongue.gif

That's an extremely vague statement of the type which others accept mindlessly Nach0.

If 'man management' means motivation, I have grave reservations.

Finlayson is but one example.

Almost every single player who's come here has failed in one or another way to fulfil his reputation. Templeman is the classsical example-the boy clearly needed a 'guiding hand' when expectation was so high-thankfully it was sorted in the end.

Jamie's not been half the man he was with Alloa.

Bobby Linn's been slated unreasonably, because of overt favouritism towards a Cellic 'striker' who can't grab chances.

Ryan Russell's NEVER had a proper chance-I'm NOT saying he's great, but he IS a left winger, and the only one we've got.

Alex Walker's been used as a dogsbody-a far better footballer than Deano (whom I do rate), or Scotty. I could go on!

Man management Nach0, involves the whole psychological wellbeing of the squad.

Frankly I think that, as in other things, JM has much to learn.
mortonjag 2007-06-24 10:20:44
QUOTE(Benin Dahomey @ Jun 24 2007, 09:24 AM) [snapback]293920[/snapback]
please try and not be insulting. i know a lot of what you do on here is just to wind people up, but it gets in the way of what could actually be a decent (subtle) debate.

on the definition of 'opinion': i take it to mean 'an opinion is not necessarily founded on facts or proofs, not that it is not a factual matter. in response to trumping ton, i would say that 'valid' is defined as being factually true. (i don't know why you are questioning my logical ability, as 'valid' in a logical sense means something entirely different from how we are using the term in this thread). so, although someone's opinion may not be founded on facts or proofs, there still may be a 'fact of the matter'. whether or not their opinion is valid, then, depends on how well their opinion matches up with this 'fact of the matter'.

having said that, given what you said in your second sentence in the above quote, i think we might actually be in a sort of broad agreement. we're just taking two different definitions of 'valid' and so are talking past each other. i would argue, however, that whether someone is right or wrong or somewhere in between on a given topic depends on what their opinion on that topic is, and so their opinion on that topic is likewise either right or wrong or somewhere in between (i.e valid or not valid or somewhere in between).

p.s. i know that it is sort of in vogue just now to claim that for a lot of issues there is no 'fact of the matter' (i.e. a sort of cultural relativism) i do not agree with this position and so if this is what our disagreement amounts to we will just have to agree to disagree.

You'll definitely get that doctorate Mr Bahomey-you have an uncanny knack of anaesthetising the reader to the point of concession.

I was not being insulting BTW-I DO believe you have an inflated opinion of your logical ability-that's just an opinion-it doesn't make me think any less of you as a fellow human.
mortonjag 2007-06-24 11:41:34
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 24 2007, 10:54 AM) [snapback]293941[/snapback]
Those are mostly fair points and I´m the first to agree that Jim´s not the finished article - but I genuinely do think that the majority of the squad is better for his being here.

The only part I really disagree with is Bobby Linn. People surely can only slate him based on his own performances, not McGowan´s. For my money, McGowan is simply a better player. Sure, there´s nothing wrong with a bit of squad rotation but IMO for as long as we have McGowan he should be in and around the first team.

McGowan's a footballer-Linn's a striker (or primarily goalscorer, if that suits better).
Linn missed several golden opportunities in the few matches he got. My judgement was that he was SO desperate to prove himself that he did the opposite. Time will tell, but his record elsewhere was OK.
mortonjag 2007-06-24 11:53:20 I may have experienced the'FEAR'.

Truth is I canny remember! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-24 11:54:55
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 24 2007, 09:19 AM) [snapback]293915[/snapback]
No, I'm the trollbuster.

I was 'at it' Colkitto!
mortonjag 2007-06-24 12:12:53
QUOTE(MrX @ Jun 24 2007, 12:06 PM) [snapback]293955[/snapback]
1. MrX, I notice you haven't posted often. - Correct, I haven't posted often. I live abroad and only get to 7/8 games a season, so use the forum to keep up to date on what happening at the club. I'm very appreciative to the posters who allow me to do this.

2. Is that because you're easily annoyed? - No.

3. regard others' opinions as invalid? - No, Se65n's post never offered an opinion.

4. have an aversion to songbirds? - Yes.

5. 'One liners' like yours go relatively unnoticed by those too busy trying to muffle arrogant and intolerant insurrectionists like this poster. - Thats fine, knock yourself out.

6. For what it's worth, you sound like a self satisfied pr*ck. - That's an opinion.

Look forward to reading more of your informative and highly opinionated posts in the future Morton Jag wink.gif

I've clearly misjudged you MrX-my posts are indeed highly opinionated and informative, and shall remain so, if only for your benefit. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-24 12:14:41
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 24 2007, 12:11 PM) [snapback]293961[/snapback]
Probably because it hasn't been officially announced yet and is probably unlikely to be.

Like our site it might not be up to date.

He can still referee but only up to amateur level.

My understanding is he can't referee Junior games either.

He'll probably just retire from the game altogether.

and get fatter.
mortonjag 2007-06-24 12:22:47
QUOTE(C B @ Jun 24 2007, 12:13 PM) [snapback]293964[/snapback]
Man i've seen some pointless threads on this messageboard, but this is right up there !
"I know something but i'm not goint to talk about it"..........discuss tongue.gif
Baldrick would be proud rolleyes.gif

You're on dangerous territority Mr C Bean!

This is 'rag' country-not the National Philosophical Society.

I salute Sean-he has the courage of his convictions-many would have spilled the beans, broken a confidentiality, but he has kept his secret.

Let's hear all the rumours of rumours with total professionalism I say. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-24 12:36:37
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 24 2007, 12:32 PM) [snapback]293982[/snapback]
Cue another 10 page thread of retort from MJ laugh.gif

No way Chrissiboi-not when Bahomey's still lurking-he'd write a megatome to prove his tiny tadger had transmuted into a Shoogly sized 'Fudgy Fudgy' if he thought anybody would pay attention.
mortonjag 2007-06-24 14:14:14
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 24 2007, 01:22 PM) [snapback]294013[/snapback]
But to those with full brains the point is oblivious. dry.gif

The point is oblivious? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-24 14:18:41
QUOTE(C B @ Jun 24 2007, 12:09 PM) [snapback]293957[/snapback]
Its like Deja-vu all over again !

Can't believe the old McGowan Linn debate is back.

Linn never got a chance to prove if he was better or worse than McGowan. I think its fair to say on last years performances McGowan is the better player but we all wrote off Templeman this time last year when he NEVER got a chance ! dry.gif

Thing that annoyed me at the time (seeing as we're talking about it) was McGowan wasn't playing to his best at times, yet still he was #2 on the team sheet every week (after McAllister) when we had a keen "striker" waiting in the wings.

Point of fact now, Linn is a Morton player, McGowan ISN'T and this is what berates me most about the situation last year. We ALL knew it would come to this. mad.gif
On the Jamie Stevenson thing, i actually know about the situation here but without giving too much away, its not all JMs fault, Jamie is a bit horizontal in the attitude department and i don't think JMs management allows for that, which is a shame, because he needs to know how to motivate himself POSITIVELY not NEGATIVELY as is the JM way !

Mr Bean, it's refreshing to hear from somebody who actually knows a little from behind the scenes.
mortonjag 2007-06-24 14:20:33
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 24 2007, 01:30 PM) [snapback]294024[/snapback]
What the feck is litosis? mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

What the f*ck's a dictionary? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-24 14:24:51
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 24 2007, 02:16 PM) [snapback]294053[/snapback]
I clearly used "litosis" in that post. dry.gif

Not at all. You just let yourself down badly in the grammar department. You're a clever chappie-don't they teach those things any more, or has this cantankerous old curmudgeon finally lost his marbles?
mortonjag 2007-06-24 14:26:33
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 24 2007, 02:21 PM) [snapback]294059[/snapback]
What the feck were you attempting to say?

I don't recall attempting to say anything. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-24 14:32:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 24 2007, 01:19 PM) [snapback]294008[/snapback]
Gidday Cet Homme Charmant,

Why are so many on these boards obsessed with the apostrophe ?

There is NO apostrophe in ...

ITS baws

ITS face.

smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

It's 'baws for shavin' time-it's 'face the music' time...

..if you like hairy baws newt! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-24 14:35:59
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 24 2007, 07:40 AM) [snapback]293869[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2007-06-24 14:44:47
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 24 2007, 02:09 PM) [snapback]294049[/snapback]
What sort of business does not advertise it's vacancies?
I went inside many shops, but not all of them.
Alas, Tesco won't be looking for new people as the big shop's shutting. sad.gif
Also, the ones in the Tele are p*sh at the mo.

Why don't you 'phone Golden Casket-I hear they're on the look out for trainee fudge packers.
mortonjag 2007-06-24 14:53:52
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 24 2007, 02:26 PM) [snapback]294063[/snapback]
Try this one: Dictionary
tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif


laugh.gif

It's just one of my senior moment words I'm afraid-do you know the one I intended?
mortonjag 2007-06-24 14:56:36
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 24 2007, 02:28 PM) [snapback]294064[/snapback]
Well you do believe "litosis" is a word in the English language.
Marbles lost indeed. tongue.gif
Perhaps your brain confused it with halitosis or something? unsure.gif wink.gif

Nope just a neologism incorporating litotes and meiosis-actually quite good come to think of it! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-24 15:01:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 24 2007, 02:56 PM) [snapback]294075[/snapback]
I pack no-one's fudge. tongue.gif

My-for a young and impecunious (looked that up) student you're offal choosy. Would you be averse to packing the odd half pounder?
mortonjag 2007-06-24 15:02:43
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 24 2007, 02:44 PM) [snapback]294069[/snapback]
Well Lancashire Hot Pot apparently knows all.
But he's no' telling.

RLY?
mortonjag 2007-06-24 15:05:58
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 24 2007, 02:55 PM) [snapback]294074[/snapback]
TBH I didn't have a clue what you were havering about. laugh.gif
Looking at the context, my best guess would be LITOTES: the deliberate understatement of a situation.

Doesn't have to be deliberate-often used in unconscious humour as when a manager says his team 'were a bit unlucky', after a thorough humping!
mortonjag 2007-06-24 15:13:52
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 24 2007, 02:59 PM) [snapback]294078[/snapback]
Neologisms are generally created by esteemed authors and intellectuals -
I doubt you fall into that category. tongue.gif
Considering THAT the deliberate understatement of a word and the production of
genetically different haploid gametes are in no way connected then I very much
doubt your word will enter popular use. laugh.gif


I have edited your contribution.

Neologisms more frequently evolve than are created.

I'd only ever judge an author by reading the material. Esteem is frequently a manifestation of 'sheep syndrome'.

How do you define an 'intellectual'? Half of the professors at Glasgow University are socially inept, and verge on schizophrenia.

If you simply mean somebody of high intelligence who uses that-aye I'm up for it-ain't you? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-24 16:48:52
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 24 2007, 03:16 PM) [snapback]294086[/snapback]
I don't think anyone has ever tried to link the understatement of events and the production
of haploid gametes for baby making - no matter their schizophrenic tendencies! laugh.gif

laugh.gif
I'd venture to suggest that's merely an opinion.
mortonjag 2007-06-24 18:38:19
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jun 24 2007, 06:25 PM) [snapback]294206[/snapback]
i made a double topic and he removed 1 of them

Just being nice.

...and which one does the poosy wish to discuss? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-24 18:46:12
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jun 24 2007, 05:03 PM) [snapback]294147[/snapback]
Why do people feel the need to try and outdo others.....

just read the stephen glass topic and it just got ridiculous.
Just stick to the issues in hand

Anybody agree or am i just pissed off at reading s***e?

If you are referring to my little liaison with the young Viking, I certainly was not trying to 'outdo' him, nor did I sense any attempt on his part to 'outdo' me.

I feel uncomfortable and inadequate, for example, when the youngsters go on at great length about bands, or 'wrastling'-I plainly know f*ck all about it, so I stay out-SIMPLE.

Flighty Boy-you appear to display arrogance and inverted snobbery-I'm surprised at you. I haven't even read another poster's comments yet, but suspect most will jump on your wee 'chippy shoulder' bandwagon.

Live and let live-freedom of speech, and


VIVE LA DIFFERENCE!
mortonjag 2007-06-24 18:53:32
QUOTE(tontastic @ Jun 24 2007, 05:45 PM) [snapback]294173[/snapback]
I'm trying out the ignore function as well ... so far its been great.

Nice to know that when you're in charge my posts are not being monitored.

Just another example of your inability to perform your function professionally.

I don't like lowering myself to the petty level of this thread Tontastic, but for f*ck's sake, and the good of all-grow up!
mortonjag 2007-06-24 18:57:33
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 24 2007, 06:13 PM) [snapback]294193[/snapback]
Wait... People are annoyed at threads going off topic??! wtf!? rofl... rolleyes.gif

laugh.gif

Mr Edinton-I'd humbly suggest that those people are the ones who need to 'get a life'-frustrated little Hitlers-everyone.

IMHO
mortonjag 2007-06-24 18:59:24
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jun 24 2007, 06:15 PM) [snapback]294197[/snapback]
Off topic is annoying but when MJ and the rest of his gang get going the board becomes there own domain....

I think Bryan is right.....have a MJ board all for himself

And when Flight Ton and his gang-including the impeccably professional MR Tontastic-get going it's yet again attempted censorship.
mortonjag 2007-06-24 19:03:50
QUOTE(lush @ Jun 24 2007, 06:21 PM) [snapback]294203[/snapback]
If anyone annoys you that much put them on ignore. rolleyes.gif

Lush, he doesn't want to put me on ignore-he isn't bright enough to realise he's making a complete fool of himself by yet again jumping on the 'bring down Mortonjag' bandwagon.

You're right-we're all bored-threads go off topic-we play silly games with Smileys etc-harmless fun-or so you'd have imagined! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-24 19:06:59
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jun 24 2007, 06:30 PM) [snapback]294208[/snapback]
they dont its just when you look at a topic title and think it will be an interesting subject and all of a sudden certain 'members' are having a slaging match and are off talking s***e.

Why should I or anyone else have too put up with it!!!!

rolleyes.gif

It's not actually compulsary-could it be that in secret, Mortonjag's contributions have a fatal attraction for certain posters?

Join Camera Man and push the 'huff button' if you're that upset! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-25 07:23:54
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 24 2007, 08:59 PM) [snapback]294382[/snapback]
a further outbreak of litosis. shouldn't this intellectual stuff be in General Nonsense? smile.gif


laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-25 07:31:09
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jun 24 2007, 06:50 PM) [snapback]294225[/snapback]
MJ

I have no argument with you but your little dig at me is uncalled for.
I am not as you say arrogant or a snob and i have in no way thrown insults your way.

Why do you do this?
How do you justify the insults.explain please?

I think that question answers itself.
mortonjag 2007-06-25 07:34:35
QUOTE(lush @ Jun 24 2007, 06:55 PM) [snapback]294230[/snapback]
He never said he had you on ignore. You are getting paranoid MJ. rolleyes.gif

Did he suggest, or imply it Lush? dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-25 07:37:47
QUOTE(Youngsa @ Jun 24 2007, 07:14 PM) [snapback]294253[/snapback]
While posts like this keep it floating well above mediocrity rolleyes.gif

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-25 07:38:35 laugh.gif
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jun 24 2007, 07:20 PM) [snapback]294260[/snapback]
You lost me ther...when did i have a go at you?

Please tell me as i dont think at anytime i did.

I didnt even have a go at MJ...

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-25 07:40:33
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jun 24 2007, 07:29 PM) [snapback]294268[/snapback]
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 24 2007, 02:59 PM)
Neologisms are generally created by esteemed authors and intellectuals -
I doubt you fall into that category.
Considering THAT the deliberate understatement of a word and the production of
genetically different haploid gametes are in no way connected then I very much
doubt your word will enter popular use.
I have edited your contribution.

Neologisms more frequently evolve than are created.

I'd only ever judge an author by reading the material. Esteem is frequently a manifestation of 'sheep syndrome'.

How do you define an 'intellectual'? Half of the professors at Glasgow University are socially inept, and verge on schizophrenia.

If you simply mean somebody of high intelligence who uses that-aye I'm up for it-ain't you?

This post has been edited by mortonjag: Today, 03:14 PM
The above was under a topic headline of Stephen Glass..........

Need i say more?

Indeed no-I can read you like a book.

P.S. Could you understand THAT?
mortonjag 2007-06-25 07:41:15
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jun 24 2007, 07:32 PM) [snapback]294272[/snapback]
At anytime did i mention you....i used the stephen glass topic as an example but at no time did i use names.

That is up to the reader of the post.There has been plenty of topics that wandered off the subject and it wasnt you or MJ who were involved.

If you take it upon yourself to say i was referring to you then fine but the word t*** was used in a general term not a personal one

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-25 07:42:23
QUOTE(Benin Dahomey @ Jun 24 2007, 07:35 PM) [snapback]294277[/snapback]
maybe we could have a poll asking if threads should stay on topic?

just a suggestion?

unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-25 07:43:34
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jun 24 2007, 07:41 PM) [snapback]294290[/snapback]
Here we go again......

I am not censoring anyone.

If you want to start an inntelectual(?) debate on the whys and what nots off life go to the General chatter forum and start a new topic.

Thats my point

unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-25 07:51:50
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Jun 24 2007, 08:12 PM) [snapback]294323[/snapback]
One thing FT isnt is arrogant,nor guilty of being snobbish in any way, believe me, I know him.....

Vader-I believe you and Flight are decent guys. I also believe that attempting to censor others' input on the grounds it is ' from intellectual twats' suggests behaviour typical of inverted intellectual snobs with chips on their shoulders.

Now I wrote that sentence spontaneously-not to confuse or sound pompous or posh-I refuse to apologise for having had a decent education, and I DON'T rubbish folk who have been less fortunate.

As to personal attacks-I receive them day and daily, and in more aggressive p.m.'s. If I were to complain to MR Tontastic every time those happen, and INSIST he looked into matters, he'd have less time to get stroppy with this irritating poster. mellow.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-25 07:53:19
QUOTE(tigerjock @ Jun 25 2007, 01:04 AM) [snapback]294493[/snapback]
Flighty Boy-you appear to display arrogance and inverted snobbery-I'm surprised at you.

WTF, you been looking in the mirror you old coont.

Hows the viagra working, is the apple of your eye getting a regular rogering.

mad.gif

jealous lad!
mortonjag 2007-06-25 07:54:31
QUOTE(alexp @ Jun 25 2007, 02:42 AM) [snapback]294498[/snapback]
why cant we all be friends! rolleyes.gif
just to add my honest opinion i think that some of these threads going off topic is really annoying and just when i want to see some quick news regarding signings, rumors, etc i have to look through idiotic conversations/arguments between viking and mortonjag. we all know mortonjag is always out of hand, but the fact that viking went from being an unknown on the board to now one of the most hated is one a fast turn of events. ive also noticed that out of all of these posts he's had about 90% have been complaining about something. of course the same can be said about plenty of others on here rolleyes.gif

RLY! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-25 08:10:47
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 24 2007, 10:23 PM) [snapback]294430[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Jun 24 2007, 12:09 PM) [snapback]293957[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->On the Jamie Stevenson thing, i actually know about the situation here but without giving too much away, its not all JMs fault, Jamie is a bit horizontal in the attitude department and i don't think JMs management allows for that, which is a shame, because he needs to know how to motivate himself POSITIVELY not NEGATIVELY as is the JM way !

Not the story I heard.

The reason Jamie was always subbed after an hour last season was apparently due to the fact he'd been carrying a knee injury most of the season which wouldn't be cured without complete rest.


No harm in spilling the beans now, as the season's over.

I believe the club never made this injury public incase any hatchet man targetted Jamie.

May all be s***e but it makes sense when you think about it.

That may well be what you heard, but in a medical sense it's just laughable Bob.
mortonjag 2007-06-25 08:13:39
QUOTE(tontastic @ Jun 25 2007, 08:08 AM) [snapback]294514[/snapback]
Mibbe its not us ... mibbe its someone else at the data center ...

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mortonjag 2007-06-25 08:14:28 [quote name='tontastic' date='Jun 25 2007, 08:08 AM' post='294514']
Mibbe its not us ... mibbe its someone else at the data center ...

Dear Customer,

This morning between 04:10 and 05:35 one of our clients suffered a large
DDoS attack which caused some customers partial loss of Internet
connectivity for periods during this time frame.
We took the needed steps as quickly as possible to isolate this server
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Oh dear-and Mortonjag gets accused of trying to baffle people with fancy words!


mortonjag 2007-06-25 13:39:55
QUOTE(tontastic @ Jun 25 2007, 09:28 AM) [snapback]294532[/snapback]
Is it etiquette to share with forum members, or indeed parties concerned who you have on ignore? Just wondering.

MR Tontastic, I'm confused-perhaps that's a rhetorical question.

I'm simply making the point that IF I were the 'owner' of the site-I'm not sure of the intricacies of ownership and moderation-and IF I also had a commercial interest in selling Morton related merchandise, I'd keep myself out of the personal arena altogether.

That's not a 'go' at you. It's simply a general observation, and is based on years of experience in delicate ethical matters.

To quote Biblically-'You should be in the world, but not OF the world, or put more simply, it's dangerous to mix business and pleasure.
mortonjag 2007-06-25 13:44:09
QUOTE(El gofer @ Jun 25 2007, 09:30 AM) [snapback]294533[/snapback]
You have made over 9000 posts. 11 of the last 12 on this thread are from you.

Come on pal, its summertime!

Go get out and enjoy the fresh air. Find a hobby because this site must be taking over your life. Quite embarassing that youfeel that need to spout vitriol and self gratifying opinionated babble to all and sundry.

Now were's that ignore function?............

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Hey Gopher-average of just over twelve posts a day's kids' stuff to a guy who used to work an eighty hour week.

I realise it's been a lot more recently-practice makes perfect!
mortonjag 2007-06-25 13:47:12
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 25 2007, 10:50 AM) [snapback]294552[/snapback]
CODE
Sometimes I don't speak too bright
   but yet I know what I'm talking about
  
   Why can't we be friends?

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Sometimes I speak 'awfully' bright
most times I haven't a clue what I'm talking about


Why can't we ALL be friends?

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mortonjag 2007-06-25 13:54:29 This thread's off topic. BTW did I say that too posh?

Oh and SIR Cliff's a pouffe-so bloody what?
mortonjag 2007-06-25 13:58:14
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 24 2007, 08:23 PM) [snapback]294340[/snapback]
I've completed three. Only two more and I've got a degree. On the whole it's a fine institution but they can be a bit difficult to deal with if you fall out with them (as I did a couple of times).
I've had to put the degree on hold due to work commitments but reckon I'll start again in February.
What are you thinking about doing?

DM in shock 'bites the hand that feeds him' revelation! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-25 14:05:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 25 2007, 08:46 AM) [snapback]294521[/snapback]
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 24 2007, 08:59 PM)

a further outbreak of litosis. shouldn't this intellectual stuff be in General Nonsense?
Gidday TrumpingTon,

does this make you happy now ???
11. Testicle (n.), a humorous question on an exam.

12. Rectitude (n.), the formal, dignified bearing adopted by proctologists.

13. Pokemon (n), a Rastafarian proctologist.

14. Oyster (n.), a person who sprinkles his conversation with Yiddishisms.

15. Frisbeetarianism (n.), (back by popular demand): The belief that, when you die, your Soul flies up onto the roof and gets stuck there.

16. Circumvent (n.), an opening in the front of boxer shorts worn by Jewish men.

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Five hours on Newt, and ne'er a comment.



Cappielow-feeble attempt at anonymity

Masturbates-somebody's wee boy

Preoccupation-'signing on'

Alimony-what she got on divorce

let slaggings commence! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-25 14:10:51
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 25 2007, 02:03 PM) [snapback]294619[/snapback]
I can see why you think that.

Also, if I somehow implied that it's solely Jim's mysterious ways that turned Chris' Morton career around, then that was extremely careless of me. I totally admire Templeman's recent conduct and his abilities on the pitch and of course credit him even more than the manager (as it's ultimately what happens on the pitch that counts.) However, I think Jim's contribution is still valid.

I agree that the paper talk post-loan move was a poor show, but I remember when Chris returned from the loan spell for the playoff games and Jim had his arm round Chris out on the pitch. Sure, it could have just been for show, but I'm not so sure.

I have no insider info, I don't know what goes on in peoples' heads. Chris could very well feel the same as you for all I know. I'm just calling it as I see it, and as such I could be very wrong indeed smile.gif

The Dong's making extremely outspoken comments if they're merely conjecture Nach0.
mortonjag 2007-06-25 14:14:41
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 25 2007, 02:06 PM) [snapback]294621[/snapback]
Good post, I think, and that's the impression I get as well.

I've thought for a while now that the Chairman in particular had designs on a young squad growing together and advancing as a unit, which is nice in theory but potentially disastrous if some of the players don't progress as expected.

Mother hen and her brood! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-25 14:18:41
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jun 25 2007, 09:15 AM) [snapback]294529[/snapback]
I had an amazing time with a Russian prostitute in the Czech Republic a few years ago.

Nice to see someone sticking to the thread. What amazed her WDE-yer kilt? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-25 14:33:08
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 24 2007, 11:22 PM) [snapback]294455[/snapback]
Where would a lightweight yet skillful guy like Bryson fit in the current team?

Don't we have enough of this type of player already?

We need steel and experience in the middle of the park now to compliment what we have already.

Steel, experience, and
PACHYDERMATOUSNESS



Nae mair wee boys in awe of authority IMHO.
mortonjag 2007-06-25 14:35:57
QUOTE(steveoath @ Jun 25 2007, 12:58 AM) [snapback]294490[/snapback]
You want to gie yersel' a break ffs. People passing on info. Your reaction suggests your passing on a kidney stone. I think the cry for attention is not the original post but yours. GROW THE FCUK UP.

Steve

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mortonjag 2007-06-25 14:43:15
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jun 25 2007, 02:35 PM) [snapback]294635[/snapback]
Duh! Its about Keiran Glass, I mean Stephen MacAnespie, erm..

Oh bollox.

The football intelligentsia are 'doing my head in' Trumpet. I can't understand all this high flung language about signings and attributes, and who's played for whom and when.

Clearly they are trying to befuddle simple posters like you and me with their big words and superior knowledge.

Oh and to make matters worse-every single time a player's mentioned, it's started on a separate thread.

BAN SOCCER SNOBS
mortonjag 2007-06-25 14:48:32
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jun 25 2007, 02:41 PM) [snapback]294637[/snapback]
Looks to me like we're headed for mid table obscurity at the moment. Im not too disheartened by that though, ill start to moan if we're not challenging the season after next. Just soo relieved to have finally got back to div 1, may even be able to enjoy the games a little more this year.

On a week to week basis, I totally agree. I've often said I'd rather see the boys play good entertaining football and be beaten by a genuinely better side, than the pain that was much of last season.
mortonjag 2007-06-25 14:50:16
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jun 25 2007, 02:31 PM) [snapback]294633[/snapback]
AHA! ohmy.gif

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mortonjag 2007-06-25 14:56:11
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jun 25 2007, 02:28 PM) [snapback]294632[/snapback]
"Destroyed" may be a bit of an emotive term, but I wouldn't disagree with any of that except to note that JM did persevere with Chris (perhaps not by choice admittedly) and it all came good. Chris didn't look like a decent player for quite some time after his arrival, and I don't think too many people were that gutted when we was sent to Brechin.

Surely JM must get some credit for CT's change in attitude.

What seems abundantly clear to me is that little is known by the majority of posters about 'the dressing room'.

Every now and again somebody pops in a wee bit of 'knowledge', but so far as this Board's concerned, the interactions among Shoogly, JM, and the boys, are largely speculation.

What is very strange to me is that, in two seasons, not one solitary player has come to Cappielow and fulfilled his reputation elsewhere.

It also seems strange that so few appear to be rushing to sign for a club who IMO should have SPL aspirations.
mortonjag 2007-06-25 15:00:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 25 2007, 08:41 AM) [snapback]294520[/snapback]
Gidday McInally`s Monkey,

what a clever wee chimp you are.

Would you like to bet a bag of peanuts that there are no signings in your master's absence ?

huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif

Easy on the simiophobia Newt-my wee pal's offal easy offended.
mortonjag 2007-06-25 15:02:24
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jun 25 2007, 02:59 PM) [snapback]294647[/snapback]
Can we, then, use the following patented "simpleton" system of assessing players?

If the player is good, then say "Good player"

If the player is not good, say "Bad player"

If the player is good at something and bad at other things, say "player".

e.g.

Andy Ritchie = Good Player
Stuart Rafferty = Bad Player
Barry Lavetty = Fat Junkie Scum Bawbag (there's an exception to every rule)

Agreed-and we must sign three or four good players soon! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-25 15:07:24
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jun 25 2007, 03:02 PM) [snapback]294652[/snapback]
"get a life" ho ho ho....a statement like this from a man with over 9,000 postings!!!!!!!!!!

...and responses like yours are always graciously returned.

Enjoy the rest of yours!

BTW I can see me rattling up the big
10000


before the Fair. I'll keep trying to give a personal response to every post mentioning MJ-it's only common courtesy. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-25 15:16:57
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 25 2007, 03:15 PM) [snapback]294661[/snapback]
why bother trying?

Should I put it in less flowery langage? dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-25 15:19:03
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 25 2007, 03:15 PM) [snapback]294662[/snapback]
and over 5,000 of them have been from his ocean going motor yacht.

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Newt-that could have been 10,000 if you didn't keep 'driving' under the influence! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-25 15:26:16
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 25 2007, 03:22 PM) [snapback]294669[/snapback]
oops - I thought you said

DIVING

but, that's WDE

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mortonjag 2007-06-25 15:56:53
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 25 2007, 03:29 PM) [snapback]294674[/snapback]
Ive not read all the thread and have no idea what MortonJag is referring to in your previous posts but he reckons that you are slightly outspoken with you views giving the fact they might not be exactly accurate. (I think) unsure.gif

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mortonjag 2007-06-25 16:00:19
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jun 25 2007, 03:52 PM) [snapback]294689[/snapback]
I'm sure it wasn't a conscious decision not to play well but, whatever the reason, glad his game improved. As for self-assessment, well........he did have a number of people helping him by offering constructive criticism.

Carrot or stick-or both in variable proportions-is JM all carrot, or just a big 'plank of wood'?
mortonjag 2007-06-25 16:01:47
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jun 25 2007, 04:00 PM) [snapback]294698[/snapback]
Edinson?

Mr Bahomey?
mortonjag 2007-06-25 16:04:37
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jun 24 2007, 10:57 PM) [snapback]294446[/snapback]
We offered Sutton fantastic money and we were his first choice in Scotland apparently, but he wanted to return to England. The club gets branded unrealistic if it goes for a better calibre of player and lacking ambition if it goes for a player from a lower league.

Fair point.

How much have we offered for that KEY man we're still awaiting?
mortonjag 2007-06-25 16:08:08 I begin to understand why so many posters don't like anything that smacks of intelligence when I see this fatal attraction to a thread about some nasty computer game.
mortonjag 2007-06-25 16:16:07
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 25 2007, 03:33 PM) [snapback]294678[/snapback]
Wireless wie Virgin? No probs. Buy a router, should be about £40, and a wireless card for any remote pc (about a tenner). Make sure you enable security. Bob's yer maw's bro.

I'm using a wee 'Netgear' router for the laptop and PC network, ( I got a USB plug in adapter for the latter for fifteen quid)-no problems.

Download speeds depend on the capability of the local BT exchange-ISP's only advertise the potential of their system.
mortonjag 2007-06-25 16:17:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 25 2007, 04:14 PM) [snapback]294708[/snapback]
mea maxima culpa

Keep taking the apples.
mortonjag 2007-06-25 16:19:31
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Jun 25 2007, 04:15 PM) [snapback]294709[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Jun 25 2007, 03:26 PM) [snapback]294672[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Not that I believe we won't sign anymore players but if that was the case it would be a disgrace after the management saying they were looking to bring in quality players with SPL and 1st division experience.

As always people will vote with their feet.

A few quality signings could put 300-400 onto the opening day attendance... compared to what we'll get with the current squad.

One quality signing would make that 1000 IMHO.
mortonjag 2007-06-25 16:24:46
QUOTE(GMC @ Jun 25 2007, 04:13 PM) [snapback]294707[/snapback]
A regular at Recreation Park the season before last, were you?

Bobby Linn hasn't been slated unreasonably. He's just not a natural goalscorer, like you seem to think, so people are arguing that you are wrong (again!).

Regarding Alex Walker, I agree with you (shock horror). I always rated Walker very highly, something's went wrong along the way, and I don't think it was anythign to do with ability that got him dropped in the first place. From the outside it looks like he's been treated unfairly. sad.gif

I think it goes without saying that JM has a lot to learn, even to those who rate him highly as a manager.

OK then-he IS a goalscorer-if not WTF was he signed?

I'll rephrase-He's an unnatural goalscorer kept out of the team by a natural goalscorer/striker
attacking midfielder on loan from Cellic? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-25 17:49:08
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 25 2007, 05:04 PM) [snapback]294742[/snapback]
I'd be inclined to agree. I remain unconvinced by McLaughlin...great workrate but poor on the ball anytime i've seen him. Don't change a winning team and all that but I just can't work out Walker's lack of games...
Again, I agree...he always look sooo desperate to score to prove himself. No bad thing I guess, but a bit of composure wouldn't go amiss.

As for McAnespie (remember him...?) its well known he's been training with us for a while to help his fitness, so McInally and Clark will have been able to see him up close and know what he's about. If he was at all a disruptive influence I doubt the training situation would have continued never mind signing him. We've been crying out for a left footed full-back/left-mid and some experience...now we have that. Hopefully now we can stop playing Jim McAlister out of position...(i'd play him at right-mid/wingback)

McAlister's been wasted for a full season-and he has got ability. As you suggest it's great to see a signing who genuinely fills a gap, and gives us new options,

Most posters seem to have difficulty in getting their heads round a 'squad'. I believe, for example, that although you shouldn't change 'the shape' of a winning team, individual players can be started or sit on the bench depending on the opposition-indeed, even on weather conditions or state of a pitch.

I'm hoping JM /Shoogly have grasped the stupidity of giving the same players a game week in, week out, irrespective of form.
mortonjag 2007-06-25 17:57:35
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 25 2007, 05:09 PM) [snapback]294745[/snapback]
There is still plenty of time for additional signings. In their promotion season St Mirren did not sign Sutton and Charlie Adam until the end of August. We did not finalise on McLaren and Lilley until well into July.

My own opinion is that we will sign another three as follows:

A forward (maybe McGowan either on a permanent deal or another loan)
A goalkeeper - thats obvious we must have either a back up to McGurn or a new first pick. I would be happy with either
A N Other whom I hope will be a decent midfield general. Ideally a biggish name soon to get the season ticket sales up.

Our squad is not that bad but lacks depth. We need to go from the present 17/18 to 21/22.

Agree with the' forward' exception.

IF we get another 'midder' ideally an experienced 'name', we'll be more spoiled than ever for choice there, and I'd much rather see Spoonsy back up front.

In this age of wing backs, Finlayson, or even McAlister could fill the No 2 spot ably, as could Davie McG-though he lacks pace. McLaughlin could easily play left wing back and would also be a good 'sweeper'.

Another proven central defender is higher on my list than a forward.
mortonjag 2007-06-25 18:00:25
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 25 2007, 05:50 PM) [snapback]294766[/snapback]
At least in football terms its been a long summer. I think that last year, once we got over the disappointment of the play offs, we had signed Stevenson and we looked forward with confidence to a league with no Gretna in it.

I think this time there's a sense of trepidation about the new season because even the most optimistic of us think that we need to strengthen. Our expectation of the quality of player we are looking for has been raised with the failed moves for Mensing and Sutton but its not apparently happening so far.

Apart from the playing staff, there's a sense in which people wonder what's going on at the club. Not much appears to be going right. There are small things like the season tickets not being printed in time. There are larger things like the new strips not being available. And then there's the lack of signings.

Jim McInally is on holiday now and that says to me that he thought our signings would all be tied up by now - and they are not.

Mr Rae, if you want the season tickets sales boosted, you need to sign a name and soon.

In terms of signings, if we sign McGowan, whilst most of us will be pleased, we won't be ecstatic because it will just be seen as taking us back to the team we had last year. We need some new names and not from the lower leagues!

In summary, hardly any of us see us as being capable of competing for the title and some even think we might struggle to stay up. All that could change if we get a couple of decent signings but we need them soon if we want to maintain morale amongst the paying public.

Will they spot my Alias?
mortonjag 2007-06-25 18:02:56
QUOTE(Benin Dahomey @ Jun 25 2007, 05:19 PM) [snapback]294748[/snapback]
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i like the grown up way you try to insult people by changing their name slighty so that it sounds like something else. for a self-proclaimed 'intellectual' that's pretty poor. laugh.gif

I'm only teasing you Dr Ben-and BTW I stole that name from (I think) Mr Edwards!!

Incidentally do you have any connection with Benin/Dahomey?
mortonjag 2007-06-25 18:07:36
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 25 2007, 04:17 PM) [snapback]294711[/snapback]
Are you just in a huff because nobody is paying attention to you and Newton making high-brow dick jokes?

NO! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-25 18:09:59
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 25 2007, 04:28 PM) [snapback]294721[/snapback]
Aegroto, dum anima est, spes esse dicitur

Strictly speaking that would depend on one's perception of 'anima' MidTONs. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-25 18:12:35
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 25 2007, 04:46 PM) [snapback]294734[/snapback]
Can see your point but:
a He was a c***.
b He was English.
In order to describe him then surley it is acc eptable to call him a english c*nt? unsure.gif
The use of the singular is what stops it from being discriminatory.
If I said : "There are English c*nts" that would indeed be discriminatory. mad.gif
There was, however, an English c*nt on the telly, in the same way that there are Scottish c*nts.
I'm sure every country in the world has at least one c*nt.

woman? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-25 18:14:07
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 25 2007, 05:54 PM) [snapback]294767[/snapback]
Although no-one replied to this post, you should all be glad to know Morton Club Pensioners resume their club on Thursday afternoon.

If we dont keep our elderly busy and amused they tend to get up to mischief and can get crotchety.. just look at Mortonjag wink.gif

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mortonjag 2007-06-25 18:23:00
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 25 2007, 06:07 PM) [snapback]294780[/snapback]
He probably cried to the new hierarchy by PM tongue.gif

Deego...

Unlike yourself post counts don't actually mean anything to me.

They can re-set it to zero as far as I'm concerned.

In fact what's the point of them anyway, unless some folk try and keep their own wee league table of the Ten Highest Posters ??

Don't tell me you actually do that Deego tongue.gif

Well they do to me Willow-they're a bloody nuisance-

'See that old turd Mortonjag-over 9000 posts-obviously a sad and decrepit old coont who's got too much time on his hands-oh well I'll have a go at the semi demented slevering old w*nkstain'.

.....Three or four clones jump on the band wagon-MJ responds graciously as ever-and his post count jumps by another five! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-25 18:27:11
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Jun 25 2007, 06:09 PM) [snapback]294782[/snapback]
For god sake give it a rest ya creep...

If you are calling MJ a 'creep' may he learn where you practised an art you've clearly mastered to perfection?
mortonjag 2007-06-25 18:55:12
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 25 2007, 06:20 PM) [snapback]294791[/snapback]
You know I jest wink.gif

Oh indeed LL, as do many of my detractors.

Perhaps only six or seven genuinely detest this 'poor old man'! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-25 18:58:07
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 25 2007, 06:55 PM) [snapback]294802[/snapback]
the summer didn't start well when the club gave new contracts to everyone but mathers. that gave me a feeling of foreboding that the underachievement will continue. and now it looks like mcanespie is our big summer signing.

next season is starting to look less like a season of consolidation and more like one of survival. i don't think ambition was ever on the agenda.

Bitty unfair I'd say. Looks more like realism's hit Shoogly in the pocket.
mortonjag 2007-06-25 19:00:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 25 2007, 06:58 PM) [snapback]294804[/snapback]
i hope you used good quality condoms.

No - the goods are in a PLAIN white wrapper.

who is my friend in the south?

agent # 43

share and enjoy with family and friends.

Manky, you must not be afraid.
ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

smile.gif smile.gif

Brilliantly returned to the thread topic before the arrival of the

BLEATERS
mortonjag 2007-06-25 19:19:18
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jun 25 2007, 07:04 PM) [snapback]294807[/snapback]
There's something to be said for keeping a winning team together.

The only sides that can truly get away with keeping the shape are those with genuine strength and depth, the likes of Man Utd. Even then it's bitten them on the erse quite a few times, and that's with one of the all time greats for a manager.

Chelsea and Liverpool have found to their costs in recent seasons that tinkering for the sake of it doesn't work. Mourinho has said himself that he's happier with a smaller squad. It's difficult to argue with him when you compare his success to Ranieri's.

Some of the best teams I can think of have gone through seasons only making changes when absolutely required, Aberdeen, Dundee Utd, Ipswich, Forest, Leeds immediately spring to mind.

Personally I would never drop in form players just to rest them for fear of killing the teams momentum. In terms of the first division I would rather have a first 11 that picks itself supported by quality back up players who are able to play 2/3 different positions and will slot in where required.

Obviously we're not there yet but with 3/4 solid signings we wouldn't be far away.

It's a matter of opinion. I was reading Benny Rooney in the 'Morton Greats' book and he commented that he always 'sussed' the oppositon before games, and would make changes (not wholesale obviously) if it seemed sensible.

I'll give an example from the recent past. In the away game at Kircaldy we played Sanny in his hitherto pretty successful 'target man' role, and big Marvin won every single header.

Since we don't have anybody else who gets up any higher, it might have made sense to field a smaller more nimble player.
mortonjag 2007-06-25 19:22:54
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 25 2007, 07:14 PM) [snapback]294818[/snapback]
Smelly c***? Would this offend smelly c***s and unhygienic women?

I'd suggest it might be doubly offensive to some smelly c*nt of a woman with vaginitis BH.
mortonjag 2007-06-25 19:26:13
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 25 2007, 07:17 PM) [snapback]294821[/snapback]
50 years ago you could've joined the merchant navy, but they only take on filipinos and malays these days.

newton, what are you babbling about? have you sent me drugs or what? if so, cheers.

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mortonjag 2007-06-26 06:14:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 25 2007, 07:53 PM) [snapback]294845[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

I only gave him what he wanted.

Is yours OK, mate ?

huh.gif

I'm AFRAID I'm not sure what you mean Newt! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-26 06:20:00
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 25 2007, 11:05 PM) [snapback]294918[/snapback]
Might I point out that this thread is WAAAAY off topic? unsure.gif
The thread Gestapo should have complained about it several hours ago.
What's keeping them? huh.gif

They're probably having their fleeces dipped or trimmed.

Come to think of it possibly both, but don't fret-leave them alone and they'll come home dragging their tails behind them.
mortonjag 2007-06-26 06:30:57
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 26 2007, 12:32 AM) [snapback]294969[/snapback]
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 26 2007, 12:19 AM) [snapback]294965[/snapback]

Did he talk about gay things or anything that would indicate he was bent ? Did he make any sort of sexual advance on you for instance ?

As we probably have nothing at all in common with each other that I know of, he may well think I'm a t***.

I thought when I posted this that I may have got a definate answer on this. There must be gay Morton supporters who frequent this forum. Surely they must have an insight to the "gay scene" and post an answer to my question ?
[/quot I thought we were all too negative to be gay ?
I don't think Cliff is gay . Someone would have outed him by now .
Is he not a member of the god squad ? Should have became a priest .. he would have got his nat king cole for sure .

Back in the early seventies when Sir Cliff (Harry Webb) was 'Cliff Richard' backed by the still fabulous Shadows they played a gig in Glasgow.

The father of a student friend of mine was a 'high heid yin' in the polis, and apparently there was an incident in Glasgow Central Station which led the police to conclude Cliff was gay.

This is hearsay of course. He's been remarkable in that he seems to have avoided adverse publicity, and adheres to Christian values in a world full of temptation.

Not my style of music, but an admirable guy IMO.
mortonjag 2007-06-26 06:40:00
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 26 2007, 12:53 AM) [snapback]294973[/snapback]
Saturday afternoons between 2 and 6 is the only time he is not attached to his keyboard .

You are becoming impertinent Sir-I won't bore you with a weekly diary-suffice to say that with Mosque of a Friday, Synagogue on Saturday, Mass on Sunday morning, and the evening prayer meeting at the Brethren Hall I'm kept perfectly busy.

Right now I'm kneeling on my mat as I enjoy a large bowl of Kosher Cornflakes and recite a novena.

It's not often you nick the collection plate from the Brethren and don't get caught. The rest are easy pickings.
mortonjag 2007-06-26 07:51:37
Alex Salmond has offered to put himself up for questioning in front of Holyrood's committee conveners.

The First Minister said he wanted to give the Holyrood committee system "due respect" as he indicated his willingness to regularly answer detailed questions in public, though procedural changes will be needed if this new openness is to take place. It was an echo of a pledge of openness made by Tony Blair in 2002 to make himself available to select committees at Westminster.

The SNP leader made the offer to put himself forward for regular public questioning in an interview with Holyrood Magazine, saying: "I am going to offer the conveners of all committees - in the interests of accountability and in recognition of the importance of the committees - myself to them for regular questioning. I think this would be a good innovation and would give the conveners an opportunity that FMQs doesn't, to pursue points with me in some detail, very like a select committee. I wish to make that offer now and I hope they accept."

Mr Salmond added: "This would give an extra opportunity to question me on a regular basis which would of course be in public.
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"Committees, by definition, get into more detail and more aspects than other people and therefore, the conveners would be in a good position to get my view.

"It would be up to them to ask what they like of me but there's an offer on the table to the conveners' committee to increase parliamentary acc-ountability and transparency."

None of the three previous First Ministers appeared before any Holyrood committee, but part of the problem with Mr Salmond's observation that this "would of course be in public," is that the body he proposes to make himself available in front of is not a formal committee of the parliament and therefore does not meet in public.

The "Convener's Group" does comprise the conveners of all the other Holyrood committees, but it was a concept which former Presiding Officer George Reid came up with.

Although it met under his convenership, and subsequently under his successor as deputy Presiding Officer, Trish Gordon, it was never constituted as a full committee at Holyrood.

As a result it never adopted standing orders and did not meet in public.

It did leave a legacy paper for the new parliament, calling for less legislation from the new administration, so that more time was left for committees to initiate their own scrutiny of executive performance.

But for that group to become a full committee of the parliament, as Mr Salmond appears to wish, it will be up to the Procedures Committee to instigate that.

Mr Salmond said: "It is not for me as First Minister to make pronouncements about how business is conducted in this parliament, but as a piece of gentle advice I would say there are many able people here who should be given longer time to speak.

"I am not claiming there should be unlimited speeches because I have sat through far too many people droning on at Westminster for 40 minutes but equally, six minutes is too short. We must also have the courage to encourage more interventions in debates."

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mortonjag 2007-06-26 07:56:09
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 26 2007, 12:12 AM) [snapback]294962[/snapback]
We all presumed it was the monkey . As we know his latin isin't as good tongue.gif

The Monkey's Latin's gibberish Chrissiboi-he relates well to many posters-not just to my goodself! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-26 08:00:24 We just have to be patient-there's no point in prejudicing the issue-it's pretty obvious we don't get much info from behind the scenes-that's Shoogly's way of doing it, but if he turns up trumps, all will be forgiven.
mortonjag 2007-06-26 08:45:12
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 26 2007, 07:55 AM) [snapback]294994[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2007-06-26 08:48:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 26 2007, 07:58 AM) [snapback]294996[/snapback]
You have nothing to fear but fear itself.
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Future engagements against Rangers?
mortonjag 2007-06-26 08:49:09
QUOTE(Montymellor @ Jun 6 2007, 02:34 PM) [snapback]285192[/snapback]
Can anyone recommend the "best" free anti-virus protection?

Thanks in advance!

MMR-don't believe the scaremongers.
mortonjag 2007-06-26 08:53:19
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jun 26 2007, 08:37 AM) [snapback]295003[/snapback]
I think the word t*** is indeed correct for some people on this board

When will you come off your cloud Flighty?

'Ignorance is bliss' means not knowing about something (using the huff button) makes you a happy bunny.

Newt wasn't saying you are 'higgorant', not that he had to in this instance. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-26 08:54:31
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jun 26 2007, 08:43 AM) [snapback]295006[/snapback]
see dundee are interested in him. should we make a move?
think he was a Scotland u21 keeper a few years ago

Deja vu.
mortonjag 2007-06-26 09:05:58
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jun 26 2007, 08:58 AM) [snapback]295017[/snapback]
in what way are you experiencing de- ja -vu

Just see it coming Blue-you make a comment like that (which in itself is ok) and everybody else starts scrapping about whether or not he's 'mince' or the best thing since 'sliced bread'-and of course at the end he signs elsewhere.
mortonjag 2007-06-26 09:09:18
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 26 2007, 09:05 AM) [snapback]295019[/snapback]
never been to a Concert to see Lisa but she was great that night in Berlin. She does go on abit mind you and she always has a small CND badge on which does my nut right in. mad.gif

I'm sure you've ripped of larger things in your passion Gibby-presumably she doesn't PIN it on! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-26 09:19:37
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jun 26 2007, 09:13 AM) [snapback]295024[/snapback]
How could you expect the poor wee wummin to come back after you let all of the air out of her?

...and plasticly smothered her.
mortonjag 2007-06-26 09:29:33
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 26 2007, 09:21 AM) [snapback]295027[/snapback]
puns are only funny to the person making them. i think they should be banned.

MINCE- in fact a

PUN O' MINCE
mortonjag 2007-06-26 15:35:52
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 26 2007, 01:22 PM) [snapback]295149[/snapback]
I see what ye did there Manky. Ban puns (they ARE f***ing annoying) which would ruin The Moderator's fun - him and the Jag are always at it.

jealous?
mortonjag 2007-06-26 15:38:02
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 26 2007, 12:18 PM) [snapback]295100[/snapback]
You can blame Tory Tommy on that front.

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mortonjag 2007-06-26 15:40:15
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 26 2007, 03:07 PM) [snapback]295202[/snapback]
To keep it concise, they're small minded idiots.

Could wee please cancel the conciseness then BH? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-26 15:43:06
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 26 2007, 03:37 PM) [snapback]295228[/snapback]
My ancestors on one side were Irish immigrants and I feel absolutely no affinity with Ireland or Irish people (the burds are usually pretty accommodating mind you). The other half of the old family tree is French though and I HATE the French, so I suppose that makes my point invalid.

But if the singers are all Irish day-trippers then ok, all's well.

Just shows what happens when you cross a Paddy with a frog.
mortonjag 2007-06-26 16:28:33
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 26 2007, 04:00 PM) [snapback]295238[/snapback]
laugh.gif Well cheers for giving me a laugh at work

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mortonjag 2007-06-27 05:55:11 This whole thread's just conjecture.

What it does demonstrate in abundance is the gulf between the fans and Board in terms of communication. That's bad IMO and should be addressed, or criticism will continue and frustration increase.

If indeed, all is in order, and provisional signings are already 'sorted' it would be nice to know.
mortonjag 2007-06-27 06:05:11
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 26 2007, 07:08 PM) [snapback]295368[/snapback]
Perhaps JM is content with what he signs even though DDFR has issued statements about money being available for new signings .
I can only think of 1 manager other than JM who refused more money to strengthen and that was Le Guen at Rangers .
Only a fool would be content on going into a higher division with the majority never having played there .
I still believe we should have jettisoned more of the fringe players Finlayson , Keenan , Walker in order to have more money available to acquire more new platers that would offer more of a challenge for places amongst those already there.

Shoogly himself says those boys 'deserve to lead us into Division 1 - again the question is posed-Who is responsible for the playing staff at Scapa?
mortonjag 2007-06-27 06:08:44
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 26 2007, 12:30 PM) [snapback]295112[/snapback]
Oh right?

I was commenting on what was through the press and officially coming from Morton, and from what I remember from the time. None of it was conjecture.

Jim McInally has shown on more than one occasion that man management isn't his strong point, especially with unhappy players - the Lilley debacle/denials on how he left the club are evidence of this.

....and if you had read between the lines Dong-I was totally agreeing with you and trying to warn you against saying this sort of thing-or could it be that it's ok coming from you, but not from me? dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-27 06:13:17
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 26 2007, 08:29 PM) [snapback]295402[/snapback]
Well, I can't argue with a doctor. The story must've been s***e then. One thing, though, Barry Ferguson and Marvin Andrews played for weeks/months with knee injuries. Andrews is still playing now. Explain that one!

On McAnespie, here's a decent quote from an Alloa fan on P&B.

"I wasnt too fussed when we signed McAnespie last summer having regarded him as an injury prone inconsistent sandancer who didnt deliver on his early potential and who was on a clear downward spiral. To his credit though (and Allan Maitlands) he worked really hard to get fit and had an excellent season, becoming the main creative force in our team and causing problems for pretty much every team we played. I believe he said himself he was really working hard focussing on his football and enjoying it. If Jim McInally can keep him focussed Ive no doubt he will do very well in Division 1 and will make the posters who have written him off on this thread eat their words. Playing him at left back would be a big mistake though because he is not a defender. He will need to be in midfield where he can put his creative talents to use.
He will be a big loss to Alloa but at least a five figure fee for a player we signed on a free last summer represents an excellent bit of business. "

Take note, McInally. Play him left midfield and either drop McAlister or play him on his natural side.

I've a feeling he'll be left back, though, with McGregor moving to right back and Peter further upfield.

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I'm only laughing at your initial comment.

When I said it 'Didn't make sense' I meant that playing him for about 70 minutes in every game before subbing him as a form of 'treatment' is plainly ludicrous.

I agree with the rest.
mortonjag 2007-06-27 06:16:11
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 26 2007, 09:35 PM) [snapback]295422[/snapback]
I think McInally will be intending to play McAnespie in midfield as that's where he played almost all of last season and where he must have impressed Jim.

He's clearly competition for McLaughlin-possibly a replacement-does Scott now become a Finlayson type of player?-I can only now see him as left back, sweeper, or warming the bench, and am sure he'd do all three very well.
mortonjag 2007-06-27 06:26:03
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 26 2007, 11:42 PM) [snapback]295477[/snapback]
I believe DDFR is under a new Doctor and he has prescribed complete rest from all senile ramblings .


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I find it unsurprising that a clot like RH has the arrogance to make pronouncements about a post he hasn't even read-my friend from 'Down Under' may not be everybody's 'cup of tea'-his ramblings may sometimes be as obscure as mine, but he's made a valid point.

Why does the real arrogance emanate from Fort Matilda and the Shooglyphiles?
mortonjag 2007-06-27 06:29:08
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jun 27 2007, 12:53 AM) [snapback]295500[/snapback]
ahhh the feeling of deja vu is completely underwhelming dry.gif

Could you explain-deja vu regarding the situation or the post?
mortonjag 2007-06-27 06:32:19
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 26 2007, 10:35 PM) [snapback]295438[/snapback]
I'm 58. Nobody pulls my cord anymore either in or out of the stand!!

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mortonjag 2007-06-27 06:34:59 People will inevitably make mistakes.

I've just had the horrible thought that next seasons Second Division 'books' will be printed by the same shower!

Just a thought. sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-27 06:39:44
QUOTE(Lily @ Jun 26 2007, 05:53 PM) [snapback]295301[/snapback]
Cliff has said he is not gay. He is supposed to be a Christian and as the Bible is against immoral things and also against sex outside of marriage so I certainly don't think Cliff would be doing anything immoral if he is a real Christian. Now if he is a fake Christian and is doing immoral stuff then he is a hypocrite. Someone said soft boys don't like football. Cliff played rugby when he went to school. That is the Uk version of football. I don't know whether or not you like football what that has to do with your sexuality.

I've yet to meet anyone who lived up to Jesus' standards!
mortonjag 2007-06-27 06:41:45
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 26 2007, 08:56 PM) [snapback]295415[/snapback]
Good idea MJ, at your age it's best to cover all bases. wink.gif

TY-and I have a good pal in the Bureau de Change! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-27 06:43:08
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 27 2007, 12:16 AM) [snapback]295495[/snapback]
I agree.

Anyone making puns on here from now on should be punted.

That's anything but punny!
mortonjag 2007-06-27 06:45:36 I take considerable exception to scurrilous comments posted about a fellow Dr.



AYE RIGHT
mortonjag 2007-06-27 06:57:27
QUOTE(Mr H Palms @ Jun 26 2007, 11:38 PM) [snapback]295470[/snapback]
blink.gif What age are you???

Why do you ask-well I suppose garden shears might have something to do with it! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-27 07:07:17 The cost of free personal care for Scotland's elderly people has risen by 60% since it was introduced, bringing a renewed warning yesterday that it risks running out of control.

As the numbers who benefit from the scheme passed the 50,000 mark, newly published figures show that the cost rose from £149m to £237m between 2002-03 and 2005-06.

The sharply rising bill will add to the growing resentment in England that Scottish public services are funded from the same Treasury source as the rest of the UK but are more generous than in England.

Free personal care, added to free nursing care, was introduced by the Scottish Executive in July 2002. This was in the face of fierce criticism from Westminster, with warnings that it would become unaffordable as the elderly population grows.

This month, SNP Health Secretary Nicola Sturgeon pledged to "raise the bar", linking payments to inflation from next year and commissioning an independent review to ensure it is "implemented properly and fairly".

A breakdown of the Scottish free personal care figures reveals the greatest increase in cost was for the provision of free care to those who remain in their homes, the figure soaring by 76% from £93m in 2002-03 to £168m by 2005-06.

This is explained by more people aged above 65 applying for the £145 weekly grants to help with personal care, in addition to the £65 fee to support nursing care. It is also due to population change in which older people live longer, and reflects one of the intended outcomes of the policy, in that it helps older people stay in their own homes longer.

The cost of spending on care homes for older people go back to 1999, and show that the total spending on care homes has more than doubled to £478m, while the rise in total spending in supporting elderly people in their own homes rose from £103m to £284m.

The numbers receiving free personal care at home has risen from 27,340 in 2002-03 to 41,240 by last year. Among elderly people given support by social services, the proportion receiving the new payments has gone up from 49% when it was introduced to 72% last year. The number of hours of personal care support rose during the period from 187,200 to 262,200.

The sharpest increases in care home residents and those receiving the payments were in Fife, Edinburgh and Moray.

In England, there has been growing pressure to increase nursing care payments and iron out differences between council areas. Yesterday, English health minister Ivan Lewis sought to dampen political anger. He introduced a uniform fee of £101 for nursing care, admitting the differences had become "a running sore in our healthcare system".

Lord Lipsey, a former Downing Street adviser who argued strongly against adopting Scotland's free personal care policy before it was introduced six years ago, said yesterday that he had been proved right. He went on to say costs will soar five-fold by the middle of the century. (from today's Herald)



This wouldn't be the same Nickerless Surgeon who's about to deliver an all new SNHS which will meet demand. More gobbledegook from 'Alice in Wonderland'.

Politicians-

SCUM
mortonjag 2007-06-27 07:13:25
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 27 2007, 07:02 AM) [snapback]295523[/snapback]
Well, mate, I wissnae too arrogant on Tuesday, was I ?

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I actually enjoyed it very much Newt! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-27 07:43:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 27 2007, 07:23 AM) [snapback]295526[/snapback]
Perhaps you were singular in your enjoyment ?

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Whit's that song - "The Boys Are Back in Town"

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The Boys Are Back in Town Lyrics


Guess who just got back today?
Them wild-eyed boys that had been away
Haven't changed, haven't much to say
But man, I still think them cats are crazy

They were asking if you were around
How you was, where you could be found
Told them you were living downtown
Driving all the old men crazy

The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
I said
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town

You know that chick that used to dance a lot
Every night she'd be on the floor shaking what she'd got
Man when I tell you she was cool, she was red hot
I mean she was steaming

And that time over at Johnny's place
Well this chick got up and she slapped Johnny's face
Man we just fell about the place
If that chick don't want to know, forget her

The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
I said
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town

Spread the word around
Guess who's back in town

You spread the word around

Friday night they'll be dressed to kill
Down at Dino's bar and grill
The drink will flow and blood will spill
And if the boys want to fight, you'd better let them

That jukebox in the corner blasting out my favorite song
The nights are getting warmer, it won't be long
Won't be long till summer comes
Now that the boys are here again

The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
Spread the word around
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boy's are back, the boys are back

The boy's are back in town again
Been hangin' down at Dino's
The boy's are back in town again

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mortonjag 2007-06-27 08:50:08
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 27 2007, 08:14 AM) [snapback]295533[/snapback]
Emm....there are Celtic fans in the Republic too - not just the six counties.

What divide are you talking about in terms of the Republic?

The Cliff Richard divide presumably.
mortonjag 2007-06-27 08:53:52
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jun 27 2007, 07:59 AM) [snapback]295530[/snapback]
Have a wild guess rolleyes.gif

Well in honesty, especially since you're a serious guy-it could easily be either!
mortonjag 2007-06-27 08:56:41
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 27 2007, 08:31 AM) [snapback]295539[/snapback]
Why didn't you just say that?

Because what you said made perfect sense to me, but if I'd openly seconded it, we'd both have been rubbished.

Very few posters read MJ stuff-it's just an invitation to a free coconut shy and nobody's ever won a prize! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-27 08:59:18
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 27 2007, 08:46 AM) [snapback]295543[/snapback]
Having played in that match, I remember you refereeing it. In a Superman costume I believe. Colin Hardie never aspired to those dizzy heights. He will be missed (although frankly it would be hard to miss such a big, fat target).

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mortonjag 2007-06-27 09:03:34
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 27 2007, 08:49 AM) [snapback]295544[/snapback]
Ach, you're just annoyed because she wouldn't sh4g you.

Not really-I used to have a soft spot for wee Nickerless-honest-I naievely believed she was a rarity in Politics-a genuine person.

Time has proven that nobody's immune from the political pig swill syndrome.
mortonjag 2007-06-27 09:06:05
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 27 2007, 09:03 AM) [snapback]295552[/snapback]
What I'm saying is most Celtic fans are Labour supporters, making then unionists. And so far the evidence supplied in this thread seems to back that hypothesis up.

Just remember folks, if we draw Celtic in the Cup this season. The Provost and most of the Labour Councillors will be hoping Morton get beat ! That's right, the Civic Leaders of Inverclyde will be hoping the local team gets beat....sad day mad.gif

For once CLAYMORE c*** and MJ agree! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-27 09:07:40
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 27 2007, 09:05 AM) [snapback]295554[/snapback]
It looks like, after further investigation. Cliff has been living with the same man for a number of years blink.gif

Aye-he's always been a loner.
mortonjag 2007-06-27 09:12:05
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jun 27 2007, 09:07 AM) [snapback]295557[/snapback]
This whole BOARD's just conjecture!

Perhaps, in this instance, it would be a mistake to publicise what's going on with possible signings. Look at the criticism dished out for narrowly missing out on players. I'd rather have some positive news than more "nearly almost signed a great player" stories.

Might also affect the negotiation?

True-I didn't mean it should be so specific-just having a regular 'liaison' with the fans on GMFC.net would do Shoogly and the Board no end of good IMO.

I've touched on this issue elsewhere-I don't think it's professional to get embroiled in slanging matches with your 'public', irrespective of the media used.
mortonjag 2007-06-27 09:17:39
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 27 2007, 09:09 AM) [snapback]295558[/snapback]
Emmm...naw.

Infact so far the only Celtic supporter who has posted in this thread has contradicted you, so...
You're a screwball, mixing politics and football to this extent. Would you be happier if we had a BNP Council full of Morton supporters? laugh.gif

It's extremely debatable Mick-the local football club's always been at the core of a town's culture. It's an identity-when somebody says 'I'm first and foremost a Greenockian but support GLASGOW Celtic, eyebrows inevitably go up-or am I mistaken?
mortonjag 2007-06-27 09:21:25
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 27 2007, 09:18 AM) [snapback]295561[/snapback]
You're right.

If everyone would just stop smiling the world would be a better place.

...and those f*ckin' tooth mechanics would be skint! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-27 09:39:44
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 27 2007, 12:16 AM) [snapback]295496[/snapback]
Willowman will now be known as the Unofficial Forum pervert

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Perv of the Unofficial Forum



PUF
mortonjag 2007-06-27 09:45:46
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 27 2007, 09:31 AM) [snapback]295571[/snapback]
to the right o' politics continues. ohmy.gif

Having cuddled up wie super-rich homophobic bigots like Soutar could they get any worse?

Clicky

Do Ms. Pissflop and Nickerless Surgeon talk to each other- it seems to me that contrary to 'a sound economic policy', this nappy clad SNP toddler thinks it can prattle away mindlessly without questions being asked.
mortonjag 2007-06-27 09:48:58
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 27 2007, 09:26 AM) [snapback]295568[/snapback]
PhD in history, not a quack.

I'm very well aware Mr Trollbuster, and from STIRLING University too-none of yer Pishley rubbish for Dr Reid!

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mortonjag 2007-06-27 09:51:14
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 27 2007, 09:26 AM) [snapback]295566[/snapback]
In Greenock? Where as many, probably more, people support Celtic rather than Morton?

Not many eyebrows.

I wasn't meaning in Greenock, Clydebank, Coatbridge, or even Croy for that matter Mick. I was making a point about the perception of NORMAL people! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-27 09:53:51
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 27 2007, 09:31 AM) [snapback]295570[/snapback]
I have no interest in Celtic, so I won't be frequenting their forum.

I have for years upon years heard it all before from Old Firm supporters.

What's the ratio of Celtic supporting Labour cooncillors to Labour Huncooncs in the West of Scotland Col?
mortonjag 2007-06-27 09:59:11
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 27 2007, 09:41 AM) [snapback]295573[/snapback]
I'm not telling you to frequent it, I'm telling you to take your out-dated tin-pot theory there and have them correct you.

Mick - non Glaswegian Cellic supporters appear to prefer the team of their 'Religion', just like their Hun counterparts.

Nothing 'tinpot' about what Col states-just a sad fact of the life of a bigot an OF fan.
mortonjag 2007-06-27 10:03:53
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 27 2007, 09:43 AM) [snapback]295574[/snapback]
Thanks Willow.
I only meant the comment as a joke. I thought that by putting the smileys people would have recognised that. I apologise profusely to anyone who I have offended. You know me as well as anyone mate, and you know that I would never say anything like that unless it was a joke. Once again sorry folks. Perhaps the comment should be deleted mods?

OH FFS Weegie-it would have disappeared long ago if it had really been KNOTTY! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-27 10:05:10
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 27 2007, 09:54 AM) [snapback]295582[/snapback]
Ever the cynic rolleyes.gif tongue.gif

SOMETIMES the realist! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-27 10:07:47
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 27 2007, 10:04 AM) [snapback]295587[/snapback]
2 posts to go, but no doubt by the time i've finished typing this he'll be the top poster on this board.

9139 posts of utter tedium and s***e puns. well done

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Now check the count LCM-but Puggsy got a two month start.

The Viking will pass by Christmas I imagine.
mortonjag 2007-06-27 10:09:24
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 27 2007, 10:06 AM) [snapback]295589[/snapback]
i forgot rampant egotism.

Stop trying to baffle simple folk with your snobby language-people will confuse you with other posters!
mortonjag 2007-06-27 10:14:17
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 27 2007, 10:10 AM) [snapback]295594[/snapback]
It doesn't really matter how often you imbeciles cluck together in agreement, the fact remains that we no longer live in the f*cking 80s!

If this is your round-about and pathetic way of declaring that the Inverclyde Council got the Chapel vote, then youse are being a bit too obvious about it.

I've absolutely no political or religious allegiance Mick-HOPEFULLY by now you believe that.

I've never even heard the term 'Chapel vote'.

I have observed over the years a preponderance of Roman Catholic Labour Councillors in Glasgow and the West of Scotland. They are apparently voted in democratically. That is ALL.
mortonjag 2007-06-27 10:19:42
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Jun 27 2007, 10:13 AM) [snapback]295596[/snapback]
The problem with sedition is that it breeds contempt. That then leads to increased apathy. Just look at the recent posts and the 'oh woe is me, we doomed we are'. Jaysus! Has no-one an ounce of positivity left for next season!

And yes for those that care - I'm happy! I'll be happier if we (when) we pick up more experieced and better quality players. Once the strip is released and ticket sales start to rise. But to all you greetin-faced doom and gloom merchants - please go drown your sorrows and try putting a smile on!

rolleyes.gif Scotinbelgie

Edited for: Bloody azerty keyboard

laugh.gif

Vive la resistance Robert-sometimes sedition's POSITIVE-just depends on your 'take'!
mortonjag 2007-06-27 10:23:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 27 2007, 10:19 AM) [snapback]295599[/snapback]
The Chairman's Archive

sad.gif

Fantastic news Newt.

When was Shoogly replaced?
mortonjag 2007-06-27 11:17:55
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 27 2007, 10:50 AM) [snapback]295611[/snapback]
i haven't got a clue who that is either. he must be one of the guys with 4000 posts on the wwe thread.

Click on members-type GMC, and then search-look at profile-choose options- choose display history-or to simplify

One Andy McLaren -became One_insert_player_here- became GMC

and that's another useless post gentlemen!
mortonjag 2007-06-27 11:20:21
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 27 2007, 10:53 AM) [snapback]295612[/snapback]
You have absolutely no political or Religious allegiances......but you've taken the time to look into the Religion of the bulk of your democratically elected officials!?!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! laugh.gif

That comment's overtly stupid, and I notice you have not contradicted my assertion.
mortonjag 2007-06-27 11:22:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 27 2007, 10:59 AM) [snapback]295614[/snapback]
Aussie Vintners, in the Barossa valley, which primarily produces Pinot Blanc, Pinot Noir and Pinot Grigio wines, have developed a new hybrid grape that acts as an anti-diuretic.
It is expected to reduce the number of trips older people have to make to the bathroom during the night.
The new wine will be marketed as...
PINO MORE

Pronounced

PEE NO MAWR EH
mortonjag 2007-06-27 11:25:11
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 27 2007, 10:33 AM) [snapback]295606[/snapback]
*violins play softly*

fiddlesticks! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-27 11:27:37
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Jun 27 2007, 10:30 AM) [snapback]295604[/snapback]
I agree MJ, but if you do look at the majority of posts lately it's like everyone's taken an handful of downers. For example...Now fair enough part of this is down to CSB (Close Season Blues) disoder, but reading this board does make you think about sleeping tablets and vodka!

So as part of the resitance I say - be thankful you're not a skunk!

tongue.gif ScotinBelgie

Skunk Ins: None

Skunk Outs: Kirk Broadfoot, defender (Rangers, undisclosed); John Sutton, forward; Kevin McGowne, defender (Montrose); Tony Bullock, goalkeeper (Ross County); Craig Hinchcliffe, goalkeeper (Partick Thistle); John Baird, forward (Montrose); Scott Gemmill, forward (Berwick Rangers); David McKenna, forward; Paul Lawson, midfielder (Celtic, loan ends)

Aye but that's RATIONALISATION-not DESPERATION!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-27 11:31:47
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 27 2007, 11:24 AM) [snapback]295619[/snapback]
You claim you don't care about Religion, yet you can probably count the number of Roman Catholics in the council wink.gif

Indeed I'm very good at counting-something which dates back to a time when schools were run by Headmasters, and not Directorates of Education many of whom are 'in the pockets' of local Cooncillors.

And I DO know what I'm talking about on this one sonny boy, so don't bother arguing or giving me your spin. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-27 11:39:21
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 27 2007, 11:35 AM) [snapback]295627[/snapback]
Watch your blood pressure auld timer, I wasn't trying to dictate to you.

I was just pointing out that you're a stinking hypocrite.

You mean you're ATTEMPTING to SUGGEST that, and making a total arse of yourself in the process.

If, however, you can prove what you've just BALDLY stated, I might not report you to MR edinton for attempting to stir a pot I've avoided RELIGIOUSLY for weeks.
mortonjag 2007-06-27 11:45:23
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 27 2007, 11:30 AM) [snapback]295623[/snapback]
Sorry Iain, I know I'm semi-illiterate but your reply puzzles me to say the least. Are you suggesting that if I was to speak to the Raes that either one of them would be able to confirm to me that Morton has not lost its appeal for you and Mortonjag?

A very strange reply in my opinion but perhaps you are lacking some sleep. Admittedly, it must be hard trying to sleep when you have so many important things to worry about, like why the Chairman's Archive has been removed from the Official web site.

May I suggest you find another "clot" to vent your frustration on as this one has lost interest on two rude men whose apparent jealousy of our Chairman is now becoming quite sickening to read.

PS:- can or may
There is still some controversy over the use of these words. Both can and may express the idea of giving or requesting permission: Can I come in? May I come in? This use of can is comparatively recent (it is first recorded in the 1870s), but over the past hundred years or so it has decidedly overtaken may, and now it is a perfectly normal part of standard English.

keep up rolleyes.gif

Real Hoops-the semi literate (or illiterate) on his own confession, attempts to rubbish Newton without a clue what he's talking about.

Just go and f*cking ask them. That's what the man said.
mortonjag 2007-06-27 12:53:59
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 27 2007, 11:53 AM) [snapback]295636[/snapback]
All I'm saying is, you claim that someone's Religion is not something that bothers you, yet you speak as if it's pure fact that Labour Councillors in the West of Scotland are always Roman Catholics. This would imply that you take at least a bit of interest in the creed of your Councillor. You do care what Religion someone is.

Maybe you just LOOK like a hypocrite - is it a cosmetic problem?

Also, if you don't want to stir up anything in the way of Religious arguments then don't mention Religion. You know your contraversial opinions have started trouble in the past ohmy.gif

All you're saying Mick Boy is that you're not able to differentiate between risque banter and fact.

I've stated my position-you can and will interpret that as you wish-as will others.

Bear in mind you are the self confessed Celtic supporter, and so far you've been tolerated on a Morton forum.
mortonjag 2007-06-27 16:31:27
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jun 26 2007, 06:16 PM) [snapback]295325[/snapback]
Blacks make tents up in Port glasgow,

Hence suggesting that the Girls who work at Cappielow would need a tent in the style of a morton strip to wear as the normal ones would not fit.

It was not funny.
And Deego,

Get to 5's...im stuck in work


Is that it?-I thought there might be some evil insinuation about only being functional with a big hard pole up the middle. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-27 16:34:48
QUOTE(Toby @ Jun 27 2007, 03:00 PM) [snapback]295731[/snapback]
Nobody, but this guy suggested to me that McAnespie had ideas above his station. Fair enough, he's now got a bigger move, but he really got to a few guys in the Alloa dressing room because of his attitude. if he was to do this at Cappielow it could affect the rest of the squad.

That's the whole idea-they need some f*cking arrogance! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-27 17:23:06
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 27 2007, 04:54 PM) [snapback]295794[/snapback]
I never say never but the thing that throws me off the trail here is Morton very rarely entertain or do any business at Cappielow.

Indeed they were as boring as f*ck last season MidTONs-but somebody like big Rab would cerainly boost the defence's confidence.
mortonjag 2007-06-27 17:42:57
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 27 2007, 01:21 PM) [snapback]295666[/snapback]
Evidently the same applies to you; it appears to me that you've been crying about this all morning, whereas it's a joke to me.

Really?

Celtic fan on a Morton forum

Local councillor's son.

Caused problems previously with allegations of an 'anti-catholic hegemony' on this board, while claiming his raison d'etre is to 'wind them up'.

Seems we've come full circle Mick, and I'll repeat a question I asked you weeks ago. What's the point of all this on a MORTON board?

The proddy- catholic thing affects the whole of the West of Scotland. If you really get your rocks off winding up imaginary 'pape bashers', do your Old Man a favour and f*ck off to the Midden's board. I'm SURE you'll feel very much at home among the Skunks.

mortonjag 2007-06-27 17:49:16
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 27 2007, 03:50 PM) [snapback]295769[/snapback]
Socially dysfunctional, amoral robot with a penchant for massaging figures. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss cool.gif

Just happened to chance on this post-we have a NEW boss? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-27 17:52:01
QUOTE(Lily @ Jun 27 2007, 03:56 PM) [snapback]295775[/snapback]
Just because someone lives with a man or a woman lives with a woman does not necessarily mean they are having intimate relations with them. They could be just good friends. Knowing Cliff's firm Christian and moral beliefs I don't think he would do anything immoral like that.

How well do you know him 'Lily'?-PERSONALLY? dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-27 17:54:23
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 27 2007, 05:24 PM) [snapback]295803[/snapback]
another pathetic pun painfully paralyses present participants

You're

ALLITERATE
mortonjag 2007-06-27 17:59:16
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 27 2007, 05:25 PM) [snapback]295805[/snapback]
In fact after thinking further about this I would bet my life on it that he was not at Cappielow last night unless it was to break in. laugh.gif

to steal the new tents strips?
mortonjag 2007-06-27 18:01:27
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jun 27 2007, 03:40 PM) [snapback]295760[/snapback]
Oh dear, we didn't get a wee boy from Motherwell, one thinks of Ryan Russell and doesn't feel overly-aggrieved!

Good for one.
mortonjag 2007-06-27 18:30:09
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 27 2007, 06:10 PM) [snapback]295827[/snapback]
Looks like cash is worth more than Inverclyde future babies.

Reading the info given they mask over the figures, by missing out the part that most are already being sent to Paisley.

Looks like we have been sold out!!

POOR POOR SHOW

Looks like all my future gran waines will be born in pishley!!

Just hope no pregnant women have any complications and need emergency help, its at least a 20-30min drive away to that s*** hole of a hospital.
Its a sad day for Inverclyde, no doubt the whole hospital will shut soon.

It's just one of the steps that's taken place in wee Nickerlesses all new Scottish NHS which will


MEET DEMAND
mortonjag 2007-06-27 18:45:23
QUOTE(Loveless @ Jun 27 2007, 06:41 PM) [snapback]295835[/snapback]
The funny thing is I find it difficult to determine who is the least talented of these two useless induviduals.

Depends how you define 'useless'.

This marriage of convenience has earned them megabucks-well at least by tooth mechanic standards! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-27 18:48:37
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 27 2007, 06:43 PM) [snapback]295836[/snapback]
Another child - No thanks.

I'm sure we can do better than this.

Aye and another f*cking

'STRIKER'



Any chance of a goalie, central defender, midfield motivator, or winger?
mortonjag 2007-06-28 06:28:05
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 27 2007, 07:32 PM) [snapback]295887[/snapback]
Really!
I\\\'m somewhat of a morton fan aswell, and if you don\\\'t accept that people can\\\'t support two football teams Mortonjag then I\\\'m not the only Celtic supporter on here.

Aye, that\\\'s right. We\\\'re all someone\\\'s son, even old c*nts like you wink.gif
Mate, talking about raison d\\\'etre - you seem to f*cking live for this laugh.gif

Above - talking about distinguishing between fact and wind-up - try to think of the connotations of a word like hegemony and re-read my posts ohmy.gif If you still think I\\\'m serious, I\\\'ll give you a number for your children to ring and finally have you banged up in an Old Folk\\\'s Home.

It\\\'s a good wee forum when you\\\'re not on your dabs. Infact, it\\\'s still a good wee forum - it\\\'s hilarious to watch you play the wind up game and then cry when it comes to Sick Mick biggrin.gif
I hate Paisley more than you do, old man.

Mick, you claim you're NEVER serious and that you don't mean any harm. I'm quite sure that you and I could have a great old laugh in real life because we've both got a somewat disrespectful and ridiculous take on 'authority'.

I've said to you before I enjoy your banter on anything except this issue. I KNOW you're a part time Morton supporter, I know who several of your friends are on the forum, and I also know a wee bit more about you than you than you seem to think.

Ask the Moderators or people like Ian Clinging and Shedhead why it is that I feel so strongly-the truth is Mick that in terms of winding up and upsetting folk-it's actually your fellow (non lapsed) Catholics who ultimately suffer. That's really why I believe you do your Dad a disservice.
mortonjag 2007-06-28 06:34:10
QUOTE(standman @ Jun 27 2007, 10:40 PM) [snapback]295986[/snapback]
I've never uttered one which is past it's tell by date !!!

I've never been disappunted by one.
mortonjag 2007-06-28 06:37:30
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jun 27 2007, 08:29 PM) [snapback]295926[/snapback]
You're forgetting to add his Manchesterton posts wink.gif

I've no clue what's happened to him and his good lady whose baby's due in September. I guess they're too busy moving house and will reappear when the football gets back underway. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-28 06:42:32
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jun 27 2007, 11:06 PM) [snapback]295996[/snapback]
As a relative regular on this board and its predecessors, I have never really averaged more than one post per day.

In 7 years I can't have posted more than 2,500 times. It would therefore take me 28 years to post as many times as MortonJag has managed in 2!

I've quite often wasted an evening reading this board and regretted that loss afterwards, I can only imagine how some posters must feel. smile.gif

Since you SEEM like a serious bod who gets easily upset Scram-I'll ask you a SERIOUS question.

How long will it take you before you learn how to use your evenings more profitably?

Do you endorse freedom of speech?


VIVE LA DIFFERENCE
mortonjag 2007-06-28 06:51:38
QUOTE(Loveless @ Jun 27 2007, 06:56 PM) [snapback]295849[/snapback]
Haha.

Very true, they are now minted.

Also good to see your memory is still in excellent working order.

As is my smile.gif and my 'mechanic's a personal friend! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-28 06:56:19
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 27 2007, 09:34 PM) [snapback]295962[/snapback]
There's no doubt in my mind it was real. Every relationship's easy for the first year or so when there's a mutual physical attraction involved.

The problem was always going to be when the novelty wore off and they actually had to do other things than bang each other senseless.

People who marry that quickly will always have problems as it takes a couple of years to get to know someone properly.

IMO they were in lust, not love but in no way was it a sham.

PS I only watched CBB last year cos of George Galloway and that burd with the big jugs from Baywatch.

laugh.gif

Not ALWAYS true.
mortonjag 2007-06-28 07:04:33
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 28 2007, 12:49 AM) [snapback]296024[/snapback]
You can contact Ms Sturgeon by e mail.undefined
If you care about the welfare of your community, mark it for her attention and state the case clearly, i.e. We demand that a general hospital, providing accident and emergency, intensive care, medical, surgery and maternity services is retained in Inverclyde. Elaborate if you like, but make sure to get the message across.
SAVE THE INVERCLYDE ROYAL AND GIVE US BACK THE HEALTH SERVICE WE DESERVE

...and you will receive a polite reply from one of her Secretaries her word processor, carefully designed to make you think-'What a genuine and caring young woman'. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-28 07:08:14
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 28 2007, 01:26 AM) [snapback]296026[/snapback]
Ach away, you're just a cynic. Sure he was saying on the news that he was going to change things. For a minute I thought they might play 'Things Can Only Get Better' on the Tannoy. laugh.gif But nobody would fall for that one again.
Or would they?

They would DE, but there are significantly less of them! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-28 07:10:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 27 2007, 02:30 PM) [snapback]295715[/snapback]
Yer a bad man.

Yer a seditionist.

Go and stand in the corner.

When does Archive formally take over?
mortonjag 2007-06-28 07:40:31
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 27 2007, 10:26 PM) [snapback]295981[/snapback]
I was at that game in 1964 and I was positive that we beat Dundee 3-2 that day

We share at least something in common!

At the time I fancied a 'bird' in Kilmacolm who was a Dundee supporter, and persuaded her to go to the game with me. She really knew very little about football, let alone Morton-and as you say, we played well and gubbed them. My only success that day mind!

I always remember her repeatedly telling me to pronounce DUndee properly mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-28 07:50:59
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 27 2007, 11:20 PM) [snapback]296006[/snapback]
Just don't mention the outsize clothing laugh.gif

It wasn't inTENTional. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-28 07:52:59
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Jun 27 2007, 09:34 PM) [snapback]295963[/snapback]
I hope we don't get mcgowan back, i think he showed from the new year on that he is guff and a bad influence on the team ie. going in a huff everytime he never got the ball. also greacen and harding or laurel and hardie, are going to get very embarassed this season we must sign a centre half! Mcanespie on the left will help as mcgregor couldnt cut it there in an attacking manner, he should be given a chance as the seasoned sweepoer!

Good post- don't agree with it all, but makes a change to see Gowser painted in realistic colours.
mortonjag 2007-06-28 07:53:48
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jun 27 2007, 09:36 PM) [snapback]295965[/snapback]
They have internet access in Ravenscraig now?

That's good.

Are you in the locked ward?
mortonjag 2007-06-28 07:59:03
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Jun 27 2007, 11:36 PM) [snapback]296009[/snapback]
What!? Like Harding, Millar and McGowan weren't arrogant enough last season

The team need confidence not arrogance, otherwise the Div 1 teams will punish us for it

I agree-they need confidence AND that wee arrogant edge on the pitch-they started plenty of games last season in confident mood, but were often easily pissed on by their lessers.
mortonjag 2007-06-28 08:49:41
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 28 2007, 08:30 AM) [snapback]296046[/snapback]
laugh.gif For Christ's sake it's a wee forum - it's not like there's pictures of me shooting up in the telegraph.

laugh.gif

I'm in total agreement with your 'take' on the forum-like you, I believe that those gentle souls who venture in should slip quietly back out when they realise they're unhappy.

The problem is they don't-instead they gripe, and moan, and ultimately send threatening p.m.'s or report people to the Mods.

It's not inherently what you're doing that could lead to unwanted publicity Mick-it's the fact that there ARE folk on here with ISSUES! dry.gif

mortonjag 2007-06-28 14:29:33
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 28 2007, 10:54 AM) [snapback]296093[/snapback]
im not a hater of JM by any means and i actually think he has us playing good football apart from the missing addition of a proven goalscorer but i was just thinking about it and last season you could argue players that were played in a different position from their best position is

weatherson
mcgregor
stevenson
mcalister
millar
alex walker
mcgowan (for mortanjags eyes only tongue.gif )

so that could mean last season basically we could have had 6 out of 11 players playing at one time in the " wrong " position which IMO is something that shouldnt really happen.

Add Finlayson, or has everybody forgotten that not THAT long ago he was a 'McAnespie' type signing?
mortonjag 2007-06-28 14:32:35
QUOTE(cmonaton @ Jun 28 2007, 11:26 AM) [snapback]296111[/snapback]
your suggestion is way off the mark.whats with all the f words?.is that your first language?.

NO it's f*ckin' not-he's just f*ckin' frustrated by a f*ckin' irritating wee f*nny from f*ckin Saltcoats who thinks he's f*ckin' Jesus Christ all f*ckin mighty.
mortonjag 2007-06-28 14:34:47
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jun 28 2007, 10:48 AM) [snapback]296091[/snapback]
I don't like to copy and paste but having just posted the below on the "John Sutton" thread I realised that it was better on this thread:

I'm in despair regarding "new signings." We were told that much work had been done in identifying "targets" but nothing could/would happen until June. Here we are almost into July and all that has been accomplished is a mid-fielder (of unknown quality) and a "boy" from Celtic with no experience of "league" football.
All in all I'm severely depressed with steps to strengthen our squad and I may be wrong but I've got a feeling that things aint going to get much better.
Already I'm not looking forward to the new season.

Hmm-maybe it's the negativity boys to blame and Shoogly's just gone in one big HUFF! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-28 14:38:05
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 28 2007, 01:32 PM) [snapback]296158[/snapback]
As a fan no one can judge a player unless they are watching every team week in week out, something that is impossible to do. What i was meaning was the lack of info coming from the club which has been brought up many a time, other clubs FANS have more to go on whereas we are sadly lacking at the end of the day.

No doubt someone on here will come on and say, lets be patient etc etc. Welcome to the real world as they say.

Let's be patient-I'm getting slightly pissed off with all this negativity. Some people are never happier than when thry're having a good old moan. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-28 14:40:50 Is that Alex Williams the striker, Alex Williams the goalscorer, Alex Williams the attacking midfielder, or Alex Williams the guy whose brains are in his boots?
mortonjag 2007-06-28 15:00:23
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 28 2007, 02:44 PM) [snapback]296205[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif when laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

unsure.gif

or Alex Williams the right back-I was simply making a point Bryan-the guy's a striker in my book-so that MUST mean he's SOMETHING else! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-28 15:02:06
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 28 2007, 10:16 AM) [snapback]296073[/snapback]
yeah maybe if he got to play under someone like JM and alongside templeman we'd get the best out of him. although no doubt MJ would still complain that he's not a " striker " tongue.gif

Who is this Torres guy?
mortonjag 2007-06-28 15:05:44
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 28 2007, 02:00 PM) [snapback]296182[/snapback]
well, he's a ned skunk for one thing. another is that he's pish.

He's not a Skunk-he sometimes can be a bit neddish.
mortonjag 2007-06-28 15:11:49 I'm beginning to get a sneaking feeling that folks don't really rate the current squad-I can't seem to remember such voluble criticism last season, when those who did ask questions were repeatedly shouted down, Rae was God incarnate, and JM's arse provided a wide beam tan for the 'rose tints'.

I've been saying for months on end that we need three or four players in the correct positions, and we can at least have a bash at promotion. There is talent at Scapa. Unfortunately it is lacking on the Board and in management.





IMHO
mortonjag 2007-06-28 15:15:40
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 28 2007, 02:42 PM) [snapback]296204[/snapback]
AHHh f*** up

f*** f*** f*** f*** f***

Who the f*ck do you f*ckin' think you're f*ckin' talking to?

Are you f*ckin' Gordon Ramsay or f*ckin' something.

Oh-sorry Mr Rae, I just swore.
mortonjag 2007-06-28 15:18:00
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 28 2007, 10:03 AM) [snapback]296066[/snapback]
Sorry to disappoint, I can't join in just yet. I've got quite a punishing schedule at the moment

Happuns to be an excuse I'd like to punt out.
mortonjag 2007-06-28 15:21:55
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 28 2007, 11:00 AM) [snapback]296095[/snapback]
Geography wise , surely keeping the Rankin unit open and closing the RAH would make more sense . The Southern General is only 5 or 10 minutes up the road . To me it just doesn't make sense to threaten the lives of extectant mothers or their babies by forcing them to travel that distance.

Chrissiboi-the Southern is about to become the centre for Midwifery for a huge swathe of Glasgow-Queens Mothers will shut etc., etc., this whole thing's just about money-well the lack of it.
mortonjag 2007-06-28 15:27:05
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 28 2007, 02:44 PM) [snapback]296206[/snapback]
Finished reading "The Castle" by Franz Kafka on my lunchbreak...it ends mid-sentence! Bit f*cking abrupt, eh!?

Anyway, I was just wondering if there's any among the brainy c*nts who can explain to me what the score was with that. Is it meant to do that??

Always read the last page of any book first Mick.

I did it with the Bible and saved myself from damnation.
mortonjag 2007-06-28 15:28:28
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 28 2007, 03:23 PM) [snapback]296228[/snapback]
This thread makes me want to hang myself.

Don't keep us in suspunse.
mortonjag 2007-06-28 15:32:36
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 28 2007, 03:30 PM) [snapback]296236[/snapback]
That one doesn't even work!

Depunds how laterally you can think.
mortonjag 2007-06-28 15:33:57
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 28 2007, 03:19 PM) [snapback]296224[/snapback]

What's this google thing?
mortonjag 2007-06-28 15:35:48
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 28 2007, 03:25 PM) [snapback]296229[/snapback]
wink.gif

Y***s A*e

S*o*g*y ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-28 15:40:44
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Jun 28 2007, 03:35 PM) [snapback]296241[/snapback]
Search his name on it laugh.gif

Is Google not a goalie-I could swear he played at Old Trafford or somewhere.

HAW SHOOGLE SIGN GOOGLE
mortonjag 2007-06-28 15:43:03
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 28 2007, 03:36 PM) [snapback]296243[/snapback]
No.

No what?

You cant think laterally Mick-a broad minded lad like you. Opun your eyes!
mortonjag 2007-06-28 15:44:54
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 28 2007, 03:40 PM) [snapback]296244[/snapback]
blink.gif

You*rs A*e

Sh**g*y!
mortonjag 2007-06-28 15:47:13
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jun 28 2007, 02:06 PM) [snapback]296188[/snapback]
Who do Partick have worth ranting about? Noone I can see, a couple that are not bad, but not overly disappointed they haven't joined us.

I could have sworn you were just a fresh faced young lad-where did you gain such an encyclopaedic knowledge of all things football. You MUST get around. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-28 15:55:29
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 28 2007, 03:48 PM) [snapback]296252[/snapback]
Some attacking midfielder from Spain tongue.gif

Sounds more like the Bull than the Matador.
mortonjag 2007-06-28 15:56:55
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 28 2007, 03:49 PM) [snapback]296253[/snapback]
Yes, and he just spent a season amonst the seasoned pros and world-class talents of, er, the New Zealand semi-professional league.

Since he left the Midden he's been trying to get his photo next to "journeyman" and "average" in the dictionary. I'd leave well alone, personally, and hope some other club gets lumbered with his stupid Paisley self.

He's not a Skunk.
mortonjag 2007-06-28 15:59:56
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 28 2007, 03:54 PM) [snapback]296255[/snapback]
Away and chase yersel

Everyone and anyone is entitled to their own opinions on here. Wish to f*** folk would wake up and smell the coffee

I could have sworn it was Earl Grey in the Drawing Room with Arfur!
mortonjag 2007-06-28 16:04:44
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 28 2007, 03:55 PM) [snapback]296256[/snapback]
What really puzzles me in all this is that - it seems to me - the first services to go are ones that benefit from being local, while ones that *could* be centralised (like some in-patient care) are the ones that remain.

Like Willowman says, it just seems a prelude to the "no economic sense" argument by getting rid of the local services first then leaving the easily-centralised ones to go in one big block later on.

As for the incentive to live/stay here... well, there is none. Inverclyde and its various towns/villages are essentially turning into dormitory settlements for Glasgow and beyond - the new Port flats and houses are, I'm sure we are all too aware, not built for people living and working in the Port but for people zooming up the M8 each morning. Greenock's a dying town in every sense and in a few years there's going to be nothing left but flats and a couple of call centres.

It pains me to say it but I cannot imagine raising my kids here. I love Greenock and I love Inverclyde but there'll be nothing left by the time I'm a dad, I think. *shrug*

More negativity! Guess you've 'never been happier than when you're having a good moan'!

I'd live in the West End of Greenock any day in preference to my current 'pad'. Lovely views, fresh sea breezes, and only ten minutes drive from Paradise Lost.
mortonjag 2007-06-28 16:09:14
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 28 2007, 04:04 PM) [snapback]296261[/snapback]
If you're worried then I'm worried blink.gif as you've always
been laid back about these things when it comes to Morton.

What's the use of worrying?

All is in hand-the great plan will unfold at a pre-arranged time.

HAVE FAITH
mortonjag 2007-06-28 16:20:41
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 28 2007, 04:15 PM) [snapback]296271[/snapback]
admin, we need some additional smilies to sum up how i feel having just read the above postings. can we get one of those wee "shootin masel in the head" ones for example???

p.s.
anyone whose name starts with "M" who responds to my post is a big jessie, smells and also blows goats

I have reverted to sheep since our recent romp.
mortonjag 2007-06-28 19:56:13
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jun 28 2007, 05:00 PM) [snapback]296283[/snapback]
So that would be everyone & Anyone appart from morton14 & I ?

morton14 and I have just stated our opinion on the negativity so where is the problem GibbyTON- Is it just a problem because our opinions differ from yours?

I think it was our beloved Chairman who first used the term 'negativity' about posters. Since then it's been trawled out every time somebody disagrees with ANYTHING to do with the status quo.

If NEGATIVITY means daring to question a system which is plainly far from ideal, and seems to be getting worse-

LET'S HAVE MORE



NEGATIVITY
mortonjag 2007-06-29 04:31:22
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 28 2007, 08:38 PM) [snapback]296378[/snapback]
It never was worthwhile
So, pack up your troubles in your old kit bag and smile smile smile!!!

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mortonjag 2007-06-29 04:36:07
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jun 28 2007, 06:00 PM) [snapback]296306[/snapback]
I was going to post something on this matter but I'm speechless.

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mortonjag 2007-06-29 05:01:49
QUOTE(gmfc darren 1874 @ Jun 28 2007, 05:40 PM) [snapback]296298[/snapback]
i work in the cafe at the battery and alex came in yesterday i was talkin to him n he said he would come back but only jm left,he said he always looks out for the results

This is beginning to have a 'ring' to it.

Williams has been a 'tosspot' but wouldn't be the first player to sort himself out if things were in place.

JM is increasingly coming over as an unbending Martinet, in EVERY aspect of his behaviour-no imagination-total disciplinarian-and now it seems players may not be so keen to come to Morton.

I've always believed Shoogly appointed him as a 'Yes Man' but Herr Himmler was one of those too I believe.
mortonjag 2007-06-29 05:08:08
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 28 2007, 08:46 PM) [snapback]296385[/snapback]
Totally agree. A couple of injuries and suspensions would cripple an already threadbare squad.
For the first time in years I'm not buying a season ticket this year, mainly due to the derogatory comments of the Rae's toward the fans and also due to the fact I'm totally disillusioned with things at the moment.
There was horrendous criticism at stages all throughout last season, some of the les critical held off due to the fact we were always likely to win the league.

I think we need 3 or 4 players to go straight into the first team and another couple to raise the quality in reserve.

Why o why were last season's fringe players kept on???

These are the guys who should have been shown the door to free up wages.

Short sightedness in the extreme by both board and management.


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I agree.

There wasn't voluble criticism of many players though-plenty of individual sniping Bob, but the real criticism was of the manager and Chairman, and you KNOW what happened there.
mortonjag 2007-06-29 05:16:52
'However, Rae vehemently refutes this', claims Chris Fitzgerald in the 'Tilly' article.


Mr Rae seems rather upset over something barely newsworthy IMHO.

Is something getting to him?


mortonjag 2007-06-29 05:23:30
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jun 28 2007, 10:24 PM) [snapback]296468[/snapback]
Chance of a signing this week? By the way things are looking there's probably as much chance of a gammy off the pope!

Ever hopeful-are we? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-29 05:26:54 McGowan has little experience-he'd be a good 1st Division squad player-might even grab a regular slot with say Dunfermline or Livi-but would NEVER be touted as a 'striker'.

If he's brought back under that guise again, I'll be f*cking raging and not surprised in the slightest.
mortonjag 2007-06-29 05:29:52
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Jun 29 2007, 01:52 AM) [snapback]296548[/snapback]
Pun of the day laugh.gif

Chrissiboi's a sucker when it comes to puns-milks the last ounce out of them.
mortonjag 2007-06-29 05:33:19
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Jun 29 2007, 01:50 AM) [snapback]296546[/snapback]
How in the hell is Keenan still at Morton!? Walker i actually rate quite highly and i think he should stay but the other 2 should make way for better players

I'd definitely keep Deano IF we were genuinely adding to the squad. OK he's not the 'finished article' but he dug us out of a hole two or three times last season, AND had two MOTM awards-one at left back incidentally.
mortonjag 2007-06-29 05:43:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 28 2007, 07:24 PM) [snapback]296338[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


You can't handle the truth.


If you don't trust mortonjag, you can (not may) PM alibi.

He has only know me since 1958.

Then again, you probably don't trust anyone over 40.

huh.gif huh.gif

P.S. Thanx for your solitary PM ... I will frame it.

smile.gif smile.gif

'Bitter, pseudo intellectual pretentious cynics' seems just about right, coming as it does from that sweet, highly intelligent, and down to earth realist-Mr Real Hoops.

Isn't he the chap who believes 'Millions' is a 'Household Name' and still hangs up his tights at Christmas?
mortonjag 2007-06-29 05:46:43
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 28 2007, 06:10 PM) [snapback]296311[/snapback]
I've moved back home and it's great.

Lucky man-I would but my partner's career has to come first! sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-29 05:56:25
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 29 2007, 12:31 AM) [snapback]296526[/snapback]
Fair Do's MJ but what happens if one of your siblings, God Forbid, has any diificulties during child birth and ends up in a traffic jam with no=one able to help her blink.gif

You know where I'm coming from unsure.gif

Willow I believe it's WRONG to over centralise hospital facilities-I abhor the lies and flawed statistics flouted by politicians and NHS administrators in an attempt to disguise desperate measures to save cash.

On this SPECIFIC issue though, I'd suggest that the delay in getting from Inverclyde to Paisley may not be as serious as some are portraying it. Dire emergencies in childbirth are fortunately rare those days, and lesser cases can be dealt with by competent paramedical staff crewing ambulances. I'd suggest that longer delays are already experienced in certain city areas simply because of congestion at peak times.

It's still WRONG though.
mortonjag 2007-06-29 06:00:02 Mick's STILL pundering an answer!

Should we paronym for the delay?
mortonjag 2007-06-29 06:07:46
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jun 29 2007, 01:34 AM) [snapback]296545[/snapback]
I must admit I was wrong

After chatting with him he is actually a very nice bloke .. He is a midget tho ..

He's a 'midget tho'


WTF does that mean Scott-is he vertically challenged or did he give you a swatch at his tadger-is THAT why Chantelle kept saying 'Oh my Gawd'?
mortonjag 2007-06-29 07:30:09 How much do you need to pay for decent hair straighteners, and do you have any recommendations.

My daughter wants them as a birthday present, and I've been advised I may have to pay up to £100 quid for something called GHD.
mortonjag 2007-06-29 07:41:01 The younger posters won't have a clue what I'm talking about, but the credit card is only 41 years old as of today.

I can well remember a time when it was commonplace to get a decent discount for paying IN CASH-you could negotiate 10% or more off the price of a car for example. My Mum and Dad NEVER bought anything until they had the money 'put by', and we were made to put half of our earnings from paper rounds into our Savings Bank account, so we'd have money for the holidays.

I don't care what any of you says-as a Nation we were much happier in those days-at least where finances were concerned.
mortonjag 2007-06-29 08:49:29
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jun 29 2007, 07:49 AM) [snapback]296583[/snapback]
laugh.gif One of which certainly didn't come against Stirling in the last away game to them. How long was he on the park again, 6 minutes or so before crunching someone just outside the box this foul I hasten to add resulted in that wee toe rag Snodgrass scoring from a free kick. Was McInally right to take him off after that......probably not !

So Deano was responsible for us getting gubbed! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-29 08:52:28
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jun 29 2007, 08:40 AM) [snapback]296600[/snapback]
Yes but who'll look like the biggest tit when their signing rumour fails to materialise?

Oh there will be the usual big pair popping out to bang the negativity boys heads.
mortonjag 2007-06-29 08:58:52
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jun 29 2007, 08:42 AM) [snapback]296601[/snapback]
I'm slipping into deeper depression as a result of lack of signings at Cappielow.
Now that JM is comming back from holiday DDFR is now going off on holiday I would have thought that it would have made more sense for them to be "off" at the same time.
Pre season training must be about to start shortly and as JM has stated previously "getting in the full preseason training is very important as those who miss it never really catch up" yet despite all the preparation and offers made(?) we have not made any progress with strenghtening of the squad which everyone knows is necessary.
From another thread the possible return of McGowan does nothing to ease my concerns about lack of experience at 1st Div. level in our pool.

Has Shoogly ever come out and openly stated that this is to be a season when we take stock of our financial position while attempting to 'consolidate' in the first division?

If he has, I apologise, but so far as I've seen he's always claimed he's hell bent on the SPL, and he knows that's where he COULD be profitable.

Maybe everything IS sorted, and our impatience is unjustified-there again Mr Rae, why not share it with your fellow Ton fans, or is that beneath your dignity?


mortonjag 2007-06-29 09:02:46
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 29 2007, 08:55 AM) [snapback]296609[/snapback]
Concisely, if not so delicately put. Born in Pishley ? Yes. Fried in Weegie? Not fried, but roasted or planted they could be. tongue.gif

Or roasted and sprinkled even.
mortonjag 2007-06-29 09:05:20
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jun 29 2007, 08:50 AM) [snapback]296605[/snapback]
My hairdresser said that GHDs were not that good. He told me about Kodo straightners, i have had them for nearly 3 years, i use them every day. They cost about £70 fom Salon Services, before VAT.

Thanks princess-I presume they do a good job-how long does it take each morning, and is your hair naturally very curly or just wavy. My daughter's hair is shoulder length and moderately curly.
mortonjag 2007-06-29 09:09:13
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 29 2007, 09:04 AM) [snapback]296614[/snapback]
Let me tell you that I love you
That I think about you all the time
Caledonia, you're calling me
And now I'm going home

If I should become a stranger
You know that it would make me more than sad
Caledonia's been everything
I've ever had.

biggrin.gif
Let the people decide.

No problem for me-the former is daft IMO-who gives a f*ck about proud Edward's army except CLAYMORE C*CK and his cronies. Anachronistic claptrap.

Every Scot can identify with his own perception of 'Caledonia'.
mortonjag 2007-06-29 09:11:09
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jun 29 2007, 09:08 AM) [snapback]296617[/snapback]
They do a very good job, my hair is past my shoulders and wavy. It takes me about 10 mins in the morning. Tell her to use a heat protector spray.

Thanks very much!
mortonjag 2007-06-29 09:16:09
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jun 29 2007, 09:10 AM) [snapback]296620[/snapback]
Nah, the team were just sadly lacking in the second half of that game though that was the turning point so late in the game

What were they lacking most would you suggest-skill, tactics, or motivation. JM got slaughtered rightly after that game, but I believe bringing Deano on was NOT a daft decision-just happened to backfire on the day.
mortonjag 2007-06-29 09:20:12
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jun 29 2007, 09:14 AM) [snapback]296622[/snapback]
So your house will be empty then. Any valuables laugh.gif

The Rotweiler's staying back to look after them perhaps? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-29 09:34:02
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 29 2007, 09:15 AM) [snapback]296623[/snapback]
You are now sad bas numero uno. Im more than happy to lose the title after having it for about 2 years.

The rumours that top poster is a real cool guy are no longer true I'm afraid ph34r.gif

I am an extremely cool guy Puggsy -don't be put off by what others say. Posting on this board is a mere bagatelle for a man whose life is so full and overflowing with endless pleasures. Today as the sun shines on jolly old Glesca Toon-I think I'll ride Moby over to Pollok Park and feed the pigeons before giving Miss Brown her weekly dose of happiness from my confectionery store. She's been a new woman since she discovered the invigorating value of sooking on a half pounder. Then it's off for a quick tanning session at the Sauna before prayers.

This evening I'm addressing the local anti urban foxhunting group-those wee neds with their airguns and f*cking 'Tally Ho's don't know what's coming next-mark my words.

Where was I-I do ramble a lot-oh aye top poster-first prize I've ever won Puggs-sorry to steal yor title-I am SO, SO proud and humble! huh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-29 09:40:31
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jun 29 2007, 09:24 AM) [snapback]296628[/snapback]
Taking Deano off was the correct decision, putting him on in the first place was the mistake.

He's an awful player who shouldn't be at morton.

Very regal statement REX

Ever seen this?


IMO
mortonjag 2007-06-29 09:49:52
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jun 29 2007, 09:36 AM) [snapback]296639[/snapback]
Thoughts are with the family.

wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif wacko.gif mad.gif sad.gif unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-29 09:51:58
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 29 2007, 09:43 AM) [snapback]296643[/snapback]
Just thought I should point out that 'bairns' should be born in Falkirk. Ours are 'weans' and they should be born in Inverclyde. biggrin.gif

...and out of wedlock Pishley.
mortonjag 2007-06-29 09:55:40
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 29 2007, 09:48 AM) [snapback]296645[/snapback]
40 in January mate... rolleyes.gif

I think I will have a big party, and everyone is invited.

EVERYONE?
mortonjag 2007-06-29 09:57:32
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jun 29 2007, 09:54 AM) [snapback]296651[/snapback]
It should be everyones opinion MJ, anyone who thinks Keenan is good enough to play for morton should be poked in the left eye, with a stick, hourly.

Perversion knows no limits on this forum.
mortonjag 2007-06-29 10:01:39
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 29 2007, 09:58 AM) [snapback]296658[/snapback]
I'm guessing a top, shorts, and wait for it........socks to!!! tongue.gif

What will the strip SAY?
mortonjag 2007-06-29 10:03:06
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jun 29 2007, 09:55 AM) [snapback]296654[/snapback]
He scored a barrow-load in season 02/03, nearly half that the following season, andhasn't been able to hit a coo's arse with a banjo since.

I'm led to believe he knows his way around those quite nicely thanks!
mortonjag 2007-06-29 10:06:06
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jun 29 2007, 10:01 AM) [snapback]296661[/snapback]
The thing about this situation which annoys me more than anything is that the British public never got the opportunity to vote Mr Blair out of power and thus he was saved that humiliation.

Correct. The polis were in again yesterday according to the papers.
mortonjag 2007-06-29 10:08:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 29 2007, 10:06 AM) [snapback]296665[/snapback]
Oh but they did, on two occasions.

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mortonjag 2007-06-29 10:14:29
QUOTE(johnston @ Jun 29 2007, 09:16 AM) [snapback]296625[/snapback]
blink.gif

Greenock- River, hills and Morton.

East Kilbride- Roundabouts, bricks and JAMC (self-exiled).

You mean they DIDN'T kick him oot.

Cumbernauld's the worst 'New Town' with EK not far behind-those inverted snobs don't actually live in the towns-they inhabit 'expensive' suburban warrens because they're much cheaper than the real thing. I'd be more than content in an old Villa in the West End of Greenock, where I'd happily smile at Shoogly day and daily!
mortonjag 2007-06-29 10:19:09
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 29 2007, 10:16 AM) [snapback]296672[/snapback]
I still can't watch Gazza's goal, too painful a memory... Its about the most upset I've ever been when watching football.

Shame on you-such disrespect to the Prime Minister of our Nation.
mortonjag 2007-06-29 10:21:26
QUOTE(tigerjock @ Jun 29 2007, 10:08 AM) [snapback]296668[/snapback]
Yes, much happier,

outside sewerage..
10 to a room...
the plague...
sent to austrailia for pinching an apple...
working up chimneys at 6 years old....

So thats why your bitter and twisted, all that soot that's been hoovered up your nostrils and they must be fuucking big if the size of your ego is anything to go by

So that's what happened to you old bean!

Those were the days eh! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-29 10:23:57
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 29 2007, 10:20 AM) [snapback]296675[/snapback]
Pan bread is mince?? ohmy.gif wacko.gif Always thought mince was mince, and went well with totties. unsure.gif Doen't sound the same, mashed totties and pan bread. Think your wrong there mate tongue.gif

A mince piece should always be on plain bread-preferably between the back ends.
mortonjag 2007-06-29 10:25:13
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jun 29 2007, 10:21 AM) [snapback]296677[/snapback]
i dont have a credit card either. dont trust spending money i do not have and cannot account for.

i have a switch card with a set overdraft which is fine because i can always keep tabs on what im spending and how much ill maybe have to pay back (interest free aswell). I doubt that ill ever get a credit card for that reason alone

Sir, I salute your perspicacity!
mortonjag 2007-06-29 10:29:44
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 29 2007, 10:22 AM) [snapback]296678[/snapback]
Wear me, wear me i'm a Bukta strip laugh.gif

sad.gif
So it won't 'say' 'Millions', or 'Half Pounders' or 'Buchanan's Toffees' or that epitome of 'Household Names'


FUDGY WUDGY
mortonjag 2007-06-29 10:31:33
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jun 29 2007, 10:18 AM) [snapback]296673[/snapback]
Except you wink.gif

Knew it. sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-29 10:35:14
QUOTE(cmonaton @ Jun 29 2007, 10:23 AM) [snapback]296680[/snapback]
aye hes taking a hypo ah need sugar. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Is Mr Rae a diabetic-well bless my soul-he's lasted well. Banting and Best came along JUST in time dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-29 10:37:20
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 29 2007, 10:31 AM) [snapback]296686[/snapback]
I was hoping for sherbert fountain, or toffee apple.

How about

LIQUORICE PIPES
mortonjag 2007-06-29 10:40:14
QUOTE(Yoda @ Jun 29 2007, 10:32 AM) [snapback]296688[/snapback]
Having suffered with curly hair for 30 odd years and trying every straightening product and method on the planet I can honestly say for lasting effect you cannot beat GHD. My hair curls at tthe first sign of humidity but will stay straight well after having used GHD's. Don't buy any of the GHD products though as they smell a bit like engine oil IMHO.

Thanks Yoda-all advice will be carefully weighed up.
mortonjag 2007-06-29 10:45:44
QUOTE(tontastic @ Jun 29 2007, 10:43 AM) [snapback]296695[/snapback]
Probably next week.

Where have we heard that recently? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-29 10:48:10
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 29 2007, 10:43 AM) [snapback]296696[/snapback]

SOOR PLOOMS

CANDY STRIPED BALLS
mortonjag 2007-06-29 15:39:05
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 29 2007, 11:03 AM) [snapback]296711[/snapback]
1. I have no idea what this "truth" is you are referring to. I really don't know what it is you PM'd me about. It would seem you'd like me to track down the Chairman's son to ask him something about you but in all honesty I don't have a clue what nor do I have any desire to know.

2. I have no idea who or what is alibi? blink.gif

3. I am over 40 blink.gif

4. My PM to you was in reply to your bizarre PM to me ( see 1,)

5. please stop this now. thanks

As you appear to have cancelled the 'huff button' for NewTON RH, you may be surprised to learn that he may currently be asleep.

The truth to which he referred is THE TRUTH-pure and simple. The fact that you 'don't want to know' and pretend not to know our fellow poster 'Alibi' supports NewTON's 'head in the sand' comments.

Are you REALLY over 40-that's honestly a surprise-for a man of your age you are incredibly infantile at times. 'Please stop this now, thanks' from the man who started it-that's incredibly childish. If you have finally grown up, welcome to reality.
mortonjag 2007-06-29 15:51:10 To SM and LCM

Stop trying to foist your opunions on us.
mortonjag 2007-06-29 15:58:23 10 Mayfair and two Bucky cones wi' raspberry Tony.
mortonjag 2007-06-29 16:02:29
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jun 29 2007, 10:33 AM) [snapback]296689[/snapback]
Could you not have asked one of your 27 gay sons this question?

They all have lovely


STRAIGHT



syrups.
mortonjag 2007-06-29 16:04:16
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jun 29 2007, 01:49 PM) [snapback]296832[/snapback]
it means not very tall

I see-so Chis Templeman's not a midget-all is explained!
mortonjag 2007-06-29 16:10:17
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 29 2007, 02:51 PM) [snapback]296863[/snapback]
You still can - and the discount off a car was, and is, if you weren't trading anything in. Didn't have anything to do with paying in used notes.

Alibi I'm talking about 'cash' as distinct from 'H.P'. Dealers are now tied up almost inextricably with finance houses.

In the 50's and 60's-irrespective of 'Trade In' you could negotiate a better deal for 'cash' even if it was by cheque or promissory note.
mortonjag 2007-06-29 16:11:57
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 29 2007, 02:47 PM) [snapback]296862[/snapback]
Flower of Scotland is a good anthem - not too fast, so easy to sing as part of a big crowd. No way should it be dropped.

Similar to 'God save the Queen' then? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-29 16:14:14
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 29 2007, 03:54 PM) [snapback]296895[/snapback]
This argument has been done to death. Flower of Scotland is the national anthem.
You won't stop people singing it regardless if some new anthem is written.

Get over it unionists !! laugh.gif

A depressing and outdated dirge if ever I heard one Claymore C*ck-worse than the bloody Marseillaise.
mortonjag 2007-06-29 16:17:46
QUOTE(Mick @ Jun 29 2007, 01:03 PM) [snapback]296800[/snapback]
She'll be worried about the competition when she realises that her husband will now be playing with 10 other tits on a regular basis....

One of his biggest ever


BOOBS
mortonjag 2007-06-29 16:20:14
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 29 2007, 11:44 AM) [snapback]296742[/snapback]
i find it hard to believe that this guy is allowed to post on this site anymore. and yes, mentaljag, i believe in free speech.

Aye right-do you think that comment's punny? smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-29 16:23:35
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 29 2007, 01:22 PM) [snapback]296814[/snapback]
how do you know he's a pilot? oh aye, he mentioned it a few thousand times. i forgot.

Never-and is that unknown lady the one who kick starts the Jumbo jets for him?
mortonjag 2007-06-29 16:25:52 Blessed is he who expecteth nothing, for he shall not be disappointed.
mortonjag 2007-06-29 16:32:59
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Jun 29 2007, 04:08 PM) [snapback]296901[/snapback]
It's amazing how people see players differently. I couldn't disagree more on your assessment of MacGregor. A good enough footballer but never a centre half in a million years.

An enigma if the truth be told-too slow, not quite good enough in the air-the only place I'd play him would be midfield-and we're already spoiled for right footers there.
mortonjag 2007-06-29 16:35:44 And the sponsor of the second division champions is none other than the owner of the club.

SURPRISE SURPRISE
mortonjag 2007-06-29 17:34:13
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 29 2007, 04:12 PM) [snapback]296906[/snapback]
Although some would want a cap on criticism .

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mortonjag 2007-06-29 17:37:32
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jun 29 2007, 05:08 PM) [snapback]296934[/snapback]
Good positive thread. Strip well received and then he comes along. It would do your head in.

For once I'll lower myself to the level of my mindless critics-I'm making a very POSITIVE point-if you're too stupid, biased, blind, or whatever to see it-

f*** OFF
mortonjag 2007-06-29 17:45:27
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 29 2007, 05:11 PM) [snapback]296935[/snapback]
Shocked and stunned. I agree that it's a wondrous choon, bloodthirsty lyrics though. Thought that an auld hippy like yersel' would prefer a Scottish reworking of "If you're going to San Francisco". rolleyes.gif

...be sure to wear some Flowers of Scotland up yer kilt!
mortonjag 2007-06-29 17:49:29
QUOTE(Kaney @ Jun 29 2007, 05:29 PM) [snapback]296940[/snapback]
Will you f*ds shutup and leave Mr. Hoops alone please.
Honestly. You're both a pain in the hole sometimes.
... The majority of the time actually.

Leave Mr Hoops alone young Kane..seems to me I've NEVER attacked candle man-only ever snuffed out his ridiculous knee jerk sycophancy.
mortonjag 2007-06-29 17:54:04
QUOTE(tigerjock @ Jun 29 2007, 05:31 PM) [snapback]296942[/snapback]
What were you trading in...a horse and cart tongue.gif

Horses and carts were already somewhat rare by the 60's stripey dick-though my pal's Dad still used a horse and plough on the farm at Auchinleck 'til about 1961. Late forties and early fifties-a wee bit more common, but 'motors' were the normal street traffic even then! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-29 17:57:09
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 29 2007, 02:04 PM) [snapback]296840[/snapback]
If my best friend was an Orangeman, he wouldn't be able to attend my funeral. He wouldn't be able to come to my weans Christening. He wouldn't be able to be the best man at my Wedding.

Tell me that isn't bigotry.

Hope it's soon Mick-I'm free for the foreseeable future.
mortonjag 2007-06-29 17:58:44
QUOTE(Loveless @ Jun 29 2007, 02:20 PM) [snapback]296850[/snapback]
Brilliant.

It's true though. The Orange Lodge is full of animals.

Amber beavers-the lot of them.
mortonjag 2007-06-29 18:02:17
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 29 2007, 03:33 PM) [snapback]296880[/snapback]
Why would the orange people want to celebrate American Independance Day?? unsure.gif

Because they're f*ckin stupid apparently, AND bigots to boot-FFS everybody knows it's the 14th of July they celebrate.
mortonjag 2007-06-29 18:03:58
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jun 29 2007, 03:50 PM) [snapback]296889[/snapback]
A mate of mine that used to live in Glasgow a few years back had policemen come up to his door during an orange walk to ask his flatmate to take down an irish tricolour from his room wall, which could be seen from the street, as it was offensive to the march. What about the march being offensive to him? Does he not have the right to have the march re-routed from going past his house if he doesn't want to see it? rolleyes.gif

These marches only serve to encourage religious aggression, and there is no place for them in the modern world.

ONE SCOTLAND!

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Ah those poor multicultural innocents abroad! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-29 18:14:24
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jun 29 2007, 06:03 PM) [snapback]296962[/snapback]
IF he ever found his form that took us to the top of the 2nd div and IF he ever totally screwed the nut I would take him back. A great player on his day, totally wasted

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We're not talking about footballing ability Blue-the concensus is clearly that he's a wee

C*NT


I'd happily be relegated next season rather than have a wee c*nt playing for us.
mortonjag 2007-06-29 18:18:49
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jun 29 2007, 04:23 PM) [snapback]296914[/snapback]
"Up the Ton".

On ignore since 17-August 06. rolleyes.gif

Jesus Christ-the wacko.gifPOWER of that man!
mortonjag 2007-06-29 18:22:00
QUOTE(Up the Ton @ Jun 29 2007, 02:03 PM) [snapback]296839[/snapback]
New signings to be announced today on the clean side of Renfrewshire, we have signed:

Craig Dargo
Gary Mason
Will Haining
Mark Howard
I think we'll be keeping the Renfrewshire Cup for another year, btw expect a pumping I've heard there's a competition within Love Street as to which player can score the most goals against you this year.

Shouldn't be too difficult against a bunch of 2nd division diddies like yourselves.

Enjoy your moment in the sun Skunks***-what's done in haste is rued at leisure. Mr Rae has plans which I'm sure will put those comments in stark perspective.
mortonjag 2007-06-29 18:37:21
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Jun 29 2007, 06:17 PM) [snapback]296974[/snapback]
Thats just ridiculous

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mortonjag 2007-06-29 18:39:16
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 29 2007, 06:27 PM) [snapback]296977[/snapback]
The Orange walks this weekend made me think how bigotry could be stamped out and the main thing IMO is that children should not be made to attend a certain school just because or their religion.

One school for all.

If we are teaching children from 4/5 years of age that they are different it can only follow on into adult life.

Am sure Weymss Bay still has a primary school with kids from all religions in attendance, which IMO should be mirrored right across Scotland and not only in primary schools.

If you choose to bring your children up to believe a certain religion, surely that is down to you and not for schools. religion in schools should be stopped, apart from teaching everyone all about the different types in the world. I know that in non catholic schools kids are still taken to church etc this in my mind should also stop.

What do you all think


Education and religion should be separate.
mortonjag 2007-06-30 07:06:23
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jun 29 2007, 07:18 PM) [snapback]297000[/snapback]
aye mj thats a tad far even for you!!

i know he didnt have the right attitude, but as I said if he screwed the nut id take him back. a natural striker is what we've been missing for a ages

Blue I'm beginning to realise that I'm misunderstood far more than I believed. That comment-like 90% of mine- was tongue in cheek. I'm a total pragmatist-if somebody's banging in goals for the Ton I couldn't care less what he does elsewhere.
mortonjag 2007-06-30 07:12:57
QUOTE(btb @ Jun 29 2007, 07:20 PM) [snapback]297002[/snapback]
'So long as there's a breath in his body', GMFC will stay under total control of a man who's rapidly turning from saviour to saboteur.

He's so pleased with himself as he makes such announcements to the press-brushing aside 'several' genuine attempts to invest in or buy over OUR club.

Those fans who are willing to put in their tuppenceworth are seen as 'troublemakers', and a 'menace', and their input, which regularly puts the Chairman's pathetic programme pish to shame, is labelled 'a rag' by his independently minded boy child.

McInally was recruited because he fitted into the big picture-a known 'name' and palpable 'yes man', who will do exactly what he's told when he's told. I find it impossible to assess JM fairly with that old autocrat pulling the strings, but he's NOT set the heather on fire, and we DID almost blow it again last time.

I don't know that old fart personally, nor do I wish him any harm, but IMHO he's become an embarrassing impediment to progress-and I GUARANTEE he will NEVER change.

The alternative?

TAXI FOR RAE.

....I believe that those comments, and the comments I DELIBERATELY made about 'STARK CONTRAST', have been construed as contradictory BTB. I don't believe they are! dry.gif

mortonjag 2007-06-30 07:16:11
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 29 2007, 07:41 PM) [snapback]297027[/snapback]
C'mon, mortonjag, I dont think I've ever seen you stick IMO after a comment. laugh.gif

Away an' bile yer heid-I have sot-well at least wanst!
mortonjag 2007-06-30 07:18:49
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 29 2007, 07:56 PM) [snapback]297045[/snapback]
I'm sure Crawford can stand in for his Old Man and complete the signings in his absence.

RLY! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-30 07:22:52
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 29 2007, 10:16 PM) [snapback]297137[/snapback]
I'm off with the boss to Barbados for a bit of sun washed down with rum punches. I am leaving depressed because of the lack of signings and if I come back and there's still nothing to report, I'll be looking for the use of a loaded revolver and an empty room!!

Fancy a euthanasia pact instead Tonsilitis?

I'll leave you to speculate on the intended beneficiaries. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-30 07:28:53
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jun 29 2007, 09:47 PM) [snapback]297124[/snapback]
Ah the cut and thrust of civilised debate. laugh.gif
Given your continual derisory comments about Dougie Rae and his company's involvement with Morton I (apparently wrongly) presumed you were disappointed at his continued involvement. I apologise unreservedly if I offended you. I am however surprised that you should take such umbrage. I have also never resorted to swearing at fellow board members. You disappoint me. sad.gif seem to have lost your sense of humour mj.

I'll never lose my sense of humour-it's a strong second to my cynicism. Rae's more interested in pushing his tooth rotting empire than courting a more profitable sponsor it appears. Non Morton folks think the Logo's are totally naff too.

That was my point.

As to swearing at you-it wasn't that you offended me-I just tire occasionally of voluntarliy acting as a target for random bullets.
mortonjag 2007-06-30 07:31:02
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Jun 29 2007, 11:05 PM) [snapback]297157[/snapback]
Really like the home top, think the long sleeves will look cracking although I see a previous poster said the neck was different which put him off - how different can it be to a crew neck?

Kinda dissapointed with the away top - too similar to previous efforts, IMO the away top should be a chance to experiment and play around with the design a bit, give us something new - a blue flash theough it even would liven it up.

Why are loads of folks so unhappy with the Millions logo - looks okay to me, in fact the embossed version looks better than the Buchanan's one, not sure why so many folk are against it - is it the name, the design, the colour or what?

It's the blatant loss of a good financial deal with a reputable sponsor.
mortonjag 2007-06-30 07:51:33 Grindlay's an excellent keeper on his day, and has played a couple of blinders against us. Not a big name but he's only 25 and goalies often take a while to mature. I'm quite pleased with this signing.
mortonjag 2007-06-30 07:53:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 30 2007, 07:25 AM) [snapback]297260[/snapback]
I'll leave you to speculate on the intended beneficiaries

The long suffering Cappielow crowd ? ?

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mortonjag 2007-06-30 08:00:36
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jun 30 2007, 07:43 AM) [snapback]297266[/snapback]
Without knowing how much Golden Casket stump up for sponsorship I have no idea whether a better deal is available, and I suspect neither do you.

What non Morton folk think of our sponsorship/logo's is neither here or there. They don't support Morton, not will any of them invest in a shirt or any other piece of merchanidise.

Away with you! rolleyes.gif

Sponsors aren't interested in who buys the stuff except in the interest of promoting their product to as wide an audience as possible.

We 'll be playing in the first division-we'll have TV coverage (a wee bit anyway), and we'll be attracting biggish crowds by non SPL standards.

I firmly believe an attractive deal could have been struck had that been wanted, but as usual, it's 'keep it in the family and repel boarders' at any cost.
mortonjag 2007-06-30 08:07:20
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 29 2007, 07:40 PM) [snapback]297025[/snapback]
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This has got to get a nomination for Thread of the Year, makes a nice change from the usual stuff smile.gif

Thanks to everybody my daughter will now be having Good Hair Days every day.

Thanks to all
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mortonjag 2007-06-30 08:09:56
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 29 2007, 06:55 PM) [snapback]296986[/snapback]
See I couldn't make the same joke to you, because yours most likely will be soon. ohmy.gif

Always expect the unexpected young Sir!
mortonjag 2007-06-30 08:16:20
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 29 2007, 09:05 PM) [snapback]297105[/snapback]
I don't get too uptight over these morons. To me they are an irrelevance.

I met a women who had just come back from an orange walk a couple of years back. I was in a pub and she and her friend came in for a drink. She let it be known they were at the orange walk.

I asked her why don't they march for the anniversary of Killiecrankie ? at least that battle took place in Scotland I said. Eh ? she replied. You know Williamites v Jacobites I said trying to give her a wee hint. Eh ? she replied. Nuff said was my last reply to her. Eh ? she said.

To her your comments were clearly irrelevant CLAYMORE C*CK-for what it's worth I support your views on this one.
mortonjag 2007-06-30 08:18:57
QUOTE(Lily @ Jun 29 2007, 06:51 PM) [snapback]296984[/snapback]
No I was not looking up porn. I looked up Cliff Richard forums and this thread come up. I don't know Cliff personally. I just know what I have always read and heard about him and it has always been good. So I would hate to think if all of itis not true.
It would mean he is a hypocrite.

It would mean he's a respectable and ultra discreet homosexual Christian gentleman.
mortonjag 2007-06-30 08:25:06
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 29 2007, 08:14 PM) [snapback]297064[/snapback]
I'm sure you only bought them for the articles, but that's rather a lot to read at one time. biggrin.gif
Oh, and it's Toni.

So Toni's your top shelf man Trumpet-I was trying to give mine a more authoritative haunel, but Gordon didn't seem quite right for a Tali an Italian ice cream purveyor.
mortonjag 2007-06-30 08:33:05
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 30 2007, 12:08 AM) [snapback]297174[/snapback]
jug,

even nowadays you can get a better deal if you go to a VW showroom with £10k in your pocket,
than if you were to go with a head full of aspirations. Unfortunately that luxury isnt open to everyone, especially in this day and age when young folk are in debt before they even earn a wage thanks to this Labour government, so therefore Loans, Lenders and Credit Brokers have their place.

Not that i'd expect you to understand.

Possibly and possibly not. Are you speaking from personal experience?

Big dealers are so tied up with finance houses and the parent manufacturer that hitting preset targets frequently comes before giving the best personal deal. In individual cases you can still negotiate a good deal if cash is wanted up front, but that's very uncommon in practice.

It seems simplistic to blame young people's debt solely on ANY government, though flagrant materialism and a grasping meritocracy as pioneered by Mrs T have much to answer for.

I wouldn't expect you to expect me to understand BTW. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-30 08:38:03 Big Tits

BBC Weather

Frustrated housewives

Herald

Tasty Teens

Herald crossword (printable)-saves money!

Elephant list

GMFC.net--to bring me back down!

Greenockmorton.net.

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mortonjag 2007-06-30 08:47:47 I don't actually lay much blame at the kids' door. They didn't ask for a new 'father' to walk in and take over their 'Mummy'.

She probably imagines they should just accept the situation, but it just doesn't work like that, and she's angry that they're giving her beloved a hard time, so she's taking it out on them.

That will simply heighten their resentment.

Kids are just kids-adults should know better.

Nothing she does will MAKE them accept the situation overnight-she needs to do some hard thinking on this one IMO.

Anyhow it sounds as though she and the bloke need a couple of weeks on their own!
mortonjag 2007-06-30 08:53:08
QUOTE(SC81 @ Jun 29 2007, 08:28 PM) [snapback]297075[/snapback]
Schools funded with taxpayers money should be for everyone with no specific religion taught. If catholics, Church of Scotland, etc want to have their own schools they should pay for them out of their own pockets.
At the same time, while I agree that religion should be taught at home by parents, the problem is, bigotry is also taught at home, so putting kids of all religions in one school is not going to end bigotry.

Disagree strongly-kids ain't stupid-if reality differs from what Mummy and Daddy say, sooner or later they'll open their eyes.
mortonjag 2007-06-30 09:00:27
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 29 2007, 08:36 PM) [snapback]297086[/snapback]
If you don't know where you come from you won't know where your going.

We shouldn't be ashamed of the past. Especially we shouldn't be ashamed of heroes like Wallace and Bruce.

Tourists come from all over the world because of an interest in Scottish history.

Of course we should look to the future, to a new Scotland. But we should never forget the past

I always drive with my eyes steadfastly fixed on the rear view mirror-still praying for that first 'no claims discount'! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-30 09:03:56
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jun 30 2007, 07:34 AM) [snapback]297265[/snapback]
I agree. Reading it off the back of a shortbread tin isn't terribly useful either.

Or a Morton programme! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-30 09:05:57
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 30 2007, 08:45 AM) [snapback]297283[/snapback]
If you read my posts you might see I haven't ignored history. I certainly have a different interpretation of history than you.
Peril indeed. There's people marching this weekend who have heads full of 'history'. It's about bloody time they put aside their perceptions of ancient battles as well.

Not like you to get sucked so far in by CLAYMORE C*CK and Spiderman DE.

As you said, leave them to their fairy stories-I do hope that comment's PC.
mortonjag 2007-06-30 09:12:18
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jun 30 2007, 08:19 AM) [snapback]297274[/snapback]
I agree that sponsors have essentially no interest over and above advertising - why is that then a crime for Golden Casket?

I have no doubt that the thought of 2-3000 scottish football fans watching every week will have the industrial giants of the land salivating with the thought of how they can maximise their exposure. Your discription of a 'wee bit' of tv football coverage is pretty accurate and that will no doubt be a clincher when the business plan is drawn up smile.gif

You may firmly believe but as usual you are short on evidence.

Advertising-even by the best agencies in the land-is a gamble, and it's amazing what some bigger companies will do, provided it's within budget.

I'm making a simple point-I don't think that the best possible deal has been struck regarding sponsorship. I think that the financial wellbeing of the club should come before that of Golden Casket.

Do you disagree?
mortonjag 2007-06-30 09:15:51
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 30 2007, 09:14 AM) [snapback]297302[/snapback]
I couldnt care if he comes from Benburb or Renfrew Juniors, so long as he does a good turn for us.

AGREED! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-30 09:16:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 30 2007, 07:22 AM) [snapback]297258[/snapback]
Both Crawford and Sugar are away on holiday.

The Gaffer can now run the show from Monday morning.

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via international IT!
mortonjag 2007-06-30 09:21:32
QUOTE(shedhead @ Jun 30 2007, 09:12 AM) [snapback]297299[/snapback]
Catholics are taxpayers too wink.gif

Maybe they should do away with separate schooling. Maybe then Catholics will stop being persecuted so much. The majority of sectarian crimes do happen against Catholics after all. rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2007-06-30 09:25:23
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 30 2007, 09:13 AM) [snapback]297301[/snapback]
Ach well, maybe I imbibed too much last night. As Burns wrote: 'Freedom and whisky gang thegither'. In my case' it was freedom to gibber on the nonsense board. biggrin.gif

The monkey confirms that alcohol loosens the tongue, lessens social awareness, and seems to be a pre-requisite for many, prior to posting! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-30 09:30:49
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 30 2007, 09:24 AM) [snapback]297307[/snapback]
Is Park Mains High School in Erskine not a mixed school? I hated the fact when I grew up that I had pals who I would happily play football with all night and then meet them again in the morning only for us to split into two groups and head for our respective schools. Made no sense to me. My folks were regular churchgoers when I was young and I was made to go. Eventually I made my own mind up about it and decided that altough I have beliefs, I don't need to go to church to practise them. Neither did i need the school telling me that i must go to church or listen to the minister at school assembley. Religion should be taught by the parents.

If the 'religion' is conducive to integration and general wellbeing, I agree.

'Religion' is largely defunct in a modern day technology driven society. That does not mean it can't be replaced by 'Christian' values, the primary one being, 'Love thy neighbour as thyself'.
mortonjag 2007-06-30 09:35:13
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 30 2007, 09:33 AM) [snapback]297318[/snapback]
Please tell us who would be a better sponsor of Morton FC?

I told you before


ZIGGY'S ZIMMERS
mortonjag 2007-06-30 09:37:28
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jun 30 2007, 09:33 AM) [snapback]297319[/snapback]
I'm not sure it's as easy to seperate the well-being of one from the other given our relationship/dependance. In an ideal world I would much rather see a far greater level of participation in ownership of club shares rather than the all eggs in one basket approach that we have now. However I don't know whether financially broader ownership would provide the same level of funding as we have at the moment.

It would if Gordon Ramsay (just for example) agreed to match Shoogly pound for pound, on the strict understanding that all duties would be delegated.
mortonjag 2007-06-30 09:47:37
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 30 2007, 09:37 AM) [snapback]297324[/snapback]
Fair point MJ. Mind you my neighbour is a Psycho.

His condition is doing him great harm-as a loving neighbour why don't you put him out of his misery?

I like the GOOD SAMARITAN parable.

A Jew, a Levite, and a Samaritan Social Worker came upon a poor wretched soul, lying in the gutter- battered, beaten, and bereft of his garments by a robber.

The Jew and Levite passed by on the other side.

'Come back' cried the Social Worker, 'We must find the man who did this-he desperately needs our help'. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-30 10:00:17
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 30 2007, 09:55 AM) [snapback]297328[/snapback]
It's a female (using the term in it's loosest sense) but i see what you mean. Would love to put her out of her misery but i am not a violent person.

Kill her with kindness then-wait 'til she's asleep and fill the whole house with molten chocolate. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-30 10:03:42
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 30 2007, 09:59 AM) [snapback]297330[/snapback]
He's very highly-rated, apparently, especially by Sons fans. I've never seen him as the hero that they do but they saw him play a hell of a lot more than I did. Oh well, good to have competition for the #1 jersey, anyway.

We'll see how it goes cool.gif

He's quite a strong lad, and tends to take total command of the box-good all rounder, and brave too.
mortonjag 2007-06-30 11:02:54
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 30 2007, 10:36 AM) [snapback]297347[/snapback]
Bird watching eh.....? rolleyes.gif

I've always been a sucker for big tits Mr Edinton!
mortonjag 2007-06-30 11:14:18
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 30 2007, 10:05 AM) [snapback]297334[/snapback]
If you decide, like me, not to bring your waines with any religion, do you know it is still forced on them by schools, they must attend Church of Scotland education classes.

All madness, schools is for education not for religion.

I don't think that's an accurate description-they do get 'Religious Education', but it's education about ALL religions-what people believe and how different religions practice. I think there may still be 'school chaplains' who say a few words at formal events but that's about the size of it.

My three kids all went to a state school. One's now a practising Catholic, one's an atheist, and one's married to a Catholic who converted to Judaism. They all seem fairly happy, and that's all that matters to me.
mortonjag 2007-06-30 11:20:06
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 30 2007, 11:11 AM) [snapback]297366[/snapback]
Good idea!! laugh.gif laugh.gif

I would block the road with my car if anyone tried to do a religious wlk past my house!!

Its way out of order in this day and age..

1 Scotland

It would rapidly be uplifted on the instructions of the polis. They once held me back for over five minutes on an emergency call-said that 'under NO circumstances' were they allowed to break the ranks.

Biggest joke of all-in Coatbridge-the least proddy town in Scotland.

Drunken orange scum.
mortonjag 2007-06-30 11:23:57
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Jun 30 2007, 10:28 AM) [snapback]297341[/snapback]
With Morton being part of Golden Casket, surely the "financial wellbeing" of the club and the parent company are one and the same?

Unfortunately that's not the case-GMFC is a limited company, which forms part of Shoogly's group. Some have even suggested he keeps the Ton in the red for tax advantages to the parent company.
mortonjag 2007-06-30 11:29:51
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jun 30 2007, 11:10 AM) [snapback]297365[/snapback]
what do you expect after over 9000 posts of controversy, sarcasm and pish tongue.gif

IF that's a serious question-maybe it is- I'd expect folks to stop believeing 'throw away comments' like yours and READ my f*cking posts, instead of jumping to conclusions! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-30 11:39:47
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 30 2007, 11:21 AM) [snapback]297374[/snapback]
That mantle belongs to South Uist or Croy, sire.

Nonsense-neither of those is a 'town' Mick-but your 'point' is correct.
mortonjag 2007-06-30 11:42:24 Obviously heading for the Kilcreggan ferry!
mortonjag 2007-06-30 11:43:39
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jun 30 2007, 11:30 AM) [snapback]297381[/snapback]
£40 for short sleeve, £45 for long.

£42.50 if you can't make up your mind!
mortonjag 2007-06-30 11:48:09
QUOTE(lush @ Jun 30 2007, 11:46 AM) [snapback]297393[/snapback]
Thats more expensive than an old firm top. ohmy.gif

Aye but we're advertising a 'Household Name! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-30 15:42:25 Clyde may not be out that much in legal expenses-tribunals are much less complicated and more informal than courts of law. having said that £30,000 is a WHACKING payout from a tribunal, as there is a menu system to establish a maximum payout in each case.

It sounds like Roberts may now be about to file for a civil action, which is very different.

No smoke without fire they say!
mortonjag 2007-06-30 15:46:47
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jun 30 2007, 02:23 PM) [snapback]297461[/snapback]
Ah ! the bi-monthly ''lets not have separate schools thread''

Everytime this topic comes up on here then I always say my opinion too would be that there should be one school for all and that religion can be taught at the church / mosque / synagogue / temple / whatever.

...keep saying it WDE-if enough do often enough, in enough places, it may eventually 'sink in'.
mortonjag 2007-06-30 15:59:35 I'm VERY suspicious of many things-superstition, like believing all the fairy tales we hear on web sites-not on my agenda.
mortonjag 2007-06-30 16:32:37
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jun 30 2007, 12:30 PM) [snapback]297433[/snapback]
You don't know but you would like a similar deal from another firm. huh.gif
It appears. !! Wheres the evidence (yet again).
Non Morton folks. How many? Who? How qualified are these people?
If you tire of it STOP volunteering!
I firmly believe. I admire your faith. huh.gif Still no proof.
Gordon Ramsay!!! Why would he or anyone else match Dougie Rae (for that is his name) pound for pound and then delegate all duties. Why why why would anyone do that? Give me one example where a the largest benefactor to a football club does not have control of the club.

Morton is important to us but not to major sponsors.

Your anti Dougie Rae stance has become even more predictable.
Good strip, hope it sells well and generates as much revenue as possible for the club. Well done all involved in its conception and manufacture.

Would you like to explain that comment? I am not anti Shoogly-just VERY, VERY pro Morton.

You claim to 'run your own business', not to know MR Rae (THAT is his name if you want to be so bloody nitpicking), and to have no knowledge of goings on behind the scenes.

I checked your personal details-ZILCH-another who hides behind anonymity to 'beat the big drum'.

Your recurring theme is accusing other posters of 'not knowing'. It seems we are NOT entitled to opinion or even to reasoned assessments short of fact, in your Holier than thou' book.

It seems incredibly hypocritical given your self confessed ignorance of detail that you continue to praise what is construed not just by me as a bad decision for Greenock Morton.

MR Rae's not been getting such a good press of late. He's been slated for lack of signings. I've said we should wait before making judgement. I've suggested that he may have wakened to the financial reality of football versus 'sweeties', and asked if it's right that he continues to'repel boarders'.

Going back to the specificity of this topic-I live in Glasgow where I have numerous contacts with things non Greenock, and non Morton. I assure you that the general perception is that Shoogly has created something of a microcosm at Cappielow, exemplified by sponsorship of the Club and advertisement of his sweeties on the strips.

The BIG picture is that he's a wee self made business man who's probably bitten off more than he can chew with our football club, and who may now be making a bit of an arse of it.
mortonjag 2007-06-30 16:44:57
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jun 30 2007, 11:53 AM) [snapback]297403[/snapback]
ok sorry, what do you expect after over 6000 posts of controversy, sarcasm and pish. im sure the other 3000 were all reasonable and valid

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That's better-now will you define 'pish' for me.

BTW I'm fully 'au fait' with the physiological meaning-WAIT-is that last comment 'PISH'?

Am I supposed to say instead 'I know it's what comes out your Willie when you go for a number one'?

Controversy Blue-where would we be without it?

Sarcasm-the lowest form of wit, and still infinitely preferable IMHO to the mindless nonsense which spews daily from the board's children.

The sad thing-I DO read it before replying-at least I try to treat all posters as equals until proven otherwise. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-06-30 16:50:16
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Jun 30 2007, 12:13 PM) [snapback]297415[/snapback]
I have wathed him on numerous occasions, and he is not a keeper I rate, but would need to see how he performs again.

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mortonjag 2007-06-30 16:51:53
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jun 30 2007, 12:14 PM) [snapback]297416[/snapback]
As with all of signings, I will reserve judgement until they have played at least half a dozen games, but along with McAnespie this would appear another quietly impressive signing. I know some people would prefer a big-name signing but to be honest,k as long as they do the job for us, I will be more than happy. With regards as to who will be first choice, I would think that both keepers will be given equal opportunity during pre-season and the number 1 will go to whoever has impressed most during matches and training.

Tonosaurus seems to state the obvious-David McGurn might disagree.
mortonjag 2007-06-30 16:57:18
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jun 30 2007, 04:20 PM) [snapback]297519[/snapback]
That's way too sensible for this board.

I demand you delete this, and replace it with a thread slating Douglas Rae immediately.

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Little ginger nut blows off more steam.

It's a very sensible post.

Just because you happen to disagree with others does not make them invalid.

Do you defend freedom of speech?
mortonjag 2007-06-30 17:06:01
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 30 2007, 04:55 PM) [snapback]297531[/snapback]
I'm not DDFR's greatest fan by any stretch of the imagination, and I'm not joining the Golden Straw brigade who try to use the club as a meal ticket, but i have to state that DDFR is certainly not the worst football chairman out there. He has his faults, but to be disparaging enough to refer to him as 'a wee self made business man' whenever he manufactures and markets a largeish brand name and employs a fair amount of folk at his Fort Matilda factory, is nothing short of preposterous.

C'mon Narky-there's nothing preposterous about it at all, and those are not MY words.

I can rephrase it if you like.

Golden Casket relative to the international confectionery market is a minnow in an ocean.

Mr Rae is also 'Mr Golden Casket', and heads up that confectionery 'minnow'-he is by definition, a 'wee self made business man'.
mortonjag 2007-06-30 17:08:42
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jun 30 2007, 04:59 PM) [snapback]297535[/snapback]
Sarcasm. Look it up. tongue.gif

Don't need to-the first comment was sarcastic-the second was a poor attempt at inappropriate irony.
mortonjag 2007-06-30 17:09:10
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jun 30 2007, 05:01 PM) [snapback]297537[/snapback]
Another reasonably normal thread is about to be hijacked by this odious tosser.

Then go for a bath.
mortonjag 2007-06-30 17:20:29
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 30 2007, 05:04 PM) [snapback]297538[/snapback]
No wonder Mick, you should read my post properly ffs, i will tell you this, i was brought up a protestant although i gave this up in early years as i cant stand any of it. I am called things when folk know im in the army etc and i shrug it off. But i can read through certain posts on here and i know what frame of mind certain folk on here have

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mortonjag 2007-06-30 17:24:46
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 30 2007, 05:18 PM) [snapback]297546[/snapback]
Is that from them Basqe mob

From what I've heard it's more like four nuts escaped from the locked ward at Dykebar and decided to have a 'day out'.

Anyway I gather they've all been apprehended.

Very amateurish effort-not exactly a 9-11!
mortonjag 2007-06-30 17:43:38
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jun 30 2007, 04:18 PM) [snapback]297516[/snapback]
Get him into the club in some capacity! He's a great guy, and i think he'd do wonders as a coach at youth level, even heading up our youth development programme. Don't think we've had a Youth Development Manager since Joe McLaughlin left, so maybe this would be another thing off Jim's mind to let him focus on first team affairs???

That's an excellent idea, but if it's too expensive to run a youth development programme, it's not going to happen.
mortonjag 2007-06-30 17:46:47
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 30 2007, 05:26 PM) [snapback]297553[/snapback]
It's a sign of the times when people can actually sit and rate a terrorist attack laugh.gif

It sure is Sir, and also puts the drunken Orange b*****d fest into some kind of perspective!
mortonjag 2007-06-30 18:23:14
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Jun 30 2007, 06:06 PM) [snapback]297573[/snapback]
How can someone lose something they've never had????? laugh.gif tongue.gif
On the strips, think it`ll take a bit of getting used to the wide neck on the away strip, but mibies Buckta knew there were some folk wi extra large noggins- or egos- supporting the Ton... laugh.gif

Big badges???HHHMMMmmmmmmm like it all, I do...oh i do......but I dont think nike could have come up with anything close to these efforts....Buckta...you done good.....thanks....

Just as long as it's not too wide Vader, or some folk will expose the chips on their shoulders.

BTW there is no INTENT to offend.
mortonjag 2007-06-30 18:25:49
QUOTE(GMC @ Jun 30 2007, 06:17 PM) [snapback]297579[/snapback]
mortonjag in talking s***e shocker laugh.gif

I've seen Grindlay play, AND all the comments on P & B-you select one in a puerile attempt to discredit me, and in so doing make an arse of yourself yet again.
mortonjag 2007-06-30 18:29:17
QUOTE(GMC @ Jun 30 2007, 06:10 PM) [snapback]297576[/snapback]
It all depends if he's going to be number 1 from the very start. I'd be pretty pissed off if I was Dave McGurn and was being told I would be 2nd choice behind some guy who's been playing with Dumbarton since 2001.

Seems you're 'pretty pissed off' quite a lot.

Grindlay and McGurn can both cut it at Division 1 level-I believe that, and so obviously does JM. I've never accused him of signing 'bad' players.
mortonjag 2007-07-01 04:34:44
QUOTE(steveoath @ Jun 30 2007, 06:59 PM) [snapback]297594[/snapback]
Hawke for youth development would be great. If the funds are there for it.

Does Warren have coaching badges?

Steve

Is that a prerequisite Steve-he's certainly got football knowledge, personality, common sense, and intelligence.
mortonjag 2007-07-01 04:36:37
QUOTE(GMC @ Jun 30 2007, 06:39 PM) [snapback]297589[/snapback]
I've seen Grindlay play too, doesn't mean I know more than the Dumbarton fans who have watched him for years.

There's more than 1 Sons fan saying he's prone to mistakes, quiet, and not commanding of his area.
Notice none of them are saying he's an excellent keeper, the majority seem to say 'decent' which for me doesn't sound convincing considering the league he was playing in. I'm happy to be proved wrong - we'll just need to wait and see.

Agreed! smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-01 04:49:52 I think that's harsh.
I said at the time if we didn't get them , why did the chairman mention their names . He is guilty of raising fans expectations as to the quality and experience of those players to come in . DDFR knew that all the players to come in wouldn't be from the top drawer , I think he should have expressed this (Chrissiboi)

If anything he's guilty of being an optimist, surely that's a good thing? In the same position I'd be optimistic that the likes of Sutton and Mensing could be brought to Cappielow.

If anything I'm glad we dodged Sutton, the guy's a mercenary.

No offence to them but in terms of the bigger picture who the fck are John Sutton and Simon Mensing?

In a couple of seasons time these guys won't be anywhere near good enough to get into the first team at Cappielow.

And you can bookmark that wink.gif (Cawston)



I was on the 'phone to my brother last night-he's Ton through and through, and we go to every match home and away, but because of a very demanding schedule he's had little time to keep up with the 'closed season' gossip.

Just to put the picture straight, he's an accountant, and runs a well known Glasgow Institution with an annual turnover of multi millions. He's always been very sympathetic to Douglas Rae, and normally hates to hear me criticise him.

When I told him about the Grindlay signing, he paused and said this.

'What I don't understand is why Douglas Rae's been making such a big issue of having TRIED AND FAILED to get players of proven calibre'.

Like many, he's beginning to suspect that the reason for non-arrivals at Scapa may be down to more than just money.

Mortonjag's brother, unlike Mortonjag, is HIGHLY RESPECTED for his opinions.
mortonjag 2007-07-01 05:01:41
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jun 30 2007, 10:39 PM) [snapback]297764[/snapback]
pish is the posts that i read and think 'aw for fux sake!!' laugh.gif

Beautifully put Blue-and you've raised yourself in my estimation.

For certain other posters 'Pish' means that they think they know better, and that I shouldn't even be allowed to post! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-01 05:03:47
QUOTE(tontastic @ Jun 30 2007, 10:48 PM) [snapback]297778[/snapback]
Tomorrow night is the start of it. In the interim time, if anyone want to buy one of the remaining photograph books from last season or dvds then please do so between now and then.

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mortonjag 2007-07-01 05:06:15
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jun 30 2007, 10:29 PM) [snapback]297754[/snapback]
aye ah saw that PT. bit of a shame think the millions takes the look off the top. like the name sewn onto the back though

EXPLAIN PLEASE
mortonjag 2007-07-01 05:13:49
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 30 2007, 06:22 PM) [snapback]297581[/snapback]
i'm not superstitious, but i am a wee bit compulsive about numbers and symmetry.

...always wears a no 7 vest.
mortonjag 2007-07-01 05:18:34
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 30 2007, 08:07 PM) [snapback]297636[/snapback]
Another who suffers from the Scottish cringe

INDEED CLAYMORE C*CK-every time you post I understand MANY of us both suffer and cringe.
mortonjag 2007-07-01 05:21:11
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 30 2007, 09:39 PM) [snapback]297676[/snapback]
"Loves" the Queen laugh.gif

Salmond is a very intelligent man. An independent Scotland won't have these parasites as head of State. Trust me wink.gif

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So was Hitler.
mortonjag 2007-07-01 05:24:30
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 30 2007, 10:08 PM) [snapback]297716[/snapback]
Im a Monarchist, and i support the SNP, what does that make me

Liable to the wrath of the great

HAGGIS HEID
mortonjag 2007-07-01 05:30:06
QUOTE(HamCam @ Jun 30 2007, 07:08 PM) [snapback]297601[/snapback]
Thankfully living on the east religion is not such an important issue.

Having grown up in the west I just accepted it was the norm then I realised the world did not end at Glasgow.

Both my kids go to a non-denominational school. Part of their education involves learning about all religions. Visited churches, chapels, mosque, synagogue etc and met folk of all faiths.

Integration, understanding and a respect for others seems to me to be the way forward not the continuation of the religious divide.

Curiously my brother does not agree and insists his kids go to the local Catholic school.

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mortonjag 2007-07-01 05:38:50
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 30 2007, 11:54 PM) [snapback]297884[/snapback]
Could he sue for defamation of character ?
As he was clearly tarnished by the remarks he had been accused of .
Why would the board not consider looking at this DVD they had in their possession . I find this really strange ?
I think the supporters of Clyde should be asking serious questions about those who made this decision .

It's a bit like the ongoing Megrahi situation IMO.

The Tribunal have found in Roberts' favour, so 'everybody' now assumes he's innocent, just like 'everybody' thought Megrahi was guilty before the SSCRC finding last week. Now 'everybody' thinks he's innocent, but final decisions have to be made yet.

IF Roberts is 'white as the driven snow' here, I hope he takes them to the cleaners. If he's had a fortunate decision go his way in a complicated wrangle, he'd be best to 'cut and run'.
mortonjag 2007-07-01 06:06:49 I've just read this thread, and one thing's for sure, it generates more passion than the Shoogly Show, and that's saying something!

On one side we have 'extremists' like Barbarossa who IMHO echo the natural sentiments of most, albeit in flowery language-on the other sit the 'mature' Sick Mick with his idealistic mentor CHC.

It's fine to theorise folks. Let's rephrase the question-if the person you loved most in the whole world had been killed yesterday as a result of this action, what would you do?

...And before Holy Willie and his 'mature' stripling point out the error of my morality-I don't give a f*ck.

I'd put out the flames asap, and then publicly torture those c***s to within an inch of death before mincing them up alive for dog food. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-01 06:22:45
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 1 2007, 01:29 AM) [snapback]297971[/snapback]
All Muslim terrorists should be strung up, flogged, castrated and burned alive; that should teach them not to attack rational, peace-loving people!

When you grow up to be a big boy-MAN even-Mick my child, you may look back on some of your posts with a mixture of admiration and embarrassment.

Why do you imagine yourself to be more intelligent, more wise, and more experienced than posters twice and three times your age?

I, for one, don't need jumped up brats to lecture me about the morality and psyche of terrorism.

I'd edit your sentence as follows.

In the interests of humanity ALL terrorists of any persuasion should be summarily executed by mutual international treaty.

I'm absolutely certain, the Nations of the world will be falling over each other to reach that signature sheet! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-01 06:33:22
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jul 1 2007, 02:19 AM) [snapback]298036[/snapback]
I vote for whoever the Bruce votes for, given his MASSIVE experience with bawbags I don't see how he could be wrong.

Obviously I'd vote for myself-just to get it in first-then

CLAYMORE C*CK


I once described your goodself as the definitive scrotum Cawston, but on reflection that man puts your little sack to shame!
mortonjag 2007-07-01 06:48:49 This is true.

My niece was a Junior House Officer in Glasgow Royal about five years ago, when Al Megrahi (still in Barlinnie at the time) was brought in with abdominal pain. He was handcuffed and an armed police officer literally held a gun at the ready at all times. My niece asked if the handcuffs could be removed, and they refused, so she called her consultant. He simply said-'If you want me to examine Mr Megrahi properly you'll have to remove the handcuffs, and both wait outside the consulting room'. At first they refused, until he pointed out that he had a rsponsibility to treat the patient, and if they prevented him from doing it properly-THEY would be culpable.

Interestingly Megrahi has just had a very favourable finding from the SCCRC this week.

As DE correctly pointed out Doctors are just doctors-not Polis, not Judges, and thankfully not Sick Mick.

They ARE devoted to doing their work properly. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-01 06:57:16
BAN FIREWORKS



mortonjag 2007-07-01 07:23:14 Chief Constable Vacancy, £161,178

Strathclyde Joint Police Board is inviting applications for the post of Chief Constable following the announcement by Sir Willie Rae of his intended retirement in October 2007.

Applications are invited from officers qualified in terms of the Police (Scotland) Regulations. The appointment will be for a fixed term to be negotiated but within the range of four to seven years. It is subject to the requirements of the Police (Scotland) Regulations, a satisfactory medical examination, and the approval by Scottish Ministers.

The closing date for completed applications is 13 July 2007. Short-listing will take place on 29 August 2007 and interviews will be held on 13 and 14 September 2007. unsure.gif

The only reason I'm posting is that last night just as I was about to go out for the weekly Ruby Murray, I heard something about a police public announcement on the Airport incident.

Some polis spokesman-obviously reading from notes, made an embarrassingly garbled and frequently hesitating monologue, saying in about ten minutes what could have been said in one. The whole thing was in polis gobbledeegook, and he even managed twice to describe Pishley's Hospital as the Royal ALEXANDRIA!

I felt a bit sorry for him-he obviously wasn't quite up to the task in hand-'They should have interviewed somebody more experienced', I said to my partner.

She looked puzzled and replied-'That's Sir William Rae'. wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-01 08:55:06
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jul 1 2007, 08:41 AM) [snapback]298095[/snapback]
After what i was involved in yesterday, im sorry but i have developed a slight racist undertone..

and who can blame me

I certainly don't Flight-it's always the same on those forums-those who have experience and those who live in fairy land foisting their ideology on others. All I'd add is that TERRORISM per se is evil, irrespective of whether it's a Muslim, and IRA member, or a Basque.
mortonjag 2007-07-01 09:24:03
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jul 1 2007, 09:17 AM) [snapback]298098[/snapback]
'On a drunken saturday night like tonight there will be mosque windows getting panned somewhere and there will be many sore faces given to Kebab Shoppies and Taxi Touts this evening as a result of this failed attrocity. I wouldn't ever get involved in such a thing, regardless of how pished I got. Thats just stupid.

But it highlights other issues, what has happened to our country in recent years and who are all these strangers that have washed upon our shores?
If you ask this question - youre a racist. If you dont like the answer - youre a racist. We are forced to accept that our country is a multicultural free-for-all and every Romanian beggar and False-passport Faisal is suddenly equal to a born-and-raised indigenous taxpayer. If you dont like that - youre racist.

The Seikhs and Hindus never cause hassle, neither do the Chinese or other orientals, or the Jews. Why do the Muslims want to harm us so much?'

I wonder hiw many incidents there was. its a shame that most of these guys have f*** all to
to do with this carry on
but no doubt there will be bother. If i was a foreigner id stay tucked up 2nite in front of the tele just to be safe

That's very true, but I've yet to see any evidence of the huge 'decent' Muslim population enforcing their 'Britishness' and openly condemning those scumbags.


WHY?
mortonjag 2007-07-01 09:34:55
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jul 1 2007, 09:18 AM) [snapback]298099[/snapback]
Agreed....

I served many years ago with a bomb disposal unit based Chelsea barracks in London early nineties and seen many things,

But yesterday was a shock, i was only in doing a 4 hour shift to help people go on holiday on time and ended up there till this morning.

I will now admit to being very suspicious and i am now more vigilant than ever.

I am also a racist, which saddens me as i always defended the innocent coloured people who get caught up in there countrymens terror war

A sad day in my life.... i thought i would not go that way

On a slightly lighter note I couldn't help laughing at the usual 'cop out' from the polis (no pun) and politicians.

THE PUBLIC MUST BE MORE VIGILANT!!!!!!!!!

Just imagine if I had 'phoned Pishley Polis yesterday at 3 p.m. and told them I'd seen two Asian gentleman in a 4 x4 a mile from the Airport-sitting in a layby and continually checking their watches and mobile 'phones.

'Oh is that right Sir-lots of Asian gentlemen go on holiday at Glasgow Airport-but please give us your name and address and we'll pass it on to the Race Discrimination Board'. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-01 09:50:57 It never ceases to surprise me how much apparent ideology is thumped out on those forums by folk with little life experience. Flight Ton could be a dead man this morning. That's a simple fact and it brings the issue of immigration closer to home.

While having no axe to grind with any individual, it's been apparent to me for many a long year that Britain has become a'dumping ground' for all sorts of immigrants and asylum seekers, and I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S DONE US ONE BIT OF GOOD.

What should those in power be doing about it?
mortonjag 2007-07-01 09:58:49
QUOTE(HamCam @ Jul 1 2007, 09:43 AM) [snapback]298108[/snapback]
Aye you or is it me ?

At a time of such concern your concern is about how insignificant we are to those c***s down south.

I agree Vader was a little flowery in language HamCam, but I believe he makes a valid point, and I'm no Nationalist. The 'Home Counties' English lot are a bit self obsessed-Glasgow is Britain's third largest city, and they were more interested in that annual wash out at Wombledon.
mortonjag 2007-07-01 10:19:25
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jul 1 2007, 10:08 AM) [snapback]298112[/snapback]
How could anyone ever claim to know better that you ??? Surely you are the font of all Ton knowledge mortonjag, and all should understand and accept that - how dare these pip squeeks have the bare faced cheek to suggest otherwise. wink.gif

You're getting there slowly Mack. BTW it's

PIPSQUEAK!



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mortonjag 2007-07-01 10:58:38
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jul 1 2007, 10:34 AM) [snapback]298119[/snapback]
Mortonjag's poll that only offers choices to limit immigration either inferring that immigration policy is the root of all evil or that he is trying to seek some sort of racist reaction in the heat of the moment and most likely ignoring the real facts..

Mortonjag's carefully designed and ultra scientific poll my Dear Ratarse, has a fourth option for which nobody has yet voted. I have no hidden agenda-facts are facts, and opinions are opinions. Furthermore, I doubt if any South London policeman (who might very well be black) would agree with everything you've just said. Every cultural group has it's bad people, and sometimes in unwelcome concentration.
mortonjag 2007-07-01 11:01:52
QUOTE(stuart @ Jul 1 2007, 10:39 AM) [snapback]298120[/snapback]
Welcome more immigrants in. I don't care where in the world people come from and most of the crimes and murders in this country are committed by people who are indigenous to this country as someone above pointed out.

Immigrants do the economy of this country the world of good and I welcome the cultural diversity they bring to this country.

Some do-agreed, but in general that statement is arrant nonsense.
mortonjag 2007-07-01 11:07:57
QUOTE(Benin Dahomey @ Jul 1 2007, 11:04 AM) [snapback]298127[/snapback]
other, the more the merrier.

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Brevity is the soul of wit, and I WON'T ask you to expand! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-01 11:13:19
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 1 2007, 11:08 AM) [snapback]298131[/snapback]
You have your opinion we have ours.
I have no problem with ANY ethnic minority and do not condone anyone taking their frustration out on them as a result.
I am talking about TERRORISTS, you say their mission is accomplished, it is no-where near that stage, this is only the beginning.

My family at this time are sitting in Stansted airport terrified but they want to be here in France to mark a passing, that is mission accomplished for the terrorists, striking fear into peoples hearts.
Are we supposed to congratulate them for a job well done but have no hatred for the fundamentalists who are doing this.
f*** them. Hang them, I don't care if they become martyrs to their followers, I want these types off the face of the planet so my future generations don't live in fear. As far as I am concerned they not humans, they are in-human.

We are effectively at war, a new kind of war and some people would be better wising up to the fact that what happened with the IRA will pale into insignificance if the terrorists escalate their goal.

That's a very good analogy. Just as the 'decent' Irish people sat back and generally did nothing about the IRA, the 'decent' Muslims appear to be VERY quiet on this issue-yet they are vociferous in insisting they are British.
mortonjag 2007-07-01 11:17:39
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jul 1 2007, 10:24 AM) [snapback]298115[/snapback]
not at all mate. i'd never say that i know better than anyone, just that my opinion differs.
I see you've found out how to enlarge text and change the colour wink.gif

THAT'S A FACT!
mortonjag 2007-07-01 11:22:04
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 1 2007, 11:15 AM) [snapback]298139[/snapback]
sounds like arrant nonsense to me. what's your source?

My source for what Dear Trumpet, or are you just being a knotty boy again? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-01 11:23:34
QUOTE(Mastodon @ Jul 1 2007, 11:16 AM) [snapback]298141[/snapback]
Robert, you're a rabid racist whose views have no place in a civilised Scotland in the year 2007.

who is this

ROBERT RABID RACIST?
mortonjag 2007-07-01 11:27:51
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 1 2007, 11:24 AM) [snapback]298151[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2007-07-01 11:29:51
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 1 2007, 11:22 AM) [snapback]298146[/snapback]
that's a shame. i've been going to fopp since they only had the one shop, nearly 20 years ago. think it was on renfield street.

looks like they've paid the price for expanding beyond their means.

Article in today's paper says they started as a second hand Record shop in De Courcy's Arcade.
mortonjag 2007-07-01 11:48:34
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 1 2007, 11:32 AM) [snapback]298156[/snapback]
your source in support of your assertion that "the 'decent' Muslims appear to be VERY quiet on this issue-yet they are vociferous in insisting they are British."

Why should I require to provide a 'source' for something which is apparent to me-I am clearly stating an opinion, as also in my second comment.

Opinions based on a wide exposure to Muslim communities over a large number of years, mind you.

Where is YOUR SOURCE to the contrary, or WERE you just being a knotty boy? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-01 12:04:20
QUOTE(stuart @ Jul 1 2007, 11:47 AM) [snapback]298173[/snapback]
How would you knowit was the Muslim shop owners in Greenock that did the bombings?

Would you have done the same to Catholics (or Irish if all the IRA bombers weren't Catholics - no offence and all that if they weren't) if any of your family had been killed in the IRA bombings?

Stuart-Willow's being a bit extreme to illustrate a point-ideology goes for sweet f*ck all if your loved ones are killed indiscriminately.

In the second World War thousands of perfectly 'decent' Italian families in this country were persecuted by equally 'decent' Brits when Italy joined Hitler.

And YES, if my daughter had been killed yesterday at Glasgow Airport, I'd be tempted to wreak havoc here-and you know something-I'd only have to fling a bomb into my local Lidl's because at any given time a majority of shoppers ain't exactly wearing kilts.

The fact is that most of the posters on here-even the more experienced ones, would have their eyes opened if they lived within a half mile radius of what used to be called the Newlands Safeway.

It's just a bloody 'take over'-the majority don't or won't speak English-they don't understand our customs and courtesies-FFS the Big Issue seller at the Co's even been replaced by a middle aged Romanian woman who pushes as aggressively as f*ck AND gets off with it.

I'm beginning to sound like a racist-well I'm not-integration's one thing-foisting yourself on people's another, and terrorism's the most extreme example of it.

Enoch Powell was not all bad.
mortonjag 2007-07-01 12:12:28
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 1 2007, 12:04 PM) [snapback]298192[/snapback]
ah ok, it was just an opinion, and not based on any contemporary evidence

Based on plenty of evidence-contemporary and historical Trumpet-if you pushed me hard enough I could dig out some article somewhere if you want somebody else's OPINION in black and white!!! rolleyes.gif

You seem obsessed with 'sources'. Would you, in future, like to quote 'sources' to back all of your opinions? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-01 12:18:01
QUOTE(stuart @ Jul 1 2007, 11:36 AM) [snapback]298160[/snapback]
Yeah - I am outraged by yesterday's events but repariating all Muslims as you seem to wish for would ensure that there werea lot more bombings sent our way.

White working class men commit a lot more violent crime in this country than Muslims
so what do you intend doing about this?

That's as obvious as stating the Pope's a Catholic.

NOT in Govanhill they don't, and NOT in Streatham-stop being a f*cking prat.
mortonjag 2007-07-01 12:19:57
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jul 1 2007, 12:05 PM) [snapback]298193[/snapback]
This is all a bunch of sensationalist nonsence. The vast majority of immigrants in this country cause few problems. Still I voted option 3, although i thought this before yesterday. We shouldn't be giving immigrants a free pass to live of the buroo. Although this will only affect a very small minority.

RLY-I hate to do this to you, but statistics please. Ten years ago possibly 'yes'.
mortonjag 2007-07-01 12:35:14
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jul 1 2007, 12:20 PM) [snapback]298202[/snapback]
Scotland needs immigrants for our workforce.

There are not enough builders, doctors, bus drivers etc.

Most Scottish people work in the service sector - call centres, finance, banks - well in the central belt at any rate.
A huge gap is being filled in the form of labourers, tradesman and bus drivers coming from Poland, Hugary etc.

There is also a lot of Doctors who have come from India to fill a gap in the workforce there.

As for the airport incident - early indications are that these could be British citizens, or people who have been here a long time at any rate. House in houston, Jeep Cherokee... hardly your average
bogus asylum seeker.

The real world seen through the eyes of a 22 year old who reads much and has experienced very little.

So lots of doctors are flocking here from India to 'fill a gap in the workforce'-WHY would that be, do you imagine-and incidentally they do NOT do the job nearly as well as British trained doctors (including those of Asian ethnicity). Competition for places at Medical School here is as fierce as ever so WHY do we not have enough home trained staff?

I await all the little experts to tell me I'm wrong-sorry kiddywinks-they may be 'Doctors' but they can't do the job here any better than I could in Dheli.

Poles filling a gap-aye right-Poles willing to work for far less and happily be 'exploited'-WHY?

Bus drivers-paid a reasonable wage those days-wasn't aware of a huge labour gap there.

Immigration and integration are healthy when they are gradual and acceptable to the indigent population-otherwise they are counter productive IMO.
mortonjag 2007-07-01 12:45:41
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 1 2007, 12:20 PM) [snapback]298201[/snapback]
like i said, i didn't realise you were quoting your opinion. it sounded like you were commenting on news - or absence of news - on the muslim community's reaction to recent events.

FWIW, here's the response from the Muslim Council of Britain: http://www.mcb.org.uk/article_detail.php?a...nnouncement-655

What did you expect them to say-ACTIONS speak louder than words. The Old Firm have said lots of things about getting rid of bigotry! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-01 14:44:24
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 1 2007, 01:16 PM) [snapback]298235[/snapback]
I hope your feelings of anger towards everyone of an Asian persuasion eases with time . Or the terrorists win another battle .
These animals want you and everyone else to be prejudice towards everyone of the Muslim faith . They hate the tolerance we show towards their people .
Glad you are OK .

You may be right Chrissiboi, but that seems a strange perception to me-I think they simply see this as a 'Christian' country.
mortonjag 2007-07-01 14:52:28
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 1 2007, 12:46 PM) [snapback]298220[/snapback]
I think you're wrong about Govanhill. The latest statistics (sorry but I work in Govanhill and colleagues refer to them) that I've seen show that the majority of crime is committed by white youths. That being said, the Govanhill demographic has changed dramatically over the last 18 months with the influx of Slovakian Roma. This has caused significant tensions on all sides. Street gang fights can now involve whites and punjabis in combined attacks on the Roma. The majority of the muslim community in Govanhill are law abiding and the same can be said about the white community. Problems, however, are being caused by significant minorities on all sides.

DE I know you work there, and I live a mile up the road. I was basing my comments not only on observation, but on regular discussions with a 'Pakistani' boy who lives there and is a colleague of my partner. What's the ratio of Asian to'working class whites' in Govanhill anyway?

Your latter comments are what I've observed too!
mortonjag 2007-07-01 14:55:36
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jul 1 2007, 12:45 PM) [snapback]298216[/snapback]
Settle down ya madman.

I only said 'tempted'!
mortonjag 2007-07-01 14:57:32
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 1 2007, 02:03 PM) [snapback]298261[/snapback]
man. you're a right-wing loonball but i expect better from you than that. there are no doubt some fandans elsewhere saying shaitan triumphed over good yesterday.

this is what happened in the states. the neocon f***wits painted it as a holy war and bullied congress into allowing them to invade iraq. 'everything's changed' etc. that was a feckin good move, eh?

a couple of arseholes who'd obviously have trouble running a menodge manage to set themselves on fire and crash their car into an airport door and some of you are practically calling for the next crusade from underneath your continental quilts. get a grip of yourselves and see if you can find your balls under there next to your teddy bears.

Neville Chamberlain lives!
mortonjag 2007-07-01 15:04:53
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 1 2007, 12:47 PM) [snapback]298223[/snapback]
Possibly the worst joke I've ever seen on those site blink.gif

You really are a sad wee prat.

Anyway it was obviously a joke-anybody who knows anything would have spotted a fake Sikh name.
mortonjag 2007-07-01 15:06:10
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 1 2007, 12:47 PM) [snapback]298223[/snapback]
Possibly the worst joke I've ever seen on those site blink.gif

You really are a sad wee prat.

Anyway it was obviously a joke-anybody who knows anything would have spotted a fake Sikh name.
mortonjag 2007-07-01 15:13:25
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 1 2007, 02:24 PM) [snapback]298279[/snapback]
dearie me.

anyway, of course they should treat the stupid c***. they treat drunken diddies who beat the crap out their wives, so why not simpletons with matches?

i'd use pigskin for the grafts, though. that would give me a bit of a chuckle.

You ARE evil! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-01 15:43:37
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 1 2007, 01:14 PM) [snapback]298233[/snapback]
Superb post. I concur. The recent influx of immigrants to Ireland and expanding our multi cultural experience has been enlightening and I for one think it's a very positive thing. Said it before, I'll say it again - 95% of ALL races are the salt of the earth, and every race has ~5% wankers.

What surprises me is the number of people on this board who have surprised me in the last 24 hours.

I've learned a lot.

TonInDublin

TiD, I seem to recall that you get pretty heated when folk talk pish about Ireland-and quite rightly so.

If the recent influx of immigrants there has expanded and enlightened your multi cultural experience in a positive way-if that is indeed the concensus of opinion-well done to all.

I've said elsewhere that immigration/integration at a pace and in a manner acceptable to the 'natives', is normally beneficial to a culture and economy.

I'd invite you to come and spend a week here-by here I mean where I live. You'd have to be very blind, deaf, and stubborn not to at least admit that you can only compare like with like.
It's well nigh a 'take over'-not a traditional 'ghetto'-a literal 'take over'-and this is not a 'natural distribution' either. Most of those people have been decanted into this area specifically because of available housing in two huge multi storey blocks-that in an area which was already heavily (but more naturally) multi cultural.

There is no evidence of much trouble, but resentment is growing among folk who have lived here for years, and those include Sikhs, Muslims, Hindus, Chinese and so on.

As I said, best not to make sweeping generalisations.
mortonjag 2007-07-01 15:47:15
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Jul 1 2007, 01:28 PM) [snapback]298240[/snapback]
1. Islam is a religion not a race
2. As far as I'm aware most Asians follow other creeds, Islam is more commonly found in arabic (middle-east) countries
3. As far as I'm aware all our terrorist attacks in the last few years have been carried out by people born in the UK
4. Should we have encouraged Irish families to leave during the troubles?

As for MJ's poll, by only offering one 'other' option the poll is completely biased. This is a serious issue and needs serious consideration, not knee jerk over-reaction as outlined in your answers MJ. I sorry to say but personally I have to say that a simple blanket ban on immigration has to be the most idiotic suggestion / statement you have ever posted.

dry.gif ScotinBelgie

As somebody else suggested, if you don't like it do one of your own. Any poll is only a reflection of opinion of those who voluntarily choose to vote.

The knee jerk overreaction may very well be yours.
mortonjag 2007-07-01 15:58:36
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jul 1 2007, 03:50 PM) [snapback]298332[/snapback]
Perhaps having just one poll that reflected opinions across the spectrum as opposed to a poll geared towards a knee jerk reaction. Or we can all do our own wee stupid poll and then argue the statistics. The questions in the poll are not balanced and allow only for an answer that will cause some controversy.

The whole f*cking thing's controversial-hadn't you noticed-let's have your suggestions and those of Scotty (safely tucked away in Belgium).

Easy to be critical-I was genuinely trying to suss opinion, and I DID include 'other' inviting discussion.
mortonjag 2007-07-01 16:11:06
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 1 2007, 04:03 PM) [snapback]298341[/snapback]
When you say it's changed and is totally different, in what way Arkle ? Not fishing or being controversial, genuinely interested cos I don't know the area myself.

TonInDublin

Nor do you know the area in which I live TiD!
mortonjag 2007-07-01 16:17:10
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 1 2007, 03:52 PM) [snapback]298334[/snapback]
You really are a rambling old goat at times MJ. I never once mentioned Scotland, nor did I comment on what Scotland should or shouldn't do. Don't live there so it's f*** all to do with me.

Summary of my post ..........

The Irish experience of immigration and exposure to different cultures has on the whole been positive.

The ability to be a wanker is not defined by race, but by individual, and the overwhelming majority of people in all races are good eggs.

I have learned a lot about people I thought I knew well on this board in the last 24 hours. It's now clear to me that some are, and probably were all along, borderline racists.

What's to confuse in that post ???? Jesus man, if you dropped your hands from your keyboard onto your kn** just once a day you'd probably be less burdened by pent up frustrations - in any country.

TonInDublin

Correction TiD-your post was a congratulatory agreement with Stuart, who welcomed unqualified immigration into 'this country'.

I took that to be Scotland, and specifically Glasgow and the West of Scotland.

I didn't disagree with, or take exception to the factual information you provided-merely the inappropriate correlation.

..and I didn't call you a 'rambling old goat' either! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-01 16:27:13
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 1 2007, 04:01 PM) [snapback]298340[/snapback]
I think that if yesterday's incident was going to change my opinion on anything, I'd need to know the origin of the two attackers. Certainly in England (with 7/7 and all) it was often British-born people committing the atrocities. In this sense, without the aid of a time machine, simply halting immigration wouldn't do much. The problem is bigger than simply immigration.

On the subject of multiculturalism, I did (and do) think that it can be a force for good, but there's a political scientist whose findings I tend to find quite enlightening who has found otherwise:

(The article is pay-per-view but there's some info here: http://fallbackbelmont.blogspot.com/2006/1...decline-of.html ). Granted, the findings - like quite a lot of Putnam's work, in fact - are actually quite narrow and cannot be read in isolation but rather as part of greater sociological trends, so it's not quite Rivers of Blood made flesh. But still, it's something to think about.

In terms of immigration in general, I think since the dawn of modernity a few hundred years ago, each and every generation has had pretty much this exact same discussion. In a globalised economy, we cannot simply seal ourselves off like feudal Japan, nor should we. As TiD intimates, an awful lot of the story of immigration has in fact been beneficial to western societies economically, culturally and indeed gastronomically ph34r.gif laugh.gif

My ideal solution is to get rid of most benefits not only for immigrants but for all, and this would in turn decrease the (already small - I think people overestimate this) number of people coming here to "sponge", because there would simply be little incentive to do so. But that's a different topic of discussion to one of trust and security.

You're getting much, much closer to what upsets MANY Glaswegians here Nach0. Even the good folks of Inverclyde haven't a clue what some of us are talking about.

In general I welcome cultural diversity within integrated and functional society-that is NOT what is apparent in many areas of the City. As I have stated elsewhere some of the greatest resentment is found among 'immigrants' who HAVE established their 'Scottishness'.

It's ironic that I'm effectively branded a 'racist', for agreeing with Peter and Chim who came here from Hong Kong in the 30's.
mortonjag 2007-07-01 16:30:08
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jul 1 2007, 03:56 PM) [snapback]298337[/snapback]
The police reckon its all linked to the start of a religous holiday
RAM - A - VAN

..and after the dunt the poor c*nt jumped out and cried


MUSTAPHA PHAG
mortonjag 2007-07-01 16:39:16
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jul 1 2007, 04:20 PM) [snapback]298349[/snapback]
Yes but I'm not the one trying to stir up s*** by raising questions on immigration and casting shadow over an entire race and religion because of a couple of nutters. Of course it is a big deal and of course we all know they wanted to kill folk, it's awful but the fact still remains that the best way to beat these guys is to show a united front. That we don't blame law abiding Muslims living in Scotland and that the division between cultures is not widened any further. The terrorists are there trying to incite a race war and create division. MJ, you seem to be doing your best to help them with stupid polls like this. And you accuse others of not living in the real world.

I am not attempting to 'stir sh*t' or to 'help those who are trying to incite a race war and create division'.

I don't have a 'hidden agenda', and I could provide you with incontrovertible evidence of my experience of the 'real world' including an introduction to my many friends and colleagues from different cultural backgrounds.

What is your agenda?
mortonjag 2007-07-01 16:40:08
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 1 2007, 04:20 PM) [snapback]298350[/snapback]
Christ on a bike.

I give in.
MJ, I agree with you. Even if you change your mind half way through your inane ramblings, I still agree with you.

Sorted

TonInDublin

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mortonjag 2007-07-01 16:49:58
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 1 2007, 04:33 PM) [snapback]298358[/snapback]
I've worked in the area as a consultant Architect for over 20 years and as an in-house Project Manager / Development Officer for the past 7. I think there was an upward curve of improvement since the advent of the Housing Scotland Act in 1974 which enabled communities to take part in Housing regeneration, particularly through membership of the community controlled Housing Association. The privatisation agenda of the Blair Government together with their cronies in the Cooncil and Scottish Executive who have dropped the use of statutory powers (such as Action Areas and Compulsory Purchase Orders) has halted, if not reversed the process of improvement. Increasing addiction problems have changed the place drastically. The most traumatic change, however has occured in the past 18 months or so with the 'dumping' of desperately poor East Europeans in an area that was already highly pressured.

Much to the displeasure of the'locals'-a large proportion of whom are of Pakistani ethnicity.

The same thing has happened a mile or so South. The area around Shawlands Cross was a reasonably thriving multiculture-arguably with a better 'mix' than Govanhill until five or six years ago. Fine for our highly principled posters to theorise from their ivory towers as they throw bricks on phantom 'racists' who are in fact ordinary folk making observations on real life.
mortonjag 2007-07-01 16:53:34
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Jul 1 2007, 04:44 PM) [snapback]298367[/snapback]
There was a sense of Community. It was the kind of "multicultural" place that i could recognised as i stayed in a similar part of Glasgow about 3 miles away.

There was a large Muslim Asian community, a 2nd/3rd Generation Irish community and the indigenous folk. There was a small jewish population that assimilated themselves to the local folk, so you would never tell the difference. Everyone seemed to live side by side, people knew each other and there were never big issues. It was home for all of them. Business was booming.

I recall around the turn of the millenium the Asian youths were all had an LA black thing going on, they all had wee Craig David beards and were loud, cheeky f***ers. Then you saw the occasional African, mostly asylum seekers, then there were loads of shifty characters from Ghana, Nigeria, Sierra Leone, the Local Asians seemed to have issues with asylum seekers and there were issues between Govanhill and Pollokshields Asians which was a territorial thing more than anything else. Then 9/11 happened back in 2001. The Pakistani community became withdrawn, more and more youngsters has massive beards and Allah seemed to have a grip on what they could/couldnt do. Then the floodgates opened and every itenerant drifter from Eastern Europe plops himself on the doorstep for £2 an hour.

What is a place without its people?

It isnt someone unique to Govanhill or Pollokshields, In Govan, parts of the old town centre around Shaw Street, Rathlin St etc. the dodgy looking youths drinking buckfast arent Shellsuit Bob types, but young Somalians with an attitude, and you dont know who the f*** anyone is anymore.

Correct Arky-there are probably a dozen areas of the City which are now pretty similar. It's funny how you can drive 25 miles down the road to Inverclyde, and folk just don't have a clue!
mortonjag 2007-07-01 16:57:23
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Jul 1 2007, 04:48 PM) [snapback]298368[/snapback]
OK MJ I give you that my reaction was a little over zealous. However, when the majoirty of options offered appear to be knee-jerk - a blanket ban on immigration or the deportation of non-citizens recieving government support no matter where they originate because of the actions of a few extrremists of one particular faith group - then I do believe I can be excused a little. As I said serious issues require serious discussion - and when immigration is directly linked to terrorism then you are either not taking the issue seriously or you are deliberately fanning the flames.

And why would you class living in Belgium as being safe - or would you have said Scotland was safe up until the other day! Would you have said Bali, or Paris or Madrid were safe in comparision. Is terrorism not a global issue or is it just down to the UK's immigration laws (which are in many ways stricter than Belgium's)? Or is this just an over simplification of the basic question behind your poll.

dry.gif ScotinBelgie

Immigration IS linked to terrorism Scotty Boy-if they weren't here they couldn't f*cking do it.

That doesn't mean I'm opposed to controlled and sensible immigration, and I voted for the first option.

OK I was having a 'dig' about Belgium-I know as much about it as you probably know about the Pollokshaws, Shawlands, Newlands area.
mortonjag 2007-07-01 17:00:58
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jul 1 2007, 04:58 PM) [snapback]298376[/snapback]
My agenda?

To live peacefuly and try and look at things objectively. Oh and do my best not to be a constant pain in the arse. You should try it some time.

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mortonjag 2007-07-01 17:05:11
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jul 1 2007, 04:28 PM) [snapback]298354[/snapback]
I wonder if the SNP will continue with their policy to introduce Muslim faith schools? Even leading Muslims are advising against it as it will further divide society, cause further suspicion and perhaps lead to more fundamentalism. It's about time that all faith schools are abolished and religion of all faiths is taught as part of the curriculum and not indoctrination. I know the SNP are chasing the muslim vote but they really should drop this one.

If I agree will you stop calling me names? sad.gif

Well I DO! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-01 17:08:11
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 1 2007, 04:51 PM) [snapback]298371[/snapback]
I tried to bring my kids up in the Marxist Faith.
I reckon Harpo talked more sense than any minister, priest, rabbi or mullah that I've heard. And Groucho must have been one of the greatest philosophers that ever lived. biggrin.gif

I fastidiously encouraged rabid xenophobia in all three of mine.

I knew they'd turn out quite normal.

Life's like that! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-01 17:16:39
QUOTE(Yoda @ Jul 1 2007, 04:04 PM) [snapback]298342[/snapback]
Some of the posts on here scare me quite a bit. There are a few sweeping generalisations and quite a few pointed comments. Another thread asks what we should do to prevent further attacks happening. The sad thing is we can't prevent it. The security forces have to be lucky all the time, terrorists only need to be lucky once.

But to encourage a generalisation over the entire Scottish community, that anyone the wrong side of beige is now either a threat as a bomber or has taken jobs or is claiming benefit that they are not entitled to is wrong. Many immigrants bring positive things to this Country. WE ARE MULTICULTURAL, whether we want it or not, and to adopt the Enoch Powell attitude of ship them all home is antiquated to say the least.

I do not advocate the attack yesterday, nor do I pretend to understand the reasons behind it, however I do think in an effort to get along with our neighbours we have to try to get to know them and not victimise by taking the actions of the few and applying it to the masses.

Good post Yoda, and I've got to know a fair number of my neighbours in an area of Glasgow which is arguably the most multicultural part of Scotland. I also have many old friends and acquaintances from different ethnic backgrounds.

Interestingly every one of them is opposed to fundamental Islam-that's what appears to have been in evidence yesterday, and it's abhorrent to ALL reasonable Scots, irrespective of background.

What does concern me is that several posters are trying to brush this back under a carpet of convenience. It is a genuine and growing threat-to be ignored at our peril.
mortonjag 2007-07-12 08:16:24 I suspect most are missing the point.

IF we'd signed the [right][/right]players we need already, everybody would have been quite happy with this additional news
mortonjag 2007-07-12 08:21:12
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 12 2007, 01:29 AM) [snapback]298522[/snapback]
Who's all planning to stay over at the AHMS forums?

Well, young Deegan, I managed almost 150 posts on the site and apart from a huffy Ton in Dublin taking one of them totally out of context, I was treated with total civility.

I'd suggest, with no disrespect to anyone, that this forum has more than its fair share of 'chip on shoulder' cyberweans! sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-12 08:25:38
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 11 2007, 09:50 PM) [snapback]298506[/snapback]

Too right, mortonjag.

They lead to sedition!!!

Look at that Guy Fawkes bloke.

laugh.gif laugh.gif


BAN SEDITION
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mortonjag 2007-07-12 08:30:29
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 12 2007, 03:56 AM) [snapback]298525[/snapback]
Have you heard about this, Geordie? Junkies are crouching between parked cars on Drumfrochar Road, then leaping out to be intentionally hit by passing cars. They can then apparently use the Motorists Insurers Bureau to claim back money somehow, generating drug spending money.

Mental.

Oh Dear.

What happened to good old fashioned theft-much quicker 'turn round' if you ask me?
mortonjag 2007-07-12 08:49:41
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jul 11 2007, 02:57 PM) [snapback]298472[/snapback]
May as well get the ball rolling.

Thoughts on this one? Anyone going? Lineup? Do we care...?

I'm definitely going-looking forward to the drive and hopefully some nice weather.

I just can't wait to see some live football again, and to see how we look, even with the disappointing lack of additions.

Both goalies will probably get a shot.

I'd be trying Finlayson or Walker at right back, and Scott McLaughlin at left back.

I'd definitely have Spoonsy up front where he belongs-probably alongside Sanny with Linn available to change things around.

McAnespie at left mid, and I guess that leaves Midge, Jamie, and Jimbo (played right or on the bench).

Laurel and Hardy as usual.

Robinson

Finlayson Greacen Harding McLaughlin

McAlister Stevenson McAnespie

Millar Templeman Weatherson


Just a thought, with umpteen possible combinations, and no limit on substitutions!


mortonjag 2007-07-12 08:52:52
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jul 12 2007, 08:35 AM) [snapback]298531[/snapback]
John Anderson and Hagi weren't even Juniors - they were playing for local amateur teams. They seem to have done OK in their careers.

Alan McGraw had only played junior football, and was serving in the forces when signed!
mortonjag 2007-07-12 09:14:02
QUOTE(dazza @ Jul 12 2007, 08:58 AM) [snapback]298541[/snapback]
IT wa rubbish! Went over uite a few times but it was dead. P&B Was better


P & B's fine in general-AHMS was brilliant for serious Morton stuff-and appeared FAR MORE MATURE than this site! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-12 16:21:09
QUOTE(Albert Hotel Morton Supporters @ Jul 12 2007, 09:33 AM) [snapback]298546[/snapback]
Firstly we would like to thank all who visited and contributed to our site whilst this one was down for maintenance work.

Secondly we would like to point out that although our site is there for the long haul it is first and foremost an information site for travelers of the AHMS and has in no way been set up in direct competition to this one.
We encourage our member to use this forum as well as our own site.

Thirdly we would to say everyone is welcome to visit our site and contribute to our forums from time to time, there is as far as we are aware no ill feeling between the people who run both sites, with EdinTon being given admin rights to the AHMS site whilst this one was down we think you'll appreciate this was the case.

Finally we at the AHMS would like to wish this forum continued success.

AHMS

Thanks Edinton. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-12 16:22:57
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 12 2007, 02:00 PM) [snapback]298631[/snapback]
I may have a job interview the weekend of the 4th of August. And I really want the job, but something else is that Saturday...

Argh! sad.gif

I pray you get the job-you've far too much time on your pudgy little paws.
mortonjag 2007-07-12 16:24:14
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 12 2007, 10:23 AM) [snapback]298549[/snapback]
Cheers for giving Mortonjag another place to talk drivel!

....wait why am I thanking?

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FU2 spammer!
mortonjag 2007-07-13 06:55:53
QUOTE(GMC @ Jul 12 2007, 04:18 PM) [snapback]298696[/snapback]
You're losing it, mortonjag. McLaughlin left back? Millar up front?


I've been losing it for ages-just a shame I'm still miles ahead of you lot.

It's a bounce game where we should be experimenting my child.

Either McLaughlin plays there and doubles as a sweeper, or he's not in my team.

Midge is perfectly capable of playing wide up front-he and Jamie DON'T compliment each other in the middle.
mortonjag 2007-07-13 06:56:56
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 12 2007, 07:05 PM) [snapback]298757[/snapback]
Losing, no. Lost, yes.

And kindly don't quote him. smile.gif

You might as well cancel the 'huff button' baby face! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-13 06:59:09
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 12 2007, 08:41 PM) [snapback]298768[/snapback]
I know you have just picked a throw away team for a friendly but if we were to play that team I don't even think we should bother turning up as we will learn nothing and probably get over run and bullied in midfield.

Problems with that team as I see them :

McLaughlin played left back against Stirling Albion I think it was and for me he was dreadful. Waste of time even trying him there for me. Especially if you aren't playing MacGregor anywhere else. Although and probably to your concern I think Jim would agree with you and have McLaughlin down as a possibility at left back, especially after his statement that MacGregor could be an option in midfield.

I think that if Jim has decided we are definitely not signing a strong midifelder Weatherson should play in midfield next season to at least provide some sort of strength and aerial ability.

Also, if anything McAlister or Stevenson would play where Millar is in your team and Millar somewhere in the midfield.

I believe you shouldn't rule out McLaughlin on the basis of one game. He's one of our few left footed players-he reads the defensive game well and his cover and tracking back are excellent-I'm afraid it's either there or he's going to warm the bench all season as he's a waste of space in attack.
mortonjag 2007-07-13 07:28:01
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 12 2007, 11:50 PM) [snapback]298810[/snapback]
I hear that there might be another share issue coming soon.

That sounds interesting DE-are you friendly with Shoogly's physician? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-13 07:31:57
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 12 2007, 04:31 PM) [snapback]298708[/snapback]
Eh?

The post was made by one of the Albert members, I think... blink.gif

EH?

I just thanked my mate from Auld Reekie for his administrative function! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-13 07:34:13
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 12 2007, 04:36 PM) [snapback]298713[/snapback]
He's thanking Edinton for not admining him out of existence on the albert site. smile.gif

It was a pleasure AND a revelation to use a site mainly frequented by gentlemen of some reason and breadth of mind.

I shall return there frequently for relief from the daily drudgery of Tontastic's muppet shop.
mortonjag 2007-07-13 07:39:00
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jul 13 2007, 12:18 AM) [snapback]298816[/snapback]
Partick no longer want him.
And as if having no signings isn't bad enough, it becomes clear with the Coakley situation that the chairman's been blatantly lying to the fans. McInally said we'd asked him to come along with us before Thistle were in for him. mad.gif

You would NOT have got off with that statement just a short while ago Dunning!

In fact-just to deprive the hardened Shooglyphiles of another moment of devious pleasure-

ARE YOU CALLING THE CHAIRMAN A LIAR?
mortonjag 2007-07-13 08:09:56
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Jul 1 2007, 08:01 PM) [snapback]298448[/snapback]
its no wonder i dont post on here no more, you are all a bunch of imature adolecence school children with nothing better to entertain yourselves with exept a silly keyboard and messageboard......................my message to you lot are GROW UP..........................I DID

Except you and me mate-welcome back Al! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-13 08:13:34
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 13 2007, 02:01 AM) [snapback]298864[/snapback]
Ryan Russell has left us - rejected the contract offered.


That's the second winger who's 'rejected' an offer, albeit the first this season. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-13 08:18:56 I have available for sale two season tickets-well I believe I will have at some point!

I'm now thinking of touting them outside Scapa at the Clyde game for a massive profit. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-13 08:26:12
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Jul 12 2007, 04:53 PM) [snapback]298721[/snapback]
By Sky News SkyNews - 39 minutes ago
Toxic fake toothpaste that could have serious health consequences for anyone using it has been sold in markets and discount shops in the UK, the British medicines regulator has said.

ADVERTISEMENT

The imitation tubes of Sensodyne have both Arabic and English writing on them.

The manufacturer of the legitimate product, GlaxoSmithKline, has said the fake toothpaste has high levels of the chemical Diethylene Glycol.

The chemical could be toxic to young children and anyone with impaired liver or kidney function.

In a statement the company said the fakes were illegal copies and had no connection with GlaxoSmithKline.

It said legitimate Sensodyne, labelled only in English and sourced from authorised suppliers is not defective and the public can continue to purchase and use these products with confidence.

Anyone with one of the fake packs is advised to dispose of it immediately.

The Paris-based International Chamber of Commerce believes that the trade in fake goods including medicines and drugs is increasing dramatically.

The ICC estimates counterfeiting costs companies more than £300m a year, although others argue that figure is much too low.

They'll get hammered for that-what about all the other ethnic minorities who clean their teeth?
mortonjag 2007-07-13 08:30:13
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jul 12 2007, 06:36 PM) [snapback]298750[/snapback]
How does one manage to be independently wealthy on a teachers salary? tongue.gif


The rank is but the Guinea Stamp

The man's the gowd for a' that.

Mr Trollbuster has a wealth of knowledge and experience frequently shunned by those impoverished of intellect DM.
mortonjag 2007-07-13 08:32:22 Compare the Comet price with Amazon's-it looks a good deal-some of Amazon's deals on Canon are excellent.
mortonjag 2007-07-13 08:35:27
QUOTE(CraigoTON @ Jul 13 2007, 12:05 AM) [snapback]298813[/snapback]
Was wondering if anyone would be able to help me out?

the TV in my living room has recently started to flicker and the screen has begin to change shape every so often. Was just wondering what the problem could be. My dads idea is that it could be the tube inside the TV thats buggered, But the TV is only about 2 years old and surely it can't be done already.

My idea however, is that its something to do with the Cable (ntl / virgin media) connection thats coming into the house. Our previous TV done the exact same thing within about 4 months of getting connected. So could this be whats caused the newer Tv to start going mad? Or am i just talking crap?

Any help would be great!!

CraigoTON

Swop it for another TV that works-if the problem persists it's not your telly!

Simple diagnosis. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-13 08:40:37 The Wankeys have emerged from their summer recess as the new season approaches.

I can see we're going to be extremely busy at home as nobody at Scapa seems to give a toss about Morton anymore.
mortonjag 2007-07-13 08:47:29
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Jul 1 2007, 05:28 PM) [snapback]298389[/snapback]
So how many first generation immigrants have you heard of committing terrorist crimes. How about issues like social deprivation, a rise worldwide in Islamic fundamentalism brought on it part by a failure to solve the Middle-east crisis after 40 years and the UK buddying up to the US for the Iraq war. Or a multitude of other issues some of which have been brought about by the PC acceptance that everything about multiculturalism is good - when clearly it is not.As I've said I think the UK in general has controlled and sensible immigration laws, yes there can be improvements but you also have to address other issues at the same time - knife / gun crime amongst the young, the binge drinking culture, general lack of respect and over-reliance on government support. If a 18 year old Pole can work for 2 quid an hour (which I thought is illegal given the minimum wage) then why can't an 18 year old Scot.Sweeping generalisation there MJ, so I would definitely say you know less. OK my knowledge might be a little out of date - but I used to know some parts of Glasgow quite well - often worked with my Dad when the city council were installing the door entry systems in some of the more 'interesting' parts of Glasgow and went out with a lassie from Shawlands when I was at college so was down that way quite regularly.

But hey nothing should stand in the way of a wee dig.

cool.gif ScotinBelgie


As I said to the other ex pat Jesus from Dublin-you're welcome to join me over here for a pint any time.

Let me take you by the hand and lead you through the streets of G43

I'll show you something to make you change your mind.

I can let you have the chords too BTW! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-13 08:58:15 Please add helpful comments.
mortonjag 2007-07-13 09:02:37 How did the mental picture of your Mummy and Daddy 'having it off' affect you? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-13 09:32:26
QUOTE(crgadams @ Jul 13 2007, 09:27 AM) [snapback]298912[/snapback]
I never met your mummy and daddy, so I don't have a mental picture of them!


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Are you REALLY sure you never met them-anyway I was talking about YOUR 'Mummy and Daddy'-I have edited the post for simple minds! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-13 18:27:14
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Jul 13 2007, 10:33 AM) [snapback]298925[/snapback]
Why do you need giant purple letters to make that point mj? Just tryin to get on people's tits again??

PINK

not

PURPLE



are you colour blind AND a trouble maker?
mortonjag 2007-07-13 18:37:21
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 13 2007, 03:24 PM) [snapback]299064[/snapback]
No. I thought that you were his physician. Given his 'cheerful, are you up for it' disposition, I reckoned it could be no other than the mad Doctor Mentaljag who was scripting his doses of 'happiness'.


I am SO tempted to post an unethical comment!
mortonjag 2007-07-13 18:38:46
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jul 13 2007, 12:30 PM) [snapback]298975[/snapback]
Yes I am.

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mortonjag 2007-07-13 18:49:19
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 13 2007, 04:32 PM) [snapback]299085[/snapback]
We are in the process of giving guys trials as we had a lack of targets to sign . Apart from Mensing and Sutton we haven't been linked with any other outfield player .
That to me shows a striking niavety on the clubs part . Don't take this up with me it was the chairman and manager who confirmed these aspirations .
We were told that we were looking for experience to aid our return to the first . Are these the guys who are going to give us this . Will they not be put under pressure because of our lack of depth to the squad . I would welcome their signings to accompany the players we need now for this campaign but not as replacements .
Injuries , what has going to Dundee university got with players not getting injured is this Scotlands Lourdes ?
We will have more compedative games than last season which will also mean suspensions as well as possible injuries .
There were plenty of players whose form dipped last term yet we were still able to overcome the limited opposition we won't get that luck this season .


Naw but it's nearer JM's hoose that IRH!
mortonjag 2007-07-13 19:00:03 I voted 'mibbee'-it's possible we're being unfair-it's possible the best has yet to come.

What I DON'T understand, is why we continue to get confusing and mixed messages. We ARE the paying public-in that sense I think criticism is entirely valid.

I'm totally bemused by the concept of a 'pot full of money', into which JM is unwilling to dip.

Is he trying to be too clever by saving Shoogly's cash, AND producing the winning formula?

...or is it just much simpler? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-13 19:08:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 13 2007, 09:54 AM) [snapback]298916[/snapback]

more sedition ?

nobody at Scapa seems to give a toss about Morton anymore.

? ? ? ? ?

Incorrect - perhaps everybody at Scapa has become a Wankey and believes in the fantasy of their choice.

? ? ? ? ?

Their fantasy ?

We don't need fresh blood.
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sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif


The wankeys must take a stand.
mortonjag 2007-07-13 19:11:38
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jul 13 2007, 11:31 AM) [snapback]298950[/snapback]
So is it that repressed memory that made you turn to drink?


Anything is possible!

I notice that everybody so far has avoided answering a perfectly legitimate question!

Everybody except NewTON wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-13 19:17:01
QUOTE(lush @ Jul 13 2007, 11:08 AM) [snapback]298941[/snapback]
Another sheep botherer? blink.gif


Almost two weeks on that civilised gentlemen's forum Lush, and not once was my sexuality questioned.

One day back here and I'm accused of bestiality.

So I'm partial to a wee bit of lamb now and then-

WELL SO WHAT?

mortonjag 2007-07-14 06:39:30
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Jul 13 2007, 08:15 PM) [snapback]299172[/snapback]
who says you can call me AL..................................alison moyet

.....naw yon Irish bloke Al O'Pecia!
mortonjag 2007-07-14 06:41:36
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jul 13 2007, 09:50 PM) [snapback]299208[/snapback]
You've not gone all shy on us MJ? rolleyes.gif What's stopping you? laugh.gif

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Not shy-just careful about anything that even borders on a professional statement. Mortonjag may be mad, but he's no daft! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-14 06:57:13 never forget the past, the future will sort out itself. CLAIMS MICK

Damn you AJCTON and your lazy attitude!! Had it not been for DDFR saving us from extinction, wee Shug would have had us in the EssPeeEll by now. Forget the fact that we'd have been based in a Ben & Jerry's indoor stadium somewhere near Buchanan St., that's totally irrelevant. dry.gif

Bawheid, for some reason I'm surprised at the negativity of your initial post, but not massively surprised by some of the responses.

If it's not the strip, then it's the season books (for the downbeat out there, can someone rant / update me on where they are? unsure.gif ). If it's not the players, then it's the Manager, and if it's not them then it'll be DDFR and co.

For the record, it's not that I don't want to see the 'Ton get into the EssPeeEll and be able to compete. I do.
However, I do actually enjoy and appreciate just going to watch them. Yeah, I get upset when they don't do as well as I would like, as everyone does, but overall I'm just happy to go and watch them. Yes, I've seen better sides, but I trust the manager to get a decent team on the park and to get us playing. I trust the Management.

All the negativity spouted on here (and the vast, vast majority of it is - I'm sure someone's done a poll somewhere!) really gets on my paps.


Seriously, ladies and gents, EanieMeany especially, you really need to catch a grip. Relax and enjoy.
[/quote]



Contender for most original quote of the year!

PAPS-two very large ones at Scapa IMHO-and founder members of the Shoogly puppet show.
mortonjag 2007-07-14 07:06:11
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jul 14 2007, 12:57 AM) [snapback]299291[/snapback]
if there is a criticism to be made it is fairly simple, communication has been pish. The manager has shown his intent by trying to sign proven quality players such as Sutton. Lets be honetst where would you rather play England where there is money or Scotland where there aint even so much as a sponsor for the league oh and I forgot money. We can only try to attract players if they dont want to come then we cant huckle them into the club and keep them in a cupboard and just bring them out when we are playing, questions will be asked if we do that.

As I have said before the squad we have is a good young side who have played together for a while and I dont think we have seen the last of the signings. The chairman and manager aint daft, there is a wage structure if the right player comes in then that may change, but I do think we will be safe next season in fact I think we can do quite well simply because the players were stale plying in the 2nd. mark my words the boys will be up for the challenge ahead.
keep the faith

Fact or opinion AJC?
mortonjag 2007-07-14 07:11:44
QUOTE(Mick @ Jul 14 2007, 01:34 AM) [snapback]299303[/snapback]
Firstly, don't speak for the masses - you don't. sad.gif
For balance, I'm really looking forward to the new season - can't wait actually. However many years in the 2nd and 3rd has been far too long. I've even placed an order for a season book (I don't even care if the bl00dy thing is water-damaged), the fantastic looking new strip and everything!!!! Woo hoo!

Secondly, regarding the perception that we're a 'half-empty' kind of bunch, perhaps we should all be grateful to yourself, MJ et al for their concerted efforts this Summer. Job well done fellas.

Communication (in an age where we now have so many forums / vehicles for it) has been very poor. I'm sure that even the Club would accept that. However, if you're equating the lack of signings with a lack of effort then you're more misguided than I thought.

Kindly ask MJ to tell you about supply and demand.

You Sir, are an unconscious comedian.

Mortonjag, Chrissiboi, and a certain gentleman who shall remain nameless could tell you quite a lot about SUPPLY AND DEMAND!

As you appear to be the one who DOES speak for the masses perhaps you already know what I'm talking about. rolleyes.gif

And full marks for another contribution to the 'most original comment' competition.
mortonjag 2007-07-14 07:23:54
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Jul 13 2007, 12:28 PM) [snapback]298974[/snapback]
Next time I'm in town your on. Easier if it was down the Spinny mind!

tongue.gif ScotinBelgie


Nope-it's the Star Bar in Eglinton St (Pollokshaws Rd)-£4 for a three course meal for the two of us-food you'll never taste a La Belgique, and as much drink as you want. wink.gif

There you may savour the local ambience, and later we can swan back to my place via Albert Drive, and up past Darnley St and Forth St towards Crossmyloof-then back along Minard Rd and down the main drag to my local Lidl for a carry out.

This will not be 'plus ca change' let alone 'deja vu' Robert.

You will be ASTONISHED at the changes in such a short time!
mortonjag 2007-07-14 07:31:54
QUOTE(StuMac @ Jul 13 2007, 10:49 AM) [snapback]298930[/snapback]
Maybe you should ask your own kids that question!! tongue.gif

No need-my naughty little brats often had a good giggle at our infrequent activities! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-14 07:34:57
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 13 2007, 10:54 AM) [snapback]298935[/snapback]
Is this really the kind of thing that you think about?

I did think about it during my childhood BH-I just wondered what others thought, but as usual all the Macho men disappear when asked a sensitive question.

When I was in my early and mid teens, the idea of my Mum and Dad 'having it off' appalled me-I've since realised that that's not at all an uncommon perception by children.
mortonjag 2007-07-14 07:35:42
QUOTE(lush @ Jul 13 2007, 10:56 AM) [snapback]298938[/snapback]
Your not saying that MJ still does IT? ohmy.gif


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mortonjag 2007-07-14 07:36:51
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Jul 13 2007, 08:18 PM) [snapback]299175[/snapback]
I found it hard to imagine ma maw shaften an urn full oh hot ashes


Did she keep it simmering on the stove?
mortonjag 2007-07-14 07:37:31
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 13 2007, 09:22 PM) [snapback]299199[/snapback]
It is unkind to bother geriatric sheep.

It is ageist too!
mortonjag 2007-07-14 07:40:25
QUOTE(weeleebin @ Jul 14 2007, 12:21 AM) [snapback]299284[/snapback]
hi everyone this is my first time on the site am a big morton fan but also follow rangers my fave bands r green day n the killers i go 2 quite a lot of the matches and youll find me at the back of the cowshed wae a big diddy that yees aw no so try n guess hoo it is lookin forward tae the next season n hope we go up again


Here comes Sick Mick mark two!
mortonjag 2007-07-14 07:43:49 This thread has gone SEVERELY OFF TOPIC mad.gif

Unless things have changed much-Barrowfield-a scheme which has an uncanny architectural ressemblance to Feegie.
mortonjag 2007-07-14 07:45:09
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 14 2007, 05:37 AM) [snapback]299319[/snapback]
rip what ??

Van Winkle
mortonjag 2007-07-14 07:50:34
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 14 2007, 12:04 AM) [snapback]299279[/snapback]
Oh right, if they love other races so much then why did they have to get diverted to avoid a "Muslims Against Racism" rally?

Edit: In George Square yesterday, apparently.


Details please-nothing in today's Herald.
mortonjag 2007-07-14 08:23:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 14 2007, 08:10 AM) [snapback]299340[/snapback]
Is it true that he was known by his fellow Wankeys (Wankies ?) as Willie Van Winkle ??

huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif


You're maybe thinking of Willie Wan Wrinkle

RIP was know to his friends as FISH Van Winkle.
mortonjag 2007-07-14 08:28:03
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jul 14 2007, 08:23 AM) [snapback]299341[/snapback]
He aint daft he is however mad. nuff said


Which-or both-or were you trying to 'cleverly' avoid answering the question? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-14 08:33:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 14 2007, 08:25 AM) [snapback]299343[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

Could weeleebin be Sick's son ?

By the way, how is Sick going in his new job ?

Sick's back from his holiday-he was posting in the wee small hours about-guess what? laugh.gif

Apparently he's applied for a job as Shoogly's PA-making the tea, filing away his e-mail folders, scanning Greenockmorton.net, and spinning tales for the Tilly.
mortonjag 2007-07-14 08:36:16
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 14 2007, 08:27 AM) [snapback]299344[/snapback]
you have an interesting email.

Is today day 20 ???

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sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif


Today Newt is Bastille day

VIVE LA REVOLUTION!

mortonjag 2007-07-14 08:51:31
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 14 2007, 08:40 AM) [snapback]299349[/snapback]
Are there any plans to storm the Fort ????
huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif


Word has it that it's curently abandoned, though the troops reassemble on Monday.
mortonjag 2007-07-14 12:19:21
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jul 14 2007, 09:54 AM) [snapback]299358[/snapback]
Um...a pleasure?

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mortonjag 2007-07-14 12:30:30
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 13 2007, 10:51 PM) [snapback]299222[/snapback]
haha quod erat demonstrandum, eh big boy?

Have you not mastered the art of making every letter a different colour, like with your crayons?

CRAYONS MY ARSE



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mortonjag 2007-07-14 12:33:26
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 14 2007, 10:17 AM) [snapback]299366[/snapback]
Anne? ohmy.gif laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2007-07-14 12:36:53 Shoogly will be back from holiday on Monday-things will begin to happen-don't know what mind you! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-14 12:41:08
QUOTE(tigerjock @ Jul 14 2007, 12:30 PM) [snapback]299409[/snapback]
POODLES, POODLES and more POODLES..............how long have some of you been a morton fan...ffs rae saved the club from going bust after that cretin who nearly caused the death of gmfc.....all chairmen make mistakes after all you can't do a course on owning/managing a football club...you grow into it.

Get over yourselves, we are in the 1st after many years trawling the lower reaches.

Fickle bunch of twats


Not according to Mr Mileson!

How long will it take for JM to get past his management nappy stage?
mortonjag 2007-07-14 12:43:10
QUOTE(stuart @ Jul 14 2007, 12:41 PM) [snapback]299415[/snapback]
Can anyone suggest a chairman that has pleased all of the fans all of the time?

MAO
mortonjag 2007-07-14 12:47:25
QUOTE(shedhead @ Jul 14 2007, 09:16 AM) [snapback]299352[/snapback]
what a stupid poll rolleyes.gif

Be careful you - Ton in Dublin's friendly with lots of polls!
mortonjag 2007-07-14 12:55:44
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 14 2007, 10:57 AM) [snapback]299383[/snapback]
Happy Birthday to Tom McB, the boards resident pedagogue, and until MJ's recent heightened presence on the scene, our resident pedant. Hope you have a few nice wee drams today and then regale us later this evening with a few drunken jibes. Have a good 'un mate. Just for the record, I have been reading that the true measure of how much your children love you is by the way they openly declare their love for you on a public message board, telling embarassing stories about how the aforementioned person has made a James Hunt of themselves on occasion over the years.

Or was it that they gave the most extravagant and expensive presents to their beloved papa.

Over to you Laura, what's it to be ???????

As I said, enjoy Mr McB ..... go easy my friend.

TonInDublin


Happy birthday Mr Trollbuster! wink.gif

If my recent 'heightened presence' only offended 'Jesus' because of apparent pedantry I am mightily relieved-not that I could ever aspire to the heights attained by your goodself!

mortonjag 2007-07-14 12:58:51
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 14 2007, 11:22 AM) [snapback]299394[/snapback]
The guy in the last Sketch in Thursday Nights still game would like to join.

I think so far he's been the one most proving his worthiness.

In fact he should be Our Leader.

EJACULUS MAXIMUS-leader of the Wankeys.
mortonjag 2007-07-14 13:01:23
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 14 2007, 11:29 AM) [snapback]299395[/snapback]
Oh I don't know Raymie, your namesake Sean O' would be seen as a real hero to a lot of the knuckle draggers.
I was unfortunate enough to witness the same march on Thursday, and let me tell you lads it's a weird sensation when you haven't seen one for about a decade. The big baw heids never change though, same ugly people, same horrible shell suits, only the sponsor changes. And swaggers that could dry a washing.

Painful to behold.

TonInDublin

I could have sworn you were totally up to date with civil behaviour over here Sir! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-14 13:05:02
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 14 2007, 05:39 AM) [snapback]299320[/snapback]
So the build up preview to this fight last night on STV believe it or not and it was all about our boy Khan. f***ing typical if you ask me.


I'm afraid to comment-SOMEBODY will be offended.

Oh f***-I just have.

Well I might go for broke then-Khan's 25-1 odds ON.

Am I allowed to say I ALWAYS support the underdog? sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-14 13:08:00
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 14 2007, 11:58 AM) [snapback]299402[/snapback]
Come on, its a wee boy. Nae need for that.


Aye right-Grandad laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-14 13:09:52
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 14 2007, 10:49 AM) [snapback]299381[/snapback]
This is very positive and obviously the curing has started big time.

You see admitting to being a supporter of the OF is like admitting you have an addiction.
Only once this is recognised by the sufferer can the cure really start beginning.

Evidence of this....

1) You're now a Big Ton fan
2) Rangers have now been relegated to being your 2nd team with The Ton now being promoted to being your 1st.
3) You're now supporting a team led by an Ex Sceptic person.
4) You can say the word Green
5) You support Green related things tongue.gif
6) You're using the word 'We' which obviously shows you now class the Ton support as your family.
Now to show that you've finally turned the corner why don't you buy a season ticket, you can even pay them up over 10 months.

Well done that man rolleyes.gif


....interest free, and if you buy more than two you get a years supply of free Fudgy Wudgy.
mortonjag 2007-07-14 13:13:24
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 14 2007, 10:38 AM) [snapback]299376[/snapback]
That's unbelievable.

The 1st Friday night in years I'm not anywhere near The Willow and this happens.
I've just noticed the time it happened. I was out and about this area around that time.
It was bucketing with rain and I was absolutely drenched.

I hope I don't know him.

ALIBI and he's not even been accused yet!
mortonjag 2007-07-14 13:15:41
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 14 2007, 01:13 PM) [snapback]299432[/snapback]
Spot on TaunTon, spot on.

Forgive the slight plagiarism, but you get the picture .......

MJ said I would go to Valhalla,
But I couldn't accept his views,
So I've booked myself a ticket,
To the paradise of The Jews,
MJ Obersturmbahnfuhrer the twit ..... 'errrr
Can shove that right up his s***ter.

Heil Me.

LatterDayJesusInDublin (loving that moniker MJ, loving it).

ps Although with a bit of thought and a wee bit more use of your Goebbels propoganda, you could have come up with JesusInHabitatAroundDublin, or JIHAD for short, thereby linking my latter day Jesus status to the emerging
terrorist atrocities in the extremist Muslim world, completely decrying both the Jewish, Catholic and Muslim faiths
in one fell swoop, paving a way for your Aryan master race and confirming your place as paranoid #1.
What a missed opportunity .... must try harder MJ, must try harder.

Trust me lads, it's only a matter of time till he's declaring Gott Mitt Uns. (and he'll decide the Uns)


You're struggling TiD!
mortonjag 2007-07-14 13:19:02
QUOTE(tigerjock @ Jul 14 2007, 12:54 PM) [snapback]299420[/snapback]
Lol jag, if i knew that then i'd be running the club..................hull have just been bought for 10mil, the chairman is a property developer and is the mouthpiece of a 3 man consortium, made a total hash of bringing in juninho, which has been followed by wobbling before we have even played a friendly........do you wear a kilt for scotland matches by any chance


No just a tartan stethoscope.
mortonjag 2007-07-14 13:22:01
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 14 2007, 01:02 PM) [snapback]299427[/snapback]
He was at Scappa on Friday!! unsure.gif



That new mascot's suit's VERY realistic I'm told! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-14 13:43:02
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 14 2007, 01:27 PM) [snapback]299439[/snapback]
Have been down to the ancestral stamping ground a few times this week. On Friday I was strolling along West Blackhall Street when I saw the Celtic Shop. mad.gif

A Celtic shop in Greenock?

Seemed to be doing good business too. sad.gif

Basturts

My Dad, God rest his soul, would have been heartened by that news. He was an accomplished local archeologist and historian, with a particular interest in the Celts.

Do they have any good books about Iona?
mortonjag 2007-07-14 13:47:02
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 14 2007, 01:20 PM) [snapback]299436[/snapback]
But not for original, compassionate and inclusive thoughts for all of my fellow men, Herr Oberst.

TonInDublin


So you really DO like my description of our 'latter day ex-pat Jesus'.

I've little doubt that if I persist in this vein for long enough you'll tell me it's all been a big 'wind up'.

Maybe best just to do it now? dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-14 13:49:25
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 14 2007, 01:32 PM) [snapback]299440[/snapback]
The consensus here seemed to be 1.00 not 11.00 so I took myself down to Inverclyde for 1.00 to meet the players leaving. 11.00 was the correct time.

I gather that Albion Rovers won 3-2 but that we had two different teams on first and second half. I don't have any other details about scorers etc.


Those pre-season friendlies are very unreliable. sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-14 14:17:11
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 14 2007, 02:11 PM) [snapback]299449[/snapback]
I suppose if our kit was available with season tickets also available Smiths would have been busy also sad.gif
Probably filled with some of the lumpers you taught in the Columba , you should have belted more sense into them laugh.gif

...plenty of Koala lumpers too Chrissiboi! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-14 17:34:51
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 14 2007, 02:48 PM) [snapback]299462[/snapback]
What has actually been most enjoyable is seeing the rising angst in every one of your replies to my neo-Nazi accusations - in relative terms "latter day Jesus" was always going to amuse me just as much as Obersturmbahnfuhrer annoyed you !

Although to be fair and honest, I did think, and do think the original poll could have been much better thought through.

Einig Keit Und Recht Und Freiheit - commendable sentiment and an excellent first line to any national anthem ........ but lets have einig keit und recht und freiheit for everyone, eh ?

Oberst and out !

TonInDublin

Finally, a subject on which I have no practical knowledge ???? You really are a tool. My next door neighbours on one side are a Nigerian couple, the couple who live two doors down are Muslim, I am a manager of a factory of ~1300 people, of which ~700 are Irish, ~150 are UK citizens, ~200 are Polish, 80 are South African and we have ~100 Indians. Every day I encourage them to collaborate together in an inclusive work environment that thrives on their own unique individuality and encourage each one of them to contribute fully and reach their full potential. They trust me with their well being and being treated with dignity and respect every day of their life, and to date I've not been found wanting. Refreshingly, neither have they.Thankfully, I don't have too many like you in the mix.

How many Muslims work in your factory TiD-is it perchance a bacon processing plant?

As I said at the outset I've never presumed to argue with your knowledge of your environment.

I am not a racist. I am not a Nazi. I have many Muslim friends-do you have any?

I've asked you to explain what you meant by my 'stirring up s*** and bile', with 'undertones', and you still refuse to answer.

To paraphrase your goodself, no amount of flowery language, and no 'amusement at my rising angst' at false accusations can disguise the fact that you haven't a clue what I'm talking about, and have jumped to a totally incorrect conclusion.

I still don't believe I've lowered myself to personal insults. You clearly have a Jesus like approach to life-highly commendable in theory, but often totally impractical in reality.
mortonjag 2007-07-14 17:38:01
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 14 2007, 02:44 PM) [snapback]299459[/snapback]
I'd probably agree with that.

Any particular reason why Nach0?
mortonjag 2007-07-14 17:41:16
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 14 2007, 03:47 PM) [snapback]299474[/snapback]
surely our leader should be a lady.

huh.gif huh.gif

Then I nominate Ton in Dublin!
mortonjag 2007-07-14 17:42:32
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 14 2007, 03:57 PM) [snapback]299480[/snapback]
Now now MJ, play nice. I don't need to see everything to remain clued in to the reality of situations. All I said was it was the first one I had SEEN since I left Scotland eleven and a half years ago.

What's most depressing was the amount of fathers/grandfathers who had their kids with them - in some cases their grand kids. All decked out, all living their fathers dreams.

There's three great songs (Natives, North & South and The Island) that should be mandatory listening and understanding for younger children who are being indoctrinated with some of this bile - you need to learn to walk your own path in life. By all means let peopel who are old enough to make a reasoned judgement walk the streets if that is their bent (on either side) - but at least educate them first and let them live a bit first. To see a kid of about five (as I did on Thursday) sitting on an old mans shoulders, resplendent in the new Rangers strip and a wee Sash is just sad. Indescribably sad.

TonInDublin


At least we're agreed on something!
mortonjag 2007-07-14 17:44:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 14 2007, 03:56 PM) [snapback]299479[/snapback]
How long will it take for JM to get past his management nappy stage?

How long will it take for JM to learn to use a phone ?

blink.gif blink.gif

Maybe his phone's been confiscated.
mortonjag 2007-07-15 06:45:08
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 14 2007, 11:04 PM) [snapback]299578[/snapback]
Somebody catch this for posterity. Myself and HamCam in violent agreement on something. You are a sage man HamCam, and spot on in your prognosis. My thoughts exactly - and so obvious.

And, strangely enough, I once lumbered a carpet muncher amidst thoughts I could turn her. Bottom line was I am a s***e wencher, and wasn't great at finding her wee man in the boat.

Cow ..... she was probably gagging for it but too shy to say. In my humble opinion !

TonInDublin

Ah-one supportive post and this latter day ex pat Jesus in Dublin (with his four anonymous Muslim friends and two Muslim housekeepers) crucifies himself with contradiction.

I am NOT calling you a racist he claimed earlier. laugh.gif

If the poll was politically, religiously, or ethnically inappropriate I imagine it would have been dealt with by the gaffers.

As Lush has suggested some folks are easily brainwashed by the media.

Immigration policy-AS EVIDENCED IN MANY GLASGOW INNER CITY AREAS-has become a National joke.

It is puerile in the extreme to imagine that our culture and economy have been improved by the events of the last few years.

That is the view of the large majority of my Asian friends, who DO know what they are talking about when it comes to immigration and integration.

If taking reasonable steps to ensure that immigrants are likely to benefit us (and benefit from us in return) is neo Nazi, I'm just goose stepping off to the 'Herren' for a swastikeech. blink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-15 07:01:46
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 14 2007, 08:43 PM) [snapback]299558[/snapback]
Is that hang or hang up on ? Still no reply .
Perhaps we should do an album for the 3 stooges . DDFR , Crawdford and old folded arms .
What about [center][/center]
HANGING ON THE TELEPHONE
CALL ME
I'VE GOT YOUR NUMBER WRITTEN ON THE BACK OF MY HAND
NO REPLY

PEOPLE SHOULD BE TELLING US ABOUT YOUNG TALENT
mortonjag 2007-07-15 07:09:35 Mortonjag's offer to sponsor Lee Robinson to the tune of (Australian) $40.000 was knocked back on the grounds that his name on the Match Programme was a potential ethnic slur. sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-15 07:14:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 14 2007, 10:36 PM) [snapback]299573[/snapback]
Kilmarnock had been interested in Buskiewicz after they sold Kris Boyd to Rangers. At the time Killie boss Jim Jefferies said: “Pawel was a wee bit short of what we are looking for.â€
ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

Though Morton lost interest when they discovered his first name is actually Enoch-not wanting of course to offend their thousands of fans of various creeds and colours.
mortonjag 2007-07-15 07:25:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 14 2007, 10:57 PM) [snapback]299577[/snapback]
I forget what I had for breakfast the same day.

Gidday HamCam,

has mortonjag diagnosed you with CRY syndrome or CRAFT syndrome yet ?

or can't you remember ?

huh.gif huh.gif

HamCam wouldn't consult a racist physician to save his life Newt,

I believe he shags goats out in the 'Sticks'. Last week he apparently spotted a wee lassie in a burqa standing outside the Savings Bank, and vigilantly 'phoned the Polis.
mortonjag 2007-07-15 07:36:09
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 14 2007, 11:54 PM) [snapback]299593[/snapback]
None are so blind ...

sad.gif sad.gif


....as the 22 year old pieman!

Piehutt met Jim McInally looking for a player
Said Jim to little Piehutt 'Man your ball control is rare'
Said Piehutt to his hero 'Sir I'll play for not a penny',
and JM signed him on the spot as Shoogly hasn't any. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-15 07:39:58
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jul 15 2007, 01:41 AM) [snapback]299610[/snapback]
Of all the arguments for and against Rae I'm finding the 'Dougie saved Morton' the hardest to swallow. Surely it was the Save the Ton campaign and the lads and lassies with buckets in their hands that really saved the club.
Rae is an absolute dullard (anyone who has met the man and doesn't agree must be equally dull) but he is the club chairman and owner and should be afforded a level of respect.
Football clubs are not democracies. He is what we have.


Are you calling our chairman a

RESPECTABLE DULLARD?

mortonjag 2007-07-15 07:49:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 14 2007, 07:21 PM) [snapback]299545[/snapback]
a lady, not a laddie.


I think he's a lady in disguise- everything he says has a sweetly feminine logical ring-there again he's been oot the country for a while Newt and you know how that affects one's sanity! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-15 07:59:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 14 2007, 08:23 PM) [snapback]299552[/snapback]
the internet is now a dumber place, thanks to you.
Gidday Greacen2000,

Come on, mate, live and let live.

There's no value in being judgmental.


Greacen has clearly been profoundly disturbed by a simple and thoroughly legitimate question Newt.

When children learn about the birds and bees (often before the age of forty) they inevitably consider the possibility that 'Mummy and Daddy' are part of the picture.

They inevitably imagine 'Mummy and Daddy sleeping together', and they inevitably react psychologically.

The internet is now a dumber place thanks to the dumbness of some folk with 'issues' pehaps!

As Wordsworth opined-'The child is father of the man'.
mortonjag 2007-07-15 08:09:20
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 14 2007, 11:56 PM) [snapback]299594[/snapback]
I drove a bus there for about six months between the Drum and Kings Park .
I think it was Summerhill where the local neds hung around firing golf balls at the bus . Or trying to ggt on without paying . Had one guy who attacked the vault ( as it was exact fare ) . I just sat until he had finished giving this thing a kicking for about five minutes . Hilarious
Lets just say not many of the drivers adhered to the speed limit tongue.gif


The 'Drum' always had its very bad areas Chrissiboi, but Easterhouse, Castlemilk, Pollok,-any of the bigger Glasgow Council schemes is picked on by folk who don't know the full story.

Every one of those has its 'good bits' too-it's extremely unfair to tar them all with the same brush.

The same can't really be said of some of the smaller areas-I could name five or six- where no self respecting Glaswegian would live by CHOICE. Even they contain decent families who have lived there all their lives, and hate what's happened to their 'street', but either refuse to give in to scummery, or are unable to get a move.
mortonjag 2007-07-15 08:16:29
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 14 2007, 11:19 PM) [snapback]299582[/snapback]
Will you PLEASE stop putting facts in the way of a racist agenda. It's getting boring and detracting from the
agenda of the Bigdocs and MJ's of the world.


That Union Flag he carries into the ring is clearly a Pakistani flag in disguise, and we've all just missed it.

What with him being born in Pakistan and all. And desperately decrying his British heritage.

.....errrm, except he wasn't and he isn't.

Actually, this is how much of a Pakistani nationalist he is ..... from freely available info on the net ..... and to anyone who listens to the chap .....

"Amir Khan often uses his position as a well-known British Muslim to encourage better relations between British Muslims and the wider community, particularly in his home town of Bolton"

Sorry, back on topic. Amir Khan, what a c*** eh ?

TonInDublin


Again Sir or Madam, may I draw your attention to your very recent assertion that you do NOT think I'm a racist.

You are clearly an evangelical pragmatist- an ethnic Procrustean-naw just a f*ckin'

LIAR
mortonjag 2007-07-15 08:23:19
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 14 2007, 04:44 PM) [snapback]299491[/snapback]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinbu...ast/6897494.stm

I would love to meet the person who would report that for being offensive to them!

SNO7TON

mortonjag 2007-07-15 08:28:38
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 15 2007, 08:09 AM) [snapback]299629[/snapback]
is this mortonjag ?

That is my youngest son-and Deego has copyright for his picture, as I'm sure you'll be informed shortly! wink.gif



mortonjag 2007-07-15 08:35:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 15 2007, 08:17 AM) [snapback]299632[/snapback]
and you know how that affects one's sanity! wink.gif

Gidday mortonjag,

I sure do, mortonjag, I sure do.

From my personal experience, one's sanity declines to the point that one makes an absurdly generous offer to the chairman of a certain football club and is then subsequently treated with "apathy" by his minions.


laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

In yer dreams Newt-in yer dreams! wink.gif


mortonjag 2007-07-15 08:37:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 15 2007, 08:30 AM) [snapback]299635[/snapback]
That is my youngest son
@#&* - you must look as old as Sugar Rae.

smile.gif smile.gif


As Ton in Church in Dublin will tell you...

You're only as old as the woman you feel Newt! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-15 09:10:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 15 2007, 08:42 AM) [snapback]299638[/snapback]
In yer dreams Newt-in yer dreams!
mortonjag, sadly it ain't a dream - I think it's a @#*&ing nightmare.

Am I right or am I right ?

blink.gif blink.gif


Well you seem to be suggesting that you've made some kind of generous offer to the Chairman of some football club (I assume that'll be in Australia as you live there), and his minions have treated you somewhat shoddily.

The reason I say 'In your dreams' is that that would NEVER happen over here.

I realise you're sometimes a bit detached from reality Newt-other posters comment on it repeatedly-but c'mon-are you suggesting that if you offered-say Mr Rae of Greenock Morton-let's just come up with a figure-20 grand or so- to help the club, HIS minions would blank you?

They call ME the bleating old goat! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-15 09:13:20
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 15 2007, 08:47 AM) [snapback]299639[/snapback]
as proven by Scotland's incumbent political leader.

smile.gif smile.gif

Wee Nickerless is relatively young!
mortonjag 2007-07-15 09:15:30
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jul 13 2007, 05:18 PM) [snapback]299106[/snapback]
WeatherSON!!!

TY ThornSTON
mortonjag 2007-07-15 09:18:19
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 14 2007, 09:04 PM) [snapback]299559[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif as soon as jim said that i thought he will have a wee mistake..


Don't worry Bryan-he'll soon be convinced by JM that he's the new Midfield General.
mortonjag 2007-07-15 09:21:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 15 2007, 09:01 AM) [snapback]299642[/snapback]
mortonjag, I will say one thing for you, mate ...

you are bloody consistent.

smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif


I am a bit like a dog with a bone at times Newt-always hated gratuitous speculation from keyboard nobodies! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-15 09:27:36
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 15 2007, 07:46 AM) [snapback]299626[/snapback]
Try and keep general nonsense where it belongs MJ.



I must do better Sir! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-15 09:31:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 15 2007, 08:56 AM) [snapback]299640[/snapback]
A study has found that high-GI cereals, which are generally heavier in carbohydrate and sugar, help young people remember words better in the short term.

The findings, presented to a world brain conference in Melbourne, may support pre-exam bingeing on glucose-rich foods, but the researchers caution that eating unhealthy foods is not a sustainable tool for memory.

PhD student Michael Smith, from the University of Western Australia, compared the impact of low- and high-GI cereal on the ability of healthy teenagers to remember a list of words.

smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

.....and just to keep this to matters MORTON Newt help young players to remember the word

SIR
mortonjag 2007-07-15 10:30:02
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 15 2007, 10:05 AM) [snapback]299657[/snapback]
Now that I CAN believe. With no trouble at all.

Finally, the only person who knows for certain if you are a racist is you. It's good to see that several (not one as you suggested) board members of good standing on here over several years, felt as compelled as I did to question both the intent and the content of your daft wee poll. That says more for them than it does for you, and fills me with some hope - I've made a huge amount of friends and had plenty of excellent discussions with people from this board (and others) over the last ten years or so, and never once felt compelled to just ignore any of those posters over the years, even Bawheid when he was at his worst on the old board !!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif But you are a grinder my friend, and I think you both know that and play on that. Indeed that very word was the one used in a phone call I received yesterday by one of the old timers telling me to just hit the ignore button. He was spot on. A grinder. Well, given that no one can drive you completely insane without your own 100% full co-operation ....... I'm exiting stage left - which will leave you with the satisfaction of believing you got the last word in - that'll be enough to put your giggle stick on a wheelie for a week, and no doubt stain your keyboard as you type it - but for the last time it's Oberst and out from me, and it's Oberst and out from him. I'll let you go now Herr Gruppenfuhrer, I know you've got to be busy what with all those uniforms to press and fliers to print for the young and impressionable in the streets you know so well.
(sorry that was an uncontrollable sardonic laugh as I was finishing that sentence - hence the need for the edit)

TonInDublin


The man/woman who categorically said he/she 'wasn't calling me a racist' protests too much-then hits the 'huff button'.

I know his type-and the psyche of the 'lots of friends' he's made over the years-happy clappy mutual back slappers with the understanding that 'Jesus' is ultimately always correct because he/she's...JESUS.

Well JESUS you've met your match young Sir/Madam.

I look forward to the inevitable resurrection of an unbelievably self satisfied tw*t. rolleyes.gif




mortonjag 2007-07-15 10:35:53
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 15 2007, 10:23 AM) [snapback]299668[/snapback]
Could be Newton, although there's a bit of a hook nose there, so probably not I would suggest.

With respect to being as old as the woman you feel, I'm 41 and my partner is 30 in a months time.
So no complaints here !

TonInDublin


Oh dear-he's hit the 'huff button'-maybe some kind soul will congratulate him for me.

My partner was 32 on Tuesday last-but nobody will believe that.

41-Holy s***-another twenty years and he'll be able to see life as it really is! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-15 10:44:14
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 15 2007, 10:20 AM) [snapback]299666[/snapback]
I'm sure if that was the case a trial for Airdrie would have been arranged


Give a dog a bad name Chrissiboi-I worked in Airdrie for almost ten years, and met some nice folk! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-15 10:49:48 Going on the squad as it stands I'd pray for a mid table spot, and hope to see some decent football.

We just don't have enough experience or strength in depth.

This is the final countdown for JM-who knows-he may pull it off.

One thing's for certain-Rangers will be delighted with the experience young Robinson's going to get.
mortonjag 2007-07-15 14:46:00
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 15 2007, 02:11 PM) [snapback]299715[/snapback]
I very briefly worked in Drumchapel and hated it.


Some parts don't quite have the panoramic views of Greenock's West End!

There are several small private housing estates there now, as in many of the previously neglected big City schemes.
mortonjag 2007-07-15 15:31:51
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 15 2007, 02:24 PM) [snapback]299717[/snapback]
Been trying for ages to play Hallelujah by Cohen/Cale/others.
After replying to you yesterday I stumbled across a great version of it in G and Em - much easier to play and sing than the offerings I had in C, F and Am.

half an hour this morning and its down pat.

delighted with myself !

TonInDublin


Why not just transpose from the C F G Em Am version?
mortonjag 2007-07-15 15:36:45
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Jul 15 2007, 03:04 PM) [snapback]299725[/snapback]
Mmm... like most places the vast majority of people in Larkfield are decent enough, just the usual group of neds that drag down the reputation of the place... but then they are almost everywhere. The formerly highly thought of 'West End' is crawling with them.

Was brought up in a council house in Larkfield, son of a college lecturer and part of a family brought up there that went on to feature a partner in a legal firm, teacher, accountant and health professional... my family being far from unique, plenty of others brought up in council houses there have gone on to do very well.

Annoying to read ignorant statements like the above.


I don't think MidTONs was being ignorant-just provocative-and he got the response!

I was just thinking about this thread-I'm sure Barbarossa had no hidden agenda. How long will it take for some paranoid chip on the shoulder creep to discover one? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-15 15:59:08 Only allow in folk who have already arranged employment [ 5 ] ** [12.82%]
Stop immigration altogether [ 14 ] ** [35.90%]
Deport all non-citizens claiming benefit [ 10 ] ** [25.64%]
Other-please discuss [ 10 ] ** [25.64%]

Interesting to note that of the small number who voted a significant majority wanted to stop immigration altogether.

26% chose the 'OTHER' option, which I included to avoid accusation of bias, and on which I invited suggestions.

Surprisingly the same percentage want to deport all non-citizens claiming benefit.

As is the case elsewhere I opted for free immigration to those who have arranged employment.

Nowhere in the poll is there a mention of religion or ethnicity.

Mortonjag already had to ride the 'pape basher' bronco and stayed firmly in the saddle.

Another lot is now attempting to blacken his name.

Why?

I don't do hidden agendas-I just call it as I see it.

Why are they afraid to discuss an issue which affects every one of us to a greater or lesser degree?

mortonjag 2007-07-15 16:17:50 I guess it's much harder to predict accurately for opposition clubs-there are so many variables-this time last year I thought Raith would give us a run for our money, and imagined Ayr might have done a lot better over the season.

The scary thing for Ton fans at the moment is that we just DON'T KNOW what team is likely to run onto the park on August 4th. I think that's utterly reprehensible-I wouldn't care if we had assurances of two or three key signings in the pipeline, but the apparently DELIBERATE treatment of the paying public during this closed season is commercially a potential disaster.

It may have seemed legitimate to complain about 'boo boys' and 'negativity' when we were still heading towards promotion.

That is history. We were promised SPL football thereafter-if it's to be delivered by pre arranged plan over two or three seasons-let's hear the script.

I imagine we'll have some kind of statement from Mr Rae in the forthcoming week-hopefully there may still be some good news.

mortonjag 2007-07-15 16:21:00
QUOTE(GMC @ Jul 15 2007, 02:29 PM) [snapback]299718[/snapback]
Oh well, maybe we should try Templeman out in defence then. huh.gif


I wouldn't-but who knows! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-15 16:59:27
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 15 2007, 04:43 PM) [snapback]299745[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif

A really pish midfielder?

We could sign Stevie Whalen back, they're about the same level.


Where do you get your information from-you seem to get to one HELLUVALOTTA matches-what a man-I compute you take in well over 100 per season.

With such wisdom and encyclopaedic knowledge you clearly deserve a senior executive position in Scottish football.

BTW, when will you be 23?
mortonjag 2007-07-15 17:08:36
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jul 15 2007, 04:57 PM) [snapback]299748[/snapback]
Yes shame on McInally for not publicly announcing his starting line up for the season one week into preseason.


We don't know what team is LIKELY to start on August 4th as we still don't have a f*cking clue if the signings are over or just started.

Rae is treating us like muppets, and shooting himself in the foot with his own arrogant aloofness-that is REPREHENSIBLE.

You seem to disagree-nothing wrong with that ratarse-but you're now in the minority.

Seems the 'boo boys', and 'negativity merchants' got some of it right after all!
mortonjag 2007-07-15 17:11:56
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 15 2007, 05:04 PM) [snapback]299750[/snapback]
While people quite rightly have their own favoured players and have plenty of ideas based on their own knowledge of Scottish football, IMO it's difficult for us to put ourselves in the boss's shoes. He probably has agents calling him all the time and scouting at his disposal (on the plus side) and knows which players cannot move due to contractual reasons or personal circumstances (on the minus side.) So you can't really expect a punter and a manager to have interchangable ideas.


According to NewTON his 'phone is 'broke'-or is that Shoogly-I get confused at times!
mortonjag 2007-07-16 06:21:21
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 15 2007, 11:10 PM) [snapback]299865[/snapback]
As ever, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I'm assuming you are replying to MJ, but as I have him on ignore I don't know. For the record I am Ton In Dublin because at the time (10 years ago) that was easier to explain and I couldn't be arsed explaining the minutiae. I have never lived in Dublin, or indeed County Dublin. I have never, nor do I plan to be , part of Dublin. I have similar thoughts as most of the people who know about MY environment on the Dubs. And that's not 1 million miles away from the last few posters thoughts. Some of them, indeed a lot of them, are terribly and completely anti-British - no arguments here.
Strange, given that they were the last county to lower the Union Flag after the war.

In balance though, in Kildare and most of the other 32 counties (other than Dublin) there has been and always will be a Ceud Mille Failte for you all.

And that, I bet ..... will be the experience of the majority ..... same way as it would be in Scotland..... IMHO.

TonInDublin



He means he has me 'on hold'-he'll be back for more-the resurrection is imminent!

TiD the definitive rose garden pragmatist! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-16 06:29:02
QUOTE(weeleebin @ Jul 15 2007, 09:07 PM) [snapback]299805[/snapback]
spittal obviously


Now what would a 12 year old Morton supporter know about Spittal-was that just a misfired pun or do you know that good old Spittal's reputation's plummetted recently-AND it's only a mile down the road from the 'Mulk'. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-16 06:30:38
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 15 2007, 05:58 PM) [snapback]299765[/snapback]
Dowanhill.



Nae 'corpies' in Dowanhill DE as you very well know! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-16 06:33:21
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 16 2007, 01:05 AM) [snapback]299894[/snapback]
i'd never live in paisley, and fantapants feels the same way about greenock. i want to live in cowal.


You missed the boat!

12 years ago Dunoon house prices were a complete steal-now they're back up to average for that type of location.

Cowal's underestimated by so many-but you DO need the weather to really enjoy it. sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-16 06:47:33 Can my partner join MidTONs-Mairi Dalglish-part time Ton supporter


275!
mortonjag 2007-07-16 06:54:15
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 15 2007, 05:38 PM) [snapback]299757[/snapback]
Speaking as someone far away from the happy-clapy brigade, I'm not the least bit bothered that we don't know the lineup. That's one of the things that pre-season games are for.

If we (or more importantly Jim) doesn't know the lineup the week before the league season kicks off, I'll worry, but he's got several pre season games to test various options and see how sharp/fit various players are. I'd far rather see him use these games to the full than doggedly choose a team now and stick with it.

The scary thing for Ton fans at the moment is that we just DON'T KNOW what team is likely to run onto the park on August 4th. I think that's utterly reprehensible-I wouldn't care if we had assurances of two or three key signings in the pipeline, wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-16 07:04:20
QUOTE(axeman @ Jul 15 2007, 09:12 PM) [snapback]299807[/snapback]
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Well Done Jimmy Mac
I'd just like to say a big congratulations to Jim McInally & Martin Clark for the win. They had the boys playing brilliantly today & also made some great changes both in tactics & personnel at the right times.

They've taken some stick since they came here, but today a whole team grew up & showed just what they are capable of. It was great to see, after so many disappointing times in the last 20-odd yearswhen we've got a good crowd to a match then not delivered.

But today we not only beat SPL opponents, we outplayed SPL opponents & by God wasn't it special biggrin.gif

When Big Sanny, the Honey Monster, rammed in that 2nd goal from the area where Big Andy did his magic in the Cup versus Aberdeen, we were unstoppable.

So credit to the players, the boss, the backroom people & most especially our fantastic crowd today. When we all pull together we're one scary bunch of b*****ds to the opposition.

Let's all keep it going. There's a lot more good times ahead.



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mortonjag 2007-07-16 07:13:01
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 16 2007, 01:17 AM) [snapback]299897[/snapback]
i'd agree with all that. we can complain, but he'll be chairman of morton until the day he dies. there is one thing in his favour, and it's a very big thing - he is a real morton fan, which is so much better than the alternative it's unreal.

also his 'programme notes' make me 'laugh', 'on occasion'.

The understatement of many seasons I'd imagine LCM. laugh.gif

My biggest disappointment was actually meeting Shoogly in the flesh-he talks AT you-asks questions which he then answers before you can open your mouth, and is full of meaningless cliches.


I'd hesitate to call him a 'dullard'-if the current crisis is anything to go on, he needs some extra cash and might attempt to sue!
mortonjag 2007-07-16 07:23:09 Is this the missing piece in the jigsaw-Gretna have been attempting to 'rationalise' their playing policy by replacing some of their experienced players.

Has Shoogly's silence just been that of a parent before Christmas?

Maybe we're about to sign a couple of Gretna rejects!

Who knows-maybe they're about to sign a couple of our weans!
mortonjag 2007-07-16 10:16:03
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 16 2007, 09:47 AM) [snapback]299941[/snapback]
Not sure about the ones who say they beat me, would love to see the proof but I knew last night I would be beaten after I typed in Scott Lithgows name, he score an impressive 275.


DALGLEISH is four points more than DALGLISH-279!!
mortonjag 2007-07-16 10:54:00
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 16 2007, 10:35 AM) [snapback]299952[/snapback]
Mairi Dalglish - 275

Whit was yer score mortonjag ?


Well unsurprisingly morton jag returned zilch


MORTON PEARCE = 11

my own haunle = 25

or 42 if I use my alternative first name

(they used to be called Christian names when I was christened sprinkled on the head by some long since dead Minister who imagined I'd end up a good person)
mortonjag 2007-07-16 11:13:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 16 2007, 10:27 AM) [snapback]299950[/snapback]
252 -must try harder

Well you beat JM by one!

Arthur Montford scores a measly 16, while the Laurel and Hardy pair get a total of 7 between them sad.gif

Greacen is not a surname it would appear-that confirms why it always comes over club tannoys as greeshin, greeken, or something similar!


....and yer pal Crawford humped you at 269 but Shoogles only managed 229!
mortonjag 2007-07-16 11:24:40
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 16 2007, 10:31 AM) [snapback]299951[/snapback]
Maybe he should join this forum, then he'll be in the company of many who are like-minded.

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Oh he MUST be hiding behind one of those lovely names DE!

mortonjag 2007-07-16 11:45:05
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Jul 16 2007, 11:31 AM) [snapback]299966[/snapback]
So curious to know what your name is now!? I put in Hamish MacDonald and it only scored 260...

Personally a 198 for myself.


What's up Doc?

Robert Burns and Walter Scott only get 173 between them!
mortonjag 2007-07-16 11:48:51
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 16 2007, 11:40 AM) [snapback]299967[/snapback]
Ok then, how about Balmoral or Hollyrood? I wouldn't fancy the neighbours.


Nae corpies there either-though Holyrood's full of ex cooncillors-who may once have occupied cooncil hooses, and Balmoral's a Palace of farts.
mortonjag 2007-07-16 11:54:23
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 13 2007, 11:06 PM) [snapback]299233[/snapback]
god clearly was a newspaper headline writer and not a statistician



This story appeared in the Greenock Telegraph: Saturday, 14th July, 2007
‘Terrorist slur of Sheriff'’

by Tristan Stewart-Robertson

SHERIFF Rajni Swanney.

A MAN branded a Greenock sheriff a ‘terrorist’, it has been alleged.

Wesley Phillips, of no fixed abode, is charged with acting in a racially aggravated manner which caused alarm or distress to Sheriff Rajni Swanney, pictured.

The 25-year-old allegedly shouted, swore and called her a ‘terrorist’ on 11 July during an appearance on another charge at the sheriff court.

Derek Buchanan represented Mr Phillips, whose case was heard in private and who made no plea or declaration. He was committed for further examination. No application for bail was made to Sheriff Michael Anderson and he was remanded in custody.


Imagine calling the Sheriff a 'terrorist'-he obviously wanted a nice comfy pad for a few months!
mortonjag 2007-07-16 12:16:47
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 16 2007, 11:54 AM) [snapback]299971[/snapback]
Are you sure ? I heard the folk that stay there are immigrants that sponge off the state.


Well bless my soul-where did you come by that information DE-those things don't happen in the real world.
mortonjag 2007-07-16 12:18:29
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 16 2007, 12:00 PM) [snapback]299974[/snapback]
Me and a mate pulled a couple of shadies in Glasgow a few years ago and ended up in a house in Drumchapel. The house was very nice, with a driveway and everything. The burds weren't so nice but ho hum.

Anyway, I think the worst place would be the Dumbarton/Alexandria area. Complete s***hole, as is Balloch, despite it's tourist friendly image.

Couple o' RENTon boys eh BH?
mortonjag 2007-07-16 13:03:45
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 16 2007, 12:19 PM) [snapback]299980[/snapback]
You're patter's nearly as bad as me ole' cobber Newton.


Don't worry I'm working on it!
mortonjag 2007-07-16 13:07:58
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Jul 16 2007, 12:25 PM) [snapback]299982[/snapback]
Change it to Mairi McKelvie and get a rating of 284... problem solved.


Funnily enough Mhairi McKelvie only gets 280! blink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-16 13:10:32
QUOTE(moneton!!! @ Jul 16 2007, 12:50 PM) [snapback]299985[/snapback]
210 for me

Barney Gumble

Scores zero!!!
mortonjag 2007-07-16 13:12:27
QUOTE(giz @ Jul 16 2007, 01:08 PM) [snapback]299994[/snapback]
Sorry to put this outwith the travel notes but we (MSC) have 14 seats left for the bus on wednesday leaving at 3.30pm

Anyone interested call John on 07909 997071

Costs are £8/£6


I can understand why the single's so dear relatively speaking!
mortonjag 2007-07-17 05:34:33
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 16 2007, 01:24 PM) [snapback]299998[/snapback]
It's no big secret. The Mister is a Greek, the Missus is a German. They've got gaffs all over Britain, giro drops the lot of them I'm sure.


Aye but they had 'jobs' to come to. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-17 05:45:21 I'm not keen on this idea of birching-ok it's 'cost effective' but each new punishment would require a brand new birch to avoid the spread of AIDS and other germs so it's still public money wasted.

Bring back the chain gangs and teach the c*nts some useful work for the first time in their lives.
mortonjag 2007-07-17 05:56:38
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 17 2007, 04:58 AM) [snapback]300251[/snapback]
Gidday Manky,

My lass in Bristol got her gear.

So yours should be in the west end, mate.

biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


Your lass has gears in her Bristols Newt-she sounds like a real 'goer'.

Just being knotty to boost my poll count-I'm on a promise when I reach 10,000, but not saying what it is yet.

Oh I might as well-JM's giving me an autographed copy of 'The cure for bi-temporal hemianopsia'. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-17 06:04:10
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Jul 16 2007, 04:25 PM) [snapback]300073[/snapback]
Taking this question literally I would say his biggest disappointment since taking control has been a percieved 'lack' of support from Morton fans. Whether rightly or wrongly I think he believes what he is doing is for the long term good of the club - improving the infrastructure, building a good young squad, slowly but surely improving the financial situation so that the club can eventually stand on it's own two feet.

Of course many may see this as not good enough, and too be fair have been a few obvious mistakes. In general though I would say we are moving in the right direction, not as fast as I had hoped, but we are getting there. A definite 6-7 out of 10

smile.gif ScotinBelgie


It's pretty obvious the jury's out at the moment. Seven or eight games into next season will be verdict time I'd guess. If we're pleasantly surprised-great.

If the opposite's true he's in for a rough ride, no matter how good his intentions are.

Cliches spring to mind! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-17 06:10:57
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jul 16 2007, 04:08 PM) [snapback]300069[/snapback]
Why, is it some sort of medical condition? tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2007-07-17 06:15:17 Whatever happened to the 'Main Man' almost everybody agreed we need?

Is it indeed McAnespie, aided and abetted by Spoonsy in midfield?

Brighton would be an excellent signing-he is NEVER a priority.
mortonjag 2007-07-17 06:19:25
QUOTE(nani @ Jul 16 2007, 07:38 PM) [snapback]300138[/snapback]
"Utterly reprehensible"!!??!? What crap you talk mate...we've made 3 signings....and will probably make a couple more.....therefore even a tube like you should be able to work out what the team is likely to be....



Have you been introduced to Ham Cam yet, Nani?
mortonjag 2007-07-17 06:21:17
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 16 2007, 11:28 PM) [snapback]300228[/snapback]
Would'nt it be best if we had our signings so that he could experiment with them pre-season. As things stand, if no one is signed this week, we won't have the option to see them before it matters.


Don't be so naive-he's going to sign four new players (all with previous SPL experience or above) on August 3rd, and field them against the Bully Wee.

No flies on JM!
mortonjag 2007-07-17 06:23:11
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 17 2007, 02:10 AM) [snapback]300240[/snapback]
Yep, of course it would. But:
So sayeth Jim McInally.

I agree totally that we should be sorted - or nearly sorted - by now, squadwise, but I'm not worried about what's going to happen with the squad we have (if that makes sense...)

It doesn't unless you're a masochist.
mortonjag 2007-07-17 06:25:21
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 16 2007, 02:04 PM) [snapback]300020[/snapback]
Millar and Stevenson scored. Dont know the starting line up but there was about 5 players missing through injury listed on a story on my blog.

edit to add : MacGregor, McAnespie , Templeman and Linn were the players missing


Clearly Dundee Uni's shut for the holidays! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-17 06:29:33 I wish I could say I have Hal Stewart's hat-I'm afraid I'm only left with memories of a time when going to Cappielow was genuinely thrilling.
mortonjag 2007-07-17 06:32:12
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 16 2007, 07:24 PM) [snapback]300133[/snapback]
Never - powers at B will reset his count ph34r.gif

I wish you would Bryan-that would at least get five or six pests off my back-well for a month or so! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-17 09:03:15
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 17 2007, 08:33 AM) [snapback]300280[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
If they've got jobs, they must be owing a few bob in income tax, never mind the amount of council tax on all those gaffs.


GAFFS?

Is that the same as b*****ds-or for the avoidance of doubt and OTT censorship-Baa's Turds?
mortonjag 2007-07-17 09:07:04
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jul 17 2007, 05:29 AM) [snapback]300252[/snapback]
I've just finished reading Becks autobigoraphy ''My side'' , I found it a thoroughly enjoyable read and I admire the guy , what he has achieved in the game and the respect he has from other players , managers and fans alike ; not any old footballer becomes captain of England. He also has a beautiful wife and family and isn't short of a few bob , so well done to him ; but I digress from the point of the TV programme being OTT ; people will watch though so there must be a market for the programme and that justifies it's broadcast.


Last time I checked he was monogamous.
mortonjag 2007-07-17 09:21:27
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jul 17 2007, 09:07 AM) [snapback]300286[/snapback]
They're more into buggery rather than financial fraud, are they not....

How is it some people get off with racism, religious bigotry, and homophobia in one little sentence?


wink.gif wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-17 10:02:24
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 17 2007, 09:37 AM) [snapback]300292[/snapback]
Drive along an American highway for long enough and you'll see a 'Sherrif's Gang' in chains and stripes doing forced labour. They also have a hard sentence system, some of the the most brutal prisons in the world and, in most states, capital punishment for homicide. All of these policies however have not combined to reduce their appalling crime rate.
In the short to medium term, we need more and better trained polis on the streets to catch the criminals. Once they are caught they should be given sentences that are far more appropriate, with no 'early' releases. In the longer term, we should be dealing with the underlying causes of crime, mainly the social dissipation that we see all around us. This will require a radical reform of the benefits system, investment in addiction rehabilitation and employment provision. In order to re-establish self esteem, social responsibility and peace on our streets , we need big carrots as well as big sticks, I think. More polis, more jails, rehab and job programmes etc., will cost money however, and for that we will need to review the tax system. I wonder if we have the political will to grasp all of these 'nettles'.


Have they run parallel experiments to prove this, or are you simply suggesting the crime rate has not gone down?

It was popularly accepted up until the sixties that the one thing the hardened criminal fraternity in Glasgow feared was being 'topped'.

Deterrence is still possible-IF it was popularly known that knife carrying would lead to automatic Draconian measures, most eejits would toe the line.
mortonjag 2007-07-17 10:05:12
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 17 2007, 09:57 AM) [snapback]300300[/snapback]
I think most of us chose to lump them in together, instead of the idea of 2 seperate entities! tongue.gif

At 'N' size they'd take some separation Puggs!
mortonjag 2007-07-17 10:16:01
QUOTE(NorgieTon @ Jul 17 2007, 09:58 AM) [snapback]300301[/snapback]
Darlington had a chairman who built a new stadium, which left a club with minimum supporters a massive debt.

In all of my many years Darlington only ever got up tp the third div, and are now where they belong in the 4th div by any other name.
Their old ground, which I visited approx 50 yrs ago, (Jeez am i that old) was a complete midden.

How anyone would prefer to play for them rather than the Ton, shows a complete lack of ambition or stupidity.

Well footballers do have their brains in their feet, haw haw laugh.gif

NorgieTon blink.gif



It isn't just Darlington who are being favoured Norgie-haven't you noticed the apparent reluctance of anyone to sign for us.

Another Cellic wean.

Another OF 'farm out' whom we'll not be able to afford in a year's time.

An Alloa player with a dubious history who may well see the Ton as his last chance saloon.


THAT'S IT.--well apart from rumours that we're chasing several juniors-probably won't get Tom Brighton, and that JM's 'phone's broke'.

Something rotten in the state of Denmark methinks. Not all footballers have their brains in their feet!
mortonjag 2007-07-17 11:16:57
QUOTE(NorgieTon @ Jul 17 2007, 10:39 AM) [snapback]300316[/snapback]
there does appear to be something smelly in the state of DENMARK, but then again , does he not play for the smeltic.

90% of good footballers have their brains in their feet, of course not Ton ones,

If this 17yr old from the mighty Smeltic is good play him, tallent will out.
Saw Don Masson make his debut at a muchhigher level at 17, same with Eric McMordie 17, Ian Gibson 17.

NorgieTon laugh.gif


I knew Willie Henderson and Wee Jinky personally Norgie-they didn't need palmed off to clubs in lower divisions either.

We've just finished a season where inexperience greatly hampered progress. Lessons, it would seem, have not been learned.
mortonjag 2007-07-17 11:23:24
QUOTE(Raving On @ Jul 17 2007, 10:57 AM) [snapback]300324[/snapback]
Alright folks,

I’m a Stirling Albion supporter requesting help for a project that I am currently well underway way, a Scottish football fanzine, “The Hampden Roarâ€, encompassing all aspects of the game from the top of the SPL to the junior and regional leagues. I will update the website on the first Tuesday of every month, although the projected launch date for the website is July 28th, the final Saturday of the close season.

A professionally built website is well into the development stage and to date there has been a fair degree of interest in the project, including from several websites who have been kind enough to allow me to use their pictures, but I have not widely publicised it until now. I am looking for contributors, writing about whatever aspect of the game takes their fancy, although obviously the more topical the better (I will try to ensure that a good selection and variety of stuff gets in every month). Articles can be opinionated or funny – take whatever angle you want. In addition to this I am looking for a supporter of each side to write a brief preview to their season (around 300-500 words) and/or be available to submit a referee rating each Monday (this would literally just be emailing me with a score from 1 to 10 – nothing tricky at all).

If you are interested in helping out, have any ideas or any questions on this unique project please get in touch with me… robin_binos@hotmail.com.

I look forward to hearing from you.


I'd volunteer, but about 250 words would be profane!
mortonjag 2007-07-17 11:26:43
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 17 2007, 10:11 AM) [snapback]300306[/snapback]
Have they run parallel experiments to prove this, or are you simply suggesting.......... biggrin.gif

Edit to add: Things haven't improved much in the US, according to these stats anyway. http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm

As I suspected DE-just numbers-no comparison of groups-proves very little to me except crime's going up.

My ex Father in Law was Barlinnie Chaplain for ten years DE-he personally hated capital punishment (witnessed the hanging of Manuel), but assured me the 'lads' as a whole avoided carrying lethal weapons on a 'job' for fear of being 'topped'.
mortonjag 2007-07-17 11:34:09
QUOTE(=BrIdO= @ Jul 17 2007, 11:10 AM) [snapback]300330[/snapback]
I'm not keen on this idea of birching-ok it's 'cost effective' but each new punishment would require a brand new birch to avoid the spread of AIDS and other germs so it's still public money wasted.

Surely there must be a way to disinfect the the birch for reuse?


Och-probably, and it would please the Greens with less Birch deforestation too-mind you they'd probably want us to use organically grown Birch.
mortonjag 2007-07-17 11:36:52
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Jul 17 2007, 11:16 AM) [snapback]300332[/snapback]
There's the stinger... London to Irkutsk (for example, big city in Eastern Siberia with the youngest average age of any city in Europe - loads of students, mainly female) - £490 return in the summer, or about £350 in the winter, which is actually better because all pubs/clubs are busier in the winter.. if you can take the cold.

Still, it's cheap when you get there... decent meal for fiver, drinks about £1.40 (in a good club). Never been anywhere like it for women though... has to be seen to be believed. Regulation dress for over 16 girls seems to be short skirt/dress and high heels... and in my two weeks there I saw a handful of girls that didn't have perfect figures (if you're overweight you have almost no chance of getting a guy... as it's about 3 women for every 2 guys).


Do you get to choose which extra half if you want a date without a male companion?
mortonjag 2007-07-17 11:42:28
QUOTE(nani @ Jul 17 2007, 11:21 AM) [snapback]300336[/snapback]
Just wondering if there is any prospect of McInally getting a bit of credit on this forum.....seems like he cant do anything right. He's criticised for his signings to date as they are not "name" players...yet he is also slagged off for wasting his time on trying to recruit Sutton and Mensing.
He's slagged off for the fact there is little speculation in the way of signings....then criticised for leaking details to papers of ones we missed out on.
McInally took over Morton when we had a selection of wasters and drinkers in the team...well paid ones to boot. Interestingly they have all but disappeared from football showing that Jim made the correct decisions to get rid. He gradually weeded them out and replaced them with younger, motivated professionals...missing out on promotion by a solitary point. In the last 2 seasons we have been extraordinarily consistent for a Morton team and have never been out the top two.....the team may not be the best we have ever had but is as committed as any, yet, McInally gets pilloried for everything he does.
Hows about you give the guy a break and assess the situation at the end of the season......my fear is that if we have a slow start then there will be the usual campaign to get rid of the manager......who knows maybe you all want Tom Hendrie/Ray Stewart/Allan Moore/Dick Campbell as the manager but I sure as f**k dont.....of course mebbe you deluded ones think Capello might fancy the job!
How about a bit of praise for the guy?


You're about as original and imaginative as the guy whose arse you're obviously up.

What you've just said is OLD HAT.

He told us he'd get us experience, and strengthen the squad in key areas-he HASN'T.

He almost f***ed up again last season-FACT.

Most of us said in May-'Give the guy a chance'-I for one haven't totally written him off, but to suggest all is well laugh.gif -good morning Mr Rae-how are Fudgy Wudgy sales?
mortonjag 2007-07-17 13:50:11
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jul 17 2007, 12:14 PM) [snapback]300353[/snapback]
He Hasn't YET .. Obviously up his arse .. Better than your head being up your own arse ...

He almost f***ed up last season ?? I hope he almost f***s up next season and we get Promoted AGAIN !!

We need to remember we are morton fans not OF fans .. this board is starting to sound like the OF .. WE SHOULD WIN THIS WE SHOULD SIGN HIM .. Get alife and get off peoples back !!


Indeed he did! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-17 13:51:57
QUOTE(Benny Boy @ Jul 17 2007, 12:29 PM) [snapback]300358[/snapback]
Good post nani.
[b]
Most people on here have no clue about football and no grasp of reality.
[/b]

We led the league from Day 1 last season ffs.

McInally and Martin Clark have done very well since they came to Cappielow.

rolleyes.gif

Which are you then-Crawford?
mortonjag 2007-07-17 13:53:26
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jul 17 2007, 12:44 PM) [snapback]300364[/snapback]
Agreed

Yes Jim & Martin have made mistakes (e.g. Subs at Stirling) but who hasn't.

In the main I agree that they have done well, as you say - we were at the top of the league for the entire season and won the league with a few games to spare.

Next season will be very hard for them, but they are gaining experience all the time and I beleive they will do well in the 1st. As has been posted in other thread's - if not Jim & Martin, who would you want?

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mortonjag 2007-07-17 13:56:10
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jul 17 2007, 01:12 PM) [snapback]300381[/snapback]
Oh dear.

Don't you know that if you show support for the directors, management or players then you are seen as being blind to their failings and therefore obviously a sycophant.

Don't come on here confusing the faceless moaning minority with facts. They will not "listen" to you. Instead you will encourage pages and pages of

"if only a knight in shining armour with vasts amount of money to burn, and would not want to have any input in the club, would buy out Mr Rae"

or

"McInally is just waiting to go back to Celtic, he doesn't care about the Ton"

or

"Dougie Rae didn't save Morton he just uses it as a tax dodge"

or the very popular

"lets have a poll, McInally should go yes or no" which results in a resounding no but doesn't stop some eejit starting another poll as soon as we draw at home.

Oh and don't criticise the faceless moaning minority because their the only ones that know what they are talking about on this board and they get very upset when you question their input. However I am clearly one of those previously mentioned sycophants that quite genuinely, with all the same facts as they have at my disposal, think the club (that we all love) is doing quite nicely but maybe I have a longer memory than most.

Queue the "we'll give him until Christmas brigade" and the "we are successful despite JM" that one always cracks me up, and my favourite "i have a right to my opinion" yeh yeh yeh but its wrong laugh.gif

Ok Arthur! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-17 14:01:31
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jul 17 2007, 01:13 PM) [snapback]300382[/snapback]
Great post! I think there is a lot of criticism just because people have a forum to post it on and like drawing a reaction.

I really fail to see how anyone can criticise the whole story since Jim has come in.

Sure not everything has been perfect but we have improved steadilly each season and I think have some great seasoned pro's who will be in a Morton shirt for a few years to come.


'We have improved steadily each season'-we've taken five bloody seasons to move up two pathetically poor divisions with massively superior resources ON PAPER.

'We have some great seasoned pros'-REALLY-would those be the ones who showed their guile in crucial away matches at Stirling and Kirkcaldy near the end of last season?

What are you getting from Santa Piehutt?
mortonjag 2007-07-17 14:02:46
QUOTE(Benny Boy @ Jul 17 2007, 01:34 PM) [snapback]300391[/snapback]
Well said Piehutt.

When you see muck the likes of what Lovedaddy posts ("McInally is a donkey.") it just makes you despair.

I think he was speaking figuratively-maybe suggesting he knows 'hee haw'.
mortonjag 2007-07-17 14:11:39
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jul 17 2007, 12:37 PM) [snapback]300362[/snapback]
MJ - So you think that where Morton are 7 or 8 games into season 2007/8 is verdict time for how
the Chairman has done since taking over the club??

Surely, up to now in most areas he has done very well, like the work done at Cappielow, money spent on draining system & playing surface. Money made availbale to strengthen the team and back room staff, setting up of training facilities, we are in the 1st Divioson etc.

So if we are 2nd bottom of the 1st Div 7 or 8 games in this season, he will have been bad for Morton??


The train seems to have hit the buffers there-what's the point in praising good facilities if poor football sends away the crowds-that's BAD, BAD business sense.
mortonjag 2007-07-17 14:18:09
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jul 17 2007, 01:08 PM) [snapback]300379[/snapback]
I wouldn't worry too much about this folks. At this stage in the season any kind of niggle will be treated with maximum caution.

I'd imagine that a lot of these 'injuries' would not keep these players out during the season.


You have some funny ideas. 'At this stage' the season hasn't even started, and you're suggesting that four players with 'NIGGLES' weren't risked in a bounce game where they could have come back off in two minutes if necessary and done no harm.

Saturday morning-it's a wee bounce game-and four don't appear.

Public announcement-'They're injured'-self induced injuries?
mortonjag 2007-07-17 14:20:05
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jul 17 2007, 01:15 PM) [snapback]300384[/snapback]
As for Coakley...

McInally's comments in the Tele sound promising and could be just what we are looking for as a replacement for McGowan.

Also interesting that McInally said they were prepared to pay for McGowan but felt that £100k was far too much. I agree... let him sit on the bench at Celtic U21 games.


Why do we need to replace an inexperienced midfielder?
mortonjag 2007-07-17 14:23:49
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jul 17 2007, 02:10 PM) [snapback]300407[/snapback]
MJ - You laugh at the fact that I said The Management team were gaining experience - what's so funny about that?


The fact that they don't appear to be LEARNING anything from it!
mortonjag 2007-07-17 14:28:32
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jul 17 2007, 02:15 PM) [snapback]300409[/snapback]
I know, why the Hell did we not win the Champions league in Jim's 2nd season, it's a bloody disgrace!! We should have pi$$ed all over the likes a pathetic Gretna, Partick, Raith & Stirling eh mortonjag!!


Taking Gretna out of the equation-we put on a disgraceful show against Peterhead that season in the play offs. That IMO was down to total ineptitude on the part of management. Partick were not that great and Campbell still got them promoted.

We were miles ahead of Stirling on paper last season. If Moore and JM had swopped places, we'd have romped the league IMO.
mortonjag 2007-07-17 14:33:22
QUOTE(bigstu22 @ Jul 17 2007, 02:22 PM) [snapback]300413[/snapback]
Great post Nani. Mortonjag-congratulations, you succeeded in getting some attention again. I made the mistake of taking you off 'ignore'. You really are a class f*d. Back to 'ignore' for you-goodbye.


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As far as I can see it is our latest addition to the blinkered wee boys club who's got himself some attention.

How in God's name does he think that at this stage in a crucial build up to our first division CAMPAIGN laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif , he's going to get any credibility for PRAISING JM.

At the moment most seem agreed that it's VERY scary.
mortonjag 2007-07-17 14:38:55
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jul 17 2007, 02:28 PM) [snapback]300418[/snapback]
So you think that Jim McInally & Martin Clark have learned nothing since taking over their first pro full team jobs? You honestly dont think they have gained experience in the past few seasons when trying different formations, and players in different positions. You dont think they have learned anything??


FFS they don't even know a right back from a striker, don't believe in natural full backs, haven't even heard of wingers, love two centre backs joined by an invisible umbilical cord, and think ten midfielders + 1 goalie = a football team.

I waited for a whole bloody season for the 'experience' to kick in-NOTHING changed.

JM came to us as a youth coach-I believe he could still get a job doing that somewhere.
mortonjag 2007-07-17 14:42:51
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jul 17 2007, 02:39 PM) [snapback]300429[/snapback]
Oh, I see we can take Gretna out of the equation, didn't realise that. God bet Hearts and Aberdeen fans wish they could take Rangers and Celtic out of theirs - they would be in the CL every year.

Yes we could of attaked more at home against Peterhead (We should not have had to play at home first), mistake by the management which I am sure they learned from. I thought we were unlucky away and only missed out be a penalty in the end.
IMO Stirling had a good team on paper and Morton won the league with a few games to spare. We will never know what would have happened if the Management Teams had swapped over but IMO the final positions would not have been that much different - as I am sure you know, it's not that easy leading from the front for the whole season, Moore had to spur on his team and fill them with a do or die attitude, whereas McInally had to ensure that we continued to pick up points in a steady manner.


...and was presumably instructed not to do it too quickly in case the fans lost interest!

You are a f*ckin' HOOT!!!
mortonjag 2007-07-17 14:46:32
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jul 17 2007, 02:24 PM) [snapback]300416[/snapback]
When did that happen - I must have missed it, as I though we had good crowds last season ??

MJ - as asked - do you think if Morton are 2nd bottom after 7 or 8 games (this was the point that the MJ verdict would be due) then the Chairman will have done poorly since he arrived?


Our crowds last season were significantly WORSE than the season before.

SHOOGLY was girnin' his face off about it in public!!!!!!

If Morton are 2nd bottom after 7 or 8 games then the Chairman's master plan will clearly be seen as the failed fumblings of a sweetie maker.
mortonjag 2007-07-17 14:51:39
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 17 2007, 12:02 PM) [snapback]300350[/snapback]
Aye, and I remember reading about the days when pickpockets were hanged in public, drawing huge crowds that were worked by more pickpockets. I think deterrence will increase in proportion to an increase in the probability of arrest and conviction leading to an appropriate prison term. As I said, more and better polis, better and more appropriate sentencing and more jails.


You seem to contradict my factual statement-obviously everything is relative-would you like a prison on every street corner DE?
mortonjag 2007-07-17 14:54:51
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jul 17 2007, 12:23 PM) [snapback]300355[/snapback]
Does anyone think that hanging should be brought back in?


In a VERY small number of cases, and where guilt is proven beyond any reasonable doubt-


YES


for your asb neighbour Weegie-naw! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-17 15:00:20
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Jul 17 2007, 12:36 PM) [snapback]300360[/snapback]
No MJ...dont bother with the idea of having a new one each time!!! why should we if the idea was put into use? Eh? Becuase these scum obviously dont/cant think...too hard for them..I'd leave it covered in the blood from the previous ar5ehole who had been flogged....why should we give a moments thought to them? they dont even hasitate for a second in front or behind innocent people whos lives they steal, destroy and take away from others.

This country needs to make a stand, and an example....I would have the next bandit who does this set alight, douse him out, then have him stretched, hung drawn and quartered over a period of days...not allowing them to sleep...every scream they let out would merit ripping into a piece of his rancid flesh using the blade he himself used...

Or we could have them used for new drug experiments...ones we know arent safe and may slowely and agonisingly kill its subject....

You're a hard man Vader-you're giving me second thoughts-straight through the humane giant human mincer-dead meat in ten seconds-they'd hardly have time to squeak.

Excellent garden fertiliser.
mortonjag 2007-07-17 15:04:14
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jul 17 2007, 02:48 PM) [snapback]300440[/snapback]
Mwhahahahaaa ph34r.gif

Ye cannae hurt me-so ye cannae! tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-17 15:12:44
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 17 2007, 02:50 PM) [snapback]300442[/snapback]
what does experience have to do with someone needing replacing? mcgowan was our 2nd top scorer last season and played a huge part in us winning the league and a good cup run. are you saying because that was his first season playing proffessional football that we dont need to replace those goals or input?

maybe youre correct. maybe we need someone.....anyone infact thats over 26 because theyve played a few years so surely theyll be good enough to achieve what paul achieved with us last season. sounds like reasonable logic blink.gif


It seems to have been written somewhere in stone that McGowan was the architect of our promotion.

I have memories of a wee guy with a perpetually pained expression frequently running about in ever decreasing circles, or trying to walk the ball into the net. I'll never forget that first home game against Ayr. A wee guy who was paraded week after week without a single goal (9 if I recollect).

Sure- I also remember some inspiring displays of mature ball control and vision, but he's FAR from the finished article, and will never be a 'striker'.

REPLACE means what is says -put back what was there before-NO THANKS-we need experience.
mortonjag 2007-07-17 15:57:16
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 17 2007, 03:28 PM) [snapback]300463[/snapback]
well if thats the case then our whole team needs " replaced ". just about every single player had a spell where they werent at the top of their game at some point, as happens in most teams. they still won us promotion fairly comfortably and wether you like it or not paul mcgowan was a major part in that and i for one would be happy to have him back or have someone who does exactly what he did for us last season.

if he was the finished article do you really think we'd have a chance to sign him? we're in the scottish first division. not one player in this division is the finished article yet or is never going to be the finished article. we're a newly promoted side content with making sure we stay in the division. id rather have a " attacking midfielder " playing up front that scores nearly 20 goals in a season than your definition of a striker that gets us 10. unless you know of any finished article penalty box strikers thats willing to come to morton and score 40 goals a season for us?


Disagree-plenty of 'over the hill' players have graced the 'First' having had outstanding careers.

I see 'Flight' claims he's signed-fascinated to find out if that's some sick joke or another crazy piece of expenditure.

As I've said, I'd welcome Gowser back, but he is NEVER a prioroity.
mortonjag 2007-07-17 16:01:50
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jul 17 2007, 03:15 PM) [snapback]300458[/snapback]
WHAT - in our 1st season back in the 1st division, after 7 or 8 games, thats it - voting day on how well the Chairman has done !. You've really have shown yourself up as someone with very little footbal knowledge this time - unbelievable!!!


Let's get serious for a minute! laugh.gif

Shoogly's 78 years of age and has promised us SPL football-he claims Morton's his baby 'til he 'pops his clogs'.

If we're propping up the first Division after six years of his master plan, he must be expecting to live 'til he's 150.

Come to think of it-nothing would surprise me! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-17 16:11:39
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jul 17 2007, 03:07 PM) [snapback]300450[/snapback]
So the fact that Spoonsy won so many man of tea match awards in the full back and mid field rolls means that the Manager was stupid to play him there? Not sure I follow your thinking here.

Would you rather the Center halves roamed all over the park then?

MJ, you are, as we all are, entitled to your opinion - but to add the "FFS He does not know a full back from a Striker" comment says it all to me.

I like a bit of banter as much as the next man but I am affraid I think I will have to join the ever growing "ignore mortonjag community". It really is a pity that you put so much enery into putting forward points relating to things you Think may be going wrong, or that Seem to be going wrong etc etc. I dont really remeber that much constructive criticism from you.

I have followed the Ton for many a year and was so happy when we gained promotion to the 1st Division, but you seem intent on looking for all things negative, prior to a new season in a new division. Yes people should not stick their heads in the sand, and constructive suggestions as to how to improve things are helpful. But by the same token a bit of positivity can go a long way.

You have "had a go" at the Chairman & Manager on many occasion and yet I really dont remember you listing the possible replacements (sorry if I have missed these posts).

Me, I am a Morton fan pure and simple - I think we have come a long way in a relatively short period of time, I think the Chairman & Manager have done a reasonably good job compared to other teams of our size (considering where we were when the Chairman joined). Yes we could do with a bigger squad and I hope that happens before the window closes.

Enjoy the new season mj - if thats possible.


You and your ilk Mack occasionally get on my tits with your repetitive lies about my comments.

I've repeatedly suggested Rae should take a 'side step' and appoint a director of football-salaried but with full delegated responsibility for the football side of things.

I've repeatedly said it's not up to me to nominate a successor to JM-I'd leave that to the said director of football, though there are plenty of candidates -of that I'm certain.

I'd suggest those have been perfectly constructive comments.

The trouble is Mack, that most of the criticisms of my comments are just the blinkered views of folk who are happy with second best.
mortonjag 2007-07-17 16:13:00
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jul 17 2007, 03:11 PM) [snapback]300454[/snapback]
sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif Are you seriously suggesting that I am Arthur Montford?

Or is it your pathetic attitude that one must be a Morton board director to support the Morton board.


Well-are you?
mortonjag 2007-07-17 16:21:14
QUOTE(CJTon @ Jul 17 2007, 03:32 PM) [snapback]300464[/snapback]
At last a decent positive post on this site. I have a look at this site on a regular basis and also cannot believe the negativity that goes around.

We should be looking forward to the new season in a higher division. When last were we in the first division?

The last thing the chairman would wish is for us to drop back to the backwaters of the second division. I am sure and know that there is a lot of hard work going on in all areas to ensure that the coming season is a relatively successful one.

Obviously to encourage season ticket sales there should be some sort of carrot for the fans but remember the money available is not limitless. I too hope that there may be another striker signed as there is still plenty of time before the season starts. All very well seeing other clubs picking up what appear to be semi-decent journeymen and wondering why we are not doing the same but most of these clubs have released a huge number of players and are having to build up a squad again.

Our squad has had a full season together all be it at a lower level but when asked to step up a level they were able to do it on several ocassions. We have some good boys in our starting eleven who will be very keen to prove that they can stick it a higher level. Nobody doubted their ability when we beat St Johnstone and Kilmarnock and I know these were one off ties but try and look at these from a positive perspective.

Come on guys lets start getting a bit more positive about the coming season and get behind the lads. We are all in this together and hopefully progress will be made.

Why don't people start to look forward to the new season.


Well you kind of spoiled your own very reasonable post by that first silly and emotive comment.

Do you imagine that the repeated indecent negativity is part of some evil plan?

Rae and McInally are looking more pathetic as the days run into months of closed season.

Is this MASTERLY inactivity?

Is there indeed some secret surprise awaiting?

Surely even you can see, CJ, that there's very little change from the squad who stumbled over the finishing line last season.

I would just LOVE to be able to say something positive. I thought McAnespie was a reasonable signing, but never imagined that would be IT. sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-17 16:26:07
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 17 2007, 04:04 PM) [snapback]300471[/snapback]
yes but over the hill players are on their way back down. if they were still capable of playing at a higher level then they would be.
i think he may be talking about adam coakley. after all the thread is about him, kind of went off topic a little laugh.gif




Refresh my memory now-is that the same Coakley whom Shoogly claimed he wasn't interested in-a young inexperienced forward whose Uncle is about 50 times more wealthy than Mr Rae, and seemingly knows something about delegation? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-18 06:37:29
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 17 2007, 02:42 PM) [snapback]300433[/snapback]
For goodness sake, he's a doctor, in fact worse, a retired doctor. Surely you know that they are the font of all knowledge about any subject you care to mention. As for running a football club, you must know that even though Jim has all these coaching certificates and practical experience, being a doctor qualifies him to a far greater extent to know how to run a football club as it does all things in life!

For goodness sake, get a grip man and bow to your superiors!!

Me, I am also of such low intellect that I actually think that Messrs Rae and McInally have done a decent job - not superlative - but overall decent.

Cue abusive remarks!!


If suggesting that one of the poorest examples of sarcasm I've read for a long time demeans a man of your intellect is abusive Tonsilitis- you've cued successfully.

One point of fact-it's generally accepted that Doctors are better equipped in personality assessment and clinical diagnosis than most other professionals.

What makes you think, as a vastly experienced financial guru, that 'coaching certificates' entitle him to 'run a football club'?

As you very well know G.P.'s are self employed businessmen.

Poor shot Sir!!! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-18 06:41:10
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jul 17 2007, 04:16 PM) [snapback]300477[/snapback]
Let me spell it out for you.

N O


TY!
mortonjag 2007-07-18 06:44:24
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jul 17 2007, 04:29 PM) [snapback]300480[/snapback]
Spot on. Some folk on here are never happy though!
Not quite true on that count. Under Jim we have progressively improved with our league finishings with each season. Only Gr£tna and the play-offs denied us last year and this year, we got promoted as champions, hardly as you put it "f***ing things up!"
Me too!
To be honest I don't really read the board anymore because the pre-season chat is so negative and instead of being excited that we are back up where most fans believe we belong after some troublesome times in the last decade or so, folk are moaning! I'm delighted that we are back mixing it with the big boys again in what I think will prove to be by far the most exciting and unpredictable league in Scotland. I think the fact that there are some on here who post continuously, it makes each day seem more like a week in terms of folk wanting news and they are therefore getting restless. If people want a daily run-down of what is going on at pre-season training and in the board-room, get in contact with the club and I'm sure they would arrange a wee day out for you all!



Ask Newton about that! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-18 06:45:54
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jul 17 2007, 04:29 PM) [snapback]300481[/snapback]
I totally agree Mortonw@nk sorry mortonjag

Moving spoonsy from striker to fullback where he won numerous man of the match awarsd scored 18 goals was a total joke
With each of you insnae ammount of posts you seem less a true ton supporter .. I reckon you are truely a skunk in disguise



Tunes that go round in my head-when did I first hear this one? dry.gif


mortonjag 2007-07-18 06:49:51
QUOTE(CJTon @ Jul 17 2007, 04:46 PM) [snapback]300492[/snapback]
Not sure how my initial comment was "silly". There may be a bit of emotion in there as I have explained but is a view from reading this website that there is a lot of negativity around (maybe only from a few people who post the majority of the time) and it frustrates me a little as it does a lot of people at the club.

I do believe the squad will be further strengthened by the time we meet Clyde at Cappielow in our first league game. If you know the chairman he won't be sitting back doing nothing and just remember JM has a huge number of contacts in the footballing world so be patient.

I don't believe we stumbled over the finish line. Yes the last few games once the league was won may have given people that impression but our results at the end of the season are very much on a par with when a team has won the league.....look at Celtic and even Man U once they had won their respective leagues. It is natural to take the foot of the gas. Were all the managers in the 2nd division wrong with there comments that we were way ahead of the rest in terms of footballing ability and we proved that by winning the league. Stirlings form was exceptional last season and that is why they ran us as close as they did

We won the league with games in hand. That is not bad and that was the aim.

You should consider that when St Mirren last got promoted to the SPL they were favourites to be relegated from the 1st division so maybe there is a *potential ethnic slur removed* of hope that we will do okay and remember Thistle survived and challenged for a bit last season with a relatively poor squad of players.

We have players at our club that others would love to have - Stevenson, Weatherson, McAllister (remember the comments made by Sheff U after the friendly last season).

Please just have some faith that we are going to have an exciting season and hopefully we can look back and say what were people worried about.


What a pleasure to read a reasonably informed and civilised post!
Why don't you speak to NewTON regarding the highlighted part though? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-18 06:51:55
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jul 17 2007, 04:49 PM) [snapback]300493[/snapback]
To be honest I think that Spoonsy would be best playing in central midfield, but you'd struggle to get a striker scoring 18 goals a season standing on the penalty spot, never mind a full-back, so for me we got the best of both worlds.
Apparently!
Email the club with a CV then. It would seem that you know exactly what is wrong with every aspect of the club and how to fix it, I'm sure they would welcome you with open arms and we'd be in the SPL in no time!

Seriously though, I agree that in an ideal world it would be good to have a director of football to reduce the management's administrative burdens, but there just isn't enough money. Also, a lot of football managers aren't keen on the idea of someone upstairs meddling in team affairs.



There just isn't enough money, yet Shoogly says all is in order-that doesn't add up in my book.
mortonjag 2007-07-18 06:59:11
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jul 17 2007, 09:06 PM) [snapback]300538[/snapback]
No it doesn't. It means to put in place of what's there. It could be said he is being replaced by someone with more experience or indeed less experience. When will you give up with your "he's not a striker" rubbish?

re·place (r-pls)
tr.v. re·placed, re·plac·ing, re·plac·es
1. To put back into a former position or place.
2. To take or fill the place of.
3. To be or provide a substitute for.
4. To pay back or return; refund. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-18 07:02:44
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jul 17 2007, 09:30 PM) [snapback]300543[/snapback]
Mortonjag talks bollocks in thread shocker.

Let's just see how many injuries we get during the season. I think Jim works really hard on the fitness of players and consequently we have very few injuries.

Of course you wouldn't risk an injury in a bounce game. You can tell as you are warming up if you have an injury and if it's worth risking.

Don't you play football?

Not very well now young Sir.

It's down to the usual media spin anyway. If they had stated that four players were 'a shade off peak fitness'-then fine, but where the hell did the four pick up 'injuries' before even kicking a ball competitively?
mortonjag 2007-07-18 07:09:13
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 18 2007, 12:38 AM) [snapback]300602[/snapback]
I take it you also remember him floating past three players at Forfar and putting one in the top corner or his sublime curling effort to win the cup tie against St. Johnstone in the last minute or popping up in the box to score from Jim McAlister's cut back against Kilmarnock. Those are the sort of things that would stick out in the mind of any Morton fan who didn't always think in the negative.

You'd think that you would start to realise that you are about the only person who doesn't think McGowan is a 'striker' and could actually possibly be wrong.


There's very little point in disputing this with you JonaTon-I'm almost three times your age, and my definition of a 'striker' is that commonly accepted in the days of guys like McGraw, Harper, -even McGhee and Jordan.

Why should I change my definition to suit the average age of the forum.

Let's just put it this way- if your all time favourite football manager was chatting to you about Gowser, and described him as a talented playmaker who scores some excellent goals-but NOT a striker-what would you think?
mortonjag 2007-07-18 07:10:34
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 17 2007, 09:31 PM) [snapback]300544[/snapback]
Men against boys springs to mind unsure.gif

MORE NEGATIVITY

mortonjag 2007-07-18 07:15:28
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 17 2007, 11:47 PM) [snapback]300584[/snapback]
The question needs to be asked why he chose Dunfermline after our alleged initial interest.


SEDITION
mortonjag 2007-07-18 07:20:48
QUOTE(BluebirdTon @ Jul 18 2007, 12:15 AM) [snapback]300592[/snapback]
Pete Doherty's(Babyshambles) manager was saying in the albert tonight that he phoned Cappielow about getting Pete a Morton top to be pictured in,being a QPR fan hoops connection etc.He phoned Cappielow and they,without question gave a straight no.Seems quite cheesy but this could have been a great opertunity to get a bit of publicity for the club.

Gives the impression that our club dont really care unsure.gif

What are the details? Surely he can afford one and just get the fotie took!

Most likely they wanted one for free in return for the publicity-and I've got mixed feelings there-some claim bad publicity's better than none, and the poor old TON ain't much in the news those days.
mortonjag 2007-07-18 07:28:38 Where are all the informed gentlemen then?

Does nobody have any original thoughts on this one?

It wouldn't surprise me if Gretna made an offer for Millar in exchange for somebody.

Hee Hee-I await responses! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-18 07:33:51
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 17 2007, 06:15 PM) [snapback]300514[/snapback]
What was that?

EH?
mortonjag 2007-07-18 07:42:04
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jul 17 2007, 08:06 PM) [snapback]300529[/snapback]
By definition everyone convicted of murder has had their guilt proven 'beyond all reasonable doubt' as that's the measure juries are instructed to use to help them reach their verdict, so your suggestion is patently unworkable and illogical.


Did you read what I wrote?

I'm well aware of the current legal position.

Did I say at any time that the current legislation would be implemented as it stands?

Clearly new definitions would be applied.

Megrahi was convicted 'beyond reasonable doubt'-they f*cked up well and truly (I have intricate knowledge of this case).

When I say 'beyond reasonable doubt' I'm not sure I'd just rely on 12 impressionable jurors-nothing could ever be guaranteed to be perfect (a huge argument against capital punishment)-but there is general agreement within the Legal profession about burden of proof.

There is NOTHING unworkable about it-nor is there anything illogical in my statement.
mortonjag 2007-07-18 07:46:48
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jul 17 2007, 08:33 PM) [snapback]300534[/snapback]
Thats's exactly why convictions are made by our peers based on evidence and sentences are made by judges as they're impartial and not emotionally involved in the case. Of course if you're emotionally involved in a crime you'd want to see the culprit hung, drawn and quartered. But if we started letting relatives of the victims decide on sentencing then we'd be going down a dangerous path as very often the punishment will be disproportionate to the crime. It would in other words be used for revenge and not for punishment.

Having said all that, I do agree with your general premise that sentences for violent crime and murder are way too short. Instructing judges to impose much longer mimimum tariffs for these crimes and where necessary changing the law would be a start.

I think you've completely misunderstood my posting Midtons. I was just pointing out to MJ that there's no measure of 'likelyhood' of guilt in the eyes of the law. Justice simply doesn't work like that, if you're found guilty then by definition you're 100% guilty, end of story.

That of course doesn't mean that mistakes don't happen and people don't suffer miscarriages of justice. That's therefore the main reason I oppose capital punishment, as you simply can't undo miscarriages if they've already been hung.

So, let me turn your question back on you. How you you feel if a loved one of yours was hanged for a crime he or she didn't commit and was subsequently proved to be innocent?


Nonsense-the Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission is currently inundated with work on mistrials.

If the system was effectively foolproof (as it would have to be in irreversible decisions like hanging)-there would be no need for investigation of miscarriages of justice.
mortonjag 2007-07-18 09:17:52
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 18 2007, 07:47 AM) [snapback]300633[/snapback]
Naw reality you mean tongue.gif


SAME THING!

mortonjag 2007-07-18 09:19:43
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Jul 18 2007, 08:29 AM) [snapback]300636[/snapback]
I think mid-table (5,6 or 7th). IMO, this year, teams will come out to beat us, rather than putting up the barricades and hoping to hit us with a sucker punch. Should make for more interesting, open games and i reckon we may just suprise a few people, even with our lack of signings. Sad thing is, if we had secured our expected targets i.e. an experienced central midfielder etc. i think we could have challenged at the business end of this division.

Agreed! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-18 09:27:04
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jul 18 2007, 08:40 AM) [snapback]300640[/snapback]
Where in those definitions above does it state that the object or person taking or filling the place or being the substitute is of the same quality / specification of that of which it is replacing? I thought you were supposed to be smart. Tube!!



Do you really want a stupid semantic argument?

The concept of replacing something is restoring the 'status quo' If your mate lends you a tenner and you replace it with a fiver you have substituted-not replaced.

If 'McGowan has been replaced by Robinson' sounds OK to you, it doesn't to me.

I quite like being called a Smartie Tube-sorry they ever phased them out-used to love bashing the empty ones with the flat of my hand to see how far I could propel the plastic lids.

Orange Smarties are by FAR the best BTW wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-18 09:42:25
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 18 2007, 08:38 AM) [snapback]300638[/snapback]
Oh dear! Don't tell me that the arch purveyor of abuse who has regularly described people as stupid or sycophantic because they don't share his opinions, has difficulty in taking a little in return?

As for doctors being better at clinical assessment, I don't disagree. That, however, is a bit like saying that Chartered Accountants are good at Accounting - its expected! As for doctors' overall ability to judge character, it might be a little better but I don't accept that in all cases thats a given.

With regard to Jim McInally, I don't claim that his coaching certificates and experience qualify him to run the business side of a football club but it does at least give him a better claim to be able to run a football team than any of the pundits on here. Running the business is the responsibility of the board. Jim's concern is running the team and matters related thereto and my sycophantic view is that he has been not bad at it.

Finally, I have seen Douglas Rae's experience dismissed (not by MJ to be fair) as restricted to running a 'wee sweety factory' I think that dramatically understates the fact that he has built an eight figure turnover business that produces seven figure profits every year in a market place dominated by big players. If anyone thinks thats easy, ask the directors of businesses like McCowans or Millars who have gone spectacularly bust trying to achieve what Dougie has.


Don't be silly-you know I thrive on abuse-provided it's not a deliberate attempt at character assassination!

I was merely pointing out your inaccuracy which you've now corrected.

In professional terms, I'd equate JM with a first year junior House Officer in a Hospital. Just as he is a qualified Doctor, JM is a qualified football coach.

Some of the most successful medical students in my year ended up as pretty useless clinicians!

With Mr Rae at the helm, Golden Casket has done well in relative terms. He is the archetypal 'hands on' boss who never lets the business get big enough to go out of control-not one of the Tom Farmers of this world whose immense success is down to effective delegation.

I believe that delegation is sadly absent at Cappielow-I believe that is holding us back.
mortonjag 2007-07-18 09:45:01
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jul 18 2007, 09:14 AM) [snapback]300648[/snapback]
Post of Mortonjag:

One point of fact-it's generally accepted that Doctors are better equipped in personality assessment.
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Generally accepted by whom?


If you can't read-don't post.
mortonjag 2007-07-18 09:49:51
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jul 18 2007, 09:21 AM) [snapback]300654[/snapback]
Of course the justice system isn't foolproof, it's far from it. In fact if you read my posting properly you'll see that that's the very reason I gave for my opposition to capital punishment. rolleyes.gif

But the justice system doesn't work on probability of guilt after a conviction, nor can it. If you're found guilty, you're guilty, end of story, until such time as new evidence comes to light that challenges that conviction.

So your suggestion that we should only hang those whos guilt is 'beyond all reasonable doubt' is ridiculous because in practice that would be everyone at the point of conviction.

Also, if you start to base the severity of the sentence based on probability of guilt as you're suggesting then that would inevitably result in even more miscarriages of justice. You've not really though that idea through properly, have you MJ?

I stated that I believe in capital punishment in a very small number of cases where guilt is BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT.

I stated that if re-introduced new systems would have to be in place to ensure that.

I'm not talking about the status quo-where your assertions are correct.
mortonjag 2007-07-18 09:56:14
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Jul 18 2007, 09:48 AM) [snapback]300666[/snapback]
The thing with 'whacking' kids back in my youth was something you didnt forget, you did something wrong, you got caught, youo got the sh1t slapped out of you, then your father came home and finished where either your mother or even gran folks had left off...the point being, you learned respect, you learned what you could and couldnt do the hard way.

It kept you in line....aye you might have thought' die ya swine' at the time but you look back at those times and you realise it was for the better of you now....

All this " you cannae touch me" crap has gone too far, parent nad even to an extent - teachers, need more authority over their children....seriously, I believe they should.


You believe in SMACKING naughty children!

SHOCKING


mortonjag 2007-07-18 10:05:38
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Jul 18 2007, 09:58 AM) [snapback]300671[/snapback]
Yup Shocking but true.....


Giving a child a sharp clout on the arse is pretty effective provided both parties understand the rules.

I'm tempted to use the old cliche-'Never did me any harm'!

Mind you that may be what's turned me into a bitter and twisted old curmudgeon.

Can't think of the number of times I've been in a public place where a brat is 'taking its parents to the cleaners' and was desperate to say, 'Scud the wee c*nt's arse'! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-18 10:08:20
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jul 17 2007, 01:32 PM) [snapback]300388[/snapback]
Sorry, no offence intended, I didn't realise you were a member of the Jamaican Army of Gay Islam. Now we know what the "JAG" part of your alias stands for...


Jobbyjabbers Against Gonorrhoea if you MUST know.
mortonjag 2007-07-18 10:09:42
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 17 2007, 11:14 PM) [snapback]300581[/snapback]
It wasn't that long ago our own club suffered from a fraudster and a sexual deviant, so perhaps it's not wise for us to get too self righteous. Justice was dealt out in one case but the other got off 'Scott' free.
Criticism of the OF is best aimed at their cynical exploitation of sectarianism. We can also criticise the Scottish establishment for allowing them to prosper from it for so long.


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mortonjag 2007-07-18 10:17:54
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Jul 18 2007, 10:10 AM) [snapback]300676[/snapback]
Totally agree MJ, but at the same time, I think todays parents can be out of control with the smacking thing. Some just seem to be hitting their kids out of frustration, which is what I dont like to see, you know the kind who shout and scream at their brats then hit them with a sledgehammer blow to shut them up..usually in a shopping mall or some busy place...


Correct-if parents start out on the right foot children know the boundaries-those ones you describe have already lost control and are hitting out in anger and frustration.

Giving kids more freedom than they can handle does them a gross disservice.

Incidentally I have three grown up children, one of whom was never punished physically. The other two each had a good 'hiding' on one occasion only.

None has been in any kind of trouble, and all are relatively successful and have children of their own.
mortonjag 2007-07-18 10:21:02
QUOTE(Laura_w @ Jul 18 2007, 10:16 AM) [snapback]300677[/snapback]
I was actually the one who got told this story first hand when I was working in the Albert last night off of Adrian, Pete’s manager. Story wasn’t meant to offend anyone I thought it was quite a funny story. I think if Pete really wanted one he would’ve offered to pay but Morton didn’t even give him that opportunity, typical commercial dept in my opinion have had a few run ins with them in the past so there’s another one to add. Think it would’ve been a bit of fun for both parties involved. As for him being a junkie fair enough the club maybe doesnt want to be associated with him but u cant choose who supports your club and who doesnt!


Careful Laura the Shooglyphiles will be baying at your heels in no time! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-19 06:48:58 I decided at the last minute to save money and stay at home-my enthusiasm's been dampened so much by recent events.

To those of you who have accused me of being one of the boo boys, all I can say is GROW UP-I'm one of very few genuine Ton supporters who doesn't have a go at individual players, and I NEVER BOO!

I'm pleased and puzzled by the result. Coakley and Robinson seem to have put in good shifts.

Interesting to notice we opened with a cracking striker's goal.

SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A STRIKER
mortonjag 2007-07-19 06:53:25
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 18 2007, 12:03 PM) [snapback]300702[/snapback]
I would like to think that any doctor must be a better clinician than any non medical person, including chartered accountants.

I am not sure what inaccuracy I corrected?

I agree that Douglas Rae is pretty hands on but he also runs a fair sized business and you cannot do that without some delegation. There must be divisional heads in that business of some description who have delegated powers. Otherwise how would Dougie be able to spend so much time on Morton?

I thought you had KNOWLEDGE-now it appears you know as much as I do.

The correction you made was that you initially claimed JM's coaching certificates entitled him to RUN a football club.
mortonjag 2007-07-19 06:55:24
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jul 18 2007, 12:42 PM) [snapback]300712[/snapback]
I agree he may be better used in Midfield . My point was I dont think he would have scored 18 if he was up front as he prefers to play facing the goal rather than with his back to goal . So mortonw@nks point about Mcinally not knowing a striker from a rightback was a load of pish


Why did JM play this incredibly skilful right back up front last night-has he COMPLETELY lost it? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-19 06:58:21
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jul 18 2007, 12:55 PM) [snapback]300716[/snapback]
In the past mortonjag has more or less admitted to not knowing anything about how Mr Rae runs Golden Casket or for that fact Greenock Morton FC. He just makes it up as he goes along (or asks his brother - the oracle of all financial knowledge).


I have a pretty good idea of how Shoogly runs GC.

I've recently received some news which tends to confirm that all is not well behind closed doors at Cappielow.

I have four brothers-I wasn't aware that you know one of them.

For all I know you ARE one and just 'takin the piss'.
mortonjag 2007-07-19 07:05:31
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Jul 18 2007, 06:40 PM) [snapback]300800[/snapback]
I know everyones entitled to an opinion but you are such a pessimistic a'hole you should attend your football games at love st



So untrue Kat.

I'm one of the most REALISTIC guys you'll ever meet.

Don't try to criticise that until you've met me.

I've discovered after a fair number of years on this wee planet that 'he who expecteth nothing' is never disappointed.

After last night's result I'm more convinced than ever that getting those extra couple of players we were promised could have seen us challenge for the SPL.

I'm STILL hopeful!


mortonjag 2007-07-19 07:08:14
QUOTE(The Shuffler @ Jul 18 2007, 02:19 PM) [snapback]300745[/snapback]
Bit concerning the injuries we"ve got jus now, Templemen to see a specalist & Linn with Achilles probs ! If any of the remaining strikers pick up anything during this spate of games comin up we could be right in it come the start of the season. Hopfully we"ll get another striker signed soon.

SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A STRIKER
mortonjag 2007-07-19 07:13:33
QUOTE(MrX @ Jul 18 2007, 05:54 PM) [snapback]300793[/snapback]
Don't post often, but read the forum most days to keep upto date with all things Morton.

MortonJag as much as I find some of your posts humorous, other times I just want to read the topic without wading through literally hundreds of soul crushingly negative posts. You make this very difficult.

Please don't ask me to put you on ignore, as often your posts are funny. Thought you could use this dumping ground to offload alot of your Morton/JM frustrations with polluting the whole forum.

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mortonjag 2007-07-19 07:13:51
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Jul 18 2007, 06:48 PM) [snapback]300802[/snapback]
mj is a sad lonely wee boy and a t***

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mortonjag 2007-07-19 07:14:21
QUOTE(Capuan @ Jul 18 2007, 10:27 PM) [snapback]300996[/snapback]
Mortonjag who???

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mortonjag 2007-07-19 07:23:13
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jul 18 2007, 10:31 AM) [snapback]300682[/snapback]
By inference you are stating that by replacing is to do so with the same quality. It would be nice for once if in your daily rants you could admit once in while that you're wrong. Mission impossible I know but there you go. It must be great to live your life according to your own rules and definitions - everyone else is wrong but you are right because your definition is completely different from the accepted norm. Weird or what? blink.gif

According to your own definition posted previously to substitute and to replace are the same thing. Try looking at the factual definition rather than your own twisted interpretation.




Substitute-from the Latin

To set UNDER

Replace-from the Latin

To put back in position.

Shall we continue?-you're just as entitled to your interpretation as I am to mine Ratarse! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-19 07:26:11
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 18 2007, 04:04 PM) [snapback]300770[/snapback]
Because football is played differently now.

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You appear to be calling me an anachronist young man!

SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A STRIKER


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mortonjag 2007-07-19 07:29:59
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 19 2007, 02:28 AM) [snapback]301077[/snapback]
As I've said before I'm not disputing the different definitions of a striker or forward. McGowan is a Bergkamp, Rooney, Tevez, type of attacker not your Van Nistelrooy, Ally McCoist , Kris Boyd 'striker' as you call them. You once claimed McGowan is an attacking midfielder that's what I disagree with.


If he's not that, and not a striker, what are we to call him?

In the old way-he's not a winger, or centre forward, but is a forward.

He's therefore an attacking inside forward-now commonly described as an attacking midfielder-I seem to recall most of his productive play coming well outside the eighteen yard box-the opposite could also be argued.
mortonjag 2007-07-19 07:34:38
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 19 2007, 07:06 AM) [snapback]301089[/snapback]
It's generally accepted by Doctors. As with most professions they do tend have an inflated opinion of their abilities. Teachers are much the same in my experience.


Correct.

And most professionals agree that Doctors are experienced in personality assessment!
mortonjag 2007-07-19 07:37:34 Biggest thing I've taken out of it is that Spoonsy was played up front where he belongs, and scored a cracker against an 'SPL' defence.

If previous experience of pre season friendlies is much to go on though, I'd not read TOO much into the final score.
mortonjag 2007-07-19 07:39:55
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 18 2007, 11:02 AM) [snapback]300687[/snapback]
Gaff is a slang term for a place of residence. Alright Quack?


I live and learn oh carbunculogenous one! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-19 07:41:09
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jul 18 2007, 05:24 PM) [snapback]300783[/snapback]
MJ talking sense....... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2007-07-19 07:41:29
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jul 18 2007, 05:24 PM) [snapback]300784[/snapback]
sorry MJ

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mortonjag 2007-07-19 07:42:46
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 18 2007, 08:58 PM) [snapback]300921[/snapback]
She is as false as her tits


They can be removed though!
mortonjag 2007-07-19 07:46:05
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 18 2007, 09:00 PM) [snapback]300924[/snapback]
and her tan, hair, nails and Botoxed face, and she has no talent. All she can do is pout and point.


She IS a mummy -mind!
THERE'S ONLY ONE PETER WEATHERSON
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mortonjag 2007-07-19 07:56:47
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Jul 18 2007, 11:11 PM) [snapback]301028[/snapback]
Got to say i'm in agreement with Cet Homme on this - penalties should be set by someone who looks at evidence and circumstances - however, i do think that sentencing guidelines MUST be rethought, and time given should be served, no automatic early releases

AGREE

Most murders are committed by first time offenders in a domestic environment-sad but true.

Some murderers should be permanently prevented from re-offending-the most efficient way is to exterminate them 'humanely'.
mortonjag 2007-07-19 08:01:23
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 18 2007, 11:13 AM) [snapback]300691[/snapback]
Totally agree with most posts on here. Definite should have mandatory minimum sentences for knife carrying/using/violent behaviour etc. That type of action was very effective against the Glasgow Razor gangs. Not a great fan of capital punishment - too many mistakes have been made, but in some cases where guilt is completely beyond all doubt, and indeed when the person themself make a request for a speedy end (Gary Gilmore like) then I'm not totally averse to it - but widespread implementation would be a backward step in my opinion. Don't agree with hitting children though. I don't hit my own two and they are both well behaved. I've seen parents who do smack their kids who have very well behaved children, and some who are still complete nightmares. Same goes for parents who don't hit their kids. I'd surmise the child's behaviour is more to do with the type of environment they are raised in (in terms of love/morals/fairness etc) than their mode of punishment.

But each to their own though.

TonInDublin



I could not agree more TiD, with the rider that the ultimate sanction was used twice only when my three kids were growing up.

It had a remarkable effect!
mortonjag 2007-07-19 08:07:29
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jul 18 2007, 11:39 AM) [snapback]300699[/snapback]
MJ, you just don't get it, do you?

Read this very carefully and slowly........ all guilty convictions have to be BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT. Not a 'very small number', but ALL of them.

If you're suggesting therefore that we should convict and sentence people by some sort of subjective measure of probability of guilt then you're even dafter than I thought.


Having read that very carefully and slowly ten times, and pasted it to my desktop as a reminder that I'm incredibly thick, MAY I be permitted to say this.

ALL 'guilty' convictions are SUPPOSED to be 'beyond reasonable doubt'. The very existence of the SCCRC indicates that many have NOT been.

I'm simply stating that where the opportunity of review is removed, as in execution, new measures need to be instituted to make 'BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT' more accurate.
mortonjag 2007-07-19 08:09:20
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 19 2007, 01:11 AM) [snapback]301063[/snapback]
Oh aye, you're a bit late with that one chief. Posted that months ago. blink.gif

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mortonjag 2007-07-19 08:12:56 Once dreamt I was in bed with two spectral pouffes.

Gave me the Willies!
mortonjag 2007-07-19 08:14:47
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 19 2007, 12:02 AM) [snapback]301050[/snapback]
Ok then, you choose the bevvy, I don't mind because I'm versatile. biggrin.gif


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That's choice! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-19 08:41:25
QUOTE(lush @ Jul 19 2007, 08:24 AM) [snapback]301118[/snapback]
Thornton......funny.......... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif



I always find the young man very intense and self opinionated.

From a mere fresh faced youth that's peculiar-FUNNY even!
mortonjag 2007-07-19 08:45:29
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jul 19 2007, 08:39 AM) [snapback]301125[/snapback]
I was at the game (unlike all you part-timers, aye that's you, Cappielow Crazy!). I thought is was an excellent performance after the first ten minutes when we looked a bit nervous and Gretna were knocking the ball around well. I thought it was a sort of mix of 442 and 352 as Kevin was at right back one minute and outside right the next. Alex Walker did well at left back and the centre backs were solid. Both keepers played well, especially McGurn who had a couple of excellent blocks, and Robinson who looks excellent at crosses. Some of our interpassng was sloppy at times, giving the ball away too often, but in the second half it improved and at times we were giving Gretna the runaround. We were second best in midfield as far as physical strength is concerned, and they were very quick to hassle our players on the ball, but we got the measure of them and started keeping the ball moving and away from them.

Coakley looked useful, Walker did well at left back, Harry and Stuart were dominating even against some BIG opposition, Spoonsy, after a slow start, caused them endless problems and his finish for the goal was sublime, Jimaldinho again started off getting tackled all the time but when he got warmed up he was ghosting through them and should have scored when all he had to do was chip the keeper after beating about 65 Gretna players. Chris Miller did well although tended to get caught in possession. Temps didn't get much chance to impress but he had a couple of good moves. Deano hit the back of the stand with a shot, so I suppose that's better than normal as he would normally put it right over the top.....

Overall, a good win against strong opposition. I get the feeling that we're going to do fine in division 1 as long as we don't suffer too many injuries. And we still have Jamie to come in and help the midfield.

Reservations: I think we need a midfield enforcer
- Jenkins would be fine for that, but someone big and strong would make a big difference. A top notch striker, a big guy to get on the end of crosses, would be useful - Temps can do that now but he's more of a ball player than an out and out goalscorer.

I'd rate it 9/10 for last night. St Mirren must be s***ing themselves.

McAnespie didn't figure-can he fill that role?

Thanks for the report BTW!
mortonjag 2007-07-19 08:49:33
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jul 19 2007, 08:45 AM) [snapback]301127[/snapback]
It shows we can beat good teams - they had a full first team out, apart from the keeper I think, and despite them having a physical advantage (they seem to have a lot of big, vicious looking guys in their team), once we got the measure of them we were in control. I think it shows that we should be comfortable in division 1, and that Gretna will probably have enough to survive in the SPL. I thought they had some excellent players who got early crosses in (hard to defend) but our guys were tremendous, blocking everything.

We'll be top half, they'll be midtable, probably bottom six but I reckon not a relegation candidate - especially with St Mirren as a cushion.


It's sounding better than I'd expected, but look how we played against Killie and St Johnstone, so I'm not really surprised. Clearly the midset was correct last night. If that remains so-we can look at a top five slot.

Time will tell.
mortonjag 2007-07-19 08:53:27
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 19 2007, 08:24 AM) [snapback]301117[/snapback]
And that may result in fewer convictions.


Correct DE-but it's essential that justice should be not only 'seen to be just'.
mortonjag 2007-07-19 09:01:08
QUOTE(Rossco @ Jul 19 2007, 08:57 AM) [snapback]301134[/snapback]
Your right Jim is a p***k for making a bad decision 2 seasons ago get him to f***

That avatar's the best!
mortonjag 2007-07-19 09:20:47
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 19 2007, 09:11 AM) [snapback]301142[/snapback]
Not Irish, I refuse to spell Docherty without a 'c', how the hell do you even say it if you take out the 'ch' sound? unsure.gif


DAW HERTY

mortonjag 2007-07-19 10:38:59
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Jul 19 2007, 09:35 AM) [snapback]301156[/snapback]
Posh Spice is a slapper
she has a scabby fany
and when she's humping Beckham
she thinks of Phillip Cannie

oohhh

Posh spice is a slapper
she has come on her chin
and when she's humping Beckham
she thinks of bobby linn

ooohhh

posh Spice was a slapper
she's truly had her day
with plastic tits and plastic smile
she looks like Dougie Rae
mortonjag 2007-07-19 10:40:23
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jul 19 2007, 10:04 AM) [snapback]301167[/snapback]
Says the man who believes in the literal meaning of the bible.

Go on, tell us.


HOLY s***-the HOLY GHOST!
mortonjag 2007-07-19 10:42:27
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 19 2007, 10:10 AM) [snapback]301173[/snapback]
No, that's his late brother.


Who learned much from Mortonjag but wasn't quite as cute.

Require any private consultations Cholocate boy?
mortonjag 2007-07-19 10:47:40
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jul 19 2007, 09:45 AM) [snapback]301164[/snapback]
So you are then suggesting that the severity of sentence a murderer receives should be based on some kind of subjective measure of probability of guilt?

Have a word with yourself, will you. rolleyes.gif

The current system is far from perfect, but your madcap idea would be 10 times worse.


It might interest you to learn that one of my sons was in the team of three who produced the SCCRC report on Megrahi, CHC.

I take it you're well up in legal matters. My 'madcap idea'-like all of my SERIOUS posts is based on knowledge, and in this case after taking counsel! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-19 10:49:40
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jul 19 2007, 10:01 AM) [snapback]301165[/snapback]
He can't be wrong. He's a doctor. They are always right. How dare you even question his logic.


I have met many doctors who got things wrong!
mortonjag 2007-07-19 10:56:05
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 19 2007, 09:27 AM) [snapback]301151[/snapback]
The biggest impact of last night for us was to restore a bit of balance to our opinions of our team. We were short of 4/5 of the first team pool and still beat an SPL team on their home patch - fairly easily at that.

Those of us who have been less pessimistic than many of our fans (I'm not sure that 'supporters' is the correct expression for those I am thinking of!) have been getting more and more dragged into the general gloom surrounding the lack of signings etc and it was good to see such a good performance from the no hopers!!


Really and fanatics are less fervent than supporters.

C'mon we got beat last Saturday by Albion Rovers-stop laying TOO much emphasis on one result!

Has anyone genuinely dissected Gretna's 'FULL' squad. For a start they had a trialist goalie.

For what it's worth we played Finlayson and Weatherson in sensible positions. For me that's a hopeful sign.
mortonjag 2007-07-19 11:01:18 So glad this thread was started by Chocolate boy and not MJ!

Unfortunately we'll have folks on squabbling about the definition of a striker next.

SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A STRIKER


There you go sonny boy-yer poll's now f*cked! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-19 11:03:35
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Jul 19 2007, 10:06 AM) [snapback]301168[/snapback]
just seen on Inverclyde Now He was driven to Royal Alexandra Hospital, Paisley where he was kept in overnight for an operation.

is this the closest hospital to Gretna ??


That would be Carlisle-hadn't reallised the injury was life threatening!
mortonjag 2007-07-19 11:04:34
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 19 2007, 10:08 AM) [snapback]301170[/snapback]
No, but its the best hospital nearby and just up the motorway, without going to the Royal in Glasgow.

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mortonjag 2007-07-19 11:10:43
QUOTE(giz @ Jul 19 2007, 10:54 AM) [snapback]301201[/snapback]
Sorry guys but I cant say Alex looked comfortable at left back as Gretna used the right flank the whole of the 1st half and were unlucky not to score a few times.Coakley still has a lot to do to convinve me he'll be a player but Im not wanting to judge anyone after 1 game...BUT...Jim was a class above everyone else on the park.
The Urugyan (wrong spelling) was No10 and he was good at beating the 1st man but always got caught by a covering player.
I thought we played quite well and its all about fitness at this stage.



I take it you mean McAlister-was he skinning guys up the left wing and slinging over those wicked backward curling crosses from near the corner flag again Giz?

Only joking-how was he played and in what way was he so effective?
mortonjag 2007-07-19 11:15:57
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jul 19 2007, 10:31 AM) [snapback]301178[/snapback]
Aye, as JM has also said he's better when he's facing the goal. His 18 goals from fullback/midfield last season are testament to that!


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It sometimes helps to be FACING the goal when you strike-not always mind! wink.gif

I seem to remember McGraw scored most of his with his back to goal, his eyes closed, and a No 2 stuck on his back to confuse the opposition.
mortonjag 2007-07-19 11:19:20
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jul 19 2007, 10:53 AM) [snapback]301198[/snapback]
Oh christ so Mentaljag is the oracle on all things medical, his brother is the oracle on all things financial and his son, it now appears is now an oracle on all things legal and the justice system. I bet you one thing though - they're all experts in being a boring smart arse.


Please yourself Ratarse. If you wish to accord 'Oracle' status to people that's very sweet of you.

I take it you're not suggesting I've misrepresented fact! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-20 05:40:03
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jul 19 2007, 01:59 PM) [snapback]301265[/snapback]
...Excellent!!

Now, can anyone write one about, let's think.....

Jimmy Floyd Hasselbank? Or that triple barrelled Celtic bloke?

Yon vinegar in Castlemilk?
mortonjag 2007-07-20 05:41:55
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 19 2007, 05:02 PM) [snapback]301315[/snapback]
Good case for laugh.gifcompulsory euthanasia. laugh.gif

mortonjag 2007-07-20 05:47:53
QUOTE(Zutons @ Jul 19 2007, 10:01 PM) [snapback]301449[/snapback]
This is MJ


My other son who doesn't know how to sook his lolly.
mortonjag 2007-07-20 05:56:15
QUOTE(honosthemis @ Jul 19 2007, 10:43 PM) [snapback]301454[/snapback]
I'm new to all of this, but reading the crap he was s***e talking a few weeks back I agree with the other tadger from Ireland. This would be a good likeness if his f***ing poll's anything to go by. A right f***ing Maggie's Boy.
Its honos and its themis.




Honosthenis rhymes with Venus! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-20 05:58:16
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jul 19 2007, 11:24 AM) [snapback]301216[/snapback]
I'm not a legal expert by any stretch of the imagination, nor do I claim to be.

But I do THINK I know enough to tell when sombody's talking s***e. wink.gif


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mortonjag 2007-07-20 05:59:18
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 19 2007, 03:05 PM) [snapback]301285[/snapback]
rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif


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mortonjag 2007-07-20 06:01:57
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 20 2007, 12:15 AM) [snapback]301485[/snapback]
biggrin.gif



Do you think CLAYMORE C*CK'S a closet pouffe DE? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-20 06:10:39
QUOTE(lush @ Jul 19 2007, 02:12 PM) [snapback]301274[/snapback]
Does it take you back to the days you were let lose with a scalpel, or were you a mild mannered GP? tongue.gif


Lush-every time I see it I think of your old friend!

The one who's

UP HIS AIN

ERSE

mortonjag 2007-07-20 06:13:33
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jul 19 2007, 04:38 PM) [snapback]301309[/snapback]
The injury is unfortunate - he was chasing a high ball and seemed to try to flick it goalwards and then fell from a great height, apparently landing on his arm. Needed a stretcher so it must have been pretty bad.

Whoever comes in for Scott (presumably Jamie when fit) isn't going to add much in the way of strength, just skill. Unless Alex Walker is brought into midfield, but I don't see that happening. I think he will continue to warm the bench despite IMHO doing well when he gets a chance - or at worst, not making any major mistakes.

We are crying out for someone like Jenkins. We have the skill, now we need the strength. I suspect Jim McInally is well aware of that but just hasn't been able to sign anyone suitable. Yet.

Or that's what McAnespie's for.

We still need at least one experienced 'Old Head'.
mortonjag 2007-07-20 06:17:25
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 19 2007, 08:24 PM) [snapback]301395[/snapback]
AND YOUR POINT IS?


NOT being accepted!!! sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-20 06:19:31
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Jul 19 2007, 09:14 PM) [snapback]301429[/snapback]
Yet his best scoring season comes when he plays in midfield and defense. Go figure.

Please stop posting your opinions as facts. You're not the knowall and end all of the Morton side.


imho


SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A STRIKER

mortonjag 2007-07-20 06:23:47
QUOTE(Kaney @ Jul 19 2007, 06:59 PM) [snapback]301344[/snapback]
F*ck up.
I really do get tired of hearing your negative sh*t btw.
You should leave. And take some of yer f*nny mates with you.

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mortonjag 2007-07-20 06:24:24
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 19 2007, 08:06 PM) [snapback]301379[/snapback]
Name names.
I didn't know Mortonjag had any mates. ohmy.gif

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mortonjag 2007-07-20 06:24:53
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 19 2007, 08:07 PM) [snapback]301380[/snapback]
I am Mortonjag's best mate!

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mortonjag 2007-07-20 06:28:24
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 19 2007, 09:23 PM) [snapback]301432[/snapback]
In my opinion there's a difference between an attacking midfielder like Kaka who runs directly at defences coming from midfield with the ball and a player like McGowan who I'd call a second striker / supporting striker who takes the ball into feet with his back to goal and who links with attacking midfielders or takes the ball and turns and then runs at players.

You either don't think there is a difference or think that McGowan would be better playing in the same style as Kaka (as an example) I do think there's a difference and disagree he would play better that way.



Fair enough-you can dissect it 'til it's almost meaningless-at the end of the day it's clear that at least you and I have our own definite opinion of what constitutes a 'striker'.

For me a 'striker' doesn't get much involved in build up play-more like the 'shooter' in basketball.
mortonjag 2007-07-20 06:29:21
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 19 2007, 09:24 PM) [snapback]301433[/snapback]
Do you not know the type of "mate" mortonjag and myself are? ohmy.gif

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mortonjag 2007-07-20 06:33:11
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 20 2007, 12:47 AM) [snapback]301490[/snapback]
I'm worried that this result could backfire on us by lulling us into a flase sense of security.

The fact remains we need at least two new players to go straight into the first team or it'll be a relegation battle.

The injury situation's extremely worrying even now.


...and Dundee Uni's still shut for the holidays. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-20 06:45:19
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Jul 19 2007, 07:07 PM) [snapback]301350[/snapback]
I can't believe the number of people who say midfield. blink.gif

Spoonsy is a natural striker and scores goals for fun, so why anyone would rather have him in midfield when we've never really seen his passing ability to a great extent, i don't know. Sure, he's a great ball winner, but why have him win the ball in the middle of the park when he can win it where it matters - near the opposition goal!

You Sir, are clearly in need of urgent psychotherapy! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-20 06:47:01
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 19 2007, 08:03 PM) [snapback]301377[/snapback]
Peter is a striker.
Perhaps if we signed a midfielder and right back then we wouldn't have to play
him out of position.
Radical thinking, I know. dry.gif

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mortonjag 2007-07-20 06:53:35
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 19 2007, 09:02 PM) [snapback]301421[/snapback]
He was an attacking midfielder when he was with QoS, I believe, although apparently MJ disputes this and clearly he knows better than the QoS fans.

I think his vision and accuracy is such that he can play a providing role as well as a striking role. I know long diagonals aren't ideal for a team like ours but the number of times he hit fine balls from right back last season was very impressive.

It'd take a better footballing brain than mine to quantify *exactly* where he's best but IMO he's a very creative player when facing goal (as others have said) and thus can be excellent in a midfield role.

Of course if we had McGowan to shield the ball with his back to goal I think those two would link up excellently in a 4-3-1-2 (with Sanny as the other striker), but that leaves no room for Jamie Stevenson, really.

FFS-what's all this pish you kids keep talking about--- whether he's 'facing the goal' etc., etc., etc?

Too many two bit football degrees from second rate 'Universities' methinks!


Spoonsy is a natural predator-that's his strongest asset.

LET THE PREDATOR SWOOP
mortonjag 2007-07-20 06:55:35
QUOTE(blueandwhitehoops @ Jul 19 2007, 09:44 PM) [snapback]301444[/snapback]
[font="Impact"][/font][size=4][/size]
You may be correct about people squabbling over the definition of a 'striker' however one thing that's not up for debate is the fact that you are a FIRST CLASS PLONKER

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mortonjag 2007-07-20 06:57:41
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 19 2007, 09:46 PM) [snapback]301445[/snapback]
I'd grudge the 35p myself. wink.gif


There's one in the post to each of my 'friends' laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-20 07:04:03
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jul 19 2007, 05:50 PM) [snapback]301326[/snapback]
Was it a broken hand or wrist? Either way he should hopefully be able to maintain his physical fitness which will be important for a return to football.


Though if it's his left wrist it'll take a while to get up to speed with the other. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-20 07:07:24
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 19 2007, 06:16 PM) [snapback]301331[/snapback]
I was in Cappielow today picking up my season ticket and was told its quite a serious break - apparently he has broken both bones which were sticking though his skin. Jim's been told two months maybe but its at least two months and more likely to be Christmas before he's available.

I agree with those who say it now makes another signing important but I wonder if it might be Jay Shields. He's a good player and a defender would definitely release McAnespie to play in midfield.

On another side to Mclaughlin's injury, I thought the two Gretna players' reaction was exemplary. They obviously realised the seriousness of the injury and di well to stop the play and call not just for the trainer but for their club doctor (could have been our club doctor I suppose but I don't know) The centre half then took a corner of the stretcher to take Scott off the field.


I suppose the RAH will deal with that competently enough.

If it was a similar injury to an ankle, he'd need very specialised orthopaedic treatment to guarantee a continued career in football.
mortonjag 2007-07-20 07:08:30
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jul 19 2007, 08:25 PM) [snapback]301396[/snapback]
I wish Scott a speedy recovery as it must be a horrendous thing to happen at the start of the season.

I have to admit I didn't think he was going to feature in the first division and half expected to see him released. However I hope he proves me wrong, and I was with some people who are touting him for left back. I actually think he would make a decent left wing back with Jimbo on the right. He has the engine, a left foot and has no problem tracking back.


Agree-that or a 'sweeper' or do they no longer exist?
mortonjag 2007-07-20 07:11:13
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 19 2007, 04:05 PM) [snapback]301300[/snapback]
Can't believe we get an injury to a player in our most problematic area of the team.

Maybe it's God's way of saying "sign a midfielder McInally"


....or I'll terminate your contract? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-20 07:13:30
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 19 2007, 10:50 PM) [snapback]301460[/snapback]
Only 3 replies on the most relevant and important topic posted in days, strange! unsure.gif


Not strange young man-

TYPICAL mad.gif


mortonjag 2007-07-20 07:17:43
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jul 20 2007, 06:57 AM) [snapback]301524[/snapback]
Please refrain from editing peoples quotes to change its meaning, it's terribly bad form old boy.


Sorry young lad-I assumed it was opinion stated as fact and was merely trying to see justice done to you! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-20 07:27:37
QUOTE(Robert the Bruce @ Jul 19 2007, 04:34 PM) [snapback]301307[/snapback]
Get a link from Mick. He has hundreds of pictures of Moira stored for wanking purposes.
His daddy had to limit his Internet time due to his fascination with her, he was severely damaging his eyesight
.



But Mick will never learn from his elders. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-20 09:04:39
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 20 2007, 08:04 AM) [snapback]301533[/snapback]
Not at all. Colikitto has testified that he is a rampant heterosexual.


Has he been cross examined on this?
mortonjag 2007-07-20 09:07:17
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 20 2007, 08:57 AM) [snapback]301535[/snapback]
Took you long enough to chime in, Jaggybaws.

That was page 2 - getting slower in your auld age?? ohmy.gif


Not at all Micky boy-I was just trying out the Moira Salmond Porn site-Bawheid's not as daft as I thought.
mortonjag 2007-07-20 09:24:00
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Jul 18 2007, 09:11 PM) [snapback]300939[/snapback]
People like you shame the rest of us "real" supporters,is it your smack habit that makes you so negative,paranoid and bitter?


You wouldn't happen to be the same REAL Morton supporter who's been dishing out threats and personal abuse on P & B ?

I don't think you can be. REAL Morton supporters don't make threats qualified by 'this isn't a joke'.

If you don't like what Dougie says-fine.

IS he telling the truth or not?
mortonjag 2007-07-20 09:27:41
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 20 2007, 09:20 AM) [snapback]301544[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2007-07-20 09:40:58
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 20 2007, 09:29 AM) [snapback]301549[/snapback]
laugh.gif
I think that the ailing Michael has 'pressed' him on such matters.

They seem well suited don't you think? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-20 09:42:43
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 20 2007, 09:24 AM) [snapback]301547[/snapback]
Hopefully Angus MacTeuchter gets torn apart for touching wee lassies, at least.


Is THAT CLAYMORE C*CK'S real name? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-20 09:45:55
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 20 2007, 09:43 AM) [snapback]301554[/snapback]
You must've been gutted when Richard Whiteley died tongue.gif


Not really-it was the Vord I always wanted to shag-not the toupeed tie toter who couldn't tell a pun from a Hun.
mortonjag 2007-07-20 09:52:48
QUOTE(mickaspic @ Jul 20 2007, 09:16 AM) [snapback]301543[/snapback]
MortonJag,

Can you do the readers of this board a favour and put all your replies in one post. Its pretty annoying reading threads and then have 8 replies in a row all posted by you. Also give it a rest with the large pink font. If you want to emphasise a point can you use an exclamation mark or bold or capitals. It just irritating for everyone else.

Would make the board far more enjoyable to read.

Mick


That would be extremely demeaning of my fellow posters, and ungracious to boot. I've always been taught to respond courteously to folks-AND to treat them individually.

As for your self appointed spokesmanship for multi pinkophobes

NO



mortonjag 2007-07-20 09:55:39
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 20 2007, 09:48 AM) [snapback]301556[/snapback]
Nah, he'd be proud of that - and if you notice he kept himself out of that "How Scottish Is Your Surname?" thread...

I bet his name is something like Humphrey Faulkner the third.


Hee Hee

Incidentally did YOU score a single point on that? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-20 09:58:27
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 19 2007, 08:46 PM) [snapback]301409[/snapback]
The comute to there would be horrendous. laugh.gif
Nuremburg is just off the m8 east of Glasgow. wink.gif


Many possibilities there-I saw a broken down VW caravanette on the hard shoulder yesterday.
mortonjag 2007-07-20 10:00:36
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 20 2007, 09:56 AM) [snapback]301561[/snapback]
Well suited ? I don't think so. Colkitto probably wears nothing else bar full highland dress, and somehow I can't see the ailing Michael wearing a suit.



I was thinking less in sartorial than in congressional terms DE.
mortonjag 2007-07-21 06:12:16
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 20 2007, 01:23 PM) [snapback]301655[/snapback]
George Michael actually, but Sean prefers Elton John.

Sean sings Candle In My Bum instead of Candle In The Wind.

It's the way he likes it blink.gif



And like Gordon Brown has oft been heard to say 'I love McConnell up ma bum'.
mortonjag 2007-07-21 06:14:52
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 20 2007, 02:20 PM) [snapback]301675[/snapback]
blink.gif

If I was Gay I wouldn't hide it like our Cliff. The Gays have every right to be outraged at Cliff's betrayal.
C'mon the Gay's !!



So he's a closet promonTory pouffe?
mortonjag 2007-07-21 06:36:57
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 20 2007, 02:35 PM) [snapback]301682[/snapback]
A Hitlercar breaking down? ohmy.gif


They're air cooled you see-prone to overheating very quickly if things aren't spinning the right way.

dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-21 06:39:42
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 20 2007, 10:01 AM) [snapback]301564[/snapback]
Did I Hell laugh.gif

Pip pip, I must be English myself.

You?


40 something was the best-but my Granda was a Scouser!
mortonjag 2007-07-21 06:44:34
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 20 2007, 12:49 PM) [snapback]301636[/snapback]
No point at all in wasting more taxpayers money upon a foregone conclusion. The honours system is just one manifestation of the corrupt and archaic British Constitution. It's time to dismantle all of it.


The corruption is actually inherent in the human species DE.

Mind you it's claimed that power corrupts, and total power corrupts totally-one of my reasons for disliking autocracies in anything, especially in football.
mortonjag 2007-07-21 06:50:58
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 20 2007, 04:11 PM) [snapback]301718[/snapback]
Didn't mortonjag come out and tell us about the size of his "little" friend before? unsure.gif



The foreskin has twelve known functions.
They are:

1. to cover and bond with the synechia so as to permit the development of the mucosal surface of the glans and inner foreskin.
2. to protect the infant's glans from feces and ammonia in diapers.
3. to protect the glans penis from friction and abrasion thoughout life.
4. to keep the glans moisturized and soft with emollient oils.
5. to lubricate the glans.
6. to coat the glans with a waxy protective substance.
7. to provide sufficient skin to cover an erection by unfolding.
8. to provide an aid to masturbation and foreplay.
9. to serve as an aid to penetration.
10. to reduce friction and chafing during intercourse.
11. to serve as erogenous tissue because of its rich supply of erogenous receptors.
12. to contact and stimulate the G-spot of the female partner.
13. to lull Mortonjag's sexual partners into a false sense of superiority. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-21 07:56:22
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 21 2007, 07:25 AM) [snapback]301910[/snapback]
Thanks for clearing that up I always wondered that wink.gif


What's always puzzled me is the reason for so many folk wanting to remove such a useful little device. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-21 07:59:27
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 21 2007, 07:30 AM) [snapback]301911[/snapback]
Is that you spamming again MJ tongue.gif


I'd rather be a spammer than in jail
Yes I would, if I could I really would
mortonjag 2007-07-21 08:03:21 My name apparently doesn't exist, though one other person in Britain shares my 'Sunday' name.

What a scary thought! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-21 08:12:54
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 20 2007, 09:46 PM) [snapback]301839[/snapback]
No expense there, then. tongue.gif


The word was embraced by apostrophes VT

No doubt spick mick would approve, and ideally it would have been turd class!
mortonjag 2007-07-21 08:14:47
QUOTE(dumbarTON @ Jul 20 2007, 01:54 PM) [snapback]301665[/snapback]
you appear to be implying that peter is best as a striker but the truth is that if you look at it he scored more goals in other positions


Keep this to football please.
mortonjag 2007-07-21 08:16:18
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 20 2007, 09:24 PM) [snapback]301827[/snapback]
[codebox]I've no idea how to use the multiple quote function. Please help me?[/codebox]

TYLT

I'll work on that when I come back from my wee break! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-21 08:19:31
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 20 2007, 07:01 PM) [snapback]301775[/snapback]
However, it is strange that the young man matriculated.

Apparently he's getting quite good at it and even keeps his eyes open occasionally.
mortonjag 2007-07-21 08:22:43
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Jul 20 2007, 09:00 PM) [snapback]301815[/snapback]
Hello,hello we are the Morton boys..........

We're all Morton supporters, faithful..........

If we are going to sing OF songs in the first we are going to be despised by everyone else,
those songs send out a bad image of us all IMO

Your thoughts please.


I think, with no intended disrespect, that in attempting to improve your image, you've already gone up in my estimation.
mortonjag 2007-07-21 08:27:57
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jun 20 2007, 07:43 PM) [snapback]291585[/snapback]
I have been to Alloa five times I think, in the weans gate every time!! GIRUY laugh.gif


I've always been afraid to ask this-I once saw this rather freakish looking kilted apparition at an Alloa game, and immediately wondered 'Is that ThornTON'?

There again it may have been CLAYMORE C*CK'S wee brother.
mortonjag 2007-07-21 08:32:36 I feel sorry for folk who are genuinely hard up, but it tends to be the same old story on here.

People are constantly boasting about gigs, playstation, booze, motors, holidays etc., but grudge paying for what, by any standards those days, is relatively cheap entertainment.

Open your eyes and see the real 'rip off' merchants of this world. They are not struggling 1st division football clubs.
mortonjag 2007-07-21 08:39:00
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 20 2007, 08:02 PM) [snapback]301784[/snapback]
They've only got themselves to blame and if we end up screwed because of it I hope heads roll.

Talk of being "down to the bare bones" with TWO f***ing injuries is pathetic!

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I'll get slaughtered for saying this I know-but I'm off the board for a few days as I've been advised by my psychiatrist to avoid stress-so here goes.

Is it just possible that JM's not very bright? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-21 08:42:38
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jul 21 2007, 08:34 AM) [snapback]301922[/snapback]
just had a look at the coupon for this seasons league competitions and here is my predictions

premiership - chelski 13/8

championship - sheffield united 9/1

league 1 - super leeds united, but maybe forest sad.gif 5/1 both teams

league 2 - milton keynes 8/1

scots premier - septic 4/6

1st div. - dunfermline 6/4

2nd div. - raith rovers 3/1

3rd div. - stranraer, but maybe stenny blink.gif 4/1 and 7/1


I'm not really a gambler-the one that sticks out a mile for me is Celtic-as a poor bet at the odds.

Can't see it as anything other than mighty close this season, and the Huns were already picking up after Smith took over, and would be my bet on this one.
mortonjag 2007-07-25 14:00:44 I'm just back from Dunoon-I had a lovely wee break-my only disappointment-'The Point' (Indian Restaurant) seems not to have lived up to it's early promise.

Do you know you can't buy the 'Tilly' in Dunoon-I only got one report of the Morecambe game in the Sunday Mail-seems we were astounding!

10 days 'til the season starts.

SHOOGLY-ARE WE UP FOR IT?




SHOOGLY-ARE YOU STILL THERE?
/



IS IT SPL OR NOT SHOOGLY?



Tell us something-anything-just speak to us!
mortonjag 2007-07-25 14:27:39
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jul 25 2007, 02:18 PM) [snapback]303219[/snapback]
Hi MJ. Good to have you back.


Cheers Weegie! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-25 14:49:36
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 24 2007, 10:45 PM) [snapback]302956[/snapback]
We were poor compared to how we played in the Gretna game but the score really flattered Morecambe. We hit woodwork 3 times and should have had a couple of goals. We had more of the ball throughout but did not look at all dangerous upfront. Coakly is not the answer and Weatherson did not look comfortable upfront.

For their goals, the first started from Robinson having a will I, won't I moment in terms of coming for the ball. he left it and panicked the defence and Greacen needlessly brought their guy down.

Second goal was also down to our central defenders and then Robinson parried it straight out to their player

Third goal we got caught upfield chasing the game.

Overall it was a poor show but not as bad as the score suggests. We were far better when Temps came on and Weatherson went to midfield but we definitely need more fire power. Contrary to other views

, I thought we competed fairly well in midfield and that our real weakness was our inability to make anything of our possession.


Is that a summary of the Morecambe game or the whole of last season?

PLUS CA CHANGE
mortonjag 2007-07-25 14:52:20
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 23 2007, 09:11 AM) [snapback]302488[/snapback]
Shame on you for making fun of our Chairman. laugh.gif


I find it abhorrent that a section of our fans feels at liberty to display such crass disrespect for a doting and benevolent old gentleman.
mortonjag 2007-07-25 15:26:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 25 2007, 03:15 PM) [snapback]303255[/snapback]


plus c'est la même chose

At Cappielow ?

Or Fort Matilda ?


Thinking about sweeties and things:


'Decadent'-is a word which springs to mind-from the Latin 'de' -of, and 'cadere'-to fall down, laugh.gif but now taken to mean rotting-as in teeth for sure, and I've been saying for a while that 'There's something rotten in the state of Scapa Denmark'.

mortonjag 2007-07-25 15:31:51
QUOTE(Rossco @ Jul 25 2007, 02:54 PM) [snapback]303250[/snapback]
Just had an email from Morton shop infant kits not coming in until 9th August.

Not that fussed to be honest just thought would let others know in case anyone was thinking about one.



As worn by most of the first team last season? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-25 15:35:06
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 25 2007, 02:36 PM) [snapback]303237[/snapback]
I was just about to post worrying about your whereabouts MJ.

Welcome back to the good old days back on YOUR board tongue.gif


Ta Willow-I'm getting quite excited about the new season at last-I've finally given up hope of any genuine effort to give the fans what they want, and am getting used to the idea of supporting a First Division 'also ran' this season. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-25 15:38:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 25 2007, 02:52 PM) [snapback]303249[/snapback]
Hey Manky,

Apostrophe Man strikes again.


laugh.gif laugh.gif


I'm thoroughly ashamed of myself-I'm off to cleanse my colon with a Fudgy Wudgy enema-excellent for one's spelling I believe, provided it's not too hot. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-25 15:39:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 25 2007, 02:56 PM) [snapback]303251[/snapback]
seems we were astounding!
Is that a euphemism ????


That is a pronoun!
mortonjag 2007-07-25 15:44:27
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 21 2007, 04:16 PM) [snapback]302045[/snapback]
Probably worse than that, Monsieur. Because you called him a loonball, he'll reckon you're a unionist homosexual. laugh.gif


I've heard about those practising pouffes-disgusting in the extreme I'd suggest!
mortonjag 2007-07-25 15:55:52
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 25 2007, 01:10 PM) [snapback]303176[/snapback]
I bought a season ticket , although I do share your sentiments on JM .


I've never bothered with season tickets 'til now.

Fancy that-my first year in almost fifty that I'll be the proud owner of an unnecesary 'crowd dodger'! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-25 15:58:47
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 21 2007, 09:28 AM) [snapback]301927[/snapback]
Is that the name you use when you crossdress as a woman ? mellow.gif


You claimed our secret was safe.
mortonjag 2007-07-25 16:06:04
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jul 25 2007, 03:41 PM) [snapback]303270[/snapback]
good to see you back
glad the old colour: pink font size : 42 has been dusted off
i dont mind mj (especially not as much as people on the board)
but newton this is utter garbage this thing
you mention it is ton related but give us cryptic hints as to its relevance
you wanted to say hello to mortonjag fair enough but pm him next time or put it in general nonsense


Pay no attention to the Newt-he does have some funny ideas.

I believe he's got a wee bit tired of sending p.m.'s to this neck o' the woods leyTON-it seems folk keep blanking him!

All may be revealed! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-25 17:18:40
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 25 2007, 04:40 PM) [snapback]303315[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

If the actress does not speak with the bishop soon, I will do more than fu**ing reveal, mate.

I will make Love Street an offer they cannot refuse.

I am doing this for Stan Webster's lads as much as the Ton.

I expect the actress understands that.


And if we lose 2 of Stan's lads to the Huns and they turn out as well as Scott McDonald ...

mad.gif mad.gif

Rant over.

On the Ton - I want a BIG win on 23 September.

biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


Are you trying to suggest that you know Stan Webster-the guy who's coached Scott McDonald and other young Aussie Internationals Newt?

Really-too much of the sun methinks.

There again...... wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-25 17:25:38
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 25 2007, 03:00 PM) [snapback]303253[/snapback]
You could tell Mortonjag from the stains on his ohmy.gif

DNA evidence has got him before laugh.gif


I'm willing to admit to any offence you wish-EXCEPT that of a grown adult poncing about town in a football top.
mortonjag 2007-07-26 08:31:39 Nobody was taking the game too seriously-yet the Ref still managed to book a Stenny player!

I was disappointed Robinson's so slight physically-he's extremely agile with excellent positional sense, and quite communicative with the others, but liable to silly unforced errors. Time will tell, but I worry again about being bullied and outmuscled in the box this season.

Sturm's difficult to assess-but he IS a striker-he and McGowan-chalk and cheese!! Put a first time volley just past Hillcoat's left post before he came off, and cleverly dummied a cross to let a team mate fire a shot in-that and two opportunist goals. Might do OK for us if signed.

Keenan was quite solid in defensive midfield-Jamie had a lazy night-Shields looked quite tenacious-Brian Graham fired in a powerful shot in the second half-that's about it I think.

The Steward claimed that was a strong Stenny side-I'd rate it overall as a reasonable performance.

On the down side though-10 days before the big kick off and you're lining up 5 trialists-looks a wee bit late!
mortonjag 2007-07-26 08:40:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 25 2007, 05:33 PM) [snapback]303326[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

mortonjag, that really cracked me up.

The best laugh I have had in ages.

No, mate - the Stan Webster I know supports Ayr United.

sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

However the Stan I know also has a son called Stuart.

Does yours ?

blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif

One of my sons has Stewart as a middle name-this 'Stan the Man' you know, who supports the Honest Men-I'm sure you mentioned him in connection with Scott McDonald-did Ayr play Motherwell last season or something? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-26 08:43:19
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 25 2007, 12:47 PM) [snapback]303167[/snapback]
VT you know the only carrot we have is between the sticks and he is only on loan . laugh.gif


A slightly built fresh faced youth-not one I'd describe as a seasoned custodian-but he'll get plenty of practice-that's for sure!!
mortonjag 2007-07-26 08:55:40 Mr Rae never fails to disappoint me. After his excellent showing at Morecambe, he was nowhere to be seen last night!

Toby is right-wasted time and money on a long trip to Ochilview and I don't even glimpse the Maestro, let alone see a repeat of his inimitable 'watch me fall on my arse while talking out of it' trick.
mortonjag 2007-07-26 09:02:04
QUOTE(Doddie @ Jul 25 2007, 10:28 PM) [snapback]303506[/snapback]
Looks like we could have a good player on our hands here, i guess it depends on what happens with McGowan, but from what everyone is saying we should get him snapped out soon.


Sturm's a striker!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-26 09:08:26
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 26 2007, 12:57 AM) [snapback]303671[/snapback]
Very worrying seeing Alex Rae and Billy Reid leave the second Sturm was substituted. Hopefully Morton are on the ball here and snap him up straight away.

I've done a wee analysis of him on my blog and basically I think he'd be a superb signing. Too good for our level of football if you ask me.


I just read your excellent blog Mr Mitchell.

Sturm-as described by yourself is, like Spoonsy, a predatory striker. wink.gif

Interesting to note JM thinks otherwise but then he says Gowser's a striker! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-26 09:18:54
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 26 2007, 02:14 AM) [snapback]303796[/snapback]
Cheers Jona.

re Sturm, his calibre. Sometimes the board gets me down. We have an almost automatic glass-half-empty mechanism on here, kicked into life by the same old people. Let's have another look at him against Rangers and see.

I'm mystified by the ferocity of the feeling towards Jim McInally. He's not perfect - that's why he's the Morton manager. Sometimes I think we've got ideas above our station, certainly at this moment in time.

Our club very nearly died - I'm trotting out the same old violin tear jerker, but we nearly did. It's taken a long time to come round from that, we're back in the First Division, and McINally is a part of that.

We have to stick by him, his signings, and see what we do this year. We have to remember what it is like not winning games more often than not, as this will be a tough league. I can see many people, on here and in the Cowshed, equating that with Jim McInally. It will be because of tougher opposition.

I'd like to have seen more new faces, we all would have, however now we are in the situation where the Manager is trying to get in some last minute names before the season starts, and now THAT'S being criticised. Who can win?

Sometimes you have to take a chance on a footballer. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

I'm honestly worried about the ill feeling and negativity at this stage of the season - pre-season!

This is supposed to be the most enthusiastic part of the year for us fans of the smaller clubs - when you aren't bottom of the table yet. When you still have your dreams.

I'd become a bit fed up with Morton to be honest, shock horror I know, but now I'm trying to get my enthusiasm back, it is coming back it's natural at the tail end of July, but I know now what had got me down. It's this place, and other snipers in the Cowshed.

Free speech, aye. Constant greetin and moaning and never being happy, and waiting for the manager or Rae to trip up so you can say "I told you so" - that, I cannot deal with.

I hope Sturm is a cracker and we can secure his services.


So am I Donga, and even MORE worried about the cause of it.

Like yourself I'm trying to generate some enthusiasm for the new season-WHY should I have to?

I'll always give my total support to the players unless I believe somebody's 'at it'.

By the same token, I fail to see why I should be expected to tolerate fools gladly.

The treatment of the fans during the closed season has been a catalogue of blunders allied to a total abrogation of responsibility to keep the paying public informed.

I'm NOT waiting to say 'I told you so'-I've been saying it for bloody ages. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-26 09:21:44 When is the speech to be broadcast?
mortonjag 2007-07-26 09:49:02 I believe Shoogly is haunted by the 'Ghost of Morton Past'-not a benign poltergeist, but an evil reincarnation of a sneering Haldane Y Stewart, who waits 'til the old Bod's nodded off and growls in his ear things like-

Remember McGraw Shoogles-he made us plenty of dosh

Did you put your long Johns in the wash basket?

Millions sales are down again

McInally's run off with the money

etc. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-26 09:50:45
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 26 2007, 01:25 AM) [snapback]303721[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2007-07-26 09:57:45
QUOTE(Youngsa @ Jul 26 2007, 01:58 AM) [snapback]303786[/snapback]
Not if a certain assistant manager at a certain club in Govan is to be believed wink.gif

The rumours about Sir Cliff and Sue were rife throughout the late seventies and early eighties


Rumours about celebrities are always rife-what's the interpretation?

Coisty shagged a Dyke

Coisty shagged a 'Bi'

Coisty shagged a 'hetero'

SIR Cliff Richard may have had a wee shot too.

One thing's fairly certain-rumours were rife! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-26 10:04:46
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 21 2007, 09:05 AM) [snapback]301926[/snapback]
The mad Doctor Mentaljag's bias is exposed at last. Now we know his motivation for constantly baiting the ailing Michael. And that is......................................................................................................................................
He favours Rangers. laugh.gif


Want to bet DE? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-26 10:05:50
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 21 2007, 10:43 AM) [snapback]301948[/snapback]
rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

quelle surprise mais vraiment aucune surprise.

TonInDublin



Jesus speaks pidgin Froggy-whit next? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-26 10:08:42
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 21 2007, 08:28 PM) [snapback]302131[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Sadly yes.

He may be a bigot. unsure.gif


Cut out the politeness Bam-I AM a f*cking bigot-I favour the under (Hun) dogs!


In a couple of season's time I will favour the under (Tim) dogs!

C'est la vie.
mortonjag 2007-07-26 10:11:57
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 26 2007, 01:15 AM) [snapback]303701[/snapback]
ohmy.gif
What else do i call my male chickens?

Rent boys?
mortonjag 2007-07-26 10:13:47
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 26 2007, 08:54 AM) [snapback]303820[/snapback]
Wankbag
Kidney-scraper
Tea-bagger
Rim-licker


WTF's a

WANKBAG?

mortonjag 2007-07-26 10:20:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 26 2007, 09:55 AM) [snapback]303846[/snapback]
Scott was processed by the "Webster Machine" a couple of years ago.

However, it's sad to see that a couple of the current vintage look like being snapped up by the Huns.

The Huns owned a Sydney club - The Northern Spirit, as a recruitment ground.

And now I see that the ex-Hun Craig Moore is with the Queensland Roar.

What is the actress doing ?

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Sitting off stage left sooking his Fudgy Wudgy and praying like f*ck he can sign Sturm and weather the storm.
mortonjag 2007-07-26 10:24:37
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 26 2007, 09:52 AM) [snapback]303844[/snapback]
The chairman was busy preparing a contract for Jani in the Stenny boardroom. tongue.gif




laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


I hereby agree to sign for Greenock Morton Football Club


signed

Deuchar, Sutton, McGowan, Grindlay, Mensing, Jesus

Jani Sturm
mortonjag 2007-07-26 10:28:58
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 26 2007, 10:08 AM) [snapback]303858[/snapback]
Ok, treatment of the fans over various things over the close season, fair enough. How does that seep into matchday? Into player abuse?

What's it to do with them? They're just trying to kick a ball about and put it in a net. The bad feeling grows and affects the players too.

I cannot understand why we're going into the season with so many people saying we're doomed already.


I agree Donga, but I can't supress my feelings of desperate frustration at crass mismanagement just in case some player's too much in awe of his Tin Gods.

Match days and I'm behind them 100% no matter how they play.

They do well-JM gets the credit.

They do badly-JM takes the blame.

That's what he's paid for.
mortonjag 2007-07-26 10:33:29
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 26 2007, 10:10 AM) [snapback]303861[/snapback]
I fully agree with you Donga and am just pleased that someone else feels the same way as me. There is something in the Inverclyde psyche which revels in negativity and is both corrosive and depressing. Its not even the half empty syndrome, its a failure to see anything in the glass at all! There is a hardcore on here who are not happy unless they are dishing out criticism. Everyone's entitled to their opinion but the constant carping is just so wearing!!


What a negative statement-poor Tonsilitis-he's being worn down by the inane prattlings of a few keyboard cowboys, and bases the Psyche of Inverclyde on their delusional grandiosity.

Positivity Man-pull yourself together like a good pair of curtains-no place for negativity any more-ignore those morons! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-26 10:35:55
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jul 26 2007, 10:23 AM) [snapback]303874[/snapback]
Nobody gets out of here , Alive.



Maybe we should 'phone Noah.
mortonjag 2007-07-26 10:43:07
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 26 2007, 10:28 AM) [snapback]303882[/snapback]
I all honesty, would you or anyone else have liked Jim to have signed him last night, I personally would have left it and have another look at him today against Rangers, but if he shines again get it sorted before Saturday.



TBH I've never regarded another striker as THE priority.

I was quite impressed by him last night-I believe he'll do well at first division level.

What's worrying me is that if he signs, this will be rolled out by the Scapa propaganda machine as a big issue.

Finlayson, A.Walker, Stevenson, Sanny, Linn, Mathers, McGowan.

Every one of those was hailed as a 'catch' who would do great things.

If, for example, we'd signed Mensing, that would have spoken for itself.

I still wonder why players have been shunning us if money's available.
mortonjag 2007-07-26 10:49:34
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jul 26 2007, 10:37 AM) [snapback]303890[/snapback]
We won the league by 8 points, we are league championds & not a ball has been kicked in the 1st division yet - why pray tell is he getting it in the neck prom some quarters at the moment?


You clearly are a comedy genius-no wonder you're Sid's double.

Ask NewTon if you must!
mortonjag 2007-07-26 10:56:38
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 26 2007, 10:15 AM) [snapback]303867[/snapback]
A creative swearword, wankbag.


But what does it mean?

The obvious would be condom I suppose, if you suffer from OCD with a bias to cleanliness.

There again it could be a wee ponsy handbag containing a folded copy of a porny picture.

Gordon Brown's definitely a Wankbag mind you-and a scrotum to boot!
mortonjag 2007-07-26 11:01:59 I despair of the depths of depravity to which some posters sink.

Equating Dr Shipman with Sick Mick's bad enough, but the old chap's dead.

Poor show lads. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-26 11:06:19
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jul 26 2007, 10:55 AM) [snapback]303905[/snapback]
Ah - another typically obscure and silly reply form MJ, expected nothing less.

Why should I ask NewTon, why dont you tell me?


I have made my feelings eminently clear on the JM issue Mack-nothing silly or obscure about my take there.

It so happens that NewTon has the PERFECT answer to your question-an answer which might wipe that silly grin of Sid's face (God rest his soul)!
mortonjag 2007-07-26 11:08:02
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 26 2007, 11:06 AM) [snapback]303912[/snapback]
laugh.gif ok he doesn't I got the idea from a Dundee fan on p&b.


Many a true word spoken in jest! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-26 16:13:25
QUOTE(NorgieTon @ Jul 26 2007, 11:26 AM) [snapback]303932[/snapback]
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Well said DONGATON you make far more sense than most of these gibbering monkeys.
won second div easily at the end after we all had nerves, as you said we are lucky to be in the position we are after nearly going to the wall.

It is a well known football fact that the best managers are on the terraces, (for a reason) ha ha

JM is doing ok with limited resources and Douggie's pockets are nor bottomless.

looking forward to the new season and some trips to Scappa.

However Donga yer taste in music is still very suspect. laugh.gif

NorgieTon tongue.gif


SORRY!

We won the Second EASILY rolleyes.gif

JM's got LIMITED RESOURCES laugh.gif

Rae's pockets are not bottomless unsure.gif

Well bless my cotton socks, I could have sworn the massive relief on Shoogly's face at our DEFEAT by Raith allied to Stirling's failure to capitalise, said everything with relation to your first piece of mince!

So JM's got limited resources-that's for sure, but he keeps telling us the money's available. I guess that proves my point.

Finally-if Mr Rae's pockets are not bottomless, why in the name of Fudgy Wudgy is he lying to us about SPL ambitions, and telling us the club's his 'til he croaks?
mortonjag 2007-07-26 18:44:30
QUOTE(GreatKingRat @ Jul 26 2007, 03:45 PM) [snapback]304040[/snapback]
Apparently McGowan's goal was similar to Gascoigne's against Scotland.


That demonstrates great vision.
mortonjag 2007-07-26 18:46:41
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 26 2007, 06:38 PM) [snapback]304122[/snapback]
I appreciate you jest but me, I would sign Sturm, Shields and maybe Seidou (decent reports on the two games he's played) and, if a deal can be done, McGowan maybe on another loan. Coakley I would let go. With that lot on board I would feel a lot better about the season ahead.



I'd have dumped all for for a Mensing type, and still would, but if second best and a cover up's all we're to get-fine!
mortonjag 2007-07-26 18:54:49
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jul 26 2007, 05:55 PM) [snapback]304100[/snapback]
Only Stevenson and Sanny were signed under that guise. McGowan was mentioned as having a bright future, but not much more.

I too would have liked to sign Mensing and I'm sure the club made every effort to get him, but let's face it, he would have had to have been a hardcore Morton fan to turn down an SPL club for us.

Which begs the question of Rae's real ambition I'd suggest.

I've been asking for some forthright honesty, but all we ever get is criticism of criticism, vague comments about SPL ambitions (not so vague according to Andy Bryan), and assertions that GMFC's not for sale.

If the Chairman would make a plain statement of intent- of possibilities versus realities, I for one would accord him much more respect.

As it stands we have been treated like Cretins by a man who appears to see himself above the common 5/8 fan.

I look forward to speech time on 4th August!! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-26 19:03:01
QUOTE(NorgieTon @ Jul 26 2007, 05:19 PM) [snapback]304088[/snapback]
wouldn't hold on too long for Mcgowan, he's not that good.
If the boy Sturm is any good , make him an offer.

I still say the pockets are not bottomless, Ton gates probably don't cover outgoings.

How many six figure signings could we make, of course some of the magnificent football managers on this board could dip into their Fantasy football Accounts and make a few signings.

MORTONJAG as for my opinions being mince, my flavour of mince is probably a nice change of dish from
YOUR mince which seems to make up about 60% of this board's fare.

Its all about opinions

As the guy with the wooden leg said "Its all a matter O' a pinion"

and you MortonJag have more than most, you should stand for Parliamemt

HOT AIR seems to be appreciated at Holyrood.
NorgieTon tongue.gif

You are of course ALMOST as entitled to your opinion as me! wink.gif

I say ALMOST because anyone who thinks we won last year's championship easily is supremely spouting


MINCE
mortonjag 2007-07-26 19:04:39
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jul 26 2007, 05:42 PM) [snapback]304095[/snapback]
Very flawed logic.

Good post from Donga! I hope we sign Sturm too because from the sounds of it he has the potential to be a good player for us, but as Nacho pointed out, he will have his CV on the desk of most managers in the SPL and 1st Division.


It wasn't meant to be logical-just a statement of fact.
mortonjag 2007-07-26 19:08:07
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jul 26 2007, 06:04 PM) [snapback]304106[/snapback]
What are you basing that on Chissiboi? Wasn't McInally in the paper weeks ago saying he was waiting for a forward to come over on trial mid July. Unless you know for certain that it was somone else who's to say that it wasn't Sturm?
Easy, they were top from the first week to the last. They've earned a crack at the first div, it's to Mortons credit that they've been given that chance.

We have a nucleus of decent young players who have in terms of games played have served good apprenticeships and they've still got the time and the capability in them to learn and improve.

If you come back to this at the end of the season I'll be surprised if any of our key players haven't taken the step up in their stride.

These guys deserved their contracts, don't grudge them it.



Depends what you mean-they deserve recognition of their achievement, but if the money's limited, as it now apparently is, I tend to see Chrissiboi's point.

As to placing any credence on McInally promises, I guess the Jury's out.
mortonjag 2007-07-26 19:09:52
QUOTE(GMC @ Jul 26 2007, 06:31 PM) [snapback]304120[/snapback]
He's optimistic about the season ahead but won't go shouting about winning the league.
He's hoping to get another 2 or 3 players in.

That was it.


Extremely diplomatic to the point of being worthless.
mortonjag 2007-07-26 19:14:18
STURM IN PORT-RAE LANDS SLOVENIAN


From tomorrow's Courier rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-26 19:23:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 26 2007, 06:20 PM) [snapback]304116[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,
At least only you, I and the others are reading this thread now.


Should I speak with that actress in Paisley ?

Or would that truly be sedition ?

Or worse still, high treason ?

blink.gif blink.gif

Righteous indignation springs to mind.

Actresses are fawned over by unimaginative little people who crave Public Nonentity status.

Bishops are more useful on chessboards than in dressing rooms.

Maybe the Bishopric of St. James should have an offer of benevolence, since that p***k of a Bishop, (James), isn't interested. mad.gif

mortonjag 2007-07-26 19:25:05
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jul 26 2007, 07:15 PM) [snapback]304145[/snapback]
hopefully sturm
maybe shields
whos the other??


Alan McGraw
mortonjag 2007-07-26 19:29:20
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 26 2007, 11:04 AM) [snapback]303911[/snapback]
It's just the combination of an existing swearword and an ordinary word; like calling someone "dickface" or "pubeheid" or something like that.


I see-like


TURDTOE?
mortonjag 2007-07-26 19:31:08
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 26 2007, 11:10 AM) [snapback]303919[/snapback]
Then vote Shipman you bumbling fool. dry.gif



How dare you call me bumbling? mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-26 19:35:54 Manky-bite the bullet-time is on your side.
mortonjag 2007-07-26 19:38:04
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jul 26 2007, 07:20 PM) [snapback]304148[/snapback]
You are correct however if you inspect the glass properly you will find the contents have been quaffed rendering holding position redundant.


Indicative!
mortonjag 2007-07-26 19:39:30
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 26 2007, 07:36 PM) [snapback]304158[/snapback]
Bum-blasting more like laugh.gif

I paid my 20p-remember Mick-you ripped me off so you deserved everything you got! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-26 19:44:55
QUOTE(Mr H Palms @ Jul 26 2007, 07:34 PM) [snapback]304155[/snapback]
what would you expect him to say? Surely he has to play down any notion that anyone has of winning the league.

Would you have rather he said "this league will be piss easy, no one can stop us, we are the best team in the world"

I hope all the bitching and moaning you and the rest of the doom merchants have come up with during last season and the close season comes back to boot you right in the baws......

I WISH

What was the POINT in agreeing to an interview if he had nothing to say.

The man never says anything short of the extremely obvious.

He might as well have said, 'If we'd managed to sign two or three experienced players for key positions, I'd be quite optimistic, but as it stands, I just have to hope my youngsters will come good at a higher level'.

Would you like me to start scripting his after dinner speeches-I'm sure he'd be an absolute knock out! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-26 19:49:07
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jul 26 2007, 07:42 PM) [snapback]304165[/snapback]
One small step for MJ, one giant leap for reality rolleyes.gif

So now moneys apparently limited? Have I missed something or is this some genuine colourful morton.net gospel?


On the contracts, we have a good but small squad. Surely we can argue about why we seem to be making such hard work of strengthening without trying to undermine the confidence of those already signed up to wear the jerseys this season?

It was always obvious to me Sir.

Reality is dawning on the masses-Shoogly canny afford the SPL, and he won't admit it!
mortonjag 2007-07-26 19:52:02
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Jul 26 2007, 07:45 PM) [snapback]304170[/snapback]
Big pink font won't change my point. We won the league and we didn't have to win the game on the day to do it. I'd say that shows that we went through the league with significant ease. That means we won the league easily.


TRIPE

mortonjag 2007-07-26 19:56:06
QUOTE(Mr H Palms @ Jul 26 2007, 07:49 PM) [snapback]304176[/snapback]
I,d be well happy to finish 7th. God i,d be happy just to stay in the league,

So if you think we will finish 7th why the f*** are you such a doom merchant? Do you expect more?


See thae itchy palms-whit happened tae yer optimism?
mortonjag 2007-07-26 20:03:05
QUOTE(Mr H Palms @ Jul 26 2007, 07:53 PM) [snapback]304182[/snapback]
hey ive been to america 3 times and found the americans to be very pleasant and helpful people, its just when i went to an american holiday resort i found them to be exact opposite.... is that ok?


Maybe they had Jekyll and Hyde personalities-Eczema-how many were there BTW?
mortonjag 2007-07-26 20:07:28
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jul 26 2007, 08:03 PM) [snapback]304187[/snapback]
The only thing that's relevant is what Morton can afford.

If Dougie can balance the books after 5 years in the wilderness I'm fairly confident he can do the same in the business end of the game, bearing in mind that for a club with a small support base it's always going to be a big ask.


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Sorry!
mortonjag 2007-07-26 20:09:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 26 2007, 07:52 PM) [snapback]304180[/snapback]
meaningless ?

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mortonjag 2007-07-26 20:10:50
QUOTE(GMC @ Jul 26 2007, 08:03 PM) [snapback]304188[/snapback]
He answered the questions he was asked, not much more he can do. But then again, everything is McInally's fault in your stupid little world.


...and here was me blaming the bad weather on Global Warming!


mortonjag 2007-07-26 20:13:50
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 26 2007, 08:10 PM) [snapback]304201[/snapback]
Did he?
He forever goes on about how much he's put into the club.
You can't have it both ways.
Is he:
a - bailing the club out financially because we can't balance the books
or b - Balancing the books and therefore misleading us as to the extent of his investment? huh.gif

OR

Not really sure himself, but afraid to ask in case people laugh?
mortonjag 2007-07-26 20:16:24
QUOTE(Mr H Palms @ Jul 26 2007, 08:13 PM) [snapback]304206[/snapback]
You really have no clue have you. He,s saying nothing and playing everything down like every other football manager so he dosent have fools like you getting deluded about how well we may do this season.

And as for the after dinner speech bit. You a script writer? Dont make me laugh wink.gif


Sorry, I just thought he was a tad dim-OH DEAR-a terrible thought JIM the DIM ...that is very, very knotty.
mortonjag 2007-07-26 20:20:15
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Jul 26 2007, 08:16 PM) [snapback]304210[/snapback]
So, what you're trying to say then, is that even though we won more games than anyone ... and significantly so at the time that the league was won, that we still never won the league easily ? That even though we had such a big gap at the top that we could afford to go the rest of the league without winning a game, we still never made a comfortable job of it ?

THAT is tripe.


Sorry to burst your bubble. Saint James of the Immaculate Gameplan himself predicted it would not be easy, and that we'd have to grind out results.

Little did even he know how difficult and painful it would be.

Racehorce beats carthorse by two lengths-whoopy f*ckin' doo!
mortonjag 2007-07-26 20:25:16
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jul 26 2007, 08:21 PM) [snapback]304221[/snapback]
Ok, but we didn't keep them all though did we?

Harding and Greacen are decent players, as the stats show.

Most of the rest have had a few seasons and have improved with it. I see the stability of team and management as a strength, obviously not everyone feels the same smile.gif

I'm halfway between the two of you here. IF we had the resources, I'd probably have hung on to most of the old squad AND reinforced with experienced players.

If the former has been done to the neglect of the latter, the price will ultimately be paid.
mortonjag 2007-07-27 07:02:15
QUOTE(superspy @ Jul 27 2007, 12:09 AM) [snapback]304414[/snapback]
robinson
mcgregor
shields i think
greecen
harry
midge
kevin
jim
peter
jani
sanny

morton made 10 subs at half time with score still 0-0
rangers still had a resonably strong team on when both goals scored
linn looked good and mcgeough also did well

webster,sionko played full game
other played 60-70 mins


Linn has always been available and is a proven goalscorer-now everybody's geting excited about more goalscorers when our defence is still iffy and we have not increased our experience.
mortonjag 2007-07-27 07:06:51
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 26 2007, 08:04 PM) [snapback]304189[/snapback]
blink.gif Dean Keenan played centre half .


DO you REALLY think I'm f*cking stupid Mr Mitchell-I was standing behind the bloody goals and could see the number on his back.

I was merely describing the ROLE he ended up playing in the game where Stenny were rarely a threat anywhere near Robinson. If I'm not mistaken Deano set up one of Sturm's goals as well!
mortonjag 2007-07-27 07:08:16
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 26 2007, 08:11 PM) [snapback]304203[/snapback]
Yep. Killie had him on trial in January, i believe.


JJ said, 'He wasn't quite what we were looking for' I believe.
mortonjag 2007-07-27 07:10:28
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 26 2007, 10:23 PM) [snapback]304308[/snapback]
As said on another thread, I felt a bit that way too, cause of this messageboard and various whingers at the matches. It's supposed to be fun.

I think we are too close to the board and management now. I liked it better when they were unapproachable to be honest. You just went along on a Saturday and saw how the 11 men you supported got on.

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Tell that to NewTon!
mortonjag 2007-07-27 07:13:02
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jul 26 2007, 09:24 PM) [snapback]304269[/snapback]
It's just you who gets treated like a Cretin; he tells the rest of us everything! laugh.gif


I almost believe that! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-27 07:18:14
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 26 2007, 11:17 PM) [snapback]304378[/snapback]
I agree.

jim's got skill, no doubt, and is superfit.

But he flits in and out of games, even HALVES of games. We need more out of him in the first - perhaps if he's played in a different position he could prosper.



Just another talented kid forced to play where JM thinks he fits when he plainly doesn't.
mortonjag 2007-07-27 07:26:14
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 26 2007, 11:28 PM) [snapback]304388[/snapback]
IMO we're heading for a relegation battle with the current squad.

I expect crowds to plummet as a result and apathy already appears to have set in for some.

This is the least I've looked forward to a season in years, strangely.

sad.gif



Correct Bob, but don't forget he IS good at selling sweeties! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-27 07:28:07
QUOTE(div @ Jul 26 2007, 11:36 PM) [snapback]304393[/snapback]
FWIW I think Morton will do very well this season.

I can see Morton finishing 3rd or 4th, maybe even higher.

I can't believe after three torturous seasons in the 2nd division that any Morton fan isn't really looking forward to the new season !

Saturday should be interesting - looks like there will be a few trialists from both teams playing.


Spill the beans then-what's the big secret=-are we about to sign beckham from LA? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-27 07:30:03
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 27 2007, 12:15 AM) [snapback]304418[/snapback]
In my opinion if we signed those players it would do much more than save our season. I think you'd be looking at a 3rd / 4th / 5th place finish.

I think you are overly pessimistic. I agree we'd struggle with the present squad but I still don't think we'd get relegated.


Jenkins definitely-Sturm aye-then another couple of defenders and I'd agree with you.
mortonjag 2007-07-27 07:31:47
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 27 2007, 12:18 AM) [snapback]304419[/snapback]
C'Mon Donga, with all due respect what planet are you living on.
7 out and 3 in and you think we've strengthened blink.gif

Even bringing McGowan back isn't strengthening as he was there last season.

JM has seriously f***ed up as a Manager.

More money than the rest of the Division put together and he still can't sign anyone, despite having all these contacts in the game blink.gif


And STILL nobody can explain WHAT'S going on.

Shoogly and Puppet Show needs experienced producer.
mortonjag 2007-07-27 08:57:05
QUOTE(morton14 @ Jul 27 2007, 08:10 AM) [snapback]304500[/snapback]
Now Div don't you go being positive on here, cue blinkered JM lover comments, as you will spoil the gloom merchants fun! I forgot how many good goals we scored last year until I watched the you tube clips, it's easy to forget we won the league comfortably. I can't believe that we finally get out of the 2nd Division and some people say that they are not looking forward to the season ahead. Roll on Saturday!!

With a comment like that nobody's going to read anything you post seriously.

Incidentally what you've just written is hardly novel-it's the standard indoctrination from the Shooglyphile catechism. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-27 09:06:57
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 27 2007, 08:48 AM) [snapback]304507[/snapback]
I wonder if he is instead of McGowan or Sturm?

FACE SAVER FOR CASH STRAPPED SHOOGLY



...and will toddle back to Ibrox after potty training.

Great wee player-will score goals, and excite the crowds-I'm not being entirely negative, but clearly this is what we've come to.

No youth policy, no signings-

NO F*CKIN' IDEA


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mortonjag 2007-07-27 10:30:27
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 27 2007, 09:12 AM) [snapback]304517[/snapback]
Love the pink font.

Just shows your anger off well!! rolleyes.gif


I'm not angry Sean, I'm f***in'

RAGING!

mortonjag 2007-07-27 10:33:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 27 2007, 10:10 AM) [snapback]304543[/snapback]
No youth policy, no signings-
Whit ???

The actress told me that we have a youth policy.


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Really-well she would wouldn't she-she said she can't afford one but if anybody tells her or the Bishop about promising young players they'll definitely listen! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-27 10:35:38
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jul 27 2007, 10:17 AM) [snapback]304546[/snapback]
Another thread immediately hijacked by the 2 old farts.


Perhaps someone may quote this old fart for the benefit of the latest huff button test driver.

The two old farts clearly know FAR MORE about this issue than the Shooglyphiles.
mortonjag 2007-07-27 10:38:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 27 2007, 09:04 AM) [snapback]304513[/snapback]

Gidday mortonjag and chrissiboi,

Is tomorrow Saturday ?


blink.gif blink.gif



Tomorrow newt, in Bonnie Scotland it will be Saturday July 28th-all day I'm told!

Do I sense more Episcopalian procrastination? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-27 10:42:27
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jul 27 2007, 09:16 AM) [snapback]304519[/snapback]
Good idea Ken


Aye good idea Ken-nothing wrong with reasoned optimism, but some of the eejits on here undoubtedly stuck up for arsehole Scott JUST because he was chairman.

Open your eyes man-we came a long way-tell me where were now headed please! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-27 10:54:16
QUOTE(morton14 @ Jul 27 2007, 09:41 AM) [snapback]304533[/snapback]
8 Points & 16 goals better than Stirling and top of league from start to finish, I thought that was fairly comfortable. I'm not too fussed if people take anything I post seriously and the words 'pot & kettle' spring to mind.


It was NEVER comfortable as JM asserted.

Why are you attempting to defend the indefensible?

The look on Rae's face as he was bounced in the air by his weans at Kircaldy after they BLEW IT YET AGAIN said everything-for once Stirling slipped and we'd won despite the manager's incredible catalogue of blunders and stubborn persistence with jaded players, and his Celtic Golden Boy, while others eagerly knocked at the door of jigsaw puzzle house.

'Pot and kettle' Sir- I think you'll find that almost everything I've said which has been seriously opposed has proven correct-starting with-'we'll win despite JM-- Kev Finlayson-saint or sinner--through the 'Taxi' thread, and Spoonsy NEVER being a right back, to my current assessment of the running of the club.

FFS even in Stenny's throw away programme on Wednesday they were commenting on how Morton had got promotion AT LONG LAST, and after five years.

It's a f*cking disaster at Scapa IMO-it may take a season or two before things are changed, but mark my words- Rae on his own will NEVER get us any further.
mortonjag 2007-07-27 11:21:55
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 26 2007, 08:25 PM) [snapback]304228[/snapback]
Doesn't really work Jag.

Try something like c***dome or s***ehawk.


Yeh-but all thae we stars spoil it BH


Moronminge?
mortonjag 2007-07-27 11:25:06
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 26 2007, 08:20 PM) [snapback]304216[/snapback]
Sorry codger. tongue.gif


How dare you call me sorry? mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-27 11:31:57
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 26 2007, 10:45 PM) [snapback]304344[/snapback]
The Mortonjag-Newton axis is less popular than the German-Italian one of the 1930s.
Do they have matching uniforms as well? ohmy.gif tongue.gif


Explain! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-27 11:34:35
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 26 2007, 11:49 PM) [snapback]304405[/snapback]
I gave him one to keep his ego at a healthy pressure.


Liar - it was Sick Mick-and he only TRIED to give me one-after that 20p fiasco I turned him down.
mortonjag 2007-07-27 11:36:13
QUOTE(Youngsa @ Jul 27 2007, 12:45 AM) [snapback]304433[/snapback]
Posters on here are the lifeblood whether you think they post s***e or otherwise. Some post stuff that gets you thinking and questioning your own viewpoint, others (like myself)just post unadulterated pish BUT lets face it this place would be dead without them.

As someone less famous than me once said Opinions are like arseholes - everybodys got one laugh.gif


..and Sick Mick's is always f*cked up.
mortonjag 2007-07-27 11:40:54
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 27 2007, 09:51 AM) [snapback]304539[/snapback]
Jobby!


JOBBY WANKERS
mortonjag 2007-07-27 11:46:03
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jul 27 2007, 11:33 AM) [snapback]304591[/snapback]
Haha i realised when i wrote my reply that it sounded more sarcastic than my firt post!!

How people can turn the possible loan signing of one of the best young talents in Scotland into a negative is simply beyond me.



For the simple reason that it's a cop out and dereliction of duty.

I'm not suggesting that Lennon's not a good player-I've said he'll score goals and excite the crowds, but he's just another loose piece of patchwork on Shoogly's crumbling 'SPL bound' wreck.

In my opinion that's VERY negative.
mortonjag 2007-07-27 12:01:22
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jul 27 2007, 11:53 AM) [snapback]304604[/snapback]
It;s a dereliction of duty to sign a player on loan who will strengthen the team? Was McGowan a dereliction of duty aswel?

SPL bound?!? haha are you really moaning because you think that our teams going to get to the SPL and then fall apart?!?


If we had signed our experienced motivator instead of McGowan, we WOULD have walked the league. In that sense the answer is YES.

We have signed ONE player from Alloa, and I believe one wean from Celtic who wasn't very impressive at Stenny.

I'm 'moaning' because Rae has repeatedly claimed he's steering us to the SPL-that is now a patent joke-almost as laughable as the concept of 'consolidation', the euphemism for having 'lost the plot'.
mortonjag 2007-07-27 12:06:47
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jul 27 2007, 12:00 PM) [snapback]304607[/snapback]
I don't agree that it's a cop out in any sense.

We are, potentially, going to see one of the best young prospects in Scotland playing for us. I'm sure he's capable of being an excellent player at this level. That's GOT to be a good thing.

He's not a long term solution, but that's way football has become. Short term contracts and loans are the way most clubs do business now - you can't blame Dougie for the overall culture of football.


IF it was a loan of an experienced player in a key position Dear Trumpet-I'd agree-but it's a

COP OUT

mortonjag 2007-07-27 12:08:27
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 27 2007, 12:03 PM) [snapback]304611[/snapback]
We will know tomorrow, assuming trialists are allowed in the Renfrewshire Cup. I reckon if Sturm is there we will sign him. I think Lennon is to replace McGowan because Celtic are playing hardball. I also think we will sign Shields as McInally has a high regard for him. I hope we don't sign Coakley as having seen him twice, I am not very impressed. I also think we will sign one other which could be the French guy?, although if Jenkins was available and affordable, I would prefer him.

I think that going on about Lennon as though he is our last signing is a bit premature. Jim has been in the paper saying that he was looking for another 2 or 3 signings and so that's what I expect to see. I prefer to have our own players but there's nothing wrong with decent loan signings either. Ask St Mirren or Stirling or any number of other clubs.

Some people are just too willing to turn every positive into a negative and this is something we should be celebrating, not carping about.

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mortonjag 2007-07-27 12:10:28
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jul 27 2007, 11:42 AM) [snapback]304597[/snapback]
No problem MJ I can help you out here - we are headed into the 1st Division for the first time in years and I for one am looking forward to it !!!


I genuinely hope you're not disappointed, but suspect you're a masochist anyway! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-27 12:12:07
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 27 2007, 12:05 PM) [snapback]304612[/snapback]
3 more gone from Clyde.


How f*cking fascinating-are you just trying to emphasise the masterless inactivity at Scapa?
mortonjag 2007-07-27 12:14:16
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jul 27 2007, 11:45 AM) [snapback]304599[/snapback]
WANKERS WITH JOBBY BAWS!!!!!!


USELESS WANKERS WITH NAE JOBBY BAWS
mortonjag 2007-07-27 12:15:50
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jul 27 2007, 11:26 AM) [snapback]304587[/snapback]
laugh.gif Where can you get one of them tongue.gif


JM will lend you his as he only uses it for the first game of the season.
mortonjag 2007-07-27 12:30:34
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 27 2007, 12:18 PM) [snapback]304623[/snapback]
Bookmarked!



laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I wasn't so much laughing at the improbability of two or three signings as the apparent reliance on anything JM says.

Will we make any SIGNIFICANT signings Tonsilitis?

Will anybody explain the ongoing obsession with children in midfield and attack at the expense of some bloody experience and solidity in the boilerhouse/defence?

Is it really SO difficult to attract players-what's the problem-or do you still believe in the masterplan fairytale?
mortonjag 2007-07-27 12:34:56
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 27 2007, 12:31 PM) [snapback]304632[/snapback]
If Lennon is as good as folk suggest then it can only be a good thing for us. At this stage our squad still looks thin so any signing of quality whether loan or otherwise is fine by me.


Provided it's not at the expense of signing some experience?
mortonjag 2007-07-27 12:38:53
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 27 2007, 12:30 PM) [snapback]304629[/snapback]
See how yir baws drop during yir early teens, do they return backup the way when your past it? Surely they are of no use once your, your age


Mine dropped before I was born Sonny Bean!

I just checked there, and would you believe it, the wee bag's still got a chuckie on either side.

I was going to add that I get my nookie at least twice a week, but I won't in case somebody gets jealous.

Ask Sick Mick if you disbelieve me.
mortonjag 2007-07-27 12:51:21
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jul 27 2007, 12:37 PM) [snapback]304637[/snapback]
The window isn't shut yet and we sem to have a few players in our sights. We'll have to agree to disagree on the walking the league issue. With our current squad i'd be expecting to end this season in around 6th position which i'd be relatively happy with. It's our first season back with the semi big boys afterall. If we add a few players then who knows? Maybe Lennon will come in and get us promoted and we'll all be raving about the master stroke signing by our top manager and savvy chairman?

Where do you see us finishing MJ?

Peronally i can't wait for the season to start.

gies a smile!

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The trouble is rex that I get slaughtered for posting so often, but if you'd read my previous posts I'd not need to answer.

I've said repeatedly that the current squad with two or three experienced players in key positions could challenge for promotion.

That is what I hoped for. JM agreed towards the end of last season that we need experience.

As it stands, I still believe we'll end up mid table. What's angering me is the disrespectful silence from Rae towards the fans. If all is in order he only has to say so-instead he just girns his face off when we girn and can't see the total irony in that.

If he had the balls to say-'Morton is mine 'til I snuff, but as I can't afford any better we'll probably drift along in the middle of the First Division-so like it or lump it', at least we'd know where we stood.

That, I strongly suspect, is EXACTLY the situation-where is the promise of SPL football now?
mortonjag 2007-07-27 12:57:31
QUOTE(Jamie_M @ Jul 27 2007, 12:48 PM) [snapback]304650[/snapback]
Lennon

I so hope this is true. Lennon is a class act of a young player. He's highly thought of by Rangers, not just because of the hat trick in the youth cup final - was maybe even expected to make the breakthrough THIS season.

If he comes, they've obviously decided to do what they did with Charlie Adam - send him off to a first division title challenging team and get him used to the pressures of expectation associated with vieing for honours!! wink.gif Bring him back a year later and he's in the first team squad - playing against his adopted team in the SPL! wink.gif Sounds good to me.

Loan Deals

What is wrong with utilising loan deals? If it's good enough for teams in the Premiership and the SPL, then loan deals are certainly not above Morton. How many young players have came down from the grizzly 2 on a full time basis and not made the grade? There's been more than a few. Why take the chance with a permenant deal when you can have the security (and probably lower cost) of loaning the guy, giving him the chance, then if it works out maybe making a move for a permentant deal (although that won't happen with Lennon!)

Loan deals are also great for getting players that you normally wouldn't have a hope in hell of signing on a permenant basis. There's no way Rangers will be selling Lennon any time soon. Our only way to get him is through a loan and that's what we might be doing. No Brainer!

It's not a cop out. It's not papering over the cracks. It's a bona fide method of acquiring new players in the current footballing world and we're using it to our advantage. Awesome!

Experience

Time to open a can of worms into the experience debate, just a question - do we actually NEED it anymore? We've been crying out for experience for years. We have. We've missed it - but that was the second division. A league of bruisers who kick their way through the season and experienced old warhorses tend to get the job done.

We've finally escaped that hell hole - is experience as big an issue any more? The first division is a much more competitive league, but it's more of a footballing league so our players who like to play decent football should flourish.

Look at Gretna - they had an ageing team of old pro's that got them through the 3rd and 2nd Divisions. They got to the first and binned half of them - instead going for youthful exuberance - and look what happened there? SPL and having a laugh.

I'm not saying if we get the chance to sign a talented, experienced midfielder we shouldn't take it - we should. But it's not the end of the world if we don't.


All your points are valid in general.

In Morton's case it is a 'cop out' unless we sign at least two more players in the next week.

Last year's cup tie at Broadwood was the perfect contradiction to your final assertion, mind you. I'm not just talking about 'long in the tooth'-we need somebody with a passion to win, the ability to kick ass and cajole, and some street wisdom to pass to our kids. WE DO NEED THAT for next season, and it will NOT come from Lennon.
mortonjag 2007-07-27 13:04:53
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jul 27 2007, 12:56 PM) [snapback]304664[/snapback]
Where did Dougie say this about the SPL by the way? not arguing with it just haven't read it anywhere. The last thing i read him saying was in the Championship tele thing where he never mentioned the SPL at all and the talk all seemed to be about consolidation.


Unfortunately I can't possibly trawl through enough to copy and paste but it's been trotted out several times over the years that we we're SPL bound.

The most palpable evidence was the well publicised appointment last season of Andy Bryan as Kit Manager to the Scotland Squad.

Andy was very clearly and unambiguously quoted-I paraphrase...

'I discussed matters with Jim McInally and Crawford Rae-and they made it clear we're heading for the SPL. They persuaded me to stay at Cappielow'.
mortonjag 2007-07-27 13:16:04
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 27 2007, 12:36 PM) [snapback]304635[/snapback]
I don't think you are stupid but certainly lacking in the football knowledge you think you have - he didn't end up occupying a defensive midfield role neither did he set Sturm up for either of his goals.


Are we now going to have another lengthy debate about definitions? I thought it was a long ball forward from Keenan which was played across to Sturm for one of his goals-maybe that is wrong.

I don't profess to have 'MORE' football knowledge than I have-I merely call it as I see it.

What I DO notice repeatedly is that the youngsters on our forums are so tied up in formations, numbers on players backs and so on that they make everything else fit.

If Deano's main contribution on Wednesday night had been continually winning headers and tackles in or near the box, and against Stenny 'strikers'-I'd have agreed with 'centre back'. As it was he played for most of the time a good bit further forward, with Gilbride providing cover.

I already said I DID see the number on his shirt! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-27 13:19:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 27 2007, 01:15 PM) [snapback]304683[/snapback]
Does that mean that today is Friday ?

Bingo bongo.

QED


Indeed it is Friday as I post, and at this very moment a goodly proportion of my neighbours are at worship.
mortonjag 2007-07-27 13:30:12 Given the present squad, I expect us to start pretty well-wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if we take a couple of early scalps.

Then the lack of experience and managerial nous allied to last season's creeping lethargy will set in, and we'll end up a yo yo team, never knowing how we'll play from one week to the next.
mortonjag 2007-07-27 13:38:07
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jul 27 2007, 01:10 PM) [snapback]304679[/snapback]
I wish people would stop f*****g moaning. Some people in our support are NEVER happy. I mean the day we lifted the trophy there were a few dozen killjoys moaning that we weren't trying and shouting abuse.

We have JUST won the second division and already people are negatively speculating that we are going to be stuck in the First for years with no hope of reaching the top league.

Lets get realistic; Morton started over as a club in 2001 from nothing. Six years later we have a pretty talented squad, many of whom are on long-term contracts, many of whom who have played together as a unit for a good while now and who showed what they are capable of against Kilmarnock in January. The youth set-up is beginning to bear fruit, guys are taking the step-up, people post about these guys who they've caught at reserve matches constantly and how promising they are. Morton's current infrastructure was only built from the bottom SIX years ago, the seeds of a proper youth set-up were only really planted five or maybe even four years ago.

Get behind the team, trust the glaringly obvious, McInally is a good manager who knows what he is doing and who knows how to man manage. He has the contacts at the highest level and the loan signing of this excellent prospect, at worst as good as Paul McGowan, is proof. He is only going to sign people who are right for the club and considering we are trying to make the most of the money available that is great. There are actual signings ahead in the coming week, he has done his homework and will buy well, no doubt.

Eight days till the new season and people are already ripping the club they claim to support to shreds.....

C'mon the Ton!


You are utterly comical on that issue-McInally IMHO is a Rookie manager who's shown little evidence of improvement, and whose man management and motivational skills appear virtually non-existent.

His 'contacts at the highest level' have produced McAnespie, a fresh faced kid from Cellic, and a loan of convenience at the Huns instance.

I look forward to those ACTUAL signings ahead in the coming week-FAR TOO LATE to blend with the existing squad-but aye-JM knows exactly what he's up to. Ask NewTON! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-27 13:51:34
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jul 27 2007, 01:19 PM) [snapback]304689[/snapback]
1.First Year back in Div 1 - Consolidation and mid table - Yes Please.

2."Mine 'til I snuff it"
- please post link to quote from Mr Rae on this one. As I have heard him say he would sell to someone who has Morton at heart and would have the financial might to take them further.

3. I dont remember Mr Rae "promise" that we would get to the SPL at the first time of asking - again a link to an actual quote would be nice.

4. Disrespectful silence from Mr Rae - I find this very funny ideed considering the abuse he gets from some on this board for saying too much!!!! - He really cant win.


Far from my producing quotes give me yours for your assertion at 2 above.

He has been quoted more than once as saying bluntly-'Greenock Morton is not for sale'.

If you check the date of our last game against Raith, and look up the archives for the 'Sun' that morning-the same story was carried in another tabloid-he CATEGORICALLY stated that 'As long as there was breath in his body-Morton would stay in the Rae family'.
mortonjag 2007-07-27 13:56:49
QUOTE(Bungle @ Jul 27 2007, 01:27 PM) [snapback]304695[/snapback]
Think we'd all love an experienced guy in midfield but the Clyde game is no more valid a yardstick of our ability than the cup wins we had. If they can be written off as good days then surely that was possibly a bad day.

Alan Mahoods return shows that its not a foolproof scheme to success anyway. Needs to be a guy who still has something to offer and that is willing to come to us (non SPL compliant stadium et al). Those players are few and far between.


The yardstick was the painfully repeated muggings by Div 2 sides of inferior ability Bungle-the Clyde game threw our lack of street wisdom in the spotlight, while the Kiliie and St Johnstone games (funny how everybody forgets the Motherwell one) showed the lads CAN play football.
mortonjag 2007-07-27 14:07:23
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jul 27 2007, 01:36 PM) [snapback]304703[/snapback]
I reckon we'll go on an unbeaten run until the end of February.


...and?
mortonjag 2007-07-27 14:11:49
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jul 27 2007, 02:02 PM) [snapback]304717[/snapback]
Maybe I am overly optimistic. I would be lying if I were to say McInally hasn't made some very worrying decisions previously, but in my honest opinion, he is the man to take us forward and I don't think he is lacking in motivational skills whatsoever. I think he knows what he is doing. I think he gets the best most of the time from the players and has kept his cool under our support's famous pressure.

Either way, the season ahead will probably prove one of us wrong............


And nothing I say will convince you or the rest of the Shooglyphiles that I'D LOVE TO BE PROVEN WRONG. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-27 14:14:18
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jul 27 2007, 12:45 PM) [snapback]304646[/snapback]
blink.gif are you a catholic priest?

F*CK ME-I'VE FINALLY BLOWN IT unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-27 14:29:36
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jul 27 2007, 02:21 PM) [snapback]304733[/snapback]
The fact that you use a phrase like "get my nookie" merely emphasises your advancing years grandad.

Although you can probably prescribe yourself some cream/viagra/ a balloon pump etc.

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What colloquialism for fornication would be your preference young Sir?

When in my teens, we talked of 'Shagging'-the expression went out of use for countless years but is now back in vogue!

I assure you I have no need for cream, viagra or that other thing you seem to have so much knowledge of!

BTW I actually get it

every night

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mortonjag 2007-07-27 14:33:09
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 27 2007, 02:24 PM) [snapback]304737[/snapback]
Too easy.


What age was the oldest Granny you've shagged Mick-or was the word f*cked-I can't remember-anyway you'll know what I mean.

Are you into threesomes BTW?
mortonjag 2007-07-27 14:37:51
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 27 2007, 02:22 PM) [snapback]304734[/snapback]
What he said.

I've said this countless times - every race/nationality/religion/colour etc etc is 95% decent people and 5% w*nker.
And the rule applies equally in Scotland.

TonInDublin


Thankfully Jesus won't see this as he's pushed the huff button!

95% of humanity is decent!!!!!!!!!


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BORN IN SIN AND SHAPEN IN INIQUITY-MAN-THE DEFINITIVE ANIMAL

Not sure the Glesca Polis would agree with him!
mortonjag 2007-07-27 14:40:01
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jul 27 2007, 02:38 PM) [snapback]304751[/snapback]
Fair enough, in retrospect the phrase "get my nookie" said in a Benny Hill style voice (milk bottle specs optional) is probably appropriate for an elderly Kelvinside GP.

...and for Mortonjag? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-27 14:41:44
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 27 2007, 02:37 PM) [snapback]304749[/snapback]
Well, that's rank.


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I take it the answer's 'No'.
mortonjag 2007-07-27 14:46:49
QUOTE(Mick @ Jul 27 2007, 02:25 PM) [snapback]304738[/snapback]
MJ, this board is, as you have expressed previously, all about opinions.

IMHO, you won't be convinced of the positives of the work done in recent years in the same way that many on here do not require (or wish) to be convinced about your point of view. Please, therefore, enough of the bad chat (seriously, 9,000+ posts!!). It's embarrassing.


Fortunately I do not require (or wish) to be convinced about your point of view. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-27 14:49:30
QUOTE(floydpink26 @ Jul 27 2007, 02:36 PM) [snapback]304747[/snapback]
Mortonjag ..ive read your pish for months now without saying anything, by f*** its been hard but no longer can i remain silent.You proceed to question everything that comes out of cappielow with a negative attitude.Why?..
Douglas Rae came in with his money when no 1 else would...saved the club..brought it forward more in the last 6 years than any chairman i have seen at cappielow in my 25 years of watching.Has a manager and assistant who give there all in there jobs.Has helped along with McInally to put a good young team together(most of which have been together now for 3 seasons plus).You seem to think experience is the answer to everything(Mahood,McLaren,Lilley).I'd say our team is very experienced given the time its been together.You say that Dougie promised to get us to the SPL,i dont recall him saying that.He has stated time and again that we will get back to where we belong(the 1st division)and then take it from there.Then you go on about McInally being a puppet,you gotta be joking.If that was the case the likes of Williams would still be here and McInally would be gone(but maybe u'd prefer that).Why dont you do us all a favour n get a grip of yer whining,support the team,management,players and be thankfuly for what we have.We are lucky to have a team at all,we are lucky we have a chairman like Rae who cares about the club and is actually a bigger supporter of Morton than you or i will ever be.And luckily for me some 1 has pointed out there is an Ignore button facillity....HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN!!!!

Support your team,give them half a chance eh...they might suprise you.

Edited to say..
Stevie Lennon will do me nicely on loan (hopefully for the season)

Where have I heard this all before? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-27 14:52:40
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 27 2007, 02:44 PM) [snapback]304758[/snapback]
I'm on the verge of agreement. The big fonts really do it for me. Just the idea that what Mortonjag posts is sooooo important it has to be five times bigger than anything else is the height of narcissism, and I'm fast growing tired of it.

Anyway, on topic, Lennon was part of the Rangers side that was the 2nd least prolific team in the SPL Reserves last season. I can't find statistics for him individually - and can't be bothered piecing them together off www.scotprem.com - but the entire team scored 26 goals in 22 games. (Then again, I don't think McGowan was that prolific before he got here.)

I'd prefer to see permanent signings rather than loan deals, but I don't understand the immediate antipathy to them. McGowan proved himself to be an excellent signing and Lennon may well do the same - indeed I'd say he's closer to the Rangers first team than McGowan was to the Celtic first team (although that probably isn't saying much, given that Rangers are crap and Celtic have 10000 strikers) - and above all, he'll be a hungry young player looking to impress. So it's really not the end of the world... is it? unsure.gif

If Lennon is our *only* signing - even our only forward signing - that's another story, but I really don't have a problem with Morton signing players on loan. It's a very popular thing to do on the Continent and it's becoming more and more popular here, particularly as the biggest clubs expand their youth and reserve structure. We can either take advantage of it or we can ignore it. I know which I'd rather have...

... but not at the expense of the development of the squad. That part's important, and we'll see how it goes.


May I humbly ask if the irony was deliberate? happy.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-27 15:03:10
QUOTE(jenmar @ Jul 27 2007, 02:47 PM) [snapback]304760[/snapback]
I would be the first to agree that Jim McInally has made mistakes but he did get us promoted. Douglas Rae too has made mistakes but he has undoubtably Morton at heart. How many clubs can say that about their Chairperson? He has had the odd rant about people on the messageboard eg Mortonjag, but who can blame him?

The days of signing players for transfer fees and on long-term contracts are all but gone. Even Man U sign players on loan on short-term contracts.

Please don't resort to name-calling ie Shooglyphiles, when someone disagrees with you. It does nothing for you case.

Keying-in in large size and colour does not prove your case.

I too have been critical of some of the decisions of JM and DR but at least give them a chance in division 1 to prove themselves.

I have no f*cking choice-haven't you noticed.

I'll call the sycophants who have no factual information yet get a sun tan every time Mr Rae bends forward 'Shooglyphiles' if I wish.

Shoogly is an affectionate term coined by another poster and I find it rather fetching. His lovers are by definition 'Shooglyphiles'.

Keying in large size and colour is not intended to PROVE anything


BUT IT SURE ATTRACTS ATTENTION
mortonjag 2007-07-27 15:20:52
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jul 27 2007, 02:09 PM) [snapback]304723[/snapback]
1. Q&A with Chairman & Crawford Rae
2. No problem with that - he is not actively trying to sell the club - no for sale sign up - good stability.
3. Did not read this and could not find it - would like to know what context it was in e.g. was it in reply to a question re: the ability of Morton to survive and whether his family were interested in off loading the club? If it was just a statement from knowhere then it would certainly seem shortsighted as who knows what is round the corner. MJ - I really did not have you down as someone who would take as Gospel everything they read in the Sun, infact I did not have you down as a Sun reader full stop - it's all starting to make sense now.

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I get the Herald for the serious stuff, and the Sun for the tits and the football (sometimes the same thing).

Shoogly gave an interview on the eve of what was to be our glorious victory over Raith.

He claimed that over the previous year he had knocked back several offers worth millions of pounds, and stated quite categorically that 'As long as there was breath in his body, GMFC would remain in the family'.

It would seem that he stated something quite different at the Q & A meeting-had he forgotten-had he changed his mind-does he just say what seems most appropriate at any given time?
mortonjag 2007-07-27 15:25:01
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 27 2007, 03:15 PM) [snapback]304781[/snapback]
can you please stop it or i may edit everytime you do it....


Bryan-you're so polite! wink.gif

Am I breaking the rules of the game?

I just like practising my keyboard skills-don't want to be accused of being an old fuddy duddy! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-27 15:39:20
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 27 2007, 02:53 PM) [snapback]304766[/snapback]
let me put another scenario to you.

IF say, a very rich Morton fan based abroad gets a 3rd party to approach DDF Rae to enquire as to the availability of Morton being for sale, WOULD we as fans be happy if this approach was dismissed out of hand without listening to the facts of the proposition.

Is the above statement the full stop. Morton are not for sale to ANYONE, for ANY amount of money.
What if the potential investor was planning to take Morton to a level we have NEVER reached, would the club still NOT be for sale?


Barbie-I think this may be an appropriate point for information.

Almost four weeks ago an approach was made to the club by a staunch supporter with an offer of sourcing young talent AND funding their early days at Cappielow-to the tune of five figures over two years.

One of the proteges of the source (whom he coached for 5 years) is currently in the Celtic first team, and several play for senior British Clubs.

Despite repeated promptings to DDFR and the staff by the supporter, and a personal e-mail to JM 15 days ago from the Coach, giving his full details, CV, and mobile/personal 'phone numbers, he has not heard ONE WORD from Greenock.

That seems strange behaviour from the club-almost inexplicable I'd suggest.


mortonjag 2007-07-27 15:40:54
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 27 2007, 03:07 PM) [snapback]304777[/snapback]
Neither did I!


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mortonjag 2007-07-27 15:43:10
QUOTE(franco @ Jul 27 2007, 03:14 PM) [snapback]304780[/snapback]
You've certainly consolidated your views MJ!

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mortonjag 2007-07-27 15:49:13
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jul 27 2007, 03:46 PM) [snapback]304804[/snapback]
Can we cease with the giant pink letters please! They're really beginning to grate...


CERTAINLY SIR!

mortonjag 2007-07-27 15:51:56
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 27 2007, 03:46 PM) [snapback]304805[/snapback]
Post all you posts in one go, it doesn't take up much space on my screen, but for those that don't have you on ignore it must take up a hell of a lot of space.

You clearly want to up your post count, on most forums you would be banned for multiple posting.


I 'd happily have my post count reset to keep you weans happy.

You seem to be something of a specialist in this 'multiple posting' field, young man! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-27 15:55:38
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Jul 27 2007, 03:44 PM) [snapback]304802[/snapback]
Sorry MJ but when did supporting a football right ever give any single supporter the right to a democratic voice on the running of the club. blink.gif

Of course you don't have a choice! (And IMHO thank f*** for that tongue.gif ) And unless you become the majority shareholder or chairman of the club then you never will.

C'mon the Ton

Onwards and upwards!!

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That's what I said-unusual to have my views supported!
mortonjag 2007-07-27 15:57:25
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jul 27 2007, 03:55 PM) [snapback]304812[/snapback]
MJ would moan no matter who we were signing. Anyway, have heard good reports of Lennon and it would probably work out well as he will be desperate to prove himself week-in week-out as McGowan was last season. If the club goes from season to season loaning one really good player, I don't have a problem with that. Sure it would be good to have all these talented players on permanent deals, but there just isn't the money in football at the moment. We are one of the few SFL clubs to have the majority of players on long-term deals.

Don't talk s***e!
mortonjag 2007-07-27 16:23:52
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 27 2007, 04:19 PM) [snapback]304829[/snapback]
Well 'spotted' Pedro, although i'm slightly worried how your brain jumped to the conclusion it was an arse being skelped.


Di beat... eh sukie
mortonjag 2007-07-27 17:30:51
QUOTE(floydpink26 @ Jul 27 2007, 04:44 PM) [snapback]304840[/snapback]
Says the biggest brown mouth in the history of the internet.


Indeed-are you saying I'm a liar?
mortonjag 2007-07-27 17:35:41
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jul 27 2007, 05:10 PM) [snapback]304849[/snapback]
That is very interesting MJ, very interesting indeed, also very disappointing if his contact hasn't even been acnowledged.

I admire your sticking to your guns and all but I don't like being called a sycophant just because I oppose your views, your grouping us all under one name here. I am not that enamoured with Mr Rae or his outbursts at times and my opinion on this thread has got jack all to with him. I pay my money to go to matches all season long, buy a programme, new home top whenever there is one and buy my lotto ticket, no more, no less. I contribute to the club but I don't hold it in such high regard that I suck up to it, thanks.........

So interesting that it merits one sentence from you but at least you acknowledged the post!

I'm not specifically calling you or any individual a sycophant-but there are plenty on the board Bug-it's a case of 'if the cap fits, wear it'.

I'd suggest en passant that 'disappointing' in the first sentence could easily be replaced by mystifying-what do you think?
mortonjag 2007-07-27 17:44:57
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 27 2007, 04:30 PM) [snapback]304837[/snapback]
schlagen Sie dieses Rückseite Baby smile.gif

frapper la derriere!
mortonjag 2007-07-27 17:48:05
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 27 2007, 04:42 PM) [snapback]304839[/snapback]
I did genuinely vote for you in the second one.
Ego at a steady pressure again.
I do not lie, but speak half-truths. wink.gif


Well I voted for WDE as the best and Chocolate boy as the worst-one has a great sense of humour and the ridiculous-the other has neither.
mortonjag 2007-07-27 17:49:45 I have met two posters-ONCE!
mortonjag 2007-07-27 19:27:44
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 27 2007, 06:29 PM) [snapback]304886[/snapback]
emailing the manager seems odd as he doesnt use a pc.........


The e-mail was sent FAO the Manager to the appropriate e-mail address at Morton, Bryan-and only AFTER several e-mails had passed to and fro between Crawford Rae, Douglas Rae, and two other members of staff to the source, AND after fruitless attempts to contact JM by 'phone.

Every piece of correspondence has been saved.
mortonjag 2007-07-28 06:33:30
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 27 2007, 08:42 PM) [snapback]304977[/snapback]
What I notice is that some of the older posters on our forum are ignorant of formations, how our team is set up during a match, where our players play during a match and the differences between specific positions on a football field wink.gif




Really -I could have sworn JM didn't post here! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-28 06:37:22 We will be desperate to win this-so much to prove for so many at Scapa-the Skunks will be more laid back until we go ahead-then their fans will get it into them and they'll up their game to equalise in the second half.

Spoonsy will score the winner with a low drive in the last 15 minutes.
mortonjag 2007-07-28 06:50:46
QUOTE(stuart @ Jul 28 2007, 02:21 AM) [snapback]305195[/snapback]
Well if he stopped making posts about actresses and bishops and stuff maybe we would be a little more appreacative.

From what I have gathered there is some sort of tie up being suggested between Morton and some Australian youth football guy who spawned Scott MacDonald.

Someone is willing to give the club 40,000 quid or dollars to facilitate this. Not sure if this is true or not - it's hard deciphering all these posts so I will leave the feeling humble for now.


That's interesting Stuart-are you CERTAIN you came by that figure and that name on the open forum? dry.gif

Anyhow, if I ever needed irrefutable proof that most of our posters ARE petty minded wee sycophants, the response to my bit of info is a gem.

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A few months back I only had to call our Chairman 'Shoogly', and the inevitable tirade would follow.

If I dared to ask questions of JM it was even worse.

I've just provided a piece of information which in my opinion exposes the very heart of all that's wrong at GMFC, and nobody's interested-except in trying to rubbish NewTON.
mortonjag 2007-07-28 06:59:37
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 27 2007, 11:08 PM) [snapback]305066[/snapback]
Yeah, probably, but he's being a drama wh*re and posting veiled allusions to important stuff to garner attention.

I for one would be delighted to hear if Morton were going to somehow benefit from these messages but I don't suppose there's much chance of that happening.





----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan Webster" <coachayr@hotmail.com

To: <info@gmfc.net

Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 5:29 AM

Subject: Australian Players





Attention - Jim McInally (Manager)





Jim,



My name is Stan Webster a Scotsman who has been living in Melbourne,

Australia since coming to play football in OZ in 1980.

I have been involved playing and coaching at a decent level in Victoria

and more recently also involved in player management.

I am the father of Stuart Webster a former Morton goalkeeper.



I coached recent Celtic signing Scott Mcdonald for 5 years in Australia

and have also coached and recommended other young players now playing

professional football overseas.



Matthew Park (Hearts)
Andreas Govas (Portsmouth)
Robert Stambolziv (Bristol City)
Jamie Cumming (Dorchester)


are all talented players recently signed with these clubs.



I am in constant contact with many talented young players in Australia,

some of whom have British born parents, also players released by English

league clubs who have come to Australia to see what the country and the

football has to offer, some of these are exceptional players whom i am

confident would do a stellar job for Morton Football Club.



Hence the reason for my email, is to see if the Morton Football Club would

be interested in any players for trial that i would recommend from

Australia.



If interested please contact me by return email or telephone mobile +61

410 541 744 or home +61 3 9799 2489.



Regards

Stan Webster







To date Stan has heard absolutely nothing from the club, and in the interim Rangers have expressed interest in two of his youngsters.

This is simply a factual e-mail. I have ALL the correspondence, and can assure you it paints a very sad picture of total lack of cohesion and delegation at GMFC.
mortonjag 2007-07-28 07:12:24
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 28 2007, 06:46 AM) [snapback]305234[/snapback]
And here was me thinking that 'pointless tirades' are the very essence of this forum. biggrin.gif



Especially pointless BLEATING tirades DE.

One of the little lambs has just pasted an e-mail on another thread-a lamb soon to the slaughter I suspect! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-29 09:05:40
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jul 28 2007, 03:04 PM) [snapback]305407[/snapback]
Essentially we're saying Newton has offered to cover the costs of some Aussie kids to come to Bridge of Weir for trials. Is that a fair summary?

On the face of it it sounds like a generous offer, I don't want to sound negative but a couple of observations;

A few years ago I very briefly had a glimpse at what goes on behind the scenes at a club gearing up for a new season. Everyday the fax machine was choked with similar letters hawking players. It's fair to assume the e-mail account will be the same, to me an agent on the other side of the world using a hotmail account doesn't smack of anything promising.

There will be far more professional requests sitting in Mortons in-tray, a lot of which will be closer to home so the expense is removed from them.

I assume you guys feel that Stans case should be given priority given that Newtons offer to fund it.
Ok fair enough, that should be explored.

IF Newton is genuine, why would he use his money to fund these guys coming over for trials? Shouldn't this be their agents role? Will Stan be taking a cut for representing his clients should they get signed?

I'm struggling to see the advantage to Morton?

IMO If Newton does have 40K available that he wants to use to help Morton I'm sure there are far more effective ways of utilising that kind of cash.

For a start he could probably buy a seat on the board and stick his Jaggy mate in as a director. I'd love to see that bluff called!


NO! Your summary is not only inaccurate but typical of your caustic style!


As I said, I have copies of all correspondence.

The whole thing kicked off some five weeks ago. A young Australian under 20 international-Jamie Cumming-whom Webster had coached, was at his grandparents in Irvine for three or four days, prior to heading South for trials. Stan suggested to NewTON that GMFC might want a quick look-OBVIOUSLY with the idea that he might be happy at Greenock nearer his folks.

An e-mail was sent to DR, and no reply came. After three days Crawford was contacted as time was running out. He claimed his father probably hadn't read the e-mail yet as his 'Secretary puts them in a folder and he reads them in batches'. Crawford asked if Jamie Cumming could change his plans to suit Morton, as 'JM doesn't like giving trials, and prefers to see the boys in training'. By this time Cumming was already about to head South where at the age of 17 he's now signed with Dorchester.

A couple of days later Shoogly e-mailed Newt, claiming Crawford was talking rubbish-that he had a 'new' e-mail address and 'reads all his own e-mails'! He was gracious to NewTON and clearly interested in his offer, but of course he and son were then off on holiday.

The staff at Cappielow in the interim presented JM as some sort of Howard Hughes-NOBODY could contact him despite several requests, and despite eventually making contact with a promise he'd be 'in touch' not a word was heard.

IN SPITE OF A FINAL PROMISE FROM D.R. last week that McInally would be in touch by Friday, silence prevails.

Regarding bona fides Cawston-there is no question of Rae doubting anything-he was at school with NewTON's Aunt-he knows who NewTON is. He also knows who Stuart Webster is-is that a surprise to you?

Your comments about my goodself and directors' boxes!!!

I'd simply say that Mortonjag always speaks the truth.

One of his biggest flaws, however, is his inability to tolerate fools gladly. NO THANKS! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-29 09:44:26 It's well seen the season's kicked off and our players are being ripped to shreds already by all those POSITIVE posters.

Yesterday's game merely confirmed what I've been saying for a full season. We have some talented players-we're not a hundred miles away from being a decent 1st Division squad.

We KNEW that in May, and very little has changed. It was glaringly obvious that at Love St., JM was still clueless as to his set up for the coming season, and was just trying mix and match to see how it panned out.

Had we signed those two or three experienced players for key positions-almost everybody agreed that made sense- we could have beaten an under strength SPL side yesterday.

The chickens will come home to roost in the next couple of months! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-29 09:56:00 What delights me about this signing is that we now have a genuine right back-a wee guy with plenty of fire in his belly. I think he'll be an asset. Davie Hayes springs to mind!

Sadly we still desperately lack experience and motivation-two more players and we could at least make some impresson this season.
mortonjag 2007-07-29 10:02:02
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 28 2007, 11:47 PM) [snapback]305828[/snapback]
It's bollox when you have guys in your team who are decent footballers and you start firing balls over the creative players .
Don't understand why Temps (who I'm not his biggest fan ) wasn't afforded a start with Sturm . How can you decide on Sturms suitability playing up with no one ?



I'd play Sanny and Spoonsy as twin strikers any day.

STURM IN A TEACUP

I think Grettin' faced JJ may have been right. The guys got talent but didn't stand out in any way IMO.
mortonjag 2007-07-29 17:56:03
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jul 29 2007, 01:12 PM) [snapback]306073[/snapback]
Bear in mind I was only hypothesising based on some open ended comments from the board.

Thanks for filling in the details. A polite no thanks from JM would have been in order if he wasn't interested, or if he's as busy as I hope he is trying to get some experience then at least communicate that back.

My main reservation about Dougies stewardship is that from time to time you get the impression he runs the club like a hobby. I wouldn't be surprised if you do hear from JM in due course, the wheels obviously turn slowly.
Slight change of topic, McInallys actions don't smack of someone that's playing the role of Dougies puppet. Any change of opinion there?


NO!
mortonjag 2007-07-29 18:03:18
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 29 2007, 02:18 PM) [snapback]306150[/snapback]
It's pretty sad that Newt's offer has came down to us argueing about the stewardship of DDFR and McInally . The club should have been heralding this as a great leap foward .
Not only for future talent but that despite the distance involved the depth of feeling Iain has for the club .
Ironic that Newt is doing all the chasing to get this deal done while those who are servants of the club seem to be inactive .
It seems to verify criticism from parents , ex players and those who give their time to helping local boys teams about the organisation of our youth set up .
I don't think anyone of us can condone or defend the club on this issue . However I'm sure there will be those who do .


In fairness to the posters Chris, nobody has really given much support to this fiasco so far.

What concerns me most is that all summer we've been told JM's got it sorted-that money's available-that he has extensive and productive contacts within the game, yet at Love St yesterday it was pretty much 'old hat'.

WHY-if he has this potential wealth and depth of talent in the palm of his hand, has he seemingly deliberately blanked a man who's coached among others Scott McDonald. There were no strings attached-just a generous offer.

Extremely bizarre!
mortonjag 2007-07-29 18:08:22
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 29 2007, 12:39 PM) [snapback]306051[/snapback]
A few random observations -

I noticed that all the players had their names on their shirts, including Sturm. I hope thats a sign that we are going to sign him!

I was near the back of the stand and my old and failing eyesight found it quite difficult to sort out who was who between McAllister and McInespie - they were both fair haired guys on the left wing. On the play, I think that it was more effective with McInespie inside and McAllister outside. McAllister looked a bit out of place in a more central midfield role which to be fair, he's not used to. McAnespie was a bit lost on the wing and was far more effective when he came inside.

Walker seems to be settling into that left back defensive role well and has improved each game I have seen him there.

I have now seen Brian Graham a couple of times in pre season and he looks a much improved player. I never really rated him when he was in the reserves last season but his touch and strength have both improved and he might be one for the future.



Sorry to hit below the belt old man, but shouldn't you be sticking with your beloved numbers! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-30 06:02:54 Just for the record, the lead up to the goal was as follows.

Davie McGregor was a full yard short of the man he was supposed to be marking when the ball was played forward-big Stu initially thought DM would get the challenge in, and misread the situation before making an unsuccessful attempt at a challenge.

What happened thereafter gave NOBODY a chance to organise-the move should have been snuffed out at least forty five yards from goal IMO.
mortonjag 2007-07-30 06:15:34
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 30 2007, 06:07 AM) [snapback]306670[/snapback]
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If we had our experienced midfield general the goal may have been prevented.  You reap what you saw, McInally, you myopic t***!


MYOPIC TW*T-what a beautiful medical term for a blind c*nt! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-30 06:30:24
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jul 29 2007, 07:15 PM) [snapback]306277[/snapback]
FFS get of SW's back. I was offered tickets for the Gers Chelsea game as well. I had already made arrangements with midTONs and se65an to get me a ticket for the RCF. Thanks lads bye the way. I decided as much as I would like to see Chelsea play in Scotland, and before anyone asks no I am not a Chelsea fan I am a Kopite, I would rather go to Love street perhaps for the last time. If it had been any other friendly game then maybe I would have went to Ibrox as well. Purely personal choice. Doesn't make you any less a ton fan.


Out of order Weegie-totally out of order. You, Street Walker, and your ilk should be ostracised by all DECENT Morton supporters.

Robinson should also be sent packing.

Come to think of it logically that means JM must go too! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-30 06:34:11 Funny what can happen when Shoogly has no option but to delegate!

I was mightily impressed as I walked into Scummery on Saturday.

BTW did anybody else hear the two folk trying to sell tickets for £3 and £ 2.50? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-30 06:36:55
QUOTE(C B @ Jul 29 2007, 10:01 AM) [snapback]305965[/snapback]
He actually looks about a foot smaller than Davie Hayes mellow.gif

Naw-just a foot NARROWER! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-30 06:42:37
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 29 2007, 10:45 PM) [snapback]306480[/snapback]
Dean Keenan has been offered a three year extension.
Only kidding but it could be worse. We need reserves for the Reserve League West.


What exactly is the point of this you infant?

Everybody can see Deano's good and bad points-Aye the bad ones are bad, but at least the guy plays his heart out.

Why was he MOTM more than once last season?

Oh and he did score our 'goal' on Saturday. Perfectly good squad player IMO.
mortonjag 2007-07-30 06:50:34 Harding is one of the most unpredictable players at Cappielow.
At his best he's still a bloody good footballer. Unfortunately he and Stu simply can't play together.

I've only seen Harding minus Greacen a couple of times-notably in the last game of the season against Ayr, when he strolled it against the likes of McLaren and Vareille.
mortonjag 2007-07-30 06:53:34
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 29 2007, 10:39 PM) [snapback]306469[/snapback]
Agreed.

The club has to be more ruthless if it wants to progress, starting by getting in players with some baws (for want of a better term)



I'd settle for a hirsute midfield killer with three testicles, and a six foot seven 16 stone baldy centre half with four!
mortonjag 2007-07-30 07:03:49
QUOTE(Albundy @ Jul 28 2007, 01:48 PM) [snapback]305386[/snapback]
With all the constant negativity from certain posters on the board directed at JM & DDFR I would like to know what their solution is - example if JM is not the man for the job then who is ? , where are the funds going to come from to pay JM out his contract and recruit a new manager? , what will this do maral and results while this is going on ? . Take DDFR some don't him as chairman , what should he do walk away and sell the club to someone else? , is there a wealthy Morton supporter out there who could take it over and run it better ? or could another HS be out there waiting to shut the club like the shipyards ? , what you do you want for Morton (realistic suggestions only please) rolleyes.gif , we have finally got back to where we belong and reading this board through the summer I though I must have been dreaming and we got relagated or something unsure.gif


Is that a serious question? unsure.gif

Shoogly's done his very best. Despite what some claim, he DID promise us SPL football, and it looks like a season ahead struggling in the first-that's NOT consolidation when you've signed virtually nobody.

JM's also done his best-enough said.

I've been suggesting a salaried director of football for almost a year now. I can't see DR allowing a new 'owner' in. Why can't he enjoy the rest of his years as a respected Honorary Chairman who saved the club from extinction?



mortonjag 2007-07-30 07:11:39
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 28 2007, 08:36 PM) [snapback]305666[/snapback]
Do. Not. Utter. Those. Words.
This site will be punished with a scrawl of pink font from the artist formerly known as Mortonjag.



Spoonsy was, is, an

Aw f*ck it-the Mods will fuss.
mortonjag 2007-07-30 07:13:43
QUOTE(stuart @ Jul 28 2007, 09:58 PM) [snapback]305741[/snapback]
I like the central defensive pairing of Harding and Weatherson. They played together for 5 or 6 games when Greacen was out once and looked pretty steady. Probably not up to first division level but I think they are our best pairing.


Harding will always shine when playing alongside a footballer.
mortonjag 2007-07-30 07:19:24
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 29 2007, 10:33 AM) [snapback]305986[/snapback]
I think that too many people on here are being hyper critical of yesterday's display. Lets not forget that

1) We were playing SPL quality opposition (whether we like that fact or not is another matter!)
2) It was a pre season fixture in which there was obviously some experimentation going on
3) For long spells of yesterday's game we gave as good as we got and it was hard to tell which was the SPL side

The goal was a comedy of errors and we had a couple of chances to clear before Corcorran scored. Apart from that incident I thought that we looked fairly solid at the back except for the first 10-15 minutes after half time when the team was adjusting to the half time changes with some players filling positions they had never played before e.g. McAllister in a more central midfield role.

As far as Sturm is concerned, I think that guy will score goals if he gets the right service. He has pace and a strikers instinct for finding space. Unfortunately when he found space, we did'nt find him with the ball. That's something the players can work on if he signs. I also think he will be more dangerous alongside Templeman and that should be our prime front pairing.

Robinson again pulled off some good saves from long range shots and I have read some criticism of his distribution. I did not spot that.

I liked Shields and thought McAnespie looked decent.

I just wonder if some of the critics have not been watching too much football on SKY. This is the Scottish first division and we are not playing in the Premiership!


I never watch football on Sky Tonsilitis but I did watch Jamie several times for Alloa!

JM hasn't a clue about football management IMO. He's a youth coach obsessed with a plethora of young midfielders.

NOTHING'S Changed.
mortonjag 2007-07-30 08:13:32 Are they going to chute Shoogly or has he had a reprieve?
mortonjag 2007-07-30 08:39:59
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 30 2007, 08:36 AM) [snapback]306690[/snapback]
I agree!

Nurse!


By the law of averages it must happen-now and again! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-30 08:41:22
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 30 2007, 08:40 AM) [snapback]306693[/snapback]
Exactly. Davie Hayes was roughly square shaped. He was a wee barrel of muscle and when he tackled you stayed tackled. Still, although Shields is more lightly built, he still has that tenacious quality and I liked him.

Did you spot any resemblance facially to a young Jim Holmes?
mortonjag 2007-07-30 08:51:34 If it was primary dentition, the correct treatment would have been simply to apply pressure by biting on-say- a folded paper tissue. Saliva does a good job!

If secondary, the same applies, the tooth should have been immersed in milk, and urgent dental treatment sought.

Getting urgent dental treatment on Saturday is as difficult as getting water from a Skunk, though. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-30 08:55:03
QUOTE(HamCam @ Jul 29 2007, 10:40 PM) [snapback]306472[/snapback]
Unlike folk on here such as cornbeef and Taunton who are well acquainted with being unsteady on their feet, leaving deposits in their beds, keeping their teeth in a jar beside themselves at night, sleeping with women who can play keepy-up with their formerly pert bits etc I have so far been very successful in fighting the ravages of auld age. I am however concerned now that father time is catching up with me.

If I could explain. Firstly the kids were at me to buy them so cd's off the internet. Needless to say I did not have a scooby about who they were after and got distracted as most of the stuff I like is now found either on special offer or in some bargain basement. I think of myself as a free radical digging all the crazy tunes hitting the airwaves but maybe I am stuck in a time warp. Anyway to make myself feel better I bought some J&MC, Ramones and Bad Manners cd's as I only currently have the stuff on vinyl.

Second item of concern is my interest in joining the local bowling club. It is not as if I play the game but for the first time in my life I am tempted to get down on one knee. I think I would look good in a white jumper and am dying to get a blazer.

Am I getting old ?


Old age is just mind over matter.

If you don't mind, it doesn't matter.
mortonjag 2007-07-30 08:57:05 I didn't think you could type 'poofters' or '****' for that matter! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-30 09:01:03
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 30 2007, 08:43 AM) [snapback]306695[/snapback]
You probably spotted from another thread - I need new glasses and he could have been a dead ringer for Homer or Homer Simpson for all I know.



laugh.gif

Here was me blaming 'rose tints' all last season, and you're just scared of opticians!
mortonjag 2007-07-30 09:03:14
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 30 2007, 08:45 AM) [snapback]306696[/snapback]
So you can see the positives in our worst player, but can't see the positives in our manager who has won us promotion or our chairman who has spent a lot of money to get us back to division 1?


Yet another infantile splurge.

I ALWAYS see the positives and negatives in anything-it's not difficult-try it sometime! wink.gif


mortonjag 2007-07-30 09:09:24
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 30 2007, 08:52 AM) [snapback]306700[/snapback]
Did you mean chute or shoot?? rolleyes.gif

After his volt over the wall at Morecambe, think its best he stayed in the Stand


I meant chute-I had hoped he'd make a dignified descent showering us all in buckshee Fudgy Fudgy 'seconds' before unfurling the flag as the groundstaff frantically squeegeed up the mass salivation.
mortonjag 2007-07-30 09:11:35
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 30 2007, 08:51 AM) [snapback]306699[/snapback]
transfermarkt.de (A football agency website) has him down as signed for Morton now

http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/spieler/261...nsferdaten.html


If that's correct can we possibly establish which position he'll be played in. Rumour has it that he's quite a handy central defender. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-30 09:36:49
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 29 2007, 08:07 PM) [snapback]306325[/snapback]
Anyone going? Only £3/£1 and right beside Barrhead train station. Nearer than Cappielow for me so I'll pop along even its just a reserve/youth side we are putting out.


I WAS thinking of going.
mortonjag 2007-07-30 09:39:25
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 30 2007, 12:48 AM) [snapback]306605[/snapback]
Alex Walker wore number 10 at left back yesterday. unsure.gif

Shirt numbers mean hee-haw. unsure.gif


Seaside rides on number five-eh Deego!
mortonjag 2007-07-30 09:45:48 Cappie

Shoogly Greacen Harding Arthur



Finlayson Millar Walker McAlister


Trialist Spoonsy


I picked the names out a bag as per accepted routine.

mortonjag 2007-07-30 09:48:15
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 30 2007, 09:38 AM) [snapback]306722[/snapback]
Great, you're no longer. Wish I could say you'll be sorely missed.


You won't know me-or will you-I think I might just pop along after all but I'll leave the Monkey here-he's a dead give away, though you might confuse him with somebody else.
mortonjag 2007-07-30 09:51:24
QUOTE(C B @ Jul 30 2007, 09:33 AM) [snapback]306720[/snapback]
REALLY??? How old are you?? 3 !!! blink.gif

To try and meet in the middle and form some kind of agreement with you i have no idea who any St Mirren players are and with the exception of Broadfoot (oops sorry that doesnt count anymore) couldnt pick one of them out a lineup of Ried Kerr Junkies !

In saying that though, i don't spend time on the St Mirren forum where there are bound to be photos of skunk players in ppls avatars, you don't have that same excuse do you?

You do type well for a 3 year old right enough wink.gif


He is four and a half-I've seen it on the Skunk website.
mortonjag 2007-07-30 09:56:57
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 30 2007, 09:14 AM) [snapback]306712[/snapback]
There's no little red marker on the pitch so you're talking s***, as per usual.

EDIT: He's down as 'sturm' which literally means storm, it means striker if you have ever used the site before you'd know that. f*d.


What does f*d mean?
mortonjag 2007-07-30 10:02:28
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Jul 29 2007, 08:12 PM) [snapback]306335[/snapback]
Just wanting to know what you all think about Scottish Independence. I think we should go for it but still have close trade links with England and stuff. Please comment on your choice and why you chose that tongue.gif



CLAYMORE C*CK'S on holiday-what right have you to start a poll like this in his absence?
mortonjag 2007-07-30 10:12:00
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 29 2007, 03:53 PM) [snapback]306180[/snapback]
They would have, there was a clash.

However why we didn't wear the away strip, instead of the third strip, I have no idea.

Kinda sums you up.
mortonjag 2007-07-30 10:13:55
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 30 2007, 10:10 AM) [snapback]306739[/snapback]
If you are referring to me Earnie, I'm here. Holiday is not for another couple of weeks tongue.gif



You've been incomprehensibly quiet-did you get new pills?
mortonjag 2007-07-30 10:15:00 Hardie heading for a pie queue.
mortonjag 2007-07-30 10:16:46 many happy returns-lang may yer bum lum reek
mortonjag 2007-07-30 11:33:18
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jul 30 2007, 11:13 AM) [snapback]306780[/snapback]
I thought everybody bar Jim and Temps were pretty poor.

Poor game with 2 poor sides, luckily it doesn't mean anything.

I still find it crazy how people can watch the same game and come away with completely different versions of the same event, i.e. personally i seen Robinson boot at least 4 clearances/bye kicks right out the pitch in the 2nd half.


I thought his kicking was a bit erratic-but when he gets it right it's bloody good-he was also finding guys with pinpoint accuracy over about seventy yards-and that's his FIRST real try out with guys he doesn't know yet.
mortonjag 2007-07-30 11:42:11
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jul 30 2007, 11:17 AM) [snapback]306782[/snapback]
I'm actually quite looking forward to a Temps and Sturm strike force this season if we can get him. I liked the look of us going forward when Temps came on, he found Sturm on numerous occasions with his knock downs. How anyone can not be a Templeman fan though is beyond me. Best football player at the club.

It's funny how a 'donkey' and 'big plank of wood' has turned into 'the best football player at the club'! wink.gif

In terms of pure football, Spoonsy, Jamie, and Midge are well ahead, but I know exactly what you mean. Sanny probably links better than anybody else. I believe if he and Spoonsy were given the chance to gel, we'd have a potent strike force.
mortonjag 2007-07-30 11:46:43
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 30 2007, 11:42 AM) [snapback]306790[/snapback]
Apart from the fact he's a stark raving psychopath with no footbaling ability whatsoever.
Accident waiting to happen.
Stirling, anyone?
Or how about Dumbarton, when his last man challenge occurs inside the box rather than at the half way line. dry.gif



Or how about Peterhead away, and Cowdenbeath away- to name only two-don't be ridiculous or you'll end up with a bilateral haemopneumothorax young man. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-30 11:48:33
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 30 2007, 11:46 AM) [snapback]306791[/snapback]
Not only that, but he actually has good technique as well.
Considering he was playing as a lone striker against an SPL defence the criticisms are a bit over the top. dry.gif



Did he do anything Spoonsy couldn't do?
mortonjag 2007-07-30 11:50:38
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 30 2007, 11:47 AM) [snapback]306793[/snapback]
Cowdenbeath away?
Enlighten me. unsure.gif


I take it you only attend home matches. We played Beath when they were top of the league-most people have chosen to forget that-and Deano was Man of The Match at left back.
mortonjag 2007-07-30 11:55:54
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 30 2007, 11:50 AM) [snapback]306797[/snapback]
Yes.
Run on to a through ball.


Oh I see-now I'm more confused than ever-if he's NOT a right back, and NOT a striker, but best playing from midfield, how the f*ck is he going to score if he can't run on to a through ball.

People are just making Sturm fit what they want-he's good at shaking off markers and can score goals-well he did at Stenny. Against the Midden he looked pretty ordinary.

Spoonsy was, i wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-30 12:00:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 30 2007, 11:55 AM) [snapback]306798[/snapback]
Maybe for you, not for me.
Note: I attended 42 Morton matches last season - please don't make ill-learned assumptions.


The fact that you are in the minority (and your own) says everything I need to hear.

I honestly had rated you above Chocolate boy, but it looks like you fall into the same trap of liking or disliking players irrespective of their actual performances.

Don't worry-you'll grow out of it.
mortonjag 2007-07-30 12:02:56
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 30 2007, 12:00 PM) [snapback]306804[/snapback]
Free kicks, headers, long range shots.
Making runs from midfield into the box.
Beating the entire opposition team and chipping it over the keeper with his head.
Any other examples needed? rolleyes.gif


Running on to through balls which he's eminently capable of doing. Careful young man-you're beginning to make him sound like an accomplished striker!
mortonjag 2007-07-30 12:06:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 30 2007, 12:03 PM) [snapback]306808[/snapback]
No.
Paul McGowan was my man of the match against Cowdenbeath.
Sorry, I forgot that having a minority opinion makes it automatically wrong - when was this law passed? dry.gif



Aye right-drive for show and putt for dough-Gowser conned many-the final product was often dreadful.


Having a minority opinion when you've only shaved twice in the last year suggests you've possibly got a lot to learn.

There again, I'm in the minority about Spoonsy being a striker!
mortonjag 2007-07-30 12:09:06
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 30 2007, 12:04 PM) [snapback]306809[/snapback]
"Weatherson with his lightning pace beats the defender".
Naw, I can't see that happening. dry.gif


Pace, young man, or reading the game early and timing the run.

As I suggested, you've a lot to learn.
mortonjag 2007-07-30 12:12:34
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 30 2007, 11:36 AM) [snapback]306787[/snapback]
And this makes Greacen and Harding competent: how?
Perhaps players like McGregor and McLaughlin were saving our bacon whilst the diddy brothers conspired to f*ck up yet again.
Or do you actualy believe they are of 1st division calibre? wacko.gif


McLaughlin is great at reading the game and tracks back very efficiently. McGregor's been as guilty of silly defensive mistakes as anybody and lacks pace.
mortonjag 2007-07-30 12:20:35
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 30 2007, 12:10 PM) [snapback]306814[/snapback]
Second top goalscorer in the team - more than Hero Templeman - in his first ever season of senior football?
Potential?
Naw. He must be sh*te. Mortonjag says so. dry.gif
It's interesting how your attack on the validity of my coments has turned from attending matxches to age.
Surely attending matches is more important, no?
Or is it just that Mortonjag needs a petty excuse to dismiss my evidently hurtful comments about his beloved Keenan? rolleyes.gif

I don't have heros or villains young man. Sanny is never the finished article. Gowser has huge potential, but went for over two months without a solitary goal. He just about broke my heart in the farce game at Scapa against Ayr as he repeatedly showed inexperience by trying to walk the ball into the net, and he repeatedly fluffed chances to bury simple strikers goals throughout the season.

Keenan's very bad at some things but he brings urgency and determination to an often wishy washy squad, and he's NOT entirely useless, as history shows.

One of the things you clearly have not learned yet, is to present a balanced opinion-don't worry, you have the intelligence-the rest will hopefully come.
mortonjag 2007-07-30 12:25:29
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 30 2007, 12:12 PM) [snapback]306815[/snapback]
Go on then, give me examples of Peter Weatherson succesfully latching onto a through ball, not a pass, mind - in the previous two seasons. huh.gif


Kind of difficult from right back. He didn't take long to overtake Williams when he was played forward mind-I seem to recall his greatest asset was spotting chances early-being in the right place at the right time-including several through balls from John Maisano.
mortonjag 2007-07-30 12:28:37
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 30 2007, 12:23 PM) [snapback]306824[/snapback]
The irony. ohmy.gif



That's neither accurate nor clever. Don't come on painting players all good or all bad and expect to get off with it-you descibed Keenan as a useless psychopath-is that honestly a balanced opinion.

No point in my telling you to grow up-as I said it will hopefully come with time.
mortonjag 2007-07-30 12:31:00
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 30 2007, 12:28 PM) [snapback]306828[/snapback]
But he was pushed up front frequently in a desperate attempt to change the game.
You know this.
The challenge remains the same. huh.gif


And please tell me how many decent through balls were played in the whole bloody season!
mortonjag 2007-07-30 12:34:21
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 30 2007, 12:31 PM) [snapback]306831[/snapback]
Because your opinion of the Sweetie Merchant and JM is just so balanced.
I'm surprised it isn't taken as fact. rolleyes.gif
No point in telling you to grow up, you're already past it. tongue.gif


My opinions of 'Sweetie Merchant' and JM are not high, but I have consistently stated the areas where they deserve credit.

If you ask me to explain, that will indicate that you only see what you want to see-as with Keenan.
mortonjag 2007-07-30 12:36:15
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 30 2007, 12:31 PM) [snapback]306832[/snapback]
I'd estimate about 117.
Anyway, get on with it. tongue.gif

p***k as usual-it was 114
mortonjag 2007-07-30 12:38:56
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 30 2007, 10:37 AM) [snapback]306755[/snapback]
Aye ah did. Thanks for prescribing them mate, they are working fine. wink.gif


I knew you'd love the wee bit on the box-'Made in England'!
mortonjag 2007-07-30 12:42:28
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 30 2007, 12:37 PM) [snapback]306837[/snapback]
I don't want to see a psychopath running onto the pitch giving away stupid fouls that cost both goals and points.
But that is reality.
Keenan gives 100% certainly, but it is a terrible 100% to give.
If you have 100% manure, its still manure.


Then JM and I will have to bow to your superior opinion.
mortonjag 2007-07-30 15:39:27
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 30 2007, 12:14 PM) [snapback]306820[/snapback]
McGregor, Greacen or Harding?
If I could pick two to send to the gulag, it would be the calamity brothers, not Davy.
Please bear in mind that he was being played out of position as well.


What is his position-do tell-nobody seems to know, least of all the manager?
mortonjag 2007-07-30 15:54:25
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 30 2007, 02:22 PM) [snapback]306900[/snapback]
Are you my alias , Templeman has improved a fair bit but his total lack of pace does compound the fact he'll never really go onto a higher level .
Now that will have some on here comparing Templeman with some guy called Andy Ritchie !!!!
Templemans strength lays in linking play he tends to come off his marker rather than holding him off whether he'll be able to do that in this division we'll have to give him the benefit .
Up to this minute he , Linn and Graham are the only strikers unless JM reinstates Weatherson . So we can't really be too critical of the players if JM and Dougie haven'tmanaged to strengthen the team .


Chris he's got far too many midfielders and Spoonsy's not necessarily the best of them-the one thing about him and Sanny is that they both link and read play well. People keep going on about weatherson never having cut the mustard up front for us but I think that's daft when for a season, he's never been given a full 90 minutes let alone two conscutive games as a 'striker' or whatever you care to call the guy who sticks them in the pokey for fun.

Put Spoonsy up front with Sanny-play Jamie from deep-put Jimbo out right and McAnespie out left with Alex Walker in 'holding' role.

That leaves Robinson Shields Harding and two others!!!
mortonjag 2007-07-30 16:02:08
MORTON: Squad To Be Finalised This Week
30 July 2007


MORTON manager Jim McInally hopes to get his squad finalized in time for the start of league action on Saturday.

Several trialists have been playing with the club including Slovenian striker Jani Sturm, and young forward Adam Coakley.
McInally said: “I am trying to get things sorted out this week one way or another with everybody. It’s not so much making my mind up as trying to see what we can afford.â€

Morton lost 1:0 to St Mirren at Love Street in the final of the Renfrewshire Cup on Saturday. McInally said: “I am never pleased with losing.


"We lost a bad goal that should never have been let in. Apart from that I don’t think there was anything in the game. There are a lot of positives from it.

“There’s a realization now that the main stuff starts on Saturday.

"We have been well tested against Premier League teams and have competed well. Hopefully we will take some belief from that.â€

Morton play Clyde at Cappielow on Saturday.


Having spent a king's ransom on McAnespie the coffers are bare. The truth is finally out.

SHOOGLY'S SKINT!










mortonjag 2007-07-30 16:07:02
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 30 2007, 02:11 PM) [snapback]306896[/snapback]
No he didn't, it was Alex Walker. wink.gif


That took ages-and I thought it would come from our Viking and his little hatchet-I stand corrected now-my only excuse-Tonsilitis and I share an optician!
mortonjag 2007-07-30 16:10:23
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Jul 30 2007, 02:52 PM) [snapback]306910[/snapback]
Sun will sooner shine from his erse dry.gif


So they're keeping things as they are!
mortonjag 2007-07-30 16:15:37
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Jul 30 2007, 02:41 PM) [snapback]306908[/snapback]
I think a lot of people do. Problem is, JM doesn't.

Spoonsy is more vocal but more importantly, he can lead by example. If I was in that team, big Peter would definitely inspire more confidence in me than big Stew. mellow.gif


I said way back last season that Greacen carries the captain's role as a burden which affected his form-he does not have the personality for it.

Weatherson has matured incredibly-he's beginning to look almost cultured at times, and has that wee edge of arrogance.

Give him the job.
mortonjag 2007-07-30 16:20:59
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 30 2007, 02:32 PM) [snapback]306905[/snapback]
The side effects are good too, they made my c*** 4 inches longer


Does tickling it not work? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-30 16:33:48
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 30 2007, 04:28 PM) [snapback]306954[/snapback]
Ah Ernest dear ,
That cant be true how would we have been able to tempt Mensing and Sutton unless they had sugar addictions .
That statement by McInally is all the more damning considering McInally has failed to contact Stan Webster . If he knew the situation why didn't he pick up the phone .
What happens if we do get found out , surely it would be better to try and get some outside investment now rather than waiting until its too late .


My respect for JM is diminishing. It's no time since he told us the money was available but he was waiting for the right players. I don't think I'll now believe anything he says.

Here was me asking for weeks why players were shunning us-thinking somebody at Scapa had dreadful B.O.- and all along it's because they've been offered peanuts and a season's supply of Fudgy Wudgies.
mortonjag 2007-07-31 07:25:59 Just an update-Stan Webster was given an unequivocal guarantee last week from the club that JM would be in touch by Friday-or by Monday at the latest-and has heard absolutely nothing.

That speaks volumes. Even if the club doesn't want to touch potential Scott McDonalds with a barge pole, it shouldn't be telling blatant lies. It's becoming clear to me that the truth is extremely difficult to come by at Cappielow.
mortonjag 2007-07-31 07:31:34
QUOTE(C B @ Jul 30 2007, 05:05 PM) [snapback]306981[/snapback]
Possibly the best use of the word "entirely" in the history of the english language laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2007-07-31 07:33:12
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jul 30 2007, 05:08 PM) [snapback]306985[/snapback]
Would agree with that! At least you haven't descended into slating the entire squad before the season starts! Right enough your Norwegian friend seems to have taken that role! laugh.gif


And maybe the right time to remind folk that Mortonjag doesn't need to rip young lads to pieces for doing their best.

There are much more legitimate targets who should know better!
mortonjag 2007-07-31 07:36:15
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 30 2007, 05:11 PM) [snapback]306989[/snapback]
Face facts people : Dean keenan is a poor imitator of a footballer.
As much as I'd love to praise all the immensely talented players in our Morton squad, nothing convinces me yet that we are in any way prepared for the new season.
Sorry, I forgot, we need to keep it a secret. ph34r.gif dry.gif


Then aim the criticism in the right direction-a Skint Shoogly and his apparently incompetent, stubborn, and untruthful manager.
mortonjag 2007-07-31 07:38:12
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 30 2007, 05:12 PM) [snapback]306990[/snapback]
I thought that too but given my other eyesight embarrassment, I did'nt want to say.

Who needs the specs now MJ? you old git!


I was actually watching Kenny Clark at the moment the ball was poked into the net-I was sure one of his balls had fallen oot his troosers!
mortonjag 2007-07-31 07:40:11
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 30 2007, 05:48 PM) [snapback]307022[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDCould this be a cross section of JM's brain!
mortonjag 2007-07-31 07:45:02
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 30 2007, 07:58 PM) [snapback]307100[/snapback]
Considering the latter's probably the weakest part of Bobby Linn's game, yet you regard him as a "proven goalscorer", maybe you can explain what your definition of "reading the game" really is...?



Nach0-he IS a proven goal scorer-away with you and your red herrings!
mortonjag 2007-07-31 07:48:55
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 30 2007, 08:12 PM) [snapback]307115[/snapback]
Thats total keech. If you can't see the potential on display, you've not got much of an eye for players. Why do you think there are 3/4 clubs after him?

The only good reason I can imagine for prioritising Sturm over the experienced holding midfield motivator we were promised is to whitewash a disastrously unsuccessful closed season.

Shoogly's words were indeed prophetic-'Don't you think those boys deserve the chance to take us forward'?

Looks like he already accepted he was skint in May.

Where is the f*cking truth at Scapa?
mortonjag 2007-07-31 08:03:14
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Jul 30 2007, 04:30 PM) [snapback]306955[/snapback]
Obviously there is a limit to how much of his own money Mr Rae is willing to spend. It's clear that he isn't prepared to spend the money necessary to get Morton challenging for a place in the SPL (about 6 quality signings would have been needed to achieve this), which obviously means he has taken us as far as he can.

He really has to consider any future offers he receives for Morton. He's a fan like the rest of us, so if anyone else is willing/able to invest more in the club than he is, he really has to be ready to hand over the reigns.

There's nothing wrong with capping the cash-just let's have some honesty about money, the youth set up, and who calls what shots at Scapa.

He's achieved a lot but we're currently stagnating-JM IMHO has been a mistake. A radical shake up is required urgently.


mortonjag 2007-07-31 08:07:24
QUOTE(Oozie @ Jul 30 2007, 11:45 PM) [snapback]307186[/snapback]
We don't ask you for much Dougster, so get his signature to excite the Greenock faithful.

You can do your usual and get the mic oot and introduce him to us.
As long as you don't lose him, like you lost wee Boaby Linn laugh.gif


Rumour has it Bobby's been locked in one of Andy Bryan's hampers for daring to ask for a wee game.
mortonjag 2007-07-31 08:08:47 Sturm is being used as a distraction. We STILL desperately need experience and motivation.

How can they have been SO BLIND?
mortonjag 2007-07-31 08:13:14
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 30 2007, 08:07 PM) [snapback]307110[/snapback]
I may be alone in this but I think we will do ok this season.

Agreed there is no doubt we still need players but the flak at JM for this seems to me to be out of place.
Was told today a quote from JM went along the lines of, "the squad has been thin in past seasons and it may be too thin for this league" (apologies if this is somewhat miss-quoted).

Was this statement a thinly veiled dig at Doogies ambitions?


Sounds like somethings wrong! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-31 08:15:07
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 30 2007, 09:00 PM) [snapback]307135[/snapback]
Well if he did say that , we may not have got alot of signings but it maybe early days but our manager maybe about to grow a backbone . DDFr has said on numerous occasions that money was available to the manager yet we were led to believe JM was content with the situation .
laugh.gifAbit of honesty would put us all in the picture .

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mortonjag 2007-07-31 08:17:07
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 31 2007, 01:02 AM) [snapback]307211[/snapback]
Utter pish more like dry.gif


Would that be UTTER utter pish?
mortonjag 2007-07-31 09:00:30
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 31 2007, 04:39 AM) [snapback]307220[/snapback]
My starting XI - bearing in mind I have watched precisely zero pre-season games - would mirror LargsTON's.

Alternatively, here's another... IMO this'll be closer to the Clyde lineup than the one Largston provided above:

-----------------------------------Robinson----------------------------

---------------Greacen--------Harding-----------Walker------------

---Shields----------------------------------------------------McAnespie

--------------Millar-----------McGregor---------McAlister------------

----------------------Temps---------Sturm/Linn--------------------

This is assuming that we don't see Lin or Sturm as a lone striker, which I'd hate to happen because I reckon every defence in the division will know how to combat that.

No Spoonsy-who WAS..... wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-31 09:17:14

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QUOTE(mortonjag @ Nov 15 2006, 08:59 PM)
As long as we're top of this league you blind 75% will still doff your caps to a man with no managerial ability, but mark my words, unless Dougie Rae finds us a wee fortune somewhere Jim's going to get found out next season
This one has definately come out of MortanJag's top drawer. 75% of this board is blind. It doesn't matter what we actually say or think, if it in any way goes against his obviously superior understanding of managing Morton then we are miguided fools. My only concern would be if we were to buy into MortonJag's extremely blinkered and negative perspective, then we really would have the blind leading the blind.

ScotinBelgie


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mortonjag 2007-07-31 09:23:58
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jul 29 2007, 06:21 AM) [snapback]305923[/snapback]
I was at the Morton game yesterday where I made a comment rightly or wrongly towards one of the St Mirren players who was there on trial, it may have been the Israeli boy unsure. He's coming down the left side of the park towards the Caledonia Stand and goes down like a ton of bricks when one of our players tackles him and he starts the diving thing.

In frustration I shout "if your going to dive like that go back to where you came from!"

A morton supporter accuses me of being racist ,he makes a big deal so I apologise and he points at me gesturing towards me directing the police, police come and ask for a word dont bother asking for my side and tell me that if I say anything else then I will be lifted, this left my 11 year old son very upset and peeved me off.

As we know players from all leagues and countries have an element of diving but foriegners believe it to be part of the game to cheat thier way through. I for one deplore racism but there is no room for cheats in the game as well as racists.

I have made a number of posts regarding racism and believe I made a comment which some may see as racist and if that is the case then I apologise as I did with the guy who made the accusation. as far as I am concermed this is merely a throw away comment that a big deal was made of and to be honest has made me think twice about attending games as I could have been lifted.

I would just like to know in a nut shell is that racist. and if so I doubt i will be back at a game as I and many others shout things a lot worse towards players ie, yer a ****- homophobe, come on up here whoever-threatening.

once again if im racist, i dont know it and humbly apologise to those i have offended as with all comments I have shouted in the past towards players and opposing fans.


AJC I haven't bothered to read any of this thread. If he'd been signed from Aberdeen and you'd called him a 'sheep shagging b*****d' nobody would have batted an eyelid.

I've been openly accused of racism by a poster who's more interested in the sound of his own voice than in honesty and fairness.

Some people have to offload their 'issues' somewhere-don't give it a second thought.
mortonjag 2007-07-31 09:40:57
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 31 2007, 01:14 AM) [snapback]307214[/snapback]
I see you conveniently ignored beating Gretna Paul.

I'm not saying you are wrong to be concerned but that I don't think it's fair to say 'I take it you haven't seen the preseason friendlies' when you haven't seen the two we won yourself. Neither am I criticising you for not being at them or an every game man either by the way.


Ayr just beat Gretna by the same margin-we beat Rangers-Rangers beat Chelsea-guess Ayr could give us a good run for the Champions league-mind you they've got a MANAGER too!
mortonjag 2007-07-31 09:45:40
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 30 2007, 05:10 PM) [snapback]306987[/snapback]
Sturm is one of the best striking prospects I've seen. That guy will score a barrowload in the first division with the right service. I generally agree with you Tonosaurus, but in this I think you are wrong and we should push the boat out for him. If he does not come, I sincerely hope he goes to Gretna and not another first division club.

Come on Mr Rae, get the chequebook out. This one is worth it.


Golden Casket's or Morton's bouncy bouncy one?
mortonjag 2007-07-31 09:51:14
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Jul 30 2007, 06:21 PM) [snapback]307039[/snapback]
Thank god some of the negativity guys weren't around in 1963 when we signed almost a full team of free-transfers - there wouldn't be enough room on the internet for their moans.


What's your definition of a 'negativity guy'.

As far as I can see there's not much to be positive about unless your a myopic cretin.

I hasten to add that's just the opinion of a 'negativity guy'!
mortonjag 2007-07-31 10:00:43
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 31 2007, 09:10 AM) [snapback]307253[/snapback]
MortonJag and VikingTon are one and the same. It is another of MortonJag's "personas".


FFS-is it SO obvious!
mortonjag 2007-07-31 10:04:51
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 31 2007, 09:36 AM) [snapback]307274[/snapback]
?

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mortonjag 2007-07-31 10:07:45 Batter f*ck oot the little c*nts I say!
mortonjag 2007-07-31 10:11:50
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jul 30 2007, 09:11 PM) [snapback]307139[/snapback]
You were doing fine up till you mentioned the bowlin' You getting 13 badges for each lapel ? No Robertson Jam related ones now - you'll cause offence. The white jumper's bad for slevers and 'dinner medals' but the grey trousers are cool when the waist band is pulled right up to yer nipples.
The bowlin' might be ok but I wouldn't be seen dead in the gear. My 19 year old is actually stealing some of my clothes to wear................ not so much that I'm a trendy dresser mind you - he's no' right in the heid .
Bowling ma arce, I'm still playing 5 a sides (in my dreams ,anyway)

I'll see if I can find a couple of badges for you.

By Golly, it was good though!
mortonjag 2007-07-31 10:32:21
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jul 31 2007, 10:28 AM) [snapback]307291[/snapback]
He didn't appear to be able to cross a ball to be honest. If he's playing i hope it's as part of a back 4, but since JM's already said McGregor's our new midfield general a wingback position seems the most likely.

Who was the OLD one? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-31 10:34:55
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 31 2007, 09:29 AM) [snapback]307264[/snapback]
Sorry, but I thought that was racist.


Aye Donga - but you ask for a 'non white puddin' supper', and change yer Chippy if they don't understand.
mortonjag 2007-07-31 10:38:27
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 31 2007, 10:29 AM) [snapback]307292[/snapback]
I voted "yeh".

If I'd been given the belt at school - I'd be well on my way to becoming a Lawyer by now, or a Doctor!


Don't fret-we all make mistakes-if I'd needed the belt instead of being a little 'goody two shoes', I'd probably have ended up a wealthy businessman who could buy Shoogly out!
mortonjag 2007-07-31 10:41:03
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 31 2007, 10:39 AM) [snapback]307301[/snapback]
No, I don't do that.


Sorry I thought you were one of TiD's other personas! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-31 10:44:59
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 31 2007, 10:42 AM) [snapback]307306[/snapback]
No, I'm not.


Nor is Viking one of mine-in fact I have none!
mortonjag 2007-07-31 10:49:24 [quote name='Trick37' date='Jul 31 2007, 10:41 AM' post='307303']
No. It's not up to the teachers to discipline the children---it's up to their parents.

When I was is elementary ("Primary") school in Pensacola, Florida in 1975 (I was 8), my teach took a paddle to my backside once (it was still allowed in some places in the South back then). I told my dad about it, and he took me to school the next day. I took the teacher into the classroom and told him that only he would lay a hand (or paddle or belt) on me, and that if he (the teacher) did it again, he (my dad) would come back and there'd be "consequences."

My dad was 6'2", bulky and not an ounce of fat on him back then (in his Navy days). He was really angry at the teacher, and the teacher was sh1tting bricks!

I'll never forget that.

(For some reason the teacher never did anything like that to ANY student of his again.)
[/quote


A teacher is understood to be 'in loco parentis' Trick-if the parents have done a good job this question need probably not have been asked.

If disciplining one or two unruly pupils for the general good of a class is wrong-society is well and truly f*cked.
mortonjag 2007-07-31 10:52:21
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 31 2007, 10:50 AM) [snapback]307314[/snapback]
Yeah, that was a joke on the other thread. Sorry I touched a nerve.

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mortonjag 2007-07-31 11:01:44
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 31 2007, 10:58 AM) [snapback]307325[/snapback]
If VT was an alias you'd have to grow another set of limbs going by the amount you (2) post . laugh.gif

The Monkey does 90% of my posts-I just do the daft ones Chris!
mortonjag 2007-07-31 11:03:54
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 31 2007, 10:58 AM) [snapback]307324[/snapback]
Gross pish is 144 times worse than pish, mind! wink.gif

Unless it's bakers' grossness which is 169 times worse.
mortonjag 2007-07-31 11:10:40 I'm glad I've not been precipitate-I was so much looking forward to buying my Mum one for her 86th birthday-come to think of it, as she's registered blind I should maybe just wait 'til they drop the price.
mortonjag 2007-07-31 11:16:04
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 31 2007, 11:10 AM) [snapback]307345[/snapback]
I agree with you on just about everything apart from calling your fellow messageboarders halfwits. I despair for them, I really do, but that's a bit harsh.

Talk of formations, esp after Sat, is nonsensical. McInally knew we were up against a decent SPL side, forget that it was st Mirren and the Renfrewshire cup. They are an established SPL team now, they've stayed up, and Jim respected them. He prob wanted to see what one up and playing it long was like with certain personell. as you say, friendlies are for experimenting. I agree to an extent with your assesment on sturm from Sat - IWas disappointed after what I'd heard, but still thought he showed flashes of being a decent signing. I agree that other interest will be getting blown up by his agent through the papers - that's their job.

The taxi for mcinally poll was a disgrace.


It sure was Donga-at least 75% had total confidence in his ability!
mortonjag 2007-07-31 11:18:58
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 31 2007, 11:09 AM) [snapback]307341[/snapback]
And? I pointed out that we beat Gretna - a match in which we played quite well. Some people think it's a case of if we win it doesn't matter because it's only a friendly but if we lose its cause for concern. You can't have it both ways.


I was simply suggesting that pre-season friendlies usually count for very little in the fullness of time.
mortonjag 2007-07-31 11:30:52
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 31 2007, 11:19 AM) [snapback]307360[/snapback]
We are no longer big fish in a small pond.

It's time to get real and get real in your expectations. Mr Rae has finally delivered what he said he would do. Things are going to be a lot harder from now on. Any further success in the next few seasons will be, for me, a bonus.

You'd think people on here are wanting an assault on the Champions League with the clamour and wailing. We need to consolidate in the First and take it from there. We are not Gretna.

I think we can do that with this squad.

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Convenient memories.

Mr Rae has stated quite clearly on several occasions in the last five years that he wants us in the SPL.

I have yet to hear a statement to the contrary.

I'd also love to hear your definition of 'consolidation'.

Mistake after mistake led to a five year wait-five years of Shoogly pouring his money down a stank-and HIS OWN FAULT. Now he's closed the coffers and you call that 'consolidation'-a convenient 'cop out' more like!

It appears he's unwilling to admit he ever does anything wrong-the 'Youth Policy' is non existent, and JM's rapidly becoming a liability-the money's done-and GMFC's not for sale while there's breath in his body!!! unsure.gif

mortonjag 2007-07-31 11:42:42
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 31 2007, 11:35 AM) [snapback]307395[/snapback]
He wants us in the SPL. Who doesn't?

His AIM, though, his job was to get us back to the first, always was.


Superb-I look forward to his retirement forthwith, and the appointment of somebody who can get for us 'what we all want'.
mortonjag 2007-07-31 11:50:26
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jul 31 2007, 11:42 AM) [snapback]307399[/snapback]
We're back in the 1st division.

It's been a long time coming, but we're there.

We don't, I think, have a squad that's going to win the league this season, but let's re-establish ourselves at this level with a decent mid-table showing before we start complaining about the perceived lack if ambition to get to the SPL.

Consolidation and financial stability must be the aims this year.

There are a lot of things within Morton that need to be better adressed, and I agree that the youth set-up is probably the most important, but the short term aim was always to get to where we now are. Now is the time to look forward, but it's not going to be sorted overnight.

Just a thought, but last time we were in the Premier League was truly miserable. A couple of seasons in the first might not be a bad thing!

How is that going to be achieved-how much more money will come through the gates if we don't excite the crowds? Wage bills are inevitably up. Our marketing side is a farce.

Your concept of sitting tight for a couple of PROFITABLE seasons would make sense.

As it stands things don't look promising.
mortonjag 2007-07-31 11:52:44
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 31 2007, 11:43 AM) [snapback]307402[/snapback]
Got Hugh Scott's number?

Any other suggestions?

You rich?


Salaried director of football-as already suggested by me many times.


mortonjag 2007-07-31 11:53:54
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jul 31 2007, 11:47 AM) [snapback]307406[/snapback]
It was printed on stickers in the Love St toilets - anybody get it?


It's a different Hugh Scott Trumpet! Please don't insult a long established and respectable business!
mortonjag 2007-07-31 11:57:23
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 31 2007, 11:53 AM) [snapback]307415[/snapback]
Oooooh - how much will he cost?



Is that a serious question, or just a silly comment?

I personally know somebody who could do the job competently for pocket money.

How much are JM and MC costing annually in return for falling gates?
mortonjag 2007-07-31 12:06:04 I thought we already had young Shields.

So it's officially confirmed JM wants a young inexperienced midfielder striker and an unproven Slovenian striker.


STRIKER- STRIKER- F*CKING STRIKER-McInally-- where does it say in the beginners' coaching manual that a team starts at No 6? mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-31 12:06:37
QUOTE(OLDTON @ Jul 31 2007, 12:04 PM) [snapback]307432[/snapback]
Brilliant news if we could secure all three before saturday.

Maybe now people will trust McInally's judgement
C'MON EH TON

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mortonjag 2007-07-31 12:12:32
QUOTE(WullTon @ Jul 31 2007, 12:09 PM) [snapback]307440[/snapback]
Why ?

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mortonjag 2007-07-31 12:24:09
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 31 2007, 12:11 PM) [snapback]307444[/snapback]
Jim McInally could go back in time, sign Pele, Platini and Maradona, bring em back, treat everyone at Cappielow to dinner at The Ritz, come on himself and score the injury time winner against Celtic in the SCottish Cup next MAy while arranging for Kelly Brook to give you a gobble for the full 90 minutes, and you'd still be greetin about something you moaning, bawbag of a tosspot cnt!


Correct, and that does not make one iota of difference to the situation at Cappielow. cool.gif

If you are just an eternal optimist Donga, I salute your optimism-just stop attempting to muffle others' reality.

It seems to me-by your own standards- that should McInally, in the fullness of time, prove to have been thick, pig headed, incompetent, and a liar, you'd still be the same fawning, slevering sycophant who misguidedly believes he's admired for his blinkered take on a farce. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-31 12:31:44 -
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 31 2007, 12:12 PM) [snapback]307446[/snapback]
Well, we do need strikers. huh.gif


Spoonsy-Graham-Templeman-Linn-sure get another couple by all means, but what about wingers, defenders, and that 'somebody to put a foot on the ball' whom JM promised at the end of last season?
mortonjag 2007-07-31 12:33:16
QUOTE(Muz @ Jul 31 2007, 12:20 PM) [snapback]307459[/snapback]
I never post on here anymore as I think it's ruined by the likes of the person you mention above, but my God Donga son that made me f***ing laugh!!!

Nice avatar Muz-wrong colour of specs!
mortonjag 2007-07-31 12:45:31
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 31 2007, 12:35 PM) [snapback]307478[/snapback]
Until you can prove he can run onto a through ball MJ.... rolleyes.gif
I would not be relying on Graham at this level yet.
None of our strikers have proven themselves at this level - Temps didn't set it alight last time.
To be on the safe side, we need more options.
We won't need wingers if we're playing 3-5-2, would we? wink.gif
As for defenders - agree with ye, but it's not going to happen.
I think we still may have a fecking brilliant midfield combination - we're yet to find it though.



It's got f*ck all to do with formations IMO, and McGowan's a midfielder as far as I'm concerned-IF he's signed (and I'll be astonished) WHAT price has been shelled out for more bloody inexperience?

If Sturm's signed-good- it adds to the competition for places, but so far he's an unknown quantity.

Four days to go and the board weans are coming in their pants JUST because we might be signing somebody.

I'm expecting to be told any minute that it has been planned like this from the moment Shoogly almost choked on his wallies in relief at Kirkcaldy! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-07-31 12:51:17
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 31 2007, 12:37 PM) [snapback]307480[/snapback]
You use your monkey to post? I hope yer keyboard's cleaned regularly you mucky b*****d.

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My monkey is impeccably clean at all times!
mortonjag 2007-07-31 12:53:51
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 31 2007, 12:18 PM) [snapback]307457[/snapback]
You want to throw in boys in league games now in central defence? Right. we're done talking now. See ya!


George Anderson might disagree.
mortonjag 2007-07-31 13:04:20
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 31 2007, 12:54 PM) [snapback]307502[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2007-07-31 13:08:58
QUOTE(McMenamie @ Jul 31 2007, 12:49 PM) [snapback]307496[/snapback]
You are murder all you do is moan what do you want Ronaldo or friggn the old Pele.

You will always find something to moan about you are never happy do us all a faver and dont go to watch them if all you have to do is moan,moan,moan.

The season has not even started and you already have put me on a downer before a ball is kicked get a grip and try giving morton a chance bacause in my eyes you are not a supporter but a hindrance.



It's funny how you and your ilk happily fly in the face of reality.

If you've been 'put on a downer' because of somebody elses perfectly legitimate opinions, I'd suggest that's your problem, for which there's a simple remedy.



mortonjag 2007-07-31 13:11:29
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 31 2007, 12:47 PM) [snapback]307494[/snapback]
If we play 3-5-2, we do not need wingers, correct?
McGowan is only a midfielder in your imagination, in the same way Spoonsy runs onto through balls all the time.
Still no evidence for that? ohmy.gif

If we can't see past midfielder after midfielder after midfielder to the detriment of every other position, and choose to ignore wingers as an option, we have to play that kind of formation-correct?
mortonjag 2007-07-31 13:13:15
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Jul 31 2007, 12:58 PM) [snapback]307504[/snapback]
He probably takes delight in winding up most of us on here, and whilst knocking out a few 'knuckle children'
in the privy of his dark palace......musing himself at his glorious conquests......He is obviously bumming our beloved chairman, due to his clear distained like of DDFR...pretending to hate him????...



Have I ever stated I'm not a Fudgy Wudgy packer Vader?
mortonjag 2007-07-31 13:14:43
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 31 2007, 01:06 PM) [snapback]307512[/snapback]
Where doth Stevenson play then? unsure.gif

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DON'T ask sensible questions-you will confuse!
mortonjag 2007-07-31 13:24:39
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 31 2007, 01:07 PM) [snapback]307513[/snapback]
I am not attempting to muffle reality. Are you a fortune teller? YOU are attempting to muffle others' excitement and enthusiasm for the new season ahead, and you are doing a good job.

What you have said about McInally is libellous and as for me being a sychophant, and certainly to the degree you make out, you are so, so wrong. No one will give it tough to the management and board worse than me if they aren't pulling their weight, but you want them strung up before a ball is kicked. You're a confidence-shattering maniac, not a Morton supporter.
Fcking well said. The man is a hindrance. He, and others, are causing alarm and negativity before we've even seen the final squad. Nutjobs the lot of them.


That's the sort of splurge that totally makes my day.

If you think my statement is libellous I'd suggest you re-read it, and then read your statements about me.

I believe you will find that I never make potentially derogatory statements about third parties without incorporating a conditional clause!

If you care to go ahead on JM's behalf, the first consultation may be free, so you'll not be out of pocket-just told to 'grow up'.

You simply choose to believe the Board and management are 'pulling their weight'. Have a read at the 'FAO Mortonjag and Chrissiboi' thread again Donga-that is but ONE example, and I have copies of all the correspondence.

WHY do you think that is Sir? Could it be that Mortonjag knows a little more about litigation than your goodself?
mortonjag 2007-07-31 13:29:53
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jul 31 2007, 01:10 PM) [snapback]307518[/snapback]
Totally pointless Donga, have you not realised that our own Harold Shipman can do no wrong and is always right. That's added to the fact that he or someone in his family is an expert on everything and I mean everything. Perhaps the entire board should just put him on ignore. Infact I'll start it.


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mortonjag 2007-07-31 13:36:18
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 31 2007, 01:11 PM) [snapback]307520[/snapback]
There's concern for the season, and then there's ridicule of those who aren't so worried. You think we are all thick cos we're showing enthusiasm and hoping it goes well. That's why you rile us.

Get behind the team and the management and the board cos, like it or lump it, that's who's there for us at the moment.

Or we could get your mate in as Director of football.....FCK OFF!



I think you should perhaps take the advice of the Chocolate boy.

It is impossible to ridicule something which is not ridiculous-I have already supported you in your optimism, and asked that you do not attempt to ridicule others' realism.

My 'mate' runs an organisation with a turnover which makes Golden Casket look VERY small. In addition, his job depends on him performing adequately. Your 'f*ck off' suggestion is utterly laughable in the circumstances.

To put it in simple terms and to avoid confusion

By all means be a 'happy clappy'-just stop preaching it.
mortonjag 2007-07-31 13:38:17
QUOTE(Roger Mellie @ Jul 31 2007, 01:14 PM) [snapback]307527[/snapback]
I already have Moronfag on ignore but the problem I find is people quoting him. There really is no need to quote him as it's the same old piss time after time.

I do agree though that it's much easier to read once you ignore him. I'd also suggest putting Newton on ignore but i'm sure most of you already have.




Correct-including JM-despite Shoogly claiming he'd be in touch!
mortonjag 2007-07-31 13:38:56
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 31 2007, 01:14 PM) [snapback]307528[/snapback]
If we could get all 3 signings that would be fantastic. But I still believe McInally is making a monumental blunder by not securing the services of an experienced holding midfielder.
The 2 players who would cover that role are now out with injury. If the set up of the midfield is wrong, it won't matter who you have playing up front.

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mortonjag 2007-07-31 13:46:17
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 31 2007, 12:56 PM) [snapback]307503[/snapback]
Who? We're talking about the here and now here.


You mean you're talking about 'making it fit'.

I tend to agree with you, but you don't rule players out JUST because of their age. JM has been singularly guilty of failing to blood some of the youngsters in favour of the same 'old hat' week in, week out.

I cited the example of George Anderson because he's a local lad who was playing as a young teenager in central defence for a Morton side which would scud the present lot.
mortonjag 2007-07-31 13:48:57
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 31 2007, 01:12 PM) [snapback]307522[/snapback]
Read the posts of the sensible people. Or do you want us playing on a tattie field this season?

You're describing yourself in the plural again Chocolate boy.
mortonjag 2007-07-31 13:54:34
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 31 2007, 01:32 PM) [snapback]307549[/snapback]
I'm sure you do, you condescending toss. If that thread shows correspondence showing Jim McInally to be "thick, pig headed, incompetent, and a liar" then I concede to you. I've not read it yet.

If not then, I think JM would have a good case against you, particularly the liar part.


Well you think wrong! You've clearly failed to re-read what I wrote. Why not try again?

I'm NOT deliberately condescending Donga-I don't pull kids up for spelling, or try to belittle posters who clearly aren't very bright, but every time I'm seriously challenged I will respond as I see fit.

Is that not reasonable?


mortonjag 2007-07-31 13:56:42
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jul 31 2007, 01:53 PM) [snapback]307560[/snapback]
Hate to talk football, guys, but still think we need a strong experienced midfielder. I would sacrifice one or two of the suggested targets for an Alan Jenkins type player.


How DARE you-it is not in the great plan!
mortonjag 2007-07-31 14:55:55
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Jul 31 2007, 01:41 PM) [snapback]307557[/snapback]
We have plenty of strikers. However, one of them can probably score more goals from midfield at this level than he can from up front, so we can cancel Weatherson out right off the bat. Then we have Templeman who was at this level before and did nothing. We know he's improved, but how much ? Bobby Linn ? Unproven. Graham ? Looked dire against Ayr Utd. last season.

We might have plenty, but a couple more could just make things safe. Jani Sturm looks like someone who can do a job, so long as he has some support up front. Paul McGowan ... well, I've made my thoughts on him clear so I'm not going into it.

As for you MJ, your attitude is once again arrogant. Everyone that doesn't agree with you is an optimist and you're the realist. In other words, everyone else is wrong. That's pure arrogance, and don't ever think you know more than other people, when it's quite clear that you don't. You THINK that you do. That's all.

And you Sir are a belatedly sad plagiarist-there is nothing more arrogant than a combination of arrogance and ignorance. Please stop accusing ME of the latter-I know a LOT more than SOME other people about SOME things-so do NewTON, and Chrissiboi.
mortonjag 2007-07-31 19:35:58
QUOTE(bigstu22 @ Jul 31 2007, 07:18 PM) [snapback]307724[/snapback]
Apart from those of you who actually enjoy an exchange of words with him (her??), you're all playing into his attention seeking tactics. Chr*st, he's even succeeded again with me, and I've had him on ignore! for months!! 'nuff said


Is he much of a lover?



mortonjag 2007-07-31 19:40:09
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Jul 31 2007, 02:17 PM) [snapback]307576[/snapback]
Could understand it if Sturm chose Dundee over us, but not Accies. Their support is about half the size of ours... if they are a more attractive option than Morton, then we really must be skint, or have something/someone else that's putting off potential signings.


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mortonjag 2007-07-31 20:02:20
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 31 2007, 03:05 PM) [snapback]307588[/snapback]
It is reasonable, but you rant at us as if we were stupid. And who belittles posters for that? I certainly don't.


I neither mean to 'rant on' nor do I think you are stupid Donga. Several posters do appear to be stupid-particularly the ones who regularly 'have a go' at me and then press the 'huff button' when they can't cope.

I dearly love Morton. I give the players my total and unqualified support at every game.

It upsets me that individual players are regularly 'ripped to shreds' on our forum by posters who appear to have issues.

It's very clear that we've reached a watershed at Cappielow. Some seem content to have achieved 1st Division status-others are more ambitious.

I 'rant' only because I can't understand why people can be so blind to reality, and twist fact to suit their preconceived ideas of what's going on.

The closed season has effectively been a 'non-event' after our promotion. Despite promises and expectations very little has materialised. Douglas Rae's most active contribution was denying publicly a problem with the youth set up, while Jim McInally has said virtually nothing.

I'd like some honesty and openness from the Board and management-that would go a LONG way to salve the current unrest.

There is little point in criticism of 'negativity boys' simply because their views don't suit the Chairman.

It's perfectly obvious to me that not all is healthy behind the scenes-papering over cracks is at best a temporary measure.

Maybe if more of us did some 'ranting' about our concerns, the powers that be might finally accept that they cannot treat their fellow Ton fans (and paying public) like little children who should be seen and not heard.

mortonjag 2007-08-01 06:42:54
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Aug 1 2007, 01:03 AM) [snapback]307914[/snapback]
what a lot of s h i t e

thanks mortonjag



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mortonjag 2007-08-01 06:48:02
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jul 31 2007, 03:22 PM) [snapback]307592[/snapback]
I wish Mcinally would sign someone to put a foot in your mouth ..

At first you were funny but after around 2000 posts of your drivvle you became tiresome now you are intollerable ..

Edinton Ban this dickhead , he is a waste of space and bandwidth

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Says the man with the huge advert for some scabby wee Edinburgh club on every post-and Mortonjag's not allowed to tell the truth in his crayons.
mortonjag 2007-08-01 07:16:34
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jul 31 2007, 03:36 PM) [snapback]307595[/snapback]
According to you sir. But then you know everything about everything and have never been wrong.

If YOU and the other posters mentioned have all these facts about apparent mismanagement then why not post them here and be done with it once and for all, instead of turning evey thread into a negative rant. Just list these FACTS and then you and the other posters mentioned can move on?



I'm not sure that your last sentence makes any sense to me.

Why would a detailed breakdown of the story for the benefit of all and sundry allow US to 'MOVE ON'?

What I will tell you is that Douglas Rae welcomed NewTON's offer, describing it as 'brilliant', and stating that JM would be 'delighted to receive Stan Webster's recommendations', (in an e-mail of 5th July.) He also mentioned how closely he and JM work together in all club matters.

After several prompts when nothing had happened, he promised to 'give JM a push' at Morecambe, and subsequently the club stated JM would be in touch by Friday last.

Almost FOUR WEEKS on and Webster has STILL had no word. In the interim Rangers are interested in two of his young players.

(For the benefit of posters who've just 'clocked' this topic, Webster coached, among others, Scott McDonald of Celtic -for 5 years)

I believe I'm providing the story in as accurate a way as possible. I obviously don't have the 'Scapa' bias on this, as nobody's made any comment apart from early and encouraging ones from Crawford and DDFR.

In that respect I'm witholding full details in the interest of fair play. If I were to publish all documentation at the moment, it would present a one sided picture of apparently very fragmented communication to say the least.
mortonjag 2007-08-01 07:31:03
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Jul 31 2007, 03:44 PM) [snapback]307597[/snapback]
I'm neither arrogant or ignorant. Unlike yourself, I can actually listen to other views without thinking people are stupid and wrong. As I say, you only think you know everything. You don't. You have opinions on what's going on at the club and that's fine. Pretty much 100% of your opinions are actually pretty valid ones at that. It doesn't stop them being only opinions though.

I don't mind your posting the negative side all of the time as I think this board needs it at times. It's when you think that your opinion is the be all and end all. That's when I get annoyed.


I hope my last post has clarified things Dom Dom. You are clearly not stupid. As I said to Donga I don't treat people disparagingly for the sake of it.

I have plenty of friends on the board and regularly exchange p.m.'s with posters who don't seem to see me as arrogant. They will confirm that I listen to, and respect their views.

When I am attacked (regularly and often indiscriminately), not so much for my opinions, but simply because others have 'issues' with their perception of 'Mortonjag', the offending posters get what's coming. I simply defend my corner.

The usual procedure is to then treat me as abusively as they can (I NEVER complain to the Mods), before pushing their little 'huff buttons' and BOASTING of that as an achievement! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-01 07:37:00
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jul 31 2007, 03:55 PM) [snapback]307602[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2007-08-01 07:39:22
QUOTE(McMenamie @ Jul 31 2007, 04:04 PM) [snapback]307607[/snapback]
I just want to say to you you ARE becoming anoying you love the attention.

Lets look at facts here about 50% of users have you on ignore about 90% are pissed of with you and the other 10% are just as much atention seker as youre self.

Fact is you are not wanted so bolt ya dobber if we all had you on iggy it would be so good as you ruin everyones posts.

We all look at new posts on here and read them with all our own thaughts and opinions yet you ruin all of them with youre dribble and negativity.

if we all were like you then no one would want to be at morton as a player or any other role as you want to fkn much no mater how good and how well we play you bring us down.

You my friend are an imbarasement to this club now bolt.


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mortonjag 2007-08-01 08:14:37
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 31 2007, 06:38 PM) [snapback]307694[/snapback]
32 hours without evidence MJ?
I'm beginning to think Weatherson mebbe doesn't run onto through balls as you state. rolleyes.gif unsure.gif


It's so long since we saw through balls at Scapa-John Maisano was the last guy who really knew the meaning of that term, and Williams AND Spoonsy both benefitted.
mortonjag 2007-08-01 08:18:36
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 31 2007, 07:01 PM) [snapback]307713[/snapback]
I think St Mirren are seeing him as their goalkeeping coach.


Given his experience as assistant manager at Bloo Toon, I though we had plans in that direction when he signed.

Now an SPL club think he can do the job for them!
mortonjag 2007-08-01 08:43:11
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 31 2007, 10:48 PM) [snapback]307861[/snapback]
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Mel was a central midfielder, converted as we didn't have a left back.

And McGregor, Walker, Keenan, McAlister, McAnespie and Phillips are all better at left back than Mel was!!!!


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What recent favour have you had from Deano Chocolate boy? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-01 08:45:58
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 31 2007, 10:32 PM) [snapback]307845[/snapback]
Team was Trialist, Keenan, Trialist, Gilbride, Phillips, Mitchell, McGeough, Graham, Coakley, Templeman, Seidou.

So he's returned from the abyss.


Is he not French?
mortonjag 2007-08-01 08:51:12
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 31 2007, 11:36 PM) [snapback]307905[/snapback]
I agree. Both this and the matchday forum are about the team and its a needless overelaboration separating them.


Stop trying to confuse humble posters with your big words and arrogance-who do you think you are questioning authority-those are only your opinions and you're presenting them as fact.

You're beginning to sound like some sad old semi demented c*nt who sits all day at his keyboard dreaming of the days when he was capable of '69' with the odd sheep. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-01 08:57:20
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 31 2007, 06:30 PM) [snapback]307686[/snapback]
No team in the entire history of British football, never mind Scottish football has ever managed to go through a season without losing a game. We came as close as anyone in 63/64 with only one game lost.

Why do you concentrate on the negatives? Last season we lost 7 league games which was less than 1 in 5. Can't we look forward to the new season for a wee while without the doom and gloom merchants spouting their dire predictions. Maybe you are right, but at the moment, I just don't want to hear it!


Just give us a bell! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-01 09:12:07
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 1 2007, 08:19 AM) [snapback]307933[/snapback]
To each their own I guess.

All I will say is that no one can drive you completely insane or frustrate you completely without your full 100% co-operation.

I base any decisions I make on that, namely I choose not to co-operate. I have only used the ignore button once and find my time on here the more enjoyable because of it.

But as I said, to each their own. I remember myself and Jaffa going through a long spell where we refused to read each others posts (allegedly). No offence was intended and none was taken - personal choice and all that.

TonInDublin

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Truth is 'Jesus' that we were getting along fine until you took the huff when I pointed out that the world does not begin and end within a twenty mile radius of Dublin.

....and it WAS below the belt calling me a racist-then pretending you hadn't by altering it to 'stirring undertones', and other naughty innuendo.

Having reduced a man of your obvious intellect and debating ability to the use of the 'huff button' has disappointed me. I had expected more of you.
mortonjag 2007-08-01 09:43:52
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 31 2007, 07:01 PM) [snapback]307714[/snapback]
Even after they have their turf war it'll still be more dangerous to live in Greenock than Glasgow blink.gif

Living in Glasgow can be 'murder' at times Willow, but let's face it there are ways of reducing your risk of trouble no matter where you live-for example in Govan when wearing a Cellic scarf you carry a Kalashnikof-in Possil one always has to hand, a wallet containing £20 (cheap at the price of one's wellbeing), and in Bearsden avoid driving or walking anywhere near a School entrance at 3.30 of an afternoon, or you risk ceremonial mashing by 'Shaggin' Wagon'.
mortonjag 2007-08-01 09:47:55
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 31 2007, 01:37 PM) [snapback]307554[/snapback]
there's a difference between moaning on here about the club's almost total disregard for the support and giving total support to the team on a saturday.


CORRECT

mortonjag 2007-08-01 09:57:07 No harm to the good folk of Gretna, but in my opinion they're just being led up the garden path by Mileson and his fanciful ideas. What a joke-a chance to progress in the cup against premier league opposition, and they can't even muster 1000 fans-and Mileson says they're heading for Europe!

Rowan was a great striker for us, but we don't even know if he's a good manager, as he's got a wealth of talent to choose from, thanks to Mileson's money.

That was it!
mortonjag 2007-08-01 10:02:05
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Aug 1 2007, 09:50 AM) [snapback]307953[/snapback]
I'd never put you on ignore cos i love guessing which scene from The shining you're going to have a picture of next! smile.gif

I try and read most of MortonJag's posts too - some of it is ok. However, upon the exciting news of three imminent big signings and his bleating about McInally, another broadside at the club, etc, etc straight away, it was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Some of the above like him cos they are fellow McInally haters.


I was not aware of your hatred for our Manager-why HATE somebody when he's only trying his best? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-01 10:05:17
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Aug 1 2007, 09:04 AM) [snapback]307942[/snapback]
Real Hoops' father?!?

Don't get you.

So, the Morton manager passed on some Aussie kids? I'm sure they would have been worth a look - but I'm not gonna lost sleep over it.

I'm glad he ignored the chairman if that's what happened - it's Jim's team, not Rae's. Shows who's boss.

I need to read more info on this, but I don't think this is worth the stick he's getting.



Please do!
mortonjag 2007-08-01 10:06:28
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Aug 1 2007, 09:32 AM) [snapback]307947[/snapback]
stop talking
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mortonjag 2007-08-01 10:08:03
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Aug 1 2007, 09:34 AM) [snapback]307948[/snapback]
Talking of Dooooooooog-ieeeee, I see there's a photo of him in the bottom left corner of page 49 in today's Record.


What's he not done next?
mortonjag 2007-08-01 10:14:05
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Aug 1 2007, 10:02 AM) [snapback]307959[/snapback]
Must. Resist. wink.gif


OH-go on-you're lovin' it! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-01 19:19:23
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 1 2007, 01:12 PM) [snapback]308148[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

The saddest part - the lads who are of interest to the Huns.

I don't understand ... how can we be more demanding than Ibrox ??

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What's puzzled me ever since this subject arose Newt is the bizarre silence of the Shooglyphile 'knowalls' who normally rush to the defence of the 'Puppet Show' at the merest hint of criticism.

Your question remains unanswered-it MAY be something to do with JIM THE DIM!


mortonjag 2007-08-01 19:33:07
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 1 2007, 12:17 PM) [snapback]308097[/snapback]
Mortonjag, either you have been led to believe a lie or you have arrogantly presumed this to be correct merely to suit you stance.

So now, I really would appreciate if you could keep your nose out and direct your self opinionated comments away from of my family. My father does not read this board (something your Australian friend should take note of) and therefore has no recourse to address or in this case defend himself and I really don’t appreciate you of all people bringing him and his personal correspondences into this public board.

However, as you have now aired your egotistical views I will admit that he has been approached by Newton regarding this matter however it is my view that far from “being actively involved in negotiations involving NewTON “ he actually has very little interest in involving himself with it or him at all.
Now, that is only my opinion but based on knowing my own father and speaking to him at length on the matter several times yet, admittedly, I may be wrong. You see, unlike you Mortonjag I don’t pretend to know everything while actually having a limited knowledge.

I have put you on ignore Mortonjag, not because I’m in the huff as you put it but like many others on here I find the opinions of the other board members interesting and varied enough to enjoy without the having to read the bleatings of an apparently frustrated often self deluded but always condescending man hiding behind an online persona.

It’s my opinion that your use of a small local online community to create and enjoy the delusion of soap-opera-esque bad-guy status would make a fantastic thesis for a Psychology degree.

For the reasons stated above I am still using the ignore function and therefore your reply will correspondingly remain unread and if quoted back by someone else then, ignored.

Have a good day.

It's just as well you've admitted that this is all your opinion RH, and knowing your previous behaviour, I've little doubt you'll read this post one way or another. Both NewTON and I have all copies of correspondence. Whether or not your father takes the matter any further, he HAS been ACTIVELY involved. I haven't a clue why you get so upset by my posts-perhaps you're still in the huff because I wouldn't accept 'Millions' as a 'Household Name'.

I believed until recently that you were just a wee boy like many of the posters, but am assured you're a grown man. How sad!
mortonjag 2007-08-01 19:58:58
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 1 2007, 07:56 PM) [snapback]308489[/snapback]
Mortonjag, you can be so f**king patronisingly annoying with your use of smileys and big pink letters.


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Hee hee f*ckin' hee.

If I state my opinions in normal English, I'm accused of being patronising of our uneducated 5/8th's.

If I keep it simple I'm accused of being patronising by our educated 3/8th's.

Tonsilitis, is this OK?

With regard to the 'SHOOGLY SHOW'.


TOLD YOU MONTHS AGO
mortonjag 2007-08-01 20:00:04
QUOTE(GMC @ Aug 1 2007, 07:50 PM) [snapback]308485[/snapback]
We know your'e a complete c*** already, no need to continue proving it...

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mortonjag 2007-08-01 20:14:21 You are both responsible adults.

We are the paying fans.

You may have noticed we're a wee bit apprehensive.

IS it sorted?
mortonjag 2007-08-02 07:09:02 I expect our Chairman, Mr Douglas DF Rae, owner and Managing Director of the succesful Golden Casket Confectionery Group to entertain the fans with his enthusiasm.

It should be a mirthful and jolly celebration of the unfurling of our Championship flag.

I predict a fairly healthy crowd-the fans and players will undoubtedly be 'Up for it' and I fully expect a victory.
mortonjag 2007-08-02 07:11:56
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 31 2007, 10:38 PM) [snapback]307848[/snapback]
Team should be similar or exactly the same as tonights.


Great-I've heard that one of the players said Deano was excellent on Tuesday.

Definitely going!
mortonjag 2007-08-02 07:27:48 IF £50,000-never mind £100,000 is currently available for players and it's spent on Gowser it won't surprise me.

Douglas Rae has been playing with his new toy now for five years, and still doesn't know how it works.
mortonjag 2007-08-02 07:30:32
QUOTE(Robert the Bruce @ Aug 2 2007, 12:54 AM) [snapback]308828[/snapback]
I hope you all realise Chairman Rao and his spies read these board.

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mortonjag 2007-08-02 07:32:20
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Aug 2 2007, 07:10 AM) [snapback]308859[/snapback]
I know what you are saying and feel the frustation too but a point worth remembereing is that Chelsea , Barcelona etc go after a lot of players and don't get them either. If the manager and chairman keep plugging away trying to get players we will get the quality everyone craves , eventually.

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mortonjag 2007-08-02 07:41:08
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 1 2007, 08:53 PM) [snapback]308566[/snapback]
I'd have hoped that we could fend(er) off opposition from Dundee more effectively.

Sadly we've been strung along.

Don't fret, though - plenty of time to tune things up ahead of the new season.

Rae is the machine head-he strings the rest along. JM's the square peg in a round hole, and Martin's the Nut.

The Telecaster from Lancashire's been strangely quiet about it all. What happened to his close relationship with the square peg?

12 string Jumbo?

10 weans and Jimbo.
mortonjag 2007-08-02 07:47:51
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Aug 2 2007, 07:38 AM) [snapback]308865[/snapback]
Singular please Robert. There is only one spy on this board.

How many counter spies Barbie?
mortonjag 2007-08-02 09:02:54
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 1 2007, 05:03 PM) [snapback]308337[/snapback]
On what basis is he a proven goalscorer ? If you are basing that solely on his goalscoring tally in previous seasons Paul McGowan is also a proven goalscorer.

If you are basing it on your assumption he is an out and out goalscorer you are wrong and probably haven't seen him play much.


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McGowan is a proven goalscorer as is Greacen.
mortonjag 2007-08-02 09:07:20
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 1 2007, 07:53 PM) [snapback]308487[/snapback]
He may have known that in advance but there's no way he could have predicted the impact on his self confidence. In any job, if you are offered a step up, you might think you can handle it but only experience the tell if you are right.
Templeman is a hugely improved player in the last year but we still need someone to capitalise on his flicks and prompts and I don't see that in the squad at present, even if Gowser does come back. Sturm might have been the answer.


Weatherson seems the obvious answer to me.

SPO
mortonjag 2007-08-02 09:17:49
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 1 2007, 09:58 PM) [snapback]308622[/snapback]
Hey VT. I had you categorised along with MortonJag but I was wrong. You are a supporter and with a valid viewpoint which you express. I don't always agree but thats fair enough.

On the other hand, MJ just looks for self gratification in expressing why a doctor knows, infallibly, how to run a football club, especially one not in the premiership.


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Why are you so needled by my presentation of fact?

Tonsilitis, you claim a doctor is looking for self gratification by stating the obvious!!

As a highly qualified insolvency practitioner, you can't see the writing on the wall if Rae doesn't take a side step VERY soon.

I DO understand the basic principles of running ANY business-I've never suggested I can, or want to run GMFC, but as you very well know, I'm acquainted with at least one person who could sort the Club out. I'm not suggesting he'd have us in the SPL in a couple of seasons, but he'd balance the books AND be accountable.
mortonjag 2007-08-02 09:25:52
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Aug 1 2007, 06:53 PM) [snapback]308448[/snapback]
Would like to know how this years season ticket sales to date compare to last year. Think the club have missed out on such a massive opportunity for excellent season ticket sales. Even two quality signings within the last few weeks would have really got the fans excited about the upcoming season. As it is, if there are no significant signings before Friday the club will lose out hugely on potential season ticket sales.

Even two good signings on Friday would see a queue of folk in at Smiths on Saturday morning for their season
tickets... and I'd be part of that queue. As it is, not interested.


Selling a football club to its public is different from selling sweeties Zhivago, though you could be excused for thinking they are one and the same thing.

I got my season ticket book yesterday-all covered in sweetie adverts.

Signing a big name always attracts the crowds and revenue.

Courting a decent sponsor for this season would have made fiscal sense too.
mortonjag 2007-08-02 09:38:23 DUNDEE have beaten Morton, Gretna, and Dunfermline to secure the signing of Jani Sturm. The Slovenian striker almost signed for Liecester two years ago, but has now agreed a 12 month term at Dens Park.

'Other clubs wanted me, but after I spoke to the manager, I wanted to join Dundee', Sturm said. 'It was a disappointment that I didn't get a move to the SPL, but I already know Dundee a little bit from the two weeks I spent with Dundee United, and it's a nice place'.

(From today's Herald)

So it looks like Jani's been 'sweet talked' by another Rae!
mortonjag 2007-08-02 09:53:46
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Aug 2 2007, 12:02 AM) [snapback]308776[/snapback]
As I said on another thread, the appointment of a footballing person to RUN THE CLUB is long overdue. Rae may have done well sellin sweeties, but despite his millions he's makin a soor ploom of things at Cappielow.

Now if you'd said that six months ago Chris-or was it just because I said it?
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mortonjag 2007-08-02 09:55:51
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 1 2007, 08:41 PM) [snapback]308544[/snapback]
Stare at this for a while

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mortonjag 2007-08-02 10:00:24 Of course we need an imposing experienced midfielder-we were promised one by JM too.

Part of the trouble is that our wage bill for midfielders is already disproportionate-and they're all inexperienced wee boys (unless McAnespie is played there unsure.gif ).
mortonjag 2007-08-02 10:05:50 Negativity = disagreeing with Mr Rae.

Positivity = wearing blinkers and rose tinted specs.

Reality = we're potentially weaker than last season

Creativity = doing something about what is becoming a farce.
mortonjag 2007-08-02 10:14:20
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 2 2007, 08:43 AM) [snapback]308877[/snapback]
Someone's upset blink.gif

Do you write into The Tele every week ??

If not why don't you start and you'll probably find most of your comments will get published as well.

Giz runs the MSC, if Sean or Midtons from the AHMS wrote in every week there's a good chance they'd have their
letters posted.

Away and dry your jealous eyes unsure.gif

I've often thought of writing a wee article for the 'Tilly' but out of respect for many folks who are genuinely doing their best for the club-I've refrained from 'going public'.

There again, it probably wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell of publication! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-02 10:25:39
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Aug 2 2007, 09:09 AM) [snapback]308884[/snapback]
i can't believe you would stoop SOLO

next time you try to be funny i would reccomend you take more time PICKING your witticisms

your crap jokes should go STRAT in the bin

to be quite frank mate, i think you are WAH out of line

oh, and regarding our signings (or lack thereof), i think we all need to have faith in our manager and chairman that they will get the players we need in time for the new season. basically, it all comes down to a matter of TRUSSt.
lets not forget a LUTE of time and effort has went into getting us this far, so lets not give up now.

On what do you bass that statement?
mortonjag 2007-08-02 10:30:42 Dear Mr Mortonjag,

I regret to inform you that your application has been unsuccessful.

We have kept your name on file, and should any similar positions arise in the near future we shall instantly discard correspondence from your goodself.


Yours Aye

Douglas Rae

(Chairman, Manager, Coach, and Spokesperson) GMFC.
mortonjag 2007-08-02 10:36:42
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 2 2007, 09:58 AM) [snapback]308901[/snapback]
Straight from gmfc .net:

Jani Sturm



So they had 'agreed' terms and were coming back the next day to sign! laugh.gif

Rushed straight across to the other Rae and said-'Beat this pal'!!!!!!!!!

Now IF ONLY there had been a pen and paper available at Scapa! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-02 10:42:31
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Aug 2 2007, 10:38 AM) [snapback]308937[/snapback]
You at the wind up? Shields is absolutely tiny, the last thing we need in our midfield is another midget. I can imagine a midfield with Shields, Millar, McLauchlin and Stephenson... surely that would be the smallest midfield of any senior team in Scotland?!? Good luck to Shields, but he's very simlar to what we have and won't significantly strengthen the starting 11.


Bobby Collins wasn't that big Doc-but I agree. We now have a good wee right back. Time will tell where he's actually played, or if he even gets a regular game for that matter.

I've seen him twice and he showed more 'baws' than our whole midfield did in some games last season.
mortonjag 2007-08-02 10:49:44
QUOTE(McCauley87 @ Aug 2 2007, 10:37 AM) [snapback]308934[/snapback]
I've just said this in the Jay Shields topic but I'll say it again. Shields can play in this role and Dundee fans felt this was his best position from what I gather from their comments on Pie & Bovril so perhaps Shields is Jim's solution for the midfield area. He also has experience at this level and at the SPL even though he is still relatively young.


In terms of ability you might be right.

In terms of experience-no.

Do you think for a minute that the establishment among the players are going to regard the 'new kid on the block' as an inspiration?
mortonjag 2007-08-02 10:51:24
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 2 2007, 10:49 AM) [snapback]308956[/snapback]
A whole midfield of them though?
And I thought Snow White had height problems... dry.gif

Aye -she was addicted to Seven Up.
mortonjag 2007-08-02 10:52:45
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Aug 2 2007, 10:47 AM) [snapback]308954[/snapback]
Assuming your a Trust member what reply did you get when you emailed them?



MR Rae-I just LOVE your signature! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-02 10:56:32
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 1 2007, 12:02 PM) [snapback]308074[/snapback]
Looks like the correct answer was option 2 - after the RC final. ohmy.gif


How do I find my score?
mortonjag 2007-08-02 11:00:01
QUOTE(Shed7 @ Aug 1 2007, 11:31 AM) [snapback]308001[/snapback]
I've ignored TiD for years, but somehow I'm continually drawn to read his utter pish! rolleyes.gif


Just buy the King James version-you can pick it up and put it down as you please-Shed!
mortonjag 2007-08-02 11:02:38
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 1 2007, 11:48 AM) [snapback]308041[/snapback]
And it's not the first time either Boozie. Last time I was over he was talking about dressing up as a lassie, and how I should see him when his make up was on and his hair was tied back. Then he back pedalled badly, something about how he's in an amateur dramatic group, and is big into acting. Aye right, and my c**k's a kipper.

Well let me tell you the Oscar this year for "Outstanding Achievements in the Cadbury Canal" goes to Shed 7.

Just pray you're not one of the ones he wants to thank. (and yes, thank was rhyming slang)

TonInDublin

This grown man describes my posts as 'pish'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-02 11:07:42 The Gourock Ropeworks was owned by the Semple family who lived in Kilmacolm. It was known as the 'Gourock Ropeworks' for as long as I can remember, and was a profitable business with a large workforce. I knew a guy who was a foreman there for about three decades.
mortonjag 2007-08-02 11:16:29
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 2 2007, 10:59 AM) [snapback]308966[/snapback]
Your profile > Options > Find member's posts > Hunt for post 10,000 in them.
Probably about page 3-7, I'd guess.

FFS-I DIDN'T realise it was all put in wee leagues like that

10,118 IS slightly embarrassing! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-02 11:20:18
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Aug 2 2007, 11:11 AM) [snapback]308974[/snapback]
Always been Gourock Ropeworks (as far as I'm concerned even though the building was in the Port). It's strange and sad in some ways to see the destruction of the water front to make way for new industrial non-entities and appartments. We have lost a lot of our local heritage and history with the demolition of the majority of buildings and cranes. In that respect I was glad to see them finally approved the plans for the Ropeworks.

However, I remember tales my grandfather told of nearly 1 million men working the Clyde, how when he was a nipper he used to have to 'chap-up' his 'team' to make sure they were up and leaving for the yards before he went to school, and how he was refused when he tried to sign up for WW2 as he was needed to build boats and therefore maintain the war effort. Inverclyde really needs to take a good look at itself and try to keep some of it's history alive.

ScotinBelgie

When I was a boy in the Port there were four thriving shipyards in the town. I can still remember the men running out of the yards at closing time to catch the buses home. Very very few had cars in those days.

Can't believe how much things have changed in 50 years!
mortonjag 2007-08-02 11:22:11
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 2 2007, 11:20 AM) [snapback]308983[/snapback]
It's all stored to be used as evidence by Shoogly when it all goes tits up. rolleyes.gif


That'll be at about 11,000 posts then! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-02 11:24:56
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 2 2007, 09:57 AM) [snapback]308900[/snapback]
Was that sarcasm?

Looking forward to a good day. Morton to win 2-1.

Magic! smile.gif

NO
mortonjag 2007-08-02 11:31:14
QUOTE(nedson @ Aug 2 2007, 11:07 AM) [snapback]308972[/snapback]
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yeah definitley... he seemed a bit of a headless chicken at first but for a wee guy he's got no fear... Some wreckless tackles but the ref kinda doesnt mind coz he's so small!

Good player



OH Dear-David McGregor's quite a good goalie mind!
mortonjag 2007-08-02 11:36:28
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 2 2007, 11:24 AM) [snapback]308987[/snapback]
He then should be the perfect replacement for Finlayson , who has the same problem with a final delivery. unsure.gif

...and who was listed as an attacking midfielder when signed from Stranraer where under a decent manager he'd been part of the backbone of the Club's successful promotion season.

The rest is history!!!
mortonjag 2007-08-02 11:41:13
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 2 2007, 11:28 AM) [snapback]308991[/snapback]
Sorry I forgot to take your age into account tongue.gif



No-it's not that-what does she do next-I can't keep this up for much longer!
mortonjag 2007-08-02 11:42:46
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 2 2007, 11:27 AM) [snapback]308990[/snapback]
What was your general feeling about the the club handled the possible link with Stan Webster sending players from Australia ?

He's probably on the 'phone to his lawyer!
mortonjag 2007-08-02 11:45:25
QUOTE(rex manning @ Aug 2 2007, 11:43 AM) [snapback]309006[/snapback]
Are you blaming JM for Finlayson being unable to beat his man, make a forward pass or cross a ball?

Blame him for signing him in the first place by all means.


That's a very silly question IMHO!
mortonjag 2007-08-02 11:48:28
QUOTE(ian clinging @ Aug 2 2007, 10:25 AM) [snapback]308920[/snapback]
Presumably Sturm went to Dundee because they offered him more money than us. In addition to Sturm they have signed six or seven players all, one presumes, on decent money. What has happened to the massive debts they had? Surely they haven't been paid off?


He went, apparently because he liked the Manager, and Dundee is a 'nice City' and closer to home.

He'll still be able to pop in to JM's hoose for elevenses mind you.
mortonjag 2007-08-02 11:53:37
QUOTE(rex manning @ Aug 2 2007, 11:47 AM) [snapback]309016[/snapback]
I just think Finlaysons mung and no amount of coaching is going to change that.



Kevin Finlayson-Saint or Sinner-who started that thread?

...and who got almost universally crucified for daring?


K P Low was treated the same way for the 'Taxi' thread.


For a long time it was sacrilege even to describe MR Rae as anything other than the Saviour of Mankind

I've NEVER rated Kev in the roles he's been FORCED to adopt by St James of the Immaculate Gameplan.

He was still a BLOODY EFFECTIVE player under Neil Watt's guidance.
mortonjag 2007-08-02 11:57:54
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 2 2007, 11:47 AM) [snapback]309015[/snapback]
Is there a Mr Galaxy? rolleyes.gif

You're thinking of Mr Universe, and Mr Fudgy Wudgy would have him for breakfast!
mortonjag 2007-08-02 12:02:21
QUOTE(nedson @ Aug 2 2007, 11:57 AM) [snapback]309031[/snapback]
think he should be pee tested! Dundee alright but the only way it looks nice is on the way out!!!

Our debt was restructured by the bank where we "sold" Dens Park to a company headed up by our board and the club then rents the stadium back at an agreed cost and in turn the money is transferred to the bank and pays the debt off gradually.

In other words the club itself has no debt but the comapny which is owned by board does.

Easy eh?? wacko.gif



They used to make good sweeties in Dundee - do Keillors still do that-I thought there was still a Mr Keillor who saved Dundee by incorporating it into his sweetie business!
mortonjag 2007-08-02 12:05:48
QUOTE(rex manning @ Aug 2 2007, 12:00 PM) [snapback]309036[/snapback]
Well i hate to agree with you but i've never rated him either, i've not just come to this revelation.

I fail to see a role where he could be effective since he can't pass a ball, tackle or take a man on. He may have been stranraers best player, but, well, it was stranraer.

But anyway back to Jay Shileds, he's gonna be our Makelele!

I know-f*ckin pish they were that season too and still beat us!!!

If Shields is played as an orthodox right back-I believe he'll do VERY well for us.
mortonjag 2007-08-02 12:10:57
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Aug 2 2007, 12:04 PM) [snapback]309042[/snapback]
A bit harsh... it's only football rolleyes.gif



I can't get my head round this idea that he DIDN'T go for a better financial deal. He's a professional footballer in his mid twenties, with a professional agent wanting his 'pay off'.

I suspect that they just wanted to soften the blow for Morton after all the Hospitality!
mortonjag 2007-08-02 12:14:24
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Aug 2 2007, 12:09 PM) [snapback]309048[/snapback]
I believe I've been saying it for quite some time. My views on Rae are relatively well known.


Obviously you're headed for a career in the Diplomatic Corps Chris!!

Try

BIG LETTERS

mortonjag 2007-08-02 12:16:16
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Aug 2 2007, 12:13 PM) [snapback]309054[/snapback]
Or perhaps our chairman made a pigs ear of negotiations and the player/agent realised the overly hands-on approach he employs at Cappielow.


Oh Dear-the cynicism of today's youth! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-02 12:20:12
QUOTE(C B @ Aug 2 2007, 12:09 PM) [snapback]309049[/snapback]
Will be gutted also if they pay anything over 50k for him. He's NOT going to get a game with Celic this year so get him on loan and keep the money in the bank or spend it wisely on a midfielder or a new centre half or a Lotus. sad.gif


Reggie


SHO6GLY
mortonjag 2007-08-02 12:22:51
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 2 2007, 12:19 PM) [snapback]309059[/snapback]
Was it optimism then?

You've got a reputation to maintain! tongue.gif


About Saturday in isolation, I'm VERY optimistic.

When the boys are 'up for it' we do well!
mortonjag 2007-08-02 12:25:20
QUOTE(C B @ Aug 2 2007, 12:19 PM) [snapback]309060[/snapback]
So he chose Dundee sweeties over our fudgy wudgys???? I knew it had nothing to do with money OR football unsure.gif


Have you ever seen a Fudgy Wudgy CB, let alone EATEN one? dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-02 12:26:59
QUOTE(nedson @ Aug 2 2007, 12:19 PM) [snapback]309061[/snapback]
I think some of you guys opinion of the City of discovery are off the mark a bit. OK its got its faults like any other town/city but its nowhere near as bad as some of you are making out.

The greenock/port glasgow area can only be described as the a*sehole of scotland but lets not get into that wink.gif

Anyway.. Hope theres gonna be a good squad of you comin through to Bonnie Dundee next week for the CIS cup match. Should be a good one!


I've stayed in Dundee for a couple of nights on more than one occasion. Not by any means Scotland's worst city, but a f*ckin' nightmare to drive about, and not ONE decent curry house!
mortonjag 2007-08-02 12:29:53
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 2 2007, 12:23 PM) [snapback]309066[/snapback]
I don't see how its his fault - His agent told Dundee our offer and they bettered it.
they were convinced by the stability at that club and were impressed by their aims.
Can we realistically think he was impressed by Shoogly and his poodle? unsure.gif


Shoogly has a POODLE!

I always saw him as a Yorkie man myself-in fact I dreamed the other night I saw JM with a wee pink ribbon roon his throat.
mortonjag 2007-08-02 12:34:41
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 2 2007, 12:29 PM) [snapback]309074[/snapback]
Due to the fact it'd be about TWO pages long tongue.gif


Why NOT!!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-02 12:38:14
QUOTE(nedson @ Aug 2 2007, 12:34 PM) [snapback]309075[/snapback]
Driving comment is spot on.. total nightmare but not a patch on Perth.

As for curry houses the best ones probably The Jahangir up at the west port. Really good in there. Better ones in Broughty ferry but bit of a pain if just nipping out for curry!


The Jahangir was a huge disappointment the night we went-but I'm spoiled for choice in Glasgow.

Does the old Scottish guy with the full Indian gear and Blue Turban still hand you the menu when you walk in? laugh.gif

he looked as though he already had one foot in the grave!
mortonjag 2007-08-02 12:41:12
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 2 2007, 12:37 PM) [snapback]309082[/snapback]
It'd probably be all the coded pish as well about the actress and the bishop. tongue.gif



That was not PISH-I'll have you know-that was poetic licence. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-02 12:50:11
QUOTE(franco @ Aug 2 2007, 12:37 PM) [snapback]309080[/snapback]
Just out of interest, how many clubs are run by 'football people'? I can only think instantly of Dundee, probably because they are a bit topical at the moment. Murray seems to run rangers, is it Desmond at celtic(?), David Dein did it all while at arsenal etc. this seems to me to be the standard way to do things in football, although that in itself is not an argument against change.


It depends on your definitions of 'Run by', and 'Football People'.

Mileson's a good example of what can be achieved by delegation-he clearly OWNS the Club.

It seems so obvious to me that the Ton's financial side has been handled in a haphazard fashion.

I'm not certain, but Shoogly bails us out to the tune of some £70,000 p.a.

That was quoted in a season when we had no outside Sponsorship-it's not a huge fortune in the big scheme of things.

What's so difficult about the concept of a salaried 'Director of Football'? He'd still ultimately be Shoogly's employee, but would HAVE TO have full control of his remit.
mortonjag 2007-08-02 14:10:44
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 2 2007, 01:13 PM) [snapback]309115[/snapback]
The trust is now the 2nd major shareholder in the club, hopefully in time they will be in a position to take control.

The main guy's in the trust, Jim McColl and Stuart Duncan, got involved at the time of STT out of necessity more than anything else. From reading their comments I think they would more than welcome someone into the fold if they had their own ideas and wanted to be more pro-active.

I keep saying I will get more involved, however I'm sure like a lot of other folk, have just not got round to it.

Would love to think that if there was a bit of a drive over the next few years the trust would be able to buy the club when Dougie retires.

Certainly the likes of St Midden and Clyde have made a go of it.

Shoogly's 78 and won't retire Piehutt.
mortonjag 2007-08-02 14:17:15
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Aug 2 2007, 01:02 PM) [snapback]309107[/snapback]
and how much would we need to shell out to get someone who was up to the job? yet more money "shoogly" would need to pay to "bail us out"

Mileson has achieved what he has at gretna because he hes bankrolled them to the tune of millions of pounds. much as we like to think of dougie as being some kind of money man who has a blank chequebook, he isnt in the same league as mileson (as a 3rd division side Gretna were outbidding some SPL teams on wages).

How short sighted can you be, or are you just acting 'daft'. Obviously a successful candidate would recoup his own salary and start to claw back the deficit.

I initially blasted Mileson for exactly what you've correctly stated, but he has stepped back, and rationalised in the last season, and he DOES delegate responsibility. The concept is ultimately flawed only because of his choice of club-how I wish he'd backed Morton.
mortonjag 2007-08-02 14:21:26
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Aug 2 2007, 01:11 PM) [snapback]309114[/snapback]
Yeh - Like winning the 2nd Division and getting us back into the 1st !!
Oh, I forgot - He's already done that


He's frittered his money away over five years of meddling Mack-if you can't see that now, i guess you never will.

It's all very well to have a go at me and others just because you don't like what we say, and how we say it, but Rae's been found wanting-it's just as simple as that.
mortonjag 2007-08-02 14:27:00
QUOTE(franco @ Aug 2 2007, 01:03 PM) [snapback]309109[/snapback]
I thought of wadsworth at gretna but reckoned it wasn't a great example. with effectively an infinite amount of cash to play with i don't think it's a terribly difficult job.

There's nothing difficult about the concept of a director of football, the difficulty is justifying the salary when you are already losing money - i thought that Morton were losing in the region of £450K per annum. You think that a director of football would be paid about £60K/annum so unless he can recoup that as an absolute minimum then it's a non starter. You know how that can be done but you previously refused to tell us how - maybe now you can share the light? That being the case i'd be fully behind the idea. I imagine the people at Partick also thought it was a good idea, but they made the position redundant at the end of last season.

Just to clarify, i'm not against the idea, just not convinced that it's the right thing to do.


Quite honestly franco I've lost the figures Shoogly published last December, but at the time my brother and I did a simple projection based on a relatively small percentage increase in income allied to the same percentage reduction in outgoings, and balancing the books seemed far from impossible using DR's own figures.

If somebody can dig them out I'd be delighted to have a look again. It's fine to talk of 60k as a huge sum, but we're getting rumours of at least that about to be spent on one player. Hal Stewart would turn over in his grave!
mortonjag 2007-08-03 05:48:02
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 2 2007, 09:21 PM) [snapback]309478[/snapback]
No, only player of note was Keenan who wound up the Arthurlie fans a hell of a lot laugh.gif


What did you expect when he used to play for Pollok!

Mon the Deano!
mortonjag 2007-08-03 05:52:41 I haven't a clue.

The Monkey predicts 2-1
mortonjag 2007-08-03 06:02:15
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 2 2007, 02:49 PM) [snapback]309171[/snapback]
It's hilarious that you post this literally two messages above your emotional appeal for Tonsilitis to accept your "presentation of fact."

Happy to keep the hilarity going Nach0-I could SWEAR Greacen has scored goals!!

Incidentally my comments to Tonsilitis were entirely phlegmatic-he seems to be growing less objective and more emotionally labile by the post!
mortonjag 2007-08-03 06:14:09 There are two areas where I feel the fans (ultimately the club's lifeblood) have been mislead.

1/ There was a clear indication from DDFR from day one that the club had SPL ambitions, and that he would not rest 'til we achieved that.

2/ JM has repeatedly stated that money is available-we are STILL hearing stories of a large financial offer for McGowan-yet we have failed to attract a solitary player to the club, McAnespie having more or less offered his services.


The evidence, as it stands 1 day from the big 'Kick off' suggests that we've been strung along with a pack of lies.

'Don't you think those lads should be given the chance to take us forward', Mr Rae said.

I didn't realise he was talking LITERALLY.


NOBODY seems able to get the truth from behind the scenes-'Divide and rule' is an expression which springs to mind.

Sometimes I DO feel sorry for JM.
mortonjag 2007-08-03 06:33:48
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Aug 2 2007, 01:27 PM) [snapback]309125[/snapback]
£50K is still way too much. I was told that Sionko a Czech internationalist was sold for £90K. Celtic should be just happy to get him off their wage bill and if he has any ambition of progressing his career then he should be jumping at the chance of first team football.

It mystifies me that with such sums of money apparently on offer that Morton can not bring experienced guys to give us a good chance in the 1st. Something doesn't add up.



HT speaketh sense.
mortonjag 2007-08-03 06:39:31
QUOTE(Magic Mathie @ Aug 2 2007, 02:14 PM) [snapback]309138[/snapback]
Sorry if this has been seen before but MJ gets a mention on Gowsa's Wikipedia page.

Gowsa

If we don't get him - just blame it on MJ tongue.gif


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I could swear the young lad has never met me!

The power of wee unofficial web sites which players are forbidden to browse.

JM-GET IT SORTED! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-03 06:49:07 Predictions like this have a habit of coming back to haunt the posters.

We don't have a squad of duffers-at their best they're probably as good as anything in the first division.

What we must accept is that potential and performance were a problem all last season. Most folk accepted that two or three experienced players in key areas could have seen us challenge for promotion again.

Football's a funny old game-we COULD still end up taking this division by storm, but as it stands I've got a horrible feeling that we're in for another season of fluctuating fortunes-'Highs' like the Killie game, and 'Lows' like the last Stirling one.

I predict 7th.
mortonjag 2007-08-03 06:53:22
QUOTE(Kaney @ Aug 2 2007, 07:02 PM) [snapback]309350[/snapback]
Welcome to the club Jay. Glad to see someone like yerself join us. Best of luck biggrin.gif
And to the moaners...
Ye can have a moan IF he doesn't perform. Jesus, cant you leave it until then? He may be the best wee player we've signed in years for all you folk know...
Some right negative b*stards on this board. It really is f*cking ridiculous at times...
Edit: Typo



I don't think many are moaning AT the player himself.

I was impressed by him-gutsy wee player-we NEED guts!
mortonjag 2007-08-03 06:57:57
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Aug 2 2007, 02:44 PM) [snapback]309164[/snapback]
I am hardly "having a go at you and others" - I am purely trying to point out that as a club we have come a long way under the current chairman and believe that for that he deserves to be to have some support on this board. I have never said that all he has done has been correct, but he has got us to where we are when others could or would not invest in the club.

Also MJ - when you think of where we were a few short years ago to where we are now, a statement like "He's frittered his money away over five years of meddling" is laughable. We have a relatively good young team who have played together for years, good training facilities, a fantastic playing surface (at some cost) and are improving the Ground.

You have your thoughts, guesses, feelings, assumptions on the Chairman and how he runs Morton and that is fair enough. Soon you may have succeeded it having all Morton fans who do not share your views quiting this message board and you can have it all to yourself to slag the Chairman and Manager -enjoy.

As I have said - I am not blinidly backing the Chairman, Board & Manager I just feel that we have come a long way and they deserve a certain amount of credit, support and a shot at the first division.

Fair enough-we shall soon have our answer.
mortonjag 2007-08-03 07:03:27
QUOTE(franco @ Aug 2 2007, 02:49 PM) [snapback]309169[/snapback]
Just give us some of the methods to increase revenue and decrease outgoings then. The first part of your plan adds £60K on to the salary bill.

I'm assuming the projections you made were more advanced than 'we'll increase revenue by 10% and reduce costs by 10%'! As i say, rather than exact numbers, just what sort of things with some sort of sense behind it.


franco, I've already offered to do that if somebody can paste the 'Mickey Mouse' accounts from the programme notes, or better still an official breakdown.

I believe the annual turnover is around a million pounds.

I would be looking closely at the figures with someone who runs an organisation with a turnover some three hundred times greater, and who in three short years has achieved a remarkable rationalisation, and deficit clawback there.


mortonjag 2007-08-03 07:08:19
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 2 2007, 06:29 PM) [snapback]309327[/snapback]
Do you think we ENJOY feeling like this? blink.gif

This is the most miserbale close season I can recall being a Ton fan and that's saying something.

A summer littered with broken promises and let down after let down.

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Of course we do-Shoogly told us-

The negativity boys are never happier than when they're having a good old moan!



....he moaned POSITIVELY! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-03 07:14:48
QUOTE(nedson @ Aug 2 2007, 04:25 PM) [snapback]309231[/snapback]
Nah he popped it.. Its his "younger" brother now!

Yeah you probably cant compare any indian inscotland to some of the ones in glasgow.

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I'll bear in mind the comments about the Grotty Fairy ones BTW.

There's a 'no bad' wee curry hoose in the Main Street in Cupar if you're interested!
mortonjag 2007-08-03 07:19:41
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 2 2007, 04:38 PM) [snapback]309237[/snapback]
Its not comparable in the sense that the Dundee property owning company still has a massive debt - about £8m from memory. Interest on that is going to be somewhere around £5-600,000 per annum which means that the football club has a large but undisclosed rent to pay on the ground - I would guess at least around £400,000.

Golden Casket group is debt free and has several millions on deposit (and I am not talking about thesweeties here either!) There is just no comparison.

I believe that this season Dundee football have had a one off injection of £250-300,000 which is allowing them to make the signings they have. Its a calculated gamble on getting them back to the SPL and if it fails this season, they may very well be in the Sh1t next year as there is no way that their income in the first division matches their costs without some form of subsidy!

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mortonjag 2007-08-03 07:20:27
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 2 2007, 05:41 PM) [snapback]309278[/snapback]
I disagree.

Dundee have shown the right level of ambition and been able to sign the players they went for. We are guilty of over ambition in that we went for players in the early part of the close season that we had no chance of signing. Its not that we had insufficient ambition - we had too much!!

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mortonjag 2007-08-03 07:21:02
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 2 2007, 05:47 PM) [snapback]309289[/snapback]
And some people are manic depressives!

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mortonjag 2007-08-03 07:32:31
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 2 2007, 10:37 PM) [snapback]309520[/snapback]
He was an absolute stand-out for the reserves against Gretna last time I saw him, a cut above almost every other player on the park.

If he's not good enough but some of the youth players are supposedly ready to make the step up sooner rather than later then some of the fans have a blind spot, I fear.

Edit: And I don't mean that in a bad way against the youth.



Agree Nach0-folk have conveniently short memories.

Some of the weans on the board just dislike the boy-'End of'.
mortonjag 2007-08-03 07:39:20
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Aug 2 2007, 03:46 PM) [snapback]309198[/snapback]
Yes and old Dougie gets criticised for much the same. Enough of the sarcasm. If you look at Clyde and Thistle, their trusts post regularly and keep the fans far more up to date than our trust does. People are quick to criticise the club for no information (and quite rightly too at times) but as the fans' representative and the second biggest shareholders, the trust must have some news they could tell us? That's my question, have the trust taken a vow of secrecy on all that goes on or are they not privvy to the goings on in the first place?

People may reply and say that it's not the trust's job to be a news service however the whole point of the trust is to give fans greater involvement in the club or at least to feel more of being a part of it. Since the Hugh know who days, I don't think the fans have ever felt so isolated and in the dark as to what's going on. Nobody's looking for trade secrets or insider info, just a wee update on what's going on.



If I agree, will you stop calling me names Ratarse? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-03 07:43:17 I don't know Jim McColl, but he is stated to be 'the fans' representative on the Board'.

He is also a director of the club.

Does Jim have divided loyalties in those capacities, or it it simply a case of 'Omerta' at Cappielow.
mortonjag 2007-08-03 07:46:30
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Aug 3 2007, 01:58 AM) [snapback]309587[/snapback]
They should play a game at Pollok Juniors. At least 2 posters on here are within walking distance of Newlandsfield.

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Spitting in my case Iain!!
mortonjag 2007-08-03 07:51:11
QUOTE(lush @ Aug 2 2007, 11:31 AM) [snapback]308994[/snapback]
Its a bit embarrassing, yes. .... and you never realised you had that many posts. rolleyes.gif


Obviously I knew I was over 10k when folk started saying so Lush!!!

Now I'll obsessionally be checking those wee league tables every day.

I wish I'd never asked! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-03 07:59:09
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Aug 2 2007, 07:48 PM) [snapback]309380[/snapback]
She was bumming him with a strap-on.


That's a scurrilous and vile misrepresentation of fact-AND you know it.

Lily, rumour has it that Sir Cliff had an extra marital sexual liaison with Ms Sue Barker.

If true, this provides some evidence to suggest that he may be capable of heterosexual sex and sin at one and the same time.
mortonjag 2007-08-03 08:03:49 Wee Nickerless Surgeon will be pleased at the saving to the NHS.
mortonjag 2007-08-03 09:32:43
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 3 2007, 08:39 AM) [snapback]309642[/snapback]
FINALLY!!! laugh.gif



I wondered who'd be first to bite-trust the Chocolate boy! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-03 09:37:12
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Aug 3 2007, 08:38 AM) [snapback]309640[/snapback]
No problem Dr Crippen / Harold Shipman / Mortonjoke

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mortonjag 2007-08-03 09:39:32
QUOTE(nedson @ Aug 3 2007, 08:40 AM) [snapback]309643[/snapback]
Thanks but I'd rather have a duff curry in dundee than risk my neck going to fife laugh.gif


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Mind you we've Fife to thank for our Big Sanny, though our Manager lives, I believe, in Monifeith!
mortonjag 2007-08-03 09:46:28
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Aug 3 2007, 09:30 AM) [snapback]309651[/snapback]
are you one of them ?


He's Dean Keanan's ex Siamese twin.

They were, sadly, joined at the heads.

Surgery was complicated by considerable loss of brain tissue, largely confined to ThornTON's side, though neither twin went unscathed.

Bitter Chocolate boy is resentful!
mortonjag 2007-08-03 10:00:39
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 18 2007, 07:50 PM) [snapback]290499[/snapback]
Just got a text from the legendary Gary Langley...

In a recent survey into blow jobs, and why men like them so much, 6% like the feeling, 12% like the excitement and 82% just like the f***ing silence!!

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What about the grunts and sooky noises, and the toenails scraping the plasterboard to f*** as the dug pants in admiration?
mortonjag 2007-08-03 10:03:05
QUOTE(nedson @ Aug 3 2007, 09:59 AM) [snapback]309660[/snapback]
Yes he does.. see him now and again wandering around sainsbury's in a bit of a daze.

Bit of a legend round here though is big Jimmy Mac. Through the p*sh in the 80's to our promotion winning team in the 90's.

Jimmy's the man!

How does he push the trolley with his arms folded?
mortonjag 2007-08-03 10:17:44
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Aug 3 2007, 10:00 AM) [snapback]309661[/snapback]
Morton played me in my living room last night. It finished 0-0. McInally didn't look interested and spent most of the match looking through my CD's, Graham missed a penalty when he smashed it off the edge of the fireplace and Coakley missed the game all together because he couldn't find the right buzzer.


Your living room and head are clearly of similar proportions.
mortonjag 2007-08-03 10:24:42
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Aug 3 2007, 10:10 AM) [snapback]309668[/snapback]
Jim's place as director is as chair of the Trust. He wouldn't be on the board without the trust's backing. So, therefore, he is not, or should not, have divided loyalties.

The real problem is the amount of fans who are not trust members, for whatever reason. And I will be renewing, if only to make sure I don't lose my £500.

As Nacho points out - If Rae wants to do another share issue the gap will increase and so will Dougie's asset base, based on a loan of £1m. So if he does pull the loan, and the club goes belly up, guess who our biggest creditor would be?

PS: I'm not as spokesman for the Trust, just a member, soon to renew.

I don't follow the financial side at all!

How much can I put into the trust in order to buy Shoogly out?

...or does it not work like that? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-03 10:35:24
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Aug 3 2007, 10:18 AM) [snapback]309672[/snapback]
Mid-table mediocrity will do me fine. Team needs to consolidate and the board needs to decide whether it has the ambition, or the funds to go further. Whati do worry about is that attendances will drop, when we stop beating teams regularly. Given that we rarely hit Rae's break even attendance figure in Div 2, I'm not sure this year will see the club making much money. Particulaerly given the recent comments about merchandising.


A good point, and one which the new Salaried Director of football would undoubtedly look at very closely.

Assuming an average income of £10 per fan per game, and some 25 home games per season, pushing the average crowd up by 1000 would generate an extra £250,000 p.a.

That ALONE would pay Greacen's suggested salary of 60k, make up the current deficit of (I think) about 70k, and leave 120k to spend!!!

That's before you even look at a DECENT sponsor, advertising income, Morton merchandise etc.

Do we NEED an assistant manager's salary?

How cost effective are the Chief Executive and Commercial manager?

Is Cappie being fed Whiskas when scraps would do just as well?
mortonjag 2007-08-03 10:49:25
QUOTE(franco @ Aug 3 2007, 10:28 AM) [snapback]309676[/snapback]
You previously said you had looked at the figures with your 'someone' and knew what you could do. Surely you can remember the key outcomes of that review?

would morton's actual accounts be available or will they be lost in Golden Casket's?

We simply looked at income and outgoings and worked out that a relatively small percentage change in each could see us break even.

GMFC is a limited company. The annual results must be available for inspection somewhere!
mortonjag 2007-08-03 11:02:19
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 3 2007, 10:38 AM) [snapback]309687[/snapback]
Loan notes are £500 each, I don't know if there's a limit to the amount of loan notes that an individual trust member can hold. The loan notes assist the Trust to acquire shares whenever they become available. So it'll take a load of dosh by any reckoning.

...and presumably it doesn't matter how wealthy the Trust may become-- unless Shoogly makes shares available he's always in charge.

The only advantage would seem to be in a Scott situation, where Rae had allowed the club to teeter on bankruptcy by withdrawing support.

Is that about it?
mortonjag 2007-08-03 11:08:25
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 3 2007, 10:40 AM) [snapback]309689[/snapback]
You will not be able to realistically increase the crowd by a third.
The club needs to be more savvy to commercial opportunities - the van is a good idea but if we sold cheap tat for the away fans at it - then it would be genius.
Also, the club does not appear to be watertight: too mmuch money appears to be lost per annum for a club with remarkably high crowds and a small squad.


Strongly disagree there-we were regularly pulling in well over three thousand a couple of seasons ago with virtually NO away support.

Start playing attractive football with a couple of 'personalities' in the side, and knocking in the goals-you'll be surprised at the potential of Inverclyde.
mortonjag 2007-08-03 11:10:11
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 3 2007, 11:08 AM) [snapback]309722[/snapback]
How can you be positive ? We have a poorer squad in a better league blink.gif

It's just Dougiespeak. Negativity boys are not to be tolerated!
mortonjag 2007-08-03 11:17:09
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 3 2007, 10:46 AM) [snapback]309700[/snapback]
This isn't good at all.
If we seriously wish to win the "War on Terror" we need to bring these bar-stewards to court, try them in a fair trial with jury (not that that's ever going to be fair) and convict them.


We certainly made an excellent job of the Lockerbie fiasco.

I'm glad he's died-it has saved us megabucks. I wish he had burned to death at the airport-it would have saved us MUCH more-enough to buy a couple of good players at least.
mortonjag 2007-08-03 11:20:21
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 3 2007, 11:18 AM) [snapback]309730[/snapback]
That is about it. It's called capitalism. One should bear in mind though that Mr Rae is a lifelong Morton Fan with a genuine love for the club, so if we must have an individual as custodian / benefactor, then we could do lot a lot worse than Dougie. In the future however, an egalitarian like me would prefer the Club to be fully owned by its supporters and the board being elected on a one member one vote basis. That's one reason that I am a loan note holding member of the Trust in addition to having a small shareholding in the Club itself.

TYDE
mortonjag 2007-08-03 11:22:55
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Aug 3 2007, 11:13 AM) [snapback]309727[/snapback]
What else can we do but be positive and get behind the boys that we have .. Negativity gets you nowhere in life .

Lets get behind the boys tommorrow and see what happens .. they might surprise a few people

Scott

I agree with that.

I'd add, mind you, that inappropriate optimism leads to bitter disappointment, while the opposite also applies!
mortonjag 2007-08-03 11:29:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 3 2007, 11:14 AM) [snapback]309728[/snapback]
Yes, but a lot of those "fans" were heading along because
a - it was cheap
and
b - we were winning most games.
The b situation is unlikely to come again for probably a couple of years?
Its easy to say :
"If we play better, we'll start getting the fans in to watch it."
That is a very risky business strategy - you know this.
That leads to ultimate rainbow-chasing, like Leeds who spent big in order to maintain Champions League football.
That went well. dry.gif


I believe that it is not by any means impossible to attract bigger crowds while we're in division 1

We should currently be on a rollercoaster-human nature doesn't change-even the signings of Sutton and Mensing ALONE could have paid for themselves, to say nothing of the possibility of promotion and a big chunk of money from Barrs.

I cannot BELIEVE the NEGATIVITY which emanates from behind closed doors at cappielow!
mortonjag 2007-08-03 11:36:55
QUOTE(nedson @ Aug 3 2007, 11:25 AM) [snapback]309738[/snapback]
I think you are somewhat over estimating the quality of this league. From what I've heard you guys are a good footballing team and I think you will do well this year and make more of a challenge next year.


We can play football if we are allowed to. If second division squads can suss us, (don't believe the stats-we STRUGGLED for much of last season), football alone will do us little good. We have a shower of kids who are individually OK but we lack cohesion and a sense of purpose.

Clyde capitalised on that in the Cup last season.

I imagine you'll be reading a lot of post match reports where we 'played attractive football' and got mugged again.
mortonjag 2007-08-03 11:41:40
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 3 2007, 11:34 AM) [snapback]309746[/snapback]
I beg to differ . True we had a chance just before their opener but Motherwell controlled the game . They just contained us after their second goal . To me , we were well outplayed by a far better team on the day .


Similar to the RCF last week!
mortonjag 2007-08-03 11:43:44
QUOTE(ian clinging @ Aug 3 2007, 11:41 AM) [snapback]309753[/snapback]
you're source obviously isn't very reliable!


If you're speaking to me Mr Clinging I performed the surgery.

I assure you there was no deliberate bias intended.
mortonjag 2007-08-03 11:48:59
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Aug 3 2007, 11:43 AM) [snapback]309755[/snapback]
So Mensing and Sutton would have attracted 1000 additional fans to Cappielow - get Real MJ.

I would have liked to see them both sign with us but there is no way on earth they would have paid for themselves through gate receipts.

On your rollercoaster comment - yes we should be on a roll, league two champions and heading into the1st, but it would appear that some fans want to derail the rollercoaster.

'GET REAL'-FFS the crowds have DROPPED by almost 1000 since the time when we seemed to be running away with the 'Second' and were banging in the goals.

That's not taking into account a potentially half decent attendance from quite a few visiting first division fans.

..and you're trying to accuse our FANS of being negative.

You've got the cart well and truly before the horse.
mortonjag 2007-08-03 14:28:06
Robinson


Shields Harding Greacen Walker


McAlister Stevenson Keenan McAnespie


Templeman Weatherson








mortonjag 2007-08-03 14:31:57
QUOTE(ian clinging @ Aug 3 2007, 11:59 AM) [snapback]309782[/snapback]
no sorry was referring to guy who started this thread


So easy to misjudge people-eh! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-03 14:43:36 [quote name='franco' date='Aug 3 2007, 01:04 PM' post='309875']
Good to see that arithmetic is still a useful tool! It's hardly the basis of a business plan though is it? "I'm going to increase revenue and decrease expenditure".

I'd love to believe that having a chief exec/director of football would be a good and financially sensible idea, but i still don't see any suggestions as to how the role would work and pay for itself.
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It worked pretty well with Hal Stewart!!

It isn't that difficult to balance the books franco-and I'm using 'Director of Football' as the term for anybody who could do efficiently what Rae clearly can't. What level of success can accompany being in the black is down to the skill of the operator.

I don't even go along with Greacen's 60k-the Ton's only a wee tiddler in business terms-the job could comfortably be handled part-time (as Hal did).

I'd respectfully suggest that this is just another example of 'disagree with Mortonjag automatically'-though at least you are polite!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-03 15:28:47
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Aug 3 2007, 11:49 AM) [snapback]309764[/snapback]
Bitter disappointment . Being positive and realistic will avoid us being dissapointed but spouting negative dross every day on a board that I know players etc read doesnt do anyone any good .. I believe the few on here that will get behind the boys but its a sad fact that the usual assholes will be on the players and managements back from the first half 2morrow



I hope I'm not being paranoid Scott-if that's directed at me, I must quickly point out that I consistently back the players to the hilt.

As has been pointed out several times in the last 24 hours, there's a huge difference between tearing a young squad to pieces indiscriminately, and legitimately drawing attention to crass incompetence.

Rae and JM are finally losing the credibility they never deserved in the first place. The voices crying in the wilderness are evolving in to a relatively harmonious choir.

mortonjag 2007-08-03 15:37:08
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 3 2007, 03:24 PM) [snapback]309974[/snapback]
The whole footballing world was different in the days of Hal Stewart. For a start it was pre Bosman and Morton balanced the books most seasons by selling players. What Hal Stewart was good at was replacing those sold reasonably adequately e.g. Joe Mason replacing Alan McGraw. The crowds were also much larger with Cappielow gates regularly breaking the 10,000 mark. It is completely unfair to compare making money in that era with now.

Secondly, the losses we need to balance are £200-250k per annum and thats a lot to get out of tinkering with margins/cost reductions, etc. There is no club in the first division even breaking even because the SPL have grabbed more and more of the pot for themselves over the years and TV/the media sees it as no more than a sideshow.

I don't believe that, without a significant new income stream being developed (and at this stage I don't know what), that it is possible to have a fulltime squad in the first division and make money. It might be possible if we were part time but that then would probably be at the expense of competitiveness = relegation and back to square one.

The only way for us to get into profit is to get promotion and the only way to get promotion is to buy it. The question is whether Douglas Rae wants to spend the money or not. I don't have any doubt that he has it.

Do you have the figures Tonsilitis?

BTW I agree in general with all you say-particularly the last paragraph.
mortonjag 2007-08-03 16:01:09
QUOTE(K P Low @ Aug 3 2007, 03:49 PM) [snapback]310018[/snapback]
You can't lose your £500, if you don't join you just won't be able to vote.
Loan notes are a minimum of £500 and each individual can only hold one.

I don't think that we should criticise the board members on here, if you are a member why don't you contact them directly to air your views, if not, why not join?
Jim McColl is a Director of Morton however I would imagine this is a choice that Mr Rae has made. If Jim were to start to create waves then what is there to stop Dougie just removing him, the Trust has no right to expect a place on the board, also why should Dougie even listen to the trust as they have a membership of around about 10% of the average home support, not exactly in a place where they can say they represent the views of the fans.

Again I am not a member of the trust board or spokesperson for the trust.



But there's a higher chance of your Taxi being ordered now











































by a Mr Rae.
mortonjag 2007-08-03 16:22:55
QUOTE(CJTon @ Aug 3 2007, 03:58 PM) [snapback]310038[/snapback]
We have some very decent players in our squad. I was disappointed that we haven't got someone with a bit of pace up front.....maybe Jimbo will do it in the meantime(!) But people are forgetting that we have some really good players in the squad.....remember half of them getting touted for higher division clubs last pre-season. These guys are all a year older and more experienced and know each other from a footballing sense.

A lot of other 1st division clubs have had a big turnover of staff and that isn't just players coming in but players leaving.

It has been quoted many times in the past that we were a first division team playing in the second division? How come that view is no longer valid. We have added certain players to augment our squad. There is a bit of confidence about Cappielow that the team will hold its own from what I can gather.

Just wish some of the guys on here could show a bit more confidence in what we have got and get excited about playing in a higher division than we have for years.

One thought - where would we be if the chairman pulled out of Morton tomorrow? Rome was not built in a day. The Ton have made progress in all areas even with a limited budget. No there is not a limitless pot of money to spend but at least with some decent budgeting the club are now again able to spend a bit of money....and MJ running a football club is not like running a multi-million pound business (as you keep telling us your relative does) just ask any football chairman. The group I work for is far bigger than GC and owns a football league team but certainly doesn't make any money from it.

Just try and look forward to tomorrow as the next chapter in the adventures of morton Football Club!!!!


The principles are the same in the running of every business-prudent housekeeping and efficient delegation.

I'm heartened to read an optimistic post couched in logical and half decent English CJ, but please don't buy into the idea that Shoogly knows where he's headed!
mortonjag 2007-08-03 16:26:09
QUOTE(OLDTON @ Aug 3 2007, 04:12 PM) [snapback]310064[/snapback]
sorry if this has already been talked about but why has he only signed a 6 month contract.

please dont say because he's crap.

to be one of hibs kids means he must be good.

TON FOR CHAMPIONSHIP

C'MON EH TON

Maybe it's an old head on young shoulders! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-03 16:32:26 Tomorrow we will hear and read more from our esteemed Chairman in one day, than in the last three months.

I'm gasping to know what he's going to tell us.

I refuse to make any predictions except that, as always, the entertainment value will be of its usual excellent standard.
mortonjag 2007-08-03 17:19:32
QUOTE(TonGa @ Aug 3 2007, 04:48 PM) [snapback]310120[/snapback]
HeHeHe mission accomplished!

Cretins are not worthless...the mentally disordered or infirm have as much value as you or I, now go and calm down having allowed said cretin to make you feel angry tongue.gif

That statement may be factual.
mortonjag 2007-08-03 17:50:57
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Aug 3 2007, 05:08 PM) [snapback]310133[/snapback]
A few times.

Now, go out and get some fresh air/a girlfriend, otherwise people will begin to think you're a sad wee b*****d with nothing better to do than spend 24 hours a day clogging up this messageboard with pish.

smile.gif

...and Mortonjag will feel threatened!
mortonjag 2007-08-03 17:55:46 I'm thinking of which costume to wear as I lead the chants of 'Dougie, Dougie gie's a wave'.

Does anybody know who hires out 'Grim Reaper' suits?
mortonjag 2007-08-03 17:58:45
QUOTE(HamCam @ Aug 3 2007, 05:55 PM) [snapback]310159[/snapback]
Who can we blame next for our failures in the transfer market ?

I lost a bet on the Sturm transfer as I was told a week before he signed that Dundee were interested. Allowing for the circumstances I thought this individual was on the wind-up. Sadly not as he knew exactly when Sturm signed and took great delight in phoning me to pass on the news. Lost wager was lunch yesterday in Dundee.

The only reason that Sturm signed with Dundee was because he and his agent preferred their set-up and believed they had a realistic chance of SPL football. They also have an agreement that he can move on and Dundee will not be difficult to deal with if a 'bigger' club comes in for him. Sturm believes an SPL or even an English club will come in for him when they are satisfied on his fitness and see how he performs week in week out.

Don't kid yourselves anything funny happened Sturm was only willing to sign for Morton as a last resort !

Last but not least assured that Sturm and the other top earners at Dundee are 'only' paid £600/week.

That comes as no surprise.
mortonjag 2007-08-03 18:02:49
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 3 2007, 06:01 PM) [snapback]310166[/snapback]
Here's one:

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mortonjag 2007-08-03 18:05:05
QUOTE(Kaney @ Aug 3 2007, 05:45 PM) [snapback]310151[/snapback]
FFS Lads its not like McInally aint trying..
What is he to do? We dont have the reputation of Barcelona or Man United... He's offering deals and theyre not being taken. We're not led by Bill Gates, we cant just find unlimited funds to make the fans happy with super amazing signings.. We cant just go out and sign yer Ronaldinho's and Ronaldo's.
If you cant hack the signings we make, or the fact we ARE NOT going to win every f*cking week, as much as you dont like it, then f*ck off and support the old firm or someone who can afford such great signings.

F*cking Wankers

NewTON and Stan Webster found him VERY trying.
mortonjag 2007-08-03 18:06:51
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 3 2007, 06:02 PM) [snapback]310167[/snapback]
Here's another one from same website:

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mortonjag 2007-08-03 18:23:13
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 3 2007, 06:10 PM) [snapback]310176[/snapback]
I don't doubt that we have the moral high ground in this but the bottom line is that the player still went to Dundee. The lessons should be learned by both DDFR and Jim McInally. Football is a dirty game and we lost our man mostly because these two have not played the game at this level before.

Douglas Rae [b]is no matter what you might read on this site, an astute businessman and he will have learned a lot this summer. I for one hope he remains fit and well enough to carry these lessons into next year because he is Morton through and through[/b].



Throw away comments like that sound wonderful. Facts are chiels that winna ding.

What is your benchmark for astuteness-he's been successful in keeping a wee sweetie factory profitable in a very competitive marketplace-was that down to astuteness, luck, sheer pig headed determination, or possibly a combination of all three?

'He will have learned a lot this summer'-three bloody months Tonsilitis-he's had the club for five years-the learning curve's not very steep-is it?

He is 'Morton through and through'-well 'whoopy f***in' doo'-so 'Morton through and through' that the self centred old gentleman gives ne'er a f*ck about one solitary Morton fan's opinions except his own.

I've met Shoogly once-he's not evil-he has a fetching smile-there's still something of the 'wee boy' about him. Is that the problem? Is there still time for him to grow up?
mortonjag 2007-08-03 18:48:42
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 3 2007, 06:14 PM) [snapback]310181[/snapback]
But usually he makes a blunder, especially in the programme notes. unsure.gif



'Where are you Jay' as he peers over the top of Shields' head.
mortonjag 2007-08-03 18:56:15
QUOTE(Lily @ Aug 3 2007, 06:11 PM) [snapback]310178[/snapback]
When Sue Barker and Cliff went together Sue was not married at the time. Sue is married now but not when she and Cliff went together.

...ah-but did they---you know--??


Marriage is an institution etc., etc.,!!!
mortonjag 2007-08-03 19:01:38
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 3 2007, 01:29 PM) [snapback]309892[/snapback]
Think I will need to go and see about a pair of specs at some point although knida dreading the £200+ that people seem to pay any time they walk into an opticians!

Anyone know where the best places to go in Greenock or Glasgow would be?


And here was me thinking you were just a wean who knows f*ck all about football!
mortonjag 2007-08-03 19:10:44
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 3 2007, 07:02 PM) [snapback]310200[/snapback]
Why not be accurate and call them economic migrants?

This from the Great-grandson of an economic migrant. wink.gif



'Opportunistic economic migrants'? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-03 19:14:53
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 3 2007, 06:59 PM) [snapback]310197[/snapback]
Don't forget we did get the scarifier, I hear rave reviews, apparently covered every blade of grass on its few outings during pre season. One for the future maybe. wink.gif

It was a bloody midfield SCARIFIER we were promised!
mortonjag 2007-08-03 19:18:57
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 3 2007, 07:17 PM) [snapback]310212[/snapback]
You really do just post for the sake of posting.

Wonder if you'll reach the 100,000 post mark by the time you finally get your way and McInally leaves and Dougie retires.

You utterly sad b@stard with nothing else in your life but to post on an internet forum.

wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-04 05:20:36
QUOTE(franco @ Aug 3 2007, 03:35 PM) [snapback]310002[/snapback]
i haven't once disagreed with you here! I'm neutral until i see a strong argument one way or another. Dundee seem to think it is a worthwhile job, while Partick Thistle think it doesn't make economic sense.

The £60K figure was yours from the last time we debated this; i suggested then that i would happily do it part time for half the money armed with all the improvement suggestions that this board could muster, but i'm still waiting.

Where i am challenging you, though, is that it is dead easy to spend other people's money when you don't have any responsibility for it. I genuinely thought you may have some answers, but i'm yet to see them. But then, the NHS isn't a great place to learn about financial management, I guess! (that's just a wee joke by the way, not a serious dig).


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The word mismanagement springs to mind!

The 'person' I'm talking about is directly responsible for an annual budget of £300 million.

He is a lifelong Ton supporter-more passionate than me, but more patient too!
mortonjag 2007-08-04 05:22:04
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 3 2007, 11:02 PM) [snapback]310302[/snapback]
aha ahaha ahahahaha ahahahahahaha ahahahahahahahahahah


rolleyes.gif

what's yer poison?
mortonjag 2007-08-04 05:28:18
QUOTE(Oozie @ Aug 3 2007, 11:13 PM) [snapback]310308[/snapback]
I would never boo DR as he has Morton in his blood and if was not for him we would not be where we are today.
I was more disappointed than most after Dougie telling us we were after Sturm and Gowza but failed.
I've calmed down a little now, but I am sure dougie is hurting too with the outcome of both saga's.
The Sturm thing should have been dealt with better as we knew other clubs were sniffing around him.
But to boo the guy before a baw is kicked off in the new season is madness.

Hopefully we may still get Gowza at some point and we'll get a decent striker before the transfer window closes or at the new year.

Dougie knows we are hurting, and hopefully he'll be on here to give us news that he has signed a great striker. Might not be imminent, but good things come to people that wait.

I’m looking forward to wee Boaby getting in amongst it when he’s 100% !!!
Templeman, Templeman, Templeman !!!

KTF guys - we are all in this together.

Oh I'm sure he cried himself to sleep last night over it.
mortonjag 2007-08-04 05:30:51
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 4 2007, 12:52 AM) [snapback]310348[/snapback]
Well with the man's track record over the last year or so I would have thought a change of tact would have been in order .
Again its our fault this happens . nHe targetted this forum , yet again , even some of our posters who stood by Dougie before that have changed their views . It was his own statement by naming players we had not signed and telling supporters everything was in hand .
He then issued a war cry to buy season tickets .
He is now casting the club as the victims in the failure to sign Sturm . It was hardly Maurice Johnston FFS .
The mindless pursuit of McGowan when the price was so ridiculiosly high should have warned us off weeks earlier .
Then we still have a poster willing to pay the club expenses to take players from Australia but JM is too busy to contact the head of the Academy that produced Scott McDonald .
The descent is not of my or anyone else who posts on heres fault .
Pay your money and shut your face is that what you want .
We all have a right to state what if anything we feel isin't right about the club . Perhaps the biggest concern is that the lady is not for turning .

The actress refuses to be upstaged! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-04 05:37:45
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Aug 3 2007, 11:07 PM) [snapback]310304[/snapback]
re; negativity

having attended the last 2 Valarenga and 1 Lyn oslo games I have to say how impressed I am at how their fans get behind them.

the standard isn't great but the fans keep singing and singing and last night in the UEFA cup against Tallin the fans drove the team to the next round.

the no12 kit has been retired for the fans at that club.

proof to me that negativity gets you no where, drives away neutrals and basically kicks the confidence out of the team.

for all the negative b*****ds on here take a long hard look at yourself and get a grip.

the season hasnt started yet.

roll on tomorrow, and regardless of the score I will still SUPPORT Morton.



WHAT exactly are you trying to say?

I'm arguably the most 'negative' poster on here-I still support Morton passionately, and give the boys on the park 100% in EVERY game-unlike many who have demonstrated palpable negativity by booing or staying away.

If 'negativity' on a forum that's designed to generate healthy controversy is 'kicking the confidence' out of anybody-I'd suggest it's simply because the truth hurts.
mortonjag 2007-08-04 05:45:34
Let's get behind the team and will them on to victory
mortonjag 2007-08-04 06:03:43 Are we talking about asylum seekers, immigrants, illegal immigrants, folk on holiday from Pakistan for 25 years or what?

As far as I know asylum seekers are not allowed employment.

Loyal Lass has demonstrated that many legitimate immigrants are negotiating their own prices in the labour force-that's opportunistic economic immigration-they are breaking no rules.

The thread was started because a governmental policy may possibly be discriminating against native Scots.

I'm all for diversity of culture when it's combined with mutual tolerance and a genuine contribution to our society.

Religion-NOW THAT'S DIFFERENT
mortonjag 2007-08-04 06:07:39
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 4 2007, 01:31 AM) [snapback]310371[/snapback]
I think everyone who posted on this thread before me is probably a 3.14.

9.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999
mortonjag 2007-08-04 07:23:09
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Aug 4 2007, 06:55 AM) [snapback]310398[/snapback]
In the famous words of Buzz Lightyear ................................................ tongue.gif

-> 00 + > to you too ya cheeky baa's turd! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-04 07:33:36
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Aug 4 2007, 07:10 AM) [snapback]310399[/snapback]
At the earliest opportunity can one of you geeks change the banner to reflect our return to hoops (or what passes for them these days). The killie strip still gets on my ample tits smile.gif



The mind boggles-heard a funny story yesterday. One of my partner's workmates (who is rather generously endowed) is off on an archeological dig this weekend.

For some reason-don't ask me what-they are not allowed to wear bra's with any wiring.

Not wanting to let herself down, she went into M & S in Glasgow and asked for advice. At first they couldn't help, but then an asistant said-'would you consider a 'POST SURGICAL BRA'.

Apparently they are now MARKETING monster booby traps for women who've just had silicone breast implants. She found the experience singularly uplifting, and will now wield her little trowel with confidence!
mortonjag 2007-08-05 06:46:37 The boys played well. I thoroughly enjoyed my afternoon.
mortonjag 2007-08-05 06:48:05 I'm sure we'll play very well-we can win this one.
mortonjag 2007-08-05 07:08:32 To be frank I thought that although the programme was improved (with a lovely mug shot of poor Davie McGurn on the front) it's still too amateurish in parts. Arthur always contributes his excellent piece, but as usual Mr Rae does his two page splurge. Does ANYBODY, apart from me, read that after the first two paragraphs?

I just love this example of his stilted English-

'Today we look forward to welcoming a group of parachutists who will descend upon the centre circle at around 2.30 p.m. carrying with them the Second Division flag which they are going to present to me in the centre circle.'


Shoogly-that was the f*ckin' ARMY pal-that was a precision exercise practised hundreds of times before and made to look easier than nickin' a Fudgy Wudgy oot yer hip pocket.

'Group of parachutists who will descend'---Aye-right!!! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-05 07:17:58 We have 'the same squad-a group of young naive and inexperienced players who can only play one way and will have to learn quickly'.

Was that stating the obvious-or WHAT Jim?

And your point is...... rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-05 07:25:18 VikingTON picked up on that earlier i think. JM probably has one eye on Tuesday night.




You're giving JM too much credit i think unsure.gif[/quote]




Are you suggesting our manager is totally blind? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-05 07:43:06 If it's the same team picture which appeared in yesterday's match programme, we could start a wee thread entitled, 'What did Bobby Linn just say'?

Look at the expressions on his face and the ones on either side!

I'll start off with


'Did Clark jist fart AGAIN'?.
mortonjag 2007-08-05 07:55:50
QUOTE(davidh1874 @ Aug 5 2007, 01:53 AM) [snapback]310882[/snapback]
I've just installed a new hard drive and, thus, lost all the stuff that was stored on my old one including my very attractive picture of Elisha Cuthbert adorned with a morton top for my wallpaper. I've tried mortonbabes.com with no avail. Can't remember where i got it.

Any assistance in locating Elisha, or any other fine filly that takes your fancy, with a morton top on would be mucho appreciato.

Danke!

Eleanor won the Derby in 1801-nearest name I can find.

Maybe 'phone may Hughes? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-05 08:08:55 If Alexander agreed to Mileson's 'friendly' suggestion that he should 'take a break' when there was nothing 'Medically' wrong with him, and willingly AGREED, he's obviously mentally ill! laugh.gif

Pony Tail-the smiling silent assassin and latter day 'Mr Nice Guy' didn't get where he is in business by making lots of friends.

Constructive dismissal is clearly being pursued, and he'll get a whacking pay off to avoid the Tribunal, and ensuing publicity.

Anyway 0 - 4 sounds just about right for LIVING THE DREAM!

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mortonjag 2007-08-05 08:11:43 Crawford Rae does not drive a Reliant Robin and Bob Geldof is 55 today.
mortonjag 2007-08-05 08:15:40 It's very naughty when the OF sing their wee mindless songs-if the clubs start to suffer financially it will change.

Morton fans are never naughty BTW.
mortonjag 2007-08-05 08:19:50
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 5 2007, 07:51 AM) [snapback]310916[/snapback]
We, of course, can win... but it's the CIS cup which we have an awful record in!



Away with your negativity-we will do well-possibly win.

Next Saturday is when the chickens may come home to roost.
mortonjag 2007-08-05 08:23:09
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 5 2007, 08:17 AM) [snapback]310923[/snapback]
Surely you meant quiet?
About 250-300. In good voice singing the Clyde song " The wheels on your house go round and round."



round and round,
mortonjag 2007-08-05 08:24:08
QUOTE(tontastic @ Aug 5 2007, 01:00 AM) [snapback]310861[/snapback]
Pictures from Saturday's home match vs Clyde are now uploading to the Tontastic web site at http://www.tontastic.com. Unfortunately one of my memory cards appears to have died, so i lost a lot of pictures from the second half.

Our thoughts go out to you at this sad time.
mortonjag 2007-08-05 08:25:17
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Aug 5 2007, 01:38 AM) [snapback]310879[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDDavie's rolling a biggie!
mortonjag 2007-08-05 10:03:56
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 5 2007, 09:50 AM) [snapback]310945[/snapback]
It'll take more than 3 points & a good performance to shut up the McInally & Rae haters. sad.gif
See what i mean ? sad.gif
ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

Drunk ? ohmy.gif



It's 10.03 on my computer!

The boys played well.

I THOROUGHLY enjoyed my afternoon.
mortonjag 2007-08-05 10:07:31
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 5 2007, 09:38 AM) [snapback]310939[/snapback]
I chinned Susan yesterday and ended up getting one.

When are you purchasing your season ticket book?
mortonjag 2007-08-05 10:10:41
QUOTE(TonGa @ Aug 5 2007, 09:45 AM) [snapback]310942[/snapback]
I did not...! laugh.gif

TonGa has a postage stamp sized banana.
mortonjag 2007-08-05 10:15:02
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 5 2007, 10:11 AM) [snapback]310957[/snapback]
Jesus Mick, stop steeping your heid in that bucket and get with the program.

Celtic fans are BETTER at containing this s***e at home, but away from home, as in their last league game I tuned in to on Setanta last year, all the old favourites were there - Boys Of The Old Brigade, Sean South and Fields Of Athenry (resplendent with IRA/Sinn Fein chants) and they have even managed to turn Willie Maley into a sectarian song by adding "and the IRA" to the end of line which goes "And he gave us James McGrory and Paul McStay".

BTW, I just googled for Willie Maley on Youtube and that chant is evident at both home and away games.

Also, are you forgetting the great video of the Black Cat where celtic supporters danced in the street (up on Youtube as well - search Greenock and Boruc) singing "the Holy goalie"........words I believe are "Oh, Artur Boruc, the holy goalie, he hates the huns, he blessed himself at Ibrox and the Huns ent aff their nut, he's aff his f***ing rocker and he sings God Bless The Pope, oh Artur Boruc the holy goalie" - clearly a football song that one.

Just to add for clarity - the other side are as reprehensible with their whole wading through f鮩an Blood routine.

But trust me mate, there's no moral high ground for either side of the bigot brothers.

Only when the SFA/UEFA start deducting points will anything be done and the silent majority (if it exists) will exact the revenge on the offenders. I won't hold my breath though.

TonInDublin

Jesus is correct-as always!
mortonjag 2007-08-05 11:08:43
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 5 2007, 10:17 AM) [snapback]310960[/snapback]
Not sure if that was sarcasm or not. Just my tuppence worth, no more no less.

And for what it's worth I'm not always right, I remember being wrong once - 1978 I think it was ! tongue.gif

TonInDublin

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mortonjag 2007-08-05 11:11:33
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Aug 5 2007, 10:23 AM) [snapback]310962[/snapback]
These nutters are most likely banned from Home Games then, so why slate the club?

I haven't heard people sing the stupid sectarian parts of Willie Maley for at least three years, and the same goes with Fields.
If it's at a home game then it's a minority singing it, or it's an old home game.
Haven't heard that one at a home game, it's still far off "We're up to our knees in *potential ethnic slur removed* blood".
That's right aye, we're always getting fines from UEFA and oh wait... huh.gif

I'm not trying to take a moral highground, I'm just saying that these fools singing about wading in Catholic blood despite the fact that it causes serious damage to their club has nothing to do with us.

If Celtic fans had a particular chant that we were urged not to sing for the good of our club, there's no doubt in my mind that we'd comply. At home games for certain, away games as you said, there's more nutters.

You'd never see us doing anything as offensive as making Nazi Salutes either...


OH DEAR-FOR ONCE HE WAS BEING SERIOUS-personally I blame that on Kafflick skools! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-05 11:12:53
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 5 2007, 10:21 AM) [snapback]310961[/snapback]
Nah, he went along to New Douglas Park to see Hamilton beat Dunfermline.

As per pre-arranged plan.
mortonjag 2007-08-05 11:15:45
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 5 2007, 10:11 AM) [snapback]310958[/snapback]
They've just realised Ryan Russell f***ed off to Dumbarton with the lighter.


...and we've no match striker!
mortonjag 2007-08-05 11:24:26
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 4 2007, 11:12 AM) [snapback]310492[/snapback]
If you know as much about business as you claim, you will know that every successful businessman, amongst other qualities, has an ego, determination, astuteness and some luck. Douglas Rae is no different but if you want another example of a successful businessman with those qualities, have a look at Alan Sugar. And, incidentally, Golden Casket is more than 'a wee sweetie factory'. It has an eight figure turnover, makes seven figure profits (after absorbing Morton's losses) and has millions in cash reserves. All this has been achieved in a manufacturing environment - far tougher to run than any service industry - and in a highly competitive market sector dominated by international players.

In my opinion it taints and lessens some of the valid points you make when you dismiss what DDFR has achieved in business as running 'a wee sweetie factory'.

My point about learning this summer is that the board have been promoted to a higher league as well as the team and they are dealing for the first time in the first division transfer market. That is different in my view, from the lower leagues. The players are mostly fulltime. Many off them are ex SPL or similar leagues and have egos themselves that have to be massaged and the agents are altogether more slick. It is different from what they knew in the second division and they will have learned.

As for DDFR being a Morton supporter, would you prefer he was'nt?

The management are on a hiding to nothing here. If they tell the fans that they are after this player or that and then fail to get him, they get castigated. Some posters on here even seem to think that its some plot to fool the fans into thinking we are after better players than the reality - what crap!

If they play their cards close to their chest, people like you MJ start going on about lack of communication with the fans. Its a no win situation until they actually land some players.

Finally, I agree that the close season has gone very badly but I put that down partly to being over ambitious in terms of who we could realistically sign and partly to sheer bad luck. I don't really hold either against DDFR or Jim McInally provided the lessons are learned.

Shoogly runs a wee sweetie factory, and you've admitted he f*cked up over the closed season.

No harm in being a sycophant I suppose! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-05 11:29:59
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 5 2007, 11:12 AM) [snapback]310978[/snapback]
Whit the f*** was Weatherson doing pictured in a kilt with saltire sporran ? !! mad.gif
Only kiddin Peter, you looked very smart tongue.gif

You must LOVE the Buchanans' toffee ad. on the back page-I shed tears each time I read it.

Those BRAVE confectioners and their wee sweetie factories trying to rip off the tax man.

Plus ca change. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-05 11:44:52
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 5 2007, 11:36 AM) [snapback]310994[/snapback]
Thank you for that well thought out reply!

No probs-it was mainly for the benefit of a previous poster-I don't think you're a sycophant-just an enigma-so logical and phlegmatic in your profession I'm sure, yet so blinkered about the Shoogly Show's global dimensions.
mortonjag 2007-08-05 11:49:47
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Aug 5 2007, 11:15 AM) [snapback]310980[/snapback]
I should know better by now laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2007-08-05 11:53:13
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Aug 4 2007, 07:49 AM) [snapback]310402[/snapback]
Foundationwear of all descriptions gives me the horn. Should I be worried unsure.gif

..only if it's got a 'Millions' logo on it.
mortonjag 2007-08-05 15:21:47
QUOTE(jpmil @ Aug 5 2007, 11:07 AM) [snapback]310975[/snapback]
Excellent post which covered most points but will, no doubt, have (you know who) crying "sychophant."

He's on my blocked list so I don't have to read his reply.....this blocking is wonderful I've been enjoying the site much more since I put it in place.

19 Mar 2007 ----quote from jpmil after the away game at Stirling
Read TopicNo Apology
McInally said "After taking the lead, we were put under the cosh a wee bit in the second half but if anything I thought we were going to pick them off, which really we should have done really. But I felt that I had to take off a couple of players I wouldn't have done normally. The cards were being dished out and I feared that Sanny could have been sent off, just because of the way he plays the game.
It was a catch 22 situation and it backfired on us. It was a bitter blow."
Later in the interview he continues "This, I suppose is the down side of of having a younger squad. In the second half we could have done with an older head to put their foot on the ball and he wasn't there."

If one accepts that the removal of Sanny was to protect him from a red card O.K. but if the change of players was something which "I felt I had to take off a couple of players I wouldn't have done normally" the statement must come as a great shock to Jamie Stevenson to whom being on the park for 90 minutes is a novelty.
I also had a wry smile that "I "decided but it backfired on" US."
Also "an older head .......who wasn't there." I wonder who's to blame for that?
It would seem that we have a man who cannot or will not put his hand up to making errors of judgement.
Unfortunately as a consequence we just have to wait and continue biting our already short nails.



It seems it's OK for some to criticise- is it just Rae's arse he's up?
mortonjag 2007-08-05 15:24:11
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Aug 5 2007, 01:35 PM) [snapback]311091[/snapback]
No bungs involved here.. mad.gif we were shat on by the player and his agent(s). Forget the guy, lets just get on with the season at hand, and see what other signings may be on the horizon.....f***...bungs...Simon Donnelly bung a few seasons ago? who said? any c*** involved in bungs should be reported immedietaly...

The way Spoonsy took his goal yesterday was reminiscent of a striker.
mortonjag 2007-08-05 15:31:00 Yesterday we scored three and conceded three-two.

Their goalkeeper had two or three excellent saves which has the Bully Wee fans drooling on P & B-and we're still going to target a STRIKER? unsure.gif


mortonjag 2007-08-05 15:36:34
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 5 2007, 11:55 AM) [snapback]311002[/snapback]
You wonder how much the players were coerced into this statement.

I didn't see any Morton players going in a huff at the time but a Clyde player had to be escorted from the field by a policeman due to his angry comments and motions.

I don't suppose there was any mention of that in the papers this morning huh.gif


I thought their manager was crapping it near the end too.
mortonjag 2007-08-05 15:47:46 The programme's worth an extra 50p and nobody's forced to buy one.

Maybe the folk who run the catering are simply trying to break even-who has actually raised the prices there-again you don't exactly starve at a football match.

Admission prices for 90+ minutes of live entertainment are VERY good value by any standards, and yesterday I found the entertainment excellent too.
mortonjag 2007-08-05 15:53:18
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 5 2007, 02:28 PM) [snapback]311145[/snapback]
I posted roughly this on P & B - Anyone think it could fly?

As an alternative, why don't the league put their heads together and come up with their own online service. Most clubs are already filming their matches and showing goals and main highlights. Why not launch a sort of football first website showing highlights of at least the first division and maybe the lower leagues if there was enough demand. Five matches with 10 mins each plus say 10 mins chat and adverts - its only an hour a week.

This could be a subscription site and the take shared by dividing say 2/3rds of the pot equally and the rest pro rata to the subscribers club allegiences.

I don't know what it would cost to set up, but maybe Irn Bru would sponsor it in exchange for advertising and fans could contribute either say £5 a month through the season or get a season ticket for a bit less.

There were 14/15000 people at the games yesterday. If 10% of them subscribed that would bring in about £75,000 over a season. Add in sponsorship and advertising say another £50k and thats surely more than enough to cover the costs, especially as the clubs are already doing the filming - its only a case of putting it together.

I don't know about you guys, but I would buy into that!


Excellent idea, but what would the SPL think of the erosion of their captive audience.

F*ck them-Barrs have always been innovative-this could be a winner. The 'first' is the most competitive league in Scottish football-we might even win over a fair few floating fans.
mortonjag 2007-08-05 16:20:39 Last year cup games had to be regarded as a bonus-there was huge pressure on us to win the league.

Now it's different-the CIS cup's an excellent chance to generate some half decent income and we should grasp that.

From the players' point of view, they can only be 'up' for this game.

Financially a replay would be a superb result and that's what I confidently predict.

mortonjag 2007-08-05 16:27:20 I reckon every player gave 100% yesterday-I was delighted in particular to see Alex Walker and Kev Finlayson look pretty comfortable, despite having been left out in the cold for much of last season.

Our club has its strengths and weaknesses like any other-THE PLAYERS ARE NOT TO BLAME for the strength of the squad.
mortonjag 2007-08-05 16:34:13
QUOTE(GMC @ Aug 5 2007, 01:37 PM) [snapback]311093[/snapback]
After reading Mick Galloway's bit in the Sunday Mail, Rowan sounds an even bigger c*** than you'd think.


You've got to remember that Galloway is still an employee of Mr Mileson-two sides to every story, and I reckon that behind the scenes this ones as dirty as the next.
mortonjag 2007-08-05 16:37:17
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 5 2007, 02:23 PM) [snapback]311144[/snapback]
Definate - 8.5 wink.gif

I don't know whether 10 is best or worst so I'm safe to award you that Weegie for living within three miles of me! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-05 16:41:38
QUOTE(lush @ Aug 5 2007, 01:00 PM) [snapback]311035[/snapback]
Whats religious about that? Talking about the skunks lack of hygiene and parentage? blink.gif

Mirrin was a good Catholic-I reckon the Ton fans are just pseudo Huns! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-05 16:46:29
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Aug 5 2007, 01:13 PM) [snapback]311057[/snapback]
I'm not on the wind up, I go to Celtic games and I go to Morton games aswell. I know a few others on here who're the same.


Mick-I could swear you admitted the very opposite not so very long ago.

Has it got such a habit that you no longer know the difference.

When you commented earlier about the Tims having learned a lesson better than their Hun counterparts I genuinely thought you were poking fun at the OF despite being a Celtic fan.

Anyway, I see Strachan was being his usual obnoxious self after today's draw! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-05 16:55:31
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Aug 5 2007, 03:54 PM) [snapback]311166[/snapback]
I think i saw a chinese looking guy taking that dog into the Pak Lee last night.

The Chow Chow is the favourite Chinese breed. They are wokked regularly in Bejing, after which their owners settle down to a hearty meal.
mortonjag 2007-08-05 17:11:30
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 5 2007, 04:57 PM) [snapback]311193[/snapback]
You wouldn't play him at centre half so why play a player with no real pace up alone , abit one dimensional


Sanny OBVIOUSLY needs a 'goalscorer' laugh.gif playing off him Chris-I'd settle for you know who, and wee Bobby may yet come good. Who knows-Brian Graham may suddenly surprise us-he vaguely reminds me of a fresh faced Joe Jordan (who was crap with us).
mortonjag 2007-08-05 17:16:49 Fantastic-a superb display of professionalism in all aspects!

Thank you.
mortonjag 2007-08-05 17:20:41
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Aug 5 2007, 04:32 PM) [snapback]311182[/snapback]
I disagree entirely Dom Dom, you only shut the game down if you're under pressure. We weren't and it was more important to keep posession at that stage than defend uneccessarily. It nearly cost us had it not been for a questionable linesman's decision.
I must say I was surprised by the substitution-fair enough we ultimately won the game, but we had been testing Clyde, and another goal would have sealed it for us.

Robinson had very little to do throughout--'fraid I don't understand it.
mortonjag 2007-08-05 17:30:00
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 5 2007, 05:13 PM) [snapback]311200[/snapback]
Templeman anyone? unsure.gif
Lets be clear - if Morton had 100k they would offer 100k for McGowan.
Our upper limit ought to be 50k, but I'm not the chairman.



It's not often I support Shoogly, but his purchase of Sanny, at the price, at the time, didn't get too much criticism, and the big man's certainly repaid some of it after finding it so hard to settle in-LIKE ALL THE OTHER SIGNINGS.

I still fail to understand why with at least 65k to spend, the squad has still not gained another experienced player.

The boys did well yesterday-KM added a new dimension, but he can't do it all on his own week in, week out.




mortonjag 2007-08-05 17:34:41
QUOTE(para @ Aug 5 2007, 05:17 PM) [snapback]311204[/snapback]
Dedicated to mr stevenson i assume

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C'mon he's only a young lad-he was obviously quoting somebody who was miffed with Shoogly for allowing the display so soon before kick off. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-05 17:39:21
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 5 2007, 05:20 PM) [snapback]311206[/snapback]
No replays. tongue.gif
Prediction is null and void. tongue.gif

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s***-I'm going to be home very late then.

WE WILL WIN!
mortonjag 2007-08-05 17:46:44
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 5 2007, 05:37 PM) [snapback]311214[/snapback]
The price tag though did warrant criticism.
Brechin did then what Celtic are doing now - squeezing every penny for their player to leave.
We shouldn't be spending that amount of money on a single player, when the rest of the squad still requires work.


Bear in mind HOW close we came to promotion that season-sure- it was a gamble by a man whose astuteness elsewhere was no guarantee of a football brain, but it COULD have been so different if Sanny had lived up to expectation then.

Financially that scenario would have been money well spent IMO.
mortonjag 2007-08-05 17:49:10
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 5 2007, 05:42 PM) [snapback]311219[/snapback]
I thought both our front men put in a good shift. Both were substituted, probably because they were knackered.


Was that because they didn't warm up properly? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-05 17:58:14
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Aug 5 2007, 05:04 PM) [snapback]311194[/snapback]
The man is and always will be a legend in my eyes

His comments about us where out of order but In my opinion he had a point

But yes you don’t slag off the other team what ever happened to sportsmanship and all that s***e.

The man is not well and it sounds as if he has not got rid of the demands he had at QOS. His wife left him and the family brocks up over the alleged “illnessâ€

Maybe some are more heartless than me but I wouldn’t wish that on my worst enemy well h**** s**** maybe.

I hope it all works out for him

Folk don't deliberately make complete arses of themselves in public-Rowan clearly has problems.

Mileson's fairy tale was-as far as the Scottish Cup final -money driven-I believe my Monkey could have done the actual Manager's job quite well.

As you say-hope he gets better soon, and a big dollop of dosh from Pony Tail, as his managerial career is undoubtedly well and truly f*cked now.
mortonjag 2007-08-05 18:00:22
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 5 2007, 05:19 PM) [snapback]311205[/snapback]
A chow chow is like a bear - how would it fit in a wok? rolleyes.gif


I'd love to put some Bears in a BIG ORANGE WOK.
mortonjag 2007-08-05 18:04:30
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 5 2007, 05:48 PM) [snapback]311221[/snapback]
Aye, but realistically, we should have been able to sign a Templeman-esque player for a far lower price.
No one is denying it was worth a gamble, but must we put half our posessions on it?




In hindsight, I totally agree-I'm frankly astonished that 65k was offered for Gowza-was that just a publicity stunt?

JM said he'd have given 50k at most.

Did they BOTH know all along they'd no chance?
mortonjag 2007-08-06 05:44:42
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 5 2007, 06:34 PM) [snapback]311240[/snapback]
Realistically I expect Dundee to win because:

1) Its their first competitive home game of the season
2) We are not great on the road
3) they have, at least on paper, a stronger squad

Having said that, I don't think there is so much between the teams that we could'nt sneak a result. It will rely on Harding and Greacen. If they have a Kilmarnock night, no problem. If they play like Saturday, goodnight Vienna.

Potentially we are the surprise package in this division. We are written off because we are newly promoted and no one knows our players. They could get a shock!

Realistically I expect us to win because we beat Clyde and they beat Celtic quite recently in the Cup.

Actually I think we should play a weakened team to avoid injuries for Saturday.

I'd definitely put Deano on as Captain though-10mgs of diazepam-and he's my Cup Tie Joan of Arc.
mortonjag 2007-08-06 05:51:38
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 28 2007, 11:03 AM) [snapback]305242[/snapback]
Clyde appoint Gary Bollan as head of youth development.
Swansea recall Chris Jones from Hamilton, Accies also release Nathan Taylor.

HMM dry.gif

So some clubs still believe in this.
mortonjag 2007-08-06 05:54:21 It's usually the Goalie who organises the defence. Young Robinson's just in the door-give him a chance.
mortonjag 2007-08-06 05:59:38
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Aug 5 2007, 07:42 PM) [snapback]311270[/snapback]
One of our goals came from a corner, one from a freekick and one from a penalty.
We need a clinical finisher to take the chances we create in open play, we won't be able to rely on set pieces all season.




I have this HORRIBLE feeling we have a new definition for 'striker'.


SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A CLINICAL FINISHER

mortonjag 2007-08-06 06:02:53
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Aug 6 2007, 12:28 AM) [snapback]311364[/snapback]
I think, on yesterdays showing, that we might just have found our midfield organiser in McAnespie. I was astonished when he was moved out wide and McAllister put in the middle - strange one indeed. Thought Kieran's workrate, tackling and range of passing was excellent, and he might be just what we needed in there.

Think we need a centre half so we can get Greacen out the team - the longer he stays in there the more sloppy goals we'll lose. He miss-times headers and tackles, gets caught out of position and his distribution is rotten. And i also thought Walker was poor yesterday, and i have the impression he wont get better in there. We need McGregor in there as the middle centre back, the organiser, and a replacement found for Greacen should be as much of a priority as a new striker IMO



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mortonjag 2007-08-06 06:05:14
QUOTE(shullnotton @ Aug 6 2007, 01:21 AM) [snapback]311368[/snapback]
No it is not !!
It's a total rip off and i cannae be bothered telling you why. It's oan another thread somewhere. smile.gif


Eponymous stuff.
mortonjag 2007-08-06 06:09:28
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 5 2007, 08:14 PM) [snapback]311281[/snapback]
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I regard this message board as a private chat room! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-06 06:15:49
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 5 2007, 01:30 PM) [snapback]311087[/snapback]
Unlucky Lush, not to worry - I'll raise an extra glass for you !
Can taste it already - luvverly !

I stayed in on Friday night and I had my kids last night so the first one will be very sweet indeed.

Three pubs, and here they are - they'll be getting holly today !!!!

From left to right and down ........ Manzors, Kennys (well it's called Keoghs and was called The Corner house but it's Kennys) and then Jones's.
TonInDublin

Alcohol - Safe & Healthy Drinking
Alcohol is widely accepted in society and is associated with socialising, relaxing and pleasure. 90% of the adult population in Britain drink and in the majority it does not cause any problems.

By Dr Mehta Consultant Psychiatrist in the Treatment of Addictions & Eating Disorders.
Riverdale Grange Clinic, Sheffield

Alcohol serves various functions, simply as a drink when thirsty, as an accompaniment to a meal, to help socialise and celebrate, to show hospitality and as a perceived aid to relaxation.

OK, some of us like a tipple – but what damage are we doing to ourselves?

Drinking in moderation also confers health benefits, such as lowering the risk from coronary heart disease (CHD) and ischaemic stroke. The cardioprotective effect applies across the age range but is seen mainly at ages over 40, where the incidence of CHD is highest.

The following drinking patterns are identified in the community based upon the number of units consumed. In the UK, a unit is defined as 8g of pure alcohol and this is equivalent to:

* a half pint of ordinary strength beer
* 25ml (a small glass) of wine (at 9 per cent strength)
* One measure of spirits.

These patterns include: -

* Binge: drinking over twice the daily guidelines in one day (6+ for women/8+ for men)
* Low to moderate drinking: drinking up to 14/21units weekly.
* Heavy to moderate drinking: drinking between 14/21 and 35/50 units in a week
* Very heavy: drinking 35/50+ units in a week;
* Chronic: sustained drinking which is causing or likely to lead to risk of harm.

Low to moderate drinking varies in men and women. In men it is defined as no more than 3 units in a day and in women no more than 2 units in a day.

Advice on sensible drinking includes having 2-3 alcohol free days per week, not using alcohol to solve your problems or to promote sleep. Abstaining from alcohol under certain conditions for example when pregnant or considering pregnancy, when taking medication that interacts with alcohol, in the presence of certain medical conditions e.g ulcer, liver disease, epilepsy etc, if alcohol dependent or if you are driving.

If alcohol is consumed within the weekly limits for men and women, and in a sensible manner, it rarely leads to problematic drinking and/or dependence.



Always here to help! wub.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-06 06:20:18
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Aug 5 2007, 10:01 PM) [snapback]311307[/snapback]
Gordi . If you call the council tomorrow on 714200, (0845-1645) inform them the dog is missing. There is a book in our office that records all lost/missing dogs so if someone does find it we can let you know.

Over the weekend, any found dogs could be taken to the Police station, on Monday-Friday it will be taken to the pound in Cardonald.

Hope that helps.


Ever had a call from a Charles Young?
mortonjag 2007-08-06 06:27:41
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Aug 5 2007, 11:43 PM) [snapback]311358[/snapback]
http://www.inverclydenow.com/news-detail2.asp?ID=501

"Jay Shields stiffened us up when we needed it"
I suppose he's the perfect height for that sort of service.



Another example of stereotyping M4RKO

Arguably the hardest wee man I ever saw play for us was Bobby Collins-he was definitely no taller than Shields, had umpteen caps, and RAN the boilerhouse.

When Bobby went in for a tackle, as often as not, much bigger guys would cop out-he always took man and ball (legally) if he had to, and he had a heart of steel.

Stop knocking Jay Shield for his physique and judge him on his play.
mortonjag 2007-08-06 06:30:25
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Aug 6 2007, 12:58 AM) [snapback]311366[/snapback]
they don't look that homeless, i'd at least expect some out of control facial growth. One guy has gel in his hair!!!! If a homeless person asked me for money with his hair gelled, i'd tell him to get his priorities straightened out.


Why do you dislike gelled hair?
mortonjag 2007-08-06 11:53:57
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Aug 6 2007, 08:33 AM) [snapback]311392[/snapback]
Excuse me!?!?!? People were throwing themselves in front of buses.

It still pisses people off. It's a millstone round the big man's neck.

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mortonjag 2007-08-06 15:53:38
QUOTE(lush @ Aug 6 2007, 03:09 PM) [snapback]311521[/snapback]
Are you trying to say TiD is an alky? rolleyes.gif

Jesus-NO! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-06 15:56:41
QUOTE(upaclose @ Aug 6 2007, 03:19 PM) [snapback]311536[/snapback]
I think he's projecting. MJ's a bit touchy about the alky thing.

He is, however, more than happy to discuss his 17 gay sons.


Look if you must discuss the sexuality of my sons, only sixteen are gay-the other's the millionaire-remember!



mortonjag 2007-08-06 15:57:36
QUOTE(lush @ Aug 6 2007, 03:22 PM) [snapback]311539[/snapback]
Are you trying to say MJ is an alky? ohmy.gif


I wouldn't DARE deny it!


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mortonjag 2007-08-06 16:00:21
QUOTE(lush @ Aug 6 2007, 03:24 PM) [snapback]311543[/snapback]
Is that work partners, or lifetime partners?

sounds like rich brown pouffe partners-care to share my new stool darling? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-06 16:05:44 The preying mantis can still have a wee shag after it's head's been bitten off by its mate.


(something to do with the post oesophageal ganglion)

I could never get near mine for days after she bit my head off.
mortonjag 2007-08-06 16:07:46
QUOTE(upaclose @ Aug 6 2007, 03:13 PM) [snapback]311529[/snapback]
Yep, it was in a hessian sack at the bottom of the Murdieston dam...

wearing SCUBA kit and counting £100 notes
mortonjag 2007-08-06 16:12:19
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Aug 6 2007, 01:42 PM) [snapback]311483[/snapback]
suppose you've got to know what a fluffer is for it to work...



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suppose you've got to know what height he is for it to work-sorry-I saw the funny side, but he's been getting pelters and described as a 'midget'-which isn't quite true!
mortonjag 2007-08-07 05:39:57


Gretna threaten action against Alexander
HUGH MacDONALD, Chief (HERALD) Sportswriter August 07 2007

The row between Rowan Alexander and Gretna escalated last night with the club threatening disciplinary action.

Alexander, who took sick leave in March, turned up at Fir Park on Saturday before Gretna's first match in the Clydesdale Bank Premier League against Falkirk.

In a statement last night, the club described Alexander's actions as "stage managed", adding: "Rowan Alexander's attendance was clearly intended to bring the name of the club into disrepute, as demonstrated by his prepared press statement, and was also in breach of an agreement between himself and the club that he refrain from attendance until his own situation at the club has been resolved."
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The statement added that Gretna rebutted "any suggestion that delays in resolving his situation have been caused by the club".

It said Alexander had not been the subject of any disciplinary action "but in the light of Saturday's events may now be forced to reconsider its position in this regard".

Alexander replied last night that he had informed the club in person and by fax he would be prepared to travel to Gretna for a meeting today.

He added: "Again, while the club have managed to issue a press statement, by close of business today, we have not received a response.

"As was previously stated, if Gretna would prefer my solicitor to be in contact directly with their solicitors, then we are happy to proceed in that direction."

After going on sick leave in March, Alexander pledged to return in time for the new season. However, the club appointed Davie Irons, his one-time assistant, as club manager after they achieved promotion to the first division after a dramatic victory against Ross County on the last day of the season.

Alexander has a five-year rolling contract at the club which is believed to be worth £100,000 a year.
mortonjag 2007-08-07 05:49:32
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 6 2007, 01:21 PM) [snapback]311477[/snapback]
Becoming a bit more positive and perhaps we can sneak a result.

I am stuck in the mind-set of the 'league is the priority' etc but as we aint gonig to win the league a cup run would be nice.

Also, as we have the chance of a big team in the CIS cup this one could be even more lucrative.


Still reckon we are up against it but if we take our chances we have every chance.

No doubt we will make our usual run to a now familiar away tie in the Challenge Cup Semi's!

Wonder if the Beeb will be at Dens?

Congratulations young man-I see those spectacles have finally been prescribed! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-07 05:52:37
QUOTE(Mick @ Aug 6 2007, 11:13 PM) [snapback]311730[/snapback]
I work with a guy who ran the line in the first last season and has seen a few / heard about some of the teams pre-season.

Spoke to him today about the league this season:

Expects Dunfermline to do the necessary. Thinks St. J might flatter and QoS will surprise a few (seemed to think that they'll be v well organised), as will we.
He is not sure about Dundee but admitted to not knowing much about them. Generally accepted though that they've strengthened pre-season.

Partick are miles away from being anything approaching decent but suggested that McCall should be able to do a job for them this season - prob bottom half, poss bottom three depending on how long it takes to get themselves organised. Think he's doing one of their matches soon so will ask him for thoughts then.

Clyde will struggle, as will Stirling.
Hamilton are nothing too flashy but will finish mid-table along with us and prob QoS.

Edit to add: Forgot to mention Livvie. He thinks they'll struggle to challenge this season. Likely mid-table.....would be good for us a to put a marker down next week at Cappielow.

Further edit to add: To bring this back on topic a little, I'm really looking forward to returning to Dens (must be 15+ years since I last went there). Reckon it will be tough and anything we get is a bonus. Would love to win, but would much prefer 3 points at East End on Saturday!


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I thought assistant referees were all half blind!
mortonjag 2007-08-07 05:59:06 I thoroughly enjoyed that game-the boys all played well-even if the Clyde 'Goal' had been allowed I'd still have been pleased.

We will win tonight. I have decided-Bobby Linn will come good at home! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-07 06:07:11
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 4 2007, 08:03 PM) [snapback]310720[/snapback]
No way was the free kick indirect.

It came from a late Finlayson challenge for which he was booked. No way could that be indirect.

Not sure exactly what indirect free kicks are given for
... pass-back is the only thing that springs to mind.

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mortonjag 2007-08-07 06:12:02 I don't get too bothered about our strips as long as they're blue and white, and preferably hoops.

I was looking at the shirts being sported by many fans on Saturday, and honestly thought the blue lacked any strength-it made the strip look like it had already been through the wash a dozen times.
mortonjag 2007-08-07 06:16:43
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Aug 3 2007, 12:37 PM) [snapback]309851[/snapback]
Sorry my viking friend I dont think you understood my earleir post - I said that I would prefer people who abuse players did not attend Morton games, at no time I have I ever suggested that people be banned from games. Purely a personal thing - I am a fan, I like to encourage not abuse, and selfishly I would like to be surrounded by like minded individuals - in my book, there are people who are meant to abuse the Morton players, and they are called oposition fans.

LIAR-you've sent me off to bed in tears more times than I care to admit.
mortonjag 2007-08-07 06:19:58
QUOTE(GMC @ Aug 6 2007, 07:19 PM) [snapback]311631[/snapback]
I very much doubt that... laugh.gif


Three days later and I discover somebody DOES read my posts!!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-07 06:25:01
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 6 2007, 02:19 PM) [snapback]311502[/snapback]
I thought McAnespie was man of the match. He had a crucial impact with his set pieces, is composed on the ball and can pick a pass. Needs to work on his fitness though.


I though KM's 'presence' was pretty obvious.

It was actually quite amusing to see him, Spoonsy, and Jamie line up for THAT free kick!

I didn't hear any quotes this time about being relieved to have scored because he'd pushed another player off the ball! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-07 06:34:53
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 6 2007, 11:17 PM) [snapback]311733[/snapback]
U R awful ? That was Dick Emery wasn't it ? And you've got to be pulling a donger when you mention sunshine in Morecambe. That must have been the radioactive glow from Heysham. laugh.gif\</td>
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mortonjag 2007-08-07 06:38:06
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Aug 6 2007, 11:28 PM) [snapback]311743[/snapback]
Thought the programme was much better than last season's offering. Also pleased to see the new fixtures bit near the back of the programme, where it's actually gonna show line ups and subs etc rather than just who scored like it did last season.



£2.50-a pint of beer or ten fags but for a Match Day programme-

GREEDY b*****dS laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-07 06:44:32
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 6 2007, 11:31 PM) [snapback]311746[/snapback]
I had a similar view but I was concentrating on McAllister going down and didn't follow the ball , I don't know whether the referee awaited for an advantage before blowing for the foul or if it had been handled . Was surprised he gave the penalty as it was so close to the edge of the box .



Those situations always depend on perspective Chris. I'm still amused at yon' goal in the away thrashing of Forfar (when the ball was quite clearly trickling towards the inside of the post with everybody stranded) being credited to the first player, when in fact it was thumped over the line from very close range-just like on Saturday.
mortonjag 2007-08-07 06:53:51 Wouldn't it be nice to hear the full interview with Jamie. It may well have been a silly throw away comment-probably a quote from JM or MC, but the Hacks never miss a chance.

Now if Jimbo had said that, it might be different-he starts his warm up at 6 a.m., but Jamie? huh.gif wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-07 06:58:33
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 6 2007, 09:25 PM) [snapback]311665[/snapback]
What's funny about that ?

Walker isn't comfortable at the back and MacGregor isn't comfortable in midfield. I would switch both although I wouldn't put MacGregor in the centre of the three.

In our pre season friendlies Gretna and Morecambe took about 10 minutes to realise Walker was the weak link and started exposing him by playing diagonal balls in behind him.



I didn't say anything about where Walker should play-he was NOT poor on Saturday, and the suggestion that DM's a central defender at 1st Division level IS funny.
mortonjag 2007-08-07 07:01:14
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Aug 6 2007, 09:35 PM) [snapback]311671[/snapback]
I had noticed his reply, but you get to the stage where you stop taking notice of what he says. So I chose to ignore it.

I personally feel that McGregor is the best of the centre halfs we have at the club, and he reads the game well at the back, an important attribute for the middle centre back of a 3. Would have Harding as the right player, and a replacement for the left.

But i'd be surprised if it happened.

There was NO reply-I merely chuckled at the thought of this new Marvin Andrews winning every ball in the air!

That-and the fact that Walker looked far from fazed on Saturday.
mortonjag 2007-08-07 07:12:57
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 6 2007, 11:55 PM) [snapback]311757[/snapback]
Aye well I've tried the Absinthe, but stopped short of the fairies. Mr Yeats believed that they lived in his garden too, surprising for the sober fascist that he was. Maybe you have to be mad to be a great poet.


I will arise and go now,
The Guinness makes me pee
In a small cabin, built there
Of broken breeze block made
Nineteen goes will I have there
Big prostates are surely a 'B'
And I always spray the place with 'Glade'.
mortonjag 2007-08-07 07:20:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 6 2007, 05:15 PM) [snapback]311605[/snapback]
Aye, he's actually a dwarf. laugh.gif


Technically he's a relative midget-though he has a somewhat dwarfish physiognomy.

Dwarfism is pathological, whereas midgetry, as in the Pygmy tribe, is genetic.

Pygmies have relatively big 'willies'.
mortonjag 2007-08-07 07:23:07
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 6 2007, 11:25 AM) [snapback]311429[/snapback]
He believes it shows that they are well off.

I 've believed for ages that 'homelessness' and wealth are not always mutually exclusive.

What's wrong with homelessness?

When I was homeless I wasn't skint-mind you I didnt gel my hair either.
mortonjag 2007-08-07 07:25:17
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 28 2007, 11:47 PM) [snapback]305827[/snapback]
Cholocate Rain History crashing through your veins

This is the greatest song of all time.


Opinion Mick.

Ave Maria is SO beautiful I've been known to weep!
mortonjag 2007-08-07 07:28:51
QUOTE(McInally`s Monkey @ Aug 6 2007, 11:26 PM) [snapback]311742[/snapback]
Good printer, cheap ink. That's what I get for being a tight arse!

Indeed, said puppy was found today safe and well. A bit cold and hungry but safe and well all the same. Thanks very much for your concern everyone (well, almost everyone some of you sick feckers!)


Have him neutered mate-problem solved!
mortonjag 2007-08-07 07:32:11
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Aug 6 2007, 04:55 PM) [snapback]311600[/snapback]
the proper name for your banjo string is the frenum.


or frenulum!
mortonjag 2007-08-07 07:35:12
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Aug 6 2007, 11:28 PM) [snapback]311744[/snapback]
Pigs can't work a TV remote.

Why all the satellite dishes in Feegie?
mortonjag 2007-08-07 07:37:53
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 6 2007, 11:39 PM) [snapback]311750[/snapback]
William Wallace was a transvestite whose hobbies included crochet and making wax models of a capercaillie's penis.

You knew him too-bloody freak that man-he once asked me to fasten his bra and groused all day when I told him to f*ck off.
mortonjag 2007-08-07 07:42:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 7 2007, 07:39 AM) [snapback]311817[/snapback]
Are you his Uncle ? Technically?

His Uncle Technically lives in Shields Road.

My Monkey is sure he's met him somewhere though.
mortonjag 2007-08-07 07:52:22
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 7 2007, 07:23 AM) [snapback]311808[/snapback]
I think we may see some changes tonight with the starting elwven . I think if we can hold our own in the league after the disappointing summer I for one will forgive not having our strongest line up in these early cup competitions .
With this in mind my line up would be
McGurn
Harding ------------- Greacan -------------- Walker
Shields McAllister
Keenan
Millar Weatherson
Stevenson

Graham

Bench ; Robinson , Templeman , McGeough , Gilbride , Finlayson

Obviously it would be a big change from last seasons policy of sticking with the same players every game . I think that will be the big question can we expect those players to be able to perform at a constant level . We got away with doing it last season but having watched the Clyde game its obviously going to be physically and mentally harder for the players .

The way I read it is this-if Shoogly thinks the win's important enough (and financially he'd be daft not to) JM will go with his 'best side' which will presumably mean Saturday's side.

That's of course barring injuries or folk coming into contention through fitness.

In a cup tie I'd have all the fighters playing-Kev, Deano, Stu, Kieran, Jimbo and I'd give Davie McGurn a chance to shine. I'd also play Linn on his 'home' ground if possible.

There again, I probably get carried away with the psychology of football, which is rather silly when JM's read all those countless coaching manuals.
mortonjag 2007-08-07 08:03:06
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 7 2007, 07:48 AM) [snapback]311822[/snapback]
Has he met your other relative, Big Willie?



The Monkey or Mr Shields?
mortonjag 2007-08-07 08:07:04 On this day twelve years ago Mr Edwards did a really big one.
mortonjag 2007-08-07 08:10:15
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 7 2007, 08:06 AM) [snapback]311828[/snapback]
Now you're trying to confuse me. biggrin.gif


I've seen so many big willies DE-I get confused myself-in fact I can't think clearly right now for that wee choon 'The Road to Dundee' buzzin' roon in ma heid!

Good feeling about tonight. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-07 08:21:50 Rumours of a Slovakian under 23 striker expressing interest in Ton.
mortonjag 2007-08-07 08:54:08
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Aug 7 2007, 08:44 AM) [snapback]311840[/snapback]
i think he rides a minnie

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mortonjag 2007-08-07 09:00:52
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Aug 7 2007, 08:56 AM) [snapback]311849[/snapback]
Happy Birthday Archie.

You're getting old.


Mata Hari's got a jump start on him.
mortonjag 2007-08-07 09:02:41
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Aug 7 2007, 08:58 AM) [snapback]311851[/snapback]
Last time I saw Morton play Celtic was up at Celtic Park - I was sitting in the Morton end.

Me and my auld man went up with Pedro McGhee and his Da [I think], I was pretty young at the time. I was saying I hope it's a draw, because I felt sorry for my Da - him supporting only Celtic but sitting in the 'Ton end with us.

Is that the game you were on about? What year was that in??

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mortonjag 2007-08-07 09:05:40
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Aug 7 2007, 09:00 AM) [snapback]311852[/snapback]
All we need is to sign Mickey and Jamie Mole...................... I'll be well cheesd off.

I'm led to believe Mr Musse is a clinical goalscorer, though I've not seen a video of the famous Musse trap and volley.
mortonjag 2007-08-07 09:11:41
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Aug 7 2007, 09:04 AM) [snapback]311856[/snapback]
I mean obviously about eight years old - surely you can differentiate between eight and eighteen?

Or is it all the same to you with people under seventy-five? rolleyes.gif

FFS Mick my partner's quite young!
mortonjag 2007-08-07 09:28:33
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Aug 7 2007, 09:14 AM) [snapback]311861[/snapback]
What age is he ( your partner ) ?

Are you calling me a pouffe AGAIN?



He's 32.
mortonjag 2007-08-07 09:30:04
QUOTE(nedson @ Aug 6 2007, 09:28 AM) [snapback]311403[/snapback]
hope you do. Heard our strips never needed washed after saturday. too much of a stroll to break sweat so we're gonna need a challenge soon!!!

Word of advice for you.. if you go to Livingston whenever you play them it was stinking of cow sh*te or something at the weekend................

Pearce Flynn attends most matches.
mortonjag 2007-08-07 09:35:07
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 7 2007, 09:25 AM) [snapback]311865[/snapback]
Simple solution: http://www.toffs.com/icat/morton

Far nicer strip than any of the modern fashionista rubbish and cheaper too. I wouldn't touch a modern replica strip with a bargepole, uncomfortable synthetic material and WTF walk around looking like an advertising hoarding?


Slightly off topic, a quote from Colin Hendry-

'Most of the clubs in the First Division buy Quality Street confectionery, but I must do the best I can on Penny Dainties.

I thought McCowans had gone bust-should that not have been Fudgy Wudgies?
mortonjag 2007-08-07 09:54:25
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 7 2007, 09:15 AM) [snapback]311862[/snapback]
Bobby Linn was told to rest for at least two weeks, you senile fool. tongue.gif



I take it you are his personal physician you jumped up prat.
mortonjag 2007-08-07 09:56:41
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Aug 7 2007, 09:41 AM) [snapback]311871[/snapback]
sorry mj... i don't understand.
your post Disney make sense huh.gif

Walt d'ye mean?
mortonjag 2007-08-07 09:58:36
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 7 2007, 09:51 AM) [snapback]311873[/snapback]
Nothing too spectacular. dry.gif
5 As. biggrin.gif

May I be the first to congratulate you-what are you about to do with this new found wealth?
mortonjag 2007-08-07 10:42:26
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 7 2007, 09:59 AM) [snapback]311878[/snapback]
What wealth? unsure.gif

Don't be obtuse boy or I shall personally give you six of the best.

What do you want to be when you grow up?
mortonjag 2007-08-07 10:50:47
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 7 2007, 09:56 AM) [snapback]311875[/snapback]
Naw, but it was in the Tele - it must be true, f***tard. tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2007-08-07 10:54:13
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 7 2007, 10:22 AM) [snapback]311883[/snapback]
morton must tbe the only team in the world that plays 3 centrebacks that doesnt even have 3 centrebacks in their squad? laugh.gif

the thing that worries me is that if one was injured we'd either have to change our whole system mid season or take weatherson out of his effective midfield role, or maybe even play dean keenan. i didnt think centreback was a priority until saturday.

That sounds like a criticism!
mortonjag 2007-08-07 10:57:55
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 7 2007, 10:43 AM) [snapback]311888[/snapback]
No real idea.
Possibly journalism. rolleyes.gif


That's a good answer.

What motivates you/stimulates you?

Are you materialistic?

Are you idealistic?

From experience I'd advise that a happy medium makes lots of money from gullible spiritualists.
mortonjag 2007-08-07 11:03:07
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Aug 7 2007, 10:54 AM) [snapback]311893[/snapback]
My computer forced me to upgrade from WMP10 which I really liked to WMP11. None of my DRM music plays and instead when I try to play anything it closes WMP. I rolled it back to WMP10 but the same problem still exists. I tried renewing my licences but it didn't work with an error message appearing. Can someone who knows what they're doing please help.


Do you have the original 'set up disc' from which '10' was loaded. If so you can uninstall it completely, (Control Panel-add and remove programmes) and reinstall it from the disc.
mortonjag 2007-08-07 11:20:47
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Aug 7 2007, 11:18 AM) [snapback]311902[/snapback]
Hope everybody got what they hoped for in exams.


Not likely I'm afraid SW but I believe we'll hump Dundee tonight.
mortonjag 2007-08-07 11:22:56
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 7 2007, 10:55 AM) [snapback]311894[/snapback]
not really criticism, just that i feel we need cover for that area if we're going to play 3 at the back instead of 2.

more of an observation than criticism tongue.gif

A critical observation with which I agree!
mortonjag 2007-08-07 11:29:18
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 7 2007, 10:53 AM) [snapback]311891[/snapback]
Do you doubt Roger Graham's accurate sources? ohmy.gif huh.gif

I don't get the 'Tilly' up here.

Which one's Roger Graham-is he the goody, or the one with the close 'professional' relationship with JM who writes excuses for Shoogly and pinches stuff off this rag?
mortonjag 2007-08-07 15:30:25
QUOTE(C B @ Aug 7 2007, 12:55 PM) [snapback]311942[/snapback]
No cause we are the only team in the world who JM manages, tis not strange at all laugh.gif

Hmm-sometimes I think he also manages a fantasy football team.
mortonjag 2007-08-07 15:38:26
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 7 2007, 02:58 PM) [snapback]311978[/snapback]
One of the best performances from any of our players last season was when David MacGregor played as one of three centrebacks against Brechin away towards the end of the season. I'm not saying he'll be great playing there in the first division but I'd much rather have him there than Alex Walker.


I remember it well- Davie had a good game that night against those TOWERING Brechin forwards!!!

He's a good footballer, in that he reads the game well and distributes well, but he lacks pace, and is NOT commanding in the air.

Alex heads a ball even worse-he'd tell you that himself, but to suggest he was poor on Saturday (as the original poster did) is mince IMO.
mortonjag 2007-08-07 15:41:24
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Aug 7 2007, 12:42 PM) [snapback]311937[/snapback]
But still not as good as when the Daily Star got turned over. They reported that Man City star Keke Musampa had a little brother called Chris who was on trial at Fulham. It got past the reporter and two editors and only got pulled from the later editions. That fact the call came in December didn't make them suspicious either.

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mortonjag 2007-08-07 15:44:30
QUOTE(C B @ Aug 7 2007, 12:53 PM) [snapback]311941[/snapback]
Does this mean he's coming to watch the game tonight? unsure.gif
What kind of interest does he have in the Ton? huh.gif

Jani Sturm is Slovenian for Handsome Rat.

Makes you wonder about Mikel's sexuality mind!
mortonjag 2007-08-07 15:51:09
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 7 2007, 12:11 PM) [snapback]311926[/snapback]
Congratulations.
Ooh err missus! rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2007-08-07 15:53:52 Failed my Child Psychology, and only managed a 'C' in Diplomatic Studies.

Think I may have to stop posting.
mortonjag 2007-08-07 15:59:37
QUOTE(Edinton @ Aug 7 2007, 03:34 PM) [snapback]311989[/snapback]
BBC site reckons Linn is injured and that Jim is 'relishing' the game: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/s...ups/6933818.stm



Does it mean we'll get to see him smile, or does that only happen in private when he's 'ecstatic'?
mortonjag 2007-08-07 16:30:03
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 7 2007, 04:17 PM) [snapback]312003[/snapback]
Davie rarely missess a header. He's great in the air!

Watch next time he's playing, wins balls he has no right to get near.


Care to explain that comment-are you equating DM with Marvin Andrews and the like-he's a competent header-no more, he does not get up a great height, nor is he particularly tall for a 'centre half'.
mortonjag 2007-08-07 16:32:43
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 7 2007, 04:23 PM) [snapback]312004[/snapback]
I agree with what NonTon said.

I also think that requiring these things of Muslims would just drive a deeper wedge between Muslims and the rest of the population, which could lead to further disillusionment and, thus, further attacks.

I'm pretty sure all Muslim doctors 'sign' the Hippocratic oath.
mortonjag 2007-08-08 05:58:23
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 7 2007, 05:31 PM) [snapback]312032[/snapback]
Is that because he'll be in the house for 10pm ?

Word has it he was hame at 9.23 p.m.
mortonjag 2007-08-08 06:44:50 I'm bitterly disappointed-I've read all the comments from the others-most are pretty fair, but let's try to put two or three things in perspective.

1/ This was the old 'League Cup'-the second biggest knockout competition in the Scottish Football calendar. It was a potential money spinner. I would like those who have described it as 'Mickey Mouse' to think again.

Last season, the League was a monstrous priority-the Cups mattered very little. This year we've been told we are 'consolidating'-a word I've questioned repeatedly. If that involves financial consolidation, I assume that Shoogly and JM desperately wanted to win last night, so questions MUST be asked.

2/ The one thing which AGAIN stuck out a mile last night was that we lost our way, and ran out of steam and options. There is little point in wantonly criticising individual players, but as a side we were definitely NOT 'up for this' after we went behind. The heads went down-the whole thing was encapsulated in Jamie's refusal to chase a long ball to the corner flag just before he was subbed. I had hoped Kieran was going to be BIG in the motivation department, but despite his best efforts we ended up chasing an organised and competent squad, who individually were not THAT much better than ours.

The blame for that lies fairly and squarely at the Manager's door. He can cite the Chairman, the players, the fans, the Press, injuries-whatever he lies, but he is failing us.

3/ The solution.

We apparently have money available. In the next three weeks we need at least two quality experienced players who can get this squad working properly, because McInally clearly can't on a consistent basis. That will give breathing space to assess whether or not he will ever cut it as a Manager. I'm honestly trying to be positive and not too unkind to anybody, but if I had my way, I'd sack him and Clark now.

Time will tell I suppose.
mortonjag 2007-08-08 06:55:59 Last night we started off giving the players good support-OK the enthusiasm waned but I'd hardly blame anybody for that. The only abuse seemed to come from a couple of guys who sounded half pished, and were clearly 'not the full shilling'.
mortonjag 2007-08-08 06:57:47 The win bonus has already been deposited in the 'Bank of Slovenia'. Perhaps we shouldn't be too critical of Mr Sturm's decision.
mortonjag 2007-08-08 07:02:35
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Aug 7 2007, 04:35 PM) [snapback]312007[/snapback]
nonsense, McGregor is one the best in the air at the club. If you watch, he reads the balls movements, and then jockeys for his position, he's rarely moved from his position, which is why he wins more headers than he loses. Great technique.


Just a point of information-we're now playing in the FIRST division against fitter full time players. If Greacen is preferred to this burgeoning Colossus of a 'stopper' questions must be asked of JM.

You can't have it both ways.

Frankly I think you're talking mince!
mortonjag 2007-08-08 07:09:45 Talking of a 'RIP OFF'- I thought the Dundee programme last night looked great value at £1.

Never judge a book by its cover-Dundee's always been famous for its comics, and it's now official-


Robinson is 5' 8"-an inch shorter than MIDGE, with Jay Shields only behind our giant goalie by the same margin!!!

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mortonjag 2007-08-08 07:23:04
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 7 2007, 06:04 PM) [snapback]312041[/snapback]
Paying that money for Templeman was about the worst investment made there is no way we can recoup that money . It was probably due to such decisions that we are now living in a more realistic situation .
I would have liked McGowan back but to risk everything on one player is hardly a good plan .
I think we need ideally 2 upfront , 1 midfield player with quality and a decent centre half . We have played one game and we have a few more to play before the window closes , so perhaps we'll take stock again nearer the time to strengthen .


Chris-after last night's game I really think we have to look seriously at this preposession with the need for a 'striker'.

Somebody pointed out recently that the best 'striker' in the world will fail without a supply. On a big wide pitch, it stuck out a mile that one of the few decent crosses of the whole night came from Kevin Finlayson!!

We don't seem to believe in wing play-'wing backs'-aye- or midfielders by the dozen, but the option of a decent winger seems to pass JM by.

Secondly we DESPERATELY need a motivator-last night that was crystal clear-it definitely doesn't come from the anaesthetic 'technical area'!

Thirdly, I'm getting pissed off with our neglect of a struggling defensive set up-we need a MAIN MAN in central defence. Big Marvin's a good example, and he's playing a Division below us.

Templeman, Weatherson, Linn, and even young Graham-simply by the law of averages-will score plenty of goals if the rest's in place.
mortonjag 2007-08-08 07:26:58 My thoughts IT-

JM really hasn't proved anything to me except that if there's a hard way to do something he'll find it.
mortonjag 2007-08-08 07:28:05
QUOTE(big B @ Aug 8 2007, 05:27 AM) [snapback]312249[/snapback]
Fans have been saying for a while now we need a strong midfielder and a predator goalscorer. Well let's have some realistic names.

Derek McInnes and Warren Hawke.
mortonjag 2007-08-08 07:34:13
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Aug 7 2007, 11:58 PM) [snapback]312206[/snapback]
That's right aye, if your name is Clocherty you can't so much as fart without your name being plastered all over the rag dry.gif

CLOCHERTY is not a real name surely-naw this was some mid European immigrant who's conned us with a mix of CLOCH and DOCHERTY! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-08 07:37:12
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 8 2007, 03:35 AM) [snapback]312248[/snapback]
Sure you've got enough mayo there? tongue.gif



That looks disgustingly like a loop of small intestine!
mortonjag 2007-08-08 07:39:03
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 7 2007, 11:48 PM) [snapback]312198[/snapback]
A 30something troll...... why Paul that's the nicest thing you've ever said to me. rolleyes.gif

Oh come on Paul get off your high horse, you know fine well the point I was making ya mischievous old monkey you.

To start to single out people to sign some meaningless 'covenant of security' (whatever the f*** that is) based solely on their religious faith is obviously a completely ridiculous and proposterous idea.

You might as well suggest that all people from Paisley should sign a 'Covenant of Hygiene'. Come to think of it...... unsure.gif



....THEY CANNAE WRITE?
mortonjag 2007-08-08 07:42:46
QUOTE(The Viking @ Aug 8 2007, 07:39 AM) [snapback]312265[/snapback]
Gave up reading most of your posts MortanJag because you are a bit of a c**k.

This one started off ok, but you blew it at the end by saying if you were in charge you would sack the management team. We can all have our opinions about what kind of job they are doing at the moment, some say they are doing fine, others c**p.

Let's say YOU did sack them can you enlighten me as to who you would bring in and why. Any prospective manager reading this board wouldn't touch the job. The negativity is a disgrace. We are 2 games into the season. Won 1 lost 1. What do we do SACK THE MANAGEMENT. If this was the case half the clubs in Scotland would have sacked their managers after last nights games. Some of them have actually lost the first 2.

Cmon the Ton

I'm never one to disappoint. It is my considered opinion. As I said, 'Time will tell'! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-08 09:22:43
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Aug 8 2007, 08:21 AM) [snapback]312274[/snapback]
The idea of sacking McInally and Clark is really quite fatuous if for no other reason than it would probably cost us more than what we have in the transfer budget. Try another one MJ.

Ever heard the term 'Money down a stank', or another one 'A stitch in time' TaunTon?

For starters we don't need two Managers-two wage bills when one would do-WHY?

Secondly I put this to you.

IF a 'new broom' came in now, and turned things around, how much more income from gate receipts and 'spin-offs' would we generate by next May?

Controversial-Aye

Fatuous-that's your avatar.
mortonjag 2007-08-08 09:23:48
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 8 2007, 08:23 AM) [snapback]312275[/snapback]
Reality check?

We've won 4 out the last 20 games in the CIS (albeit 2 finished as draws and we won on penalties), anyone who expected us to win last night is clearly deluded!

I suspect you may be Tonsilitis's 'Love Child'.
mortonjag 2007-08-08 09:27:24
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 8 2007, 09:22 AM) [snapback]312290[/snapback]
Morton: Robinson, Weatherson, Walker, Harding (Graham 76), Greacen, Finlayson (Shields 62), Millar (Keenan 54), Stevenson, Templeman, McAnespie, McAlistair.
Subs Not Used: Coakley, McGurn

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Is what the BBC has as the team, so who wasn't subbed if Stevenson was?

Good morning Chocolate Boy-if the huff button isn't on, can I say that last night Deano was one of a few who didn't look as though he'd have benefitted from a rocket up his arse.
mortonjag 2007-08-08 09:31:17
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 8 2007, 08:41 AM) [snapback]312278[/snapback]
Sturm was the only thing that kept me reasonably happy last night, I didn't see anything from him that makes me think that he is any better than what we have (and we are screaming out for a striker) plus the abuse he got at the final whistle was nothing short of what he deserved.
If he manages to get a game for Dundee and plays against us in the league I suspect he can expect even more.

midTONs-I NEVER did, but if you'd have believed the weans on this rag he was the next McGraw or Alexander!!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-08 09:35:50
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Aug 8 2007, 08:27 AM) [snapback]312276[/snapback]
LOCAL MISFIT SEEN BUYING TIN OF BEANS FROM WEE TESCO
Sick Mick, son of a local Labour Councillor, was spotted earlier this afternoon exiting tesco with a tin of beans. The Greenock Telegraph believes he intends to consume these beans and release several volatile gasses - wreaking havoc on the Town Centre. It is not yet known whether or not police action will be taken.
But we f*cking hope so.


...as Tesco deny all liability and a successful prosecution is unlikely.
mortonjag 2007-08-08 09:39:19
QUOTE(big B @ Aug 8 2007, 09:31 AM) [snapback]312298[/snapback]
And that is being realistic NOT.


Mensing and Sutton? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-08 10:02:12
QUOTE(big B @ Aug 8 2007, 09:43 AM) [snapback]312306[/snapback]
That was never going to happen.

Pardon ME!

It was in the 'TILLY'.
mortonjag 2007-08-08 10:10:50
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Aug 8 2007, 10:02 AM) [snapback]312320[/snapback]



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The fantastic Scapa PR machine purrs on faultlessly.


Spit it out Shoogly-what ARE you trying to tell us the day after we blew a potential wee goldmine from the CIS Cup?

Would Gowsa have solved last nights second half woes-if the unequivocal answer is 'YES' then at least your information is credible?

Frankly I think that after JM stating he thought you'd already offered too much, you're just making a fool of yourself AND him (if that were necessary).

Whatever that '25%' may mean, you look like you can shell out at least 100k on playing staff-why don't you get real before it's too late?
mortonjag 2007-08-08 10:18:45
QUOTE(nedson @ Aug 8 2007, 09:56 AM) [snapback]312317[/snapback]
Even though Dundee will get better the more games we have together i dont think Morton struggling to stay up would have ever been a problem.

you'll have a better than expected season this year and be challenging next year. There are a lot worse team than Morton in this league i can guarantee!



Are you JM's next door neighbour? wink.gif

If you're talking about the quality on show-sure I've consistently claimed that two or three experienced players could see this squad challenge for a top spot.

It's the seemingly belligerent refusal or inability to attract such players (our Chairman's just announced there's 80k + in the kitty), that's wearing some of us down.

That and McInally's use of the squad, which at times borders on the bizarre.
mortonjag 2007-08-08 10:24:48
QUOTE(Caltonfan @ Aug 8 2007, 10:20 AM) [snapback]312328[/snapback]
why are we still trying to get mcgowan? ok he was good last season but he is yet another unproven player at first division level. If we are going to spend this much on a player go for someone like Allan Jenkins.


Jenkins is not the only guy around.

When will the TRUTH ever come from GMFC.

WHO decides on signing policy-even JM said last week the deal was 'dead and buried' and he MUST know he needs a minimum of two players-NOT a fresh faced youth.

I 'll take stick for this but again it looks like Shoogly's losing his marbles.
mortonjag 2007-08-08 10:29:22
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Aug 8 2007, 10:10 AM) [snapback]312323[/snapback]
People have always sad if the labour party put up a dancing monkey in Inverclyde with a labour rosette then they will still get elected

Them 2 are living proof


'dead' you mean.
mortonjag 2007-08-08 10:44:59
QUOTE(MfcRyan @ Aug 8 2007, 10:31 AM) [snapback]312336[/snapback]
Your like a broken record mate.

gies peace rolleyes.gif

Would it not be more civilised to state that you disagree with a perfectly legitimate opinion, and tell me WHY?

Repetitive carbon copy 'throw away' comments like yours every time somebody-not always myself-dares to question the establishment probably come from posters with very little between their ears.
mortonjag 2007-08-08 17:32:13
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Aug 8 2007, 12:55 PM) [snapback]312428[/snapback]
It's exactly what I expected actually.

A midweek game in a meaningless cup
with Dunfermline on Saturday ? Plus, we played crap in this cup against Brechin last season and that was when we were on a hot streak. That's why I don't read too much into the performance last night.

The defending still worries me though, and that's because even with the feet off the gas a bit, a defence should still be able to look competent.

Comments like that make me realise how hard I sometimes am on some people.

No disrespect Dom Dom, but have you not realised we're NOT challenging for promotion this year-sure we COULD have been-but we're not.

Nobody quite seems to understand why we didn't get the players we desperately need, but unless you're suggesting that the points on Saturday are SO crucial at this stage (presumably because you fear relegation), last night was a golden opportunity for credibility, cash, and excitement for the fans in a cup which will undoubtedly be won by an SPL side.

Every time JM f*cks up we gets feeble excuses-the only consolation is that the 70%+ who had total faith seems to be steadily diminishing. Sooner or later reality will bite where it matters.

mortonjag 2007-08-08 17:36:30
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 8 2007, 12:27 PM) [snapback]312406[/snapback]
I wonder if he had a goodnights kip after that .....

He's permanently giving it 'ZZZZZ's'-I've never seen the man animated. I get the impression that if you stuck a pin in his arse he'd whisper ouch two minutes later.
mortonjag 2007-08-08 17:42:05
QUOTE(MfcRyan @ Aug 8 2007, 11:00 AM) [snapback]312346[/snapback]
You are intitled to your opinion the same as anyone who uses this message board. The thing which gets people backs up is the fact you act like a five year old who thinks the louder and more they shout then people will start to get on your side. IT'S BORING! You have your opinion but does every thread need to descend into critiscism of McInally, Rae and the way the club's being run? you sound like an Old Firm fan wink.gif


You clearly read very selectively, speak for everybody, and don't understand English Grammar.

There again you may just be a five year old.
mortonjag 2007-08-08 17:43:48
QUOTE(GMC @ Aug 8 2007, 11:20 AM) [snapback]312357[/snapback]
Are you trying your best to be ignored? It's working.

There must be about 1 in 10 posters who don't have you on ignore now.

Now, where's that button?

Are you blinded by the sunbeams shining from Shoogly's posterior aperture?
mortonjag 2007-08-08 17:49:55 'Liar' may be too strong a word, but in the last two months the Chairman and Manager have repeatedly contradicted each other AND themselves.

The fans are being treated like muppets by a pair of MUPPETS and there are still those who can't see it. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-09 06:36:43
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 8 2007, 07:51 PM) [snapback]312599[/snapback]
My sentiments exactly. I believe that in this team of ours we have a bunch of very talented boys (I chose the word carefully) who, with the right guidance and support on the park from a couple of old heads and a manager who knows how utilises them correctly, would be a real force in this league, and would be more than capable of if not going up this season, then doing so with just a wee bit more strengthening next summer. The raw materials are there.

However, if we're going to continously throw silly money at one (1) wee boy, i.e. Paul McGowan, then we're going nowhere. What Jim/Dougie needs to do with that £80,000 (and presumably, McGowan would have got a healthy wage packet on top) is to use it at least two of: a good, solid holding midfielder, an experienced defender and a decent striker. I can't imagine we'd exceed £80,000 in fees for 2/3 decent quality players if the money was used prudently. On top of that, Jim needs to get over this ridiculous idea of throwing square pegs into all manner of shaped holes - Jamie up front or on the right, McAlister and Millar in the middle whilst Jamie and Kieran are wasting their time on the flanks, the strange decision to swap McGregor and Walker, the mysterious case of Peter Weatherson - the list goes on.
I'm not sure I would be in a desperate rush to sack McInally quite yet, but I would be wanting to have a stern word in his ear if I was footing the bills - there's a difference between telling him to stop being so silly, and actually interfering with the team directly. What I would do though, would propose that he gets himself a coach who's been over the course before to guide him in the same way the older guys on the pitch would do for the players.



Why not just get that guy and let Jim go? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-09 06:47:58
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 8 2007, 02:51 PM) [snapback]312464[/snapback]
After being quite critical of Walker I agree he was one of our best performers last night.

I can't agree about Finlayson though. He tries hard but is devoid of any quality. He panics in possession and usually when he gets in a good position to cross he lays it back for someone else to cross. Although in saying that he did put a couple of decent crosses in last night.

If you think it's quality that wins Cup Ties you've not been watching football for long JT. wink.gif

Alex Walker was always a footballer-his face clearly didn't fit last season-nae chance against all the wee teacher's pets.
mortonjag 2007-08-09 06:55:46
QUOTE(MfcRyan @ Aug 8 2007, 06:08 PM) [snapback]312502[/snapback]
sorry big man blink.gif

You are forgiven-Mortonjag does not bear grudges.
mortonjag 2007-08-09 07:01:56
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 8 2007, 09:05 PM) [snapback]312700[/snapback]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRVxQsd4X-8

Yeah, he's not a striker mortonjag rolleyes.gif

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His first was a run and shot. The second was a FREE header-how many headers did he score in his whole time with us?

Just down to the definition of a striker Chocolate Boy.

SPOONSY



...now THAT's what I call a 'striker'!
mortonjag 2007-08-09 07:36:09 Is it not becoming clearer by the minute that GMFC is just Douglas Rae's toy?

I don't believe everything that JM says-mainly because he frequently seems to talk out his arse, but I DO believe him on this one.

Relative success in running a sweetie factory guarantees absolutely nothing in Football.

What does his son, and the other directors think about this fiasco-and the Nike fiasco for that matter?

Look at his programme notes last Saturday.

Two full pages and every paragraph a gem.

He starts off by saying 'Now that we are in among some of the bigger boys, it is our intention to ensure that when they play our lads that the opposition know, at the end of the 90 minutes that they have indeed been involved in a hard battle for the points'.

Really Shoogly-what would the alternative have been? laugh.gif, and hard to miss the comparison of his LADS with the BIGGER BOYS.

Then-almost a whole page devoted to how the game should be changed-totally Shooglyesque, followed by a long tiresome spiel about the pre-season-'Old Hat' if ever there was, and FINALLY...what we were gasping to hear about...

NEW PLAYERS

A desciption in glowing terms of Kieran McAnespie and and Jay Shields appended by..


'WELCOME BACK TOO TO 95% OF LAST YEARS SQUAD WHO, BY WINNING PROMOTION, DESERVE THE RIGHT TO REPRESENT THE CLUB THIS YEAR IN THE FIRST DIVISION. I BELIEVE THEY ARE GOOD ENOUGH TO DO SO, AND WITH THE RIGHT BACKING FROM ALL MORTON SUPPORTERS I AM SURE THAT WE WILL HAVE A GOOD SEASON'.

Thinly veiled dig at the 'negativity boys' there Shoogly! rolleyes.gif

So that's it folks, and to put the final touch to the 'Shoogly Babes' master plan, the Custodian of our fortunes was willing to shell out another 80k plus, just to prove HE was right!
mortonjag 2007-08-09 07:49:58
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 8 2007, 07:44 PM) [snapback]312586[/snapback]
WTF is that supposed to mean ?
I know I've heard it before when we missed out on Mensing . We didn't need a player for that position as McGregor had played there in a closed door friendly .
I've got it Kevin Finlayson he played against Stirling up front last season .Perfect candidate . No need to panic buy . Dougie put your wallet away dry.gif
Really to say that in the transfer window is about the most inane thing you could say in the circumstances .
We have a bad combination a Chairman who does what he pleases and a manager who lets him
.

GMFC in a single sentence!
mortonjag 2007-08-09 07:53:45 Song for Shoogly pre Christmas

Who's sorry now?
mortonjag 2007-08-09 08:16:07
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Aug 9 2007, 08:08 AM) [snapback]312836[/snapback]
I only saw the first thrid of last season and so my opinion is not as valid as most , but , from what I saw of McGowan I'd reckon he be worth spending 150 to 200 grand on ; I know that puts me in a minority , but I salute the fact that the club upped their offer and find it incredible that some folks are moaning that we are prepared to spend money on a top quality player.

It would be good if we had other targets too , mind you.


Given that he took a while to settle I'd suggest by your own formula that he's well worth half a milion now.

MILLIONS-the tiny tasty chewy sweets.
mortonjag 2007-08-09 09:38:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 9 2007, 08:58 AM) [snapback]312849[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

Would it help, mate, if I sent JM enough for a phone call ??

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None are so blind ....


Well newt-Shoogly said he would 'phone Stan Webster-but then Shoogly says many things. We have no PROOF that JM ever got the message.

The truth at Scapa seems harder to find than a black hair on an Albino's arse.
mortonjag 2007-08-09 09:41:25
QUOTE(para @ Aug 9 2007, 09:08 AM) [snapback]312853[/snapback]
and how do you prupose JM stops Douggie


If that question's directed at me, it's perfectly obvious he can't.
mortonjag 2007-08-09 09:48:11
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Aug 9 2007, 09:07 AM) [snapback]312852[/snapback]
I'm not saying that this couldn't have been handled better, but I think it's typical of some posters on here to berate the club for trying to push the boat out for Gowser. The Chairman ,JM, Allan Moore and plenty of others (on here included) can see what he is capable of. I 'm personally grateful that they tried so hard to get him People are shouting about the money being spent on other targets . We've tried for Sutton /Mensing/Sturm and been knocked back.The difference with Gowser was that he publicly stated that he loved his time at the club and wanted to come back. Unfortunately circumstances may be overtaking us - Gowser is scoring regularly for the reserves and others - including Celtic - are seeing his potential worth. (more clearly than the doom and gloom crew on here , evidently)

Then if all is well at the club, why were we told categorically that the problem was NOT the fee, but the money this little man wanted for himself?

That, of course, has now been altered to a story of greedy, greedy, Celtic victimising poor wee Morton.

Cornbeef-wake up and smell the coffee-I don't believe anybody's saying Gowsa's rubbish, but he's a kid who still has a LONG way to go-he blew hot and cold last year in a lower division.

100k could be MUCH more wisely spent.

Just one final comment-please don't use the term the 'club' when you mean Mr Rae.
mortonjag 2007-08-09 14:04:09
QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 9 2007, 10:26 AM) [snapback]312866[/snapback]
Agree exactly with the 2 above. It does smack of ungratefulness a little when people are trying to sign this fantastic talent for us - and he is a great player - and people moan about it. I am pretty sure McGowan will go on to great things and for people to complain that our chairman wanted to buy him for us is pretty churlish.

People say the money could be spent on an experienced midfielder but it is unlikely that an experienced midfielder would have any sell on value at all so maybe that is why we wouldn't splash the cash on someone like that. Also a midfielder worth 50 grand or so would more than likely want to play in the SPL and would represent an unrealistic target. We have the advantage that McGowan has been here before and seems willing to play for us again.

I hope we offer another fee on the deadline day and if Celtic tell us no then we carry on with what we have.

Don't you mean this POTENTIALLY fantastic talent?

You have a legitimate point, and sure he could take this season by storm, but he'd not be the experienced, composed and motiving force we desperately need, as evidenced yet again on Tuesday.

This is about priorities. Players like Willie Henderson and Jinky had International caps when they were younger than this 'fantastic talent', who has still to establish a place as a regular in the Celtic 2nd string.

Priorities and hard realities Stuart. This may be 'last chance saloon' for the current Chairman/Manager combo. Surely they will get this right if some 100k's available.
mortonjag 2007-08-09 14:07:48
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 9 2007, 11:51 AM) [snapback]312887[/snapback]
O aye, he posed such a massive threat against Dundee on Tuesday. rolleyes.gif
A striker that refuses to strike - how quaint!
Time for your pills again. dry.gif



Don't let your recent scraps of paper go to your head sonny boy-Templeman was up front on his own on Tuesday and Spoonsy was posted missing in midfield.

Don't ask me why, and FFS don't ask JM! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-09 14:17:30
QUOTE(GMC @ Aug 9 2007, 02:03 PM) [snapback]312952[/snapback]
We were never told that. rolleyes.gif

That was a (obviously) false rumour posted on here by 1 poster.



If it was a false rumour-fair enough- but I certainly heard it from at least two individual sources. It just goes to prove again how difficult it is to get the truth from the Scapa Mafia.

Since you seem to know about those things, was Shoogly telling deliberate lies when he informed NewTon categorically that he was delighted with his offer and that JM would DEFINITELY be in touch with Scott McDonald's old coach by (almost) two weeks ago?

Since you seem to know about those things, am I mistaken in imagining JM promised us an experienced player who could 'put his foot on the ball'?

GMC, it seems to me that when it comes to rumours, mistruths, blatant lies, and unadulterated intrigue, Cappielow Park is in a league of its own.
mortonjag 2007-08-09 14:20:06
QUOTE(Youngsa @ Aug 9 2007, 02:10 PM) [snapback]312956[/snapback]
Report in Evening Times stating that Celtic have informed Morton that McGowan is available for a bid in the region of �100K.

I would hope we spend that sort of money more wisely.

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Shoogly-you've been Tangoed!
mortonjag 2007-08-10 05:39:49
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 9 2007, 11:52 AM) [snapback]312888[/snapback]
Sebo would score 30 in this division at least, so he's a pointless comparison.

Killen is an international who was on a bosman, he didn't get released on a free, and so again is not a valid comparison as he'd have cost more than 100k.

People keep saying use the money more wisely, go on then, if you were in charge who would you buy? With prices, wages etc taken into account.


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Always the same response from the wee boys when somebody asks a legitimate question which rattles their complacently superior knowledge!

Chocolate Boy, I don't think HT was suggesting he had the answer in DETAIL, any more than I do, for the current woes.

One thing's for sure, though-McGowan at 100k is NOT.
mortonjag 2007-08-10 05:44:35
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Aug 9 2007, 04:41 PM) [snapback]312967[/snapback]
Got it in one

I could swear you were havin' a go at me last week Scott-I seem to remember it was for criticising something.

It certainly WASN'T individual players.

If Jamie 'Can't be arsed' as you put it, I certainly saw what he can do when he 'Could be arsed' under a decent manager. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-10 05:49:41
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Aug 9 2007, 10:47 AM) [snapback]312868[/snapback]
They misquoted him in a live radio interview? That's some clever media work! blink.gif

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He clearly said he'd not have gone over 50k!
mortonjag 2007-08-10 05:52:42
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 9 2007, 12:13 PM) [snapback]312907[/snapback]
Yes, but why let that sort of common sense get in the way of the temper tantrum girls who like to shout and scream about that big bad man Rae.

CLOSE SEASON SIGNING MISSIONS

I was disappointed to note from the unofficial message board that the Club was being criticised for lack of effort and lack of ambition because we have not yet made any close season signings. Isn’t it disappointing to note that the ‘negativity boys’ are at it again? They are never happier than when they have a good old moan. Thankfully the majority of our support has greater trust and confidence in the management of our Club than some of the correspondents of the unofficial message board’! Reports have suggested that we have been sitting back and taking it easy. I wish that had been the case. Believe me, the ‘gaffer’ and I have been very very busy talking and sparring with players and their Agents.
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mortonjag 2007-08-10 05:54:20
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Aug 9 2007, 05:49 PM) [snapback]313000[/snapback]
All these Chairmans questions sessions etc are a farce. They serve as nothing but a Nuremberg Rally for the arselickers out there, and god knows there are plenty of them.

A waste of time, we want action, not soundbites.

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mortonjag 2007-08-10 06:08:29 Anybody who was at the Dundee game would have passed the Doug Cowie suite.

Doug Cowie came to the Ton after an international career when he was well past his best, and ran the boilerhouse-like Bobby Evans, and Bobby Collins did too. Transfer law is different nowadays, but as the previous two posters suggest, it should NOT be impossible to attract such players to a club with SPL potential.

It's really 'Wake up and smell the coffee time' for the Shoogly show-as with the current squad, the fact that they've now been around for three or four years doesn't make them 'old heads'.

Time for a fresh approach at Scapa?
mortonjag 2007-08-10 06:18:15 It really is testing my patience
This meaningless talk of 'Formations'
When all that's required
Is a squad that's inspired...
Not fazed by JM's aberrations.
mortonjag 2007-08-10 06:21:17
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 9 2007, 09:10 PM) [snapback]313120[/snapback]
If hard graft and effort wins cup ties then cup competitions would be won by lower league teams more often than they have.

A mix of quality and hard work wins cup ties.

My first memories of football come from Italia 90 when I was 8. Which compared to some is a short time but if this forum has taught me anything it's that some people have been watching football since the 60s and still don't have a clue about the game. wink.gif

Correct, AND league games. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-10 06:22:55
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 9 2007, 11:56 PM) [snapback]313212[/snapback]
Kevin Finlayson is s***e.

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mortonjag 2007-08-10 06:29:50 We've had the same players for ages and somebody starts this thread.

If the squad had been selected with even an ounce of forward planning, we could have eleven guys IN THEIR NATURAL POSITIONS.

Time for a shake up at Scapa?
mortonjag 2007-08-10 06:37:04
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 10 2007, 12:04 AM) [snapback]313220[/snapback]
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Every dig you have at me involves you plugging ur band of merry trumpets.

Take that last part in whatever context you wish.

I really don't know what part of my post was untrue?

We paid a ludicrous fee for Temps when IIRC he was out of contract six months later.

We paid over the odds for Linn.

McAnespie and Gowser sign new deals at Alloa and Celtic respectively, only to see the bold Dooglas swoop before the inks dried.

It's f***ing crazy business in anyone's book.

I'm amazed Mr Rae has been so succesful as with that kind of business sense I'd have thot he'd be runing a tuckshop in some wee village.

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Agent provocateur Bob!

You KNOW Shoogly's a VERY SUCCESSFUL business man who daily rubs shoulders with the Toms Hunter and Farmer of this world!

AYE RIGHT

Makes Fudgy Wudgies, and talks Fudgy Wudgies. mad.gif

mortonjag 2007-08-10 06:45:09
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 9 2007, 05:27 PM) [snapback]312982[/snapback]
Until after the goals went in when Weatherson was pushed up front.
And did nothing.
Or did you conveniently forget that phase of the game? huh.gif


No I did not-he missed ten sitters and twenty two half chances-the supply was never ending. He should be thoroughly ashamed of himself!
mortonjag 2007-08-10 06:46:34
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Aug 9 2007, 06:10 PM) [snapback]313014[/snapback]
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 100k we would be insane to pay them that greedy barstewards know that the chairman loves this kid but ffs even the manager stated that we were offering over the odds and I for one agree with him. put it to bed move on there are better for less out there. Anyway 85000 is in the region of 100k lets face it not far off.

Five words say it all.
mortonjag 2007-08-10 06:50:12
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 9 2007, 06:15 PM) [snapback]313017[/snapback]
People keep saying this, but I really doubt we could get anyone great for 100k. Looking over the last couple of seasons the best players in those two positions have been Chris Innes and Steve Tosh. We couldn't get either of them so we need to stick to achievable targets.


Chocolate Boy, ye ken a fair bit aboot the fitba-gie's a swatch at yer CV.
mortonjag 2007-08-10 06:54:59
QUOTE(kingtiffin @ Aug 9 2007, 06:51 PM) [snapback]313028[/snapback]
well my statement comes true who picks the team who runs the club whos balls whos park who pays the wages cant youse all see jm is a puppet and going back to playing players out of position i told you .you wont get away with it in this league oh and by the way mr romanov at the bottom of sinclair street its his team he will do what he wants and does not answer to no one and even has a control on mr roger graham what can go and and what cant go in...........

make up your own assumptions jm will be gone very shortly... and will get all the blame........as sweetie monsters knows better.

Our Father who art in 'Windrush'
Douglas be thy name
Thy kingdom come
Thy will be done in Scapa
As it is at Golden Casket
Give us this day three players
And forgive us our impatience
As we forgive your silence
Lead us not into Division two
But deliver us to the SPL
For thine is the stadium, the squad, and the money
FOR EVER AND EVER

AMEN
mortonjag 2007-08-10 06:56:59
QUOTE(GMC @ Aug 9 2007, 06:57 PM) [snapback]313033[/snapback]
Why would JM run the whole club? Why would JM own the balls? Why would JM own the park? Why would JM pay the wages?

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JM has no balls-that's why he was chosen.
mortonjag 2007-08-10 07:06:28
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 9 2007, 07:31 PM) [snapback]313057[/snapback]
Me, I can see why people think that maybe we would be better spending the money elsewhere. I agree up to a point, maybe we could sign a few journeymen who would keep us safely in this division. It just depends on our ambition.

I see McGowan as a cut above a player to keep us in the 1st division. He's a player fit for the SPL if that's where we want to be and maybe he's worth that bit extra. The manager has not been able to find anyone better imho and for a few thousand more he appears to be available.

He made a big impression here, especially in the first half of last season at the age of 19. He's only 20 now and by the age of 24 he might be one we can sell for a lot of money. In the meantime he's a better forward than anything I have seen in the first division so far - at least as good as anything Dundee had especially the two big tadgers upfront - would they cut it in the SPL?. Who saw the goals McGowan scored in Ireland?

Mr Rae, you can't live forever. If you want to see Morton in the SPL its chequebook time! We might not do it this time, but Paul McGowan would be a serious building block!

You're losing your f*ckin' marbles.

Gowsa ran about like a headless chicken at times last season-he was also utterly brilliant in flashes.

See the whole picture-Celtic ain't daft-he still has quite a way to go, but AYE Shoogly will blow the last 5p on his wee favourite and TOTALLY BELIEVE the fans will love him for it.

He will then sack JM in November or December, as likely as not, to save face.

Don't get me wrong, if McGowan comes here and hauls this fragmented squad up by the bootlaces, I'll be the first to eat humble pie, but HOW LIKELY IS IT THAT HE WILL?
mortonjag 2007-08-10 07:10:23
QUOTE(kingtiffin @ Aug 9 2007, 08:22 PM) [snapback]313093[/snapback]
THE Paul McGowan transfer saga may not be dead. As revealed in later editions of yesterday's SportTimes, Morton had an £80,000 bid for the Celtic reserve knocked back.

That came five days after the Ton's initial offer of £65,000 was rebuffed.

However, it is believed the Parkhead club will accept a bid in the region of £100,000 for 20-year-old Gowser.

advertisementMorton chairman Douglas Rae has not shied away from shelling out in the past when he believes a player is worth paying top dollar for.

The Greenock supremo paid £50,000 for Alex Williams from Stirling Albion in 2002, while in 2004 Rae is believed to have splashed out around £125,000 for Chris Templeman from Brechin.

And with Celtic claiming the offer was "still well short" it may be a similar bid is required to land McGowan, who signed a new two-year deal at Parkhead this year.

OR CANT DOUGIE GET THE LID OF THE SWEETIE JAR

FOR THE KNOBBYS OF THE FORUM PAY UP OR SHUT UP

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mortonjag 2007-08-10 07:12:01
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 9 2007, 08:55 PM) [snapback]313113[/snapback]
On the transfer, I'm not ungrateful Douglas Rae is willing to spend decent money on a decent player. What concerns me is that he's doing it against his manager's wishes as McInally said the deal was dead. Not only does that make McInally look daft it also shows that Rae isn't the businessman he thinks he is as he's basically giving Celtic the edge by showing how desperate he is to sign McGowan.

The truth is gradually dawning JT

Sugar Daddy IS GMFC


END OF.
mortonjag 2007-08-10 07:14:43
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 9 2007, 11:31 PM) [snapback]313192[/snapback]
Sorry Tonsilitis but one man (or boy) won't give you success at any professional level . We have too many deficencies in our present team . Teams would simply double up on McGowan he would have a big price tag and a reputation . Where last year he was on loan learning his trade .
I can't say thanks Mr Rae as I don't feel that money is being utilised to the full . Will the money just not be added to our debt from Golden Casket ?
Lets not get hung up on what strikers everyone else has , you have to look at the teams not just individuals .

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Don't be silly-the sponsorship of Millions on the players shirts has, in one season, increased sales enough to buy two Gowsas, and a new typewriter for the Commercial Office.
mortonjag 2007-08-10 07:22:34
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 10 2007, 05:13 AM) [snapback]313311[/snapback]
I was really wanting to buy one of the new tops for going to Cuba next week but no way do I want to risk £40 after reading all the bad press.

I don't blame the club here although they should maybe have made a statement by now and pleaded the fans case to Bukta on our behalf.

Poor stuff.

I happened to notice that Bukta is the choice at Dundee's commercial shop. They've always had a good reputation. I can't understand how this seems to have gone 'pear shaped'. OK it was rushed through-they must still take the blame, but we know what caused the rush.
mortonjag 2007-08-10 07:30:45
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Aug 9 2007, 07:27 PM) [snapback]313056[/snapback]
i might have a wee look around govanhill next week, see what's going on. i've noticed the amount of eastern european women selling the big issue lately, and had heard about a big influx of roma in the last couple of years. i wonder if they have any contact with our native roma, so to speak.



Any chance you could drag Jesus away from his 'Brush up your Erse' course, and make him open his f****n' eyes by joining you?
mortonjag 2007-08-10 07:34:35
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Aug 9 2007, 08:22 PM) [snapback]313094[/snapback]
George Galloway article from The Guardian

The eagerly awaited start to the season, after the long long months of a football-free world, is the preserve of a short-lived period of extreme naivety for thousands of over-committed fans up and down the land. But for others it's the time to dust down a well-thumbed hymn book of bile and hatred.

They may have found themselves the victims of abuse last night, but last weekend Rangers FC - twice fined by UEFA for sectarian/offensive behaviour for their away support against Villarreal in March last year and Osasuna earlier this year - were caught singing anti-Catholic songs and chants for the Ulster loyalist paramilitaries while playing Inverness Caledonian Thistle. This just weeks after the Scottish Premier League and Scottish Football Association announced a major crackdown and the powers to deduct points/instigate bans to away supporters, or ultimately expel a team from the league.

What about the Catholic population of Inverness? Thankfully it's not something that's quantified but it's not known as a hotbed of left-footery. Historic enmity between the clubs? Zero, unless you count the fact that the Highland club have offered Rangers a good few beatings in the last few years. And this just a few weeks after Rangers, desperate to be seen to be doing something about the endemic problem of sectarianism, launched their latest campaign to browbeat their supporters into a less vitriolic repertoire of dittys. "Follow with Pride" could be replaced by: "Wallow in Disgrace".

Alan Dick, the SPL delegate to the match at the Tulloch Caledonian Stadium, confirmed that Rangers supporters' "unacceptable" chants will be included in his report, which arrived at Hampden yesterday. Last year Alan Dick was involved in a similar report after a Rangers-Aberdeen game at Ibrox. It's not just the away support as often reported. The incident prompted the SPL and leading police officers to say they were keen to implement a "zero tolerance" policy on sectarianism next season. There's no sign of that.

We're now faced with the unlikely prospect of an ex-Rangers player - Gordon Smith - clamping down on his own former club. Poor Smith has been pontificating (if you pardon the religious connotation of this term) on diving or "simulation", a laudable aim. But it's one that pales into insignificance when it's put next to the disgraceful reality of hundreds or thousands of fans openly hurling sectarian abuse across the Highland air on the opening day of the season.

It will be the first test of the charter introduced by the SPL last month in the cause of fighting sectarianism and discrimination within Scottish football. Iain Blair, the league's secretary, said: "Alan's report will be examined and, if there is a case to answer, it will be referred to an independent commission under a legal chairman."

The Rangers community inhabits the land where time stood still. In a secular age (memo to Rangers fans - nobody cares about this any more) this level of internecine religious fighting among supposed Christian sects is bizarre in the extreme. Last week the British army withdrew from Northern Ireland. Gerry Adams and Ian Paisley work together. The paramilitaries that are celebrated are in retirement homes, dead or running municipal waste sorting offices via Stormont. We even have the delicious irony of John Smeaton - web hero and scourge of religious extremism - being a Rangers fan.

Two final points are worth mentioning about Rangers, this putrefying incubus on the beautiful game. The club's response is to try to evade censure by banning its own fans from away matches - which amounts to denying other clubs an income and denying its own decent fans the ability to support the team. It's like covering a cancerous skin growth with a (presumably red, white and blue) neck scarf. The club frequently cites all the great things it is doing to overturn the problem. Yet only a few years ago it was milking it by selling commemorative Orange tops to celebrate its then Dutch manager. Also, the seats in the main stand were recently coloured in a massive Union flag.

Secondly, much of this could be remedied if the police were directed to enforce the law. If we can pick out a coin thrower from a stand of 10,000 people we can surely identify bigots, in particular those who raise their hands in an "Ulster Salute" as if in answer to the question of the day: "Who wants to be nicked for being a bigot?"

How would a Premiership team be treated whose fans repeatedly engaged in racist chanting and singing? The full range of the law would be brought down on them and they would be rightly shunned in civilised society. Rangers should not be allowed to dictate the terms of the response to a culture they have created.

They should be docked points and then - if the problem persists - kicked out of the league.



That from the man who wanted to sook Rula's Poosy on BB
What a bandwagon jumping creep-that c*nt would desecrate the day of judgement for a threepenny bit.
mortonjag 2007-08-10 07:36:43
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Aug 9 2007, 12:31 PM) [snapback]312919[/snapback]
A 150 km2 solar farm with in Nevada would provide the USA with its total electricity requirements....

THAT'S IMPRESSIVE!
mortonjag 2007-08-10 07:39:11
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Aug 9 2007, 12:38 PM) [snapback]312923[/snapback]
branwell bronte, brother of charlotte, anne and emily, was determined to prove wrong the belief that people could not die standing up. on his deathbed, he made his servant prop him against his mantlepiece, where he successfully died standing up.


...after which, his penis was quickly embalmed as lasting proof.
mortonjag 2007-08-10 07:42:41 Mortonjag-started off because of my car and I knew I'd be accused of supporting Plastic Whistle!

Now I guess I NEEDLE everybody, so it's quite appropriate!
mortonjag 2007-08-10 07:44:16 I'll resurrect the thread! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-10 10:05:37
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Aug 10 2007, 09:04 AM) [snapback]313359[/snapback]
Mortonjag....PLEASE. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. USE THE ADD REPLY BUTTON AND REPLY ALL THE ONE POST FORFUXAKE! FORFUXAKE! ARHGHGHGH! YOU'VE RUINED THIS THREAD AND YOU'RE RUINING THIS MESSAGEBOARD, ARGHGHGHGHGHGHGHHHHHHH! FUXAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sad.gif

(posted on other thread - can they be merged?)
Totally agree with you, as I said on the other Paul McGowan thread (Why this new one!?!?) This is total machismo and "I"ll get my man".

If he pulls it off, well done Mr Rae, but what people are getting miffed about is the way, yet again, that it's been handled, and what it does for our reputation in the transfer market, ie. we are money-throwing saps.

Good player...a LOT of money.

I'd welcome the signing though, but I'm extremely concerned that Jim McInally thought we should have stopped at 50k and Dougie blundered on himself to this amount.

Jim should be deciding who he wants and how much to pay, surely.

This will have agents everywhere putting Douglas Rae and Morton in their notebooks as sitting ducks, mark my words.

If he is signing though, good luck Gowser - I think he's a player who could go places. Who knows, could end up a sound investment by the chairman, but McGowan would have to develop at a fast rate.

You've got some cheek victimising a poor old soul who doesn't understand those new fangled gadgets-if you spell it out I'll see what I can do, but I think it's more civilised to reply individually.

BTW-any chance of removing that ridiculous list of links to silly choons-it really does my f*ckin' nut in? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-10 10:33:00 div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->He has an empire with a £30 million annual turnover seems like a good buisness man to me.[/quote]



He's a relatively successful SMALL business man who sells the likes of those to a 'Nation of Sweetieholics'.


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What on earth makes you imagine he can run a football club?

BTW-those figures you quoted? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-10 11:51:37
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Aug 10 2007, 10:31 AM) [snapback]313408[/snapback]
Six ridiculous links? I think you'll live.

Right, each post that you want to reply to, you click the "quote" button underneath said post, ok?

You can add as many as you like. Then, you click "Add Reply".

Your message box will come up, with all the quotes you want to comment on within it.

You then just add your comments below each one. Trust me, people will like you a lot more. smile.gif

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BUT I promise to try! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-10 11:53:12
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 10 2007, 11:49 AM) [snapback]313458[/snapback]
A good striker would create chances, would he not?
Considering we has three up front as well.
He is not a striker.
You are wrong again. tongue.gif


A striker by definition strikes-five 'A's. and must have shagged his English teacher! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-10 11:56:39
QUOTE(Carl Bertelson @ Aug 10 2007, 09:24 AM) [snapback]313370[/snapback]
So we buy Williams for £50k and then spend god knows how much bailing out is gambling debts , allegedly.

We pay £100k for Templeman only to discover the big man can't jump or run fast.

We offer £80k for McGowan knowing full well he's not worth it( J McInally quote) and allegedly are about to up our offer.
So that adds up to a grand total, not including the more modest signings, of £230k over, lets be kind, and say 5 years.

Lets just say we can't count either and call it a nice round quarter of a million.

We get rid of a perfectly good youth system which cost us £60k a year to run, expensive I know but I'm sure some savings could have been made. So lets use Dougie mathematics once more and call it £50k.

That means we could have run a very professional youth system for 5 years which may, and I do say may, have produced 3 or 4 players equally as good or maybe even better than what we have bought so far.

Surely Dougie, even you can see the logic. All this short term planning is/will come back to haunt us. Let's have a long term strategic plan Dougie that will sustain the club for years to come not just as long as your alive.

You know that makes sense, and I believe that secretly far more agree than care to admit it.
It just seems that half of Inverclyde's up Rae's arse when it comes to going public.
mortonjag 2007-08-10 12:00:09
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 10 2007, 11:16 AM) [snapback]313428[/snapback]
Thing is though, McInally hasn't gone to him and said okay I'll have 'player x' instead!

RLY rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-10 12:05:28
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 10 2007, 11:56 AM) [snapback]313471[/snapback]
No protest.
Harding looks far better with Weatherson alongside him.
And when McLaughin returns, Weatherson will need a place.
Problem solved. unsure.gif

Harding will never fulfil his potential with Stu as his partner-Stu needs somebody to play BEHIND him as a sweeper-he's too single minded to work in a centre back pair.

As you say, Harding looks fine alongside another footballer.

Stu is great at what he does well.
mortonjag 2007-08-10 12:09:07
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 10 2007, 11:47 AM) [snapback]313455[/snapback]
He is sh*te ya big girl's blouse. tongue.gif
Oops, thought it was the insult thread as well. laugh.gif



No he's NOT s***e VT.

If you care to trawl back, though, you'll see the torrent of abuse I got for trying to highlight his failings AND good points. (Kevin Finlayson-saint or sinner).

Some of the comments made about me were very similar to those made now about my perception of the Shoogly Show.

Mortonjag knows his onions Sonny Boy.
mortonjag 2007-08-10 12:11:32
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 10 2007, 11:35 AM) [snapback]313436[/snapback]
Finlayson and McAnespie look as if they are out for Saturdays match with Dunfermline, after having nearly 2yrs of a virtually injury free squad we sure are making up for it now.

Another Morton myth blown-a virtually injury free season was down to JM's fantastic training regime sheer good luck.
mortonjag 2007-08-10 12:14:33
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Aug 10 2007, 11:53 AM) [snapback]313468[/snapback]
Right, I give up!

FFS gie's a chance-don't ever open a driving school-am I supposed to read to the bottom of every thread, even if there are twenty posts. I'll keep trying-I promised!
mortonjag 2007-08-10 12:21:15
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 10 2007, 12:17 PM) [snapback]313491[/snapback]
They're actually turnips. tongue.gif

That, Sonny Boy, is SPAM! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-10 12:23:35
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 10 2007, 11:58 AM) [snapback]313473[/snapback]
Don't be so crude, you filthy old man. ohmy.gif
Then why did no-one strike when Roy spilled a shot just berore 2-0? huh.gif
A real striker would at least have had a go.
We tried to pass it in the net.

Happens all the time-why the protest? unsure.gif


I didn't have my binoculars VT-did somebody miss ONE chance-FFS even McGraw missed chances!
mortonjag 2007-08-10 12:25:33
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 10 2007, 12:19 PM) [snapback]313493[/snapback]
By next week it'll be:
"We must pray to God" says McInally. dry.gif

...instead of always addressing him with 'Whatever you say Mr Rae'.
mortonjag 2007-08-10 12:32:09
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 10 2007, 08:39 AM) [snapback]313350[/snapback]
Cheers Arkle. Brutal stuff all right, and none of it with easy answers. It also seems to be the Roma who are getting really bad press and a hard time in Ireland just now as well strangely enough, with an entire community of them setting up on a roundabout on the country's busiest road ! Unfortunately they are not doing a whole lot ot ingratiate themselves with the community they're joining. There's also a lot of simmering tension in a lot of the larger towns and cities with a lot of the Eastern European immigrants (there's about 400,000 of them in Ireland just now) but for whatever reason (and I tend to think it's their work ethic and desire to adapt to the community) the Polish people seem to be getting by relatively trouble free, both in terms of press and trouble.

There's a major job of work ahead for the countries who are receiving these people, but there's also nothing that should get in the way of the powers at be cracking down hard on issues like child prostituion which is completely abhorrent regardless of race.

I was watching some show on Ch4 I think it was a few weeks back in Slough England, where the Eastern europeans were getting it tight from the long term English, AND the first and second generation blacks, Indians, Asians and Africans ! Pretty surreal to hear an African woman with broken English telling the camera crew that the Eastern Europeans should be "sent back home where they belong". Again I quote Eugene O'Neill from his "Moon For THe Misbegotten", and it applies equally outside Eire, "In Ireland there is no present or future, just the past - repating itself over and over again".

But there is no easy answer, and unless one is found, and found quickly, the outcome could see us lead inexorably to something far worse - I genuinely fear a fourth reich.

TonInDublin

But when Mortonjag told you that before you watched TV (which of course MUST be right), you branded him a racist, and now you're saying we need to find an answer to a problem you were denying existed about three weeks ago. Strange person you are Jesus. Trying to be all things to all people just doesn't work-the last one got crucified for his troubles.
mortonjag 2007-08-10 12:34:46
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Aug 10 2007, 09:09 AM) [snapback]313364[/snapback]
"MortonJag averages 14 posts....per day."

...and helps others to boost their post counts.
mortonjag 2007-08-10 12:38:35
QUOTE(dazed @ Aug 10 2007, 09:10 AM) [snapback]313365[/snapback]
Im not sure I cant remember!

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mortonjag 2007-08-10 12:39:52
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 10 2007, 10:39 AM) [snapback]313414[/snapback]
Was quite pissed and drinking a can of BlackThorn when I registered....

How many does it take now?
mortonjag 2007-08-10 12:42:14
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 10 2007, 11:27 AM) [snapback]313433[/snapback]
As long as they comply with the construction and use regulations, what's the problem?

Unacceptable noise and reduced energy efficiency!
mortonjag 2007-08-10 12:44:28
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 10 2007, 12:24 PM) [snapback]313498[/snapback]
Did you have your specs as well?
And the guide dug? rolleyes.gif
Believe me - with her it doesn't happen all the time. wink.gif

So glad she's a 'her' and you're it's only infrequently.
mortonjag 2007-08-10 12:49:50
QUOTE(big B @ Aug 10 2007, 12:31 PM) [snapback]313507[/snapback]
Where in my posts does it say I said he is good at running a football club ? all I said was he is good in buisness I think you need to read the content of a post before replying.

I always read the context of the post-and in this case the subsequent one where you gave the 'old hat' about how poor Shoogly 'can't win'.

I take it then that you agree with me that he's crap at running Greenock Morton. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-10 15:11:18
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 10 2007, 12:48 PM) [snapback]313526[/snapback]
I'd doubt its that regular either. rolleyes.gif

WTF are you blabbering about-did you shag your English teacher or not?
mortonjag 2007-08-10 15:15:46
QUOTE(simplyton @ Aug 10 2007, 02:20 PM) [snapback]313597[/snapback]
I've not met anyone who thought our relatively injury-free season was down to anything other than luck
or am I being naive at another excuse to have a sarcastic pop at JM?

Get out and about more.
mortonjag 2007-08-10 15:17:25
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 10 2007, 10:50 AM) [snapback]313420[/snapback]
Outstanding post !!!!! Cork City have invested big time in their U21 set up - net result ?
Around 5 million in sales in the last 3 years including O'Donovan to Sunderland, Doyle and Long at Reading, Danny Murphy etc etc - all with lucrative longer term negotiated deals and more revenue stream based on appearances, international caps etc. The O'Donovan deal is about 1 Million euro off the bat !

Kildare County's U21's reached the semi final of the U21 cup last year, and they are again hoping to make money on a lot of their younger lads, and most other Irish clubs have excellent academies in place from U11's all the way up to senior. They know the value of youth to their future profitability and success on the field.

Hardly rocket science I wouldn't think !

Hibs are another great example !!!!

TonInDublin

When somebody agrees with Jesus-he sure is complimentary! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-10 15:20:22
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 10 2007, 03:17 PM) [snapback]313625[/snapback]
Have you ever considered those boys training and development has stalled over the 2 seasons when the players have taken over responsibilty . They were novices hadn't a coaching badge between them when they started . Had no experience in running such a set up and got little or no help from the senior coaching staff .
Still after 2 years there is still no medical equipment carried by the teams or even water bottles . Compare that with Hamilton 's by comparison .


Don't think Stan Webster's heard a 'Dicky Bird' yet Chris!
mortonjag 2007-08-10 15:27:11 Is it official then-will Gowsa score three at Dunfermline and Mortonjag will love him forever?
mortonjag 2007-08-10 15:29:34
QUOTE(Lovedaddy @ Aug 10 2007, 03:22 PM) [snapback]313631[/snapback]
Couple more seasons and we could recoup all that money if we sold Jim Mcallistar. He is constantly improving and from what ive heard has been watched by several clubs.

Is Mcallistar from the Youth system?

Nope
mortonjag 2007-08-10 15:37:19 If others are to be believed, the signing of Gowza is imminent, in which case I expect us to stroll this-in fact I expect us to stroll the season, scoring a record number of goals (95% from Gowza of course), and conceding twelve (in the two games where he misses out for not saluting Mr Rae's Yorkie).
mortonjag 2007-08-10 15:44:56
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 10 2007, 11:40 AM) [snapback]313447[/snapback]
Actually, Galloway has been advocating such measures for years - before BB and after BB.

He also saluted his (now) deid hero with that wonderful neologism!

Just another example of his pragmatic amorality.

As I said-bandwagon jumper par excellence.

Oh and VERY entertaining BB contestant if it hadn't been SO ridiculously misplaced.
mortonjag 2007-08-10 15:48:38
QUOTE(Robert the Bruce @ Aug 10 2007, 12:58 PM) [snapback]313536[/snapback]
Correct a big bore exhaust is more efficient. Its the Corsa's going at 15 mph and sounding like a Tornado jet that gets on my nerves.

Properly designed exhaust systems increase energy efficiency, but as you suggest RTB, blowing half the BHP of a tiny engine out four holes half the size of the motor is a complete nonsense.
mortonjag 2007-08-10 15:51:45 Douglas Rae's first name is not Douglas.
mortonjag 2007-08-10 15:58:59
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 10 2007, 03:26 PM) [snapback]313634[/snapback]
..... now where's that ignore button again !!!!

I'm not getting into this with you MJ. There's a huge difference between what I'm saying above (which by the way is pretty much what I said then), and the emotions you were trying to elicit both here and on the AMHS board.

For the record, once more - I don't know of your specific plight. I don't live there. I don't walk in your shoes. I have said that since day dot of this argument. All there in black and white.

I asked arklesTON and Davie for some background info to help me understand what the situation was and they've been good enough to get me that. That helps a lot.

At the time of this post's inception (and several others you tried to sway towards your bidding), I told you that I didn't think you were being overtly or deliberately racist, but you were being disingenuous by covertly preparing the ground for others to fire in with their own brand of vitriole. In doing that you did them a disservice and dishonoured yourself.

Enjoy your fourth term when it comes Mein Oberst.

That is all.

Right now,

You Have Chosen To Ignore All Posts By ....... ahhhhh, bliss.

TonInDublin

What was written by both parties is still there for all to see. You have again repeated a blatantly libellous accusation, before scurrying off under the huff button.

I've crossed swords with almost every poster at one time or another. You are the first I've genuinely regarded as an unbelievably self satisfied and despicable piece of vermin.
mortonjag 2007-08-10 16:04:24
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 10 2007, 08:23 AM) [snapback]313345[/snapback]
Because I live in Kildare and didn't fancy the moniker TIK, so TonInDublin it became because it was close enough and also most of the original reprobates on Andy's board wouldn't have found Kildare with a map, a dog and a well trained sherpa.

Although as I have often said, TID is slightly better than TIK, and I count my blessings I didn't move to Tipperary.

TonInDublin

How fascinating, and thanks for that! I'm sure the posters have been utterly baffled by your 'haunle'. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-10 16:09:11
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 10 2007, 03:45 PM) [snapback]313649[/snapback]
No still no phone call . Newt is still trying to get the club into first gear from Canada .
Bloody shame MJ .
We will never know if any of Stan's youngsters are good enough but since the Newt was to cover expenses the only harm done would be to Newt's bank account .
As far as I'm aware he wired his Dad the money who is holding it until the club makes a move .

Strachan certainly rates Scott McDonald though! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-10 16:15:22 We are currently experiencing a fault with the main phone line at Cappielow. BT have been advised, and are currently investigating the matter.

When dialling the number 01475 723571, the number rings out, but is not currently ringing here at the Ground, although a limited number of outside calls do seem to be getting through.

Until this fault is remedied, you can contact us by email at info@gmfc.net. We would take this opportunity to apologise for any inconvenience caused.


Guess the wires have burned out with all the signing activity.
mortonjag 2007-08-10 16:17:45
QUOTE(NonTon @ Aug 10 2007, 04:16 PM) [snapback]313665[/snapback]
Yeah, it's Emperor

Incorrect!
mortonjag 2007-08-10 16:19:55
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 10 2007, 04:14 PM) [snapback]313662[/snapback]
Keenan is NOT a midfielder, in the same way the Weatherson isn't a striker, and Paul McGowan isn't a midfielder!



...and Chocolate Boy isn't up his own arse with preconceived ideas and statistics!!!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-10 20:23:14 Funny old game-must stay positive-1-1 unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-10 20:29:09
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 10 2007, 05:48 PM) [snapback]313716[/snapback]
Of course not you perverted old curmudgeon. huh.gif
I was referring to her total shags - nul points I suspect.

I'm a NOT a curmudgeon!

Give me the poor soul's 'phone number-I will fix it for her.
mortonjag 2007-08-10 20:35:32
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Aug 10 2007, 07:43 PM) [snapback]313792[/snapback]
The man is an absolute coklash. An attention seeking satchel.

I tried you're wee trick DT, but couldn't make it work-just wanted to give a big smile to all the sad bast*rds who criticised me for giving important news. Hopefully they will read this.

PS sleep.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-10 20:36:56
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 10 2007, 08:31 PM) [snapback]313828[/snapback]
Every forum needs a raving psychopath - give him peace.
Just put him on ignore if he really bothers you.

Correct VT, and there is no excuse for their laziness. I publish a health warning in my profile.
mortonjag 2007-08-10 20:39:14
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Aug 10 2007, 06:52 PM) [snapback]313742[/snapback]
I think you need to take that advice yourself.

The guy has a point. Let's see what happens. This is when gems get discovered. In a perverse way it's exciting to not see the same old faces every week. Walker has looked good when called upon, others can improve too. You need first team football to show what you can do.

Let's look at the positives and SUPPORT. Looking forward to tomorrow.

Jolly hockey sticks old Chappie.

BTW I ALWAYS give the players 100% support.
mortonjag 2007-08-10 20:43:29
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 10 2007, 07:39 PM) [snapback]313787[/snapback]
Some posters cited during the summer and last season that our injury free run was to do with McInally's training regime .
They seem to be rather quiet at the moment .

It 's been cited umpteen times AND boasted about too!

Sometimes the age difference between posters sticks out a mile!!!

FFS when I was 17 I thought Allan McGraw was 6'6", and the most handsome guy on the planet. I went to Hampden fully expecting to beat Rangers in the League Cup Final-remember it Chris, the same cup we walked out of on Tuesday, dismissing it as 'Mickey Mouse'!!! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-10 20:46:50
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 10 2007, 08:29 PM) [snapback]313824[/snapback]
Run that sentence past me again. blink.gif unsure.gif

I'm not a curmudgeon.
mortonjag 2007-08-10 20:57:23
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 10 2007, 08:50 PM) [snapback]313848[/snapback]
I think this "strengthening" the team thing is perhaps a wee bit wide of the mark. What this signing would do would be to give us the same team as last year, plus MacAnespie.

For summer spendings of over £100k, I would expect far, far more than a young boy who's sole experience is one season in the 2nd Division plus an Alloa player, with no disrespect towards the two. I don't include Shields as he's only here til January, as it stands. I'm sorry, but for that kind of figure we should have been able to have done far far better in the transfer market than just the two bodies.

How much have Thistle spent, I wonder, considering how many signings they've made? Don't really know much about their acquisitions, but still, a lot of bodies nonetheless if you compare it to 100k and still suffering a lack of depth and spine...

EM is it not becoming obvious that when Shoogly said the current squad deserve to take us forward he MEANT IT LITERALLY?

Where JM fits that picture I haven't a clue, but Rae's coming over as a self indulgent old fool who does not give a jot about the fans.
mortonjag 2007-08-10 21:04:16
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 10 2007, 09:01 PM) [snapback]313859[/snapback]
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Cheeky wee brat-that hairy dong thing tried to tell me how to answer 50 quotes at once.

Could you spell it out again for me-I WILL try!
mortonjag 2007-08-10 21:07:17
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 10 2007, 08:53 PM) [snapback]313851[/snapback]
Of all the nouns available to an Anglo-Saxon speaker, and the poor child misses an empty net

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mortonjag 2007-08-10 21:18:00
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Aug 10 2007, 04:23 PM) [snapback]313671[/snapback]
dearie me. i thought you were permanently on the windup? you let the mask slip a wee bit there.

You thought I was permanently on the windup Manky-no you didn't-frequently on the wind up-frequently being deliberately controversial- but NEVER attempting to do what your 'up his own Erse friend' has persistently accused me of.

I've been accused of anti Catholicism (and threatened in pm's because of misunderstanding) but sorted that out with the guys involved.

This is different-I suspect the only solution for your self satisfied little 'Dubliner' will be a climb down by claiming it was all a 'wind up on his part'.

Sorry-despite making my stand on the matter crystal clear with umpteen valid examples from personal experience-he refused to back down.

Don't demean yourself by trying to laugh this off-have a serious think first-when have I EVER reacted like this elsewhere?
mortonjag 2007-08-10 21:26:57
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 10 2007, 08:30 PM) [snapback]313825[/snapback]
All laudable sentiments I'm sure but I wonder if 3000 destitute Roma would be welcomed, received and adopted by the enlightened middle class residents of 'leafier' areas than Govanhill.

Like most of the businessmen in Pollokshields etc., etc., DE. wink.gif

At least you KNOW where I'm coming from on this. I totally agree with Laura, and I know a damned sight more about the NHS than she does. That does not alter the fact that current policy has HUGELY concentrated this influx into relatively small areas, where large numbers are currently UNABLE to benefit our culture, and where the 'sitting tenants' from a wide range of ethnic origins are becoming increasingly uneasy.
mortonjag 2007-08-10 21:38:51
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 10 2007, 09:31 PM) [snapback]313883[/snapback]
Popular choice as well?
Might make it a correct score bet as well.
Better not, plenty of money for the taking the morra.
Btw people, look at:
Hamilton
St Johnstone
Ross County
Dundee
as well tomorrow: the bookies could well be giving away money. ohmy.gif

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mortonjag 2007-08-10 21:45:25
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 10 2007, 08:36 PM) [snapback]313831[/snapback]
Once again that totally contradicts McInally's statement that they were playing the waiting game in the hope of "unearthing a wee gem."

Do they actually talk to each other?

laugh.gif

Going on the (admittedly slim) evidence which has been recorded re the Stan Webster business, the answer may be, 'Very rarely'. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-10 21:49:22
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 10 2007, 09:44 PM) [snapback]313898[/snapback]
ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
Dunfermline's odds are calling me right now.

At least you and Chocolate Boy have one thing in common-neither of you can see Deano for what he really is.

I think you both fancy him-Hell hath no fury etc.
mortonjag 2007-08-10 21:55:24
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 10 2007, 09:52 PM) [snapback]313902[/snapback]
I can see that "Deano" is not a footballer. dry.gif
Such an affectionate little nickname for him - sure there isn't more to your bond? ohmy.gif

I wish I could say 'Yes' but I'm not a paedophile-30's my lower limit for either sex (6 for animals).
mortonjag 2007-08-10 22:56:50
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Aug 10 2007, 06:40 PM) [snapback]313736[/snapback]
My user name is Latin for "Sexiest Ginger Alive". So it seemed quite apt to use it!

Eh- Shagus Gingerus Maximus = that?
mortonjag 2007-08-10 23:03:19
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 10 2007, 11:00 PM) [snapback]313952[/snapback]
Totally agree, Muslim faith schools are another backward step, to move forward we must abolish all faith schools.

May I be permitted to say I concur, or am I being watched from Ersewhere elsewhere?
mortonjag 2007-08-10 23:07:09
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 10 2007, 05:44 PM) [snapback]313711[/snapback]
Who he? unsure.gif

Whit? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-10 23:10:08
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Aug 10 2007, 11:07 PM) [snapback]313962[/snapback]
There was a muslim-only school in Govan until a few years back, it was closed by HM Schools inspectors as it didnt meet the desired standards, and according to a few Asians that i knew, it had a lot of bogus teachers who were using it as a means to getting a visa into the UK.

I have nothing against Muslims wanting private schools of their own, as long as the children receive a proper education and my taxes arent paying for them.


What KIND of schools Arky-seminaries ain't schools-schools are about education-churches/mosques are about religion.
mortonjag 2007-08-10 23:11:44
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 10 2007, 11:07 PM) [snapback]313965[/snapback]
The deid hero? unsure.gif
The only one I can think of would be Jesus.

FFS have I killed him-I take it all back-a mere child he was.
mortonjag 2007-08-10 23:24:38
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Aug 10 2007, 11:13 PM) [snapback]313972[/snapback]
it was called Iqra Academy, and was housed in the old Bellahouston Annexe on the Paisley Road West.

I remember-closed down on the advice of HM inspectorate. I'm not sure where you're coming from Arky-you clearly have much more insight than the average Inverclyder. Schools were traditionally part and parcel of the religion of the individual country, but this is the 21st century. Religion (fairy stories if you will) has no place in education IMO.
mortonjag 2007-08-11 06:50:26 Hi Iain,

Hope you had a good time.
Boys in at Ibrox on Monday, they flew out to Scotland on Wednesday,got
another couple of Scottish premier league clubs interested if nothing
happens at Rangers.
Also hope to send another 2 boys to England in a few weeks.
Never heard anything from Morton.

Regards
Stan.

Above is an e-mail sent from Stan Webster, Scott McDonald's Australian coach, to newTon, today.

It is now exactly six weeks to the day, since Douglas Rae was personally e-mailed with an offer of first refusal of Stan Webster's players.

Three days later Shoogly claimed he was 'delighted' and described the bonus of $40,000 to assist with accommodation as 'Brilliant'.

The club claimed on several occasions that JM would contact Stan, and prior to the Morecambe game Mr Rae stated that he would speak to the manager about it.


Yesterday the club reported to NewTon that they 'Had heard nothing from Stan Webster'!!!

Take from this what you undoubtedly will.

I find it totally mystifying, but that's not unusual with the Shoogly show.
mortonjag 2007-08-11 06:55:45
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 11 2007, 06:49 AM) [snapback]314077[/snapback]
Bloody supporters wanting new tops before Christmas !!
Perhaps the design of these tops are a reflection of the clubs management .
A bit vague tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2007-08-11 06:58:30
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Aug 10 2007, 07:43 PM) [snapback]313792[/snapback]
The man is an absolute coklash. An attention seeking satchel.

laugh.gif

I love your expressions.

BTW more attention seeking today-I've made up a big story about an Australian football Coach-JUST FOR YOU! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-11 06:59:51
QUOTE(honosthemis @ Aug 10 2007, 10:19 PM) [snapback]313925[/snapback]
Stop making excuses for the c***. hes a f***ing boring arsehole and theres hunnerz of people ignoring his s***e posts cos hes a f***ing f****y. Hinks hes better than everybody with his big words and s***e talk. Wish he wid just f*** off and gie the rest of us peace the boring b*****d.

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mortonjag 2007-08-11 07:01:50
QUOTE(honosthemis @ Aug 10 2007, 10:27 PM) [snapback]313931[/snapback]
Not even drinking mate. Just cannae stand that f***ing idiot MJ and his drivvel.

Did you look that last word up in a dictionary or just copy it from one of the adults' posts?
mortonjag 2007-08-11 07:05:00
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 10 2007, 10:47 PM) [snapback]313944[/snapback]
At least MJ is popular with his postie at Christmas . With all the folk who can't stand the jag on here there's little chance of his local postie slipping a disc .

I never get mail any more Chrissiboi-I feel totally ostracised, and highly empathic with Stan Webster!
mortonjag 2007-08-11 07:12:53
QUOTE(kingtiffin @ Aug 10 2007, 11:35 PM) [snapback]313988[/snapback]
no gordon greer is from clydebank he was offered with phil cannie at the time port juniors won league cup double 1999
season but were told not good enough and the rest is history . But if you look at local youngsters who are playing in the fringes of top teams in premier division its scary when none have came through the shambolic youth system morton have had last 3 years which mr rae says is running ok . but local paper will not slate him on this incase they cant report ton matches scared incase the get barred. did not know he had shares in the tele .

I'd suggest that as the nail is now clearly in the coffin of the offer of Australian talent, that story might be of interest to a bigger newspaper than the 'Tilly'.

Two of his lads playing trials at Ibrox next week, Scott McDonald an established Aussie 'Tim', and Stan Webster totally blanked by the Mighty Morton of Greenock Town.

SERIOUSLY tempted.
mortonjag 2007-08-11 07:30:00
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 11 2007, 06:21 AM) [snapback]314074[/snapback]
It just makes you wonder what avenues the club (Dougie) explored before deciding to pay this astronomical fee for a newly promoted club .
It just looks like there are bargain buys out there , with guys who have got a good record at this level .



I'm getting more disgusted by the day with the posters who keep ranting on about Shoogly being an 'astute and successful businessman'.

He makes and sells sweeties of the Reliant Robin rather than Rolls Royce variety, and his company is viable.

WHAT THE f*** HAS THAT GOT TO DO WITH RUNNING A FOOTBALL CLUB?

The evidence is rapidly mounting-five years on and we've struggled into division 1 with resources vastly superior to all except Gretna.

It's crystal clear that EVERYTHING at GMFC is under his direct control-I firmly believe that JM is effectively a puppet-why else would the current squad debacle ever have occurred?

What does the rest of the Board think-DO they think at all?

The signing of McGowan was clearly in God's plans from day one-sure he thought it would be good publicity and attract fans, but primarily God just loves watching wee Gowsa.

Our Father who art in 'Windrush', indeed.
mortonjag 2007-08-11 08:10:15
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 10 2007, 11:48 PM) [snapback]313998[/snapback]
Well done you remembered something better than a guy with front and rear lobe brain damage.

You should be so proud. smile.gif



ThornTON, please accept my humblest apologies if I have ever offended you in the slightest.

I honestly believed you were simply an arrrogant, dismissive and self opinionated child. I'm ashamed-the symptoms were staring me in the face.

How could a man of my experience have missed the fact that you are brain damaged?

I suspect you were a delightful lad and winsome companion prior to this tragic pathology.
mortonjag 2007-08-11 08:22:52
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 11 2007, 06:39 AM) [snapback]314076[/snapback]
If McGowan were to sign on for 100k , would Dougie still offer them a sell on fee ?
What would happen in a years time if McGowan wasn't happy with his lot here and some SPL mob made an offer . There is no way we'd recoup that money if we had to pay Celtic a chunk of the fee .
What is the best we could hope for , from McGowan if he did sign . Many even the ones who think that money would be well spent haven't exactly been shouting we'll win the league .
Would the same or better outcome not also be possible spending similar on several players who have been over the course .

There's a long season ahead-we can still sort this out but I suspect we won't. Rae is proving to be a clasical example of why Chairmen of Football clubs must delegate.

The truth is slowly percolating through the thick skulls of the sycophant Shooglyphiles. Morton FC are at best stagnating-a youth policy has been deliberately abandoned-an inefficient and seemingly gutless manager appears to bend to the wishes of the master at every turn.

I'm being VERY negative-this is POSITIVELY disgraceful.
mortonjag 2007-08-11 08:27:36
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 11 2007, 07:35 AM) [snapback]314092[/snapback]
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I have to disagree with you comparing yourself to a certain Australian football coach
Come off it MJ Stan Webster gets lots of outside contact ...
It's just not from GMFC thats all ...
Perhaps Dougie has put him on ignore mad.gif

Many a true word spoken in jest Chris-who IS the villain of the piece-DID JM ever hear anything from the man who claims we don't need a youth policy?

Will we EVER know the truth. Somebody does! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-11 08:32:42
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 11 2007, 07:37 AM) [snapback]314093[/snapback]
I can see this thread dropping like a stone .

There's been very little interest from the word go Chris-I said of the Shooglyphile brigade months ago-'They hate us when we tell the truth'.

I'm ever optimistic on Match days-I still love my Morton, and always get behind the lads on the pitch, but should Dunfermline show us up today, expect a backlash of similar proportions to that after the last away game at Stirling.

The IQ of the average fan is at best average.
mortonjag 2007-08-11 08:41:57
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 11 2007, 07:53 AM) [snapback]314094[/snapback]
I agree . Dougie has got a reputation that he will get his man come hell or high water . His only concern seems to be with the foward line .
If Dougie likes to watch attractive attacking football why does he persevere with McInally ?
Is that why we have struggled to reach this pinnacle because Dougie knows best above that of the so called professionals he employs to do that job .
I wonder how DDFR would have coped with a personality like Tommy Docherty . I have read some managers don't even let the chairman into the dressing room nevermind tell them who they should play or buy .
Perhaps Alexander had a point a few years back ?but I guess it's easier to heap the blame on outsiders than to believe that someones best intentions could hold the club back.

I'm led to believe McGraw barred Shoogly from the dressing room. He wasn't the best manager, but he was far from the worst-he feels unwelcome at Cappielow now-sad when you think he's the most prolific scorer in our club's history, and a cripple because of his determination always to do his best for us. Apparently he was just a pawn in the whole sad Rae-Scott-McGraw saga.
Seems that crossing Mr Rae may be very dangerous if he has any hold over you!
mortonjag 2007-08-11 08:49:50
QUOTE(TonGa @ Aug 11 2007, 08:40 AM) [snapback]314108[/snapback]
You really are a w*nker!

Such profundity in the light of the nature of the thread!

You may, of course, give a detailed breakdown of the reasoning which led to that conclusion.

I was simply trying to say politely that many of our posters appear to be as thick as a doorpost. If the cap fits, wear it.
mortonjag 2007-08-11 08:52:25
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 11 2007, 08:28 AM) [snapback]314103[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Aug 10 2007, 07:17 PM) [snapback]313760[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->With our current squad it is unforgivable for us not to look to the SPL for loan signings, the 1st Division was riddled with them last year sad.gif
JM can't attract anyone bar Nappy Rashers to sign for us and folk on here expect him to have the ability to get SPL loan signings.

That's something he should have been looking at since last January but no not JM.

Is it true that a 'For Sale' sign has appeared in Mr Rae's front garden Willow?
mortonjag 2007-08-11 08:56:52
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 11 2007, 08:51 AM) [snapback]314114[/snapback]
I think its easier to believe that God of the Almighty Fudgy Wudgy is all good and everyone else is an instigator trying to steal the souls of the faithful support .
I said before Hugh Scott is still doing the devils work as fear of the unknown stops many from asking questions from the head rather than the heart .
My IQ is probably on a par with your monkey so I don't see that as a major factor .
I am dismayed but not surprised that no other posters have replied to this thread .

Don't get carried away with yourself!!
mortonjag 2007-08-11 09:10:05
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 11 2007, 12:34 AM) [snapback]314036[/snapback]
Indeed, at Glasgow Airport.
Of course, he's still a bandwagon-jumper (the Gospel acording to Mortonjag) dry.gif rolleyes.gif

Galloway is a highly intelligent megalomanic and egocentric arsehole IMHO.

Mind you if Shoogly can con half of our posters, I'm not surprised some credit him with near Deity.
mortonjag 2007-08-11 09:15:57
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 11 2007, 09:05 AM) [snapback]314119[/snapback]
I agree no matter what my personal thoughts about Allan as manager . He alwats did his best for the club he loved . Its tragic that he feels uncomfortable in a place he has spent so much time .
Well all suffered under Scott so why this continued coldness towards McGraw . Perhaps he is the one person who is still seen as Mr Morton above Dougie .
Old Shoogily has no hold over me I don't even have a sweet tooth so depriving me of a fudgy wudgy will have no effect . Just hope he doesn't take over the Distillery of The Isle of Jura or I may have to rollover like a puppy . laugh.gif


Ha-you like a good malt-how long do they take to mature Chris-about the same time as a professional footballer and not ideal for drinking 'til the time's ripe.
mortonjag 2007-08-11 09:18:43
QUOTE(HamCam @ Aug 11 2007, 09:02 AM) [snapback]314118[/snapback]
Reason that folk may have not replied is because they may prefer to hear both sides of the issue or even maybe they are still in bed.

If true very disappointing. In the past Morton have been innovaters with the Danes and Finns. We even set ourselves up with the Aussies when the Chuckle Bros got a chance at glory.

I expect the take on it will be that the managment had other priorities.

Hey ho off to Dumfy we go more in hope than expectation.

Every piece of correspondence has been saved HC-rest assured it IS true and it has NOT been spun in any way.
mortonjag 2007-08-11 09:21:53
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 11 2007, 09:10 AM) [snapback]314120[/snapback]
Well I have 1.8 % of human DNA , so I guess thats what lowers my score

IQ's don't really count for much in the big bad world Chris, but when silly wee boys describe me as a 'w*nker' with no further comment, I do get upset. I may well have had the odd masturbatory moment, but I'd hardly say that's newsworthy. This thread certainly is!
mortonjag 2007-08-11 10:39:01
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Aug 11 2007, 09:55 AM) [snapback]314137[/snapback]
Aye - ye can throw in a couple of Kevin Thomas's for good measure dry.gif

BTW Chrissiboi - would you try this ? ........................... shut yer eyes.................... think some happy thoughts................. (come on there must be some ) You're in a safe and happy place now ...... right ! now try posting something POSITIVE about our Chairman or manager. Even MJ throws in a wee token positive now and again to break up the monotony. You are clearly stuck in a rut.

btw I could join you in some of the negatives - I'm not saying all is rosy in the garden but you and MJ are doing such a great job - there's little point in joining in.

A compliment at last- TYVM Cornbeef.
mortonjag 2007-08-11 10:44:48
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 11 2007, 10:27 AM) [snapback]314158[/snapback]
Having just read the emails I can confirm that Morton were certainly aware of the offer from both Stan and the generous offer from NewTon, I would love to hear Morton's answer to why they didn't follow this up.

If you saw all the correspondence Jim, you also can confirm that Shoogly seemed excited, describing the offer as brilliant, and later promised to 'give JM a push'.
mortonjag 2007-08-12 07:50:25
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 11 2007, 07:18 PM) [snapback]314590[/snapback]
I couldn't disagree more. I'm rather bemused by all the hysteria being stirred up about all this.

Apparently, most fans are screaming for an experienced midfielder / striker / defender ...

Is this what Stan Webster is offering? No, apparently he has some promising young lads and he's offered them to Morton (and others).

Morton haven't taken up the offer (for whatever reason, c***-up/conspiracy...)

What on earth is the big deal?

OK, if the club has been slack in correspondence, then minor smack on wrist - but it's not as if we were offered (and lost out on) an exclusive deal on Ronaldinho.

Hell hath no fury like a NewTon scorned, whilst for mortonjag, well it's just welcome ammunition to fuel his tedious vendetta.
Yawn.

No hysteria, and no vendetta my sweet little Trumpet, and had you seen the e-mail sent to NewTON (prior to yesterday's match) by Crawford Rae, I doubt if you'd have indulged in this silly little piece of attention craving.
mortonjag 2007-08-12 08:01:21
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 11 2007, 08:48 PM) [snapback]314673[/snapback]
A number of posters on this forum have spouted doom and gloom for the whole close season. Some have even told us we are relegation fodder. Vikington (or was it Largston?) said in a thread yesterday that we needed to look at changing 8/10 players.

Others, myself included have been told that I am over optimistic, deluded, etc, etc because I have dared to suggest that maybe we are not that far short of a decent squad. I don't think I am the deluded one because I think we saw today that the reputations of what we are up against are a lot larger than the reality. We beat the bookies favourites on their own turf today and more comfortably than the score suggests with a makeshift team patched from our woefully weak squad.

Well I have a message for you boys

You can stick your unending bleats and pessimism up your a*ses because the more moderate of us at this stage look a lot more right than you guys and I am really enjoying it!!

As have I Tonsilitis-yesterday was a superb performance on the park-no need to mention individuals, though Spoonsy's goal came straight out of the 'striker's' handbook.

Nothing should be taken away from our boys-one match at a time. Well done lads, you were a credit to us and deserve recognition.
mortonjag 2007-08-12 08:06:20
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 12 2007, 08:00 AM) [snapback]314931[/snapback]
Pot, Kettle, Black ! dry.gif

Don't be a silly child.

Everybody who's posted has seen the serious side of this except for you and the Trumpet.

I usually just laugh of accusations of attention seeking BM, and frankly this latest is the daftest of all! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-12 08:11:40
QUOTE(GMC @ Aug 11 2007, 07:57 PM) [snapback]314624[/snapback]
...a defender.

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Not only that, but I think having him there helped a lot in producing Greacen and Harding's excellent performances. And Alex Walker continues to improve.

Barring any injuries, defence is NOT the problem.

AND




striker
mortonjag 2007-08-12 08:13:19
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 11 2007, 05:06 PM) [snapback]314532[/snapback]
Absolutely delighted smile.gif

For me it reiterates the fact that the guys we have are capable of matching anyone in this league, if only the club would see sense and get in a couple of guys to bolster our squad and we could make a real go of it this year. Mon the Ton!

wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-12 08:24:47
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Aug 11 2007, 08:21 PM) [snapback]314639[/snapback]
Did anybody read the article by Des McKoewn (ex Stenhousemuir Manager) on the saga of Paul McGowan. He was saying that Celtic have taken a loan of both player and Morton, all because Celtic refused our offers for a player who is a reserve striker for them.

Nice to see us getting some good press.

If you read between the lines SW, he was actually saying that the club had been very naive in the whole matter, suggesting that future loan deals should have a built in 'first refusal' clause.
mortonjag 2007-08-12 08:26:39
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 11 2007, 08:01 PM) [snapback]314627[/snapback]
so many of your posts are reflexive smile.gif

I am not a child.
mortonjag 2007-08-12 08:33:22
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 12 2007, 08:15 AM) [snapback]314936[/snapback]
Yer right, i apologise. sad.gif

It's very serious, morton refusing to look at a couple of nobody's, t'is indeed shocking stuff. Mr Rae, Hold your head in shame.

In fact, maybe we should get a posse together and run him out of town, What d'ya recken MJ ?, You can even be the sheriff.
Seriously though, get a f***in grip of yourself, It's not the end of the world, Stop boring us with your tedious vendetta (as trumpington said) against mr Rae.



Listen, if I really had a vendetta against the old codger, I could get the whole sorry tale published in a Glasgow Tabloid-GUARANTEED-and get money for the story.

Is that what YOU want?

I guess you know sweet f*ck all about the background to this, and as I said, there's a time to be serious.

If you think you know something else then speak up, or shut up.
mortonjag 2007-08-12 08:37:21
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Aug 12 2007, 01:29 AM) [snapback]314876[/snapback]
It wont happen, Warren hawke has no tits.

Whit-a burd wi' nae tits?
mortonjag 2007-08-12 08:42:13
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Aug 12 2007, 03:22 AM) [snapback]314910[/snapback]
Did anyone notice that as well as kicking dumfermline all over ther park Dean was playing some nice football .

He gets a lot of abuse when he plays bad just thought he deserved a bit of praise .

Brian Graham also done well today

Yes-people dislike his 'gung ho' style but he's much more useful than he gets credit for-often does in a simple way what others achieve after five of six passing moves.
mortonjag 2007-08-12 08:44:27
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 11 2007, 10:39 PM) [snapback]314755[/snapback]
And you know whereabouts in edinburgh he stays? rolleyes.gif the forth bridge may be far more convenient for him!

So convenient that he knew nothing about those road works which have been ongoing for AGES!
mortonjag 2007-08-12 08:45:26
QUOTE(Bryan @ Aug 11 2007, 10:40 PM) [snapback]314756[/snapback]
another dig even after what they did today dry.gif

Bryan-why do you describe a piece of common sense as a dig?
mortonjag 2007-08-12 08:50:38
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 11 2007, 05:38 PM) [snapback]314558[/snapback]
I'm enjoying every moment of being a morton fan these days, my gripe is with the whiney b*****ds who frequent this board, having a pop a Rae, McInally, the players and anything else, Moronjag's the obvious one but there are plenty more !!! sad.gif

LIAR
mortonjag 2007-08-12 08:53:22
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 12 2007, 08:45 AM) [snapback]314947[/snapback]
Why don't you reveal the whole story on here then, If it's such an earth shattering story that the tabloids would pay money for it (which i doubt) dry.gif

From what i can gather morton got first refusal on a couple of players and didn't take up the offer, correct ?, Big deal ! dry.gif

so what have i missed ? drug running ?, money laundering ? prostitution ?, probably not, what else could be so disturbing about this ? please let us know.

Thank you for backing down.

That was sensible. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-12 08:56:09
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 11 2007, 07:33 PM) [snapback]314596[/snapback]
Today surely settled where to play Spoonsy. He was immense today (as were the whole team) and much much more comfortable at right back than he has been the whole preseason and last week and on Tuesday. We must now play four at the back with Weatherson at right back

Spoonsy is and always has been a striker far more effective for Morton playing as a defender who can attack when appropriate

Just in case MortonJag failed to notice today! biggrin.gif

What Mortonjag noticed yesterday was an incredible display of effort and ability from a totally patchwork side.

Peter will always struggle against a really tricky winger.

Jay Shields is a right back with SPL experience.
mortonjag 2007-08-12 09:01:58 I can hardly believe the reports that we only took some 600 through-where are all those folk who accuse certain people of not being true supporters?

We were fantastic throughout-'EUFA Cup-yer havin' a laff' was particularly funny, and 'What a s***ey home support' didn't even get a response from 4000 Pars supporters!!!

We won the bragging rights yesterday, along with the lads on the pitch.

Well done all.
mortonjag 2007-08-12 09:07:40
QUOTE(HamCam @ Aug 12 2007, 09:05 AM) [snapback]314958[/snapback]
Let me guess. Geography was not one of your best subjects at school, too young to drive, taxi driver by trade or just talking pure baws.

Nobody in their right mind would choose Kincardine over the Forth Road to go to Dunfermline unless exceptional circumstances dictate otherwise.

Even with the rain the train was the best option.

Shields should have known to get out his pit earlier. only himself to blame for not getting a start.

Spoken to a number of Hibs fans who all rated Shields highly. General view was that he was seen as too much of a midget. Like the duracell rabbit goes forever and tackles anything but needs to work on his passing.

...and buy better batteries for his alarm clock!
mortonjag 2007-08-12 09:08:56
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 12 2007, 08:57 AM) [snapback]314954[/snapback]
Care to elaborate ?

Why?
mortonjag 2007-08-12 09:23:22 Just a couple of points-NOT meant to be negative or take anything from the actual performance which was outstanding.

I can't understand how a spate of injury problems forced JM to field that side, yet he's getting credit for fantastic tactics again.

If Jim deserves any credit for yesterday's show, it's because the boys were 100% up for it-WELL DONE there.

Bamba was a standout against Cellic in the Cup Final and wants away from the Pars. Sanny had him on toast at times yesterday, but at the right price, that lad would really beef up our central defence.

mortonjag 2007-08-12 09:33:02
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 12 2007, 12:43 AM) [snapback]314856[/snapback]
Tonight after the game I was back in the Albert, just had my first pint. had to go to the loo, so tried to squeeze past this burd, who in a total pished state falls back on me and I knock her drink over that was on the table.

So being a nice guy, I bought her another pint. Then she goes off on one wanting an apology, next thing I know I see a boss of mine, and it his burd.

So not wanting to get in a bust up with me boss, I move back to my seat, in the back room

Next thing me boss comes in to the back room and say how are you, fine I say, and then gives it 'Your a f***ing f****y' and indicates he is going to have me.
He walks away and I followed him asking him to repeat it, and he say hows yir f***ing Granny. HOW I do not know but I held back from knocking his time in, I was thinking, this c*** can sack me.

Now here comes my delema

Come Monday I have to meet this w*nker face to face, what should I do. Never liked the guy and hopes he fecking reads this

Given I was sober and this git was at Hositality at Ibrox for the day...

PS. I take it am f***ed for a bonus this year!!
For those thinking... he will regret posting this come Monday, I say fecking bring it on...

Push me and I will name the tawt


If you normally get on OK with the guy, he may well apologise tomorrow (if he can even remember what happened).

One thing's for sure Sean-I wouldn't let this pass without further discussion. You presumably have proof of what happened. You seem to be in the right. Assault does not have to entail physical violence, and you were assaulted in an unprovoked manner.

For what it's worth his idols at least did us a favour yesterday. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-12 11:33:37
QUOTE(Benny Boy @ Aug 12 2007, 10:48 AM) [snapback]315020[/snapback]
Spot on tonsilitis.

A back four with Weatherson at right back is definitely our best bet.

Only a clown would disagree with that - and everyone knows Mortonjag is a clown.


laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

PETER IS BY FAR THE BEST STRIKER AT OUR CLUB


(Verbatim quote from none less than Jim McInally in today's Scottish Sunday Mail)

Not often I descend to this level, but GET IT UP THE LOT OF YOU

SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A STRIKER


Mortonjag is always right-


well most of the time! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-12 11:41:14
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 12 2007, 09:11 AM) [snapback]314963[/snapback]
Because you called me a liar that's why.

You accused me of being a classical example of a poster who 'has a pop at the players'-I DON'T, and unlike you, I don't 'HAVE POPS' at anybody-I state my considered opinion, and back it up with evidence.

Any problem with that-just let me know.
mortonjag 2007-08-12 11:46:43
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 12 2007, 11:06 AM) [snapback]315035[/snapback]
I concede that you have supported the contention that we are only a couple of players away from a very good side. You may be over the top on some matters, downright wrong in quite a few others but you are right about this.

I don't agree Spoonsy's was a classic strikers goal. For me that was a classic defender or midfielder's goal - coming onto the ball from fairly deep and facing the goal, sidestepping a man and finishing. Spoonsy is too slow and does not turn fast enough for an out and out striker. He is far more effective and dangerous coming from the back, often not picked up by defenders.

But he's still BY FAR the best striker at the club according to JM. wink.gif

mortonjag 2007-08-12 11:52:01
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 12 2007, 11:39 AM) [snapback]315055[/snapback]
And posts like that make me smile. Every time. biggrin.gif

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mortonjag 2007-08-12 11:55:17
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Aug 12 2007, 10:11 AM) [snapback]314990[/snapback]
Mortonjag is a Morton supporter.

There's why.

Whether it pains you to admit it or not, the guy quite clearly loves the club. I can see it in the way he posts.

TY Dom Dom-that's it in a nutshell.
mortonjag 2007-08-12 11:57:12
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 12 2007, 10:36 AM) [snapback]315004[/snapback]
Ok then i'm deluded. dry.gif

maybe we should all slag the manager & chairman off for everything the do & everything they dont do, that'll show them that we really care & they'll probably double their efforts in getting morton to the SPL. laugh.gif

Constant unjustified criticism has never helped anyone and it wont help here ! sad.gif


As far as I can see, the only unjustified criticism on this issue is yours of mine.
mortonjag 2007-08-12 12:03:47
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 12 2007, 11:50 AM) [snapback]315059[/snapback]
We should'nt get carried away with two league victories but the fact is that we have done better than the doom-mongers thought we would and, lets face it, if we had lost heavily today they would all be on crowing that they told us so and with the usual call for the heads of everyone at Cappielow from the Chairman to the cleaning lady.

Not often I defend MortonJag but his liar comment relates to the fact that he never criticises the players - only everyone else at Cappielow especially the Chairman and the manager.

Pity his evidence he refers to is usually unfounded hearsay or simply ill informed personal opinion.

Other than that he's usually right!


Aye, Stan Webster will confirm that!
You stick to numbers-I'm trained to assess evidence, make diagnoses, and prescribe treatment. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-12 12:12:39
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Aug 12 2007, 10:49 AM) [snapback]315021[/snapback]
The way those guys played yesterday, they would have beaten a LOT of teams. They played like heroes and got the result they deserved.

As I've said, I have NEVER seen Morton scrap for three points like that, and they fought for it yesterday and made me a very proud man.

Dunfermline actually looked quite composed until well into the first half. They clearly though it was only a matter of time, and they did have most of the possession. The work ethic of our boys was faultless. It just goes to show the stupidity of playing the same side week in, week out, when some are clearly off form.

Competition for places is a crucial motivator-yesterday's side was mainly the result of injuries, but it DOES show that nobody should be able to take his place for granted, as seemed the case for most of last season.
mortonjag 2007-08-12 12:15:04
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 12 2007, 12:11 PM) [snapback]315083[/snapback]
Yes it is a rather a simple point.

Why no hyperbole for Jamie Cumming (Dorchester) ?

Presumably because he's significantly younger than Gowsa and is still maturing, despite being an Aussie under 17 and under 20 international. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-12 12:23:16
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 12 2007, 12:09 PM) [snapback]315081[/snapback]
With reports that Shields was stuck in traffic and therefore did not start, is it possible that McInally would have played Shields at right back and Weatherson up front at the expense of Graham yesterday? If he had, I don't think we would have been as effective.

I am not one of the McInally knockers but I just wonder.

On a more positive note, I noticed that the Dunfermline front guys kept switching with each other, right to left, etc We were defending zonally which was absolutely spot on as if we had been man marking our defenders would have been getting dragged all over the place.

I also thought, given the players we had available our 4-5-1 was exactly the right set up - well done for that Jim

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FFS Tonsilitis-just take the job!

'Defending zonally' and '4-5-1 was exactly the right set up'! laugh.gif

I though the obsession with fantasy football was for the Board's weans.

Yesterday we put on 11 guys with the right attitude, who ran their hearts out all over the bloody pitch, and never gave the EUFA Cup contenders a minute's peace.

I actually thought the master stroke was JM's putting a no 2 on the shirt of 'the best striker at the club'.

I'd prefer to describe yesterday's formation as infinitely variable, but I await comments from our specialists.
mortonjag 2007-08-12 12:27:23
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 12 2007, 12:15 PM) [snapback]315089[/snapback]
That's your problem, you cant see any further than your own "this is what i think so f*** everyone" opinions.


Beermonkey-I've not been STATING OPINIONS on this particular issue.
mortonjag 2007-08-12 12:30:04
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 12 2007, 12:18 PM) [snapback]315091[/snapback]
Dorchester were indeed fortunate to have snatched him from under the eyes of Rangers. smile.gif

Rangers were not in the equation at that stage-you and your pal are simply 'flogging a dead horse' now.

Everything is documented. Crawford Rae has expressed a desire to clarify matters further. Until then, I'm happy to leave things be.

ARE YOU?
mortonjag 2007-08-12 12:40:40
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Aug 12 2007, 10:08 AM) [snapback]314988[/snapback]
You're right. Why is McInally getting praised for outplaying an SPL quality team on their home park ? Why is McInally getting praise for putting out a team that knows what they're doing ?

Ugh.
I actually felt Morton's tactics and shape won the game. Dunfermline ran them ragged and Morton refused to lose their shape. It worked. Get over it.

Can't you, for once, admit Jim got it absolutely spot on ?

I didn't say that the 'tactics and shape' were wrong-I stated that he was forced to field that side because of injuries. It wasn't so desperately different from Tuesday's side, was it?

What WAS the difference-effort, motivation, playing for each other, never giving up-another poster commented that we played 'as though it was a cup tie'.

I understood that, though I did not understand our lack lustre effort on Tuesday.

If getting the boys 'up for it' is a 'tactic' JM's tactics were superb yesterday, and that's where I've given praise.
mortonjag 2007-08-12 12:41:45
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 12 2007, 10:45 AM) [snapback]315017[/snapback]
Great performance yesterday. Thought Jim McInally's tactics were spot on. Deano had a great game in midfield and the Harding/Greacen partnership seemed to work well. Was also impressed by Alex Walker in defence. In fact every player played well. Been shouting about Brian Graham for a while now. Good to see him getting a chance today and before I forget what about the goal. "Sings" There's only one Peter.
Pity I'm gonna miss the next two games. Well done the boys. C'mon the Ton.

I thought you were already away Weegie-the offer still stands-enjoy the break.
mortonjag 2007-08-12 12:42:59
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Aug 12 2007, 12:09 PM) [snapback]315080[/snapback]
Away ye go, Bamba's a donkey. Greacen and Harding have their moments, but Bamba's just plain sh1t. The clumsiest defender I've ever seen, wouldn't have him anywhere near the Morton team. We still do need to add to the defence, but not Bamba, he's a bombscare. Now if we could get McGuire or Wilson from Dunfermline, that would be good, but I can't see it happening unfortunately.

Bamba's a donkey.

Oh well, that's exactly what Sanny was called for a LONG time.
mortonjag 2007-08-12 12:48:36
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 12 2007, 12:09 PM) [snapback]315078[/snapback]
You have opinions which you back up with evidence do you ?, if you have evidence then surely they become FACTS & not opinions ?

So everything you say is fact then is it ?

Since when did the interpretation of evidence constitute fact?
mortonjag 2007-08-12 12:49:23
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Aug 12 2007, 12:35 PM) [snapback]315098[/snapback]
oooh thats fightin talk!

....you have a problem Sir-let me know! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-12 12:50:41
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 12 2007, 12:42 PM) [snapback]315107[/snapback]
Actually I would fancy us to get something from all of those games.
Stirling away will probably be the hardest game. We should hopefully win two home games, and Livvy seem to be pretty poor so can fancy our chances through there.
You'd expect St Johnstone to find a bit of form by then, so perhaps our home form could come undone then.

10 points is certainly reasonably likely.

An incontrovertibly cast iron definite possibility, even?
mortonjag 2007-08-12 13:08:18
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 12 2007, 12:28 PM) [snapback]315094[/snapback]
Maybe he will let it lie, but should I?

Sean I stand by my previous advice. I hadn't realised that this man has already been unpleasant to you specifically in the workplace.

I suspect that his behaviour was BECAUSE he knew you-not that of a stranger to another, and that knowledge was by virtue of his being your Manager.

I don't think your employer would look on his behaviour very kindly-in legal terms you've been gratuitously assaulted by one of their employees.

You're clearly upset enough to bring the issue up here, and if you don't get the air cleared, I guess you'll just keep worrying about it.

I'd approach him if he doesn't apologise, and explain that his behaviour was unacceptable. He may back down. If not, put a formal complaint to his line manager, citing the names of your witnesses, and stating that you fear victimisation in the workplace, and insist on a reassurance from IBM, by way of e-mail or in writing.
mortonjag 2007-08-12 18:12:57
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 12 2007, 12:54 PM) [snapback]315117[/snapback]
Possibly the wrong choice of words, but you're an intelligent man and you know exactly what i'm getting at.

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mortonjag 2007-08-12 18:18:24
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 12 2007, 01:19 PM) [snapback]315130[/snapback]
Why did you start another thread?

Edit to add: There's no need to SHOUT.

Which thread? So far as I can see, the last one I posted was one of my typically ultra negative spoutings of pish at 9.01 a.m. this morning. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-12 18:22:13
QUOTE(Bryan @ Aug 12 2007, 01:58 PM) [snapback]315144[/snapback]
timing of it rolleyes.gif

Aye-that's a fair comment-IF it was meant to be a dig! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-12 18:32:41
QUOTE(tontric @ Aug 12 2007, 02:28 PM) [snapback]315152[/snapback]
I was really surprised by how poor Dunfermline were yesterday. They have a lot of players at the club who are living off of past performances. Players like Glass, Crawford, Harper, etc did very little yesterday. It looks to me like a classic case of a team going into a league firmly believing they are going to stroll it. They will need to snap out of that way of thinking pretty quickly if they are not to be left behind. Dundee for me looked a far better bet for promotion.

What I've said above though shouldn't take away from the fact that our boys were feckin excellent yesterday. I've been a bit critical of our defence, and in particular Mr Harding, but their performance yesterday was almost flawless.

I think playing Spoonsy at the right of a back four settled the entire team. I find it amazing how much influence he has on a game from right back and if yesterdays performance doesn't settle the arguments on what is his best position then I don't know what will. I think there are a lot of people on this forum who see that he scores goals and take it from that that he must be a striker. Bolloc&s ! I'll admit that until recently I thought his best position was probably centre mid however having seen him play there on a number of occasions recently I feel he gets a bit lost. He just doesn't have the same impact there that he does from right back. Likewise playing up front. He just doesn't do it for me in that position.

We need to find a striker that is going to feed off of Templeman's flicks. Temp's offers a lot as a target man and if we can get someone to play off him properly then we will do pretty well. I've honestly not seen enough of Bobby Linn to know if he is the answer but even if he is we need some cover in the striking department.

To finish I'd like to give credit where credit is due. McInally got his tactics absolutely spot on yesterday. This may have been partly forced on him by injuries and traffic problems but I think its about time he got some praise on here.

Well done Jimbo. Here's hoping we can keep this good run going.

...and if Mr McInally states clearly in one of today's national Newspapers that he's a striker (the BEST at the club in fact), I take it he's talking 'bollocks'!
mortonjag 2007-08-12 18:36:17
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 12 2007, 03:18 PM) [snapback]315168[/snapback]
HAH !!!!!

You sure ? laugh.gif

I can think of someone who'll take great delight in telling everyone "McInally was tactically wrong and i'm right cos i'm just so perfect". laugh.gif

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Helluva difference between being happy at your team losing, and contradicting the repeated wanton attacks of numbskulls who argue for no other reason than that they can't face fact.
mortonjag 2007-08-12 18:42:12
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 12 2007, 04:09 PM) [snapback]315180[/snapback]
cornbeef - I've said all summer that I expected us to start in this manner and fine you know it. I'll dig out the posts if it means that much to you.

Or perhaps someone could back me up on that and save me the hassle.

PS Tonsilitis - you didn't see me having a pop after Dundee gave us the runaround at Dens. Let's not turn this into a tit-for-tat or it could be a long, dull season.

smile.gif

I'll back you up!

Tonsilitis is, as usual, spouting his pish (sorry I seem to have heard that expression so often, I'm using it myself), though I do come half way between the two of you, in that I've repeatedly said that two or three experienced signings in the right positions could see us challenge for promotion.
mortonjag 2007-08-12 18:50:07
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 12 2007, 05:33 PM) [snapback]315196[/snapback]
To be honest, I can't blame Celtic at all for their part. The main blame for this saga lies at the feet of Dougie Rae for trying to throw silly money about in the first place.

Other clubs must love it when he goes after one of their players, they know they can just double their valuation and the silly old fool will no doubt go along with it.

Don't you mean the astute business man who heads up that mega humungous confectionery giant famed for household names like




mortonjag 2007-08-12 18:54:54
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Aug 12 2007, 12:11 PM) [snapback]315082[/snapback]
He had a good game aye, but at times you could see he didnt know what was going on in the midfield, but that was short lived as he had a very nice game indeed. Not MoM material though, that, i would say should go to Jim McAllister, but then again the whole team just about deserved it. The thing that i was surprised about was Harding running right through their midfield and defence ohmy.gif rolleyes.gif

I think it's appropriate that you've made that comment on this thread Gibby.

Ryan's also twice the footballer he gets credit for-his time will come.
mortonjag 2007-08-12 19:00:07
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 12 2007, 01:36 PM) [snapback]315138[/snapback]
It was a 433, similar to Barca's set-up. Graham and Stevenson tracked back when defending and played as wingers when attacking.

Barca?

Not getting at you in particular Chocolate Boy, but some posters would micro dissect Boris Spassky's most famous chess victory, describing in vivid detail every last synaptic moment in his left frontal lobe





























and still be talking complete mince.
mortonjag 2007-08-12 19:04:16
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Aug 12 2007, 02:40 PM) [snapback]315159[/snapback]
Yesterdays game was a game fit for Deano, physical, but he had me pissin mesell at one point.

he went up for a header and seemed to get caught in two minds " do I go for the ball or take out the player?" almost a cantona type effort, mid air star jump.

He really did well yesterday...if he keeps it up we may see more of the battler...

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

..and that tosser gave a free against him for one of the most inventively effective pieces of football I've ever seen!
mortonjag 2007-08-12 19:09:10
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 12 2007, 06:59 PM) [snapback]315222[/snapback]
700,000 pounds !!!

really ?

wow !

I wonder what DDFR and the gaffer could do with an extra 700,000 pounds ?

Perhaps they could buy a telephone ?

ohmy.gif


or

7 Gowsas-then Shoogly could have one playing, one on the bench, and one in each bedroom of the hoose, to drool over after a tiring day at the sweetie factory.
mortonjag 2007-08-12 19:15:40
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 12 2007, 07:10 PM) [snapback]315228[/snapback]
No!
1 Gowsa and at least 6 Bambis! mad.gif
And mebbe an Ian Diack - we need a comedy routine. rolleyes.gif

On the 12th day of August Auld Shoogly bought for me

Five Paul McGowans..........


(and McInnes from Saints on a 'free').
mortonjag 2007-08-12 19:27:02 Having repeatedly cried himself to sleep after reading torrents of abuse for daring to describe Peter Weatherson as a 'Striker', it comes as no surprise to this sad old c*nt, that not one of the perpetrators of those reprehensibly slanderous assaults will criticise Saint James of The Immaculate Gameplan for stating exactly the same.

SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A FOOTBALLER


mortonjag 2007-08-12 19:36:03
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Aug 12 2007, 06:16 PM) [snapback]315201[/snapback]
Yes but Sanny was just finding his feet. wink.gif
Bamba is just plainly utter cack. The best part of it is that he thinks he's too good for Dunfermline. He believes he could cut it in the Premiership, but in reality he's not good enough for the 1st division.


I take it you've seen him play more often than me-I'm only going on his performance against Celtic in the SCF-didn't look much like a donkey on its way to the knacker's yard that day.
mortonjag 2007-08-12 19:39:20
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 12 2007, 07:32 PM) [snapback]315237[/snapback]
You know what I think of JM. rolleyes.gif
I think your argument has been undermined somewhat, old man. wink.gif

Surely you're not suggesting that our manager is incorrect.
mortonjag 2007-08-12 19:47:24
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 12 2007, 05:22 PM) [snapback]315194[/snapback]
Already raised an issue against this guy 2 years ago with HR, so that will help my cause.

If all else fails Sean, I could keep writing to him

FOR EVER
mortonjag 2007-08-12 20:07:11
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Aug 10 2007, 11:34 PM) [snapback]313986[/snapback]
So much for your strong beliefs then. tongue.gif
I'm glad I amuse you. I'm proud I am a Roman Catholic, always have been, always will be. I believe in something, and I also believe in peoples rights to freely practice what religion they may chose, without fear of violence, intimidation, persecution etc.

Its sad that someone like you with his strong beliefs doesnt share the same values.
Aye, Islam is a peaceful religion and they will kill anyone who disagrees with them. More your cup of tea than mine i'd think.

Arky, I discovered only yesterday (my brother's been doing research into our family tree) that my Great Grandmother (Janet Shannon) who latterly lived in Belville St., was a Roman Catholic. Her Mum was a Mrs Murphy, and the family were brought up in Govan where my great Grandfather met and married her. He worked in the Govan shipyards, before moving to Greenock.

I don't know why it took so long for that dark secret to emerge!!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-12 20:10:35
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 11 2007, 12:19 AM) [snapback]314029[/snapback]
Political islam is no more dangerous to this country than the right-wing hate paramilitaries, as shown by the scummy website Redwatch.

Hmm-I'd suggest the latter possibly has a tad less clout.
mortonjag 2007-08-12 20:15:24
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Aug 11 2007, 10:34 AM) [snapback]314164[/snapback]
not everyone thinks that we should live in a complely secularised society.

for those among us who wish exercise their right to practice a religion, it is important to have the option of a school which follows the teachings of said faith.

to deny this right is to discriminate against these groups, be them catholic, muslim or jew.

I went to a non denominational school and many of my closest friends went to the catholic school.

it isnt schools that polarise and segregate people, its a small bunch of extremist mentalists. they will be there no matter what schools people go to.

Eh-polarisation and segregation are fundamental to the bloody topic!
mortonjag 2007-08-12 20:17:24
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Aug 11 2007, 10:50 AM) [snapback]314173[/snapback]
I went to a Muslim school and it never done me any harm.

...because they kicked you out in Second year for drinking? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-12 20:21:47
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 12 2007, 07:43 PM) [snapback]315242[/snapback]
Well it wasn't a strikers goal yesterday was it?
Mebbe JM meant he's the best striker of the ball at the club. wink.gif tongue.gif
I'd agree with that.


Maybe JM didn't know what he meant, but that's was what he said!

He also said we need an experienced midfielder to 'put his foot on the ball'.
mortonjag 2007-08-12 20:24:44
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 12 2007, 07:50 PM) [snapback]315246[/snapback]
Its a bit rich you saying I'm spouting pish!!
Of course I'll catch in the neck probably sooner rather than later but why should'nt the more optimistic of us have our day in the sun. For the first two games at least, the pessimistists were wrong no matter how much they deny it or claim they saw it coming. If in the end they are right, I'll admit it, but from my perspective there are a significant number of regular posters who have a 'my glass is half full and its everyone else's fault' mentality and they are wrong.

And!!! As far as I'm concerned, my stance, which I will repeat here and now, that we are only a couple of players short of a championship challenging side, after the first two league games looks a lot more real than your supposed realists.

Accountants may be boring but they are generally realists.

Guess you missed the point there! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-12 20:26:22
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 12 2007, 07:50 PM) [snapback]315246[/snapback]
Its a bit rich you saying I'm spouting pish!!
Of course I'll catch in the neck probably sooner rather than later but why should'nt the more optimistic of us have our day in the sun. For the first two games at least, the pessimistists were wrong no matter how much they deny it or claim they saw it coming. If in the end they are right, I'll admit it, but from my perspective there are a significant number of regular posters who have a 'my glass is half full and its everyone else's fault' mentality and they are wrong.

And!!! As far as I'm concerned, my stance, which I will repeat here and now, that we are only a couple of players short of a championship challenging side, after the first two league games looks a lot more real than your supposed realists.

Accountants may be boring but they are generally realists.


Boring realists.
mortonjag 2007-08-12 20:31:54
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 12 2007, 07:43 PM) [snapback]315243[/snapback]
But true nevertheless. sad.gif

No harm in emphasis my boy. You DID get an 'A' in English? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-13 05:32:50
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 12 2007, 11:08 PM) [snapback]315417[/snapback]
I think it depends on the attitude of the team. We beat Dunfermline because we were up for it and they thought they only had to turn up. Well, if we are not careful, the reverse could be true on Tuesday and whilst I expect us to win, anything could happen if we rest on our laurels from Saturday.

That describes us for a full season.

When the boys turn it on we are virtually unbeatable, but let's not forget last Tuesday. I don't see a repeat of Saturday's brilliance but believe we'll win by one goal.
mortonjag 2007-08-13 05:40:42
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 12 2007, 08:29 PM) [snapback]315279[/snapback]
He also said that he would like to see the mad Doctor Mentaljag installed as Chairman, Tactical Coach, Motivational Mentor, Chief Scout, Director of Football and Team Bus Driver.
'Keep that off the record' he added.

Nothing surprises me after what he didn't say to Stan Webster.
mortonjag 2007-08-13 05:48:51
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 12 2007, 08:52 PM) [snapback]315297[/snapback]
Haven't you read Dostoevsky? He's a Nihilist, just like you. The giant pink letters are coded messages for his coterie of co-conspirators down at Newlands bowling club.

Blast!

The coterie of co-conspirators uncovered. I was ASSURED by that daft Ida Dunnett that pink would be safe.

Mustapha Phag WAS right after all-forceful bitch that Dunnett is, and standing for the presidency again.

The Monkey is extremely displeased. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-13 05:52:08
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Aug 13 2007, 12:10 AM) [snapback]315446[/snapback]
egads! not much gets past you. i'm not a nihilist, but... checkmate

bummer.

where's newlands anyway? is that some middle-class hellhole in the southside?

Ask Jesus-he apparently has intricate details of the locale and its recent demographic change!
mortonjag 2007-08-13 05:54:26 New Broomfield is nearest to the sky

Arbroath is nearest to the sea

Love St is nearest to the scrapyard
mortonjag 2007-08-13 06:15:24
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 12 2007, 08:32 PM) [snapback]315283[/snapback]
The point was?
This accountant is an insolvency practitioner. You try being bored telling 200 Irish navvys on a Friday afternoon theres no money to pay their wages! I got into this line of work because, I confess, regular accounting and auditing bored the pants off me!

The point was --I was taking the 'pish' in using the favourite term used to describe my own posts.

I don't see any problem with your job-'Listen lads, I've got a dead cert for the 2.30 at the Curragh', and as they're painstakingly trying to write Shooglychokedonafudgywudgy, you whisper to the intelligent looking one, 'Sorry mate-you're all fired-see ya', as you quickly 'leg it' to your BMW 5 series.
mortonjag 2007-08-13 06:22:12
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 12 2007, 09:48 PM) [snapback]315368[/snapback]
You believe everything you read?
The case for prosecution produces Exhibit A: Mortonjag. huh.gif

The wisdom of youth.

The case for the prosecution jointly produces Exhibit A: vikingThornTON dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-13 06:29:59
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 12 2007, 11:33 PM) [snapback]315434[/snapback]
I agree that all Morton supporters were happy with the result yesterday. I just don't agree with much of the negative p*sh thats been on this board Chrissiboi. Sure I was disappointed to lose Sturm but he went to a bigger club and the between the lines seems to suggest some underhand dealing. I also think that we have been over ambitious and even naive with some of our targets but we have not a bad squad and we will still probably add to it.

We've won our first two league games so maybe we can have a bit of optimism. I'm sick of all the negative pash and I think I am not alone. Nothin gthe club does will please some of our posters and it gets a bit wearing.

In fact I'm thinking of chucking the board, it only winds me up!

I share that thought fifty times a day.
mortonjag 2007-08-13 06:39:47
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Aug 13 2007, 01:33 AM) [snapback]315484[/snapback]
So the deal is............... posters can come on here on a daily basis and say that we're fecked/relegation material/the managers a tool/ Dougie's a doddering interfering incompetent/ the defence is a shambles and Dunfermline are gonny hump us ... oh aye, we've no youth policy and Newtons mate didn't get a reply to his fantastic offer of the next Aussie world cup squad..................... call the feckin' tabloids etc etc et-f'n cetera.
and Tonsilitis isn't allowed a mild dig after our first two results ? Poor show chaps.

For the record- I don't believe that everything in the garden is rosy (but neither is it sh1te) I believe that supporters are entitled to a bit of unreasonable optimism or else we may as well just go and follow the Glasgow TWO.

If an optimist is one who supports the 'ton and the current Chairman and manager - include me in.

If Tonsilitis was 'Havin a laff' at those little knowalls who regularly pull individual players to pieces, he has my full backing.

The rest of your post is confusing me. If you care to explain WHY you 'support' our current Chairman and manger, maybe I'll be less confused.

If, as you suggest, it's purely because you're an optimist, STOP trying to ridicule folk for publishing FACT.
mortonjag 2007-08-13 06:50:02
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 12 2007, 08:36 PM) [snapback]315285[/snapback]
Whit are you havering on about now?
Do we need to give Mentaljag a third lesson in litosis? ohmy.gif

I thought my neologistic blend of litotes and meiosis would have done Mrs Spooner proud VT.

Two conjunctions in a three word phrase?-I'd describe that as blatant hyperblabber.
mortonjag 2007-08-13 06:59:54
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 13 2007, 04:55 AM) [snapback]315496[/snapback]
It's no wonder the majority of members of this messageboard have you on ignore.

JonaTon-yet another who speaks for the majority, I thought more of you.

You've just said you refuse to criticise ANYBODY until you have full details, and proceeded to rubbish a fellow poster who HAS them.

Bizarre.

Oh- en passant, JM thinks Spoonsy's a striker, but I wouldn't lose sleep over anything he says if I were you. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-13 07:04:06 Bugger-when I saw the Title of the thread and the poster's name, I thought I was about to get an offer I couldn't refuse.
mortonjag 2007-08-13 07:08:21
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 12 2007, 11:00 AM) [snapback]315030[/snapback]
Paid my half single back to Saltcoats tongue.gif Cheeky chinese p***k conductor questioned me, so I just exhaled angrily and said 'a half...now'. He quickly gave me the ticket and ran away laugh.gif

That sounds like a quotation from some cheap Paperback Novel.

Is this the same Chocolate Boy who defends the Banking System to the hilt?

Well seen why you don't get into debt you little cheat.
mortonjag 2007-08-13 07:13:41 My Monkey used to appear on the Avatar wearing a Ton scarf, but after graduating from a certain University, he insisted I change it.

He doesn't know this, but secretly he's saying 'A University Degree means sweet f*ck all-it's what you do afterwards that counts'.
mortonjag 2007-08-13 07:29:41
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 12 2007, 10:51 PM) [snapback]315405[/snapback]
No wonder you wanted to hide that fact wink.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I'm talking about Belville Street in the late 'Forties' Chris.

Top floor room and kitchen-Granny always in the same armchair and polka dot dress-Flossie, the wee 'dug' who stank and always licked your face, Macaroon Bars, Irn Bru, Puddin' Suppers, and getting to pee in the sink because I was scared to go to the outside toilet.


Happy days!
mortonjag 2007-08-13 07:36:06
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Aug 13 2007, 12:18 AM) [snapback]315452[/snapback]
whaaaa?

Greacen-when I was six and a pupil at Carnegie Park Annexe Primary in the Port, the Catholic Primary-I can't even remember its name was adjacent.

Every single playtime there was a slanging match between the two playgrounds. At first I hadn't a clue what was going on, but I soon learned I was one of the 'Proddy Dogs', and joined in the shouting at the 'Catholic Cats'.

Pretty mild stuff by any standards, but tangible evidence of something which has hardly changed in more than fifty years. Yet again you appear to be a man who conjures up wonderful ideas and tries to alter fact to fit them.
mortonjag 2007-08-13 07:52:44 Live and let live I say-thirty years ago men who wore earrings were regarded as oddities.

I clearly remember a young guy consulting me in the early eighties, to ask if what is now termed 'body piercing' was safe. Turned out he wanted a ring through his left nipple! I couldn't quite understand what it was all about, but I guess nobody does.

Tattoos on ladies' bums. I think they're sometimes lovely-sometimes both are which is even better.
mortonjag 2007-08-13 09:04:22
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 13 2007, 05:50 AM) [snapback]315503[/snapback]
Before Saturday I never agreed with this but now I think that's where he is most effective.


Is he a striker?
mortonjag 2007-08-13 09:22:44
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 13 2007, 08:40 AM) [snapback]315528[/snapback]
Whatever did they teach you at Pishley Grammar?

Litosis is neither spoonerism (Revd, not Mrs) nor malapropism (Mrs) and it's not a neologism either.
It's just an error in which litotes has been confused with mitosis (not meiosis), a howler one would not expect from someone with two degrees from a real university. smile.gif

Nice attempt at post-rationalisation though.

I will decide what my creations are Trumpet!

At Pishley Grammar, 'Spoonerism', and 'Malapropism' always had capital letters, and a minister was described as a 'Rev.', (note the full stop).

My new word,'litosis', is by definition, a neologism, and, believe it or not, I'm fully au fait with the difference between mitosis and meiosis.

I have three degrees from a 'Real University'-for what that's worth-since we have to be precise!

I confused the two characters-Mortonjag does make the occasional mistake. It's a measure of the success of his persona, that sad b*stards always jump at the chance to ridicule, and inevitably make complete arses of themselves. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-13 09:40:52
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Aug 13 2007, 09:21 AM) [snapback]315552[/snapback]
not trying to alter any facts chap.

50 years ago you said that was? yeah i suppose you might be right. probably nothings changed in the past 50 years huh.gif

FFS come on and get real, 50 years ago people were getting disowned by their families for marrying outside the church, whereas today it is commonplace. The difference in attitutes between my generation and my grandparents generation is as wide as the river clyde mate! (and i mean how wide it is at Gourock, not at Glasgow!)

Wake up old man, A LOT has changed.

Oh, and by the way i left school 10 years ago, and i attended Gourock high. As i said, many of my best pals at the time attended St Columba and never once was there any kind of trouble. Furthermore, twice a week, i used to go straight from school to St Columbas where i used to practice with the band i had at the time(all the other members were Catholic Cats). The length of reservoir road, i would be walking through a crowd of Catholic Cats, with my red white and blue school tie on clear display. Not once did i copme across any trouble, or even in fact a comment!!!!

You my sir, are the one who is altering fact to fit your warped view of the world.

I am not denying that there is still a considerable amount of bigotry in our society, but i would tend to look more in the directions of the parents rather than the schools which kids attend.

you know MJ, that 18 stone skinhead with a tatoo of King Billy on his white charger on his forearm...do you think his kids bigotry is caused by

a ) Twisted ill informed values passed on to him by his dad (who had them passed on by his)

b ) An upstanding member of the teaching profession

???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

p.s. MJ, please feel free to respond to my post by highlighting a very small part of it, and responding only to that, while ignoring all the other points on it. I have noticed thats what you usually do when someone challenges you and you dont have any reasonable response to their points.

I'd also really really appreciate it if you would be so kind as to highlight any typos or spelling mistakes i might have made in this post

I now understand everything-you are a self satisfied little prat, and at the same age as my youngest child presume to argue from personal experience with the general opinion of most posters.

I actually believed all that s***e about your advising potential employers, from your VAST experience of humanity!

Your isolated examples prove absolutely nothing, and like so many of the Board's weans, you talk a good game. Older does not always mean wiser, but it frequently does.

You may learn.
mortonjag 2007-08-13 09:51:10
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Aug 13 2007, 09:13 AM) [snapback]315547[/snapback]
You really are very full of yourself Mr MJ are you not !!

Dr Mortonjag if you don't mind!

The truth is Mack, that posters who think they are brighter than they actually are, are 'full of themselves', and it appears there are quite a few of them.

By all means continue to rise to the bait.
mortonjag 2007-08-13 09:53:45
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Aug 13 2007, 09:35 AM) [snapback]315556[/snapback]
Last July , when Newton was in Scotland , he stayed in my flat with me for a couple of days.

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-13 13:20:51
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Aug 11 2007, 10:34 AM) [snapback]314164[/snapback]
not everyone thinks that we should live in a complely secularised society.

for those among us who wish exercise their right to practice a religion, it is important to have the option of a school which follows the teachings of said faith.

to deny this right is to discriminate against these groups, be them catholic, muslim or jew.

I went to a non denominational school and many of my closest friends went to the catholic school.

it isnt schools that polarise and segregate people, its a small bunch of extremist mentalists. they will be there no matter what schools people go to.
followed by---

'Inevitably, segregating kids will have some effect'. laugh.gif


The main reason I detest posters of your variety is that you 'talk a good game' alternately from your mouth and arse. I vividly remember the last time we crossed swords-little did I suspect that the origin of such grandiose claptrap was in fact a mere child masquerading as an experienced employment advisor who hobnobbed with the rich and famous.

In this instance, I simply disputed your original, and BLATANTLY STUPID assertion that this isssue does not incorporate segregation and polarisation-NO MORE, AND NO LESS. You immediately 'jumped down my throat'.....Why, particularly when you're praising another poster for being civilised?

I see you're already changing your tune. Ever thought of taking up politics?

I've never been able to tolerate fools gladly-that's possibly the greatest of my many faults.
mortonjag 2007-08-13 13:47:33
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Aug 13 2007, 09:55 AM) [snapback]315567[/snapback]
My word MJ, fishing trips on an internet notice board, believing what you read in the Sun - dear dear dear.

wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-13 14:55:40
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 13 2007, 12:06 PM) [snapback]315603[/snapback]
Then what is its meaning? huh.gif

It may mean for you whatever you wish. I previously explained how I arrived at it in the same manner as this morning's Spoonerpropism.


H. A. Litosis

Dental Hygeinist.
mortonjag 2007-08-13 15:00:39
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 13 2007, 02:11 PM) [snapback]315678[/snapback]
I never rubbished him I thought his replies to me were annoying and cheeky when all I was pointing out was that I (and most other users) couldn't form a true opinion without knowing both sides of the story.
Iain, it was kind of you to send me those gifts at Christmas. When you asked for my address I suspected it was to send a Morton related article in the Aussie press or something. I was shocked to receive a calendar and DVD from you, especially as we didn't get on up til then.

To publicly post private messages in an attempt to embarrass me (ironically in a thread in which you are refusing to make private correspondence public because you have more respect for people) or make me look bad and then ask for another posters opinions is well out of order in my opinion especially as it had nothing to do with the thread - low blow if you ask me. To be honest I never asked for anything from you I still don't know why you sent them. Please DO take me off your Christmas card list

JT you did mention 'Morton ignoring his advances'. You possibly made that comment quite innocently, but coming as it did, hard on the heels of several derisory posts from the usual culprits, you can surely see it was open to the interpretation I put on it.

BTW you still haven't answered my question. Do you disagree with JM about Spoonsy?
mortonjag 2007-08-13 15:02:00
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 13 2007, 02:37 PM) [snapback]315689[/snapback]
I'd say yes he is a striker but at the moment I don't think that's were he is most effective for us. I agree with McInally's comments that he isn't fit enough to play up front. If he got back to the fitness levels he was at when he first joined us I'd play him up front. Until then I'd keep him at right back.

TY.
mortonjag 2007-08-13 15:04:01
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 13 2007, 12:01 PM) [snapback]315598[/snapback]
You're not the prosecution here. tongue.gif

Of course I am-it's a new case!
mortonjag 2007-08-13 15:09:55
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Aug 13 2007, 01:14 PM) [snapback]315637[/snapback]
huh.gif unsure.gif

Bragging Rights!?!

What bragging rights??

One of the biggest myths about football is 'bragging rights'. For as long as ive been going to football (about 17-18 yrs now) I've yet to meet someone who has came up to me with their 'bragging rights'.

Mind you, id probably just tell them to f*** off. I go to watch the game, not to hear some smug teuchter tell me how his team is better than mine.

I used the term metaphorically. In that sense I was correct.
mortonjag 2007-08-13 15:15:37 I definitely noticed what I thought was a new and slightly cynical edge to our play-Sanny conned the Ref quite early out on the left, Deano took no prisoners with a girning Crawford, and in general the tackles were more robust. My brother even thought young Graham was deliberately hovering on the far touchline for as long as possible-kidding on he didn't know he was being subbed.

I suspect this is what happens when JM wears shorts on a rainy day-though I can't quite explain how it works.
mortonjag 2007-08-13 16:07:32
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Aug 13 2007, 03:06 PM) [snapback]315725[/snapback]
i have stated that schools are not to blame for bigotry, because i do not believe that they are. to deny that they have any effect at all however, would be ludicrous. most people would see how these two statements are compatible, however you are hellbent on avoiding the issue and instead directing the discussion towards a boring semantics type argument instead. good work mj.

let me put it another way, i do not really enjoy reading this board as much as i used to. I do not blame your irritating drivel for this, although it is inevitable that your 50 posts a day has had some effect in diminishing my enjoyment of this forum. see what i mean mj?

also, at what part did i say that this argument had nothing to do with segregation and polarisation? thats what it is all about. what i said was that schools were not to blame for it. for the umpteenth time, i would lay the majority of the blame at the door of the parents/guardians.


Oh I'm sorry I let you annoy me-I actually agree with most of what you say, but you actually stated that schools had nothing to do with segregation and polarisation. I just found that extremely ironic when it's obvious that 'faith' schools are definitively about those very things.

I hope you understand what I'm driving at-I believe very strongly that religion has no place in a state funded school.
mortonjag 2007-08-13 16:11:15
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 13 2007, 03:15 PM) [snapback]315732[/snapback]
My post was not meant to rubbish Newton at all. What he has done from what I can glean from on here was obviously in Morton's interests and a very impressive gesture at that.

However only a select few have been privy to the emails between Newton (and the guy Webster?) and the club. From what I read the whole problem was that Morton had failed to get back to Newton on his offer and so the comment rejected his advances was exactly what I thought had happened - if I was wrong it perfectly illustrates my point about people not having the facts and unable to form a true opinion.

I suspect that NewTON could let you see copies of the correspondence if you ask him nicely!

I assure you they make interesting if slightly confusing reading.
mortonjag 2007-08-13 16:18:05 Mine's a prediction
mortonjag 2007-08-13 16:25:00
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 13 2007, 01:46 PM) [snapback]315654[/snapback]
I have a disabled travel card, he didn't seem to understand this. You are an absolute c***, who will hopefully die soon.

I take it your disability doesn't prevent you from flashing the card in front of his nose-are you saying you did that and he still didn't understand.

And before you or anybody else starts, I undoubtedly know as much, if not more about disability as the next person, and am actively involved with the MS society in Glasgow on a professional volunteer basis.

I don't think much of your potential? ethnic slur either-that might suggest that I'm not the real KUNT here Chocolate Boy.
mortonjag 2007-08-14 04:41:50
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 13 2007, 07:29 PM) [snapback]315837[/snapback]
I do believe it, and can appreciate why you made the error. Just my opinion of course, but I'd say that the term neologism is better applied to the conscious invention of a new word or meaning where no suitable word existed before. Like agnosticism.
Well of course you do, but surely that's 'mortonjag' laugh.gif

A neologism's a new word by definition.

Mortonjag is indeed a very confused character.
mortonjag 2007-08-14 04:43:45
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 13 2007, 07:39 PM) [snapback]315846[/snapback]
Is he related to Hal Stewart ?

NO that was Hal. Y. Toses the Chiropidist.
mortonjag 2007-08-14 05:24:59
QUOTE(SramTon @ Aug 13 2007, 09:12 PM) [snapback]315899[/snapback]
i've not had the privilage of reading the emails, but from what i can gather the only morton officials involved are dougie and crawford rae.

mortonjag quotes from ddfr that he would give mcinally "a push".

sounds to me that despite the enthusiasm of the rae's, mcinally just wasn't interested.

if that is the case (and does anyone know it isn't?), what is the actual criticism of ddfr here?

or do we all actually now officially want ddfr to pick the team?

tbh, the whole thing sounds dodgy. if this guy is acting for the players then how could he professionally justify getting them to sign for morton ahead of rangers or an spl side?

newton won't publish the emails as he has too much respect for ddfr, but is happy to allow, and encourage, the one-sided interpretation that does ddfr no favours!?

I assure you that NewTON's behaviour has at times verged on the patience of a Saint.

One sided interpretation indeed!
The guy's already banked $40,000 in anticipation of ASSISTING Mr Rae!! dry.gif

Would this guy Webster have ignored Rangers if Morton had shown an earlier interest?

I'd find that incredible



Indeed-incredible that a gift horse has apparently been looked in the mouth. Morton had first refusal. Irrespective of individual blame, Morton blew this. The blame lies fairly and squarely within GMFC.

While it does not appear that the Club have covered themselves in glory to date on this opportunity washing our dirty linen in public does not do us any good.


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Discreet discussion on our private little rag hardly constitutes 'washing dirty linen in public'. As I've suggested, until a full explanation is forthcoming, NO specific blame can be apportioned. What IS eminently clear is that communications among Shoogly, his PA, Crawford, JM, and others at Cappielow appeared virtually non-existent throughout this long running negotiation, with at least six specific contradictions.


So on it goes, but hardly surprising that, having kept details of this matter entirely private until it was painfully confirmed by Stan Webster (the Ayr fan who wanted to do US a favour) that Morton had NOT been in contact (as our season commenced) NewTON's motives are now being called in question.

I was responsible for posting Stan's final e-mail-I felt Iain deserved some support, credibility, and gratitude.
Like NewTon, I hold Morton's best interests close to my heart, yet the scathingly cynical behaviour of certain posters, allied to a deafening silence from Cappielow tempts me to publicise full details of this whole sorry debacle. Brushing problems under a carpet is never an ultimate solution. As I asked another poster-is that what you want? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-14 06:14:41 constant & unjustified critcism of manager & chairman is not the actions of a true supporter IMO, especially when the club is going in the right direction


Beermonkey, I'd suggest that constant and unjustified criticism of anything or anybody suggests lack of true support.

I believe the club is now stagnating under an Autocrat and his 'manager' glove puppet. I've repeatedly explained why I believe that. My true support is for the fans, the Club, and the boys on the park.

Would you like to present your case for the defence?
mortonjag 2007-08-14 06:30:06
QUOTE(Lily @ Aug 13 2007, 07:10 PM) [snapback]315829[/snapback]
I saw Sue give a interview one time and she was talking about when she dated Cliff and she said they did not do anything while they were going together. She said that as Christians they did not believe in sex outside of marriage and as they were not married to one another then I take her to mean they did not do anything.

Her later reported behaviour suggests she wasn't slow to recant.

I reckon if Coisty found her a good ride, there MUST be something dodgy about Sir Cliff's sexuality!
mortonjag 2007-08-14 08:48:19
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 14 2007, 08:05 AM) [snapback]315974[/snapback]
Misogyny and homophobia in one sentence. Is this the essence of a football fan's messageboard? biggrin.gif

I do not fear pouffes-behave!
mortonjag 2007-08-14 11:30:14
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 14 2007, 09:03 AM) [snapback]315981[/snapback]
Well done sir! An excellent and succinct statement of opinion ohmy.gif

Perhaps you could use it as your sig laugh.gif

I prefer 'Don't they hate us when we tell the truth!', and in your case the cap only need be worn if it's a tad XL!

I shall attend to the matter forthwith, and thank you for your timeous catalysis.
mortonjag 2007-08-14 11:36:38
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 14 2007, 10:58 AM) [snapback]316012[/snapback]
It wasn't positive, it was a smug statement.
No-one likes smugness. dry.gif
No one likes defeats either, moron. mad.gif

It was actually smug, and a sideways swipe VT-it was never intended to be anything else. He has, however, been politely asked to present his case! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-14 11:54:50
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 14 2007, 11:40 AM) [snapback]316042[/snapback]
How wrong you are TT . I have never heard anyone ever make such a comment that they'd be happy with a defeat sure in like tonights game I see it as less significant as away to Stirling that is only because our league status is more important for the development of the club .

Comments like his are only worthy of scorn, and I've changed my signature at his prompting! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-14 11:57:13
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 14 2007, 11:49 AM) [snapback]316048[/snapback]
I think it's abit niave of Crawford to expect us to get back in the frame to pick the next crop of lads . If this present crop make it Rangers will surely cement ties with Stasn Webster . Despite the attempts by Newt . I cannot see Stan Webster being at all impressed by the clubs communication (or lack of ) .
As I have stated several times on this thread you have to assume that this isin't a one off and thats how things are done at the club .

I think we really must wait for an explanation Chris!
mortonjag 2007-08-14 17:24:24
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 14 2007, 03:20 PM) [snapback]316200[/snapback]
Load of pish, that's what this is.

Morton don't want the players you offered or whatever (haven't managed to get past the first line of any posts in this thread you see), stop maoning.

Maoning Mr Deegan-careful- ThornTON will be after you, faster than your little legs can carry you! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-15 05:43:31
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Aug 14 2007, 01:51 PM) [snapback]316142[/snapback]
Have bad memories of McGurn v Livi sad.gif Thought he handed last cup tie to them through there.

Good luck to him though - competition for the jersey can only be good.

No he didn't. For starters that game should never have been played. It was a nightmare for ANY Goalie, and incidentally McGurn's kicking into that horrendous wind in the second half was outstanding compared to his counterpart's.
mortonjag 2007-08-15 05:49:42
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 14 2007, 01:36 PM) [snapback]316121[/snapback]
Oh, and thast wisnae me.

Read the posts my man!




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Well it's changed anyway!
mortonjag 2007-08-15 06:01:34
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 14 2007, 05:22 PM) [snapback]316271[/snapback]
As the original poster I admit that it was intended to be a bit smug and a gentle dig at those who think that the present squad can't survive in the first division. It was certainly a bit tongue in cheek but quite a few repondents seem to think that if you don't share their view, you must be described using one of the following adjectives:

stupid
a fantasist
deluded
arrogant
moronic
annoyingly optimistic


Thats not a complete list but all of the above have been used just on this thread. That does'nt include some of the veiled threats of physical violence.

Now I can't think how any thread which effectively says 'I told you so' can be anything other than a bit smug but its part and parcel of holding what at times seems to be a minority opinion on this site. I don't have any doubt that we will lose games and that as soon as we do, I'll catch it in the neck in exactly the same GIRUY basis. One difference is though, that I won't be calling any of you any of the names above for holding a different opinion.

My opinion is that we have quite a few very decent players in a squad easily good enough to stay up. 2 or 3 strategic additions will see us challenging. I certainly don't think everything in the Cappielow garden is rosy but I do beleive that. I am truly sorry that so many of you don't only see that as wrong but as grounds to deliver whatever verbal abuse you wish.

They haven't yet described you as as sad, demented old c*nt, who shags his mother, guys, and sheep in no particular order of preference, daily chugs over to his psychiatrist's office on his rusting, urine sodden mobility scooter, overdoses regularly on negativity pills, has a personal vendetta against Mr Rae, is a racist and BNP activist, victimises defenceless Catholics, and think's he's some kind of deity.

...and before some smart arse gets in his tuppenceworth, I DON'T shag my Mother-well not any more.
mortonjag 2007-08-15 06:07:51
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 14 2007, 07:46 PM) [snapback]316330[/snapback]
Have i missed a whole year somewhere ??? blink.gif
you were spouting the same drivel last season as well & we won the league, IF, and it is a big if, we actually were to win the league this year you'd be spouting the exact same drivel next year, give it up !!!

Eventually Rae & McInally will fail (virtually every manager & chairman do) & eventually you will be proved right, Is that your aim ? to be proved right eventually ?

If this is the club stagnating then i'm all for it.
Once again, good post.

Try this Beermonkey.

'I beg to differ with your repeated, and entirely valid opinions'.

People accuse ME of arrogance! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-15 06:14:29 The prices were perfectly fair, but as usual the negativity boys are on spouting their tiresome uriniferous drivel. Never happier than when they're having a good old moan.

Poor Mr Rae hasn't a bloody chance if you ask me--FFS the old codger's just shelled out 100k for new floodlights-surely he's entitled to get some money from the 'Gate'.
mortonjag 2007-08-15 06:17:09 The official website regularly pops up as a topic for debate.

It's clear that the club has little more than a passing interest in its value.

Until that changes, it won't.
mortonjag 2007-08-15 06:23:39 This IS the 'Mickey Mouse' Cup. Even if we win it, there's little to gain apart from some kudos and publicity.

Last Tuesday we bowed out of a potential money spinner at Dundee, and hardly anybody seems to have noticed.

'We must concentrate on the league' say the mindless brainwashed morons, who still think we're playing at Forfar and Stranraer.

EH!

Are we in SO MUCH danger of relegation?

Are we SO close to being promotion contenders?

A good run in the CIS cup would have been exciting and profitable for us.

Time for some to take a reality check.
mortonjag 2007-08-15 06:27:29
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Aug 13 2007, 05:32 AM) [snapback]315499[/snapback]
That describes us for a full season.

When the boys turn it on we are virtually unbeatable, but let's not forget last Tuesday. I don't see a repeat of Saturday's brilliance but believe we'll win by one goal.

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mortonjag 2007-08-15 06:59:26 JANICE M. Y. SMALL is an anagram of

JAMES MCINALLY
mortonjag 2007-08-15 07:01:49
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 14 2007, 01:38 PM) [snapback]316123[/snapback]
On a slightly more serious note, Buddhism is one of the very few religions that I reckon would solve many of the worlds problems, unlike most other religions that actually create the problems in the first place.

Really can't be arsed typing up why I believe this (plus, I'm busy and don't want to waste my lunchbreak when I could be playing solitaire) but I recommend researching it, even if only to pass the time.

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mortonjag 2007-08-15 07:04:29
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 14 2007, 08:52 PM) [snapback]316397[/snapback]
To paraphrase Douglas Adams, it's enough to enjoy a beautiful garden without believing that there are fairies at the bottom of it.

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mortonjag 2007-08-15 07:11:05 Like WDE, I can get my head round the concept of a 'Higher Power'- the metaphysical is, by definition, unquantifiable.

Strong faith is something which I envy, though I'd NEVER describe it as admirable.

Religion-totally different matter-that's about doing what you're told by folk who don't know any more than you, but think they do.
mortonjag 2007-08-15 07:32:48 Seems everybody's got Mortonjag on 'ignore' right enough.

Thanks for the publicity Greacen-very good effort! wink.gif

Marbellaton-you got ME thinking-two years of posting = ~ 100 weeks

Now homing in on all the 'What are you drinking?', 'Best hangover cures', and 'Nicest places to get smashed in' threads, it seems that many of our posters are 'oot ther faces' for at least 12 hours a week-in some cases undoubtedly FAR more.

In other words, in the time this erudite old gentleman has been making his honest contribution to the education of the average Ton fan, and FREE OF CHARGE at that, many have spent

SEVEN WEEKS OOT THE GEMME


Amazing to think that.

Thankfully alcohol's dirt cheap, or they'd be complaining about being unable to afford the admission prices at football grounds.
mortonjag 2007-08-15 07:37:20
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 14 2007, 08:51 PM) [snapback]316396[/snapback]
Why do people post their private letters of complaint to companies/institutions on here? I think it's a fairly bizarre thing to do. Very odd.

Seems it's a better option than popping them in a post box.
mortonjag 2007-08-15 07:42:19
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 14 2007, 04:56 PM) [snapback]316257[/snapback]
If you think that people on here look apon all or most muslins who come into this country as terrorists then I'm afraid there is no bigger nugget than yourself.
Come on Paul I doubt anyone is fully against religious education being taught in schools, religious education helps break down barriers if it it explores all religions and gives them all the same respect. What people are against is schools who preach one religion, surely you cannot see this to be eduction.

I suppose you could still argue it's education about ONE religion, known otherwise as indoctrination.
mortonjag 2007-08-15 07:46:59
QUOTE(lush @ Aug 14 2007, 07:43 PM) [snapback]316329[/snapback]
When did they start putting meat in them? wink.gif

It's not got anything to do with the food itself Lush-it's those dirty Paisley b*stards not washing their hands properly before they handle it.

The commonest source of E Coli is the Human Jobby, and Pishley's full of them.
mortonjag 2007-08-15 08:06:31
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 15 2007, 07:05 AM) [snapback]316596[/snapback]
You misunderstand smile.gif

I'm delighted by statements of truth, and opinion - but bemused when the two are confused laugh.gif

And as for insinuation... rolleyes.gif

Oblivious to your own perpetual bemusement!
mortonjag 2007-08-15 08:09:17
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 15 2007, 07:11 AM) [snapback]316598[/snapback]
Isn't this in the wrong thread? tongue.gif

Nope-you're bemusing yourself again. Too much self bemusement may make you blinder.
mortonjag 2007-08-15 09:10:44
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 15 2007, 07:29 AM) [snapback]316600[/snapback]
Welcome to the board, and thanks for providing some much-needed balance to the story. Good luck with your enterprise.

I'm pleased that Stan has come into the open on this. It should finally clear the minds of those who still doubted the credibility of the story.

As to 'adding much needed balance', I'm confused. So far as I can see all Stan's saying is that he's trying to be patient and understanding.

'Balance' will only be achieved if we ever receive an acceptable explanation for what appears to have been a catalogue of blunders.
mortonjag 2007-08-15 09:17:50
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 15 2007, 08:39 AM) [snapback]316610[/snapback]
Of course you're at liberty to cross threads, but this is a thread about our chances of winning the Godforsaken Trophy. rolleyes.gif

Your post belongs in a thread berating the shortsightedness of the management in losing to Dundee in the CIS Cup.

And hadn't you already done that?

My comments are valid and a damned sight less 'off topic' that half the stuff we get daily.

I have already done that! Glad SOMEBODY noticed.
mortonjag 2007-08-15 09:24:52
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 15 2007, 08:58 AM) [snapback]316616[/snapback]
Actually, while I do agree that nobody WANTS a defeat, there a number who take the opportunity to delight in telling us how badly JM/ DDFR are managing the club. In my humble opinion, that could be construed as taking pleasure from the defeat.

As for Tonsilitis' post, well...as you say - we obviously interpret things differently.

The 'delight' taken by this (singular noun with the plural verb) 'number', has nothing to do with being happy with the situation. It is merely a legitimate vindication in the face of repeated mindless defences of the indefensible.
mortonjag 2007-08-15 09:27:58
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 15 2007, 09:23 AM) [snapback]316629[/snapback]
Click his name, then click 'ignore user' on the left hand side. Solves many, if not all, problems.

In this case it will give me a little respite from a nigglesome pest!
mortonjag 2007-08-15 09:39:29
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 15 2007, 09:31 AM) [snapback]316633[/snapback]
[b]'Balance' in that we have a first-hand account from one of the main players in this story, instead of the misunderstandings or prejudices of third-parties.[/b]

We also have a clear statement of what was on offer.

All of which helps to assess the (over)reaction to events as we know them.

I see-would you like to 'copy and paste' the misunderstandings or prejudices made by myself or any of the others who knew the story as it unfolded?

Stan Webster and NewTon have been models of patience and courtesy in this whole matter.

The evidence available suggests strongly that GMFC were exactly the opposite. I use the word 'suggests' because we DON'T know yet why things happened, but we certainly know WHAT happened.

If we ever get that explanation, a balanced evaluation will be possible.

If you don't reply I'll assume you've joined the 'huff buttoners'.
mortonjag 2007-08-15 09:46:15
QUOTE(upaclose @ Aug 15 2007, 09:35 AM) [snapback]316634[/snapback]
Like most things on here it's an attention seeking thing. Some people are desperate for the approval/acknowledgement/consideration of others that they'll post s*** like that to see what kind of reaction they get (most hoping for a "back slapping good work fella" type response).

It's a bit like Jordan constantly pouring her heart out to gossip mags about her marriage/illness/obese wean etc. Only with less money and tits obviously.

Last time I looked she only had two-I'm pretty sure I'm not mistaken.
mortonjag 2007-08-15 10:42:49
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Aug 15 2007, 10:09 AM) [snapback]316651[/snapback]
mortonjag

After reading the interesting and well put post from Stan - is this the same story that you could make money selling to a Glasgow Tabloid?

I'm not aware of ever saying that I intended to sell a story to a 'Glasgow Tabloid'.

Stan Webster has added detail to FACT which was made available on this message board.

What has discreetly been kept private is, for the time being, still private, yet you and your ilk continue to prevaricate.

As I asked before, are you deliberately trying our patience?

Yet again this is a puerile attempt to discredit me and the others who are party to some or all of the background story.

I find it difficult to believe that those within GMFC are not aware of this issue, yet I don't hear them rushing to defend their position, something which they are not normally slow to do.

If you have information which you think is helpful towards clarification, please let's have it. If not I suggest you'd be better keeping your nasty little insinuations to yourself.
mortonjag 2007-08-15 10:48:33
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 15 2007, 10:26 AM) [snapback]316663[/snapback]
Tongue in cheek Mr Jag? biggrin.gif

Why would it be 'tongue in cheek' Trumpet?

I believe Morton are pricing their admission fairly. Mr Rae has just shelled out 100k for new floodlights, and he has to attempt to balance his books. Do you expect him to let everybody in for nothing?
mortonjag 2007-08-15 10:51:51
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 15 2007, 10:21 AM) [snapback]316661[/snapback]
Glad to hear it. There have been times when I've wondered. unsure.gif

Don't necessarily disgree with all you "numbers" say, but on the back of Saturday's win it was time to show a bit of grace and let everyone have a moment in the sun.

Saturday's win was excellent-I was delighted with the boys' performance and not short of praise.
mortonjag 2007-08-15 11:00:40 Another good performance from a side minus Mathers, Greacen,McGregor, Stevenson, McLaughlin, and McGowan, from last year's ever presents.

I thought Shields, Walker, and Keenan all looked comfortable, and Hardy played a lot of nice football alongside Spoonsy. Young Graham deserves special mention for a cool goal.
mortonjag 2007-08-15 16:11:12
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 15 2007, 12:08 PM) [snapback]316687[/snapback]
I think the key word in that quote is "could".
I mean, Morton "could" win every game this season.
Dougie Rae "could" spend £250,000 during the last two weeks of the transfer window.
Mortonjag "could" jump off a cliff in despair at your criticism. rolleyes.gif
But then suddenly you change "could" to "going".
When did he say he was "going" to sell anything? unsure.gif
That seems a rather idiotic leaping presumption to make,, and given this IS a serious topic no? unsure.gif

Thanks VT-the man is clearly not quite as accomplished in reading English, as he imagines he is in writing it. rolleyes.gif

I find it irritating when 'bright sparks' like him try to be 'ever so clever' with their prevaricating insinuations, and the minute they're challenged deny liability!!

Absolutely pathetic-this IS a serious thread about what I (for one) think is a serious matter-most of the guys who dislike me have accepted it for that-yet we still get this type of mindless MJ bashing. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-16 07:10:07 Eany meany said--
PS - the paper thing. A statement that goes "If I really had a vendetta...I could..." doesn't really sound like a threat to do anything at all, it's merely dismissing the notion of having said vendetta...

Thanks EM.

It would be nice if for once the more intelligent posters would chuck the MJ bashing on this thread. The thickos can't help it. sad.gif

FAO Trumpet-I regard you as one of the former-chuck it-it's not helping here-tear me to shreds anywhere else you like, and stop putting YOUR spin on it.

Stan Webster's comment-'I understand the situation at GMFC' was just like me saying to you 'I know how you feel' when you're in agony with some pain I've never experienced. It meant he was willing to be understanding of an UNEXPLAINED catalogue of apparent bungles.

It doesn't look as though we'll ever know what went wrong and I abhor that as symptomatic of a chronic incompetence at Cappielow.

Let me summarise the facts-Douglas Rae appeared to enthusiastically accept this offer, and said the wheels would be put in motion. After a full month during which NewTon was in correspondence with various people at the club on numerous occasions, and received several assurances that JM would be in touch, NOTHING had happened. It was only after he again contacted the club to express his disappointment and embarrassment, that Crawford Rae replied in an apologetic manner, making encouraging noises about the future of the idea, but offering no explanation of what had gone amiss.

That's it.

Some of you clearly believe the club have acted perfectly acceptably. Some have accused others of 'attention seeking'.

Even latterly some have seemingly made complete fools of themselves on a serious thread, by trying to deflect from fact and attacking individual posters.

Mr Rae clearly revels in his 'Chairman's Notes', and sees them as a way of speaking to the supporters. It would do him considerable credit, were he to publish an explanation for this offer being 'dead in the water' fully one month after he welcomed it with open arms. Either that, or he could send a personal e-mail to NewTon.
mortonjag 2007-08-16 08:12:32
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Aug 16 2007, 07:23 AM) [snapback]317124[/snapback]
I'm really not sure what you seek to gain from going over the same ground time and time again MJ. Do you believe you will get an explanation of GMFC's actions/lack of actions and if that's what you want would you not be better writing to DDFR direct rather than using the 'rag'?


If I decide to speak privately with Mr Rae, I will regard that as a private matter.

I am not 'going over the same ground again and again'.

On the contrary I've tried to summarise the whole thing as fairly and honestly as I can.

What I'd hoped to gain was respite from posters who seem incapable of approaching the issue dispassionately. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-16 08:18:45
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 15 2007, 11:55 PM) [snapback]317094[/snapback]
You mean you posted this whilst sober?

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mortonjag 2007-08-16 10:00:55
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Aug 15 2007, 08:18 PM) [snapback]316962[/snapback]
Well said. I agree with you totally sad.gif

I would agree, except for the fact that after having taken legal, and presumably medical advice, Rowan's stating categorically he has NOT been ill.

If he wanted to take Gretna to the cleaners, a diagnosis of mental illness would have put his case under the umbrella of the 'Disability Discrimination Act'.
mortonjag 2007-08-16 10:04:05
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 15 2007, 03:17 PM) [snapback]316779[/snapback]
OK, aspects of that may be true.

But in the instance of the Aussie players... the chairman seems all for it but the manager - with whom the decision to carry out a trial seems to rest - is apparently uninterested.

Surely if the autocrat overrode the puppet at every opportunity he'd have the players over regardless of what Jim thought?

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mortonjag 2007-08-16 10:08:22 It doesn't matter whom we play-it's how they play. Don't be fooled by the recent defeat of Stirling in the Cup-they were understrength, and the league is ALL that matters to them this year (to avoid relegation).

Moore's a sharp wee cookie, and knows us well. Pray the boys are up for this one-it will be tight, but again I believe we can win by a goal.
mortonjag 2007-08-16 18:29:22
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 16 2007, 02:55 PM) [snapback]317210[/snapback]
I'd say that's pretty far-fetched.

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mortonjag 2007-08-16 18:41:11 How long will it be before we win a first division championship?

I suppose I can only guess, or maybe dream would be more appropriate.

I do honestly believe that we'll make it back to the Premier League sometime in the future.
mortonjag 2007-08-16 18:53:43 That draw just about sums this cup up.

How I wish we'd taken the Dundee match seriously.
mortonjag 2007-08-16 18:59:20 Against Dunfermline we had at least five excellent chances to bury the ball in the back of the net from a few yards, and opted to pass instead.

If only our players would shoot instead of passing the buck.
mortonjag 2007-08-17 05:25:52
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 16 2007, 11:12 PM) [snapback]317486[/snapback]
Yep. I think this was a devious plan hatched by Mortonjag so that people will give him abuse for making such negative comments and then he will reply with hahaha it was the chairman who said it not me - he must be a negativity boy.

My devious plans are-shall we say-DEVIOUS JT! laugh.gif

I wanted to find out if others believed Shoogly was a bit OTT, and of course suspected a few would, as always, enjoy a go at Mortonjag.

It is of course perfectly in order for Mr Rae to say exactly as he pleases in his programme notes, about his players, for the eager eyes of his fans, the mindless morons who slever and drool at his every utterance.

The fact that he follows this overt criticism of the boys who 'deserve to take us forward' by, 'An exception to this comment is young Brian Graham' suggests that he's quickly recovered from Gowsa fetish! cool.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-17 05:33:01
QUOTE(McCauley87 @ Aug 16 2007, 07:43 PM) [snapback]317381[/snapback]
I wasn't at the game so I don't know if there was cases when players could shoot but opted to pass but even if there was, we won the game and if this is the only negative thing to be said about the Dunfermline game (and it wouldn't have taken mystic meg to know who would make this negative point) then we don't have too many problems. As long as we were keeping possesion by doing this then I see no problem in the players doing this if we still win the game. I'd imagine if they decided to shoot and were unsuccessful you would have been on here complaining about them shooting when they could have passed and kept possesion rather than giving the ball to Dunfermline.

Of your 10,000+ posts that you have made, have you ever actually made a positive one? I think we could go a full season where we win every game and not concede a single goal and you would still be on here comlpaining sayiong it's not good enough. Do us all a favour and stop posting on here, my finger is twitching over the ignore button.

Indeed Eany Meany spotted negativity boy supreme quicker than Gowza can bury a 'sitter' from two inches.
mortonjag 2007-08-17 05:37:23
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 17 2007, 01:06 AM) [snapback]317521[/snapback]
Almost word for word what Douglas Rae said in his programme on Saturday.

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Exactly JT, but it was on the SECOND page!!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-17 05:41:41
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 16 2007, 09:46 PM) [snapback]317463[/snapback]
Re how Morton are managed - MJ v Tonsilitis - arch opponents, nearly mortal enemies!

Re Will Morton make the SPL - MJ and Tonsilitis fully in agreement and GIRUY people younger than us!

In fact very little difference re current squad - we both think we are not far short of a challenging squad.

The only difference is that I am an erudite Accountant and he's a f**king doctor.

Away and excise a boil you old fart!!

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'Excise' a boil' laugh.gif

The only 'excise' you know about goes with customs-one 'lances' a boil-NICKS it even, or 'pricks' a boil and I can think of many pricks I'd like to boil. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-17 05:45:51
QUOTE(carlito @ Aug 17 2007, 12:13 AM) [snapback]317512[/snapback]
Yet another single goal victory... 2-1 to the Ton.

Agree and a hard earned one.
mortonjag 2007-08-17 05:51:55 I don't care who plays-it matters very little, ESPECIALLY against Stirling where attitude will be crucial.

Two points:

1/ Shields was signed as a right back-PLEASE keep him where he's best-we have millions of midfielders already.

2/ If Brian Graham doesn't start, this new Gowsa will definitely be on the bench. He scored a lovely goal on Tuesday, (though still very inexperienced) and is Shoogly's new adoptive Grandson.
mortonjag 2007-08-17 05:59:40
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 16 2007, 06:49 PM) [snapback]317348[/snapback]
I'm god.

Our Father who art in Inverkip
Deego be thy name.
Thy kingdom come
Thy will be done in college as it is in collage
Give us this day 40 'f*d's
And forgive us our anti fuddery
For thine is a website, youth, and a vivid imagination
For ever and ever

Amen.
mortonjag 2007-08-17 08:10:45
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 17 2007, 07:57 AM) [snapback]317536[/snapback]
I think we would be better off without property speculators and private landlords. The only house you should be allowed to own is the one that you live in. I think that might calm the 'market' down.

I live in several houses and a caravan.
mortonjag 2007-08-17 08:12:24 It's good for those Europeans to learn that Scottish Football is not just the OF and Gretna.
mortonjag 2007-08-17 08:18:42 I don't know how much those bricks on the wall at Scapa cost, but maybe I could afford a tinsy winsy one with 'Mortonjag' on it. The endemic myopia would ensure it would stay there for posterity.
mortonjag 2007-08-17 09:39:35
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 17 2007, 08:18 AM) [snapback]317546[/snapback]
I thought you did. All at the same time. laugh.gif

Don't be silly, the most I've ever managed to live in at the same time is four.
mortonjag 2007-08-17 13:07:43
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Aug 17 2007, 12:34 PM) [snapback]317645[/snapback]
How the f*** do you know where he is best, he's hardly played !

http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=62328

Comments from Dundee and Berwick supporters are in better position to comment, all who don't rate him at right back.

I know the opinion of the backroom boys at Hibs before Collins arrived.

Any problem with that, or would you rather turn him into another of McInally's Midfield Midgets?

There again, maybe you're just having an mj bash, which is fine by me, so long as it's not a substitute for your prescribed medication.
mortonjag 2007-08-17 13:17:38
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Aug 17 2007, 01:05 PM) [snapback]317667[/snapback]
Thats the way it has to be. I think Sanny has contributed well enough so far this season, but ultimately he is a striker and he is paid to score. I have been impressed with Graham, although he does look raw, Linn still needs to get up to match sharpness, and Coakley has looked ok without ever looking a real scoring threat. It's painfully obvious that we do need another striker, and maybe a midfielder.

Peter Weatherson is the best striker at the club.
mortonjag 2007-08-17 13:29:05
QUOTE(Tons @ Aug 17 2007, 01:16 PM) [snapback]317671[/snapback]
This is a good laugh but has an interesting side too. It caught some people out who are now a bit quiet.
It's obviously all right for DDFR to say this but not MJ.
People take MJ too seriously. Lighten up or don't reply. Edinton is right.

Ha- a man with 'TONS' of sense.

For what it's worth it wasn't so much intended as a 'wind -up' as an expose of Rae's crass arrogance and stupidity.

Did any of you guys see AT LEAST FIVE SITTERS being missed at East End Park?

We're repeatedly told not to be 'negative' on this 'rag' in case it upsets the players! rolleyes.gif

If GOD almighty Fudgy Wudgy thinks he can publish crap like that with impunity in the Programme-WTF must he be like in the dressing room?




mortonjag 2007-08-17 13:36:22
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Aug 17 2007, 01:25 PM) [snapback]317682[/snapback]
If JM knows this then why doesn't he tell him to screwen up and stop the binge drinking before it ruins his career. I remember him being much fitter when he first arrived at the club...

Those were my thoughts the minute JM came out with that statement about 'being elsewhere if he was fitter'.

Amazing how the lies at Scapa gradually surface-we were repeatedly told the Manager played him at right back because that's where he was best.

We've also been told JM's a hard task master and strict disciplinarian, with a superfit squad who rarely get injured because of an erstwhile unparallelled training regime, including state of the art facilities in Dundee on JM's back doorstep. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-17 13:42:37
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Aug 17 2007, 01:21 PM) [snapback]317677[/snapback]
That much is true but wee Shields' height doesnt seem to be too much of a disadvantage huh.gif

I agree-it's NOT, and in some ways he reminds me of Davie Hayes in his style. The wee man doesn't get carried away with himself and sticks to his man like glue-I can't think of anybody we have who will cope better with a tricky winger.

I'm just worried that history will repeat itself HH!
mortonjag 2007-08-17 13:48:18
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 17 2007, 01:16 PM) [snapback]317673[/snapback]
That's crazy talk man.

There's loads of people who can't get / don't want a mortgage and have to rent a property. People who have ustable income, move around a lot, don't have much savings, already own a property, waiting on inheritence etc.

Also, the reason for increased property prices was the ridiculously low interest rates (which Gordon Brown was so proud about), and the trend of people moving out of their family home and living on their own (causing a shortage of properties).

Yes, the buy to let market has topped this up, but in reality if it wasn't for the two trends above then the buy to let people wouldn't have much of a market.

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Tell that to anybody who was trying to buy a hoose in 1979!!!
mortonjag 2007-08-17 13:49:59 I just received an e-mail from someone in Greenock.
mortonjag 2007-08-17 13:51:59
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 17 2007, 12:51 PM) [snapback]317658[/snapback]
I think they are around 30 quid !! We could always chip in with the Newt and have SEDITION as our monogramme . laugh.gif

I doubt if Shoogly would be 'bricking it'!
mortonjag 2007-08-17 14:27:11
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Aug 17 2007, 01:45 PM) [snapback]317695[/snapback]
It happens at every football club in Britain at every level. Look at the way Ferguson stood by Cantona and Smith stood by Gazza at Ibrox. When a player has obvious talent, they can do what they want so long as they produce. Despite his lifestyle he is still our most valuable player (although I suspect McAllister may challenge for that title this season) but the fact remains he is not fit enough to last upfront. I have no doubts that Peter would be in the SPL by now if he applied himself correctly. What we need is someone with pace to play alongside Templeman who has found his way as a good target man. Another effective way to go would be to find another tall but stronger player to act as a foil for Templeman and between them give defenders hell. Templeman's biggest improvement is that he's toughened up but he still can't jump or run.


Hmm-I actually agree with most of that, so why don't we offer Ayr a toty wee bit of the Gowsa fund for Alex Williams?
mortonjag 2007-08-17 14:37:02
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 17 2007, 02:17 PM) [snapback]317711[/snapback]
DDFR must be an advocate of
Don't do as I do .
Do as I say .
Hypocracy or what

Naive hypocrite?-in some ways quite a refreshing deviation from the norm for a septagenagian.

'What we found to be particularly upsetting was that we did the paying of Jani's expenses, yet Dundee gate crashed our negotiations at absolutely no cost to their club'.

Aw Shoogly-you poor old soul-somebody stole your scone!

Mind you, had you been an ASTUTE BUSINESS MAN-I guess I'd have had no sympathy at all. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-17 14:39:42
QUOTE(StuMac @ Aug 17 2007, 02:33 PM) [snapback]317718[/snapback]
Next we'll have a 'bring back Alex William' thread!!

Are you Mystic Meg?
mortonjag 2007-08-17 14:46:19
QUOTE(rex manning @ Aug 17 2007, 02:29 PM) [snapback]317717[/snapback]
He does look good in shorts.

His away strip shorts almost cover his knees-almost like they did in the old Stanley Mathews days.

I think the wee man already has the makings of a Scapa personality. Even after getting his MOM award announced on Tuesday, he ran off with a matter of fact expression-as if he plays like that all the time anyway, so what was all the fuss about!
mortonjag 2007-08-17 14:50:11
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 17 2007, 02:40 PM) [snapback]317721[/snapback]
You misunderstand me. I'm not saying no landlords, I'm saying property for rent should be socially owned and administered and be publicly accountable.

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Wonderful idea DE, but what is this public accountability thing-are there any examples of how it works?

Oh and by the way, if I want to rent my tent to you at half the going rate, will they force me to apply their tables and lock me up if I don't?
mortonjag 2007-08-17 14:52:56 Mortonjag rarely watches films-the truth is stranger than fiction.

The Sound of Music was superb.
mortonjag 2007-08-17 15:06:14
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 17 2007, 03:00 PM) [snapback]317728[/snapback]
I disagree, Eisenstein's work is superb on an artistic front, we're agreed there, but Riefenstahl's cinematography is stunning. We would both disagree with riefennstahl's politics but, like Eisenstein she was a great cinematographer.
Olympiad proves that too.

DE, if you want a DVD copy of "Triumph of the Will" p.m. me.

As for loach, Kes is one of the milestones of sixties' cinema.
After that he went downhill, his desire to evangelise overcame his artistic sense.

Slightly off topic Mr. Bam, as I don't understand a word of all this highbrow pish-when are you going to change your Avatar-wee Gowsa's no comin' back?
mortonjag 2007-08-17 15:08:09 75% of our regular posters seem to be missing.

Are the schools back or something?
mortonjag 2007-08-17 15:10:06
QUOTE(MIFTHEBINO @ Aug 17 2007, 03:05 PM) [snapback]317729[/snapback]
Stirling 2v1 Morton

Crowd- 2256

MIF- is it correct that we'll get parked ok, behind the away stand?

Also, how has Lilley been playing?
mortonjag 2007-08-17 15:22:51
QUOTE(MIFTHEBINO @ Aug 17 2007, 03:13 PM) [snapback]317736[/snapback]
Parking in the away end is as normal, but I think you guys will bring a very large support with you so I would advise everyone to be at the gates for 2-30pm to get into the stand (or face being put in the terracing!).

Lilley has been fantastic to date, although he hasn't looked like scoring. He holds the ball up well and sets up play for the other striker. I'm glad we have signed him.

It's good to hear-he always put in an honest shift for us, and took too much unfair criticism.
mortonjag 2007-08-17 15:24:10
QUOTE(StuMac @ Aug 17 2007, 03:09 PM) [snapback]317732[/snapback]
No there is a power cut in Ravenscraig laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2007-08-17 15:29:46
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 17 2007, 10:11 AM) [snapback]317604[/snapback]
Such a mercenary. Would you sell your soul for a sausage roll ? (soul I said) tongue.gif

No..nor my birthright for a mess of potage, but for promotion I'd sell my Granny in a slave market-though I'd need an exhumation order I suppose.
mortonjag 2007-08-17 15:35:47
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Aug 16 2007, 07:47 PM) [snapback]317388[/snapback]
Sorry Newton, but that's garbage. The USA aside, the buy to let market remains healthy and demand still outstrips supply. The growth may slow to an almost static but a collapse is not in the offing. For that we would need significantly higher interest & inflation rates as well as far higher unemplyment rates. As someone in the industry, the global property market remains strong.

....presumably because you failed higher English Ratarse wink.gif

BTW I'd not argue with Newt-don't be fooled by his on line persona-just like myself and a very few others, he is a man of considerable distinction in his chosen field. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-17 15:38:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 17 2007, 03:31 PM) [snapback]317746[/snapback]
examples of how it works ???

Morton FC ?

......they think public accountability's about the sum total of Shoogly's bawhairs.


...the word SPARSE springs to mind!
mortonjag 2007-08-17 15:40:36
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 17 2007, 03:36 PM) [snapback]317751[/snapback]
Yes,I would lock you up without hesitation. laugh.gif

You wouldn't DARE- the monkey would bite you.
mortonjag 2007-08-17 15:43:14
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Aug 17 2007, 03:38 PM) [snapback]317755[/snapback]
Given that the markets have already bounced back somewhat and no-one is panicking, I'd be tempted to take you up on your offer, if only I had that sort of spare cash. With your willingness to enter in to such a large bet perhaps you should get a job in Credit Risk Analysis. It seems your sort of attitude of throwing away money would fit in well.

Oh dear-poor Ratarse is a global prorety market tycoon who thinks $10.000 is big money.

Mind you some folk think 'Fudgy Wudgy's a 'household name'!
mortonjag 2007-08-17 15:51:01
QUOTE(theyorkshirepudding @ May 29 2007, 06:06 PM) [snapback]280682[/snapback]
having seen the diamonds a number of times last season I wouldn't touch any of them. McPhee is past his prime, as is Lovering - Second Division is their level now. Taylor is a crock and Twigg is inconsistent. Christie would be worth a short-term deal if he can prove his fitness.

AND?



....so is Russell Latapy-to name but one.

BTW how is your professional relationship with JM doing?
mortonjag 2007-08-17 15:52:24
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Aug 17 2007, 03:48 PM) [snapback]317762[/snapback]
BOO

Shut up, or I'll write a poem about you. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-17 15:54:45
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Aug 17 2007, 03:44 PM) [snapback]317758[/snapback]
Aye good try Dr Crippen, I never said I was a property tycoon, I said I worked in the industry. My property empire extends to my house and I seem to do well at making money for others.

A forger-what's your 'phone no?

Drat-that DE beat me-and it's Dr Crippen-Shipman BTW.
mortonjag 2007-08-17 16:06:10 I suspect DMC that you're one of the happy band of 'huff buttoners' but I'm delighted to hear you've finally grown up.

Congratulations!
mortonjag 2007-08-17 16:08:28
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Aug 17 2007, 04:02 PM) [snapback]317769[/snapback]
please do!

edit to add - i didnt actually write that one about you - i b@stardised a beatles song!

Don't be modest, you did very well-considering..! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-17 16:09:00
QUOTE(GMC @ Aug 17 2007, 04:04 PM) [snapback]317770[/snapback]
You more than make up for it though.

TY, I love getting compliments.
mortonjag 2007-08-18 06:45:09
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Aug 17 2007, 04:20 PM) [snapback]317779[/snapback]
I think a lot of posters have chucked to be honest - wonder why ?

The children are plainly terrified by your avatar and signature.
mortonjag 2007-08-18 06:50:47
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Aug 17 2007, 08:47 PM) [snapback]317872[/snapback]
Spot on scott a bit of common sense on this one 2 goals in 2 league games is not a bad return for a right back and he is not finished yet lets just lap it up while we can and not moan about his position

Yet again stating fact (as confirmed by no less than JM) is described as 'moaning'.

Do you understand the meaning of Procrustean?
mortonjag 2007-08-18 06:59:44 We've not had a striker who really hassles the goalie since Alex Williams left-another area of our game where we miss potential chances.
mortonjag 2007-08-18 07:05:55
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 17 2007, 10:35 PM) [snapback]317922[/snapback]
Let's hope Myles Hogarth gets injured in the warm-up as Scott Christie is pish!!

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mortonjag 2007-08-18 07:12:24
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 17 2007, 04:09 PM) [snapback]317776[/snapback]
Updated to another hero.

Wandered through the Placa George Orwell in Barca in July. My own wee homage to Catalonia. Had a few glasses o' the warm south to the memory of George, DE's dad and the other chaps who fought there.

Mr Bam, I well recall having to make an overnight visit to confirm a death.

The destination was a large villa in Newlands, and as my driver pulled up outside the gate he commented drily-'Wasn't a very good year for him then'.

On each stone gatepost, he'd spotted 'Orwell'-and of course it was 23 years ago!

How time flies.
mortonjag 2007-08-18 07:26:30
QUOTE(HamCam @ Aug 17 2007, 05:50 PM) [snapback]317805[/snapback]
DE I take it you have the security of a final salary scheme and have no need to consider alternative ways to look after yourself in your dottage ? Restricting folk to one house has to be a laugh as where would our politicians stick the cash for honours.

Basic economics involving supply and demand explains recent property rises. Buy to let do not restrict the market they just offer an alternative product. Answer is simple and even the government has accepted it - build more housing.
Rasta if you are involved in the property world the suggestion that buy to let is almost single handedly to blame for house price inflation beggars belief. Not sure where to start with such a misunderstanding of the market. Supply - demand curve, most landlords choose private not DSS tenants with appropriate references, landlords have a vested interest in looking after the property as afterall that is the basis of the investment.......

What is the tax relief you refer to ?
Sweet mother of Andy Ritchie I agree with Tonsilitis.

Many new build flats and it is generally flats have been subject to deposit speculators. Sometimes you win sometimes you lose but that is how capitalism works. However you look at it though it does not impact on the supply chain!

Northern Rock have always been at the cutting edge of lending and in the current market they are paying the price with rumours of a profits warning. As with the US sub-prime markets the UK also has parties willing to lend more to others and to folk with maybe not the best credit rating.
The majority of Europe is not owner occupied but a tenanted market. Seems to work ok just the UK that is obsessed with owning bricks and mortar. Many folk do prefer to lease and not buy.

In the current market leasing can offer better value for money than buying.
Do you mind confirming what it is you do Rasta ? You a surveyor ?

As for my response to the above - baws.
Just like the good old days when much of the stock was sub-standard, the government decided to build high flats, New Towns etc. Unless you are out there on the left all major parties believe the best provider of housing is not public bodies.

Ideal market accommodates both private and public sectors. Government just needs to fund RSL's or similar bodies.

How refreshing to hear a man speak from personal knowledge and experience and survive for over twelve hours without being accused of 'spouting pish'!
mortonjag 2007-08-18 07:28:11
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Aug 17 2007, 05:52 PM) [snapback]317806[/snapback]
Freddie Mercury (Farrokh Bulsara) originally wanted to take the stage name Freddie Saturn, but the name had already been taken by a Las Vegas illusionist who had achieved moderate success performing at casino's in the early 1970's.

Female blackbirds are brown.
mortonjag 2007-08-18 07:29:55 Many happy returns neighbour!
mortonjag 2007-08-18 07:45:20
Ms Wendy Alexander MSP Wendy Alexander has been an MSP since the Parliament was created and served as a Minister from 1999-2002. in a variety of roles. She has been shadow finance and sustainable growth spokesperson since May 2007.

She is particularly interested in taking a long-term look at Scotland's future and how we can create a smart, successful Scottish economy. In 2005 she co-edited 'New Wealth for Old Nations (PUP)', the book that emerged from the Allander Series on the Scottish economy. She also edited 'Donald Dewar Scotland's First First Minister' (Mainstream 2005).

In the decade before she was elected Wendy worked in the private, voluntary and public sectors and in the 1990s she worked for an international management consultancy, undertaking assignments in Europe, Asia, North America and Australasia.

Wendy is married to Professor Brian Ashcroft and has two children. Away from politics she is a keen, if amateur, ornithologist, regarding the peace and quiet as a perfect tonic to the political world.

As constituency MSP for the communities of Linwood, Renfrew and part of Paisley she and her staff run a busy constituency office and hold weekly surgeries.

This introduction was written by Ms Wendy Alexander MSP and is current as of June 2007



Trendy Wendy-Lady Peter Pan of Dowanhill, married to a University Professor and SOCIALISTE PAR EXCELLENCE! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-19 08:09:46
QUOTE(Capuan @ Aug 18 2007, 09:14 PM) [snapback]318582[/snapback]
i'm afraid that fielding a 4-5-1 formation and settling for a 0-0 draw after an hour highlights the lack of ambition that is currently present within our club. This very poor stirling team should have been there for the taking today but instead McInally seemed perfectly happy to put men behind the ball and pump it up front to Templeman whom the stirling defence were all over. He was given no support thru the middle and when he dropped back or out wide we simply played without any strikers. From half time onwards we simply did not look like scoring but rather than change things around we stuck with the same tactics only making straight subsitutions when legs were tired,

I'm not having a dig at any players as I can not single out a bad performer on the field but instead the manager should take the rap here for having dropped 2 points.

Spot on IMO! wink.gif

I can understand people being frustrated that we didn't push for the win today, however after eventually getting out of the 2nd division and making a good start to the season (with a few injuries) Jim has earned the right to use these tactics today

Really! laugh.gif


With half an hour left this game was there for the taking-we could be equal top of the league right now. I would have moved Spoonsy up beside the tiring Sanny, dropped Jay to right back (I thought he was outstanding yesterday), and put Bobby Linn in for Jamie.

Yesterday the biggest negativity boy was SITTING in the dugout wearing his usual perplexed frown.
mortonjag 2007-08-19 08:19:32
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Aug 18 2007, 10:14 AM) [snapback]317986[/snapback]
My oh my mj big patronising words again is that something that lives in the sea ......no i dont know the meaning but i am sure you will tell me and probably half the board what it means. Spoons is fine where he is

It means MAKING things fit the way you want them to!

Peter yet again made a 'schoolboy' right back error yesterday about twenty minutes from the end allowing the left winger to skin him easily-Stirling could well have taken all three points from that one gaffe.

I'm a huge fan of Spoonsy who was, is, and always will be a striker.

We had the game well under control yesterday and in the last half hour we desperately needed a striker alongside Sanny.

What did JM do?

Kept the 'best striker in the squad'-HIS OWN WORDS- at right back! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-19 08:24:40
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 18 2007, 06:54 PM) [snapback]318408[/snapback]
Is there any point in buying another striker when JM persists with ONE upfront ??

Is there any point in persisting with JM?
mortonjag 2007-08-19 08:29:10
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Aug 18 2007, 07:18 PM) [snapback]318426[/snapback]
Where was this coming from, i was on the left side of the stand and only heard the booing at the end from down the front of us and thats why i thought it was towards the ref, i was pissed off at the Attitude from JM but nothing worth spouting about.

The only booing I heard was immediately when that p***k blew his final whistle. I was sure it was directed at him.
mortonjag 2007-08-19 08:30:41
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 18 2007, 08:16 PM) [snapback]318473[/snapback]
i watched the kilmarnock game again yesterday and the commentator said " i was talking to JM yesterday and he said he was going to play his usual game theyve been playing in the league and go for it and to be fair thats exactly what he's done " or something along those lines.

i liked that about us, although maybe against dunfermline and teams like that its okay to be a bit more cautious but not against the likes of stirling imo.

then again 7 points out of 9 dont lie and im very happy with that and the performances of the team and i like that we can now defend a lead and sit back sometimes.

total contradiction of a post but ah well laugh.gif

JM is a past master of contradiction-just says the first thing that comes into his head at times IMO.
mortonjag 2007-08-19 08:34:51
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Aug 18 2007, 09:07 PM) [snapback]318571[/snapback]
My thoughts exactly. Stirling haven't lost a game.
They're at home .
We've struggled against them.
We haven't got our strongest squad .
We got a point.
We still haven't lost game.
I would have thought a draw was a 'result' given the above. I concur with Harding and the original poster.

We DIDN'T struggle-we were never under the cosh-the game was there for the asking-I get fed up with those post match squabbles about individual players-there were no failures on the park yesterday.

The players and fans were again cheated by managerial ineptitude.
mortonjag 2007-08-19 08:58:46 I can honestly say 'Je ne regrette rien'.


Mind you I've made more mistakes than JM, and that's saying something!
mortonjag 2007-08-19 09:07:51
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Aug 18 2007, 01:53 PM) [snapback]318044[/snapback]
Thanks for the patronising response HamCam. It seems folk on here at experts at everything from telling McInally and Doogie Rae how to run a football team and now being property experts too after watching a few programmes on TV. Your argument that it's a simple case of supply & demand is basic and naive. There is far much more to rising property costs than simply an under supply. The fact the under supply exists in the first place is largely due to buy to lets buying up property that could be bought by first time buyers - remember the majority of buy to let properties are flats of varying quality and properties at the lower end of the scale.

The European market is far from perfect - France for example where archaic property laws prohibit the sale and purchase of property anywhere near the scale seen in the UK and this results in a flat market with property retained within the family.

Are you saying the right to buy council houses has not heavily contributed the supply of good available stock?

In answer to your question, yes I am a surveyor (not a spiv estate agency type though). I know what I'm talking about and can produce paper after paper by the CIOB, RICS, the Government, etc to show the real cause and effect.

The tax relief I refer to is that with Buy to lets the interest the mortgage on the BtL property is tax deductible as an expense against the rental income. This allows many to outbid first time buyers. It's a tax loophole that many MSPs and MPs are trying to close so as to protect owner occupiers a bit more.

You don't have to be "out there on the left" to believe that the State has a responsibility to provide affordable housing. Perhaps you're not aware but many local authorities in Scotland and England are embarking or about to embark on increasing the council housing stock. West Lothian are one that spring to mind where the council rather than HAs are building social housing.

I can produce paper after paper after paper after paper after paper from so called experts in any field, which have proved to be complete, (and often deliberately fiddled) rubbish Ratarse.

The experts once 'knew' the earth was flat. It doesn't take a genius to see that buying property and leaving it speculatively empty removes it from other purchasers for long periods, so some degree of stagnation is caused, and of course the poor surveyors see their potential earnings drop in consequence! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-19 14:13:36
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 19 2007, 11:04 AM) [snapback]318893[/snapback]
Moore was happy with a point and knew how not to fall for the 4-5-1 bait.
He didn't commit too many players forward and it stopped our threat on the counter.
Taggatr also stopped Spoonsy's threat.
He's just more astute than JM. dry.gif

Seem to be quite a few around. I got slammed last year for saying I believed that. Look what's apparently happening at Partick, for example.

There again, maybe 'We just have to grind out results' this season because St James of the Immaculate Gameplan hasn't got one, and sticks by a squad of midfield 'misfits'.

Jay Shields was a revelation yesterday, but since JM will persist with Spoonsy (his best striker) at right back, Jay may well become another problem, rather than an asset. After all, McAnespie's the BIG signing, so Shoogly will expect him to play, and Scotty's an ever present-oh and I forgot the new holding midfielder McGregor, to add to Jamie, Jimbo, and Midge.

How many f*cking midfielders have you got now McInally-have you NEVER heard of full backs or wingers-oh I see, Shields is a full back-could have fooled me yesterday!!

And we desperately need an experienced central defender who can play alongside Harding, who was, incidentally today's Sunday Mail MOTM.
mortonjag 2007-08-19 14:19:15
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Aug 19 2007, 12:11 PM) [snapback]318943[/snapback]
I think he should be played up front mortonjag, I do, but surely you're not just going to justify it by saying JM said so? laugh.gif

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A VERY good point!!
mortonjag 2007-08-19 14:28:11
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 19 2007, 10:33 AM) [snapback]318882[/snapback]
A couple of points from yesyerday

1) Spoonsy was not allowed the room to come forward much into the attack because Stirling put Taggart right on top of him for most of the match. He only got forward when Taggart was subbed. Good tactics from Moore/Stirling which worked and cut out our main goal threat!

2) I think those who are criticising the defence and the likes of Walker should recall the conditions. They were dire for defenders especially and the fact we did not concede or even allow Stirling more than a couple of half chances in the whole game speaks volumes.

3) I thought when we stepped up the referees would get better but that clown yesterday was the worst so far. I have seldom seen so many wrong decisions in one match. Maybe the conditions did'nt help the officals either.

Thats seven points from 3 games, two of which have been away from home. We've now got two home games in a row and if we win those there is every chance we will be top of the league after 5 matches. Anyone not have settled for that before the start of the season?

Its time to get off the manager and player's backs. The manager in particular can see that we need a striker and he has been telling us that the whole summer when numerous posters on here have been shouting for fullbacks, centre backs, midfielders etc. He's tried to get several strikers and missed out for whatever reason. I think we need to cut him a bit of slack.

We have goalscorers in Linn, Templeman, and Weatherson, the latter being the best striker in the squad. Would this wonderful managerial talent not have better spent 'the whole summer insisting on him 'getting fit'. In addition, we've signed Coakley, and Mr Rae assures us that young Graham is the best sharpshooter at the club-and let's face it Mr Rae always gets it right.

The present manager is a prime example! laugh.gif

mortonjag 2007-08-19 14:35:06
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Aug 19 2007, 02:31 PM) [snapback]319030[/snapback]
I think Millar won more tackles than Shields yesterday, but only statistics will tell. And Millar has always been underestimated for not going in for enough tackles.

LOOK AT THE HEIGHT AND BUILD OF HIM FCUKNUT!! Would you praise him more if he went in for a 50/50 challenge with a big burly centre half and broke his leg, adding to our injury problems? NO! You would call him an idiot for his stupidity! He has a good footballing brain and knows where and when to tackle. You don't.

Come come, children-their styles of play differ as much as their physiques. Midge has tons of talent but he's never a 'mixer'. Wee Shields was 'immense' at times yesterday-the only guy who was controlling the ball and looking for openings right up to the final whistle. My MOTM by a country mile.
mortonjag 2007-08-19 14:43:11
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Aug 19 2007, 02:16 PM) [snapback]319011[/snapback]
What a bunch of t!ts huh.gif (Sunday Mail mj wink.gif )

Greacen is a better defender, bombscare though he is. Get a better 'footballing' centre half to partner him dry.gif

Harding was far from the best player yesterday, though he didn't play terribly either.

I DO rate Ryan, but no way was he my MOTM yesterday either.
mortonjag 2007-08-19 14:52:51
QUOTE(nani @ Aug 19 2007, 02:35 PM) [snapback]319037[/snapback]
Morton Jag I have a question....has McInally been doing dirty things with your missus? It would appear that irrespective of the topic you very quickly turn it into "lets sack the manager"....there cannot be too many managers who get this level of abuse having won a league and presided over a very good start in a higher division. So I can only assume it is personal....have to say mate it is pretty tiresome.
Noted in the Sunday Mason that Imrie may be a Ton player by the end of the week....hope it is the first of two strikers....as far as Temps goes....he aint worth a place in the team as a midfielder (wot a joke!) or a striker. Would like to see Linn get a run of games in order that we can assess him properly....Graham is just a boy and Coakley only short term cover. By his own admission Spoonsy does not like playing as a striker....hence we need two and if we could get shot of Temps considerable wages all the better...but exactly who would want him?

ANSWER-my Missus hasn't told me if he has, and if his shagging's as easily sussed as his tactics, I'd have found them out by now.

Oh and while I'm on, I NEVER gratify myself at the expense of individual players as you've just done.

Maybe that's because I'm mature enough to see good and bad points in EVERY player.

Have you ever tried thinking for yourself BTW? It opens whole new avenues in life.
mortonjag 2007-08-20 06:17:38
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 19 2007, 02:43 PM) [snapback]319056[/snapback]
Sorry, but you are talking p1sh as usual and trying to turn a decent away result and good start to the season into more thinly disguised 'McInally is crap' comments.

Stirling were capable of winning that game however were made to look relatively slugglish as we had such a packed midfield and good defence.

Had we pushed another up, perhaps there would have been a result either way but I don't think you could say it would have def been for us. Away from home against decent sides we have had almost no results over the last couple of years so to take 4 points from Stirling and Dunfermline is brilliant and much better than anyone could have imagined.

The time to be gung ho is when we need a result, or are playing at home, not away from home and risk turning a good start to the season into a confidence sapping late defeat.

I don't really care if we are top of the league, we won't be there at the end of the season and can't afford to be given the ground requirements. We don't have to take silly risks at this stage in the season when our squad is threadbare as it is.



Spoonsy has shown he is far more valuable at right back. It's good that we have the option of playing Jay at right back, but with midfielders injured it was a good move to play the side he did. Perhaps next week, we may push Spoonsy up and Jay can slot in at right back.

Both Walker and Spoonsy have been brilliant at full back. What does it matter if they are also midfielders, they are playing well at full back and your comments sound really crtical of these two guys who are not problem players for us under any circumstances.

As for your comments about the defence, please tell me HOW MANY FCKING GOALS HAVE WE CONCEEDED IN THE LAST 3 GAMES? I can't remember. We have a fantastic defence so stop talking p1sh!

OK I give in-I'm talking pish as usual.

I'd like you to present the case for the Shoogly show mind you, instead of just being a silly wee boy.

It's as simple as this, if we WERE going for promotion, I'd perhaps agree that keeping one point was more important than gambling on getting three, but it seems crystal clear we're not.

So what's the script.

The way I see it is that JM's just covering his OWN arse-he doesn't seem to give a f*ck about the players thoughts and feelings, let alone those of the fans. Yesterday he was quoted as being 'Pleased' with this result.

Frankly I DO hope he leaves us soon. I'm fed up and frustrated by his negative pish. I like watching good football, and seeing goals, AND I pay my money to get in.
mortonjag 2007-08-20 06:29:54
QUOTE(e_f @ Aug 19 2007, 03:53 PM) [snapback]319089[/snapback]
Bobby Linn has proved his worth with other teams as a goal scorer. Stikers, more than other positions, need a good run of games to get started. He's not had that chance here since he signed.

He's vastly more experienced than Shoogly's new pet-that's for sure.
mortonjag 2007-08-20 07:06:00 When JM arrived, I was expecting big things-we'd had problems in the dressing room and so on-it seemed a good appointment. Within about four games (at a time when I was still highly supportive of him), it became obvious that he was an extremely cautious and conservative Manager. I sensed he was just feeling his way-Cowboy had got into the habit of double and even treble substitutions in the second half if the game needed changing, and JM initially stubbornly refused to change anything around.

Cowboy also believed in wing play, and in use of the through ball-some of the football we played under his eye was a delight to watch-and I'd suggest it was hardly entirely his fault that things went 'pear shaped'.

I believe that Jim McInally has learned very little. Whether he has free rein in signing policy, team selection, and tactics is uncertain, but there are MANY unanswered questions and I'm NOT the only one asking them!

Well here's another. What ARE we trying to achieve this season? We made no effort to progress in a potential money spinner at Dundee, then got all excited because Shoogly's new pet scored a cracker in the Mickey Mouse Cup to get that jackpot journey to Peterhead that I CERTAINLY won't be making-and I hardly miss an away game.

Rae says in the programme notes that the appropriate verb for SPL ambitions right now is 'To Dream'. He believes we'll get there 'Some time in the future'.

RIGHT Gentlemen, if we're not going to put out a side who are allowed to play adventurous and attractive football, and we're not going to be ambitious EITHER, interest is going to wane-haven't you noticed it's happening already AFTER promotion? The crowd at Stirling was pretty s***ty by any standards, and against Livvy, it was dire. I can't be arsed listening to excuses-THOSE ARE FACTS.

So we've signed almost nobody, and we're going to 'grind out results again' as a knock on effect?

Having offered some 100k for Gowsa, I STILL BELIEVE three or four decent signings could see us challenge for promotion.

One would be Alan Moore.
mortonjag 2007-08-20 07:16:39
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Aug 19 2007, 10:30 PM) [snapback]319389[/snapback]
Mate I was told by a Motherwell supporting work-mate, about a week before that article was published, that we had offered Coakley training facilities for pre-season.

The only reason i can think of for Rae denying the story is that Coakley had knocked us back as Thistle were apparently going to sign him a few days later, but subsequently rejected him after seeing him in training ph34r.gif

I can think of a much simpler reason, since it clearly was incorrect! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-20 07:19:48
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Aug 19 2007, 07:18 PM) [snapback]319218[/snapback]
Reminds me of you actually. mad.gif

Sorry itchy baws-I may be guilty of multiple offences, but I don't NEED to contradict myself-I just call it as I see it.
mortonjag 2007-08-20 07:21:54
QUOTE(nani @ Aug 19 2007, 08:26 PM) [snapback]319263[/snapback]
Hey Jaggo,

I move onto another thread and here you are again mumping about McInally. Templeman - goalscorer...not with us he aint been...Linn....not with us he aint been....Weatherson...even he doesnt want to be a striker never mind the manager....Coakley....short term contract to have a look a la Russell last season.....Graham...young reserve only playing due to dearth of strikers. Your mate the Viking talks as much pish as you....chasing pipe dreams (Mensing/Sutton/McGowan I assume)....how dare McInally show some ambition by trying to sign quality...what a half wit eh? Sturm...pipedream...dont think so....Imrie....dont think so....so Viking Boy...do you have a list of acceptable targets....not too good but not too bad I presume? Love to hear the names O intelligent one!
Jaggo...you should be able to move on to another thread now and slag Jim....Stirling Albion Programme...try there!

I can hardly be arsed gracing you with a response, but you'll be 'awful upset' if I don't, so--

Have a nice day.
mortonjag 2007-08-20 07:29:14
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 19 2007, 10:59 PM) [snapback]319397[/snapback]
Some of McInally's decisions do mistify me (including Saturday's formation) but I'm not going to join in any witch hunt. Especially with the brilliant result and performance from East End Park still fresh in my mind.

I thought a 'witch hunt' was unfair discrimination against innocent women, just because they didn't fit the perceived norm.

IMO JM is far from innocent, and the results of those bloody spells he casts week in week out are about as predictable as the weather.
mortonjag 2007-08-20 07:33:20 Eleven more days to sign a winger, a central defender, and an experienced holding midfielder-

oh and a left back, and ANOTHER winger, and maybe even a striker.
mortonjag 2007-08-20 07:39:47 This is one of the first away games I'm missing in ages. My brother can't go, so Id be driving there and back on my own-about £30 quid's worth of petrol plus admission, programme, pie and Bovril. If I could guarantee an exciting victory, I'd be there.

Sorry to Big Stu and the lads mind you.
mortonjag 2007-08-20 07:55:18
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 20 2007, 07:43 AM) [snapback]319436[/snapback]
Well done, you got something right as usual.

Eh, we are undefeated in 3 games after being promoted. I rest my case.

Now back to your cave you fckwit!

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Archetypal response from a wean who hasn't a clue how to answer perfectly legitimate questions. As I said to another poster-'Have a nice day'!
mortonjag 2007-08-20 08:16:39
QUOTE(honosthemis @ Aug 19 2007, 01:28 PM) [snapback]318976[/snapback]
Great post mate. It'd put tits on a hieland bull wading through the s***e he posts. Biggest bring down on this site.

And what's your real identity?

Half a dozen posts all directed at poor old Mortonjag isn't exactly an erudite contribution, but at least you made Jesus laugh.

Come to think of it, all that stuff about fundamental Christianity may have induced pre-senile dementia.

May I suggest without prejudice that you are a pair of creepy crawlies?
mortonjag 2007-08-20 15:20:08
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Aug 20 2007, 08:42 AM) [snapback]319450[/snapback]
I'm no great defender of JM as a tactician but given that he's had a fair bit of stick after walking away from Stirling last season with nil points in the last game, then maybe he's entitled to cover his arse. He's decided to set his stall out as making us difficult to breakdown and until we've played all the sides and seen what they have to offer it's not the worst tactic. I can't really get too uptight if he's happy he got a point on Saturday.

As for not caring about the players feelings/thoughts, I'm not really sure where this comes from but if true good. He's running a football team not some psycho therapy session.

As I've said before you may want him to leave but as usual you put up no credible alternatives that will not deplete whatever we have for strengthening the team.

ps We all pay our money to get in and we all want to see good football but few of us ride the one trick pony as well as you MJ.

For an apparently intelligent poster, that's a ridiculous comment. The alternative is a manager who has experience. I've said before it's not my job to pick one, but if it was, I've already mentioned Alan Moore-only one of many who have achieved FAR more from FAR less in a shorter time.

I heard you before-I KNOW we'd have to pay a year's salary to JM and his sidekick, but given 80k + for McGowan was available, and that an incomer could IMHO, have us playing attractive football with increasing gates in a relatively short time, that's just a red herring.

Time will tell, but if we're not after promotion this season (as stated by Rae) any facade of 'consolidation' should surely include an attempt to increase our income through the gates, instead of continuing to throw good money away on two salaries.
mortonjag 2007-08-21 06:12:08
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 20 2007, 05:08 PM) [snapback]319620[/snapback]
Who says we wouldn't win the league by 16 points, groundshare at Rugby Park and win the SPL?
When hypothetical arguments are constructed, anything could happen. rolleyes.gif

I doubt if some of that lot even understand the meaning of the second word VT! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-21 06:22:06
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 20 2007, 02:24 PM) [snapback]319542[/snapback]
So you've never seen the term witch hunt used other than to describe discrimination against women who didn't perceived norms. Witch hunt : A campaign of harassment of those with dissenting opinions.

I'm not McInally's biggest fan but we have stepped up a league and the vast majority of fans thought we'd struggle big time.

We beat Clyde 3-2 in a really entertaining match. We beat Dunfermline 1-0 in a match our team played brilliantly for 45 mins especially. I also believe McInally's tactics were spot on and as a result we beat the title favourites on their own patch against a very highly rated manager. We then beat a Livingston team with what was almost a reserve team.

The only blips are the defeat at Dundee which was more down to a poor performance by players rather than anything McInally did. The only match I'd say he was guilty of anything was on Saturday. He was too defensive and didn't go for a win that was there for the taking we still kept a clean sheet and got a point against a team that St. Johnstone and Partick Thistle drew with. St. Johnstone doing so at home.

Jonaton, I'm well aware of the meaning of 'Witch Hunt'-sometimes you take my posts TOO literally!

The Dundee match was a poor effort as you say. For some reason the boys were not 'up for it'. The way I see it is that if JM gets credit for 'tactics' when a side which has effectively picked itself does well, he must take the rap when a similar side fails to produce.

Either that, or you have to accept that it's all down to the players from the minute they run on to the pitch. In Morton's case I've suggested for over a year that that IS the case. I think JM is a poor tactician, and non existent in the motivation department.
mortonjag 2007-08-21 06:48:21 If Williams got himself sorted, I'd have him back in a minute.

It has happened with others, and the guy's still young.
mortonjag 2007-08-21 07:01:47 Cheeky wee brat (who stands over six feet tall)!
mortonjag 2007-08-21 07:07:51
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 20 2007, 09:04 PM) [snapback]319737[/snapback]
That whenever a member suggests something to the admins, they totally ignore us?

I WANT THE NIGHTSHIFT BACK

[left]Also, I want a MoM Polls sub-forum. Oh and I want the Morton Match Day forum gone too.
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That's an extremely serious allegation.

As head alligator, can you give some examples?
mortonjag 2007-08-21 07:13:58
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 21 2007, 12:35 AM) [snapback]319858[/snapback]
Well, Ham Cam, you sound more and more to me like a disciple of Thatcher and her successor Blair, one who believes that there is something sacred in the capitalist market, one who might even worship a holy cash cow. You do seem to have an unhealthy interest in my pension arrangements, I make it three times you've asked me about them so far. You may be shocked to hear that despite, nay, more likely because of my advancing years, I don't really give much of a feck about such matters. I've got food on the table, beer in the fridge and a non-leaking roof over my head, so I reckon I'm doing fine and dandy. I go out to work each day, pay my taxes and national insurance, pay my bills of course, shell out for my pleasures and put what's left from the pay poke into the Co op Bank. The way us old fashioned existentialists see it is there aint much sense in putting too much away for a very uncertain future. There's no pockets in a shroud after all, and you can't access a bank account from six feet under. I don't think there's much 'Daily Mail' about that logic (not that I'm any authority on that blatt, I've barely read a sentence from it in my entire life, and then only from the sports page). I've always found pecuniary interests to be rather squalid somehow, a bit like defaecation, something that's necessary and functional but hardly something to preoccupy your life with. Terms like 'markets', 'economic drivers', 'supply and demand curves' and (not forgetting the latest) 'sub prime', all smack of chicanery. To me that's the vocabulary of the forementioned snake oil salesmen and three card trick artists. Ach well, each to his own I suppose. biggrin.gif

DE talking s***e AGAIN!
mortonjag 2007-08-21 07:16:04
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 21 2007, 01:14 AM) [snapback]319860[/snapback]
Tigerjock, I'd be very wary of taking advice from Ham 'Rachman' Cam. He evicted his Granny from a room and kitchen just so he could let it out to 35 Albanian fruit pickers. But whatever you do, don't buy any snake oil from him.

They were Romanian.

Yet again DE in verbal defaecation.
mortonjag 2007-08-21 07:50:18
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 21 2007, 07:47 AM) [snapback]319879[/snapback]
I'd sooner bring back Derek Laing.

Derek Laing? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-21 09:30:46
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 21 2007, 07:35 AM) [snapback]319877[/snapback]
Of course. As Forrest Dump said, 'Life is like a box of chocolates'. A philosophical gem from an 'idiot savant'. Maybe he could see so clearly because he didn't have his head stuck up a hedge fund. There you go, I'm talking s***e again, but at least it's prime, not sub-prime s***e. tongue.gif

Prime s***e DE is s***e! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-21 09:31:44
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 21 2007, 07:43 AM) [snapback]319878[/snapback]
Ah Ha! Could it be that Gangmaster Mentaljag is in cahoots with Ham Rachman Cam ?

Drat-this man misses nothing. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-21 09:36:43
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 21 2007, 09:09 AM) [snapback]319904[/snapback]
Actually, I thought the defeat at Dundee was down to tactics and whilst I remain supportive of him overall, that is down to McInally. If we had played the game they way we set our stall out against Dunfermline, especially with Weatherson at right back where he is a settling influence on the team, it might have been a different match. I also agree that the boys just did'nt seem as up for it as they were at Clyde and at Dunfermline but in the end the game turned on a lucky deflected goal.

May I also add that at Dunfermline, our fans were up for it right from the kick off and made a lot of noise in support of the team. At Forthbank there was just not the same atmosphere and right from the start some sections of the crowd were really getting on the players' backs. Maybe the players were not the only ones to be unable to lift their game at Forthbank.

I agree wholeheartedly-every time our fans EXPECT us to win, they are quiet until we do something, and if we don't, they get impatient-we need to get behind the boys at all times.
mortonjag 2007-08-21 12:05:49
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Aug 21 2007, 08:05 AM) [snapback]319883[/snapback]
I'n not sure why you think that apparently intelligent posters can't make ridiculous comments. There's no shortage of evidence on here that the two often go hand in hand smile.gif

The point I'm failing to make is that to get what you want you will have to pay compensation to JM/MC and then pay compensation to another club to release their 'experienced' manager to us. That could add up to significantly more than we have in the transfer budget. On top of that you may have the difficulty of persuading a good experienced manager to come to Morton due to the rumours that constantly fly around this site, others and Scottish football in general that DDFR calls the important shots at Cappielow and that Ton managers are there to make sure the team look nice when they run out. You may be familiar with this assertion smile.gif

At a time when Morton sit unbeaten at the top end of the 1st, having just achieved promotion, what do you think the reaction among football managers would be to see JM get his cards. How many decent managers would be willing to risk their reputations coming to a club where relative success is rewarded with such apparent disloyalty?

I think your strategy is fraught with risk and depends on a lot of things going our way. Experience suggests we probably have more to lose than to gain at this time.

You may be right.

All I'm really saying is that IMHO JM's now holding back progress almost as much as the Shooglymeister. If only I won the lottery, but I'm not daft enough to buy a ticket. I only believe in realistic gambles.
mortonjag 2007-08-21 12:06:36
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Aug 21 2007, 11:29 AM) [snapback]319953[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Kettle Pot Black MJ

tongue.gif ScotinBelgie

Hooked again?
mortonjag 2007-08-21 12:09:57
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 21 2007, 10:02 AM) [snapback]319916[/snapback]
The 'boys' get impatient, until Mentaljag gets 'behind' them ? Shocking. laugh.gif

My Scoutmaster always said 'Never leave the boys behind', DE.
mortonjag 2007-08-21 12:17:15
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Aug 21 2007, 11:44 AM) [snapback]319963[/snapback]
I think Imrie will sign this week - I also think that we will sign one of a few players that are currently training with Morton (probably a striker), although not sure who?

Whether the Imrie man will make a big difference to our team (if he signs) time will tell - but he would add a bit of dig thats for sure, and strengthen the squad.

Agree.
mortonjag 2007-08-21 12:20:21 Willie Collum?

Colin Hardie

Word association
mortonjag 2007-08-21 12:23:42
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 21 2007, 10:32 AM) [snapback]319926[/snapback]
Maybe he was full of Red Bull wink.gif

Maybe he was one of those parachutist fellahs who spent his time descending upon football parks.
mortonjag 2007-08-21 12:26:53
QUOTE(Edinton @ Aug 21 2007, 11:01 AM) [snapback]319942[/snapback]
Hello.

I wouldn't be against a Nightshift forum necessarily, although I seem to remember when it was proposed before there was outrage. Its a democracy (up to a point...) so I'm open to debate on the subject.

Also Deego you've not asked me for a nightshift forum, i'll set up the MOM sub-forum when I get a chance, its probably not practical to put into practice every single idea put forward by members (not saying you shouldn't send me ideas as they are all considered, of course) and yes sometimes I wish Eddie was still the mod as well!!!

There's a little festival on through here so I'm really busy, and appreciate I've not been as active as I should be, but I'll be back on top of things soon...
Edit: the Matchday Forum stays....for now at least



Stuff your little festival mate-I want a BACKSHIFT forum for the over sixties, and I want it right now.
mortonjag 2007-08-21 12:36:31 .
mortonjag 2007-08-21 12:40:46
QUOTE(Half Scottish Morton @ Aug 21 2007, 12:32 PM) [snapback]319980[/snapback]
Hi all you Morton fans.

Being English I may not be over welcome but the majority of my family are from Greenock my Nan was living in Fairie Street up until last year, I I spent many holidays up in Renton Road or the gibby I think it may be known as?

Just wishing Morton every success for this season and pleased to see they have made a decent start.

I am a Crystal Palace fan and we too are pushing for a top flight spot.

Hope to have some good chat in the coming months.

All the best H.S.M

Very popular residence with many of our posters!
mortonjag 2007-08-21 13:06:26
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 21 2007, 12:55 PM) [snapback]319987[/snapback]
This is probably the funniest post I have read on here and proves that MJ has no clue what so ever.

To suggest that as we were going to spend £80k on McGowan, we could use the money to sack the manager and bring someone else in.

This would be the craziest move by any football club and would even have Hearts fans raising an eyebrow. Do you really think this is at all likely?

Personally speaking I have enjoyed all our league games this season, I thought the Clyde and Dunfermline matches were two of the best league games I've seen for many a year. The Stirling game, obviously wasn't as good but still a good contest given the appauling conditions. Even the Livvy Cup tie was a nail biter and great result considering the number of youngsters playing.

I'm not really sure how much more entertainment value any manager could get, and we have been getting decent press into the bargain.

The manager is not a problem, the players are not a problem, the chairman is not a problem. It's ar$ehole fans like you who are the problem, who it seems will not be pleased until you have hounded McInally out the door. A good honest professional who has made great progress at Morton and has built a fantastic young squad of players. You should really go and support the Old Firm!

Face it MJ, Jim will be at Cappielow for a good few years yet so perhaps you should just get out now and go and watch Stirling as those 3 draws Allan Moore's entertaining brand of football has earned them look far better than Jim's 7 points!

Also, please don't bother replying with a smilie face. Getting rather predictible. Predicting that you don't have a clue. Perhaps you are just looking to add to your already mamoth post count without actually writing anything.

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Don't forget, my signature always follows the wee smile my child. I have bookmarked your reply and promise to apologise in those good few years when JM has finally reached the SPL with his scintillating, 'shot a minute', non-stop attacking football.
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mortonjag 2007-08-21 13:17:12
QUOTE(Half Scottish Morton @ Aug 21 2007, 12:59 PM) [snapback]319991[/snapback]
Cheers. I am sure I will get to know the good from the bad in time.

So a top of the table clash Saturday good crowd expected?

Is David Hopkin involved with Morton these days? Palace legend that man great midfielder for us.

David still watches the Ton when he can and is a shareholder in the club.
mortonjag 2007-08-21 13:21:48
QUOTE(Half Scottish Morton @ Aug 21 2007, 01:18 PM) [snapback]320006[/snapback]
Top man. I thought he had some involvement Cheers

Mind you the huge majority of shares is held by the Rae family-Manufacturers of 'Millions'.

The supporters trust has the only other significant (block) shareholding. In terms of private shares David's is about the largest.

Incidentally my brother taught him when he was a pupil at the Port High school.
mortonjag 2007-08-21 13:26:19
QUOTE(princessTON @ Aug 21 2007, 01:09 PM) [snapback]319999[/snapback]
Another hobby for Mortonjag.? tongue.gif

My Dear, Mortonjag has never been eligible for jury service-thankfully!
mortonjag 2007-08-21 13:27:28
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 21 2007, 01:19 PM) [snapback]320007[/snapback]
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Top left is BRILLIANT!
mortonjag 2007-08-21 13:30:11
QUOTE(Edinton @ Aug 21 2007, 01:20 PM) [snapback]320009[/snapback]
Change is good people, embrace it.

Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose, mais a Scapa.....vive la revolution! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-21 13:31:27
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 21 2007, 01:30 PM) [snapback]320019[/snapback]
That's McInally in hiding. He's actually got the away strip on there wink.gif

ouch
mortonjag 2007-08-21 13:34:46
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 21 2007, 01:26 PM) [snapback]320016[/snapback]
well so...my niece knows him!!! i win! * does lap of honour *

its my ball and youre not playing with it. mellow.gif

Cheeky boy-my brother also taught George Anderson, and don't tell me he's shagged your niece, 'cos George isn't like that! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-21 13:37:34 The surname's no secret Gibby, and BTW I didn't say he is my FAVOURITE brother! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-21 13:40:32
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Aug 21 2007, 01:34 PM) [snapback]320024[/snapback]
F*ck that, you can't trust they auld c*nts in the Jury.

"AT LOOKS LIK WAN AH THEY BUOYS WHAE'RE ALWAYS HINGIN' ABOOT DOON THE STREET SO IT DIS!"
"Sir, if you'll take the time to..."
"GULLTY!"

Nothing new then Micky Boy! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-21 13:44:04
QUOTE(Tractorton @ Aug 21 2007, 01:38 PM) [snapback]320029[/snapback]
It's not the Estate Agents you have to worry about Tigerjock, it's Chartered Surveyors likes myself (and Ham Cam if I remember rightly) who come along after you have agreed a price with a purchaser and tell the lender the property isn't worth the money! tongue.gif

True-Estate Agents tell lies and smile when challenged-Surveyors refute challenges robustly!
mortonjag 2007-08-21 13:47:30
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 21 2007, 01:42 PM) [snapback]320033[/snapback]
nah she's ginger and 8 years old, but i shall be going to the tele. can see the headline now " Mortonjag promotes Paedophilia and tarnishes the good name of George Anderson ". okay i may have altered your post a little but nothing wrong with twisting the truth to get a good story tongue.gif

probably make about page 5 after all the different articles about people being in court.

You little jobby-at first I thought I had made my first mistake.
mortonjag 2007-08-21 14:00:07
QUOTE(franco @ Aug 21 2007, 01:42 PM) [snapback]320034[/snapback]
Wee history teacher, travelled each day from Dunoon? That's my guess.

Geordie played a blinder against us in a pupils/teachers football match at the end of my 6th year, but couldn't remember anything after the 3rd minute cos he suffered concussion in an early challenge. think he scored twice against us.

good teacher and good bloke too - that's what makes me doubt if i've got the correct person though.

Spot on franco, and a better header of the ball than big Sanny to boot! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-21 14:07:46 I'm scared to predict it-we're capable of a victory-f*ck it then-

Ton 2 Accies 1 (Linn and OG) smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-21 14:10:54
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 21 2007, 02:07 PM) [snapback]320046[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif i made mortonjag question himself. screw davie hopkin, this is my new claim to fame biggrin.gif

Yes YOU DID-normally I wouldn't have cared, but anybody who knows George Anderson would have been upset.

Naughty, naughty boy. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-21 14:30:07
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 21 2007, 02:13 PM) [snapback]320049[/snapback]
the more you call me naughty boy and cheeky chappy or whatever the more i begin to think its not George Anderson we need to be worrying about laugh.gif

If you're suggesting I'm a pouffe I will not deny it!
mortonjag 2007-08-21 14:46:29
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 21 2007, 02:40 PM) [snapback]320056[/snapback]
damn, i was hoping as well as making you question yourself id make you question your sexuality, but you really seem to be at peace with yourself and know the kind of man you want to bum....sorry that was a slip of the tongue, i meant to say become.

necessity is the mother of invention

any port in a storm

don't knock it 'til you've tried it

look before you leap

what's done in haste is often regretted at leisure

bugger me-this should be a new thread.
mortonjag 2007-08-22 04:57:48
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 21 2007, 10:59 PM) [snapback]320363[/snapback]
This match will sort out whether we have any serious aspirations of a top 4 finish. We have tightened the defence but it has been at the expense of creativity at the other end. We need to get the balance right.

I hoping for a win maybe 2-1 with a new striker on display, maybe Imrie.

If you accept the premise that to get into the top four you need to WIN matches, I'd suggest this has already been sorted out. I agree we desperately need to address the balance, yet the favoured option appears to be a 'striker'-so the all new exciting JM philosophy will be to keep possession and break the opposition down for ninety minutes, while lumping balls onto Sanny's head in the hope that the Saviour will capitalise on his flicks.

This is indeed inspired, as Sanny is made of titanium and guaranteed to go ten seasons without injury.
mortonjag 2007-08-22 05:10:39
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 21 2007, 10:57 PM) [snapback]320362[/snapback]
I think its more evidential than your sweeping assertions. I think some people have unrealistic expectations on this board. We won the league last year by 8 points and thats because, in the end Stirling were not good enough to catch us. We are unbeaten in the league so far and I can't think of a sub which could have been made for the better given our injury situation.

With regard to making the same substitutions each week, I think he is a bit constrained by injuries and has'nt had many options on the bench. That should start to ease with the return of some of the players as injuries ease.

I will concede that we have cut it very fine in terms of getting a striker which is the obvious need and hopefuly we don't end up stuck with what we have until January. That is down to the chairman and the manager and I hope they don't let us down!

In which case I'd ask what happened to Cowdenbeath last season. Anybody who believes a club's league position after three matches is a reliable guide to the future is being rather naive.

I don't think EM made a single 'sweeping' assertion Tonsilitis-what he described was pretty factual IMHO.

We could SO easily have dropped two points against Clyde, and although the boys deserve full credit for the 'Pars' game, Ludo Roy had a lazy day, and again it could easily have been different. On Saturday at Stirling the game was there for the taking, and JM f*cked up again.

Quite simple really-we need a new manager if we're ever going to get exciting football and see plenty of goals, and YOU KNOW that's what hauls in the crowds.
mortonjag 2007-08-22 05:14:28
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 21 2007, 03:32 PM) [snapback]320094[/snapback]
No, he isn't fit and we still need to have 4 strikers at the club if we're going to use 433 at times.

Ah-I've been wondering about that new back four.

There again JM knows best!
mortonjag 2007-08-22 05:23:04
QUOTE(Half Scottish Morton @ Aug 21 2007, 03:24 PM) [snapback]320081[/snapback]
Don`t worry, I live near Brighton the gay capital of the South East i`ve heard it all before!!! I do visit their supporters forum as they are Crystal Palace`s bitter rivals.

Would you like a part times sales job for Ziggy's Zimmers-we're thinking of opening a shop in Bexhill?

PS why don't you call yourself ThornTON Heath?
mortonjag 2007-08-22 05:53:47 I've rarely heard a level of booing at games which I thought was likely to upset the players. As for the Egyptian Mummy in the dugout-nae chance!

What really does concern me is the lack of vocal support. We only ever raise our voices en masse if we see ourselves as underdogs, or if the opposition fans are 'havin a go'.

Instead of criticising the relatively small band of 'boo boys', I'm disappointed in a much bigger section of our 'support'.

Incidentally, Mortonjag is always hoarse after our matches, though a good gargle has amazingly curative properties.
mortonjag 2007-08-22 06:17:53 Let's face it guys, too much of any good thing gets pretty boring after a while.

The truth is that a large number of men still see 'sex', as 'Getting their hole', instead of a mutually enjoyable exercise, and modern day ladies are much more enlightened than their Victorian counterparts.

I'd suggest that it's the Quality Control Department which is crucial here-not much point in a high volume of second rate merchandise.

Don't forget that by staying with the same partner you both age at the same rate-expectations naturally tail off even in the most fulfilled relationships.

Having said all that, I'd recommend a different partner every now and again, but never two at the same time!
mortonjag 2007-08-22 06:23:41
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 21 2007, 04:43 PM) [snapback]320147[/snapback]
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Have I met you?

Possibly-possibly not-I'm the Famous Dr Mortonjag!

Didn't young Deegan state no time ago he was a tallboy when I mentioned his 'little legs'? wink.gif

Were you lying-are you a Chest of Drawers?

Maybe you're just a wee brown stool. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-22 06:27:08
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 21 2007, 07:56 PM) [snapback]320255[/snapback]
According the Scottish Exec website the following are the only reasons of ineligibility for jury service for those between 18 and 69 years or age who are not employed in law enforcement or in the criminal justice system are: -

* if you suffer from, or have suffered from, a mental disorder / mental health problem and because of that condition you are currently a resident in a hospital or other similar institution

* if you regularly visit a medical practitioner for treatment for a mental disorder / mental health problem

* if you are in guardianship under section 7 of the Mental Health Act 1983

* if a judge has decided that you are not capable of managing and administering your property or affairs because of mental disorder/mental health problem

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Mortonjag was never eligible for jury duty! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-22 06:28:49
QUOTE(lush @ Aug 21 2007, 08:36 PM) [snapback]320275[/snapback]
In MJs case, all the above. tongue.gif

Quite possibly Lush, but none of the aforementioned was the main reason for my ineligibility!
mortonjag 2007-08-22 06:30:47
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Aug 21 2007, 06:21 PM) [snapback]320185[/snapback]
You can't refute my point that people over 65 are petty and senile and therefore should not be allowed on the Jury.

...though they're slightly less likely to get caught listening to MP3 players under their Hijabs. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-22 06:42:27 Before I say anything I'll quote Bashir Mann, who described this as 'ridiculous'-just for the benefit of Jesus and his merry band of 'up their ain erses' idealists.

This is discrimination in the workplace-acceptable and accepted working practices are being banned by a few clots trying to justify salaries for jobs which should never have been created. If anything it will generate tension rather than relieving it, and don't forget Ramadan is NOT a fast-it's merely filling your face at different times during any 24 hours.

Sometimes I'm glad I won't be around in twenty years.
mortonjag 2007-08-22 06:57:22
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 21 2007, 10:32 PM) [snapback]320348[/snapback]
laugh.gif Why would anyone spend that sort of money on a cooker?

Rumour has it that Alibi is a cannibal with a particular taste in immature little boys.

The said cooker is unique, incorporating as it does a 2000 r.p.m. stainless steel tenderiser, a digitally controlled multi point fat scarifier, and an inbuilt laser camera which records facial expression and adjusts temperature accordingly throughout the live cook cycle.

Cheap at the price.
mortonjag 2007-08-22 07:04:00
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Aug 22 2007, 06:58 AM) [snapback]320418[/snapback]
what part of that is a quote exactly?

and what's this all about, i can't get onto this site at work.

nt Media News Iraq Afghanistan Iran Your Say Politics Entertainment Celebrity Citizen Journalism

Working lunches banned - in case Muslims are offended
The establishment of an Islamic state in the UK becomes a reality on an almost daily basis and another concession to Muslims come today as doctors and other health workers in Scotland have been banned from eating at their desks - in case it offends Muslims. Health bosses think that the sight of food being eaten might upset Muslims as they fast during Ramadan, and lunch trolleys have also been banned for Ramadan, which begins next month.

Staff and politicians have condemned the move, saying it was a "step too far". The new guidelines have been introduced after the car bomb attack on Glasgow Airport and the death of the driver of the burning car.

Thrilled

Glasgow and Lothian health staff will be given time off to pray and celebrate Eid, the end of Ramadan. However, the same health boards have said that food vending machines should be removed from areas where Muslims work and staff should not take working lunches. The measures were drawn up by Meem, which advises on Muslim issues and its clients include the Scottish Parliament. Na'eem Raza, from Neem, said he was "thrilled" that the moves had been adopted.

Health chiefs defended the measures, saying they needed to promote a "positive and tolerant culture" at work and that they had introduced a "diversity" strategy. It said many of the staff, visitors and patients will be participating in Ramadan. Will they show the same consideration to Christians who wish to celebrate Christmas? Will they be given Christmas Day off work?

It's actually 'old hat' LCM- I'm sure it came out about a week ago, and Bashir Mann was not the only person of Asian origin who described it as a bridge too far.
mortonjag 2007-08-22 07:10:21 What happened where Goldilocks strayed.
mortonjag 2007-08-22 07:53:52
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Aug 22 2007, 07:48 AM) [snapback]320425[/snapback]
anyone got a credible source for this? i can't find anything on the nhs glasgow website.

NHS staff told to eat away from desks for Ramadan

HOSPITAL staff in the Lothians have been told not to eat at their desks to avoid offending Muslim colleagues during Ramadan.

NHS Lothian has advised doctors and other health workers not to have working lunches during the 30-day fast, which begins next month.
Advert for YPL

The health service's Equality and Diversity Officer sent an e-mail to all senior managers, giving guidance on religious tolerance.

This includes ensuring Muslim staff are given breaks to pray, and time off to celebrate Eid at the end of Ramadan.

It is understood they also advised hospital managers to move food trolleys away from areas where Muslims work.

An NHS spokesman said he could not confirm what was in the e-mail.

Jim McCaffery, director of acute services and workforce at NHS Lothian, said: "This e-mail was circulated to a number of senior managers as we continue to promote cultural awareness in our organisation."

But the move has angered many doctors and politicians, who say it is taking religious tolerance too far.

Bill Aitken, Scottish Conservative justice spokesman, was reported as saying: "Frankly, this advice, well meaning as it may be, is total nonsense.

"This is the sort of thing that can stir up resentments rather than result in good relation




Quote from the Scotsman.
mortonjag 2007-08-22 07:56:22
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Aug 22 2007, 07:29 AM) [snapback]320423[/snapback]
I choked on my orange juice this morning when reading in the Bangkok post about ''Captain Dan the demon dwarf'' who had an accident at the Edinburgh Fringe festival.
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/stor...5001028,00.html

Especially funny in BANGKOK I'd imagine!
mortonjag 2007-08-22 07:59:40
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Aug 22 2007, 07:15 AM) [snapback]320422[/snapback]
I'm a bit embarassed to ask this but I've always lived on the theory that ''people who don't ask stupid questions stay stupid''.

Whilst in the pub last night and every other night recently , I've been wondering what purpose a beermat serves.

Is a beermat to protect the pub tables and bar from being stained by your pint glass ?

or , is it for the drinkers benefit in some way ?

Please advise.

A beer mat's a bit like a prayer mat-not a prerequisite for the function but a good advert for the product.
mortonjag 2007-08-22 08:10:01
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Aug 22 2007, 08:00 AM) [snapback]320432[/snapback]
sounds like the sort of email that would get instantly deleted, apart from the one that gets forwarded to the papers. i'm more concerned that the non-entity who wrote it is probably on about 40k a year.

Doctors and nurses in Scotland should refrain from eating in front of their Muslim patients and colleagues during the month of Ramadan according to the Scottish NHS.

Staff in hospitals north of the border were advised by the Scottish Executive and the Scottish NHS to avoid “working lunches†and to move food trolleys away from Muslim colleagues in the month when Islam forbids eating and drinking during daylight hours.

The guidance, also sent to teachers and police stations by a Scottish Muslim consultancy, includes pointers on how to accommodate staff observing Ramadan. Flexible working hours and time off to break the fast are recommended during the four weeks beginning on September 13.

Mary Scanlon, Shadow Cabinet Secretary for Health and Wellbeing in the Scottish Parliament said the move was a “step too far†for political correctness and unnecessary. “Scotland is a very tolerant, sensitive and welcoming country†but she added, “I don’t see it’s necessary for Ramadan to affect the lives of people of other beliefs,†she told Times Online, “It would be like saying Protestants shouldn’t eat meat next to Catholics who want to eat fish on a Friday.â€

Osama Saeed, Scottish spokesman for the Muslim Council of Britain supported the advice given about Ramadan. “My own experience when fasting is that non-Muslims do want to be sensitive about eating in front of those of us who are hungry,†he said.

Jim McCaffery, director of acute services and workforce, NHS Lothian said the email was sent to a number of senior managers in order to “continue to promote cultural awarenessâ€.

A spokeswoman for Greater Glasgow and Clyde NHS denied that staff had been “banned from eating food at their workplaces†but said they had asked employees “to show consideration†for colleagues and patients observing Ramadan.


Times on line.
mortonjag 2007-08-22 08:19:07
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 22 2007, 08:11 AM) [snapback]320435[/snapback]
Yup, but that rational type of response doesn't fill newspapers I'm afraid Manky, nor feed the minds of others.

Shame really.

TonInDublin

# Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. (Verse 3)
# Blessed are the meek: for they shall posses the land. (Verse 4)
# Blessed are they who mourn: for they shall be comforted. (Verse 5)
# Blessed are they that hunger and thirst after justice: for they shall have their fill. (Verse 6)
# Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. (Verse 7)
# Blessed are the clean of heart: for they shall see God. (Verse 8)
# Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. (Verse 9)
# Blessed are they that suffer persecution for justice' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. (Verse 10)

St. Jesus Neville Chamberlain of (Offaly) daft opinion-turn the other cheek and forgive seventy times seven (unless it's Mortonjag)

Sooner or later you'll get that 'dunt' which will open your eyes! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-22 08:53:57
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 22 2007, 08:21 AM) [snapback]320444[/snapback]
It's a Rangemaster, a sort of cheaper version of an Aga, 900mm wide. My wife is a Home Economics teacher and enjoys cooking so a decent cooker is worthwhile. If you have any interest at all in food, you will appreciate that a microwave doesn't cook things, it just heats them up. The heating may cause the food to cook after a fashion, but the texture and taste tend to get ruined.

If on the other hand you consider a Big Mac to be the height of cordon bleu, then yes, I can see how you would think this cooker is a bit expensive, but it's a bit like buying an Audi instead of a Vauxhall Astra. As the adverts say, you never regret buying quality.

The discount codes stuff applies to obscenely large flatscreen plasma TVs too BTW.....

If it's as versatile as a modern Aga-it's more than just a cooker.
mortonjag 2007-08-22 08:57:59
QUOTE(ianton @ Aug 22 2007, 08:04 AM) [snapback]320433[/snapback]
while rae is there i don't think many managers would want the job.there is nothing worse than an interfering chairman.

EXACTLY.
mortonjag 2007-08-22 09:23:47
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Aug 22 2007, 09:14 AM) [snapback]320454[/snapback]
So you fully agree that while our esteemed chairman is in charge MJ you literally are stuck with what we've got. So why continue to put in so much time and effort in providing character assisinations of both the chairman and manager. Why not accept the situation - nothing you do is going to change it anyway - and lighten up. Constantly moaning about a situation you can't do anything about does no good to your mental well-being or ours.

wink.gif ScotinBelgie

EH?

I fully agreed with the statement that there is nothing worse than an interfering Chairman-THAT WAS ALL.

What have I said about either the Chairman or manager which is untrue? If you buy into the 'When rape is inevitable' notion, I CERTAINLY don't, and if you choose to describe my highlighting of crass incompetence as MOANING-fine! rolleyes.gif

I assure you my psychiatrist is happy with my current mental state.
mortonjag 2007-08-22 09:31:49
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 22 2007, 09:23 AM) [snapback]320455[/snapback]
It's amazing how a chemical reaction in the brain can make some people spend £20k on one day.

Anyway, you should be cool Stu. The Jag's still getting his hole and he's 94.

Cheeky b*****d-I'll 94 you-I'm not a day over 88, and my partners are mainly younger than you.
mortonjag 2007-08-22 09:35:25
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Aug 22 2007, 09:31 AM) [snapback]320457[/snapback]
Maybe they should make everyone stay behind and thoroughly clean their offices on a Friday night so as to keep the yids happy.

That's very, very knotty ratarse-if said 'Yids' were as vociferous as said Moo Slims you'd have 100 Offaly Holy Jesuses accusing you of stirring anti Semitic undertones and fingz!
mortonjag 2007-08-22 09:39:24 One for all and all....
mortonjag 2007-08-22 09:52:02
QUOTE(foxy @ Aug 22 2007, 09:45 AM) [snapback]320465[/snapback]
I've said this before which I got shot down for.

We are a christian country & should be able to practice our beliefs 24/7. If a foreigner comes to our country they should be willing/made to accept our beleifs or go home. We dont go to their country & force our culture/beliefs on them. If we did we would be killed.
Im not saying they arent allowed to live here, but they have got to recognise they are just a visitor as such

I'm not sure I agree with every detail foxy, but in principle few sensible folk will argue.

Prepare, however, to be shot down again! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-22 12:41:42
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Aug 22 2007, 11:28 AM) [snapback]320487[/snapback]
You ARE moaning though. wink.gif

I am moaning CONSTRUCTIVELY. sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-23 05:40:32
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Aug 22 2007, 12:47 PM) [snapback]320505[/snapback]
Enough of this constructive pish.

Is 'PISH' the 'in word' on the Board?

It seems to appear in almost every fifth post, with by far the favourite verb 'to spout'.

Am I just


SPOUTING PISH?
mortonjag 2007-08-23 05:47:27
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Aug 22 2007, 01:55 PM) [snapback]320549[/snapback]
Don't think there's any way I can get the time off work.

Not too disappointed tbh, horrendous trip for a midweek diddy cup game.

I didn't regard the CIS cup as a 'diddy' competition, but according to some posters, a defeat at Peterhead will see us going topless.
mortonjag 2007-08-23 05:48:31
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 22 2007, 01:16 PM) [snapback]320527[/snapback]
I'd say we could stick to what we've got till Jan and then go for McGowan.

I'm sure cellic will see they are going to lose even more money on him and accept a sensible offer.

Although, no doubt as the fans will keep on moaning, we'll end up signing someone.

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mortonjag 2007-08-23 05:49:53
QUOTE(Half Scottish Morton @ Aug 22 2007, 03:59 PM) [snapback]320564[/snapback]
Was not aware of that. Thanks for putting me in the picture. Palace have some great youngsters we could loan you. Get the Manager to call Peter Taylor up. Mention Lewis Grabban or Victor Moses. Victor scored two goals for England U17`s last night. He is a great prospect.

It's sometimes a wee bit hard to do that kind of thing.
mortonjag 2007-08-23 05:52:49 We still have eight days-if we do OK against Hamilton I don't expect much to change. If we fare badly I expect the usual backlash from our rose tint posters.

That always tickles me pink!
mortonjag 2007-08-23 05:55:06
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 22 2007, 06:53 PM) [snapback]320599[/snapback]
Yeah, only McGregor AND Weatherson have played there before.

Wouldn't bother too much.

It's not often I descend to the wee boy level, but if you rate either as a genuine central defender, you are indeed a


f*d
mortonjag 2007-08-23 07:09:58
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 22 2007, 02:24 PM) [snapback]320552[/snapback]
St Johnstone have money having made a £400k profit last year thanks to their cup runs. Imrie might also see them as a more desirable club. Who knows but I'm wondering if we are going to be gazumped again!

I still can't understand why we bowed out of the CIS cup with hardly a whisper of disappointment Tonsilitis.
mortonjag 2007-08-23 07:12:29
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 22 2007, 04:53 PM) [snapback]320574[/snapback]
There's a man who knows all the facts and doesn't jump to conclusions rolleyes.gif

...from a man who describes 'Millions' as a 'Household Name' and tried to rubbish fact as presented in the Stan Webster issue! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-23 07:22:34
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 22 2007, 10:35 PM) [snapback]320669[/snapback]
Its a realistic point we always have to be aware of . As much as DDFR would like to sign guys to push us up the table the bottom line for every player is what level will I be playing at next year .
Owen Coyle is a decent manager , they have a ground that meets SPL requirements , they showed last season in the cup competitions and in the league they aren't far away from being an SPL side .
We have to admit that the ground development is something that does give us a disadvantage towards signing players who have SPL ambitions .

I am beginning to question this. I think his comments about the SPL being now 'a dream' have to be taken seriously.

Having originally stated unequivocally that the SPL was our goal, Shoogly seems to be taking stock.

There's nothing wrong with rationalisation, consolidation, or whatever other word you prefer for underfunding, but one thing's still for sure. GMFC will be his as long as there's breath in his body.

I think we're just being fed the truth by default. He hasn't a clue where we're going-he saw wee Gowsa as some kind of magic which would haul in the crowds, repay his crazy investment, and most of all polish his ego.

I STILL believe there is time. C'mon Shoogly-SURELY we can get another two or three players and have a bash THIS SEASON.
mortonjag 2007-08-23 07:37:38
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Aug 22 2007, 09:48 PM) [snapback]320661[/snapback]
Just read through most of this thread, having avoided it for a few days.
Seems that JM has folk who will never accepot him, just as Stark did (ironically, two of the best managers we've had since we finally got shot of McGraw). Stark was targeted for very different reasons, though, and it was not limited to fans people who turn up at the games.

I was disgusted to read that there had been booing on Saturday. We have 7 points from 9, with two clean sheets away from home (one being a win over the pre-season favourites, the other being a draw with a side who have beaten us on both of our last two visits). But you all know this - so what's the point in preaching?

JM's own words are that "people who pay their money can say what they wish" - he told me this at the Largs friendly last season. I doubt that isolated comments (childish or genuine) will ever make him leave the club - so why bother?

.....and I won't listen because I DON'T listen?

Problems don't go away just because you ignore them AT.

Of course there are always people who dislike a manager for no specific reason-that's human nature, but there have been plenty of legitimate criticisms and unanswered questions.

I don't KNOW JM, so how can I dislike him as a person. I DON'T.

I do, however, see policies which I believe are counter productive-no need to repeat 'old hat', and I strongly believe we now need fresh blood if we are to realise our true potential.
mortonjag 2007-08-23 07:40:40
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 22 2007, 03:28 PM) [snapback]320561[/snapback]
Erm..... I'll think you'll find that WDE has got his very own blog. Just click on the link above his sig. Lay the doobie down, take your shades off and you might just see it. It's in bold red letters. laugh.gif

survey?
mortonjag 2007-08-23 07:48:44
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 22 2007, 01:50 PM) [snapback]320546[/snapback]
Surely Ramadan is a test of faith , just as lent or the Sabbath . It is a personal thing between an individual and their beliefs .
Seems another stupid idea put foward by the well meaning but misplaced values were are told to live with these days .

The original advice was given by a Muslim consultancy Chris. The 'well meaning' folk in this scenario may well be meaning to get promotion to another sinecure in the near future.
mortonjag 2007-08-23 07:53:07
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 22 2007, 02:24 PM) [snapback]320553[/snapback]
What a pile of Tory pish. tongue.gif

A lovely alliteration DE but hardly a reality unless sub zero.
mortonjag 2007-08-23 08:17:09
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 22 2007, 08:54 PM) [snapback]320646[/snapback]
Maybe he's embalming him?

Did he not mention 'service'?
mortonjag 2007-08-23 08:45:12
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 23 2007, 08:26 AM) [snapback]320720[/snapback]
Spot on. The poverty industry which provides well paid sinecures for middle class bleeding heart liberals is matched only in its funding and stupidity by the equality industry.

...and some Pigs will always be more equal than others!

I like your new pikshur BTW.
mortonjag 2007-08-23 08:49:29
QUOTE(dazza @ Aug 23 2007, 08:46 AM) [snapback]320723[/snapback]
How did gretna attract tosh , innes, grady etc in the 1st and 2nd division then?

££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££
mortonjag 2007-08-23 09:05:54 I've been a wee bit naughty, and counted Keenan, McGregor, Weatherson, and Shields as midfielders.

They've certainly all been played there-so we've got SIXTEEN in a squad of just over twenty players.


Tell that to anybody who knows nothing about us, and what will the response be?
mortonjag 2007-08-23 09:09:50
QUOTE(lush @ Aug 23 2007, 09:02 AM) [snapback]320726[/snapback]
Female poster advice.....DO NOT DISCUSS YOUR SEX LIFE WITH A BUNCH OF DEVIANTS ON HERE....... wink.gif

Are you calling me a deviant-please define normality.

If I have a predilection for the occasional bit of mutton, am I doing any harm?

Anyway Lush-quantity or quality? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-23 09:17:33
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 23 2007, 09:05 AM) [snapback]320728[/snapback]
Most unlike you to indulge in polemics Mr McB, and I think not. In my expereience, a lot of folk employed in the so called poverty industry are on short to medium term contracts, with a maximum term of 2 years. Sinecures ? Well again I can only speak from personal experience, but the two individuals that I know, (one a youth worker, the other an addictions worker) seem to work very long hours including nights and weekends for a fairly modest reward of £20k. Bleeding heart liberals ? That's probably an accurate fit for the youth worker but certainly not for the addictions worker. He counsels abstinence, tries his best to arrange rehab and employment for recovering addicts and is strongly against the methadone programme. Sure, there are lots of touchy-feely bleeding heart loon balls employed in similar posts, but don't let this taint them all. There are still some good people out there, doing their best against almost impossible odds.

Mr Bam's perception of the 'Equality industry' being staffed by 'bleeding heart Liberals' is pretty accurate in my opinion DE, though I'd prefer to describe them as amorally pragmatic, self aggrandising bandwagon jumpers.

Does that make them Tories?
mortonjag 2007-08-23 09:20:12
QUOTE(lush @ Aug 23 2007, 09:11 AM) [snapback]320732[/snapback]
Quality.... wink.gif

Ten Fudgy Wudgys or a box of Thorntons?

Nae contest eh! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-23 09:22:50
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 23 2007, 09:07 AM) [snapback]320730[/snapback]
I asked someone in the street, he said and I quote "mortonjag's a f*d".

That would be JM I suspect. Nice to see you're a temporary non huff buttoner.
mortonjag 2007-08-23 09:25:25
QUOTE(Ar1tch1e @ Aug 23 2007, 09:16 AM) [snapback]320733[/snapback]
wife went into cappielow yesterday.
got 2 season tickets no problem.
great service.

Who was leading prayers?
mortonjag 2007-08-23 09:32:30
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Aug 23 2007, 09:26 AM) [snapback]320741[/snapback]
Nah you are just dribbling!

F*ck off-my catheter's functioning perfectly.
mortonjag 2007-08-23 09:50:13
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Aug 23 2007, 09:43 AM) [snapback]320750[/snapback]
Tell me a player at any club , other than the goalie, who hasn't ever played in a position which isn't his favourite.
Morton have a lot of midfielders [color="#FF0000"][/color]?

laugh.gif An awful lot!
mortonjag 2007-08-23 09:54:07
QUOTE(simplyton @ Aug 22 2007, 01:44 PM) [snapback]320544[/snapback]
Folks,

Heading out to Florida with the family in April for a couple of weeks and was looking to book a villa for the duration of our stay

We've been out a few times before so know the area but unfortunately our party has outgrown our usual villa renters.

We're looking for a 5+ bedroom villa ideally in Kissimmee for the middle of April. (8-26)

Anybody got any recommendations - I've obviously been through all the usual websites but most of them look the same and was hoping some personal input would help our decision

Cheers

See they f*ckin' admission prices-f*ckin' rip aff.

Ah-the 'have's and 'have not's of our little rag.

Enjoy your well earned break! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-23 09:57:41
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 23 2007, 09:53 AM) [snapback]320753[/snapback]
Paul Burns is a good player but IMHO rather lightweight - he has legs like matchsticks. We have enough Auschwitz survivors in our team already - what we need is someone who needs time off to go to Weightwatchers meetings.

We should perhaps look at Steven Dobbie, excellent striker who appears to enjoy the odd Chicken Bhuna followed by a couple of Gulab Jamans. Doubt if he'd be for sale though.

Gulab-to work

Jaman- to blow
mortonjag 2007-08-23 10:00:06
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 23 2007, 09:56 AM) [snapback]320755[/snapback]
Congratulations on your recent marriage, cos that's what it sounds like. Without the expensive get out clauses of course....

Sex without Thais
mortonjag 2007-08-23 11:13:27 [quote name='Real_Hoops' date='Aug 23 2007, 10:50 AM' post='320770']
Below, is the only post I have ever made regarding the Stan Webster issue. I have not rubbished any facts what so ever, you petulant little liar.
You said of your father---[/quote]therefore has no recourse to address or in this case defend himself and I really don’t appreciate you of all people bringing him and his personal correspondences into this public board
No personal detail of any kind was ever released, yet you CHOSE to state that your father had to 'defend' himself.

and said of yourself

Now, that is only my opinion but although it is based on knowing my own father

Whereas I had seen copies of the relevant correspondence.


This 'petulant liar' regards you as a piece of verminous creeping paranoia. I DO NOT LIE-I DID NOT LIE.

You really are a vile little creature, and worst of all, you can't even see you're wound up so much that you ACTUALLY hate somebody you don't even know.

I'm sure that in real life you're a good wee chappie who wouldn't hurt a fly, let alone an evil Mortonjag. Why don't you 'wake up and smell the coffee', and BTW 'Millions' is never a 'Household Name' in a million years.
mortonjag 2007-08-24 06:22:09
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 23 2007, 01:07 PM) [snapback]320811[/snapback]
So you're only response to my reasoned argument is to bookmark my post.

Ok, I give in you've just proved your point. :sarcasm:

Now fck off.

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mortonjag 2007-08-24 06:24:18
QUOTE(axeman @ Aug 23 2007, 04:02 PM) [snapback]320864[/snapback]
Ludovic Roy doesn't play for Dunfermline though, so it's a bit difficult talking about his day against Queen of the South. wink.gif

Roddy McKenzie was the Pars keeper there's quite an obvious difference between him & Roy. smile.gif

Who mentioned Ludovic Roy?

OOPS

I must be getting old my little chopper, but the point's still valid.
mortonjag 2007-08-24 06:38:28
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 23 2007, 03:12 PM) [snapback]320847[/snapback]
I'm sorry, you misunderstand me Chrissiboi. I am not saying mortonjag is lying about the Stan Webster issue at all.

I'm referring to this lie.
.

You have the tenacity of a cretin on 'E', and the wit of a brain dead flea.

You claimed clearly that 'your father had to defend himself'

As chrissiboi has suggested, NEVER at any time was anything written of those forums which either identified you, or your father.

At one point I merely hinted that it was a bit odd, given your dad's involvement (that was ALL I called it) with Iain, that you were pursuing your one man vendetta against me and at the time incorporating Iain in your comments.

If you wish to continue this ridiculous nonsense, by all means do.

BTW if the Old Kilmacolm Primary School's still standing, could you nick the big wooden Dux Board off the wall, and drop it off to me next time you're in Shawlands? smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-24 06:44:08
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Aug 23 2007, 04:19 PM) [snapback]320867[/snapback]
I know it's early days, but the league looks wide open - 2 or 3 good signings would give us a wee shout of being there or thereabouts at the end of the season.

It's not by any means impossible-if we signed a player manager as one of those, it would soften the financial blow of parting with JM and MC.

Just a thought.
mortonjag 2007-08-24 06:48:29
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 23 2007, 06:17 PM) [snapback]320939[/snapback]
My apologies. I'm sure that Phil did hit a coo's arse with a banjo. Once.

At his worst he was poor.

He wasn't always.
mortonjag 2007-08-24 06:50:24
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 23 2007, 01:00 PM) [snapback]320807[/snapback]
The response will be... 'Well, they must be playing alright as they've got 7 points from 9, 3 consecutive clean sheets and just won the league last season with a few games to spare.'

[b]Now fck off.[/b

Next!

That request's about as realistic as your perception of football.
mortonjag 2007-08-24 06:53:09
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 23 2007, 07:08 PM) [snapback]320976[/snapback]
Spoonsy is a midfielder


Trying to have it both ways again? laugh.gif

nope
mortonjag 2007-08-24 06:57:25
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Aug 23 2007, 07:59 PM) [snapback]321003[/snapback]
If your happy to pay £8 pound on a bus to Stirling, £14 into watch morton play stirling, £5 odd for the pie and bovril order, watch mcinally play one up front, watch the guy who scores goals for you play at right back , watch the guy you signed as a right back play centre mid, watch the guy who's your most creative midfielder play left wing, watch the guy who's been playing out on the left the last few year play centre mid, watch a midfielder play left back and watch brian graham playing upfront himself for the last 10 minute then your name most be Jim McInally. If not your an absolute idiot!

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Sir, I salute your FUDDERY.

Welcome to the F*D club! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-24 07:00:42
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 23 2007, 08:06 PM) [snapback]321005[/snapback]
I'm happy (to go to the games and pay the price) and I know it and I clap my hands. laugh.gif Maybe I'm an idiot, but what the feck. If others aren't so happy, then that's their entitlement. It's called freedom of thought and speech.

I just have the sneaky feeling DE that a proportion of the perpetual hand clappers are incapable of 'thought'.

I too, am one of the perpetual hand clappers.
mortonjag 2007-08-24 07:03:25
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Aug 23 2007, 10:22 PM) [snapback]321064[/snapback]
you are quite right about the prices being extortionate at stirling, and also the tactics were strange to say the least, but when you boo the team at full time, its the players you are getting at - not the people who set the gate prices, or jim mcinally either. as i said earlier, i seen the look on chris millars face as he turned to clap the fans, and he was completely gutted when the boos started ringing out.

also, a draw was a decent result away to stirling - so maybe the players deserved some applause for a decent effort, when many were being asked to play in unfamiliar positions.

It was not the players' fault.
mortonjag 2007-08-24 07:06:34
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Aug 23 2007, 10:27 PM) [snapback]321070[/snapback]
Its that "Glass Half Empty" Mentality that is ruining this board . complaining about what might happen .

So many top flight managers on this board is scary . you all obviously know more than JM and know exactly what goes on at Cappielow and the Trainging ground

Get behind the Team / Management while we are doing resonably well and once (If) the bubble burst's then come on here with your pish

So it will still be 'pish' even if it's proved true. That's not 'glass half full' Scott-it's plain daft.

If the glass is both half empty and half full (as in my case), am I allowed to suggest that our performance at Dundee in a potential money spinner was something less than inspiring?
mortonjag 2007-08-24 07:12:52
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Aug 23 2007, 11:35 PM) [snapback]321097[/snapback]
Its also too early to press the panic button .

I believe one of the reasons behind the transfer saga is Dougie being tight with money then making wild bids for Mcgowan . even when the manager believe he is paying too much . Dougie is far to active in transfers for my liking . the chairman should broker deals not choose players .

Jay Shields signed untill Xmas because Dougie thinks Craig Black can fill his shoes (Saves Dougie Money)
Jim has said he doesnt want to drop the young boy in it in the first division

After the chairmans comment "I think the manager should have another look at Adam Coakley whent he Sturm transfer went bad indicates that Mcinally had already decided not to give him a contract and Dougie persuaded him to give him untill Christmas
(Again to save the chairman money in bringing in another striker)

I believe there is more going on behind the scenes than we know and Jim is taking all the flak for it ..

So far as signings are concerned-YES.

So far as team selection, tactics, and motivational skills are concerned, I'm less convinced!
mortonjag 2007-08-24 07:23:39
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 23 2007, 12:58 PM) [snapback]320806[/snapback]
I do rate both Greacan and Harding and there is no way I reckon we need to improve that position. Both are def capable of playing at division 1 level.

Our defensive record has been fantastic with that pairing. I think people just pick up on the odd mistake and see it as the end of the world where overall our defence is pretty solid. The only defenders I would have considered replacing them with who, we've seen in the last few seasons, are Marvin Andrews and Kevin James. Would anyone really sign Andy Aitken to play ahead of Harding and Greacan?

As for the midfield protection. The reason we are playing 5 in the middle is because we have lost McLaughlin who was a good experienced player in the midfield and so have some make-shift players in there.

Also, away from home I think this is shown as a good tactic, a win and a draw with no goals conceeded looks good to me.

Mortonjag, I think you'll find any of my 'big letters' are always a sentence and a reasoned argument where, sadly it is you have resorted to 'wee boy' tactics on this occassion as you don't have a reasoned argument.

I await your smilie containing reply. Must try harder.

You are one of the most naive posters on the Board, and though I admire your self assurance, I find it mildly contradictory.

Much of what you say above has some truth. You spoil it completely by expressions like-'our record has been FANTASTIC', 'we're playing 5 in the middle because we're missing SM's EXPERIENCE', and failing to grab three points (there for the taking), as 'a good tactic'.


Would you like a 'Smiley'?


smile.gif There now, and have a nice day.
mortonjag 2007-08-24 14:18:31
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 24 2007, 07:40 AM) [snapback]321129[/snapback]
I don't know why you feel I am naive, I always see the big picture which you singularly fail to do. My confidence is well placed because my comments are genuine and backed up with an actual argument.

Please note, posting 3 smileys as a reply does not instill confidence in your arguments.

You moan for the sake of moaning and more often than not cannot back up your ridiculous points with anything more than a snidey comment or smiley.

Our defensive record is great. Don't think you will find many clubs who conceed less goals at this level.
Of course we are missing Scotty, as well as McGregor who are both ever present's when fit. Any club would find it difficult to cope without two players with probably about 300 games between them.

A point at Stirling - well looking at the big picture - this is a decent result. There is no pressure on us to go risking everything away from home. We did this twice last season and lost both games, therefore had we done it again there is every chance we could have lost again. Also in the context of getting a win at EEP, there was no need to go all gung ho.

I suspect you mean 'I always TRY to see the big picture' Either that or your conceit is bigger than your naivety.


Now let's look again at the BIG picture. Barring favoritism (not unknown at Scapa), both of those boys will be SQUAD players this season.

Let's look again at the BIG picture. We're not potential relegation or promotion material as things stand-the Stirling game was just JM covering his OWN ARSE.

Finally let's look at the BIG PICTURE a third time. Here we have a 22 year old boy who believes his opinions are facts!

That deserves many Smileys

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mortonjag 2007-08-24 14:23:11
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 24 2007, 10:16 AM) [snapback]321163[/snapback]
Paul di Giacomo loaned from Killie to Thistle...

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Corky certainly DOES seem to have some contacts in the game.
mortonjag 2007-08-24 14:38:03
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 24 2007, 07:30 AM) [snapback]321128[/snapback]
Oh dear more smilies.

Clearly doesn't have any comeback at all.

Shame, was looking forward a better response.

Which language is this?

Am I missing the bigger picture?

Don't joust with me child-you will lose!

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mortonjag 2007-08-24 14:43:11 The reason is simple-during any school holiday period, a significant proportion of the road using public is ALSO on holiday.

Most of the other stuff posted is relatively insignificant.
mortonjag 2007-08-24 14:56:00 Can't be arsed reading all your worthy comments-did Offaly Holy Willy suggest forgiveness perchance?


BIRCH THE CVNTS
mortonjag 2007-08-24 15:03:47
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Aug 24 2007, 02:53 PM) [snapback]321316[/snapback]
I'm sorry but that seems slightly like sour grapes because I work for a large multi national multi culture company in Glasgow and their "religious observance" policy covers ALL faiths.

its just there is no practising Christians in my work who take up the opportunity to pray, but if they really wanted to and not just because they get it then it would be granted them.

anyway its usually "unpaid" breaks they get for these sort of things.

Aye Sir but has it missed your attention that Christians tend to do most of their business at the weekend-JUST LIKE GOD SAID IT SHOULD BE.
mortonjag 2007-08-24 15:18:19
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Aug 24 2007, 03:11 PM) [snapback]321331[/snapback]
that would have saved you typing out your pish MJ

But I like typing


PISH
mortonjag 2007-08-24 15:23:38
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Aug 24 2007, 03:05 PM) [snapback]321324[/snapback]
he's not 16. he's 13 and three quarters.

Really-a child of 13.75 years is upsetting so many of our intelligent posters!


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mortonjag 2007-08-24 15:29:30
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Aug 23 2007, 08:53 PM) [snapback]321018[/snapback]
Im thinking about buying a new PC

I want to use it for Music / DVD's & Games

I have been looking around online all day .

Does anyone know of any good websites for buying them

the 2 I have narrowed my search down 2 are as follows

PC 1
Microsoft Windows Vista Home
Intel Core 2 Duo E6420 Dual Core Processor
2048MB DDR II 667 Memory
500GB SATA II Seagate Data Storage
NEC 7170 Multi Format DVD/CD ReWriter
nVidia GeForce 8600GT 512MB
7.1 HD Surround Sound
Intel Core 2 Duo Deluxe Motherboard
19†Widescreen TFT 5MS Flat Panel Screen
Logitech Wireless Multimedia Keyboard
Logitech Wireless Optical Mouse
Logitech S220 2.1 Speaker System
10/100 Ethernet LAN
8x USB2 Ports

£624
PC 2
AMD64 Athlon X2 6000+ AM2
Standard CPU heatsink & fan
Asus M2N4-SLI
2.0GB Kingston DDR2 667mhz (2x 1GB)
400GB S-ATA2 3.0Gb/s
18x Double-Layer DVD+/-RW
NVidia GeForce 8600GT 256MB
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic 64-bit
Wireless 802.11G PCI card
19'' Widescreen TFT Monitor
600W PSU
Case:Thermaltake Soprano VB1000BNS

£633.14

Are these any good and will they play the high spec games ???

You can play music and DVD's pretty cheaply those days without a PC.

I thought computer games were for weans.

£633.14


Shoogly's indeed a rip off merchant!
mortonjag 2007-08-24 15:36:10
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 24 2007, 02:41 PM) [snapback]321301[/snapback]
15 cents for every plastic bag you buy in Ireland - and thats not just in food shops. You buy clothes you pay for the bag - paper bags are still free of charge.

It's only when you start paying for things you notice the amount of complete and utter waste in the system.

I would highly recommend it as an effective way of influencing behaviour.

TonInDublin

Jesus-we're about to scrap the NHS! Now IF I suggest that's perhaps a GOOD idea......

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mortonjag 2007-08-24 15:43:06
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Aug 24 2007, 03:31 PM) [snapback]321353[/snapback]
Catholics have had Holy Days of Obligation for centuries in this country and have had to do their duties in their own time.

The reason the Muslims and other cultures different to ours work so well and are so tight is that they are loyal and true to each other. Unlike us who will stick up for any other race, religion etc; other than our own. Well Mortonjag is one of ours and I am sticking up for him(Hope I don't live to regret it) smile.gif

PS unlike you at your Multi National, I have work to do and only grab seconds to look at the board tongue.gif

I knew a single handed Muslim GP who f*cked off for a couple of hours every Friday afternoon, leaving his patients' care to his receptionists, LL.

He was in breach of his terms of service to the Health Board, and arguably guilty of severe professional misconduct.

Nobody had the balls to challenge it, and I've often wondered what would have happened if something had gone seriously wrong and somebody had died.

I've just stated an incontrovertible fact. I await the usual attempted defence of the indefensible by our PC lemmings.
mortonjag 2007-08-24 15:47:43 I couldn't care less. We've already seen this season that when the boys are 'up for it' we can do fine.

It would be nice to hear good vocal support from the kick off.
mortonjag 2007-08-24 15:54:16
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 24 2007, 03:32 PM) [snapback]321355[/snapback]
If I had any faith that the current incumbents of the club could actually both identify and sign players over the course of any given summer I'd agree, but I shudder to think the state of the squad were most of our players not on long-term deals.

Basically if we were Partick or QoS or Hamilton I'd agree with you, but we're not.

I suggested before that you consider politics as a career.

To score regularly we MUST have a GOODWILLIE

SHOOGLY -you could have the services of a GOODWILLIE just for the asking

What Goodwillie do if he fulfils promise like the rest of our signings?
mortonjag 2007-08-24 15:59:26
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Aug 24 2007, 03:46 PM) [snapback]321367[/snapback]
let's hear who these people are, then. name some names, mentaljag.

I'm pretty patient with you and your ilk Manky, but on this recurrent theme you play dirty every time.

If you're calling me a liar, just do it. I have stated a fact. For all I know the gentleman is still in practice.

If you're really that keen to know, I can give you some discreet information by p.m.
mortonjag 2007-08-24 16:03:54
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 24 2007, 03:53 PM) [snapback]321373[/snapback]
I'd personally shine his shoes each morning if he opted to come back.

I get the feeling we'd rapidly turn into a more professional outfit with him at the helm.

Grow up and stop spouting pish.

FFS we strolled it last year, leading from day one, and we're joint second top of the FIRST division.

You negativity boys do ma f*ckin' heid in.
mortonjag 2007-08-24 16:07:25
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 24 2007, 03:52 PM) [snapback]321372[/snapback]
I'd just like to say... no music after goals, please!

What's wrong with an occasional wee choon?
mortonjag 2007-08-24 16:12:27
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Aug 24 2007, 04:00 PM) [snapback]321378[/snapback]
I am out of this thread

narrow minded morons showing signs of paranoia and racism don't make for fun debate

I'd suggest you're being a tad harsh on yourself, but if you can't cope with legitimate takes on the issue, maybe you shouldn't have ventured your OPINION in the first place.
mortonjag 2007-08-24 16:18:43
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 24 2007, 04:12 PM) [snapback]321392[/snapback]
I'm more than happy living a life outside politics tongue.gif

I hope you and I are more than happy at 4.50 p.m. tomorrow! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-24 16:25:44
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 24 2007, 04:14 PM) [snapback]321393[/snapback]
Relevance? rolleyes.gif

Don't try to hide behind one word/Smiley cop outs-you KNOW what I mean.

I'll 'MORE professional' you-Mr McInally has shown beyond a shadow of doubt he's a professional-he even played for Scotland-how much MORE professional can you get. Mr Rae's a professional businessman too-are you suggesting he's not? Marl Farrell's a professional Groundsman--.

How can we be MORE professional-as I said you negativity boys are never happier than when you're having a good old moan.

MORE PROFESSIONAL indeed! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-24 16:29:42
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Aug 24 2007, 04:24 PM) [snapback]321402[/snapback]
Oh right so not only having a go at the Muslims MJ but a go at the disabled too!!

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mortonjag 2007-08-24 16:34:06
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Aug 24 2007, 04:25 PM) [snapback]321403[/snapback]
Anyway what is wrong with protecting Our Culture, Our Way of Life. Why are we not afforded that luxury? We've not to even discuss it! We have to sit back and let everyone else defend theirs!:( l

That's the sort of comment which will have you rapidly branded as a founder member of the BNP, LL.

I often wonder how many of our 'enlightened' posters have given serious thought to the issue. I also STRONGLY suspect that many of the most vociferous have a vested interest in what they 'preach'.

Like yourself, I do at times wonder why an unnacceptable pace of change has infected our culture.

What's done in haste may be regretted at leisure, and fortunately I won't be around to see it.

I wish the same could be said for my children.
mortonjag 2007-08-25 03:48:13
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 24 2007, 05:15 PM) [snapback]321445[/snapback]
That may be, just as change, change management and progress are terms bandied by the young turks. The trick is determining what changes are for the better, and what are for worse. The older I get, the less sure I become, the more I know, the more I realise what there is still to learn. Anyway, less of the ageist terms like 'Old Fart', or I'll complain to the boardmasters, Sonny Boy.

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mortonjag 2007-08-25 03:54:30
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 24 2007, 05:47 PM) [snapback]321465[/snapback]
For god's sake dont tell MJ - he'll be running for office.

TonInDublin


THE EIGHT BEATITUDES OF JESUS (AS POSTED ON THE WALL OF HIS FACTORY NEAR DUBLIN)


"Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are they who mourn,
for they shall be comforted.

Blessed are the meek,
for they shall inherit the earth.

Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they shall be satisfied.

Blessed are the merciful,
for they shall obtain mercy.

Blessed are the pure of heart,
for they shall see God.

Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they shall be called children of God.

Blessed are they who are persecuted for the sake of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."


Gospel of Matthew 5:3-10


The Beatitude of Mortonjag

Blessed be Ton in Dublin
May his next jobby be a hedgehog.
mortonjag 2007-08-25 04:10:45
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Aug 24 2007, 04:32 PM) [snapback]321414[/snapback]
It reminds me of Jim Oliver at Partick Thistle who famously said something along the lines that he'd happily employ a one legged black lesbian saxophone player if they could do the job. I've no idea what the saxophony skills had to do with it, perhaps saxophone players are discriminated against in the jazz world.

Ask Tonsilitis!
mortonjag 2007-08-25 04:12:10
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Aug 24 2007, 04:44 PM) [snapback]321428[/snapback]
I often wonder how many of our 'enlightened' posters have given serious thought to the issue. I also STRONGLY suspect that many of the most vociferous have a vested interest in what they 'preach'.

Like yourself, I do at times wonder why an unnacceptable pace of change has infected our culture.

What's done in haste may be regretted at leisure, and fortunately I won't be around to see it.

I wish the same could be said for my children.


That, I do find highly insulting and indicative of what I just said. I would rather you removed it. "Why can we not stick up for our own"(Our own being Scottish)

You totally misunderstood me.

You have a p.m.
mortonjag 2007-08-25 04:14:57
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Aug 24 2007, 06:06 PM) [snapback]321485[/snapback]
i want to live in cowal eventually. i like the local culture.

Is there no end to this man's incisively sardonic wit? dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-25 04:25:38
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 24 2007, 08:51 PM) [snapback]321564[/snapback]
the worm turns

You've been in hibernation then?
mortonjag 2007-08-25 04:36:14
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 24 2007, 11:56 PM) [snapback]321684[/snapback]
Maybe you're right, I was just thinking in terms of efficiency. Instead we should force the louts to pick up the litter at gunpoint. If they refuse, then shoot them. laugh.gif

Purely in terms of efficiency it would be better just to shoot everybody who ventures onto our streets. Think of the huge recycling benefits too.

I'm surprised they have not already introduced the measure in the Dublin area, where already everything is nigh perfect, the Sun shines 24 hours a day, and factory managers' offices have mirrored walls.
mortonjag 2007-08-25 04:45:18 The regulations state that the job must be performed by a 'competent person'. That is now taken to mean anybody with a wee Corgi badge (even if he's clearly unable to stand properly)!

It's easier to do than changing some lightbulbs, and one's nose is a very sophisticated sensor of significant gas leagages, though you can sponge some soapy water over the joints and look for tiny bubbles if you enjoy that kind of thing.

There again, if you MUST conform, and will lose sleep if you dont, I suppose it's money well spent! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-25 04:48:33 Payout day for OAP gents.
mortonjag 2007-08-25 04:58:13
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 24 2007, 06:24 PM) [snapback]321502[/snapback]
You are not meant to post on my forum, only vote rolleyes.gif

Why are you heading up a MOM poll when your short term memory's f*cked.

I believe that's what you claimed recently!
mortonjag 2007-08-25 05:03:35
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Aug 24 2007, 06:40 PM) [snapback]321520[/snapback]
OK, I’ve bitten, taken the bait and have been reeled in to this.
I’m only going to post this once.

The club, as Andy has pointed out, put out a request through the official site for someone to do the tannoy this season. For some reason I always fancied giving it a go. I’ve stood in the Cowshed for over thirty years and felt like doing something for the club, on a voluntary basis. I’d imagine it’s one of a handful of jobs at Cappielow which is unpaid, and I’m happy to do that. So I sent in a brief note to say I’d help out if I could.

As for experience, I’ve been a musician and singer with local bands for several years and I’m familiar with p.a. systems and am reasonably confident with a microphone. No, not the best, but I feel I can do the job. I’ve done it twice so far this season and am still feeling my way. I take note of the volume comments and will try to adjust this on Saturday.

To say that Crawford and I are “mates†Thornton is “bullcrapâ€. I know the guy to talk to but that’s as far as it goes. I’ll maybe have a word with Susan on Saturday and put that right.

Now Thornton you also referred to me as a “f*d†on a previous thread in relation to me playing a particular song which I now understand is/was Kilmarnock’s run out tune. I was not aware this was the case and apologise if it caused you any distress. No, wait a minute; I couldn’t give a flying f*ck if it (t)annoyed you! Please feel free to pop down to the tannoy room at any time and I’ll gladly jam the mic up your ronson lighter and you can talk as much sh*te through the Cappielow tannoy system as you talk on here. No charge.
Sour grapes? I think so.
Whoever made Thornton a moderator on here needs their head examined. I’ve never come across a more arrogant, ignorant poster.

As for choice of music, there are 5 year old kids, teenagers, 30 somethings, middle-agers, pensioners. I’m trying to mix it a bit, it’s the only way. And the Live is Life CD vanished, cannot find it anywhere… I don’t think a post goal tune is worthwhile, that’s what the Cowshed is for. It’s one of those things you’ll never please all the folk all the time.

I knew when I took on the job that there would be some criticism after being advised by previous ‘tannoyers’, but keep it constructive and free of personal abuse please.

Now if anyone feels that they want to make a formal complaint to the club regarding my comments above feel free, after reading some of the bile on here I’d gladly dodge the pre-pubescent nonsense and re-join my mates in the ‘shed. Similarly if you do not think I am up to the job.

At the end of the day I’m a Morton Supporter, have been for over 30 years and am doing a voluntary job for the club. If you don’t like the way I’m doing things then make that formal complaint.

Regards

Alasdair McGregor

Alasdair, could you please play 'Who's sorry now' this afternoon.

A request dedicated to 'Chocolate Boy' from his Uncle Mortonjag! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-25 05:07:33
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Aug 24 2007, 08:32 PM) [snapback]321552[/snapback]
Did he not fancy a shot at any of the mechanics?
PS - I've decided im going to take on MortonJag for his crown of most irritating and irrelevant poster.

That's neither irritating nor irrelevant M4RKO, it's just a rather poor pun, but keep trying! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-25 05:17:07
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 24 2007, 05:48 PM) [snapback]321468[/snapback]
I reckon we're at cross-purposes here.

RLY! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-25 05:21:53
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Aug 24 2007, 08:58 PM) [snapback]321569[/snapback]
Because Mcinally coming out and saying Dougie is interfering would not achieve anything positive for the players and the club as a whole .. The only thing it would do is cause frictions between the club and the fans and would end his career as morton manager ..

Correct-puppets are perforce operated by ventriloquists.
mortonjag 2007-08-25 05:23:55
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Aug 24 2007, 09:42 PM) [snapback]321597[/snapback]
As an ex-pat and 'newbie' on this messageboard I don't pretend to know all of the background to this thread, but the negative attitude of some of the posters towards the manager is quite jaw-dropping. As this is a public forum, washing all this dirty linen can't be good for the image of the Club. sad.gif

It's not supposed to be, though they do a damned good job at presenting a pathetic public image without additional help.
mortonjag 2007-08-25 05:27:12
QUOTE(Tinton @ Aug 24 2007, 10:45 PM) [snapback]321640[/snapback]
I am also amazed at the negativity towards the team and the manager. Last season I firmly believed that the squad we had then would compete adequately in the first division and nothing this season so far has shaken that view. If there is a growing band of anti-McInally feelings within the support I am not aware of it, other than a few malcontents on this forum. The man has done a good job for Morton and I hope he will continue to do so for some time to come. We were champions last season, are doing well so far this season, what will it take to satisfy some people? When you are booing and abusing Jim McInally be assured you are NOT doing it in my name.

As for the lambasting Mr Rae takes on here it can only be described as disgraceful. Some people have short memories and forget that to a large extent he saved the club from extinction and that he continues to support the club financially to a significant extent.

Both Jim McInally and Douglas Rae, in my humble opinion, have been nothing but good for Morton Football Club. I may not always agree with the tactics employed in particular games but I am mature enough to know that Jim McInally has considerably greater experience and knowledge about football than I, and may I suggest than most if not all who post on this forum.

I'm sure that's correct TT.

Now what about his experience in, and knowledge of football management?
mortonjag 2007-08-25 05:32:58
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 24 2007, 11:04 PM) [snapback]321665[/snapback]
You've got to be careful making statements like the above because for some people with their own agendas it means that you are probably several bricks short of a load, irrespective of your educational background and football credentials. Most of the critics have never been involved with football at any level or even run a business but they are all well qualified to dissect everything that goes on at Cappielow in the minutest detail and turn it to support their own negative arguments.

You should know that you are not allowed to arrive at your conclusions because that makes you a f*d (the current preferred description) if those conclusion differ from the intelligensia on here. If you use words like pessimists, ungrateful, myopic, agendas, narrow minded, and the like in relation to anyone then you must be stupid.

Just like me!

Tonsilitis in ingratiating clutch at last straw rose tinted friend.
mortonjag 2007-08-25 05:37:14
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Aug 25 2007, 01:12 AM) [snapback]321713[/snapback]
Really thought that after last week, where we played one up front against the 'mighty' Stirling Albion, we'd have made damned sure of having a new striker signed up before the Accies game. Will it be one up front (who has a very average scoring record) in a home game on Saturday? That would be a poor show, if Morton are effectively forced to play only one up front against Hamilton Accies at Cappielow.

If we don't make any significant signings before the transfer window closes we're going to struggle. No further signings would pretty much mean the transfer window was a badly handled shambles for Morton... amateurish (so much focus on McGowan for months, while other possible signings went elsewhere)

We have a week to find out if those in charge at Cappielow are good at their jobs or not... or to put it another way, they have a week to save face.

Maybe a LOT better than you think.

'Don't you think those boys deseve to take us forward'? Maybe not one of Shoogly's throwaway comments after all.

Can't wait to read today's 'Chairman's Notes'!
mortonjag 2007-08-25 05:42:33
QUOTE(thedonn @ Aug 25 2007, 04:57 AM) [snapback]321742[/snapback]
dont gas cookers have bullit connections i think thats what you call them, the cooker comes with a hose that plugs into the gas connection at least thats what mine does never needed acorgi registered fitter, its just a push fit

Correct, but you get shot if you perform this simple task without a Corgi badge.

Only if something goes wrong mind you!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-25 05:45:07
QUOTE(thedonn @ Aug 25 2007, 04:36 AM) [snapback]321738[/snapback]
good i bet he never drops another post it

Aye but it was outside the 'Nick' and had 'F*CK THE POLIS' written on it in big letters.
mortonjag 2007-08-25 05:49:12
QUOTE(Magic Mathie @ Aug 25 2007, 04:41 AM) [snapback]321739[/snapback]
i want to live in cowal eventually. i like the local culture.
What's wrong with the Cowal?

You can build a nice makeshift shed out by Loch Eck, practice 'duelling banjos' and scare the tourists stopping off at Coylet. Well that was my first 8 years - can't wait to retire and go back to Sandbank to pick up where I left off!

I love Cowal too MM-the muckit mongrel was taking a side swipe at Loyal Lass.

His raison d'etre is bringing other posters down-that and worshipping Offally Holy Willie.
mortonjag 2007-08-25 05:55:01
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 25 2007, 02:11 AM) [snapback]321720[/snapback]
As much as it pains me this is probably the most sage and sensible post ever in this, or any other board.

An outstanding insight.

Hamcam, for the first, and trust me last, time ..... I salute you sir.

TonInDublin

I see Jesus has been at the bottle again!

Sensible opinion Ham Cam! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-25 05:58:32
QUOTE(Magic Mathie @ Aug 25 2007, 05:55 AM) [snapback]321757[/snapback]
I should really try reading the rest of the thread before posting!

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...but why be any different from 95% of posters MM?
mortonjag 2007-08-25 11:44:52
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Aug 25 2007, 09:08 AM) [snapback]321793[/snapback]
no, i wasn't. don't put words into my mouth, you ignorant, pompous p***k.

Sometimes you are a complete clot-and YES YOU WERE.

You young, ignorant, pompous apology for a s*** encrusted dildo.
mortonjag 2007-08-25 11:51:25
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 25 2007, 09:24 AM) [snapback]321803[/snapback]
Concise. To the point. Technically correct.

I like it !

Trust me manky, the ignore button's your only man. I swear it's therapeutic, and allows you to actually enjoy this board again - after a couple of months of finding it a chore because of the pish you have to read.

And even attempting to rationalise anything with the Happy Hauptmann is a bit like running your face down a rough cast wall - when you stop it immediately feels a whole lot better. Better to just leave him alone - it gives him more time to design new uniforms and fancy symbols for his armbands. I've come to the conclusion that he's completely fúcking barking.

TonInDublin

Ah Sir, but I am the medically qualified of the two of us. Your almost uniquely paranoid narcissism is clearly beyond remedy. Have you EVER considered the possibility that most of the posters have YOU on 'ignore'.

Mind you the self congratulatory back slapping which you share with that mangy beast probably blinds you to everything else.

Go and read a beatitude Jesus-I love you too! wink.gif

mortonjag 2007-08-25 11:53:51
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Aug 25 2007, 11:02 AM) [snapback]321868[/snapback]
i took him off ignore a while back because i thought i'd misjudged him and that what was annoying me was an online persona, not the person. but the mask has slipped a good few times now. i'm thinking again that he really is as unpleasant as he would appear.

back on ignore with the arrogant c***.

Another self blind fool hits the huff button! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-25 12:01:51
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 25 2007, 11:17 AM) [snapback]321882[/snapback]
No.
Hate to be pedantic, but I wouldn't call it a smiley either. tongue.gif
dry.gif dry.gif dry.gif dry.gif dry.gif
smile.gif

Just a word of advice young VT-and as 'it' has me 'on ignore' that flea bitten dug won't see it.

He actually has NO opinions, and although of some intelligence, exists on this board merely to daily reassure himself he's smarter than everybody else. His Offally Holy Willie friend is similar, though more of a preacher.

If either of them senses his authority or Mensa mind is being challenged, they indulge in a cyber 'hug in'.

A pair of distasteful little boys if ever I've had the fortune not to meet one.
mortonjag 2007-08-25 12:16:07
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Aug 25 2007, 11:25 AM) [snapback]321885[/snapback]
It is my understanding that due to SAFETY - ALL new gas cookers come WITHOUT the final piece of gas pipe which connects the appliance to the wall outlet, at one end of the pipe (wall end) it is a push bayonet type fitment and at the other end (cooker) it is a screw type fitment, which is the safety aspect of this connection I would rather have checked for leaks.

I am far more than capable of fitting a pie to the cooker by tightening a thread and also fitting it to the wall outlet by pushing and twisting a connection. However, the area for concern is that of safety and as the cooker is being installed into the house of elederly In-laws and we are temporarily residing with them together with our 4 week old baby I thought it wise to get the cooker installed by someone who can complete the installation and check for leaks at the same time.

BUT as Davie McArthur points out that I am quite obviously too lazy to find a number myself even though I have taken the trouble to drive to the shop, choose the cooker, pay for it and then posted on this forum to ask if anyone local can do it so as to help their localbusiness rather than line the pockets of the bigger fish.

Yes, you are entitled to your opinion as everyone is but on this occasion I feel your opinion was totally unjustified and downright pathetic and in doing so you have shown what a complete c**k you are!

In future don't bother as I can assure you I won't!

You can buy them in B & Q-I understand your need to be ultra careful MT, but the job's a dawdle really, and I believe you're an engineer, so you'd do it nae bother.

Don't forget Mains Gas pressure is very low, compared to water pressure, and you can turn off at the meter in seconds. Once you've fitted the bayonet-a wee grease of the old socket with Vaseline or Fairy Liquid sometimes helps, all you have to do is screw the other end onto the cooker fitting, and give it a wee tighten up. Turn on the gas and sniff around both ends of the connection. If you don't smell gas your're ok, but you can make up a strong solution of detergent if you like, and brush it or sponge it around the joints. Even a totally trivial and essentially harmless leak shows as little bubbles.
mortonjag 2007-08-25 12:29:47
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 25 2007, 09:52 AM) [snapback]321816[/snapback]
Welcome, avoid the one known as mortonjag!

How do you know this 'Marco' isn't Mortonjag, puggs?

How many identities do I have-it's getting heavy going at times, keeping up as Le Chien Manque, Ton in Dublin, Vikington, and Deego all at once.

BTW Marco-welcome aboard-if you've any sense of humour and fair play you'll find Mortonjag's bark's worse than his bite.

If you're one of those self satisfied wee phannies who thinks he's always right, when in fact the opposite almost always applies, push the 'huff button' for MJ right now. It's the short pink stick to the right of your keyboard (covered in slever and dried spunk).

Oops sorry, that's Le Chien's huff button.

Have a nice day, and Mon 'e Ton!!
mortonjag 2007-08-25 12:39:33
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 25 2007, 09:27 AM) [snapback]321805[/snapback]
You keep calling me a child? What age do you think I am?

Is this your attempt to belittle me? Even if i was a schoolie, still running rings round your pathetic arguments.

Unless you are a liar in addition to being a self opinionated little phannie, you state on your personal page that you are 22 years of age.

Now I appreciate everything's relative Son, but that's five years younger than my YOUNGEST child, and as far as I'm concerned she's still just my 'wee lassie'.

Your knowledge of football-AND of life is inevitably restricted by your lack of years. Accept that, and learn from your elders-we're not always right-just MOST of the time! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-25 12:44:26
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Aug 25 2007, 12:38 PM) [snapback]321944[/snapback]
whoa. i feel sick after reading that. enough is enough. i think mj has just crossed the line into ignoreland.

Well Sir you'll no doubt find your little pink stick all the quicker for my having drawn your attention to it.

Have a good tug-get rid of your pent up frustration!

There-magic eh! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-25 12:49:07
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 25 2007, 12:30 PM) [snapback]321938[/snapback]
My AV software detected spyware and a serious threat from this site. I would suggest people don't use the link.

F*ck it-rumbled again.
mortonjag 2007-08-26 06:55:03
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 25 2007, 05:43 PM) [snapback]322179[/snapback]
Yes, we needed someone to run at that type of defence.
Accies deserved their win but were flattered by 2-0. Without a striker this will be a long cold autumn and winter in the league. sad.gif

So if they'd won 1-0, they'd 'JUST' have 'deserved the win'! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-26 07:22:10
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 26 2007, 01:05 AM) [snapback]322632[/snapback]
Last year when we had the Taxi for McInally thread , I said he'd win us the league and then on his achievements this term we could properly judge him .
I know we have the 7 points made a good start but with very limited attractive football . We can't continue being so negative , especially at home
If DDFR has curbed his spending while at the same time trying to squander a large sum on McGowan doesn't make sense . We needed to strengthen and so far we haven't made any major signings to rectify this .
It is too late to sack him at this point in time as any new manager would have his hands tied with being unable to bring in his own players . So we are forced to sit and wait until nearer the January transfer window before giving consideration on McInally's future .

Chris I think an awful lot depends on what's going on behind the scenes. If it's a contented dressing room, I'd let JM stay at the moment, and PRAY for a couple of signings by Friday. It's not to late yet, and the guy is only doing his best.

Having said that, I have serious reservations about his 'kudos' with the lads. If THEY feel let down at the moment, I'd hail that taxi forthwith.
mortonjag 2007-08-26 07:29:53 I believe all the players did their best yesterday, and so did JM.

I agree it was awful.
mortonjag 2007-08-26 07:36:34
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 26 2007, 01:37 AM) [snapback]322641[/snapback]
I remember you thought the players had their names on the back of their shirts laugh.gif

I guess I must sit quite near Mr Myopia, 'cos I read it as he did-thought Shields just turned the ball slightly as Offiong went over his leg. Will there be any high tech video evidence? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-26 07:45:06 I didn't hear any abuse from where I was sitting, though the old guy next to me (and he WAS old) kept making comments to his equally old mate about Offiong being able to 'run away from lions, so our defence had no chance'.

I think those may have been racist comments, and if anybody wants me to report him to the police, I know who he is.
mortonjag 2007-08-26 07:51:08
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Aug 25 2007, 12:47 PM) [snapback]321959[/snapback]
aah beautiful.

"You have chosen to ignore all posts from: mortonjag.

· View this post
· Un-ignore mortonjag "

What beats me is why those weans always regard a 'cop out' as an achievement to boast about.

Oh well-another one bites the dust!



...'til the next time rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-26 07:55:31 One of the guys most guilty of playing that pointless long ball should instead be PLAYING ALONGSIDE Sanny.

'Peter is the best striker at the club'.

If that's the case Mr McInally, I'd suggest that yesterday tactics prove beyond reasonable doubt that you are a complete clown.
mortonjag 2007-08-26 08:00:32
QUOTE(Tinton @ Aug 24 2007, 10:45 PM) [snapback]321640[/snapback]
I am also amazed at the negativity towards the team and the manager. Last season I firmly believed that the squad we had then would compete adequately in the first division and nothing this season so far has shaken that view. If there is a growing band of anti-McInally feelings within the support I am not aware of it, other than a few malcontents on this forum. The man has done a good job for Morton and I hope he will continue to do so for some time to come. We were champions last season, are doing well so far this season, what will it take to satisfy some people? When you are booing and abusing Jim McInally be assured you are NOT doing it in my name.

As for the lambasting Mr Rae takes on here it can only be described as disgraceful. Some people have short memories and forget that to a large extent he saved the club from extinction and that he continues to support the club financially to a significant extent.

Both Jim McInally and Douglas Rae, in my humble opinion, have been nothing but good for Morton Football Club. I may not always agree with the tactics employed in particular games but I am mature enough to know that Jim McInally has considerably greater experience and knowledge about football than I, and may I suggest than most if not all who post on this forum.


You still have failed to answer my question-are you doubting your maturity?

I often do.
mortonjag 2007-08-26 08:08:16 Is this gentleman paid a salary as well, or is he just a token 'Suit on the bench', in case folks accuse JM of looking like an untidy tramp talking to some fat guy.
mortonjag 2007-08-26 08:10:51
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 25 2007, 09:45 PM) [snapback]322457[/snapback]
No.
Disgusting larvae turn into disusting moths by metemorphosis. wink.gif

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mortonjag 2007-08-26 08:14:25
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 25 2007, 10:55 PM) [snapback]322581[/snapback]
After Dougie telling how good a judge of a player in his matchday ramble about Graham , I was rather surprised he wasn't put on before Coakley , then again I would pick Mark Farrell before Coakley . mad.gif

I see Shoogly was down to one page yesterday-things may be looking up. I haven't bothered to read it yet, as I'm a bit constipated right now.
mortonjag 2007-08-26 08:18:05
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Aug 25 2007, 06:15 PM) [snapback]322223[/snapback]
Why not? He made one bad pass today and as usual he was totally dominant in the air. The numpty beside him however...

MotM? Ermm..........................unsure.gif

I hate to criticise individual players-Stu, as always, played his heart out, but he went for half a dozen balls he should have left for others. One of those gallant lunges from all of 35 yards (past two better placed team mates), ended up with the ball yet again going to an opponent from Stu's header-it was played forward into space-a wee cross ball to unmarked Offiong-BINGO! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-26 08:22:03
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Aug 25 2007, 06:24 PM) [snapback]322240[/snapback]
The wee man was once again ineffective in the midfield, no fault of his, all down to the manager. I think today Spoonsy should have been up front, Stevenson back in centre-mid and Shields at right back. Using his squad like a pack of cards, shocking JM mad.gif

Agree with all of that!

BTW-nae joker either.
mortonjag 2007-08-26 08:35:52 I thought that was a fairly polished performance-I liked the clear diction in particular-didn't have to use the ear trumpet once.

Chocolate boy will no doubt disagree.
mortonjag 2007-08-26 08:39:17 If Linn was fit yesterday and not even on the bench, I'm more convinced than ever that Shoogly's picking the team.
mortonjag 2007-08-26 08:42:44
QUOTE(dazza @ Aug 26 2007, 04:09 AM) [snapback]322647[/snapback]
Half time- their subs were bein warmed up by the coach. Full warm up , stretching, passing, moving etc.

What do we do? What we usually do! kick the ball about like children!!!!!

Billy Reid- oozed class, suit, good tactics , everyone kne exactly what they were doing.

Us- McInally changed formation 4 times( i made it) Jay Shields to left back with Kieran centre mid ultimatley cost us the game

When offiong and the other boy came off they went to warm down near enough straight away, We are supposably the fittest team in the league but hamilton were imo fitter, hungier and had bags more talent on and off the park!
McInally please play McAllistair left mid. Stevenson through the middle. Sign two strikers , a midfielder and a left back! Maybe even a centre half!!! You have had over 2 months and still no real quality! If you keep on lke this. IE not a clue tactically, no signings or great quality,we WILL be back down again this season!

One thing's for sure-Reid had us well 'sussed' yesterday.
mortonjag 2007-08-26 08:45:28
QUOTE(Tinton @ Aug 26 2007, 07:29 AM) [snapback]322654[/snapback]
I agree the squad needs strengthening. Morton tried to make signing over the summer and lost out on almost all. Some may say that with a few of the players we were after we were over ambitious. We are a team that is new to the first division after too many years in lower leagues and that makes us less attractive. I saw an interview with Craig Levein where he was bemoaning the fact that he had went for five players over the summer and lost out on all of them so it’s not just a Morton or a Jim McInally phenomenon.

Really-we are potentially the BIGGEST club in this league except for Dundee.

Which 1st division club does Mr Levein manage BTW?
mortonjag 2007-08-26 08:55:44
QUOTE(lush @ Aug 26 2007, 08:37 AM) [snapback]322675[/snapback]
I hope you are not trying to upset Thorntons now, thats not nice. wink.gif

That young man is so wrapped up in his own silver paper he's impenetrable!
mortonjag 2007-08-26 08:57:41
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 26 2007, 08:39 AM) [snapback]322677[/snapback]
Was it Auld Shoogly and Arthur? Would you really nark them to the polis?

Arthur's too much of a gentleman, and Shoogly thinks a 'lion' is one of his competitors.
mortonjag 2007-08-26 09:01:13
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 26 2007, 08:55 AM) [snapback]322685[/snapback]
In football? Probably Roy Keane. He has the gaze of a psychopath.

As one with no small knowledge of those matters DE, there are different classes of psychopath.

Mr Rae undoubtedly has the gaze of a benign old gentleman-those are the types who frequently take longer to diagnose!
mortonjag 2007-08-26 09:03:07
QUOTE(lush @ Aug 26 2007, 08:59 AM) [snapback]322688[/snapback]
You better watch, he will delete you.

Oh-go on then Chocolate Boy wield your new found power!
mortonjag 2007-08-26 09:06:02
QUOTE(MarcoTon @ Aug 26 2007, 09:04 AM) [snapback]322692[/snapback]
Just read this mornings papers and it is believed that Motherwell are ready to swoop for Jimbo, with a cash plus player deal. Martyn Corrigan the likely candidate.

Surely not! Jim is one of our biggest assets. Does anyone else know more?

I'd hate to lose him, but have been saying for over a season that Jimbo will NEVER realise his potential under JM. If he goes-good luck to the lad.
mortonjag 2007-08-26 09:10:34
QUOTE(Scapaflow @ Aug 26 2007, 08:42 AM) [snapback]322678[/snapback]
We had another 2 players who went off injured today, Walker and Stevenson and did anyone else notice about 5 mins after Stevenson was taken off Andy Bryan taking a pair off crutches into the tunnel.
If these 2 guys are unavailabe next week and we don't sign anyone we will get crucified this year
I thought the 2nd Division had a bunch of hatchet men but so far either we have been unlucky or this league will sort the men out from the boys so we can look forward to a season with a lot of personel changes and the treatment room well used.

I believe the crutches were actually needed for one of the Hamilton players who called Jay Shields a Pouffey Dwarf.

Jay is very sensitive about his height.
mortonjag 2007-08-26 09:13:00
QUOTE(Tonto @ Aug 25 2007, 09:41 PM) [snapback]322448[/snapback]
Today was a watershed for this Morton boy....30 years and counting.

I've never expressed any opinions on the current management team.. I consider it crass and frankly Thatcherite to call for the removal of someone's livelihood.

However....

The current Morton team is being mis-managed.
It does not matter how you dress up the facts. "1st loss..new to the league...young team" ..etc..

Consider this

Jay Shields... SPL standard right back.... Played in midfield
Jamie Stevenson... widely recognised as one of the better midfielders outwith SPL.... played as a striker.
Peter Weatherson... Best striker employed by GMFC ..played at right back and consequently annonymous (today)

Under the current managment team, success this season will be avoiding relegation.

I am no boo boy.. however, if Morton are to prosper, something has to give.

One more thing... everybody is banging on about a striker being required.
I would suggest that a centre back of 1st division standard is more urgently required. If Morton want to stay in this division, this requirement takes precedence.

Roll on next Saturday. Let's see Morton sent out with a professional shape which puts players in positions which they know instead of charging about like a pub tea which only met in the car park.

Over and out.... gonne go a square go with a bottle of Rioja now...

Keep the faith...

I like the smoke signals tonto! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-26 09:26:49 Mr McInally has a wealth of experience, and is clearly doing his very best.

It's a sad day when people get torn to shreds for doing their very best.

I once knew a surgeon-an absolute gem of a man-he always did his very best. Nobody could believe his post operative mortality rate was twice the National average. Fortunately doctors can bury their mistakes.
mortonjag 2007-08-26 09:33:30 LCM-'That's much better'

Offally Holy Willie ' laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif '

rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-26 09:41:36 Why do people have to find excuses for man's inhumanity to man?

Prevention's better than cure, but as parental responsibility has become largely a thing of the past, everything including the education system's now being blamed.

The victim in any scenario is largely ignored-I'd prefer deterrence, but failing an efficient flogging system, I think the stage has been reached where summary execution in public must be considered.

Many of the offenders would, I believe, be extremely capable of administering their own fatal injection.
mortonjag 2007-08-26 14:06:19
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Aug 26 2007, 11:13 AM) [snapback]322794[/snapback]
Dean Keenan is not good enuff to pull on a morton shirt, the guy is mince. A headless chicken who touches the ball like its a hot potato, How on god's earth can he be your man of the match.

Madness

Could it be that Deano is your reason for hating manpower?
mortonjag 2007-08-26 14:14:17
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 26 2007, 01:08 PM) [snapback]322846[/snapback]
Age is irrelevant Jim, we've had a lot of s*** players in their thirties. If you're good enough, you're old enough.

I couldn't agree more-the SPL is brimming with vastly experienced 17 year olds! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-26 14:16:50 Coakley's just a youngster. Joe Jordan was sh*te at cappielow.
mortonjag 2007-08-26 14:21:48
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 26 2007, 10:11 AM) [snapback]322736[/snapback]
No way can we afford to lose Jimbo. Been our best player this season by a mile. Can't wait till Scotty comes back and Jim gets back down the wing.

Really hope we hold onto him.

Really Son-you talk a pile of crap at times. You state that the Harding Greacen duo copes easily at this level-see McGregor and McLaughlin as significantly better than the guys who played yesterday, and state Jimbo's been our best player this season BY A MILE.

The truth is that you completely let your heart rule your head. Jimbo has definite potential, but he needs guidance before he'll ever be the finished article.

A perfect example was his laying off a gilt edged scoring chance to Sanny yesterday.
mortonjag 2007-08-26 14:35:11 I hope I'm not overstepping the mark. If the final result of Celtic 0-Rangers 0 was met with universal booing, would that suggest that Ton fans are religiously enlightened?
mortonjag 2007-08-26 14:38:15
QUOTE(Kaney @ Aug 26 2007, 10:36 AM) [snapback]322752[/snapback]
Roughly a 6th, 7th, or 8th place 'consolidation' year is what we should be aiming for.
Arent we on course? huh.gif
Whats this ridiculous need to kick McInally already?

Do you all expect him to win us the league?

Wtf? blink.gif

Ah-that explains yesterday's apparently total managerial ineptitude!

He's AIMING for 6th place or lower.
mortonjag 2007-08-26 14:42:28
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 26 2007, 10:15 AM) [snapback]322737[/snapback]
Hard to criticise him given the position he's in and lack of service. Def looks short of confidence but really forced into playing him where he is not suited.

Agreed!

How often did you see him play for Alloa-at the end of the season before last that boy WAS f*ckin' Alloa.

The rest is history.
mortonjag 2007-08-26 14:45:04
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Aug 26 2007, 02:37 PM) [snapback]322929[/snapback]
Why cant it just be met with the same 'We don't give a f.u.c.k' silence as Montrose vs Dumbarton? huh.gif

wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-26 14:51:48
QUOTE(centralTON @ Aug 26 2007, 02:22 PM) [snapback]322910[/snapback]
MJ, saw him against Stenny and the Shire, Joe Jordan, he aint.

I didn't suggest he is a budding Jordan-merely that it's unfair to slate him the way people have been doing. IF we'd won yesterday, and the lad had made a couple of decent runs, half the posters would be hailing him as the new Pele.

...and Jordon WAS pish at Scapa-did you see him play as a kid?
mortonjag 2007-08-26 14:56:15
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Aug 26 2007, 01:37 PM) [snapback]322867[/snapback]
Mine also.

But is JM not on a 2 year contract? It would take a good deal of compo to bag him unsure.gif

I'd ask JM if I were you.

I'm sure you'll get a negative answer.
mortonjag 2007-08-26 15:00:53
QUOTE(MrX @ Aug 26 2007, 02:57 PM) [snapback]322957[/snapback]
laugh.gif
Part time: Yes, only get to about 7 games a year, because I live out of the country. Has my money not been welcome for the last 30 years?

Bigot: No, only been to OF grounds to watch Scotland.

Stone: Sorry, 3 bedroom mid-tarrace. Shall I crawl back their for you laugh.gif

Wee pleb laugh.gif

I love that word-lets have more

PLEBS
mortonjag 2007-08-26 15:04:41
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Aug 26 2007, 01:22 PM) [snapback]322858[/snapback]
Dont know what to say really, to sum up what i saw yesterday, erm

]Pish huh.gif

Would that be as in


SPOUTING PISH


or just common or garden pish?
mortonjag 2007-08-26 15:19:43
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Aug 26 2007, 03:06 PM) [snapback]322970[/snapback]
I'd go for dog pish personally.

Any particular breed?
mortonjag 2007-08-26 15:26:02
QUOTE(Lovedaddy @ Aug 26 2007, 03:16 PM) [snapback]322987[/snapback]
Mclaughlin is just as bad as keenan. He canny bass a ball 3 feet to another morton player just kicks it whatever way hes facing.

I honestly cannot see why people on here rate him at all. Our best centre mid is playing at left back!!!!

They've all got good and bad points. McLaughlin is a huge asset when we're under pressure, but pretty useless going forward. Keenan makes up for lack of ability with urgency and energy, and occasionally produces flashes of inspiration. Of the three Walker's the best footballer, but a bit short on pace.
mortonjag 2007-08-26 15:32:30
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Aug 26 2007, 03:20 PM) [snapback]322998[/snapback]
if you're talking about tommy two-scarf types, then you're wrong. anyone who follows one of the old firm isn't as much of a mortonian as me. being a morton fan is as much about hating the sectarianism of those rancid football clubs as anything else.

unsure.gif

'I support Greenock Morton largely because I hate Rangers and Celtic-jolly good old chap-why not just join the local tiddlywinks club-the admission's much cheaper, and you can still choose the colours you prefer.
mortonjag 2007-08-26 15:36:17
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 26 2007, 03:28 PM) [snapback]323016[/snapback]
He scored a few last season, no?
Scored equaliser against Raith and also against Peterhead at Cappielow at least.
He's good at picking the ball up during an attack and spreading the play.
Good threat from edge of the box.

I don't deny that VT, but his 'hit rate' even from those attempts is no better than Deano's.

I'm talking about his general attitude-he almost inevitably lays off a square or backward pass-he's far from attack minded IMO.
mortonjag 2007-08-26 15:40:23
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 26 2007, 03:22 PM) [snapback]323005[/snapback]
Who?
There's a reason.

Spit it out Jonaton-you think Coakley's crap.

I've yet to see him do much that's inspired me, but it's pretty unfair to rubbish the kid IMO.

Furthermore, even I believe JM must have seen SOMETHING in him, or was it indeed just a Shoogly 'inspiration'?
mortonjag 2007-08-26 15:43:19
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 26 2007, 03:38 PM) [snapback]323035[/snapback]
No of goals scored last season by Deano: 1
Which was from 6 yards out.
Keenan hasn't scored from the edge of the box, has he? unsure.gif
That would automatically make McLuaghlin's hit rate better. huh.gif

I believe that if you compare the number of full games played by each player over the last two seasons, you'll change your mind!

(Goals scored per number of playing hours)
mortonjag 2007-08-26 15:50:00 [quote name='vikingTON' post='323037' date='Aug 26 2007, 03:39 PM']Because McInally is an imbecile.
The joy of a rhetorical question. rolleyes.gif


im·be·cile (mb-sl, -sl)
n.
1. A stupid or silly person; a dolt.
2. A person whose mental acumen is well below par.
3. A person of moderate to severe mental retardation having a mental age of from three to seven years and generally being capable of some degree of communication and performance of simple tasks under supervision. The term belongs to a classification system no longer in use and is now considered offensive.

Dearie me-did Mr Rae know this?
mortonjag 2007-08-26 16:21:07
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 26 2007, 03:22 PM) [snapback]323004[/snapback]
A wee chihuahua to match the height of our team. laugh.gif

is that more oxymoron, or is it another LITOSIS? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-26 16:30:49
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 26 2007, 03:53 PM) [snapback]323057[/snapback]
Strangely, an idiot is more stupid then an imbecile, but it doesn't sound half as bad.
To idiots. wink.gif

What about a stupid idiot, or is that an oxyMORON?
mortonjag 2007-08-26 16:36:00
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Aug 26 2007, 04:21 PM) [snapback]323086[/snapback]
Yes, then McLaughlin is a better player than van Nistelrooy(sp?)

I'm fascinated by your signature-to whom is the statement directed, and to which particular orifice are you referring?
mortonjag 2007-08-27 04:21:22 moved
mortonjag 2007-08-27 06:10:28 post not found
mortonjag 2007-08-27 06:30:14
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 26 2007, 04:45 PM) [snapback]323110[/snapback]
Robinson and McGowan have both improved our team, that's why.

That's right Chocolate boy-wee Gowsa would single handedly have snatched victory from the jaws of defeat on Saturday.

There's far more wrong at Scapa than will be sorted by short term loans of infants.

As jpmil says, we should be developing our own talent IF we have any ambition at all.

I'd love a revamped statement from our hallowed Chairman.

Where are we now going?

What is our current plan (if there is one)?

Does he believe it's the fans who are still letting HIM down?

Does he REALLY imagine his gate receipts will increase with showings like Saturday's?

If it's NOT to be a quick bash at the SPL with the gamble on financial stability in the shorter term-something I believe he may be able to afford, it's got to be PROPER consolidation-not bloody excuse after excuse.

Get rid of the dead wood (JM and Clark first), go part time, develop a youth policy, hire an experienced manager from a lower division-ANYTHING auld yin-just TELL us-we can take it, and you'll get far more respect than you got for that Gowsa joke.
mortonjag 2007-08-27 06:36:53
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Aug 26 2007, 04:37 PM) [snapback]323106[/snapback]
I'll leave that subject open for discussion, sir laugh.gif

Then I take it you WERE talking to a lady!
mortonjag 2007-08-27 06:50:11
QUOTE(edd @ Aug 26 2007, 07:09 PM) [snapback]323175[/snapback]
are you bankiebob1899 on p&b?

laugh.gifi never heard any racism either, the closest thing i heard was someone calling offiong a munter, which nearly sounded like monkey, except it's completely different (and he is an ugly b*****d).

seeing as so many people never heard any racism it's obviously just a couple of eejits out to spoil the day. forget about it - confront them at the game (like toby at raith last season - very impressive) or grass them up to the stewards (which is what i'd probably do rather than deal with it myself).

Obviously you're not attracted to black men edd-I actually found him quite fetching, and my monkey wants him signed before Friday.
mortonjag 2007-08-27 06:58:39 I found a crumpled up note in the mens' toilet

It read-

I hearbi herebuy

I wysh two

Ahm gonnae rezine

Haven't a clue what that was all about.
mortonjag 2007-08-27 07:00:44
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Aug 26 2007, 08:52 PM) [snapback]323275[/snapback]
I spoke to his uncle, who says (obviously quited biased) that he is a very good player who will make it in the big time. What he also said though, was that his younger brother (14 yrs old) is currently playing for Rangers' u-17s and is a much better prospect. This, incidentally, was how I heard about that transfer before it happened. I love insight smile.gif

The ecumenical brothers-good for them!
mortonjag 2007-08-27 07:02:01
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 26 2007, 09:09 PM) [snapback]323292[/snapback]
I am not sure that this is'nt just Clyde/Imrie tactics to talk up the fee/wages.

Whatever gave you that notion you myopic old cynic? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-27 07:11:29 cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Aug 26 2007, 07:56 PM) [snapback]323218[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->We'd be daft to sell Jim (JM probably will then) he is one of the few in the squad with the potential to play at the next level.

We certainly DON'T need the money,Dougie has 80k burning a hole in his pocket
And talks through the hole between his glutei maximi.
mortonjag 2007-08-27 09:15:17
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 26 2007, 09:49 PM) [snapback]323324[/snapback]
But this same argument was being trotted out last season too, McInally is tactically inept, players out of position ect ect blah blah, He won the league with his ineptitude.

Now were getting the same s*** this season after only 4 games!!! mad.gif

So, how many games have we lost in the last year ?

We won the league in spite of his ineptitude. The stats don't show the ridiculous way in which everything was MADE difficult needlessly. We won very few games with any flair or conviction, and dropped silly points along the way.

We looked absolute fools in the late away matches at Stirling and Kirkcaldy, and if the part time Binos hadn't faltered we'd have been in the play offs AGAIN.

Have you forgotten that it's taken this man 2.5 seasons to get us from division two to division one-despite vastly superior resources to all except Gretna?

As I say, IF he's got the players' backing, there's no point in him walking unless Shoogly can bring in a new man AND, say, three experienced guys by Friday.

That's unlikely, so he's got 'til Christmas to get this sorted. I predict he'll go.
mortonjag 2007-08-27 09:21:47
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 26 2007, 03:30 PM) [snapback]323019[/snapback]
There's an advert on his usual page, I think he'll be back to two pages next week.

Great Deego-one page doesn't clean all my s***e away.
mortonjag 2007-08-27 09:27:48
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 27 2007, 09:18 AM) [snapback]323413[/snapback]
I thought Offiong deliberately tripped himself over Jay's leg - There did not appear to be any attempt to trip him deliberately. We were right opposite the incident. I'd call it cheating.

His headed goal was very well taken though - rarely seen such a strong header and spot on accurate.

Stand side I presume.

We got a more angled view-Jay definitely went for the ball-albeit at a stretch-and we thought he just turned it (out the way) as Offiong went over his outstretched leg.

You'd really need a video replay from behind the goal line to be sure-I also saw hand contact made as the latter initially controlled a waist high ball.

Everybody's saying the Ref was crap-I thought he wasn't our worst by any means, and he didn't shirk booking that lot for very cynical play at times.
mortonjag 2007-08-27 09:35:08
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Aug 27 2007, 09:32 AM) [snapback]323418[/snapback]
55 posts based on one line in the NOTW

I'm not quite old enough to remember

BRITAIN AT WAR,

but if PC's had been around then they'd all have bloody melted!!

Erm-what was your point?
mortonjag 2007-08-27 10:19:45
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 27 2007, 09:36 AM) [snapback]323421[/snapback]
To be fair that's a point that can be aimed at EVERY championship winning side

Not every one for sure-mind you I'm a Morton supporter, so I can only recall the Halcyon days of Hal Stewart, when you went to Scapa EXPECTING to score at least three, and weren't disappointed too often!
mortonjag 2007-08-27 10:23:20
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 27 2007, 09:55 AM) [snapback]323427[/snapback]
Think that's a bit harsh Mr Monkey. The guy (I am assuming that vikingTON is a male, if not apologies) has made some pertinant points there. None of us proclaim to be experts on football, just passionate supporters, but he is entitled to his opinion.


...and anybody who thinks the majority of those radio and TV wallahs are EXPERTS is plainly deluded.

They TALK a good game, so 75% believe them-just as 75% last season had total confidence in JM's ability.

Now if only they'd listened to the REAL expert! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-27 10:28:41
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Aug 27 2007, 09:05 AM) [snapback]323408[/snapback]
i like the georgic; it's probably my favourite bar in that neck of the woods. unfortunately my friends prefer stefan king's abominations to proper bars. why are these places filled with shaven-headed men in blue jeans and white shirts? it's like a uniform.



'Stefan King' my arse, you clot-you've just been turfed back out of Gartnavel Royal.
mortonjag 2007-08-27 10:34:48
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 27 2007, 10:18 AM) [snapback]323428[/snapback]
Completely agree with that. You can plot the decline of the UK to the rise of the shellsuit. Make youngers wear tweed three-piece numbers rather than constantly be dressed in their PE kit. If one dresses in a slovenly manner this will inevitably lead to a decline in manners and behaviour.

On a more serious note it's difficult to put the Genie back in the bottle but blaming the PC brigade is a bit far off the mark. Since 1979 we've been governed, by the UK's standards anyway, in a right-wing fashion by both Conservative and Labour parties. PC in itself is not a bad thing unless you think 'Love Thy Neighbour' and Jim Davidson's 'hilarious' West Indian character Chalky are funny.

Solutions? ASBOs and 'acceptable behaviour' contracts are pathetic really. I would advocate a form of 'national service' between the ages of 18 and 20 but not only army. I see no sense in giving kids with an unhealthy interest in weapons guns. The role of children in the UK has changed so much and many now believe they are the centre of the universe. Being made to perform 2 years 'service' would make them realise that there are other people out there.

I would also reform prisons to have convicted prisoners working and not locked up 23 hours a day. [b]Make them grow their own food for example[/b]. No-one should be available for parole until they have attended and passed education exams. Allowing badly educated young men to leave prison in the same intellectual state they were institutionalized is itself criminal.

Poppy fields at the Bar-L.
mortonjag 2007-08-27 10:43:55
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Aug 27 2007, 10:35 AM) [snapback]323435[/snapback]
Funnily enough I have my eye on this at the mo. Oh for a return to the days of Bertie Wooster wink.gif

Like you say blaming 'the PC brigade' is missing the point by some distance.

The 'PC brigade' is a term as elastic as you want it to be. In my opinion this all started with the introduction of the 'Social Worker', who to justify HER existence had to propagate the concept of the poor wee deprived souls not 'knowing any better', and 'being deprived', when in fact she knew damned well many were just evil little c*nts.

OK, I'm making a broad generalisation, but MY perception of PC is that it has MUCH to answer for. I don't believe the situation is beyond redemption, but because of various vested interests, 'PC' will now inevitably triumph over common sense.

As I said-flog the little swine-little swine hate being flogged, and in my experience most of that lot are cowards at heart.
mortonjag 2007-08-27 10:47:07
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 27 2007, 10:35 AM) [snapback]323434[/snapback]
I had a decent view of it in the Cowshed and I thought it was a stonewaller as did most people around me.

Which just goes to suggest that Gordon Smith's not entirely stark ravin' bonkers. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-27 10:57:53
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 26 2007, 07:21 PM) [snapback]323185[/snapback]
The faint of heart may wish to avert their gaze at this point: Lord Haw Haw in initimate communion with Mini Ha Ha.

The trumpet of the Lord soundeth as it choketh on its Fudgy Wudgy.
mortonjag 2007-08-28 06:25:22
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 27 2007, 01:27 PM) [snapback]323505[/snapback]
Thought I saw Harding getting his ankle strapped up at half time in the dugout/tunnel area. Mind you someone else has posted thay Walker was getting the same treatment. Could have been him. Maybe my eyesight is getting as bad as my....thingy....you know....the whatyoumacallit.....oh aye memory. laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2007-08-28 06:32:45
QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 27 2007, 01:17 AM) [snapback]323385[/snapback]
In an away match yesterday's team would have been perfect but the onus is on us to attack hamilton at cappielow, that was turgid . I would rather lose 4-3 every week than have to suffer a game like Saturday's again.

Trouble is we'd be relegated Stuart, but at least we could have some entertainment, unlike last year! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-28 06:40:43
QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 27 2007, 05:04 PM) [snapback]323617[/snapback]
Unfortunately I was away at a wedding after the game and am just home now so haven't been able to read all of this so I'm going into it a wee bit blind.

Scott, believe it or not, you actually remind me of myself about five years ago when I couldn't see beyond Morton and refused to criticise them for anything.
Obviously in the last two years I've become disillusioned with certain goings on and almost gone full circle.

Don't know too much about this incident, but someone mentioned it to me in the Norseman after the game and I had a bit of a chuckle to myself. Not really interested in what was said but by the sounds of it it was handbags. What really gets on my goat though is this clown Lofty. Thinking of calling the club to get this guy banned from Cappielow? HOW f***ING DARE YOU!!! From what I see there's been no criminal offence been committed, merely a difference of opinion leading to an argument and at worst a scuffle?

There's far too many folk on this board telling others they're not welcome at Cappielow. Nobody has more right than anyone else to be in that ground on a Saturday and the sooner these tossers realise this the better.

In my case that was 40 years ago Toby, but I guess it happens to us all. Some can see the big picture earlier than others.
mortonjag 2007-08-28 06:44:47 Russell is a good striker.
mortonjag 2007-08-28 07:23:44
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 27 2007, 02:44 PM) [snapback]323526[/snapback]
The difference is that there's never been widespread discrimination against fat people, gingers or old people, so they don't carry the same connotations.

May I be permitted to say that I disagree?
mortonjag 2007-08-28 07:28:51
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 28 2007, 01:26 AM) [snapback]324087[/snapback]
Club Mole
c/o Greenock Morton Football Club
Cappielow Park
Sinclair Street
Greenock

May I suggest Recorded Delivery?
mortonjag 2007-08-28 07:33:47
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Aug 27 2007, 05:21 PM) [snapback]323630[/snapback]
Theres a building at the end of the battery park where you will be given treatment prior to being flushed into the Clyde

I'm not exactly sure what that's supposed to mean.

Was it another of those wee boy compliments for Uncle Mortonjag?
mortonjag 2007-08-28 07:40:14
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 27 2007, 06:16 PM) [snapback]323647[/snapback]
I heard this rumour a few weeks ago and posted on the Old Firm section of P & B and the Rangers fans all think Lennon is one of Scotland's finest young striking prospects. If he can score 15-20 goals a season I don't give a tuppeny toss whether its from playing as an out and out striker or lying just behind, in a similar role to McGowan last season.

Me, I would bite Rangers hand off for a season from this kid and I agree with Greacen2000 that anyone who does'nt see it that way must be crazy!

Too many loans, too many weans, and too many midfielders myopic one.

Incidentally, the truth on that INSPIRED SIGNING of Robinson-he was offered by Rangers to EVERY first Division club. Guess why we were the only interested party!!!

And in Saturday's programme interview, McAnespie explains how HE sold himself to Morton.

Seems like our closed season signings were more 'marriages of convenience'.


THREE DAYS LEFT JM!
mortonjag 2007-08-28 08:03:59 Shoogly has stated categorically that for the time being the Gowsa deal is off.

I think Big B is basing his confident prediction on that!

Shoogly says many things.
mortonjag 2007-08-28 08:15:45
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 28 2007, 07:58 AM) [snapback]324104[/snapback]
I'm not sure about any of that. Is it not all about what causes offence? An old fat ginger b*****d has feelings too.

Oh I'm not so sure DE-I think Neil Kinnock must be pretty anaesthetic by now.
mortonjag 2007-08-28 08:18:05 Video record all bodies going through a suspect non concession gate from secret vantage point.

If things don't tie-prosecute and publicise.

End of problem!
mortonjag 2007-08-28 10:01:45
QUOTE(giz @ Aug 28 2007, 09:08 AM) [snapback]324120[/snapback]
I hope this is true.I know paul is not the finished article BUT he is an exciting player and after watching the games against Stirling & Hamilton we do need to add some flair.

Agreed, but at WHAT price-we could still get three decent players for what was offered.
mortonjag 2007-08-28 10:09:09 I reckon it's quite simple-we have segregation-Morton fans go with other Morton fans-folk identifying themselves as OF fans-yip thanks for your cash and join the away support.
mortonjag 2007-08-28 10:28:03
QUOTE(rex manning @ Aug 28 2007, 09:55 AM) [snapback]324138[/snapback]
big hairy bawz, if Deano can play there then Shields can play there. He was our best player on Saturday til he got shoved back in defence.

Wee Shields can play well at right back-we've a glut of midfielders and no right back-it makes sense to let him establish that position as his own-AND play Spoonsy alongside Sanny.
mortonjag 2007-08-28 10:42:15
QUOTE(rex manning @ Aug 28 2007, 10:35 AM) [snapback]324152[/snapback]
Are you saying you think Peters a striker?

Are you takin' the piss?

He's the best striker at the club and you know it-even JM says so and plays him at right back which proves JM's a clown.
mortonjag 2007-08-28 10:51:45
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 27 2007, 08:28 PM) [snapback]323818[/snapback]
The existence of Frenchmen made me despise everything about the French.

(I'm just saying this for the sake of a joke; I actually love France and, contrary to the stories of hostility towards visitors, I can personally attest that many French are generous and welcoming to a fault when it comes to strangers. The country has its problems, sure - moreso than the UK, even - but I still love it.)

Learning another language broadens your horizons, makes you more attractive to women and, in my experience at least, helps your lateral thinking abilities.

Of course I say all this but I struggle to order a beer anywhere south of Dover.

I can confirm this as a multilingual polymath.

My greatest conquests have been achieved since I mastered Urdu.
mortonjag 2007-08-28 10:57:37 MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS
mortonjag 2007-08-28 11:01:39 I'm afraid it's just silly rules again!

BTW is a liqueur chocolate a chocolate or a drink?
mortonjag 2007-08-28 11:07:02 I get pissed off by people all the time-people disgust me-ignorant people, lazy people, discourteous people, greedy people, evil people-people in general are extremely irritating.

Now if I were in charge! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-28 11:12:26
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 28 2007, 10:16 AM) [snapback]324148[/snapback]
These are genuine clips from letters sent to the Council Housing
Department...............

1. My bush is really overgrown round the front and my back passage has
fungus growing on it.

2. He's got this huge tool that vibrates the whole house and I just
can't take it anymore.

3. It's the dog mess that I find hard to swallow.

4. I want some repairs done to my cooker as it has backfired and burnt
my kn** off.

5. I wish to complain that my father hurt his ankle very badly when he
put his foot in the hole in his back passage.

6. And their 18 year old son is continually banging his balls against
my fence.

7. I wish to report that the tiles are missing from the outside toilet
roof. I think it was bad wind the other night that blew them off.

8. My lavatory seat is cracked, where do I stand?

9. Will you please send someone to mend the garden path. My wife
tripped and fell on it yesterday and now she is pregnant.

10. I request permission to remove my drawers in the kitchen.

11. 50% of the wall are damp, 50% have crumbling plaster and 50 % are
just plain filthy.

12. I am still having problems with smoke in my drawers.

13. The toilet is blocked and we cannot bath the children until it is
cleared.

14. Will you please send a man to look at my water, it is a funny
colour and not fit to drink.

15. Our lavatory seat is broken in half and is now in three pieces.

16. The man next door has a large erection in the back garden, which is
unsightly and dangerous.

17. Our kitchen floor is damp. We have two children and would like a
third so please send someone round to do something about it.

18. I am a single woman living in a downstairs flat and would you
please do something about the noise made by the man on top of me every
night.

19. Please send a man with the right tool to finish the job and satisfy
my wife.

20. I have had the Clerk of Works down on the floor six times but still
I have no satisfaction.

21. This is to let you know that our lavatory seat is broke and we can't
get BBC2.

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All very funny but for downright believability I love number 10!

A chap once exclaimed to me 'I'm here aboot ma heid-it's been on an aff fur weeks'.
mortonjag 2007-08-28 11:19:28
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Aug 28 2007, 10:56 AM) [snapback]324162[/snapback]
Totally agree. Plus - he was scoring freely during the pre season (albeit for Cellic Reserves) I can understand the concerns about us paying over the odds but I just want to see him back in the real hoops ASAP.

Edit to respond to MJ Would Gowser signing exclude us from strengthening other areas.? I I don't think so,

If you know more than me, spit it out. Rae was positively BOASTING about what he offered to nasty, nasty Cellic, and then said the deal's off for the meantime.

Tell me just how much cash IS burning that hole in his pocket, and I'll answer your question!
mortonjag 2007-08-28 11:26:23 Manager Jim McInally said "I thought the best they were getting was nothing each until they scored the first goal. We've all got to stand up and be counted and say that we were beaten by a team that are streetwise in this League - we just didn't do enough. We gave everything, but that just wasn't enough.
mortonjag 2007-08-28 11:44:47
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Aug 28 2007, 11:37 AM) [snapback]324188[/snapback]
The season is suddenly looking much longer sad.gif

Surely not!

If he's FINALLY accepted that everything he's got isn't enough, maybe he'll stop messing about with wee boys and SIGN some streetwise players.

THREE DAYS LEFT JIM - P45 CAN STILL BE AVOIDED
mortonjag 2007-08-28 11:48:26
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Aug 28 2007, 11:29 AM) [snapback]324184[/snapback]
I have no idea how much Dougy is prepared to spend but hope that if we need to strengthen further, he would be able support it. I don't believe he is putting all his free range in the one basket.

Three days left Shoogly-those faithful posters who've stuck by you deserve a cash splash-what's the problem-you're obviously LOADED? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-28 11:51:34
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 28 2007, 11:23 AM) [snapback]324182[/snapback]
It's a chocolate.

It's not ALL chocolate.
mortonjag 2007-08-28 11:58:13
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 28 2007, 11:47 AM) [snapback]324197[/snapback]
Got this emailed to me. Wondered if someone went to far or if he got what he deserved.
Please discuss.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6966493.stm

Surely that didn't happen in Offally Christian Ireland? unsure.gif

Jesus in Dublin's knickers will be in terminal torsion.

Well done for some common sense, but a bullet would have been cheaper.

That lot could have filled a couple of potholes, and made a cushy duvet, for some old soul.
mortonjag 2007-08-28 12:12:48
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Aug 28 2007, 12:01 PM) [snapback]324205[/snapback]
He's only saying that we were beaten by the better side on the day. These things happen, get over it.

Do you totally miss my point Chris-I know what HE meant, but read what he actually said.

He can't pretend we had four or five star players missing-he admitted we were beaten by a more streetwise side, despite GIVING EVERYTHING.

We flopped at Dundee, made things difficult for ourselves against Clyde, and threw away the Stirling match. At Dunfermline the lads were magnificent and it came off for Spoonsy, but the Pars were well off form. Against an organised Hamilton 11 we eventually looked pretty ineffectual.

The current squad needs two or three additions between now and Friday. Rae and the puppet have had all summer. Reality beckons for the Mummy in the dugout.

There is STILL TIME.

Will his mentor save his bacon?
mortonjag 2007-08-28 13:13:08
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 28 2007, 01:06 PM) [snapback]324235[/snapback]
While I am obviously keen to get a striker in asap I think Dougie deserves credit for the cash he has spent already. While you could argue about the merits of where it was spent, you couldn't argue about his commitment.

I think it is really unfair on people spouting get your cheque book
out etc just because he is in the position to spend his own money. We are a business after all.

Aberdeen fans were the same with Milne and huns with Murray.

As for McGowan, will believe it when I see it. However cellic are in for a very busy week in the transfer market with the stories floating about the press so perhaps they will welcome a few grand into the coffers, as his price will never hold into the next window.


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You are pure dead brilliant at times son-I take it you sweep the floor at Golden Casket.

Rae's the one who was flashing 85k + 25% 'on fees' at Celtic.

All we're asking is for the same money to be spent wisely [center][/center]


AND QUICKLY
mortonjag 2007-08-28 13:18:32
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Aug 28 2007, 12:51 PM) [snapback]324231[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDMind you Jimbo's always been one of Shoogly's pets-I NEVER thought he'd be allowed to go.
mortonjag 2007-08-28 13:24:07
QUOTE(dumbarTON @ Aug 28 2007, 12:23 PM) [snapback]324214[/snapback]
people that go into cardiac arrest when i am going for my lunch dry.gif

They'll be OK during Ramadan mind!
mortonjag 2007-08-29 04:54:19
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 28 2007, 01:17 PM) [snapback]324244[/snapback]
Sadly, the facts do matter. It's a results driven busniess and whatever you think of the team on the park I'm quite sure we'd have settled for our current position at the start of the season.

I have a lot of sympathy for how slow things are on the transfer front and I don't think Jim is to blame for this. Likewise, two big injuries to ever presents McGregor and McLaughlin are a big blow and the main reason for a makeshift midfield.

Shields, McAnespie and Robinson all look good moves at this stage and Jim has to get credit for that.

People are far too keen to panic after one or two results don't go our way but expectations are so important to the perception of how we are donig and on the whole we're doing pretty well.

I expected Mr Rae to be a truthful gentleman and based my perception of the future on that.
mortonjag 2007-08-29 04:58:50
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 28 2007, 07:30 PM) [snapback]324432[/snapback]
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Think that makes more sense. smile.gif

Maxwell House's outrageous post (of COURSE I voted 'NO') laugh.gif is more stimulating than any of yours I've ever had the misfortune to read. sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-29 04:59:50
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Aug 28 2007, 07:45 PM) [snapback]324444[/snapback]
*shrugs*

Depends on how much noodle trivia you know.

Mr Momofuku Ando, the Japanese inventor of the instant noodle snack, died in January 2007 aged 96 laugh.gif laugh.gif

Black armbands at the ready !!

Our thoughts are with the family.
mortonjag 2007-08-29 05:39:10
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 28 2007, 03:20 PM) [snapback]324311[/snapback]
Despite making last season far more challenging than it actually was, and despite my reservations on his performances in the previous seasons, I was happy to give Jim the chance to lead us in the first division. However, the lack of signings, and all the evidence from the St. Mirren game on have just proved that the guy is well out of his depth. However, it's too late in the day now, so we should give him until the start of December to try and prove the tiniest sign of competence. After that, we can punt him, get a new manager in with a month to evaluate the squad and try and rectify some of McInally and Rae's failures in the summer window.

That said, I'm totally scunnered with the way we've been performing for quite a while now, it's mind-numbingly boring, something that a team containing the flair of McAlister, Stevenson, Templeman and co shouldn't really be accused of.

Pretty much my view EM-let's face it, it's unlikely much will change before Friday-perhaps one 'face saver' for Shoogly, but it won't be enough now IMO.
mortonjag 2007-08-29 05:40:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 28 2007, 03:30 PM) [snapback]324316[/snapback]
surely one slipper would suffice ???

I can state unequivocally that I have NEVER ejaculated into a single tartan slipper.
mortonjag 2007-08-29 05:43:55
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 28 2007, 05:14 PM) [snapback]324374[/snapback]
Yip. You could loan me £100 if your so inclined, please laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2007-08-29 05:48:24
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Aug 28 2007, 05:23 PM) [snapback]324378[/snapback]
So you want us to play with two inside lefts?

basic formations: too simple for some though!

What seems too COMPLICATED for some is that 'official' positions don't need to hamper inventive play.

What has been painfully obvious to me for ages is that the boys are given fixed roles by JM, and allowed little freedom of expression.

If Andy Ritchie had been in this squad, he'd have sat the season out on the bench. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-29 05:53:54 The East Fife squad and Manager.
mortonjag 2007-08-29 06:02:35
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Aug 28 2007, 10:09 PM) [snapback]324686[/snapback]
Sounds like we're getting into FISTING territory here.....time to call it a day me thinks !! laugh.gif laugh.gif

Are you suggesting our Manager is a POUFFE?
mortonjag 2007-08-29 06:07:31
QUOTE(Marshall2oo6 @ Aug 28 2007, 08:27 PM) [snapback]324507[/snapback]
Don't get me wrong I like Dougie, the guy is a die-hard Morton fan and I'm extremely grateful for everthing he has done for the club because he has been excellent but he has to let the manager deal with the team side of things and let him pick his own transfer targets, etc. There will come a point where if this continues the s*** will hit the fan, and hopefully its not to late but my confidence is draining. There are a few days left in the transfer window and we are still not anywhere near to signing players? The only target looks to be Imrie (who I don't think will make much of a difference on the scoring front but he will give us another option in least in the striking department), apart from that Jim and Dougie seem to be sitting in that board room with their fingers up each others arses, they may aswell be doing that because theres not much else going to happen.

I USED to believe that, but I've reached the conclusion that Shoogly's ego comes before everything.

A 'die hard Morton fan' would SURELY respect the views of his paying public, and engage in meaningful debate.

Mr Rae's behaviour often reminds me of that of a spoiled brat, jealously guarding his toys.
mortonjag 2007-08-29 06:14:12
QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 28 2007, 11:33 PM) [snapback]324753[/snapback]
Was it not 1995 we sold McInnes to Rangers in?

No, it was a big hamper with '1995' painted on it wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-29 06:19:35
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 29 2007, 01:18 AM) [snapback]324773[/snapback]
Its a tricky one this .... think I'll have to sleep on it .
I hope you are not DDFR in disguise trying to test the RAG for opinions of support for the manager.

Don't be silly Chris, Mr Rae has plenty of folk doing exactly that every day-MILLIONS even-there again maybe he really DOESN'T have a clue about the fans' opinions! sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-29 06:23:56
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Aug 28 2007, 09:58 PM) [snapback]324664[/snapback]
Next poll coming up: Do you want Morton to lose so JM can get bagged? dry.gif

Anybody who wants Morton to lose-EVER- shouldn't be posting on the forum.

I'm sure that even the apparently intellectually challenged Mr McInally appreciates that another 'Hamilton' performance will do him few favours with Puppet Control.
mortonjag 2007-08-29 06:33:23
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 28 2007, 05:42 PM) [snapback]324386[/snapback]
I was about to dispute this and then realised that it's a grey area.

For example, my favourite sweet - Fry's Turkish Delight - has less milk chocolate in it than it does the actual turkish delight component. Just because it's chocolate coated doesn't make it "a chocolate."

However, I reckon since the clue is in the name - it's simply a Turkish bar as opposed to a Chocolate Turkish or whatever - a "chocolate liqueur" is a chocolate and not a drink.

Eureka-Nach0 and Jag concur-ye cannae beat Fry's Turkish delight-I can eat four on the trot and only feel vague guilt! wink.gif

I disagree strongly though on your definition of a 'Turkish bar' which utterly demeans this confection, known for its fullness of 'Eastern Promise'.

You make it sound like a Fudgy Wudgy! wink.gif





mortonjag 2007-08-29 06:36:58
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 28 2007, 09:59 PM) [snapback]324665[/snapback]
1. (Come Up And See Me) Make Me Smile - Steve Harley and c***ney Rebel

2. A Forest - The Cure

3. Atmosphere - Joy Division

4. Tiny Children - The Teardop Explodes

5. The American - Simple Minds

6. The Reel In The Flickering Light - Christy Moore

7. Virginia Plain - Roxy Music

8. It's The End Of The World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine) - REM

9. Temptation - New Order

10= 74-75 - The Connells
10= Mandinka - Sinead O'Connor

These would be definites - although I could just as hapilly added Chelsea Girl and Glittering Prize from Simple Minds, My Old Friend The Blues or Sunshine On Leith from The Proclaimers, Scorn Not His Simplicity from Luke Kelly, several Smiths songs, and a couple of early U2 classics such as Gloria or I Will Follow - not to mention three or four Del Amitri perennials like Always The Last To Know or LLoyd Cole's Perfect Skin, or any myriad of Saw Doctors and Christy Moore songs. Oh, and The Pogues !

And a million more - but these ten (well eleven) would be shoe ins ......

TonInDublin

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I was SO sure the 23rd Psalm would be in there somewhere.
mortonjag 2007-08-29 06:46:09
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 28 2007, 11:23 PM) [snapback]324748[/snapback]
Guys, have any of you done any Cisco certifications, in particular the CCNA?

Reason I ask is that I am pretty close to completing my MCSE (well, a few months away hopefully)and planned to add the CCNA to that but I'm not sure if it's worth spending another year or two studying for it when they may be better spent studying an engineering qualification and heading offshore to work or becoming a motorcycle mechanic for Yamaha's factory Moto GP team. And yes, I realise it's unlikely I'd need both MCSE and CCNA qualifications in one job but I like hedging my bets.

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I'm currently working hard at getting...


MICOC in BUM (Modified intermediary certificate of competence in British urinary medicine).



mortonjag 2007-08-29 06:51:12
QUOTE(Bryan @ Aug 28 2007, 09:57 PM) [snapback]324662[/snapback]
you sit near me and nach we hear you tongue.gif

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Ha Bryan, but I now possess a SEASON ticket, and am much closer to the more delectable Street Walker I suspect! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-29 06:58:32
QUOTE(Marshall2oo6 @ Aug 28 2007, 07:52 PM) [snapback]324453[/snapback]
MoronJag FULL STOP

People who state the obvious.
mortonjag 2007-08-29 07:04:52
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 28 2007, 10:46 PM) [snapback]324726[/snapback]
Those who try to "give" you a mobile phone , are all called Stephen or David didn't think they'd be popular names in India .
I get so many of these annoying calls I now try to keep them on the line as long as possible or I make up a story .
Told one the other day I better not accept the offer as I had recently been released from prison for defrauding phone companies by getting free phones and then selling them .

I don't use those much as I'm quite good at sorting that lot out, but

For guys- talk over them, insisting you have a great second hand car for sale-don't take 'No' for an answer-they go.

For lassies- say you we're just enjoying your first shag in three months, and answered the 'phone to listen to 'THIS'. Works a treat.
mortonjag 2007-08-29 07:06:52
CHICK SKUNK
mortonjag 2007-08-29 07:11:25
ALL POLITICIANS ARE SCUM
mortonjag 2007-08-29 07:15:36
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Aug 29 2007, 07:03 AM) [snapback]324806[/snapback]
As long as he doesn't leave us in the proverbial by coining the old "It's my ball and I'm taking it home with me".........

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Fudgy Wudgy sales would plummet throughout Inverclyde, and Windrush would end up like 'The Ponderosa'.

Most of all he'd be scared to be made even bigger laughing stock by the arrival of a wealthier latter day Saviour. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-29 07:21:27
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Aug 29 2007, 07:07 AM) [snapback]324810[/snapback]
Chris Millar and effective in the same post ? Was there a blue moon last night ? wink.gif

A wee bit harsh IMO Gash.

Chris has played many an effective match in the past, but recently seems to have 'lost the way'.

I suspect he's suffering from the JM variety of ME-Midfield Exhaustion.

We used to call it 'Chronic fatigue syndrome', though that's probably more applicable to the fans.
mortonjag 2007-08-29 07:24:04
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Aug 29 2007, 07:09 AM) [snapback]324811[/snapback]
Ah, so your not denying the possibility that you may have done so into a nice pair of pink fluffy ones ? Or perhaps a nice comfortable pair of boating shoes.......

Your secrets are all coming out MJ. wink.gif

Having just spotted my 'typo' I stand by my assertion.

As for ejaculation into boating shoes-that was years ago.
mortonjag 2007-08-29 07:28:41 I've just heard that Fergie described Holy Gunner Skolshire as the best finisher at the club.



SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A FINISHER
mortonjag 2007-08-29 09:04:00
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Aug 29 2007, 07:30 AM) [snapback]324817[/snapback]
The first sounds like the 4 horsemen of the Apocolypse are due to arrive at any moment. Bad time to put the washing out I think laugh.gif

The second, well, not sure that will ever happen. Think someone will have to wrestle the keys from his hands when rigamortise sets in....... laugh.gif laugh.gif

Are you afraid he catches it from the manager?
mortonjag 2007-08-29 09:06:55
QUOTE(div @ Aug 28 2007, 11:07 PM) [snapback]324736[/snapback]
Indeed - we did lose tonight to a third division team. I doubt we will be the last team to lose to lower league opposition in a cup competition tongue.gif

I've been watchign St.Mirren for 30 years now - nights like tonight are just part and parcel of following a provincial football club are they not.

Onwards and upwards smile.gif

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mortonjag 2007-08-29 09:22:01
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 29 2007, 08:51 AM) [snapback]324833[/snapback]
Half Hun, half skunk I think. Despite that, I like him.

Him or his on air persona?
mortonjag 2007-08-29 09:35:21
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 29 2007, 09:27 AM) [snapback]324847[/snapback]
I don't disagree that the money could be better spent but - no better than Bobby Linn??? Sorry, thats just wrong. McGowan is miles better than Linn.

We haven't seen Bobby Linn play a decent game yet-that doesn't mean he's completely useless. He was knocking them in at Peterhead, and I believe he'll come good again.

McGowan was not getting a regular game with Celtic reserves, and blew hot and cold in the Second Division-a better all round footballer than Linn-no question about that, but not a FINISHER! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-29 09:38:51
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 28 2007, 11:09 PM) [snapback]324739[/snapback]
Peter Weatherson. Nothing personal you'll understand of course. biggrin.gif

It's a small world!
mortonjag 2007-08-29 09:39:39 JIm McInally
mortonjag 2007-08-29 09:41:55
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Aug 29 2007, 09:37 AM) [snapback]324852[/snapback]
I met BigB yesterday and while I hope he is right until I see it confirmed on GMFC (aye ok thats unlikely to have breaking news) or a newspaper I am not believing anything- no matter how accurate the source is. I also hope no one from the club says "we are actively pursuing..." had that all close season and so far it has amounted to diddly squat.

Well, let's face it LAS, a snail can actively pursue a cheetah.
mortonjag 2007-08-29 10:10:50
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 29 2007, 09:53 AM) [snapback]324857[/snapback]
Can't argue with that, he's got a superb shot on him both from range and inside the box.

Trust you to spoil it just because I like Turkish delight! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-29 10:13:38 Tim Henman's another.
mortonjag 2007-08-29 10:48:28
QUOTE(GreatKingRat @ Aug 29 2007, 10:39 AM) [snapback]324869[/snapback]
It's nice in moderation. You'll get a sore belly otherwise.

You're getting mixed up with the belly dancers on the advert-mind you Fry's are wickedly cruel with the size of those chocolate enrobed 'eastern' delicacies-you need at least four, and six is about right.

My Uncle brought back 'Real' Turkish Delight from Cyprus when we were kids--

truly mingin, it was!
mortonjag 2007-08-29 10:55:08
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 28 2007, 04:00 PM) [snapback]324326[/snapback]
Indian Call Centres AAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH mad.gif mad.gif

I know-I always preferred the cowboys.
mortonjag 2007-08-29 10:57:22
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 29 2007, 10:51 AM) [snapback]324877[/snapback]
I agree, I like the processed Fry's stuff, none of your authentic rubbish.

Incidentally, I also think Jamie Stevenson is a great finisher.

Aye it normally only takes 75 minutes!
mortonjag 2007-08-29 11:06:07
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 29 2007, 11:01 AM) [snapback]324882[/snapback]
You like a good gunslinger?

YIP
mortonjag 2007-08-29 11:22:33
QUOTE(NorgieTon @ Aug 29 2007, 11:15 AM) [snapback]324888[/snapback]
It would seem that its going to take more than one signing, but thats always been the case !! what is it that is stopping targeted players coming to the ton.
We say that we have a young side, they will gain experience and will become more organised, will they ??
Hamilton came to Cappielow with a younger side, they were well organised, young players blooded over the past two seasons. The only young player to come into the Ton side is young Jim, have we no other young players, if we have the should be introduced, you don't learn a lot about them until tested in the front line, in for a few games and given a rest then thrown in again good players will thrive, as for the rest get rid.
This is scottish 1st div not EPL or even SPL, reality check please. I want a good team too.

I'll shut up now and get on with ma work

NorgieTon

Near the beginning of last season Hamilton were well and truly humped by Gretna who put (I think) 6 past them. I remember Billy Reid saying at the time that the lads were a bit down, but they were a young side and hopefully would gel over the season. True to his word they gubbed Gretna near the end.

We've had well nigh the same player pool for two seasons!!!

mortonjag 2007-08-29 11:26:35
QUOTE(GreatKingRat @ Aug 29 2007, 11:13 AM) [snapback]324887[/snapback]
Also, people who start posts with "I haven't read this thread, but here's MY opinion...".

f*** off, if you're not going to bother reading our opinions, then we're not going to read yours.

I find the ones who CLAIM to have read a thread and clearly haven't, even more frustrating!
mortonjag 2007-08-29 11:29:06
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Aug 29 2007, 11:23 AM) [snapback]324891[/snapback]
Johnathan "1966" Motson, and I can't stand that wee tw@t Graeme Speirs when he is on Scotsport! mad.gif

I heard Speirs attempting to commentate on the Golf at Loch Lomond-he came over as a total wolly.
mortonjag 2007-08-29 13:26:35
QUOTE(McInally`s Monkey @ Aug 29 2007, 12:58 PM) [snapback]324921[/snapback]
I'd actually take their word for it! I was speaking to Sanny for a while earlier that night (whilst we were both reasonably sober) and he didn't seem too confident that the chairman wanted to keep him. Thank jebus he did keep him - we'd have a 4-6-0 formation in operation!!

Two new players by friday is the shout. I'm giving no names, I'm giving no sources, just going by what I've been told. No idea if they'll be loan signings or bought outright

Any particular Friday?
mortonjag 2007-08-29 13:30:24
QUOTE(MrX @ Aug 29 2007, 11:40 AM) [snapback]324897[/snapback]
MJ, your level of commitment to this forum and your dogged crusade to spread hatred of the current MFC heirarchy truly astounds me. At present you've posted around 11060 post, if you break that down to roughly 2mins a post it works out as 369 hours of bile and negativity. Thats over 15 days. Don't you ever consider a break in the sunshine? 15 days in florida sipping rum punch..... you could consider it rehab. wink.gif

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mortonjag 2007-08-29 13:35:53
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Aug 29 2007, 01:06 PM) [snapback]324927[/snapback]
True. But how easy is it to do your job when your boss is constantly undermining you?

I pursue my tireless crusade of hatred and bilious negativity towards people who make arses of themselves at the expense of genuine Morton fans. dry.gif


Shall we have a new poll headed Glutei Maximi?


Ex nihil, nihil fit-if ye don't eat ye cannae sh*t.
mortonjag 2007-08-29 13:38:21
QUOTE(McInally`s Monkey @ Aug 29 2007, 01:03 PM) [snapback]324924[/snapback]
Would 'real' Turkish Delight not be from Turkey?????

Cyprus is half full of Turkeys Turks!
mortonjag 2007-08-29 13:47:54 laugh.gif

That's a ridiculous thread.


For once we agree


Seconded. Excersising my democratic right not to vote




Come gentlemen, it may well appear ridiculous, but in the light of recent publicity about Jimbo, and unrest about Bimbo, I'd suggest it's not by any means the worst.

By that, I'm referring to the concept. The actual poll is a wee bit odd!
mortonjag 2007-08-29 14:08:00
QUOTE(McInally`s Monkey @ Aug 29 2007, 01:56 PM) [snapback]324962[/snapback]
Brian Clough died 3 years ago blink.gif

Our thoughts are with the family.
mortonjag 2007-08-29 14:11:14
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 29 2007, 12:25 PM) [snapback]324906[/snapback]
I actually like Fudgy Wudgies. You get them in the Spar for 10p or similar. Good stuff.

There's nothing wrong with them, except that they sound and look cheap and nasty. They are not by any means nasty unless you value your gnashers.

Mr Rae is, IMHO, a fine confectioner!
mortonjag 2007-08-29 14:12:49
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 29 2007, 12:34 PM) [snapback]324909[/snapback]
Keep me posted with that, your services may be required after my mates stag weekends.

Gonna fix my ankle as well ya auld shagger.

I told you months ago it needed to go in stookie!
mortonjag 2007-08-29 14:16:06 Whatever you do, DON'T try to find your way about by car-it's a bloody nightmare. Better asking some questions on the Dundee fans forum, but definitely avoid the Jahangir Indian in the City Centre-expensive and crap!!
mortonjag 2007-08-29 14:21:45
QUOTE(NonTon @ Aug 29 2007, 12:08 PM) [snapback]324903[/snapback]
This is the one roundabout I'm never quite sure how your meant to tackle.

There is a secret to successfully negotiating roundabouts-I rarely have any trouble.

Enclose P.O. for £25 and stamped addressed envelope and send to Maniac Saab Driver, P.O.Box 666, Glasgow GET1 T UPU
mortonjag 2007-08-29 14:25:09
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 28 2007, 09:06 PM) [snapback]324547[/snapback]
On current form, I'd give it a go.

Scholes has been spraying the ball to pretty much everyone not wearing a Man U shirt this season. Scored one goal v Portsmouth and suddenly he's the best midfielder in europe.

Sounds just like Davie McG.....eh wee man?
mortonjag 2007-08-29 14:27:53
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 29 2007, 02:08 PM) [snapback]324964[/snapback]
2 mins a post.
Jeezo he must be old. huh.gif

Hush viking-he's actually ME trying to drum up even more publicity!
mortonjag 2007-08-29 14:29:39
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 29 2007, 02:12 PM) [snapback]324967[/snapback]
No its not. tongue.gif
The Turks are a minority in an illegally occupied zone.
Hence the "We Hate Turkey" festivities in the south every July. smile.gif

Half full or half empty-who's counting Cyprus had definitely got lots of Turkeys Turks.
mortonjag 2007-08-29 14:32:20
QUOTE(arklesTON @ Aug 29 2007, 02:12 PM) [snapback]324968[/snapback]
Tell us something we dont know, such as who we are going to sign before the transfer window shuts.

Brian Clough was also an "arrogant, alcoholic fecker wi a heid too big for his own good" but it didnt stop him from turning a relatively small club in England into domestic and European champions. Rowan Alexander guided a non-league English team through the Scottish leagues to the SPL. The guy can manage a football team, and very well at that. He has the achievements to prove as much, no-one can deny him that.

Also, Alcoholism is an illness, and a treatable one at that. Is it an affliction that many folk have/had suffer from, including some who pass through the turnstiles at Cappielow. To discriminate against someone because he has had an illness in the past would be abhorable, and hypocritical to say the least especially as a couple of years earlier we had a reformed drug abuser, Andy McLaren in our team.

All true Arky, but IS Rowan an alky? I don't think it's ever been officially stated.

He's certainly an arrogant f*d, but that comes with the genes too!
mortonjag 2007-08-29 14:33:47
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 29 2007, 02:31 PM) [snapback]324978[/snapback]
Well if you murder Greek cypriots it would increase the Turk-Greek proportion somewhat. dry.gif
Cypriot delight, not Turkish delight. tongue.gif

I'm away for a jobby-back soon.
mortonjag 2007-08-29 14:43:21
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Aug 29 2007, 02:26 PM) [snapback]324974[/snapback]
I really dont see what the problem is with people reacting to half time/full time scores from other games. I regularly take fans of the following clubs to Morton games:- Arbroath, East Fife, Rangers & Celtic. What is wrong with them reacting to their teams results at half time? What about people cheering results that they have had a bet on, is that a problem? What about fans that travel as a group to the odd Ton games e.g. West Brom fans, should they not react to English results. I also know a few ton fans who have family members that follow OF teams and would therefore be happy that the relevant OF team were winning at half time.

I have gone as a neutral to many Scottish & English games - should I have kept quite at half time when the Tone result was read out ?



You would if you were TON deaf.
mortonjag 2007-08-29 14:47:43
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 29 2007, 02:35 PM) [snapback]324983[/snapback]
Shouldn't you be working or bowling or something? tongue.gif

We have the internet AND a toilet at Newlands Bowling club, where I daily give free consultations to my many admirers.
mortonjag 2007-08-29 14:51:16
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Aug 29 2007, 02:34 PM) [snapback]324982[/snapback]
you suggesting he's a hunk ? (or should it be a skun) Any way I agree - he's a good guy.

Do YOU know him? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-29 14:56:16
QUOTE(McInally`s Monkey @ Aug 29 2007, 01:27 PM) [snapback]324944[/snapback]
Friday 28th August 2009

...at what time?
mortonjag 2007-08-29 14:59:57
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 29 2007, 02:57 PM) [snapback]324994[/snapback]
Its a past time that can be undertaken by many people of all ages.
As Mortonjag clearly has nothing to do, I was merely suggesting he take up this noble past time, no? tongue.gif

I take it you've got a free period son.

When I was at a PROPER school, it was constant work!
mortonjag 2007-08-29 15:03:06
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Aug 29 2007, 02:59 PM) [snapback]324996[/snapback]
Not personally, but have seen and heard enough to form this opinion. He also has the ability to take the piss out of himself - which is always a reasonable start in my book .

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Never a truer word spoken, and usually totally unaware of it.
mortonjag 2007-08-29 15:04:27
QUOTE(eehbahton @ Aug 29 2007, 12:49 PM) [snapback]324917[/snapback]
We are travelling to Dundee on 29 Sept and intend to stay over. I would appreciate any advice from Ton fans based in the area or who have their own experiences. I would like to know if we should stay in Dundee or are we better off in one of the neighbouring towns? We are all early forties and like a good night out. Not bothered about nightclubs and would prefer to avoid bars full of teenagers. Actually met Alex Rae's wife on holiday and she suggested Carnoustie. Any opinions would be gratefully received.

I was going to suggest asking JM, but his answers to questions can be confusing.
mortonjag 2007-08-29 15:07:37
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 29 2007, 03:04 PM) [snapback]325001[/snapback]
Excellent deduction.
I've got two days work out of the next 7 school days.
God I love open days. smile.gif
Anyhoo, now my Bebo's been sorted I'll find something more worthwhile to do with the afternoon.
Mebbe bowls. ohmy.gif tongue.gif


I thought you were still at the bottle/Farleys' Rusks!
mortonjag 2007-08-29 15:33:07 Shaggy dog story
THE last train from Edinburgh to Glasgow is a bizarre mixture of travellers which peaks during the Edinburgh Festival.

On Saturday a chap dressed from head to foot as the cartoon dog Scooby Doo was waiting to get off at Linlithgow while all around folk were singing the Scooby TV series theme tune.

No-one expected, though, that when the doors opened, the chap dressed as Shaggy's canine sidekick would dive off, run to the nearest wall, tear off most of his costume, then do what all dogs do when they find need to spend a penny.

Scooby then zipped himself back up and managed to get back on board the train before it left.

We presume he kept Scooby's head on to hide his red face.
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mortonjag 2007-08-29 15:42:17
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 29 2007, 03:36 PM) [snapback]325007[/snapback]
Can see where you are coming from, but in my humble opinion it's still a ridiculous thread. Take it we don't need to guess where your vote went then?

laugh.gif

By the time I read it Weegie there was already a strong vote for Bimbo!

I was tempted to vote for Jimbo as I normally support the underdog, but I refrained!
mortonjag 2007-08-29 15:46:58
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 29 2007, 03:40 PM) [snapback]325011[/snapback]
dundee fans said shields was too small to be a right back but was far better in central midfield.

weatherson scores goals from RB. put him up front and you wont replace his goals from his replacement at RB meaning we lose maybe 15 goals a season. we need to find a striker to partner templeman and score goals. that way we have goals from all over the park.

agree with stevenson.

Dundee fans, like JM, live in wonderland!

Your 'logic' is totally lost on me-if Spoonsy scored 15 last season wearing No 2, and scores 16 this season wearing No 10 we're a goal to the good.

Truth is, if he was allowed to gel with Sanny it would be more like 25.
mortonjag 2007-08-29 15:51:49
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 29 2007, 03:39 PM) [snapback]325009[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif His favourite soup is c***-a-leekie.

Aye but only supped in Moderation.

Talking of soups-which in your experience generates the most odoriferous flatus?
mortonjag 2007-08-29 16:01:43
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Aug 29 2007, 03:39 PM) [snapback]325010[/snapback]
Was it you who said on here that people registered as disabled get free bus passes?

if so....how do you get one?

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If you're referring to a 'Disabled' badge, talk nicely to your G.P. or send Mortonjag a donation.

One of the biggest wastes of public money of all time-GROSSLY abused, and as usual it's the genuinely disabled who ultimately suffer.

We live in a country of con artists-I'm not specifically referring to our good Chocolate Boy as I don't know his particular circumstances, but the 'Disabled Badge' covers a multitude of diagnoses, relatively few of which necessitate the use of public transport relative to other means of getting about.

mortonjag 2007-08-29 16:10:55
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 29 2007, 03:59 PM) [snapback]325018[/snapback]
He scores goals when he is allowed to foray foward , Stirling and Hamilton made sure he had enough to cope with in his defending .
Weatherson is an obvious target for opposition managers to try and negate his goal threat . If they can achieve that then the wisdom of keeping him at right back is senseless .
If we don't get another goalscorer in , then our best option is Weatherson as a link with Templeman .
I also think it is the managers job to motivate his players into full fitness rather than bemoaning the fact that he hasn't looked after himself .
Afterall we are told Jim is a big disciplinarian yet he admits Spoonsy's fitness is below par but the manager makes an exception because of his goals .

ohmy.gif

I thought JM merely said he could be fitter!

If he's been abusing himself in private, it's maybe difficult for Mummy to do much.

Boys will be boys, and when Mummy lives 120 miles away, I guess they can get off with being knotty.
mortonjag 2007-08-29 16:14:17
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 29 2007, 04:07 PM) [snapback]325021[/snapback]
Another ridiculous thread. Still excersising my democratic right not to vote.

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You're beginning to sound like the Chocolate Boy Weegie!

BTW I didn't vote on this one either!
mortonjag 2007-08-29 16:20:14
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 29 2007, 04:14 PM) [snapback]325024[/snapback]
Lentil or French onion. Why do you ask?
Mind you I think that would be a better poll than some of them on the forum.

That's certainly true!

I ask because I wonder-I wonder about many things.... like which hand Shoogly uses to wipe his arse, or has he discovered paper-but I am pretty insane.

I find turnip soup produces disgusting farts. I make it specially, on the first of each month (except March, which is a bad month for Swedes) and keep it in the freezer, to be brought out when she invites folk I dislike. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-29 16:28:04
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 29 2007, 04:17 PM) [snapback]325025[/snapback]
mad.gif
You behave MJ

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Oh Weegie if I ever really offend you, you can join the jolly band of huff buttoners-I'm told 99.6% of posters have me on ignore at any given time which is good, because I already have to work bloody hard to keep up with the rest!
mortonjag 2007-08-30 06:43:51
QUOTE(NorgieTon @ Aug 29 2007, 05:20 PM) [snapback]325062[/snapback]
I find it hard to believe that I've read 9 pages of this pish.

40 years I've being going to watch football, stop trying to censor fans with your outrageous indignation,

people will always have different opinions.

OF no time for either branch, but if their poorer supporters want to come and spend thei giro's at cappielow

welcome.

who gives a flying fcuk if people cheer different scores, all part of lifes rich tapestry.

Big Sanny, hope he proves me wrong, but I think he's too soft and will never be a footballer whilst his erse points towards the ground, only my opinion of course, you are all welcome to yours and I'll neither threaten or sue.

NorgieTon laugh.gif cool.gif

I find the highlighted word offensive.
mortonjag 2007-08-30 06:47:27
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 29 2007, 06:20 PM) [snapback]325083[/snapback]
All sounds like positive stuff.

Will not be amused if we don't get someone who is playing on Sat.

Edit to add... seems like we have finally realised it is not a good move to go about dropping names of our signing targets.

Are you losing faith in God?
mortonjag 2007-08-30 06:51:16 Dougie just sounds like a woman set free in Braehead with too much money and too little sense.

....and EVERYBODY sees him coming!!! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-30 06:55:19
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Aug 29 2007, 07:17 PM) [snapback]325106[/snapback]
that aint glasgow and that was not my concern however my fears have now been quashed, confirmed the players do have a day off, fears allayed

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mortonjag 2007-08-30 06:57:23
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Aug 29 2007, 09:05 PM) [snapback]325161[/snapback]
Yeah Man Friday..........

Apparently he is joining Temps up front just in front of the oasis that is a goal mouth!

We've already got Robinson!
mortonjag 2007-08-30 07:03:01
QUOTE(MrX @ Aug 29 2007, 09:54 PM) [snapback]325176[/snapback]
True some of his posts are quick and venomous, but some of the longer posts are like the Death Of A 1000 Cuts japanese torture..... painful. Those take at least 2mins to compose tongue.gif

My Mum always said, 'If a thing's worth doing, it's worth doing well'. My Mum is very wise, and was genetically generous.

I've just completed my Herald Crossword-9 minutes this morning, which gives me time for three of those lengthy compositions before my first jobby of the day.
mortonjag 2007-08-30 07:07:07
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 30 2007, 12:21 AM) [snapback]325236[/snapback]
Phil Cannie came into the team in the last couple of months of the 2001/02 season and was the only half decent player we had and certainly didn't look crap compared to anyone in that team.

Correct Jonaton-some of our posters love the 'kick a man when he's down syndrome'.

When JM is gone I will simply remember him as a poor manager who did his best in impossible circumstances.
mortonjag 2007-08-30 07:10:57
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Aug 30 2007, 12:27 AM) [snapback]325239[/snapback]
The way things seem to have (or should i say have not) been going on the signings front, i am starting to think that this season we are going to end up one of those clubs that leave it to the 11th hour.

I think we will probably sign 2 or 3 players on friday night. possibilities include:-

* celtic changing their tune at the last minute and accepting a reduced offer for mcgowan

* imrie not getting any better offers and coming for a reduced fee

* other players as yet unnamed who find themselves without any better offers

* loan signings (stevie lennon has been mentioned elsewhere)

* i also wouldnt be surprised if we see movement in the opposite direction.

Every year we see a massive spate of transfer activity in the last few hours of the transfer window, often with some surprising signings cropping up(i can remember often scanning through the deadline day transfers and being scunnered at us missing out on some good players who had moved to lesser clubs than us). Of course, waiting until the last minute is a risky tactic(and i use that word loosely), as you may end up with nothing.

But on the other hand, all day thursday and friday the agents will be hitting the phones, trying to punt any of their clients who fancy a move but dont have anything better on the table.

FACT - There will be some good players getting offered to those who have some money to spend (which i assume we have)

Of course, if given the choice i would rather that we had kicked off the new season with a strengthened squad, ready for 1st division football!

FACT-then why is everybody knocking back 'best offers'?
mortonjag 2007-08-30 07:35:13
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 30 2007, 07:22 AM) [snapback]325261[/snapback]
And then you'll kick him. Again. laugh.gif

Not like me to be serious for once DE, but NO!

Furthermore I'd just love to hear his first hand account of life with the Almighty Toothrotter.
mortonjag 2007-08-30 07:40:16
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 30 2007, 07:37 AM) [snapback]325263[/snapback]
Surely we're getting to the 'James Grady must be worth a phone call' stage?

Can't see us getting Imrie or McGowan.

Although loan deals are def a possibility.

An absolutely guaranteed and distinctly definite, strong possibility even. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-30 07:46:59
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 29 2007, 04:30 PM) [snapback]325032[/snapback]
I don't have any stookies available. No way to fix it without one?

And Rex, I know you did but let's face it, you're a God among men.

Nope!

There's no exact equivalent in mechanical terms, but lets suppose a wheel bearing had the capacity to heal after it began to wear out, but you had to stick yer bike under a tarpaulin for four weeks, 'cos driving about prevented the 'healing' from happening!

Tarpaulin = stookie.
mortonjag 2007-08-30 07:49:37
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Aug 29 2007, 04:17 PM) [snapback]325026[/snapback]
its not so much a disabled badge im referring to.

I heard that there was a bus pass which i could get. Now im not gonna lie, i aint the most disabled person in the world given the fact that I can still walk and run and do everything pretty normally but if a doctor tells me im disabled (which they have) im gonna take what i can rightfully get smile.gif

anyone else know or am i spouting s***e?

Thrax, I shall totally ignore the comments of that self satisfied clot. If you DO have a genuine disability p.m. me and I'll do my very best to help you.
mortonjag 2007-08-30 07:51:51
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 29 2007, 05:18 PM) [snapback]325061[/snapback]
It's a hard one, and my list would change constantly, but here is todays ten:
1. Stone Roses - I am The Resurrection.
2. U2 - Sunday Bloody Sunday
3. Queen - Dragon Attack
4. Wilson Pickett - Mustang Sally
5. Van Morrison - Brown Eyed Girl
6. KMO - Mother Natures Kitchen
7. The Rolling Stones - Tumbling Dice
8. The Beatles - Just about any song they did
9. Bob Dylan - All Along The Watchtower
10. Neil Young - Harvest

'Do you remember when.....
we used to win! laugh.gif


Just noticed he's 62 today!
mortonjag 2007-08-30 07:59:30
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 23 2007, 12:49 PM) [snapback]320802[/snapback]
The spacers can be cut i.e. make it into a T shape.

It's quicker to just break the arms, you can get four small straight spacers, a 'T' and one small straight spacer. two ''vee' spacers (which are redundant unless you like it that way), and many more-in fact the list is endless.

I've always found matchsticks perfectly effective, and much cheaper. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-30 08:02:02
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 29 2007, 06:53 PM) [snapback]325097[/snapback]
Yuck, soup with a prune in it sad.gif

Stop swimming-you'll drown ya dick.
mortonjag 2007-08-30 08:15:28 I was delighted to see Brian Graham score the first senior goal of his career which proved to be the difference between the two sides, and ultimately the match winner. Was it a co-incidence that I had highlighted what I considered to be Brian’s’ above average awareness of where the goal is in my last column?!


You know it wasn't almighty one-pray stop teasing.
mortonjag 2007-08-30 10:02:22
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Aug 30 2007, 08:38 AM) [snapback]325276[/snapback]
Holy crap. More positives in that statement that my last STD check laugh.gif laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2007-08-30 10:16:25 Apparently Shoogly's been on the 'phone all morning pleading for a change of heart on Gowsa now the Tims are guaranteed big bucks.

Something along the lines of £80,000.10, plus 25.1% of any 'on fees', free Hospitality for the Ginger Cretin Gnome and his chosen partner in the chairman's lounge at Cappielow, a guided tour of Golden Casket with full sampling facilities for the Celtic squad and their WAGs, and a written promise never to say naughty things ever ever again in his programme notes.

Trouble is the old bod doesn't realise he's been talking to Walter Smith, who hasn't got a word in edgeways yet.
mortonjag 2007-08-30 10:22:50
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 29 2007, 09:56 PM) [snapback]325177[/snapback]
Controversial, factual and amusing. Boozie is someone using your account ? tongue.gif

TonInDublin

Controversial and factual!

YOU are amusing. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-30 10:24:40
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 29 2007, 10:04 PM) [snapback]325183[/snapback]
or Maggie's refusal to impose meaningful sanctions on the same regime.

Where you sit is where you stand indeed.

TonInDublin

Controversial, illogical, and trite.
mortonjag 2007-08-30 10:28:32 In Machiavellian terms Mandela may well be perceived as a saint.

If I was enduring the oppression his lot faced, I'd probably stop at nothing too.

Furthermore I believe that much at Holyrood could do with a healthy dose of terrorism.
mortonjag 2007-08-30 10:36:02
QUOTE(upaclose @ Aug 30 2007, 10:32 AM) [snapback]325309[/snapback]
I take it TID pumped you in an argument at sometime? You seem to have this spiteful, vindictive streak where you attack the posts of someone who has bested you previously, while completely ignoring the topic.

Then you are mistaken.
mortonjag 2007-08-30 10:40:50
QUOTE(stu_1874 @ Aug 30 2007, 10:35 AM) [snapback]325311[/snapback]
ahhhhhhhh the kings of the road, the taxi drivers, get on my nerves aswell
nah what happened was this car was so far up my a**e, we came up to the top of the hill and a car was letting us up but I had to turn after the car to park, so after I got by (i was indicating) i turned, and the car behind me nearly rammed into me, so he sounded his horn, morton fan aswell, might actually be reading this laugh.gif but he got it back right in his face anyway, hate it when people are right up the back of ur car mad.gif

I too hate the magnetic back bumper syndrome-more and more it's young women in hot Peugeots and the like. The simple solution is to slow down very progressively, but the minute they try to pull out to overtake, resume your original speed. Do this as often as necessary-in my experience it always works, and eventually the fall back a bit.
mortonjag 2007-08-30 12:15:06
QUOTE(upaclose @ Aug 30 2007, 10:57 AM) [snapback]325321[/snapback]
So was it one of your gay sons he pumped and never called back?

My gay sons are selective.
mortonjag 2007-08-30 12:18:48
QUOTE(lush @ Aug 30 2007, 11:27 AM) [snapback]325337[/snapback]
He was singing like a linty at the end, f*d. ohmy.gif

Ach well Lush he was brought up as a wee working class Catholic boy in Anderston-he is indeed now a super f*d, but he's always been a 'Tim', so don't grudge him his moment of joy.
mortonjag 2007-08-30 12:32:18
QUOTE(MrX @ Aug 30 2007, 11:02 AM) [snapback]325323[/snapback]
What a life ...... a crossword, some McInally bashing and then a jobby..... it doesn't get much better than that does it MJ?

Nope-happy as a pig in sh*t! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-30 12:38:12 I have two Morton mugs which I use for my tea addiction.

Two Morton mugs can sometimes be useful.
mortonjag 2007-08-30 12:43:46 The season tickets, strips, and signings all seem to have been plagued with problems which could surely have been avoided with an ounce of forward planning.

We DESPERATELY need somebody to RUN this club-not an ageing confectioner whose inveterate meddling in every area of the organisation is a positive disaster.
mortonjag 2007-08-30 13:59:54
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Aug 30 2007, 01:54 PM) [snapback]325386[/snapback]
I think that was the idea. Please don't encourage him huh.gif

Gentlemen I require no encouragement. I love my two Morton mugs-one is normally half full (or in my case half empty) of strong tea, and the other is a lifesaver when the catheter bypasses.

One big jug would not perform both purposes without an unacceptable degree of recycling.

Their names are 'Hope' and 'Prayer'.
mortonjag 2007-08-30 14:03:10
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Aug 30 2007, 01:58 PM) [snapback]325387[/snapback]
Wasnt the Season ticket problem due to flooding ??

Damm you dougie rae you should have known about the floods months ago
Would you rather have gone Part time ??

That was only one of several c*** ups, but served as a brilliant cover.
mortonjag 2007-08-30 14:07:41
QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 30 2007, 01:00 PM) [snapback]325372[/snapback]
Might have known those two would be the fist to reply to this... zzzzzzzzzz

Whenever the word 'ENGLAND' is typed, their computers play 'Flower of Scotland' to alert them.


False alarm guys-back to work!
mortonjag 2007-08-30 14:10:55
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Aug 30 2007, 02:03 PM) [snapback]325390[/snapback]
So what would you do without a hope and a prayer? Perhaps yer mate Shoogly could give you the answer.

I guess I'd slowly dehydrate and die.



What was that I you wanted Shoogly to do?
mortonjag 2007-08-30 14:16:29
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Aug 30 2007, 02:13 PM) [snapback]325397[/snapback]
With mcinally insisting that we would have 2 new players in place surely we cannot doubt this rolleyes.gif in saying that if the quality is s***e then whats the point. for 3 years we have required a couple of street smart footballers and to find them in about the same time frame as it takes to boil an egg i doubt very much they'll be life changing signings and a doubt I'll be skipping into cappielow on saturday to witness free flowing football ...not on your mcanelly

I would be astonished if either of the perpetrators of our closed season torture has a clue about boiling an egg.
mortonjag 2007-08-30 17:33:32 Cryptic Crossword

Today's jobby was reasonably quick, though I didn't time it.
mortonjag 2007-08-30 17:33:58
QUOTE(Pat SharpTon @ Aug 30 2007, 02:48 PM) [snapback]325405[/snapback]
What? The jobby or the crossword?

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mortonjag 2007-08-30 17:42:39
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Aug 30 2007, 05:16 PM) [snapback]325455[/snapback]
well he is a local celebrity after all, a bit like greenocks version of richard branson.



Really- I think the term 'pariah' is rapidly becoming more appropriate.
mortonjag 2007-08-30 17:53:10
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Aug 30 2007, 02:56 PM) [snapback]325408[/snapback]
He's only trying to give assistance to somebody who asked for it - no??

NO-he's a self satisfied clot Chris.

He tells Thrax he wants to 'save Mortonjag from interfering', asks him to p.m., and then adds 'you will require a Dr's letter'.

Well Chris, I AM a bloody doctor who worked for years as an EMO with the DSS/Benefits agency SPECIALISING in Mobility and Attendance Allowance, and in addition was a G.P. who had to dish out such 'letters'.

Furthermore my ex-wife suffers from Multiple Sclerosis.

I did not make my comments lightly-the genuinely disabled suffer greatly every year because of gross abuse of schemes like those.

My offer to Thrax stands.
mortonjag 2007-08-30 17:57:38
QUOTE(Robert the Bruce @ Aug 30 2007, 02:28 PM) [snapback]325400[/snapback]
...........................and when the word "P R I C K" is typed you get a pop-up.

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"P R I C K" is not a word RTB.

My pop ups have been blocked for weeks but I'm on new pills.
mortonjag 2007-08-30 18:09:54 Scottish Cup
1st Round Draw

The draw for the first round of the Scottish Cup took place today, with 35 being included at this stage (17 ties and one bye). The matches will take place on Saturday, 29 September.

Brora Rangers v Cove Rangers
Golspie Sutherland v Preston Athletic
Coldstream v Dalbeattie Star
Glasgow University v Buckie Thistle
Wigtown & Bladnoch v Burntisland Shipyard
Civil Service Strollers v Selkirk
Fort William v Spartans
Newton Stewart v Linlithgow Rose
Vale of Leithen v Gala Fairydean
Wick Academy v Deveronvale
Culter v Hawick Royal Albert
Rothes v Nairn County
St Cuthbert Wanderers v Pollok
Fraserburgh v Huntly
Girvan v Forres Mechanics
Lossiemouth v Whitehill Welfare
Clachnacuddin v Edinburgh City

Bye - Edinburgh University

Scottish Cup was posted by GMFC.
To discuss any of its subject matter further please contact Greenock Morton Football Club
mortonjag 2007-08-30 18:16:44
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 30 2007, 02:50 PM) [snapback]325407[/snapback]
Can we post questions on here? Or do we still call NHS 24

You may post and I shall do my utmost to give a personal reply to each individual! wink.gif

In Medical terms, the said Doctor has relatively less experience than Gowsa has in football!
mortonjag 2007-08-30 18:18:35
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 30 2007, 06:16 PM) [snapback]325499[/snapback]
That's all because it's me thats updating that section of the official website. wink.gif

Sorry MidTONs, I thought it was just another Fudgy Wudgy to disguise the lack of signings! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-30 18:20:46
QUOTE(lush @ Aug 30 2007, 04:24 PM) [snapback]325431[/snapback]
They are a lot longer this season. Good bum warmer for the winter.

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Young women don't have cold bums in my experience.
mortonjag 2007-08-30 18:24:39
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 30 2007, 06:20 PM) [snapback]325505[/snapback]
Sorry MT I didn't know Dougie would let you into the hub of the operation .

.........he gets a bag of Millions seconds, and a 'Big Softie' for every insertion he makes for the old chappie.
mortonjag 2007-08-30 18:33:15
QUOTE(centralTON @ Aug 30 2007, 06:28 PM) [snapback]325511[/snapback]
I've just seen the first half of Celtic v Hearts reserves on Celtic tv and McGowan didn't look out of place in a team that included Gravesen, Jarosik, Riordan, Sno, Balde, O'Dea and O'Brian. £85k is far too much to pay for him, but, rather him than no one at all.

I think that beautifully illustrates the fact that Paul's talent shines through when he's playing alongside experience. Far too much was expected of him at the Ton, and as nothing has changed he'd again be expected to 'bring home the bacon' in every match. The boy's better off where he is, and so are we.
mortonjag 2007-08-30 18:40:35
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Aug 30 2007, 06:34 PM) [snapback]325516[/snapback]
pretty disappointed he isn't an Aulds man.

....but not surprised when he gets his season ticket books (eventually) printed in England.

There may yet be the possibility of a philosophical discussion here. He was allegedly spotted 'Coming out of Greggs'.

I put it to you that he'd been studying masterbakery in the back shop yesterday, and was accidentally locked in for 24 hours.

This might also explain the delay in finalising our five new signings for Saturday.
mortonjag 2007-08-30 18:43:53
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 30 2007, 06:39 PM) [snapback]325522[/snapback]
Well I think you should go and see a Dr tongue.gif

A sh*te doctor I assume.
mortonjag 2007-08-30 18:46:14
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Aug 30 2007, 06:42 PM) [snapback]325525[/snapback]
Would have taken him in a second.
Looks like St Johnstone have taken Kenny Deuchar on loan also.

I gather he prefers Stirling Royal to IRH for the pocket money.
mortonjag 2007-08-30 18:48:26
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Aug 30 2007, 06:45 PM) [snapback]325527[/snapback]
If he had gone to Aulds he could have got 5 donuts for the price of 4 and they put them in a nice wee box for you.

AND they would not have cost anywhere near £85k AND he would not have to make a further payment of 25% when he has finished with them.

HOWEVER, he would have to be extra careful that the chubby coach doesn't get his hands on them while Dougie's in the dressing room giving the team his usual dressing down team talk.

I still want to know this

DID THEY REFUSE TO SELL HIM ANYTHING?
mortonjag 2007-08-30 18:51:16 29 hrs 10 mins Shoogly!
mortonjag 2007-08-30 18:57:10
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Aug 30 2007, 06:53 PM) [snapback]325533[/snapback]
The donuts agreed to come and just as Dougie was about to hand over the cash, the donuts rolled off the counter and down the road to Dundee and there was no bloddy stopping them.

Dougie walked straight out of Gregs and over the road to the Tele office to issue an official statement.

...ach well the hungry old soul has free access to as much Yorkshire Pudding as he wants
mortonjag 2007-08-30 19:05:28 Normally by this time on Thursday we're involved in active debate about the pros and cons of the forthcoming match.

Is the lack of interest just my imagination, or is there a creeping despondency already afflicting our normally eager and upbeat posters?

I'll get it started by predicting a MUCH smaller turnout than last Saturday.
mortonjag 2007-08-30 19:10:45
QUOTE(GMC @ Aug 30 2007, 07:09 PM) [snapback]325537[/snapback]
I predict a higher attendance, if and only if we manage to get 2 *decent* players in.

Looks like Homer's up for it GMC! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-30 19:15:53
QUOTE(El Duderino @ Aug 30 2007, 07:13 PM) [snapback]325540[/snapback]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/south_...and/6966978.stm

Wonder if the Wherries are interested...

I shall happily compose a ditty at Midnight tomorrow, but suspect it will be unprintable.
mortonjag 2007-08-30 19:22:45 Having unsuccessfully attempted to make three purchases earlier today, there are unconfirmed reports that Morton Chairman, Douglas Rae, was apprehended attempting a forced entry to Auld's premises in Gourock at 19.03 this evening.

Apparently he's short of dough.
mortonjag 2007-08-31 04:27:04
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 30 2007, 11:26 PM) [snapback]325729[/snapback]
What he said.
Not my cup of tea. But obviously it's a big thing for others - so each to their own and all that.
TonInDublin

I'd love to agree for once, but as I haven't a clue about this thread which I've instinctively avoided as being of the 'What are you listening to/drinking/who are you shagging now?' variety, I can neither approve or disapprove of its content.
mortonjag 2007-08-31 04:55:31
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 30 2007, 09:50 PM) [snapback]325675[/snapback]
I don't see his posts anymore Upaclose. Ignore button was pushed long ago..... in line with several, and I mean a generous several - others who chose to push the same button.

Unfortunately I went from a "kindred spirit" (no seriously, search the site, he says that !) to a "latter day Jesus", to a "despicable piece of vermin" to an "Offaly Holy Willie" (no idea what that means but Manky reckons it's up there somewhere). How I'll get over that I'll never know.

All because I believed that some of the pish he was posting was encouraging other peoples latent racist and fascist opinions - unlike Hamcam - who outright CALLED him a racist, or the countless others who have called him in recent weeks a w**k, a kn**, a f***ing arsehole, a p***k etc etc etc - which, strangely enough, is borne out by his bile at every twist and turn to anyone who can't see his way is the only way and the right way.

But our thoughts are less important than his - he has two doctorates you see.

For the record, I wasn't sure he was a racist before - I merely thought he was being a bit disingenuous.
Now I'm positive - he's a full blown fascist in the truest sense of the word.

Strange that the clarity for me came in the wake of his response to the attack on Glasgow airport - you know what they say - dictatorship always starts with an act of terror - Hitler had his Reichstag fire, and Bush his 9/11. In the final summation, the result of an inside terrorist attack is always the same.

But I digress.

Only Fuhrerjag's way is right, only his thoughts are pure, only he has the right answer, only he has the final solution.

Anybody who doesn't have an unerring agreement with every thought of his is an Auslander.
So he's decided myself, manky and a few others should link hands and walk forward onto the minefield to "collect strawberries for our dinner".

You're welcome on the forced march if you want to join us mate.

Alternatively, you know the drill with that wee button this site provides to save you from it all.
I like to think of it as my own wee personal antidote to Zyklon-B.

TonInDublin

There are, at present, few self-identified fascists. Since the defeat of the Axis powers in World War II, the word has become a slur throughout the rest of the political spectrum; since 1945 it has been extremely uncommon for political groups to call themselves fascist. In contemporary political discourse, adherents of some ideologies tend to associate fascism with their enemies, or define it as embodying the opposite of their own views.


Believed to date from Etruscan times, the symbolism of the fasces at one level suggested strength through unity. The bundle of rods bound together symbolizes the strength which a single rod lacks. The axe symbolized the state's power and authority. The rods symbolized the state's obligation to exercise restraint in the exercising of that power. The highest magistrates would have their lictors unbind the fasces they carried as a warning if approaching the limits of restraint.

TiD, I sometimes feel sorry for you. You're just a wee boy at heart-one who loves to please and be well thought of.

Just refrain from defending silly innuendo (as in the post terrorist incident), and try to get out and about a bit more.

If I've ever said, implied, or thought for that matter anything 'fascist', I refuse to make one word of apology.

I call it as I see it, and unlike you, I enjoy the luxury of life with a conscience which doesn't have to cram misfits into an ideological jigsaw puzzle before I can sleep at night
mortonjag 2007-08-31 05:38:59
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Aug 30 2007, 10:46 PM) [snapback]325709[/snapback]
Are you on the wind up Chrissiboi? laugh.gif

Lagavulin more like! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-31 05:47:12
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 30 2007, 09:06 PM) [snapback]325645[/snapback]
You canny argue with Kenny's reasons for signing for St Johnstone instead of Morton.

Wait and see, I know Morton are looking at better players than Deuchar, currently.

A cat may loook at the Queen.
mortonjag 2007-08-31 06:08:15
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Aug 31 2007, 12:42 AM) [snapback]325747[/snapback]
just thought of another possibility -

maybe like many of the fans, the chairman is starting to have some reservations about the manager. if this is the case i could see some logic in him deciding to keep the purse strings closed until christmas.

in the case of us continuing the solid start we had with our results against clyde and dunfermline, and being in a decent position by december, mcinally stays and is given a cash injection to bring in some new players to boost the squad for the run in.

on the other hand, if the strange tactical decisions and inconsistent performances continu[color="#FF0000"][/color]e and the team struggle in this division as a result of it, he sacks mcinally mid season and saves the money for the new boss to spend.

You seem to suggest that Shoogly is trying to shoehorn JM out, but he'd still have to pay the compensation come December, so why not punt him now?

The wicked plan ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif -keep the money in the cocoa tin while making an enormous hue and cry about failed signing bids.

Then, come December, the fans will realise that the benign Mr Rae has given his manager EVERY opportunity, before HAVING to 'reluctantly' let him go-with no ill feelings OF COURSE!!!
mortonjag 2007-08-31 06:31:15 While I agree with the previous poster in general terms about the logistics, I seriously worry about control of the club, lack of responsible delegation, and a reprehensible siege mentality towards all criticism.

If we sign no more players by midnight tonight, the fans have yet again been led up the garden path.

A good result tomorrow will certainly alleviate some of the current worries-I have said consistently that with two or three judicious signings we could be embracing promotion-that's HARDLY negativity, and it's what we were encouraged to believe.

When will this Chairman EVER make a statement of true intent?

I get the distinct impression that he wakes up every morning, scratches his head, and thinks-'What will I do today-it didn't quite go to plan yesterday'.

WHAT'S THE SCRIPT SHOOGLY?
mortonjag 2007-08-31 06:39:20
QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 31 2007, 12:09 AM) [snapback]325739[/snapback]
On Radio Scotland tomorrow night there is a progamme on from 10 till midnight detailing all the moves towards the end of the window.

I think Shoogly will be sitting up in bed with the tranny on, scoring names off a diminishing list-then-at the eleventh hour, he'll pick up the 'phone and calmly land the three best bargains of the season.

We shall have egg all over our faces.


I wish!
mortonjag 2007-08-31 06:49:14 We all do it-I was listening to 'Five Live' yesterday when they interviewed a lady who was representing a campaign for better literacy. She opened with 'Well, basically something has to be done, you know.... rolleyes.gif

You probably all have your pet hates-radio is worst because they have to talk constantly-yesterday some guy described the Indian bowlers as 'licking their lips at the prospect of new balls'!


Anyway, the point of this-I've come to detest the phrase


SPOUTING PISH
mortonjag 2007-08-31 06:57:31
QUOTE(dumbarTON @ Aug 31 2007, 06:50 AM) [snapback]325771[/snapback]
The daily record says we will sign 2 players by midnight

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mortonjag 2007-08-31 07:05:40 It's all been a bad dream-we've been behaving like spoiled brats when in fact everything's been sorted from day one.

I confidently predict that we'll hear nothing until 2.45 p.m. tomorrow afternoon.

I then fully expect Mr Rae to step onto our hallowed turf-microphone in hand-and introduce our three new players to a hushed and humbled Cappielow.

Let's keep believing in Santa Claus children.
mortonjag 2007-08-31 07:11:10
QUOTE(dumbarTON @ Aug 31 2007, 07:05 AM) [snapback]325774[/snapback]
ok so its not the best source laugh.gif but its a damn site better than the daily star dry.gif

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All they're saying is that they expect us to sign two players-now had they NAMED them at least that would have added an ounce of credibility while in no way guaranteeing accuracy!
mortonjag 2007-08-31 07:19:47
QUOTE(dumbarTON @ Aug 31 2007, 07:17 AM) [snapback]325777[/snapback]
and in other news morton have signed 2 under 12 players from east fife laugh.gif

Do you still have to shield your balls with lead every day?
mortonjag 2007-08-31 07:21:29
QUOTE(Andy M @ Aug 30 2007, 11:49 PM) [snapback]325733[/snapback]
Yes - there is a webcast with special guest Arthur Montford

The only webcast which isnt likely to go ahead is 22nd September - I'm away for that weekend sad.gif

Hmm-even Arthur's trying to dissociate himself from Shoogly on matchdays! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-31 07:33:46 Kaney-who thinks teenagers are spoiled brats

Van Morrison (Do you remember when.....we used to win) 62 today

Satan's Husband -who claims his letter from Lizzie's a year old today.

10 years since princess Diana died, and the Media have never stopped mourning laughing their way to the bank.
mortonjag 2007-08-31 08:02:09 I agree with you-there's much more football in Sanny than he gets credit for, and he's best when he's allowed to drift in and out of space.

As for McInally, I know it's early. I've always liked him and assume he's an excellent coach, but his lack of managerial experience and ability stuck out a mile last season.

He consistently played squad members out of position-Weatherson, Millar McAlister, McGregor, Finlayson, A.Walker, are the ones that spring to mind.

He seemed incapable of deciding on a fixed formation or team selection from one week to another.

Most of all for me, when it came to the crunch game against Peterhead (the one at Scapa) his team of full timers came out looking like lost wee boys, and he seemed incapable of motivating them when it mattered most.

I do hope I am wrong, and I realise that things in the background may have conspired against him, but I do not see Jim going far in football management, if he continues to perform as he did. (posted June 2006)




We need an experienced manager RIGHT NOW. IMO We'll win this league in spite of, not because of McInally.

We've got a squad of bright and talented youngsters running about like headless chickens, and I'm sick of it.



(posted August 2006)
mortonjag 2007-08-31 09:05:22
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Aug 31 2007, 08:53 AM) [snapback]325792[/snapback]
Sounds like Mortonjag's posts.

You've been eating my words-well seen I rarely have to eat my own ratarse!
mortonjag 2007-08-31 09:12:28
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 31 2007, 07:42 AM) [snapback]325782[/snapback]
[b]I don't think it is McInallys fault we have signed no one. [/b]

However... I would be dissapointed but still reckon we have enough to stay up.

We have 3 players to come back and the only team who has beaten us are top.

Obviously it will make our season a bit of a slog, but might as well make the most of it and pick up points where we can. Think Clyde and Livvy are doomed!! (both of whom we have beaten this season).

But it's his JOB to sign the players. I agree that we don't know what's been going on. If Jim's hands have been tied behind his back by that meddlesome old gentleman, and our manager hasn't the balls to stand up for himself-it's STILL his fault surely.

You can probably spot where this quotation comes from-

'We have had one or two disappointments in the transfer market in the past few weeks, but I can assure you that we will endeavour to add a couple of players to the squad over the next few weeks.

Any way moving on – we think the players that are already here are certainly due a chance and will be good enough to make the step up week in and week out in the First Division'
.

Clearly you agree with my concept of Shoogly and his glove puppet.
mortonjag 2007-08-31 09:18:13
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 31 2007, 09:07 AM) [snapback]325795[/snapback]
Thats what we are perceived as by our almighty benefactor . Whether you are one of the sweet innocents or one of the insolent little upstarts .
[b]We are all children[/b] . mad.gif

...who should be seen in hordes on a Saturday bringing along friends like the Pied Piper, but only heard when we chant 'Dougie Dougie-gie's a wave'.
mortonjag 2007-08-31 09:37:34
QUOTE(GMC @ Aug 31 2007, 09:34 AM) [snapback]325806[/snapback]
Chris Templeman is s***e.

PS He still is.

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That'll be a BIG sh*te I assume GMC!
mortonjag 2007-08-31 09:49:27
QUOTE(princessTON @ Aug 31 2007, 09:42 AM) [snapback]325811[/snapback]
Me to.

I'm beginning to be tempted, but I won't. From what I can gather this has something to do with ThornTON's predilection for half naked women knocking the stuffing out of each other in the name of sport.

That I regard as sad, but entirely understandable.
mortonjag 2007-08-31 09:51:18
QUOTE(princessTON @ Aug 31 2007, 09:50 AM) [snapback]325815[/snapback]
or half naked men. wink.gif

RLY!!!


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mortonjag 2007-08-31 09:56:03
QUOTE(GMC @ Aug 31 2007, 09:46 AM) [snapback]325812[/snapback]
http://www.inverclydenow.com/news-detail4.asp?ID=609

He doesn't sound too confident about getting 2 players in...or is he just keeping the cards close to his chest in case anything falls through again?

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80k and 'absolutely no joy' and 'frequently disappointed' just don't tie up.

Players just don't want to come to Cappielow-the grapevine's always active amongst sportsmen-and I guess we all know why.

We are now being sold down the river by our erstwhile saviour and his 'Yes' man IMO.
mortonjag 2007-08-31 10:02:14
QUOTE(princessTON @ Aug 31 2007, 09:37 AM) [snapback]325808[/snapback]
So can i if i stand on the roof. rolleyes.gif You must live near me then? unsure.gif

Are there quite a few slates missing?
mortonjag 2007-08-31 10:04:24
QUOTE(princessTON @ Aug 31 2007, 09:52 AM) [snapback]325818[/snapback]
Whatever floats his boat. tongue.gif

GOSH-I'd never have suspected it! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-31 10:14:07 The usual rumours, suggestions and speculation have started, and no doubt will get worse 'til next season finally kicks off.

Shoogly's not a Mileson in terms of cash, but I believe that getting to the SPL in one shot would rapidly return the books to the black for the club.

Surely DDFR wants that. It makes far more sense than scraping along in the 'first' for two or three seasons, and maybe never even getting to the SPL in his (or my) lifetime.

I just hope he 'goes for broke'. There is absolutely no reason why it can't be done IMO.

Posted May 2007 sad.gif sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-31 10:20:12
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 31 2007, 10:08 AM) [snapback]325832[/snapback]
Is there some reason why nobody seems to want to sign for us?

RAE
mortonjag 2007-08-31 11:12:11
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Aug 31 2007, 10:52 AM) [snapback]325855[/snapback]
I agree with this - hardly a disaster (although every last drop of negativity is being wrung by MJ and the moaners - hey , wasn't that a Motown supergroup "MJ and the Moaners" -if not it should've been !)

Anyway I digress, this is an interesting question Craigoton. Will posters spit the dummy and threaten to desert a ship (that's in no danger whatsoever of sinking) or will they stay loyal and look at the bigger picture. McInally deserves time and space to develop in the first Division.
Personally I believe that there may be a signing (or two) but as Redsox says in his own way ........... be coooool.

Mon the 'Ton (and McInally !)

Nope-I'm not having that cloth ears. I've said repeatedly that if we can have some honesty from Rae about our present and future plans we'll try to live with it. Given all his 'positive' noises in the past about our ambitions, all fans-NOT just the 'moaners' have been treated despicably.

You are the one who appears to be attempting to wring the last drop of credibility from a scenario which looks totally haphazard.

Now, if you can tell me and the other 'moaners' some more details of the master plan, I promise to try to understand.

If, as I suspect, there isn't one, I'd suggest you're the one making an arse of yourself.
mortonjag 2007-08-31 11:16:25
QUOTE(dumbarTON @ Aug 31 2007, 11:07 AM) [snapback]325870[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif indeed .unless you want two - headed babies huh.gif

Would they be allowed to play as strikers for the Ton-it would double our chances of connecting with that once in a blue moon cross!
mortonjag 2007-08-31 11:23:12
QUOTE(dumbarTON @ Aug 31 2007, 11:20 AM) [snapback]325882[/snapback]
huh.gif breed them with big sanny to create a super race laugh.gif tongue.gif

or big Stu and Ryan would just retire in total frustration?
mortonjag 2007-08-31 11:29:51
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Aug 31 2007, 11:14 AM) [snapback]325874[/snapback]
Sorry Nacho - Your audition for MJ and the Moaners has been unsuccessful due to your occasional positivity . You can however go and join the backing singers (and indeed , if we don't make any signings you can lead the Gospel choir which will be appearing in MJ's show for a couple of weeks !)

KTF

I gather our 'backing' group has backed out on God's instructions.

Would that ubiquitous duo 'Cornbeef and Mince' care to audition, or are their tongues too busy plumbing the dephths of Shoogly's arse?
mortonjag 2007-08-31 11:39:24
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Aug 31 2007, 11:32 AM) [snapback]325891[/snapback]
Ian Russells missus works as Thomas Cook cabin Crew and i asked her yesterday if hes wanting a move and she said and i quote......" he hates it up there and wants to move to your lot but the chairman isnt having it"...she confirmed we are interested but brechin aint for selling....They stay in linwood and he trains in glasgow during the week and travels up at weekends

Russell would do OK in Division one I believe.
mortonjag 2007-08-31 14:04:32
QUOTE(princessTON @ Aug 31 2007, 12:35 PM) [snapback]325937[/snapback]
the whole right side of my mouth is completely numb...i cant feel a thing!

Sounds pretty serious-can you wiggle your toes?
mortonjag 2007-08-31 14:15:37
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 31 2007, 01:09 PM) [snapback]325960[/snapback]
Seriously... I think Jim is doing a great job with the resources he has. His job is to work with the chairman / baord to identify realistic targets.
Obviously somewhere down the line that process is falling down and I don't think it's Jim's fault.

Morton have been fairly naive, naming targets before deals were tied up, letting agents get involved over our heads, the chairmans actions contradicting Jim's comments etc.

You could argue we have been unlucky... but it's happened too often.
You could also argue we have been ambitious... however can't fault that too much.
You could def argue we have not been street wise... whether it was bunging Sturm's agent, or making sure McGowan knew he would get an offer he couldn't refuse before he returned to Septic.

It's clear to see that clubs like Morton need a good 'salesman' fronting operations like this and sadly Dougie is not that type of guy. Can't fault his effort, commitment and money (which none of us have) but sadly it's not going right for him.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

He's spent his whole life SELLING, and every time I question his experience I'm told to stop spouting pish-'cos he's an extremely experienced and successful businessman who heads up a household name confectionery empire'. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-31 14:25:59
QUOTE(Mick @ Aug 31 2007, 12:53 PM) [snapback]325955[/snapback]
FFS, please don't do that. Kindly elaborate.

FFS man-sometimes I can't win-I've been elaborating for months and months-can you not read?

Greenock Morton = Douglas Rae

Do you think potential signings are stupid. I used to believe that it was JM who had an obsession with little boys, until the truth dawned. Anybody in Scottish football who's old enough to shave every second day has heard the script about the Cappielow Regime.

Only the youthful, naive, or brain damaged want to sign for a club where it's apparent that an 'old Jessie' not only rules the dressing room showing unharnessed favouritism, but also goes unchallenged by a feckless Manager who hasn't the wit or balls to say 'No' to him.
mortonjag 2007-08-31 14:38:42
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 31 2007, 02:32 PM) [snapback]326007[/snapback]
Your postings are becoming more and more ridiculous Doc blink.gif

Listen to me CLAYMORE C*CK-that's exactly what folk have been saying for the last year and a half.

Today I've posted again a couple of statements I made ages ago, but have spared others the embarrassment of incorporating their quotations.

This poor old soul sometimes wearies of unwarranted vilification, but plods on in the hope that the truth will ultimately penetrate thick bone.

Explain why you consider my statement ridiculous, and give me one solitary scrap of fact which you have to back yourself up.
mortonjag 2007-08-31 15:04:50
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 31 2007, 02:12 PM) [snapback]325992[/snapback]
It's the best thread on the board.

Mortonjag doesn't post on it biggrin.gif

Nor does anyone else whose mental age exceeds eight it would appear.
mortonjag 2007-08-31 15:11:07
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 31 2007, 02:40 PM) [snapback]326014[/snapback]
Calm down.

Maisano and (to a lesser extent) Williams were pet projects of one or more Board members and it was McInally's wish to see them punted.

One of our recent signing targets has said that he's impressed with McInally, and I can PM you who it is if you're interested.

Incidentally I'll pre-empt any attempt to try to make this sound like I'm trying to foist all the blame off McInally and defend him to the death - I'm not doing either of these.

I was highly impressed by my ex wife when I first met her.
mortonjag 2007-08-31 15:18:36
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 31 2007, 03:12 PM) [snapback]326031[/snapback]
So people aren't signing for Morton partially because the boss they're impressed with may not be impressive to them in future?

Don't be obtuse! laugh.gif

I'm merely demonstrating what's universally accepted-that first impressions are often deceptive. The fact that one player was 'impressed' by JM, means virtually nothing.

Had you stated something like-'I've spoken to over fifty people who have met Jim McInally repeatedly over the years, and to a man they cannot praise him highly enough', I might just have conceded the possibility of you having made a point. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-31 15:27:51
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Aug 31 2007, 03:18 PM) [snapback]326038[/snapback]
possibly

to be fair i can see where TAFKAC is coming from with this one. if being a football fan was purely about entertainment then surely we would all be following the rest of Inverclyde up to Glasgow on a Saturday.

In terms of value for money, for a few extra quid a week the OF offer the very best in "sports entertainment", with 1st class facilities, teams full of international players, victory almost every week, regular silverware, guaranteed european football every season, top quality merchandise from leading brands at the same price we pay for flawed second rate no-name tat, millions of pounds spent on transfers each time the window is open... need i go on?

Of course, we are all well aware of the things i mentioned above, yet we continue to faithfully follow the 'ton through thick and thin.

If we take this messageboard as a guage of how much "pleasure" or "entertainment" the average Morton fan gets, it makes pretty grim reading. I would estimate that 90% of the Morton-related posts on this forum are of a negative nature - moaning, complaining, criticising etc.

I would define my experience of supporting Morton(particularly in the past decade or so) as sustained periods of stress, worry and frustration, punctuated with rare glimpses of hope, and moments of joy

this, to my mind doesn't add up to entertainment or pleasure. The reason we stick with Morton is because we love them. That is the exact same reason why so many seem to be so critical or negative a lot of the time - its because we all want the best for Morton and don't like seeing decisions being made which harm the club we love.



Greacen-today I POSITIVELY love you-you may have a cyberkiss. wub.gif

There!
mortonjag 2007-08-31 15:33:46
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 31 2007, 03:22 PM) [snapback]326040[/snapback]
The absence of evidence to the contrary is not at all sufficient for your point to be any more correct than mine. In any case, on the one hand we have my evidence (the testimony of one player) and on the other hand we have your evidence (the testament of no players.)

If the impression of one player means virtually nothing then how do the impressions of no players speak volumes?

Nach0, would you be surprised if I told you that I do have information from more than one source to suggest that JM is a bit of a 'plank'?

One young player's initial impression of an ex International in his mid forties is, for me at least, of little significance on its own.
mortonjag 2007-08-31 15:35:49
QUOTE(Kluivert @ Aug 31 2007, 03:34 PM) [snapback]326046[/snapback]
James Grady. wink.gif

and?
mortonjag 2007-08-31 15:38:54
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Aug 31 2007, 03:35 PM) [snapback]326050[/snapback]
mj, we all know you dont have a lot of time for demented dougie.
give it a rest ffs

DEMENTED DOUGIE!!!


I've only ever had my suspicions Blue.

Anyhow no time like the present to highlight crass incompetence when we're all hurting so much-one decent game and most of the Board's weans return to never never land 'til the next crisis.
mortonjag 2007-08-31 15:41:20
QUOTE(Bryan @ Aug 31 2007, 03:39 PM) [snapback]326054[/snapback]
young rolleyes.gif

All professional footballers are young, Bryan! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-31 15:47:55
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 31 2007, 03:23 PM) [snapback]326041[/snapback]
I hope you're wrong and that GMFC will be posting a signing by 5pm, with a 2nd by about 9pm after his / her / Cappie's medical tongue.gif

Have faith Willow-apparently they had the GMFC computer's battery replaced at Kwik Fit today-so surely they MUST be about to give us news.
mortonjag 2007-08-31 16:04:23
QUOTE(Kluivert @ Aug 31 2007, 03:38 PM) [snapback]326052[/snapback]
Put two & two together,bearing in mind this is a rumours thread. tongue.gif

James Grady is about to sign for Arsenal as the are forced to comply with new ageism legislation?
mortonjag 2007-08-31 16:05:28
QUOTE(Bryan @ Aug 31 2007, 03:46 PM) [snapback]326057[/snapback]
not to me tongue.gif they are all near my age.

You certainly don't look a year older than Russell Latapy! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-08-31 16:08:51
QUOTE(big B @ Aug 31 2007, 03:55 PM) [snapback]326060[/snapback]
I will not be one of them but can you hear the knives getting sharpened for Dougie and Jim's back.

Neither will I big B. My signature reflects the nature of my armory.
mortonjag 2007-08-31 16:22:18
QUOTE(Rule Britannia @ Aug 31 2007, 04:10 PM) [snapback]326070[/snapback]
I have just been informed Iain Russel has just entered the ground with his agent. Don't shoot the messager but my pals mate said if it wasnt him, he must have a twin brother.

Our thoughts are with the family.
mortonjag 2007-08-31 16:24:16
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Aug 31 2007, 04:11 PM) [snapback]326072[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Aug 31 2007, 03:55 PM) [snapback]326060[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I will not be one of them but can you hear the knives getting sharpened for Dougie and Jim's back.

So we wont hear mortonjag sharpening his knife - well I suppose that's because it is as sharp as it is ever likely to get already

Scalpel to you ya tadger, and we use a NEW blade every time.
mortonjag 2007-08-31 16:28:32
QUOTE(Canton @ Aug 31 2007, 04:19 PM) [snapback]326080[/snapback]
Had a look down at Cappielow today to see if there was any activity on my way past on the train. Seen a young guy with blonde hair with what looked like his agant heading into Cappielow. Looked like Ian Russell but not sure. Defo looked like someone there to sign. Fingers crossed!

Footballers change their hair more than bloody women-it was probably Gowsa and his lawyer looking for that last pay cheque.
mortonjag 2007-08-31 16:31:07
QUOTE(northseaton @ Aug 31 2007, 04:28 PM) [snapback]326090[/snapback]
Russell of Brechin signs for 40 K

40k


is that it then?
mortonjag 2007-09-01 05:55:06 Four weeks into a new season, we have secured the services of two competent strikers.

Prior to this we shipped 5 points in 4 matches, and seemed to be going absolutely nowhere on the signing front.

I don't believe that even the most enthusiastic of JM, or Shoogly fans would have suggested TWO strikers, while at the same time ignoring our defensive vulnerabilities.

ALL seemed agreed by the end of last season that we needed desperately a 'Midfield General'-someone who'd been around the block, and had kudos, maturity, and ability to motivate our youngsters.

We've been repeatedly told that the signing targets had been identified-that we should not criticise hard work behind the scenes, and that 'all would be well'.

All is far from well IMO.

For me, nothing that has happened in the last twenty four hours alters in the slightest my previously held opinions on the 'Shoogly Show'.

Really folks, I give you it


TWO F*CKING STRIKERS AND NOTHING ELSE



I'd suggest that borders on insanity.
mortonjag 2007-09-01 06:51:51
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 31 2007, 04:49 PM) [snapback]326140[/snapback]
Patronising as always Mortonjag, completely true to form.

The sort of fan who lays into the club at every turn and is smug about it, just what we need eh? rolleyes.gif

it's certainly NOT what Shoogly wants-I agree! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-01 07:38:50
QUOTE(Tinton @ Sep 1 2007, 07:14 AM) [snapback]326614[/snapback]
We needed a striker of that I am sure and we got two, one who has proved to be prolific (Russell) and while I know nothing of the other (Gardyne) I have read on here from those who do that he is a decent player. Having read what Jim McInally said it is not yet over in the signing from as we can still bring in players on loan.

It would not be possible, irrespective of what they did, for Mr Rae and Jim McInally to satisfy some posters on here. The board has been peppered with comments about the need for a striker to partner Templeman and to free Stevenson to play in his best role in centre midfield. Now we have what was wanted we are saying that’s not what we wanted.

What is being missed here as the transfer window closes is that we have brought in at least three players that strengthen our squad (being Russell, Shields and McAnespie) and a couple of other that gives us some depth. Couple with that the fact that apart from McGowan we haven’t lost anyone that I’m disappointed to lose from last year’s squad despite rumours of McAlister moving to Motherwell. Is our defence that bad? We didn’t ship many goals last season and while this is a tougher league I believe they are adequate to secure us mid table by the end of the season.

Douglas Rae comes in for heavy criticism and is the victim of harsh sarcasm. He is criticised for not getting his hand in his pocket and then criticised for making to too well know that he will spend money. I am only too well aware of the level of dislike of the chairman, maybe he interferes too much, maybe he make the wrong decisions sometime but one thing is for sure he is a supporter of Morton. He puts a lot of his own money into Morton every year so if you want him out so badly who will you get to replace Douglas Rae’s financial commitment to Morton? I remember we had a chairman before who was disliked and lambasted by the fans, then we got Hugh Scott.

Tinton, much of what you say makes sense to me.

What still misses me completely is the apparent change of heart at Cappielow with no honesty about it.

I have NEVER criticised Mr Rae for buying the club, and for almost five seasons sincerely believed that he fully intended to get us to the SPL as soon as possible. There has been adequate published evidence to support that view.

It's become painfully clear to me that HE is the very reason that we are failing to achieve HIS ambition. That is extremely sad.

I am not the only poster who believes that he is pathologically incapable of delegation, that JM's hands are (willingly) tied, and that Shoogly sincerely believes he can do no wrong-scathingly attacking HIS critics.

There is no need for him to go-he simply needs to sit back, retaining his 'investment' in the club, and appoint somebody to run it properly.

I'd suggest that anybody who describes that last statement as 'negative pish'-the standard comment on everything I post, really needs to take a reality check.


I have consistently emphasised that Linn, Templeman and Weatherson are all competent goalscorers-McInally confirming that the latter is the best striker at the club. Almost all posters have agreed we have deficiencies in defence, and require an experienced player to motivate our youngsters-that was GLARINGLY obvious last season, and even this season at Dundee where we simply looked lost.

Signing two young strikers four weeks into a season, and minutes before the transfer window closed simply bespeaks last minute panic buying-irrespective of how good they may prove to be.

Rae, of course, will now have us believe he's performed miracles, and expect us to salivate expectantly, when he's simply papered over huge cracks.

Do YOU, Tinton, know what the PLAN is for this season? If so I'd love you to spell it out for me and nominate the originator.
mortonjag 2007-09-01 07:45:40 LEAVES Russell.
mortonjag 2007-09-01 07:48:50 I am entirely dissatisfied that we've seen fit to sign TWO strikers-we had 40k left from the Gowsa budget. Gardyne may be a good wee player, but yesterday he was simply a cover for a 'cop out' from responsibility to get things sorted weeks ago.
mortonjag 2007-09-01 08:08:05
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 31 2007, 10:59 PM) [snapback]326504[/snapback]
Absolutely ridiculous to say it's money poured down the drain before he's even played a match. Iain Russell got the player of the year ahead of all of our players last season, he scored more goals than all of our players last season (while playing for '2nd division minnows')and consistently scores against us.

LargsTON didn't say Russell's a bad player as far as I can see.

I'd word it differently-the lack of a proper youth policy for several seasons deprives us of home grown talent. The wantonly dismissive management of Stan Webster's offer threw that into high relief.

We therefore HAVE to attract players one way or another, yet it's been painfully obvious that very few want to join the Shoogly show.

Four games into a season littered with injuries and noted for patchwork sides Rae HAD to do something-there was NO choice. His ego is too big, and face had to be saved yesterday, so he splashed 40k on Russell.

The signing will hopefully bring us all some pleasure-he's one of the best poachers I've watched for many years, and we DO need a striker, finisher, poacher, but the build up to, and manner of his signing, can quite reasonably be described as 'pouring cash down a drain' IMO. With a modicum of prudent housekeeping and forward planning, the money could still be in the bank.
mortonjag 2007-09-01 09:03:55
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 31 2007, 11:27 PM) [snapback]326528[/snapback]
As Morton supporters one and all except those from Pishley who infiltrate the board during our low points .
Over the last few months I have become aware of a growing problem on the boards . It is the need by some who feel they can dictate who should or more overly who are no longer wanted at Cappielow or travel to watch that which we all share in common .
I would ask that no matter how outrageous or outspoken a post please can we have an end to this draconian request .
There are plenty of concerns that I share that some do not , that my friends is lifes rich tapestry . Surely we come on to share our thoughts and feelings , vent frustrations and just be downright stupid . We all have opinions that differ but this should never lead for anyone to make comments about peoples commitment to the club .
I hope we can all agree to end this unnecessary unpleasantness to each other.

THEY started it! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-01 09:21:19
QUOTE(Tinton @ Sep 1 2007, 12:09 AM) [snapback]326554[/snapback]
There is nothing in my first post about abuse directed from you Toby, only a note that anybody who supports the current management is generally described as a f*d or whatever. My last post was to TounTon where he mentions juvenile pish. What TaunTon posted proves that anyone who post any view that differs from the antiestablishment of Morton will have to endure personal abuse from some quarter. I think he proves my first post that any view supporting the current management of Morton will receive personal abuse.

Tinton I take it you're new to our 'rag'. The truth is that the swing in opinion has been very recent, and until the end of last season the 'ENDURING OF PERSONAL ABUSE' as you describe it, was applicable to anyone who dared to criticise the 'establishment'.

It tends to work a bit like this-

Somebody criticises Douglas Rae-giving reasons for the criticism, and examples to back it up, while stating that he's offering an opinion.

He's immediately ATTACKED for daring to call the Chairman in question, with feeble stories of Mr Rae's unequalled business nous, and not one shred of counter evidence.

More or less 'Listen mate, he f*ckin saved us so 'shut it'.


With JM it's slightly different, but the ultimate refuge of posters who cannot win the argument is to accuse his critics of personal vendettas, and of 'wanting us to lose' to discredit him. The 25% of posters who stuck by their guns throughout the long running 'Taxi for McInally' thread were individually subjected to a fair bit of 'personal'-do yourself a favour and read it from beginning to end!

You can also have a belly laugh at the fickle ones who turned on him straight after the away game at Stirling, but swung back as promotion looked more certain.
mortonjag 2007-09-01 09:31:05 Things have not gone well for Bobby since he signed, and he must feel that this has 'put the tin lid on it'.

'Miscarriages' don't occur late in pregnancy-that term trivialises the loss of a wee 'bundle of joy' for Bobby and his partner.

I hope they have plenty of support from those who are best able to help. Those things often take a long time to heal.
mortonjag 2007-09-01 09:36:37
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 1 2007, 09:18 AM) [snapback]326636[/snapback]

YOU REALLY ARE A NOB!

rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-01 09:39:18
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 1 2007, 09:30 AM) [snapback]326638[/snapback]
Gardyne's apparently a left-sided midfielder.

Ridiculous that we didn't strengthen - or at least provide cover for - more central and defensive aspects of the team, though.

Anything I've read about his play in the last couple of seasons indicates he's regarded as a striker Nach0, though he started his career in midfield.

He incidentally comes from the 'City of Discovery'-JM's adopted home, and of course was one of our manager's proteges at Celtic.
mortonjag 2007-09-01 09:43:33 Despite my serious reservations about the long term wisdom of our new signings, I expect the boys to be upbeat today.

PROVIDED JM is willing to play attacking football and go for it, we can easiliy win this by two goals, and Russell's a dead cert for one.
mortonjag 2007-09-02 05:55:56
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 1 2007, 05:24 PM) [snapback]326838[/snapback]
Can't believe we didn't take anything from that game.

Pleased with pretty much everything apart from the result.
Queens really clinging on at the end, but alas was def not our day.

Should have had two pens in the 1st half! Russell tripped and then clear handball a min later.

Also - Queens lucky not to have two men sent off for seperate last man incidents which the ref could have got his red card out for.

New signings look great. Bobby Linn was lively enough also.

Plenty positives to take from a narrow defeat. Finlayson, best ever game in a Morton shirt!! More of the same please.

I quite enjoyed the game too, little one. If we'd had a better defence we would probably have won.
mortonjag 2007-09-02 06:01:15
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 1 2007, 05:53 PM) [snapback]326857[/snapback]
Better performance than last week - wouldn't be hard.
Players did well but were let down from the start by the incompetent buffoon in the dugout.
Two wee guys up front - "let's play wingers and put in lots and lots of crosses!" huh.gif
Midfield was virtually non-existent: when keenan got the ball he did well but there was little protection for the tits at the back.
Weatherson ought to have been pushed into midfield, and then up front near the end.
JM did neither. dry.gif
For the record, I make it roughly 330 minutes without a goal? unsure.gif



The term Buffoon is used to define someone who provides amusement through inappropriate appearance and/or behavior. Strictly, a buffoon describes a "ridiculous, but nevertheless amusing person." In the broad terms, a buffoon is a clownish, publicly amusing person, such as a court jester. In the more modern sense, the term is frequently used in a derogatory sense to describe someone considered a public fool, or someone whose inappropriately vulgar, bumbling, or ridiculous behavior is a source of general amusement

It wasn't THAT funny!
mortonjag 2007-09-02 06:10:32
QUOTE(TheGreatestEver @ Sep 2 2007, 03:47 AM) [snapback]327208[/snapback]
Are you out there MORTONFAG??

You know nothing.

That is all.

MortonFAG?

I'd be raging if there was a poster with a name like mine son-you must be dreaming.

Good post mind-keep up the good work! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-02 06:16:09
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 1 2007, 02:13 PM) [snapback]326784[/snapback]
The signings we made this close season are

McAnespie - seems a decent player but has been injured a lot. I hope thats bad luck and not a recurring theme. He's not the foot on the ball midfield general we wanted but a decent signing nonetheless.

Shields - one of the catches of the summer in my opinion and he will hopefully get a longer contract come Xmas. Well pleased with this one.

McGeoch - looks like he will be one for the future - don't know enough about him.

Coakley - at best a squad player and I can't help but think we must be missing something in this signing. Not one I would have gone for.

Russell - second division player of the year and scorer of nearly a goal a game for Brechin. Probably the most effective striker available from the lower leagues and should easily cut it in the first. Good signing in my opinion

Michael Gardyne - don't know enough about this boy to form an opinion but he's left sided which we need comes highly recommended by Ross County fans and a few Celtic fans on P & B. May well be a decent signing.

Robinson - looks an excellent young keeper and I very much prefer him to Mathers.

So, it seems to me that we lost McGowan, Mathers and Ryan Russell. Apart from McGowan, our replacements are easily better than those departing. Overall, we have at least 5 decent players in replacing 2 out so its not such a bad result.

The summer though has poor as the club has undoubtedly mismanaged the fans expectations in various ways and in so doing, have managed to turn it into a disappointment overall whereas with a bit of decent PR it could feel so much better.

'With a bit of decent PR'

Don't you mean 'With even the vaguest hint of an attempt at PR'?

You are, of course, correct.
mortonjag 2007-09-02 06:19:36
QUOTE(C B @ Sep 1 2007, 06:54 PM) [snapback]326947[/snapback]
Who'd have thought Russell and Gardyne were bought in to replace Templeman and Stevenson blink.gif

Only JM could have thought up that one mad.gif

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mortonjag 2007-09-02 06:27:31 What's the point?

We're NOT aiming for promotion-only an old fool like myself could have been blind enough to trust and believe in Rae for so long, so we really DO have to 'consolidate' if we are to establish ourselves as a good first division side.

Gowsa/Lennon deals are never consolidation in terms of 'building' --something we're assured the 'Board has been committed to for over a year'.

Mind you he would be exciting to watch and might pull in a few bob more through the gates!
mortonjag 2007-09-02 06:39:00
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Sep 1 2007, 11:14 PM) [snapback]327129[/snapback]
Spot on

Gibby, why are you all so quiet about this sort of thing?

If that be true it's f***in' outrageous.

'Mr Rae, there's been an offer of electronic 'subs' boards from one of those fans groups'.


'Electronic subs Gillian-never heard of them'.


'No, Mr Rae, those wee boards that they hold up at the dug out when they're swapping players over-they light up electronically you see'.


'AH-a brilliant idea Gillian, I'm sure we could get 'Millions' to light up in all different colours round the edges, and bring on all the subs in every game'.

'Erm Mr Rae-they want to put their own tinsy, tinsy wee logo at the very bottom'.


...cough...'There's no sugar in this coffee AGAIN Gillian-how many times.....

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mortonjag 2007-09-02 06:43:30
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Sep 1 2007, 08:31 PM) [snapback]327046[/snapback]
sorry tonsilitis. i didn't realise it had been in the tele. i thought you'd posted something that you'd heard which i thought was a private matter. i should've read your post properly.

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mortonjag 2007-09-02 06:50:29
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 1 2007, 06:35 PM) [snapback]326911[/snapback]
FFS! Did people honestly think we were going to win games week in and week out? We have went up to a division, a division which is our rightful place. We have no god given right to win every week.

The team played well today, our strikers inability to put the ball into the net was the problem. Unless McInally snuck on at half time and replaced Bobby Linn I can't see what else he could have done. Even Templemen - while creative - was not looking like much of a threat once he came on.

Stuck in a time warp Puggs?

I'm sure 'Leafy' would have gladly poked two or three in yesterday if the tactics had provided the supply he needs. Possibly if we'd had a big tall guy-say about 6' 6" who could knock down long balls to him-but then we don't have that, or a creative midfielder to slip him the odd through ball-remember that guy Stevenson we once had!!!

Aye right- sorry Puggs-our defence was found a wee bit wanting yesterday-a superb reflex save kept it down to one, but our experienced midfield general played an absolute blinder, or was Neil McFarlane wearing yellow?

To get back to the poll-I've got to the stage where I hardly care any more. I quite enjoyed much of yesterday's game-heaps better than 'grinding out results', and I'm pretty resigned to the fact that Sugar Daddy hasn't a scooby where were heading, so for the time being I'll try to take it one game at a time.
mortonjag 2007-09-02 07:05:09
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 1 2007, 11:30 PM) [snapback]327141[/snapback]
WeegieTon not Weegieton or WeegieTON.
Thank you wink.gif

Mortonjag

NOT

Mortonfag
Mentaljag
Moronjag
Moronfag
F*D
CNUT
C*NT
NOB
F*NNY
D*CK


I won't even start to list the nasty ones! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-02 07:15:44
QUOTE(HamCam @ Sep 1 2007, 07:50 PM) [snapback]327014[/snapback]
I should start by saying I am continually astounded and delighted that DDFR puts his hand in his pocket to buy players for the club. No other club with the odd exception in the SPL have benefited from such a generous owner. I do have concerns over how he deals with other matters at the club but on the issue of putting up money for transfers I cannot believe any supporter is not grateful

What is it though that when Morton sign players they go from being the stand-outs in their former team to frustrating inconsistent players for us ?

Leaving aside the ned that is Alex Williams consider how talents such as Weatherson, Templeman, Linn and Stevenson have performed since they arrived. Dominant players at their previous clubs and always a thorn in our side when we played them. They should form the backbone of a very talented Morton team but all too often they seem to under-perform.

Weatherson was signed as a striker and started out as a worldbeater before becoming anonymous in attack. Managers do not seem to know where his best position is and the top scorer in our team plays in the backline! At times he still shines but do you not think there is so much more potential.

Templeman was the top player in the Second Division for Brechin but all too often for us he runs about like a donkey (sorry Dave) and never looks like being one of the top scorers in the league.

Linn was signed because........ Nonetheless constant threat at Peterhead who never seems to have started his career at Morton.

Stevenson is the latest victim. Ran the show at Alloa week in week out but for us all too often fails to stamp his mark on the game.

Important issue for us as a club as we have signed these lads on long term contracts and need them to start justifying the transfer fee.

Is it we expect too much ? Is life easier at other clubs with 'lower' expectations ? Is it the fans fault as has been suggested ?

My own view is that we do expect too much too soon but there has to be more to it. Has to help selecting players in their favoured positions but for some reason successive managers do not agree.

Does my head in.

I've commented on this mysterious syndrome many times Capricok-my take tends to be that rather than being fazed by expectation, talent is snuffed out by poor man management, and inappropriate use.

I've also commented that older players don't stay for long-McLaren, Mathers, and Lilley didn't hang about.

Could it be that there is a wee bit of resentment in the squad-maybe they want to be allowed to grow up instead of having their every move dictated by JM and dissected by God in his Programme notes.
mortonjag 2007-09-02 07:25:16
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 1 2007, 07:23 PM) [snapback]326974[/snapback]
Aye, was spot on.

People calling for McInally to go is a symptom of these forums which give people the chance to voice their opinions.

It is also crazy talk! Morton would be the laughing stock of Scottish Football once again if they gave Jim the boot.

Your naivety never fails to astonish me!

Cosgrove has no right to-dare I say-'SPOUT PISH' about something of which he only has passing knowledge, yet the vast majority of listeners will say-'Oh that must be right' just because it was on the wireless!!! rolleyes.gif

People are entitled to call it just exactly as they please, little one.

IF we sacked JM now (and I'm not saying we should) and a new manager had us top of the league by Christmas-aye- we'd be the laughing stock of Scottish Football for sure.
mortonjag 2007-09-02 07:34:45 'Fraid it's the same old story week in, week out-we win and JM is master tactician, we lose and he's crap.


One month into LAST season I stated that we'd get promotion in spite of the Manager.

This season we'll escape relegation in spite of the Manager.

He came with absolutely NO managerial experience, and from day one has been spoiled for choice with players and facilities well ahead of the pack.

Promotion has inevitably brought the chickens home to roost-Jim is doing his best-I'm convinced we'll escape relegation, and see some really exciting games in the process.

It could have been different.
mortonjag 2007-09-02 07:51:00
QUOTE(Magic Mathie @ Sep 2 2007, 02:25 AM) [snapback]327198[/snapback]
Personally, I'm happy enough with McInally (I'm easily pleased) but for those that want him hung, drawn & quartered who would you want in his place?

Please keep it realistic...no Gordon Strachans or Big Sadies!

I don't see the need to draw and quarter him-he's only doing his best!

My answer-ANYBODY who has a proven record of man management and producing results from relatively poor resources. There are plenty of guys around, but the minute I name anybody I'll be torn to shreds simply because the majority of our board's myopic infants can't see that loads of guys in Divisions two and three are doing FAR better than JM in relative terms.

Neil Watt (there, I've done it), will probably have Ayr near the top at the end of the season, and wee Moore's not doing too bad with the Binos.

Once you get your head over the 'Everything at Morton MUST be better than the rest' mentality, the horizon rapidly broadens.
mortonjag 2007-09-02 07:58:25
QUOTE(c***ney_Reject @ Sep 2 2007, 02:31 AM) [snapback]327200[/snapback]
Well said. Everyone is scared these days of being labeled a racist so they hide behind all this fake PC bollocks. I'm white and have been called a white b*****d before in parts of Glasgow and to be honest, it doesnt offend me atall, if someone thinks I'm a b*****d then so be it and I happen to be white so white b*****d is probably the right thing to call me. It doesnt make you a racist if you string the words black and b*****d together, if you are annoyed at someone who is fat you call them a fat b*****d, so why is there such a shock horror when people say the same about someone who is black.

You are of course correct CR, though in even saying that I shall promptly be accused of stirring undertones of negative pish and bile in an attempt to catalyse racism. That, and of course being a proactive Nazi! laugh.gif

Everything should be seen in context-I'm not ashamed to admit that I've called several of my friends 'brown b*****ds', and (in the case of Alex Sackefio) a 'black c*nt' on more than one occasion just to wind them up.

I refuse to publicise what THEY have called me! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-02 08:04:29
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 2 2007, 02:36 AM) [snapback]327202[/snapback]
Where did I say Largston said he was a 'bad player'? I commented on his opinion that he was money poured down the drain. Not the same thing is it?

You (and Largston) may think he may prove to be a waste of money but if he goes on to score a barrow load of goals he wont be. I'm not saying he will or wont. Just that it's absurd to decide that he's a waste of money before he's had a chance to prove himself.
I wouldn't disagree with that but, to me, it certainly isn't clear that that was what you were implying in your post. I'd say that you didn't make yourself clear rather than me misunderstanding you, again.

So you agree with LargsTON.
mortonjag 2007-09-02 08:07:25 Those wee games can be good fun, but frankly have little relevance.

We have a talented squad-I'm sure I could post six or seven line ups capable of doing reasonably well if other factors were addressed.

Team lists don't win games.
mortonjag 2007-09-02 08:08:59
QUOTE(TheGreatestEver @ Sep 2 2007, 04:00 AM) [snapback]327211[/snapback]
What a f***ing pecker MORONFAG is.

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oooooohh Stan Webster's amazing. He's the next Arsene Wenger.

What are your othe screen names? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-02 08:16:41
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 1 2007, 07:45 PM) [snapback]327006[/snapback]
Think I know what you're getting at and I think the messageboard is to blame.

People seem to think that as they've posted it on here, it becomes a reality. When in reality it's just a forum.

Because there's a forum for people to air their opinions, people do. Previously without said forum, no one really knew what the consensus is and as a result I think fans were generally not as 'egotistical' etc and you didn't get the same level of 'arsehole-ness'.

Fortunately at Cappielow you can move along a bit to avoid said smarmy bast@rds!


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Having bought my first ever season ticket, I can assure you that the four or five distinctly elderly (even by my standards) gentlemen within earshot, who regularly indulge in this kind of behaviour, have probably never used a computer.

Keep posting your opinions though-people are free to express themselves here, AND at football matches.
mortonjag 2007-09-02 08:22:32
QUOTE(Mags @ Sep 1 2007, 07:42 PM) [snapback]326999[/snapback]
I couldn't even get in !!
Phoned Cappielow to ask if we could get in at half time as my son was playing football in Glasgow.
Was told no, as the gates close at 3:05 and don't open till about 4:30.

Have since heard that they let guys in just after 4pm mad.gif
Mags.

Send a personal e-mail to Shoogly with a note of your son's favourite confection. I'm sure he will be happy to sweet talk you with another of his perpetual pachydermatous blandishments, Mags. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-02 08:24:42
QUOTE(Newsboy @ Sep 2 2007, 08:03 AM) [snapback]327237[/snapback]
That old favourite, eh?

..and your point IS? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-02 08:31:16
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Sep 2 2007, 08:25 AM) [snapback]327247[/snapback]
WillowMan

NOT

Willowoman tongue.gif

Williewoman-now THERE'S a thing Willow!
mortonjag 2007-09-02 08:40:16 Personally I'm actually basically posting, in all honesty, at this moment in time, because I've got f*ck all to say.
mortonjag 2007-09-02 08:42:07
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Sep 2 2007, 08:35 AM) [snapback]327250[/snapback]
Shemale blink.gif

Handbagbaws?
mortonjag 2007-09-02 08:47:34
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 2 2007, 08:43 AM) [snapback]327254[/snapback]
Looks like someone reads this site. Polis kept a close eye on the area of the shed yesterday but the offenders where not in attendance (at least not in the same location).

Credit where its due to the plod, looks like this was going to be nipped in the bud.

Still seem to have the problem with stewards munching and drinking while they are working and I was told a steward was overheard boasting about his days 'takings' at the turnstyles.

Get the polis on to these theiving b*****ds.

At half time as I went down to the lavvy from the stand there were two polis (a male and female) just at the top of the stairs. He was sooking his Capri Sun and she was getting beasted into her bag of crisps.

I don't really mind, but I hope they didn't get their uniforms soiled.
mortonjag 2007-09-02 08:52:49
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Sep 2 2007, 08:48 AM) [snapback]327258[/snapback]
At Ten Paces tongue.gif

Mincymanlypaces
mortonjag 2007-09-07 07:23:57 I'm just wondering if the immortal words-

'Peter is the best striker at the club-if he was fitter he wouldn't be here', are about to be replaced by-

'Jamie is the best midfielder at the club-if I was brighter I could join in the chat at Alan Maitland's coffee mornings'. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-07 07:26:00
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Sep 3 2007, 02:06 PM) [snapback]327969[/snapback]
i wish i lived in belgium and didn't have to watch the joke football that mcinally serves us up every week. smile.gif

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mortonjag 2007-09-07 07:26:51
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 3 2007, 07:48 PM) [snapback]328144[/snapback]
Does that not show the ineptitude of the man when VT seems to outsmart him .
I am surprised you have picked on the subject of age as if you remember our manager is a firm believer of ignoring experience in favour of youth . rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2007-09-07 07:29:32
QUOTE(Edinton @ Sep 4 2007, 01:46 PM) [snapback]328532[/snapback]
If this wasn't a democracy I'd close all of those threads down... I can see your point but I fear it may simply encourage 'them' dry.gif

Thank f*ck we have a decent manager.


OOPS
mortonjag 2007-09-07 07:33:12
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Sep 3 2007, 08:54 PM) [snapback]328211[/snapback]
Well here we are, Morton FC, September 3rd 2007. Five weeks into our FIRST Division One campaign since season 2000/2001, a year where we just missed out on going out of business, folding forever. After SIX testing years in the lower leagues we have come back to "where we belong" right now.

An angry, baying and damaging group of Morton supporters, who seem to have lost their understanding of that word "supporter" are, with a worrying degree of glee, ripping this team they support to shreds. Giving nobody at the club a chance and ignoring what, to most clubs - clubs who after a few years developing are NOW pushing for promotion - has been a promising start. Year One back in this league remember!

We have JUST came into this division people, if your expecting a title push of Gretna proportions then stop going to the games now, you will be disappointed. We could well be fighting it out for 7th place, I'm sure we won't but it could happen.

Too many self-confessed "fans" are giving this club less than a chance here. A perfectly acceptable start to what is our inaugural season in Division One, that's how it should be treated, with respect. It's a tough league and we are the team who won Division Two last year, a tough league!

If you are one of the folk mumping and moaning about McInally being inept and that he should be sacked and that we aren't good enough then I feel you are being unrealistic and out of order. You are the sort of fan who gets his or her release from being negative and letting other people hear about it, it's seriously sad and nobody respects it.

We are NOT Gretna, we are NOT a RICH club. We will be in this league for two/three/maybe four seasons and that will be no bad thing. Too much too soon would be disasterous for Morton, disasterous! When we get up to the top flight, we want to be staying there!

I don't care if you are a person who watched them play for seven seasons in the old Premier Division under Benny Rooney or further back than that during Hal Stewart's era or if you are one of those lucky people who rightly are letting the younger generations know that you had the joy of watching Andy Ritchie and have been a fan for decades. If you are one of those people, young or old, who I'm talking about, who refuse to give this club a chance after little over a month in this league and don't realise the true situation here, that we have made a good start after a tiny 5 GAMES OUT OF 36, then you need to put a sock in it, think and get real! You are embarrassing your club and most of your fellow supporters!

Another stupid comment bookmarked for the future!

How are the profits at Golden Casket those days BTW? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-07 07:37:06
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 3 2007, 09:28 PM) [snapback]328245[/snapback]
And you my son, need to have a little regard for other people's opinions. If you are only sixteen, let me tell you, you've got a lot to say for yourself and as you grow up, you will realise that others are entitled to an opinion and sometimes you might even be wrong. If you are someone masquerading as a sixteen year old, grow up!

The reality is that Mortonbug has made the best post I've seen on here for months. He is right, the sack McInally/Rae brigade really don't have a grasp on reality. This is the Scottish second tier and its about Morton's level as a club. We are not Inter Milan or Man Utd and maybe some peoples thoughts have to be put in that context. We have started better than all bar two clubs and on Saturday, there was promise there which the majority saw. On here we get the virulent, vindictive minority, some who have personal issues, becoming the majority apparently in shouting for the managers head.

Well you are only the majority because some of us are sick of your tripe and don't respond any more because we only get abuse like being called a patronising c*nt by a sixteen year old who has'nt been watching football long enough to have anything near the big picture.

It all makes me sick


Goodbye!

Oh Dear-even the phantom sax blower of old Greenock town's getting his knickers in a twist because some kid calls it as he sees it. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-07 07:41:12
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Sep 3 2007, 10:27 PM) [snapback]328310[/snapback]
Excellent post, at last some sense posted on this forum.

Then why don't you get more involved Professor? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-07 07:49:13 Three types of opinion on this thread.

Those who call it as they see it-and are willing to be repeatedly crucified for their valid opinions.

Those who can't bear seeing criticism of anything 'Morton'.

Those in the middle who have scorch marks on their arses.
mortonjag 2007-09-07 07:54:08
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Sep 5 2007, 11:36 AM) [snapback]329156[/snapback]
Billy Reid is also a better manager. He's had Clyde and now Hamilton punching well above their weight.

Billy Reid was the UNDER THIRTEENS coach at Hamilton six years ago. The chairman, it seems, had a litle vision!
mortonjag 2007-09-07 07:57:56
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 5 2007, 07:36 PM) [snapback]329302[/snapback]
That's a terrible post. Jim McInally is a professional who played at the highest level. To suggest just cause he's on a rolling contract he wouldn't bother his arse is just shocking.

Jim is one of the most professional managers we've had in a long time at Morton. You're JTT comments also arise my suspicions that the McInally haters are closet huns.

WOW


In a different context, Dr Shipman was too,
mortonjag 2007-09-07 08:01:11
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 6 2007, 04:35 AM) [snapback]329430[/snapback]
Saved me typing that out.

Allan Evans
I'm not a McInally 'hater', I don't want him sacked and I'm not saying I agree with calling him Jim the Tim but I know some of the people on this thread and they certainly aren't closet huns.

Is it permissible to suggest he may be regarded by a small minority as

JIM THE DIM?
mortonjag 2007-09-07 08:09:17
QUOTE(Edinton @ Sep 6 2007, 06:01 PM) [snapback]329674[/snapback]
That's an absurd post. blink.gif
Can we pack in ALL the Old Firm/sectarian related slanders/nicknames/whatever please?! They're very boring and frankly have no place on a messageboard dedicated to Greenock Morton Football Club. I'm also sick of having to act on complaints everytime something like this is mentioned.

Oh Mr Mod-SURELY you knew fine well what you were taking on-we're a Greenock based club, and the board is full of griping children.

Mind you I do empathise.

I could freshen things up a bit by complaining to you every time I am vilified by somebody less than half my age with an apparently helium filled cranium. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-07 08:24:34 Just a wee thought for Auld Shoogly.

If we lose this one we'll have probably made a net LOSS out of this pathetic competition.

Meanwhile Dundee have a plum tie with one of the OF, in the CIS cup.

I STILL cannot understand why so few posters saw our miserable demise at Dens Park as being insignificant.
mortonjag 2007-09-07 08:31:59
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 5 2007, 08:58 PM) [snapback]329355[/snapback]
He's got an assistant to take the fag in and out. wink.gif

Just happened on this thread-JM, it appears, has an assistant who physically inserts and removes his fag.

FFS, in my day fags were fags.
mortonjag 2007-09-07 08:45:03
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ May 18 2007, 07:25 PM) [snapback]274816[/snapback]
I have great faith in the human spirit and I have great faith in Morton supporters to rally round when times get hard.

So how about doing your bit to help find Maddie. You can donate a £1 by text and you never know hopefully Maddie will be found and you can feel good about yourself into the bargain.
http://www.findmadeleine.com/

Dr McCann, I understand, has been interviewed by Portuguese Police for 11 hours and is about to be named as a formal 'suspect'.

Mr McCann, her husband, will be interviewed today.

Assuming their innocence, I'd have absolutely no faith in the spirit of the Portuguese Police.

My understanding of humanity, however, sadly suggests they may have got this just right.
mortonjag 2007-09-07 08:52:26
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Sep 7 2007, 02:27 AM) [snapback]329896[/snapback]
If a player, who nobody really rates anyway (myself included at the time), throws his toys out the pram and appears to be finished at the club, makes a comeback and surprises everyone with his form - I think you've got to give the manager credit.

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If Deano had got more 'wee shots' last season McInally's automatons wouldn't have struggled so hard, so often.

The guy's a f*ckin' breath of fresh air.

McInally-now that's perhaps something different.

I'd suggest we give full credit to Scott Mclaughlin. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-07 08:59:28
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 7 2007, 08:53 AM) [snapback]329945[/snapback]
I agree with you that the CIS cup is far more significant than the challenge cup and it was disappointing to lose albeit against Dundee side who were better than us on the night.

And yes we probably have lost money on Tuesday's tie - attendance was from memory about 600 and so our share of the pot was unlikely to have been much more than around £2000 after costs - police etc, and VAT.

The East Stirling tie should be a bit better. Capacity of Firs park is nominally 1880 but it will probably be all ticket and restricted on the day to maybe 1500. On the same basis we should get around £5k from that tie.

Just to put your point in context though, we will probably make £20-25000 from 3 rounds of the Challenge cup. Dundee in 3 rounds of the CIS will have made £70,000 plus.

I take it that must be sponsorship money you're talking about.

I thought the general perception was that 'we want out of those diddy cups to concentrate on the league', and now I learn they're actually money spinners.

Or am I missing something?
mortonjag 2007-09-07 09:10:45
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Sep 6 2007, 04:22 PM) [snapback]329620[/snapback]
You lot are out of order. Boo boys need love too.

Of course they do Boozie-they are merely being honest about their thoughts and feelings.

I never 'Boo'-that's a personal choice-I prefer to be open about things thereby giving concomitant solace to our forum 'Boo Boys'.
mortonjag 2007-09-07 13:58:45
QUOTE(lush @ Sep 7 2007, 10:38 AM) [snapback]329985[/snapback]
Mortonjag and Thornton? Bring it on. Liven the place up a bit. laugh.gif

HA HA Lush-the man who thinks he knows almost everything and the boy who indoubtedly does! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-07 14:01:45
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 7 2007, 09:44 AM) [snapback]329955[/snapback]
light headed?

laugh.gif --but, 'No'----the thickness and impenetrability of the skull more than compensate for a total lack of neuronal tissue.
mortonjag 2007-09-07 14:05:56
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Sep 7 2007, 10:27 AM) [snapback]329972[/snapback]
Diddy cup is too high an honour to award this waste of space competition.

Droopy diddy cup?
mortonjag 2007-09-07 14:12:40
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 7 2007, 09:40 AM) [snapback]329953[/snapback]
That's very unfair.

I think we all "call it as we see it".


Except those purely out for a wind-up. rolleyes.gif

Your comments, as always, illustrate your inability to appreciate any other point of view, or accept any other opinion as valid.

Sorry my darling Trumpet-I wasn't including the rose tint brigade as having valid opinions-that was indeed extremely discourteous-yeh Man -go ahead-call it as you see it for the rest of your lemming like existence.

I'm sure lemmings are perfectly entitled to call it exactly as they see it. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-07 14:16:48
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 7 2007, 09:55 AM) [snapback]329960[/snapback]
Don't think he's a great footballer.

Don't think he's the answer we hoped for in central midfield.

Honest effort can only take you so far.

BUT, he's doing very well, has clearly improved and matured since last season and is as good an answer as we have for that role.

Long may it continue.

The boy's not daft, but I'm sure he understands JM's doing his very, very best.

In fact, I'm sure we ALL do.
mortonjag 2007-09-07 14:19:07
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Sep 7 2007, 10:37 AM) [snapback]329983[/snapback]
What's so funny ?

For a guy with that avatar not to see that as funny is-

FUNNY
mortonjag 2007-09-07 14:20:46
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 7 2007, 11:18 AM) [snapback]330015[/snapback]
Deano has always played with his heart on his sleeve. Another ten like him would be great. Recently he has managed to curb his rashness and has been able to use his energy wisely. Keep it up Deano. Maybe he and Scott McLaughlin could play in the same team.

Scott's quite good at draughts while I understand Deano's no shirk at poker.
mortonjag 2007-09-07 14:28:01
QUOTE(lush @ Sep 7 2007, 12:29 PM) [snapback]330068[/snapback]
Gerrys sister said it was because she is a doctor the smell was on her. blink.gif



laugh.gif

That explains why I look like death warmed up after a wee goldie!

FFS-AND all those bloody forum vultures praying for my ultimate demise.
mortonjag 2007-09-07 14:37:56
QUOTE(Toby @ Sep 7 2007, 02:25 PM) [snapback]330104[/snapback]
[b]As ArklesTON says, you've not acted on it at all. And if you're sick of getting complaints about the conduct of the posters on this board maybe you're not a suitable moderator[/b] and should hand on the reigns to someone else. I can think of someone else who may not be suitable for his job...............
Possibly so, but I heard a similar argument on Saturday about the differences in the roles between a youth coach and a first team manager. Any guesses who the subject matter was?

'Fraid I have to support the Mod here-he did NOT say that-merely that he was sick of complaints about OF related stuff, and my personal take is that anybody who can HONESTLY say he sees Glasgow Rangers and Glasgow Celtic with equally dispassionate scorn would not be bothering his arse to complain.

Just to redress any imbalance, since I can't type their names simultaneously-that's the 'Tims' and the 'Huns' I'm referring to.
mortonjag 2007-09-07 16:03:48
QUOTE(Toby @ Sep 7 2007, 02:44 PM) [snapback]330110[/snapback]
Bollocks. My complaint is about being called a closet hun. While I no longer Call McInally Jim The Tim, it's hardly slanderous. At the end of the day, he is a Celtic supporter. I, however, am a Morton fan, with NO religious leanings whatsoever, so take offence to being called a "hun".

It's nothing to do with showing disdain towards one more than the other.

Can we pack in ALL the Old Firm/sectarian related slanders/nicknames/whatever please?! They're very boring and frankly have no place on a messageboard dedicated to Greenock Morton Football Club. I'm also sick of having to act on complaints everytime something like this is mentioned




That's what he said-nothing to do with you in person-he's just pissed of with folk who kid on they don't give a f*ck complaining when they PATENTLY DO!

I can assure you I've been accused of what I consider a lot worse than a 'closet Hun' Toby, though I believe even a few have called me that.

So if I choose to call him 'Jim the Tim', 'Jim the Dim', or 'Jim the closet Hun', some of the Board's bairns will surely see fit to be offended by one of the terms.


For what it's worth I believe he IS pretty dim, and he makes no pretence of not being a 'Tim', so for me he's actually 'Jim the Dim Tim', though I'd never put it in big bold pink letters.
mortonjag 2007-09-07 16:16:03
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 7 2007, 02:47 PM) [snapback]330112[/snapback]
I think you may have proven my point?

I'd comment further, but I don't even understand your sentences - Having a wee senior moment? blink.gif

(PS. You do know it's a myth about lemmings don't you?)

Of course I do-I support lemmings wholeheartedly and abhor the frequently disparaging manner in which they are associated with football forum posters who can't see the wood for trees.

PS I know lots of myths about woods and trees too.
mortonjag 2007-09-07 16:18:49
QUOTE(Kaney @ Sep 7 2007, 03:29 PM) [snapback]330120[/snapback]
Im selling a Peavey 6505+ Halfstack (Slant Cabinet)
I bought it from adlib music back in march for £1490.
Its in as new condition, only sat in my room and i've jammed out on it a few times in the house.

I bought it with the intention of using it for Gigging and Jamming with some folk and having top notch amplification to back us up, but it simply hasnt went to use. Having a £1500 amp in your room to play for a few mins every now and again aint really justifiable.

Anyways. Id be looking for £1000 for it. Thats £490 off what I bought it for a few months back and its as in as good condition now as it was back then. (I even got a discount from the lads at adlib too)

Read about the amp head here
http://www.peavey.com/products/browse.cfm/...Plus%20Head.cfm

And the cabinet here.
http://www.peavey.com/products/browse.cfm/...t%20Cabinet.cfm
Give's a shout if yer intereted. Catch a bloody bargain smile.gif

I've been trying to sell a decent Telecaster on here for ages-try the 'Snips'!!!
mortonjag 2007-09-07 16:21:52
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Sep 7 2007, 03:49 PM) [snapback]330124[/snapback]
there's nothing like a good bit of mental speculation from people who know nothing about what's going on. smile.gif

Well they've hardly been deprived of information for some four plus months, and even the Pope appeared to think the McCanns were in the clear.
mortonjag 2007-09-07 17:00:36
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 7 2007, 04:31 PM) [snapback]330137[/snapback]
What would he know? Are you suggesting he's infallible?

On a serious note, I suspect the reason the McCanns's are coming under suspicion is that the Portuguese police are clueless and the McCann's are on the verge of leaving the country. It seems to be the way Portuguese law works and not necessarily a pointer to whom they actually think took the wee girl.

The McCanns' behaviour has been extremely unusual from day one. Our assessment of the Portuguese Police is largely based on the huge media interest in this case, actively encouraged by none less than the McCanns.

They have successfully hampered this investigation from the word go-that may be ALL they are guilty of- but hamper it they most certainly have.

Whatever else, they are clearly full of their own self importance, and see themselves as bigger than an agency which has been trying to assist them.

I have deprecated their behaviour from the outset, and always had a very uneasy feeling about their motives.

Time will tell whether or not the Portuguese Police are doughballs. Just because the British press portrays them that way for its own selfish interests in no way proves anything



mortonjag 2007-09-07 17:08:51
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Sep 7 2007, 05:00 PM) [snapback]330147[/snapback]
laugh.gif I can do a good wee 'sanctimonious' when I try. But is it fair that JM gets criticised for everything that goes wrong (as happens on here) and rarely if ever, gets recognition for good judgement ?

UTTER MINCE



JM could do no wrong for 75% of posters right up 'til the last day of the season cloth ears. You have a conveniently short memory.

The natives have undoubtedly been getting restless of late-we're running out of time on bought success and JM's true qualities are finally coming under scrutiny.

If Scott Mc had not fallen awkwardly on his arse, Deano's would still be warming the bench-bloody obvious to anybody with a clear mind.
mortonjag 2007-09-07 19:10:02
QUOTE(tontastic @ Sep 7 2007, 05:30 PM) [snapback]330160[/snapback]
You clearly do not have enough people on ignore. When browsing this forum and i am not logged in, and hence do not have my ignore list applied it fills me with annoyance and loathing at the narrow mindedness and self importance of some of the posters on here who feel they have some god given right to have their say lorded over one and all time and again. Then I login and get my ignore list applied and all is well in the world.
IF YOU ONLY DO ONE THING TODAY, USE THE HUFF BUTTON ON SOMEONE YOU DON'T LOVE WHO LIKES TO TALK PISH.


Yet again the 'gaffer' and official photographer for GMFC displays his true colours.

WHOOPY F*CKIN' DOO

You know something MR tontastic-I can honestly say I don't loathe a single person in the whole world, nor have I EVER felt the need to push the 'huff button'-my expression, by the way.

I do, however, find your self indulgent and sanctimonious negation of the rights of posters to say exactly what they think, within the published forum rules, (on a site which is apparently a nice wee earner for you) mildly annoying.

If I really valued your opinions, I guess I'd find it extremely annoying.

Just thought I'd draw the posters attention to my heartfelt opinion.

IS THAT OK?
mortonjag 2007-09-07 19:20:05
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Sep 7 2007, 07:14 PM) [snapback]330199[/snapback]
These bright colours are hurting my eyes.

Try a pair of rose tints-quite a few been chucked away recently I'm told. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-07 19:23:56
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Sep 7 2007, 05:19 PM) [snapback]330154[/snapback]
Regardless, a high percentage of posters saw Keenans retention as an error on the part of the manager. Current events show that a high percentage of posters were wrong and the manager was right to keep him. If Deano keeps up this standard Scott will have to wait for his opportunity to arise. So 'Utter mince' (in large red font) is rather harsh I feel. sad.gif

I thought JM was right to keep him-full credit for that.

I believed folks were suggesting that his recent selection had arisen from managerial inspiration, when in fact he had little option. smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-07 19:26:02
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 7 2007, 05:48 PM) [snapback]330167[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif That's not team games though MJ.

Hmm-suppose not, though I guess it might depend on the number poking.
mortonjag 2007-09-07 19:27:34
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Sep 7 2007, 06:42 PM) [snapback]330189[/snapback]
Of course we do. East Stirling are on a roll at the moment, and although they beat QP on Tues night, I can see that we will win this game.

Can you PM me this week's lottery winning numbers? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-07 19:36:03
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 6 2007, 04:22 AM) [snapback]329429[/snapback]
Personally I think he's bullied everytime he comes up against a tall or strong striker. Kenny Deuchar, Michael Moore and even bean pole Andy Brown spring to mind.

Correct-for a man of his physique he is consistently 'mugged' and he's such an honest big soul, he hardly ever gripes enough to the Ref-I'm sorry to say Stu is one of a small number in the squad who are going to struggle at division 1 level.
mortonjag 2007-09-07 19:42:52
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 7 2007, 07:18 PM) [snapback]330203[/snapback]
While I'm unconvinced of the McCann's guilt or innocence I do believe the theory that they may have killed their daughter by accident to be the most plausible I've heard yet.

I'm probably alone in that, though.

One possible scenario is that they came back to find her dead (from whatever cause) and panicked.

If that is correct, they probably would have temporarily hidden the body, before finally disposing of it some time later in a vehicle hired for the purpose.

Not a new story by any means, and sadly those things DO happen.
mortonjag 2007-09-07 19:49:33
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 7 2007, 07:44 PM) [snapback]330224[/snapback]
Hard to see what you're barking at here.

Are you saying that Morton deliberately rolled over at Dundee to concentrate on the Challenge Cup?

Barking.

Only a clot could possibly have taken that interpretation.

I was referring to the attitude of the posters-go back and read the threads if you wish to occupy yourself more profitably.
mortonjag 2007-09-07 19:51:29
QUOTE(Lion Rampant @ Sep 7 2007, 07:49 PM) [snapback]330231[/snapback]
Argubly yes,hes got a bit of an attitude though.

He had a bloody good attitude at Alloa!
mortonjag 2007-09-07 20:01:03
QUOTE(princessTON @ Sep 7 2007, 07:49 PM) [snapback]330229[/snapback]
They are both doctors, surely they would not have panicked? unsure.gif

That's what you might imagine princess, but you've got to remember that ultimately doctors are just ordinary people. It's well known, for example, that they are very poor at diagnosing and treating their own families.

Add to that the fact that they KNEW they should not have left the child unattended, and the strong possibility that they may have given her some sedative simply to get her off to sleep. She may simply have died of accidental overdose, or from some other cause, but the substance would be easily have been traced.

Something which started off with no malice aforethought perhaps?

They clearly have very strong personalities, and may quickly have decided on the best course of action to avoid inevitable prosecution.
mortonjag 2007-09-07 20:02:49
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 7 2007, 07:54 PM) [snapback]330236[/snapback]
Are you not hinting on the story that just came out that blood was found in a car they hired sometime after Maddie's dissapearence that has now 'been found to be hers'.

Precisely-if that's correct, she was (dead or alive) in that vehicle some time after she disappeared.
mortonjag 2007-09-07 20:22:50
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 7 2007, 08:05 PM) [snapback]330247[/snapback]
you could call it the shrieking shack

I'd happily inhabit the 'Shrieking Shack' in preference to the 'Cuddling Cot' where everything is exactly what you ever wanted, and 'Mums' bottle feeds you, gives you reassuring cuddles, and attends to your incontinent habits.

It seems not to penetrate some thick skulls, that the inability of certain clots to see reality when it's staring them in the face is a MAJOR cause of the problem on discussion.

Futhermore, it's mildly irritating to hear the repetitive 'Don't DARE criticise Mr Rae', and 'JM's results speak for themselves' ad nauseam, from the same relatively small group, when a majority of previously well disposed fans are now having serious reservations.
mortonjag 2007-09-07 20:26:41
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 7 2007, 08:08 PM) [snapback]330248[/snapback]
ROTFLMFAO

Nurse - more aspirin

laugh.gif

Aspirin-hasn't been used in hospitals for years except for treating clots-how much were you asking her for?
mortonjag 2007-09-07 20:33:06
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 7 2007, 08:26 PM) [snapback]330258[/snapback]
How many statistical abstracts do successive site runners need to post before they realise that this site makes a significant loss?

I was, as I am sure you very well know Nach0, referring to the tontastic enterprise globally.

If MR tontastic is running this site for truly altruistic reasons, I raise my hat to him, while asking if his loathing and annoyance at those whose views upset him are truly the substance of philanthropy. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-08 06:41:13
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 7 2007, 10:25 PM) [snapback]330325[/snapback]
hmm. I was hoping you'd respond to my previous post sad.gif

Who in Hell is hmm? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-08 06:41:52
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Sep 7 2007, 10:33 PM) [snapback]330327[/snapback]
The 'padded pen' might be more appropriate if we're looking for an alliterative home for the bewildered.

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mortonjag 2007-09-08 06:50:08
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 8 2007, 01:41 AM) [snapback]330557[/snapback]
At least his colours are true MJ.

When was the last time you could be accused of that?

You're a cruel man Cawstic-even chameleons have feelings-and talking of feelings, I've made it very clear in the past that MR tontastic has a vested interest in this web site.

Whether or not his enterprises are currently profitable is irrelevant, and irrespective of Nach0's understandable empathy (as our excellent ex-Mod), 'The Gaffer's latest post smacks strongly of power wielding.


Does that make any sense?
mortonjag 2007-09-08 07:05:05
QUOTE(John_1959 @ Sep 7 2007, 09:45 PM) [snapback]330305[/snapback]
Hopefully our esteemed manager is using this break to do just that. Although
like many on here I seriously doubt it.

We've signed someone? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-08 07:12:46
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 7 2007, 11:12 PM) [snapback]330351[/snapback]
Back to original topic - have you lost the urge? Well after 36 years of marriage my wife has but as far as Morton go, I'm already getting withdrawal symptons because we are not playing on Saturday.

That's bizarre- if she's tolerated you for 36 years, I'd have imagined she'd be drooling at the prospect of supporting the Ton for ever and ever.
mortonjag 2007-09-08 07:22:11
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 8 2007, 01:20 AM) [snapback]330538[/snapback]
Ha ha..no-one reinvents history like the Jug.

Another situation turned on it's erse to have a dig at the boss? Shhhhurely not!

As Cornbeef says, McInally was roundly slated for keeping Deano when poor wee lambs like Ryan Russell (who just tries his wee socks off in training but the gaffer just doesn't like him - quote MJ 6 months ago) were being sent to the slaughter.

Just another example of the keyboard loyal knowing best without being anywhere near the big picture.

Come on Jag, give the manager credit where its due for seeing the long term potential in the kid.

__________
Morton FC "Where are they now"
# Ryan Russell, where is he now?

I never claimed Ryan Russsell was a brilliant player-and only time will tell how good (or bad) he proves to be.

He WAS, however, signed by JM, and at times when Jimbo's form was dire, a left footed player was either sitting on the bench, or dropped.

With Deano it's different-if you're going to start trawling my posts in an attempt to discredit me, at least acknowledge that I am one of the very few who stuck with him all last season-EVEN after Stirling, where the true nugget was JM himself.

So the ever present, industrious, and well mannered Scotty was about to be dropped because JM had this sudden flash of inspiration about Deano being the new Billy Bremner.

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mortonjag 2007-09-08 07:27:00
QUOTE(John_1959 @ Sep 7 2007, 09:50 PM) [snapback]330306[/snapback]
I have thought many times that JM actually gets the tactics right when he has little choice in selection.

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mortonjag 2007-09-08 07:33:59
QUOTE(Deego @ Sep 8 2007, 12:25 AM) [snapback]330484[/snapback]
I can assure you I am not drunk.

What would I do different?

I would have cover at centre half.
I'd have Walker in midfield.
I'd have a left back in my squad.
I'd put Weatherson up front, if he's not fit enough to be a striker, he would be out my team.
I wouldn't sign inexperienced goalkeepers.
I wouldn't play Jamie Stevenson right wing.
I wouldn't play one up front.
I'd always try win games.
I wouldn't have Kevin Finlayson in my squad.
I'd have Keenan as a defender.
Shields would not be in midfield in my team.
McAlister would be on the right.
I'd give the younger players more first team games.
I'd tell Dougie to f*** off and leave me to my job.

etc.

You'd never have been signed in the first place with an attitude like that Mr Deegan.

Shoogly only signs puppets.
mortonjag 2007-09-08 07:49:29 I have a two month old Bentley Azure, but that's just for pulling the birds.

My day to day transport is a wee Saab.
mortonjag 2007-09-08 07:51:46
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 7 2007, 08:20 PM) [snapback]330251[/snapback]
aw, naw sad.gif

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mortonjag 2007-09-08 07:53:42
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Sep 8 2007, 12:57 AM) [snapback]330509[/snapback]
Right, that's it.

I reckon all post counts should be hidden.

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mortonjag 2007-09-08 07:56:55 Many happy returns, especially to my fellow sexy geranium!
mortonjag 2007-09-08 08:21:41
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 8 2007, 02:08 AM) [snapback]330572[/snapback]
Witnesses say he wasn't warned but hey, if his visa was out of date then frankly he was asking for it.
I don't buy the overdose theory, no parent would sedate a child.
Having said that you could easlily take a body that size out in a sports grip.

Couldn't agree nore that it's fckd up.
That's what I keep thinking, is this going to be another case where humanity lets you down? If these people have been faking it what happens to the next poor fcker that has a child kidnapped, will they be met with total apathy?

We'll see what the next few days brings, I really hope the parents aren't involved.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


You kiddin' Cawstic?

One of my ex partners used to joke that his six weans were raised on Vallergan.

They are now all responsible adults-just like their Dad.

Mind you he KNEW the correct dosages.

Have you noticed that amid the MONSTROUS active publicity campaign, the twins are rarely mentioned-it seems they have conveniently been forgotten, yet two year olds (and we can safely assume they are bright kids) are capable of providing plenty of information in their own way. That strongly suggests to me that they were sleeping VERY soundly when the hitherto unexplained disappearance took place.

If Maddie was sedated, it's quite possible she took an unexpected reaction to the drug. Alternatively, in a stuporose state, she may well have fatally injured herself-accidents are most common in the home.

The parents get back, knowing they 'innocently' left the wee ones sleeping, and are confronted with a dead or dying child. They quickly realise they can't afford to be caught, so they temporarily dispose of the body, later hiring a car to transport it to its final resting place (probably in the sea).

They then go to huge lengths to publicise the abduction theory-and gradually believe in the lie they've created for the media-a complicated form of denial.

If the Portuguese cops wanted to frame somebody for this, Murat is a soft touch-why take on the might of the Maddie campaign with its papal blessing and worldwide support?

Finally, why is it that everybody seems to believe they are incompetent just because that's been spoon fed to us for months?
mortonjag 2007-09-08 08:27:36 Clitoris

wow-that's allowed

c**t

Now that's different, and I wasn't trying to spell CVNT either!

Aunt f****y's p***y, looked queer gazing through the *potential ethnic slur removed* in the curtain.

Yid have thought 'queer' was knotty!


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mortonjag 2007-09-08 08:42:46
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Sep 8 2007, 07:54 AM) [snapback]330611[/snapback]
Not got one yet as not passed my test.

Any recommendations for a first car £5000 or less ?

Second hand Japanese or German-plenty of good stuff out there-ultimate choice depends on individual taste and budget.
mortonjag 2007-09-08 08:43:25
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Sep 8 2007, 08:15 AM) [snapback]330618[/snapback]
I have a Corsa 1.8 SRI - very nippy biggrin.gif

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mortonjag 2007-09-08 08:44:23
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 8 2007, 08:17 AM) [snapback]330622[/snapback]
I think Saab's are minging. My brother bought a new one recently and convertable thingy, he thought it was the dugs baws, me I thought it looked rotten. Sorry but am just not a Saab person, but each to there own.(says a vauxhall driver tongue.gif )

The current Saab 93 is a Vauxhaull Vectra Sean!!!
mortonjag 2007-09-08 08:45:26 For about 256,391 insults.
mortonjag 2007-09-08 08:46:29 Harold Crippen Shipman
mortonjag 2007-09-08 08:50:00
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Sep 7 2007, 09:40 PM) [snapback]330303[/snapback]
Jamie Stevenson reads this website also cool.gif

Hope to f*** he stays, he's potentially one of the better midfielders in this league but he's been played left mid, right mid or upfront this season. Get him in the middle McInally !!!

AH-we finally have an explanation for the manager's bizarre behaviour-Jamie-stop being a naughty boy-you should know better when Mr McInally's in charge.
mortonjag 2007-09-08 08:56:49
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Sep 8 2007, 08:54 AM) [snapback]330637[/snapback]
Seems now that there is more to it now that Gerry McCann has become a suspect too. Have to admit he looked very close to tears but something just doesn't add up in the whole thing. Would like to believe they were not involved but will see what develops from here.

One thing IS for sure, until the matter is resolved, the McCanns will be unable to practise in Britain.
mortonjag 2007-09-08 09:02:42
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Sep 8 2007, 08:56 AM) [snapback]330639[/snapback]
tongue.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

FACTS AT A GLANCE

CAR: Vauxhall Corsa 1.8 16v SRi
PRICES: £11,795-£12,455 - on the road
INSURANCE GROUP: 9
CO2 EMISSIONS: 190g/km
PERFORMANCE: 0-60mph 8.0s / Max Speed 126mph
FUEL CONSUMPTION: (urban) 25.2mpg / (extra urban) 47.1mpg/ (combined) 35.8mpg
STANDARD SAFETY FEATURES: Twin front airbags, ABS
WILL IT FIT IN YOUR GARAGE?: (length/width/heightmm) 3817/1646/1440mm [3dr

You are my kind of woman! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-08 09:11:02 Only 3% of young dentists commit to NHS
Fewer than one-in-30 dental students plan to work solely for the NHS when they graduate, according to a new survey.

(From today's Herald).

Greedy, or just trying to get the best return for their state funded endeavours?
mortonjag 2007-09-08 09:19:05
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Sep 8 2007, 08:58 AM) [snapback]330642[/snapback]
I know that. But I thought just during the week the family were preparing to return to the UK. Now things have taken a turn for the worse.

Thot I heard last night that Kate had her passport seized but am unsure if that was the case?

The point is that they're on sick, or compassionate leave. Six months on full wages, followed by six months at 50%.

They are now suspected of something which would clearly be construed as 'serious professional misconduct, and may be guilty of fraud into the bargain.

If they are convicted, they will be struck off the GMC register, and never treat another patient in Britain. So long as that possibility exists (while they remain suspects) they cannot practise.
mortonjag 2007-09-08 09:25:15
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 8 2007, 09:18 AM) [snapback]330657[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif Couldn't agree more. Let's get it right intae the national team of Hearts.

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Poor Mr Frail-and he was one of ours for a tinsy wee spell.
mortonjag 2007-09-08 12:31:09
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 8 2007, 10:26 AM) [snapback]330687[/snapback]
If it's irrelevant then why did you bring it up?

Unless he's forcibly stopping people from reading your posts then how is he power-wielding?

I could say-'to keep in line with 75% of posts'! wink.gif

Stop being a p***k Nach0-the fact that he grasped the chance of this web site as a platform for 'Tontastic' is well known. That is what IS relevant. I have no personal gripe with free enterprise, and believe he provides an excellent service at a price.

What I DO take issue with, is his apparent wearing of two hats.

By all means let him assume another screen name and join our merry band.

Tontastic, as the 'Gaffer' should IMHO be above involving himself in petty and emotive posting.

In my professional capacity, I assure you I bore no resemblance to a 'Mortonjag'.

Maybe others are simply incapable of that level of self control.
mortonjag 2007-09-08 12:36:41
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 8 2007, 10:41 AM) [snapback]330692[/snapback]
To be honest she's never been into football much except for a brief spell as a teenager when she went along with her mates not to watch football but drool over the Danes, Kaj Johansen in particular.

Nope, its her other urges I was referring to rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2007-09-08 12:40:30
QUOTE(GMC @ Sep 8 2007, 10:31 AM) [snapback]330688[/snapback]
How can he be happy when he's not got all of the fans behind him, despite doing well FFS? mad.gif

Sometimes I wonder if some people actually realise what effect their negativity s***e has on people at the club. dry.gif

Is that different from spouting negative pish, or do they have identical harmful effects-and then there's the negative drivel which sounds REALLY nasty.
mortonjag 2007-09-08 12:45:53
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Sep 8 2007, 12:39 PM) [snapback]330766[/snapback]
Unlike the rest of us unsure.gif

ABSOLUTELY




That is the WHOLE point! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-08 12:49:16
QUOTE(Loveless @ Sep 8 2007, 10:53 AM) [snapback]330696[/snapback]
As you probably know I'm training to be a Dentist.

They give out a bursary now to Dental Students which commits them to work for the NHS for a set number of years, and a lot of students I know want to pursue a career in the hospital, which would mean working for the NHS anyway, but yeah, a lot of them do want to work privately.

The problem is the big gap between the wages, an NHS Dentist will make a good living but have to work really hard for it, a private Dentist will be minted doing a quarter of the work, although you'll find most Dentists do a mixture of both anyway.



Precisely, and as a direct result of various government policies over the last two decades.

If politicians had their way Medicine would have gone down the same road, but it's always been too much of a 'hot potato'.
mortonjag 2007-09-08 12:54:52
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Sep 8 2007, 12:28 PM) [snapback]330748[/snapback]
alright adrian. now go to your room.

Hole?
mortonjag 2007-09-08 12:59:21
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 8 2007, 09:38 AM) [snapback]330671[/snapback]
Tha thu 'nad luid
S e Luid a th'annad
Co-sheòrsach
Co-sheòrsach
Gille-tòin
Banas-feise
Co-sheòrsachd
Cleamhnas lom
Iarr muin
Air muin ri sheep
Làir
Dàirich
Ith bod
Obair-shèididh
Piseag
Iasg mò do bhriogais
Mac an éisg
Pitean
Ith pitean
Smuasaich bod
Deoghail bod
Fearchas
Breall
Burralaich
Imlich sine
Seasamh-boid
Tha cliathagan Jordan
Cìochan corrach
Beul-maothain
Imlich mo fhaighean
Tha thu 'nad fhaighean
S e faighean a th'annad
Gabhaidh e e 'sa thoin/anns a' thoin
Ithidh i strailleanan
Ith mo chac
Sugh mo bhod
Aireamh na h-Aoine ort
Bigealais
Crann
Crom-odhar
Cliospairneach
Cluigean
Gogan
Bod
Blaigeard
Trusdar
Broilleach
Uchd
Brillean
Billean
Beacharn
Siursach
Striopach
Comhstach
Druis
Bruchag
Baobh
Bugair
Brod
Cach
Caoch
Cioch
Ciochean
Caochan
Cum do theanga ablaich gun fheum
Co-sheorsach
De do ghnothaich!
Duille
Druisealachd
Druisear
Druiseil
Druisire
Sean-dhruisire
Deanaibh mi gu cruaidh!
Duin do ghob
Faighean
faigh muin
Rach-air-muin
Fearas-feise
Galla
Geobag
Truiteag
Ith mo chac!
Leam-leat
Luinnseach mhor
Lan dhen cac
Leodag
Luid
Mas
Mo Chreach!
Noig
Raitse
Pòg mo thòin
Reipseach
Sugh mo bhod
Sput a-mach e!
Co rinn an samh sin?
Strapaid
Striopachas
Sodomach
Tha i beag-naire
Thalla gu Taigh na Galla
Tilg a-mach
Tolla-thon
Toll-toine
Thalla 's cagainn bruis
Ceann-là
Don't think any of these swearies will be banned. biggrin.gif

And here was I thinking the Gaelic was a gentle lilting language.

Sheep shagger perchance?
mortonjag 2007-09-08 13:09:20
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Sep 8 2007, 12:54 PM) [snapback]330775[/snapback]
Favourite car at the moment is the Honda Civic Type R, but not exactly a first car, type of motor.

Would anyone recommend something along these lines then?

http://www.arnoldclark.com/detail.html?ac_...#036;model=Polo

Your £5000 will go miles further if you buy privately. Scottish Autotrader's the best bet-check it on line, but FFS get help from somebody who's 'been around the block'.

No point in handing over hard earned dosh to SIR Arnold!!!!!!!!! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-08 13:32:52
QUOTE(Albundy @ Sep 8 2007, 12:48 PM) [snapback]330772[/snapback]
Skunk alert again , this message board if getting overrun with "Non Morton SUPPORTERS" rolleyes.gif

I know, NewTON describes it as sedition-it is truly a menace of gargantuan proportions.
mortonjag 2007-09-08 13:36:27
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 8 2007, 01:13 PM) [snapback]330783[/snapback]
No, that is quite an offensive word. but the fact that you cannot even mention the word at all in any context is a PC world gone mad.

As a coincidence I heard the "N" word (if that makes you feel better) on a radio show recently, and they were discussing that fact that it is making a comeback in songs sung by black artists.
For some reason, it's not offensive when a black person sings it, but it is when a white person does it. blink.gif

You can still write 'niger' = black (latin)
mortonjag 2007-09-08 14:02:39
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 8 2007, 01:03 PM) [snapback]330779[/snapback]
Yeah, you could say that rolleyes.gif

That's your opinion - good to know I'm a p***k for disagreeing with it rolleyes.gif

You still haven't explained how he's preventing your posts from being read, either.

I called you a 'p***k' because I believed you were playing 'Devil's Advocate'-if that is not the case I apologise.

I have not suggested he's preventing posts from being read-indeed his childish outburst which appeared to be directed mainly at me, will no doubt spur me on to greater efforts.

Read his post again if you will.

Does that sound like a reasoned statement of opinion?

To me it is superciliously patronising, derisory, and typically ill judged. In his usual stilted English, the 'Gaffer' appears to exhort his minion posters to 'copy Daddy' by variably pressing their little 'huff buttons' just as he does.

He doesn't actually define 'PISH', though I'm sure it will be easily found in the 'Gaffer's dictionary', and with refinement typical of his position of authority he describes his 'annoyance and loathing of the narrow mindedness and self-importance of 'those who have THE RIGHT TO HAVE THEIR SAY LORDED OVER OTHERS'!!!!!

Nach0-so far as I am aware, only two posters have ever met the REAL Mortonjag, but this man swans about Cappielow on match days beaming benignly at all and sundry, and has his name on the official match programme, yet sees fit to demonstrate a lack of common sense and self control I'd expect from a ten year old.

What's rattling his cage-is the site failing, and Mortonjag's to carry the can or something?

Time to grow up MR tontastic.
mortonjag 2007-09-08 14:11:09
QUOTE(Lovedaddy @ Sep 8 2007, 01:53 PM) [snapback]330791[/snapback]
BMW 316i coupe, MTech bodykit and Spoiler. Mean looking car. Im no over 25 so can actually afford to insure it!!

Really-you must recommend your insurer to the other kids! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-08 14:12:44
QUOTE(briggsTON @ Sep 8 2007, 02:09 PM) [snapback]330797[/snapback]
Thanks for the best wishes
I shall be staying up for an hour later before I have the horlicks

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mortonjag 2007-09-09 09:19:02
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 8 2007, 03:53 PM) [snapback]330816[/snapback]
There's a good half dozen people on this board with their name in the programme, I'd say... at least five that I know of.

I don't reckon his is the only patronising and ill-judged post ever to appear on these pages.

Why not calm down a bit?

I'm yet again tempted to call you a p***k, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt! wink.gif

I am very calm at the moment.

Now here we go-


CLUB OFFICIALS


Douglas Rae, Iain Brown, Jim McCall, Arthur Montford, Crawford Rae, Gillian Donaldson, Mary Davidson, Susan Gregory, Jim McInally, Martin Clark, Heather Arthur, Tony Cowden, Craig Speirs, Fraser Gray, Paul Kelly, John Tierney, Andy Bryan, Alex Renfrew, Mark Farrell, James McFadden, and David Bell.

Unless I'm very much mistaken our 'Unofficial' message board is owned and managed by a Club Official. Perhaps, if HE calms down, he may eventually realise that although his childish naivety occasionally makes me cringe, I still support his endeavours.

I'd just like him to approach the task with true professionalism.



If I told Arthur Montford that by some aberration his name had been appended to the post in discussion, rather than that of a fellow Club Official, I guess he might blush a tad.

Point taken?
mortonjag 2007-09-09 09:31:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 8 2007, 06:47 PM) [snapback]330872[/snapback]
Dear doctor,

is it healthy/safe to fill one's cranium with helium ?

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Post mortem-indeed!

As Arthur used to say-'The heads go up'.
mortonjag 2007-09-09 09:36:55
QUOTE(ton_1874 @ Sep 8 2007, 05:00 PM) [snapback]330831[/snapback]
I've lost the urge to go to a game since the home game against hamilton. Since I started mixed martial arts last year I've began to lose interest in football. I had bought a season ticket for this season but I'm naw interested in going back. Watching football now just bores me to death. mellow.gif

Some posters will accuse you of being a 'part timer', but if you speak the truth I find that very sad.

You went to the effort of buying a season ticket, presumably because, like many of us, you believed closed season promises from folk we thought we could trust.

Hopefully you won't do very well at martial arts! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-09 09:50:17 The McCanns are now headed home-if nothing else, the Portuguese Police have achieved something VERY positive should the child still be alive.

How many cases of this sort are solved within five months.

The McCanns are guilty of a whole catalogue of 'crimes' IMO.

In this country they could undoubtedly be charged with obstructing the Police in the course of their duty, and that's just for starters.

Will the tabloid gravy train now hit the buffers? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-09 09:56:24
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 8 2007, 08:49 PM) [snapback]330907[/snapback]
To quote Francie & Josie: " Fine, hoo's yersel'?"

Ah'm gonnae no dae it!
mortonjag 2007-09-09 09:58:35
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 8 2007, 04:02 PM) [snapback]330817[/snapback]
Nissan X Trail 2.2 deisel

Chauffeur driven of course, Mr McArthur!
mortonjag 2007-09-09 10:01:44
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 8 2007, 09:02 PM) [snapback]330920[/snapback]
I've got an Audi A4 Avant 2.5 TDI Quattro and a Mazda MX5 which my 3 year old daughter refers to as "Daddy's toy car". Also sometimes drive my wife's Ford Focus, but not through choice - it feels so cheaply built after the Audi.

The Audi is a real quality item, beautifully built and fully galvanised, which is why you never see rusty Audis (or if you do, they've been crashed a badly repaired). Four wheel drive so it's unstoppable in anything under half a metre of snow and never gets stuck in muddy car aprks or fields (work demands occasional forays into off-road areas). My first one was a 1.9 and did over 50mpg but the current none, which has a tiptronic transmission, an automatic with manual override facility, only does about 36. It's a 6 cylinder V6 diesel.

The MX% is great fun, bought it from Macmillan Motors in Greenock and it's given me no trouble apart froma dead battery when it was 6 years old. Only do about 3000 miles a year in it, and it's only done about 32k since it was new in 2001 - I got it at 3 years old. Might sell it if anyone is interested cos I want to get a Caterham 7.

What has your coccyx done to offend you! ? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-09 10:05:56
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Sep 8 2007, 09:54 PM) [snapback]330946[/snapback]
Really need advice then as people recommended Arnold Clark.

A lot suggested McMillan motors beside the Riley snooker hall also, any info on this?

I'm not Inverclyde based Rossco, but I've been buying motors for over forty years, and I've learned it's normally very unwise to buy a new car at all.

Second hand low mileage cars have immediately dropped in price massively-it's just a case of finding the right one. There are plenty of reputable Non Franchised dealers around, but you will still pay much more than buying privately. If McMillan get a good name locally, you'll probably do OK.
mortonjag 2007-09-09 18:21:36
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 9 2007, 12:34 PM) [snapback]331145[/snapback]
To some extent.

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mortonjag 2007-09-09 18:39:53
QUOTE(Cappielowcrazy @ Sep 9 2007, 06:24 PM) [snapback]331232[/snapback]
One year old Vectra 1.9cdti SRi , but stuff cars , I've got a 2 year old Kawasaki Z750s - 100bhp , 150 mph cool.gif

Only 25 m.p.h faster that Street Walker's wee Corsa, and she can do it in comfort!
mortonjag 2007-09-09 18:46:00 I'm hoping our new strike force will come good, though if we go two up they will probably be subbed by defenders.

Optimistic as ever ---a 1-0 victory with Leafy scoring his debut goal. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-09 18:52:38
QUOTE(Deego @ Sep 9 2007, 06:45 PM) [snapback]331236[/snapback]
Are you happy where you work?

I don't.
mortonjag 2007-09-09 18:58:06 Mr Rae has his season tickets printed in England.
mortonjag 2007-09-09 19:04:10
QUOTE(Edinton @ Sep 6 2007, 01:31 PM) [snapback]329533[/snapback]
smile.gif

Seeing as we're being friendly is it time for the inaugaral greenockmorton.net/forum social event?? rolleyes.gif

'Fraid I have a prior appointment. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-09 19:08:36
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Sep 9 2007, 07:06 PM) [snapback]331246[/snapback]
Aw, naw! When did that one come about? Seriously mj we can do better tongue.gif

laugh.gif

Suggestions?

I find leafy quite winsome TBH! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-09 19:12:33
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 9 2007, 07:06 PM) [snapback]331247[/snapback]
I wish you had your plane tickets booked for England ! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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And just when I thought everybody was giving me a wee rest CLAYMORE C*CK! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-09 19:24:14
QUOTE(Cappielowcrazy @ Sep 9 2007, 07:00 PM) [snapback]331244[/snapback]
Not really the point though.. wink.gif

It's 25 b.h.p. more powerful too! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-09 19:27:01
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Sep 9 2007, 07:24 PM) [snapback]331257[/snapback]
I like 'Iain' mellow.gif

Isn't that Leafy's real name though?

O.K.

How about 'Next lamb to the slaughter'!
mortonjag 2007-09-09 19:31:18
QUOTE(Cappielowcrazy @ Sep 9 2007, 07:27 PM) [snapback]331260[/snapback]
...and weighs about ten times as much wink.gif

Karamba-YOUR car must be made of tissue paper! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-09 19:38:53 You see-we haven't played a league game for eight days, and everybody's quite 'palsy walsy'-well ALMOST everybody. The board's gone awfy quiet too.

The minute that lot rear their ugly heads again, we'll be at it hammer and tongs-guaranteed.

I wonder if they have an earthly clue that they cause such widespread stress and discontent among such lovable souls.
mortonjag 2007-09-09 19:41:14
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Sep 9 2007, 07:28 PM) [snapback]331261[/snapback]
If he plays up front on Saturday we'll call him Lucky tongue.gif

Lucky (four) Leafy?
mortonjag 2007-09-09 19:48:12 There's a big splash about E.S in today's Sunday Herald. It seems the wee Falkirk club has a new 'feel good' factor, something which I believe is crucial in the game, and singularly lacking closer to home.

Results so far have been excellent, and it's a cup tie which for them is huge. I shall not be visiting the bookmaker on this result.
mortonjag 2007-09-09 19:50:10
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Sep 9 2007, 07:44 PM) [snapback]331271[/snapback]
I'll settle for that. 2 heads are better than one after all laugh.gif

LUCKY LEAFY RUSSELL it is! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-09 19:54:09
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Sep 9 2007, 07:43 PM) [snapback]331268[/snapback]
Most of us get on well most of the time! laugh.gif laugh.gif

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TBH SW I love all of my fellow posters-well all except 31 at the last count and that excludes the Mods. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-09 19:58:11 I planned to attend the 40th Anniversary re-union at Paisley Grammar.

Unfortunately most of my ex schoolmates had OD'd or been shot.

The other four had retired to Florida.
mortonjag 2007-09-09 20:04:50
QUOTE(Zutons @ Sep 9 2007, 07:55 PM) [snapback]331280[/snapback]
Just when you though it was safe to go back in! unsure.gif

32
mortonjag 2007-09-09 20:06:00
QUOTE(Deego @ Sep 9 2007, 08:00 PM) [snapback]331287[/snapback]
Do you love me? sad.gif

You KNOW I do darling.
mortonjag 2007-09-09 20:07:08
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 9 2007, 07:57 PM) [snapback]331282[/snapback]
...the water, MJ rises from the deep and plants his wallies in yer farter! laugh.gif

minus breathing apparatus.
mortonjag 2007-09-09 20:08:22
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Sep 9 2007, 08:04 PM) [snapback]331291[/snapback]
Again, here we go, and guess what?: BLAME McINALLY apparently. Right Dr jag? rolleyes.gif

Why shoot the messenger-the cause of all discontent is somewhat older than I.
mortonjag 2007-09-09 20:10:58
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 9 2007, 08:08 PM) [snapback]331301[/snapback]
Pith is disgusting - I remove it regularly from my tangerines. rolleyes.gif
If you'll excuse me, Gandalf's killing a monster now.
O wait he's dead. It was all a dream. sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

Pith ith good for one, lowering ath it doth onth cholethterol.
mortonjag 2007-09-09 20:11:52
QUOTE(Deego @ Sep 9 2007, 08:09 PM) [snapback]331304[/snapback]
Love you too babes.

xxx

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mortonjag 2007-09-09 20:13:21
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Sep 9 2007, 08:11 PM) [snapback]331308[/snapback]
No, vikingTON is still a school pupil unsure.gif

....who eath pithless tangerinth.
mortonjag 2007-09-09 20:14:25
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 9 2007, 08:12 PM) [snapback]331310[/snapback]
Supposedly not so.
As a doctor I'm not qualified to comment. dry.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

Cyclops whale.
mortonjag 2007-09-09 20:17:33
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 9 2007, 08:15 PM) [snapback]331313[/snapback]
kl.

Hey cyberpest-wtfikl, + BTW fancy removing the first word from your signature? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-09 20:19:46
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 9 2007, 08:18 PM) [snapback]331315[/snapback]
You messing with the Kaiser? ohmy.gif dry.gif

Sunday's hetero night.
mortonjag 2007-09-09 20:25:08
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 9 2007, 08:20 PM) [snapback]331318[/snapback]
No way Chief.

Enough of the idle tittle tattle, I'm of for a rousing game of 'Scrabble'.

Are you a scrabble rouser?

I've been trying for over a month, and still haven't managed URINATE-OK I know it's only a basic score of 60, but if you place it accurately you can wash your opponent out.

Toodlepip.
mortonjag 2007-09-10 05:57:34
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 9 2007, 10:56 PM) [snapback]331371[/snapback]
Well, hopefully Stan will see DDFR (and JM on his way from Ibrox to Rugby Park).

Stepping back from an illustrious career in 20 years time?
mortonjag 2007-09-10 06:03:08
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 9 2007, 08:44 PM) [snapback]331334[/snapback]
There wasn't really a topic on this one anyway.
Another of the old man's senile ramblings.
Don't worry, he'll be tucked up with some cocoa and his pills by now. wink.gif

Ageism rears its ugly head again-I shall consider reporting you to the Mod-to the gaffer even-no, on second thoughts to the Mod.

The Mod is a nice man-I believe he doesn't have an ounce of ageism in his lovely body.
mortonjag 2007-09-10 06:03:53
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Sep 10 2007, 12:52 AM) [snapback]331390[/snapback]
what a pile of sh i te

In an ocean of pish.
mortonjag 2007-09-10 06:05:39 Who is this McGeady fellah anyway-has he some Ton connection?
mortonjag 2007-09-10 06:12:09 I am proud to be a Scot, especially when I'm (rarely) in England.

My Grandfather was a Scouser who moved to Greenock as a young man, and became proud of his Scottishness.

He used to get quite angry when we said we could still detect his odd accent!

Still supported the Reds!
mortonjag 2007-09-10 06:14:35
QUOTE(Exiled Scot @ Sep 10 2007, 12:21 AM) [snapback]331385[/snapback]
I have a Mercedes C class with the Elegance package and my wife has a Saab 93. Both are great but I love driving the Merc. Both are almost 3 years old now so will have to be changed before the MOT is due.

New 93 out soon-should be a cracker.
mortonjag 2007-09-10 06:15:31
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Sep 10 2007, 12:37 AM) [snapback]331388[/snapback]
pair of holey converse allstars for me, and occasionally a scotrail train

car of choice would be this though

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDIf I was a psychologist, I guess that thing would make me wonder about your sexuality.
mortonjag 2007-09-10 06:22:00
QUOTE(princessTON @ Sep 9 2007, 08:08 PM) [snapback]331303[/snapback]
Just started college and i love it. A bit of tennis coaching for under 7s, thats good fun as well. smile.gif

How long did the the advanced disclosure take to come through?
mortonjag 2007-09-10 06:41:20 London ‘damaging Scottish Labour’
ROBBIE DINWOODIE, Chief Scottish Political Correspondent September 10 2007


Labour's prospects of a fightback in Scotland are being undermined by the relationship with the party at Westminster, according to former first minister Henry McLeish.

He was also sharply critical of the way MPs and London ministers have engaged with Alex Salmond's "national conversation" and called on them to make a constructive effort to create a UK equivalent of this debate.

"The mere fact that the Union has existed for 300 years is no great case for it to remain unreformed in the years that lie ahead. This is a challenge for Westminster and they have to be alive to that," he told the BBC ahead of today's launch of a book he has co-written, The Road Divides.

Written with journalist Tom Brown, it examines the Scottish and UK political landscape 10 years after the Yes-Yes referendum vote.
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Mr McLeish, who described himself as a "small n' nationalist", said: "We are seeing the end of the beginning of devolution and a new phase is opening up. We are now in a distinctive type of politics in Scotland. All of that suggests we are moving on.

"The big debate is not about whether or not we should have had devolution - I think the public accepts that it has done reasonably well - but what we must now look at is where Scotland goes."

He said that there were now major questions for the Union such as the Barnett funding mechanism and the West Lothian question, concerning Scots MPs legislating on English issues.

Mr McLeish said: "In Scotland the debate has been far too narrow. It has been polarised between the status quo Union and independence and separation. The big question is: how is Westminster reacting to all of this so far? Unfortunately, some of the comments made recently in response to Alex Salmond's national conversation have not been terribly inspiring, not been terribly helpful."

He added: "What is also important is that Alex Salmond has set the agenda. The national conversation is alive and it's going forward, but, on the other hand, why don't we have a conversation throughout the whole of the Union?"

Of the Scottish party's relationship with London, he made a contrast with the SNP: "Alex Salmond's great strength is that they are very Scottish.

"They are uncompromising in their defence of Scottish interests. By making devolution work they are giving stature to the office and they don't have to look over their shoulder to Westminster day in and day out.

"It doesn't seem to be rocket science for Labour to replicate some of these issues. They can still be strong on the Union, but they can be more distinctively Scottish. I would anticipate that this is what will happen, because that is the way forward for Labour."

He added: "If Labour want to continue to be a powerful vehicle for social and economic change they have to correct this fault line which is now undermining them in terms of the UK relationship."

Labour's Scottish leader-elect, Wendy Alexander, who addressed party members in Dumfries yesterday, has already moved to improve relations between MSPs and MPs. She has held meetings with Midlothian MP David Hamilton as chairman of the Scottish Labour group at Westminster and with Scottish Labour peers.

She plans to accentuate the Scottish aspect of the Scottish Labour Party brand and is said to be open to the possibility, floated by Livingston MP Jim Devine, of having an MP as deputy leader of the party north of the border.

For the SNP, Deputy First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said: "We welcome Mr McLeish's comments and welcome him to the national conversation. There is overwhelming support to expand the powers of the parliament which continues to gain support from all political parties as the national conversation continues to gather momentum."

From today's 'Herald'.
mortonjag 2007-09-10 10:21:17
QUOTE(princessTON @ Sep 10 2007, 09:19 AM) [snapback]331429[/snapback]
Ages. Its ok, your not catching me out on anything, all above board. Passport, driving licence,bills, you name it! Have been doing it long enough now.

Well princess, at least it keeps folk in a job!
mortonjag 2007-09-10 10:28:49
QUOTE(Lord Haw haw @ Sep 9 2007, 10:15 PM) [snapback]331364[/snapback]
We already have a National Anthem, God Save The Queen. If the islanders need a Scotch anthem then i do not have a problem with Flower of Scotland. It is sung with passion and that makes it an anthem. It stirs passion so it should be played before we go in to battle in Iraq and Afghanistan or any other place needing our help. The Queen loves Scotland that is why she owns Balmoral in the Highlands.

Every one of your posts is 'Old Hat' Haw Haw-dreadfully sorry old chappie but you're just a bore.

Toodle pip and GFTQ mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-10 12:01:13
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Sep 10 2007, 11:59 AM) [snapback]331491[/snapback]
Going to Kilmarnock via Greenock is a very long way for a shortcut.

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mortonjag 2007-09-10 12:05:07
QUOTE(Lord Haw haw @ Sep 10 2007, 10:51 AM) [snapback]331462[/snapback]
I would have thought you of all people would be all of keeping the Union. Its the Britsh Goverment that paid your wages all of your life.

Thats another point, would Scotland have such a good Health Services if it was not part of the Union, if it wasn't for the Union I don't thnk we could have paid for it on our own

You must have the wrong person in mind Hee Haw-I was self employed all of my working life.
mortonjag 2007-09-10 12:07:30
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Sep 10 2007, 10:52 AM) [snapback]331465[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDDid you just pop the saddle on for the photo?
mortonjag 2007-09-10 15:58:00
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Sep 10 2007, 02:10 PM) [snapback]331520[/snapback]
you'll find it's actually SPROUTS

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mortonjag 2007-09-10 16:02:34
QUOTE(GreatKingRat @ Sep 10 2007, 03:57 PM) [snapback]331542[/snapback]
My job's alright. I'm lucky in that I get to do what I've always wanted to do which has allowed me to work on some websites such as Celtic, Everton and Southampton; but at the end of the day it's still a job.

You'll be well acquainted with the name Strachan then! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-11 05:42:43
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 10 2007, 06:47 PM) [snapback]331623[/snapback]
Toughie. Think 3-1 to the Ton. Russell, Russell, and er Russell. OG from Harding. Templeman sneezes and blows Millar half way down the park. Shoogly trips over his shoe lace on the way to the (directors) box. The guy in the Livvy crowd with the big drum gets beaten up by said drum with the words "how do you like it ya big bully!!"

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mortonjag 2007-09-11 05:44:00
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 10 2007, 08:09 PM) [snapback]331651[/snapback]
Livi are abject, we'll win.

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mortonjag 2007-09-11 05:50:55
QUOTE(Deego @ Sep 10 2007, 05:17 PM) [snapback]331582[/snapback]
mortonjag's the only one for me.

xxx

C'est vraie mon petit chou chou. wub.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-11 06:00:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2007, 07:15 PM) [snapback]331637[/snapback]
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And Stan will be going to Ayr as well.

I am sure that he won't get lost.

After Alibi's wedding I drove through Kilmarnock to get to Millport.

Did I go the wrong way ???

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All roads lead to Rome!
mortonjag 2007-09-11 06:02:55
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Sep 10 2007, 08:29 PM) [snapback]331668[/snapback]
Probably Jani Sturm's agent.

Jani Sturm is NOT a gent.
mortonjag 2007-09-11 06:11:11
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Sep 10 2007, 07:34 PM) [snapback]331643[/snapback]
i've had the c1 at 115, and it wasn't maxed out. i remember being quite surprised.

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mortonjag 2007-09-11 06:16:19
QUOTE(RSC @ Sep 10 2007, 08:21 PM) [snapback]331659[/snapback]
18 Mth old Audi A4 2.0L Petrol. 30 to 50 mpg depending on road/speed/shoes worn
2nd time around for an Audi A4 - Tried Saab 93 last time, utter plastic crap and don't even look good.
Would NEVER have a stinky old bag of nails diesel either, stick to a petrol car.

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How dare you describe saabs as crap Sir-aye a bit plasticky compared to your stiffly suspended Krautwagens-my little Saab will take the knickers off every A4 cabrio and laugh its way to the filling station.

BTW diesel is the IT word at the moment, not that I'd have one myself! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-12 13:03:56
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 12 2007, 07:34 AM) [snapback]332056[/snapback]
All roads lead to Parc des Princes.

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Vive L'ecosse!
mortonjag 2007-09-12 13:14:13
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 11 2007, 04:34 PM) [snapback]331862[/snapback]
No, the problems are twofold. One, the door microswitch has broken, needs replaced. secondly as a result of the switch breaking, a circuit board has apparently burnt out and the replacement part is between 50 and 100 quid. Takes 2 minutes to fit the parts. The burn out circuit board looks to me like 1 resistor is a bit blackened and I could fix that with a soldering iron but maybe the damage is more extensive than it appears from a visual inspection, i.e. transistors knackered.

Things were a lot simpler when there were less pure electronics - a mechanical control system could usually be fixed or over-ridden.

Yes, I assumed Miele were good by the price of them. However I think their load size is only 5kg whereas a 7 or 7.5 kg load means only 2/3rds as many washes.

IMO it's similar to buying a car-no point in splashing cash on a machine that's only going to be used for light loads two or three times a week.

Heavy duty's different.

We have a Bosch and have had no problems in three years except for a blocked pump (coin and hair clip), and you just open a wee flap on the front and fix it yourself in about ten minutes.
mortonjag 2007-09-12 13:17:01
QUOTE(lush @ Sep 12 2007, 11:05 AM) [snapback]332087[/snapback]
I heard on the news this morning that they want to use the fund for a team of top London lawyers. The executors of the fund are having a meeting today to decide. The fund stands at more than 1,000,000. I think if they are allowed to use this money for their top London lawyers, their will be a public out cry.

It could be construed that they've had this well planned from day one!
mortonjag 2007-09-12 13:20:00
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 11 2007, 09:56 AM) [snapback]331771[/snapback]
What is your problem? rolleyes.gif

At the moment a large prostate, but if we hump Livvy I shall piss myself with glee!
mortonjag 2007-09-12 13:22:00 I am an old fiddler.
mortonjag 2007-09-12 13:23:42
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 12 2007, 01:08 PM) [snapback]332152[/snapback]
Clearly compensating for a small penis.

Probably.

TonInDublin

Do you have a stretch Limo?
mortonjag 2007-09-12 19:44:28
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 12 2007, 05:14 PM) [snapback]332219[/snapback]
Hmm, expecting that wee c*nt Snodgrass to dive and/or score at some point.
Hope we can win but I feel we may have to settle for a draw here.
1-1.
Edit: this is made having no idea who will play on Saturday.
Yours: JM. wink.gif

John Mole?
mortonjag 2007-09-12 20:00:26
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 12 2007, 12:47 PM) [snapback]332135[/snapback]
Am I missing something lads ?

It's a guy dressed up as a gorilla playing a set of drums to one of the easiest songs you could drum to.

And it's fantastic how ?????

TonInDublin

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GTF sourpuss


Signed Santa.
mortonjag 2007-09-12 20:03:36
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Sep 12 2007, 02:21 PM) [snapback]332195[/snapback]
Prosecutors have made an emergency application to seize her mother's private diary

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mortonjag 2007-09-12 20:06:06
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Sep 12 2007, 12:12 AM) [snapback]332038[/snapback]
Quintin Tarantino and Terry Wogan.

In work today dispatching Flybe's all over blighty when i found myself with half an hour to burn between flights.

Popped to greggs in the airport and went back to the domestic peir to have lunch in front of the telly at gate 23.
Sat down and started munching on a steak bake and this Irish voice says..." where did you get that there pie".
Looks up from my paper and its Terry Wogan himself......Shat meself....he sits down and proceeds to have a conversation about Greggs and it turns out he loves them.....So off he pops and comes back 5 mins later with a greggs steak bake, sits down and starts asking about my job and what i do.....(this is nuts)

So there i am being "interviewed " by the great man himself when along pops Quintin tarantino with 4 gorgeous female assistants....Terry Wogan shouts " hey Tarantino" and the 2 shake hands and terry wogan introduces me to him GOBSMACKED IS NOT THE WORD.

Spend the next 20 minutes talking to these 2 icons and guess what......doughball here forgets to get their autographs or a picture..... sad.gif sad.gif

What a day!!!!!!!!!

Did you ask if they wanted to buy a football club?
mortonjag 2007-09-12 20:31:07 If we drew one of the Old firm at Scapa, and didn't move the game , I guess their fans would be griping too.

The wee shire have made the best decision for themselves. Good luck to them.
mortonjag 2007-09-12 20:41:51 mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-13 06:51:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 12 2007, 09:26 PM) [snapback]332294[/snapback]
2122: GOAL France 0-1 Scotland
Unbelievable. The travelling support are going absolutely blinking nuts. James McFadden unleashes a quite astonishing shot from distance and while Mickael Landreau gets fingers to it, that's not enough to keep the exocet out.
All roads lead to Austria.

Maybe Alex McLeish could give JM a wee hand in the motivational department!
mortonjag 2007-09-13 06:55:13
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 12 2007, 09:58 PM) [snapback]332329[/snapback]
You talking to me punk?

Do you feel lucky (about the Livvy result)?

Lucky Leafy will do the biz!
mortonjag 2007-09-13 06:59:05 I am competent on piano/keyboards and 'no bad' on guitar.

Thinking of getting a banjo after listening to some old Humblebum/Connelly tracks-that guy was once SO funny!
mortonjag 2007-09-13 07:01:22
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Sep 12 2007, 11:49 PM) [snapback]332404[/snapback]
in my opinion, having worked in glasgow airport for many years, airport staff are up their own arses

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Every single one?
mortonjag 2007-09-13 07:26:31
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 13 2007, 01:51 AM) [snapback]332453[/snapback]
I thought the advert was brilliant as does anyone I've mentioned it to.

Even my Monkey loves it, though he feels that it could be construed by some as politically incorrect.
























mortonjag 2007-09-13 07:30:39
QUOTE(marx @ Sep 13 2007, 02:47 AM) [snapback]332456[/snapback]
Please explain the difference between religion and OCD and/or superstition to me. Religion seems to include many rituals eg repeating prayers over and over. People believe saying certain things over a set number of times brings a good reward. People believe their thoughts can influence others.

Religion is a belief in a superior being. Why is this any different to previous civilisations including Egyptians. Some, including christians, look at their worship of sun god, music god, magic god et al as unfounded and irrelevant. Also today we have the many different gods of the Hindu religion, including many christians et al would say are weird, many handed, elephants etc. We also have 'cults' like Scientology. Why does other religions, eg christianity, refute these as wrong .

THEY ARE ALL AS DAFT AS EACH OTHER

They all include a belief in superior god or gods, who is right?

Are they all wrong?

People are given pills to overcome obsessive compulsive disorder which include routines with a consequence, why do we respect the views of millions of people who have the same sort of thoughts under the umbrella of religion?

Then we have the aftereffects of religion manifesting itself in ignorance and acceptance of others with alternate views. How many wars are started in the name of religion now and throughout history?

To conclude, I feel it's all a load of crap. Are people so scared of nothing guiding them before and after death that they cling on to the hope of guidance and salvation from what i feel is superstitions. That's all religion is. All religions are based on superstitions.

Do we give more credit to prayer and faith than those feeling a mirror breaking is 7 years bad luck? Is there any difference?

Question to finish: Why does a 'caring' god allow atrocities, children dying, parents dying young leaving young kids etc? Don't give me it's all his plan.

Just to finish in the context of sport, why do players believe that blessing themselves will give them better 'luck' and play than others who may bless themselves in the other team? s*** God must be wondering how he balances 2 blessing opponent teams of 11 men wanting to win this game. Sorry this is just one of many paradoxical questions religion brings up.

I look forward to the religious minority/majority views backing up their superstitions, oops sorry religion.

Hmm-can you tell me what those are-I have absolutely no faith in pharmacological management of OCD.
mortonjag 2007-09-13 07:46:51 DNA is only evidence-not proof, according to a couple of guys who are the latest to grab some personal publicity on the back of the McCanns' behaviour.

Well we ALL know aout expert witnesses!
DNA expert offers help to McCanns
ALAN MACDERMID September 13 2007

The man who invented DNA fingerprinting stepped into the case of missing Madeleine McCann last night by offering to be an expert witness for her parents.

Sir Alec Jeffreys said that DNA matches - on which the case against the McCanns hinges - did not on their own establish a person's innocence or guilt.

His dramatic intervention came as Portuguese prosecutors turned the screw on the McCanns by seeking leave to seize Kate McCann's diary and other family items.
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Among them are her husband Gerry's laptop computer, correspondence, and Madeleine's toys, including Cuddle Cat, a pink stuffed animal which Mrs McCann has been seen clutching almost continuously since the four-year-old vanished on May 3.

For their part the McCanns are to commission independent forensic tests on a hire car which has become the focus of investigation by the Portuguese police. Speaking on Newsnight, Sir Alec said there were no genetic characters in Madeleine that were not found in at least one other member of the family. "So then you have an incomplete DNA profile that could raise a potential problem in assigning a profile to Madeleine, given that all other members of that family would have been in that car," he explained.
�€˜DNA doesn�€™t have the word innocence or guilt in it ... that�€™s a legal concept�€™

"It is then up to investigators, the courts and all the rest of it to work out whether that connection is relevant or not.

"So DNA doesn't have the words innocence or guilt in it - that is a legal concept. What it seeks to establish is connections and identifications."

Unnamed "sources close to the investigation" who have been briefing the Portuguese media have claimed that DNA linked to Madeleine, and hair, have been found in the car, implying that it may have been used to move the four-year-old's body.

Another UK scientist called into question the value of DNA evidence in its own right in the case of Madeleine's disappearance. Dr Paul Debenham, a member of the advisory body the Human Genetics Commission, said there could be legitimate reasons as to how DNA from the missing toddler found its way into the hire car rented by the missing girl's parents.

Prosecutors would need to establish that it got there as part of a criminal process and not through chance contact, the expert added.

The police dossier on the case - now said to run to 4000 pages - has gone to the public prosecutor, Jose Cunha de Magalhaes e Meneses, who is to hand it on to criminal instructional judge, understood to be Pedro Daniel dos Anjos Frias. As their fate was being mulled over in Portugal the McCanns took their other two children - two-year-twins Sean and Amelie - to their local playpark in Rothley, Leicestershire, and made clear they would not be using any money raised for the fund to find Madeleine to pay for their legal defence.

They are facing the prospect of being charged over their daughter's disappearance from the family holiday apartment in Praia da Luz after police named them as "arguidos", or formal suspects, last week.
mortonjag 2007-09-13 11:53:15
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 13 2007, 11:42 AM) [snapback]332495[/snapback]
Why do so many non believers feel the need to belittle or deride those who do believe. You are perfectly entitled to your opinion, your faith and your belief system. If that works for you then I'm delighted for you. I don't feel the need to pull your belief system apart because it's not the same as mine.

It's a bit like tattoos - it's only people who don't have a tattoo who seem to have a problem with tattoos.

Your mind is made up - so enjoy your beliefs, and enjoy your life.

But is it too much to ask to let others who have chosen different beliefs or faith systems to enjoy theirs without abusing it. For them it is most certainly not s***e, or daft or obsessive (your words above) or anything else you want to throw at it. Because it's their opinion, their belief and their faith and they're entitled to it.

And maybe, just maybe consider what Blaise Pascal said ....... even just for a moment ......

"Belief is a wise wager. Granted that faith cannot be proved, so what harm will come to you if you gamble on its truth and it proves false? If you gain, you gain all; if you lose, you lose nothing. Wager, then, without hesitation, that God exists".

TonInDublin

I'd be more confident of putting my money on the wee Shire beating us-otherwise I agree. Knocking other people's faith is arrogant.

Trying to foist religion on others is just as bad (if not worse).
mortonjag 2007-09-13 11:58:10
QUOTE(tigerjock @ Sep 13 2007, 11:35 AM) [snapback]332491[/snapback]
Vauxhall Zafira GSI Turbo at the mo....went 250 miles to get it as they are like rocking horse shyte especially the arden blue.

200 bhp as standard, full leather recaro interior 38k full service history 3 years old and about 1/3 of the price new....brings a f***ing great grin to my face when i drive it...especially when you get the pug and saxo boys at the lights giving it the big un...until i put the foot down.

Once bought new when i was young and daft...H reg Ford Escort Mk 2 RS turbo...complete f****y magnet of a car at the time but insurance was obscene and i could only keep it a year as it cost so much..

I had one of the earliest of those-great looker-very powerful, but could never get the hang of the handling with that bloody limited slip diff on a front wheel drive.
mortonjag 2007-09-13 12:00:11
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Sep 13 2007, 11:51 AM) [snapback]332496[/snapback]
I know it should be a personal thing, giving gifts, but what do you give a 90 year old on a very special birthday? I've no idea!

NOT a five year diary.
mortonjag 2007-09-13 18:48:57
QUOTE(tigerjock @ Sep 13 2007, 03:55 PM) [snapback]332578[/snapback]
MK 1 B or C reg per chance...very collectable nowadays for a dagenham dustbin.....it was the corners that did it for me...go in at 50...come out at 50 s*** on a shovel and like i say very good for getting your balls wet

C reg white-looked fantastic-i was used to turbo from a previous Saab, but that thing torque steered despite the so called 'limited slip diff' and you had no feel at all through the steering. My wife had a Fiat Uno Turbo which was bloody fast and much more fun to drive!
mortonjag 2007-09-13 19:06:08
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 13 2007, 12:53 PM) [snapback]332517[/snapback]
I want one of them. Just don't tell Mrs Weegie tongue.gif

I thought Mrs Weegie was OK-all the other one's got is a funny accent!!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-13 19:08:22
QUOTE(lush @ Sep 13 2007, 01:19 PM) [snapback]332531[/snapback]
Take him to Scappa for the Gold Hospitality, get him a shout out.

To Shoogly-'Listen son, don't try telling yer Grandpa how tae sook eggs'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-13 19:16:31 A compressed or zipped folder is simply a way of transferring data more efficiently. You have to unzip the folder before you can run the set up programme.

If you save it to the hard drive (just click yes, or right click and 'send to' it will automatically be stored there. You should then be able to locate it, right click, and be offered the option to unzip the individual files.
mortonjag 2007-09-13 19:23:01
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Sep 13 2007, 07:17 PM) [snapback]332659[/snapback]
give me instructions to do that....im crap on a computer ...im trying to learn though

Tell me exactly what you're trying to download, and from what site. and I'll have a shot and let you know how I get on.
mortonjag 2007-09-13 19:26:48
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 13 2007, 06:53 PM) [snapback]332643[/snapback]
I'm (nearly) in the same boat.
I don't like the look of Corsas - I have an irrational dislike of all things Vauxhall.
A wee cheap Fiat would do the job for me.
Well it wouldn't, but it ought to do it. dry.gif laugh.gif

They used to make Fiat in Poland (Polski Fiat) which had a crap reputation.

I am A Mole and I drive in a 'Pole'

bm, bm, bm ,bm wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-13 19:39:24
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Sep 13 2007, 07:24 PM) [snapback]332664[/snapback]
thanks....here is the link http://www.download-full-games.com/c64/gam...per_sports.html

Just reliving the past tonight

I'm waiting for them to send me an activation e-mail-usually they come straight away!

I'll get back to you.
mortonjag 2007-09-13 19:43:45
QUOTE(Kaney @ Sep 13 2007, 07:10 PM) [snapback]332654[/snapback]
Someone should buy you a new joke book... huh.gif

I don't read joke books-the GMFC Chairman's notes keep me going quite nicely!
mortonjag 2007-09-13 20:04:58
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Sep 13 2007, 08:01 PM) [snapback]332679[/snapback]
Thanks MJ...pint owed

I'll keep trying.

Usually those downloads are pretty simple-just keep clicking 'yes' or 'next', rather than having to unzip th files manually.

You could maybe search for the same free software download on a different site meantime.
mortonjag 2007-09-13 20:49:10
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Sep 13 2007, 08:40 PM) [snapback]332692[/snapback]
still cant download from that site...im crap at this...going to bed

I'm a determined bugger FT I will work on this tomorrow!
mortonjag 2007-09-14 06:36:27
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Sep 14 2007, 12:20 AM) [snapback]332776[/snapback]
Hasn't Deano came out and openly stated that he sees left back as his most comfortable position?

Even so, I would play Shields there on Saturday, as he is a natural full-back, albeit a right sided one. This allows Keenan to continue playing in the position he has excelled at so far this season, hopefully with Stevenson alongside him with McAllister and Gardyne each side of them. It's then a big call for Jim as to who partners Iain Russell up front, but i reckon big Sanny will get the shout, with the unfortunate Bobby Linn dropping to the bench.

edit as i cammie smell

Shields better be our right back from now on so that Spoonsy can at least move forward a bit. It makes sense to play Deano at left back tomorrow. If Harding is injured I guess Peter will have to play alongside Greacen though.

The rest- pick them out of a hat.
mortonjag 2007-09-14 06:42:43
QUOTE(dmc @ Sep 13 2007, 11:17 PM) [snapback]332755[/snapback]
Yes, because you clearly never went over the cliff we all wished you would have!!!!

Have you not noticed we've all been very nice to each other recently, and you go and spoil it all

YA WEE CVNT
mortonjag 2007-09-14 06:51:10 I was listening to JM's 'interview' on the wireless after the Peterhead victory.


Of young Gardyne (who certainly appears to have promise- like McGowan) he said-'He lives in Dundee and I used to run him up an down the road when I was at Celtic. I've been telling the Chairman all about him and he's delighted'.

Anybody like to predict how many games this young man will play on the trot irrespective of form and barring injuries?
mortonjag 2007-09-14 06:54:52
QUOTE(Cappielowcrazy @ Sep 14 2007, 01:35 AM) [snapback]332807[/snapback]
Aye ok , wrong forum..

Don't worry-I once took my chopper right round Cappielow.
mortonjag 2007-09-14 06:59:31
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 13 2007, 06:12 PM) [snapback]332629[/snapback]
Must be the same normal behaviour to leave 3 children under 4 unattended while enjoying abit of Tapas .

From day 1 , the McCann's have showed a unusual level of emotional detatchment ,considering the circumstances of the disappearance .
Whether they contributed to her disappearance or death directly we may never get to the truth .
We do know that , as doctors they showed an extreme lack of judgement . If they are willing to take the risk with their own childrens lives how would a patient feel .

That on its own could be seen as incredible self control, but allied to the rest of the behaviour, it's surely bizarre, and at least some folk are becoming rather cynical!
mortonjag 2007-09-14 07:08:29 Sturgeon orders review of hospital car park charges
Exclusive by HELEN PUTTICK, Health Correspondent September 14 2007

A review of hospital car parking charges has been ordered a day after it was revealed health workers are to be balloted on strike action on the issue.

Nicola Sturgeon, Cabinet Secretary for Health, said she was concerned about the impact charges had on low-paid staff.

Yesterday The Herald reported Unison members at seven hospitals in greater Glasgow were to take part in a consultative ballot on industrial action over charges.
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Ms Sturgeon is concerned over blanket board-wide policies, and the review group will report back before the end of November.

She said: "Car parking charges are a legitimate response by NHS boards to the difficult problems of congestion and ensuring adequate space for patients and visitors.

"However, people working or visiting hospitals across Scotland should be protected from unnecessary or excessive charges. The cost of hospital car parking, especially for lower paid members of staff who do not qualify for a parking permit, can be a large expense and I understand the concern expressed to me by many people who work in the NHS."

She said the review was necessary to determine how schemes can be amended to ensure fairness to staff, patients, visitors and carers.

Five NHS boards operate charges at hospitals, including Glasgow, Lothian and Tayside.

Ms Sturgeon said if the guidance was revised in light of the review, health boards would be expected to meet the revised terms.

A spokeswoman for NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde said: "We welcome the announcement of this review and will play a full part in supporting it. Our existing policy will remain in force during the review."

The review group will be made up of an NHS board chairperson, a human resources director and representatives from the Scottish Partnership Forum, the Scottish Health Council and a voluntary organisation.

The review will not affect car parks run by private companies under private finance arrangements but will cover all future PFI deals and existing NHS charges.



I know those charges were VERY unpopular-I had mixed feelings myself, but it seems this woman is hell bent on delivering this all new Scottish NHS 'which will meet demand', without a clue about costing.

More good publicity though!
mortonjag 2007-09-14 07:11:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 13 2007, 11:50 PM) [snapback]332768[/snapback]
The one real thing I miss about dislocating and double fracturing my knee is that I lost the ability to cycle as the left knee can't bend far enough now to peddle.

Fooking gutted sad.gif

The daft wee smackheads will just have to pedal to your hoose instead.
mortonjag 2007-09-14 07:13:51
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Sep 14 2007, 07:11 AM) [snapback]332834[/snapback]
thanks guys, some great ideas there and will follow up on them.

Nah fck it, he's getting a packet of Werther's Originals.

Hey Donga-Morrisons sell big bags of liquorice-old fashioned stuff-most oldies love it.
mortonjag 2007-09-14 07:27:50 The future and the unknown are beyond normal human cognition and perception.

It is therefore simply daft to assume that the use of human logic will produce a correct answer in those areas.

Hence I believe in open mindedness-when my 'Higher Power' is working for me, I'm very positive and productive, but often 'he' disappears. My conception is that 'God' is a function of ones own mind (or spirit).
mortonjag 2007-09-14 07:32:12 You sound a bit like the man who used to hang around my school in the red car


Dishing out Millions? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-14 07:36:14
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Sep 14 2007, 07:30 AM) [snapback]332845[/snapback]
I just think that when your brain dies, that's it. Lights out. Gone.

That is my LOGICAL conclusion too Donga, but as I said previously, you can't apply logic to the future and unknown.

For that reason, I have faith in a 'Higher Power' which may well disappear when my brain dies.
mortonjag 2007-09-14 07:38:11
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Sep 14 2007, 07:29 AM) [snapback]332844[/snapback]
Not seen it yet but heard about it.
You know which one is amazing, the new Smirnoff one with all the old wrecks and crashed planes and stuff all lifting out of the sea and crashing into the white cliffs of Dover and all over Britain and stuff. Looks expensive.

Glens is much cheaper and does the same job.
mortonjag 2007-09-14 07:52:46
QUOTE(simplyton @ Sep 14 2007, 07:47 AM) [snapback]332856[/snapback]
Where would Spoonsy move forward to?

We have more than enough midfielders in our squad and if the correct balance is found we have no need for Spoonsy
further forward.

You are not going to claim Spoonsy is a midfielder now are you?

We have Russell, Linn Temps & Graham all vying for 2 strikers positions (Gardyne & Stevenson also if he goes for 1 & 1 behind)

In midfield we have the option of Stevenson, Gardyne, Mcallister, Shields, Keenan, Miller, Graham & Finlayson (fit?)

I dont see where Spoonsy fits into the team anywhere other than in the defence. He proves an excellent goal threat from full back but tends to get lost playing any further forward.

If we find someone to play full back I fear Peter will become a utility sub unless he is moved into centre half.

SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A STRIKER


Says JM....and it's up to JM to get him fit.
mortonjag 2007-09-14 09:23:27
QUOTE(simplyton @ Sep 14 2007, 07:59 AM) [snapback]332861[/snapback]
So you would play him up front tomorrow? Ahead of Temps, Linn, Graham & Coakley (assuming Russell is certain to start) - despite not having played there from the start for a number of years.

Nope-I think Temps deserves his place as a target man for Leafy-it sure is a conundrum, but despite what everybody seems to think, Spoonsy ain't a defender, and we have LOADS of midfielders. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-14 09:33:04
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 14 2007, 08:42 AM) [snapback]332873[/snapback]
To imply that faith is the nobler path (i.e. it's open as opposed to the closed nature of reason) is pretty baseless when, by its very nature, you need to close yourself off to reason (in this area of judgement, if not any others) to accept faith. The two are mutually exclusive; it's not the case that one will be an open choice and the other not.

I agree with what you said before. The only thing that could get me to accept faith would be a personal, spiritual, religious experience. I haven't had one yet and I'm not expecting one.

And I think you're spot on when you say that people of faith are not necessarily "weak" in the mind. There is a great deal of religious philosophy worth reading, for example, and even (as you said) on this thread people have argued their corner pretty well.

However... I still side with Camus wink.gif
My girlfriend basically says she finds it better to live as if there were a god, whether or not there is one. So you have at least one person in agreement tongue.gif

And I agree that normal human cognition and perception (at the moment) can't give us any divine answers, should they exist. Hence the agnostic half of my agnostic-atheism. However, I reckon that scientific advances - both technological and biological - may one day change that, so it's not hard and fast.
I too feel superior to people who have faith. I have no trouble admitting it, even though it's most probably a failing of mine. I don't think all beliefs and mindsets are equal.*

*That's NOT to say that I don't think people should believe as they wish. Of course they can. I advocate freedom of thought for *everyone*, no matter what their belief system.

I have complete faith in my partner, and absolutely none in Shoogly.

I could of course be proved utterly misguided in both areas, and have, therefore, no objection to you feeling superior to me.
mortonjag 2007-09-14 09:48:52
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 14 2007, 09:28 AM) [snapback]332887[/snapback]
As many people know, I do a lot of insolvency work and I have to say that the building society that appears most frequently in my cases is Northern Rock. In particular I come across a product they have which gives 100% mortgage and a further 35% as an unsecured loan. Usually they have sing for the unsecured loan.

Of the mainstream banks and building societies, I would say Northern Rock are the most reckless lenders, followed by the HBOS group.

When it comes to the UK equivalent of the 'sub prime' lenders, Mortgages Plc seem to me to take a lot of chances with mortgages they might not be able to get back.

Overall, the whole financial industry claim to be exposed to £54 billion in shaky debt and thats just what they know about. There must be at least that number again where people are struggling but have'nt missed payments yet but probably will. Their irresponsible attitudes to lending which has been focussed on sell, sell, sell irrespective of ability to repay may yet cause the collapse of the world economy.

By way of illustration, I recently came across a case of a couple who both have severe learning difficulties and are effectively institutionalisebd - they live in a home and their benefits go direct to the home who give them a few pounds a week pocket money in exchange for doing chores around the home. One of our mainstream high street banks lent them £25,000!!

I rest my case.

Disability Discrimination Act should see the banks justifiably f*cked.
mortonjag 2007-09-14 10:11:22 Deja vu-the 'Jag' ask a perfectly legitimate question, and instead of a reasoned and specific answer gets rubbished, just as he did with Mileson, Finlayson, Shoogly, and JM.

Well children, I guess I've long since seen it as a cross I have to bear. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-14 10:14:08
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Sep 14 2007, 10:11 AM) [snapback]332902[/snapback]
Well we can add Millar to that list now, out for a month by the looks of it.

JM states without Millar,McEnespie,Walker,McLaughlin,McGregor and McGurn we still have a good enough squad mellow.gif and we will cope ( I just bloody hope so as 3 losses on the trot wouldn't do too good for my ticker )

http://www.inverclydenow.com/news-detail2.asp?ID=663

Your ticker is younger than Shoogly's.
mortonjag 2007-09-14 10:19:48
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 14 2007, 09:49 AM) [snapback]332894[/snapback]
Yes, but your partner and DDF Rae are earthly phenomena that you can observe and reason against and then determine whether or not to trust (which, in this circumstance, is a more appropriate word than to put 'faith' in.)

The idea of faith that we're discussing here is faith in the unknown, basically.

Indeed, but the 'faithful' will give umpteen examples of earthly phenomena which they believe can be 'logically' interpreted as acts of 'God'. It is entirely real to them. I suggest that must be respected.
mortonjag 2007-09-14 10:23:16
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Sep 14 2007, 10:12 AM) [snapback]332903[/snapback]
According to a recent report the greatest threat to the future “well-being†of the Health Service is increasing obesity. Also, women with a waist size of ≥35†and men with a waistline of ≥40†are classified as being at high risk of developing diabetes. They should start to provide incentives (OK taxes) as a way of stopping this phenomenon so that we don’t end up imitating the US. My first suggestion to provide incentives for "the big fatties†is to price clothing based on waist size (they are using more yardage of cloth anyway). As an example, for men-

-15% of retail price for < 36â€
Normal retail price for 36-38â€
+15% of retail price for >38â€

Thus, providing a 30% saving going from obese to healthy.

What's the name of the new slimming pill you've designed HT?
mortonjag 2007-09-14 10:25:51 My partner is certainly no 'Goddess'.

Shoogly-well according to many posters he is undoubtedly our deity!
mortonjag 2007-09-14 10:27:33
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 14 2007, 10:16 AM) [snapback]332906[/snapback]
laugh.gif Fair point MJ, but if he is doing the business then he will deserve his place in the side.

Correct! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-14 10:29:37
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 14 2007, 10:24 AM) [snapback]332911[/snapback]
I answered your question, without picking the number of games, admittedly. Many managers have their favourites. As long as it doesn't impact team morale or remain blind to other options then I don't think it's a huge problem that the two are close.

McGowan was, over the course, maybe one of our top three players last season, and the squad wasn't exactly crying out with competition. Nobody else really played his back-to-goal role - even if there was a case for rotation at times it would have resulted in a different shape.

There were all kinds of conspiracy theories floating around about McGowan but most ignored the fact that he was a brilliant player.

....who frequently played far from brilliantly but was never dropped. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-14 10:39:37
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 14 2007, 10:27 AM) [snapback]332913[/snapback]
tongue.gif

And you have your crosses to bear, apparently... does that make DDF your heavenly father? ohmy.gif


Each night I kneel in humble prayer, reciting those words...



Our father who art at Fort Matilda
Douglas be thy name
Thy kingdom come
Thy will be done at Scapa,
As it is in Golden Casket
Give us this day an experienced loan player
And tell us your plans
As we forgive your apparent lack of them
And lead us not up the garden path
But deliver us to the SPL
For thine is the Stadium, the squad, and the money
For ever and ever.

AMEN
mortonjag 2007-09-14 10:41:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 14 2007, 10:36 AM) [snapback]332919[/snapback]
That's not good MJ, pulling someone up on their spelling makes you like Thornton! ohmy.gif

Ha Puggs-but I was only teasing! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-14 10:44:31
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 14 2007, 10:36 AM) [snapback]332918[/snapback]
May I proffer "Waistwatchers".

TonInDublin

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mortonjag 2007-09-14 10:47:26
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 14 2007, 10:43 AM) [snapback]332923[/snapback]
My son bought a new 1.2 Corsa around 3 years ago for just about £6500 (one of Arnie's deals). He recently got a company car with a new job and sold his Corsa for £3500 which worked out at £1000 a year depreciation. Thats as good as it gets for a new car. The car came with a three year warranty which did not have to be called on as literally nothing went wrong with it and it only needed normal servicing. It was fairly roomy for a small car, the 1.2 made it pretty nippy and it did well over 40 to the gallon.

All in all, I would recommend it to anyone looking for cheap and reliable wheels.

Your wee cheap Fiat will probably be OK also. Number two son had a Punto for a while and liked it. I just don't think they have the staying power longer term and they are ready for the scrap yard sooner generally than the likes of Fords, Vauxhalls, VWs etc. If you are looking at a 5/6 year old car you need to think about reliability and what they cost to fix. Thats where Ford and Vauxhall score.

I wouldn't go past a five year old Micra or Polo.
mortonjag 2007-09-14 10:51:21
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 14 2007, 10:33 AM) [snapback]332917[/snapback]
Fair enough. I can actually see where you're coming from, and I know Linn *maybe* should have played more, but I don't think it was as simple as a straight swap.

So much of our play depended on Gowser's back-to-goal nature, which Linn - whose talents lie elsewhere - simply does not have.

I'm half with you but I don't think it's as simple as Jim merely playing favourites. Regardless of who he favours, remember he's still in the results business - it's his job.

I liked wee Gowsa-he even mentioned me on Wikipaedia- and I often felt sorry for him. The expectation placed on his young shoulders by his adoring Godfather and 'Gabriel' was often too much IMHO.
mortonjag 2007-09-14 10:54:27
QUOTE(simplyton @ Sep 14 2007, 10:43 AM) [snapback]332924[/snapback]
I dont think he is a defender but its difficult to leave him out of the team because he is such a goal threat from right back

With a fully fit squad and players playing in the correct position smile.gif I dont see a place for Spoonsy in our 1st team.
I know thats a bit shocking to some but he has become a jack of all trades but a master of none

I just dont think he has the mobility to pay up front - Although his game was never really based on pace he seems to have gotten slower and doesn't really really fufil the either the role of target man to hold up the ball or nippy nuisance forward.

I do think he is a great finisher but dont know if he still has what it takes to be a great striker - Maybe some hard work on fitness and ball control etc.

He showed what he could do when he signed for us but thinking back our midfield was over running team and creating a lot of chances.
As for tomorrow unless he is moving into central defence I dont know if we should move him.


Yip, and wee Jay's a better right back.

Spoonsy on the bench?

Canny see it mind!
mortonjag 2007-09-14 11:43:30
QUOTE(Toby @ Sep 14 2007, 11:15 AM) [snapback]332934[/snapback]
You know my views of Jim, but from what I saw of the boy at peterhead he'll walk into that team regardless of whether he's a teachers pet or not. The lad looks a class act.

..and I agree, but Gowsa 'walked' in too, and never walked out when IMO the wee man needed a rest a couple of times.

Labelled as a striker, he went two months without a single goal last Autumn, when 'on the day' others could have done better.
mortonjag 2007-09-14 11:50:13
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 14 2007, 11:19 AM) [snapback]332936[/snapback]
To be honest, there's a lot to be said for buying a Japanese car if you are looking at an older motor. Nissan, Toyota, Suzuki, Mazda, Honda - all of their cars are well screwed together. The only comment I would have is that spares for Japanese cars (and German ones) tend to be a lot more expensive than those for Vauxhall and Ford plus second hand values reflect how the market regards them.

You'll get a much newer Corsa or Fiesta for the same money as a Polo or Micra.

Aye-you pays your money and you gets your choice-which is the better investment in terms of peace of mind? I'd always choose reliability, but taking a gamble and paying less often pays off in the end.
mortonjag 2007-09-14 12:12:39
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 14 2007, 08:57 AM) [snapback]332877[/snapback]
That's just complete lies !

After the results of the referendum on devolution in Scotland and Wales the SNP joined the vote of no confidence based on a motion they put forward themselves on devolution.

The Welsh voted no to devolution, the Scottish had a majority vote but not enough to carry the day.
Based on their lack of success in the devolution vote, in terms of not getting the required majority for a Yes vote, the SNP deserted the Labour party, effectively spitting the dummy out of the pram.

Just to be clear to anyone who wasn't around at the time what was needed for the vote to be successful, it wasn't that much of a stretch IF the Scottsh people at the time had TRULY, PASSIONATELY wanted to achieve it.

Here goes ......

The referendum was held on March 1, 1979. The electorate were asked to vote yes or no: "Do you want the provisions of the Scotland Act to be put into effect?"

51.6% of the people who voted said "yes", not the huge majority the history rewriters would have you believe.
Obviously 48.4% of the people who voted said "no".

The turnout was just shy of 64% ie 36% of Scots, in the most national issue ever put before them just couldn't be arsed voting.

The result was a narrow majority in favour of devolution. However, the government had set a condition that 40% of the electorate should vote "Yes" in order to make it valid. So, a bit like the play offs, by the rules that everybody knew up front, the referendum was rejected.The Scotland Act 1978 was repealed in March 1979 by a vote of 301-206 in the UK House of Commons - there endeth the matter.

After the piss poor result, the supporters of the bill conducted a protest campaign under the slogan "Scotland said 'yes'". They claimed that the 40% rule was undemocratic and that the referendum results justified the establishment of the assembly. (yes - that huge majority of, ohhhh, 1%)

However, the election of the first Thatcher government later in 1979, diverted public attention and the devolution issue was lost from the mainstream political agenda for a decade. And who was front and centre for voting her in - yup you got it - the SNP - based on their "toys oot the pram" actions described above. Talk about a self fulfilling prophecy.

So Callaghan was terrified of Nationalism and the SNP ? You're having a laugh. Post the referendum the entire country saw that at the VERY best only 30% of the country really gave a s***e about self determination.
About 40% couldn't be arsed voting, of the 60% that could only half said yes despite the most intense national campaign and nationalist vote for centuries. No mate, Callaghan wasn't scared of the SNP, he was pissing in his pants laughing at their naivety. The subsequent performance at the polls bore out his, and everyone else's, inklings.

Complete and abject failure.

The desertion of the Labour Party by the SNP in 1979 was truly a case of the turkeys voting for Christmas.

So lets have it right. This rewriting of history is getting fairly boring.

The reality is as posted above - all factual - no tartan shortbread tinted glasses.

I'll say it again - why does the Scottish Nationalist agenda sweat small stuff like Thatcher (whose very rise to power they enabled) visiting 10 Downing St, or how much time the BBC, sorry EBC gives to Scottish news ?

Tackle the issues that matter - what would Scottish Nationalism or Scottish Independence mean for health, education, defence, employment etc etc. What help do you need in furthering those agendas cos I'm up for that work. So are countless others. But before we move forward we really do have to get that massive chip off our shoulder about things that have gone before that we have no hope of reshaping or changing.

TonInDublin

If we were truly autonomous, the Nats would be dead in the water. I'm already sick of their pandering post election spin, particularly regarding the NHS where Sturgeon clearly hasn't a clue about running 'to budget'.

If you promise more, unless you have much more efficient organisation-highly improbable from those virgin politicians- you simply pass the cost on to the electorate.


"You can fool some of the people all the time, all the people some of the time, but you can't fool all the people all the time"...


and Lincoln knew more about politics than Bawheid and his cronies.
mortonjag 2007-09-14 12:15:55
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Sep 14 2007, 12:09 PM) [snapback]332950[/snapback]
yes. but is one post in fifty worth the bother?

Off to buy a bottle of Champers.
mortonjag 2007-09-14 12:24:25
QUOTE(Lord Haw haw @ Sep 12 2007, 12:34 PM) [snapback]332133[/snapback]
Deary my here was me thinking this was a democratic country not a Police state.If we Brits allow this sort of thing to carry on then the terrorists have won,we will be living in a Police State.They wish to eat away at our democratic system, we have to stand against them,united not divided.GibbyTON you are in the British Army not the Red Army, us brothers have to stick together and fight these terrorists and destroyers of our way of life.I want to die a free man able to walk where and when i want until my last breath,unchallenged by the law,as a law abiding citizen.Inoccent until proven otherwise.

In that case, you are free to traverse the passage of the next London to Glasgow express-waving your Union flag as you go.
mortonjag 2007-09-14 13:46:45
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Sep 14 2007, 01:04 PM) [snapback]332975[/snapback]
I've only recently started going to the temple and my knowledge of Budhism is still somewhat limited but it's my understanding , that , to be reincarnated , first the person must have died.

Ah-the study of buds and flowers WDE!
mortonjag 2007-09-14 13:48:40
QUOTE(suda @ Sep 14 2007, 01:17 PM) [snapback]332983[/snapback]
it's not a perfectly legitimate question it's a loaded question

I'd suggest that your statement is in fact more loaded than my legitimate question. Would you care to explain what you think you meant?
mortonjag 2007-09-14 13:52:16
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 14 2007, 01:04 PM) [snapback]332976[/snapback]
I gather you like her about as much as you like Jim McInally.....

I don't know either personally Alibi, but at the end of the day politics and football are both just games. I'm not sure which of those folk is the bigger novice, though I hope wee knickerless has a steeper learning curve than JM.
mortonjag 2007-09-14 13:56:51
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 14 2007, 01:19 PM) [snapback]332986[/snapback]
Glens is just fortified Turps.

Really-must dash off to B & Q.
mortonjag 2007-09-14 15:21:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 14 2007, 02:57 PM) [snapback]333014[/snapback]
steeper or shallower ???

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All politicians f*ck up Newt-I'm a Ton supporter wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-14 15:24:52 This McGeady fellah seems to be a right bad egg.
mortonjag 2007-09-14 15:28:33 Re the recent re-issue of Morton shares. A shareholder has intimated that he will be pleased to sell Morton shares to any supporter wishing to buy same.

The price will be the same as the new issue, namely 65p for each 25p share. The MINIMUM quantity per sale is 100 Shares (£65).

Supporters interested in buying shares should contact the Secretary, Mrs Mary Davidson, immediately as the shares are available on a first come, first served' basis.



GMFC
mortonjag 2007-09-14 16:03:27
QUOTE(princessTON @ Sep 14 2007, 03:53 PM) [snapback]333032[/snapback]
so who is going to be the sub goalie then??

Spoonsy! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-15 08:05:48
QUOTE(tontastic @ Sep 14 2007, 05:07 PM) [snapback]333052[/snapback]
A Morton shareholder has offered to sell an unknown number of shares. The Chairman has posted on the official site to this effect.

The original poster has chosen to describe this sale as a shareholder having "had enough". It is your choice to interpret this description as either negative (the current shareholder wants out) or positive (the current shareholder wants to increase the number of shareholders by offering to fans). I am sure that there are other interpretations .....

laugh.gif


It was, of course, another joke which backfired.

Nobody other than the Raes and the Trust has INVESTED in Morton-I think the biggest shareholding apart from that is worth about 2k!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-15 08:12:46
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 14 2007, 08:05 PM) [snapback]333110[/snapback]
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Paul McGowan
Personal information
Full name Paul (Striker) McGowan
Date of birth October 7, 1987 (1987-10-07) (age 19)
Place of birth Flag of Scotland Bellshill, Scotland
Height 1.70 m (5 ft 7 in)
Playing position Midfielder
Club information
Current club Celtic
Number 55
Senior clubs1
Years Club App (Gls)*
2005-present
2006-2007 Celtic
Greenock Morton F.C. on loan 0 (0)
36 (11)

1 Senior club appearances and goals
counted for the domestic league only.
* Appearances (Goals)

Paul McGowan (born October 7, 1987 in Bellshill) is a Scottish football player. He is a striker, and is currently playing for Celtic F.C.. He was loaned out to Morton for the 2006-07 season.

McGowan played as a winger/striker for Morton and scored a total of 16 goals in 44 competitive matches. He was the club's top scorer and received a League winners medal as Morton won the Scottish Second Division. He was chosen in the 'Team of the year' in the Second Division and 3rd place in the 'Player of the Year' award. He dislikes 'mortonjag'.
mortonjag 2007-09-15 08:16:20
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 14 2007, 11:04 PM) [snapback]333159[/snapback]
If Michael Gardyne was guaranteed a first team slot irrespective of form he would probably have started against Queen of the South instead of coming on as a substitute.

The McGowan situation was different. McGowan would have come to Morton on the basis that he was expected to start the vast majority of games - as is the reality with most loan deals I'd imagine - otherwise it would have been of no benefit to Celtic. Gardyne is a signing not a loan deal so McInally will have been under no pressure to play him.

That's what I'm hoping for. People were very quick to deny that the reason Gowza was played so often was simply to please Cellic.

I reckoned he was a bit of a favoured player irrespective of that, and suspect Shoogly may take a similar shine to young Gardyne-hence the question.
mortonjag 2007-09-15 08:30:01 The documented history of the 'Stan Webster Debacle' has actually very little to do with NewTON's offer of some cash.

An opportunity to have first refusal of young Australian talent was initially apparently welcomed by Mr Rae with open arms.

The historical facts of the subsequent saga of misunderstanding, lack of communication, and possibly deliberate lies from GMFC will not go away for you or anybody else Clydebuilt.

Perhaps you should have kept your big mouth shut instead of dragging this back into the open.
mortonjag 2007-09-15 08:38:10 The injuries have forced JM to start thinking.

The squad is at last being USED, and I see that as good for all concerned. Everybody will be playing for his place today. Russell will score at least one.

Hopefully our defence will cope.
mortonjag 2007-09-15 10:46:11
QUOTE(C B @ Sep 14 2007, 04:58 PM) [snapback]333048[/snapback]
I don't go anywhere NEAR Paisley tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2007-09-15 10:50:17
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 14 2007, 07:42 PM) [snapback]333096[/snapback]
Too busy at the moment.... Arts Guild always reminds me of Saturday morning film shows, with Vimto and a Wagon Wheel at the interval.

Yuk.

Mind you in those days wagon wheels were twice the size they are now.

Dandelion and Burdock and an Auld's special for me!
mortonjag 2007-09-15 10:54:15
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 15 2007, 09:50 AM) [snapback]333205[/snapback]
I quite like Ms Sturgeon as a politician - she is feisty and seems to be a good debater in the chamber. Personally I think Alex Salmond and she will make mincemeat of Wendy Alexander who strikes me as too sweet to be wholesome!

There is a big learning curve for her though and I hope that she and her boss have done their sums correctly because their spending plans seem on the face of it to be very expensive - writing off student loans, halting rationalisation in the NHS, etc., etc. These are all measures popular with the public but it remains to be seen if they are affordable.

As for car parking, I can see that it does offer another income source for the NHS but its not one I would pursue because

1) Its a nonsense requiring NHS workers to pay to park at their work. If a nurse does a 12 hour shift it might cost her £12 a day which is effectively a pay cut for her = £3000 a year from net salary = £4000 gross. If they announced you are taking a £4000 salary cut, what would happen? No wonder they are talking about striking.
2) Who get the free car park passes? You've got it - its the top management who are the very people who could probably afford to pay it.
3) If you have someone in hospital, especially for a long stay, often that might mean the loss of a wage and visiting is an expensive exercise. Its stressful enough with a loved one in hospital and trying to exploit people's need to visit is just desperately bad and insensitive.

You may gather then, I don't agree with hospital car parking charges, especially for hospital workers!!

Sorry-I disagree Tonsilitis. The cost of parking in the city centre is vastly greater than any projected scheme for hospital workers, although the doctors should be allowed free parking. wink.gif

Anyhow it's more to do with Sturgeon's ridiculous spinning on of the concept that the NHS is still a 'free' ticket.
mortonjag 2007-09-15 11:00:01 A demented middle aged man meets a more demented geriatric for a cuppa.

'One lump or two Mrs-erm......Thatchcroft?'

'Mine's a Gin my dear-Gordon's if you will.

'Indeed...and may I call you 'Mary'?
mortonjag 2007-09-15 11:02:15
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Sep 15 2007, 10:40 AM) [snapback]333219[/snapback]
Cheers Mortonjag, I presume you're talking about Newton...............?

Nope.
mortonjag 2007-09-15 11:49:58
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Sep 15 2007, 11:09 AM) [snapback]333238[/snapback]
what was the saying about andrew carnegie again? 'he gives away money with the all discretion of a drinks waiter falling down the stairs' or something like that?

i don't know why that came into my head.

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mortonjag 2007-09-15 11:52:06 The urban motorway was clear from Dumbreck (Ibrox) right through to Provan this morning-no road works in sight through the city.
mortonjag 2007-09-15 11:56:31
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Sep 15 2007, 11:05 AM) [snapback]333236[/snapback]
by the way, i'm not joking about the private message thing. i have one in my inbox right now and have no intention of ever reading it. if anyone has anything to say to me, they can say it on the board.

f***ing pms.

I suspect NewTON will be forced to withdraw his offer then.
mortonjag 2007-09-15 23:12:59 .................. 13 months ago?

We'll win this league in spite of, not because of McInally.

We've got a squad of bright and talented youngsters running about like headless chickens, and I'm sick of it.

We need an experienced manager RIGHT NOW IMO.

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mortonjag 2007-09-16 05:45:51
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 16 2007, 01:07 AM) [snapback]333806[/snapback]
Of course I wasn't at the bloody game. How the hell would I be able to listen to the webcast if I was at the game? blink.gif

That's fantastic news about Jim, the scouts must've been impressed.

Guys like you are as much of a problem as the manager with your blinkered attitude. By the time clowns like you realise we're in it up to our necks we'll likely be marooned at the arse of the league.

I'm seriously considering boycotting games for the first time in 20 years as I'm fed up with the ongoing problems plaguing Morton from top to bottom and the siege mentality adopted by the arse lickers when questions are asked.

It'll be an intersting next couple of weeks.

PS I had umpteen reasons for not making yesterday before you try and tell me my opinion's null and void due to my absence.

The positivity boys are at it again-they're never happier than when they're having a good old moan! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-16 05:59:15 At the beginning of the season I believed he should get 'til December-the transfer window was still open and we hadn't 'sussed' the First Division.

It 's now very clear that Jim just can't 'cut the mustard'.

You can blame the meddling old gentleman behind the scenes for a hell of a lot, but even I am not cynical enough to believe he has much influence after the kick off.

I've NEVER had a personal issue with Jim, and gather he's a decent bloke, but if you cannot do the job you're paid for, you deserve to go. sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-16 06:53:02
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Sep 16 2007, 06:11 AM) [snapback]333840[/snapback]
I'm glad I got you off ignore. Seeing as you've dumped the sarcasm. wink.gif

One good victory and I'll be back on ignore by most of the 'huff buttoners'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-16 06:58:56
QUOTE(farpost @ Sep 16 2007, 12:33 AM) [snapback]333796[/snapback]
Couldn't agree more, we have far too many players on the books who are simply not Div 1 material, there should have been a clear out at the end of last season and not as was the case almost none. How many of us think that the hullabaloo with Sutton, Mensing etc was just a load of crap to fill the papers and appease the support ? with the money needed for those deals being unused why did we not do better than we have with new players, with there now only being two months in a season to get real/good staff sorted out and seeing where we are today after one of them has gone gives me real concerns about staying in this league.

The reason for that is Grandfather Rae's identification with the players. He sees them as his own children who 'deserve the chance to take us forward', and of course Puppet Manager is forced to agree.

His programme notes are a total 'give away' in that respect, and in truth he appears only a little brighter than 'Jim the Dim'.

I'm afraid we are at best, in stagnation while the 'Old Sweetie Wife's in charge.
mortonjag 2007-09-16 07:24:09 Four blind mice,
Four blind mice
See how they run
See how they run
They all run after the 'Sweetie Wife'
And muffle misgivings for fear of his 'knife'
Did ever you see such a thing in your life
As four blind mice?
mortonjag 2007-09-16 07:27:16
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Sep 16 2007, 02:04 AM) [snapback]333817[/snapback]
Saab drivers are c***s. Fact.

c***s can be useful-fact!
mortonjag 2007-09-16 07:37:00
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 16 2007, 07:31 AM) [snapback]333846[/snapback]
post in haste.

repent at leisure ?

huh.gif huh.gif

The phantom raspberry blower of Old Greenock Town is surely too wise to post in haste.
mortonjag 2007-09-16 07:57:04 ...and this a week later






QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 21 2006, 01:14 PM) *

Look mate have you seen a league table this week.

F*ck off and go and look at one!


Yip-AND at the end of last season and the season before.

I also saw the 'game' on Saturday.

Full time squad, with an infrastructure other clubs would die for, and it reads-

Played 3 Goals 3 (+ 2 o.g.'s), and already dropped two points needlessly.

Add to that the fact that McInally was yet again outsmarted at Brechin, and almost blew it at Dumbarton.

When we do well, it's because the players manage to 'get it together' on the pitch-f*ck all to do with management or tactics.

I've been watching the Ton for 46 years, and even in the darkest days, I've never experienced such blatant misuse of available talent.

If you've got a sensible argument to the contrary, let's hear it, instead of your pointless 'one liners' as above.


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mortonjag 2007-09-16 08:38:41
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 16 2007, 01:28 AM) [snapback]333809[/snapback]
Peter Cormack and Derek McInnes to name two.

The former took prolonged, sustained abuse for months on end and yet never hid, always applauded the fans and instead of greeting and moaning about it re-doubled his efforts.

A guy limited in ability but with the heart of a lion. I can't think of a Morton player I've respected more since I began following them.

As for McInnes? His career path tells it's own story.

This current mob only want their ego's stroked and there isn't one Cormack or McInnes amongst them.

Whether or not they want to yell back is their perogative but the end result will be an exacerbation of the problem and a bigger wedge between players and fans.

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I didn't see what happened, and I'm not going to fire criticism at any individual player, but I sometimes get the impression our lads haven't yet realised they're no longer the 'Gods' of Division 2.

Let's face it, they've been used to winning pretty well every week, even if the negative JM style crap they played for most of last season was a huge yawn for the fans.

Now, as the cracks are rapidly becoming holes in the wallpaper, the seige mentality orchestrated by the Chairman and manager persists. It's been drummed into those kids' brains, that if anybody criticises ANYTHING 'Morton'-he's the one who's wrong.

I can't wait to read the next episode of 'Life on a Shoogly Peg'.

No doubt we'll hear how were SOOOOOO unlucky yesterday, how the Ref chalked off at least one good goal, how Sanny's shot was 'because I told him at half time to have a go', and OF COURSE --- how we were very depleted, missing out as we did on four or five players who'd have done MUCH better-goodness if only we'd had Scotty, and David, and Chris, and Alex, and Kevin, the Manager wouldn't have had his hands tied. laugh.gif Then I fully expect another wee bit about the negativity boys having more fun at poor old Shoogly's expense.

Wake up and smell the cocoa Shoogles-them thar negativity boys are now in the big majority. Time to reinforce the stockade.
mortonjag 2007-09-16 09:10:39
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Sep 16 2007, 09:03 AM) [snapback]333856[/snapback]
At half one yesterday I had the choice of going through to Livi to pay £16 and watch Morton get humped (which I felt we would) or go and see the Juniors at Pollok. Opted for Pollok who were beaten 5-2 at home by Neilston. £5 in and although the footie was basic it was close to home, cheap and entertaining.

McInally has three or four league games to get it right, 5 or 6 straight defeats is usually the end of most managers, especially ones that have been in the job 2 years. How can anyone say we were unlucky to get beat four nil? That's a humping in anyone's book.

OMG_Ratarse lives near me! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-16 09:17:50
QUOTE(HamCam @ Sep 16 2007, 09:04 AM) [snapback]333857[/snapback]
You mean I am the third biggest shareholder in the Club ? Must spend the rest of the weekend preparing my takeover bid.

As for the sale of shares it seems clear from the statement that it is existing not new shares that are on offer.

I suspect it may be DDFR offering some of his shareholding to fans. He can easily dilute his shareholding while retaining overall control of the Club.

In case anyone takes this as a criticism of DDFR I would assure you it is not. What ever you may think of the man he is putting his money where his mouth is and taking on new shares to reduce Morton's debt on the balance sheet. At the same time he may also be giving all fans the opportunity to buy into the Club at an affordable level.

I could of course be adding 2 + 2 and making 3 ! In case anyone thinks this is the latest JM team formation lets not go there.

Possibly-a nice gentleman from the East has a little tranche similar to David Hopkin's-the rest are peanuts! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-16 09:22:01 We stayed to the bitter end-I wanted the full £5 worth out those b*****ds for the parking!
mortonjag 2007-09-16 09:26:49 Time to go home
Time to go home
Andy Arky and Teddy Toby
Are waving goodbye


GOODBYE
mortonjag 2007-09-16 09:35:40
QUOTE(HamCam @ Sep 16 2007, 09:28 AM) [snapback]333871[/snapback]
Right so I can bring him into my consortium. Always important to have a balanced team to address the press and DH can be our token ginger.

Great oaks from little acorns grow!
mortonjag 2007-09-16 09:37:47
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Sep 16 2007, 09:30 AM) [snapback]333872[/snapback]
Winning the challenge Cup may be Jim's saving grace this season.

Losing to E. Stirling must be unthinkable for him.

Then again it seems most thin.... unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-16 09:50:52
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 14 2007, 04:51 PM) [snapback]333043[/snapback]
laugh.gif
Mortonjag's being carted down to the cells as we speak.
It's a nice change of scenery from Ravenscraig. tongue.gif

I think you will find that Mortonjag is extremely careful in the way potentially contentious posts are worded, and should I become subject to censure either by the club or the 'Rag', I'd simply choose a more 'visible' publication. We are entirely free to voice OPINIONS.

This is just another example of club Chairmen who are detached from reality.
mortonjag 2007-09-16 10:24:10
QUOTE(montheton @ Sep 16 2007, 09:48 AM) [snapback]333879[/snapback]
yes, the fans have every right to voice their opinion but imo its jm`s fault trying to play sub-standard players in a league thats way out of their depth!

imo some looked out of their depth in the 2nd !!

Wouldn't quite agree with that.

The trouble is we just don't get any real insight into the relative roles of JM v Shoogly when it comes to signing policy.

I got the feeling that Jim was latterly pissed off with DDFR's obsession with Gowsa, and delighted when his recommendation (Gardyne) was signed.

I've already said Rae can't see past his 'kids'. It was no surprise to me that Brian Graham came on yesterday rather than Bobby Linn-yet more bad man management by JM (Bobby needs all the confidence he can get right now), or was it done to please 'God'?
mortonjag 2007-09-16 11:53:24
QUOTE(Jocky Wilson @ Sep 16 2007, 11:22 AM) [snapback]333927[/snapback]
It is the same old negative approach by Jim McInally. He is into the job near three years and still does not know his best team or winning formation. He has got to go. As for Dougie Rae going to dug out etc, he should be told to keep well clear.

Always the same rubbish after games "I can't fault the boys efforts, I hold my hands up" It is getting old!

We are now 3 points off the bottom and a wopping 11 off the top at this early stage!

Jim McInally has got to go in my opinion, he is far too negative and we have never won a "Big" match under his leadership. Dougie Rae needs to take a good look at what is going on and sort it out before we face division two in the face!!!

As for PieHutt, You talk the biggest pile of s***e on this message board!

F*ck-I feel threatened by a mere child. I must concentrate harder on the negative bleatings and spoutings of pish.
mortonjag 2007-09-16 11:57:42
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 16 2007, 10:41 AM) [snapback]333899[/snapback]
You sure about that? tongue.gif wink.gif

Don't get carried away by the recent liaison-I'm very adaptable.
mortonjag 2007-09-16 12:00:16
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 16 2007, 10:44 AM) [snapback]333900[/snapback]
Agreed. Winning the Challenge Cup will give McInally a reprieve though how long will depend on how well we pick up our league form.

Don't you have to score goals to win tournaments. Anybody had a peep at today's league tables?

Sorry reading. sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-16 12:20:06
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Sep 16 2007, 12:04 PM) [snapback]333947[/snapback]
As strange as it may seem I thought 4-0 flattered them. It was one of those days when the football gods were not smiling on us. One on one with the keeper when it seemed easy to score and then almost immediately two quick goals conceded. Templeman cracking the post and then heading over with an empty net beckoning.

A strange game, although I could go on ad nuseam about some of JM’s decisions, formation and tactics. Biggest gripe though is why we have two wee short arses up front and then lump the ball up on the air. Their number five looked in his early forties. All that was needed was ball on the deck, a bit of pace and then playing the ball in behind the defence. Still mystified why we can’t get Stevenson more involved in the game as he is the only guy willing (capable?) to put his foot on the ball.

Fair post HT, but there's the argument that 'you make your luck' and Livvi provided strong support for that yesterday.

I still DON'T believe our squad's as bad as some suggest, yet we're propping up the 'Goals for', and only three have more scored against them.

As always, I wonder about the Rae/JM combo in picking the team. A Livvi fan's saying on P & B that he can't understand why Sanny wasn't on from the start, but of course the two new boys were paraded out straight away, despite big Temps having proved he could be an excellent foil for Russell.
I'm well aware wee Gardyne played an excellent first half, but the end product was Zilch.

That's just one example of a large number of things which puzzle me.

We have one full back, who was started in midfield, and since JM arrived the only wingers we've had have been Andy McLaren and Ryan Russell (who hardly played a game).

Most of all the promise by JM that we'd get an experienced player-to put his foot on the ball-never materialised. McAnespie MAY fulfil that role, but I don't think he has the personality.

I'll never forget the way Jamie used to terrorise defences at Alloa. He's presently a shadow of his former self, and indeed seems almost to have given up at times.

I suggested many months ago that I suspected unrest in the dressing room, and as always got 'slaughtered' for that, but if anybody tells me the boys looked as though they were enjoying their football yesterday -even before Livvi's first goal- I'll crack his white stick over his head.

No 'feel good ' factor, a siege mentality, and fans who are rapidly losing patience. Seems the Shoogly Show needs a new producer and director.
mortonjag 2007-09-16 12:35:21
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Sep 16 2007, 12:37 AM) [snapback]333798[/snapback]
my mate said it was a folded over metallic pie holder thing. apparently the wind caught it and blew it into the linesman's neck. seriously, that's what he said.

i remember the days when it was fine to throw large vegetables at linesmen etc.

I remember the days when the officials less resembled vegetables.
mortonjag 2007-09-16 12:38:57
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Sep 16 2007, 11:03 AM) [snapback]333913[/snapback]
you're babbling again, adrian. your teachers must love you, imagine having to read a full essay of turgid crap like that.

Piles of turgid crap, and oceans of spouted pish-the forum sounds positively lavatorial.
mortonjag 2007-09-16 12:52:18 Is it further evidence of the apparent apathy behind closed doors at Scapa, that the Squad list is totally out of date?

I was checking to see if in fact we do have just two goalkeepers- I thought we might have a youngster too- only to find that Lee Robinson has still to be 'discovered'.

No doubt some will argue that the Official Site is effectively redundant except for news updates.

Why bother at all? mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-16 13:17:29 He's been very quiet this morning-that always means trouble!
mortonjag 2007-09-16 13:23:54 The new manager might well consider that possibility. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-16 13:25:44
QUOTE(Edinton @ Sep 16 2007, 01:05 PM) [snapback]333962[/snapback]
I'd reluctantly give him until January but if we carry on like this I doubt he'll get that long. Relegation will be bad for the accounts and Dougie's '3 year plan' so if we're struggling in January it'll be cheque book time. Heaven knows who Dougie will sign though...!

Pinocchio would be the ideal candidate.
mortonjag 2007-09-16 13:31:12
QUOTE(C B @ Sep 16 2007, 01:25 PM) [snapback]333974[/snapback]
As if you would ever cheat on Deego wink.gif

Those four big throbbing holes at the back really turn me on, but you're right young Deego was my first love!
mortonjag 2007-09-16 13:33:51
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 16 2007, 01:31 PM) [snapback]333982[/snapback]
Can even he solve our defensive problems though? unsure.gif tongue.gif

I hope you're not alluding to wooden performances!
mortonjag 2007-09-16 13:35:47
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 16 2007, 01:33 PM) [snapback]333986[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Sep 16 2007, 01:30 PM) [snapback]333981[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Mortonjag's monkey !

Is it a puppet? rolleyes.gif

HE is not a puppet-he is my constant companion on the way to and from games, and speaks much sense in between bananas.
mortonjag 2007-09-16 13:44:50
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Sep 16 2007, 01:36 PM) [snapback]333992[/snapback]
Respect is a two way thing. In no way am I condoning a player shouts back to the crowd, but these guys are trying to do a job and I know I wouldn't entertain anyone who abused me whilst trying to do a job; in fact if someone shouted that kind of stuff to someone else in a lot of professions, they would be charged.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Depends on many things. Over the years I've had the odd wee bit of abuse, but always by guys who were either mentally ill, drunk, or both. It would have been ridiculous to get upset or offended by them, let alone contemplate a 'charge'.

So why did the player/players in question assume the offending words came from a sane and sober mouth?

As others have suggested, if they can't live with it, they're in the wrong job.
mortonjag 2007-09-16 13:49:59
QUOTE(C B @ Sep 16 2007, 01:48 PM) [snapback]334002[/snapback]
Feel free to punch the first guy who asks "did you have a good weekend" on Monday rolleyes.gif

Not the blue car in the picture CB-PLEASE?
mortonjag 2007-09-16 14:51:55
QUOTE(standman @ Sep 16 2007, 02:21 PM) [snapback]334027[/snapback]
What would have happened yesterday if cars had just driven by the stewards and refused to pay £5 ?

Would they have been clamped ?

What could the police have done ?

Can you charge people without displaying notices about prices ?

And is it fair to charge buses and cars the same ?

Had you been driving yourself it would have cost you £21 to park and watch the game.

I was on the Albert bus therefore didn't incur the cost.

What does everyone think ?

I think the charge is outrageous, but we are free to boycott the parking if we choose. If we park on private property we are guilty of an offence. Would you like to come home and find somebody parked in your driveway? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-16 14:55:47
QUOTE(C B @ Sep 16 2007, 02:01 PM) [snapback]334009[/snapback]
No mine's is ok - and its silver, take off those rose coloured specs they are making you colour blind wink.gif

You mean it's NOT a lovely blue with that reg and the four lovely holes in the bum?
mortonjag 2007-09-16 14:58:47
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 16 2007, 02:10 PM) [snapback]334016[/snapback]
I think in the case of Harding - he has been playing with a niggling injury and so has obviously not been at his best. He obviously feels he is putting in a lot of effort playing with an injury and doesn't warrant a berrating from wee fat guys in the stand who couldn't run the length of themselves.

I personally think it is totally counter productive to shout abuse at players and don't buy this 'you pay your money etc' attitude. One guy in a crowd of 800 fans shouting something can have a negative effect that the 799 supportive fans won't compensate for.

Having said that, I have lost it with Finlayson in the past as he is pretty much the most frustrating player we have. But wouldn't shout anything when he is trotting past the stand and can hear every word.

FFS man he'd have to trumpet even louder than you to have half a chance of being heard!
mortonjag 2007-09-16 15:09:18
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 16 2007, 02:04 PM) [snapback]334011[/snapback]
The lack of ideas on this thread show why we'd be silly to get rid of Jim at the moment. There aren't a lot of managers not in work who would be better than Jim.

Also fewer who would come to Morton given how quick we are to get rid of Jim, just a few games into the season and having just been promoted. It would also cost us to get rid of Jim, as well as bring in a manager especially if we had to pay compensation.

I don't think we will get relegated. We have brought in a lot of players and have many to come back from injury. When the new guys have settled in and we don't have an injury crisis we will be in a better position to judge Jim in the 1st division.

The suggestions - Neil Warnock, never going to happen and has been said not exactly an expert of the 1st division.

Billy Reid - so he would move from a team flying at the top of the league and with a stadium pretty much SPL compliant to... Morton, just been promoted to the same league with no chance of playing in the SPL until we pretty much rebuild the whole ground and have a lot of arsehole fans who expect us to win every game. If we wanted to pursue him we'd need to offer silly money to Hamilton and Reid.

Janne Lindberg - again not been in the Scottish game for years and assuming he still works at a finish club would need to pay compensation.

Neil Watt - has a pretty successful day job as an accountant and won't move to a full time club.

We'd be silly to punt JM just because the 'rag' posters aren't au fait with the current 'behind the scenes' goings on in the football world.

You really are bending over backwards to defend a crumbling regime son. What's the point in suggesting in 99% of your threads that all is 'Hunky Dory', and then saying nobody wants to come to big bad Morton?

If the money was right, and the setup was right we could attract plenty of applicants. Grapevine knowledge of the 'Shoogly Show' would be the most probable reason for many NOT wanting to come IMO.
mortonjag 2007-09-16 15:30:35
QUOTE(standman @ Sep 16 2007, 03:10 PM) [snapback]334052[/snapback]
Depends what she looks like !

Which might depend on how much you charge. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-16 15:41:02
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Sep 16 2007, 03:29 PM) [snapback]334059[/snapback]
Anyone taken up this opportunity yet ??

Has it been in The Tele yet ??

No need for the Tilly -Willy (sorry-Willow)-it's been on GMFC.net-compulsary bedtime reading for all true fans! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-16 15:44:18
QUOTE(KATKIT @ Sep 16 2007, 03:41 PM) [snapback]334071[/snapback]
Because I WAS BORN IN GREENOCK.

Could you paste a copy of your birth certificate. I have grave reservations about somebody advertising Kitkat when Mr Rae's a Millions man.
mortonjag 2007-09-16 15:59:01
QUOTE(KATKIT @ Sep 16 2007, 03:47 PM) [snapback]334079[/snapback]
Nope , can you paste your bank details.

I was born in Rankin Memorial hospital across from the graveyard :)lived in Larkfield ? till I was 5.

So you don't have a birth certificate.
mortonjag 2007-09-16 16:01:48
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Sep 16 2007, 03:59 PM) [snapback]334096[/snapback]
Ahh right so an £85K bid for Gowsa isn't financial backing.

Offering John Sutton the best ever financial package he's ever been offered by any Scottish team isn't financial backing.

Going by some of your comments on threads you're just a wind-up merchant or else a very silly wee boy.

...or both and it usually sticks out a mile!
mortonjag 2007-09-16 16:02:56
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Sep 16 2007, 04:00 PM) [snapback]334098[/snapback]
any old excuse for a moan

Shouldn't you be preparing for the evening service Mr Rae?
mortonjag 2007-09-16 16:05:57
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Sep 16 2007, 03:54 PM) [snapback]334090[/snapback]
Not read all the posts but here's my tuppence worth:-

If several players have suddenly, out of character, started to react to the fans then that suggests more than them just being pissed off at getting beat today.

To me it suggests that they're not happy about things off the park as well.
By that I don't mean in the dressing room it could be at home or other personal issues as well.

Going by the amount of abuse Harding and others have taken on this board lately it's not surprising they snapped back.

They must realise themselves that JM keeps playing players out of position which is clearly having an adverse effect on the team.



...and little boys should be seen and not heard!
mortonjag 2007-09-16 16:11:52
QUOTE(KATKIT @ Sep 16 2007, 04:05 PM) [snapback]334106[/snapback]
My point is if fans barrack the players they wont perform,singing nd creating an atmosphere helps.

Do you get a big silver star in your school for stating the obvious son?

You're welcome on the forum, but please stop preaching when you don't know the facts. For the last two and a half seasons we've been treated to some of the most boring and negative football I've watched at Cappielow in almost fifty years.

I can assure you that when we've had a vocal opposing crowd, and played well (as against St Johnstone, and Killie) we were f*cking outstanding.

We pay our hard earned cash to be entertained. I was still clapping individual players efforts right up to the bitter end yesterday, but I have to confess I didn't go home hoarse like I used to in the good old days.
mortonjag 2007-09-16 16:14:01
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Sep 16 2007, 04:10 PM) [snapback]334111[/snapback]
What about old codgers ?

They have difficulty seeing and hearing.
mortonjag 2007-09-16 16:16:19
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Sep 16 2007, 04:14 PM) [snapback]334115[/snapback]
Thought that was pretty unfair - even my Dad disagreed with that when I told him last night. Shows how these clubs make their money mad.gif

We were stung-or maybe Pearced is more apt.
mortonjag 2007-09-16 16:30:27
QUOTE(KATKIT @ Sep 16 2007, 04:15 PM) [snapback]334116[/snapback]
Soz dude,Im glad youve cleared that up,Ive only been to Cappielow twice in the last year and the atmosphere was terrible.

How long you been going to watch Morton ?
Andie Richie who is a Morton legend played at Leeds and is now manager of Huddersfield would be a great manager for Morton one day IMO.

Started in 1959 I believe, when we were the joke of Scottish Football and languishing at the bottom of the old Second Division. My mate and I had been born in Greenock, and were at school in Paisley, but we saved up all week for the bus fare and gate money.

The next 15 years or so were a success story under Hal Stewart-who incidentally, like Douglas Rae, was a businessman (or salesman) and actually managed and directed the team despite NO footballing experience, for several years, before appointing the very successful pairing of Benny Rooney and Mike Jackson, under whom we had success for a while in the old Premier Division.

I well remember having over 12000 fans at Cappielow for a Second Division tie against Clyde, and about 21,000 for an evening cup tie against Motherwell. In those days we beat the Old Firm on several occasions, and were EXCITING to watch.

Well that's how I remember it anyway!
mortonjag 2007-09-16 16:49:17
QUOTE(Edinton @ Sep 16 2007, 04:38 PM) [snapback]334127[/snapback]
Peter copped a load of abuse after the third goal went in and we, unbelievably, looked like we might go in 4 - 0 down. But as I mentioned elsewhere I fear he simply was the closest to the crowd at that time and was also struggling in his strange new left sided centre back role. He said 'oh f**k off/up' incidentally, but I saw it more as an act of frustration (at the score/performance/situation...) rather than simple petulance.

That makes sense.
mortonjag 2007-09-16 16:57:08
QUOTE(KATKIT @ Sep 16 2007, 04:42 PM) [snapback]334128[/snapback]
You wonder why Im a bit out of date with Mortons facts,the webs***e is pish poor.

The Club just isn't interested in the Official Site as far as I can see, yet they are happy to have this message board described as a 'Rag'.

How much DO you know about Mr Rae, his wee Sweetie factory which churns out those household names you see down the aisles of every supermarket in Leeds, and the fact that he saved the club from certain death some six years ago?

He certainly has had considerable success in marketing his confectionery locally, but when it comes to the Club, for some strange reason, the very opposite seems to be the case.
mortonjag 2007-09-16 17:00:03
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Sep 16 2007, 04:59 PM) [snapback]334132[/snapback]
Dundee United won 2 nil with St Mirren down to 10 men laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2007-09-16 17:08:21
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Sep 16 2007, 05:05 PM) [snapback]334140[/snapback]
I think we've enough problems of our own to sort before we go laughing at the Midden in the SPL.

No harm in a bit of light relief from the daily drudgery of being a Ton fan ratarse! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-16 17:16:38
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Sep 16 2007, 05:10 PM) [snapback]334147[/snapback]
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What are the qualifications required for membership of the DUDE club.

Is DDFR a DUDE?
mortonjag 2007-09-16 17:26:34
QUOTE(big B @ Sep 16 2007, 05:18 PM) [snapback]334158[/snapback]
No right minded manager would come to Morton with interference in team affairs form the Mighty one you have got to wonder if that is also the reason that players are not coming to the club either the grapevine is mighter than the sword.

I'm certain that's correct. I've said before that I've sometimes felt downright sorry for JM, but at the end of the day, it was his choice. A move would probably be as good for him as for us. Why do the Directors appear to have nothing to say-EVER?
mortonjag 2007-09-16 17:31:36
QUOTE(Jim McInally @ Sep 16 2007, 05:23 PM) [snapback]334162[/snapback]
Where am i going ?? unsure.gif

That seems to be the story of your life Jimbo-please yourself, and remember to take the chewing gum off all the bugging devices in your office! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-16 17:35:49
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 16 2007, 05:29 PM) [snapback]334166[/snapback]
Cowboy lost the dressing room and half the team handed in transfer requests. That is why he left.

We have to 'recognise our defences ineptitude' Ok - so we do that, we still have the same players to play, a new manager can't do anything about that until at least Jan, assuming there would be cash to bring someone in after we spend it all sacking the manager and attracting a new one.

Mid-table is beyond us with Jim in charge? Eh, we are currently midtable so don't buy that argument.

Again, I don't see the point of worrying about cost/income? Rae is in charge and puts a lot of cash in. I don't think he's brilliant at what he does, but he's got the money and his heart is in the right place so I don't see what your comments are getting at? We should sack Rae and get some other rich Ton fan in?
Colin Hendry, Vladimir Romanov, Steven Kenny, Brian Irvine... and as you suggested Dick Campbell.
What if we got rid of McInally and Rae brought in Dick Campbell? Not beyond him at all given his lack of ability in the transfer market, better the devil you know an all that.

For once I believe you are correct, as he seems fairly healthy at the ripe old age of 76.
mortonjag 2007-09-16 17:37:07
QUOTE(big B @ Sep 16 2007, 05:31 PM) [snapback]334167[/snapback]
Well Jim Mcoll is supposed to be the fans mouthpiece at Cappielow does he tell the board or is he just happy to to get his freebies and hospitality.

I though he was one of the guys on the 'Beechgrove Garden'.
mortonjag 2007-09-16 17:38:37
QUOTE(Jim McInally @ Sep 16 2007, 05:22 PM) [snapback]334161[/snapback]
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....I'm not talking about the night life in Broughty Ferry!
mortonjag 2007-09-16 18:21:01
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 16 2007, 05:42 PM) [snapback]334175[/snapback]
Steven Kenny. WTF!! With pretty much last seasons SPL squad he is BELOW Jim's last season division 2 squad in the league. Judging by the resources / ability ratio that mean Allan Moore is better than McInally, then McInally must be better than Kenny.

The media seem to love Kenny for some reason, but don't see what he's done since he came to Dunfermline that has been all that great.

Brian Irvine, is barely literate and lost something like 11 games in a row with Elgin.

Colin Hendry, again well below Jim in the league so don't see how he's better. Also sacked from Blackpool for mass mediocrity. No way does he have a better record than Jim.

Sometimes young man, you are an utter clot. I know Brian personally-his family were all patients of mine in Airdrie, and a nicer guy, who is FAR from illiterate, you couldn't meet. Brian would be the first to admit he's not the greatest manager in the world.

As for Kenny, his past record speaks for itself, and the Pars will be in there at the death IMO.

Oh and BTW you are right-Moore is a FAR better manager than JM.
mortonjag 2007-09-16 19:58:33
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Sep 16 2007, 06:41 PM) [snapback]334191[/snapback]
Nowhere, I hope. As "you" said in the post match interview , we can turn things round. If clubs allowed the fainthearts and boo boys to dictate the fate of the manager , half the managers in the sfl would have been sacked already. The names suggested as your successor are frankly laughable. laugh.gif

We knew the 'first' wasn't going to be easy in this transitional season. We have the players and manager to consolidate our place in it.

When the going gets tough.......................... MJ and the moaners squeal like bitches.

Correction cloth ears-the going has been made tough by the very Club and Manager you claim 'knew it wouldn't be easy'.

We have a nucleus of good players. I'm rather sick of the usual sweeping comments about my opinions, when I have ALWAYS claimed that two or three judicious signings could have seen us challenge for promotion.

Why was nothing done?

Why was almost 100k wantonly tossed at Celtic for a kiddie?

Why were two signings made within hours of the deadline?

Why were we (apparently) fed lies and rumours throughout the closed season?

McAnespie asked to come to us.

Rangers offered Robinson to the whole first division.

Coakley's signing seems not to have produced much to date.

Yes Fairy Bent Nose, evidence of a superb master plan is there for all to see.

All-- who stubbornly and blindly refuse to face reality when its 'Grim Reaper' image is a millimetre off their retinae. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-16 20:06:19 SURELY not that much.
mortonjag 2007-09-16 20:14:21
QUOTE(Marshall2oo6 @ Sep 16 2007, 08:03 PM) [snapback]334232[/snapback]
After the attempts to sign Sutton, Mensing and McGowan the chairman is maybe looking to sign a player who he will make a profit from if hes sold as to maybe recoup some of his losses and escape?

Not saying that this is what he will do but it would make sense in a way instead of him shelling money out on the "experienced" player that we need that would have a lower value in 1 or 2 years time? He seemed intent on getting McGowan even after the manager being reported in the paper saying that he wasn't worth the amount we were bidding.

I don't think the Chairman has an earthly clue what he wants or where he's going. How can you suggest that he has the wit to concoct such an original plan ( laugh.gif ) when he believes 'those boys deserve the chance to take us forward'.

He's been playing with his new toy for five years, and still doesn't know where the bloody batteries go.

The Shoogly show is 'Old Hat'. He can only now save face by stepping aside, and appointing a competent Director of Football. Everything else would then fall into place, though I guess he's already set us back two seasons.

JM is just the pawn in this silly game of chess, and I'm afraid it's best that he's sacrificed early rather than late. I've said elsewhere it will also give him a chance to work in a football club instead of the crumbling empire of a deluded autocrat.
mortonjag 2007-09-16 20:20:08
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 16 2007, 08:10 PM) [snapback]334237[/snapback]
Says the anorak approaching 12,000 posts.

At least after that number of posts, most reasonable folk are now admitting I've had a point from day one. Will it take another 12,000 before reality penetrates your thick skull.

NO, because long before that, events will have overtaken us, and you'll be sitting alone crying into your beer. sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-16 20:41:32
QUOTE(Marshall2oo6 @ Sep 16 2007, 08:23 PM) [snapback]334242[/snapback]
A suppose though he did say to the Tele that he wouldn't sell McCalister for £150,000.

Precisely-Jimbo is one of his 'children', whom I imagine he believes will be 'within the family so long as there's breath in his (Shoogly's) body. blink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-16 20:44:49
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 16 2007, 06:08 PM) [snapback]334180[/snapback]
MJ must be on double doses this weekend, he's talking sense again! ohmy.gif unsure.gif tongue.gif

I'll 'double doses' you, you cheeky young whippersnapper. My psychiatrist has been delighted with my progress for the last three weeks, and I'm on half the previous dose.
mortonjag 2007-09-16 20:47:02
QUOTE(Ossian @ Sep 16 2007, 08:25 PM) [snapback]334243[/snapback]
Haw Haw is just a fisherman FFS. laugh.gif

...and a rather poor one to boot.
mortonjag 2007-09-16 20:50:18
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 16 2007, 08:47 PM) [snapback]334248[/snapback]
Hope you enjoyed the game. I didn't see it, but I imagined that Sevilla would dish out a rogering, and it appears that they did.

Recre are generally crap at the back but even so, the second successive 4-goal tally for Sevilla at home (and their 3rd in 4 overall; they papped AEK 4-1 in Greece a couple of weeks back) is bloody impressive.

I'm a Getafe fan but I just love watching Sevilla, I just hope they can keep that side together because they're amazing to watch.

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Plenty of get aff fans at Scapa those days Nach0-will be interesting to see the crowd against the real Saints.
mortonjag 2007-09-16 21:00:36 I'm doing my best to muster up enthusiasm for this one. On paper we should gub a side two divisions below us, but it is a cup tie. My head says I'm on a hiding to nothing if I choose to go. Petrol to Greenock and back tomorrow for a ticket, and a lone trip to Falkirk for me and the Monkey, as my brother has a prior commitment. If we play well, and win convincingly, we'll simply have beaten a side who until very recently were the joke of Scottish Football-will that prove very much-and anything less is not happy to contemplate.

Having said all that, I'll be there. After all I'm a Ton supporter, and will be 'as long as there's breath in my body'. laugh.gif

C'mon lads-turn it on for the fans and they'll turn it on for you.
mortonjag 2007-09-16 21:16:11
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 16 2007, 09:09 PM) [snapback]334252[/snapback]
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(You know what I mean. I love Getafe, but if Morton ever played them, there'd only be one team I'd be cheering on.)

In any case, the G's pronounced... oddly. It's kind of like a Scottish -ch, but slightly softer. Failing that, just pretend it's an "h".

I'll be there, season book in hand, teeth grinding in frustration rolleyes.gif biggrin.gif But I can see sub-2,000 crowds before the season's out...

....UNLESSS.... unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-17 06:05:38
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Sep 17 2007, 12:13 AM) [snapback]334299[/snapback]
WWDLLLLLL THIS IS HOW IT WILL LOOK IN AROUND 3 WEEKS IF THINGS DONT GET SORTED, ST.J, DUNDEE AND PARTICK WILL BE CHOKING TO PLAY US, OH AND FORGOT TO MENTION EAST STIRLINGSHIRE WILL BE QUIETLY CONFIDENT AS WELL.

Not necessarily-the unknown quantity has always been how the boys play on the park irrespective of the Chairman and manager's 'input'.

Our lads are NOT as bad as they are being painted-this doesn't have to be 'throw baby and bathwater out' stuff.

I put this to you.

If Rae had a clear policy, and saw promotion this season as the only way ahead, (given that he HAS enough money), it is STILL possible.

Sadly I believe he's quite happy playing with his ego boosting toy, while concentrating whatever business sense he has left, on Golden Casket.

In that sense, the lesser of two evils in the longer term may be exactly the string of results you highlight. sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-17 06:09:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 17 2007, 01:17 AM) [snapback]334310[/snapback]
from memory, noble is another word for inert.

Noble and JM in the one sentence ???

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Are you implying that JM has a helium filled cranium?
mortonjag 2007-09-17 06:14:47
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Sep 17 2007, 01:05 AM) [snapback]334307[/snapback]
Short term memory difficulty. We just latch onto the last thing he said (or selective hearing, take yer pick rolleyes.gif ) I believe that fans are too quick to pull the plug on managers. I'm too smeekit to give some of the many classic examples , but off the top of my heid............... (Sir )Alex Ferguson - was he not binned by the soap dodgers ? McLeish was berated by the 'loyal' support at Greyskull and for him it was TTG. How long ago was that ? and he now is at the helm of the 'best ever 'Scotland result and being lauded for his team selection etc.
Not predicting a Sir James McInally by any means but .......................... shouting for his head on a plate at this early stage is just plain wrong. BTW don't you think that Saturday's result for the huns was a shocker for Walter Smith? - the worst for how many years but - he's a hero blink.gif

KTF brother .

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mortonjag 2007-09-17 06:19:14
QUOTE(Palaceman @ Sep 17 2007, 01:18 AM) [snapback]334311[/snapback]
Come on guys. This is very depressing reading.

In all honesty, what did you expect from this season? Did you think you were going to saunter through the league like last time? I remember logging on to this website after the first match of the season, and indeed there were several on here who were talking as though promotion was a likelihood. I think that's a large part of the problem - the expectation level is too great.

You have a Manager who did absolutely everything that was asked of him last season. Surely he deserves more than a handful of matches this term before the knives come out. A season of consolidation, avoiding relegation, and building a team that will cope better next time is what he should be aiming for. And he surely merits a few months to get the thing operating a bit more effectively.

He certainly didn't do what I was asking of him. Do you follow the Ton? If so you must be a bloody masochist to have come out with that statement.

On a level playing field I'd agree with your general points, but JM has, in almost three years, proved to be one of the most negative, unimaginative, and uninspirational characters I've ever seen in a dugout.
mortonjag 2007-09-17 06:25:51
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Sep 17 2007, 01:27 AM) [snapback]334312[/snapback]
As usual Palaceman, you've nailed it. No doubt you'll be slated for yer geographical disadvantage, but I've been watching most of the games and you are talking the most sense. btw did you see that we had another Palace fan on board ?(can't remember his username atm)

Oh I guess that'll be the Plinth of Wails.

He too seems to get pleasure from gazing regularly at a singularly unattractive spectacle.
mortonjag 2007-09-17 06:30:56
QUOTE(alexp @ Sep 17 2007, 03:07 AM) [snapback]334316[/snapback]
who on here writes for the matchday programme? please pm me. wink.gif

Try info@gmfc.net, and ask for a Mr Rae.
mortonjag 2007-09-17 06:38:37
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Sep 17 2007, 04:15 AM) [snapback]334318[/snapback]
Put your toys back in your pram it was only a question

Scott-what exactly is your agenda if it was 'only a question'.

I thought you had a wee bit of background knowledge at Cappielow, and according to Shoogles $40,000 would run the youth set up for a mere four or five months.

It wasn't a question, of course, was it-surely you're not that glaicet?

Every time a clot like you starts to poke cheap fun at NewTON over this issue, you're risking a full exposure of the whole sorry catalogue of bungles and possible intrigue at the Shoogly Show.

At the present time I'd have thought the matter would be best laid to rest.
mortonjag 2007-09-17 06:41:06
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Sep 17 2007, 04:19 AM) [snapback]334319[/snapback]
We are friendly with people behind the scenes but it does not cloud my judgement

I agree with many that on Saturday our tactics cost us the game but dont think having polls every other day on whether the manager should go or not acieves anything except take up room on the board !

We got ripped down ther left wing lost our shape for the second and third goal . I think we have a lot of injuries just now and believe the team will come good over the season . remember to consolodate in this league should be considered a good achievement this year

Who gave you this information? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-17 06:48:25
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 16 2007, 11:22 AM) [snapback]333926[/snapback]
Exactly. You get punished in this league for conceeding chances and we should set out to be hard to beat.

I'm getting old and weary son-maybe I've missed something, but when I was your age you got points for scoring more goals than the other lot-IN ANY LEAGUE.
mortonjag 2007-09-17 06:51:06
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Sep 16 2007, 05:41 PM) [snapback]334174[/snapback]
should you naw be at tannadice?

I am NOT JM. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-17 06:54:01
QUOTE(KATKIT @ Sep 16 2007, 10:48 PM) [snapback]334289[/snapback]
Queen of the South at home a few weeks ago.
Dont forget Im used to Elland Road, so Cappie is a bit run down in my eyes.,

I thought he looked quite energetic at that game!
mortonjag 2007-09-17 06:59:31
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 17 2007, 05:47 AM) [snapback]334321[/snapback]
the thing that gets me about the rag comment is as if its the website that says all the negative stuff. but the website is just a place for morton FANS to talk about morton. its not the websites opinions, so basically he's calling morton fans a rag. most of the diehard morton fans use this site, the ones that use the internet anyway so imo he's disrespecting morton fans and not this forum. if there was anywhere official for morton fans to have a discussion or even find out news about their team or who was in their squad then we'd all use it. now all we use it for is to see crappy quality goals and to find out who our right back was 4 years ago inthe squad details.

In fairness, the 'Rag' comment was of the throwaway variety, and was made by Crawford and not Papa.

It was, however, evidence of the low regard in which the average Ton fan is held by our esteemed Chairman and his minions.

'A true Morton fan'
'Morton through and through'
'His heart's in the right place'.

Those are also examples of mindless 'throwaway' comments.
mortonjag 2007-09-17 07:04:53
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Sep 17 2007, 06:56 AM) [snapback]334333[/snapback]
It's devastating reading through all this. From the quotes above there seems to be a really bad atmosphere at the matches at the moment. On another thread it mentions that something was thrown at a linesman.

My 8 year old nephew has only just began watching his new hero's. I have telephoned my sister and suggested to her that she does not let him to see Morton until the atmosphere improves.

I think that it would be bad experiance for kids to have to witness all this stuff and could put them off being Morton supporters for ever. I think fans and players alike should ''think'' carefully about their actions and the influence/responsibility they have.

I also think that 99% of Morton supporters are mature sensible adults , but sadly there is cringeworthy amount of venomous bile spouted at times from a minority of serial offenders.

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mortonjag 2007-09-17 07:11:28
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Sep 17 2007, 12:38 AM) [snapback]334304[/snapback]
I love you already tongue.gif

Bet you're a guy poster in disguise xx tongue.gif

Guess the clue's in the avatar Willow-quite a nice 'ash' too I'd suggest!
mortonjag 2007-09-17 07:13:08
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Sep 17 2007, 12:03 AM) [snapback]334297[/snapback]
It's not rocket science, hanging wallpaper is a piece of piss. Save yourself the money and do it yourself

I could say the same of removing an appendix.
mortonjag 2007-09-17 08:48:01
QUOTE(para @ Sep 17 2007, 07:39 AM) [snapback]334339[/snapback]
mj you are going on ignore again

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mortonjag 2007-09-17 08:53:46
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 17 2007, 07:39 AM) [snapback]334340[/snapback]
At the present time I'd have thought the matter would be best laid to rest.

... laid to rest ??

But, sir, Sugar Rae has granted Stanley an audience, I believe.

Dr Livingstone, I presume ?

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The position Shoogly's in at the moment could well be described as 'Missionary'.

I won't go into detail. Children post here.
mortonjag 2007-09-17 08:57:34
QUOTE(Youngsa @ Sep 17 2007, 07:57 AM) [snapback]334342[/snapback]
If there was an official messageboard controlled by the club, the post deletion button would work faster than Edinton could sell tickets for the Festival.

Do you honestly think Dougie would allow the full and frank discussions about him/his manager/his team taking place on here, to take place on his own version of the interweb?

Long live the lack of a messageboard at the official site.

You appear to be hinting that our Chairman is uninterested in the views of his fellow fans.
mortonjag 2007-09-17 09:02:57
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 17 2007, 07:59 AM) [snapback]334343[/snapback]
Hmm, I think the most successsful manager in club history is not really comparable to the incompetent arm-folder. blink.gif
Saturday's result for Rangers wasn't worse than some of their results last season, so I think you're going way over the top on that account as well. blink.gif
A manager as incompetent as he will remain incompetent.
Its time to go.

VT, you really seem to have it in for JM.

It's time to go-sure-but we don't know just how much his development has been hampered by other issues at GMFC.

It's possible that in a totally different environment, working with folk who can bring out his best qualities, Jim may yet have some managerial success.
mortonjag 2007-09-17 09:07:15
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Sep 17 2007, 09:01 AM) [snapback]334349[/snapback]
Firstly i don't think it fair to speculate on someone's replacement whilst they are still in a job , however , as many others have followed your lead with suggestions then i would like to say who i would consider a good candidate for the morton managers job.

I'd like to suggest a man who guided his club to three successive scottish league championships in a row and scottish cup final ; former Morton hero Rowan Alexander. I don't know the ins and outs of his legal situation with Gretna but i reckon if avaialble then Rowan would be revelation as manager at Cappielow.

Alexander would never cope with Shoogly and vice versa.
mortonjag 2007-09-17 09:10:24
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 17 2007, 07:36 AM) [snapback]334338[/snapback]
Gidday Dr Jag,

Whit about the removal of a brain ??

Do some require microsurgery ??

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That and a large dose of faith! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-17 09:18:48
QUOTE(C B @ Sep 17 2007, 09:17 AM) [snapback]334354[/snapback]
BOOM BOOM laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2007-09-17 09:33:36
QUOTE(Youngsa @ Sep 17 2007, 09:20 AM) [snapback]334356[/snapback]
Puts Civil Service head on and replies

You might say that but I couldn't possibly comment wink.gif

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mortonjag 2007-09-17 09:40:27
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 17 2007, 09:31 AM) [snapback]334359[/snapback]
The summer transfer window and the signing of just one defender was a joke and has set the tone for the rest of the season.

To be fair, I very much doubt that this decision was solely down to Jim.

Exactly, I've never believed that JM had either the experience or personality to cope with our 'hands on' Chairman.

I also suspect that the full extent of the latter's meddling has yet to be exposed, and 0/10 for those who have persisted with the 'Lord and Saviour' get out clause for far too long.

In terms of progress, it's evident that Rae is now the *potential ethnic slur removed* in the woodpile, but I guess we're stuck with things as they are, barring a miracle! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-17 11:14:49
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Sep 17 2007, 10:34 AM) [snapback]334371[/snapback]
It is an interesting question; name a better manager to fill JM’s boots. It is also an easy way to defend the un-defendable (a bit like our defence) and thus to stick with the status-quo. I am sorry to say it but I have never been convinced by JM. There are lots of managers who would improve Morton and by that token they are already in gainful employment. Thus, what can be done to bring in a manger with the necessary qualities?

1. Take a punt on an up and coming manager
2. Burst the bank to bring in a manager from a bigger team
3. Bring in an experienced manager who in the past has been successful, but presently not directly involved in the game.

Personally speaking I think option three is the best way forward. Preferably one with a bit of back-bone and with a real passion for the game (unlike the wooden top we presently have). Somebody in the mould of Alex McDonald who on a shoe string budget was very successful with both Hearts and The Wee Huns.

I couldn't agree more HT, but I fear this is the rock on which we may perish. Unless I'm very much mistaken, Rae is NEVER going to appoint anybody unless he (Rae) has the final say in all matters. He clearly can't delegate even the most rudimentary task, his co-directors are NEVER heard, and he pathologically believes he's always right, having articles printed in the Tilly or his programme notes to attack all who question the stability of the Shoogly Show. unsure.gif

In no way has this failed to reach the grapevine, and I very much doubt that we'll ever see a manager with balls while our maister has 'breath in his body'.
mortonjag 2007-09-17 11:18:30
QUOTE(Lovedaddy @ Sep 17 2007, 10:11 AM) [snapback]334365[/snapback]
How exactly is crap tactics, playing players out of position, Standing like a plank in the dug out, Making down right stupid subsitutions and along calamity Greacen to be ou captain DDRs fault?

Mcinally has show nothing at his time here. He failed miserably in the Play off because he hasnt a clue.
We won the league last year in spite of his stupidity and finally this season the majority of fans are starting to seeing he does not have a clue.

Presumably he signed JM, or did I miss something!
mortonjag 2007-09-17 11:52:26 Of the six players out through injury at the weekend, only Alex Walker looks possible to return. Those remaining unavailable are Chris Millar -- who has pulled a hamstring and could be out for a month -- Kieran McAnespie, David McGregor, Scott McLaughlin, and second choice goal-keeper David McGurn.

(from Inverclyde Now)


Why a full time first division outfit should ever have gone to a League match without a stand in goalie is a mystery to me.

I presume this will be fixed in time for tomorrow night.

Was there something about wee Gowsa's ability between the sticks that nobody had ever guessed at? dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-17 12:01:01
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Sep 17 2007, 11:54 AM) [snapback]334398[/snapback]
Nacho / Div : Please remove the image of Paul McGowan from the banner of this forum. Thanks.

Is he DEFINITELY not coming back then? I'd kinda been expecting a revised offer of 175k, lifetime free Fudgy Wudgys for the Cellic big knobs, and an appeal to the SFA that we could still play him because Shoogly had been unaware of the rules.
mortonjag 2007-09-17 12:13:51
QUOTE(Lindberg6 @ Sep 17 2007, 11:56 AM) [snapback]334399[/snapback]
looking at it from another point of view - I'd be looking more at the managerial appointments Douglas Rae has made.

Ok, McInally may not be the best manager in the world but I'm sure he is doing the best we can.

We have to look at who gave him the job? The same man that employed, Dave McPherson, John McCormack, Peter Cormack.....etc etc etc

We haven't had any continuity in terms of managers but that has been down to Dougie constantly getting his appointments wrong imo.

If I appoint someone in my team in work and they turn out to be less than successful - the question will be asked of ME, why did I employ them and I will take the responsibility for them not being what was required.

I do think Dougie needs to carry at least one handle of the can as his managerial appointments have been very poor imo.

And if you ultimately prove to have been incompetent you'll be fired.


Who's going to fire Shoogly? dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-17 12:16:37
QUOTE(centralTON @ Sep 17 2007, 12:09 PM) [snapback]334401[/snapback]
MJ, did we not sign some goalie from Dumbarton before we got Robinson on loan?

There was a rumour about young Grindlay-but that's all it was. We had no goalie on the bench on Saturday, and none is listed in the 'Squad'.
mortonjag 2007-09-17 12:26:02
QUOTE(centralTON @ Sep 17 2007, 12:22 PM) [snapback]334409[/snapback]
wink.gif wink.gif

Yeh, MJ, i was surprised on Saturday when we had no keeper on the bench, but, thought it was maybe a stroke of tactical genius from JM.

laugh.gif

Aye-he probably had guessed we'd get humped, and hoped Robinson would get sent off so he could have the ideal excuse! ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-17 12:29:54
QUOTE(Lord Haw haw @ Sep 17 2007, 12:22 PM) [snapback]334410[/snapback]
One must question some of our so called fans on this forum.Some of the abuse directed towards our Chairman is foul and not acceptable.Dougie is a life long fan of Morton and as we all know he has funded the club from his own pocket.I am appauled by the abuse this man has taken on this forum,some people just do not know when they have a good thing.I salute you Dougie my old friend and i sincerely hope you do not read this forum as many of the posters do not know how to support a club.

Morton till i die.

Rule Britannia.

Away and f*ck yourself-you wouldn't know Shoogly if turned up from the Pharmacy with your Largactil.
mortonjag 2007-09-17 12:34:09
QUOTE(moneton!!! @ Sep 17 2007, 12:31 PM) [snapback]334414[/snapback]
We only need one keeper. So we don't a one on the bench, that's just a risk we are going to have to take.

You are absolutely right, and of course only ten outfield players as well.!!!!! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-17 12:36:24
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 17 2007, 12:34 PM) [snapback]334415[/snapback]
Hi LL. The best guy I would recomend is Stuart McDonald. He lives in Mearns Street, just around the corner from my folks house. I went to college with him donkeys years ago. I haven't seen him for years and I don't know what his prices are, but his work is top notch. Last number I have for him is 888929.

I've heard he now works as a male stripper Weegie.
mortonjag 2007-09-18 05:31:38
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Sep 17 2007, 02:22 PM) [snapback]334487[/snapback]
Agenda ? Well I asked the question in order tog get answer

Background knowledge ? whats that got to do with the cost of the youth system . I didnt suggest $40000 would run the youth set up I merely suggested investing in it

Poke fun ? [b]He is in a huff cause Jim and dougie didnt phone his m8 back[/b] -- Newton & MJ -- Get over it !!

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


For someone who claims to be the manager of a commercial enterprise Son, if that's your honest take on what really happened, I can see you're going to go very far!!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-18 05:35:35
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 17 2007, 04:47 PM) [snapback]334534[/snapback]
Well, if he is, he won't be on the bench.

....erm-this is Morton Nach0 !
mortonjag 2007-09-18 05:38:09 I got my ticket yesterday-they are of remarkably good quality, and could probably be used over and over again.
mortonjag 2007-09-18 05:49:49
QUOTE(Lord Haw haw @ Sep 17 2007, 04:34 PM) [snapback]334530[/snapback]
Never in all my years have I heard one man who can talk as much rubbish as MortonJag.If I was Dougie I would expel you from Cappielow,I would have a banning order imposed upon you.The slanderous muck you throw towards Dougie on this forum is incredibly nasty.It is hard to believe one can be drip fed s*** but you are the living human proof.Now if you are a true Morton fan then take the advice below.

Anti-psychotic medications have been available since the mid-1950s.They have greatly improved the outlook for individual patients.These medications reduce the psychotic symptoms of schizophrenia and usually allow the patient to function more effectively and appropriately.Anti-psychotic drugs are the best treatment now available,but they do not cure schizophrenia or ensure that there will be no further psychotic episodes.
Risperidone, Aripiprazole,Quetiapine, and Olanzapine are drugs that may help you but they certainly will not cure your schizophrenia.Please consult your GP asap.

I've seen that standard hand out from Carstairs many a time as a visiting physician Hee Haw-hopefully they've given due consideration to your discharge.
mortonjag 2007-09-18 05:56:41
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 17 2007, 06:19 PM) [snapback]334567[/snapback]
So 3 people not happy with a 6th place finish. Any comments from them?

Just a wee exercise to show that losing 3 games is not the end of the world, and certainly after 6 games our position isn't too bad.

People have to revise their expectations now we are in a higher league, and panic changing of managers is not necessary so early in the campaign. I'm sure there's plenty of people who make no secret that they've never liked Jim and we've had plenty of threads on here debating the merits of Jim's time at Morton. Certainly after 3 losses, they have a head of steam up now.

However we are where we are now, having improved our league position every season under McInally. Also consider Rae hasn't the best of record at contract dealing so if we were to get rid of Jim, then there is no guarantee we'd find a suitable replacement.

Sure, there are better managers than Jim about, but who's to say we'd be able to attract any. Added to that the cost of buying out Jim AND attracting a new managerial team, as well as a period of instability without a manger etc. All points to the fact we should stick with what we've got for the time being.

Do you drive by any chance?

It's just that with that amount of all round perception I'd like a note of your Reg No. so that I can steer a wide berth.
mortonjag 2007-09-18 06:02:56
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 17 2007, 09:53 PM) [snapback]334778[/snapback]
Booting the official site is a bit of an open goal. It's always been complete s***e.

Hopefully of the well impacted variety.
mortonjag 2007-09-18 06:12:06
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 17 2007, 02:05 PM) [snapback]334480[/snapback]
I totally disagree that Rae needs to go. I just think he needs to delegate.

Even if the team affairs are far from perfect, there are still tangible improvements: Cappielow is a ground to be proud of (well, largely speaking) and our training facilities are probably the best in the SFL.

I seem to remember somebody saying that rather a long time ago.

A rather unpopular chap, as I recall.
mortonjag 2007-09-18 06:22:07 We seem to be in general agreement on this.

What would happen if the rest of the Board voted to appoint a salaried Director of Football?

Shoogly would still be Chairman-he wouldn't have to lose face.

The difficulty, of course, would be getting him to accept that somebody else was running HIS club.

Is it impossible?
mortonjag 2007-09-18 06:31:25
QUOTE(KATKIT @ Sep 17 2007, 07:16 PM) [snapback]334636[/snapback]
Ok Pick the team and formation you would use.

I'm surprised so many fell for this.

IF I was the Morton Manager, I'd presumably have got the squad sorted out in the closed season.

The way it is, you'd be as well pulling names out of a hat.
mortonjag 2007-09-18 06:40:37 Is this creature Sick Mick mark 2?
mortonjag 2007-09-18 06:54:55
QUOTE(Marshall2oo6 @ Sep 17 2007, 08:28 PM) [snapback]334738[/snapback]
Can anybody give me info on how to wipe my pc so it is back to the factory settings? I have bought a boot cd from ebay but am not exactly sure what I'm doing? I have windows xp

If you have the original XP installation CD ROM, you can run it again, and it will offer you the option of either repairing the current installation or installing from new. I'm assuming you still want to run XP using this new 'boot CD'.
mortonjag 2007-09-18 07:03:51 I'm a crackers man. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-18 07:06:08
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Sep 17 2007, 08:25 PM) [snapback]334735[/snapback]
I

1 Sundown on the high stonefields!
2 The darkening roofscape stirs---
3 thick---alive with starlings
4 gathered singing in the square---
5 like a shower of arrows they cross
6 the flash of a western window,
7 they bead the wires with jet,
8 they nestle preening by the lamps
9 and shine, sidling by the lamps
10 and sing, shining, they stir
11 the homeward hurrying crowds.
12 A man looks up and points
13 smiling to his son beside him
14 wide-eyed at the clamour on those cliffs---
15 it sinks, shrills out in waves,
16 levels to a happy murmur,
17 scatters in swooping arcs,
18 a stab of confused sweetness
19 that pierces the boy like a story,
20 a story more than a song.
21 He will never forget that evening,
22 the silhouette of the roofs,
23 the starlings by the lamps.


24 The City Chambers are hopping mad.
25 Councillors with rubber plugs in their ears!
26 Secretaries closing windows!
27 Window-cleaners want protection and danger money.
28 The Lord Provost can't hear herself think, man.
29 What's that?
30 Lord Provost, can't hear herself think.

31 At the General Post Office
32 the clerks write Three Pounds Starling in the savings-books.
33 Each telephone-booth is like an aviary.
34 I tried to send a parcel to County Kerry but---
35 The cables to Cairo got fankled, sir.
36 What's that?
37 I said the cables to Cairo got fankled.




38 And as for the City Information Bureau---
39 I'm sorry I can't quite chirrup did you twit---
40 No I wanted to twee but perhaps you can't cheep---
41 Would you try once again, that's better, I---sweet---
42 When's the last boat to Milngavie? Tweet?
43 What's that?
44 I said when's the last boat to Milngavie?



45 There is nothing for it now but scaffolding:
46 clamp it together, send for the bird-men,
47 Scarecrow Strip for the window-ledge landings,
48 Cameron's Repellent on the overhead wires.
49 Armour our pediments against eavesdroppers.
50 This is a human outpost. Save our statues.
51 Send back the jungle. And think of the joke:
52 as it says in the papers, It is very comical
53 to watch them alight on the plastic rollers
54 and take a tumble. So it doesn't kill them?
55 All right, so who's complaining? This isn't Peking
56 where they shoot the sparrows for hygiene and cash.
57 So we're all humanitarians, locked in our cliff-dwellings
58 encased in our repellent, guano-free and guilt-free.
59 The Lord Provost sings in her marble hacienda.
60 The Postmaster-General licks an audible stamp.
61 Sir Walter is vexed that his column's deserted.
62 I wonder if we really deserve starlings?
63 There is something to be said for these joyous messengers
64 that we repel in our indignant orderliness.
65 They lift up the eyes, they lighten the heart,
66 and some day we'll decipher that sweet frenzied whistling
67 as they wheel and settle along our hard roofs
68 and take those grey buttresses for home.
69 One thing we know they say, after their fashion.
70 They like the warm cliffs of man.

and i didn't just break any copyright laws ph34r.gif

edited to tidy it up and remove the clues

If that's poetry, Picasso was an artist.
mortonjag 2007-09-18 07:10:13
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 17 2007, 11:20 PM) [snapback]334818[/snapback]
Came down the motorway on the way back from Livingston and saw a Porsche Carrera with reg number

P15 AFF

Shame he could have got the extra 5

I guess he saw that on a Reliant Robin and it made him angry!

I always wanted UPU 2 or FU 2
mortonjag 2007-09-18 07:23:58 Given that our 'rag' does seem to come to the attention of those at Cappielow, and in the wake of recent posting activity, I'd like to seriously propose that Douglas Rae should step gracefully aside, and appoint someone to run the club.

I have complete respect for him as a fellow man, but sincerely believe his personality (which is not of his own choosing), is currently dragging the club down.

I do, of course, acknowledge, and am grateful for the ongoing financial input, but power must surely come with responsibility for the common good.

I think a simple 'Yes-No' poll is the most accurate way of assessing general feeling, though personal comments are needed to give some extra insight into opinion.
mortonjag 2007-09-18 07:54:20 Guilty: first Scots Islamic terrorist facing 15 years
DAMIEN HENDERSON September 18 2007 (From today's 'Herald')

A young Muslim was last night facing up to 15 years in jail after his conviction as Scotland's first home-grown Islamic terrorist.

Mohammed Siddique, 21, from Alva, Clackmannanshire, was found guilty at the High Court in Glasgow of being a "wannabe suicide bomber" who provided training material useful to terrorists via websites he set up and ran. He had accessed password-protected websites used only by the most senior of players in al Qaeda's online operation.

Security sources claimed yesterday the former computing student was also involved in plans to detonate a truck bomb in a shopping mall in Canada and had been held at Glasgow Airport to prevent him from linking up with a Canadian terror cell.
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However, police attempted to forestall any backlash against Scotland's Muslims, insisting Siddique's conviction was for individual criminal acts and did not reflect on the wider community.

Assistant chief constable Maureen Brown of Central Scotland Police, who was in charge of Operation Niche, which led to Siddique's arrest 18 months ago, said the case showed terrorism was no longer a threat Scotland could ignore.

She said: "This case and other recent events have shown that terrorism is not just an issue for the major cities in England. The threat is with us now, it's real and we should all take responsibility for helping to tackle it."

Home Secretary Jacqui Smith said: "The successful conviction of the individual today in Glasgow is a reminder that the threat we face from terrorism is real and not isolated to any particular region."

The court heard Siddique had distributed training documents, including bomb-making and weapons assembly, and al Qaeda propaganda video messages recorded by Osama bin Laden, urging attacks against British and US targets. They were described during his four-week trial as a "call to arms for Muslims".

Siddique had denied three charges under the Terrorism Act 2000 and one under the Terrorism Act 2006, claiming his hoard of jihadist material was collected for "research". He was also found guilty of a breach of the peace for threatening to become a suicide bomber and showing fellow students at Glasgow Metropolitan College video clips showing people being beheaded.

Judge Lord Carloway said the court would take the offences "extremely seriously" and warned Siddique that he was considering an extended term when sentencing takes place on October 23 at the High Court in Edinburgh.

Siddique sat motionless and looked straight ahead as the guilty verdicts were returned. His family wept in the court.

Outside, Siddique's solicitor, Aamer Anwar, said the verdict was a "tragedy for justice and freedom of speech" and that they were considering an appeal. He said: "Today Mohammed Atif Siddique was found guilty of doing what millions of young people do every day: looking for answers on the internet."

Siddique was arrested at Glasgow Airport in April 2006. He had been under surveillance for several months. He was about to board a flight to Lahore in Pakistan. His tickets and laptop computer were seized.

The case did not include charges of belonging to a terrorist organisation or allegations that he was directly involved in a terrorist plot. However, security sources said yesterday he was stopped because of intelligence that he planned to travel via Pakistan to Canada and carry out a terrorist atrocity in Ontario.

The plan was discovered by police monitoring online exchanges with a terrorist suspect from England who cannot be named for legal reasons but is thought to have been a major recruiter of Islamic extremists in the UK.

'Only responsible for the foreseeable results of ones actions'.

Should this young man go to jail?
mortonjag 2007-09-18 08:49:28
QUOTE(Templesponston @ Sep 18 2007, 08:20 AM) [snapback]334947[/snapback]
So where is the money for this coming?

We are only a handful of games into season FFS!

The way things are going, the loss of potential revenue over the coming season (from gates, commercial activities, and sponsorship) would pay for the salaries of half a dozen 'Directors of Football'.

I'm assuming that Mr Rae and his co-directors would remain as at present, but acknowledge the handing over of the day to day running of the club to a responsible employee.
mortonjag 2007-09-18 08:55:05
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Sep 18 2007, 08:35 AM) [snapback]334948[/snapback]
I don't recall anyone disputing that Rae needs to let go a bit and not interfere in team affairs and signings.

Then you have an extremely short or selective recall Ratarse.
mortonjag 2007-09-18 08:58:08
QUOTE(Templesponston @ Sep 18 2007, 08:51 AM) [snapback]334951[/snapback]
Since when did you have access to all the accounts?

Here we go again! rolleyes.gif

I DO have full access to all the accounts-do YOU?

If not, you can get them from Companies House for a wee fee if you're really interested.

I'd be curious to see YOUR financial projections for the coming season. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-18 09:23:49
QUOTE(Templesponston @ Sep 18 2007, 09:15 AM) [snapback]334957[/snapback]
You talk of lost revenue etc when really you have no idea what the club takes in and what goes out.

Douglas Rae has been running a buisness long before your dad spat you into a test tube. He WON'T kill the club and appointing a "Director of Football" will make absolutly no difference on the pitch.

What we need is the team playing like we know they can, like the played against Kilmarnock last season and the spirt they showed against Clyde.

THATS what will make the difference.

Oh dear-is this what I'm going to get in response to a serious question. For a moment I believed YOU knew something that I didn't. Now it turns out you plainly haven't a clue.
mortonjag 2007-09-18 09:31:35
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 18 2007, 09:11 AM) [snapback]334956[/snapback]
so what exactly is art?

It's indefinable Trumpet.

Painting pictures, and writing poems are more specific forms. I find Picasso and Morgan generally uninspiring, but it's clearly down to personal taste.

If you DO like Morgan--


Grey day on Sinclair Street
Pies sit in oven
Blue and white banners
Under dying sun
Rae sits in armchair
JM sits elsewhere
Frowns where once smiles
Game has begun


etc.

POETRY-naw CRAP!
mortonjag 2007-09-18 09:37:35
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 18 2007, 09:32 AM) [snapback]334961[/snapback]
I think I spotted you in your teensy wee Saab with the personalised number plate yesterday about 1.15 at Cappielow. I had just drawn up in my magnificent coupe to buy me an ma boy's tickets. You did'nt look like a doctor!

Like one of the previous callers, the place was dead and I stood talking to the guys in the shop for 10 minutes and no one else showed up.

I think we will still sell our allocation when they go on general sale today.

Ha ha-it was YOU in that shiny Gallic galloper. Nice motor! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-18 09:42:38
QUOTE(Templesponston @ Sep 18 2007, 09:32 AM) [snapback]334962[/snapback]
Nice to see you debating my point and not just making some sort of remark...................

WHICH point?Of course what you said and Tonsilitis confirmed makes some sense, but IS IT GOING TO HAPPEN?

The rest of your post was both inaccurate and potentially offensive.
mortonjag 2007-09-18 09:49:34
QUOTE(Templesponston @ Sep 18 2007, 09:45 AM) [snapback]334967[/snapback]
Appointing a Director of football won't make happen either though!

I'd suggest that a director of football would look dispassionately at the running of the club, prioritise accordingly, and act as swiftly as possible to redress the current situation. That's what those guys are paid for, and at their best, they do a bloody good job.

Now, may I have your argument for the status quo?
mortonjag 2007-09-18 10:31:05
QUOTE(Templesponston @ Sep 18 2007, 09:59 AM) [snapback]334977[/snapback]
That there is nothing jepordising the long term future of the club, which was not the case only some 5 years ago.

I'm not EXACTLY sure what you mean there. Five years ago Mr Rae expected to lose money-we were stuck in the scabby third division-and we even struggled to get out of that, probably because of unwise appointments.

Instead of a straight passage through to the 'First', the Chairman had to keep shelling out for a further three seasons-NEEDLESSLY-in my opinion, if it had been addressed properly.

We have painfully scrabbled our way up the cliff and are now precariously perched on the edge of First Division status.

With its potential, GMFC should now be turning loss into profit. The way things are it's quite possible we're going to end up deeper in deficit. If YOU can't see the difference in 5 years, I certainly can.
mortonjag 2007-09-18 10:36:14
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 18 2007, 10:25 AM) [snapback]334982[/snapback]
MM

PeePee
mortonjag 2007-09-18 10:46:10
QUOTE(Alan C @ Sep 18 2007, 10:36 AM) [snapback]334988[/snapback]
and what about the boo boys who boo the boo boys that boo the boo boys ??? scum of the earth them

Wouldn't they just be the original 'Boo Boys'? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-18 10:58:13
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 18 2007, 10:52 AM) [snapback]334994[/snapback]
CLICK HERE AND READ THIS

Who the f*** do they think they are? In fact who the f*** do they think we are?

Th

They think they are important-they think we don't know they're not.
mortonjag 2007-09-18 11:09:00
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 18 2007, 10:58 AM) [snapback]334998[/snapback]
Ernie I f***ing hate this s***, get it sorted, you're a doctor I'm just a number.

Wish I could Jim-I saw it coming in the NHS shortly after I graduated. My old man took early retirement from teaching because of it. It's a creeping cancer which costs the taxpayer inordinately huge sums annually, but it seems now to be self propagating.

The very opposite of the current situation at Cappielow, when you come to think about it!

Administrators, who answer to administrators, right up the line to the Directors of Education who answer to-



























THE COONCILLORS



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mortonjag 2007-09-18 11:13:18
QUOTE(Lord Haw haw @ Sep 18 2007, 10:52 AM) [snapback]334993[/snapback]
Please forgive me mortonjag,i had no knowledge of you being a patient in Carstairs.Is being a physician part of your role play?I do hope you have not tried to diagnose anyone or prescribe them any of the anti-psychotic drugs.

Aye, well ye ken noo ya c*nt. Might be wise to shy clear of loony Dr Crippen-Shipman.
mortonjag 2007-09-18 11:17:05
WHO'S GOING?




We may have to huddle together to keep warm by the sound of things, and nobody even seems interested. I'm taking it as a chance to forget our woes, and looking for five or six goals to cheer me up.
mortonjag 2007-09-18 11:50:19
Robinson


Harding McAlister Gardyne Weatherson

Russell Shields Finlayson Graham

Keenan Coakley


I picked them out of a wee bag-except the goalie.
mortonjag 2007-09-18 11:55:03
QUOTE(centralTON @ Sep 18 2007, 11:52 AM) [snapback]335016[/snapback]
MJ, do you think the 'Shire will stop at five goals or will they go for six.
P.S. dont know about down the road but it's baltic here.

I was more thinking of three apiece with the Ton winning on penalties after they had seven sent off! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-18 12:02:01
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Sep 18 2007, 11:50 AM) [snapback]335013[/snapback]
I think everyone can see thats exactly what is happening . you on the other hand are grasping on to it to have an other dig at Dougie and Jim

Scott-will you f*ckin' well grow up?

Who are those 'everyone' you speak for with such authority?

To the best of my knowledge only four or five Ton supporters have seen full copies of the lengthy correspondence, which makes the organisation at GMFC look shambolic.

If NewTON really wanted to get a wee dig in, it would be the easiest thing in the world to print the whole sorry saga right here.

And finally, I believe he dealt with the matter patiently, and with considerable self control. He has every right to feel slightly miffed.

mortonjag 2007-09-18 12:23:20 Spoonsy, Gardyne, Linn, Sanny, and Jamie.

5-0 to the Ton.
mortonjag 2007-09-18 13:05:14
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 18 2007, 12:46 PM) [snapback]335035[/snapback]
I agree that Rae's input (other than financial) aint that great.

However you can't have your cake and eat it.

We can't drop the bits we don't like about Rae (not being all that good at running a club) but keep his good points (money).

His heart is in the right place, so he makes a few mistakes but he usually foots the bill in terms of higher wages, transfer fees etc, so don't see how constructive moaning about him is.

Unless you have a spare few million you are willing to pour into Morton that is.

Of course we can, if he can get his head round the idea that it might be better for all concerned.
mortonjag 2007-09-18 13:15:40
QUOTE(otter @ Sep 18 2007, 12:51 PM) [snapback]335036[/snapback]
Thats where you are all wrong. NO football tops of any kind are aloud to be wore in Schools. Says so in the handbooks. [b]It's also there to stop the "rich kids" who can afford the "best of gear" slagging the "poor kids" who can only afford Matalan stuff.[/b]

Phil.

The future's bright....

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif



I take it they also get inspected every morning in case some poor wee c*nt spots a 'Next' label on his mates underpants when they're changing for swimming lessons.

Those people are vermin-despicable creeps who live in a self generated microcosm. Following on Politicians whom I rate as aspirant pond life, they are my pet hate. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-18 13:20:04
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 18 2007, 01:14 PM) [snapback]335053[/snapback]
mortonjag has no mates. Shock horror!

Is anyone surprised by this considering he spends a good 10 hours a day on the messagebaord?

Not quite true young man, though I've learned over the years to be selective about my company. The Monkey and I shall be perfectly content, I assure you.
mortonjag 2007-09-18 13:31:44
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 18 2007, 01:19 PM) [snapback]335057[/snapback]
Obviously you've never worked with many self employed people.

Traditionally work-a-holic types who delegate as few decisions as possible. I'm sure in his 70's there is absolutely ZERO chance of Dougie changing his ways.

Get used to it. Dougie AND his money will be there till he wants.

I'm the one who's normally accused of being patronising!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

What f*ckin' age are you Sonny boy?

I've been self employed all my life, and known scores of self employed folk over the years. I've also studied Medicine AND psychology, and for over two years have been saying of DDFR exactly what you've just presented like some Angel Gabriel.

I believe it's extremely unlikely that Mr Rae can be persuaded to relinquish his seat of authority, but the least we can do is let him know how and what we feel. That is the purpose of the poll.

I imagine the more intelligent posters have already grasped that.
mortonjag 2007-09-18 13:37:25
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 18 2007, 01:30 PM) [snapback]335059[/snapback]
I voted NO, because I don't think another body is necessarily the answer, but DDFR could be well advised to take a step back and let his employees do their jobs.

We already have a chief exec, a commercial manager, a manager and a coach.

I would have thought that there should be sufficient management in place to run a 1st division club. Adding another would make it top-heavy - always assuming that the right people are filling this posts (!)

If anything, I would like to see an appointment looking at youth coaching/ scouting, where Morton seem to be fairly deficient these days.

I doubt if a new 'face' could possibly be more 'top heavy' than the person whom he'd be most likely to make redundant!
mortonjag 2007-09-18 14:30:36
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 18 2007, 02:21 PM) [snapback]335097[/snapback]
Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere but Jim McInally has announced tonight's starting XI early.

Tonight's Starting XI

Thanks JonaTon.

It's funny how the manager's assessment of players seems to change from week to week-of Alex Walker, who was quite clearly out of favour last season, even when others' form dropped he claims-


Definitely back in a return to a back four is left-back Alex Walker. He has recovered from an ankle knock and the manager said: “We’ve missed him. He was probably our most consistent player before he picked up the injury.

“He gives us a bit of composure. It’s good to have him back.


I could have sworn that a bit of composure was one of the things we were crying out for last season!
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mortonjag 2007-09-18 14:39:19
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Sep 18 2007, 01:36 PM) [snapback]335067[/snapback]
You can still get them in a number of locally ran convenience stores throughout Inverclyde.

.....the proprietors don't care that they are years over the sell by date
mortonjag 2007-09-18 14:46:05 A 'Jaffa cake' is composed of bitter chocolate, orange jelly, and sponge

Bitter

Orange

Jellies

Sponge

Sounds like a Hun looking for the next fix.

It is a confection-ask Mr Rae-he knows about those things.
mortonjag 2007-09-18 15:01:19
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 18 2007, 02:57 PM) [snapback]335131[/snapback]
Don't think he's cup tied in the Callenge Cup. Thought that was just the League Cup. No doubt I will be corrected if wrong though.


.................................Robinson .......................


Weatherson..... Greacen ........... Harding ........ Walker


Stevenson ...... Keenan .......... McAlister ........ Graham


................................................. Gardyne ..............


.....................Templeman ..................................


Looks like he's been dropped Weegie wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-18 16:17:19
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 18 2007, 03:20 PM) [snapback]335155[/snapback]
So your point is, really, that you'd like someone different in the existing positions, rather than creaste a new role?

Never have guessed you felt that way! rolleyes.gif

EH!

When I make points I make them Trumpet. Stop making daft assumptions and READ.

We're trying to save money-not spend more!
mortonjag 2007-09-18 16:22:23
QUOTE(NorgieTon @ Sep 18 2007, 04:10 PM) [snapback]335203[/snapback]
You talk the TALK Mortonjag.

You buy Douggies shares, then You can run the Club

PUT UP OR SHUT UP

you FCukwit

NorgieTon

Listen Sir, I may 'talk the talk' as you put it, but it already appears that a significant majority of those who've posted are with me on what was meant to be a serious debate-NOT a slagging off of Mr Rae.

Normally I don't bother about offensive comments like yours, but please refrain from calling someone with experience of running his own businesses a FCukwit.


YOU CVNT huh.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-19 05:36:24
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 18 2007, 07:25 PM) [snapback]335271[/snapback]
I believe my age is on my profile, what difference does it make? Do you think calling a 22 year old 'Sonny boy' makes my reasoned posts less effective? Perhaps each one of your 11,000 odd posts has less impact with each one that is added.

Self employed all your life? So family business, never done a days work for someone else? Spend all your day surfing the net? Nae mates? Socially inadequate? Drive a nice car to get attention? Tell people you drive a nice car to get attention? Think your volume of posting gives you kudos with this internet persona you have built for yourself?

Sound familiar?

I think your poll is stupid, Rae is NOT going to step aside on the basis of the ramblings of some anorak who has thousands of negative comments racked up on a messageboard he seems to spend more time than is possible on.

Any sensible person would know that.

Likewise, he's not going to sack Jim on the basis of the ramblings of some anorak who has thousands of negative comments racked up on a messageboard he seems to spend more time than is possible on.

The answer to the highlighted question is in your reply Son!

How many post match Shandies had you decked before you posted? I hope you sooked a couple of strong mints before your Mummy tucked you in last night. wacko.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-19 05:39:16
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 18 2007, 07:44 PM) [snapback]335285[/snapback]
corrected.
His real reason for the poll is to undermine Rae. Not to get a feeling for the situation - these polls are not in the least bit scientific and don't reflect anything much at all.

CLOT!
mortonjag 2007-09-19 05:42:27
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 18 2007, 08:03 PM) [snapback]335308[/snapback]
To be even close to scientific it would need to count the number of people who didn't vote, given the number of usernames this could be about 99% of those able to. Making any results next to meaningless.

Also, one person can have as many usernames as they want so could easilly influence the vote that way. So not everyone has one vote.

Did you bother to read the initial post Piehole?

I asked for comment to add body to the opinion. So far as I can see, there has not yet been one unqualified intelligent post from a 'No'!
mortonjag 2007-09-19 05:49:17
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 18 2007, 08:32 PM) [snapback]335358[/snapback]
on a messageboard, as a way to guage opinion. Yes they are worthless.

However, anyone who used a poll on here to guage opinion is pretty naive. This one was to undermine Rae.

I did one about our league position to show that we are not in too bad a position.

I'd suggest that Mr Rae is doing a very good job of undermining himself. More than one poster has said it will be a sad day if the fans end up baying for his departure.

I agree with that. The good he did is being eroded by his own personality, and that is what I have highlighted in a perfectly legitimate and courteous way.

That could be construed as trying to HELP him-don't you agree?
mortonjag 2007-09-19 05:54:25
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Sep 18 2007, 08:32 PM) [snapback]335361[/snapback]
I agree that Rae's input (other than financial) aint that great.

However you can't have your cake and eat it.

We can't drop the bits we don't like about Rae (not being all that good at running a club) but keep his good points (money).

His heart is in the right place, so he makes a few mistakes but he usually foots the bill in terms of higher wages, transfer fees etc, so don't see how constructive moaning about him is.

Unless you have a spare few million you are willing to pour into Morton that is.
Correct, its easy to spend money when it's not your own. You can moan as much as you like but unless you have the money to back up your words your farting in the wind. He may not be everyone's cup of tea but I've still to hear anyone come up with an alternative. Until they have a credible person to take on Morton we will just have to put up with DDFR. He's entitled to spend his money the way he sees fit, you may not agree with him but it's not your money he's spending it's his.
If you don't like it vote with your feet.

Well away back and READ what I posted.

I suggested that he should appoint somebody to RUN the club-somebody who'd still be his employee but paid to deliver what DR can't. Is that not what everybody should want?
mortonjag 2007-09-19 05:58:19
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Sep 18 2007, 08:47 PM) [snapback]335386[/snapback]
Well said piehutt, the polls on here are as accurate as a skud missile. Anyone who knows anything about scientific polls will know that the polls on here are highly inaccurate and should be treated as such. Anybody who thinks otherwise is deluding themselves.

Indeed laugh.gif

Anyone who knows anything about polls (scientific or otherwise), knows that they reflect the general opinion of those who vote.

Quite simple really.
mortonjag 2007-09-19 06:00:09
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 18 2007, 09:22 PM) [snapback]335447[/snapback]
Sorry, mabberjabber. Just trying to understand the mechanics of your infallibly correct point of view. Feel free to correct me if I misunderstand; you want to employ another person at no cost, or make one of the existing staff redundant.

Or is there another way to save money by taking on another salary?

Your point remains as clear as mud to me, I'm afraid. Perhaps you could spell it out for us lesser mortals?

Let's just say it was giraffe's baws to you!
mortonjag 2007-09-19 06:11:54
QUOTE(binnie @ Sep 18 2007, 06:37 PM) [snapback]335247[/snapback]
a wouldnt bet on that was speaking to chris miller. my friend sayed get mcinally out and criss turned round and sayed "yepp thats the shout". that jst show the players have no faith he sayed "his tactics are all wrong" but have to stay optomistic ton to win 3-1 tonight

That's possibly the first time I've heard someone suggest there's unrest in the dressing room.
mortonjag 2007-09-19 06:16:00
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Sep 19 2007, 12:47 AM) [snapback]335588[/snapback]
Jim sat in the stand from start to finish, sitting neatly between Dougie and Crawford.

I dedicate that win to one Martin Clark.

Well done Martin rolleyes.gif

Carbon copy of the Annan situation. Funnily enough we were going through a bad patch then, and speculation was flying at the game about where JM had disappeared to. On the way home, we learned we had Killie in the next round.
mortonjag 2007-09-19 06:52:29 [quote name='Jaffa' date='Sep 18 2007, 09:02 PM' post='335420']
I may not post on here very often but I do read this board daily. I would just like to say this board has become the most negative, unsupportive pile of crap I have ever seen. You lot ahave driven off all of the real fans who used to populate this board. It was fun , up beat and supportive. As a morton fan of 35+ years I have seen the ups and downs of Greenock Morton Football Club and believe me we are at present in the presence of an up.Yes we have a young inexperienced manager but he has progressed in the previous 2 years he has been in charge (1st year 2nd in the 2nd division, 2nd year Champions) . We are now in the 1st division after many a year of attempting to get here,
as far as I am concerned if we finish 8th this season I would see that as progress. Anyone who thinks that Morton are going to do a Gretna and get promoted again are quite frankly lliving in dream land.
We have a young team who have got us to where we are now, they need to be given a chance in what is the most competative league in Scotland possibly Britain. Even Dunfermline are struggling in the 1st division. It takes at least a quarter of a season to find your feet in this league. Teams like Dundee, Q ot S, Hamilton and St Johnstone have been fighting in this league for many seasons. Morton fans need to wake up and smell the burnt toast, start supporting their team, manager and Chairman.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


I've pasted from the infamous 'Taxi for McInally' poll.

This is how it stood a week before our first division campaign commenced Jaffa.


Taxi for McInally???
Whats your opinion
Time to call the taxi [ 30 ] ** [15.31%]
undecided [ 25 ] ** [12.76%]
totally confident in his ability [ 141 ] ** [71.94%]


You talk about a 'negative unsupportive pile of crap', yet 72% of those you are berating still had total confidence in the Manager at that point.

I feel very strongly about this issue. You are perfectly entitled to your opinion but I believe you are sincerely misguided.

I too have supported the Ton all my life, and been a regular at home and away matches for nigh on 50 years. I know what you're talking about, and fully understand the point you're making, but unthinking 'all out' support of everything 'Morton' is a bit silly IMO.

At the end of the day, performances on the park are what decide our fate. I give total, unqualified support of our lads in every game, never 'boo', and refrain from criticising individual players on this forum.

In that sense I abhor and resent your comment about 'the real fans' having been driven away. Would you care to define a 'Real fan'?

Somebody with a big glaicet grin, a pair of rose tinted specs, and a name that's reminiscent of a popular cake biscuit springs to mind!

I was at Falkirk last night-we struggled at first, but the boys pulled off a good victory-it was great to see Bobby Linn getting the confidence boost he's needed, and well done to Big Sanny. Young Graham should also have got his name on that goal. I drove home feeling contented.

Now it's back to League business and St Johnstone on Saturday. If we play well and win, I'm sure you'll find the pseudo fans on this 'rag' giving full credit all round, just as they've ALWAYS done WHEN IT'S BEEN MERITED.

What you (I assume deliberately) fail to address is the reason for the current disspiritment.

The REAL fans want the best for Greenock Morton. If that means changes have to be made-bring them on.
mortonjag 2007-09-19 07:04:31
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 19 2007, 06:53 AM) [snapback]335621[/snapback]
Well what was the point of putting a poll in? You can get comment just by posting the topic.

The poll is worthless. Looking at the heading 'Is it time for Mr Rae to Take a Side Step?' NO
We have no one else with his money willing to take over. As is clear, you can't have Rae's money and not Rae.

The sub heading, something about a director of football. Probably be a good idea in an ideal world but anyone can see that is not the way Rae operates and even if he did add a wage to the staff, he is still the type of guy who'd stick his oar in and want a say in all the decisions.

I was asking people what they THINK Mr Rae should do-NOT what they expect him to do, Piehole.

I thought that was pretty obvious, and apologise for being unable to cater for the less than average IQ.
mortonjag 2007-09-19 07:13:31
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 19 2007, 06:56 AM) [snapback]335622[/snapback]
You really don't have a clue. Your sad attempts to undermine other posters is fairly pathetic.

The only way to do that is with decent reasoned argument, however it seems this is well beyond your narrow minded thought process.

I don't indiscriminately 'attempt to undermine other posters'.

I've said this before Piehole-if you want to have a go at me, be my guest and take what comes back like a man and not a whinging wean.

Your comment about our relative abilities to present 'a decent reasoned argument' will no doubt raise a few eyebrows! laugh.gif

Christ, at 22 I was pretty full of myself too I seem to remember, but I definitely didn't think I knew more than retired professionals almost three times my age.

Time is on your side Son, and hopefully you'll grow up soon. wink.gif

mortonjag 2007-09-19 07:26:14
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 18 2007, 09:57 PM) [snapback]335518[/snapback]
It's certainly not disputed now.

A visionary. Ahead of your time MJ.

Edited 'cause my typing isn't getting any better.

My suspicions were confirmed when I met and briefly chatted with Mr Rae in Hospitality over two seasons ago.

Since then I've taken an active interest in goings on behind the scenes. I don't live in Inverclyde like so many good folk who think plenty but are a bit coy about coming into the open.
What I do hear on the grapevine, added to the obvious and public, demonstrates beyond a shadow of doubt that DDFR operates within a cocoon, oblivious to any opinions except his own. That personality type inevitably 'finds his own level' and fails to progress further-just what we're observing at Cappielow.
mortonjag 2007-09-19 07:35:25
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 18 2007, 06:54 PM) [snapback]335251[/snapback]
To be honest the guy is really struggling with injuries. He was basically forced to play that team on Sat as they were pretty much the only defenders / midfielders we had. Ok, so he had the choice to play Temps or not, but Temps aint been getting goals so got to try something.

5 players out, all of whom would have been in his plans if fit is just so difficult to cope with.

I think until we see at least a few of these guys back, it is hard to be over critical. And I think we will def see an improvement when Jim has more options.

I don't think Jim is perfect by any means, his constant playing of Finlayson drives me mental as generally we have better options than him. I also think he has been really harsh on Dave Mcgurn. He subs Stevenson too often imo. Millar should play on the right with Stevenson in the centre etc. But there's no way any manager we got in would agree with all that, so would I then call for that manager to be replaced?

However... just cause I don't agree on certain aspects doesn't mean I don't see the big picture that Jim has improved each season, has generally picked up good players and is doing a good job.

Also - we are sitting 6th in the table, level on points with St Johnstone & Thistle as well as a point ahead of Dunfermline. THAT just shows how tough this league is. And we'd all have taken that after 6 games, if offered.

When I was at school Piehole (before your parents were born I'd imagine) they dished out four prizes at the end of each session-First, second, third, and what was called the 'Progress Prize'.

The 'Progress Prize' was awarded to the duffer who'd 'tried hardest' and impressed the teacher with his efforts.

Just thought you might be interested in that little piece of local history from Kilmacolm primary school.
mortonjag 2007-09-19 07:45:09 Many happy returns Bryan-and also to El Gofer.

You both share a birthday with George Cadbury (of Milk Tray) and Twiggy (of none).
mortonjag 2007-09-19 07:48:09
QUOTE(Lord Haw haw @ Sep 18 2007, 10:54 PM) [snapback]335546[/snapback]
GB

FUYC
mortonjag 2007-09-19 08:07:03
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Sep 18 2007, 11:41 PM) [snapback]335562[/snapback]
Here we go....

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BH-totally serious question-I had a couple of wee bikes when I was a youngster-Honda 90cc, and Suzuki 125 two stroke (which had front disc brakes!). Am I too old to become a biker?
mortonjag 2007-09-19 08:12:01 How can you have a 'United Kingdom' without a monarchy-it may take more than twenty years, but even by then King Charles will be 78, and will have done no end of good convincing the people to get shot of Royalty once and for all.
mortonjag 2007-09-19 08:15:20 Williams in fact scored both-good wee striker on his game.
mortonjag 2007-09-19 08:16:53
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Sep 19 2007, 06:23 AM) [snapback]335615[/snapback]
Whit Furr ?

The mind boggles.

I'd love to have been a fly on Arth the wall!
mortonjag 2007-09-19 09:07:48
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 19 2007, 08:52 AM) [snapback]335639[/snapback]
I'm sure Haw Haw isn't asking a serious question - he is merely trying to be provocative. However the answer is that if there is still a UK in 20 years' time, it is unlikely to contain Scotland. And I suspect even Wales may have left by then the way their opinions are moving at the moment.

Haw Haw's rubbish about us being poor, about being subsidised, etc etc, is just the same old same old. We've heard this p1sh before from unionist propagandists, and even the unionists now admit it's not true. As a simple cursory glance at any other European nation could tell you - and that's before we take into account ALL our natural resources.

Haw Haw might not be capable of looking after himself, but the majority of Scots are perfectly able.

Does Hee Haw claim to be a Scot?
mortonjag 2007-09-19 09:11:57 I wouldn't dream of attending one Thrax, though, in a professional sense, I used to occasionally visit a well known 'Spiritualist' chap, who lived with his family in a mansion on Gt. Western Rd.

Let's put it this way, he was LAUGHING all the way to the bank!
mortonjag 2007-09-19 09:38:14 In recent years Scott Bannerman springs to mind.

Thinking back I can remember plenty of hard players but none I'd have described as 'dirty' though I'm sure I've just forgotten
mortonjag 2007-09-19 10:37:42
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 19 2007, 10:16 AM) [snapback]335665[/snapback]
Sadly, even with your clarification, I still don't understand.

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But then, I suspect, neither do you. tongue.gif

The clue was in the actual wording of the statement-it went over your head.

Clue-'Top heavy'

Extra clue- folk who might get the bullet! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-19 10:46:09
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 19 2007, 10:23 AM) [snapback]335668[/snapback]
4 points:

1. You seem to have consensus that DDFR should delegate more authority to his employees.
2. Most posters have noted that this is very unlikely to happen. You have also agreed wth this.
3. The poll question was about the appointment of more staff, not about delegation.
4. Your assessment of an "unqualified intelligent post" seems to begin and end with yours.

I sense we are talking at cross purposes. The poll question asked quite simply if he should appoint a 'Director of Football'.

It's pretty clear that DDFR is currently 'running the club'.
Appointing someone to 'run the club' for him is delegation in my book.

Still not sure where you're coming from-another of my 'senior' moments peut etre?
mortonjag 2007-09-19 10:54:58
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Sep 19 2007, 10:04 AM) [snapback]335658[/snapback]
Hmm, I reckon you're at the wind up doc but just in case my answer is no, you're never too old. One of my instructors when I was learning was 72 and as far as I know he's still biking.

It was a serious question-I just feel there are so many maniacs on the roads those days that I'm safer on four wheels (most of the time!) but I loved those wee bikes.
mortonjag 2007-09-19 11:14:06
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 19 2007, 10:30 AM) [snapback]335672[/snapback]
laugh.gif

pots & kettles methinks!

I think that DDFR, like many successful businessmen, trusts his own judgement far more than anyone elses. It's worked well for him generally.

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The relative success of Golden Casket is always trotted out as some kind of defence of Mr Rae's record at Cappielow. The general perception is that he's 'A successful businessman'.

If he set out as a young man to have achieved at the age of 76 what he has-good luck to him. I certainly would have regarded that as an abysmal failure, but I do set high standards.

In any case, trusting one's own judgement in areas of previous experience is usually (though by no means always) prudent.

Trusting ones own judgement in the running of a Football club-having had no previous experience is crass stupidity IMO.

One final point-why do you use the term 'pots and kettles'? tongue.gif

The forum is about OPINIONS remember, and sure, when I post mine I'm pretty forceful at times. That by no means implies I'm correct. I'd get a lot more pleasure if posters would joust with me on an intelligent level, instead of the usual trash from weans who have a gripe with Mortonjag.

Your goodself excluded! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-19 11:19:13
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 19 2007, 10:43 AM) [snapback]335677[/snapback]
Thats two matches running now we have not had a sub goallie on the bench, presumably because McGurn is injured. Why can't we get an emergency loan signing even for a month or whatever it takes to get McGurn fit.

We are going to look pretty stupid if Robinson gets injured during a match and an outfield player has to go in goal!!

The nightmare scenario would be a sending off or injury in the first five minutes against St Johnstone.

It's unlikely, as was the sinking of the Titanic. Why this has been allowed to happen defeats logic.
mortonjag 2007-09-19 11:23:26 I think the 'hardest' man-given his physique-to play for us was Bobby Collins. I'm certain he was no taller than Jay Shields, but he NEVER shirked a tackle, and had International honours by the score. Mind you, in those days, 'taking the ball and man' was fair play.
mortonjag 2007-09-19 11:32:23
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Sep 19 2007, 11:23 AM) [snapback]335689[/snapback]
A very good point - but, as you well know, you have lowered yourself to spouting child like trash and abuse on various occasion, resulting in posters who have valid comments to make no longer posting.

unsure.gif

I'm not conscious of EVER having 'spouted childlike trash and abuse' except in response to similar Mack.

I'll be delighted to see any evidence of instances where I have.

The truth of the matter is that, as often as not, posters take the huff when they THINK they see the validity of their comments questioned. Why they do is a mystery to me-they are just as valid as mine.

I am then frequently subjected to the type of behaviour you describe, and YES, I'll return like with like.

If they can't match me in a battle by their own rules-so be it.
mortonjag 2007-09-19 12:49:51
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Sep 19 2007, 11:52 AM) [snapback]335702[/snapback]
I dont want to go over all the same groung again, but I sure you remember an occasion or two where I asked a perfectly civil question (directed at you) and was greeted by childish abuse in return. Since then I think this may be the first time I have actually posted in response to one of your posts.

I am also surprised that you would lower yourself to responding like for like with abuse - I would have thought that it would be more adult to rise above it, but then again not everyone is capable of that I suppose.

Then why bring it up?

As I said Mack-I don't 'have a go' unless I'm goaded. It seems that I've frightened you off by responding to one of your 'perfectly civil questions' with childish abuse. I'd like to see full evidence of the posts concerned before commenting further.

Your last paragraph is a bit daft, if I may say so without intending in the slightest to be offensive, and the last sentence confusing-I'd suggest potentially provocative though I doubt you'd admit that.

If you think this chatroom is the place for mature, civilised, and 'adult' debate, you are simply deluded. It's a pleasant diversion for someone who has spent a working lifetime maintaining the highest professional standards of clinical practice, courtesy, and accountability. I simply try to match other posters-you accuse me of 'lowering myself', yet when I do post seriously I'm accused of a variety of sins-'Trying to baffle with big words' is a common example.

Let me summarise Mack. If I've ever treated your posts with 'childish abuse', as you describe it, that was because I thought they merited such.

As I've stated, if you can produce evidence to prove you've been ill-treated, I'll be happy to proffer an unreserved apology.



mortonjag 2007-09-19 12:53:37
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 19 2007, 12:42 PM) [snapback]335723[/snapback]
Duly noted wink.gif

Could we agree that, relative to most of the population, he has been a successful businessman? I think we also agree that DDFR should relinquish further control to his employees. I think the onus then, should be on making sure that the current roles are filled by the right people, rather than creating a further salaried role (no - not salad roll).

smile.gif Are we still at cross purposes? If he appoints a 'Director of Football', hiring and firing will inevitably follow.
mortonjag 2007-09-19 13:08:34
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 19 2007, 12:51 PM) [snapback]335726[/snapback]
You ability to present a decent reasoned argument is pretty limited. You resort to discounting my post due to my age, not particularly reasoned at all.

Now you resort to bringing up something in your life to try and show people you are superior to others. As someone who has claimed to study psycholology you will be aware that this suggests low self asteem. You've done similar things such as name check the car you drive, hoping that people will assume you are successful because you drive a nice car.

Analogy in common use is that guys with wee dicks, make a point of having a fancy car to compensate for this.

It seems you are a sad wee man, who has nothing better to do than sit on an internet messageboard for hours each day, picking fights with people and trying to come up with the most controversial subjects.

The sad thing about what you've just posted Son, is that you actually believe it.

As I said earlier, there is still time for you to 'grow up'. The palpable arrogance which emanates from your postings makes it highly unlikely that you are a popular young fellow.

Have you never asked yourself why people shun your company?



mortonjag 2007-09-19 13:13:51
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 19 2007, 12:53 PM) [snapback]335728[/snapback]
Nice wee story, don't see what relevance it has to a successful football manager who won the league last season right enough.

Once again, failing to produce a reasoned argument. Perhaps your report card would read, in this instance, must try harder.

That comment perhaps illustrates the problem you have with folks of a superior intelligence Piehole. I'm sure most posters saw EXACTLY where I was coming from.

Anyway at 12.53 of a sunny afternoon, shouldn't you be out sharing a lunchtime break with your many colleagues, instead of indulging your paranoia at your keyboard. If you are unemployed (like me) I do apologise.
mortonjag 2007-09-19 13:35:30
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Sep 19 2007, 01:22 PM) [snapback]335746[/snapback]
Funny, when I was in school we had a very similar set up - and on many occasions the "Progress/Most Improved Prize" winner regularly went on to become the First or Second prize winner in subsequent years.

Not sure why you would refer to an individual who had progressed and tried hard as a "Duffer" ?

I shall word this extremely delicately Mack!

I'm talking about the early fifties, in a very 'conservative' wee primary school. In those days of political incorrectness, it was acceptable to call duffers, 'duffers'.
mortonjag 2007-09-19 13:36:33
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Sep 19 2007, 01:27 PM) [snapback]335748[/snapback]
Not getting involved in the JM discussion.

With regards "Progress Prize" I have always had a great admiration for people who try their best. In my opinion it is a great attribute to have. 'mon the triers.

I concur HT.
mortonjag 2007-09-19 13:43:19
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Sep 19 2007, 12:31 PM) [snapback]335717[/snapback]
Who scored two headed goals last night??!! One from a Stevenson cross?!

Not a common occurrence, but pleasant to see! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-19 13:47:15
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Sep 19 2007, 12:40 PM) [snapback]335721[/snapback]
Tonsilitis's post that is quoted above is a pretty good summary of the match.

We never looked like conceding a goal and although Shire enjoyed the better possession for the 1st 15-20 minutes, after that we peppered shots and but for the wind might have worked their keeper a little better in the 1st half.

It was good to see both Sanny and Bobby getting goals, there's nothing better than your strikers scoring goals. I thought Sanny was excellent last night, winning everything in the air and holding the ball up well, bringing others into play effortlessly. He MUST start on Saturday. I don't mind if it is Linn or Russell (or even Gardyne) that starts alongside him, but he is so focal to our forward line: he can turn a clearance into a long ball because of the way he can hold the ball up or flick it on.

A job well done to be honest. A home tie in the semis would be nice.

It's much harder up two grades, but I entirely agree. Couldn't believe he was on the bench on Saturday.
mortonjag 2007-09-19 15:02:12
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 19 2007, 01:42 PM) [snapback]335755[/snapback]
Funny, because my primary school also had a setup like this and I assure you the winner of the "Diligence" prize did not progress to the top. cool.gif

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mortonjag 2007-09-19 15:12:14
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 19 2007, 02:06 PM) [snapback]335768[/snapback]
Maybe. Maybe not.

I don't think it would be inevitable.

My point, though, was why he would need a director of football to hire & fire anyone? We already have people in existing positions which mean nothing as long as DDFR won't allow them to do their jobs fully.

Good managers (in the wider sense of the word) know that the hard bit is getting the right people in place. Once that's been done, let them get on with their jobs.

So, if he doesn't trust the existing staff to do their jobs, by all means replace them. I don't see that creating another role would be helpful.

In my opinion, there should be enough resources at the club within the existing structure to manage a club of this size perfectly well. The only question, then, would be as to the suitability of the people currently in possession of thse roles.

Dpes his fear of allowing the staff to fulfil their roles suggest a lack of confidence in them?

We clearly have been at cross purposes, as I don't disagree fundamentally with any of that. What might happen though, would be that he would immediately see one or two as 'surplus to needs'. He'd be unwise to totally unsettle folk from the outset, and as you say he would assess true potential before making decisions. I'm talking here of staff, BTW, not players, whose deployment clearly must be up to the Manager, current , or new.

I don't think Mr Rae 'fears' allowing staff to fulfil their roles-rather I'd imagine he sees himself as 'assisting them', and therein lies one of the biggest problems with his personality type.

He's not a 'bad' man in the sense that he believes sincerely he's doing the best for Morton. The problem is that he can't see that somebody else could do the job much more efficiently, and let him sit back and enjoy the rest of his time with the club.
mortonjag 2007-09-19 15:18:53
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Sep 19 2007, 02:46 PM) [snapback]335784[/snapback]
I found this interesting photograph on a Leeds United history site ; I had never seen it before.

Does anyone recall being at the match ?

The Leeds United and Morton players applaud Bobby Collins onto the pitch in the 1971-72 pre-season Friendly at Greenock Morton,
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDMemories indeed-if you look at his build and remember he was Jay Shields' height you'll see what I mean about 'taking no prisoners'!
mortonjag 2007-09-19 15:22:56
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 19 2007, 03:15 PM) [snapback]335797[/snapback]
Can I just add that the 'excessive use' of 'inverted commas' may be a sign of that 'personality type'?

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Oh, I imagine that may be correct, though I've not had a look at his Programme notes recently wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-19 15:30:46
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Sep 19 2007, 03:21 PM) [snapback]335801[/snapback]
Hello MJ , ( Michael Jackson ? ) I just posted another photo at the same time as your input , can you name all the people in it please ?

Bobby Collins made his Morton debut in August 1969 in a 1-0 League Cup win over St Mirren, saying afterwards, "That was really hectic out there. Is every match as helter skelter? I couldn't get a breather. Down south they play it across the park until an opening shows and then it's all go for goal. Out there it was the through ball all the time with everyone chasing it like mad. I'm a bit behind the others in training and games but I'll catch up fast. I'll have to if that pace is the general yardstick."

He soon came to terms with the style of play and featured in 28 of the 34 games as Morton finished in mid table. Collins had the chance to visit all his old haunts and thoroughly enjoyed his return, particularly one memorable day against Rangers at Ibrox.

It was the last game of the season, April 18 1970, and Rangers had long since seen Celtic claim yet another championship, their fifth in succession. Morton enjoyed one of the greatest days in their history, emerging 2-0 victors.

As Collins recalled: "I grabbed a goal, which was really pleasing. I remember playing a ball wide and running through for the return. After sidestepping the goalkeeper, I stopped the ball on the line and waited for the defender to come back. As he approached, I waited until the last moment before crashing it into the roof of the net. The look on home supporters' faces was priceless!" smile.gif



Brilliant WDE. I can spot about six or seven straight away, including the legendary Hal Stewart. No doubt the rest will come back if I keep going back to that picture. I'm sure somebody a bit older like Briggston might be able to rattle them all off. God, they look SO young!!!
mortonjag 2007-09-19 15:34:54
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Sep 19 2007, 02:15 PM) [snapback]335773[/snapback]
CAHAGWTCA

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mortonjag 2007-09-19 15:36:47
QUOTE(Hectors House @ Sep 19 2007, 01:52 PM) [snapback]335760[/snapback]
Totally agree with tigerjock. The guy running for the train was here illegaly, had he not been he would not have been there. Creating martyrs, i would rather create one at the end of a rope than have one create themselves by killing and maiming hundreds or thousands of innocent people, as for the government issue thats true but only because they`re pandering to every minority going hopeing for the votes. Which grips my sh*t when the guys lawyer has the cheek to talk about his lack of freedom of speech, seems to me everyone is allowed freedom of speech unless you are a white christian hetrosexual. I`ll now sit back and wait for the P.C. brigade to attack me for having the cheek to express my freedom of speech.

Take it your a heathen!
mortonjag 2007-09-20 05:07:44
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 19 2007, 07:32 PM) [snapback]335958[/snapback]
Arrogancee? Confidence, because I back up my points.

Shun my company? No, don't worry about me - you have no idea at all. I knowI would never have to go to a Morton game on my own. What about you?

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I've been perfectly happy in my own company for many a long year, young Sir. The truth is that I often find people an obstruction to contentment. The Monkey goes with me to every game. When he speaks, he is extremely courteous to his Father. We have lovely times together.
mortonjag 2007-09-20 05:21:50
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 20 2007, 01:19 AM) [snapback]336153[/snapback]
[b]Isin't the money Dougie is spending not a loan from Golden Casket ? So it ain't really his money if the club have to pay that money back .[/b]
Surely we have to get the club as much self financing as possible . We have spent money on transfers while others have not and they are in a better position .
Dougies track record in picking Managers ain't that great , so how can anyone say he has got this appointment correct .
Infact McInally has been given more time and money than any previous coaches .
I wonder what sort of home support will turn up on Saturday ? At the QOS game we were 500 down on the previous game , ok perhaps it was due to the holiday but we should guage how this slump is affecting our gate receipts.
If Dougie appionted a Director of Football who has had previous experience he/she may bring in different ideas of increasing revenue .

I'm not sue that an accountant would see it like that Chris. The sad truth is that 'The Club' as you describe it is, in financial terms at least, Douglas Rae.

Having said that, the same accountant might currently be advising Mr Rae that his 'asset' is of little value without a vibrant fan base, though of course the Stadium could be sold for a handsome profit, given that the correct things were in place.

Is Mr Rae unwittingly allowing himself to follow the path of a Mr Scott?
mortonjag 2007-09-20 05:28:39 If history's anything to go on, we always seem to pick ourselves up after a bad run. I don't believe it's anything to do with team selection or tactics. I've said for two and more seasons that when the boys are 'up for it' we perform well at this level. It will still be tight, and I can't see the Real Saints failing to score. For that reason I'm going for a 3 -2 victory, with goals to Gardyne, Leafy, and Spoonsy.
mortonjag 2007-09-20 05:32:21
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 19 2007, 09:58 PM) [snapback]336074[/snapback]
I think you have to qualify that. He has been great at flick ons and knock downs with his head from throws and long balls. His heading for goal though has been terrible and I hope last night has reminded him how to do it.

Correct-he's not very good at 'connecting' in terms of getting a header on target-just hasn't the right physique-his skill is in close control.
mortonjag 2007-09-20 05:41:04
QUOTE(Lovedaddy @ Sep 19 2007, 04:47 PM) [snapback]335855[/snapback]
The problem is there has been no progress under mcinally. We won the league last year because of poor opposition not our great play. He has takin a skillful young team and made them into a punt and hope like most teams is this league.

He has brought in good players such as Stevenson, Alex Walker, bobby linn and never played them where they play best. Stevenson is great when played behind the strikers. Alex walker is a far better midfielder than Scott ' Canny pass five yards' Mclaughlin yet is now a left back.

The worst is what he has done to Weatherson and Mcallister. Weatherson is a prolific goal scorer and is right back. Mcallister has pace to burn yet he has started playing him in the centre!!!! This infuriates me.

The guy is not good enough to take this team forward and never has been.

Lovedaddy, you seem to see it as I do.

Funnily enough nobody has disagreed with a word you've said after fully twelve hours.

Where are the 70% who had 'full confidence in the manager's ability' a few short months ago? They certainly weren't lost for words then.

My psychiatrist was a bit worried about the relapse I suffered around that time-put it down to coping poorly with unwarranted aggression.
mortonjag 2007-09-20 06:01:46
QUOTE(axeman @ Sep 19 2007, 07:54 PM) [snapback]335974[/snapback]
George Anderson.

He would go through a brick wall to get the ball or more likely put somebody else through a brick wall.

A legend.

Indeed, but never a 'dirty' plater.
mortonjag 2007-09-20 06:05:43
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Sep 19 2007, 07:21 PM) [snapback]335949[/snapback]
or better still superspy, why don't you f*** right off until you can think of something positive to say. you're turning into a bigger whinger than Viking ton and MJ put together. Seriously, if you are so pissed off with McInally you might as well GTF right now . McInally is here to stay.

How you can post that with such apparent justifiable self righteousness defeats logic Cloth Ears.

Are you REALLY sure of your facts?
mortonjag 2007-09-20 06:07:45
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 19 2007, 07:39 PM) [snapback]335961[/snapback]
Why would I commit suicide?
I'm looking forward to the day when JM is either pushed or jumps. cool.gif

Don't you think that would be a bit too energetic?
mortonjag 2007-09-20 06:09:18
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 19 2007, 11:04 PM) [snapback]336106[/snapback]
This is a feel good thread.

Deego, VikingTon et al should go fck themselves. As the man says Jimbo will be here for a good while yet.

How long is this 'Good while'?
mortonjag 2007-09-20 06:16:00
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 19 2007, 11:27 PM) [snapback]336113[/snapback]
That's the issue I have too.

Only solution I can see is reinstall him as a striker but make him earn his starting place by getting fully fit.

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mortonjag 2007-09-20 06:22:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 18 2007, 07:07 PM) [snapback]335256[/snapback]
If the policy of the school is no football tops then no football tops it is - no exceptions.
I don't understand the furore over this. huh.gif

The furore, young man, is I believe justified.

If individual Headmasters were allowed to run their own schools, each case could be assessed on individual merit.

Administrators cow towing to Cooncillors is infinitely more wicked than a wee bit of National pride.
mortonjag 2007-09-20 06:23:38
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Sep 19 2007, 06:50 PM) [snapback]335920[/snapback]
i'd like to shove something up this tube's bangle, i'll admit it. maybe his own head.

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mortonjag 2007-09-20 06:28:04
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Sep 19 2007, 11:43 PM) [snapback]336121[/snapback]
LOL

ROLF

PDQ

ASAP

Bollocks

JMADDFRGTF
mortonjag 2007-09-20 06:31:18 I call myself-


Fah...
mortonjag 2007-09-20 06:34:08
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Sep 19 2007, 04:10 PM) [snapback]335836[/snapback]
Get yerself a bike - you know it makes no sense but yet you still want one. Says it all.

My son just bought a 125 cc Honda-one of those replica type things-it's got very little power, but looks the business. I've had a couple of wee shots, and I'm getting tempted.
mortonjag 2007-09-20 07:36:07
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 20 2007, 06:58 AM) [snapback]336197[/snapback]
I wouldn't say I'm a Rae appologist, or a fan of Rae, but being realistic he's far better than any other chairman we could have. Better the devil you know and all that.

Anyone remember our last chairman? People are so spoilt now and don't seem to remember that now, and just like moaning because things aren't exactly how they'd like them to be.

I'm don't agree with the way Rae runs our club, but he's acting with the best of faith and I'm not about to try and hound a guy out the door who's putting thousands into the club. Added to that we don't have another option, if people did make serious offers for the club and wanted to take over from Rae - they'd have made the press to try and get some fans on their side. Probably just some enquiries.

Rae could put the club up for sale, like a previous chairman did in the mid 90's, AND ANYONE COULD BUY US! I definately don't want that under any circumstances!

You're not a Rae apologist or one of his fans, you disagree with the way he runs the club, but you don't want somebody else to buy him out-UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!

It seems no time ago, young man, that you were taking me to task over by 'inability to present a reasoned argument! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-20 07:39:54
QUOTE(Ar1tch1e @ Sep 20 2007, 07:22 AM) [snapback]336199[/snapback]
I THINK WE SHOULD GO FOR MOURINHO??

I agree.

Do you think he might be persuaded to come?
mortonjag 2007-09-20 07:42:02
QUOTE(KATKIT @ Sep 20 2007, 12:32 AM) [snapback]336134[/snapback]
Mortonjag has been slating McCanally , I think hes persuaded Mourinho to come to Morton.

Thoughts anyone.

Dyslexia rules--KO
mortonjag 2007-09-20 07:42:56
QUOTE(princessTON @ Sep 20 2007, 06:43 AM) [snapback]336193[/snapback]
So long a way to run.....

Soh
a needle pulling thread...
mortonjag 2007-09-20 07:44:25
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Sep 20 2007, 07:36 AM) [snapback]336202[/snapback]
tried pm'ing you back last night but ur inbox was full laugh.gif

Incase u think i ignored you!

I too have experience of young Deegan's inbox. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-20 07:46:19
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Sep 20 2007, 07:37 AM) [snapback]336204[/snapback]
Got to agree biggrin.gif

bring on the next journey biggrin.gif

What happened to the little flying machine?
mortonjag 2007-09-20 07:48:41
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Sep 20 2007, 06:55 AM) [snapback]336196[/snapback]
Any1 see it this morning? Must have been in early.


‘Being on board is just magical... people hear QE2 and get excited’
SUSAN SWARBRICK September 20 2007

She was almost home again. As the Queen Elizabeth 2 glided through the North Atlantic yesterday, on the eve of the 40th anniversary of the launch of the legendary Clyde-built ship, not a single person on board was unaware of the tremendous sense of occasion.

It was a fiercely cold day, but a clutch of hardy souls were up on deck, braving the elements on the last leg of the journey from South Queensferry to Greenock. Inside, in the warmth, window seats were at a premium as passengers gazed out at the distant Scottish coastline.

Tickets for the special eight-night voyage around the UK sold out within a week of going on sale in April last year. For many, being here marked the culmination of a life-long ambition.
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Myra Hunter, a retired teacher from Glasgow, has waited 40 years for the trip. She had tickets to tour the ship before its maiden voyage to New York in 1969, but gave them to her parents.

"I told them I would come and see it for myself one day," she said. "This ship is extra special. Being on board feels like being part of a big family and the birthday girl is the ship. This ship belongs to the Clyde. I've watched from the shore before as the QE2 arrived. To be on board will be wonderful."

Of the 1628 passengers aboard, 1300 have travelled on the ship before. Among them are Maureen and David Anderson, originally from Glasgow and now living in Oxfordshire. This is their sixth time.

For Mr Anderson, the 40th anniversary is particularly poignant. His late father was one of the thousands who helped build the ship at Clydebank's John Brown shipyard. Now 65, Mr Anderson attended the launch in 1967 and has fond memories.

"I remember everyone in the crowd getting soaked as the chains went into the water when the ship was going down the slipway," he said. Mrs Anderson, 61, said: "Being on board is magical. People hear the name QE2 and they still get excited by it. It has such prestige."

Dressed, as ever, in his tracksuit, Sir Jimmy Savile was taking the air on the boat deck. He joined the ship at Scarborough on Sunday in the most unconventional fashion, commandeering a 50-year-old fishing trawler to sail alongside the QE2 and then scrambling up a rope ladder to climb aboard through the pilot's door. The veteran DJ has an enduring passion for the QE2, sailing on her more than 30 times.

Sir Jimmy, 80, who has a home in Glencoe, had hoped to convince Cunard, owners of the QE2, to make Loch Linnhe a port of call - but said today's arrival will more than make up for it. "To see the ship sail into Greenock will be a joy," he said.

Some travelled from across the globe to be part of the celebrations. Karl Johnstone, 46, a set dresser from Los Angeles, said: "I'm very excited. I booked 18 months ago and have been looking forward to it ever since."

On the bridge, Captain Ian McNaught was in good spirits. Born and raised in Tyneside, he has proud Scottish roots. His father is from Possilpark in Glasgow, and worked in the John Brown shipyard before pursuing a career at sea. "I feel very proud and excited," he said. "We are taking this great ship back to its birthplace. There are still so many people around who were involved in the building of the ship. We are arriving in Greenock very early because of the tides, but I think even at 7am there will be a lot of people waiting to welcome this ship home."

After leaving South Queensferry on Tuesday, the QE2 travelled up the east coast and through the Pentland Firth before passing the Western Isles. This morning, she will make the final approach towards Greenock.

There will be a flypast by the Red Arrows and a lunch on the ship to be attended by ex-John Brown workers.

At 2.28pm today - marking the exact moment of the launch in 1967 - the QE2's whistle will sound and a recording of the Queen's words as she named the ship will be played. There will be entertainment on the mile-long walkway at Greenock's Ocean Terminal, including pipe bands, a carousel, numerous stalls and displays.

The QE2 is due to leave Greenock at 6pm tonight to undertake a high-speed, measured mile off Arran. That formed part of the ship's original sea trials back in 1968. She will call at Liverpool tomorrow and return to Southampton on Sunday.

Today's arrival will mark the ship's penultimate visit to Scotland - she is still due a farewell voyage. Her final chapter will begin next year, when she becomes a floating hotel in Dubai.

All at sea for 40 years
# QE2 has sailed 5.6 million nautical miles, including 801 transatlantic crossings.

# It's still the fastest passenger ship in the world , with a top speed of 32.5 knots.

# It has had 2.5 million passengers, including the Queen, Nelson Mandela, and Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton.

# The QE2 made its maiden voyage to New York on May 2, 1969, completing the transatlantic crossing in four days, 16 hours and 35 minutes.

On September 11, 1995, the ship encountered a 96ft wave in the North Atlantic but sailed on almost seamlessly. Most passengers slept through it.

# Her final voyage will be from Southampton to Dubai on November 11, 2008. Afterwards, berthed permanently at the Palm Jumeirah as a luxury hotel.
mortonjag 2007-09-20 08:33:52
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 20 2007, 08:18 AM) [snapback]336212[/snapback]
deliberate misconstruction and childish use of smiley alert

Trumpet, as usual you have misconstrued.

That young man repeatedly asserts his ability to present a 'reasoned' argument.

Of course I understand what he's TRYING to say-he doesn't approve of Douglas Rae, but fears the 'Bogey Man'.

He might have said something like-

'While I am unhappy with Mr Rae's running of the club, there is no guarantee that an incomer would do a better job'.

In anticipation of possible replies-I only ever attack in defence.

May I add an emoticon, or three, for your attention?


sleep.gif ph34r.gif wacko.gif





mortonjag 2007-09-20 08:39:02
QUOTE(Lord Haw haw @ Sep 20 2007, 08:24 AM) [snapback]336214[/snapback]
Its great to see the people of this town jioning in the celebrations.

Union Jacks are flying high across the town. Greggs have even made a cracker cake with the flag hanging above it.

Days like today prove the Nationalist are way off the mark, and most people of Scotland back the Union and love seeing the Union Jack fly high.

God Save The Queen

Named in your honour I assume Hee Haw.
mortonjag 2007-09-20 16:11:39
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Sep 20 2007, 11:38 AM) [snapback]336273[/snapback]
dyslexia dues rule

Aye Pedro but KATKIT hasny the baws to admit it! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-20 16:15:42
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Sep 20 2007, 01:28 PM) [snapback]336297[/snapback]
LA

a note that follows soh?

Never went to musicals Sir?

Lah, a note TO follow soh

Te... a meal with jam and bread...
mortonjag 2007-09-20 16:17:42
QUOTE(Edinton @ Sep 20 2007, 02:36 PM) [snapback]336320[/snapback]
Maybe I'll let Hee Haw do it himself before I shop him..........? rolleyes.gif

Hoist by his own petard Mr Mod-I agree...

In due course Hee Haw shall be hung like a donkey.
mortonjag 2007-09-20 16:19:13
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 20 2007, 09:59 AM) [snapback]336248[/snapback]
It's way smaller than I remember it being...

Story of my life Nach0
mortonjag 2007-09-20 16:20:23
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 20 2007, 11:04 AM) [snapback]336266[/snapback]
Haw bloody Haw indeed. The Pride of the Clyde is the finest Ocean Liner ever. Instead of turning it into a poncey hotel in Dubai it should be returned to the Nation that built her. It could be the the mainstay of a Clyde Maritime Museum that would draw tourists from around the world as well as reminding the Clydesiders of their heritage.
So you can keep your God and your Queen to yourself (and choke on your cake from Greggs). laugh.gif

See you're just off the boat DE-welcome back!
mortonjag 2007-09-20 16:21:38
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Sep 20 2007, 01:44 PM) [snapback]336305[/snapback]
my dad worked on the qe2. reckon this means i should be given a free shot on my birthday. maybe i'll take it to millport for the day, who's up for it?

You said you don't like driving.
mortonjag 2007-09-20 16:23:34
QUOTE(upaclose @ Sep 20 2007, 02:05 PM) [snapback]336315[/snapback]
Thanks for the online diagnosis Dr Wankstaff, but I'm afraid I stopped being impressed by boats and planes when I was 7.

But if a bunch of like-minded simpletons wish to congregate in a public place and worship the pretty lights then who am I to criticise?

FFS he's 6 months down the line and thinks he's grown up.
mortonjag 2007-09-20 16:25:17
QUOTE(upaclose @ Sep 20 2007, 04:08 PM) [snapback]336361[/snapback]
She certainly did that Michael.

But what a ride she was. And indeed still is if you don't mind a bit of a dribble.

Hee Haw been boastin' again?
mortonjag 2007-09-20 16:31:01 Just to be a wee bit original, I think this side could do it.






McGurn

Shields Weatherson Harding Keenan

Millar Stevenson Gardyne Walker

Templeman Russell
mortonjag 2007-09-20 16:36:21
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 20 2007, 09:52 AM) [snapback]336243[/snapback]
Given the apparent criteria, these weren't "crunch games" either.

What were they-bounce games?

What are the criteria required to define a 'Crunch' game? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-20 16:37:25
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 20 2007, 10:17 AM) [snapback]336253[/snapback]
Cracking defender in his day, and shouldn't be past it at 32.

Again, would he choose us over Dundee?

Serious question



WOULD ANYBODY?
mortonjag 2007-09-20 16:38:42
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 20 2007, 10:19 AM) [snapback]336254[/snapback]
Are you suggesting I get happy pills from Jim McInally? I should think he needs all his for himself.

Are you suggesting that our Manager is a miserable character?
mortonjag 2007-09-20 16:44:14 Pretty good draw by any standards-our record last season against them, and Killie suggests this will be a cracker. Irrespective of our league position at the time, we can win this.

Edit-sorry Brechin, but they'll beat you first.
mortonjag 2007-09-20 16:47:56
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Sep 20 2007, 03:35 PM) [snapback]336341[/snapback]
Exactly, it's a different division for JM, its a different division for most of the players and it is certainly a different division for them as a team.

You lot really are a disgrace. Bad results will happen. you were told. We can't win every week. Will we sack Jim and get someone else in that knows how to get out of the first division then? Who's that then?

Opinion or fact?

In my opinion, many of JM's managerial performances have been 'disgraceful'.
mortonjag 2007-09-20 16:51:40
QUOTE(upaclose @ Sep 20 2007, 04:30 PM) [snapback]336375[/snapback]
It's probably best to lie about one's age in your company. In case you try the old "cure you with some of this sleepy juice" trick that's so popular with your profession.

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Staggery juice, one of my kids called it.

Sorry mate, I know you're at secondary School.
mortonjag 2007-09-20 17:02:33 I don't think we're likely to get many more votes, and with 50 replies the percentages are precise.


68% of Morton fans (who voted) think it's time for Mr Rae to hand over the reins to somebody else.

Not very scientific, but unlikely IMO to be far away from the general feeling throughout the fan base.

I wonder if Mr Rae will be aware of this.
mortonjag 2007-09-20 17:09:12
QUOTE(Lord Haw haw @ Sep 20 2007, 05:02 PM) [snapback]336390[/snapback]
The way I see it is, if Scotland was independant, then the QE2 would have been built down south, and we would have missed out an all the employment it created and the great boost to the economy it is having today.

It proves once again that Scotland needs to be part of Britain so that it can be supported by its neighbours. The oil you all bleat about doesn't cover all the bills.

Long Live The Queen

The way I see it Hee Haw is that you're very reminiscent of Claymore C*ck-bet you're sitting there all smug in nowt but a spunk spattered sporran.
mortonjag 2007-09-20 17:13:05
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 20 2007, 05:09 PM) [snapback]336394[/snapback]
That's the same with every club. Some fans, for one reason or another, are never happy until the current management team is gone. Look at the grief that Strachan gets at Celtic from some quarters.

True-I don't understand why an experienced manager should be treated the way poor little Cretin Gnome is.
mortonjag 2007-09-20 17:14:40
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 20 2007, 05:11 PM) [snapback]336395[/snapback]
Serious answer tongue.gif

It depends what the player is looking for when joining a club. Dundee are a bigger club, with a more immediate chance of getting into the SPL, so that alone may well swing it for a lot of players (though not for every player, it must be noted).

So you reckon the Ton's for 'losers'?
mortonjag 2007-09-20 17:18:25
QUOTE(Lord Haw haw @ Sep 20 2007, 05:15 PM) [snapback]336401[/snapback]
I dont have a sporran, or a kilt.

Tartan was banned in the 18th centuary for a reason mad.gif

AYE RIGHT Haggis Heid.
mortonjag 2007-09-20 17:20:51 ...and that will bring us back to...


DOH sleep.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-20 17:22:14
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Sep 20 2007, 05:19 PM) [snapback]336406[/snapback]
I can't name many managers that have made mistakes at the consistancy that Jim McInally has.

Infact, I can't name any.

Bertie Vogts?
mortonjag 2007-09-20 17:24:32
QUOTE(Lord Haw haw @ Sep 20 2007, 05:19 PM) [snapback]336407[/snapback]
A new one to me. Haggis Heid laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

But Sir your so wrong.

Have fun though

Indeed Bannock Baws.
mortonjag 2007-09-20 19:10:48
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 20 2007, 05:17 PM) [snapback]336402[/snapback]
Don't put words in my mouth, MJ rolleyes.gif

Just stating a fact that Dundee have better infrastructure both on and off the pitch, and are more equipped for SPL football that Morton....for now.

Wood eye? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-20 19:13:24
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 20 2007, 06:12 PM) [snapback]336449[/snapback]
Depends, he might find it tougher under Dougie Rae than he did under Abramovich tongue.gif

Just when he was getting fluent in Russian, he'd have to learn all about Buchanan's Toffees, Millions, and Fudgy Wudgys...too much I 'd guess.
mortonjag 2007-09-20 19:17:30
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 20 2007, 06:27 PM) [snapback]336451[/snapback]
But could someone who was success driven get more financial sense out of the clubs assets i.e a better commercial division if it were to their own advantage ie bonus payments .
I believe Dougie has his heart firmly in the right place but whether the decisions he has made have brought success in the optimum timescale or his need to have spent so much in the transfer market remains open to question .
All I am hinting at is the need to look beyond DDFR's reign . If Dougie gets it wrong then the club will suffer once his chairmanship has gone .
So in that respect I do worry that the longer we blunder along needlessly spending while not taking advantage of incoming revenue the longer we will eventually take in fixing these issues .

I honestly believe that at the age of 76 Mr Rae is still young enough to see the Ton have a good few successful years in the SPL-IF HE PLAYS HIS CARDS RIGHT.

Guess it's over to him.
mortonjag 2007-09-20 19:28:56
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Sep 20 2007, 05:50 PM) [snapback]336435[/snapback]
There is a five page thread discussing who should replace our manager. Am I flipping out? Am I missing something? Are we missing the part of the word supporter that is support?

There's a witchunt on here. How can you see how someone does at a higher level if you don't let him do it? PLayers out of position puzzles me too, but he's not doing it out of bloody mindedness, he's not trying to sabotage Morton or something! Excellent results and tactics like those at Dunfermline are conveniently forgotten.

Morton had a surprisingly good start and have now come to terms with the reality of the task ahead in the first division. it's time many of you started doing that too instead of knee jerk sacking shouts.

I don't know about you, but I remember being in first before, and before the off field problems took their toll and sent us plummeting. It was tough. We were a mid table team. I want to be better than that, but it's probably not gonna happen this year.

Get real?

A witch-hunt! laugh.gif

It's not that at all Donga-get real.

Here's an example from my own profession. You have a young doctor in the practice-at first he makes several mistakes. A couple, by any professional standards, are fairly serious, and treatment has to be started all over again, but because he's inexperienced, he's given the benefit of the doubt.

Unfortunately he keeps making the same mistakes time after time. It becomes evident that he doesn't really seem up to the job-sure he might get more competent in a few more years, but are you going to risk that ultimate fatal blunder?

Are you doing your patients a service by retaining him?

Will they ever forgive you if you do, and the inevitable happens?





mortonjag 2007-09-20 19:35:17
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 20 2007, 07:24 PM) [snapback]336481[/snapback]
sorry to be a pedant, but "68% of Morton fans who voted" (no parentheses) would be a little nearer the mark.

or better still, "34 voters"

or even "34 voters out of 2192"

or maybe "34 voters out of 2192 who have been inundated with propaganda"

it's not so much the 'science' as the bias and significance you see. clearly, you've never been involved in managing clinical trials, and you were probably asleep during your stats lectures tongue.gif

anyway, enough of the small talk. i'm sure you're right. have you considered putting yourself forward as a board member? you could surely get on as a supporters' trust representative after a brief but vicious campaign. you'd get my vote (only i'm not a trust member).

(BTW - the way arithmetic works, percentages can 'age precise' without round numbers)

The 'age' has been edited-TY!

So you think that my very unscientific poll may not reflect current opinion Trumpet-we may just have to wait for the even less scientific, but much more potent effect of half a dozen folk in the stand baying loudly for Mr Rae's head!
mortonjag 2007-09-21 05:08:10
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 20 2007, 07:45 PM) [snapback]336495[/snapback]
answer the question - have you considered being board? (did you threaten to overrule the monkey?)

and presumably, you (+ the monkey and your respectable brother) sit in the stand? so who are the other three?

I am not obliged to answer questions Sir, but for what it's worth I hate Boards and Committees, whose efficiency is usually inversely proportional to the number of members.

My suggestion that half a dozen patient season ticket holders might ultimately lose patience with the current regime was largely figurative as I'm sure you know.

All I'm suggesting is that DDFR may ultimately end up being much more embarrassed than I believe is necessary.l
mortonjag 2007-09-21 05:34:44
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 21 2007, 01:14 AM) [snapback]336638[/snapback]
I remember the last time we were in the 1st but I remember the quality being better than it is now. I think some people mistake this league for being good because it's competitive in that most teams are capable of beating each other. I've seen most of the teams now and I've not been impressed with any of them, the all round quality is poor. Hamilton are running away with the division and I didn't think they were that good. Personally, I think it is easier for a team a team like Morton to make an impact on the 1st division than it was when we were a mid table team in the mid to late 90's.

I've used 'witch hunt' to describe Jim McInally's criticism on here before and I believe I was justified at the time. Some of the treatment and comments have been well over the top and sometimes personal. However, without being personal or even calling for his sacking I, and I think the vast majority of Morton supporters, are starting (or have had for a while) to have major doubts about McInally's managerial abilities.

I do agree with you about being supporters. I'm increasing disillusioned by some of our fans. The players are abused constantly even when they make the slightest mistake and the abuse isn't just along the lines of 'c'mon Ryan stop punting it forward'. It's things like 'f***ing hell Harding ya f***ing w*nker, stop punting it forward ya dick'. This was all brought home to me when I went down to watch Aston Villa play Sheffield United at Bramall Lane. The players in tehese teams are guys who are playing in arguably the best league in the world and are paid a fortune to do so. So you'd expect that if they made mistakes they would get much worse abuse than Scottish Second Division players. There were a couple of incidents when Milan Baros and Gavin McCann (I think) made pretty bad errors, just as they made them I sort of cringed expecting the same barrage of abuse that I could imagine in my head happening at Cappielow but it never came, not once, for any mistake. The fans got behind the team and sang the whole game and you could see the effect it had on the team and the appreciation from the players at the end of the match. I don't mind criticism when it's justified, especially not on an unofficial messageboard but when it's personal abuse at games it does my head in, especially from guys who are absolutely clueless.

As I've said before, Jonaton, I always give full support at matches-I would not dream of hurling abuse at Shoogly, JM, or even Cappie, when they're at their work and only doing their best.

It's different on a message board-we're surely all entitled to share EXACTLY how we feel-getting rid of pent up thoughts and emotions harmlessly is therapeutic, and it's daft to describe as a 'Witch-hunt', a supposedly 'private' expression of feelings to fellow fans.

The truth appears to be that even the most patient are running out of steam-I've already remarked on the 70% who 'had full confidence in the manager's ability' having melted like snow off a dyke.

There's no 'feel good' factor at Cappielow those days, and like it or not, that is characterised by the match day behaviour of our sometimes seemingly inanimate Manager. We have no Chick Charnley personalities in the Squad to cheer the players up-a pretty bland lot, and let's be honest, the lads don't always respond well to the fans, so it's hardly surpising that when we're doing badly and not scoring, some fans get carried away on match days.
mortonjag 2007-09-21 05:45:49
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 20 2007, 10:47 PM) [snapback]336585[/snapback]
I would agree but drop Harding instead of Greacen. I think you will also need Finlayson instead of Millar given the latter is out for at least another couple of weeks with a hamstring injury.

OOPS-then stick Kev in-he's been better going forward-final product's still 'iffy' but definitely better.
mortonjag 2007-09-21 05:48:57
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 20 2007, 09:47 PM) [snapback]336562[/snapback]
that would make you a nationalist hero dude on this board, dude

Sure would, Dude!
mortonjag 2007-09-21 05:52:08
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 20 2007, 08:42 PM) [snapback]336536[/snapback]
i used to go to school in inverkip - has it changed then?

Nope-still as illiterate as ever! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-21 05:56:37
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 20 2007, 11:54 PM) [snapback]336609[/snapback]
biscuit, cake, badger, ocean-going steamer - you guys are so unimaginative

An unpleasant surprise for someone who's blind, anosmic, and allergic to chocolate, oranges, and gluten? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-21 05:58:53
QUOTE(carlito @ Sep 20 2007, 11:50 PM) [snapback]336607[/snapback]
Shortbread is clearly a biscuit!

If shortbread is a biscuit, I'm NOT gay.
mortonjag 2007-09-21 06:01:02
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 20 2007, 11:33 PM) [snapback]336601[/snapback]
me, i kinda agree, myself

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mortonjag 2007-09-21 06:04:07
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Sep 21 2007, 06:01 AM) [snapback]336648[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

fah

I'd go to watch the Ton....
mortonjag 2007-09-21 06:07:27
QUOTE(Lord Haw haw @ Sep 20 2007, 08:12 PM) [snapback]336511[/snapback]
I will not be silenced by the nationalist clique that infests this board !

Would that bear a passing resemblance to the Anti-Catholic hegemony which was so efficiently SCOTCHED by Sick Mick? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-21 06:11:53
QUOTE(Lord Haw haw @ Sep 21 2007, 12:03 AM) [snapback]336617[/snapback]
Correct my friend. The Scottish people do not want to break up the UK.

To say they do is nationalist propaganda. We have had 300 years of prosperity with England. What's ours is theirs, and what theirs is ours.
That's the way a successful marriage works. This is not a time for divorce.

No way are you married Hee Haw, with that huge union jack tattooed on yer tadger. Women know about HIV and hepatitis those days.
mortonjag 2007-09-21 06:14:08
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 21 2007, 12:26 AM) [snapback]336628[/snapback]
you see, sometimes a one-liner is enough

Sometimes! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-21 06:15:23
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 21 2007, 12:33 AM) [snapback]336631[/snapback]
the important thing is the leather suit - never mind the bike

Aparently leather's passe, unless you're an 'Angel'.
mortonjag 2007-09-21 06:20:52
QUOTE(CraigoTON @ Sep 20 2007, 11:12 PM) [snapback]336594[/snapback]
october the 5th, is when my dad said it was due back


QUOTE(lush @ Sep 20 2007, 08:24 PM) *
8th September. Final cruise before it is turned into a hotel, in Dubai i think? unsure.gif

Correct.

But is it not October next year it comes back to Greenock?


Ladies and gentlemen PLEASE.

A ship is described as 'SHE'.
mortonjag 2007-09-21 06:24:45
QUOTE(thedonn @ Sep 21 2007, 03:29 AM) [snapback]336640[/snapback]
im also on the nightshift have been for 14 years.........its great as you dont have as many gaffers about.

Aye, but will they know you when you get home?
mortonjag 2007-09-21 07:23:01
QUOTE(Tinton @ Sep 21 2007, 06:42 AM) [snapback]336656[/snapback]
Guys, this forum is boring beyond belief. If you�€™ve had kids you�€™ll know what it�€™s like when they want something they�€™re not getting, they just go on and on and on about it endlessly until you give in. This is no longer a discussion forum as it has been hi-jacked by a small number of people who are members of a single issue pressure group. Several threads a day are started on the subject of the manager�€™s ability, every other thread is turned into that topic, but only by a small number of persistent people. There will be many, like myself, who don�€™t feel the need to offer the opposing view every time so we become the �€œsilent majority�€�. I have given my views a couple of time so I think that�€™s sufficient.

Guys, we get the message, you don�€™t like Jim McInally, you don�€™t rate him as a manager of Morton, you want him replaced forthwith with anybody because anybody would be better. We know this is your view and frankly you should be getting worried that for some of you it�€™s getting close to an obsession.

Having read the many, many threads on the subject and the hundreds (thousands?) of posts on other threads I feel a few are going over and over old ground, could we not just agree to disagree?

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Morning Tinton,

You've only given your views a couple of times, and it seems that's been far from sufficient-indeed I'm not even sure what it is we've to agree to disagree on!

I'm sure you'll disagree, but you appear to be suggesting that there's a 'silent majority' of fans who still have total faith in JM. If that's the case, I'm afraid I'll have to agree to disagree.

Why don't you post a LITTLE more-it costs nothing, and in no time you may find yourself down at the level of the common 5/8ths. It's not THAT degrading-honestly. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-21 14:59:06
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 21 2007, 11:58 AM) [snapback]336700[/snapback]
If he reads this he will be!

Doubt if he bothers, and doubt if he would TBH.
mortonjag 2007-09-21 15:26:17
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Sep 21 2007, 01:53 PM) [snapback]336724[/snapback]
We used to be like that, did we not? Singing, getting behind the team? Am I just being rose tinted, as per? smile.gif Are we all just more cynical now a days? One thing we are more of is impatient. Everything needs to be done, just like that. Click. Sack him. I really think this is a critical time for Morton and I don't think Rae can sack JM. I honestly think that that would be a major mistake for the club.
What team does have a Chic Charnley? it is indicative of the game now. It IS bland. There are few personalities, it's a business, even at our level. The last we had was Andy McLaren and to me he seemed like a throwback to another era and not for all the right reasons a lot of the time. Are you criticising the manager for not recruiting a "character" in the squad?

I think WE are one of the major reasons for no feel good factor. I honestly believe you have it the wrong way round, MortonJag - we are feeding it, not the team feeding it to us.

As tinton says, it is not a private expression of feelings to fellow fans, there are a few ringleaders and you are whipping up a storm of bad feeling and negativity and know exactly what you are doing, you have some personal issue with JM over some Aussie boy trialists, an issue that apparently isn't even much of your business, you've recruited some other weakminded individuals to chip in and a madman from the other side of the world who has not seen a Morton game for what over a decade? I am actually shocked that you are being taken seriously.
Bang on.

Donga, you probably don't realise that there is a crucial difference between my posts and yours.

When I post, I'm careful to point out that I'm voicing opinion. How can I possibly have 'a personal issue with JM over some Aussie boy trialists' when neither NewTON or myself EVER knew if JM even received a message about them? Furthermore I can assure you that the former is no 'madman', and has seen the Ton in the last year or so.

Given that you happily post libellous comments, I'm unsurprised that your naivety leaves you 'shocked' when others see the common sense on this issue.

I rode out about ten times the volume of the personal abuse I'm now getting when I called it as I saw it on JM, and a few of the guys have had the decency to apologise.

You are the one who's now out on a limb-perfectly entitled to your opinion-of course.

I guess the posters whom you've globally labelled as a 'weakminded individuals' will be too weak to defend themselves against your apparently attention grabbing comments about them. ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-21 15:39:42
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 21 2007, 02:02 PM) [snapback]336728[/snapback]
It's quite simple, Morton is part of Golden Casket. Golden Casket and Morton's income all go into the business and their costs come out. Every year, this arranagement turns a profit (most of this is down to Golden Casket) but there isn't anything to worry about.
So you'd be happy for Rae to put the club up for sale and some property developer buy us. I'd rather just have Rae in charge.

Also - trying to prove a point with these polls is crazy. Can't believe you are even attempting it. That makes a mockery of reasones argument.

Piehole, I have full copies of the most recent accounts for GMFC. I do understand EXACTLY how the financial side runs! laugh.gif

I can't see how your unfailing logic leads you to the conclusion that 'I'd be happy for Rae to put the Club up for sale'-I have NEVER said, nor suggested that! laugh.gif

If you believe those polls are crazy and pointless, why don't you take that up with the Gaffer?

I think that what you REALLY mean is that they seem to confound your 'reasoned argument'.

I'd suggest there may be a REASON for that.

If a tree fell in the forest, and nobody was aware of the event, did it still make a noise?
mortonjag 2007-09-21 16:03:18
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 21 2007, 10:22 AM) [snapback]336680[/snapback]
Don't know. [font="Impact"]

LargsTon defines this season's win at Dunfermline as a "random league game".

Presumably the games Toby refers to were also "random league games", or ALL matches are "crunch games".

So, either we won lots of crunch games under JM last season or some/ none from a finite list picked to prove a point.

Lies, Damned Lies and Statistice I guess.

Suppose it depends on the point you want to make.

All incidental to the argument. I'm sure the intended point was that we have lost a few games which were important at the time - Peterhead play offs being the games which spring to mind.

Last season, though, we clearly won enough games to invalidate the point about that particular season.
edited to note that I've started using lots of "inverted commas"........worrying.

Crunch- a crucial point or situation, typically one at which a decision with important consequences must be made'--Oxford English Dictionary.

Also gives good tips on the use of apostropes! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-21 16:05:57
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 21 2007, 01:53 PM) [snapback]336723[/snapback]
It seems that Mr Rae, like mortonjag, has been self employed for most of his life. mortonjag now lives in a 'cocoon' with few friends or interests other than this messageboard.

Mr Rae, however, is chairman of a successful confectioner and football club, and brings a great deal to the Inverclyde economy as well as having a fairly substantial personal and family wealth.

I just wonder what it is that mortonjag knew in his career that 'shoogly' didn't that allowed mortonjag to become much less successful than Dougie. It seems he is far more able than Mr Rae, however despite his constant criticisms does not have a personal wealth great enough to buy Rae out and show us all how good he is.

Such a shame, just think what we could achieve with his vast levels of mediocrity and a constant negative attitude at the helm.

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mortonjag 2007-09-21 16:08:33
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 21 2007, 01:56 PM) [snapback]336726[/snapback]
Totally agree, these people who say our league victory was a fluke or blame McInally for the play-off fiasco are deluded. We showed great consistancy last season and won the league with weeks to spare because we were the best team.

As I've said before, Dick Campbell won a few crunch games with Thistle - would you rather have him in charge?

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...and it's not your rudimentary spelling mistake which is making me laugh, Professor.
mortonjag 2007-09-21 16:11:34
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 21 2007, 02:07 PM) [snapback]336730[/snapback]
And yet, the only real target last season was to get out of the 2nd division.

Whichever way you spin that, JM achieved his goals.


In my, admittedly, narrow view of life, goals achieved = success.

I think the real target this season is survival.

Therefore, if we start season 2008/2009 in the first division, JM would, in those narrow terms, be successful.

What are your criteria?

JM was the manager of a squad which struggled its way painfully and erratically to promotion. I'd hardly guess that was his goal.
mortonjag 2007-09-21 16:19:27
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Sep 21 2007, 04:01 PM) [snapback]336756[/snapback]
I was out of order about weakmindedness and NewTon is of course no madman.

But there are people who should know better being taken in.

Yes I'm out on a limb, and I don't care. I think I'll be proven to be correct in my support of our manager, as I have been proven correct on other things over the years.

There is only one attention grabber on this thread, and it isn't me!

You're still at it Donga-giving with one hand and taking with the other. I agree this is my opinion, but it seems crystal clear that many people believe they were 'taken in' by JM.

I've been accused of 'attention seeking' more times than matter-water off a duck's back. I'll continue to call it as I see it, and folk are entirely free to do the same.
mortonjag 2007-09-21 16:27:05
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 21 2007, 02:29 PM) [snapback]336734[/snapback]
I'm beginning to warm to the Nationalist who is masquerading here.
If it's not Rabdul T Bruce who might it be?

Colkitto springs to mind.

Edinton, check the IP, out the bassa. tongue.gif

Ha Mr Trollbuster-CLAYMORE C*CK has already denied this more then once-WTF is he-he should be JUMPING down Hee Haw's throat on this! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-21 16:30:13
QUOTE(Lord Haw haw @ Sep 21 2007, 02:44 PM) [snapback]336740[/snapback]
How easy it is to brush aside a TRUE Unionist, just because its so hard to believe with all the Nationalist vile being spouted on here on a daily basis.

Am a Brit through and through and proud of it, and part of a greater following than any silly nationalist uprising, that will soon brushed aside as people realise what side their bread is buttered.

I will not go away just because you make a silly accusation, British and Proud

C'mon bannock brain, you've not posted as Colkitto for ages. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-21 16:32:09
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Sep 21 2007, 03:58 PM) [snapback]336755[/snapback]
So, I'm not the only one who noticed Robert the Bruce suddenly stopped posting when Haw Haw appeared.

To be sure it may be the said arachnophiliac, but WTF is our champion of Nationalism-Haggis Heid-aka Colkitto?
mortonjag 2007-09-21 16:42:58 In my experience many Down's Syndrome people are winsome and more intelligent and perceptive than is commonly believed. Unfortunately the opposite also applies.

Their parents' lives are inevitably compromised, sometimes to a degree where marriages collapse, and psychological illness in such parents is significantly higher than in the population at large.
mortonjag 2007-09-22 06:49:09
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 21 2007, 09:06 PM) [snapback]336857[/snapback]
so are you an agnostic or what?

I'd love to say 'what' but I dont know.
mortonjag 2007-09-22 06:58:00
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Sep 21 2007, 04:54 PM) [snapback]336776[/snapback]
I DO cheer my team on. I DO support them.

However, if I'm not allowed to discuss the faults on a discussion forum, then there's no point in this forum even existing. Fair enough on complaining about it happening at the ground, but this is a discussion forum, and anyone who tries to censor me can, quite frankly, kiss my arse.

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mortonjag 2007-09-22 07:03:29
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 21 2007, 05:09 PM) [snapback]336780[/snapback]
I fully agree. I have not been posting as much as I used to and am currently very selective in what I post. I have not enjoyed the last few results any more than any fan but I am encouraged by the fact that in a least two of our defeats (QoS and Livingston) we were not beaten by a substantially better side. Strange as it sounds, despite losing 4 goals last week, I thought Livvy looked a team there for the taking. Trouble is, when you express views like that you only expose yourself to abuse from the know it alls, one of whom tried to tell me we were sh1t against East Stirling on the basis of having listened to the webcast. I was there but my opinion was less relevant than his because he knew from the way experienced observer, Andy M was commentating that we were flattered by the score??? Another critic that I know of has only been to a couple of games this season but has the answer to all the team's ills.

I do support giving JmC more time. If we are in relelgation danger at Christmas, I might then think that bringing in someone new who will have the opportunity to make a couple of signings of his own in the window. If we are not in relegation trouble then I will stick with Jim Mc and give him this season as a learning curve. Bear in mind, a successful manager with one team may not repeat the act with another - recent example is Craig Brewster - great with Caley (first time) and could do nothing with Dundee United despite having a big signing budget. Theres no guarantee that we would not just jump out of the frying pan into the fire.

In truth, I do have my own worries about J Mc and they are mainly around whether he has the ability to motivate players and lift them out of a losing streak. Losing, like winning, becomes a habit! Thing is though, why is it I am nervous of expressing those views on this forum? I did'nt used to be!

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'Cos you're used to getting your own way perhaps. It's not pleasant when 75% of posters are constantly ripping your opinions to shreds Tonsilitis-I've been there. Have you had many threatening p.m.s yet?
mortonjag 2007-09-22 07:06:41
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 21 2007, 08:10 PM) [snapback]336827[/snapback]
i'm sorry, i know i shouldn't, and it's very childish but,

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I qualified that statement Trumpet. You chose to ignore the qualification. Knotty.
mortonjag 2007-09-22 07:10:03
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 21 2007, 09:04 PM) [snapback]336855[/snapback]
groan. men.

Negativity boys and groan men-even!
mortonjag 2007-09-22 07:12:57
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Sep 21 2007, 09:33 PM) [snapback]336867[/snapback]
I agree with you and ScotinBelgie. As an ex-pat who has not seen the team as often as I would have liked over the last 5 years or so, I feel we have made steady progress over that period mainly due to the efforts of our much -maligned (by some) Chairman. I recently joined this Messageboard thinking it would be a way of 'keeping in touch', but have been shocked by the 'know-it-all' attitude of some supporters not to speak of the outright hostility towards the Chairman and Jim McInally.

Still, I am sensible enough to realise that 'the glass half-empty' brigade are not representative of the majority of the Morton support
, although they think they are. I don't think I'll be contributing much from now on and I'll restrict myself to the Pie & Bovril site where the supporters don't appear to be as vindictive towards their own Club as ours do. huh.gif

Shouldn't that word read 'hope'?
mortonjag 2007-09-22 07:18:13
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 21 2007, 09:33 PM) [snapback]336868[/snapback]
I think that's fair enough. If relegation is looking like a certainty I would support that.

Giove the guy a bit of time to settle though.

That's what I also have suggested Trumpton. If we lose again today, the hypermetropic WILL see relegation as a distinct possibility. I still believe we'll finish in the lower half, but have never imagined we'd be relegated.
mortonjag 2007-09-22 07:30:33
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 21 2007, 09:24 PM) [snapback]336865[/snapback]
Actually, I'm sure that promotion WAS his goal. At the start of last season i'm sure you would have accepted promotion regardless of how it was achieved.
At risk of repeating myself ladies, but....

His task was to get Morton promoted. Morton got promoted. Ergo........

He narrowly failed to get us promoted in his first full season. In his second, Morton were promoted.

I can see it hurts to admit it, but JM has NOT been a failure so far.

In the sense that my Monkey could probably have achieved the task more easily with the resources at JM's disposal, I'd suggest that Pyrrhic victory springs to mind.

One of my lasting memories of 'promotion' is the sight of Shoogly being bounced up in the air at Kirkcaldy after an uninspiring defeat. The look of sheer ecstatic relief on his face said everything, and JM was nowhere to be seen.
mortonjag 2007-09-22 07:36:12
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 21 2007, 09:49 PM) [snapback]336872[/snapback]
Oh dear a smiley. I thought he'd maybe just leave it, but a smiley really is running out of ideas.
And now the spelling police. A new low. This is barely fun now such is the lack of a decent responce.

Listen Piehole, I'm perfectly happy to keep jousting with guys who have a wee bit of savvy, and I RARELY point out spelling mistakes.

The fact that you've produced ANOTHER merely confirms that you are an uneducated young clot.
mortonjag 2007-09-22 07:38:17
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 21 2007, 10:01 PM) [snapback]336879[/snapback]
Oh no. All McInally's achievements sweeped under the carpet again. It's not enough to get to 2 cup semi's in a row (now 3) and get beaten away by teams in a higher league. We MUST win every game, by at least 8 goals, to have achieved everything.

How many times did Gretna or Thistle win 9-1 against 'pishy' teams? That's a once in a lifetime thing for players at this level.

I'm sure you walked out of Cappielow that day thinking 'oh well, we humped a pishy side 9-1, should have done that every week for 3 years'.
You weren't thinking, 'That's great, pretty much won the league with a few weeks left.'

ARE YOU FOR REAL PROFESSOR?
mortonjag 2007-09-22 07:41:18
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 21 2007, 10:42 PM) [snapback]336891[/snapback]
Definitely a sweeper, aye.

Imagine if he could play for us today!
mortonjag 2007-09-22 07:43:39
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 21 2007, 09:30 PM) [snapback]336866[/snapback]
Ohhh hokey coakley coakley

Hopefully he'll come back a better player, as I'm not convinced by him so far.

Good luck to him though!

HOAKLEY Coakley, Coakley if you don't mind.
mortonjag 2007-09-22 07:45:10 What's everybody girning about? One mistake isn't the end of the world.
mortonjag 2007-09-22 07:47:48 I don't think NewTON was disagreeing with JM.
mortonjag 2007-09-22 07:52:31 Not much enthusiasm and debate around the predictions thread those days. To me that suggests there is something lacking.

I'm sticking with my 3-2 victory.

C'mon lads, we're in this together from 3 p.m. Good luck.
mortonjag 2007-09-22 07:54:42
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 21 2007, 05:24 PM) [snapback]336786[/snapback]
No.
That team does not fill me with any confidence whatsoever.
Sign a £40,000 striker - bench him after two games?
Haven't we been down that road before? unsure.gif

Pretty obvious Leafy has to play off Sanny IMO.
mortonjag 2007-09-22 07:55:42
QUOTE(briggsTON @ Sep 21 2007, 05:37 PM) [snapback]336792[/snapback]
No good 'mortonjag', they are all playing in their own positions

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mortonjag 2007-09-23 07:31:53
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 22 2007, 12:11 PM) [snapback]337029[/snapback]
Stopped ages ago.

May we be privy to the identity of Professor Piehole's preferred publication?
mortonjag 2007-09-23 07:33:45
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 22 2007, 10:36 AM) [snapback]336987[/snapback]
Thats not what we've said about Dougie's last mistake ? laugh.gif

Wasn't aware he'd made it yet!
mortonjag 2007-09-23 07:40:11
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Sep 22 2007, 07:11 PM) [snapback]337328[/snapback]
Oh aye, and he has the pleasure of having loads of players to pick from, if anyone should take any blame for results its DDR, all that dosh for McGowan as has been said before, why didnt he give it to J Mc to get more players in.
Another s***e post

Correct Gibby. The boys played well yesterday. If ever we needed proof that two or three wise signings could have seen us having a pot at promotion we got it yesterday. Look at ALL the results in the Division.

Ultimately it's Shoogly and not JM who is the villain of the piece.

I regard him as a liability. He must step aside.
mortonjag 2007-09-23 07:42:15
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 22 2007, 07:14 PM) [snapback]337335[/snapback]
You really are clutching at straws after a great performance.
Unlucky not to get all 3 points. Jim had 4 players injured at the start of the game, then was forced into 3 subs due to injuries during the game. We get a result and you're still moaning.

Gardyne, could argue he plays most of his football up front. McAlister, comes in one as we are short of central midfielders. Everyone else, pretty much where they usually play.

Would expect this type of crap from mortonjag, but you should know better not to go creating topics that don't exist. If you're going to have a go like that, perhaps put at least SOME substance to your post and suggest an alternative side?

One day you'll get something right Prof!
mortonjag 2007-09-23 07:52:19 I believe the First Aiders belong to a voluntary organisation-not sure whether it's St John or St Andrew who's in charge, but they only have basic first aid training-yesterday their role was were little more than that of porters.

In the Alex Walker situation, if I'm not mistaken, our club doctor made his way brisky on to the pitch, though I could swear he didn't sprint!

Like so many others yesterday, those first aiders were only doing their best.
mortonjag 2007-09-23 07:55:35
QUOTE(GMC @ Sep 22 2007, 10:05 PM) [snapback]337582[/snapback]
Thought this was going to be genuine praise, instead it seems like another pointless go at JM for not starting Shields. rolleyes.gif

Good (nothing more) player who gives his all and is hard in the tackle. Like a midget version of Dean Keenan really.

So nobody's allowed to assess JM but you come out with that about a player whose talent is sticking out a mile!
mortonjag 2007-09-23 08:00:02
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Sep 22 2007, 10:09 PM) [snapback]337586[/snapback]
Dont rate him as a centre midfielder. Puts in some hard tackles andcons half the cowshed into thinking that means he's playing good. His second touch in the middle is a tackle. However i think he's do a good job at right back( The position he was signed as) much better than weatherson is there!

He was one of very few who showed some inspiration in midfield in the second half at Stirling, though I'd prefer to see him allowed to develop as our natural right back. The reason he didn't start there yesterday was because a striker was preferred.
mortonjag 2007-09-23 08:01:24
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Sep 22 2007, 11:39 PM) [snapback]337634[/snapback]
mortonjag will be so proud! smile.gif

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mortonjag 2007-09-23 08:06:45
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 22 2007, 08:19 PM) [snapback]337501[/snapback]
Apart from the tackle on Gardyne there wasn't much wrong with the physical nature of the game. I thought the guy got the ball with one leg and battered our guy with the other.
I feel that our guys need to toughen up. Too many shirked 50/50 tackles. It's a league higher than last season so that side of the game will be greater.

And JM deserves credit-our boys came out after the break and started to 'mix it'. We were bullied in the first half and Somers let most of it go. mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-23 08:12:58
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Sep 23 2007, 12:31 AM) [snapback]337660[/snapback]
gardyne will be fine!

Info from nurse in casualty...crutches for about 3 days thne weight bearing after that....

Lucky boy

Not always wise to take nurses' promises at face value Flight!
mortonjag 2007-09-23 08:14:52
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 22 2007, 09:55 PM) [snapback]337579[/snapback]
Will def be as good a partner for Temps as we've seen. Plays off the last defender, where as Temps comes short and looks for it.

Also, think Temps will knock a lot of headers down for him.

And, I think will prove himself as the best finisher at the club.

Agree!
mortonjag 2007-09-23 08:16:57
YES
mortonjag 2007-09-23 08:20:34 Robinson didn't make one save yesterday so far as I recall. We already know about our defensive weaknesses-don't see the point in slagging the guys off after a great team effort.

Ryan will come good again.
mortonjag 2007-09-23 08:28:01
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 23 2007, 02:31 AM) [snapback]337709[/snapback]
Was wondering who'd pick up on that! laugh.gif

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We got a good view of Derek as he came off. First he turned towards the away support, and applauded, then still applauding, he turned to face the Ton fans in the stand. I couldn't hear any booing.
mortonjag 2007-09-23 08:33:19
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 23 2007, 12:55 AM) [snapback]337675[/snapback]
I don't think our crowds are piss poor, but I think as we are not challenging for a trophy we won't see many above 3,000 unless anyone brings a decent away support (Thistle probably the only ones).

Home games so far have been not bad. Hopefully exciting open games will be the order of the day and this will encourage a few more folk to turn up.

Would like to see us average 3,000 which is perhaps not beyond us and will def be competitive in this league.

Correct again Prof- if there's something worth watching, the fans will be there. Our current support is still well below that of a couple of seasons back, but if we start knocking in some goals, the buzz will return.
mortonjag 2007-09-23 08:37:53
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Sep 23 2007, 03:46 AM) [snapback]337713[/snapback]
Not like me to agree but he was immense today , Jamie came to life in the second half

Good Battling performance

Well Done Lads

[b]We still conceded 2 goals from silly mistakes tho[/b]

REALLY! rolleyes.gif

Full credit to every player-didn't see any passengers yesterday, and we could have won this one-made two or three good chances in the last ten minutes but they didn't fall for us.
mortonjag 2007-09-23 08:42:55 If Lee had gone the right way for the penalty, he'd be challenging Craig Gordon on the forum this morning!

Give the boy a break.
mortonjag 2007-09-23 08:46:35
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 22 2007, 08:50 AM) [snapback]336960[/snapback]
Unless piehutt really is crap at spelling, I think you've been whooshed MJ (probably no' for the first time either rolleyes.gif ).

Maybe I need a bit of whooshing at times Naitch. Have I misjudged Professor Piehole?
mortonjag 2007-09-23 08:51:23
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 22 2007, 09:21 AM) [snapback]336969[/snapback]
Well, like I've said and you admitted you accept - Dougie will always take an interest. You can have his Money AND Dougie but not just his money. If you really know better, go and put an offer in yourself.

Also, if you do actually think you have made a point with these polls then you are really so far off the mark. Like trumpton posted, 31 folk out of 2500+ represents such a small minority of fans (who have volunteered their response) that it barely counts as a reply.

Do you think the 2-1 vote which agrees that Shoogly should hang about, but appoint an 'organiser' is unrepresentative of opinion in general?

If so, what statistics do you have to prove that?
mortonjag 2007-09-23 08:59:26
QUOTE(Tinton @ Sep 22 2007, 10:05 AM) [snapback]336982[/snapback]
This poll is most definitely meaningless and unscientific. I posted in another thread about how a very few people bleat on and on about their negative views of Mr Rae and Jim McInally. When you read the posts you will see that it is the same people making the same points. The idea seems to be that if you keep on asking people to vote you will eventually get the result you want. I have not voted and have no intention of doing so and I’m sure there are many others who feel the same.

I believe we should all have the opportunity to express our opinions and that there should be no censorship neither should anyone be lambasted for their views. There is a difference between expressing an opinion and whinging on endlessly repeating the same thing old thing over and over again.

I find it disrespectful in the extreme what is said on here about Douglas Rae, by this I do not mean he is above criticism but the way he is mocked is slightly childlike. The man can’t even buy a pie from Greggs for his lunch without becoming the object of ridicule.

I know some have deeply held feelings about Rae and McInally and I respect the right to hold them, I also know some people come on here and post for mischievous ends. I have my opinions and will voice them when it is appropriate however there are some on here who believe that if you say something often enough and with sufficient venom you will sway others to your beliefs. This, I’m sorry to say, is a delusion.

The man is master of his own fate, and deserves everything he gets IMO.

He craves adulation-have a read at the latest episode of my favourite bedtime story-'Life on a Shoogly Peg'-the Chairman's programme notes.

Respect is EARNED-he got plently when he splashed the cash, but since then he's made a bigger and bigger arse of himself.

Posts like yours almost always have a hidden agenda-maybe you're the Manager of his favourite Greggs-who knows-or maybe you stir the molten Fudgy Wudgy pot at GC! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-23 09:06:20
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 22 2007, 12:20 PM) [snapback]337039[/snapback]
Sorry MJ - lost me again!

I thought you were advocating the removal of JM?

Are you, actually, suggesting that he should remain in place unless relegation is looking like a certainty?

Hypermetropic - a good thing or a bad thing? maybe we could have a poll? smile.gif

I don't rate JM-I stated he should not go before the next transfer window is opening. I've learned never to say never, and have stated elsewhere that we don't know how much his style is cramped at Scapa, and that he may still have a successful career elsewhere.
mortonjag 2007-09-23 09:18:13 So NewTON pokes a bit of fun, and the rest of the board throngs to the support of our ex Mastermind champion.

I have heard contradiction after contradiction from JM over the closed season and in the last few weeks. He seems to specialise in stating the obvious when it comes to answering simple questions.

The fact is that he's just an ordinary guy from Castlemilk who was good at football-that, and he's a decent bloke whose hands are tied behind his back because he's 'too nice' and Shoogly has him where he wants him.

The guy's only doing his best.
mortonjag 2007-09-23 09:21:29
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 23 2007, 09:04 AM) [snapback]337749[/snapback]
You really are a sad pathetic old man, if you detest whats happening at the club so much then just put it in a letter or email to mr rae and then vote with your feet by staying away.

Oh and stop boring everyone on here !

Maybe it takes one to spot one. sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-23 09:23:30
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 23 2007, 09:14 AM) [snapback]337754[/snapback]
Saved me typing out the same sentence. sad.gif

Oh go on beermonkey-I KNOW you want to. wub.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-23 09:29:47
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Sep 23 2007, 09:20 AM) [snapback]337757[/snapback]
[b]see this remembering abuse through therapy malarkey, isn't that extremely controversial?[/b]

i'm not surprised mcinally got freaked out, i would as well. some things are not meant for general conversation. i've got no time for this intense feeling culture that seems to be so popular right now.

Extremely, extremely!
mortonjag 2007-09-23 09:33:40
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 23 2007, 09:24 AM) [snapback]337760[/snapback]
Pathetic

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mortonjag 2007-09-23 09:35:18
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 23 2007, 09:32 AM) [snapback]337764[/snapback]
Andy, about your option for a second year. Well you've been p!sh all season, in fact a total liability at times. We're going to pass on the new contract.

Aye but Jim, did I tell you I was abused as a child?

Pffftt please.

Possibly something in that Cawstic.
mortonjag 2007-09-23 09:37:14
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 23 2007, 09:31 AM) [snapback]337763[/snapback]
Not sure where everyone's getting the "you can't play for ten days after you've had concussion" rule.

It is applied in rugby, and even then it can be easily worked around by the club or the individual saying that they weren't concussed and their real injury was "insert another injury type here".

TonInDublin

Some of the best footballers of all time played half their careers 'concussed'!
mortonjag 2007-09-23 13:48:04
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 23 2007, 10:40 AM) [snapback]337809[/snapback]
That's not fair Nacho. Uninformed opinions are what this forum's all about.

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If Andy's owed 30 k, why does he 'not know' what happened to the case for compensation? He seems quite happy to surmise that the records are 'stuck away in a broom cupboard'.

Why the need for a proud man to discuss his 'abuse' with JM and MC when he's got a therapist, a supportive family, and membership of AA, and NA? It does sound like he sensed what was coming, and pulled out the sympathy card.

I think the nearest to the truth may be that the Club decided to let him go, and handled the issue in typically amateurish fashion. At least the story about the mobile 'phone call rings true, and presumably Derek McInnes can confirm that.

Mr Rae, it seems, wants to be 'hands on', calling all the shots, and milking publicity when it comes to his signings. It would appear that when the opposite prevails, he hasn't the balls to do it in a professional manner, and JM got the dirty work to do for him. IMO the transcript of the 'phone call sounds like Jim was issuing a well rehearsed statement prepared by the 'Maister'. If I'd been treated so dismissively by a man I'd previously respected, I'd have been puzzled and upset.
mortonjag 2007-09-23 14:29:51
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 23 2007, 02:09 PM) [snapback]337981[/snapback]
I share Jonaton's view. McLaren was not playing well for us and had not been for some time. He had a volatility that meant he risked getting sent off every match or having to be hooked before he was. His loan spell was good and he made a big impact but once he had a contract he just seemed to want to go through the motions. Add to that that he was not a team man and McInally was right to let him go.

As to the contractual position, if he has a solid claim, it would be in the courts by now. I would suggest that he probably has'nt heard anything from the players association and the league because they don't think he has a case. Why else would it have dragged on so long?

I wonder if anyone from the Daily Record asked the club or Jim McInally for their comments - or maybe that would just spoil a good story.

I'd suggest that if we DON'T hear something from a certain gentleman pretty soon, there may well be more to the story. I'd be surprised if the 'Ranger' would publish such a big splash without considering possible litigation.
mortonjag 2007-09-23 14:39:26 I've yet to see an emergency ambulance crew 'run'. Don't believe the s***e you see on the telly. Doctors and nurses in real hospitals don't 'sprint' to cardiac arrests. There's a common misconception about 'urgency', and people coming to take charge of situation where others are distressed have to be seen to be in control.

Far from thinking those guys did anything out of order yesterday, I was having a wee quiet laugh at how keen they were to get a share of the action the second time around!
mortonjag 2007-09-23 14:58:17 So it's being suggested he called the penalty correctly, but denied the Saints a good second penaty claim, and gave us an offside goal!

Quite generous I'd say+7/10 for goodwill.

He totally ignored the cynical play in the first half, failing to protect our players, and bottled out of a second yellow for one of their players in the last ten minutes.

For that I'd say -7/10 for crass incompetence.

I'm pretty certain there was a thread on P & B which rated Somers as the worst ref in Scottish football.

He doesn't even look very nice!
mortonjag 2007-09-23 15:18:24
QUOTE(stoned1874 @ Sep 22 2007, 06:50 PM) [snapback]337290[/snapback]
Very mature opinion as per usual, where is your alter ego MJ?

I'm right here darling-nice of you to care! wink.gif

I thoroughly enjoyed the match-great effort all round and credit to JM for getting the guys to harden up in the second half against a side who were very cynical.

The biggest plus point for me was the way Jamie's superb (who the fck is Nakamura) 'free' lifted him. He looked much more like the guy I remember at Alloa.

Sanny did a power of work up front, wee Shields was a terrier, and as usual, Kev ran his baws off.

Obviously it's easy to pick up on a few individual lapses, but what's the point in that? The boys turned it on for us, and deserved full credit.

My one disappointment-where's the old Cowshed-still far too quiet.
mortonjag 2007-09-23 15:22:32
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 23 2007, 03:19 PM) [snapback]338063[/snapback]
Sing yersel ya auld bustard. tongue.gif

If you've ever heard a bustard 'sing' you'd never have suggested that. I think of myself more as a lark.
mortonjag 2007-09-23 15:26:56 Same old story for me-so hard to produce a side with options because of crazy signing policy, but individually a good wee squad.

If the boys are 'up for it' expect anything, but FFS don't start talking about formations, tactics etc!
mortonjag 2007-09-23 15:29:02
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Sep 23 2007, 03:24 PM) [snapback]338066[/snapback]
Volunteer to come on the park at half time next home game and serenade us wub.gif

You must think I'm very brave.
mortonjag 2007-09-23 15:30:26
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Sep 23 2007, 09:00 AM) [snapback]337744[/snapback]
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sad.gif I called it 3-2-SO close!
mortonjag 2007-09-23 15:37:13
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 23 2007, 10:10 AM) [snapback]337780[/snapback]
[b]mortonjag struggling once again. [/b]

So what if 40 people or whatever agree with your topic. The numbers are so small as can be discounted. In an ideal world, yes this would be a good move BUT as we've gone over many many times it's not something even remotely likely to happen.

Rae splashes HIS cash, and therefore decides what to do with it. As a paying customer the only thing you can do is vote with your feet and P1SS OFF. I'm sure no one would miss you.

Yes, his strengths are not in running a football club, but he's a lot better than many others we've had in the past. Added to that we don't exactly have a lenghty list of millionnaire fans Qing up to make an offer.

Listen Professor, there was a 2-1 vote in favour of Shoogly getting somebody in to give him a well earned rest. The thread had F*CK ALL to do with what he's likely to do.

If you're arguing that the vote itself means nothing-fair enough, but given that you are apparently so muddle headed, I'd lay little store by any of your opinions.

mortonjag 2007-09-23 15:39:15
QUOTE(C B @ Sep 23 2007, 10:32 AM) [snapback]337803[/snapback]
Don't knock it ! It beats the sh!t out of "To Be Honest"

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mortonjag 2007-09-23 15:41:17
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 23 2007, 10:43 AM) [snapback]337811[/snapback]
It's un-necessary digs like that which endear you to the masses MJ rolleyes.gif wub.gif dry.gif

It's the boringly repetitive defence of the indefensible which spawns those 'uneccessary' digs darling.
mortonjag 2007-09-23 15:42:29
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 23 2007, 10:49 AM) [snapback]337817[/snapback]
MJ would never admit to making mistakes, he's always right you know. dry.gif

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mortonjag 2007-09-23 15:47:53
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Sep 23 2007, 03:14 PM) [snapback]338056[/snapback]
Only about 6"

Willow, as usual, lowers the tone. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-23 15:54:55
QUOTE(Lord Haw haw @ Sep 23 2007, 02:17 PM) [snapback]337987[/snapback]
How embarrassing you bunch of wine sluggers.Its just aswel you are British or you would have no NHS to save your livers.I would personally privatise the NHS,then when you drink you pay for your stupidity.I just worry that England will stop subsidising us and set us adrift in to the wilderness and you will all end up dying terrible deaths.

The present lot are making a damned good job without your input Hee Haw-before long you'll be paying to get those bloody hooves trimmed.
mortonjag 2007-09-23 16:01:16
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Sep 21 2007, 11:09 PM) [snapback]336897[/snapback]
I think that case of events is more common than folk think. My wife knows folk who have had that happen after contrasting test results.

If a couple won't do anything about it after the results of the test, then there's no point having it in the first place.

There's little point in quoting individual experiences-the fact is that the test, though far from perfect, is a good indicator of pobability-that's all it is.

If testing is abandoned, there will be an outcry from a percentage of woman who deliver Down's Syndrome babies. That's a fact-like it or not, and I've little doubt they could pursue successful litigation.

No woman is obliged to take the test. No woman is obliged to act on the result.
mortonjag 2007-09-23 16:04:55
QUOTE(Lord Haw haw @ Sep 22 2007, 09:32 PM) [snapback]337559[/snapback]
Just started reading a book about our Majesty.

Even though I have just started it, it has been interesting, book is: The Queen: A Biography of Elizabeth II.

She speaks about Scotland like she loves the place, treats it like a 2nd home.

The book moves me
. She is a hero of mine, am amazed by what she has gone through in life, what hardship she has had to put up with.

I would encourage most to go and buy it, makes for a really interesting read. I look forward to finishing it

Aye, Hee Haw, and the s*** comes oot the wrong hole.
mortonjag 2007-09-23 16:33:10
QUOTE(Lord Haw haw @ Sep 23 2007, 04:08 PM) [snapback]338095[/snapback]
Your just loving it as I am drawing attention away from your usual bile.

I wouldn't put it as strongly as that, I just wonder how long it will be before you get bored.
mortonjag 2007-09-23 16:36:30
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 23 2007, 04:02 PM) [snapback]338092[/snapback]
Pot, kettle and black are three words that spring to mind. rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2007-09-23 16:45:50
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 23 2007, 04:36 PM) [snapback]338117[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Sep 23 2007, 04:31 PM) [snapback]338112[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This has nothing to do with Peterhead that was a mistake I made. Mclaren is trying sell his book by tarnishing the club maybe some people are happy with that.

Come on if he was wronged by the club then he has a right to tell it, as for saying he is using it to sell his book, come on, who the f*** is interested in what he has got to say about Morton? no one, in fact if any thing Morton fans would refuse to buy the book so your point is utter crap, you have a dislike for the player and you will use any excuse to highlight it.

Yip I thought he was a great servant a great player and a credit to society, a bit of a hero in my eyes.

It certainly was NOT AM's fault that we blew promotion the season he arrived-he was a bloody inspiration, and if he'd come two or three games earlier history would have been re-written.

So he decided to write a book and gives the Ton a wee 'mensh'-ok his ghost has spun it against the club, but he hasn't exactly suggested Shoogly's a paedo who should have been subjected to an advanced disclosure before being allowed to dish out his sweeties on Match days.

There's no smoke without fire, they say.
mortonjag 2007-09-23 16:50:07
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 23 2007, 04:19 PM) [snapback]338100[/snapback]
Is there a Morton story in the Sport unsure.gif I could get away with buying it this week. rolleyes.gif

Something about a three in a bed frolic involving Shoogly, the chief Exec. and a moribund hamster called 'Wee baws' would be good story line.
mortonjag 2007-09-23 16:53:29
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 23 2007, 04:30 PM) [snapback]338110[/snapback]
This is the wee b*****d I'm talking about......

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mortonjag 2007-09-23 16:59:04
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 23 2007, 04:53 PM) [snapback]338131[/snapback]
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Guess you're a Telegraph man!
mortonjag 2007-09-23 17:02:23
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 23 2007, 04:53 PM) [snapback]338130[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Sep 23 2007, 04:44 PM) [snapback]338121[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Just for your record I don't dislike McLaren yes if he is owed money fair enough but there are legal avenue's he can go down. What I am trying to say is it is a pity he had to go public if it is not true I hope Morton come out and say so.

Ok, but he has already stated every time he tries to go down the legal avenue he hits a brick wall, maybe this is why he felt the need. All I'm saying here is people need to look beyond Morton FC, at the end of the day he has credited the fans and as far as I'm concerned thats enough for me, I could go through the owners and managers of Morton FC since I started supporting them but whats the point, they or very few are interested anymore, me I'm still there, like you, we need to stop being apologists for the present Morton FC boards, we are the past the present and the future.

Who gave you permission to suggest that?
mortonjag 2007-09-23 17:05:30
QUOTE(CraigoTON @ Sep 23 2007, 05:00 PM) [snapback]338140[/snapback]
you need one of these

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mortonjag 2007-09-23 17:12:26
QUOTE(Lord Haw haw @ Sep 23 2007, 04:01 PM) [snapback]338090[/snapback]
Is all that you can do, lower yourself to swear words?

Granted a typo, but how does that make one a w*nker? I think its time I had words with a few friends of mine, they are high up in the Military. You need to learn why the Queen is the Queen.

Rule Britannia

It's often been said that those types are into bestiality hee haw-you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself-sacrificing your ass for a bunch of carrots and a faded red white and blue rosette.
mortonjag 2007-09-23 17:15:19
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Sep 23 2007, 05:12 PM) [snapback]338156[/snapback]
I hope you're being sarcastic, as I can't believe you're serious. Andy always looked after No 1. The "I'd had no disciplinary problems at Morton and had played well that season." quote just about sums him up.

What a disgrace-did he refuse to indulge in the ritual daily arse kissing?
mortonjag 2007-09-23 17:19:39
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 23 2007, 05:06 PM) [snapback]338149[/snapback]
the past 33 years out of the 38 I have spent following this club.

We have short memories as well as short sightedness, ffs we will still be there when most could not give a toss, it's obvious Andy has fond memories of us, the real Morton FC, the fans, we supported him as player and rightly so, I think its right to support him as a person for all he has been though in his life.

Correct Sir!

But WHO gave you permission to state it, when it flies in the face of perceived wisdom of the Holy Trinity-

Our father wh. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-23 17:23:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 23 2007, 05:19 PM) [snapback]338160[/snapback]
im sorry but even in the article mclaren said he thought he would spend the rest of the career at the club and get us to the spl. to me that is someone who loves the club and not someone who is having a go at it.

he feels he's been treated unfairly, and maybe rightly so.

[b]the same people that complain about JM and dougie on here in every thread are the same people saying how dare he say anything bad about them.[/b]

he said he loved the fans. he has a family to feed so if he's owed money he's entitled to say so and even more so he's entitled to put it in his book.

the " how dare you " attitude of some people about this book is ridiculous, of course he's going to put interesting stuff in it, i mean its already got all of us talking about it and some of us contemplating buying his book. these would be the same people who'd complain if stuff like this wasnt in the book and call it boring.

give the guy a break and let him make some money, after all he's got a career threatening injury so he may need it.

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mortonjag 2007-09-23 17:29:08
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 23 2007, 05:17 PM) [snapback]338159[/snapback]
Post his record and I assure you there will be heroes within past Morton teams with far worse records than Andy's, If you didn't already know a lot of Andy's booking was down to his reputation with referees and totally undeserved and if the majority of Morton fans don't have amnisure they will agree.

Exactly-the last game of the season at Forfar was a perfect example-stroll in the park for the ref-nothing to play for-silly wee lassie of an assistant-and Andy's name's in the book for mild retaliation-he hadn't even been warned, and was NOT the villain of the piece!
mortonjag 2007-09-23 17:31:22
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 23 2007, 05:28 PM) [snapback]338165[/snapback]
question? tongue.gif

Name them! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-23 18:03:16
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 23 2007, 05:38 PM) [snapback]338169[/snapback]
laugh.gif i cant be bothered.

im not saying its everyone who complains about JM and dougie thats saying it.

i complain about them and im for andy mclaren in this situation. but the people who are against him are people who complain about JM and dougie in every single thread.

i cant even remember which side of the argument youre on, im too busy living up the limelight of midtons saying superb post to me laugh.gif

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Well I'm disappointed if the Shoogly critics see Andy as the only player in this-three sides to every story-his, hers, and the truth. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-23 18:13:21
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 23 2007, 06:05 PM) [snapback]338182[/snapback]
We're back on the pot, kettle, black argument again then ?

Listen ya drunken ape-stop your pathetic wee one line gibbers and produce some fact.

I'm pretty self opinionated, but firstly I DO state that I'm voicing opinion, and secondly, I defy you to give one example of my being 'muddle headed'.

As for Professor Piehole-he's brilliant at starting off with false premises and arguing his way deeper and deeper into his own mince.
mortonjag 2007-09-23 18:18:42
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Sep 23 2007, 06:12 PM) [snapback]338185[/snapback]
Agree with the above: we are a very fit side.

Jamie was ok before his goal and visibly buoyed afterwards: it was like lead weights had been taken off his ankles!

Spot on-it's easy to forget he's just a young lad trying to live up to huge expectations, and there are no 'old heads' in the side' to keep him right.

More's the pity.
mortonjag 2007-09-23 18:22:46
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Sep 23 2007, 05:38 PM) [snapback]338170[/snapback]
Brave? I think you're crazy to address the mods as you do! My hero.... rolleyes.gif

Surely a few verses of Barry Manilow or something similar will get the cowshed it's voice back laugh.gif

The Mods are nice guys-I don't mean to upset them.

Where would we be without them?

They just have to behave properly-as I always do. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-23 18:35:39
QUOTE(e_f @ Sep 23 2007, 06:23 PM) [snapback]338189[/snapback]
Is there not a problem just now with the SPFA not getting the backing from their parent body the GMB? This might have some bearing in his case if his union isn't getting funding.

I'll be extremely surprised if we don't have some kind of statement from Mr Rae within the next day or so-he always heavily refutes critical allegations, especially when he's got a valid point.

I'd go as far as to suggest that silence on this from our Chairman would add credibility to AM's version of events.
mortonjag 2007-09-23 18:50:57
QUOTE(lush @ Sep 23 2007, 06:34 PM) [snapback]338191[/snapback]
Is that for real? unsure.gif ohmy.gif

Todays Sunday Mail-headed 'Hard to swally'! Full page on it.
mortonjag 2007-09-23 18:55:50
QUOTE(Lord Haw haw @ Sep 23 2007, 06:44 PM) [snapback]338198[/snapback]
Ok, but did you know that the Health Service is a lot better off now you have retired.

Am sure you treated my father a few years back, it must have been you cos the Doc was a pompus old git

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It was medicine I practised, not veterinary surgery Hee Haw.

Did yer faither snuff it?

Our thoughts would have been with the family.
mortonjag 2007-09-23 18:56:44
QUOTE(lush @ Sep 23 2007, 06:54 PM) [snapback]338211[/snapback]
Is that right Colkitto, sorry Hee Haw?

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mortonjag 2007-09-23 18:59:17
QUOTE(lush @ Sep 23 2007, 06:57 PM) [snapback]338217[/snapback]
No, i am not.

He seems to make lots of mistakes, that ass!
mortonjag 2007-09-23 19:04:27
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 23 2007, 06:51 PM) [snapback]338205[/snapback]
Produce some fact on what ?, that your a sad pathetic old man with nothing better to do than wage a tedious tiresome repetitive one man vendetta againt mr rae ?

I dont need to produce fact on that, anyone with eyes and a brain can see it.

Really-then we must commiserate with your anencephalic blindness.
mortonjag 2007-09-23 19:07:15
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 23 2007, 07:02 PM) [snapback]338221[/snapback]
What a let down.

When I saw the thread title I'd hoped that she'd kicked the bucket.

Poor show, Hee Haw, getting our hopes up.

[b]GFTQ[/b]

Suspect he's not that desperate.
mortonjag 2007-09-23 19:08:31
QUOTE(lush @ Sep 23 2007, 07:02 PM) [snapback]338222[/snapback]
Well, Colkitto has got to reverse all his beliefs when he is dressing up as Hee Haw. Bound to slip up now and again.

Oh indeed, even asses must have their needs satisfied.
mortonjag 2007-09-23 19:10:19
QUOTE(Lord Haw haw @ Sep 23 2007, 07:02 PM) [snapback]338223[/snapback]
[b]No, he is still alive today[/b].

Just out of interest, how many years did you study medicine? Did you enjoy getting paid big bucks by the state, I wonder if you would be so well off today if England left Scotland to it away back in 1905 when the last major uprising was. I wonder if Scotland could afford a NHS if it was independant, given its current state of affairs.

I am so proud of being part of Britain and feel like most do, undebted to the people of England for supporting us and keeping our head above the poverty line.

Still giving the children a good ride is he?
mortonjag 2007-09-24 05:07:35
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 23 2007, 07:09 PM) [snapback]338230[/snapback]
Oh dear !!! dry.gif

No doubt the moronjag disciples will chuckle at that, but it's just another example of how sad & pathetic you are.

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mortonjag 2007-09-24 05:24:06
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 23 2007, 07:48 PM) [snapback]338241[/snapback]
Oh my god. How many posts have I stated the reasons for these polls being useless. AND YET still, we see some people clutching at straws trying to claim they have some kind of credibility.

They have no credibility. If you want to prove a point through polling you'd need to actually commission a polling company to do it, as quite simply you could prove anything with these anonymous polls on messageboards.

We come back to the real reason for the poll, mortonjag's lame attempt to undermine Rae and the money he's put into the club, HIS MONEY, not mortonjag's.

Of 56 posters who voted, over 2/3 believe that Mr Rae should hand over the reins at Morton. Given that I believe that 'greenockmorton.net' is the 'meeting place' for the most diehard Morton fans, I am confident that the results of the poll are SIGNIFICANT.

You claim they have no credibility-well Professor, you may believe exactly what you please-you can try to make everything fit into place in your little rose garden 'til you're blue in the face, but facts are chiels that winna ding.

As with others who have gone down this path with me, you are now 'flogging a dead horse' with every post, with the inevitable appendage of a blatant lie about my motives. Soon you will take that triumphant lemming leap by pushing your little huff button, while boasting to your imaginary friends how easy it is to deal with nasty mortonjag.

Have a nice day packing the Fudgy Wudgys.
mortonjag 2007-09-24 05:41:37 I'd love Simon to come.

He won't. sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-24 05:49:16
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 23 2007, 09:41 AM) [snapback]337769[/snapback]
Time for your brain pills again. blink.gif

unsure.gif I'm sure you'll be correct Molis Adrianus, but I can't remember him being forced to make one significant save.
mortonjag 2007-09-24 06:22:03 CLAYMORE C*CK hasn't posted for ten days he's either dead or Hee Haw! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-24 06:27:45
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 23 2007, 07:55 AM) [snapback]337720[/snapback]
Vikington seems to bite regularly on the bait supplied by our new Troll in residence.

Could these "conversations" be the sound of one hand clapping? unsure.gif

Why is CLAYMORE c*** not involved-I'm beginning to worry about my good friend if he is not indeed Hee Haw!
mortonjag 2007-09-24 06:32:32
QUOTE(eehbahton @ Sep 22 2007, 10:13 PM) [snapback]337589[/snapback]
We are taking our ladies up to Glasgow for Scotland v Ukraine. They will shop(or probably drink!) while we are at the game. In the evening we want to go for a meal before hitting the bars. Hotel is near Byres Road and we would appreciate any recommendations.

Unbelievable choice in Glasgow's West End. If you enjoy Thai cuisine, or woud like to experience it at its best I recommend-


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mortonjag 2007-09-24 06:45:30
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 22 2007, 12:33 PM) [snapback]337047[/snapback]
Jesus no Davie !

I'm hoping you're saying that tongue in cheek, but you can't be sure sometimes.

For the record, I have NO problems with anyone's chosen sexuality. Knock yourselves out.

TonInDublin

And tonight Matthew, I'm going to be



A paedophile.
mortonjag 2007-09-24 06:54:11
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 23 2007, 04:00 PM) [snapback]338089[/snapback]
Mortonjag lives in Glasgow, perhaps this neighbour is a lady of the night and he comes round to visit and infact all the screaming is fake? wink.gif

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I think LCM's just been indulging his fantasy for our benefit, though his account is certainly droll. For the record, I live in a respectable part of the city, where those ladies make home visits, and even the tea if you treat them nicely!.
mortonjag 2007-09-24 06:59:57
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Sep 23 2007, 08:34 PM) [snapback]338266[/snapback]
Awh sad.gif

Name us some of the finer physical specimens then mj wink.gif

That's a good point-its hard to think of any Adonis among that motley bunch of whistle blowers. Apparently Colin Hardie was quite handsome in his youth.
mortonjag 2007-09-24 07:28:24 Summing up, Livingston showed that having good enterprising wingers who can fire good crosses across their opponents' goal are worth their weight in gold. The two Livi wingers, Robert Snodgrass and Dorrans were indeed outstanding throughout the match, giving the Moton defence a torrid afternoon. The two wingers were rewarded with two goals each.




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Time to open that golden casket Shoogly?
mortonjag 2007-09-24 08:05:05
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Sep 24 2007, 07:46 AM) [snapback]338355[/snapback]
Been seething with anger since reading that muck yesterday.

I'll hold back a little...but let's just say Andy McLaren is a reprobate who thinks he's better than he is, and I can't believe there's the same fools sticking up for him on here as were fooled by his badgekissing while with us.

Rips us apart in the highest selling scottish sunday national, then adds at the end "But the fans are great and I'm happy for them" ..... oh andy! Oh andy you're brilliant!

Fck off!

I still chuckle at those on here who were criticising Chris Templeman, saying he was a disgrace, and stating that Andy McLaren was a perfect role model for kids. Obv on whatever he was on.

Me, me, me, attention seeking tosspot poor me w**k. Your careers over, now piss off.

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Judging by that piece Donga, the Sunday Mail is well above your level of gutter journalism!
mortonjag 2007-09-24 09:39:38
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 24 2007, 08:51 AM) [snapback]338364[/snapback]
Well firstly, his grammar is appalling - "having good wingers" doesn't act as a subject for "are worth their weight in gold". A total non sequitur. And Snodgrass didn't score 2 goals.

It's pretty obvious that Shoogly isn't the brightest when it comes to composition, but the point is that he's lecturing on the value of 'wingers', yet we didn't target any in the closed season!
mortonjag 2007-09-24 09:42:08
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Sep 24 2007, 08:53 AM) [snapback]338366[/snapback]
[b]I'm not getting into trading insults[/b] and ruining another thread that you have infected.

LIAR!
mortonjag 2007-09-24 09:48:46
QUOTE(Muz @ Sep 24 2007, 09:19 AM) [snapback]338374[/snapback]
I'd like to point out that I wasnt fooled by the badgekissing, I just liked him and was entertained by him when he played for us.

I do think he had to leave, and I too wasnt impressed by his treatment of Templeman.

I still think that there's probably something in the story of him being owed money though, to be honest it wouldnt surprise me if Morton owed him money.

[b]Just to point out that I am not one of the "fools" that my friend refers to above![/b] rolleyes.gif

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Nor am I Muz, but your 'friend' is foolish enough to suggest that McLaren was 'on' something, when playing for us, describing him as a 'reprobate'!

Stupidity of that nature is usually indicative of someone who has to put others down to gain attention.
mortonjag 2007-09-24 09:53:31
QUOTE(mortongreenock @ Sep 24 2007, 09:21 AM) [snapback]338375[/snapback]
m8 you need to get out a little bit mare ya sad boring old c*** smile.gif

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Spill the beans-what age is CLAYMORE C*CK!
mortonjag 2007-09-24 16:30:31
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 24 2007, 12:56 PM) [snapback]338446[/snapback]
Oh dear, still not quite 'got it' 'have you'?

You're missing 'the point'. People have to 'volunteer responses' therefore making the results worth a lot less. Due to the 'small numbers' involved and 'leading questions' asked, you 'could prove' just about anything. Added to that people can have as many aliases as they want and get 'a vote each', people could try and 'prove anything'.

A few people have stated, 'including me', they have 'no interest' in voting in such petty and 'meaningless polls', so there is no way you could say the poll represents a 'consensus' of Ton fans.

What you could say, is that of the small number of people who chose to vote; 2/3 (or whatever it is) agree with the 'motivations' of the 'pollster' and would prefer one of the limited choices rather than the others available to them in this poll.

Added to that, the chioces in the polls are not something that could 'become a reality', they are just a 'general wondering' of a 'petty old man', who spends to much time on 'the internet' and suffers from a strange over use of 'inverted commas' and 'smilies'.

Professor Piehole, I'm not really interested in excerpts from the lecture notes of a 22 year old child.
I might be tempted to call you a patronising little c*nt, given the years of clinical research I've been involved in, where statistics are applied to stringent rules.

A simple poll on an unofficial football forum suggests strongly that the majority of voters believe the Chairman should step aside.

Take from that what you will-I have.
mortonjag 2007-09-24 16:40:20
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 24 2007, 01:18 PM) [snapback]338456[/snapback]
Surely after only taking a point at home to fellow mid-table strugglers St Johnstone; the boo boys would be out in force again this week to call for McInally's head on a plate.

I mean we only had 4 injuries this week, and only a further 3 picked up during the match. Added to that former SPL side Dunfermline lost again, I mean they didn't win a trophy last season so can't be expected to win every game. Morton, on the other hand, won the 2nd division last season (by luck right enough) so should definately be winning every week.

Added to that, Hasbeen 'keeper Alan Main only made a few great saves, I mean we really should be ratting in goals for fun against a guy like this.

And... we're still only 6th in the table level with St Johnstone and ahead of Dunfermline!

Obviously they aren't quite creative enough to suggest these points this week. Just looking for a bit of consistency from the jumped up negativity boys, but seems they've run out of ammo.

Uch well, maybe we'll get beat at high flyers Dundee and they'll be able to get a few more moans in next week.

Oh Professor Piehole (or should that be Procrustes), I salute your consistency. You foist your incisive knowledge of statistics on us in one thread, and cite a solitary good performance in an attempt to prove something else! wub.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-24 16:47:00
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Sep 24 2007, 02:32 PM) [snapback]338518[/snapback]
more p1sh

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I wouldn't be that hard on him- after all he saved us from extinction-at least I'm sure I heard that somewhere.
mortonjag 2007-09-24 16:52:41
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Sep 24 2007, 10:32 AM) [snapback]338396[/snapback]
I never suggested McLaren was on anything when he played with us.

I'm not stupid. I don't put people down.

A fool is someone who has been fooled.

Oh I think you did, however unintentionally.

A fool is a fool.

All of us have been 'fooled' at some time in our lives. sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-24 17:02:52
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 24 2007, 12:44 PM) [snapback]338440[/snapback]
Andy's time with Morton was up. He was not contributing on or off the park and, from my perspective, hs influence had become negative. I have no worries that it was not the right time for him to go and that Jim McInally made the right decision. I am less impressed with firing someone on the telephone - thats something which should be done face to face.

I also wonder about his claim to be owed money. As I have previously said, if Morton broke some contractual obligation to him, why are the Players Union and/or the League not enforcing it? I think the reality is that he probably has no legal grounds and is trying to make a moral case.

Regardless of the various shades of opinion about the present regime, I have not heard of any issues concerning not paying the club's debts as they become due and don't think that is a tag that can be pinned on any of DDFR's companies.

I agree-Rae gives McInally ALL the dirty work to do as his paid servant, but when it comes to promotion celebrations, signings, and generally lapping up the rapidly dwindling adulation, he's first pig in the swill.

I sympathise strongly with JM on this-NO WAY did HE decide to 'phone AM out of the blue, and treated him so disdainfully. Jim is not like that-plain and simple, but sadly he is God's mouthpiece, and as the Bible says, 'You can't serve two masters'.
mortonjag 2007-09-24 17:11:40
QUOTE(Edinton @ Sep 24 2007, 01:56 PM) [snapback]338486[/snapback]
Response from the club...

http://www.gmfc.net/club-news/news-view.asp?id=227
Incidentally, good to see we waited for both sides of the story before commenting rolleyes.gif

I'd love to see a copy of that 'mutual agreement' which presumably both parties signed!

If it does not exist, the statement from GMFC is pretty worthless IMO.
mortonjag 2007-09-24 17:12:29
QUOTE(Cartoon Head @ Sep 24 2007, 02:00 PM) [snapback]338489[/snapback]
Oh yes, thats what they would like. Under the carpet with this one.

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mortonjag 2007-09-24 17:14:46
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 24 2007, 02:17 PM) [snapback]338504[/snapback]
You would be better supporting Celtic. Their fans are right into conspiracies!

Grow up man! This is a guy who undeniably has problems and still has it would appear. He's trying to sell a book. Why are you so keen to believe him rather than the club? Why do you think that if he had a valid claim he would not be pushing it? Why do you think the SPFA are not following it up? The answer is that the club has no case to answer!

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Time will tell!
mortonjag 2007-09-24 17:22:56 So it's the might of a National newsaper with all its awareness of litigation risks versus wee Shoogly and his version of the story. I normally side with the underdog, but when it comes to censorship, I'd suggest that the latter is a past master of 'sweeping all before him'.

As I've said, if an agreement was made, even the most amateurish club would have ensured signatures from both parties.

No smoke without fire-the club statement proves nothing, but was TOTALLY predictable-as I indicated yesterday.
mortonjag 2007-09-24 17:38:55
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 24 2007, 05:28 PM) [snapback]338611[/snapback]
No it's not. In this case the national newspaper has only reported what McLaren has told them and so if there is a risk, its Andy's, not the Daily Ranger.

You just love any morsel which might support your anti DDFR stance, n'est ce pas?

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The paper has NOT 'only reported what McLaren has told them'. It has chosen to make mega bucks by serialising a book co-written by AM and one of its employees.

As I've suggested, let's see a copy of that 'amicable, mutual agreement'. Surely Mr Rae wouldn't have trusted the handshake of a 'reprobate, jakey, and drunk'! Not an experienced businessman-SURELY not! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-24 17:44:01
QUOTE(Lord Haw haw @ Sep 24 2007, 12:48 PM) [snapback]338442[/snapback]
I am indeed a Morton supporter. You will find me in the cowshed most home games

....chewin' the f*ckin cud ya Donkey.
mortonjag 2007-09-24 17:45:02
QUOTE(lush @ Sep 24 2007, 02:54 PM) [snapback]338531[/snapback]
Your not trying to tell us its MORTONJAG!!! ohmy.gif

WOOD EYE?
mortonjag 2007-09-24 17:47:28
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 24 2007, 04:51 PM) [snapback]338590[/snapback]
For the record, can I just say, the above quote written by Lord Haw Haw, was not written by me.

They did not come from my PC.

I did not type those words........END OF STORY !

CLAYMORE C*CK has an accomplice!
mortonjag 2007-09-24 19:58:11
QUOTE(Lord Haw haw @ Sep 24 2007, 04:11 PM) [snapback]338580[/snapback]
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I won't be put off with these accusations.

Who will I be next week ? RtB ? MidTon ? Bryan ? Tom McB ? EdinTon ? MortonJag ? Let your imaginations run wild folks..... tongue.gif

Rule Britania
and
God Save Queen Elizabeth II

TONTASTIC-who'd ever have guessed! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-24 20:01:27
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 24 2007, 10:19 AM) [snapback]338390[/snapback]
Ah you can't get away from the forum long enough to make food so go for the meals on wheels option? wink.gif

Thinking more along the lines of rimmers on zimmers
mortonjag 2007-09-24 20:05:04
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 24 2007, 08:02 PM) [snapback]338659[/snapback]
oh dear, you couldn't help yourself sad.gif


The little chappie had it coming!

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and did the white-coat brigade manage to find out what was wrong with you?
so what statistic did you use to demonstrate that the poll result was SIGNIFICANT?
and that wasn't the question rolleyes.gif



laugh.gif so what was the question Trumpet?
mortonjag 2007-09-24 20:08:59 The club is simply making allegations-exactly what AM has done.

Everything seems to hinge on this 'amicable and mutual agreement'. If the club has nothing in writing to back up those allegations, it becomes a case of one word against another.
mortonjag 2007-09-24 20:17:03
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 24 2007, 06:32 PM) [snapback]338631[/snapback]
Not only are you questioning the reputation of Morton with that statement, but also that of the SPFA and SFL who sought clarification and were happy with what they received. This is a closed case, which McLaren (and Guidi) re-opened in the hope of shifting a few more books of the shelf...how cyincal the world has become. rolleyes.gif wink.gif

We were therefore surprised when, having left by mutual agreement, we received notification in June 2006 from the Scottish Football League that Andy intended to pursue a claim against the Club. At that time, we wrote to both the SFL and the Scottish Professional Footballers Association outlining the circumstances as we understood them, and advising that we would be happy to co-operate in any way required. Copies of all correspondence were sent to Andy, and no further communication regarding the matter has since been received from either Andy, the SFL or the SPFA

Closed case my arse-the club simply says the same as AM-the thing has not been dealt with.

When you state I'm 'questioning the reputation of Morton', I wonder what you mean.
mortonjag 2007-09-24 20:27:06
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 24 2007, 08:16 PM) [snapback]338666[/snapback]
Give it a rest MJ, there is simply no case to answer otherwise the SPFA would have been on our backs pretty sharp. Unless you're saying they're part of this horrendous conspiracy...? rolleyes.gif

If the SPFA received communications from both parties, and the case has been 'closed' why are both parties in agreement that they have 'heard nothing'.

That is NOT the way cases are 'closed' as I'm sure you are aware.

Everything that's been written about this whole issue is legally hearsay, though I'm not surprised that the club has see fit to defend itself on that basis.

They could have written, 'We have a signed agreement terminating AM's contact, and written confirmation from the SPFA that we have no case to answer'. Why have they not gone down that road?
mortonjag 2007-09-24 20:31:49
QUOTE(TKMorton @ Sep 24 2007, 08:27 PM) [snapback]338670[/snapback]
i have refrained from getting involved in this thread as probably many have up until now.

Honestly MJ, you cant seriously think that a poll on here with 57 votes casts gives a true reflection of the feelings of all morton fans. 57 out of 2500 people. not bad. of them how many are Morton fans, all 57? you know that for sure?

As much as I am not a major fanatic of Mr Raes, my memory is still clear on what has happened in the past regarding changes at board room level and I am not keen on a repeat. For the first time in too many years we are back in the 1st division, financially secure and putting in a good challenge. the last thing I would want to do was too rock the boat too early. We could do with better in every postion, but we havent got it.. we are morton, back in the first....

so lets sack (or whatever you want to do with) JM and DR.................. blink.gif I just do not see the sense in it personally. Old scars are still healing.

I have never suggested that we 'sack' Mr Rae-how could we? That was the WHOLE point-I DON'T want rid of him-simply that he delegate the running of the club to a competent person.
mortonjag 2007-09-25 04:54:07
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Sep 24 2007, 10:40 PM) [snapback]338711[/snapback]
Do you seriously think the Club would make a public statement like this and not be able to back it up? I think your patent dislike of the Raes is souring your judgement MJ.

I have already said what I think.
mortonjag 2007-09-25 04:56:35
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Sep 24 2007, 10:42 PM) [snapback]338714[/snapback]
Because it's none of our business?

If it's 'none of our business' and the club sits comfortable in the knowledge of written proof, why bother with the statement on GMFC-a statement, which, as I've said PROVES nothing.
mortonjag 2007-09-25 05:00:28
QUOTE(Tinton @ Sep 25 2007, 02:14 AM) [snapback]338730[/snapback]
Two things strike me about Andy’s claim. Firstly if he has a case why has he not pursued it? He could have pressed the SFL and/or the SPFA for action or taken legal action through the courts or at a tribunal. He has done none of these. Secondly he has a book to sell and when a celebrity wants to sell their life story it usually has to have a wee bit of scandal in it to get publicity and to whet the public appetite.

What the club has done is all that is required of them; state their case in a polite and dignified manner. It is ludicrous (not to say mischievous) to suggest that there has to be documentary of evidence placed in the public domain to refute this claim.

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A year or so ago those words were used to describe about ANY criticism of 'The Shoogly Show'! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-25 05:06:07
QUOTE(SramTon @ Sep 24 2007, 09:02 PM) [snapback]338684[/snapback]
i'm afraid the club's statement is more telling for what it doesn't say than what it does.

at no point does the club's statement actually deny the existence of the option.

this is absolutely central to the whole issue and to make no reference to it simply cannot have been an oversight.

the only objective conclusion that can be reached is that there was an option in favour of mclaren.

any suggestion that mclaren would simply walk away is naive in the extreme. how long did we have to wait whilst he battled with dundee utd?

remember utd were offering him a settlement and he was already assured of a contract with us, yet he clung on for all he could get.

does anyone really believe he'd have walked away from morton for nothing if he was due anything contractually?

the fact nothing has happened for over a year doesn't mean anything. maybe andy was in no rush to sort things - it would be one less story for his book if morton had settled up. how recently did archdeacon's claim finally reach its end?

i'm no club basher, and i'm certainly not a mclaren sympathiser: i don't think its any co-incidence he did enough in his last season to make sure he reached 20 games and didn't kick a ball thereafter, but in the quest for the truth morton's statement is just a mirror-trick.

Ludicrous, not to say mischievous Sir-do you call yourself a Morton supporter?
mortonjag 2007-09-25 05:18:37
QUOTE(TKMorton @ Sep 24 2007, 08:42 PM) [snapback]338675[/snapback]
sack, move to the back, delegation. however its described it is still a boot in the baws for auld mr rae should it happen and do you think that mr rae would be quite happy to sit back and delegate? i doubt it, it would be more of a nudge towards the door,

It is worrying that its being mentioned that the shed could turn on mr rae. I personally would just not understand why to take such a risk.

So you're scared the poor old codger would run off in the huff, call in his loan, and leave us up sh*t creek wth no paddle.

NO WAY.

We are NOT now in a post Scott situation-we are a potentially profitable 1st Division club.

I wonder if you've read the whole thread-I want Shoogly to EMPLOY somebody so that he can sit back and enjoy the rest of his time at Cappielow. It could be made WIDELY KNOWN that he was ultimately only an employee, who would be sacked if he didn't bring home the bacon-for goodness sake, he could even be made to wear a Fudgy Wudgy badge on his pin striped suit, in return for a guarantee from the Board that he was in charge of the day to day running of the wee club.
mortonjag 2007-09-25 05:29:54
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 25 2007, 12:05 AM) [snapback]338725[/snapback]
I could blame the Ref in part for the farce surrounding the Gardyne incident but Alex Walker was out cold and I thought the reaction times of all concerned was appalling. There has been a severe clash of heads and the boy is lying completely inert - I would have thought that warranted a bit of urgency. Even the club doctor seemed confused about what to do. The physio took time to appear which I assume was because he was dealing with Keenan and Gardyne.

Maybe MJ can cast a bit more light on this? Does a head knock like that warrant a speedy response or would it not make much difference? Don't know as I am just a simple accountant!

It's obvious that should Alex ultimately have needed neurosurgery, or some other urgent procedure, the quicker he was transported to Hospital the better-that's in an ideal world of course. That decision would have been made by the club doctor, who was with Alex FAR quicker than an emergency ambulance turns out to a heart attack. Although there was a wee bit of fluster on Saturday, I never thought for a moment that the situation was 'out of hand'.
mortonjag 2007-09-25 05:33:29
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 24 2007, 05:58 PM) [snapback]338623[/snapback]
The good catch in the first half when the the ball was going in the bottom corner.

AH-ONE-must have coincided with a 'senior moment'!
mortonjag 2007-09-25 05:36:55
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 24 2007, 06:38 PM) [snapback]338633[/snapback]
Well that's the kind of tedious threads we have to put up with after a bad result, but they seem satisfied to a point after one good performance.

Just goes to show that the team should be judged over the whole season, we will get good results and bad results, but no doubt after we lose a game we'll see all the crap again.

Although - I suppose Deego did try it on with his '6 players out of position' p1sh on Saturday.

Hey Prof- I go to games to be entertained. Saturday was good fun. If that was JM's fault-FULL MARKS TO JM FOR SATURDAY'S PREFORMANCE.
mortonjag 2007-09-25 05:40:31
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 24 2007, 09:12 PM) [snapback]338689[/snapback]
Name calling, now now.

Just making a point that people go way over the top after a bad result or two. However it only takes one decent performance and suddenly it's all calmed down a bit.

However, if we had lost that penalty near the end and got beat on Sat - I don't for one minute think that it would have 'calmed down' on here. I reckon that would have been just the ammo that the sack the manager brigade would have lapped up.

Now, I'm not saying there was much good about the Livvy performance but the ridiculous over reaction on here last week was well over the top. Guys have to look at the big picture and not just jump in with a 'sack the manager' after 6 games.

Correct piehole, and it started three years ago.
mortonjag 2007-09-25 05:45:56
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 24 2007, 11:06 PM) [snapback]338720[/snapback]
I do think you go too far in your almost incessant criticism of Dougie Rae Mortonjag but I buy a programme every home game and Rae's column is always filled with inaccuracies and ill advised comments on our teams / players performances in matches.

On Bobby Linn he says: "Next up on the scorers list was Bobby Linn, by the manner that he took his goal, gave a glimmer of hope that he may be recovering his form, form which led the Gaffer to want Bobby as a member of his playing squad. Welcome back Bobby!!" Some people will see this is a positive but I see it as a an unnecessary critique of his form up until now when he has never really been give a proper run in the side.

Similarly he says of Jamie Stevenson, "On Tuesday evening Jamie found something that everyone thought he had lost for ever, his ability to take on and run at an opposing defence" Not untrue but in my opinion not exactly an opinion the chairman should be expressing in programme notes.

He says MacGregor has been with Morton 5+ years. Try 8 years Dougie, only broken up by one summer in which all players were released. He then goes onto moan about the Challenge cup games being played the same night as Champions League ties. A fair point but he then asks why they arent played the week after when there are no Champions League games. Maybe because the CIS matches are getting played that midweek.

Obviously, the inaccuracies aren't a big deal but his criticism of players performances really annoy me. I can't rmember exactly what he said but he made some really out of order comments about Chris Templeman a while back. He shouldn't be making those comments publicly in my opinon. He also opens his mouth without thinking a lot of the time - the incident slagging off one of the newspapers lack of a match report springs to mind.

Mind you in saying all of that it does make the Dougie Rae double page spread essential reading laugh.gif

laugh.gif The monkey reads it to me as a bedtime story-he seems to have a better grasp of Shoogly's style than I have.

BTW is EVERYBODY going to body swerve the point about wingers?
mortonjag 2007-09-25 06:11:59 The Herald-


Morton say McLaren left amicably
WILLIAM DICK September 25 2007

Morton officials have dismissed claims that they owe their former player Andy McLaren £30,000 in unpaid wages.

The former Kilmarnock and Dundee United winger alleges in a new book that the Greenock club told him to leave in May last year fearing problems in his personal life were poised to resurface.

McLaren, 34, has fought a long-running battle against alcohol and drug addiction and claims he was released by Morton two days after confiding in manager Jim McInally over several private issues.
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The player contacted the Scottish Professional Footballers Association seeking legal advice and Morton were advised of his intention to pursue a claim.

However, the Greenock club insist they offered to cooperate in any inquiry and claim they have heard nothing from McLaren or his representatives for more than a year.

A statement posted on the club's website said: "His Andy's comments have caused some disbelief amongst those at Cappielow. At the beginning of May 2006, Andy met with our management team and informed them of some personal problems he was, and had been, encountering. The club has a policy of arranging for qualified, independent help for players when required, and this was done.

"Over the next couple of weeks, it became apparent that the problems Andy was experiencing were becoming more complex and it was agreed, very amicably, between the management team and the player that he would bow out' at the end of season 2005-2006.

"We were therefore surprised when, having left by mutual agreement, we received notification in June 2006 from the Scottish Football League that Andy intended to pursue a claim against the club.

"At that time we wrote to both the SFL and the Scottish Professional Footballers Association outlining the circumstances as we understood them, and advising that we would be happy to cooperate in any way required.

"Copies of all correspondence were sent to Andy and no further communication regarding the matter has since been received from either Andy, the SFL or the SPFA.

"We hope that Andy has been able to further address the problems that he has continued to face over the years and our best wishes remain with him for the future."

In his book Tormented, serialised by a Sunday tabloid, McLaren said: "As far as I'm concerned I'm still owed £30,000."

The player tested positive for cocaine and cannabis in 2000 during a spell with Reading. However, he fought back to win a single cap the following year.

Morton received a boost yesterday with the news that Michael Gardyne, their recent signing from Celtic, has not broken his ankle. Gardyne was stretchered off during the draw with St Johnstone on Saturday.

Jim McInally, the club's manager, confirmed yesterday: "The X-ray has shown no broken bones." Gardyne will continue to have treatment this week as the ankle is swollen and badly bruised.

Alex Walker, who suffered concussion after a head knock, and Dean Keenan who sustained an ankle injury, are said to be recovering



It will be interesting to compare that objective report with the inevitable splurge in the Tilly.
mortonjag 2007-09-25 06:19:20 post not found
mortonjag 2007-09-25 07:22:57
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 25 2007, 06:56 AM) [snapback]338743[/snapback]
Notice we were in the 2nd, now in the 1st, therefore good results = winning league = promotion = keep the manager for the forseeable future.
I think you just have to look at how tight the league is to see how important any kind of result is every week. It's clear to see that all teams will have patches of good form / bad form etc. Hopefully we've had our bad form out the road for a while.

'turn things around' Sorry mate, but this is the league we're in and I expect it to be similar fayre all season. We're sitting mid-table which we'd have taken so don't see what he has to turn round?

Personally I think it's been very entertaining, barring games v Hamilton and Livvy where we didn't really turn up. Games have been lively and very very watchable. Much better than the monotonous 2nd division where teams put up a back 9 formation every week.

Don't see what else people are asking for?

Prof-if it's mediocrity you crave, I couldnt agree more.
mortonjag 2007-09-25 08:21:11
QUOTE(Templesponston @ Sep 25 2007, 07:57 AM) [snapback]338747[/snapback]
You would have critised the club had they said nothing.

I really think you need to take a look at the word "support" in the dictionary and then look at some of the stuff you write about what you claim to be the club you support.

Well you think wrong mate-I predicted Shoogly would 'knee jerk' to criticism-real or imagined- as he always does-I genuinely hoped for something better-something that would encourage me to support an autocrat under whom the club appears to be stagnating.

I don't condone AM's behaviour-I abhor tabloid spin-it would have been nice to have had something from GMFC which DID put the matter to rest.

As it stands, they could have remained silent-Morton is no huge issue in the bigger world of Scottish football, and the matter may well have gone relatively unnoticed. Instead we now have a biggish splash in the Herald, and no doubt bigger in today's 'popular' productions.

As I asked previously, if the Club has evidence which could stand up to court examination, why have they not said so?

One final point-I am a staunch Morton supporter, and I'm willing to take any amount of flak from those who are happy with the current set up. A club without fans is dead, and our gates are not exactly on the increase despte moving (eventually) up one Division.
mortonjag 2007-09-25 08:27:17
QUOTE(centralTON @ Sep 24 2007, 10:33 AM) [snapback]338397[/snapback]
In his case would that be the Hitler youth?

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mortonjag 2007-09-25 08:30:41
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Sep 24 2007, 05:14 PM) [snapback]338599[/snapback]
It's ugly tests the officials have to pass these days laugh.gif

No luck mortonjag, but some of the players have fine calves for you to admire on matchdays at least smile.gif

I was thinking of starting a poll-'which Ton player has the nicest legs?', but I'd be accused of trying to stir up trouble in the ultra harmonious dressing room.

Kevin Finlayson has lovely calves BTW.
mortonjag 2007-09-25 08:59:41
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 25 2007, 08:44 AM) [snapback]338752[/snapback]
the question was: "did the white-coat brigade manage to find out what was wrong with you?" laugh.gif

(there was also another question about tests of statistical significance which, I agree, was rather tiresome)

and of course, the poll question was "Should DDFR appoint a 'Director of Football'?" and not whether "the Chairman should step aside" (which was the thread title) or indeed whether he should become "Honorary Chairman" (which was the poll headline) rolleyes.gif



1/ I'm not sure what you mean by 'The white coat brigade'. If you refer to my psychiatric team, they have been very pleased with my progress, though they do get upset when I tell them how much abuse I suffer on the Morton forum.

2/ Indeed, anybody who thinks those polls are statistically significant is a daft wee clot. Anyone who thinks they are insignificant is a massive thrombosis.

3/ ....and your point is? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-25 09:31:06
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Sep 25 2007, 09:06 AM) [snapback]338755[/snapback]
maybe, mentaljag, the club see mclaren's claim as frivolous and are treating it with the disinterest it merits.

why should it all be up to the club? the inaction of the player's union says more than a club press release ever could.

They have clearly not treated it with 'disinterest'! rolleyes.gif


As I stated before, it appears that neither the club nor the player has had feedback-that is perfectly normal with organisations of that type-they frequently require prodding to move things on. Why neither party has 'prodded' remains open to speculation, as indeed does the whole issue.
mortonjag 2007-09-26 05:03:21
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Sep 25 2007, 09:47 AM) [snapback]338758[/snapback]
On this post its "Douglas Rae" and "gratetful for the ongoing financial input" on other mortonjag posts its "shoogly" and other such trash.
This pile of s***e reminds me why I stopped posting to this forum.

Nice to hear you've seen sense-wecome back to legitimate debate-even chronic sycophancy is curable.
mortonjag 2007-09-26 05:15:29
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Sep 25 2007, 09:43 AM) [snapback]338757[/snapback]
i think they have. the tone of the press release is clearly one of disinterest.



have you ever had dealings with a union? there's not a union on the planet that needs 'prodding' to stand up for its members.

you're talking baws about something you know nothing about.

The FACT of the 'press release' says EVERYTHING-it's a typically defensive 'knee jerk' reaction by a man who cannot handle criticism.

Your final sentence is ludicrous and ill informed. I have had several dealings with the B.M.A., a registered Trade Union, and in the post-Thatcher era acknowledged by many to be potentially the most powerful in the country. I have also with other trades unions in my capacity as an employer.

I repeat that the fact that both parties STATE they have heard nothing hardly backs up claims that the 'case is closed'.
mortonjag 2007-09-26 05:20:47
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 25 2007, 11:51 AM) [snapback]338774[/snapback]
Like everyone else on here, I don't know the ins & outs of this.

Like most people on here, I'm not a legal eagle either.

Like most people on here, in spite of knowing sweet FA about it, I'm going to offer my inexpert opinion.

It seems, to me, very unlikely that, if there was a case to answer it would have festered in someone's desk for more than a year. I also thought that the basis of compensation in Scotland was just that - to compensate. If Andy stood the earn £30k in a year but, as a result of the alleged breach by Morton, earned only £20k, wouldn't the figure in dispute be £10k?

The circumstances of his departure from Dundee (where I presume he was earning at least as much as he would have at Morton) may muddy the waters further?

As for the conversations JM/ Andy Mac - only those present will ever know what was said. Lots of posters on here have jumped to the predetermined sides of the argument that they always so.

I for one, enjoyed Andy's contributions at Morton, but felt he should go when he did.

Sorry to see it descend into such a debacle now.

I can assure you from experience that those are often the very cases which drag on inexorably-there are several possble reasons, appart from simple lethary in the office. As I've suggested earlier, nothing is currently proved or disproved, by the APPARENT inaction.
mortonjag 2007-09-26 05:35:29
QUOTE(Edinton @ Sep 25 2007, 04:52 PM) [snapback]338895[/snapback]
Was Dorrans playing out wide? I thought he was a striker who played that game in an attacking midfield role or 'upfront'. I did watch most of that game through my fingers right enough...

Dougie's programme notes have always been cringeworthy, even when it was "simply" his extra "punctuation". Has he had a go at any of the players recently in his notes?

He always talks about the players as if he was sending out one of those Christmas Card letters describing the family's ups and downs over the previous year.

'Stuart's maturing in leaps and bounds but he keeps forgetting he's not the only child in the family, and as for Christopher, he's so bright, but why will he not be more careful when he's using the toilet-the number of times he misses is rather annoying to say the least. Finally, I can't go without mentioning little Jim-he's just so full of energy-no doubt when he's bigger that will be put to good effect'.
mortonjag 2007-09-26 05:48:29 So much ignorance! laugh.gif

Forget all the previous stuff about rules and regulations-for the sake of two measly grand the club is risking YOUR life next time you're at Scapa.

FACT
mortonjag 2007-09-26 05:52:12 Billy Reid was Hamilton YOUTH COACH five year ago. Last night his boys humped the mighty Killie!


Well done Sir. Thank God you have a Chairman with some vision.

Hamilton Acas 2 - 0 Kilmarnock
DEREK MILLER September 26 2007
HAPPY HAMILTON: High-flying Accies knocked out Kilmarnock
HAPPY HAMILTON: High-flying Accies knocked out Kilmarnock

Hamilton Academical, the first division leaders, booked their place in the quarter-finals of the CIS Insurance Cup for the first time in 26 years after sending 10-man Kilmarnock crashing out of the competition last night.

The last time Hamilton reached the last eight - they lost 9-0 on aggregate to Dundee United - neither of last night's goalscorers were born.

James McCarthy, who spent a week training with Liverpool last season, has been in fine form again this term and was instrumental in the match.

The 16-year-old scored the opener before fellow teenager James McArthur sealed the win, when he doubled the lead shortly before the break
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Confidence in the Accies camp was sky high ahead of the third-round tie: as well as disposing of East Stirling and Berwick Rangers in earlier rounds of the competition, they are also undefeated in the league.

Kilmarnock had entered the tie determined to go all the way to the final again in a bid to atone for last year's 5-1 thumping at the hands of Hibernian at Hampden.

It was the Clydesdale Bank Premier League side who threatened first. Rhian Dodds' corner picked out the head of David Lilley and he nodded inches wide of the upright within the opening minute.

Kilmarnock were then forced into an early change of plan when Dodds limped out of the action with less than 10 minutes gone and was replaced by youngster Ian Flanagan.

Hamilton were not overawed, though, and McArthur had a decent chance to open the scoring when he pounced on a poor clearance from Lilley and lashed just over from the edge of the box.

The visitors did not heed the warning signs and found themselves trailing after just 16 minutes. The defence failed to deal with a David Winters' cross and the ball broke to McCarthy who rifled past helpless goalkeeper Alan Combe.

Parity could have been restored almost immediately when Colin Nish teed up Grant Murray for the header and only the quick reflexes of goalkeeper Bryn Halliwell prevented the ball from nestling in the back of the net.

At the other end, Winters had the home crowd on their feet when he burst through on goal with only Combe to beat but fired into the side-netting from an awkward angle.

McArthur had more luck, doubling the advantage after 37 minutes. Lilley tried to clear a Mark Gilhaney cross only for the ball to strike his hand. Claims for a penalty were ignored by the referee Kenny Clark but the ball fell kindly for McArthur, who sent a right-footed shot low into the net.

Kilmarnock introduced both their remaining substitutes into the action for the second half in a bid to haul themselves back into the tie, David Fernandez and Ryan Jarvis replacing Alan Johnson and Craig Bryson. Frazer Wright joined Lilley in the referee's book shortly after the restart for clattering into Tom Parratt but the two-goal deficit seemed to have knocked most of the fight out of Jim Jefferies' side and they soon ran out of ideas.

The Rugby Park club's misery was compounded with 18 minutes to go when Fernandez was dismissed after picking up two yellow cards in quick succession.

Hamilton Academical Halliwell, Parratt, Gibson, Elebert, Swailes, Winters, McCarthy (Easton 84), McArthur, Stevenson, Gilhaney, Offiong (Wake 77).

Subs: Cerny, McLeod, Crawford Kilmarnock Combe, Murray, Lilley, Ford, Wright, Dodds (Flannigan 8), Fowler, Johnston (Jarvis 46), Gibson, Nish, Bryson (Fernandez 45). Subs: Rascle, Hamill Booked: Lilley, Wright Referee K Clark
mortonjag 2007-09-26 07:35:01
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 26 2007, 06:54 AM) [snapback]339110[/snapback]
Fck sake. What will it be next. Dougie's shirt / combo wasn't to your liking? His car had a bit of bird cack on it?

I think we've established you don't like Rae, perhaps you liked it better when that programme friendly Scott was in charge?

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I wasn't talking to you Professor Piehole-I was replying to someone with a sense of humour!

Now run off and have a nice day doing whatever you do ever so well!
mortonjag 2007-09-26 08:27:09
QUOTE(Lord Haw haw @ Sep 25 2007, 04:02 PM) [snapback]338866[/snapback]
I see the Old Firm has done a nude photo. I viewed it in today's Sun.

Why not have a Morton nude photo for charity. I would volunteer, anyone else ?

Us Brits are always viewed as eccentric anyway laugh.gif

Rule Britania
and
God Save Queen Elizabeth II

Haw Hee Haw, I don't think this was quite what they were looking for.
mortonjag 2007-09-26 08:44:14 Also to Barbara Dickson, Olivia Newton John, and our own Rankinborn.


Gershwin shares a birthday with another famous composer Rafa the pr*ck.
mortonjag 2007-09-26 08:48:01
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Sep 25 2007, 11:55 PM) [snapback]339086[/snapback]
Testing Testing 1, 2, 3.....

Testing Testing

Two testes
mortonjag 2007-09-26 08:49:17
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Sep 25 2007, 06:33 PM) [snapback]338918[/snapback]
I don't know Ardrossan that well mate, but I do know there is a school up the top of that road... you should be able to see it from the road once you go turn left.

The nearest school is Stanley which is the first main road to the right that you come to on Dalry Road
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=22...5&ay=643613

Whre have you been-I hope you are well.
mortonjag 2007-09-26 08:58:59 There's a bitch downstairs from us.

I honestly don't think she's had one of those organism things though she frequently yelps.

Anyway I'll keep you posted.
mortonjag 2007-09-26 09:56:53
QUOTE(Tinton @ Sep 26 2007, 09:16 AM) [snapback]339120[/snapback]
Mr Jag (I’m not so sure of your “Morton†allegiance) I have admired your skill over the years as an agent provocateur, but now clearly you are going too far to be taken seriously. I have notice that lately you are perusing issues that are so demonstratively lost causes that you are becoming a bit of a figure of fun. There are a couple of younger guys on here who are stealing your crown.

Take this tip in the spirit it is offered, that of friendship; stop post so much, stop blaming Douglas Rae for all the ills of the world, say something supportive of Morton for once (it doesn’t even have to be that supportive).

Don’t bother replaying to this with a quote highlighting a line in red and saying something uncomplimentary about me, unlike you I am a busy guy and can’t be on this forum much so I probably won’t get to see it for ages.

If your tip is truly 'offered in the spirit of friendship' why don't you PM this agent provocateur, and I'll privately explain a few matters?
mortonjag 2007-09-26 10:03:08
QUOTE(Edinton @ Sep 26 2007, 09:54 AM) [snapback]339128[/snapback]
What makes you think it's McInally that is responsible for that the youth setup...or lack of???

There's only so much a manager can do if he is restricted by his employer(s)...

And if Hamilton can do it, and have laid down a decent blueprint, then I see little reason why we couldn't, we've certainly got the catchment area and I'd be surprised if we couldn't get the sponsorship from local businesses. This is a fantastic statement from their chairman, and one I would love to see echoed at Scapa:

The sad truth appears to be that Douglas Rae does honestly believe he's doing his best for Morton, and that nobody else should be allowed to interfere..

That is the main reason I harp on about delegation. The evidence of his detrimental effect on our long term viability increases by the day, and STILL there are those who are happy to slag off myself and others for daring to speak out.
mortonjag 2007-09-26 10:45:35
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Sep 26 2007, 09:44 AM) [snapback]339124[/snapback]
you have tryed the burgers too then laugh.gif laugh.gif

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-26 10:46:38
QUOTE(Muz @ Sep 26 2007, 10:03 AM) [snapback]339132[/snapback]
11,913 posts.

Thats a fair amount of drivel MJ.

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mortonjag 2007-09-26 10:50:34
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 26 2007, 10:17 AM) [snapback]339138[/snapback]
I thought it was a fairly reasonable response to a difficult situation.

As we are not party to the detailed allegations by Andy Mac, it would hardly be appropriate for Morton to produce a detailed denial for public consumption, would it?

I take your point about the timescale, though.

True Trumpton-but two things have irritated me-mainly the fact that certain posters have seen the statement on GMFC as 'closing the case', but also the fact that in making its own allegations rather that keeping quiet, I believe the club has simply attracted needless outside attention.
mortonjag 2007-09-26 11:05:31
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 26 2007, 10:56 AM) [snapback]339149[/snapback]
Yep, some folk are clutching at straws with this now.
Erm, this is a public forum. If you didn't want certain folk replying, then you should have just sent a PM to the folk you reckoned wanted to hear your incessant ramblings

Yours aye... tongue.gif

I specifically replied to Edinton's question, and as usual that young clot took the opportunity to have a dig at me. I'm convinced he stirs the big molten Fudgy Wudgy pot at GC-that's why I encouraged him not to be late, and wished him well at work-I'm sure you understand. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-27 06:09:01
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 26 2007, 12:55 PM) [snapback]339180[/snapback]
I was commenting on your initial post which I don't think has any trace of humour in it. Just a usual petty comment.

I also notice your attempt at name calling which seems to have been a recurring theme in the last few days. Very clever, you think that my mocking me people won't bother reading any of my posts.

And he seems to think I am only a young kid? Only one person being childish there.
It's not that I take the opportnuity to have a dig at you... it's just that it's there to be done. mortonjag starts a thread and it's like an inch perfect cross at the back post waiting to be headed home
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It depends on the definition of a 'young kid' Piehole-several other posters, much younger than you, do demonstrate maturity.

If you're just playing by the rules of the game, what's your beef with 'name calling'?
mortonjag 2007-09-27 06:13:42
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Sep 26 2007, 07:22 PM) [snapback]339310[/snapback]
its all just pointless drivle he is an old man getting his kicks aint you mortonjag lol. But seriously who cares what ddfr writes we have known for years his page is pish so why wait until now to have a real go at him he may spout pish but what the hell you should just laugh and let him get on with it

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You miss the point-I'm NOT having go at him-I'm merely sharing his words with posters who cannot afford a programme. I'm trying to spread mirth and happiness.
mortonjag 2007-09-27 06:18:54
QUOTE(Edinton @ Sep 26 2007, 04:25 PM) [snapback]339233[/snapback]
I didn't say McInally hasn't tried to do this...we don't know that he hasn't. In fact I'd be surprised if he hasn't at least tried to introduce ideas or a new youth setup or get Martin Clark involved.

The point I tried to make was that maybe he's been hindered by not owning the club.... Maybe take off the 'McInally is a f*d' glasses for a wee while?

In terms of the day to day running of the club, and dealing with policy, Jim hasn't a chance.
mortonjag 2007-09-27 06:20:39
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 26 2007, 08:29 PM) [snapback]339364[/snapback]
Exactly.

Our alternative to that is "bring a friend."

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Or. 'If you're not going to turn up I'm not going to splash so much cash'.
mortonjag 2007-09-27 06:31:27
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 26 2007, 09:22 PM) [snapback]339390[/snapback]
Don't quite agree with that one MJ. The club had to respond otherwise it would just add fuel to the flames, so to speak. We have the words of both parties now. It's up to the fans to make their minds up on who they believe. Personally, I would have liked AM to have had another year but, going on his form at the time, I can see why he wasn't offered an extention. AM did not go running to the press at the time, not was there anything else mentioned about it. That says a lot to me. Silence is golden and all that stuff.

Weegie, I was just hoping that if the club could PROVE its case, it would have stated that in blue and white. Instead, it rambles on about 'mutual agreements', which can mean absolutely anything, and have little standing in a court of law.

It's the fact that they appear to have 'knee jerked' with their own allegations which is IMO poor, and only puts them on the same level as the other side.
mortonjag 2007-09-27 06:40:05 Where do those stats come from-do they actually measure the players, or just ask them for their own profile.

I'd be astonished if Robinson is 5'11", and if wee Jay is 5'7", my monkey's a gorilla.
mortonjag 2007-09-27 06:49:00
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 25 2007, 12:13 AM) [snapback]338726[/snapback]
I also agree fully and wish David all the best.

A cartilage operation is one that players come back from fine. I remember them being fairly commonplace years ago but you never heard of the ligament damage which seems relatively common now. I wonder if its just down to how injuries are diagnosed now or rather were not diagnosed 40 years ago

I recall my dad taking me to visit Johnny Boyd when he was in what was then Larkfield hospital for a cartilage op. He was back playing pretty quickly and hoofing the ball over the stand just as well as ever.

The most common cause of a torn cartilage is a sudden twisting of the knee when the foot is 'stuck'.

I guess there are several reasons why that happens much less-improved playing surfaces and footwear obviously help, as do proper warming up techniques. The game is also much less physical than before-nobody's allowed to tackle like Johnny Boyd for example.

I doubt if ligament injuries are becoming more common-modern technology-particularly scanning-allows more accurate diagnosis. You don't hear nearly so many vague terms like 'strain', and 'sprain'
mortonjag 2007-09-27 07:08:05 If you want the answer to this question, just think of Lord Sainsbury, who's been left in the dark by Tesco when it comes to graft.

Stores like Lidl and Aldi offer an excellent service by keeping their own costs very low-no frills, and you not only have to know what to buy but when to buy. Curently I can go into my local Lidl's at 8.30 a.m. and see a fantastic choice of fruit and veg. at less than half the price in Morrisons (150 yards away). Try going in twelve hours later, and you get the 'scraps'. Furthermore, their customer service is 'zilch', but who needs customer service if he's a canny shopper?
mortonjag 2007-09-27 07:14:27
QUOTE(Templesponston @ Sep 26 2007, 10:32 PM) [snapback]339422[/snapback]
Once again MJ talks baws biggrin.gif

My friend H E BALL is constantly testing his testes.
mortonjag 2007-09-27 07:19:34
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 27 2007, 12:29 AM) [snapback]339450[/snapback]
exactly the sort of guy our new director of football will appoint. in fact, he probably is our new director of football

I heard we were after some Italian bloke-Tagliatelli I believe or Machiavelli or something. I'd hate to see us successful on the back of a f*d like Jefferies. huh.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-27 07:24:44 Off to Dunoon today-driving down by the Bonnie Banks, and back on the ferry. Can't believe we're almost into October. Very strange weather those days. I put it down to that fluoride in the water.
mortonjag 2007-09-27 08:15:20
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 27 2007, 07:48 AM) [snapback]339470[/snapback]
Done that run many a time. Agree with WDE, east side of Loch lomond its tops!!

Once had a fantastic day on the beach at Balmaha-barbie, booze, and the use of a friend's boat-ah the memories! sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-27 09:38:09
QUOTE(princessTON @ Sep 27 2007, 09:31 AM) [snapback]339484[/snapback]
If any of your neighbours annoy you, do you lamp them with a shovel and volley them into a different neighbours garden? ohmy.gif

The best thing in my experience is to hire a trained molester-cheap at the price.
mortonjag 2007-09-27 19:24:55
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Sep 27 2007, 12:15 PM) [snapback]339517[/snapback]
Why did you not use your own "vessel"? Was she a minger? laugh.gif

I wouldn't quite describe her as that-but she was certainly 'laid up' for the last many years of our relationship-something about a dry dock, if I recall correctly..
mortonjag 2007-09-27 19:26:16
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 27 2007, 01:30 PM) [snapback]339532[/snapback]
It's quite nice in Weegieland to. Looking out my office window the sun is breaking through, and the leaves on the trees are turning a lovely orangey colour.

Not often green turns to orange in Weegie-Weegie!
mortonjag 2007-09-27 19:35:57
QUOTE(lush @ Sep 27 2007, 07:18 PM) [snapback]339659[/snapback]
Did you stop at the "Rest and be thankful"? Its beautiful up there.

We'd stopped in at the wee PO in Crianlarich for a coffee, and again at Strachur. Loch Restil looked glorious-sun refecting off motionless water made it mirror like. Loch Eck side was hauntingly beautiful today-even the Holy loch was an enchanting site as we looked across from Sandbank to Kilmun-oops-mortonjag's sounding almost normal-time for more nasty pills! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-27 19:40:09
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Sep 27 2007, 07:12 PM) [snapback]339656[/snapback]
Well you had a great day weatherwise for your day Doon The Water.

Did you and the monkey enjoy yourselves ??

Shh Willow-the Monkey is raging-he got left behind with his wee pal 'Fing', and when we got back they had trashed their bedroom. Now the wee midden's asking if it' time to go to Dundee yet!
Effin weans-where would we be without them? smile.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-28 05:31:56
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Sep 27 2007, 07:46 PM) [snapback]339682[/snapback]
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Is your mum keeping well MJ as I think that's who you go and visit in Dunoon unsure.gif

sad.gif She's still in hospital Willow, and may not be out 'til Christmas. Physically she's coming on, but she's been pretty low in spirits (you'll understand what that can do to one)! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-28 05:36:40
QUOTE(Lord Haw haw @ Sep 27 2007, 08:40 PM) [snapback]339695[/snapback]
Yes,Britain is such a wonderful place to live and a sunny day makes it more so.

I was in Cowal yesterday Hee Haw-that's part of Scotland. Why don't you pop into one of the hostelries there and chat to the locals. It would be good for the forum.
mortonjag 2007-09-28 05:43:01
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 27 2007, 09:42 AM) [snapback]339487[/snapback]
Last time we contained them fairly well until half time, despite playing a 3-5-2 that the players were not comfortable with. We lost a deflected goal which had an element of luck to it even if Zemlik did try to put the deflection on it and ended up chasing the game which always makes the opposition look better. JM then put more and more forwards on which further unbalanced the team.

So, taking nothing away from Dundee, I reckon tactics had a fair bit to down with our defeat last time. This time we will play 4-4-2 and we always look more solid when we do.

I'm hoping Saturday will also be an anti climax for Dundee and that we benefit from that.

If it all comes together we might get a draw from this game.

TBH I thought we never really turned up for that game-even our fans never got going, and after the second goal we looked finished. As I've said, we've got such a ragbag of a side that I think the actual selection and tactics matter very little. If the boys are up for it tomorrow, we can surprise them.
mortonjag 2007-09-28 05:45:47
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 27 2007, 10:07 PM) [snapback]339728[/snapback]
Ja, the CIS Cup game.
I know for fact it is now at least smaller than Forthbank's pitch for example, and with the rather narrow lining of the current pitch it appears rather tight to me.

You're narrow minded, young man.
mortonjag 2007-09-28 06:01:45
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 27 2007, 06:13 PM) [snapback]339605[/snapback]
It's not looking good for McLaren's 'claims' at all. Still, expect MJ to pop on and say he was made to say those things and its all a horrible, horrible conspiracy. rolleyes.gif

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Good morning gentlemen-another fine day in prospect-you'll need shades rather than rose tints in this weather!

McLaren has spun it one way, and Morton the other. Neither side has offered proof of anything, though we've seen from several issues throughout the closed season that GMFC ALWAYS speaks the truth.

What was that old expression about 'Talking a good game'? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-28 06:12:36 If we're going on the squad fotie, Jay looks positively diminutive!
mortonjag 2007-09-28 06:24:59 I was discussing the implications of this with a lawyer friend yesterday-I asked if Morton could be sued for not adhering to 'guidelines' if a player (or spectator) died of a cardiac arrest.

He said firstly that they are clearly breaking no law, adding that as the SFA have made recommendations on Health and Safety issues which the club has deliberately ignored, the Board could be deemed guilty of corporate manslaughter, since the consequences of its deliberate action are PREDICTABLE.
mortonjag 2007-09-28 06:41:04
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Sep 27 2007, 11:09 PM) [snapback]339750[/snapback]
Last thing I did before leaving work today was read this thread... killing time. Amazing coincidence that about 40 mins later, who gets on the train at Port Glasgow with his wife/girlfriend and child... Chris Millar.

Will look up an Angelina Jolie site before I leave tomorrow... you never know! wink.gif

Did you notice the destination on their bags? laugh.gif

IMO Midge is yet another victim of JM's philosophy. We are still overloaded with midfielders- that doesn't make him a bad player. One cracking game and he'll be re-instated as 'God' by three quarters of the forum.

Chris has 'dug us out of a hole' several times in the past- I recall two cracking goals against Gretna and a stunning performance at Skunk park. Why the numerous MOTM awards too?

What's the point in pulling our squad to shreds anyway-why don't you lot have the baws to criticise the real villains of the piece?
mortonjag 2007-09-28 06:44:34
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 28 2007, 06:36 AM) [snapback]339770[/snapback]
Your trying to share your hatred more like, seriously though, give it up, you really are a boring old fool. sad.gif

Seriously -did it really take you fully 24 hours to think that up, or were you waiting for somebody who can type for you?
mortonjag 2007-09-28 06:46:48
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 28 2007, 06:43 AM) [snapback]339772[/snapback]
Why dont you dissapear & give everyone some peace !

Christ-you can't type and that mate can't spell.
mortonjag 2007-09-28 06:51:08 The signings of Russell and Gardyne have significantly strengthened our options 'up front'. I don't frankly see much improvement elsewhere.
mortonjag 2007-09-28 06:53:11
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 28 2007, 06:49 AM) [snapback]339775[/snapback]
[b]Some of us have jobs & a life[/b], other than sitting in front of the computer for 18 hours a day like you, if you're too thick to realise that then you really are an old fool.

Somebody EMPLOYS you! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-28 06:54:27
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 28 2007, 06:52 AM) [snapback]339777[/snapback]
Oh no, your right !!! ohmy.gif

Mortonjag is ALWAYS right.
mortonjag 2007-09-28 07:11:58
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 28 2007, 07:00 AM) [snapback]339780[/snapback]
So you're saying that the quotes of McLaren in the Tele are spin? huh.gif Accept it, the truth is out. He said he wanted to leave as he didn't want to play in the second division. Now he says he wanted to stay!

Puggs-that's what he was REPORTED to have said!

Do you believe everything you read in the newspapers, (or the'Tilly')?

What AM says in his book, and what GMFC claims, are both likely to have some truth in them-they are both interpretations of what really happened. That is all I have said, and that is why I believe the Club has gained nothing from its recent statement.
mortonjag 2007-09-28 07:40:24
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 28 2007, 07:29 AM) [snapback]339786[/snapback]
Nothing, but it just highlight's how little you've got in your locker.

Do you mean my safe Prof?

Sometimes I'm confused by those childish expressions, though I suspect you may have been attempting to call me names again.

Very knotty-wood eye descend to your level?
mortonjag 2007-09-28 07:58:30
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 28 2007, 07:26 AM) [snapback]339784[/snapback]
Of course I don't, believe everything. But the fact it was a direct quote from the time aznd something the reporting felt was not only necessary to bring up but basically wrote an editorial on the whole affair makes me fail the quote is accurate.

Can you actually accept maybe for once Morton are not the baddies and that someone else may be telling porkies!

I have already stated that there will be some truth in both sides of the story. One thing's clear AM has at least NAMED somebody (Derek McInnes), whom he claims can back up his story of 'sacking by phonecall'. That, of course, proves nothing, but READ the actual wording of the Morton statement.


Supporters may have read quotes from Andy McLaren in yesterdays Sunday Mail regarding the circumstances around his departure from the Club last year, and his comments have caused some disbelief amongst those here at Cappielow.

At the beginning of May 2006, Andy met with our management team and informed them of some personal problems he was, and had been, encountering. The Club has a policy of arranging for qualified, independent help for players when required, and this was done. Over the next couple of weeks, it became apparent that the problems Andy was experiencing were becoming more complex and it was agreed, very amicably, between the management team and the player that he would “bow out†at the end of season 2005 – 2006.

We were therefore surprised when, having left by mutual agreement, we received notification in June 2006 from the Scottish Football League that Andy intended to pursue a claim against the Club. At that time, we wrote to both the SFL and the Scottish Professional Footballers Association outlining the circumstances as we understood them, and advising that we would be happy to co-operate in any way required. Copies of all correspondence were sent to Andy, and no further communication regarding the matter has since been received from either Andy, the SFL or the SPFA.

We hope that Andy has been able to further address the problems that he has continued to face over the years, and our best wishes remain with him for the future.


Everything seems to hinge on a spurious 'amicable agreement' between AM and the 'Management Team'---NOT the Chairman, or the Board.

I put it to you that the 'amicable agreement' refers to the telephone conversation described by McLaren in his book.

If that is the case, everything the club has stated is based on a one sided report of the outcome of that conversation-AM's version is of course different.
mortonjag 2007-09-28 08:02:35
QUOTE(otter @ Sep 28 2007, 07:16 AM) [snapback]339783[/snapback]
Can I just point out that a certain Andy Goram was "only" 5' 11" and he seemed to get by.

Phil.

The future's bright...

Size doesn't matter-it's what you do with it that counts! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-28 08:08:44 post not found
mortonjag 2007-09-29 07:06:46 We will win1-0. Jamie will play a blinder and get the only goal-I have this on good authority! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-29 07:13:14
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Sep 28 2007, 08:35 AM) [snapback]339791[/snapback]
Well both have been playing at the back so its not as tho ur just flinging them in there! I absolutely sh*te myself everytime a ball is in our box these days. Dumb & Dumber in the middle are an accident constantly waiting to happen!!

It seems to depend on the fitness of Scott and Kieran. I'd play Jay at right back, Alex at left back, the usual duo at centre back, with Jamie, Jimbo, Scott and Kieran across the middle, and SORRY folks, but Spoonsy and Sanny up front.
mortonjag 2007-09-29 07:18:32
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 28 2007, 05:33 PM) [snapback]339939[/snapback]
I'll put a tenner on it McInally will eventually leave after the Dundee game . rolleyes.gif

And stroll home, arms still folded!
mortonjag 2007-09-29 07:22:54
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Sep 28 2007, 07:18 PM) [snapback]339976[/snapback]
Never liked Finnie, but an improvement on Somers, he does have the odd good game.

If I remember correctly he tries to let the game 'flow' and often ends up having to deal with some rough stuff.
mortonjag 2007-09-29 07:24:50
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 28 2007, 11:57 AM) [snapback]339831[/snapback]
Seems you're the only one being childish now MJ.

Anyway, long live Dougie's Programme ramblings!

My heart leaps up when I behold a rainbow in the sky. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-29 07:27:12
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 28 2007, 09:20 PM) [snapback]340015[/snapback]
Have to correct your glaring error there.

I've never done anthing BUT support the TEAM no matter what.

However, that's where my blind loyalty stops.

The guys on the park can only do their best and as long as they give 100% and never hide they have my backing.

The board and management are another kettle of fish.

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It could be argued that our players have been 'sold down the river' just as we have.
mortonjag 2007-09-29 07:32:25
QUOTE(SramTon @ Sep 28 2007, 10:58 PM) [snapback]340031[/snapback]
naitch, mclaren's statement to the tele also differs from the version on gmfc.net.

he was putting a positive spin on it: stating that he chose to leave morton to chase 1st div football looks better than morton dumped him because he couldn't perform in div 2 and has serious personal issues.

if the "real" story had come out do you think he'd have got that move to dundee?

i'm sure there's a ton of lies out there.

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mortonjag 2007-09-29 07:34:15
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Sep 29 2007, 01:22 AM) [snapback]340052[/snapback]
Well you'll be pleased to know then that I'm enjoying a lovely can of Tennents tongue.gif

Don't you mean 'a can of lovely Tennents' Willow? They took yon girlies off years ago!
mortonjag 2007-09-29 07:37:58
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Sep 28 2007, 06:54 PM) [snapback]339965[/snapback]
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I hope she gets better soon and that the thought of being home for Christmas gees her spirits up.

I've never spent Christmas in hospital although medically speaking I should have but I deliberately waited till Boxing Day before letting the quacks admit me.

Buggars kept me in till 2nd Jan to teach me a lesson tongue.gif

They did however know that Morton were playing that Scummy Mob that day and let me out at 11am so I could go biggrin.gif

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mortonjag 2007-09-29 07:39:54
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 28 2007, 07:52 PM) [snapback]339995[/snapback]
hmm, i'm afraid you're turing into NewTon

First left off the M61 after the airport.
mortonjag 2007-09-29 07:44:30
QUOTE(Lord Haw haw @ Sep 28 2007, 11:41 PM) [snapback]340037[/snapback]
Still doesn't beat God Save the Queen.

I take it you like a good unionist, refused to sing the line "Rise and be anationa again" ?

I hate that line mad.gif

WTF is this Anationa?

Hee Haw you've been getting carried away with the 'Midsummer Night's Dream' rehearsals you ass. Didn't you mean Titania-Queen of the FAIRIES?
mortonjag 2007-09-29 07:49:20
QUOTE(Lord Haw haw @ Sep 28 2007, 09:16 PM) [snapback]340013[/snapback]
Not nice my friend. Have you no British values ? mad.gif

Don't knock it 'til you've tried it-I gather she removes her teeth which her lady in waiting places on a diamond studded velvet cushion before leaving the chamber.
mortonjag 2007-09-29 07:59:14
QUOTE(Edinton @ Sep 28 2007, 05:15 PM) [snapback]339935[/snapback]
Can you just post a link instead of reproducing entire articles lest we incur the wrath of copyright...

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I once posted half a dozen links to my cousin, along with a pound of square sausage-they took a fortnight to arrive, and she wasn't awfy pleased either..
mortonjag 2007-09-29 08:00:45
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 28 2007, 08:00 PM) [snapback]340001[/snapback]
you are turning into NewTon

Nope-still three and a half miles says Tom Tom.
mortonjag 2007-09-29 08:04:22
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 28 2007, 01:37 PM) [snapback]339879[/snapback]
Is the point not that the regiments were told that their bases would be in Scotland? I don't think anyone is suggesting that they shouldn't be deployed overseas if required (although maybe Iraq isn't the most sensible deployment location...), simply that a Scottish regiment should be based in Scotland. I wouldn't expect to see the Devonshire Regiment (if there is such a thing) being asked to have their base camp in Aberdeen.

I think you have misinterpreted the article MJ, although given that it's written by Douglas Fraser perhaps that's understandable!

TBH Alibi, I didn't try to interpret it-that's a dangerous pursuit when politicians 'splurge'.

I was just terribly amused by the suggestion that our population was about to be decimated-more chance of that if thae sodjers are not deployed correctly.
mortonjag 2007-09-30 07:52:05
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 29 2007, 10:24 AM) [snapback]340109[/snapback]
You better had, as I'm off to put a fiver on that score wink.gif

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That f***in Monkey!
mortonjag 2007-09-30 08:02:31
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 29 2007, 08:15 PM) [snapback]340460[/snapback]
Zemlik is far more consistent.
How Templeman can win every header from the 15th to the 75th minute but win almost naff-all either side is beyond me.
Is he a luxury worth having in the starting 11?
IMO, no.

Don't be a Silly Billy, Adrianus.
mortonjag 2007-09-30 08:05:56
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Sep 29 2007, 11:21 PM) [snapback]340497[/snapback]
Terrible defending, first with 3 men going out to one man, then with Greacen and Harding standing still as the ball came into the box, although can't see why Robinson just let Palenik walk past him into the net.
We need a centre back on loan now.
Another disgusting performance from Ryan Harding; who told him he was a footballer?

No need to be nasty-his form will return, if not with us-in a better place. Mark my words.
mortonjag 2007-09-30 08:13:36
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Sep 29 2007, 08:15 AM) [snapback]340084[/snapback]
This topic is a waste of time, there are 2 arguments which no doubt both have elements of truth and false hood, who has the most to gain and who has the most to lose. Andy would no doubt be looking for compensation which would leave the club loosers. The club is not the most transparent in some of its dealings but I feel that they have acted properly in this saga. Andy wants to sell his book so there has to be some mud slinging to get books off the shelf and create interest.

Andy has shown that he was a liability, he started off well for us but became increasingly unpredictable, he wanted to be a winner but if winning is getting on at your team mates and then arguing with referees as well as launching into ludicrous tackles then he was a star man. However he was a bigger problem than he would admit and I am sure that is why the club took the option not to renew his contract. Dont get me wrong as a player on his day Andy was superb, he showed elements of sheer genius, few and far between but he also had a side that turned him into a raving loonatic.

It also beggars the question why has this taken so long to raise its head, if Andy had any sort of claim against the club I am sure it would have been out long ago and if he was in the right and the club was acting inappropriately then I am sure the SPFA and the SFA would have forced the issue.

Sorry but I just believe that on this ocassion Andy is headline hunting to shift his book. Good player he was and tormented he trully is. I wish him well but he should put this to bed.



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mortonjag 2007-09-30 08:21:19
QUOTE(moneton!!! @ Sep 30 2007, 12:04 AM) [snapback]340524[/snapback]
Am not a fan of our defence either and I am sure if you met me or anybody that knows me they would say that but the fact is the transfer window is shut and we are stuck with these players till January atleast.

The sooner people stop thinking we will finish in the top half of this league the better as we are not good enough.

I hate Ryan Harding, he is a shocking example of a defender but all we can do from today is learn from it. Who are we going to bring in to replace them? Untested youths?? Cmon guys lets get behind the team, ok another defeat is a hard one to take but this is going (and I absolutely hate losing) to be a long hard season and if I am honest we won't finish any higher than 7th, and you can hold me to that!

Edit to add: I may be trying to save a sinking ship here, but let's get behind the guys.... performance aren't going to get any better if you get on the players backs. Lets look at positives. Brian Graham has came in from the youths and scored a few goals, todays being a peach.

McAlister has been brilliant so far this season.

Russell is just gelling into the team and has already got a goal

Keenan (I'm not a fan) but so far has put in a few performances to make people (like myself) eat their words about him.

We have many players out injured and although I am not happy we didn't strengthen much over the summer but we as fans have to relise we are no longer the big fish in a small pond


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mortonjag 2007-09-30 08:23:27
QUOTE(lemmington @ Sep 30 2007, 08:07 AM) [snapback]340558[/snapback]
I thought our players were overawed in the 1st 15 mins of this game.The way I saw it was...our team were thinking...we are playing against a team who performed brilliantly v celtic on th tv.

Once we put these thoughts to the back of our heads and started to believe in ourselves,we were the better team.
Make no mistake,we deserved something from this game today.

The positives
Special praise must go to Jim McAllistair for his effort today,won't be long till he's gone if he keeps his form up.
Kevin Finlayson also had a great game,some great crosses(for a change)well done Kev.
Thought Jamie also had a good game,kept running at and taking on players.
Jay Sheilds also had a good game with his trademark tenacity.

The negatives.
Big Ryan seems to have lost his confidence,not only in this game but previous ones before.
Peter got skinned for the 2nd goal.Great on the ball and plenty of skill,but never a defender,especially at this level.Not Peter's fault,but he doesn't have the pace to keep up with the 1st division's flying number 11's.

Great to see the real morton fans applauding their team off the park,they know their team put in the effort and were extremely unlucky.

The solution
Out team is crying out for 3 players
A right back.
A central defender
An experienced midfielder.

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mortonjag 2007-09-30 08:38:26 Thoroughly enjoyed the game yesterday-JM got really involved, and the lads were excellent. I was proud of the performance and with many others applauded them off at the end.

Who was that old c*nt talking to our Manager trackside just before the game-was he wanting his autograph-f*ckin' waste of space whoever he was IMO. He should know the Manager has much more important matters on his mind at that point in his working week.
mortonjag 2007-09-30 08:44:29
GET IT RIGHT UP YEEZ



No less than SIX individual players 'pulled to pieces' on this 'rag' after an excellent performance. Never happier than when you're havin' a good old moan, eh?

Yours Aye,


Mortonjag.
mortonjag 2007-09-30 08:49:00
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 30 2007, 08:45 AM) [snapback]340564[/snapback]
Surely you blame Shoogly for the moaners? huh.gif

Mr Rae, (I assume he is the person described by your inflammatory and derogatory'handle') is not responsible for the behaviour of a few clots.
mortonjag 2007-09-30 08:51:21
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 30 2007, 08:46 AM) [snapback]340565[/snapback]
You been hitting some medicinal freebies or something?

Someone hacked the jag's account? laugh.gif

Credit where due, young Puggs-fair's fair you know! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-30 08:52:57
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 30 2007, 08:50 AM) [snapback]340567[/snapback]
A wee nerve been touched there MJ tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2007-09-30 08:58:32 Sorry I missed the birthdays guys-that'll be you 14-3/4 now Adrian-well done!!
mortonjag 2007-09-30 09:01:40 If Hee Haw IS Tontastic, why is he not dealing with those evil threats from some drunken negativity boy?
mortonjag 2007-09-30 09:03:15
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 29 2007, 10:46 AM) [snapback]340111[/snapback]
I'd like to make the same suggestion for moronjag, and before anyone says it, i know i keep responding to him. sad.gif

Shame on me.

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mortonjag 2007-09-30 09:06:05
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Sep 29 2007, 12:06 PM) [snapback]340129[/snapback]
There's a thread elsewhere that I am almost unable to read, as it appears to be a conversation between Haw haw and mortonjag (both of whom I have on ignore). biggrin.gif

Then you will sadly miss my commendation of your bravery.
mortonjag 2007-09-30 09:49:48
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 30 2007, 09:12 AM) [snapback]340578[/snapback]
Good thread and after two good performances which have yielded only a point, many people are getting a reality check and seeing just how competitive this season is going to be. We aren't going to be challenging near the top but I fully expect us to pick up points in the next round of matches against the QoS's, Stirling's, Thistle's etc.

We have great positives to take from the last two games, and have a lot of players in great form. Shields, McAlister, Greacan, Russell, Temps and Graham are all in good nick. Finlayson had an excellent 2nd half and possibly hit the best ever cross of his life onto Temp's 50p shaped head. Never thought I would have lived to see the day.

Thought Greacan was outstanding yesterday and managed to marshall Harding from pish poor to average after 15/20 mins. Guy got a head or foot in the way of everything that was near him.

Standtastic Ton - where have you been? Jimbo has been outstanding all season, clearly our best player in almost every game. Jimbo and Shields are in good form and almost wonder how we may accomodate Scotty when he is fully fit.

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Don't panic Prof-I actually agree with almost all of that-stick to the football and I'll deal with the rest thanks! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-30 09:53:01
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Sep 30 2007, 09:48 AM) [snapback]340593[/snapback]
quality mj elaborate please

I think it's as perceptive as your signature, unless of course, you know more than you're saying! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-30 10:01:31
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 30 2007, 09:12 AM) [snapback]340579[/snapback]
Not now he won't wink.gif


laugh.gif You'll be the next victim of his 'huff button' thuggery!
mortonjag 2007-09-30 10:03:12
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Sep 30 2007, 10:00 AM) [snapback]340601[/snapback]
think he meant to say stop talking s***e

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mortonjag 2007-09-30 10:28:41
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 30 2007, 10:09 AM) [snapback]340607[/snapback]
You're nitpicking at one of the better ares of the squad.
Try looking at the role of the defence and midfield for the goals first.
I'm quite happy to keep Robinson in goal - far bigger haddiess are in need of frying. wink.gif

Seemsss they are sizzzzling already.
mortonjag 2007-09-30 10:32:00
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 30 2007, 10:14 AM) [snapback]340612[/snapback]
PLEASE tell me Rae wasn't interfering again?

Oh for a Brian Clough type figure to be in charge at Cappielow who'd tell our meddlesome Chairman to F off and know his place.

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Bizarre- I said almost EXACTLY those words to my brother on the way home, and he just gave a wee wry smile!
mortonjag 2007-09-30 10:35:34
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 30 2007, 10:23 AM) [snapback]340614[/snapback]
I must admit I've still to buy into the "Jim McAllister's a class act" fan club.

Only been to four games this season due to holidays, stag do etc but he's yet to look anything other than decent in each game I've seen. Plenty of hard graft but never has any significant impact on the game, much like a lot of our players.

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The more I watch Jimbo, the more I realise he desperately needs somebody to sort out his career-the ability IS there.
mortonjag 2007-09-30 10:40:08
QUOTE(Templesponston @ Sep 30 2007, 10:36 AM) [snapback]340618[/snapback]
God forbid someone talks to his employees!
Just admit it, yer jelous Mr Scott wink.gif

Not at all Sir-I much prefer my excellent ice cream to his scummy wee Fudgy Wudgys, and my Aston can take the knickers off his little Noddy mobile any day.
mortonjag 2007-09-30 10:42:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 30 2007, 10:14 AM) [snapback]340611[/snapback]
I was talking at that particular period in history.

At the present time here in Scotland, I don't see the need for a Monarchy.

In this day and age, any Monarchy is archaic-END OF!
mortonjag 2007-09-30 10:44:34
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 30 2007, 10:12 AM) [snapback]340610[/snapback]
It's alright Earnie, He Haw is still you mate. You have so much in common laugh.gif

Are you calling me a donkey Claymore C*ck-name calling is infantile.
mortonjag 2007-09-30 11:31:48
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 30 2007, 11:08 AM) [snapback]340631[/snapback]
not like you to praise the manager biggrin.gif

One swallow doth not a summer make, but credit where due!
mortonjag 2007-09-30 11:40:34
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 30 2007, 11:08 AM) [snapback]340632[/snapback]
I think that we have the makings a of a very decent side if we can shut the back door. Yesterday we outplayed Dundee for 70 minutes of the game and still came away with nothing! If we are not careful we will have hard luck stories all the way back to the second division!

Both goals were again defensive nightmares. I thought the first, the goalkeeper should have cut out although the defence should never have put him in that position in the first place. When Daquin had the ball out wide three of our players all went for him and he was able to slip the ball past them and got a free run in.

The second goal was down to Weatherson who was beaten far too easily and that allowed the cross that put the central defence in serious difficulty.

McInally needs to think about what he can do about the defence because almost anything would be better than the way they are playing now.

The first goal which resulted from three guys chasing the ball involved two (Spoonsy and Jay) who were playing out of their natural positions, and as you say, Spoonsy was 'skinned', not for the first time for their second goal.

Yesterday was a great team effort, but we are paying dearly for crass idiocy on signing policy, and only one man has the final say on that.
mortonjag 2007-09-30 11:48:35 I don't believe that either David McGregor, or Alex Walker is competent to play as a central defender in this division, as heading the ball is a weakness-especially in Alex's case. Technically I'd rate both as midfielders-both are creative on the ball, but guilty of lapses which can be fatal when you're the 'last man'. We just have FAR too many midfielders at the expense of everything else.
mortonjag 2007-09-30 11:52:43
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 30 2007, 11:28 AM) [snapback]340641[/snapback]
Does that mean if Gibbyton kills him you won't think about his friends and relatives? unsure.gif

Our thoughts are already with the Donkey Sanctuary.
mortonjag 2007-09-30 11:57:06
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 30 2007, 11:40 AM) [snapback]340646[/snapback]
"Applauds" Well done sir, whoever you are. Maybe they are making some porno movies next door.

More likely the Manky hound has just had his curiosity aroused by the guy next door assembling an Ikea wardrobe.
mortonjag 2007-09-30 12:01:05
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 30 2007, 11:56 AM) [snapback]340652[/snapback]
Any chance you could add Moronjag to that list ?

Nope-Gibby is one of my countless friends-you are welcome to mend your ways and join up!
mortonjag 2007-09-30 12:03:06
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 30 2007, 11:58 AM) [snapback]340654[/snapback]
the sspelling fairies are out again smile.gif

Fairy nuff-but it WAS Adrian-the perfect one!
mortonjag 2007-09-30 12:06:17
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 30 2007, 12:02 PM) [snapback]340656[/snapback]
You've got friends ? huh.gif

When did this happen ?

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Jealousy does not become you.
mortonjag 2007-09-30 12:46:06
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 30 2007, 12:33 PM) [snapback]340671[/snapback]
Well done, to some of the lads.

The team worked its socks off, but once again defensive frailty cost us dearly.
Must be a sickener when you have done your utmost to get something out of a game only for the ineptitude of 1 or 2 players to undo all the good work.

Hardings head is down, the argument of whether or not he is good enough doesn't come into it when you have a player so obviously lacking in confidence. He needs to be dropped to the reserves to see if he can get out of this rut. (I don't think he has recovered fully from his injury yet either)

Peters defensive qualities (or lack of) where also exposed yesterday as time and again he was caught wrong side when play went up his side of the park.
We pushed and pushed in the second half but apart from Temps shocking header it was all huff and puff with no end result.
I really don't know where we go from here, we don't have ready replacements, can't adapt the team, and with confidence taking a battering worrying times could be ahead. I suppose they will all just have to dig in there until we have all players fit again and see if we can then hold our own.

Jay Shields and Scott McLaughlin as full backs and we DO have plenty of midfielders. Sanny's proved to be an excellent 'target man', and we have Graham, Leafy, Spoonsy, and Bobby Linn to play off him. That leaves central defence where it's crystal clear that Stu and Hardy can't gel. I agree one may have to be dropped-arguably in favour of Spoonsy (shame I have to nominate 'the best striker at the club')-I'm just not sure which.
mortonjag 2007-09-30 12:53:22
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Sep 30 2007, 12:40 PM) [snapback]340677[/snapback]
Politics in social conversation should (and with most people is) a no-no and like religion, very personal. Unless you have the intelligence and class to handle it properly. This meaning being gracious enough to allow people their opinions and views without being rude and trying to force your views on them, if you do you've lost. That is what Despots do, oppress. smile.gif

Are you calling poor old hee haw a despot-bampot more like LL.
mortonjag 2007-09-30 12:57:35
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Sep 30 2007, 12:40 PM) [snapback]340676[/snapback]
Did he get animated at all yesterday or was he still like a picture postcard blink.gif

It was a total transformation-he was jumping around like a flea on 'E'----- AND havin' a go at the players and ref-I couldn't believe my eyes. What DID that old gentlemann say to him before the kick off? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-09-30 13:09:41
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 30 2007, 12:53 PM) [snapback]340689[/snapback]
Maybe I am misreading it and the central defenders are being made to look bad by poor fullback play? Comments?

One thing's for sure, big Stu would be much better on his own in the middle, with a Willie Miller type sweeper playing behind him-Stu is always 'all or nothing'-when he gets it right he's a big positive in the side, but his style often makes another central defender look daft and it's the latter who 'carries the can'. Harding is the footballer of the two, and a bloody good one when he's on song.
mortonjag 2007-09-30 13:18:12
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Sep 30 2007, 01:14 PM) [snapback]340719[/snapback]
Maybe a change of goalkeeper has caused disarray in the defence.

Shall I cast everyone's mind back 12months when we had McGurn in between the sticks and had one of the best defensive records in British football conceding only 11 goals in 13 games.

I'm not disappointed in young Robinson-I'd even say I was enthusiastic if he was really ours, but as I predicted it's just a repeat of the Gowsa scenario. Davie McGurn's a perfectly competent goalie, and he's being left to fester.
mortonjag 2007-09-30 13:25:03
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Sep 30 2007, 12:41 PM) [snapback]340678[/snapback]
How was The Ref yesterday ??

An officious baldy wee w*nker who noised both sides up and had Alex Rae fuming. He booked Spoonsy early on for a clumsy tackle, and then proceeded to let both sides off with murder at times.
mortonjag 2007-09-30 13:30:56 Many happy returns.

James Dean was killed on this day in 1955-if still alive, he'd be the same age as Shoogly.
mortonjag 2007-09-30 13:43:18 Guess so-I thought we'd see better refs in the First division-I appreciate they have a difficult job and will never please everybody, but some seem more interested in getting attention than anything else.
mortonjag 2007-09-30 14:07:47
QUOTE(Deego @ Sep 30 2007, 01:42 PM) [snapback]340748[/snapback]
Exactly why I don't want him here. dry.gif

So you'd bin Brian Graham too?
mortonjag 2007-09-30 17:06:38
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Sep 30 2007, 02:17 PM) [snapback]340761[/snapback]
Now that's stating the obvious wink.gif

...a dangerous thing to do when the Ton are signing players!
mortonjag 2007-09-30 17:13:13
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Sep 30 2007, 02:48 PM) [snapback]340764[/snapback]
They started moving Alex without putting a neck brace on him before he even regained conciousness...utter incompetence, could have left him paralysed if he had a broken vertebrae in his neck!

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mortonjag 2007-09-30 17:19:09
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 30 2007, 04:52 PM) [snapback]340800[/snapback]
Zing!!!!!!! laugh.gif

Bookies are greedy b*****ds!
mortonjag 2007-09-30 17:26:06
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 30 2007, 04:07 PM) [snapback]340778[/snapback]
I agree.

Personally, I'd have left her lying there - a sorry mess of hair, tits and spunk while I lay beside her sneering with satisfaction.

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Sounds like the Midden's post match bath.
mortonjag 2007-09-30 17:27:39
QUOTE(bettybo @ Sep 30 2007, 05:21 PM) [snapback]340808[/snapback]
Does anyone know the gate prices for tuesday night ?

He's selling the bloody gates next, and we thought Scott was bad.
mortonjag 2007-09-30 17:29:47
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 30 2007, 05:22 PM) [snapback]340810[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2007-09-30 17:32:37
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 30 2007, 04:51 PM) [snapback]340799[/snapback]
How can you catch the cold from each other?

Not put a lot of thought into that have you? wink.gif

You can, and it happens all the time-umpteen different varieties of the virus, all with similar symptoms.
mortonjag 2007-09-30 17:51:36
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Sep 30 2007, 05:42 PM) [snapback]340818[/snapback]
Give it a rest, you're driving us up the WALL!!

Really-how many of you are there down there on your wall?

If it's Mortonjag who annoys you-fine-if you think he's wrong you are a diddy!
mortonjag 2007-09-30 17:58:14
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 30 2007, 05:53 PM) [snapback]340824[/snapback]
Surely it's not as low as that? ohmy.gif

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he's takin' the piss
90% of Cellic fans VOTE-FFS 75% are illiterate! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-01 06:15:36 Harding is NOT a footballer of any description.


Greacen and Harding are liabilities and it seems that they take it in turns to sell the jerseys each week but I don't know what else we could do. At the moment Ryan Harding would be the player I would drop of the two.



Gentlemen, cool the beans-Ryan Harding is an excellent young footballer who is currently suffering from an acute exacerbation of quasi paranoid jayemophobia (QPJ)-he is not the first to have required treatment for this poorly understood condition-big Sanny had to be sent off to convalesce, and took ages to recover, Jamie Stevenson just can't shake off a milder dose, Alex Walker suffered a protracted bout last season, while Chris Millar, and Bobby Linn are currently under observation pending the outcome of tests.

The classical symptoms include lack of concentration, incoordination, poor communication, loss of interest, and mild depression. Fortunately the condition is not thought to have fatal consequences, though in some cases it is believed that the victim may only improve when removed fom the immediate environment.

It would appear that this bizarre affliction is passed on by a 'carrier' who is himself immune to infection by the source pathogen.
mortonjag 2007-10-01 06:33:47
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 30 2007, 06:31 PM) [snapback]340844[/snapback]
Wrong, there's quite a few Bawbags post on here.

But he's got a point, if your not gonna support the team why turn up ?

Bawbags perform an essential function-nae bawbags-nae baws.
mortonjag 2007-10-01 06:37:26
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 30 2007, 09:15 PM) [snapback]340908[/snapback]
Well I pay my money to watch Morton, not to put up with idiots shouting for non-existent penalties and demanding the referee's head on a pike whenever he gives a foul against us.
Should they be thrown out?
Imagine chucking Mortonjag onto the street like that. sad.gif

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Buy ear plugs.
mortonjag 2007-10-01 06:42:27
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Sep 30 2007, 09:48 PM) [snapback]340926[/snapback]
This notion sometimes pisses me off completely.....why should anyone MOVE away from those 'causing' a 'disturbance'?

I've been there, listening to some tosser spouting vile s***e from the back o the shed....not being happy..that one of our players who had only been on for less than 5 mins was to his utterance" ...s***e ya muppet...yer s***e", so he was duely told to f*** up or comeup with something a little more constructive, failing either option, f*** off himself....from then on he was very quiet......

I understand people can get heated in something they believe in, some thing they follow, for what they want to see succeed...everyone is entitlied to their opinions....as long as it doesnt get personal I believe...as long as your not stalking them out in the dark of midnight in their garden waiting for them to come home to ring it out full blast with a PA speaker...

If we were to have a more successful team, the complaints wouldnt stop....na, they would only become OF sized idiollogies of grandure, something of which some fans have on a small small scale just now. The will to see our team do well has been overtaken at times and replaced with complacency,on both sides of the field I reckon, fans and players alike...and at times like this we all need to get behind the squad, the squad need realise too that we want them to succeed, to some folk, morton is all that they may have for 90mins plus on a pishy saturday..or mibies at all....

I believe we should ALWAYS be behind the guys on the pitch-they are answerable to their employer, while HE is answerable to US.
mortonjag 2007-10-01 06:46:35
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Oct 1 2007, 12:07 AM) [snapback]340970[/snapback]
Come ThornTON they're volunteers because Morton won't pay the full costs.

I was also shocked at their performance against St. J, but after reading the comments on here thought they deserved a pat on the back.

Exactly Willow-those guys are what they are-they are trained to a certain level and accept that-they ain't wannabe neurosurgeons like Chocolate Boy! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-01 06:59:45 Twenty five years ago the Cellic Chairman was a DR Kelly (he of Glasgow smiles better), and now they have DR Reid (he of Tony's miles better).

What is it with those tims and their quacks?
mortonjag 2007-10-01 07:06:29 The Monkey has spoken.
mortonjag 2007-10-01 11:02:16
QUOTE(Lindberg6 @ Oct 1 2007, 09:13 AM) [snapback]340987[/snapback]
The issue seems to be when Harding and Greacen play together - in the past Harding has always had his best games when he has played alongside someone other than Greacen.

I think Tonsilitis is spot on with his initial post as I still believe we have a problem with Weatherson at right back. After he got booked within the first 15 minutes on Saturday I would have moved him away from full back.....he couldn't go near Swankie and that was demonstrated at their goal when he made a pathetic excuse for a tackle.....I'd hoped the manager would change it before it actually cost us a goal but alas no.

I'd agree with Tonsilitis that it may be time to move Weatherson into centre half as in my opinion (as much as I like Weatherson) he is being badly exposed in this division.

If we hadn't signed Leafy Russell, I'd be arguing strongly that he partner Sanny up front, but that, allied to young Graham breaking through, and Gardyne in the wings, means he either has to sharpen up or consider the possibility of becoming a sub, which I believe would be a huge waste of one of our best footballers.

That said, Stu and Hardy just can't play together, whereas Spoonsy has previously been OK alongside the latter. It's a bit of a conundrum-we should definitely have signed another centre back for the 'step up' IMO.
mortonjag 2007-10-01 19:53:20
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 1 2007, 05:38 PM) [snapback]341142[/snapback]
But will the monkey be speaking over Dougie when he gives McInally the team talk . rolleyes.gif

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Sedition Sir!
mortonjag 2007-10-01 20:01:11
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Oct 1 2007, 11:35 AM) [snapback]341021[/snapback]
Agree with that - I'd like to see Stu with an experienced cental defender beside him in the Miller/ Duffy/ Hunter vein, who could sweep up the invitable missed headers that you will always get from Graecen. Those guys are in short supply though.

Harding looks low in confidence just now.

Is it possible that they are just playing the wrong system? Instead of playing a flat back 4, how about Harding (McLaughlin?) dropping into a sweeping role, letting big Stu do what he does best - attack the ball?

I commented more than once last season that Scott reads the game very early and tracks back quickly. I suggested he could play a 'sweeper' role, and now that there's even more competition in midfield, it's a realistic option for him IMO.
mortonjag 2007-10-01 20:03:01
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 1 2007, 05:50 PM) [snapback]341145[/snapback]
According to today's Scottish Sun, the Morton manager is the one and only:

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDAccording to the same article both Managers thought Finnie was utter crap.
mortonjag 2007-10-01 20:05:44
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 1 2007, 12:25 PM) [snapback]341040[/snapback]
Toby - I hate to crush your dreams but as long as Mr Rae's at Morton we could have umpteen new managers and nothing will significantly improve.

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mortonjag 2007-10-01 20:11:12
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Oct 1 2007, 02:05 PM) [snapback]341070[/snapback]
Sorry Toby, dont agree mate. Tell me who we could get in to do a better job?
I personally have no time for people shouting at players/management. Iwouldnt like an amateur to come into my workplace and try to tell me my job!
PADDY

You might not like it Paddy, but if you were a rank awful Professional, folk who had been observing your job done properly elsewhere might be excused for raising an eyebrow! wink.gif

Come to think of it, if they were paying money to see your abysmal efforts, they might even be pardoned for raising both.
mortonjag 2007-10-02 06:02:53 I'd freshen things up a bit

McGurn
Shields Weatherson Harding McLaughlin
McAlister Stevenson Gardyne McAnespie

Templeman Graham

Plenty of time for tactical changes as the game progresses! I've seleced that side on the basis of trying to keep it tight at the back, while still having scoring options.


mortonjag 2007-10-02 06:05:16 I just can't see the Saints failing to net. I predict a highish scoring game with us shading it 3-2 AET.
mortonjag 2007-10-02 06:17:14
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Oct 1 2007, 08:30 PM) [snapback]341211[/snapback]
I quite like that idea of Big Greacen as the traditional centre half and McLaughlin sweeping behind. When you think of some of the very successful sweepers we have had - guys like Jim Hunter, Jim Duffy, etc - they were not big bruisers and had similar physiques to McLaughlin.

My only reservation is whether the sweeper system would work in the modern game.

I guess that depends on the definition of the 'Modern game'. Big Stu's always going to make his runs early-it's the only way he knows how to play, and the First Division's not exactly Serie A.

Harding, on the other hand, is far more comfortable reading the game alongside another of like mind - as a twin centre back. If we could approach each game on the basis of the opposition's attacking style, the team could be varied to suit.
mortonjag 2007-10-02 06:21:02
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Oct 1 2007, 10:57 PM) [snapback]341284[/snapback]
You must have been spying on me at my work Dr! biggrin.gif

Wood eye bee sew knotty?
mortonjag 2007-10-02 06:29:52 I predicted a 7th spot, and having got over (to some degree) my utter disgust at, and disparagement of the inexplicable catalogue of apparent mistruths throughout the closed season, I'm trying to be as positive as possible

I always said two or three judicious signings could see us challenge for promotion, and I stand by that. They didn't come, though the eleventh hour additions of Gardyne and Russell have strengthened options up front.

I'm NOT JM bashing here-we've played pretty well in quite a few matches and not had great luck, but IF we signed the right man NOW, and gave him time to work on the January transfer window, we could still end up near the top.

I'm entirely confident we won't be relegated.
mortonjag 2007-10-02 06:53:53
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Oct 1 2007, 10:24 PM) [snapback]341272[/snapback]
Just came back from my holiday to find some wee kn** head has run his key down the side of my door not once, not twice but 3 times, scunnered!

I need to get the door re-sprayed, can anyone suggest if they have had this done before and where i could maby take it to. Also cost wise if anyone knows what a door would cost to be sprayed.

Cheers

Depends on the age of your car and the model-if it's pretty new, go to a local guy to get the work done-I used a chap in Greenock two years ago and he did a good job-I can fish out his details if you want.

If it's an older car you'd probably be cheaper going on line to scrapyards for a replacement door of the same colour. Paint jobs aint cheap!
mortonjag 2007-10-02 07:02:42 A very important day today for all our Jewish Ton fans.

Also the birthday of King Richard 3rd, who had his head chopped off, and 'No Soap in Greenock', who may well have suffered the same fate.
mortonjag 2007-10-02 07:08:30 Mr Brown was responsible for doubling council tax, destroying pensions, overseeing an explosion of debt and selling Britain's gold reserves for a pittance.

He was a master of "trickery and deceit", who would employ every "cynical contrivance" in the book and was a "shameless peddler of propaganda". If that was not enough, Mr Duncan , to rousing cheers, insisted: "Our honesty will triumph over his deceit."

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mortonjag 2007-10-02 07:58:55
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 2 2007, 07:54 AM) [snapback]341332[/snapback]
A wee bit - the Thistle game on Saturday has become a must-win: with Stirling playing Clyde a defeat could knock us int the bottom two.
6 games without a win is terrible, no matter how much we are perceived to be unlucky at the moment.

Correct, AND we could be fourth on Satuday evening, in addition to our still relishing tonight's cup victory.
mortonjag 2007-10-02 08:09:02
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Oct 2 2007, 02:45 AM) [snapback]341321[/snapback]
You've got guys like Brian Carrigan playing for Linlithgow Rose, he could play in the 1st division easily.

The bigger junior teams are loaded and pay players a fortune through signing on fees, holidays, cars and wages that aren't exactly by the book.

In today's Sun Bill Leckie talks about Juniors affording players senior teams cant afford and paying 'Sammy Striker' money 'siphoned from Social club puggies'.

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'Gordon Goalie' gold garnered from Social Club gargles!!
mortonjag 2007-10-02 10:19:35
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 2 2007, 08:57 AM) [snapback]341339[/snapback]
The mad Doctor's diagnosis, prescribed treatment and prognosis, all very concise indeed. If I was the patient, I would demand a second opinion.

Ha DE-if you could speak to a few of the patients you'd probably not need one! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-02 10:24:44
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Oct 2 2007, 09:34 AM) [snapback]341346[/snapback]
WHO ARE YOU?

AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH MORTONJAG?

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Indeed our erstwhile esteemed Chairman can not be held responsible for a few malcontents venting their juvenile spleen on the best efforts of his players, when he should be the target of all complaints!
mortonjag 2007-10-02 10:28:54
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 2 2007, 08:48 AM) [snapback]341337[/snapback]
Interesting.
A fitting fate for Dick the third, or anyone who would rule over others absolutely. I would however, tend towards clemency for 'No Soap'. Forgive him, for he knows not what he does (or doesn't, for that matter) And it's a good day for atonement, especially for Mr McInally. He can start by 'masterminding' a win over St Johnstone.

For which he'll get due credit!
mortonjag 2007-10-02 13:36:07
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 2 2007, 01:28 PM) [snapback]341423[/snapback]
Doesn't matter, we've got no one else so we should be getting behind him. He's shown good form in spells and with a bit of confidence can def improve on his current form.

Added to that he's been playing with an injury, so obviously trying his best under difficult circumstances. Won't do the team any good to shout at him during a game.
Aye very good. My reasoned argument is that it doesn't help to shout abuse at players.

I let slip at Deego as he has had a couple of real shockers in terms of creating topics that don't exist - '6 players out of position' after the St Johnstone game took the biscuit.

Added to this, all this 'TTG' stuff is ridiculously petty. Jim aint going anywhere, and anyone can see the improvement we have shown in the last few weeks.
Christ look at the two Dundee games? 1st time we were nowhere - then 6 weeks or so later we are unlucky not to have won it.

If you don't want Jim as manager of your club, then perhaps you should be supporting a different club.

Which is why some folks are getting edgy!
mortonjag 2007-10-02 13:38:56 lang may yer lum reek an aw Alibi! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-02 13:50:44
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 2 2007, 01:39 PM) [snapback]341431[/snapback]
Wouldn't be so sure.

It's only rumour (again) but I heard that if we'd lost to St Johnstone and Dundee in the league Jim was out a job.

A cup final place would no doubt see him by Christmas.

It's only a matter of time til he goes as crowds continue to dwindle.

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You misinterpreted

Jim ISN'T going anywhere-hasn't been for almost three seasons-hence he MAY, as you suggest be on the move soon!
mortonjag 2007-10-02 14:01:57
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Oct 2 2007, 01:52 PM) [snapback]341444[/snapback]
No seriously - that is absolutely the worst pun in the history of this board. And trust me, for the s***e talked on here over the years that's some achievement ! laugh.gif

TonInDublin

Might have guessed yid say that TID.
mortonjag 2007-10-02 14:10:33
QUOTE(Lord Haw haw @ Oct 2 2007, 01:34 PM) [snapback]341426[/snapback]
I can just imagine you dressed up in a skirt.

No manners and no doubt a drunk all to happy to expose oneself.

Rule Britannia and Long Live The Queen.

GBHM.

hee haw-if wee betty snuffs it tonight will you be at the funeral, or will you still be heavy breathing and spunking over your 'made in China' keyboard to the tune of 'God Save the King', after watching her Muppet son's fake grief on the telly?
mortonjag 2007-10-02 14:30:32 Just checked 'Club News' on GMFC-no MENTION of tonight's game (though if you were a St Johnstone fan and had checked 'Commercial News' by mistake, you'd have discovered you can sit bored to tears at Shoogly's right hand for £30.
mortonjag 2007-10-02 14:35:21
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 2 2007, 02:25 PM) [snapback]341455[/snapback]
Well obviously we're never going to agree. Jim has shown in the last two games we have a very competitive squad at this level, and with a few more breaks will definately pick up points in a very tight league.

It seems you want Jim out the door and don't care what is happening on the park. Also, it seems that nothing that happens on the park will make you change your mind.

The TTG is completely pathetic, especially when using the phrase 'we'll do everything we can to get him out the door'.

Not at all in Morton's best inerests.

Hey Prof, do you reckon Jim's just delaying the promotion surge to keep us on tenterhooks for yet another season?

What a card-that JM! wub.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-02 14:41:09
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Oct 2 2007, 02:36 PM) [snapback]341460[/snapback]
I think the 2nd one looks worse blink.gif

It was a crap scuff of a shot that looked easy enough to just scoop off the line unsure.gif

Was that Walker / Harding / both at fault there?

Stop the mischief young man-we have a cup tie tonight-Dundee missed a couple of chances to 'bury' us on Saturday, and Sanny missed a great chance for us-that's football!!
mortonjag 2007-10-02 15:01:55
QUOTE(Jocky Wilson @ Oct 2 2007, 02:37 PM) [snapback]341462[/snapback]
So would you say you are happy weith what is going on, on the pitch? With our last league victory way back at the second game of the season?

Any fan could see that the defence was a nightmare at times and competiton was needed. Did Jim address this problem? - NO

Midfield also needed a player that could get his foot on the ball, McInnes showed what we need. Did Jim sign anyone? - NO

Up-front was an issue. We left it until the last minute to sign players, why did we not to it at the begining of the season? SUrley would have benefited Brchin more at the begining of season as they could have sourced a replacement
,

Under his management, we will forever be one game away from a crisis.

If McInally is so wonderful, what is his prefered starting 11? formation? How many must win games has he produced the goods? I can think of Peterhead, Stirling and Raith as a few of the times he has bottled it big time.

TTG

In fairness to the manager, it would appear that's Geppeto's senile obsession with Gowsa possibly got in the way of many other things 'til it was almost too late.

Sure, the little wooden one's nose lengthened considerably from the end of last season 'til the transfer window closed, but as he said three years ago

If you pay me not too badly
I'll gladly be there
Like a Muppet in the Spring etc.
mortonjag 2007-10-02 15:05:28
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Oct 2 2007, 03:03 PM) [snapback]341478[/snapback]
I'm going to hospitality tonight and I understand from Susan that there's still availability if anyone fancies. Its only £30 so your meal etc is costing £16 as this is a non season ticket game anyway. Good value and good fun usually.

Susie charges fourteen quid a time! ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-02 15:07:39
QUOTE(lush @ Oct 2 2007, 12:59 PM) [snapback]341411[/snapback]
He is not short, i keep teeling you, he told me he is over 6 feet tall and rich and handsome. rolleyes.gif

If he's rich Lush, I'd just go for broke.
mortonjag 2007-10-02 15:09:58
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Oct 2 2007, 03:08 PM) [snapback]341481[/snapback]
Aye, with a meal thrown in. Good value. wink.gif

She's surely hugely accommodating!
mortonjag 2007-10-02 15:14:51 It's indeed in the 'archives' and in 'next match', but those are aimed at Ton supporters. All I meant was that folk 'not in the know' who planned going tonight would probably expect something in 'Club News'.
mortonjag 2007-10-02 15:18:00
QUOTE(Jocky Wilson @ Oct 2 2007, 03:12 PM) [snapback]341488[/snapback]
It is results that matter!

Well that's what I was told repeatedly last season by JM's men, when I complained about lack of entertainment. Mind you I really HAVE enjoyed this season much better, even without those results!
mortonjag 2007-10-02 15:23:23
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Oct 2 2007, 03:10 PM) [snapback]341486[/snapback]
Telegraph says Harding has knock and Walker will move to central defence with McLaughlin at left back.

I think Harding's injury may be a euphemism for dropped!

Not happy at all if that's the case-Alex has been playing well, but PLEASE, not in central defence against St Johnstone-his heading has improved, but is still his weakest point IMO
mortonjag 2007-10-02 15:25:20
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Oct 2 2007, 03:19 PM) [snapback]341496[/snapback]
I am saying no more. The last time I joked about our great Cappielow staff i got hung, drawn, and quartered by people who don't even know me sad.gif

Was it intentional?
mortonjag 2007-10-02 16:11:04
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 2 2007, 03:29 PM) [snapback]341500[/snapback]
Yeah if I was 'not in the know' and going to the next match at Cappielow I deffinately would not look for the information in the 'next match' section dry.gif

OK Puggs-so you're computer literate and used to drop down menus etc. If you actually look at all the 'listings' it just isn't there-it's hiding on the other side of the page., under a league table and next to a fotie.
mortonjag 2007-10-02 16:17:31
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 2 2007, 02:54 PM) [snapback]341470[/snapback]
You mean this kind of waistcoat? (expertly modelled by a drunk me at Cowal)

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI do love the spiky sporran!
mortonjag 2007-10-02 16:20:26
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Oct 2 2007, 04:18 PM) [snapback]341515[/snapback]
laugh.gif Nope.

Didn't think you'd go canvassing for death by keyboard!
mortonjag 2007-10-03 05:53:20
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Oct 3 2007, 12:50 AM) [snapback]341864[/snapback]
That question i may say, should be a case of does DDR want to have a club as that big drop in a home game, a semi final to be precise, is showing strain from the fans

Sort it out Dougie or sell the club to someone who wont interfere unless its entirely neccessary


Someone like this?


"We had to make the judgment as to whether we could win the league with that style and, if so, whether it was worth losing something of the soul of Ross County. We want to win the league and do it with a bit of panache and style. We are a full-time team who, in my opinion, have the best players in the league and we've always been a club who've tried to entertain.

"Some people will say it is a strange decision when we are top of the league. However, I can assure the supporters and everyone connected to the club that this was done for the good of Ross County. Some may not understand the decision immediately, but I hope they will come to."

From today's 'Herald' as Dick Campbell leaves another club.
mortonjag 2007-10-03 06:20:31 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


The truth is dawning-the anger is being turned away from those who predicted this some considerable time back!
I know how JM feels this morning!


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mortonjag 2007-10-03 06:23:07
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Oct 2 2007, 04:32 PM) [snapback]341520[/snapback]
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Got myself pole axed, then into a flap

How much more rope will that JM guy get after last night?
mortonjag 2007-10-03 06:24:49
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Oct 2 2007, 11:36 PM) [snapback]341818[/snapback]
It's the flamimg Monkey that gets on my Bananas laugh.gif

How dare you criticise my sweet little boy-he has much vision!
mortonjag 2007-10-03 06:29:41
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Oct 2 2007, 06:21 PM) [snapback]341547[/snapback]
Ain't seen any 9-1 games so far - that's entertainment wink.gif

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It should have been 15-0-we f***ed up as usual-and Greacen taking that penalty at a stage in the season where goal difference could still have decided it was a piece of nonsense. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-03 06:37:17
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Oct 2 2007, 11:42 PM) [snapback]341822[/snapback]
blank looks rolleyes.gif

Edit to add:
Are you one of those aesthetes who think that poetry is stuff like
"There was a young lady from Cork.."

who was screwed by a 'pig' at her work.
Of her itchy red f*nny
old doctor Panjani
said, 'Look like reaction to pork'. happy.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-03 06:47:16
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 2 2007, 05:21 PM) [snapback]341534[/snapback]
What is your screen resolution set at? I don't have to scroll or adjust the loading page at all to find the next match thing!

It is right there, c'mon now your trying to find faults that clearly don't exist wink.gif

Just as I ALWAYS do! rolleyes.gif


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mortonjag 2007-10-03 06:48:51
QUOTE(princessTON @ Oct 2 2007, 10:24 PM) [snapback]341696[/snapback]
aye nae bother....shel demand a packet of rich tea biscuits and an endless supply of cups of tea wink.gif

No change then.
mortonjag 2007-10-03 06:50:32
QUOTE(AndyRitchie @ Oct 3 2007, 12:21 AM) [snapback]341841[/snapback]
Thats a great idea and another recipe for disaster. Take one dull and inexperienced guy and make him the manager of Morton, chop him now hes baked. Remedy, take another dull and inexperienced guy and follow the previous method.
No thanks, get an experienced manager in that knows the game.

And is intelligent enough to let Shoogly believe he's still calling the shots.
mortonjag 2007-10-03 06:58:48 If anybody wants an answer to this just read the latest episode of 'Life on a Shoogly peg'-one wee gem here-


'Morton were awarded a free kick some thirty five yards out, up stepped Jamie, and 'Whiz bang' his free kick raged into the St.Johnstone net, which caused an immediate re-awakenig of our support, while the Saints support could not believe that a stripling like Jamie could engender such power and accuracy from all of thirty five yards'.

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mortonjag 2007-10-03 07:04:06
QUOTE(AndyRitchie @ Oct 3 2007, 01:35 AM) [snapback]341880[/snapback]
Dougie Rae has invested a lot of money into Morton and i am sure everyone is grateful for what he has done. It does get to a stage when you may have done all you can at a club and its simply time to move on. We now have no youth policy, a poor manager and a Chairman who takes forever to act on situations. This has been the case with previous managers and players and Dougie just does not seem to take it on board. I know the "Dougie Saved Morton" fans will be on to this like a flash but its got to be said.

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mortonjag 2007-10-03 07:06:03
QUOTE(K P Low @ Oct 2 2007, 10:59 PM) [snapback]341779[/snapback]
To be fair to McInally at least he's consistent, this comment could be said about 7 or 8 of our first team....

Taxi for McInally then? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-03 07:10:36 Sorry guys but I'm really enjoying 'pay off' time.

Seems only yesterday that I was getting the usual verbals with the MAJORITY of posters ageeing that Spoonsy was an excellent right back-and what was an old c*nt like me doing thinking I knew better than JM and the player himself! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-03 07:16:36
QUOTE(Rossco @ Oct 3 2007, 12:42 AM) [snapback]341855[/snapback]
Is there a need for all the threads maybe it is time for Jim to go but he is not the only one who should be going time for Dougie to step aside I think he is the one who was willing to increase offer for McGowan when the deal fell through should have offered the money on offer to McInally to really improve the squad & he didnt.

Im not McInallys biggest fan & cant comment on tonights game as wasnt there.

Most people have stated time & time again on here that they couldnt care less if this cup was scrapped so now why after a defeat in this cup has the calls for McInally's head been increased ?

There is so much negativity at the moment & its almost as if some people are wanting Morton to get beat so can run home from cappielow to post how much they want McInally out.

What the team need just now is a bit of calm but to be honest dont see McInally lasting to Christmas.

Whatever think about McInally is irrelevant should get behind the players on Saturday.

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Just a tad more than before!


It was ALWAYS positivity-Rae's failings are eventually being recognised as the majority sleekitly and unapologetically removes its brown tongue from his ageing rectum.
mortonjag 2007-10-03 07:21:18
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Oct 2 2007, 10:54 PM) [snapback]341766[/snapback]
I think you're going far too far with the hate nonsense. He's clearly got his faults but he's not picking himself every week.

The scabs have healed?
mortonjag 2007-10-03 07:24:56 Listen guys-what is it with this HATE stuff? We're going through a sticky patch-the Shoogly Show is havin' its last night stand, and hopefully things can only get better. It's not the fault of individual players who are simply doing their best.
mortonjag 2007-10-03 07:40:06 Well! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-03 07:56:07
QUOTE(Youngsa @ Oct 3 2007, 07:33 AM) [snapback]341909[/snapback]
MJ, I'm suprised that its taken this long for people to start seeing that McInally is not up to the job - the only problem is, how long will it take Dougie to see it? sad.gif

I honestly believe that Rae MUST be starting to see a problem when he only rakes in 1800 for a game described thus in his 'Shoogly Peg' notes-

'This draw should bring out a large crowd......Let's hope so-will you be at the game........I know that the Rangers match is being played on the same evening...surely Morton supporters are not going to Boycott our match so that they can watch the Rangers game?


Why not record the Rangers game, come to Cappielow, and watch the Rangers match, if you must, some time later'.

Those were the words of our 'experienced businessman' Chairman!!! sleep.gif


mortonjag 2007-10-03 07:59:26
QUOTE(simplyton @ Oct 3 2007, 07:56 AM) [snapback]341912[/snapback]
We always knew Mcinally wasn't up the job - It was the way MJ went about his business that was the problem - Every thread was brought grinding to a halt like we were going to listen to him more if he posted the same rantings on every thread

I said before I agree with the overall principle of what MJ was saying but he seemed to have personal agendas (I dont know any background other than the "yawn" Webstergate) against Mr Rae

As for Weatherson - I've been saying all along that he isn't a right back and I dont believe he has any place in the team as he is a jack of all trades and a master of none.

I think most folk would agree that the starting line-up last night was the one which most would have picked but the positions would have been entirely different - I assume Scotty was at left back because he wasn't deemed ready for CM and I also take it that Keiron was also not ready for a start

LIAR
mortonjag 2007-10-03 08:08:34
QUOTE(lush @ Oct 2 2007, 09:38 PM) [snapback]341646[/snapback]
I have and it is.

I can't see the problem-it's a young lady with white stuff on her face-I think it looks like toothpaste, though it could really be anything -well almost anything-

Guess the answer might be 'Blowin' in the wind'.
mortonjag 2007-10-03 08:16:00 Clydebank is no worse and no better than any West of Scotland industrial town-though one well known scheme is almost a 'no go' area for the polis.
mortonjag 2007-10-03 08:41:08
QUOTE(simplyton @ Oct 3 2007, 08:23 AM) [snapback]341918[/snapback]
Yes cos only MJ can tell it like it is

Unfortuantely I dont have transcript of conversations and emails to back up my claim but then who does?

Are you just ACTING the goat-I wasn't referring to Stan Webster-I highlighted your relevant comment, and I DO have access to everything that was posted at the time of the 'Taxi' thread! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-03 08:44:28
QUOTE(Rodder @ Oct 3 2007, 08:29 AM) [snapback]341920[/snapback]
I believe Morton will have a keeper on trial over the next few days.

We should never have got into a situation where if one was injured we had nobody to fall back on in the event of a further injury or red card. Nothing EVER seems to get done at Cappielow 'til the problems been staring them in the face for ages. Too busy making sweeties and excuses perhaps.
mortonjag 2007-10-03 09:36:23
QUOTE(simplyton @ Oct 3 2007, 09:11 AM) [snapback]341933[/snapback]
Please point me in the direction of this info that proves me a liar or take the comment back

'We always knew Mcinally wasn't up the job' is exactly what you said-if you did not mean to suggest you were speaking for 'the rest' as distinct from me, you might have said-

'I always knew',..... and just to pre-empt your claim that I'm splitting hairs-I'm not.

I get totaly pissed off with posters who 'speak for everyone'.

To return to your point about the way I 'kept going on about things'-I didn't. Every time I made a valid point-most of which have been proven with time-I was attacked, often bitterly, scathingly and offensively by a varying number of posters, and if you think Mortonjag will ever 'shut up' when he's attacked by obvious Muppets, he won't. That's probably the least of his many faults, and that's why my signature reads..
mortonjag 2007-10-03 09:50:51
QUOTE(Benny Boy @ Oct 3 2007, 09:31 AM) [snapback]341945[/snapback]
This thread is simply a shocker and reveals the total stupidity of the poster.

As simplyton asks, who do you suggest takes over? Roman Abramovich? The Sultan of Brunei?

A little history lesson for you, AndyRitchie: Dougie Rae is the ONLY chairman in Morton's 133-year history who has invested a single penny of his own money in the club.

He is also honest, which cannot be said for the previous incumbants, Peden and Scott, and is ambitious, which cannot be said for Wilson, Macpherson, Currie et al.

We should be very grateful for Dougie because, with him, we are heading for the SPL, albeit we might have to get a manager in first who is capable of signing some experienced players and then playing them in a settled formation.

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'Vaulting ambition that o'er leaps itself'!

A little history lesson for you-those who have not learned from bitter experience have been condemned to relive it.

'We are heading for the SPL' laugh.gif WTF are you on this morning-the early shift stirring the Fudgy Wudgy pot I'd guess. sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-03 10:07:31
QUOTE(simplyton @ Oct 3 2007, 09:51 AM) [snapback]341964[/snapback]
I was actually speaking for myself and my Dad (who does not post of this forum) - WE (that is me and my Dad not the collective Morton support) always knew........
Therefore I was speaking for myself and my Dad who is unable to post on this forum

Please explain exactly how exactly I am a liar?

As for going on about things - While I (ME) can only speak for those 10 or so people who I(ME) have spoken to regarding the issue many (more than 1, as many as 10) have reduced their access to the messageboard because of what THEY (as in some, more than 1 less than 10) refer to as the MortonJAG show which resulted in every thread being side tracked by yourself or indeed someone having a pop at you

I (as in ME) know that I certain reduced the amount of time I (ME again) spent on here

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Aw the shame.

Does yer anonymous Dad-the other half of your Royal 'We'- still change yer nappies. You appear to be an immature little boy who can't accept the wisdom of his elders, and goes (like the other ten or so disciples) off in the huff when bad big Mortonjag tells the truth.

AND

'WE all knew' on a forum clearly suggests that the poster is representing all but the person to whom he is replying-in that context you were a

LIAR
mortonjag 2007-10-03 10:15:00
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Oct 3 2007, 10:12 AM) [snapback]341978[/snapback]
There's about 15 easily available managers with good experience, excellent vocabulary, great tactical skill and superb man management skills. Not only that but they will pick the precise players the fans want to see starting each game, make the same substitutions the fans want to see and play the formation the fans want as well. I'm sure some of these names will start gatting mentioned on this thread today. Won't they?

I guess that attitude is typified by your wee picture-didn't you try the handle? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-03 17:41:16
QUOTE(simplyton @ Oct 3 2007, 10:16 AM) [snapback]341981[/snapback]
Sorry to split hairs MJ but I said We always knew entirely different from We all knew - Wouldn't you agree?

My Dad is far from anonymous - he can be seen centre off the shed at every home game does not change my nappies and that is a rather strange question to ask on a football forum.

I may be immature - You would be in a position to judge that would you? but I can certainly accept the wisdom of my elders what I cant accept is posters who jump down people throats with name calling etc. and in the same breath complain about receiving the same treatment

Again I ask (as you have in many of you post please answer the original question) [b]How am I a liar?[/b]

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Whether it was 'WE always', or 'WE all', your choice of words suggested that you were speaking for the rest of the posters. As you clearly were not, you appeared to be lying. Now if you REALLY can accept the wisdom of your elder, I shall hear no more from you on this topic.
mortonjag 2007-10-03 17:46:08
QUOTE(Dougie @ Oct 3 2007, 12:32 PM) [snapback]342048[/snapback]
I dislike JM intensly and I have a personal reason for that as is well known. So whats the script with you and DDF?Why must every single thread come back to him? Quite frankly I am amazed that you don't blame him for the war in Iraq or the mounting drug problem in Inverclyde because you can not help yourself but spout p*** about him thirty times a day. Whats wrong did he fire you as a child? steal the love of your life? or is it just he is a dithering old man who has achieved something where as you are a dithering old man with hee haw better to do with your life but slander someone on an internet forum.

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Would you now like to ask a serious question?
mortonjag 2007-10-03 17:58:54
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Oct 3 2007, 04:55 PM) [snapback]342167[/snapback]
I have to chuckle. We lose the semi-final of the Challenge Cup and the board must go! We have had a distinctly mediocre and ultimately disappointing run in the league so far with two league wins and two draws to our name out of eight games, which is, as I said before, mediocre. It is not the end of the world, we have had a good run in the Challenge Cup ended last night by the side that will probably win it and who thumped the league leaders 4-1 at the weekend. Supporters will need to get used to the fact that we probably will lose more games than we win this year, it is part and parcel of moving up a division. However, we must remember that this league is the tightest in Scotland with us able to leapfrog Partick Thistle (in fourth) with a victory on Saturday. I would suggest though that failure to beat Thistle on Saturday would leave even the most diligent supporter a little disillusioned with our start to the season.

All this talk of the Chairman meddling with the team selection is unfounded rumour and nothing more. The chairman's actions at the helm have had general success: employing the groundstaff and sanctioning the drainage of the pitch several years ago which has left us with one of the best surfaces in the country (much kudos to Mark Farrell et al), buying the club new training facilities in Quarriers which are excellent, improving the flood lighting on both the stand and the terraces, building an excellent reputation for our hospitality (again with help from the other staff), seating the Cowshed in parts, sanctioning large transfer fees and maintaining the club's full-time status etc etc.

Of course there are areas which need improving: the well-documented instability of our youth set-up, sometimes a lack of communication over important matters and introducing Cappie the Cat to the world etc etc

But to suggest sacking the board after a couple of defeats in a row is ridiculous (especially considering the opposition) and unnecessary.

I hope the players and staff respond in the best way possible with a victory over Thistle at the weekend.

You are clearly suggesting he does not-unless you can prove that, you are just playing 'devil's advocate' in the face of a very strong suspicion, backed up by comments from ex players.

Rae cannot keep his finger out of anything at Cappielow. I'd also like concrete evidence to prove me wrong there.
mortonjag 2007-10-03 18:19:34
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Oct 3 2007, 11:59 AM) [snapback]342031[/snapback]
I know the place very well puggsy, used to stay in Drumry ( for a very short period mind you ). That place to me is worse than any estate here in Inverclyde.

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Drumry's paradise compared to 'The Faifley' Gibby. I've not been on an estate in Inverclyde recently-sounds like they've come on in leaps and bounds! wink.gif

Perhaps the demise of Clydebank F.C. and the comparative resurgence of GMFC could be the reason for this paradox.
mortonjag 2007-10-03 18:32:16 So far as I can see, the guys are all doing their jobs as best they can. Nobody seems happy with the present situation at Cappielow - I've made my feelings known once or twice too, but I honestly feel that the current pastime of player baiting is 'below the belt'.

It's a bit like what you see and hear any time you're in a busy bank-always some frustrated customer ripping a poor wee teller to shreds as if he/she was to blame for the deliberate and cynical lack of service designed to line the pockets of a self interested Board of Directors.

We have a reasonable squad-we are not miles off a good squad at First Division level, and the reasons for the current problems are well known.

I'd suggest that true Ton supporters should not be shooting the 'messengers'. Crass incompetence elsewhere is to blame.

mortonjag 2007-10-03 18:37:31
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 3 2007, 06:30 PM) [snapback]342225[/snapback]
Most of the polls on here are pointless.

Generally because they ask stupid questions which are designed to prove the point of the poster.

I glanced at one earlier (think it was MJ's) with about 6 different options, none particualrly exclusive of the other. Polls like that are pointless.

Would you like me to design a new ultra scientific one Procrustes?
I was thinking along the lines of-

Is Professor Piehole a self satified little c*nt?

YES

NO

Comments welcome but liable to be removed by the Mods.
mortonjag 2007-10-03 18:40:24 HOOKED-could 'ave guessed it would be you!!!!!!!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-03 18:43:26
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Oct 3 2007, 06:39 PM) [snapback]342235[/snapback]
Even then we bottled it the one game we had to win to win the league - lucky Stirling done the same.

If they had won that day how nervous would everyone have been?

They didn't look up for that either, another lack of motivation (possibly a key word for our lads just now), and Raith showed up where we needed work on - defence and central midfield. Still nothing has been done to solve that problem, I'm sure a few will agree after that game against St Johnstone that they are not as strong as last season but we are even worse off.

Jim McInally is now being found out and shouldn't have long to go. And good riddance if he does dry.gif

Surely JM is just another employee who's been doing his best!
mortonjag 2007-10-03 18:47:15
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 3 2007, 06:26 PM) [snapback]342222[/snapback]
Seems like my point has been proved.

Two good performances and everyone goes a bit quiet, then a bad second half and the vultures circle once more.

That Sir will be a fitting epitaph on your 'Pauper's gravestone'.


Edited for the benefit of Sweet Trumpet.
mortonjag 2007-10-03 18:48:45
QUOTE(Deego @ Oct 3 2007, 06:45 PM) [snapback]342239[/snapback]
Am I the only one that thinks he isn't good enough? Aye he can tackle, but what else can he do?

Eat you up for breakfast probably!

Lay off the players FFS!
mortonjag 2007-10-03 18:58:39
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Oct 3 2007, 06:48 PM) [snapback]342241[/snapback]
Is there anything, as you put it, "concrete" to suggest that it is the case? I honestly do not know all the ins and outs of Cappielow and there will be better people in the know, but asking supporters to trust judgement of another is difficult, akin to telling a juror that the defendent is guilty without giving evidence to prove the accusation. I do know of some issues where people have not seen eye to eye with the Chairman, but it has absolutely nothing to do with meddling in tactics.

Then what EXACTLY was the point of your post?

Circumstantial evidence can weigh VERY heavily in the outcome of court cases, often heavily enough to secure a conviction.

It's common knowledge that Mr Rae is no stranger to the dressing room-ask Allan McGraw. It's common knowledge that he loves centre stage at every opportunity-didn't you see him giving JM the pre match lecture at Dens? Anyone with a grain of intelligence need only read one episode of 'Life on a Shoogly peg' to form the opinion that the man is a self obsessed, and somewhat poorly educated buffoon.

I put it to you-it is IMPOSSIBLE for Mr Rae not to intefere.

I put it to you that not a solitary employee of GMFC or Goden Casket would dispute that under oath.

I put it to you that Mr Rae's meddling is rapidly undoing the good for which he has previously been roundly commended.

I put it to you that the other Board members are simply 'stuffed shirts'.

One thing's certain, deliberate blindness deserves a wallop across the arse with a f***in' humungous white pole.
mortonjag 2007-10-03 19:09:47
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Oct 3 2007, 07:07 PM) [snapback]342259[/snapback]
Is Beermonkey your Monkey MJ tongue.gif

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Beermonkey would love to be my Monkey's lover-sadly he just can't come up to standard.
mortonjag 2007-10-03 19:18:31
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Oct 3 2007, 07:07 PM) [snapback]342258[/snapback]
Thanks for clearing that up. As you say, GC gave us a loan. That became the shares, so therefore we are no longer at risk of the loan being called in. I haven't seen the most recent set of accounts but that last set I saw still had the loan as a liability. It would be good to see the latest set of accounts, if anyone has them.

Personal money and company money are two different things. Ask any accountant....

The latest set of accounts shows that Crawford Rae is by far the second largest individual shareholder, and is also owed a four figure sum by the club-stated to be an 'interest free loan'.
mortonjag 2007-10-03 19:22:29
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Oct 3 2007, 07:17 PM) [snapback]342263[/snapback]
.. and both [spoiler]intellectual heavyweights[/spoiler] had to edit their posts huh.gif

Trumpet, if you check my posts you will discover that they are almost invariably edited-the price I have to pay as I constantly strive for perfection. Many could learn from Mortonjag's writings, if only they had the wit. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-03 19:30:05
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Oct 3 2007, 07:19 PM) [snapback]342266[/snapback]
You should never question the intelligence of somebody you don't know and I think it is a little daft to suggest that the thread you started is an accurate psychological profile of the chairman when a fair number of the contributors will never have had personal dealings with DDFR. What you say in the last 3 sentences quoted may be true; I was merely suggesting, not unfairly, that the chairman has done a lot of good for the club and I also recognised that there were individuals I know of who have just reason for not seeing eye to eye with the club's hierarchy.

This so-called lecture he gave at Dens Park, did you overhear what was being said? Was the chairman telling JM who to pick in the starting XI? If so, disgraceful.......you should not eavesdrop! wink.gif

Firstly, I HAVE met Mr Rae, and formed an opinion then which has yet to be proved inaccurate.

The second point is that I believe that Mr Rae should have been sitting on his aged arse enjoying the day out at Dens Park, rather than involving the Manager in 'small talk' minutes before a crucial match-----if it WAS 'small talk'. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-03 19:33:36
QUOTE(lush @ Oct 3 2007, 07:30 PM) [snapback]342284[/snapback]
You seriously think this message board would put any managers off? I hope we get one with more spirit than that. rolleyes.gif

An extra five grand a year and free Fudgy Wudgy's for the weans would win it hands down.
mortonjag 2007-10-03 19:34:28
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Oct 3 2007, 07:30 PM) [snapback]342286[/snapback]
verse and verse

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mortonjag 2007-10-03 20:40:19
QUOTE(lush @ Oct 3 2007, 07:25 PM) [snapback]342277[/snapback]
I have a Flat Eric, is that a monkey? Looks a bit like yours.

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mortonjag 2007-10-04 04:57:33
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Oct 3 2007, 07:58 PM) [snapback]342300[/snapback]
grasshopper, you would do better to strive for perfection and never make a single post, than continue to make so many errors

It's true-I feel ashamed-I promise not to have to ejit thiz piste
mortonjag 2007-10-04 05:00:21
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Oct 3 2007, 09:06 PM) [snapback]342322[/snapback]
You're trying too hard to sound like the voice of reason MJ. Get back to being a cantankerous old c***, before the world gets bent out of shape.

No need to be offensive you apple scrunching homophobe.
mortonjag 2007-10-04 05:03:05
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Oct 4 2007, 12:29 AM) [snapback]342425[/snapback]
What a cute looking Mini MJ Monkey tongue.gif

He harbours a dark secret Willow-whisper..he swapped scarves for that fotie.
mortonjag 2007-10-04 05:16:40
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 4 2007, 12:55 AM) [snapback]342432[/snapback]
Sorry but that's just crazy talk. We are a provincial club, perhaps on our day could just about get into the SPL but I've not seen it in my time - I'm sure a lot of posters haven't either.

Clubs like ours thrive on big cup days like that game. They may only come around once every 5 years or so and the whole town was buzzing that night. A much bigger buzz than in any of our last two league victories.

There is no way you can dismiss this as 'minimal', that was the highlight of the past few seasons by far.

I'm sure you walked out of the ground that day thinking 'good result, but in reality it means very little... think I'll pick up a tin of Horlicks and head up the road for an early night'

Edit - you also dismiss our WIN last season v St Johnstone as a game that meant very little. However last night's DEFEAT in the same competition suddenly becomes a big game. Remember you have to win quarter finals in order to PROGRESS to semis.

Just another example of how petty and pathetic most of your posts are.

I don't think Toby is either petty or pathetic on this one. Like myself he made the point about JM a long time ago, when 90% of posters had a jolly old time repeatedly pulling a few visionaries to shreds. To be honest Professor, you haven't a f*ckin' clue when it comes to the bigger picture.

Of the current SPL clubs, we are potentially bigger than five, and don't forget that many of us who have long since forgotten the taste of your beloved Farleys Rusks saw not inconsiderable success for the Ton at that level.

Have a nice day Einstein.
mortonjag 2007-10-04 06:11:04
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Oct 3 2007, 07:45 PM) [snapback]342296[/snapback]
i see you edited your excellent and thought-provoking post to add a spelling mistake for the likes of me to worship

i also think the hyphen is endangered

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mortonjag 2007-10-04 06:16:03
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Oct 3 2007, 08:23 PM) [snapback]342307[/snapback]
who are the 'we' in your signature, grasshopper?

The monkey and myself-as you very well know!
mortonjag 2007-10-04 06:19:56
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Oct 3 2007, 08:13 PM) [snapback]342305[/snapback]
would you now like to answer one?

Go ahead Trumpet-spit it out!
mortonjag 2007-10-04 06:23:58
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Oct 3 2007, 08:27 PM) [snapback]342309[/snapback]
i think i might vote "Cappie is to blane for this mess" if only i could decide what it all meant

Mea culpa Trumpet-you see, one may not edit the heading after the topic's been posted.

It should have read--'I., ss cKapy two laim phor thys mes//?
mortonjag 2007-10-04 06:25:39
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Oct 3 2007, 11:38 PM) [snapback]342404[/snapback]
Sack McInally, sack DDFR, sack Cappie, sack the fans, sack the board, sack the ballboys, sack the tannoy, sack the pie-stall, sack the turnstile operators, sack the Norseman, sack the club shop, sack the webcast, sack the hospitality......

and then maybe a few folk will be happy.

No club to watch, but at least they'll be happy knowing they've done their bit in making it happen.

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mortonjag 2007-10-04 06:30:28
QUOTE(McInally`s Monkey @ Oct 4 2007, 12:04 AM) [snapback]342414[/snapback]
Get real. Why do some people expect immediate success at such a competitive level and voice their concerns so strongly about how Morton are not world-beaters at the moment?

I have my own feelings over how the club is run from top to bottom but I would never voice them to the public, whether they are positive, neutral or negative. It's up to the club board and management to decide who has a job and who hasn't so leave them to it!!

Greenock Morton FC is in the public eye but it is also a profession. This forum is all about opinions but these are turning into personal attacks on certain individuals. How would you like it if people were continuously suggesting that YOU should be sacked from YOUR job?!?

I assure you that Professional standards have to be seen to be upheld in true Professions MM. Whatever gave you the notion that GMFC (in that I do not include the employees) is a Professional organisation?

Shoogly still can't get the hang of that Cowboy Outfit he bought five or six years ago.
mortonjag 2007-10-04 06:34:59 Jay Shields is an excellent right back-fortunately for the lad, he can get to f*ck after six months if he keeps getting messed about-off to a club where players are selected instead of being pulled out of some pre match lottery bag.
mortonjag 2007-10-04 06:36:45
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Oct 3 2007, 07:38 PM) [snapback]342290[/snapback]
ah - so it's god's fault ultimately (or whoever created god)

Correct, and those would be a Mr and Mrs Rae, I'd imagine.
mortonjag 2007-10-04 06:38:37
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Oct 3 2007, 09:48 PM) [snapback]342337[/snapback]
And what if the best... IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH!?

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We dismiss him, while thanking him fo his best efforts, and wishing him well in the future!
mortonjag 2007-10-04 06:40:59
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Oct 4 2007, 01:08 AM) [snapback]342436[/snapback]
What ?

Don't be perturbed-the Trumpet is just suffering from a wee dose of PMT-she'll be back to normal by Sunday I'd guess!
mortonjag 2007-10-04 06:53:33
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 4 2007, 01:13 AM) [snapback]342439[/snapback]
The lack of ideas on here is why we should just leave things as they are. Who the fck we going to get?

The only name who is out of work an would consider the job is Dick Campbell. Enough said.
For everyone else this job would be a step down - other than John McGlynn or Billy Stark, and I'm not convinced they are anything better than JM. And we would need to pay compensation, which would amount to 1 less player from the budget.

Jim Duffy - not had a good record in his recent jobs which is perhaps why he's coaching NOT managing.
Added to that people start picking up fantasy football dream team pairings of Duffy and McInnes. Who's to say these guys even know or like each other? And another crucial factor... is Rae really capable of bringing this together? No.

Neil Watt - won't go full time.
Janne - Got a good job in Finland.
Robertson - like him, but can't see us getting him from Derry.
Pressley - Aye, cause we can afford �5k-�10k a WEEK!
Warnock - Again, fantasy thinking. I'm sure he's going to risk his reputation as a well respected manager in England to come up here to the unknown for fck all money and even less thanks. Warnock resigned from Sheffield due to arsehole fans, similar to those we are plagued with, giving him a hard time.

So that leaves... Dick Campbell. No thanks.

Hey Prof-see this Campbell guy-is he managing a club right now-Ross County just sacked some bloke who had them top of the league (they're good at that sort of thing ye ken), and don't you keep telling us that it's results that count. ohmy.gif


Mind you they sacked him because they didn't like his style of management-fans were getting pissed off or something. Sorry Son-just another senior moment.
mortonjag 2007-10-04 06:57:28
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Oct 3 2007, 05:12 PM) [snapback]342179[/snapback]
A bit over-excited? tongue.gif

Would that be Professor John Underhill?
mortonjag 2007-10-04 07:11:59
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Oct 3 2007, 07:45 PM) [snapback]342295[/snapback]
Unless you have lived in it you will never know, i also know quite a few folk who have left that area and moved over here wink.gif

It's amazing the insight you get when you spend years attending out of hours call in Greater Glasgow!

Give a scheme a bad name, and every house is tarred with the same brush.

Many a good bird came oot a bad nest. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-04 07:13:23 John Reid running onto a football pitch.
mortonjag 2007-10-04 07:19:48 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


'That's what you get for messing with the nationalists'!!!!!

It's definitely Hee Haw-he probably jetting back from Miami as I type.
mortonjag 2007-10-04 07:30:31 Let's get this straight-JM's job's on the line-plain and simple. I don't think it's too fanciful to suggest that if the players are behind the gaffer, they'll pull out the stops for him at the weekend. Anything short of a victory must be a worrying prospect for our Manager.

If all's well in the dressing room, I reckon we'll win this one by the odd goal.
mortonjag 2007-10-04 08:12:05
QUOTE(simplyton @ Oct 4 2007, 07:43 AM) [snapback]342469[/snapback]
MJ its clearly in thread as We always - The post hasn't been edited. Are you saying my post suggested or YOU ASSUMED I was attempting to speak for the rest of the posters?

"you appeared to be lying" which I have shown was not the case therefore how am I a liar?

As I have said previously you complain about "muppets" (your words) having a go at you - Yet you call me a liar with no justification.



'We always knew Mcinally wasn't up the job'.


Those were your words Son-I'm sorry if my interpretation offended you- but an unqualified 'WE' on a message board, when directed at one other poster clearly suggests that the poster is referring to himself and all others exclusive of 'YOU'.

Anyhow, you should have realised that I was just poking fun (as I always do at posters who 'speak for all').

I suggest that if my explanation fails to satisfy, you may take the matter up with your English teacher later this morning.
mortonjag 2007-10-04 08:15:26
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 4 2007, 08:01 AM) [snapback]342472[/snapback]
There are plenty of reasonable alternatives - you're just trying to fling them all out without any consideration - "I'm not convinced they are anything better than JM." huh.gif
The bubonic plague is preferable to Mr Tactics at the moment.
Considering at least half of the pish you've been coming away with all season has already been seen as fantasy, I really doubt that this is going to come to pass either.
And as for arsehole fans - don't be shy: name names. huh.gif

One of those would be useful for the Managerial 'hotseat'.
mortonjag 2007-10-04 08:16:59
QUOTE(simplyton @ Oct 4 2007, 07:59 AM) [snapback]342471[/snapback]
We've stood by for long enough and let this go on - He's clearly playing <Insert top player name> out of position and his tactics against <insert opposition team name> were laughable.

I for one did not back his appointment - I felt we should have went for <Insert successful managers name> rather than replace Mcinally with <Insert managers name>.

(Just in preparation wink.gif )

That'll be you and Daddy!
mortonjag 2007-10-04 08:26:55 4th October


1957: Sputnik launched

The Soviet Union fires the starting gun of the space race with its launch of Sputnik, the world's first artificial Earth satellite. Soviet radio reported that the artificial moon, which weighed 184 pounds, was circling Earth once every hour and 36 minutes. From its elliptical orbit hundreds of miles above Earth, Sputnik transmitted signals back to the ground strong enough to be picked up by amateur radio operators. Many Americans feared the Soviet’s new technology, which seemed to be strides ahead of U.S. efforts. Sputnik was 52 times the size of the first planned U.S. satellite, which was not even scheduled to be launched until the next year.
mortonjag 2007-10-04 09:15:22
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Oct 4 2007, 08:48 AM) [snapback]342478[/snapback]
Read Dougie's post rolleyes.gif

Dougie wondered why you were so prolific yet so repetitious

maybe not so serious but a question nonetheless smile.gif

I dislike JM intensly and I have a personal reason for that as is well known. So whats the script with you and DDF?Why must every single thread come back to him? Quite frankly I am amazed that you don't blame him for the war in Iraq or the mounting drug problem in Inverclyde because you can not help yourself but spout p*** about him thirty times a day. Whats wrong did he fire you as a child? steal the love of your life? or is it just he is a dithering old man who has achieved something where as you are a dithering old man with hee haw better to do with your life but slander someone on an internet forum

You expected me to take such a ludicrously exaggerated statement seriously Trumpet. laugh.gif

If the said 'Dougie' 'HATES' JM, but won't tell us why, may we asume from his last paragraph that he is the one with 'issues'. I have no personal gripe with Mr Rae, as I've stated REPEATEDLY-does our 'Dougie' actually read my posts? ohmy.gif

He is the latest ill advised poster to jump on the 'bash Mortonjag' rollercoaster, for which the Monkey and his Master are grateful. Maybe he'll last a bit longer than the previous pretenders. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-04 09:21:50
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 4 2007, 09:12 AM) [snapback]342484[/snapback]
So you'd really rather have Campbell than Jim? Campbell left because he argued too much with the board.
Sligo was Jim's 1st job. Duffy has had several jobs and is currently not good enough to manage, hence why he's coaching.

Jim was also an inexpensive option, Duffy would cost plenty.

I did not mean to suggest DC as an ideal candidate. If it was one or the other, I'd take Campbell.
mortonjag 2007-10-04 09:26:48
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 4 2007, 09:21 AM) [snapback]342489[/snapback]
Yes, but he made that point last year. Then we went onto WIN the league, hardly a total failure or backward step. Now after a bad result in the cup he trawls it all out again.

However some people forget that we have just been promoted, give the team a while to settle into the league. We have shown we are comeptitive at this level and with a little bit of experience have a suitable squad to pick up points.

If guys like you and Toby were chairman then we'd spend more time and money on replacing managers than we would on players.

Like I've said, this anyone but Jim view is quite petty, especially the way he describes it as 'doing his best for the club'. His view is that we'd be better off with anyone else, that doesn't make it the correct view.

Using your yardstick for personality assessment, I'd humbly proffer the opinion that if you were Chairman, the Club would be bust in two weeks.
mortonjag 2007-10-04 10:10:09
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 4 2007, 09:30 AM) [snapback]342493[/snapback]
Another sound and reasoned argument from MJ. :sarcasm:

Don't be ridiculous Procrustes-if you can't see the point in that post you're thicker than I imagined. You're a twenty two year old kid who appears to think he knows everything, and you blithely discount any argument which shakes your self belief as 'unsound and unreasoned'.

Throwaway expressions like those may win you points in jousts with your 'wet behind the ears' contemporaries Piehole, but it's evident to me that unless you learn to listen you're going nowhere fast.

Please don't further demean yourself by questioning my success in life, or you're liable to get my C.V. in a p.m. I'm Mortonjag here-AND HERE ONLY.

You DO talk a lot of sense about the game itself-you seem to have a grasp of the playing side, and I've always given you credit for that. Just try to accept your limitations when it comes to bigger matters.
mortonjag 2007-10-04 10:18:24
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Oct 4 2007, 09:36 AM) [snapback]342494[/snapback]
the truth is rarely pure and never simple, grasshopper

defeat to Partick would be unfortunate, but defeat at Clyde could see us go bottom, and subsequent defeat at home against Stirling would indeed be worrying sad.gif

Don't be a 'Silly Billy', Trumpet-has that period not come yet? wink.gif

The truth is frequently plain and simple-I hope we're not in for some metaphysical debate a la Bahomey-where is the good chap those days anyway? I'm SURE he'd back me up. The truth is that today's Thursday up here in the big smoke-have you caught up yet?
mortonjag 2007-10-04 10:21:42
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 4 2007, 10:15 AM) [snapback]342499[/snapback]
It's really the club's responsibility - IF they part company with the coach - to know which managers are available and affordable.

There's no question the Club will lose JM sooner or later.
mortonjag 2007-10-04 10:24:09
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Oct 4 2007, 09:15 AM) [snapback]342486[/snapback]
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You are right with the last part, although witnessing stuff night after night i just had to get the hell out of there myself wink.gif

Unfortunately Clydebank suffered even more than Inverclyde from the run down of the old industries-it sure has a few s***ty bits!
mortonjag 2007-10-04 10:26:03
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Oct 4 2007, 09:51 AM) [snapback]342495[/snapback]
Seems like yesterday? My old man hadn't even reached his 1st birthday.

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What a prodigy-shagging in nappies.
mortonjag 2007-10-05 08:22:38
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Oct 4 2007, 01:16 PM) [snapback]342557[/snapback]
cantankerous old c*** is a term of affection down this way smile.gif

No need for the stars in 'crab' apple muncher! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-05 08:36:08
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 4 2007, 01:21 PM) [snapback]342559[/snapback]
People should get behind the players at the game but this board's a place to discuss the team as well as other Morton matters, surely?

Agreed

IT-I disagree, our squad is not good enough

Agreed


But I stand by what I said -I honestly feel that the current pastime of player baiting is 'below the belt'.


I 've often said-perhaps my biggest criticism of the squad that Stu and Hardy do not gel- I've been critical in the past of David McGregor when I felt his form had dropped AND the boy was being played out of position-I've regularly said Scotty is a very negative player, but a huge asset with his energy, early reading of the game, and tracking back. Maybe the best example is the Kevin Finlayson-'Saint of Sinner' thread for which I took huge abuse, yet I've ALWAYS emphasised Kev's assets.

Point taken?

Comments like 'Who told Harding he was a footballer', are IMO cowardly, and in his case, patently innacurate.
mortonjag 2007-10-05 08:47:14
QUOTE(simplyton @ Oct 4 2007, 10:37 AM) [snapback]342509[/snapback]
Indeed it may well be or it could be the whole of the Morton support - Thats for you to interpret at the time.

Nope Sir-you DIDN'T speak to your English Teacher as I advised! wink.gif

When a poster uses 'We' on the forum-unless he qualifies it, he will be taken to be speaking for himself and the others.

Example: 'I think Mr Rae is a lovely old gentleman'---one opinion

'We-the Monkey and I-think Mr Rae is a lovely old gentleman'---two opinons


'We think Mr Rae is a lovely old Gntleman'---open to interpretation-correct-stated by one poster on an interactive messageboard-highly suggestive of 'speaking for all'.
If you require any English tuition, let me know-the Monkey has too much spare time on his paws.
mortonjag 2007-10-05 08:54:25
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Oct 4 2007, 01:30 PM) [snapback]342562[/snapback]
An example from my own life:

I am an employee of a company.

I am employed to manage certain specialist aspects of the activities of the company.

I have subordinates who report to me.

I report to someone further up the management structure who is not a specialist in my field.

It is my responsibility to manage the people and activities under my control, but MY manager will, from time to time, want to discuss these matters and may even give me direction as to how we wishes me to proceed.

I may like the direction given, or not like it, but it remains the direction

How is that different from DDFR/ JMs relationship?

Presumably in the fact that your superior is more experienced than you within your chosen joint endeavour, and in that you agree mutually that 'discussion' is productive.
mortonjag 2007-10-05 08:57:20
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Oct 4 2007, 01:56 PM) [snapback]342571[/snapback]
I must have missed this - which players?

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Do you think they would want the posters who have spoken to them, to be daft enough to identify them HERE ?!!!!!!!!!
mortonjag 2007-10-05 08:59:20
QUOTE(stubaws @ Oct 4 2007, 02:31 PM) [snapback]342586[/snapback]
good post, find the constant slanging of dougie exceptionally harsh when there is no actual proof of any of the allegations by mj and co

Fair enough-time wil tell. That's exactly the type of feeling most folk had well over a year ago when I pointed out JM's deficiencies.
mortonjag 2007-10-05 09:04:06 I'd like to see Douglas Rae appoint a Director of Football responsible to the Board, but given freedom to run the club. It could be successful, and would not undermine Mr Rae's credibility -indeed would be seen as an inspired decision IMO.
mortonjag 2007-10-05 09:14:05 Firstly-the mystery behind the Stan Webster story has not been unravelled-there is certainly NO evidence to suggest tht JM ever got a message which was repeatedly reported to have been passed to him.

Guys, you can't have it both ways-I believe JM's style is regularly cramped by Shoogly's interference-I've several pieces of evidence to suggest that, but none would stand up in court.

It's either that, or JM carries the can for the whole sorry saga of signings or lack of them, and for everything to do with the playing side. I don't rate him very highly as a Manager, but at least I've been willing to accept he might do better elsewhere.
mortonjag 2007-10-05 09:24:31
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 4 2007, 11:22 AM) [snapback]342522[/snapback]
. So we're back to the 'I'm older, obviously more successful than younger people on the board so therefore obviously correct and don't need to justify anything'.Just about managed to regain my breath after laughing so much

Really thought you'd got past that a few weeks ago.

I don't think I've ever questioned your success in life, it's you who seems to be self obsessed to the point of bringing it up on a weekly basis. :low self esteem:

I'm a confident fellow and don't need to bring up p1sh about my personal life to try and 'look big and clever'.

Anyway thanks for the advice, I'll try and 'accept my limitations' next time I'm ripping one of your so called topics to shreads.

Your assessment of your qualities Piehole is really the most laughable aspect of this thread.

The truth is that you don't have a clue about my personal life-I DON'T divulge very much on he forum.

The scenario is clear-a 22 year old boy is incapable of entertaining any opinion other than his own.

To an old(ish) man that is rather sad. Other posters seem to agree.
mortonjag 2007-10-05 09:35:16 I feel sorry for JM. Whether or not he's a good Manager, or has the potential to be a good Manager, isn't fully clear to me.

As somebody else said, he and Shoogly were 'made for each other'. Not every Chairman behaves as ours, and I wish Jim success in the future. Hopefuly he will have learned from the experience.

Step up the next 'Yes Mr Rae'.
mortonjag 2007-10-05 09:51:08 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Tinton, when I criticise what I see so wrong (and I AM older than you)-it's always 'Spouting negative pish 2000 times a day'.

When I try to be positive about our potential-BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE OF SUPPORTING THE TON FOR OVER FIFTY YEARS- all I hear are negative, 'glass half empty' bleats about how we're just WEE Morton.

I remember us scudding the OF regularly- I see a village side in the SPL-I look at the likes of Kilmarnock, Motherwell, Falkirk, St Mirren, and even Inverness, and I KNOW we could do as well-we have the potential to do even better.

Rae promised us the SPL-I believe he did so with the best of intentions, but he's suddenly gone very quiet about his ambitions. The truth is that HE is not big enough financially just to buy us there like Mileson did, though he perhaps thought he could. I firmly believe he's lost the plot, and is now more praying than planning. Time for serious rationalisation at Cappielow, if we're to move on, and it needn't mean Shoogly losing face.
mortonjag 2007-10-05 09:58:01 A broken finger (if indeed that's the diagnosis) for a Goalie, is like a broken toe for an outfielder. It may just be minor ligament tear, but a fracture will probably see him out 'til November at the earliest.
mortonjag 2007-10-05 10:04:11
QUOTE(mickaspic @ Oct 5 2007, 09:47 AM) [snapback]342828[/snapback]
I think that the interference complaints are no more than conspiracy theory stuff and maybe people trying to make sense of the managers tactics. Rae is enthusiastic alright and maybe would love to be involved with the playing side of things at the club but I think a strong personality as manager would keep him in check.

My main criticism of the "Rae era" to date has to be the lack of progression of Morton as a sustainable club. With Rae at the helm we seem to be following a model for success that is now being abandoned by other teams - using tactics such as paying fees for players, high wages and long term contracts. This in my opinion is not the way forward. This procedure will only ever bring short term success. Also if Rae were to leave we would be in need of another sugar daddy as the club in its present state cannot support itself.

There was a great article about Hamilton (posted on this site) and an interview with there chairman which was truly inspirational. Getting the club involved with the community, developing a superb youth system, and earning revenue from the pitch - making Hamilton a long term, sustainable feeder club inbuilt with the local community. We have none of this.

On numerous occasions the current players/officials at Morton have alienated the Morton support by their actions - calling this message board a rag, or not turning up to end of season presentations as arranged.

I am coming to the end of my tether with the current commercial situation, while Hamilton are recouping cash using any avenue available to them i.e. renting out their pitch at nights, we are being peddled with late arriving, sub standard replica shirts. My dads seasons ticket renewal form hasnt arrived at all for two seasons with him having to chase Morton to renew his ticket. I get sick of reading in the program about bringing a friend. Morton will always have 2000-3000 hardcore fans but they are being forgotten in a misled drive to bring the masses of Inverclyde back to Cappielow. We have asked for good quality cheaper strips - not delivered. We have asked for a regularly updated web page, especially so that out of towners can get strips etc - not delivered. I have emailed the club asking for computer background, screen savers, mobile phone covers etc be posted on the web page at a cost of say 50p to download (which could earn the club money with little effort & publicise the club) - nothing.

The youth system debacle has been done to death on this board, but its current situation is nothing short of a disgrace.

I think all of the above has led to distance growing between the club and the fans and a general feeling of discontent throughout the support. This maybe helps explain the current clamour to critiUnder the Rae regime it seems to be a delivery of what he [b]thinks the fans want (web-cats, fantasy football), rather than listening to what the fans actually want.[/b]cise the club at every turn when in all fairness we are doing OK in our first season back in Div 1.

Mick

Mr Rae's personality appears to be such that he believes that what HE wants will inevitably be what the fans want. It's not really his fault, but he's SO wrong.
mortonjag 2007-10-05 10:12:24
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 5 2007, 09:10 AM) [snapback]342817[/snapback]
Yeah, I see what you're getting at, but (as I'm sure you're well aware tongue.gif) other people at the club have come in for far, far worse criticism. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, surely.

Incidentally, Finlayson's a good player for us, rubbish final ball or otherwise, anyone who says otherwise is a slag biggrin.gif

That's where I fundamentally disagree. Mr Rae can have articles published in the National press and the'Tilly', and says exactly what he pleases in his programme notes. The Manager, to a lesser degree, has the media at his disposal, and has, in the past, slated the fans.

The players have little redress to personal assaults-Big Stu got upset at some drunken clot in hositality once, but generally the players have little comeback. That's why I regard wanton 'destruction' of inividuals by the board's issue laden weans as reprehensible.
mortonjag 2007-10-05 10:14:16
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 5 2007, 09:49 AM) [snapback]342829[/snapback]
Aye right, we all know you wrote that yourself. Straight from the inside cover of your little black book.

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Care to define 'WE' Prof?
mortonjag 2007-10-05 11:03:51
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Oct 5 2007, 10:53 AM) [snapback]342853[/snapback]
This forum is not, I think, a fair representation of general opinion. It's dominated by a relatively small number of very militant posters. (yes, you all know who you are! tongue.gif )

Take it with a pinch of salt.

I pretty much agree with the rest of your post, though I think the time for making a decision is at Christmas.

What is your definition of 'general opinion'? I suspect you mean the perceived wisdom of the 'average' Ton fan. Where better for an outsider to look, than on the only independent web site dedicated to morton fans. You've maybe noticed the diminishing crowds-is that a BETTER representation of 'general opinion'? I strongly suspect that despite the 'domination of the forum by a relatively small number' as you claim, the guys on here are far more Morton fans (every one of us) than the floating masses. If we were indifferent, we'd just slope off with those whose scarves still need a wash.
mortonjag 2007-10-05 11:07:32 What next-Sanny is pretty tall so he gets to fix the floodlights!
mortonjag 2007-10-05 11:17:27
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 5 2007, 11:04 AM) [snapback]342858[/snapback]
Good point, well made tinton.

There are plenty people on here who have been acting like old firm fans for the past few seasons.

A sound and reasoned argument again from Professor Procrustes. What do you MEAN by 'acting like OF fans', Piehole? Remember I require a strong logical proposition, weighing up the pros and cons, and backed by sound evidence.

May I suggest that your next presentation to the Royal Society of Philosophers could be headed-

'A detailed study of the actions of the average Old Firm Fan, contrasted to those of 'Provincial' club supporters.

Finally, will I be excused in future for replying to every post which echoes my sentiments, with-

'Good point-well made'. Perhaps you ARE Shoogly's love child.
mortonjag 2007-10-05 11:26:39
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 5 2007, 12:33 AM) [snapback]342790[/snapback]
[b]You can talk, Virgil. I reckon ThornTON will get his hole before you even get stinky fingers.
Marvin Andrews.
[/b]
A devout Christian yet has admitted to ratting half of Fife before running down to his temple of worship to give 10 Hail Mary's and beg forgiveness.

Cliff's a Homo.

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Guess that excludes family pets.
mortonjag 2007-10-06 07:07:06
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 5 2007, 11:44 AM) [snapback]342874[/snapback]
Very good Ernest, another meaningless post chalked up.

I was just agreeing with the original poster, obviously you didn't bother to put my post into context of the whole thread.

Better luck next time.

Nice to see the inevitable progression to little boy speak Piecrust. You were NOT 'just agreeing'- you were coming in your pants at the prospect of a kindred spirit-they ARE few and far between. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-06 07:13:16
QUOTE(johnston @ Oct 5 2007, 12:20 PM) [snapback]342914[/snapback]
Excellent post. Too many postulating pre-pubescent types on here with no sense of providence or provenance in relation to the 'ton.
Let's have another poll..........zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

You do have a predilection for 'Pees' Sir-perhaps your prostatic problem and patronising prose relate to parapsychotic pathology. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-06 07:16:36
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Oct 5 2007, 01:15 PM) [snapback]342957[/snapback]
What I mean is that this forum has c. 2500 members. Probably 100 regular(ish) posters. There are, I guess, a few dozen who regularly express a very strong opinion that JM should go now. Many more, I guess again, may hold another opinion (or, indeed agree with yours) but are less willing to

Reading this forum, you would easily conclude that a large number of Morton supporters are looking for JMs head on a plate. I'm only pointing out that this isn't necessarily the case. The vast majority of Morton supporters either don't post on here or are apathetic to the point that they don't engage in the sensible mature discussions which so often take place here.

By definition, those who post on these topics are the vocal, militant, minority. Doesn't make them (us) any more or less supportive of Morton though.
ps - I really, really don't want to invite another round of the recent debate on the value of polls......please!

It's true-the opinions of the small minority here are totally nullified by the non significant diminution in gates!!!!!!!!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-06 07:20:43
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 5 2007, 01:21 PM) [snapback]342959[/snapback]
Fair point regarding the right to reply, I suppose, but the players could presumably speak out too (and reap the whirlwind in response.)

A rubbish midfielder named Sergio of Deportivo La Coruna last week basically told the fans via the press that if they were going to boo him, they should just stay home biggrin.gif

Monday's Tilly


DEANO IN 'GET IT UP YEES' TO TON FANS



Something like that? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-06 07:22:49
QUOTE(simplyton @ Oct 5 2007, 01:26 PM) [snapback]342961[/snapback]
Mr Mortonjag thank you for correcting me

I was worried that you apologising for calling me a liar would mean you would stop posting.

BTW you missed an e in gentleman and also a capital letter is not required as im sure your English teacher would have told you

Well done young Sir-you are beginning to pay attention!
mortonjag 2007-10-06 07:24:53
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Oct 5 2007, 01:38 PM) [snapback]342964[/snapback]
You don't know, do you?
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I ony know of one DEFINITE case, but have no reason to doubt other posters whose sources have previously proven to be accurate.
mortonjag 2007-10-06 07:29:11
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Oct 5 2007, 08:05 PM) [snapback]343164[/snapback]
chicken

either that or withdraw laugh.gif

or don't you know? rolleyes.gif

whichever, a pretty slimy post

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A slimy post stands between Hee Haws legs as he sooks Royal jelly off his aching keyboard bashers.
mortonjag 2007-10-06 07:32:00
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Oct 5 2007, 08:14 PM) [snapback]343166[/snapback]
That'll be why we took nearly 1500 to Broadwood for the semi last season, and the year before that a megre 7500 turned up at Love St. for it.

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The excuses are still trotted out as we roll relentlessly towards the precipice.
mortonjag 2007-10-06 07:35:19 Nothing's changed. Forget the Shoogly show-if the lads want it enough today, three points will be in our bag.
mortonjag 2007-10-06 07:38:32
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Oct 5 2007, 09:11 PM) [snapback]343191[/snapback]
MJ has a personal agenda with the Chairman but, unlike you, he is not honest enough to admit to this. The irony is that anyone with half a brain can see this. Very possibly someone with a prior connection with the Club who dropped out of favour and is now chucking the dummy out of the pram? Quite pathetic really. mad.gif

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I'm highly honoured to learn that Mr Rae knows me.


EEJIT
mortonjag 2007-10-06 07:41:14
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Oct 5 2007, 07:54 PM) [snapback]343157[/snapback]
... or a broken wrist for a keyboard warrior

Or a broken promise for a Ton fan? dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-06 07:42:24
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Oct 5 2007, 11:50 PM) [snapback]343281[/snapback]
I got a broken wrist just now sad.gif

You manage remarkably well with your other member though!
mortonjag 2007-10-06 07:48:38 It's quite simple really-Mr Rae IS Golden Casket, and GMFC is part of Golden Casket.

All the rest is simply a juggling of figures-hopefully in the interest of all.

It's just a case of Mr Rae giving the sponsorship money to Mr Rae when all's said and done.
mortonjag 2007-10-06 07:51:10
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Oct 5 2007, 09:30 PM) [snapback]343199[/snapback]
What a complete and utter tool you really are. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I find tools quite useful you drunken ape-why don't you visit my vasectomy clinic? dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-06 07:54:23
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 6 2007, 12:34 AM) [snapback]343316[/snapback]
You've let wee bits and pieces slip by when trying in vain to underline your superiority.
Still waiting on your CV btw. Should be a cracking read.

I wasn't aware that you wanted it Procrustes, but by all means P.M me yours and I'll send mine by return, on the strict understandng that they are then published side by side on this messageboard.

That WOULD be a cracking read indeed! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-06 07:56:00
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Oct 6 2007, 12:40 AM) [snapback]343320[/snapback]
whit? i could write the guy's cv and i've had him on ignore for months.

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...and I confidently wrote yours after reading your first post.
mortonjag 2007-10-06 07:59:57
QUOTE(TheGreatestEver @ Oct 6 2007, 03:26 AM) [snapback]343359[/snapback]
Oooooohhh, Stan the Man again. Call in the Famous f***in Five to unravel the 'mystery' MJ, or get Columbo on the case. Or shut the f*** up.

Webster Wenger eh? How are these 'promising young lads' getting on at Killie & Murray Park, incidentally? Or was it Dorchester, I may be mistaken. Keep us posted, old bean laugh.gif

Scott McDonald's doing nicely thanks, and I didn't bring the topic up again, though pointless and provocative responses like yours may well mask a desire to do exactly that.
mortonjag 2007-10-06 08:07:24
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 6 2007, 01:27 AM) [snapback]343337[/snapback]
I think you may well be the most annoying person in the universe.

Little Piehole will never aspire to that accolade while mortonjag's around.
mortonjag 2007-10-06 08:09:50
QUOTE(Parfait Medou-Otye @ Oct 6 2007, 04:07 AM) [snapback]343361[/snapback]
What a load of pish.

Boo f**kin hoo, we aren't top of the league, let's all run home and watch Jeff Stelling for a year or 2 and then reappear the next time there's a big game.

Yes, some of the performances/ tactics this season have been bad and we've all gone home pissed off. But what gives us the divine right to swagger into the First Division and stroll through it?

This witch hunt by some sections against McInally is embarassing. Agreed, his negative tactics were awful against Stirling and since then he hasn't covered himself in glory but who exactly are we going to replace him with??? Maybe I'm forgetting about someone who is going to turn us into Barcelona??? Please enlighten me as to what magical messiah-like unemployed Scottish manager is going to lead us into the SPL this season......

Its time to get a grip, this end of the world stuff is laughable. Get a life and get behind the players.

What position does this McInally play in?
mortonjag 2007-10-06 08:15:28 Sack Sanity Clause-his sack's a myth anyway.
mortonjag 2007-10-06 08:18:08
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Oct 5 2007, 04:40 PM) [snapback]343057[/snapback]
Was told to keep this quiet but DDFR has asked me to come out of retirement and has even offered to buy me a new set of gloves.

....as he can't stand stains on his coctail glass.
mortonjag 2007-10-06 08:20:08
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Oct 5 2007, 11:21 PM) [snapback]343252[/snapback]
this team has the potential to do well, if templeman and russell are given a chance with our best midfielders playing in the correct positions. i don't understand how people don't like temps. he's a cracking footballer - if russell turns out to be a quality finisher, we won't need temps to score too many. his assists will make russell's goal tally good enough for two.

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mortonjag 2007-10-06 08:27:26
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 5 2007, 07:30 PM) [snapback]343145[/snapback]
I questioned the logic last season after we purchased Linn and continued to start with McGowan . Ultimately we aided Celtic and hindered ourselves .
We had a chance to get a striking partnership between Templeman and Linn that would have stood us in better shape for this season .
Again we have reduced our options upfront .
Good luck to Bobby lets hope he gets regular football and if he comes back it will be with a manager who will give him a fair crack of the whip .

That's my take.

Bobby was signed as a striker and played second fiddle to an inexperienced attacking midfielder.

A guy who's under contract and 'requests that he be put out on loan', is effectively telling the Shoogly Show to 'go f*ck themselves'. Good luck Bobby.
mortonjag 2007-10-06 08:33:20
QUOTE(Tinton @ Oct 6 2007, 07:07 AM) [snapback]343370[/snapback]
I detect a little bit of hysteria here, and much of it is quite deliberate as everything that happens at Cappielow now is spun into some major catastrophe of Douglas Rae and JM’s making.

Bobby Linn is a smashing young player, he has competition for a place at Morton just now so is not getting as many games as he or JM would like so it makes perfect sense for him to go out on a season long loan. Good for the player as he’ll get regular first team football and it’s good for both clubs, certainly Morton as we’ll get him back a better player.

To read much of this thread you’d get the impression that Bobby Linn has been in some way degraded, demoted or insulted by this move. He is a Morton player out on loan, that’s all and it’s quite normal with young players, I think it maybe a different story when you get to Martyn Corrigan’s age. We have over the years had young players on a season long loan and they have gone back to their clubs. Charlie Adams of Rangers had to endure the indignity of playing for St Mirren for a season but at all time he considered himself a Rangers player. Why on earth would Bobby Linn not want to come back after his loan spell is over?

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Presumably for the reason he left!!!!!

You are more patronising than mortonjag-'Bobby Linn is a smashing young player' laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

What exactly is your status within GMFC Sir?
mortonjag 2007-10-06 08:38:41 Morton 1 Partick 0

Poachers goal by

LEAFY RUSSELL
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mortonjag 2007-10-06 08:44:05
McGurn

Shields Weatherson Harding McLaughlin


McAlister Stevenson Walker McAnespie


Russell Templeman
mortonjag 2007-10-06 11:18:06
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 6 2007, 10:15 AM) [snapback]343433[/snapback]
He's got little right to pontificate about fans' expectations considering the pig's ear he made of the Stenny job.

Perhaps he should have substituted 'paying customers' for 'fans'.
mortonjag 2007-10-06 11:20:37
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Oct 6 2007, 10:33 AM) [snapback]343444[/snapback]
Can you tell us why?
Templeman isn't playing well, hasn't contributed anything in the way of creating chances or taking them so far this season, and has already flopped at this level twice before.
Brian Graham is playing well, takes his chances, and has got some confidence at the moment.

Time will tell-young Graham's had a dream start, but he hasn't nearly the physical presence of Sanny as a 'target man'. Reminds me vaguely of the young Joe Jordan and definitely one for the future though.
mortonjag 2007-10-06 11:24:26
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 6 2007, 09:08 AM) [snapback]343408[/snapback]
Was just about to post that puggsy.

This has f'ck all to do with McInally, or the Dougie 'regime'. Bobby has made a personal decision, and wants to be close to his family (we all know why), and it also gives him the chance to play from the start every week (something he will not get at Cappielow).

To use this as point scoring against Jim McInally is just a wee bit off target.

What a daft comment Natch! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-06 11:27:39
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Oct 6 2007, 10:54 AM) [snapback]343454[/snapback]
Stop being so simplistic it doesn't suit you tongue.gif

The Monkey does the simple ones-mortonjag's the c*nt, and after Lush's prompting, bloody Flat Eric wants in too! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-06 11:31:18
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Oct 6 2007, 11:22 AM) [snapback]343464[/snapback]
If we sign this keeper JM will no doubt put him straight into the 1st team in place of Oor Davie blink.gif

Oor Willie?

(Sex expose by Siamese twins)
mortonjag 2007-10-06 11:38:30
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 6 2007, 11:30 AM) [snapback]343475[/snapback]
Why's that? He's not good enough for the first team, and Linn saw this an opportunity to get first team football and to be closer to his family for reasons which are well known.

Now you want it both ways. Presumably the guys who 'are not to blame' didn't think that when they shelled out fifteen grand for his services.

He has not fulfilled promise-how can the boy be entirely to blame when he's only had the odd 'wee shot' and has never been given an opportunity to settle?

The deliberate refusal to substitute favoured players when form dropped last season is one reason for the problem-and that was NOT of Linn's choosing.
mortonjag 2007-10-06 11:41:30
QUOTE(se65an @ Oct 6 2007, 09:10 AM) [snapback]343411[/snapback]
If you were an SPL player going out on loan for whatever reason, would Morton be your top choice?

Given most 1st Div teams would be interested, I doubt if Morton given the current state of affairs would rank very highly.

Whats your opinion

Sean-that was never meant to be a SERIOUS question!!!

BTW where's yer pal-has MidTON's become Hee Haw? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-06 11:44:06
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 6 2007, 11:19 AM) [snapback]343460[/snapback]
You appear to have OF permanently enlodged in your brain. dry.gif

Can't decide which word is funnier in the context.
mortonjag 2007-10-06 11:50:07
QUOTE(GMC @ Oct 6 2007, 11:42 AM) [snapback]343492[/snapback]
There wasn't one. rolleyes.gif

And the only reason people never had a go is because JM never actually came out and said that an outfield player would need to be 2nd choice goalkeeper, even though that would have been the case.

The exact same thing is happening this time, but because JM has actually said that Dean Keenan would need to go in goal (and chances that he will are very slim) people see it as an easy chance to have a dig at the manager.

Well he's left himself wide open GMC, as Keenan's currently unfit.

I did point out this fiasco before. God forbid, but if Davie's injured or red carded for bringing down the last man early in the first half today, I'd suggest that that alone is a reason for total disdain. We could start our next match with NO goalkeeper. We can't seem to get players at Cappielow any more-the reasons are obvious to me. The Shoogly show is rapidly becoming a farce.
mortonjag 2007-10-06 11:54:03
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Oct 6 2007, 11:48 AM) [snapback]343502[/snapback]
I'll forward your scheming plan to the club.

It may well be implemented in two years time-pennies will be scarce in Division three.
mortonjag 2007-10-06 11:57:13
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 6 2007, 10:18 AM) [snapback]343438[/snapback]
Stop calling him leafy, please. blink.gif
Same here, should be fun.... ph34r.gif

That is his name.
mortonjag 2007-10-06 12:02:45
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 5 2007, 11:22 PM) [snapback]343254[/snapback]
Relationships in stables ? More likely to be bestial are they not?

CLAYMORE c***'s always claiming he's just had it from the horse's mouth.
mortonjag 2007-10-06 12:06:09
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Oct 6 2007, 12:00 PM) [snapback]343508[/snapback]
Can we not just cut off a toe every time they punt it?
It would get the message across more quickly. wink.gif

That sound a bit radical, but if you're going down that road, why not a foot?
mortonjag 2007-10-06 12:09:06
QUOTE(port-ton @ Oct 6 2007, 02:33 AM) [snapback]343356[/snapback]
you never see two spiders in the same room at the same time?
or is it just me thats never seen more than one at a time? blink.gif

Presumably because it would halve the chance of getting a meal.
mortonjag 2007-10-06 18:01:12 SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A STRIKER


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mortonjag 2007-10-07 07:48:42
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Oct 6 2007, 06:22 PM) [snapback]343718[/snapback]
MORONJAG IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A COMPLETE ARSEWIPE !

I'm happy this morning-BM, never been so gay for many a year. For the next wee while I'll love everyone. wub.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-07 07:53:25
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 6 2007, 06:47 PM) [snapback]343732[/snapback]
Congratulations MJ .
Has Jim came up with this solution to save his skin . The biggest question should have been why it has taken JM so long to come up with the obvious .

I had a quick word with Jim yesterday morning and settled a few things-he's going to let me run quickly over out tactics prior to the Clyde game, and in the meantime he's promised Jay will stay at right back.
mortonjag 2007-10-07 08:17:33
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Oct 6 2007, 07:23 PM) [snapback]343772[/snapback]
Chris Templeman isn't good enough for this division IMO. However, I think he can make a very good addition off the bench, with his touches and holding the ball up. Russell/Weatherson may be a good partnership, although I'm still not liking Russell very much.

In future we shall be assessing the opposition before selecting our front men. In some games Chris will lead the line up with Iain Russell, Spoonsy will drop a little deeper, and Jamie may start later. We now accept that McLaughlin and McAlister stabilise the midfield flanks, and with Gardyne, Walker, Stevenson, Graham, and Finlayson, our options in that area are plentiful. Jay Shields and Kieran McAnespie are, for the time being, our established full backs. Furthermore, we await the fitness of David McGregor, Dean Keenan, and Chris Millar. Ryan and Stuart will have more scope using this shape, and will be working hard at building up a better rapport.
Competition for places is now the watchword at Greenock Morton, and I will attempt to have a stand in goalkeeper available within a few days. In future, team selection will be the sole province of the Manager. The Board have acknowedged that this is the way ahead.
I am grateful to an anonymous fan who called me yesterday morning. I cannot discuss the exact details of our chat, though nothing he said had not occurred to me before.

Jim McInally
mortonjag 2007-10-07 08:22:48
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 6 2007, 07:44 PM) [snapback]343777[/snapback]
Aye, we should still sack Jim as well?

Don't be a Silly Billy Prof-folk don't get sacked for providing good entertaining football and winning games.
mortonjag 2007-10-07 08:25:28
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Oct 7 2007, 07:59 AM) [snapback]343940[/snapback]
You sure ?

Yes-I LOVE YOU. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-07 08:28:00
QUOTE(dj-ton @ Oct 7 2007, 02:22 AM) [snapback]343934[/snapback]
wink.gif and not one of you put him up front

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mortonjag 2007-10-07 08:32:44
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 6 2007, 05:18 PM) [snapback]343664[/snapback]
Very good attacking performance, and we showed that bit of ruthlessness that we've lacked for most of the season. Peter took all of his goals tremendously well, as did McAnespie.

I'm not happy that we shipped two goals but, in a way, it's appropriate, as there were never four in it. We deserved the win, but not by such a margin, as the same defensive errors were there for much of the game.

Great result, though, and well done to Morton biggrin.gif

I said to Jim prior to the game that our task was to get ahead and stay ahead-we both accepted that Partick have an eye for goal, but agreed that by closing down their midfield we could stay attack minded. They took their couple of chances well-footballs's about winning and that's what we did.
mortonjag 2007-10-07 08:36:48
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 7 2007, 08:30 AM) [snapback]343947[/snapback]
Aye, the moaners are really clutching at straws now. 5th after the 1st quarter of the season is a fantastic result, especially given the injuries we've endured.

This is probably the 1st time the guys could put out the team they wanted with one or two options in most positions.

Some of the comments are ridiculous and just go to prove that these people will never be satisfied, no matter the results Jim gets.

Every achievement is dismissed as a mediocre result we should have got anyway and any error built up as a disaster with absolutely no justification. Pathetic.

These guys are really looking totally petty, with not a leg to stand on.

Now, now, Prof, I'm doing my best to be pleasant to everyone today. Jim and I agree that we can take very little from one game, but we're working on producing more results like this! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-07 08:38:39
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Oct 6 2007, 09:14 PM) [snapback]343823[/snapback]
I've been pretty negative about JM recently, so it's about time I had the chance to give him a wee bit of credit.

Does it look to anyone else as if JM has realised that we get our best results when we put the ball on the deck and have a go at teams ? Recently, Morton have been doing this more than we were for a while, and it has been very refreshing to see. I'm not suddenly changing my tune, but it does seem as if we're turning a corner in the way that we play our football in this division, and with JM saying Peter will remain upfront, it seems possible this is the way it'll stay for some time.

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mortonjag 2007-10-07 08:39:28
QUOTE(Deego @ Oct 7 2007, 02:09 AM) [snapback]343928[/snapback]
Wasn't his idea.

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mortonjag 2007-10-07 08:44:28
QUOTE(port-ton @ Oct 7 2007, 02:12 AM) [snapback]343930[/snapback]
Ryan Harding has taken a lot of stick this season, and i have been one of the main culprits but today i thought he was excellent. finally started winning tackles again, winning headers and not giving away needless fouls. its only a pity that when one centre back plays well the other has a shocker sad.gif

keep it up ryan, you may all prove us wrong yet.

Jim and I agreed before the game that Ryan and Stu would be able to define their respective territories better alongside two traditional full backs. We also felt that David McGurn's vocal presence would add stability to central defence. Yesterday Ryan showed that he's always been the natural footballer we signed from Livingston. His confidence will return-mark my words.
mortonjag 2007-10-07 08:50:32
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Oct 6 2007, 06:59 PM) [snapback]343748[/snapback]
My take is

1) We have only lost two or three games where I thought we deserved to lose.
2) There are only two/three teams in the league who are better than us apart from our defence
3) We have been seriously unlucky with injuries - probably more so than any other team in the league.
4) We can get to the window without being in too serious difficulty and when we do, we need a couple of defenders. We compete fine everywhere else.
5) We need to stop losing bad goals. If we had only conceded the good goals scored against us we would be near the top of the league
6) Central defenders may be made to look worse by poor fullback play and lack of cover from midfield. Scott McLaughlin now back and was a big miss.
7) Weatherson should not play in defence as he is not good enough as a defender to do so. He may well be our main man upfront - grovel to MJ
8) McInally may yet be the man to take us forward (cue derision)
9) Top half finish is still possible. Contention is not.

If ever we needed proof of the proposition that two or three judicious signings could have seen us challenge for promotion, we got it yesterday.

Jim and Martin have opened their eyes-I believe they are now much more focussed on making things happen instead of waiting in the wings-long may it continue.
mortonjag 2007-10-07 09:02:29
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 6 2007, 12:36 PM) [snapback]343534[/snapback]
Oh dear lord. Your patter really is getting grimmer with each of your 19,000,000 posts.

Quantity does not make up for your lack of quality.

We both post quite a lot Prof. wub.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-07 09:11:10
QUOTE(TBI1978 @ Oct 6 2007, 10:01 PM) [snapback]343838[/snapback]
Exactly!!! Supporting Morton means taking the rough with the smooth. Hope you missed it you turncoat!! (Flighton I meant)

Today was sweet but I'll not be expecting the same every week - let just savour it and not get on the team's backs when (not if!) we loose another next game.

WE ARE NOT INVINCIBLE!!!!! But lets enjoy it tonight!

Those who are having a go at legitimate criticism are simply flying in the face of fact, while those who are claiming that the message board has a profound effect on team performance are being extremely naive.

Yesterday we showed that we can compete, AND entertain, at this level, despite the ongoing problems off the pitch. Jim and Martin have taken stock, and important decisions have been made. We must now look forward.
mortonjag 2007-10-07 09:14:33
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 7 2007, 08:44 AM) [snapback]343957[/snapback]
Don't think I mentioned your name.

Nor did I state that you had-the sun's shining today Prof-the weather's bright

off for my papers after a s***e! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-07 09:21:58
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Oct 7 2007, 09:13 AM) [snapback]343982[/snapback]
For me the reason we won yesterday was quite simple.

We played folk in their natural positions.

Well done to everyone.

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That and the fact that the Monkey's Mummy was at the game Willow-the last one she took in was against Killie. She really liked the new strip (except for the 'silly' adverts which she thought made it look 'cheap'). Well those Huns always think they're better than the rest!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-07 09:26:25 Arachnophobia in varying degrees is pretty common, and it's a pity, 'cos those wee beasties are totally harmless, and spin lovely webs-a work of art if ever. I'm talking of the Scottish variety of course. If you want rid of one, just stand on it.
mortonjag 2007-10-07 09:31:21
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 6 2007, 06:17 PM) [snapback]343713[/snapback]
Is it true that the entrance to the Clyde tunnel on the south side of the Clyde is to be closed for major repair work and that wee bendy Wendy will cover for the inconvenience by lying with her mouth open to compensate for the tunnel entrance.

She is best thing that ever happened to Scottish politics, its so good to see that the puppy dogs that are Scottish Labour really don't want to win another election.

Well ,c'mon just look at the level of uglyness, it beggars belief, was she forced to chew a basketball in her childhood.

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDNot QUITE true, redbeard-it's the North Side. The south entrance to the tunnel already benefits amply from the s***e laden breath of the adjacent Shieldhall sewage works.
mortonjag 2007-10-07 11:19:39
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 7 2007, 10:37 AM) [snapback]344031[/snapback]
That's the only thing that matters, yet you've been unhappy with poor Jim for over a year now despite him delivering that.

Now now, dont be a knotty boy- I've repeatedly said that I'd occasionally prefer to see us play attractive fooball and lose to the better side on the day.Yesterday we were great entertainment value AND won.

Our crowds were dwindling last season despite grinding out results-fast, adventurous football, with plenty of goals will redress the balance. Nobody would dream of sacking the Manager on the basis of yesterday's game-surely!
mortonjag 2007-10-07 11:22:09
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 7 2007, 10:35 AM) [snapback]344029[/snapback]
"MJ in taking credit for a Morton win shocker" - Monday's Greenock Telegraph headline... dry.gif

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mortonjag 2007-10-07 11:24:49
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 7 2007, 10:31 AM) [snapback]344024[/snapback]
Other "look at me" refs would have made a meal of it, though. They'd have created stuff to deal with.

I was a bit disappointed in Prof Underhill at Motherwell-yesterday my faith was restored. I hardly noticed him, and he only carded one player late in the game when the Jags got a bit petulant. 10/10 from me.
mortonjag 2007-10-07 11:28:55
QUOTE(btb @ Oct 6 2007, 07:46 PM) [snapback]343779[/snapback]
You know what they say about statistics. Partick are far better supported than any of the other teams mentioned. I still think it's a dissapointing crowd for a Morton vs Thistle game - especially at this stage of the season.

Two good results in our next (both away) games will see over 4000 at our next home encounter (with the Binos).
mortonjag 2007-10-07 11:32:01
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Oct 7 2007, 09:47 AM) [snapback]344007[/snapback]
Martin Clark is a sennsible person with a bit of a brain.

Highly unlikely to be mortonjag, unless is a clever attempt at irony.

Enough to take advice Sir! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-07 11:33:08
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Oct 7 2007, 09:29 AM) [snapback]343996[/snapback]
tongue.gif laugh.gif tongue.gif

I texted a couple of my Hun mates who were drowning their sorrows up in bank St last night.

It read

Peter The Bigot, closet Tim, and myself are going up The Hibs tonight, will we pick you up in the taxi on the way there tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2007-10-07 11:38:18
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 7 2007, 10:45 AM) [snapback]344035[/snapback]
Christ, he's now getting a slagging for not being lucky enough. Clutching at straws indeed.

Was it good or lucky enough to be 4-0 up after 49 minutes?
Counting not your strong point in your long and illustrious career. Try multiplying my post count by 4 and you'll be a bit nearer yours.

You do post quite a lot Prof! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-07 11:56:02
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 7 2007, 11:39 AM) [snapback]344075[/snapback]
You've been having words with the Ross County chairman, haven't you? tongue.gif

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No, no, I'm simply quoting from the sayings of St Haldane!
mortonjag 2007-10-07 11:59:40
QUOTE(C B @ Oct 7 2007, 11:41 AM) [snapback]344077[/snapback]
So Lee Robinsons broken finger didn't help you with your decision??

I'm not giving you credit for THAT one, i'll give you credit when Lee is back fit and McGurn is STILL there tongue.gif

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I had a word with Stu prior to the Saints game-just said that if his fellow Ginger one didn't start shouting he should break his fingers.
mortonjag 2007-10-07 12:03:00
QUOTE(C B @ Oct 7 2007, 11:43 AM) [snapback]344080[/snapback]
I can't believe you are taking the credit when we all know its the Monkey that does the organ grinding in your house wink.gif

The Monkey is by far too modest to take credit for much, though the annoying little fellow was waving at the Jags fans on our drive home-complete with his little Ton scarf-one or two actually laughed-good chaps those jaggy fans!
mortonjag 2007-10-07 12:08:26
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 6 2007, 01:33 PM) [snapback]343574[/snapback]
I'm in a loving stable hetrosexual relationship, unlike yourself laugh.gif

Sorry to dissapoint wink.gif

Maybe one day you will meet your "Cliff" Lets hope so......

So Hee Haw is the 'woman' you're shagging.
mortonjag 2007-10-07 12:12:53 Just spotted the fotie-a young Sir Cliff sporting a tartan c*ck strap. Is that Haggis Heid?
mortonjag 2007-10-07 12:20:21 Yesterday the old 'gentleman' next to us objected to our sitting in the 'reserved' seats-the same old chappie who was shouting about Offiong 'running away from lions'.

'That's three or four times you lot have been here-thae seats are reserved-can yees no read?'

I was tempted to lamp the ignorant old c*nt, but we just produced our spanking new season ticket books, and held them up for him to see.

He paused for a moment, before commenting-'Aye fair enough, but yees are no regulars'!!!


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mortonjag 2007-10-07 12:24:18
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Oct 7 2007, 12:18 PM) [snapback]344103[/snapback]
don't worry, apparently i'm a Gay.

Not just 'Gay'? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-07 12:45:27
QUOTE(C B @ Oct 7 2007, 12:06 PM) [snapback]344092[/snapback]
and was the monkey waving also.................boom boom wink.gif

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mortonjag 2007-10-07 12:49:47
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Oct 7 2007, 12:34 PM) [snapback]344117[/snapback]
McLaughlin was outstanding yesterday. The defence including our captain was sadly deficient once more.

Is that 'sadly, deficient', or 'sadly deficient'?


I was sad that we shipped two well taken goals.

The defence was far from sadly deficient.
mortonjag 2007-10-07 12:52:48
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Oct 7 2007, 12:24 PM) [snapback]344109[/snapback]
Russell did nothing of note yesterday and just chased tha ball about. For me McLaughlin was outstanding and maybe what we've been missing. Lets face facts we were gifted three goals in a game that could've finished 6 all. The midfield sat right on top of the back four for large parts of the game giving them no space. The defence is still calamatous.

I'd be tempted to call that 'Spouting negative pish' ratarse, but as I'm in a jolly mood, I won't!
mortonjag 2007-10-07 12:55:55
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 7 2007, 12:31 PM) [snapback]344116[/snapback]
Who? blink.gif

You really are rivalling NewTon these days with your cryptic postings.

Au contraire Monsieur, anyone who REALLY knows his Morton knows EXACTLY who St. Haldane was.

That's the problem on this messageboard-it's populated by too many young bucks who think they know it all.

You could equally well have ASKED for an explanation from someone who does! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-07 12:59:47
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Oct 7 2007, 12:50 PM) [snapback]344132[/snapback]
He booked two, Harkins and Gibson.

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You are correct-everything's looking up this weather!
mortonjag 2007-10-07 13:02:06
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Oct 7 2007, 12:56 PM) [snapback]344135[/snapback]
Partick looked absolutely terrible yesterday. No fight, no shape, no creativity. A good individual goal, and a decent 10 minute spell towards the end when we'd chucked it, other than that, they looked worse than morton at their worst!

Corky was raging at the side-I think he was pretty annoyed that we made them look so bad.

Well done lads-keep it up.
mortonjag 2007-10-07 13:05:09
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Oct 7 2007, 12:28 PM) [snapback]344112[/snapback]
Set the Monkey loose on him the next time tongue.gif

The Monkey took pity on him at half time when he went down for his 'wee puff' and saw the old dither trying to get into the ladies lavvy with his flies aleady half open!
mortonjag 2007-10-07 13:12:52
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Oct 7 2007, 01:04 PM) [snapback]344141[/snapback]
i don't see how calling someone Gay would lead him to follow it with a laugh out loud smiley. does he go around calling people Gay and laughing out loud at his own wit?

it must be a chemical imbalance in the brain, or perhaps genetic. or could it be conditioning - nurture instead of nature?

whatever the causes, it's clear that becoming a total dick was not a lifestyle choice: he can't help it and he should not be castigated for it.

I think everything depends on whether or not he actually knows that you're 'gay'. If you are, and he knows, he's being rude. If you're not and he knows he thinks he's being cleverly offensive.

Either way, I still think he shags donkeys.
mortonjag 2007-10-07 13:21:23
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 7 2007, 01:13 PM) [snapback]344146[/snapback]
Clearly I don't, otherwise I wouldn't have asked who he was. Was he part of the back line in the 50s? tongue.gif wink.gif

HALDANE Y STEWART-visionary, wheeler dealer, and architect of the renaissance of Morton in the sixties!

Produced such a potent and exciting attacking side that a fairly average defence was rarely troubled, and hauled in the crowds-over 12000 in one League game against Clyde in the old Second Division, and 21000 for an evening cup tie against Motherwell.

Hal eventually appointed Beny Rooney as manager, but for some time before that the man with NO previous football experience ran the whole caboodle and shunned publicity.

A true 'Director of Football'decades before the term was ever coined.
mortonjag 2007-10-07 14:28:33
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 7 2007, 01:16 PM) [snapback]344147[/snapback]
Ah, but are the donkeys Gay? Or gay?

Nay idea DM, I suspect that all that matters to him is the size of the ass.
mortonjag 2007-10-07 14:32:43
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Oct 7 2007, 01:20 PM) [snapback]344150[/snapback]
I don't find anything at all clever in calling people names, in fact I find it the opposite. In reality, as I said before I have a few close friends who are gay, I find it hurtful that some people get their kicks by calling people gay as if it were a bad thing to be or something shameful sad.gif

Yes, it's much the same as calling somebody a 'Skunk'-there are undoubtedly many nice skunks, though perhaps in lesser numbers than the masses who regard them all as malodorous.
mortonjag 2007-10-07 14:40:06 Small baked potato in the Microwawe-cheaper, healthier, and nearly as quick.
mortonjag 2007-10-07 14:53:26
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 7 2007, 02:50 PM) [snapback]344166[/snapback]
No, you're misunderstanding this board's 'reason for being'. Anyone who dares to disagree with its 'normative' standards must be castigated as a moron, retard, gaylord, minger, or worst of all, unionist.

DE my friend, PLEASE don't tell me you are the architect of that horrific Hee Haw.
mortonjag 2007-10-07 15:05:55
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Oct 7 2007, 03:02 PM) [snapback]344173[/snapback]
total attendance for first 9 home league games was 24289
total attendance for last 9 home league games was 25423

oh all right then, yes that's skewed by the 5255 for the final home game, so
median for first 9: 2576
median for last 9: 2558

dwindling indeed

...and the figures for the whole of last season (when we were TOP throughout) versus each of the two previous seasons! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-07 15:10:42
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 7 2007, 03:02 PM) [snapback]344174[/snapback]
Now if you had actually just said Hal Stewart, and not just concealed it with your pompous pish, I would have known what it meant. Keep it simple for us proles, eh? wink.gif

He'll never be simple Hal Stewart to me-every night I pay homage to a little statue of a devoted man who came before his time and was never forgiven by the missus for neglecting her in favour of the Ton.

St Haldane of Rocky Mount- I salute your memory Sir.
mortonjag 2007-10-07 15:20:28
QUOTE(C B @ Oct 7 2007, 12:05 PM) [snapback]344091[/snapback]
So why didn't you take him off WHEN he broke his finger WHEN it was still 1-1 tongue.gif

I had been called away to attend an emergency at the back of the cowshed-I cannot reveal details for reasons of professional etiquette-suffice to say several fans misunderstood comments about a 'crack', and one had been trampled in the rush.
mortonjag 2007-10-07 15:24:32
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Oct 7 2007, 03:12 PM) [snapback]344179[/snapback]
never let the facts get in the way of a good story

although i suppose you could argue that folks might have turned out in greater numbers during the winter months to see what looked to be a title-winning side

Hey Trumpet-the crowds have been dwindling- from their peak level. FACT.

If you require confirmation, ask MrRae.
mortonjag 2007-10-07 15:26:34
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 7 2007, 02:57 PM) [snapback]344170[/snapback]
Do me a favour Doctor, credit me with a modicum of intelligence if you please.

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You too think Hee Haw's an ass.
mortonjag 2007-10-07 16:47:13
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Oct 7 2007, 03:36 PM) [snapback]344188[/snapback]
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well they're much better than the 1200 against Clyde, but not as good as the 21000 laugh.gif

mind you, i used to go to the games then, so i have to confess to being a dwindler

Well spotted-Trumpet-you're an ace with figures-I will edit in due course!


Now, what I think your figures show is that last year when we were THE side in the league, we had only three more souls than in the previous year when we trailed Gretna, despite two large (one off) attendances at the St Johnstone and Killie matches last time.

Even more worrying is the fact that the year to '05-in a scabby division we really should have won at a canter only some eighty less went through the gates than last year.

Now if that's not dwindling crowds in real terms,what is?

Lies damned lies, and statistics.

The crowds HAVE been dwindling, AND you know it. Either that or you sit at your computer and don't actually attend games! rolleyes.gif

More games like yesterday's, and the pennies will roll back in.
mortonjag 2007-10-07 17:01:36
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 7 2007, 04:18 PM) [snapback]344194[/snapback]
I like Haw Haw, at least whoever he actually is has a sense of humour. As for him 'winding folk up', what's wrong with some people? It's a bit like getting all hot under the collar about Corporal Pike from Dad's Army or Herr Flick from 'Allo 'Allo.

I don't dislike the ass and agree he's funny.
mortonjag 2007-10-07 17:05:08
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 7 2007, 04:55 PM) [snapback]344200[/snapback]
No it's painted...also gullible isn't in the dictionary tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2007-10-07 17:10:51
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Oct 7 2007, 03:33 PM) [snapback]344186[/snapback]
Baked potatoes take half an hour, you're clearly talking about ready made ones out the chiller cabinet which have s***loads of the same additives that Super/Pot Noodles are filled with.

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So Mummy does the cooking for you son. A small raw jacket potato can be microwaved in five to six minutes, and is full of protein, complex carbohydrates, vitamin C and fibre. While it's cooling you pop in half a can of 'Savers' baked beans (no point in being conned by Weight Watchers or healthy eating labels-just check the calories)-and you have one of the cheapest, and most nutritious snacks known to mortonjag.
mortonjag 2007-10-07 17:13:05
QUOTE(princessTON @ Oct 7 2007, 04:19 PM) [snapback]344195[/snapback]
A baked potato takes 8 minutes in the microwave. My favourite noodles are cheese and ham. smile.gif

Exactly princess, and that's a 'biggie'-funny how the little 'know alls' actually know little! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-07 17:20:27
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Oct 7 2007, 05:14 PM) [snapback]344207[/snapback]
As you seem to be proving. Baked potato in a microwave, don't talk s***. Next you'll be talking about roasted cheese.

You are the clown prince of prats.

'Bake'-to cook in an oven.

...and yes, you can toast, OR roast cheese, though in your case you probably carry your own around for days.
mortonjag 2007-10-07 17:22:01
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 7 2007, 05:18 PM) [snapback]344208[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2007-10-07 17:32:02 I spend all day being nice to people-spreading joy on a glorious sunny day-a few wee jousts in good spirit with my old rivals-but general bonhomie all round-that -until the Clown Prince of Prats decides to re define cookery in one fell swoop.

ThornTON, for a purportedly intelligent young man, is in the immortal words of Mr Deegan.



A FUDD



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mortonjag 2007-10-07 17:44:19
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Oct 7 2007, 05:29 PM) [snapback]344213[/snapback]
A microwave is not an oven, the term microwave oven refers only if it has a convection element to it which would not cook anything from scratch in eight minutes, you complete f***ing moron. You clearly didn't understand the point of the last part, unless you were from Stirlingshire where they roast cheese under the grill.

End of discussion, I'm right.

Ha, you dragged up piece of canine faeces, I sense you're about to have a 'huff button' moment.

Of course I 'knew' exactly what you meant-JESUS CHRIST-you are SOOOOO f***in' blind-surprised nobody has bopped you for your pig headed arrogant ignorance.

A microwave OVEN is by DEFINITION an oven thicko. I purchased an excellent Toshiba model in 1980-long before you were a bun in yer Mummy's oven son. And YES-I learned about conduction convection, and radiation long before that!!!

Do you not even READ threads before knee jerking?

Why don't you 'phone Delia Smith-no doubt you have access to her dedicated number at Norwich somewhere in your huge compendium of useless information.





Cooking Hints for Microwave Baking

by: Ms. Cora Aenlle Printable Version
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Microwave ovens are not just for re-heating and thawing foods. You can also use them for baking as well. Here are some cooking hints for microwave baking.

· Cake baking can be more creative than ever with your microwave oven.

· You can bake cakes in dessert dishes, mixing bowls or even ice cream cones.

· Microwave baked cakes will not fall even if the oven door is opened.

· White and yellow cakes will not brown as in conventional cooking; however, because they usually frosted, there is no noticeable difference.

· Cake batter maybe prepared in advance and refrigerated or frozen.

· You may want to cook one layer and keep another in the freezer for unexpected company.

· For best results, ingredients for cakes should be at room temperature, measured accurately, and the batter mixed and baked according to recipe directions.

· The simplest and easiest way to prepare cake recipes is to lightly grease the bottom and sides of the dish with vegetable shortening and lightly dust with flour. Waxed paper maybe used to cover the bottom of the dish, making layer cakes easy to remove.

· Cakes dishes should not be filled over half full. Microwave baked cakes increase substantially in volume and the texture is somewhat lighter than conventionally baked cakes. Save extra batter and use for cupcakes.

· Bake one layer at a time and allow to cool no longer than 5 minutes, before removing from dish, unless otherwise noted in recipe.

· Overcooked cakes will be dry and slightly hard and tough. It is always better to undercook and check for doneness frequently toward the end of the cooking period.

· If you desire a cake with a heavier texture, place plastic wrap over the top of the cake batter.

· Cake maybe warmed or leftover cake maybe freshened by heating in the microwave on ROAST for a few seconds.

· Most cakes are less porous in texture and give best results when cooked at about 70% power. Thus, many recipes are recommended to bake on ROAST.

· Cake Mixes that are baked in 8-inch square glass or microwave dish or 8-inch round glass dish normally cooks at 8 – 9 minutes or till a wooden pick or tester comes out clean
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mortonjag 2007-10-07 17:55:32
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 7 2007, 05:44 PM) [snapback]344223[/snapback]
It's amazing what people get annoyed at!

I wouldn't have stood it from my own kids Puggs-if there's one thing I can't abide, it's a jumped up brat with only enough intelligence to be dangerous to himself. He repeatedly gets his rocks off demeaning posters who are not as bright as he is-that's really sad- but when he thinks he can cross swords with somebody with a modicum of intelligence and wealth of experience-that's tragic.

I imagine he's the only child of older than average parents, and has spent the whole of his sheltered little existence being praised, cossetted, and told he's the best little boy a Mummy and Daddy could ever have hoped for.

A I said, Prince of Prats, though perhaps to be pitied rather than vilified.
mortonjag 2007-10-07 18:03:31
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Oct 7 2007, 05:38 PM) [snapback]344218[/snapback]
Exactly! For a wind up merchant to start this read, which basically is a public admittance of defeat on a forum is a new one on me.

Victory is mine, shame that **** **** SW chose to quote him so I had to read it.

Then perhaps some kind soul will also quote this Sonny Boy-it was not an admission of defeat-it was the sincerely held opinion of someone who has spent more years than he can remember dealing with the personal prolems of people from all walks of life.

If that is not enough, it also appears to be the opinion of a majority of posters.

You, Sir, are an inveterate clot.
mortonjag 2007-10-08 06:37:56
QUOTE(port-ton @ Oct 7 2007, 07:15 PM) [snapback]344260[/snapback]
someones finally got to MJ ohmy.gif

i didnt think id live long enough to see that tongue.gif

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Have had a good sleep on this, and Aye I did overreact. I should be quite ashamed of myself, when I knew all along the poor young man is, on his own admission, brain damaged.
mortonjag 2007-10-08 06:41:58
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 7 2007, 09:58 PM) [snapback]344311[/snapback]
You must get annoyed at yourself all the time then wink.gif

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VERY poor example of its type Naitch-sorry 3/10 wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-08 06:49:20
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Oct 8 2007, 05:44 AM) [snapback]344397[/snapback]
Visiting fans are well up on last season, therefore the home crowd is effectively dwindling.

Willow, anybody who's been going to every game for the last five years KNOWS the home crowds have diminished, and my dear friend Trumpet is just being a knotty boy. Douglas Rae was girning about it last season-even threatening to make a lesser financial input if 'we didn't make the effort'.

It also interesting that he hasn't included the figures for our Championship winning year in the scabbiest of ALL divisions-you remember when we used to play quite exciting football at times!!

Anyway, the point is that games like Saturday's will bring back the crowds.
mortonjag 2007-10-08 06:56:48
QUOTE(Deego @ Oct 7 2007, 08:52 PM) [snapback]344292[/snapback]
I think LargsTON is talking about Stevenson at Alloa.

I've believed for some time that Jamie's head has been down a bit-he's a great wee footballer who at Alloa was pretty well the 'Big Cheese', so it's been quite an adjustment to make. I don't really think it matters TOO much where he plays in midfield-when his form returns he'll be a standout in Division 1.
mortonjag 2007-10-08 07:04:10
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 7 2007, 10:14 PM) [snapback]344322[/snapback]
Toby I reckon you're spot on about Stenny, I don't follow them closely but from what little I know I couldn't have put it better.

The Campbell thing, though, I don't think that's just a case of them wanting someone else for results reasons. On P&B people reckon it's that the relationship between DC and other backroom people has broken down.

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It's a strange scenario-Mr McGregor is becoming quite famous for sacking Managers, but to sack DC when he had the team at the top of the Division smacks strongly of (DC) refusing to be told how to run the playing side.

If that IS the case, he'd be an ideal man for a job at Cappielow.
mortonjag 2007-10-08 07:09:17 Kevin's obviously been working very hard on his 'end product'. He can still be SO frustrating at times, but he now has far more options when he gets up the right side-he's stopping the ball, turning inside, having the odd pot, laying it off to a team mate, and sometimes even getting to the bye line and whipping back a good cross.

Fantastic squad player as I always said, with a superb work ethic.
mortonjag 2007-10-08 07:18:34 Sanny gets FAR too much stick IMO-WTF more do you want out of him? He's been immense as our 'target man', but until recently we haven't had a striker to feed off him. We should be preparing for each game in advance-I reckon that of the three (Sanny, Leafy and Spoonsy), one (but not always the same one) should start on the bench.
mortonjag 2007-10-08 07:29:26
QUOTE(El Duderino @ Oct 7 2007, 01:18 AM) [snapback]343908[/snapback]
I just hate this "not good enough at this level", "cannae cut it" sh!te

Everyone of the squad, EVERYONE, is more than able to play, and improve "at this level"...

I wouldn't have loaned at Linn, but that's a call between player and club. Fine.

If anything, Graham would be the ideal candidate to drop down a league IMO....

I feel that way too-the boy's come through a wee 'purple patch' -well done to him, but he's still very inexperienced.

Bobby Linn did NOT get the chance to prove himself-it's just as simple as that.
mortonjag 2007-10-08 07:36:48
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Oct 8 2007, 06:12 AM) [snapback]344400[/snapback]
He's been tinkering with players positions since he arrived so I can't see the above mattering.

I'd reckon he was told in no uncertain terms, Lose and you're out a job.

He then has a 'Love In' with Clark and the team and suddenly all the players are playing in their natural positions.

The worrying thing is that it took this threat for him to actually see something was wrong.

The fact he thought Spoonsy was doing ok at the back is even more concerning.

It started at Dundee-Jim was animated-almost agitated-totally different body language than ever before, and on Saturday, he and MC were 'givin' it laldy' with the verbals. Let's face it, they just came out of a division where they could afford to be complacent-'We just need to grind out results'-and of course his players eventually did just that.

It's astonishing to witness what the threat of a P90 can do!
mortonjag 2007-10-08 07:43:48 Jim-'Ah don't care whit you say, ahm no givin' in aboot Weatherson'.

Martin -'FFS Jim ye'll need tae dae sumpin' or we'll be oot the door'.

Jim-'Ahm no daein' it-end of'.

Martin-'Ah'll buy ye a pint if ye dae'.

Jim-'Oh awright well-but only fur the wan gemme mind'.





mortonjag 2007-10-08 07:50:27
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 7 2007, 07:43 PM) [snapback]344268[/snapback]
Sorry, I don't remember you asking me any questions. What would you like to know?

I'm sure most questions can be answered by the fact we're sitting 5th in the 1st division, therefore, better than last season = more improvement.

Sorry to but in Piecrust, but I would love to know many things about you, not least, the number and names of your close friends, and whether or not you've yet stopped dreaming of getting your hole sometime.
mortonjag 2007-10-08 10:07:20
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Oct 8 2007, 09:11 AM) [snapback]344447[/snapback]
the league attendances so far this year have been:
Clyde 3784
Hamilton 3189
QoS 2804
St Johnstone 2876
Partick 3338

Median so far this year is 3189 compared with 2576 last year, so that's an increase of around 600. somebody posted on here that there were 400-500 in the WDE for the Partick game
by the sounds of it, anybody who's been going to every game for the last five years deserves a medal laugh.gif
that's because soccernet only goes back 4 years. if it gives you pleasure, i'll trawl soccerbase for the data you desire, when i have an idle moment - or you could do it tongue.gif

btw i'm not trying to argue a contrary point, just pointing out that if your perception is at odds with the 'evidence', then something doesn't add up

i started posting this data on an earlier thread where some pretty wayward numbers were being quoted, e.g our average home attendance this year is only 2800 rolleyes.gif when we should be averaging over 3000 rolleyes.gif
http://www.greenockmorton.net/forum/index....st&p=338096

or that the typical crowd last year was 2200 rolleyes.gif
http://www.greenockmorton.net/forum/index....st&p=338151

now we have someone saying crowds dwindled last year (which doesn't seem to be the case), then shifting position to a comparison with 03/04 (which might be the case)

but i agree that entertaining football and good results will bring in more fans tongue.gif

That's exactly what I'm getting at-we were averaging (from memory) three thousand in the third Division. My perception is that we should now be averaging a couple of thousand more, given the normal course of events-that doesn't tie with the figures, so in REAL TERMS, crowds are down-but we must remain optimistic!
mortonjag 2007-10-08 10:11:01
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Oct 8 2007, 08:36 AM) [snapback]344441[/snapback]
Disagree completely, there were various chances where our defence kept backing off instead of attacking the ball. Both defences were honking and the game could've easily finished 6-6 had it not been for great saves by both keepers.

Did you enjoy the game?
mortonjag 2007-10-08 10:16:21
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 8 2007, 08:58 AM) [snapback]344444[/snapback]
I'm pretty sure that Weatherson was an attacking midfielder when he signed for us.

Nach0, irrespective of labels Peter came here when wee Williams was banging them in, and in no time had overtaken him-say what you will about AW, he IS a striker, yet Peter's rare predatorial qualities made him the ideal strike partner. Just a pity things went 'tits up' that season-it could have been SO different! sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-08 10:23:14 If somebody calls an ambulance, the crew is obliged to turn out. Nine times out of ten they just huckle the guy to the nearest A & E to keep themselves right. Guess his self diagnosis was probably spot on!
mortonjag 2007-10-08 10:29:46
QUOTE(lush @ Oct 8 2007, 10:13 AM) [snapback]344478[/snapback]
Are the potatoes you use the size of a pea? A decent sized baked potato takes about one and a half hours, in a normal oven. 7or 8 minutes in a microwave oven.

Thank you Lush-I just cannot understand why that young man sees fit to fly in the face of perceived wisdom and get off Scot free-a bit like a young lass who became pregnant many years ago, having told me-'No you're wrong-my sister's been takin' her pill that way for two years and she's never fell'-and of course she then demanded an abortion! I asked her to discuss the matter with my partner.

Then again, I must keep reminding myself that he IS brain damaged.
mortonjag 2007-10-08 10:36:38
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Oct 8 2007, 10:31 AM) [snapback]344487[/snapback]
That's word for word what I heard. wink.gif

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mortonjag 2007-10-08 10:44:01
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Oct 8 2007, 10:34 AM) [snapback]344489[/snapback]
I like PieHutt's positive posts - he restores my faith in the 'fan' base ......... don't think about editing the fan word btw! Having said that , he probably shouldn't crow after each victory but simply watch how the moaners twist and turn things around so that that Mcinally gets no credit whatsoever. That can be quite entertaining smile.gif

Prof. Procrustes is a past master of making thing fit when they don't, Cloth Ears!

I feel positive after Saturday-JM is welcome to the credit for an excellent victory. If it all goes wrong against Clyde, will I be 'twisting and turning things' if I dare to ask more questions, and will your amusement soften the blow of another 'c*ck up'?
mortonjag 2007-10-08 10:54:09
QUOTE(upaclose @ Oct 8 2007, 10:38 AM) [snapback]344495[/snapback]
I wouldn't have thought trivialising a person's ailment was good practice for a GP.

Nor would I in a clinical setting-you seem to agree that his ridiculous postings are the consequence of his self acknowledged brain damage, and he's already had the 'Tilly' sniffing about us. Even after that he was making derogatory comments about a Chinese bus conductor.

As a RETIRED G.P., and ordinary poster, I believe that IF he has significant brain damage, he could post a wee warning in his profile-just as I have done about my psychological instability.

Mind you, that has not accorded me an ounce of latitude from cruel and scathing posters-sometimes my Psychiatrist despairs of my stupidity, but I just keep posting.

I'm sure you understand.
mortonjag 2007-10-08 11:18:39
QUOTE(rex manning @ Oct 8 2007, 11:09 AM) [snapback]344529[/snapback]
McInally realised Peter was a liability at the back and had 2 choices drop him from the team entirely or punt him up front, he chose option number 2. Wonder how Temps feels about it.

Probably a helluva lot better than if he'd been dropped for young Graham-if I was the Manager right now I'd be delighted we've finally got competition for places up front, instead of a Cellic kid 'striker' being sent out mindlessly week after week, irrespective of his form.
mortonjag 2007-10-08 11:25:05
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Oct 8 2007, 10:46 AM) [snapback]344503[/snapback]
i crank my oven up to the max and bake them for at least two hours. makes the outside nice and crispy and the insides fluffy and soft. wee bit of good olive oil and you're laughing.

what sort of a heathen would use a microwave for anything, never mind a baked potato?

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A healthy heathen LCM-by far the quickest and tastiest cooked veg. you'll ever eat. I used to see it your way prior to my conversion from Christian cookery-excellent way to do fish too!

The best baked potatoes are still done in a conventional oven, but they lose half their nutrition in the process.
mortonjag 2007-10-08 11:34:43 Ladies and gentlemen, one of the first principles of accurate diagnosis is to LISTEN to what the patient tells you. He's lying there as snug as a bug in a rug, with his head nicely placed at the kerbside 'pillow', blissfully sleeping it off. Some guy wakes him up and asks 'What's wrong?'. Surprised, he answers 'I'm pished', and gets on with the business!
mortonjag 2007-10-08 11:38:26
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Oct 8 2007, 11:28 AM) [snapback]344543[/snapback]
i'm not even considering to start to consider that that might be the truth. that would just blow my mind.

i've recently got into steaming my vegetables. the proper way, on an open flame, which is good for the psyche.

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The Swedes do theirs in a Sauna.

mortonjag 2007-10-08 12:04:54 Having just examined the left nostril at a higher magnification, I'm pretty sure I spot a human embryo in there among the mucus. Could it be that this is some poor female cross dresser with an undiagnosed ectopic pregnancy?
mortonjag 2007-10-08 12:08:48
QUOTE(SramTon @ Oct 8 2007, 11:55 AM) [snapback]344558[/snapback]
fact of the matter is that football is about winning - not about settling for mediocrity.

we should always be realistic, but we should never accept punching below our weight.

fans wanting success is not an OF phenomenon.

in fact instead of telling us to **** off and watch the OF why don't some of you take the principle of your own advice and go and watch a team like dumbarton or port jnrs? it'll be cheaper and you'll get the same satisfaction.

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mortonjag 2007-10-08 12:12:00 I might skip the 'Self awareness' evening class. I'm certain it's the right thing to do.
mortonjag 2007-10-08 12:56:54
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Oct 8 2007, 12:52 PM) [snapback]344582[/snapback]
Monday and Friday are my days off from my Marketing course. smile.gif

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mortonjag 2007-10-08 13:53:59
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Oct 8 2007, 01:28 PM) [snapback]344598[/snapback]
Russell looks good but he is always getting caught offside. If he got his runs in check, or perhaps the passes were better, can see him getting a barrowload of goals.

Most poacher strikers get caught offside a lot Weegie-the new rules don't help-once the others get more used to him the goals will come.
mortonjag 2007-10-08 14:02:10
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 8 2007, 01:34 PM) [snapback]344602[/snapback]
Weatherson has had chances up front and looked distinctly one paced and created very little.

I think he has done a great job for us at right back and given the goal tallys last season of McGowan, Temps and Weatherson - it was the right move for us at that time.

However with McGowan moved on and Temps not finding the net, despite good performances, it was a good option to give Peter a run, especially with Shields free from midfield duties, and probably a better right back.

I have no doubt that we will see Peter's versitility being utilised at the back and in midfield again, but if he keeps taking his chances like Sat it will only be under extreme circumstances.

Twaddle-what is this stuff you're talking about-'the right move at the right time'-it was a f*ckin' 'cop out' from day one, and prevented us from developing/signing a proper right back.

I agree, however, about his adaptablity, described by yourself in such imaginitive terms-surely he's not as obese as you imply!
mortonjag 2007-10-08 14:10:35
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Oct 8 2007, 02:06 PM) [snapback]344620[/snapback]
At the start of the season I would've said Robinson by a mile but he hasn't fulfilled expectations. Some of the goals he has conceded recently, his flapping and McGurn's performance on Saturday means I've changed my mind. McGurn should be first choice from now on. Will be interesting to see if Robinson comes straight back into the team because he is on loan from Rangers.

Agreed-Robinson displays many great qualities, particularly his reflex agility and distribution, but his inexperience and lack of presence behind an often nervy central defence has been a big let down. McGurn is far more solid.
mortonjag 2007-10-08 14:22:03
QUOTE(dumbarTON @ Oct 8 2007, 01:26 PM) [snapback]344596[/snapback]
what are u doing MJ ? laugh.gif rolleyes.gif

If I told you DT, I'd get all the usual stuff from the Board's 'chippy shouldery' weans. Suffice to say that I take in two post graduate adult learning courses every University session!

Och well-I'll tell you about one-it's entitled

'The Provincial Football Fan-Expectation Versus Realism'.

....and I'm NOT saying who the lecturer is.
mortonjag 2007-10-08 17:45:10
QUOTE(El gofer @ Oct 8 2007, 04:21 PM) [snapback]344659[/snapback]
Mortonjag, in your assessment of the team you state that McLaughlin stabilised the flanks. What do you mean by this?

I think mcLaughlin brings more of an engine to the midfield. He is a perfect foil for McAllister. I was impressed by Finlayson on Saturday. His delivery was excellent as was his ability to exploit the space left when Thistle went 3-5-2 in the second half.
Unlike Rastaton, I was impressed by Russell. His workrate was exceptional. We had them hemmed in for the last 15mins of the first half when they had the ball. They never had time on the ball and which meant that our back 4 were up to 10yards from halfway whereas they weresitting 25yards from their own goal. This was down to the pressing of our forwards and midfield.

Bobby Linn is back playing at his level. I dont think we will see him playing for Morton again.

Big Temps offers something from the bench.

Well done big McGurn. 2 cracking saves.

Well done Harding who had a much improved game.

I simply meant that with Scott playing left sided and Jimbo right sided we have two effective and balanced midfield 'workhorses'. I believe McAnespie and Shields can give the same sort of balance to the rearguard-they are far less likely to be drawn out of position, and that will hopefully give our two central defenders more scope-so often Harding's been made to look daft by other players needlessly doubling-if Stu's always going for the early ball, Ryan should have scope to 'play behind' knowing that Jimbo and Scott are tremendous at tracking back.

Attack minded, we're almost spoiled for choice now, and I believe it's absolutely crucial that we have competition for places. Although their styles are so different, Spoonsy and Sanny both link brilliantly with other attackers. Leafy will feed equally well off either once the team gels, and in some matches Sanny's height could be preferred to Peter's through running techique-indeed Russell might even sit on the bench in some games with those two starting together.

I think you're being totally dismissive of Linn-a young player who may yet prove useful at division 1 level, whle I agree that Leafy's running off the ball sometimes causes havoc even when he's not directly involved in a move.

Add to all that, Kev, Jamie, Gardyne, and Brian Graham-things ain't too bleak-if the other signings HAD been made we'd be right up there at the end of the season.

Robinson's inexperience has showed-at this stage I prefer McGurn too.
mortonjag 2007-10-08 17:50:52
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Oct 8 2007, 03:15 PM) [snapback]344641[/snapback]
On the whole yes but not in parts. Our defensive frailties were obvious and despite it being a much needed win I fear it simply masks over problems that have not been properly addressed. On the plus side, Weatherson and McLaughlin were fantastic and Templeman was on the bench.

Oh well, I guess I was just so happy to see the Ton back in front and playing attractive football that I didn't have much time to analyse the defence, though I did remark that Ryan Harding looked much more comfortable, and for me, put in a good shift.
mortonjag 2007-10-08 17:52:32
QUOTE(KangaTon @ Oct 8 2007, 01:30 PM) [snapback]344599[/snapback]
According to the Record today we have invited Austrailian kepper Ben Cheyne on trial. Motherwell and Clyde are also apparantly intrested.

Any details on this chap?
mortonjag 2007-10-08 17:58:51
QUOTE(port-ton @ Oct 8 2007, 05:28 PM) [snapback]344689[/snapback]
you sound like a celtic supporter, who say things like " scott mcdonald isnt celtic class " just because he came from motherwell despite the fact venegoor of hesselink is the dogs bollocks because he cost a few million from psv but is pish.

theres no such thing as morton standards but Jay is a decent first division player, morton are a decent first division team. if there was such a thing as morton standards then Jay definetely would be someone who was.

What I like about Shields is that he'll stick to his task-to me he looks more than comfortable at right back, and I'd love to see him make that spot his own.
mortonjag 2007-10-08 18:17:20
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Oct 8 2007, 04:59 PM) [snapback]344676[/snapback]
Is that a double P45 then?

At hospitality at the St J game, at his post match chat DDFR was quite critical of Templeman. Jim McAllister and Brian Graham were there, Jimbo getting the MoM and when asked about Templeman, DDFR said that irrespective of how he is playing outfield, he was brought in to score goals and he has'nt really done that, especially this season.

Incidentally both boys were really down about the defeat and keen as mustard to get things right on the park!

I've been trying to forget that old windbag, and you've gone and spoiled it. He may well have been 'bought to score goals' but that was ages ago-if darling Shoogly knows so much about football, why wasn't he saying, 'Sanny's been a superb target man for the last while, and if those responsible for providing players to feed off him had made THEM available, THEY would have scored plenty of goals.

Mind you the same incisive mind came out with this-

MAY HUGHES DANCERS

We welcome back to Cappielow today the May Hughes dancers who do their very best to lift our spirits high by their professionalism.

They certainly have that effect on me...and more! I was given a lovey framed photograph of the girls, with me in the middle of the group, something that I will always treasure. I might even put it on show in the club rooms as I am so proud of it!



blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif



....though at the moment it's out in the garden shed where I put it to much better use? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-08 18:27:11
QUOTE(dumbarTON @ Oct 8 2007, 03:47 PM) [snapback]344653[/snapback]
hmmmmm....... DR Jim Mcinally Phd in appaling tactics ??? laugh.gif laugh.gif tongue.gif

That's a novel way of spelling young Deegan's eponym!
mortonjag 2007-10-08 18:39:44
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 8 2007, 05:26 PM) [snapback]344688[/snapback]
[b]I think it's a bit cold of you to repeatedly remind ThornTON that he was nearly kicked to death.[/b]

I know you two don't get on but comments like that are uncalled for (I know it's rich coming from me but PieHutt was born that way)

Correction Bob, I'd have known nothing about that if the said poster had not reminded us -ad nauseam.

I guess you may know him personally, and see another side of the boy.

I can only judge on his postings, and frankly, what I've said of him is mild compared to his relentlessly arrogant dismissal of posters more than twice his age, (who have a wealth of life exerience)-and I'm NOT just referring to myself.

TBH I'd have Piehole any day-at least you can feel his vulnerable side, whereas an attitude like ThornTON's may possibly leave him vulnerable to a repetition of his previous misfortune.



mortonjag 2007-10-08 18:48:03
QUOTE(dumbarTON @ Oct 8 2007, 06:32 PM) [snapback]344731[/snapback]
laugh.gif ahahahahah nicely put tongue.gif have u any idea what 'Perthes Disease' is ? (and no ...its not st johnstone laugh.gif )

Congenital instability of one or both hip joints. If not diagnosed at birth or fairly soon after, it can result in complications like lameness and early arthritis.

Affected children have an op. to stabilise the affected joint/s, and their lower limbs are immobilised wide apart in a 'Frog' plaster for a couple of months. My pal had the condition, and despite treatment, he's always had a slightly awkward gait, though it didn't stop him playing football to a decent level.
mortonjag 2007-10-09 05:33:55
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Oct 9 2007, 01:00 AM) [snapback]344844[/snapback]
fragile thing, memory rolleyes.gif

according to soccerbase, the figures for 02/03 (3rd Div Championship season) are:
average 2333
median 1785
median (first half of season) 1739
median (second half) 2405

only one game had over 3000 and that was the final Peterhead game (8497).

For 03/04, the figures are:
average 2945
median 2895
median (first half of season) 3255
median (second half) 2618

so the only recent period with 3000+ crowds was the first half of 03/04, which was the first season in Div 2 after promotion from Div 3.

in the second half of that season, crowds dipped back to 2600-ish as things started to go pear-shaped.

since then, crowds have been there or thereabout, except for this season smile.gif

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OK, but before I accept that dementia has finally set in give me a couple of days to check those figures for our Championship winning year-the year our away fans couldn't get a seat at Methil because the stand was bustin' its seams! wink.gif

Soccerbase has been wrong before I'm led to believe. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-09 05:39:37
QUOTE(Marc @ Oct 8 2007, 06:32 PM) [snapback]344730[/snapback]
I agree to be honest, i think Greacan lacks leadership the way McLaughlin would have it

There's much more to leadership than shouting Marc. Unless you have the rest of the squad totally behind you, you're a non-starter. We didn't sign the sort of player we needed to fulfil that role despite pleading 'til we were blue in the face. Stu does the best he can and doesn't need replaced by anyone in the current squad IMO.
mortonjag 2007-10-09 05:41:51
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Oct 8 2007, 07:07 PM) [snapback]344744[/snapback]
Of course, been done before so don't see why it wouldn't be again.

Thanks for that Sir Alex. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-09 05:47:15 Well, for a start, I guess the players might be more inclined to listen to somebody old enough to be their Grandpa, than to the majority of those who do pull them to pieces in a feeble attempt to solve their own issues.

I suspect that one of the most common replies, short of 'a bunch of fives' would be-'Who do you play for then?'

I think this post is commendable-the abuse directed at individual players is often completely OTT.
mortonjag 2007-10-09 05:59:43
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 8 2007, 08:48 PM) [snapback]344768[/snapback]
No, don't I ever referred to him as obese... sadly you're not taking your pills and just making things up in your head again.

Who needs pills after such a brilliant hat trick.

Spoonsy was, is, and always will be a striker.


SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A STRIKER!
mortonjag 2007-10-09 06:06:52
QUOTE(SramTon @ Oct 8 2007, 10:34 PM) [snapback]344800[/snapback]
fair point mj, i've now edited my post to say what i meant.

You are far too generous-I was actually agreeing with the original version, and understood you perfectly! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-09 06:13:18
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Oct 8 2007, 04:46 PM) [snapback]344666[/snapback]
That's true, every time he runs it's like watching Monty Python's Ministry of Silly Walks all over again!!

Hey ratarse-what's yer problem this weather-too much 'buy to let', and the weans shoes wearin' through?

Did you expect somebody with Sanny's build to run like Jinky Johnstone-it seems to me that you must be a golfer of the 'Drive for Show' variety.
mortonjag 2007-10-09 06:17:43
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Oct 8 2007, 11:42 PM) [snapback]344831[/snapback]
Jay is a great wee player who as a right back up until the transfer window will prove his worth only for him to be nicked by another club on a free when his contract runs out. He will be like a fn brick wall who will give it the gallous to anyone who tries to get by him, they might get by but he will be straight back after him until they dont. He has energy in abundance and a heart like a wee bull, and the bite of a bull terrier. I think if we dont get him signed up we will lose him and will only have ourselves to blame.
Get it sorted sign him up now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh and by the way keep Peter up front!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It just seems SO obvious! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-09 06:28:52
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Oct 8 2007, 03:18 PM) [snapback]344642[/snapback]
Done a wee bit of googling for this guy. Put a post on the blog with what I found: http://greenockmortonfc.blogspot.com/

Curious to know ho his agent is JonaTon.
mortonjag 2007-10-09 06:32:43
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Oct 9 2007, 02:59 AM) [snapback]344851[/snapback]
I was referring to McLaren coming up with any excuse, no matter how bad, for missing a sitter, getting sacked, anything. My apologies if it didn't seem right.



So you agree he was sacked?
mortonjag 2007-10-09 06:36:59 My car's in for a service today, and I'm damned sure I won't be telling the mechanics how to do their jobs properly.
mortonjag 2007-10-09 06:39:35
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 8 2007, 06:23 PM) [snapback]344725[/snapback]
I tend to be more of a non-fiction guy myself although my wife reads tonnes of fiction. I shall ask her if she knows it.

A 'non fiction guy' with an avatar like that DM? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-09 08:13:28
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Oct 9 2007, 06:55 AM) [snapback]344870[/snapback]
Indeed , is this the first product from the conveyor belt of talent from Newton & Stan Webster , or not ? unsure.gif

Dunno-that's why I'm asking!
mortonjag 2007-10-09 08:14:30
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Oct 9 2007, 08:07 AM) [snapback]344872[/snapback]
might be obvious but does jm even know what contract he is on

Only one man can answer that!
mortonjag 2007-10-13 07:17:15
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Oct 11 2007, 11:42 AM) [snapback]345629[/snapback]
Let's just see what happens at Broadwood -
1 up front and play for a draw as per the Stirling Albion game or
2 up front actually looking for the 3 points.

.....or three up front and trying to entertain the fans! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-13 07:20:51
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 9 2007, 01:09 PM) [snapback]344933[/snapback]
Which is a facile, stupid argument.

unsure.gif

It wasn't an argument-it was an honest opinion-would you like some youthful 'know all' telling you how to do your job?
mortonjag 2007-10-13 07:25:09
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 11 2007, 08:42 PM) [snapback]345736[/snapback]
What's funny about it? People use fake names and hide behind keyboards spouting total pish all the time on here. Of course they're not going to say anything at a Town Hall meeting where they'll all be so far up Dougie's backside they could clean the inside of his hat.

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mortonjag 2007-10-13 07:33:59
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 12 2007, 10:52 PM) [snapback]345996[/snapback]
If we were keeping him at right back then yes but as a striker where is his natural position then no .
I gave up all hope that McInally would use Weatherson in this role considering JM's statement recently .
I don't doubt the lone striking role is a thankless task especially when McInally has everyone else frightened to get close to him but the fact still remains he has missed easy chances in games , even by the laws of averages he should have got at least one .
Yes I had a bet on him not scoring this season , I also tried to arrange the same bet this year but I didn't have the heart to take the money this term . Just because I can see and admit to his failings as a player does not mean I don't want him to do well for the club . I am quite happy to be proven wrong in all aspects of my criticism whether that be of Templeman or at central defence or even the manager .
I like Weatherson but admitted that if he wasn't scoring he didn't give us enough defensively . I think that is a fair appraisal of Weatherson . Why can't others admit to the same about Templeman .
Surely with a quarter of the league campaign gone it isin't too much to expect him not to have a league goal .
How can you deliberate a place in the starting eleven for Templeman when everyone else who has played up front is off the mark .
If Weatherson isin't scoring then I would play Graham along with Russell as young Brian has a better workrate off the ball than Templeman and has proved he can hit the target .
If Templeman can get back in the goals although he is hardly prolific then his overalll play and scoring would give us healthy competition , which we all want .

Chris-just give it time. We can now permutate among Sanny, Leafy, Spoonsy, Graham, and Gardyne.

Templeman can be extremely frustrating to watch, but I believe his ability as a target man has been well underrated-if he develops a good rapport with Russell, they will BOTH start scoring-I PROMISE!!!
mortonjag 2007-10-13 07:42:08 Of course it was a meaningless game. Mind you, if we'd WON 7-0, the resultant thread would have run to 63 pages of unabated joy!
mortonjag 2007-10-13 07:50:43
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 10 2007, 07:28 PM) [snapback]345296[/snapback]
Likewise.

I'm saving up to buy a house (in Largs it ain't cheap) and get married so away games are few and far between for me this season.

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laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Tall, handsome NS gent with GSOH and house in Largs seeks female with money and big tits.
mortonjag 2007-10-13 08:21:12 I've finally got an ISP that's good value-£9.99 per month, and recommended by u.switch. NO hassle with the changeover, and I've finally got rid of AO hell.

It's a basic service provision with heavy emphasis on customer satisfaction, and you actually get to speak to real people instead of anonymous bods sitting somewhere in Asia with their big flow charts.

Sure as fate somebody else with have had problems with them, but I'm delighted so far.
mortonjag 2007-10-13 08:26:33 Tea-a meal with Sam and Fred
mortonjag 2007-10-13 08:27:58
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Oct 9 2007, 01:29 PM) [snapback]344943[/snapback]
Why is there no mouse flavoured cat food?

There IS-they just don't advertise it 'cos cats cant read.
mortonjag 2007-10-13 08:29:50
QUOTE(upaclose @ Oct 11 2007, 02:14 PM) [snapback]345657[/snapback]
Is it better to say bigjizzc*** rather than big jizz c***?

what about bigc***jizz?

PRICKS



another name for



c***S




How phucking bizarre! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-13 09:06:48 A very amusing and enlightening thread-didn't realise Prof Procrustes Piehole is a Toly!!!

Anyway-my tuppenceworth-

Why should the taxpayer be subsidising inefficiency?

This has got little to do with individual posties who can't be blamed for trying to 'keep pace', but Royal Mail is a shambles.

I don't see this strike achieving very much-few strikes ever have-ask a Mr Scargill, and he DID have industrial 'muscle'.

mortonjag 2007-10-13 09:15:30
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Oct 11 2007, 06:00 PM) [snapback]345690[/snapback]
The most disgusting thing known to man... why would anyone waste vodka putting that fluorescent filth in it? Unless you want an ineffective vaccination against malaria...

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Chocolate Boy at his best. The most intolerant self opinionated poster on the board, and a mere child!

I must do better! mad.gif

mortonjag 2007-10-13 09:21:34
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Oct 13 2007, 02:03 AM) [snapback]346008[/snapback]
Aaaaahahahahahahahaaaaa!!!! The Cafe is the worst "pub" I've ever had the misfortune to frequent. It's full of middle aged wannabe trendies who've convinced themselves that, because they went to university in 1989, they're somehow "street".

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1989 or any year (OR university)
mortonjag 2007-10-13 09:27:56
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 13 2007, 03:22 AM) [snapback]346019[/snapback]
ARE you Luke Mitchell? I know your his spit but are you posting from Polmont?

Metal, horror film buff, forensic scientist.....you COULD be the greatest serial killer never to get caught.

But only if your heart's in it, mate. wink.gif

The Saltcoats Slasher.

The Ardrossan (keyboard) assassin more like
mortonjag 2007-10-13 09:33:53
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 12 2007, 11:28 PM) [snapback]345998[/snapback]
Oh no it's not. But perhaps there is a geezer called Nilbud Ninot living in a parallel universe who is a perfect palindrome of you.

Gajno Trom and Nilbud are good mates!
mortonjag 2007-10-13 09:42:02
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Oct 12 2007, 02:19 PM) [snapback]345866[/snapback]
I have no issues with Gordon Smith and think compared to previous incumbents, he is a breath of fresh air.

He may be right about the agenda against Rangers and if he is, so what? I was brought up in a nominally protestant family in the West of Scotland (which probably accounts for the fact that I have no religion now and brought my kids up the same way) and my perception is that, in terms of out and out bigots, Rangers fans are worse than Celtic's. If there is an agenda to try to improve that which is deemed by some to be against Rangers, I'm all for it.

I also share Gordon Smith's views about our ridiculous state funded educational apartheid which are denominational schools. I want all religion removed from schools in terms of practising it although I don't mind people being taught what the fundamental beliefs of the different major world religions are. If parents wish their children to have specific religious education let them attend after hours classes paid for by the churches/parents concerned.

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Nice to see the Huns winning at something for a change!
mortonjag 2007-10-13 09:44:14
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Oct 13 2007, 09:41 AM) [snapback]346054[/snapback]
Do you not mean w*nker? laugh.gif

DRAT-you've quoted me-he will now attack!
mortonjag 2007-10-13 09:47:45
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Oct 13 2007, 09:34 AM) [snapback]346050[/snapback]
Not started yet, need the funding first, doing these things properly needs the ability to move around a lot so costs quite a bit.

Maybe after my second degree I can start with my work!

Shall I p.m. my address Prof-I shall starve the Rotweilers in preparation.
mortonjag 2007-10-13 09:53:14 If that little chappie having such a gay evening to himself had stabbed the cheating b*****d to death instead of giving him a friendly tickle, I'm sure John Smeaton would have been a bit miffed.



...and Cellic would have been fined an extra 3 Euros.
mortonjag 2007-10-13 10:12:08
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 12 2007, 09:54 PM) [snapback]345994[/snapback]
Cheers Jim. Did you hear that Sean? It'll be Sir p***k from now on. tongue.gif

Sair p***k?

Where have I heard that before?
mortonjag 2007-10-13 10:14:16
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Oct 13 2007, 09:55 AM) [snapback]346066[/snapback]

Hopefully!
mortonjag 2007-10-13 10:22:02
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Oct 12 2007, 06:38 PM) [snapback]345936[/snapback]
i wouldn't be seen dead with one of those stupid plastic flags hanging from my mode of transport. they looked f***ing stupid on american cars after the world trade center attacks, they looked f***ing stupid on english cars during the last world cup and they'll look f***ing stupid on scottish cars tomorrow.

I think they are harmless expressions of somewhat puerile National pride.
mortonjag 2007-10-13 10:25:36
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Oct 13 2007, 10:22 AM) [snapback]346080[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDIf you ever manage to hook a female son, I'd guess you'll be quite happy if she looks like that at 45!
mortonjag 2007-10-13 10:28:50
QUOTE(princessTON @ Oct 11 2007, 11:22 AM) [snapback]345624[/snapback]
It's ok in moderation, so the doctor says. They have taken away everything else he likes, god help us if they take away his whisky. rolleyes.gif

Presumably he's not very fond of his Willie!
mortonjag 2007-10-13 10:32:06
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Oct 10 2007, 10:05 AM) [snapback]345164[/snapback]
What do you think he calls it? Gertrude perhaps? MJ seems like a Gertrude type of fella.

Rena
mortonjag 2007-10-13 10:54:17
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Oct 13 2007, 10:14 AM) [snapback]346078[/snapback]
It won't be good for the goal difference either

I don't think goal difference will count when they're not in the same league! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-13 11:14:10 Our thoughts are with you.
mortonjag 2007-10-13 11:16:46
QUOTE(steveoath @ Oct 13 2007, 11:13 AM) [snapback]346095[/snapback]
Be very careful with plus net. That's who I'm with. They had an (seemingly) unsecured database of customers' email addresses which was accessed by spammers. Needless to say I've gone from having no spam, to loads. After that they announced that their spam portection filter (usually a charge) would be available for free to everyone. I'd rather they didn't let people access my email info, y'konw.

Steve

As I said Steve, I've just joined up-I believe they had some teething problems. Are you generally satisfied with the service?
mortonjag 2007-10-13 12:43:40
QUOTE(princessTON @ Oct 13 2007, 11:18 AM) [snapback]346100[/snapback]
I wouldn't know anything about that. ohmy.gif

That's as should be! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-13 12:46:17
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Oct 13 2007, 11:23 AM) [snapback]346103[/snapback]
That will bring us back to do-oo-oo-oo-ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Gooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

00000000000000000000000000000000000deer
mortonjag 2007-10-13 12:48:24
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Oct 13 2007, 11:25 AM) [snapback]346104[/snapback]
Oh well, looks like it's just me then. smile.gif

Claire's still well pumpable, in my humble opinion. Although Mortonjag also fancying her has put me off a wee bit. dry.gif

And the bit where he was dying for a s***e in the back of the van made me laugh a lot.
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Mibbies I'm just at a funny age then. biggrin.gif

Enjoy the game this afternoon Tommy. We'll need to get together for a swally. I'm over the road the weekend of the Italy game.

Mortonjag's woman is considerably younger!!
mortonjag 2007-10-13 12:50:49
QUOTE(Loveless @ Oct 13 2007, 12:29 PM) [snapback]346110[/snapback]
Speaking of the cafe, the most expensive pint of lager in there is now £4 which is a disgrace.

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Four quid for a Mick Jagger in Gourock?

What's the world coming to?
mortonjag 2007-10-15 05:54:48
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Oct 13 2007, 06:04 PM) [snapback]346173[/snapback]
You wanting a better answer than "because he's a c***"?

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mortonjag 2007-10-15 05:55:50
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Oct 13 2007, 06:30 PM) [snapback]346179[/snapback]
But if anyone else is wanting to switch provider let me know! As MortonJag said it is a great service. I just ballsed it up smile.gif

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Well you can't exactly blame them for trying to hang on to you if you still owed them£100!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-15 05:59:14
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Oct 13 2007, 08:33 PM) [snapback]346222[/snapback]
let's do the same with the rail system and the health service. fancy flying folk to hospital in a helicopter (alliteration alert)
ah - you got too excited there

about time - a true political thread.

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I am apolitical-just hate the bloody lot of them!
mortonjag 2007-10-15 06:01:03
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Oct 14 2007, 09:14 AM) [snapback]346274[/snapback]
A good looking lady Deer.

A horny lady, Dear.
mortonjag 2007-10-15 06:07:46 I have formed the impression that Hee Haw is not CLAYMORE C*CK in person-but an inanimate keyboard accomplice! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-15 06:11:28
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 14 2007, 02:32 PM) [snapback]346401[/snapback]
There's nothing worse than a furry pie on a woman.

If there should be any pubic activity at all it should be limited to a well cultivated landing strip.

I hate flossing.

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....once you get used to six o'clock shadow!
mortonjag 2007-10-15 07:39:23
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 15 2007, 07:16 AM) [snapback]346580[/snapback]
I watched it for the first time, or should I say tried to watch it. 'Poor Frankie' would have been more apt, with wooden actors delivering a cliched script and the unlikeliest of storylines (how come a poor family was living in a posh wally close like Sandringham Terrace?). Apart from that it was fine. biggrin.gif

In the pecking order of closes, one never meets such snobbery as in that of the POSH Wally close.

I lived up two ordinary closes-then in a steel 'Corpy' in Bardrainney, before graduating to a common or garden half wally close, in common or garden Kilmacolm.

It was only after venturing into the big Weegie smoke that I learned about POSH Wally closes and their inhabitants. Prior to that I'd always believed that 'living up a close' was quite an ordinary thing to do.

Mind you, even our close was always kept impeccably clean-I'll never forget my Mum down on her knees with a basin of water, cake of pipeclay, and scrubbing brush.
mortonjag 2007-10-15 07:41:11
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Oct 15 2007, 03:04 AM) [snapback]346572[/snapback]
Warren Hawke saved my pal's life. Jazz Juttla nearly ran him over!

...in his Honda, I assume!
mortonjag 2007-10-15 07:48:46 I live fairly close to Hampden, and local opinion is divided between those with a commercial interest and those who are ordinary residents. Despite the tradition, I believe a huge mistake was made in not relocating, and I, for one, would have loved to have been able to access a ticket for Saturday's game.

I don't waste money on Sky TV, as I watch little Telly, so it was a case of finding a suitable pub or friend's house.

Having been barred from every drinking establishment in the area, and devoid of companions, I just listened to it on my little wireless. Good game though!
mortonjag 2007-10-15 10:28:20
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 15 2007, 08:33 AM) [snapback]346586[/snapback]
Anyone elses PMs not having a pop up on the site when they arrive anymore? Or for that matter having the thing in the top right hand still saying 0 New Messages?

Only way I realise I have PMs is by my email....something up Edinton or is it just my net?

Premenstrual syndrome (PMS)
ARTICLE SECTIONS

* Introduction
* Signs and symptoms
* Causes
* When to seek medical advice



* Screening and diagnosis
* Treatment
* Self-care
* Complementary and alternative medicine

Introduction

Mood swings, tender breasts, a swollen abdomen, food cravings, fatigue, irritability and depression. If you experience some or all of these problems in the days before your monthly period, you may have premenstrual syndrome (PMS).

An estimated three of every four menstruating women experience some form of premenstrual syndrome. These problems are more likely to trouble women between their late 20s and early 40s, and they tend to recur in a predictable pattern. Yet the physical and emotional changes you experience with premenstrual syndrome may be more or less intense with each menstrual cycle.

Still, you don't have to let these problems control your life. In recent years, much has been learned about premenstrual syndrome. Treatments and lifestyle adjustments can help you reduce or manage the signs and symptoms of premenstrual syndrome.






I always wondered about that kilt!!
mortonjag 2007-10-16 07:40:54
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Oct 16 2007, 06:46 AM) [snapback]346736[/snapback]
Scotland winning 2008 of course.

Any club winning a cup can be called a fluke (look at the midden in 87 i think), you need to be lucky in the draws and 4 or 5 good performances and your there.

International football is something else, we've had 4 or 5 great performances already in whats probably our hardest qualifying group ever (on paper anyway), and we've still not qualified yet, then we'll need another 6 (i think) big performances when (if) we get there.

Scotland every time for me.

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Ex-pat talk if ever I heard it!

'Mon e TON'!!!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-16 08:54:56
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Oct 15 2007, 11:36 PM) [snapback]346712[/snapback]
Shall be John McKendrick.

Morton games in the past: 0 (that I can remember, and it's too late to check)



Pompous and pedantic Chocolate boy! rolleyes.gif




When Should We Use "Shall" and "Will"?
14 Mar 2004

Traditionally, shall is used for the future tense with the first-person pronouns I and We: I shall, we shall. Will is used with the first-person (again, I refer to traditional usage) only when we wish to express determination. The opposite is true for the second-person (you) and third-person (he, she, it, they) pronouns: Will is used in the future tense, and shall is used only when we wish to express determination or to emphasize certainty.

Although this is the traditional distinction between shall and will, many linguists and grammarians have challenged this rule, and it is often not observed, even in formal writing. Personally, I still try to remember to follow it, even though the use of shall seems to be declining.

Here are some examples, applying the traditional rule.


First-person pronouns:

> I shall attend the meeting. (Simple future tense)

> I will attend the meeting. (Simple future tense but with an added sense of certainty or determination)

> Regardless of the weather, we shall go to the city. (Simple future tense)

> Regardless of the weather, we will go to the city. (Simple future tense but with an added sense of certainty or determination)

Second-person pronoun:

> You will receive a refund. (Simple future tense)

> You shall receive a refund. (Simple future tense but with an added sense of certainty or determination)



Third-person pronoun:

> It will be done on time. (Simple future tense)

> It shall be done on time. (Simple future tense but with an added sense of certainty or determination)


I believe that will is usually the better choice with second- and third-person pronouns. If we wish to express certainty or determination, we do not need to use shall but can provide emphasis by using an adverb, such as certainly or definitely. However, I believe that the distinction between shall and will that I mention above is useful with first-person pronouns.




Mortonjag's always here to help with your education. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-17 05:47:19
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Oct 16 2007, 09:34 AM) [snapback]346745[/snapback]
I will try to have as much time on my hands as you seem to but I doubt if I shall!! rolleyes.gif

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Once you retire with your little state pension, you will understand! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-17 05:49:04
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Oct 16 2007, 08:17 PM) [snapback]346887[/snapback]
Why?

If we don't you won't be able to reply tongue.gif

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He actually cheats-quite often he takes me off the huff button if he's feeling venomous! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-17 05:55:39
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Oct 16 2007, 09:32 PM) [snapback]346913[/snapback]
I'm a regular at all Scotland's home games and a member of the SSC but for me it has to be Morton winning the Scottish Cup.

In the grand scheme of things Scotland winning the European Championships is the bigger and more significant achievement but I watch Morton every week home and away and I think it would just mean more to me personally.

The option of Scotland winning the World Cup might make me reconsider.

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Having been at Hampden to watch the mighty Ton LOSE to them Huns mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif in the League Cup final, I can assure you that passions were running higher that day than I've ever witnessed at any International match involving Scotland.
mortonjag 2007-10-17 06:04:07
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 16 2007, 11:27 PM) [snapback]346930[/snapback]
To be honest Ernie , Temps can do some great things but more often than not it is where it doesn't make a difference .
My main criticism or more scepticism is due to our well publicised problems at the back . If Templeman is starting are we going to get enough goals to win the game .
I like Leafy his running off the ball gives others space but he always looks likely to score .
He could form a decent partnership with the big guy but you can't deny that Weatherson has proved on just one showing he deserves more time to get an understanding with Russell .

Indeed-I simply think an astute manager would 'suss' the opposition and select accordingly-against a fairly average height back line which defends squarely, I'd definitely put Sanny on with Leafy, and have Spoonsy waiting on the bench. Against a line up with (from bitter experience) a Marvin Andrews as the stopper, that would be a waste of time, and I'd not play Sanny at all-probably have Spoonsy, Graham, and Leafy, with the youngster starting on the bench.
mortonjag 2007-10-17 06:15:00
QUOTE(steveoath @ Oct 15 2007, 01:57 PM) [snapback]346625[/snapback]
I would say they're OK. I've been with them for 3 years and to be honest, there are prob better deals out there. They're gen OK, but have been a bit dodgy at times regarding speed.

Steve

If you mean upload/download speed Steve, the ultimate factor is your local BT line, and ours is frankly s***e, so I didn't even try to go for a higher speed package.

In terms of a basic deal, I still reckon £9.99 per month and no 'tie in' to a contract for the first 90 days is pretty impressive. I've already had to deal with customer services several times re. domain name, billing etc., and have found them excellent, so 'fingers crossed'!
mortonjag 2007-10-17 06:18:10
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Oct 15 2007, 03:22 PM) [snapback]346645[/snapback]
I'm an Adeste Fideles man myself.

Is he no deid?
mortonjag 2007-10-17 06:21:45
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Oct 13 2007, 02:00 AM) [snapback]346007[/snapback]
You're all a bunch of f*nn**s.

Is that possible? I suspect you may have meant 'A bunch of Pansies', though I like the term 'A clutter of c*nts'.
mortonjag 2007-10-17 06:41:31 My Mum and Dad were both brought up in Greenock, but pronounced the name differently-my Dad, who was a local historian always called it 'Weems Bay'.

I believe the inhabitants are either known as pseudo Skermorlians or lapsed Inverkippers.
mortonjag 2007-10-18 05:59:31
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Oct 17 2007, 11:48 PM) [snapback]347201[/snapback]
You know, i know, and every other person on this board,fan in the shed, fan in the stand, fan in the Sinclair St end, fans across the globe,catman,Lord Provost,the Tele,Inverclyde Now, supporters clubs.
That we wont sign any of them, id be surprised if we sign anyone in Jan transfer window other than somone like wee Jay who's contract will be up rolleyes.gif

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Whit-nae Gowsa?


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mortonjag 2007-10-18 06:03:58
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Oct 18 2007, 12:29 AM) [snapback]347229[/snapback]
There's me thinking this thread was about big Temps mellow.gif

This forum's dead right now Gibby but they won't LEAF me alone.


LEAFY RUSSELL WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A STRIKER
mortonjag 2007-10-18 06:23:49
QUOTE(steveoath @ Oct 17 2007, 10:27 AM) [snapback]346968[/snapback]
One of the good things about them is if your refer anyone to plusnet and they mention you. Then you get money off your monthly fee. In theory if you can convince enough people, you get yours for free.

Another good thing about them is that they have not hived off half their customer services to Asian call centres, like almost all of the competition. If I started a thread about this I'd take the usual flak from a few eejits about 'Racism', but my perception is that I get a better service from folk I can relate to.

Latest example-

My 'MoreThan' car insurance was up in August-the renewal quote was OK but after shopping around, I got a better quote WITH 'More Than', from an on line broker, so I cancelled the first policy and set up the new one.

I then discovered I was being charged each month for BOTH policies, so I 'phoned (India) to sort it out. The first Indian lady seemed to understand-she said she would cancel the old policy and I'd be refunded, but it had to be authorised by another person. A second 'phoned me back, and very politely checked every detail I'd already supplied, before assuring me I'd have the money paid back into my account, and they'd confirm in writing.

About six hours later, an Indian gentleman 'phoned, telling me I'd 'cancelled my policy', offering me a refund of the TOTAL sum for old and new ones, and requesting my no 'claims certificate' from MY OLD INSURER-THEM. mellow.gif

..and of course that's where you always run into problems with this sort of thing. They are competent people in terms of training, but when it comes to basic understanding of a customer's PROBLEM, as distinct from his language, they often can't cope.

Anyway, I was polite, and after about fifteen minutes thought I'd got the matter sorted. He assured me they would write to confirm details-that was three days ago, but India's a long way off, so I must be patient!
mortonjag 2007-10-18 06:42:16
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Oct 15 2007, 01:46 PM) [snapback]346620[/snapback]
revealed today that the police used special bullets to kill Menzes, so why where 6 shots necessary when 1 would have done? sad.gif

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7045122.stm

Another waste of tax payers money-they have to get MUCH more efficient when they're killing. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-18 06:46:18
QUOTE(Jackie @ Oct 17 2007, 01:19 PM) [snapback]347032[/snapback]
Dolphins sleep with one eye open and the dot above the letter 'i' or 'j' is called a tittle.

They were always talking about two titttles in Up Pompeii
mortonjag 2007-10-18 06:47:31
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 17 2007, 01:38 PM) [snapback]347039[/snapback]
Carrots aren't fruits, they're vegetables, biologically speaking.

The term fruit has different meanings depending on context. In botany, a fruit is the ripened ovary—together with seeds—of a flowering plant. In many species, the fruit incorporates the ripened ovary and surrounding tissues. Fruits are the means by which flowering plants disseminate seeds.[1] In cuisine, when discussing fruit as food, the term usually refers to those plant fruits that are sweet and fleshy, examples of which include plums, apples and oranges. However, a great many common vegetables, as well as nuts and grains, are the fruit of the plant species they come from.[2] No single terminology really fits the enormous variety that is found among plant fruits.[3] The cuisine terminology for fruits is inexact and will remain so. The term false fruit (pseudocarp, accessory fruit) is sometimes applied to a fruit like the fig (a multiple-accessory fruit; see below) or to a plant structure that resembles a fruit but is not derived from a flower or flowers. Some gymnosperms, such as yew, have fleshy arils that resemble fruits and some junipers have berry-like, fleshy cones. The term "fruit" has also been inaccurately applied to the seed-containing female cones of many conifers.[4]

With most fruits pollination is a vital part of fruit culture, and the lack of knowledge of pollinators and pollenizers can contribute to poor crops or poor quality crops. In a few species, the fruit may develop in the absence of pollination/fertilization, a process known as parthenocarpy.[5] Such fruits are seedless. A plant that does not produce fruit is known as acarpous, meaning "without fruit
mortonjag 2007-10-18 06:52:41
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Oct 17 2007, 02:50 PM) [snapback]347055[/snapback]
Poor effort Donga - alliteration my man !

A plethora of pussies, a collage of c***s, a myriad of minge, a labyrinth of love channels, a garden of gee (pronounced like the Scottish gie - great Irish word for the drayhorses lips), a field of flange
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and so on.

TonInDublin

A conglomeration of clitori?
mortonjag 2007-10-18 06:55:41
QUOTE(Mr.Kennedy @ Oct 17 2007, 11:07 PM) [snapback]347189[/snapback]
I love lamp!

Remove that f*cking beast-I've now cracked my third bloody monitor trying to squash it.
mortonjag 2007-10-18 07:06:00 I haven't voted-why should I, just because a few grumpy 'senior posters' want to rant on about the'Good Old Times'! laugh.gif

The forums will always be as good or bad as WE make them-I enjoy this Board, even if it has a minority of huffy 'know it alls' who don't like the fact that they're not in charge. rolleyes.gif

You just have to take everything with a wee pinch of salt, and 'all the world is gay'. wub.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-18 07:38:19
QUOTE(Rossco @ Oct 18 2007, 07:25 AM) [snapback]347256[/snapback]
The only part of this forum I bother posting in is General Nonsense the Morton forum is just load of nonsense only so many McINally must go threads can put up with.

If im lucky I will post once a day on the forum is just not that much to discuss in here.

Then even on the old board didnt post much unless was bored.
Hated the old layout of the board,

It WASN'T perfect then?

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mortonjag 2007-10-18 07:41:55 Having started several 'voting' topics, I know how hard it is to please everybody with the options provided, but 'The Big Question' just 'takes the biscuit'.


We are asked to agree with the original poster, and select from a delicious menu, our specific reason for concordance with his opinion!


Presumably the ultra scientific Professor Procrustes Piehole will be pissing his plastic pants in pique at the pathetic preferences proposed by the poster.

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mortonjag 2007-10-18 07:57:24 Much can be learned from the simple jobby.

Size, smell, colour, consistency, and even buoyancy give clues about the habits and health of its launcher.

At this stage I won't elaborate, except to say that we should all carefully examine every jobby-great or small- before bidding it a fond farewell on its long seabound journey. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-18 08:00:11
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 18 2007, 07:54 AM) [snapback]347259[/snapback]
The board has not been the same since me and the Bruce left ohmy.gif

Morning Hee Haw CLAYMORE C*CK-where have you been hiding. I see the Nats are making as big a c*nt of things as I expected! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-18 08:04:01 0-1


LEAFY RUSSELL
mortonjag 2007-10-19 07:09:58
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Oct 18 2007, 09:19 AM) [snapback]347274[/snapback]
Cant be arsed posting on the matchday threads, as others have said on other threads it takes away the purpose of the general Morton Chatter.

Anyway,back to League Business, with all the injuries clearing up i hope Morton take their play and result from the last game v Partick to this game v Clyde.

Clyde 1 Morton 3

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Clyde 0 Morton 1


Leafy Russell!
mortonjag 2007-10-19 07:15:26
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Oct 18 2007, 06:25 PM) [snapback]347378[/snapback]
cant reccommend plus net enough either...

ive joined them after tiscali put me in the high downloading group and blocked the peer to peer software from 9am - midnight... not really that great for unlimited!

im on an 8mb connection and have 8gb download limit monthly, costs 14.99. at night its free bandwidth... i only download an album or two a night before rattling it over night with vids etc before disconnectiong as i head off to work. ive only had to call customer services a couple of times, both times it shows on their website how long you will wait and it has been correct and im put through to someone who seems to understand scottish.... again time will tell.. no monthly contract, if i leave within a year all i have to pay is the 14.99 switch over cost. means i aint stuck in a long term contract.

i definately think paying for what your using is the way foward. theres far too many ISPs who are managing the internet traffic and seriously restricting the speed of your connection at peek hours. in many cases paying for a service you definately aint recieving. Tiscali seem to be hitting all time lows at the moment and customers are jumping ships very quickly... so far so good, im happy..........
im agreeing with MOrton Jag.. and again id happily be the refferer! to hell with all the monkeys above!

take it easy ya all.

I said it first!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-19 07:18:30
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Oct 18 2007, 08:36 PM) [snapback]347440[/snapback]
ah, that's more like it

Not exactly sure why Trumpet-ALL politicians make an arse of it-it's just that the Tartan Tories are excelling!

Mind you JM's got more experience in his field than they have in theirs!
mortonjag 2007-10-19 07:20:30
QUOTE(Edinton @ Oct 18 2007, 10:47 PM) [snapback]347474[/snapback]
I've found the perfect site for you Dougie....!

http://quotation-marks.blogspot.com/

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"""Im convinced hell find it profitable"""

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mortonjag 2007-10-19 07:41:30
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Oct 18 2007, 05:37 PM) [snapback]347373[/snapback]
In Holland the domestic toilets even have a wee platform for your jobby to land on so you can examine it at your leisure before fondly wishing it farewell as you flush it away off to its new life as fish food.

Question for Mortonjag... what's the definition of a 'healthy' jobby? Should it float or sink, should it be brown or khaki, smell like roses or, well, sh*t. Is length and girth a factor? Is the presence of undigested sweetcorn good or bad?

Please advise.

There's no definitive answer, though I guess the archetypal healthy human jobby is half way between the colour of milk and dark chocolate, well formed, and with a light mucus coat-the ubiquitous 'shine on yer s***'.

Jobbies which float have a high fat content-often associated with a light colour and vile smell they may indicate poor absorption of food. Black jobbies can indicate bleeding high up in the gut, ( or iron/Guinness therapy), and of course there should NEVER be blood mixed in with your little brown friend, though TRACES of blood after he's left are more likely to indicate anal problems.

I could go on, but the real secret is to get to know your jobbies, and if you spot any strange alteration, either in frequency or nature, contact the undertaker, as doctors have a lot to do those days satisfying customer demand per political instruction.

One final comment-sweetcorn in your offerings is entirely normal, but if you pass a whole cob, stick it on U-tube.
mortonjag 2007-10-19 07:43:26
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Oct 18 2007, 09:51 PM) [snapback]347461[/snapback]
Mortonjag.... in true 'Blue Peter' fashion, here's one I made earlier.

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2007-10-19 07:50:02
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Oct 19 2007, 12:23 AM) [snapback]347515[/snapback]
I blame cats. Wee furry c***s.

Aye right-tell that to a tiger!
mortonjag 2007-10-22 20:13:58
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Oct 21 2007, 12:24 AM) [snapback]348012[/snapback]
Let me know when I should start to 'worry' about you?

You really need to get out more - you are showing signs of an OF fans conspiracy theory

I'm just back from a lovely few days break in sunny St Andrews, Santa!


....and your point WAS????? huh.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-22 20:17:59
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 19 2007, 07:21 PM) [snapback]347692[/snapback]
PLEASE stop calling him that. It's nearly as bad as Spponsy.
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AH-my prediction was correct though Leafy failed to score-mind you Spoonsy was, is, and always will be a striker! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-22 20:29:43
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 21 2007, 12:43 AM) [snapback]348024[/snapback]
I wouldn't take too much notice, it's his way of doing things. Rarely shows his face when we've won, or played well. He does have good things to say about the club (I've read them, honest! ohmy.gif ), but he's far too immersed in his crusade against Dougie and JM, which is what he's remembered for. That and his ridiculously high post count tongue.gif

As I stated elsewhere , and for your information, I have just returned from a lovely wee break in St. Andrews.

I object strongly to your comments. I always give praise where due, and always will. Check my posts after the Partick match.

Furthermore, I do not post inaccuracies or lies about fellow board members, nor do I have a 'Crusade' against 'Dougie and JM', as you put it.

I've often said that I go to matches to be entertained, and sometimes have come away from a defeat, still having enjoyed a cracking match. I can't be blamed for the fact that our Chairman often appears to behave like a buffoon, nor for the uninspiring football that's been served up for a couple of seasons. I'm delighted with the last two victories and full credit to all involved. I shall approach the Hamilton game as I do every one-if we play well, I'll give credit EVEN if we lose, and I wonder how many others can say that.
mortonjag 2007-10-22 20:42:50
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 22 2007, 08:22 PM) [snapback]348647[/snapback]
Aye - if you want to us to be badly beaten.
Russell does the pressing and makes the runs that pull defenders away from Weatherson - giving him the space to score.
It has the making of a cracking partnership.

Ryan Harding was, is, and always will be a skillful footballer
mortonjag 2007-10-23 06:53:51
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 22 2007, 10:15 PM) [snapback]348680[/snapback]
You robbed Thorton of one of his loves on this forum.

If he does himself in between now and Saturday we're blaming you :

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mortonjag 2007-10-23 06:59:07 I find it a pest and I have LOADS of time to waste as I'm constantly reminded. It must be a nightmare for normal people. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-23 07:01:56
QUOTE(capello @ Oct 22 2007, 12:39 PM) [snapback]348503[/snapback]
Surely the jag will be on soon demanding Mcinally's resignation as well as Dougies heid on a plate after this outburst?. laugh.gif

We have all known for years spoonsy is not a defender ,hardly a stroke of genius moving him upfront but horses for courses and all that!!

Rather have a plate of haggis-mind you... unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-23 07:07:58
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 22 2007, 09:03 PM) [snapback]348656[/snapback]
4th due to an act of self preservation i.e the reinstatement of our best striker to his rightful position .
If he is plaudited for moving Weatherson upfront shouldn't he also have been carpeted for depriving the club of Spoonsy's threat by keeping him at right back for so long .
He has saved himself for the time being although I don't think I'll ever be convinced about his suitability as manager .

Nothing has really changed just because we've strung together 6 points, though JM must get credit for admitting finally he made a huge mistake with Spoonsy all along. Hamilton will be a huge test for all of us-if we go there and beat them at football, that will give Jim a huge fillip in the credibility stakes.
mortonjag 2007-10-23 07:10:22
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 22 2007, 09:17 PM) [snapback]348662[/snapback]
And that's relevant to my post - why?

Presumably because yours was irrelevant to the topic! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-23 07:16:59
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Oct 22 2007, 10:44 PM) [snapback]348683[/snapback]
That you come across as being too negative - you should get to yoga or pilates or try some positive relaxation techniques
- alternatively you could get pished on red wine and post at 12:30am

St Andrews is pretty good - really like Crail, fantastic harbour and the golf hotel sells a mean pint!

I have a huge confession-in an attempt to unwind from the daily toils of keeping you lot right, I watched the Old Firm game in the Victoria Cafe in St. Andrews. I couldn't believe how civilised it was-just a wee bit of clapping when the Huns scored, and a few slightly glum faces elsewhere-then I sat on tenterhooks in the caravan watching the teletext scores for the first division!

No red wine mind, just a couple of large Cappuchinos and a soda water and lime!
mortonjag 2007-10-23 07:22:04
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 22 2007, 07:45 PM) [snapback]348631[/snapback]
Having seen what I've seen from all the other teams I'd say that at the start of the season Morton were 4 players away from a serious promotion challenge. Hindsight is a wonderful thing of course.
As stated above, the squad is too small to push but should be comfortable in retaining first division football. The problem I can see it that to get out of the second division you can sign second division players but to get out of the first you need first division or former SPL players, Russell is proof of this as I see it. He runs around a lot but has no end product and is nowhere near as good as we need for a promotion push.

Don't be a Silly Billy. Leafy's goals will come. Mark my words.

Back to the topic-we will not be challenging for promotion this year, but could have been if certain people had listened to the advice of certain others!
mortonjag 2007-10-23 07:24:03
QUOTE(CraigoTON @ Oct 22 2007, 11:22 PM) [snapback]348696[/snapback]
dont start me with that thing.

i cant stand it!

The monkey wants to know if your avatar's a female.
mortonjag 2007-10-23 07:30:54 When sewage boats are being designed, the Naval Architect has to know the specific gravity of the jobbies in the area in which they will operate. Edinburgh jobbies were traditionally lighter than Glasgow and W. of Scotland keech, as they contained more fat (a sign of more affluent living), though with emphasis on healthy eating in the last decade that may well have changed!
mortonjag 2007-10-23 07:36:18
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Oct 19 2007, 11:59 PM) [snapback]347739[/snapback]
The fact that Lewis is black?

Shame on the board's racists. mad.gif

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Lewis is distinctly 'cafe au lait', Mr. Trollbuster, and more British than roast beef.
mortonjag 2007-10-23 07:39:05
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 22 2007, 08:58 AM) [snapback]348441[/snapback]
Actually yes, there is. I'm not sure if that's its exact title but such an organisation does exist.

It is patently ridiculous to have laws banning racism and so-called homophobia (why don't they have a law banning arachnophobia?) and at the same time to have organisations such as the Association of Black Police Officers and the Association of Gay Police Officers. The very existence of these organisations is of course discriminatory, but in PC land these things only work in one direction. They attempt to justify their existence on the spurious grounds that they are minorities and are persecuted, and woe betide anyone who pounts out the inconsistencies.

I'd like to see someone start up an Association of White Police Officers, just to see what happened.

Incidentally, I wonder if white police officers are allowed to join the ABPO? Or heterosexual officers the AGPO? If not, presumably these organisations are guilty of an offence.

I don't agree with discrimination in any shape or form but sometimes some groups of people make it very hard to defend their attempts to portray themselves as victims.

Surely you meant -white, monogamous, heterosexual police officers! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-23 07:41:56
QUOTE(Edinton @ Oct 22 2007, 10:24 PM) [snapback]348682[/snapback]
Anyone ever edit and or convert DVDs into smaller 'bits' (mpegs for example)?

Basically I've got a DVD of a football tournament I played in which I've decrypted and ripped so it's now on my PC in VOB format....but I'd like to be able edit it and cut the bits where we're in it out, then save them as their own sections (then maybe put them all back together again as DVD). That make sense?

So, anyone know of any (hopefully free) programs that convert VOB files to mpeg/avi or similar? It needs to be able to let me convert specific sections of the VOB files....

Hey Mr Mod, are ye no speakin' tae yer gaffer? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-23 09:44:34
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 23 2007, 08:44 AM) [snapback]348754[/snapback]
Dr. Mortonjobby, Professor of Scatology.

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I prefer coprology Mr Edwards, though your nice little word made me think of escatology-the study of the end of the world.

Don't let yourself become too costive or you may end up thinking the world has fallen out of your bottom-plenty of healthy fibre and lots and lots of fluid, are a simple way to avoid that catastrophe!
mortonjag 2007-10-23 09:46:06 Princess Anne looks like a horse.
mortonjag 2007-10-23 13:44:56
QUOTE(Edinton @ Oct 23 2007, 10:35 AM) [snapback]348773[/snapback]
Huh?

Thought Mr Tontastic was good at such things!
mortonjag 2007-10-24 07:58:43
QUOTE(Doc @ Oct 23 2007, 05:15 PM) [snapback]348983[/snapback]
Sounds like a regular old dose of food poisoning, probably by Staphylococcus (common cause of poisoning by seafood). Salmonella or some of the other really bad ones would have killed you, or at least hospitalised you, by now.

The charcoal helps by absorbing any toxins that the bacteria might be releasing into your system. Its the cheapest way to treat food poisoning and works pretty well. Try not to puke after the charcoal...makes a right mess of the toilet!!

You should be right as rain in a day or two.

Also important to maintain hydration with frequent small sips of electroyte mixture, but nil else orally.
mortonjag 2007-10-24 08:02:05
QUOTE(Jackie @ Oct 24 2007, 07:42 AM) [snapback]349126[/snapback]
The game needs its characters and Boruc is definately one of them.

Some of the things written about him are unbelievable. Only in Scotland, a secteranian filled nation, would people have a go at a man blessing himself. Howcome you never hear a peep about it when other SPL teams do it, or half the Barca team last night or even when Rangers players like Lorenzo Amarouso done it?

Don't get me wrong though, not shaking hands is pathetic, even if he does try to brush it off by saying he has broken fingers and being as blunt as he was is a bit OTT however I must admit it did bring a smile to my face, the big guys mental.

I strongly believe he's being turned into some sort of hate figure in Scottish football for precious little.

I disagree-he's a big wean on a big wage and ego trip. Bill Leckie summed him up perfectly in Monday's 'Sun'.
mortonjag 2007-10-24 08:12:23 My fairly extensive experience of Indian call centres has merely confirmed what I already knew-a working knowledge of a foreign language does NOT mean an ability to relate meaningfully to its native speakers, and no amount of politeness is an excuse for incompetence.
mortonjag 2007-10-24 14:27:55
QUOTE(coachayr50 @ Oct 23 2007, 09:23 PM) [snapback]349047[/snapback]
Craig Elvin ( Melbourne Knights ) Mark Viduka's former club.

Thank you Sir-and I'll explain-one of Mr Webster's babes! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-25 06:19:28 Hamilton have been a revelation this season, but no team is invincible, and who better to burst their balloon than the side they cynically kicked off the park last time with the assistance of a weak Ref?


Again I'm predicting a 1-0 victory for the rejuvenated Ton. In a dour battle, Leafy will score a poacher's goal to send us home 'c*** a hoop'!


FFS-KOK A HUPE then. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-25 06:27:15
QUOTE(CraigoTON @ Oct 23 2007, 07:21 PM) [snapback]349021[/snapback]
sorry, the monkeys male

Are you sure that's a monkey-my wee pal swears it's got a few ursine genes?
mortonjag 2007-10-25 06:32:05
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Oct 23 2007, 03:20 PM) [snapback]348943[/snapback]
Are the "certain people" Dougie and Jim and the "certain others" you?

You are almost correct, but several others agreed with my proposition that two or three judicious signings could have seen us challenge for promotion. At the moment things don't look nearly so bad as some predicted, and I'm delighted, but don't imagine the old problems have gone away. Football's a funny old game!
mortonjag 2007-10-25 06:35:06
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Oct 24 2007, 01:36 AM) [snapback]349120[/snapback]
I am glad we didn't panic buy

I am glad we have a team that looks like it can stay in the 1st division this season.

what was the plan anyway?

consolidate our place as a 1st div team and make a challenge for the SPL next season?

looks good from where I am.

Hamilton are looking strong.. but look how many years they have been 1st division mid tablers

There was no plan.

Lady luck has smiled on us so far, and describing the closed season debacle as part of a cunning consolidatory scheme is puerile in the extreme.
mortonjag 2007-10-25 06:39:01
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 24 2007, 11:33 PM) [snapback]349320[/snapback]
Blamed the kids for mucking about with the pc !
Should be a laugh when DDFR tries to sneak on .

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mortonjag 2007-10-25 06:41:20
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Oct 24 2007, 02:36 PM) [snapback]349191[/snapback]
From what I hear he wasnt that impressive despite his two goals.

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I'd love to sign a 'not too impressive' guy who'd knock in two every time! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-25 06:44:59
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 24 2007, 11:47 PM) [snapback]349323[/snapback]
Had we considered Weatherson as a striker before the transfer window closed would we needed to have signed Gardyne ?
When we could have strengthened the defence
?
So what about the statement that Weatherson wasn't fit enough to play upfront ? Was that a joke or a cunning plan by JM to motivate the man he always knew had that star quality .
Desperate times call for desperate measure , McInally knew if he didn't get a result against Thistle he'd be in trouble . Weatherson was his only hope of getting a goal threat alongside Russell immediately .

A point that was made ad nauseam by at least one poster! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-25 06:47:21 Cameron Barbarossa!

Welcome to the world-I hope you enjoy it!
mortonjag 2007-10-25 07:02:09
QUOTE(Youngsa @ Oct 24 2007, 05:39 PM) [snapback]349224[/snapback]
If you feel that tit is offensive and obscene then you've never truely been insulted.

Can you explain who I've been taken in by then? Second thoughts dont bother - I would only be tempted to reply again.

Yes its the same Union thats falling apart at the seams but thats the way it goes sometimes. Cant wait for the independent utopia that people think is on its way - but dont hold your breath - the SNP are every bit as incompetent in government as was Scottish Labour - but on the plus side we're getting 1000 new police officers rolleyes.gif and it doesnt cost me a fiver a week to get home anymore(hurrah)

Oh and getting back to the origin of the thread - have you contacted Princess Anne yet to see why she became patron of the SRU or were you not really interested and just wanted to score petty points - oh wait you wouldn't do that would you.

Fair play to you yer a persistent wee tit (dont get offended) but I've got better things to do than keep on replying to this so I'll leave my contribution to this thread at this. smile.gif

Cheers

Imagine giving in to CLAYMORE C*CK so easily!!! sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-25 07:03:36 Football should be about scoring goals.
mortonjag 2007-10-25 07:05:15
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Oct 24 2007, 11:38 AM) [snapback]349159[/snapback]
He's just another uppity Roman Catholic who will be put in his place soon enough.

And it won't be pole position.
mortonjag 2007-10-25 07:12:08
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Oct 24 2007, 08:14 AM) [snapback]349132[/snapback]
Thanks for the advice , much appreciated , I'm feeling a lot better , I'd say 90%
PMSL laugh.gif Cracker man
Will continue this process thanks for the advice , but should I also drink plenty water ? I've had some plain bread with nothing on it and I now feel my appetite returning ; I reckon I'm sorted !! smile.gif

Sorry to have been so quiet WDE-I've been neglecting my duties to my felows on the Board recently on their advice!

Looks like you're on the mend-once the skitters stop, and you're eating normal food, there's no need for more electrolyte mixture.
mortonjag 2007-10-25 07:14:22 I excelled at sums.
mortonjag 2007-10-25 07:16:37 What a beautiful week we've had-I'm just wondering what it will be like come October.
mortonjag 2007-10-25 10:39:39
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Oct 25 2007, 10:12 AM) [snapback]349396[/snapback]
Jings , serious problems compared to what I am recovering from. Glad you both survived to tell the tale. Dairy products , yah , I was also told to avoid those after my last bout of food poisoing in Auckland which I brought with me from Fiji ; it was a bit late though as I was downing pints of milk unbeknown that was encouring the bacteria to reproduce , I was just trying to put a lining on my stomach like as you do before going on teh bevvy ; thankfully I knew not to use dairy products this time around from past experiance.
Thanks again MJ , I reckon I am about 97% now. As for normal food ; I will get back to Scotland, won't be long until I get some wholesome stuff like a good sausage supper with gravy , tins of Heinz Lentil soup, Granny's chicken and vegetable broth with rice , pizzas from Luigis , super noodles , slice rolls and tottie scones, etc CANNAE WAIT !!
[b]
PS , My pee is still yellow and so I reckon I am still a bit dehydrated.[/b] I had diaoreeah yes , but to honest I havent passed anything for a couple of days now , I reckon it could be down to not eating anything othere than a slice of bare bread.

Indeed and now the infection seems to have cleared, your bowel is sacrificing fluid to your circulation to compensate. Just drink as much as you can.

You KNOW what I mean BTW!!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-25 10:41:20
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 25 2007, 10:13 AM) [snapback]349397[/snapback]
He lost the argument when he had to resort to petty insults Earnie laugh.gif

Not something either of us would induge in Tartan Testicles! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-25 10:43:48
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Oct 25 2007, 10:29 AM) [snapback]349410[/snapback]
This thread is a load of sh1te.

If you've ever had worms, your s***e is a load of thread.
mortonjag 2007-10-25 10:46:04
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Oct 25 2007, 09:23 AM) [snapback]349390[/snapback]
Actually, there was a plan A but when that went pear shaped there was no plan B and the management ended up playing it by ear thereafter. And yes, I concede there were panicky and ill considered signings plus PR was lousy plus there was the strips fiasco not to mention the season tickets' last minute arrival.

But come on, apart from that everything was fine!! rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2007-10-25 10:48:57
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Oct 25 2007, 10:44 AM) [snapback]349430[/snapback]
Yes Doctor , SURE , I know what you mean cool.gif

Seriously , not interested in cupious amounts of alcohol at the moment, no desire for it , alcohol gets boring after a while , I really enjoy when I am able to resist and have a day of sobriety

I understand.

I've been very good recently with my addictive propensity for this bloody messageboard!
mortonjag 2007-10-26 06:10:20
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Oct 25 2007, 01:01 PM) [snapback]349478[/snapback]
As posted on P&B

I would be inclined to match up with Hamilton's formation on saturday, and drop Russell to the bench for another midfielder, probably Gardyne, as i think this would give us the best chance of actually winning some balls in midfield, which looks to be the foundation of Accies success so far this season. If we go with 4-4-2, I can see us getting overrun in the middle of the park as Neil, McArthur and McArthy all seem to be really good players who, I feel, would dominate us unless we drop and extra man into the equation. We could play Gardyne wide left and move Stevenson inside, where he is more effective anyway. Other than that it would be the same side that won the last 2 games.

Should be a decent game, and i think we'll compete a lot better than we did in the game at Cappielow.

Alternatively, we coud just try awful, awful hard, to beat them-it often works.
mortonjag 2007-10-26 06:16:32
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Oct 25 2007, 11:04 PM) [snapback]349653[/snapback]
I don't really see what's funny about it. I'm just telling you what I heard.

Knocking in two goals in a bounce game doesn't mean anything. I've no idea how he played personally but if a Morton reserve team were capable of beating a Dundee team 4-1 I doubt the Dundee team was up to much.

Hey you-lighten up!

Knocking in two goals in a 'bounce game' means you can knock in two goals in a 'bounce game'. If 'bounce games' mean nothing, why do they play them? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-26 06:24:51
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Oct 26 2007, 04:01 AM) [snapback]349674[/snapback]
I dont think I was saying the lack of quality signings was part of the plan.

the plan was to consolidate our place in the 1st division

which we are doing...

some people are never happy.

I always believed Mr Rae planned to get us to the SPL- I could SWEAR he once said that.

I could also SWEAR that I have never heard him officialy announce a period of planned consolidation, though I'll happilly concede otherwise if you can provide the evidence.

So far as I have read it, this 'period of consolidation' was a term conjured up by a section of our less ambitious fans, who couldn't see that two or three wise signings could have had us upsides Hamilton right now.

Some people are never optimistic. sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-26 06:35:35
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Oct 25 2007, 04:00 PM) [snapback]349541[/snapback]
If we're playing greatly superior opposition, then we need to go more defensive, for example the games against France.
However, we should play attacking football when we can, as Scotland did against Ukraine.

Nothing rattles a 'superior' team more than the opposition scoring early-I've always believed in attacking football, and having 'cut my teeth' in the Hal Stewart' days, maybe I'm spoiled.

Take the forthcoming Hamilton match-if we go all out in attack and try to get to every ball first, I reckon we can pull it off. Let's face it, we could contain them brilliantly for 89 minutes, and then the inevitable slip would lose us all three points.

I can just hear it-'Their goalie never had a f*ckin' save in the entire game, and that bloody defence let us down again'!
mortonjag 2007-10-26 06:41:48
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 25 2007, 07:06 PM) [snapback]349604[/snapback]
Skidgeing.

Is that the same as 'plunking'?
mortonjag 2007-10-26 06:44:56
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 25 2007, 12:54 PM) [snapback]349473[/snapback]
Twas suggested that she supported the Scottish team because she was partial to a good sh4gging. Don't know if that's true or not but it's as good a reason as any....

Was that why she gave up on the English soccer squad?
mortonjag 2007-10-26 06:50:50 Salmond ditches election pledge on police
Alex Salmond has admitted his government will not fulfil its election promise to recruit 1000 extra police officers, prompting accusations that he had betrayed the people of Scotland.


Well, goodness gracious me! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-26 06:56:02 laugh.gif


I'm delighted to see the end of needless duplcation TBH. OK for P & B with its massive poster count, but superflous for us, and I bet it had auld Shoogly in a complete dwam each time he had his weekly 'keek'.
mortonjag 2007-10-26 06:58:16
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Oct 26 2007, 06:42 AM) [snapback]349685[/snapback]
it was called roots, kunta kinte and chicken george, set in the deep south of the states, you can get it as a box set and your right it wont ever be on tv again. far to contraversial for todays pc audience sad.gif

Indeed-just like the expression-'c*** a hoop'!
mortonjag 2007-10-26 07:06:14 When young Robinson's fit, will he have to fight for his place? Davie McGurn had a raw deal not only with him, but when Paul Mathers arrived.

I was willing to give the Rangers kid a chance at the start of the season, but I frankly believe David is much more solid-that's not saying Lee's bad, but he IS inexperienced in a very cynical division.

So here's the question. Will JM have full control of goalkeeper selection when Lee's fit again, or will it be a repeat of the Gowsa situation?
mortonjag 2007-10-26 07:10:18
QUOTE(port-ton @ Oct 26 2007, 06:59 AM) [snapback]349691[/snapback]
even on p&b though all the matchday threads are in with the rest in the 1st division forum and it works perfectly. there isnt enough going on in this site for there to be so many sub-forums.

but anyway this thread isnt about whats wrong with the matchday forum, theres another thread for that.

this is for saying our goodbyes to the most controversial thing on this site in about 6 months.

That's left me as confused as your signature!

Shouldn't the last bit read-'But only with religion do bad people claim to do good things'?
mortonjag 2007-10-26 07:26:24
QUOTE(port-ton @ Oct 26 2007, 07:21 AM) [snapback]349695[/snapback]
i wouldnt think so.

if you consider say, suicide bombers or whatever. a lot of the time these are just normal good people growing up then they are brainwashed into thinking that allah wants them to kill themselves and innocent people in the name of Islam.

then you get religious groups, who are against abortions. gay people etc. decent people but theyve been known to attack women going into abortion clinics or someone because they are gay.

even with rangers and celtic, some of their fans are brought up by either society or parents bringing religion into supporting their team and the hatred for each other that brings.

in my opinion religion is the cause of most of the worlds problems and not the savour of the world as most religions would have you believe.
why does every single thread you post in go off topic? laugh.gif

also mortonjag in confused by someones post rather than the other way around shocker tongue.gif

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Mortonjag has been behaving impeccably of late-hadn't you noticed?

Unfortunately the Monkey returned from his sabbatical last night, so it's back to 'business as usual'-oh and he entirely agrees that suicide bombers, and even OF supporters are just poor misguided souls.
mortonjag 2007-10-26 08:06:52
QUOTE(port-ton @ Oct 26 2007, 07:29 AM) [snapback]349698[/snapback]
i had actually.

at least in the summer when everyone hated you there was heated debates/arguments going on laugh.gif

now there isnt even a thread longer than 2 pages on the first page of threads.

The Monkey's working on it as I type! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-26 08:14:19 rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-26 08:44:57
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Oct 26 2007, 08:29 AM) [snapback]349715[/snapback]
I'm spoiled for choice really, so don't know what to put!

Sorry about that-I should have incuded an- 'other-please comment' option. Anyway I'm of the opinion that ye canny beat a nice pair of Bristols.
mortonjag 2007-10-26 09:52:39
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 26 2007, 09:11 AM) [snapback]349721[/snapback]
Get the facts right Earnie. There will be 1000 extra Police on the streets.

The unionists have interpreted the pledge as 1000 new recruits.

So at the end of the day, there will be 1000 extra Police on the streets from new recruits, redeployment and officers not retiring.

So that's 1000 more Police on the streets................a 1000 more than Labour managed incidently laugh.gif

I merely quoted from this morning's 'Herald'!

I will say, however, that ths is just one example of the outrageous claims made pre-election, coming under scrutiny in the 'cold light of day'.

All politicians are barefaced liars-it seems that Bawheid and his cronies have excelled in that department, if in little else.
mortonjag 2007-10-26 09:56:02
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 26 2007, 09:52 AM) [snapback]349729[/snapback]
Moreover, is the Guinean chap still on the agenda?

I know the rationale is "goalkeeping cover" but given that McInally's already mentioned money as a concern... surely if we just wanted a warm body on the bench we could get a guy in on loan or from a lower-league club?

So Shoogly IS skint? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-26 10:50:19
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 26 2007, 10:03 AM) [snapback]349732[/snapback]
I took it to mean that a pedigreed international such as the lad we're after rolleyes.gif would command a greater amount of money than your average punter from the Juniors.

Which makes the idea of "cover" all the stranger.

It could simply be a throwaway remark taken out of context, e.g. Jim meaning that we'll just need to sit down and talk about money, rather than the amount of it being a problem.

I don't think Shoogly's skint, but I'd be surprised if he splashed any cash right now on another goalie-we're doing OK, but SHOULD have been abe to get 'cover' for Robinson as soon as he was injured I.M.O. Simply nominating Deano-who's injured now, was stupidity.

I think the big question is about what happens during the transfer window. If we are indeed 'consolidating', a successful run-in from January would set us up nicely for a promotion thrust next year. It's become evident to those who could not previously see it, that promotion to Division 1 is NOT the quantum leap they predicted.
mortonjag 2007-10-26 10:54:38
QUOTE(port-ton @ Oct 26 2007, 10:48 AM) [snapback]349740[/snapback]
im not having a go at edinton. i think he made the right decision when he made a matchday forum. i would have done the same thing if i was him, because in theory a seperate forum for matchdays is an excellent idea.

he said at the time that we should embrace change and we'd get used to it, which im all for. change can be good and if he decided to change anything else over the coming months ill support it.

but everyone knows, including edinton that the matchday forum has not worked out as was hoped, there simply isnt enough going on in either matchday or general morton chatter to seperate both.

not one person on this site has a bad word to say about edinton, he's doing an excellent job so come down carefully or you may hurt yourself, i hear the moral high ground is dangerous this time of year.

Shall I start a new poll entited 'Edinton-man or Muppet'?

He IS a good chap, you know!
mortonjag 2007-10-26 11:21:56
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 26 2007, 11:04 AM) [snapback]349746[/snapback]
But he is not lying. The unionist Herald has spun it that way.

There will be 1000 extra Police on the streets. Does it really matter if they are new recruits or not ?
So what outrageous claims have the SNP no fullfiled, bearing in mind they have only been in office for 161 days ?

I can only comment by comparison with my own profession. 1000 extra doctors ANYWHERE in the NHS who are not new graduates equates to 1000 LESS doctors elsewhere in the same service industry.

This 'solution' was hardly what Bawheid led us to believe would happen, and there will be many similar-mark my words. Wee Surgeon will be getting her non-existent knickers in a massive twist when her ridiculous propositions for the NHS are exposed for what they were. I'll NEVER forget her promise- a service which MEETS DEMAND, without involving the private sector-FFS I've just put the old hernia out laughing at that one. Och well-nae bother-I'll have the op. done in a mere month or so!!!!!!!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-26 11:23:40
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Oct 26 2007, 11:15 AM) [snapback]349750[/snapback]
[attachment=3410:Alex_Salmond.jpg]
Thought you might like this piccy MJ biggrin.gif

I note the paper stuffed in pocket, and the vessel in hand.

Caption

'Fibbing is just my cup of tea!
mortonjag 2007-10-26 11:28:04
QUOTE(ianton @ Oct 26 2007, 11:13 AM) [snapback]349749[/snapback]
there are small goalkeepers that are really good.unfortunately Robinson isn't one of them.please be sensible and keep davie in goal.he should never have lost his place to that s***bag mathers. Davie McGurn IS OUR NO 1 KEEPER END OF.

Paul Mathers is a shagbag? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-26 12:22:42
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 26 2007, 11:33 AM) [snapback]349762[/snapback]
But you can't compare simple as that. The SNP Manifesto said 1000 extra Police officers on the street. That is what is being delivered. Sorry to dissapoint.

That is 1000 more than what the last administration delivered...fact.

On the Health Service, maybe if Gordon Brown was not squandering £25 Billion on Trident (amongst other things) , we could afford a better Health Service

Gordon Brown has little to do with the ill advised comments of a 'virgin' Heath
Minister!
mortonjag 2007-10-26 12:28:46
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 26 2007, 12:10 PM) [snapback]349780[/snapback]
I know this might give MortonJag a Subdural hematoma because it's not a negative story regarding the Health Service and the SNP.

Nicola Sturgeon has said "I am announcing today and confirming today that prescription charges will be abolished completely for all, and will be abolished within the lifetime of this parliament."

While I welcome the levelling of the playing field-prescription 'exemptions' have been a universally abused joke- the shortfall will have to be recouped elsewhere.

As another poster has indicated,'within the life of the Parliament' smacks strongy of 'Mibbes aye, and mibbes no'. This lot are proving to be rapid on the uptake when it comes to deviousness and double dealing! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-26 12:35:28
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 26 2007, 12:30 PM) [snapback]349800[/snapback]
He is spending Taxpayers money that could be diverted to the Health Service.

I mentioned Trident, I could go on about the waste of Taxpayers money on ID Cards, Iraq, Olympics.....

As YOU have demanded before my sweet CLAYMORE C*CK-answer my question wink.gif -Did Gordon Brown teach wee Nickerless how to lie unconvincingly?
mortonjag 2007-10-26 12:39:32
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 26 2007, 12:32 PM) [snapback]349803[/snapback]
Nonesnse ! You cannot make direct statements like that and go on and win another term in office.
Admit it Earnie, you unionists are struggling for excuses to keep the union.

The Unionists can struggle as much as they like-I despise all politics and politicians, the worst kind of which our newly elected brigade seem an excellent example.
mortonjag 2007-10-26 12:42:02
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Oct 26 2007, 11:52 AM) [snapback]349768[/snapback]
Nothing gets an "inferior" team more demoralised than the opposition scoring early. Heads go down and usually they get a right humping.

Correct-exactly the reason to 'hump' them first! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-26 12:47:22
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Oct 26 2007, 12:06 PM) [snapback]349778[/snapback]
Last time we played at Hamilton was at the height of the betting scandal and league collapse. You may might just remember we lost 6-1! Interesting comparison with the team that day with what we have now.

In goal was Coyle whom I always thought was too wee for a goallie - a good shot stopper but flapped at crosses and did not command his area well. McGurn is imho a better all round keeper - as good a shot stopper but better at crosses and communicating with his defenders. Verdict: improved

RB was Collins who was one of the best fullbacks we ever had. Unfortunately by the time of the Hamilton game he was getting over the hill and could be caught out by pacy opponents. Nowadays we have Shields whom I think is a good wee player - not as good as Collins in his prime but probably as good as the Collins that played in the Hamilton game. Verdict: about the same

CB Robbie Henderson - an honest big player but a bit lacking in skill. He was inclined to commit himself and get skinned but was decent in the air. I quite liked him and thought he might improve but he struggles to hold a place for Stenny so that shows what I know!! He is replaced by Harding who is an infuriating player. He can be brilliant at times and other times looks like he's never played the game before. If the good or even average Harding turns up he's miles better than Robbie so on that basis - Verdict: Improved

CB Greacen - one of only three survivors of that team and an improved player since then. Verdict: Slight improvement

LB Emilio Bottiglieri - a fullback who had decent on the ball skills and could put in a tackle but was very slow and had the turning circle of a supertanker. Left back is an issue for us but Davy McGregor might be the answer. Presently though McAnespie is playing there and he is both faster and more skillful than Bottiglieri although most of us would say he's better at left mid. I am not sure that defensively he's any better than Bottiglieri but his contribution overall means that the Verdict: Improved

RM Millar - another survivor but no longer guaranteed a start. His place is likely to be taken by Finlayson who is more of an out and out winger than Chris Millar. Both have their strengths - Finlayson is more likely to skin his man and get to the bye line whereas Millar is more likely to burst into the box (and score). Both can tackle and win ball but Finlayson is maybe a bit stronger in this aspect. So terms of overall change to the team - Verdict: about the same

CM: John Maisano - chain smoking midfield prima donna could be brilliant on his day and scored some cracking long range shots. He was however, lazy and slow and the probable ring leader of the dressing room discontent at the time. We now have Jim Mcallister playing where he did and he is just night and day different. He does'nt read the game as well as Maisano but in every other respect he is by far the superior player. Verdict: Improved

Holding Mid: Marco Maisano - honest hard working wee Aussie who was likeable but suffered from a severe lack of skill. Could put in a tackle but it did'nt matter because having won the ball he would immediately give it away again. Scott Mclaughlin fills that role now and is a far better player. Verdict: Improved

LM: Scott Bannerman - scored that famous goal that got us out of the third division but mostly a poor player with a bad attitude that was as likely as not to get him sent off. Has not cut it at any of his subsequent clubs. Nowadays we play Jamie Stevenson here although we all know his best position is is central midfield. He is a vastly more skillful player than Bannerman. Verdict: Much improved

Striker: Weatherson - at the time of the Hamilton game he was under much pressure from the betting scandal etc. and was playing poorly. Now he is being managed better in my opinion at least in the sense of getting his attitude right and it shows on the park where he has come back to decent form. Verdict: Same player but improved

Striker: Alex Williams was another of the dressing room bad boys and affected by the betting scandal. He was and is a decent striker on his game but he was'nt on it at that Hamilton game. Russell is a similar sort of player and it remains to be seen whether he will cut it long term - he's still got a bit to prove imho. Verdict: similar players

Bench then: Walker (not sure either Pee Wee or Jason) Uotinen Cannie Mcleod McGurn

Bench now: Templeman, Millar, Alex Walker, Gardyne or Graham, Keeper

Much stronger bench!

All in all, we're a far better team than we were then. Unfortunately, so are Hamilton!!

More of an 'out and out winger'-FFS man Kev's been working hard on his crosses, but that has to be one of the best jokes of the season! Truth is we don't have wingers-one of the persisting weaknesses in the squad.
mortonjag 2007-10-26 12:50:12
QUOTE(Capuan @ Oct 26 2007, 12:43 PM) [snapback]349815[/snapback]
I rekon Hamilton are due a bit of bad luck. So i'm gonna be optimistic here:

Hamilton 0 - 1 Morton

Russell

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mortonjag 2007-10-26 12:52:06
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 26 2007, 12:41 PM) [snapback]349811[/snapback]
Err...no.

Do Gordon Brown and Nicola even talk to each other ? huh.gif

Ah-you admit it-she is a self schooled liar!
mortonjag 2007-10-26 12:57:59
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 26 2007, 12:42 PM) [snapback]349814[/snapback]
I take it you are talking about Gordon laugh.gif
You are a unionist Earnie, don't try and jump a sinking ship laugh.gif

Not so-I was actuallya member of the S.N.P. at University, and voted for them in 1973 or 1974 when we WON the seat from Labour-damned if I can remember the guy's name, but he's now the president or something. I've rarely voted since-as I say, ideals give way to realism, and politics sucks.
mortonjag 2007-10-26 19:39:38
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Oct 26 2007, 02:58 PM) [snapback]349903[/snapback]
I am pretty sure I heard words to that affect - cant be arsed looking for quotes for you though.

Pretty sure I have heard/read from Rae/Jim words to the affect that we need to get "back where we belong" = ie: in the 1st division. We DO NOT belong in the SPL (not at the moment anyway).

I don't think anyone in their right mind would expect us to do back to back promotions with the current standard of team in the 1st division.

This debate was done to death before-I concede that comments such as those you mention were made AFTER a closed season which for many of us started with great expectations.

It's easy to mindlessly buy into negativity-tell me how it is that this so called 'consolidation' will make us any more effective, as and when we reach the SPL.

Douglas Rae will be 77 on his next birthday. He ALWAYS indicated that HE wanted to see us there, and he knows that with our proven potential, that's where the dosh is.

Something doesn't add up!
mortonjag 2007-10-26 19:47:10
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Oct 26 2007, 06:58 PM) [snapback]349974[/snapback]
Also credit where its due to our present manager. With the exceptions of Robbie Henderson and Bottiglieri who were released by Cowboy in his last summer with us, McInally

1) Got rid of most of the players who have left, including the trouble makers
2) Sorted out the dressing room including putting Peter back on track
3) Signed all of the replacement players

For those who thought we had a bad summer this year, at least we ended up with some decent players. All of Cowboy's last summer signings which included the likes of Diack and McLuskey are deservedly no longer with us.

He might have his other failings but I still say Jim McInally has an eye for a decent player.

Correction, that was Mortonjag-now if Mr McInally can get our best striker fit, he'll really be motoring!!! wink.gif

Spoonsy was, is, and may always be firing on three cylinders!
mortonjag 2007-10-26 19:55:30
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 26 2007, 07:46 PM) [snapback]349988[/snapback]
What's the problem?

Presumably that he can't read Polish.
mortonjag 2007-10-26 19:58:12
QUOTE(princessTON @ Oct 26 2007, 07:38 PM) [snapback]349985[/snapback]
It's the only way. rolleyes.gif

For me the nine most dangerous female words are:


I intend to do some shopping this coming Saturday.
mortonjag 2007-10-27 06:50:59
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Oct 26 2007, 07:06 PM) [snapback]349979[/snapback]
Maybe not but maybe also there are some measures which could be taken to make the site a little more comercial in terms of producing a little money for Edinton to cover running costs and his efforts.

If all the posters sponsor me I will write a love ode to Shoogly!
mortonjag 2007-10-27 06:54:17
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 27 2007, 12:06 AM) [snapback]350060[/snapback]
I wish we could put this to bed.

There was NO clause in Gowser's contract stipulating he must be played, he was debatably our best player and was in the team every week purely on merit and the fact he's a cracking player.

Even when he went through his dip in form he was still a far better option than Bobby Linn, or any other forward for that matter.

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mortonjag 2007-10-27 07:00:21
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Oct 27 2007, 03:24 AM) [snapback]350087[/snapback]
Not when you've been told by two entirely different sources he didn't impress.

I understand what you are saying-the boy had a crap game and still managed to score two goals-I wish our strikers would all knock in two every time they have a crap game! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-27 07:11:33
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 26 2007, 01:11 PM) [snapback]349839[/snapback]
I was like you, Ernie, involved in the early 70s but then drifted away from any active role. Just got back into the periphery a year or so back, but the change from stagnation under the LabLib lot and the much more dynamic approach now where the country is being galvanised is incredible. Best bit is watching Labour squirming on the sidelines, trying to be negative about eveything - along the lines of Morton winning 9-1 against Forfar and they say "that was a bad goal to concede".

The bottom line is that the people in charge now are simply far more intelligent that their predecessors. They may not manage to deliver 100% of what they said they would, but if that happens it's going to be because of the Westminster lot trying to cut their funding - which is OUR money, taken from us in taxes, top-sliced, and the reminder given back to us. The foot and mouth compensation is a prime example where they were going to pay compensation when they thought there was going to be an election, then mysteriously pulled the plug immediately the election was called off - now the compensation for Scottish farmers for a disaster (caused by a UK government lab in the S of England) is going to be paid for by us in Scotland alone, out of our current funds, while we as Scottish taxpayers are also going to be asked to contribute to compensation for English farmers through the UK treasury. And to cap it all, Labour MSPs all voted against the SNP proposal to provide the compensation at the same time as saying it was the Scottish Government's problem!

Labour = Crooks (or maybe they're just a incredibly dim)

I don't think that performing better than traditional labour government can be regarded as anything more than taking sweeties off a wean Alibi. Although I didn't vote, I was hoping for a brighter image from our new government. What's upsetting me is that they appear to have involved themselves in a great deal of greenhorn pre-election hype, and unfulfilled promises are rarely forgiven. I only feel qualified to comment specifically on the NHS, where Ms. Sturgeon plainly has a hell of a lot to learn.
Her latest joke is to increase legal protection for health workers-it sounds great, but like all legal processes is only effective retrospectively. Health workers are rarely at risk from sane, sober, and non 'jaked' punters. She should be addressing the root of the problem.
mortonjag 2007-10-27 07:22:28
QUOTE(princessTON @ Oct 26 2007, 08:04 PM) [snapback]349999[/snapback]
I am not daft. My dad is diabetic and my niece has asthma. rolleyes.gif

Don't let the Ardrossan Assassin upset you Princess. Street Walker has a valid point, and asthma is not the only anomaly. For years folks with hormonal disorders (just one example from many) have had no exemption from prescription charges for their essential life preserving treatment. Rasta Ton makes a valid point when he says he doesn't mind paying-I don't mind either for the odd item, but many have to pay a small fortune every year while others go Scot free. Sturgeon's idea is sound, but she WILL have to get the money elsewhere!
mortonjag 2007-10-27 07:24:53
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Oct 27 2007, 12:09 AM) [snapback]350061[/snapback]
Nah, by regular basis I meant a few games in a row rather than seeing him twice a season 6 months apart at Hibs.

Brian started a very promising career and after injury never really cut the mustard. He had one of the most 'sticky out' arses I've ever seen on a football pitch!
mortonjag 2007-10-27 07:28:38
QUOTE(princessTON @ Oct 26 2007, 08:02 PM) [snapback]349998[/snapback]
What about "were are my credit cards"?... Is she hitting the new Silverburn Shopping centre?

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Takes a woman to know a woman-SPOT ON-it's a mile and a half down the road-Next, M & S, Xara, etc., etc.,!!!

Anyway I've earmarked enough dosh for the Hamiton game. Who knows, she might have some new frilly knickers on when I return from our victory. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-27 07:32:09 I'm glad that Narky Arky was banned 'cos he's FAR too cheeky to me. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-27 07:41:20 I believe that if you are born and die between the months of and October and March, you have lost an hour of your life to this outrageous bureaucratic instrument--- an hour during which you might have made a momentous life prolonging decision. sad.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-27 11:17:04
QUOTE(StuMac @ Oct 27 2007, 09:29 AM) [snapback]350116[/snapback]
Can I through in an explanation in here.

He's not actually banned.
He's just not posted, maybe he is just saying he is banned.. But he isn't actually banned.

Has he taken 'industrial action'? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-27 11:19:04
QUOTE(lush @ Oct 27 2007, 09:27 AM) [snapback]350114[/snapback]
Tell her to wait a couple of weeks, only a third of the shops are open so far. wink.gif

I've TRIED!!!!!!!!!
mortonjag 2007-10-27 11:20:10
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Oct 27 2007, 09:39 AM) [snapback]350122[/snapback]
laugh.gif Just off junction 2 at the M77 mate. Next to Pollok. Mrs went yesterday and wasn't impressed.

Pollok's never been that impressive Weegie! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-27 11:23:05
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Oct 27 2007, 09:47 AM) [snapback]350125[/snapback]
Are you an expert on these subjects then MJ? unsure.gif rolleyes.gif

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I've always been interested in arses-Brian's was a sight to behold-one of the most comely behinds I ever had the pleasure to behold was on a rhinocerous called Randy.
mortonjag 2007-10-27 13:11:33
QUOTE(Edinton @ Oct 27 2007, 12:16 PM) [snapback]350166[/snapback]
Well never did I think I'd see the day where I received praise... And it was only one puppy. And it probably deserved it.

Anyhoo as I think I stated at the time it was something that was asked for by the forum members and all I asked (as mentioned above) was that people gave it a chance... They did and yeah, fair enough, I don't think it really worked, and when I get home tonight I'll remove it - as the majority have spoken!

With regards the effort and covering costs, so far it hasn't cost me anything in terms of money although if and when I purchase the license for the software then obviously I'll incur some costs. It's Tontastic that pays for the hosting and owns the domain name... So if we're talking about having polls, maybe I should start one to see if people would donate if the facility became available.........? rolleyes.gif

If we cuff Hamilton today, I shall gladly contribute 50p! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-27 13:13:51
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Oct 27 2007, 11:51 AM) [snapback]350158[/snapback]
laugh.gif Mind you, I suppose over the years there have been some monumental arses at Cappielow biggrin.gif

I will resist the temptation! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-27 13:18:49
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Oct 27 2007, 12:08 PM) [snapback]350165[/snapback]
laugh.gif Very droll. You taking a breast of things, or giving me the bums rush? wink.gif

Titter ye not Weegie-this was meant to be a serious assessment of which female attributes most turn on our respectable posters. I'm frankly disappointed by the poor turn out at the polling booths, but perhaps I HAVE misjudged them, and they are all turned on by pure personality.

Gentlemen to the end!! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-28 05:10:24 I've just read all the posts here. Apologies if it's been mentioned elsewhere, but did anyone note that he only played three or so minutes of added time. I could swear that a full three minutes were spent on this farce alone. Add to that substitutions by both sides, the physio/s on the pitch, time wasting by Accies, especially when lining up their wall for Spoonsy's free kick, and a pair of brain dead ball boys, and I estimate we should have had an extra seven or eight minutes.

Our 'resident' Ref TiD assures us that a decision can be changed so long as the game hasn't restarted. What I want to know is why it was a decision changed by a linesman (NOT THE REFEREE), after he was bullied by the Hamilton management and fans, which led to this farce.

After that, the 'man in charge' just wanted off the pitch, and blew for time as soon as he thought he could get off with it.

An official protest SHOULD be made. As others have indicated, even if the ball had gone in off Sanny's hand (and why lie to Alibi after it had all died down anyway) it doesn't matter. The linesman and Ref both initially gave the goal, changing their minds because outsiders forced them to. In my book that's serious professional misconduct,.

I used to think those poor whistlers were paid a pittance. I've asked more than once what they actually get for a match and nobody seems to know, but I understand last week's O.F. Ref got £550 plus expenses, so I'd be surprised if yesterday's budding Collina was on less than a couple of hundred quid for his few hours work.

The incompetent bottling c*nt should be forced to hand the lot over to charity.

C'mon Shoogly, don't let this rest, and for once I'll back you to the hilt.
mortonjag 2007-10-28 05:28:02 That was a real pleasure to watch after yesterday's disappointment-for me Sanny's goal against Killie wins it by a whisker-total composure-first touch with his right and buries it with the other foot.

Loved seeing the best of wee Gowsa again-when he turned up, he could be brilliant.
mortonjag 2007-10-28 05:31:40
QUOTE(ianton @ Oct 27 2007, 08:18 PM) [snapback]350395[/snapback]
he's s***e anyway.no great loss

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Would you like to expand?

CLOT! blink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-28 05:36:34
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 27 2007, 08:47 PM) [snapback]350402[/snapback]
Raemanov

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FFS, if he reads this you'll be putting ideas into his head. He'll probably get blonde streaks done, and turn up in star spangled Millions 'trackies', and a sun tan oot a bottle..
mortonjag 2007-10-28 05:37:07
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 27 2007, 08:59 PM) [snapback]350406[/snapback]
I'll do it. Can't be too difficult: stand watching the game with your arms folded and then after about an hour take Stevenson off.

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mortonjag 2007-10-28 05:42:32 JM's best performance in months-he is absolutely brilliant. I'm sure I'll watch that again and again, and AGAIN! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-28 06:10:40
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 27 2007, 06:29 PM) [snapback]350341[/snapback]
I phoned in to Jim Traynor about that incident and got put on air - quite disgraceful, and if a ref did that in a game involving the OF he would be crucified. Looked a good goal but that's not the point - IT WAS AWARDED. The officials gave the goal and then under pressure from Accies they changed the decision and awarded a free kick for something that they could not have seen themselves - if they had the goal wouldn't have been awarded in the first place.

I know we moan about bad refereeing, but this is different. This is not about a ref making a mistake, it's about a ref deducting a goal which we have already been awarded. Never seen that happen and I'm pretty sure the ref can't do that under the rules of the game.

I agree. The linesman definitely appeared to change his mind, having decided AT THE TIME OF THE INCIDENT that it was a good goal. The only thing that could have caused that was intervention by players and Hamilton officials. That is clearly ILLEGAL, and we SHOULD protest officially. As others have commented, if this had happened at an OF match it would have dragged on for months.

Refs often reverse their own decisions after consulting a linesman who had a better view-this was totally different, and the whistler MUST explain why he allowed his assistant to CHANGE HIS MIND almost a minute after the goal. Furthermore, if the goal WAS chalked off for deliberate handball, why was Sanny not booked?

Surely somebody must have video footage (even mobile 'phone footage) of the linesman's initial reaction, because it all hinges on that. Like some others, I always glance over towards the line before celebrating a goal,and he was definitely making his way back toward the centre line, flag down.

SHAMEFUL IN THE EXTREME.
mortonjag 2007-10-28 06:27:31
QUOTE(e_f @ Oct 28 2007, 02:59 AM) [snapback]350474[/snapback]
This sets a serious precedent for the game in general.

The rule saying the referee’s decision is final is no longer valid. Although the ref can change his mind if the linesmen advises him otherwise until the ball is back in play but we always hear people saying that there’s no point in arguing with officials once they’ve made their decision -
in this case the officials HAD made their decision then changed it following the Hamilton players approaching the linesman.
The authorities must take some action to resolve this otherwise it gives carte blanche to anyone who is not happy with a decision to badger the officials until he changes their mind to suit.

No doubt it will be ignored, though, and the only action will be to punish those who were sent off.

CORRECT, and by a slight stretch of the imagination, the official deliberately altered the result of the match for his own ends (to avoid further aggro and hassle from player/officials).

He is IMO guilty of serious professional misconduct. There's a big 'it' thing now about Refs coming clean after games, and admitting they are only human. If Thomson comes clean,we should get one point or a replay-and before you argue, WHY SHOULDN'T this game create a precedent?
mortonjag 2007-10-28 06:50:34 Halliwell to Linesman (whispers as all attention is elsewhere)-'I changed my mind about that coupon and went for a home win after all'.

Linesman-'FFS the Ref'll be raging-I'll get it sorted'.....Shouts 'CRAIG, did you no see ma flag up'?

Thomson-'What was the infringement'?

Linesman -with knowing wink-'Jeest chalk it aff-ah'll explain efter the gemme'.


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mortonjag 2007-10-28 07:17:17 I wish an official response to this question.

In yesterday's Hamilton v Greenock Morton match, a goal was awarded to the away side by the referee, Mr. Thomson. There is overwhelming evidence that the Standside linesman kept his flag down at the time , making his way towards the centre line.

After being approached by Hamilton players and officials, the referee consulted his assistant and the goal was chalked off.

Is it within the rules of the game that a linesman can alter his decision some 30 or 40 seconds after an incident, and only after harrassment by Club staff?







Edit.

I'd suggest as many of you as possible send similar questions. Just type 'sfa' into the browser bar, click on 'contact us', and then on 'referees', before posting your comment or question.
mortonjag 2007-10-28 07:26:33
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Oct 27 2007, 04:08 PM) [snapback]350282[/snapback]
I prefer it out in the open already lubed up

Why don't you join the Navy-you may rapidly rise to a Rear Admirable.
mortonjag 2007-10-28 07:31:13
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Oct 28 2007, 12:55 AM) [snapback]350468[/snapback]
Why have you quoted me talking about Michael Renwick then started talking about Brian Reid?

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I wasn't quoting anybody-but if great minds think alike-excellent.

I take it this Renwick guy had a 'sticky out arse' too! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-28 07:38:09
QUOTE(capitanus @ Oct 27 2007, 11:20 AM) [snapback]350167[/snapback]
I had a heated argument around six weeks ago with a few other board members, ever since then I have been locked out of this website.

I know that I have been a thorn in the side of several messageboard moderators over the past seven or eight years, and it is highly possible that I have had a run-in with one, a few or all of the current incumbents at some point and they’ve borne a grudge and I’ve since given them ample justification for my exclusion. Whatever it was, I have no complaints as I know I have been rude and unreasonable to many folk on this messageboard and its predecessors over the years, so it was probably well deserved.

This ban is a blessing in disguise as it will only stop me from getting involved in pointless arguments and being a sarcastic and obnoxious arsehole to many decent people who don’t deserve it.
Ex- ArklesTON

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Excellent, Narky, I see you now have the abiity to stop being an arsehole-well done


CAP IT ANUS
mortonjag 2007-10-28 08:11:45
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 27 2007, 08:57 PM) [snapback]350405[/snapback]
This is on the ICSTIS website (or rather its successor)

Current postal scam warnings: If you receive a copy of an email warning you about an alleged scam associated with the number 0906 661 1911, please do NOT forward it to others. This service was shut down by us in December 2005 and is no longer running. Please download this statement from PhonepayPlus for more information.

I rest my case.

Hmm-my partner is an exec in Scottish Power, and every member of staff got that warning on Friday! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-28 08:23:50
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 28 2007, 08:19 AM) [snapback]350501[/snapback]
Go to My Controls

On the left hand side under options click board settings.

From there you can change the time to GMT meaning that the board wont be an hour ahead anymore

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Ha-mine changes automatically-imagine that!
mortonjag 2007-10-28 16:37:10
QUOTE(GCM @ Oct 28 2007, 10:04 AM) [snapback]350515[/snapback]
Sorry, but this will not work. Where is this overwhelming evidence?
Your say-so and that of other Morton fans will carry no weight with the SFA.
In addition, it has already been made clear that the referee is perfectly free to change a decision as long as the game has not re-started.

It would be very interesting to hear what the referee has to say on the matter, but in my opinion the fault lies squarely with the young and inexperienced assistant, who failed to keep his flag in the air after spotting the handball. If he had done so, there would not have been the unfortunate scenes that followed and the red card and dismissal of Stuart Taylor, Jim McInally and Martin Clark. There must have been cause to disallow the goal, otherwise it would have been given.

I suspect that the assistant was acting more as a linesman and not as a genuine assistant and felt that he didn't want to overrule his senior colleague by disallowing the goal. From my viewpoint in the main stand, I didn't see him raise his flag at all and didn't see the handball. Mind you, I wasn't really looking in that direction, I was just cursing that Morton had got the goal that seemed to have been on the cards for the previous 10 minutes.

The Accies players clearly DID persuade him to speak to the referee, but if the boot had been on the other foot and Morton had been denied a precious win by foul means wouldn't you want them to complain too?

What do you mean by 'This will not work'? Of course it will work-I've merely asked for a response, and have already had feedback indicating that an answer will be provided.
mortonjag 2007-10-28 16:39:39
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Oct 28 2007, 11:14 AM) [snapback]350533[/snapback]
But have you forgotton that moronjag MUST be listened to, everyone MUST agree with him.
Maybe if he bombards the SFA with 12.500+ e-mails on the same subject over a 2 year period (like he's done with his posts on here) he might get a few people believing he's right. dry.gif
On the "goal", the ref made a decision, we might not like it but tough, there's f*** all we can do about it....End of !!

Listen,you drunken ex-pat fake Morton fan, I'm only echoing the words of Jim McInally, and trying to support my team. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-28 16:43:49
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Oct 28 2007, 11:18 AM) [snapback]350536[/snapback]
Get a grip moronfud, s*** happens!

'Get a grip' of what?

You young bucks are so f*cking full of yourselves until it comes to something serious like this. This was NOT an example of the 's*** that happenes' week in, week out-it was a strange and apparently inexplicable deviation from the norm, where a Linesman clearly reversed an initial decision after pressure from players and Club Officials. That lost us a vital point. I have asked the SFA for an explanation, and I'm told by a cheeky young brat to 'Get a grip'!!! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-28 16:47:13
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Oct 28 2007, 12:54 PM) [snapback]350556[/snapback]
That's amazing how you managed to intercept the Referee's report before it's even been posted.

What happened was the Monkey spying on him whilst he was writing it up tongue.gif

No Willow-he spotted them going into Wm Hill's after the game, and listened to them laughing and joking about how they'd stuffed the Bookie, and those Greenock c*nts-well that's what the Monkey said!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-28 16:59:09
QUOTE(se65an @ Oct 28 2007, 01:59 PM) [snapback]350571[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2007-10-28 17:04:55
QUOTE(gorkir @ Oct 28 2007, 09:29 AM) [snapback]350509[/snapback]
Unfortunately incidents like this happen from time to time
lets not forget the first league game of the season when Clyde equalised in the last few minutes and it was chalked off by the linesman after the referee had ran to the centre circle
in saying that the linesman in that game stood with his flag raised

it happens and we just have to get on with it

That's the crucial difference here-there's no point in a Ref having assistants if he ignores them, but accepting their first decision and allowing them to change their minds almost a minute later is BIZARRE.
mortonjag 2007-10-28 17:19:25
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 28 2007, 05:00 PM) [snapback]350627[/snapback]
Yawn.

Of course it was a controversial incident, but the correct decision was arrived at before play was restarted. The officials are well within their rights to do that, whether we like it ior not.

Another cheeky young brat steps into the firing line!

'YAWN' yourself-----yawn your way to bloody relegation if you're happy to see our team cheated by an incompetent fresh faced kid with a big flag and small bottle. What do you mean by 'The correct decision was reached'-FFS I read the Sunday papers too, but in this instance I'd rather accept the word of Sanny and Jim McInally.

Anyhow, even IF Temps had flicked the ball on to his left pinkie with his tadger before birling it round six times and then farting it through Haliwell's legs, a GOAL WAS GIVEN BY THE REF AND LINESMAN, and that should have been the end of matters. In this case, it seemed that Hamilton FC had the final say.
mortonjag 2007-10-28 17:20:58
QUOTE(Marc @ Oct 28 2007, 05:13 PM) [snapback]350632[/snapback]
Give MJ a break, he's only looking for answers as to why the outcome resulted in how it did. Doing what he thinks is the correct thing to do. I certainly want answers. MJ let me know how u get on please. B-)

I've had an automated response saying that I'll receive a reply, and will keep you all posted.
mortonjag 2007-10-28 17:44:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 28 2007, 10:22 AM) [snapback]350518[/snapback]
Bookies have now slashed the odds of Scotland becoming an independent nation in 10 years to 12/1.

There have been many polls on the forum over the years about independence and we can say the forum members are in broadly favour of independence.

So when do you realistically believe this will be achieved ?

Leave Party politics out of it, and don't let your heart rule your head.

Thanks CLAYMORE C*CK for the benefit of your red hot tip!

Just off to put my life savings on Bawheid's merry band of liars, and if I'm still around in 2117, I'll treat you to a Haggis supper and a pint of 'Tartan', oot the winnngs.
mortonjag 2007-10-28 17:56:50
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Oct 28 2007, 05:31 PM) [snapback]350638[/snapback]
See post #15.

I can't find anything in your Blog about 'sticky out arses'! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-28 17:59:15
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 28 2007, 05:56 PM) [snapback]350643[/snapback]
Thanks for that Earnie, I'll haud ye tae it tongue.gif

The bet's off I'm afraid-f*ckin' bookie won't accept pre-decimal coinage-AND I cleaned every one with bloody brillo pads first. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-28 18:01:24
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Oct 28 2007, 05:56 PM) [snapback]350645[/snapback]
Woke at 7.30 this morning and couldn't believe how light it was compared to the same time yesterday morning and thought it was still during the night sad.gif

My Monkey had been so upset this afternoon-keeps complaining it's 'Awful dark'.
mortonjag 2007-10-28 18:07:10
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 28 2007, 06:01 PM) [snapback]350656[/snapback]
Nice to see you playing the melodramatic card. Yesterday's result has f'ck all to do with how we'll finish at the end of the season, however controversial that loss was. I'll be a touch more irked if we don't take points off the teams around us e.g. Thistle, Clyde, Livi and Stirling.

Nice to see me taking stick for trying to give my Club justified support. All last season I complained about our dull displays, and was constantly reminded that it was the points which mattered (FFS we're top of the league-- ad nauseam), and now when I bemoan the loss of a valuable point I'm accused of melodrama.

If you don't like my OPINIONS-fine.

Yesterday a goal was given, then apparently chalked off on the say so of Hamilton FC-FACT. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-28 18:09:24
QUOTE(div @ Oct 28 2007, 05:56 PM) [snapback]350644[/snapback]
Was it a handball or was it not ?

Was a goal which won a cup ten years ago handball or not? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-28 18:18:31
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Oct 28 2007, 05:58 PM) [snapback]350650[/snapback]
And a top notch businessman who knows how to delegate and when to step in. So why don't you want him to invest in Morton? Serious question.

You don't tend to see Gordon Ramsay's Luxury Chocolates on the same shelf as the Fudgy Wudgys!
mortonjag 2007-10-28 18:23:58
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Oct 28 2007, 06:16 PM) [snapback]350662[/snapback]
OOOHHHH hark at her !! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

You pathetic old fool it's just another attempt at attention seeking on this board from yourself, and it's working of course.

Goal wasn't given, get over it, it happens every week to some team somewhere.

According to several Scottish newspapers, the goal WAS given-and by Ref AND Linesman at that.

You're skating on thin ice here-why don't you pack your bags and come up and watch a game-even you could perhaps get quite passionate about the team you CLAIM to support.
mortonjag 2007-10-28 18:30:13
QUOTE(briggsTON @ Oct 28 2007, 06:24 PM) [snapback]350665[/snapback]
Well done Mortonjag

Thaks BT-I can't believe how some of our posters are quite willing to be 'mugged'. Of course there's no chance of having the decision reversed, but at least the SFA are likely to do something behind the scenes if enough of a fuss is made about the fiasco.
mortonjag 2007-10-29 05:15:40
QUOTE(para @ Oct 28 2007, 10:40 PM) [snapback]350738[/snapback]
dougie and son

Can't help thinking of Steptoe and Son when I see it written that way-there may even be cetain similarities.
mortonjag 2007-10-29 05:25:14
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Oct 28 2007, 11:24 PM) [snapback]350744[/snapback]
I'm no fan of Mortonjag and his attention seeking games he plays on here but I’m astonished that so many of you want to have a go at him on this occasion.

I think if anyone else had started this thread there would be 100% backing.

Where have you been hiding?

Welcome back! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-29 05:39:36
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 28 2007, 11:54 PM) [snapback]350746[/snapback]
If Templeman did knock it in with his hand then reluctantly the correct decision was given , eventually .
I do hope we get an explaination of what happened and any other major incidents in any game .
It is pretty obvious no matter what went on neither referee or assistant will admit to being swayed by crowding players .
However can Jim McInally point an accusing finger at the Hamilton players when his over aggressive manner saw him and Martin Clark red carded ?

Chris, I think you must take everything in context. For months many of us have been slagging off JM for being far too laid back.

On Saturday, as at Cappielow Billy Reid's bully boys caused us no end of troube. They could have been four or five up in the first half because we couldn't handle the pressure. Full credit to everybody involved, we got it sorted in the second period, and in the last 15 minutes passions were running high as it finally looked like we could sneak an undeserved draw. When Sanny connected and the ball hit the net, the Ton fans went ballistic with joy. Somebody behind me dropped a mobile which broke open, and after picking up all the pieces, handing them back, and having a wee joke about it, we all STILL believed we'd scored. The Ref had signalled to the centre circle, and I'd briefly glanced across to see if a flag was up-NOPE-the baby faced assistant was also heading back towards the centre line. Then I saw Halliwell and another Hamilton payer in animated discussion with the linesman, as the Ton players stood about looking confused. I guess by that time a full minute may have elapsed, before it was 'Sorry folks-on the advice of the Hamilton players, the decision has been changed'. Furthermore Thomson played three extra minutes when eight or nine were DEFINITEY due-he just desperately wanted off that pitch.

I have great admiration for what's been achieved at Hamiton, but on Saturday a pathetically weak kid of a linesman was BULLIED into cheating us. As I said elsewhere IT DOES NOT MATTER IF SANNY HANDLED-THE GOAL HAD BEEN AWARDED.

For a normally mild mannered man like JM to 'lose it' as he did, something damned unusual must have happened, and for once I'm right behind Jim.
mortonjag 2007-10-29 05:52:25
QUOTE(div @ Oct 28 2007, 06:37 PM) [snapback]350673[/snapback]
Don't know which cup you are referring to, but the point I am making is are you sure the referee and/or his assistant actually made a mistake ?

If you are 100% sure there was no handball then of course you are right to at least issue an email in protest just to register your displeasure.

If however you actually think the decision itself may have been correct then is it not the case that the referee was absolutely correct to check with his assistant to make absolutely sure the goal was valid in light of the Hamilton players all protesting about it ?

FFS Div-of course they made a bloody mistake. Awarding a goal, then disallowing it because of external pressure is serious professional misconduct.

Since when were Refs and Assistants supposed to refer to the players and crowd before their decisions were ratified. Even if Sanny handled, the goal was still OFFICIALLY given, and that's where the matter should have ended.
mortonjag 2007-10-29 05:58:00
QUOTE(tontastic @ Oct 29 2007, 12:48 AM) [snapback]350753[/snapback]
Some more pictures from Hamilton have been added at http://www.tontastic.com/index.cgi?dir=200...A-Hamilton-JMCF. The pictures aren't in order, but it doesn't take too much imagination to sort out.

If you take a look you should be able to see a nice picture of the linesman running up the wing a split second after chris had picked himself off the ground after "scoring". He is not standing with his flag aloft. Ho hum.

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDTHE GOAL HAD BEEN AWARDED.
mortonjag 2007-10-29 06:18:15
QUOTE(cappielow-doc @ Oct 29 2007, 01:26 AM) [snapback]350758[/snapback]
Surely after a massive decision the ref/linesman should explain why he came to the decision he did,and if it was indeed handball T ems should have been booked

FOUL...Temps booked
NO FOUL ....goal stands

The whole thng was a farce -the Linesman 'bottled it', and Thomson was left to make a decision on the 'NEW' evidence provided by Hamilton. As you correctly state, if the 'free' was awarded for 'handball' why was Sanny not booked?

That Ref is supposed to be of European Cup standard-he should have told the wee flag waver to stick it up his arse for changing his mind, but he didn't. I really hope the Ton make an official protest.
mortonjag 2007-10-29 06:25:00
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Oct 29 2007, 03:23 AM) [snapback]350763[/snapback]
Carrigan couldn't hack it, nothing to do with ability, he just couldn't handle the pressure. The guy was on the road to ruin if he stayed pro, he got out in time before he became a waster like Andy McLaren.



I believe McLaren suffers from Alcoholism and drug addiction, but is still self sufficient and awaits royalties from his latest book.

Correct me if I am wrong young Sir, but haven't you told us you are in receipt of state support for your disability?

Will you ever learn to refrain from typecasting people?
mortonjag 2007-10-29 06:28:33
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Oct 28 2007, 06:01 PM) [snapback]350655[/snapback]
Sounds like you made a right 'thrupenny bit' of yourself there.

Thought I'd brass it but nae luck!
mortonjag 2007-10-29 07:36:16
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Oct 27 2007, 10:34 PM) [snapback]350423[/snapback]
Tried to nick all the new wood from my back garden which i have for a new front fence being built, they ended up stealing a motorbike tarpollen and a Calor gas cannister from a neighbour which i managed to recover. Absolutely pissing it down at the time. Due to getting older i am not as fit as i used to be but managed to identify 3 of them. Spoke to another close neighbour coming in from work to let them know what was going on and turns out she is a Police Constable who was actually oin a control room when my call went in.

Do we deal with these wee pricks or leave it to the Police.

Wee Besterds

You have no sympathy with today's youth Sir-don't you realise they are poor deprived souls with learning difficulties, who may well have been multiply sexually abused by an uncle, the Priest, and a Dachshund.

Understanding and love are the keywords. The Monkey and I have devised a new form of therapy, and if you'd care to refer them, we can make them understand. You'll just love the video of the Monkey pouring nitric acid over their baws to the tune of 'Who's sorry now'. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-29 09:27:32 The press seem agreed that a goal had definitely been awarded, and in today's Sun, Paul Hughes comments that the Accies players have admitted they 'persuaded' the assistant to change his decision.

The Club should definitely appeal and claim a replay or share of the points IMO.

This never really had anything to do with HOW the ball was steered into goal-Refs call it as they see it-Thomson gave it, and his assistant signalled all was 'kocher', so it WAS a goal.

I know I'm ranting on about this, but it was entirely different from the controversial stuff which occurs in every football match every week.

Haliwell and his cronies might just as well have said '£500 if you chalk it off'- it's as simple as that-Refs and Linesmen DON'T change decisions on the orders or persuasion of players. That Linesman is guilty of Serious Professional Misconduct, and the Ref of gross incompetence.

In the 'Herald', Ryan Taylor comments-

'Mr Haswell, whose backbone suggests he wouldn't say 'boo' to a goose, caved in under naughty words and some finger waving'.

So there we have it from an independent viewer-we were cheated because a fresh faced kiddie running the line was bullied, while his experienced mentor had an aberration of judgement in entertaining his change of heart.
mortonjag 2007-10-29 09:46:22
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 29 2007, 09:36 AM) [snapback]350807[/snapback]
MJ until the ball's back in play it's not official.

The point is that the referee and linesmen changed their minds due to what is, in essence, bullying.

That's a very, very dangerous road for the SFA to go down.

As I said, I think most managers will have taken note of that and will have instructed their players to act accordingly.

Fair enough, though had the game been abandoned for some freak reason before that 'kick off', I assume it would still have been a goal or otherwise, in the Ref's wee notebook.

Anyway, you are spot on about this precedent, and I hope the Club take it as far as possible with the SFA. I've e-mailed them this morning to that effect.
mortonjag 2007-10-29 09:57:30
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Oct 29 2007, 08:20 AM) [snapback]350793[/snapback]
Now that is cruel. The young neds of today are very fashion conscious if nothing else. The least you can do to demonstrate you are not a complete heartless bassa would be to use Hydrogen Peroxide, which would give their bawhair that trendy bleached look they so covet.

You're a hard man MJ. Look to your heart and ditch the Nitric.

TonInDublin

Hard man-no way. We rejected sulphuric acid because the fumes would make the wee souls cough and splutter, (what with smoke never having seen the insides of their lungs), as we wanted them to be able to express their thoughts and feelings freely during therapy..

How many concessions are we expected to make?
mortonjag 2007-10-29 10:12:54
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Oct 29 2007, 10:02 AM) [snapback]350811[/snapback]
Clearly a well thought through strategy. I retract my demands.

TonInDublin

...and we can safely assume that those young gentlemen will not be Sumo wrestlers!
mortonjag 2007-10-29 12:36:03
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Oct 29 2007, 11:26 AM) [snapback]350862[/snapback]
Much in the same way you don't see Golden Casket's luxury range on the same shelf as the fudgy wudgys - what's your point?

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And that comprises of---???
mortonjag 2007-10-29 15:51:36 I sent this message to GMFC this morning-perhaps our posters will have slightly more baws now that the Evening Times has published this!

I feel very strongly that the Club should not only appeal the treatment of Jim McInally and Martin Clark, but should demand a replay or share of the points. While I accept that we are unlikely to achieve much, to do nothing is to condone the actions of the Referee, and in particular his assistant. The press are agreed that the goal was awarded, and we have photographic evidence from James McFadden of the assistant running back towards the halfway line after the goal-indeed, the Hamilton players have even admitted that they ‘persuaded’ the linesman to change his decision.



Please, all of you, get right behind the Club, Management, and players on this one. I've already exhorted you to contact the SFA. E-mail the Club with your support too.

Mortonjag's the most negative poster on the board, so just imagine what can be achieved if we all pull together on this!
mortonjag 2007-10-29 15:59:46
QUOTE(TonToWin @ Oct 29 2007, 03:45 PM) [snapback]350973[/snapback]


What a farce! When a Ref considers a player to have used handball he immediately disallows the goal and books the offender.



THOMSON HAS LOST ALL CREDIBILITY-HE IS A LIAR -THIS WILL NOT STOP HERE!
mortonjag 2007-10-29 16:05:02
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Oct 29 2007, 03:49 PM) [snapback]350975[/snapback]
All those who have raised their views, and anyone else for that matter, may want to phone The Real Radio phone in tonight regards the farce at Hamilton on Saturday.

The S.F.A. might want to sweep it under the carpet, but this is a very serious matter which must be addressed.

PHONE: 0845 100 2 101

What time is the 'phone in'?
mortonjag 2007-10-29 16:24:19 All credibility has gone for this so called top grade referee. Does he actually BELIEVE his story of events will wash with the public?

In trying to cover his arse, and protect his ambitions for more European glory, this man, whom we are supposed to entrust with the fair handling of our contests has blatantly lied. If he'd tried the same version of 'Hans Christian Andersen' after a televised Old Firm match, he'd now be the laughing stock of Scottish football-that's if he'd ever got out of the stadium.

He clearly thinks he's above reproach, and the most ridiculous aspect of the whole charade is that he cannot now go back on his statement.

I'm thoroughly disgusted-who the f*ck does he think he's fooling? He admits that the Stand side linesman 'didn't know', claims the other linesman 'did know' but kept quiet, and worst of all, wants us to believe that HE KNEW ALL ALONG.


That's right Craig-that's why a grade one whistler with Champions League experience took almost two minutes to change his original decision.

You are a liar, and you have compounded your lies by treating Greenock Morton Football Club and its fans like morons who will now go away and let the matter rest because you've published your fibs

We all make mistakes-men have the courage to admit them, but you clearly do not come into that category. With such palpable lack of integrity,

HOW CAN YOU EVER BE TRUSTED TO REFEREE ANOTHER MATCH?
mortonjag 2007-10-29 17:37:36
QUOTE(div @ Oct 29 2007, 05:35 PM) [snapback]351027[/snapback]
I don't think Craig is a frequent visitor to the site, so whilst the above rant is highly amusing it is completely pointless, a bit like Morton were on Saturday laugh.gif

Very poor taste Div, and it is not a 'rant'-it is a statement of fact.
mortonjag 2007-10-29 17:47:30
QUOTE(div @ Oct 29 2007, 05:41 PM) [snapback]351031[/snapback]
It is a rant, read it again and you'll see that it changes from an opinion to being a rant as though Craig is standing in front of you laugh.gif

Sounds like he made a bit of a f*** up right enough on Saturday, but what do you expect from the SFA ?

It is a statement of fact. It is stated emotively. Call that a 'rant' if you wish. Your Paisley buddy 'f*cked up' well and truly on Saturday-fair dos, but to compound his c*ck up with an attempted whitewash which wouldn't do credit to a 16 year old apprentice painter makes the whole situation farcical.

Anyway, why are you putting your tuppenceworth in here-do you support us in this, or are you just being a total dick?
mortonjag 2007-10-29 17:56:20
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 29 2007, 05:47 PM) [snapback]351034[/snapback]
So... Thomson's original interpretation of the incident was that a major infringement had taken place, yet he chose not to blow the whistle?

Very interesting.

Exactly-what's he's actually claimed is-'I thought the Morton player handled the ball, but initially I still gave the goal'.

That is where it should all start and stop when his supervisors look at this. In making his statement, Mr Thomson has in fact CONFIRMED that what really happened was that he was bullied into disallowing a perfectly good goal, and even then, he did not book the scorer for his 'infringement'.
mortonjag 2007-10-29 18:07:10
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Oct 29 2007, 06:06 PM) [snapback]351045[/snapback]
On Radio Clyde now, said Chris Templeman did handle the ball.

REALLY!



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mortonjag 2007-10-29 18:14:35 Incidentally, if I don't receive a timeous and satisfactory response, I'll be writing directly to the Chief Executive. Those guys are there to promote fair play and maintain a decent standard of refereeing. Thomson's performance on Saturday was regrettable. His subsequent lies are unforgiveable.
mortonjag 2007-10-30 04:33:42
QUOTE(div @ Oct 30 2007, 12:22 AM) [snapback]351213[/snapback]
It's topical and I am interested in Scottish football. Is that ok with you ?

I'm not sure why you resort to abuse, I have already said that it sounds as though the referee f***ed up but even then I still find your little tantrum very enjoyable. Did you have a wee greet as you typed it laugh.gif ?

I'll pass on my regards to Craig when I next see him tongue.gif

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Abuse! I merely asked you a question, which you have still failed to answer.

Do you support us in this, or do you prefer to believe the fabrications of your erstwhile respected referee Buddy?
mortonjag 2007-10-30 04:53:17
QUOTE(axeman @ Oct 29 2007, 06:50 PM) [snapback]351070[/snapback]
I sent this to them yesterday.

Dear Sirs,

I would like to make an inquiry regarding the decision made by the match officials in the above mentioned game. As you are probably aware, with the score at 1-0 to Hamilton, Morton scored an equaliser through Chris Templeman. The officials awarded the goal and returned to their normal set places for the restart. At this point they were surrounded by some of the Hamilton players who disagreed with the decision. The officials then consulted and decided to disallow the "goal".

My questions thus follow.

1. If neither official has seen any infringement how can they then disallow a goal ? (after all there is the possibility that Hamilton were just chancing their luck trying to get the goal overturned.)

2. Does this now set a precedent that if you harass the officials, you may get decisions overturned ? (I could see the problems this would incur in an Old Firm match for example)

3. Is harassing the officials not an offence under the current rules of the game ? (I point out the example of the Manchester United-Chelsea league game from earlier this season when Chelsea players disputed the sending off of Mikel, surrounded the referee and the club were subsequently charged and fined by the English F.A.)

4. If the officials are in the wrong during this game what are the consequences ? Will they be removed from the list of officials ? Will the referee Mr Craig Thomson be removed from the UEFA list ? Will he referee another game involving either side ? Will the red cards issued to the Greenock Morton management team be rescinded ?

5. Finally, what recompense will Greenock Morton receive for such an obvious miscarriage of justice ? A point or a replay ?

There are many things for you to chew over and I thank you for taking the time to read my correspondence. If you could reply I would be much obliged.

No reply as yet surprise, surprise. dry.gif

I'm sure we'll get replies in due course. As I've said, if they are simply along the lines of 'The Ref's decision is final' I'll be approaching Gordon Smith directly, and writing to the National Press.

This is no longer about Greenock Morton, or Hamilton Athletic-it's about officials deliberately lying to cover their arses. I listened to Jim McInally last night on Real Radio, and couldn't help a wee smile when he talked about the Ref and his assistants 'having to get together to sort out their story', and that's exactly what appears to have happened.

Well it won't wash. Power must always come with responsibility and accountability. Thomson's latest version of events is utterly ridiculous.

Incidentally, in all the kerfuffle, nothing's been made of the fact that he also bottled out of playing a full ninety minutes-so desperate was he to get off that plastic pitch. JM reckoned it took six minutes between the goal and eventual restart. In addition we had three or four substitutions, at least one stop for the Hamilton physio, blatant time wasting particularly at Spoonsy's free kick, and two complete jokes of ballboys who farted about all afternoon. An additional ten minutes would have been reasonable-maybe even more, at a time when we could have still got an equaiser. Thomson gave us exactly three!
mortonjag 2007-10-30 05:09:07 Douglas Rae has got this spot on. In requesting an enquiry he has put the ball fairly and squarely in their court. If they knock back the request Gordon Smith might as well pack his bags and accept he can't move the SFA out of the Dark Ages.

I strongly suspect that Mr Thomson's not going to come out of this smelling of roses.
mortonjag 2007-10-30 05:14:33 I've never doubted Jim's sincerity, and last night he came over as honest, realistic, and not lacking in humour. He was so droll as he described how the ref and his assistants would probably have 'had to get together to sort out their story'!
mortonjag 2007-10-30 05:21:09 So Davie McGurn's this weeks fall guy! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


FFS we got a bloody draw against the league leaders and some folk are still getting into our players!

Incidentally Kieran McAnespie was the 'Herald's MOTM, which did slightly puzzle me, as it was pretty obvious Kieran himself felt he wasn't getting a chance to play at his best.
mortonjag 2007-10-30 05:39:53
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Oct 29 2007, 07:16 PM) [snapback]351097[/snapback]
But that's not what 'happened'.

According to the statement, the ref considered that the ball had come off Temps' arm (i.e. still an infringement but not deliberate handball, so no yellow card). However, the assistant ref, in an apparently better position, didn't flag, so the ref gave the goal. But he then learned that, rather than having seen a good goal, the assistant ref hadn't seen anything...

Although it is odd that the statement suggests that the other assistant ref had a clear view (from miles away) and would have flagged, yet presumably didn't.

I know it's one of your favourite words, but what exactly is the 'lie'?





Here's what happened Trumpet.


Sanny knocked the ball in and the Ref, having looked over to his Standside linesman GAVE a goal. The other linesman was totally uninvolved at that crucial point.


WHY?


That's where the matter should have ended as far as I (and hopefully the SFA) are concerned.


You may believe the subsequent story if you wish-most appear to think Mr Thomson has been fibbing in an attempt to cover his own arse.
mortonjag 2007-10-30 05:44:01
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Oct 29 2007, 10:50 PM) [snapback]351194[/snapback]
I don't agree with that. I thought we were really poor. Only Chris Millar tried to take the game to Hamilton.

I'm afraid I have to agree-Hamilton could have been five up at half time, and I couldn't understand why they seemed to step off the gas in the second half. Having said that, we did try to take the game to them after Midge came on-Spoonsy was unlucky with his 'free' and there was THAT goal.
mortonjag 2007-10-30 05:54:27
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Oct 29 2007, 02:16 PM) [snapback]350935[/snapback]
The best acid for the job is HF.

In my ignorance I can only assume that is hydrofluoric acid HT-how many of the Ned breed have you treated-I've not seen any clinical reports in the journals yet!
mortonjag 2007-10-30 05:55:52
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 29 2007, 04:47 PM) [snapback]351003[/snapback]
Don't worry, if she continues in the way she has been since taking the poisioned chalice, she won't be around to fight the next election.

She will also be menopausal by then!
mortonjag 2007-10-30 06:33:23
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Oct 29 2007, 08:38 PM) [snapback]351159[/snapback]
Mighty Morton robbed
Of a Goal and point on Saturday
Really goes to show that
Thompson can't referee for toffee and is
Officially a grade 1
Numpty!

At least I think that acrostic!




Trouble on Saturday
Hamilton cheated
Over a goal
Made by Michael Gardyne
Sanny had netted it
Oh-the great joy
None of the Ton fans
Saw anything wrong
After some minutes of
Chatting and sparring
Utter dismay as
No goal was allowed
TRAVESTY.
mortonjag 2007-10-30 06:35:21
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Oct 29 2007, 09:02 PM) [snapback]351170[/snapback]
nothing new there regarding "hash" not being a drug...

all you have to do is look at the ingredients of what most people consider hash.... the evil soapbar.

and wonder why they get a bargain at 50 quid or less for an ounce. theres only one winner and not the smoker or their health. the government sits back and lets it happen.....

dont get me started on hash and its effects in this country smile.gif

The most common cause of non genetic psychotic illness in this country.
mortonjag 2007-10-30 06:39:45
QUOTE(Rossco @ Oct 29 2007, 09:40 PM) [snapback]351183[/snapback]
Right Penishead since you never answered my question on the other thread answer it now.

Why do you bring the Monarchy into your pride of britain ok you want to keep union thats fair enough but why bring the monarchy into it not every unionist supports the monarchy can you not support union without the Queen?

Its also laughable how you use Margaret Thatcher & beacon of democracy in the same post.

Also if Scotland became independant how would the rest of Britain support the Royal Family?

The Empire of Britain is long gone & the break up of the united kingdom is the overdue final break up of a once great empire.

Stop giving Hee Haw compliments.
mortonjag 2007-10-30 06:54:03 I guess many of you were listening to last night's Real Radio footie programme. I was pretty astonished to find that almost everybody accepted Craig Thomson had made a complete arse of himself in the Hamilton game.

Step up superarse Alan Rough-all that mattered he claimed, was that Sanny had cheated-and he claimed it about half a dozen times too with no proof whatsoever-which brings me to the point of my post.

Even if Sanny had produced a snooker cue from his pocket and chalked it before netting, a Ref, having checked with his assistant had awarded the goal.

The Hamilton players refused to accept that decision, but isn't the Ref's decision final?

In my book, that makes Hamilton the cheats.
mortonjag 2007-10-30 08:06:18
QUOTE(simplyton @ Oct 30 2007, 07:36 AM) [snapback]351235[/snapback]
Have to disagree to some extent MJ

If you thought that by questioning the referee's decision you could change his mind - would you not try it?

Also it appears the Hamilton players believe Temps did handle the ball therefore they are merely arguing their point of view

For me its the spineless officials who are 100% at fault

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You definitely have a point, but where does reasonable protest turn into aggressive insistence. As JM said last night, only two or three Hamilton players initially got involved-particularly the goalkeeper. I agree about the incompetence-Thomson HAD awarded the goal, and 'gave in', but it just seems a feature of Hamilton's success this season that they have a bully boy mentality!

Not that I wouldn't mind a wee bit of it at Cappielow!
mortonjag 2007-10-30 08:12:31
QUOTE(simplyton @ Oct 30 2007, 07:42 AM) [snapback]351236[/snapback]
Why when according the Referee the farside linesman (linesman nearest us) was able to confirm it was a handball or is the refereee telling porkies? smile.gif

Im guessing most ton fans like me were around 140 yards away with an elevated view and I would conceeded I couldn't tell what Temps put the ball in with.
The linesman has to be somewhere around 60yards away low angle and through bodies was able to pick out the handball hmmmmmmm...

That linesman was not actively involved (or involving himself) when the goal was scored. Young Haswell (I believe that is the other one) at least admitted he did not have an uninterrupted view (Ref jargon for hadn't a clue), but suddenly the other one pops up with his laser vision memory of something he wasn't specifically looking at.

FARCE.
mortonjag 2007-10-30 08:49:51
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Oct 30 2007, 08:15 AM) [snapback]351243[/snapback]
are you saying that a ref can't / shouldn't consult a linesman? (remember 1966)

are you saying a ref can't revoke a decision?

you might not like the final outcome, but that's beside the point. according to the sfa authorised version, the ref learned that the linesman was unable to confirm that the goal had been scored legally, so reverted to his original interpretation and changed the decision.

what's interesting here is that this explanation turns on its head what many folk assumed, i.e. that the linesman had buckled under pressure. instead, the linesman appears to have held his ground.

if there's a niggle, it's that the ref's suspicions were effectively confirmed by the hamilton players and not by the officials, so it could be suggested that the ref acted under pressure

You're simply theorising in an attempt to prove your point-fair enough.

Now let's look at some FACT.

Thomson (an experienced and now Champions League ref) unhesitatingly signalled a goal, as his linesmen both stayed uninvolved-young Haswell running back towards the centre line-flag down.

Of course Refs are entitled to do all of the things you mention,WHEN THERE IS DOUBT. They are also EXPECTED to take prompt and decisive action, based on how they see it, and that happens hundreds of times in every match. As far as I'm concerned NOTHING ELSE MATTERS except that Thomson, whose assistants were not proffering any contradiction, signalled the goal.

The rest, for me, is a total fabrication.
mortonjag 2007-10-30 08:53:20
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Oct 30 2007, 08:20 AM) [snapback]351245[/snapback]
disagree.

he's scored an own goal by alleging that the linesman changed his mind, which is at odds with the authorised version:

"It would seem that following the bullying of the assistant by five Hamilton players, the assistant thought it expedient for him to change his decision relative to the validity of the goal."

Hey Trumpet when did you start supporting Hamilton. You're going out of your way to be obtuse. DDFR simply indicated that that was 'how it appeared'.The crucial thing is that he's demanded an enquiry.

Are you disappointed in him?
mortonjag 2007-10-30 09:22:06
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 30 2007, 08:54 AM) [snapback]351254[/snapback]
A bit too flowery on the language but I think he has been pretty temperate in his assessment.


laugh.gif laugh.gif

Aye, this week's episode of 'Life on a Shoogly peg' should be a cracker.

Anyway, I see we've still got coverage in today's 'Herald' and 'Sun' the latter sporting the banner-


REFFIN' RUBBISH



JM is quoted-'I'm going to be banned and I'm not going to appeal-I'm big enough to admit when I'm wrong'-and stating that Thomson isn't and that in Jim's opinion the whole story posted on 'Whistleblower' was concocted after the match.

mortonjag 2007-10-30 09:31:52
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 30 2007, 09:19 AM) [snapback]351260[/snapback]
So neither official actually saw a handball (hardly surprising as from all accounts apart from a few Accies fans it sounds as if there wasn't a handball - Temps said it went in off his shoulder as he was trying to head it). Surely they can't award a foul unless they actually see it? i.e. the player is innocent until proved guilty. It's not sufficient for a ref to say "there MIGHT have been a handball", it has to have been clearly seen. Therefore the ref got it wrong on several levels. And he got it wrong by changing his decision long after it was made, purely as a result of bullying.

If you read the SFA statement Alibi, it's even more convoluted. Apparently the second Linesman 'had a clear view of the incident, and would have told the Ref, had he thought a goal was still going to be awarded'.

That, despite the fact that he made no attempt to signal this precious information to Mr Thomson at the time when he DID award the goal.

Furthermore, Thomson claims that 'the correct decision was reached in the end after consulting SEVERAL sources'!!!

Now I assume that those several include his lying cheating second assistant, and...erm...the Holy Trinity.

The only other sources on that bloody pitch were wearing red and white hoops. SURELY he wasn't indicating the Hamilton players? dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-30 09:35:29
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 30 2007, 09:28 AM) [snapback]351265[/snapback]
Now let's not be too hasty - a replay? We might lose 6-1... smile.gif

I'd bet a pound to a penny the boys would bust a gut to win a replay, given the circumstances!
mortonjag 2007-10-30 09:39:18
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 30 2007, 09:34 AM) [snapback]351267[/snapback]
Did anyone hear the rumour that Craig Thomson's favourite colour is pink, that the standside linesboy is a VERY close friend of his (they were seen out for a drink together on Saturday night in a bar called Planet Out, near the Playhouse Theatre in Edinburgh), and that Thomson voted for Wendy Alexander at the recent election? And I heard from a reliable source (i.e. not a match official) that he was seen before the game handing out sweeties near the children's gate.

I'm not saying any of it is true of course, just asking! But feel free to embellish at your leisure...

I bet Thomson dreads getting his fixture list in case he's assigned to a game at Cappielow. To run the line in front of the Cowshed.

There is an equally unreliable rumour circulating which suggests that Mr Thomson is 'a pillar of his local church', and would not lie, even if his life depended on it.
mortonjag 2007-10-30 09:43:59
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 30 2007, 09:27 AM) [snapback]351264[/snapback]
I've got goosebumps. You sound like that old guy who gave Billy his Mogwai.

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At the moment I know what I'd like to give Mr Thomson, and it ain't a big cuddle! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-30 09:49:46 For that video evidence of Sanny's goal. I'm led to believe that Hamilton had video equipment running-surely they must half a credible version of events available!!!!!!!!!
mortonjag 2007-10-30 10:02:23
QUOTE(Youngsa @ Oct 30 2007, 09:57 AM) [snapback]351276[/snapback]
I spoke with one of my colleagues this morning - his son plays for Hamilton - and he has assured me that there is definitely video evidence.

According to his son, the video clearly shows Sanny handling the ball.

I asked for a copy and also asked that one be sent to DDFR and was met with a stoney silence followed by 'I dont think that will be possible'


It clearly doesnt matter what the video shows it is now about the conduct of the officials.

For what its worth my colleague cannot believe the behaviour of either Hamilton or the officials in this matter

Giving with one hand and taking with the other-no evidence provided= hearsay, and anyway, as you say, it doesn't really matter. Every single week goals are awarded and chalked off incorrectly, and it does tend to balance out.

This was quite different.
mortonjag 2007-10-30 11:13:04
QUOTE(Lancashire Hot Pot @ Oct 30 2007, 11:00 AM) [snapback]351293[/snapback]

Templeman's story has been consistent from the word go-Alibi spoke to him directly after the game, and he stated the ball went in off his shoulder. It strikes me that the whole thing happened so quickly that very few (if any of the other players) could have REALLY seen what happened. It may well have looked like handball from certain angles. Why was Halliwell making such a hoo ha after they'd got their three points-if we are to believe Sanny, the goalie deliberately lied when he claimed the former had admitted to handling.
mortonjag 2007-10-30 11:21:11
QUOTE(Robert the Bruce @ Oct 30 2007, 10:56 AM) [snapback]351290[/snapback]
Alcohol is by far the biggest cause of mental illness but that's ok, its a legal drug. The Government review the same report they used to drop cannabis a class, then amazingly find new evidence to re-class it again. rolleyes.gif
You should know better MJ, most who suffer mental illness are likely to do so whether they use cannabis, alcohol etc.
I have seen 3 people go through this and its a horrible experience, one of the 3 is no longer with us.
Interesting that the 3 biggest drugs people have serious addiction to are alcohol, class A's (heroin,cocaine,crack) and prescription drugs. The Government won't even admit alcohol is an addictive substance which is a complete joke as there are more alcoholics than all the others put together. So its back to the same old hypocrisy and we go nowhere because not one politician has the baws to do anything about it. Alibi, the zero tolerance attitude is stuck in a Tory time-warp and has no-chance of ever working or in-fact being of any use.

Legalise the lot, i have said this for years its better to control the supply and take out the crime/criminal element rather than the status quo which is simply not working and never will. Oh and stop methadone all it does is encourage abuse and it certainly does not get people off drugs.

Rant over tongue.gif

You misunderstood me. I have specialist knowledge of addictions, and you correctly highlight the huge menace of alcohol. As I stated, cannabis is the commonest cause of non genetic PSYCHOTIC illness (insanity).
mortonjag 2007-10-30 11:39:03
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Oct 30 2007, 11:24 AM) [snapback]351300[/snapback]
I have seen this in friends who smoked cannabis regularly over last 25yrs or so, I have watched their personalities change and they have been the ones to have suffered mental illnesses more than friends who, like me prefer a wee vodka. sad.gif

Sad but true LL. Alcohol induced psychosis tends to occur in the end stages of chronic severe abuse, and is relatively uncommon, whereas more and more pyschotic illness-particularly full blown schizophrenia- is being diagnosed in young folk who have regularly abused hash for maybe five to ten years.
mortonjag 2007-10-30 12:03:53
QUOTE(Edinton @ Oct 30 2007, 12:00 PM) [snapback]351305[/snapback]
Just looking at the pics from the game on Saturday, and was looking at the pitch... If I remember correctly Dunfermline weren't allowed to continue to use theirs in the SPL, so what's the legality of Hamilton's, assuming they go up? Is it a different type?

Their rightly lauded youth setup is built around constant access to it I would assume, so that would majorly impact them if they went up and had to remove it surely?

I don't know the answer, but on Saturday it was obvious that the ball reacts entirely differently, and on a wet and windy day, our players had great difficulty at times. Are SPL regulatons not rather plastic anyway! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-30 12:10:30
QUOTE(dazza @ Oct 30 2007, 10:46 AM) [snapback]351288[/snapback]
No my opinion of him has not changed one bit. He is doing the least i would expect of a manager after an incident like this.

He played 60 odd minutes on saturday without a left mid, which was an absoulte discgrace. He still doesnt have a keeper signed. Only he knows why he hasnt looked at the loan market.

I can't see how Jim's ability as a manager can suddenly have changed-he has a long way to go IMO, but ever since the away game at Dundee, he's been MUCH more involved on match days-relating to the players on the pitch, and generally showing some passion. So far as Saturday's concerned, I'm behind him 100%-in fact I'd go as far as to suggest that he was relatively constrained in his behaviour.

Furthermore, he has not criticised the SFA, he has merely suggested that one of its employees may be letting it down-now I call that doing the SFA a favour.
mortonjag 2007-10-30 12:16:55
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Oct 30 2007, 12:08 PM) [snapback]351310[/snapback]
it is a difrent tipe if i remember ritetlly think dunfermlind had the 1st tipe and hamelton have the stage 3 or somthing like that.

dont know whever thay will have to rip it up

its irelivent anyway thay are going to get religated for ther anticks on saterday lol

I don't think they'll go that far TBH-probably just deduct 10 points and report some of their players to Equity for performing without qualifications.
mortonjag 2007-10-30 12:30:00
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Oct 30 2007, 11:07 AM) [snapback]351295[/snapback]
Does anyone have a clue what went on in South Street at approx 12.49am this morning. Fireworks going off big time smoke everywhere and fire engine was there. Firemen had to go through Caddlehill Street into a back yard , sounded like a magazine being blown up! They should ban them. I hate them!

Agreed-I don't see the point in discharging fireworks(if that's the correct expression) willy nilly for weeks before and after November 5th, and even then I believe displays should be regulated. Apart from the social nuisance, countless serious injuries are suffered every year from abuse of those 'toys'.
mortonjag 2007-10-30 12:34:52
QUOTE(dazza @ Oct 30 2007, 12:26 PM) [snapback]351315[/snapback]
It wont be an issue. Dundee will be promoted.

Even after Hamilton beat us at Cappielow, I had a lot of admiration for their success, as they built the squad largely from youth resources. I now realise that they are just a shower of big weans who can't accept a 'dunt', so f*ck them. I very much hope they begin to stagnate.
mortonjag 2007-10-30 17:22:48
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Oct 30 2007, 01:38 PM) [snapback]351338[/snapback]
Already done as of 9am this morning.

Along with a fairly detailed request for clarification and about half a dozen points that make no sense
given the photographic evidence, the officials behaviour on the day and the subsequent nonsense explanation.

I won;t hold my breath.

TonInDublin

Excellent, and I still exhort as many as possible to e-mail the sfa-it doesn't matter if the message is relatively short-just to keep them on their toes after Douglas Rae's official request for an enquiry. They are past masters of waiting for problems to 'go away', and as far as I'm concerned, this one won't! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-30 17:24:48
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 30 2007, 02:33 PM) [snapback]351351[/snapback]
The explanation on the SFA website looks suspiciously like a story made up between the ref and his linesmen. As for the other linesman thinking it was a handball, how could he possibly have seen - he was at the halfway line or beyond, and the ball came in from the far side - it would not have been possible for him to see it clearly.

This now smacks of a cover up - they can't admit they were swayed by the Accies players or coaching staff but clearly that is what happened.

As stated unequivocally by JM.
mortonjag 2007-10-30 17:48:51
QUOTE(big B @ Oct 30 2007, 03:23 PM) [snapback]351359[/snapback]
I know there has been Emai's sent to the Sfa and was not going to bother but ater reading the newspaers today I am disgusted with Thomson lying so I fired this to the Sfa.

I am sending this e-mail regarding the fiasco at the Hamilton v Greenock Morton game on Saturday. I was going to let the matter go as a mistake by both offical's that was until I read the reports in the press on 30/10/2007 and on the Sfa's whistleblower.

I was in the away stand on Saturday and could not say one way or the other if the ball struck Chris Templeman's hand or not. What I can say is 100 per cent is that in no way did the farside asst referee put his flag up to attract the referee's attention to his mistake. Bearing in mind it took the referee a a minute to get the Morton players into their own half after the goal.

I am saddened that a professional referee is publicly lying to save his own skin from this major blunder and that he and his 2 assistants got their heads togther to get their stories straight for their reports. I hope the Sfa will be having an enquiry as what went on at New Douglas Park on 27/10/2007 was shambolic

I hope you didn't sign it 'Big B', or they'll just think it's from a jealous Ref!
mortonjag 2007-10-30 18:18:49
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Oct 30 2007, 05:18 PM) [snapback]351407[/snapback]
At no point have I said I am not interested or attempted to stop anyone else maintaining an interest - [b]simply asked the question what can we realistically achieve?[/b]

Would have been more interested to hear how you think the "matter will be concluded" rather than don't like it dont read it dry.gif

....while suggesting we would be parodied like OF 'scum fans'.

Nach0 is spot on, and bear in mind if you see an injustice and turn a blind eye, you are condoning it.

What I hope to get out of this is more responsibility and accountability from our Referees. The evidence that Mr Thomson thinks he is above Greenock Morton Football Club is overwhelming. His pathetic pack of lies does his profession and employers huge discredit, and I want him exposed publicly for the liar he is.

One Champions League match Sir, and you think you are God almighty-well I hope they bring you down with a God almighty clatter.
mortonjag 2007-10-30 18:21:34
QUOTE(Ken_Ton @ Oct 30 2007, 06:12 PM) [snapback]351427[/snapback]
Agree absolutely we should keep the emails going - at least to avoid giving the SFA the option of saying 'we only received a small number of complaints given the crowd at the game' or something similar.
I had emailed both the SFL and SFA. The SFL have replied saying the responsibility for referee appointments and disciplinary matters are the SFA's and have forwarded my email.

The email address is

drew.herbertson@scottishfa.co.uk

hopefully if he receives enough comment we will get some sort of response, the message needs to get across that decisions cannot be changed by player pressure.

My e-mail was just posted on their 'contact us' part of the web site. Do you specifically know who Drew Herbertson is, and what is his specific remit?
mortonjag 2007-10-30 18:25:21
QUOTE(Mark Yardley @ Oct 30 2007, 06:06 PM) [snapback]351424[/snapback]
Have always found craigie boy to be a very honest and trustworthy person tongue.gif

PS was it not thickelman that admitted to the handball to the hamilton goalie laugh.gif

boom boom boom

Always paid up front for his stash, then? dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-30 18:28:15
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Oct 30 2007, 06:25 PM) [snapback]351432[/snapback]
I think everything to be said about the ref has been said, so no point me repeating the fact that he's a tosser.
However, what seems to have been glossed over is the fact that the Hamilton goalkeeper is LYING.
On Traynor's radio show, a caller (Alibi, I think?) said that he spoke to Templeman after the match and the player denied using his hand. In one of today's papers, he reiterates that claim as well as adding that Halliwell was pretty much attempting to bully him into a "confession" by having a wee go at him in the tunnel. I would like to think that as well as challenging the actual decision, GMFC make a complaint about the Hamilton keepers comments.

Not only that, but talking of cheats and liars, very little has been made of Super Ref bottling out of the additional time we were due. He was so keen to get in a huddle with the other two to cover his arse for the SFA, that he cheated us out of at least five minutes.
mortonjag 2007-10-30 18:37:03
QUOTE(Robert the Bruce @ Oct 30 2007, 04:12 PM) [snapback]351378[/snapback]
They sell alcohol legally to people as young as 18 and its the biggest problem. Its also easily available to kids under 18 and is the cause of about 90% of the violence, stabbings, slashings, etc, etc, etc, that goes on every weekend or even daily. If i had a choice as to what one would be dealt with it would be alcohol. I could also pick out about 30 alcoholics to every 1 person who has suffered mental illness due to cannabis use. I am not condoning the use of cannabis but it gets a bit of a joke when a much wider problem is all but ignored just because its legal.

Far more if the truth be told, but alcoholism is a genetic illness, which can't simply be managed by making alcohol less freely available.

Cannabis, on the other hand, is still widely perceived as the cool middle class recreational drug which can be harmlessly enjoyed 'til you're in your dotage. That is often just SO inaccurate.
mortonjag 2007-10-30 18:40:14 Mr Craig Thomson certainly believes in his Higher Power. In that respect I'd equate JM with Marx.
mortonjag 2007-10-30 18:42:10
QUOTE(stuart @ Oct 30 2007, 06:30 PM) [snapback]351435[/snapback]
Apparently he is the SFA "head of discipline"

TY-I shall deal with it.
mortonjag 2007-10-30 18:45:20 I haven't even given Saturday a thought yet-too upset by the Hamilton fiasco. Stirling are on a high-I'd guess we'll get a good game and here's hoping.
mortonjag 2007-10-30 18:46:27
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Oct 30 2007, 06:10 PM) [snapback]351426[/snapback]
not at all - fair play to him and JM

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mortonjag 2007-10-31 04:24:59
QUOTE(ianton @ Oct 30 2007, 07:25 PM) [snapback]351456[/snapback]
Well i hope the sfa are really proud of themselves over this incident on Saturday.the very least that should happen is that Morton are awarded a share of the points.i know this wont happen but it should.
Our manager and his assistant should be completely exonerated for their behavior,after all if it wasn't for the BULLYING of the Hamilton players and staff to a weak referee and linesman,we would have never
been in this situation now.I have never witnessed anything like this in my 40 years of going to football matches.The referee and linesman involved should never be allowed in charge of a senior game of football ever again.I have never been drawn into writing emails and letters before but what went on at Hamilton on Saturday has just made me so angry.There are so many inconsistences in the referees report that
it is obvious they are trying to cover up the truth.Please make sure justice is done in a fair and proper way

i realise that my English isn't perfect.I hope they get the gist of the message.

There's nothing wrong with your English, and the more e-mails like yours they receive, the more likely something is to happen.
mortonjag 2007-10-31 04:56:32 The Hamilton v Ton debacle won't die until we get a response from the SFA. I've already e-mailed them, and today will be writing personally to their Chief Executive Officer.


If Mr Thomson had, like many good referees, been honest in his post match summary, I guess the majority would have forgiven him for a rather humungous error of judgement.

What is making me seethe is the fact that he clearly believes he will get away with the incredible story published on the SFA web site, when in fact so much of it is either highly debatable, or patent fabrication.

On high moral ground he announces that 'the correct decision was reached in the end', BUT WAS IT?

Furthermore he claims that this 'correct decision' (made ON the pitch), was the result of consultation with SEVERAL sources, yet we are informed that one of his assistants was unable to help. Those several sources MUST, logically, include at least two Hamilton players, and indeed there was confirmation in the newspapers that they thought they HAD influenced Thomson's decision.

To summarise

I contend that Sanny scored a perfectly good goal-there is ample evidence to confirm his unwavering version of events-and that having awarded the goal CORRECTLY, the Referee was persuaded to change his decision by Hamilton players.

Unless somebody can provide conclusive video or photographic evidence of a 'punch' or handball, Hamilton's case becomes very weak indeed.

Irrespective of that evidence, Thomson, IMO, does not have a leg to stand on.

So why should we NOT be awarded a share of the points, and why should Thomson NOT be publicly disgraced for bringing the game into disrepute?
mortonjag 2007-10-31 05:20:24
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Oct 30 2007, 02:04 PM) [snapback]351349[/snapback]
Must be kept in plastic bottles as it etches glass. Just in case you are offered some!

I have formed a glass effigy of a Mr C Thomson.
mortonjag 2007-10-31 05:23:53 I have a saltire as the wallpaper on my mobile. I'm proud to be Scottish.I did not vote in the last election.
mortonjag 2007-10-31 05:27:16
QUOTE(Robert the Bruce @ Oct 30 2007, 09:39 PM) [snapback]351508[/snapback]
I doubt it was as bad back then as it is now.

Start with one ton of good resin,
Use one industrial grinder to powder the resin.
Add the above ingredients in red (also add shredded plastics and linen for bulk)
Mix with animal pee, diesel or any available cheapish liquid.
Reform in to 10 tons of lovely SOAPBAR.

Result - ££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££

Downside - smoking is more likely to cause brain damage than mental illness or if your lucky you get mental illness first just for the buzz.

....and smoking significantly increases the risk of lung cancer over that from ordinary cigarettes.
mortonjag 2007-10-31 05:34:51
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 30 2007, 07:05 PM) [snapback]351447[/snapback]
He's not smart or scheming enough to be Groucho, not funny enough to be Chico or Harpo, so are you thinking Zeppo? I'd go for Gummo myself.

How about 'Zero'?
mortonjag 2007-10-31 05:38:48
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Oct 31 2007, 03:28 AM) [snapback]351569[/snapback]
I'm spiritual and believe in a higher power ; it's not right for you to state ''a higher power i.e. God'' , belief in a higher power does not necessarily mean a belief in God.

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I believe that each person can find his own 'higher power'. After years of struggling with atheism/agnosticism, I finally managed to get my head round this concept, and for me, it works.
mortonjag 2007-10-31 06:27:15 Who'd be a Ref-eh? sad.gif

Well you'd be surprised at the variety of profiles on the SFA site. We have Professor Underhill, Mr Somers, the tax inspector, and that well known construction industry lawyer Craig Thomson from Pishley

Mr Thomson lists his pet hate as 'Lack of respect shown by players'. laugh.gif

His main strength? 'I am determined and focused'. laugh.gif laugh.gif

On gastronomy he asserts that he is inclined to chicken! wink.gif

Advice to young referees? 'You're only as good as your last game'. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Luck or judgement? 'Definitely luck'.

Wonder if that ran out for him last Saturday?

mortonjag 2007-10-31 07:25:58
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Oct 31 2007, 07:12 AM) [snapback]351584[/snapback]
Ahem - Hamilton don't need a case.

We shouldn't be awarded a share of the points because FIFA's view is that stuff happens and it's part and parcel of the game.

Unless of course you can prove corruption.

And Thomson should NOT be publicly disgraced for bringing the game into disrepute because of knee-jerk reactions from disgruntled fans.


If you wish to address me as 'Ahem', Trumpet, maintaining the sartorial theme, may I describe you as 'Agusset'?


One of the Hamilton staff awaits the outcome of the Referee's report, and if an enquiry demonstrates that other players behaved irresponsibly they will certainly have a case to answer.

Can you give me a link to the FIFA site where they state, 'Greenock Morton shouldn't be awarded a share of the points because 'STUFF HAPPENS'. I do hope it's in English, though I've downloaded translator software just in case.

Thomson SHOULD be publicly disgraced if he has indeed lied in his report-that, I'd suggest is beyond debate.
mortonjag 2007-10-31 07:28:08
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Oct 31 2007, 07:17 AM) [snapback]351585[/snapback]
Completely over the top, if not surprising, comment. What's wrong with a bit of passion? rolleyes.gif

Nothing darling-are ye free the night?
mortonjag 2007-10-31 10:35:34
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Oct 31 2007, 07:42 AM) [snapback]351588[/snapback]
i think i'll be washing ma hair

You ALWAYS say that! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-31 10:44:52
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Oct 31 2007, 10:27 AM) [snapback]351622[/snapback]
We shouldn't get a share of the points because at the end of the game we lost. You can argue we lost because of poor refereeing but we still lost. We have gained and lost points over the years because of dubious decisions and lived with it.

The Hamilton game is history. Morton have raised the issue with those concerned, let them deal with it.

What we need is a win against Stirling on Saturday.

In actual fact, 'at the end of the game' we had played about 85 minutes of competitive football-IF THAT.

If an enquiry were to show that Thomson's change of opinion, AFTER HIS DECISION (note to TrumpingTon) which should have been final, the SFA have no choice but to schedule a replay, or split the points IMO.
mortonjag 2007-10-31 10:48:52 post not found
mortonjag 2007-10-31 11:18:58
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 31 2007, 10:54 AM) [snapback]351629[/snapback]
So I take it Mr Blatter will be incensed that Hamilton players doubted the referees initial interpretation of events?

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mortonjag 2007-10-31 11:23:21
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Oct 31 2007, 11:00 AM) [snapback]351631[/snapback]
The whole thing stinks and I wish GMFC all the best in their appeal- not for Morton but for the sake of the game.
I'd be happy if the SFA were to punnish the ref for his actions and end it at that.

Even today, the 'Herald' has published a letter from somebody who's demanding an official enquiry. It's really quite simple. Thomson made a human error-we all do that.

His unforgivable mistake was believing he could sweep it under the carpet, and in so doing, he's discredited his fellow referees IMO.

I've written personally to Gordon Smith this morning, asking him to honour the Club's request for an enquiry.
mortonjag 2007-10-31 11:29:11
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Oct 31 2007, 11:26 AM) [snapback]351635[/snapback]
I was informed that he has the Falkirk game this weekend mellow.gif

Aye -the Bairns!
mortonjag 2007-10-31 12:30:16
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 31 2007, 12:23 PM) [snapback]351646[/snapback]
Oh what a vulgar person you are. I love haggis neeps and totties. For a pinko lefty like me though it would need to be veggie haggis. They do a mean version of this in Babbity Bowsters in Glasgow, one of my favourite poncey, pretentious pubs. biggrin.gif

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Veggie haggis in Babbity Bowsers-I'd rather have a reheated dinner in the Star Bar, Mr Edwards, and what's with the 'totties'? The only 'Tottie' I ever knew played for the Skunks many years ago. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-31 12:39:01
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 31 2007, 12:25 PM) [snapback]351647[/snapback]
I can't seem to get the link to work but if a copy of the paper is lying near by you give it a read. It is the best summing up of the incident from Saturday I have read anywhere...here or in the papers.

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Somebody in the media's finally had the balls to call it correctly-probably got his script off our 'rag' too!

Interesting to see how our Lawyer friend Thomson reacts to that provocative litttle gem. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-31 12:56:13
QUOTE(Jocky Wilson @ Oct 31 2007, 10:16 AM) [snapback]351620[/snapback]
So where will we purchase tickets from :-s

Sounds like the Cooncil if they're hopin' to net £100,000!
mortonjag 2007-10-31 12:58:26
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 31 2007, 12:42 PM) [snapback]351651[/snapback]
Reheated dinners in the Star Bar eh. You're really plumbing the depths there Mentaljag. I shudder, or shouild I say chunder, at the thought. tongue.gif

Well I kind of meant microwaved and things, and it's awful good value for money.
mortonjag 2007-10-31 13:02:33
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Oct 31 2007, 12:52 PM) [snapback]351655[/snapback]
I am reading a book My Descent into Death by Howard Storm. Quite enlightening. It's about his Near Death Experience, only not the meeting the relatives, Angels kind of NDE. He is heading in a totally different direction. It's quite good and different. smile.gif

I once had a near death experience on that bend coming down from Greenock High towards George Square-just outside the cemetery to be precise.
mortonjag 2007-10-31 13:04:34
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 31 2007, 01:01 PM) [snapback]351659[/snapback]
Remember that the Hamilton players questioning of the decision rewarded them a decision.

Therefore clearly inferring that similar protests from Morton would be able to overturn the decision.

Will Thomson escape the noose?
mortonjag 2007-10-31 13:12:59
QUOTE(axeman @ Oct 31 2007, 01:04 PM) [snapback]351663[/snapback]
I take it Jim means appealing his dismissal, rather than the inquiry.

I'd imagine so-JM's actually said from the word go that he was man enough to admit his mistake, unlike our referee friend, and in simply requesting an enquiry, I fail to see how the Club can be required to shell out.

The SFA has a legal and moral responsibility to ensure that fair play is administered by its Referees. If they fail to investigate this matter on the basis of the Ref's comments they are guilty of complicity with deceipt. My take is that Gordon Smith has been trying to move them out of the'Dark Ages' of 'ask no questions, and I'm hopeful that the matter will be addressed in the same way as complaints to other Professional bodies are.
mortonjag 2007-10-31 13:17:55
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 31 2007, 01:02 PM) [snapback]351662[/snapback]
What's the e-mail address?

You will only get an anonymous e-mail address off the SFA website.

Write to


Gordon Smith,
Chief Executive,
The Scottish Football Association Ltd.,
Hampden Park.
Glasgow G42 9AY


Alternatively you could e-mail F.A.O the Chief Executive.

I sent mine this morning by recorded delivery.
mortonjag 2007-10-31 13:26:54
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Oct 31 2007, 01:20 PM) [snapback]351670[/snapback]
Most Scots celebrate in style and with panache and don't need anyone to show them how to enjoy special days. I went to my first real Burns Supper when I was 14yrs old. Loved it. Although something does stick in my throat and it's,Who dared to name "Chicken Balmoral" I have been stuffing my chicken fillets with haggis for years.Balmoral is too Royal even for me. sad.gif

What a beautifully evocative expression!
mortonjag 2007-10-31 13:51:38
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Oct 31 2007, 01:34 PM) [snapback]351676[/snapback]
85 minutes !! What are you ranting on about now. The game finished. We all went home. The lights got switched off. The sun came up on Sunday morning. It is now part of history.

Concentrate on beating Stirling on Saturday, thats what we should be doing. This is only a distraction.

I shall be putting my heart and soul into supporting the Ton come Saturday-I don't see much else I can do meantime to assist in their build up for that game.

Let me assure you in the strongest possible terms that the Thomson issue is FAR FROM part of history.

Instead of trying to score cheap points with comments like 'What are you ranting on about', you'd be better occupied taking a long hard look at your own attitude. Tell me HOW it is'part of history', or for that matter, why YOU believe it should be, when the majority of your fellow supporters clearly do not.

Did Mortonjag once call you a nasty word or something? I'm backing Douglas Rae and the club to the hilt on this, and have made a personal effort by way of e-mail and letter.

Meanwhile all YOU seem able to do is sit scratching your arse like some latter day Neville Chamberlain.

If you p.m. me your address I'll nip round tonight with the Monkey and nick all your possessions when you're out at the local Pessimism Society. You seem to like that sort of thing-you know-being illegally deprived of your rights, and blessing the thief for his efforts mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-31 14:35:55
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Oct 31 2007, 02:08 PM) [snapback]351692[/snapback]
Your personal abuse really does not do you justice. You must try harder.

It has already happened therefore it is history.

I gave you the opportunity to explain your remark that the gane was not over as we only played 85 minutes but you missed it.

The majority of morton supporters don't even read this board let alone contribute to it. (however i do and i enjoy and respect the right to all opinions without launching personal attacks).

You are backing Douglas Rae (not shoogly or shoogly pegs or that old fool or all the other childish names you refer to him by on other posts) I am sure he is delighted.

You have written a letter to the SFA. Good for you ( i mean that no sarcasm). So have I (before you did).

P.M. you my address (but you already know it laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif )

I'm not conscious of knowing your address-'fraid you really have me confused on that one. What did you say to the S.F.A. I wonder-'Your nice wee ref meant well, and don't fuss too much'? dry.gif

I'm not attempting to delight Auld Shoogly any more than he normally delights me-he's doing the right thing here, and I support that.

..and to your opening comment about personal abuse-I note that you fired the first shot with your question about 'ranting'.

Why are you telling another poster to let Morton/SFA get on with it, and then announcing that YOU have written to them-are you more important than everybody else. Have you decided off your own bat that we should all now shut up because YOU wrote to the SFA?

The more noise that's made about this, the longer the media maintain interest, and the larger the number of complaints they receive-all will make it much more difficult for the SFA to assign the matter to 'history'.
mortonjag 2007-10-31 16:29:30
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Oct 31 2007, 03:16 PM) [snapback]351720[/snapback]
If I was putting together a petition or I was lobbying for your support I would publish the content of my letter. As I am not then I will not.

If you want to write more letters (as I do) try this link,

http://www.amnesty.org/campaign/

See you at the pessimism club for a cup of tea and a wee piece of humble pie.

Ah the banter laugh.gif laugh.gif

unsure.gif

That stuff's REALLY part of YOUR diet? dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-31 16:38:36 Total speculation about the video evidence until all's out in the open, and it has NEVER mattered how Chris steered the ball into the net. Interesting that Struthers has used the legal term subpoena'd-the video. Even more interesting that he's on the Ref's committee. Is somebody trying to put the frighteners on us? Suggesting that Thomson did not give the goal in the first instance proves him a liar-so how often is he prepared to lie?
mortonjag 2007-10-31 17:04:35
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Oct 31 2007, 04:16 PM) [snapback]351734[/snapback]
Has anyone else noted the absence of our regular vikingTON? It seems there's no time for alter-egos in the midst of such a fiasco wink.gif

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mortonjag 2007-10-31 17:30:27 Looks like Shoogly's got the bit between his teeth-excellent!

Hamilton are going to a HELL of a trouble to 'prove' that the goal was 'correctly awarded,yet as Mr Rae indicates, Thomson admits he FINALLY reached the right decision-in other words he changed a previous decision.

Hamilton don't NEED to support the Referee, and Billy Reid seems to have retained some dignity, but this bloody Struthers is on the Ref's committee. He knows better than most that if Thomson gets hauled over the coals for bowing to pressure, it also puts his players in a bad light, so they've closed ranks, hidden away this all revealing video which may prove to be as reliable as a paper fire door, and are praying that the whole thing will die a death.

Well, IT WON'T.
mortonjag 2007-10-31 17:37:18
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Oct 31 2007, 05:10 PM) [snapback]351754[/snapback]
“He who is humble is confident and wise. He who brags is insecure and lacking.†wink.gif

In my experience humble people, though often very winsome, rarely achieve a great deal. I'd prefer to describe myself as 'respectful', but only of those who merit respect. dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-31 17:42:01
QUOTE(lemmington @ Oct 31 2007, 05:30 PM) [snapback]351760[/snapback]
Don't we have any video evidence to prove that Laurel & Hardy awarded a goal until sucumbing to pressure from Hamilton players.

I believe the equipment arrived without vital batteries or some other accessory, which was unavailable from the Hamilton lot.

Anyhow, don't shed a tear-all that this purported video evidence proves at the moment is that Hamilton, (whom you'd imagine would be staying nice and quiet about their three points), are going to ENORMOUS lengths for some reason.

No smoke without fire they say!
mortonjag 2007-10-31 17:46:00
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Oct 31 2007, 05:42 PM) [snapback]351766[/snapback]
Within the context of the discussion I thought it was correct to point out that I was not being led or trying to lead as had been insinuated. Rather I was acting upon my own volition, as I would encourage all posters to do. FYI I have attended Cappielow since 1967. I am a season ticket holder as are all my children.

Your humble pie bill must be immense!
mortonjag 2007-10-31 17:59:55
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Oct 31 2007, 05:52 PM) [snapback]351769[/snapback]
and on that note dry.gif I shall bid you good night as I have far to travel and the camels are in need of water.
I hope to engage with you in in this verbal posturing when I pass this way again. rolleyes.gif

Taken the hump, have we?
mortonjag 2007-10-31 18:02:10
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Oct 31 2007, 05:53 PM) [snapback]351770[/snapback]
"Hamilton don't NEED to support the Referee, and Billy Reid seems to have retained some dignity,
but this bloody Struthers is on the Ref's committee."

Ah-ha -the same Mr Struthers who on a previous occasion took the side of a certain person by the name of
Hugh Scott.


Goes to show ah s'pose.

Really-that must surely go a long way to establishing his integrity! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-10-31 18:03:43 Bloody hell-what is it with bones this season?
mortonjag 2007-11-01 05:27:53
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Oct 31 2007, 07:47 PM) [snapback]351811[/snapback]
It's firework season why don't you put a rocket up his erse blink.gif

.....just for a change from the normal boring routine.
mortonjag 2007-11-01 05:36:40
QUOTE(mortonno1 @ Oct 31 2007, 10:37 PM) [snapback]351888[/snapback]
I think some people are missing the point here.Saturdays game is over.Morton lost.That is not the issue.....it is the implications of the officials actions that are the real issues......Every player , in every league , in every country now knows that a referee and his assistants decisions CAN be changed by players moaning and greeting and wringing there hands.Up until saturday this was something that had NEVER happened before....That clown has brought the whole worldwide game into disrepute. so to the people who think its just one result that will be affected.......think again

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mortonjag 2007-11-01 05:42:26
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Nov 1 2007, 01:17 AM) [snapback]351959[/snapback]
perhaps the most baffling post of all.

a tortured soul with a hair shirt?

a vendetta against the management team?

a skunk?

a blind man?

Temps didn't cheat (i believe, hallelujah), but his head missed the ball and it came off some other part of his upper torso.

Temps is innocent.

The mayhem which followed is entirely predictable.

And just to be clear, the punishment to be handed out to the management team is well worth it if it means standing up for the club and its players

You've hit the right note Trumpet! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-01 06:20:13 I've been thinking about this all night, NOT that it matters how the goal was scored in terms of the Ref's behaviour, but just as a physiodynamic study, with a wee bit of perspective thrown in.

Forget the codswallop about 'conclusive evidence' from a twopenny halfpenny video camera perched on a ramshackle stand at the halfway line ON THE BLINDSIDE of the action, and look at Tontastic's four excellent still shots of the moment of contact.

What we all know is that the ball rocketed into the net-that alone suggests very strongly that it came off a 'solid' and non-articulating part of the body. Now look at the trajectory of the ball AND the position of Sanny's left arm GOING DOWN towards the ground instinctively (as does his other arm) to cushion his fall as he lunges forward in an attempt to head the ball.

How could that left arm EVER have generated enough force to beat Halliwell TO HIS LEFT, and return to that position in a fraction of a second? It is physically impossible.

The best the video can show is Sanny's arm apparently in front of the ball as he makes his effort-so-as the ball cannons off the INSIDE of his left, or outside of his right shoulder (the only possible ways in which it could have gone to the goalie's left) the video shot may APPEAR to show it striking the inside of his left upper arm. Only with a reverse angle shot could they ever prove their claim of deliberate use of the arm, or indeed the utterly laughable assertion by some that he 'punched' the ball in. Even if they 'faked' a video from that single camera, it would not count as court evidence on its own.


So Thomson DIDN'T get it right, and Sanny DIDN'T cheat, and Hamilton share ostrich proportion egg on the face with Pinocchio of Specsavers' sponsorship.


IT WAS A GOOD GOAL
mortonjag 2007-11-01 06:40:25 Hey axeman-you're getting old-one more year and you'll be a big boy!

Birthday shared with ERNIE of premium bonds (50), Channel 4 (25) and Paul Dickov (one of axeman's victims I wonder?)! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-01 06:43:15
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Oct 31 2007, 07:50 PM) [snapback]351812[/snapback]
Ha :-)

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True though!
mortonjag 2007-11-01 06:49:46
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 31 2007, 11:31 PM) [snapback]351930[/snapback]
Really. Then maybe we should deteriorate more often. tongue.gif


(bourgeois old duffers)

If a BOD deteriorates more Mr Edwards, it becomes a CORPSE-a Chappie of real presence, standing, and excellence, such as are encountered of an early afternoon in the Star Bar.
mortonjag 2007-11-01 06:53:21
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Nov 1 2007, 01:09 AM) [snapback]351957[/snapback]
I say there IS a Big Man upstairs.
And he's noisy as fukk most of the time dry.gif

Have you heard his son coming again?
mortonjag 2007-11-01 07:00:25
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Nov 1 2007, 06:37 AM) [snapback]351971[/snapback]
Legalise all drugs and give the junkies as much as they want, that way they should all be dead soon enough.

If you're going down that road, wouldn't it be simpler just to refuse medical treatment to 'junkies'

Mind you the red tape cost of defining a 'junkie' and implementing the system with its endless loopholes and exemptions, would probably cost the tax payer more than the original treatment.

Alternatively we could look more seriously at addiction and the addictive personality-once we nail that missing gene, there is hope.
mortonjag 2007-11-01 13:24:19
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Nov 1 2007, 08:26 AM) [snapback]351979[/snapback]
My final letter (of three this week) to the SFA - given I received no confirmation the others had even been read or received. No answers to any of the questions I asked, either personally (Which I didn't expect) or on Whistleblower. I did try - and before anyone asks - no I wasn;t at the game, but the rules are clear so my questions were valid, as is the final rant ......

Sirs,

Your silence is both deafening and speaks volumes. Yet again the very organisation purporting to be the bastion of all that is good about football does the game a huge disservice. You know what - you can forget your anti-simulations, your respect the officials and all your other rhetoric - for that is all it is - bluster and lies. Two officials at Hamilton on Saturday were WRONG. Plain and simple. Even if the archaic video evidence that Hamilton have apparently given to you shows a hand ball (Which it won't given it's position and quality) the officials awarded a goal. The referee subsequently LIED. He said he initially thought it was handball - in that case it's a free kick and a caution for the player involved if he thought it was deliberate. End of story. he didn't - he awarded a goal. The assistant referee awarded a goal - end of story. No flag up at ANY time till he was badgered by the Hamilton players - whereupon he lied. End of story. Now the Fractured Fairy Tale just gets better and better - the other official says he would have called it if the other two didn't - complete lie - if he had seen it from 100 yards away it would have been a miracle but if he did, his duty is to raise his flag to inform the referee. He didn't, and he subsequently lied - end of story. The instructions to assistants would never have allowed an assistant in ANOTHER HALF to call a decision which the referee and the other assistant were on top of - complete and utter fabrication. But you know what - the article in the Daily Record yesterday exposed the SFA and these three officials for what they were and are. They are incompetent and spineless - they have been subsequently found to be liars and cheats.

So do us all a favour - save your "fair play please" stuff - save it for when you intend to do the same thing yourself - till then I hope evey player up and down the country question every single decision of officials - because the precedent is set - players can alter decisions by their harassment.What's even more soul destroying is that a simple - "we got it wrong !" would have sufficed. Human beings are fallible, refs make mistakes the whole time, by and large innocently and honestly - a simple "we got it wrong" would have headed all of this off at the pass. As it stands you have ridiculed your organisation, the officials have ridiculed themselves and in so doing you have done a huge disservice to football and the people who pay the wages.

Result lads huh ?

No matter, the fines for McInally and Clark will be more than enough to pay for a few more bottles of Chianti at the Xmas night out.

Rarely has an organisation been so obviously distanced from the people it purports to support and represent.

For shame.

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TiD, I sent a recorded delivery letter to Gordon Smith yesterday. I have a fair bit of respect for him and was pointed but courteous, encouraging him to pursue his aim to take the SF out of the 'Dark Ages'. I fully expect a response in due course, but if it fails to materialise, I'll be writing to the national press with full details.
mortonjag 2007-11-01 13:37:07 When the chips are down, we fight a common enemy-simple as that. Douglas Rae and JM have both behaved in a proactive but responsible manner.

In particular, I feel that JM could have been excused for 'hooking' Thomson on Saturday. Sometimes it's almost impossible for even the most controlled personality to keep the lid on emotions, and to have seen your team struggle against the odds, only to be cheated by a so called top grade Referee is, for any manager unthinkable,yet it happened in pantomime circumstances.

Had the goal had just been chalked off from the word go, Jim would have bitten his lip, and got on with it.

There's little doubt in my mind that Saturday's events HAVE produced a greater unity among our fans-that won't necessarily last for long, but AYE, I believe we'll all be giving it 'laldy' against Stirling.
mortonjag 2007-11-01 14:30:10
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 1 2007, 01:38 PM) [snapback]352043[/snapback]
You saved a copy jag? Would be interesting to read

I have indeed Puggs, but because it was a personal letter, this is not the time to publicise it.

I have every faith in Mr Smith. He is an intelligent man, and as the Chief Executive, would, I imagine, see the wisdom in replying.

I have tried to enlist his help in dealing with incompetence by one of his employees, and have indicated that failure to act will not only compound the offence, but will be of huge disservice to Thomson's fellow referees, and to all involved in Scottish football.
mortonjag 2007-11-01 14:34:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 1 2007, 02:05 PM) [snapback]352059[/snapback]
Can't cappie the cat do it? laugh.gif

He'd be purrfect.
mortonjag 2007-11-01 14:38:46
QUOTE(nach0king @ Nov 1 2007, 02:19 PM) [snapback]352063[/snapback]
You're conducting yourself better than the handful of people who mentioned match-fixing.

Hardly warrants a chocolate watch, does it?

MATCH FIXING! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Don't let's get involved in silly games. Craig Thomson IS an experienced Ref, and if he wanted to fix a match, I'm sure it would be done with a modicum of subtlety. On Saturday he just had the 'howler' of his lifetime, and sadly his ego appears too big for him to have admitted that.
mortonjag 2007-11-01 14:46:10
QUOTE(Alibi @ Nov 1 2007, 02:06 PM) [snapback]352060[/snapback]
As a devout atheist I have no intention of downgrading Christmas. I'm generally pretty laissez-faire but I find myself getting really p1ssed off with useless "think tanks" (no doubt staffed by political science graduates who can't actually do anything useful to save themselves) and the like coming up with this sort of p1sh. Why the phuck should we change everything in the way suggested? Who on earth is actually offended by Christmas apart from a tiny minority of zealots whose own religion is at least as ridiculous if not more so? FFS some people really need to get a life. If anyone doesn't like people celebrating Christmas, don't join in. I don't do religion but if people want to, that's their business.

The REAL agenda behind this is not of course to level any playing fields - it's about more pandering to the extremist wing of the Islamic Republican Army, still living in the Middle Ages.

I'd happily ban Christmas, Ramadan, Yom Kippur etc. Why don't we, in this peaceful multicultural Nation just agree to ban all religion-I'm sure the Christians would be the last to agree!!! dry.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-01 14:49:44
QUOTE(Robert the Bruce @ Nov 1 2007, 01:21 PM) [snapback]352030[/snapback]
By KELVIN MACKENZIE

I AM English. I am not British. I love the English sense of humour. The irony, a feeling that a laugh and a joke is never far away.

I celebrate our devotion to work which has – thanks almost entirely to the Thatcher years – transformed us from the Sick Man of Europe to the Slick Man of Europe.

I salute the way a welcoming England, and its seemingly never-ending jobs boom, has made us the most attractive place on earth (with the possible exception of the United States) for immigrants of all colours and creeds.

Although the clever wealth-creators of England are generous to a fault, they don’t like either being taken for granted or made fools of.

And that is exactly what our tartan chums are doing to us today.

The facts are clear. Each Scot has £1,500 a head more spent on him than the English – even though that money comes almost exclusively from London and the southeast which, if a nation state, would be the eighth largest economy in the world.

They use that money, our money, to subsidise their health, transport, education and elderly policies which, because of our size, we simply can’t match.

For instance, in England only off-peak travel for pensioners is free while the Scots receive free bus and coach travel at any time for the over60s.

In Scotland eye tests are free and free dental checks are on the way. In England eye tests cost £18.85 and a dental check-up £15.90.

In England prescriptions are £6.85 but as from April Scotland will charge nothing for prescriptions connected with chronic illness, with all charges to be scrapped by 2011.

I could go on. All right I will.

In England if you are elderly but have assets of more than £20,500 you have to pay personal care costs.

Scotland nursing home residents, no matter what money they have, are entitled to “free personal careâ€.

That is why in the south there is burning resentment of this situation.

Throw in the fact that the Scots have elected the Nationalists to run their country – a party that wants to split from England – and it’s clear that we have now come to a divide in the road. I am enormously grateful to David Cameron for endorsing the idea that Scottish MPs will no longer be able to decide issues affecting England.

It’s only reasonable since English MPs can’t affect 97 per cent of the issues affecting Scotland.

Of course, we can’t look to McBottle and his mates to do the right thing. Putting aside the fact that it would destroy their careers, there are 39 Labour MPs north of the border.

There is only one Tory MP, which is amazing considering if it weren’t for the Tories there would be no money for them to receive in handouts as they are the only party that believes in wealth creation.

So McBottle, a miserable son of the manse if you ever met one, is certainly not going to do anything about this massively unfair situation.

Three weeks ago I appeared on BBC’s Question Time and raised the Scottish issue.

It caused an enormous row, with 200 complaints to the BBC, a demand that I be charged for being antiScottish and even The Sun in Scotland running three pages attacking me. (Calm down dear, calm down).

Today the landscape looks completely different.

It is the political issue for England and there is a great prize for Cameron if he can prove to the poor of the northeast, northwest and parts of London that he will look after them rather than the overfunded, feather-bedded Scots.

Personally, I am in favour of Scotland having its nationhood. Always have been.

There are dark mutterings across the border that the Scots will fight for “their†oil.

I have a warning for them. It is quite fashionable at the moment for us to attack places beginning with I.

First there was Iraq. Next on the list appears to be Iran. If I lived in Inverness right now I would be quite worried.

I quite like Inverness. But it would make a lovely car park.

Is this where Hee Haw gets his inspiration?
mortonjag 2007-11-01 15:16:16
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Nov 1 2007, 03:01 PM) [snapback]352081[/snapback]
I am in no doubt CT is trying to protect his career as a grade 1 referee . His take on the decision would knock JK Rowling off the best seller list .
However he will be treated as a neutral by the SFA the clubs protest and that of any supporter even your good self will be treated with an air of scepticism and fear of setting a presidence in such a case .
As for Dougie he is used to getting his own way in our small pond but you should know bigger and nastier fish then himself have been hooked by the SFA , I see no reason why things will be any different this time .

Chris, it's not often I admit to defeat in the cynicism stakes!

I know exactly where you're coming from-I'm just hopeful that the 'new look' SFA may be able to move on a little, and that's what we must surely hope for.
mortonjag 2007-11-01 15:19:05
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 1 2007, 03:08 PM) [snapback]352086[/snapback]
We're going fur the win! biggrin.gif

My bet's in the litter box.
mortonjag 2007-11-01 15:23:27 The Sun's keeping the pot boiling on Skunkgate today, and I can hardly believe the man in the piccy's the same benign old gent who beams at us from GMFC.net. He looks positively intimidating-specs an a'.
mortonjag 2007-11-01 16:00:32
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Nov 1 2007, 03:35 PM) [snapback]352104[/snapback]
Until you have a fourth official or independant arbitrator at every game what are the SFA to do .
With all the goodwill in the world any opinions from our club or supporters will be tarnished in the eyes of the SFA .
No one likes what happened but ultimately the responsibility was the match day officials . Their evidence will hardly clear JM or MC .
Lets hope the SFA do not recieve an of the more ludicrous allegations made on here or they will simply ignore everything and hammer us .

Chris-the picture's very clear to me. For years professional bodies and their defence associations have been advising that most complaints can be defused by simply admitting an error, and offering an explanation and apology.

Recently there's been a well publicised move within refereeing circles for more honesty and openness-a move which has been embraced, I believe, by Gordon Smith.

The 'ludicrous allegations' you mention, will hopefully be seen in the context of the immensity of Mr Thomson's deviation from current policy. I don't expect much by way of official announcement, but I'm extremely hopeful that an enquiry will be fairly instituted, and suitable disciplinary action taken.
mortonjag 2007-11-02 05:05:41 Havent a clue-Stirling are on a high, and have a great record against us, but we'll be itching to put last Saturday behind us.

The Monkey says Leafy will score two,and Spoonsy will make it three, but he reckons Stirling will Cramb one in.
mortonjag 2007-11-02 05:11:32
QUOTE(div @ Nov 1 2007, 07:23 PM) [snapback]352190[/snapback]
Are you STILL going on about that laugh.gif

Try www.getalife.com tongue.gif

Your link doesn't work you sick Pishley c*nt-does everything you touch shatter in small pieces?
mortonjag 2007-11-02 05:14:36
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ Nov 1 2007, 07:43 PM) [snapback]352196[/snapback]
See handball doesnt always mean Handball....

sometimes its an arm or an elbow. In our case its the part of Chris's body where the arm becomes the shoulder.

If you are wearing a Tshirt its just above the end of the sleeve.

Lets not allow Hamilton or Scott struthers or even the SFA, SFL or Mr Thomson to hide behind this.

FACT the ball came off Templemans shoulder, well above the elbow.

Even the ballboy who it looks as though is the real reason the goal is disallowed is pointing to his elbow.

For anyone to assume Templeman used his hand and/or punched the ball into the net is simply well well wide of the mark.

JB.

Jack, it's no longer about the fact that almost nobody got a decent view of the incident. It's about a Professional man-a lawyer in his day job- thinking he can tell barefaced lies to the whole of Scottish Football, and walk away Scot free.
mortonjag 2007-11-02 05:21:16
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Nov 1 2007, 05:44 PM) [snapback]352148[/snapback]
Since when did fractured thumb become broken hand? laugh.gif

And what is your definition of a 'broken hand' young man?

Is the famous Beckam injury- a fractured metal arsehole not also described as a 'broken foot', when in fact the foot's made up of loads of wee bits-just like the hand! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-02 05:40:35 He was sent off for giving Thomson the cold hand shoulder.
mortonjag 2007-11-02 05:50:45
QUOTE(El Duderino @ Nov 1 2007, 04:36 PM) [snapback]352134[/snapback]
Imagine what it'll be like when for the 2months before Ramadan we get bombarded with s***e like what starts today...

http://www.braehead.co.uk/

I see they've given Ian Fyfe a part time job.


HOW IT WORKS

The whole family will enter a room where the children will meet Santa on his sleigh. He will then give the kids a present and invite you all to fly with him around the world, helping him deliver presents to all the children.
mortonjag 2007-11-02 05:54:28
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Nov 1 2007, 08:18 PM) [snapback]352206[/snapback]
an example of the great british compromise biggrin.gif

Shouldn't the knickers be turned through 90 degrees?
mortonjag 2007-11-02 06:13:47 Too much of anything is bad for you by definition. The key to a long and healthy life seems to be 'everything in moderation'. That, of course includes exercise and safe sex. Shagging in the street may be fun, but the buses are usually in a hurry.









mortonjag 2007-11-02 09:31:41
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Nov 2 2007, 08:10 AM) [snapback]352300[/snapback]
If anyone fancy's a cheeky wee treble on Saturday then Morton, QOS and Thistle gets you around 20/1 - very generous imo. Fancy Queens to beat Hamilton and although Thistle's record at Deadwood's horrendous I quite fabcy them too.

QOS and Thistle gets u 10/1 (which I'm going for)

All subject to where you place your bet of course.

Hamilton have just come off a difficult and disappointing midweek cup match, and it's back to the grind for them. I also had a notion that Queens might at least share the points.
mortonjag 2007-11-02 09:35:32
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Nov 2 2007, 07:59 AM) [snapback]352299[/snapback]
So now and again it's safe to pump a right slag who's had more pricks than a pin cuhsion?

Not me of course, I'm totally faithful. I'm asking for the likes of Davie (the wee ride) and ThornTON (who'll pop his cherry that way) biggrin.gif

I'd suggest that those young lads might be better to let the said slag do the pumping-that way they won't look so daft! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-02 10:49:44
QUOTE(monyou @ Nov 2 2007, 10:30 AM) [snapback]352314[/snapback]
2 - 0 Ton, Spoonsy & Russell

After the week that was, Chairman's programme notes may run to 4 pages.


Well apparently few folk actually visit this 'rag' and even less GMFC, so this is DDFR's opportunity to spread the word.I'm sure he'll have had a good think, and hopefully the real issue will be addressed-namely a Ref reversing a legitimate goal because of player pressure, and lying about it later.
mortonjag 2007-11-02 10:51:49
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Nov 2 2007, 10:43 AM) [snapback]352316[/snapback]
Isn't that their actual day job though ?

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mortonjag 2007-11-02 10:56:18
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Nov 2 2007, 10:32 AM) [snapback]352315[/snapback]
Quite like female secretary types tongue.gif

..though some apparently DO have bizarre festive rituals!



the only people that appear to get all uppity about putting up decorations are the female secretary types
mortonjag 2007-11-02 12:29:06 The video's of no real value as is can't show conclusively from that angle and distance what happened. Even if it 'appears' to demonstrate an offence, that would have no standing per se in court.

If, however, in the fullness of time the SFA were to vindicate Thomson on the basis of that secret video, your information might be useful.
mortonjag 2007-11-02 12:36:33
QUOTE(steveoath @ Nov 2 2007, 11:02 AM) [snapback]352323[/snapback]
Interesting lines from JM:

"I’ll tell you he didn’t raise his flag and that you need to remember Struthers is on the SFA Referee’s Committee".

What a joke.

Struthers is quoted as saying 'he raised his flag briefly then put it back down' or very similar words.

WHY would he ever do that? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-02 16:22:24
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Nov 2 2007, 01:54 PM) [snapback]352361[/snapback]
And if we do there will be a tail to tell.

I hope there won't be a qualifying claws.
mortonjag 2007-11-02 16:26:27
QUOTE(Alibi @ Nov 2 2007, 02:41 PM) [snapback]352375[/snapback]
4-0 Morton. We have had a poor run of results against Stirling over the last few year. I reckon our boys will be really psyched up for this one. Weatherson, Stevenson, Russell, and Templeman with a blatant punch into the net with both hands, which the referee (from Hamilton) will initially disallow, but following consultation with the Stirling bench will eventually award.

Match Mascot: C. Thomson (Paisley). School: Ferguslie Park Primary. Favourite player: Chris Templeman. Hobbies: Playing with his willie.

'whistle' we call it here in suburbia.
mortonjag 2007-11-02 17:43:41
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 2 2007, 05:20 PM) [snapback]352424[/snapback]
They were cat puns, I'm assuming you were struggling so decided animal would suit you? tongue.gif

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDIt wasn't a catastrophe.
mortonjag 2007-11-02 17:59:24
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Nov 2 2007, 05:23 PM) [snapback]352426[/snapback]
True. I have already sent in an email, in reply to the letter.

The Record was obviously struggling to fill its wee letter box.


JOHN CRIDLE indeed

A budding young whistler named Cridle
now knows how to solve the 'Ref's riddle'-
how to keep self esteem
when you've f*cked some c*nt's team-
Craig told him 'It's easy Son-FIDDLE'.

mortonjag 2007-11-02 18:03:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 2 2007, 05:42 PM) [snapback]352430[/snapback]
Got the top from Ebay, £8 for the it inc delivery. Quite a smart top actually.

Shorts, whistle and refs wallet from JJB

.....now you just need a few bags of smack to pay your way into the CT school of acting.
mortonjag 2007-11-02 18:07:48 I have it on good authority that Gordon does exactly what Mrs Strachan tells him to.
mortonjag 2007-11-02 18:11:19
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Nov 2 2007, 04:15 PM) [snapback]352402[/snapback]
Is she from Paisley?

Aye-a miss Thomson-quite a well known family I gather-every one a wideo.
mortonjag 2007-11-02 18:12:52
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Nov 2 2007, 06:10 PM) [snapback]352439[/snapback]
i think you lot are making a miowntain out of a mewlhill

You ain't kitten
mortonjag 2007-11-02 18:43:01
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Nov 2 2007, 06:31 PM) [snapback]352446[/snapback]
Check earlier threads tongue.gif

Catty!
mortonjag 2007-11-02 18:46:21
QUOTE(axeman @ Nov 2 2007, 06:36 PM) [snapback]352450[/snapback]
A greetin faced wee article from The Times today.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/foo...icle2789882.ece

Don't pick on the refs, don't be incompetent ya bunch o' sacks mad.gif

Both Skunk sacks an' a'-now IMAGINE that! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-02 18:52:32
QUOTE(Street Walker @ Nov 2 2007, 06:32 PM) [snapback]352448[/snapback]
Yeah, it is all rumours!

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Nope-not about Mrs Strachan-she wears the troosers. Apparently she can't stand functions at the Piggery, and usually about three quarters way through the evening, she tells the Ginger Cretin Gnome she's off to the toilet. That's his cue to meet her in the car five minutes later, and it's home for Horlicks.
mortonjag 2007-11-03 08:11:27
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Nov 2 2007, 08:37 PM) [snapback]352467[/snapback]
Sorry didn't see the other thread started .

Now you COULD have said 'My initial assessment was that there was no other thread, and my assistant didn't have an uninterrupted view so I posted mine. Despite the existence of the other thread which APPEARS to pre date mine, I am satisfied I made the correct decision in the circumstances. I have submittted full details to the moderator which prove I was correct, but those will be kept secret, as you idiots are too insignificant to matter, and probably wouldn't understand anyway'.
mortonjag 2007-11-03 08:30:24
QUOTE(div @ Nov 2 2007, 11:28 PM) [snapback]352485[/snapback]
www.notverycleverareyou.com - try that one instead laugh.gif

Perhaps a liitle cleverer than you think Sieve Div-now here's one for you-

www.firstwashonweb.com
mortonjag 2007-11-03 09:04:27
QUOTE(steveoath @ Nov 3 2007, 08:04 AM) [snapback]352512[/snapback]
I don't see how CT will be treated as neutral given the presence of the Hamilton chairman on the referees panel.

I believe it's Mr Struthers you mean and he's the club secretary!

Unlike Mr Rae who at least retains a modicum of dignity, this chappie appears to have his own bebo.

Just type Scott Struthers into the browser bar, home in on the name-click- and this unmarried gentleman's exposee appears in shocking pink! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-03 09:54:10
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Nov 3 2007, 08:56 AM) [snapback]352521[/snapback]
I am not biased against anyone at the club as I think everyone deserves their chance, but I think it's quite easy to see that Russell is on a poor run of form at the moment. His first touch he usually loses the ball, poor positional sense as he gets caught offside more ofthen than not and has no speed (ok I know Temps ain't Linford Christie either!).

Leafy will rustle up a couple of goals pretty soon.
mortonjag 2007-11-03 10:50:06
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Nov 3 2007, 10:35 AM) [snapback]352570[/snapback]
What's Cappie saying about all this blink.gif

It's a purrfect chance fur him to star,and it seems his paws backing him.
mortonjag 2007-11-04 07:10:14
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Nov 3 2007, 12:13 PM) [snapback]352614[/snapback]
Does that make him a PAWNSTAR tongue.gif

More of a stripeogram artist I'd suggest.
mortonjag 2007-11-04 07:16:44
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Nov 3 2007, 08:56 AM) [snapback]352521[/snapback]
I am not biased against anyone at the club as I think everyone deserves their chance, but I think it's quite easy to see that Russell is on a poor run of form at the moment. His first touch he usually loses the ball, poor positional sense as he gets caught offside more ofthen than not and has no speed (ok I know Temps ain't Linford Christie either!).

Leafy scored an excellent goal yesterday, mainly down to his superb positional sense. Once the squad get more used to him, plenty more will come. The boy can't score if he doesn't get the ball.
mortonjag 2007-11-04 07:20:41 [quote name='TrumpingTon' date='Nov 3 2007, 04:38 PM' post='352671']
Bobby Linn finally gets on the scoresheet, although it pains me to say that it's against my own old home town Elgin
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Was THAT where you lost your marbles, Trumpet?
mortonjag 2007-11-04 07:28:46
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Nov 3 2007, 07:23 PM) [snapback]352709[/snapback]
As everyone else said on top 1st half but lets not forget Stirling are used to fighting back and probably were happy to only go in 1 down .
2nd half we started poorly and Stirling seemed to be piling on the pressure only a matter of time before they scored . Central midfield were getting walked over at this point .
The sending off seemed an act of stupidity as there was no real danger of us having possession in that area of the park . Stirling were no doubt settling for the usual point at this stage .
The trip on Harding was a clear penalty . Don't know why Spoonsy never took the spot kick . My mate beside me said he's missing that , and how right he was . Should we let substitutes take penaltys when their shooting is so bad at half time .
Special mention to Deano who hit a young fan behind the goal with a wayward strike and came over to check the lad was ok , well done Deano !! .

Was he just checking his hip pocket for identity in case an ambulance was required? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-04 07:34:38 The Monkey had £10 on Leafy to score the first goal-many bananas are his reward.
mortonjag 2007-11-04 07:53:19 Yesterday I didn't think anybody played particularly badly-some had quiet games-Jimbo and Spoonsy in particular, but at times we played some decent football, and Midge and Kev were exciting to watch.The truth is that David McGurn had very little to do, and made no mistakes (incidentally his 'boob' at Hamilton was the result of the wind, and a bad bounce on plastic).

So why did we not win it?

Two main reasons IMO-Alan Moore's astuteness, and our failure to sign the correct players closed season.

I'm just praying that DDFR has now taken this on board. If we'd only had a Derek McInnes in midfield in those last thirty minutes, Stirling would have gone home empty handed.
mortonjag 2007-11-04 08:09:54 My brother was in the home stand at Hamilton with some family friends and I spoke to him at the game yesterday for the first time in a week. Apparently just before Sanny's goal, his friends were saying that we had upped our game and were likely to score. When the ball went in they turned to my brother and shrugged-'told you'----no MENTION of an infringement, and apparently that was the general 'take' in that section of the stand-which had a GOOD view of the goal.

When the Hamilton players started 'havin' a go'-one of my brother's friends (who is an ex professional footballer) said-'I don't see the point in this-they'll just get into bother with the Ref'.

I thought DDFR's 'Shoogly Peg' programme comments were well thought out on this-he's had the balls to take on the 'might' of the SFA, and he deserves the unmitigated support of every true Morton fan.
mortonjag 2007-11-04 08:35:21
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Nov 3 2007, 09:04 PM) [snapback]352733[/snapback]
What an ugly bitch !

OK ya incipient Korsakoffian- what's your definition of beauty?
mortonjag 2007-11-04 08:40:22 I guess it IS rather odd when someone gets so excited about folk doing their jobs properly. Is this a national phenomenon, or just a peculiarity of the Morton fan?
mortonjag 2007-11-04 08:52:46 Kenny's got quite a good managerial record-even with the Pars, he got a Scottish Cup Final title against Cellic, yet the team's display in the last three of four weeks has been worse than abysmal.

OK, HE carries the can, and will undoubtedly go, (to better things I believe), but take yesterday's scenario. His players are not daft-they knew his job was on the line-it's obvious that for some reason he's lost the dressing room, rather than suddenly become a bad manager.


Funny old game!
mortonjag 2007-11-05 06:24:45
QUOTE(Atom Eyes @ Nov 4 2007, 10:47 AM) [snapback]352853[/snapback]
Mortonjag, as a reason for not doing well over the course of the season, I can see how you might blame the close-season transfer decisions, but as an excuse for not winning one particular match, this is completely spurious.

There are many reasons why we didn't win this match, but none of them are because of players we DON'T have. We have a group of players who were capable of taking 3 points from Stirling yesterday, so perhaps we should be looking to see what the issues might be with the team that was on the park and the way they played, rather than wistfully daydreaming about what might have been if only we had signed <insert any number of hypothetical examples>.

AE

Your name is so appropriate. Even the monkey could see that in the last half hour we allowed Stirling to take control, under the voluble direction of Moore and McNally.

JM has said it hmself repeatedly-we don't kill teams off, we 'come off the gas', and we're too easily mugged.

I indulge in many unusual pursuits which do not include 'wistful daydreaming'. Transfer window beckons and we still haven't got our seasoned midfield general, so let's hope it gets fixed once and for all.
mortonjag 2007-11-05 06:27:58
QUOTE(MORETEN @ Nov 4 2007, 11:48 AM) [snapback]352868[/snapback]
So exactly what relation are you to Dave Mc Gurn

And here's to you Mrs Robinson!
mortonjag 2007-11-05 06:36:00
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Nov 4 2007, 04:57 PM) [snapback]352973[/snapback]
This is a good thread rolleyes.gif

Jamie's STILL the only player I believe can take us to the next level. If EVER given a run in central midfield (it's seriously pissing me off now) he can take the team by the scruff of the neck. We've nobody else capable of doing that, imo.

Jamie's confidence seems pretty low right now-he goes on as a sub, and gets to take the penalty. If he'd netted, everybody would have been talking him up.

I saw it as a gamble which failed, but, as you say, his form will return-if not here, somewhere else.
mortonjag 2007-11-05 06:41:15 Oh-hokey, cokey, cokey.
mortonjag 2007-11-05 06:44:24
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Nov 4 2007, 11:07 PM) [snapback]353077[/snapback]
McGurn is simply not the answer. He has cost us 2 goals and ultimately 3 points in the last two games. He made a total tit of himself for the McCarthy goal at NDP, nearly cost us a goal in the first half against Stirling and was nowhere for the Stirling equaliser. Hopefully JM sees sense and puts Robinson back in goal until January and then sign an experiences keeper (and two defenders)

He didn't-I've explained elsewhere what happened-confirmed by Hamilton fans.
mortonjag 2007-11-05 06:48:20 Nice to see Mr Thomson making an arse of it while he's under scrutiny. Incidentally his Pishley buddy Brines also rated 5 on Saturday!
mortonjag 2007-11-05 06:52:49 Provan deserves a lot of credit for this-not many Hacks can make a living off 'old hat'!

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mortonjag 2007-11-05 06:55:29
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Nov 4 2007, 11:51 PM) [snapback]353096[/snapback]
I think seeing the pars in this mess is just wonderful

I don't think so at all-Dunfermline, like ourselves, are a provincial club with potential. If you'd said Gretna I'd have agreed.
mortonjag 2007-11-05 06:56:37
QUOTE(port-ton @ Nov 5 2007, 02:11 AM) [snapback]353103[/snapback]
did it seem that mcanespie was right footed? everytime he tried to cross the ball it looked like he was hitting it with his weaker foot. was strange to see someone whos main asset is their crossing be off their game so badly as he was.

sure he'll be back to normal next game.

He has a sore thumb.
mortonjag 2007-11-05 07:00:52
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Nov 5 2007, 05:35 AM) [snapback]353111[/snapback]
He has quite simply been our most consistant player so far. He is in very good form, so why not ?

Aye CLAYMORE C*CK,but Kev's not an 'it' player-a wee bit like bawheid in politics-doesn't matter how good the build up is-it's all about the final product.
Having said that, Kevin was immense on Saturday.
mortonjag 2007-11-05 07:03:37
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Nov 4 2007, 10:44 AM) [snapback]352850[/snapback]
Strange MJ that you seem to have a higher opinion of the Dunfermline's manager then our own, despite the fact we're currently above them in the league in our first season after promotion. rolleyes.gif

I didn't mention JM.
mortonjag 2007-11-05 07:14:35 Still plenty of hot hatches around and compared to the eighties they ARE fast.

The Renaut 5 turbo was a hairy wee beastie though!

I once had a limited edition supercharged VW Polo as a courtesy car-it was scarily fast but the handling and brakes were not on a par with the performance. Fiat Uno turbo was also a wee flying machine but felt like 'lead' to drive.

Best compromise in those days was probably the Peugeot 205 GTI
mortonjag 2007-11-05 07:18:27
QUOTE(axeman @ Nov 4 2007, 02:44 PM) [snapback]352930[/snapback]
I don't like vegetables, that's why I can't stand St Mirren. laugh.gif

Skunk steak'll be your treat then!
mortonjag 2007-11-05 07:24:17
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Nov 5 2007, 06:22 AM) [snapback]353112[/snapback]
And to hell with Jaggers. Who remembers Lawsons lemonade and their bottle labels featuring pictures of clyde steamers (boats, not drunks) ? I know cause I used to drink the stuff. American Cream Soda was memorably disgusting.

Lawson's cream soda (called ice cream soda by many), indeed used to float my boat Mr Edwards. Did you know that a favourite pastime WAS to pour a glass and carefully drop in a large dollop of ice cream-delicious!
mortonjag 2007-11-05 07:26:04
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Nov 4 2007, 08:55 PM) [snapback]353039[/snapback]
I love big dumplings.

Got your Valentine's card for Mr Thomson yet?
mortonjag 2007-11-05 08:41:03
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Nov 5 2007, 08:20 AM) [snapback]353136[/snapback]
Not a bad read. There is the startling revelation that players have been known to play table tennis in the buff! blink.gif

It's in the middle pull out section.

Which is often injured on the corner of the table during a frenzied rally?
mortonjag 2007-11-05 14:36:41
QUOTE(Stu-ton @ Nov 5 2007, 01:09 PM) [snapback]353220[/snapback]
I was talking to a few chaps who are on the commitee at troon juniors and commitee of my g/fs footie team and they asked him what happened at Hamilton, he said he never changed his mind on the day and he stood by his decision that it was a goal until he seen the video of it! He never changed his mind it was Thomson only who did!

And when did he 'see the video of it'?

Sounds like the SFA have had them in to watch Hamilton's Mickey Mouse Hollywood production.

Also sounds like it APPEARS to show an infringement, but there was NO infringement!

How can that happen I wonder? mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-05 14:42:22
QUOTE(Atom Eyes @ Nov 5 2007, 10:05 AM) [snapback]353156[/snapback]
I don't disagree with your analysis of what happened, nor do I disagree with the idea that a midfield general would be a good addition to the squad. All I'm saying is that you can't claim that one individual signing would have changed the outcome of one particular game.

AE

Are you saying that if we had had the influence of a seasoned player to calm the boys down,and keep the pressure on Stirling, it wouldn't have made a difference? That's what I'm saying, and that's what many were crying out for in the closed season.
mortonjag 2007-11-05 14:51:24
QUOTE(Youngsa @ Nov 5 2007, 11:47 AM) [snapback]353180[/snapback]
My source says Davie Irons has already been approached and is keen to leave Gretna

Is that the club of 'Living the Dream'?

Mortonjag took a fair wee bit of stick for daring to criticise Mr Mileson when the daft b*****d cheated us out of promotion with his crazy idea.

It cost us a full season, but at least it's nice to see his own fans turning on him.

In two or three seasons, I wonder if Gretna will still be in the SFL.
mortonjag 2007-11-05 14:56:11
QUOTE(Stu-ton @ Nov 5 2007, 01:14 PM) [snapback]353221[/snapback]
For the 1st time ever i think i am agreeing with largston here! I thought when he came on, on Sat he started to run at the defenders which we never really done before that! Jamie is a class player and should start instead of that dim whit Millar!!!

At Alloa Jamie was the 'big cheese'. He was allowed to play the way he plays best, and he was bloody potent coming through on runs from central midfield. Midge is a talented footballer, but not NEARLY so direct-always tends to drift wide one way or the other looking to lay off the final pass.
mortonjag 2007-11-05 15:00:42
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Nov 5 2007, 10:20 AM) [snapback]353159[/snapback]
I'm with you puggsy. Defence held back a lot in the second half and you could see the goal was coming. As for the scare in the first half, TBH I don't think McGurn had much of a choice. The defence were nowhere for the ball and he made a decision to come for it and try to put the striker off. Any goalie worth his salt knows that a precence coming out to challenge the striker is sometimes as off putting to the striker, as making the save that stops a certain goal. He also gave a good shout to the defender who kicked the ball off the line.
Fair performance from the cat if you ask me.

Correct-it worked out well for us. Davie HAD to narrow the angle or the whole goal would have been vulnerable. He banked on a having defender to his right and, if I'm not mistaken, Finlayson was perfectly placed to clear.
mortonjag 2007-11-05 15:09:24
QUOTE(ayrstorm @ Nov 5 2007, 03:03 PM) [snapback]353253[/snapback]
what happened stinks, but at same time it seems to be growing arms and legs on the internet: i heard from my contact, apparently the video shows, my mate heard, etc etc, etc, getting the picture? Internet wildfire.

All a bit like an internet wildfire before about a betting scandal sad.gif This one needs to be put to bed before it becomes a distraction to the board and the management and that ultimately gets to the players. Board and management should quickly kill this and focus on running the club better, and what it takes to secure us in div1.

But the Board and Management WILL 'put it to bed' when the SFA respond one way or another to their request for an enquiry.
mortonjag 2007-11-05 15:16:42
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Nov 5 2007, 10:38 AM) [snapback]353168[/snapback]
Dunno if it's really classed as a hot hatch (or an 80's motor as it was a 92 K plate) but I had a moondust silver Sapphire Cosworth 4x4. Had a stage 1 conversion (290bhp), stainless exhaust, 17's, leather Recaro interior and the loudest dump valve ever invented. Had some great times in that motor.

Selling that car was a mistake but all is well as I've decided to buy another one seeing as my bike insurance is buttons now.

That's cheating Boozie-you'd have to compare your Cossie with the Audi four wheel drives that were around in the early eighties. It was a remarkable motor mind you, even if it looked crap!
mortonjag 2007-11-05 15:21:53
MY SIGNATURE WAS RUBBISH-HERE'S MY NEW ONE
mortonjag 2007-11-05 15:38:39
QUOTE(stubaws @ Nov 5 2007, 03:31 PM) [snapback]353261[/snapback]
that shows u just how much he's done when he has played there tongue.gif seriously though, i think he's a player with particularly fragile confidence, doesn't take much for the wind to be taken out of sails which is unfortunate because when he is confident there's real talent there

I agree, and IMO that's just another reason why an 'old head' would be useful in the squad. Sanny's another player who had a huge confidence crisis, and there are two or three others who would benefit from a mentor on the pitch. Ryan Harding's a good example of a talented young footballer who would have come on in leaps and bounds beside an 'old stager' central defender.
mortonjag 2007-11-06 06:34:00 The video is essentially irrelevant-the goal was given and chalked off because of player pressure. THAT is what the SFA should be addressing, but as DDFR suggests, they will probably try to whitewash the whole episode on the basis of 'the correct decision was ultimately reached'.

IF they do, Gordon Smith might as well resign and write another book-this time a fairy story. I don't want to say too much, though, until the final outcome is made public.
mortonjag 2007-11-06 06:39:40
QUOTE(Atom Eyes @ Nov 5 2007, 05:13 PM) [snapback]353292[/snapback]
Maybe, maybe not. Maybe the seasoned player that we might have hypothetically signed in the summer would have been injured/suspended/off-form for the Stirling game. All I'm saying is, while I agree we need a seasoned midfielder, I think it's unfair to blame the lack of transfer activity for the outcome of ONE game.

I still think that, the need for a midfield general notwithstanding, we had the players out there on Saturday to take 3 points. That we didn't was a combination of bad luck (penalty miss, arguably) and bad organisation to respond adequately to Stirling's onslaught.

If Jamie had stuck his penalty away, we'd probably not be having this discussion.

AE

I think you're splitting hairs-you mention 'bad organisation' for example. IF we had knocked back the opportunity to sign the said midfield general last Friday, would you still say that that had made no difference?
mortonjag 2007-11-06 06:46:26
QUOTE(MORETEN @ Nov 5 2007, 07:43 PM) [snapback]353335[/snapback]
oooooh think I hit a nerve there.

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Far from it-I don't think Davie McGurn is perfect, and I can see that young Robinson has the makings of a very good goalie, but at the moment Davie is far more solid.
mortonjag 2007-11-06 06:56:01
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Nov 5 2007, 05:03 PM) [snapback]353288[/snapback]
JM mentioned it in the programme on Sat. Don't know what that means but it sounds bad. Perhaps MJ can enlighten us as to how bad that is.

It just means that instead of a straight crack across the bone which would heal quite quickly, the bone has broken along its length in a sort of corkscrew fashion, and that's more complicated. For an outfielder with with no piano playing ambitions, it wouldn't matter so much, but a goalie's hands are his livelihood, so they have to get it right.
mortonjag 2007-11-06 07:05:12
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Nov 5 2007, 04:38 PM) [snapback]353281[/snapback]
Bollocks Doc, it was a thing of beauty!

It was a bloody Sierra FFS-the Cavalier was miles ahead on looks-particularly the SRi!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-06 07:11:02 Nothing to beat porridge-made properly-oatmeal soaked overnight,and microwaved in a few minutes.It's the healthiest and cheapest breakfast cereal of all-NO EXCEPTIONS!!
mortonjag 2007-11-06 07:14:00
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Nov 6 2007, 05:17 AM) [snapback]353392[/snapback]
I had a vivid dream last night that Morton were playing Arsenal in the premiership at Cappielow.

Morton were near the bottom of the table and Arsenal were at the top so anything from the game would be a bonus from Morton's perspective.

Arsenal dominated possession and it was 1-0 to them at the interval when I left to go and watch the 2nd half from the back door of the Norseman ( In real life I have stood at that back door and I'm sure it's not possible to see the pitch )

Anyway , there I was , watching the 2nd half with a pint and Arsenal continued to have the upper hand. Whilst it was still only 1-0 though it was possible for us to sneak something on the break. I knew we'd need to take our chance(s) if and when it/they came about.

So Weatherson headed the ball from halfwayline to Chris Millar in the box who headed it back out to Derek Laing ( yes Derek Laing ) who then bulleted a header into the goal via the top right stansion a from the outside of the box. Three headers and the ball didnt touch the ground once.

I ran around the Norseman celebrating like a madman. There was only 3 minutes left and nothing else of notable interest happened until the final whistle.

What does it mean ?

Craig Thomson wasn't the ref.
mortonjag 2007-11-06 07:17:02
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Nov 5 2007, 06:47 PM) [snapback]353315[/snapback]
Perhaps not on this thread, though you have made you opinions of our manager well known on multiple other threads. rolleyes.gif

Hence the reason I thought it strange you think Kenny is a good manager, when they're below us in the league.

The other posters have given you plenty of opinions. Kenny had a good record before going to Dunfermline.
mortonjag 2007-11-06 09:07:27
QUOTE(ianton @ Nov 6 2007, 08:52 AM) [snapback]353421[/snapback]
speed is certainly not of the essence with them.maybe they are trying to do a splice job with said tape.

Ian, it doesn't matter what they do with the tape-it was shot from a distance on the blind side of Sanny's contact with the ball. I know of two Hamilton supporters who had a good view, and have confirmed to my brother (who was with them) that they saw nothing wrong with the goal.

As Alibi says-why can a Ref and assistant award a goal, then chalk it off at the whim of opposition players?
mortonjag 2007-11-06 11:38:39
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Nov 6 2007, 09:22 AM) [snapback]353426[/snapback]
I dont blame DDR for being totally pissed off with this carry on, and i sympathise with everyone else on the issue, but we all need to remember, we wont get a response from them besterds in Glasgow, why did they give them the name SFA dry.gif

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We won't know for sure until they tell us. Should somebody start a book on the favourite reasons given?....

2-5--'Because we say so.'

Evens--. 'We are satisfied the Referee took the correct decision'.

5-1. 'We regret the circumstances but stand by the Referee's decision'.

10-1 'Though we understand his explanation, the referee has been advised regarding the reversal of decisions, as they must remain final'

25-1 'Mr Thomson has been reprimanded for what we regard as an error of judgement'.

50-1 'Greenock Morton have been awarded a share of the points'.

100-1 'Greenock Morton have been awarded all three points'.

1000-1 Douglas Rae has been invited to become a Referee adviser at the Scottish Football Association'.

5000-1 'The skunk has been fired-he was always duff anyway'.
mortonjag 2007-11-06 11:41:13
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Nov 6 2007, 10:30 AM) [snapback]353436[/snapback]
Fecking brilliant. Guys a f*d.

Now, now Weegie-don't demean the humble f*d-they HAVE their uses.
mortonjag 2007-11-06 11:43:52
QUOTE(Mags @ Nov 6 2007, 10:06 AM) [snapback]353430[/snapback]
Stop being a smart arse...you know exactly what the guy means.
Mags.

If somebody had made that one's arse smart a few years back he'd probably be OK.
mortonjag 2007-11-06 11:53:32
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Nov 6 2007, 10:44 AM) [snapback]353440[/snapback]
Cheers mate. What's the expected healing time for that type of injury?

It's specialist territory Weegie-he may have required/require some surgery-at a rough guess he could be out for twice as long as initially predicted, but it varies so much with the degree of severity.
mortonjag 2007-11-06 11:56:42
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Nov 6 2007, 11:42 AM) [snapback]353451[/snapback]
laugh.gif So what's his particular use then Obi one?

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Did you HAVE to ask that-he's a bloody doctor in his day job! ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-06 11:58:36
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Nov 6 2007, 11:35 AM) [snapback]353448[/snapback]

Hmm-so they HAVE sacked him-I wonder what the reason is?
mortonjag 2007-11-06 12:00:59
QUOTE(Alibi @ Nov 6 2007, 08:46 AM) [snapback]353417[/snapback]
The Sierra Cosworth was uninsurable due to the amount of thefts and the ease with which they could be pinched. The Audi Quattros were far better built but altogether more upmarket.

The Golf VR6 was a great engine in a rather dull car - the Mk 3 Golf wasn't nearly as good as its predecessors and wasn't even terribly reliable. There is a 3.2 litre Golf available in the current range, called the R32 I think, with 4 wheel drive. Fast, but not as good as a 2.0 GTI due to the extra weight.

In the early 90s I had a VW Corrado G60, a coupe based on a golf Mk 2 floorpan, with a 1.8 supercharged engine, 160bhp and pulled like a steam train from idling speed. Had a radical spiral supercharger called a G-lader, dropped as the superchargers tended to wear out after about 100k. Great motor, had a spolier that rose up above 45mph (was above 70mph on the continent but changed for here as it was a visual indication of whether or not you were breaking the speed limit). I always thought that was one of the most overlooked cars of that era. Far better than any Ford.

It was a great car but never seemed to compete with the lesser Calibra in this country.
mortonjag 2007-11-06 12:10:33
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Nov 6 2007, 11:12 AM) [snapback]353445[/snapback]
I love home made tablet but have never attempted to make it. Can you post the recipe? I made a huge pot of tattie soup last night with a great big bit of boiling beef. I would never blow my own trumpet about my soup, as to me it will never be like my mums', but when the word is out folks do come round with their containers a beggin. smile.gif

Never thought of soaking porridge overnight to micro wave in the morning that's a good idea. Has to be with salt and water though.

That's how my Mum always made it LL-and it HAS to be with oatmeal-rolled oats are fine, but quite a bit of nutrition is lost in the process.

Soak overnight in cold water-quantities are usually on the packet, and microwave on 'high' for about two to three minutes at a time, (depending on number of servings, cooking time can vary quite a lot) whisking vigorously at each interval. Just as its about to boil, you'll see it rise with the steam, and that's it done. Final brisk whisk, and serve to taste. Sugar's OK if you're fit, need calories, and look after your teeth. Salt only recommended sparingly!
mortonjag 2007-11-07 07:03:02
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Nov 6 2007, 07:06 PM) [snapback]353591[/snapback]
That'll certainly put a shine on yer s***e.

Not QUITE correct CHC-in terms of insoluble fibre, there are other bran rich cereals which will actually bulk up the jobbies more than yer parritch, but oatmeal is the all round health winner because of the cholesterol lowering properties of its insoluble fibre, and its excellent poly/mono unsaturated to saturated fat profile.



'Madam,' exclaimed Dr Samuel Johnson, on tasting the crofter's porridge,'this is only fit for pigs'!

'Then have some more Sir', she retorted.
mortonjag 2007-11-07 07:06:35 Are insects insectous or do they behave insects?
mortonjag 2007-11-07 07:13:00 IAN Black, the author and playwright, has a new book out for Christmas, titled, immodestly enough, The Almost Completely Ultimate Weegie Jokebook. It has a chapter on Glasgow self-help books which include:
# One for the Christians in Possil: God Loves You and Will Protect You, But Carry a Big Stick with a Nail In It Anyway
# The Joy of Six-Packs.

# Lowering Your Sexual Self-Esteem.

# Confidence, Self-Esteem and Assertiveness: They Are Completely Beyond You.

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# Family Relationships: Dream On.

# Minimising Your Potential.

# Sexual Relationships and Why You Will Never Have One.

# Women's Issues: Who Cares?

# Depression: How to Achieve It. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-07 07:49:59
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Nov 7 2007, 07:24 AM) [snapback]353683[/snapback]
spoke at length with Mssr Black on several occasions at Scotland games.
Nice guy, alhough possibly the biggest free loader I have ever met!

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So he has the potential to become a VERY nice guy!
mortonjag 2007-11-07 07:59:21
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Nov 7 2007, 07:11 AM) [snapback]353680[/snapback]
I like to put salt on my porridge or the very rare occasions that I have it ( porridge ) , would this render my porridge unhealthy or will I still get the benefits ?

Salt (sodium choride), is essential in the diet, but in excess causes several probems, and in particular can cause high blood pressure over the longer term. So many of today's processed and convenience foods contain needless amounts of salt and sugar-branded breakfast cereals are a good example of this. The general rule is to use salt moderately in cooking, but not to add it to food. I'd suggest that a sensible quantity of salt in your porridge is entirely harmless.
mortonjag 2007-11-07 08:09:13 I was pretty pissed off a couple of weeks back. I don't normally bother the 'polis', and fortunately they don't seem interested in me, but I saw this suspicious looking van outside the flats, with a couple of very dodgy looking yobbos in it-I won't bore you with the details, but -trying to be a good citizen-I 'phoned 'Crimestoppers'.

To cut a long story short, I EVENTUALLY got to talk to some not very bright young woman in bloody ABERDEEN of all places. She slowly and carefully took all MY details, then announced-'Well that's it logged on our database, and if you want anything done about it 'phone your local police station'. huh.gif

So I didn't bother, and if some old dear's hoose got done, don't blame me either.
mortonjag 2007-11-07 08:13:51
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Nov 7 2007, 07:18 AM) [snapback]353682[/snapback]
Hello Sanityclause , I finally got round to reading that thread on the Sheffield forum , the mind boggles as to why you read that ( the sheffield forum ) but I won't pry into your business.

It seems from reading that thread that Alpine do indeed no longer exist as people there were fondly reminicing about it. It was only very recently that I suddenly realised I hadn't seen Alpine for a while and people there are talking about it as if it were a 1970's phenomenon.

Can anyone confirm the latest situation with Alpine. Do they still operate or not ?

I've done some research for you-Alpine are no more-though there's Alpine beverages in Australia!!
mortonjag 2007-11-07 08:22:34 Mr Mileson, the awful nice 'born again Christian', 'man next door' has a long history of getting what he wants in the end.

Working for him appears ultimately to be drinking from a poisoned chalice.

Lovely to see his crazy Gretna dream turn to nightmare though! wink.gif

mortonjag 2007-11-07 08:56:37
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Nov 7 2007, 08:32 AM) [snapback]353690[/snapback]
The Sinclair C5, now that's what I call a classy, head turning set of wheels. And if we're talking hot, what about the Reliant Robin Turbo?

Do you also remember the 'Bond Bug' and yon wierd Messerschmit thing Mr E? The Robin was actually quite a practical wee beast if used sensibly.
mortonjag 2007-11-07 08:59:52
QUOTE(se65an @ Nov 7 2007, 08:44 AM) [snapback]353693[/snapback]
If you were a teenager in the 80's by heck you could never have afforded a RS500., it wasn't so much a hot hatch more a hot hot even hotter price. tongue.gif

I remember the rs2000's, but even more popular was the Ford Capri, and what a crap car it was rolleyes.gif

I bought the capri's replacement a Ford Probe, and as sports cars go, it was a pile of pish, funny enough it was nicked from the High Street in Paisley, £15k I paid for it, car was nicked 3months after I got it, insurance company paid out £9k...

My dream car in the seventies was the Lotus Elan, and I eventually managed to get one-an unbelievable experience, but will never forget being beaten hands down on the Motorway by a Jag V!2-those cars had immense power and torque but couldn't live with the Lotus on twisty roads.
mortonjag 2007-11-07 14:45:04
QUOTE(monyou @ Nov 7 2007, 12:48 PM) [snapback]353719[/snapback]
And that was achieved by buying players from higher leagues and who were prepared to take the drop down (though not in wages).

It depends how deep his pockets are. If, as seems likely, they get relegated, will the desire still be there to "do it all again"?

I think the truth has already hit his back pocket. Whatever happens, he's sure to have some excuse like his father dying last year, his mother being ill, or his favourite llama having leukaemia.
mortonjag 2007-11-07 14:47:43
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Nov 7 2007, 02:06 PM) [snapback]353731[/snapback]
BTW we haven't won at Palmerston since I was 3... just some positive news for those planning to travel...

FFS boy-four years without a victory-we must attempt to redress that, but on this occasion I see a draw at 2-2. (Sponsy and Leafy).
mortonjag 2007-11-07 14:53:29
QUOTE(Alibi @ Nov 7 2007, 10:45 AM) [snapback]353703[/snapback]
The original Mazda MX5 (with the pop-up headlights) was a copy of the 60s Lotus Elan - lightweight, simple, rear wheel drive and reliable (which the Lotus wasn't). The original Elan was a great car in theory but it was atrociously unreliable even at a time when most cars needed serviced every 3000 miles and constant attention on a weekly basis. My MG Midget was supposed to have its front wishbone nipples greased every 1000 miles - nowadays you'd only see that happening in a strip club...

Modern cars are far better quality and easy to own - even the worst cars nowadays are streets ahed of the 60s stuff for durability.

Alibi, I think you'll find that a lot of the reported 'unreliability' of the original Lotuses, was down to the fibre glass body, rather than the actual mechanicals which were pretty good. Earthing problems, rattles and squeaks, water ingress etc.,rather than 'always needing serviced'.
mortonjag 2007-11-07 14:59:09
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Nov 7 2007, 02:45 PM) [snapback]353737[/snapback]
You can save yourself £100.45 annually by not buying the Greenock Telegraph. smile.gif

....and about £ 50 per year by eating one slice of buttered bread less per day!--to say nothing of losing over ONE STONE in weight (all other factors remaining static).
mortonjag 2007-11-07 15:30:34
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Nov 7 2007, 03:20 PM) [snapback]353744[/snapback]
Fair point, but that's only half a sandwich then. Are you advocating that I only have one sandwich for my lunch instead of two, thereby resulting in less nutrients which then would potentially result in tiredness and a loss of concentration. Work results then fall and my boss gets on my back.

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I don't know your personal circumstances Weegie, but it's well documented that obesity tends to have an (slightly tenuous) association with sloth.

Instead of that second sandwich, I'd recommend that you get your hands on a nice juicy pear-that does wonders for the constitution.
mortonjag 2007-11-07 15:38:39
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Nov 7 2007, 12:07 PM) [snapback]353712[/snapback]
A - Anthrax
B - Bad Religion
C - Coheed and Cambria
D - Dropkick Murphy's
E - Edguy
F - Faith No More
G - Goldfinger
H - Hayseed Dixie
I - In Flames
J - Johnny Cash
K - Killswitch Engage
L- Less Than Jake
M - Me First and the Gimme Gimmes
N - Nine Inch Nails
O - Offsprinf
P - Pickled Dick
Q - Queen? huh.gif
R - R.E.M
S - Soilwork
T - Tool
U -
V - The Vandals
W -
X -
Y -
Z - Zebrahead

Cannibalism seems very popular at the moment Thrax.
mortonjag 2007-11-07 15:43:32
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Nov 7 2007, 03:37 PM) [snapback]353747[/snapback]
That's sound good, but I don't think my female colleague next to me would be to thrilled tongue.gif

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Nothing ventured, nothing gained Weegie-you could even let her share your banana every so often if you went down the fruitarian path.
mortonjag 2007-11-07 15:46:37
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Nov 7 2007, 03:40 PM) [snapback]353749[/snapback]
2-0 Spoonsy with the first and Sanny comes of the bench to bury a thunderous header from 2 yards. The crowd goes wild, Andy M does a Peter Martin on the webcast and blows my speakers.

...and the Hamilton video camera mysteriously goes up in smoke at that very moment.
mortonjag 2007-11-07 15:50:06
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Nov 7 2007, 03:45 PM) [snapback]353752[/snapback]
The lawyers I use in Glasgow just happen to be the employers of Craig Thomson. I have just had the pleasure of passing on some of the recent comments from Morton fans to some of his colleagues. I did not go to the length of saying that he is a cheat and a liar, just that he is sure of a warm welcome the next time he visits Cappielow! Not that it matters but I am assured that he is a decent enough guy.

A man's conscience vanishes when he becomes obsessed with his whistle.
mortonjag 2007-11-07 16:01:59
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Nov 7 2007, 03:50 PM) [snapback]353757[/snapback]
Could also be really bold and share my plums.

I have often shared my prunes- the power packed in those little dried fruits can be astonishing.
mortonjag 2007-11-07 16:06:13
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Nov 7 2007, 03:51 PM) [snapback]353758[/snapback]
That's some camera if it can see a game over 100 miles away.

Not only can it see afar Weegie, it can generate its own pictures.
mortonjag 2007-11-07 16:11:43
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Nov 7 2007, 04:09 PM) [snapback]353767[/snapback]
A picture tells a thousand words...

Only the Accies one is exceptionally talented at circumlocution.

Lies, damned lies, and the NDP camera!
mortonjag 2007-11-07 16:14:15
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Nov 7 2007, 04:03 PM) [snapback]353765[/snapback]
...Enough laugh.gif

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Ageism rears it's ugly little head!
mortonjag 2007-11-07 16:21:52
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Nov 7 2007, 04:19 PM) [snapback]353775[/snapback]
Certain refs can generate there own lies.

There's a theory that if you tell a lie often enough, you end up believing it's true!
mortonjag 2007-11-07 16:25:11
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Nov 7 2007, 04:18 PM) [snapback]353774[/snapback]
As long as they don't result in ending up as currants then your ok MJ.

Currants always makes me think of Paisley -it's full of them.
mortonjag 2007-11-07 16:35:54
QUOTE(Rossco @ Nov 7 2007, 04:26 PM) [snapback]353779[/snapback]
Show your working

35p * 6 days a week = £2.10

2.10 * 52weeks a year = £109.20

£109.20 - £100.45 = £8.75/26 = approx 35p, so maybe he buys a Tilly every other week!
mortonjag 2007-11-08 06:01:31
QUOTE(Magic Mathie @ Nov 7 2007, 05:17 PM) [snapback]353783[/snapback]
Ceteris Parabus...couldn't resist - sorry!

Don't apologise MM, it's lovely to see evidence of a little classical knowledge on our 'rag'. Nil desperandum!

PER ARDUA AD ESPEELLUM
mortonjag 2007-11-08 06:04:05
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Nov 7 2007, 06:51 PM) [snapback]353794[/snapback]
Lotus Elans and Mazda MX5s? I didn't know you two were hairdressers.

laugh.gif I've made many a person's hair curl Boozie!
mortonjag 2007-11-08 06:06:21
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Nov 7 2007, 07:16 PM) [snapback]353798[/snapback]
Swarm for the time of year, innit?

The termiture is rather high.
mortonjag 2007-11-08 06:11:35 Hmm!

Something decidedly pathological about that coarse tremor-may just be that he desperately needs a wee hauf, but I couldn't be certain.
mortonjag 2007-11-08 06:21:02 MARBELLATON-another who's now only a year away from becoming a 'big boy'!

For the real oldies, Clement Atlee left as you arrived.

mortonjag 2007-11-08 06:28:22 Rowan was supposed to be holding a press conference yesterday, but I've seen nothing so far.
mortonjag 2007-11-08 07:29:14
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Nov 8 2007, 07:19 AM) [snapback]353882[/snapback]
Thank you. This year I will mostly be going off the rails.................!

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mortonjag 2007-11-08 07:42:30 Here's an interesting wee excerpt from an artice on 'lawyer referees'.


Aside from the matches themselves, refereeing demands considerable preparation time, both in terms of fitness training and examining videos of team's tactics.

Pierluigi Collina (by common consent the world's best referee) extols the benefits of studying the tactics of teams, looking at the formations and styles of play adopted, an approach Thomson apes.

But in legal parlance, isn't there a danger of prejudicing the case by identifying likely culprits through earlier video evidence?

“That is a danger you can fall into, admits Thomson. “You can only go on what you see on the day, but its good to be armed with the information
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So Mr Thomson states 'You can only go on what you see on the day'!! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-08 10:10:05 laugh.gif

I think JM's priceless!
mortonjag 2007-11-08 10:12:28 Gross misconduct is a very serious charge-he obviously intends to take Mileson to a Tribunal.
mortonjag 2007-11-08 10:16:41
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Nov 8 2007, 08:27 AM) [snapback]353889[/snapback]
Last two are beezers...

But anyway, enough of this apiary-ing around, and get the thread back on topic or you'll be on your......bike....

That's a pollen!
mortonjag 2007-11-08 10:18:38
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Nov 8 2007, 09:21 AM) [snapback]353901[/snapback]
Jag, I wouldn't buy that rag if you paid for it

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We don't get it up here, so I can easily resist the temptation!
mortonjag 2007-11-08 10:22:43
QUOTE(Alibi @ Nov 8 2007, 10:05 AM) [snapback]353909[/snapback]
A despicable wee man. Incidentally has anyone noticed that Cairns has been moonlighting as Hiro, the Japanese character in "Heroes"? The resemblance is uncanny... Except that Cairns doesn't have any superpowers - in fact he doesn't have any powers at all as he has to be operated by Gordon Brown or Douglas Alexander sticking a hand up his backside (which rumour suggests Cairns is quite fond of (allegedly)).

Cairns is doing his best to undermine anything the SNP government tries to do. Any failures which have been inherited from the LabLib predecessors are blamed on the SNP, and any successes by the SNP government are claimed for the previous administration. That, together with his support for the subtle squeeze on the finances of the Scottish Government which is taking place (just adjust the "baseline" and then claim that a cut is actually an increase) shows Cairns up for the disgusting little Quisling turd that he is.

I would love to see Cairns lose his seat at the next election.

...as he sings 'The hippy hippy shake'.
mortonjag 2007-11-08 14:12:32
QUOTE(nach0king @ Nov 8 2007, 11:28 AM) [snapback]353937[/snapback]
I think he's been misquoted there. What he meant to say is "you can only go on what the linesman didn't see on the day, providing you're bullied into it."

See these journalists and their dodgy quoting rolleyes.gif

Are you suggesting that a Champions League quality protege of Mr Collina would allow himself to be 'BULLIED'?

I'd have thought 'convinced' might have been a tad more genteel! ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-08 14:14:24
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Nov 8 2007, 11:53 AM) [snapback]353944[/snapback]
I'm currently in the middle of taking my ex employer to a tribunal and it's taking f***ing ages!

Gretna might be in the liquidiser by the time it's due to be heard!
mortonjag 2007-11-08 14:27:27
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Nov 8 2007, 01:46 PM) [snapback]353982[/snapback]
Crispy Morton roll, plenty of butter ( salted ) and salt n vinegar crisps.
A roll and pie wouldnt go a miss either.
Checks out for a Heart Attack ph34r.gif

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Spot on Gibby-just about as unhealthy a combination snack as you could get, and I reckon damned near 500 calories a shot too!

Wholemeal roll thinly spread with olive marge, and filled with a tuna mix (1 can of tuna in spring water/level tablespoonful of low calorie salad cream/ground black pepper,will fill three rolls.

Far more substantial, less than half the calories, and good for the jobbies too.
mortonjag 2007-11-08 14:31:29
QUOTE(Alibi @ Nov 8 2007, 01:51 PM) [snapback]353983[/snapback]
The father of one of my friends had an Elan, and it was a bit of a lemon - even the silver paint on the electric window switches flaked off in razor sharp pieces.

However as you say the fibreglass body meant electrical earthing problems, and throw in that the components for the electrics were made by Joe Lucas, the "Prince of Darkness" as he was known in the USA, and you have a car that is not the most reliable.

Hairdressers? Most MX5s seem to be driven by women as far as I can tell. But don't knock it, it's a cracking wee car to drive if you like good handling. Next summer though, I'm going to sell it and get a Caterham 7. No hairdressers or girls in one of those.

You'll never get the insurance for a Caterham (really a Lotus anyway) unless your Dad pays for it-most 21 year old girls can't even insure one of those mundane wee Jap sports cars you mention!
mortonjag 2007-11-08 15:04:02
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Nov 8 2007, 02:41 PM) [snapback]353996[/snapback]
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I'll stick to my chips and donner meat for school dinner and then a pot noodle, mebbes a couple of bowls of cereal, then my tea, then another bowl of cereal, then some crisps (Beef Hulas or Salt 'n' Vinegar Walkers).

I'm still only 9 and a half stone for some reason.. and my jobbies are fine smile.gif

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Jobbies can be a bit like people HH-just because they move well and look handsome is no guarantee of inner integrity.

Come to think of it, people can be a bit like jobbies too. I won't elaborate. Suffice to say that the archetypal jobby may be described as the 'Thomson Turd'.
mortonjag 2007-11-09 06:49:13
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 8 2007, 05:43 PM) [snapback]354060[/snapback]
Right you less of that, you've been warned

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mortonjag 2007-11-09 06:51:05
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Nov 8 2007, 06:26 PM) [snapback]354069[/snapback]
Sanny's got a nice bodeeee!! laugh.gif

...with Mach2 telescopic arms.
mortonjag 2007-11-09 06:59:44
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Nov 4 2007, 02:14 PM) [snapback]352920[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDSeems Sanny's been visiting big Marv's shop on Sundays.
mortonjag 2007-11-09 07:02:50
QUOTE(Alibi @ Nov 5 2007, 01:41 PM) [snapback]353230[/snapback]
...is being sponsored by my company. Hope it brings us luck. If not, I'll ask for my money back.

I haven't seen a match ball burst in years. Do you remember it used to happen regularly with the old 'Bladders'?
mortonjag 2007-11-09 07:05:27
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Nov 9 2007, 07:02 AM) [snapback]354173[/snapback]
I haven't seen a match ball burst in years. Do you remember it used to happen regularly with the old 'Bladders'?

Cue for Mr Thomson-...'after consulting several sources I am satisfied I reached the correct decision. The ball only burst 3 milliseconds AFTER it had crossed the line. The St Mirren goal was valid'.
mortonjag 2007-11-09 07:13:42
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ Nov 8 2007, 11:02 PM) [snapback]354146[/snapback]
Alexander will win his tribunal and will basically end up owning not just Gretna but Mileson!

JB.

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I wish!!!

Tribunals have a upper limit on payouts, but if he does win, he may perhaps pursue a private defamation suit. That could prove very interesting indeed, especially as by that time Gretna will have been relegated, and Pony Tail may have f*cked off back under his stone.
mortonjag 2007-11-09 07:18:07
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Nov 8 2007, 08:37 PM) [snapback]354104[/snapback]
The Lotus Carlton was one of the best cars ever made in my opinion. It didn't have the appeal of the Cossie but, as much as it pains me to say it, it was a better car.

It looked mean and purposeful, whereas the Cossie was vaguely reminiscent of a souped up seagull.
mortonjag 2007-11-09 07:20:46
QUOTE(port-ton @ Nov 8 2007, 10:21 PM) [snapback]354137[/snapback]
that was the worst pun ever dry.gif tongue.gif

he'll still be bee sting into them!
mortonjag 2007-11-09 07:24:17
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Nov 9 2007, 07:11 AM) [snapback]354175[/snapback]
What does the Sunday Post say about it? Their predictions are usually reliable. laugh.gif

'Thomson was innocent'? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-09 07:38:54 You have to admire the man's 'brass neck'. For those who don't understand, a Roman Catholic cannot be Prime Minister of Britain-something to do with wee Betty being boss of the English Church mafia I gather, so the bold BLIAR couldn't be a TiM and PM at one and the same time.

Now that Cherie's milked every last ounce out of that wee charade, the good little hubby's clearly been instructed to go for Pope next. Forget about little issues like ordination and celibacy-if you have the correct connections anything can be achieved! wink.gif


Now I've no doubt he'll want to be known as Pope Anthony 1, but in view of the slightly bad press he got in one or two Iraqi tabloid 'rags' maybe he should opt for the latest 'Innocent'. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-09 08:02:49
QUOTE(Youngsa @ Nov 9 2007, 07:50 AM) [snapback]354188[/snapback]
Thought he would have had enough of people 'kissing his ring' over the last ten years to last a lifetime biggrin.gif

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mortonjag 2007-11-09 08:08:39
QUOTE(se65an @ Nov 9 2007, 07:50 AM) [snapback]354187[/snapback]
BUT 100 times better than a Ford Capri!!

Am sure they brought out a 2.8ltr Capri, that being the only one worth its salt!

Nope Sean-- the original 'fast' capris were 3l, but later modified to a 2.8i version. 3 litre capris were well known as Polis cars in the early 70's-they could be spotted because they had a 'bonnet bulge' to accommodate the carbs, and they were not particulary slow either!!
mortonjag 2007-11-09 08:17:10
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 9 2007, 07:20 AM) [snapback]354178[/snapback]
I couldn't find glasses that wouldn't damage my eyyes so wore them instead.

never heard of Specsavers? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-09 09:02:34
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Nov 9 2007, 08:40 AM) [snapback]354195[/snapback]
Are you sure about this MJ? I'm sure the law that said you couldn't be a catholic was abolished a long time ago

Technically there is nothing to stop a Roman Catholic becoming P.M. There is no LAW forbidding it-so why has it never happened?

Quite simply because Lizzie is head of the C of E,and it's never been 'the done thing' to have your PM answering to yourself and Rome simultaneously.




mortonjag 2007-11-09 09:11:02
QUOTE(se65an @ Nov 9 2007, 09:02 AM) [snapback]354201[/snapback]
Can't say I ever really remember a fast Ford(UK)

Though I liked the XR's I knew they were not that fast. For some reason I bought a VX Cavalier SRi, now that moved(well compared to any Ford).

138mph on the Stirling straights, looks in the mirror and a car is approaching...woooshhhh, A VX Cavalier GSXi, must have been doing 155+mph

I bought a new Ford Probe once, 2ltr and what a pish slow car that was.

The (very) limited production GT 40 mark 111 was an extremey fast beastie, but Ford never really took much interest in competitive road cars for the British market. The early RS Escorts were quite fast in their time mind you, and famously won the Mexico rally.
mortonjag 2007-11-09 09:13:47
QUOTE(se65an @ Nov 9 2007, 09:05 AM) [snapback]354203[/snapback]
Now the memory cells kick in.
It was changed years ago, but as you say, for whatever reason, no catholic has ever been PM since.

I wonder if Liz is a bigot after all

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I'm sure bigotry is low down on her list of sins. Don't do as I do-do as I say. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-09 09:45:56
QUOTE(se65an @ Nov 9 2007, 09:19 AM) [snapback]354207[/snapback]
Ah the RS Escorts, away back in the 70's. Never been in one, but I do remember then in the rally's on TV(kinda)

GT 40.. na lost me, canny mind em.

Anyway nothing bet my Honda MT5, 49cc power house it was!! Unresticted, by my own evil means, am sure I topped 42mph just past Branchton Station one day. Not bad for a bike with a top speed of 30mph tongue.gif

My first bike was a Honda 90-four stroke-a great wee machine. I used to strip it down and build it up in the wash house, much to my Mum's displeasure.

The GT 40 was essentially a racing car which won Le Mans, but they produced a limited number of road going cars-only the rich and famous ever had one mind you!
mortonjag 2007-11-09 09:47:49
QUOTE(se65an @ Nov 9 2007, 09:20 AM) [snapback]354208[/snapback]
OK, I'll start drinking at 7am? tongue.gif

There's no good or bad time to drink-it's just how much and how often that matters!
mortonjag 2007-11-09 09:51:05
QUOTE(rex manning @ Nov 9 2007, 09:30 AM) [snapback]354210[/snapback]
It always does this!! it pretends it's gonna be brilliant, then the snow f@cks off til about May and i only get to go to Glen Coe about 4 times. Scotlands sh1t.

It's not Scotland that's s*** RM it's the new Scottish weather. When I was a boy we ALWAYS got plenty of snow in winter,and nobody dreamed of skiing here!!!
mortonjag 2007-11-09 10:20:40
QUOTE(monyou @ Nov 9 2007, 10:00 AM) [snapback]354218[/snapback]
Correct. I remember when a new sledge was always on the Xmas wish list.

Would need to be some bloody size of sledge now mind.....

Everybody dreamed of a 'Flexy Flier'-shiny metal runners and a steering bar-but most of us made our own!
mortonjag 2007-11-09 10:22:37
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Nov 9 2007, 10:07 AM) [snapback]354222[/snapback]
Wasps the matter with you?

I just can't bee have myself.
mortonjag 2007-11-09 10:41:16
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Nov 9 2007, 10:36 AM) [snapback]354227[/snapback]
I can beeleive that.

Got a row last night-she said I'd nectar best pal on the QT

Wood eye?
mortonjag 2007-11-09 11:50:49
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Nov 9 2007, 10:54 AM) [snapback]354232[/snapback]
Did you have to hummbly apologise, or did you tell her to buzz off.

Och she was droning on after I went to bed-I'm sure I spider combing through my papers but I'm too fly for her.
mortonjag 2007-11-09 11:53:46
QUOTE(port-ton @ Nov 9 2007, 11:46 AM) [snapback]354245[/snapback]
mortonjag in not boring us with details shocker ohmy.gif tongue.gif

That was a precis-would you like the full story? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-09 12:03:24
QUOTE(Edinton @ Nov 9 2007, 11:28 AM) [snapback]354240[/snapback]
Friday

Don't be silly, it wasn't a capital 'f'.

I thought he was referring to one of ThornTON's aunts

'Felicity' sprung to mind, but she doesn't fit, so I'm plumping for ThornTON's Aunt Froggy.
mortonjag 2007-11-09 12:05:26
QUOTE(Rule Britannia @ Nov 9 2007, 11:11 AM) [snapback]354237[/snapback]
Colkitto will probably blame the union for the weather and once we are independant we can choose our own weather.

The English will steal our snow and sell it to the Eskimos.
mortonjag 2007-11-09 12:08:21
QUOTE(Welling Ton @ Nov 9 2007, 11:59 AM) [snapback]354249[/snapback]
Who would want to be prime minister anyway? catholic or not!!! wacko.gif

Wendy Alexander!
mortonjag 2007-11-09 12:09:59
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Nov 9 2007, 12:03 PM) [snapback]354251[/snapback]
Naw it disnae.

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI find ORG slightly offensive TBH.
mortonjag 2007-11-09 12:13:15
QUOTE(monyou @ Nov 9 2007, 12:08 PM) [snapback]354256[/snapback]
Enid Blyton's Famous Five had an Aunt F***y.
Mind you one of them was called D*ck, George was actually a girl and they had a dug called Tim.
I'm going to leave it there thanks.....

JK Rowling can't hold a candle to Enid Blyton--and if you want some lovely non PC expressions, dig out one of the early Agatha Christie novels! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-09 12:16:49
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Nov 9 2007, 12:06 PM) [snapback]354254[/snapback]
According to Inverclyde now, big temps is out with the Flu.

At least it's not a broken shoulder hand.
mortonjag 2007-11-09 12:53:53
QUOTE(piehutt @ Nov 9 2007, 12:44 PM) [snapback]354264[/snapback]
I think this rule has been changed, funnilly enough under Blair. About the same time they chanegd the laws allowing monarchs to marry people of other faiths, and monarchs to be of other faiths.

If it did come to it and it looked like the PM would be a non protestant I'm sure they'd rush through some laws to allow it.

Aye but when will Bliar become Pope?
mortonjag 2007-11-09 12:55:50
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Nov 9 2007, 12:53 PM) [snapback]354267[/snapback]
TWGP made a c*** of it me thinks.

chip?
mortonjag 2007-11-09 13:03:46
QUOTE(piehutt @ Nov 9 2007, 12:56 PM) [snapback]354272[/snapback]
eh, never. I think you are making up things in your head there.

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Why else would an evil, sleekit conniving liar want to officially become a Catholic-Cherie wants to be the first Pope's wife-I feel it in my bones-she'll have the Vatican moved piece by piece to Lunding, so that she can still shoplift in Harrods.
mortonjag 2007-11-09 13:09:00
QUOTE(piehutt @ Nov 9 2007, 01:04 PM) [snapback]354275[/snapback]
I actually think we will see a bit of snow this winter.

Usually for most of the winter it's well below zero and 'too cold' to snow, as my mum used to say.

However with a bit of global warming I think the average temp will creep up to more 'snowy' temperatures.

Perhaps we will be able to bid for the Winter Olympics in a few years as continental europe becomes too hot for skiing.

It wasn't well below zero much last winter-anyway is above zero snow not called 'rain'?
mortonjag 2007-11-09 13:14:21
QUOTE(capello @ Nov 9 2007, 12:45 PM) [snapback]354265[/snapback]
Well done Glasgow and the folk who made the bid worthwhile!!
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Is Scotland one of the Nations of the British Commonwealth?

Something of a dual morality about those days, what with a Nationalist Government and Glesca courting those British games!

Will Bawheid be at the official opening beaming benignly at Lizzie?
mortonjag 2007-11-09 13:23:23
QUOTE(piehutt @ Nov 9 2007, 01:11 PM) [snapback]354282[/snapback]
You spot the word 'usually' there. Meaning frequently or often, however doesn't mean each and every time.

Now, now Prof-just when we were getting on better-I'm talking about the last ten years or so. Why do you think de-icer's always on offer in the shops those days.? They can't get rid of the bloody stuff!

Our winters have become extremely temperate, so much so that when we DO get an inch of snow on the roads there's mass hysteria, with Renault Meganes and Peugeot 207's abandoned right left and centre, schools closed, and insurance companies knocking back flooding claims as 'Acts of God'.
mortonjag 2007-11-09 13:26:34
QUOTE(Robert the Bruce @ Nov 9 2007, 01:22 PM) [snapback]354292[/snapback]
INDEPENDENT - HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU THIS? laugh.gif

Watching that late weather forecast last night it was like something from The Day After Tommorrow. laugh.gif Snow from one end of the planet to the other, its the new global warming its called the ice age. tongue.gif

I always thought INDEPENDANT referred to lightbulbs. INDEPENDENT sounds more incestuous.
mortonjag 2007-11-09 13:28:46
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Nov 9 2007, 01:20 PM) [snapback]354291[/snapback]
No c***. Try again.

cork?
mortonjag 2007-11-09 13:30:30
QUOTE(capello @ Nov 9 2007, 01:26 PM) [snapback]354296[/snapback]
Yes!

so!

No!

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Will Bawheid and Lizzie be deid?
mortonjag 2007-11-09 13:48:23
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Nov 9 2007, 01:17 PM) [snapback]354284[/snapback]
Spoons and Lamahl starting with Graham on the bench?

Sounds good to me

Lamah L-does he not play for Gre£na?
mortonjag 2007-11-09 14:00:10
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 9 2007, 01:50 PM) [snapback]354300[/snapback]
I. Just. Couldn't. Care

Another waste of taxpayers money in my opinion

Correct-for almost three decades Glasgow's been spending a fortune on projecting a tarted up image-'Miles better'-'European City of Culture' etc., while neglecting many of its ongoing social probems.

As Boozie said-I'm SO excited-WELL DONE THEM COONCILLORS-HERE'S TAE THEM-WHA'S LIKE THEM? AYE-RIGHT laugh.gif

SCUM TO THE LAST WEASEL IMO mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-09 14:10:11
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Nov 9 2007, 02:03 PM) [snapback]354310[/snapback]
No

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chic
mortonjag 2007-11-09 14:15:08
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Nov 9 2007, 02:03 PM) [snapback]354311[/snapback]
Magic, this has came at the right time with us doin well at football.
any one know if theres new stadia to be built or will they use kelvin hall, hampden etc

The new Commonwealth Village will be built in the middle of Possil, and after the games converted to the worlds largest 'drop in' centre for 'drop outs'.
mortonjag 2007-11-09 14:17:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Nov 9 2007, 02:13 PM) [snapback]354314[/snapback]
laugh.gif im sure youll give us it one day. maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow or the next day...but someday tongue.gif

Do you promise-I'll be very, very good if you do.
mortonjag 2007-11-09 14:38:49
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Nov 9 2007, 02:24 PM) [snapback]354317[/snapback]
as ever a fountain of knowledge mj. merci!

I'd also imagine we'll see about twenty new hotels to add to our existing oversupply-but the Cooncillors will benefit from those extra places in which to graft away like the little beavers they are.
mortonjag 2007-11-09 14:48:20
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Nov 9 2007, 02:41 PM) [snapback]354322[/snapback]
might add some business to inverclyde too

How so? Don't tell me they're going to turn Scapa into a Commonwealth pool and build us a new state of the art stadium up the Gibby?
mortonjag 2007-11-09 14:51:52
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Nov 9 2007, 02:40 PM) [snapback]354321[/snapback]
I'm just back from the Vatican City and I REALLY want a Swiss Guard's uniform

Speak to Cherie-word has it you can get anything from her.
mortonjag 2007-11-09 16:06:10
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Nov 9 2007, 03:14 PM) [snapback]354329[/snapback]
laugh.gif ThornTON's a chic. Aye right!!

he was only recently an egg!
mortonjag 2007-11-09 16:08:10
QUOTE(capello @ Nov 9 2007, 04:06 PM) [snapback]354350[/snapback]
Fair enough mate, remember that next time theres a pipe band championship on,wonder who pays the emergency services to patrol those events!!!

And don't say its our culture!! laugh.gif

Capello's a COONCILLOR??? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-09 16:10:14
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Nov 9 2007, 03:12 PM) [snapback]354328[/snapback]
A father watched his young daughter playing in the garden. He smiled as he reflected on how sweet and pure his little girl was. Tears formed in his eyes as he thought about her seeing the wonders of nature through such innocent eyes.
Suddenly, she just stopped and stared at the ground. He went over to her to see what work of God had captured her attention. He noticed she was looking at two spiders mating.
"Daddy, what are those two spiders doing?" she asked.
"They're mating," her father replied.
"What do you call the spider on top?" she asked.
"That's a Daddy Longlegs," her father answered.
"So, the other one is a Mommy Longlegs?" the little girl asked.
As his heart soared with the joy of such a cute and innocent question he replied, "No dear. Both of them are Daddy Longlegs."
The little girl, looking a little puzzled, thought for a moment, then took her foot and stomped them flat and said, "We're not having any of that gay s*** in our garden".

Homoarachnophobia in one so young-I bet that child just adores snakes!
mortonjag 2007-11-09 16:37:44
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Nov 9 2007, 04:25 PM) [snapback]354361[/snapback]
Damn, a sensible post in amongst all the hilarity rolleyes.gif

I'd love to discuss 'fingz' with the young man but he dislikes me, and I can't imagine why! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-09 21:54:37
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Nov 9 2007, 04:43 PM) [snapback]354370[/snapback]
Are you saying he is a c*** to? tongue.gif

I've never been introduced to him, though I believe I've seen him twice. I was a bit surprised and disappointed to find that he looked quite normal (given the wide range that is normality). I'd hate to judge a lad purely on message board behaviour-let's face it Mortonjag is a saint in real life.

In summary-he APPEARS to be a c*** huh.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-09 22:06:10
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Nov 9 2007, 05:02 PM) [snapback]354382[/snapback]
Can He Do It?, BLIAR FOR POPE

TBH MJ, who cares biggrin.gif

I'm pretty sure the Pope would prefer to be succeeded by another Hun, than by a mentally deformed weasel.
mortonjag 2007-11-09 22:23:57 Where's the fotie-no Tillies in Weegieland!
mortonjag 2007-11-09 22:26:29
QUOTE(Alibi @ Nov 9 2007, 04:42 PM) [snapback]354369[/snapback]
smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif You've invented a new word...

An irrational fear of Spiderman!
mortonjag 2007-11-09 22:28:46 My wish for perfection has already been granted.
mortonjag 2007-11-09 22:31:38
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Nov 9 2007, 10:16 PM) [snapback]354478[/snapback]
To increase the penalty to 6 points for speeding at 45 mph in a 30 mph zone
Personally, I think it's pish

I couldn't give a toss TBH-folk who do 1.5 times the max in a built up area deserve what they get, but equally, I believe I should be allowed to do 150 m.p.h. on a quiet motorway in good conditions, and I'm sure the average motorist would regard that as crazy!
mortonjag 2007-11-09 22:32:41 green and smells of ham?

Kermit's helmet.
mortonjag 2007-11-09 22:33:54 Not saying!
mortonjag 2007-11-09 22:35:49 Rather cruel I know, but the day when 'Wee Alice' fell down a hole in the playground and broke her leg. She was my favourite teacher, but it was still very amusing!
mortonjag 2007-11-10 07:59:10
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Nov 10 2007, 12:16 AM) [snapback]354546[/snapback]
Why do we never go in for realistic signings like these who would actually give the fans something to get excited about?

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Who needs signings when you've got quality Refs. like Turd Thomson?

Mind you Leafy Russell will become quite entertaining once the others get to know him.
mortonjag 2007-11-10 08:13:17
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Nov 9 2007, 11:41 PM) [snapback]354529[/snapback]
Could either be "no tomatoes" or "madeleine mccann's mutilated corpse"

WTF's Madeleine McCann?
mortonjag 2007-11-10 08:49:20
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Nov 9 2007, 11:04 PM) [snapback]354514[/snapback]
Not had one but my friend informs you feel f***ing amazing afterwards

This thread's most appropriate, as I'm keen to enlist some help for a medical experiment.

I'm planning a 'Truth Enema' for one of my 'patients', a Mr. Craig Thomson. For those of you who don't know, he's a football referee from Paisley, who always speaks the truth. The object of this exercise is to find 'the truth behind the truth'.

The Monkey and I have already decided on the ingredients, but any suggestions as to length of treatment, venue, admission charges, backing bands etc., will be gratefully received.

On the technical side, we need advice on diameter and material for the tubing, and best method of instillation-the Monkey advises the time honoured gravitational feed, but I was wondering about something more dynamic.

Mr Thomson has indicated that 'Nothing should get in the way of the truth' so I shall obtain his informed consent as soon as I can, and treatment will be started soon thereafter.

Donations may also be made by logging onto www.FACTS.org (full analysis of Craig Thomson's Sh*t), and I'm hoping to have a free video made by the camera and editing crew from Hamilton Academical FC, (entitled 'A Load of Crap)'.

All proceeds from this revolutionary exercise will go towards the purchase of a 'Gray's Anatomy' for every Scottish Grade 1 Referee, and each will be bookmarked at 'the Shoulder', and 'The Hand'.

I thank you in anticipation.
mortonjag 2007-11-10 08:59:27 Poor Chocolate Boy-seems he can't get anything right-he WAS only trying to be witty after all!
mortonjag 2007-11-10 10:30:51
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Nov 10 2007, 10:17 AM) [snapback]354600[/snapback]
I got feedback from one of Thomson's colleagues who brought up his recent display at Hamilton. Thmoson is content with his decision as in his opinion it was a handball.

And on it goes HT!! mad.gif

If his OPINION at the time of the goal was 'handball' he'd have chalked it off-PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

He is a liar-young Haswell has admitted he NEVER thought it was a handball, while the other assistant is guilty of complicity with Thomson's lies, having initially taken NO INTEREST WHATSOEVER when the goal was awarded.


I'd love to see Thomson cross examined in court, rather than banking on the SFA colluding with his arse covering fibs. He buckled to player pressure and hasn't the balls to admit his mistake.

Anyway, DDFR and many others of us still await a response to letters to that hallowed institution.
mortonjag 2007-11-11 07:43:25 It was a interesting game-we deserved the points-no question about it, but we STILL lack the killer instinct, and the truth is that their goalie did very little over 90 minutes. Still a lot to work on. Could have been SO different if the closed season hadn't been a non-event.

I thought our fans were superb-back to the chants, singing and enjoying themselves. Long may it continue!
mortonjag 2007-11-11 07:47:02
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Nov 10 2007, 11:34 PM) [snapback]355093[/snapback]
I'm getting seriously browned off with the fact that we don't have a sub goallie fixed up. Its just asking for trouble not having a proper goallie on the bench and if McGurn gets hurt we are in serious sh1t.

Surely by this time we could have fixed someone up temporarily - maybe a loan or a recently retired keeper or even a decent junior. I dreading the day we have to put Deen Keenan in goal!!!

It took a wee while before they realised Spoonsy was a striker! The truth may eventually dawn.
mortonjag 2007-11-11 08:00:59 I thought Dr. Conroy's performance was pretty abysmal, not helped by a mouse of an away stand linesman, and a clot on the other flank.

I was just about to report him to the G.M.C. S.F.A. for serious professional misconduct when yon' ba' hit the defender's hand in the box-never a deliberate offence, but AYE it may have prevented a goal, so Conroy pointed to the spot.

Cue-half a dozen Q.o. S. players surround him-akin to the Thomson farce at Hamilton-the bold boys have apparently heard that when you're playing the Ton, you can easily get refs to change decisions.

Suddenly I saw Dr Conroy in a new light, as he produced, one, then a second, and then a third yellow card!

Lawyers, it would appear, merely take instructions, but disobey the doctor's orders at your peril.
mortonjag 2007-11-11 08:43:00
QUOTE(davidos @ Nov 10 2007, 10:56 PM) [snapback]355087[/snapback]
Not at all,just happened to be there at the time.Rather than stand back and take it he got some banter back.Like i said no sour grapes on my part,but the boy needs to act in a professional manner.Too many fans get stick for kicking off,on this occasion he was the one acting the goat.

You clearly missed the point davidos-aye Scotty is a c***y little c*nt, but if Jim and Martin had been there he'd have sat as quiet as a wee mouse-he can be an awful good boy when it suits him you know! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-11 09:00:49 To be frank, Walker will always be an attacking midfielder, but he's just another guy who has to 'fit in' to command a place in the team.

We still need to SIGN a left back, and while I'm at it, another centre half, at least one proper winger, a goalie,and a midfield general.

The boys are doing pretty well right now-what few seem to see is that it wouldn't have taken that much more to have us up with Dundee and Hamilton.

We COULD still win this league if that's what's really wanted by those with the power. A long shot now, I know, but it's a fact

We're far enough in now to assess things-FFS even Stirling aren't being taken for fools despite limited resources-this is NOT the SPL-- BY A LONG CHALK. The transfer window will be on us before we know it, JM seems to have walked to the edge of the plank and back, and at the moment there's a wee 'feel good' factor buzzing around.

C'mon Shoogly, what's the plan? You told us absolutely nothing after promotion. You treated the fans very shabbily-did you just lose your bottle for a wee moment? You were CORRECT about the talent in the squad, but it was never going to be enough. You'll soon have the chance to get us on the right track again.
mortonjag 2007-11-11 09:07:28
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Nov 11 2007, 08:40 AM) [snapback]355134[/snapback]
I say a back , chest and arm-pit wax for Cash for Kids. Sean seems to be game. Come on Donga, think of the weans. sad.gif biggrin.gif

Just think-he could sponsor his baw hairs at 10p for each plucking and raise an absolute fortune for this worthy cause.

No pain-no gain! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-11 10:20:55
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Nov 11 2007, 09:32 AM) [snapback]355141[/snapback]
he was equally bad for both sides with some crazy decisions. I thought the second hand ball shout was more of a penalty than the one that was given.

Just read the papers, and beginning to doubt my eyes-apparently only Tosh was booked at the time of the 'penalty' yet he quite DEFINITELY raised the card three times! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-11 15:03:28
QUOTE(C B @ Nov 11 2007, 11:43 AM) [snapback]355164[/snapback]
Centre Mid - don't you remember when JM did play him in his "proper" position - begininning of two seasons ago - he displayed a rasper of a strike from outside the box with EITHER foot !

The guy is just a good enough footballer to play at left back, but that doesnt mean he should play at left back dry.gif

Exactly-he was absolutely 'skinned' on one occasion yesterday, just like Spoonsy used to be-NOT his fault-but it could easily have led to a goal. An experienced left footed full back (not necessarily a brilliant one) wouldn't have committed himself that way.
mortonjag 2007-11-11 15:12:39
QUOTE(Toby @ Nov 11 2007, 12:52 PM) [snapback]355190[/snapback]
Tbh I think our refs are generally better than most of the referees you see on the continent,[b] at least they're not corrupt![/b] But in saying that it's been one of the more disappointing aspects of winning promotion. I expected to be seeing a higher standard of refereeing since we were at a higher lever, but apart from the fact Hardie's been struck off, I've not seen much improvement.

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How would you describe Thomson's behaviour at Hamilton Toby. I guess you're maybe thinking of altering results for financial gain, but Thomson's actions were corrupt in the extreme.

Our beloved Mr Hardie may well have been an officious buffoon, but he'd have stuck to his decision and probably booked five Hamiton players into the bargain. The SFA are just keeping this under wraps 'til they think it's safe enough to post a mildly worded letter to DDFR, but I fail to see why that BLATANT LIAR should get off scot free. mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-11 15:15:33
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Nov 11 2007, 01:05 PM) [snapback]355192[/snapback]
No comment says the bold mortonjag laugh.gif

They're clearly using the wrong supplier HH!
mortonjag 2007-11-11 15:25:57 No 1


Hit and hope!


No 2


Big Greace takes the hump.
mortonjag 2007-11-11 15:33:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Nov 11 2007, 02:13 PM) [snapback]355206[/snapback]
Shameless opportunist commercial exploitation.

I'd have said it was a tad honest displaying the insurance broker's details alongside his own! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-11 16:08:53 I really enjoyed my trip to Dumfries, and the end result was satisfying, but we're back at the same old nonsense. We had the lion's share of possession, and spent a lot of that game in the front quarter of the pitch, yet we hardly had one decent pot at goal-Alex Walker fired in a cracker in the first half which the goalie spilled, and Scott produced a save near the end, but that was about it. Especially now, when Leafy is there to pick up the scraps, we should be testing the opposing goalie at every opportunity.
mortonjag 2007-11-11 16:22:54
QUOTE(Zutons @ Nov 11 2007, 12:53 PM) [snapback]355191[/snapback]
Never do more than 80 mph on motoway

If the traffic cops were honest, they'd admit that that's the attitude which clogs up our motorways. Speed should (within reason) relate to the power and efficiency of the vehicle, and the prevailing road conditions. The biggest problem on motorways is NOT excessive speed-it's lack of driving ability and common courtesy-particularly lane discipline.

Compare the scenario on the average commuter morning, to the average Sunday afternoon, when traffic volume is similar, and you'll know exactly what I mean.

Having said that, you're still more likely to get 'pulled' for doing ninety in a decent motor on a deserted sunny afternoon, than Mrs 'Doh' is for travelling in the outside lane at 55 m.p.h. for half an hour blethering obliviously to Mrs 'Turnipheid' in the passenger seat, while the weans go mental in the back! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-11 16:38:27
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Nov 11 2007, 04:24 PM) [snapback]355261[/snapback]
Ha Ha, the dreaded P.I. insurance. At least Architects and Engineers have to fork out for theirs; unlike Quacks who get theirs covered by the NHS. biggrin.gif

The current subscription rate for professional indemnity for a G.P. is about £3000 p.a. D.E., and comes straight out of the 'Quack's own pocket!

Looking at realistic averages, and not the hyped up twaddle of the tabloids, that represents some 4% of income.

How does that compare with your lot? wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-11 16:56:10
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Nov 11 2007, 04:33 PM) [snapback]355262[/snapback]
That all sounds suspiciously like the views of a psychotic tailgater. biggrin.gif I hope you're not one of those Doctor.

I am a psychotic tailgater killer DE. I always move to the left to allow overtaking as soon as it is safe to do so-not that I require to do it too often!

The usual scenario is that I'm patiently keeping my distance in the outside lane behind slower traffic as some clot sits a yard off my back bumper in his incipient M.O.T failure. I reduce my speed ever so gradually, usually to the accompaniment of flashing headlights and occasional horn blowing. Then, when I see the road clearing I drop to third gear and 'floor it' with an evil little chuckle as he disappears into the rear view horizon. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-11 17:04:43
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Nov 11 2007, 04:57 PM) [snapback]355273[/snapback]
Our P.I. rate is generally related to the value of construction contracts undertaken, so it varies according to workload. Most clients are looking for minimum cover of £5M some for much more, and can cost around £5k to 10k p.a. depending on practice experience and previous claims history. I sit corrected about the NHS forking out for you lot. £3k ? I thought That Quacks and Saw-bones would have to pay much more than that. Any mistakes that I make can be repaired, you have to bury yours. biggrin.gif

The rates are obviously linked to successful claims DE-the standard of medicine in this country is still reasonable despite appearances to the contrary!
mortonjag 2007-11-11 17:10:46 Mailer was married six times I believe-I'm always suspicious of men who marry six times, though I can't quite work out the reason.
mortonjag 2007-11-11 17:12:17 Exactly-what's the script Shoogly?
mortonjag 2007-11-12 06:16:58
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Nov 11 2007, 05:48 PM) [snapback]355296[/snapback]
Oh! The barbs. If the Doctor is so damn smart, why hasn't he found a cure for Mortonmania. I've been suffering for years. Prescribe a trophy please, one a wee bit better than the Renfrewshire Cup.

There may be no cure for this all too common ailment DE-we thought we had a Rae of hope some five years ago, but early promise has failed to come to fruition. As with all clinical research funding rarely matches ambition, and success is more often a function of experience than luck.
mortonjag 2007-11-12 06:19:06
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Nov 11 2007, 06:56 PM) [snapback]355325[/snapback]
He's too busy looking for a cure for his own 'Shooglyphobia' to be bothered about you! tongue.gif Just had a look at the Tontastic photos, but couldn't see one capturing when Alibi and his mates in the Main Stand put toilet roll bandages round their heads to mimic Peter Weatherson. We could see it from the Away Stand - hilarious. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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I'll Shooglyphobia you! I'll admit to an irrational fear of bogey men, but not of the Millionsmeister! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-12 06:21:32
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Nov 11 2007, 07:02 PM) [snapback]355327[/snapback]
Centre mid , for me , just like the Spoonster . I remember him at right back and remember Alex commenting he had played there for the Sons of William .
He made left back his own when MacGregor was out last season but was displaced when Davie returned .

...and Davie McG's never a left back, nor is Deano, despite the fact that can both put in a shift at No 3.
mortonjag 2007-11-12 06:26:36
QUOTE(standman @ Nov 11 2007, 07:02 PM) [snapback]355326[/snapback]
On this occasion I can't agree.

We have scored three away from home and had another two cleared off the line and Russell missed another two decent chances.

So we were on top and also created plenty, in my opinion.

So you think we shouldn't bother shooting more often-just keep concentrating on the painstaking build up play, which more often than not has come to nothing in the past. I wasn't specifically criticising our performance at Q o S, but wouldn't it have been nice to have knocked in another two or three.

We COULD HAVE you know! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-12 06:30:37
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Nov 11 2007, 07:27 PM) [snapback]355338[/snapback]
T.W.A.T !!!!! mad.gif

unsure.gif

Are you trying to annoy me, or must I again excuse you for drunken irresponsibility? How long did you take to get home from Dumfries you clown? Do you even know that this season's balls are lighter than those of last? Can you still find yours, or has alcohol induced atrophy shrivelled them beyond recognition?
mortonjag 2007-11-12 06:44:52
QUOTE(piehutt @ Nov 11 2007, 09:26 PM) [snapback]355386[/snapback]
I am amazed at that result.
Just as well I'd been nowhere near a bookies today or I'd have plunked my payslip on a home win there!

1st division is just crazy, going to be one of the closest leagues in history. Seems the only certainty is that Hamilton are going to win.

You've got that sorted too! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-12 06:50:55
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Nov 11 2007, 10:31 PM) [snapback]355425[/snapback]
I've edited it so F%ck off you wee pedantic barsteward!!

Last time you come in my car!!

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mortonjag 2007-11-12 06:53:16
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Nov 12 2007, 06:41 AM) [snapback]355466[/snapback]
just pointing out the obvious old man, if that annoys you then so be it.
You T.W.A.T !

Being called T.W.A.T by somebody I respected possibly would annoy me.
mortonjag 2007-11-12 07:01:03
QUOTE(edd @ Nov 11 2007, 07:05 PM) [snapback]355329[/snapback]
we still talk about miles per gallon though.

It sounds much more impressive than miles per l., liter, or litre-I can, incidentally get about 60 k.p.g from my 2.8 l. motor-that's a measly 9 m.p.l. wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-12 07:08:25
QUOTE(The Shuffler @ Nov 12 2007, 05:10 AM) [snapback]355457[/snapback]
Thinking of changing my existing package with Virgin, currently paying a fortune monthly for phone , broadband & channels !

Does any one know of any decent deals at the mo or can recommend anything. thnx in advance.

Still very happy with plusnet for broadband and 'phone, but you'd have to do the telly separately.
mortonjag 2007-11-13 07:14:14 It's amazing what happens when you get promoted! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-13 07:24:17
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Nov 12 2007, 07:57 PM) [snapback]355675[/snapback]
Does that tell me something I wonder? Building failures or people dying as a result of medical negligence are not on the same scale of importance? Or is it just that the actuarial tables show that Accountants make more mistakes than Architects, and Doctors are the cleverest of all ? biggrin.gif

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I've long since decided that NHS doctors are eejits, and I include myself. I should have emigrated in my mid twenties-NOT just for the bucks mind you-more for freedom from political control.

Anyway, it's all water under the bridge!
mortonjag 2007-11-13 07:30:51 I've ripped out all the old units in my Mum's kitchen, and am about to refit it. I don't need DIY advice-I'm O.K. with that-but does anybody have experience of the cheapest/most reliable source for units? Is it best to buy pre-assembled or flat pack-should I buy locally or go on line-do you get special deals on white goods/units packages etc.?

All help will be greatly appreciated.
mortonjag 2007-11-14 07:16:50 Many, many thanks to you all. My mum's still in hospital but due home by Christmas so I have time on my side-it looks like Howdens may be the best bet.

Here's the next question! wink.gif

Her ceiling is 'mingin'-not dirty-just 'mingin'-bloody emulsioned white woodchip paper with the seams showing and slightly gaping in places. It will break my heart if I have to strip all that, though it may be the only answer. I've hung suspended ceilings in the past but there's not enough clearance, and I'm not into lining it with expensive cladding or the like. I also plan to flush fit about eight spotlights, so I just want a nice flat finish. I'm O.K. at rough plasterwork, but wouldn't dream of trying a ceiling. Thoughts? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-14 07:26:51
QUOTE(tontastic @ Nov 12 2007, 10:04 AM) [snapback]355500[/snapback]
So there I was, sat at the QotS end of the ground on Saturday as the penalty was given ... the fans behind me choked on their pies and spat out their bovril as one does when a controversial decision is given. There is a cacophony of noise of general insults and disbelief which lasts quite a while. Just as this tails off a lone voice screams through strained chords .... "You couldn't referee in a brothel"

I imagine he thought Dr Conroy's performance was not competent for Pros.

Incidentally he started off as a Rugby Ref, but I believe he couldn't handle the hookers.
mortonjag 2007-11-15 06:57:02
QUOTE(port-ton @ Nov 14 2007, 12:35 PM) [snapback]356155[/snapback]
i actually laughed at a mortonjag joke, because i actually got it ohmy.gif . i feel we have bonded in this moment MJ laugh.gif

We are all bonded-even when we hate each other!

Mon e TON!!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-15 07:03:44
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Nov 15 2007, 12:28 AM) [snapback]356396[/snapback]
I'm not surprised. Partick have some good players in their squad, especially Buchanan, a player I wish we had. Livvy may have humped us but it was imho a freak result and they are still a pretty poor (probably bottom half) side.

We still have a game in hand over Thistle which, as that was their boxing day game, is effectively our home game against Dunfermline.

I'm feeling a lot more confident against most teams in this league and essentially, I feel I'm looking for a result against anybody and a win against most sides. We are finding our feet and I feel optimistic that the results will come.

I might feel differently after our next defeat!!!

Livingston had just come off a good run, and Partick pretty well the opposite. It's a crazy division, but I'm enjoying it FAR more than the previous grind of under achievement.

IF ONLY we'd gone for broke and signed those extra two or three players-Hamilton are not THAT great, and were exposed against Hibs.
Anyway, the transfer window beckons, and surely we must AT LEAST now see this season as a platform for promotion next time.
mortonjag 2007-11-15 07:23:44 Again thanks for the advice and commiserations-the Monkey, Willow, is afraid of heights!!

To DE-no it's a bungalow with an easily accessed and commodious loft, but thanks for the caveat, and aye Boozy, I spent all day yesterday stripping the bloody stuff-the under surface is in quite good nick, so I'll probably escape with some delicate filling and a couple of coats of good quality emulsion.

Just a word of warning to all DIYers-never trust the previous lot! I knew there had once been an extractor fan (the grille on the outside wall was a give away) which had been removed and the wall covered in pine cladding. When I removed the cladding, the fan was missing, but the vent casing still in position-complete with what looked like a stray piece of electric cable-cue mains tester. It was still LIVE, and, on investigation, spurred into the back of one or the ring mains sockets!!

Some people are indeed eejits! mad.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-16 06:30:14 Pardon my ignorance-is that rather petulant looking waif in the light blue scants called Amanda?

The stupid child should know better in this weather-has she never heard of indoor swimming pools?
mortonjag 2007-11-16 06:42:26 The bass guitar is only an accompanying instrument, but as others have said, it's vital to have a good sense of rhythm and I'd say, a good ear for music. After that I'd imagine reasonable competence on a normal six string electric could see you playing bass in a couple of months. I haven't met many good bassists who were not also slick guitarists.
mortonjag 2007-11-16 06:50:52 Oh and also to yon' Belgian ex-pat-can't remember his name-something about a snake charmer I believe.
mortonjag 2007-11-16 07:05:46
QUOTE(Alibi @ Nov 13 2007, 08:56 AM) [snapback]355800[/snapback]
MJ, most of my relatives are doctors - my father was a GP, my mother a consultant opthalmologist, my sister and brother, brother in law and ex wife are all doctors - my mother always said you don't need to be clever to be a doctor, just have a good memory. I suppose there's some truth in that as you're not doing anything original, just following textbooks much of the time. I suppose the skill is in fields like surgery where dexterity is needed, but basically doctors are sort of health detectives following the clues.

The most difficult bit about becoming a doctor (apart from all the very intensive studying) would seem to be actually getting a place at uni, due to the competition for places. I was offered a place at Glasgow to do medicine in 1970, but I turned it down - apparently I was the first candidate that anyone could remember ever turning down a place on the medical course. I just wasn't interested in it, only applied as my parents wanted me to, never expected actually to get accepted. I don't think I was any great loss to medicine frankly!

I've felt for some time that academic qualifications should not be the only consideration for entry to Medical School-clearly a good intelligence is a pre-requisite, but in my experience, the best doctors I've known were frequently relative 'duffers' at University, and one thing's for sure, you only LEARN the job by doing it.

I went into Medicine after doing an Arts degree because I'd made a career decision by then. I loved my job, but eventually despaired of working in the NHS. I'm no Tory, but the concept of an all embracing State funded Health Service which can meet demand, is logistically fatally flawed- something Ms. Sturgeon seems to have failed to grasp!
mortonjag 2007-11-16 07:07:20
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Nov 14 2007, 09:14 AM) [snapback]356112[/snapback]
We can all look back on our careers and wish we had done certain things differently. Me, I wish I had gone out on my own with my own independent insolvency practice around 1990 when I had the chance. I would be living on my yacht in the South of France and commuting to Cappielow by private jet if I had.

Oh well!!

I empathise, but don't be too despondent-money's not everything, even if it does allow you to be miserable in comfort! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-16 07:50:26 I'm old enough to remember being at Hampden in a crowd of 110,000, and NOT at an international either!! Furthermore, the National Stadium's only a mile or so along the road, and I'd love to be at the game tomorrow, but I didn't get a ticket. 'Oh well', I imagined, 'no problem, I'll just watch it on the telly with a couple of beers' -but wait-it's no on the cooncil telly. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

Exploitation of the football fan has never been so prevalent and barefaced, and I REFUSE TO BE RAPED by anonymous greedy b*stards......

....so I have decided to continue working away at my Mum's kitchen restoration, with one ear on my wee wireless, and that way I can harmlessly knock f*ck out of something with my pet club hammer if it goes against us! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Either way Mortonjag wins.
mortonjag 2007-11-18 08:15:56
QUOTE(dmc @ Nov 16 2007, 09:39 PM) [snapback]356966[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Nov 16 2007, 07:01 PM) [snapback]356930[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->My car does 185mph!!!!!!!!
Allegedly ph34r.gif
When I was young and daft I had a Lotus Elise and took a photo of the speedo at 155mph mellow.gif dry.gif f*d!!

I think CB probably has a FAD for fast motors, just as I do dmc. Mine ALLEGEDLY only does 165m.p.h.

I'm sorry to hear about the recent mishap, but please don't tar all with the same brush. Incidentally I've had a clean driving licence for the last fifteen years, and intend to keep it that way.
mortonjag 2007-11-18 08:21:23
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Nov 16 2007, 11:14 PM) [snapback]356987[/snapback]
No matter where your watching or listening to it , it will be a nervous 90 minutes for everyone .
Good luck with the kitchen .

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Thanks Chris-after Italy scored that first goal-I got on like a house on fire-disappointed in the result of the football mind you!

The real stuff starts again on Saturday-will Buckie come with bottle?
mortonjag 2007-11-18 08:33:17
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Nov 16 2007, 08:11 PM) [snapback]356941[/snapback]
i find that rather hard to believe. surely lots of folk will put glasgow as second choice when going for one of the higher-ranked medical schools?

Are you calling our good fellow poster a liar Trumpet?

Bear in mind that in the sixties and seventies 'ranking' of Universities had not assumed the current obsessional proportions, largely because in those days a 'University' was JUST that! mad.gif

Furthermore, of the four Scottish Medical Schools, no one has EVER been perceived as outright 'leader', though they each have excellence in varying specialties, and even those days, a Scottish medical education is envied universally.
mortonjag 2007-11-18 08:38:45
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Nov 17 2007, 07:48 PM) [snapback]357082[/snapback]
I don't care.

Leafy it is smile.gif


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Leafy will rustle up plenty of goals this season HH!

Nelly will score plenty too I'm sure! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-18 08:45:04 I guess we may have a week or so of punning about our Northern Cup rivals. It seems our manager has bucked the trend by missing the international match.

I just hope that he only took in Buckie for ninety minutes, and not all weekend. Don't want him hung over for Saturday's game.
mortonjag 2007-11-18 08:47:41 We've done really well-onward and upward I say.

Back to real football this Saturday.

C'mon the TON!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-18 08:55:35 Right Gordon, that's the big distraction out of the road. I know you got my recorded delivery letter, and I won't rest until I've had a satisfactory reply.

You are the Chief Executive, and I expect you to justify your £160,000 salary. One of your employees has been caught with his pants down. Please don't think this will go away. The buck ultimately stops at YOU.
mortonjag 2007-11-19 06:53:44
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Nov 18 2007, 09:07 AM) [snapback]357194[/snapback]
No disrespect but I thought you were about 108.......you still have a mother????????!!!!!!!!!!!! blink.gif

107 to be exact DM-the Old Dear's 129 next May, God willing.
mortonjag 2007-11-19 06:56:04
QUOTE(dmc @ Nov 18 2007, 09:11 AM) [snapback]357195[/snapback]
f***ing MISHAP!!!

A mishap is when you spill coffee on the carpet, not when some wee p***k plows into your car doing 70mph in a 30 zone!!

Hopefully if you do similar speeds your lisense won't be "clean" for much longer!!

I have not attempted to demean your bad fortune dmc-I didn't realise it had been deliberate. That is truly awful.
mortonjag 2007-11-19 06:58:42
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Nov 18 2007, 11:34 AM) [snapback]357227[/snapback]
Is he banned for Saturday's game or is the Cup a "reprieve"? unsure.gif

Hey you, I thought you'd been axed! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-19 07:01:01
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Nov 18 2007, 11:06 PM) [snapback]357388[/snapback]
Why is Limahl known as Beany or Leafy?

Leafy Russell

Do beans rustle?
mortonjag 2007-11-19 07:08:21
QUOTE(stubaws @ Nov 18 2007, 05:24 PM) [snapback]357300[/snapback]
quite right, let it go people. i just hope that the media dont start camping outside that spanish refs house now like the english did after euro 2004 (where the ref actually got the decision right), that would just be embarassing and the country's name would get dragged through the mud

That is what they are hoping for-they still seem to think that they can behave in an unacceptable and unaccountable way Stu.

Irrespective of what Mr Smith may wish, I will not rest until he has replied to my very polite letter. The Chief Executive has a responsibility to those whom the S.F.A. serve, and we are included, even if we are just 'wee' Morton.

If he has a very reasonable explanation for Mr Thomson's behaviour, I'm sure he'll be in touch soon. If not he should be doing something about it.
mortonjag 2007-11-21 05:11:32
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Nov 19 2007, 05:54 PM) [snapback]357534[/snapback]
what a pointless thread. Do you honestly think that Gordon Smith reads this board? Why not just start a thread saying you sent him a letter via recorded delivery as this is obviously the point of the thread.

The point of the thread was to rekindle the issue for those,who like myself and Douglas Rae, had gone to the trouble of asking for an investigation.

Yesterday I received this letter,and don't know what to make of it, but the matter is clearly not dead.
mortonjag 2007-11-21 05:30:02
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Nov 19 2007, 08:47 PM) [snapback]357581[/snapback]
The guys you see driving like that are usually fuds. Speed kills.

Mrs T, fraid you've got this completely wrong!

Driving a bus at 25 m.p.h. down a narrow and busy town street in bad visibility on black ice is legal in terms of the speed limit.

Driving a brand new 'Supercar' at 75m.p.h.on a deserted motorway in perfect conditions is,on the other hand,very, very, naughty!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-22 05:00:14
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Nov 21 2007, 06:56 PM) [snapback]358056[/snapback]
I take it that Newall character is the name of the Monkey tongue.gif

His full name is Monkey Dalglish-Newall-he is very proud of his double barrelledness!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-22 05:15:21 I'd be happy to see Jim go. I've frequently asserted that he needs a move, and he's Dundee based-just along the road from Perth. It's been eminently clear to me that he can't cope with DDFR's interference, and IMO his true managerial talent has yet to be proven or otherwise.

The trouble is how to get a replacement with balls when it comes to dealing with the Shooglemeister.
mortonjag 2007-11-22 05:41:22
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Nov 21 2007, 12:14 PM) [snapback]357948[/snapback]
So you are now proposing laws which should take into account the drivers perception of conditions? Talk sense. Laws have been put in place and should be adhered to.

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You are out of context HT-on yer bike!!

The bus driver in my analogy could be charged under two or three other motoring laws, but NOT with exceeding the speed limit, while no Traffic Cop worth his salt would dream of booking the other driver.

For what it's worth, I believe that the most dangerous clots on the road are those who believe you're SUPPOSED to drive at 30 mph in built up areas. Time after time, when I'm going more slowly because conditions are unsafe, I'm harassed by eejits 'up my arse'!

Furthermore, it's a proven fact that commuter traffic flows far more freely on weekday motorways than do those 'Sunday afternoon' caravans of clowns heading for the Mother in Law's or Braehead, simply because, (within reason), average speeds are much higher, and lane discipline infinitely better with regular drivers.

Instead of mouthing off your own agenda, speak to an experienced Traffic Policeman. Excessive speed IS dangerous-it's the definition which confuses most.
mortonjag 2007-11-23 05:59:59
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Nov 22 2007, 08:44 PM) [snapback]358523[/snapback]
google earthed your post code

always thought you where a west end kinda guy.

your local team = celtic

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Nope-Pollok Juniors are a quarter of a mile away!
mortonjag 2007-11-23 06:00:58
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Nov 22 2007, 09:50 PM) [snapback]358553[/snapback]
MJ, there is a missing f in your name.

PS Admin maybe it would be appropriate to hide MJ's personal details?

The monkey has nothing to hide except bananas.
mortonjag 2007-11-23 06:05:31
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Nov 22 2007, 10:21 AM) [snapback]358318[/snapback]
You must be a mason.

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No HT, it's just the Dupuytren's contractures! wink.gif
mortonjag 2007-11-23 06:10:16 It's part of the job-you learn to switch off. I guess any decent professional will do his best for a client irrespective the latter's personal circumstances.
mortonjag 2007-11-23 06:18:01 Things are moving along nicely. Yesterday I completed the re-plastering. One of my Mum's kitchen walls now contains a Morton programme safely encapsulated in a polythene sleeve! It's the one with young Coakley on the front-who knows what his history will have been when/if it's re-discovered!
mortonjag 2007-11-24 05:34:37
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Nov 23 2007, 06:56 PM) [snapback]358749[/snapback]
Belter biggrin.gif

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mortonjag 2007-11-24 05:40:30
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Nov 23 2007, 12:42 PM) [snapback]358660[/snapback]
Why Coakleys piccy? No-one will remember him next year never mind whenever the wall is done again.

It was the Monkey's decision-he said he didn't know who that man was, and he likes all the other pictures, especially David McGurn!
mortonjag 2007-11-24 05:42:15
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Nov 23 2007, 12:49 PM) [snapback]358668[/snapback]
I think its probably more to do with your carpal tunnel...ooh err.

I'll carpal tunnel you
























































if you're up for it! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-13 16:14:39
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 13 2008, 04:07 PM) [snapback]381854[/snapback]
Was it because they knew they had underestimated the strength of the league and overestimated the quality of the summer signings . Cue some ackward questions , and vague answers .

Don't be a silly Billy-Mr Rae knows what he's doing-just have faith-the Jag's been very busy of late but will definitely be at the rally this year to kiss Shoogly's hallowed arse! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-16 13:14:28 Thanks to all who expressed concern at my absence-I've enjoyed the wee break, and my Mum's now home from hospital and enjoying her new kitchen. Also thanks to Tontastic and the others who recommended Howdens-the units all came from the Cappielow depot, and the quality and price are excellent.

Now to serious matters---


Is this new director about to bankroll a thrust for the SPL? Is Shoogly going soft in the head? Something doesn't quite fit here-I'm bemused.

What's the script folks? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-16 13:14:55 Thanks to all who expressed concern at my absence-I've enjoyed the wee break, and my Mum's now home from hospital and enjoying her new kitchen. Also thanks to Tontastic and the others who recommended Howdens-the units all came from the Cappielow depot, and the quality and price are excellent.

Now to serious matters---


Is this new director about to bankroll a thrust for the SPL? Is Shoogly going soft in the head? Something doesn't quite fit here-I'm bemused.

What's the script folks? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-16 13:24:57
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 16 2008, 01:18 PM) [snapback]383340[/snapback]
glad to hear about your mum smile.gif

dont know much about the new director but for me the serious matter is your mums new kitchen! been on the edge of my seat for weeks waiting to find out how good it is.

TY-I'm scared folk will laugh at me but I'll be back down next week and I'll try to post a wee fotie! wink.gif

mortonjag 2008-01-16 14:46:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 16 2008, 01:53 PM) [snapback]383370[/snapback]
General Nonsense with this shoite! tongue.gif

Stick yer chanter up yer kilt ya cheeky wee brat!
mortonjag 2008-01-16 15:37:26
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jan 16 2008, 06:42 AM) [snapback]383207[/snapback]
Been saying that for months.

McInally's handling of the player has been baffling, considering his comments in the past regarding his confidence and how highly he rates him.

I can't think of one player who has come to us and fulfilled his potential with a previous club. Jamie Stevenson was dynamite at Alloa. It's taken Kevin Finlayson two seasons to get back to the kind of player he was with Stranraer. Even McGuffie has come straight from the SPL and not set the heather alight. I keep asking myself why Chris Millar's f***ed off to a decent manager, and I imagine Jimbo won't be far behind. Spoonsy's a cracking player, but deserves a huge managerial kick up the arse, and he'll only get that when JM goes IMO.
mortonjag 2008-01-16 15:46:48
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 16 2008, 03:38 PM) [snapback]383414[/snapback]
Seriously unhappy about this, in the ten minutes or so he got at the end of games he's looked as if he would do well if he got a proper chance, yet he was forced to warm the bench while some waster gets a full 90 minutes week in week out regardless of how little work he does.

Templeman was never given a fair chance at Cappielow, McInally's treatment of him was disgraceful.

A fool and his money are easily parted Mr Rae-thankfully for Sanny he's still young enough to make something of his career with a manager who knows how to capitalise on the assets in a squad. Millar and Templeman are the tip of an iceberg of discontent, and it's JM who should be on the P45 bus IMO.
mortonjag 2008-01-16 15:50:29
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 16 2008, 03:46 PM) [snapback]383426[/snapback]
Derek McInnes is the most rookie manager in Britain.

How you thinking he's decent?

He was 'managing' the Ton on the pitch from an early age Donga-he's got what it takes-guaranteed.
mortonjag 2008-01-16 15:54:01
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 16 2008, 03:51 PM) [snapback]383433[/snapback]
Your time away on the Tarot Card and Crystal Ball Beginners courses is yielding excellent results already, Mr Jag. smile.gif

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Time will tell, but knowing McInnes as I do I'd have him at Scapa in place of JM tomorrow, and remember the St. Johnstone board ain't mugs!
mortonjag 2008-01-16 16:07:20
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Jan 16 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]383440[/snapback]
Yep. I'd give it to McAlister as he seems to be one of the most influential players.

I don't see anything in Jimbo that big Greacen hasn't got-both 100% guys who can lead by example,and that's about it. Give Barry Smith a few weeks to settle, and he'll walk into the job.
mortonjag 2008-01-16 16:24:18
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 16 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]383463[/snapback]
I have to admit i was not a big fan of Chris when he first came to Scappa, but after he returned from Brechin and put in a good pre season, he looked a lot better. He was looking a better player this season despite the fact that most of his appearances came from the bench. JM should have been playing him instead of Weatherston in the last few weeks.
Anyway all the best big man. Hope it works out for him. Maybe he will forge a good partnership with Bobby Linn now.

Aye it's kinda scary to think those two could be knocking them in against us next season Weegie! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-16 16:27:56
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 16 2008, 04:22 PM) [snapback]383469[/snapback]
footballing ability?

it would be pointless giving the captains armband so someone who is only here til april, thats not even the end of the season is it?

Disagree-every match is vital right now-Livingston was a debacle which no decent captain would have allowed-a total cop out, and we're NEVER going to get any motivation from JM on match days.
mortonjag 2008-01-17 09:18:09 We shouldn't be too critical 'til January 31st-it's never too late to learn, and McGuffie and Smith coming at least indicates a willingness at long last to bring in experience.

On the down side I have a horrible feeling that the current exodus of players confirms that all is not well in the dressing room.
mortonjag 2008-01-17 09:24:14 Sanny--- all the best-you were one of the most entertaining and undervalued players at Scapa, but let's face it, JM couldn't manage a piss up in a brewery so what chance did you have with him and the Sugar Daddy! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-17 09:39:52 It's far too easy to highlight Sanny's bad points and he has plenty, but the fact is that he's a superb link player with an instinctive ability to hold the ball up and release it at the right time. That was NEVER used properly by JM-I believe Ian Russell and Chris could have become a potent partnership, but an unfit and off form Spoonsy (whom I rate highly as a player) has been flavour of the month with our managerial genius.
mortonjag 2008-01-17 09:51:21 Many happy returns of the day young man-you're now only twenty years away from the decade of wisdom! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-17 13:32:53 It seems that Shoogly and his lapdog have finally decided to bring in some experience. Their blatant failure to address the issue previously has only cost us two or three seasons of progress, and since they are basically good chaps I suppose we must forgive their little peccadillos.

That said, I wish you lot would stop the 'Well Done' stuff. If doing the obvious too late and in too little measure turns you on so much, that's a sad reflection on the lack of excitement at Scapa of late! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-17 13:44:41
QUOTE(suda @ Jan 17 2008, 01:36 PM) [snapback]384095[/snapback]
I agree I'm most upset that Rae has been cutting his cloth to fit the situation. I think we should of had these higher paid players in from the start so we could be struggling and have to get rid of them now

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Mince- my good chap-haven't you noticed our crowds are DOWN and you claim we're bringing in higher paid players to suit the situation.

No Sir, the truth is that having steadfastly and stubbornly refused to bring in experience which needn't have cost that much and could have seen us in the SPL by now, it's finally dawned on our hallowed chairman that JM ain't Matt Busby.
mortonjag 2008-01-17 13:57:57
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jan 17 2008, 01:51 PM) [snapback]384103[/snapback]
We are now signing experienced players with SPL quality, guys who WILL take us on to the next level.

Are you saying we should have just signed whatever experienced players were available 2/3 years ago just to appease the fans?
How do you know that we haven't been making efforts to sign players like these but only now are they becoming available?

Any excuse for a moan with you! Feck off back to your DIY and give us all piece.

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I'm not moaning-I'm pleased that the penny has finally dropped-maybe we'll get an experienced manager next-then we could really start motoring.
mortonjag 2008-01-17 14:34:53
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Jan 17 2008, 02:12 PM) [snapback]384115[/snapback]
No one mentioned anything about Greacen, Harding, Linn etc. blink.gif But slaughtering them on a regular basis really helps matters eh?!! mad.gif

The fact is, that Templeman is a far better footballer than any of the others mentioned!! Yet got the same (if not more) abuse as the players mentioned above. For anyone to state that the abuse doesn't affect players (and I include the others in your post) is ludicrous!! Of course it does.

I remember speaking to Paul Walker when he was with us & he stated a large chunk of the Morton support were c***s and affected the younger players on a regular basis, as they were s*** scared to make a mistake for the thought of getting an almighty slating. That cannot be right?

Correct-it can't be easy to be doing your job to the best of your ability only to be regularly slagged off by eejits who couldn't hit a barn door from two yards with a beachball.

Anybody with half a brain can see that Sanny's assets outweigh his deficiencies, and our loss is East Fife's gain.
mortonjag 2008-01-17 14:38:19
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jan 17 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]384116[/snapback]
I wish you would never have came back to the board - Things were actually positive for a day or 2 laugh.gif

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I AM being positive-positively delighted that reality has dawned. I'm surely allowed to be positively disgusted that it took so long! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-17 14:42:39
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jan 17 2008, 02:38 PM) [snapback]384119[/snapback]
OR
[codebox]Look at me everyone , I'm back on-line and want some attention"[/codebox]

Hello my little angel-sorry to have upset you so early in the year. Are you still taking the pills?
mortonjag 2008-01-17 16:14:06
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jan 17 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]384153[/snapback]
So, when will it dawn on you that DR is not Abramovich?

I've known that for ages RH if you're talking money, but he still behaves like a tinpot dictator-n'est ce pas?
mortonjag 2008-01-17 16:24:17 What pleases me more than anything is that (I hope) we now have more competition for places. I'm not that worried about formations as long as the guys are giving 100% for 90 minutes every week. It's time Jim started to think more in terms of a squad-we were winning most of the time last year so he got off with not changing things around even when some players' form dropped badly, but this season's very different. Kevin Finlayson, for example, should definitely start on current form, despite being out in the cold for most of last term, whereas Spoonsy looks like he needs a wee rest.
mortonjag 2008-01-17 16:38:13
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Jan 17 2008, 04:08 PM) [snapback]384176[/snapback]
MortonJag??? Who cares wacko.gif

The Monkey cares, and it's Mortonjag if you please.

Any more questions? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-17 20:32:43
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Jan 17 2008, 04:55 PM) [snapback]384192[/snapback]
Are we on to a win on Saturday?

Spirits are high-the Monkey predicts a comfortable win with goals from Huffy and Leafy. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-17 20:55:07 Craig Thomson's up to more mischief??? mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-17 21:32:28
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jan 17 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]384320[/snapback]
Is he Alan Jenkins' agent?

Probably, though he claims to be a qualified liar lawyer.
mortonjag 2008-01-17 21:46:13
QUOTE(Toby @ Jan 17 2008, 09:38 PM) [snapback]384362[/snapback]
As a team progresses up the divisions it evolves. Certain players that did a decent job at one level aren't necessarily good enough for the next and are booted. unfortunately it's the way of the world and football's a cut throat business. the same thing happened at Gretna and Livingston as they progressed up the leagues. hopefully, as our progress is taking longer than Gretna's did and looking like it will take longer than Livingston's did we'll be in better shape to compete in the Spl if the club evolves slower.

In short, he wasn't good enough to cut it in the First Division, get over it.

Statements like that have a habit of coming back to haunt-IMO Sanny's talents were wasted by a club which on the Livvi showing wasn't good enough to cut it in the first division. Hopefully things are about to improve.
mortonjag 2008-01-17 21:54:38
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ Jan 17 2008, 09:49 PM) [snapback]384374[/snapback]
Are they not the same thing?

Of the Pishley variety-undoubtedly! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-17 22:07:02
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 17 2008, 09:56 PM) [snapback]384383[/snapback]
i like the post match patter upto about 10 pm. i also obviously like the signings and rumours carry on. but really - does anyone log in and read all the " i think this and u think that" keech day after day? it's as much use as getting a patronising reply from tom mcb. some people think this i think that blah blah fukn blah.

boring

there's some funny f***ers on here mind smile.gif

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Poor wee soul-you could always watch Eastenders or play yourself at noughts and crosses if you're so bored-did you just happen to log on by mistake?

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mortonjag 2008-01-17 22:11:57
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 17 2008, 10:03 PM) [snapback]384391[/snapback]
He might have signed the contract tonight like you said but he agreed to it this morning, the delay was because Dougie's suit was in the Dry Cleaners and would not be ready for collection until after 6pm.
You know DDF always got to look his best for the snappers. laugh.gif

Are we finally consigning him to the crocodiles?
mortonjag 2008-01-17 22:18:31
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 17 2008, 10:14 PM) [snapback]384407[/snapback]
Shouldn't we have made moves to strengthen this time last season , picking up pre contract agreements for the summer .
The influx of Gretna players would seem to be us taking advantage of someones misfortune . I don't have a problem with that .
I still believe we wasted money on some of those we brought in and some we kept on .
Now we have a team that picks itself s lets see if the manager is up to the task .

Don't you mean 'getting it right up that muddle headed eejit Mileson who f*cked our promotion chances two seasons ago. He saw himself as a budding local worthy and has proved to be the Village Idiot.
mortonjag 2008-01-17 22:31:42
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 17 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]384423[/snapback]
DDFR was busy dusting down his microphone .

when one of the May Hughes dancers crept up behind him.....
mortonjag 2008-01-17 22:45:53
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 17 2008, 10:31 PM) [snapback]384435[/snapback]
??? really pish reply there morton jag. i was just saying that there is so much flaps posted on here. your the guy with 12,000 posts on here ffs! all the best to u but i suspect u use posts as a proxy as to how many women u have screwed.
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I don't screw poxy women, I'll have you know-but you're correct of course-there are far too many small minds polluting our little rag those days-thank goodness for folks like you and me! wink.gif

Monkey and I are just off to bed, so we'll bid you goodnight and pleasant dreams. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-18 07:40:14
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jan 18 2008, 06:40 AM) [snapback]384548[/snapback]
Pot, Kettle, Black ?

GTF Cretin rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-18 07:42:43
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 18 2008, 06:50 AM) [snapback]384549[/snapback]
so true! and he's been taking me with him lately sad.gif tongue.gif

Weegie is a funny man-too many serious folk on here! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-18 07:50:13
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 17 2008, 10:55 PM) [snapback]384455[/snapback]
Will The Darroch be graced with the Monkey and his master's presence on Saturday Night unsure.gif

Sadly no, though he sends best wishes to all. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-18 07:52:45
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 18 2008, 07:46 AM) [snapback]384557[/snapback]
funniest guy on here, despite him being confused with his sexuality tongue.gif

Really- he told me only yesterday that he'd finally found sexual peace under a tree in his back garden. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-18 09:48:22 I've been off the forum for a couple of months, and I now find the pages are taking far longer to load-nothing to do with my browser-any explanation?
mortonjag 2008-01-18 09:53:34 Thanks gents-no it's nothing to do with my senility I assure you-I thought it might be my pishing filter but I switched that off and no difference.I've also tried firefox and explorer and still the same-is this an evil conspiracy?
mortonjag 2008-01-18 10:18:27
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 18 2008, 10:07 AM) [snapback]384608[/snapback]
Is that a new name for a colostomy bag? tongue.gif

No Weegie it's just a wee seive!
mortonjag 2008-01-18 10:47:50
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jan 18 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]384619[/snapback]
you will be really lucky to get a denist now if you arent registered with one, my daughter who is 6 and petrified of the dentist wasnt registered last year and the butcher at orangefield (galt) charged me 30 quid for an appointment for her, she sat in the chair for about 21 seconds then absolutely shiat herself and ran out the door! asked him for the 30 quid back and he told me no.

your best bet would be to call the health centre 724477 and they will more than likely see you today or send you out to a place at burns road, failing that the dental hospital in glasgow will see you 0141 211 9600.

good luck

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Just shows you shouldn't go to any old butcher-it's taken me ages to find one who makes a decent haggis, and you don't need an appointment. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-18 10:56:07 Everybody seems so wrapped up in transfer speculation that we seem to have forgotten!


We played well at Palmerston-the Monkey predicts a 2-0 victory with goals from Leafy and Huffy.
mortonjag 2008-01-18 11:10:02
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 18 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]384631[/snapback]
I'm hoping for a victory and that we have at least one debut player with Chris Miller filling the wide right slot for the suspended Finlayson.

If I knew who Huffy was, I could comment on whether he might score. If its Weatherson, you could be right given its his old club.

Those accountants and their lack of poetic empathy! wink.gif

HUFFY MCGUFFIE!
mortonjag 2008-01-18 11:12:12
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 18 2008, 11:05 AM) [snapback]384638[/snapback]
We Have A Game Tomorrow!

Excellent what is it? British bulldog, rounders. Tell me. Can i get a game?

Shove halfpenny, but Shoogly says he's skint.
mortonjag 2008-01-18 11:17:40
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jan 18 2008, 11:13 AM) [snapback]384646[/snapback]
i swear that guy galt gets a kick out of other peoples suffering! mad.gif

Is he a friend of Mr Rae?
mortonjag 2008-01-18 11:25:40
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 18 2008, 11:19 AM) [snapback]384650[/snapback]
Dear Doctor

I thought you meant Weatherson because you think he's in a huff over recent critcism.

I think I was happier when you were fitting kitchens!!

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I'm sure everybody was!
mortonjag 2008-01-18 13:32:50
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jan 18 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]384680[/snapback]
Yeh, but its written on papyrus. wink.gif

...by Shoogly's Mummy?
mortonjag 2008-01-18 13:37:35
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 18 2008, 12:54 PM) [snapback]384701[/snapback]
3-0 Russell, McGuffie and Stevenson.
DDFR comes onto the park before the game to make one of his legendary speeches and a gust of wind blows him away to Oz, where he sets up a sweetie factory and the munchkins all have terrible tooth decay.

......and nasty Newton, the Sydney butcher doubles his life's income in six months.
mortonjag 2008-01-18 13:44:12 So Jenkins wants to come-great-but wait-Gretna want MUNNY-well Mr Rae the ball's in your court it would seem-any chance you've learned a lesson from your previous blunders, or are we about to be gazumped by Hamilton? mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-18 13:47:40
QUOTE(El Duderino @ Jan 18 2008, 01:38 PM) [snapback]384717[/snapback]
I sphinx so...

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mortonjag 2008-01-18 15:16:57 Stu always gets mugged by the barging bullying centre forwards of which Doctor Deuchar is a classical example. Don't know why-he's no weakling-maybe just too clean a player! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-18 15:23:44
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jan 18 2008, 01:55 PM) [snapback]384730[/snapback]
If you read the Telegraph report, it's more likely that Jenkins wants money from Gretna you negative t***. mad.gif

Munny is wanted-correct? Over to Shoogly to seal the bargain-after all he's an astute businessman! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-18 15:26:44
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jan 18 2008, 03:01 PM) [snapback]384761[/snapback]
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Can you do me a favour Suda? Please dont quote the negative tool in your posts as the forum is so much better with this (below):-

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Cheers mate! tongue.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif Real Hoops-the guy who pops all his bills in the bin,and still believes in Santa Claus! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-18 15:29:39
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 18 2008, 03:24 PM) [snapback]384771[/snapback]
That game was in October. We beat St. Johnstone 1-0 towards the end of the season with Dougie Johnstone getting the goal. I'm pretty sure I remember that being considered the day we ended St. Johnstone's chances.

If I re-call that was an absolute nail biter of a game with both sides giving 110% for ninety minutes and we came out tops-I remember the great feeling of joy and relief when the final whistle went.
mortonjag 2008-01-18 15:49:26
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jan 18 2008, 03:42 PM) [snapback]384785[/snapback]
if the appointment itself was for me i wouldn't have had a grievance paying the 30 quid, but a 6 year old child, thats bang out of order! maybe he should set up a chair in Mr Binnie the butchers back shop, they could half the rent/rates etc - close to all public transport links as well - then he wouldn't need to charge kids 30 quid and people could also see that he truly is a butcher.....................

As if he wouldn't get enough off the nhs for treating the kid anyway! and obviously he had a spare appointment anyway if he could fit my daughter in that day - just total greed!

anyone biting???........................... laugh.gif

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Most dentists are greedy b*****ds, but blame years of NHS piecework-GP's have rapidly caught up since Kenneth Clarke f***ed up the system in 1990. I've been an advocate of a salaried service for years, but it's more than ever a case of money for items of service-do you imagine all those friendly wee reminder letters for check ups are meant to make you healthier? mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-18 16:10:50
QUOTE(Loveless @ Jan 18 2008, 04:08 PM) [snapback]384803[/snapback]
You'll only need this type of surgical removal in certain situations, usually the tooth will come out in one piece...

...frequently an outsider spread thickly with peanut butter?
mortonjag 2008-01-19 11:40:22
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Jan 18 2008, 07:38 PM) [snapback]384983[/snapback]
Forgive me MJ, but the monkey seems to have over-indulged over the festive period..? unsure.gif

Either that or you have new piccy and it hasn't updated yet tongue.gif

Aha-this is a picture of my simian sidekick and his wee pal 'Fing' about to set off to the football! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-19 11:43:55
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 18 2008, 08:14 PM) [snapback]385014[/snapback]
Has the monkey got an understudy

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His friend and partner in crime 'Fing'-we don't know what he/it is-somebody abandoned him/it at our doorstep and the Monkey took pity. He/it's been a Godsend though, as he/it goes out at night and burgles for us. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-19 11:46:52
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jan 18 2008, 08:25 PM) [snapback]385019[/snapback]
It's an age thing tongue.gif

Glad you understand! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-19 11:55:22
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 19 2008, 01:33 AM) [snapback]385248[/snapback]
Despite what I was told yesterday I now think this deal could be in serious doubt.

Jenkins has 18months of a contract to either fulfil, buyout or have bought out by a 3rd party.

This appears to be a major stumbliing block.

Didn't McLaren have a similar problem ??

But I was told Shoogly could have no influence in the deal! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-19 12:01:26
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 19 2008, 11:31 AM) [snapback]385376[/snapback]
Because Morton are under strict financial guidelines regarding recruitment.

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Euphemism of the season!!!


Shoogly's skint. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-19 12:03:55
QUOTE(Tooth & Nail @ Jan 19 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]385397[/snapback]
Just been listening to Jim McInally on the radio and the deal seems to be tied up, with both Morton and Alan Jenkins having shaken hands, Alan Jenkins just has to tie a few things up with Gretna now.

Jani Sturm and hope spring to mind.
mortonjag 2008-01-19 12:09:02
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jan 18 2008, 07:23 PM) [snapback]384977[/snapback]
If you're ever down, try McAsksie's in Wemyss Bay. Won several awards for their meat! ohmy.gif

TY-might just do that for Mr Burns' birthday next week.
mortonjag 2008-01-19 12:11:57 Fourteen already-how time flies! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-19 12:15:39 21 on the day Morton humped Q. of S. 2-0 and Weegie admitted he lied about those keys! Congratulations! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-19 12:20:01
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 19 2008, 12:18 PM) [snapback]385412[/snapback]
What's your fascination with the keys MJ unsure.gif

I'm just miffed that you're making me out to be a liar-you definitely said 'sexual peace' and I had both hearing aids in!
mortonjag 2008-01-19 12:23:33 Jimbo's a favourite of mine but until recently he went through a patch when he was pretty useless. Form comes and goes for all players. Managers, on the other hand, tend to be good or otherwise from one week to the next! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-19 13:16:53
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 19 2008, 12:33 PM) [snapback]385426[/snapback]
No, no, no MJ, not a liar. ohmy.gif Fabricator of the truth maybe tongue.gif Anyway have you checked the batteries wink.gif

Profuse apologies Weegie, the Monkey has confessed he stole them for his electric toothbrush.
mortonjag 2008-01-19 13:25:17
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 19 2008, 12:57 PM) [snapback]385439[/snapback]
The finances in all of this are easily sorted but require an upfront signing on fee from Morton to get over the hurdle.

My understanding is that Gretna do NOT want substantial money for Jenkins, they are on the brink of a world of hurt financially and just want their wage bill cleared - that is not the stumbling block.

The player does not want to take a cut in wages, and Morton have a wage structure to think about. Moving the deal forward requires either a basic wage of £500 over two years, and a signing on fee of £25,000, or £600 per week and a £15,000 signing on fee. This keeps the player whole to his current money for the remainder of his current contract, plus six months extra. It also means Morton can remain working within their wage constraints. I'm confident a deal will be struck but it looks like it might mean Dougie dipping into his coffers again.

The utilisation of Bosmans mean that Morton need to get used to inflated signing on fees, but this one is a no brainer to me. A player of Jenkins calibre will start be worth £10-£15k in two years time. We effectively get him for Cappielow wages, but with an upfront payment which we later recoup.

TonInDublin

Confirming what I've already been slated for suggesting-if Shoogly wants him enough, he should go out and get him. Jenkins is the sort of influence we desperately need right now (and have needed for several seasons), but Rae still gives the impression that he deals in players as if he were looking for discounted sugar for his boilers. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-20 13:40:33 I've been saying for three seasons we should punt the manager, and it's no comfort that the 80% who had total confidence in his ability have finally opened their eyes to his ineptitude, but there's only one man to blame for the current fiasco at Cappielow IMO and he's blissfully unaware that he's now destroying the club he claims to love as he churns out his stilted weekly prattle of 'Chairman's Notes', undoubtedly believing we hang on his every word.

'Don't you think those boys deserve the chance to take us forward', he asked, but he wasn't asking! He was, as usual, telling.

Rae has proved to be a clueless buffoon when it comes to running a football club, but nobody appears to have the balls to stand up to him. He released big Sanny, Midge, and others with the usual 'Nice Mr Rae' comments, when the truth is that he gives ne'er a f*ck. Stop pleasing the Shooglemeister and it's the kiss of death.

JM's getting all the flak right now, while Rae sits on his aged arse, comfortable in the knowledge that he can punt the manager at will, and deflect attention from himself, but he's the stubborn old goat who wouldn't let JM sign players in the summer during his protracted love affair with Paul McGowan. A club just promoted after struggling over the line, and we merely got Iain Russell and young Gardyne at the eleventh hour!!!

Who's the self satisfied clot who happily excludes the fans from information and news, but lectures to them in his 'Shoogly Peg' notes about not supporting the team vocally enough?

Well Mr Rae, you can flash those cheesy silent assassin wallies at us 'til you're blue in the face, and make all the excuses you like, but your crowds are relentlessly dwindling, and that Sir, is ultimately down to one man.

One final thought-where else are you going to get a manager who will have the patience of JM when you finally and inevitably punt him?

So here's my message to you. It's NEVER too late to admit you've been wrong-get to f*ck out of the dressing room, and let somebody else run the bloody club properly for you. For that you would receive genuine respect.
mortonjag 2008-01-20 13:56:47
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 19 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]385450[/snapback]
Just because it uses batteries and buzzes does not make it an electric toothbrush tongue.gif

Shame on you Sir-the Monkey is pure in heart!
mortonjag 2008-01-20 14:02:43 I have an itchy Willie.
mortonjag 2008-01-20 15:00:28 I don't have any expectations other than that we'll survive this season, with dwindling crowds. That's a sad reflection of the current structure of a potentially fine football club, which has evolved into the plaything of an ageing autocrat. If anything, I expect that the majority may finally take that on board when it's too late.
mortonjag 2008-01-20 15:09:23 One thing's for sure, the Scottish Cup's Rae's last chance to get any real cash this season. If we win on Wednesday (and especially if we get a decent draw thereafter) Jim will probably be around for the time being. If we go out with a performance like yesterday's or that at Livvi, the Shooglemeister may well bin him.
mortonjag 2008-01-20 15:29:45 It's always the same when we play badly-single out a scapegoat, so this week's rogue is Leafy.

Players' player of the year with an unfashionable club, but still not good enough for some myopes on the terraces-give the boy a f*ckin' break, and come to think of it, give him the f*ckin' ball where he CAN use it. We still have talent in the squad-maybe some day somebody will learn how to utilise it.
mortonjag 2008-01-20 15:32:56
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jan 20 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]386474[/snapback]
Are we not at home to QoS? unsure.gif

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Indeed we are ---oh dear! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-20 15:42:40
QUOTE(Caltonfan @ Jan 20 2008, 03:33 PM) [snapback]386498[/snapback]
peter was better in defence than harding and greacen but at this level thats still not good enough, he should be dropped to the bench but unfortunately we dont have any other options up front after allowing templeman and linn to leave.

We still haven't tried big Stu as a striker-let's face it he can get onto a ball and has scored several good headers, not to mention two or three well taken goals including a screamer at Brechin.

Am I kiddin'?

Well kind of!!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-20 16:02:17
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jan 20 2008, 03:58 PM) [snapback]386513[/snapback]
The way we are playing it isn't going to happen on Wednesday either.

Jantorno (if thats how you spell it can't be bothered checking, way too hungover) is going to run amock and probably run so many circles round Smith he will hit the deck gasping for air.....but don't worry as the Big Doc is stroking the ball into the net for his 2nd and Gretna's 4th he will stop onroute (cause lets face it, our defence is still s***e and he would have time) to resucitate Smith.

Not sure whether to add a mad.gif or a laugh.gif to that

Football's a funny old game they say-if history's anything to go on, we'll probably play out of our skins, tan the Village Bumpkins 3-0, and all will be well with the world until Saturday! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-20 16:03:45
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 20 2008, 04:01 PM) [snapback]386515[/snapback]
I don't think it's the problem of players playing in different roles within the team. ALL teams play players in different roles. Just look at McGuffie's comments when he joined saying he was played in various roles but prefers CM for instance.
Where McInally seems to get it wrong is the balance of the team. Sometimes the balance looks completely wrong, and that's when mistakes are made.

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mortonjag 2008-01-20 16:05:54
QUOTE(tolmie perms r bak @ Jan 20 2008, 03:03 PM) [snapback]386458[/snapback]
MCINALLY = PINNOCHIO

Correct-ask Geppetto Rae.
mortonjag 2008-01-20 16:13:50
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jan 20 2008, 04:10 PM) [snapback]386522[/snapback]
Yeh and the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse are providing the transport to the game too tongue.gif

That was supposed to be a secret!
mortonjag 2008-01-20 18:08:01
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 20 2008, 05:48 PM) [snapback]386641[/snapback]
Hail Hail, the Celts are Here!!

Is that any better Scapa? Mibbes if the players actually showed they knew how to play football, then we'd have something to shout about. People who go on about the fans making the team lose are obviously so caught up in Doogie's every word. If you believe that pish, did you know the moon's made of cheese? It really is, honest. I bet you'd believe it if Doogie wrote it in his programme notes though!!

Spot on-WE are the ones who are paying the money-we are entitled to expect something in return, and every time the boys have really turned it on, we've got right behind them. It's a sad reflection of Rae's ego and delusions that he blames the fans for his own wee glory trip going off course.
mortonjag 2008-01-20 21:00:52
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 20 2008, 08:41 PM) [snapback]386799[/snapback]
I got an abcess in my tooth and it's killing me MortonJag. Should Dougie Rae be held accountable for making sweeties?

What's your real reason for hating him? Did he knick yer boyfriend off you in high school or something?

Do you know what an abscess is RSBH? Well I'll tell you. It's an encapsulated concentration of pus, and the only truly successful treatment is lancing or incision with removal of the putrefying mess.

Now if I could just find such a simple cure for the putrefying mess at GMFC, I'd sure apply it right now.

As for my hating the Shooglemeister-sure-I hate what he's doing to OUR club, but I don't hate the man. The monkey and I are loving creatures. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-20 21:08:38
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 20 2008, 07:05 PM) [snapback]386709[/snapback]
Agree with all that's said on this thread. Just one question though, and it's not a dig at anyone, will you all be there at the fans rally to say the same things to his face?? I certainly hope so because it's about time DDFR and JM got the message.

I will most certainly be there-missed last year's because of the premature arrival of a grandchild, and I fully intend to ask polite but probing questions, not that I expect anything back except 'Fudgy Wudgys'. The Monkey wants to come too, but he goes to bed early, and anyway, Shoogly's picture scares him to death. He calls him 'That bad man', though I've no idea where he got that from. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-20 21:17:17
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 20 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]386808[/snapback]
Even tho's he's been playing poorly I thought McLaughlin was still looking to get involved in the game. He wasn't hiding away and he covered infront of the defence well even if his distrobution was at it's recent level (fairly gash).

I wonder why guys like Scotty, McAllister or Finlayson don't leather guys like Weatherson, Stevenson or McGuffie at times. Why should they have to do twice the work because their team mates are hiding away from games?

Scott McLaughlin seems to have had his football coached OUT of him at Cappielow. When he came at first, I really rated the boy, but he's turned into a boring sideways or backwards passing machine of late. Yesterday was different-the boy got pissed off with the rest of them, and made a couple of really incisive runs-just a pity he didn't finish one off with a cracking goal. Credit where due.
mortonjag 2008-01-20 21:22:09
QUOTE(Deego @ Jan 20 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]386846[/snapback]
I don't think the reason for no rally in December was anything to do with poor results, s***e transfers or whatever. I'd imagine it will go ahead as long as no-one makes an arse of it again.
If you are there I demand you introduce yourself. Every week I'm looking about wondering who you are. How sad. blink.gif

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Do you think I'm going to arrive with a wee name badge sporting 'Mortonjag'? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-20 21:25:19 I have been alone with a Spice Girl in her bedroom!
mortonjag 2008-01-20 21:35:24
QUOTE(davidh1874 @ Jan 20 2008, 07:37 PM) [snapback]386744[/snapback]
From Inverclyde Now:-

POLICE Pursuit -- NUMEROUS police units, including a helicopter, were involved in the pursuit of a vehicle in the East End of Greenock this evening. Police confirmed an arrest had been made but could provide no further information on the nature of the incident.

Seems they apprehended a very tall man driving a very small car, and confiscated a Kalashnikov and table tennis bat.
mortonjag 2008-01-20 21:46:31
QUOTE(SkinTON @ Jan 20 2008, 09:41 PM) [snapback]386870[/snapback]
You should have a doctor to take at look at that. tongue.gif

TY, but it's disappeared! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-20 22:13:48
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 20 2008, 10:02 PM) [snapback]386884[/snapback]
The Doctor will tell him the same thing he told Sean the other day, it always itches on the run up, then falls off on your 40th birthday. wink.gif

'How are the mighty fallen'!


There again I've always had good reason to believe in the resurrection of the dead! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-20 22:22:24
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jan 20 2008, 10:17 PM) [snapback]386896[/snapback]
No a dog collar tongue.gif

Ha-now there's an idea-I could come dressed up as Rev I.M. Jolly-Shoogly would be raging that somebody else got a wee shot at the preaching, but he surely wouldn't dare to chuck out a man of the cloth, especially when he saw him with a poke of Buchanans' toffees sticking out his back pocket!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 07:13:06 Last season I said several times that JM would have been as well pulling names out of a hat and little seems to have changed. What matters on Wednesday more than the selection is that the players are up for this one. How do we achieve that?

Fraid I haven't a f*cking clue! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 07:34:52
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 21 2008, 02:59 AM) [snapback]386978[/snapback]
Indeed. If we set the player that were at our disposal at the start of the season out in the right positions and formations, we would be comfortably in midtable. If we had added a guy like...erm, McFarlane...as well as a full back or two, we would be capable of pushing for top four, at least. I have no problem with any of our usual eleven, apart from one. All of those 10 have the ability to compete in this league with the right guidance.

I agree entirely, and re. your McFarlane comments it breaks my heart that many fans have been screaming for two or three experienced motivating players for THREE SEASONS, yet the powers that unfortunately be, have stubbornly indulged their own little fantasy football fads

The villain of the piece was willing to shell out 100k on wee Gowsa!!!!!

I'm not saying Gowsa is a bad player, but I ask you-100k on another wean when our lack of experience had already cost us two seasons-THAT WAS CRIMINAL BEHAVIOUR IMO.

So here we are, yet again with the transfer deadline looming-yet again with rumours, and rumours of rumours, and yet again with very little cheer. Sure we've got an unfit Smith short term, and I've high hopes he'll prove a longer term asset, and McGuffie's here, but he's a quiet lad. You might say we've strengthened the squad, but Linn and Sanny have gone, and Deano's out on loan, and--FFS--- we STILL only have one registered goalkeeper.

Time and patience are rapidly running out for Mr Rae-he CAN'T have it both ways-either he runs the club successfully by himself or he has to hand over the reins, and if that also means inward investment he MUST take that on board. After all a club without fans is dead.

Ask Mr Mileson! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 07:44:51
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Jan 21 2008, 06:24 AM) [snapback]386988[/snapback]
What chance does the man have when Harding is punting 70 yard passes to him everytime he gets the ball, the guy's a terrible footballer.

Harding and Russell are, IMHO, both good footballers!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 08:59:09 So David McGregor's to be the next whipping boy!!!

That's very unfair-he's played for us through thick and thin, struggling back after nasty injuries, and so far as I'm concerned he's one of the true professionals in our squad.

I DON'T think he's a natural left back or central defender, and obviously with the competition, he struggles to get a midfield position. Whether he's first division standard or not has yet to be proven, but he's just another victim of JM's 'mix and match' charade, and in no way does he alone deserve the blame for our poor defensive record.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 09:02:42
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Jan 21 2008, 12:17 AM) [snapback]386950[/snapback]
I have just returned from a snowboarding holiday in Italy where I took a bad fall and broke my Coccyx!

Commiserations my old friend. By the way, we just say 'c*ck' up here!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 09:20:40 'International spicy food day'.


No kiddin'!!!


What will they think of next? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 09:50:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 21 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]387019[/snapback]
International Toilet Roll in the Fridge Day would be the obvious one!

Used or otherwise?
mortonjag 2008-01-21 09:56:03
QUOTE(franco @ Jan 21 2008, 09:46 AM) [snapback]387021[/snapback]

...unconfirmed reports suggest that the driver was a thirteen year old joyrider from Paisley.

The cost to the taxpayer has yet to be computed, but is estimated to run into many thousands of pounds. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 10:00:40
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 21 2008, 09:47 AM) [snapback]387022[/snapback]
Yes and then he makes further mistakes by letting go one of the few players that can cope well with the first division and has arguably been our player of the season so far - Chris Millar. All this pish about sending his agent a note is ludicrous - what next? Maybe he sends his young orphan servant he took in to deliver the next note and he never comes back as he's kidnapped en route by the local gangmaster. Ever heard of the phone or emails Dougie?

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What is it they say about total power and corruption? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 10:14:16 I just had a wee glance at our squad listing on the 'Official' web site. As always, it's way out of date, but even allowing for changes in personnel, we apparently have TWO forwards in the whole squad, and one of them doesn't even get a regular game.

The line up of Adamson, Stevenson, Caven, McGraw and Wilson comes to mind.

Why do I want to cry? sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 10:19:11
QUOTE(El gofer @ Jan 21 2008, 10:07 AM) [snapback]387029[/snapback]
From a reliable source. Jenkins aint coming. Money involved and Gretna. Something about an 18 month contract.

Hey ho! 10 days to go.....

Maybe the lad just wants to be certain of playing in the first division next season.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 10:41:12
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 21 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]387036[/snapback]
Wrong. Benny Boy's disliked McGregor as a defender for as long as I remember. I only know this as I completely agree with him - McGregor is an absolutely useless centre half. He get's turned inside out by absolutely everyone. I think he's potentially a decent midfielder although we'll probably never know.

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So he can't get a place in midfield, he's a 'useless' centre half, he's not the quickest, and he's right footed.

Mr McInally, or should that be McInrae, however, has had him as an 'ever present' since he returned from injury!

For what it's worth I agree with your sentiments about the boy's ability, but blaming him for an 'implosion' in our defence is laughable, and in any case it might be better pointing fingers at others who are NOT apparently pulling their weight at the moment.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 10:46:02
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 21 2008, 10:42 AM) [snapback]387047[/snapback]
I've had sex with more girls than most of my close friends have put together.

Try using underarm deodorant!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 11:00:41
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 21 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]387049[/snapback]
You have no friends and feel lonely?
Yer cutting onions?
Someone's playing "Gloomy Sunday" by Billie Holliday?
You can't remember if Dick van Dyke was in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang or Merry Poppins and it's really annoying you?

Don't worry. He's in both.

Hmm-I wonder if that expression's PC those days, not that it's something I really fancy doing.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 11:13:02
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 21 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]387069[/snapback]
Dr Deuchar owns Stewart Greacen, look at the number of goals he's scored against him for both EF and Gretna!
Gilbride is on loan at Stenhousemuir, Shields is apparently been released.

Well that makes good sense-why did we ever sign a full back in the first place-let's face it-like wingers, they don't exist in the JM book of football! mad.gif wacko.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 11:16:34 I am right handed but left eyed.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 11:19:48
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 21 2008, 11:15 AM) [snapback]387071[/snapback]
Here to please Mr Jag wink.gif

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Please come back!

In those days we had more crosses into the box in one match than we've had all season and I'm NOT joking.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 11:27:35
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 21 2008, 11:24 AM) [snapback]387078[/snapback]
Before my time I'm afraid but I did have the pleasure of Joe Cavens company on a pre season tour up North a few years ago, I think the Morton fans who met Joe in the Keith Social Club after the game will remember that night for ever.

Joe was one of the most underrated and best target men we ever had-without him McGraw would not have been nearly so prolific, and he knocked in a fair few himself.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 11:30:09
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 21 2008, 11:25 AM) [snapback]387079[/snapback]
I play bowls and have been to two county finals in the last four years.
Well it's interesting to me.

You're biased.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 11:33:45
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 21 2008, 11:29 AM) [snapback]387083[/snapback]
Def not Brockville, it does remind me of Firs Park, but when did E Stirling come in to existence as the photo was taken 64, 65.

If I'm not mistaken, that was the very season when they were merged with Clydebank.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 11:53:37 I have been cross questioned by Joe Beltrami. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 11:57:44
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Jan 21 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]387094[/snapback]
He (JM) has just signed his Granny on a 2 year deal. Apparently she zimmers down the left wing like no other winger. Apparently JM is quoted as saying "I told the fans I was going to sign some experience and believe me, my 92 year old Granny has nothing but experience under her belt" And the bonus is that he got her on a Bosman freebie and she only wants a couple of digestive biscuits and brew at half time as her appearance fee each week.

Not a bad signing by all accounts?

That's what JM claims, but the truth is that Shoogly has always had a thing for older women.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 12:09:48
QUOTE(craigeton @ Jan 21 2008, 11:19 AM) [snapback]387075[/snapback]
The point made on the players is absolute crap. The players we have here are as good if not better than any in this division. The management and coaching (or lack of) is the real issue here.
As an example , when we played Q.O.S. at Palmerston we went 1 down early on but we played football on the deck and passed the ball around, we not only won the game but it was enjoyable to watch.
On Saturday Mcinally had the players hoofing the ball up the park to nobody. The result being a doing and crap to watch into the bargain.
Unfortunately as Mcinally is Raes yes man I think he is here for as long as he wants to be.

I'd agree that most of our squad is technically up to first division standard. What we do lack seems to be an instinctive will to win-especially when the chips are now. JM's tactics and selections often border on the bizarre, but surely you can't blame, for example, the fiasco at Livingston, entirely on him. Even last season when we were winning most matches we repeatedly contrived to make things difficult for ourselves. The problem, IMO, lies as much in the players heads as their feet.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 13:25:23 At this stage we’re not talking about me putting money into the club.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 13:43:43
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jan 21 2008, 12:50 PM) [snapback]387141[/snapback]
We have, we've agreed terms but it's his release from Gretna that's the sticking point. If he doesn't come to Morton it won't be down to problems at our side.

It depends how you look at it. On the one hand you could say he's become too expensive-on the other we have a new director who apparently 'loves the Ton', and is worth some £70 million, but won't be injecting any cash at this stage.

I'm totally mystified as to the agenda-he's more Crawford than Papa's age, 'has known the Raes for many years', and is personally worth some ten times Golden Casket's annual turnover, yet he's only going to play 'Devil's advocate' with Shoogly.

FFS the old bod only has to log on here and he'll find 'Devil's advocates' aplenty!!! As I said before this doesn't add up at all.


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mortonjag 2008-01-21 13:52:04
QUOTE(El gofer @ Jan 21 2008, 12:29 PM) [snapback]387118[/snapback]
I dont actually think he is Rae's yes man.
I think he is the one picking the team and is also the one organising training. The vast majority of players are his. The formation he puts out is his. The motivation side is his.

I obviously can see some criticisms of Rae's running of the club but at least he is looking to remedy this by bringing in Alisdair Donald to oversee the running of the club.
To say Rae is the real villain of the piece is taking a personal vendetta a bit too far though Mr Jag.

Rae is patently the villain of the piece, if for nothing else, for hanging on to his tame manager, and please (since you seem to know more than everybody else) explain exactly what 'overseeing' will mean.


Personal vendetta!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 14:00:01 I'd bring Ian McColl back tomorrow, but he's only one of many. Even Gordon Chisholm showed on Saturday that he was able to get the best out of his players and make sensible tactical changes. Gus McPherson's a good manager, but he's with that HUGE club up the road! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 14:08:40
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 21 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]387194[/snapback]
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Kat Kit is a smelly sock? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 14:14:03
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jan 21 2008, 02:11 PM) [snapback]387200[/snapback]
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I actually think our support deserve a degree of credit here. We're on the back of a horrendous run and still the crowds are relatively constant.

I also guarantee we'll be the 12th man at Fir Park.

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Aye but will we outshout the fifty or so home fans? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 14:21:09 I once saw a fox running across the pitch at Cappielow, and have seen many dogs do the same-no Shoogly, not your wee dancing girls.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 14:33:08
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 21 2008, 02:26 PM) [snapback]387211[/snapback]
was talkin about this last night. provincial clubs like our should always have a mix of young and old.

Agreed-look at St Johnstone last season, and I reckon they'd have given the SPL a better shot than the now played out Villagers.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 14:38:17
QUOTE(franco @ Jan 21 2008, 02:32 PM) [snapback]387216[/snapback]
I am right handed but left footed. That's useful if, just on the off chance, you want to kick someone while shaking their hand.

That's an interesting combination franco-which is your dominant eye, (and I apologise in advance if you're registered blind, wear a prosthesis, or are Cyclopean) ?
mortonjag 2008-01-21 14:40:55
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 21 2008, 02:34 PM) [snapback]387218[/snapback]
what is this carry on about janne and marko? what would they now about the current state of play in the scottish first division? we dont HAVE to have ex players! dick campbell would do better than jim m - don't care what anyone says.

i'd like to see duffy or wee robertson but sure there's more if i could be arsed thinking at the mo

Bryan will be on with his laughing Smiley, but I have to agree with you!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 14:51:36
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 21 2008, 02:49 PM) [snapback]387226[/snapback]
he knows how to win a play - off for a start. that might come in handy

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mortonjag 2008-01-21 15:43:35
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jan 21 2008, 03:19 PM) [snapback]387243[/snapback]
Anybody that suggests Dick Campbell is off their head. Why not check out what every single Partick fan has to say about his last spell at the club and the damage he did behind the scenes as well as being s*** on the park. Just ludicrous.

He has a record of at least some success with limited resources-oh and BTW just check out what 'every single' Ton fan is currently saying about JM. The point is not that Campbell would be the choice manager-simply that he could do better than JM!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 15:48:45
QUOTE(hoodless @ Jan 21 2008, 03:44 PM) [snapback]387250[/snapback]
as a "supporter" i'm afraid i'm not going to stand and watch that pish without voicing my opinion. I wasn't booing him like others when he tried to score from about 35 yards out, but when he started mouthing back i certainly let him know what i thought about him.

He has a wee tool and hopefully i won't need to watch him much longer.

I don't think the size of players' appendages should upset fans.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 15:55:19
QUOTE(franco @ Jan 21 2008, 03:08 PM) [snapback]387237[/snapback]
No it's ok, i'm from the Port.

I've got a dominant left eye, although due to shortsightedness 'dominant' sounds like a gross exagerration. Am i special, or is it just my kids that think that?

I've got 2 brothers, one of whom is right handed and right footed, the other is left handed and left footed although he plays golf (and possibly all racket sports) right handed. I guess these things ain't hereditary? or does the post man have a lot to answer for?



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They are hereditary, but not in a dominant way, so the Postie gets off the hook! I'm right handed and left eye dominant. I was right footed until at the age of nineteen I had orthopaedic surgery to both legs, resulting in them being in 'Stookie' for three months. I had to 're-learn' how to walk, kick, etc., and discovered I was equally good with my left and right foot, though my standard of football was still pretty average!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 16:07:56
QUOTE(El gofer @ Jan 21 2008, 03:52 PM) [snapback]387252[/snapback]
At what point have I even nearly suggested that i know more than anyone else?
I got the information about Donald from another thread on this site. Check it yourself.
I was merely pointing out that it is a positive move and surely since a number of people have been questioning Rae's hands on approach, you among them rather vehemently, he should at least be credited for this. By the way, I am not looking at this through rose tinted specs as I have been among those who are not too pleased with the way on which the club has been run previously. I am also starting to think that McInally has taken us as far as he can.

As regards the personal vendetta remark, I dont think its the first time something like that he been suggested. You must realise that by making reference to the teams owner in a negative way in the vast majority of your posts, so people are going to think along these lines.

If this is not the case then I stand corrected and henceforth offer my sincerest apologies.

I can't see an ounce of logic in that statement. For a start I don't even mention Mr Rae 'in the vast majority of my posts', though I consistently criticise him where relevant, in the same way as, for example, Colkitto criticises Wendy Alexander. Does that mean that HE has a personal vendetta against her?

Implicit in your comment is the notion that Shoogly does not deserve my criticism, or at least that my criticism is excessive, yet it seems that the majority of posters are coming around to my way of thinking. Maybe in another couple of months they too will have developed personal vendettas! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 16:11:26
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 21 2008, 04:00 PM) [snapback]387258[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-01-21 16:19:13
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Jan 21 2008, 04:05 PM) [snapback]387265[/snapback]
I'm right-handed and mostly right-footed, but I play snooker and pool left-handed smile.gif

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Guess we mustn't then ask what you use your right hand for!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 16:33:21
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jan 21 2008, 04:21 PM) [snapback]387281[/snapback]
That's exactly how I see it Scott, wonder if Dougie knows this, or maybe if he just wants to reduce the financial burden on himself and Golden Casket. I would be very surprised if he wasn't a substantial shareholder within a year.

....and therein lies a possible problem-his assets hugely exceed Mr Rae's, but will the latter ever allow him to become the majority shareholder within his lifetime?

There's no guarantee that he would be good for the club of course-caution is always the watchword in those situations, but he undoubtedly has the potential of a Mileson, and unlike Gretna, we are a viable proposition.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 16:38:19
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jan 21 2008, 04:24 PM) [snapback]387283[/snapback]
On Saturday while you lot were at Scappa I built a Fort in the living room using chairs, cushions, blankets and duvets.

It was a cracker.

Broke my heart when the kids wrecked it tongue.gif

Send them to Aunt Matilda's for a holiday!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 20:20:38
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 21 2008, 05:34 PM) [snapback]387322[/snapback]
pretty poor sad.gif

scottish football is a funny one cos there aint a lot of money to be made but there is no way we don't have the potential of ANY team outwith the main 4 cities in the land. hopefully we can move on with some help from this guy - financially or otherwise.

20 years outwith the top flight is way too long for a team from the 6th biggest conurbation in scotland

Absolutely, and something I've stated repeatedly, only to be shouted down by cries of derision from clowns with little ambition and no vision. Properly structured and managed we could have a nice little earner down at the Tail O' the Bank. In fact, had my good friend of the pony tail and brown fingers taken over here when Shoogly did, we'd probably be sitting above the Midden in the SPL right now. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 20:27:27
QUOTE(El gofer @ Jan 21 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]387291[/snapback]
Again I think there is a difference between criticising and putting your bit in in all posts.
If you are going to have wee digs at my posts in a rather patronising way then I will do the same. Read the post again. I said that I have been critical of the way that Rae has run the club. I will acknowledge when he has done something positive and I think this is.

The last line of the highlighted part should have read "some people" not "so people". What do you not understand about it since you said it makes no sense?

...do you think I'm a bloody mind reader-that makes all the difference in the world-'SO people' suggests the perceived general response, while 'SOME people' means something entirely different, and BTW I didn't mean to sound patronising. huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 20:41:17
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jan 21 2008, 05:31 PM) [snapback]387320[/snapback]
Must be a sub-conscious thing then cause as El Gofer says it's rare that any of your posts escape without making some reference to Raemanov, Toothrotter, Sugar daddy, Fudgy Wudgies or Shoogly Woogly. rolleyes.gif

An example of your obsession is your joke about the May Hughes dancers as Dougies Dogs. I know you were making a joke but it's still a pretty despicable comment.

[Oh no, I've criticised the Jag, tin hat on]

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...and if you're going to criticise the Jag, get your facts right-of all your little nicknames listed above, the only one I claim as mine is 'Fudgy Wudgys'- (spelled correctly a la Golden Casket)!

Now I challenge you to back up your statement with a proper scientific analysis of a statistically significant random sample of my posts on both forums.

It so happens that at the moment, as during the closed season, Rae deserves to be the focal point of criticism. I will give credit when due and was one of the few who praised and backed his complaint about Craig Thomson-a matter about which I am still in communication with the SFA.

If you find my puerile little joke about the dancers so despicable, I'm surprised you don't permanently go about in your tin hat AND body armour! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 21:00:17
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jan 21 2008, 07:44 PM) [snapback]387444[/snapback]
Yuk! You're Back! rolleyes.gif

Correct madam-would you like my recipe for Keech Lorraine?
mortonjag 2008-01-21 21:03:58
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 21 2008, 07:09 PM) [snapback]387414[/snapback]
i've been told that i am a descendant of william kidd, but i am sceptical.

then again, he was a totally s***e pirate, so maybe it's possible.

any relation to an arse bandit?
mortonjag 2008-01-21 21:10:38 I 'lost' my car after the cup tie at Dundee this season-trudged around for ages, and was getting pretty desperate as my mobile and cards were in the glove compartment and I had about two quid on me! It was getting dark, and in desperation I went back to the Charlie Cooke lounge at Dens. Not only did they give me a free drink to warm me up, but a nice gentlemen then drove me around the area in his car until we found mine.

I was so bloody relieved that (most uncharacteristically) I shook his hand saying 'I could kiss you' at which he disappeared like snow off a dyke. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 21:16:45
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jan 21 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]387474[/snapback]
Why do I feel like I've escaped lightly? You're clearly mellowing cool.gif

A proper scientific analysis of your posts would most likely see you commited, I don't need that on my conscience tongue.gif

Reminds me of the old Woody Allen joke...

this guy goes to a psychiatrist and says, "Doc, uh, my brother's crazy; he thinks he's a chicken." And, uh, the doctor says, "Well, why don't you turn him in?" The guy says, "I would, but I need the eggs."

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Patient--'Doctor I keep dreaming my Willy's covered in crumbs'.

Psychiatrist--'You're f*cking crackers'.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 21:22:23
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jan 21 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]387508[/snapback]
That how it appears to me, and doubtless many others on this Board. mad.gif

A man sees what he wants to see and disregards the rest.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 21:36:18
QUOTE(tondaft @ Jan 21 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]387511[/snapback]
Totally agree mcgregor was amazing at firhill and is excellent every week

Don't get carried away-what Davie does well he does well, but at left back he's been skinned time after time leaving us vulnerable-just as Spoonsy was last season. The best performance I've seen at left back in recent times came from Dean Keenan, with Alex Walker putting in a couple of fair shifts. The problem seems to be that JM thinks he can build success from utility players-we don't have full backs or wingers at Cappielow it seems, and I'm told young Shields has been allowed to leave!!!


MADNESS.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 21:39:49
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jan 21 2008, 06:10 PM) [snapback]387358[/snapback]
The biggest criticism Jags fans had of Dick Campbell was that he never played players in their correct position.

He's just McInally with a bunnet and big teeth.

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I could swear I once saw Campbell jumping about like a flea with a bunnet and big teeth-JM hasn't quite reached that level yet!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 21:42:34
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 21 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]387514[/snapback]
I think I have some sort of Dr Dolittle type powers. In my house I have a dog, a hamster, fish, a wild mouse which I found trapped in a crisp packet (I plan to release him when the weather changes), two deer who regularly visit the back garden, a squirrel who raids the nutballs in the front garden, moles in the back garden and a few birds nesting in the eaves.

...gagged and bound I assume.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 21:45:39
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 21 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]387509[/snapback]
You should have sent the Monkey out to look for it tongue.gif

That was the problem Willow-he was at a Resident's Committee meeting that night. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 22:03:15
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 21 2008, 09:46 PM) [snapback]387538[/snapback]
My boycott is not because the results are bad.

It's because Dougie will do feck all to remove that clown of a manager we have and even today he still shat out of sacking him mad.gif

Crowds falling is maybe the only way he'll do something about it.

I noticed the folk that have said they're going are Season Ticket holders and see no point in not going as they've already paid for the games.

I wonder if them same folk would still be going if they had to pay in for the rest of the season blink.gif

Most of us have watched the Ton through bad patches, but what's so bloody frustrating this time around is that we COULD be doing so much better, and aye Willow, it's getting a tad wearying.

My brother is even more intense about the Ton than me, but when I said to him after Saturday's game-'Still going to Motherwell then'?-he shrugged his shoulders and said in a very resigned way- 'I guess so'

It's got to the stage where half the time you feel as though you're going out of duty and loyalty rather than because you expect to be entertained, and if guys decide they've had enough, I fully understand.

For a man of his apparent commercial experience, the Chairman demonstrates inordinate naivety when it comes to putting/keeping bums on seats!!!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 22:07:43
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jan 21 2008, 09:59 PM) [snapback]387562[/snapback]
john robertson is a good shout. seems like the kinds that would tell dougie to get to f*** out of the dressing room, and kick under performing players arses

Aye Blue-but for that very reason he probably wouldn't even be interviewed-that's my biggest worry re JM's ultimate departure-where are we going to get the genius who can make the Chairman THINK he's in charge, but still run the ship to his own plan?
mortonjag 2008-01-21 22:11:49
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 21 2008, 09:52 PM) [snapback]387549[/snapback]
Was that held in The Monkey House tongue.gif

That had been pre booked for a Council meeting so they just had it down the pub.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 22:19:31
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 21 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]387588[/snapback]
I can't believe you'd encourage drinking on a School Night tongue.gif

I didn't exactly encourage it-when I left for Dundee he was sitting doing his homework with that little angelic smile on his face-I should have known something was afoot!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 22:36:19
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Jan 21 2008, 10:24 PM) [snapback]387605[/snapback]
Incidentally, the area is riddled with sectarianism. Absolutely rife with it dry.gif
At the cup game there last season I twice overheard conversations (one between women!) saying they didn't know who Morton were, "probably just some *potential ethnic slur removed* team" and such like. The mouthfuls they received for it nearly sparked some fisticuffs, the women involved again unsure.gif

Edit - unsaid word begins with F and is derrogatory to Catholics dry.gif

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Of course it is just like the rest of the West Central belt of Scotland, but Motherwell itself is, in my experience, no better or worse than Greenock.

Larkhall-a few miles south east-now THAT'S a different story!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 22:38:04 My ex wife taught Derek McInnes!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 22:54:55 Depends what you mean by famous-I've met several international footballers (Willie Henderson's family were patients, as was Jinky's sister, and I knew Jim Baxter, and sadly had the task of issuing his death certificate. Also met Andy Roxburgh in a professional capacity when he was Scotland manager.

I've also treated Neil Sedaka and Melanie Brown.

Used to be in a group who drank in the Salmon Leap in Drymen when Billy Connolly lived there and many a time he had us in stitches, though he could be a dour big c*nt too!

I frequently see Miss Piggy since she retired from the Muppets-she goes under the alias of Bernadette Murphy, and lives right across the landing from us. I don't think she has a clue that we know who she really is.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 23:01:46
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 13 2008, 10:22 PM) [snapback]382135[/snapback]
Don't know who you are but indeed my brother was a BB officer, so sounds like you know who I am.

You need to intro yourself the next time you see me.

Funny how BB officer is quite respectable where SS officer ain't!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 23:09:34
QUOTE(Iamdiscostu @ Jan 21 2008, 11:06 PM) [snapback]387657[/snapback]
My sister went to school with him, Castlehead High School in Pishley, apparently he was a posing c#nt even then.

As for something else about myself, I work on a boat but I can't swim and 5 months ago the boat sank, but it was on my time off, thank fk.

Can't comment on that-all she said was that he was good at football and rubbish at English!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 23:15:23
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Jan 21 2008, 11:09 PM) [snapback]387661[/snapback]
I have now spent the past three nights without sleep due to a fracture in my back ............... Yes, it is foo**ng painful!

As I am wide awake and appear to be having little chance of sleep again I just wondered what other injuries etc people had suffered - bad enough to cause them severe pain and discomfort?

Mine was caused by a snowboarding accident and required admission to an Italian hospital in Livigno for numerous tests, scans and Xrays. Followed by a 5 hour coach transfer from resort to airport, 2 hour flight to Manchester and then a 4 hour car drive back home. Sh1t that was an experience I never want to repeat.

Won't stop me boarding though just as soon as I am fit again.

Not good enough-what have they got you on-bloody paracetamol? I take it you're off work, and I'd strongly recommend alcohol in sufficiency if the NHS is letting you down so badly. By all means call a doctor out MT-you wouldn't believe the crap I used to be called to! If you're genuinely in so much pain, you've a right to some relief.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 23:22:21
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Jan 21 2008, 10:37 PM) [snapback]387623[/snapback]
From my experience, short as it was, it is indeed worse.

I think you were very unfortunate-don't let those brief encounters colour your judgement!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 23:28:43
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Jan 21 2008, 11:22 PM) [snapback]387673[/snapback]
Cheers mate, I am on Co-codamol 30/500mg and Ibuprofen 400mg. Spoke to Dr today as I could only get a telephone consultation and he has given me more of the same pain killers. They do keep the pain at bay but only for about 1 and a half hours at best of times and as you will know can only take these every 8 hours!!!!!!!

The problem is I can't sit down. I can only stand or lie down and even then I only have to turn awkward while trying to sleep and BANG - frigging painful as sin.

You can take two of those every six hours, and though I'm being naughty, I gather you're a big chap so popping an extra couple at bedtime shouldn't do much harm. Pity you were not prescribed a muscle relaxant like diazepam short term. Anyway I wasn't joking about the alcohol, but take no responsibility for advice given on our little rag!

Good luck.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 23:38:34
QUOTE(KATKIT @ Jan 21 2008, 11:31 PM) [snapback]387684[/snapback]
If youre a Doctor you may have worked with my dad in the 60s he was a Doctor in Greenock.

Not Dr Katkit!!!


laugh.gif Only joking-I didn't graduate 'til the early seventies, and only once worked briefly as a locum in Greenock for a Dr Henderson who was also Police Surgeon. He had a pokey wee surgery up near the Ravenscraig stadium, and always played a radio in the waiting room so the patients couldn't hear his consultations next door!!!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 23:46:31
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 21 2008, 11:42 PM) [snapback]387699[/snapback]
But - I am just a poor boy and my story's seldom told!

Don't let them score Mr Robinson, Shoogly needs that more than you can know!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 23:50:41
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jan 21 2008, 11:47 PM) [snapback]387707[/snapback]
So Doc, just how many bad Dr Dr jokes did you come across in your practicing years ? You have 2 minutes to list them starting now. laugh.gif

Was it Lee Even's who once said "Why do they what a Doctor does practicing? I don't want them practicing I want them to know what the **** they are doing"

Best I ever heard-and it's true-a chap once came in, and when I asked how I could help, he exclaimed-'It's ma heid Doctor-it's been oan an aff fur weeks'!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 23:54:29
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jan 21 2008, 11:51 PM) [snapback]387714[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-01-21 23:56:22
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jan 21 2008, 11:52 PM) [snapback]387715[/snapback]
dislocated my shoulder when i was 13, pops out at least 5 times a year now!

dislocated thumbs

torn ligaments in both my ankles

one broken arm at the elbow - courtesy of my brother - do you remember?????? (hoping he reads this thread now)

my hand got jammed in a door when i was 4, scarred for life - lucky to still have the hand apparently - could give jeremy beadle a run for his dosh!

not quite sure which was the worst, these are the ones that stick out!

What a coincidence-I suffered an identical problem with my penis.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 23:59:45
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Jan 21 2008, 11:58 PM) [snapback]387722[/snapback]
and he manages to dribble more these days wink.gif

Sir Stanley mortonjag!
mortonjag 2008-01-22 00:01:57
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 21 2008, 11:58 PM) [snapback]387723[/snapback]
w**k Stains ohmy.gif

not if you wipe it up quickly.
mortonjag 2008-01-22 00:05:18
QUOTE(davidh1874 @ Jan 22 2008, 12:02 AM) [snapback]387728[/snapback]
I stubbed my wee toe on the leg of the coffee table when going for a glass of water during the night.

f***in painful I tell you!

Somebody once toed my wee stub at football-that was very sore.
mortonjag 2008-01-22 00:11:54
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jan 22 2008, 12:10 AM) [snapback]387739[/snapback]
Groupie tongue.gif

The Monkey wants to know the Chimp's name.
mortonjag 2008-01-22 07:20:35
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jan 22 2008, 12:21 AM) [snapback]387747[/snapback]
laugh.gif Name depends on whether or not the Monkey still gets spanked laugh.gif

Have I just lowered the tone of this conversation unsure.gif

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PDT-the Monkey and I have an agreement about corporal punishment-if he's been naughty he can either miss the next Ton match, or get a good spanking.

He's been a holy terror recently-can't think why! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-22 07:23:31 Ha- I just realised I once met a star from River City-an Indian girl who was also a medical student-her nickname was 'Pinky' but I haven't a clue what part she played as I detest soaps. Anyway she was nice, and complimented me on my guitar playing!
mortonjag 2008-01-22 07:34:13
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 22 2008, 12:40 AM) [snapback]387756[/snapback]
Indeed!!! I wish he would sign for St. Mirren, I really do.

As for managers with no experience, other clubs seem to do fine - Mowbray at Hibs (athough I think he was a coach before), John Hughes, Owen Coyle etc., just because McInally has been a disaster doesn't mean all inexperiencced guys will be.

And one thing is for sure - Rae should not be the man to make the appointment, he clearly doesn't have a clue how to deal with managers.

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Could be wrong but I expect big things from McInnes to cite one example, and don't forget our own Hal Stewart had never even been a footballer-he was a salesman and a bit of a Del Boy at that- but he sure knew how to motivate people.
mortonjag 2008-01-22 07:44:08
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jan 22 2008, 12:22 AM) [snapback]387748[/snapback]
That's how I feel.

I'll be at Fir Park on Wednesday but I'm not looking forward to it as much as I should. We're going into a replay against an SPL team with a good shout of going through to a last 16 tie with QOS. We should ALL be straining at the leash for a match like this.

Sadly, I'm more concerned with what McInally does with the team before I can relax and look forward to the game.

You just know he's going to f*** up before a ball's kicked and severely hamper our chances.

My prediciton for this game is Brian Graham to start ahead of Russell. dry.gif

It's an open secret that Brian is one of Rae's 'golden boys'. He's still young and raw, yet he's repeatedly been brought on a a sub when the going got tough, and in those circumstances has never been much use. In fairness to the lad, he's also scored a couple of nice goals for us-I'm not having a go at him-just at the usual managerial stupidity.
mortonjag 2008-01-22 07:47:35
QUOTE(The Shuffler @ Jan 22 2008, 06:35 AM) [snapback]387801[/snapback]
Just for the record mate, i raised my concerns to Dougie at hospitality on Sat regarding the wisdom/reasoning of letting Temps go when we dont have strength in depth striker wise, his reply was "that a striker will be signed before the window closes". Rumours & name dropping will always happen, but im (tentativley!) consoling myself that we are definatley going to sign a striker soon..................... according to Dougie !

Did he happen to mention which window?
mortonjag 2008-01-22 07:49:54
QUOTE(The Shuffler @ Jan 22 2008, 07:39 AM) [snapback]387806[/snapback]
Has he finally uncrossed his arms & found his ba**s ?

Told the players "it's time to shape up or ship out ", better late than never i suppose, lets see if he's true to his word though, also mentions "strengthing the team" .

Is his patience finally wavering or is it that P45 in Rae's hippy which has sparked this latest protestation?
mortonjag 2008-01-22 09:09:35
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 22 2008, 08:43 AM) [snapback]387819[/snapback]
I worked with le_chien_manquee, beat that ya bunch of sad sacks.

Didn't know you were a qualified therapist!
mortonjag 2008-01-22 09:34:48
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 22 2008, 09:12 AM) [snapback]387826[/snapback]
I'm not, he was. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Goodness gracious-so he used to work in IRH, I guess. Now I can put out the feelers to discover his identity, as I'm desperate to meet his neighbours! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-22 09:44:49
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 22 2008, 09:37 AM) [snapback]387833[/snapback]
Why didn't you say, he stays downstairs from me. laugh.gif

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A man of your age should be capable of shagging without rocking the foundations of the building! Nah-I reckon it's more likely he lives next door to Corky who gives it laldy every time the Jags 'score'!
mortonjag 2008-01-22 09:58:24
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jan 22 2008, 09:52 AM) [snapback]387838[/snapback]
Use the "Block List" function selectively and all of a sudden the site will become more enjoyable...honest!!!!!

Vive le bouton de pique! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-22 10:09:45
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jan 22 2008, 10:02 AM) [snapback]387841[/snapback]
It takes one to know one!!!!! Although in your case I'd add arrogant!!

Comment?

Le bouton de pique est une chose! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-22 10:28:37 cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Jan 22 2008, 10:09 AM) [snapback]387842[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Lie-la-lie...Lie-la-lie-lie-lie-La-lie.....Lie-la-lie...
Hey we have inadvertently discovered our new anthem!!!!!!

Who needs Live is Life ? PAH laugh.gif[/quote]
JM was a poor boy, but that story's seldom told
He's squandered his existence for a pocketful of mumbles, such are promises
All lies and jest, still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest, hmmmm

And he's laying out his winter clothes, wishing he was gone, goin home
Where the Parkhead sh*tty punters won't be bleedin him, leadin him to go home

In the clear he stands- his socks are green and white and nicely made
Yet he carries the reminders of every time they let him down and cut him
til he cried out in his anger and his shame
I am leaving, I am leaving, but those sh*tes are still the same
Yes still the same


Li la li unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-22 11:17:11
QUOTE(psycho @ Jan 22 2008, 11:05 AM) [snapback]387869[/snapback]
Game off !!

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mortonjag 2008-01-22 12:43:53
QUOTE(Bobbyton @ Jan 22 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]387897[/snapback]
Does nobody else rate Allan Moore? He is the only man for the job in my eyes. Think he'd jump at the chance as well to step up and manage full time.

Could be wrong, but I think Moore has a full time contract at Stirling-he could do the job-no doubt about it, but he would clash with Rae for sure, and probably last a couple of months IMO.
mortonjag 2008-01-22 14:29:32
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 22 2008, 01:01 PM) [snapback]387913[/snapback]
part time.

Was that the case last season Bryan-I'm certain Mif told me he was full time then.
mortonjag 2008-01-22 14:31:01
QUOTE(Bobbyton @ Jan 22 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]387925[/snapback]
How would he clash with Rae? McCormack was a strong minded person who would have stood up to the so called dictatorship you talk about except he lasted a fair time at the club. Why wouldn't Moore if his results were good?

Cowboy was that bit older and possibly less volatile, albeit he knew his own mind-could be wrong of course, and would love to try it.
mortonjag 2008-01-22 14:33:37
QUOTE(KATKIT @ Jan 22 2008, 02:27 PM) [snapback]387944[/snapback]
Real supporters support a team through thick and thin.

Not so-if they're pissed off they go to the bullfighting!
mortonjag 2008-01-22 14:36:34
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Jan 22 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]387924[/snapback]
Woman jailed for testicle attack

A woman who ripped off her ex-boyfriend's testicle with her bare hands has been sent to prison.

An argument ensued and Mr Jones said there was a struggle between them. In his statement, Mr Jones said she grabbed his genitals and "pulled hard".

The court heard that a friend saw Monti put Mr Jones's testicle into her mouth and try to swallow it. She choked and spat it back into her hand before the friend grabbed it and gave it back to Mr Jones. Doctors were unable to re-attach the organ.

Poor girl though, got the sack and sent to jail.

Poor, poor chap-it wouldn't be quite so tragic if he'd had two in the first place.
mortonjag 2008-01-22 14:39:30
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 22 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]387940[/snapback]
To do what may I ask tongue.gif

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Have you been talking to him? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-22 14:43:50
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 22 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]387946[/snapback]
Blink 182 - Freak scene

Isn't google wonderful?....
NEXT:

I gave a letter to the mailman,
He put it in his sack

Elvis-return to sender...




I wonder if one day that you'll say that you care
mortonjag 2008-01-22 14:46:26
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 22 2008, 02:33 PM) [snapback]387952[/snapback]
I wish more players would interact with fans in that manner, real old fashioned football fans and players are a dying breed.

True-- Chic Charnley would have given two fingers as well-one from each hand-and a big cheesy grin to go with them!
mortonjag 2008-01-22 14:55:32
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jan 22 2008, 02:53 PM) [snapback]387960[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif She got the sack ok.....

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mortonjag 2008-01-22 15:09:04 Just wondering-my sister in law's just acquired one and they've called it


MAGGIE!!!


I think that name's more suited to a bird, or maybe a mole! huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-22 15:22:43
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jan 22 2008, 03:20 PM) [snapback]387972[/snapback]
strange as it may sound i actually had this conversation with my mum about a month ago. She and my dad bet on the horses and they asked if i had a racehorse what would i call it.
I decided eventually on "The Horsee"
*commentator*

"the horsee is comin up the left.....the horsee goes two lengths in front....the horsee wins the grand national"
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Horsee the horse-yeah that sounds fine, but Maggie the horse? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-22 15:37:02
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 22 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]387973[/snapback]
Pedigree Chum laugh.gif

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You are a bad man-do they still mince up horse in Barrhead and can it for the pooches BTW?
mortonjag 2008-01-22 15:41:40
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 22 2008, 03:24 PM) [snapback]387975[/snapback]
laugh.gif Not recently but I am due to visit Perth in March. Will ask him then biggrin.gif

He'll definitely remember her-she always wore a necklace bearing the legend 'I married a loser'.



Oh...and I forgot about the baseball bat in her big handbag.
mortonjag 2008-01-22 15:43:45
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 22 2008, 03:39 PM) [snapback]387984[/snapback]
Sorry to disappoint mate. The factory closed a while back.

Used to be a fiendish smell when I drove past-that was before my best friend whispered in my ear.
mortonjag 2008-01-22 15:45:05
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 22 2008, 03:35 PM) [snapback]387981[/snapback]
Aye, but will we notice the difference laugh.gif

He can finnish a move.
mortonjag 2008-01-22 15:46:51
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 22 2008, 03:44 PM) [snapback]387989[/snapback]
Two back feet
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mortonjag 2008-01-22 16:16:43 It's strange that nobody seems to have met the Queen!

The nearest I ever got to her was a surprise-we were driving from Linwood to Bridge of Weir and were stopped at the junction just outside Brookfield by the police. There was a small group of folks who had been carefully marshalled into a wee huddle at the roadside, and I wondered what the hell was going on. Just as my wife mumbled something about a royal visit, the motorcade trundled past-all the folk in the group were waving and clapping like mad, but Betty never even looked the road they were on-his nibs gave a half hearted gesture of the hand, and that was it! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-22 16:19:33
QUOTE(Iamdiscostu @ Jan 22 2008, 04:15 PM) [snapback]387999[/snapback]
That was "The Anchor" wasn't it? I used to drink in there when her and her husband owned the place, it was always know that you could get a gobble from her if her old man could tape it. She wasn't too bad looking either, poledancer from Glasgow if my memory serves me right.

Lovely hair, parted right down the middle.

pair?
mortonjag 2008-01-22 18:15:20
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Jan 22 2008, 05:56 PM) [snapback]388029[/snapback]
I think GibbyTon mentioned that he had met the Queen or it may have been A Queen???? tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-01-22 18:37:16
QUOTE(binnie @ Jan 22 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]388038[/snapback]
theres only one kenny deucher his wife is a hooker u give her to bob she'll suck your n*b walkin in a hooker wonderland

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I wonder if you can just write NOB without the wee star!

Good gracious-let's try KNOB

Aah-things are looking up!
mortonjag 2008-01-22 18:44:20
QUOTE(binnie @ Jan 22 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]388047[/snapback]
well a got kiked of a forum for it

eh? just for writing 'knob'? What forum was that-the baptist church prayer link or something?!!!
mortonjag 2008-01-22 18:52:58 It's beginning to look like Jim's now caught between the Devil and the deep blue sea-seems very much like he's been passing the pressure from on high onto the players and they haven't responded. I've got to say I feel a tad sorry for him, but ultimately this is of his own making, and I'm wondering how he can possibly turn things around before the Master finally loses patience.
mortonjag 2008-01-22 18:56:30
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 22 2008, 06:46 PM) [snapback]388054[/snapback]
Thorton will love this guy laugh.gif

Thornton is a n*b!
mortonjag 2008-01-22 19:04:04
QUOTE(axeman @ Jan 22 2008, 06:57 PM) [snapback]388065[/snapback]
They've just announced he's out for the season.

I'm sorry for the lad, but not for Gre£na-the chickens are coming home to roost-just goes to show what can happen when a rich man indulges his fantasies. God could not save poor Gretna from the Mileson round its neck.
mortonjag 2008-01-22 19:07:22
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jan 22 2008, 07:05 PM) [snapback]388074[/snapback]
if it is people that i have met and spoken to, as opposed to someone i have just seen, then it would be

the queen, prince charles, diana, princesses anne and margret, prince philip, john major, malcolm rifkind, alex salmond, rev. ian paisley, dowza, stiff little fingers (even managed a wee kick about with them wink.gif ) spicy mchaggis, gary lineker, most of the cast of emerdale (twats) and god. To name but a few. Friend of the stars me wink.gif

any particular god, or just god?
mortonjag 2008-01-23 06:30:06
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jan 22 2008, 08:29 PM) [snapback]388166[/snapback]
This is almost certainly the team which will start the game as we have very few options. I looked at the bench on Saturday when we were 2-0 down and thought " we have no one we can bring on to try to change the game". We have left ourselves woefully short up front by allowing players to be released without replacements being brought in. If Harding and McGregor are just gonnae hoof the ball up the park then we might as well stick big Greacen up beside Russell, at least he'll make an attempt to win it in the air, which is more than our top striker has done for a wee while.

Said exactly the same when they went two up!
mortonjag 2008-01-23 06:34:44
QUOTE(lemmington @ Jan 22 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]388202[/snapback]
Whats the best route to take????

Over the first cliff perhaps? wink.gif

Where does your journey start-Motherwell's off the main Scotland England motorway which you'll find in all good atlases. Take the exit for Hamilton/Motherwell and head up the hill to Motherwell-soon you will see floodlights-park as near as possible, and don't carry bagpipes.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 06:44:29 I too attempted to contact the club via GMFC.net (if you wish to discuss this topic etc.) at the time of the Craig Thomson incident at Hamilton. I praised Mr Rae's stance, and mentioned that I, along with others had also written to the SFA. I received no acknowledgement of any kind, not that I was surprised!
mortonjag 2008-01-23 06:51:06
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jan 23 2008, 06:43 AM) [snapback]388596[/snapback]
Dont be so f***in stupid, it works like this........ When we lose it's jim McInally's (and DDRs) fault, when we win, the players did it in spite of the managers tactics.
Well, thats what the keyboard experts on here keep pointing out anyway,

For once you are correct.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 07:04:39
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 23 2008, 12:04 AM) [snapback]388508[/snapback]
Looks like its more the story of Sutton and Mensing than Coakley and Gardyne , Dougie must be some angler as every big one seems to get away . I wonder if we'll get an explaination Dougie style . I go for
I got out my Merc , proceeded to the ground ,where I was to meet our big winter signing as recommended by our excellent young manager , who I have a great working relationship .
Suddenly !!! I was set upon by Mortonjag and a group of the Toby Boo Boys . In the scuffle I lost my dentures !!!!!!! . So , while I fended them off with the aid of a Fudgy Wudgy !!! and a bag of Quarter pounders ! from THE GOLDEN CASKET . Dundee manager Gavin Rae , had dug a tunnel into my office and Kidnapped our player !!!!! Telling him lies that they were challenging for promotion and we were languishing near the bottom ??? we are at least midtable on the official website !! He then told him the story of the Cappielow boo Boys this would strike fear into any footballer of calibre ,, as they like having nothing more than a good moan
We know Dundee United have stole players in the past this season .An untrustworthy goblin is how I'd describe Alex Rae ,
I have looked out my stationary box and have written to the SFA in protest but have not had a reply from Ernie Walker yet !!!!! but all Morton fans can rest assured that their chairman and manager , The Gaffur , will be doing our upmost to strengthening the team ,
All , I can say , is the fans can trust us to get it right .
Aye ,
Dougie

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P.ESH.

If anyone should find my denturesh, I shall be eternally indebted to that pershon if that pershon, be he or she whomshoever he or she may be, could bring him or hershelf, (asshuming he or she ish able) to enshure their shafe and timeous transhmisshion to my Chief Exshecutive, Ms. Gillian Donaldshon, who can shometimes be found at Cappielow Park, Shinclair Street, Greenock, ash she alwaysh washes them for me before my shpeeches.


Yoursh Aye

Douglish
mortonjag 2008-01-23 07:23:10
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jan 22 2008, 10:20 PM) [snapback]388382[/snapback]
The team that won the third division got off to a flying start in the second division in 2003/4 season, but something went dreadfully wrong at Cappielow starting from the 1-0 new year defeat at Dumbarton. We were playing well until then, we were around 14-15 points ahead of Airdrie and looked dead certs to win the league that year, but we threw it away and ended up being fourth place amid allegations of players throwing the league to win bets etc. There are countless versions of events and plenty of folk are privvy to versions which shouldnt be told etc. but the crux of the matter is whatever really happened back then was the work of evil. Morton were flying up the leagues back then, John McCormack got it right, the team were playing well, the supporters adored them and then everything came to a shuddering halt in such a cruel and premature manner.

Morton havent recovered since then. Fine, we may have won the second division (after four seasons of trying), players have come and gone but the undercurrent of suspicion towards the playing staff is still there, supporters who dare to speak out about how unhappy they are about certain things are treated with disdain and derision by the club and its inner sanctum, the culture of transparency which we were promised at the beginning of the Rae regime's tenure doesnt read quite true. His time in charge is littered with instances of inaccuracies and sometimes dubious information peddled to the supporters which lead you to question whether the man can be trusted. But och aye, hes a Morton Man thru n' thru, cut his vein he'd bleed blue hoops blah. etc. pish.

Its tiresome. Its depressing. Its not what Morton should be.

Look at Gretna, it was only a couple of years ago we played them in their first game in the SFL. They steamed past us on the way up to the SPL. They may be bottom, but they are getting a fortune in TV rights and sponsorship. They may have had a lot of money thrown at them, but we've not exactly been paupers over the same period of time but we've squandered a fortune on bad decisions.

Look at Hamilton, they werent even given a second thought back in 2003/4 season, but they managed to leapfrog us when we threw the league away that year, and earn themselves promotion to the first division where they've stayed since. They attract brilliant young players, and even still they manage to hold on to them, and this season they look like a safe bet to go up to the SPL.

Look at Morton. Perennial under-achievers. A club with more leaks than a Cardiff Sainsbury's. Everyone we try and sign ends up going to Tayside, we sign guys like Coakley who only gets a chance because his dad is loaded. We squander cash and plead poverty then berate our supporters for not being as good as Celtics. A club with a manager of dubious integrity who is doing a Malpas to a chairman not big enough to sack him. A club who have players who hate the fans, and the feeling is mutual, believe me.

It is repulsive. It is heartbreaking. Is it a place worth giving up a day off work for?

That's the only bit I disagree with-the Maister will sack anybody if he decides that suits him-it's obvious to me that up 'til now JM has managed to stay in the good books because he wouldn't say boo to a goose, but recent happenings suggest the worm may have turned, and disenchanted both the Chairman AND his players simultaneously.

For him (JM) that's bad, bad news, and the P45 undoubtedly looms.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 08:05:17 Rae has become a total liability-why did he bother saving OUR club in the first place when it was simply to make it his little plaything?

He's reputedly a wealthy and successful businessman, yet his headstrong self indulgence, catalysed by an entourage of sycophantic 'hingers on' has made us the laughing stock of Scottish Football.

Why can't we sign players? DON'T blame the manager for that one-football is a tight knit community, and everybody knows what's been going on at Cappielow.

I have so little faith in that man that I wouldn't in the slightest be surprised if this Alastair Donald appointment falls flat on its face before it even gets off the ground! sleep.gif How can a man of Donald's experience and bullish success EVER work with someone who can't even delegate the buying of toilet paper for the Scapa bogs?

Arthur Montford and Ian Brown are now Honorary Vice Presidents, but who is THE President? Ach well, I guess Latin was never the Shooglemeister's best subject at school!

That leaves a nominal Director in Jim McColl, and little boy Crawford. What does HE think of this shambles? Is he in total awe of his father, or just patiently waiting to step into his shoes-either way, he certainly comes over more as mouse than man.

So the Shoogly show rumbles on, and his behaviour gets MORE dictatorial by the minute. No greater fool than an old one, they say!

His monopolistic programme notes are self opinionated, stilted, and frequently offensive to the playing staff and the intelligence. He slates off 'boo' and 'negativity' boys', grumbles about lack of vocal support and dwindling crowds, prattles on about his love affair with the May Hughes Dancers, and still can't see that he's made even the tiniest mistake.

Hitler, Mussolini, Amin, and Hussein spring to mind.

I have been praying so hard for the only thing which I believe can sort this problem out.

Tell me that's evil, and I'll call you a Shooglyphile.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 09:02:31
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jan 23 2008, 08:24 AM) [snapback]388609[/snapback]
MJ I've no problem with your general premise that DDFR is part of the problem at Morton but seriously get a grip of yourself. Comparing Morton's chairman to the likes of Hitler etc only make you look like a daft old fanny and undermine the sensible stuff you have to say.

Stirring up controversy on a messageboard with stuff like that isn't new and can be easily interpreted as a desperate need for attention.

Comparing and contrasting are perfectly legitimate-Rae may well be described as a 'benign' dictator, but a dictator he undoubtedly is, and we are all suffering as a result.

Perhaps I am in desperate need of attention-if so, I guess I'm doing something to sort out the problem.

Over to you Shoogly!
mortonjag 2008-01-23 09:09:57
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Jan 23 2008, 08:26 AM) [snapback]388610[/snapback]
And your are?

You disappear for weeks and come back with a vengeance in your criticism of the Club I agree there is a lot wrong However don't see what benefit it is to anyone with your rants on here.

Are you a trust member ? if so direct your questions towards Jim McColl as I believe that it was time that the trust started asking question however Jim seems happy to sit in the directors box without taking on the responsibility of representing the the trust share holders .

I have been at meetings regarding the Youth set up which comes under Jims remit however he was unable to answer most questions asked has never spoken to the youth coaches and never been to a youth match however was happy to tell everyone that he was a director forgetting if it was not for the trust he would not be a director.

I'm not entirely sure what your point is-I've already told you why Jim gets nothing done-RAE!

Is this not the correct place for genuine Morton fans to openly vent their feelings without fear of retribution?

I'm only saying what many, many others are at last realising is true-the club is in a disorganised mess from top to bottom, but unlike those others I've been saying the same thing for over three years-NOT just in response to recent events.

All power is said to corrupt, and apparently total power corrupts totally.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 09:11:51
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 23 2008, 08:33 AM) [snapback]388612[/snapback]
Will you be saying these things face to face to Mr Rae in February ? unsure.gif

I am capable of making a point diplomatically! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-23 09:18:59
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Jan 23 2008, 09:14 AM) [snapback]388628[/snapback]
So Rae stops him from talking to the Coaches stops him from going to youth matches

Don't start on about the youth policy-Rae has already proved himself to be devious when it comes to that issue-ask Chrissiboi. What on earth makes you think Jim McColl has free rein to do what he pleases when everything at Cappielow has to be countersigned? That is the very point of my post-the place is totally bereft of true delegation, and Rae is universally feared (not respected).
mortonjag 2008-01-23 09:26:23
QUOTE(ayrstorm @ Jan 23 2008, 09:19 AM) [snapback]388631[/snapback]
in football, nothing wrong with a 'dictator' who recognises what has to be done and gets it sorted, but is also big enough to acknowledge his mistakes in public and sort them. Just look up the road at David Murray!

as to all the other guff in the rambling, regular repeating it on here in the way it is done does look like a personal vendetta eg
stick to the facts - the team is not performing, the manager is not inspiring the fans, the crowds are not healthy, the buck stops at the owner.

this toilet roll pish, unsubstantiated rumour you spread, is what makes it look like a vendetta

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The toilet roll story came straight from Cappielow-it IS as laughable as that-why don't you establish your facts before criticising mine!
mortonjag 2008-01-23 09:29:05
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jan 23 2008, 08:42 AM) [snapback]388616[/snapback]
Surely the pitch inspection could be left till say 5 o'clock to allow the groundsmen to get the pitch ready?

The tractors take a long time to get up the M74.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 09:33:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 23 2008, 09:27 AM) [snapback]388636[/snapback]
You are no doubt capable of making these points on the messageboard. But we have a fans rally in February, and you are one of Rae's biggest critics to the point of comparing him to Hitler, Mussolini, Amin, and Hussein.

Will you be making these points to him face to face ?

I will most certainly be asking pointed questions Col, but as you very well know, the rally is a charade. If things keep going the way they are, it will almost certainly be 'postponed'!

The contents of this 'rag' are freely available to all who are interested, and my points are made on that understanding. Wouldn't it be refreshing for somebody from the inner sanctum to grace us with some opinion! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-23 09:37:06
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jan 23 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]388638[/snapback]
Certain comments there remind me of someone

Old hat SH-is that REALLY the best you can do? dry.gif

The truth is that it's folk like you with your 'clever' little 'one liners' who are the attention seekers.
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What is YOUR opinion of the current set up, if you actually have one?
mortonjag 2008-01-23 09:41:48
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jan 23 2008, 09:37 AM) [snapback]388646[/snapback]
isnt it the majority of the people from this 'rag' that goto the rally anyway?
anyway you cant hold dougie ENTIRELY responsible for whats going on. JM seems to have a severe gap in his knowledge of his tactics and formation at cappielow. But from the rumours floating around dougie intereferes so maybe it is all his fault.
either way something needs to be done, someone needs to go and unfortunately theres not alot we can do unless the entire forum all chips in together and buys the club.

He's the man who persisted with JM after his failures two seasons in a row.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 09:50:38 In response to Ryan H's question-'Who should I pass to'?
mortonjag 2008-01-23 09:54:22
QUOTE(The Shuffler @ Jan 23 2008, 06:19 AM) [snapback]388590[/snapback]
ohmy.gif That was my Doc, he passed away a few years ago. Im still registered to that "pokey wee surgery" & let me tell you its 10 times better than that sh*thole we call a health centre.

...But surely not still in the same building? It didn't even have a toilet if I re-call correctly!
mortonjag 2008-01-23 10:11:03
QUOTE(Russells Muscles @ Jan 23 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]388661[/snapback]
You sit just a few rows behind him on match days Mr Newall, why don't you repeat all this garbage to his face instead of spouting your bile on a public forum. Perhaps you're just all mouth like a few others on here? If you don't like what's on offer at Cappielow, p*ss off. mad.gif

No Sir, why should I have to 'piss off' because I dislike what's happening to a club I've supported for almost 50 years?

'Garbage'-is that the best you can do? What have I stated that is inaccurate?

You clearly know who I am (though it's DR Newall to you)-care to reveal your identity so that the posters can put a face to you-or are YOU just all mouth? dry.gif

I got the same sort of abuse from about 90% of posters when I was making identical points long, long ago. Now the automatic 'rubbishing' of those who dare to criticise the great man has diminished to a cringeworthy bleat.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 10:23:50
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jan 23 2008, 10:14 AM) [snapback]388669[/snapback]
can I ask a fair question MJ?
ok we both agree that dougie is a problem and JM hasnt got a clue half the time BUT what if dougie did give up and sell the club and we ended up wither another t*** like Scott with an even stupider manager? is it worth taking that risk or jsut let dougie go on till he realises what he's doing?

Damned if we do, and damned if we don't. It's a risk-I acknowledge that, and it's a risk posed to almost any football club because of the nature of the game. I don't think Rae is capable of changing-he's elderly, and set in his ways, and I've NEVER said he doesn't mean well. Haven't a clue what it would take to have him see the error of his ways.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 10:28:25
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jan 23 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]388675[/snapback]
probably nothing short of the ghost of christmas past at this rate.

Sadly that's extremely appropriate.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 10:37:13
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 23 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]388676[/snapback]
So I take it we're not signing anyone at all? The whole thing was just a ruse to try to pacify us. Pathetic.

One thing's for sure-he's said he'll not be 'bullied' into signing players-how in God's name can you 'bully' the guy with all the power at his fingertips.

As I've said elsewhere Rae seems to think you can deal in players like you're bartering for cut price sugar. I'm utterly, utterly sick of his ego getting in the way of reason, and we're the ones who suffer. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry at his explanation of the Jani Sturm affair, and no doubt we'll be getting more of the same.

I can't believe that some fans still have patience with this man-some still seem almost to worship him as a God, but let's face it, his two current functions seem only to be making sweeties and f*cking Greenock Morton! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-23 10:52:21
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jan 23 2008, 10:48 AM) [snapback]388687[/snapback]
I've said all along that before Rae is hounded out the door people should be looking around for the alternative and I haven't seen any evidence of a clear option apart from the regular 'I know of some stinking rich Morton minded people that want to throw loads of cash at the club but Dougie Rae won't let them' posts that never name any names.

Not much more needs to be added to the McInally debate, though I'm sure another few hundred threads will be. If we don't beat Clyde that should be the end of the matter (although who can be sure) but I have real concerns over who might show up to replace him. As I've said before, McInally is not the only manager in the league who plays players out of position, makes poor signings etc etc etc even though a lot of Ton fans seem to think he has the monopoly on it.

We're well aware you've been saying this stuff for three years. Along with a lot of other stuff such as Spoonsy being a striker. You're the Nostradamus of this message board and some people love you for it. And some people find it tedious.

Fair enough.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 12:57:22
QUOTE(cmdc @ Jan 23 2008, 11:16 AM) [snapback]388698[/snapback]
Are you wishing death on the guy? blink.gif

My wish is that in some way (I've know idea what) circumstances change,and a competent regime is instituted.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 12:58:18
QUOTE(ayrstorm @ Jan 23 2008, 11:29 AM) [snapback]388704[/snapback]
so we need to agree to disagree on that one - maybe the story came straight from Cappielow, but so did a lot of supposed signing stories and the facts in them are few and far between. If its not in an agm minutes or some official club release ........

I think where we have some agreement must be this:

the team is not performing, the manager is not inspiring the fans, the crowds are not healthy, the buck stops at the owner.

He put the manager in place, he will approve/disapprove signings and releases, he has influenced (or maybe its controlled) the board membership and he has to take ultimate blame if it continues to go wrong and fans turn away again. He also has the chance to sort it from within or find someone outwith who can.

Correct.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 13:00:20
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 23 2008, 11:37 AM) [snapback]388709[/snapback]
Psycho.

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Seems you too have jumped to conclusions, though I'd suggest that Mr. Rae is not himself a stranger to Machiavellian philosophy. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-23 13:47:25
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jan 23 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]388774[/snapback]
theres a lot of big long words in there MJ, but unfortunately nothing that we havent all read 13,160 (13,160!!!) times before.

we all know how clever you are and are highly impressed that you DO have an excellent grasp of latin. Well done, yourself a pat on the back. most of us are also disillusioned with whats going on at the club at the moment and lay a significant share of the blame at the door to the office of the chairman.

what else do you want from us? please stop pontificating and making such long, boring posts as they are only adding to all of our misery.

p.s. please feel free to highlight any errors i may have made in my spelling or grammar rather than replying to what i have actually said here.

edit to add - i would rather be supporting a rich mans "plaything" playing 1st division football than be watching us in the juniors or whatever, so questioning why he bothered saving the club is way out of line. we all know that Rae isnt the ideal chairman and we are all frequently frustrated by his actions or lack thereof, but regardless of all this I will never forget that HE was the man who stepped in at the 11th hour, and for that we will all be forever indebted to him. this DOESNT make him exempt from criticism though, before you accuse me of being a shooglyphile or whatever

How many of you are there in this multiple personality of yours Greacen-if you disagree with my opinions, say so, but don't tell me what to do and what not to do, and don't talk for others who are perfectly capable of voicing their own feelings.

Aye it's a cleft stick indeed-without Rae there would be no Morton, but if the current fiasco goes on and we freefall to the bottom of the third division, will you still be 'forever indebted to him'? Where does common sense step in? If I save a young woman's life, does she then become my chattel-someone who will never complain no matter how many times I beat and rape her-just because she's forever indebted to me?

Rae has clearly demonstrated (so far as I can see) that he saved GMFC because he wanted to-not because he gave a toss about the thoughts and feelings of his fellow fans, and he's been happy to bask in the limelight ever since, riding roughshod over all and sundry in the process. That, IMHO, is NOT the behaviour of a true fan who cares for the club in its entirety, and as I've said before, a club without fans is dead. For that reason I believe it's correct that those who are unhappy should make their feelings heard as vociferously as possible.

mortonjag 2008-01-23 13:49:09
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jan 23 2008, 01:38 PM) [snapback]388789[/snapback]
what does pontificating mean?

this ones for you MJ

Being a Mr Rae-I guess!
mortonjag 2008-01-23 13:53:14
QUOTE(Patg @ Jan 23 2008, 01:46 PM) [snapback]388795[/snapback]
Doubtfull , The last rally there was a distinct silence from the boo boys
lol
Comeon MJ , By reading your post it looks like you commented you are praying for him to kick the bucket ? For all of Dougies failings the one thing you or anyone else can never accuse him of is NOT BEING A MORTON MAN

He is a Morton supporter and did save the club , I think its time for him to step down but think some of your postings towards him are pretty poor

Scott Gillan (PS Ive never hid behind my user name unlike yourself )

Crap Scott-my identity's been common knowledge for ages-FFS even my address was given in the copy of my letter from the SFA re Craig Thomson, after I had backed Douglas Rae's stance to the hilt! ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-23 14:05:06
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jan 23 2008, 01:08 PM) [snapback]388766[/snapback]
Leaving Kilmacolm, take 2nd right, follow road down over the Gryffe and into Quarriers.
Take a right at the T junction and it's on the left.
Don't know how welcome visitors are though...

Is that on the site of the old 'Epileptic Colony'?
mortonjag 2008-01-23 14:08:32
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jan 23 2008, 02:02 PM) [snapback]388808[/snapback]
did u get fan mail or hate mail after that one lol

j/k man.
does everyone think the rally will def go ahead?

I've had my share of unpleasant p.m.'s but so far nothing in the post! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-23 16:08:59 I'm going, and taking the Monkey, Fing, and Mairi-I think she now regrets that decision, but she was at the Killie victory last year so maybe a lucky mascot!
mortonjag 2008-01-23 16:11:24 Probably well known but Borj Thorup works on Western Ferries-usually the Sound of Scarba.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 16:18:15
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 23 2008, 03:59 PM) [snapback]388867[/snapback]
Sitting on the chairman's lap on Saturday tongue.gif
I tend not to have a go at the players( sorry , I lost the plot at Harding for letting Deuchar steal the ball and only McGurn's save revented a goal) and I haven't booed towards anyone and I have hardly been an outspoken supporter . I think if you saw any sign of recovery , entertainment , foward planning then frustration wouldn't be so high .
JM has had 4 years which is a long time to get your feet under the table at a football club at the present .This is the first season where we face teams of a similar size and standard ie fulltime training . It is also the first time difficult games are on a regular basis .
What we have saw is a side incapable of matching the standard and a manager who constantly bewilders with selection , tactics and substitutions.
Look at McInally's reign overall , despite the advantage of being full time it took 3 attempts before promotion was won . We were told that this young squad would come good and we would find things easier in a higher division , this isin't the case .
There are other issues that have brought this so called negativity . The summer transfer debacle , now we have a January sale , the squad numbers have dropped to a size that forgive me for saying this but looks as if we are preparing for 2nd division football. Guys like Templeman going and our target replacement away to Dundee . Millar ? according to the chairman he just jumped the gun in signing a precontract agreement for another of our league rivals . Will we keep him until the season end will we sort out the problems that prevented the signing of Jenkins will that be enough to instill much needed confidence in the team and therefore the support.

Snap Chris-I never let off steam at individual players, and the only time I ever will is likely to be if I have proof somebody's deliberately been shirking.

Those are young boys-they need guidance and support, especially if things are not going too well, and that's one reason why we should have signed two or three seasoned 'pros' ages ago.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 16:29:27
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jan 23 2008, 04:24 PM) [snapback]388902[/snapback]
Does Rowan Alexander still think he's the Gretna manager?

If recent comments from some posters are anything to go on he probably thinks he's Dougie Rae, the Pope, God, and a local Big Issue seller at one and the same time, and keeps his pills in an old Smartie tube.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 16:32:09
QUOTE(Deego @ Jan 23 2008, 04:24 PM) [snapback]388903[/snapback]
My thread not good enough? sad.gif

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What does the girlfriend think? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-23 17:12:07
QUOTE(Russells Muscles @ Jan 23 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]388661[/snapback]
You sit just a few rows behind him on match days Mr Newall, why don't you repeat all this garbage to his face instead of spouting your bile on a public forum. Perhaps you're just all mouth like a few others on here? If you don't like what's on offer at Cappielow, p*ss off. mad.gif

I see you still haven't revealed your identity RM-nor for that matter acknowledged my p.m. I must confess I'm astonished that you know where I sit on match days-you haven't been a naughty boy and given away classified club information on an unofficial fans' forum perchance!!!

Dearie, dearie me-Data protection Act and all that-next thing you'll be revealing that the Monkey is on the list of sex offenders! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-23 17:33:05 Hopefully the boys wil raise their game tonight-I'm honestly not expecting a victory but a decent effort will send me home with some peace of mind, and I'll be backing them throughout the game as always.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 17:38:19
QUOTE(The Shuffler @ Jan 23 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]388895[/snapback]
Yes, the same building.

The toilet was always there, at the back on the right hanside of the wall as you came in the door. The waiting room has been halved now by a reception area !

Wow, I can hardly believe that-I'm sure it was 1983 when I worked there-I was on call for 24/7 throughout the whole nine days, though I didn't get too many calls out during the night. Is there still just one Doctor in the practice?
mortonjag 2008-01-23 17:46:21 An expression we used at Hallowe'en was 'going your goloshons'-I've no idea how it's spelled and can't find any derivation, though the nearest would be 'goloshing' I suppose. I've never heard the term outside Inverclyde-anybody familiar with it?
mortonjag 2008-01-23 17:49:36
QUOTE(stubaws @ Jan 23 2008, 05:44 PM) [snapback]388959[/snapback]
jesus christ MJ for a while i was missing u on this board but not now! ur vendetta against dougie is even more embarassing than dougies pre-match microphone efforts. he has his faults of that there is no doubt but ur kicking the arse right out of it now. away and have a lie down

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You said that all so sweetly-not a nasty word in it, and I apologise for embarrassing such a nice person.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 18:02:52
QUOTE(floydpink26 @ Jan 23 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]388967[/snapback]
So why dont you say anything to Dougie Rae MJ,If your seat is so close to his,You have a perfect opportunity to get answers,and you come on here asking the questions that you could be asking him to his face....why dont you?

You seem to be a bit upset that some 1 has pointed this out.

You're totally missing the point-NOBODY knows where I sit, except my brother, and only two forum users have met me in person-both are entirely trustworthy and don't use the stand.

I've not pushed this issue-in fact I've tried to lighten it up a bit, but classified information appears to have been released on to a public forum by somebody with privileged access.

IF I was really pursuing a vendetta against Mr Rae, I could have this issue investigated under the Data Protection Act. Many an employee has been sacked for less.


Why don't I say anything directly to Mr Rae? For one simple reason-there is a time and place for everything. Irrespective of my feelings, on a Saturday he is there to (hopefully) enjoy the football, as am I. Furthermore, I have little doubt that the comments of one solitary fan on a match day would have little effect, even if he was polite enough to listen.

As I've said before, this is the place to air views, or as a last resort, in the newspapers.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 06:58:45
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jan 23 2008, 08:21 PM) [snapback]389120[/snapback]
AND if Newton is to be believed we missed out on Scott McDonald in the Summer sad.gif

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Not quite Scott McDonald, but that whole issue became a farce and we definitely scorned a 'no catches' opportunity.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 07:11:50
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 24 2008, 12:18 AM) [snapback]389295[/snapback]
There was a wee shot of the pitch inspection on Scotsport tonight. Kenny Clark stood over a muddy patch and dropped the ball from about shoulder height. It just buried itself about half the diameter of the ball in mud and stuck there. No way that pitch was playable an hour earlier.

I was at my son's place at Gartcosh and there was a downpour but it did'nt last that long. The damage was done to that pitch earlier than 6:40pm

We arrived at five past seven, only to be told by a steward that the game was 'off' because the 'ball wasn't bouncing properly'-he was pissed off too because he then had to go to the car park and inform those arriving.

Given recent events and publicity and the agreement to introduce a four hour rule, this is a huge c*ck up by the S.F.A., as you suggest. Nobody else can be blamed. Will anybody get his botty smacked for this?

Naw-it was only Gretna v Morton. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-24 07:23:14
QUOTE(floydpink26 @ Jan 23 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]388982[/snapback]
Really...Im always of the thinking no time like the present.Well u more or less said you sit within talking distance of Dougie.Im sure if you were to introduce yourself to him and explaine that you are mortonjag,He would gladly make time for you having probs read your comments about him over the last few seasons.And now you question if he actualy supports morton..are you for real?

Im sure he could persue you for slander for questioning his loyalty to morton over the years.

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mortonjag 2008-01-24 07:24:28
QUOTE(wee mo @ Jan 23 2008, 07:40 PM) [snapback]389058[/snapback]
I don't come on to this messageboard very often although I do read it when I'm fed up sticking pins in my eyes.

I have never heard such vitriol coming from a so called professional person. Your remarks about Douglas Rae are extremely personal, and you a doctor!!!!!! How would you like to be compared to Dr Mengele or Dr Shipman?
You call yourself a supporter? What exactly is it you are supporting - certainly not Morton, more like your own ego.

I think you are forgetting that there would in all probability be no football club if it wasn't for Douglas Rae. I didn't see anyone else rushing to save the club. Give the guy a break - at least he has shown that he IS a true supporter.

Away and wachle DOCTOR Newall - thank God I'm not on your panel. You probably also believe in Euthanasia for the hard of hearing, the short sighted and women.

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mortonjag 2008-01-24 07:32:28
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jan 23 2008, 07:44 PM) [snapback]389067[/snapback]
I may have missed something MJ but what classified information appears to have been released?

GMFC have a list of the personal details of season book holders. IMO that was Russell's Muscles' source when he openly published my name and seating position.

I have lightheatedly given him the opportunity to correct me, or offer an explanation here, and have sent a polite but pointed personal message, but Russell's Muscles, who described me as 'just a mouth' has disappeared like snow of a dyke.

OK, you can argue that this is no big deal, but it seems typical of the amateurish shambles that is G.M.F.C., and I can assure you that in the real world, many an employee has been fired for a similar offence.

I imagine Mr Muscles has made his last post on our 'rag'.

Mortonjag the Spycatcher. dry.gif

mortonjag 2008-01-24 07:36:11
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jan 23 2008, 07:49 PM) [snapback]389074[/snapback]
don't you just love bluster biggrin.gif

mortonjag may be anonymous but perhaps someone recognised his high-flying brother rolleyes.gif

I doubt it-he is more anonymous than me-no dear trumpet , it's not bluster, it's about another smart arsed shooglyphile who hasn't been as smart as he imagined, and now hasn't even got the balls to stand up for himself. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-24 07:40:56
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 23 2008, 08:05 PM) [snapback]389095[/snapback]
surely no-one can really be this much of a p***k. i would count how many times mentaljag has lauded himself in the course of this thread but i don't have a couple of hours to spare.

maybe he should get a virtual gold star - the very, very first wee boy in the whole wide world who thought the morton manager was pish.

Just listen to Mortonjag sonny boy-you'll not go wrong! He predicted what would happen with JM, Rae, and Mileson.

I'll take your wee gold star for the monkey-he likes those things, and in return the 90% of muppets who tore me to shreds relentlessly on all three issues for two and more seasons can sook on a big widden spoon. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-24 07:50:23
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jan 24 2008, 07:43 AM) [snapback]389362[/snapback]
I think the fact that you have sub-labeled your thread 'absolute bollocks', just about sums up this content.

Fair enough criticising his ability, but no way can you criticise his passion for the club or desire to see Morton succeed.

If Hitler, Mussolini et al spring to mind then I'd suggest you check out this site... All Knowledge in the World.

Hmmm sytematic ethnic cleansing v poor running of a football club? Yeah, suppose there really isn't much of a difference.

Rae is a benign dictator in my book-that was quite clearly the nature of the slightly tongue in cheek comparison, as I'm sure most posters with half a brain have already surmised.

I have stated nowhere that Mr Rae does not have passion for the club, and if he doesn't desire to see it succeed, he should be shot.

What I have tried to highlight is that the man's ego and personality have now made him a liability-in that respect I am questioning his ability, so we are in agreement on this issue.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 07:57:35 IMHO Jay Shields could have done a competent job at right back, AND he gave 100% effort throughout a game.

Can it be that guys with baws don't fit in at this club-but keep in with the powers that be and you're on easy street it seems! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-24 08:00:44 No doubt Alibi can enlighten us-I expect the safety certificate refers to the S.P.L., so maybe there is a loophole.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 08:06:10
QUOTE(McCauley87 @ Jan 23 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]389098[/snapback]
I could be completely wrong here but do they not call it something like "dogging" up somewhere in or around Paisley?

Correct-in Pishley one 'dogs' school.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 08:07:41 Having a square meal?
mortonjag 2008-01-24 08:09:33 So long ago I'd forgotten, but Sheena Easton used to baby sit for us!
mortonjag 2008-01-24 08:11:52 The Beatles success speaks for itself-they had that something extra that only comes around once in a while. Mind you I'd rather listen to the Stones (well most of the time).
mortonjag 2008-01-24 10:01:26
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 24 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]389388[/snapback]
What pissed me off last night was listening to the so called pundits on the radio going on about how the postponement was going to cause havoc with the old firm fixtures, these people live in a football bubble and don't give a toss about the fans of teams like Morton and Gretna who spent a lot of money for nothing last night.
If this was a Rangers v Celtic game that was cancelled an hour before kick/off then we would still be hearing and reading about this time next year.

Indeed-when we got back to the car and tuned into Rado Scotland (from Ibrox), you'd have thought the first thing they'd have done on the programme was to warn fans that our game was off, but NO-they had to rabbit on about Rangers v E Stirling first. Mind you it was interesting to hear 'Cowboy' on the wireless-he sounds as if he knows the business.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 11:00:16
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 24 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]389409[/snapback]
I'm think you sit directly behind me, as I heard an old guy refer to Iain Russell as "leafy" once I'm sure.

If you're serious, p.m. me with your stand seat number, and I'll happily let you shake the hand of this deranged old fool! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-24 13:28:38
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jan 24 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]389442[/snapback]
Used to be dogging the school in bourtreehill, but that was nearly 25 years ago.

I've heard plugging, plunking, skidging, skiving, and dogging, and those have all been in what used to be Renfrewshire and Lanarkshire-must be dozens more throughout the country.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 13:32:12
QUOTE(Tooth & Nail @ Jan 24 2008, 01:26 PM) [snapback]389444[/snapback]
EXCLUSIVE NEWS:

Our Scottish Cup fourth-round replay against Gretna will now go ahead at Palmerston Park, home of Queen of the South, on Monday 28th January, at 7.45pm.

If we lose, and we won't, Gretna will give up home advantage and play their fifth-round tie against Queen of the South at Palmerston Park on Saturday, 2nd February.

The Motherwell v Dundee fifth-round tie will take place at Fir Park, Motherwell, on Saturday 2nd February.

They should just play the bloody thing at Cappielow for all the difference it will make-now 27 poor bumpkins have to traipse to Dumfries from Gretna when they've only just mastered the road to Motherwell.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 14:13:05
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Jan 24 2008, 02:09 PM) [snapback]389481[/snapback]
In the first ten minutes of Sportsound they spoke to Murdo McLeod and Bill Leckie (their commentary team from Fir Park) as well as Davie Irons and Jim McInally. Though it was ridiculous that the one-sided gubbing at Ibrox would have been their main commentary game even if our game had gone ahead.

That's right but the point I'm making is that many hundred Ton fans were still in cars/buses when the programme started-I feel an immediate announcement should have been made, but they dallied about with the Ibrox lot for two or three minutes first!
mortonjag 2008-01-24 14:17:13 Ask the f*ckin' SFA-they're sure to have an answer reason excuse lie waiting for you.

Maybe Mr Mileson's been buying Gordon Smith free fish suppers!
mortonjag 2008-01-24 17:41:56 Mr Muscles-you haven't replied to my posts or p.m. I'm fascinated to know who you are, and exactly what your position is in the pecking order at Cappielow.

C'mon now-don't be shy-after all you weren't coy about revealing MY personal details to all and sundry.

There again, if you're a chip off the Maister's block, you probably think you can do exactly what you please to the scummy fans, and walk away unscathed.

Well-WHO ARE YOU-and more to the point, if you're revealing the fans' personal details on here, what else are you doing with them? mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-24 20:29:54
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jan 24 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]389803[/snapback]
cheers for clearing that one up for me, always wondered where it derived from!

My uncle was from Tiree and Gaelic was his first language, but he always used expressions like 'Come ben', or 'He's ben the room'.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 20:54:31 You'd think the SFA would be doing there damdest to make it difficult for the biggest joke in Scottish football in all history. Instead, they seem to be pandering to a shower of short sighted fools at Gretna.

The bumpkins' home ground is currently Fir Park-if they can't have their ground ready for the tie, the advantage should be ours.

F*cking outrageous, and I've told them so in no uncertain terms.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 21:13:24
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jan 24 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]389841[/snapback]
Takes one to know one!

Anyway, your little article is far to0 inflammatory to be taken seriously, I mean for a start I've heard that Hitler didn't even like sweeties, so that comparison falls down there and then.

I honestly believes that DDFR is in this venture purely for the love of the club and has been since the start and no doubt for a little ego massaging from time to time, but that's fair enough and I am not one to get so riled up as to post a topic about the witterings of an old chap in a programme every other week. Let him have his 15 minutes.

I think the vast, vast majority of people concerned with the club realise that it could be run better than it is at the moment and this messageboard has highlighted numerous deficiencies and failings of the club over the past 5 or 6 years. But a lot of good things have also happened to the club during that period:
-Pitch relayed and excellent ground-staff employed
-Pitch covers bought so that every game can be played (unlike last night!)
-Both stands re-roofed with new floodlights
-Cowshed partially seated and new toilets and snack bar at the back
-About £2-300,000 in transfer fees spent (albeit not on ideal targets, but spent nonetheless)
-Excellent training facility (our own)
-And most importantly for the fans, 2 Championships.

Alright it has taken time for the promotion back to the First Division, but DDFR has certainly not taken us backwards and in no way has any intention of selling us down the river.

He has his flaws in terms of communication and delegating and generally just being a little old (no offence MJ! wink.gif ) perhaps to run a football club successfully. It would be nice if in the next year or so somebody was appointed to take over the day to day running of the club, and I for one would not mind if DDFR was still chairman but in title only.

I like the spin!

I've no intention of spoiling it by pointlessly arguing with the positives, but nothing alters the fact that we currently appear to be going backwards, that play offs seem to be looming, that signing targets are never hit, that crowds are down, that previously patient fans are baying for the manager's head, and that Mr Rae appears to chunter on blissfully unaware that he's now undoing all his previous good work.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 21:24:09
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jan 24 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]389843[/snapback]
Absolutely agree, I was making the point though that the couple of hundred pounds a week that Jay would have made could probably run a youth set-up from week to week, or certainly employ somebody, or even a couple part-time!

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FFS, you've just been extolling Shoogly's virtues in another post. If he'd instituted a proper youth set up from the word go, (at relatively minimal cost), similar to what Hamilton have done so successfully, the first team would probably be sorting itself out by now AND we might just have landed one or two decent transfer fees!
mortonjag 2008-01-24 21:30:44 Some Ton fans may be, but I like to think that the real reason for supporting Morton in favour of the OF is intelligence.

What do you imagine is the average IQ on a Parkhead or Ibrox bound bus leaving Inverclyde-probably 20 points lower than that of a Ton crowd!

BTW, for once, I'm not being provocative-I genuinely think that most of that lot are thicker than treacle.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 22:07:47
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 24 2008, 09:55 PM) [snapback]389878[/snapback]
i know the club is wrong, and the game shouldnt be played there. but you cant blame their fans for it, which is the point im making. and that me as a morton fan isnt more important than a gretna fan as a gretna fan, just because together there is more of us. even if theres only 30 gretna fans, they dont pay to see them using monopoly money....they work hard all week to be able to follow their team.

Sorry, but I can't agree-Mileson sold them down the Solway by being unprepared for the SPL. They were happy enough to gloat when they 'cheated' us out of promotion with his filthy lucre, so as far as I'm concerned they have to take the bad with the good.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 22:12:51
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 24 2008, 07:40 PM) [snapback]389782[/snapback]
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Aye DE but it's amazing how many bodies can be crammed into a transit van! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-24 22:17:14
QUOTE(dmc @ Jan 24 2008, 09:42 PM) [snapback]389867[/snapback]
Do you have any idea how sad that is? laugh.gif

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It's a damned sight more intelligent than traipsing half way around the town, surely!
mortonjag 2008-01-24 22:57:31
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 24 2008, 10:34 PM) [snapback]389907[/snapback]
they did not cheat us out of promotion, we had our chance to be promoted and blew it against peterhead.

gretna's money won them the league that year, just as our money won us the league last year. celtics money won them the league last year, man utds money won them the league last year, real madrids money won them the league last year, inter milans money won them the league last year, portos money won them the league last year.

the list goes on and on, its the way football works.

Aye they did! The differential between Mileson's spending and ours that year was unprecedented in any other Scottish season I can remember, and the bonuses the players were receiving were enormous. I did use the term 'cheat'-I didn't say they broke any rules, and , sure, money talks, but they've had their 'day in the sun', and as far as I'm concerned they can string Pony Tail up, or feed him to the nearest combine harvester. He's ultimately offered nothing to Scottish football, let alone the Gretna fans.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 23:04:42
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 24 2008, 10:57 PM) [snapback]389928[/snapback]
Have always said tatties blink.gif

We used to sing this in primary school in the Port

Doh re me, when ah wis wee ah used to peel the tatties
but noo ahm big, an ah can dig an ah can kiss the lassies.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 23:09:53
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 24 2008, 11:03 PM) [snapback]389932[/snapback]
I'm sorry, you're right.

I think Rae should gas the lot of them (see MortonJag's post)


Recent 15% hike in gas prices-nae chance-Shoogly's more likely to drown them in a vat of boiling sugar, and produce yet another variety of his world famous toffees.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 23:22:12
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 24 2008, 11:12 PM) [snapback]389939[/snapback]
Can the monkey go in too? wink.gif

The monkey's allergic to sugar-it would bring him out in a rash.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 23:33:21
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 24 2008, 11:06 PM) [snapback]389935[/snapback]
so someone actually put money into scottish football, how dare he. it wasnt just gretna he gave money too, he paid for berwicks supporters club to stay open and donated to lots of other clubs.

apart from getting the whole world interested in the scottish cup when gretna got to the final. yeah their bubble may be bursting now but im sure it was fun for them while it lasted.

miles brookson and gretna have offered more to scottish football in the last few years than dougie rae and morton have.

the moment i start to feel annoyed when someone has the audacity to put money into scottish football is the moment i decide to stop watching scottish football.

Mileson's glory trip makes Dougie Rae look like Carnegie, and to describe his ludicrously ill thought out shennanigans as 'Putting money into Scottish football' is generous to a fault.

Sure, some have benefitted briefly, but the whole Gretna FC farce has become transparent, and there will be much weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth when he finally and inevitably pulls the plug!
mortonjag 2008-01-24 23:36:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 24 2008, 11:26 PM) [snapback]389945[/snapback]
Would you be supporting the rash about a week later? blink.gif ohmy.gif

That's puzzled me-the point is the monkey's not going in-FFS he can't even swim.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 23:37:49
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jan 24 2008, 11:34 PM) [snapback]389949[/snapback]
Not before they gub us

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mortonjag 2008-01-24 23:51:25
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jan 24 2008, 11:32 PM) [snapback]389947[/snapback]
Yep Totties it is

Always remember my mum telling me years ago when loads of Greenock women left on buses for Ayrs***e to pick the Totties. They made a few bob doing that years back. She took my older bro down for the day and he lasted 2 hours then went a walk lol

Chambers' dictionary has 'tattie' as a'potato,and 'tottie' as 'a very small child'-mind you we did talk about 'tottie howkers'-maybe an early form of paedophile.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 00:04:26
QUOTE(dmc @ Jan 24 2008, 11:59 PM) [snapback]389960[/snapback]
f***in' hell am I dead???? ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

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Nope-you read correctly, and I'll always give credit where I believe it's due! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-25 00:06:09 unsure.gif wacko.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-25 00:22:19 Quote---'Wuld you be Anyone who makes 13,000 posts in just over two years is bound to make the odd valid point. This said, the vast majority of his posts were pursuing an anti-DDF agenda that most people found boring. Given that he accidentally outed himself in late November, I doubt we'll see another post from him - unless he adopts a new alias to pursue his personal vendetta against the Chairman. Good riddance I say' (Smithston)


Quote--- 'Well said that man'! smile.gif (Russell's Muscles)


laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif Accidentally 'outed' myself!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Well Mr Muscles-yer mate was a wee bit premature I guess-do you think we'll ever see YOU again-I bet Shoogly will ram a giant Fudgy Wudgy up yer arse if he hears you've been publicising confidential club information.

Would you be at all offended if I described you as a sycophantic snake? wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-25 00:38:32
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 25 2008, 12:32 AM) [snapback]389968[/snapback]
donga broon and puggsy broon

doesn't matter a f*** what chamber's dictionary says! do they have an inverclyde dialect section?

Of course it matters-Chambers has always been a Scottish dictionary and incorporates the most commonly used dialect words (which you won't get in the Oxford for example).

All I'm pointing out is that 'tattie' is recognised AS a Scottish dialect word, whereas 'tottie'is not.

I've agreed with your point-we used both terms in Inverclyde.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 00:40:35
QUOTE(ian clinging @ Jan 25 2008, 12:12 AM) [snapback]389965[/snapback]
Morton shouldn't have agreed to switch of tie. Agreed even with mortonjag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

laugh.gif It's becoming far too common, my old friend-I'm obviously losing my touch!
mortonjag 2008-01-25 00:43:26
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jan 25 2008, 12:40 AM) [snapback]389971[/snapback]
Whooooaaaaaa there MJ, we bit below the belt my friend

It wasn't meant to offend-howking simply means 'picking up', and I believe that's what those unsavoury characters attempt to do.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 07:21:36 Scary stuff this is becoming-if we play as against Gretna-fine-if we repeat our last two league performances, not only will it be the final straw for many, but I guess JM must leave. It's entirely in the players hands IMO, and I don't care what anybody says otherwise, the stories of a united squad, right behind the Manager are wearing VERY thin.

The monkey has tossed a coin-the verdict-we secure an honourable 1-1 draw, with the much maligned Leafy finally scoring a true striker's goal! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-25 07:22:46
QUOTE(CraigoTON @ Jan 25 2008, 02:01 AM) [snapback]389991[/snapback]
keep the faith...

I did in August!!! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-25 07:27:58
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 25 2008, 03:19 AM) [snapback]389999[/snapback]
As mentioned earlier - "Slice" is strictly an Inverclyde term, and I really can't understand why. It just seems far more fitting than "square sausage" or "lorne sausage".

And "skidging" - a fine word.
And..."at the end of the day". Really, what on earth does the end of the day have to do with anything???

Aye 'slice' has produced the basis for many a square meal!!!

'Square' meal is derived from the square tables with raised edges used on the old sailing ships to prevent the plates slipping off in stormy weather, BTW.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 07:32:50
QUOTE(mortonxno1 @ Jan 24 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]389896[/snapback]
I take serious offence to that, as i am a Rangers supporter but also a Morton Supporter. Last season my seasopn ticket was valid for Ibrox, but I attended most Morton Home and Away Matches, compared with Rangers.



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One of my sons is in the same sad predicament-I haven't a clue why he went over to the dark side, and my daughter supports the Tims, but she's inherited her mother's genes.

Anyway, they both agree when pushed, that the common 5/8ths at both clubs are nothing to boast about!
mortonjag 2008-01-25 07:37:58 249 today and still going strong!


I love this verse from Holy Willie's prayer...


O Lord, Thou kens what zeal I bear,
When drinkers drink, an' swearers swear,
An' sining here, an' dancin there,
Wi great and sma';
For I am keepit by Thy fear
Free frae them a'
mortonjag 2008-01-25 08:43:32
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Jan 25 2008, 08:39 AM) [snapback]390016[/snapback]
Terry Butcher

The Herald

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He's not exactly a McLeish or Smith and of course (whisper) he's one of them, but he certainly has a good record as a bullish motivator-remember what Jack Charlton did for Ireland!

I guess it could be worse.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 09:34:44 Jimbo's potential has not been fulfilled, albeit he's still a young lad. I've always believed a decent manager could turn it around for him, but a valuation of £250,000 based on this season's form in Division 1 is totally outrageous IMHO.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 09:43:01
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 25 2008, 09:19 AM) [snapback]390027[/snapback]
Some people just don't get it do they? Your analogy to Hyde Park is ridiculous. The same stadium the night before hosts a game of football in the same competition with arguably a higher standard on show for £3 a head less. Work it out if you have the brains. It's three quid on top of what we paid for the first game, what many paid to travel to Motherwell on Wednesday and will also be paying to go to Dunfermline on Saturday. As the other posters have said, every penny counts for some as we don't all have the luxury of tapping our parents because we spent too much of our pocket money on Shoot Magazine.

Gretna currently play at Fir Park. They failed to have the ground in a suitable condition for the match, and now thanks to the SFA's incredible pomposity and lack of vision, Morton fans are being heavily penalised. It's got nothing to do with the cost of a one off trip to Palmerston as in a league match. I really feel the club have been very lily livered over this.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 10:44:15
QUOTE(craigeton @ Jan 25 2008, 10:30 AM) [snapback]390066[/snapback]
Totally wrong, despite what you think the players have to play to the managers instructions or tactics (or lack of them).
Which ,going on the past few games, will be to kick it hard and long, which in my opinion will be playing into Dunfermlines' hands. Unless the players can get it together themselves on the park and try to play football despite the manager shouting from the side to punt it, then hiding when we go 1 or 2 down. we are in for a rough ride.
As to stories of a united squad being behind the maneger, I haven't heard any, exactly the opposite in fact.

That is EXACTLY the point I was making, so how am I 'totally wrong'?

I may have missed something as I was off site for two months,, but I was saying in the Autumn that I felt there was unease in the dressing room, and as always was told I was spouting pish!!!
mortonjag 2008-01-25 10:49:51
QUOTE(craigeton @ Jan 25 2008, 10:36 AM) [snapback]390071[/snapback]
You guys are completely on the wrong track. Do you really think Jenkins or anyone else for that matter will make a difference? As long as we have the present management team we could sign Rooney and Ronaldo and it still wouldn't make any difference.
I've said before, any half way competent manager could have this squad of players finish in the top 5.
It would be too much to ask for a competent one.

What you seem to be saying in your last couple of posts is that, as I always suggested, we won last year in spite of the manager.

This season, as you suggest, we're not a mile away from doing 'no bad', and many posters have agreed that signing two or three seasoned professionals CAN make up for managerial incompetence, though I agree that JM should go.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 11:02:40 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Everybody seems to see this valuation in a different light! It's funny how Jimbo can get ripped to shreds regularly (and his form hasn't been that great for quite a while) on the forum, yet as soon as a third party shows interest he's worth his weight in gold. If he's not for sale, the club simply have to say so. The figure of 1/4 million seen as a REAL valuation, is frankly a joke, but for the boy's sake, he'd be better out of here right now, as he definitely has potential.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 11:09:08
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 25 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]390092[/snapback]
It is worth pointing out that Rabbie was a monarchist-a jacobite monarchist.

At Stirling castle

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This man describes Mortonjag as a


TROLL


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mortonjag 2008-01-25 11:15:58
QUOTE(craigeton @ Jan 25 2008, 11:05 AM) [snapback]390096[/snapback]
I think we are agreeing on the same principle here, in that Macinally hasn't a clue, but it's very hard for the players to try and get it together on the park themselves with no help or instruction from the side(apart from hoof it).
I f you are at the game tomorrow just watch the dugout and you will see the only tactics he shouts are to Ryan to 'get it up the park' Whether there is a player to pass it to or not. Pathetic.

I'm at every game, and I've previously described JM as an Egyptian Mummy-what I DID notice was that at our last very low point (the away match with Dundee) he was blethering to God on the touchline for ten minutes before the kick-off, and during that match (the one when the other Rae was sent to the stand) JM was jumping about all over the place and bellowing instructions to the players.

It's extremely incongruous to say the least, but I'm convinced Shoogly spelled it out that day, and tomorrow's going to be a similar scenario, NOT that I think it will make much difference either way.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 11:19:35
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jan 25 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]390100[/snapback]
what would you say is a fair valuation of him?

That's the problem Greacen-on current form (barring a couple of decent recent matches) I'd not put him over £75,000.

That said, a club with vision, who have watched the boy over the last few years might reasonably offer twice that, and if I were Rae, I'd take it.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 11:22:20
QUOTE(craigeton @ Jan 25 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]390107[/snapback]
On your first point, no I'm not saying that, he and the players won the league and I give them the credit for that.

On the second point I disagree as I have said before we have a good enough playing staff for a top 5 finish.
I am not saying we couldn't use some more good players.
Take the signing of McGuffie, personally I don't think he was any better than what we had, but since he came into the team he hasn't been allowed to play because of the route one football we are trying to play. Jenkins would be the same, what is the point in having a team loaded with midfield players, then bypass them with hoof it tactics.
I could understand him playing this long ball crap if we were getting results but someone should tell him we aren't.

Macinallys' time at Morton is finished, I don't think he can do anymore unfortunately he doesn't seem to think so and neither does Rae. Unless Macinally goes of his own accord I think he's here for as long as he wants to be.

No way-Rae will inevitably punt him to 'save face' if matters don't improve.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 11:37:53
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jan 25 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]390113[/snapback]
MJ, like craigeton, i hope you are right, but, will this be too late to salvage anything from the season? If Dundee hadn't scored in the 90th min on Saturday we'd already be second bottom having played a game more than Clyde.

The fortunate thing is that we're not adrift of the pack. I've not been getting enough abuse recently, so I'll suggest that if we brought in a decent manager and three experienced players right now we could finish in the first three!
mortonjag 2008-01-25 11:42:13
QUOTE(craigeton @ Jan 25 2008, 11:23 AM) [snapback]390110[/snapback]
I wasn't at that game, personally I thought our last low point was the Livi game but I'm nitpicking here as there has been so many lately.
I'm not sure I know what you mean by 'Shoogly spelled it out that day'.

Just what I said-we had come off a very poor run, and prior to the game JM and Shoogly were deep in conversation-I remember saying to my brother-'That's a piece of nonsense-the manager should be with his players'-then-as I described, JM came out and jumped about like a bloody Jack in the Box-totally out of character.

I thought at the time that Rae may well have issued some kind of ultimatum.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 11:54:23
QUOTE(El gofer @ Jan 25 2008, 11:25 AM) [snapback]390112[/snapback]
So you think the club should undersell one of the only player assets we have?
As Rodder said, this guy is not even an agent. A provocateur maybe but not an agent.

I would have been raging if Rae had come out with a figure lower than £150000. Ross McCormack for £3M? Obviously Motherwell wont get that but their starting position is aimed to make sure that they get the best deal.

We are under no pressure to sell Jim. Does this guy Callaghan speak for him? If so then it sounds like he wants to go. If not then the guy is a charlatan who is chasing the money and unsettling our player.

Def do not want him to go just now. If he wants to go then we wait til the summer.

TBH I think Jimbo was showing himself as a much better asset one and a half seasons ago when Warnock was sniffing around. Of course I don't want to lose him, but I sense that the boy 's ready to move on, and maybe the best thing for all would be for the club to cut its losses and accept a reasonable figure. To be frank, I DON'T see him improving much under the current regime.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 11:58:44
QUOTE(hartleyhare @ Jan 25 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]390114[/snapback]
So you advocate selling on a quality first team player at a time of difficulty but are critical (on other threads) because we are not bringing in quality?

I am critical because we are not bringing in EXPERIENCED professionals who can motivate the others.

McAlister has many admirable qualities, but like Harding, Russell, and a couple of others, he frequently looks totally devoid of ideas, and the final product is often a huge disappointment. Those young boys all need guidance on the pitch-guidance they're definitely not getting from the dugout.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 12:09:13
QUOTE(stu_1874 @ Jan 25 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]390130[/snapback]
so did anyone email them? and if so, any replies yet?

Aye---and


NO!!!
mortonjag 2008-01-25 12:11:33
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jan 25 2008, 12:06 PM) [snapback]390131[/snapback]
When he was playing against lesser players - this is his (and the other players) 1st season in a higher division, I for one think he will continue to improve and we should be trying to keep our best players (and strengthen) not get shot of them.

As I've said, I don't hold out much hope for real improvement under the present regime-in another scenario I'd totally agree.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 12:15:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 25 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]390126[/snapback]
I'm away to pipe at an old folks home.

I'm getting paid but I still class it as a good deed as the place is totally miserable!!!!

So I'm getting into heaven if I get hit by a truck within the next month (as long as I don't cancel it out). smile.gif

That's not PC any more young man! wink.gif

Anyhow, why do you describe those bustling and vibrant edifices, crammed as they are with the cream of the country's wisdom and experience, as 'miserable'? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-25 12:19:00
QUOTE(tontric @ Jan 25 2008, 12:17 PM) [snapback]390141[/snapback]
Noticed that Roy Carroll is trying to secure his release from Rangers but Mr Smith is preventing this until he can sort out backup for McGregor.

I don't know how Robinson's loan deal has been structured but could this mean he is recalled? If so this leaves us without a sub keeper.

Young Robinson's miles away from SPL football at the moment IMO.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 12:38:25
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 25 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]390155[/snapback]
Yip, Rae's over 50 so maybe he can get a discount on a holiday.

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On the Titanic?
mortonjag 2008-01-25 12:40:32
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 25 2008, 12:38 PM) [snapback]390160[/snapback]
i stopped reading after " Daily Star "

jim's representative is probably the coffee boy at the newspaper.

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Coffee boy at the 'STAR'

Something not quite right there! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-25 12:59:54
QUOTE(Davy B Ton @ Jan 25 2008, 12:57 PM) [snapback]390175[/snapback]
Aye it's proper pelting it down here in Edinburgh and all. If it stays like this tomorrow I'd imagine the game would be off.

Does East End Park flood easily-I remember well the last game we played there-it was pissing down but the pitch wasn't too bad. There's no risk of overnight frost anyway, according to the forecast.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 13:17:01
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jan 25 2008, 01:09 PM) [snapback]390184[/snapback]
id say he's the only player who doesnt get ott abuse.

He get's off pretty lightly most of the time because of his work rate and attitude, but there was a spell not so long ago when he was the victim of quite a few nasty remarks, and the truth is that despite all his good points, Jimbo has had several longish spells when he's been completely 'off the boil'.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 13:29:15
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 25 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]390185[/snapback]
I agree.

All things being equal I'd say his valuation's maybe a quarter of that on present form, but we're in a position where we need to hold onto our assets unless we get a huge offer.

On a quite unrelated note, I'd love to see the agent find a Premiership regular for £250,000.

I've been musing for some time about the economics of splashing some cash on a real entertainer, and before everybody starts asking 'Who and for how much?', I can't really provide an answer.

I do, however, know that the current crowds are WELL short of expectation-even boosting the average by 500 per game would net us some £150-200,000 over the course of a season. Let's face it people come to get some excitement, and a 'name' will always pull in the floaters.

Russell Latapy springs to mind-surely Falkirk wouldn't bust our bank for a guy who has probably run his course at SPL level but is still great to watch, and there must be others in the same mould.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 13:48:00
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 25 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]390198[/snapback]
Davie Hopkin and Alan Mahood? biggrin.gif

Aye-linked together inside a pantomime horse-that would give us a laugh-no I was thinking more of somebody in the Andy Ritchie category-I'm sure you must know what I'm driving at-how many of the current squad 'entertain'? I'd suggest that since Cowboy hung up his chaps, the standard of football-as a spectacle-produced for us has got worse and worse.

Are there no entertainers left in the game, barring the comedians with whistles?
mortonjag 2008-01-25 13:52:25
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 25 2008, 01:16 PM) [snapback]390187[/snapback]
And the rest of what I said was? tongue.gif

Head chef was going off his nut because the 2 big haggis' for the addressing he had got from his butcher were aboslutely rancid. Smell was awful, and this was coming fom 3 guys who really enjoy haggis. The smell when the guy sliced into it was dire!

He was lucky he had bought tinned stuff incase of any emergencies so the residents will get their supper. And one butcher will be getting a sever bollocking!



I can but sympathise with their culinary angst!

I should suggest as punishment for the blundering butcher that he be forced to stand naked before the big open fire, where the residents may applaud while his Rabbie burns.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 14:30:25
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 25 2008, 02:14 PM) [snapback]390213[/snapback]
Your point is, caller? wink.gif.....

pointed? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-25 14:34:33
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jan 25 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]390207[/snapback]
whoo hoo reply and safe to say not much cop.

Good morning Stevie

Thank you for your email the contents of which have been noted.

The move to change match venue was taken with full co-operation of the
clubs involved and with the best of intentions with the supporters,
players and match officials safety paramount . I do appreciate your
frustrations however.

Thanks again for taking the trouble to write.

Best wishes
Anne Arthur
Matches Department
0141 616 6039
anne.arthur@scottishfa.co.uk

Coming from the 'matches department' it's not too inflammatory-I've had no reply to mine-maybe I should have been more discreet, but I didn't imagine a lady would be reading it-maybe the SFA IS starting to move out of the ice age!
mortonjag 2008-01-25 14:44:59
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 25 2008, 02:32 PM) [snapback]390218[/snapback]
Aside from him being an absolute failure as a manager everywhere he has been.

Burns should always be our assistant manager, he is the best coach that Scotland has ever had.

*note* I said coach.

How do you define 'absolute failure'-McLeish wasn't perceived as an 'absolute success' at Ibrox, but still got the top job, and Butcher's only second fiddle.

Quite honestly, if the guy was identical in every way, but also Scottish, I bet most fans would be creaming their pants with pleasure.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 15:06:09
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jan 25 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]390226[/snapback]
I've posted this elsewhere, but, i looked at the bench on Saturday at 2-0 down and there was no one we could bring on to change things up front for us.

Weatherson - lack of interest
Russell - lack of quality
Graham - lack of experience

There are no other strikers at the club.

As I too posted elsewhere, we have only TWO forwards listed now in the official squad. Surely that's a record for a first division club!
mortonjag 2008-01-25 15:18:53
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 25 2008, 03:06 PM) [snapback]390233[/snapback]
Nah, I see what you're saying - in a way Andy McLaren was one of those, and for a while it worked out.

That's true-it doesn't take too much to get the 'feel good' factor back. I've often said that if Andy had arrived two or three games earlier, we'd have gone up that season. You're too young to remember but any of the older fans will confirm that in the Hal Stewart era, there was nearly always one, and sometimes two players in a side whom the punters were literally going to watch-Ritchie is the prime example, and McGraw was a huge crowd puller too. I remember when individual odds on scoring were rare, the bookies were offering a price against him netting the first goal against Celtic at Cappielow. Derek McInnes, in his own way, became something of a local hero.

My personal favourite as a youngster was Erik Sorensen-how often do folks go to matches those days to watch the goalie? He was just so different from anything I'd ever seen, and even in the days of a much heavier match ball, he could throw it to a colleague almost on the half way line with power and accuracy.He also saved the first six or seven consecutive penalties against us, and in those days the goalie could not move until the ball was struck.

Aye-entertainment brings in the money!
mortonjag 2008-01-25 15:30:54
QUOTE(smitz @ Jan 25 2008, 03:26 PM) [snapback]390240[/snapback]
well if someone is big enough to try attack you they are big enough to have a few volts fired through them.

It wont kill them anyway, not unless they are prone to major organ failure.

Ill buy it off you if you dont want it! ;-)

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mortonjag 2008-01-25 15:35:17
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jan 25 2008, 03:28 PM) [snapback]390241[/snapback]
Also, as we both posted elsewhere, we could do a lot worse than stick big Greacen up front. He would at least make an effort to win the ball in the air and would be less of a liability than he can be defensively.
My son is adamant that Greacen started out as a center forward, apologies if wrong.

I'm pretty sure I've heard that before too. Stu's greatest asset is that he rarely loses a header where he's been able to time his run-he could be a bloody menace as a sub against a tiring defence-provided that is, that anybody had the guile to play the correct balls in for him.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 16:03:52
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 25 2008, 03:46 PM) [snapback]390255[/snapback]
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He must be because every time a Jim McAlister to Motherwell story appears it's in the Daily Star.
I watched him play in the reserves regularly in the season we signed him and I've rated him highly since.

I've been to every game this season - the vast majority depressing - and almost every match I've thought thank god for Jim McAlister (as well as Chris Millar since he came back into the team). He has talent but like any winger can be inconsistent. He is hungry, determined and always gives 100% which can't be said for some of the players who are thought to be more talented than Jim. For me he is Morton's best player and the one we could make most money from. �250,000 seems a bit much but we aren't in any need to sell and I hope we don't so we can watch Jim progress at Cappielow.

It's not just his inconsistency that's been frustrating me recently, it's his desperation to lay the ball off when he'd be better having a go himself-that and the fact that when he does he 'snatches' at shots and often miscues. That said, he's a tremendous asset to the side--- but whatever gave you the notion he's a winger-you're nearly as bad as the OFFICIAL web site which lists him as a midfielder but in my book---


JIMBO WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A





























farmer's boy.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 16:05:14
QUOTE(Jim @ Jan 25 2008, 03:52 PM) [snapback]390259[/snapback]
the man in black. first game third lanark away, didnt he save a penalty that day. not often i agree with u, but those were the days....

my friend-we thought they'd never end!!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-25 16:13:54
QUOTE(dmc @ Jan 25 2008, 03:54 PM) [snapback]390260[/snapback]
Be very careful as weegieton says they are in fact illegal (as is pepper spray)!
You could be charged with carrying an offensive weapon!

My advice would be to get a personal alarm instead!

Can you still be charged with having an offensive person on your weapon? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-25 17:50:15
QUOTE(Kaney @ Jan 25 2008, 05:35 PM) [snapback]390307[/snapback]
Thats a bit harshly put. unsure.gif
Maybe, 'Morton fan first who has a tendency towards one of the OF because of family support/upbringing'

...or Morton fan who has a tendency towards one of the OF because he's never thought things through!
mortonjag 2008-01-25 17:54:52
QUOTE(Jim @ Jan 25 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]390274[/snapback]
morton3 celtic3. carl bertelson hat trick . left the game that day , had to wait till i got home to see results on tv. ref blew before ball hit the net.it should have been morton4 celtic3

That was CRIMINAL-I'll NEVER forget that 'til the day I die-he blew for full time (or so he claimed) when the ball was in mid flight, but not a single player had taken any heed-it was a perfectly good goal and should have stood.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 17:57:38
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 25 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]390280[/snapback]
I agree that his shooting is a weakness he will have to work on.

Maybe we should get more farmer's boys in. That's probably where he got his work ethic.

I'm sure it is-he just doesn't know when to stop, and for that he deserves tremendous admiration-often you see him out there, ploughing a lone furrow, while the others appear to be under the haystack fast asleep.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 18:02:39
QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Jan 25 2008, 04:30 PM) [snapback]390285[/snapback]
rangers paid around 250k for mcinnes when we just go promoted back to the 1st divison in when he was an unproven player
with no experience at that level

though the financial state at rangers is a whole lot better

i think mcalister is capable to make the step up to the premier league

and at this present time it would be a massive loss to lose him at this point of the season when we need every at the club to help us stay up and prepare them for next season

That's not quite the story-McInnes had demonstrated precocious maturity and leadership for several years before, and had, for example, impressed players like Gascoigne. If Jimbo had Derek's leadership qualities, and a wee bit of his arrogance, he'd be twice the player he is.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 18:10:41
QUOTE(tontastic @ Jan 25 2008, 05:50 PM) [snapback]390311[/snapback]
What do you call the thing you get when you are inoculated (sp?) or given an injection? Its a leading question ... someone told me that south of the border they are given a jab...

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Someone's finally blown my cover-eh-Morton------JAG! tongue.gif

Mind you there was a lovely lady anaesthetist in the old Pishley RAI who used to say to her patients-'Don't worry, you'll just feel a little pr*ck'!
mortonjag 2008-01-25 18:45:03
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Jan 25 2008, 06:25 PM) [snapback]390331[/snapback]
You're a w**kbag.

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C'mon sonny boy that's tres pauvre from a man of your intelligence-I've not been accused of spouting pish, incontinence, dementia, homosexuality, or paedophilia for ages, nor has my sexual potency been called in question.It seems that the only thing I'm doing wrong at the moment is berating Shoogly-little does anyone realise he put me up to it just to make sure we don't forget he's still around.

It seems everybody's now agreeing with me on the major issues,and it's becoming very unsettling not having to cry myself to sleep at night.

BTW why does nobody ever mention Martin Clark-does he actually have a function at Scapa, except for picking up his monthly pay cheque? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-25 19:08:26
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 25 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]390344[/snapback]
No you didn't, you were a moany old fanny then as well. rolleyes.gif

Who are you calling 'a moany old fanny' ya pays bassa?
mortonjag 2008-01-25 19:10:25
QUOTE(calton @ Jan 25 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]390338[/snapback]
Am I the only one who is concerned at our manager saying that we are trying a new formation at the back, as a reason for letting Jay Shields go?

It's not the letting Shields go bit, it's the new formation bit, after all since the new formation has started we have lost 11 goals in 3 games and look terrible at the back.

I would actually prefer Greacen back in defence as none of the present incumbents, attack the ball !! sad.gif

Precisely!!!!!!!!! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-25 19:14:54
QUOTE(HamCam @ Jan 25 2008, 07:07 PM) [snapback]390345[/snapback]
Right someone tell me whit the boy did to get punted huh.gif

Number of Hibbee mates asking the question.

As said when we signed him the view was he had more chance at being a jockey than a footballer. Aside from a willingness to get stuck in all the basics of the game were missing. Sad days indeed when some folk seem willing to accept this standard of player in a Morton jersey.

That's pure mince-were you once taken unexpectedly from behind by a dwarf? Shields was the best right back we've seen since Derek Collins went, and he could play a wee bit of football too-like others he was not given a proper chance to establish himself.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 19:26:28
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 25 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]390348[/snapback]
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Nowt wrong with being a moany old fanny BTW, it was a backhanded compliment. tongue.gif

Seriously, though, I honestly did believe we'd at least sign SOMEBODY with experience before the season started, and it's looking ominous at the moment.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 19:31:14
QUOTE(Mick @ Jan 25 2008, 06:37 PM) [snapback]390337[/snapback]
Folk from Ayrshire ARE weird.....seriously, I think I have a slight phobia about them......

Agayraphobia?
mortonjag 2008-01-25 19:38:19
QUOTE(HamCam @ Jan 25 2008, 07:26 PM) [snapback]390354[/snapback]
Not unexpectedly.

While you no doubt take pride in being the village idiot for this messageboard there is no need to continually demonstrate ignorance of all matters involving football. Perhaps next time you are watching a game you might think to open your eyes. Shields is a very limited footballer - not just my opinion but most folks who have seen him in recent years since coming through the ranks at Hibs.

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So was f*cking Johnny Boyd, but he still stuck to his task and made it very difficult for a winger. BTW Hibs play a division above us at a significantly higher level. Maybe if we had a few more 'limited footballers' who will play for the jersey and less 'hasn't fulfilled promise' shysters, we wouldn't be in the current predicament. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-25 19:43:18
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 25 2008, 07:30 PM) [snapback]390357[/snapback]
January isn't up yet ya moany old fanny.

I cannot argue with fact!


February has not arrived either you perceptive peasant.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 20:01:38
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jan 25 2008, 07:56 PM) [snapback]390369[/snapback]
Promising double act developing here

He can be Eric.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 20:06:06
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 25 2008, 07:59 PM) [snapback]390370[/snapback]
I know where you're coming from, but this is where you can go down a very dangerous route because where do you draw the line? If it were made legal for women to carry these things and they were therefore freely available then you would immediately have the following problems.

1. The women who have them have absolutely no training in their use.
2. How do you ensure they are only used by women?
3. How do you ensure that they are only for defensive purposes? What's to stop someone getting their hands on one and using it to mug someone?

Personally I think legalising yet another potentially lethal weapon would be counter-productive. If that wasn't the case wouldn't the US states that have legal gun ownership be the safest places on the planet? All evidence suggest that the greater the availability of weapons, the higher the probability that they will be use aggressively and illegally.

Would do much more harm than good, in my opinion.

True-if women are allowed to use them, what about frail old men in mobility scooters?
mortonjag 2008-01-25 20:14:57
QUOTE(HamCam @ Jan 25 2008, 08:02 PM) [snapback]390372[/snapback]
The only way Shields made it difficult for a winger was if they tripped over him en-route to the byeline.

We can and must expect better on the park than an oompah loompah playing for the jersey.

I couldn't agree more-we must expect ambition from the Chairman and Board for a start, and please don't imagine I was touting young Shields as a potential world beater-I'm just totally pissed off with players constantly out of position because some muddle headed clown thinks you can build success from a hotch potch of inexperienced utility players.

I DON'T agree that he was nearly as bad as you suggest though. I'm not one for criticising individual players, but Weatherson was repeatedly made to look extremely sheepish when he came up against a tricky winger-aye wee Shields might have tripped or baulked him, but he was far less likely to fully commit himself to a mistimed tackle and allow him a straight run in on goal. The same scenario is prevalent on the left, where (at least in the full back position) I'd far rather see Deano than David McGregor.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 20:43:08
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 25 2008, 08:09 PM) [snapback]390377[/snapback]
I shudder to think of the consequences of an old fanny like you getting their hands on one of these things. rolleyes.gif

Your shuddering is totally justified-I'd wreak havoc on the community here-I already have 27 targets listed in my wee book.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 21:01:31
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jan 25 2008, 08:51 PM) [snapback]390396[/snapback]
Jay Shields was let go for reasons that we will not go into on here.....he was a naughty boy (allegedly sad.gif )..enough said. McInally is only doing what any good manager would do and let the boy leave with his dignity intact and the opportunity to get another job.

You talk with authority-would it not have been better just to announce it on GMFC?
mortonjag 2008-01-25 21:12:02
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 25 2008, 08:55 PM) [snapback]390398[/snapback]
The points in January are as vital as those in February . We should have ensured that our targets ( presuming we have targets ) had arrived earlier . We need some inputise in the team to provide leadership and belief .
The thing is no single player will provide this we have problems everywhere on the park and manager I wouldn't trust to get the best out of any group of players .
I have said several times about Clark and the other coach if we have reduced the playing staff what need is there for so many coaches . If players are leaving to lessen the wage bill then it would seem economical sense to reduce the coaching staff .

Exactly Chris-as soon as a transfer window opens, there's the opportunity to start fixing things, and here we are with well nigh only six days left and nothing fixed. What have we achieved in the league during this period-zilch. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-25 21:22:44
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jan 25 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]390400[/snapback]
A good hearty f*** off regards the bolded bit. Football has f*** all to do with religion to anyone who is not a complete and utter arsehole. I know what you are getting at - but people follow the OF for reason other than religion. If you put religion/gloryhunting then it would have been far more acceptable tbh.

I think everybody in this area knows what he's getting at-would it be simpler to say I follow the OF because I'm a Proddy/Tim, and I hate Tims/Proddies, or I think I do, but to be honest I've never really thought about it, though let's face it, it's f*cking good fun releasing all the tensions of modern life by hating somebody, though when it comes to individual Proddies/Tims like that wee woman next door-aye but that's different, 'cos she's awful nice.


Doh. blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-25 21:31:21
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 25 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]390404[/snapback]
What a load of complete and utter s***e.

Now, now, it depends on the individual butcher.
mortonjag 2008-01-26 06:36:20
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jan 25 2008, 11:07 PM) [snapback]390443[/snapback]
I'm sure that may be correct but they are after all more than likely taking a cut of whatever the transfer fee/signing on fee ? If so they are basically double glazing sales man in posh frocks tongue.gif

They are usually greedy parasitic basturds.
mortonjag 2008-01-26 06:41:03
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jan 25 2008, 11:38 PM) [snapback]390449[/snapback]
And a love-me-jacket for someone in Newlands Glesca tongue.gif

A 'love-me' jacket for Red Admiral Rae of Inverclyde, you mean.
mortonjag 2008-01-26 06:50:54
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jan 25 2008, 11:21 PM) [snapback]390444[/snapback]
I think you may find its the other way round - All of a Sudden we are trying to sign Premier league players , Dougie has been withholding the cash thats why we aint signed anyone pre season

Scott-I realise what's probably been happening recently-I always make the point that Jim hasn't got the players he needs and Rae's the stumbling block.

I'm talking about a game we played at the end of September when we'd only taken two points from the previous five matches and the natives were getting restless. Were you there-if so you know exactly what went on, and no way at that stage had the Manager 'spat the dummy'.
mortonjag 2008-01-26 06:59:03 I agree with you all, except where you say that this is what most fans want and believe is possible. Every time this topic's been raised since Rae took the reins, we've had excuse after excuse for him. I was told repeatedly last season and earlier this season that his strategy was 'consolidation' this year, whatever the f*ck that's supposed to mean.

Consolidation!

Retreat would be more appropriate-it looks like Shoogly doesn't have the balls to put real money where his mouth is.
mortonjag 2008-01-26 07:06:52
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 26 2008, 01:34 AM) [snapback]390474[/snapback]
That's not saying much. The only others I can think of were Bryan Slavin and David Murie and for me Murie was far better than Shields.

I was meaning since Collins went to llama land! Aye Murie was a great servant, and is still popular with the fans.
mortonjag 2008-01-26 07:12:16
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jan 25 2008, 10:38 PM) [snapback]390433[/snapback]
briiiiing me sunshine

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over to Eric!
mortonjag 2008-01-26 07:16:02
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 26 2008, 04:28 AM) [snapback]390493[/snapback]
If you don't him in because you think he's crap at his job then fair enough but I fail to see how being English comes into it. I don't care if we bring in an Englishman, Scotsman or Martian if they give 100% to the job and give their all for our national team.

Anyway Butcher's a decent appointment I think. Perhaps not the most tactically sound manager in the world but he'll be a good guy to have round the place I reckon. Knows how to get players playing for him.

Could Morton not sign Butcher to sort out the mince that's been served up recently?
mortonjag 2008-01-26 07:20:40
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jan 25 2008, 09:38 PM) [snapback]390417[/snapback]
I know fine well what he was getting at. I was simply pointing out that what he states is incorrect. Yes, a lot of people follow the OF because of religious reasons but a lot of others don't. I know people that fit into both categories and inevitably the ones who follow the team for religious reason are the first ones to stop going to games when the team starts to lose and are total tools.

How do you define 'religious reasons' Bishy? That's my whole point-sure it's about bigotry and hatred, and arrogance, and ignorance, but how many of those morons are 'religious' in the true sense of the word.

IMHO all they do is choose a historical religious platform as a foundation for their clannish warmongering.
mortonjag 2008-01-26 07:26:08
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Jan 26 2008, 12:43 AM) [snapback]390464[/snapback]
It's just like Bill Gates with his 'look, I give all this money to help heal aids in Africa', when it is his, rather large, contribution to a perpetuation of a global financial system which, in great part, creates the disparities in wealth and health they try to patch up. Even if they are unaware they are doing this, and they act with the most honest of intentions, it is still their systemic violence which causes the suffering in this first place.

Rangers and Celtic could give Morton alot more then they (allegedly - this 'fact' is neither here nor there) have, but it still wouldn't erase the fact that it is the disparity that they have created which means Morton needed help with cheap material, equipment etc

Obviously on a subjective level it's not quite so simple. Mismanagement of smaller clubs, say under the Scott years, or Hearts right now, create huge problems that are to the detriment of Scottish football as a whole. But the problem is not these situations, the problem is why these situations are allowed to get so bad, and that is because of the system that Scottish football is trapped in because of the Old Firm.

We could endlessly point out reasons why the OF are a scar on Scottish football - the bigotry amongst the fans, the gloryhunters, the patronising tone towards fans of other clubs etc. But these are merely the scar, and parts of the reasons why the system Scottish football finds itself in exists.

The real problem for Scottish football is not any of the reasons usually given. The problem is that a system exists where there is a vacuum created by the Old Firm, fans and money and players are all attracted there to the detriment of all other clubs. This disparity is the reason that clubs need to spend more than they have, bring in too many foreign players, cut corners at all levels of the club, from youth development to the stadium. When all fans and money are attracted to one end (perpetuated probably mainly by certain parts of Scottish culture and those who hold sway over this) then other clubs cannot cope.

And when, at this point of being crippled by the system created by the OF, one of these clubs tries to act all nice and giving and suchlike then it is the true definition of a pointless act; an act which is negated by the very people making this act.

Nice to read a well thought out and constructed post. I think what you're driving at is that the respective OF Boards have historically been greedy 'man mind thyself c*nts', but let's be honest, they're in it to make money.
mortonjag 2008-01-26 07:57:36
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 26 2008, 07:16 AM) [snapback]390515[/snapback]
u don't think most fans want this and think it's possible? unsure.gif i think you're at it and just want to see your avatar 40 times on another 10 pager!
a long time ago sad.gif still could/should happen tho



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No forza-I agree absolutely with your sentiments, but look at what RSBH has just posted. We got the momentum going under Hal Stewart, and if we'd had proper investment at the time could easily have been in the top flight ever since, but Hal was a wheeler dealer with no personal wealth, and sadly things went pear shaped. Since then we've had a whole generation of Ton fans who've grown up in the belief and acceptance that we're a relatively 'wee' club.

Maybe I was a bit silly saying most fans don't 'want' it, but I'm sick of hearing excuses like 'We have to consolidate', 'You have to crawl before you walk', 'If we go up , we'll come straight down', 'We have to build a proper infrastructure first' etc., etc., etc. I could accept some of that if I could see us progressing even slowly, but currently we're in reverse.

Furthermore, I DO believe that a large proportion of Tonsters, if they're honest, DON'T think we can cut it in the S.P.L.

It's a well known fact that in any business start up, you're going to be in the red for quite a while, and a large proportion of new businesses fail not because they are bad ideas, but because the profits are too slow to come in, and the financial institutions lose patience.

In Morton's case Rae has put up the money himself. How does he ever imagine he'll recoup that by languishing in the lower divisions for five and more years. IF he has enough, I believe he should have gone for broke, and targeted the S.P.L from day one. That must always have been his only hope of getting a return on his investment, and it's what he used to claim was his plan, but it's gone awfully quiet on that front.

We now have a Director whose personal wealth makes Shoogly look like a church mouse-a man who could undoubtedly oversee a successful thrust for the S.P.L., but we're told he won't be putting any money in 'at this stage'. That totally mystifies me, when in the remaining six days of the transfer window, he has the opportunity to buy us within striking distance of promotion this year, and create a springboard for S.P.L status in 2009, but apparently he IS only there to 'oversee' matters.


The fact is forza, that under Rae, the fans have been treated very shabbily by a daft old man who's simply been indulging his own selfish interests. Is he incapable of seeing what's really happening to all the initial investment-a better stadium, with new floodlights, and a decent playing surface is f*ck all use in the third division!

If the old bod's train has just hit the buffers financially, I do have a certain sympathy-is Mr Donald about to save his face, and put big cheesy smiles on ours?

Who knows? The 'in word' at Scapa those days is OMERTA.
mortonjag 2008-01-26 08:40:37
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 26 2008, 06:54 AM) [snapback]390507[/snapback]
This season is the first season I can honestly say I've been looking towards a game with no hope in hell of us winning.

Dunfermline by two goals at least and I doubt we'll score

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Just picked this off the Pars Website:


After two consecutive defeats Jim McIntyre and his team will be desperate to get their recovery back on track. Morton are the visitors and although they won on their last trip to West Fife they have only won once since the beginning of December. That solitary win was against foot of the table Stirling at New Year but those who made the trip to Cappielow on Boxing Day will recall how hard they made it for Macca's men to win 1-0 that day sad.gif

If I re-call, both sides were absolute crap that day!!!
mortonjag 2008-01-26 08:47:09
QUOTE(se65an @ Jan 26 2008, 08:37 AM) [snapback]390525[/snapback]
http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.ph...t&p=2172173

Who is this? Found this on P&B
Morton Fans go to the High Court.

A group of Morton fans have made contact with a Glasgow advocate today in the hope that they can get Monday’s cup clash with Gretna stopped. The fans plan to ask a High Court judge for an injunction to stop the game going ahead as the SFA have broken their own rules.
13. Grounds for Ties

Notwithstanding anything which is contained in Rule 11 if a club notifies the Association that it is unable to play a Cup match at its registered ground as detailed in the Official Return
(Rule 6 refers) for whatever reason and the Board is satisfied of the validity of such reason, the match shall be played at the nearest registered ground of equivalent capacity which in the opinion of the Board is most suitable for the occasion. If a replay should be necessary, it will take place at the ground of its opponents.
Gretna's registered ground is Fir Park Stadium, Motherwell.

Raydale does not, in the eyes of the regulations, exist at all.
To clarify therefore:

- Palmerston Park does not have 13,000 seats

- Gretna, under SPL regulations, are not permitted to use standing

accommodation at all

- Palmerston Park is not the nearest ground to Fir Park Stadium, Motherwell
They are incensed at the attitude shown to the fans both for the postponed Fir Park clash and the fact that the SFA are disregarding their own rule book.

A highly regarded maverick advocate is willing to represent them free of charge and will make representation to the High Court on Monday
A number of fans recently contacted the local Greenock Telegraph to voice their disgust at the actions of the SFA and are willing to take them on at the High Court.

Many of the fans wasted money travelling to the game and travel clubs with pre booked buses had to pay for the privilege of turning around in Glasgow and going back to Inverclyde after the game was cancelled with only an hour

to go before kick off.
With the fixture backlog already a problem Monday’s day in court will not be readily anticipated by the administrators at Hampden.

Granting of the fans injunction could throw the Scottish Cup fixtures into complete disarray .



Posted by 'Big Tam 59' of Spammers United Sean-I'd take it with a pinch of salt!
mortonjag 2008-01-26 08:49:32
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 26 2008, 08:37 AM) [snapback]390524[/snapback]
McKenzie's the Butchers could get that lot playing better than McInally

Aye but only Rae can give him the chop.
mortonjag 2008-01-26 08:59:03 Weather forecast for Dunfermline is light rain, 7degrees C, and 22 m.p.h. winds, with no news of a planned pitch inspection. Can we therefore safely assume that the game will not be called off 'til five minutes before kick off? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-26 09:20:30 Gilmour and St Mirren ready to take final steps
GRAEME MACPHERSON January 26 2008

It is a good time to be a St Mirren fan and an even better one to be their chairman. Little wonder then that Stewart Gilmour, who falls into both categories, wears the look of a satisfied man as he surveys the position the Paisley club find themselves in at the start of a transitional year.

On the pitch, Gus MacPherson's side lie in ninth position in the Clydesdale Bank Premier League and, barring a horrific collapse or a Gretna revival to rival Lazarus, seem set to ensure top-flight football for the third season in succession. Off the pitch, the club has cleared its debt of around £2m and is preparing to move to a new 8000-seater stadium less than a mile from their Love Street ground. Stability and then prosperity, however, have not been achieved overnight.

When Gilmour became chairman in 1998 he inherited a financial mess. An earlier regime had spent excessively to try in vain to maintain Premier League status in the early 1990s - paying players like Steve Archibald and Victor exorbitant wages for little return - and the club has spent the best part of the following two decades trying to regain a financial even keel. Gilmour makes it clear the boom and bust mentally has been consigned to the past.


"The club is probably in the best state financially since about 1990 when they were throwing their Scottish Cup money about after the success in 1987 and the Ian Ferguson transfer to Rangers in 1988," he said. "We are now on a much sounder financial footing. Getting rid of the debt and moving to a new stadium is a fresh start.

"What we must ensure is that the club is never allowed to get sucked into that error again of gambling, where you spent a lot of money with no guarantee. The amount of money they the previous board gambled on players in the 1990s was ridiculous and everyone had to pay for it. We're working from a far more solid foundation now. If you look back to where we were at the start of 2007 then the squad is better, the whole financial side of the club has improved, we've no debt and we've got a general manager who is running the club on a day-to-day basis. We're moving forward but at a pace that is controllable. If you try to go big quickly it can all go horribly wrong. That's not going to happen again."

The fallout from that financial mismanagement came to a head in 2005 when, in a desperate bid to clear their lingering debt, St Mirren applied for permission to sell the Love Street stadium, their home since 1894, to a supermarket and build a stadium in the neighbouring Greenhill Road area of Paisley. Renfrewshire Council initially rejected the first part of the plan before local councillors overturned that verdict, safeguarding the club's future. Gilmour reveals he feared the worst had the club's proposals been rejected, with staying at Love Street an impossible alternative.

"If that plan hadn't been successful it could have potentially meant moving out of Paisley and groundsharing, which would have been a slow death for the club. We just couldn't get it to financially add up to redevelop Love Street and we did try hard. It would have been financial suicide and the club might not have survived had we tried to stay. This is the only way forward and, as it happens, we're moving back to our ancestral home. Westmarch was where it all started for St Mirren and our new pitch will only be yards away from that. It's a new era for St Mirren Football Club."

Work on the new stadium began earlier this month and is due to be completed by November. Assuming they can avoid relegation, St Mirren will welcome each of their 11 Clydesdale Bank Premier League opponents for one last time next season then move to their new home in January 2009 for the third round of fixtures. Most of the specifications for the new stadium, to be completed by Tesco before they can take ownership of Love Street, have been decided although the contentious subject of whether to sell the naming rights remains up for debate.

"If somebody comes up with a big cheque then we'll see," said Gilmour. "We're looking at these options although there is a reticence. We're talking to our commercial department and outside advertising companies about what can be generated. Should we just call it St Mirren Park? That is a decision we will need to take at some point."

Gilmour's own future is another thing needing addressed in the not-too-distant future. After 10 years at the helm, he hints he and the board may step down having achieved the goals set in 1998.

"I think we've got a limited time at St Mirren as a board. We are very close to achieving what we set out to do and it will possibly come to a stage, in the next few years, where someone else will try to take it on to the next level. You have a lifespan as a chairman. A lot of people doubted that we could do what we have attained and I think the guys on the board are rightly quite proud of what's been achieved. There have been some pretty hard roads gone down with a lot of tears, grief and heated discussions. But we've come an incredibly long way in that time."


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mortonjag 2008-01-26 09:33:44
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jan 26 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]390546[/snapback]
Looks like Clyde will replace Hendry with another former Hun, in John Brown.

Beeb

Is this bad news for us?

I personally feel that with Clyde's budget and lack of experience Hendry was doing not too bad to keep their heads just about above water.

However, John Brown certainly comes across as a 'no nonsence' coach, which could be just the thing their youngsters need.

Also - we have yet to play them twice, so these certainly look our biggest games now.

John Brown is a decent bloke-and pretty committed-football management's a dodgy game for anybody, but I suspect he'll be one of those who can get the best from limited resources.
mortonjag 2008-01-26 09:45:41 PREMIER LEAGUE PLAYER FOR CAPPIELOW
Would you like a little good news? Allow me to tell you that I have reached agreement with a tall, strong, goal scoring mid-fielder to join us come 1st January, 2008, to join us on a permanent contract.

It would not be right for me to divulge the player’s name while he is still registered and playing for a Premier League Club. Hopefully the new player will be seen in Morton colours when we play Stirling Albion at Stirling on 2nd January, 2008.

I am absolutely delighted that we are gaining the services for such an outstanding and committed player.

Onward and upward!!



Onward and upward!!!

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mortonjag 2008-01-26 09:48:57
QUOTE(ianton @ Jan 26 2008, 09:41 AM) [snapback]390549[/snapback]
he's heart lazy and kidney be bothered

But the manager's been serving up pure tripe-it's been truly offal.
mortonjag 2008-01-26 09:50:49
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Jan 26 2008, 09:45 AM) [snapback]390550[/snapback]
Had it been played at Fir Park on Monday, it would almost certainly have been called off again - the Motherwell v ICT game today is off.

Fingers crossed that their game with the green huns is called off too, and the SPL is in further fixture chaos.

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Thank you Mr Mileson!!!
mortonjag 2008-01-26 10:00:44
QUOTE(monyou @ Jan 26 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]390557[/snapback]
All he needs is a slice of luck, especially with so much at steak........

Rae should re-think the managerial position. He needs to fillet with a man who has decent links in football.
mortonjag 2008-01-26 10:34:40
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jan 26 2008, 09:52 AM) [snapback]390554[/snapback]
1st of January? rolleyes.gif Are you telling us something new, or re hashing old news?

Neither-I was just browsing G.M.F.C. and happened to notice how ironic his utterance has proved to be. If his 'goalscoring' midfielder had not scored his ONLY goal for us against the part time Binos, we'd currently be second bottom on goal difference, and Clyde have a game in hand over us.

Surely we're entitled to expect more exciting news within the next five days! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-26 10:45:30
QUOTE(Green_oak_tree @ Jan 26 2008, 10:20 AM) [snapback]390565[/snapback]
I sincerely hope this is the case, the SFA have obviously broken there own rule to suit, as for the guy who said it's not an SPL competition, that doesn't matter, the rules of the SFA cup state that SPL clubs cannot use terracing at their home ties, any switch of venue must be like for like and be the nearest stadium to their registered home ground.

Those who hope this is a wind up again are bowing down to the clubs and the SFA.

I say go for it.
I'm also all for an organised boycott of a home game in order to get back at the club for turning their back on their fans.
Hit our Chairman were it hurts, his pocket! He gave no consideration to the fans when he agreed to breaking the rules.

I don't get it either-we have a match today as do Gretna-they are stronger by far in depth of squad, and unless we win this cup tie, we're redundant next weekend. Does Rae not WANT to win it-the man becomes a bigger liability by the day as he constantly shoots himself in the foot. That, BTW, is looking at it commercially.

As to the fans-what fans?-Oh that lot-the ones who won't shout encouragement when the players are pure crap, and don't come to matches, let alone bring a friend as I told them to, and boo, and are never happier than when they're having a good old moan on that rag thing Crawford mentioned-THEM-they don't deserve any consideration-in fact we'd probably be better off without them.
mortonjag 2008-01-26 10:57:49
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 26 2008, 10:47 AM) [snapback]390579[/snapback]
Anything in today's papers about this or is it just a wind up right enough ??

A highly regarded maverick advocate is willing to represent them free of charge and will make representation to the High Court on Monday
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mortonjag 2008-01-26 11:24:15
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Jan 26 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]390589[/snapback]
Teams are spending far less money than us and doing fine. Look at Partick, they're skint.

Shouldn't that be 'were'? We're NOT spending money at all right now in real terms-savings on Linn, Sanny, Gardyne, Shields, and some lesser players we've shed, and a couple out on loan, and we've only brought in Smith (short term loan) and McGuffie.

Rae has five days left to claw back some credibility.

Will he? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-26 11:28:44
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 26 2008, 11:22 AM) [snapback]390593[/snapback]
Is that Donald by any chance tongue.gif

Aye, his father was apparently a Morton man in the good old days of yore.
mortonjag 2008-01-26 11:38:30
QUOTE(gunn84 @ Jan 26 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]390601[/snapback]
Well fan here! Was reading through your post as we look like were going to be singing McAlister off you. McCormack wont be leaving for free in any way. The club who takes him in the summer if any will have to pay compensation as hes still only 21. Plus, i've never heard off anyone talk about McCormack being worth 3million. Would love it if that was true though.

Anyway, is this McAlister lad going to be a good player for us if we end up landing him? He seems to have a good record!!

Cheers!!!

McAlister is half way to becoming a decent S.P.L. player, but IMO he's hardly progressed for two seasons. Many at Cappielow, including myself, believe that that's down to poor coaching, poor man management, and poor tactical decisions. I'm not sure HOW good he can be, but he's only 22, and I certainly see him as an S.P.L. player of the future.
mortonjag 2008-01-26 11:55:45
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jan 26 2008, 11:48 AM) [snapback]390612[/snapback]
the word Shipman springs to mind............................. ohmy.gif

...a mere amateur!
mortonjag 2008-01-26 11:59:52
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Jan 26 2008, 11:45 AM) [snapback]390609[/snapback]
Sounds like a nice gesture tongue.gif

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Sounds like Gordon Smith's been getting fish suppers for free from Mr Mileson who's been buying them.

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mortonjag 2008-01-26 12:15:07
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 26 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]390618[/snapback]
It wouldn't surprise me if Mileson was stupid enough to pay for free fish suppers. This man's business acumen goes as far as giving Super Ro a five year rolling deal and trying to get rid of him eight months later

Rich successful businessmen don't apparently take care of their toys!
mortonjag 2008-01-26 12:17:07
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jan 26 2008, 11:57 AM) [snapback]390616[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

you worry me!

I'd never target a fellow Ton supporter!
mortonjag 2008-01-26 12:18:30
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jan 26 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]390619[/snapback]
when I go out to cut up a few wee gangstas, I always make sure I have a 12 foot by ten foot carpet on my shoulder, usually this keeps the police sweet but its a pain in the arrse carrying it up the chooky hen stairs after a night out.

As for a stun gun I'm sure they could be a good laugh on a drunken night out, but what happens if the junkie robbing bassa has on wellies?

You need a flair for it! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-26 12:34:11
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jan 26 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]390625[/snapback]
Thank f for that, where do you practice anyway, incase i ever decide to move!!!!!! laugh.gif

I don't need to practice any more-every one's a winner!

Anyway-toodlepip-off to Dunfermline for that 15-0 victory to the Ton!
mortonjag 2008-01-27 09:13:53
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jan 26 2008, 10:34 PM) [snapback]391215[/snapback]
Credit to you Paddy for your stance in the face of the anti -Mac mob on here. I don't think there's a massive groundswell of opinion against Jim in the general support, contrary to the opinion of a certain poster who wasn't at the game today and who's thrown in the towel (and his season ticket) before a punch has been thrown. AFAIC his views, like his 'scoops' can be largely disregarded laugh.gif

I have wondered previously, how representative this board is of the fanbase. I think it attracts some real 'fanatics' , some of them bordering on obsessive behaviour (I give you exhibit 'A' ............... Mortonjag) I don't mean this in a bad way as I view this board every day (and so a bit obsessive myself)

However, I believe that Jim doesn't have much time to turn things round. The calls of the mob will get increasingly louder and Dougy (and Jim )will only be able to stand so much pressure.

So , good luck to Jim - if he survives this he'll be a much stronger manager at the end of it, but time isn't on his side i'm afraid.

I can refer you to an excellent psychiatrist Cloth Ears.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 09:21:19
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Jan 26 2008, 08:34 PM) [snapback]391104[/snapback]
What evidence is there that the Morton fans want rid of Mc Inally?
A few comments on a message board which is populated by less than half the support doesnt substantiate a majority of fans.
(I'm sure a moderator can let us know how many subscribers we have on here)

You too are welcome to the telephone number of my psychiatrist friend!
mortonjag 2008-01-27 09:29:11
QUOTE(Tinton @ Jan 27 2008, 07:51 AM) [snapback]391303[/snapback]
I don’t believe that this forum qualifies as an accurate sounding board to the opinion of the majority of Morton fans. The vast majority on here share a similar view of the way forward for Morton and there is an endless number of threads calling for the sacking of JM, however if you read them you’ll see it is the same people agreeing with each other over and over again. Indeed there have been loads of polls on the subject that never seem to support the sacking call even when there are many like me who post infrequently and don’t bother to vote in them.

There has been a really good suggestion about getting a petition to hand into Cappielow calling for JM removal, can I suggest that all signatories mark beside their name how much they will be donating towards the cost of terminating JM’s contract.

A third candidate for the psychiatrist's chair!


You guys are more blinkered than JM and Shoogly put together. Has it not penetrated your thick skulls that not very long ago 80% of posters were steadfastly behind JM, and had 'full confidence in his managerial ability'.

That hardly suggests that the board is populated by a shower of JM haters. The simple truth is that reality has dawned for Morton supporters in general, and those who are really enthusiastic about the club they love tend to find their way to our forums---that, gentlemen, is the way it works, whether you like it or not.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 09:42:24 Mr Rae, I'm jist a wee munky, but mye daddy kepes rantyng awn abowt ewe nedyng ah nu manigur.

Eye am kwite gude at ah lot oph fings an wood bee hapie two doo thi taske phor peenutz

Mye wee frend fing (his pikshurz awn thi lepht beesyde mee) wood olso bee hapie too bee ure ah cystunt manigur phor nuffing.

Wee kant prawmis offal mutch, butte wee promis too bee gude an doo ixaktlie whot ewe tel uz

Dadsez phat putes uz inn wipha grate tchance.

Pee ess Mr Rae-wee fink ure wundirfool-fank ewe sew mutch phor ivryfing uve ivur dun


(sined Munx) xxxxx wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-27 10:05:21 Excuses, excuses, and more excuses-listen guys, what you're saying looks O.K. on paper, but REALLY-get a life. I predicted we'd end up in 7th spot, but it wasn't a 'Happy' prediction.

Greenock Morton are potentially a far bigger club than most on your statistics sheet, and Mr Rae promised us he was aiming for the top. Many people have been happy to let him off that hook, but he did-as I've said before-ask Andy Bryan.

Not only has Rae been wantonly squandering some of the resources we had (like or hate Sanny, for example, he WAS an asset in the squad, as were Midge, and even Linn and Gardyne, but we've made an abysmal shambles of signings leaving behind a trail of lies, half truths, and broken promises.

'Don't you think those boys deserve the chance to take us forward' he proclaimed!!! mad.gif

No harm to Iain Russell-he's got ability and works his baws off, but at the end of the day, he was a Division 2 player, just as was Bobby Linn. Ryan McGuffie has had long enough to make an impact-I've no idea why-but he hasn't --despite an excellent history with Gretna. Barry Smith HAS made a difference, but appears unfit, and leaves again in the spring.

Somebody else-Alibi perhaps-has described us as in 'freefall'. That seems a bit dramatic, but it's also got a scarily realistic ring to it.

Rae has FOUR days left to convince us he hasn't totally lost the plot.

Will he? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-27 10:12:48 I've been wondering for a wee while if Jim would secretly be happy to leave. Irrespective of his ability or otherwise, I think he's been sold down the river by a Chairman who knows the buck will stop at his Managers feet.

Maybe elsewhere with a supportive and perceptive Board he will yet prove he can 'cut the mustard'.

Time to go Jim-for your own sake perhaps?
mortonjag 2008-01-27 10:21:52
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jan 26 2008, 10:52 PM) [snapback]391229[/snapback]
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I know those two work for K----norr, but SURELY it's still spelled Caroline!
mortonjag 2008-01-27 10:29:53
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jan 26 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]391099[/snapback]
January has got be the worst month. My favourite month I think is May- weather is pleasant, lots of sunlight and even better less “tax dodgers†in the pubs.

Ditto HT-the sunniest (but not warmest month of the year), and my favourite-still time to look forward to a good summer too.

I detest the dark months-seasonal affective disorder is not a pleasant condition, even in mild doses!

Once took the family up to Tain on Holiday in May, and remember driving up the A9 in gloriously warm sunshine through snow capped hills-utterly beautiful it was.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 11:02:50 Seems that big Sanny rose above the Arbroath defence yesterday to pick his spot in the net-as everybody knows, his head and shoulder are indistinguishable to some referees, but this time the big man got the benefit of the doubt!!! wink.gif

Well done that man, and good luck in a happier place.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 11:09:59
QUOTE(Tooth & Nail @ Jan 26 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]391179[/snapback]
Melville (SNR)

Bryan McGregor midTONs irvineTON

se65an ThornTON Zutons mortonjag laugh.gif

McAllister Melville (me tongue.gif)

Subs: WeegieTon (sub goalie), HardingsHamstring, GibbyTon, port-ton and Alibi

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That's ever so sweet, but really I'd have to decline-apart from being a tad over the hill, I'm only tall enough to kiss Shoogly's arse, and would, in any event, be sacked for failing that standard initiation ceremony.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 11:12:55
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 27 2008, 11:06 AM) [snapback]391347[/snapback]
He's probably just trying to save his own reputation at this point...

Probably-quoted in today's Sunday Mail as claiming yesterday was a good platform for tomorrow's match, with lots of positives, while the Dunfermline JM said 'We've played better and lost!!!!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-27 11:51:09
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Jan 27 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]391367[/snapback]
This is one thing that was glaringly obvious to me more than ever. As we were housed above the dugout yesterday we couldn't see in, but even when Dunfermline were winning the assistant (or McIntyre when he subbed himself) could always be seen right over on the touchline clapping and giving encouragement to the players.

I didn't see McInally once yesterday.

I didn't see JM or Shoogly-is he really abroad?
mortonjag 2008-01-27 12:08:07 JM's almost certainly going to be off in the near future, but it's been incredibly hard to get any real truths from behind the scenes at Cappielow, and I believe that's because there is widespread fear (NOT respect) of the Chairman.

Nobody in his right mind can really see many positives from the present situation-it's a veritable shambles and JM's taking most of the stick, but who is the real culprit? Have his hands been tied? Has he really been allowed to bring in the players he wanted? Has Rae meddled too much in team selection and tactics? Why can't we seem to sign anybody of quality despite rumours 'til we're sick of them?

I can already hear the official announcement that 'We have mutually agreed that Jim has taken the club as far as he can, and parted on amicable terms!!! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-27 12:12:25
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 27 2008, 12:09 PM) [snapback]391374[/snapback]
Well Dougie is a football sage , well according to his programme notes . If he took a look at this rag months ago he would have picked that pearl of wisdom from anyone of fair number of posters .
Long my he reign over us rolleyes.gif

.....God save the King!
mortonjag 2008-01-27 12:15:53
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jan 27 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]391376[/snapback]
Chairman Orifice is well known for sounding off like this. In one of Cowboy's final games he went off on a rant to a couple of supporters about his tactics in the middle of Edinburgh Waverley station, so this doesn't come as a surprise.

Regarding "Watch your back Jim!" The writing has been on the wall for him since Peterhead two seasons ago, he is just biding his time for a payoff, and pissing everyone off in the process. It isn't like he is going to get unfairly dismissed, he has proven he isn't up to the job so he shouldnt need to watch his back.

Football doesn't owe anyone a living, a lot of people involved would do well to realise this.

Well capitANUS-if anyone should know-you're the man! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-27 13:13:01
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 26 2008, 02:56 PM) [snapback]390695[/snapback]
Ye urny kidneying

Maybe he's about to reveal a new manager who won't listen to his mince or sign doughballs.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 13:21:23
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 27 2008, 01:08 PM) [snapback]391387[/snapback]
Ernie there are 2 levels of incompetance at Cappielow . Certainly the tactical shambles and lack of organisation , fight and belief from the players is due to McInally . You know I've questioned his suitablity and commitment to this club in getting the best from all avenues . Sorry to raise this point again his unwillingness to get involved in sorting the youth set up said to me that he had no intention of being force in the long term.
However the off field disappointments from the summer when the club after so many seasons of underachieving should have gained a momentum . A higher level of football , new kit , these things should have been a positive for the finances and profile of the club . They appear to be a hinderance .
The total failure to capture any experienced players to help our eternal young team were negligent in the extreme . The remarks about loyalty to the players from last season ran hollow as Rae had already boasted about targets with 1st division experience . He must have recieved an award for his error strewn programme notes and the praising of Celtic supporters as being the best in Scotland when we are subjected to the if you were real fans you'd kidnap someone and drag them along to see the suffering of another couple of thousand souls who blindly pay in while expecting very little in return .
The Millar saga , he was portrayed as a snake who had went behind the clubs back then we get the other side of the arguement but Chris wouldn't play again according the manager .
His inclusion now is not in doubt as he continually outshines others who are in questionable physical condition .

In JM's favour, you've got to remember that his hands have to some degree been tied, and he's been unable to say what he really thinks. Rae, on the other hand can spin it whichever way he pleases, knowing that nobody has the balls to stand up to the paymaster. That is why I ultimately lay the blame 100% at the Chairman's desk, and let's face it, he could have punted JM after the play offs and did not.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 13:32:48
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Jan 26 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]391083[/snapback]
Just thought I would start a new thread.
From reading all the threads on here, I am beginning to think I am the only one who thinks our manager is up to the job. Maybe its because Im not as young as I was, or because I know I couldnt do the job, but I see no constructive reason for "fans" shouting abuse at their own team or management. I have said on here before, if any layman tried to tell me I was incompetent at my job, I would be less than happy.
Comments most welcome


Paddy

edited cause ma fingers arent spelling correctly...

Paddy -that's really very, very sad when you think about it seriously. What I mean is that most guys with a grain of intelligence would realise if they weren't up to a job, but you not only slag off those who criticise JM, you claim that he IS competent. Well, quite simply, he's NOT, and although I don't personally hurl abuse, it's not against the law!

It's not, mind you, that I expect somebody to willingly walk out of a paid job, but in most professions there are systems in place to protect third parties from the effects of incompetence. If JM was a surgeon, for example, he'd have been prevented from wreaking further havoc ages ago.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 13:46:45
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 27 2008, 01:36 PM) [snapback]391398[/snapback]
In reality he is.

Afterall he's cut the heart and soul out most of the supporters tongue.gif

That is actually SO true Willow-right back to the start of last season when he said we were going to 'have to grind out results'-I NEVER quite understood why-and long before that, he's persistently served up a brand of unadventurous and unattractive football-and it just got worse Sure we raised our game, for example, against Killie, but the very fact that everybody harks back to that match so often is a sad indictment of what's normally been on offer.

Our crowds are now below the level in our 3rd division winning year, when under Cowboy, we actually got a wee bit of excitement. Maybe Shoogly's bank manager will have more success than the fans in forcing the old dodder to wake up and smell the coffee.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 13:49:02
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 27 2008, 01:46 PM) [snapback]391405[/snapback]
Don't be a stickler he's at a Sweetie Convention.

On his return JM will be given the heave ho.

Sweetie Wives' convention?
mortonjag 2008-01-27 13:57:28
QUOTE(Toby @ Jan 27 2008, 01:51 PM) [snapback]391411[/snapback]
Think you're contradicting yourself there tbh. If Jim doesn't have the balls to stand up to his boss then he has to take some responsibility when things go wrong. If Rae is responsible for the likes of team selection, bringing in players, tactics etc. and Jim was to come out and say this, hence put his job on the line then it would exonerate him from blame. However, if this is the case and he's just sitting acepting it then he's got noone to blame but himself.

I've gone for both, but mainly Rae. You cannot blame Rae completely though, McInally has made plenty of mistakes and not standing up for himself may well be his biggest.

I don't disagree with your comments about JM, but what I'm highlighting is that Rae DELIBERATELY chose a man whom he suspected would be putty in his hands-I believe that having total control is still FAR more important to him than the general well being of the club, and for that he must ultimately carry the can IMO.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 14:04:42
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 27 2008, 01:53 PM) [snapback]391412[/snapback]
no they are higher tongue.gif

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Is that after they are adjusted for away support Bryan?

Let me rephrase--

The crowds are rapidly dropping to the level we had in the third division, and if the trend continues we will soon be struggling to get 1500 through the gates of a Saturday.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 14:11:34
QUOTE(Toby @ Jan 27 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]391421[/snapback]
Possibly so, my argument however is that for being such a weak character, McInally has to carry the can for some aspects of what's going wrong. I do see where you're coming from, let's be honest, we've agreed on most things in relation to this But Jim has to take some blame.

I'm sure very few folk will vote for Rae on his own, and I can't argue with what you say about JM, but I'm basing my vote for him STRICTLY on the title of my thread-who ULTIMATELY is the villain of the piece?

To put it differently, under another Chairman, it's possible, if not probable, that the Manager could have had much more success.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 14:16:28
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 27 2008, 02:07 PM) [snapback]391423[/snapback]
Considering the away support was tiny that year they will be higher

02/03 2333
03/04 2895 we had airdrie, accies and dumbarton
04/05 2267 we had dumbarton
05/06 2760 we had thistle and dumbarton and a playoff
06/07 2651 won the title
07/08 2828

At our last game Queens seemed to have a couple of hundred fans-certainly by the vocal support they gave-and we only just cleared the 2000. It's the trend that's very worrying-folk are definitely voting with their feet, and Mr Rae still doesn't seem to understand this inordinate ungratefulness!!!
mortonjag 2008-01-27 14:19:03
QUOTE(Toby @ Jan 27 2008, 02:15 PM) [snapback]391427[/snapback]
Think we can argue about this one til the cows come home tbh, while agreeing with each other on all but the finest points.

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Aye-well we're agreed it's TTG!
mortonjag 2008-01-27 14:45:26
QUOTE(ianton @ Jan 27 2008, 02:33 PM) [snapback]391431[/snapback]
very interesting points all round.the thing that worries me is that rae will pick another puppet to replace the present one.that will be a step to far imho.we are freefalling so fast we will smash into oblivion when we land.now that is scarey.

Where do you imagine our new 'overseer'-Mr Donald will figure in the negotiations for a new manager?
mortonjag 2008-01-27 14:51:10
QUOTE(HamCam @ Jan 27 2008, 01:47 PM) [snapback]391407[/snapback]
Excuse my ignorance but I am old and constantly struggle with all this modern gadgetry.

Finally giving in and letting the kids have mobile phones. Aside from feeling happier that they will be able to keep in touch at their various activities I confess I am all too aware of peer pressure. Astonished at how many youngsters have mobiles and the snobbery about the makes.

Where I am struggling is that I do not want to splash out on the latest costliest phone but would rather buy a reasonably priced pay as you go deal or alternatively I can get old Nokias from work and then (I think) sort out a Sim card. Problem is I know next to nothing about the mobile market.

Any advice on the following:

- Best deal out there at the moment if I choose to buy.
- Is option to use an old phone realistic and if so do you just get the Sim card with call time from somewhere like Tesco ?

Realistically the kids will not use them that much and have concerns they will loose them like everything else after a while.

Any help much appreciated.

I have an excellent wee Nokia which I bought on the Tesco PAYG network for £20. My mate got an older model for a tenner. If it's just a basic but quality mobile you want, they are hard to beat, AND you get clubcard points etc., on the purchase along with free call time on some, and of course on all top-ups.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 14:56:42
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 27 2008, 02:09 PM) [snapback]391424[/snapback]
of course it was tattie howking if you lived in ayrshire huh.gif that's what i said - ayrshire weirdos say tatties. and they hump sheep.

Don't be so daft-Ayrshire is coo country!
mortonjag 2008-01-27 15:04:31 Nobody seems to give a f*ck about this important Scottish Cup Tie-the soul seems to have been ripped from the support, and I wonder how many will make the trip. My brother has a work engagement, so I have to choose whether or not to go all on my lonesome, as the Monkey's frantically reading up football in the hope of landing the new Manager's post.

Haven't yet decided-is it worth it folks-it'll cost about £40 including petrol, pie, and bovril. What do you recommend?
mortonjag 2008-01-27 15:09:58
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 27 2008, 03:05 PM) [snapback]391446[/snapback]
Where did you get a hold of McInally's application from ??

PMSL laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-27 15:30:12
QUOTE(HamCam @ Jan 27 2008, 03:03 PM) [snapback]391444[/snapback]
I cannot see how you can comment with any authority on how the relationship between the two works or otherwise. I know folk who have dealings with both DDFR and JM and would confirm that they are both strong personalities.

Its like a game of cluedo without all the facts. Your problem or maybe my issue with your constant rants is that you seem to have some form of personal agenda with DDFR. I take it you both went to school together and he stole your sweets at playtime or did he get the girl and left you holding the monkey.

In my view the success and failure of the club are generally down to three main factors, the Board, the Management and the Players. Only folk who I do not accept are culpable or otherwise are the supporters.

....and your problem, or maybe my issue with your constant irritation at my posts, is that I have repeatedly stated I have no personal issue with Shoogly, have only met the old codger once, and most certainly did not go to school with a man 15 years my senior.

Frankly it's utterly laughable to suggest that I, or any other perceptive poster for that matter, 'cannot comment with any authority on how the relationship between the Chairman and manager works'.

Unless I'm very much mistaken it's clearer than day that Rae has, and indeed must have the final say in everything. You are, of course, correct when you state we're not privy to the ACTUAL interactions, but to follow your Cluedo analogy, there have been many successful prosecutions based purely on circumstantial evidence.

Now to your original comments about 'strong' personality-what on earth is that supposed to mean?

Have you studied psychology? If so you will acknowledge that any individual can exhibit very strong traits in one type of interaction, whilst being utterly ineffectual in others. What I think you mean is that they can both be a bit pig headed, and to me it's blatantly obvious who gets to the trough first every time.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 15:35:22
QUOTE(HamCam @ Jan 27 2008, 03:14 PM) [snapback]391451[/snapback]
Save the £40 and get yourself a hooker.

As Robin Williams once said on film "You know, you're in more dire need of a blow job than any white man in history."

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Listen Sonny boy-I've possibly had more blow jobs than you've had hot dinners, and not one of them cost me a penny! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-27 15:47:50
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Jan 27 2008, 03:44 PM) [snapback]391467[/snapback]
when guessing quantities or something I often hear a "ballpark figure".. or "ballpart figure"?

I have no idea what these mean

any ideas?

In Reply to: Re: Wanna know the meaning of the phrase posted by Vivek on January 24, 2002

: : Wanna know the maning of the phrase " ballpark figure"

At first, people described rough numerical estimates as "in the ballpark." An estimate that's in the ballpark is somewhere in the vicinity of the real value, as a baseball that a batter hits too far, but not beyond the bleachers, is still in the ballpark. More recently such approximations became known as ballpark figures.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 15:51:28
QUOTE(HamCam @ Jan 27 2008, 03:45 PM) [snapback]391468[/snapback]
Dear Perceptive Poster,

Thank you kindly for your further comments.

Of course you do not have a personal issue with Shoogly. Most folk looking to make a constructive point without being accused of having a personal agenda might not stoop to personal insults and name calling.

How nice of you also to advice me of what I intended in my earlier rambling post. I stand corrected a strong personality is of course the same as being pig headed.

I am not worthy.

Please accept my humble apologies.

Accepted.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 15:57:22
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jan 27 2008, 03:48 PM) [snapback]391473[/snapback]
It is not often nowadays that I bother to read Mortonjag's inane rants but as I forgot to sign in to the site I unfortunately read his latest quote and thought how can it be "clearer than day" does the old duffer mean "as clear as day?"

Just a thought and as I've now signed in the "BLOCKER" will be in force again..thank God!!!

So glad this Philistine has me on 'ignore'. Some folk have no appreciation of the use of our own language.

It's 'as clear as day', that he's totally missed my adaptation of the term in hyperbolic function-oh well-they can't compete and press their little huff buttons with a self satisfied plonk.

Plonk-eh-that must make them plonkers. That's as clear as day to me.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 15:59:45
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 27 2008, 03:14 PM) [snapback]391450[/snapback]
Download paltalk , arrange a donation for the webcast anything from a £1 , buy yourself a good bottle of whisky Langavulin is a lovely smoky half you'll be a tenner up on the deal .

Listen to the game while indulging in your refreshment , make sure you finish the bottle .
Wake up in the morning feeling abit seedy , we are out of the cup you have a sore head but at least you didn't put all that mileage on your car or had to sit in the elements while watching another performance from the walking dead and the Mummy.

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mortonjag 2008-01-27 16:00:28
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jan 27 2008, 03:45 PM) [snapback]391469[/snapback]
Listen Sonny boy-I've possibly had more blow jobs than you've had hot dinners, and not one of them cost me a penny! wink.gif
thats understandable as im sure thai ladyboys prefer to be paid in baht rolleyes.gif

You b*****d-you've been spying on me.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 16:04:29
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jan 27 2008, 04:01 PM) [snapback]391485[/snapback]
If, and I say if, the dismantling of the reserves, fringe players and youth structure is all down to the edicts of DDFR and JM is being over ruled on all fronts on team matters by DDFR then there is only one thing that anyone with a set of balls can and should do and that is to walk away and then spill the beans to the press and supporters. If the foregoing is not the case then only JM is to blame for the spectre of 2nd Division staring us in the face.
On a seperate note his record of "good" signings is seriously in doubt.

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Apologies to ThornTON, but couldn't resist-it's clear as day he means separate!
mortonjag 2008-01-27 16:07:59
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jan 27 2008, 04:05 PM) [snapback]391489[/snapback]
My adaption of your hyberbolic function does not hide the fact that you are an !"asshole" I will not be viewing you next hyberbolic adaption

Good.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 16:10:00
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 27 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]391490[/snapback]
unsure.gif 2,470

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Oh dear Bryan-I can't seem to get anything right today-I'll re-phrase...


...failed to hit 2500! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-27 16:14:47
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Jan 27 2008, 04:10 PM) [snapback]391493[/snapback]
There was more than 10 people singing "Time to go", I can assure u of that!! wink.gif
If the singing couldn't be heard then why was someone over the other side of the stand whinging about backing the team? I find it hard to back a team that gives me nothing back in return.
The guy that got lifted was drinking from a 2 litre bottle of Irn Bru and wouldn't sit down, he was blitzed and being rude to the stewards. He was nothing to do with the singers!!!

It depends where you were seated-we were about four or five rows down from them and maybe twenty yards to the left, and they definitely appeared to be in good voice, and as you say, the other bloke who was getting upset was about the same distance again to our left and below us.

The only thing I found a wee bit unfair, was that up until the Pars scored (when they immediately started to chant) we had actually been doing not too badly.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 16:18:18
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 27 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]391495[/snapback]
if you count the wheelchair bit it did tongue.gif

'The wheelchair bit' laugh.gif

Bryan, you should know better-it's the disabled fans' section surely? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-27 16:23:17
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 27 2008, 04:19 PM) [snapback]391502[/snapback]
laugh.gif pc gone mad no it should be the wheelchair using fans' section

Is there a separate section for disabled fans in wheelchairs as distinct from those who still have some use of their legs?

Serious question BTW?
mortonjag 2008-01-27 16:24:43
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Jan 27 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]391503[/snapback]
It's McInally as he is, a complete and utter tit!

God i hate him.

You hate manpower and you hate tits too-are you a hermaphrodite perchance?
mortonjag 2008-01-27 16:27:31
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 27 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]391505[/snapback]
but i say tottie with a glottal stop and therefore sound dead working class

Do you also say glottal with a glottal stop? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-27 16:31:19
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 27 2008, 04:28 PM) [snapback]391513[/snapback]
not currently....but they can use the stand too

TY!
mortonjag 2008-01-27 17:04:10 Normally the monkey does the predictions, but he's deep in chapter three of 'How to become a football manager without really trying'-it's entitled-'How to keep in with the Chairman and Board without losing control'-so here goes--

Stuffy game with little attractive football until Gretna score their first-we then have a real go at them which doesn't pay off and they score a second on the break, after which they dig in and we offer little more.

Sound familiar? sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-27 20:32:08
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jan 27 2008, 07:36 PM) [snapback]391581[/snapback]
so whit's yer point, caller?

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Can you not read?
mortonjag 2008-01-27 20:46:06
QUOTE(BishopTon @ Jan 27 2008, 05:04 PM) [snapback]391534[/snapback]
Bottom line, if you have no contol of what happens then your a puppet.

therefore i blame Mcinally as he has no back bone, unlike people like Collins who walked away with morals intact.

I have not been back since when sitting in hospitality, Douglas Rae told me that he had sat down with Jim on the Friday and picked the team, i was so stunned i just shook my head, Rae got the jist and just sneaked away.

Dougie Rae wont learn....

That's the kind of fact that the Shooglyphiles consistently deny-even today some bloody goat from the back of beyond was suggesting we don't have any proof of the interactions between them, and the last poster has also stated quite openly that he KNOWS Rae sits in on pre and post match confabs. Add to that his patronising 'Shoogly Peg' comments every week about one player or another. The man is now a liability-it's quite as simple as that.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 20:54:22
QUOTE(Deego @ Jan 27 2008, 07:12 PM) [snapback]391568[/snapback]
Is it possible to chase a pavement? blink.gif

Aye-why do you ask-chasing is a masonry term for trimming an edge with a hammer and bolster chisel-any DIY questions-ask the Monkey!
mortonjag 2008-01-27 21:01:10
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Jan 27 2008, 08:56 PM) [snapback]391615[/snapback]
How dare you accuse me of such a thing. Anyone who knows me knows that I am a man of utmost integrity and morals.

And I havent fished in years. Might have to get a new rod though...

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Your present rod seems to be very effective you naughty boy! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-27 21:10:23
QUOTE(HamCam @ Jan 27 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]391617[/snapback]
Strangely enough many comments that refer to our esteemed leader equally apply to man who has a strange relationship with a monkey. You really need to get over your animal fetish.

I'd suggest that a healthy homo-simian bond is a damned sight more natural than a clandestine homo-caprine shag of convenience once in a while. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-27 21:25:27
QUOTE(HamCam @ Jan 27 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]391621[/snapback]
Each to their own.

To each his own, you've found your own
one and only ewe?
mortonjag 2008-01-27 21:58:22
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Jan 27 2008, 09:49 PM) [snapback]391636[/snapback]
McAlister certainly does, so does Millar, although we now know he'll be off at the season's end.
Anyone else spring to mind?

Very possibly Harding, looks a bit more assured next to Smith.

These players apart, which players still have 'potential' to fulfil (besides an unfit Spoonsy)?

Stevenson is the archetypal example of why NOT to come to Cappielow if you want to develop.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 22:04:01
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Jan 27 2008, 09:59 PM) [snapback]391640[/snapback]
*Looks toward boo-boys in the shed, directing this at them*

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDGracious me-Mr Rae has aged since that was taken at the 'sit in' at Golden Casket!
mortonjag 2008-01-27 22:15:53
QUOTE(capello @ Jan 27 2008, 10:08 PM) [snapback]391644[/snapback]
The guy is a fud!

Did he not say something like the FBI would be hard pushed to find any investment at cappielow after Rae
came in and fixed the shed etc,Rae supposedly invited him down to see the investments but he had other commitents!

guy is a fandan!!!

It sounds as though Mr Rae may have done something to upset him!
mortonjag 2008-01-27 22:20:03
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Jan 27 2008, 10:09 PM) [snapback]391645[/snapback]
He is like most on here, he has reliable sources, they are 'ton fans in the know' rolleyes.gif

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It's not exactly as though the players have to sign the 'Official Secrets Act' form. Quite frankly I'm surprised that we don't hear much more of the goings on behind the scenes.

How anybody can still try to make a case for Rae NOT interfering in everything beggars belief. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-27 22:44:14
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jan 27 2008, 10:33 PM) [snapback]391654[/snapback]
i personally think mcinally should be banned from signing anyone. every player hes brought to the clubs career has been ruined by him.

Strong and forceful comment there Princess-I'm not entirely sure I'd lay ALL the blame at JM's door, but I agree-not one single player has come under the present regime and fulfilled potential.

Huffy McGuffie is the latest victim of this strange phenomenon-is it a virus lurking in the vaults at Scapa?

Perhaps the free fudgy wudgys dished out after morning devotions are infected with a rare form of sleeping sickness.

I have a different theory and it's not exactly revolutionary-too much stick and too little carrot produces a quiet revolution in even the most willing donkey!
mortonjag 2008-01-27 22:54:18 mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-27 23:07:28 That I'm going to wake up tomorrow morning, log on to GMFC.net and discover Shoogly's had a brain transplant under local anaesthetic, signed five non-cup-tied former SPL players, sacked JM, appointed Mark McGhee as manager, and left on a year long round the world trip.

Goodnight and God bless!
mortonjag 2008-01-28 07:35:58
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jan 27 2008, 11:28 PM) [snapback]391688[/snapback]
A striker is a priority. Would have a striker rather than Jenkins.

However my guessing is we will def get Jenkins, but not got a clue about anyone else. Wonder if the name Paul McGowan is still floating about at Scappa.

Hey you-I thought you'd been relatively sensible recently and we're back to this crap-Weatherson, Russell, and Graham are all strikers. The fact that they are not striking doesn't mean they've lost the ability. This needs to be a 'get it sorted campaign-ideally, another goalie, at least two decent defenders, and a midfield dynamo who will kick ass and take no prisoners for 90 minutes. That and a new manager-I'd take Alan Moore tomorrow, but he's only one of many who are miles ahead of JM.

Now none of this is actually impossible if we have enough money, and it's NOT exactly like trying to sign a top premiership name.

The fact that it won't happen is down to Mr Rae. I can't understand why folks get so upset when I have a go at a man who has single handedly generated so much misery in the last eight months. He is no longer worthy of respect IMO- a man whose selfish glory seeking has blinded him to the general good of the club and fans is respected only by dolts, yet I'm still accused of having a 'personal vendetta'.

I'm totally pissed off with hearing scare stories about another HS coming in if Rae went-we don't need him to go, but SOMEBODY must shove him into that big chair between Arthur and Iain Brown NOW. That's what's planned for his 80th I guess, with Crawford and Ian Donald finally taking over, but by that time gentlemen we'll be back in division 3.

It's time to go Jim, and it's past time to go Shoogly. Vive la revolution.
mortonjag 2008-01-28 07:48:14
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 28 2008, 07:37 AM) [snapback]391724[/snapback]
I don't think we'll sign anyone... and I still think we'll stay up, but it'll be a long and miserable road to doing so.

MJ I think Weatherson has lost the ability in that he's in no fit state to play 90 minutes of First Division football, which is why he is so often looking like a passenger.

nacho it's very obvious that Spoonsy has some personal issues to sort before he returns to form, but IMO he's SPL class at his best. The boy doesn't appear to have the wit to get this fixed without some proper input-possibly even a referral for advice/counselling, by the club. Instead he's wearing the armband one week and dropped the next. Man management at its amateurish worst.

I sense that the obvious dispiritment at Scapa is only going to get worse if, as you suggest, we fail to sign anyone, though I agree it's on the cards. For that reason, I would not now be in the slightest surprised to see us relegated. If that's what it's going to take for the truth to finally dawn behind the scenes, it's a sad, sad day indeed.
mortonjag 2008-01-28 07:52:06
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 28 2008, 01:21 AM) [snapback]391704[/snapback]
I was sitting at the end of the section of the Morton support closest to the dugouts and could hear singing but barely make out the words (although I could make out one chorus of 'are you watching Dougie Rae') so I;m certain the manager couldn't.

However I do agree with the sentiments of those singing. I'm finding it hard to get behind the team at the moment partly because some of them look as if they have downed tools and want McInally out and partly because I think the need to sack Jim McInally is now bigger than one match away at Dunfermline.

I wasn't singing either but in my opinion there were probably lots of people who, like me, agreed with what they were singing but for whatever reason never joined in. I certainly don't think the silence indicated that people disagreed with them.

A variation of a worker's right to withhold his labour, and becoming more palpable with every passing game.
mortonjag 2008-01-28 07:53:49
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 28 2008, 02:28 AM) [snapback]391713[/snapback]
Both.

It is becoming increasingly more evident that Rae has no idea how to make progress of any sort at the helm of a football club, and unless something dramatic happens by way of reformation behind the scenes then the future for GMFC is very bleak indeed. We were set back countless years by the Scott regime, and the way Rae is heading we're never going to make up any ground. He either steps down from any active role within the club, or sells up. Ramble on about caring about the club if you will, and I'm sure he does, but that doesn't mean he isn't running it into a brick wall.

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mortonjag 2008-01-28 07:55:17
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jan 28 2008, 06:45 AM) [snapback]391718[/snapback]
Let's hope not eh ! dry.gif

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mortonjag 2008-01-28 07:59:46
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Jan 28 2008, 06:54 AM) [snapback]391720[/snapback]
Stay.
But in all honesty, the Clyde game will be the acid test.

It seems like the fans are pretty well united on this now Paddy-forget the cup tie tonight, I don't think we'll win, but may well see the boys individual pride giving us a cracking game.

Clyde-that's different-if the players have also got to breaking point, they can do more to oust JM than the rest of us put together.
mortonjag 2008-01-28 08:50:16
QUOTE(giz @ Jan 28 2008, 08:15 AM) [snapback]391732[/snapback]
So Im a P**k for voicing my opinion whilst you lot can shout abuse at employees of Morton...some good logic there NOT.My main gripe was that not one song was sung in support of the team by the small number at the back and I can ASSURE YOU ME AND MY MATES DID SING 2 SONGS for the team before the anti McInally songs began.

Giz-I was halfway between the two lots, and aye there was a really decent effort to get behind the boys earlier in the match-that plus the fact that the TTG chants started immediately after the Pars first goal, when we had been playing pretty well. It was clearly pre-rehearsed, and it would have surely been better coming-say-in the last five minutes, but don't forget those guys have just as much right to express their feelings as anybody else.
mortonjag 2008-01-28 08:55:21
QUOTE(dazza @ Jan 28 2008, 08:53 AM) [snapback]391735[/snapback]
As soon as one of the members of the group came in he shouted TTG straight away . We dont need people like this at the games. Douglas Rae knows what position we are in, if Clyde beat us Jim will be off.

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Mr Rae's been divulging his plans to a FAN! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-28 10:00:49
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 28 2008, 09:25 AM) [snapback]391740[/snapback]

PETER WEATHERSON IS NOT A STRIKER


sorry. he's not. the more I watch him the more I realise how uncomfortable he really is playing with his back to goal. Behind the strikers.. yes. Let him collect knock downs or drive forward with the ball so he has space to shoot. With his back to goal it takes him too long to collect the ball and turn and only slows down attacks.

The boy is unfit, and disinterested. JM finally admitted he's a striker, and I can't be bothered arguing this again. Based on current performances you are correct.
mortonjag 2008-01-28 10:08:47 In the Herald the reporter of Saturday's game described Morton as 'abject'. He says JM told him-'We need three or four players to stay in this division and I'm confident we will'! wink.gif There was no preview of tonight's cup tie.

In the Sun there's a wee report on Saturday and it doesn't even mention Morton-all Pars. There's also a big cup-tie preview in which the Ton get far less coverage than big Sanny's performance for E.Fife.

Sad times at Scapa indeed.
mortonjag 2008-01-28 10:20:52
QUOTE(stubaws @ Jan 28 2008, 10:12 AM) [snapback]391754[/snapback]
im pretty sure we're all just bored of u having a go at him, its getting ridiculous now. its ironic how u say he's no longer worthy of respect - pot...kettle...black???

If you're bored I don't really mind-you could always push the huff button!

This is an unofficial forum where we're expected to air our views stubaws. One of the reasons I'VE SEEMED to be constantly on about Rae, is that in the past every time I've criticised him, I've had a flurry of abuse, and I obviously have responded to that.

Now it's becoming clear that the penny is finally dropping-more and more fans are agreeing with points I've been making for three and more seasons, and I find your 'pot, kettle, black' analogy mystifying.

Why should Rae get respect, and why should I deserve disrespect for having the balls to stand up for my beliefs in the face of constant criticism AND abuse, including some nasty p.m.'s? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-28 12:27:52
QUOTE(big B @ Jan 28 2008, 11:30 AM) [snapback]391767[/snapback]
You say McInally got rid of the players how do you know it was'nt Rae that ordered it as we are losing money hand over fist as the crowds are lower than expected.

Precisely.
mortonjag 2008-01-28 12:52:18
QUOTE(stubaws @ Jan 28 2008, 10:32 AM) [snapback]391758[/snapback]
so is it rae's fault that ur getting abuse for abusing him? believe it or not iv actually never been a fan of dougies either, going back to the first time i met him probably about 5 years ago. i do agree with some of your points as well mj, its the personal attacks and (although u say otherwise) constant abuse aimed at him from yourself and possibly a few others that i don't agree with. there are so many threads started by yourself about the same topic, thats whats boring. u dont deserve personal abuse either, but having a go at someone on an unofficial messageboard every day is a hardly "having the balls to stand up to him" is it?

Firstly-in what way have I 'abused' him? Have I ever lied about him? How have I 'personally' attacked a man I've only met once? I have deliberately poked fun at, and caricatured him-something which I believe he thoroughly deserves in return for his pompous disregard of fans, and patronising comments towards players. That was also an attempt to counterbalance the 'Dougie the Saviour' stuff-ad f*cking nauseam-and you've the cheek to call ME boring.

He's a big boy with all the clout at Morton, and has a total monopoly of the local press, the official programme, and the GMFC web site-- where he can and does say exactly what he pleases-often making statements which have subsequently proved to be misleading, if not blatant lies. He has regularly 'had a go' at the fans, and at this forum specifically, because we have DARED to question his authority and judgement,-indeed even for not turning up to games as he demanded!

We have little opportunity in contrast, to make ourselves heard except right here, and so far as I see it stubaws, that's the closest to 'standing up to him' any of us will get, unless you fancy a trip to Golden Casket to 'punch his lights out'.

Now that some others are taking up the cudgels, I won't, hopefully, have to 'bore' you so much in the future, but I make absolutely NO apology for being correct all along-rather I am the one who deserves an apology for a fair amount of genuine abuse and the culprits know who they are! mad.gif





mortonjag 2008-01-28 12:54:13
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jan 28 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]391778[/snapback]
Well said stubaws - I have raised the same point a few times myself - everyone has a right to air trheir views but the constant abuse is completely uncalled for.

As I already asked the gentleman-in what way have I 'abused' him? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-28 12:57:33
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 28 2008, 12:12 PM) [snapback]391780[/snapback]
Another winger, just what we need.

We have no wingers.
mortonjag 2008-01-28 13:08:59 Those questions are always hypothetical, but I'd have Alan Moore tomorrow. With a part time squad, he may be sitting bottom of the table but our goal difference is literally only one better, they have scored two more than us, and they have a game in hand.

That is the product of a man who can get the best from limited resources in contrast to JM who seems to have got the worst from a squad who, on paper, started miles ahead of the Binos.
mortonjag 2008-01-28 13:21:18
QUOTE(Scapaflow @ Jan 28 2008, 01:02 PM) [snapback]391797[/snapback]
Was just reading the Gretna Website and read this which made me laugh. Do they have enough support to have three sections of the ground ??? laugh.gif

Latest Ticket News
Tickets for the Scottish Cup Fourth Round Replay against Morton on Monday 28th January are available on the gate at Palmerston Park.

Home fans are allocated the Main Stand, Portland Drive terrace and a section of the Galloway News (East) Stand - through turnstiles 1 and 2, with admission prices as follows:


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http://www.gretnafootballclub.co.uk/tickets/news/

It is laughable, but what makes me want to cry is that spirits are so low up here. This is a game where on another day you'd safely assume we'd vastly outnumber, and outshout the bumpkins, giving us that definite 12th man advantage. It looks as though we're going to struggle to muster three or four hundred, and I haven't a clue if the TTG lads will lay off tonight and get behind the PLAYERS-well at least until we can see if they're doing their best.

I've decided to go-God knows why-but I imagine it's just what you do when you're a supporter, and I'll certainly be shouting for the Ton.
mortonjag 2008-01-28 13:32:31
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 28 2008, 01:25 PM) [snapback]391815[/snapback]
After all the fuss about Sanny's goal, has this just been swept under the carpet? I know the result isn't going to be altered, but that point stolen from us could be vital at the end of the season.

I wrote a further letter to Drew Herbertson last week Alibi, in response to his of some two months ago in which he said the matter was being investigated. I have specifically asked if he will now reveal the evidence which led the S.F.A. to believe the correct decision had been reached, and also the outcome of the investigation into what occurred between the initial award and subsequent disallowing of the goal.

While on this topic, I'd like to repeat that at the time of my initial letter to Gordon Smith, I wrote to the club, praising Mr Rae's stance on the matter. Needless to say, I received no reply to that.
mortonjag 2008-01-28 14:03:31
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 28 2008, 01:54 PM) [snapback]391823[/snapback]
It's no so much the general gist of the "abuse" that annoys me, with which I totally agree frankly, but the way certain people go about it. We could be playing some tremendous football but having shots of the line, off the post etc, just generally being unlucky, yet if the opposition scored the most ridiculously flukey goal of all time then some people would still start with the abuse and heckling.

As has been said, as dire as Saturday's game, and a good number of others have been, when the team aren't neccessarily playing too badly then I don't see what it achieves to hurl abuse for 90 minutes. Save it for the end of the game, and at least be willing to give the odd clap and cheer when our players do something good instead of just ignoring it and calling them a "wee p***k" or whatever the next mis-hit pass they make even if it is only one in the whole game. Even if you can't be arsed with 90 minutes of singing and so on, and let's be honest, who can considering how boring we are to watch these days, at least give the guys a wee bit of credit on the pitch when they make good passes, tackles or put together a good move. The vast majority of our players are good, hard-working professionals giving their best for the team and being let down badly by their manager, it seems quite obvious that they have become as disillusioned and disheartened as the rest of us and it isn't their fault.

That's how I've been reading it too Chris-it's only in the last two or three weeks that I've felt the players in general, and some in particular have lost heart. Whether you love or detest Douglas Rae or Jim McInally, if you're a true Ton supporter, you surely don't want relegation this year. It's got to the stage where 'one match at a time' is more meaningful than ever. Hopefully everybody WILL get behind the boys tonight, and we might just get something in return. If we see a repeat of the recent debacles, there's no harm in those who feel they must, letting off steam when it's become obvious the game's beyond redemption.
mortonjag 2008-01-28 14:10:46
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 28 2008, 02:08 PM) [snapback]391833[/snapback]
Who's Chris? mellow.gif

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OOPS---You are now Chris-MJ has decreed it! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-28 15:27:05
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 28 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]391855[/snapback]
A sh*t-stirrer, no doubt. No thanks.

I think Greacen's Genitals is a bit posh HH - O.K., I approve of you continuing with alliteration, but if it must be anatomical, why not Greacen's goolies?
mortonjag 2008-01-28 15:35:47
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jan 28 2008, 03:33 PM) [snapback]391873[/snapback]
Mortonjag on the Webcast??? Noooooooooooooooooo! wink.gif laugh.gif

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laugh.gif no-you're quite safe-we're travelling down!
mortonjag 2008-01-28 15:46:21
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 28 2008, 03:39 PM) [snapback]391876[/snapback]
MortonjagsMelons is next smile.gif

Gracious-my goolies were NEVER that big-mandarins would do nicely thanks!
mortonjag 2008-01-28 15:54:12
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jan 28 2008, 03:44 PM) [snapback]391877[/snapback]
As Brian Graham was running on to the park, someone could clearly be heard shouting " you're sh**e Graham ". FFS, the poor boy wisnae even on the park. I'm all for criticism, as the club is more important than any individuals, but at least he put in a bit of effort when he came on.

That sort of personal abuse is utterly pointless-as is abusing the team in general if you WANT them to win. The question here seems to be whether or not the TTG chants (which were clearly audible to us as we sat some twenty five yards away) were justifiable. Those guys were NOT having a go at the players-they were voicing an opinion as paying customers. I thought the timing could have been better, but in no way does it make them any less fervent than those whose passion for the club occasionally smacks of self righteousness.
mortonjag 2008-01-28 17:43:20 No doubt Mr Rae will be speaking to 'Gretna' tonight. It's an open secret that we want him-some even suggest the deal is all but done! Maybe something like this...........

'Well played Brookes old chap-I thought those boys of yours were magnificent tonight-good luck against Queen of the South on Saturday'.


Mileson-wiping a greasy bit of batter off his cowboy boot-'cough, cough, yes, they were magnificent weren't they-I can still get SO excited when we play nearer our real home--so what's your point Donald'?

Rae-looking slightly dumped-'We previously talked briefly about the Jenkins lad'.

Mileson-'Alan-yes he's a grand laddie-did well tonight I thought-didn't you-you could do with a player like that you know'.



Rae-puzzled 'But I thought you............................

..........

Brookes, I hadn't finished.....



BROOKES'....


'Blast, drat, and dammit I could swear he promised us a deal if we let them win tonight' sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-29 06:43:31 Should Jim now get a reprieve? We really must lay off him 'til Saturday evening at the earliest!
mortonjag 2008-01-29 06:49:12
QUOTE(stubaws @ Jan 28 2008, 08:19 PM) [snapback]392127[/snapback]
god you've got such a hard life taking abuse on an internet messageboard. although not a fan of dougie, i have no urge to go and punch his lights out as you say, i'll leave that to you but let me know if you do coz my money would be on dougie if it came to a fight. the irony is that, from reading your posts on this thread and a few others, you are probably a very similar character to dougie, your demand for apologies and credit for saying all along that dougie should go sounds exactly like dougie demanding credit for going for spl players and always releasing funds for transfers!!

oh, and i have never started a debate proclaiming dougie to be some sort of saviour. come to mention it, nobody has recently! on the other hand, quite a large amount of threads started by yourself on dougie (or something else that ends up having a go at dougie and co) have appeared recently, hence the boredom of the topic
in exactly the same way as you've "had the balls to stand up to him" apparently

You have merely repeated your last blab-nothing new!

I did not DEMAND an apology-FFS man you can't even read. Why, anyway, do you have a personal vendetta against this poor old man?
mortonjag 2008-01-29 06:50:18
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 28 2008, 09:25 AM) [snapback]391740[/snapback]

PETER WEATHERSON IS NOT A STRIKER


sorry. he's not. the more I watch him the more I realise how uncomfortable he really is playing with his back to goal. Behind the strikers.. yes. Let him collect knock downs or drive forward with the ball so he has space to shoot. With his back to goal it takes him too long to collect the ball and turn and only slows down attacks.

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mortonjag 2008-01-29 06:57:01 Just one of those things-last night Stu got to everything first-deserves great credit. Barry Smith has instilled a new confidence-he doesn't get a lot of praise but is worth his weight in gold.

Maybe he shouldn't bother training, come to think of it!!
mortonjag 2008-01-29 07:12:56
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 29 2008, 01:44 AM) [snapback]392372[/snapback]
To me that only confirms they both should've been dropped ages ago and that they had become complacent about their place in the team and only decided to respond after they were dropped. Although I'd say that's more true of Peter than Greacen.

I don't think the guys were giving a toss about their places last night. They were well fired up, and after surviving a couple of scares grew in confidence. McGuffie was far more influential than we've ever seen him and linked beautifully with Spoonsy for one of the goals. Young Graham who's come on as a sub and looked lost more than once was well worth his place in the first half-gave the Gretna defence plenty to think about. Kev and Jimbo both made several incisive runs-at one point Kev beat about five men in a row before pushing the ball infield to a mate!

Midge started as a wing back at Cellic-he had a superb game, and Scotty covered every blade of grass. Smith just calmly sat behind the so called 'calamity brothers' but there was no calamity last night and Doctor Deuchar would have been better occupied seeing a few patients.

Davie McGurn looked a wee bit nervy at first, but after that was pretty steady, though Gretna had few real chances in the second half.

To Spoonsy-well what is there to say-the guy hasn't suddenly become fit overnight, but against an S.P.L. defence he proved beyond a shadow of doubt that he will always be a striker! wink.gif

Last but not least, it looks like Kenny Clark's wife is getting a regular shagging from Leafy-another player who covered every blade of grass. sleep.gif

Two legitimate penalties denied in the same cup tie is outrageous!!! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-29 07:21:41 I was late and ended up in the home stand (which was quite a laugh as it was more than half full of Queens fans and the Bumpkins behaved like mice). I didn't spot a TV crew there anywhere.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 07:25:08
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jan 29 2008, 01:10 AM) [snapback]392347[/snapback]
Alot of fans will stick by their guns on their original thoughts, some wont. But lets not take the shine of an excellent, outstanding, fantastic win tonight. wink.gif

Exactly-until 4.45 p.m.on Saturday there's no point in spoiling anyone's pleasure after an outstanding performance on the park.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 07:34:08 I was in the home stand and watched as he came off. JM gave him a big pat on the back and he turned round looking a bit disappointed and sort of half smiled and returned the gesture. He had an outstanding game and was disappointed to be subbed but he was hirpling as he came off.

What can anyone say about Peter? That boy could and should be playing in the S.P.L. I know many fans are raging and have lost patience with him recently, but did he DELIBERATELY choose to have personal issues. Does he, for that matter, even acknowledge that there is anything wrong. If only this could be addressed in a more professional manner all round.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 07:39:52 I was sitting behind Arthur, Crawford etc., last night but there was no sign of Our Father.

Where art he?

Not in heaven-well only after the final whistle I guess.

Somebody suggested he's abroad at the moment-is this true?

Also-- does anyone have a picture of the new director-I have a reason for asking which I'll only be able to explain if I can see his mugshot.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 07:47:41
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 29 2008, 12:44 AM) [snapback]392314[/snapback]
Greacen and Harding ARE good defenders on their day, and by finally adding the experience of Smith alongside them I think we're beginning to see that. We've been crying out for someone like Smith to slot in to the defence for god knows how long, and the benefits to Greacen and Harding are blatantly obvious. Give them a break, for starters get a grip with stupid thread titles like this.

C'mon-the commentator was claiming that the two central defenders in the side with the second worst record of goals against were 'The best in the league' EM!

I think manchesterton was laughing more at the utter ignorance and stupidity of the comment than at the players. I don't think the said 'mouth' could have taken in the Livvi game.

Last night it went well for Stu-he got to the ball first every time and made Deuchar look stupid (which pleased me no end, as he's a big headed tw*t IMO), and with Barry Smith behind them the pair had an excellent game. That's NOT what we've been getting all season, but pray it continues.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 07:53:52
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jan 29 2008, 07:50 AM) [snapback]392408[/snapback]
As above. Unusual to see the lad on from the start and I'm pleased that he got a pretty good review on radio for his contribution. Has he earned a starting place?

I only got in after 20 minutes TT. I've been disappointed with young Graham when he's been coming on as a late sub-always felt he had talent but looked raw and a bit 'lost'.

Last night he was all over the place, winning the ball, holding it up, and laying off decent passes. He also had at least one excellent crack at goal. I was impressed.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 07:56:34 Many happy returns Weegie-BTW I hope you don't get a pencil sharpener as a present-look what happened at Scapa!
mortonjag 2008-01-29 09:07:00
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 29 2008, 08:24 AM) [snapback]392422[/snapback]
Russell's Rectum, Smith's Spine, Graham's Gonads, Finlayson's Foot, Weatherson's Walloper.

For future reference

I have some worries about Peter's Pancreas. Have you noticed Stiffler's sternum. Kevin's coccyx sticks out like Jimbo's jugulars. Harding's hypothalamus takes a fair battering in every game, and of course Russell's Muscles has already been hi-jacked by the club spy (where ARE you?)!



The problem is we've too many 'M's in the side., though I prefer McGuffie's macula to McInally's mole.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 09:10:01
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 29 2008, 08:22 AM) [snapback]392421[/snapback]
A goal from a one/two thirty yards out sounds like someone who'd do well playing off the strikers to me MortonJag smile.gif

You weren't at the game!

Thirty yards my arse! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-29 09:10:43
QUOTE(gorkir @ Jan 29 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]392437[/snapback]
That's how we won tonight, we didn't use dougies tactics

McInally must stay!

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mortonjag 2008-01-29 09:13:19
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 29 2008, 08:32 AM) [snapback]392426[/snapback]
The players will always get full backing from the fans when they look like they're giving 100%, last night was proof of that.

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mortonjag 2008-01-29 09:18:44
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 29 2008, 09:02 AM) [snapback]392445[/snapback]
Jesus, talk about over thinking on a subject.

Can you imagine back in the day; 'Did you see Bobby Thomson's reaction when he was subbed? What do you think he was feeling?' 'Oh, he probably hates us all what with all the abuse he's been getting. Oh and his dip in form is obviously the fault of the fans for getting on his back.'

Weatherson is a professional footballer and as such probably doesn't give a fiddlers fart what the fans think (except of course when he's doing well) and like all professional footballers he would do well to remember who pays his wages.

Weatherson gets his dough for entertaining paying customers DM. If he doesn't give a fiddler's fart what they think, he must be as daft as your post.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 09:24:06 Contracts, 'pre-contracts' and all verbal arrangements made under Scottish Law are binding.

Binding, that is, if either party insists.

If both parties are happy, they can be scrapped by mutual arrangement, with or without compensation either way.

That's my take, but check with a lawyer!
mortonjag 2008-01-29 09:30:20
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 29 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]392438[/snapback]
of course "cult" may be a typo....

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mortonjag 2008-01-29 09:35:54
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 29 2008, 09:29 AM) [snapback]392461[/snapback]
This might not be what Chris wants to hear but wither or not he has signed a pre-contract with St Johnstone I would not allow him to leave Cappielow until the end of the season, he is in my opinion worth more between now and the end of the season than the 10k (and the freed up wages) Morton seem to be willing to accept.
A few people said Chris could have been the difference in the games he was left out of, I believe Chris could be the difference between us playing 1st Division or 2nd division football next season.

His current form is good, but form comes and goes. The same could hopefully be said of Barry Smith, Spoonsy, Ryan McGuffie, Jamie Stevenson, and Jimbo, I believe-but I'd hate Midge to leave. He's another player who has been regularly targetted by fans as a scapegoat when things haven't worked out. In those days of wing backs versus the old full back 'cluggers', Midge might well end up as a classy S.P.L. right back. Shades of Haji there?
mortonjag 2008-01-29 09:41:29
QUOTE(tontastic @ Jan 29 2008, 09:29 AM) [snapback]392459[/snapback]
Missed the kick off after latching onto some diddery old fart in a rusty old wheelbarrow (saab with 2 exhausts) who I thought knew where he/she/it was going. When we arrived at a 5 a side pitch complex in Dumfries I realised that even cantankerous old gits make mistakes, and I resorted to TomTom and the other set of glowing floodlights in town to guide me in.

Completely unacceptable. Get it sorted! Anyone else get lost?

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Funny tontastic-I got lost last night too-some eejit was sitting two yards off my back bumper going into Dumfries and I was so blinded I ended up at a bloody 5-aside pitch! wink.gif


SORRY!!! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-29 09:50:34
QUOTE(monyou @ Jan 29 2008, 09:45 AM) [snapback]392472[/snapback]
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Next time, let the monkey drive.....

It was the bloody monkey's fault- I got to the big Tesco which I know is only a stones throw from the ground, and while I was trying to work out which turn to take he shouted 'There's the floodlights'. Like a moth to a candle I drove straight into that sports complex-which BTW has bloody bright floodlights-very misleading, but the monkey should really know better, especially when he was supposed to be doing some reading for those exams.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 10:13:57
QUOTE(LuTON @ Jan 29 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]392478[/snapback]
Don't think the bbc had much faith in us getting through This was obviously drawn up a while ago
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/s...fix/default.stm

Gretna v Queen of South, R5, 15:00
Hibernian v Rangers/ East Stirling, R5, 15:00
Kilmarnock v Celtic, R5, 15:00
Livingston v Partick, R5, 15:00
Motherwell v Dundee, R5, 15:00
Ross County v St Johnstone, R5, 15:00
St Mirren v Dundee Utd, R5, 15:00


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mortonjag 2008-01-29 10:19:08
QUOTE(giz @ Jan 29 2008, 09:52 AM) [snapback]392477[/snapback]
IMO he was most definitely showing a lack of respect to us fans who travelled last night.He loves the adulation but cant take criticism and I guess that just makes him human BUT he needs to realise hes better off with the fans being behind him.He was also the only Morton player/official who didnt acknowledge the fans at the final whistle.
All in all though he had a great game and hopefully there's more to come?

Give the boy a break Giz-he didn't exactly give the fans a two fingered salute, and this is only your interpretation of what happened. He was hauled in for a radio interview right after the match by the way.

I guess Spoonsy may always be an enigma-his performances for the last wee while have been way below expectation, but the abuse to which he's been subjected on the forum has at times been well out of order, and certainly not demanding of respect.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 10:21:53
QUOTE(gorkir @ Jan 29 2008, 10:06 AM) [snapback]392487[/snapback]
It was siaid on the radio last night if Gretna had won they had sfa permission to change the venue of the tie.
They were given permission to play at Palmerston again.
I thought this was against the sfa rules.
So it looks like one rule for some and another rule for a SPL club

Could also be interpreted as 'Keep those bloody Bumpkins away from Fir Park as often as possible so that decent sides don't have to postpone fixtures'. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-29 10:50:06 Aye, the moany b*****ds are at it again-they can't take a fair beating, and that bloody Struthers will be trying to use his SFA contacts just like he did in the Craig Thomson debacle. Good luck Brechin!
mortonjag 2008-01-29 11:00:29
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 29 2008, 10:32 AM) [snapback]392501[/snapback]
The point I'm making as you know all too well is

a) footballers play for whoever pays them. Very few have an 'emotional bond' with club/fans. If you think they do you're mental.

cool.gif the fans are not responsible for how a player conducts himself on the pitch.

Edited to say; why is there a stupid smiley thing where I have typed b.

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Do you think Morecambe and Wise had an 'emotional bond' with their audiences?

The point I'm making, and YOU very well know it, is that performers naturally get upset if the audience goes against them, and respond to applause etc.

mortonjag 2008-01-29 11:12:00
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jan 29 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]392504[/snapback]
Theres critisism and then there is Abuse - Im sorry but I think he has taken a lot of personal abuse recently . When players are in a rut they need our support more than ever and how did the fans respond recently Abuse and Negativity .

I also hope this spurs him on to play better and get himself fit

I also hope we can all get behind the fans and help lift opurselfs out of the bottom the table

How true Scott-how true, and I wish some eejits who constantly accuse me of ABUSING the Chairman realised this.

You are so correct in Peter's case-he's been called a 'waster', and 'an alcoholic' for example. Anybody with knowledge will explain that those two things are entirely different. Most of the wasters I've known were not alcoholics, and vice versa, but both terms are, IMO, out of order, EVEN IF there may be some truth in either or both.

Peter may well be an 'alcoholic'-it's not exactly an uncommon illness, and an illness it is. Don't we have a club doctor, and trained physios at the club? Surely they would be doing something to get him help if indeed this is the case.

A 'waster'-well that's down to your own definition-if Spoonsy's deliberately not making an effort when he could-sure-he deserves criticism-but 'waster's a pretty emotive term for a guy who can still make a living from professional football.

Truth seems to be that the posters who are the most vicious and vehement in unfair criticism of players often seem to have issues of their own.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 11:15:26
QUOTE(stubaws @ Jan 29 2008, 11:09 AM) [snapback]392515[/snapback]
he wasnt there on saturday either

Two days left 'til the window closes-guess he's probably enjoying a holiday abroad.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 11:23:12
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 29 2008, 11:14 AM) [snapback]392520[/snapback]
LET THE GOOD TIMES ROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bloody hell, they really see us coming, don't they?

The panic buy to end all panic buys.

It goes from bad to worse-what does Rae take us for-not one of his panic 'freebies' is still with us, AND he'll have to be paid a salary.

He's clearly unwilling or unable to splash the cash on what we need-that means we won't progress until something changes.I'm still tingling from last night's victory, but in the longer term it may be the worst thing that could have happened.

'After the magnificent victory over SPL club, Gretna F.C. in the Scottish Cup-it has become obvious to us that the squad we have is more than up to the task of taking us forward'.

Yours Aye

mortonjag 2008-01-29 11:28:38
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jan 29 2008, 11:22 AM) [snapback]392528[/snapback]
I doubt Spoonsy is either to be honest - We dont know the full story of twhy he is seemingly unfit/unintrested . Id like to see Mcinally send him away for a week or 4 to get fit . Surely he could arrange some fitness training at Septics new training ground for him ?

Not the Septic Tank, where all the s***e players get sent to sort them out?
mortonjag 2008-01-29 11:37:20
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 29 2008, 11:29 AM) [snapback]392537[/snapback]
He is in Germany I believe on business, not footballing business though before the stoners start

Hope he's not been sweet talking that famous German Confectioner Helmut Shoen!

Anyway, is he not supposed to be back here signing players, or has he left JM in charge with a blank cheque book, each cheque bearing the following 'Please pay to the bearer the following sum-not to exceed £2000 sterling.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 11:41:21 I'm pretty confident that will happen and the usual armchair fans, and glory hunters will swell the crowd too. We must now be strong bookies favourites despite the recent defeat by Queens, but don't forget Gretna are no great shakes.

Here's hopin'.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 12:04:11
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 29 2008, 11:54 AM) [snapback]392545[/snapback]
So if he makes the signings he gets bollocked by you, if he leaes during the transfer window - making it seem like he doesn't do the signings - he gets bollocked by you.

....your alzhiemers taking over now aye?

IF we make the signings we need and were promised it really doesn't matter who makes them. I was, as so often, only poking fun. That doesn't change in the slightest my overall opinion of DDFR.

Do you think we're about to bring in those players Puggs?
mortonjag 2008-01-29 12:05:33
QUOTE(Muz @ Jan 29 2008, 11:56 AM) [snapback]392546[/snapback]
I'd forgotten how much I hate MortonJag's posts. Had them on ignore but they seem to be back visible. Time to ignore!

No offence- you just say the same stuff on nearly every thread- in fact make that EVERY thread.

Really-you normally have me on ignore but still read every thread-WOW!!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-29 12:27:54
QUOTE(stubaws @ Jan 29 2008, 11:08 AM) [snapback]392514[/snapback]
yawn, the world is just against you isn't it?

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Standard type of response from someone who can't answer the question!

Listen stewed baws-here it is again. I'm getting slightly brassed off with posters who keep beating the big drum about my 'having a personal vendetta' with Mr Rae. I recently spelled out exactly what I think about him, and stated categorically that I have no personal truck with the Chairman.

If you disagree with ANYTHING I say about him, by all means take me up on it, but stop behaving like a child, and I don't mean that in an abusive sense. All you are doing is repeating a false allegation because my posts irritate you. Now that DOES sound personal to me.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 12:34:21
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 29 2008, 12:25 PM) [snapback]392560[/snapback]
Well, f*** 'em then. I want men to play for my team not a bunch of pansies that get upset if they are criticised.

That would be the ideal world DM!

Big boys don't cry though-do they?

That is one of the craziest myths ever propagated, and footballers, perforce, simply represent a cross section of personalities.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 12:36:44
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Jan 29 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]392562[/snapback]
So tell us how often have you seen him play nachO

How often have YOU seen him play?

He's a bloody FREE transfer from our own division. That is NOT the sort of player we were promised-or should I say-believed we were promised.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 12:40:36
QUOTE(Muz @ Jan 29 2008, 12:34 PM) [snapback]392564[/snapback]
Ach gies peace ya fanny.

Peace be with you my son-press your own little huff button if you don't like fanny.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 12:44:45
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Jan 29 2008, 12:41 PM) [snapback]392567[/snapback]
Have not thats why I can't and wouldn't comment on how good or bad he is

Well here's hoping he's really really awfully good, and Hamilton have only released him because he's been frightening the children.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 12:48:56
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 29 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]392559[/snapback]
Agreed, but I don't think he has an injury record anywhere near as bad as McGregor, and injuries that have occurred to Jenkins I believe have been through football-related tackles, as opposed to just breaking down constantly.

I honestly believe Jenkins would benefit Morton greatly. I'd actually play Davie in midfield too, instead of McLaughlin.

I'm not a great fan of Scotty in terms of attacking football, but the power of work he got through last night just isn't in Davie's legs I'm afraid, and I do admire the latter's attitude and application. For me McGregor's one of those guys who flatters to deceive. He does everything pretty well, but at the end of the day does very little well enough.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 15:02:22
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 29 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]392620[/snapback]
That would be the King George Vth you went into - used to play there when we had a football team called Omerta (which stood for Old Men Embracing Recreation, Taking Alcohol). A lot of people make that mistake.

Well it's head out turning left, right at first roundabout ,straight through second roundabout, left at next and you're there-as I learned after I ended up at the same spot second time around!!!
mortonjag 2008-01-29 15:05:41
QUOTE(Tooth & Nail @ Jan 29 2008, 02:56 PM) [snapback]392652[/snapback]
Charlie Richmond.

Who's neither a lawyer nor comes from Pishley!
mortonjag 2008-01-29 15:10:40
QUOTE(stubaws @ Jan 29 2008, 02:01 PM) [snapback]392629[/snapback]
agreed it was a childish post, i regret stooping to your level (the stewed baws bit was particularly good i thought mellow.gif ). as i dont know who you are, have never met you and won't be upset if i never meet you, it cant be a personal thing i have against you. im fed up answering your questions - all i pulled you up about was the [b]visciousness[/b] of your attacks on dougie rae and his personality. the fact that these appear on an almost daily basis leads me to believe that you do have something personal against him. if so then fine, thats your call. if you believe that you do not then again thats your call but i'd recommend you take a step back and read your posts, imagining it was about someone else (who you liked) other than dougie. i, and im guessing most other people on this board, happen to think that you do have a bit of a personal vendetta against him and that your comments on the man are, at times, way out of order

If it wasn't for your atrocious spelling, I could believe you were a Lecturer. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-29 15:12:46
QUOTE(j-robot @ Jan 29 2008, 02:26 PM) [snapback]392639[/snapback]
You're wasting your time Stu, this guy is a walloper who loves the attention. Best to just follow the rest of the board and ignore him.

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mortonjag 2008-01-29 15:22:05 I wouldn't give a flying f*ck if the whole bloody squad was composed of frees and rejects and was near the top of the league. The club openly admitted it needed three or four players with experience, and has repeatedly claimed it was about to bring in ex SPL talent. We have McGuffie-not a leader by nature, and Smith on loan.

This has got little to do with how good or bad the lad proves to be-we seem to know enough to accept it's a gamble on a last minute signing who must clearly be well down the pecking order of choices.

Where is the 100k Mr Rae was willing to spend on Paul McGowan when we clearly NEED it?
mortonjag 2008-01-29 15:45:17 So the players are paid to do a job, and it seems that part of that is to pander to the whims of the fans. Scoring two cracking goals is no less than we should expect-a mere bagatelle in fact, but upsetting those gentle souls on the terracing is worthy of public execution.

This is only a suggestion, but could we not ask the club to write a code of pitch behaviour into each players contract. Then for example, instances of gross professional misconduct such as was witnessed from Weatherson last night could be appropriately punished by deduction of wages or worse.

Would the SFA allow the club to make wee badges for each player to pin on his chest (not hiding the millions logo of course) displaying, 'I am ..... and I love you all'?

Let's face it, it's outrageous to travel all the way home from Dumfries crying your eyes out because you feel snubbed by somebody you've been praising to the high heavens for months.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 15:50:35
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 29 2008, 03:46 PM) [snapback]392682[/snapback]
Peter can stick his fingers up at me, spit in my pie and kill my unborn children when he scores a goal, as long as he scores a goal.

Congratulations-have you told the 'Sun' yet?
mortonjag 2008-01-29 15:57:47
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jan 29 2008, 03:34 PM) [snapback]392674[/snapback]
It's very easy to slate the signing of Brian Wake, but during this month we've shipped out the duds and we've brought in players with experience at this level, something the squad was badly lacking. For that both Jim and rae should be praised, not slated.

I for one will refrain from judgement till I've seen him a Morton shirt a few times.

edit to add

I do still believe the squad is 1 or 2 short. I would like to see a central midfielder and a left back brought in before midnight on Thursday, but would be surprised to see it.

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You sure have a way with words-great to know this new guy's going to be FAR better than that useless c*nt Templesomething-FFS I've forgotten his name already. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-29 16:02:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 29 2008, 03:54 PM) [snapback]392688[/snapback]
yup im front page exclusive tomorrow, should be a riveting read smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-01-29 16:30:33
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jan 29 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]392721[/snapback]
Well maybe dud was a bit strong. Should I have maybe used 'deadwood'? The point is valid though, the players we have got rid of this month were not going to be playing, so it's right to free up places in the squad.

Will have been ultimately unsuccessful unless we bring in another 2 players though.

I just wish we'd sign a bit more experience before it's too late. Last night showed what the current squad can do when they're motivated, but by God, when the opposite applies, they sometimes collapse like a pack of cards.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 17:25:57
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 29 2008, 04:41 PM) [snapback]392733[/snapback]
MortonJag, I think you've taken sarcasm to another level there. sad.gif

I feel I'm having a healthy debate with the guys here with my tuppenceworth and a few wee jokes. You're just takin the p1ss outta them!

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I'd willingly do that with a ragged catheter to a very small few Donga-but really, I'm only joining in the fun-let's face it, it's hardly the end of the world if Spoonsy's a bit huffy after all the name calling!
mortonjag 2008-01-29 17:36:24
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 29 2008, 04:42 PM) [snapback]392735[/snapback]
Maybe they do, but to ridicule the commentators for prasing our players on the evidence of what they have seen just is by extension slagging the players imo. Credit where it's due to Greacen and Harding, both were outstanding last night, at least acknowledge that if your going to slag people who praise them.
Also, just because the team has a poor record doesn't neccessarily mean that both central defenders can't individually be as good as anyone else in the league. Not saying they are or aren't mind, but we lose goals as a team, not just because of the guys at the back.

Don't be obtuse-stating that any defensive pairing is 'probably the best in the league' on the basis of one showing is preposterous-and that is all I was ridiculing. Let's face it those guys do that sort of thing constantly-some couldn't even get Weatherson's name right last night.

I HAVE praised them in another thread today BTW. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-29 17:40:49
QUOTE(Cosmos @ Jan 29 2008, 01:18 AM) [snapback]392355[/snapback]
Jim McInally has tried to play football on the deck since he took over at Morton. His weakness has been signing players from lower leagues who he thinks are 1st division standard
He now realises what he has to do to keep the team in the division
I've been disgusted at the abuse directed towards him
Morton will finish in 5/6 place in division 1
All fans that expect more than that should go and support the Old Firm
*careful, or I'll close down the Internet* was involved not too long ago

How dare you come on here and criticise our manager in your first post.

Frankly I find that-erm...




Disgusting---aye that'll be the word.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 17:55:09
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 29 2008, 05:51 PM) [snapback]392785[/snapback]
Though I can see Russell back in team for Sat? Depends if he starts Wake

Hey you-lay off!!!


Leafy was denied a perfectly good penalty last night AND set up Midge's goal. Not bad for 45 minutes against an SPL side.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 19:31:34
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jan 29 2008, 07:04 PM) [snapback]392838[/snapback]
Yep

Nope-the goalie clipped his ankle-he tried to stay up but had been impeded and was already off balance-sure-he finally let himself go down, but it was NOT a dive. I saw it from the home side, and another poster I've spoken to saw it from the away side. The question is quite simple-did the goalie impede him or not?

Very poor decision by Clark IMO.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 19:44:04
QUOTE(Deego @ Jan 29 2008, 07:41 PM) [snapback]392872[/snapback]
'Keeper never touched him. Russell has admitted he dives a lot.

Aye, and is also good at the breast stroke. Show me the video evidence Deego!
mortonjag 2008-01-29 19:46:49 Anybody know the result of the SFA emergency meeting today. Are Brechin still through?
mortonjag 2008-01-29 19:51:13 The squad's been updated to include our new defender!

David McGurn
David McGurn
Goalkeeper
View David's Profile

Lee Robinson
Lee Robinson
Goalkeeper
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Alan Gilbride
Alan Gilbride
Centre Back
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Alex Walker
Alex Walker
Midfield
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Barry Smith
Barry Smith
Defender
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Brian Graham
Brian Graham
Forward
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Chris Millar
Chris Millar
Midfield
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Craig Black
Craig Black
Defender
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Darren McGeough
Darren McGeough
Midfield
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David McGregor
David McGregor
Defender
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Dean Keenan
Dean Keenan
Defender
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Iain Russell
Iain Russell
Forward
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Jamie Stevenson
Jamie Stevenson
Midfield
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Jim McAlister
Jim McAlister
Midfield
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Kevin Finlayson
Kevin Finlayson
Midfield
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Kieran McAnespie
Kieran McAnespie
Midfield
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Lee Mitchell
Lee Mitchell
Midfield
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Liam Kerrigan
Liam Kerrigan
Midfield
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Peter Weatherson
Peter Weatherson
Defender
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Ryan Harding
Ryan Harding
Defender
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Ryan McGuffie
Ryan McGuffie
Midfield
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Scott McKellar
Scott McKellar
Centre Midfield
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Scott McLaughlin
Scott McLaughlin
Centre Midfield
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Stewart Greacen
Stewart Greacen
Centre Half
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Jim McInally
Jim McInally
Manager
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Martin Clark
Martin Clark
Assistant Manager
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Andrew Bryan
Andrew Bryan
Kit Manager
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mortonjag 2008-01-29 19:53:22
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jan 29 2008, 07:46 PM) [snapback]392879[/snapback]
that's the medical profession for you rolleyes.gif

Never a truer word spoken trumpet! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-29 20:01:49
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jan 29 2008, 07:58 PM) [snapback]392895[/snapback]
desperate stuff

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What are you blabbering about-it's on GMFC-the new updated profiles-nae Sanny etc!!!
mortonjag 2008-01-29 20:09:21
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 29 2008, 08:01 PM) [snapback]392903[/snapback]
that was a lot of scrolling for absolutely nothing sad.gif
if anyone else had started a thread called " great news on gmfc " id have been excited, but i saw it was MJ which saved me from being annoyed right now tongue.gif

Ok PT-but WHY is Spoonsy listed as a defender on the latest update, when JM's describing him as 'the best finisher at the club', and 'a striker'?

Mortonjag's always fair game for a slagging but somebody at the club with the responsibility for updating those profiles still thinks he's a defender,and I just felt you'd all like to know that! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-29 20:11:59
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 29 2008, 08:04 PM) [snapback]392908[/snapback]
Let's all try and persuade Chris to stay, we can even promise to spell his name correctly. biggrin.gif Seriously, I agree, Millar has been excellent of late and on present form, will be a big miss.

Like the chief executive?
mortonjag 2008-01-30 07:49:43
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 29 2008, 09:27 PM) [snapback]393005[/snapback]
laugh.gif i had him on ignore for about a week when i first joined but everyone kept quoting him so was pointless, then as time went on i started to agree with the things he'd been saying for months and then he was away for a while which brought out my sentimental side tongue.gif

now i love him laugh.gif

The cheque is in the post my boy!


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mortonjag 2008-01-30 07:52:23
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 29 2008, 08:16 PM) [snapback]392919[/snapback]
mortonjag are you EVER off this f***ing thing? you know as well as everyone else that this was a pish thing to start a thread with. different if u came up with something funny now and again but it seems you're talents might be better used at the sunday post

Hey you-I was off for two months building my mummy's new kitchen-have you got a kitchen needing re-done-my fees will be very reasonable and a free medical check up is thrown in! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 08:02:39
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 30 2008, 01:33 AM) [snapback]393097[/snapback]
I thought Russell dived.

As I said earlier I've discussed this in a p.m.with another poster. We saw the incident from opposite sides of the stadium,which gives us the advantage over a single view, and we both thought there was contact from the goalie which unbalanced him as he was sprinting through for the ball.

He seemed to go off balance and momentarily try to keep on his feet before going down in a heap-I agree he ultimately went to ground, but surely the crucial issue is whether or not the goalie impeded him in the first place-if so-PENALTY.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 08:08:57
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jan 30 2008, 03:55 AM) [snapback]393108[/snapback]
Agreed
It was the chairman who said that bout Chris not JM

Are you implying then, that the Chairman is a proven liar?
mortonjag 2008-01-30 08:13:43 It's Old English as in

Oh come all ye faithful.

Probably has survived as a Northern English dialect form 'til footy became popular and has gone the rounds since.


Only a theory mind.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 08:50:14
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 30 2008, 03:50 AM) [snapback]393107[/snapback]
Did I f***. He's also close to the reason we never went up the years Airdrie, Brechin and Gretna did, so like I said, f*** him. A half decent season at full back in a team that spent every game attacking for the majority of the time ain't. He remained and remains as much a chancer as he did the years before and the Cappielow exits ain't moved... At least if McInally f***s off he'll try and take his clown prince out of the same exit. I'd far rather a team that gives 100% every week than one that gives 10% once every six months, if we're lucky.

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Harsh words but in fairness it is the manager's job to sort out issues with the playing staff.

This Weatherson debate will probably rumble on until Peter either gets himself sorted out (and I wouldn't be surprised if he needs PROPER professional help) or just goes from bad to worse.

This is purely an opinion, but it's possible that he's in denial of having any real problem, and as is usually the case in those situations, is VERY defensive when criticised. That would explain why he's upset so many of our more fragile fans.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 08:54:33
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 30 2008, 08:02 AM) [snapback]393135[/snapback]
Quick everyone - TO MFI!!!! smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-01-30 09:01:32 Nobody knows what's going on in the Chairman's mind. If we beat Queens, and lose to Clyde, he may still feel it's worthwhile hanging on to JM in the hope of a money spinning cup run, and if we win both I reckon JM's on a definite reprieve

Lose both, and if he doesn't go we will finally have proof positive that Rae has indeed lost his marbles.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 09:04:51
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jan 30 2008, 07:50 AM) [snapback]393133[/snapback]
There's guys on here who have never liked Jim and our recent league form is all the ammo they need.

They will no doubt be gutted as a defeat on Monday would have pretty much meant it was win or bust for Jim v Clyde. Now I'd imagine he will have till the end of the season, especially with the transfer window being closed tomorrow.

I don't see Dougie spending much money to replace Jim. He's already shown he will not act with haste in this decision, keeping McPherson on (as a cheap option), not sacking Cowboy till 10 games into the next season etc.

I'm still of the opinion that the players are more to do with this than the manager. We can come back from 2 goals down v an SPL side, then hump them 3-0, but as soon as we go a goal down in the league it's game over!

Hopefully Monday has given us a bit of belief. I know Greetna aint up to much, but they are still comparable to what we are facing each week in the league and the players have shown they have enough to get results... just need to fcking do it in a league game!



Don't be a daftie-every true Ton fan was surely delighted with Monday's performance.

Are you suggesting, for example, that the players WANTED to blow the away game at Peterhead which lost us promotion?

I agree that they often look totally fazed when things go against them, but JM must ultimately carry the can for failing to sign the relatively small number of experienced players who could have consistently brought out the potential in the squad.

I'm assuming that it's not the case that he's wanted this all along and been baulked by the Chairman.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 09:12:24
QUOTE(ianton @ Jan 30 2008, 08:38 AM) [snapback]393146[/snapback]
he just tells untruths!!!.

Deliberate ones?
mortonjag 2008-01-30 09:15:25
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 30 2008, 03:56 AM) [snapback]393109[/snapback]
A fair assesment, imo. Graham seems one of these guys that could turn into a good player, but is far too rough to realise his potential. Hopefully, we can aquire a few players even on short-term deals that will allow Brian to go and gain his experience at a lower placed team, as I don;t think sub appearences for us will help his progress too much. He always seems to give his all, and for that alone I wish him all the best for us.

Every time I see Graham he reminds me of the young Joe Jordan when he played for us.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 09:19:39
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Jan 29 2008, 07:49 PM) [snapback]392885[/snapback]
Kenny Clark looking like he is going to puke at the sight of Greacen's bloodied head!

Caption


'Have those f*ckin' Paisley b*stards not discovered Tampax'? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 09:25:54
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 30 2008, 08:37 AM) [snapback]393144[/snapback]
There's that poetic hare and hounds comment again, seems to be a favourite of yours. I'm honestly not familiar with it, can you explain it please?

Just means folk who have no real opinions of their own and go with the flow.


Like most of the 80% who had full confidence in JM and have now shifted to the dark side. It's the same with opinions about the Chairman Donga.

Manchesterton is spot on. It's easy to pick out the guys who really think for themselves.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 09:39:43
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 30 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]393166[/snapback]
Wow, we have our very own arbiter of human behaviour on this messageboard!

I think people are perfectly entitled to change their mind about McInally after recent results. People are allowed to change their mind about anything.

The 2 results versus Livi and Queens were unacceptable to me and I'd have had no problem with McInally jumping or being pushed then, but I'm still behind the guy while he's here.

Not sure if thatputs me in the group that ManchesterTon refers to, but I feel I clash with people a lot on here due to my differing views on things.

I did not say people shouldn't change their minds. I didn't put the point very well Donga.

Do you remember the 'Taxi' thread. Until the away game at Stirling which we blew, criticising JM was not on, and those who did got dogs' abuse. Suddenly there was a switch of opinion-many posters totally turned coat overnight, only to resume their initial position when we finally scraped promotion.

It's one thing changing your mind and being able to explain the decision. It's another letting your heart rule your head, or worse still, having to go with the flow 'cos you're too thick to form an opinion of your own.

mortonjag 2008-01-30 09:42:03
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 30 2008, 09:39 AM) [snapback]393169[/snapback]
That IS sad! smile.gif

Here's what you missed:

60% - MortonJag, MortonJag, more MortonJag
20% - McInally must go, McInally must stay
10% - The Albert guys all talking to each other
5% - Great performance v Gretna
5% - DongaTon being an annoying smartarse

Just take the money and be happy mate. smile.gif

Pop up here oh hairy one , and the monkey will certainly make your arse smart!
mortonjag 2008-01-30 09:43:12 January is almost over.

Praise be to all Gods.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 10:02:42
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jan 30 2008, 09:51 AM) [snapback]393180[/snapback]
Far too many people are eating into this s*** just because we beat gretna in the Cup, 1 game and lots of folk think things are ok, i am still in the same frame of mind before the cup tie win. And there is a lot more shenanigans to contend with than McInally at Cappielow.

I came up the road from Gretna feeling on top of the world-it seemed ages since we'd won so convincingly-great goals, and against an S.P.L. side too.


Now I've climbed off cloud nine, and it's back where we were. Gretna, at the moment, are no better than the top three in division one-indeed they may not be as good. Queens mugged us not so long ago and MUST think they can do it again.

Nothing's really changed, except that the players may have got their confidence back, but look what happened last time when we convincingly beat Killie-a far better side than Gretna, then went back to the old shilly shallying ways.

I think JM has proved that he's not a particularly astute man when it comes to football management, and one cup tie doesn't change that.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 10:06:41
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 30 2008, 10:02 AM) [snapback]393186[/snapback]
Paris was last weekend, smile.gif

i just work 3 on,3 off that's all. No fancy breaks this week. smile.gif

with 'Dopey' standing looking puzzled until he tried Seven Up.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 10:12:10
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jan 30 2008, 10:04 AM) [snapback]393188[/snapback]
Aye, but the weather is still lurking in Inverclyde. First thing this morning my car was frozen, get to Cappielow and its pissing down, get to Town centre sun comes out only to start pissing down again. The weird and wonderful weather of Inverclyde smile.gif

The sun's away now and it's chuckin' it down. My mood goes up and down like a yo-yo on days like this. Anybody else the same or does the weather not affect you?
mortonjag 2008-01-30 10:56:41 Who's the guy to the left of Crawford Rae in pictures 1 and 4?
mortonjag 2008-01-30 11:00:08
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jan 30 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]393205[/snapback]
Was just reading that there, hopefully not until after the game mellow.gif

Can the covers not cope with the light snowfalls we tend to get those days especially at sea level?
mortonjag 2008-01-30 11:34:31
QUOTE(dj-ton @ Jan 30 2008, 11:15 AM) [snapback]393218[/snapback]
no idea mortonjag... ..

but the guy at the top of the picture (with the big scarf on) is the big defender that plays for QOS.
edit to correct spelling

I was sitting behind them in the second half-just curious to know if he could be Mr Donald, though he looks too young.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 11:36:36
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 30 2008, 09:39 AM) [snapback]393169[/snapback]
That IS sad! smile.gif

Here's what you missed:

60% - MortonJag, MortonJag, more MortonJag
20% - McInally must go, McInally must stay
10% - The Albert guys all talking to each other
5% - Great performance v Gretna
5% - DongaTon being an annoying smartarse

Just take the money and be happy mate. smile.gif

today's Top 20 Posters
Member Joined Total Member Posts Posts Today % of today's posts
DongaTon 15-July 05 8,074 60 8.86%
mortonjag 28-July 05 13,489 54 7.98%
port-ton 18-September 06 1,002 33 4.87%
ThornTON 13-July 05 10,740 30 4.43%
GibbyTON 22-April 05 8,524 29 4.28%
WillowMan 18-July 05 7,167 27 3.99%
RedSoxBlueHoops 15-July 05 963 17 2.51%
GreacensGenitals 27-June 07 3,279 17 2.51%
forza ton 17-July 05 3,231 15 2.22%
puggsy_ton 25-April 05 10,736 14 2.07%
Marc 19-August 07 281 14 2.07%
TrumpingTon 10-August 06 962 12 1.77%
EanieMeany 7-August 05 600 11 1.62%
WeegieTon 11-February 06 4,374 10 1.48%
JonaTon 23-April 05 2,748 10 1.48%
midTONs 23-April 05 3,052 9 1.33%
Rasta Ton 22-July 05 1,351 9 1.33%
shaddypeekey 26-July 05 309 8 1.18%
Deego 27-May 05 6,885 8 1.18%
tontastic 16-July 05 879 8 1.18%


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mortonjag 2008-01-30 11:39:57
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 30 2008, 11:21 AM) [snapback]393220[/snapback]
I think the local rag may be a little biased towards the St Johnstone point of view just as the Telegraph does for Morton.

Even if the events did happen in the sequence described, I have no problem in the club making it difficult for Miller to leave at this point as

1) He is worth more than £10k to us to stay if only until the end of the season - he could be one of the players who makes the difference between staying up and relegation
2) At present we don't have a replacement signed and there is a risk we won't for whatever reason
3) There is always an outside chance he could be persuaded to stay anyway between now and the end of the season or if not, we would have the summer window to secure a replacement.

I think the club are perfectly entitled to try to retain him, albeit, I think we should not have been in this position to start with.

“As I have explained to the player the £5000 difference between what they are offering and we are looking for would allow us to bring someone else in.’


That's the bit that worries me.

Penny wise pound foolish?
mortonjag 2008-01-30 11:41:21
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jan 30 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]393223[/snapback]
and someone usualy argues with mortonjag

'Inevitably', you mean! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 11:43:31
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 30 2008, 11:05 AM) [snapback]393216[/snapback]
I'd agree with you there, but report I read said something about quite a bit of snow even at low-level.

Oh well-if it comes to it the weans will enjoy it. We hardly get any snow nowadays-FFS my kids are only in late twenties/early thirties, and we took them sledging every year.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 11:46:40
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jan 30 2008, 11:42 AM) [snapback]393226[/snapback]
yes but im a student in james watt college and left greenock high school, we havent learned that word yet tongue.gif lol

Argue please!
mortonjag 2008-01-30 11:47:28
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 30 2008, 11:44 AM) [snapback]393228[/snapback]
Heh, that's just for today. I've been up longer than you. smile.gif

What's the longest you've been up then?
mortonjag 2008-01-30 11:48:45
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jan 30 2008, 11:45 AM) [snapback]393232[/snapback]
f*** the weather....tomorrow is payday and i get my annual bonus to boot

biggrin.gif tomorrow will be a glorious day in my eyes regardless of the weather

Radix malorum est cupiditas!
mortonjag 2008-01-30 11:52:52
36 HOURS LEFT
mortonjag 2008-01-30 11:57:41
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 30 2008, 11:53 AM) [snapback]393240[/snapback]
Indeed. smile.gif

Soon to be known as Wake's Willy?
mortonjag 2008-01-30 12:29:14
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 30 2008, 12:00 PM) [snapback]393243[/snapback]
Poor substitute, considering I was going to go for SannysSack. FFS JM!!! mad.gif

You missed McMenamin's meninges too!
mortonjag 2008-01-30 12:33:15
QUOTE(BorderReiver @ Jan 30 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]393244[/snapback]
Interesting poll results so far. Way over half the votes for Clyde loss/lose Jim.

If this board is generally representative of the Morton fanbase, and Jim loses to Clyde, he's going to get a real barracking from the terraces.

Beleive it or not, the Clyde game will be my girlfriend's first ever football match (her Dad was a St Johnstone fan and never took her, he was probably ashamed wink.gif).

I just hope I don't have to end up explaining to her that a lynch mob for the manager isn't a usual occurance . . .

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I wouldn't worry too much BR-if history is anything to go on we'll win the Clyde game and Macca the Moggie will still have three or four of his nine lives left.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 12:35:30
QUOTE(CJTon @ Jan 30 2008, 12:29 PM) [snapback]393253[/snapback]
Crawford's son!

I thought they looked alike-he's not studying business management by any chance? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 12:45:12 'Well folks a minute left and I guess we've heard the last of this seasons big signings, but...wait there's hot news coming in from Cappielow....what's that... oh a bit of a red herring I'm afraid folks-seems Morton have failed in a last minute bid for the entire Hamilton squad in a direct swop for their playing staff.

Apparently Douglas Rae felt that his boys deserved a chance to be taken forward, and claimed it was 'a more than generous offer'.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 12:47:35
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jan 30 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]393248[/snapback]
blink.gif huh.gif me scuse?
no worries....wikipedia has worked its magic
"the love of money is the root of all evil"
if thats the case....call me ted bundy

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Whit's yer number mate-ah need a sub!
mortonjag 2008-01-30 13:03:36
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jan 30 2008, 12:58 PM) [snapback]393260[/snapback]
To be fair, the boy did set up the equalising goal, so his influence on the game was a big one. It would have been of no consolation to Hamilton if Brechin had been fined.

Someone somewhere has f***ed up royally at Brechin unsure.gif

True, but the SFA yet again show how detached they are from reality. Replay-aye I suppose but £10,000 to a club like Brechin is like a couple of million to the OF.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 13:06:16
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Jan 30 2008, 12:59 PM) [snapback]393261[/snapback]
So Chris is 100% truthful in all this? it's great when a player who was criticised constantly on here and and at games is all of a sudden a fans favorite. Chris pointed out last night that he felt at the start of the season it was time to move on i think that tells you all he wanted to move no matter what

Is there something you know and are not telling-you appear to imply that Millar is telling 'porkies'.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 13:07:21
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jan 30 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]393268[/snapback]
Should be told to play it at Peterheid... mad.gif

in the snow! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 13:08:24
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Jan 30 2008, 01:02 PM) [snapback]393263[/snapback]
Does if your a pubecent young lad with memeories of the lass from the farm that you accidentally wondered upon...never to see again..... ohmy.gif

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Naughty boy!
mortonjag 2008-01-30 13:11:17
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Jan 30 2008, 01:02 PM) [snapback]393264[/snapback]
What a s*** rule anyway.

Although Hamilton have someone on the commitee anyway so it was expected to fall in their favour.

Scott Struthers the Club secretary is, I believe, on the Referees Committee-remember the guy who was behind the famous disappearing video of Sanny's goal?

I'm still following that up at the S.F.A. by the way. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 13:13:27 Vasectomy for the Ginger one?
mortonjag 2008-01-30 13:16:30 Vasectomy looming for the big ginger one?
mortonjag 2008-01-30 13:20:17
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 30 2008, 01:13 PM) [snapback]393277[/snapback]
This guy might just be what we need - a big bruiser who bullies the opposition centre half. I'm looking forwartd to seeing him up against Jim Thomson on Saturday - that should be quite a battle.

He's big and strong, he scores goals occasionally, he's not a midget. I'd say this might prove to be an excellent signing, along the lines of the way our 63-64 squad was made up of rejects from other clubs.

Given that this, and NOT last season is the time when we're going to have to 'grind out' results, he may give us the physical presence we lack, and more space for leafy to play off.

I just hope we wish we had signed the experience we need in the boilerhouse.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 13:46:58
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jan 30 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]393290[/snapback]
I think he could be exactly what we need .

He looks the tipe of hard tackling rough CF you love to hate

Too often its us playing against this type of player and getting bullied

Good Luck Big Man

oh and if you read this MortonJag called you a P00F !

Just shows you can't divulge the names of the members of your wee association to any old Tom, Dick, and Harry!
mortonjag 2008-01-30 13:48:30
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jan 30 2008, 01:45 PM) [snapback]393291[/snapback]
Good point well made rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-01-30 14:13:00
QUOTE(Scapaflow @ Jan 30 2008, 02:06 PM) [snapback]393300[/snapback]
Keep it up mortonjag you will hit 20,000 post soon
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Hmm-I might have popped my clogs first-mind you I'm probably good for another couple of months! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 14:42:15
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 30 2008, 02:33 PM) [snapback]393306[/snapback]
We won the game so no advantage to Gretna, but was there not a suspicion that they had fielded an ineligible player as well?

We could keep it quiet if they give us Jenkins on a 'free'!
mortonjag 2008-01-30 14:57:35
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 30 2008, 02:49 PM) [snapback]393314[/snapback]
Christ...I've got the same patter as MortonJag!!!!!! sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

Great minds think alike Donga


cue -Puggs....................
mortonjag 2008-01-30 15:01:11
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 30 2008, 02:57 PM) [snapback]393316[/snapback]
here's Spoonsy's own comments courtesy of the Telegraph

http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/article...=2&id=19196

“We definitely need bodies in. The gaffer will have things in the pipeline. We need players to come in and help us along.â€


What we've ALL been saying Spoonsy, but none so deaf etc.!
mortonjag 2008-01-30 15:22:39 Nothing on GMFC.net


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mortonjag 2008-01-30 15:26:34
QUOTE(northseaton @ Jan 30 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]393334[/snapback]
AS Bryan says I`m more of an avid reader of the site than poster although you`ll find this is no wind up. Anyway the fishul site will be updated on Monday tongue.gif

Smith as sweeper, and Jenkins in the boilerhouse--relegation looks less likely already-now if we'd just got McMenamin, and, and!!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 15:32:56
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 30 2008, 03:28 PM) [snapback]393341[/snapback]
Take your pick

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDJK 12 has lovely grain-I think I'd choose that one if I was any good at snooker, but every time I've tried my balls just ended up all over the place.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 15:35:54
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 30 2008, 03:30 PM) [snapback]393342[/snapback]
My apologies if already posted, but noted this on the Tele website, book launching at the Spinnaker Hotel:

http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/article...=1&id=19133

A must for all Ton fans, and perhaps an eye opener for the youngsters who never saw him play.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 17:24:01
QUOTE(C B @ Jan 30 2008, 05:10 PM) [snapback]393375[/snapback]
I'm sure the monkey will be nattering on looooong after you've gone rolleyes.gif

Let's hope so-he gets my Ton scarf and the singed picture of Mr Rae in the will. wink.gif wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 18:44:15
QUOTE(C B @ Jan 30 2008, 06:07 PM) [snapback]393390[/snapback]
Singed ? hahahaha I DON'T think thats a typo. Stop letting the monkey play with matches laugh.gif

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So glad you spotted that before some smart arse spoilt it, and my little garcon keeps telling son pere he's 'Le Singe de Scapa' !!
mortonjag 2008-01-30 18:49:03
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jan 30 2008, 06:15 PM) [snapback]393392[/snapback]
I think it is quite correct that Hamilton appealed, and if it is true about the Gretna also fielding an illegible player, and we'd lost - then I hope we'd have done the same thing.

However - a fine and a replay! Nonsence.

Hamilton should get through to the next round - which makes the punishment fit the crime.
The way it's turned out Brechin could still get through, play Aberdeen and make much more than �10,000 whereas Hamilton get nothing.

Fine's are nonsence these days anyways. What if Rangers had done it? £10,000 would have been covered by a couple of food stalls at their next home match, where as Brechin will be lucky to turn over £10,000 for a home game!

No doubt we'll sign whatever striker they have at the moment for a stupid fee and bail them out. Charlie King to sign tomorrow... £14,599.99 fee.

....presumably with mud all over the sponsors logo Piecrust! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 18:51:19
QUOTE(kilbrideton @ Jan 30 2008, 06:48 PM) [snapback]393403[/snapback]
What were the two old guys who sat on the balcony in the muppets called? Is it them on this SFA commitee?

Arthur and Douglas.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 18:55:36
QUOTE(C B @ Jan 30 2008, 06:04 PM) [snapback]393389[/snapback]
NOW I'm worried !!!!!!!!!!! blink.gif unsure.gif

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mortonjag 2008-01-30 19:11:53
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jan 30 2008, 06:38 PM) [snapback]393398[/snapback]
I'd just like to quote myself from an earlier post ( 14th January ) when there were calls for him to be shown the door
Have to say it, told you so tongue.gif

We really do have some of the most fickle fans in football in my opinion and after reading Peter's comments in the Tele tonight I am very surprised he didn't wave the 2 fingers at the crowd. Some of the stuff written on here can be down right nasty at times.

I agree-in fact you could almost persuade yourself that some folk have a personal vendetta against Peter!!! huh.gif

O.K. then-a couple of questions for those who seem to have it in for him.

Do you think Spoonsy's first and foremost a total 'waster'?

Do you think he's deliberately been shirking?

Would you still be dishing out the same stuff if we were top of Division 1 right now?

Finally-and this is specifically to Eany Meany-in view of your comments about pub teams, free drinks, and crates of Newcastle Brown, do you believe Peter is a problem drinker?

mortonjag 2008-01-30 19:27:21 This has to be the biggest and longest running joke in Scottish football, and ultimately one man is to blame-the idiot Mileson.

Whoever dreamed he could wreak such havoc just as his bumpkin 'has beens' are slipping back down the leagues and into the oblivion from which he spirited them on that crazy whim.

Who let it happen mind you?

The SFA.

Gordon Smith's on £160,000 per. annum-ten times the salary of many posters, and I had high hopes that he'd make rapid improvements to justify his 'funny money', but it's become evident that it's a case of 'plus ca change' within those hallowed Hampden walls.

When will the powers that be in Scottish football, and I include Club Directors and Chairmen ever waken up to the fact that it's the fans who are keeping them in their cosy little pads?

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mortonjag 2008-01-30 19:31:26
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Jan 30 2008, 07:02 PM) [snapback]393432[/snapback]
People posting the ignore thing f***ing irritates me.

Ignore them and don't let everyone else hear about it, okay ?

If you're talking about Real Hoops, go easy on the poor chap or he'll have you on 'ignore' as well! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 19:36:39
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jan 30 2008, 07:22 PM) [snapback]393455[/snapback]
i've never been a great fan of sponsy.

i dont tend to say much bad about him unless he does play pitiful even then its not nasty. he can be a total waster at times. i have no idea what shirking means.
and if we 'WERE' top of SD1 would YOU or any of us be calling for mcinally to be shown the door or be nasty about players?

thats a blatant no, cause if we were top then they would be playing well.

I said at the beginning of, and throughout last season that we'd win in spite of JM. My opinion of him has not changed, but I tend to avoid making 'nasty' comments about individual players.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 19:44:15
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 30 2008, 07:30 PM) [snapback]393462[/snapback]
eh hows it there fault unsure.gif

They could have foreseen a problem with groundsharing Bryan. It was ultimately Gretna's responsibility to have a stadium fit for the S.P.L., and that was not done. Motherwell gleefully accepted Mileson's offer of, I believe £250,000 while the S.F.A. sat back and nodded benignly.

CLOWNS the lot of them.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 19:50:04
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 30 2008, 07:40 PM) [snapback]393475[/snapback]
Without reading the posts made by others or looking at the poll . Win , lose or draw JM will still be our manager come May nevermind the beginning of January .

If Dougie has kept him through the transfer window and allowed to sign players it would appear that Dougies faith is undented .

I have never thought the guy was up to the job so my colours are already tied to the mast no humming and hawing from me .

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Mr Rae will look a wee bit silly if we lose the Clyde and subsequent couple of games. Much havoc has already been wreaked over JM's ability, but as soon as the fans start questioning the master, Jim will be out before he has time to pack his comics.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 19:54:03
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 30 2008, 07:46 PM) [snapback]393484[/snapback]
thats the spls fault not the sfa

The SFA are the governing body of Scottish Football, and have the final say in everything. Even the SPL must do what they're told.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 19:57:45
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jan 30 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]393485[/snapback]
MJ, there are some unfortunate circumstances surrounding the issue too though.

Remember why there was quite a few games cancelled there recently.

I'm well aware of the tragic death of Phil O'Donnell. I do not believe that cancelling matches in his memory was anything more than whimsical. Suitable and genuine tribute could and WOULD have been made at those matches.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 20:00:54
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 30 2008, 07:52 PM) [snapback]393493[/snapback]
Does that stand for....
Monkey Fur Inside ohmy.gif

Money for injections!
mortonjag 2008-01-30 20:09:47
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jan 30 2008, 08:03 PM) [snapback]393506[/snapback]
I would agree with that if he had passed away in his sleep however for someone to go the way he did must have been a shock for all those involved in the club. In my opinion the Dundee Utd game should also have been off.

I'm not saying that the SFA haven't c***ed up with the ground share this season but I don't think they can be held to task for all of the called off matches resulting in the the need to play so many games a week on the same pitch.

Agree to disagree on this one ? unsure.gif

What am I saying...... laugh.gif laugh.gif Black is white and Michael Fish called the weather correctly that night tongue.gif

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If we all just blame God, there will be nobody to argue with us...



OOPS....on second thoughts....sorry Big Man.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 20:11:25
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 30 2008, 08:09 PM) [snapback]393516[/snapback]
Mortonjag formerly ignored laugh.gif

McInally feels insecure.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 20:14:30
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jan 30 2008, 08:08 PM) [snapback]393514[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif

Lets hope its not a lump of coal and an orange in one of Dougie's old socks tongue.gif

A lump of coal in one of Dougie's old orange socks? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 20:17:48
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jan 30 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]393519[/snapback]
You can't climb down from cloud nine. Its called a come-doon, happens when you take illegal substances. Has monkey been spiking your tea again ? tongue.gif

Not sure what it is about the cup games but JM does seem to get those right for some reason. Luck ? Coincidence ?

PS : Quoted the whole post just to annoy the bloke on a rant about not quoting you tongue.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

The monkey knows better than to spike my tea-he is forced to check everything before I eat or drink, such is my fear of the Scapa mafia.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 20:19:56
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jan 30 2008, 08:15 PM) [snapback]393522[/snapback]
May you be struck down by a bolt of lightening and a plague of locusts come out of your arse laugh.gif

Thats revolting!
mortonjag 2008-01-30 20:21:54
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 30 2008, 07:15 PM) [snapback]393452[/snapback]
A bigger shame for the Inverclyde contingent who lost money tonight. laugh.gif

They'll probably already be too pished to give a toss.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 20:23:35
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jan 30 2008, 07:06 PM) [snapback]393439[/snapback]
wonder if its been caught on camera....

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mortonjag 2008-01-30 20:28:36
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Jan 30 2008, 08:23 PM) [snapback]393528[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

There's always a funny side to life's inevitabilities.

I remember Eric Morecambe's story about the time he had a heart attack in his car near the local hospital, and in tremendous pain managed to drive to A & E.

He staggered through the doors desperately clutching his chest and pleading for help, as the porters, to a man, looked at him and started creasing themselves with laughter. Fortunately he DID get treatment in time on that occasion.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 20:31:19
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 30 2008, 08:21 PM) [snapback]393525[/snapback]
To put The Monkey down ohmy.gif

Don't be a silly Willow-the Monkey's immortal.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 20:32:20
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 30 2008, 08:25 PM) [snapback]393531[/snapback]
like hell they do, the SPL alone are to blame.

let's call it quits and blame Mileson then! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 20:34:08
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jan 30 2008, 08:23 PM) [snapback]393527[/snapback]
not a game id bet on!

Thats what the bookies seem to be saying! It goes against the grain, but the only real winner goes for the draw!
mortonjag 2008-01-30 20:37:32
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 30 2008, 08:29 PM) [snapback]393539[/snapback]
Knew 3. Although cat gut is made from plastic now.

Only in plastic pussies!
mortonjag 2008-01-30 20:39:07
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jan 30 2008, 08:37 PM) [snapback]393551[/snapback]
These are the normal admission prices - it's been £4 for kids all season. laugh.gif laugh.gif

Still kinda heavy on your pocket money son.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 20:45:30
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 29 2008, 06:10 PM) [snapback]392798[/snapback]
Hello,

My fiancee and I have provisionally booked Greenock Registry Office for our wedding ceremony on Saturday 31st May.

I am contemplating having a small wedding party after the ceremony for family and friends ; not a big hulla-balloo,just a small celebration, after-all, my fiancee has no family here.

My question is, has anyone hired anywhere locally recently for a small function ? I'd be interested in advice upon numbers venues can hold and prices.

Good man-nothing like keeping your options open.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 21:17:32
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jan 30 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]393585[/snapback]
i beg to differ, m'lud. it's not so much about having no opinion as knowingly trying to have it both ways.

not so much being on the fence as being down on either side whenever it suits. appearing to support both sides of a dispute rather than going with the flow.

although it's Manchesterton who should elaborate biggrin.gif

Apologies your Honour, you are of course correct with 'knowingly'.

Notwithstanding, many who 'run with the hare and hunt with the hounds' are incapable of forming an independent opinion, in consequence knowingly proffering both sides in an attempt to save face.

I hope that's correct, though manchesterton will no doubt elaborate at some juncture.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 21:20:46
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jan 30 2008, 09:04 PM) [snapback]393587[/snapback]
maybe you should give him some more then, dad tongue.gif

That might make you jealous son.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 21:27:09
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 30 2008, 09:22 PM) [snapback]393602[/snapback]
I like women who play pull the sausage.

Tirer le saucisson sounds slightly more sophisticated.

'Veux tu jouer a tirer le saucisson Madame'?


'Quoi?

WALLOP!!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 21:29:08
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 30 2008, 09:20 PM) [snapback]393601[/snapback]
Was our last quarter final against Celtic at Cappielow quite a few years ago?

Probably.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 21:31:32
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jan 30 2008, 09:20 PM) [snapback]393598[/snapback]
***BREAKING NEWS***

Talks with Jenkins have stalled over bonuses. Jenkins and his agent had previously negotiated a bag of "Half-Pounders" for a win, but it would seem that Morton are only offering two tubes of Millons.

The saga continues...
Any word on the signing?!

Aye-the half pounders production line are on overtime as we speak.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 21:35:30
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jan 30 2008, 09:33 PM) [snapback]393610[/snapback]
i'll ask mummy then - she's obviously incapable of saying no

YOU CHEEKY WEE b*****d! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 21:36:40 Welcome back!!! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 21:39:41
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 30 2008, 09:38 PM) [snapback]393615[/snapback]
The length of time this Jenkins signing has taken I think everyone at Scapa could've passed a diploma by now.

Diplomacy at Scapa Willow? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 21:41:25
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 30 2008, 09:40 PM) [snapback]393617[/snapback]
was there a game on,

Fraid I couldn't miss it Bryan-I'm a mile from Hampden! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-31 06:40:08
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jan 30 2008, 10:20 PM) [snapback]393637[/snapback]
Thing is though, I'm sure you wrote a letter into the paper a few seasons ago the week after a home win vs Partick Thistle saying the same thing.

Now, you would sack him even if we won successive Scottish Cup ties.

You could count on the fingers of one hand the number of Managers who've been sacked the week after winning a game.

It's this kind of irrational and constant abuse that really does my tits in about the whole thing. I mean the guys with TTG etc in their signature really shouldn't bother turning up.

Probably my defence of McInally has been more vociferous than I really believe in - simply because of the guys on here who would quite happilly have seen Jim sacked the day after the end of last season.

These guys obviously aint judging someone on their merits, but just on the fact they don't like Jim. They gloss over his successes as irrelevent,
and seem to believe ANYONE is better than him. That is their biggest error, ANYONE is not better than him. Yes, some people will be, but some people will def not be.

they also seem to think replacing the manager will fix everything and we'll do what...? - go back to winning every game? We've never been able to do that, but even when we won almost every game in the 2nd they still weren't happy. We'll still be stuck with the same chairman who has almost no ability in dealing with contracts or new signings.

I don't think Dougie will pay the cash to bring a new manager in. Certainly with our league form, a chairman would have been justified in sacking him, if he had any confidence he could bring someone in who was any good. I don't believe Dougie would necesarilly be able to do that. He would take the cheap option like he has done in the past, arguably with what he did when Jim was brought in.

And I do feel that there is a case that any cash would be better spent on the team, rather than a new manager.

Don't know if I'm included in the hit list Piehole!


I've had the unfortunate dilemma of thinking JM was rather poor from about the fourth or fifth time we played under him. I've constantly hoped he'd improve, and on several occasions when we've gone on a good wee run, I've thought-'maybe I'm wrong',- but EVERY SINGLE TIME it's then been back to more of the same.

Wanting him out has nothing to do with dislike, or personal vendetta-simply the feelings of a logical Ton fan who loves the club more than any personality within it.

You do many a disservice in your post-we're not all blinkered fools you know.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 06:43:03
QUOTE(Kekkoman @ Jan 31 2008, 12:50 AM) [snapback]393683[/snapback]
That link doesnt work btw

He must have gone to beddy baws.



West Brom closing in on Dorrans
Livingston's Graham Dorrans
Dorrans has come through the Livingston youth ranks
West Bromwich Albion are close to beating Inverness to the signature of Livingston winger Graham Dorrans for a fee of about £250,000.

The Scotland Under-21 international has been tracked by a host of clubs, including Rangers, Hearts, Inverness, Dundee United and Middlesbrough.

But he impressed West Brom manager Tony Mowbray during a recent trial spell.

And Inverness boss Craig Brewster has admitted that West Brom are in pole position to sign Dorrans.

Dorrans has 18 months of his contract still to run with First Division outfit Livingston.

He started his career as a youth player with Livi and has scored 10 goals in 26 appearances this season.


I am happy with the squad, so it is unlikely we will make any other additions before the window shuts

Inverness Caledonian Thistle player-manager Craig Brewster

Livingston manager Mark Proctor has said he would not stand in the player's way if a suitable offer was made.

"Livingston have been telling us that they are waiting to find out what West Brom are doing regarding the player, so all we can do is wait at the moment," Brewster told Caley Thistle's website.

"Dorrans is a player I rate and I would love to bring him to the club, but we are stuck in the middle at the moment.

"As I have stated on many occasions, I am happy with the squad, so it is unlikely we will make any other additions before the window shuts."

Brewster, meanwhile, said that talks were continuing with Ross Tokely, Dennis Wyness and Russell Duncan about extended contracts.

mortonjag 2008-01-31 06:44:54
18 HOURS
mortonjag 2008-01-31 06:52:23
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 30 2008, 11:21 PM) [snapback]393658[/snapback]
Is it for her ability to Bangkok?
Like I'm sure you havn't heard that one about a thousand times laugh.gif

Maybe just loves the lady and wants to Thai the knot asap!
mortonjag 2008-01-31 06:55:50
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 31 2008, 12:41 AM) [snapback]393682[/snapback]
i hear the song to be played at the funeral is

"i wanna hold your (wee) hand"

by the beadles

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mortonjag 2008-01-31 07:11:12 Who would true valour see,
Let him come hither;
One here will constant be,
Come wind, come weather
There's no discouragement
Shall make him once relent
His first avowed intent
To be a Ton fan.

Whoso beset him round
With dismal stories
Do but themselves confound;
His strength the more is.
No lion can him fright,
He'll with a giant fight,
He will have a right
To be a Ton fan

Hobgoblin nor foul fiend
Can daunt his spirit
He hopes he at the end
Fame shall inherit
Then fancies fly away
He'll fear not what men say,
He'll labour night and day
To be a Ton fan.



Original version written by John Bunyan while imprisoned for refusing to go with the flow.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 07:34:03
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 31 2008, 07:12 AM) [snapback]393696[/snapback]
It's like waiting for the new stocks of Wii's to come out

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They WILL though.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 07:47:35 As we knew would happen, this is the talk of Scottish football today, even though it was called off earlier than our match with Gretna, and the opposing side was from Glasgow.

Varying shades of opinion-mostly predictable, but I love this quote--


McGhee also said the groundshare with Gretna was not to blame, because the flooding only affected one area of the pitch, which needs to be upgraded.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Something not quite logical there Mark!
mortonjag 2008-01-31 07:58:53
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 31 2008, 07:42 AM) [snapback]393698[/snapback]
Alright. Let's list 5 players who will either leave or join Morton tomorrow. 1 point for each one you get right. Winner owes me a pint.

1 - Allan Jenkins
2 - Ryan Conroy
3 - Chris Aitken
4 - Kieran McAnespie
5 - Jim McAllister



1/ Jenkins deal vetoed by the SFA after it was discovered he signed with an ineligible pen


2/ Conroy dissuaded by scare stories from Gowsa, who secretly believed Mr Rae was going to offer two million for him at five to twelve.


3/ Chris Aitken signs along with our new Manager-Alan Moore.


4/ McAnespie stays because nobody else wants him


5/ Jimbo knocks back a last ditch bid from Motherwell, saying 'I was ploughing fields when I was twelve years old, but that place is too, too much'.

mortonjag 2008-01-31 08:05:51
QUOTE(theton1 @ Jan 31 2008, 07:59 AM) [snapback]393701[/snapback]
It looks like empty promises again, every time the transfer window opens we are told of the superstars that the club are intersted in, we never sign them. dont get me wrong we just signed Wake 24 games 3 goals (he must be good) I never heard of the guy until now.
Maybe if we stop giving our players away, we could aford a bit of quality not just token buys, I hate to say it but for the first time this season I worry about relegation, its took us so long to get back were we belong to just throw it away, I dont know who the blame rests at, either JM does not know what he is doing or Dougie is holding him back. OR IT COULD BE BOTH.
There must be a reason why the targets wont come to cappielow, and sign for the likes of clyde hamilton and dundee.
Also the handling of Chris Millars contract was abismal, how can we sell players on when they leave it to late, we lost out on that deal. And Big sanny we paid 100K and gave him away,or did we?

Have patience -that's what I was saying at this exact juncture last time, and sure enough, we made two signings late in the day. Don't be too hard on Mr Rae-he'll be emphasising in his programme notes that we've already got Barry Smith, Ryan McGuffie, and Brian Wake. If only Jenkins comes, we've maybe not had our hopes and expectations fulfilled, but it could have been a lot worse-another experienced player on top of that and we'll comfortably end up mid-table.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 09:07:06
15 HOURS
mortonjag 2008-01-31 09:09:23 We have today completed the signing of striker Brian Wake.

24 year old Wake has been with Hamilton Accies for the last two seasons. He will be eligible for selection for the squad for Saturdays Scottish Cup tie against Queen of the South.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 09:14:42
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2008, 09:06 AM) [snapback]393713[/snapback]
Are you even surprised it is more of a big deal?

Motherwell are a bigger club than both Morton and Gretna...and Celtic might be too! This fixture had a lot more interest from a lot more people. It was to be expected it would be talked about more!

Morton are potentially a bigger club than Motherwell-of course I'm unsurprised Puggs-what angers me is that if more attention had been paid to the problem after our postponement, last night's fiasco may never have happened in the first place.


Those who do not learn from history are condemned to re-live it.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 09:24:39
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jan 31 2008, 09:22 AM) [snapback]393723[/snapback]
Shut the f*** up ya w*nker, was having a laugh as most know what im like on here, away and watch the birds

A big seagull just shat on my neighbur's new car!

That WAS funny. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-31 09:27:48
QUOTE(kilbrideton @ Jan 31 2008, 09:22 AM) [snapback]393724[/snapback]
Tend to agree mate. I do feel a bit for Brechin though as this seems to be happening more and more and this in an age where we can find rules and signing details on the internet at ease. The SFA seem to be allowing the one of the oldest cup tournements to develop into farce. When a team enters it`s team sheets they should be checked by the ref aginst a list of eligible players for that tie. It`s the SFA that register players so it aint hard surely?

I wonder how often this has happened previously and gone unnoticed. It doesn't alter the fact that Hamilton are bad losers, girnin' faced c*nts, and have a presence on an SFA committee.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 09:33:44
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 31 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]393731[/snapback]
I understand that Gretna had an ineligible player listed (Kissock). However someone said that after the warm up he got changed and sat in the stand as they had realised that he was ineligible. Had he even sat on the bench, they could have been fined, as Queens were last season (£25k FFS!) for fielding Jamie Adams who had been an (unused) substitute in Killie's humping at Cappielow in the previous round.

Seems a rather obscure rule about having to sign before the original tie date. Typical SFA, and ridiculous to fine clubs like Brechin and Queens such large sums when they are struggling to keep their heads above water. No doubtthe money raised from the fines will be passed on to the OF in some shape or form.

Securicor van perhaps.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 09:38:51
QUOTE(theton1 @ Jan 31 2008, 09:28 AM) [snapback]393729[/snapback]
I agree to a certain extent, however we need a quality striker to get the feel good factor back at the club. Also with sanny gone we dont reallyhave much in the way of cover,we cant expect weatherson and russell to stay fit all season,I hope im wrong but I dont think wake is the answer. has wake signed yet??? and is there any news of another signing before todays deadline??

Wake's signing's been confirmed on GMFC.net.

Don't mean to be patronising, but many of us have been saying the same as you for ages and are weary of waiting. I believe the exercise right now has to be damage limitation. Hopefully the Club has learned from its mistakes in time to prepare for a better season next year.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 09:51:49
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jan 31 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]393737[/snapback]
ahahahahah Theres a first laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-01-31 10:18:02
QUOTE(bettybo @ Jan 31 2008, 09:59 AM) [snapback]393742[/snapback]
tongue.gif so did big Greacen not beat Decucher to every ball,on monday!!!,thank god McInally read the daily record blink.gif blink.gif

He did indeed-well the Quack actually got a header onto a post but we'll not count that. He, like the rest of his bumpkin buddies looked poor (or were they made to look poor)?

Anyway-onwards and upwards for the big ginger one??
mortonjag 2008-01-31 10:20:57
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 31 2008, 10:12 AM) [snapback]393744[/snapback]
I've had exactly the same discussion with other folk who swear blind something would be cheap at half the price - of course it is!!

You need to do something about those buffoons you keep company with Ratarse-in the context of MidTON's post Alibi is spot on.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 10:25:31
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 31 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]393749[/snapback]
Oh dear, one wee set of supporters have wasted travelling money to get to Motherwell, whatever shall they do? sad.gif

Travel to f*cking Dumfries and spend more, shall they? mad.gif

There are some excellent pitches in county Cork I'm told!
mortonjag 2008-01-31 11:46:56
QUOTE(dmc @ Jan 31 2008, 11:09 AM) [snapback]393759[/snapback]
According to todays Sun he should be signed before the end of the transfer window! unsure.gif

Which one?
mortonjag 2008-01-31 11:49:45
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jan 31 2008, 11:46 AM) [snapback]393777[/snapback]
We have had a fairly successful window so far and if we can add Jenkins then I think we will have done reasonably well:

IN
Smith
McGuffie
Wake
(Jenkins)

OUT
Linn
Templeman
Shields
Gardyne
Keenan (loan)
(Millar)

I think that we have definately improved the squad with those signings and the players coming in are better than the players going out with the possible exception of Temps and maybe Linn. Shields and Gardyne were no use and they have been effectively replaced by Smith and McGuffie who definately add more to the squad. Not seen an awful lot of Wake, so judgement is reserved for now. Sanny wanted to leave for personal reasons as he was not getting a game and East Fife are likely to be in the 2nd division next season and Sanny has a job over on the East coast to go back to.

If we can add Jenkins to the squad and hold onto Millar, we should be alright. Our signings have been reasonably well spread out over the transfer window.

Shields was definitely NOT 'no use', and Gardyne didn't get a chance to establish himself. Both would still have been useful squad members IMO.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 11:52:55
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jan 31 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]393763[/snapback]
Just seen on the news, Brechin have been thrown out of the cup.

Slimy snake Scott Struthers with his forked tongue up important arses at Hampden.

Hamilton were gubbed by a side in a lower division, and they can't take their beating. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-31 11:54:30
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 31 2008, 11:43 AM) [snapback]393775[/snapback]
Hope it was Beemer cool.gif

Red Audi TT!!! laugh.gif

Now has a Hamilton strip!!
mortonjag 2008-01-31 11:57:07
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jan 31 2008, 11:26 AM) [snapback]393766[/snapback]
Or....You've been flamed.
Taxi!

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Cremation Peking style.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 12:02:43 He looks pretty broad-

I'd call him Widey.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 12:11:36
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 31 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]393802[/snapback]
Obviously from our response I need to go on the same diplomacy coarse as your good self . laugh.gif

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It wasn't JUST diplomacy Chris-wee Gardyne looked to me to have potential, and Shields would have been just the boy to handle certain opposition players, but of course we've been weakening the squad, at least in terms of numbers.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 12:13:41
QUOTE(Jamie_M @ Jan 31 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]393804[/snapback]
Widey wake?

Terrible!

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You have a better suggestion?

Finnegan's perhaps?
mortonjag 2008-01-31 12:16:35
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 31 2008, 11:49 AM) [snapback]393781[/snapback]
The Sun? Or is that a typo and you actually mean "son", i.e. Crawford Rae....

Which is more reliable? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-31 12:19:09
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 31 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]393806[/snapback]
Don't know if we know have enough dwarves in the team now unsure.gif

Point of correction-dwarves are deformed-midgets, however, are little people, but perfectly formed!!!

If Brian lives up to his bustling reputation, he might be called the General.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 12:20:52
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Jan 31 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]393799[/snapback]
i amybe wrong, but did Chris Aitken not play for us before?

Yes.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 12:37:40 The Telegraph also believes Morton will sign one more player before the transfer window closes at midnight tonight.

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mortonjag 2008-01-31 12:43:08
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 31 2008, 12:40 PM) [snapback]393818[/snapback]
Works now, for some reason the link and the name that I typed in were round the wrong way huh.gif

Duplication young man! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-31 12:44:37
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 31 2008, 12:42 PM) [snapback]393821[/snapback]
It's Khali (or murderer, I suppose), simple as! rolleyes.gif

Hope it doesn't end up being Wally.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 14:31:08
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2008, 01:19 PM) [snapback]393846[/snapback]
Is this you or the monkey talking? It's hard to tell these days!!!! In my lifetime we have never been bigger than Motherwell!

Give it time!
mortonjag 2008-01-31 14:32:39
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 31 2008, 01:16 PM) [snapback]393844[/snapback]
Yes, but what happens if we are playing at Inverness? A chant of "Khali, Khali" would be a bit confusing...

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mortonjag 2008-01-31 14:42:54 May the Dons humiliate the whinging creeps, breaking several legs in the process, before officially complaining that their club secretary was discovered altering players names on the Dons team sheet whilst all were engrossed in the game.

Hamilton subsequently fined £5 and Struthers suspended from the Referees committee pending a bribe.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 14:46:40
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Jan 31 2008, 02:32 PM) [snapback]393875[/snapback]
If the tele story is accurate and we could be signing 1 more in addition to Jenkins (fingers still crossed on that one)....what position would you want the new guy to be? Don't need names just position.

I would like him to be a striker if we are persistinmg with 3 at the back.

Similar to Smith (assuming he's going).
mortonjag 2008-01-31 14:49:04
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2008, 01:18 PM) [snapback]393845[/snapback]
By "we" you mean her...or have you not gotten your hole ever? blink.gif
You may, I may not answer

Did you think you held the World record?
mortonjag 2008-01-31 14:55:47
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 31 2008, 02:50 PM) [snapback]393890[/snapback]
I'd rather wait and sign a replacement for Smith in the summer. More bosman's around, clubs ask for less, etc. Smith will do until then.

True-well Jenkins has signed and we've


STILL NINE HOURS LEFT
mortonjag 2008-01-31 15:00:12
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2008, 02:56 PM) [snapback]393897[/snapback]
*predicts the "why is it we can get this from the Gretna website and not ours" which I'm sure Mortonjag is slevering over the now to post!*

I'd rather ask if you are proud of that abysmal adulteration of your native tongue. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-31 15:46:03
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2008, 03:18 PM) [snapback]393921[/snapback]
Isn't that your monkey? wink.gif

My Monkey does not believe in sex before marriage either.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 15:50:29
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2008, 03:20 PM) [snapback]393925[/snapback]
I'd love to be proven wrong, but I don't even think these days we have the potential!

We do-give it time!
mortonjag 2008-01-31 15:56:01
NO



Far too little, far too late.


Oh-well, I suppose it could be worse.

Credit where due!


ONLY EIGHT HOURS NOW



Get the bloody finger oot Shoogly.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 16:01:26
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2008, 03:17 PM) [snapback]393917[/snapback]
What have indians got to do with it? blink.gif

Did I mention injuns? Your grammar and syntax left much to be desired, and you have been held to account!
mortonjag 2008-01-31 16:04:06
QUOTE(BluebirdTon @ Jan 31 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]393963[/snapback]
I'm not willing to judge this signing,"until i see him in hoops". smile.gif

Everytime we get excited,they turn out to be pish.

I think that's a wee bit harsh given Jenkins' record, but I agree in general. Far too little far too late, and the fans are drooling all over Rae already-no wonder the Old Duffer is so irrepressible.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 16:09:34
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 31 2008, 03:58 PM) [snapback]393965[/snapback]
What do you mean too little too late? Released players who have never really cut it at Cappielow and brought in three guys with Division 1 or higher experience in posistions we needed strengthened plus one more to come. Stop greetin' for a minute MortonJag

Jesus-here we go again-every single time the club does something slightly positive the past is forgotten.

What do I mean sonny boy?--------------------I mean it's


FAR TOO LITTLE FAR TOO LATE


I did not say it's a bad signing-credit to the club for hopefully beginning to waken to reality.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 16:12:11
QUOTE(big B @ Jan 31 2008, 04:08 PM) [snapback]393978[/snapback]
With all the negativity recently Dougie and Jim should take a pat on the back with these signings it will be intresting to see if we do in fact get the othe player in they are hoping to sign.

They deserve a little credit for finally doing what half the division's been at for weeks!
mortonjag 2008-01-31 16:13:28
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jan 31 2008, 04:08 PM) [snapback]393977[/snapback]
khali gets my vote wink.gif

Makin Ali signs Manik Khali.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 16:18:59
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]393961[/snapback]
Your first night as man and monk must have been a bit nerve racking then. Was the monkey able to perform?

You've got this so wrong young man-the Monkey is a person in his own right-why don't you pop him a p.m. and he'll send you a reply when he's finished studying for the prelims.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 16:29:47
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 31 2008, 04:16 PM) [snapback]393983[/snapback]
Where has anyone said the past is forgotten? It's a good signing and, overall, we've done well this transfer window. But, omnipotent one, what would have sufficed in your eyes?


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I was a bit tongue in cheek-of course I'm happy with Smith, McGuffie, and Jenkins. The jury's still out on Manik Khali mind you.

I still DO believe that in terms of the time Rae's been in charge, with us sitting potentially second bottom of the Division- it's taken an eternity for some eyes to open to reality.

Assuming we DO start to pull away now, I'd like the Chairman to come out with an open statement of intent for the future.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 17:32:49
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 31 2008, 04:37 PM) [snapback]393998[/snapback]
And as for the nickname, I suppose Khali would do smile.gif

Jaws' Baws beats Greacen's Genitals!
mortonjag 2008-01-31 17:36:49
QUOTE(tondaft @ Jan 31 2008, 04:48 PM) [snapback]394009[/snapback]
1.Ryan Balldichino of Gretna(sorry if spellings wrong)
2.Kenny Deuchar

Thought i'd put down two gretna players seen as weve already signed two of there 1st team players laugh.gif

Deuchar wouldn't come here but wee Baldy would be an asset for certain.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 17:59:10 [quote name='Scott_Gillan' post='394005' date='Jan 31 2008, 04:45 PM']I bet you cant wait to one of them make a mistake or Dougie does something wrong (In Your Eyes)

You are the biggest tosser on this board and are really starting to become annoying again

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Scotty boy-it's your blinkered affiliation to the powers that be, which prevents you from seeing the truth behind the 'hyped' criticism I'm constantly making.

Why is it acceptable for you to call me a 'tosser', and why am I not allowed to make legitimate points about a regime whose hallmark has been 'Too little too late'.

I was right about Mileson, right about McInally, and I'm right about Rae-almost everybody who slaughtered me in the past for my outspoken opinions has acknowledged that to a greater or lesser degree, but your tongue still seems wedged half a mile up the Chairman's arse.

You expect me to pay homage to a man whose only claim to fame is making sweeties and almost ruining his own ego trip!!! That's daft in the extreme. I WILL give credit where I see it's due-things at the moment are better, and let's hope they continue to improve.

Now to your 'biggest tosser' comment.

Would you be at all offended if I described you as a jumped up and arrogant little brat whose self satisfaction has blinded him to any respect for his elders and betters? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-31 18:03:16
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2008, 05:09 PM) [snapback]394023[/snapback]
You mentioned natives tongues wink.gif

And I know my grammar is generally awful! tongue.gif

It was singular boy!
mortonjag 2008-01-31 18:04:45
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 31 2008, 05:48 PM) [snapback]394051[/snapback]
Happy with the signing of Jenkins I can only hope that McGuffie has been pinning for him to come on board .
Not seen or heard of Wake and we'll have to wait and see how good /bad he is before praising /slaughtering the guy.
I'd still go with ThornTon about a defender but if thats our lot it is an improvement on the gash we got in during the summer . The season should never have been such a struggle if we had a plan b .

I do think because of our situation in the league that we have realised we need to strengthen rather than a desire to build for the future .

Obviously I await the bludgeoning of posts declaring me a negative b4$t4rd over the last comment .

The rose tints were always lying handy Chris!
mortonjag 2008-01-31 18:10:50
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 31 2008, 05:36 PM) [snapback]394044[/snapback]
Now, now Mortonjag, that's not alliteration, is it?

Jaws' jejunum then.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 18:16:12 [quote name='pgmsc' date='Jan 31 2008, 06:03 PM' post='394059']
Respect is gained not by age and not with arrogant comments like betters


In MR Rae's case, it seems to be gained easily from daft wee boys who aren't fit to lace Mortonjag's boots.

Now go away nasty man.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 18:17:12
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2008, 06:04 PM) [snapback]394062[/snapback]
What was just the one boy?

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Now you're being obtuse! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-31 18:19:48
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]393995[/snapback]
No, you have it all wrong.

I know the monkey is a person in his own right. I just think you forced him into...unpeeling your banana as it were smile.gif

Ah-you think we're lovers Puggs-well there's no shame in loving my wee Munx surely?
mortonjag 2008-01-31 18:23:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]394071[/snapback]
Codename: I win.

Accounts student 1 - 0 Retired boring old docter!

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mortonjag 2008-01-31 18:25:46 This is the sort of thing we have to acknowledge when we enthuse over current happenings at GMFC.

That's not a criticism-just a reminder of where we really are at the moment.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 18:32:00
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2008, 06:26 PM) [snapback]394081[/snapback]
Higher B though biggrin.gif
That's because I'm in uni the now and don't have my own mozilla with the built in spell check. sad.gif

...and to think I'm going to graduate in the summer ph34r.gif

Care to diagnose me with a mild case of dyslexia please jaggy?

It's perfectly possible Puggs-spelling doesn't ultimately matter much in the modern world-except to old fuddy duddies who were educated just after the Ark hit dry land.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 18:34:03
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2008, 06:26 PM) [snapback]394083[/snapback]
Khali it is!!!! biggrin.gif

Look at those eyes-definitely Manik Khali for me!
mortonjag 2008-01-31 18:45:38
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 31 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]394099[/snapback]
Baldacchino's a sand dancer, I wouldn't have him in my fives team.*
*obviously I would but you understand my meaning

He's a tricky wee bugger who would at least be an asset on the wings. If Khali/Jaws is going to be any use to us, we could do with somebody who can sling decent crosses over-something Jimbo and Kev do only once in a while.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 18:47:32
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jan 31 2008, 06:44 PM) [snapback]394101[/snapback]
would be a great addition but he'll prolly end up at dundee or hamilton dry.gif

cant get my head round whats happening at gretna. they spend a s*** load of money over the past 2/3 years, get into the premier league then release most of the squad and replace them with young loan signings from england. I won't be surprised if they go to the wall soon

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mortonjag 2008-01-31 18:49:02
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 31 2008, 06:44 PM) [snapback]394102[/snapback]
In all serioussness, I think this will give McGuffie a boost too ,having his mucker back.

People have been expecting a lot of McGuffie and this signing will take a weight of his shoulders and hopefully enable him to express himself more.

Please tell me I'm talking sense

Huffy looked a lot better on Monday and linked with Spoonsy for one of his goals. He'll come good-Jenkins will hopefully have a stabilising and motivating effect on the whole squad.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 18:52:25
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jan 31 2008, 06:46 PM) [snapback]394106[/snapback]
MJ, a positive comment from you. People will think your going soft tongue.gif

We should be in the SPL Gash-I've never doubted our potential from day one.

A large part of my anger/frustration at our current situation stems from the fact that the Chairman seems to have lost his initial ambition.

I'm praying that Mr Donald is a good egg and will splash the cash in the near future.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 19:02:10
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jan 31 2008, 06:54 PM) [snapback]394116[/snapback]
agreed, and don't think we ever will

Well in my lifetime we have, and our potential fanbase can easily compete with Motherwell's (especially when Hamilton are doing so well).

We are also potentially bigger than every other provincial club currently in the SPL, including Killie, Falkirk, and the Midden.

The negativity boys are never happier than when they're having a good old moan-eh! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-31 19:07:46
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jan 31 2008, 06:49 PM) [snapback]394112[/snapback]
something your not telling me brooks unsure.gif

Yes, my mother and father have both been terribly ill. I'm just out of hospital myself for the tenth time this year, and I've lost my cowboy boots in the Chippy. One of the llama's is dying of AIDS., and that f*ckin' tax man's been sniffing around again.

For those reasons I've had to leave the running of the club to others.

Please don't blame me for all this-it was done with the best of intentions.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 06:57:48
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 31 2008, 07:32 PM) [snapback]394135[/snapback]
My lifetime's about the same length as yours and I agree with much of your post but we've never been bigger than Killie in my span. I remember them winning the league in the sixties (having said that, we beat them 5-0 at Cappielow that season) and I remember them playing Real Madrid in a competitive match. The always had a bigger and better stadium than Cappielow.

Falkirk undoubtedly have overtaken us as they were always a smaller club and St Mirren generally were about the same.

We've never quite matched the success of Killie for very long, but I'm absolutely certain our fan base potential is significantly larger-both in terms of size of population and also in its concentration.

Irrespective of that, there's absolutely no reason why Geenock Morton should not be a name on the same level as those other clubs we've mentioned.

Has the nadir now been touched-I'm hoing and praying.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 07:03:44
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jan 29 2008, 02:15 AM) [snapback]392385[/snapback]
I think you will find they were not all JM signings and there lies our problem !!!!!

Hmm!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 07:06:56
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 31 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]394166[/snapback]
And before the subject goes back to what it's supposed to be, I got 2 unconditional offers from the University of Glasgow today for Maths courses smile.gif

I thought you wanted to study anatomy! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 07:09:13
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 31 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]394198[/snapback]
If it makes money, who gies a feck! tongue.gif

That's the rocky road down which many a bright young man has stumbled GG.

Let me assure you it's frequently a huge mistake.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 07:23:11
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 1 2008, 12:14 AM) [snapback]394437[/snapback]
No offence, but you know the old saying.

"Arguing on the internet is like racing in the special olympics"

"Even if you win you're still retarded"

Neither of you two have helped disprove that this evening wink.gif

This boy has some way with words, -eh Bryan?
mortonjag 2008-02-01 07:37:43
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 31 2008, 08:25 PM) [snapback]394169[/snapback]
we had just been relegated and were bottom at christmas. the new year saw us go on an 11 game unbeaten run and we finished comfortably mid table. the next year (with the backing of jimmy greaves on saint and greavsie!)we won the 1st. biggrin.gif
be great to think we can now consolidate whilst giving us something to cheer and have a real crack next season.

i seem to remember the team in 85/86 being awarded a holiday in spain for their efforts only to lose their next game biggrin.gif

Football always has its ups and downs and I've a strong feeling we've finally bottomed out this season. I sense that JM's had much more input throughout this signing window, and that there may be less meddling from on high in future.

Leopards don't change their spots, but they can still learn new tricks.

We may now have enough impetus on the pitch to make the wishy washy stuff a thing of the past. With Barry Smith in defence, and Jenkins in the boilerhouse, we've definitely added experience we sadly lacked, and if Khali lives up to his name we'll get less of the powder puff stuff at the front. McGuffie looked much better against Gretna, and Midge is on form. Jamie will hopefully re-kindle his, and if Spoonsy could just sort himself! Jimbo and Kev seem to be on fire at the moment too.

FFS Forza-I think you're spot on. We will now finish fourth.

The Monkey said it first! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 07:46:43
QUOTE(Mr.Kennedy @ Feb 1 2008, 02:25 AM) [snapback]394456[/snapback]
This is all getting a little out of hand...

So is that bloody beadle beetle on your signature-get it to f*ck! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 07:48:19 Beadle's stuff was FAR more cosmopolitan.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 07:49:35
QUOTE(tondaft @ Feb 1 2008, 07:47 AM) [snapback]394475[/snapback]
just wondering if we signed anyone else apart from jenkins before the window closed huh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-02-01 08:55:56
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 1 2008, 08:51 AM) [snapback]394497[/snapback]
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Just when I thought that this board was doomed to the darkest boredom, along comes a glimmer of hope. Cheers T.I.D.

The theory of evolution and natural selection is backed by a huge amount of evidence. Who brewed up the primitive soup from which all seems to have emerged?

For me 'Nothing comes from nothing-nothing ever could', and somebody has still to come up with definitive proof of the non-existence of a higher power.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 09:03:26
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 1 2008, 08:35 AM) [snapback]394488[/snapback]
hey, i never made a prediction - just a wish

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What's going on BTW-no c*nts argued with me! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 09:04:38
QUOTE(princessTON @ Feb 1 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]394501[/snapback]
just spotted douglas raes car outside mcleans museum when i was walking up to college. maybe that him in fixing up an old dinosaur for the rest of the season??? tongue.gif

Can he not put on the make-up at home Princess?
mortonjag 2008-02-01 09:06:15
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 1 2008, 08:18 AM) [snapback]394484[/snapback]
What you going on about today?

Connotations.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 09:07:22
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 1 2008, 08:40 AM) [snapback]394490[/snapback]
Don't let anyone say that standards are slipping in Higher English... smile.gif

Good to hear your news WDE - I hope you and the soon-to-be Mrs End (or is she going to go for the hyphenated Mrs Dublin-End which sounds quite aristocratic?) will be very happy.

Wee Mrs Dublin-End?
mortonjag 2008-02-01 09:09:51
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 1 2008, 08:17 AM) [snapback]394483[/snapback]
he might for example be happier as a lumberjack

....and put on ladies clothing just like his dear Mama?
mortonjag 2008-02-01 09:12:01
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 1 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]394510[/snapback]
I fail to see it!

Clue-'retarded'!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 09:13:47
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 1 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]394505[/snapback]
That'll be the day when someone can come up with 'definitive proof' that something or someone doesn't exist. Maybe there is or maybe there isn't an invisible bogeyman lurking in your cupboard. biggrin.gif

Shouldn't that be my 'invisible' cupboard DE?
mortonjag 2008-02-01 09:20:42
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 1 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]394512[/snapback]
That was harsh of you Mentaljag, harsh.

Couldn't resist the lead from the lady in the Ton tutu.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 09:23:43
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 1 2008, 09:17 AM) [snapback]394518[/snapback]
You can't fool me Mentaljag, I can see through your transparency. You're the invisible man, aren't you?

I must be DE. When I look in the mirror I can see right through to some decrepit old dosser standing behind me.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 09:24:42
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 1 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]394499[/snapback]
Aye, Country Joe MacDonald. Just as he said, f*** the War.

Poppy myxomatosis would sort all those c*nts out!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 09:49:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 1 2008, 09:39 AM) [snapback]394523[/snapback]
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Sounds (or looks) strangely familiar.

Divisible invisibility!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 09:58:41
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 1 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]394527[/snapback]
If they play him and we lose, we can complain. Got to be a positive thing, surely? biggrin.gif

They won't and we will win!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 10:00:40
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 1 2008, 09:52 AM) [snapback]394528[/snapback]
There's a contradiction in there surely. Pascal's wager is founded on self interest whereas Jesus Christ, so they tell me, was all about selflessness. And I'm not a betting man.

Haud on-are we talking about a creator being here or just Christian philosophy?
mortonjag 2008-02-01 10:09:45 The club has, this afternoon, completed the signing of midfielder Allan Jenkins.

The player reached agreement with Gretna today regarding his release, and this allowed the signing to finally be completed.

Jenkins will not, however, be eligible for Saturdays Scottish Cup match, having played for Gretna against Morton in the 4th Round.


Nothing like a big welcome to 'Jenkins'-eh? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 10:11:36
QUOTE(northseaton @ Feb 1 2008, 10:09 AM) [snapback]394538[/snapback]
Dorrans is staying put until the end of the season so I would doubt that would be the stumbling block to Snodgrass being sold, over the piece i`m happy with our acquisitions

I'm happy too as an interim measure.

What do you envisage for next season?
mortonjag 2008-02-01 10:13:50
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 1 2008, 10:12 AM) [snapback]394542[/snapback]
Only you could turn a positive into a negative wink.gif

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Well it definitely wasn't written in Shooglyesque-that'll come later in the programme no doubt! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 10:15:29
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Feb 1 2008, 10:12 AM) [snapback]394541[/snapback]
Im kind of happy but another PROVEN striker wouldnt have gone a miss imo. Still, best of luck to Mr Wake and Jenkins.
also
http://www.cpfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Profi...3~40093,00.html

Is Moses coming to lead us to the promised land Gibby?
mortonjag 2008-02-01 10:22:00
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 1 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]394547[/snapback]
Maybe you could get some tablets from him rolleyes.gif

I'd probably find his rod more useful!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 10:26:17 The 'feel good' factor's back. I can't honestly see us blowing this one. They will make it very difficult-that's for sure, but I predict an ultimately handsome victory, with goals from Spoonsy and Leafy.

Consolation goal to them near the end, but too late!!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 10:29:18
QUOTE(northseaton @ Feb 1 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]394550[/snapback]
Overall the team set up will look good for a mid-table finish come May. The whole spine of the team is populated with guys all well over 6 feet tall and will hopefully enable us to impose ourselves on the opposition. My one and only criticism of Morton teams in the past is that they were too lightweight.

I think the penny has dropped down Cappielow way and whilst I can understand the sentiment in giving the players who got us promoted the opportunity to compete against better players it has to some degree backfired. The latest signings will rectify this IMHO.

As for summer signings I would like to think we could attract a proven goal scorer , another centre half and recognised full backs. With recognised full backs this allows the manager to alter the formation to nulify a team with wingers as an example , putting a big lumbering centre half up against a decent winger only ever results in the defender being ripped apart.

Exactly, and I'd love to see one traditional winger in the squad-that would be an extra string to the bow.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 10:41:27
QUOTE(northseaton @ Feb 1 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]394558[/snapback]
I honestly think we will beat them this time , the same mistakes will not happen as last time when we stood of their sub and let him have 2 clear shots at goal , effectively game over.

The crowd can play a big part on saturday , there was next to no negativity from the travelling support at Palmerston and it certainly helps the players. I hope that with the significant investment by the board that the fans recognise what they are trying to achieve both on and off the park and give them the team there full backing for 90 mins.

The whole shed signing on Saturday will make one hell of a difference on Saturday and will only spur the players on. Keep the booing on saturday to when they read out the scores of the teams we don`t like rolleyes.gif

Queens will bring a good support and that hopefully will be the catalyst the Shed needs.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 10:43:36
QUOTE(Malt @ Feb 1 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]394555[/snapback]

'Morton have all players available for tomorrow's fifth round Scottish Cup match against St Johnstone at Cappielow'

Aye right-Jenkins included! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 10:45:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 1 2008, 10:43 AM) [snapback]394566[/snapback]
He doesn't do miracles laugh.gif

Certainly knew all about the burning bush!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 10:46:51
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 1 2008, 10:42 AM) [snapback]394565[/snapback]
He signed for QoS last night.

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mortonjag 2008-02-01 10:50:57
QUOTE(northseaton @ Feb 1 2008, 10:47 AM) [snapback]394571[/snapback]
Agreed and with their backing we can win this tie. If people only realise the revenue that the next round could bring , gate receipts , tv money potentially live televised game etc etc. This could then provide the funds for the players we would like to see arriving pre-season become a distinct possibility due to the revenue this cup run can generate.

Negativity does not help the players to perform...wake up (not the new signing) and smell the roses

Coffee will do me, but aye-an away tie against one of the OF-with the inevitable replay at Cappielow is a mouth watering prospect!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 10:54:31
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 1 2008, 10:36 AM) [snapback]394559[/snapback]
I'm talking about Pascal's wager about belief or non-belief in the Christian God. Whatever, I think it's pointless arguing about whether God exists or doesn't. Faith is above and beyond reason (and wagers) I reckon. My atheism is just as much a belief as another's theism. There are great stories, prose and poetry in the Bible though, at least in the Authorised Version that I was familiar with. I haven't yet found any similar joy in an atheist treatise. Dawkins latest is dull in the extreme.

Fairy Nuff.

I'm very fond of the 23rd psalm myself David!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 10:56:16
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Feb 1 2008, 10:41 AM) [snapback]394562[/snapback]
TiD, Ihad the mornng off today, so i had a quick look at your sums. and have realised that x to the power of n plus y to the power n equals
crocodiles

Remember the man from Bengal who had the hexagonal ball?

The molecular weight of his Willy-times eight
was half the square root of


f*** ALL.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 11:09:58
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Feb 1 2008, 11:04 AM) [snapback]394576[/snapback]
Cant really say tbh wink.gif

You and your black secrets!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 11:27:37
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 1 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]394577[/snapback]
......And the man from Madras
whose bollocks were made out of brass
when they clanged together
they played 'stormy weather'
and lightning shot out of his ass.

Another variety of Indian balls.

And the sweet little angel from Thrace who could no longer fasten her stays, and whose Mother said 'Nelly , there's more in that belly than ever got in through your face'.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 11:40:06
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 1 2008, 11:36 AM) [snapback]394595[/snapback]
My dear departed Mammy was a member of the East Kirk, just down the road in Regent Street, until they knocked it down to build sheltered housing. When places of quiet contemplation like that unfortunately become surplus to society's requirements, they are better knocked down I think, rather than converted into carpet warehouses or even worse, nightclubs.

Or converted into flats in Pollokshaws Road? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 11:41:56
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 1 2008, 11:40 AM) [snapback]394597[/snapback]
He's alive and well and still doing the Lord's work Geordie ! He is now a published author - if you google for his name and "keep it cheery" you'll get there - his son Scott is now a minister in the Navy, and his two daughters are doing swimmingly. Keep It Cheery is at times a laugh out loud book - he has another published and just got word before Christmas that his new novel had also been accepted for publication.

His no-pressure approach to Christianity, his innate sense of humour, his energy to the Church and his joie de vivre had a marked impact on my life - along with a certain Auntie Maureen (well she was my girlfriends Auntie but I'm claiming her for my own) who taught me far more about being a good person than she will ever know.

TonInDublin

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mortonjag 2008-02-01 11:46:48
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 1 2008, 11:45 AM) [snapback]394602[/snapback]
Only you MJ, only you !!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Didn't even notice that. For the record, keel-hauling has been illegal for hundreds of years so trust me they are doing very well for themselves !

TonInDublin

Wasn't quite sure if it was intentional or not! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 11:49:15
QUOTE(El gofer @ Feb 1 2008, 11:43 AM) [snapback]394599[/snapback]
We have mellowed and you seem less cantankerous!!

Things can change though.........!

I remember Jimmy Simpson's testimonial. It was a league select playing in morton strips against Rangers with Butcher Woods McCoist etc. Jim Leighton was in goal for the Ton. Robertson nearly broke the Sinclair Street cross bar with a volley from about 35 yards.

Different era I spose. You would not get the top players turning out for a friendly on a sunday now.

Too busy poncing around the fashionable shopping malls with their WAGS!! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 13:42:15 laugh.gif
It never fails to amuse me when folks start those debates and then resort to spewing back what they've read in books.

No harm in reading if you can be arsed, but I prefer to think for myself.

You said,

'There is no "debate" between evolution and God because one is a matter of reason and observation and the other is of faith and metaphysics.'

That surely depends ultimately on your definition of 'God', and your perception of the finite versus the infinite.

When 'reason and observation' can explain to me what came before the 'beginning of everything' I'll call that unreasonable, or perhaps 'God'.

Reason and observation are limited by available information. Maybe it requires a broader, and not a narrower intellect to embrace the possibilityof a power higher than anything so far defined in our little universe.

For the time being I remain an uninformed agnostic! wink.gif

mortonjag 2008-02-01 13:56:49
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 1 2008, 12:42 PM) [snapback]394623[/snapback]
Better than being written in Jagesque (s***e)

That's where you are wrong my child. The Jag has a University degree in English. Mind you, it comes as no surprise that YOU prefer the stilted offerings of the Shooglemeister.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 14:02:05
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 1 2008, 01:14 PM) [snapback]394635[/snapback]
The thought of us having a chance at the semi's (mortonjag especially, wonder when the last time he saw a semi was laugh.gif) is enough for everyone to get behind the team. If we don't do it, so be it...league duty ressumes the following week.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Now that WAS funnny Puggs.

Nice to see you manage it once in a while too! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 14:07:23
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 1 2008, 12:04 PM) [snapback]394607[/snapback]
Common sense is a social construct, though, otherwise it would just be "sense." Common is supposed to indicate that it is widespread or universal but instead it just displays popular sanction.

I'm not really a relativist but common sense is a dodgy concept.

Possibly no two people have an identical perception of the definition of 'common sense', but the term is used meaningfully throughout the English speaking world. That's enough for me.

Common sense, in fact.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 14:09:36
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 1 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]394637[/snapback]
I still fail to see it.

I get the feeling your attempting to make something out of nothing due to a word I used, one which I have still heard recently in American news reports.

I will not raise it it, have to do better wink.gif

Generation gap perhaps-maybe the connotation I have for 'retarded' has become effete.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 14:10:13
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Feb 1 2008, 01:14 PM) [snapback]394633[/snapback]
What's the weather like down Greenock way?
I've had some blizzards up here in Lossiemouth and have heard that the A9 has been closed! ohmy.gif sad.gif
Will the game defo be on??????

Noticed Motherwell game has been postponed again!!

Thanks Brookes!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 14:11:23 Not forecast to go below freezing overnight. We should be OK with the covers.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 14:13:14 The great thing is that he now has options up front. I'd put Khali on from the start to soften them up, and play it by ear after that.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 14:15:07
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 1 2008, 01:44 PM) [snapback]394654[/snapback]
Why not go for it , It can all add to the atmosphere

I had 3 Beachballs at Firpark last year no-one said anything to me

That had f*ck all to do with the beachballs.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 14:16:58
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 1 2008, 01:47 PM) [snapback]394655[/snapback]
Im sure when Dougie offered Jim the job he didnt say "OK Jim now I am going to give your team talks , sign your players , and not let you have any say on signings "

Thats why he didnt stay in his previous job

What was Shoogly's last paid employment?
mortonjag 2008-02-01 14:22:35
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 1 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]394663[/snapback]
... but even if that's true, doesn't it also therefore leave the door open to the possibility that a 'greater power' created the conditions that would allow life to then evolve independently.

Maybe we're just part of some weird experiment. smile.gif

...FFS of course we are, but I think Mr Rae is learning!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 14:28:50
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Feb 1 2008, 02:01 PM) [snapback]394659[/snapback]
If I'm McInally, I'm telling my defenders to put Dobbie up in the air sharpish. It's times like this that a Scott Bannerman/Dean Keenan comes in handy...

Aye-every good side needs its clugger.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 14:33:15
QUOTE(GMC @ Feb 1 2008, 02:27 PM) [snapback]394680[/snapback]
Point being that if a balloon can affect a game so much, then so can a beachball. huh.gif

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I must learn to behave-sorry Mr Rae.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 14:37:51
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 1 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]394682[/snapback]
So says his apostate in chief.

I agree I renounced Shooglyism a long time ago DE, but the old codger f*cked off to some sweetie wives' convention for the last few days of the signing window remaining open.

For me that's a step in the right direction.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 14:41:27
QUOTE(Malt @ Feb 1 2008, 02:37 PM) [snapback]394687[/snapback]
Jim would have been a fool if he didn't research the position. He could have spoken to Millar and former players which he knew and gained some insight.

We can't say it is all Rae's fault, yet I do believe he does make some poor decisions but McInally has made some terrible signings and made some poor decisions which question his capabilities as a manager.

Are you saying that he DID research the position?
mortonjag 2008-02-01 15:14:11
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 1 2008, 02:59 PM) [snapback]394692[/snapback]
Yes, damn those book-learnins! mad.gif
I think that all depends on what your definition of "is" is.

Many aspects of reason aren't limited by the available information.

I'm not willing to get into a discussion about who is intellectually superior, fish somewhere else.

I wasn't fishing -wasn't even looking for a debate nacho-just putting my point. ohmy.gif

Which aspects of 'reason' do you feel are not confined to available fact?
mortonjag 2008-02-01 15:18:06
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 1 2008, 02:53 PM) [snapback]394691[/snapback]
Care to explain ?

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mortonjag 2008-02-01 15:22:54
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 1 2008, 03:10 PM) [snapback]394702[/snapback]
Yes, but it's how it's meaningfully used that counts. I'm not disputing that it's not a concept that exists and has a meaningful use. I'm debating whether or not it is used to denote things that are sensible, if not common.

I just see it quite simply as an identical or very similar sensory perception by the majority.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 15:26:53
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 1 2008, 03:18 PM) [snapback]394709[/snapback]
tongue.gif It's OK, I've left a box propped up by a stick with a Snickers under it... I'll find out tonight if that pink elephant's real.
Maths? Although I suppose if you want to be absolutely anal about it you need to know what two is before you can add 2+2 tongue.gif

'Fraid you've confused me-and I'm useless at maths-I really don't understand what you mean. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 15:30:32
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 1 2008, 03:26 PM) [snapback]394718[/snapback]
It can be sensory in a very loose sense, though. It was once common sense that the sun orbited the earth, which may have appeared true, but *serious* empirical investigation showed that the opposite was the case.

In that sense, it's a social construct and not always a reliable one.

That's not to say that if 100 people came up to me and told me that I smelled bad - hypothetically, of course! - I wouldn't go for a quick shower.

It was NEVER common sense that the sun orbited the earth-surely they thought it stopped at one side and reappeared at the other twelve hours later! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 15:31:18
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 1 2008, 03:17 PM) [snapback]394707[/snapback]
Keep the covers on Crawford.

What's the son done wrong?
mortonjag 2008-02-01 15:33:01 The BBC Weather centre still has the minimum overnight temperature in Greenock at +4.

The game will be on.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 15:38:17
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 1 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]394722[/snapback]
laugh.gif Yeah, true, and some dude was pulling it on a wee chariot.

That would be the Greek sun god I imagine-Asbestos.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 15:39:57
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Feb 1 2008, 03:21 PM) [snapback]394715[/snapback]
I really feel that Monday night was the start of something, McAlister and Spoons were fantastic and big Greacen and Harding were immense at the back! Beating Queens would also make up for our last home game two weeks back in the league against them. We can do it, and convincingly!

One of the top Premier clubs at home in the quarters would be fantastic. Really feel that these new signings are going to see us moving up to the mid-table finish many of us wanted at the start of the season too!

Tuesday morning?
mortonjag 2008-02-01 15:41:52
QUOTE(centralTON @ Feb 1 2008, 03:21 PM) [snapback]394713[/snapback]
That sounds like a Morrisey lyric. wink.gif

When she is gone I'm feelin' blue
The lady in the Ton tutu...


next... laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 15:44:35
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 1 2008, 03:03 PM) [snapback]394696[/snapback]
He definately spoke to Cowboy before taking the job, who gave him a glowing report on the club and chairman!

That was ultimately more effective than fillin' him full of lead!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 15:46:50
QUOTE(Kekkoman @ Feb 1 2008, 03:11 PM) [snapback]394703[/snapback]
At least he realised they were not going to be good enough. Would you have preferred that he kept them? He robably got rid of them to free up wages for the likes of Mcguffie and Jenkins. Lets see how the rest of the season pans out then see what your opinion is.

If at the end of the season we are still in a poor position i will hold my hands up and admit i was wrong. I dont think you will ever give JM the chance and even when he proves you wrong you wont be big enough to admit it.

Morton will go on from now and turn our season around. a couple of wins and we're right back up the table. Clyde have def been weakened and we have been vastly strengthened. Think about what your sayin before you dig yourself into a hole.

I ask again will yoo come out and say your were wrong if JM turns it round?

What JM has done to date is on record. If he 'turns it round' he will surely get full credit. I believe he's had much more personal input in the last wee while, and time will tell.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 15:49:53
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 1 2008, 03:47 PM) [snapback]394731[/snapback]
2+2 will always be 4 regardless of any sensory input. It's something that a brain in a jar could come up with.

Aye but will two big boys and two wee boys be four medium sized ones-see I told you I just don't get maths!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 15:57:16 I once met Noel Edmonds at the old Ingliston race course-he used to race saloon cars-and he came over as a very 'off beat' chap, but quite pleasant.

I don't know if Jeremy Beadle ever raced saloon cars.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 16:03:08
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 1 2008, 03:59 PM) [snapback]394739[/snapback]
All boys, regardless of their size, deserve a chance at this level.

..but not at basketball.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 16:04:23
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 1 2008, 04:02 PM) [snapback]394740[/snapback]
It was nice to pump Gretna, but they're gonnae bloody beat us again dry.gif

mad.gif

You are breaking today's rules.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 16:10:29
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 1 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]394747[/snapback]
Is that punishable by a fine, or shall I be booted oot the thread?

Neither!

Just be happy-tomorow is our day-the feel good factor's back-the Shed will be in fine form.

This the Monkey has decreed, so let's enjoy it while we can!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 16:23:29
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 1 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]394751[/snapback]
I can see the mood being deflated very early on - and more noticable silence from the 'noisy ones'.
How do I know this, you ask?

I'm going tomorrow, and we always get stuffed when I go. I haven't seen us win since Partick or Buckie (whichever was the more recent). I was unlucky enough to miss the Gretna game at Palmerston after enduring more pish at Dunfermline, and lo and behold, we give them a nice big shafting smile.gif

So, I predict that my presence will influence the game tomorrow and, ultimately, this much anticipated fixture will fall flat on its face. Much to the delight of QoS.

What goes round comes round my boy-ask any ice cream man. Tomorrow is your lucky day.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 16:29:08
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 1 2008, 04:24 PM) [snapback]394757[/snapback]
Good idea!

Although I have the wee fud on ignore, people still quote his posts so I have no option but to read his inane self absorbed drivel and his condescending, playground style insults and name calling.

The little creep of man is a walking inferiority complex and with 40 posts a day he single-handedly ruins this message board for me.
So, if you could somehow allow the ignored users to remain†ignored†even when in the quote box that would great thanks.

Any further request your Majesty? wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 17:27:12
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 1 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]394760[/snapback]
So do any of our homosexual fans find him attractive ?

I'd imagine so-he's quite a hunk, wouldn't you say!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 17:35:23 I wasn't hugely unhappy with the squad before the window opened-only with the fact that they were consistently underperforming on the pitch, and I believe the new signings (particularly Jenkins and Smith) will have a beneficial effect. I'm talking in terms of remaining comfortably in Division 1. SPL challenge-that's different.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 17:41:11
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 1 2008, 05:36 PM) [snapback]394813[/snapback]
Don't you think that if you're going to have an opinion on something it's better to have an informed one?

Of course-where's the contradiction-I didn't say folk shouldn't read books, and then form their OWN 'informed' opinions.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 17:52:49
QUOTE(Kaney @ Feb 1 2008, 05:42 PM) [snapback]394816[/snapback]
Why are you using this forum? Are you a Morton supporter?

?

All you seem to do is bitch and moan about everything you possibly can.
I mean seriously...

The Morton website is updated with latest signings, and all you can think to do is to start a new topic, and have a moan about how it wasnt a big enough of a welcome...?
You're f*cking shocking mate. You need to get a grip.

'Out of the mouths of babes and sucklings' eh!


Do you know the expression 'tongue in cheek' son?

Have you read the posts I've made today?

Seems to me that guys who haven't an original idea in their heads can always jump on the 'bash the Jag' wagon.

Anyway, it's rewarding to know I'm providing some relief therapy for the angst stricken.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 17:57:29
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 1 2008, 05:48 PM) [snapback]394818[/snapback]
I concur.

My own personal view is that it's not entirely implausible that some kind of higher intelligence may have created 'life' or the conditions for life to evolve by itself. I think it's highly unlikely though.

But even if that is the case then I don't think it's the 'God' in the way He's portrayed by all major religions. For example, I believe Heaven and Hell were made up by well intentioned humans who just wanted us to be nice to each other.

Having said all that, I'm fairly sure I'll be begging for forgiveness on my deathbed... just in case, like. smile.gif

No deathbeds for those whom God knocks down in the big red bus!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 18:14:22
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 1 2008, 06:11 PM) [snapback]394827[/snapback]
the thinking that you are a tosser cuts across all divides, matey. original thinkers, sheep, goths, metalheads, old farts, terrace dandies, ravers, english eccentrics, neds, wise old men, working class heroes, f***tards, daft wee girls, s***kickers, dweebs, jews, australian aboriginals, astronauts, athenian philosophers. just a few examples of people who think you're a dick, or no doubt would if they had the misfortune to listen to your tedious drivel dripping with self-regard.

if you got any further up your own arse you'd be a mathematical puzzle.

Well thank you kind Sir!



Feel better now? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 18:18:22
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 1 2008, 06:15 PM) [snapback]394829[/snapback]
That was quite a trick with the red sea though, better than Paul Daniels.......but not a lot.

C
mortonjag 2008-02-02 07:35:08
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 1 2008, 10:19 PM) [snapback]394988[/snapback]
back on to the common sense thread then, amongst the flurry of tail feathers, would some one like to define what is meant by common sense, just so we're talking about the same thing?

you know what i mean - instinct vs social construct vs urban myth?

oh, and isn't that wakey chap cute?

Apparently not Trumpet! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-02 07:38:38
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 1 2008, 06:49 PM) [snapback]394861[/snapback]
speak for yourself tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-02-02 07:46:36
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 1 2008, 10:28 PM) [snapback]394997[/snapback]
That's a quality put down.

Also, MortonJag, it's an internet forum. No-one gives a flying fanny fart about grammar, punctuation and spelling on here. Yer English degree means heehaw.

Most degrees mean 'hee haw', as you put it, oh learned one. People with degrees occasionally find them advantageous though-in the job market for example.

I'd like to humbly make the observation that several educated gentlemen (I'd not dream of including myself), have highlighted Mr Rae's penchant for torturing his native tongue and readers in one fell swoop.
mortonjag 2008-02-02 07:51:54
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 1 2008, 07:28 PM) [snapback]394889[/snapback]
Peeling the tatties for lunch ? tongue.gif

Shouldn't that be 'Peelin' the totties for dinner'? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-02 07:55:25 About 3 cms of snow lying here. Traffic's flowing fine and pedestrians are walking about in normal footwear. Not exactly a blizzard. How's the 'Tail o' the bank?
mortonjag 2008-02-02 07:58:21
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 1 2008, 08:55 PM) [snapback]394933[/snapback]
but i always thought you were a dolt

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You'll surely tire of repeating that sooner or later Trumpet!
mortonjag 2008-02-02 08:03:06
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 1 2008, 09:52 PM) [snapback]394968[/snapback]
She's a girl.

Edit to add: CivictypeR that is, not Arthur Boric.

...and Artur's a big pole. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-02 08:04:39
QUOTE(CivicTypeR @ Feb 1 2008, 09:54 PM) [snapback]394971[/snapback]
love the way u corrected yourself there!! maybe i should put a post up in the general section to let ppl know im a girl LOL! stop any further confusion blink.gif

Just update your personal profile!!

BTW-Civic type R-dream or reality? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-02 08:06:32
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 1 2008, 11:54 PM) [snapback]395055[/snapback]
The penalty that never was against gretna has cost us dear!

Euphemism for Pishley b*****d f***s us yet again!
mortonjag 2008-02-02 08:13:01
QUOTE(McMenamie @ Feb 2 2008, 04:58 AM) [snapback]395150[/snapback]
My opinion on Morton just now.

1. In the cup the team fight for every ball ,we as fans get behind the team.

2.In the cup we have nuthing to loose so the team express their football.

3.In the cup there is no bad posts on here and we think last 8 is possible.

4.God support in the cup.

Thats the good.

1. In the league we get on players and managers case.

2..In the league the team dont want the ball and seem affraid to make mistakes as we as fans are all frustrated and on their backs.

3.In the league just now we dont look like we can survive the 1st div.

4.Poor support in the league

My point is if we get behind the team just now in all games not just the cup we can survive this div.
We can pay and have the right to an opinion but try keeping it till end of season or our team might go down.

We should all be having a word with God!
mortonjag 2008-02-02 08:14:31
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Feb 1 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]394983[/snapback]
Russell isn't suspended, but I still don't think he'll start. Don't think McGregor will start either TBH.

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mortonjag 2008-02-02 08:21:15
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Feb 1 2008, 10:04 PM) [snapback]394979[/snapback]
Eh?? He's gash! I don't think we'll be seeing much more of Kieran, or Jamie for that matter.

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mortonjag 2008-02-02 08:22:37
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 2 2008, 03:48 AM) [snapback]395145[/snapback]
Red sea, I see. Let's see how you do a burning bush.

Fireball the White House.
mortonjag 2008-02-02 08:27:27
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 1 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]394834[/snapback]
degree in English eh?

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mortonjag 2008-02-02 08:31:01
QUOTE(leyTON @ Feb 1 2008, 11:56 PM) [snapback]395059[/snapback]
did i not outline before my reasons for saying this?
calling me a c*** wow thats you got the argument wrapped up there
your right im a real glass half empty idior amnt i?
3rd bottom with clyde closing in and an inept manager - what am i thinking?

I think you're correct about JM, but what he's been unable to do may now come in the form of motivation on the pitch from his new signings.
mortonjag 2008-02-02 08:36:42
QUOTE(CivicTypeR @ Feb 1 2008, 10:04 PM) [snapback]394978[/snapback]
awwwwwwwwwww wee hurt feeling in ther?

hope this games on tomorrow - its freezing out tae

....and we can't even say 'Well pit it back in ya daftie'!
mortonjag 2008-02-02 08:41:15
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 1 2008, 07:17 PM) [snapback]394880[/snapback]
Phew, that's all right then.

Buses here are yellow. unsure.gif

laugh.gif

Then you may have a wee chance of spotting that big red one in time!
mortonjag 2008-02-02 08:48:07
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 1 2008, 10:19 PM) [snapback]394989[/snapback]
Jesus Christ mate who shat on your cornflakes? Debate finished? How can a debate ever be finished when reason is up against blind faith? Where did I say god didn't exist? And, for my money, yes everyone who isn't an evolutionist is wrong. But if you think otherwise then you sit happy in yer wee world. Please, also, point out the statistic I made up.
Do me a favour. Stop talking absolute pish and bringing up nonsense like this which has hee-haw to do with the thread at hand in order to make yourself look all intelligent.
How far do you wanna take it? To the first mammals, reptiles, amphibians, fish, worms, bacteria? The theorised line of evolution is pretty easy to find.

Any half educated tw*t can regurgitate stuff he's read, and you have the impertinence to accuse TiD of 'trying to make himself look intelligent'.

For what it's worth son, I guess I was much the same as you before I discovered the refreshing vistas which open for those who take nothing at face value, and always think for themselves.
mortonjag 2008-02-02 08:59:15
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 1 2008, 11:10 PM) [snapback]395017[/snapback]
sometimes the ceaseless chatter of people gets me down but i am aware that social chatter spreads knowledge and partly explains our success as a species.

to tid and others who have given their faith a thought i would say that i was lost a while ago and found science. i know that my finding science could easily be compared with someone else finding religion, although i am aware of the difference in thought processes. the reason i could never accept religion, despite trying very hard for a long time, was that my sense of reason refused to accept it. after some study i now have some idea of the scale of the universe and it has given me an intense sense of awe that the stories i have read in religious texts could never come close to engendering. when i look up i see things that i know my mind cannot fully grasp, but at the same time i am content that i am an integral part of this infinite beauty and complexity, and when my mind ends my constituent parts will continue until the end of time. maybe if i am lucky it will turn out that my mind will live on in some form and i will continue to learn more. i doubt this, but i don't feel diminished by my doubt.

i respect anyone who makes an effort to understand, even if i personally believe their beliefs to be misguided. i think that the effort to understand in itself improves the individual and makes them worth sharing a beer with.

phew. that's the serious post over with for another year

I'd prefer that beer bacteriologically checked first.
mortonjag 2008-02-02 09:03:23
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 1 2008, 11:35 PM) [snapback]395037[/snapback]
not yet. i only mentioned the nappies because i bought them early. the foetus is due to become a person in may.

hard to concentrate when the neighbours are having a good ole-fashioned mano a mujer wrestling match. what are we talking about?

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mortonjag 2008-02-02 09:17:47
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 2 2008, 08:59 AM) [snapback]395195[/snapback]
It means heehaw on here. A misspelled word or bad piece of punctuation will not diminish someone's post in any way. It merely gives you more fodder to annoy us.



For those who are educated, posts are most certainly diminished by poor construction-that is not to say that the poster is diminished.

Who, by the way, are 'yous'?
mortonjag 2008-02-02 09:20:50
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Feb 2 2008, 09:13 AM) [snapback]395202[/snapback]
i think people are concentrating too much on whether the game might be on or off due to the state of the pitch. Although its called a pitch inspection there are several other factors taken into account, the safety of fans travelling to and from the game is also a major factor in the descision. personally i think the state of the roads between greenock and dumfries for the qos fans travelling home will be the deciding factor.

Are you serious?

We have the home advantage, and if the pitch is playable it should be game on.
mortonjag 2008-02-02 09:21:55
QUOTE(Mr.Kennedy @ Feb 2 2008, 09:21 AM) [snapback]395212[/snapback]
Will that only be a factor once they arrive in Greenock? rolleyes.gif

Please squash that beast!
mortonjag 2008-02-02 09:25:36
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 2 2008, 09:21 AM) [snapback]395213[/snapback]
The people who get annoyed by your pedantry and constant ability to switch anything that happens, anywhere, into a dig at Dougie Rae.

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The Shooglyphiles!
mortonjag 2008-02-02 09:32:45
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 2 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]395206[/snapback]
Crocodiles are thin on the ground in Greenock mate. If I see one I'll be sure to ask.

Although if I remember correctly The Bible's the only place I've read about talking serpents. Generally because they don't exist and that things just chock-full of fairy stories.

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The Bible may be interpreted to ones taste-many folk worldwide seem to derive strength and courage from its contents-even if it's also full of 'fairy stories' as you describe them.

Now back to your crocs and snakes in Greenock-why do you claim they are 'thin on the ground' just because YOU haven't seen many?

Plenty of reptiles around Sinclair St. over the years.
mortonjag 2008-02-02 09:35:10
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Feb 2 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]395220[/snapback]
with the covers been on dont you think using an orange ball is a bit ott

Maybe a green and white one would suffice.
mortonjag 2008-02-02 09:38:19
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 2 2008, 09:28 AM) [snapback]395218[/snapback]
Add in the fact that anyone who disagrees with any point you make instantly has their tongue right up Dougie Rae's arsehole according to you. We all know the guy makes mistakes but, despite having all the answers, you are not blessed with foresight into the future. Dougie might be making mistakes but you cannot claim that whoever comes in will not make the same ones or worse.

And constantly calling him Shoogly is particularly annoying.

I know-that's why I do it!


BTW the wee highlighted bit is an example of something which annoys me.


mortonjag 2008-02-02 09:39:46
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Feb 2 2008, 09:38 AM) [snapback]395224[/snapback]
OFF.....red card for that one....
Oh aye...never eat yellow snow!!!!

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mortonjag 2008-02-02 09:45:36 The signing of Allan Jenkins yesterday was the last of four new faces to join the Club during the window, the others being Ryan McGuffie, Barry Smith and Brian Wake.

Manager Jim McInally said "We are delighted that we have finally got Allan joining us. It has been common knowledge that we have been looking to strengthen up the middle of the park and Allan and Ryan (McGuffie) will be a big presence for us there. With Barry Smith at the back and Brian Wake up front, it gives us a decent squad."

Chris Millar will be staying at Cappielow until the end of the season. McInally explained "I had spoken to the players' agent last week and he told me that St Johnstone would not be paying the fee we had asked for. With this in mind, I had to make our signing plans with Chris in the squad. On Wednesday afternoon, St Johnstone made the offer we had asked for, but after speaking to Martin Clark, we agreed that we were not in a position to replace him before the window closed - it was too short notice. We have spoken to Chris, and he has pledged to continue to give 100% while he is still a Morton player."

The window has seen some departures from the Club as well - Michael Gardyne (to Ross County), Chris Templeman and Bobby Linn (East Fife) and Jay Shields (Cowdenbeath). Dean Keenan and Alan Gilbride are on loan to Ayr United and Stenhousemuir respectively until the end of the season.


Full credit for an informative and up to date report.
mortonjag 2008-02-02 09:48:39
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Feb 2 2008, 09:47 AM) [snapback]395234[/snapback]
well done MJ, you can use copy and paste tongue.gif

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I'm good at hanging wallpaper too.
mortonjag 2008-02-02 09:51:49
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Feb 2 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]395240[/snapback]
i had a pal called wallpaper....

always hanging about and stripping when drunk....ie wallpaper

Was he not Sledge's mate-yon guy who was always getting pulled by dogs?
mortonjag 2008-02-02 10:02:45
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Feb 2 2008, 09:59 AM) [snapback]395258[/snapback]
about 20 mins......they check weather condition predictions and also road conditions for fans...then the pitch!!

I don't get it-do they check road conditions for fans travelling from, say, Aberdeen to Glasgow for an OF tie when the pitches are clearly not in danger but it's snowy up north? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-02 10:04:25
QUOTE(tondaft @ Feb 2 2008, 09:59 AM) [snapback]395256[/snapback]
thankyou, someone who agrees. dont agree about stevenson though

Why?
mortonjag 2008-02-02 10:05:37
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Feb 2 2008, 10:04 AM) [snapback]395262[/snapback]
it depends...local road conditions are a major factor as well......

also the terrecing underfoot is checked as well in case it is dangerously icy

The snow's all but gone up here and trafffic's flowing freely.
mortonjag 2008-02-02 10:14:59
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Feb 2 2008, 10:12 AM) [snapback]395278[/snapback]
Just noticed this on the board...

there is a lot to be said for numbers!!!!!
mortonjag 666 Today, 09:38 AM
Last post by: mortonjag

666 predicts ---game on!
mortonjag 2008-02-02 10:19:30
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 2 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]395285[/snapback]
Live from Cappielow Park....
Ref says pitch is playable BUT he is woried abut away fans travelling to the game

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mortonjag 2008-02-02 10:21:40
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 2 2008, 10:19 AM) [snapback]395292[/snapback]
Its our home game. people setting out from Dumfries know what the weather is like!

Home advantage-used to be called luck of the draw-if this is called off to accommodate Queens I'll be f*cking fuming after driving to Palmerston in torrential rain on Monday when the game should have been at Motherwell.
mortonjag 2008-02-02 10:25:58
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Feb 2 2008, 10:24 AM) [snapback]395299[/snapback]
The game is ON

Care to expand?
mortonjag 2008-02-02 10:27:36
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Feb 2 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]395304[/snapback]
Whats to expand? QoS site says pitch inspection ok 3pm Kick off

FFS how do they know first?
mortonjag 2008-02-02 10:29:49
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Feb 2 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]395305[/snapback]
Game is defo on!!!!!

ref arrived at cappielow with the intention of calling the game off.
Arrived with no gear and now has to drive 45 mins back home to get his stuff.
park is like a bowling green.

A big well done to mark farrell for his efforts and also a big thanks to all the guys who went down to take the covers off the park at short notice

I THANK YOU!!!

'I did my best Gordon, but you'll have to try different ploys to get your summer football up and running'. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-02 10:48:47 So what's the score with the Ref? It's Charlie Richmond, I believe. Where does he live, and WHY did he arrive unprepared and expecting to call the game off. Every time there's been a cry for summer football, the SFA have said 'f*ck off'.

Now when Mark Farell and his team have worked wonders to have a pitch in good playable condition at the very worst time of the year, he comes EXPECTING to call the game off. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-02 11:00:25
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 2 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]395318[/snapback]
Why the f*** are you so obsessed with the crocodiles?

I put my faith in reason and evidence. Of which there is, to put it in Layman's terms, lots.

You seem to have no idea of the evidence for all of this. Now seeing as you told me to school up on my bible why don't you do the same on your science. Whereas you appear to only have one reference for your delusions, the King James Bible, I've used my short life to read up on a number of scientific texts. Seeing you seem to want the answers for the creation of the universe, the creation of life and evolution, amongst others, A Short History Of Nearly Everything (ISBN: 0-7679-0817-1) covers all that in easy to understand language. However when I tried to explain a tiny part of the evolutionary theory in a short handed way rather than go into depth on gene mutations and fossil records you jumped down my throat I'd assume you'll explode with rage at Bryson's clever little similes and metaphors.

As for the big bang and how something can come from "nothing" then the most obvious place to start would be Hawkin's (ISBN-10: 0553804367) A Briefer History of Time.

For evolution you can pretty much ignore Darwin's Origin of Species as the whole theory has been improved on and added to many times since then. The Blind Watchmaker (ISBN 0-393-31570-3), although slightly dated, is still my favourite book on the theory and the documentary, also by Dawkins, is available on Google Video.

So I aint gonna sit here and explain these three enormous scientific theories for your benefit so you can sit there in the hope my summing up will have glaring omissions or schoolboy errors just so you can pick up on them and then make another comment about me wanking into a sock. If it really interests you then you can post back in a week or so when you've read those texts. If it doesn't then I await another hilarious aside about some friction between my hand and c***.

That's all they are son-THEORIES-but your puerile mind has gobbled them up as though they were proven fact.


1st corinthians 13:12

King James Bible
For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. wink.gif



mortonjag 2008-02-02 11:02:21
QUOTE(ayrstorm @ Feb 2 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]395330[/snapback]
he'll be working the system
a payment plus petrol money to do the inspection
home for 1hr in front of the telly
then more petrol money and a match fee for doing the game wink.gif
so two sets of petrol money for him today

That sounds entirely plausible.
mortonjag 2008-02-02 11:03:34
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 2 2008, 10:59 AM) [snapback]395332[/snapback]
If he's came over wanting to call it off for a day off he's a p***k

If he's just trying to get a few extra bob petrol money.... well done. Petrol is expensive smile.gif

Aye-and it's the fans who ultimately pay for it! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-02 11:05:03
QUOTE(Mr.Kennedy @ Feb 2 2008, 10:48 AM) [snapback]395328[/snapback]
If the team can make it to the game unscathed, I don't see why the fans can't. Shouldn't be any concern about that.

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I can't f*ckin' win Kennedy-now the Monkey's girning about 'wanting that wee beast back'!
mortonjag 2008-02-02 11:07:59
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 2 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]395334[/snapback]
Gravity is just a theory as well MJ. But, like gravity, evolution has been proven beyond all reasonable doubt.

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Sorry!
mortonjag 2008-02-02 11:12:36 Chinook!


Now raining lightly in the big smoke and snow's gone.
mortonjag 2008-02-02 11:16:34
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 2 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]395342[/snapback]
You know. Newton's theory of gravity. Gravitational theory.

Although gravitational theory is different from "gravity" it is still a theory.

I could swear you said 'Gravity is a theory'.

Perhaps you can now see how proper use of your native tongue can avoid confusion.

Why does the fact that Newton's theory has been proven make the proof of those evolutionary theories you mention any more likely?
mortonjag 2008-02-02 11:19:32
QUOTE(piehutt @ Feb 2 2008, 11:13 AM) [snapback]395344[/snapback]
What's with the '10 QoS fans' nonsence.

Qos will have more than 500 fans there, and closer to 1000!

Correct-the Doonhamers have a robust support at the moment-seems Gretna haven't done them any favours either!

I was in the home stand on Monday, and there were more curious Queens fans there than Bumpkins.
mortonjag 2008-02-02 11:22:00
QUOTE(kilbrideton @ Feb 2 2008, 11:17 AM) [snapback]395348[/snapback]
Heavy snow in Largs but not lying. Amazed this game is on! Well done Morton! Wifes just asked me not to come home drunk!

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Asked!!!!!
mortonjag 2008-02-02 11:29:49
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Feb 2 2008, 11:24 AM) [snapback]395356[/snapback]
on bible quotations: -

"The Queen of the South shall rise up in judgement of the men of this generation, and condemn them" Luke 13:11

Just hope it's not today that she rises...

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Aye but she was well shafted by Solomon McInally!
mortonjag 2008-02-03 08:54:38
QUOTE(stubaws @ Feb 2 2008, 12:37 PM) [snapback]395431[/snapback]
whats that? hitting s***ty set pieces and letting his head go down at the slightest thing?!?! talented player but unbelievably fragile confidence!

i think that mcanespie always looked better in the middle of the park, he was the only midfielder who demanded the ball from the defenders and always looked for a pass rather than a hopeful punt. in saying that he was pish in his last few games before getting dropped. still think he's a player who could be good for us though

NOT at Alloa-quite the opposite, so explain why this has happened.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 09:15:55
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 2 2008, 05:51 PM) [snapback]395542[/snapback]
It's very unusual for me to suggest that a player isn't trying, but if that's Ryan McGuffie at full pelt I'd hate to see him when he isn't. He is a hider and a chancer, based on what I've seen so far, and if this is his attitude when playing for a relegation-threatened side he should get to f**k because it's not enough.

He's emblematic of the midfield as a whole, though - none of them look for the ball. (Many say that McLaughlin does, which may be true, but he's not good enough to do anything with it.

Wake had a hard time off that baldy defender who the referee let away with a lot - other than that the ref had a decent game, I thought - and he might do well against smaller CBs. I still don't see how he was a suitable signing, though - another panic acquisition from the people who brought us Gardyne and Coakley. One thing I will say in Wake's defence is that he did come and look for the ball quite a bit, hold it up and bring one of our (hitherto hiding) midfielders into play, but by the time he'd re-arrived in a striking position someone would have already hoofed a cross to the vacant far post.

Queens aren't a great side but they're better than us and deserved their win. While they're prone to errors almost to the same extent as we are, they seem much more able to recover, and to capitalise on those of the oppositions. That Morton are unable to do so is so deeply frustrating.

And piehutt McGurn was in no way to blame for the second goal, he was put in a near-impossible position by the clear and apparent failure of Greacen to send in the tackle. Greacen is bereft of confidence and won't stick the boot in, and it takes around 30 minutes before the opposition notice it. McInally should cotton on by 2014 or so.

GG: I think Smith was carrying a knock ,at least that's what it looked like as he jogged off.

Agree about Stevenson. Generally I think it's the case that what happens in the dressing room should stay in the dressing room but I think the fans are owed an explanation about the sketch with him. One of the few players in the side who can run at a packed defence remains on the bench when we're chasing a game when there are several ideal candidates to come off - it's jaw-dropping stuff. What is Jamie's deal? Why is he not involved more? And before anyone says "he was off form" - so's half the bloody team! Is there something else going on?

He was carrying a knock from Monday-if we had any strength in the squad defensive wise Barry would have been rested for this one. Instead we binned Sanny and signed somebody the Hamilton fans were happy to see go.

The signing window now looks like this


Smith-only on loan

McGuffie-hasn't kicked a ball except on Monday against his old buddies

'Super' Khali---even though the sight of him is something quite atrocious.

Jenkins, who if the past is anything to go on, will rapidly develop the footballing form of ME endemic at Cappielow.,

Who is the carrier of this rare and puzzling condition whose symptoms include confusion, lethargy, lack of animation, paranoia, and a striking lack of ability to make decisions?
mortonjag 2008-02-03 09:20:17 Gentlemen-stop being naughty-you will upset the Shooglyphiles.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 09:28:32
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 2 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]395804[/snapback]
I'll take charge of the team for next Saturday. I couldn't do any worse. In fact I'll play in place of Harding - I know when to hoof and when to pass and I don't give away unnecessary corners.

i've always been in favour of giving Jim NcInally time to get things sorted but it is apparent he hasn't a clue how to set out a team and what tactics to adopt. hoof it up the park doesn't work, but we always end up resorting to that, even when we have played a successful passing game for part of a match.

Clueless doesn't begin to describe him. FFS, why can't we get someone like Chisholm who has done a terrific job at Queens - although he was roundly hated by many Queens fans for the first half of this season and criticised for the same things as McInally.

Sorry Jim but I have lost patience. You just haven't got it.

Even if JM DID have it-was Sir Alex bloody Ferguson for that matter, he should be judged on his current ability to get the team performing. Those boys played OK on Monday, even if Gretna are no great shakes, yet EVERY SINGLE TIME the pressures on our lot-Play offs and away game to Raith when we won the title are only two examples-they collapse like a pile of cards.

That is ultimately down to the manager.

Yesterday was our last chance this season to claw back some credibility, and more importantly make some money.

Surely Rae must now also see it's TTG.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 09:29:54
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ Feb 2 2008, 10:32 PM) [snapback]395833[/snapback]
Prob the most talented player we have..

Mis-used and then ruined by the master tactician.

Another in a very long line to have the world at his feet and see it turn to a big ball of s*** the once we sign them.

JB.

That's the truth.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 09:36:16 JM's on borrowed time only because Rae is so f***in' full of himself he can't yet admit the mistake. Either that or he's too skint to pay him off. Either way the writing's on the wall now. No money from the Scottish Cup-that must be the last straw-SURELY?
mortonjag 2008-02-03 09:38:12
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 2 2008, 07:10 PM) [snapback]395655[/snapback]
Queens were the better team today. Their defence never really looked troubled and they caused problems for us regularly. They are, on current form, the best team in the league so maybe we should not read too much into losing to them.

We now need to concentrate on a minimum of 8th place and Clyde losing to Stirling helped a fair bit. We must win next week against Clyde and if we do maybe we can relax a bit and try and play some football. We will have Jenkins but if he is to be effective we have to learn to play the ball through midfield and not over the top of them.

We should be able to take points from Stirling and Clyde plus a few other teams n this league and thats what we have to do.

Lose next week and McInally has to go

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You've been a patient man!

Is that a promise?
mortonjag 2008-02-03 09:40:22
QUOTE(BluebirdTon @ Feb 2 2008, 07:22 PM) [snapback]395667[/snapback]
They were willing to fight for their place in the draw,we weren't.

Jim won't go until the summer,when its too late.Rae obviously hasn't acknowledged how long it took us to get back here and how frustrating it was.I presume he isn't bothered about relegation,the w*nker.



That's a very interesting question-and of course God never tells the scum fans what his plans really are.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 09:52:26 It wasn't Wake's performance which was that poor-I believe the boy probably showed us what he's capable of, so he shouldn't be faulted-may become a good squad player, but WTF was he the choice when we've been REDUCING the squad.

Truth is, as others have said, he was a last minute panic buy.


JM is quoted as saying he's 'wanted him for a while'.

Aye right.

I'll never forget his radio interview after we signed Gardyne, when he claimed he rated the boy highly, and had been raving about him to the Chairman who was 'delighted with the signing'. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-03 10:08:07
QUOTE(The Shuffler @ Feb 2 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]395614[/snapback]
In all my days of going to Cappielow im struggling to recall "a back four" ( & i use that term loosely), as bad as we have just now. No natural full backs, two centre halves who, in all honesty really are being found out in games, these two just aren't good enough. Devoid of leadership, organisation, & positional awareness, no consistency in their weekly performances, yet still they keep their places, granted Greacen was dropped for Smith for a whole two games but when he goes back to his employers in a few weeks we're back to square one.

The fact that McInally thinks the defence is "good enough" baffles me, the very fact that we didnt pursue any defenders during the window really concerns me, we are losing on average two goals a game, relegation material if this trend continues.

That was CRIMINAL dereliction of duty-JM appears to have learned nothing from previous mistakes, and constantly has seemed willing to 'make do' with players out of position all over the park.

Let's get something else straight once and for all-we DON'T use the wings. Neither McAlister nor Finlayson ever was, or ever will be a winger in the true sense of the word-good wingers put crosses over with the skill of an ace snooker player potting the black-but those two-it's a total hit or miss affair. On one occasion yesterday Jimbo made a good run to the bye line-for once everybody WAS up for the ball, and as I waited in anticipation he sent it nowhere. At least he's right footed, but Kev has less excuse-he's improved lately, but his crossing's still a lottery.

Before the usual culprits rush to their defence just because MJ has criticised, I rate both players VERY highy, but they are typical examples of JM's crass stupidity in not signing men for WHERE they play, but because he likes how they play.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 10:12:09
QUOTE(stuart @ Feb 2 2008, 06:13 PM) [snapback]395582[/snapback]
He played pretty well down in Dumfries v Gretna.

Thought he had turned a corner there.

Me too Stuart, and NOBODY please say McGuffie is not a good footballer, because, just like Jamie Stevenson, he is-but just like Jamie he's come to Cappielow, and caught that strange affliction which nobody can quite explain.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 10:15:22
QUOTE(tigerh @ Feb 2 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]395631[/snapback]
The problem with this guy is that he's been used to playing for managers who had an idea what they wanted him to do. The guy is completely lost - the game is going on around him. He hasn't a clue about what his role is -the same as the rest. Believe me we could have Pele , Best, Maradona at their best and they would be ineffective. What forward can play when the ball is launched at them in the air for 50 or 60 yards. We have no tactics not wrong ones ! WE lose shape and have everybody running around like headless chickens. The problem is not with the players its from the touch line with the manager. He is clueless and clearly has lost it. (How we managed to beat Gretna remains a mystery) Today we were back to the usual dross. There is no direction -no passion - no tactics -its not about the players efforts , its about their direction. They are not going out to deliberately play badly. The fact is they are confused and lost. This is the first time I've said this....but it is definitely time to go Jim. Your probably a nice guy who's been a smashing player and a good coach to kids but your found wanting with the big boys. Sadly your judgement ,motivational skills and tactical ineptitude is there for all sensible people to see.

Thanks and goodbye.

When the players are 'up for it' and take the game by the scruff of the neck as underdogs we get something from them. As you say, that motivation does NOT come from off pitch.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 10:21:20
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 2 2008, 07:45 PM) [snapback]395691[/snapback]
Started Queueing about quarter to three got in through the turnstile att the kick off . It was pretty badly organised today , I thought they should have held the kick off for at least 10 minutes . Heard all the shouts to get more gates open . Not exactly the way to get people to comeback .

I can't believe folk had to queue--FFS we only had 3500-this club seems a shambles in EVERY department apart from the ground staff.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 10:23:11
QUOTE(tondaft @ Feb 2 2008, 08:14 PM) [snapback]395714[/snapback]
totally agree he is a waste of space. a few times today one of the centre mids were making a break through the middle and any normal winger would run up the line and give the option to play the ball through but he didnt

That's the whole point-he is NOT a winger.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 10:37:20
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 2 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]395361[/snapback]
I would say that evolutionary theory has been proven too. How can it not? Where are the holes in this theory?

Evolution is a fact-there are countless examples of 'natural selection' in biology for example. Evolution is part of what's happening-it does not explain 'how it all started' if indeed it had to 'start' at all.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 11:07:53 I'm posing a serious question-the Chairman IS a very successful businessman in his own small field, yet we're losing money hand over fist. Surely he must secretly have been praying for a victory yesterday, and an away tie with one of the OF-that would have gone quite a way to balancing the books for the season, and we MIGHT rolleyes.gif just have pulled off a miracle and gone even further-stranger things have happened.

It's the morning after the night before, and Greenock Morton F C are not in pretty shape-the fans are baying like hounds for the departure of the manager, having seen his 'lucky bag' selection of misfits and panic buys easily muscled out of the cup by a team of competent and effective journeymen.

Surely on this 'Lord's Day' Mr Rae must be praying more earnestly than on many a previous for a saving miracle!

Surely reality must finally have dawned for a man who undoubtedly went into this starry eyed and with good intention.

The possibility of impending fiscal disaster must SURELY have crossed his mind.

There again, it may be that he has indeed lost that precious commodity-his marbles.

I certainly hope not, and my message to the Chairman is quite simple. The club's credibility is at a peep, and your failed manager is being allowed to take the flak as your human shield. Can you not see the conundrum there?

Act now-do whatever is required to turn things around and the fans will slowly start making their way back, and PLEASE be honest with us-we ARE supposed to be in this together.

mortonjag 2008-02-03 11:21:00
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 3 2008, 10:59 AM) [snapback]396023[/snapback]
Our best player by a f***ing mile and our ONLY attacking outlet in the second half.

Attitude was second to none.

I could single out several players yesterday but Kev certainly wasn't one of them.

Truth is that the stuff we've been playing for ages has been a tactical shambles. It seems that JM has an unsurpassed ability to ruin players confidence by using them like pieces on a chess board. I'd rarely have wanted Kev out of a starting eleven-IMHO if he was playing alongside a proper right winger he'd be twice as effective, but he's left to plough a lone furrow up the right-rarely gets support when he needs it, and virtually never sees anybody overlap when he tries to turn inside-the result is that he often ends up running out of options and wasting the final ball.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 11:23:23
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 3 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]396034[/snapback]
Just like every other chairman who had a club in the Scottish Cup this year outwith the SPL? Are they all losing their marbles too?

I haven't a clue, and don't give a f*ck.I'm a Morton supporter.

What are you BTW?
mortonjag 2008-02-03 11:38:49
QUOTE(neilly @ Feb 3 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]396052[/snapback]
well my dad was oin front of me in the queue...didnt give me the right to jump in front of everyone!!!

your apology is pathetic and im less annoyed about there being as many turnstiles being open as 1 arrogant person who thought they were better than easily 100 folk waiting to get in!!!!

Some folk might suggest that not being able to accept a GENUINE apology is immature.

The club ultimately caused the shambles.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 11:41:25
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 3 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]396056[/snapback]
f***ing amazing

Listen you puerile little apology for a gangrenous scrotum-I've started a serious thread-for once I'm NOT poking fun at the Chairman-you clearly haven't the wit to see that. Crawl back under the stone.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 11:43:19
QUOTE(neilly @ Feb 3 2008, 11:40 AM) [snapback]396058[/snapback]
no offence but im sure you would change your judgement had you been waiting in the rain and watch someone mock you as he swaggered in selfishly (prob having just come out the norseman aswell:P)

I'd have been f*ckin' ragin and probably set the Monkey on him, but he's apologised.

He didn't exactly murder DDFR! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-03 11:46:47
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 3 2008, 11:43 AM) [snapback]396061[/snapback]
Your thread title is "Has DDFR lost his marbles?"

Definately not poking fun at the chairman.. just questioning his sanity?

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Read the thread you clown. It's not a crime to ask serious questions about bizarre behaviour.

What's your opinion on the issue, or can you only regurgitate stuff you've read in big books? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-03 11:48:29
QUOTE(neilly @ Feb 3 2008, 11:45 AM) [snapback]396067[/snapback]
sorry can be a very easy and empty word!!!!

So you think he's not?
mortonjag 2008-02-03 11:59:04
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 3 2008, 11:49 AM) [snapback]396073[/snapback]
My opinion is Dougie Rae is giving McInally time to turn it round. Wrongly in my opinion but, as you're so keen to point out, we're all allowed one and unlike, you or I, it's Dougie Rae's money. The few bob we splash out on season books or paying in every week is miniscule compared to the money he's put in.

Precis-don't question the Chairman's authority! sad.gif

If I put all my money into a business I have to be accountable to various agencies, and risk being closed down if I don't conform.

Why do you imply that the Chairman has the right to do just as he pleases while saying you disagree with his behaviour?

He should be accountable to the fans. The highlighted comment is substantially inaccurate and demeaning of folk who yesterday shelled out their hard earned pennies after queuing needlessly at ancient turnstyles.

It's quite simple scrotum-no fans-no club-a kind of evolutionary process if you will.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 12:40:53
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 3 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]396084[/snapback]
When did I say we shouldn't question the chairman's decisions? If he feels McInally is the right man to take the club forward then that's his agenda. I think he's wrong, the majority on here think that as well, but he's quite within his rights to soldier on through.

I'll put it differently-if a man has such power, and if it is 'HIS AGENDA' to single handedly ruin the club he re-built, at what point, and how do the fans show they've had enough?
mortonjag 2008-02-03 12:45:13
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 3 2008, 11:31 AM) [snapback]396048[/snapback]
Yesterday I woulda slapped my own maw to have McAnespie or Stevenson on. Christ knows how many free kicks and corners were floated in by McLaughlin when someone with a decent delivery woulda really put Queens under pressure. Five big guys to aim at and every one hung up for Jim Thompson to deal with.

McAnespie was another 'fudge' during the previous transfer window. IMO he hasn't played a decent game for us. Agreed he can hit a good 'dead ball', but Scott's work rate (and he's far from my favourite player) puts him ahead by a country mile.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 12:48:03 It's back to the old story!

Harding is a good footballer. Yesterday he was poor. Greacen can be a huge asset, AND a huge liability. The two rarely play well together, though I though Barry Smith had got them better organised for a while.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 12:50:11
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 3 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]396053[/snapback]
We were playing fairly well yesterday. Not creating much but looking fairly solid apart from bad marking at the corner. Our only attacking outlet was down the wings. So what does McInally do? Change to a formation with no width. While Finlayson and McAllister were at least getting some joy down the flanks at times he moved Finlayson 30 yards back the way and McAllister into the middle. McGuffie was invisible yesterday and Millar, for all his huffing and puffing, couldn't get into the game at all. Only McLaughlin in the midfield looked like he could take the ball from the defence and play a pass along the ground... the answer?? throw him in at left back.

Russell came on and looked lively and brought Wake into life a bit as he had someone to aim his flick ons to. Although the right player came on the wrong player went off.

Brian Graham must be wondering what he did wrong. He had a great first half at Gretna, yet still didn't kick a ball yesterday in favour of Wake who may have contributed some 'dig' up front, but wasn't doing much else.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 12:52:07
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ Feb 3 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]396086[/snapback]
Apparently Alan Jenkins is our top earner. He is a good player, lets hope he stays a good player! i also like the lad Skelton at Gretna, maybe we should have enquired about him?

JB.

It's a hell of a responsibility now being placed on Jenkins. Will he fulfil promise?

If so, that will be a first for any signing since JM took over.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 12:58:41
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 3 2008, 12:19 PM) [snapback]396095[/snapback]
I stood over at the WDE of the shed yesterday and when Russell came on most of those around me cringed. The guys a joke. Plenty of running but achieves nothing, first touch is is rubbish, took a fresh air effort while comming in from the right flank. Like some of the others in this team he aint got what it takes.

In yesterdays conditions when we elected to play with the wind in the 2nd half we needed a big man up there to deal with the route 1 tactics JM was obviously planning. How we got rid of Templeman inlieu of a couple has been midfielders is above me. What strikers we do have left Peter is the only one that you'd put a fiver on before each game to get a goal. We need goals and Russell isnae the answer.

We need to do what QOS have done, settled defence that will stay rigid, build from the back.

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It's all about opinions-I agree about Sanny, but how dare you call LEAFY 'a joke'. He NEEDS somebody like Sanny to hold the ball up and release it at the right time and he WILL score.

If there's 'a joke' at cappielow, he doesn't don a strip.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 13:00:48
QUOTE(Edinton @ Feb 3 2008, 12:22 PM) [snapback]396097[/snapback]
Aye I'm sure it's McInally that's at fault here, and not Stevenson. rolleyes.gif

Maybe the best man to answer that question would be Alan Maitland.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 13:03:01
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Feb 3 2008, 12:23 PM) [snapback]396098[/snapback]
I know the reason also. So Dougie doesnt have to answer questions when folk are talking about the truth then try to defend himself and defer the question to a player as an excuse.

NEVER? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-03 13:06:16
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 3 2008, 12:48 PM) [snapback]396119[/snapback]
Russell in the 3-1 loss to Hamilton on 29 December
Last league victory at Cappielow 4-2 v Thistle Saturday 6 October

Four months since a home win and the Manager's still here!
mortonjag 2008-02-03 13:08:38 Unlucky laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-03 13:13:38
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 3 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]396096[/snapback]
it wasn't me at all who started with the crocodiles. I also find this whole argument of yours that I was the one who was being arrogant amusing. If you read back you'll see I give my own beliefs and why I think creationists are wrong. It was then you, rather than accept my opinion or try and rebuff them, decided to go in a tirade in which you constantly tried to insult me. How very Christian of you.

ps. you're a ref and I have a referee question: if an attacker knocks the ball by a goalkeeper at the by-line and has an open goal infront of him but has to run past the by-line (with the ball in play) and the keeper pulls him back with both the goalkeeper and the attacker outside the line of play what is the correct course of action? My mate said penalty but I said sending off of the goalkeeper but no penalty.

Where the players are is of no consequence. If the ball's still in play and the goalie is the last man-penalty and red card.

I await the referee's decision!
mortonjag 2008-02-03 13:19:31
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Feb 3 2008, 01:15 PM) [snapback]396147[/snapback]
The guy was a f***ing c*ck. He skipped the queue with not a care in the world and pretty much mocked everyone else as he went in. The policewoman on the gate should have done something about it - but what a surprise the police in being useless shocker!!

Mind you I wasn't even going to mention this as I am far more pissed off about the terrible performance our players put in today. But then I noticed this thread and thought I would put my tuppence in.

Just a thought. Is queue jumping illegal. If not, what can the cops do? The stewards are there to carry out the wishes of the club, who have the right to refuse entry.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 13:20:35
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 3 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]396143[/snapback]
Oh dear, oh deary deary me.

Treason carries a charge of hanging if found guilty.

Maybe we should hold it at Scapa.

Ask to get the bag put over your head before being taken outside to the baying crowds.
I'll then arrange to prang you and replace you with a hooded JM
How does that sound, you up for it tongue.gif
What's the time, It's Time To Go !!!

What for-he never sees anything anyway.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 15:04:10
QUOTE(centralTON @ Feb 3 2008, 02:48 PM) [snapback]396218[/snapback]
Unless, of course, it's Craig Thomson.

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mortonjag 2008-02-03 15:08:32
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 3 2008, 12:42 PM) [snapback]396108[/snapback]
I very much doubt his agenda is to ruin the club he re-built. If the fans decide that is the case I'm sure they would club together to wrestle control of the club back to them in the way they had previously.

Fair enough.

You've stated that it IS his agenda. Do YOU think he's ruining the club?
mortonjag 2008-02-03 15:22:24
QUOTE(Jersey Ton @ Feb 3 2008, 01:34 PM) [snapback]396166[/snapback]
The simple answer is that the chairman can do exactly as he pleases BECAUSE HE OWNS THE BUSINESS. As you say he is accountable to various agencies, HMRC, local authority etc. but NOT the fans (except that they are customers of his business and have the right to withold their custom at any time). A football "club" is a misnomer, it is not a clubwhere there is equality with 1 member 1vote, there is no elected commitee, no office bearers chosen by the members. Greenock Morton Football Club is a company in which by direct ownership of shares and through his companies, DDFR has a "CONTROLLING INTEREST". It should be obvious to anyone with a modicum of intelligence and knowledge that this means he is in control and, unless he chooses to cede control to someone else, he can continue to do exactly as he chooses and to employ whoever he chooses, as manager or in any other capacity.
The fans can take action anytime that they choose to! Morton FC fans are in the privilidged position of having representation, through the trust, on the board of directors of GMFC. If you are unhappy about how the club is being run, join the trust, write to the trust board or raise the issue at the trust AGM. Alternatively you could write to the club, write to the Greenock Telegraph, write to your MSP, have questions raised in the Scottish parliament, organise a march, organise a rally, start a fundraising campaign, organise a boycott, protest outside the ground, form a consortium, find a backer and buy the club. That seemed to work last time but I think you might find fewer people willing to support you this time around!!!

J.T.

Thanks for the elaboration JT. You've not told me anything I didn't know already, but you have highlighted the fact that the fans have the ultimate power.

They are already voting with their feet, and the concept of this omnipotent being who can do exactly what he pleases in the running of an enterprise which ultimately depends on putting bums on seats is self contradictory.

He's stretching the loyalty of even the most die-hard Ton fans to the limit, and I imagine yesterday's result will see a fair few more drifting away, yet to date, he's seemed incapable of taking any of the blame himself.

Behaviour of this kind from a man successful elsewhere in business matters does raise serious questions-for me at least-about his state of mind.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 15:31:03
QUOTE(gmfc_stinny_gmfc @ Feb 3 2008, 01:34 PM) [snapback]396165[/snapback]
I just dont know why McInally didnt get rid of Harding and bring in a few defenders capable of defending in this division... he is not first division material... nor even 2nd division material thats what i think anyway. Okay he has had a FEW good games but the BAD games out number the good games by some margin... he really must go in the summer .... anyone agree ?

Nope-when Harding has played without Greacen he's looked comfortable. They don't complement each other. People have very short memories, but I well recall the game where we trounced Killie, after which Ryan was described by one newspaper reporter as 'outstanding'.

All players go through bad patches, and most fans look for scapegoats after results like yesterday's.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 15:34:43
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 3 2008, 02:23 PM) [snapback]396201[/snapback]
Clyde really are awful, we should beat them so that's a start.

Could be win-win though, JM's time has to be up if we lose to them unsure.gif

So were Dunfermline. John Brown's just settling into the job. We can't take anything for granted.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 15:42:09 It's been a long time since Jimbo wasn't even mentioned in a MOTM poll. He was very good at Gretna-can't help wondering if the non-move to Well with the surrounding speculation has rattled him a bit.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 15:45:07
QUOTE(centralTON @ Feb 3 2008, 02:45 PM) [snapback]396216[/snapback]
The question is; would Dougie rather see us at the top of div2 and looking to win the league( adding an extra 400-500 on the gate ) or scratching around the play-off place in div1, therefore losing revenue for the club as only the hardliners will go? It may be something which has crossed his mind.

I'd imagine so.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 15:50:34
QUOTE(Deego @ Feb 3 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]396241[/snapback]
Both Kev and Jim are right footed.

That's what I meant-TY I have edited it!
mortonjag 2008-02-03 15:56:59
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 3 2008, 01:55 PM) [snapback]396177[/snapback]
the crowd was s***e. from the stand side the shed crowd looked poor. i was amazed that there were more than 3000 in the official attendance. embarrassing support for a cup tie but then we're f***ing s***e

Agreed-ten minutes before kick off it looked very disappointing, and although it did fill up fairly quickly, I never at any point saw a crowd of over 4,000.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 16:01:43
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 3 2008, 03:34 PM) [snapback]396249[/snapback]
We know Harding CAN play well but there is no point keeping him in the team in hope that he can have one of his 3 or 4 good games he has in a season, when he is generally very good.

The rest of the time though he is a complete liability and has cost more goals than any other player in that team, and must at the very least be dropped for a few games to try and stem the flow of goals we are leaking.

As has been said, the bad games outnumber the good by about 10 to 1, so I'd drop him now.
EDIT: Is he just being used as a scapegoat even though he was at fault for [b]both goals?[/b]

If we'd given them a really decent game, and knocked in three, we would not have needed a scapegoat.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 16:03:35
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 3 2008, 04:01 PM) [snapback]396274[/snapback]
if they can't improve on that diarrhea yesterday they will go down via the play offs

If Stirling go on a run, we could go straight down!
mortonjag 2008-02-03 16:07:18
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 3 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]396222[/snapback]
sure?

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mortonjag 2008-02-03 16:14:18
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 3 2008, 04:08 PM) [snapback]396287[/snapback]
dougie rae? tongue.gif

i hardly know anyone that wants him to stay but then again i dont know every morton fan, but if every single morton fan wanted him gone then the crowds would be even lower, it would be shouted at games constantly followed by maybe even something like a boycott.

theres still too many people not that bothered if he stays for him to be sacked yet.

I guess the fans who are still trekking along are the more die hard among us. It wouldn't surprise me if those who have already stopped coming actually cared LESS about the issue.

I'm in absolutely no doubt whatsoever that the majority who left yesterday's miserable showing were in favour of a new manager-in fact if some of the comments I heard were to be believed, quite a few would have willingly strung JM up single handedly!
mortonjag 2008-02-03 16:17:14
QUOTE(mentalton @ Feb 3 2008, 04:11 PM) [snapback]396290[/snapback]
I like the steak pies at Cappielow, theyre yummy, its the only reason I go to the games now cos the teams shi@t.

Killie have the best steak pies, and they're s*** at the moment too. Pop down there instead.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 16:21:58
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 3 2008, 04:19 PM) [snapback]396297[/snapback]
Couldn't agree more. Nobody told us they were placing the cameras there, right where we usually stand. Ended up paying full price for a restricted view. In retrospect, maybe it's just as well the view was restricted.

I presume the club got some pennies from the TV coffers.

More than they'd have got from putting the fans first? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-03 16:27:57
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 3 2008, 04:22 PM) [snapback]396301[/snapback]
Save your how dare you patter for the kids. I appreciate your opinions on this board without being rude to you.

Lets deal in fact, Leafys produced nothing since he came to us. What half chances that have fallen to him he's made a mess of it, that fresh air effort he had within 5 minutes of him comming on yesterday is like every other game he gets, so near yet so far.

Spoonsy was better playing of Temps as he at least has a better 1st touch than Russell. Your leafy won't be there to long if he doesnt get the finger out!

The ships sinking!

LEAFY may not be playing particularly well-he is NOT 'a joke', and how dare you suggest he is?

He's a professional footballer, who's moved up a division, and who works his bloody balls off in every game. It's hardly his fault if the jokes in the dugout can't play others to his strengths. The best sharpshooter in the world will never hit the target without ammunition.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 16:32:26
QUOTE(mentalton @ Feb 3 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]396302[/snapback]
Really, if they are better than the ones at Cappielow they must be really quite something. I usually have 2 coz one never seems to be enough, always buy one fully intending to stop at that but once I get the taste Mmmmmmmmm.
Have to eat them both before the game starts cos what Ive been watching on the park turns my stomache.

Killie pies are world famous. My partner's workmate lives in Kilmarnock, and she gets a few for us every now and again. I believe Brownings are the name on the match day pies, but they are bought locally from a retailer called 'Wales'.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 17:09:12
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 3 2008, 05:02 PM) [snapback]396326[/snapback]
No. I stated that I don't think it IS his agenda and no I don't think he is ruining the club.

Do you think the club's in good shape financially?
mortonjag 2008-02-03 17:12:14
QUOTE(mentalton @ Feb 3 2008, 04:05 PM) [snapback]396280[/snapback]
Are any of the hate McInally brigade hoping we get beat next week to seal his fate or are 3 points more important.

I certainly hate what he's doing, and I'd hate relegation.

IF losing next week would lead to changes which would guarantee safety, I'd accept that.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 17:18:22
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 3 2008, 05:10 PM) [snapback]396330[/snapback]
What sh1te you talk , I think its you that is losing your marbles

You come over repeatedly as a self satisfied, and not very bright little upstart, whose nose is variably well crammed up JM's and Shoogly's arse.

'One liners' like that are the best you ever seem to produce. I take it you believe the Chairman is doing a sterling job! It would be nice to hear your reasoning, if it's not beyond your mental capabilities.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 17:21:47
QUOTE(mentalton @ Feb 3 2008, 04:37 PM) [snapback]396315[/snapback]
Do you mean your partner as in partner or tne munky.

The monkey's Mummy!
mortonjag 2008-02-03 17:23:43
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Feb 3 2008, 05:14 PM) [snapback]396333[/snapback]
WTF has killie pies got to do with us staying up, I asked a serious question on current form can we survive this season and beat the drop? I know that the chairmans aim for this season was to consolidate and remain in this league but on current form I would think he is quite worried and may have to make the decision on the manager sooner rather than later.

Well he's getting one more admission fee just because of the club's steak pies. If only he bought in Killie pies-SPL here we come.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 17:32:33
QUOTE(standman @ Feb 3 2008, 05:22 PM) [snapback]396337[/snapback]
They've gone way down in my estimation after they've both been caught playing away from home. They always portray themselves as sincere guys, indeed it makes their latest single @I want to spend my liffe with you' pretty laughable.

Have the members of a band been caught shagging?
mortonjag 2008-02-03 17:34:46 What's the big deal? All politicians are corrupt-seems the crime's getting caught. I'd love to see her sent to jail mind you-with the rest of them.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 17:36:54 puzzling?
mortonjag 2008-02-03 17:39:43 I'd settle for any eleven guys who really want to win-we don't have any rank awful players IMO.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 17:43:18
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 3 2008, 05:40 PM) [snapback]396353[/snapback]
You come accross as a boring old man wth nothing else to do with his life but post on this forum , you constantly post utter drivvle and to be honest have really started to bore me to tears .

As for how I come across to you

1. I dont care what you think
2 I dont like you
3 You bore me to Death with your constant negativity

Get a life and stop spaming us with your bulls*** "I hate Dougie" campaign

Oh I could swear we've never met your majesty.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 18:15:30
QUOTE(stubaws @ Feb 3 2008, 06:04 PM) [snapback]396367[/snapback]
scott and redsox - both are wasting your time here, this guy will not stop picking at everything you say. before you know it he'll be telling us it was actually dougie (and not osama bin laden) who was responsible for the 9/11 attacks. let him have his rants if it makes hime feel better

Hold on a minute stewed baws-redsox has at least tried to put forward some opinions to counter mine-as to that other cretin-he's obviously stretching his one neurone to breaking point to post a pointless insult.

What do YOU think of the current situation at Cappielow? I did start what I intended to be a serious thread, and apart from the usual 'I don't like nasty Mortonjag' stuff, nobody seems to be disagreeing with the general points I made.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 18:19:46
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 3 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]396368[/snapback]
A small one I leave in for about 15 minutes on full bung. Then leave it a minute or two and check it. Usually that's enough but sometimes needs another 2/3 minutes. That's an 850w microwave mind.

A small one-it'll end up like a bloody cinder!!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-04 07:07:09
QUOTE(stubaws @ Feb 3 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]396383[/snapback]
redsox has put his arguments forward and all you've done is insult him and ask if he's actually a morton supporter and started a bit of name calling - very big of you.

i can't be arsed getting into another argument with you, its pointless due to your narrow mind. again to re-iterate what i said in our last argument, i do agree with some of your points regarding the way the club is ran. however, dougie has his money and can do what he likes with it. the main problem at cappielow just now is on the field, of that there can be no doubt

The ship is running aground-I agree. The master appears to be using a faulty compass. Mr Rae IS Greenock Morton-that's about the only thing everybody agrees on, and it's time he opened his eyes before S.S. Shoogly finally goes to a watery grave.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 07:26:37
QUOTE(Jersey Ton @ Feb 3 2008, 07:42 PM) [snapback]396423[/snapback]
M.J.
I may have told you nothing you didn't already know but I certainly didn't say that the fans have the ultimate power. On the contrary, I highlighted why DDFR can do as he pleases regarding who he employs. Your assertion that the enterprise "ultimately depends on putting bums on seats" is a fallacy. That would only be true if, and only if, the continued existence of the football club was dependent on attendances. If that were the case, the club would have folded some time ago. The club continues because it is financially subsidised by Golden Casket (DDFR) and will continue for as long as it continues to be supported by Golden Casket. As I stated previously, the fans can choose to attend or not, that is our perogative and the owner can choose his staff, that is his perogative. Remember, it is possible to run a fairly succesful football club with very few fans, Just ask Brooks Mileson!
For the record, I don't think the manager has done an adequate job, I don't agree with the chairman's decision to keep him in post but I recognise his absolute right to make that decision.

J.T.

I have copies of the latest club accounts for G.M.F.C., and for Golden Casket JT.

Contrary to common opinion here, I DON'T make sweeping statements to discredit Mr Rae. He is a small businessman, who in the great scheme of things is underwriting a struggling Scottish 1st division club. His love for the club is as genuine as is his relative lack of money-a fact which is glaringly obvious to anyone with half a brain.

If Rae was 'splashing the cash' in original Mileson form (and contrary to your statement, the chickens came home to roost there) we'd be in the S.P.L. right now.

Goodness, Mr Rae is himself regularly bleating about the fans not bringing their money through the turnstyles!!!

You'll notice I'm not substantially disagreeing with the logic in your argument, merely questioning Rae's ability to sustain even first division status on the strength of his own assets.

THAT IS WHY HE CANNOT IGNORE HIS PAYING CUSTOMERS.

I notice your very witty 'haunle' JT, and it appears you have a grasp of things financial.

Maybe you are Alistair Donald firing a wee shot across the jag's bows, or who knows, you may be a GENUINELY wealthy Jersey tax exile who still loves the Ton.

If the latter is the case, you are undoubtedly the loveliest, loveliest man on God's whole earth, and I promise I will outdo the most ardent Shooglyphile in the perpetual bussing of your blessed buttocks, should you buy him out!!! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-04 07:30:04
QUOTE(Jim @ Feb 3 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]396432[/snapback]
d.rae should come clean. first he should tell us that all gate moneyhas been used to pay for inprovments to the ground to get a safety cert. then we will be going part time and if we stay in this division next year, we will spend what we generate at cappielow only.and if thier is someone out there who is prepared to lose money and take the s*** that goes with it ,then put it to the fans i am sure they will pat u on the back untill you have a bad spell then watch out for the knifes in the back from the very same people.

It's true Jim-a bit of honesty regarding how he sees the future would do absolutely nothing but good in the long run.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 07:31:44
QUOTE(Jersey Ton @ Feb 3 2008, 07:54 PM) [snapback]396444[/snapback]
M.J.
I disagree fundamentally with the point you made regarding DDFR losing his marbles. If the criterion you apply for insanity is disagreeing with mortonjag then there are a lot of people on this board in need of psychiatric care. As I have said earlier, the decision on the managers position is one for the owner and he must take that knowing the targets set at the start of the season as well as the financial and other implications of dismissing the incumbent.
I don't think JM is doing very well but I don't know what he has been given to work with or against what criteria his sucess or otherwise is being judged. It is feasible that 8th place and survival could have been the target and that remains within reach (for now)

J.T.

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mortonjag 2008-02-04 07:33:56
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 4 2008, 06:50 AM) [snapback]396731[/snapback]
Well said that man, though the moron is far too stupid to realise he bores a lot of people & he's not very bright either (he just knows a lot of big words).

He goes OTT when we lose a match, like this one, He goes OTT when we win, Just like he did after hte gretna match.

I believe it's Dr moron that's losing (or probably already lost) his marbles, But he's just too dumb to notice.
Bless him !!

DOH laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-04 07:41:38 I'd say 'I told you so' and cut my bloody throat after making a will in favour of the Monkey.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 07:44:32
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 3 2008, 09:28 PM) [snapback]396535[/snapback]
What difference does a daft wee armband make on the park really? I'd expect Jenkins to be shouting and bawling and trying to motivate his team mates whether he's captain or not and that goes for all the players.

It depends who is wearing it.

That is the WHOLE point.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 07:45:33
QUOTE(gorkir @ Feb 3 2008, 09:35 PM) [snapback]396555[/snapback]
Are you saying Lilley was good - your having a laugh he was a waste of space

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mortonjag 2008-02-04 07:50:57
QUOTE(davidh1874 @ Feb 4 2008, 12:26 AM) [snapback]396658[/snapback]
Official attendance that day was 12,000 exactly. I was one of the aforementioned season ticket holder locked out. Started queueing at 1345 and didn't even get onto Sinclair Street. Bloody glory hunters!

We arrived about 2.05 and eventually got squashed into the far away corner between the WDE and Shed.

Are those lemming creatures really Ton supporters?
mortonjag 2008-02-04 07:54:55
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 3 2008, 08:44 PM) [snapback]396496[/snapback]
The guy cant cut it at this level, he's out of his depth, his skill levels for this division ARE a joke. Sure he gives 100% and runs himself into the ground, i've seen people like this all my working life, busy fools running mad but achieve nothing.......

He's had more than enough time to blend in to this team and get to know the method of play. What we paid for some of the others who aint been cutting it we could have got Dobbie who's rattled in nearly 20 goals this season against the same defenders Russells up against each week.

Much more time are you wanting to give this joke? He just is not Cappielow class.

Bloody hell-you didn't tell us you're a football manager-fancy a job?
mortonjag 2008-02-04 08:00:51
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 3 2008, 08:19 PM) [snapback]396480[/snapback]
Och away get your incontinence pants on instead of stewing in your own pish

EDIT: If that is indeed true, MJ must be right all the time too tongue.gif

Ah, I love fishing in the evening

My carer had me safely tucked in bed by the time you posted, and you are correct about the incontinence pants-the greatest invention since the woman (or did they evolve?).


For a relatively young man you have a fine way with words, as highlighted!

It's also a little bit more delicate than casseroling in your own keech.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 08:05:51 I was sittting beside a BBC reporter from Dumfries who said he was there partly as a Queens fan and partly to do some post match interviews-I don't know his name-it was the bloke next to me who recognised him.


Anyway he said very little about our fans-didn't say much at all actually, but when they went two up-he gave me a sympathetic smile and said 'The difference between that side and the one which beat Gretna is a mystery'.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 08:11:48
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 3 2008, 08:45 PM) [snapback]396499[/snapback]
Either indirect free-kick going out or an indirect free-kick going in AND a yellow card depending who left the field of play first. Assuming that one or both of them left the field of play deliberately to gain an advantage. In this case probably the attacker.
TonInDublin

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Just shows how people should stick to their own jobs-eh! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-04 08:12:45
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Feb 4 2008, 01:30 AM) [snapback]396678[/snapback]
I'm obviously psychotic on a massive scale.

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mortonjag 2008-02-04 08:50:24
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 4 2008, 08:40 AM) [snapback]396759[/snapback]
Agreed, not only have I jumped the queue I have also invited ppl to join me in the queue, if anyone had said anything I would not have argued I would have went to the back of the queue without a whimper.

I do remember the last Scotland game at Celtic Park, when I arrived at the ground there was a massive queue and I was bursting for a pee, I looked around and the was absolutely no were I could do out of sight of others so in a moment of desperation I ask explained my situation to everyone right down the queue and asked if the minded, no one did and almost everyone laughed, even the polis woman at the gate thought it was funny, once in I had to sprint up about 6 flights of stairs to get to the toilet but I'm happy to say I made it. laugh.gif

The British are inveterate queuers-the very opposite of the Germans.

I remember coming back on a ferry from Denmark when the Duty Free shop had just opened, and two long and orderly queues had formed.

Out of the blue a big Kraut appeared and marched right to the front-everybody was too scared to confront him until this massive bloke in a kilt who looked like he ate cabers for breakfast tapped him on the shoulder pointing to the door simply spitting out the word 'QUEUE'!

Whether or not he spoke English, he certainly got the message, and there was a fair wee bit of jollity among the rest us.

The point being, however, that Gerry didn't think he'd done anything wrong.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 08:53:34
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 4 2008, 08:02 AM) [snapback]396753[/snapback]
nice to see u never called it a "tattie". we don't say that round these parts

OK spud.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 09:42:02
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 4 2008, 08:59 AM) [snapback]396762[/snapback]
Might have been Willie Johnston, reports for the BBC down here and is on Reporting Scotland a lot.

He told me he had been sharing breakfast with a Ton fan in Dumfries, as they waited news of the pitch inspection-guy probably late thirties, early forties, polite, and well spoken with a slight borders twang
mortonjag 2008-02-04 09:50:53
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 4 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]396764[/snapback]
Things have to turn around if we are to stay up. Have a look at the last 8 games on soccerstats and you will find that we are, by some distance, the worst team in the league based on those games. Queen of the South on the other hand, top the league. So in terms of form, Saturday was top against bottom so maybe its not that surprising that we lost!

We have the players to turn this as I think to a large extent its a confidence thing with the players. We can play and beat teams in this league and that was proved in the early part of the season. We're stronger now in terms of squad and so we should beat at least half the teams in this league but what is missing is someone to pull it together and lift the team both on and off the park. Maybe Jenkins will help on the park. Unfortunately I don't think McInally can do the off the park bit!

I think we'll survive, but only just!

Confidence and maturity I think. When the boys get lost they look to JM for guidance and motivation-nothing is forthcoming so they're left to get on with it. Sometimes it works-mostly they just collapse in a heap.

There is not (possibly excluding Smith) a natural leader among them. It's a HELL of a burden for Alan Jenkins, but just maybe he'll be able to get some momentum going.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 09:54:17
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 4 2008, 09:07 AM) [snapback]396763[/snapback]
Stick a metal skewer through it - or a stainless steel knife. That way the heat gets conducted to the middle and it cooks more evenly, so you don't get a bit in the middle that is only half cooked. Also shortens the cooking time overall. Don't use a skewer or knife if you put it in the microwave though or you'll see an interesting lightning display and your microwave may stop working....

BPs shouldn't be cooked in microwaves - ruins the texture.

Although that's true, microwaved potatoes are far more nutritious!

You win some and lose some.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 10:27:33
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 4 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]396776[/snapback]
The idea that the current team being rubbish is the fans' fault is yet another excuse the decision-makers at the club will use to keep them from examining their own role in it.

There are quite a few idiots at Cappielow who let loose with totally unwarranted abuse but a lot of what is shouted really isn't that bad.

I'd suggest that any first team regular - who is picking up a decent wage for this level of football, remember - who finds themself unable to deal with the atmosphere at Cappielow should submit a transfer request, as they're never going to be able to hack it if they can't hack it now.

Correct nach0 and it's incredible just how blinkered people can be.

I remember an insolvency practitioner (not our resident bugler) telling me that in his experience the last man to see a business is going down is often the bloke who started it up.

It's quite sad to read the Chairman's programme notes-I know I give him a hard time, but it's so obvious he still thinks the fans hang on his every word, when in fact he has repeatedly alienated them with silly throw away comments.

One thing I've noticed about the latest breed of Ton fans is that they DO expect to be entertained-we rarely hear any substantial support until we're clearly putting on a decent show-so often the boys never get started on the park, and in return they get nothing from the Shed.

You are correct about the players too-many an old music hall performer wouldn't 'do Glasgow' because of the dourness of the audiences, but by God, if you could win them over, you were set up for life.

I don't care what anybody says about money-the viability of a football club lies entirely with its fans, and the sooner Mr Rae (if things are not already beyond redemption) starts giving us the entertainment and success we crave, the sooner the gates will begin to swell.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 10:30:40
QUOTE(craigeton @ Feb 4 2008, 10:06 AM) [snapback]396775[/snapback]
I can't believe the amount of posters on here that seem to think that Jenkins is some kind of messiah and is going to turn things around for us. You guys are in for one hell of a shock.

Do you know something we don't? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-04 10:33:27
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Feb 4 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]396780[/snapback]
I dislike McInally, i dont hate him. Saturdays substitution and changing formation was as said on other threads a suicidal mistake but they did have a good win on monday night and at the end of the day it was the cup. The League is all we have now even though it would have been nice to see us in the next round of the cup. We need these 3 points and personally i couldnt give a flying feck what happens to McInally now. I just wish DDR and the other cronies up in the Muppet box would see sense though. I looked across to DDR when the 2nd goal went in and what a picture of a face. Surely he must be pissed off to f*** seeing the same tactical mistakes. The fans im sure will dwindle away more if we dont get the points on saturday.
3 points YES more important

McInally ?, do what ye want, cant be arsed criticising him anymore.

Mon The Ton

I coudn't see the faces Gibby, but there was a hell of a grunt from Miss Piggy.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 11:09:39
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 4 2008, 11:00 AM) [snapback]396790[/snapback]
We recently acquired a second-hand microwave that also has convection heating, and you can set it up to do both at the same time. So you can do baked spuds in it without transferring it from microwave to oven.

(If this is old hat and everyone else has had one for years then I apologise, I'd only ever seen them in America before this.)

It's old hat nach0-we had one back in the early nineties, but found they were too footery and ultimately only used the microwave function. Maybe they went out of fashion after then.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 11:20:17 I have a wee notion that the universe as we know it evoved from a packet of Cuppa Soup, discarded milions and billions and trillions of light years ago by an overfed brat on Planet Enigma.

mortonjag 2008-02-04 11:21:58
QUOTE(craigeton @ Feb 4 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]396800[/snapback]
Looks like it.

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Don't tell us he's a double agent for Clyde!
mortonjag 2008-02-04 11:31:41
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 4 2008, 11:21 AM) [snapback]396801[/snapback]
Sources?

It's just my own theory.

I also have a theory that Planet Enigma evolved from a horse's jobby on planet Equinus.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 11:46:39
QUOTE(theton1 @ Feb 4 2008, 11:31 AM) [snapback]396807[/snapback]
I think with the exception of grecean and harding, we have a strong enough team to stay up.
but we cannot afford to gift goals evey game, surely JM can see that our defence is substandard in this division.
JM must go , Dougie is not blind but does he have the balls to get rid of him before its to late, we might get a few good results in the coming weeks but that will only hide the truth, JM cannot motivate and has no tactical awareness.

I'm a wee bit sick of the constant flurry of criticism of Greacen and Harding. FFS only SEVEN days ago a radio commentator was describing them as probably the best defensive pairing in the division, and Gretna got no change out of them.

Because they're the last line of defence their mistakes are always exposed while others often get off with bloody murder. Why-for example is there NEVER a midfielder who's willing to accept a forward pass and take the initiative of building up moves-that's the sort of thing Stevenson used to do at Alloa-it's the sort of thing I'd have expected of Mcguffie too. Why do we have no proper full backs to give more width to the defence?

Barry Smith, IMHO, has actually been a good signing, because he has a steadying influence at the back, but he'll be away shortly.

What is sticking out a mile is that Stu and hardy have NEVER worked well together as a pairing-neither is brilliant, nor is either duff. It's up to the coaching staff to sort out problems like that, but as we know, they appear to be a dead loss.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 11:52:15
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 4 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]396809[/snapback]
to cook a baked potato - insert 3 wooden c***tail sticks in to the potato to make a kind of tripod, stand this in the microwave blast on full power and when the sticks have went through the potato then it is ready. just make sure u remove the c***tail sticks after its cooked

might seem a bit stupid but it works!

Interesting-how far do you put the sticks in?
mortonjag 2008-02-04 11:58:31
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 4 2008, 11:55 AM) [snapback]396830[/snapback]
just enough to support it, unfortunately i cant remember how long to cook it for though!

I thought you meant the tattie would collapse when it was ready so timing it is less important. I will give it a wee try and report later on the experiment! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-04 12:21:08
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 4 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]396842[/snapback]
naw the c***tail sticks go through the tottie when it is ready!
Since when was c o c k t a i l a profane word????? laugh.gif

...and c***aleekie soup I'd guess!
mortonjag 2008-02-04 12:27:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 4 2008, 11:56 AM) [snapback]396833[/snapback]
No room in the shed on Saturday was my excuse tongue.gif

Was there a bright shining star in the east as well?
mortonjag 2008-02-04 13:14:33
QUOTE(theton1 @ Feb 4 2008, 12:45 PM) [snapback]396860[/snapback]
before the game on saturday we were all getting behind the team no matter what, but as soon as the first goal went in all the heads were down, its hard not to critical when you see some of the amaturest errors, but they need to know we are behind them and hear us cheer them on, If JM cannot restore the confidence then we the support should.

Oh and by the way the best football played on saturday was the kids at half time, we should see them on a regular basis, as it keeps the crowd entertained for the interval.

Even when we were winning the champinship last year the vocal support was rarely that great, because the football we played was generally JM crap. Ever since he came he's had an unfailing ability to make the most simple things difficult with his ultra cautious approach, and 'grind it out' mentality.

The present breed of Ton fans is never going to 'get right behind the boys' if the boys are not producing, and I do not blame them.

There is just SO much wrong at Cappielow right now-we DESPERATELY need fresh faces and fresh ideas if Douglas Rae is going to come out the other end of this season with any credibility left.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 13:18:16
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Feb 4 2008, 01:02 PM) [snapback]396867[/snapback]
I think I know.

Ha ha-of course you do-it was your birthday recently-am I on the right track?
mortonjag 2008-02-04 13:20:55
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Feb 4 2008, 01:03 PM) [snapback]396868[/snapback]
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You're a year older now my little moppet-don't demean yourself.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 14:00:50
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 4 2008, 01:36 PM) [snapback]396884[/snapback]
was it Jeremy beadle????? was it was it???? laugh.gif

....Singing 'My tiny hand is frozen'?
mortonjag 2008-02-04 14:03:14
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 4 2008, 01:59 PM) [snapback]396895[/snapback]
IMHO her days were numbered when she was photographed wearing at St Mirren strip. She should have resigned at that point. I sent her this email at that time, although she didn't reply (presumably due to an "administrative error"):

Dear Ms Alexander,

I note that you were recently reported in the newspapers to have worn a St Mirren strip in public. I realise that in your position you are perhaps asked to pose in various embarrassing positions and situations, but as a Morton supporter of many years standing, I feel that allowing yourself to be photographed wearing black and white stripes is a severe lapse that puts into perspective all this trivial nonsense about breaking the law and accepting illegal donations. Clearly by donning the garb of the Love Street unwashed, you have shown yourself to be totally lacking in judgement, and unfit for high office (which fortunately you have never achieved and are now never likely to achieve). It is not sufficient excuse for you to try to claim that you put on the shirt unintentionally - everyone knows what that strip stands for - and I would call on you to resign immediately for bringing the Scottish Parliament into disrepute. I realise that these strips are cheap, well under the £1000 threshold that would require them to be declared to the electoral commission, but nevertheless nobody, not even a Labour MSP, can be above the laws of fashion sense. You would never catch Alex Salmond wearing a St Mirren strip, of that I am quite sure!

Wishing you all the best in your (rapidly) impending retirement,

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Mind you all politicians are just skunks in fancy dress.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 15:33:33
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 4 2008, 02:22 PM) [snapback]396901[/snapback]
is it still in the microwave????? plug the fecker in! laugh.gif

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I'm busy painting but promise to try it this evening and will report back! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-04 15:35:33
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Feb 4 2008, 02:55 PM) [snapback]396911[/snapback]
Well yes, if you were reading this forum on the 2nd February you'd know that. Not that I'm making light of your detective skills.

So they were sitting beside YOU-and somebody else too???
mortonjag 2008-02-04 16:37:12
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 4 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]396937[/snapback]
I always thought it was "duking", like a duke might just stride past the commoners all the way to the front.

"Ya f***in' duke!"

Chambers has it as jook or jouk-Scots for to duck out of something.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:08:19
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 4 2008, 02:22 PM) [snapback]396901[/snapback]
is it still in the microwave????? plug the fecker in! laugh.gif

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Just tried it-made a nice tripod-it looked like a wee fat pig in the microwave-and left on full power-after about three minutes I heard a thump, and the bloody thing was lying on its back with its legs in the air!!! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:10:20
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 4 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]397083[/snapback]
I thought it was avocadoes, just like the plural of potato. But there you go, you're the teacher.

It's more of a piano than a potato DE!
mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:11:45
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 4 2008, 09:28 PM) [snapback]397103[/snapback]
He's 67 now, I feel really old! laugh.gif

Is Gordon Burns a Greenockian?
mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:14:05
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Feb 4 2008, 05:17 PM) [snapback]396962[/snapback]
David has all the components required to be a good player, but I think it's about time we were thinking about moving him on. A good player with no expertise in any position is no good to anybody.

Good at everything and not great at anything IMO.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:22:04
QUOTE(floydpink26 @ Feb 4 2008, 08:31 PM) [snapback]397059[/snapback]
I think what Jim is saying is tougne in cheek MJ,Yes by all means tell the fans his plans for the future of Morton.But what i think that Jim is saying is that would u prefer it if DDFR was to come out and say,He was going to run the club on profit based income as in Morton Running on the Gate Reciepts and Hospitality and Sponsorship only and go Part-Time.Until such a time as when some 1 else will come in with an offer for the club. Morton do well for the honeymoon period and things look rosey,Just to get stabbed in the back when Morton hit another bad spell by the very same ppl who wanted the new person in the first place.....and theres no finer example of that happening than our very own Chairman DDFR.

But hey im not Jim......But if u read what he posted its sarcasim.

I guess I'm not used to sarcasm laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:23:16
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Feb 4 2008, 09:17 PM) [snapback]397093[/snapback]
Whoooosh!! Not so smart after all. Tosser. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Staines!!!


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mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:24:56
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 4 2008, 07:36 PM) [snapback]397028[/snapback]
...is Craig Charleston.

Potentially the biggest game of our season and they give it to a guy who has never reffed a game above Division 2 level.

Okay he did the 2-1 win over Peterhead at Cappielow, but seems a bit of a high profile game to give him for his first taste of Division 1!

Maybe it was originally scheduled for Craig Thomson. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:29:14
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 4 2008, 08:05 PM) [snapback]397040[/snapback]
Hate to point it out but you cannot catch a cold from being wet, cold etc.

It is an old wives tale wink.gif

Same as "stop playing with that it will fall off"

True, but you can catch crabs in your own wee bed.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:34:13
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 4 2008, 07:10 PM) [snapback]397014[/snapback]
Nah, dont fancy it all, you'd only blame Shoogly for serving cold pies when I won us promotion or any other cause that you bitch about.

Could always fit you in along with Mark on the groundstaff, he'd love to have you with the amount of s***e you spout out, save Shoogly a few quid on fertiliser for the grass.

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I see we're back to Mortonjag 'spouting sh*te'.

I'm beginning to feel more at home.

So LEAFY's a 'joke'.

Then may your next keech be a hedgehog backwards.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:36:52
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 4 2008, 07:32 PM) [snapback]397024[/snapback]
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Mj, got to give this guy his dues, he has your number laugh.gif laugh.gif

I suspect he's the Loch Lomond monster Gash-Gus from Luss.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:40:16
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 4 2008, 09:36 PM) [snapback]397113[/snapback]
Good post mate, I thought that partnership showed some positive signs, if they can get themselves about a bit on Saturday and start to lean on some defenders as whats been happening to us this season I think we could get a few goals from them.

Peter can play and with the right person up with him to throw his weight about Wake might open up more chances. Sanny fell to the ground to easy and Russells to light as well. Id love Russell to make me eat my words, hope he does.........
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Indeed-they did a fair bit of running about getting nowhere-in fact together they almost achieved what LEAFY does himself in 90 minutes.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:47:54
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 4 2008, 06:25 PM) [snapback]396993[/snapback]
i wanted him before he went to the SFA but i dont want a part time manager, ill settle for John Robertson now.

How many hours a week does JM spend in Inverclyde?
mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:53:12
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 4 2008, 10:34 PM) [snapback]397178[/snapback]
By inference then I assume you've played a potato? huh.gif

Is that not JM's remit?
mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:55:14
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 4 2008, 10:39 PM) [snapback]397182[/snapback]
OMFG i think i have just literally pi*hed maself!

try 4 c***tail sticks then - iv never seen a 3 legged pig! could it fly? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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You said TRIPOD!!!

Tomorrow my little piggy shall be a quadruped, and I'll report back. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:56:45
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Feb 4 2008, 10:25 PM) [snapback]397170[/snapback]
Was it hard??? biggrin.gif

Once upon a time.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:57:49
QUOTE(Deego @ Feb 4 2008, 10:49 PM) [snapback]397190[/snapback]
Your opinions on this highly annoying band?

Never heard of them! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:59:54
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Feb 4 2008, 10:57 PM) [snapback]397197[/snapback]
I hope you're not doing this in yer maw's new kitchen MJ.

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Nope Donga-but my partner was pissing herself laughing when that bloody tottie/tattie fell over, and called me an 'Eejit'! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-04 23:02:22
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 4 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]397158[/snapback]
Aye, Burns Square is named in his honour.

It was a serious question!

I once knew a Gordon Burns who lived upstairs from my Auntie Kate in 24 Trafalgar St.

She had a budgie called Joey and made fantastic tablet.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 23:05:13
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Feb 4 2008, 11:03 PM) [snapback]397203[/snapback]
I think Puggsy and his mates were sitting next to MortonJag's Auntie Kate.

In Greenock cemetery? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-04 23:08:10
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 4 2008, 11:03 PM) [snapback]397204[/snapback]
The Pope's Wife tongue.gif

Don't tell me the old bod has finally done the honourable thing! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-04 23:11:19
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 4 2008, 11:05 PM) [snapback]397206[/snapback]
Was 24 by any chance the close that got knocked down next to the The New Roxburgh ??

As I recall it was on the corner of Holmscroft St. My Auntie Kate was the telephonist in the original Royal Beatson Memorial Hospital in Glasgow. She wasn't really my Auntie-just a good family friend, and an extremely good soul too. She used to cook us cod roe for breakfast and always burned the toast.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 23:14:10
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 4 2008, 11:08 PM) [snapback]397209[/snapback]
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By any chance was that meant to be The Monkey's Tea blink.gif

He refuses to eat potatoes-scared I'll call him a tattie muncher, but is partial to barbecued banana covered in coconut and drenched with honey.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 23:15:26
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 4 2008, 11:08 PM) [snapback]397208[/snapback]
No, I've never played a potato, not even under the inference. You're just being silly now.

Have you ever played a tomato?
mortonjag 2008-02-04 23:18:15
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 4 2008, 11:10 PM) [snapback]397212[/snapback]
you seem to confuse me with someone who wants JM as manager aswell.

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Not at all-I was asking a serious question-he lives in Monifeith. I gather training amounts to some six hours a week, and we play half our games away from home!
mortonjag 2008-02-04 23:19:14
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 4 2008, 11:12 PM) [snapback]397214[/snapback]
you still going on about that? tongue.gif

that decision has been the least of our worries this season.

Yes-I'm waiting for a reply from Drew Herbertson.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 23:28:01
QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Feb 4 2008, 11:23 PM) [snapback]397221[/snapback]
Can I just say that Danny and I don't profess to know everything about the club far from it.

We do try and make the tour as interesting as possible and we don't always get it right either. We also try, where possible, to make the tour as interesting to non Morton supporters also, who we often get at Cappielow. And we do bend the truth sometimes, but don't tell everyone ohmy.gif (it makes it a wee bit more interesting)

We do look for interesting facts that may not be well known to the average Morton supporter the stand history being one example.

As for the question about the origins of the stand(man) at Cappielow. The story about the Leith Athletic stand being reconstructed at Cappielow came from a older gentleman who had connections with the club going back many years.
How it got to Cappielow? It never crossed my mind to ask as it didn't occur to me that it would be the topic of such discussion. But I'll ask him the next time I see him..

The same source was able to tell me all about the Morton team of the mid forties and could quote it off by heart.

McFeat, Maley and Fyfe, Campbell, Aird and Whyte, Mathews, Garth, Lawton, Steel and Kelly.

Now with a memory like that I'm not going to question the validity of the gentleman's stand story.
Can I also just add that we have a very limited time to complete the tour and sometimes it is a bit rushed and we are stuck for space. We would like to organise things differently but we would probably end up with a tour that would take around over an hour to complete. Although I have to say it would be a far better experience all round.

But, we do our best and it's good to see people taking an interest in the clubs long history.

Probably well known SD, but in the Hal Stewart days, and I imagine long before that, you almost always got an encouraging blast from at least one of the trains passing behind the stand during a game..
mortonjag 2008-02-05 05:40:33
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 4 2008, 11:30 PM) [snapback]397227[/snapback]
No, no, no. Not even a tuber.

I'm pretty sure you may have guzzled the odd cornet.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 05:41:19
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 4 2008, 11:48 PM) [snapback]397234[/snapback]
he plays tom-ay-toes and you play tom-ah-toes?

Lets call the whole thing off.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 05:58:35
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 4 2008, 10:56 PM) [snapback]397195[/snapback]
I realise that Livingston and Gretna over spent and went a bit mental (and I said Ross County to an extent, who incidentally look all set to come straight back up) but I'm not using them as a model for us to copy exactly. I used them to illustrate that any club who has climbed from Division 3 to the SPL have had to be a bit ruthless and get rid of those who weren't good enough and strengthen the team each season they got promoted. Not, give the boys who got us promotion their chance - as Douglas Rae suggested.

If Morton strengthened adequately without going nuts I'd think that we have enough of a fan base to maintain a position in the SPL - much like ICT - rather than follow Gretna and Livingston.


In my opinion we aren't culpable for results at all. We are not paid to support the team. We might not help by booing or shouting abuse but the manager and players are paid to do a job and fans shouting abuse shouldn't be used as an excuse for them not achieving them.

At the end of the day, if the team was playing well and the manager was doing a good job the fans wouldn't get on their backs.

Rae is heading up what should be a successful marketing venture-he started with everything in his favour-a local man, loyal to the club, and a successful businessman with a die hard core of faithful supporters and a potential fanbase as big as any other Scottish club outside the cities.

Despite several blunders along the way, it's not very long ago at Starks Park, that he was gleefully being thrown in the air by the players, to the delight af a large following of happy fans.

FFS we had been pretty abysmal that day, and had only won the Championship by default, yet I could swear I didn't hear one fan complaining, even if I personally had a feeling of bitter sweetness about the whole affair.

Those of you who have stubbornly refused to see that that man has now totally lost the way-please at least give your fellow fans credit for a bit of intelligence.

Anybody remember the story of The Emperor's New Clothes?

That, of course, was a fairy story, but what's currently happening down Scapa way is a sorry in vivo re-enaction for the persistent thickheads who can't see the second division staring them in the face if we don't make changes pronto, and sacking JM will NOT be enough IMO.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 06:26:30
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 4 2008, 11:44 PM) [snapback]397232[/snapback]
do you really think youre going to get a reply from someone with a name like that? he's probably too busy getting bullied.

Keep up to date young man-I already had a reply about ten weeks ago which I posted on this site. I've written again to give him a gentle prod! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-05 06:28:08
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 5 2008, 12:12 AM) [snapback]397237[/snapback]
I already have his lunch money tongue.gif

Is he still around ? Haven't heard his name mentioned in quite a while. Once you've heard it you never forget it.

Kind of like the ones we stumbled across in work and I kid you not :-

Yu Fanny & Anel Blower (Mrs) Yes, she really must've had the first name Anel and decided to marry someone with the surname Blower. It beggers believe.

laugh.gif Wrong bowel vowel there Gash?
mortonjag 2008-02-05 06:30:49 It's just an exaggerated manifestation of the masochism which currently affects all fans of Greenock Morton.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 06:37:56
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Feb 5 2008, 02:42 AM) [snapback]397243[/snapback]
What difference does that make? A good player doesn't always make a good manager, and that is certainly true in Butchers case.

Personally, I'd much rather have someone with a semi-respectable track record in management who was a piss player than a guy who was a good player but has been a failure pretty much everywhere he's been the boss.

Like Hal Stewart? wink.gif

I see football management as a bit of a lottery-horses for courses if you like. Paul le Guen, for example had good credentials but failed at Ibrox. Bertie 'my boyse' Vogts is another good example. Then you get a man like Derek McInnes who's stepped straight into management and seems to be faring quite well.

I believe it's about the whole formula being right at a club, and that emanates from the Chairman and Board.

I guess we will never know how good or bad JM might have been in different circumstances.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 07:19:51
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Feb 5 2008, 07:06 AM) [snapback]397251[/snapback]
Exsqeeze me? Baking powder??

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mortonjag 2008-02-05 07:46:25 Thousands of patients will be surveyed about their experiences in hospitals and health centres in the largest scheme of its kind ever launched in Scotland. Details of a new centre to co-ordinate the polls and feed back the findings to the NHS were announced yesterday by Health Secretary Nicola Sturgeon.

The initiative should help address some of the issues that matter to people but are difficult to tackle through political targets.

The standard of hospital food, cleanliness of wards and the bedside manner of staff are among subjects which will be covered by the survey. Patients will also be asked if they were involved in decisions about their care and if their preferences were respected.
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During the next few years three key patient groups will be targeted by the questionnaires: people who have stayed in hospital as inpatients, people who have visited their GPs and people with long-term illnesses.

A minimum of 7000 patients will be surveyed as part of the inpatient section alone.

Charities have welcomed the programme, called Better Together, which is expected to cost £1.3m to run each year.

Ms Sturgeon, speaking during a visit to Stirling Royal Infirmary, said: "I am confident that this new national programme will lead to real improvements in the quality of local healthcare and patients' experiences."

The minister also unveiled a leaflet called "It's OK to Ask", which contains a series of prompts to help patients prepare for an appointment with a doctor or nurse.

It gives tips, such as writing down details of symptoms and any current medication in advance. It also suggests questions patients might want to pose during the appointment, such as: "How will I find out the results of the tests?"; "Does the treatment have any side effects?"; "And are there other ways to treat my condition?".

The leaflets will be available in hospitals and GP surgeries.

Ms Sturgeon said: "The patient-friendly leaflets and information I am also unveiling today are further demonstrations of our commitment to creating a mutual NHS in which patients and members of the public fully participate. It's OK to Ask is the kind of innovative development we will see more of thanks to the patient experience programme."

A spokeswoman for Age Concern in Scotland said most people were apprehensive about going into hospital and it was important to make the experience as comfortable as possible. She welcomed the surveys and said giving patients more information ahead of any treatment was important.

However, she added: "Clearly the most important message is there must be a mechanism within a hospital where older people know from the outset who to speak to if there is a problem."

Maddy Halliday, Scotland director of the Stroke Association, said: "We warmly welcome the Scottish Government's new research initiative into patient experience of the NHS as experience internationally shows that regular research into patients' views and experiences helps to inform and improve care for all patients.

"The Stroke Association hopes that the programme will regularly seek the views of people at risk of stroke or who have survived a stroke as it is the third-greatest cause of death in Scotland and one of the most significant causes of disability."

The centre co-ordinating the patient experience surveys and findings will be run by PricewaterhouseCoopers. It will work in conjunction with NHS boards (from today's 'Herald')





Does this stupid woman have no vision and no conscience? The grass roots in the N.H.S know bloody well when patients are happy or otherwise. A vastly expensive and self perpetuating beaurocracy of managers, administrators and committees regularly baulks the most rudimentary improvements, insisting on conformity and accountability.

Much time and effort are already spent producing reams of paperwork to justify their existence, the actual delivery of care suffering substantially in consequence, yet we now get this toothless bulldog at huge expense to the taxpayer.


'We asked 100 patients what they thought about their vasectomies under local anaesthetic................................Our survey said...............



OUCH


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mortonjag 2008-02-05 08:42:45
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Feb 5 2008, 08:26 AM) [snapback]397256[/snapback]
I'm still not convinced about Jimmy Cowan's boot.
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Yeah-I'm puzzled too-firstly I'd like to know why he only had one boot-was it for his right or left foot, or was it tailor-or rather-cobbler made to fit both, and what did he wear on the bootless tootsies during a match.
I always believed there were two of them, cos' my dad used to say of modern goalies-'He's not fit to lace Jimmy Cowan's boots', and my dad was seldom wrong.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 08:53:01
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 5 2008, 08:45 AM) [snapback]397261[/snapback]
Sorry mate, but has to be in the running for Most Ironic Post Of The Year given your signature !!!!

For me, The Feeling are just another bland example of the commercial pish we've been subjected to in the last few years. The Feeling, The Killers, The Kooks, The Klaxons, The Arctic Bástard Monkeys, The Whatever Your Having Yourself - same music genre, different name.

Last time I was impressed by a band (and it wasn't yesterday) was when I first heard Kasabian. Although I grudgingly admire The Pigeon Detectives as well.

TonInDublin



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What will they think of next I wonder?


What's wrong with nice meaningful names like The Dave Clark Five?


'Pigeon Detectives'-I ask you!!!

Oh well I'm just going to form my own wee band-I think I'll call it the 'C*ckatiel Counterspies'.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 09:03:14
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Feb 5 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]397265[/snapback]
Wot a load of s***e.

So ur saying if any Morton fans leave early than they are like Old Firm fans? Some of ur posts are truly baffling and idiotic!!

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Anyway, I never used to leave before the end of a match. That's the honest truth, but this season I've done so on three separate occasions. I've seen the Ton come back from being three nil down to the Tims at Scapa, and being denied a winning goal by the final whistle. I always used to keep the faith 'til the bitter end, but on Saturday when Queens got the second goal I just KNEW it was curtains.

That's what it's come to, I'm afraid. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-05 09:06:23
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 5 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]397266[/snapback]
Aye, that would be Willie Johnston - he was in the Doonhamer, which is a local cafe/bistro, on Saturday morning as usual, always meet him in there when I'm having my breakfast while my son is at his school football practice.

I like the thirties/forties bit!! Although a borders twang I don't have, still got my Greenock accent after all these years.

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Trust you to rectify my English composition!
mortonjag 2008-02-05 10:04:52
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Feb 5 2008, 09:20 AM) [snapback]397273[/snapback]
I'm thinking about getting one of them, wonder what my response will be?? ohmy.gif

As an aside, she really is an ugly boot.

Unfit to lace Jimmy Cowan's even! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-05 10:07:44
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 5 2008, 09:44 AM) [snapback]397276[/snapback]
Talented budgie tongue.gif

Twas the tweetest tablet I ever tasted Weegie, and he could render the 'Hallelujah Chorus' in ragtime while perching on one of his balls!
mortonjag 2008-02-05 10:11:04
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 5 2008, 09:14 AM) [snapback]397270[/snapback]
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Wakes got a Roddy Hutchinson look about him, doesnt get pushed off the ball as easily as Sanny or Leafy, stands his ground and gets in amongst it. Thats what we've lacked this season, a bit of DIG. Since our first league game against Clyde it was apparent this league was more physical. Silky fitba doesnt exist in this league. Your mate Shoogly and JM have taken to long to realise that.

I agree with that-we DO need more muscle up front, and that wold take attention off players like LEAFY! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-05 10:16:23
QUOTE(Mr.Kennedy @ Feb 5 2008, 09:59 AM) [snapback]397279[/snapback]
I know this, but I'm just saying, I didn't have a cold before the game...now I do. I'm guessing I caught it at the game (maybe someone coughed at me, I dunno) tongue.gif

Gentlemen-allow me to mediate-the common cold is caused by a virus with the winsome name of Coryza. There is a school of thought which claims that prolonged chilling or soaking can lower resistance to infection. In that sense you may be more susceptible to a cold in the circumstances described.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 10:19:20
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 5 2008, 10:10 AM) [snapback]397287[/snapback]
Ouch!!

FFS-have you just had that vasectomy too?
mortonjag 2008-02-05 10:37:17
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 5 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]397296[/snapback]
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Anyway are we ever going to find out? Was it a Ton player?

Douglas Rae in drag perchance?
mortonjag 2008-02-05 10:48:43
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 5 2008, 10:44 AM) [snapback]397307[/snapback]
Can't honestly remember leaving a game early even if we are playing crap. There's always the possibility of seeing a goal/penalty/contentious, incident before full time.

Oh the benefits of youth!!

Just wait 'til your prostate's the size of a cricket ball and you've forgotten the incontinence knickers-getting to that wee lavvy before the queue of Willy Watchers can sometimes be a joy beyond belief!
mortonjag 2008-02-05 10:51:56
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 5 2008, 10:47 AM) [snapback]397308[/snapback]
[attachment=3693:mrs.doubtfire.jpg]

One of the very few films I ever have watched more than once Weegie-give me a good old comedy any time, and Aye there is a certain resemblance to the Shooglemeister in there. maybe he missed his calling! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-05 10:56:07
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Feb 5 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]397310[/snapback]
We can make fun of Fundamentalist Christians all we want (and I admit it's fun sometimes), but you have to hand it to them....they don't call for a "Holy War" or the deaths of people when we do it.

That said, I recently received a link from a friend that rehashes the Mohammed pictures from a couple of years ago.

You decide....

I have a weak stomach Trick, and I won't look at the pictures.

Do you think that any form of fundamental religion deserves marks for performance?

Frankly I'd take every one of them and torture them within an inch of their lives, before offering them the choice of renunciation or a trip to the dog meat factory. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-05 10:59:01
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 5 2008, 10:56 AM) [snapback]397313[/snapback]
Maybe they go to the same hairdressers? laugh.gif

I don't think so- I'm sure Mrs Doubtfire has a coiffeur, while Mr Rae has often been seen coming out of the two bob Barber with a baldy and big cheeser!
mortonjag 2008-02-05 12:08:54
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Feb 5 2008, 11:51 AM) [snapback]397324[/snapback]
Thats whi i support the elderly on their quest to get ALL public toilets opened around the town. wink.gif

Indeed Gibby-it's an absolute disgrace-FFS they've even got baby changing facilities in Tesco-I'd have swapped one of mine thirty years ago if that had been on the go, but we elderly dribblers have to either buy expensive incontinence knickers, or confine our shopping sorties to a maximum of fifteen minutes.

I've been told they can even arrest you for quietly relieving yourself in the midddle of the Oak Mall! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-05 12:15:10
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 5 2008, 11:39 AM) [snapback]397320[/snapback]
I'm not criticising eehbah - just pointing out that one band would have sufficed rather than the five or ten we got !
It fills a gap in the market place and there's obviously demand for it - my young lad is mad into the Arctic Monkeys, but bands like The Teardrop Explodes, Echo and the Bunnymen and The Icicle Works (to name but three) were all doing it so much better twenty years ago.

I can listen to all of the bands quoted with no pain - I just choose not to.

This is where MJ comes in and tells us the Dave Clark 5, The Who, The Kinks et al did exactly the same 20 years before the bands I quoted !

And he's probably not far wrong.

TonInDublin

Ray Davies was brilliant-this is my all time Kinks favourite!!! The highlighted verse still makes me giggle!


I met her in a club down in old soho
Where you drink champagne and it tastes just like cherry-cola

C-o-l-a cola
She walked up to me and she asked me to dance
I asked her her name and in a dark brown voice she said lola
L-o-l-a lola lo-lo-lo-lo lola

Well Im not the worlds most physical guy
But when she squeezed me tight she nearly broke my spine
Oh my lola lo-lo-lo-lo lola
Well Im not dumb but I cant understand
Why she walked like a woman and talked like a man
Oh my lola lo-lo-lo-lo lola lo-lo-lo-lo lola

Well we drank champagne and danced all night
Under electric candlelight
She picked me up and sat me on her knee
And said dear boy wont you come home with me
Well Im not the worlds most passionate guy
But when I looked in her eyes well I almost fell for my lola
Lo-lo-lo-lo lola lo-lo-lo-lo lola
Lola lo-lo-lo-lo lola lo-lo-lo-lo lola

I pushed her away
I walked to the door
I fell to the floor
I got down on my knees
Then I looked at her and she at me

Well thats the way that I want it to stay
And I always want it to be that way for my lola
Lo-lo-lo-lo lola
Girls will be boys and boys will be girls
Its a mixed up muddled up shook up world except for lola
Lo-lo-lo-lo lola

Well I left home just a week before
And Id never ever kissed a woman before
But lola smiled and took me by the hand
And said dear boy Im gonna make you a man

Well Im not the worlds most masculine man
But I know what I am and Im glad Im a man
And so is lola
Lo-lo-lo-lo lola lo-lo-lo-lo lola
Lola lo-lo-lo-lo lola lo-lo-lo-lo lola
mortonjag 2008-02-05 12:18:03
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 5 2008, 12:16 PM) [snapback]397336[/snapback]
Ghosty's got an echo, echo.

I think it was Captain Catastrophe.

The ghost of Jimmy Cowan complete with one boot?
mortonjag 2008-02-05 12:22:13
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 5 2008, 12:14 PM) [snapback]397334[/snapback]
I think my neighbours are shagging again.

Very well might be up the chocolate starfish as I just heard her shout "Ow.. too far"

Hmm-do you know LCM's neighbours-starfish come in various hues!
mortonjag 2008-02-05 12:23:43
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 5 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]397339[/snapback]
Jimmy Cowan, the legendary one legged footballer. Todays equivalent is Kevin Finlayson laugh.gif

Amazing how he spins round opponents.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 13:10:09 Adam Coakley?
mortonjag 2008-02-05 13:18:50
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 5 2008, 01:15 PM) [snapback]397365[/snapback]
Does he?

I thought he was a central midfielder, he played there with Stranraer and any when he made his Gretna debut against us.

Maybe Jack was hoping JM would spot his post!!!!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-05 13:19:50
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 5 2008, 01:18 PM) [snapback]397368[/snapback]
Phil Cannie, Scott Bannerman, Alex Williams.

Andy McLaren anyone?

Stefan Gonet?
mortonjag 2008-02-05 15:30:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 5 2008, 01:42 PM) [snapback]397381[/snapback]
Posting something twice will only help that wink.gif

Btw I'm guesing it is quiet hard but it seems very obvious when you know who it is.

A wee clue....[b]they do have some sort of connection to Morton[/b] wink.gif

Is that 'they' singular or plural?

Ex player now in different field of endeavour?
mortonjag 2008-02-05 16:10:22
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 5 2008, 04:05 PM) [snapback]397440[/snapback]
Got to agree there mate. If we went down to the 2nd division we would be struggling to get 1500 let alone 2000 regardless of whether the team was full time or part time.

I agree-the larger crowds in the lower divisions were based on novelty, success, and the prospect of promotion. If we do nothing to sort out the current mess and end up relegated, any credibility Mr Rae has left will vanish like snow off a dyke.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 16:13:43
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Feb 5 2008, 04:05 PM) [snapback]397441[/snapback]
Surely if Jim has lost the dressing room he has to go?
I mean, if he cant find the dressng room what hope does he have? He'll have to go to DDF and say "Excuse me Mr Rae, but I could swear I had that dressing room here 5 minutes ago,maybe it in my other coat"
Think he should see a doctor...

...and Mr Rae will reply-Jim I know you spend most of your time elsewhere-I agreed to that- but you MUST remember the dressing room-you know-the place where I give you and my boys the team talks, and hand out the sweeties to my favourites!
mortonjag 2008-02-05 16:15:50 Hal Stewart's hat?
mortonjag 2008-02-05 16:17:24 Apparently they'll soon be building a new housing development on the site of the old Morton football park at Cappielow.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 16:32:53 The manager of a band?
mortonjag 2008-02-05 19:56:05
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Feb 5 2008, 04:43 PM) [snapback]397482[/snapback]
Oxymoronic is such a good word - and the above is such a good example of it. It appears to be a sweeping generalisation that DDF Rae has a "relative lack of money" - relative to who - Bill Gates, Donald Trump or even Mortonjag. Please define your terms Mortonjag.

Equally, in relative terms to most supporters and the trust, DDF is a relatively wealthy individual who has decided to "invest" well over £2 million of his company's money in a footbal club. That alone could get him the lost marbles accolade but only by those who neither understand or care about the passions involved in supporting a club like Greenock Morton.

So Shoogly is passionate about SUPPORTING Greenock Morton with his 'undefined' relative wealth! rolleyes.gif

If he's so impassioned I'd suggest very strongly that he's now skint, and that's definitive enough for me.

Those who very well 'understand and care about the passions involved in supporting the 'Ton', are frankly sick of his blinkered and self indulgent ego trip, which seems to have firmly hit the buffers.

Wealth, passion and looming relegation-a syndrome highly suggestive of a loss of those marbles, Neddy.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 20:04:41
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 5 2008, 06:36 PM) [snapback]397524[/snapback]
sorry MJ, i only read about half of your posts and gave up on your craig thomson (who is the only scottish referee to be invited to a european refereeing course in cyprus it said in the paper today) complaints after about the 2nd day tongue.gif

Probably though Omonia would be an alternative to a bag of glue.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 20:08:28
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Feb 5 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]397515[/snapback]
I may be wrong but for a full time club that is bollocks, although perhaps our performances would suggest this to be true.

I'm only repeating what's been quoted more than once-four 90 minute sessions per week.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 20:16:57
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 5 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]397588[/snapback]
you cant fault him for effort.

I know-all that driving must be a hell of a strain-in fact the Chairman was only recently suggesting that a similar burden was his reason for turfing big Sanny! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-05 20:20:55
QUOTE(Loveless @ Feb 5 2008, 07:09 PM) [snapback]397544[/snapback]
The west end is the only place worth living in. Outside of that try anywhere between Gourock and Largs, or Kilmacolm, and avoid Port Glasgow.

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One man's meat is another's poisson!
mortonjag 2008-02-05 20:27:18 It's half way between Coatbridge and Bellshill Willow-taxi from Bellshill station would take about three or four minutes.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 20:30:37 So what were the great man's thoughts on the current state of Greenock Morton?
mortonjag 2008-02-05 20:35:56
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Feb 5 2008, 08:21 PM) [snapback]397599[/snapback]
What's wrong with the West End? ohmy.gif

I didn't say there was ANYTHING wrong with it, but commenting that it's the only place worth living in is rather odd.

I've lived in the poshest parts of Renfrewshire and Glasgow, and also in several less fashionable areas, and in my experience those who think they inhabit 'the only place worth living in' are often a pain in the butt.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 20:42:12
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 5 2008, 08:39 PM) [snapback]397619[/snapback]
MJ has just upset several posters on this board, just for a change tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-02-05 20:51:17
QUOTE(Deego @ Feb 5 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]397621[/snapback]
Avoid Inverkip.

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mortonjag 2008-02-05 20:55:00
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 5 2008, 08:53 PM) [snapback]397623[/snapback]
Scottish First Minister Alex Salmond has threatened to resign if MSPs do not back his government's first budget.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7229224.stm

I say bring an election on !!

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mortonjag 2008-02-05 21:06:38
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 5 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]397628[/snapback]
Probably the thought of one useless election threatening to call another useless election.

TonInDublin

ps this chicken is rubbery.

Are you suggesting the First minister's a big dick TiD?
mortonjag 2008-02-05 21:10:25
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 5 2008, 08:58 PM) [snapback]397627[/snapback]
Wit you laffin at ow fella ?

Well let's put it this way-you're welcoming an election while you have chosen to totally ignore my earlier post about wee knickerless.

Her record is a classical example of the 'spend now-tax the mugs later' people-pleasing spin which has become the hallmark of this shower of nappy rashers.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 21:13:54
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 5 2008, 08:55 PM) [snapback]397625[/snapback]
In other words Deego's Kip tongue.gif

I always thought of Inverkip as a quaint little hamlet at the mouth of the Kip. Now I'm led to believe that any old Keegan or Deegan can abide therein.

What has become of us all? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-05 21:34:14 'Let him who is without sin throw the first stone'! laugh.gif

FFS the way you lot are talking I think I'll just go out and botch up a bank job. It's ages since I had a decent holiday.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 21:35:52
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 5 2008, 09:32 PM) [snapback]397633[/snapback]
Oh ye of little faith....your a rather negative, pessimistic person aren't you laugh.gif

Standard translation of 'Mortonjag is correct again' tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-05 21:42:43
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 5 2008, 09:37 PM) [snapback]397636[/snapback]
Baws.. more like mortonjag talks bollox again

I know very little about politics Haggis Heid, and I don't vote any more, but I can spot a spendthrift shower of greenhorns a mile away.

I was actually quite pleased when the 'Nats' got in-a change from years of Labour mismanagement, nepotism, and incest, I thought, but I'm now bitterly disappointed, and that wee knickerless one just 'does my tits in' with her crass ignorance of the real issues within the N.H.S
mortonjag 2008-02-05 22:19:00
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Feb 5 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]397641[/snapback]
Jag, one of the things that I have noticed about you is your ability to try to squash those who do not answer your direct questions - those who have the temerity to question the jag are ruthlessly hounded by the organ grinder and the monkey until they admit defeat or put you on ignore, or indeed just lose the will to live.

Up until now I was prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt - a sad bugger who constantly posts on this site with no social life but argues rationally for the things he believes to be wrong at Fortress Shoogly. However the above post shows that it may be your good self who has lost his small balls.

Perhaps I was wrong to assume that just because you had the GC accounts you would be able to understand them. Might I suggest that you look under the heading called bank - the figure in there would seem to indicate that he is far from skint.

As for looming relegation - I wonder who will be more right at the end of the season....

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Aha-so he's just a niggardly old miser then-a Golden Casket Lorelei, wooing those sad and impecunious Inverclyde fools with promises of wondrous prizes, while cackling evily in the vaults at Fort Matilda as he contemplates his vast wealth and their pathetic misery.

Is that it then Neddy? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-05 22:26:16
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 5 2008, 09:47 PM) [snapback]397640[/snapback]
You can only spend the pocket money that you are given. If your gonae be angry at anybody, then Maggie Broon is the wan that dishes out the pocket money.

And where, pray, does Ms Broon's money come from in the first place?

Anyhow, have you not heard of the 'Never never'-spend now and pay later-oh and if you can't just go bust! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-05 22:31:19
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Feb 5 2008, 10:16 PM) [snapback]397652[/snapback]
Have finally lost patience with the shocking broadband service I've had from Virgin Media - it rarely works!

I had heard good things about Tiscali, but when I went to their website it said you needed a BT line to move to them. It seems that if you're with Virgin Media it's not so easy to switch to other broadband providers??

Has anyone moved from Virgin to another provider? Any recommendations? Best value and most reliable? Not going to be dowloading loads, so don't need huge download capacity.

I've been delighted with Plus Net, and unless you're using cable or satellite, all broadband services require a BT line anyway. It has to be enabled for your new service provider. Virgin are obliged to release your MAC code to allow migration to another ISP. If you still have time left on your contract they can demand payment for that, but they cannot refuse to let you 'migrate'.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 22:46:33
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Feb 5 2008, 10:20 PM) [snapback]397655[/snapback]
Sounds more like a description of yourself. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Stopped laughing yet?

You're just a sad bugger from Staines-
The one with the seventeen weans
Yer Doc said-'Hey Jock
Put a lock on your c*ck'
But you poor c*nt -you hadn't the brains. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-05 22:53:02
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 5 2008, 10:49 PM) [snapback]397668[/snapback]
It comes from us, but Maggie would rather spend oor money on Trident, illegal wars and ID cards to name but a few.

Maggie is an evil man Claymore c**k-I'll grant you that-probably much more evil than our innocent little spendthrifts at Holyrood.

That in no way excuses their profligacy, and the chickens will inevitably come home to roost.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 06:33:31
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 6 2008, 12:43 AM) [snapback]397717[/snapback]
You probably didn't hear one fan complaining that day because we'd finally made it back to the 1st division after years out of it. After experiencing the huge lows of the failures at Airdrie, Stranraer and Peterhead I wanted to enjoy a championship win as I'm sure most others did. That didn't mean people didn't have reservations about how we achieved promotion or the way the club is being run.
What will be enough?

You should know better than to ask me that!!!

What point is there in sacking a manager who's probably done his best in very difficult circumstances?

Douglas Rae must appoint a manager who has total control of the playing side of things. If, as I suspect, he is incapable of doing that, we have to gamble on getting somebody who can beat him at his own game.

Such a man, if he exists, would undoubtedly move things forward quickly. Otherwise it will be more of the same.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 06:46:06
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Feb 5 2008, 11:03 PM) [snapback]397674[/snapback]
In this context most of us can claim to be able to throw that stone!
I know I have never committed a crime that would result in jail time, and I am in the same boat as most of the population when I say that.
Fancy a hand on that bank job?

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Paddy I actually agree that many a bad b*****d gets a relatively easy life in jail.

You also must remember miscarriages of justice, incarceration pending court appearances, and the all too frequent situation where imprisonment is a mere 'cop out' because our justice system is so Victorian.


His object all sublime
He will achieve in time —
To let the punishment fit the crime —
The punishment fit the crime;
And make each prisoner pent
Unwillingly represent
A source of innocent merriment!
Of innocent merriment!


One of the few sources of consolation for prisoners wrongly jailed or inappropriately bunged up, is being able to talk-getting things off the chest and sharing woes is often very effective therapy, even when it's not official counselling.

Bugging prisoners in their cells is a backward step IMO.


mortonjag 2008-02-06 06:50:58
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 5 2008, 11:12 PM) [snapback]397681[/snapback]
Maybe it would be better if we didn't send any of our money down to Maggie at all ?

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If we could keep it and use it for the general good that would be truly wonderful.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 06:59:18
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 6 2008, 12:08 AM) [snapback]397703[/snapback]
Purchasing Consultant or something similar.

SP are investing £3BN in the next 3 years in the UK and are now starting to recruit in order to handle this investment.

Apparently they're being extremely selective for my role so I don't know if that's the norm.

Are they good to work for ??

My partner's been with them for over ten years Willow. I'm sure you'll know they are now owned by the Spanish energy company Iberdrola.

Her take is that there's currently a snowballing rationalisation to try to make them more competitive. She thinks they are probably no better than most major employers-some good employee benefits etc., but a dreadful line management structure with the right hand and left hand often on a different body!!!

By the way-forget all those panic stories about Strathclyde Business Park. I know that area very well and can assure you it's only a mile or so from Bellshill town centre, or three minutes drive off the A8 Shawhead interchange (Coatbridge/Bellshill)
mortonjag 2008-02-06 07:10:24 So it's that time again Mr E
Keep smiling and soon you will C
It's not all cups of T
And problemsome P
Just busy yourself like a B

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mortonjag 2008-02-06 07:14:45
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Feb 5 2008, 11:00 PM) [snapback]397673[/snapback]
i have never had any probs with virgin(chose em coz im a cheapskate), but it might have something to do with where you stay because i have heard a lot of people complain about virgins service, but the most i have ever had to do is reboot my modem and i usually get pretty decent speeds with them.

regards to other providers, folk i know who are into doing a lot of downloading/online gaming etc (eg stuff that really requires a great connection) recommend pipex

I'm led to believe that the speed is ultimately a function of the efficiency of individual exchange lines.

BTW does anybody use a programme called Onspeed?
mortonjag 2008-02-06 08:35:59
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Feb 6 2008, 08:12 AM) [snapback]397743[/snapback]
we weren't actually that excited...ive met far more famous people than that... such as orville the duck and trojan out of gladiators laugh.gif

we just thought it would make for an interesting 6 page thread which would get a few grumpy c***s backs up tongue.gif seems like we were right...makes a change from the usual "what are you listening to?" "whats your favourite film?" "whats your favourite chocolate bar?" threads

laugh.gif I think the said c*nts were grumpy because the clues were rather unimaginitive Thrax! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-06 09:07:48
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 6 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]397746[/snapback]
Since Eck has got into political bed wie Annabel and the tories to cut a deal on the budget there's no worries is there?

Eck's tartan tories, I'm really warming to the fella.

Dream team anyone?

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDAuditioning for the back row of the Muppets.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 09:21:00
QUOTE(tontastic @ Feb 6 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]397749[/snapback]
Looks like any advice i could have offered on transport has already been provided ... only thing i would add is that even by car the journey can be a nightmare ... you have the Kingston Bridge to take care of ... then the hassles of EuroCentral which can become snarled up. Obviously this all depends if it is a 9-5 job or shifts or flexi-time, as the journey could be easy enough if you could do it off-peak. Another assumption here is that you stay in Inverclyde and would not be moving that way if this is a permanent role.

Possible to leave at St. James' and use the old A 726 in through the periphery of E Kilbride-it's bound to be busy too, but probably not log jammed like the Kingston bridge.
As you say it depends entirely on start and finish times.That can also be accomplished without Tom Tom!
mortonjag 2008-02-06 09:58:06 A marmite is a French stock pot or cooking pot—like the one pictured on the front of the jar and shaped somewhat like the jar itself. The name of the French pot is pronounced "mar-MEET." The product name may have been derived from a famous French soup, petite marmite.


That stuff tastes nothing like soup, but it is nourishing.

Lovely on oatcakes with a thin sliver of mature cheddar on top.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 10:00:40
QUOTE(tontastic @ Feb 6 2008, 09:54 AM) [snapback]397755[/snapback]
So ... at this point in the season there are a range of views as far as how Morton are performing. There are calls for the manager's head ... a change of Chairman, for the team to show more dedication/guts etc. Others are pointing to the first time in this league for some time, and we should be more realistic etc.

All of that aside .... two part poll. If we could end the season tomorrow and you could choose the *lowest* position that you would be truly happy/contented/acceptive of, what would it be? I am suggesting that this is the lowest position that you would be able to look a player or the manager in the eye and say "Well Done".

And of course ... to measure where people then think we will end up ... the second question is where you think we will end up.

What's the point of the poll? i'd be interested to know how many folk would be happy to end the season in 3rd place, safe from relegation. I'd be interested to know how many people think we can climb the league to mid table or above. I'd be interested to know how many people think we are doomed to relegation.

Looks like great mind think alike-I predicted seventh at the start of the season, but will settle for third bottom.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 10:49:23
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 6 2008, 03:04 AM) [snapback]397729[/snapback]
The novelty of playing Cowdenbeath, Alloa, Peterhead, Forfar, Stirling and so forth wore off very quickly unless you've forgotten.

How could I-but success and the prospect of getting out of that mess persisted-SURELY we don't want to go back to THAT? sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-06 10:49:52
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 6 2008, 10:07 AM) [snapback]397759[/snapback]
Aye, for Neilston.

His home town.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 10:52:03 I'm presuming you mean the Clyde game.

I don't think JM will go of his own accord while his contract is still running.

As always, the future of GMFC will lie in the hands of one man.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 11:03:55
QUOTE(dazed @ Feb 6 2008, 10:38 AM) [snapback]397764[/snapback]
I hope the budget gets through as if it is not, then it would be an act of pettyness by the oposition,
however if it does not then I do not fear an election as I believe the SNP will be returned in far greater numbers.
I hope the people of Scotland are spared that as I think they are scunnered with the frequency of elections these days.

To take THE 1979 scenario when the SNP were blamed for bringing down the labour government (in fact it was also due to other parties refusing to back the Labourites , a fact that has been conveniently masked in the mists of time to suit Labour propaganda purposes) altough I still think they were wrong to do this, I remember Callaghan saying "its like the Turkeys voting for an early christmas" this would equally apply to Labour and the rest of their unionist cronies in the present day.

Also the little pic of Alex Salmond and Annabel Goldie inferring they would be political soulmates, I would merely draw to your attention the fact that Wendy Alexander,and Nicol Stephen got into bed with her first by forming their wee unionist clique and meeting in London to discuss ways of attacking the SNP!

If ever there was a case of if I dont get my way (loosing a democratic election)then Im not playing, then that was it!

The SNP tartan tories dont make me laugh! That mantle firmly belongs to Wendy and her cohorts!

Wendy is a tool of the highest order, but at least she's an experienced tool!

This is the latest offering from wee Knickerless!!!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Sturgeon makes £270m pledge to cut NHS waiting times by 50%

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA f***IN' HA

Throwing money at the NHS has NEVER really improved anything, If she wants to make a name for herself she should be addressing the wedge of bureaucracy between government and service delivery.

She won't of course, as they are all in the same big incestuous wheel.

Just a wee girl playing at wee hooses. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-06 11:08:50
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 6 2008, 11:00 AM) [snapback]397773[/snapback]
Once again Mr Jag you are indeed a font of all knowledge. I feel as though i have learned something today and it's not even lunch yet. Thank you biggrin.gif

Pleasure Weegie, and for all those nasty posters who think I sit all day dribbling into a hanky and catheter bag, I'm busy re-decorating the bathroom. Anybody got new ideas for cleaning old grout-I can't be arsed hacking it all out and re-grouting!
mortonjag 2008-02-06 11:11:12
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 6 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]397774[/snapback]
Happy bithday sir. Remember to find an appropriate place on the mantlepiece for the telegram.

May I congratulate you and wish you and Greenock Morton Football Club many happy returns of this day.


Betty.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 11:13:23
QUOTE(foxy @ Feb 6 2008, 11:06 AM) [snapback]397777[/snapback]
Dont go to Tiscali, apart from them having non UK call centre their service is awful.
I signed up for broadband & evening/weekend call package - which i never got as stated.
The broadband was perfect - unlimited downloads but all by calls got charged through BT even though i continuosly contacted tiscali to tell them, after my year was up i cancelled which was June 07.
they have now sent me letters saying i owe them money & have passed my details to a debt agency
Bloody cheek of them

Plus Net have a dedicated service team based down south. Their feedback is fast and helpful. I rarely enthuse about any service, but theirs takes some beating, AND they are very cheap to use.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 12:03:47
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 6 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]397800[/snapback]
grouting pens work well! sell them in homebase for a couple of quid, then MJ can get back on the board with all his useful knowledge! laugh.gif

I wondered about those-the grout's not really that old-the flat's only four, and only a few bits are unacceptably stained-I might try some of those home made cleaners first. Have you actually used the pen, and does it work as well as your three legged pigs? wink.gif

BTW I haven't forgotten to try a quadruped next time I'm hungry.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 12:23:07
QUOTE(Yoda @ Feb 6 2008, 12:18 PM) [snapback]397810[/snapback]
Tried one of those once - spent two days drawing wee lines all the way round the bathroom, still wasn't happy with the results. After consulting with the other half at the time decided to re tile. He found a munro to bag urgently that weekend so was unavailable for the destruction! Any hoo got out the bolster and mallet and started to remove the tiles - to discover they were actually sheets of those pretend plastic tiles you know nine wee square tiles on a sheet. The previous owners had put them up instead!

And the thick award goes to????? ME laugh.gif

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I was once bricking up an old fireplace, and after I finished I sat down, for a wee refreshment --all chuffed with the result.

It was only the next day when I started the plastering that I realised I'd left three or four good quality tools behind those bloody bricks! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-06 12:26:09 I don't like the Bendy one D & C-and I know a wee bit about her private life too!

Does wee knickerless know what she's doing or will the promised halving of waiting times become known sarcastically as Sturgeon's Row?

Mind you those Holyrood wannabes know all about caviare and canapes I'll bet! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-06 12:29:18
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 6 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]397802[/snapback]
always trying to excuse themselves because they know they are glory hunting bigots. some common and not so common ones i've heard include

i support who my family supports

it's in my blood

i like to watch good football

i used to support morton but they sold all their best players

i come from the "port of glasgow" so support a glasgow side

my family are irish

i want to watch a team that wins things

all my mates are celtic/rangers fans

you wouldn't understand the atmosphere as you support a wee team
we're "the best fans in the world"

i'm a catholic

i'm a protestant

any more weird and wonderful excuses out there?

p.s. i'm just particularly annoyed having read a thread on p and b - how annoying is it when o.f. firms try to take some personal kudos for their team doing well. mad.gif

I support one of the old firm because....................






























































I hate those .......c*nts! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-06 13:01:06
QUOTE(Yoda @ Feb 6 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]397823[/snapback]
Continuing on the thick theme - but more marmite related -

Years ago my Mum, Dad and Aunt and Uncle were out for a night out at the dog racing. On their return to oor hoose, my Mum decided to make everyone a hot chocolate.

Now it should be pointed out that she'd had a couple of whiskys and didn't and still doesn't take a drink very well or very often.

So milk pan on and hot chocolate and sugar in the cups she hands everyone a cup of steaming hot cocoa, just the thing after a cold night at the dog track you'd think? Not when it's made with bisto!!! She'd got the cartons mixed up - we had an outside loo at the time there was a mad scramble for the loo key and the front door...... Funnily enough it put everyone right off marmite and bovril.....

Ah Bisto! So called, apparently, because it Browns It, Seasons, and Thickens in One. I remember my dad who would now be 88, telling me how he and his sister went out at Halloween dressed as 'The Bisto Kids'!

Anyway-I've got work to do! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-06 13:49:20
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 6 2008, 01:07 PM) [snapback]397826[/snapback]
RACIST! I call shenanigans!

You're worse! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-06 13:55:36
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 6 2008, 01:34 PM) [snapback]397836[/snapback]
I do think if we went down there would be a fair bit of resentment towards DDFR . Whether you feel he should have replaced the manager , kept his nose out of the dressing room or ensured we had a better squad from the summer .
I don't know how fans would feel at the prospect of competing with the likes of East Fife again . I do think as a club we have always looked as though we were going in the right direction ( even though progress to the 1st was stalled) so with that dented maybe we would lose a sense of belief with Dougie nd his decisions .

Correct Chris-we've been told ad nauseam that it's HIS money, HIS stadium, and HIS squad, and that we've no business asking questions as he can do exactly what he pleases.

Well, that being the case, it's now HIS f*ck up. He signed JM, and who knows whom else into the bargain! HE's made all the decisions and only one man is ultimately answerable for our current predicament. HIM.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 14:00:28
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 6 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]397831[/snapback]
hey hawd on a minute i never said it was a pig - it was a baked tottie! you turned it into a pig!

and it worked for me! anyway back to he grouting pens, it worked for me, but then im female and i read the instructions correctly - something a man never does! tongue.gif

You are so wrong my dear-I always read the instructions if all else fails!
mortonjag 2008-02-06 14:04:27
QUOTE(El gofer @ Feb 6 2008, 01:49 PM) [snapback]397841[/snapback]
Re. the post earlier saying the West end is "the only place to live".

I left there last year having lived there for 21 years. It has many of the same problems as other areas.

I have just moved to the Port and I think its a great place to live.

West end is somewhere that is over rated IMHO.

Signed, A former resident.

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I agree with you-the most welcoming place I've ever inhabited was Partick-not very fashionable but much more cosmopolitan than you'd imagine, and beats the Mearns, and Hyndland (where I've also lived) hands down IMO.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 14:06:32
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Feb 6 2008, 02:05 PM) [snapback]397850[/snapback]
:-P what are all the good catholic boys on here giving up for lent.

Ill go wi the old faithful "sweeties" smile.gif

hee hee! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-06 14:09:18
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Feb 6 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]397848[/snapback]
i like celtic cause im a glory hunting bigot! rolleyes.gif there....howd you like them apples :-P

I like Rangers 'cos I'm British! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-06 14:14:04
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Feb 6 2008, 02:09 PM) [snapback]397853[/snapback]
ohmy.gif BIGOTRY!!!! STONE THE HEATHEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Tell you a story Thrax-my old Mum was maybe just a wee bit bigoted-well she was certainly a 'dyed in the wool' Proddy, and when we were weans, she was always going on about Catholics not being quite the business!

Then, when I was about twelve, she became 'bosom buddies' with the lady across the road, whom we all knew was a Catholic.

I couldn't understand, and when I asked her to explain, she replied--'There are SOME good Catholics, you know! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-06 15:42:16
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 6 2008, 03:24 PM) [snapback]397880[/snapback]
At least Tonsilitis is big enough to own up to his mistakes and not just keep quiet until things improve .
Quite a few have changed opinions it isin't illegal . I am far more worried about those who still do not acknowledge the plight we are in .

I always knew you were really Saint Christopher!

WORRIED!!! laugh.gif

Let them drown slowly in Golden Casket faeces.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 15:44:09
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Feb 6 2008, 02:58 PM) [snapback]397877[/snapback]
hahaha thats a belter of a story. Im a good catholic smile.gif

You must be one of my Mummy's SOME!!!
mortonjag 2008-02-06 16:12:59
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 6 2008, 03:55 PM) [snapback]397889[/snapback]
Intend not to have any white carbs if I can avoid it - potatoes, white bread, pasta, rice etc.

Breakfast today was soda bread and a boiled egg, lunch was poached salmon and runner beans.
I'm fúcking Hank and starting to see people as walking Sliced Whites I swear to jaysus.

Bollocks of a racket altogether.

TonInDublin

No need to bin the tatties TiD-they don't come into the bad CHO league like pappy bread. Make yourself a huge big Baked Tattie a la 'On the Piss'! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-06 20:52:12
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 6 2008, 07:18 PM) [snapback]397987[/snapback]
I remember praying before bed when I was wee. Was more like making a list to Santa "I pray I get a new bike and hunners o' sweeties!"

Perhaps it was the lack of bike and curly wurlys that destroyed my faith smile.gif

Was your faith restored when you developed curly wurlys and met the local bike?
mortonjag 2008-02-06 20:54:11
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 6 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]398012[/snapback]
Since Damien's murder last July the place has been cleaned up massively and is now as good as Ned free rolleyes.gif
I did however hear that a girl was attacked at the w/end whilst using the phone box at the cemetery gates, anyone hear any more about this 'Alleged Incident' ??

Black humour in there somewhere Willow!
mortonjag 2008-02-06 21:18:56
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 6 2008, 06:06 PM) [snapback]397950[/snapback]
The reason I asked is because I'm unsure what you think the solution is?

Do you think Douglas Rae should sell up (are there concrete offers from reputable businessman with the clubs interests at heart)? Do you think he should stand down and let Crawford take over? Do you think he should appoint a managing director or director of football to take over the football side of things outside the managers remit. Or would appointing a no nonsense manager be enough.

I disagree that someone working under Douglas Rae is 'very difficult circumstances'. Working under Hugh - Scott is working under very difficult circumstances, working under Vladimir Romanov is very difficult circumstances. Working at Clyde or at part-time teams lower down where there is no money for wages never mind transfer fees is very difficult circumstances.

I think most managers would kill for a chairman willing to pay: �100,000 plus for McGowan; �80,000 for Templeman; �50,000 for Williams; �40,000 for Russell; �30,000 for Weatherson; �15,000 for Linn and �11,000 for McAnespie - even if the chairman has to have a bit of a say on who the money is spent on.

Don't get me wrong, the club is not being run the way I'd like to see it run. The commercial side is a bit of a joke with potential revenue failing to be maximised. The youth set up is a total joke. I don't like the way the Chairman is rumoured to enter the dressing room and undermine his manager. I don't like the way he makes comments criticising the players publicly. I don't like the way he compares Celtic fans favourably with Morton fans. I don't like labels like the 'negativity boys' or the 'rag of a website'. I don't like the way he has to be in control or involved in all things coming out of Morton.

There's a lot I don't like about the way the chairman is running the club but I don't think McInally has had to work under 'very difficult' circumstances. Annoying circumstances maybe but not enough to take away the blame for our poor season.

All of the points you've made are valid.

I've previously made it clear that ideally I'd like Rae to take a sidestep and enjoy the rest of his time at Cappielow in an Honorary capacity, by devolving full control to a salaried director of football.

I've no idea how competent Crawford would be-given FULL control, and nobody seems to know much about the mysterious Mr Donald, and where he fits the big picture.

Now back to your main point of issue with my post.

Jonaton-have you ever worked under a boss like Rae-have you any clue as to the psychological trauma suffered by folks who feel trapped in a job-perhaps too weak to walk away, and constantly convincing themselves that 'it's better the devil you know'?

What must it feel like to be the 'gaffer', when you ultimately have to justify every tiny decision to a man with not a clue about how to do your job?

There's a hell of a lot more to being a happy football manager than just getting a few pennies to spend on players whom the Chairman has given the nod to, if not actually picked himself.

I think the nearest JM ever got to going public on that was when Rae was determined to spend EVEN MORE on Gowsa, when we could have had two or three others for his £100k.

For most people, job satisfaction has a hell of a lot to do with fulfilling personal interactions in the workplace.

That is why I can say with complete confidence that he has been working 'under very difficult circumstances'.

Before I get the backlash from the usual myopic fools who can't see that supporting Rae is now HAMPERING Morton, it would be extremely interesting to hear of one single poster who works with, or has worked with the Shooglemeister, and disagrees with those comments.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 21:35:35
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 6 2008, 06:37 PM) [snapback]397969[/snapback]
I think it's getting to a breaking point now and defeat against Clyde will make the pressure on him unbearable.

Douglas Rae hasn't even hinted at sacking him or made comments putting him under pressure (e.g. we need to start picking up points etc) and has recently allowed him to make a few signings in the transfer window. For that reason I don't think he will sack him before the end of the season.

The only way out would be to resign. For me it will be that or he'll be here until the end of the season.

Rightly or wrongly it appears to me that Rae has lost the plot. IF he had an untarnished view of reality, I believe JM would be gone long ago. He probably sits pondering our lack of success, falling gates, and discontent among the fans, and is totally incapable of taking any of the blame himself. Perhaps he secretly prays that we are just about to turn the corner, and anyway, where else would he get another manager so compliant as the ineffectual JM, who will ultimately do as the 'whipping boy' if all else fails.

Rest assured, the minute Shoogly actually sees his credibility is slipping-McInally will be gone faster than a poke of quarter pounders.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 21:38:03
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 6 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]398047[/snapback]
I believe McInally has turned to a new tactic , he has converted the whole squad into Roman Catholics.

During lent all the players have abstained from losing rolleyes.gif

Pardon my ignorace, but how long does Lent last? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-06 21:41:41
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 6 2008, 09:22 PM) [snapback]398041[/snapback]
This is getting ridiculous MJ. How could you possibly know this if you are only watching from the stands like the rest of us?

I did not claim to know anything-I asked a legitimate question, and I await an answer from hundreds of Rae's adoring employees past and present! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-06 22:16:46
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 6 2008, 09:57 PM) [snapback]398055[/snapback]
Until easter tongue.gif

Do you think the Ton are about to rise again?
mortonjag 2008-02-06 22:21:33
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Feb 6 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]398062[/snapback]
I agree that the Gibby, Branchton, Larkfield, Bow Road etc; are all becoming nicer places to live. Unfortunately a wad of their former tenants now reside in the "West End" and it's turning into a Ghetto sad.gif

Tell them to ghetto f*ck!
mortonjag 2008-02-06 22:23:18
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 6 2008, 10:16 PM) [snapback]398064[/snapback]
A vegan who eats fish once a week is not a vegan ?? Thats a cop out

A good Catholic vegan perchance? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-06 22:43:02 I just had to find that wee ditty Greacen! wink.gif

Today I arose at 5.45 a.m.

Shower and shave.

Printed off Herald crossword and completed in 11 minutes

Made breakfast for the Monkey and his mummy (porridge today made properly with oatmeal soaked overnight).

Ran the Monkey's mummy to work.

Played some happy tunes on my guitar cos' the sun was shining-'here comes the sun' etc.

Spent most of the day re-decorating the bathroom

Filled up the car with petrol and checked tyre pressures.

Picked up the Monkey's mummy from work.

Now I appreciate that that's not a lot, but FFS I am retired, and I worked my baws off doing 60 and 70 hour weeks for years on end.

Oh, and I forgot, I spent a wee bit of time on this forum.

Gracious Greacen-that's 14.000 posts.


Well I never-time for another ditty from your goodself? wink.gif

mortonjag 2008-02-06 22:49:02
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 6 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]398070[/snapback]
Given the prospect of putting cushy job and all its accompliments it ws a sure fire beat that MSP's like Dunky the monkey wouldn't put his gravy train at risk .


PLEASE!

Don't you mean McNeill the eel?
mortonjag 2008-02-06 22:52:30
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Feb 6 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]398083[/snapback]
Match days only I guess, but then the Training Ground is in Renfrewshire. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

The training ground is not - oh wise one of many w**k Staines.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 22:55:20
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Feb 6 2008, 10:53 PM) [snapback]398086[/snapback]
Good answer, and i bet a few of them are from out of town

In our wee ghetto up here a large number are from 'out of country'! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-06 23:06:42
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 6 2008, 11:01 PM) [snapback]398089[/snapback]
The SNP / Tory alliance was sickening enough but the gutless, disingenuous abstentions from the so called opposition was too much to stomach. This was not a good day for Scottish democracy.

Has something happened to spoil your day Mr Edwards? huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 06:33:56
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Feb 7 2008, 01:16 AM) [snapback]398114[/snapback]
This is very interesting. I'd happily contribute £100 to some sort of 'The Jag Plays ...' charity event. Upstairs at The Darroch would be a good venue I would have thought.

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If I had the confidence SH I'd happily ententain you, but it's the old story of a shy old c*nt hiding behind a keyboard.

That's in musical terms of course. Otherwise I'm well nigh perfect I guess. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 06:36:34
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 7 2008, 12:18 AM) [snapback]398106[/snapback]
I've always thought that Morton fans were world leaders.

lead welders.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 06:41:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 6 2008, 11:12 PM) [snapback]398091[/snapback]
Vegans don't eat fish (well, you know that anyway). And vegans or vegetarians don't need any pills to supplement their diets in order to stay healthy. A big fat healthy vegetarian like myself can testify to that. tongue.gif

Not true DE-veggies are very healthy people in general but fundamentalist vegans ultimately become very ill, lacking vitamins D, and B12, and omega 3 fatty acids.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 06:44:30 Many happy returns to another 'out of towner'!

BTW my first home when we got married was in Larbert.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 06:49:18
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 6 2008, 11:43 PM) [snapback]398101[/snapback]
Well what the feck do you expect from a player under McInally's management? Has any player, apart from the goalie, been granted a settled position in the side? The poor feckers don't know where they'll be told to play, (will they be full back, half back or left back on the fecking bench) come every fecking Saturday. And just what comes of all these 'ever changing' game plans? Feck all but the same old same old, i.e. lump it up the park to the target man.

Was that harsh, Mentaljag, harsh, would you say? biggrin.gif

laugh.gif

Not in any way Mr Edwards, and in any case you are more than twice his age and perfectly entitled to say anything you please-like all intelligent posters over the age of sixty.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 06:51:40
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 7 2008, 01:05 AM) [snapback]398113[/snapback]
You must be about my age then as that's the gaffer's that have been in charge since I began watching the club.

I rate McInally bottom of the pile. dry.gif

I rate Shoogly as a pile on Morton's bottom.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 06:57:17
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 7 2008, 12:26 AM) [snapback]398108[/snapback]
That's not really a question though, is it? If it is it's a rhetorical one and it seems to me you're stating that McInally has to justify every decision to Rae, which is very bold of you.

Been in the dressing room and witnessed this first-hand, have you?

I'm not saying you're right or wrong either, but that's a wild suggestion even by your own (very eccentric) standards!

Listen Sonny boy-I have spent my whole life as a diagnostician-I've studied psychology,and am extremely interested in personal interactions and body language. Nothing I've ever said about Rae or JM has been entirely guesswork, and so far everything I've said seems to be coming true.

Furthermore I receive regular p.m.'s from other board members who for one reason or another want me to know that I'm on the right track, and I have evidence to support my statements-evidence which is confidential.

Oh and I've spent my whole life practising confidentiality too! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 07:02:35
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 7 2008, 01:19 AM) [snapback]398115[/snapback]
I must've missed your post(s) on the director of football. Do you have anyone in mind? This is a topic that came up on our bus to an away game this season and Warren Hawke's name was mentioned.

I doubt I've ever worked under a boss like Rae but then again I don't know what kind of boss he really is.

I honestly don't think the relationship between Douglas Rae and Jim McInally is like you think. I don't think he has to justify everything to Rae, although maybe Rae wants to know everything - a little bit different.

I don't think McInally is suffering any psychological trauma or too weak to walk away from his job. I think McInally is probably, at worst, frustrated with the chairman.

He's a man in his mid forties with a mortgage, a family to support, and little prospect of a better salary elsewhere.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the poor bugger wishes he was a million miles away from Rae and the sinking S.S. Shoogly, but let's face it, we all strive desperately to maintain our acquired social status, often at huge personal cost.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 07:05:04
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 7 2008, 06:59 AM) [snapback]398127[/snapback]
By that measure you're not entitled (D.O.B. 25/12/2006), unless of course you are the messiah come again.
Messiah, eh? Come again?

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The programme would not accept 25/12/0000 DE-you are the first to have clocked my mischief!
mortonjag 2008-02-07 07:09:59
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 7 2008, 01:25 AM) [snapback]398116[/snapback]
After seeing most of the teams in the first quarter of the season and how poor the standard of this division is I thought we'd finish in the top half.

I still think a decent manager would be able to achieve that with the squad of players we have.

I was enjoying the first couple of months of the season FAR better than last year's painful grind-even games where we didn't get full points but acquitted ourselves well.

I know there's not been disruption on the scale of the alleged betting scam, but there's 'something rotten in the State of Denmark' down Scapa way. A new manager might be just enough short term, but it's vital surgery that's needed soon if we are to move forward.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 07:48:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 7 2008, 07:12 AM) [snapback]398131[/snapback]
And I am 57. The truth is so dull, don't you think.

At that age you should be full of beans of a certain variety!
mortonjag 2008-02-07 07:55:48 This is a real thought provoking thread, if ever there was one-why do folk enjoy foisting their tastes on others?

That's something I couldn't bring myself to do for all the chi in Tina.

When I was a youngster and music was music, I used to listen to Harry Lauder on the wind up gramophone.

Right now I'm listening to Radio Scotland-it's quite good sometimes.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 09:33:46
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 7 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]398140[/snapback]
You really have to wonder how these clowns governed for 8 years, especially after yesterday's debacle ?

Plus ca change Thistle thumbs! wink.gif


Don't you love farce? My fault I fear.

I thought that you'd want what I want - sorry my dear.

But where are the clowns? Quick, send in the clowns.

Don't bother, they're here. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 10:30:05
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 7 2008, 09:45 AM) [snapback]398143[/snapback]
Very nice, where you singing that whilst typing ? laugh.gif

It's haunting wee choon which I first heard at a concert in Bellshill Academy-the singer-a seventeen year old called Sheena Orr!

No bloody Nat though-went to the States and ended up spoiling herself! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 10:32:23
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Feb 7 2008, 09:52 AM) [snapback]398145[/snapback]
well since you asked nicely, heres one just for you MJ... based on the classic "how soon is now?" by the smiths

I am the son
and the air
Of a penchant for the criminally boring
I am the son and air
Of nothing in particular

You shut your mouth
How can you say
such awful things about Mcinally?
He is Human and he needs to be loved
Just like everybody else does

I am the son
and the air
Of 14000 posts that are criminally predictable
I am the son and air
Of nothing in particular

You shut your mouth
How can you say
such awful things about D.D.F. Rae?
He is Human and he needs to be loved
Just like everybody else does

There's a football club, if you'd like to go
You could maybe see the team really play well for you
So you go, and you stand in the terrace
And Morton get embarrased
And you go home
And you cry
And you want to die

When you say it's gonna happen now,
Well, when exactly do you mean?
See I've already waited too long
And all my hope is gone

I am Human And I need to be loved
Just like everybody else does

Well done!

I'll remind you again at 20,000! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 10:35:00
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 7 2008, 10:13 AM) [snapback]398147[/snapback]
Ha!

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Well if we're playing games---


1 rat Shoogly.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 10:36:15
QUOTE(franco @ Feb 7 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]398152[/snapback]
I think Salmond is just as worried. Otherwise he would have threatened to resign when he didn't get backing to implement his election pledge on holding a referendum. It appears at the moment that governing a devolved Scotland is more important to him than offering the Scottish people the chance to decide on independence.

All power corrupts.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 10:57:05 Money
And
Rae
Morton
In
Trouble
EH?
mortonjag 2008-02-07 11:32:50
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 7 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]398161[/snapback]
I dare you to get a modem router and try and follow the instructions without throwing them out the window and just doing it yourself.

In fact I double dare you.

Awaits response from Ravenscraig after trying to do so.

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I agree entirely-many's the time I've tried to understand those modern instructions with their 'idiot proof' diagrams, and ended up working it out for myself.

Tried building any Ikea self assembly furniture recently? mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 11:53:16
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Feb 7 2008, 11:33 AM) [snapback]398163[/snapback]
nice one. at your current rate, that should give me a good 2 weeks to think of some ideas

I think the Beatles' 'Yesterday' is a good one to parody. huh.gif

Yesterday, Morton's troubles seemed so far away-
Now it looks as though they're here to stay
Oh, I believe in yesterday

Suddenly, there's not half the men there used to be
They're all going elsewhere on a 'free'
Oh, yesterday came suddenly

Why Rae has to go, we all know, but some won't say
He's done something wrong, now I long for yesterday

Yesterday football was an easy game to play
Now the squad all want to hide away
Oh I believe in yesterday

Why Rae has to go, we all know, but some won't say
He's done something wrong, now I long for yesterday

Yesterday, love was easy won by Dougie Rae
Now I wish that man would go away
Oh I believe in yesterday. Mm.





mortonjag 2008-02-07 11:57:02
QUOTE(tondaft @ Feb 7 2008, 11:48 AM) [snapback]398164[/snapback]
totally agree. why the hell is j.m playing mclaughlin at a left back slot at times when he could easily have mcgregor there. i'd rather have mcgregor than harding or greacen any day
GET YIR FINGER OOT DDF
TTGJ

Disagree entirely-Davie needs time on the ball, and he's NOT that great in the air. He's a good competent all round footballer but IMHO hasn't the pace for the first division.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 12:45:47
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Feb 7 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]398168[/snapback]
simply beautiful. made me think of another pretty good Beatles one...

Can't buy me love, love
Can't buy me love

I'll buy you Alan Jenkins my friend if it makes you feel alright
I'll borrow Barry Smith my friend if it makes you feel alright
'Cause I don't care too much for money, money can't buy me love

I'll give you all I got to give if you buy my sweeties too
I may not have a lot to give but what I got I'll give to you
I don't care too much for money, money can't buy me love

Can't buy me love, everybody tells me so
Can't buy me love, no no no, no

Say you don't need no McMenemin's and I'll be satisfied
Tell me that you want the kind of players that money just can't buy
I don't care too much for money, money can't buy me love

Superb-that red line's a cracker!

This one doesn't need much changing!


Try to see it our way,
Do we have to keep on talking till we can't go on?
While you see it your way,
Run the risk of knowing that the Ton may soon be gone

We can work it out
We can work it out.

Think of what you're doing
You can get it wrong and still you think that it's alright.
Think of what we're saying
We can work it out and get it straight, or say goodnight.

We can work it out
We can work it out.

Life is very short and there's no time---
For bossing and griping my friend.
I have always thought that it's a crime---
So I will ask you once again

Try to see it our way,
Only time will tell if we are right or we are wrong
While you see it your way,
There's a chance that we might fall apart before too long.

We can work it out
We can work it out. sad.gif

mortonjag 2008-02-07 13:15:56 I once met a friend during Lent who was rather upset-he always wore his wee black spot-good Catholic that he was. Unfortunately he'd given up smoking that morning, and ended up having to borrow mascara from a colleague!
mortonjag 2008-02-07 14:24:30
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 7 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]398199[/snapback]
as a matter of fact i did - built a computer desk for my daughter 3 weeks ago and its still standing!

And as far as the modem router goes, i dont need to do that sort of thing, my brother does it for me!

That's a good start-try a chest of drawers next and you'll see what I mean! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 14:26:19
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 7 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]398189[/snapback]
Yahtzee!

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mortonjag 2008-02-07 14:34:42
QUOTE(centralTON @ Feb 7 2008, 02:25 PM) [snapback]398206[/snapback]
Thank you.
MJ, I was working in larbert this morning, it's become very expensive for property now, doubt you would recognise it, even the foundry has been knocked down and turned into a housing estate.
Missing my first home league game of the season on Saturday, tho', this isn't such a hardship as i will be in Prague, but, will be doing my best to keep updated with the score.

Our first home was a brand new 'Bell', subsequently 'Bellway', semi detached villa-two bedrooms, bathroom, lounge, kitchen, and single garage en suite-double glazed and centrally heated.

It cost us the princely sum of £7125.00!!!

I'm sure you can still spot it at 67 Doune Crescent.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 14:59:51
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 7 2008, 02:39 PM) [snapback]398210[/snapback]
Rejoice and hope that she goes on to lead Scottish New Labour for many, many years to come. smile.gif

http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/news/displ..._Commission.php

'However, the commission ruled that Ms Alexander had failed to take "all reasonable steps" to make sure all donations to her campaign were legal. However, they said she did take "significant steps"'

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ph34r.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 16:13:35
QUOTE(Edinton @ Feb 7 2008, 03:44 PM) [snapback]398219[/snapback]
Thank cod for that, I thought you were starting to flounder. Bring back the puns!

Is this the plaice for them?
mortonjag 2008-02-07 16:14:07
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 7 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]398213[/snapback]
Next time you're stopped for speeding then, just say....

'I'm sorry Officer but I think you'll find that although I may not have taken all reasonable steps to ensure I wasn't speeding I did however take significant steps, therefore I'll bid you a good day and be on my way.'

wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 17:29:09
QUOTE(Edinton @ Feb 7 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]398242[/snapback]
Why not, even just for the halibut.

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We can have a whale of a time, but we'll soon be herring complaints.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 17:33:59 I'm fed up being optimistic-after the away cup tie at Palmerston I truly believed we'd turned the corner, AND was criticised for being positive!!!!! rolleyes.gif

With this lot-nae chance of consistency. John Brown will be just as desperate as JM. If we get a draw, I'll count us lucky.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 17:35:37
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Feb 7 2008, 04:28 PM) [snapback]398241[/snapback]
Interesting Chris - so you agree that things will get better ? That's my feeling too.

but you're worried about those that don't join in the daily witch hunt on manager/ players/chairman ? Personally I'd rather keep quiet until things improve. I just feel that constant criticism doesn't help anyone.

I'm (obviously) not happy with our barren spell but I'm not prepared to join any 'campaign' against the manager.

Your muteness may be protracted Cloth Ears! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 17:45:08
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 7 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]398258[/snapback]
There is a big difference between those who do not wish to openly call for the managers head ,afterall that decision lays with one man .

I do think some of the blind faith shown by some posters is worrying , given they don't back up their arguement with anything but " I'm a loyal supporter ..... call yourself fans ".

I have often stated my reservations about McInally not just when we are going through a bad spell . What has surprised me is how much a novice he now looks compared to other managers in the league .

You must be startled at our lack of organisation considering the players we have at our disposal.
I do hope we survive this season , I would love to see what some of our players could achieve with a stable defence behind them .

Would you be happy if we do avoid relegation and McInally is given even more time .

They have NOTHING left with which to back their misplaced optimism Chris.

Most of them just can't cope with those who dare to question the sanctity of their heroes, and that is truly the behaviour of immature brats.

Rae has well and truly f*cked up-he's obviously drawn in the purse strings recently at a time when we desperately needed to strengthen the squad, and he's hung on to JM to avoid paying compensation.

How pathetic is that, coming as it does from this inexorably wealthy and successful businessman who is PASSIONATE about Morton?

Seems to me he cares more about protecting his personal stash, while still desperately clinging to a self perception of saviour and fans' hero.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 20:14:24
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 7 2008, 05:56 PM) [snapback]398269[/snapback]
They let you stay in the mearns? ohmy.gif

I like it for lots of reasons, cosmopolitan is a word that would have to apply here. Large jewish and muslim communities as well as taigs and proddies rubbing along very nicely.
Very little crime, good shops takeaways etc.
The only pain is the lack of decent alehouses.

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There is no lack of such establishments in Partick-I've lived in the Mearns Mr Bam-Crookfur for seven years, and then in Ryelands for four, and my kids were educated there. It's a jolly fine place in many ways, but there are too many folk there who think 'they've arrived' just because of the G77 postcode.

Oh and those taigs-I don't know why they ever let them in! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 20:18:45
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 7 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]398285[/snapback]
Sshe really is a class act right enough. Watching FMQ's, Salmond had just replied to her question. She came back with razor wit and said "Defence is the best form of attack !" A bemused Salmond stood up and said " I believe the phrase is Attack is the best form of defence" EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2008-02-07 20:25:38
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 7 2008, 05:52 PM) [snapback]398268[/snapback]
Thats a bit harsh, given that we've just signed McGuffie, Jenkins and Wake. I understand some players have been let go in the process, but of those only really Templeman was a big loss. I don't imagine the Gretna boys came cheap!

I don't imagine they came all that dear-their director of football's been trying to slash the wage bill, and all of those players were 'surplus to requirements'. We've got rid of Linn, Templeman, Gardyne, and Shields, and Keenan's out on loan. OK still a net outlay by the club, but remember Smith will go soon, and Wake's a Hamilton reject.

Not happy times.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 20:29:52
QUOTE(SramTon @ Feb 7 2008, 08:26 PM) [snapback]398310[/snapback]
That's what I was thinking. There are players who make things happen and there are players who are cogs.

put the latter in a rolex and they seem great. unfortunately we're currently a broken timex digital.

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Hopefully Jenkins will be our mainspring!
mortonjag 2008-02-07 20:31:47 One prediction I will make-the crowd will struggle to reach 2000 The Bookies have us as odds on favourites and the Bookies are apparently rarely wrong, but the Monkey reckons 5-2 will do him for the draw.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 20:40:39
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 7 2008, 08:35 PM) [snapback]398316[/snapback]
pish. have some respect for the dead and keep your pathetic voyeuristic gossip to yourself.



Voyeur...


1. A person who derives sexual gratification from observing the naked bodies or sexual acts of others, especially from a secret vantage point.
2. An obsessive observer of sordid or sensational subjects.

I'm sure there is a poster who recently said 'My neighbours are shagging again' laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 20:45:40
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 7 2008, 08:41 PM) [snapback]398321[/snapback]
I roughed it for a few years not far from Crookfur, before moving to the 'good' side of the Ayr Road. wink.gif

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Illustrates my point exactly CHC-we'd never lived in the South side before, and when we said we lived in Newton Mearns, were regularly told that Crookfur was not part of it.

Did you live in the 'Broom', or should that be 'Broomy'? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 20:48:46
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 7 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]398319[/snapback]
Hoping for a win of any sorts. Praying McInally will go. Talk about rock and f**king hard place. dry.gif

Not sure about crowd. If same weather as QOS game could very well fail to reach 2000. mad.gif

Thing is, if we do lose I reckon most of the fans will at least see the end of a game for the first time in ages tongue.gif



The Road and the Miles to Dundee

Cauld winter was howlin' o'er moor and o'er mountain,
And wild was the surge of the dark rolling sea,
When I met about daybreak a bonnie young lassie,
Wha asked me the road and the miles to Dundee.

Says I, "My young lassie, I canna' weel tell ye
The road and the distance I canna' weel gie.
But if you'll permit me tae gang a wee bittie,
I'll show ye the road and the miles to Dundee".

At once she consented and gave me her arm,
Ne'er a word did I speir wha the lassie micht be,
She appeared like an angel in feature and form,
As she walked by my side on the road to Dundee.

At length wi' the Howe o' Strathmartine behind us,
The spires o' the toon in full view we could see,
She said "Gentle Sir, I can never forget ye
For showing me far on the road to Dundee".

I took the gowd pin from the scarf on my bosom -
And said "Keep ye this in remembrance o' me
Then bravely I kissed the sweet lips o' the lassie,
E'er I parted wi' her on the road to Dundee.

So here's to the lassie, I ne'er can forget her,
And lika young laddie that's list'rling to me,
O never be sweer to convoy a young lassie
Though it's only to show her the road to Dundee

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mortonjag 2008-02-07 20:51:15
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 7 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]398326[/snapback]
Aye, I lived in the Broomy, 1992-1996.

Mr Bam will be very impressed! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 20:54:39
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 7 2008, 08:44 PM) [snapback]398322[/snapback]
'The wit of Wendy Alexander'.... that in itself is quite funny. smile.gif

I was thinking more in terms of instinctive cunning-I do have to say that Bawheid doesn't exactly strike me as Mensa material either.

Peter Pan and Wendy-knocking lumps out of each other in Never Never land!
mortonjag 2008-02-07 21:19:59
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 7 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]398349[/snapback]
Do you mean Tam the tedious Tory taig teacher? huh.gif

He'll be on asking if that's the tedious teacher, or the tedious Tory taigs. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 21:26:10
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 7 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]398346[/snapback]
Are you grooming me tongue.gif

Sounds like some sort of s*** chat up line MJ wink.gif How you pulled your wife I will never know. Must be your looks !

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Naw Gash-I was merely alluding to JM and the road to Dundee.

My wife actually pulled me-she was young and impressionable, and I had good career prospects-she discovered her mistake after about seven years, but by then we had three weans, so I didn't get turfed for quite a while.

My new partner is young too-I think she just has a soft spot for lost old men!
mortonjag 2008-02-07 21:32:04
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 7 2008, 09:25 PM) [snapback]398361[/snapback]
But excessive furry cup drinking can leave you like this

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mortonjag 2008-02-07 22:01:36
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 7 2008, 09:43 PM) [snapback]398370[/snapback]
MJ has a perfectly good Mickey Mouse watch wink.gif



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mortonjag 2008-02-07 22:05:18
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 7 2008, 09:44 PM) [snapback]398372[/snapback]
She doesn't have to go far to find you laugh.gif Your always here

...and she's usually in front of the telly-it's a marriage of convenience!
mortonjag 2008-02-07 22:08:58
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 7 2008, 09:54 PM) [snapback]398375[/snapback]
JM's arm-folding technique has led you to the conclusion that he is on a very short leash and has to justify all his decisions to big bad Shoogly laugh.gif

You're nothing but a conspirator and a rumour-monger, Mortonjag! tongue.gif

Who are my fellow conspirators?!!

I don't spread rumours-I merely make observations and suggestions. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 22:11:25
QUOTE(SramTon @ Feb 7 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]398381[/snapback]
hmm, i did say timex digital in my orig post smile.gif

i should probably have said casio to stress the point

You simply asked if I'd ever owned a Timex-I used to love pulling old watches to pieces-now in this digital age all I've left is old confectioners! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 23:06:53
QUOTE(CivicTypeR @ Feb 7 2008, 11:01 PM) [snapback]398397[/snapback]
Right and the radio today when i was in a taxi speculated a hell of alot more than me, and all i did was stated a fact, then retracted the statement because I was wrong as the FACT actually had nothing to do with said murder. Whats going to possibly piss the family off about that? Not as if it was actually anything to do WITH the murder it was something completely different. So dont sit their n twist things n say i was speaking about some dead guy because i said eff all about him. What i said id say again anyway their was nothing bad in it i ment nothing bad AT ALL. So deal with it. The radio were speculating a hell of alot more than me sayin anything i wouldnt even repeat what the radio said because at this stage its mallicious rumours and i had heard them when i wrote that post last night, but i said nothing because thats all it is, RUMOURS. So if yev got a problem with anyone speculating go fone the f***ing radio n start a barmy with them.

other than that

leave 18 year old girls alone

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Has that bad man been messing about with eighteen year old girls?




































































AGAIN!!!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-08 05:40:51
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 7 2008, 11:51 PM) [snapback]398408[/snapback]
I don't necessarily agree that Dougie is skint but what I do think is that the club is losing money hand over fist and that there has been a change in strategy so that we have a smaller squad of better players starting with those signed in the window. Whether they are better time will tell but if you have a limited budget its the way to go imho as long as you don't get ridiculously thin. If you are fulltime, you cannot make money outside the SPL unless you get a decent cup run ideally including a game against one of the old firm. I think Dougie is just trying to make the club come as close to living within its means as possible. If we had been challenging for promotion, more money might have been spent but in the situation we are in, do enough to keep us up and keep your powder dry for the next campaign.

I think we have had a net improvement to the first team over the window and we have decent players some of whom are not playing to their potential. Thats why I have come to the conclusion that we need a new manager. Compare our squad to Stirling and Clyde at least and we have better players. Whether we can make them play as a team is the issue.


And therein lies our problem I believe.

If Mr Rae had taken advice from the outset, there is absolutely no reason why we could not be playing in the S.P.L. now, but he did not, or would not.

The club slowly staggered to the first division, and Rae's bungling and amateurish self indulgences saw him (or Golden Casket) incur disproportionate outgoings with full time wages, plummeting crowds, and successive cup failures.

I refuse to accept the concept of 'consolidation' this year. Consolidation represents a planned reinforcement of assets and casting off of waste. The current situation smacks more of desperation from the man who steadfastly assured us repeatedly we were headed for the S.P.L.

One thing is certain-the purse strings have been drawn tight.

Is it possible that the Golden Casket shareholders have been able to do what the fans never could and have forced the Shooglemeister to take a long hard look at reality?
mortonjag 2008-02-08 06:57:53
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 8 2008, 06:04 AM) [snapback]398427[/snapback]
I know a few vegans that bounce. biggrin.gif I've tried cutting out dairy products numerous times but sadly, hypocrite that I am, fall back on the wayside after a month or so. Soya alternatives to milk and cheese are minging I'm afraid. I'm for giving veganism a go again though, the thought of dairy herd calves being slaughtered at birth in their thousands to be processsed as pet food, well that's just too much for a jessie like me to take. And what about poor old Mammy Coo ? We kill its children and then milk it for the rest of its miserable life. That's no way to treat a sentient being I think. So here I go, I'm a vegan again this morning. One day at a time.

Don't forget the supplements!
mortonjag 2008-02-08 07:03:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 8 2008, 06:33 AM) [snapback]398428[/snapback]
Fair points Franco. Salmond seems content to accept his 'Queen of Scots'. In time there's a danger he might be content to accept 'extended' devolution rather than full independence. I hope not, maybe I'm a wee bit paranoid, but I'm naturally suspicious of people who wear permanent grins. Shagger Sheridan and his permanent tan always looked ridiculous whereas Smirking Salmond and his permanent grin can look a shade sinister sometimes. A bit like Jack Nicholson as the Joker. laugh.gif

Back to my pet theory on politicians.

Why does anyone enter politics (irrespective of beliefs) in the first place.

Because he, she, or IT thinks it can make the world a better place-forget the perceived motivation-that's about power, and power corrupts.

Simple

Smiling Bawheid the silent Assassin.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 07:06:27
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Feb 8 2008, 06:45 AM) [snapback]398430[/snapback]
Why would you even care? who gives a f*** if he posts all the time, people talk about this old grandad all the time on this board, pathetic to say the least.

I couldn't agree more-I'd put the sad old c*nt on ignore but I can't.

There-he's made another dismal and pathetic addition to his post count by parroting your wise and insightful comment.

mortonjag 2008-02-08 07:08:41
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 8 2008, 07:06 AM) [snapback]398434[/snapback]
It's when the boat comes IN ya dobber. tongue.gif

'DOBBER'


When did it aspire to that dizzy height? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-08 07:10:49
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Feb 8 2008, 06:36 AM) [snapback]398429[/snapback]
Hahaha f*** sake who cares....

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Have you stopped taking those pills?
mortonjag 2008-02-08 07:20:40 post not found
mortonjag 2008-02-08 07:24:59
QUOTE(lemmington @ Feb 8 2008, 07:21 AM) [snapback]398441[/snapback]
Do you never sleep???

I get about six hours every night.

Why did you ask that question? huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-08 07:29:23
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 8 2008, 07:22 AM) [snapback]398442[/snapback]
No, I'll take some tonight. How many vitamins are there in a pint of Tennents Lager?


All alcohol-related social problems are caused by beer. You could be forgiven for believing this after recent media coverage on the topic.

Wine is never blamed for fatalities on the road, domestic violence or poverty. We have of course the lager louts who are responsible for the violence in your hospitals A&E departments. Anyone who ventures out into the ‘hostelry’s’ that serve our younger end of the population will see that it is the likes of the WDK’s and the ‘shots’ of alcohol and flavourings that are consumed in binge drinking.



It is time to set the record straight for beer.

Marianne Thysen, member of the European Parliament, stated in opening speech, moderate consumption of beer has a positive effect on health. Dr. Pilar of the university of Valancia has reported on the anti-oxidative properties of beer in vivo and in vitrio. We know free radicals are constantly produced in our bodies. They change the cell structure, denature proteins and may provoke carcinogenic changes of the nucleic acids. To prevent these reactions antioxidants function as a buffer. In beer these are phenolic compounds such as phenol carbon acids,flavonoids,and tannoids.The Spanish scientists examined the antioxidants found in beer and compared them to well known antioxidants such as vitamin C and vitamin E. The results appeared to independent of the type of beer. The most significant compounds were the proanthocyanadines which showed eight times more potential than vitamin C and fifty five times more than vitamin E. In the in-vivo tests the polyphenolic compounds isolated from beer prolonged the vitality of cells. They had an all over protective effect. Most of all they suppressed the lipid oxidation, increased the ATP contents and decreased the formation of carbonylic compounds in the cell.



Professor Dr. Dennis de Keukeleire has examined the polyphenols found in beer,mainly the flavonoids quercetin and campherol. These do have powerful anti-oxidant properties. According to the prof. , their content makes beer equivalent at to wine as regard ant-oxidative capacity. Two of the most exciting compounds are derived from hops. Xanthohumol is the most important one of the 20 compounds known up to now. However, 8_prenylnaringenin (8PN)

Seems to be a very interesting candidate too, since it able to develop a lot of possible activities in the body. The beneficial action of these compounds is most distinct against hormone caused cancers such as mammary cancer, uterine cancer, and prostate cancer. Research from Ghent shows that 8PN is very effective in preventing the aggregation of mammary cancer cells. This is a hint that it might prevent the development of metastases.

Further results show that it inhibits the activation of the cytochrome-P450 enzyme. This enzyme assists the metabolic transformation of pre-carcinogenic to carcinogenic compounds.

Work done at the German Cancer Research Station Heidelberg, showed that out of 2000 compounds examined Xanthohumol proved the most interesting compound. It was found to have a preventative effect during all stages of cancer development, from the state of emergence to proliferation. They confirmed these findings in vivo where they found that in very low concentrations Xanthohumol suppressed the development of cancer in the mammary glands of mice. Compared to reveratrol found in red wine Xanthohumol is 200 times more active.



The amount found in beer is from 0- 21 mg/l. depending on the hopping regime in the brewery.

The later the hops are added the higher the levels in the final beer. Estimates have been made of the amount of beer that must be consumed in order for a significant amount of these protective compounds to pass in the blood stream. Currently these range from 1.5 litres per day to 60 litres!! The final truth will probably be some where between these two extremes.



Work in the UK on the vitamin content of beer has shown that it contains a number of important vitamins, notably folic acid

(vitamin B9). Folic acid can protect not only from coronary heart diseases and cancer but it is also recommended for pregnant women to prevent congenital defects. About 40% of the western population die from coronary heart disease. Heath politics now tries to counteract this by recommending that people increase their intake of folic acid.



In the UK beer contributes about 10% of the daily folic acid assimilation. Work carried out on the Czech population showed that the consumption of 1l of beer per day had a very positive effect on the homocystine level in the blood. (high levels of homocystine are associated with an increased risk of coronary heart disease, folic acid reduces it to methionine).



Finally, Dr Jonathan Powell, St Thomas Hospital, London has shown that beer contains a great amount of dietetically valuable silicon in the form of its biologically available variant, ortho-silicate. New studies have shown that ortho-silicate promotes the growth of the bones. Foe adults the daily supply should be 20-50 mg depending on age and sex. Beer contains 10-40 mg/l of which 50% is assimilated into the body. Therefore beer must be considered one of the most important sources of dietary silicon.



It obvious when viewed impartially, the moderate use of beer should be promoted at a national level for the good heath of the nation.

It is not helpful to concentrate only on the cost of alcohol abuse to the NHS and not take into count the savings that beer drinking contributes.



Happy to help!
mortonjag 2008-02-08 07:38:34
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 8 2008, 07:34 AM) [snapback]398446[/snapback]
Thank you. Beer, in moderation of course, is essential for profound thinking.

Has profound thinking ever defined moderation? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-08 07:41:59
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 8 2008, 07:40 AM) [snapback]398448[/snapback]
Good question Mentaljag. I'll give that some profound consideration tonight.

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mortonjag 2008-02-08 09:22:54
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Feb 8 2008, 09:17 AM) [snapback]398455[/snapback]
I posted on this site early this morning cause im in work bored oot my nut but you are actually up at 7:10am in the morning posting on this site.

What on god's earth are you?

Sad little man

Sad little man indeed-sitting 'bored oot yer nut', and you've the impertinence to ask what I am-well I'll treat that as a serious question.

I am a retired professional gentleman-I was never 'bored' at work, and I rarely allow myself to become bored in my retirement.

I presume you just haven't the wit or intelligence to get yourself a fulfilling job.

Sad little man.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 09:41:28
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 8 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]398456[/snapback]
It could be he is under pressure from his shareholders but bear in mind he is the majority shareholder in GC and most of the other shares are family so its not that likely in my opinion. I think though he does have a problem funding Morton's losses not so much from an inability to afford them as just the fact that they are there no matter what he does.

I think there are many things that could be done to alleviate the losses but outside the SPL I don't think they can be eliminated unless, as I say, you get the good fortune of a cup run/old firm tie - like St Johnstone a couple of years ago. Thats where their reported £350k profit came from - they had two good cup runs that year in both the Scottish and CIS cups and imet the old firm in both runs I think. That though is the luck of the draw and a business can't depend on luck!

Indeed, and it's just conceivable that those family member shareholders might have got a little upset that the Godfather's been underwriting his ego trip at their expense. Perhaps they have become thoroughly pissed off with abuse of a facility which they initially approved in good faith, only to see their own investments eroded by his rampaging and single minded stupidity.

I've been claiming lately that Shoogly is skint. Some smart ass suggested I look at the 'Bank' figure on the GC accounts, but like it or not, that's not just his money.

I have no idea what his personal wealth is, but if he wants to perpetuate his image as passionate fan, saviour, and benefactor, maybe he should start dipping into his own pocket.

Is that likely?

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mortonjag 2008-02-08 10:06:15
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Feb 8 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]398463[/snapback]
" I was never bored at work " - Aye ok then mate!

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You REALLY ARE a sad creature-no Sir I was NEVER bored in all my years in Medicine-frustrated, disappointed, angry, elated, content, tired, optimistic, pessimistic, satisfied, dissatisfied-I could go on-but NEVER bored.

For a start, I never had time to be bored-never in my whole career would I have been able to log on to a fans' website, if such diversions had existed.

Furthermore I'd suggest that there are plenty of interesting jobs out there if you're so unhappy-interesting and rewarding, if not necessarily in a pecunious way-so here's my advice to you-genine advice-take a good hard look at your circumstances-see what you can do to better your lot-life's far too short to stay stuck in a rut.

I guess you'll reply that you're trapped because you need the money.

I find that-well-



BORING.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 10:09:52
QUOTE(princessTON @ Feb 8 2008, 09:49 AM) [snapback]398462[/snapback]
just seen on inverclyde now, theres been an attempted murder in neil street just after midnight. whats happenin to this place???????????

Aye know-it's f*ckin' murder.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 10:14:14
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 8 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]398459[/snapback]
Because everyone know that there is currently an inbuilt majority against having a referendum - therefore if he forced the issue and resigned, and gained a few seats in any subsequent election, he would be back to square one (unless SNP support rose beyond 50% which should mean an overall majority). Being realistic, he realises he can't currently get a referendum through Parliament - it's a step function, have a referendum or don't have one, no way you could compromise and have half a referendum of 75% of one. In the budget, there is room for modification and compromise and having compromised he basically said back me or sack me. Totally different from a single issue matter like a referendum.

I can't see Alex Salmond backing off from independence - that is the raison d'etre of the SNP. The current set up is just a first step along the road.

Those two statements may not be mutually inclusive.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 11:02:20
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Feb 8 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]398474[/snapback]
" BORING " Now there's a word you are very familiar with.

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I knew you had stopped those pills-everything bores you and you call other people 'sad'! laugh.gif

Get a life or a proper job!
mortonjag 2008-02-08 11:07:36
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Feb 8 2008, 10:31 AM) [snapback]398476[/snapback]
As an outsider that doesn’t take any grate interest in this you think becomes it was under £1,000 she got off with it cose in the bigger picture that’s not much £ if you get me

The only thing that is stopping me voting SNP at the next election is Alex “I will run the contrary by getting my coppen on every t.v program†Samoand as soon as he buggers off to trump towers and lets we Nicola in then Scotland will go forward

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Pedro you were talking sense until that last sentence!!!!

That wee knickerless one hasn't a scooby-believe me-her new NHS is about as well planned and more profligate than the Shoogly empire at Cappielow.

Trump towers for the lot of them-Bawheid, Bendy, Tinkerbell-the whole bloody lot I say! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-08 11:39:43
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Feb 8 2008, 11:28 AM) [snapback]398484[/snapback]
Hahaha ok then

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mortonjag 2008-02-08 11:43:31
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 7 2008, 03:07 PM) [snapback]398212[/snapback]
far too complex for me! bout a mfi flatpack wardrobe, 6 drawer chst an three drawer chst 2 year ago, built the 6 drawer and wardrobe myself, friends husband built the three drawer chest - only thing that doesnt sway when you open it!

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My partner's out tonight so I'll get peace to construct the quadrupig without being called an 'eejit'.

I shall report back! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-08 11:55:54 Story by Nach0king

Thursday, 21st October 2004
Former Celt, Arab Aims To Lead The Young Revolution At Cappielow
Following the ironing-out of contractual details this afternoon, the Morton board, led by Chairman DDF Rae, unanimously backed Jim McInally's bid to take the reins at Greenock Morton FC. The former player-manager at Sligo Rovers in the Irish Premier League has spent the last two years nurturing young talent at Celtic, before landing the Cappielow job under a six-point banner of his qualities as perceived by Rae following consultation with those McInally has served under previously.

From GMFC.net:

1) Ability to spot players strengths and build on same dry.gif
2) A great encourager of players unsure.gif
3) Above average ability in 'reading' a game during a match and the ability to spot and attack opponents' weaknesses. laugh.gif
4) Calm and patient under pressure sad.gif
5) Great strength of character unsure.gif
6) A players' Manager wacko.gif

It is the third, fourth and sixth points that seem to speak volumes. Many felt McCormack's tactical nous was somewhat lacking; his angry reaction to a fan's vitriolic shouts at Dumbarton late last season certainly showed him to be someone who did not react to the sometimes extreme pressure lavished upon all involved at the Greenock club. If Jim can do exactly what it says on the tin, and use the undoubted qualities of a minority of our players to guide the rest through a game tactically and strategically, he will earn the respect of all those who have resigned themselves to the grim reality that much of this squad is simply not good enough to challenge at the top.

But not all think this way. There is a small band of supporters who believe that the players simply could not perform under the increasing authoritarian auspices of Cowboy. There may be a grain of truth in it - after all, it was these same no-hopers who were at one stage 13 points clear at the top of the division. Whether or not McInally can reintroduce the spark that had Morton dominating the Division last year remains to be seen.

He may not even want to. Wary of the media stories of excess and ill-discipline in the Morton camp over the last few years, he may opt to bring in his own players if he cannot gain the cooperation of the current crop.The sixth point in Rae's list, as well as a telling announcement yesterday stating that the new manager would have to be understanding of "real life" issues regarding the players, already has lead some to fear that he may be a soft touch who the prima donnas can take for a ride.Certainly a manager these days must kow-tow to his players in a way unimaginable in the past, but it is hoped that McInally can find the middle ground between spineless compliance, and the alleged shouting matches that dogged McCormack's last weeks at the club. A true players' manager will do precisely that - act as mentor and guide to the players, but also manage the team so that spirit and discipline are not compromised.

At this stage, Jim's managerial record is not a lengthy document, comprising just one season at Sligo Rovers. But, as Craig Levein showed, it's not impossible for a young manager with only one club's worth of experience to surprise everyone by achieving quick success. We at Morton-Mad wish McInally the best of luck in this endeavour, and will be right behind him this Saturday against Berwick



HMM! I'm just bemused-where did GMFC.net get their information from-Shooglyspin.org?
mortonjag 2008-02-08 12:11:55
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 8 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]398497[/snapback]
Who is your alternative MJ ? Labour ? Lib-Dems ? Tories ?

I did not claim to have an alternative Bannock Baws-I'm a breaker, not a builder! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-08 12:44:59
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Feb 8 2008, 12:14 PM) [snapback]398503[/snapback]
Ploughing through old documentation looking for flaws in our current predicament is not exactly difficult at this present moment. It could be done with anything. Many fans lavished praise on Williams saying he would be a future Scotland star the way he was going, banging in 15-20 goals in the first half of the 2002/03 season. You can easily pick flaws on hindsight, it does not require any great mind to do so.

Also, of the 6 points:



1) Not convinced about this ability as for every good signing he has made, there has been at least one that has not turned out as we might have hoped
2) It may not be apparent on matchdays, but who is to say that he doesn't do that in the dressing room or in training.
3) This is the one I most strongly disagree with as too often it seems clear where the opposition weakness (or strength) is and we don't respond accordingly e.g. McAlister not taking on the full back often enough or punting high balls up to our strikers who are being marked out the game by big centre-halves
4) I would agree wholeheartedly with this
5) I would agree again
6) I would agree again
The reason I gave my thoughts on each of the points is that all you did was highlight certain points in pretty colours and write "HMM!" at the bottom of your post. What are your educated thoughts on the matter?!
I hope we win tomorrow.

Firstly I wasn't 'ploughing through old documents looking for flaws'- I was browsing something completely different and spotted this link!

Now you've asked for my 'educated' thoughts on the six points. I'm afraid that's impossible, as I am not privy to information from the dressing room, but I'll give you my observations.


1) Ability to spot players strengths and build on same--he seems to have destroyed every player who's come, Stevenson being the prime example.
2) A great encourager of players--Aye right-that's showed every time the 'chips have been down' when he's sat arms folded showing little interest.
3) Above average ability in 'reading' a game during a match and the ability to spot and attack opponents' weaknesses.---Plainly a JOKE.
4) Calm and patient under pressure--laid back and blinkered, I'd suggest
5) Great strength of character--what the f*ck is that meant to mean-how can people make ridiculous 'throw away' comments without giving examples?---maybe I'm misjudging him but I'd suggest 'can have a very stubborn streak' would be more apt.
6) A players' Manager--by definition only, again it's a loose term, but if it means he relates to the players and gains their respect and co-operation-NEVER.

Finally Dino, I think the thread provides a slightly different angle in present TTG times. Did Rae really BELIEVE all that guff, did he just want to believe it, or was it just Shooglyspin as he donned the garb of Puppeteer in Chief?
mortonjag 2008-02-08 12:55:49
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Feb 8 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]398515[/snapback]
I honsestly hope it works tomorrow, cause the players hwo are meant to be playing in defence are AWOL just now, well big Greasy and Hard-on......geezuz what are they playin at cause it it defending!!! You can dislike a manager all you like but at the end of the day,if 11 guys dont perform perform on the park ?the culprits need a kick up the bahooki...but we dont have the luxury of selection or squad size....

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I take it that's the new multi-cultural name for yer Gary G!
mortonjag 2008-02-08 12:58:14
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 8 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]398502[/snapback]
Well im out tonight as well with every intention of getting rat assed - since my alcoholism has been somewhat ruined by the taking of antibiotics!

what time is it?????

It's VINO time! tongue.gif

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Nothing like honesty! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-08 13:04:59
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 8 2008, 12:23 PM) [snapback]398508[/snapback]
Well stop fukin moanin then ohmy.gif

You have got the best there is at the moment. The SNP are only in power about 8 months so at least give them a chance !



I've given them a chance FFS-they walked in the door as complete greenhorns and started behaving like a shower of pubescent teenagers at their first 'no adults' party!

They had the mandate already, but instead of maturely making small changes at first while 'sussing' the joint, they've gone totally overboard with self congratulatory people pleasing measures many of which are both impractical and prohibitively expensive.

I was pleased when they got in Tartan Testicles-they have disappointed me.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 13:07:47
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 8 2008, 12:20 PM) [snapback]398506[/snapback]
He teaches chemistry to taigs, muslims, hindus, and sikhs to the best of his knowledge. unsure.gif

Whit Mr Bam-nae Proddies-that must be a selective school of some kind!!!
mortonjag 2008-02-08 13:47:14
QUOTE(Lindberg6 @ Feb 8 2008, 01:29 PM) [snapback]398532[/snapback]
is McInally now just throwing the names in the air and seeing who comes down where!?!? I seem to recall a lot of people on the board saying in the summer that a central defence pairing of Harding and Greacen would not be good enough for the first division.....unfortunately it has taken McInally until February to realise that after a series of Keystone Cops displays at the back.

He has dropped every member of the defence, McGurn, Harding, Greacen, McGregor and he now seems to be clutching at straws to try and stop the flow of goals.

The guy is a walking contradiction;

'Miller will never play for this club again' - he then plays
'mcguffie and Jenkins will now give us a great presence in midfield' - then plays him in defence
'Peter Weatherson's best position is central defence' - then plays him up front

I'm all for him trying to correct problems but it just seems to me that he doesn't really have an insight in how to do it....it seems to be trial and error....with emphasis on the error!

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mortonjag 2008-02-08 14:00:31
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Feb 8 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]398537[/snapback]
Close to an obsession, nay, a compulsion with regards to detailing DDFR's deficiencies and what you perceive as spin. What do you expect Rae to say in a statement regarding a new manager?! Of course he will build him up to the fans! I know that Dougie is not perfect, but to constantly bring his role up suggests that he irks you for a greater reason than simply football; I am not interested in knowing why.

I agree with you re points 1 and 2, though while Stevenson has not flourished, surely the player's attitude comes into consideration. Also, I think everyone will agree that Sanny left an improved player (in terms of heading ability and general greedyness on the ball) than when he arrived. By the same token it is not all down to the player, but the manager must take some credit also.

I agree that the "great strength of character" remark is throw away and cliched and therefore does not deserve analysis.

With regards to general calm, I think that is fair, whether you perceive it to be a laid back approach or not, the only time I can think of off the top of my head where he has lost the rag was when Mr Thomson gave us a goal and then decided against it.

The players all get on really well with JM, whether you think he is too easy on them or whatever, he still gets on with the players very well from what I hear/read.

You ask if Dougie really believed all that he wrote? Dougie is no more an expert (probably less!) on football than you or I, but it is his club and his appointment: he is fully entitled to generate a bit of optimism surrounding JM.

There are mature ways of welcoming a new manager without bullet pointing details of six characteristics-details which have largely proved to be complete pash!

Just another example of the cloud nine the Chairman was on at the time.

Do you think he's still entitled to 'do what he likes'? Do you believe he's doing a sterling job?
mortonjag 2008-02-08 14:05:21
QUOTE(franco @ Feb 8 2008, 01:42 PM) [snapback]398534[/snapback]
I still can't see the difference in the scenarios. The compromises in the budget were a convenient get out for Margo Mac and the Tories - total cost £30M, not worth the effort for John Swinney to stop and pick it up if he dropped it. He had a great laugh on the news last night explaining just how cheap a deal it was. Labour and the LibDems got nothing and abstained. None of them are brave enough to fight an election now. Even if Salmond lost a vote on having a referendum, he could resign and use a forthcoming election purely as an independence issue, a straight yes/no decision - I think the Scottish people would understand that and vote accordingly, and it may actually be Salmonds best chance of winning again as the sense of injustice at being prevented from having a referendum could work in his favour.

And when you think about it, there's no reason he couldn't work a deal with the tories to support a referendum. Offers of cabinet posts, shared power, future budget guarantees etc[b]. They seem half way there already, why not formalise it?[/b]

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mortonjag 2008-02-08 14:18:51
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Feb 8 2008, 02:12 PM) [snapback]398546[/snapback]
He's been very disappointing, and I have to admit i was shouting and balling at him a few times on SAt, but we've got to give any new player a chance to settle, something we are criminal for not doing at Cappielow...

Let's remember, the guy was at his previous club a LONG time. He'll definitely improve.

He played pretty well at Palmerston-they ALL did-we live in strange times!
mortonjag 2008-02-08 14:20:19
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Feb 8 2008, 02:05 PM) [snapback]398542[/snapback]
Is that not what gossip is?

I've heard that too-may just be idle tittle tattle though!
mortonjag 2008-02-08 14:22:50
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 8 2008, 02:13 PM) [snapback]398547[/snapback]
I doubt anyone on Gods green Earth could please you ya grumpy bassa dry.gif

The SNP are doing a fine job under the restrictive circumstances

Same could be said of Jim McInally! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-08 15:15:28
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 8 2008, 02:38 PM) [snapback]398553[/snapback]
Betting on Dustin now stopped by BoyleSports. Odds went from 33/1 to 5/2 ON when news that he was going to be one of the six finalists, and it was a public vote, became common knowledge.

The Irish aren't as daft as you think lads !

Love Dustin - he got Ray D'Arcy banned form kids TV just after the start of December one year ........ kinda went like this .....

Daddy Ray daddy Ray, I can do farmyard impressions, what'd ya loik to hear ? Ask me what the animals say ...

Ok what does a cow say ......

Mooooooo, gimme a hard one though

What does a sheep say .......

Baaaa, make it harder though

Alright, what does a pig say ?

"can you blow into this bag sir?"

Superb - a one week ban for the most inoffensive tv presenter ever.

His first album is outstanding, the highlight for me being his cover version of that Diva classic "I've been to Palmerstown but I've never been to Meath"

TonInDublin

Who is this Dustin chap-is he a youngster or an oldie-the only guy I ever knew with a name like that was Dustin A. Dyson.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 16:30:50
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 8 2008, 03:28 PM) [snapback]398558[/snapback]
MJ, we gather you don't like Nicola Sturgeon. I assume when you told her you were 69, she misheard you and thought you were asking her for a bit of horizontal action, and that's why she kneed you in the goolies.
Pedro, the reason it was just under £1000 was because that is the cut off level above which she had to reveal the names of the donors. she didn't want to do that because she knew perfectly well that some of the donors were illegal; and also knew that one of her donors was on the electoral commission. In legal terms, the amount is irrelevant; it's a bit like saying you can get off with stabbing someone if you stab them less than three times, but above that you will get convicted. she broke the law, end of story.

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Nothing personal against the wee soul-I'm sure she does her very, very best Alibi-it's just that she has the most scatterbrained proposals for her new NHS.

I'd just love to see somebody come in and tackle the real problems, but that just won't happen-it's not just the SNP who can't cope with the ill conceived monstrosity mind you.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 16:33:58
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 8 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]398567[/snapback]
Och admin do us all a favour and just delete this whole thread.

Will save CivictypeR prematurely aging and being set upon by the terriers on here

I know how she feels-she made a wee mistake and has been pilloried by the pure in heart.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 16:40:04
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 8 2008, 04:21 PM) [snapback]398568[/snapback]
I can't honestly say that anytime I have had to take antibiotics I haven't drank on top of them.

MJ, what damage would that do or does it just mean the antibiotics wouldn't have worked and I still have my STD laugh.gif laugh.gif

Most antibiotics could be safely taken with alcohol. It's not recommended because of the risk of unusual interactions with liver enzymes.

Some are strictly forbidden with booze-anti fungals for example like Flagyl.

Whatever made you think antibiotics would enlarge your size ten dick?

mortonjag 2008-02-08 17:21:46
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 8 2008, 04:47 PM) [snapback]398578[/snapback]
For those of us not aware what are her plans MJ ?

As a retired Doc you should have a pretty good arguement lined up (as always ;) )

My opinion of the NHS is it has been in crisis for a number of years now and with the constant migration for Europe into this country will continue to get worse. I appreciate it was set-up to provide good healthcare to all without prejudice but there has to be an arguement for a type of health insurance system to be introduced. Having said that, with quotes of around 47 million Americans kicking around without insurance there is also the arguement against.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Where do I start gash-if I do I'll never finish. Suffice to say that immediately after the new government was sworn in she announced that her brand spanking new Scottish NHS would meet demand, without further involvement of the private sector.

That was all I needed to hear, and your own comments indicate that a man in the street has more common sense than our Health Minister.

The NHS has NEVER EVER met 'demand' and never could. With a limited slice of the budget each year, only so much is possible, yet she'sgone on to announce further scatterbrained ideas-the latest to spend £270 million of OUR money, finding out what WE think-f***ING magic-and then what? <_<

The problem is Gash that the NHS has always been a political 'hot potato'-if you're not seen to be 'making it better' you lose votes-it's just as simple as that,and that's why successive governments have never done any
mortonjag 2008-02-08 17:31:59
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 8 2008, 04:47 PM) [snapback]398577[/snapback]
I think the "Saint" bit in the school's name acts as a deterrent.

Well at least it's not St Mirren's! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-08 17:37:11
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 8 2008, 05:03 PM) [snapback]398587[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif You obviously never met my wife. Going by the look on her coupen sometimes I swear I must be hung like a mouse.

I have a small penis, there you happy, I said it. The antibiotics were due to this ill fortune. I bought a penis pump which just wasn't powerful enough so I hooked it up to a stripped out hoover, reconditioned of course to provide maximum suction. Added some go faster stripes, big spoiler and some big ass speakers/sub woofer setup. Forgetting to put a protective cover back over the motor I kicked back to await my magic beans providing me a beanstalk, alas, all I ended up with was almost a completely severed golden goose which I harped about for months due to a taller than average doctor threatening to cut it off with an axe.

Gracious-so have I-though I've no idea how about sixty posters seem to know too!

Don't let it worry you Gash-yer Dick's for pissing with, and you should see all those big knobs trying to relieve themselves into a glass Irn Bru bottle!
mortonjag 2008-02-08 18:54:46
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Feb 8 2008, 06:35 PM) [snapback]398611[/snapback]
Is there not a fans forum due where you could put your queries forward?

The annual Shoogly Show is hardly a fans' forum. I believe the 'Rally' is scheduled for this month. I also believe it will be postponed.

Barbarossa suggests that Mr Rae is made aware of our feelings-I've no reason to doubt that.

I, for one, arguably the Chairman's biggest critic, would be very grateful and indeeed give him credit for some honesty at this juncture.

I've never suggested he is an evil man-only that he's been the victim of his own driving personality, and which of us can honestly say we haven't made mistakes?

It's all very well clamouring for JM's head on a platter, and I believe he must go, for his own good as much as anything, but that will probably make little difference if changes are not made at Board level.

Mr Rae is 76/77 years of age. Surely he can relax a bit and devolve control to somebody with the ability to take us forward.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 18:57:51
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 8 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]398613[/snapback]
Give up ya boring old pain in the arse !!!!

You never let me down darling-keep highlighting my posts-I AM grateful! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-08 19:08:24
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 8 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]398602[/snapback]
Scotland's population has been in decline for decades due to low birth-rates and emigration, and it has only just started to stabilise very recently. Since study after study have shown that despite what the tabloids would have us believe immigration actually boosts the economy (i.e. increases the GDP) this means that they themselves will pay for any extra burden placed on the NHS.

I don't think immigration is the cause of the NHS woes... if fact, if it wasn't for the huge numbers of doctors immigrating to Scotland the NHS would be in a much worse state than it's in today.

I wish that were true-I'm not saying that immigration does not 'boost the economy', but the NHS cake slice is not necessarily increased pro rata.

Furthermore I can tell you categorically that the influx of asylum seekers and poorly paid Eastern European workers has disproportionately increased the demand on inner city G.P.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 19:13:18
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 8 2008, 06:10 PM) [snapback]398606[/snapback]
Bottom line is, you get the Health Service you pay for. If you want low taxes, which compared almost every other Western European country the UK has, then you get s***e services. It's not rocket science.

The only way the NHS will improve is if you pay for it, either through increased direct taxation or indirect taxation through a private/public health insurance scheme.

Simple. smile.gif

Holland in France are two countries where I've got first hand experience if their health systems. Both have similar GDPs to the UK, but have infinitely superior health systems, so there's no reason why Scotland couldn't have the same.

There is a problem though.... advocating raising taxes in the UK is tantamount committing to political suicide, and God help any politician who would dare suggest that those who can afford it should be compelled to pay for private health insurance. So until that changes, the NHS will forever remain a 2nd class health system.

Again your general point is correct, but the NHS is an archetypal example of colossal wastage between funding and actual service delivery-riddled as it is with multi layer beaurocracy, which sucks clinicians and nurses away from patient care to 'administrative posts' and cossets a self propagating cancer of pen pushers.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 19:33:33
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 8 2008, 07:21 PM) [snapback]398629[/snapback]
Well of course my general premise is based on the assumption that any increase in fiscal income generated by immigrants will be proportionally distributed to the NHS.

Sorry I didn't make that clear. rolleyes.gif

The cake is sliced differently from year to year-I suspect you very well know that, and as I have stated no account is taken for the increased burden on the NHS relative to income generated for the economy by immigration policy.

One final point-would you like to say WHY we are employing so many immigrant doctors who often have little understanding of our culture. In certain specialties like surgery or anaesthetics that is probably of little import, but in person to person communication I ASSURE you the patient receives an inferior service over the piece.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 19:49:28
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 8 2008, 07:44 PM) [snapback]398643[/snapback]
OK, Give it up ya boring old poofter.

How very dare you sweeetie-none of my boyfriends has ever complained that I'm boring-why don't you pop up chez moi, and I'll bore you to your hearts content! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-08 20:02:25
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 8 2008, 07:38 PM) [snapback]398641[/snapback]
I've got no idea why we have to employ so many immigrant doctors... I assume either we don't train enough or a large proportion of those we do emigrate. Either way both are indicative of under-investment in which case I refer you to my earlier points.

Re your final point.. my problem with employing immigrant doctors is somewhat different from yours, given that they're mostly recruited from the 3rd world where they are crying out for doctors.

But I'm sure in the vast majority of cases the language and cultural issues you seem so concerned about will quickly improve with exposure to patients and general experience.

We have not planned ahead-we do not train enough doctors in this country-and that includes budding kids from those very countries you mention who after five or six years of close integration with fellow students, and exposure to our culture do a fine job.

Instead we've had to resort to cheap-and that's exactly what it is-labour which increasingly comes from the new European countries. It's not that they are paid less than the going rate-it's because our home trained Medics regard the going rate for many of those posts unacceptable when the nature of the job, unsociable hours and so on are taken into the equation.

Finally it's been my experience that doctors who come here to work, and who have only the basic understanding of English reqired for admission, and no knowledge of our culture rarely 'improve quickly' Such is human nature.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 20:07:47
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 8 2008, 07:59 PM) [snapback]398647[/snapback]
I think we may be stumbling on to the reason you hate dougie rae so much, Turn you down did he ?

You seem to know more about Mr Rae than I do. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-08 20:18:57
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 8 2008, 08:10 PM) [snapback]398651[/snapback]
Indeed, though the school's name was St Mirin if I remember correctly.

Correct-named after the original Irish monk, who clearly has a lot to answer for! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-08 20:31:10
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 8 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]398654[/snapback]
So we're agreed then that lack of investment is the problem. rolleyes.gif

Re your 'finally', in every country that I've lived in my grasp of the language and its culture has improved immeasurably in a relatively short time by simply being immersed in it. I'm frankly amazed that that's not the case for immigrant doctors in Scotland.

I don't recall ever suggesting that we had adequate investment in medical education!

Your analysis of 'your grasp of language and culture' is subjective. Obviously one's ability to speak the lingo gets better, and more insight is gained into 'how things are done'-that does not necessarily mean that, as a doctor, your ability to have a meaningful and effective interaction with-say a poorly educated local peasant-would equate to that of a locally trained man.

It cuts both ways CHC-I already have a working knowledge of French, and wide experience in General Practice. I could get a job over there tomorrow-where I can assure you I'd be totally lost, and I don't imagine I could EVER relate to patients as well as a local practitioner. It's nothing to do with xenophobia or racism-just a fact of human interaction.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 20:47:38
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 8 2008, 08:42 PM) [snapback]398672[/snapback]
My own involved extensive practical research into the sharp rise in quality of online pornography and the resultant effect this has had on the top shelf of ethnically owned confectionary emporiums.
The results make for fascinating reading.

The mention of confectionery has put me off porn-well for tonight anyway-'Two fudgy wudgys, and wink.gif wink.gif wink.gif


Thank you!
mortonjag 2008-02-08 20:51:13
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 8 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]398655[/snapback]
Really ??

I'm not the one who's made 14000+ posts about the guy, telling the world how much you dislike him without any good reason.
It's becoming clear now though.

BTW, Were you one of the guys that was in that OAP gay threesome picture posted on here a while back ?

I don't know-we have those little meetings of congress fairly often-not always with the same participants-can you give me a link?
mortonjag 2008-02-08 20:54:51
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 8 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]398683[/snapback]
One should join the real world wink.gif

I believe you misunderstood him Willow-those figures indicate his mental age, and the number of times he's had surgery to remove a foreign object from his sigmoid colon.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 20:58:21
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 8 2008, 08:56 PM) [snapback]398698[/snapback]
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Look it up man but don't look up it!
mortonjag 2008-02-08 21:02:41
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 8 2008, 08:51 PM) [snapback]398687[/snapback]
Why thank you.

As for you Dr Jag, two fudgy wudgys and a copy of Fiesta is a great night in. Don't pretend you're not nodding in agreement.
Puggsy: Good luck microphone man. With the amount of posts you have on here I'm sure a measly dissertation will be no problem. wink.gif

Fudgy wudgys make me sick BH-his black striped balls are great though-you can suck on them all night.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 21:07:12
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 8 2008, 08:59 PM) [snapback]398702[/snapback]
I did before I posted ohmy.gif

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Surely you weren't shocked-it's not that uncommon you know. We once had a guy in casualty with a bottle stuck up his arse. he said 'he fell on it'!!!
mortonjag 2008-02-08 21:12:17
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 8 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]398709[/snapback]
What did the half naked burd say that he arrived with ohmy.gif

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mortonjag 2008-02-08 21:36:09 The role of the monkey in human negotiatons.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 21:46:17
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 8 2008, 08:48 PM) [snapback]398684[/snapback]
Just incase anyone was interested but hadn't seen it there's a job going in the Tele tonight. No experience necessary just good English and knowledge of football.

That's Dougie Rae ruled out on one count and Jim McInally on another

Both ruled out on both!
mortonjag 2008-02-08 21:59:23
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 8 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]398724[/snapback]
My old band, Basically Jazz, has broken up. I have a new band - same drummer and singer plus me on various saxes + clarinet + a new keyboard guy and a girl bass player. Looking for a name for the band which does not too heavy jazz and standards. Any suggestions?

Shoogly and the Muppettes?

Seriously you'll need to give us a few more clues-what message do you want to get over to the punters-what's their average age -do they come FOR the music,or is it just a pleasant background etc.,etc.

I always liked the 'Four skint Jews'but you have five!

HA-Nick and the Four Skint Jews.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 22:12:23
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 8 2008, 10:09 PM) [snapback]398734[/snapback]
Failed aye? wink.gif

No he's still preparing it-the deadline's next Friday,and he's hoping for a one to one with Mr Rae before then.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 22:20:19
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 8 2008, 10:17 PM) [snapback]398744[/snapback]
Or just ask him in person, the worst he can do is not answer the question, then you know he's hiding something.

His hearing aid.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 22:23:39 Banana Hand.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 22:27:24 Quintessence
mortonjag 2008-02-08 22:33:59 Dick C Land.

Jeely Piece Morton
mortonjag 2008-02-08 22:51:02
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 8 2008, 10:33 PM) [snapback]398755[/snapback]
There you go again digging me up for my notorious non-specificity. rolleyes.gif

In my earlier references to the general underfunding of the NHS I should have made it clear that that included the training of future doctors and nursing staff.

Apologies for the oversight.

Ignorance!!!

Doctors are NOT trained by the NHS. The various medical faculties of our Universities are funded entirely separately.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 23:07:05
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 8 2008, 11:00 PM) [snapback]398762[/snapback]
And I didn't say they were. rolleyes.gif

I meant that the general underfunding of the Health System included the training of doctors and nurses. I accept your point however that they come from separate budgets.

As I said in my previous posting, apologies for my non specificity.

The Universities are totally independent of any 'Health System'!!!

You are just f*cking wrong!

Further education budgeting is global and not targeted at any faculty.

Furthermore, a medical degree obliges NOBODY to work within the NHS, or for that matter, to even practice medicine in Thailand or Timbucktoo, or EVER.

Most nurses are trained within the NHS.

Degree course nurses are not.
mortonjag 2008-02-09 07:27:32
QUOTE(marx @ Feb 9 2008, 01:30 AM) [snapback]398790[/snapback]
The Beatles

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mortonjag 2008-02-09 07:28:43 Fundamentally jazz!

Discombobulation

DDFART
mortonjag 2008-02-09 07:45:37
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 9 2008, 06:14 AM) [snapback]398805[/snapback]
we seemed to have an understanding going up until now, why would you break it for something like this.

don't refer to my posts again and keep away from me in general.

How will I recognise you? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-09 07:47:57
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 9 2008, 06:19 AM) [snapback]398806[/snapback]
jesus h. christ.

....hates Marmite? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-09 07:50:50
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Feb 9 2008, 12:31 AM) [snapback]398785[/snapback]
Can't remember the title exactly but mine was something to do with the Coen brothers films and theology. I had glandular fever when I wrote it last year, I enjoyed it when I wasn't falling asleep with exhaustion laugh.gif sad.gif

I've got another to write this summer, I'm actually quite looking forward to writing it. Not that I know what I'll be writing about yet, I've got 5 essays to get out the way first.

laugh.gif

Most people find infectious mononucleosis unpleasant.

Mind you dissertations DO knock the stuffing out of one!
mortonjag 2008-02-09 07:57:08
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 9 2008, 12:51 AM) [snapback]398786[/snapback]
If you wanted to teach a bunch of impressionable youngsters how to play cricket and Ian Botham was offering his services, you'd probably give him the job.*

A guy who won the UEFA Cup with Ipswich Town and was runner-up in the old Division One two seasons on the trot (1981 & 1982, no mean feat for a relatvely small club); captained England to a World Cup Semi-Final as well as captaining Rangers to three league titles in four seasons after such a barren spell for the Ibrox club is a guy that has achieved something in the game.

As a manager, his appointments at both Coventry and Sunderland were both premature to say the least. He was younger than David Beckham or Robbie Fowler is today when he took the Coventry job amidst the euphoria of World Cup 1990 success, and the Sunderland job back in the early 1990s was a poisoned chalice, he got the job for the same wrong reasons that got him the Coventry job and was doomed to failure from the start.
We all know the story of him taking over Motherwell when the obscene Johnny Boyle/Nevin/Davies/Black roadshow pissed away a fortune leaving them potless and in administration, he regrouped a squad of young players and got them to very respectable positions in the SPL, and left the club in a more sound financial state having sold players which he'd nurtured like McFadden and Pearson, as well as getting them to a league cup final en route. i dont know too much about his achievements (or lack of them) at Sydney FC or Brentford, therefore I cant really comment on them.
He is respected throughout the game by players, managers, supporters and the media alike by hunners of folk that know the game better than myself or any stattos out there who'd like to pick flaws in his achievements, but it is safe to say that for a club of our level, which in the great scheme of things is barely on a par with a Blue Square Premier League outfit, when you have a vacancy and a guy of his standing is available and within your means, then he is a decent shout. Maybe not everyones preferred choice, but a decent shout nontheless.
*edit to add: Not the best analogy i suppose, but you know what i mean. smile.gif



Haud on mate-yer losin thae marbles-the guys f*ckin' ENGLISH FFS

'Oh flower of Scotland.... ph34r.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-09 08:08:15
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 8 2008, 11:29 PM) [snapback]398772[/snapback]
every single morton fan would have took Ryan Mcguffie in a hearbeat when the transfer window opened, he has to come good.....surely.

It's a mystery-the guy's record speaks for itself-he's been playing against SPL sides and it seems he wanted to come to us.I've been bitterly disappointed with him-it's just the Jamie Stevenson scenario being repeated, and I DON'T believe either of those guys have deliberately been shirking.

Somebody else commented that Ryan's looked 'lost' and I agree-surely it's GOT to be down to the coaching staff.

Today we face what may well be a watershed against Clyde I know John Brown will have his guys fired up-I can almost hear his words-'Stop them playing and hit them on the break'-not exactly rocket science!

Meanwhile JM will be frantically reading his Horoscope and praying that Shoogly will pick the side again today.
mortonjag 2008-02-09 08:17:38 Here's an interesting point to debate gentlemen.

Every time we have a long running thread, or a poll which criticises the Chairman or the Manager, the usual eejits claim that our forum is not representative of the opinion of Morton fans in general.

Every time we have a 'crunch' game like today's-guys like yourselves correctly point out that we should be getting behind the lads from the start-and the rest of the forum agrees.

Does it happen?

Does it F*CK! mad.gif

If ever proof was needed that greenockmorton.org IS the home of the true Morton fans, I reckon that's it.
mortonjag 2008-02-09 08:20:50
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Feb 9 2008, 07:54 AM) [snapback]398816[/snapback]
we will win today..............................3-0 I reckon, very low crowd though

Aye right-but you also reckon Mr Somers is a PYUF unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-09 08:44:22
QUOTE(lemmington @ Feb 9 2008, 08:33 AM) [snapback]398824[/snapback]
greenockmorton.org is the only HOME for mortonjag

How right you are, and don't believe a word I've written before. If you are at Cappielow today, look across to the car park and you may just spot a ramshackle shed in the faraway corner-and BTW it's f*ckin' freezin' in here. All I posses is a monkey, and an old laptop-how are the mighty fallen. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-09 09:06:19
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Feb 9 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]398823[/snapback]
I told her not to eat cheese before bedtime!!! smile.gif

Hmm, Boozehound suspiciously quiet. I reckon he's got the jackpot and f***ed off to Thailand to bum ladyboys.

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Is Boozie a pufe? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-09 09:14:17 by Roger Graham



MORTON boss Jim McInally will make changes in his side for tomorrow��‚��„�s key First Division match against Clyde at Cappielow.

And the Greenock manager said: ��‚��“To win would be brilliant. We��‚��„�ve had too many hard luck stories. We have to start scoring goals and play better final balls.��‚��

One of the changes will involve moving Ryan McGuffie into a defence which has been leaking goals this season. The Ton boss said: ��‚��“We are putting him back, especially for this game. He��‚��„�s played there a lot for Gretna.��‚��

One of the motivating factors in the player coming to Cappielow was that he was assured he would be playing in centre midfield, but the Morton manager explained: ��‚��“It��‚��„�s a stop-gap measure, and the player is professional enough to accept it.��‚��

Definitely in the team will be Barry Smith, who had to leave the field last week after a knee ballooned up. ��‚��“He has responded well to treatment,��‚�� said McInally.

The Cappielow boss, only too well aware of the importance of the match, continued: Allan Jenkins will make his debut in the centre of midfield.

It sometimes takes three or four weeks for new players to gel with the rest, so a win of any kind tomorrow would be great, and would put us back in the pack in the middle of the league.��‚��

There was respect, though, for Clyde, two points adrift of Morton in second bottom spot. ��‚��“They��‚��„�ve been written off many times over the last couple of seasons but have shown resilience. They are hard to beat, and that��‚��„�s what we��‚��„�ve got to be.

��‚��“It��‚��„�s consistency of performance and results we need.

��‚��“I��‚��„�ve said to the players this week that with us it seems to be either black or white. We need a grey area. We need to learn to grind out results.��‚��

Three points tomorrow would be the perfect starting point.




We need a f*ckin'purple patch more like, and what's this crap about 'grinding out results', Mr McInally-where have we heard that before-wake up man-it's no longer the second division where your stubborn 'grinding' gave us some of the least entertaining football for years.

Did we 'grind out' the victory at Palmerston recently-no-we had our tails up,played attractive football, and scored three goals.

Is that not what football's supposed to be about-is that not WHAT THE FANS PAY TO SEE? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-09 09:33:15
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Feb 9 2008, 09:20 AM) [snapback]398834[/snapback]
Hi Boys some we **** slashed my tiers in the east end last night anyone know anywhere that do home calls.

Need 6 tiers between 3 cars

McOnickys cant do it till Monday

Pedro-e-tyres have a mobile service based in Paisley-I can't find one in Inverclyde-if you go on line you can check availability and when they can do it for you, though they might not be willing to come that far.
mortonjag 2008-02-09 09:43:14
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 9 2008, 09:23 AM) [snapback]398835[/snapback]
Newton rides again. Did you type that in all by yourself?

Edit to add:
http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/article...=2&id=19651

No you cheeky c*nt-the monkey did, and I think it's a bloody good effort for a wee monkey.

Anyhow, what's so clever about 'clickies'?

You still have to use the link and then come back to our forum.

The monkey says you're a dick! laugh.gif

mortonjag 2008-02-09 09:44:52
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 9 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]398841[/snapback]
It's been done.

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2008-02-09 10:02:45
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 9 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]398850[/snapback]
But aspiring to be a Trumpet tongue.gif

Aye Willow-I've heard about this guy Dick Trumpet-apparently he's a poosy who thinks the streets of London are paved with gold.
mortonjag 2008-02-09 10:09:18
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Feb 9 2008, 09:59 AM) [snapback]398852[/snapback]
Andy Goram as goalkeeping coach

Herald story

Altogether now - "There's only two..."

You don't seem very impressed my asinine friend. You may not rate Goram, or Brown, or Clyde, but it at least looks as though their manager is being allowed to do SOMETHING to sort out the mess they're in. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-09 10:12:17
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Feb 9 2008, 10:09 AM) [snapback]398860[/snapback]
motorcare have it.

the police are hopeless reported it and got an inceden number after complning we got a direct line to the port police station. (that thay gave us the last time)

we are playing tetres withe tierys all day.

8 cars at lesst done last nite

Terrible what some guys will do when they're desperate for a slash!
mortonjag 2008-02-09 10:13:39 Who says he's guilty?
mortonjag 2008-02-09 10:27:40
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 9 2008, 10:21 AM) [snapback]398878[/snapback]
You mean they're not tongue.gif

Most are not!
mortonjag 2008-02-09 10:32:44
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Feb 9 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]398879[/snapback]
Willowman says it was Jim McInally wink.gif

Aye he said he'd be going for bust this weekend.
mortonjag 2008-02-09 10:35:30 organic sweetcorn
mortonjag 2008-02-09 10:39:13
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Feb 9 2008, 10:21 AM) [snapback]398877[/snapback]
sure, i wasn't being cheeky!

Sorry oh mighty Donkey...it's just, you're usually good for exclusives!!! smile.gif

Possibly gets them straight from the horse's mouth. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-09 10:57:22
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 9 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]398892[/snapback]
I never said they weren't. laugh.gif

My word you're an argumentative auld bugger right enough. wink.gif

I'll try and keep this simple....... when I referred to underfunding of health in the UK I meant that as the being in the provision of health in general, including the NHS and in the training of doctors which, as you have pointed out, is performed outside the NHS by universtities.

I thought I'd made that clear in the last two posts. Hope that's cleared up that little confusion once and for all. rolleyes.gif

laugh.gif

You did a hell of a lot of wriggling and squirming before you told me what 'you meant'.

It's hardly an earth shattering revelation that the provision of every public service in this great land of ours is underfunded.

After all-we're skint!
mortonjag 2008-02-09 11:04:39 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
This stuff always amuses me. I met a girl on a course once and she asked where I lived. At that time our house was in the leafy Mearns, so I replied 'in the South Side'.

'Oh', she remarked-'that's a coincidence-so do I'.

'Really', I rejoined, 'whereabouts exactly'?

She looked a wee bit uncomfortable, but burst into a wicked grin as she replied 'Govan'!

She was, of course, correct.
mortonjag 2008-02-09 11:21:00
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 9 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]398897[/snapback]
There is more than enough wealth in the UK to provide a world class health service.

It's just that the people don't want to pay for it.

Perhaps you'll explain what 'YOU MEAN'.

I'd be happy with a proper two tier service-a private sector totally separate from the NHS where your wealthy buggers could get first class treatment, and a state funded service for the poor c*nts who haven't got the dough.

That's life!
mortonjag 2008-02-09 11:24:16
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 9 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]398899[/snapback]
Crookfur is not 'leafy Mearns', its a scheme of roughcast Lawrence boxes. rolleyes.gif

Stop showing off. wink.gif

10 Easdale place Ryelands my friend-cost me an arm and a leg in 1990 and now worth well over half a million. Still just a Wimpey box mind you!
mortonjag 2008-02-09 11:26:00
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 9 2008, 11:12 AM) [snapback]398902[/snapback]
Surely if this is the case it's a clear sign that he can't be 'rehabilitated', so he should just be exterminated?

Is this man guilty?
mortonjag 2008-02-09 12:16:12
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 9 2008, 11:39 AM) [snapback]398919[/snapback]
That's not the system I was meaning.

In Holland for example everyone gets the same (excellent) level of health care irrespective of their income.

Up to a certain income you subscribe to the public 'ziekenfonds' which is a subsidised fund where the costs for the individual and his or her family is relatively modest. The unemployed, elderly and those who are for whatever reason unable to work are also covered automatically by 'ziekenfonds'.

Above that income you are however compelled to take out private health insurance which although much more expensive than the 'ziekenfonds' is subsidised by the employer. It's still quite expensive though - from memory I think I was paying about €300 per month for the whole family before I left there in 2002. I didn't grudge a cent of that though, because I new that if any of us needed it we would have one of the best healthcare systems in the world at our disposal. You can't put a price on life and peace of mind.

Private insurance does not give you preferential treatment so it's not the 'two-tier' public-private system you're used to in the UK. The only extra benefits that private insurance may entitle you to are things like a private room in Hospital if you choose to pay more for that, but the level of health care is universal and available to all.

That's the kind of system I was meaning.

A means tested NHS in other words-fine by me-we're agreed on something!
mortonjag 2008-02-09 12:17:39
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 9 2008, 11:28 AM) [snapback]398913[/snapback]
Stop showing off. tongue.gif

Wood eye?
mortonjag 2008-02-09 12:24:49
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 9 2008, 11:56 AM) [snapback]398927[/snapback]
I pretty much agree with this. If we needed defenders (which most of us think we do) then why did we not sign one in the window? If Martin Canning is still a free agent we should sign him till the end of the season to see how he holds up injury wise. If he's any good he can get signed up longer term in the summer.

I just think its crass to sign someone as a midfielder and within a month start using him as a defender
.

...but nothing new-a further demonstration that JM appears rather dim.
mortonjag 2008-02-09 13:06:48
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 9 2008, 12:56 PM) [snapback]398969[/snapback]
Got this on a text a few days ago.

Paddy wakes up in hospital a few days after a car accident
doctor says i've some good news & some bad news for you paddy, the bad news is we've had to give you 10 pints of african blood & 5 pints of polish blood during your transfusion.

f***in hell says paddy, what's the good news ?
Well says the doctor, your dick's 3 inches longer & your now top of the housing list.

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mortonjag 2008-02-09 13:10:23 Money!

I'd just buy Morton, become the new Shoogly, and leave the forum to find its successor to mortonjag!
mortonjag 2008-02-09 13:17:43
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 9 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]398891[/snapback]
It's you that's losing his marbles he was born on 28th December 1958 in SINGAPORE !!!
Yep that's right slanty eyed country. He had plastic surgery to correct his tongue.gif

So why is he called Butcher and not Wan Hung Lo?
mortonjag 2008-02-09 13:21:58
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Feb 9 2008, 12:52 PM) [snapback]398965[/snapback]
The goal floodgates will be opened.

Brown and Goram will be too busy singing the sash and giving each other funny handshakes to notice as Brian Wake swiftly scores 10 minutes in with a header, a spoonsy rocket before halftime and RUssell comes on to get a much needed confidence boosting poachers effort.

3 nil Morton.....

...but JM is too busy counting bloody beads and speaking to some female to notice, and they score four in the last five minutes! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-09 18:27:23 I thught Wake was pretty useless-this is the man JM claimed he'd 'wanted for a while'. Leafy should have come on at half time.

I also can't understand why Harding wasn't at least on the bench-was he injured? Clyde were dire and still got at least two free headers which they squandered.

We have NEVER learned to kill a game off-even with Jenkins who seemed to fade a bit but was a huge influence,we couldn't get the impetus to finish them off. JM was girning his face off at Spoonsy in the last ten minutes-why did he not sub him with the fresh legs of Brian Graham?

I felt a bit sorry for the players today-we were always on top, but we're going nowhere with McInally. The only reason Rae won't sack him is to avoid paying compensation,and for that reason he'll probably still be here next week. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-09 18:37:56
QUOTE(Capuan @ Feb 9 2008, 06:16 PM) [snapback]399241[/snapback]
Was speaking to a season ticket holder at Hamilton last week and he thanked profusely for taking Brian Wake off them. In his opinion Wake was the worst player in their side who can't pass, can't header, can't control the ball and certainly can't score.

This fiasco of replacing Templeman with Wake is an absolute joke. Another shocker from McInally.

Couldn't agree more-Rae pulled in the purse strings, so they happily let Sanny go,and brought in this Hamilton reject whom JM claimed he's 'wanted for a while'. Maybe now those who were never off Sanny's back will realise the power of work he did do,and I've always believed he and Leafy could have formed a partnership.
mortonjag 2008-02-09 21:40:44
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 9 2008, 06:12 PM) [snapback]399230[/snapback]
I actually thought Wake has brought a bit to the team imo mate, his first touch and control seem better than what Sannys and Russells are. He's not scared to get in amongst it and pushes his way about a bit. He showed plenty of dig for the most part then tired before he went off. I think he'll do ok.

That is about the cruellest piece of crap I've heard all season. Wake doesn't appear to have a f*cking first touch- Brian Graham was TWICE as effective as him at Palmerston and he didn't even get a start.

It's rare for me to slate individual players-I'm not really angry at the boy himself just the clowns who panic bought him and are trying to justify their crass stupidity.
mortonjag 2008-02-09 21:53:37
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Feb 9 2008, 08:16 PM) [snapback]399505[/snapback]
The Inverclydenow site states that the Chairman and the Manager will be meeting again on Monday. The Chairman and perhaps the manager, I don't know cos I am not there either, are both at the annual Golden Casket soiree in the Tontine Hotel tonight - seems unlikely that anything was decided this afternoon.

After a run of dismal results like we have had there will always be a clamouring for the managers head. Speculation in the media or on here will not affect the mind of the man who makes the decisions, namely DDF.

It should all be made clear on Monday.

I doubt if a Donkey sized dose of antipsychotics could cure 'the man who makes the decisions', and remember, tail bearer, HE is ultimately responsible for our current plight.
mortonjag 2008-02-09 22:01:26
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 9 2008, 07:37 PM) [snapback]399401[/snapback]
I would actually like to see that - I ike Jim Duffy . A True Morton Great !

Rat deserts sinking ship.

You are a despicable little turd Gillan. For an eternity you've been rubbishing JM critics-accusing them of 'vendettas' and reassuring us all that Macca just needed time.

Where's your optimism and positivity now you little scumbag?
mortonjag 2008-02-09 22:15:18
QUOTE(grnklad2006ton @ Feb 9 2008, 06:03 PM) [snapback]399189[/snapback]
I agree mate and to tell you the truth i think everyone at cappielow today will agree with you. However no matter how much we want jim out the door on this site and how we all wish he would just piss aff, theres not a soul on here who can do anything about it. Its up to Mr Rae and i can't see him doing anything about it im sad to say, he s done nothing up till this point so whats gonna change now, for me JM's time was up weeks ago. Got a feeling Rae will leave it too late to kick his ass out the door, infact maybe when we are in division 2 next year he will realise he should have sacked jim. Hope your reading this site Rae ya toffie making poofter mad.gif mad.gif .

ohmy.gif

Come, come, he may be an elderly fudge packer, but that's just naughty. Do you have a personal vendetta against the clubs most ardent and passionate fan?

Don't forget this is all JM's fault-nothing to do with the man who can walk from Fort Matilda to Kilkreggan as the crow flies! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-09 22:19:15 Happy Harry hits the Huff Button! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-09 22:34:28
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Feb 9 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]399275[/snapback]
i voted no, the reason is that this is just a daft wee poll on an internet forum, what are you trying to achieve ? do you think dougie is going to sack mcinally with the reason of "well jim i'm going to have to let you go because i seen this poll on the internet from people with made up names and they all said you should go" if you believe that then you are deluded. I have said on a few occasions that to get him to take notice direct action must be taken, whether it be a boycott of games, late entry to games, chanting from the terraces right through to sending dougie an e-mail with your real name on it, letting him know how you feel. If i'm wrong and he does get sacked because of this poll then i shall come back and eat this post. Happy polling kids tongue.gif

Did he not obey the instructions in your e-mail Daddy? wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-09 22:55:44 I know-it's going to cost a lot of money-maybe you could sneak in in the wee small hours and raid that Golden Casket, and kid on there was a burglary.

There again you could open that big wooden box under the bed when the Mrs is giving it big ZZZ's, and stop your fellow shareholders from going loopy.

Either way your puppet is now stringing you along and it's past time for him to go.

Don't fret about what others think-it's your club, and you can do exactly what you please.

The fans will be eternally grateful for everything you did and continue to do at immense personal expense all because you love yourself them so much.

Persevere with Jim the Dim and save the pennies if you must.

There again you could always wait and sack him after next Saturday's defeat-perhaps that would be kinder when he'll be closer to his friends and family.

Sweet dreams.
mortonjag 2008-02-09 23:03:17
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 9 2008, 10:35 PM) [snapback]399709[/snapback]
BTT
What say you, mortonjag?

The monkey came up with a bright idea-he reckons a £500 per man win bonus and empty dugout till May would guarantee a top five spot. Somehow he's worked out that that would cost half the price of a Gowsa!
mortonjag 2008-02-09 23:15:01
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 9 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]399298[/snapback]
This is very annoying. Just because Wake is poor that does not mean that Sanny is suddenly a better player than he was when he left.

I think it was definately the correct decision to let him go as he just couldn't cut it in this division, as he has found out himself on several occasions.

Wake isn't the ideal replacement but Sanny was by no means our savior for this predicament.

That is extremely unfair-week after week Templeman was left up front as target man, and put in a power of work, displaying close control and holding up ability light years ahead of Wake's. The fact is that he was never used to advantage because of JM's bizarre tactics and team selections.

In my opinion, only a fool can possibly think he was not at least worthy of a place in the squad. He was released to save cash-plain and simple.
mortonjag 2008-02-09 23:20:17
QUOTE(kingtiffin @ Feb 9 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]399711[/snapback]
stevenson does not want to be here and since he quit running the under 17s he has been black ball by
the general or what ever he is mr everything .

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If he 'doesn't want to be here, would you care to explain why?
mortonjag 2008-02-09 23:22:59 Why is Rae in a poll for a NEW manager? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-10 00:02:03
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 9 2008, 10:10 PM) [snapback]399678[/snapback]
Quote:

"Being brutally honest, we took too long to realise we needed a few more experienced players..."

Than is an unforgivable statement, given that they should have known the capibilities of the team after the past three seasons of managing them
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Messing around with guys like f***ing Bangle McClung was Jim McInallys way of begging for a pay-off, the tragic thing is that it has taken so long for it to happen and it has been another wasted season for Morton.

Is is sickening, it really is.

If Mr Rae and those two clowns of his had listened to many of the posters on this 'rag' two and more years ago, they'd have heard us PLEADING time, after time, after time, to bring in two or three 'old heads'.

'Don't you think those boys deserve the chance to take us forward' Rae asked-not asking but telling.

Now Clark admits it wasn't just the old dodder's fault-he's been 'brutally honest' about himself and his buffoon buddy and in so doing has damned them.

Does he really mean what he says-I'm honestly gobsmacked-they COULDN'T SEE IT!!!!!

If ever we needed an indictment of a pair of failed wannabe football managers, we now have it in black and white.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 00:12:36
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 10 2008, 12:03 AM) [snapback]399760[/snapback]
I've never been so proud, as to be put on ignore by a Gillan. biggrin.gif

Go me!

Not just A Gillan, but super slimy snake Gillan of the forked brown tongue.

One prong has secretly slithered out of JM's arse with a sickening slurp, and will no doubt join its fellow half way up Rae's sigmoid colon quicker than a sh*t hits the water..
mortonjag 2008-02-10 00:16:36
QUOTE(dmc @ Feb 10 2008, 12:13 AM) [snapback]399766[/snapback]
You two are like a f***ing double act!!
Quit sucking each other off, we know what has to be done and we don't need you two twats telling us constantly!!!



Excellent your majesty-when will you be performing the deed?
mortonjag 2008-02-10 00:19:52
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Feb 10 2008, 12:18 AM) [snapback]399771[/snapback]
You mean - someone was doing tactics today!?

Aye JM was distracting Shoogly while Clark changed the dates on the P45s.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 00:21:15
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Dec 28 2007, 11:19 AM) [snapback]371760[/snapback]
But we are only 4 points away from 3rd, it's a tight league as i would have expected it to be so im not surprised.

Willowman where did you expect us to be at this point in the season? Flying high in 4th place miles away from the play off's bare in mind we have just been promoted.

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mortonjag 2008-02-10 00:23:03
QUOTE(dmc @ Feb 10 2008, 12:20 AM) [snapback]399773[/snapback]
And don't you f***ing forget it !! tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-02-10 00:25:53
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 9 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]399184[/snapback]
I thought Jim was quite good today... if memory serves he could have done more for the first goal, but then again he maybe shouldn't have been played in that position in any case.

I thought Smith was dreadful. I think he flatters to deceive - to his credit he gets in the right place at the right time for some balls, but for a so-called veteran he has very little composure. Neither he nor Greacen is willing to put in a tackle until it's far too late, either.

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Guess it's all about opinions Nach0-I still don't think he's match fit, but he's easily the most composed defender in the whole squad.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 00:28:53
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 9 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]399299[/snapback]
The last player Morton signed to immediately appoint as captain was Stuart McCluskey.

I think the club won't do that again, and will instead wait until the end of the season.

Disagree-Jenkins was out there running things today in his first match. McCluskey was a lazy big shyster.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 00:32:26
QUOTE(dmc @ Feb 10 2008, 12:29 AM) [snapback]399783[/snapback]
Which one?? unsure.gif

Manky's been mirror gazing again.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 00:36:03
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 10 2008, 12:29 AM) [snapback]399782[/snapback]
I think I know what it is that grates me about MortonJag. It's not that he's constantly on about Dougie Rae but instead of just mentioning it one of the other threads he feels the need to create his big thread to get everyone attention complete with witty comic asides.

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I haven't read a comic in years.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 00:39:18 Today's fall guy is McGurn!



NEXT! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-10 00:43:38
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 10 2008, 12:34 AM) [snapback]399792[/snapback]
sorry 14 000 and the rest. no doubt the original guess will be accurate before the night is out.

p***k.

Voyeur and narcissist, or just the full fish supper on your shoulders son?

Time to grow up. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-10 00:45:43
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Feb 10 2008, 12:33 AM) [snapback]399789[/snapback]
People make their own minds up at their own speed. No reason to have a pop at Scott for seeing the light.

I'd never 'have a pop at someone' just because he was a myopic fool, but myopic fools who have pops at the perfectly sighted deserve both barrels.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 07:16:14
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 10 2008, 12:50 AM) [snapback]399805[/snapback]
f*** off, you tedious, arrogant, arrogant f***.


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Simultaneously bored and agitated-yet another manky conundrum from another wannabe medic! dry.gif

Life would be a little bowl of cherries chez le Chien Manquee if all posters hailed the supremacy of his wisdom and penetrative wit.

....talking of which, I wonder if his neighbours have been shagging again?
mortonjag 2008-02-10 07:28:07
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 10 2008, 12:58 AM) [snapback]399808[/snapback]
I can see where you are going with this , young Scott hs shown a huge amount of faith in a guy who hs delivered little , however the end of the day as much as I like reading your rebukes against uppity youffs we are all still well in the smelly stuff .

There are far bigger idiots who have alot more power than SG who will decide the next move , if any at all should be taken . It is getting others to realise that you get poor employees because higher up the chain there are problems .

Whoever comes in will have to be their own man which won't sit well with Shoogily .

Very true, and in fairness to young Gillan, I think he was at least sincerely upset because he DID have faith, but that is not an excuse for repeatedly abusing somebody who knew better.

If you've a spare five minutes this morning and check every post I've ever made, you'll find that I NEVER personally attack another poster just for his opinions.

Let's be brutally honest though Chris-this is an internet message board-not a convention of cultured gentlefolk-and if others see fit to unfairly attack the monkey, he can hardly be blamed for going ape at times.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 07:40:51
QUOTE(El Duderino @ Feb 9 2008, 08:25 PM) [snapback]399523[/snapback]
I don't think there were any "bad" performances.

Graecen had a few hairy moments but did his duties when called on...

I just feel somethings wrong when you play 5 midfielders and struggle to string 3 passes together... blink.gif

QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 9 2008, 08:17 PM) *
Although he didn't deserve it, being a total f*cking bear doesn't exclude him from criticism. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-10 07:52:24
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 10 2008, 05:23 AM) [snapback]399877[/snapback]
It was clearly staged to look like there was passion in the ranks. If it was real then McGurn would have lamped Millar into next week.

Besides, as Manky said, Millar is no great shakes. Being on a calendar, hitting form for a few games and having the worlds greatest hairstylist does not make you a good player

I like Pepperamis, especially the flaming hot ones. They make yer arse sting the next day right enough.

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They burn my mouth.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 07:55:47
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 10 2008, 02:26 AM) [snapback]399853[/snapback]
Garbage! Wake has started two games, after half a dozen games and he's still not producing anything lets hang him out to dry then. We've gave Sanny a run, done nothing, Russells had his shot, produced nothing, Peter produced more goals at right back than Sanny and Russell did collectively. Russells had more than enough time to prove himself this season, he runs about and moans all the time, goes to ground to easily and any opportunity he gets to finish is more than likely to fail to convert it. Other than running about like a busy fool what does he bring?

You need a striker thats willing to get in amongst defenders and mix it up a bit, thats what other teams have done to us this season. Look at the mess Harding got into at the QOS cup game, they leaned on him and he made the mistake that led to their first goal.

What tempo? We canny keep a ball longer than 2 or 3 passes to build up any tempo!

We're 2nd bottom of the league with the 2nd best discipline record??? What does that show you? No guts and no fight! Guys like Bobby Thompson and Roddy Hutchinson mixed it up and it didnt do us any harm, give the guy another few games and if he's still not bringing anything new to the table then roast him.

Correct and the club which had the wisdom to release Khali is top! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-10 08:00:49
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 10 2008, 05:26 AM) [snapback]399878[/snapback]
not sure but all i know is that since smith was signed (not as a replacement in the defense but to add to it) we've dropped our other three defenders. i still cant get my head around that if JM knew they werent good enough then why didnt he bring in another defender in the transfer window?.

Walker's back in training.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 08:04:38
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 10 2008, 05:33 AM) [snapback]399884[/snapback]
Doc, gonna chuck it with the Leafy thing. It's s***e.

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Boozie-most of my posts are s***e, but I do like LEAFY

Once the new manager comes LEAFY will start knocking in the goals and nobody will even bat an eyelid if I call him a ridiculous name like ostrich or beany.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 08:14:11
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 10 2008, 01:31 AM) [snapback]399835[/snapback]
Ahem, Where were you outside Forthbank?

If you remember, at that time JM had almost 80% of the fans behind him, and Chrissiboi, myself and a few others others were taking abuse right left and centre for daring to call the manager in question.

Suddenly-almost overnight-there was an about turn, and the manager's popularity plummeted, but it only lasted briefly, and by the end of the season it was pats on the back all round and Rae being tossed in the air at Kirkcaldy after we blew that match.

There is only a small number who appear to have seen right through Rae and JM from early on.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 08:37:17
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Feb 9 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]399004[/snapback]
Well put....I have lived in the West End for 22 years and had to pay through the nose for it.I came from Larkfield, Devon Road and it was a great place to grow up. I just wanted to live in a nice safe and central area and as I said before, had to pay to do so as I didn't want to live in a Housing scheme, now they are building one around us and we have had no say in the matter. Suddenly it has become a very unsafe place to live. Something changed unsure.gif

It's not exactly new LL.

When I was six my parents who were pretty skint (with four weans to feed and clothe on a teacher's salary) moved from the rented top flat room and kitchen in the Port to a brand new semi detached Council house in Bardrainney.

They were 'over the moon'-kitchen, lounge, three bedrooms and a bathroom, with a garden back and front-it seemed like paradise when compared to those dingy tenements down opposite Lithgows.

What they did not know was that the Cooncil had adopted a deliberate policy for this scheme-a policy of mixing respectable families with those who had a record of anti social behaviour. So it was that we ended up stuck between the Lynches who were degenerate if not deliberately offensive tinkers, and the McPhees who were a shower of psychopaths.

My folks were devastated- they stayed for under two years till they scraped together enough to put down a deposit on a flat in Kilmacolm.

I'm sure you feel a sense of powerlessness-almost of being raped-when the area you love is devalued by outside forces. The only answer seems to be to buy your own country mansion complete with armed guards and roaming rotweilers.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 08:46:14
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Feb 9 2008, 01:11 PM) [snapback]398986[/snapback]
You'd probably still come on here ranting at yourself, you mad old cnt! smile.gif

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Truth is Donga I'm quite happy with what I've got and I don't do lotteries. I guess if I did have that kind of money I WOULD buy the Ton, but no way would I try to run it myself, and you're right, I'd probably still post on here!

Do you think everybody would love me as much as Shoogly? wub.gif sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-10 09:07:53
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 10 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]399898[/snapback]
Due to this vacancy arising Jim McInally has now left Scapa to join The Tele rolleyes.gif

His first two page illustrated spread is to be entitled.

Why Rae must go!
mortonjag 2008-02-10 09:51:10
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Feb 10 2008, 09:24 AM) [snapback]399901[/snapback]
I think OFFSIDE would be a more appropriate name for Russell.

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That's so true but so cruel-his team mates also have to learn when to release the ball!
mortonjag 2008-02-10 09:58:22
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Feb 10 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]399902[/snapback]
They have tried that over the last 50 years and it has been proven time and time again, they drag the areas down.

My mum(84) has lived in town centre for 10 years, bought her flat had wonderful neighbours then people started selling their flats to Buy to Let. It has turned into a slum in just 2 years. It is sad to watch.

Indeed, I've witnessed two or three areas in Glasgow devastated over a relatively short space of time. When scum move in the decent folks eventually move out, if and when they can. There's something inherently unfair in that.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 12:44:32
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 10 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]399943[/snapback]
Stop trying to remake yourself into a horny handed son of toil you bourgeois rentier you. I'm looking out of my window into crookfur. It may not have been arboreal when you were there, it certainly is now.

My neighbour among those stripling trees was none other than 'Bomber' Brown. Saw him yesterday for the first time in about fifteen years, and was saddened by the deforestation!
mortonjag 2008-02-10 12:50:58
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 10 2008, 10:15 AM) [snapback]399920[/snapback]
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I knew the moronjag was like that but chrissiboi as well ? unsure.gif laugh.gif

I have asked you repeatedly not to mention that liaison. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-10 12:55:44
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 10 2008, 10:09 AM) [snapback]399916[/snapback]
You really are a tosser aren't you ?

If & when a new manager comes in i'm gonna start a thread saying how crap he is & how he'll f*** it up (cos he will eventually), 99% of managers do.

You're not a genious for pointing this out, so get your head out your arse ya senile out fool.

Whatever made you think I claimed to be a genius for stating the obvious?
mortonjag 2008-02-10 12:57:32
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 10 2008, 10:14 AM) [snapback]399919[/snapback]
blah blah blah.

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mortonjag 2008-02-10 12:58:58
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Feb 10 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]399925[/snapback]
that was harsh mj. if you don't personally attack someone just for their opinion then what was that about

Revenge! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-10 12:59:58
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 10 2008, 10:36 AM) [snapback]399948[/snapback]
MJ runs by his own rules, don't you know? rolleyes.gif dry.gif

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Correct I have the Mods in my pocket! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-10 13:05:01
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Feb 10 2008, 11:42 AM) [snapback]399990[/snapback]
Jenkins looks a good box to box player who has great strength on the ball and a fair amount of skill to boot. He interacted well with the crowd, geeing up the cowshed a couple of times which will hopefully renew the link between the players and fans which has been lacking for a little while now.

He has only played one game for us, but I was impressed yesterday and to be honest, if the game had only lasted 89 minutes, there would have been so many positives to take. However, the disgraceful way that we lost the game overshaddows so much of the good things we did yesterday. Hopefully a new manager will come in and turn things around, because we showed what we are capable of in patches yesterday.

I was impressed too-you'd have thought he'd been here all season-leading by example and giving vocal advice and encouragement, AND looking as though he WANTED to win!
mortonjag 2008-02-10 13:07:43
QUOTE(ianton @ Feb 10 2008, 10:13 AM) [snapback]399918[/snapback]
Russell is just another mediocre second division player that we have purchased.he is absolute s***e.all he does is run about like a headless chicken.we have a knack of bringing in so called good players from divisions below us.now they have all been shipped out again.Russell will be next

Time will tell!
mortonjag 2008-02-10 13:10:40
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 10 2008, 11:53 AM) [snapback]399996[/snapback]
We'll have to agree to disagree on that, what about this "winning the league by defualt" nonsense then ? didn't we win it becuase we were the best team over the season ?

We won it because we ended up with most points.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 13:13:40
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 10 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]399923[/snapback]
It's spelt McInally . rolleyes.gif tongue.gif

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Beermonkey's spelling masterclass!

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mortonjag 2008-02-10 13:19:28
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Feb 10 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]399922[/snapback]
You really are a self centred arrogant little p***k - any one that disagrees with your opinion is a “fool†while anyone who agrees with your petty niggles is “intelligent.â€

I could argue that I am worthy of a place in the current squad but the simple fact is that Temps couldn’t make a significant difference. Some nice touches but no strength (fell down if you looked at him the wrong way,) terrible in the air for a man of his size and a scoring record which was mediocre at best. He wasn’t even first choice at Brechin when we signed him and for all those people who now think he is some sort of superstar where did he go when freed by Morton - East Fife, says it all really!

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Bet you enjoyed that!

May I just point out that only a fool claims that his opinion is 'a simple fact'?
mortonjag 2008-02-10 13:26:30
QUOTE(steve-ton @ Feb 10 2008, 12:19 PM) [snapback]400015[/snapback]
Didn't think McGuffie was any worse than the rest of them yesterday, but on the whole he has been a poor signing so far. McInally seems to sign players for the sake of it then struggles to fit them into the team. What he should be doing is identifying an area of the team need strengthened and then signing a player that fits into that role.

Well Martin Clark has finally admitted that in a roundabout way. I suspect JM will be off soon, and his legacy will be a useful squad which a half decent manager should start to move up the league.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 13:32:55
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 10 2008, 01:25 PM) [snapback]400073[/snapback]
I'm not enjoying the football at the moment and I doubt many if any are, I boycotted the home games during the Scott era because I didn't want to line the guys pockets but I think this situation is completely different, nobody at the club has set out to delibratly steal from the fans like Scott but although I will continue to go (mainly out of habit) I would not criticize anyone for what ever decision they make, we are all individuals and are entitled to show our support or dissatisfaction in what ever way we wish.
I think its wrong for people here to take the moral high ground and think they are a better fan because they do one thing as opposed to the other, we all have our own reasons for doing it and they are right for us, at the end of the day that's what matters.
The bad days have been around before and I'm sure they will be back again after this particular bout disappears, I'm not sure if there is a long term fix available to us right now but what I'm sure about is something needs to be done as at present things are not working.
It also looks like the fans rally has been scrapped, maybe thats a good thing considering the discontent among fans but I personally think a rally would have given everyone a chance to put their cards on the table although at saying that there seems to be a few guys at the club who see themselves as decent poker players.

It probably is a good thing-I don't think even Douglas Rae could spin things to his advantage right now, and it may well have ended up quite unpleasantly.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 13:55:58 I've just read Blue's account.

In terms of law enforcement, of course, the police officer was correctly performing his duty.

If, however, Blue had just happened to be the Chief Inspector off duty, and had been approached in the manner described, Plod would have had his arse well and truly felt-firstly for using the siren in a non-emergency situation, and secondly for his abrasive manner when dealing with a member of the public.

We can do without clots like that-they just give the rest of the force a bad name.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 15:31:08
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Feb 10 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]400094[/snapback]
That's actually your arse you talk from... I thought you were a doctor?

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mortonjag 2008-02-10 15:39:43
QUOTE(Toby @ Feb 10 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]400051[/snapback]
That's totally out of order. Fair enough I don't see eye to eye with Scott and I'm usually on your side of the fence but it's a despicible way to speak to someone.

I think what upsets me most though is that you appear to be taking pleasue out of this, as if your foresight has been correct and you want to rub everyone elses' noses in it. I can guarantee you MJ, from a fellow prophet of doom, this is no fun at all.

Toby-if that's how you see it, it's fine by me.

I've no intention of individually highlighting the frequently offensive and gratuitous comments young Gillan has made about me, and he knows very well I'm speaking the truth.

You are also spot on when you say I'm taking pleasure-NOT in Morton's plight-that's silly, simply in giving back IN VERY SMALL MEASURE some of the stick I've had to take for being correct.

Is that unfair?
mortonjag 2008-02-10 15:42:20
QUOTE(piehutt @ Feb 10 2008, 02:49 PM) [snapback]400123[/snapback]
Deservedly so - he's a total arse.

Glad he is one of only two people on my ignore list, or I'd have been well sucked into this by now.

You've STILL not released that huff button Piehole-are you waiting till you grow up before you challenge me again? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-10 15:49:57
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 10 2008, 03:35 PM) [snapback]400136[/snapback]
For several weeks now I've thought that Scott Brown of Sceptic looks like a slimmer facial version of JM.

Is it just me ??

If someone could post the pics that'd be great.

Wait Willow-I sense you're about to start some rumour about the Tims and illegal use of clones.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 15:54:57
QUOTE(Mastodon @ Feb 10 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]400139[/snapback]
I'd keep Stevenson, but McAnespie has been appalling.

The story was that McAnespie asked to train with us.

It was then given the usual spin-an 'ex premiership player'-or something to that effect, by the powers that be-if you recall that was exactly at the time when Rae was obsessed with getting McGowan back at almost any price.

I believe McAnespie was no more than a gamble and a good sweetener for those irritating fans.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 16:11:27
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 10 2008, 03:50 PM) [snapback]400151[/snapback]
The eejit was at it again yesterday. Harding got it in the neck for a couple of paragraphs. dry.gif



Mr Rae said-and I quote verbatim.........


.....from an apparent position of little danger near the corner flag, with our defender in possession the latter player totally mis-hit his attempted clearance, in fact in golfing parlance it could be said that he shanked it!! A corner kick was the outcome, it was a good one and 'old friend' Sean O'Connor met it square on and bulletted the ball into our net. Unfortunately the culprit who gave away the needless corner and whose job was to guard Sean throughout the match, failed to get properly off the ground making it easy for Sean to get a good connection.


It looks like the 'culprit' was suitably dealt with by Mr Rae yesterday!!

Meanwhile of Brian Wake who played almost the whole match he stated 'Brian will soon get match fit and then I am sure he will make a good impression on all supporters...'

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mortonjag 2008-02-10 16:15:32
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Feb 10 2008, 03:51 PM) [snapback]400154[/snapback]
To be honest, before Millar picked up his injury earlier in the season I would happily have seen him leave as I don't really think he had ever been anything out of the ordinary, except perhaps the second half of the "Airdrie" season. Since his return though, he has looked a different and far more committed player and Morton should have at least made an attempt to sign him up on a longer contract, he deserved far better treatment even if only for how long he's been with us. In all honesty though, I'm not overly fussed either way about him going.
As for players having a wee barney, I'm all for it, at least they're interested. I would much prefer my players to show a wee bit of passion and aggression at losing goals than merely slouching away with not a care in the world.

I always rated Midge, but over the past two seasons his form has been a bit of a roller coaster. The impending move seems to have helped him no end-he looks far more confident and composed-I guess he's one of the few players who HAS matured in the last three years.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 16:28:27
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Feb 10 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]400172[/snapback]
What does everyone see in Rowan Alexander?

He did an absolutely atrocious job at QOS, and Gretna could have marched through the leagues with no manager when you look at the squad they had in comparison to others. Big no for me.

Allan Moore has got the best out of his players and got two promotions despite limited resources at Stirling. He's the man for me.

It's a funny old world-last season when I repeatedly criticised JM I was told 'FFS we're top of the league'.


That despite the fact that in real terms Moore was light years ahead of McInally, as are most of the managers in the present first division.

Billy Reid at Hamilton, and Gordon Chisholm of Queens are examples of unfashionable names doing a sterling job.

I've frequently wondered what would have happened if JM had not been an ex international of some standing-a 'known name' if you like.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 16:34:00 Well? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-10 17:30:22
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 10 2008, 04:38 PM) [snapback]400186[/snapback]
Quoted just for piehut laugh.gif

TY wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-10 17:38:18
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Feb 10 2008, 04:37 PM) [snapback]400184[/snapback]
"I do (a wee bit)"

Why?

I feel the guy's been trapped between a rock and a hard place for some time.

Who in his right mind can afford to walk away from a job when he's got family commitments and no guarantee of anything better in the pipeline?

Who in his right mind can have been happy working under Rae for three years, especially of late when the finances have been cut back?

I don't regret a word I've ever said about his managerial ability, but I can still feel sorry for JM the man.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 17:45:20
QUOTE(Mastodon @ Feb 10 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]400159[/snapback]
If you're being 100% honest here Jag, do you think a new manager will turn things around or is the interference from Raemanov too much for any manager? We never heard the truth from John McCormack and I doubt when/if that joker McInally leaves we'll hear anything substantial from him.

I think a hell of a lot will depend on what's going on behind the scenes. There's clearly been a change in the way money is being spent/saved, and Alistair Donald is hovering in the wings.

Maybe Rae's utter control has been faltering-maybe others will have a say in the selection of a new manager-one who WILL be allowed to manage.

As you suggest, it's been almost impossible to know the truth about what goes on behind the scenes.

Maybe even that will change.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 17:54:03 I just wish it worked like that, but it obviously doesn't Sean. I always get behind the team, but it seems that as long as JM's still in charge the 'feel good factor' is gone for the bulk of the fans

I'll guarantee one thing though. If JM's sacked before next Saturday, we'll probably beat Dundee, irrespective of who's in charge-temporary or otherwise. drastic changes are needed now-it's NOT too late.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 06:29:23
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Feb 10 2008, 07:40 PM) [snapback]400336[/snapback]
Erm, wouldn't say 'hot' or 'chick' but I'm pretty sure I've seen a 'micro thong' as HE gets changed in the Tannoy Bothy... laugh.gif

Not that I look or anything, although I do need to zip him up the back on occassion... ohmy.gif wub.gif ph34r.gif

Good gracious-YOU too-that's Gash, Tannoy Man, and Mortonjag all with wee willies-if we don't watch the mindless muppets will be jumping on the bandwagon and 'wallopers' will become passe on this board! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-11 06:31:57 Too mr r beivur

phuk oph-eye hav olreddie ah plyde

(sined Munx) xxx pee ess thi wun awn thi lepht
mortonjag 2008-02-11 06:41:14
QUOTE(HamCam @ Feb 10 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]400243[/snapback]
You sound like a spoilt wain.

Your comments are well out of order. I do not agree with many of SG's posts and at times he does my nut in with his seemingly blinkered views in defending the current regime but he like everyone else on here is entitled to his view on life.

You seem unable to accept anyone who does not agree with your vilification of DDFR.

Hang on a minute I think in one of the kids cupboards there is a medal for being Mr Right, you can hang it around your neck with your Mr Smug and Mr Sanctimonious bling.

Good morning my capricious clown prince-I'm not attacking 'brown tongue' for his opinions-I'm highlighting his despicable chameleon behaviour which I have described as 'a rat deserting a sinking ship'.

Right to the end he was courting kudos by portaying himself as the last bastion of JM support, while giving me vile abuse into the bargain.

Anyway, what gives you the right to decide what is and is not 'out of order'

Mr Smugimonious? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-11 06:50:10
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 10 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]400289[/snapback]
why are you trying to make out you were the first guy wanting jm out the door? all this "i was correct" pish. you really are like a big f***ing wean

Forza, you're normally quite a reasonable guy,and that comment is not. I've NEVER suggested 'I was 'first to'want rid of JM'-in fact I'm absolutely certain I was not, because I think long and hard before reaching conclusions.

I was, however, one of the first with the courage of my convictions. A fair few of the current rash of 'JM haters' would have slightly red faces if I copied and pasted comments they made about me in those days-and they know who they are.

So let's have less of the big wean stuff, unless you want me to show you who the real weans are.

Folk like Toby, and Arkleston, Chrissiboi, and Largston, and Willowman and a few others probably understand how I feel right now-other guys who have at least had the balls to stand up for their beliefs.

Fair is fair.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 06:56:33
QUOTE(SramTon @ Feb 10 2008, 08:29 PM) [snapback]400359[/snapback]
In the past month or so I've read three posts that nearly had my jaw dropping through the floor.

The most recent was Scott's. The second was by someone who only a fortnight ago called someone a ****ing **ss** on P&B for criticising McInally, yet within the last 30 hours has "done a Scott". The third related to a "change of heart" after several years of defending a certain centre-half.

The thing that astonished me with all 3 posts (by separate posters) was that they were written as if the individuals concerned had held that view, and been correct, all along.

No-one (except it seems MJ) is seeking apologies or public humiliations. Personally I don't have a problem with either of the 3 having changed their mind. In fact, in a sense their views are of more significance insofar as it would be interesting to know what put them over the edge.

But if they're not going to provide some rationale for their respective volte-faces they should at least cut out the bare-faced hypocrisy of acting like they've held the same unwavering conviction all their life.

I'm not seeking apology Scram-I've never felt the need for folk to apologise to this old trouble maker, and if they give me better than I get, that's all in the spirit of the jousting.

Public humiliations have been self engendered by the clots who deliberately and gratuitously hurled abuse at those whose views they now apparently share.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 06:59:47
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Feb 10 2008, 10:08 PM) [snapback]400398[/snapback]
That'll be why, when the high ball cam in and he was six yards out (second half) he balooned it over the bar!!

A striker? I think the closest he came to a striker was sleeping with one

Oh dear!
mortonjag 2008-02-11 07:10:08 If it suits both clubs and the player fine by me, but I'm not going to slag him off. It's similar to the Sanny situation IMO, and IF we were strengthening our squad, I'd have kept both in the competitive pool.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 07:23:39
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 10 2008, 06:28 PM) [snapback]400279[/snapback]
You get were am coming from here though?

as I said we are Morton, not Jim, Dougie, Players etc.

I fully agree with TTG, but at he end of the day, I do not want to see us in a relgation battle and if it takes me as a fan to stand and sing my heart out so be it! We can all predict doom and glome, it so easy to do, but only we as fans can change it!(cos our manager can't)

I know exactly where you're coming from-it's been the same scenario at Scapa for months on end. The team comes on to reasonable if not particularly vocal encouragement. They kick off and everything goes quiet. It takes some ridiculous refereeing decision, or a nasty foul by an opponent to elicit a whimper of complaint from the cowshed. Sometimes we score a goal, and the crowd goes berserk-for two minutes-then back to the hush.

The only time we ever 'get behind the boys' seems to be when they're playing well and comfortably ahead-that's a bit topsy turvy if you ask me.

It's all to do with the general atmosphere down Scapa way-there's been no sense of unity and purpose for ages-a Chairman detached from the fans and reality-a manager who 'jets in' for games and then f*cks off home again, players who seem alienated from the fans and are willing to comment about it.

We are NOT a community-and we SHOULD be.

Much though I abhor the ultimate idiocy of the Mileson campaign, he at least knew how to generate a feeling of togetherness at his club.

So you're right Sean-we SHOULD be getting behind the players, but nothing will change this week unless JM goes. If he does, everybody can go to Dundee feeling we have a fresh start. Jenkins and Smith will do for the boys what JM has never done, and together we can get a victory.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 07:33:50 If the Chairman AND board really want a manager who will be given full responsibility and adequate funding, there is no reason to be pessimistic. Previous records do not guarantee success,but at least there is less of a gamble in signing somebody with a good track record.

I'd have Moore if he was available.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 07:49:33 I'm extremely worried by the 'Rae is desperate' part.

If EVER proof positive was needed that the Chairman is now a total liability, this is it.

He is clearly more obsessed with saving the 'pay off' dosh, than saving the club from relegation, and I still get abuse for highlighting the damage this man's now doing!!!

What's worse is that he may spin it as though he's the benign father figure, giving his prodigal son yet another chance, when in fact he's hoping all the while that JM will walk away without compensation. I can just see it-----


'The club is sorry to announce the departure of Manager Jim McInally. After lengthy discussion, a mutual agreement has been reached whereby Jim has been released from his contract.

The Chairman was keen to retain his services, but Jim insisted that he 'had taken the club as far as he could, and that it was time to move on'. We thank him for his services and wish him well for the future'.

Yours aye

Raemanov
mortonjag 2008-02-11 07:57:10
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Feb 10 2008, 06:21 PM) [snapback]400272[/snapback]
Incredibly, I too had parked roughly in the same place as you, at the top of King Street I was about to get out of my car to use the ATM, this was at 7am in the morning and I near jobbied myself when I heard the siren suddenly blared out from the polis motor which sneaked up behind me ; this was about 15 years ago but uncanny the similarities with your situation.

I remember thinking at the time that surely they could have asked me to shift without waking up the neighbourhood at the crack of dawn.



They say coincidences come in threes. I double parked outside-I'm CERTAIN it was Haddows-in Greenock road Pishley many many years ago. We had just beaten the 'Midden' and I wanted a wee 'Judas' to celebrate. A big paddy wagon rolled up full of Pishley Polis who were extremely discourteous to me. They'd obviously just come from duty at the game.

I forgot to mention-my Ton scarf was draped across the parcel shelf! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-11 08:01:08
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 10 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]400382[/snapback]
I already have everything I need so I'd give it all away to cancer research... you can't buy inner contentment, so might as well do some good with it.

I feel a bit like that-though I'd probably hang on to-say-10%.You never know what's just around the corner CHC!
mortonjag 2008-02-11 08:17:45 The U.S. National Library of Medicine says the following factors can contribute to nightmares:

* Eating just before bed, which can increase brain activity.
* Any anxiety or stress.
* Any major life event, including the death of a loved one.
* Illness, including fever.
* An adverse reaction, side effect or withdrawal from a drug.
* Alcohol withdrawal, or excessive alcohol consumption.
* Breathing disorders, including sleep apnea.
* Sleep disorders, including narcolepsy

My personal experience is that cheese can cause bad dreams-Stilton being the worst!
mortonjag 2008-02-11 08:35:49
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Feb 10 2008, 10:44 PM) [snapback]400408[/snapback]


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The British Cheese Board, you mean! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-11 08:37:42
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 10 2008, 10:49 PM) [snapback]400413[/snapback]
Bloody stilton, I knew it.
I had a massive bowl of broccoli and stilton soup sad.gif

Oh well you can self propel yourself to the toilet with that, AND have the house to yourself all day!
mortonjag 2008-02-11 08:39:55
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 11 2008, 08:10 AM) [snapback]400508[/snapback]
Yeah OK, I didn't go into as much detail as others on here... I'd put a few million into trust funds for each of the weins to get on their 25th birthday, keep a couple of million for a rainy day and ensure I'm finantially comfortable for the rest of my life, and donate the remaining 85m or so to worthy causes.

This would give me infinitely more inner contentment than spending it on material things for myself.

It'll never happen anyway, I have never bought a lottery ticket in my life and don't intend to at any time in the future. smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-02-11 08:41:25 laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-11 08:45:37 'Personality-Nature or Nurture'?


I really enjoyed researching that one, though I had already concluded that it's a combination of both-varying in proportion from person to person.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 08:47:57
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Feb 11 2008, 08:20 AM) [snapback]400511[/snapback]
Can't hear you. wink.gif

I sympathise with any manager who has been getting the treatment that JM has.

God help the new manager - anything less than a 20 game unbeaten run and the fickle arseholes in the Cowshed will be spouting their usual guff.

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mortonjag 2008-02-11 08:59:45
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Feb 11 2008, 08:53 AM) [snapback]400527[/snapback]
Think this is basically all PR work so as no-one comes out of it looking to bad.

Dougie looks like a great guy to work for by trying to keep his staff through a terrible run showing loyalty and making the ton job more attractive.

Jim showing that he's a man of integrity by tendering his resignation and doing whats right for the club making him an attractive proposition as a future manager of another club

All in all I reckon a pay off will be thrashed out the day and hopefully a new man (duffy) waiting in the wings

I think it's got far more to do with that aspect than any PR on JM's part.

Rae clearly doesn't want to be seen to have sacked him, but surely Jim will be sticking out for as much 'hush money' as possible.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 09:03:06
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Feb 11 2008, 01:16 AM) [snapback]400473[/snapback]
i used to see it going by about 5 times a day when i stayed in Albert rd down the front of Gourock

By jupiter!
mortonjag 2008-02-11 09:53:07
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Feb 11 2008, 09:21 AM) [snapback]400541[/snapback]
I also expect our support to be down on Saturday if JM leaves, as around 50 Ton fans will have had their only pleasure in life taken from them.

They could, of course, go and watch JM shopping in Dundee and continue to yell at him (at least until the next manager become superfluous in their eyes).

It will be a pleasure to see you discredited!
mortonjag 2008-02-11 09:59:48
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 11 2008, 09:14 AM) [snapback]400537[/snapback]
slight contradiction there.

we don't of course know the terms of the contract, nor of any ex-gratia possibility, but on the face of it (rolling contract), i'd expect the 'pay off' dosh following resignation to be less than the 'pay off' dosh following termination.

so if resignation equals no automatic year's compensation, and rae wanted him gone, why would he persuade him to stay?

You're missing the point entirely- I DON'T think Rae wants him to stay-I simply believe that at ALL COSTS he wants to avoid having to sack him. It's been suggested that JM had already offered to go after the 6-1 debacle at Livingston.

Rae is just playing his cards close to his chest-he may be a useless football club Chairman, but I'm certain he's an old hand at wheeling and dealing.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 10:04:13
QUOTE(princessTON @ Feb 11 2008, 10:01 AM) [snapback]400555[/snapback]
they should both leave imo.

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mortonjag 2008-02-11 10:08:25
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Feb 11 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]400559[/snapback]
well Mortonjag already called him hitler, so who ever took over from hitler originally should do it lol

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I didn't actually CALL him Hitler-I simply compared his personality to those of Hitler, Mussolini, and Saddam!
mortonjag 2008-02-11 11:26:09
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 11 2008, 11:19 AM) [snapback]400594[/snapback]
Good post, Sean.

We're faves for relegation now so the fans must start doing their bit. Gutted I can't go on Saturday, a new manager will give us a huge lift and I actually expect us to get 3 points. Elaine's treating me to a night in Troon so who am I to argue. smile.gif mad.gif

That's exactly what I expect-the sense of relief and a fresh start will be huge. Jenkins was already imposing his authority on the others on Saturday, and Smith has definitely calmed the defence-even if we have still had a few gaffes. The players will realise there's nobody in the dugout to expect guidance from-it'll be up to them, and I reckon they'll 'go for it'.

I also fully expect a fresh energy from the fans-we'll now have something to aim for and something to prove. We COULD still end up in the top five.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 11:37:23
QUOTE(Earnton @ Feb 11 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]400591[/snapback]
I'm not convinced that changing the manager with 12 games to go will make 1st Division football more likely next season.

The transfer window is closed - a new manager has to work with the players we have. There is no guarantee a new manager could do any better because I suspect we would stuggle to attract top quality candidates.

Certainly things need to be changed and now - particularly on the pitch. The players need to be motivated to win every game. There are other ways to motivate than changing the manager that may have the opposite effect on some players.

Its only 2 weeks since the fantastic result in Dumfries and on Sat we were 2 mins away from putting a 5 point gap beteween ourselves and Clyde. There must be something there !!

An example of expectancy and actual delivery is what has happened at Newcastle. Everyone , including myself expected the new managers appointment(fans favourite) to give the club a boost, even just short term - but it hasnt happened and I think Newcastle are in a worse position now than they were with Big Sam.

Better the devil we know then?

It's absolutely crystal clear to me that the players are in disarray. Some have even suggested that they are 'deliberately not trying'. I agree that there's no guarantee that a new broom will sweep clean, but it surely has to be the gamble we take. Either that or we could be in freefall to relegation.

mortonjag 2008-02-11 11:41:17
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Feb 11 2008, 11:24 AM) [snapback]400599[/snapback]
Although i like Chris Miller as a player, I think some people on here are blowing his contribution of late slightly out of proportion... remember Miller has the advantage of knowing he isnt stuck in this crap team .. he is leaving hence the pressure is off and he can relax in games which obviously brings out the best in him, the other guys are still under pressure , just because Miller signs a contract with another team and turns in a few " no pressure" performances (remeber, he still needs to impress his new employers to gaurentee a game) doesnt make him the player that people think... he was always suspect to chuck it in games when things werent going his way.

I agree about the pressure/no pressure aspect.

That's why we must change the manager now. When you're in a rut, it's sometimes impossible to see the way out. The minute somebody facilitates an escape-most folk grab the chance.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 11:47:32
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Feb 11 2008, 11:43 AM) [snapback]400630[/snapback]
Not at all.
Future managers will get the same treatment as JM when it all goes sour - it's the way at Scapa (just remember Cowboy).

It is time for a change, but I did not feel the need for personal abuse of a manager either on here or at the games.
Besides, I had enough of doing that under McGraw.

What exactly is your agenda-if the team start thrilling us with good performances, the cowshed will take care of those very few inveterate 'boo boys'.

Any thoughts on the bigger picture?
mortonjag 2008-02-11 12:02:07 It's damned obvious that nobody's been playing well. McGurn is not brilliant, but IMO he's a competent keeper, and sometimes turns on a fine display. When Mathers came at first he DID appear to steady the defence, but his form slipped (possibly that niggling back problem) and maybe Davie should have got in again sooner.

If you really want to make a goalkeeping issue-tell me why the club has only one keeper in McGurn. Robinson was offered to every Ist division club-we took him, and he's clearly still very inexperienced.

The farcical situation of Keenan listed as No 2 goalie passed without too much criticism of the club.

All attention's now on JM's probable departure, and of course it's great to have got Jenkins, but our signing policy's been a total shambles.

For that, I DON'T entirely blame the manager.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 12:07:48
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Feb 11 2008, 11:53 AM) [snapback]400638[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif but still sick laugh.gif

Would Wake's walloper fit that?
mortonjag 2008-02-11 12:13:39
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 11 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]400643[/snapback]
Don't see why that's so farcical really. Every club in the division only has the two keepers do they not?

I've no idea. All I know about the situation is that we played at least one match with Keenan as the stand in goalkeeper. I believe most other clubs would have had a youth or reserve keeper availabe, and furthermore, we appeared to make no attempt to tie up an emergency loan.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 12:19:09
QUOTE(Lovedaddy @ Feb 11 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]400646[/snapback]
Scott ' Kick the ball the way i'm facing' Mclaughlin is shocking.

McLaughlin frustrates me no end, but to say that is daft. He reads the game well, tracks back very effectively, and gives 100% in every match. He's also quick to spot a chance for a shot from the edge of the box.

In terms of a holding or creative player, he's not good, but a squad is composed of players with different qualities, and it's up to the manager to utilise them.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 13:30:51
QUOTE(Deficon @ Feb 11 2008, 01:20 PM) [snapback]400699[/snapback]
This is no the jeremy kyle show, he's not getting results he goes, just as if i kept stacking badly in tesco i would be sacked. nothing personal smile.gif


Would nobody feel even a tinsy winsy wee bit sorry for you? sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-11 13:35:43
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 11 2008, 01:00 PM) [snapback]400688[/snapback]
Polar bears are generally regarded as the worlds finest land based killer. The lion would get bawhumped by both of them but even a Siberian tiger would have no chance against the Coke drinking, early years Tyson of the animal world.
As for investing in Morton, if I had £95m I'd happily sling in £5m not expecting any monetary return on it. No way would I invest four out of ten million though. What a fanny!

I'm led to believe than when a bi-polar bear's down, you can finish him off simply by blessing yourself.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 14:25:29
QUOTE(Cawston @ Feb 11 2008, 01:49 PM) [snapback]400718[/snapback]
Rog's view..

Todays Tele

Jim will not put self interest before the general good of the club apparently. That's all very easy stuff for a Tilly story, but Jim DOES have his family to think about, and I'd put that before any job.

Rae wants good spin, and Jim clearly needs a satisfactory 'pay out'.

Simple Mr Rae, and 'left by mutual consent' will do just nicely thank you!
mortonjag 2008-02-11 14:32:54
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Feb 11 2008, 02:07 PM) [snapback]400725[/snapback]
Definitely agree with you here. Unfortunately you're wasting yer breath I'm afraid. I haven't got the time or inclination to check, but virtually every player we have has been called sh1t (or worse) by 'fans' on here on a regular basis (and also subject to the same verbals at matches - although the 'fans' often deny being the ones who shout abuse ) You mention two of the most common victims of the keyboard assasins Harding/Finlayson/Millar/McGuffie /Mcanespie/Robinson are some of the other contenders. Peter Weatherson - our 'hero to zero in 60 seconds' may be in a class of his own as far as the abuse goes.We''ve had regular accusations of players not being interested which, in my opinion is really sh1t.
Don't get me started on the stuff that McInally has been subject to............... He may be failing as a manager but he has nothing to be ashamed of. Some of the people on here are too thick to be shamed but they are the ones who should be checking the mirror. Oh, and how quick they are to squeal if anyone dares to 'blame the fans' laugh.gif
Who can blame Millar for making a bee line for Perth or Greacan to Livi .......it's no coincidence that they have been two of the most 'dissed' players on this wonderful organ of free speech.

(oh and to rip the arce out of it, I do feel sorry for McInally , but I feel just as sorry for his successor having to face the one handed typists on here.

Thank f*ck I don't criticise individual players!!!

Hey Cloth Ears-what MORE can I do to get Shoogly to go-am I being too kind? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-11 14:39:50
QUOTE(cha-mcc @ Feb 11 2008, 02:33 PM) [snapback]400742[/snapback]
Ian Dowie has been sacked as manager of Coventry.

What?? Did yous think that Jim had been given the boot? tongue.gif

Yes-I've just trashed the house in delight! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-11 14:44:15
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 11 2008, 02:01 PM) [snapback]400722[/snapback]
see the reek of smugness off of you... it's sickening.

Don't let people upset you so much.

Have you thought about consulting a doctor?
mortonjag 2008-02-11 16:21:47
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 11 2008, 02:44 PM) [snapback]400768[/snapback]
blah blah blah

That's twice in twenty four hours you haven't answered a question!

Maybe if I sent you a nice wee p.m. you'd post it for all to see!

As I suggested-why don't you get some professional help? smile.gif

Ooops-no more p.m.'s

You are becoming more withdrawn by the minute-next you'll not even bother to log on.

Sad really-you're a good laugh!
mortonjag 2008-02-11 16:27:15 Scott was an evil b*****d. Shoogly's just misguided.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 17:41:28
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Feb 11 2008, 04:03 PM) [snapback]400870[/snapback]
did you know any of these guys personally? do you know Rae personally? if the answer to either of these questions is "no", than you are not in the best position to make such assesments of their presonalities. furthermore, to the best of my knowledge, Douglas Rae has never been responsible for any kind of genocide or ethnic cleansing, and has never made any attempts to annex neighbouring countries, sweetie factories or football clubs.

What a load of utter bollocks, and you either know that or you haven't a clue!!!

Are you trying to suggest that there hasn't been a mountain of literature about all three except Mr Rae.

Rae is a 'benign dictator'-that is as plain as a pikestaff-ask any employee of his past or present, and before you claim I don't have detailed information-don't bother.

Furthermore I explained at the time of the original post that my comparison was purely in terms of absolute control. The mess that is GMFC is a good example of that.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 17:45:16 Still fighting about money I guess.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 22:44:07 What could and should have been a fresh start has been turned into a public farce!

Rae-the 'successful businessman'

Rae-the 'most passionate fan the Ton ever had'

Rae-'the Saviour'

Today Mr Rae had a gilt edged opportunity to stage manage a revival in the club's fortunes-I cannot believe that his fellow Board members would not have wanted that!

Today Mr Rae has demonstrated beyond a shadow of doubt that his sanity is in question.

No successful businessman in history has deliberately alienated his source of income.

It is time NOW for his son and fellow directors to do something about this doddering old fool before he takes them down with him.

TIME TO GO SHOOGLY

mortonjag 2008-02-11 23:03:20 What Rae is actually saying is-'I appointed JM-a fine man and excellent manager whose talents were destroyed by the fans'.

Nowhere does he admit that JM couldn't cut the mustard-and he has, as always attempted to remain above reproach himself.

To whom does he imagine his official announcement is directed? Certainly there will always be bigger fools than himself-Piehutt, Real Hoops, and Smithston spring to mind-but even Rae must realise that the huge majority of GMFC.net readers are Morton fans.

Does he expect us to meekly apologise now?

After all it's apparent he believes that we are to blame for this nadir in fortunes.

He hasn't given us what we've been paying to see, and only HE is responsible.

No sympathy is deserved by this ageing clown. Pray that his fellow directors get rid of him A.S.A.P.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 23:19:05
QUOTE(dmc @ Feb 11 2008, 11:05 PM) [snapback]401642[/snapback]
Why is it a public farce?

I think he has a point!
If you were constantly bombarded with negativity from your patients wouldn't you begin to doubt your own ability?
If not doubt ability then at least a huge dent in your confidence!

Just for the record did Dougie ever shag your wife in front of you??


Edited for spelling mistake, which I just know you would have picked up on!!

I'm not in the mood for arguing or picking on anybody tonight. The analogy with a doctor and his patients only holds in the sense that patients have the power to vote with their feet, and that's exactly what's been happening at Cappielow.

It's entertaining and healthy that we have conflicting views on this forum, but it's my considered opinion that no true fan will take today's statement on the chin.

One final comment-if Rae's shagging ability equates to his PR nous, I'll happily invite him to shag my partner on the centre spot at Scapa before a paying audience.

Laughter, they say, is good medicine.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 23:26:48
QUOTE(stubaws @ Feb 11 2008, 11:08 PM) [snapback]401647[/snapback]
did you honestly expect him to come out and slate the guy on the clubs official site? does he need to admit it coz we all know he couldn't cut it in this division.

He did not need to 'slate' the ex manager-the results have spoken for themselves.

Instead of simply praising JM's qualities as a fellow being, he has painted him as some footballing icon wantonly smashed by fans' thuggery.

That is quite simply because Rae still cannot admit that HE F*CKED UP.

He's a liability now, and better he should step aside before more damage is done.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 23:32:07
QUOTE(stubaws @ Feb 11 2008, 11:26 PM) [snapback]401679[/snapback]
fair enough mj, i agree he could've worded it better but couldn't it also be said that its dougie's considered opinion that no true fan would dish out the abuse heard at cappielow these past few years?

Ill considered opinion.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 23:34:15
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 11 2008, 10:14 PM) [snapback]401512[/snapback]
You go ahead and write your letter but please dont dare say that you speak for Morton fans as I for one congratulate Rae for his comments.

I presume you still have me under your little huff button, so some kind soul may possibly quote me when I say your sycophancy is thoroughly sickening.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 23:40:31
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 11 2008, 11:35 PM) [snapback]401695[/snapback]
Give it a rest for one day plz

Give it a REST-that old fool's brought it to a bloody head today-don't blame me.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 23:46:58
QUOTE(stubaws @ Feb 11 2008, 11:34 PM) [snapback]401688[/snapback]
maybe read a bit much into that there, i think he has been fair to jim and has noted his strengths and parted on good terms. if he had not given him some praise then people would've been quick to say its bad PR by the club or somehting like that so he couldnt really win. u rarely hear anything different from a club when a manager leaves. he also mentions that support is better at away games than home, cant argue with that. never even comes close to calling the fans thugs or anything like it

Let's get something straight.I'm not willing to accept that 'they parted on good terms' until I hear JM confirm that.

Today's statement was all about a hurt Shoogly who has publicly lost face by having to part company with his pet puppet.

Who appointed Jim, and who persevered with him through thick and thin?

Rae's self interest has always preceded everything and always will.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 23:49:08
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 11 2008, 11:47 PM) [snapback]401705[/snapback]
There's a profound irony in the Chairman's statement. Some of McInally's most vociferous critics haven't missed a Morton away game, including foreign friendlies, in years.

True-and the most vociferous TTG outbursts have always come at away matches.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 23:50:03
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 11 2008, 11:34 PM) [snapback]401691[/snapback]
Done laugh.gif tongue.gif

TY!
mortonjag 2008-02-11 23:52:03
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 11 2008, 11:43 PM) [snapback]401703[/snapback]
Everyone is over reacting to this statement and reading words that aren't there FFS.

That is your opinion.

I'll bet Crawford and the others are actually cringing right now. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-11 23:56:19 Since it's apparent that nothing has been learned by that ageing buffoon, and that the rest of the Board have the hearts of field mice, it's pretty obvious that the first task for the new 'manager' will be to swear allegiance to the Shooglemeister and acquaint his tongue with the inner secrets of the latter's rectum.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 23:59:18
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 11 2008, 11:53 PM) [snapback]401715[/snapback]
I'd agree with that Scott. MJ, give that one a rest. I read your posts so know a great deal about your thoughts/feelings for Dougie but rein it in a little for the time being. Lets see how things pan out now, maybe he will surprise us wink.gif

The results of the poll are as follows at the moment. So its obvious that a lot of fans agree with Dougie to a point.

yes [ 23 ] [41.82%]
no [ 32 ] [58.18%]

McInally is gone and that should be enough news for fans for one day without now calling for the Shoogle-miester to 'do one' also. Ok the man can be is a PR disaster at times but what he has posted is nothing compared to what gets posted about him, the club, the players. Think the only one who hasn't been criticised is the groundsman (who does do a sterling job)

For heavens sake people lets get a grip here and put our focus on getting behind the team now home and away.

wink.gif

No probs Gash-I'll give it a rest for today-Monday! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-12 00:02:44
QUOTE(dmc @ Feb 11 2008, 11:59 PM) [snapback]401723[/snapback]
He did didn't he?? He had your wife over a table while you watched!!!

GIVE IT A f***ING REST YOU p***k!!!!

OK I'll confess under pressure-he did attempt to shag my wife-failed to get an erection, and blamed it on the weather.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 00:04:22
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 12 2008, 12:00 AM) [snapback]401724[/snapback]
I bloody knew that was coming laugh.gif

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The monkey says I've to leave Mr Rae alone till the morning, and the monkey must be obeyed. Goodnight and God bless.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 07:32:02 Yesterday...Rae-speaking about JM...'very professional, honest, trustworthy, and honourable'.

Saturday...JM..in programme...'Once again I have to commend the fans on the atmosphere created last week against Queen of the South. You have never let us down this season and today we especially need your support and backing as we attempt to pull away from the wrong end of the table'.

Yesterday... Rae... speaking about JM...Jim indicated that the only way that the players were going to find favour once again with the supporters would be if a new manager was brought in.

No matter what way you look at it something just doesn't add up.

One thing's for sure though-somebody thinks he can say whatever happens to be most convenient, and imagines the fans are daft enough to believe him.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 07:40:01
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 11 2008, 11:05 PM) [snapback]401643[/snapback]
In the whole the chairman has written a fairly decent statement. But he just can't help himself and always forgets to take his foor out his mouth. Blaming the players performances on those nasty home fans who are so much worse that our away fans. What utter pish Mr Rae. I have just lost whatever small scattering of respect I had for you. Time for you to go as well.

What also worries me is this is the guy who ultimately gets to decide who gets the job. I am very worried on that score.

As an afterthought I would just like to say goodbye to Jim McInally and Martin Clark. You are two gentlemen and I hope you get another job soon. You will have learned many lessons from your time at Cappielow which I am sure you will not forget.

Correct Weegie-it worries me sick. If Rae did indeed have the backing of the Board in making that statement, it's clear that he's still very much the main man.

In other words a self centred old buffoon whose sanity is in question gets to determine our fate once again.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 07:46:08
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 12 2008, 02:09 AM) [snapback]401760[/snapback]
the stats dont lie, i dont have a problem with what dougie said.

if we're allowed to criticise him then he's allowed to criticise us, same with the players that the fans start crying about when they dont do cartwheels and show off a t-shirt saying " i love you all " when they get substituted etc.

Hey you-when did you join the Shooglyphiles? wink.gif

Rae is perfectly entitled to criticise the fans if he so desires. What is so gallingly ironic is that he's criticising them for being correct, and moreover for being correct about the mess HE'S brought us to.

People are entitled to their opinions but will also judged by them.

Rae is a wittering old buffoon, and getting worse by the month. I reckon Ravenscraig may not be too far around the corner.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 07:50:17
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Feb 12 2008, 04:01 AM) [snapback]401774[/snapback]
i.e. nothing to do with personality.

what a load of utter bollocks
oh and by the way, if rae has absolute control, why isnt mcinally still boss? oh yeah, thats right... its because of the fans.

what a load of utter bollocks.

Stick to writing wee ditties son-you clearly know f*ck all about personality.

Rae's personality is the reason why JM was chosen-Rae's personality is the reason why JM has left.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 07:58:02
QUOTE(Toby @ Feb 12 2008, 03:30 AM) [snapback]401771[/snapback]
To use just myself and my mates as an example, I go to every game home and away, they go to most games, and I'm inclined to think we have been by far the most vocal in our criticisms towards McInally at the games, whilst others have posted their concerns on here.

Bearing in mind how much of a pain in the arse many of you have decided we are, we've been far louder in our protests away from home, obviously with drink being the influential factor there.

Let's be honest, it's guys like myself that are getting it in the neck from Rae. To be quite honest I couldn't give a fvck. I wish Jim no harm in his future employment. I feel confident that by saying that he'll never adversely affect Morton because clearly he isn't up to the job as manager of a professional football club. But lets look at the facts;

Did the fans fail to hold onto a lead at Stranraer in 2005 in that vital penultimate game?
Did the fans capitualate to a piss-poor Ayr United team and then say that they would no longer be at Cappielow the following season if the club failed to go up in the play-offs?
Did the fans put in possibly the most insipid 180 minutes of football your ever likely to see at the time when a performance was needed more than ever in the play-offs in 2006?
Did the fans lose three Challenge Cup semi finals in a row?
Did the fans not see that Greacen and Harding quite clearly weren't good enough to take the step up once success was finally achieved?
Did the fans do the work on the park that has led to the club sitting in the position it is, staring relegation in the face after taking so long to get back to our "natural level"?

Quite clearly the answer to all these questions is no. I've already expressed my regret over one particular incident, and I'm sure other fans have their regrets about things, but the bottom line is that Morton haven't been good enough, and as a result someone has to take responsibility. That someone is Jim McInally, who has now belatedly done so.

So, what of Mr. Rae's role? Nobody is always right, where have we ever seen him take responsibility for his own failings? The minute things start going tits up at the club, Rae either turns it on the fans or runs a mile. Any wonder why we've not had this rally yet? He'd get hounded and doesn't want to face us.

He really needs to have a good long look at himself here. Two of his pearls of wisdom spring immediately to mind that really infuriate me. First of all the "I'll be in charge of Morton until I draw my last breath" one. Just because he is currently in charge and is better than HS, doesn't mean nobody else can do a better job than him. He has a duty of care towards the club and supporters' for the well being of Morton and isn't fulfilling that duty by refusing to even consider other offers. Then, the Celtic fans thing obviously. Imagine the Chairman of Tesco telling his customers that Sainsburys' customers are better than his own?

To be honest, if I'm one of the people responsible for Jim leaving Cappielow, I'll take that on my conciense. I've been campaigning for him to go for long enough so I've got exactly what I want.

Wonder who the next campaign will be about.



That's something I agree with very strongly Toby, but we still have a hard core on the forum who believe he's entitled to do just as he pleases.

His behaviour seems to be growing more erratic with time, and it's surely a measure of the power this man still wields within his little empire that nobody seems able to stand up to him.

I have upset some folks by comparing him to famous dictators, but Rae is undoubtedly a homespun Hitler in Inverclyde.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 08:02:16 Jim Duffy is capable of doing better than the ex manager IMO.

Jim's got contacts throughout Scottish football, and knows all about Rae.

I just can't see him being tempted-he's far too sensible.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 08:04:44
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 12 2008, 04:11 AM) [snapback]401776[/snapback]
you're not very bright are you?

Brightness is relative.

Can't say I'm overly impressed by your childish behaviour to a new poster, and a young lass at that.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 08:56:53
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Feb 12 2008, 08:30 AM) [snapback]401800[/snapback]
I don't think Rae has fully thought out his statement and what the repercussions of it will be. If he’s read this messageboard over the past 12 hours then he will be in no doubt now! I think it’s fair to say the feel good factor Rae helped generate since his arrival has now disappeared and he if he is looking to drive a wedge between himself and the fans then he has made good in-roads here.

It seems Chairmen are slaughtered by the press these days for making hasty decisions regarding the security of the manager’s job. Rae himself took some flak in the press for sacking Cowboy when he did (when Cowboy should have walked amid the betting scandal). But here we are with Rae creaming his pants over JM while giving us fans the evils!

I DO NOT agree at all with the tone or the accusation that the fans are to blame in Rae’s statement. However, there is some merit in the fact that a small minority of fans do berate and personally abuse players which is unacceptable. But I do not think the performance of the manager and the berating of players should be viewed as two sides of the same coin. They are not. First, JM never had a settled side in 3 years (!), he showed no tactical nous, he had a terrible record in the transfer market and – for all the comments of being a decent bloke – he didn’t try and strike a relationship with the fans. For example, of the 7 times I have taken hospitality at Cappielow since JM arrived, not once did he (or MC) make an appearance. Not a single “helloâ€, a “thanks for coming†or “your support is welcome†type of thing. JM liked to keep himself detached and whether or not he wanted it or not, I believe that he failed to create a rapport with the fans. And if you do that you dig your own grave.

Second, the berating of the players I can not fathom. As supporters we all get fed up and frustrated when a tackle that should have been made isn’t, or when a slack pass puts the defence under pressure or when an open goal is missed. But why some ‘fans’ find it within themselves to berate and personally abuse a player I do not know. I’m not sure how this mentality has strengthened within the Morton support in particular but how a new manager is going to fix it. Good luck to the new boss anyway.

Finally, let’s hope Rae makes a decent decision regarding the next manager and we get a settled side fighting their way back up the table. If the antipathy towards continues and a new manager doesn’t get the results then Rae is going to be in stormy water with the fans – probably to the extent that his position as chairman could be untenable.

I think that expression already applies JBD!

Even posters who have continued to give the chairman the benefit of the doubt have been scunnered by this latest outburst.

I agree entirely with what you say about personal abuse of the players-almost every week somebody is selected as the whipping boy-not that the Chairman himself is excused blame as the most prominent perpetrator of the crime.

Isn't it slightly bizarre that one week he sees fit to leave Ryan Harding 'without a name' in his programme notes and the next he blithely transfer the blame for his shocking tenure at Morton onto the very fans who used to happily chant 'Dougie, Dougie' when he WAS bringing some measure of success.

He's put the cart before the horse as usual-fans pay for a product-they are entitled-indeed they SHOULD demonstrate their dissatisfaction if it does not come up to reasonable standards.

It's clear Rae is utterly blind to any kind of reality or reason when it comes to the Club-he still is Daddy-all others are his children who should be seen and not heard.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 09:00:18
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 12 2008, 08:56 AM) [snapback]401802[/snapback]
If he wants back into football management I can't really see too many better avenues opening up for him. It must be a pretty tempting vacancy for any ambitious manager from down the leagues or for any more experienced manager looking to get back in the game.

What's done in haste may be regretted at leisure. I'd love to see Duffy given full control at Cappielow. That won't happen. If he does yield to the temptation, I imagine he'll not stay too long.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 09:09:46
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 12 2008, 08:42 AM) [snapback]401801[/snapback]
how the f*** is anyone meant to know the sex of another poster from a name like that? and what the f*** does it matter? blatant sexism mortonjag. shame on you. as for behaviour towards younger posters - u want to have a wee word with yourself.

Civic type R stated early on in the thread that she is an eighteen year old girl and several others confirmed that.

What matters is that she made a youthful mistake as a new poster, and promptly acknowledged the gaffe, but was still pursued by the self righteous. She attempted to defend herself and also made a perfectly valid point in her PERSONAL message to Narcissus, who glanced briefly from his mirror to copy and paste it in characteristically haughty derision.

The poster happened to be female-had he been a lad I'd have mentioned an eighteen year old 'boy'.

Now to your final comment. Let me state yet again Forza, I NEVER attack first-simple as that, but the young bucks who deliberately try to put one over on Mortonjag know EXACTLY what they are doing! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-12 09:17:16
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 12 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]401805[/snapback]
sieg heil sieg heil sieg heil

is dougie any good at painting then? you could ask him to help you with your kitchen tongue.gif

The kitchen is my Mother's- sweet Trumpet- and has been finished to a very high specification. I have now completed the redecoration of or bathroom and am half way to completion of the en-suite.

I'd be unhappy to have help from anyone-I can't abide folk looking over my shoulder or criticising anything I do. Everything I start is completed to perfection, and if anyone dares to cast a sideways glance at my wondrous creations, he is never seen or heard of again.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 09:20:25
QUOTE(ianton @ Feb 12 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]401812[/snapback]
the only problem would he let rae have as much influence in the dressing room?.we need a manager who is going o have to tell rae where his limits are.sadly i can never see this happening while rae is there.life would just become impossible and he would leave sooner rather than later.rae is just as big a problem as our manager was.imho of course.

Morton's problem in a nutshell.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 09:33:41 Mr Rae has had great and deserved credit for historically saving the club from extinction. I now believe he is a liability, who in his late seventies ought to be occupying a non executive role at Cappielow.

What do others think?
mortonjag 2008-02-12 09:39:57
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 12 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]401822[/snapback]
laugh.gif im not a "shooglyphile " but i dont have a problem with a chairman or players having a go at us if theyre not happy with something. we give it out to them every single day on here and every saturday at the game.

everyones entitled to their opinions and id rather they shared their opinions. Dougie thinking we were partly to blame for our home results isnt going to alienate me or make me love morton any less.

if you give it out you should be able to take it, our fans are far from perfect and its far from inconvievable that people inside the club dislike us. im not naive enough to think we're all loved, just as dougie and the players arent naive enough to think that they are loved.

i think a lot of our fans think theyre the perfect fan and are always in the right when its them against the club because they helped save the club from extinction but that cant last forever, already we've seen that the honeymoon period for dougie saving us is well and truelly over so the same should apply to the fans.

Fair enough-just one point where I disagree-you say that if you 'give it out, you should be able to take it'. That surely only applies to 'like for like'. The fans have justifiably criticised failure, whereas Rae has blamed them for his failure.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 09:50:40
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 12 2008, 09:38 AM) [snapback]401831[/snapback]
yet you complain about his honesty and that he should have shut his mouth when blaming the fans for the home performances this season?

you cant have it both ways, either the club lies to us to make us feel loved and that everything is rosey or theyre honest and tell it how it is. the club cant win.

the fans expect dougie to see that theres a lot wrong at the club when 99% of the fans think theres nothing wrong with the fans. its a lot easier to see how badly something is looking from the outside in than the inside out.

JM was good enough to take a step outside the box and see that the only thing that could help the club was for him to leave, maybe dougie will be next to do it (take a look from the outside, not leave the club) and then who knows.....maybe the fans might even do it aswell ohmy.gif

There was absolutely no need to mention the fans at all-absolutely none.

Rae has been unable to se that JM is HIS mistake-he clearly had no idea that we muddled through last season and it's come as a shock to him that those boys haven't grasped the chance to take us forward.

He doesn't need to look far for an excuse-the FANS-not him, not JM , not the players, not the fragmented infrastructure at Cappielow with repeated blunders over strips, season tickets, and signings, lies about youth policy and trialists, failure to respond to communication, and an official web site that's never up to date.

NO-the fans are the root of all evil at Cappielow.

He claims that his statement yesterday has the backing of the Board. If that is true, Alistair Donald might as well pack his bags right now!

Frankly I don't believe that for one minute-I'm sure the others are squirming this morning, but at the end of the day it's up to them. They HAVE some say with Rae. The fans have none.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 11:12:05
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 12 2008, 09:34 AM) [snapback]401825[/snapback]
People really need to calm down about this 'Rae out' thing unless they can put forward a viable alternative. Managers are 10 a penny - wealthy men willing to throw their hard earned cash at provincial football clubs are not.

Is Rae really a 'wealthy man throwing HIS cash at Morton'?

Morton are indebted to Golden Casket which is comprised of shareholders of which Rae is only one, albeit with the major stake. To the best of my knowledge Rae has not spent a farthing of his own money on the club, and it's also been obvious of late that there has been a rationalisation of spending/lending Golden Casket money.

The viable alternative is for Crawford Rae and Alistair Donald to take over and for father to become Honorary President. Whether they would be excellent, good, or poor, I don't believe they'd ever be worse than what we have at present.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 11:14:38
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 11 2008, 11:53 PM) [snapback]401716[/snapback]
Did you manage to teach the monkey TTG ??

He only sings TTGR!
mortonjag 2008-02-12 11:21:16
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Feb 12 2008, 12:22 AM) [snapback]401732[/snapback]
Can anyone really deny that the players have taken too much abuse from the crowd this season? It's not the biggest factor in our poor home form but it certainly hasn't helped.

Whatever you think about the players being paid professionals who should be able to deal with criticism, it will bring down the level of their performance if they're getting abuse shouted at them from the crowd.

I believe Dougie's wrong about McInally's contribution as manager, he made far too many mistakes. But he's right about the effect abuse from the crowd has on the players.

Yes- but he's highlighting one reaction in a chain and blaming it for the end product.

In the beginning was Rae-he had PLENTY of patience from the fans as he bungled his way out of division three, and stumbled blindly up to the first division with the assistance of a manager who produced some of the most unattractive football and bizarre tactical decisions many have ever seen.

It's only this season that SOME fans have had enough of that, and I agree that abuse of the players does not go unnoticed by them, but it's perfectly clear that blaming his paying customers is behaviour typical of a man whose sanity is in question.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 11:24:17
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 12 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]401820[/snapback]
you'd get on with that nice mr stalin as well then biggrin.gif

Uncle Joe-RIP.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 11:33:50
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 12 2008, 09:40 AM) [snapback]401834[/snapback]
OK, I'm not a veteran rae watcher, and to an extent i'm playing devil's advocate here. whilst what you say may be true, it's also clear that rae doesn't want to be in 9th place : the situation isn't one-dimensional.

Seems he's done his best to maintain our abysmal performance if we are to believe all the Shoogly spin.

'It's a shame we're in a results business', he states, as if he had suddenly stumbled on that reality yesterday, but goes on to say he was desperate not to let JM go.

I don't believe a word the man says, and we have had several instances of contradiction from him before. I am still convinced he wanted JM to leave without compensation, but would be very surprised if the 'resignation' was not softened just a little bit with a financial adjustment.

He wasn't exactly going to admit that, when his trump card was to blame the fans, and I incidentally found it absolutely ridiculous that he was wittering on about fantastic training facilities with 'state of the art' heart monitors in the light of successive humpings by presumably less well endowed clubs.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 11:43:20
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 12 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]401851[/snapback]
he blamed us for contributing to his failure, i dont for a second think he thinks we're solely responsible for our home performances. i think he thinks we didnt do anything to help them....which is effectively our role as supporters.

i know i know we were watching pish so why should we support them but some times someone else has to make the first move. we've seen how good those players can play when their adrenaline is pumping and the fans are singing away, apart from clyde on the first day and gretna they never got the slightest bit of support all season.

even in our best performance at home this season against partick we gave them nothing, complete silence. sorry if im not a huge fan of if you play well then we wont boo you and shout abuse but thats all youre getting. its not good enough on our part.

the club is far from perfect from the bottom upwards, the chairman is far from perfect, the players are far from perfect but what some people have to realise is that the fans are far from perfect also.

the only perfect thing we have is our groundsman smile.gif

There are fans and fans port-ton. I've been very disappointed in the dropping attendances and lack of vocal support, but I don't believe any paying fan has a 'duty' to do anything other than act spontaneously, and I still have faith in human nature-if we are given something to enthuse about we WILL enthuse.

Instead of blaming the fans, a wise Chairman would be trying to find out why they were unhappy and doing something about it, but Mr Rae is incapable of ever admitting he's wrong-even to himself, I believe.

mortonjag 2008-02-12 11:46:21 I wouldn't be in the slightest surprised if Rae plans to keep Martin Clark on till the end of the season, knowing that if results still don't improve, he can change his mind at will.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 11:47:51
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 12 2008, 09:40 AM) [snapback]401835[/snapback]
you basically start the same thread over and over again with a different thread title laugh.gif
have a cookie.

I'm on a diet but thanks anyway!
mortonjag 2008-02-12 11:48:41
QUOTE(Scapaflow @ Feb 12 2008, 09:40 AM) [snapback]401837[/snapback]
I think it should be taxi for Mortonjag.

This forum has went downhill again since your return. Thing were peaceful during your time inside tongue.gif

How many threads is that you have now started regarding Rae
Give it a rest

I don't mind your opinion about Rae but it is on every F---ing thread on this forum just about.

Can you limit your opinions about him to one thread so we can read other topics uninterupted.
Mon the Ton

So good you said it twice! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-12 11:59:33
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Feb 12 2008, 10:20 AM) [snapback]401872[/snapback]
Self praise is no praise at all MJ.

As you very well know my asinine friend and tail bearer I was referring to Mr Rae-Chairman of Greenock Morton Football Club, and majority shareholder in Golden Casket from which he has borrowed money to underwrite the presently unprofitable venture.

Perhaps I can also ask you-since you appear to have a particular interest in those matters, to spell out for us the fact that Rae has NOT SPENT A SINGLE PENNY of his own on Morton, and that Golden Casket can call in the loan as and when they please.

I always like my information straight from the horses mouth. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-12 12:04:15
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 12 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]401892[/snapback]
Yes he issued new shares but you cannot create wealth by simply issuing shares. If you own one share worth £5 and the company issue 4 new shares you then have 5 shares worth £1 each. The point of the share issue was to reduce the average value per share and to make new shares available for new shareholders.

Why do people always assume that financial restructuring means someone (Dougie?) has their hand in the biscuit sweetie tin. Usually financial restructuring is about sorting a company out - which it was in this case. By converting his loans to shares, Douglas Rae effectively removed from Morton the need ever to repay the loans so converted.

On the statement about fans, maybe it was a bit ill considered but its an emotional time for him. He had a decent relationship with McInally and was losing a friend. He is'nt deaf. He sits in the stand and hears the abuse some people think that they are entitled to dish out because they've paid (usually a concessionary price) to get in. If they get a bit in return, pots, kettles and black spring to mind. Do people really think that their entry money entitles them to throw the vilest abuse at people who for the most part are doing their best? Whatever happened to decency? It is possible to voice your displeasure without questioning peoples parentage or their mother's occupation

I agree and so does DDFR that it was time for McInally to go but that does not mean its not a sad time - a decent guy has lost his job because, having tried his best, he was'nt up to it. That's not a time for celebration, its just a time for moving on!

Forgetting the shares, Tonsilitis, how much is still owed to Golden Casket?
mortonjag 2008-02-12 12:09:53 Rather than speculating about the new manager's identity, I'm far more concerned about the selection process. If it's a free vote by the Board, that'll be a step forward IMO.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 12:17:24
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Feb 12 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]401976[/snapback]
Could you enlighten us further about your concerns?

I could!
mortonjag 2008-02-12 12:20:13
QUOTE(nani @ Feb 12 2008, 12:12 PM) [snapback]401974[/snapback]
Having read this forum over the past few days I assume that you are a happy crew now that we are managerless with 12 games to go. With the exception of emergency loans there is little a new manager can do in terms of personnel yet you seem to think that someone new will arrive and that everything will be fine....a somewhat immature blinkered attitude. Some seem to think that Jim Duffy will be the new manager yet some half wit has started a campaign "say no to Duffy".....what are you all about?
You have also been miffed by the fact that the Chairman is having a pop at the fans for their lack of support at home games.....maybe the truth hurts.....our home form is very poor....our away form not so bad. What does that tell you? Coincidence? Or maybe the fact that McInally has been pilloried ever since the play-off defeat to Peterhead. I guess it was only a matter of time before mob rule dictated he would lose his job. Unfortunately a spin off to that may well be that we find ourselves back in the 2nd division...with a chairman less likely to dip into his pocket as he has been to date. Sure mcInally has made mistakes...dont we all....but he did his best despite the vitriolic abuse he and his family have been subjected to both currently and in the past. Yeah he takes responsibility for his mistakes and full credit to him for resigning and not having his mind changed by Mr Rae. Clearly Rae sees the work that McInally has put in on the training field etc....mebbe if he had stayed and kept us up then next season would have seen a big improvement as I am sure he has learnt much about his players and his abilities this season.
However we are now in a very perilous position....it will be a minor miracle if we stay up. There is no doubt in my mind that McInally is the best manager we have had since Rae`s resurrection.....McPherson, Cormack and Cowboy all proved duds.....whose to say that he`ll get it right this time? No doubt it will be all Rae`s fault if we go down....in fact I see threads that it is time for hime to go....so do you know anyone else who would like to incur a debt of £1million and lose £250k per year?
Personally I think we should have been giving 100% support at every home game this season...and supported McInally and the team vociferously. If at the end of the season the team had failed then that would have been the time to change...instead we have had rancour and criticism all season....now find ourselves in the s**t with no leader......but as long as you lot of pri**ks are happy....

You're just in the huff because JM's now at home looking after the weans and Nani's been sacked handed in 'her' resignation.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 12:24:30
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Feb 12 2008, 12:00 PM) [snapback]401964[/snapback]
If you look at the balance sheet of Golden Casket you will see that DDF has "invested" over £2 million in shares of Greenock Morton. You might not say it but it does not alter the truth...

I'm sure most of the fans don't have access to the Golden Casket Accounts tail bearer. Fancy a wee 'cut and paste'?
mortonjag 2008-02-12 12:29:28
QUOTE(Embraton @ Feb 12 2008, 12:17 PM) [snapback]401981[/snapback]
You're forgetting the fans task in all this. There has been no 12th man at Cappielow this season, the atmosphere in the main has been shocking, and all we get from this forum is whingers. The negative attitude is bound to have rubbed off on the manager and the team. DR's points are valid. JM was honourable in leaving to allow a fresh start and take some of the criticism away from the players. It's time for the fans to be honourable and get behind the team instead of feeling like scolded children because DR has hurt their feelings. Get a life and get behind the team or we will go down and then it will be the fans fault!

The fans' task eh!!

'If any of our products fails to satisfy please return it and we will refund the cost in full'

Consumers don't have 'a task' to accept crap for their hard earned cash. It's perfectly clear that the fans have been literally worn out by frustration and disappointment-it won't take much to win them back and that IS the task for Mr Rae.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 12:33:37 wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-12 13:32:16
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 12 2008, 01:21 PM) [snapback]402072[/snapback]
That's what they've been paid to say

OK Ill meet you at 3p.m. outside Cappielow-you'll know me 'cos Il'll be in my Jag with the personalised RAE plate-just a word of warning-I may have to leave sharpish if my father appears.

Now here's the deal-you get £10 up front, a Golden Casket Christmas Selection box, and a signed picture of Nacho Novo.

All you do in return is confirm you've met this Ernie guy who calls himself me-I mean Mortonjag.

By the way, I'm sorry my father made a complete arse of himself yesterday-we were all f*cking fuming, but there's a will to be considered-we pray a lot you know-damn-I'm digressing again-OK three o'clock it is-see ya.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 14:34:15
QUOTE(Waverley @ Feb 12 2008, 01:45 PM) [snapback]402088[/snapback]
Dougie has reportedly gone on a week-long business trip. Not sure if it's sweetie or footie business. Maybe he is doing a world tour, holding interviews for the vacant position. lol. What a time to be away.

Last time he was away on a business trip we humped Gretna in the cup.This MUST augur well for Saturday-no JM AND no Rae-the boys will think they've won the lottery.

C'mon lads!
mortonjag 2008-02-12 14:45:17
QUOTE(princessTON @ Feb 11 2008, 10:25 PM) [snapback]401552[/snapback]
cappie the cat is 5000-1 and mortonjags monkey is 10000/1 tongue.gif

Got to be worth a 5p bet princess! For a start he's already applied in writing (of sorts). Secondly he has all the necessary attributes-obedience, flexibility, an eagerness to please, and the ability to hear no evil, see no evil, and speak no evil.

What I believe will swing it for him, mind you is the salary-he only wants peanuts! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-12 14:53:01
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 12 2008, 02:46 PM) [snapback]402140[/snapback]
This bit is bulls***. He hasn't turned on us, people should f*cking read what the statement says.
He isn't alienating his source of income. The people who are interpriting the statement all wrong, such as yourself, mortonjag and nach0king, and are taking it most to heart, are you really going to stop going to matches?

GG you're being stubborn and flying in the face of fact.

Talking of performances (and remember Jim ultimately went because of poor results) Rae said-''our players seem to have suffered more from the criticism level at home games'.

If ever there was a direct 'cause and result' comment that is it. As I suggested earlier he had a gilt edged opportunity to welcome a new horizon. He did not have to bum Jim up in the ridiculous way he did while blaming the fans for the poor man's departure. I'm fed up hearing excuses for the old clown.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 14:55:40
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 12 2008, 02:46 PM) [snapback]402141[/snapback]
It has. sad.gif and if you are not hearing it in the stand jpmil then be thankful.
The WDE of the Cowshed is slightly better but I might try the stand next season.

Please NO.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 16:10:15
QUOTE(ianton @ Feb 12 2008, 03:33 PM) [snapback]402168[/snapback]
Dougie only deals in sweets so he's f***ed

Oh he'd settle for a foam banana and a sook of one of Shoogly's black striped balls once a week I'm sure.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 16:29:54 I remember '88 well. I was working in Airdrie and there was a spell of smashing car windows and nicking the radios which lasted for months. The local police introduced CCTV to the town centre and the problem went away. Airdrie was the first Scottish town to adopt 'Big Brother' techniques. Oh and about that time I got rid of my Escort RS turbo for a Porsche 944. You hardly see them now and they look utterly dated.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 21:46:17
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 12 2008, 05:43 PM) [snapback]402280[/snapback]
there's just no talking to u is there? your post was nonsense and even though i know you know this i'm aware that you would argue black is white until the death. the poster didn't mention she was a young female (as if that matters) until well after lcm's initial post. so you're talking pish about something which shouldn't be an issue anyway.

jesus christ

I didn't realise you and Narcissus were such close friends forza-that puts you down in my estimation!
mortonjag 2008-02-12 21:48:02
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 12 2008, 07:43 PM) [snapback]402438[/snapback]
no thanks on the hug front.

i've been saying for ages that pms are a bad idea. this one is pretty mild, but i'm sick of getting them from anonymous wanks, male or female.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Obviously that mirror's kiddin' you on Narcissus!
mortonjag 2008-02-12 21:49:57
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 12 2008, 07:44 PM) [snapback]402440[/snapback]
away and shove your rolleyes.gifsnidey patter up your arse, you loathsome reptile.

Not something you'd be acquainted with my son! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-12 21:52:00
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 12 2008, 04:47 PM) [snapback]402221[/snapback]
im sure an alcoholic would give peter weatherson the right attitude to stop enjoying the pints tongue.gif

if these are the candidates that are about like paterson and campbell then please please please get Jim Duffy in now!

Is he not a recovering alcoholic PT?
mortonjag 2008-02-12 21:56:57
QUOTE(floydpink26 @ Feb 12 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]402288[/snapback]
Couldnt agree more m8...Im a true fan and i'll take Dougies comments on the chin,Ya give it out plenty to DDFR MJ...So put yer toys back in yer pram

You sound more like a wimp than a true fan.

I'm sure Rae adores myopic fools who still give him credit for reason.

Please try to see the big picture-the man has become a liability and the sooner all TRUE fans are united on the issue, the sooner he's likely to step aside or be pushed aside.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:00:48
QUOTE(floydpink26 @ Feb 12 2008, 06:19 PM) [snapback]402331[/snapback]
I really wouldnt mind Super Ro as Manager But i'd prefer Jim Duffy(The Experience with working with various top clubs and his Management skills would be the winning factor for me over Alexander).It ok saying that "Oh Gretna bought there way to the success they had" But at the time when Alexander was in charge he was the 1 that essentialy pick the players to buy and therefore built the squad that gained Gretna success...Now its only common sense that this couldnt have been achived with out the financial backing he got,But he was still the 1 that had to identify and bring the players he did to Gretna and look where he took them.Ill be very disappointed if it isnt 1 of these two who get the Morton job

Also to add...I hope Rowan what ever he does, all the best and that he gets what he is due from Gretna...I've herd that Mileson has said that he'll close the club rather than pay Rowan what he's owed...Interesting times on the Horizon for Gretna,As i feel once they go down they will sink like a stone to the level of a club like.. no disrespect... East Stirling.

Something I predicted three seasons ago. At the time I was attacked and laughed at in exactly the same way as you've just attacked me about Rae.

Mortonjag doesn't do 'Toys and prams'! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:04:09
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 12 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]402350[/snapback]
thats because none of them have our fans.

he had a good relationship with JM and wanted him to stay so obviously he was going to say nice stuff about him.

what it comes down to was JM left and Dougie let him leave purely because of the fans, which i see as a positive rather than a negative. he gave us what we wanted despite not wanting it himself.

That's just where you and most of the others disagree PT-it's because none of them have for Chairman a man who appears to be teetering on the verge of insanity.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:05:24
QUOTE(ianton @ Feb 12 2008, 06:11 PM) [snapback]402320[/snapback]
just supply him with a drip feed to the Norseman and he'll be fine.

unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:09:36
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 12 2008, 07:44 PM) [snapback]402439[/snapback]
Excellent show of dignity by both men.
Get Dougie in the hot seat, now that would be entertainment worth the entrance fee.

Would they allow him to use the microphone?
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:11:48
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 12 2008, 08:19 PM) [snapback]402461[/snapback]
He's not all he's quacked up to be tongue.gif
Coat !!!!!

laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:13:23
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 12 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]402462[/snapback]
where did you get that idea?
oh yeah. he told us about 395 times. since december.

rolleyes.gif

Can't quite work out if it's jealousy or resentment Narcissus.

Did somebody chop off the wrong goolie? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:15:29
QUOTE(nani @ Feb 12 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]402302[/snapback]
John Davies? Warren Hawke? Paul Fenwick? Steve Paterson? Quality suggestions from the intelligencia that post on here. Much better than McInally eh? Maybe I was dreaming but I think someone suggested Billy Davies on an interim basis. What planet do you inhabit pal? Same as the buffoons that suggested Neil Warnock awhile ago. Stephen Pressley? Equally ludicrous. Jim Duffy is probably as good as it gets although maybe Shoogly is so irritated with the lot of you that he may inflict Dick Campbell on us....before putting us up for sale in the Summer....any of you got any dough?

Hey nanny-you're not obliged to use big words which you can't spell!
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:18:02
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Feb 12 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]402372[/snapback]
To be fair, Mortonjag hasn't contributed to this thread (yet)! laugh.gif laugh.gif

There, there darling! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:18:58
QUOTE(nani @ Feb 12 2008, 06:49 PM) [snapback]402378[/snapback]
Sorry Marshy you did come up with Steve Paterson.....alcoholic with two recent disasters behind him. Good shout.

Recovering alcoholic I believe.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:21:42
QUOTE(gorkir @ Feb 12 2008, 07:13 PM) [snapback]402422[/snapback]
nobody is saying he's not intelligent
but he's not got the experience of football that Pressley has

My own opinion is that the people that tout Hawke only think he's a hero/legend because he stood up to Scott, (which was great) but he cant be considered a legend for his football ability because other than his first 6 months at Morton he was very much an average player so he cant be considered a legend for that

Jim McInally had tons of experience in football Nanny-Hal Stewart had none.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:22:49
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 12 2008, 08:32 PM) [snapback]402474[/snapback]
He's sane for starters.

Won't relate very well to the Chairman then.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:27:06
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Feb 12 2008, 05:03 PM) [snapback]402235[/snapback]
This is what this thread is all about:

"It is interesting to note, when examining our performances, that we have won 15 points from away fixtures, the third highest in the league, while at home we have gained the fewest points, only 9 out of a possible 36, this suggests our players appear to have suffered more from the criticism level at home games than when playing in front of our more supportive travelling fan base"

There is very little that is directly offensive in that paragraph (except for the fact that it is an offendingly long sentence!); it is simply stating fact.

As my above post says, I believe that this paragraph could have been left out of the statement, but Dougie (along with an awful lot of supporters) appreciates that the players do seem more nervous at home that when we are away from home. And how many times have folk on here commented on how the atmosphere seems negative at Cappielow unless we are winning?

I don't take it personally at all and I realise that it is just an old chap who is hurting over the fact that an employee with whom he has worked well has resigned under such disappointing circumstances. If the statement upsets you then perhaps you have a guilty conscience.

It was an ill-advised statement that has been over-scrutinized by folk with too much time on their hands. That said, I think it would be wise if Dougie clarified his statement and underlined the fact that the fans have a massive role to play from now until May and that the players need our support. A rallying cry if you will. Also, a bit more interaction from the players (following Jenkins' example on Saturday) would not go amiss.

You should apply to become Gordon Brown's new spin doctor!!!
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:28:00
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 12 2008, 05:06 PM) [snapback]402238[/snapback]
Great post !

Intelligent and informative comment! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:29:40
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 12 2008, 05:45 PM) [snapback]402283[/snapback]
I don't think anyone (including Rae) is saying that though.

That is abundantly clear.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:32:43
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Feb 12 2008, 07:12 PM) [snapback]402420[/snapback]
Well said Nacho, although that eejit Mortonjag and his clique won't agree with you. laugh.gif laugh.gif

Correct-he doesn't give a toss about JM-the old fool was still just trying to justify his appointment, who would clearly have had us in the SPL and Europe by now if there had been none of those pesky fans to spoil match days.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:41:02
QUOTE(cappielow riot @ Feb 12 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]402507[/snapback]
Not a poll just a thought. Is dougie being clever? After all, he can call the fans what he likes but the majority will still turn up (give or take a Few hundred) but he still looks like Jims best mate. Result - jimbo leaves of his own accord thus no compensation (is that right?). Alternatively he's completely nuts and needs to get to feck. Successful businessman, being devious, playing politics.....surely not.

Wonder how much its costing for Jim to go

Just an (addled) thought though

laugh.gif

You have a way with words-I like you!
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:46:25
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 12 2008, 05:30 PM) [snapback]402266[/snapback]
Most people here won't have really sat/stood amongst home fans of other teams that much, so I think the point is moot.

I'd be very, very surprised if Morton were a great dael worse than other fans of a team our size.

I'm not surprised, however, that the club is content to use this as a crutch for the other failings. Even if we are awful fans, it doesn't excuse a lot of what goes on, yet apparently many seem to think that it does.

True. It's not so very long ago that we couldn't even cram into the stand at Methil for that 'cruncher' with E Fife. That day we were as good as any fans get.

It's not the fans who have changed-they have reacted in a perfectly normal way to perfectly abnormal stewardship of OUR club.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:49:26
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 12 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]402410[/snapback]
I edited in the ohmy.gif smiley, I was trying (badly) to take the piss.

I reckon SmithsTON is a skunk, it's the only plausible explanation at this point.

You're not normally so lavish in your praise.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:52:28
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 12 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]402487[/snapback]
Eh, I think that was exactly the point Dougies was making, while asking the perfectly legitimate question as to why that should be the case.

To all Ton fans the bottom line is this, if you don't dish out abuse to players then his comments weren't aimed at you so why are you bothered?

If you do dish it out, then be man enough to take it back and stop f***ing winging like a daft wee lassie.

laugh.gif

You accused me of being argumentative!!!

It doesn't matter whether the old clown was trying to transfer the blame for his stupidity in appointing JM onto one or one million fans.

THAT is the point.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 23:02:46
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 12 2008, 10:16 PM) [snapback]402574[/snapback]
He was a Proctologist, but was struck off for making an arse of it. Then he turned to Gynaecology.......... well, you know the rest.

C*nt believe you just said that Mr Edwards!
mortonjag 2008-02-12 23:06:43
QUOTE(El gofer @ Feb 12 2008, 10:18 PM) [snapback]402577[/snapback]
HMMMM.....

Getting rid of a chairman is one thing. Celtic replaced their Chairman. Quinn with Reid.

Our Chairman is our Majority Shareholder and , hence our owner. All the best folks!

Another personal attack there MJ. "On the verge of insanity." For a pedant like yourself, do you have concrete proof of this or is it because of the press release, which most, whether they have agreed with it or not, concede that it had some reason behind it.

Why dont you ask for a wee meeting with Rae? You seem to have a number of ideas for the club. Or even a meeting with Shareholders. Or better still, become a shareholder. Other than that you are just a faceless critic who has made 15000 posts about the subject and done not much else.

a man who appears to be teetering on the verge of insanity.

hate to be pedantic, but it would help your cause if you read first, and talked through your arse later.

That, by the way, IS my considered medical opinion about Rae. I may very well be wrong.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 23:09:34
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 12 2008, 10:39 PM) [snapback]402591[/snapback]
I'm sure he's been accused of that many times. Like every time he bails out the Morton balance sheet, mad he might be.

Golden Casket!
mortonjag 2008-02-12 23:13:22
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 12 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]402586[/snapback]
Nanny-Hal? Do you know something about his past predilictions?

At least he goat us somewhere.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 23:15:13
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 12 2008, 09:59 PM) [snapback]402550[/snapback]
I think that Clark will pick the team, insofar as it doesn't pick itself.

unless it contracts chickenpox.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 23:16:45
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Feb 12 2008, 11:04 PM) [snapback]402618[/snapback]
Clark will pick the team. Rae has NEVER picked a Morton team.

hey Dino-you shouldn't make statements like that unless you can substantiate them.

Has he ever 'helped' to pick a team? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-12 23:18:47
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 12 2008, 11:04 PM) [snapback]402616[/snapback]
IYNSHO

Yes!
mortonjag 2008-02-12 23:21:24
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 12 2008, 10:03 PM) [snapback]402553[/snapback]
when you're as ugly as i am, you tend to avoid mirrors. maybe someone as unpleasant as yourself should avoid public forums.

I'm bitterly disappointed-I had this image of you-well I won't go into detail-but let's just say I'm disappointed.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 23:23:37
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 12 2008, 10:58 PM) [snapback]402611[/snapback]
i knew the guy to see many moons ago. that's not the point. you're a freak and i don't care what you think of me.

I don't know you-you are merely a keyboard persona.

Clearly you must have met me at some point-I am truly freakish-not an ex-patient I hope.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 23:27:06
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 12 2008, 11:21 PM) [snapback]402629[/snapback]
and this considered medical opinion is based on how many face to face interviews, mr weasel?

Ever heard of telephone diagnosis you clown. What do you know about the interpretation of signs and symptoms Mr Stoat?
mortonjag 2008-02-13 05:52:26
QUOTE(El gofer @ Feb 13 2008, 12:59 AM) [snapback]402669[/snapback]
huh.gif unsure.gif *shivvers* unsure.gif

I've commented before that Shipman was an amateur.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 05:56:57
QUOTE(CivicTypeR @ Feb 13 2008, 01:54 AM) [snapback]402680[/snapback]
Maybe you should stop being so abusive to people then and they wouldnt send you shoddy pms. Ever thought of that?

Don't be too hard on the Manky Dog- Honda- he's just a bit spoilt and self indulgent. I think when he was a pup Mummy Manky Dog followed him around everywhere with a poop scoop, and he's never quite got over the notion that he can crap on anything he likes.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 06:19:20
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Feb 12 2008, 11:39 PM) [snapback]402642[/snapback]
Can you substatiate that?

I don't doubt that Rae has had a say in some of our signings, but I don't think it was the final say. Take John Maisano for example: Dougie was desperate for John to stay apparently, but McInally did not rate him.

Substantiate a question-obviously not! unsure.gif

In answer to BrIDo though, somebody stated quite clearly recently that Rae had unashamedly told him at Hospitality that he and JM had 'sat down together the previous day and picked the team'.

I can't be bothered doing a search, but recall it was one of our fairly regular (and reliable) posters.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 06:25:03
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 12 2008, 11:48 PM) [snapback]402646[/snapback]
do we actually need a manager?

after all, a few posters have opined that we won promotion in spite of mcinally.

won't our performances now improve by default? rolleyes.gif

Yes-at least on Saturday when I fully expect a victory.

It's a fresh start for the squad, and I understand Rae is 'away on a business trip'.

I hope he finds it therapeutic.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 06:28:18
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 12 2008, 11:29 PM) [snapback]402636[/snapback]
The Rae family is Golden Casket.

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Aha Mr Edwards, of that I'm aware-does the extended Rae family approve of the Godfather's frittering of their hard earned pennies?
mortonjag 2008-02-13 06:29:03
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 12 2008, 11:29 PM) [snapback]402637[/snapback]
yes - have you interviewed mr rae?

Yes!
mortonjag 2008-02-13 06:35:50
QUOTE(El gofer @ Feb 12 2008, 11:44 PM) [snapback]402645[/snapback]
Ok you have dealt with that point, by way of a vague personal slight on me.

What is your response to the other points though? Will you be looking to do something proactive to help our club then? Is it your considered medical opinion that he appears to be on the verge of insanity, or is on the verge of insanity? Surely if this is your considered opinion and you are after all a professional, then this would be benefitting our club to divulge this in person.

You have divulge your perceived opinion on the ailments of our club......... got any realistic suggestion of a cure rather than simply switch of the machine?

I've already stated frequently that Rae should accept an Honorary role and devolve control to his son and Alistair Donald.

Are you honestly going to tell me you didn't know that?

I doubt it.

You come over as another poster who resents my making valid points and asking pertinent questions, and the stock response to someone who has no active clout in GMFC is 'What are you going to do about it'?

I'm doing everything I bloody well can Gofer, and it's my belief that those who cling on to the notion that Rae is still good for the club are actually doing their fellow fans a disservice.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 06:37:57
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 12 2008, 11:49 PM) [snapback]402647[/snapback]
It doesn't need to be that way. Its 'Bad Pub syndrome', where a landlord has no manners, smells of BO, sells crap beers and cleans the glasses with his groggers, and has the cheek to complain that his business is doing poorly.

Not passing comment on our esteemed chairmans personal hygiene here, but the lesson is get the product that people want right and they'll be back for more.

I like your style, and there is a 'cheapskate' element about the Rae dynasty-of that I'm in no doubt.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 06:39:47
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 13 2008, 12:00 AM) [snapback]402651[/snapback]
You may be missing my point. Being more customer friendly in the lower divisions won't stem the losses. Morton will continue to make losses until such time it gains promotion to the SPL. Until such time, we'll need a sugar daddy to sustain us. And I'm sure a lot of folk might think he's mad to be doing this.

That's a circular argument DE. If it hadn't been for his megalomanic illness we'd have been in the SPL some time ago.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 06:41:37
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Feb 13 2008, 12:36 AM) [snapback]402666[/snapback]
I don't think it is reasonable to comment on whether or not we need a "sugar daddy" or not until the club is ran like a proper business with regards to merchandising, marketing and public relations to name but a few aspects- that's without even getting into the footballing side of things. That GMFC isn't running at anywhere near it's maximum potential in terms of generating revenue should be blatantly obvious to anyone, hopefully Mr Donald will make moves very quickly to address that in his role of "overview".

Agreed and if Mr Donald has any real power Rae will be wheeled into the conservatory to enjoy the sun.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 06:44:22 A new manager can be appointed on a performance basis-contract till the season's end and renewable by mutual consent. I'd certainly give Duffy a shot on that basis.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 06:48:14
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 13 2008, 12:05 AM) [snapback]402656[/snapback]
Can't believe how some on this thread slated and berated Alexander and are now saying he's a nice guy and is just what we need.

FFS if you're going to make statements about Managers at least be consistent !!!

Consistency would spoil the mischief for 75% of or posters Willow! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-13 07:40:57 CONFIDENTIAL medical records are being revealed by some Inverclyde GPs, it was claimed today.

Patients�€™ histories, stretching back up to 15 years, are sent to other health professionals who don�€™t need to see them, the Tele has been told.

GPs referring patients to physiotherapists, for example, are sending out full computerised records containing details about abortions, attempted suicides and drug problems.

These comprehensive details are also sent to occupational therapists, podiatrists, dieticians and orthoptists, who fit surgical shoes.

One of the health professionals said: �€œGiving out all this sensitive information is totally unnecessary and could be very embarrassing for patients.

�€œThere is no way you need to know all this if you�€™re treating someone�€™s sore leg.

�€œOnly certain GPs are doing it. This has only started since computerisation came in. Some GPs can�€™t be bothered sifting through the information and taking out the stuff that has absolutely no relevance to the treatment we are being asked to give.

�€œThis information is also being seen by non-medical people, such as health centre receptionists. I think the public would be appalled if they knew what was going on.

�€œWith the best will in the world, it is difficult not to let this influence your opinion of the person you are treating.�€�

Greenock and Inverclyde MSP Duncan McNeil said he was �€˜very concerned�€™ to hear the allegations.

He said: �€œWe must get assurances that such information is being given for appropriate medical consultations.

�€œThe health board needs to make a clear statement about how, when and for what reason medical records are passed on. People will have less confidence in the system where they believe such sensitive information is being passed on totally unnecessarily.�€�

A spokeswoman for NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde said: �€œAll professionals working within the NHS adhere strictly to the highest standards of patient confidentiality.

�€œThis is not only a legal requirement but also a matter of professional ethics, strongly supported by regulatory systems.

�€œFurthermore, our staff, whether clinical or administrative, always deliver the highest standards of care and any social judgments others might make are completely irrelevant in these circumstances.

�€œTo suggest otherwise is not only offensive to these hard-working professionals, but also to those patients for whom they care.

�€œHealth records are routinely shared among staff from different disciplines within the NHS and this has always been the case.

�€œAdministrative staff have always been responsible for transferring and sharing medical records.

�€œThis process has been made safer and even more robustly protected through medical records now being stored electronically.

�€œIt is disappointing that the health professional who outlined their concerns to you did not raise them with local managers in the first instance.


Earth shattering news in the 'tilly'.

Imagine medical receptionists being able to see patients notes! Well bless my soul!

The truth is that those other 'Health Professionals' have clamoured for more information and more say in patient care for years.

Now , when they are sent confidential information on a confidential basis, their wee lips are tripping them because they haven't the wit to tease out the relevant stuff. G.P's are FAR too busy to do that for them.

Take it or leave it, and more importantly, if you can't handle sensitive clinical information discreetly, stop conning people with the term 'Health Professional'.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 07:55:36
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Feb 13 2008, 07:50 AM) [snapback]402703[/snapback]
The Chairman's statements have become a thing of legend in a car crash sort of way. If he needs to find a reason for our miserable season then he needs look no further than the following:

'I was disappointed to note from the unofficial message board that the Club was being criticised for lack of effort and lack of ambition because we have not yet made any close season signings. Isn’t it disappointing to note that the ‘negativity boys’ are at it again? They are never happier than when they have a good old moan. Thankfully the majority of our support has greater trust and confidence in the management of our Club than some of the correspondents of the unofficial message board’!.........we believe that we have an excellent pool of players at Cappielow and, having led the league last year from day one until promotion was achieved, we also believe that the guys who took us up have thus earned the chance to play in Division One. ......Do you not think that these same lads deserve to lead us into the 1st Division?'

The Chairman was talking bollox then as even a blind man could see that our championship winning side had glaring defficiencies both in playing and managerial staff. There were a number of our lads who were never going to make the grade at Div 1 and most of us knew this (apart from those that mattered). The chairman can point the finger at fans as much as he likes but ultimately he and his management team are entirely responsible for the current predicament we are in and the atmosphere at Cappielow.

For what it's worth I have no confidence or trust in the Chairman, and his comic opera martinet outburst is just another feeble attempt to shift responsibility from where it really belongs.

Seems he's been upsetting others too!!!


By Roger Graham

IT would have been easier to break out of Colditz than to get any comment from Morton yesterday regarding the future of manager Jim McInally.

When the news did finally break, it came via an emailed statement to the Telegraph mirroring that which later appeared on the club website, giving no opportunity for any points to be raised.

It leaves unanswered questions, most pressingly who will take charge of the team at Dundee on Saturday.

The Ton boss had been in talks yesterday with chairman Douglas Rae following the weekend home defeat by Clyde which plummetted the club down into second bottom place in the table.

Repeated calls were not returned and at 3.15pm the Telegraph was finally told that Mr Rae was off on a week’s business trip with no comment to make.

Nor was anyone else contactable. Finally, a call was received informing the paper that a statement would appear on the club’s official website. At the same time an email was sent to the Telegraph with a copy of that statement.




More superb PR Shoogly-biting off the hand that feeds you?
mortonjag 2008-02-13 08:02:01
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 13 2008, 07:52 AM) [snapback]402704[/snapback]
oh the ironic banter biggrin.gif

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There is no irony at all Darling Trumpet-I do crap frequently (careful with my diet) but my targets are selected.

Certain posters are supremely keechotropic. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-13 08:06:34
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 13 2008, 07:45 AM) [snapback]402701[/snapback]
An Owl outside your window all night is bad enough, twiting and woo'ing all night but when the local one has a fecking stutter, it drives you mad all night.
Tw'Tw'Tw'Tw'Tw'Twit, to woooooo

All night long hardly got a wink of sleep.
Boss expect me doing nothing today, and be a grumpy as a woman with PMT

Sean, don't get yourself in a flutter
Your boss may suspect you're a nutter
He'll think it's pure sh1te
That you've been up all night
Because of an owl with a ssssssstutter.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 08:12:06
QUOTE(piehutt @ Feb 13 2008, 07:46 AM) [snapback]402702[/snapback]
I think Paterson is a decent manager, albeit he's never spent much time out of the highlands, but again far too many questionmarks over his personal issues.

Therefore, can't see it happening.

Paterson will need to join a club as a coach and prove he is over his problems before he could get a managers job again.

His problems will always be there. That doesn't mean he won't stay sober for the rest of his life.

I imagine though, that even a Quaker would be driven to drink if he joined the cast of the Shoogly Show.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 08:14:45
QUOTE(cappielow riot @ Feb 13 2008, 08:11 AM) [snapback]402711[/snapback]
You should see me when I'm drunk.

on reflection I'll go for the latter. When you have 'Turmoil at Cappielow' headlines the finger can only be pointed in one direction...the top.

And I know what position my finger is held in too! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-13 08:52:08
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 13 2008, 08:41 AM) [snapback]402717[/snapback]
what did he make of your thesis, and what do you think he made of you?

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I was merely one of several interviewers Trumpet-I only had the opportunity to ask one question, the answer to which he completely evaded by changing the subject!

Seriously though, are you aware that there are several extremely sophisticated computer programmes aimed at establishing the causes of illness?

Particularly in the field of psychiatry, they can be incredibly accurate.

Thus a collection of observations of behaviour made and reported by third parties with no medical expertise, can be used to provide a probable diagnosis.

I'm sure that even you will agree when I say we have a plethora of clues and information about Mr Rae!
mortonjag 2008-02-13 08:57:48
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 13 2008, 08:49 AM) [snapback]402724[/snapback]
The Escort looks very dated (it was pretty dated even in 88!) but the 944 still looks pretty good. and isn't the idea of Porsches looking dated a bit ironic when you consider that their top of the range ones are descended from the 1963 911 and up till recently looked very similar to that model?

I actually prefer the look of a ten to fifteen year old 911-the models with the flared rear arches look very mean and purposeful.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 08:59:28
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 13 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]402726[/snapback]
Ach well, it takes one to know one. wink.gif

You'd know then.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 09:09:13
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 13 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]402730[/snapback]
yes, makes you wonder whether this is a tribute to the field of artificial intelligence or a side-swipe at the medical profession wink.gif

and you do know that one of the challenges of AI is to create a prgram whose responses are indistinguishable from those of a human being rolleyes.gif

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We should sign a computer as manager-mind you Shoogly won't even pay for a defibrillator, so perhaps not!
mortonjag 2008-02-13 10:38:00
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 13 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]402756[/snapback]
The Escort RS Turbo, in particular the Series 1, is considered a classic now. A good one can sell for up to £7k.

Porsches are just gay.

I'd agree that boxters are common and effeminate-I'd not describe them as 'Gay'.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 10:41:27
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 13 2008, 09:29 AM) [snapback]402734[/snapback]
i dont care enough about the situation to waste my time doing that, this has been a complete non-event blown completely out of proportion by some fans reading between the lines and coming up with " dougie blames fans for us being s*** " just because they dont like him.

i dont like him as a chairman and think he has made a lot more mistakes than he's done good things and i have plenty more things to attack him on than having to put a spin on his words in a statement thanking JM for his work.



But that's the WHOLE point PT-he spun it as though JM was a brilliant man AND manager who would have succeeded but for the evil fans. If you can't see that, fair enough, but even the tabloids took that connotation from his statement.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 10:46:04
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 13 2008, 09:45 AM) [snapback]402739[/snapback]
alex williams was a p***k but a decent footballer, i bet your opinion of him changed due to his personal problem of being a p***k.

i wouldnt hire a manic depressive, mentally ill serial killer to babysit my children (when i have them), but of course thats descrimatory because it doesnt change how good a babysitter they are.

People with bi-polar illness rarely become serial killes PT! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-13 10:47:42
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 13 2008, 09:48 AM) [snapback]402740[/snapback]
To discuss team selection could mean a lot of things, not necessarily active meddling. I'd be surprised if McInally, or any Morton manager for that matter, was ever forced to play a player against his will, or in a position at Rae's choosing. Which is what Romanov insists upon Hearts coaches.

I wouldn't.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 10:48:57
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 13 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]402742[/snapback]
even if he is, spending the next three years at least in greenock is going to put a stop to that!

Spending three days with Rae-more like!
mortonjag 2008-02-13 10:53:34
QUOTE(El gofer @ Feb 13 2008, 10:14 AM) [snapback]402749[/snapback]
MJ, you obviously have me down as some sort of Rae apologist. Far from it. I will say that I wont look at every single minute detail of his steardship though. If you have said previously, and sorry I havent read all your posts so forgive me for missing your campaign to have DDFR put in an honorary role, then fair enough.
Its just not the angle I thought you would take.
Also I am not privvy to the sterling work you are doing behind the scenes for Morton Football Club, so again forgive me for not knowing you were trying your best.

Thanks for that-it's perhaps slightly excessive to describe my 'behind the scenes' work as 'sterling'-surely you weren't attempting to be sarcastic-but you are correct in believing that I have the best interests of the Club at heart.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 10:58:15
QUOTE(jpmil @ Feb 13 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]402751[/snapback]
I've never Boo'd Morton but this season has seen me, through total frustration, walk out of Cappielow before the final whistle. The standard of play has been shocking and not helped in any way by JM's continual footering with "tactics" and wierd and incomprehensible substitutions.
Under the "new man" whoever he turns out to be things can hardly get any worse than under JM.
If, and I say if, we go down then let's go down with the "correct" Manager for a quick return to Div.1

I'm utterly confident we won't go down now. We have a fresh start and that should generate enough impetus within the squad and fans to at least keep us afloat.

It IS, however, extremely ironic that Rae claimed publicly he wanted JM to stay.

I have a feeling it was not nearly so simple.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 11:02:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 13 2008, 10:56 AM) [snapback]402774[/snapback]
his words were misguided, or rather the way he worded it but it left it open to mis-interpratation. it would probably have been best if he'd said nothing at all since he knows how fragile our fans are when it comes to everything going onat the club the last couple of years but i dont have a problem with what he actually said.

it may be more noticable but it doesnt matter really how many people do it, if the players cant hear it at away games before theyre further from the pitch or something then its not an issue, theres no difference between shouting it and them not hearing it than me turning to my mate and saying it.

the fact is at home they can hear everything shouted at them from the cowshed because the whole ground is ghostly silent with the exception of some away fans.
you make me tingle in a way i havent felt since before my Uncle John who used to babysit me died.

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you were abooooosed?
mortonjag 2008-02-13 11:08:10
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 13 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]402770[/snapback]
well it was a tribute to JM for his hard work so its hardly going to be scathing. he also said that we hadnt picked up many points lately home or away , and he didnt blame that on the fans...which meant he must have blamed it on the manager and the players.

the tabloids took it as an attack after seeing fans reactions on this site, football phone in's etc.

do you really think that if no fan had made a big deal about this then theyd have the headline " chairman has a blast at fans? "

you give tabloid newspapers far too much credit, they get 80% of their info from fans, 10% from clubs and 10% from " sources " .

and all he said was that JM felt the only way the fans would start to support the players again was if he left....WHICH IS TRUE!.

So in summation of your multiple posts, you think Rae did not mean to insult or upset the fans, and you do not believe he was blaming them for poor form.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 11:17:47
QUOTE(Kekkoman @ Feb 13 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]402782[/snapback]
As in Gordon Ramsay? Dont see how he would be better than dougie Rae. Apart from the obvious, his money, he would not improve anything. He would no doubt meddle just as much, probably more, and he doesnt have anywhere near the love for the club that Mr Rae has

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Ramsay's success is down to effective delegation. He keeps his finger on the pulse, and kicks ass where required, but he knows how to let folks get on with their jobs.

Mr Rae's 'love for the club' is one of those throw away phrases which people buy into mindlessly.

Define the 'Club'-is it the stadium, the squad , the fans, or perhaps a combination of all three?

I accept that Rae is a lifelong Morton supporter with a wee bit more cash than most of us. That put him in a position to save the 'Club' from extinction. Many of us may have done the same had we been equally well endowed.

If Rae 'loves the club', he certainly appears to hold its lifeblood-the fans- in scant regard.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 11:21:30
QUOTE(bonzo @ Feb 13 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]402763[/snapback]
I remember prior to the brick phones when kn*b ends used to walk round with a phone and battery about the size of a car battery. Doon in London for Scotland game, in the pub and this bozzo walks in we one of these monstrosities giving it the buy, buy buy, byebye crap.

I says to him i bet you canna ring my grannie on that phone, to which he replys i can ring anywhere in the world, do business any where in the world. Tell me her number and you can talk to her, and you tell her you are using a mobile phone, to which he gets the reply f*ck aff she's deed.

To which this plonkers mooth draps, an he buggers aff.

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mortonjag 2008-02-13 12:29:42
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 13 2008, 11:04 AM) [snapback]402781[/snapback]
its only abuse if you dont enjoy it.

That's highly debatable!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-13 12:33:57
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 13 2008, 11:21 AM) [snapback]402798[/snapback]
He didn't spin it that way at all Mortonjag, it's just your hyper sensitive and/or paranoid auld napper that choses to interpret it that way.

My interpretation is very different. I think he genuinely likes and respects Jim, and was giving him a 'reference' to help him find something else as soon as possible. I actually think that was a pretty decent of Dougie to do that, given that for all his failings as a manager Jim is still a fellow human being with a family to feed and bills and a mortgage to pay the same as most folk on here.

And he makes a wee comment that maybe, just maybe, some fans didn't help him or the team by the way they verbally abuse the players, and all of the sudden these same people turn from being passionate football fans into delicate wee souls who weep and wail on here like pathetic wee school lassies.

Some folk on here really need to grow some baws have a word with themselves.

Eh-because they disagree with YOUR opinion-FFS man you're just Shoogly in disguise! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-13 12:36:25
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 13 2008, 11:33 AM) [snapback]402803[/snapback]
i know he didnt mean to insult or upset the fans, and i believe he said we contributed to our poorer home form than away form.

i believe the words he used werent put too wisely because they can be spun to look like an attack on the fans by people who already dislike him and as we've seen on here when it comes to chairman, manager or players if someone has a dislike for someone then no matter if they ever do anything good they will never get any credit for it and are always looking for an excuse to have a go at them.

Good God-YOU'RE the mole Port Ton-I'd never have believed that. Does he wear pyjamas or a nightgown?

I KNOW he doesn't go to bed naked!
mortonjag 2008-02-13 12:50:54
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 13 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]402827[/snapback]
i'll see you in court then tongue.gif

SSSHHHH please! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-13 12:55:25 Nobody seems toknow what to make of Rowan. Forgetting his great playing days, he's courted controversy ever since he entered management. Irrespective of 'personal problems' he may or may not have, he certainly comes over as a volatile character who upset several players at Gretna-maybe they deserved that-I don't know.One thing's for sure-he and Mileson ended up 'hating each others guts'.

I just can't see Rae appointing him.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 14:29:59
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 13 2008, 01:01 PM) [snapback]402841[/snapback]
Nope, wrong again mortonjag, it's because if you're big enough to shout abuse at players then you should be big enough to take a gentle wee dig from an elderly gentleman on the chin without starting polls and winging like a greetin' faced wein.

Firstly Sir-I categorically NEVER shout abuse at players, but I respect the right of paying customers to express displeasure if they wish. Mr Rae pays stewards and Policemen /women to deal with it if it's unreasonable.

Secondly, your interpretation of his outburst as a 'wee dig' might fairly be described as one side of the argument, and my take that Rae is an improvident old clown getting his own back on those whom in his paranoid state he believes have brought us down (rather than his inept manager), is the other.

We are both equally entitled to our opinions.

Even the results of an (in my opinion) poorly worded poll indicate that the majority believes Shoogly was wrong,and the question was simply of whether or not he was correct to berate the fans.

What concerns me is that he has, in my utterly humble opinion, betrayed his true feelings towards us-and he clearly sees an 'us and them'.

This is far from the first time he has opened his mouth and let his belly rumble. Frankly I doubt if the man has the wit to know what a 'gentle dig' is.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 14:36:04 'Fraid I don't really have any strong opinion either way-first time I've not been able to vote in a poll! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-13 15:34:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 13 2008, 02:47 PM) [snapback]402880[/snapback]
you've portrayed your true feelings towards him though, and you clearly see an ' us and them '

thats like the kettle calling the pot racist.

I'm not sure that I understand where you're coming from PT. I've never attempted to disguise my 'true feelings' about Mr Rae's behaviour. In what way does that justify his behaviour?
mortonjag 2008-02-13 15:36:10
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 13 2008, 03:03 PM) [snapback]402883[/snapback]
New Manager - How Will He Be Decided?
By dictatorship. rolleyes.gif (remember he must meet the five point plan)

My worry too.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 15:39:12
QUOTE(Jackie @ Feb 13 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]402905[/snapback]
Names down on a bit of paper, tossed into a hat and one shall be pulled out randomly.

Name!
mortonjag 2008-02-13 22:03:25
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 13 2008, 04:23 PM) [snapback]402935[/snapback]
Manky, you have a PM mate.

TonInDublin

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mortonjag 2008-02-13 22:06:21
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 13 2008, 05:34 PM) [snapback]402966[/snapback]
Jesus, 14,404 posts of complete nonsense. I suppose it's possible if you have the time.

Thank you kind Sir-it's merely a matter of apportioning ones time-this forum is for general nonsense-the other is for private concerns.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 22:16:06
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 13 2008, 03:10 PM) [snapback]402886[/snapback]
Informative comment! thanks rolleyes.gif *sighs*

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Blind as ever you clot-your poll is fatally flawed and you can't see it! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-13 22:17:29
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 13 2008, 03:59 PM) [snapback]402919[/snapback]
Who is a great manager? mellow.gif Alex Mcleish? Walter Smith? Capello? Murhino? Ferguson?

Are there any "great managers" available to anyone outside the elite?

The best manager I remember at Morton was Benny Rooney but I dont know if he was good because the team was or vice versa.

Hal Stewart WAS a great manager-pity the children don't remember him.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 22:25:24
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 13 2008, 03:46 PM) [snapback]402912[/snapback]
so he should attempt to disguise his true feelings for the fans?

if the fans have the right to dislike him and shout about it from the rooftops then he has the right to dislike us.

if someone disliked me i would have no problem telling them i disliked them back.

where im coming from is that he's said about you (collective you) exactly the same thing as you said about him, but you expect him not to get offended by it but its okay for you to be.

STOP IT!

I don't give a f*ck if Rae is daft enough to grump at the fans-that's NOT the point.

What I resent is that he's tried to transfer BLAME.

HE is to blame-nobody else-if he'd got us to the SPL and we were doing OK I'd imagine complaining fans would deserve everything they got.

This is ENTIRELY different.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 22:28:20
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Feb 13 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]402916[/snapback]
I eagerly await the cloud of smoke drifting out of Cappielow to signify the appointment of the next lamb for slaughter.

(not to be confused with the pall of smoke coming from a burnt oot motor in Carwood Street)

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mortonjag 2008-02-13 22:36:54 There is not the remotest chance that Rae will appoint a character like Rowan Alexander.

Say what you like about the guy-he is not a mouse.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 22:38:08
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 13 2008, 09:07 PM) [snapback]403088[/snapback]
Oh FFS give the guy a break. sad.gif

WHY-he's not given us one for several years!
mortonjag 2008-02-13 22:39:11
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 13 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]403092[/snapback]
it wouldn't surprise me if he's in the huff. i remember hearing years ago that he had never sacked any workers from golden casket, so it's probably a big deal to the guy that a favoured employee - i know - had to go.

i'm sort of fascinated to know how long dougie can take this level of criticism. i'm not worried that he'll sell us down the river because he is a mortonian through and through, but i am a wee bit worried about what this must be doing to his health. i hope crawford isn't taking on his dad's seige mentality, because he's likely the next in charge, and i wouldn't like him to blame us for dougie's loss of innocence and whatever might follow, etc.

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mortonjag 2008-02-13 22:41:40
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 13 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]403103[/snapback]
So what if he's abroad, i believe modern technology allows you to keep in touch with people in different countries these days. dry.gif

Rae and modern technology are somewhat contradictory-ask the First Aiders at Cappielow, and pray it's not you next for that 'hearty'.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 22:49:06
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 13 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]403064[/snapback]
Exactly what JM was/is,a decent young coach, not yet a manager.
The more I think about it, the more I think he was hung out to dry, which is the real shame. sad.gif

JM may yet succeed-a nice, but too nice guy whom Rae saw coming a mile off.

I already feel very sorry for his successor.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 22:53:37
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 13 2008, 08:19 PM) [snapback]403057[/snapback]
Hmmm !!!

Not real fans ? No great loss IMO.



C dry.gif learly demonstrating the worth of your opinion!
mortonjag 2008-02-13 22:59:08
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Feb 13 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]403089[/snapback]
Dougy has only expressed a view which has been raised many times on here over the years - that the atmosphere is better at away games , than at home. And surprise surprise, the players are aware of this too.

Dougy wouldn't be my first choice guest at a dinner party but he's surely entitled to express an opinion ? If he has deeply offended any of yer mates Barbarossa , I'm sorry , but they should get over themselves and continue to support the team.

PersonallyI don't care if Dougy re coups every penny that he put into Morton ( and then some) because I will Never forget that he was the one to step in with his dosh in the first place , at a time when there wasn't exactly a long queue of millionaires fighting to save us.

Rae has blamed the home fans for poor form and praised JM in the same breath-he will NEVER admit he's wrong, he will NEVER change, and IMO he's made an utter fool of himself again.

Why people keep making excuses for this well nigh octogenarian buffoon defeats logic.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 23:03:47
QUOTE(BishopTon @ Feb 13 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]402985[/snapback]
As i have already stated on this forum before, I was in Hospitality at the QOS game at the beginning of the season. When speaking to me Douglas Rae openly stated that he sat down with Jim on the Friday and picked the team, he said things like we decided to drop Templeman and play Russell. There was in no way any ambiguity.

Sorry but Rae always has the last word...open your eyes people.....Morton is his Championship Manager(he's too old for PC games and has too much money)

TY-I was sure somebody had provided that information before.

Be prepared to be called a liar! laugh.gif

Sorry I hadn't read Smiffy's post-seems you already have!
mortonjag 2008-02-13 23:09:14
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 13 2008, 10:02 PM) [snapback]403151[/snapback]
I hope you're correct, mj.

If we had a manager in place before the opening of the last transfer window I'd have been more confident. As it stands we have to soldier on with what we've got - that includes a squad with no full-backs, no cover at centre half and an attack that can't buy a goal.

I genuinely fear we could finish in the automatic relegation spot so this appointment is possibly the most crucial in Morton's recent hsitory.

I think with JM gone and a 'newcomer' in the dugout (I won't be at all surprised if Clark is kept on for quite a while though), players like Smith and Jenkins will be able to take more initiative. Jenkins was already showing signs of true leadershipn Saturday.

Dundee will be knackered after last night. I fully expect a point at least.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 23:25:01
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 13 2008, 09:47 PM) [snapback]403126[/snapback]
I really don't think we have covered ourselves in glory this week, have we?

Firstly the joyous reaction when Jim resigned was disappointing to say the least. I don't think many folk would argue that it wasn't time for Jim to go, but he did the honourable thing. Easy for folk to say he should have done it long ago, but he's got a family to support and this wasn't just some kind of hobby for him, it was his livelihood. He may have had many shortcomings as a manager, but I've absolutely no doubt he always done his best.

It would have been nice if a few more of us could at least have had the humility to recognise that a decent bloke had lost his livelihood, and taken a bit of time to wish him well in the future before popping the champagne corks.

Then came the completely over-the-top reaction to Dougie's comments. I mean, come on to f***, just how sensitive do you have to be to be upset by that? Couldn't you just have accepted that he was probably upset that someone he really liked and admired as a person had resigned. I'm sure Dougie knew Jim's time was up as much as anybody - he admitted as much in the statement - but it still couldn't have been easy for the old boy. Grow up people.

No doubt I'll get a pasting for this but I think it had to be said.

Oh the pain-how many matches have you been at this season? I assure you WE have suffered.

Analogy

A terribly, terribly, terribly nice and decent surgeon has just managed to kill off half of his operating list in the last year. Because he's so terribly, terribly nice, and has a wife and family to support, and always does as he is bid, despite offering to go, he is persuaded by the head Consultant to stay on.

In the next three months he ends up killing 75% of all who arrive at his table-bereaved relatives are baying for his head on a plate, but still the Chief Consultant wants to hang onto this lovely, lovely man.

Eventually he does the honourable thing and resigns. The relatives are mightily relieved-some are even happy.

The Chief consultant makes a public statement to the effect that only when those bloody relatives started making so much fuss did his performance suffer, and that he had had state of the art operating facilities, and was a wonderful and honourable man.

Wake up and smell le cafe, CHC.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 23:28:04
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 13 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]403165[/snapback]
Can't really argue with the paragraphs relating to JM, but in reality thats life. People lose their jobs everyday and they sink or swim. Sales folk dont meet targets and get punted if they aint performing. Im JM's case he is well thought on in the coaching community so i dont think he'll be signing on to long.

Dougie wears his heart on his sleeve like a lot of the supporters on here. He's said his bit and we've said ours. Thats what makes life exciting, all the different opinions.

But he needs to realise we the paying punters are as important to our club as he is to it. We've all been in this picture before, many times. Things will settle when the new guy comes onboard, as long as its no Duffy!

Candidate for amusing quote of the year.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 23:30:23
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 13 2008, 10:46 PM) [snapback]403222[/snapback]
Frankly nach0, I'd be absolutely astounded if even one single person stayed away because of what he said.

I think anyone who has claimed that they would will have calmed down by now and realised they were just being a tit.

I just can't imagine an grown adult being so sensitive.

Especially one in his late seventies with a position to uphold.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 23:38:24
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 13 2008, 11:15 PM) [snapback]403251[/snapback]
you can't really believe that, surely?

aren't you a psycho or something? or read a book about it perhaps?

Trumpet-despite everything I've learned, I still never cease to be amazed at human gullibility.

Having said that, when I started to criticise Rae, only about 5% of posters agreed wiith me, so I guess there may be hope!
mortonjag 2008-02-13 23:40:08
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 13 2008, 11:32 PM) [snapback]403265[/snapback]
why, is one them deid then, mr pot? biggrin.gif

Are you drunk,or just tired Mr Kettle-perhaps both! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-13 23:43:49
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 13 2008, 10:43 PM) [snapback]403218[/snapback]
I thought there was a defib at Cappielow, no? That the club doctor carried it with him?

According to the last report from the First Aiders Rae has steadfastly refused to purchase a defib despite recommendations from the SFA.

The 'club doctor' is effectively just a GP enjoying the junketry of a match day. I recall quite clearly when Alex Walker was injured recently he ambled on with his little bag-no evidence of a defib there.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 23:45:27
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 13 2008, 11:43 PM) [snapback]403270[/snapback]
I haven't been at any matches this season, and I'm absolutely sure you have 'suffered' (subjectively of course, I'm sure there are millions of people living in 3rd world shanty towns who would consider your suffering to be rather insignificant, but I digress).

That was a terrible analogy, BTW.

In what respect was it a terrible analogy-you're not usually so brief-care to expand?
mortonjag 2008-02-13 23:46:57
QUOTE(leyTON @ Feb 13 2008, 10:35 PM) [snapback]403198[/snapback]
i was going to read that story in the tele
but then i realised there was a duncan mcniel connection so i didnt

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mortonjag 2008-02-13 23:49:00
QUOTE(standman @ Feb 13 2008, 11:23 PM) [snapback]403256[/snapback]
Knock Knock

Who's there ?

Too witta

Too witta who ?

I didn't know you were an owl !!

Knock knock


Who's there?



Lydia



Lydia who



Lydia Kettle
mortonjag 2008-02-13 23:53:24
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 13 2008, 11:46 PM) [snapback]403274[/snapback]
Since 2001 perhaps? But then that was a break and a half.

Won't you come into my parlour said the spider to the fly!
mortonjag 2008-02-13 23:55:07
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 13 2008, 11:50 PM) [snapback]403278[/snapback]
first logic, now gullibility, cassandra.

BTW - is your partner on nights
?

Take it yours is.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 23:58:21
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 13 2008, 11:50 PM) [snapback]403279[/snapback]
It's just that comparing a football manager to a surgeon is just, well, daft really.

You wanted Jim to go, he's gone.

You want Dougie to go, well he's no spring chicken now is he, so you shouldn't have to wait too long I shouldn't think before he either croaks it or hands over the reins to someone else. Let's all hope when you get your wish we get someone better, eh.

I believe the analogy holds good, and you have not explained why it's 'daft'.

I assume from your other sentence that you want to retain the status quo.

mortonjag 2008-02-13 23:59:47
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 13 2008, 11:54 PM) [snapback]403286[/snapback]
that's some chat-up line wub.gif

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mortonjag 2008-02-14 00:16:57
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 14 2008, 12:03 AM) [snapback]403295[/snapback]
FOR SALE

One golden straw, slightly soiled. Several owners since new.

Apply within.

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mortonjag 2008-02-14 00:20:08
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 14 2008, 12:05 AM) [snapback]403296[/snapback]
It's 1am here so my explanation as to why your analogy is daft will have to wait till another day.
In the absence of a credible alternative, yes.

If however you know of a philanthropic Morton supporting millionaire who'd be willing to do a better job, please tell him to come forward and make Dougie an offer.

Ha ha-'I'm no playin'-off to beddy baws then. God bless.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 00:22:02
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 14 2008, 12:11 AM) [snapback]403298[/snapback]
It's 1:10am here, I don't know what I mean any more.

Night all.

Mon the Ton
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Will somene tell the poor c*nt it's only Thursday!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 00:29:49
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Feb 14 2008, 12:19 AM) [snapback]403303[/snapback]
Again, if you look at the last couple of summers, we were told that there would be no transfer news due to Dougue being abroad, so why should this time be any different?
Not having a manager in place by Saturday is a waste of a game as pointed out by the Tele and it seems certain that that is what will be the case, and to run the risk of wasting a second game is just lunacy. We're not even going to get the benefit of the manager leaves, players prove a point thing with part of the old regime still being in charge.

I'm not nearly so pessimistic EM. I know Saturday ended in tears, but we didn't play as badly as we have been doing in the league, and I believe we have a motivator in Jenkins.

Martin Clark always seems to have stuck to the training and coaching side of things. I don't think his presence will necessarily have a detrimental effect.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 00:33:02
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Feb 14 2008, 12:28 AM) [snapback]403307[/snapback]
Anyone with a bit of common sense could frankly make positive adjustments to the running of the club - one such example being that you get your strips out BEFORE people go on holiday, and as soon as possible after, or even before the last match of a title-winning season.
Such things all make a difference, yet they are so obvious to anyone who isn't Douglas Rae.

I can't see the big problem. Surely a combo of Crawford Rae and Alastair Donald wouldn't be worse than Daddy Rae!

I'm not suggesting that's the ideal-it could go pear shaped, but with Shoogly at the helm, we're going nowhere fast.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 00:36:00
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Feb 13 2008, 11:56 PM) [snapback]403289[/snapback]
i was going to read that story on here
but then i realised it was posted by mj so i didnt

I fully understand Greacen.

You've never been able to get up to my intellectual level...


...but you ARE good at wee poems! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-14 00:37:34
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Feb 13 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]403011[/snapback]
Lookin to head to a comedy club in Glasgow on Friday night, anybody have any suggestions??

Ibrox?
mortonjag 2008-02-14 00:40:07
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 13 2008, 11:53 PM) [snapback]403284[/snapback]
That joke was 'Owling' tongue.gif

I thought it was a hoot-anyway too late to have a barny about it.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 00:51:43
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Feb 14 2008, 12:37 AM) [snapback]403312[/snapback]
If someone can actually tell us what exactly Mr Donald's role at Cappielow is I might agree, but frankly no-one seems to know. Apparently he's to be in a role that consists mainly of "over-view", but god (no, Douglas, not you...) knows what that really means. We'd be as well suggesting Richard Branson takes over for all we know about this guys involvement.
And a correction - with Dougie at the helm, we're going nowhere.

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I'll always think of him affectionately as Shoogly. If Alastair Donald had just been co-opted to the board as a 'name', for publicity purposes I'd have at least expected the name to be used-if you follow me.

When interviewed, he said, significantly 'I won't be investing AT THIS STAGE'.

He has purportedly been friendly with the Raes for many years but is much much nearer Crawford's age than Douglas'.

It's well known that Donald is a Rangers man at heart with a Ton allegiance, and Crawford is the exact opposite, so they might very well complement each other.

Purely surmise, but with a personal fortune of 60 or 70 million, he is a Rae ray of light perhaps.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 00:54:30
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 14 2008, 12:49 AM) [snapback]403319[/snapback]
You not away to your scratcher yet?

You're usually up in about 3 hrs. tongue.gif

True, but I can nap during the day if required!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 07:00:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2008, 12:58 AM) [snapback]403324[/snapback]
What's well known and what's purely surmise?

The subject of the sentence Mr Edwards-did they not teach you grammar at skool?
mortonjag 2008-02-14 07:11:30
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2008, 01:23 AM) [snapback]403328[/snapback]
You were doing quite well until the last. This club would not have survived until now unless it had a strong community base. Hospitaliity facilities are hired out to businesses for conference / publicity purposes (the riverclyde homes launch being a recent example). Encourage the fans to make a noise you say, well do you want Dougie to come out with a microphone and do his 'are you up for it' routine again? Bring a friend you say, hasn't Dougie been asking that 'ad nauseum'? Nope, I reckon the only way to increase support is by playing attractive, entertaining and, most important of all, winning football. Nothing complicated about it, success on the park is everything, it's that simple. Trouble is, any damn fool can be complicated, but it takes a genius to be simple.
Who and where is the genius?

I don't entirely agree with either of you, and mostly agree with both. 'Success on the park' is inextricably moderated by other factors as Mr Mileson will sadly tell you-in fact Gretna is a great example of active attention to the commercial side which failed to compensate for a negligible fanbase.

It might even be argued that an Andy Ritchie would bring in over the season more dosh, despite a mid league finish, than the type of 'success' we endured last season.

I think EM's right about the marketing-it's a Steptoe and Son affair, and there's NO excuse.

The Shoogly Show always stinks of niggardly tight fistedness-penny wise and pound foolish.

We have considerable potential, and, Mr Edwards, I propose that we only require someone with a modicum of foresight to turn matters around-foresight and half a brain.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 07:20:32
QUOTE(Toby @ Feb 14 2008, 02:07 AM) [snapback]403334[/snapback]
Well if that was the case he should have held his hand up, taken the responsibility and financial hit and sacked McInally.

Most of the boo boys would admit that there's been things that they've done that haven't been very becoming of them, Jim has now also belatedly taken responsibility for his failings and only ONE MAN in this whole sorry affair has totally wiped his hands of any blame and that is Douglas Rae.

Just like when things went wrong on the park we called for McInally to take responsibility, now that it's clear things have gone wrong with the appointment of Jim in the first place Rae is nowhere to be seen.

His attitude has been juvinille, cowardly and pathetic.

Juvenile- 'honest Sir' it wasn't me'-it was them!

Cowardly-refused interviews with local press whom he uses when it suits him, and f*cked off for a week.

Pathetc-totally unbecoming for a man of his apparent standing and position of authority.

Toby, I'd go even further and describe his behaviour as irrational. I believe the old bod's losing his marbles.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 07:31:10 I think Douglas Rae started well, but seven years down the line we've hit a low. Hopefully the signing of a new manager will ease the pain a little, but to me at least, it's eminently clear that Mr Rae's behaviour of late has left unanswered questions.

I'm not attacking the Chairman on this occasion-my views are well known-and I'm hoping that posters will treat the poll seriously.

I'm just curious to know what percentage are GENUINELY happy with the status quo at Cappielow.


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That was NOT deliberate-BRYAN -HELP!!!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 07:38:15 Four sunny days out of the next five forecast folks-bikinis oot-pubs hose down the beer gardens-sun is shining-weather is bright-enjoy it while you can!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 08:38:21 I think Douglas Rae started well, but seven years down the line we've hit a low. Hopefully the signing of a new manager will ease the pain a little, but to me at least, it's eminently clear that Mr Rae's behaviour of late has left unanswered questions.

I'm not attacking the Chairman on this occasion-my views are well known-and I'm hoping that posters will treat the poll seriously.

I'm just curious to know what percentage are GENUINELY happy with the status quo at Cappielow


Oh F*ck those poles-I'll do this sometime later-the dog needs out.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 08:40:42
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 14 2008, 08:37 AM) [snapback]403354[/snapback]
yes im happy with douglas rae as chairman. now f*** off.

No-YOU F*CK OFF, and also stop telling lies. It doesn't become you!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 08:45:03
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 14 2008, 08:04 AM) [snapback]403348[/snapback]
well i do hope prospective candidates do their homework and read this board from cover to cover so they know what they are letting themselves in for tongue.gif

None so blind Trumpet-I don't think any candidate will be unaware of Rae's reputation, but some folk never listen!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 08:47:03
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2008, 08:44 AM) [snapback]403357[/snapback]
laugh.gif A fine example of concision and clarity, wouldn't you agree Mentaljag?

Indeed and an even finer example of idiocy Mr Edwards!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 08:49:25
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2008, 08:12 AM) [snapback]403350[/snapback]
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Yes. And I'm sure you understand irony, even though perhaps you don't always recognise it. I'd contend that your comments regarding Messrs Rae and Donald consist entirely of surmise. Oft repeated surmise maybe, but surmise nonetheless.

Contend you may, and you MAY be correct in your contention.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 08:50:57
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2008, 08:22 AM) [snapback]403351[/snapback]
Ah Ha! Are these extracts from your CV? Recently forwarded to Dougie? biggrin.gif

You are half correct-it's an open secret that the monkey has applied!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 08:58:16
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 14 2008, 08:10 AM) [snapback]403349[/snapback]
OK MJ it's another day, so as promised here's my explanation as to why your analogy was stupid.

Comapring a football manager to a surgeon and a football chairman to a head consultant is stupid because, well, football and medicine are completely different professions where the consequences of failure and incompetence and somewhat different. Personally I'd say losing a life through someone's incompetence is significantly more tragic and important that losing 3 points in a football match. Jim was arguably a poor football manager and Dougie is arguably a poor football chairman, but nobody is dead as a result of Jim making a bad substitution or Dougie signing a sub-standard player.

So therefore, in my opinion, your analogy was stupid and therefore failed to contribute anything substantial to the debate.

Actually, that was pretty simple really, I probably could have said that last night after all. tongue.gif




Greek philosophers such as Plato and Aristotle actually used a wider notion of analogy. They saw analogy as a shared abstraction (Shelley 2003). Analogous objects did not share necessarily a relation, but also an idea, a pattern, a regularity, an attribute, an effect or a function. These authors also accepted that comparisons, metaphors and "images" (allegories) could be used as valid arguments, and sometimes they called them analogies.

I await your usual convoluted response!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 09:02:05
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 14 2008, 08:49 AM) [snapback]403361[/snapback]
Aye, I'm happy with Mr Rae.

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AND Bawheid-oh dear wink.gif Shortbread Shins!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 09:15:26
QUOTE(irnbru @ Feb 14 2008, 09:10 AM) [snapback]403369[/snapback]
Your point is that a supporter can't pick the next manager?

He's saying that the club should have made efforts to appoint a boss - just because he himself doesn't know who is available/ interested doesnt mean that the club dont!

Correct Irn Bru-it's unbecoming of Mr Edwards to respond to a valid criticism with 'f*ckin' sort it well'!
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mortonjag 2008-02-14 09:17:23
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 14 2008, 09:14 AM) [snapback]403370[/snapback]
Racist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Poles, polls, or poles Puggs-I'm sure it's a popular expression or is that f*ck the polis?
mortonjag 2008-02-14 09:21:35
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 14 2008, 09:16 AM) [snapback]403373[/snapback]
Plato and Aristotle were obviously talking s***e.

There you go, that wasn't convoluted at all. tongue.gif

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That's the first post of yours I've fully understood for about a week! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-14 09:23:18
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Feb 14 2008, 09:20 AM) [snapback]403377[/snapback]
There have been ups and downs with Rae - but plenty more ups IMO. Yes there are also concerns over his style but just two words dispel any worries over his handling of the club - H... S...

At the end of the day Rae is a Morton fan just like us and I have no doubt that the club is perfectly safe in his hands.

Just because he's a Morton fan? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-14 09:24:27
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 14 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]403372[/snapback]
Walked the cut yesterday, was beautiful!

Not so much today

It's taking its time-maybe appear late morning.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 09:38:40
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 14 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]403383[/snapback]
It's extremely cloudy here compared to yesterday.

I hope it clears, got my exam results in and done well so decided to have a good weekend and ignore the dissertation so want to go out a walk.

Same here and milder too. The BBC weather centre has been correct for the last three days, and forecasts sun for today and tomorrow.

Maybe getting it right four days in a row is too much to expect!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 09:43:06
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2008, 09:29 AM) [snapback]403381[/snapback]
laugh.gif I beg your pardon.

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DE, seriously now.

I get a wee bit pissed off with that regular response.

You don't have to be a mechanic to know when your car's broken down, nor do you have the knowledge to fix it.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 09:45:34
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 14 2008, 09:33 AM) [snapback]403384[/snapback]
DISCRIMINATOR!!!!!!

Fu*k the polish then-I hate ostentation.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 09:47:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2008, 09:45 AM) [snapback]403390[/snapback]
Is he not just playing right wing for Bromley?

Think he's the 'hatchet man'.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 09:50:29
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 14 2008, 09:46 AM) [snapback]403391[/snapback]
the guy owns a business, a business that makes him a profit that he's able to put into morton (which doesnt make him a profit).

his business trip was probably planned weeks ago and i doubt he was expecting to be looking for a new manager this week. you cant just go about cancelling business trips for the company that owns us because we dont have a manager.

Very true PT, but you've got to admit that it also coincided with an unprecedented reluctance to talk to his friendly local newspaper. I'd prefer to believe that Rae has actually acknowledged the need to lie low for a wee while. That's a step forward surely!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 09:52:47
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 14 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]403394[/snapback]
no one could stop me going to morton games. i dont go to games thinking " i wonder what the chairman thinks of me? ".

i go to watch a game of football played by the team ive grown up loving, nothing anyone has to say about me is ever going to change that.

That's why most 'die hard' fans go, but for me it's been more out of a sense of loyalty and duty lately.

I'd much prefer to get some pleasure out of it.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 09:53:48
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2008, 09:51 AM) [snapback]403396[/snapback]
First you suggest a surgeon, then a monkey and now it's a mechanic. Make your mind up man, who do you want to run Morton? laugh.gif

Hal Stewart's skeleton.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 09:55:11
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 14 2008, 09:49 AM) [snapback]403393[/snapback]
Is it because they are coming over here stealing jobs?

That's not nice! sad.gif

No-you misunderstand-not Polish-polish.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 10:15:34
QUOTE(jag-ton @ Feb 14 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]403403[/snapback]
Greetings human Morton Fans!

I am Jag-Ton. I am a new robot Morton fan, designed with the very latest form of artificial intelligence encased in my metal skull. For the last few years, scientists have been secretly creating me in a lab in an abandoned ship-building site on the Clyde. Now I am ready. And I’d like to introduce myself.

What makes me unique is that, unlike other forms of AI, I am programmed to only occasionally adhere to logic and reasoning. That’s what makes me more like your average, human, Ton fan. I also have the ability to completely by-pass my logic circuits in certain circumstances when I deem necessary. This is my secret weapon. I will use it liberally. Some have called it artificial UNintelligence, but I don’t like this. It hurts my feeling-circuits.

Hopefully, my existence will bring peace, harmony and prosperity to Morton Football Club. How I will do this is by first creating as much disharmony as is (in)humanly possible. Please don’t try to understand how this will work…..your brain is far too small and it will explode if you even attempt to work out my strategy.

I will dedicate my every moment to the task at hand. Harmony can only be created from disharmony. Order can only come from chaos. I will provide the chaos. Disharmony is my ally. I do this for you - human Morton fans. You can thank me when we win the Super-European Champions of the Universe League with Jose Ferguson (the first manager grown from stem-cells) at the helm.

That is in the future, however. My quest must start simply. I will endeavour to make sure every sorry rotten scoundrel who is conspiring against Morton achieving its true destiny is hunted down and placed on spikes in the Cowshed. Don’t worry, every fan will get a chance to burn someone. No one will be left out! There will be enough to go round. Goodness knows, there’s plenty who need burning!

Anyway, that’s enough for me for now. I need daily oiling, you see. You’ll be hearing quite a lot from me. I suspect it’ll take approximately 15,000 posts to even begin to create the instability that is required for the next part of my plan.

Peace, love and rusty-bolts.

Jag-Ton the Robot Ton Fan.

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Aye very good-stop blowing that trumpet!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 10:19:52
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 14 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]403402[/snapback]
how could he have got us to the SPL? we cant jump two leagues at once. so now he's only going to be a good chairman if he gets us to the SPL? some fans on here have real dillusions of grandeur.

he did what we all wanted, he let the manager we all wanted rid of go.

if you want to have a go at him about our lack of youth system, managerial appointments, players signed etc then go right ahead, but you cant have a go at him for what he said in his statement or that we're not in the SPL. no one wants us in the SPL more than Douglas Rae trust me.

He took over seven years ago and has never stated anything other than that he wanted us in the SPL.

That was his ambition, and it has not come to fruition PT.

You might say in his defence that he was the one with delusions of grandeur, but I believe it could and should have been achieved by now.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 10:21:34
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2008, 10:01 AM) [snapback]403406[/snapback]
Maybe you should write to 'just Joan' for some advice. laugh.gif

No point in writing to myself!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 10:23:02
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 14 2008, 10:14 AM) [snapback]403412[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

try to keep it real! blink.gif

We have to get back to the bare bones OTP!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 10:25:29
QUOTE(jag-ton @ Feb 14 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]403428[/snapback]
I have spectral-analysed the grass at Cappielow with my robot eyes and the results show that it is the wrong type of green.

My question is - are you happy with the colour of the grass at Cappielow? Or should we sack the groundsman?

You have just been infected with a virus for which there is no known cure, and the man's about to cut off the lecky.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 10:29:12
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Feb 14 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]403408[/snapback]
Jeezo - if they, and by they I mean those who were trying to organise the doon the watter event, cannot organise a pishy concert with the HOTHOUSE FLOWERS headlining, how on earth are they going to get STATUS QUO to play. I for one, and Standman for 2, would be more than happy with the QUO at Cappielow... wink.gif rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

Donkeys don't appreciate 'Rock' tailbearer, though they are very faithful to their masters.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 10:32:45
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2008, 10:20 AM) [snapback]403421[/snapback]
From the stand? I'm shocked, I thought you were all gentlefolk.

Not at all-I've regularly heard cries of 'Away with you Mcinally you wee rascal'.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 10:35:30
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Feb 14 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]403432[/snapback]
It is every chairman in the Scottish league's ambition to get to the SPL. Just because it has not been achieved yet does not make Mr Rae a failure.

That is substantially inaccurate-dream perhaps-not ambition.

Some Chairmen are quite realistic.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 10:36:48
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Feb 14 2008, 10:29 AM) [snapback]403434[/snapback]
I would say that the current groundsman is the best signing Morton have pulled off in years wink.gif

Mr Farrell is an excellent groundsman.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 10:48:18
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]403430[/snapback]
Dougie could kick off his team talk with 'Alas poor Hal'.

Skull in one hand, microphone in the other.

Friends, morons, and cowshedmen-I come to....

crackle crackle


Erm...Alas poor Macca-I knew him---well I thought I....


pause, pulling out a wee bit of paper...

This is the skull of Hal Stewart-a man who sold cigarettes - not sweeties-Rocky Mount if I recall-an inspirational man, who like me brought Morton Football Club out of the doldrums...

Damn it...they're very quiet...


Are you up for it?
mortonjag 2008-02-14 10:50:30
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]403442[/snapback]
That's what you call yours then eh? I'll say again, write to the agony aunt. laugh.gif

I am the agony aunt DE.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 10:52:35
QUOTE(jag-ton @ Feb 14 2008, 10:38 AM) [snapback]403441[/snapback]
I have asked Stewart Greacen whether he thought a move to the liberal left after the US elections would give global terrorism a more stable foothold in the west. He said he didn't know. Should this man continue as captain of Morton Football Club?

3 down 14,997 to go.

Short circuiting already raw bot-you won't last a week.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 10:55:07
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 14 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]403450[/snapback]
Man Utd have been trying to win the champions league desperately for almost a decade, after which ferguson would probably retire. it doesnt make him a failure as a manager if he doesnt win it again.

there are 11 bigger teams than us in the SPL, 7 or 8 teams bigger or just as big as us in the first division, a couple just as big as us in the 2nd division.

all these teams think are fighting for a place in the 12 man SPL, its perfectly plausable that we could get there, but it doesnt make Rae a failure because he hasnt.

i personally think Rae has been a failure, but not for that reason.

This has been debated repeatedly PT. We are potentially as big as every SPL club outside the cities.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 10:56:38
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 14 2008, 10:54 AM) [snapback]403453[/snapback]
okay ladies and gentleman its time to play ' Guess the Alias ' with me bruce forsyth.

NICE TO SEE YOU TO SEE YOU.......

I think it's my dear friend Trumpet-perhaps he will confirm or deny!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 10:58:43
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Feb 14 2008, 10:56 AM) [snapback]403455[/snapback]
And your point is?

Whose point-if you mean mine, I'm surprised you can't work it out.

I believe Mr Rae could, and should have been able to achieve SPL status in seven years.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 11:02:29
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2008, 11:00 AM) [snapback]403458[/snapback]
Now you're just being daft. Only the Co op sold Rocky Mount.

....and Hal was one of the Coop's most successful purveyors of Rocky Mount Mr Edwards-I kid you not.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 11:08:18
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Feb 14 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]403460[/snapback]
I dreamt we would be in the SPL by now. We are in the 1st which is a step in the right direction from 7years ago.

I guess I'm just realistic!

I reckon I'm realistic too. I just find it sad that Douglas Rae had a certain amount of money apparently available for Morton-that money, I sincerely believe, is no longer freely available to the club.

I believe that, had the sum already squandered been used more providently, we COULD currently be a profitable SPL club.

No doubt one of our shooglyphile money men will produce figures in an attempt to disprove me.

In fact I'd say that's a certainty! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-14 11:11:36
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 14 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]403464[/snapback]
your poll is fatally flawed and you can't see it!
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laugh.gif laugh.gif

What a pathetic wee man you are.

Did it take you all night to think that up bright spark?

I'm not the only poster who commented on the lack of a third option.

Your poll, like yourself, is keech.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 11:13:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2008, 11:10 AM) [snapback]403466[/snapback]
Attention all shooglyphile bean counters! Mentaljag awaits.

TY, DE-nothing like reinforcement!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 11:14:38
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2008, 11:05 AM) [snapback]403462[/snapback]
Now I remember. Hal would give you divi on every sesaon ticket sold. laugh.gif

laugh.gif

and would have sold his Granny for two bob.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 11:21:47
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 14 2008, 11:16 AM) [snapback]403470[/snapback]
Your poll, like yourself, is keech.

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laugh.gif

My God, could you actually be any more immature.

Of course I could-I always try to keep my replies on a level the original poster can understand.

I can also be quite mature when it suits me-I'm not the sort of chap who, like you, REALLY believes Millions is a 'household name', hangs up his stocking at Christmas, and prays to the Tooth Fairy..

Your poll, good Sir is a joke-if you don't think that, it confirms what I've already said.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 11:36:32
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Feb 14 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]403471[/snapback]
I agree 100% and I am just as frustrated with our predicament, however I am yet to meet anyone with a BA honours in hindsight. I am not belittling you here, but no one could predict Templeman etc would be failures and Gretna would steamroll up the leagues at our expense.

We were very unfortunate with the Gretna situation. I took great pains to point out on the forum that Mileson was 'cheating' us by buying his way up the leagues, and predicted his ultimate demise. That was greeted with the same mindless abuse which I subsequently endured as one of the early JM doubters.

The Chairman has made several blunders which cannot, however, be blamed on Gretna, and despite the incredible level of loyalty he still retains, the handling of JM's departure was a fiasco, and probably an embarrassment to his co-directors.

I have wondered for some time about his state of mind-his programme notes hardly bespeak an intelligent and rational man who strives to keep the ship 'on course, and we've had blunder after blunder with season tickets, strips, lack of expected signings with last minute 'sweeteners', and a history of absolutely shocking PR.

Some may well be praying that he would just 'disappear'. I don't want that. I believe he deserves several years as Honorary President. I don't even see him as a 'bad' guy. Everybody has good points. Even Hitler liked dogs.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 12:01:50 Dundee will be on a 'high' after beating Motherwell, and this is a 'must win' if they are to stay anywhere near the Lanarkshire cry babies.

We have a poor record against them this season, and I'm sure they'll think we're 'easy meat'.

Football's a funny game though. I do believe our boys will have a feeling of a fresh start after recent events, and we're not the total duffers that our league position suggests. I fully expect a point out of this one, while the Monkey confidently predicts a 1-0 victory---for us!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 12:11:19
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 14 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]403486[/snapback]
Oh dear it seems you really can be. blink.gif

You've surpassed yourself there. Well done.

Thank you-you are so kind.

I must have been mistaken-I was sure we had a long running argument about 'Millions', and the size of Shoogly's empire, after which you maturely pushed the little huff button, or was that after I legitimately mentioned your father in the context of the Stan Webster saga.

I really can't understand why I upset you so much-I have no personal issue with you so far as I know. Why are you so cruel? In reality I'm a very pleasant and extremely popular person.

Moreover, I'd have thought that gophers like yourself would be proud to have on the forum a gentleman of such high repute and education.

The ungratefulness of some people is puzzling in the extreme.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 12:17:12
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 14 2008, 12:03 PM) [snapback]403490[/snapback]
potential cant compete with tangeable solidarity. we may have potential to be as big as them but we're not. they are in the SPL and we arent because they realised their potential while we are still in the proccess of attempting to reach ours. the way Dougie has gone about this has been far from perfect but he wants us in the SPL as much as anyone.

we've made many mistakes along the way but unless you have gretna money you cant buy your way through the leagues, i mean look at us.....it took us years to get out of the 2nd division and we still werent ready for it.

i believe one day we'll get to the SPL with or without Dougie, we were never going to be ready for it this early after coming back from literally nothing, it was a pipe dream by anyone, including dougie who thought we would.

Have you actually thought that through? I'm a wee bit tired of hearing 'we weren't ready for it'

Is it not just conceivable that with a different Board and manager but the same initial assets we could have progressed to the SPL over seven years and now be profitable. I'm not saying it is, but I would like to hear a detailed breakdown of 'why we were not ready'.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 12:20:08 F*CK the BBC Weather Centre. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-14 12:37:25
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 14 2008, 12:30 PM) [snapback]403506[/snapback]
its also concievable that any other club in the SPL could get relegated and be stuck in the first division for years, thats football.

by having to start from scratch and to get to the SPL it would mean we'd have to -

buy players that were good enough to win the 3rd division
buy players that were good enough to win the 2nd division
buy players that were good enough to win the 1st division
fix the cowshed from it being closed
fix the floodlights to play in the 1st division
Rebuild the whole stadium to comply with SPL rules

and lots lots more.

thats almost impossible to do in 7 years just considering the money, nevermind the practicality of it all being achievable in that space of time.

we're now into our third division which averages out at almost 2 years in each division which is acceptable, if we stay up this year then i think we're well on the way to progress and achieving our potential.

I agree that re-building would require a big investment. I think that Mr Rae simply bit off more than he could chew, but prudent stewardship could have dealt with all of those other problems, and at least seen us now as an established 1st Division side-perhaps having to wait for someone with real money before moving on.

I'm just praying that Mr Donald may prove to be that man.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 12:54:01
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Feb 14 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]403517[/snapback]
Another topic from MortonJag = Another rant about Mr Rae.

Mate we all know you don't like the guy, you rant about our chairman almost every few posts.

Give it a rest ya f***ing creep.

The last bastion of the intellectually deprived! laugh.gif

If you had the wit to read, You'd see it was far from a rant about the chairman.

What do you think, or are your opinions confined to believing that all who seem better endowed than you are f*cking creeps?
mortonjag 2008-02-14 12:57:34
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 11 2008, 10:10 PM) [snapback]401502[/snapback]
Well Said Douglas Rae

While Im glad to see JM gone the abuse the players have had to put up with from 90 minutte hard men is disgusting.

Why don't you name and shame those aggressive dwarves?
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:04:45
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 14 2008, 12:57 PM) [snapback]403523[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif
You really are the most ridiculous little man I have ever encountered. You should stop, take a look at your 14,000 posts and think for a moment - is this what my life has become.
Now stop bothering me you silly old fool. Is it not about time you started another thread about what a bad man Douglas Rae is so you can name call and insult those of us with the audacity to disagree with you.
Don’t bother replying to this as, unlike you, I’m busy for the rest of the day but you’re welcome to leave me a PM so I can laugh at you later.

You have never met me son, and you haven't a clue what I'll be doing for the rest of the day.

I was extremely busy when in my worthwhile occupation, and am entitled to spend my retirement doing just as I please.

I can well understand your resentment of someone who has clearly achieved vastly more than you can even aspire to.

Just a word of advice from an old professional, knock that fish supper off your shoulder-it doesn't smell wub.gif pleasant!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:06:36
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Feb 14 2008, 01:00 PM) [snapback]403525[/snapback]
Are you suggesting that they don't exist ?

I don't know any of 'em by name, but I sure as hell hear them.

Aye but how do you know how many and what size they are?
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:07:51
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Feb 14 2008, 01:05 PM) [snapback]403529[/snapback]
Hahaha oh indeed i do in some case's but with you it's all the time as you come across as a borring old man with nothing better to do than go on about Mr Rae.

It's annoying and pathetic.

I think from now on i'll just not read your topics, a wise move i feel.

wink.gif

That makes very good sense.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:12:43
QUOTE(Jim @ Feb 14 2008, 01:05 PM) [snapback]403530[/snapback]
Ok Jagordamius,What do u predict will happen in regaurds of the Rae's family involvment at cappielow?,Who will our new manager be? and will we stay up this year?,Where will Morton be in 5-10 years time and what are this weeks lotto numbers?

Don't be naive Jimbo-for that kind of information I require remuneration.

In truth, through my sources, I can confidently answer the first three questions, but confidentiality prevents that.

Morton may be in the SPL in 5-10 years time-I'm reasonably confident they will.

This weeks lotto numbers are the stumbling block-I don't always get them correct two weeks in a row.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:14:35
QUOTE(Waverley @ Feb 14 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]403536[/snapback]
If I recall correctly, when Hal was the manager, the club was owned, I think, by a man called Peter Taylor, who was a top executive at the Co-op.

That's right, and I think Hal was an area sales exec for Rocky Mount cigarettes.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:16:01
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 14 2008, 01:13 PM) [snapback]403538[/snapback]
We were 4-0 against the sons and someone shouted "this is f**kin shockin McInally" blink.gif

rolleyes.gif

A sane and sober somebody?
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:18:13
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Feb 14 2008, 01:15 PM) [snapback]403540[/snapback]
What ? huh.gif

The 90 minutte hard men!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:22:02
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Feb 14 2008, 01:18 PM) [snapback]403545[/snapback]
Yes, but you lost me at ..

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Dom dom - my old friend Real Hoops talked aboute '90 minutte hard men'.

I'm sure he meant 'minute' but that's neither here nor there.


90 of them, and each was minute!

Not exactly a force to be reckoned with!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:25:53
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 14 2008, 01:21 PM) [snapback]403546[/snapback]
I can well understand your resentment of someone who has clearly achieved vastly more than you can even aspire to.
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You obviously have some kind of self worth problem going on there so you just keep thinking (wishing) that and have a nice day wee man. wink.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

You're about as reliable as Shoogly.


'I won't be replying because I'm far too busy' you claimed.

You probably wouldn't know a proper job even if it was advertised in bold letters in one of your comics.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:29:51
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 14 2008, 01:25 PM) [snapback]403552[/snapback]
he may have thought our record wasnt good because of Mcinally but that didnt mean he wanted him to leave, he may have thought he could turn it around given a little bit more time.

Fans complain when their club dont listen to them but ours has by bringing in new players and letting our manager leave. they cant win, you'd be complaining if we didnt bring in new players and let the manager go when we asked and youre complaining that we did.

I think Rae did want JM to leave, and didn't want to pay compensation. Well that's what I'd have expected of an astute businessman.

On the other hand it may be that Mr Rae was desperate to keep the manager, but if you go down that road PT you DO have to question his sanity.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:32:48
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 14 2008, 01:25 PM) [snapback]403551[/snapback]

It’s just unfortunate that this coincided with Gillian [Chief Executive Gillian Donaldson] being on holiday and me being on a business trip.â€


That about sums up the organisation at Cappielow!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:33:45
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 14 2008, 01:18 PM) [snapback]403542[/snapback]
yes he posts on here tongue.gif

Hmm-that WAS a bit unfair I'd say!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:34:48
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Feb 14 2008, 01:29 PM) [snapback]403555[/snapback]
Maybe both of you could meet up, have a blether, then go for a walk holding hands

Not after what happened last time. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:36:07
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 14 2008, 01:07 PM) [snapback]403532[/snapback]
I was a bit bored at work this morning...

Physics was my favourite subject at school. I suppose you either love it or hate it.

Do you remember Maxwell's demon-can't remember whom he played for mind?
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:52:59
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 14 2008, 01:39 PM) [snapback]403563[/snapback]
How very clever of you to point out what is obviously not a spelling mistake but is clearly a typo. Have a gold star!
However, I'm sure you'll find that I talked about and not " talked aboute "

rolleyes.gif

You are not the grammatical expert you think you are. There are countless mistakes riddled throughout your 14,000 posts of self indulgent drivel. Some of us are not so petty to highlight them though. Although I must admit that I was very tempted when you recently displayed an embarrassing disregard for the difference between infer and imply.

Now get yourself back on topic. Douglas Rae,..what a bad man.!!

Don't tempt me you ignorant fool-I don't double and treble check my posts, as I would if I was producing a paper.

I wasn't even attempting to ridicule your 'typo'-of course we all make them-I just noticed the amusing way the sentence could have two entirely different meanings.

Having said that, I challenge you to prove that my posts are 'riddled with countless mistakes'

To put it quite simply you are one of the very few posters to who I happily say-you can't hold a candle to my achievements and qualifications.

That usually evokes anger and insult.

Please be sure to keep your spell checker on.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:55:33
QUOTE(big B @ Feb 14 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]403565[/snapback]
Why would we want Jose Quitongo as manager laugh.gif

Cos he's cheery-would make a change!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:57:51
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 14 2008, 01:39 PM) [snapback]403564[/snapback]
he wouldnt be the first chairman thats wanted to keep a terrible manager on, its a lot harder to see problems from the inside after all they dont say the first step to recovery is realising you have a problem for nothing. normally its the people around you that notice a long time before you do.

but if we're calling dougie rae insane then we'd have to call a lot more chairmen insane, although they may actually be considering they want to buy a football club in scotland.

Its not just this one issue PT-it's the catalogue of bizarre behaviour that's puzzling me.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:59:53
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 14 2008, 01:46 PM) [snapback]403570[/snapback]
Don’t bother replying to this as, unlike you, I’m busy for the rest of the day but you’re welcome to leave me a PM so I can laugh at you later.
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laugh.gif You just keep setting them up !

That doesnt say I wont reply. It says PLEASE DONT YOU REPLY.

So, wrong again. rolleyes.gif

Too busy to read but not too busy to write-very good Professor!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 14:00:58
QUOTE(Muz @ Feb 14 2008, 01:45 PM) [snapback]403569[/snapback]
Says in the Tele that he wouldnt be advertising for it!!

Penny pinching and lying too by the sound of it.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 14:03:53
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 14 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]403572[/snapback]
laugh.gif

Although maybe the Professor would as well, if you remember him.

My asinine friend has answered your question-most educated people are well acquainted with the term 'leet' in connection with job interviews.

By the way,I'm wondering if you are a male model. You manage to be 'very busy' and do a fair wee bit of posting at the same time.

Adonis with laptop.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 14:06:11
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2008, 01:58 PM) [snapback]403577[/snapback]
No doubt including one from Doctor Mentaljag aka the skeletal shakespearian surgeon aka the monkey mechanic. I'd love to read that one. Even better to be there at the interview. laugh.gif

There is a good chance the job will go to a monkey DE.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 14:12:22 Jeez-oh-normally by Thursday this type of thread is buzzing, but we're still all fighting like cat and dog over the bizarre utterances of our Chairman!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 14:16:08
QUOTE(Muz @ Feb 14 2008, 01:43 PM) [snapback]403566[/snapback]
Everything about the Hawke screams "legend" to me.

Says he's not ready at the moment, but some of the quotes he's gave just ooze class and quality.

"There is no doubt i'd be very flattered to be linked with this position. Whether on a Short Term or Long Term basis, the role would always be very appealing."

The position should never be taken lightly. The need for a manager who understands the club, the players and the fantastic support is paramount. I believe in this area I would be the best candidate"

He goes on to say

"To take on this prestigious role requires someone with extensive knowledge of all the divisions, and I feel that I am still a couple of years away from this. That, linked with my current business commitments means I wouldnt be able to give the managers role it deserves."

I think the guy is class- and will definetely be a manager here one day. Intelligent, good relations with the fans.

In other words- legend.

A wise man indeed-I bet he'd have jumped at the job if he didn't know so much about the aspects of the club he carefully omits.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 14:23:37
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 14 2008, 02:21 PM) [snapback]403591[/snapback]
he may just be getting old, time catches up on everyone. again im sure its a lot easier for people to say notice he's old but its a lot harder for someone to realise theyre getting too old to do the job they love.

i doubt Dougie will be here all that much longer. ( at morton i mean not dead. )

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Love it!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 14:45:19
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 14 2008, 02:37 PM) [snapback]403598[/snapback]
Nothing I could say about your self-importance and pomposity could ever say more than your own words above just have.

I'll always be happy in the knowledge that you know nothing about me.

Run along now fool.

I might just know a lot more about you than you think, and you shouldn't have to rack your tiny brain too hard too work out why.

Self importance and pomposity may not be desirable qualities, but when evinced by ignorant nobodies like yourself Mr C they become inexorably ludicrous-now why don't you run along, and stop wasting your employers time and money. There are surely more important types of entertainment for your attention. cool.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-14 14:52:05
QUOTE(Newsboy @ Feb 14 2008, 02:38 PM) [snapback]403599[/snapback]
My thoughts are that there'll be a lot less flak coming the way of you, and the likes of you, come Saturday night if we win or draw.

Given that your main beef was/is with Douglas Rae, who in your opinion is 'the puppet master' who picks the team, there is no logical reason, if your conspiracy theory is to be believed, why we should do any better without JM.

I never suggested that Rae 'picked' the team, but he clearly had a large influence on JM.

I AM disappointed that Rae will be back from his 'business trip' on Saturday.The last time we played well was at Palmerston when he was in Germany.

I still think, however, that the absence of the manager in the dugout will give the boys free rein, and I expect a good performance, masterminded by Smith and Jenkins.

Incidentally, I'd be obliged if you would explain what you mean by 'conspiracy theory'.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 15:01:56
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 14 2008, 02:53 PM) [snapback]403602[/snapback]
blink.gif What Question is that? I laughed with ThornTon and agreed that the use of leet was very "Dougie". Can you show me where I say that I don't know what "leet" means?

Are you wrong again little man? smile.gif Awww!! Looks like it.

Oh and you "wonder if I'm a male model"? Keep that sort of thought to yourself old man- you couldn't afford me. rolleyes.gif

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How much do you charge?
mortonjag 2008-02-14 15:04:22
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Feb 14 2008, 02:55 PM) [snapback]403604[/snapback]
Partly because somebody keeps creating thread after thread to discuss the Chairman.

I fully expect us to get beat but you never know. It's hard to see where the goals will come from and you've got to expect us to concede at least once.

....and presumably bribes everybody to participate!

Who started this thread?
mortonjag 2008-02-14 15:08:11
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 14 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]403615[/snapback]
You are way out of order there and you know it.

Aha-back to this old chestnut you clot-'way out of order about what'-please explain Mr H-it will surely be nice to make me face the music!

If you can't stand the heat your huff button is at your disposal, you haughty, over sensitive, and offensive little creep.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 17:26:55
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Feb 14 2008, 03:12 PM) [snapback]403620[/snapback]
I think of him looking a little like this

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I never wear blue hats!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 17:30:13
QUOTE(Torro @ Feb 14 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]403627[/snapback]
more like this to be honest

I truly find that offensive Torro-in fact in the inimitable words of somebody else that's bang out of order.


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mortonjag 2008-02-14 17:38:05
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 14 2008, 03:41 PM) [snapback]403634[/snapback]
That's 'appalling' by the way!! Why is it bad to advertise the appointment on the web? Where do you go to get information about Morton? The web is a great way to advertise jobs cheaply. Where do you want it? In quality journals like the Sun or the Daily Ranger?? Maybe the Sunday Times?

It's a good point Tonsilitis-I think what's odd, though, is that they claimed they 'were not advertising the position'.

Seems they know how to use GMFC.net when it suits them, but rarely for the benefit of the fans.

Incidentally, where have the CV's to be sent to in the second instance-the monkey spent days on that first one and it's driving him bananas.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 17:39:28
QUOTE(jpmil @ Feb 14 2008, 05:08 PM) [snapback]403678[/snapback]
I also would use that word!

As would I!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 17:51:00
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Feb 14 2008, 03:08 PM) [snapback]403618[/snapback]
The Norseman does it's job and I use it before most home games.

What's the worst drink anyone's ever had in there? I made the mistake once of buying the house whisky (which isn't there anymore) and it could have burnt the bars off a prison. I've drunk alot of cheap whisky in my life but this stuff was probably developed as a weapon in the Cold War. In an incredible twist of fate, about 4 or 5 weeks later, a visiting mate of mine bought me a house whisky again and it was just as rank which ruled out the possibility that the first one was simply a glass of turps that Maximillian had pissed in for a joke.

Nice epitaph Sir!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 17:56:42
QUOTE(Doc @ Feb 14 2008, 05:47 PM) [snapback]403698[/snapback]
It's pretty standard to list jobs on your own company website these days. Where I work, we can't even post a position somewhere else (monster etc) unless is has been on our own site for longer than 5 days.

Maybe this info can help Mortonjag find something to occupy his time better?? wink.gif ...averaging sixteen posts a day sounds unemployed to me, mate!! tongue.gif

I am unemployed Doc-it's quite amusing how so many people seem to think I sit all day at the computer-FFS I make tea, shower and shave once a week, say my prayers, and chat to the Monkey for hours about serious matters. This is just a little diversion-oh and I urinate very frequently-moustache! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-14 18:00:13
QUOTE(paddi @ Feb 14 2008, 05:14 PM) [snapback]403683[/snapback]
did everyone suddenly forget the the W*nker slated us publicly !!!!!!!!

i say no to ro !!!!!

give us jim duffy ... he's a people man and a good motivator ... thats really what we need at this time

i do think we have the talent but just not playing to our strengths...




Sure thing Jim Paddi! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-14 18:02:30
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Feb 14 2008, 12:36 PM) [snapback]403510[/snapback]
From your trade experience Scott what could he make on a busy match day ?

Obviously he has to make up for weekdays when it'll be inhabited by 2 tramps and a scabby dug.

...sitting writing the Ton programme draft.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 18:04:11
QUOTE(davidh1874 @ Feb 14 2008, 06:01 PM) [snapback]403706[/snapback]

He's an ex footballer?
mortonjag 2008-02-14 18:06:37
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 14 2008, 06:02 PM) [snapback]403708[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Absolute quality.

It has to be either LCM, CHC or DongaTon. Best laugh on this messageboard since Bawheid's Bicycle park around 2002/3 season.

A stoater.

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It hasn't spoken for a while-clearly not programmed properly for those 15.000 posts!


BTW when are you going to change your siggy? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-14 18:12:57 I think the phanos are slightly larger than McGeady's.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 18:14:28
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 14 2008, 06:09 PM) [snapback]403714[/snapback]
What makes you think i'll change it?

Another Duffy hater? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-14 18:18:57
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Feb 14 2008, 05:07 PM) [snapback]403677[/snapback]
But Marshall, dont you think it was a valid point about the fans at home? The abuse was over the top - sometimes our young team look scared to play at home. I appeaciate that it was not the best time to make such a comment, but I dont think it was far from the truth. The Chairman has also brought in a new board member - perhaps this appointment can help push the club forward?

But not scared to pick up their wages!

They did look a bit timorous in the 6-1 defeat by Livingston at Scapa, mind you.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 18:23:02
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 14 2008, 06:17 PM) [snapback]403719[/snapback]
Erm, no.

Jim Duffy is one orf our more sensible candidates considering half the board are salivating about Alan Moore and Flavour-of-the-Month teuchters like David Baikie.

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Surely the proof of the pudding's in the eating. I admire Jim Duffy-I believe he is a straight down the middle guy, and more importantly, I believe he would walk away, if he wasn't allowed to manage, but you are being a tad hard on the other two-particularly Moore, who has shown an unusual ability to get a lot from very little.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 18:39:43
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 14 2008, 06:32 PM) [snapback]403723[/snapback]
Moore - He proved he could outwit Jim McInally and done so to our expense a couple of times last season, but he is a long way from being the experienced manager that i would like to see at Cappielow.

Baikie - Maybe i'm a tad unfair to him, he may have proven that he is worthy for a big step up to a bigger club, but why does it have to be Morton? if it all goes terribly wrong its yet just another Angus mob thats cashed our cheque and laughed up their sleeves at us.

Are you sure about that bit?
mortonjag 2008-02-14 18:40:16
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Feb 14 2008, 06:31 PM) [snapback]403722[/snapback]
It is Mortonjag himself. Surely only his ego is large enough to maintain something like this! wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-02-14 18:42:41
QUOTE(CowshedBarmyArmy @ Feb 14 2008, 03:52 PM) [snapback]403637[/snapback]
Personally I think We Shoud, As I am a great fan of ultras. If so we need ones who are goin to be dedicated to singing week in week out. tongue.gif

Its Just a Topic to discuss as I think Morton Fans Are Loud Where We are together and willing to sing rolleyes.gif

some one who stands at the front of the cowshed with a Microphone and gets the crowd goin.
If this does happen then I can see teams been terrified of The atmosphere that morton fans can culger up when at full voice laugh.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZK0fGnxjCg .. Anno you Cant Understand it .. but its a great video smile.gif

We had enough trouble with Nike and Umbro IMO.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 18:45:29 I've just been told that George Bowie is a big Morton fan-I was ashamed to show my ignorance, but who the hell is George Bowie? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-14 18:49:31
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 14 2008, 06:44 PM) [snapback]403728[/snapback]
Ach, okay he's at East Fife this weather. Its the same difference to me, they marry their own cousins in those parts.
Since folk like spreading the dirt about Rowan Alexander and Jim Duffy, lets look at David Baikie.

'The assault followed a contractual dispute'


Nae chance of Shoogly appointing him then!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 18:53:07
QUOTE(princessTON @ Feb 14 2008, 06:47 PM) [snapback]403731[/snapback]
He is a Radio Clyde DJ. He is a Rangers fan, but is quite fond of Morton.

Thanks Princess-I've now challenged my source-she claims that although Bowie does his DJ thing at Ibrox he actually prefers the Ton-came from somebody who apparently knows him very well!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 18:56:18
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 14 2008, 06:52 PM) [snapback]403734[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDjeezo Puggs-my auntie Jessie's been posing again.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 18:59:08 Why is it so called?
mortonjag 2008-02-14 19:02:49
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 14 2008, 07:00 PM) [snapback]403741[/snapback]
that's a pile of s***e mate sad.gif

Warren was a great player in his early days with us, but in his last spell he didn't get much change out of defences.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 19:05:48
QUOTE(jag-ton @ Feb 14 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]403403[/snapback]
Greetings human Morton Fans!

I am Jag-Ton. I am a new robot Morton fan, designed with the very latest form of artificial intelligence encased in my metal skull. For the last few years, scientists have been secretly creating me in a lab in an abandoned ship-building site on the Clyde. Now I am ready. And I’d like to introduce myself.

What makes me unique is that, unlike other forms of AI, I am programmed to only occasionally adhere to logic and reasoning. That’s what makes me more like your average, human, Ton fan. I also have the ability to completely by-pass my logic circuits in certain circumstances when I deem necessary. This is my secret weapon. I will use it liberally. Some have called it artificial UNintelligence, but I don’t like this. It hurts my feeling-circuits.

Hopefully, my existence will bring peace, harmony and prosperity to Morton Football Club. How I will do this is by first creating as much disharmony as is (in)humanly possible. Please don’t try to understand how this will work…..your brain is far too small and it will explode if you even attempt to work out my strategy.

I will dedicate my every moment to the task at hand. Harmony can only be created from disharmony. Order can only come from chaos. I will provide the chaos. Disharmony is my ally. I do this for you - human Morton fans. You can thank me when we win the Super-European Champions of the Universe League with Jose Ferguson (the first manager grown from stem-cells) at the helm.

That is in the future, however. My quest must start simply. I will endeavour to make sure every sorry rotten scoundrel who is conspiring against Morton achieving its true destiny is hunted down and placed on spikes in the Cowshed. Don’t worry, every fan will get a chance to burn someone. No one will be left out! There will be enough to go round. Goodness knows, there’s plenty who need burning!

Anyway, that’s enough for me for now. I need daily oiling, you see. You’ll be hearing quite a lot from me. I suspect it’ll take approximately 15,000 posts to even begin to create the instability that is required for the next part of my plan.

Peace, love and rusty-bolts.

Jag-Ton the Robot Ton Fan.

Somebody run out of Three in One then? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-14 19:07:52
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 14 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]403744[/snapback]
the chairman's message is also informative, giving those who might be interested (fans?) details of process and timescale:

"a short leet will be drawn up on Friday of this week" etc

gosh, that's tomorrow unsure.gif

Five hours to go!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 19:13:01
QUOTE(kingtiffin @ Feb 14 2008, 07:09 PM) [snapback]403748[/snapback]
this is the same scenario but when the s*** is going to hit the fan they all bolt on holiday when mr raemanov scrapped the u/17s youth team last season they called all the boys and parents in to tell them thanks but cheerio
but were was dougie on holiday were was gillian on holiday so i laugh when i read it has not got any balls .
would love to hear jim mcinallys side of the story ie remeber chris millar scenario??????
this man spews out vomit as a hobby one down one to go mr raemanov see u times up..

Always thought he looked a bit anorexic.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 19:16:34
QUOTE(jag-ton @ Feb 14 2008, 07:13 PM) [snapback]403751[/snapback]
Jag-ton has been busy. In my quest to bring maximum chaos (and thus save Morton and turn the club into a global super-power) I have gone undercover.

In a move I learned from Moonraker, I formed a “special†relationship with one of the heart-monitors that was so widely used by Jim McInally and Martin Clark. Anticipating hard times ahead now her masters have departed, she quickly succumbed to Jag-Ton’s illogical charms.

After exchanging currents (she was AC/DC Jag-Ton was delighted to discover) she revealed that there is a conspiracy afoot. Yes! A conspiracy!

Apparently, DDFR is planning to give Barry Smith as many free Half-Pounders sweeties as the poor lad can eat at training every day. This will be sold as part of a new “back to basics†training regime that doesn’t involve any new-fangled technology.

Eventually, Smith’s belly will block the entire cowshed’s view of the dugout. That way, the whole Rae family can take happily take up their rightful place and continue their evil schemes.

Boo! They must be stopped!

I will continue to work for the best of the Ton.

Jag-Ton

Is the new organ functioning well?
mortonjag 2008-02-14 19:18:59
QUOTE(Deego @ Feb 14 2008, 07:17 PM) [snapback]403754[/snapback]
Other clubs do it as well.

Better-even!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 19:30:36
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Feb 14 2008, 07:22 PM) [snapback]403757[/snapback]
Yes ,
of course you would know of potentia chairmen, bags of cash to throw at the club,
the probably all live on the same housing scheme as you and drink in the yard.

reality check needed you MORON

foobsl

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Foobs seems to like Mr Rae and dislike folk who live in housing schemes.

Isn't that a surprise! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-14 19:32:01
QUOTE(jag-ton @ Feb 14 2008, 07:22 PM) [snapback]403758[/snapback]
Everything seems to be in working order! The first time's always a trauma (I was led to believe), but she said I was better than a sweaty (and thus hyper-conductive) Chris Miller.

I think you're a motherboard f*cker jaggy bott!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 06:37:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 14 2008, 12:23 PM) [snapback]403504[/snapback]
I concur! Will still take a wee walk at somepoint, but it wont be as enjoyable!

Mr Sun's definitely coming today Puggs-I've 'phoned the BBC and complained and they're fixing it for us.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 06:38:47
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 14 2008, 07:59 PM) [snapback]403767[/snapback]
that's a hard one



It was meant to be a serious question!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 06:45:13
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 14 2008, 08:01 PM) [snapback]403769[/snapback]
why is mortonjag talking to himself?



Hey jaggy bott-hope you're well oiled-forza wants you to speak at the same time as me-jaggy bott-do you need me to boot you up the mainframe? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-15 06:49:29
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 14 2008, 08:48 PM) [snapback]403786[/snapback]
Retire gracefully, sail into the sunset and leave the club in the capable hands of someone younger with a new vision of direction. (ohh my, was that ageism smile.gif )

Decidedly not wise one.
Either that or he could transmogrify into a plooky teenager overnight, and come on here spouting pisssshh at the new Chairman.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 06:51:19
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 14 2008, 09:44 PM) [snapback]403816[/snapback]
Both sets of fans are being blamed for the dismissal of the manager at their clubs, but it's not what you say its the way you say it.

That needs no further comment! wink.gif


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mortonjag 2008-02-15 06:55:46
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 13 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]403161[/snapback]
Sadly too many "know-it-alls" in the morton support.

McInally was hated by some folk from the minute he walked through the door (i suspect because of his connections with one half of the OF) and therefor never stood a chance.

Duffy ? pesonally i wouldn't want him in charge simply because he's got more failures than succeses.

Is that why Alistair Donald will never last as a director then you sozzled ape?
mortonjag 2008-02-15 07:02:40 You really are an irresponsible shower-we have the best kit man in Scotland-nay in the world-he has state of the art ironing facilities with super sensitive mico thermo switching technology, and his hampers are constructed from the finest hand crafted wicker-he is a fine fine man, and I'm certain the Chairman will do his utmost to talk him out of his impending resignation.

Shame on you.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 07:03:46
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 14 2008, 09:14 PM) [snapback]403794[/snapback]
I can just see Paul Hughes latest article in tomorrow's Sun:

"John Connolly is the latest name to be linked with the vacant Morton manager's job."

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mortonjag 2008-02-15 07:04:42
QUOTE(davidh1874 @ Feb 14 2008, 11:01 PM) [snapback]403851[/snapback]
It's a distict possibility.

I was only trying to educate people on his willingness to take the position...........don't shoot the messenger!!

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mortonjag 2008-02-15 07:09:09 I liked Hawk a lot-my fondest memory will always be the way he used to challenge a goalie-running in on him with his arms flapping wildly.

Quite the opposite of a hawk at work come to think of it.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 07:13:34
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 14 2008, 09:20 PM) [snapback]403798[/snapback]
Hit a nerve did I. But since your opinion matters not a jot as you admit yourself you have not had to suffer like us fools I won't read too much into it.

I was not talking about anyone boycotting games, I was talking about others telling people to grow up and not to take the comments seriously despite the fact this is man in his 70's who papped the toys out the pram. But maybe because his baws are probably redundant now he is exempt from criticism from the 'adults' on this forum.

That could explain the angst!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 07:17:16
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 15 2008, 12:25 AM) [snapback]403893[/snapback]
I'll give two reasons to be cautious (but not necessarily distrusting) of the new director.
1. He's a management consultant (a breed known to speak in tongues whilst promising to perform miracles)
2. He has worshipped (probably still does) at the Temple of Beelzebub.

KIndred spirit for the Chairman then!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 07:24:13
QUOTE(Exiled Scot @ Feb 15 2008, 06:29 AM) [snapback]403898[/snapback]
I don’t think any prospective manager who is worth talking to will be unaware of the vacancy as JM’s departure has made National News. I don’t think any prospective employee worth talking to will not check out the website of the company they wish to work for. Having it advertised on the official simply gives the details of where and to whom to apply.

This is a feeble attempt to highlight the shortcoming and lack of professionalism of Morton and Douglas Rae in an ongoing (and frankly boring) slur campaign. It is becoming worryingly close to an obsession with some (one) contributors on here.

Mea culpa! I've always been obsessive-it's the least of my sins.

Bored-read a good book or something-maybe one that will enable you to understand the meaning of the word 'professionalism'.

Unfortunately, no amount of reading will give you the perception you clearly lack. wink.gif



mortonjag 2008-02-15 07:34:39 The sun has got his hat on
Hip hip hip hooray
The sun has got his hat on
And he'll shine on Dougie Rae

Welcome back auld Shoogly
Why were you away
The sun has got his hat on
And he'll shine on you all day

The sun has got his hat on
Everyone is gay
In boozers in the Broomy
and those posh pads in Wemyss Bay

The sun has got his hat on
Tomorrow's Saturday
Someones due a humping
As we drive across the Tay

Welcome back auld Shoogly
Why were you away
Lets put he past behind us
Well at least for one more day wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-15 08:47:58
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Feb 15 2008, 08:30 AM) [snapback]403925[/snapback]
Poetically good but technically incorrect - DDF came back yesterday afternoon... tongue.gif rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-02-15 08:51:53
QUOTE(jag-ton @ Feb 15 2008, 07:43 AM) [snapback]403914[/snapback]
Sorry forza - I am not MortonJag.

Anyway, last night I went out on the town with my new friend R2D2. That guy has all the gossip (apparently C3PO is gay - who'd have guessed that?). After overindulging a bit on the old battery-acid, we took a trip to the home of DDFR to see if my x-ray vision could uncover any scandal that would further prove his incompetence in running our club. Frankly, I was shocked. DDFR and his wife were in bed together. Fast asleep. Fully clothed. Not only that, but they had a cat in the room with them. I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions, but to me this proves that he has finally lost the plot and must be removed from office poste-haste (to use a phrase that he might use in his program notes).

My database of evidence is starting to take shape.

Jag-Ton

Scandal-Cappie and Mrs Rae! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-15 08:55:02
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Feb 15 2008, 08:20 AM) [snapback]403919[/snapback]
I thought it was only the Yanks that called it a "stiff whiskey"

Don't know why though...just like I don't know why they call a toilet a bathroom. And their trousers "pants" and a bum-bag is a "fannypack".

???

....and lunatics-President.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 08:56:25
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 15 2008, 08:18 AM) [snapback]403917[/snapback]
stiff = strong, potent

stiff=transient, infrequent, but NOT in frequently.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 08:57:24
QUOTE(The Guv @ Feb 15 2008, 08:43 AM) [snapback]403931[/snapback]
To hide his allegiences to Rangers.

Simple as that.

A Rangers fan with a soft spot for his local side.

Do you know him Guv?
mortonjag 2008-02-15 09:18:32
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Feb 15 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]403938[/snapback]
Just wondering if Gazza will be interested in the job this time around.

He has had managerial experiance since the last time when he phoned up Mr Rae enquiring about it during a match

I think he may-he used to live in Kilbarchan.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 09:47:17
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 15 2008, 09:38 AM) [snapback]403947[/snapback]
this has went completely over my head, and ive never been gladder of anything in my life.

Like the proverbial giraffe's baws PT!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 10:16:42
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Feb 15 2008, 09:44 AM) [snapback]403951[/snapback]
I remember the Gazza thing last time round - very surreal. And Chick Young's hot tip was for a dream team of Gerry Collins and Andy Ritchie. I don't think JM's name was mentioned until just before his appointment.

I can also remember Ian Durrant being tipped to become player manager (think it was after McGraw left).

Was he not a drummer for the Blockhead Bears?
mortonjag 2008-02-15 10:19:41
QUOTE(princessTON @ Feb 15 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]403964[/snapback]
im confident the players will be up for this game and i think we will win 2-1

C'MON YE TON
mortonjag 2008-02-15 10:58:57
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Feb 15 2008, 10:43 AM) [snapback]403975[/snapback]
Absolutely shocking. You'd think the junkie postman would have had time to open all the cards looking for money and have nicked all the presents. Standards are clearly slipping.

Whether or not he was a 'junkie postman' they were clearly for delivery by van-too wide an area for a local postie.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 11:05:19
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 15 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]403977[/snapback]
2-1 Dundee, McInally may have gone, but his assistant is still in charge. Why would that make any difference to the fact we've been playing s***e?

C'mon man- it is a fresh start for the players-do you know what the relationship is between the players and MC? Maybe it's OK, and even if it's not they know he's only a figurehead.

I can't see why they won't be up for this game. I believe we have turned the corner. Tomorrow Jenkins will be the real manager.

mortonjag 2008-02-15 11:07:18
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 15 2008, 10:38 AM) [snapback]403973[/snapback]
But if he does well, Robert Cochrane will call him 'the Duffster', the opposite end of the spectrum. sad.gif

I was thinking of 'Plum'.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 11:09:55
QUOTE(Torro @ Feb 15 2008, 11:06 AM) [snapback]403981[/snapback]
Loved the description of the lad who found the mail - local rabbit hunter ! laugh.gif

Elmer Fudd of Bogston braes.


Hey-you can say fudd.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 11:38:46
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 15 2008, 11:14 AM) [snapback]403984[/snapback]
Good.

You're a fudd. tongue.gif

An old fudd, don't you mean?
mortonjag 2008-02-15 11:47:16
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Feb 15 2008, 11:25 AM) [snapback]403986[/snapback]
No matter who comes in there will be folk on here that will still moan even if the team do well. They will wait for things to go wrong wont have been on here for long enough and then boom they will come on and say told you so. I belive the next manager will need time and the fans need to get behind the team.

The only task the new manager has at the start is to finish clear of relegation. It should be pretty clear after his first two or three games if things have improved-and I honestly don't think there's much chance they won't-no matter who comes in.

IMO the players had got into a rut with JM in charge. He's gone and they have a fresh start. I don't think they'll disappoint us.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 11:57:17 Hmm-don't know what to think now. My source meets him regularly and she believes he's a Ton fan, but Stu claims to have inside knowledge which makes sense-looks like Geordie boy is a closet Hun, and using his genuine Ton sympathies to promote his career.

Is that fair?
mortonjag 2008-02-15 12:20:43
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Feb 15 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]404003[/snapback]
Yep, a few fudd's around tongue.gif

Belgian chocolate fudd


Yummy!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 12:37:28
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 15 2008, 12:23 PM) [snapback]404005[/snapback]
You can say fud too tongue.gif

laugh.gif

Must say I always been impressed by a double D.

Can you also say Diddy?
mortonjag 2008-02-15 12:40:02
QUOTE(tommydoc @ Feb 15 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]404007[/snapback]
Robert's choice of nicknames usually has no link whatsoever to the person that the nickname has been attributed to. So for Jim Duffy expect something like 'Hedgehog' or some other totally random word.

True-Jim's never a p***k.

or a fudd!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 12:58:03
QUOTE(The Shuffler @ Feb 15 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]404016[/snapback]
This has happened a few times in Greenock too.

I used to work in a place beside St Laurences school & one of my colleagues desk looked out onto the school, whilst having her coffee one morning she noticed a postman on the wasteground next to the school,thinking he was taking a shortcut, when he stopped, gave a quick glance around ,then proceeded to dump the contacts of his mailbag into the wee burn which runs down there !

A quick phonecall to GPO from my colleague quickly identified the culprit, seemed it wasn't just the once he done it either. The reason (given in the press later ), was that "he couldn't be bothered finishing his rounds !"

Generally pissed off?
mortonjag 2008-02-15 13:01:00
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 15 2008, 12:45 PM) [snapback]404013[/snapback]
What happens if they don't?

Do the TTG campaigns start up again? rolleyes.gif

They WILL-we must remain positive-one game at a time. I'm not even prepared to contemplate anything else.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 13:04:35
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 15 2008, 12:46 PM) [snapback]404014[/snapback]
What are you slavering about now? blink.gif

Anyway, I really hope that he doesn't start dishing out nicknames again. His are even worse than your 'Leafy' creation MJ.

FUDDS
mortonjag 2008-02-15 13:06:21
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 15 2008, 12:54 PM) [snapback]404018[/snapback]
Maybe cos he's the only one who asked to do it? Why don't you apply, if it concerns you?

He's much too busy at his chosen occupation!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 13:13:52
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 15 2008, 01:03 PM) [snapback]404022[/snapback]
Let's not go that far. laugh.gif Awaits another PM from Phil Cannie rolleyes.gif

I always remember the fans singing

Posh Spice is a slapper
She's got a mingin' fanny
And when she's shagging David
She thinks of Philip Cannie

Hey-we did sing in those days.

Let's sing again tomorrow

Posh Spice is a slapper
It takes two c***s to fill 'er
And when she's shagging David
She thinks of wee Midge Millar

unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-15 13:22:41
QUOTE(eehbahton @ Feb 15 2008, 01:11 PM) [snapback]404028[/snapback]
Not optimistic of any kind of result. Dundee to win 2-0 without breaking sweat.
Hope I'm wrong but I think we are in freefall to the 2nd division.

BLOODY HELL-do you not read the news?

Are you sitting comfortably-then I'll begin-

Once upon a time there was a football side who were playing badly. Sometimes they played very well, but most times they played badly. The story goes that the wicked wizard of Monifieth had cast an evil spell on them, and try as they might they were unable to escape the all pervading power of his expressionless face.

One fine day the wicked wizard came to his senses-'enough of this wickedness', he thought-'I will go somewhere else and try to be good'.

And so it was that the football side who mostly played badly started to mostly play well. And everyone was happy ever after.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 13:29:12
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Feb 15 2008, 01:20 PM) [snapback]404032[/snapback]
YES INDEED - cos I am in fact the poet laureate...

Neddy-those things you get at Lunderston Bay are called rosettes-not laurel wreaths!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 13:37:13
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 15 2008, 01:08 PM) [snapback]404025[/snapback]
ohmy.gif ohmy.gif Shockerooney. Heard of a guy in Barrhead who was getting charged a while back for doing something similar, although I think he was hording the mail in his house. It affected some mail that i had sent.

It would NEVER have happened in Postman Pat's day. What's happening?
mortonjag 2008-02-15 13:39:59
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 15 2008, 01:16 PM) [snapback]404030[/snapback]
My favourite was

Posh spice is a slapper
Not like her mate Geri
and when she's shagging Beckham,
she screams Bottiglieri!

Can it be that it was all so simple then? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-15 13:41:50
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 15 2008, 01:38 PM) [snapback]404038[/snapback]
If he does come then we can have the "skull and crossbone" Morton supporters club...well I think there is a likeness.

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDBonehead!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 13:59:37
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 15 2008, 01:43 PM) [snapback]404041[/snapback]
I like that. We should call him Hedgehog

Tilly headline


HEDGEHOG HAILS HERO HARDING! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-15 14:07:18
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 15 2008, 01:48 PM) [snapback]404043[/snapback]
Mind you Jess always looked a bit fishy biggrin.gif

True-but those were principled people-people who always delivered the giros on time and kept the bills till the next day-people who didn't leave little bits of rubber all over the place after they'd been on the job-people who served Queen and Country no less.

Whatever has become of us?
mortonjag 2008-02-15 14:09:38
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 15 2008, 01:51 PM) [snapback]404047[/snapback]
TBH I haven't been in the Norseman for years, due to the fact that i drive to most home games now. But on the occassions that i did frequent it, it was always a bit of a hole, but the atmosphere was always good. Typical mans pub I always thought. Nowt wrong with that.

unsure.gif

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-15 14:44:43
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Feb 15 2008, 02:36 PM) [snapback]404054[/snapback]
From memory he just played sh1t.

Every week.

Moving off the point a bit, I remember the week Millen was in the Daily Record spouting his "family man" credentials - only to get a red card in his next for us for using foul and abusive language! Aye, he was setting a good example to the kids in the crowd that day.

Millen is not the answer. We need an experienced head with a proven track record.

Schumacher's old helmet may be available.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 14:56:01
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Feb 15 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]403990[/snapback]
Your days as a Dr must have been wasted my good friend! wink.gif

Do you do requests?

Maybe ............

One about "McInally on the Swally"

I am sure you could come up with some even better ones blink.gif tongue.gif

Just spoke to a bloke who's quite pally
With ex 'Ton' boss Jim McInally
When asked, came the answer
They're b*****ds, thae fans are
It really wiz too much tae swally
mortonjag 2008-02-15 15:44:02
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 15 2008, 03:16 PM) [snapback]404066[/snapback]
Not going to any more on the matter.

Peter Weatherson has the same number of league goals this season as Chris Aitken.

Tomorrow is a new day! 'Mon ye TON!!!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 15:53:49
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 15 2008, 03:03 PM) [snapback]404060[/snapback]
Have you got it in a pickle jar?

Are you Schumacher's doctor ?


Gentlemen-I believe he's still alive, and despite your macabre interest I don't pickle severed heads-formaldehyde is getting far too expensive.

I've discovered it's best to freeze dry them. They don't take up too much space, though 'she' insists they are kept at least two millimetres away from the custard.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 15:58:35
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Feb 15 2008, 03:52 PM) [snapback]404077[/snapback]
Enjoyable post good Dr

however I don't think Pam Ayres will lose any sleep

Foobs biggrin.gif

Pam Ayres and poetry should never be mentioned in the same sentence Foobs-I guess you must have been charmed by that wee wicked smile she always used in apology.

How to make money from mince without being a butcher! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-15 16:04:32
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 15 2008, 03:38 PM) [snapback]404070[/snapback]
For a country with 42 teams we have had 13 managers leave the jobs they had, anyone think thats a lot.

John Collins: Hibs - Resigned
Jim McInally: Morton - Resigned
Dick Campbell: Ross County - Sacked
John Coughlin: Berwick - Stenny
Campbell Money: Stenny - Sacked
Gerry McCabe: Dumbarton - Sacked
Stephen Kenny: Dunfermline - Sacked
Gerry Britton: Stran - Thistle assitant
Colin Hendry: Clyde - Sacked
Owen Coyle: St Johnstone - Burnely
Neil Watt: Ayr - Resigned
Billy Stark: Queens Park - Scotland u21s
Anotoly Korobochka: Hearts - moved back upstairs

Because he couldn't do his job?
mortonjag 2008-02-15 16:26:25
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 15 2008, 04:08 PM) [snapback]404081[/snapback]
Head? I thought you were talking about his helmet.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I missed that completely Mr Edwards-indeed I do pickle the helmets in virgin balsamic vinegar.

Very good on the chips!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 16:28:47 It just needs somebody with a big bugle to start us off!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 20:35:15
QUOTE(Edinton @ Feb 15 2008, 04:45 PM) [snapback]404095[/snapback]
"it's not what you say it's the way that you say it...and that's what life's about..."

OH-who signed AdamCoakley? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-15 20:40:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 15 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]404127[/snapback]
Gidday Donga,

was that meant to be an oxymoron ?

mellow.gif

Alliterative oxymoron I suspect Newt-nice to see you have risen again!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 20:58:09
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 15 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]404168[/snapback]
People in glass houses. Rab gets slated on here all the time and all he does is write a lot of nonsense in the Record once a week. At least the rubbish he writes has gone through some sort of thought process before going in. It's mainly nonsense but it's Foucault compared to the dross on here.
I've not been on here for a while due to work and this board reads like a messageboard for the mentally ill.

Really Mr McArthur, and where's the wondrous virtue in a 'thought process'?

I'm sure a scabby dug goes through some 'thought process' before it decides where to do the s*** which you slip on and break your supercilious neck.

Oh, and BTW, many mentally ill people are highly intelligent and creative-myself included!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 21:09:02
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 15 2008, 08:55 PM) [snapback]404187[/snapback]
Sorry to be a pedant but those songs were classics and need to be preserved in their original forms. tongue.gif

Oh Dear JonaTon-when you're half deaf and sit in the stand you sometimes miss the finer points!

Posh Spice is a slapper
Wi' plastic tits and wallies
And when she's sookin' Beckam's
She lies and dreams o' Khali's.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 21:13:41
QUOTE(craigeton @ Feb 15 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]404192[/snapback]
I think this is Rae's best chance to pick a team himself and I think he will. He has obviously had an influence in past teams and I think that before a new manager comes in and (hopefully) tells him to keep his nose out of team affairs, he will not be able to stop himself. I think we might just see a few surprises tomorrow.

I expect us to do well.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 21:17:40
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 15 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]404191[/snapback]
You're not mentally ill, you're just dull.

Spoken with authority by the scintillating Mr McArthur.

I AM mentally ill, by the way-how dare you question my diagnosis?
mortonjag 2008-02-15 22:01:12
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 15 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]404209[/snapback]
laugh.gif

It's folk like you that give metal illness a bad name.

Oh I do my best for the cause!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 22:04:58
QUOTE(Flyerton @ Feb 15 2008, 09:22 PM) [snapback]404210[/snapback]
Hey Doc. I hear you have retired.

As a general medical question though, can you think of anything that can help moderate cervical spondylosis? Occasionally noises from the vertabrae in question can be heard with a rotation starting with the occipital.

There are dozens of different treatments, but ultimately it's a degenerative process. I'd be daft to even make a suggestion unless I knew more about your individual circumstances.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 22:06:14
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 15 2008, 09:26 PM) [snapback]404215[/snapback]
Physiotherapy or manipumative therapy would probably be the best bet.

Also known as 'big cat' therapy!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 22:12:49
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 15 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]403959[/snapback]
laugh.gif Starting to go that way for me to mate.

I think jaggy bott may have crashed Weegie! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-15 22:17:07
QUOTE(888 @ Feb 15 2008, 09:56 PM) [snapback]404232[/snapback]
toby is most likely the only orgasm his father has regretted two faced turd gives me earache
for giving his numpty wee mate a dig [a guy he ignored for quite a while not too long ago]
and now he starts to berate a wee guy who has been about The Ton since he was a ball boy aged 8. So nob just you get you wee girlie fingers tapping and post an apology See you at Dundee.

Do you dislike Toby?
mortonjag 2008-02-15 22:18:41 We have a game tomorrow, and nobody seems interested!


C'mon ye TON!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 22:23:50
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 15 2008, 10:21 PM) [snapback]404242[/snapback]
I'm in Dundee, and let me tell you that excitement among the Greenockian contingent here has reached fever pitch already.

Sort of.

How many of you are there?
mortonjag 2008-02-15 22:27:53
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Feb 15 2008, 09:55 PM) [snapback]404231[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Feb 15 2008, 08:04 AM) [snapback]404061[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I may get shot down for this why not ask John Mccormack to come back all the back stabbers have left the club.
I always thought McCormack done well at cappielow, obviously we blew it that season during the player revolt and betting scandal and this had the after effects from it. He did get us playing well during his time, the only problem is that our players are fragile enough after the terrible run(s) this year that a shouty in yer face hairdryer manager(remember him slating stewart mcdonald for a bad throw in at ross county in the cup) may not be right. We need someone who has got respect as a footballer(for me thats JD) and hopefully a diplomatic persona when dealing with us and the board.
Whoever it is including some of the cabbages mentioned as a support we have got to give him 100% support as this is more important than a petty point scoring mission.

It's only reasonable to give any new manager enough time to prove himself one way or the other. Unfair criticism in the early stages is just as bad as blind allegiance in the latter.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 22:31:38
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 15 2008, 10:24 PM) [snapback]404244[/snapback]
Five, two of whom are going to the match. laugh.gif

Two more will join us tomorrow.

Wish I was there-the atmosphere here is dead-can't understand it. After the misery of last Saturday and the strange goings on during the week, we have a fresh start. I thought our fans would grasp the opportunity to prove the doubters wrong, but it's been the worst build up to an away game all season.

Most peculiar! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-15 23:02:40
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Feb 15 2008, 10:46 PM) [snapback]404254[/snapback]
Jag..... please could you start replying to posts all in the one post? Please? sad.gif

Just hit the wee QUOTE button on the post you want to quote, could be one, could be several. Then simply click ADD REPLY, and voila...

laugh.gif

I always forget how to do that-anyway-what's wrong with individual replies?
mortonjag 2008-02-15 23:04:38
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Feb 15 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]404257[/snapback]
Ach, Andy Bryan is harmless. I mind he was attempting to fire into the missus and asked for her phone number in the Spinnaker at a players' do and my brother offered to write it on his forehead with a ballpoint pen. Brilliant.

Is that the same as 'a joke'? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-15 23:07:42
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Feb 15 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]404256[/snapback]
It's simply mission accomplished for many on here, now McInally has quit. not much for them to talk about! smile.gif

I was wondering about that myself. I could, of course, have a pop at Mr Rae, and all hell would break loose, but there's an amnesty at present, and I hope our victory tomorrow will keep that in place.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 23:11:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 15 2008, 11:01 PM) [snapback]404265[/snapback]
Have youse two got a web cam link? laugh.gif

We do NOT share each others sausages Mr Edwards!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 23:13:20
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Feb 15 2008, 11:10 PM) [snapback]404273[/snapback]
I hope your right.........about the victory that is!

Guaranteed-all the signs are right-Dundee just off a great cup victory-Morton just shed a manager.

Classic coupon buster!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 23:17:01
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Feb 15 2008, 11:12 PM) [snapback]404275[/snapback]
Fab and even merits a significant and very seldom used smiley from me - biggrin.gif

TY Santa-I am embarrassed-not often I get praise from a Saint! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-15 23:18:14
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Feb 15 2008, 11:16 PM) [snapback]404280[/snapback]
That would be individual replies, just in one post....

It would indeed save money on the stamps! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-15 23:21:41 I haven't a clue who our worst manager was, but given how far the squad and facilities were ahead of the pack, Jim McInally certainly rates in my book as the least experienced, and slowest to progress.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 23:23:52
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Feb 15 2008, 11:20 PM) [snapback]404283[/snapback]
Indeed MJ - consider oneself very fortunate!

Are you on the Glasgow run this Christmas BTW?

It's just that my present bike's getting a wee bit rusty, and I'd love a decent ride.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 23:25:35
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 15 2008, 11:22 PM) [snapback]404285[/snapback]
I remember a while back going into Dens park with HS in front of me at the gate. He turned round and said 'This is going to be a coupon buster'. That's exactly how it turned out, Craig McPherson played a blinder that day. If I knew then what I came to know later, I would've burst HS's coupon as well.

HS will get his come uppance DE-God is on our side!

Anyway it's past the monkey's bedtime. Tomorrow at this hour the board will still be buzzing with pleasure. Once again we will be Morton-super Morton! sleep.gif

Goodnight and sweet dreams.
mortonjag 2008-02-16 07:49:16
QUOTE(888 @ Feb 15 2008, 11:28 PM) [snapback]404289[/snapback]
knew him as a young lad who visited his gran in millport and until recently found him to be a
fine young lad and have now seen an other side of him with mostly vicious bile being spouted
at all and sundry every time i see him at a match, then watch as he gets chucked out i find it a wee bit distressing as i know what he could be an articulate and knowlegable critic who with more decorum could put his case forward in a less agressive manner.

I sense you may feel he needs psychological help.
mortonjag 2008-02-16 08:02:38
QUOTE(Lifelongfan @ Feb 16 2008, 03:14 AM) [snapback]404335[/snapback]
As you can see I don't 'do' many posts, however I've got to say that the moron, that is MJ, needs to have a good look in the mirror and give a good talking to the reflection he sees, maybe he'll then find the captive audience he so obviously seeks with all his arrogant postings overe the years?? Is it really years he's been using this forum to spout his waffle?



laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I'm not sure I like the 'ignorant' bit, mind you.

Just a wee question. Has Mortonjag done something to offend you personally, or are you just another of the board's wannabe censors?

I've recently been accused of 'attacking other posters' and have pointed out that I NEVER attack without provocation.

I'm giving you the chance to let me know if I have caused PERSONAL offence.

If not, you are clearly just another sad fool drawn to MJ's keyboard persona like a moth to a candle flame.
Keeps the pot boiling-that does!
mortonjag 2008-02-16 08:07:34
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 16 2008, 04:57 AM) [snapback]404336[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

that is rather poor grammar for a former pupil of PGS.

sad.gif sad.gif

True Newt-since you've been gone I have got sloppy about many things!
mortonjag 2008-02-16 08:17:41 In all the time I've been posting, I can't remember so little interest in an important game. Is everybody 'burned out' after the week's comings and goings?

Anyway, what do you think of this wee commercial idea?

The club is saving a fair bit right now on a manager's salary. That would easily fund an additional £100 per player win bonus today.

I reckon it's a win, win situation-no payout without three points, and a victory today will put an extra two or three hundred bums on seats next week. That income could again fund an identical bonus AND leave us in pocket.


C'MON YE TON
mortonjag 2008-02-16 08:23:47
QUOTE(mfc_millar_mfc @ Feb 16 2008, 08:00 AM) [snapback]404346[/snapback]
Fire has destroyed the Ramada Jarvis

Is that the Hotel at McInroy's Point?
mortonjag 2008-02-16 08:43:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 16 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]404351[/snapback]
I suggest you come to your senses.

You have a BIG day ahead of you.

Do you think McInally will be at Dens Park ?

huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif

I imagine that's the last place on earth he'd want to be today. I'll guarantee he'll be high tailing it out of Dundee mid morning to take in the game at Parkhead (if he's not gone off on holiday).
mortonjag 2008-02-16 08:45:35
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 16 2008, 08:27 AM) [snapback]404355[/snapback]
I'll pass the message on to him, when I see him at 10.

Brave '888' built up the courage to post on the unofficial board. He'll be upset. sad.gif

At least post your name if you're gonna do that.
PS I love that you chose to call someone articulate, and then misspell "knowledgeable" and "aggressive". laugh.gif

I think 'brave' 888 did identify himself in one of his earlier posts-could be wrong mind!
mortonjag 2008-02-16 08:47:11
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Feb 16 2008, 08:24 AM) [snapback]404353[/snapback]
Collective exhaustion has set in after the last few months furious wankfest.

Incentives are often good but a few good players would be better smile.gif

It won't improve their ability TT, but could fire them up!
mortonjag 2008-02-16 08:50:55
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 16 2008, 08:47 AM) [snapback]404366[/snapback]
You're missing the point Greg, that's how you get to be the author of 14,000 posts. He gets four posts for the price of one. But he is mentally ill I suppose.

Jeezo-this McArthur man has the perception and wisdom of Solomon.

Maybe his friend on the 'Ranger' should call him 'Plankton'.
mortonjag 2008-02-16 08:53:23
QUOTE(mfc_millar_mfc @ Feb 16 2008, 08:43 AM) [snapback]404361[/snapback]
thats what one of the guys was saying and that now they have no excuse not to build the flats.

Wonder what started it ?

Who? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-16 08:59:19
QUOTE(Danger_Mouse @ Feb 16 2008, 08:56 AM) [snapback]404369[/snapback]
Jewish Lightning?

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mortonjag 2008-02-16 09:02:41
QUOTE(mfc_millar_mfc @ Feb 16 2008, 08:59 AM) [snapback]404372[/snapback]
Ok wonder who started it?

It could be any of a number of interested parties-perhaps a disenchanted employee of their insurance company? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-16 09:16:01
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 16 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]404375[/snapback]
Surely 'Plankster' would be more his style?

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Haven't a clue Mr McArthur-I've never read his column.

Is he a regular contributor, or do his pieces appear without warning?
mortonjag 2008-02-16 09:18:19
QUOTE(Danger_Mouse @ Feb 16 2008, 09:16 AM) [snapback]404377[/snapback]
funnily enough the building is owned by Norwich Union - or it was when it was open!

AHA-the c*nts who wouldn't pay out on Shergar!

Insurance companies are among my top five 'hates'!
mortonjag 2008-02-16 10:12:56
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 16 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]404380[/snapback]
They act as bookies? unsure.gif

Guess they DO in a sense Mr Bam.

I watched a documentary about yon' cuddy a while back. Shergar's ex trainer left the Norwich Union without a name.

I also has a long running fight with them after we had a burglary in the Mearns, which I 'kinda' won! I don't suppose they are any better or worse than the rest.
mortonjag 2008-02-16 10:17:28
QUOTE(jag-ton @ Feb 16 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]404383[/snapback]
Haven't crashed, my human friend. My learning circuits have taught me only to post when there's something worth saying. It's a very simple rule. It's a pity I can't download it onto some human brains, isn't it?

Jag-Ton

Ha-the deviousness of human programmes Jaggy Bott-you said we'd be hearing a lot from you and that you were on course for 15,000 posts.

Will you be in your usual position at Dens? wink.gif

Do more to keep us in the picture!
mortonjag 2008-02-16 10:20:10
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 16 2008, 10:02 AM) [snapback]404384[/snapback]
I don't think we have saved any money. I am sure that DDFR will see McInally/Clark alright and we will start employing a new management team shortly I assume on about the same money.

As he resigned I would not think he would get his year's salary pay off but suppose he got 3 months salary just as an illustration. If we have a new manager in place by next week then the two week period without a manager will have cost us 3 months salary so we are approx two and a half months salary down.

I do however, think that incentivising the players may be a good move and we might just catch Dundee on the rebound after their cup victory.

Back to my original speculation that it wasn't as simple as JM 'walking away'.

Allan Jenkins states in today's 'Sun' that he thinks it had been on the cards for a couple of weeks before he signed.
mortonjag 2008-02-16 10:21:25
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 16 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]404387[/snapback]
if an extra £100 is the difference between our players winning and losing then they shouldnt be playing for us in the first place.

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In that case we may as well ask them to forego their salaries for the good of the club! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-17 09:58:56
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 16 2008, 10:54 AM) [snapback]404405[/snapback]
our metal friend has a superior sense of irony, grasshopper smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-02-17 10:05:42
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 16 2008, 10:51 AM) [snapback]404403[/snapback]
Have to agree with my auld pal Dongo here, over the past year or so this has went from being a Morton website to a MortonJag website.

I like you, and occasionally agree with you, but not fecking 14,000 times. You posted something pretty uncontroversial the other day, and my first thought was heres another six pages of self-satisfaction coming up. And i was right.

You're a nutter.

Can't argue with that! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-17 10:15:30
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ Feb 17 2008, 01:50 AM) [snapback]405080[/snapback]
I was in the Directors Box today as a guest of the Dundee CEO, after the game everyone connected with Dundee agreed it was one of the worst decisions they'd seen and that Chris clearlywon the ball.

Agreed but Mr Muir might just have been huffy because he argued back after already booked.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 10:21:04 I was surprised to hear Davie Irons mentioned as a candidate-did Gretna know he wanted away prior to that?
mortonjag 2008-02-17 10:28:31
QUOTE(McInally`s Monkey @ Feb 16 2008, 10:45 PM) [snapback]404953[/snapback]
Allegedly, Stevenson had told McInally on several occasions since his injury that he wasn't fit enough yet. Despite this, McInally (again, allegedly) refused to believe him and was still included in most squads, playing some games whilst unfit.

Maybe Martin Clark believes him and is allowing him to get fit. Believe me if you like but I believe that he believes him

What happened to the state of the art training facilities and regular fitness check ups at Dundee University?

Surely all that wondrous stuff should have made the decision rather than JM or the player!

Fact is Jamie was dynamite with Alloa-and his attitude there was bang on.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 10:39:07
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 17 2008, 12:17 AM) [snapback]405005[/snapback]
I was at the same game as you. We were inept, a clueless shambles in fact. We can't defend and we can't score. The new manager will have a lot of work to do within a very short space of time if we are to survive in this division.

Clueless-yes

Shambles-no

The thing that pleased me most yesterday was the fans' attitude-behind the boys from beginning to end, outshouted the Dees (not that that was hard), supported Midge when he was red carded, and made a fair bit of noise for two or three hundred.

I also enjoyed the sunny weather, even if it was chilly.

Morton played a good deal of attractive passing football, and never stopped trying. I was puzzled by some of the selections, mind you, and what was really wrong yesterday was a total lack of shape and game plan.

We surely have to take positives-the BBC commentator felt that we have the bones of a good side. Get the right manager in and we'll start to improve.


Just a wee post script for Mr Rae.

Did you think the home support were any good yesterday? Why were they so quiet until they heard that Hamilton were losing?

I was wondering if it was because they weren't being entertained, but then again I might be wrong.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 10:50:03 Alcohol loosens up social inhibitions-some become jolly and 'soul of the party' others behave like arseholes.

Quite simple really.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 10:55:11 Maybe if he got some plastic surgery, high heeled fitba bits, and a 'baldy', and started scoring three goals a game for us as our new foreigner Macho Nono, some folk would quite like him.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 10:56:22
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 17 2008, 10:13 AM) [snapback]405129[/snapback]
MJ do you really have mental health problems or are you joking?

Look up my personal details!

Some people have been unkind.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 10:58:57
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 17 2008, 10:00 AM) [snapback]405126[/snapback]
At the end they all one by one clapped the fans. Great gesture. Maybe they see what we see, and its time to build back relationships between us all.

Cheer guys!! Hopefullly we have all turned that corner, fans and players alike.

The atmosphere was good yesterday Sean, and hopefully it will carry over to next Saturday with a new manager in place.

Mind you those were the AWAY supporters-I believe Mr Rae thinks they don't attend home games.


MON YE TON.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 11:02:46 It will amuse me no end if Davie McGurn plays a 'blinder' against St Johnstone.

He will then become an international class goalie, with the blind fools who are currently slagging him off. Well for a wee while anyway! dry.gif

Guys-have you not noticed something has changed at Cappielow?

This is NOT the time to be undermining the players' confidence.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 11:10:02
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 17 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]405164[/snapback]
I'm liking all the "oh he has calmed down" stuff in the thread with people using it as a reason he should come back!

Bollocks, even if he has calmed down that has simply put him at a level of competence he should have been at when he first came to Morton.

If one thing I hate it is people who have the ability and squander it! He deserves to be playing in the second division with Ayr in my opinion!

Puggs-that's a very damning generalisation.

In my experience most people who squander their talents do not deliberately go out to do so.

Talking of pet hates, I find people who don't know their limitations quite irritating-we have several of those on our little forum-your good self not included of course!
mortonjag 2008-02-17 11:54:51
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 17 2008, 11:33 AM) [snapback]405195[/snapback]
Aye but for something like a professional footballer they know they have the talent. With Williams case we signed him on a decent fee and brought him full time at the age of what? 19? And then he was banging in goals for fun and being heralded left, right and centre. Then - almost like flicking a switch in his head - it all ended.

There will always be people who have an ability and choose not to use it but when that ability seems to be something you love and gives you a livlihood, well to throw that away is just an awful thing to see!

Pop stars are perhaps the most common example. It IS tragic-whether they all 'choose' to throw their careers away is a moot point.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 11:57:22
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 17 2008, 11:50 AM) [snapback]405216[/snapback]
i take it youre not an accountant? laugh.gif

Naughty! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-17 12:02:05
QUOTE(jag-ton @ Feb 17 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]405225[/snapback]
My pun-detectors are overloading (but that _was_ a good one wink.gif )

Incidentally, interesting to see that my campaign for irrationality is catching on in other threads.......apparently fans fighting each other is a good thing.......maybe we should encourage more "demonstrations of passion" like this. I will endeavour to provide every fan with a taser-gun. If he sees anything he doesn't like at Cappielow (from the chariman to the players to other fans) then <zap> - 50,000volts later the problem is solved.

Jag-Ton

What's wrong with a Kalashnikov jaggy bott? You and your bloody new fangled technology.

BTW-had yer nookie recently?
mortonjag 2008-02-17 12:04:54
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 17 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]405229[/snapback]
I voted No.

As much as i like the guy, he hasn't been actively involved in Football for a long time now and if we brought him back and it didn't work out, it could spoil a lot of folks happy memories of the guy from a previous era.

He is now a successful businessman, i doubt if he'd have the time to dedicate to a £30k a year tracksuit job, his boozer would probably have that kind of turnover each week, and healthy profits each year.

Surely that is a GOOD thing-Rooney may be 64, but he's still got the same brain and attitude to life.

Alex Ferguson's much older AND a successful businessman too.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 12:10:30
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 17 2008, 11:28 AM) [snapback]405191[/snapback]
I fully agree. There were only about 4/5 of them but they had a disproportionate effect compared to the rest of us who were right behind the team.

We were sitting pretty far left and I think further down, and didn't hear any dissent at all. Well done to the singers-I joined in and my brother was 'takin the piss' at my new found career as a Pavarotti!
mortonjag 2008-02-17 12:15:11
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 17 2008, 12:11 PM) [snapback]405241[/snapback]
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Eh?

I'm gobsmacked, i really am.

Its okay for the players to be careless, thoughtless, heartless and spineless reptiles who dont give a f*** for those who are paying their wages or paying their good hard earned cash to see them, because its only a job?

If they want a job where they dont need to care, just turn up for a wage then they should all f*** off and work for the DHSS or the Councils or something like that, NOT play for football for Morton.

Playing football is more than a job, playing football for MORTON is not a job, it is an honour and a privilege and this shower of s***e would do well to try and understand that.

Of course it is-they are mercenaries-just like all professional footballers. They should do their jobs well for the reward they get, and hopefully get enjoyment and fulfillment too, but fanciful notions of 'honour and privilege' in this day and age are just daft IMO.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 12:17:31
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 17 2008, 11:03 AM) [snapback]405167[/snapback]
Is that a 'yes' or a 'no'? You might be joking in your personal profile as well. tongue.gif

It's just that, if you do, then fair play to you for being open about it and joking about it.

But if you don't, then it's a strange thing to pretend.

Most people who mention 'their psychiatrist' have mental health problems-n'est ce pas?
mortonjag 2008-02-17 12:21:30
QUOTE(Deego @ Feb 17 2008, 01:09 AM) [snapback]405065[/snapback]
Well it was Martin Clark's idea to play Weatherson up front, so it would seem strange for him to move him to centre half. Maybe he did pick the team, although I doubt it.

Russell was left to plough a lone furrow while Greacen AND Harding were dropped in favour of one of Mr Rae's all time favourites Davie McGregor. The Chairman was on the pitch before the game started, in deep conversation with the 'backroom boys'.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 12:36:14
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 17 2008, 12:25 PM) [snapback]405262[/snapback]
Yeah, but my question was do you really have one or are you joking.

If you do have one and really have mental health problems then, as I said, I respect your openness about it. It's usually an illness than men in particular would be ashamed to admit even to themselves, never mind to complete strangers.

I wish you all the best.

Indeed CHC-mental illness has always been put on a different level from 'normal' illness, but let's face it, illness is illness.

One of my best friends is a lovely young woman who suffers from bi-polar depression-she is, if you like, a 'Manic Depressive'. She is highly intelligent, and an extremely talented musician. Both of her parents were anaesthetists, and she was accepted for entry to medical school just as he illness began to demonstrate itself.

Today she can't hold down a job, though she works voluntarily in the Oxfam music store in the West End of Glasgow.

Like myself I guess she's just a 'nutter'.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 12:39:24
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 17 2008, 12:16 PM) [snapback]405247[/snapback]
Sir Alex Ferguson earns several million pounds per year out of managing the largest football club in the UK, Benny Rooney would do well to get the equivalent of a school-teachers wage if he entered back into football management.

Ferguson is a businessman in his own right.

I fail to see your point.

Rooney could undoubtedly help us in some capacity. Goodness, he might even do it for nothing!
mortonjag 2008-02-17 12:47:01
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 17 2008, 12:40 PM) [snapback]405273[/snapback]
Same here.

One of the most common mental health problems is depression, a lot of folk suffer from it and dont realise it, and it can affect people from all walks of life regardless of age, sex, background etc. It is a serious illness which can affect other parts of your life, however not everyone is understanding, sympathetic or at least considerate to a mental illness as they would be to a physical impairment for example.

If you are for real, then please accept my profuse apologies for calling you 'A Nutter'.

As i said before, i like you.

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I don't need any apologies. I've often stated myself that I'm a complete 'nutter', but you're right in highlighting the fact that 'mental illness' encompasses a wide spectrum of psychological problems.

In the sense that some degree of depression probably affects forty odd percent of the population, there must be quite a few 'nutters' on the board.

Is addiction to gambling, drugs, or alcohol also a mental illness-I suggest that it is, and that's a fairly common problem too.

Folk with mental illness need understanding-not pity, and most certainly not ridicule.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 12:54:06
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 17 2008, 12:22 PM) [snapback]405257[/snapback]
Theres nothing wrong with being a good journeyman pro who gives 100% wherever he goes or whoever he plays for, guys like Kenny Milne, Neil McFarlane etc. i respect guys like that. However, to suggest that it is okay for a player to give less than 100% because it is only a job for them is infuriating.

Should we just give these guys a wage and tell them not to turn up for the bus on a saturday?

Agreed.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 12:58:29
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 17 2008, 12:20 PM) [snapback]405252[/snapback]
Was the monkey doing Monkey Chants as I doubt he'd be that great at singing along in a choir tongue.gif

The monkey and Fing are a model of decorum at matches Willow. Others could learn a few lessons from those little bundles of fur!
mortonjag 2008-02-17 15:49:34
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 17 2008, 11:21 AM) [snapback]405183[/snapback]
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Anyone out there studying psychiatry? Add this board to your reading list.

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mortonjag 2008-02-17 15:53:37
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 17 2008, 01:20 PM) [snapback]405314[/snapback]
Of course mental health problems are an illness, the brain is just another organ in the body after all, but one which many people still think of as having a bit of a 'taboo' presumably because of the fear of ridicule you mentioned above.

Most people would go to the doctor with physical ailments without a problem but many would feel embarassed or even ashamed to go for mental issues.

Peoples perceptions of mental health will only change through understanding, and that in turn will only be achieved through openness. So for that reason I admire you for speaking about it in 'public'.

TYCHC

My illness is reasonably well under control, and has been for a while. I use the word 'reasonably' as a 'get out'! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-17 15:57:17
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 17 2008, 02:38 PM) [snapback]405354[/snapback]
Fixed it for you MJ

That snort fair Gash-it was happening long before Coke became the popular suicide it now is.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 16:03:42
QUOTE(jag-ton @ Feb 17 2008, 02:50 PM) [snapback]405361[/snapback]
Even the Greenock polis would recognise a Kalashnikov. I reckon they'd be dumbfounded by a taser.

And after my lovely encounter with Jim Mcinally's now redundant heart monitor (see above), I attempted to strike up a relationship with a semi-retired defibrillator (as I heard a rumour Morton needed one and thought I could help out). It wasn't pleasant. In fact, the whole experience has left me rather shocked (this is my first attempt at a "joke" so be kind)

I've got a "hot-date" tonight with Chris Millar's sunbed, so hopefully I should have more destabilising gossip that will bring down the regime soon...

Jag-Ton

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Jaggy bott-get real it was havin' you on. Those contraptions either work or they don't!
mortonjag 2008-02-17 16:08:34
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 17 2008, 01:10 PM) [snapback]405305[/snapback]
Can anyone explain to me what the role of 'Director of Football' actually is?

To score when he shoots.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 16:12:28
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 17 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]405404[/snapback]
I doubt it will.

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It's a shame really-it would have been a great opportunity for Mr Rae to get us all united again.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 16:15:06 I couldn't really care provided somebody's signed till the end of the season only, with the option to renew the contract if both parties are satisfied.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 16:17:59
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 17 2008, 02:57 PM) [snapback]405368[/snapback]
I don't want Moore. If he's done well with a tight budget, good for him.
This doesn't mean he should be trusted with the management of a much bigger, full-time club with a much bigger budget than he is used to.

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Seems the TON have a wonderful ability to be as big or as wee as suits folks arguments.

I'd take Moore-but I wouldn't take anybody on a long term contract until it's seen what happens.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 16:34:05
QUOTE(Toby @ Feb 17 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]405319[/snapback]
Won't go too much into this, it's ground that has been covered plenty of times in the past and will probably go into in the future the next time we decide to let the team know what we think of them.

However, However, 888's attempt to attack me should have resulted in and assault charge. Had the roles been reversed and I'd went for him, I'd be sitting in a cell in Dundee now awaiting trial, yet it's okay for an older guy to behave like that. He claims he's had worse from his granddaughter, not disputing that, but the reason it didn't go any further is because my mates all rallied on him and he scarpered.

I've known Dennis most of my life and resisted any angry exchanges with him in the past as he's a friend of the family, but he seems to strike me as a guy who likes to air his dirty washing in public. The argument he had over me and Gerry at a game he wasn't even at in December is the perfect example of publicly having his go before his backtracking was done in private. Needless to say I declined his offer of a pint when he came down off his high horse.

Again, he's decided that he'll say his piece on a messageboard for all to see when he feels he's in the right.

TBH I didn't think we were as bad as usual yesterday but this little set too I'd imagine was over the laundry maid, who's Dennis's pal. You can't accept that I don't like one of your pals? I'm pretty sure I pointed out that I wasn't emamoured with your views on Gerry, but I didn't resort to try and fighting over it. Myself and Gerry have always divided the support. Some like us, others can't stand us, and we can live with that, but one guy made himself ook like a proper old fool yesterday, and I don't believe it was me. wink.gif

Toby-you've got me puzzled.

I remember somebody pointed you out to me at Kirkcaldy. That was the day Marvin Andrews first played against us, and two or three eejits were shouting racial abuse. You (unless I'm very much mistaken) were the guy who had a go at them.

Now 888 (I think anyway) is suggesting that you were not terribly inviting to Brian McPhee.

I always admired you for sticking to your guns, but if those details are correct, I'm wondering if it's just that you enjoy being yobbish.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 16:38:51
QUOTE(jag-ton @ Feb 17 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]405444[/snapback]
No, you don't understand. This one alleged (note "ALLEGED") that she had to retire due to the emotional distress caused by being repeatedly used by Alex Williams' GP whenever he received his latest bill from the bookies (allegedly)

Jag-Ton

Just goes to show then Jaggy Bott-never trust a man made contraption!
mortonjag 2008-02-17 16:45:01
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 17 2008, 04:32 PM) [snapback]405458[/snapback]
On the same subject, there was no offer like this during an even more turbulent time when we were in administration and Ally Maxwell was given the responsibility of managing the team merely because he was the most senior player.

That was a real time when his experience could have been used to our advantage.

Perhaps Benny was too busy at the time-you come over as though you're calling his offer in question!

Maybe he has more free time now. If you look at really big clubs, they always seem to have quite a few ex players and staff all doing their wee bit to help. It seems that's all Benny has suggested.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 16:49:55
QUOTE(mentalton @ Feb 17 2008, 04:19 PM) [snapback]405441[/snapback]
I can sook ma own boaby.

Wait till you have to son. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-17 16:51:42 laugh.gif

mortonjag 2008-02-17 17:11:54 Am I mistaken, or are the jobs those Polish people do not available to the community at large.

The reason I ask is that some people have been suggesting they are stealing the jobs of local people.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 17:15:45
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 17 2008, 05:11 PM) [snapback]405490[/snapback]
Me, I have better candidates than Duffy.

Currently out of work manager : Rowan Alexander. Before the he had money argument kicks in the guy only employed winners. He found the likes of the Deuchars and McMenamins of this world and enticed them down to Raydale. Aye so what if he shouts and bawls, he gets the best out of his players. As for winding us up in years gone by, so what, he had a job to do and its win at any cost. We need a winner just now! Give Rowan the money JM has had over the past few seasons im sure he would have enticed more quality to Cappielow. Duffy aint a winner, he's been found wanting at every level. And before the hard luck stories come out about Dundee being skint and Hibs at that time toiling others have been in that position and got the job done, Ian McCall has had more hard luck stories in management thru clubs being in a bad way and look what he's done with them. He's still working and his lot are above us in the league! DUFFY IS NOT THE ANSWER.

Currently in work manager : Gordon Chisholm down at QOS. The guy went in there, shored up a ropey defence and built from the back. The past two months his guys have knuckled down and pulled themselves out of relegation danger. We could nick him. The guy has found his level and its working for him as is Allan Moore at Albion.

Fact or opinion?
mortonjag 2008-02-17 17:17:28
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 17 2008, 05:14 PM) [snapback]405494[/snapback]
Mine

You use a lot of shortcuts!
mortonjag 2008-02-17 17:19:58 I used to like Dickson of Dock Green, Z Cars, 'Cool for Cats', and the Six Five Special.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 17:32:55
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 17 2008, 05:18 PM) [snapback]405498[/snapback]
Both, in my opinion its factual! tongue.gif

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I don't quite get the anti-Duff stuff.

Picking a successful manager is not JUST a matter of previous record surely.

It seems to me that everybody has his favourite but nobody can REALLY guarantee anything.

Bear in mind the 'behind the scenes' interactions at Cappielow. If we're going to have success on the field, AND a happy Chairman, we need a man with the ability to persuade Mr Rae to let the former run the ship.

I believe that for the remainder of the season that's crucial, and I'd suggest a short term contract.

I don't know why Rowan Alexander gets so much support-he may very well be a good motivator/manager, but I don't believe he and the Chairman would last very long together.

For what it's worth, I believe Duffy has enough intelligence and diplomacy to hold things together, and would gain the respect of the players.

Whether or not he's a long term answer I couldn't say.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 17:39:19
QUOTE(Cawston @ Feb 17 2008, 05:30 PM) [snapback]405506[/snapback]
Maybe the time wasn't right for him then, as you suggested in your earlier posts his business interests might have not allowed him the time to get involved.

It's more likely that any offer of help would be along the lines of giving some much needed guidance to the search for the new manager.

Would be exciting to see Benny involved but realistically he's been out the game for some time.

Great to know that we're still in his thoughts.

Will you still need me -when I'm sixty four? Benny could also bridge the generation gap at Cappielow! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-17 17:43:27
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 17 2008, 05:38 PM) [snapback]405514[/snapback]
Thats not what the thread is asking, I would take Alexander, Irons and Alan Moore all before I took Duffy. I have said that many times before I didn't think I needed to repeat it in this thread as well.

Jim-you're at this like a dog with two bones-would it be legitimate to ask if Duffy shagged your missus?

Well that's what they keep asking me about Mr Rae! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-17 17:45:30
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 17 2008, 05:41 PM) [snapback]405518[/snapback]
wow! where is that mate?

Is it not a spent match sideways?
mortonjag 2008-02-17 17:52:34
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 17 2008, 05:50 PM) [snapback]405535[/snapback]
I will answer that honestly as I can.

Not that I know of wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-02-17 18:03:36
QUOTE(Jackie @ Feb 17 2008, 06:00 PM) [snapback]405558[/snapback]
Why not? Sure the results will dampen a players spirit but abuse which is directed at them for every little thing they do will grind them down alot quicker than actual results will.

This isn't linked to yesterdays farce either tbh, I wasn't there so I am not able to comment. This is a general statement for what has been happening for months now.

Rest assured Jackie-yesterday was no farce-the crowd were united behind the lads and they took that on board. I didn't even hear what was being apparently shouted, though I did notice the stewards/police going up towards the back of the stand at one point.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 18:10:38
QUOTE(Deego @ Feb 17 2008, 05:56 PM) [snapback]405550[/snapback]
He didn't, but I did.

Karamba-it was YOU-that was some transmogrification young Deegan-I did wonder at the youthful energy mind you, but I could swear that the bit when she took out your wallies was REAL.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 18:21:54
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Feb 17 2008, 06:15 PM) [snapback]405576[/snapback]
Stop winging and bleating about who you want or don't want.

You're not getting to choose !!!!!

The man who pays the piper calls the tune.

Douglas Rae will pick whoever.

All we can do is turn up and give our support to whoever,

or will the usual suspects start trying to get rid of whoever it is before he gets his foot in the door.
Foobs mad.gif

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If your assertion about the selection process is correct Foobs, your previous terms are a tad unfair.

Do you think Crawford Rae and Alistair Donald will have absolutely no input?
mortonjag 2008-02-17 18:24:40
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 17 2008, 06:21 PM) [snapback]405580[/snapback]
oh crap, now he's got us feeling sorry for him....he has us exactly where he wants us!

next stop, WORLD DOMINATION!!! tongue.gif

The monkey is my master! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-17 18:27:34
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 17 2008, 06:10 PM) [snapback]405570[/snapback]
vid won't play for me. help?

Free download apple quicktime.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 18:29:29
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 17 2008, 06:26 PM) [snapback]405587[/snapback]
you must be the only person i know who's monkey spanks them and not the other way around.

Which takes us full circle-I'm not entirely sane at all times!
mortonjag 2008-02-18 06:36:12
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Feb 17 2008, 11:21 PM) [snapback]405814[/snapback]
If you butter both sides, and THEN drop it, does it cause a rip in the space-time contiuum?

Surely must depend on the type of bread-Scottish Plain outsider-mibbes aye!
mortonjag 2008-02-18 06:39:18
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 18 2008, 12:10 AM) [snapback]405846[/snapback]
If you told them to stick their useless, intelligence-insulting tests up their arses, would they reckon you had leadership potential?

No they'd just look puzzled and e-mail the line manager for help.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 06:51:48
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 18 2008, 01:08 AM) [snapback]405860[/snapback]
Calling The Jag, can you help out the poetic Sir David unsure.gif

DE's in deep remorse man
For days his heid's been swimmin'
In stupor and the Norseman
He shagged two mingin' wimmin
'Apocalyptic horseman'
He pled,'I've been a dim 'un'
The rider roared 'Of course man,
And soon you'll meet that grim 'un'. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-18 07:08:53
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 17 2008, 08:06 PM) [snapback]405665[/snapback]
Does that mean you're going to stop with the 'narcissist' patter?

You'll need to explain that good Sir. I have never consciously ridiculed anyone who has a clinically proven severe personality disorder.

I seem to recall, moreover, that my allusion was to to Narcissus, and NOT to 'a Narcissist'.

If my intuitive perception of a certain poster produced an accurate diagnosis, I proffer my profuse apologies. Indeed I will gladly recommend a superb Clinical Psychologist with a special interest in that condition. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-18 07:16:54
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 17 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]405672[/snapback]
i thought that too.

The commentator stated that Mr Rae had 'informed him' that three candidates were Duffy, Alexander, and Irons. Absolutely sure, as my brother immediately said, 'I hope Gretna know he's applied, or Dougie's made another gaffe'.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 07:22:31
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 17 2008, 07:05 PM) [snapback]405618[/snapback]
Well the 50 who have voted so far have no problem with the question. Structure, structure, structure. In some capacity means within some sort of new structure as people have been debating.

But then again you are piehutt after all. mellow.gif

...and even pie huts have to have a structure-of sorts!
mortonjag 2008-02-18 07:28:14
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 17 2008, 11:25 PM) [snapback]405817[/snapback]
MJ disagrees with my use of the term 'shambles' yet concedes that there was 'a total lack of shape and a game plan'.
In my understanding, 'lack of shape and a game plan' in a football team equals a 'shambles.' No doubt the Doctor will argue otherwise. biggrin.gif

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I've seen many a victory from teams with no shape or game plan Mr Edwards. I thought your term was just a tad emotive!
mortonjag 2008-02-18 07:31:41
QUOTE(.:BrIDo:. @ Feb 18 2008, 12:00 AM) [snapback]405832[/snapback]
2nd in particular.

The last Ton player I saw chip a goalie so coolly was............



Alex Williams, to complete a hat trick on a muddy day at Scapa if I recall.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 07:35:36
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 17 2008, 10:29 PM) [snapback]405795[/snapback]
I agree with the part highlighted but I don't know enough about behind the scenes to say why that is.

Personally, I'd like to think that Stevenson would be professional enough to play wide on the right to the best of his ability if that's where his manager wants to play him but I don't think he has. I'd prefer to see him in the centre but he is paid to play football where his manager sees fit (plus I don't think playing wide right instead of centre mid is that much of an ordeal) so I don't really have much sympathy for him.
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Would you believe I disagree
?

Jimbo's really going to have to learn to 'screw the nut' with his final shots, mind you. He goes on those mazy runs, gets himself into great position, and then hits the ball like a rookie golfer half the time.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 07:42:04
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 17 2008, 10:12 PM) [snapback]405783[/snapback]
Until it's mentioned in the match programme I refuse to accept that it's an issue ph34r.gif tongue.gif

Agreed, and by Arthur Montford.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 07:44:34
QUOTE(Toby @ Feb 18 2008, 02:03 AM) [snapback]405876[/snapback]
Mortonjag, 888 has made no reference to me having any racist views or tendancies on here. I have my political beliefs but they're kept between myself and those I'm comfortable sharing them with. He suggested my mate wasn't terribly inviting to Brian McPhee. My mate knows my views on that and it is kept "in-house".
I don't think it does get to the players, but that's an argument we could debate til doomsday. The main reson was drink and resentment as I said. That doesn't excuse it, but it does go a long way to explaining it.

I could go on and make apologies or just stick to my guns in the cold light of day, but I don't like the majority of the Morton squad. I feel they are work shy and seriously short changing the guys that pay good money to watch them.

I also feel that there are too many happy clappers amongst the support that think that regardless of how badly we're doing these guys can do no wrong.

What I will accept is wrong is the language infront of children and families and for those whose kids heard that, I am genuinely sorry.

However, Jim leaving was never going to make everything in the garden rosy. He was the tip of the iceberg, now we're looking at who else is at fault for the mess of a season we're having.

Fair enough-I thought he had been lumping you together in 'bad mouthing' McPhee.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 08:37:52 I'm very good at killing wasps. I hate those beasties, and have since I was stung as a youngster.

I relentlessly hunt them down-often to the amusement of others.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 08:40:45
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 18 2008, 08:37 AM) [snapback]405904[/snapback]
Did Friar Tuck run like f*** to fetch the merry men? laugh.gif

More like Friar Tuck waddled up to f*ck the Merry Men.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 08:43:05
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 17 2008, 11:59 PM) [snapback]405831[/snapback]
Going by what I've seen so far I'd rather have Templeman than Wake as well.

Sanny was used as a lone target man for ages-then when we got a striker who could have fed off him, they were not paired-bizarre!
mortonjag 2008-02-18 08:45:59
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 18 2008, 08:33 AM) [snapback]405902[/snapback]
There are one or two people I've had 'disagreements' with in the past. I would like to send them a 'wee message' just to leave them in no doubt about my feelings towards them. I've heard that you guys have a sale on and was wondering if you could fix me up with a box of grenades. If you're sold out of those, a tommy gun would do nicely.
I look forward to hearing from you. laugh.gif

Showing your age!
mortonjag 2008-02-18 08:47:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 18 2008, 08:42 AM) [snapback]405911[/snapback]
You mean the merry men were gay? I'm shocked.

Not necessarily-they may have been enchained, and ex-'Merry'!
mortonjag 2008-02-18 08:49:23
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 18 2008, 08:47 AM) [snapback]405916[/snapback]
Enough of your cheek or I'll add you to my 'wee message' list. tongue.gif

I have a sten gun in superb condition!

PS wait for the children rushing to correct my 'typo'!!! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-18 08:54:21
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 18 2008, 08:52 AM) [snapback]405919[/snapback]
Not if it landed on its edge....

Which edge?
mortonjag 2008-02-18 08:55:10
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 18 2008, 08:51 AM) [snapback]405918[/snapback]
i think you mean typpo rolleyes.gif

You are not a child!
mortonjag 2008-02-18 08:59:39
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Feb 18 2008, 08:42 AM) [snapback]405910[/snapback]
What I call a f***ing joke are those that think they are bigger fans than others because they go to every game. There may be perfectly good reasons as to why travelling numbers are dwindling, not least because it costs the best part of £40 to go and watch the rubbish that is being served up. Some would say those that go are dedicated, others would say they're mugs, I say it's their choice but it doesn't make them any better or wors a fan than those that decided or had no choice but to stay at home.

That surely depends on somebody producing a universally acceptable definition of 'The football fan'.

Taking your argument to a conclusion, you could say that the 'armchair Morton fan' who hasn't actually watched the team in years, is just as big a fan as those who travel faithfully-week in, week out.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 09:01:52
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Feb 18 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]405922[/snapback]
I dont have clue what the score is tbh.
However
I do have 2 tickets left for the Comedy night on the 1st march if anyone is interested.
Jim, Jester took 2 and paddy took 2. Told him ref the deposit for Holland also, i managed to get Andy as well although he lost his fone on the way back from Dundee.
Anyone want to buy a Battleship wink.gif

How many owners-has it been regularly serviced-any rust to look out for.

Oh and can it negotiate up the Cart?
mortonjag 2008-02-18 09:07:05
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 18 2008, 09:02 AM) [snapback]405926[/snapback]
Clearly some of these questions, apart from being utterly irrelevant, have been poorly worded. For example, how many people in the UK own their own house? Are you supposed to give a number? A percentage? What happens if someone buys a house and thus the number changes? How many people could answer the equivalnt questions about their own country of birth?

Clearly WDE intends to support his fiancee and there is no valid reason why he should not be allowed to bring her into the country. The test for entry should be "is this person going to make a positive contribution to society and support themselves, or be supported by someone already resident here?" and if that can be answered "yes" then entry should be allowed. It seems crazy to allow spongers from some parts of the EU whose only reason for being here is to get benefits not available in their home countries. As for the Poles, I haven't met a single one who wan't extremely pleasant and very very hard working - to say they shouldn't be here is just xenophobia pure and simple.

The Poles are operating in a free labour market-like it or not.

I entirely agree with the rest of that comment. I previously tried to highlight that problem and was immediately accused of racism. Our current immigration rules are wishy washy and frequently disadvantage British people of ALL ethnicities.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 09:10:00
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 18 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]405928[/snapback]
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age is just a number wheras immaturity is a way of life!

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mortonjag 2008-02-18 09:12:02
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 18 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]405929[/snapback]
I honestly couldn't care less how he played for Alloa. I'm only interested in how he plays for us, and so far, the majority of the time he has looked disinterested and below par.
I also don't care what position he is playing in, he should be giving his "all" for Morton. No excuses !

No excuses-agreed-but maybe there are REASONS.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 09:14:22
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 17 2008, 06:10 PM) [snapback]405571[/snapback]
All that proves is that there's at least 231,000 gullible people in the world with a computer.

There must be a HELLUVA queue for that keyboard.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 09:15:39
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 17 2008, 06:17 PM) [snapback]405577[/snapback]
The 'Nicholas Parson's dad delivered Margaret Thatcher' urban myth might be true as his dad was indeed a GP in Grantham when she was born.

I'm still skeptical though, I mean, you would have thought he would have remembered the night he delivered a horned, cloven hoofed child from red man holding a fork, wouldn't you?

It's an urban myth. Thatcher was delivered by the vet.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 09:21:56
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 18 2008, 09:17 AM) [snapback]405937[/snapback]
What like spitting the dummy out because he can't play where he wants ? Or being asked to track back and help the defence out ? Or not putting enough effort in at trainng ? Or under-minding the management because he doesn't get his own way ?

Do you know him personally?

What's been clear is that his confidence has been at an all time low. I believe there have been legitimate reasons for that. I also believe he now has an opportunity to prove he's the best footballer in the squad.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 09:34:48
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 18 2008, 09:20 AM) [snapback]405938[/snapback]


You trawled all the way back to this I imagine---
Voyeur and narcissist, or just the full fish supper on your shoulders son?

Time to grow up.

Should that have been


?


As I already stated, I have never consciously ridiculed anyone with a proven diagnosis of a severe personality disorder.

If you continue to 'flog a dead horse' on this Nacho, I might say something like....Afflicted by OCD, or just an argumentative wee boy?

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mortonjag 2008-02-18 09:49:24
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 18 2008, 09:37 AM) [snapback]405950[/snapback]
I typed "narcissist" into the search box and it was the second result... it didn't really take much trawling.

You can weasel around all you want, but the fact is you've been making light of mental health issues for months now. I don't really have a problem with it, but te fact that you're now coming across all high and mighty on this thread goes against the grain.

"I have never consciously ridiculed anyone with a proven diagnosis of a severe personality disorder." aye, well done, that's quite an achievement.

But I imagine anyone with a narcissistic disorder - any takers? - feels fantastic when they read your slagging it off rolleyes.gif

May I suggest then, that you type 'mental health issues' into your wee search box, and produce evidence to prove that assertion.

I find it slightly incongruous that I would 'make light' of something so close to my heart, and an area in which I still give assistance on a voluntary basis.

GENERAL NONSENSE Nacho-an 'anything goes' forum where fun may be poked at almost anything or anybody within the limits of common decency.

...and NO, I was not acting 'high and mighty'. I believe this thread developed an interesting twist, and we had some serious input on Mental Health Issues.

Finally to suggest I was 'slagging off' Narcissism' is a pathetic sleight.

If you think I'm just at the 'wind up' on those matters, by all means p.m. me, and I'll put you straight.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 10:50:43
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 18 2008, 09:59 AM) [snapback]405957[/snapback]
So... by bringing up narcissism to use to slag off someone who doesn't have it (given that you've apparently not ridiculed anyone with a personality disorder) you're not in any way disparaging narcissism?

Aye, whatever rolleyes.gif

And you can forget about the PM as well, I've said my piece.





Thank you for conceding so graciously! Your Procrustean interpretation of what I DID say is puzzling, given that you are clearly an intelligent guy.


I may have many faults, but I am NOT a liar, and I frankly resent your inaccurate assertion

You got it WRONG-I'm not expecting an apology Nacho, but the offer to respond to a p.m. is still open. I have passionate views about Mental Illness and Mental Health Issues, as anybody who knows the real Mortonjag will readily affirm.

In those forums I've also steadfastly promoted the concept of addiction as an illness, and have been supportive of disability in general, citing the fact that my ex-wife suffered for many many years from Multiple Sclerosis.

.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 10:59:26
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 18 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]405955[/snapback]
I would think there will be an interim appointment early this week which will be to the end of the season, I would think depending on what happens between now and then whether or not another contract is offered or we search out another manager.

I think that would be the sensible thing to do.

That's my hope too.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 11:01:43
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 18 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]405966[/snapback]
Feck me!! I got a half pizza supper out of the Orangefield Chippy for the same price last week.

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Do you have a tummy?
mortonjag 2008-02-18 11:03:30
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 18 2008, 09:46 AM) [snapback]405951[/snapback]
The outside wan.

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'ootside'?
mortonjag 2008-02-18 11:04:56
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 18 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]405962[/snapback]
laugh.gif Love those. Cinamon balls are good to.

You MUST have a tummy.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 11:24:50
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 18 2008, 11:16 AM) [snapback]405975[/snapback]
Which way up does a buttered roll fall? And does it make a difference if you butter the top part or the bottom part before you close it up?

Hmm-so many variables there-frankly I'd just pick it up and eat it-the floor's usually quite clean.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 12:06:48
QUOTE(ton1 @ Feb 18 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]405992[/snapback]
That is fair points you make re mortgage etc but as I recall he wasnt really upfront with the club and moved at last minute not giving the ton chance to keep him,thoughwe probably couldnt match his pay.Even on the experience side of things I dont think he is what we need at this time.

It was pretty obvious Collins was well past his best when he left-and Gretna made no secret of him going in a coaching capacity. I don't believe he 'left the club in the lurch' any more than I believe he wouldn't give 100% if he returned.

Anyhow I'd rather have somebody who's cutting the mustard right now-Moore is only one example.

I'd also be happy to settle for Duffy till May, and see how it goes.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 12:41:11
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 18 2008, 12:37 PM) [snapback]406017[/snapback]
On that list of names (dated Feb 15) is Ryan McGuffie.

Whether or not it's to do with drunk driving - and whether or not he's guilty of whatever it is he's up for - is another matter entirely, so I don't think it's right to hang the guy just yet.

So when should we hang him?

You're spot on-innocent until proven guilty.

Only after the court case-if indeed one of our players is facing any charge-will full details be available.

Then the hawks and doves can do their separate business.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 12:43:44
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 18 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]406010[/snapback]
Weatherson at East End Park?

Similar -both had vision, but if you recall, Williams played almost a sand wedge chip from just outside the box, on a wet and slippy pitch, leaving the goalie stranded..
mortonjag 2008-02-18 12:48:32
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 18 2008, 12:28 PM) [snapback]406007[/snapback]
Wouldn't there be a case though for saying, if we are to appoint the strong and experienced manager that people seem pretty united in believing we need, then giving him until the end of the season would send out the wrong message, maybe undermine his authority a little? I'd much rather we appoint a strong manager, with a track record, and give him the full confidence of say a 2/3 year deal to do his thing. I understand there's an obvious gamble involved, but I think the top managers seem to operate at their best when they have complete authority.

For example, take the difference in Man Utd a few years back when Ferguson announced he was leaving at the end of the season...

Yes- but after the probationary period. I can't see the problem-it cuts both ways-if he feels comfortable, he'll work his balls off for a longer contract-if not he can leave at the end of the season. Similarly it's in the interests of the Board to get the best out of him-if they can't they can ditch him.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 12:49:50 tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-18 12:54:24
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 18 2008, 12:33 PM) [snapback]406014[/snapback]
Haven't we all??

Nope weegie-we all-well all except those who have had a gastrectomy, have a 'stomach'. A tummy is something different in my book. People who enjoy deep fried pizza, chips, and sweeties frequently, but not always. have a 'tummy'

I do hope I have not caused offence to anyone with anorexia/bulimia BTW! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-18 12:56:38
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 18 2008, 12:42 PM) [snapback]406021[/snapback]
You might be right I cant remember

I think its the employers who are bringing in cheap labour thats the problem not the polish , At the end of the day they are just earning a living . I pay my polish staff the same as everyone else (I would actually pay them more as they are that good) Hope they dont read this lol

There are too many dodgy companies paying them cash in hand and below the minimum wage or charging them a fortune for Room and board and taking it from there wages .

I think the real problem is Romanians as they are flocking to this country just now - All you see up here selling Big Issue Roses and glow sticks etc on the street begging etc . Immigration should be limited to people who offer a skill or trade and will add to the country not just rip the piss out of benifits

I agree with that in general.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 12:57:39
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 18 2008, 12:46 PM) [snapback]406025[/snapback]
Morton should sign a polish player to bring some of these new Greenockians to the club. Capitalise on the situation smile.gif

I'd be quite happy with a couple of polished players.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 13:37:26
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 18 2008, 12:58 PM) [snapback]406031[/snapback]
There was an interview a while back with Paul Jewell, who had a tough time laying down the law in his early days at Wigan, and when his patience was near an end, and he became more strict, Derek Stillie (ex-Dundee Utd) told him that he can do what he likes, but that they (the players) would outlive Jewell's tenure anyway. I think a problem like that perhaps emerged at the tail end of McCormack's reign. Now, it is probably the case that the squad at present are much more professional than that, but I think it's an example that without complete authority, the manager might work his balls off but be undermined elsewhere.

It's a gamble whatever way really. I'm hoping that most of the current squad see themselves as first division players with Morton next season.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 14:12:52
QUOTE(RankinBorn75 @ Feb 18 2008, 02:06 PM) [snapback]406054[/snapback]
I wonder if the Gretna fan was so keen to see our Club in Crisis ?

Doubt it-they have nothing to begrudge.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 14:14:50
QUOTE(HamCam @ Feb 18 2008, 02:02 PM) [snapback]406053[/snapback]
Agree with you on the much quoted top 3 but have reservations over JR. Met him on a number of occasions and a very nice man he is but has some well publised personal issues that have previously impacted on his ability to focus on the job in hand.
Please not Moore how can you have faith in a guy who looks like Gollum and believes the height of fashion is tucking your jumper inside your trousers.

As for who it should be I do not have a scooby but have absolute faith that DDFR will pull a rabbit from the hat and we will all be singing his praises come Saturday.

Again?
mortonjag 2008-02-18 14:53:19
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 18 2008, 02:41 PM) [snapback]406076[/snapback]
Good point MJ. I bow to your superior knowledge yet again. Anyway to answer your earlier question, yes i do have a bit of a tummy, but i am eating more sensibly again and trying to start a fitness regime after a few lax years.

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The old battle of the bulge eh!
mortonjag 2008-02-18 15:59:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 18 2008, 02:57 PM) [snapback]406081[/snapback]
a doctor who can't spell Bulimia? ohmy.gif

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HIIIIII EVERYBODY!

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It wasn't a deliberate mistake anyway!

...and I've edited to save further embarrassment. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-18 16:10:14
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Feb 18 2008, 02:59 PM) [snapback]406084[/snapback]
that is in fact a rather poor example MJ. The difference being that many musicians, or "pop stars" as you call them, come out with some of their finest work while harbouring drink and drug problems. I am not saying that its the drugs that make them good, more just that their choices of recreational substances do not have as adverse an effect on their work as they would in say, a professional athlete.

Puggs was talking about people throwing away talent. I cited the example of POP STARS. Nowhere did I comment on the heightening or dampening of artistic ability by recreational drugs.

I was merely indicating that historically numerous pop stars have either died prematurely, committed suicide, or ruined promising careers, and I was talking in the context in which Puggs introduced the subject.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 16:16:36
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Feb 18 2008, 04:01 PM) [snapback]406124[/snapback]
I think it was just to prove it could be done - it was always about the journey to the SPL, as once they got there Mileson's money alone was not going to be enough to make an impression and the lack of stadium and fans was going to be a problem. I think most people thought it was always likely to end in tears.

Most people eventually came to that realisation at different stages. Initially, on this forum at least, those who pointed out the stupidity of Mileson's ploy were ridiculed.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 06:00:12
QUOTE(C B @ Feb 18 2008, 06:01 PM) [snapback]406226[/snapback]
I dunno, at least a half eaten frog is bigger than Robinson and has more presence between the sticks !?

I think the important use of the word "uself" is the ELF, clearly a reference to Robinsons vertically challenged condition! biggrin.gif

Yo negativity boys are never happy!

Why don't you talk about a half uneaten frog? sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-19 06:06:01
QUOTE(C B @ Feb 18 2008, 05:52 PM) [snapback]406215[/snapback]
I was talking to a guy who works for me today, he doesnt really know anything about Morton, cept that I support them, he asked me who the guy with Senile Dementia was representing us on the radio on Saturday ???? blink.gif

Are you being serious CB?
mortonjag 2008-02-19 06:21:48
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Feb 18 2008, 10:14 PM) [snapback]406418[/snapback]
I thought so too but didn't a few 'in the know' (using that very openly) people say that this one was legally binding?

As far as I understand, all contracts or agreements-even made verbally, are legally binding under Scottish law.

In other words, there is no way we can keep Midge unless St. Johnstone agree.
The main difference from a full contract is that there is much more scope for further negotiation IF both parties agree.

If Midge had actually signed , say, a two year contract, and was scoring goals etc., etc., St Johnstone would want compensation built on losing two years of his services and so on.

At the moment They might agree to release him from his obligation for a relatively small consideration.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 06:29:13
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Feb 18 2008, 10:54 PM) [snapback]406451[/snapback]
Craig Brown was aparently down at the Golden casket this evening

Craig's always had a reputation for picking up wee sweeties.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 06:34:25
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Feb 18 2008, 08:52 PM) [snapback]406348[/snapback]
McGuffie is innocent until proven guilty whereas Jay Shields was sacked with the backing of most on here for being charged for arguably a lesser offence.

Indeed, and both are presumed innocent until proven guilty.

Dual morality is not, of course, a stranger to the inner sanctum at Cappielow.

IMHO Shields' departure coincided very conveniently with the 'casting off' process.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 06:47:12
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Feb 18 2008, 10:55 PM) [snapback]406452[/snapback]
Tonight i spoke to Dougie at the airport.He was on the Exeter flight tonight with his wife and i asked him straight out if we had a manager in place yet.

His answer was (and i quote)

"The new manager has been appointed but will not be announced till Wednesday as he has some personal matters to attend"

On being asked if it was david irons or jim Duffy his reply was...

"if thats what you think then fine but you will be pleasantly surprised on the choice.He has good expeirence and will be an asset for years to come to Morton"

Didnt want to push it any further but even Andy Bryan doesnt know as he asked Dougie on the phone while we were chatting and dougie said he will be told on Wednesday not before.

This is just to hush hush for a Duffy or Irons. Something tells me it could be Lubo Moravcik!



Full credit to Mr Rae for consistency. He's already decided we have to be pleasantly surprised, and after JM whom, you recall, he heralded with trumpets blaring, it's reassuring to know that we will now have an asset for years to come-nay, an experienced asset.

Ha ha-it's rumour time-he's signed Allan Moore!
mortonjag 2008-02-19 06:49:38
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 18 2008, 04:39 PM) [snapback]406151[/snapback]
What is a contiuum? A yummy p***y? blink.gif

I like your flower.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 06:54:02
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Feb 18 2008, 10:38 PM) [snapback]406440[/snapback]
Why is orange Jam called Marmalade?

According to the Oxford English Dictionary, "marmalade" appeared in English in 1480, borrowed from French marmelade which, in turn, came from the Portuguese marmelada. Originally, according to the root of the word, which is marmelo or quince, a preserve made from quinces was intended. Marmelada is a compound of the word marmelo (quince), that derives from Latin melimelum, “honey apple†(Klein’s Comprehensive Etymological Dictionary of the English Language).[1] According to José Pedro Machado’s “Dicionário Etimológico da Língua Portuguesa†(Etymological Dictionary of the Portuguese Language), the oldest known document where this word is to be found is Gil Vicente’s play Comédia de Rubena, written in 1521
mortonjag 2008-02-19 07:09:37
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 18 2008, 05:26 PM) [snapback]406192[/snapback]
Whats so s**t about it?

That I object to the amount of asylum seekers and false claimants that have got a grip on our economy? Its got so bad the government finally capped Romania and Bulgarians comming in after the influx of other Eastern Europeans.

Asylum seekers are queuing up in France to come in here due to our lax policies and get your money easy regieme. I do not object to the people or their race, i'll live and drink with any creed or race if they are here legit, but yes, i do object to the abuse of our economy.

Do you not object to the amount of money thats being claimed for family allowance thats being sent to other countries when the kids dont live here? Over £5m last year alone.

Do you not object that our health service is being used by others when it suits them then they head back across the channel. Figures released for mothers from other shores have drained our NHS by a further £7m.
There are plenty of other examples of this abuse.

Yet our local authorities get capped on spending and our council taxes rise year on year. Try and get the local lampost fixed when the bulb blows, try and get your street fixed when its covered in pot holes. Our schools being merged because councils can no longer afford to keep them open and they have to go cap in hand via the PPP route.

If im classed a racist by saying yes I object to the system, then yes, i must be. Maybe im just a realist who's fed up with PC and paying the higher rate of PAYE to supplement bums!

It's not new either, and let me say firstly that you can't blame those folk for coming here. Hopefully that will prevent me from being called a racist again.

It has now reached epidemic proportions Scotsguy, and nobody is to blame but the pond life which runs our country on the back of a spineless PC indoctrinated public.

It's only when it really hits you that you fully realise the magnitude of what's happening. I sometimes wonder if the only element of our economy which has benefited deals in prams and baby foods.

The Poles-entirely different in my experience-good work ethic-something we used to be proud of in this country.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 07:11:36
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Feb 18 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]406229[/snapback]
Give us a genuine source to back this s***e up. And not rumours from the daily mail.

The NHS has suffered a HUGE extra burden on account of recent immigration policy-FACT.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 07:19:55
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 18 2008, 11:41 PM) [snapback]406498[/snapback]
I see far more Scottish beggars than foreign beggars.

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Try walking for a mile down Kilmarnock road from Shawlands Cross then!

Even the original big issue sellers have been ousted by families of Romanians who take turns at the same pitch.

Meanwhile, half a mile away in Lidl's there are four Poles, working their baws off and possibly not taking home any more.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 07:24:31
QUOTE(The Shuffler @ Feb 19 2008, 07:19 AM) [snapback]406563[/snapback]
Smarta**e tongue.gif

Not really-I just wish others would do the work, but I've always had a thirst for knowledge, and a willingness to educate those who are wise enough to listen! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-19 07:26:29
QUOTE(mentalton @ Feb 18 2008, 09:49 PM) [snapback]406389[/snapback]
How do you get Dougie Rae out of a dressing room on a Saturday afternoon.

Tell him the May Hughes girls are dancing to 'Life is life'.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 08:01:14
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 19 2008, 07:45 AM) [snapback]406568[/snapback]
Ha ha-it's rumour time-he's signed Allan Moore!
Would you believe Roger Moore ??

VERY experienced

He and DDFR may be the same vintage.

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We would NEVER sign a saint!
mortonjag 2008-02-19 08:13:15 "if thats what you think then fine but you will be pleasantly surprised on the choice. He has good expeirence and will be an asset for years to come to Morton"

As stated to Flight Ton by Mr Rae.

Oh well, it looks like we're going to have to wait for another 24 hours at least before the unveiling of our new manager. Firstly, it looks like he's given somebody a long term contract. The Board must be heavily impressed by their catch.

He has good experience-well that could mean anything, but SHOULD mean he's been in the managerial business for a fair few years.

He WILL be an asset for years to come. Fantastic-SPL here we come!

Most of all, WE will be pleasantly surprised-that would suggest it's not one of the rumoured candidates!

Ladies and gentlemen-I give you






































Sir Alf Ramsey--wait-is he no deid?



mortonjag 2008-02-19 08:37:39
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 18 2008, 01:00 PM) [snapback]406034[/snapback]
They should turn it into a gentleman's club. Not the sort that has floozies stripping off in a vulgar fashion but one where a gentleman can go and relax with a G&T whilst reading the quality press.
A strict dress code would apply obviously and anyone wearing gym kit would be banned. Women would also be welcomed however a strict 'no trouser' policy would apply.
In reality they'll build identikit flats that will attract tossers who earn too much.

Alternatively Mr McArthur, they could just fill the space with big cardboard boxes instead, and the DSS would happily fill them with dossers who earn f*ck all.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 08:41:05
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 19 2008, 08:25 AM) [snapback]406575[/snapback]
Who ever was in charge of Gretna this season was on to a hiding to nothing, Alex Ferguson wouldn't have kept them in the SPL.
I'm more than happy with Davie Irons, I just hope the rest of the fans can back him and Collins (if they are indeed appointed) give them time and most of all start getting right behind the team.

So you reckon the 'pleasantly surprised' bit refers to Collins coming back home?
mortonjag 2008-02-19 08:46:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 19 2008, 08:43 AM) [snapback]406583[/snapback]
Looks as though we're picking at the bones of the nearly departed Gretna.

If so it's a welcome pay back time DE, though I'd be cautious about any Sun exclusive, and Rae did talk about the new Manager-singular.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 08:59:03
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 19 2008, 08:45 AM) [snapback]406585[/snapback]
if people started an all straight team that gays werent allowed in then there would be outrage! i want equal rights as the gays!!!! mad.gif

I don't think they couldn't stop a straight player from asking for a trial, but he might find it difficult to fit in.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 09:00:40
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 19 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]406591[/snapback]
I don't have a clue how DDF perceives things but I'm not unhappy at Collins coming back, in fact I would take Frank McGarvie & Jim Dick if I thought they would do a job for us.

I'd take Dick Campbell if I KNEW he would do a good job for us! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-19 09:01:51
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Feb 19 2008, 08:59 AM) [snapback]406595[/snapback]
I could not care less who comes in right now provided it is someone who has the will and ability to take us forward. There is one thing for sure irons is a passionate guy who wants to win, he is animated and has tried his hardest to save gretna but quite clearly is not happy with the current situation and is prepared to take on a more realistic challenge rather than a manufactured x factor winner of a play toy, i think he can do well and i for 1 would be happy with irons and collins as they are young and are wanting success i just hope we can provide that so at the end of the day i will be fully behind who ever comes in

The new age Rooney and Jackson!
mortonjag 2008-02-19 09:03:57
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Feb 19 2008, 08:59 AM) [snapback]406596[/snapback]
i bet its crawford rae lol

I don't think so, but what does worry me is all the speculation about Irons and Collins.

The actual wording of Dougie's comment still makes me wonder if he's about to produce a wild card.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 09:15:56
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Feb 19 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]406603[/snapback]
It is definately Davie Irons!

Just heard this morning.

And no, I won't name my source!

Alas poor Gretna! GIRUM

Well that's it settled then.

Bring on St Johnstone-boo boys GTF.


WE HAVE LIFT OFF! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-19 09:17:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 19 2008, 09:07 AM) [snapback]406602[/snapback]
mortonjag dissnae luv me any more.

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He thinks I made this up.

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GRETNA have confirmed they have been unable to pay players and staff due to club owner Brooks Mileson's continued hospitalisation.

The 59-year-old has bankrolled the tiny Dumfriesshire outfit's progress to the Clydesdale Bank Premier League from the Third Division. However, Mileson collapsed last week and is still undergoing tests at a Newcastle hospital to establish the cause of the problem.

"We can confirm that players and staff were issued with a notice from our human resources department to tell them that due to Brooks Mileson being in hospital, normal procedures had not been taken and they could not be paid on time," said a club spokesman.

You misunderstood my comment-it was directed at them-not you! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-19 10:21:54
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Feb 19 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]406633[/snapback]
Think you need to have words with Dougie, knowing him since you were 4 and he bulls***s you like that. tongue.gif

Now if only it had been cabin crew! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-19 10:23:04
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 19 2008, 10:07 AM) [snapback]406624[/snapback]
That sounds like a bad toilet cleaner laugh.gif

Buffy ludo-tremendous fun!
mortonjag 2008-02-19 10:26:44 `I will personally be grateful if we can all now close ranks and give Dave and Derek a wonderful welcome on Saturday coupled with a typical Morton support for the team.


So will we Shoogly-I take it that's a veiled apology to the home fans.

I suppose anything's better than nothing.

C'MON YE TON.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 10:30:14
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Feb 19 2008, 09:23 AM) [snapback]406609[/snapback]
Andf a huge influx of foregn medical staff to help deal with it. Both are facts and I accept both. Do you?

Yes-to 'help'.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 10:31:13
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 19 2008, 09:53 AM) [snapback]406617[/snapback]
ohmy.gif ohmy.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif ohmy.gif Cunny funt. tongue.gif

He thinks you're a pufe Weegie! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-19 10:33:05
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Feb 19 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]406630[/snapback]
would it then not be a c***inum

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mortonjag 2008-02-19 10:34:12 Maybe JM and MC will now take the Gretna vacancy and surprise us all!
mortonjag 2008-02-19 12:23:04
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 19 2008, 12:04 PM) [snapback]406744[/snapback]
And you think that's funny?? Muz better watch out tongue.gif

It's what I KNOW that makes it funny! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-19 12:26:56 I'd forget any 'parachute payment' until we see what happens. The wages were not paid-excuses about Mileson being in hospital etc., are excuses.They could end up in administration very soon.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 12:28:44
QUOTE(Torro @ Feb 19 2008, 10:38 AM) [snapback]406661[/snapback]
Let it go , you,ll be boiling bunnies next rolleyes.gif

Let what go bully boy?

Nothing wrong with rabbit stew.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 12:32:30
QUOTE(Dougie @ Feb 19 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]406743[/snapback]
I aint been to a game since boxing day as I was sick of standing arguing with happy clappers every week who insisted I should not shout at Jim and co. On Saturday I will be back and I will be their to encourage the team and the new managerial regime.

Toby and me are good mates and I will leave him to defend his own corner cause he is a big enough boy to do it. Knowing Gerry I know that he could not give a f£$% what you write on this board in fact you are probably encouraging him by calling him a bam!

What I will say on the matter though is that a certain chairman of a certain first division football club should take a long hard look at himself over this whole situation. There needs to be a bit of give and old Raemanov is partly to blame for developing a siege mentality between the club and the fans. Yes the players are getting caught in the cross fire and this may not be fair, however perhaps its time for their employer to stick his head above the parapit as I beleive he is a major cause of the tensions amongst Morton supporters. Him and the demon drink of course!!!!

He has suggested we all 'pull together now'.

I think that's as close as you'll ever get to an apology from the Chairman. Hopefully this new appointment signals a genuine improvement in matters down Scapa way.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 12:34:07
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Feb 19 2008, 12:28 PM) [snapback]406761[/snapback]
Thing is to remember the difference between Administration and going out of business. Gretna could continue to run as a business in administration although it would probably die a death as I can't see it being attractive as a going concern. Anyone fancy a new flat at Raydale Gardens?

You conniving B Ratarse-I bet you had this planned for months.

When do the founds go down BTW? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-19 12:40:15 Morton 2-St Johnstone 1

Scorers Jenkins and LEAFY! smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-19 13:16:07
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Feb 19 2008, 12:56 PM) [snapback]406781[/snapback]
It wisnae me Mr, honest. It was that Alibi, he's got to recoup his cash owed somehow!! He's Mr Landlord afterall. laugh.gif

True, but I thought Alibi likes Mr Mileson! Maybe he'll forego the creditors' meeting. laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-19 13:21:28 I think fortune has smiled on the club-well in a sort of way. Our nadir coincided with Gretna's and we've jumped in there.

Credit is still due to the Board, and to Mr Rae in particular. I sense he has been relatively prudent on this occasion.

I can't think of any reason not to be positive at the moment. A top five place is STILL possible.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 13:23:59
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 19 2008, 12:41 PM) [snapback]406772[/snapback]
ohmy.gif huh.gif huh.gif WTF you on about?

I'm on about what I KNOW about you, you daftie! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-19 13:27:01
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 19 2008, 01:23 PM) [snapback]406811[/snapback]
A message to all the negativity boys "From your leader"

I agree with the credit is due bit tho

You are a cheeky boy-I was never one of the negativity boys-I always tried to be optimistic about forthcoming games, and I've always given the players my full support.

I have been an arch critic of JM and of The Chairman. My criticism was positive.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 13:28:40
QUOTE(centralTON @ Feb 19 2008, 01:27 PM) [snapback]406821[/snapback]
Is that with reference to the hen night video. wink.gif

Don't be vulgar-Mr Rae gave that up weeks ago.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 13:33:27
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 19 2008, 12:39 PM) [snapback]406767[/snapback]
A veiled apology for a veiled dig?

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mortonjag 2008-02-19 14:40:24
QUOTE(suda @ Feb 19 2008, 01:37 PM) [snapback]406835[/snapback]
and relentless and over the top but it's nice to hear you've changed your tune for 5 minutes anyway

You are entitled to your opinion, and your cynicism.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 14:41:50
QUOTE(tontric @ Feb 19 2008, 02:22 PM) [snapback]406861[/snapback]
Glad to hear you giving Mr Rae a break. Others on here should take your lead and get off peoples back. Now is the time for us all to unite and move forward.

I'd be interested to know the views on the appointment from the guys that have been getting stick on here over the last week, e.g Toby. I really hope they will view this as a fresh start.

I always said I'd give credit where due. I believe the appointment will be much more successful than the last.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 14:42:30
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Feb 19 2008, 02:23 PM) [snapback]406862[/snapback]
Perhaps the most critical question is this, whatever will become of McInally's Mole?

Irons informer.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 15:54:21
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Feb 19 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]406973[/snapback]
I didn't think Duechar would come here anyway as he is a GP and wants to be part time?

Having just typed that I wondered how he gets away with it at Gretna - maybe I is talking s***e?

He's still a junior doctor I believe, MT, and works sessions at Wishaw Hospital. He will have signed a six monrh contrat from 1st February to do a fixed number-he can't change that. As he already manages to play for Gretna, I guess he could come here IF he wanted to.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 15:57:34 I's a wee bit daft to get upset over the management selection. Only time will tell how well ANYBODY fits into a given situation. Irons may not have been my first choice, but he certainly wasn't my last, and with potential relegation looming, this IS a time to get behind the management and players.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 16:00:18 Either Smith or Jenkins.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 16:08:38
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 19 2008, 04:00 PM) [snapback]406996[/snapback]
IT WAS BROOK'S MONEY THAT LEAD GRETNA TO THE SPL.

personally i dont believe it was Brook's money that lead them to the SPL but people cant stop and use that argument when they want and then discard it when theyre trying to make a different point.

either gretna went through the leagues fair and square and for the benifit of mortonjag didnt ' cheat ' us into winning the 2nd division.

ive had arguments with plenty of people on here about how much money a team spent to win the league being nothing new just because its in the lower leagues.

Gretna got through the leagues because of the people in charge, i just have a different view on who the main persons influence on them winning was.

You're having a bad hair day!

Anyway let's get this straight once and for all-it was primarily Mileson's money which saw the rapid rise of his 'folly'.

He put so much between Gretna and everybody else in terms of player quality, wages, and bonuses, that a Muppet could have managed them to success

That's not to say that Irons and Alexander didn't have a little input!

It's also pretty well accepted that Ro was the front man who dealt with Pony Tail and signed the squad, while Davie Irons was working away behind the scenes.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 06:39:53
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 19 2008, 04:23 PM) [snapback]407025[/snapback]
That wasn't poetry. That's 'Kansas City' with word changes. Jeezo, I thought you were a cultured fellow.

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Probaby Mr Edwards, but the younger posters keep telling me Pop Stars are musicians!

I was rather proud of my use of zeugma in the third and fourth lines.

Anyway, the Limerick is my 'stock in trade'.

Are you going to Saturday's 'fair'?
The Norseman at three will be bare.
There'll be Collins and Irons
and Shoogly and sirens
His speech will be fine I declare.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 06:44:28
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 19 2008, 04:10 PM) [snapback]407006[/snapback]
The MOBO's do not discriminate at all. Joss Stone won one last year. She's white.

The idea of this is to get gay men interested in playing football. It's obviously something that a gay guy might shy away from and if he feels more comfortable playing in a team where he's not gonna have to take constant abuse then fair play to them.

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mortonjag 2008-02-20 06:49:47
QUOTE(leyTON @ Feb 19 2008, 10:20 PM) [snapback]407287[/snapback]
yes you are a racist in my view
some of the words you are using are echoes of garbage being sputed from editorials all over the country
drained by mothers? what are we supposed to do let them have their baby in their house?
false claimants? there are plenty homegrown false claimants but yet you dont seem to mind them? should they get booted out?
total double standards - id wager you either read the sun or the mail. if its the sun then its owned by a foreigner not paying taxes, so not contributing to the economy
you hear celtic fans moaning about a ban on polish workers, and people who cant speak english, yet they dont mind boruc and nakamura

Well he's not a racist in mine-nothing he's stated is substantially untrue, and one of the easiest and cruellest counter attacks when you don't like hearing the truth is to pull out the 'racist' card.

Frankly you should be ashamed of yourself. You clearly haven't a clue about the real issues, yet feel at liberty to accuse Scotsguy of stealing his information from the press. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-20 06:55:16 I take Toby's line-there are plenty of people dying every day through no fault of their own-goodness it's perfectly possible that there may have been a few Gretna fans on the verge of suicide recently. People ARE responsible for their actions.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 07:02:48
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 19 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]407047[/snapback]
Firstly, I suspect you are all being a bit previous with all this talk about administration. I am well aware that financially Gretna are not exactly well organised to put it mildly, but I tend to think that the business of players not getting paid is likely to be for the reasons claimed. They may be doing badly on the pitch but that hasn't really affected their finances to any great extent as they knew their crowds would be low. I have a suspicion that some of their apparent cash flow problems stem from money owed to them by other clubs - you guess which ones, but I have been told at least 4 names of clubs who owe them money.

Secondly yes, I do like Brookes. He comes across as a decent bloke and whilst it is possible I am misjudging him, I have dealt with a few crooked types in my time, people who tried to rip you off at every turn, and I don't think he's one of them. Hugh_Scott he is not. I for one wish him a speedy recovery and the willpower to give up smoking.

I my experience the true 'con men' are always likeable.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 07:05:52
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 19 2008, 09:50 PM) [snapback]407269[/snapback]
Not looking good for any long term survival of the club at the present level . With not exactly a huge support to rely on financially .

So much for living the dream , problem is we all have to live in the real world . Even if they stave off going belly up they will be favourites to get relegated next season .

Nothing like hedging your bets Chris-they're well and truly f*cked, and F*ck them!
mortonjag 2008-02-20 07:12:19 I think it's a 'good and safe appointment' in terms of staying in Division 1, and that's all that matters right now.

Longer term, I haven't a clue. Only time will tell.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 07:16:02
QUOTE(JANTON1 @ Feb 19 2008, 05:11 PM) [snapback]407077[/snapback]
reading through some of this garbage makes me wonder why anyone in their right mind would want to take this job anyway. Davie Irons better watch out for the vultures circulating over Cappielow just willing him to fail.

Lets try something new on this board.......ENCOURAGEMENT !!

I think this is a good appointment. Lets give the guy a bit of help to avoid relegation by actually being on his side !!

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Don't be silly-they're just miffed because their favourites didn't get the job!
mortonjag 2008-02-20 07:22:19
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 19 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]407140[/snapback]
Not the experienced manager we were hoping for or expected, unless you count six months of witnessing your team getting pumped every week in the SPL as experience; and Derek Collins, Mr Morton for the G-Star RAW generation, his leadership qualities and skills never exactly came to the fore in 2003/4 season when the players conspired to throw away a 16 point lead at christmas time, or the time when McCormack supposedly lost the Dressing Room. dry.gif

However, it is a total masterstroke by our esteemed chairman. He has managed to demonstrate a complete lack of foresight and ambition AND pacify the majority of the supporters at the same time. Utter Genius, no wonder he has a few million in the bank.


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You can fool SOME of the people ALL of the time, You can fool ALL the people SOME of the time....

BUT YOU CANNOT FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL OF THE TIME.

The only foresight and ambition I have right now is to stay in this f*cking first division. We'll have a good idea by May how things are panning out.

I WILL say, however, that if Irons has been given a long term contract, I'd regard that as crass stupidity.

Something else that strikes me about Irons as distinct from JM is that he's quite a bright bloke, and certainly capable of out thinking the Chairman. Maybe he is the man we need after all. Somebody who can make Mr Rae THINK he's in charge! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-20 07:29:04 RUSTY Irons, and Joan.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 09:00:23
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 20 2008, 08:31 AM) [snapback]407378[/snapback]
I'd second that. I've not been at many games this season due to work and ice hockey but survival has to be the only priority for the rest of this season. If that is achieved then we can take it from there.
It struck me yesterday that Rae has a poor history of appointing managers, let's hope he's got it right this time. That's all I'm saying on the appointment but would add that the Gretna 'experiment' was one of the most shocking things ever allowed to happen by the football authorities (a child could have told you that balance sheets are what matters in any business) and the possibility of becoming a Gretna B team holds nothing for me.

Totally agree with that. I had no objection to 'wee' Gretna being in the third division and seeing what they could achieve on their own. I cannot believe the authorities had the stupidity to allow ground sharing. Everybody with any commercial sense wanted St Johnstone in the SPL-FFS they missed it by ONE minute, yet too many fools seemed to have bought into 'living the dream'.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 10:15:59 Anything which adds to the strength of the squad and competition for places is welcome IMO.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 10:18:54
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Feb 20 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]407382[/snapback]
He works in my building, probably walked past him a hundred times. I'll track him down and grill him tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-02-20 10:27:49 The curiosity element always hauls out the armchair fans, and the OF are not playing either. St Johnstone just beat Hamilton-they will bring a fair few.

Hopefully the 'feel good' factor is back. I'm predicting a crowd just over 4000!

C'MON YE TON
mortonjag 2008-02-20 10:35:45
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 20 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]407399[/snapback]
Did he not only start chain smoking when he found out he had MS?

Haven't a clue Boozy, and he doesn't have MS, but ME which is very different. Furthermore he makes no secret of the fact that he deliberately neglects a decent diet and exercise.

I believe old Brooksy is an archetypal chancer. I remember a bit in one of the English broadsheets about his early days, when he acted as a 'heavy' for a money lending crowd.

After that we had stuff about being a 'Born Again Christian', etc., etc., etc.!!!

Not much charity in your staff going home without their wages! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-20 10:38:54
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 20 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]407406[/snapback]
I doubt we will break the 3000 mark.

Never happier than when you're havin' a good old moan eh? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

BTW do you think Mr Rae will be doing his speech?
mortonjag 2008-02-20 10:41:08
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Feb 19 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]407281[/snapback]
Bollocks, they were at it for ages in the 1st 20 mins of the game, still, good result all the same and another wonder goal from Gerard, wish we had his stature at Scappa rolleyes.gif

Not sure about a statue Gibby, but you could buy a brick for the wall!
mortonjag 2008-02-20 10:51:15
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 20 2008, 10:41 AM) [snapback]407409[/snapback]
Certainly not moaning, I'm delighted with the management appointment, I think we will get a result on Saturday I just don't think many of my fellow Morton fans are as optimistic as me.

Onwards and upwards

edit to add - any speech will be short and sweet, as in ''a big welcome to Davie and Derek, I hope you all get right behind them''.
I'll also be happy with that. tongue.gif

Onward and upward indeed then! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-20 14:57:09
QUOTE(leyTON @ Feb 20 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]407446[/snapback]
no, beacuse we are qall part of the same country, thus they are not people from another country as such.
how are his views biased, he is clearly anit immigration
people like yourself cannot and will not be persuaded by common sense, nor will i be swept up into this hysteria about immigration as i dont belive it has a negative impact on the economy. i take your point on people not working, but to me workshy people who live in this country and blame immigrants are just as bad

He is clearly in favour of immigration control LeyTON-that is NOT anti immigration, and certainly not racist.

It's also unfair to lump 'the workshy people who live in this country' along with those who have just arrived. Many who are using our benefits syystem currently, have previously made contributions, or have friends and family who are still making contributions.

The fact is that we have allowed ourselves to become a dumping ground in many cases. The Poles are an obvious exception. My son employs Polish labour, some of whom I kow personally, and I can assure you that those very Poles can see the vast difference between their way of life and work ethic, and those of more recent entrants to this country.

Furthermore I know several second and third generation Asian Scots who are disgusted by the present situation and who are crying out for some kind of immigration control.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 15:02:45
QUOTE(Capuan @ Feb 20 2008, 12:58 PM) [snapback]407460[/snapback]
Agreed, it was never ever going to be sustainable in the long term. However there financial position has much worsened since they reached the SPL. Had they been in the 1st division the financial strain would have been significantly less and they would not be staring at the same mass exodus. Eventaully it still may have happened but the SPL has significantly hastened their impending disaster.

Seems the SPL DO get something right then! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-20 15:06:22 There's nothing in that report you couldn't have predicted. Survival is the priority. Interestingly contracts have still to be signed, and I hope they are short term in the first instance.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 15:14:13
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 20 2008, 02:54 PM) [snapback]407510[/snapback]
I think Gr£tna have enough problems without a costly legal battle for compensation .

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

It would be amusing to see them looking for compensation in terms of a 'five year rolling contract'. If they're still here in five months, I doubt if Mileson will still be involved!
mortonjag 2008-02-20 15:16:51
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Feb 20 2008, 03:14 PM) [snapback]407518[/snapback]
David Bowie
Frank Zappa
Bob Dylan

Caruso
Pavarotti
Celine Dion
mortonjag 2008-02-20 15:22:06
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 20 2008, 03:17 PM) [snapback]407525[/snapback]
emergency loans are at the discretion of the SFL board

Are there no upper or lower limits-can we get as many as we want-what consitutes an 'emergency'-does the SFL Board do 'sweeteners'-will Hamilton object-etc., etc.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 16:22:27
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 20 2008, 04:05 PM) [snapback]407542[/snapback]
Super Ro won't find it so funny if Gretna goes to the wall . It is obvious Mileson is keeping them going how long can he remain incharge while being so ill.

It would seem to the outside viewer that Brooks does not trust anyone else to keep up with throwing money away on his dream .

Well, even at this stage in the game, he's apparently personally bankrolling the wages bill to the tune of about 1.5 million per annum. That's enough to make anybody ill, especially when the other bills are apparently just mounting up, and he's lost his management team. 'Livin' the nightmare'!! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-20 16:34:41
QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Feb 20 2008, 04:29 PM) [snapback]407546[/snapback]
couple of seasons ago... ian dowie resigned as manager of crystal palace to take over at charlton a couple of days later

the palace chairman sued dowie for breach of contract...

can't anything happening with us because the cannot ask for money off us if they fail themselves to pay collins & irons contracts up to date before departure.

and by reading the paper today
its looking like brooks doesn't have long left
as the game between rangers & gretna on sunday may be called off incase brooks dies before then and probably
wages for the second week running will not be paid.

I don't understand. They're planning to call off an SPL fixture 'in case he dies'!!!

FFS I hope he doesn't remain on the critical list till the end of the season! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-20 17:09:15
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 20 2008, 04:43 PM) [snapback]407557[/snapback]
Ah, but the UK has sufficient sums to pump £100 billion into Northern Rock, the banking equivalent of Gretna, not forgetting the multiple billions spent on Iraq the computerising of the NHS, the ID card scheme...
We can afford any cost of immigration - which is irrelevent as immigrants are contributing a net surplus to the economy and filling vital skilled and unskilled vacancies.
Immigration control cannot be successful - there are far too many ways to avoid the system.
All it would lead to would be the new migrants entering illegally and contributing nothing to the tax system.
Let the new Volkswanderung happen in a economically beneficial way.

You speak from books my child. Time to open your eyes.

Why, in any case, should the 'economy' be the yardstick-not that I believe for one minute that global immigration generates a net surplus.

Radix malorum est cupiditas.

And while I'm on quotations-'Lies, damned lies, and statistics'.

'We can afford any cost of immigration' you claim. No we cannot-neither fiscally, nor socially.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 17:12:34
QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Feb 20 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]407552[/snapback]
think it was back page of record unsure.gif

I'm not disputing what you've said. It just seems crazy to do anything 'in case someone dies'. Knowing good old Brooksy, he'll bounce back!
mortonjag 2008-02-20 17:13:49
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Feb 20 2008, 04:58 PM) [snapback]407566[/snapback]
I understand that, I thought it was because of the (12) fans and stuff.

Feeling bad for Brooks I can understand.

Down to ten apparently.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 17:16:19 Don't worry, the lazy hacks will be boosting this game-bear in mind the OF don't play till Sunday, so we'll have a few more inches of column available.

I'm confident of high 3000's and hopefully over 4000.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 17:18:08
QUOTE(Patg @ Feb 20 2008, 05:14 PM) [snapback]407578[/snapback]
Irons is quoted in Teletext on ITV as saying if club goes into adminastration he will go back for some of there players ...

Pat G

Clearly he considers administration a possibility, if not a likelihood.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 17:25:26
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 20 2008, 05:21 PM) [snapback]407586[/snapback]
Were Davie and Derek considered fans? wink.gif

NO-Bill and Ben have become Queens supporters, though little weed is still faithful to the cause.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 17:28:40
QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Feb 20 2008, 05:26 PM) [snapback]407595[/snapback]
give him a wee bottle a lucozade
that will make him bounce back laugh.gif

FFS don't give him a big bottle or he might buy Greenock Juniors!
mortonjag 2008-02-20 17:38:55
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 20 2008, 05:32 PM) [snapback]407600[/snapback]
Firstly, the vast majority of immigrants are of working age, many students and young adults, helping to offset the serious pensioner problem that will cripple the current state system within the forseeable future.
On the social aspect, if people find it disturbing to see foreign faces, cultures and languages, then surely that's more of an indication of their own prejudices than that of immigrants?
The simple fact is, if you are an unskilled worker, complaining about the increased competition from abroad, ask yourself - after years of comprehensive education, a generally reasonable standard of living and opportunities closed to members of the decayed Eastern bloc - why do you have the same skill level as these people?
In reality, there is a far bigger "problem" as such faced by workshy citizens and underacheivers than faced by immigrants.
Migration is historical and constant, so there is actually no point in complaining about people's freedom to move - a freedom which was so easily portrayed as a bonus in order to undermine the Soviets in the Cold War.
Or mebbe we should create another Iron Curtain to keep them out?

Our current immigration policy is a 'cop out'. No amount of theorising and producing statistics will alter that.

You claim that the majority of immigrants are of working age. Possibly, but within three years they have two weans being maintained by the taxpayer-they have every reason to breed like rabbits, and I assure you they do.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 20:57:00
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 20 2008, 07:48 PM) [snapback]407651[/snapback]
Which in turn would help alleviate the ageing population and the future pension problem.
Population is perhaps of greater concern to England, but Scotland has a far lower poulation density and needs immigration to at very least maintain the current population.
I genuinely cannot understand why you get your knickers in such a twist over a group of people simply wanting to improve their lives.

Possibly because you don't have it on your doorstep, and they are 'improving their lives' at my expense.

I get weary of kids regurgitating stuff they've learned in Social Studies classes and so on. Read Willowman's last post, and that is NOTHING compared to some city areas. It's OK for you Inverclyde people to talk. Come and see.

Immigration I welcome, if it GENUINELY improves the quality of our country. What I am talking about is a blight on our society, and a bloody expensive one at that.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 21:05:00
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 20 2008, 06:31 PM) [snapback]407618[/snapback]
Aye but she is a slapper...always hanging about with that Bill and Ben and flobbing their dobbers ohmy.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Apparently Wurzel Gummidge is now officially a Stranraer supporter.

Not many left!
mortonjag 2008-02-20 21:11:50
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Feb 20 2008, 08:21 PM) [snapback]407664[/snapback]
That's just carrot-dangling pish - spill the beans or may your next s*** be a hedgehog! tongue.gif

Mixed metaphors!

I do like the carrot dangling pish

Turnip dangling tadger! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-20 21:16:55
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 20 2008, 09:03 PM) [snapback]407681[/snapback]
So how are they directly improving at your expense?
And I don't doubt the green and white tink situation will be far more severe in about an hours time. tongue.gif

Well let's just put it like this VT-the ancestors of those green and white tinks came over here to do an honest day's work-a bit like today's Polish invasion. I'm talking about something entirely different. If you don't know what I'm talking about, there's no point in your arguing with me.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 21:25:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 20 2008, 08:48 PM) [snapback]407676[/snapback]
the bold wendy ??

I think we saw her on an Australian documentary just before the Scots elections.

She was not overly articulate when she was being interviewed in Linwood.

Seemed at bit of a waste land.

Wendy blended in very well.

You wouldn't say she was pretty.

and you wouldn't say she was ugly.

Just pretty ugly.

blink.gif blink.gif

Cruel Newt-very cruel. The truth is hurtful! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-20 21:30:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 20 2008, 09:26 PM) [snapback]407690[/snapback]
there's no point in your arguing with me

debating please, chaps.

Debating.

smile.gif

How dare you debate with me!
mortonjag 2008-02-20 21:39:05
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 20 2008, 09:33 PM) [snapback]407699[/snapback]
huh.gif what was the purpose of that post?

Education, I'd imagine forza

Kimacolm-church or cell of Columba

Kilbarchan
Kilwinning
Kilbirnie

etc.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 21:41:49
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 20 2008, 09:26 PM) [snapback]407691[/snapback]
perish the thought that anyone might consider this messageboard a 'rag' sad.gif

Perish anyone who considered this messageboard a 'rag'. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-20 21:44:02
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 20 2008, 09:42 PM) [snapback]407704[/snapback]
yes but i knew that anyway unsure.gif i think it was just wikipedia tom trying to show off. for a change.

laugh.gif

Surely Mr Bam doesn't need to show off, forza.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 21:51:43
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Feb 20 2008, 09:45 PM) [snapback]407708[/snapback]
I know for a fact that when the Tesco boys came up against planning difficulties, they called Wendy Alexander directly to make sure it was sorted.

I'm sure I remember something about that.

Tesco are extremely ruthless in the property business. They are currently developing a huge site in the Yorkhill/Partick area, and one of my relatives has been involved in negotiations with them.

From what he says, I think Bendy Wendy's clubcard statement might have made interesting reading at that time.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 21:57:24
QUOTE(Cosmos @ Feb 20 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]407711[/snapback]
PLEASE get behind the team on Sat. Davie Irons and Derek deserve a great reception. CMON the Ton. With a fighting spirit we'll stay up. We're a 1st division team NO QUESTION unsure.gif

I just checked-you are correct. Last season we were a second division team. Once we were a Premier League team.



C'MON YE TON!
mortonjag 2008-02-20 22:13:51
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 20 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]407722[/snapback]
tongue.gif

Glad she didn't make a c*nt of it.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 22:23:26
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 20 2008, 10:15 PM) [snapback]407727[/snapback]
That's shocking Newton biggrin.gif

Ah the old Chronic Rigidity Yearning syndrome-speak to Gash-he's into penis pumps in a BIG way!
mortonjag 2008-02-20 22:33:54
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 20 2008, 10:24 PM) [snapback]407731[/snapback]
Firstly, immigration is at the highest recorded level, not of all time.
Unless of course, the mass hordes of Goths, Huns, Vandals, Suebi and Alans that laid waste to the Western empire in the 5th century were actually just a couple of peasants and a cart.
Secondly, claiming the Conservatives as a basis on immigration policy doesn't really cut it - they're irrelevant and backward.

Now, as for the alkies remark, Eastern europeans were not responsible for the two world wars, or the Holocaust and were opowerless to stop the imposition of communism (indeed, many fought against it with the lure of "freedom" in the West). They are not, as you make out, theiving and pillaging the country - they are settling down with their families to make a new life for themselves.

In my opinion, it is clear that the world develops according to a cycle of development - countries like China and India took over Europe as the heart of heavy industry due to the very principle of free market economics: they are more competitive.
That is a fact - the decline of heavy industry was inevitable and natural - had a government effectively prepared for the transition then perhaps people wouldn't get quite so emotive about this issue.
Now as for depriving services: a basically free health service, comprehensive education, a transport system that, although needing work is still basically intact - the UK is a very prosperous and successful country at the moment.
There are things that can be improved, but in comparison to places like Poland there is a clear, human attraction to move - one that will not be stopped by legal restrictions.

The reason why immigration is in the headlines is primarily because demented slevvering psychopaths writing in the Daily Mail and Daily Express wield a considerable amount of power with the government despite their irrational views.
That is the vote the two main parties are chasing - hence the publicity, leaked memos, statements.

Its really irritating to see people blaming immigrants for the current problems within the country when incompetent politicians such as Brown can get away with squandering tens of billions by pandering to the lowest common denominator, such as "British jobs for British workers" - a tone almost unheard of since the Fuhrer himself declared the Volksgemeinschaft. dry.gif

VT, do you have ANY first hand experience of the effects of unbridled immigration. I suspect not.

If, as NewTON suggests, you're only on here for a debate, it's quite probable that you are the very type who will end up as one of those politicians you so despise.

Incidentally, I don't BLAME immigrants for anything. I blame the bloody politicians for the current mess. I do, however, blame PC befuddled clowns for confusing the issue, and for preaching at those who can use their eyes and ears.

mortonjag 2008-02-20 22:38:44
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 20 2008, 10:35 PM) [snapback]407740[/snapback]
You and a couple of others on here appear to have an answer for everything so do you have an answer / justification for my statement on my previous post wink.gif

He's checking his books!
mortonjag 2008-02-20 22:42:22
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 20 2008, 10:32 PM) [snapback]407737[/snapback]
Unlike the immigrants who are given fully furnished housing / clothing / etc.

Little known fact Willow. GP's in inner city areas are paid a bonus to take immigrants onto their lists!
mortonjag 2008-02-20 22:51:52
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 20 2008, 10:44 PM) [snapback]407750[/snapback]
Merely improving the standard of living of the local GP and totally justified.

Open the borders and send more of them in tongue.gif

If only!

The truth is they DON'T want them-they would bleed the NHS dry overnight given half a chance, and are followed around by f*cking interpreters, social workers, welfare rights officers, etc., -ALL paid for by US.

Now little VT can argue-sorry debate- till he's blue in the face, but I'm talking from EXPERIENCE.

Do I blame those people-not at all-they cannot help the culture from which they come, and let's face it, nobody knocks back a free lunch ticket. That does NOT make it acceptable.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 22:58:40
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 20 2008, 10:46 PM) [snapback]407753[/snapback]
Good thing - it helps to prevent the spread of any infectious diseases and generally helps to improve the welfare of our newest residents.

And that's page 7. smile.gif

Ha-but they are not OBLIGED to take them-thus it's the greedy b*****ds who inflate their lists, knowing full well they can never cope with the demand.

Result-a HUGE increase in unnecessary prescriptions, and 'freebies', often without, or with only the most basic sham of a consultation-huge waste of public money.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:00:45
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Feb 20 2008, 10:46 PM) [snapback]407754[/snapback]
The rise in people feeling resentful is alarming but not surprising.

LL I'm astonished it's taken so long. This has been going on for almost ten years, though it's now reaching epidemic proportions.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:02:48
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 20 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]407756[/snapback]
Well, well, well.

So it's justifiable that a block of flats that a council claimed weren't fit to be inhabited and REFUSED to house local homeless folk in were suddenly refurbished at the cost of hundreds of thousands of pounds to house immigrants ??

The child is young and innocent Willow-he will learn!
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:04:29
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 20 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]407758[/snapback]
No that's not justifiable, but that's the fault of incompetent local officials rather than that of immigrants.
Now bviously the situation differs from area to area, but certainly Inverclyde has more than enough spare housing capacity to take in all the homeless and a substantial amount of immigrants from other countries.

HOW RIGHT YOU ARE SONNY.


Fancy five or six train loads right now?
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:06:42
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 20 2008, 10:53 PM) [snapback]407762[/snapback]
But it isn't immigration that is causing increasing prices - its the increase in demand from China and India for the commodities the West used to have a majority hold over.
The USA economy is boosted by an estimated $20 billion net a year from immigration - California relies on Hispanics in order to collect the harvests and perform the functionary work that makes California such a detestable place to live.
IMO of course.

Bloody hell VT-we can ALL read.

OPEN YOUR F*CKING EYES, and stop arguing (debating) with folk who are talking from personal experience.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:08:13
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 20 2008, 11:06 PM) [snapback]407778[/snapback]
Anymore pish like that and VT will be calling you a RACIST tongue.gif biggrin.gif tongue.gif

I can feel it coming Willow! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:14:40
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Feb 20 2008, 10:55 PM) [snapback]407765[/snapback]
Sorry I have to disagree there, I am working and have worked in almost every service you have mentioned above. We have citizens here and now living in abject poverty and squalor like you will never imagine. We have to be able to afford these basics and habitable accommodation for our own before we start giving handouts to strangers. We have pensioners living in cold and dire conditions. Charity begins at home.

Very true and very sad. The single state pensioner receives only a fraction of the support foisted on immigrants and asylum seekers, Not only that, but by the nature of OUR culture, our home grown elderly are very slow to ask for help. Compare that to the yabbering 'ME ME ME' culture of many of those immigrants.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:17:34
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 20 2008, 11:10 PM) [snapback]407784[/snapback]
I would never do such a thing.
A conservative, possibly a bit paranoid auld duffer, but never racist. tongue.gif

Not a TORY though.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:19:38
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 20 2008, 11:15 PM) [snapback]407795[/snapback]
The majority of those flats have been closed due to water ingress which has proved almost impossible to stop as they weren't built correctly in the first place.

I'm here to help.

The irony Boozie!
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:26:12
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 20 2008, 11:17 PM) [snapback]407798[/snapback]
What about the old exiles more than happy to claim winter fuel allowance despite living in Spain?
Its more of an issue about education rather than a reluctance to claim - many simply don't know what they're entitled to.

NO IT'S NOT son-and I'm TELLING you. If you don't listen to your teachers you don't learn. Stop plagiarising whichever piece of political crap you've most recently been coming all over, and give some of the older posters credit for a bit of intelligence and life experience.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:29:36
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 20 2008, 11:18 PM) [snapback]407801[/snapback]
Of course not.
I was careful not to mention the big 'C'.

Wendy?
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:32:38
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 20 2008, 11:19 PM) [snapback]407802[/snapback]
On my way to wok tomorrow I'm going to ignore the blind lady who in the past I've helped across the road on her way to work, and instead buy cups of tea for all the foreign beggars and give them all the money out of my bank account, afterall they're more deserving ohmy.gif

They're going to cannibalise you?
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:33:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 20 2008, 11:27 PM) [snapback]407809[/snapback]
Using caps still won't shake me out of my wooly liberal globalistic world view. smile.gif

An immigrant nicking the bread out of your mouth might! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:38:37
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 20 2008, 11:34 PM) [snapback]407816[/snapback]
Nobody would struggle as much under a more efficient government.
Obviously there'd be relative poverty, but actual poverty could and must be eradicated,, if only New "Labour" couls stop chasing the immigrants with a flaming torch and actually get on with their task of creating the "social justice" of their taglines.

I thought they were welcoming them in! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:46:04
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 20 2008, 11:42 PM) [snapback]407825[/snapback]
Why can't you do both? smile.gif

Let's face it every generation has had their "bloody foreigners" pish. From the Irish, Indians, West Indians to today's Poles and Slavs. This stuff passes as the older generation do smile.gif

Willow was not talking about immigrants who are self supporting.

That is the whole point of this debate. Most of the 'Polish invasion' are in remunerative employment, and not on State benefit.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:48:17
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 20 2008, 11:44 PM) [snapback]407829[/snapback]
jim what is it with you and immigration? i think you're a good guy but you've been going on about this for EVER! i never seem to read you talking about other political concerns. don't you think the post i made about the billionaires taking us all for a ride is worth debating? they cost us more.

did a big gypsy steal your wig? tongue.gif

Then they have a lot to answer for!
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:50:40
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 20 2008, 11:49 PM) [snapback]407834[/snapback]
How many pages Gordon Brown then? laugh.gif

Gordon Brown is an immigrant.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:51:37
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 20 2008, 11:46 PM) [snapback]407832[/snapback]
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Truly horrific.

Is he a rapper?
mortonjag 2008-02-21 00:09:44
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 20 2008, 11:58 PM) [snapback]407838[/snapback]
VT you can quote history going back 2000 years ago when the nations biggest worry was keeping a mudhut over its head or if some bugger was doing a bit of sheep rustling.

The issue of it all is that Uncontrolled Immigration is costing the UK a fortune. You have yet to produce figures to prove otherwise and any other documented proof saying how it is actually helping the UK.

Cards on the table facing up the way! A few of us have shown our hands, so show us the proof.

It's a new day, and he's still working on it!

Off to bed and to think. wink.gif

FFS he's found some more crap.

Will we ever get his opinion?

Does he have an informed opinion.

He is a mischief maker. blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-21 06:28:37
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 21 2008, 12:59 AM) [snapback]407851[/snapback]
As said previously what about people from the UK who are not self supporting?

Is he referring to immigrants who come here illegally and get no benefits? Surely the majority of them are supporting themselves with buckshee work? If not, and they are begging, how is that a drain on the economy? The problem with arguing over illegal immigrants is there have no evidence at all to support any estimate on their numbers.

If he is referring to asylum seekers does he propose not allowing them into the country despite our legal obligation to do so on the grounds other countries aren't? Willowman pointed out he was noble enough to help a blind woman cross the street. Surely he saw other people ignoring her. By this reasoning he should have ignored her as well as it caused a drain on him in some way as he had to take time out from going to work to do so. He done it as it was the right thing to do. As is giving asylum seekers a free chance to a new life in this country to flee from oppression in others.

Finally if he is referring to immigrants from within the EU does he not realise that it's a two way system and people from the UK are able to go in the opposite direction? I know of a couple of guys who have spent the summer in Spain/France/Portugal/Germany with no intention of working over there whereas I've yet to meet an immigrant to this country with no intention of working. There are a large amount of workers moving across the EU to and from lots of different countries and Britain is no different.

I think you'll find that Willowman is simply referring to unbridled immigration in general. Any clown can look up the rules for the three groups you've defined, but it's much more difficult to argue meaningfully when you have no hands-on experience of what's been happening.

That's the problem with the PC brigade, a huge infrastructure with a vested interest in the Status Quo, and two or three of our cosy rosy posters.

I wish you children would confine your intelligent debating to principles.

In practice you clearly haven't a clue.
mortonjag 2008-02-21 06:31:57
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 21 2008, 03:29 AM) [snapback]407854[/snapback]
Call yersel a doctor ? ! ? !

Every one knows that CRY syndrome is...

can't remember yesterday.

In serious cases, it can lead to Craft disease.

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You are a wicked man-I really really hope the good Nacho doesn't spot that!


You CRAFTY old cobber! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-21 06:35:45
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Feb 21 2008, 05:38 AM) [snapback]407855[/snapback]
I've had to go to Thailand at short notice. Will be thinking of the rain in greenock.

Another Morton match missed sad.gif

That beats 'naw it's the wife's birthday' hands down.

Very COOL! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-21 06:39:54 Many happy returns-I like the wee choon on your personal web site BTW! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-21 07:14:46
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 21 2008, 12:52 AM) [snapback]407849[/snapback]
Them bloody poles and their coming over here!

Expect this in a couple of years

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mortonjag 2008-02-21 07:41:55
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Feb 21 2008, 07:31 AM) [snapback]407861[/snapback]
An interesting couple of pages.

Of course Willowman is aware that it is a two way street. He worked in Hungary. That's why most of what he says should be ignored as he is being hypocritical. FMOW is fine when he's taking advantage of it, but not when others are.

The control on immigration has slipped recently mainly to allow people like WDE to bring their foreign wives in. In the past the application could be refused if it was thought that the primary purpose of the marriage was to gain entry to the UK. When that was dropped in 1997 the numbers entering increased dramatically.

Also, there needs to be a grown up debate about the differences between FMOW and illegal immigration. The right wing press like to lump the two together as it plays to the lowest common denominator that they serve. FMOW is a benefit to the economy - the birth rate has risen for the first time in years, which bodes well for those of who'll be looking for state pensions in the future. Illegal Immigration feeds the black market the same way that people who don't declare their full incomes do. It is a drain on the exchequer and costs all of us who declare our earnings money. Neither should be tolerated but you don't see the right wing press doing a number on the more difficult target.

Finally, for me on this thread and possibly the board, who was it said "To each according to their needs, from each according to their abilities"? There is too much greed and as a result we are undertaxed and borrowing to the max. It is unsustainable and that is the real cause of many of society's problems. Despite the nasty woman's assertion that society didn't exist. So don't blame it on the nasty foreigners. The Irish and Blacks have been the scapegoats in the past. Time for people to look at themselves for solutions.

Oh, Puggsy. Loved the Countdown thing but Y counts a avowel in Polish so the thing might be a little bit bigger.

What is FMOW?


Is it different from FMONW?


I agree with a good deal of what you've said, and I'm all for a free labour market within mutually agreed rules. The Poles are a good example of how that appears to be working pretty well.

Immigration issues are complex-they need simplification IMHO, but the fact remains that we are currently awash with jobless Europeans who beg, borrow, steal, work in the 'black economy' ANYTHING in an attempt to improve their lot. That includes depriving the taxpayer of vast sums of money paid in all sorts of benefits.

I have already said I don't blame those people, but I DO NOT welcome their presence on my doorstep. Nor, for that matter do my multi-cultural neighbours. We ARE a dumping ground-like it or not.

mortonjag 2008-02-21 08:51:23
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 21 2008, 08:31 AM) [snapback]407868[/snapback]
yeah but it's suits a lot of people to disregard how we came to be a wealthy country
pc brigade? who are these mythical people? the term politically correct is a misnomer. surely you think your politics are correct? our beliefs are correct to us all individually. do you mean people of a liberal persuasion? most people i know don't stick to one side of any spectrum but have their own views on individual issues. "the pc brigade" is a lazy , exhausted term used by reactionaries.

and why do you keep refering to people as children? patronising and boring mate.
here's mj trying to get aff his couch to post more s***e

That's the problem with the PC brigade.I wish you children would confine your intelligent debating to principles.


That is downright dishonesty-and you know it.That is not a quote from me-it's two pieces cobbled together to suit your ends forza-poor show!

I know EXACTLY what I mean by the PC brigade, and the term seems generally accepted. I would comment, however, that many of those people are not in truth 'politically correct', but choose to be for varying reasons-often in the furtherance of a career for example.

Finally, I only refer to posters as children when it's abundantly clear they have little life experience but are still happy to argue the toss with those who have.
mortonjag 2008-02-21 08:59:06
QUOTE(Green_oak_tree @ Feb 21 2008, 08:28 AM) [snapback]407867[/snapback]
It certainly took a lot longer than I anticipated but it was obvious someone would feel the need to spill the beans, I bet about 80% of the forum readers and posters knew the reasons but didn't post them, not to protect the player but the club. sad.gif

Does anyone have full details-did he call an opponent a nasty word in the heat of the moment? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-21 09:02:59
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 21 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]407873[/snapback]
All this talk of administration could end up becoming a self fulfilling prophecy - given that Gretna have never traded under normal rules of profit and loss (and that applies to most football clubs actually as few actually show a profit) it is clear that they are funded principally by Brookes Mileson. That has been the scenario for several years, and the only thing that has changed is that Brookes is ill in hospital. It's not as if their income streams, such as they are, have dried up, and I'd bet their wage bill has been slashed on the field at least. I can't see any good reason why their financial position should have deteriorated from its position one or two years ago - although it has to be said that they owe a lot of money to a lot of people, including me, and that isn't a very good way to run a business - a lot of people will be wanting current debts settled and financial guarantees before they will do any future work for Gretna. That's just common sense and normal good business practice.

I don't think anyone directly connected with Gretna FC is trying to rip anyone off here - I think it's more poor organisation than anything else, and in particular poor financial management, possibly coupled with some individuals elsewhere in the Mileson organisation, not within Gretna FC, maybe trying to line their own pockets. Some of the things I have been told point to that being at least part of the problem.

If they're not directly connected with Gretna F.C.,and Brooksy pays everything from his own bank account to whom nobody else is a signatory, I find that a puzzling statement.
mortonjag 2008-02-21 11:17:05
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 21 2008, 10:42 AM) [snapback]407897[/snapback]
Awash? Define awash? 1,000 jobless Europeans? 10,000? 1,000,000? Or do you go by percentages? 1% of Europeans who come here? 10%? Or do mean it as a percentage of the countries population? 6% of people in Britain are jobless Europeans? Point out these masses of jobless Europeans when I sign on today. I'll be looking for them behind the piles of neds trying to get crisis loan "for a new cooker" and the half dozen teenage single mums all born and raised in Greenock and then, tonight, when I go out for my birthday. I'll spend some of my time drinking with hard working Poles and Slovaks who contribute more taxes to this economy in a month than some people from here do in a year.

You may confuse our youthful endeavor with naiveity but that's what old people do. We may confuse your experience with being out of touch. That's what young people do. Now wrap yer blanket round yer legs and get ready for Diagnosis Murder smile.gif

It's well seen you mention Greenock! That DOES demonstrate your naivety. I invite you to spend a day with me during which I will take you on a guided tour of this great city. I assure you I have kept a finger firmly on the pulse, and that the term 'awash' is MORE than appropriate in certain areas.
mortonjag 2008-02-21 11:18:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 21 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]407889[/snapback]
Well, being a medico, you will know that it is hardly brain surgery.

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Has anyone tested DDFR ?

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Now now! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-21 11:31:13
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Feb 21 2008, 11:21 AM) [snapback]407909[/snapback]
Which is why he'll be dealt with the courts and the club in the appropriate manner.
It's not for us to judge or get on our high moral ground about.

I think Pedro was illustrating the fact that McGuffie has been found guilty of being in charge of a motor vehicle while he was incapable of driving safely, and that he might have wreaked personal havoc on others, while comparing that to Shields' arguably lesser alleged offence, which appeared to result in him leaving Cappielow.
mortonjag 2008-02-21 11:50:13
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 21 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]407912[/snapback]
Greenock isn't the only place I've spent time in y'know. I still don't see the streets of Glasgow awash with these bloody foreigners.

Glasgow has many many streets young man-I agree you will see relatively few foreign faces on the main drag between Bearsden and Milngavie.

I did not argue with your perception of the situation in Greenock.

Incidentally we have a co-poster who goes under the name of Whiteman in Govanhill, not that the good Asians of Govanhill have suffered any more than many of their close neighbours from the recent influx, which tends to have been decanted into areas with suitable high rise blocks.

As I said, you're welcome to a guided tour any time! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-21 11:55:15
QUOTE(Green_oak_tree @ Feb 21 2008, 11:44 AM) [snapback]407916[/snapback]
The only people getting worked up are those who didn't get to find out, jimmy boag delivers and pedro.mcghee ought to get over themselves.
Like InverAlly says it's a matter for the police and the club to decide how they deal with them.

How can you say that with confidence. Just suppose I were to tell you that I have confidentially been given information about both cases, and still think Pedro has a valid point. What would you say to that?
mortonjag 2008-02-21 12:00:44
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Feb 21 2008, 11:56 AM) [snapback]407921[/snapback]
That it's none of your business... wink.gif

Really-I think it IS my business, and the business of every paying customer at Cappielow to take an active interest in how the club deals with the peccadillos of its employees.

Maybe once full details come to light we can have a poll on the matter!
mortonjag 2008-02-21 12:03:37
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 21 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]407922[/snapback]
His name is Achmed, he is a dead terrorist!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-sSmX8pCYo...feature=related

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That's ever so sweet-did you kill him personally-my simian friend enquires?
mortonjag 2008-02-21 12:10:22
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 21 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]407929[/snapback]
I'm horrified you think I spend anytime in Bearsden or Milngavie when I visit the mean streets of Glasgow ohmy.gif

I didn't suggest you do! wink.gif

Are you coming on that guided tour or not? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-21 12:17:48
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 21 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]407933[/snapback]
He's nothing to do with me, honest Guv...methinks the monkley knows more than he is letter on! wink.gif

The monkey is a true pacifist Puggs-he wouldn't harm a fly unless it got too near his banana.
mortonjag 2008-02-21 12:29:19
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Feb 21 2008, 12:18 PM) [snapback]407935[/snapback]
Good damn bloody foriegners ruining our nation! Damn them all to hell I say.

I'm pretty sure that's what locals in Spain, France, Italy and more recently Romania, Bulgaria, etc say about the invasion of Brits moving in and buying up property forcing them out of their homes and onto the streets so that they have to move to the UK to make enough money to keep pace with house prices in the own country!

Sounds about as logical as some of the arguments on here.

The NHS has been a crumbling monolith for years - creaking under the strain. But it's 'easier' to blame someone else (this season it just happens to be Eastern Europeans who are the targets - racism disguised by the fact they are white Christians) All I can say is thank god I live in Belgium where although I pay significantly more tax than in the UK I can see a specialist within a week and not 6 months - but hey that's just me.

As for state-spongers, since Maggie we grown accustomed to people living on benefits. I don't have any numbers but I would guess that the total number of foriegn spongers is a small percentage compared to british spongers. State benefits should only be a safety net that let's people bounce back into work. But the argument is they are obviously stealing all the jobs as well. Yeah right, like you'd be happy to work as a fruit picker for sod all an hour and live with 20 other people in a two-up two-down.

I tried not to respond to this thread, but unfortunatley my rant finally broke through.

ScotinBelgie - an economic migrant

I don't recall anyone BLAMING Eastern Europeans for the historical inadequacy of the NHS, but they have put a significant extra burden on its resources. If stating that makes me a latent racist-so be it. I live here Robert, and I know all about the NHS.

Like several posters before you, you have (? deliberately) chosen to confuse a free labour market as evinced by the behaviour of most of the Poles in our country, with a mass offloading of other Europeans-effectively onto our benefits system.

I don't blame those people-I blame the clowns in government, but please don't imagine that the majority of Scots are happy with the situation, and I include in that Scots of all ethnic origins.
mortonjag 2008-02-21 12:31:05
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 21 2008, 12:23 PM) [snapback]407937[/snapback]
Only if you sing "Streets of London" with London switched for Glasgow the whole way along it.

It's kinda hard to drive and play my guitar at the same time! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-21 12:32:57
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 21 2008, 12:24 PM) [snapback]407938[/snapback]
On the 'we're a soft touch' subjject, a report by the OECD has placed Britain in the middle of the OECD countries accepting immigrants, with Luxembourg, Australia and Switzerland taking by far the highest proportion. In contrast, Britain is top ONLY in the table of Brits LEAVING for other countries...

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Oz is swimming with Romanians-I F*CKIN' like that! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Lies, damned lies and statistics.


....and your point was?
mortonjag 2008-02-21 12:35:27
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 21 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]407943[/snapback]
Could you explain that one to me? If the majority are coming here and working and paying NI and taxes how is it a burden?

Who suggested that? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-21 12:39:12
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 21 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]407947[/snapback]
It will be refreshing walking to the ground without thinking I wonder what stupid idea that moron will have this week .
At least Dougie will still be making outrageous comments in his progrmme notes , so at least some normality will prevail.

I'm wondering what he will have made of the support at Dundee, which was outstanding. Will he state he's glad the fans paid attention to him-even if his diatribe was only directed at the 'home' fans?
mortonjag 2008-02-21 12:47:56
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 21 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]407948[/snapback]
I'd say you can. Get three or four like minded folks and stand at the back of the shed a good bit apart. Once you get there put one in charge and he decides the tunes. He'll shout to his deputy's what it's gonna be. They pass the message on to others in the shed. Head ultra counts down with his hand and everyone bursts into song at once.

I'd very surprised if this happened on Saturday coming or any Saturday for this matter.

I think the bugler should come back-if he can get past the stewards.

'Can I have a look in your bag Sir'?

'Sorry Sir, but you can't take that into the stadium'.

'But it's my bugle-can't you see that-I'm the Cappielow bugler, and I've come back to raise the spirits of the crowd'.

'That's what I mean Sir-we're here to do the opposite-now are you going to hand it over'?

Bugler sounds the 'Reveille' and Mr Rae appears ultra quick from a secret vantage point.

'Steward-let my bugler enter immediately'.

'Yes Mr Rae, and will there be anything else your Lord...I mean Sir'? rolleyes.gif

mortonjag 2008-02-21 13:07:48
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 21 2008, 01:05 PM) [snapback]407965[/snapback]
Not all immigrants are Romanian!

My point was simply that Britain is not necessarily the 'soft touch' compared to its international counterparts that it is often made out to be.

I know!

You went about it in a strange way though, by simply quoting global figures for immigration.
mortonjag 2008-02-21 13:08:38
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 21 2008, 01:05 PM) [snapback]407966[/snapback]
HMRC!

If HM stands for what I think it stands for-it's a guaranteed lie!
mortonjag 2008-02-21 13:11:02
QUOTE(Marc @ Feb 21 2008, 01:07 PM) [snapback]407968[/snapback]
Also in other news.. Jim McInally has left Morton rolleyes.gif

....and Douglas Rae has been spotted in Aulds again.
mortonjag 2008-02-21 13:14:28
QUOTE(Doddie @ Feb 21 2008, 01:07 PM) [snapback]407967[/snapback]
I'm sure he said he wouldn't be prepared to drop a level again, his contract is up at the summer and he is looking forward to getting out of there, is he their top goalscorer this season despite being on loan for the first half of the season?

I remember Deuchar was nominated as MOTM by radio Scotland after an SPL game a couple of months back. He was pure crap against us at Palmerston, and I've yet to be hugely impressed by him, though he does 'get about' defenders.
mortonjag 2008-02-21 13:15:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 21 2008, 01:14 PM) [snapback]407975[/snapback]
Well, DDFR is an auld timer.

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With an auld ticker?
mortonjag 2008-02-21 13:22:50
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Feb 21 2008, 01:18 PM) [snapback]407979[/snapback]
I think it is very much a matter concerning the paying fans. I wouldn't want any child of mine to go along on Saturday and look up to someone who drives drunk or is charged with race hate crimes. I suspect that McGuffie will get off with a rap on the knuckles as it's far easier to take the moral high ground with someone who's contract is about to expire.

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mortonjag 2008-02-21 15:24:38
QUOTE(ianton @ Feb 21 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]407990[/snapback]
i have had nothing but problems with tiscali over the last while.although cheap they are certainly rubbish when it comes to trying to create a service.for example some nights the speed drops dramatacly.its a waste of time phoning them as the call centre is in India,so trying to have a conversation is pretty poor.has anybody got any good service providers in the area?. the internet has been down for the last 12 hours.is it only tiscali?,or has anybody outwith tiscali had their internet cut off?.

PlusNet-tremendous service and good value for money.
mortonjag 2008-02-21 15:35:08
QUOTE(Jackie @ Feb 21 2008, 02:37 PM) [snapback]408012[/snapback]
http://www.sportinglife.co.uk/football/new...ual_125110.html

I was having a conversation with my Dad about him only a couple of dats ago, saying how he used to be in the papers all the time and that he hadn't grabbed any headlines of late. What does sectioning entail and what does this spell for Paul?

It simply means he has been admitted to hospital under a SECTION of the Mental Health Act for his own safety, and/or that of others. In Scotland the initial period of detention is 24 hours, and has to be renewed in hospital if they feel it necessary.

It doesn't really mean very much one way or the other-certainly not that Gazza has suddenly developed some bizarre mental illness-it's much more likely to be the result of the long term effect of alcohol abuse on his brain. Hopefully he will be in hospital for long enough to really get himself sorted out this time.
mortonjag 2008-02-21 15:42:24
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Feb 21 2008, 01:58 PM) [snapback]407999[/snapback]
Indeed, as posted on another thread:

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mortonjag 2008-02-21 15:44:48
QUOTE(CraigoTON @ Feb 21 2008, 02:07 PM) [snapback]408001[/snapback]
would love if that was possible.. however i dont think so sad.gif

Maybe we could get him on an emergency loan! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-21 15:45:46
QUOTE(ianton @ Feb 21 2008, 02:37 PM) [snapback]408011[/snapback]
0-3
2,200

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mortonjag 2008-02-21 16:01:43
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 21 2008, 03:32 PM) [snapback]408029[/snapback]
i guess we havent to judge murderers, rapists, peadophiles and serial killers then because the courts dealt with them?

all it took was one wrong turn and we'd have another Lee Hughes Situation, except this time with our Team's name dragged through the mud.

so forgive me for thinking this is my business.

SPOT ON

He wasn't just over the limit either. He's a relatively well known young man who took a decision which could have had fatal consequences for himself and others. If, in the privacy of his own home, he had chosen to get himself totally paralytic before shagging the budgie thinking it was his Auntie Jenny, that would be none of our business I guess, but as Rasta said, he's a professional footballer, and in the public eye.

So the boy made a mistake. The publicity and ban are probably punishment enough, and I certainly won't be holding this against him, but to suggest that it's 'none of our business' is arrant nonsense.
mortonjag 2008-02-21 16:07:14
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 21 2008, 03:39 PM) [snapback]408032[/snapback]
There are a few on here that are looking to be sectioned soon then rolleyes.gif

I've often thought that Sean, but I won't name names!
mortonjag 2008-02-22 06:33:25 ...and supreme Bawheid.


Speaking of public alarm at transfer of Carstairs patients to lower security units.



Mr Salmond told MSPs: "Any transfer of a restricted prisoner and resident at Carstairs requires ministerial approval. That is the guarantee of public safety that we have."

Very good Bawheid, and no doubt you will personally carry the can for the first gaffe! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 06:43:21
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 21 2008, 05:24 PM) [snapback]408095[/snapback]
f***ing paranoid or what?! i highlighted two parts of your post that i was taking umbrage with. it was not my intention for anyone to take it as a continuous f***ing narrative. anyway what's the problem with the 2 sentences being together? unlike you i wouldn't spam the board by quoting ALL of your s***e.

as for life experiences i have plenty. how do you know what another posters experiences are? when you're proven wrong on here you either ignore it or go off on a smokescreen tangent to hide the flaps that you talk. poor show.

Knickers in a twist again forza.

The highlighted part DID look like a continuous quote.

How do I know what others experiences are-I don't and have never claimed I do.

Oh and BTW you know f*** ALL about MY life experiences either! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 06:45:12
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Feb 21 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]408096[/snapback]
Achh you know me MJ never one to miss a step! I know people aren't specifically blaming immigration for the historical underfunding of the NHS and that you probablly better than most know the state it is really in. However, while you can argue that this influx may be the straw that will break the camal's back I do disagree that it is a significant reason for the shambles that is currently the NHS and therefore the impact it has on the level of care that is offered to the rest of the community.

Don't get me wrong - I know that significant economic migration as well as immigration does bring it's own problems. I didn't realize how many Flemish folk were Kosovan independance supporters until the weekend rolleyes.gif . And yes I did deliberately confuse the difference between positive and negative economic migration of Eastern Europeans. But that is a major part of the problem, we effectively see 'them' as dole-scrounging wastrels and a drain on our resources - just another part of the blame game - so the percieved impact is significantly greater than the actual impact.

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Interesting point-may well prove correct.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 06:51:08
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 21 2008, 10:28 PM) [snapback]408188[/snapback]
Well the way some posters on here go on you'd think they'd want a Pole / Romanian etc as part of their own family.

One would have thought you'd want to make them welcome and at least know how to say some basics like Good Day etc.

A lot of Brits expect folk abroad to speak English so why not make the effort and reverse the trend.

That's one of the things that irritates me-the dual morality. Nasty people like mortonjag who have a duble whammy of 'new immigrants' on their doorstep are labelled as racist when they complain.

Inverclyde hasn't yet been touched by the phenomenon! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 06:56:22
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 21 2008, 11:22 PM) [snapback]408216[/snapback]
Fine, lets just pull out of the EU then, seeing as we can't physically control EU migration, pull out of the common market, stand back and admire the dole queue lengthening and lengthening.
There is a point in what mortonjag says, in that really migration should be targeted to certain areas were the local system can cope, rather than areas which cannot.
Inverclyde, for example, desperately needs immigration to at least uphold its current poulation, whereas in certain parts of Glasgow immmigration may not be a good thing locally.
On a national scale however, I firmly believe immigration brings a net positive economic benefit to the country.

MY HERO

I've been in touch with British Rail, and they're organising 20 train loads for Monday morning-just enough time to clear out the West End.

Welcome to your new neighbours and thank you-thank you so much.

PS.....and please remember THEY are not to blame.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 07:08:17
QUOTE(CivicTypeR @ Feb 22 2008, 01:55 AM) [snapback]408239[/snapback]
Cant feel sorry for an overweight idiot who used to beat up his wife.

good riddance

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mortonjag 2008-02-22 07:10:53 Happy birthday children-- from Grandpa!


Enjoy! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 07:14:14
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 21 2008, 08:29 PM) [snapback]408142[/snapback]
The s***e that gets shouted is from Barbarossa who is just to the left of you, but you don't hear hear any shouts from pies from our lot, we're sick of looking at pies by the time we leave the Darroch, it's normally chips we want. tongue.gif

Shouting sh*te--I like that-change from spouting pish! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 07:18:41
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 21 2008, 10:32 PM) [snapback]408190[/snapback]
he's not a proffessional footballer, he's only there because the left side of the celtic bench is wonky and they use him as a kind of Paper-weight, but for benches.

Only when the manager rests his ego on the right side.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 07:22:22
QUOTE(Jackie @ Feb 21 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]408106[/snapback]
Madness that we had him on trial/training, and to the best of my knowledge, didn't do anything about him. Now the lads at Dundee and will probably get signed up.

I mean, it's not as if were overflowing with good goalkeepers. Leveins got a good eye for cheap players.

Let's hope we've turned the corner on 'trialist' fiasco with our new management. In recent times it has sometimes looked like the club thought the world owed it a living.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 07:24:28
QUOTE(stuart @ Feb 21 2008, 04:55 PM) [snapback]408078[/snapback]
Everyone makes mistakes and deserves a second chance. Hopefully he will use his influential position to warn others about the dangers of drink driving. I know it's no defence but someone I know who knows him was really shocked about this story as apparently he barely ever takes a drink.

Anyway, he done wrong, I am sure he realises this as by all accounts he is a decent enough person and I would like to see him do some anti drink-driving work in Inverclyde, maybe around Christmas or something.

Many murders have been committed by 'decent' people.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 07:31:56
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 21 2008, 11:00 PM) [snapback]408210[/snapback]
There is a good point in there about people being hypocritical.
I bet some of the people who have 'condemned' him have at some point or another driven a car over the limit, whether caught or not.

That said, it doesn't make it any better and he should learn his lesson.

Not guilty-I've done many a crazy thing, but have never driven 'under the influence of alcohol'.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 07:34:22
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 22 2008, 02:27 AM) [snapback]408241[/snapback]
What's that all about? Calling Irons his bitch when he's just in the door. Fair enough if you don't agree with the appointment but to make claims like that without any actual knowledge of the situation (in fact, nothing has even happened yet to have any knowledge of) is out of order if you ask me.

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I think all Toby meant was that the little puppies have a new 'Mummy'!
mortonjag 2008-02-22 07:37:06 I think most of the disappointment is not with Khali himself-more that he was yet again the last minute 'window' signing, whom JM claimed he'd been after for ages.

I imagine he'll be a useful squad player.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 07:39:03
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 22 2008, 07:33 AM) [snapback]408262[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-02-22 08:55:44
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 22 2008, 08:30 AM) [snapback]408270[/snapback]
Aye, very good. I'm sure ministers don't make these decisions without seeking expert advice. They don't persoanlly decide to let everyone out of Carstairs.

I know that-I just don't like his style. Any clown can use a rubber stamp after all!
mortonjag 2008-02-22 09:08:56
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Feb 22 2008, 08:41 AM) [snapback]408271[/snapback]
He did a stupid thing, was caught, and has already been judged and punished.

NEXT!

Not entirely-he's being punished for a year if you like.

The law really is an ass at times-somebody gets jailed for three years for knocking down a cyclist who deliberately BROKE the law and came through red lights, but there's still a dual morality about drink driving.

I won't personally be holding anything against Ryan McGuffie, but dictating to others that they have no right to 'have a go' at his anti-social behaviour is undemocratic.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 09:20:52
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 22 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]408288[/snapback]
I like his style when he's placing bendy Wendy over his knee and giving her a damn good spanking, as he did yesterday, again.

What hope is there for Scottish Labour while they have this screeching mouth with legs for a leader?

On the point of the proposed Carstairs transfers, recipe for disaster, but apparently being done to avert some crazy European law which would allow patients/prisoners the opportunity to sue the Government for being locked up in a unit which is too secure, breaching their human rights. blink.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Very apt use of the adjective there, and I agree.

BTW- I believe that 'screeching mouth with legs' should read 'screeching mouth with legs and big purse'.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 09:40:46
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 22 2008, 07:51 AM) [snapback]408267[/snapback]
Not going off the topic here but see the wee wummin who sells the big issue ootside Iceland in the Port is she romanian????? and the man ootside Lidl? laugh.gif

I'm reliably informed that the expression 'wee wummin' is not PC. If you are referring to the female person of less than average height who looks a bit like a grumpy old man-aye she's almost certainly Romanian-they've virtually got a monopoly on the 'Big issue' for some reason, which is odd, 'cos they all seem to have homes as well!
mortonjag 2008-02-22 09:51:35
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Feb 22 2008, 09:40 AM) [snapback]408292[/snapback]
*sigh*

I guess McGuffie is a new boo boy target then ? Or do we just bitch on here ?

The guy was drinking and driving. A damn stupid thing to do. He was caught and he was dealt with. You'd think that this would be the end of the matter but noooooooo. What we REALLY need to do is go on about ifs and buts. Supporting our player now that it's over isn't an option.

What is it with the 'SIGH' oh righteous one. Are you preaching tolerance-if so tolerate the legitimate concerns of your fellow posters.

You talk of drinking and driving as 'a damn stupid thing to do'-it's not just that-it's potentially preconceived carnage of innocent road users.

If people are stupid enough, or arrogant enough to flout the law and risk the lives of their fellows (to say nothing of their own), it's very convenient just to be 'caught and dealt with' as you put it.

Others have correctly pointed out that it could just as easily have ended in tragedy, and our player might currently be awaiting a lengthy jail sentence and lifetime ban.

People who condone drink driving in however small measure are just as guilty as those who indulge.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 09:55:45
QUOTE(KingsTON @ Feb 22 2008, 09:40 AM) [snapback]408294[/snapback]
They're seemingly on again today at 10.30 - 12 , Battery again...

Have they all got the JM heart monitors fitted in case they go too fast?



, Jim McInally has been good for our Club. I have watched his training methods, and his support for the sports sciences which I found impressive; for example, the team train with heart monitors on from which the management can monitor the players performances while ensuring that no player over exerts himself.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 09:58:10
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 22 2008, 09:49 AM) [snapback]408295[/snapback]
I watched Wendy make her weekly gaff yesterday. She stood to question Salmond with the opening line about the SNP lead council in Aberdeen. Salmond suggested she should maybe ask Nicol Steven the question as it's a Lib-Dem lead council ! laugh.gif
How can she get fundemental questions wrong on a weekly basis ? It's even worse than amateurish. blink.gif

As for Salmond, a superb politician on top of his game. No surprise none of the opposition leaders can't even lay a glove on him tongue.gif

I wonder if he's ever been touched by the Sturgeon's gloves.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 10:13:02
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Feb 22 2008, 10:06 AM) [snapback]408301[/snapback]
Look, I know what can happen, but here's the thing. Nothing happened. So we can bitch and moan on here all we want and nothing will change, and that's my point.

I'm not condoning it. I'm only saying that now that he's been punished by a court of law, we should be getting behind the player now that he's been convicted. It IS up to the courts after all.

Fair enough, and I've already said it won't affect how I regard him as a footballer.

It's just that I understand the potential seriousness of the offence (which I'm sure you do too) and feel others are entitled to say their say, especially if their lives have been affected by drink driving.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 10:14:50
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 22 2008, 10:09 AM) [snapback]408302[/snapback]
That's your fantasy old boy laugh.gif

Frankly I'd rather fumble in Bendy's purse! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 10:24:32
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 22 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]408305[/snapback]
Naw ye wind'ny laugh.gif

Isn't that where she stuffs the 'munny'?
mortonjag 2008-02-22 11:09:36
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 22 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]408316[/snapback]
I wouldn't defend his views on faith schools for a start. He and I disagree fundamentally on that one.

To get back to the main subject, seems daft to me to be releasing nutters, including killers, just because some eejit in Brussels says they should get compensation if they are too securely held. Too secure? So what? Nevertheless, was the ministerial statement not to the effect that they would have a veto on the worst offenders? Sounds like a useful safety net to me.

It will be poetic justice if one of those 'nutters' escapes from a less secure unit, and kills one of those 'eejits'.

I would quite like that, though I suspect that makes me bad.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 11:12:58
QUOTE(KingsTON @ Feb 22 2008, 11:06 AM) [snapback]408322[/snapback]
Its on the Astroturf aye , no idea about heart monitors though haha.

Think Davie Irons wants them to show they've got heart without needing a monitor to do it

Is Mr Rae keeking oot his windae?
mortonjag 2008-02-22 11:23:23
QUOTE(dmc @ Feb 21 2008, 10:51 PM) [snapback]408202[/snapback]
By the way do any of you lot want any messages passed on to Davie or Deeks?? unsure.gif mellow.gif wink.gif

The monkey says to tell Mr Rae to stuff the job. At least he got a reply from E.Stirling.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 11:25:15
QUOTE(foxy @ Feb 22 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]408323[/snapback]
Scotrail kindly stopped the trains again today, no idea if it was for the full journey. Gourock to Glasgow but had to get the Mcgills bus which was packed. didnt help when 1 old lady didnt bother giving someone her spare seat until i asked her to move.
If it was any of us taking up 2 seats im sure she would be first to moan

What if it was a very, very, very fat old lady? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 11:29:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 22 2008, 11:19 AM) [snapback]408327[/snapback]
It's a long way to the shop if you wanna sausage roll...

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Even longer if the shop's an ironmonger's.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 11:30:22
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Feb 22 2008, 11:26 AM) [snapback]408331[/snapback]
shoued have to pay twice bring in the fat tax lol

That's discrimination against greedy pigs obese people pedro. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 11:34:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 22 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]408338[/snapback]
It's a long way to the top if you play at Cappielow ??

the wrong?
mortonjag 2008-02-22 11:37:02
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Feb 22 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]408337[/snapback]
Would need to have some view, considering he lives about 3/4 miles away blink.gif

I meant the windae in the sweatshop sweet factory!
mortonjag 2008-02-22 11:40:06
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Feb 22 2008, 11:36 AM) [snapback]408343[/snapback]
Take up 2 seats pay 2 fairs whers the discrimination in that

Do anorexic people get for half price if they only fill half a seat?
mortonjag 2008-02-22 11:44:57
QUOTE(ianton @ Feb 22 2008, 11:39 AM) [snapback]408347[/snapback]
if not mentioned before on here,this is probably the reason he has been s***e for us up to now.maybe he can now get on with concentrating on playing with the form that made us sign him.what's done is done,now lets please move on.should be no more to be said on this thread.

Unless I'm mistaken, the offence occurred only a week or so back.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 12:46:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 22 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]408353[/snapback]
Well, mortonjag, one thing is for sure ...

It's a long way to the top if you manage at Cappielow !!!

Aye the toilet wall must be almost three metres high!
mortonjag 2008-02-22 12:48:54
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Feb 22 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]408358[/snapback]
it was a video shop up untll the early 90's
the Video shop on the corrner it is now flats

Aye but video shops did not exist before 1980
mortonjag 2008-02-22 12:56:12
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 22 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]408350[/snapback]
actually yes. mortonjag.

Some airlines are planning to weigh their passengers as well as their baggage.

Just using high oil prices to rip off more for fares - sorry, surcharges.

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That's interesting-will there be all sorts of exemptions for all sorts of people with all sorts of conditions excuses, and will they expect their G.P.s to provide wee letters free of charge as usual in their 24/7 surgeries?
mortonjag 2008-02-22 13:00:09
QUOTE(Capuan @ Feb 22 2008, 12:26 PM) [snapback]408361[/snapback]
There was an overhead line dewirement between Bishopton and St.James this morning due to high winds.

It is unlikely the trains will be running again today. Although there is a replacement bus service from Gourock/Wemyss Bay - Paisley.

Our cat once had to get that done-you have to give them pills.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 13:13:09
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 22 2008, 01:04 PM) [snapback]408377[/snapback]

Can just imagine our good Flight Ton having to 'weigh' the breasts of the lady passengers of ample proportions.


With big cheesy grin

'Now if you could just slip out of your bra, madam--and here we go........



Wey, wey wey wey'. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 13:17:35
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 22 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]408378[/snapback]
it only happened on the 10th of february, now if he can tell the future and knew it was going to happen and it was on his mind and thats why he was playing s***e then i can forgive him tongue.gif

Which was the day after the Clyde game. Perhaps the players felt they had something to celebrate in the impending resignation of JM, but still no reason to drive at the same time!
mortonjag 2008-02-22 13:20:34
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Feb 21 2008, 03:45 PM) [snapback]408035[/snapback]
Anyone on here play online?

What's your name on it?

Aye, ah canny resist thae weans games.

Ma name's Ebenezer Fudgemaker.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 14:39:25
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Feb 22 2008, 01:53 PM) [snapback]408396[/snapback]
Some people are never happy unless they are moaning about something.

They are known by some people as negativity boys!
mortonjag 2008-02-22 14:46:20
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Feb 22 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]408399[/snapback]
OK Mr Pedant. My point was that the court has imposed a punishment - it's not really for us to criticise McGuffie because we feel that hanging would be more appropriate - any criticism, as you suggest, should be of the legal system itself.

I'm sure the guy knows he's been a stupid arse, and I hope he learns his lesson.

To be clear, I have not attempted to "dictate" anything to anyone - I have suggested that the courts have already dealt with it and that, as far as the legal side of it goes, is that.

If you really want to continue to crucify the guy, after he has been punished by the law, please feel free! :unsure:

I don't want to crucify him, but so long as clowns keep pushing the 'so the guy made a wee mistake' stuff, I guess this thread will trundle on. The guy made a MONSTROUS mistake-some might even say a deliberately MONSTROUS mistake, and could easily have killed.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 14:50:43
QUOTE(Toby @ Feb 22 2008, 02:12 PM) [snapback]408408[/snapback]
Well why do you think Irons has been appointed? To look at the three main candidates, Irons certainly strikes me as the weakest personality amongst the three, I don't think there's any doubt about that.

Using the word bitch could perhaps be considered harsh, although I'd prefer to use the term exagerated, but in making this appointment, my reading of it is that Raemanov will be sitting back thinking he's pulled off a masterstroke because he'll still have significant influence in signings, team selection (or "advice for his manager" on team selection) and will still have access to the dressing room before games as Irons has proved himself already to be a yes man to a higher power in his previous role.

Feel free to correct me further down the line, but that's my prediction of how things'll turn out and i don't expect to be proven wrong.

Oh well Toby if he's a successful 'yes' man we'll all be happy.

What is it exactly you mean about his previous role?
mortonjag 2008-02-22 15:05:11
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 22 2008, 02:11 PM) [snapback]408407[/snapback]
I have already seen this in action Newton.
Last year at Stanstead airport they made a gentleman (I will term him a big lump of a boy) go on the baggage scales in front of several hundred people and then promptly attempted to charge him double.
Argument ensued which I did not see the conclusion of but by the looks of his mother she would more than likely have been subject to the same conditions.

As long as they where used as ballast I have no problems.

What-one hanging down under each wing?
mortonjag 2008-02-22 15:18:36
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Feb 22 2008, 03:05 PM) [snapback]408434[/snapback]
1. I'm not suggesting that what he did was ok. Clearly it was not.
2. I agree you have the right to hold whatever point of view you currently have.
3. You state it was a mistake (which I'm not sure it was - I think it was an act of stupidity) - there are very few of us exempt from them.
4. What, exactly, do you want done about it - or are you just belly-aching?

What I want is for posters who are calling others 'sanctimonious' and words to that effect to have a think.

We all make mistakes, but there is an insidious suggestion from some that we also all include drink driving among them, and have no right to criticise just because we ain't been caught.


THAT is what I object to. Some of us are more responsible.

This messageboard is notorious for its fickleness, and I guess the very clowns who are belittling an extremely serious sin of COMMISSION, would be the ones campaigning hardest for a public execution if a drunk driver ran over their unattended carry outs.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 15:49:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 22 2008, 03:41 PM) [snapback]408451[/snapback]
that is drag - not ballast

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I thought drag was something different Newt-I suppose it depends on the relative weight of the aircraft and the bodies! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 15:52:51
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Feb 22 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]408443[/snapback]
With you Midton comes across as point scoring now

Question for Toby and the rest was Cowboy known as a yes man before he came

Do you men a 'yeth' man?
mortonjag 2008-02-22 15:57:25
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 22 2008, 03:32 PM) [snapback]408446[/snapback]
Being t-total is the way forward, I've not touched a drop for more than 5 months now. ohmy.gif
I've been to 3 hospitality days this season and not touched a drop of alcohol at any of them, it's an extremely cheap drinks bill with prices at 50p fer can of soft drink. wink.gif

50p for a can of juice-total rip off!
mortonjag 2008-02-22 15:59:36
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Feb 22 2008, 03:45 PM) [snapback]408454[/snapback]
Unattended carry-outs! What a suggestion.

I certainly didn't intend to imply he'd made a mistake - it was stupidity. But we all suffer from that sometimes, even if not that particular form.

On the rest of your post we can agree.

Although, I would think that those who feel themselves to be labelled "sanctimonious" should be well enough able to defend themselves, given the fickleness of this forum.

We all make mistakes!
mortonjag 2008-02-22 16:02:09 I couldn't give a f*ck to be honest, and I won't dream of commenting on anything the new management has done until 4.45 p.m. tomorrow.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 16:05:53 Whatever happened to the 'Skite' boys. They used to form a wee group at the Sinclair St end and shout 'SKITE' when the goalie was hitting the ball.

What was so funny was that they could never time it right, and the ball was always well away before the shout came out. They were still a rare laugh mind!
mortonjag 2008-02-22 16:08:27
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 22 2008, 04:02 PM) [snapback]408467[/snapback]
You would be hard pushed to buy a single can of juice from from any small store for under 60p never mind from a licenced bar.

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I buy in bulk from whoever's doing the best deals.

Anyway, will Shoogly not let you take in your own drink? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 16:15:02 Try disconnecting the router from the mains for at least a minute to make sure it resets properly.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 16:16:56
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 22 2008, 04:15 PM) [snapback]408481[/snapback]
Like wise but you cannot bring a bag of cans to the hospitality with you, Morrisons were doing 24 cans of Irn Bru for £3.50 last week.

FFS Jim-I hope it was DIET Irn Bru!!!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 16:19:46
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 22 2008, 03:32 PM) [snapback]408445[/snapback]
Naw, who is the current "naked" table tennis champion

You sound excited!
mortonjag 2008-02-22 16:59:15
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Feb 22 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]408486[/snapback]
Ye Gods the holier than thou Brigade
out in Force again

GET A LIFE

foobs cool.gif

SORRY?

This thread will keep running until the 'holier than holier than thou' brigade get a f*ckin' life foobs.

Wake up and smell the coffee.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 19:48:32 a big issue seller does not require to be homeless. maybe you should buy one sometime


I see smart arse-and are those poor souls 'at risk' of homelessness because the nasty indigenous Scots are about to drive them out? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Vendors

Becoming a Vendor

In order to sell the Big Issue, you must be homeless or at risk of homelessness.

When a prospective vendor comes to The Big Issue, they are asked to provide proof that they are homeless (e.g. receipts from any hostels that they have been staying in) or a letter of referral.



Oh and I have bought a copy now and again, and ended up wondering why the f*ck I bothered. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 19:50:43
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 22 2008, 05:41 PM) [snapback]408515[/snapback]
Overhead line problems - they'll have to use McGills. tongue.gif

They will not be fighting over empty seats-thats for sure.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 19:59:59
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 22 2008, 05:48 PM) [snapback]408521[/snapback]
yeah it's interesting that the church allows u to screw your missus when u have no intention of conceiving as long as you use the rhythm method. johnnies, they say, are a "barrier" method and therefore are bad. go figure.

Is that the same as playing Vatican Roulette?
mortonjag 2008-02-22 20:14:46 I have been in hospitality once, and though I enjoyed it, I felt it was overrated.

May have been partly to do with the fact that I was driving!
mortonjag 2008-02-22 20:29:03
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 22 2008, 07:43 PM) [snapback]408564[/snapback]
it's difficult these days, but congratulations! you've made it into the top ten most stupid things i've ever seen on this messageboard, and you've only been around for a few months. i'll keep an eye out for you; you have potential.

two of my friends have been done for drink-driving. if only i'd known they were equivalent to murderers i could've had a right good shunning at their expense.

Never to late to learn then. Only fate prevented the mishaps.

Drink driving is arguably a far more serious offence than carrying a knife.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 20:34:05
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 22 2008, 08:29 PM) [snapback]408582[/snapback]
A percentage of them yes. biggrin.gif

But DDF may be wise not to do one of his cringe worthy speeches tomorrow or I will be the first to tell him where to go.

We are after all not worthy. wink.gif

Will he be able to resist the temptation, I wonder?

He was out on the pitch before the Dundee game-mind you those were the away fans whom he seems to imagine don't go to Cappielow.

I'd give odds of 2-5 on him making a public announcement.....and 500-1 against the Cowshed givin' it 'Dougie...Dougie'!

mortonjag 2008-02-22 20:37:06
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 22 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]408577[/snapback]
Ah..... but the rhythm method still leaves open the possibility of impregnation, should God so wish. laugh.gif

Daft I know, but that's the 'logic'. I'm sure if He was so determined God could quite easily burst a johnny. Piece of pish compared to a lot of other stuff He did in the bible.

Wouldn't be the first time either! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 20:44:45
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 22 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]408588[/snapback]
Ach can you just not indulge auld Dougie FFS. rolleyes.gif

Life's too short, and if an old man talking s***e on a football pitch angers you so much then maybe you should take a look at yourself. wink.gif

I think you may have a point CHC-what's wrong with old men talking sh*te on football pitches-it can be thoroughly entertaining if you're into farce in a big way.


Let's have more old men talking sh*te on football pitches I say, wondering which child poster will first attempt to turn that into an insult on my person! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 20:47:55
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 22 2008, 08:39 PM) [snapback]408589[/snapback]
.... as is God's will laugh.gif

I always had this vision of some religious fanatic roaming the Durex factory with a pin.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 20:49:59
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 22 2008, 08:46 PM) [snapback]408591[/snapback]
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Aye, you and Dougie have a lot more in common than you think. tongue.gif

I'm well aware of that-or is that a contradiction? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 21:32:54
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 22 2008, 08:52 PM) [snapback]408595[/snapback]
Not going to get involved in this debate, as i will undoubtedly get called a racist.

But here is a wee link to a story that was first published in the Sunday Herald a few months ago, it is bloody sickening and terrifying to say the very least:

http://fighthumantraffickingnews.blogspot....streets-of.html

Police are concerned that allegations could ramp up racial tensions in an area already under inter-ethnic strain. Many locals in Govanhill from the Pakistani and white communities are openly racist about Roma people.

That is exactly what I have been pointing out-ALL established Scottish communities in Glasgow, at least, resent what's going on, but the authorities don't want to know, and it's no comfort to read the uninformed and wishy washy bleatings of the forum's 'do gooders'.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 21:37:56 Gentlemen, there is little credit due to Bawheid-bendy Wendy, like most Labour politicians in Scottish history has the wit of a mensa mouse.

Come to think of it Salmond is just a big leering poosy.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 21:39:35
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 22 2008, 09:38 PM) [snapback]408610[/snapback]
I've not opened it yet cos I'm in a really good mood these days, and I'm worried this thread will just contain the usual xenophobic and borderline racist nonsense taken straight from the tabloids as 'fact' which will undoubtedly make me angry and generally put me in a downer.

Is it safe to open or am I right?

My advice is that you stay safely cocooned in your ivory tower.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 21:53:28
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 22 2008, 09:41 PM) [snapback]408614[/snapback]
Not an Ivory Tower at all Mortonjag, as I think you know I love the cut and thrust of a lively debate. tongue.gif

I just prefer it when those involved don't get their points of reference from The Sun or The Daily Mail, that's all.

Well forgetting Mr Bam who is just pushing his own ideology, many are I guess.

It so happens that mortonjag speaks from first hand experience-the natives here are restless-the whole multicultural mix, the virtues of which Mr Bam extols, is up in arms. Scots of all ethnic origins who see this unbridled immigration at first hand are pretty brassed off-none more than the Asian communities of Govanhill and surrounding areas.

Multicultural racism, multilingual xenophobia-call it what you will-it exists.

As I said in the other thread, if you admire the dumping process, and wish to promote it, please ask for delivery to your home address.

As I also said-I don't BLAME those immigrants-nobody turns down a free lunch ticket.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 21:56:28
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 22 2008, 09:45 PM) [snapback]408616[/snapback]
Frankly Colkitto, that's irrelevant sexist nonsense.

I couldn't give a f*** if she had a humphy back and one eye, that's not the issue, and you cheapen yourself and your argument by bringing her appearance into it.

...even if she is some ugly bitch.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 22:06:53
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 22 2008, 09:59 PM) [snapback]408629[/snapback]
picking fights with the new posters already eh? you jealous you're no longer considered a new poster? tongue.gif

He's just heard a rumour that Tontaster's been told by Tontastic to change his name to Wake's Walloper.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 22:16:49
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 22 2008, 10:03 PM) [snapback]408630[/snapback]
You see that's my whole point. You're suggesting that immigration is on the whole a drain on society, which has been proven by study after study to be untrue. Immigration boosts the economy, that's a fact. Sorry if it's an inconvenient fact, but it's one nevertheless.

Unqualified assertions like those ARE the stuff of the tabloids.

Let me tell you this young man laugh.gif the selective and concentrated immigration which has so many Glaswegians 'up in arms' is indisputably a negative economic factor.

...so I agree with your generalisation, and ask you to have the grace to accept the wisdom of the grass roots!

As for fresh faced youths in their Inverclyde towers of tusk-well put quite simply


THEY HAVEN'T A F*CKIN CLUE.

..and as to capricious copulators out East somewhere-NUFF SAID.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 22:21:35
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 22 2008, 10:18 PM) [snapback]408639[/snapback]
I forgive you all that s***e simply because you called me 'young man'. tongue.gif

Cheers auld yin. wink.gif



Oh I imagine I'm old enough to be your father



...oh my GOD... surely NOT!!!!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 22:31:15
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 22 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]408634[/snapback]
Only able to do one job in the entire country?
Jeezo that's not's very flexible.
Now the Romanian has the exact same level, impresses at both application and interview after arriving a week earlier, and is willing to work his erse off for a far lower wage?
Then he/she/he-she is clearly the best suited person for the job.
Looks like these hard-working parents will have to find some other job somewhere in the country, mebbe fighting it out to the death in a kind of "Employment Deathmatch".
Actually, it is a hypothetical as, well, there aren't any further education fees for them to be paying, no?
And if they're unemployed, the graduate endowment is means-tested, no?
If you wish to have a free-market economy and wish to allow people freedom of movement (which the West only campaigned for for the last 60 years) then you're going to have to face the consequences of migration.
Build a bridge and get over it.

Well sonny, I've done my stint, and that included looking after folk of all ethnicities without prejudice.

I'm lucky-I've earned my wee pension, and I don't have to compete with cheap foreign labour, but Willow makes a valid point, and your like for like analogy is a joke. They get the jobs because they are willing to work for less-they are breaking no rules-agreed-but that doesn't mean our locals are wrong to be upset. That's talking about free movement of labour.

Indiscriminate dumping is different. You don't seem to have any views on that, or do you imagine it's not happening? Just wait till those twenty train loads arrive on Monday.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 22:37:55
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 22 2008, 10:25 PM) [snapback]408642[/snapback]
mortonjag, you're old enough to be my grandfather, if not in age then in outlook. tongue.gif

Indeed your views are frequently puerile, but time is on your side!
mortonjag 2008-02-22 22:45:06
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 22 2008, 10:41 PM) [snapback]408655[/snapback]
Thank God I'm going to Glasgow on Monday tongue.gif

How's the evacuation of the West End progressing Willow-has Shoogly been moved into the temporary caravan yet?
mortonjag 2008-02-22 22:47:44
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 22 2008, 10:34 PM) [snapback]408650[/snapback]
Someone once stole my imaginary friend's identity.

...and you fell in love and lived happily ever after?
mortonjag 2008-02-22 22:49:45
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 22 2008, 10:46 PM) [snapback]408658[/snapback]
Indeed, I'll still be talking pish long after you're pushing up the daisies. tongue.gif

...no need to lower the tone-and we call them pansies over here.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 22:51:13
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Feb 22 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]408660[/snapback]
Were people not having the same debate 40+ years ago about Pakistani and Indian migrants?
They'll be pleased they have finally moved off the bottom of the foodchain and are seen as decent hard working scottish citizens....

in 1960 my post would have probably read:

Were people not having the same debate 140+ (190 years from 2008) years ago about Irish catholic migrants?
They'll be pleased they have finally moved off the bottom of the foodchain and are seen as decent hard working scottish citizens....

NO
mortonjag 2008-02-22 22:52:35
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 22 2008, 10:51 PM) [snapback]408666[/snapback]
Homophobe! mad.gif

You misunderstand-I think pansies are beautiful.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 22:56:35
QUOTE(Oozie @ Feb 22 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]408664[/snapback]
I've been told through a good source that a celeb will be in Morton Hospitality tomorrow.
I don't wanna spoil your surprise - you'll find out tomorrow, not sure what lounge he's in.

He's there every time Oozie-wearing the same suit, tie, and smile!
mortonjag 2008-02-22 22:58:32
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 22 2008, 10:54 PM) [snapback]408670[/snapback]
Gaylord! mad.gif

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Anyway I'm off to bed with the Monkey-and YES-he is male.

Goodnight and God bless.
mortonjag 2008-02-23 07:40:52
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 22 2008, 11:55 PM) [snapback]408703[/snapback]
jesus, this thread's almost as predictable as the original. not quite as disturbing but i suppose that's only a matter of time.

Life's archetypal pragmatist claims to be 'disturbed'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-23 07:44:39
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 22 2008, 11:04 PM) [snapback]408677[/snapback]
Well Loyal lass nipped out for a celebratory drink with PrincessTON and unknown to her I took advantage and moved her out her house there and then.

PrincessTon will be spending her 18th and last Birthday in her current dwellings as she's next to go.

That Edwards character is causing some problems but when he's in hospitality tomorrow I plan on sending the Sheriff Officers to take his place as well.

Forza was hooked out tongue.gif
Shoogly was no problem but I discovered some JM material in the house he evacuated.
Very disturbing stuff about the plan to keep Irons & Collins till the summer of 2009 and then bring in someone with the initials JM biggrin.gif
All in all it's going well but the residents of No.1 South Street are having a Lay Down Protest ohmy.gif

Seems to be going quite well then. They're all rather excited up here-never been to the seaside except when it's been 'Baltic'.
mortonjag 2008-02-23 07:49:47
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 23 2008, 12:55 AM) [snapback]408742[/snapback]
u call me smart arse purely cos i'm smarter than you. i take that as a compliment. thankyou.

once again you are completely wrong. there are many big issue sellers who have a house and the editor of the publication is aware of this and encourages it.

would you be happier if big issue sellers crawled out of a gutter to sell the mag then crawled back into the ditch?

talking of burdens to society, your lot are vastly over paid. but u can fanny about on a fat tax- payer paid pension and attempt to take the c*** out of other posters on here.

I see-so it IS as corrupt as I always suspected, and YOU condone it!

I'm not sure what you mean by 'my lot' and 'my fat tax payer paid pension'.

That sort of comment doesn't even annoy me forza-I just pity your total ignorance of the subject in general, and my circumstances in particular.

I didn't think you had a chip on your shoulder-now I.m beginning to wonder.
mortonjag 2008-02-23 07:51:28
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 23 2008, 01:46 AM) [snapback]408800[/snapback]
he'll give you a pish poor comeback mathie. you'd be as well not reading it.

s***! i was supposed to keep away from this thread but it's hard to ignore the diarrhea that's been splattered over the walls of the forum

Then try some codeine phosphate.
mortonjag 2008-02-23 08:06:10
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 23 2008, 02:30 AM) [snapback]408850[/snapback]
CrawfordJag, I'll have a quid on that, it'll see my overdraft sorted for this month.

You just know that it will happen.

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That would not surprise me, but the odds stand!
mortonjag 2008-02-23 08:14:35
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 23 2008, 12:44 AM) [snapback]408732[/snapback]
i take it circumstances don't count?

my parents live on a street in greenock where no children can play outside because people of all backgrounds, incomes and taste roar up it at 50+ miles an hour as there are no give way signs to slow them down*. is that comparable to someone who drives 300 metres down the road in a highland village at 3am after having 3 glasses of wine?

*or else because they're utter ignorant arseholes.

i know who is the bigger danger, but don't let me burst your stupid wee bubble of sanctimonious, yes sanctimous, comfort.

t***.

...and totally against the odds knocks down and kills an old crofter who sleep walked out of his Butt and Ben. Maybe it was three large glasses of 14% ABV, he had previously been teetotal, and aye, he was well under the influence.

In this day and age anybody who condones drinking and driving (in whatever measure and circumstances) is a dangerous anti-social fool.

Same applies to those who condone driving under the influence of drugs.
mortonjag 2008-02-23 08:23:19
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 23 2008, 02:02 AM) [snapback]408821[/snapback]
The guy did wrong there is no doubt of that. No one here is condoning what he has done and rightly so he has been punished in a court of law.

He now has to face living with the knowledge that he could have seriously injured if not killed not only himself but someone else. The guy wasn't and still isn't walking about with thoughts in his head of intentionally killing someone. It has been said that he doesn't normally drink and apparently he had only a couple of drinks so before anyone says it, yes, if drinking it is better not to drive no matter how much you intend to or have consumed.

MJ, with you being a doctor you will be more than aware of the effects of alcohol differ from person to person dependent on many factors such as male/female, weight, metabolism, when they last ate.

So take into account : -
  • He doesn't normally drink (not really an excuse)
  • He only had a couple (again, still too many)
  • We don't know what he drank. For all we know it was 2 1/2 pints of shandy.


So, yes, I think we can say it was a mistake albiet a massive mistake of judgement on his part. If the law stated you should not drink and drive at all I by all means we should sacrifice him to the gods in the WDE after all, we are out of sacrificial goats and as we live in Greenock there most certainly are not any virgins.

3000-3500 people a year are killed by drink driving which is apparently 1 out of every 7 fatal accidents involving a car which means that the other 6 are being caused by : -

People driving when using a mobile phone/eating/smoking etc anything that distracts them from the task in hand. How many of you have done one of those ?

Speeding. How many of you drivers out there have points on your license for this ?
Driving while tired. How many of you have done this ?

Accidents. How many of you have been involved in an accindent you were responsible for ?

General stupidity. Anyone suffer from this ?

If you fall into anyone of those categories you are also in real danger of killing someone so should we be handing out bans and jail sentences to people who are caught doing any of the above also ?

I think what I am getting at here is that yes the boy has done wrong but as a driver myself I know I am willing to hold my hands up to doing a few of those things so I will not judge him simply based on this matter. I think most people will have a relation, friend, friend of a friend who we all know to be decent people but who have been caught drink driving whether it be not long after they have consumed the alcohol or the following day thinking they were fine.

PS : How many of my mg of alchohol per 100ml of breath should we restrict users of this forum to before allowing them access to be in control of a keyboard ?

PPS: How many units of alcohol in a home measure ?

It's very clear that some people are more able to control a motor vehicle after-say- four pints of lager- than others may be after only one, and that is the VERY REASON why it has to be zero tolerance IMO. Otherwise peope ARE tempted to gamble on 'not being over the limit'.

I believe my analogy with carrying a knife holds-do it and you'll end up in jail, even if you were only going to peel yer Grannies tatties.

As in Sweden, and other more civilised countries, people found in charge of a motor vehicle with alcohol in the bloodstream should be banned.

Draconian-YES-and it might just save the life of one of your loved ones.
mortonjag 2008-02-23 08:28:00
QUOTE(Toby @ Feb 23 2008, 03:18 AM) [snapback]408886[/snapback]
He has already been proven as Wadsworth's yes man in his previous role.
Jim, you're the guy that started a thread to start a "Say No To Duffy" campaign. I've never said I won't give Irons a chance, he'll get my full support from the start, just like McInally did. However, if and when things go wrong, I will criticise. I've expressed reservations about the appointment, obviously Jona's not happy about me referring to Irons as Raemanov's "bitch", but in my opinion that is exactly what he wants him to be. He's a control freak by nature and by appointing weak personalities he has been allowed to exercise more control than he should, to the detriment of the

team. And while I'll say I'll be quick to criticise, if Irons turns out to be a success, I'll also be quick to step down and from my soap box and congratulate him. As I did with McInally incidently.
Cowboy was actually my choice at the time, and back then I was more "happy clapper" than "boo boy", so whoever was appointed I'd look at things with rose tinted glasses the way your PieHutt's and Scott Gillans do now. And no, I wouldn't consider him to be a yes man, but I would never expect to see somone of his ilk ever appointed by Raemanov again.
A couple of things here. You, probably more than most know most of my opinions on McInally with the TTG campaign. One of my major problems with him was that he allowed Raemanov to dictate things to him. It would appear to me (and the vast majority of onlookers at the Gretna situation) that Irons did the exact same thing. A manager (a "gaffer", a "boss") that allows himself to be dictated to by those above him loses a great deal of credibility if he's not prepared to stand up for himself. McInally wasn't prepared to do that, what evidence is there that Irons would? Very little in my eyes going by the formbook.

I note also your caricature reference? Really don't know what you expect me to say. "Yes, everything's great, I think this will be a brilliant appointment", when clearly I don't? I might come across as someone looking to stir up trouble in the nice cosy little tea party but I'm not going to stand back and say what folk want to hear just because it fits in with the party line.

So, now onto the brightside. Irons is reputed to be an excellent coach, so was McInally, doesn't make him a good manager; training has been a vast improvement, this always happens when a new manager comes in, as folk start to concern themselves with starting places, contracts etc.; he was the man behind Gretna's rise up the leagues, if memory serves me correct, while things were shakey when Alexander went on the panel, once he took the top job at Gretna, things really went tits up and they nearly blew it.

In my first post (Yes, the one I described Irons as Raemanov's bitch), I stated that I will give Irons my full support initailly. However, not to consider the points I've made would be to bury your head in the sand.

We don't have to agree on everything, but every point I have made about this appointment is relevant, whether you think it is nit-picking, s***-stirring, attention-seeking or whatever.




In the sense that Wadsworth was his boss, and is notoriously a ruthless tyrant, I suspect Irons may have had no choice but to accept certain things. That doesn't make him a 'Yes Man' in my book, though you maybe can give more detail to illustrate your point.

One of the reasons you're getting a hard time Toby, is that you've chosen to pass judgement before the fact. You clearly have sincere and serious reservations about Irons' ability to take full charge, and I sincerely hope you are wrong.

One thing IS for sure, Mr Rae WILL still be expecting to get his own way.

An interesting couple of months lie ahead.
mortonjag 2008-02-23 08:59:07 It depends what you want from a place. Dunoon has just about everything you could want, albeit in small measure, and has the additional beauty of the surrounding Cowal Peninsula. Property prices have caught up in the last two or three years but are still quite competitive. The cost of commuting has to be taken on board-it ain't cheap, and is time consuming, and sometimes psychologically draining. Local education standards are above the national average, and crime is relatively uncommon, though there is a 'hard core' of neddery as in every Scottish provincial town. The pace of life is far from rural, but not nearly as frenetic as in the 'big smoke'.

Oh and the local traffic warden is a c*nt from Hell!
mortonjag 2008-02-23 10:10:29
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Feb 23 2008, 09:20 AM) [snapback]408958[/snapback]
I can't believe we didn't go for Duffy. He's the outstanding candidate. I wouldn't have minded a Duffy/Collins team. Irons was a weird one, without the Ton connection with Collins, it woudn't have happened?

Apparently Jim Duffy was miffed and stated that at his interview he felt that Rae had already made up his mind he wanted Irons/Deeks, and was annoyed.

I don't see Irons as being any more experienced than McINally, indeed probably less experienced!!!

And I am worried about their lack of loyalty...Collins left us for the money when the going got tough, to our rivals! Him and Irons undermine Alexander and take over his team. Then when the broon stuff inevitably hits the fan at Gretna, they are out of their like a shot.

They are a bit mercenary, if you ask me. I'm also worried about the ethics of taking Brooks Mileson's management team while he's dying in his sickbed!?!?!??

Mad decision, but i hope they do well.



I can assure you that it's not Irons and Collins who are guilty of unethical behaviour. So far as I can gather Mr Mileson has been very ill, but at no time has there been an official announcement that he's dying.

Collins, for example, had no contract at Gretna, and ended up not even being paid wages he was owed. I don't regard that as a very 'ethical' way to run a business.
mortonjag 2008-02-23 10:15:47
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Feb 23 2008, 09:19 AM) [snapback]408957[/snapback]
"That (McInally's resignation] vexed me," explained Rae, a businessman who has made his personal fortune in confectionery after starting out as an agent in 1959. "We had a great relationship for three-and-a-half years here, never had a disagreement or an argument and Jim was perfect to work with.
thats one of the reason why he was never going to succeed at the club

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The story of the last three years in one sentence.


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mortonjag 2008-02-23 10:21:07
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 23 2008, 09:28 AM) [snapback]408963[/snapback]

Talk about putting the boot in!
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mortonjag 2008-02-23 10:25:47 Happy birthday Standman!






































Forza, son, I just realised I was already making contributions towards that pension before you were born!

Anyway-have a good one! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-23 10:26:55
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Feb 23 2008, 10:21 AM) [snapback]408988[/snapback]
Putting the boot into the boot. Get it up her! smile.gif

After you!
mortonjag 2008-02-23 10:38:45
QUOTE(stuart @ Feb 23 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]408952[/snapback]
Harsh words about the traffic warden, I think he is an ok guy but sometimes the way he speaks to you isn't too nice. The local paper did "a day with the traffic warden" type feature to try and get people onside with him actually.

The commute to and from Glasgow isn't that bad. Getting on the ferry at 10 to the hour sees you in Glasgow at o clock in the next hour (1 hour 10 mins journey) and it's about £15 a week for passenger travel on the boat. Lovely way to start the day in the summer months, reading the papers on the ferry, nightmare in Winter.

Nope!

If you've been in the town recently, you'll know that as you come along the one way system from the pier, there is parking on the right hand side just after Ferry Brae. I parked just outside the autoteller, and had hardly got my card in when I saw that arsehole about to 'pounce'.

I asked him what I was doing wrong, and he said 'You're parked in a disabled bay'. There had indeed been lines and writing (which I had not been aware of) but they had been rubbed off by traffic, and were so faint he had to point them out to me-but he wouldn't let go.

I tried to be polite, but he was lovin' it-so I pulled out my digital camera-took a photo of the virtually non existent lines, and said, 'Book me if you like, and I'll see you in court'. He then backed off, but not at all graciously. My brother, who lives in Dunoon, told me that there has been some newspaper feature in which he was described as the 'most hated traffic warden in Scotland'.
mortonjag 2008-02-23 10:46:45
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 23 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]408998[/snapback]
The jag loves the sloppy seconds ohmy.gif

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Actually I wonder if entry would be possible-I've heard on some kind of authority that Ms Sheridan and Bendy Wendy describe their private parts as 'safe deposit boxes'.
mortonjag 2008-02-23 10:50:12
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 23 2008, 10:44 AM) [snapback]409003[/snapback]
Whereabouts in Innellan, btw, down the front or up the back?

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If you're asking where Inellan is- it's a separate village situated further down the peninsula in the direction of Toward Point.
mortonjag 2008-02-23 10:55:04
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 23 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]409009[/snapback]
I'm asking the question that I asked, read it again.

I have read it again-and I did suspect you were NOT asking of its whereabouts, but I don't understand your question in isolation! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-23 10:57:11
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 23 2008, 10:53 AM) [snapback]409010[/snapback]
What authority would that be? The monkey been doing the rounds? wink.gif

One of the Monkey's uncles works at the Scottish Office! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-23 10:59:28
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 23 2008, 10:56 AM) [snapback]409013[/snapback]
Unlucky.

Hmm-


Whereabouts in Sandbank btw, down the front or up the back?
mortonjag 2008-02-23 11:32:10
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 23 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]409020[/snapback]
Ooops. laugh.gif

Excuse my ignorance, I didn't have the benefit of a good bead-rattling education like yourself. tongue.gif

I'm sure He could part the Sea of Galilee though, if He wanted to.

That was the one he walked on-before they put holes in his feet mind you!
mortonjag 2008-02-23 11:34:09
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 23 2008, 11:30 AM) [snapback]409026[/snapback]
Could you two do your homo-erotic flirting elsewhere, you're putting me off my Corn Flakes.

Try oat bran flakes-they're much better for your heart!
mortonjag 2008-02-23 11:41:22
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 23 2008, 10:59 AM) [snapback]409015[/snapback]
I don't condone drink driving and no one should. It is not, however, for us to punish the guy further. The courts have dealt out justice in this case and he will suffer for the consequences of his actions in major inconvenience through not having the use of a car for a year, �500 down the drain and then having enormous insurance premiums when he does get his licence back. In addition he has to live with the shame of it. Look at the condemnation on this thread!

As I say, the guy did wrong and has been punished for it so there is no need to be hounding him further for this.

If he doesn't up his game a bit though, that could be different!

I agree-he has been, and is being punished for a very serious offence. Those who have by comment suggested that he 'just made a wee mistake' need a bit of education.
mortonjag 2008-02-23 13:15:46
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 23 2008, 12:09 PM) [snapback]409048[/snapback]
good article that. nice one dougie smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-02-23 13:18:02
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 23 2008, 12:25 PM) [snapback]409054[/snapback]
its brooks mileson ohmy.gif

...signing copies of his new book 'Only Kiddin'. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-23 13:26:56
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 23 2008, 12:12 PM) [snapback]409050[/snapback]
My Ideology? Fcuk help us all if dislike of racists is only to be found in my ideology.
Plenty of the descendants of immigrants on my street, including the inhabitants of my ain hoose. I also teach the children of immigrants.
Germans, I always find them unfailingly polite and pleasant people.
Nope, I have a healthy distate for racists and crypto fascists, whether they read Der Sturmer, the Daily Mail or Daily Express.

I wasn't talking about racism Mr Bam-merely that you were ignoring the tabloids, but lumping the current influx along with all the previous lots, when IMVHO there are salient differences.

Moreover I pointed out that the multiculturalism which you commend seems UNITED--at least where I live- if not two or three miles south, in its condemnation of current immigration policy.
mortonjag 2008-02-23 13:34:09
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 23 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]409047[/snapback]
yes , that's right , the big issue is corrupt.

Your observations just proved it-I've always known that selling 'The Issue' was a paradise for chancers, though there are always the decent and genuinely homeless too.

Will you still be hanging up your stocking this Christmas?
mortonjag 2008-02-23 13:43:51
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 23 2008, 01:21 PM) [snapback]409061[/snapback]
i thought you said driving under the influence of dogs. which IMO is an even worse crime.

...of which professional footballers are often guilty too! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-24 09:48:45
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 23 2008, 07:25 PM) [snapback]409268[/snapback]
PLease tell me where I have stood up for multiculturalism. unsure.gif blink.gif

Anti-racism is not the same as multiculturalism.

Of course its not but you always seem to be mentioning in glowing terms the rich ethnic mix in which you live and move and have your being.

Mind you most Glaswegians acknowledge its inherent plasticity-the Mearns is Glasgow's capital of moneyculturalism.

Goodness, my neo yiddish ex taig daughter in law and hun son have moved digs just to get wee Eck onto the springboard for decent schooling. I suspect Mr Bam may have retired mind you, or will you be soldiering on for more than six years yet good Sir?
mortonjag 2008-02-24 09:57:40
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 23 2008, 01:47 PM) [snapback]409074[/snapback]
i actually find that post pretty offensive. i've known people who sold the big issue in the past. it has nothing to do with chancers. if you don't know the facts don't post s***e.

There are 'hunners' of chancers selling the Big Issue-it's a well known fact. It's a pity that some folk are so squeamish that they are offended every time they are told some home truths-and the same phenomenon applies to the substance of this thread.

Now before you embark on one of your usual-'it's OK for you- you overpaid b*****d' stuff, let me YET AGAIN tell you that you know f*ck all about my circumstances-only what you want to believe.

For starters-I know what it's like to be homeless, jobless, and skint. If you've been there too you have my sympathy.
mortonjag 2008-02-24 10:03:27
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 23 2008, 08:36 PM) [snapback]409377[/snapback]
Not even with Se65an's

I'm disappointed gash-it would be a good chance to 'road test' the new argon boosted turbo pump!
mortonjag 2008-02-24 10:05:01
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 23 2008, 09:43 PM) [snapback]409472[/snapback]
Not defending Alexander here but she accepted a donation of 900 odd quid and even Jim Sillars says she should receive an apology over the allegations. Mr. Salmond, the 'best ever', on the other hand completely ignores local democracy to further the financial interests of a billionaire US businessman. People in glass houses.

Jim Sillars-is he some sort of divine arbiter or just another old politician?
mortonjag 2008-02-24 10:06:18
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Feb 23 2008, 10:34 PM) [snapback]409522[/snapback]
If they pursued,murderers,paedophiles and rapists as tenaciously as they have the Sheridans,this country would be a safer place to live. Talk about witch hunt. Why are they so afraid of Tommy Sheridan

Because he's vermin LL-simple as that.
mortonjag 2008-02-24 10:11:16
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 23 2008, 02:00 PM) [snapback]409081[/snapback]
The back is not huge - a couple of streets (one of them quite long) near the golf course.

My grandparents on my dad's side lived in Innellan in their dotage, down on the waterfront, so I was over there quite a lot for what I can only term as holidays.

A safe place to bring up kids if you're that way inclined, and being but a road and a metal railing away from rockpools and so on (at low tide) was pretty cool as a sprog, but deathly, deathly boring when you're a few years older, and if you don't drive you're kinda f***ed.

All the obvious stuff from a fairly isolated village, really. Friendly people, though, at least back then.

Did you ever come across a Frances Mary Cameron who lived in the big house 'Cluniter' at Bullwood?
mortonjag 2008-02-24 10:16:43 Many happy returns to the two little boys, and also to our Canadian member who's a wee bit older!
mortonjag 2008-02-24 10:27:59 I don't know if Jenkins was struggling, but if he was, he shouldn't have been risked. Irons and Collins seem to be pleasing most folk so far, and I don't suppose they can be blamed for trusting FIT 'old boys' during the settling in process, but St Johnstone won the midfield yesterday-and won the game.
mortonjag 2008-02-24 10:36:21
QUOTE(Davy B Ton @ Feb 24 2008, 12:07 AM) [snapback]409574[/snapback]
McGregor was mince when he came on today. No chance would he get a game if I was in charge after that display.

Thought Morton were decent in the first half. Was also impressed with our set pieces. For once we actually threatened to score at corners and free kicks!!!

Second half was back to the old ways and I don't have any problems with the score.

We got beat, but at least we got our moneys worth.

I thought donkeys got in free!
mortonjag 2008-02-24 10:40:33 Onward and upward after this surely. The Saints beat Dundee last week, and they've just humped Stirling. Clyde succumbed to Dunfermline at home. We've not lost any ground. With a wee bit of luck we could even have snatched a point yesterday.

Heavens-we may even go on an undefeated run till the end of the season. Stranger things have happened.
mortonjag 2008-02-24 10:42:01 Transmogrification
mortonjag 2008-02-24 10:46:11
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 23 2008, 09:23 PM) [snapback]409433[/snapback]
He is the perfect example of the failure of McInally in the transfer market. A sub-standard panic signing.

Please don't tell me he has a year's contract with us blink.gif

Because Mr Rae and JM never had a disagreement in three and a half years apparently-or so the old clown was splurging in yesterday's papers.

Everybody knows that's a lie, so either the Chairman is a bare faced liar, or he IS losing it.

There again, it may be both. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-24 11:35:40
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Feb 24 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]409673[/snapback]
Truly puzzled. Bombscare keeper, inadequate defenders and strikers who can't buy a goal. Glad we have nothing to worry about.

Stop girnin'-IF Rae is to be believed-he'd have still had us with JM in charge. We do have things to worry about, but I no longer fear relegation.
mortonjag 2008-02-24 11:49:50
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 24 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]409671[/snapback]
The mearns, moneyculturalism. laugh.gif Very true, the McBs are the poor of the parish up here.
Aye it's the place for good schools.

Deo Volente, I should have another 7 years to serve.

Then God be with you! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-24 12:03:21
QUOTE(Putonmatea @ Feb 24 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]409689[/snapback]
This is the first time I have posted so sorry if I make a mess of it.
In reply to your question my understanding is as follows.
Pre-Contract agreements are intended to iron out the more important details to be included within the Contract. ie the details like start date, length of Contract, Wages etc will be summarised within the pre-contract. This Pre-Contract agreement will then be incorporated within the Contract and will threrefore form part of the Contract. It is intended to get the initial discussions / agreements sorted out quickly and to save time when the Contract is to be signed. A willingness from both parties obviously exists to sit down and talk and get this Pre-Contract produced but it is NOT a Contract. It is my opinion (Without actually knowing the complete details) that Chris Millar could stay with Morton if he wished.

It is an agreement between two parties and under Scottish Law is, I believe, binding, if either party insists.

As I stated previously it does not carry the weight of a full contract, but that by no means allows Midge just to 'walk away'.
mortonjag 2008-02-24 12:19:20
QUOTE(Putonmatea @ Feb 24 2008, 12:11 PM) [snapback]409703[/snapback]
That is why I said "Without knowing the full details". I agree with your point but by it`s nature it is and agreement before Contract. I think it might possible on the basis that he has agreed what the Contact Conditions are to be but has not yet concluded the Contract.

The way I see it is quite simple-there is an agreement that Millar will play for St Johnstone-even if the SPECIFIC terms have not been thrashed out. Thus, Millar cannot just 'walk away' without the other party claiming some kind of recompense. OK-they cannot start arguing that they have 'lost three years of his services' if there's no specific contract to that effect. A court would have to decide what compensation was fair if the clubs could not reach an agreement.
mortonjag 2008-02-24 16:52:08
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 24 2008, 01:29 PM) [snapback]409743[/snapback]
FYI MJ this is the address of The Greenock Cemetery.

It's the last place to clear-out before tomorrow but I just cannae move them, any ideas ??
Forza I noticed you nicked my sleeping place in the bus stop last night on Nelson St.

You're allocated Bus Stop is the one beside the College not Old Joe's Cafe tongue.gif

I know Willow, those corpses can be extremely difficult to move-I've another job on tonight and I'm so weary I might just postpone it-anyway-back to the point -1 South Street-the dead centre of Greenock-I'd just leave it as it is-will it work out-'remains to be seen'.
mortonjag 2008-02-24 17:05:17
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Feb 24 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]409750[/snapback]
My friend is half polish, her dad came here during the war. It's certainly not Polish that people are against or any Eastern European it's the situation, they are heading here en masse and we cannot absorb them. This has never happened before, it's just not working :(

And that is EXACTLY what the do gooders, fools, and those with a vested interest don't want to hear, LL.

Sometimes I wonder if it would take a Sheriff's Officer, an eviction order, and a taxi full of immigrants to shake some of those clowns out of smug and complacent ideology.

Oh and WHY should I have to repeat in every post that I don't blame the immigrants themselves?

I have yet to hear one poster comment positively on experiences living day in, day out, in one of the worst afflicted areas.

Inverclyde is virtually untouched. I regularly drive the whole way through to 'McInroys', and occasionally pop into the Oak Mall on the way, and see less foreign faces between the Port and Dunoon, than I see in the last minute of my drive home.
mortonjag 2008-02-24 17:07:29
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 24 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]409762[/snapback]
Aye, i'm surprised and shocked that a country the size of Scotland can handle all 5 million people that currently inhabit it.
Mebbe we should create a 1 child scheme like China's to limit our vast overfowing population - especially in towns like Greenock that are just full to the brim at the moment.
Rationale, no?

Son should you not be out doing National Service?

Shagging for yer country!
mortonjag 2008-02-24 17:09:16
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 24 2008, 02:10 PM) [snapback]409773[/snapback]
Or we could just build houses in areas like Greenock and other peripheral parts of the Central Belt, such as East Lothian.
And we could also develop parts of Fife - what tourist in their right mind wants to visit Kirkcaldy or Glenrothes?
Seen as there's so many of these immigrants then surely the economic stimulus of house building, combined with the added economic worth of all these new people would more than compensate for tourism revenue (which of course we can still get as we would never ned to pave every single part of the country).
Now, as for these immigrants coming "en masse" - is there any evidence to show the extent of migration at all?
Can a significant quantifiable figure be produced to support this?
Or are we just repeating the tired cliches of the Daily Mail and Daily Express? smile.gif

You've already been invited to a guided tour, or was that another of the children?
mortonjag 2008-02-24 17:10:42
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 24 2008, 02:48 PM) [snapback]409799[/snapback]
Care to expand on that rather pointless expression?
Is there any statistics that show the hordes of migrants or not?
Is there really no chance that they could not assimilate in the same way that so many other waves of immigration have, or would we rather keep them in their own area, thank you very much?

AYE son


GHETTO F*CK
mortonjag 2008-02-24 17:16:49
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 24 2008, 04:05 PM) [snapback]409837[/snapback]
Both Aitken and Archer were pursued as a result of civil cases if my memory is correct. Sheridan is simply getting what Archer and Aitken got.

....in the same nightclub?
mortonjag 2008-02-24 17:22:01
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 24 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]409714[/snapback]
I for one fully back this new proposed law.

2 year minimal for carrying a knife regardless if it s used or not.

I hope we go one better and add:

5 years for using a knife and life as in life for killing anyone with a knife.

It time Inverclyde and Scotland stamped out this culture once and for all, before yet another life is wasted.
Who else agree's!

I endorse that totally Sean, and guarantee to expose the dual morality of many of our posters when I suggest that EXACTLY the same rules should apply to those who take to the streets in a ton or two of steel while under the influence of alcohol.
mortonjag 2008-02-24 17:29:57
QUOTE(Putonmatea @ Feb 24 2008, 12:32 PM) [snapback]409718[/snapback]
Law is not usually quite simple but consider this. St Johnstone present a Contract for signing and Millars lawers note a clause in it that they are not happy with and was not discussed during Pre-Contract talks. Millars lawers request it is deleted and St Johnstone insist it stays. The Contract is then not agreed and therefore not signed or concluded.

Lets face it Millar is going anyway so we`ll never know.

laugh.gif

It isn't quite as you outline-the final 'to-ings and fro-ings' between lawyers go on in every type of contract the length and breadth of the country. That does NOT preclude agreement by both parties to enter a bargain.

As I have said, Midge couldn't just 'walk away' if St Johnstone still wanted him. It would be their option to exude generosity or try to squeeze Shoogly for his last bent halfpenny.
mortonjag 2008-02-24 17:34:24
QUOTE(Davy B Ton @ Feb 24 2008, 12:36 PM) [snapback]409722[/snapback]
If only you'd told me that before the game!

laugh.gif

OOps-sorry Davy-I mistook your avatar for that of another ass-my good friend Neddy Tailbearer!
mortonjag 2008-02-24 17:41:19
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Feb 24 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]409757[/snapback]
Looking for a smiley that along the lines of:

'totally embarrassed, feels like a total p***k, has no excuses and is due a right ribbing on here'

Anyone got one handy?

Didn't even realise until Andy pointed at me with a look of total disbelief on his coupon!
Actually surprised this hasn't turned into a 5 pager with a TTG type theme.

I'll be appologising to DEREK next time I see him.

Yes the David Wylie announcement is true, was reading off the official team sheet too, must have been stuck in a wee time warp...

Ach, we're not all perfect...

Let the public flogging begin... sad.gif

You see-it SHOULD have been left up to Shoogly after all.

He could have called him 'Far Cuillins' and everybody would just have smiled benignly.

Power without responsibility-surrender yer mike to ThonTON-you KNOW you want to! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-25 06:29:14
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 24 2008, 11:48 PM) [snapback]410127[/snapback]
Scurvy

Scabby
mortonjag 2008-02-25 07:00:54
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Feb 25 2008, 06:28 AM) [snapback]410144[/snapback]
I wasn't comparing the two. Loyal Lass was, when she described the concept of ghettos for immigrants. Or did I make the mistake of reading literally what she had written. The ghetto was where the Jews were put by citizens of town who didn't want to mix with them. Then they were deported to the camps. I can't call her juvenile as I think she might be around the same age as me. But it was the crassest analogy used on this thread. And what competition it is had from both sides.

You have made many unsubstantiated comments about poles (an airline magazine, wtf). therefore I was just asking who you hated before you started making the poles your scapegoat. I didn't say you hated Poles. Just that they were your scapegoat.

I've spent the last 20 years living and working between the UK and various other countries, including working at the sharp end of immigration. We have controlled immigration in the UK. Read the 1979 Act, the 1981 Nationality Act and take a visit to a visa section in any British Embassy. Read the Appellate Authorities annual report. All of which will back this up.

We're never going to agree on this. So I'll you get back to your delusions of mass immigration.



Aye right TAFKAK-make up your bloody mind-you approve of a free labour market-that's fine by me-some may not like it-but there's an inherent fairness in it even if it's far from perfect, and it naturally ensures a dissemination of labour across fairly wide parts of the country.

Now to your 'we have controlled immigration'-yes we do, and IMHO it's controlled in a wantonly haphazard fashion. Controlled, concentrated dumping-that's EXACTLY what it is.

You object to LL's proper use of the term 'Ghetto', but you entirely miss the point-the neo ghettos of Scotland are evolving overnight from relatively settled pockets of multiculturalism, and the natives of all ethnic origins are getting extremely restless. They didn't want it, they don't like what they see, and many are getting out while the going's good. That is a fact AND an indictment of any pathetic attempt at use of the word 'integration', by those who don't want to know the truth.

Maybe if some care was taken in the dispersal of those people into places like Inverclyde and dozens of other provincial conurbations-maybe if some genuine effort was made to find them employment of some kind-somewhere- we might see a dilution of the current phenomenon and some hope of faster integration.

Better still, why not just insist that they are dumped (for dumped they are) only in the areas with the highest band Council Tax? dry.gif

For Ghetto you could instantly substitute the term 'Bloody Revolution'.
mortonjag 2008-02-25 07:09:40 I must be doing something wrong. I've never been physically assaulted in my life.

I think that's quite an achievement for someone of my self absorption and arrogance.
mortonjag 2008-02-25 07:16:20
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 25 2008, 02:11 AM) [snapback]410143[/snapback]
laugh.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

They probably have their spies on this messageboard too!!!


Time to pay your way forza!
mortonjag 2008-02-25 07:21:01
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Feb 24 2008, 07:06 PM) [snapback]409900[/snapback]
Apology:

Derek 'John' Collinsâ€
From: Inver Ally (inverally@hotmail.com)
Sent: 24 February 2008 19:02:55
To: chiefexec@gmfc.net

Gillian, please pass on the note below to Derek please.

Derek,

Just a short note to apologise unreservedly for my announcement prior to the match on Saturday, yes I'm the Tannoy guy.
I can assure you it was a genuine mistake and a total mind block which was inexcusable.
I know how much this move means to you (and Davie) and hope that it didn't dampen your spirits for what must have been an excitable and emotional day.
Having followed Morton for over 30 years I still cannot believe that I made such an error, and a very public one at that.
In all those years I have always regarded you as one of the most dedicated and professional of players and have been a great servant to our club, hopefully in this term for many years to come.
Finally I wish you and Davie every success at Cappielow and hope to see the glory days again in the very near future.

Best Regards and Sorry again,

Alasdair McGregor

'Having followed Morton for over 30 years, I'm sure you can understand why I made such a simple slip'? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-25 07:22:09
QUOTE(Marc @ Feb 23 2008, 08:57 PM) [snapback]409409[/snapback]
I think Irons would get the best out of McAnespie tongue.gif

He plays TT as well?
mortonjag 2008-02-25 07:23:52
QUOTE(piehutt @ Feb 24 2008, 04:07 PM) [snapback]409839[/snapback]
Would def like to see McAnespie on the left with McAlister on the right.

McAnespie's deliveries are exceptional and would def like to see him in the side for that alone. Given that we would need to drop Finlayson to accomodate this, I don't think it's much of a gamble.

Aye right PIEHOLE-if you're going down that line of argument, we'd be better off bringing back Andy Ritchie.
mortonjag 2008-02-25 07:25:30
QUOTE(piehutt @ Feb 24 2008, 05:00 PM) [snapback]409847[/snapback]
They are by far the best of any player we have.
They are driven in with pace and good height. The hardest to defend.

McLaughlin's generally find the right area, but hang in the air far too long and so are easier to defend.

Tell him to whip aff his jock strap at the last minute.
mortonjag 2008-02-25 07:34:27
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 24 2008, 11:25 PM) [snapback]410123[/snapback]
Peter Weatherson and the way he plays is the last thing that needs to be addressed at Morton.

fair enough when he was low on confidence he got stick but since the QOS game he's been better and scoring when he gets the chance to, which is hardly ever because we either bypass the midfield completely punting the ball upto his head or cross the ball into the box maybe 5 times at most a game with only maybe one being decent enough for a capable striker to do anything with.

Plenty of guys at Scapa right now can and will score goals if Irons sorts out the supply system.
mortonjag 2008-02-25 08:52:00
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Feb 25 2008, 08:29 AM) [snapback]410155[/snapback]
Today is the happiest day of my life, and my fiancee's, as she has just been granted a fiancee visa to come to Scotland to marry me !!! We'll be home within 4 days !!!! It's been a lot of hard work, we never slept last night as I had her focus on remembering everyone in my family's name, words like ''Darroch Bar'' ,''Greenock'' & ''Dempster Street''.

They ended up not interviewing her after us waiting 4 hours....but me instead....and the interviewer was a bloke from Largs !!!. Unbelieveble. Much Relief.

To anyone racist on this thread who thinks my fiancee should not be able to work after she marries me, today, today I say, GET IT RIGHT UP YE. My fiancee deserves and is entitled to work in Scotland as much as you are.

VICTORY TO THE GOOD PEOPLE.

Congratulations on your happy news-and lang may baith o' yer lums reek! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-25 08:54:45 I'm pretty certain we'll win this one-anything else is surely unthinkable at this stage.
mortonjag 2008-02-25 09:01:14 I'm not really bothered about the witterings of 77 year olds, though I'm told Sir Sean has been a fan of Scotland since he was very young.

Actors, like politicians, get paid lots of money for living in a world of make believe.
mortonjag 2008-02-25 09:06:53
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 25 2008, 08:56 AM) [snapback]410166[/snapback]
The £950 donation is just the tip of the iceberg with Wendy - and as one journalist asked a member of the electoral commission, "you have an independently corroborated confession, what more do you need?". Wendy admitted breaking the law; Charles Gordon admitted breaking the law. Other than a whitewash by a Labour-influenced commission, what explanation can you come up with for NOT reporting this matter to the Procurator Fiscal? She's also in deep doo-doo over this fraud involving fund raising dinners where the destination of the funds was misrepresented. No doubt she will try to disassociate herself from that one too; and from the paid advocacy charges (praising Braehead shopping centre in a parliamentary motion without revealing that they gave her a donation); and also some other dodgy business revealed in the Sunday Times this week.

Salmond didn't ignore local democracy - he helped Aberdeen council out of a proceduaral cul-de-sac, possibly saving a development that will create jobs, and which appears to be wanted not only by the majority of the people in the area bar a few, such as the councillor who singlehandedly tried to scupper it. Even Nicol Stephen is on record as saying he wants that development. Your point however is to try to imply that Salmond is benefitting personally from the development - I doubt very much that he would risk his political career for something like that; he has bigger fish to fry. If he lets down the independence movement, he would not be forgiven and I'm sure he is well aware of that.

On the Sheridan business, they do seem to be trying hard to nab him for something. I think they may have a case in the perjury matter, but the miniatures business seems to be a bit vindictive - maybe she will claim the bottles were planted.... Nevertheless if she did nick them, it is theft - just because you're stealing from your employer doesn't make it OK.

Sheridan's relative success has always been on the back of iconoclasm, and anything and everything have been fair game for his scurrilous diatribes-not least those who are trying to uphold law and order. The man is the personification of inverted snobbery.They WILL get him, and I'm looking forward to that with some relish.

Nobody is bigger than the law of the land.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 06:32:45
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 25 2008, 01:16 PM) [snapback]410225[/snapback]
Because he's a common man's hero, a freedom fighter and an inspiration to the people? Or maybe he's just a lawbreaking, fame seeking dick who's finally gonna be removed from my tv screen?

Who truly knows?

It could be argued that he fits all of those descriptions BH.

One thing's for sure the amount of tax payers' money those three could save by pleading guilty would feed a few hungry mouths.

Come to think of it-knowing that they'll probably do the decent thing.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 06:39:54 It's sad, and don't imagine it's not the tip of an iceberg. The policy of 'inclusion' in our schools has inevitably left vulnerable children open to this sort of abuse.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 06:43:25
QUOTE(davidh1874 @ Feb 26 2008, 12:19 AM) [snapback]410508[/snapback]
Weather

vane
mortonjag 2008-02-26 06:58:33
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 25 2008, 07:26 PM) [snapback]410356[/snapback]
MJ, what happened to VikingTON's visitors ??

Seems it's a long story Willow. Apparently all twenty train loads were thrilled at the prospect of moving to the seaside until somebody asked if they had a choice in the matter. Don't ask me how, but he had got word of this thread, and began disseminating scare stories about living in this huge graveyard in Greenock.

I think they all got a bit confused and decided 'better the devil they know'.

They are setting up a shrine to St Vikington as I type.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 07:06:51
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 23 2008, 11:11 PM) [snapback]409532[/snapback]
We play in the next few Games:

Stirling (h)
Hamilton (a)
Clyde (a)
Partick (h)
Livvy (h)

We need imho 10 points from that lot and I think we can get them. After that its

Queens (a)
Dundee (h)
St Johnstone (a)
Dunfermline (h)
Partick (a)

If we get back on track on the first five games, we will take points from these, maybe 6/7. If we don't we will take nothing from them due to low confidence. So, the next five weeks, maybe the next three, make or break Morton.

An emergency loan defender would be good meantime plus McGurn back in goals

It's always a healthy sign when Tonsilitis gets back to his statistics. We are on the way up, and that will start with a comfortable victory over Stirling.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 07:14:51 If anyone is genuinely worried about what others may think of our programme, they need look no further than the Chairman's notes.

Cappie is at least doing his best to get down to the children's level, while Shoogly struggles to get up to it.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 07:19:53
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 26 2008, 02:32 AM) [snapback]410526[/snapback]
Our goal on Saturday came from a McAlister cross. Meanwhile Finlayson put in some of the worst crosses I have seen from a professional footballer.

From the sides they play on, both Jimbo and Kev are relatively poor at crossing-and very erratic at that.

Neither is the finished article. We have been desperately crying out for a genuine winger for more than two seasons
mortonjag 2008-02-26 07:24:13 Of course it does-being a true football fan is part of life.

Most clubs have unofficial forums where that can be demonstrated to a greater or lesser degree.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 08:34:47 You are all SO young!

Many happy returns.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 08:44:50
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Feb 26 2008, 08:24 AM) [snapback]410551[/snapback]
And that is at the heart of the issue Trick, but unfortunately the one blurs the perception of the other and causes the friction that is obvious in many parts of the Europe - not just the UK.

ScotinBelgie

Correct Robert, and it's a well recognised fact that what is 'Legal' does not 'de facto' represent the true wishes of the populace.

A referendum on bringing back the death penalty has been avoided at all costs by our political representatives masters for nigh on fifty years, (to cite one instance of that).

This is just another example of why being in 'Europe' is BAD for the United Kingdom-not that all of it is bad-I mean we've got rid of you and CHC for starters! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-26 08:54:01 I hate when folk have a go at players when their form goes off-nobody is or has been immune and today's saint is tomorrow's sinner.

The trouble with Brian is that he was brought here as a 'WANTED' player-the long awaited striker at the end of another painful transfer window, and I've yet to see him convince me that Hamilton got it wrong. Hopefully he will.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 08:56:34 Mediocre goalies can look competent behind a good defence and vice versa.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 09:22:51
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 26 2008, 09:19 AM) [snapback]410564[/snapback]
Cheap gag....

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mortonjag 2008-02-26 09:25:09 In view of recent threads on Damien etc.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 13:26:30
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Feb 26 2008, 11:41 AM) [snapback]410603[/snapback]
Jane

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mortonjag 2008-02-26 13:44:19
QUOTE(RSC @ Feb 26 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]410612[/snapback]
I live in Peterborough. Cambridgeshire. - We have a large number of immigrants, (Approx No.s) 7,000 Pakistani's (many 2nd generation), 1500 Indians, 10,000 Italians (many 2nd generation) a variety of Lithuainians, Latvians, African, Iranians, Serbs, Afghanies, and many Mediteranian nationalities plus recently around 1500 Poles.
We often have inter racial problems between many of the above, but the nationality known for their integration, hard work ethic and friendliness to all are the Poles. If all immigrants could only work similarly we wouldn't have so many lazy, dole grabbing layabouts living on state handouts demanding services and housing they could only dream of in their own country.
Poles seem much like us in attitude and ethics - our chapple population has doubled recently and the old half time plate has seen a rise in income particularly in old zloty loose change!
They seem good people, and certainly better to live amongst than many of the others mentioned above.

That sounds not too dissimilar to how things were in the area of Glasgow I inhabit -BEFORE the current influx RSC-sure there were always petty tensions but people generally pulled together, AND almost all of the 'second generation-on' minorities saw themselves as Scots.

Now there is a palpable sense of unity against the latest influx from eastern Europe. I cannot comment on the truth behind figures, but to suggest that those people are arriving here and walking into jobs is an outrage. What I'll also tell you without fear of contradiction is that they are literally 'all over the place' here. It IS causing discontent, and particularly in one area a mile north, it will only take a minor incident to ignite a major racial battle between the local Pakistani/Scots community, and those incomers. That is acknowedged by the local Police, who have had to step up vigilance. It is NOT healthy, and is not in the spirit of integration.


DUMPING must stop, even if that simply means a controlled dispersal throughout the country.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 13:48:20
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 26 2008, 12:24 PM) [snapback]410616[/snapback]
who's going to be doing the birching? prison officers, teachers, policemen or what? i'd be a bit worried that the birchers might be getting some serious kicks out of spanking a child's arse. and some of those kids might be into it as well. institutionalised beating leads to a nation of ponces - just look at the english upper classes.

anyway the problems in our society are too serious to be solved by some spanking. we have to do something about the fact that there are now people out there with three generations of unemployment behind them.

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mortonjag 2008-02-26 13:49:07
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 26 2008, 10:40 AM) [snapback]410582[/snapback]
I forgot people were never stabbed before they got rid of capital punishment.

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mortonjag 2008-02-26 13:53:03
QUOTE(princessTON @ Feb 26 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]410638[/snapback]
well my niece likes the cappie the cat page smile.gif
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I don't think children's opinions count on a big boys' (and girls') forum Princess! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-26 13:56:30 Erik Sorensen-miles ahead and that's acknowledged by Bainsy himself in the second 'Ton Greats' book.

Mind you I didn't see Jimmy Cowan.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 13:57:56 Mary
mortonjag 2008-02-26 14:29:42
QUOTE(davidh1874 @ Feb 26 2008, 02:25 PM) [snapback]410700[/snapback]
billabong tongue.gif

matilda
mortonjag 2008-02-26 14:36:04
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 26 2008, 02:00 PM) [snapback]410685[/snapback]
Liar, wasn't he in your class at school? laugh.gif wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-02-26 14:41:18
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 26 2008, 02:36 PM) [snapback]410712[/snapback]
I agree, sadly.

There's absolutely no logic behind any prediction that we'll win on Saturday.

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You've got VERY pessimistic surely!

We looked better against Dundee, and were not too bad on Saturday. The new management will have had another full week to chew things over. We are at home again. Stirling just flopped 6-1.

Most of all -- the Monkey says we'll win GUARANTEED! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-26 14:43:42 knox
mortonjag 2008-02-26 14:49:08 Big-endian and little-endian derive from Jonathan Swift's Gulliver's Travels in which the Big Endians were a political faction that broke their eggs at the large end ("the primitive way") and rebelled against the Lilliputian King who required his subjects (the Little Endians) to break their eggs at the small end.

I prefer to remove the shells before boiling, as I despise controversy.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 14:49:57 wooga
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:00:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 26 2008, 02:56 PM) [snapback]410734[/snapback]
Do you mean break as in cut or break the shell in order to gain access to the contents.

If you do, we are at cross purposes, mate.

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I believe this habit/tradition to be exclusively Scots.

Perhaps it has died out ?

Serving

Soft boiled eggs are commonly served in egg cups, where the top of the egg is cut off with a knife or egg scissors, using a teaspoon to scoop the egg out. Other methods include breaking the eggshell by tapping gently around the top of the shell with a spoon,[3] and even cutting the egg lengthwise as to produce two halves making it easier to scoop the egg from its shell[citation needed]. This method requires a horizontal egg cup to keep the egg from rolling around on the plate. Soft-boiled eggs can be eaten with buttered toast cut into strips, which are then dipped into the runny yolk. In Great Britain, these strips of toast are known as soldiers.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:07:35
QUOTE(Muz @ Feb 26 2008, 03:02 PM) [snapback]410738[/snapback]
Christ. New levels of boredom where you didnt think it was possible.

Damn this Internet Browser for signing me out and removing the ignore function for these two!!

If you're not enjoying the yolk, you don't need to play!
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:08:32 aga
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:10:34
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Feb 26 2008, 03:05 PM) [snapback]410740[/snapback]
i second that...

also...pump daphne for me....saucy wee minx tongue.gif

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The mind boggles! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:11:23 egg spoon
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:17:09
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 26 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]410752[/snapback]
mortonjag, are you playing dumb ?

Or despite your passing years, have you never heard of the practice ?

It is performed AFTER the contents are consumed.[color=#FF0000]

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The terms Big-Endian and Little-Endian are from the Lilliput episode of Gulliver's Travels, where they are satires on the Protestant and Roman Catholic religions, and their effect as factions in the politics of the two rival and warring empires of Lilliput and Blefuscu, representing respectively Great Britain and France.

They refer to which end of the egg you crack open to eat. Reldresal, principal secretary to the Lilliputian emperor, explained it to Gulliver thus.

It began upon the following occasion. It is allowed on all hands, that the primitive way of breaking eggs, before we eat them, was upon the larger end; but his present majesty's grandfather, while he was a boy, going to eat an egg, and breaking it according to the ancient practice, happened to cut one of his fingers. Whereupon the emperor his father published an edict, commanding all his subjects, upon great penalties, to break the smaller end of their eggs. The people so highly resented this law, that our histories tell us, there have been six rebellions raised on that account; wherein one emperor lost his life, and another his crown. These civil commotions were constantly fomented by the monarchs of Blefuscu; and when they were quelled, the exiles always fled for refuge to that empire. It is computed that eleven thousand persons have at several times suffered death, rather than submit to break their eggs at the smaller end. Many hundred large volumes have been published upon this controversy: but the books of the Big-endians have been long forbidden, and the whole party rendered incapable by law of holding employments. During the course of these troubles, the emperors of Blefuscu did frequently expostulate by their ambassadors, accusing us of making a schism in religion, by offending against a fundamental doctrine of our great prophet Lustrog, in the fifty-fourth chapter of the Blundecral (which is their Alcoran). This, however, is thought to be a mere strain upon the text; for the words are these: 'that all true believers break their eggs at the convenient end.'

By the time Gulliver arrives there are so many Big-endian exiles in the court of Blefuscu that that nation is launching a major assault on Lilliput, where Gulliver is now a free person. In gratitude for his freedom, he destroys the Blefuscudian fleet.


I've never heard of the practice of breaking the shell after the egg has been eaten, although we used to throw them to the dog, much in the same way as the old midwives threw a fresh placenta.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:19:51 whisker
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:23:15
QUOTE(princessTON @ Feb 26 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]410761[/snapback]
cat

nip
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:26:04 When Cappie first arrived I didn't like his lethargic ways-in fact I even started a thread asking if he was 'ON something'.

Now I see him for what he is-just a laid back, friendly big poosy, whom the kids seem to adore.

I think Cappie's OK.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:27:59 finger
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:32:27 hammer
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:36:55 face
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:40:01
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 26 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]410789[/snapback]
the only thing you've ever been remotely positive about on here and its the one thing you should be 100% negative about tongue.gif

That is extremely cruel, and untrue to boot! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:41:39
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 26 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]410791[/snapback]
Pace, skill, touch, aerial prowess, awareness? We've had loads of players through the years who have also lacked these attributes....

Seriously though, it's alarming how many inadequate players were signed under McInally. I'll give Wake every chance to succeed, but from what everyone is saying, it's not looking good. East Fife will be sniffing around soon.

....and Rae.

Remember they NEVER had a disagreement in three and a half years! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:43:00 peepers
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:44:31
QUOTE(Yoda @ Feb 26 2008, 03:43 PM) [snapback]410801[/snapback]
My superstitious granny used to tell me to break the bottom of the shell that it would stop the devil using it as a boat!

Yet another nightmare perpetrated on youngsters by an older generation who should bloody know better!

don't even get me started on bread crusts, pogies and crying on your birthday!

....AND the 'Bogeyman'-surely?
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:55:05
QUOTE(Yoda @ Feb 26 2008, 03:49 PM) [snapback]410807[/snapback]
Never the bogey man - I could never be convinced of that one, but my bags were packed for the ragged school on more than one occasion - usually when I was protesting too loudly about the pogies!! blink.gif

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We were warned that the devil would toast our toes on the fire if we were bad-the bogeyman would take us away and never bring us back-and aye-the ragged school was a favourite threat!
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:56:18 shrieks
mortonjag 2008-02-26 16:02:30
QUOTE(BlueTube @ Feb 26 2008, 03:58 PM) [snapback]410823[/snapback]
ice

frigid
mortonjag 2008-02-26 16:05:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 26 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]410820[/snapback]
the ragged school was a favourite threat!
Is that where you learnt ...

around around the rugged rock the ragged rascal ran ???

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No-no


Round and round the rugged rock the ragged rascal ran!
mortonjag 2008-02-26 16:05:55 bust
mortonjag 2008-02-26 16:08:56 pawn
mortonjag 2008-02-26 16:10:35
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 26 2008, 04:05 PM) [snapback]410828[/snapback]
i was on ready steady cook. i made a pot noodle and a piece n crisps

Plain bread with cheese 'n' onion?
mortonjag 2008-02-26 16:12:03
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 26 2008, 04:09 PM) [snapback]410837[/snapback]
amen to that.

Very true, and we could start by recruiting birchers.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 16:14:38
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 26 2008, 04:09 PM) [snapback]410834[/snapback]

I always found 'Red leather, yellow leather' very difficult.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 16:16:31 lolly
mortonjag 2008-02-26 16:18:31
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 26 2008, 04:16 PM) [snapback]410851[/snapback]
beaten up in a cup with loads of butter and some toast all washed down with a cuppa tea!

The egg must be soft boiled for that one.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 16:19:14 meal
mortonjag 2008-02-26 16:25:02
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Feb 26 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]410586[/snapback]
Ummm....move over, Will Ferrell.....

As they say in New York....'nuf said...!

That is one scrawny creature.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 06:19:55 snow
mortonjag 2008-02-27 06:29:23
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Feb 26 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]411128[/snapback]
I do "The Herald" cryptic crossword every day - you can always tell what days it's going to be difficult 'cos they put a wee "doodle-face" in the business column right next to it!

I print it off so I don't see those 'doodle-faces'. You get used to the compilers and clues after a while and the challenge is to see how quickly you can complete it.

Here are two from today.

'He may play a drunken Croat'-the clue is 'drunken' indicating an anagram of Croat = actor (he may play).

'Giant bird on a pole'= Titan (tit on 'a'and 'N' for north.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 06:39:05
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 27 2008, 12:14 AM) [snapback]411249[/snapback]
From Godwin's Law to Newton's Law. Makes no sense at all. laugh.gif

If you paint a wee moustache on a Granny Smith somebody will take the pip.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 06:43:19
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 26 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]410990[/snapback]
One of the most pointless thread ever... corporal punishment is banned under EU law. rolleyes.gif

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That sounds like a DAMNED GOOD reason for debating it.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 06:57:10
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 26 2008, 08:18 PM) [snapback]411081[/snapback]
I'm surprised that no-one seems to have touched on the moral argument.

How can you expect to teach children that violence is wrong when violence is inflicted upon them as a method of disciplining them?

The belt certainly didn't reduce the violent tendencies of the neds in my day, and I'm sure it wouldn't now either.

Anyway, back to my original point, it'll never happen anyway as it's against EU law.

The moral argument as you put it is quite simple. Society either lives by generally accepted rules or in anarchy.

Those who CHOOSE to disobey the rules have no 'moral' right to put themselves above the general good.

It is evident in current Scottish society that there is a sub culture of thuggery, and I frankly don't give a f*ck about all the usual reasons, lies, and excuses.

MidTONs is correct about Draconian measures decimating the Glasgow razor gangs.

Organised criminals were very selective about weaponry before the death penalty was abolished.

The message---Carry a knife and society will beat f*ck out of you-I LIKE THAT-and if any of my loved ones was stabbed to death I can assure you I'd want to do more than birch the evil b*****d who CHOSE to go out armed.

Moral issue CHC-it's immoral to condone violence and murder IMHO, and that includes laughing off measures which would be effective in preventing such evils.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 07:10:25
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Feb 26 2008, 11:46 PM) [snapback]411239[/snapback]
Try being a teacher for a day... huh.gif

I teach in a rough school, there is a general lack of respect for teachers, but when you scratch the surface of the bravado and treat them properly there are plenty of nice kids, they're not all bad.
Belting them won't change a thing in my opinion, respect works 2 ways, you can earn respect by being respectful.

Of course they're not ALL bad, and of course you can win over the vast majority by treating them as adults and respectfully.

M4RKO-you know very well that many of those young thugs who are willing to tote weapons are already out of mainstream education in their early teens.

Respect and discipline should be learned in the home. A child entering primary one deserves a basic understanding of 'right and wrong', AND of reward and punishment. If things are awry in the family no amount of 'treating them properly' can be guaranteed results.

The truth is that there is a hard core of antisocial behaviour which only plays by its own rules. For that small minority, it has to be 'an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth'.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 07:15:58 Good gracious-over twelve hours and none of the usual suspects has jumped to the defence of G.M.F.C.net, Greenock's answer to The Dead Sea Scrolls.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 07:21:03
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 26 2008, 08:03 PM) [snapback]411060[/snapback]
Spewing peach schnapps and listening to Avril Lavigne are bound under law.

It's blue Bols you two deserve.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 07:24:22
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 26 2008, 09:15 PM) [snapback]411152[/snapback]
Queen of the South have also won more games at Scapa this season than we have in the league.
Despite all these things some posters on here thought JM was doing a decent job wink.gif

Almost 80% this time last year Willow-some of them were even a tad nasty to the less faithful! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-27 07:28:27 Deuchar has taken full advantage of his medical education in this country, and is now deserting the NHS the minute his training is complete.

Good riddance to a greedy b*****d.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 07:30:30 Who is this Billy McNeill? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-27 07:33:25
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Feb 26 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]411071[/snapback]
Daily intake:

Bendrofluazide
Coracten
Lopace
Simvador

I think 45 years of Ton watching has had some effect.

Aye but is he prescribing the right stuff?
mortonjag 2008-02-27 08:40:37
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 27 2008, 08:14 AM) [snapback]411288[/snapback]
Isn't the legalised beating of children condoning violence? rolleyes.gif

No it is not-what happened to the concept of accepting your just deserts.

I take it somebody once spanked your wee pink botty, and you've never forgiven him!
mortonjag 2008-02-27 08:42:07
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 27 2008, 08:15 AM) [snapback]411289[/snapback]
Then start another thread about pulling out of the EU then. tongue.gif

If I was forty years younger I'd be pulling out of IT!

Shower of namby pamby overpaid pen pushing ponces.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 08:43:24
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 27 2008, 08:17 AM) [snapback]411290[/snapback]
Goes back to the point I made earlier, corporal punishment was used as many as a cover and justification for child abuse.

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I KNEW it-you DID get your wee botty skelped! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-27 08:50:19
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 27 2008, 08:30 AM) [snapback]411298[/snapback]
Never heard of this eggshell breaking thing. I'm a little-endian myself, break the shell by hitting it with a teaspoon. Although years since I had a boiled egg in an eggcup.

I find when shelling a boiled egg (for making kedgeree for example) running it under the cold tap for a few seconds makes the shell peel off more easily. Today's top tip...

I run it under the cold tap-then bounce it gently off the sink till the shell's completely crazed-then peel from the natural air pocket at the wee end.

I love kedgeree-first tasted it in my Granny's in Holmscroft St. when I was a toddler. If you want it really healthy use wholegrain rice.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 08:51:49
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 27 2008, 08:49 AM) [snapback]411306[/snapback]
laugh.gif Do you write for the porno mags?

No-their authors write for me.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 08:54:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 27 2008, 08:22 AM) [snapback]411293[/snapback]
Deuchar has taken full advantage of his medical education in this country, and is now deserting the NHS the minute his training is complete.

Gidday mortonjag,

How is your application at Australia House coming along, digger ??

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They said I was too old.

Deuchar is a greedy b*****d!
mortonjag 2008-02-27 08:58:21
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 27 2008, 08:43 AM) [snapback]411304[/snapback]
Billy McNeil was apparently a centre half. He was playing for Scotland against England in 1961 when we lost 9-3. After that his career went downhill.

Oh that one-and he had the cheek to blame poor Mr Haffey. What would that anonymity know about our Andy Ritchie?
mortonjag 2008-02-27 09:01:21
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 27 2008, 08:51 AM) [snapback]411308[/snapback]
Or are you the leader writer for the Daily Mail? laugh.gif

I've never read the Daily Mail since I stopped delivering newspapers in the days when the word 'discipline' was understood, and people thought they knew all about national pride.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 09:25:56
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 27 2008, 08:26 AM) [snapback]411295[/snapback]
Regarding the term "Brit" - something on the radio this morning prompted the thought: Is calling someone a "Brit" not exactly the same as calling someone a "*potential ethnic slur removed*"? Both are simple abbreviations of a longer description, and both can be taken as offensive by the person so described.

Like describing a Canadian as a 'can' or somebody from Germany a 'germ'.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 09:39:09
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 27 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]411322[/snapback]
In other news, Scotch eggs have got eggs in them.

AHA-back to the Kit Kat conundrums!

How can an 'egg' have an egg in it.

A Scotch egg is similar to a motor car-it looks all body but it's what's inside that gives it the name.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 09:43:27
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 27 2008, 09:37 AM) [snapback]411325[/snapback]
And ex-pats abroad often refer to themselves as 'Brits'.

I think the term is rarely if ever used as an insult nowadays, is it? Therefore comparing it to the term Alibi uses above to describe people from the Asian sub-continent is, frankly, ridiculous.

Did he call them a bad name?
mortonjag 2008-02-27 09:45:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 27 2008, 09:40 AM) [snapback]411327[/snapback]
and use fresh eggs.

I can recommend seagull eggs from the Greater Cumbrae.

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How long have you had them?
mortonjag 2008-02-27 09:46:51
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 27 2008, 09:44 AM) [snapback]411331[/snapback]
I don't have to deny supporting the Israel bombing of Lebanon, because I have NEVER said I supported it ! And I don't have to lie about that either !

As for the swastika and butchers apron. Both flags represent two brutal imperialist regimes who committed crimes of genocide,murder,brutality and rape. Not really a million miles away from each other are they ?

And as for the term brit. Double standards again from unionists. They can quite happily call us nats, but get uptight about the word brit in reference to them.

Is a Brit/nat just a BRAT then?
mortonjag 2008-02-27 09:52:48
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 27 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]411319[/snapback]
Your obsession about the spanking of my botty is really quite disturbing. unsure.gif

I could talk about smacking you over the wrist, but it's accepted that the proper and natural place to be spanked upon is ones little pink botty.

If that offends I could go for one of those new fangled Europeanisms-how about der arskiten, or frapper la porte derriere-here I like kackenkrackenschmaken.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 09:54:36
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 27 2008, 09:33 AM) [snapback]411323[/snapback]
Who said there shouldn't be consequences? rolleyes.gif

I'll really starting to get a bit worried about you MJ. I hope you're OK.

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No it's OK CHC-if it goes wonky you'll know ALL about it I assure you! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-27 09:56:15 jack that thread
mortonjag 2008-02-27 10:00:25
QUOTE(ton1 @ Feb 27 2008, 09:53 AM) [snapback]411340[/snapback]
Iagree, they could update it daily ,would just give some on here more to moan about,get a life.If there is anything worthwhile we need to know the club put it on there.

OK Shoogly


I take it you ARE Shoogly-he's TON number 1

Have you taken your daily supplements yet?
mortonjag 2008-02-27 10:02:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 27 2008, 09:59 AM) [snapback]411344[/snapback]
last time was the Greenock Fair weekend in 2006, whilst Alibi was on his honeymoon.

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Sadly, the Ton were not playing that weekend.

Was probably a blessing in disguise.

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Have you tried duck and or goose eggs?
mortonjag 2008-02-27 10:12:20
QUOTE(Yoda @ Feb 27 2008, 10:02 AM) [snapback]411347[/snapback]
To a degree I would agree with you, however abuse takes many forms and can happen just as easily in the home as at the hands of over zealous "responsible adults" even at the hands of school bullies as mentioned on another thread.

Care has to be taken that in giving society back the option of dishing out corporal punishment, you do not go back to the way some of our teachers dealt with things, using it as the only way they could control a class. There were others who the threat of it was just enough hard man or not, yes I was in the Cowdie too and I remember the rockets being sent to other teachers to be belted, I also remember some of those teachers refusing to belt when they heard what the "offence" was. (in one case a guy was threatened with the belt for persistently farting in class, hardly crime of the century. unsure.gif )

That said, I do believe that there comes a point when the only thing that will get the point across in some cases is physical punishment (or violence if that is how you want to class it!) Now although I don't think kids should be hung up by the ankles and have their feet beaten for just misbehaving - when it gets to a point where punishment excersises, exclusion and the threat of expulsion are having no effect, then after consultation with all guidance and department heads, parents and if need be the school board I would condone a good leathering. Especially in cases where other children have been severely affected by the actions of one or two who cannot be controlled.

Society is degenerating into a state where good people will be forced to do bad things to protect themselves and their own - is this how we want to live?

I sincerely believe that those who argue most vehemently against corporal punishment have issues of their own Yoda-but don't EVER expect them to admit it.

Have you ever sat in a crowded public place-a restaurant for example- and witnessed a brat taking one of those parental types to the cleaners-that's what it's come to.

I like your term 'good leathering'.

For what it's worth I have three grown up children-all in responsible occupations. One was never punished physically, and each of the other two received a good clattering across the backside ON ONE OCCASION.

Physical punishment shoud be seen as a last resort-an ultimate deterrent if you like, but the minute children are allowed to take over, their upbringing is destroyed.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 10:16:39
QUOTE(ton1 @ Feb 27 2008, 10:08 AM) [snapback]411350[/snapback]
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I said supplements you eejit-not your 'sleepers'.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 10:26:00
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 27 2008, 10:21 AM) [snapback]411357[/snapback]
And I sincerely believe that you're a blithering old fool - doesn't necessarily mean that either of us are right.

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Well you only have the evidence of the bizarre postings of an anonymous Morton fan.

I have based my conclusion on a lifetime spent observing human behaviour and interraction, and the longer you keep 'banging your big drum' about this, the more convinced I become that you are a wee vulnerable soul at heart. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-27 10:28:20
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Feb 27 2008, 10:24 AM) [snapback]411359[/snapback]
im doing an HNC in web design, i'd gladly do it tongue.gif, gives me something on my CV lol

Fudgy Wudgy smudges.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 10:45:29
QUOTE(Yoda @ Feb 27 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]411358[/snapback]
Another poster mentioned that the belt did not stop the hardened neds, however I am willing to bet it prevented a few others from turning out that way. Obviously prison doesn't work as a deterrent for some, does that mean that we don't bother sending anybody because it won't work for the ones who "really need to be locked up"?

Our modern brainwashed society doesn't seem to acknowledge deterrence.

The Gorbals razor gangs were smashed when the authorities hardened up. Prior to the abolishment of hanging-experienced 'cons' were extremely careful not to carry lethal weapons (my father in law was Barlinnie Chaplain for ten years).

I'm convinced that most of the vehement 'antis' have a vested interest in propagating their views-often in the furtherance of career, or simply in justification of a job. That, in my opinion, is despicable, and it's a damned sight more common than is popularly imagined.

What do the Police think about corporal punishment? Oh but wait-we're not allowed to ask that sort of question because they're 'biased'.

Aye right-not nearly so biased as the sleekit anonymous beaurocrats, the self propagating waste of space that is social work, and the career bent law makers and politicians.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 10:53:47 The common cold, or Coryza, is a pretty harmless self limiting viral infection. There is no 'cure', though various proprietary medicines can ameliorate the symptoms.

It's quite true that lying down to it is of no great benefit. Equally true is the fact that if you work in close contact with others, you can share your misery with them by turning up at work. Oh and DON'T 'phone your doctor-he's not interested! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-27 10:57:19
QUOTE(big B @ Feb 27 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]411367[/snapback]
I work with a St Midden spporter he has also heard we have supposed to have purchased one of their stands I would imagine for the Wee Dublin End.

I hope you are a butcher to trade.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 11:06:46
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 27 2008, 10:59 AM) [snapback]411375[/snapback]
I don't think football is a particularly popular sport in Pakistan, not least of all because of the rival popularity of cricket.

Plenty of second and third generation Glaswegian 'Pakis', as they are happy to be called in most cases, attend Ibrox or Parkhead. Inverclyde is different.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 11:11:28
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Feb 27 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]411381[/snapback]
what?

Fudgy Wudgy smudges on yer CV
mortonjag 2008-02-27 11:14:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 27 2008, 11:12 AM) [snapback]411386[/snapback]
Lived on duck eggs on our first land in Australia 1966 to 1970.

We gave our neighbours our biggest drake for Christmas 1968.

They didn't have the heart to kill him.

They had a 5 acre dam - somewhat bigger than Walker's dam I imagine.

So, on Boxing Day, they bought him 6 ducks.

He had a great life.

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My Dad used to love goose eggs-well only one at a time. The yolk was much stronger than that of a hen's egg.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 11:19:03
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Feb 27 2008, 11:13 AM) [snapback]411387[/snapback]
whats a fudgy wudgy smudge?

Fudgy Wudgys are made by Mr Rae in his factory, and lovingly distributed for sale by his devoted band of fudge packers. I imagine if you offer your services you might get the odd 'freebie'.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 11:30:26
QUOTE(ton1 @ Feb 27 2008, 11:24 AM) [snapback]411397[/snapback]
I agree whats your problem with the club and chairman

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I take it you're a new reader as well as a new poster. I have NO problem with Mr Rae's Fudgy Wudgys. I don't normally indulge in cheap confectionery, but I once bought some from my local Asian friend. They are tasty, and IMHO good value for money. They might very well cause smudges if they came too close to ones CV.

Mr Rae makes exceedingly good Fudgy Wudgys.

Is that ok?
mortonjag 2008-02-28 06:33:41
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 27 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]411554[/snapback]
a p***k and a deranged moron take tea at cappielow every other week? (9)

TY-you are so kind-though the good Herald readers might need to be clued in to your obscure asterisks.

Salad of spring mutton minus topping. (8-3)
mortonjag 2008-02-28 06:35:38
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 27 2008, 09:32 PM) [snapback]411624[/snapback]
I do not. sad.gif
As I don't even believe in the term "racist" I would never use it for any serious purpose.

Do you have one?
mortonjag 2008-02-28 06:45:19
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 27 2008, 06:29 PM) [snapback]411513[/snapback]
What has been proven, and is a fact, is that most violent crime is perpetrated by those under the influence of alcohol.

Alcohol is, in real terms, far cheaper now that it's ever been. I was talking to my faither-in-law, who loves a wee dram of an evening, and he said when he was in a 20s he saved up all year for his ne'erday bottle of whisky. And a wee nip in the boozer was a once-a-month treat.

Maybe therefore a better way of reducing violent crime would be to look at reducing its availability and making it more expensive? Would anyone on here be prepared to pay more for their swally if it meant safer streets?

No, thought not. smile.gif

So instead of looking at dealing with the causes of the problem you're looking instead at dealing with the consequences of the problem. A wee bit arse for elbow, if you ask me.

...and would undoubtedly have personally birched any wee ned who stole it. It's well seen you're safe on the other side of the Channel-the most common catalyst to violent YOUNG neddery in this country is now drug abuse.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 06:50:09
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 27 2008, 08:04 PM) [snapback]411580[/snapback]
Christ Donga, fair play to you, that was a quality rant! wink.gif

It was NOT a rant-it was a personal account of behaviour which occurs regularly.

It also highlighted the assailant v. victim profile.

Only after justice is done for the victim, should any attempt be made to pander to the party who DELIBERATELY embarked on thuggery.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 06:56:14
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 27 2008, 08:42 PM) [snapback]411601[/snapback]
I agree completely, it's part of the British, Irish and Scandinavian culture to binge drink, especially at the weekends. Whereas in most other European countries the culture is to drink smaller quantities but more frequently.

However I honestly don't think you can change a culture. You can promote sensible and moderate drinking as much as you want, but it won't fundamentally change peoples drinking habits. And they in turn will pass that habit in to their children.

It's in our genes. :)

Addictive behaviour is genetic.

General social behaviour is a variable mix of nature and nurture, and can be changed. In 1970 more than 50% of doctors in Great Britain were smokers. The figure is now negligible.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 07:06:41
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 27 2008, 11:51 PM) [snapback]411749[/snapback]
As a self confessed user of illegal drugs I've yet to see any drug that brings out a violent reaction in the way alcohol can. People can become a lot of annoying things, arrogant, foolish, horny or whatever and everyone reacts to every drug (alcohol included) differently but it's the "Begbie" syndrome with a lot of a boozers. Wont go near anything illegal but are quite happy to get s***faced and violent. It's a very British system of values.

The most common cause of aggressive paranoia in this country is now UNQUESTIONABLY cannabis. A fairly large proportion of neds are on a mix of drugs and booze at any given time.

I don't dispute the right of individual posters to air views, but it's pretty clear that many 'haven't a clue' when it comes to reality.

The common good must come before the gratuitous urges of any member of society, and current laws are failing us.

Are the neds to win?

Birch them.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 07:21:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 27 2008, 09:46 PM) [snapback]411631[/snapback]
I'm not advocating community sentencing for knife crime at all, it can be as harsh or as lenient as people decide: but I don't see a harsh sentence acting as a deterrent though.
People who carry a knife must already be aware of the risks, and regardless or not of anyone else's view, many do carry a knife in self-protection.
I can't see them leaving something that makes them safe in a perverse sort of way - defensive measures like this are seen as more important than any potential punishment.
If the idea is to take irresponsible people off the streets for committing the crime then it can be set to correspond to this, according to personal feelings and legal opinion.
It shouldn't be seen though as a sure-fire way of reducing knife crime, apart from those who may reoffend upon release.

Tell me something son-as you always TALK a good game.

Do you have any intention of exposing yourself to life's realities in the near future, or will you tread the lily laden and sweetly scented path of politicians, law makers, and general do-gooders?

Just suppose a wee crazy gang started kniving our M.S.P's for kicks. Would the immediate attempts to change the laws be regarded as 'moral' behaviour?
mortonjag 2008-02-28 07:28:42
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 27 2008, 11:43 PM) [snapback]411745[/snapback]
So you have no problems with someone getting two years for not commiting a violent crime in any way? You think two years for just being stupid or trying to act the hard man is fair?

If twenty people who would never go on to commit a serious crime are put away for 2 years each that amounts to 40 years. Is saving one life worth taking away forty of other people's and ruining a good number of them for just being a numpty? There's no answer to that.

To throw a blanket over every single offence like that is dangerous and sets precedents. This is why we have Judges. You know the difference between an arsehole who's more than willing to carry a knife with the intention of using it or someone who's just trying to prove to his mate's that he's not a ****.

Look at the state of the prisons within American states that have the three strikes and you're out nonsense. People are facing life sentences for shop lifting and graffiti. If life imprisonment can't stop people from lifting a loaf of bread how is a two year sentence gonna stop people from carrying knives?

It's a nonsense.

Makes a good soundbite tho' and that's the main thing aint it?

The sentencing system in this country is still a lottery. Judges, by the very nature of their jobs, become very detached from the 'personalities' in cases. The law does its best but remains an ass.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 07:32:15
QUOTE(leyTON @ Feb 27 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]411643[/snapback]
after recent talk in the press, and the two other threads on caning youngsters and bringing a new law in, jsut thought id wonder what people thoguht about this
i for one am against

Was that the thread about birching brutal b*****ds?

The death penalty-as an ultimate deterrent AND an efficient way of removing recalcitrant scum is an excellent idea. Nobody will force you to watch the humane execution, though you may be granted permission to applaud quietly, if it was one of your loved ones life which was snuffed out by the beast on the scaffold.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 07:45:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 28 2008, 05:59 AM) [snapback]411767[/snapback]
Well, to carry on the secret signs and/or superstitions ...

I was 4 years old, walking up Newton Street with my granny McGregor to go to Galbraith's in Kelly Street, when without warning she dragged me across to the Academy side of Newton Street.

And then just as violently back again.

Any ideas ?

a clue - 1692

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Glencoe and King Billy spring to mind, though not in any particular order.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 08:48:53
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Feb 27 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]411404[/snapback]
im assuming their just fudge sweets then?

YES-what did you think they were-he also has lovely black striped balls which are a pure pleasure to sook.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 08:53:43
QUOTE(El gofer @ Feb 27 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]411439[/snapback]
So MJ, Deuchar's career choice limits him to working in Uk til when??

He is fortunate enough to be able to have two career options, I should imagine that he will not spend the rest of his life over there and will be back paying the humble tax payer before you know it!!

Aye right-wake up and smell the coffee.

He's doing nothing wrong-just choosing to practice in the States on the strength of a British medical education.

He IS a greedy b*****d, and he WON'T be back.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 09:01:30 it's pathetic by definition.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 09:11:16
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 28 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]411812[/snapback]
I will give that answer 8 out of 10.

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Massacres by culpable McGregors?
mortonjag 2008-02-28 12:21:08
QUOTE(edd @ Feb 28 2008, 11:57 AM) [snapback]411853[/snapback]
"spring mutton" minus "topping" (ie. first letter) = pring mutton

rearrange the letters to get ... trumpington

hurray! smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-02-28 12:30:41
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 28 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]411848[/snapback]
Listening to the spokesman for GP’s on BBC Breakfast News this morning I was interested to hear his reasoning for the £100K+ salaries (with less hours). Apparently, over the last three years GP’s have had to work harder than their predecessors and also in that time needed to become more knowledgeable. Looks like they must have got rid of the “charlie-tans†tongue.gif . Just a pity we couldn’t have got Fidel here in the 50’s.

I have often listened to this 'old chestnut' my good friend. GP's shouldn't be bothering trying to justify their existences to fools who haven't a clue about the realities of practice. wink.gif

mortonjag 2008-02-28 12:43:05
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Feb 28 2008, 12:34 PM) [snapback]411865[/snapback]
Says the man with a monkey as a best friend!!!!!!

The monkey is a retired air traffic controller.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 13:21:07
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 28 2008, 12:48 PM) [snapback]411869[/snapback]
does he know flight_ton?

I doubt it-he was head of ATC at Heathrow, but only paid peanuts!
mortonjag 2008-02-28 13:24:49
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 28 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]411870[/snapback]
....whit?!?!?! blink.gif

Whit the man said Puggs.

Try this to get started


Bond formed by beheaded bunion
mortonjag 2008-02-28 13:32:19 Jim has stagnated under the previous manager, and the fee we'd get would reflect that.

If he starts scoring and winning MOTM awards week after week, the price will soon be hiked.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 13:36:22
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 28 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]411880[/snapback]
Darwinian man, though well behaved, is no more than a monkey shaved.

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Excellent-back to the jungle and natural justice folks-where will we start-who hurts us most-I'll go for the politicians.We shall cook them all in a large pot and feed the hungry.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 13:57:16
QUOTE(edd @ Feb 28 2008, 01:42 PM) [snapback]411885[/snapback]
too easy ...

i'm just getting started with cryptic crosswords, just trying the mirror one online: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/crosswords/20...89520-20333730/

it's really simple, but i can't get these ones:

6 down: "Cook pie to heal an advocate of luxury (9)" - _e_t_o_e_
7 down: "He ruined the ship (9)" - ___c_r_a_
8 across: "looks to quietly seep out (5)" - __eps (the answer better not be "seeps", cos that would just be rubbish)

edit: i think 8 across might be "peeps", any thoughts? that would make 7 down _p_c_r_a_ ...

epicurean and peeps

still puzzled by the 'ship' one!

Got it---destroyer
mortonjag 2008-02-28 14:18:55
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 28 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]411893[/snapback]
When I read the thread title I thought this was about sat navs...

Sometimes the apostrophe IS useful!
mortonjag 2008-02-28 16:29:28
QUOTE(edd @ Feb 28 2008, 03:47 PM) [snapback]411911[/snapback]
oh yeah - i got the letters for 6 and 7 down the wrong way round: "_e_t_o_e_" went with 7 down, "_p_c_r_a_" went with 6 down ...

cheers mortonjag smile.gif
so "Cook pie to heal an advocate of luxury" means:
1. "cook pie" - rearrange the letters of pie to get "epi"
2. "to heal" - find a word that means "heal", ie. "cure"
3. "an" - add "an" to the end of it, hence "epicurean", and an epicurean is an advocate of luxury.

that about right?

the destroyer one is just a double-meaning clue, think of a word that means "someone who ruins something" and is also a type of ship ... while "p" is the musical abbreviation meaning "quietly", so add that to "seep", rearrange the letters to find a word that means "to look", hence "peeps" ... is that how those ones work?

while i was doing the crossword often i'd see a word that fitted and then notice that it fitted in with the clue, is that how these things often pan out?

You've worked them out Edd.

I guess crosswords are a matter of taste. I hate the ones where you see the correct answer first, and then have to work out why the clue fits.

The most enjoyable ones are those which leave you with a wee smile at the compiler's wit, even if you've wanted to strangle him for the previous half hour!
mortonjag 2008-02-28 16:32:07
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 28 2008, 03:43 PM) [snapback]411910[/snapback]
..but incorrect. I think the correct way to write it is GPs. An apostrophe indicates an omitted letter or a possessive noun.

I was thinking of G.Ps.' salaries! Too many crosswords.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 16:37:18
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Feb 28 2008, 04:09 PM) [snapback]411915[/snapback]
First of all let me state that I'm completely against state-sponsored murder or sorry the 'death penalty'. While I understand the need for lethal force in certain circumstances (war, stopping someone in the act of perpetrating a terrorist action) and on a case by case basis I can condone euthanasia, I cannot accept that is morally correct nor understand how (other than the short term eurphoria of vengence) it can aliviate suffering. I really enjoyed watching Michael Portillo's Horizon documentary - How to Kill a Human Being - and the many issues that surround the death penalty. And while at the end of the day hypoxia appears to be possibly the most humane form of execution, for advocates of the death penalty it appears it's just not brutal enough!

And before anyone says but you're a lily-livered PC liberal, I do believe life imprisonment should mean life, and not just sitting about watching TV and playing cards. Put them to work (sorting recyclable material for example also benefits society) even if there is no purpose to what they are doing (moving piles of rock from one location to another). Sure look after their basic necessities, but even luxuries like TVs should not be in prison - no wonder there are so many reoffenders - life's better on the inside.

ScotinBelgie

What a load of unadulterated s***e Robert. The only difference between a humane execution and going under a general anaesthetic is waking up from the latter-well usually.

You're too bloody squeamish to humanely put a sick animal 'to sleep', but you'll happily incarcerate it in misery for forty or fifty years at public expense.

That's plain bonkers.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 17:06:25
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Feb 28 2008, 04:50 PM) [snapback]411926[/snapback]
I agree with all of that.

I see-you're quite happy to kill another human being just because you disagree with his behaviour (war/terrorism) on the basis that YOU THINK you are correct, but you'd spare the life of somebody whom you WITNESSED brutally murdering your daughter in cold blood?????

Some very ambivalent morality floating about Europe those days.

Crazy mixed up kids!
mortonjag 2008-02-28 18:05:03
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 28 2008, 05:31 PM) [snapback]411944[/snapback]
MJ the semiotic trickster. It certainly isn't apathetic.

No-just pathetic! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-28 18:07:16
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 28 2008, 05:15 PM) [snapback]411931[/snapback]
Seriously auld yin, I'm getting really worried about you.

Are you sure you're OK?

Don't you worry yourself-more qualified folk than you are keeping a watchful eye on this 'auld yin'!
mortonjag 2008-02-28 18:12:42
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Feb 28 2008, 05:35 PM) [snapback]411947[/snapback]
certain circumstances, where force is the last resort. I think that's pretty simple. Doesn't always work out, see afghanistan et al.

Whereas you are quite happy to top someone, whether they did or not. Just because you think they might have done it.

Some very ambivalent morality floating about Europe those days.

Crazy mixed up pensioners!

I did not say or suggest that.

It seems quite simple to me-you see killing a fellow human as justified under your set of rules, but you object to the humane termination of the life of a PROVEN murderer.

mortonjag 2008-02-28 18:18:04
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 28 2008, 05:38 PM) [snapback]411950[/snapback]
As I said and Mortonjag has clearly ignored, there have been far too many cases when "criminals" on death row have had their convictions quashed, due to mistakes or new evidence.
The week's research just strengthens the case that at least 99% of the Sun's online voters are c*nts.
The big question of course is: Has Mortonjag actually been replaced by Trevor Kavanagh? unsure.gif tongue.gif

The burden of proof is always on the prosecution.If a case has been materially weakened by 'new evidence' that does not suddenly define innocence. You're just shooting yourself in the foot there. Clearly huge steps are taken NOT to execute without conclusive proof.

...and will you be the first namby pamby to admit he IS for the death penalty if somebody slays his dearly beloved in cold blood, or will you be rushing to find him a counsellor and social worker?
mortonjag 2008-02-28 18:32:53
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 28 2008, 06:23 PM) [snapback]411969[/snapback]
Life for a life is not the way to go about justice in my opinion.

It is too risky to have someone be killed then later proven to be innocent, even if there is a shred of doubt that someone may have not done the crime surely the death sentence cannot be carried out!

In this day and age of technology you would think it would be easier than ever to prove someone carried out a crime but if anything it is just adding more doubts.

Keep them in for life on the minimals to survive is a far better option in my mind.

And regardless, short of a dictator coming in, the death penalty will never return!

I agree with the principle but not the practicality Puggs. I am in favour of exterminating proven menaces to society. How often has true doubt existed in the convictions of serial mass murderers. Most homicides in this country are committed in a domestic situation by first offenders. Often, but not always they plead guilty to a diminished charge.

I'm STILL waiting for the first piece of honesty from the lily livered. I'll ask the question again. If there was overwhelming proof-including that of your own eyes-that somebody had brutally and gratuitously murdered your most dear friend, and you were offered the option to sanction his humane execution-what would the response be?
mortonjag 2008-02-28 18:34:51
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 28 2008, 05:47 PM) [snapback]411952[/snapback]
Does Campbell St go all the way up to Newton Street?

Or were you avoided Mr Campbell who, if memory serves, was the rector of the Academy?

He hadn't even started teaching in Paisley Grammar when Newt was a nipper Mr Bam!
mortonjag 2008-02-28 18:38:34 That sounds like a cat fight well worth missing-will George be putting on his poosy suit BTW?
mortonjag 2008-02-28 18:50:47
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 28 2008, 05:42 PM) [snapback]411951[/snapback]
I think its you who's in cloud cuckoo land.
I have lived on a sink estate and I have been threatened with a knife, so its fair to say I have a reasonable amount of persoanl experience on the matter.
Of course, its all fine and well for you to make up fictitious scenarios when in reality you do not have a clue about the situation.

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Aye right son-I've seen more stabbings than you've had hot dinners-AND had to give professional evidence in the High Court in a couple of cases.

The first one I saw, by strange coincidence, was in the old Greenock Royal Infirmary, where I was working my holidays from Medical School. I still remember thinking it was strange that it had happened at a 'Party'.

I'm not sure what you mean by a 'sink estate', but I doubt if you've ever experienced the sort of living conditions we had-that was BEFORE we moved to the Council house in Bardrainney. I know Easterhouse, Drumchapel, Castlemilk, Pollok, Possil, Barrowfield etc., extremely well, having fearlessly climbed up dingy and dark closes at all hours of night to tend the sick and less sick.

I have done my stint as prison Medical officer at Glenochil.

Say what you like about me son-but don't call my experience in question. If necessary I can PROVE mine-and aye-birch the little b*****ds within an inch of their lives if necessary.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 18:58:14
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 28 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]411986[/snapback]
No, I oppose the death penalty no matter who the victim is.
Life imprisonment is sufficient punishment.
Just because you're an auld right-wing demented c*nt who wants to return the world back to the good old days of the 1940s (see, there were NO bad people back then) doesn't mean we all are.

You appear to be an intelligent young fool. You will learn through experience I imagine. Clearly you have absolutely no grasp of the cataclysmic volte face often demonstrated when theorists like yourself are faced with stark reality.

If somebody murdered yer Mammy in cold blood Son-you'd be right in there-believe me.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 18:59:39
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 28 2008, 06:44 PM) [snapback]411988[/snapback]
I'm delighted to hear it auld yin.

It's just that your postings are becoming more bizarre and erratic by the day and I was worried about your wellbeing, that's all.

Stay happy. smile.gif

It could of course be the interpretation which has gone somewhat awry!
mortonjag 2008-02-28 19:01:46
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 28 2008, 06:47 PM) [snapback]411989[/snapback]
Personally I doubt I would. I hope hope he rots for the rest of his life. I just don't think I could wish death on any other human...but that's just me.

Puggs I respect that-you've said what you 'think' you would do, unlike Vikington who'd make the murderer a cup of tea before helping him to mop up and conceal the body.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 19:05:06
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 28 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]411992[/snapback]
I called your sanity into question, not your experience. tongue.gif

Really!!!

You said this:

Of course, its all fine and well for you to make up fictitious scenarios when in reality you do not have a clue about the situation.

And YOU called MY sanity in question. Away and read more books son-you'll always find somebody to hang on your last word. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-28 19:06:57
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 28 2008, 06:59 PM) [snapback]411994[/snapback]
I think I'll pass on listening to people who wish death on other human beings. smile.gif

I accept your concession of defeat.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 19:10:54
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 28 2008, 07:07 PM) [snapback]412001[/snapback]
I was referring to my own situation, that i had mentioned specifically in the context to your quote. blink.gif
Of which you had absolutely no idea about, but took the opportunity to make the most ridiculously incorrect presumptions anyway.
Really!!!
I think I was right for a change. unsure.gif

Does your written English always deteriorate so badly when you get upset Son?
mortonjag 2008-02-28 19:20:06
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 28 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]412008[/snapback]
Care to answer the point rather than skip around it?
For the record, three exclamation marks (which you started and I copied in jest) would make any good English teacher's eyes bleed.
Let the language emphasise the point, not silly wee signs. smile.gif

If I choose to ejaculate thrice in emphasis young man, that's just what I'll do.

You didn't make a point so far as I could see-just stated that somebody had threatened you with a knife on an estate somewhere. What happened next-DON'T TELL ME-you sat down and talked him gently out of it over the course of forty five minutes. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif More likely you can run even faster than you post puerile nonsense.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 19:25:04
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 28 2008, 07:23 PM) [snapback]412013[/snapback]
I can assure you that's not the case. tongue.gif
Let's see, I guess that'll be one of "life's realities" that I guess I've missed due to my very protective upbringing - aye, that rings a bell.
Section for Mortonjag. huh.gif

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Ah Vikington's NOT a pacifist at all-he's a closet hard man! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-28 19:29:34
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 28 2008, 07:24 PM) [snapback]412016[/snapback]
I don't know, you show a bit of friendly concern for a fellow Ton fan's health and all you get is nippy and sarcastic replies. rolleyes.gif

No but, all joking aside, take it easy eh.

Maybe I'm taking it too easy CHC-guess I could go back out to work for all that filthy lucre that isn't deserved, but I'm more than contented with my wee family, my sanity, and my daily conversations with the Monkey.
mortonjag 2008-02-29 08:37:56
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 28 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]412087[/snapback]
That includes 1min 29secs for the post coital ciggy though.

I expect. It's got to.

Are YOU feeling all right-I worry about your unhealthy obsession with sexual connotation?
mortonjag 2008-02-29 08:40:20 Blu tack is one of the most disgustingly over rated products I've never used.
mortonjag 2008-02-29 08:42:23
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 28 2008, 10:29 PM) [snapback]412147[/snapback]
Aye right! tongue.gif

I like your flower.
mortonjag 2008-02-29 08:47:17
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 28 2008, 07:53 PM) [snapback]412033[/snapback]
The SNP government scrapped the endowment charge currently paid by Scottish students after they graduate.

Labour MSPs and the Conservatives voted against abolition mad.gif

"Access to university should be based on ability to learn, not ability to pay"

Fiona Hyslop
Education Secretary

Well done that woman-the tax payer may make up the deficit of course-I don't have a problem with that-more than likely, though, they'll just let underfunding of further education go from bad to worse.
mortonjag 2008-02-29 08:54:21
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 29 2008, 02:31 AM) [snapback]412185[/snapback]
The long term effects of cannabis use are still being debated. I'm not a user myself but I agree paranoia is clearly one of the major side effects going on personal and anecdotal experience.

However I've yet to see someone stoned act aggressive. It's almost impossible.

Paranoia can persist for lengthy periods after the drug has been stopped or withdrawn. In many cases it has been so severe that an initial diagnosis of primary paranoid schizophrenia has been made.

Primary paranoid schizophrenia is historically the commonest disorder resulting in admission to State Mental Hospitals.
mortonjag 2008-02-29 08:58:42
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Feb 28 2008, 11:14 PM) [snapback]412160[/snapback]
Why is it too long redsox? I really think anyone carrying a knife without good reason (or some kind of permit) i.e. chef, carpet fitter etc. should be locked up for 2 years at least. You may get the odd case of some bam carrying a knife about at silly'o'clock in the morning, steaming, because they use it for their day job. Cases like this can go to a judge, sense will prevail and these people would be jailed an all,
Once again you use the word 'son' when you get upset, as your last resort to patronise someone.

Don't be silly Dad-that child is literally young enough to be my grandson, and he should think himself damned lucky to have my patronage and wisdom at his disposal. Is that OK with you Uncle Fester?
mortonjag 2008-02-29 09:06:25
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 29 2008, 02:34 AM) [snapback]412186[/snapback]
I want to know why MortonJag goes on about his own life experiences as proof of his own theories as he's "clearly" older and wiser. He's saw more stabbings/fights/clam bakes than the rest of us and that's all the proof he needs

Whereas when his anecdotal evidence is betrayed by a common experience as shown in statistic and facts based on a wider population, rather than is own miniscule experiences, it's a pile of s***e.

Of course I don't expect MJ to answer this in a straightforward manner but look forward to his dodging of the question and his reply being the literary equivalent of rubbing my head and calling me a "whippersnapper"

That is the usual pathetically puerile and squirming response of a brat who thinks he knows more than somebody three times his age and with a wealth of life experience.

Ye canny teach yer Granny tae suck eggs SON-and sooner or later that truth may dawn.


mortonjag 2008-02-29 09:10:00
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 28 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]411974[/snapback]
We've had this discussion before MJ.

The justice system simply doesn't work like that. It's very black and white, If you're found guilty, then by definition you're 100% guilty and if you're found not guilty then by definition you're 100% innocent.

There are no measurable levels of 'probability of guilt' that you can use to determine if the death penalty should be applied or not.

It is absolutely certain that if the death penalty was re-introduced for murder then some innocent people would be hung, as happened in the past.

No it is NOT absolutely certain, though I concur that it's highly probable.

It is ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN that if the death penalty were re-introduced some innocent people would not be murdered.
mortonjag 2008-02-29 09:14:12
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Feb 28 2008, 07:28 PM) [snapback]412020[/snapback]
You did in an earlier post.

Enough of the sophistry. Certain circumstances can include self-defence. But enough people "proven" of crimes later turn out to be innocent.

I disapprove of state sanctioned cold blooded killing. Is that clear enough for you. And for criminals, life should mean life. And I say that having lived in at least two countries that had the death penalty. And equally corrupt coppers.

Clear as mud Sir.

War IS state sanctioned cold blooded killing-hadn't you noticed?
mortonjag 2008-02-29 09:21:19
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Feb 28 2008, 07:56 PM) [snapback]412034[/snapback]
Sorry MJ but I can't accept your thoughts on this one. I said lethal force was acceptable under certain circumstances and that would include trying to stop^someone brutally murder my dearest friend in front of me - whether I would survive to tell the tale would be extremely doubtful and under under your kangeroo court I'd recieve the death penalty anyway.

Am I saying that in those specific circumstances would I ask for the death penalty, in all honesty I probably would. But as I also said apart from the fleeting joy from sating my vengence what suffering have I aliviated, none!

Thankfully that is why our law making decisions needs to be deliberated in the cold light of day and made as impassionately as possible. Otherwise you might as well throw the rule book out the window.

ScotinBelgie

Or put more succinctly-f*ck the victim-he's dead anyway and we can't bring him back-it's this poor tortured soul who needs consideration.

If somebody murdered my best friend in cold blood in front of my eyes and I had the privilege of legally exterminating him, I'm sure the memory of the thrill and pleasure would last for the rest of my life.

For me at least it arouses stronger emotions than being beaten by 'The Midden'.

Then again I'm just an uncomplicated old soul who was brought up in the days when accountability meant telling the truth.
mortonjag 2008-02-29 09:29:15
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 29 2008, 02:38 AM) [snapback]412187[/snapback]
My response would be "f*** the humane execution. Let me kick them in the balls until they die" and I would feel my response was reasoned. However no-one who sees their friend brutally and gratuitously murdered is in any fit state to dish out law. f*** it. Let's get rid of the polis and bring in vigalante justice? You're a f***ing idiot.

There are reasons we have laws, courts, judges, juries, etc. If you're honestly gonna act so f***ing pig ignorant then you deserce the ridicule you receive on this forum.

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Would they be similar reasons to those for wanting zero tolerance for all knife carrying?

Laws are NOT made in a vacuum by robots-they are supposed to uphold the general good-to protect generally held value systems, and to improve the quality and safety of life.

Unfortunately lawmaking is frequently tainted by input from clowns with warped political agenda.

If a referendum on capital punishment was held today I believe the true feelings of the people would emerge.

Finally SON, I am NOT an idiot-nor at this moment am I f*cking.
mortonjag 2008-02-29 09:35:27
QUOTE(forzaton @ Feb 29 2008, 08:34 AM) [snapback]412197[/snapback]
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probs another 8 pager
the reactionary brigade are sharpening their rapier wits as we speak by reading the daily mail this morning whilst frothing about the state of good old blighty

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Whilst our more enlightened posters are trying to get rid of their passports on e-Bay.
mortonjag 2008-02-29 09:37:58
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 29 2008, 08:43 AM) [snapback]412201[/snapback]
Nah, surely that must be Prozac. tongue.gif

Don't be daft-I have prescribed fluoxetine for many of my patients-an excellent preparation if used with discrimination.
mortonjag 2008-02-29 09:42:22
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 29 2008, 09:10 AM) [snapback]412217[/snapback]
MJ it can't be good for the old ticker being so angry all the time.

Take a Prozac and have a wee lie down. smile.gif

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ANGRY-I'LL F*CKIN' ANGRY YOU-I'M VERY VERY CALM mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

GET IT?


PS-You are correct-I should know much better than to let those ignorant young whippersnappers get under my skin.

I've taken three Prozac and the Monkey is giving me a big cuddle. Normal service will be resumed as soon as possible.
mortonjag 2008-02-29 09:43:43
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 29 2008, 08:47 AM) [snapback]412207[/snapback]
I thought QT was pretty bland last night - largely because the questions, which are vetted by the BBC, were so tired and predictable. Coming from Scotland, it would have sparked things off a bit if there had been some interesting and heated debate, but no, the predictable stuff about "Should Harry be sent home" etc, could have been Surrey. I enjoy George Galloway as entertainment, but he doesn't half like the sounnd of his own voice, and he seemed to be asked to speak first at nearly every question.

Nicola Sturgeon talks sense about most things, Annabel Goldie surprisingly does too and obviously isn't one to toe the party line too closely, Nicol Stephen is surely a new brand of sleeping pill, and Cathy Jamieson is pointless - like Wendy but blonder.

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mortonjag 2008-02-29 09:45:09
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 29 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]412214[/snapback]
QT has been absolute cack for ages. I thought too coming from Scotland the questions could have diversified from the normal UK blandness.
But David Dumblebore would have none of it. Galloway was good, Sturgeon kept her answers sensible, Goldie got into a wee bit of a panic with one particular question. Steven was boring, and Jaimieson was completely out of touch, just like her party.

Nice to hear she's learning.
mortonjag 2008-02-29 09:47:06
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 29 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]412208[/snapback]
Has the funding of further education not just increased by more than in any recent previous year? Despite what the (well-known Labour supporter) Dundee Uni principal was thrying to imply.

Alibi-I have a personal interest in this-at the last count that was certainly not the case, but I will check with my source tomorrow and let you know.
mortonjag 2008-02-29 09:50:36
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 29 2008, 08:45 AM) [snapback]412205[/snapback]
I'm with Alibi on this one - on both counts tongue.gif

Where's your avatar, dear Trumpet?
mortonjag 2008-02-29 09:52:44
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 29 2008, 08:45 AM) [snapback]412204[/snapback]
Ach, take another Prozac and have a wee lie down auld yin. rolleyes.gif

Don't be daft-if I keep pumping Prozac in at the rate you've been suggesting I'll soon be upside your sexual fantasies.
mortonjag 2008-02-29 09:56:29
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 29 2008, 06:45 AM) [snapback]412191[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-03-04 09:14:37
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 29 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]412269[/snapback]
I'm sure figures were quoted and it was a tiny percentage more this year than last - something like 3.18% vs 3.15% - but an increase nevertheless.

Latest funding due to be announced in the middle of this month is likely to be up by a mere 1.5 %. That is a shortfall.

In addition, English Universities still reap an unfair advantage with tuition fees , while the Scots have to compete for staff at Nationally determined pay levels.

The message is loud and clear from those in the know. Our Universities are worse off than before. I find that singularly sad-a Scottish Further Education was once envied worldwide, yet it seems the SNP don't give a f*ck.

All politics is scum.
mortonjag 2008-03-04 13:05:48
QUOTE(big B @ Mar 3 2008, 12:09 PM) [snapback]413612[/snapback]
Well Dougie never fails I have just read his comments in Saturday's programme only he could give an apology to the fans and then have a cheap jibe at them in the same article. He states that it was only a minority of home fans that he was having a go at that were getting on the players and Jim McInally's back.

Well why I may agree about the players getting abuse by the minority of fans it was the MAJORITY that wanted rid of McInally maybe if Dougie had acted before Christmas and sacked McInally we would not be in the postion we are in at the moment as most fans had lost confidence in the manager.

I haven't seen Saturday's programme.

What I DO seem to recall very clearly is that Mr Rae was wheeling out statistics in a previous edition of 'Shoogly Peg' to PROVE that the bad nasty wicked and misguided home support was MAKING the team lose at Cappielow, as distinct from the angels who travel to away games (and presumably visit the sick on home match days).

So the old fart has given a back handed apology has he-well WHOOPY f***IN' DOO-and to the VERY SMALL MINORITY wink.gif wink.gif to whom it's apparently directed-lap it up-the next one will be a long time comin'!
mortonjag 2008-03-04 16:07:39 Interestingly, the accounts to December 31, 2005 for Heartshape Ltd, whose group activities include insurance broking, credit management, property development and building services, show a loss of £1.883 million and a balance sheet deficiency of £1.617 million. This raises serious questions over Heartshape�€™s solvency, particularly when they are due so much money from Gretna. The accounts to December 31, 2006 for Heartshape should have been lodged by October but were not. The auditors resigned in January 2008.

Mileson was, is, and always will be a chancer.
mortonjag 2008-03-04 16:10:29
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 4 2008, 02:25 PM) [snapback]414176[/snapback]
I bet you creamed your pants when you saw a thread called " Dougie Rae " that wasnt started by you tongue.gif

Not at all!

Mortonjag has been somewhat indisposed for a while, but his little helpers will always be on hand when needed.
mortonjag 2008-03-04 16:19:31
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 4 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]414220[/snapback]
The very good work continues with this SNP government.

Child cancer care units retained

Cancer services for children will be "retained and enhanced" in Aberdeen, Edinburgh, Glasgow and Dundee, Health Secretary Nicola Sturgeon has said

Ms Sturgeon said: "I realise there has been a great deal of uncertainty over children's cancer services in Scotland and I can now remove any doubts."

"Fighting cancer is a traumatic enough experience for any child, without having to travel hundreds of miles for treatment Said Mike Rumbles

Sometimes you really DO come over as a CLOWN bannock baws.

You started a thread about your wonderful SNP and our once proud Scottish Universities- which are currently being UNFERFUNDED by them-sold down the river if you like.

Have you no shame? Instead of arguing your point on that issue-if indeed you really have one, you highlight another piece of that pathetic little creep's spin. What did you expect her to say-they woud be scrapped? dry.gif dry.gif dry.gif dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-04 16:36:03
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 4 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]414225[/snapback]
Don't see why Raydale was good enough for our "big" support in the 2nd and 3rd or why Partick's away support were well accomodated in the 2nd as well but it's not big enough for our support in the 1st.

It's quite simple-Pony Tail has been well exposed for the charlatan he always was.

It was easy for lazy hacks to promote 'Living the Dream' when it suited them.

Now that the 'Born again Christian's financial habits are looking somewhat heathen, patience has rapidly worn thin.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 08:53:40
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 4 2008, 04:58 PM) [snapback]414257[/snapback]
Well when the Labour/Lib-Dem administration was in government hospitals and units were going to get closed. So she may have well closed these units like the previous administration. But she didn't !

Why is your venom directed at the SNP ? They can only spend a certain part of a budget on hospitals and Uni's. A budget they get from Westminster. Perhaps your venomous posts are directed at the wrong people.

My 'venom' as you describe it is directed at ALL politicians-it just so happens that we have your clown party in at the moment.

Clearly you believe the Scottish universities are doing 'just dandy' Spurtle, -in fact you appear to believe everything is 'just dandy' under this bunch of female nappy rashers paying lip service to a 'Big Jessie'.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 08:56:38
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 4 2008, 05:24 PM) [snapback]414294[/snapback]
I agree universities are underfunded, but you can hardly put the blame for that at the door of a government that's only been in power for 9 months and who have no control over revenue.

Just out of interest, from which other budget would you take the money from to increase the funding for universities?

Utter nonsense, and you know it'
mortonjag 2008-03-05 09:06:08
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 5 2008, 08:15 AM) [snapback]414493[/snapback]
I can't even begin to image the horrors that the family of a murder victim must go through.

But that horror must be even worse for the family of an innocent person that's been executed for a crime (s)he didn't commit.

You blew your case the minute you attempted to justify killing in self defence (as in war).

How many innocent people have died in the last five minutes worldwide as a result of 'justifiable'action?

If human life is sacrosanct then fine, but stop making up the rules to suit yourself.

Just as in war-where the general good is perceived to come above all else- so should it be in dealing with 'beyond reasonable doubt' killers in my book.

You will still get miscarriages of justice. Humanity is imperfect in case you hadn't noticed.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 09:08:06
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 5 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]414502[/snapback]
How is it utter nonsense? Westminster decides how much pocket money to give to Holyrood. Holyrood just decides how to allocate it. What further finance can the SNP raise? We need full fiscal autonomy to allow things to improve from that controlled situation. In fact, we need independence.

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mortonjag 2008-03-05 09:17:18
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Mar 4 2008, 04:54 PM) [snapback]414252[/snapback]
You brought up Connery's opinion as part of your agenda. You clearly don't care what Sean Connery believes outside of his view on independence and you don't think it's important. Others see things differently and question why you would quote a self confessed supporter of domestic abuse as though he was some sort of asset to nationalism.

Do you have a problem with balance or are we to assume that you would happily quote Adolf Hitler, Joe Stalin, Harold Shipman (or any other odious p***k) so long as they supported independence?

Perhaps you should consider widening your agenda to take account of morality.

Indeed he evinced a most evil form of pricking, though was very kind to his wife.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 09:19:30
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 5 2008, 09:16 AM) [snapback]414508[/snapback]
Moi! rolleyes.gif

I doubt that the SNP would welcome the Holy Father into their camp due to his views on the sinfulness of homosexual relationships, somehow they accomodate Soutar. ohmy.gif
Couldn't be anything to do with the money could it? ohmy.gif

After all Eck don't bend over for the money does he? Nobody would TRUMP the type of allegation. ohmy.gif

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All pigs in the same trough Mr Bam.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 09:28:42
QUOTE(Loveless @ Mar 4 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]414357[/snapback]
He came from a single parent family.

No surprise he turned out bad then.

Just what I was thinking-thae single parent families are mair bother than they're worth if you ask me.


Now children-are you sitting comfortably-then I'll begin.

I believe this case to be probably the most monstrous miscarriage of justice of all time. A clever, intelligent and devoted professional man with his whole life ahead of him chooses to kill a few old crumbles with insulin just because they don't smell too nice.

Get real-life's not like that-he's been stitched up for sure-and PLEASE, PLEASE let him out soon-his talents will be wasted in prison.


There again we could just top this evil piece of depravity and save ourselves a few bob.

Over to CHC! laugh.gif


Good gracious-has he just discovered that one of the victims was his long lost Granny? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-05 09:58:36
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 5 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]414518[/snapback]
So that's why I can't understand you arguing in favour of the death penalty. If we are imperfect then we shouldn't have systems in place to mitigate against that imperfection. Having a death penalty loses that course of mitigation.

And before you go off on one about PC liberalism - I think that life should mean life, that people carrying knifes need to have a bloody good reason for it or face incarceration, and that jail should not include access to things like TV unless it is for rehabilitation (i.e. education) or punishment (i.e. big brother or jeremy kyle).

I don't have too much difficulty with the concept of 'beyond reasonable doubt'.

Every now and again somebody may slip through the net (not necessarily a Saint, or even a particularly good man), but it's bound to happen on occasion, and I can entirely understand why many are too lily livered to go down that road-though I still contend that they'd be wanting to hack some b*****d's head off with their peace pipes if he'd just killed their loved ones in cold blood.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 10:01:33
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 5 2008, 08:55 AM) [snapback]414499[/snapback]
Quite agree, it's time we stopped being 'fiscally moronic' and wasting good money caring for old people. If they haven't got the dosh, let them rot, well maybe that's a bit harsh....... give them the jaggy needle to go big sleepy bye byes.
Vikington, you're not a nurse by any chance? :P

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mortonjag 2008-03-05 10:04:34
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 5 2008, 09:44 AM) [snapback]414515[/snapback]
Yup. Connery is an arse and does our nation a disservice. Eck is a chump if he doesn't realise this.

...and a bigger chump because he does but can't say no.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 10:09:21
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 5 2008, 09:48 AM) [snapback]414517[/snapback]
I don't really think Raydale is the main issue with Gretna being bad for Scottish football. Its the whole artificial nature of the club that I don't like and the fact that they paid inflated wages to hire football mercenaries (what else do you call someone prepared to drop from the SPL to the 2nd/3rd divisions?) who shafted clubs big time. Morton were one of the worst affected as they effectively postponed our promotion by a year through their unfair competition.

You have to add to that the fact that a lot of the money spent was not Brooks Mileson's. They have used creditors money and have huge unpaid bills all over the place especially in the South of Scotland.

And then there's the broken promises over development of the stadium but thats just a part of an overall nasty picture.

A few of us saw Mileson coming from afar.

The sycophantic fools who 'rubbished' us appear to have disappeared like snow off a dyke-BTW is that last comparison PC?
mortonjag 2008-03-05 10:20:22
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 5 2008, 10:13 AM) [snapback]414530[/snapback]
Aye, Scott is in the same category as Trump, albeit on a smaller scale. Just as crooked though.

I have believed for some time that more accountability should be available from those who 'buy over' football clubs.

I'm afraid I do not accept the theory that Abramovic, or Romanov, or Mileson, or even Rae for that matter can 'DO WHAT THEY LIKE' with the interests of thousands of loyal fans.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 10:25:03
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 5 2008, 09:53 AM) [snapback]414520[/snapback]
If you watch the video clips, it was'nt that bad a penalty. Yes the shot was a little weak but it was placed just inside the post and it was a great save by Hogarth. Any penalty that does'nt go in is a bad one but I've seen worse.

I do though agree with a policy thats says one miss and you are out as confidence with the next penalty must be affected.

Correct-if Hogarth had dived the other way, it would have read

Russell sent the goalie the wrong way before calmly stroking the ball just inside the opposite post.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 10:26:50
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 5 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]414529[/snapback]
If they slip through the knot, will you call it quits? tongue.gif

It's still a long drop DE!!
mortonjag 2008-03-05 10:32:58
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 5 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]414534[/snapback]
So what you're saying is that you're willing to accept that some innocent people will be executed, and that is a price worth paying.

Anyone else agree with him?

Unless I'm mistaken, you said you can get your head round murder provided it's in the context of 'self defence' as in war.

Please don't tell me it was TAFKAK or somebody else.

If the execution of one innocent person saves the lives of 1000 others of equal innocence-so be it-in fact I'd like to be one of those thousand, and you can be my saviour-if that's OK- or would you rather save your own skin and let the thousand innocents die? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-05 10:36:05
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 5 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]414545[/snapback]
Only on the general nonsense forum can you have 'fascist', the Pope and a 'gay ant' compared in one sentence. laugh.gif

Those of the homosexual workers alliance?
mortonjag 2008-03-05 10:53:55
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 5 2008, 10:44 AM) [snapback]414550[/snapback]
You are mistaken. I don't have a clue what you're wittering on about.
How does that work then? How would the execution of an innocent person save the life of even one other innocent person, let alone 1000.

Sorry MJ, I like having a lively debate as much as the next guy, but when you start come up with ridiculous unsubstantiated statements as 'facts' then it loses its point. Reasoned debate can only be conducted between rational people, and you're most certainly anything but a rational person, so for that reason I'll just let you witter on to your heart's content on this one and leave you to it.

What you mean is that 'reasoned debates' have to be played by your rules.

That is ENTIRELY different, as any rational person will agree.

Do I have to trawl through the mass of posts you've made to discover that one in which you said you accepted killing in self defence-as in war?

Oh-and in answer to your obtuse question, Mr Edwards has already cited a well known example.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 11:00:44
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 5 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]414552[/snapback]
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Come off it CHC. What's wrong with some unreasonable wittering now and again? It would be a dull old world if we were all as 'rational' as you. tongue.gif

But you miss the point Mr Edwards-the gentleman has taken it upon himself to believe that Mortonjag is mentally ill.

He may, of course, be correct, but I have told him more than once that my treatment is very effective.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 11:09:48
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 5 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]414556[/snapback]
Aye, you do just that.

It'll keep you busy for a while. rolleyes.gif

You are becoming irritable my friend-I may well have confused you with one of your fellow posters-may I be excused for that-after all, you DO all sing from the same hymn sheet!

So it's CHC the pacifist then-all killing is wrong-oh-or could it not just be-CHC the pragmatic and unprincipled clown who will say whatever he pleases for the sake of an argument?

If somebody kills your beloved, I assure you you'll be scurrying to the gallows as chief executioner faster those little Europins can carry you!
mortonjag 2008-03-05 15:53:50
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Mar 5 2008, 02:55 PM) [snapback]414627[/snapback]
I don't really think anyone's arguing with your point there, MJ - but the point is that if that happened to you, you would not be the correct person to be deciding what is or isn't just - if crimes were all to be dealt with based on the victim's emotions what is the point in having a justice system at all?

I agree entirely with that, while adding that if all crimes were dealt with on the basis of 'man's humanity to man' there would equally be no point in a justice system.

What really annoys me ST is the palpably 'holier than thou' doctrinaire which oozes from the mindless mouths of CHC et al.

That is why I believe it's legitimate to point out that if somebody killed his Mammy in cold blood, he'd happily go to the gallows to spare the life of a fellow man-and more importantly, to win a debating point! Such is the depth of his principle. dry.gif

mortonjag 2008-03-05 15:57:07
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 5 2008, 02:48 PM) [snapback]414621[/snapback]
No. tongue.gif
I haven't seen any vast improvement since the scheme was introduced that means it can't be reversed.
And the cost of it will continue to soar over successive generations, for not much of a return IMO.

Would you like some English tuition?

The Monkey's free at present. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-05 16:00:50
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 5 2008, 03:54 PM) [snapback]414639[/snapback]
You clearly don't seem to understand how the Scottish government is funded.

I believe the SNP minority government has done extremely well distributing the "pocket money" they receive from the Westminster government for the benefit of the people of Scotland.

Scrapping tolls, scrapping student fees, keeping hospitals marked for closure open etc. Things that were not going happen under the previous administration

But you can only stretch the "pocket money" so far.

The real shame of it all, is we send the money down to London that can be used to fund Universities and build the NHS into something to be proud of.
But those in London would rather use our money to fund illegal wars and build weapons of mass destruction costing literally £Billions.

So perhaps you should look at the BIG picture MJ before you accuse !

Oh I can see the big picture just fine Haggis Heid, and spending pocket money you haven't even got is indeed the behaviour of VERY immature children.

Back to the original point-our Universities are WORSE off under the SNP.

INCONTROVERTIBLE FACT.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 16:04:40
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 5 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]414601[/snapback]
My point is that many in the SNP (apart from alibi) would regard the holy father's stance as homophobic.
The holy father's views on man lurve would be anathema to many in the SNP, they tolerate Soutar because of his dosh.

What are your views on cozying up to Soutar? unsure.gif

BTW I don't mean cozying up in a man lurve sorta way. smile.gif

He must still be working on the thesis.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 16:07:30
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Mar 5 2008, 12:42 PM) [snapback]414579[/snapback]
never mind body parts of executed criminals...i think body parts of all inmates who die in prison should be used for donor use!

What-even those who die innocent of any crime Thrax? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-05 16:08:31
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Mar 5 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]414581[/snapback]
I actually believe in the opt out Donor Scheme

Everyone should considered as a donor unless they feel strongly enough to opt out !

I don't.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 16:18:30
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Mar 5 2008, 04:10 PM) [snapback]414652[/snapback]
laugh.gif i was only kidden on tbh....but since u put it like that...YES

everyone who dies in prison get their giblets pulled out of them....prison guards included

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If only I had as much faith in those career minded transplant doctors as the rest of you.

What's this crap about having to 'opt out' of THEM owning my body?

ABSOLUTE TOSH.

I DO have principles you know, though I guess the chat up line-'Have you ever felt a serial rapist's Willy' might raise a few eyebrows.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 16:26:51
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 5 2008, 02:55 PM) [snapback]414626[/snapback]
That was ludicrous.

I successfully predicted all but one of the penalties last night based on who was taking them, and to a lesser extent the run-ups, and I usually get penalty predictions totally wrong.

Jimenez and his men want taken out and shot for that whole sorry debacle.

(I'm not a Sevilla fan but I like to see them do well as a strong Sevilla is good for Spanish football, so it pisses me off when they lose such a preventable game.)

Anyway, on topic... if Jamie Stevenson wasn't injured or whatever ,we wouldn't be having this conversation, as he's immense at penalties.

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Is this a spillover from the current debate on capital punishment?
mortonjag 2008-03-05 19:04:24
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 5 2008, 06:33 PM) [snapback]414700[/snapback]
He's too busy slevvering about executing anyone and everyone even remotely involved with crime.
And writing reading the Daily Mail. unsure.gif

I apologise 'UNRESERVEDLY'- followed in the very next sentence by-'I don't think my comments were out of place', and somewhat further on by a promise to choose his comments more carefully in future.

Now isn't that just oor AULD SHOOGLY!!!


G'on yersel ya old dreamer-ye'll NEVER change. laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-05 19:07:12
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 5 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]414711[/snapback]
I was on 'Songs of Praise' when I was 5.

That explains much.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 19:16:07
QUOTE(Yoda @ Mar 5 2008, 04:48 PM) [snapback]414665[/snapback]
I know the type of doctor you are speaking of, who would transplant a questionable organ or a good organ into a recipient for it to either be of no use or worse than the person had in the first place. There are so many factors and dangers in transplants not just rejection. I unfortunately have had dealings with one such surgeon an eminant "specialist" who's ego was writing cheques his knowledge and ability could not cash.

Yes it is not quite as cut and dried as opt out, there are other morals to be considered, such as would there be some career surgeons a bit too knife happy to wait to even ask the relatives or would they perhaps not try to locate them as quickly.
The current system we have does not bring forth enough organs to meet demand, what other alternative is there, at least with an opt out scheme those who need actually recieve and those who object strongly will opt out. The whole subject is a huge maze of opinion and I don't think a solution will ever come forward that everyone will be completely comfortable with.

It is indeed laughable that we have today got so worked up about the humane extermination of proven killers, yet are perfectly happy to place our lives in the hands of those wonderful transplant doctors with ne'er a doubting thought!!!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-05 19:17:34
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 5 2008, 05:06 PM) [snapback]414671[/snapback]
I think that the opt-out scheme is a basic infringement of rights - organs should be seen as yours until you choose to donate: it should be a gift, not an expectation.

Young man-you sometimes get it just right! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-05 19:18:49
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 5 2008, 05:55 PM) [snapback]414682[/snapback]
Quite- though I would add that if anyone who had not opted in to the organ donation scheme suddenly needed a transplant they should be told to get tae f'ck. blink.gif
That is only fair.

If utterly illegal!
mortonjag 2008-03-05 19:24:50
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 5 2008, 07:16 PM) [snapback]414724[/snapback]
MJ mate, I suggest that you call your doctor first thing in the morning and tell him that the medication he's given you ain't working. rolleyes.gif

CHC 'mate' he'll need a note of your medical qualifications before he'll listen to a word you say.

Now-would you WANT to exterminate somebody for killing your best friend in cold blood? I would.

I hope that question can be taken to be perfectly unbiased and reasonable.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 19:29:21
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 5 2008, 07:13 PM) [snapback]414722[/snapback]
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Aye, it explains that my maw dragged me along to church when I was 5. rolleyes.gif

HA-but 'Songs of Praise' is NOT 'church' --it's a well known pig fest where you flout your good Christianity, cherubic five year old, and best bunnet on the telly.

As I said-much has been explained.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 19:35:40
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 5 2008, 04:39 PM) [snapback]414660[/snapback]
Alright Dr Doom. Who's at fault and what's the solution ?

I don't do politics Bannock Baws-that doesn't stop me from seeing when things are wrong.

mortonjag 2008-03-05 19:41:56
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 5 2008, 07:35 PM) [snapback]414736[/snapback]
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MJ you're as mad as a sack of ferrets but this board would be a much duller place without you. laugh.gif

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Shh-don't let the good Mr taig Bam hear this, but I almost literally wet myself watching the procession of tomfoolery making its way into Mearns Parish Church for 'Songs of Praise'.

CHRISTIANS-that lot-well thank f*ck I'm going elsewhere.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 19:45:37
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 5 2008, 07:35 PM) [snapback]414734[/snapback]
PM tried to arrange deal with Lib Dems to keep Salmond out

http://www.stv.tv/content/news/headline ... _t_2008030

Gordon Brown was so desperate to keep Alex Salmond from being First Minister he tried to cut a deal to keep him out of power. Sir Menzies Campbell, the former UK Lib Dem leader, reveals in his autobiography that the Prime Minister asked for two secret meetings with him to talk about forming a coalition, even if the SNP won the election.

Described as cloak and dagger, these meetings between the soon-to-be Prime Minister and Lib Dem leader to stop Alex Salmond becoming First Minister even if the SNP won the election are remarkable. During the campaign Gordon Brown had made it clear he would not work with Mr Salmond if he was elected.

But until now it was not known the lengths he would go to prevent the SNP taking power. In his autobiography Sir Menzies Campbell says Gordon Brown invited him to two secret meetings to discuss a third Labour-Lib Dem coalition Government to keep the SNP out of office even if the Nationalists won the election.

Menzies Campbell took the first call from Mr Brown here at his Edinburgh home on Easter Sunday. After the first meeting was cancelled Mr Campbell's wife Elspeth then arranged another one commenting to Gordon Brown that it was cloak and dagger stuff. The then Chancellor replied "Not too many daggers I hope". But evidently he had the knives out for the SNP.

The former Scottish Labour leader Jack McConnell says he did not know about these secret meeting but he always maintained the largest party after the election should be allowed to get first go at forming a government. A senior Labour source has also said that so desperate was Mr Brown to prevent Alex Salmond becoming First Minister, he proposed that Labour MSPs voted for Scottish Lib Dem leader Nicol Stephen to do the job.

The Prime Minister would not comment on today's revelations

Is it really worth your while constantly reminding us of the devious amorality of ALL POLITICIANS, Spurtle?

You don't REALLY believe in Mr Salmond any more than Santa Claus-DO YOU? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-05 19:49:55
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 5 2008, 07:38 PM) [snapback]414737[/snapback]
I'm up for it.

Provided there is no sex involved, I will happily meet with Mr Rae.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 20:37:01
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 5 2008, 07:52 PM) [snapback]414745[/snapback]
but thats what we're all waiting for. we might aswell just all give up now.

no point in supporting Morton anymore, we're not gonna get what we came for.

So you want to see Auld Shoogly shafted-is that it?
mortonjag 2008-03-05 20:39:20
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 5 2008, 07:54 PM) [snapback]414746[/snapback]
Here's one Dr Midtons made earlier.
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Bit of the Jimbo/Spoonsy/Kev in that face!
mortonjag 2008-03-05 20:41:25
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Mar 5 2008, 08:05 PM) [snapback]414756[/snapback]
St Kilda is the place for them, just keep filling up ships and coup them in the watter 100 yds from the shores of St Kilda, if they make it then they would be more than welcome to see oot their days on that lovely island!

Ach-toss them all in a big mincer and make meatballs for the world's starving.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 20:46:07
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 5 2008, 08:40 PM) [snapback]414767[/snapback]
What does that mean. Salmond is a pragmatist who would ahve got into bed with the libdems if he had to do so. It's what grown up politicians do to protect power. In what way is it crooked?

Bawheid is indeed a pragmatist-his marriage may even have been a tad pragmatic, though who am I to judge!

Show me an honest politician and I'll show you my Willy.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 20:48:28
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 5 2008, 08:36 PM) [snapback]414762[/snapback]
Of course you do. If you have an opinion on anything you 'do politics'.

Nonsense McArthur-don't start befuddling us with your opinions of definitions.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 20:53:50
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 5 2008, 08:42 PM) [snapback]414770[/snapback]
What he said.

TO SAVE US FROM OURSELVES!!!!!

You misunderstood my friends-it was that other murdering b*****d I intended to massacre-before he kills again-and again-and again.

How do we save ourselves from ourselves when we only have ourselves to do the saving?

Are we going to introduce the'Big man' into the argument at some point-aye I sense that a comin'---God said-thou shalt not kill, and if you do I'll f*ckin' murder you. laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-05 20:56:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 5 2008, 08:53 PM) [snapback]414779[/snapback]
And don't you add to the fuddle with your definition of opinions.

As the man with the peg leg said DE, it's a matter of a pinion.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 20:56:59
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 5 2008, 08:48 PM) [snapback]414777[/snapback]
Promises, promises. But I think your genitalia are safe.

....and my Willy?
mortonjag 2008-03-05 21:00:15 You really are dirty young boys-I imagine you'll be wanting it done with full symbolism in the shape of a giant Fudgy Wudgy.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 08:36:03
QUOTE(dmc @ Mar 5 2008, 10:29 PM) [snapback]414819[/snapback]
You could be on to something there!!!! unsure.gif (as long as you don't tell the starving wink.gif )

Conned beef?
mortonjag 2008-03-06 08:40:20
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 5 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]414790[/snapback]
Which law would be broken?

Mortonjag's law which states that the sudden need for a transplant is JUST that-why should you Mr Bam, or anybody else for that matter have the advantage over some poor woman, just 'cos you pledged yer Willy and she didn't have one?
mortonjag 2008-03-06 08:46:10
QUOTE(leyTON @ Mar 5 2008, 11:18 PM) [snapback]414839[/snapback]
well the organ donation from dead criminals isnt the issue
the people who are opposed to the death penalty as awhole, not the individual aspects of it
im notsure about the opt out scheme, people are reluctant to chose to donate as they dont want to think about their death

Oh I'm more than happy to donate so long as I'm definitely dead, but you see the only person I'd truly trust with that diagnosis is myself.

I've dreamed many times of bequeathing my brain to Shoogly should I predecease him-my heart can go to Spurtle to make up for the current deficit, and my Willy's already spoken for.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 08:51:48
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 5 2008, 11:26 PM) [snapback]414846[/snapback]
Don't get nationalism mixed up with monarchism. You can be both, although I would want a republic.

Right now we can't really do anything to oust the Royals. After independence I believe we could.

And you could be King Col of the neo monarchist republic of Bawheidia where all subjects are cool and calm and worship Salmond.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 08:54:14
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 5 2008, 09:25 PM) [snapback]414797[/snapback]
MJ, you are as nutty as a fruitcake.

Your postings have gone from being slightly eccentric but mildly amusing to downright bizarre.

One day you will understand!
mortonjag 2008-03-06 08:56:50
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Mar 6 2008, 12:34 AM) [snapback]414864[/snapback]
http://www.damianslaw.com/

nuff said

why should we continue to pay for guys who have committed murder, we could lock them up for life, they then have nothing to lose and then they may want to murder a warder who is there to feed his family and make a living, as I said before if there is a murder committed where there is no doubt then why waste the money keeping them alive.

The justice system is an ass, the innocent are the victims. I would say that regarding people like the murderer, rapist from ipswich, hey you know what, we'll give you a key to your cell, a job, family visits, tv, video, dvd and the oppertunity to exist at the tax payers expense.

I can see both sides of the for and against argument but its a complete joke that these guys who can carry out such crimes are allowed to survive in a manner that they do not deserve. I know people who get and have less than these guys who are more deserving and dont complain. These guys will complain if a visit is late, thier papers are not there on time, they dont get pt, they dont feel like going to work.................................the victims cant.

Would you also top Mr Somers for being a pyuf?


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mortonjag 2008-03-06 09:02:43
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 6 2008, 12:40 AM) [snapback]414865[/snapback]
Unless you are god you have absolutely no right to say whether someone deserves to live or die. Killing someone, for any reason, is just as bad as cold blooded murder at the end of the day. You are taking away a living person's life. That sits easy with you?

Really GOD-thank you so much for that helpful piece of information oh hallowed lawmaker.

BTW while you were pontificating somebody just raped your partner before chopping her up into little pieces. He's currently chewing on her left nipple which he slightly undercooked in that big pot.

I am not God, almightly lawmaker, but how could you let that happen to your beloved, and more importantly will you let him do it again? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-06 09:07:43
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 5 2008, 11:27 PM) [snapback]414847[/snapback]
Brown a son of the Manse too rolleyes.gif

It's well known that in hell you can't get near the fire for f*ckin' ministers.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 09:10:47
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 6 2008, 08:07 AM) [snapback]414879[/snapback]
No. God forbid Labour or indeed any other Party were to be voted the biggest Party after the next election, then they have the moral right to try and form a government.
To try an undermine not only the democratic will of the people, and go behind even the elected leaders of your own Party in Scotland, is a sleekit inderhand and morally corrupt thing to do.

The SNP, I take it, is above all sleekitness, underhandedness, and moral corruption Spurtle.

Can you please confirm for posterity that that is indeed your allegation?
mortonjag 2008-03-06 09:13:23
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 6 2008, 07:49 AM) [snapback]414875[/snapback]
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Who is he?
mortonjag 2008-03-06 09:16:29
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 5 2008, 11:29 PM) [snapback]414852[/snapback]
One thinks that one has too much time to 'think'! - maybe one needs to 'get a life'

I will happily teach one if one cares to p.m. me!

Life is life na na,na na na.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 09:19:51 Happy days are back again-we are debating penalty takers instead of sacking managers.

I'd let Ryan Harding take the penalties, because he's dead cool.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 09:22:35
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 6 2008, 09:16 AM) [snapback]414906[/snapback]
But the SNP are a minority government who spent a lot of time trying to set up a coalition, but couldn't. When you have a situation like that all parties have the right to form a government. It's called democracy. Nobody wanted to form a coalition so the SNP get to rule, but they don't have the mandate as a majority party. You need over 50% of the seats to do that.
On your last point I disagree. The SNP were trying to form a coalition to gain power from a minority position. Labour were trying to form a coalition to hold onto power from a minority position. I'm not sure what the difference is. And surely you are happy with the outcome.

Is it true that Bawheid is a professional gambler, or was that his faither?
mortonjag 2008-03-06 09:23:54
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Mar 6 2008, 09:21 AM) [snapback]414908[/snapback]
He is the gorgeous guy from Dirty Dancing Mr Jag, surprise you have never heard of him. What's wrong with him anyway? unsure.gif

TY-I'm afraid I don't know anything about dirty dancing either though the Monkey says it sounds like good fun.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 09:32:11
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 6 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]414912[/snapback]
Wiki doesn't say tongue.gif

Is the skettleon on strike again.

Make it move for the Monkey!
mortonjag 2008-03-06 09:37:51
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 6 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]414915[/snapback]
I think this thread would have developed differently had it been started by anyone other than Colkitto....

The point here is that Gordon Brown tried to do a deal behind the backs of his own colleagues who are supposed to be in charge of Labour in Scotland. He was in effect trying to subvert democracy. Incidentally it was said at the time that part of the reason that the LibDems wouldn't go into a coalition with the SNP was that Ming had been offered a ministerial position in a future Labour-LibDem coalition in Westminster, a scenario that seemed, and may still seem, quite likely if as expected the Labour vote slumps at the next Westminster election. Ming leaned on his Scottish leaders heavily and of course they did what they were told. Ming eventually turned down the offer although at the time it seems he was going to accept - he denied that, but that may be one of the reasons he was forced out of the leadership.

It's no secret that the unionist parties are doing their best to wreck anything the SNP government tries to do, by overt or covert means. They would rather see Scotland do badly than see it do well under an SNP government. That's what is meant when it is said that people like Des Browne, Gordon Brown, David Cairns, and their like are anti-Scottish.

Given that there appears to be no moral code in politics I cannot but applauud their Machiavellian stance.

Now if only our sweet and innocent little virgin first minister could lower himself to PIG level----but that just wouldn't be Scottish-would it?

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mortonjag 2008-03-06 12:17:39
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 6 2008, 11:36 AM) [snapback]414966[/snapback]
I still feel Finlayson is in the running for Player of the Year. He puts in an amazing amount of effort.
He has come on leaps and bounds from last year, working on the technical aspects of his game, and it's paying off.

The wing back role is his for the rest of the season. Nobody at present in the squad can play better in that role. Not even Stevenson who the thread was originally about.

Can we afford a player like Stevenson ? A very talented player who seems only able to play in one position. Too few times has he shown his true ability. And one of his faults is he isn't versatile. for me that's no good to a Morton team in this division.

As suggested by Mortonjag a long, long time ago!

Problem with Jimbo AND Kev is quite simple-neither is, or ever will be a winger. JM, it would seem, did not believe in wingers, and his legacy will be with us for a while yet.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 12:23:51
QUOTE(Yoda @ Mar 6 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]414931[/snapback]
I fully understand your reticence, but given what will happen to your body next ie burny fire or big box with six feet of earth on top, how do you plan to make sure? Have you instructed Munx to throttle you just to to be certain?

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He's too squeamish for that sort of thing-unlike his little friend 'Fing', who fully understands his remit and can often be spotted practising in the kitchen with a turnip and nail gun.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 12:28:23
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 6 2008, 11:15 AM) [snapback]414956[/snapback]
I disagree with the first point. Everyone has a moral right, when elected to parliament, to try and form a government. The SNP, with the most seats, were in the best position to do so, but they no had no more moral right than any of the others to have a crack.
The 2nd point I agree with and they also probably thought that it would give them the chance to say how crap the SNP were at ruling. An opportunity they haven't had yet despite some flirtation with strange people.
The 3rd point I disagree with completely. PR basically stops any party having the chance to rule unfettered. The first government was coalition, the 2nd a minority. So, it could be argued by paranoid labour supporters that the system is set up to stop labour having a full majority. All parties want to rule and power corrupts. I expect this from politicians. It's why they get into the job.

Never were truer words spoken, and IMVVVHO only a complete and utter moron could ever believe otherwise.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 12:31:00 Your chips are swell Mr Mc...Carthy? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-06 12:33:02
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 6 2008, 10:24 AM) [snapback]414928[/snapback]
You would be the first bannished from my Kingdom.

I would venture not into that land flowing with mink and bunnies.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 12:34:20
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 6 2008, 10:44 AM) [snapback]414939[/snapback]
Is the Communist Party not a republican unionist party ? Or George Galloway's RESPECT ?

Galloway's RESPECT-he lost that long before he became a professional poosy.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 12:42:58
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 6 2008, 11:27 AM) [snapback]414959[/snapback]
What about miscarriages of justice? Are you happy to accept the fact the innocent people will be hanged if we had capital punishment, that is a cast iron certainty. Here are just a few people out of many in the last couple of years alone who have had their murder convictions overturned.

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/12/...l?from=storyrhs

http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn33...onths-late.html

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/worl...erturned/163845

http://www.4ni.co.uk/news.asp?id=53386

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime...ned-663516.html

http://netk.net.au/Reports/Summaries1987-ToDate.asp

And perhaps most worrying of all.... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime...wed-757325.html

If you had your way they'd all be executed.

There are somewhere around 1000 murder convictions in the UK every year. Let's be extremely generous to the criminal justice system and say 99% of these convictions are correct. That still means 10 innocent people would be hanged every year if you had your way. And I think that is a very conservative estimate.

Sorry, but I can't agree that that is a price worth paying
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Yes, I'm beginning to get your drift-we must not risk humanely executing a living soul in error-not even if it were to save the lives of millions of equally innocent souls.

You Sir, are clearly keeping company with an apian friend below that baseball cap.

You have such a winsome sense of justice for the individual-I almost want to weep.

Now when you see the incontrovertible evidence captured on CCTV will you still spare the depraved c*nt who massacred your children?
mortonjag 2008-03-06 12:44:49
QUOTE(cmdc @ Mar 6 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]414963[/snapback]
I don't think you'll find the justification for capital punishment in deterrence. Thats not to say I'm against it in principle. When I think about crimes such as the Kris Donald murder, the nature of the crime and the murderers sheer disregard for human life makes me think that the most severe punishment would be deserved. But I don't think the availability of the death sentence would have prevented it from happening. To take Steve Wright or Colin Norris as other high profile examples, their crimes seemed to have a pathological nature to them that I thing the death sentence would have done little to deter.

It was a well accepted fact among the criminal fraternity prior to abolition.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 12:47:29
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 6 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]414964[/snapback]
I agree with your second point. The level of hypocrisy from some posters is astounding.

On your first point how do you kill someone humanely? Isn't that a contradiction in terms?

I'll let CHC fight the good fight on miscarriages of justice.

Not if the law has offered the criminal a choice and he has elected to suffer that fate. No point on making it any harder on him-just a little p***k on the back of the hand.

Not a big deal in return for his donation to society.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 12:48:30
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Mar 6 2008, 12:11 PM) [snapback]414973[/snapback]
thats easy..................................more humanely and with more consideration than the victim got wither it be hanging, lethal injection or firing squad, as long as it was over quickly and with minimum fuss. if you had ever seen the brutallity, and conviction that people put into murder we would not be having this debate, and it aint like tv, believe me.

as for CHC I respect his and others point of view but until they have had to deal with a thing like that or the concequences then they can try and change my point of view, which I am affraid to say will never happen.

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mortonjag 2008-03-06 12:52:57
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 6 2008, 12:33 PM) [snapback]414984[/snapback]
Once again, MortonJag, you constantly make the same point and when people pull you up on it you ignore their questions and statements and make the same point again. Please feel free to look back on any of the times you've used this ludicrous scenario and been pulled up on it and answer that.

Or else ask what I'd do if an immigrant raped, killed and ate my wife again. Seventh time's the charm and all that.
Although, clearly to you are I, they are MORE guilty: in the eyes of lady justice (who's blind. does she have eyes? there's a weird yin for ye) they are no more guilty than someone who's jury deliberates for days and still can't come to a majority verdict. At what point, within the criminal justice system, do we decide some people are more guilty than others?
Don't get me wrong. I can see why people want the death penalty back and just because I'm dead against it (no pun intended) doesn't mean I don't feel the same outrage as the lynch mobbers amongst us. Surely, however, the only moral argument for it is as a deterrent which it plainly isn't and never will be. There is no moral standpoint in saying it's deserved as surely murder, whether state sanctioned or not, still ends a human being's life. Now these guy's who go round killing kids, raping women, etc. are still human's whether they act it or whether we see them that way.

The argument that it costs so many pounds a year to keep them in prison is even more ludicrous as you're then putting a price on someone's life.

The only pro-death penalty argument that I can even sympathise with is "they deserve it". As said before, who amongst us has the right to deserve who lives and dies?

You come over as a completely misguided clown at times.

It would be refreshing if you'd STOP telling us why you're correct, and start answering some of the pertinent questions which you REPEATEDLY evade.


Killing's nasty son-and if killing one c*nt stops him killing 100 innocents-I'LL do it-thank you very much-grow up or curl up.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 12:54:49
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 6 2008, 12:49 PM) [snapback]414993[/snapback]
Thought you didn't do politics ?

The onlooker sees the whole of the game Bannock Baws.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 13:02:16
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 6 2008, 12:45 PM) [snapback]414990[/snapback]
I wouldn't try to change your point of view. The death penalty will always be an emotive subject. Experience will also have an impact on how you deal with the issues related to it. The death penalty wasn't a deterrent when we had it. Given the level of neddishness on display nowadays, what makes you think it will act as a deterrent if it is reintroduced?

I don't believe it will, but that is only a secondary consideration. I believe the current justice system is flawed. Bringing back the death penalty would leave it fatally flawed.

It was.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 13:10:21
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Mar 6 2008, 01:00 PM) [snapback]414998[/snapback]
Who exactly are we referring to here - apart from Shipman (and I'm not even sure his victims were in the hundreds?) where are you getting this figure of 100 innocents?

And btw, I'm all for the death penalty for the scrote that's scraped & bumped my car door! Which is I guess an argument against emotive calls for justice
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No it's merely further evidence of the current erosion of value systems in this once fine land of ours!


I was, of course, speaking figuratively-I find it almost incredible that posters who are clearly 'wet behind the ears' presume to pontificate on the concept of 'the general good'.

Forget all the red herrings from the dyspeptic ex pats. Every single time a child receives an immunisation there is a risk of a FATAL reaction. C'est la vie.

s*** happens and no individual is greater than the general good.

Make the laws, and top the b*****ds if they disobey.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 13:12:40
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 6 2008, 09:40 AM) [snapback]414920[/snapback]
He has pancreatic cancer. Mortonjag will be able to confirm, but I believe that doesn't do much for your chances of being at the 2010 World Cup. Or even going to spain this summer.

Normally associated with a very poor prognosis.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 13:17:53
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 5 2008, 10:08 PM) [snapback]414809[/snapback]
After watching Wylie for years the idea of him teaching kicking seems like MortonJag teaching us all about peace, love and understanding.

Amusing but worthless smile.gif

However this board is full of experts on things in which they themselves have no ability so hopefully Wylie's the same smile.gif

Admittedly you are a lost cause.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 13:28:01
QUOTE(Yoda @ Mar 6 2008, 01:19 PM) [snapback]415004[/snapback]
Given the various moral debates raging on other threads at the moment, I wondered what moral dilemas other posters would find they wrestled with.

For example - if you found a large sum of money that you knew could not be traced would you keep it or hand it in to the police? Or if you knew a member of your family to be guilty of a heinous crime, would your love for them encourage you to protect them or would you still be able to hand them in. You see a friend get in a car and drive away, you know them to have had a drink - do you call the police?

What is your nightmare - what is the decision you hope you never have to make? I think mine would be hoping I never have to choose between loved ones.

Maybe I'm a 'one off' but I don't usually have much of a problem with such issues. Rather than acting on any instilled moral code I treat every case on its merits.

If I was utterly skint, I'd never hand back that big stash, but comfortably off, I'd probably see someone else as more needy than me.

Would I shop a loved one-clearly that would depend on circumstances-but in some-DEFINITELY.

My biggest personal worry has always been that somebody may some day ask me to assist in his euthanasia. I imagine that in certain circumstances I could perform that task with humility.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 13:44:15
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 6 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]415006[/snapback]
That's a bit of a blanket statement considering we were still hanging people in the 50s. Obviously it worked for some but not for others. I think the same would apply today, but given the level of bellendedness on show these days, why do you think it would work as a greater deterrrent than it used to. If it did?

It was a deliberately blanket statement. My father in law is still alive at the age of 91, and was Barlinnie Chaplain for ten years, during which he befriended umpteen hardened lags. The chaplaincy was much more a sort of 'social work' function, rather than to do with Godly things, and 'Jimmy' used to run many an errand between the 'Bar L' and prisoners' homes.

I used to be walking along a street in the town with him when some scary looking character would approach with 'How's it goin' Boss?'.

There was a very clear message throughout the criminal fraternity in those days, and that was that you avoided getting 'topped' at all costs.

Maverick psychopaths like Manuel were not deterred of course, and The Rev Hutcheson was present at his execution, which he assured me was over before he had time to take it in. 'He never stopped walking' were his exact words.

The truth is that in the last 50 years we have allowed ourselves to become a nation of wimps.

Bring back National Service for starters-belt unruly brats in schools-re-instil a healthy fear of justified punishment-and make it once again safe for old ladies to walk out of a summer's evening.

mortonjag 2008-03-06 13:50:29
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Mar 6 2008, 12:30 PM) [snapback]414980[/snapback]
I agree.
I shouldn't be included in something which I may or may not agree with without my express permission beforehand

I should point out that in principle I may or may not decide to donate my organs, but it is my decision in the end, not the governments.

...and if your medical advisor declares that you need a transplant nobody should have the right to prevent a willing and compatible donation.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 13:58:15
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 6 2008, 01:54 PM) [snapback]415015[/snapback]
Proof in bold - if it was needed - that you are indeed Dougie Rae wink.gif

Just evidence of the correct usage of parenthesis, Puggs.

Is the sketelon ded agen Munx asks.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 14:41:57 Hamilton 1 Morton 2


Followed by an official protest to the SFA that they had wanted JM to be the Manager and it wasn't in the spirit of the game to change things without the consent of Scott Struthers and similar pufey gentlefolks.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 14:51:36
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 6 2008, 02:42 PM) [snapback]415023[/snapback]
It is a difficult one. I've always carried a donor card, much to the annoyance of my old man. His religious beliefs precluded it as he needed everything intact for the great rapture.

The thing I like about the opt-out scheme that runs in a few European countries is that the individual has to make a conscious decision to opt out, rather than the unconscious decision not to opt in that often happens in the UK.

In an ideal world I reckon I'd agree with that.

We live in a far from ideal world-a world full of ambitious and zealous transplant surgeons who often seem more interested in seeing their names in the papers than in the niceties of establishing true non viability of a human body, rushed in from a road accident.

Anyway-the whole donor - recipient business is over glamorised, and prevention has always been better than cure.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 15:57:25
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Mar 6 2008, 03:06 PM) [snapback]415028[/snapback]
Why not MJ. Quite happy to kill, but a bit sqeamish about organ donation? ohmy.gif tongue.gif I completely agee with you, your organs should be yours while you live and you can donate them as you wish. Except it's a little hard for you to offer a gift once you're dead. For the opt-out option you have that choice while you are still alive.

As long as they leave enough to make me look peaceful, they can have anything else that is still worthwhile (although that might not be alot!)

ScotinBelgie

Not in the slightest squeamish about transplant surgery, but Yoda's post is worthy of note.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 15:59:01
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 6 2008, 03:06 PM) [snapback]415027[/snapback]
You must be watching a different game from me then Doc Doom. wink.gif

I do not have your fatal fascination for naked table tennis Spurtle! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-06 16:15:35
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 6 2008, 04:10 PM) [snapback]415039[/snapback]
In which case you'd be a murderer and should hang. tongue.gif

If euthanasia is murder then I'd be a murderer, and if all murderers should hang (something I've never suggested) then I should hang.

Have you taken YOUR pills today my friend in pathology?
mortonjag 2008-03-06 16:23:25
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 6 2008, 04:19 PM) [snapback]415041[/snapback]
Not what I heard......... wink.gif

Well, as always seems to be the case, you heard wrong.

I do enjoy watching tadpoles in a jam jar-always makes me think of Bawheid and his cronies aspiring to be frogs.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 16:25:24
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 6 2008, 04:23 PM) [snapback]415042[/snapback]
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2 Harold Shipmans?

Harold Shipman was a killer, not a facilitator.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 19:18:54
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 6 2008, 04:53 PM) [snapback]415051[/snapback]
Are you sure you're the Doc and not the mental patient ? blink.gif

Isn't it possible to be both at one and the same time-you know-like being first minister and professional loser gambler?
mortonjag 2008-03-06 19:27:52
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 6 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]415061[/snapback]
No its not. blink.gif

For someone who is hardly capable of constructing a sentence of English, you've become very fussy my lad.

Shall we use the term 'inverted commas' instead? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-06 19:40:29
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 6 2008, 04:29 PM) [snapback]415045[/snapback]
Sorry MortonJag I thought this was a debate where you gave your opinion and then backed it up. Please point out these pertinent questions I REPEATEDLY evade and I will be happy to point out where I have answered them.

I have repeatedly asked you and your ilk what you would do in a situation where one of your loved ones had been brutally murdered in circumstances where no doubt of proof existed.

I suspect you'll churn out the usual tripe about not being in a fit state of mind to make decisions where personally involved, but you'll STILL have views. Will they be the same as those you THINK you currently hold?

Others have pointed out more forcefully than I, that we now live in a perpetrator friendly society where the victim is frequently ignored and ultimately forgotten.

One of the reasons for that is a superabundance of wishy washy bureaucrats who have cut their teeth on being 'PC' and toeing the party line.

As far as I am concerned, when lawmakers fail to protect the general good of society they become defunct.

Capital punishment should be re-introduced for certain crimes, and the sooner the better

The least of those may be disputing the wisdom of Mortonjag..
mortonjag 2008-03-06 19:41:33
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 6 2008, 07:31 PM) [snapback]415098[/snapback]
Yes, we shall try the correct term today.
Parenthesis - such as the use of two dashes to seperate additional information - is contained in this sentence.
You learn something new every day. smile.gif

You really ARE takin' the piss Son-admit it! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-06 19:44:50
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 6 2008, 04:50 PM) [snapback]415050[/snapback]
Was tongue in check but maybe a little out of order. Apologies if it was taken the wrong way.

From what you say though, do you think there is a place for euthanasia, and could you have carried out such an act when you were still practising, considering that everything you've trained for is to make people better. Does that not make you a bit of a hypocrite?

From my point of view, had I spent a lot of my time on helping someone over many years for example, I don't think I could personally "assist" that person to end their life, such would be my connection to that person, be that relative or patient. I do, however, see where such an act would be in the best interests of the people involved.

I have absolutely not a shred of doubt that in certain circumstances I would help a loved one to 'slip away'.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 19:47:37
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 6 2008, 05:35 PM) [snapback]415063[/snapback]
It is.

Really-then your perception of 'euthanasia' and mine must differ.

I prefer the medical definition of assisted suicide.

BTW I'm here to help! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-06 19:51:00
QUOTE(standman @ Mar 6 2008, 06:45 PM) [snapback]415075[/snapback]
It's on BBC1 Scotland at eight o'clock

So this forum will die a death for two hours-always happens and then the 'we hate the OF' brigade re-appear as if they'd just been a bit constipated and had to queue at the lavvy.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 19:53:33
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 6 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]415121[/snapback]
Then in the eyes of the law you would be a murderer, who you yourself think should be executed. laugh.gif

Sometimes your simplicity concerns me,or do I misjudge, and you are indeed admitting that the law is frequently an ass?
mortonjag 2008-03-06 20:04:44
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 6 2008, 07:50 PM) [snapback]415126[/snapback]
It's not my or even your perception that counts MJ, it's the law of that land! laugh.gif

If you deliberately end someone's life, even at their request, then you're a murderer.

Then I will tell you without fear of contradiction that murder is being committed day and daily in our homes and hospital wards by well meaning professionals to whose judgement the final and peaceful passage from life to death is entrusted by this ubiquitous 'LAW of the LAND', the very mention of which seems to whip you into a frenzy.

Fortunately, in real life, we still have practical ways of circumventing tomes of useless medico-legal faeces.

And Monsieur CHC, rest assured that if you are on your death bed, have had more than you can take, and simply want to say 'goodbye' as you slip from agony into eternity, as a dedicated clinician, I will fight off that 'Law of the Land' and rely on MY BETTER JUDGEMENT.

Thank you.

Amen.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 20:08:22
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 6 2008, 07:54 PM) [snapback]415133[/snapback]
Superb book BTW.

If you manage to make it to the end you'll be suprised see what his opinions on capital punishment were after he retired. wink.gif

Sold plenty of books didn't it the fly old bugger!
mortonjag 2008-03-06 20:12:11 People who witter on about the Novels they are reading, upset me.

Life is out there-go and find out-then write an interesting autobiography.

Mine comes out next week-it's entitled Loser's Winner. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-06 20:20:48
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 6 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]415153[/snapback]
Murderer! mad.gif

The interpretation of the Hippocratic Oath-and specifically that part where we swear 'not to strive officiously to keep alive' is clearly open to interpretation.

I can see that your mind is possibly too restricted to encompass the inherent complexities of pain relief versus prolonged agony.

Call me a murderer if you wish-I am only one of thousands of dedicated health professionals who always put the patients desires and comfort in his final hours miles ahead of any red tape. GOD FORBID that clowns like you should ever have to make such decisions. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-06 20:22:48
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 6 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]415153[/snapback]
Murderer! mad.gif

And in any case, when I'm on my deathbed you'll be long deid. tongue.gif

I do hope for your sake you are correct my friend-I have seen healthy young men dead in a matter of months-succumbing to rampant neoplasia. Do say your prayers tonight.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 20:28:52
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 6 2008, 08:14 PM) [snapback]415158[/snapback]
i would never trust a man who doesn't read. vindicated again

I have read the Holy Bible many times

I spend much time also engrossed in 'non fiction' and can, for example, do useful things like building kitchens, lighting barbecues first time, and sound proofing the wall between my bedroom and the neighbours.

Live, and let live though-I once struggled through Fanny Hill, and daffs have been off menu ever since.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 20:36:27
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 6 2008, 08:25 PM) [snapback]415162[/snapback]
MJ, I don't make the laws, I only observe them. rolleyes.gif

It is the lawmakers of the land who have decided that if you kill someone to relieve their suffering you're a murderer, not me.

You are a silly old goat, aren't you. tongue.gif

So you disagree with them!

Indeed they are often silly old goats, and as is common knowledge ill conceived and unworkable laws are inevitably broken regularly and with impunity.

It is, nevertheless, somewhat emotive to describe euthanasia as MURDER-indeed the implicit concurrence of the 'victim' undoubtedly raises serious questions as to the accuracy of the term, given that suicide is no longer a 'crime'.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 20:41:33
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 6 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]415154[/snapback]
So what you're saying is you asked the question, got an answer, the answer disagrees with your own views and therefore and holds no water?

Welcome to the world of MortonJag.

I don't know if those views would be the same and, touch wood, I aint gonna find out. I'd like to think I'd be above wanting someone killed however.

I totally empathise with that comment-and indeed welcome to the world of Mortonjag-when I was your age I guess I lived in a kind of idealistic bubble too. I don't in any way disrespect you for it. You have the advantages of youth and a life ahead of you. I have my experiences to pass on-nobody is obliged to listen!
mortonjag 2008-03-06 20:52:32
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 6 2008, 08:41 PM) [snapback]415167[/snapback]
How is pointing out the law of the land 'emotive'? laugh.gif

You silly old sausage.

Sorry for the delay-I was doing a jobby.

You were not 'pointing out the law of the land'-you were describing euthanasia as 'MURDER'.

That's a bit like calling that pathetic little fellow I just saw off to the seaside a HUMUNGOUS KEECH.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 20:57:51
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 6 2008, 08:43 PM) [snapback]415170[/snapback]
Oh don't you worry about that MJ, I can assure you that nobody does. tongue.gif

Something strangely incongruous there my friend-or have I just been fooling myself that you hang on my every word.

You just stick with old Mortonjag and you'll not go far wrong.

Today I discovered how to make tomato sauce from apples-would you like the recipe?
mortonjag 2008-03-06 21:11:16
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 6 2008, 08:58 PM) [snapback]415177[/snapback]
Once again MJ, it's not me that's categorised euthanasia as murder, it's the lawmakers. rolleyes.gif

I'll try and make this as simple as possible as you're clearly having difficulties here.....

If you deliberately end someone's life - even with their consent and agreement - then that is murder.

Clear cut - no ifs, no buts. End of. That's not CHC's definition, it's the law.

OK auld yin, you got that now? rolleyes.gif

Ha-and that's exactly where you and the law are asses. If my loved one has only access to his final fatal dose via me, but that is the only part I play in his suicide-the ultimate decision ALWAYS having rested with him, have I been party to an act of euthanasia, or MURDER, as you prefer to describe assisted suicide?
What if we did the pills-eeny meeny manny mo-and he popped the 'fatal' one? Murder or suicide?

The problem with any 'tramcar diagnosis wallah' like yourself is that you haven't a clue about the complexities of pharmacology-of the fine balance that is frequently maintained between death and a miserable but endurable existence through the skills of oncology practitioners.

When one of those devoted people agrees with his patient that enough is enough, the law's definition of their mutual decision is thoroughly worthy of contempt.

mortonjag 2008-03-06 21:13:48
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 6 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]415179[/snapback]
Aw, I'm MJ's friend.

Shucks.

Like diarrhoea, it was a very loose term.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 21:18:48
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 6 2008, 08:42 PM) [snapback]415169[/snapback]
One's concerned about ones fuddgy wuddgy shaped fudge packer!

Nothing to cause concern-fudge packers come in an unbelievable variety of shapes and sizes-the secret's in the packing, not in the package!
mortonjag 2008-03-06 21:26:40
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 6 2008, 09:14 PM) [snapback]415186[/snapback]
That may or may not be true MJ, but that's immaterial.

As I said at the beginning if we all obeyed the laws we liked and ignored the ones we don't, then we'd have anarchy.

In which case we appear to have anarchy as I type, or have I missed something.

Laws are made to be broken, and daft laws are invariably broken.

When I was in my teens a dog licence cost 'seven and six', and revenue from that tax I'm led to believe amounted to fifteen bob annually!

Cut me a slice of this anarchy stuff if it means we can rid ourselves of the scum who parasite our once proud nation.

BIRCH-aye

DAMIEN'S LAW-aye

HANGING-aye.

What's wrong with anarchy-it MUST be better than what we've got!
mortonjag 2008-03-07 08:57:12 mortonjag 2008-03-07 09:05:29
QUOTE(franco @ Mar 6 2008, 10:40 PM) [snapback]415228[/snapback]
I really think that's nonsense, pure paranoia. At the risk of repeating myself, why would the party who consistently won the largest share of seats and the vote in Scotland give all that up? Why would they fear the snp 10 years ago? Labour won a majority of the constituency seats at last year's Scottish election (37/73). the snp are only in power BECAUSE of PR, not despite it! And i'm not sure just how long the snp have been supporters' of PR, but they certainly were back in 2002, so they pretty well got what they wanted.

.....and are doing their best to chuck it away before it's even established!
mortonjag 2008-03-07 09:07:54
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 7 2008, 12:31 AM) [snapback]415262[/snapback]
Questions for Mentaljag:
Why do you want to kill people who have killed other people? To stop people who have killed other people from killing more people? Do you think more people would think twice about killing other people if we killed people who killed other people, or do you think that we should kill people who have killed other people because it's wrong to kill other people?
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I'm confused. Should we let the people decide who to kill or not to kill?

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Well you COULD leave the decision to GOD Mr. Edwards, but in my experience he tends to work in mysterious ways his wonders to perform!
mortonjag 2008-03-07 09:08:49
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 7 2008, 12:42 AM) [snapback]415265[/snapback]
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Please ignore my last post your Omnipotent Lordship. I was only kidding, honest.

I normally ignore them all!
mortonjag 2008-03-07 09:11:47
QUOTE(CivicTypeR @ Mar 7 2008, 01:51 AM) [snapback]415278[/snapback]
I agree with this.......to a certain extent.

Did anyone see the daily record today with that " crazy " guy who was sentenced for racially agrivated murder of that wee boy kris donald? Going mad coz they took away his dvd player and play station 2? Sending someone to prison for life for something theyv done wrong is correct, why should they be allowed to hang around society living free for taking someone elses life. But at the same time wots the point in making prison like a 5star hotel all because of " human rights" Same with suicide bombers........get rid of them all.

This comment will probably cause major argument but - I know its wrong to murder people...obviously, but its something that happens sadly almost every week because the worlds a severely screwed up place, and UNFORTUNATELY their are worse things that you can do. So no for murdering someone i dont see why you should get the death penalty. But, ont eh other hand though when you hear of people like ian huntley and that rose west in the world ud give them electric chair for what theyv done.

Its a tough one to call and in all fairness as long as you yourself dont end up in the situation it its something you ought not to be too bothered about.

You're not suggesting it would be safe to exterminate that pair of angels are you. As sure as fate they are innocent as the day is long and have just been 'stitched up' because the cops were too lazy to investigate matters properly.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 09:17:03
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 7 2008, 08:34 AM) [snapback]415289[/snapback]
Not everybody, surely. A lot of people do, obviously, otherwise we wouldn't need police and courts. rolleyes.gif

But I think that the majority of people are decent and law-abiding.

The problems with MJs justifcation for ignoring laws he doesn't agree with is that if we all thought and acted like that then there would be chaos. Because what he thinks is a ridiculous law (illegalisation of Euthanasia) may not be a ridiculous law to someone else (e.g. a vulnerable elderly person). Similarly his neighbour may choose to ignore a law he thinks is perfectly sensible and right. And no doubt he's be on here like a shot bumping his gums about it. smile.gif

So if you deliberately ignore a law simply because you don't agree with it, then you lose any right to complain about anyone else breaking any other law.
I dunno mate, you'd have to ask your elected representative who actually makes the laws. I suspect he or she would say it's for you and me.

Would you like that to be your epitaph -it seems the ideal resume of a clueless life, and can be fitted quite neatly on that piece of cardboard over the pauper's grave? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-07 09:20:29
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 7 2008, 09:05 AM) [snapback]415305[/snapback]
No, I work alone...... wink.gif

I always fancied becoming a professional 'hit man' too.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 09:22:46
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 7 2008, 09:01 AM) [snapback]415301[/snapback]
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Indeed Forza-A F*CK UP of massive proportions by a little woman with a tiny brain and a thistle up her erse.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 09:30:17
QUOTE(tontric @ Mar 7 2008, 09:21 AM) [snapback]415312[/snapback]
Never mind skipping through the leagues...... It's looking increasingly likely that Gretna will not be playing in any league next year.

One can surely be excused for asking why the farce was ever allowed to happen. Who should ultimately be carrying the can for the damage MIleson's self indulgent idiocy has wreaked on Scottish football, and on the village of Gretna in particular.

Where are the faceless fat cats who rubber stamped applications without due consideration-or worse still felt the need for a little sweetener once in a while.

It is not only Mileson who should be brought to account.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 09:32:25
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Mar 6 2008, 10:55 PM) [snapback]415235[/snapback]
I do not condone this at all, however were Gretna to go into administration does this not leave the door open for another club (Partick for example) to buy them and therefore but their SPL status? Similar to Airdrie Utd buying over Clydebank

I believe Forfar have submitted a bid! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-07 09:34:02
QUOTE(thedonn @ Mar 6 2008, 11:09 PM) [snapback]415242[/snapback]
agree 100% shame on any ton fans wishing them to go bust...is just soor grapes on our part because they stuffed us for promotion. mellow.gif

Don't even say that in jest any more.

Gretna were ALWAYS a farce-it just took the majority of fools a bit longer to see through the sham.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 09:51:14
QUOTE(Yoda @ Mar 7 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]415319[/snapback]
following the disturbing revelations yesterday by Mortonjag that he has trained Fing to dispatch him in the event of being unable to conduct the act himself, I was awoken by a horrible ghastly nightmare around 2 o'clock this morning.

Johnny Vegas was indeed nail gunned to the table by his little knitted friend whilst enjoying a cup of PG tips.

Vader was also woken by my shouts of "No don't do it!" whilst my mind played tricks on me as the monkey smiled and ended Mr Vegas career.

I now feel out of sorts, through trauma and lack of sleep.

IT'S ALL MORTONJAGS FAULT!!!!! ohmy.gif

There, there Yoda---it was only a dream-Fing has bigger fish to fry than wadlling beer barrels-he's currently taping a long piece of hair to his turnip-a bit like a pony tail and muttering something about a bloody cushioning effect.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 10:28:02
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 7 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]415323[/snapback]
bollox ! If that's the case why are they riding high in the polls then ?

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What's your favourite fairy story Spurtle?

Have you heard the one about Little Nickerless, the girl who thought she could rule the world for ever, -and then that one about Bawheid and the magic Penny machine-those are just two of the current offerings from the Grimm reapers.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 10:41:28
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 7 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]415324[/snapback]
Gordon Brown is doing the same thing in England. Why no criticism there ?

Nearly everyone I know works shifts. You lot don't want to work an extra 2 and a half hours a week !

And may I say, those practicise's in Scotland will get an extra £19k for doing it. Those in England won't !

So fcuk up !

Lazy BASSA's !!

Time you went out and met some REAL people Spurtle. This issue doesn't affect me directly as I'm happily retired. You are welcome to attempt to discredit the Medical Profession, but you'll NEVER do it as well as I can AND DO.

There's a hell of a lot wrong with the current service provided by G.P.s. Much, but not all of that is a direct result of political meddling. A once genuinely caring profession is caring less and less as it is increasingly told how to do its job by faceless bureaucrats-THAT IS A FACT, as is the total MYTH of 'lazy' G.P.s

Sturgeon's made a complete arse of herself on this one, but it's becoming rapidly obvious that this new party of power cares not a jot about Scotland and true Scottish issues-a shower of sickeningly self righteous pragmatists who simply jumped on the bandwagon of years of labour incompetence, and are rapidly proving EVEN MORE INEPT!!


This is indeed a sad day for Scotland.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 10:44:30
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 7 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]415326[/snapback]
Why is it doctors are considered different from everyone else when it comes to working weekends and nights? Surely that is a time were more people would consider going to the docters due to work, sure some would argue if you are ill you shouldn't be at work anyway but that is not always possible, especially for those on lower earning/less skilled jobs who could be easily replaced.

It is common knowledge that when my mates are doing the Amazon work at Christmas they always seem to come down with some sort of illness as it just spreads in the building as everyone's afraid to take time off and risk losing their job/not being kept on. The availability of a docters surgery outwith normal working hours should surely be considered a good thing for everybody!

They are being extra pay to carry out this service, so I ask you jag...what is so bad about it? Are doctors too good to work into the evenings or work on a Saturday or Sunday. Don't doctors go on call anyway? Surely this could be considered better than being on call?

The NHS provides a 24/7 service Puggs, and determination of priority is thankfully delegated to folk with a little more perception of life's realities than you.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 10:47:09
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 7 2008, 10:41 AM) [snapback]415330[/snapback]
Why don't you answer the question Doc Doom ? Salmond is the most popular leader by a large margin in Scotland, by various polls.
And the SNP are riding high also. If the opposition parties feel as if the could oust the SNP why didn't they call Salmond's bluff when he offered to resign ?
Would the opposition Parties lose more seats if an election was called right now ? I wonder....... ???

It's not difficult to answer your silly wee question by reminding you that Labour topped the polls in Scotland for decades on end.

Such is the value of polls!
mortonjag 2008-03-07 11:08:54
QUOTE(franco @ Mar 7 2008, 10:41 AM) [snapback]415329[/snapback]
MJ, can you spell out what the problem is here? Why would safety be compromised, and why will the public not get access to evening and weekend appointments, why will it not deliver comprehensive care to patients during the day? None of the statements here are supported (in the article) so it would be interesting to know why extra hours won't improve care.

It's simply a matter of common sense franco-there is a capped budget and a limited skill base. That inevitably means that resources have to be prioritised-not expanded!!!

One of the biggest problems is the public perception of 'need', and more specifically of 'urgency'. It seems that folk will camp outside a store for days in freezing weather just to get to that 'Freebie' suite first, but expect to be able to toddle into the lazy G.P.s surgery at one in the morning for a repeat of the BP check which was normal the week before!!!

Sturgeon has missed one of the most crucial aspects of all labour disputes-the right to withdraw services. It's not common knowledge, but we were SO near that when Clarke imposed his new 'contract' in 1990.

She is an extremely foolish and ill advised young woman, and clearly not suited for the post of Health Minister-not even in a Mickey Mouse government.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 11:10:55
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 7 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]415334[/snapback]
Aye but come on. It is easy for you to say this from your side of the fence. If someone has the sniffles you honestly think they will go to a hospital? Or phone NHS 24, who I wouldn't trust to help me setting the VCR? A doctors surgery provides a great service to a community, and should be available to all.

If your lot cannot be ersed working an extra 2 and a half hours a week then your priorities are very much in the wrong place.

Someone with 'the sniffles' who can't deal with such trivia by himself is surely symptomatic of EXACTLY the problem in today's NHS.

WAKE UP PUGGS! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-07 11:20:32
QUOTE(otter @ Mar 7 2008, 11:00 AM) [snapback]415336[/snapback]
GPs said working outside office hours would jeopardise patient and GP safety and limit the service available because support services would be closed.

That’s a bit of misdirection there as I can count on the one hand the number of "same day" appointments I've had when I've been referred to "support services". Normally I have to wait on an appointment card coming from the hospital.

The safety to doctors and patients bit I would agree with.

Phil.

The future's bright.....

Phil-you've highlighted the real problem. Everybody sees the picture from his individual take on the NHS.

The fact is that it's far from ideal, but IS still staffed by well trained individuals who genuinely care for patients. The ability to deliver that care APPROPRIATELY has been progressively eroded by meddling politicians, and Sturgeon's latest gaffe is a further example of a 'Nobody'-for in NHS terms that's EXACTLY WHAT SHE IS-telling the nation what's best for it.

Hell mend her-I REALLY mean this when I say I'd love her to suffer as a result of her own stupidity, and I can think of several true to life scenarios where that might happen as doctors now have to adjust working practices yet again just to gain Bawheid's party four or five imaginary extra votes.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 11:25:46
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 7 2008, 12:49 AM) [snapback]415267[/snapback]
Nowt at all, as long as your not one of the OF. tongue.gif

Which one Mr Edwards?
mortonjag 2008-03-07 14:53:51
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 7 2008, 11:13 AM) [snapback]415340[/snapback]
One interesting part of this debate is the amount of private work GP's carry out. I know for a fact the amounts some make and it is startling.

GPs contract to the health service HT-provided they fulfil their obligations they are free to do private work also.

I'd be most interested to see you produce your figures mind you. I've never been in the slightest impressed by G.P.s private earnings, especially when compared with-for example- those of Hospital Consultants!

I'd suggest that this debate will remain healthier if we confine ourselves to fact rather than arguing the relative worth of G.P.s

The fact being that Sturgeon has IMPOSED a financially and socially unattractive package on an overworked and undervalued profession, for no other reason than what SHE sees as political expediency.

I would welcome honesty from any political party on the NHS. I have for many years pointed out glaring deficiencies in Primary Care services, and lobbied for a Salaried G.P. service. I wondered briefly if our all new NHS could be dealt some overdue surgery by the new faces.

All I have is BITTER disappointment in a mere child in politics who clearly hasn't an earthly clue about basic housekeeping, let alone running a Health Service. The chickens will come home to roost-mark my words.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 14:56:46
QUOTE(franco @ Mar 7 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]415343[/snapback]
Common sense surely says that working extra hours creates extra resources, extra appointments etc? Is the issue that there is no extra budget to administor more prescriptions or hospital places generated from the extra appointments? Or are you saying that really the money should be getting spent on education of the public so that GP's time is not being wasted on trivial matters (which i have no doubt happens). Why is there a safety issue, is it because there are no funds to provide reception staff or something along these lines?

franco-you sound genuinely interested in this issue, and at least have the honesty to admit that there's much you don't understand. I can't answer your questions in a couple of sentences, but will be delighted to give a full understanding of what's going on if you care to p.m. me.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 15:07:02
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 7 2008, 01:21 PM) [snapback]415363[/snapback]
All I know is that my doctor's practice has about four GPs, two of them (the senior ones) work about two days a week and the place is always full of locums. I can't get an appointment for love or money and I cannot believe that given they are receiving extra cash and the rest of the world has woken up to flexible working and service provision, perhaps it's about time GPs did the same. NHS 24 was brought in in part because GPs didn't want to serve the out of hours appointments. Home visits get rarer and rarer.

Just to pick up on that old chestnut Ratarse-is that a BAD thing? It's well accepted that you can see five or six patients in surgery in the average time taken to complete a home visit. It is also widely accepted that the majority of home visits are completely unjustified. This issue is all about lazy and greedy people still wanting their arses wiped by a skint but all providing NHS, and about a stupid young wannabe politician selling her credibility for a few imaginary votes.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 15:09:04
QUOTE(ayrstorm @ Mar 7 2008, 01:47 PM) [snapback]415366[/snapback]
my dentist can provide an NHS appointment at 8am
also one day in the week he can provide an NHS appointment after 6pm

so why is it so hard for a doctor's surgery to provide the same level of service as a minimum ans such a fuss being made about it?

You are an extremely foolish man to even introduce the concept of dentistry and the NHS in one sentence.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 15:11:07
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Mar 7 2008, 01:53 PM) [snapback]415367[/snapback]
I must agree MJ that the situation could have been handled better. And you're right, there is always the final straw that Doctors can withdraw their services. For me though that is also at the core of the argument. Services.

The NHS is a service industry and does need to react to it's clients requirements. And as with the rest of us this needs to be more in tune with a 24/7 mindset - I'm not saying that every doc should be available 24/7, but evening and weekend practises should be provided (even if that means you have to cancel a few rounds of golf every year! tongue.gif ). Under the agreement Scottish GP surgeries will get an extra allowance to provide limited 'out of hours' services, now that seems perfectly fair especially when you consider other GPs are getting diddly squat out of effectively the same agreement. So in many respects I don't see the problem, you just have to intelligently plan resources.

Take my GP or even my cardiologist, they both spread their 'opening' hours through the week including a couple of evening sessions. Perfectively acceptable to me, as it gives me the opportunity to attend an open surgery twice a week or during the more regular day surgeries if I really feel bad. And if it is urgent I can always attend A&E or call an ambulance. It also gives then a more 'normal' working week.

However all this needs to done as part of an intelligent review of NHS service levels to try and bring this crumbling monolith into the 21st century. That should include the role of all doctors, who should be deferred to when it comes to any medical related issue, but not necessarily any organisational issues.

ScotinBelgie

Some sensible points there Robert-the only way ahead is to include the service providers at all stages of negotiation.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 15:37:34
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 7 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]415368[/snapback]
This thread is more about MJ's pathological hatred of the SNP than anything else.

My father was a GP in Greenock from 1949 until he retired. He worked nights and weekends, evening surgeries most nights, no deputising services then.

When the new contracts were negotiated, doctors income increased a lot (and they were hardly ill-paid) and they basically went to a 9-5 job. Now they are getting paid even more to provide a decent service - and despite the attitude of many doctors that they are god-like figures, a cut above everyone else, they are simply providing a service for which they get paid. Everyone else works at times to suit their clients, so why not doctors? If you dn't like the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Sorry Ernie, I (unusually on this board I have to say!) often agree with you but not on this one. Some adjustments needed maybe but doctors should never have nbeen allowed to get the deal that meant as an example people in Dumfries having to take sick children on buses up to the hospital to see an out of hours doctor. That is simply a poor service, although in line with the destruction of service levels that has happened over the last 20 or 30 years.

Firstly Sir Alastair, I'd like to comment on your father's working situation. In terms of having to 'be available' the Doctors Cameron of Scottish history indeed could argue that they put in very long hours. It's interesting to note, however, that even your father had no experience of General Practice OUTSIDE the NHS, during a time where there was mutual respect between doctor and patient, and practitioners had yet to become the state funded Sugar Daddies we've all come to resent the minute the candy supply is restricted.

Now to some facts which you clearly fail to understand.

Commercial deputising services were not available in Scotland until the early to mid seventies-and even then, only in the large conurbations. It is a sure measure of your unadulterated ignorance of this issue on a national scale, that you can talk of 'G.P's basically doing a 9-5 job'. Tell that to any single handed G.P. in the outer Isles-you being such a 'Nat'-I'd have imagined you'd know more of those things. rolleyes.gif

You also propagate this myth that everybody works 24/7 to provide a service-shame on you. How much did you pay last time you called a plumber out at three in the morning on 31st December? When did you last wearily flog your donkey and cartload of engineering equipment over to wee Mrs McClumpha's house at 5 a.m., only to discover the problem had fixed itself? laugh.gif Oh-and you wouldn't have dreamed of billing her-would you?

As I've commented to franco I'm more than happy to exchange p.m.s on this topic, as it's far too complex to summarise in a couple of posts. Most G.P.s for example were totally against the inception of NHS 24 at a time when they had a reasonably effective rota system in place. You quite correctly indicate that the idea was a total disaster-A POLITICAL ONE-Alibi. NOT what G.Ps wanted.

I agree with many of the criticisms of the system, but am not prepared to see blame laid anywhere other than appropriately.

Finally-for 'pathological hatred'of the SNP please substitute 'bitter disappointment in'. Unlike yourself I have no political axe to grind-I had genuinely hoped for MUCH better-and I STILL DO, but Rome was not built in a day.

Time for Bawheid et Al to get over the toddling stage right now instead of running marathons.

mortonjag 2008-03-07 16:00:01
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 7 2008, 03:50 PM) [snapback]415390[/snapback]
Waffle..waffle..waffle...JUST WORK THE EXTRA 2/12 HOURS !!!

Not waffle Spurtle-just a tiny few grains of truth. I know the full story, Alibi has limited personal perception, and you just haven't 'a scooby'.

Now away and get your free cod liver oil and orange juice, and you'll grow up into a big strong boy who won't have to pester the NHS.

Lloyd George's vision of State health was that of a misguided fool. Sturgeon has yet to aspire to that status, it would appear.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 16:07:57
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 7 2008, 11:53 AM) [snapback]415352[/snapback]
They didn't on the lead up to the election. and they lost !

So you seem to be in the minority. The SNP are doing well and Salmond is as popular as ever laugh.gif

Salmond will very rapidly be off menu when the truth dawns-you can fool most of the people some of the time etc!

I would dearly love to see an effective independent Scotland-I genuinely mean that-I just sense that this shower of power by default are already doing more damage than good.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 16:11:14
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 7 2008, 04:01 PM) [snapback]415394[/snapback]
The dives like a plane bit was the reference to being Japanese (Kamikaze rolleyes.gif ). The Chow Mein was in with the original line being sung by the Celtic fans which I agree is a tad more Chinese than Nippon. Anyway eats raw fish doesn't really go with much other than "and his haircut's pish".

He eats sushi and Boruc causes stooshie
mortonjag 2008-03-07 16:14:23
QUOTE(Loveless @ Mar 7 2008, 04:10 PM) [snapback]415399[/snapback]
Me.

Eh-yer not doin' the tooth fairy stuff already are you-just wait 'til wee Nickerless discovers all the dark secrets of the dentist chair and you'll be workin' a ninety hour week before overtime! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-07 16:16:40
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 7 2008, 04:09 PM) [snapback]415398[/snapback]
Did you there is a World Porridge Cooking Contest known as "The Golden Spurtle" ?

Yes- I have won it for the last three years in succession.

Did you know that 'atheroma' means porridge?

I christened you 'Spurtle' because of your inveterate capacity for mindless stirring.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 16:19:18
QUOTE(Loveless @ Mar 7 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]415404[/snapback]
Tell me about it.

Thankfully dentists have a much bigger private sector than doctors to work in at the moment.

Honesty will get you everywhere!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-07 16:23:40
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 7 2008, 04:15 PM) [snapback]415402[/snapback]
After what the last lot done, and the other shower in Westminster both past and present. I have to say...you really are having a laff ??? ! blink.gif

Nope- I though it would be easy as well Spurtle, but they've marched in far too big for their size two bootees-a shower of bloody women led by a power crazed buffoon who gets his daily briefings from the Sporting Life.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 16:28:05
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 7 2008, 03:55 PM) [snapback]415391[/snapback]
As resident of said local, the simple answer is yes. Take the turn off for Kilmarnock / A77 (go past the Govan turnoff and double back at the new purpose built slip road on the Tradeston exit) Go up by the Mearns and take the South Orbital from Newton mearns over to EK. At the first roundabout at the old EK Hilton, go straight on through Stewartfield, right past my house and on to the expressway where Hamilton is but 5 minutes doon the road. Motorway and free flowing traffic all the way!!

That being the ten bedroom neo Victorian mansion with the Roller, Aston, and cayenne parked in the drive, and a huge sign on the wrought iron gates bearing the legend


CHEZ RATARSE! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-07 17:55:26
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 7 2008, 04:56 PM) [snapback]415428[/snapback]
Yes MJ, single handed GPs don't have deputising services in remote areas, agreed. However the main problem is that NHS24 is a disaster and the length of time you need to wait for an appointment now is shocking. And in engineering, while I personally try to avoid unsociable hours, it is common for site engineers in particular to work dawn till dusk to achieve project target dates. I've done overnighters which I didn't like one bit but it's part of the job.

The lasr renegotiation seems to have increased doctors' pay while at the same time letting them reduce their hours. Maybe time to claw that back a bit.

Bet you're glad you;re retired, Ernie!!

I am glad to be retired. I loved my job Alastair-I always gave 100% to my patients, and for the last portion of my working life I was actively involved in the provision of out of hours services for Greater Glasgow-and I MEAN actively-I worked four consecutive thirteen hour shifts every week, Friday to Monday inclusive, and still had time for other interests.

G.P.s are an easy target for all sorts of folk with gripes-indeed they are well paid professionals who often think over highly of themselves, but as a breed I assure you they are still a dedicated bunch, and it's a sad fact that people like Ms Sturgeon see fit to walk roughshod over their sensitivities.

Kenneth Clarke, who was vastly more experienced, almost 'blew it' for the Tories when he imposed the new contract in 1990. Industrial action in the shape of refusal to sign certificates for benefits was avoided by a whisker, and could have totally disrupted the economy.

As I've suggested to Robert, the only way ahead is by negotiation with the 'grass roots'. Much of the current unrest could have been avoided if reality had been faced. I sincerely believe that Ms Sturgeon has done a disservice to the electorate-I predict that in REAL TERMS the service being provided will be no better, and possibly worse than before. G.P.s are clever c*nts you know, and those politicians just adore their little pieces of paper with all the correct boxes ticked.

I am of the opinion that General Practice-in terms of a vital service to patients from doctors is in a worse state today than it was almost twenty years ago. It's easy to make a big show of service provision-just look at any glossy TV advert from a major clearing bank-but G.P.s have been forced away from direct patient contact more and more as they've had to jump through endless bureaucratic hoops-in order that successive governments can produce paperwork to PROVE a failing system is working.

It's sickening Alastair, and I just wish people had more perception of reality instead of being led by the nose.

One final point-NHS 24 was simply cheap labour-trying to get nurses to do a job they were not trained for. It backfired as it was always going to. I don't hate the SNP -just politicians in general-they make me Shipmanesque---



NEXT!
mortonjag 2008-03-07 18:07:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 7 2008, 05:37 PM) [snapback]415451[/snapback]
I've got the best by far I'll bet. I design and project manage social housing for poor unwitting souls in Glasgow. My latest project is a care facility for the visually impaired. Today I cunningly placed a column in the middle of the common room. It'll be good entertainment value for the staff don't you think?
(before anyone calls social work, I actually told the Structural Engineer where to stick his column)

Really Mr Edwards- including the anatomical blueprint?
mortonjag 2008-03-07 18:08:06
QUOTE(Tooth & Nail @ Mar 7 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]415460[/snapback]
Its such a stressful job tho. I really enjoy it, didn't ever imagine I would end up working in the dentist but there u go biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

bet it must sometimes be like pullin' teeth!



BOOM F*CKIN' BOOM
mortonjag 2008-03-07 18:13:08
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 7 2008, 05:16 PM) [snapback]415445[/snapback]
Take the M8 to Kinning Park, double back on yourself on the M77, M77 to EK turn-off then straight through the s***hole that is Stewartfield and follow the signs for Hamilton. It'll take you an hour at the very most unless you drive like an old woman.

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mortonjag 2008-03-07 18:19:13
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 7 2008, 05:58 PM) [snapback]415458[/snapback]
How do Gretna owe Alibi money?

And was he on a rolling 5-year contract?

He provided his services in good faith-he has been cheated and I'm led to believe, lied to also.

Alibi will not be the only soul in the borders currently chasing Pony Tail for money. I can't help feeling the poor hard done to soul will be back in the safety of his tame hospital again very soon. This time he'll probably die for twenty minutes before producing another miraculous flush of life.


CREEP
mortonjag 2008-03-07 18:24:52
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 7 2008, 04:46 PM) [snapback]415421[/snapback]
mortonjag are you going

I really can hardly see the point Bryan. The Chairman is not daft when it suits him-he's currently trying to weld relations with the fans, and JM has gone. Most people have very short memories, and at the moment I'm only interested in avoiding relegation.

Now if he proposes a meeting in May-where he'll freely and openly discuss the clubs plans for next season, I'll be there.


HE WON'T.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 18:40:45
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 7 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]415488[/snapback]
Apart from at the Tesco fish department.
Beggars and choosers comes to mind. tongue.gif
I get paid £30 a week to go to school and get another £35 weekly for delivering 24 Teles per day.
It'll do for the moment.

I got 50p a week for my paper round-well ten bob to be precise.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 18:42:43
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 7 2008, 06:33 PM) [snapback]415484[/snapback]
A wee solution to this, why not get enthusiastic junior doctors to man the out-of-hours clinics and gain some valuable experience, and allow all the old b*****d GPs who think that its beneath their dignity to work after 5pm can f*** off back to the Mearns in their Saabs to watch Reporting Scotland.

Quacks the lot of them.

That sounds just perfect to me.

Have you 'phoned the nickerless one yet?
mortonjag 2008-03-07 18:45:11
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 7 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]415493[/snapback]
Welcome to socialism. smile.gif
Was that decent back in the day?

It was the going rate and didn't change for years. Bear in mind that when the new Mini was manufactured it only cost about five hundred quid.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 18:50:17
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 7 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]415489[/snapback]
Here's a chance to direct your opinions face to face and you're knocking it back.....whatever happened to having courage in your convictions? rolleyes.gif

Would you care to specify exactly where you feel I have lost 'the courage of my convictions'?

I have stated why I feel this early meeting is not the time to cause unrest,but steps HAVE been taken to remedy the most glaring problem.

I will be extremely interested to hear the club's plans after we secure our first division status.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 18:51:34
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 7 2008, 06:43 PM) [snapback]415494[/snapback]
s***ebag

With posters like you my bag will always be overflowing.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 18:53:21
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Mar 7 2008, 06:24 PM) [snapback]415478[/snapback]
Wow, it's just out of order to wish harm upon the guy.

DID I ???
mortonjag 2008-03-07 18:55:43
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 7 2008, 06:43 PM) [snapback]415495[/snapback]
Getting a bit personal there, MJ.

Nothing more personal than being unable to feed your weans because some rich b*****d won't pay bills.

My attitude to that man has been constant from day one-he has much to answer for.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 19:10:29
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 7 2008, 06:52 PM) [snapback]415503[/snapback]
Not having the nuts to translate the endless diatribe you spout on here to Dougie Rae's face smacks of lacking courage in your convictions.

What do I know though, eh? rolleyes.gif

Don't be a clown-Shoogly has messengers and knows pretty well what's being said on this rag.

I have the sense and experience not to disrupt any good that's currently being done at the club-as I stated avoiding relegation is a priority.

Why is it that when I lay off Mr Rae in acknowledgement of his change in position I'm accused of 'lacking courage'. Choosing the wrong time and place to make a fuss is stupidity, not bravery.

Somehow I can't help feeling that the real truth is that some of our more deviant posters are missing my anti Shoogly diatribes-lacking, as they do the courage of their own convictions.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 19:16:45
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 7 2008, 06:56 PM) [snapback]415508[/snapback]
Who? This one:

Click Here
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No no-- you misunderstood me-I was referring to a Ms. Nickerless Surgeon of Holyrood or thereabouts-more likely thereabouts at this time of night I'd imagine-possibly checking that her state funded B.U.P.A. subscription's well up to date before her weekly visit to the private facial depilatory clinic.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 19:21:41
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 7 2008, 07:16 PM) [snapback]415513[/snapback]
Yet you constantly whinge about him not facing these issues to the fans. When the chance arises you suddenly think there are more important issues at hand

I fail to see how questioning Dougie on his need to splash cash on Paul McGowan, the lack of youth set up, the crap commercial side of the club or the dozens of other things you have against Dougie will, in any way, affect Davie Irons or the Morton players.

Because laying off Dougie Rae will only be temporary. You'll remain quiet until after this event and, as soon as it's over, you'll pick at certain answers, or lack of answers, Dougie gives at the event. You'll continue to bitch and moan and whine for another year until the next Q & A turns up and I look forward to your excuse for not attending that one.

Do you think it's advisable and in the club's best interest that I go to this meeting and rake up mud at a time when we appear to be pulling together?

I don't-I won't be there, and if you feel the job is worth doing at this juncture, be my guest.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 19:43:31
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 7 2008, 07:35 PM) [snapback]415518[/snapback]
I've not read this thread but I'm thinking it's probably chock-a-block full of self-indulgent s***e from MJ. Am I right? huh.gif

YES



Now f*ck off and give us NHS users peace, you slimy ship jumper.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 19:46:39
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 7 2008, 07:29 PM) [snapback]415516[/snapback]
I wont be in the country. So can't attend.

However the points you constantly bring up are surely more important than the current short term aims are they not? If they are is important as your post count suggests do you think it's advisable not to bring them up?

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..and folk like you lecture me about courage of convictions!

Not good enough my friend-not good enough by a long chalk. Where are your priorities? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-07 19:48:22
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Mar 7 2008, 07:43 PM) [snapback]415520[/snapback]
I agree with everything said here. I certainly won't be shedding any tears if they get thrown out of Scottish football. Some people think I'm mad when I say this, but I hate Gretna more than I hate St. Mirren.

Snap-the midden can't help being scum.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 19:54:53 They've had their day in the sun-I never imagined for a minute I could feel an ounce of pity for them but I strangely do.

Mind you I'd predict that there must still be at least three who believe the sun shines out of Mr Mileson's arse.

Sorry days for the bumpkins-you have my commiserations.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 19:59:51
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 7 2008, 07:52 PM) [snapback]415526[/snapback]
I do apologise if my being hundres of miles away stops me from attending. My priority is starting a new job in a new country. What's your excuse? Will you be sitting at home with the super glue mending that bottle that crashed?

However, unlike you, I haven't spent years going on and on about all these "problems" and wanting my chance to deliver these grumblings to Dougie. I'm out of the country and will be for eight months. What's your excuse for not attending?


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Enjoy the 'Big Hoose' and learn to behave yourself next time.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 20:04:29
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 7 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]415534[/snapback]
I see Prescriptions up to £7.10 mad.gif Naw hawd on....relax...phew ! it's only in England laugh.gif

That's right, the nasty SNP government are scrapping Prescription charges in Scotland tongue.gif

Simply because they haven't the wit to implement them fairly and properly. Prescription charges were always a widespread 'cheats' charter', with numerous inherent anomalies. I'm not sorry to see them go, but as with everything Spurtle, the loss of revenue will have to be made up from elsewhere.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 20:09:02
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 7 2008, 08:03 PM) [snapback]415537[/snapback]
you are a f***ing penis. dougie rae would kick your c*** in.

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mortonjag 2008-03-07 20:09:46
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 7 2008, 08:03 PM) [snapback]415538[/snapback]
I'm going to Jersey. The "big hoose" has been shut down. Not been watching the news? tongue.gif

Aye-right!
mortonjag 2008-03-07 20:16:40
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 7 2008, 08:06 PM) [snapback]415543[/snapback]
MJ it's been mere weeks since you last posted that DDF should step down for the good of the club, how can your priorities have changed that much that quickly?

My priority for several months has been to avoid relegation. We latterly seemed hell bent in that direction. Things have changed and I believe a period of relative stability is in the best interest of all who love the club.

My opinions on Mr Rae have not substantially changed.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 20:23:58
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 7 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]415549[/snapback]
How's the weather in Cloud Cuckoo Land?

Look at your thermometer you clot.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 20:25:36
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 7 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]415550[/snapback]
I've won a watch.

Is it a big hand and wee hand one-we don't want you getting confused with numbers.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 20:29:11
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 7 2008, 08:25 PM) [snapback]415557[/snapback]
Sorry DE, I beg to differ. If you support one of the bigot brothers then you're a bigot. End of.

Those who claim differently are like those who voted for apartheid and claimed not to be a racist.

Fraid I'm with Mr Edwards on this one-of course we're probably just a pair of old fuddy duddies who believe erroneously that things are not always either black or white.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 20:37:20
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 7 2008, 08:32 PM) [snapback]415564[/snapback]
If you support bigotry, you're a bigot. It's not rocket science auld yin, I'm sure even you can get yer auld heid round that. wink.gif

Put plainly and simply you believe that every OF supporter is a bigot.

That does not surprise me-you clearly have lived a very sheltered life where two and two always make four and doughnuts with holes are dough rings.

Ever thought about growing up, or is that a too daunting challenge?
mortonjag 2008-03-07 20:39:38
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 7 2008, 08:37 PM) [snapback]415572[/snapback]
Me

My bags are packed and I'm ready to go!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-07 20:44:45
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 7 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]415565[/snapback]
Correct, we don't control the revenue we raise in Taxes. We only get pocket money from Westminster.

Think about it Ernie -boy wink.gif

That is frankly a pathetic whine Spurtle-poor wee Bawheid on the overnight coach to Westminster to fill up his wee string bag with more pennies.

Please don't make an even bigger laughing stock of yourself by telling ME to think.

Little boy-here is your well earned pocket money-it is now yours and you may spend it exactly as you choose.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 20:46:36
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 7 2008, 08:39 PM) [snapback]415573[/snapback]
Is ageism the last resort of the witless?

Is disparagement of learning difficulty the last resort of the aged? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-07 20:56:04
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 7 2008, 08:43 PM) [snapback]415577[/snapback]
Yes.
If that means being like you, no.

It strikes me that anybody who baldly states that every OF fan is a 'bigot' displays an unhealthy level of intolerance, not to say ignorance.

I do not believe for one minute that my Hun son is any more of a bigot than my Tim daughter-both were born and bred in Glasgow-neither had a religious upbringing of any kind, and for different reasons they have chosen to support different Glasgow teams. I am not ashamed of either of them-much though I'd have preferred them to support Morton.

I'd not describe you as a bigot-more a PIGOT-don't ask me why-it just suits you to a tee.

There again---pig...ignorant.....idiot-aha!!!
mortonjag 2008-03-07 20:59:47
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Mar 7 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]415566[/snapback]
Indeed they do, you included. mad.gif

Would you care to expand Smiffy or is that beyond your wit?
mortonjag 2008-03-07 21:04:13
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 7 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]415584[/snapback]
MJ...... news just in.... OF fans are bigots.

Get over it.

Repeating yourself endlessly doesn't really add any weight to an initially stupid proposition.

Frankly it's no big deal what you think on the matter-many OF fans are not bigots-FACT.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 21:12:57
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Mar 7 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]415587[/snapback]
In general, OF fans are bigots.

On average, OF fans are less intelligent than those that support other teams.

True on both counts.

Equally it might be argued that most Scottish ex-pats living in Belgium would be incapable of causing a row in an empty house.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 21:20:05
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 7 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]415590[/snapback]
Where's the customer/patient in all this?

Who actually (and really) looks at care from the customer/patient point of view?

Why on earth do GP's not seek or ask their customers/patients what levels of service they actually want???

Name one other service industry where services are so atrociously managed that you cannot get access to the service when you need it and service is so bad that priorities are given to those 'who only want to pull a sickie'? i.e. you get 8 minutes

It's time for change - I suggest:

1. P&L accountability be removed from GP's
2. The service is completely overhauled to prevent the current 'can't see the wood for the trees!' approach to patient care and the patient placed at the centre of the new 'patient care' model
3. If you are an NHS funded GP in charge of an NHS funded practise - that's what you should be doing all the time - full stop
4. Drug users/Under 16 mother of 3's/ persistant 'two holidays a year and a car' back problems/monday morning 'sick notes' - should be sent to a new centralised health service
5. Doctors adopt a new we are here when you need us methodology - remember the laws of demand and supply
6. Encourage and train new Doctors in their droves and target children in their early teens on this
6. Doctors be measured on success and rewarded appropriately - with success being things like:-

Lowering the average level of patient cholesterol
Reducing the number of smokers in the practise
Pro actively targeting patients on the 'issues of the year/decade' e.g. testicular cancer

and so on and so on and so on

Let's face it - it's time for change and it's well known that people don't like change (at any level) - maybe the politicians aren't so wrong here - at least they are taking a 'working person's view on a solution' - unlike our GP's, let's not forget that GP's are providing a service here!

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You REALLY haven't a clue-have you? If I start on you I guess I'd never stop, but as I've said to others, feel free to p.m. if you want some 'coal face' information.

It gets bloody wearing listening to all you self appointed specialists-I'd just love to see you standing outside a field shouting instructions to an experienced ploughman! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-07 21:26:30
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 7 2008, 09:20 PM) [snapback]415602[/snapback]
Indeed they are - and like every other working person they should operate within the same framework as other working people - one which is dictated based on who they are 'providing a service too'

When was the last time there was significant change to GP patient care??

Jesus suffering Christ-they haven't stopped shifting the bloody goalposts for almost twenty years-no matter how hard genuine and caring doctors have tried to deliver the service FAIRLY and relative to true priority, they have been baulked by outside meddling.

What exactly is your agenda-if you are just ignorant of fact I can excuse you, but trouble making liars are despicable scum.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 21:30:06
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 7 2008, 09:14 PM) [snapback]415592[/snapback]
At least none of my kids are thick bigots.

Personally, I blame the parents.

You have offspring- laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-07 21:36:29
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 7 2008, 09:29 PM) [snapback]415607[/snapback]
I'm afraid I have no agenda - I only speak from bitter experience.

I'm looking inside from the outside - not pissing out from the inside

Would you care to share the bitter experience-comments like that are very emotive, and I've had one or two bitter experiences in the NHS too. Most people with 'bitter experiences' end up having an agenda, but you may be one of life's exceptional people.

I think what you're really saying is that you are indiscriminately pissing on the inside. If you wish I can assist you in directing your penis towards the appropriate recipients of your excrement.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 09:27:25
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 7 2008, 09:44 PM) [snapback]415618[/snapback]
analogy?

No thanks on the offer and looks like I must be one of lifes exceptional people.

Thank you-yet another who hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest. The offer remains open, along with personal medical advice from a vastly experienced, knowledgeable, and caring practitioner, should you find your current service provider unable to come up to your requisite standards.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 09:31:54
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 7 2008, 10:14 PM) [snapback]415632[/snapback]
Yeah, your probably right. I suppose the lure of the filthy lucre is probably too much..."I will follow that system of regimen which, according to my ability and judgment, I consider for the benefit of my patients, and abstain from whatever is deleterious and mischievous. "

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You STILL haven't produced the evidence HT-honestly I'm on tenterhooks.

Last time I checked, private General Practice was virtually non-existent in Scotland.

Perhaps you've been slightly confused, though I'm certain an informed chappie like you must know that G.P.s are self employed people.

Goodness gracious-self employed people making some money for THEMSELVES.
That surely must be the incarnation of evil! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-08 09:45:38
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 8 2008, 12:03 AM) [snapback]415674[/snapback]
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Touché wink.gif

Mr Edwards has achieved what Mortonjag cannot-a 'touche' from Herpes Coirot-Belgium's entry to this years' Mr. Mussel.

Can the little mollusc do it this time-g'on yershell.

Sonny boy! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-08 09:50:37
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 7 2008, 09:31 PM) [snapback]415610[/snapback]
Yes indeed MJ, and I'm proud they they are neither thick nor bigoted.

More than you can say, eh. wink.gif

That does not surprise me-even thickness and bigotry require elemental neuronal tissue.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 09:53:51
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 7 2008, 11:54 PM) [snapback]415666[/snapback]
No apologies required CHC. I fully understand the condition you suffer from. I hope you get better soon. laugh.gif

Don't be silly Mr Edwards-the poor lad ENJOYS his ill health-probably one of Ms. Sturgeon's disciples as he pushes the frailer aside in his orgasmic leap for the freebie 'big bottle' of pills! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-08 09:57:17
QUOTE(Loveless @ Mar 8 2008, 12:22 AM) [snapback]415686[/snapback]
Nothing wrong with being a bigot, as long as you're a Catholic bigot.

Nothing wrong with apartheid either, actually.

I must confess I'm more partial to the Proddy bigots-they have that certain-je ne sais quoi.


Apartheid-aye I've always advocated surgery for Siamese twins.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 10:02:36 Once worked in Shieldhall sewage plant-well it wasn't really work-just went through the motions.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 10:23:55
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Mar 7 2008, 10:29 PM) [snapback]415642[/snapback]
I have to agree with Naitch here, mj.

No matter how you dress it up you've the perfect chance to speak to Mr Rae face to face and air your concerns. That IS what these events are for, points being raised and questions asked, whether positive or negative.

My personal take is you're a bit embarassed at certain comments you've made ie. the continual reference to "Shoogly" and would rather remain out of the public eye.

I suppose I could be wrong.

I'm not in any way embarrassed by anything I've ever said about that old clown-and he's not changed and never will. He's well aware who I am, and equally well aware of the writings on this little rag.

I simply believe that avoiding relegation matters far more to me than any individual personality. At the moment the wittering old buffoon is playing it 'low key'-he's 'apologised' laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif to those who cannot see through waffle, and is taking full credit for Irons/Collins despite claiming he was devastated to lose JM.

It's perfectly simple Bob-if I'm going to put the boot into the old fud, I'll do it when he's down-it should have been done in February, and I'm damned sure I wouldn't have been the only one.

There is absolutely no point in turning up at the all new happy clappy Shoogly roadshow with a big frown on the coupon-the time is not right-there again if we ship fifteen goals in the next two matches-WHO KNOWS? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-08 10:39:49
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 8 2008, 02:31 AM) [snapback]415723[/snapback]
I assume the questions you wanted to ask on January the 20th are still relevant today. I don't think polite and probing questions will cause much unrest with the new management team or players, although they may fluster Douglas Rae.

I think everyone has gripes with the way Douglas Rae is running Morton but you have been on a one man mission to highlight them and continually go on about them on numerous posts on here. Referring to 'shoogly' and 'fudgy wudgys' on a regular basis - something it's very easy to do behind a keyboard.

As someone who's not inclined to ask a question at something like this myself I would never usually suggest that someone else should but the way you have championed the cause against Douglas Rae I think you lose all legitimacy if you don't ask the questions you have deemed so pertinent over the last year or so, especially for reasons such as: you are only focused on avoiding relegation or you dont want to cause unrest. Fair enough if you cant actually make it or that you are too shy.

It has nothing to do with being shy or running scared-as I've already stated Rae knows about the groundswell of opinion at any given time, and is well aware of the 'troublemakers'.

He deliberately and calculatedly postponed the scheduled Shoogly Show-the old fudd bottled it-he knows it, and you know it. The fans' patience had been stretched to breaking point and he knew he'd be in deep s***.

HE is the one who's changed the rules of the game-waited until the unthinking masses have calmed down before announcing his new 'I speak-you listen' spectacle.

Rae is the man who has NO respect for anybody except himself. Mortonjag is not daft enough to flutter into the spiders web of a stage managed ego trip.

I'm right behind the new management-they may prove useless, but they have my full support-I have no intention of rocking the boat for them in any way, until we've had time to make fair assessment.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 10:40:42
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 8 2008, 10:31 AM) [snapback]415758[/snapback]
Somebody's shat it laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-08 10:43:46
QUOTE(Lifelongfan @ Mar 8 2008, 03:00 AM) [snapback]415725[/snapback]
Wow you never cease to surprise me with your sarcasism!

Anyway. for what it's worth, I;ve still got to respond

You really are have to be one of the most conceited, attention seeking, witless (Yup you'te really not very funny at all, despite what you may think) and insulting persons that I've ever come across in my entire life - not to mention IGNORANT oh dear I've mentioned it again!

....and although I realise that you thrive and love it whem we, meagre mortals, rise to your bait and respond to your jibes and general nasty comments - I still couldn't rseist the temptation to do so and well, it makes me feel better just to let you know what I think of you, maybe I'm not alone with my thoughts!

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mortonjag 2008-03-08 10:51:29
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Mar 8 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]415735[/snapback]
I've never been to one but for those that have, is there a point to these gatherings. Do we actually get to hear things that either we don't already know, or an honest assessment of where we're doing things right or wrong?

Do folk actually question the top table, press for answers and get them, or is it a just lip service to the idea of genuine communication.

You've hit the nail right on the head. The only time the fans could ever make an impression at one of Shoogly's soirees is when they've had just about enough and are in 'lynch mob' mood.

That is why the scheduled show was postponed.

Rae has NO interest in what the true fan wants, and he always believes he knows best. It's a measure of the man's crass insensitivity that after a pathetic excuse for an apology, and the accumulation of a mere three point from six by the new management team he apparently never wanted in the first place, he now sees everything as back to 'fine and dandy'.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 10:59:19
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 8 2008, 10:46 AM) [snapback]415764[/snapback]
You made a name for yourself on here by ostensibly being one of the enlightened few who could see all the problems at the club, but now you're only willing to go if you have a mob at your back?

That's poor.

Really Nach0-'poor' or just plain 'sensible'.

I'd be more than happy to sit down with Mr Rae-just the two of us. I'd treat him with utmost courtesy, and have little doubt he'd return the compliment. I would not, however, expect him to 'hear' a single word I uttered.

Shoogly is a bully by nature-he's used to being the boss and getting his own way. Only when the horrific reality of our impending doom under JM suddenly dawned was he willing to concede an inch, but was still 'DEVASTATED' to let his puppet off the strings.

My message to you and my other detractors on this thread is perfectly simple. I have no respect for Douglas Rae except in that we are fellow humans.

He does not impress me, nor does he frighten me. I have always seen his meddlings with our club as those of a dyslexic little boy playing with a complicated computer game.

He probably means well.

In fact I believe he does.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 11:09:25
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 8 2008, 10:43 AM) [snapback]415763[/snapback]
Well, this is your opportunity to prove him wrong. To make it not an "I speak-you listen spectacle".

You moan on here constantly about 'Shoogly' then are presented with the oppotunity to publicly put your views to him and decide to not.

From here on in any argument you give on here aimed at Dougie is pointless, as you clearly are a keyboard assassin who runs scared when the real life opportunity comes up! dry.gif

Grow up Puggs-there is no more public a way of airing my views than on this forum-FFS EVERYBODY seems to know what they are.

You and the other clowns just want a wee bit of drama-I'm more than happy to meet Rae on anything resembling a level playing field, and I am sincere when I suggest that a period of calm is in order while the new management beds in.

Seems to me there are a few sad c*nts on here suffering withdrawal symptoms from MJ not firing the cannonballs for them.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 11:10:47
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 8 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]415775[/snapback]
what a f***ing loser.



Rich
mortonjag 2008-03-08 11:12:00
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 8 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]415778[/snapback]
That's a bit of a personal attack there, so unlike you MJ.

Nothing of the sort-merely observations. I have been wrong on occasion.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 11:16:31
QUOTE(Toby @ Mar 8 2008, 10:48 AM) [snapback]415765[/snapback]
Mortonjag,

Come on, this is ridiculous. I decided a while ago that I'll not attend anything organised by Morton except a game whilst Raemanov's in charge, but now this has been announced I feel I have to attend. I, like yourself am one of his biggest critics, and by not attending, I'd be giving him the easy ride he's expecting. So, you might be unpopular if you pose a few questions that the happy clappers feel is rocking the boat, so what? It's never bothered you on the board.

I think I'd struggle to sit in the same room as him but it's the sacrafice you have to make if you want things sorted. It's the first real opportunity you have to put him on the spot. He may very well have his minions (AB?) going back reading this "rag", but whilst questions aren't being directly put to him he has no need to answer them.

Show the courage to stand by what you say on the board, you're looking like the epitomy of a keyboard hard man.

Toby-I guess you are correct in principle. Do you honestly believe that I, you, or anybody else will get a genuine hearing? It's a long round trip on a bitter winter's evening just to be ignored or talked down. OK for the punters who can slope off early to the local if they end up bored to tears after half an hour. Anyway-convince me! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-08 11:19:37
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 8 2008, 11:16 AM) [snapback]415791[/snapback]
So we are all clowns now?

I don't go to the Q and As, they are not my cup of tea so thinking I want some sick kick out of two old men getting into a heated argument is quite mistaken.

And I think airing your views in a public meeting, and not behind a message board sock-puppet, straight to the person the majority of your views are about would do a lot more than sitting on here, day after day, typing away like a maniac repeating the same bile over and over again.

At the end of the day, we have all saw you for what you are. All words and no action, a keyboard hard man. If you had DDFR's mobile number you would be the kind of person who would phone him up shouting while withholding your own number! It's pathetic really!

If myself, and the rest of the 'clowns' on this 'rag' (you sound like him more and more wink.gif) are wrong and you are right then I would rather be wrong, but somehow I don't think the majority of people reading this thread would think we are wrong.

At least out of this, Dougie get's the smug satisfaction of knowing he has beat you while you continue to type your wee heartfelt messages on here.

Good for you, now go find the nurse for your medicine smile.gif

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I wasn't even aware there was a contest in progress Puggs!
mortonjag 2008-03-08 11:27:09
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Mar 8 2008, 11:17 AM) [snapback]415793[/snapback]
I'm not trying to hit nails MJ I'm just genuinely interested in what fans think about these nights and whether they are worthwhile. So far nobody has answered that but I'm a patient/hopeful sorta guy smile.gif

The message from previous shows has been that that's exactly what they are-stage managed 'Rallies' by the Maestro with the mike-the man who will NEVER have the balls to let the show go on when things are not just as he wants them.

I fully accept that the way things are I'd be on 'a hiding to nothing' by attending. I DID want to go to the meeting scheduled for February-I felt that might have been fiery enough to initiate some change. it was, of course, abandoned!

I'm also getting slightly pissed off with the puerile macho stuff-accusing folk of not having the courage of their convictions when they openly express them on the forum is a bit daft, but I must remember that the mentality of the average fan always seems to incorporate that crumb of physical aggro!

The pen is mightier than the sword.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 11:28:20
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 8 2008, 11:26 AM) [snapback]415798[/snapback]
Exactly, that was the kind of answer he's getting so upset that Dougie would answer like.

i think there is a personality clash between them because they are both so alike its unbelievable.

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If only you really knew me!!
mortonjag 2008-03-08 11:33:52
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Mar 8 2008, 11:10 AM) [snapback]415785[/snapback]
It is bollox, good luck to the lad for getting a job, but for slating someone for not attending when he is not going to attend either is bollox.

Thats like me slagging him for not being at the game last week if I didnt attend myself. Sheep culture, just following onto what everyone else is doing.

Erm Scotsguy40-I have a prior engagement for that evening which will involve my being in London overnight.


That is in fact the honest truth, but I knew nobody would believe a word of it, and frankly am ashamed that I didn't just confess in the first place. wink.gif

Sorry Mr Rae-it would have been lovely to re-acquaint myself with your hallowed personage, but you know what it's like with those International Conferences.

Enjoy your wee ego trip.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 11:35:21
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 8 2008, 11:30 AM) [snapback]415802[/snapback]
if only i did sad.gif

you dont tell me how you're feeling anymore, why dont you talk to me?

you've changed.

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Mortonjag is one of the good guys PT that's why so many hate him! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-08 11:39:03
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Mar 8 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]415751[/snapback]
Im a wringerer ooter for a 1 armed windae cleaner.

I've never been a fan of one armed windaes-they're a f*ckin pane TBH.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 11:41:34
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Mar 8 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]415759[/snapback]
Why work for a company like that? Thats whats wrong with this country, workforces accepting crap conditions like that.

Im with the Docs on this one. Why should they have to work extra hours? Doctors have familys too and interests outside of work as well.

Its one job I dont envy, body mechanics that if they make an error some wee eejit is away running to the papers and claiming compensation and wanting to cost some person their career. Id much rather have the knowledge that if I have to go and see my Doc he's awake and making proper decisions than one who's just done two late nights a sunday and a nightshift.

Careful Scotsguy-if you don't watch you'll be suggesting that doctors WANT to be able to help their patients.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 11:44:00
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Mar 8 2008, 11:39 AM) [snapback]415808[/snapback]
These nights could very well be worthwhile, if DDF has an honest open debate regarding the long (and his families) term commitment to Morton and what if any progress we may see under this.
If their commitment is short term the path to the future could be mapped out for us all to scrutinise.

I truely believe DDF is a genuine Morton fan, and as one surely now is the time to answer those more testing questions, but I fear we will be fed the usual claptrap of what HE wants us to hear.
That is the main problem with these gatherings, they are on his terms, and as long as they remain on his terms probing questions will not be given a straight answer.

But you never know, he may change the habit of a lifetime
and be open to all in attendance. rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-08 11:46:04
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 8 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]415750[/snapback]
You just sweep the water off that surface but I believe there is a burn that runs down the side of NDP that can over flow and can flood the pitch.

But there is no danger of the game today being called off.

Have they got the trick camera rigged up and ready for action?
mortonjag 2008-03-08 12:17:07
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 8 2008, 12:04 PM) [snapback]415823[/snapback]
Right "auld yin" tongue.gif . What has a direct cost of ~£40 and is charged to the "customers" for ~ £600? Give me a nod and maybe we can go into business together? laugh.gif

That sounds to me like profiteering-I'd hate to think it was also profiteering in the area of necessary treatment.

A meal for three at one of Effin'Gordon's little Bistros perhaps? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-08 12:22:03
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 8 2008, 11:23 AM) [snapback]415795[/snapback]
it's funny for me watching you wriggle like f*** on this hook, but i bet you're nearly crying. you've been shown up as a hypocrite and a coward.

ha ha ha.

You appear to have a somewhat pathologically unhealthy interest in my undoing, but keep your eyes open for that big fishy-he's HUNGRY.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 12:25:14
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Mar 8 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]415817[/snapback]
Erm MJ,
I was merely pointing out that REDSOX, was giving you some banter about you not attending when he in fact was not attending also, last time I back you up rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

I understood and TY-but redsox is going to Jail, whereas I have to attend an international conference on 'Micropenis-latest developments in surgery'.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 12:32:00
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Mar 8 2008, 11:57 AM) [snapback]415819[/snapback]
Not been a bad boy in my eyes, but I won't disagree he needs punished (but MJ may just enjoy that, especially if old DDF was wielding a cricket bat at his bare arse. tongue.gif )

'...and I'll give you Fudgy Wudgys son-WALLOP..WALLOP..WALLOP..I'll AULD SHOOGLY you..WALLOP..WALLOP..WALLOP..I'll wipe that leer off your face..WALLOP..WALLOP..WALLOP..AND THIS HURTS ME MORE THAN IT HURTS YOU..PANT..PANT.......THUD...


'Ms Donaldson-Mr Rae appears to be unwell-does the club have a defibrillator to hand please'?

mortonjag 2008-03-08 12:35:06 Has anyone noticed the striking resemblances between the Iron Lady and Auld Shoogly-the fans' favourite.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 12:53:11
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 8 2008, 12:48 PM) [snapback]415854[/snapback]
Because I never spent the last year aiming digs and critiques at the way Morton was run constantly greetin' for a chance to air my views to Dougie Rae personally. MortonJag did and it's as simple as that. Also, not being in the country is a pretty good excuse I reckon. If I had, however, spent a good year bitching and whining in the way MortonJag has, however, I would be thinking of taking the day of work and flying back up for it such is the importance it seems to have in his life.

To be honest MentalJag has a sorta Holmes/Moriarty thing going on here and he knows if he faced Dougie and got answers from him he'd have no point left in his life.
It's got very little to do with the "reason" but more to do with Mental's stance on Dougie. We all know it, hell, even Dougie knows it surely. And for all his posturing he doesn't have the cojones to back it up. For all his talk about Dougie getting an easy ride at these events perhaps it's no wonder if the people who have "valid" points like MentalJag are too busy thinking up excuses.
Well if I never went to the game because I was working or out the country you'd have no right to slag me. If I didn't go to the game because I was scared I'd be shown up for a s***ebag you may be onto something wink.gif
Toby aint sure he'll get a genuine hearing. Maybe it'll be like a New Labour conference and any dissenters will be ejected from the premises. Infact Toby will probably be barred from entering. However Toby is man enough to find out. He'll go and ask the questions you're to chicken-s*** to ask in real life. If he gets ignored so Dougie's rosey little new world continues unabated then so be it: he has more fuel for his fire and for all the times people disagree with Toby on this forum he clearly has convictions he stands by.
The MentalJag way: ignore 90% of the post and pick up one part that he can make a wee joke about. Only to be used when an argument is lost of course.
Pugs does look a bit like the guy outta Pop-Up Pirate to be fair.

So you won't be there then?
mortonjag 2008-03-08 12:56:34
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 8 2008, 12:42 PM) [snapback]415851[/snapback]
Don't know if you can....you run scared of Dougie if he is in public wink.gif

He terrifies the s*** out of me Puggs if the truth be told-reminds me a bit of that ex-wife they haven't found yet.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 12:58:21
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 8 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]415859[/snapback]
You're a fud

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When does your period of incarceration commence BTW?
mortonjag 2008-03-08 13:02:23
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 8 2008, 12:59 PM) [snapback]415866[/snapback]
I'll be gutted if she dies when I'm Jersey. Please let it be on the weekend of my going away party.

You seem rather keen to have us all know of your scheduled eight months in an undisclosed area of Jersey.

Is this your first time in the Bar L?

I can put in a good word if you like!
mortonjag 2008-03-08 13:06:16
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 8 2008, 12:57 PM) [snapback]415863[/snapback]
Summed up perfectly.

You are another who has no belief in the power of the rag-ex Mod?

Ach well have a good boot when you think I'm down. There is more than one way of skinning a cat. Direct confrontation has a place-but only very occasionally in my experience.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 13:09:54
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 8 2008, 01:00 PM) [snapback]415867[/snapback]
About eight months after you piss me off so much I end up throttling you.

(who am I kidding? there aint a court in the land that would convict me... maybe some community service)

It's quite amusing to hear you assume that you could 'throttle' me. Is this something you have already practised to perfection? Your violent outbursts worry me. Learn to calm down son, but failing that I'll be happy to arrange a meeting with you. I will, of course, bring along the Monkey, and a couple of big Polis! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-08 13:15:49
QUOTE(El gofer @ Mar 8 2008, 01:07 PM) [snapback]415871[/snapback]
Ha! Nice one puggs!!!

LCM great point. Brilliant how the hang them flog them brigade on Question Time also advocate Thatcher in a way that revisionists see Hitler as "having a few good ideas".

The tories messed up our society soemthing rotten and people need to remember that when thinking about Cameron. Thatcher was more unpopular than Blair around Iraq 2003, in the early 80s. She was only saved by a Labour Party in meltdown and tabloid support around the Falklands.

Can you think of anything good that she did?

The reason I ask is that she remained in power for a long time and folk seemed to keep voting her back in.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 13:23:42
QUOTE(tom @ Mar 8 2008, 01:04 PM) [snapback]415869[/snapback]
I have more sympathy with the Clydebank fans. IMO, the whole Gretna thing has been a joke. The last straw for me was when they barred us from their social club. After having to q for a pee in lopsided portable bogs as well...........Arrogant bass's ! I was sick of hearing their sugar daddy talking about the problems with Scottish football on tv & radio as well.

I was even more sick of the media hype and unquestioning public acceptance Tom.

Gretna is smaller than bloody Kilmacolm, and Gretna FC as portrayed by 'Living the Dream' was always a huge joke.

It never fails to amaze me how gullible the public can be!
mortonjag 2008-03-08 13:33:08
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 8 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]415880[/snapback]
St. Saviours if yer interested.

Are you going for the tomato picking?
mortonjag 2008-03-08 13:39:32
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 8 2008, 01:26 PM) [snapback]415881[/snapback]
You're too scared to arrange a meeting with another old man in a large hall with hundreds of other people. I very much doubt you'd meet me smile.gif

Hundreds of people EH-the old fart will be lucky if he drags in twenty.

Enough of your ageism my child-it's most 'un PC' and you wouldn't catch me behaving like that.

Don't be fooled by the 'old mentaljag' image-the semi professional wrestling still brings in a few bucks.

Welcome to the world of the MIGHTY SHOOGLEMASHER.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 13:43:26
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 8 2008, 01:27 PM) [snapback]415882[/snapback]
Wooohooo!

You were mentioned on a scabby wee radio show-NO REALLY-SHOCKEROONEY-well that's you set up for life. Well done, and I'd shake your hand if I wasn't afraid of your throttling apparatus!
mortonjag 2008-03-08 13:47:51
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Mar 8 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]415892[/snapback]
about the best prime minister in my lifetime. At least she had the balls to stand up to people unlike recent p.m.s . I am of the mindset that it wasn,t thatcher who ruined our country but the onset of weak minded liberals who have turned this place into a land of victims and given the minorities power over the majority of citizens.

I agree with some of that, and I was delighted when she humped that evil c*nt Scargill.

I do, however, believe that she left our society more polarised than ever before-greed became the in word, and money the God.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 13:51:02
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 8 2008, 01:43 PM) [snapback]415893[/snapback]
I'm sure the message board has its uses and I'm quite certain that it played a part in last week's programme column, but the Q&A is to a great extent an open forum. You may not get answers as detailed as you'd like or feel that they any questions were answered correctly, but the questions aren't pre-scripted.

You've spun that very sweetly-I still find myself tempted! Is body armour allowed under the dress code?
mortonjag 2008-03-09 07:25:29
QUOTE(Kaney @ Mar 8 2008, 03:38 PM) [snapback]415928[/snapback]
You're disgraceful MJ.

If you're not going to go and air your issues or concerns with the one man that CAN change things at the club, the please, oh please, stop moaning about it to us. We've had enough, the majority dont agree with you, and most importantly, we cant do f*ck all about it.

You truly are a greetin' faced loser.

Would you like to identify YOURSELVES?

I've published my identity on the forum more than once. Name-address-the lot!

Unlike Cornbeef who has the temerity to call me a keyboard assassin, and LCM, (a.k.a. 'I'm scared of p.m.s from other wee girls I've offended'), I DON'T hide behind a 'nom de plume'.

Goodness, one of Mr. Rae's little spies outed himself recently by publishing my personal details on this very forum. Isn't that correct Russell's Muscles-and where are you now-you little squid?

It's well known that the old Shooglemeister likes to be kept 'in the know' by his little band of helpers and tailbearers, and like it or not KANEY, comments made on our unofficial forum DO have an effect.

Now it pains me to have to do this, but it's perfectly plain that I sometimes have to repeat myself many times before what's being said penetrates bone.

I have made a considered decision not to attend the March Shoogly Show. I believe there is relative calm at the club at the moment, and the evening incorporates a welcome to our new management team-to whom I have already given my support. This is a 'Rally'- a time when folks are supposed to pull together. The meeting Rae cancelled in February would have been SO different.

Meanwhile I shall continue to post my opinions and ask pertinent questions on this message board.

Mr Rae knows who I am, but it seems he hasn't the courage of his convictions-I'm here to answer any questions he may care to ask-but then Mr Rae doesn't do personal stuff with the common 5/8ths, does he?

I hope the wee ego trip goes well, and I pray we don't lose both matches to be played in the interim.

GOD FORBID-he'd have to bottle out AGAIN!!!!! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-09 07:44:47
QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Mar 9 2008, 02:59 AM) [snapback]416177[/snapback]
heard that
even john macdonald agreed with you
and he played in that game

Correct-John was my personal driver on overnight deputising-a nice guy who was very honest about the Jardine incident.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 08:03:51 We played pretty well against St. Johnstone, comfortably extinguished the Binos, and yesterday lost to the runaway league leaders in poor playing conditions on their daft plastic play pen.

We were NOT disgraced yesterday-a few players were very disappointing-they know that themselves-but we still have the usual victimisation from the weans.

The glaring weaknesses are a LEGACY from JM, and from Rae's crazed stubborness in not binning him after we blew the play offs. How can Irons/Collins be expected to turn around seasons of stupidity in three or four games?

We will win on Tuesday, and we will win again on Saturday.

I predict that by Saturday evening about 80% of our regular posters will be tipping Davie Irons to succeed Sir Alex Ferguson! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-09 08:09:50
QUOTE(Danger_Mouse @ Mar 8 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]415921[/snapback]
I work for a transport org - and its s***e - I deal with junkies who travel for free and old women who travel for free.

I dont know who I hate more - junkies or old women - probably old women.

Also I have to work saturdays so dont get golf in the morn and cappielow in the afternoon so all in all its total s***

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mortonjag 2008-03-09 08:25:31
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 8 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]416079[/snapback]
Ton Ton, you must live a terribly, terribly mundane life if something as trivial as this got you so angry you felt driven to start a whole thread on it. laugh.gif

Chill out man, or if you must get all worked up at least get angry about something important like climate change or the threat of relegation.

FFS you really DO think you're going to live for ever!

Ton Ton-you are spot on-when I was a boy we had Christmas, Easter, and Summer holidays-just as it should be in this good Christian country of ours.

I have no objection whatsoever to minorities celebrating ramitin, big 'eid, yon kipper, and going to maths-indeed they may eat fish on every day of the week if they so desire-fish is good for the brain apparently.

Now-where was I?

Oh yes-LIVE AND LET LIVE-that's what I'm supposed to say. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-09 08:35:27
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Mar 8 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]416052[/snapback]
no-one forced your parents into buying a house, they were just given the choice to do so. I know of plenty of people who have made quite a bit of cash through buying their council house, so there are winners as well as losers in these things. As for sink estates, i dont think that is thatchers fault, most of the dodgy estates i know of are populated by the workshy, immigrants and those dependant on drugs/alcohol. New labours policies of making it more than feesible to earn a living off the state through the benefit culture has caused these places to become what they are today. In my day a young un-married mother was basically shunned by society but now its a ticket to a free home and a multitude of benefits.

Pretty well my perception of how it is in Glasgow.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 08:48:38
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 8 2008, 10:43 PM) [snapback]416140[/snapback]
I have no gripe against Thatcher at all. She was elected democratically (as democratically as the flawed British parliamentary system allowed) and she implemented policies that she promised in her party's manifesto. She did what I expected an arch Tory would do. Her reign ended in 1990 however and opposition parties have had since then plenty of opportunities to provide an alternative. Most have failed miserably.
The Labour Party in particular has played one of the biggest con tricks in political history by capitalising on a consensus for change in 1997 only to carry on with the same, squalid politics of greed. The one saving grace of the wasted years of Blair is the re-establishment of the Scottish Parliament. Self determination for our people is now a realistic prospect, it offers a beacon of hope for all those who strive for an equitable and just society in Scotland.

Not so much a 'con trick' as a bare faced imposition of policy Mr Edwards-socialism is dead in this country, and our values are eroded to rock bottom.

Forget all the sh*t about living in a free and liberalised society-it's not even a meritocracy any more-Britain has a plasticised, veneered facade of morality thinly covering a core of 'ME. ME' greed, and a willingness to tread down anybody who stands in the way of perceived progress.

Thatcher's values may well have been skewed, but she did have some.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 08:58:23
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 9 2008, 08:11 AM) [snapback]416194[/snapback]
Agreed MJ, it will take far longer than 3 games to right the wrongs of McInally as the team try to learn how to play football again. That said, I've posted elsewhere I'm disappointed with Irons' continuation of the tinkering of personnel and formation. McGuffie (a player Irons knows well) has played in three games in three different positions. The sooner we get a settled side and formation the better.

We desperately need a settled side, but you can't make a silk purse from sows' ears.

We really are SO short in some departments yet Rae STILL wanted to hang on to JM.

We have ONE goalie.

We have NO established full backs

We have only TWO central defenders

We have NO wingers

We have MANY, MANY utility midfielders, and only a couple of goalscorers.

Can you really BLAME Irons for having to 'tinker' in an attempt to get some sort of shape?
mortonjag 2008-03-09 09:00:37 St Andrews.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 09:06:22
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Mar 9 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]416205[/snapback]
Tenerife on Wednesday morning for a week! biggrin.gif

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May the sun shine on your drinks tray! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-09 09:17:16
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 9 2008, 09:02 AM) [snapback]416204[/snapback]
Aye but that was because you forgot to cover your address in a letter you scanned laugh.gif

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Indeed it was because I didn't bother covering the address Puggs- it's no big secret


Dr (to all you commoners) tongue.gif Ernie Newall, M.A., M.B.,Ch.B.,

1/1, 4 Pleasance Way,

GLASGOW

G43 1SA

I'm also available to answer any queries via p.m.s and have helped several posters with health matters in the last few months.

I have a certificate in counselling skills and give of those services to a local Charity helping youngsters with addictive illness.

The Monkey and Fing live here too-they have permitted me to release that information

mortonjag 2008-03-09 09:22:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 9 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]416206[/snapback]
I think the better question is is he new to the board?

No offence mate, but this has been doen to death on here, if you look back through the morton chatter pages you'll find umpteen of these threads. I don't think one more will add anything.

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...and to think they call Mortonjag PATRONISING!


I heard Ryan Harding getting abused from the very start of the game yesterday-it wasn't pleasant, nor justified. By all means shout at players when they're making an arse of themselves. Wanton abuse says everything about the abuser.


mortonjag 2008-03-09 09:27:32
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 9 2008, 09:07 AM) [snapback]416209[/snapback]
What a cow she was and open with it. She had a dislike for Scotland and all things Scottish and she couldn't care less who knew about it as it grew more support in the South of engerland.

She was voted in by south of engerland and they loved it, but when I think back it was Scotlands own undoing as 90% were voting labour which was run by a bunch of profiteers.

If Thatcher(cow) did one thing for me, it would be that she it that she rammed home how Scottish Indepenance is a must, and I think most of age would think the same

We certainly need independence from creed driven parties like the old Tories and Labour, who had their respective electorates mindlessly crossing the correct box for countless decades Sean.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 10:32:30
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 9 2008, 09:35 AM) [snapback]416224[/snapback]
Was it just me, or did several other people also just set up subscriptions for gay scud mags and double glazing appointments to a certain Glasgow residence ? laugh.gif laugh.gif

TonInDublin

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mortonjag 2008-03-09 10:38:13
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 9 2008, 10:02 AM) [snapback]416238[/snapback]
Thats rich coming from you.

Cue a 6-Page Ego-trip from MortonJug.

You clearly fail to understand the term, caputupanus.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 10:56:46
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 9 2008, 09:37 AM) [snapback]416226[/snapback]
I was in Tesco's the other night with my buddhist fiancee who has only just arrived int eh country. When noticing an aisle full of Easter egss she said ''what's that'' ?

I started explaining that after Jesus was crucified he was kept in a cave and then rose from the dead and pushed an egg shape boulder away from the entrance of the cave, and now people eat chocolate eggs to remember that...she just gave me one of those ''what the fook are you on about'' looks, so I gave up.

I'd nip that in the bud if I were you! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-09 10:59:29
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 9 2008, 09:47 AM) [snapback]416231[/snapback]
Ah see mistake one...linking religion to commercialism. I reckon to someone from Thailand that may take a while to make sense. Wait until Christmas roles around then she will understand!

Oh and that is the first time I have heard that reason for Easter Eggs...and I'm catholic (maybe it's because I'm catholic I have never heard of it). I'm not doubting your reasons Ian but wonder if anyone else has heard that version?

I knew from an early age that the custom of rolling a hard boied egg down a hill at Easter was symbolic of the Biblical 'rolling away of the stone' from Christ's grave.

I believed it to be common knowledge.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 11:00:42
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 9 2008, 10:00 AM) [snapback]416237[/snapback]
You miss the point, MJ. (Something that is happening with increasing regularity these days rolleyes.gif ).

Easter break and Spring break are seperate, as others have already pointed out.

I NEVER miss the point.

Bring back Easter Holidays!
mortonjag 2008-03-09 11:08:33
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Mar 9 2008, 10:51 AM) [snapback]416261[/snapback]
I only agreed with the 'Time Tae Go' quote because they were showing a valid point. I never agreed with the personal abuse they threw at McInally, and I never will as he is a great guy. I never joined in with any personal abuse they shouted. Just because I am younger than you doesn't mean my opinion isn't valid.

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Older is not always wiser-often-but not always! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-09 11:22:45 I think it's a wee bit early to be using the term 'tactically inept'. We were the better side for most of the first half-f*ck knows why our defence was paralysed by that long clearance which allowed Graham a free swipe past McGurn, but we were matching them in the midfield and had two shots on target-one of which their goalie almost spilled.

I'd suggest that rather than tactical ineptness, what ultimately let us down yesterday was certain players under performing-and I'm NOT saying they weren't trying.

Irons has to make do with what's been left by JM, and one aspect which saddens me is the lack of true wingers. If you're interested read Gordon Waddell-page 76 in today's Sunday Mail. Neither Jimbo nor Kev is, or ever will be a winger-we just don't have any, and that takes a whole dimension out of possible tactics.Yesterday David McGregor was given the right back role-he looked uncomfortable-under JM David NEVER had an established slot in the side-maybe he's just not good enough- he's certainly NOT a full back.

One thing that does puzzle me slightly is the omission of young Graham in favour of Wake-the former played a stormer in the first half against Gretna at Palmerston-what's the score there?
mortonjag 2008-03-09 12:18:49
QUOTE(nani @ Mar 9 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]416275[/snapback]
Mr Edwards, You are entitled to your opinion although I think it would have been extremely unfair to dismiss a manager who has just delivered a championship. I think the reality is that players are more important than managers and losing McGowan from last season was the biggest blow. Poor signings in the summer cost us. Was that Mcinallys fault or Raes or just unfortunate? If we had signed some of those we were chasing we wouldnt be where we are. Dont tell me that Irons is a tactical genius or are you one of those who likes someone jumping up and down on the touchline? Irons very nearly blew an unassailable lead last season which would be my biggest worry about him. McInally did ok. You just dont like him. When will you start the Irons must go chants? I have already seen a thread saying Irons is tactically inept. Seems to me there must be an awful lot of posters on here who have the UEFA coaching badge. Everyone is a tactical genius. Interested also to see all the Jenkins is crap comments. Far as I remember the majority on here have wanted us to sign him for a long time. Another Dougie signing?

Nani-I'm not exactly sure what to make of your most recent offering-I'll bet it all makes perfect sense to you, but it reads to me as a bit of a jumble.

It looks like what you mean is that if Shoogly had managed to sign Gowsa we'd currently be running away with the first division and everybody would be just lovin' JM.

Everybody that is, except Mr Edwards who is well known for his unjustified and pathological hatred for all sorts of good people.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 12:28:56
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 9 2008, 11:40 AM) [snapback]416273[/snapback]
Reply to McB (apologies that I fecked up the quote tags)
I would argue that self interest was always there- see my sig.

Sure there was, but there was also sense of social responsibility, that there was an obligation to contibute to society in return for a decent wage. Thatcher did for that and replaced it with the 'I'll do anything for a quick buck, feck you Jack I'm alright' society we have today.

Those are indeed present, first time buyer unaffordability was there when the McB's bought their first house under Jim C's labour government, sink estates were certainly present in greenock pre Thatcher, exploitative landlords ditto.

First time buyers today have had to borrow up to 5 times the value of their salaries to secure a that first step on the property ladder. Of course they have to find a few grand for the deposit first, maybe not so easy when you're already up to the neck in debt acrued as a student. (That one was down to her disciple's fault) The lucky ones have have middle classs parents who can mibbe dip into their equity and help out. Those of working class parentage aren't so lucky. Sink estates pre-Thatcher? There were some less than desirable areas yes, but never to the same extent as post-Thatcher. The 'less than desirable areas' then also housed a reasonable proportion of decent hard working families. With the advent of Thatcher's two tier society, social housing ( bloody hell I hate that term, it's a pc euphemism for 'housing for poor people') became the dumping ground for every social problem you can imagine. Exploitative landlords? Come to Govanhill, where Rachman has returned to house '14-to-a-room' migrant worker families in slums not seen since the 1930s.

I would argue that the publicly owned industries served the public poorly, remember waiting over a year before the state owned telecom monopoly decided you could mibbies get a telephone line?
Fair enough pedagogue if you don't mind paying utility bills that have gone up by umpteen thousand per cent to foreign corporations that make multi-million profits.

Admit it McB, Your hero and her disciple have sold off the family silver and put us all in hock. tongue.gif

Everybody was a loser DE-can that be so?

Anyway-on a lighter note, my brother turned on his radio yesterday morning to hear breaking news that a 'baby badger' had been admitted to hospital-mind you he was still half asleep!
mortonjag 2008-03-09 12:31:22
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 9 2008, 12:24 PM) [snapback]416279[/snapback]
I would think that's highly unlikely but I have kids who may one day have kids who may in turn one day have kids and so on and so on.

So for that reason I'm concerned about how the planet will fare long after I've left this mortal coil.

That is INDEED a cause for global concern.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 12:35:38
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Mar 9 2008, 12:30 PM) [snapback]416285[/snapback]
The only thing that annoyed me yesterday was the guy that was having a go at Chris Miller and basically telling him to f*** off to St Johnstone (can't remember the exact words - but it was something along those lines). Miller has given his all for this club and should be treated with a bit of respect. The main reason he is going to St Johnstone is because Rae and McInally f***ed him around - i really believe that had we not taken him for granted then he would have signed an extension.

Is that legal in this day and age?
mortonjag 2008-03-09 12:44:04
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 9 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]416287[/snapback]
Yes, in as much as the country's fundamental assets and resources are no longer in public ownership.

Distributionism is almost more crazy than totally free enterprise.

Join Mortonjag's pragmatic socialist party!


Some hae meat and canna eat,

And some wad eat that want it;

But we hae meat, and we can eat,

And sae the Lord be thankit.


Robert Burns
mortonjag 2008-03-09 12:47:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 9 2008, 12:42 PM) [snapback]416292[/snapback]
I think I'll take a trip to Belgium, just to see how boring it is. And I can shake my walking stick at CHC.

Does he not hibernate all summer-he worries so much about his balls overheating and things.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 12:52:51
QUOTE(tontric @ Mar 9 2008, 12:46 PM) [snapback]416295[/snapback]
I know yesterday didn't go very well but overall I've been quite happy with what I've seen from Irons and Collins so far. I have got one criticism though.....

Now that they have been in for a few weeks I'm a bit disappointed that there appears to be no loan signings coming to cappielow. I would have thought that they would have been looking for a few fresh faces to help push us on in the tail end of the season, as other clubs in the division have.

It may well be that they are waiting to see what happens at Gretna to snap up a few of those players but realistically we need them now. I'm not saying that if we lose on Tuesday night that we will be in the playoffs but it isn't far away from that.

I've been a bit puzzled by that one too. Almost every successful Div 1 club seems to have a couple of players on loan right now, and it's the only way we can fill the gaps left by JM.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 12:55:02
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 9 2008, 12:50 PM) [snapback]416298[/snapback]
Oh aye, almost forgot, I'm off to Honolulu in October as well. smile.gif

But that's work not pleasure, one whole week there to do a 30 minute presentation. cool.gif

Porn laws too strict in Brussels then?
mortonjag 2008-03-09 12:58:03
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 9 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]416299[/snapback]
thatcher's policies are indefensible. i find it quite sad that someone i have some respect for can say that her policies were anything other than repulsive. we had neds in the 50s indeed. what a stupid thing to say. from your leafy house in the mearns it might seem so. shame on you.

Go-spank his naughty botty Almighty Creator.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 13:11:55
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 9 2008, 01:05 PM) [snapback]416316[/snapback]
I'm beginning to wonder about your apparent interest in 'spanking naughty botties'. blink.gif

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I take it you disapprove!
mortonjag 2008-03-09 13:15:09
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 9 2008, 01:00 PM) [snapback]416312[/snapback]
I have managed to persuade the family to try a UK summer holiday. Travelling to Devon & Cornwall. Fingers crossed the weather does not let us down.

Memories of 1987-the best family holiday of all time in Cornwall-get the weather and you will enjoy it!
mortonjag 2008-03-09 13:18:41
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 9 2008, 01:15 PM) [snapback]416329[/snapback]
Another Rachman eh? laugh.gif

....depends how many you can shove in a doo cote up Kilmacolm Road!
mortonjag 2008-03-09 13:20:14
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 9 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]416330[/snapback]
Whatever floats your boat Mentaljag, as long as it's between consenting adults. laugh.gif

Don't worry DE they always consent-I make damned sure of that!
mortonjag 2008-03-09 14:21:23
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Mar 9 2008, 02:01 PM) [snapback]416345[/snapback]
Where ?

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Well the perceived wisdom would suggest Russell and Weatherson!
mortonjag 2008-03-09 14:29:12
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Mar 9 2008, 01:11 PM) [snapback]416324[/snapback]
The Port toon is good for the wee shops that are still there and im sure the pensioners prefer that than trooping down to Greenock rolleyes.gif. Tesco Extra in the Port is far better and Greenock imo is utter s***e for shopping considering the size of the toon.The Oak Mall is a joke.

Greenock is just s***e full stop wink.gif

When I was a kid, Greenockians described Port Glasgow as 'The Dirty Wee Port', but bear in mind that almost the whole of the main road from Inchgreen right through to Newark Castle had the yards on one side and the tall tenements on the other. It's a much changed place nowadays though some scars persit-WTF is happening with that Gourock Ropeworks building-is it bloody Mileson's or something?

Oh-and apart from the wee dumpy ones opposite the Coronation Park, the Port never self mutilated with high rise blocks either.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 14:32:14
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 9 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]416342[/snapback]
The Easter holidays will be on the 21st and 24th March.
Yes, you have missed the point.

As already stated I NEVER miss the point. Bring back the Easter Holidays.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 14:54:05
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 9 2008, 02:02 PM) [snapback]416347[/snapback]
Neds in the 50s? I lived in Corlic St in the 50s and saw few if any neds so you may well be correct, I mentioned the 70s, there sure as hell were plenty of the wee swine about Greenock then.
I'm quite particular about who spanks my botty. laugh.gif

Normally it's Madame Defarge who charges a very reasonable 50 euros. I shall p.m. you with her mobile number MJ. tongue.gif

No need Mr Bam, and she's ripping you off-only 35 euros down here in the smoke.

Now let me see-the 'Drum', the 'Mulk', Pollok and 'Easterhoose' were all into second generation by the mid seventies, and before Mrs T had entered office were notorious locally for gangs, widespread Neddery, and 'no go' areas.

I'm sure you will remember Frankie Vaughan made himself a wee bit of a cult hero up here in the SIXTIES, by trying to talk some sense into the Easterhouse gangs.

Ask anybody who grew up in one of the big city schemes-it had f*ck all to do with Thatcher, and plenty to do with human beings not getting their wee pink botties skelped.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 14:59:39
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 9 2008, 02:32 PM) [snapback]416365[/snapback]
The Port doesn't even count as a town in its own right - knock the hovel down and build a new multi-purpose stadium for the Ton. tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-09 15:00:59
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ Mar 9 2008, 02:35 PM) [snapback]416367[/snapback]
1-1 Celtic level with the last kick of the ball....

JB.

The Tims have a habit of doing that of late-poor sheep shaggers!
mortonjag 2008-03-09 15:02:47 The NEW Oak Mall?
mortonjag 2008-03-09 15:05:13
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 9 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]416373[/snapback]
Oddly I can never remember being taught a link to the Jesus dying and eggs. I have always just assumed it was something to do with spring.
Still never heard of it huh.gif

Easter Eggs and Easter Stories
Deep Cove Crier March, 1989

The first thing that comes to mind as soon as you say Easter, is eggs. One of the customs most popular with children is hunting Easter eggs. I'll never forget the fun I had as a school-age boy running around my back yard collecting hidden Easter eggs. My sisters loved to eat their chocolate eggs. I loved to hoard mine. Sometimes I sold my left over eggs to them in exchange for money or comics.

International Eggs
In Denmark, children have contests with dyed Easter eggs, which they roll down hills. The boy or girl whose egg rolls the longest distance without breaking wins his opponent's egg and keeps his own. In Italy, many children receive a loaf of rich bread shaped like a crown and studded with coloured Easter egg candies. ...In some parts of Germany, it is customary for village girls to present their suitors with red eggs at Easter. In Northwestern Europe, peasants have formal egg devouring contests. Others have egg stabbing contests in which they try to smash each other's Easter egg

Why Eggs?
Why this obsession with eggs at Easter? The reason is because eggs hold the germ of new life. Easter represents new life through Jesus' resurrection. So naturally eggs became the perfect symbol of new life and resurrection for the Christian world. The bright colours painted on the eggs became symbolic of the joy and happiness over Jesus' return from the grave.

Easter Joy!!
Easter became known as the "Sunday of Joy" (Dominica Gaudii). People were so exuberantly joyful over Jesus' resurrection that they celebrated with dancing, sports, and even joke telling from the pulpit. All labour ceased, all trades were suspended. The Law Courts were closed. Money was given to the poor, slaves were freed. People exchanged the Easter kiss and everyone would greet each other with the phrase "Christ is risen" and the response, "He is risen indeed!" Easter in the old days was a joyful, happy, unforgettable party that changed people's lives.

Easter Stones
One final symbolism of Easter eggs is based on their resemblance to a small stone. Eggs came to represent in a miniaturized way the stone rolled away from Jesus' tomb. Easter eggs therefore became a powerful reminder that Jesus burst forth from the tomb on Easter morning. Easter eggs remind us that Christ is risen ... He is risen indeed!


Have a happy Easter!
The Reverend Ed Hird
St. Simon's Anglican Church
mortonjag 2008-03-09 15:07:43
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 9 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]416383[/snapback]
The Pensioners Playpark.
That dive doesn't even merit the word "Mall" anymore.

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mortonjag 2008-03-09 15:17:43
QUOTE(ThornwoodTon @ Mar 9 2008, 02:59 PM) [snapback]416375[/snapback]
Someone did tell them to shut it and got a mouthful of abuse for doing so. I personally thought that some of the shouts were absolutely ridiculous, especially the one directed at Miller and the tirade of abuse towards McCarthy for 'wanting to be Irish' or whatever. I bet a large number of us were cringing listening to that - its the kind of pish you would only expect at old firm matches.

And whats all this about slagging folk off for being new to the board? Do we measure how much of a fan we are by the number of posts we have on this message board? If so then I'm a fairweather-fan even though I've been going to Cappielow since I was 8. Absolutely ridiculous.

Of course we don't but I'm very suspicious of anybody who calls himself Thornwood Ton, and claims to come from Broomhill.

Then again that could refer to Greenock-but why the Thornwood?

Is there still a SPAR in the wee shopping centre on Broomhill Drive? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-09 15:28:58
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 9 2008, 03:10 PM) [snapback]416388[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-03-09 15:31:02
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 9 2008, 03:18 PM) [snapback]416403[/snapback]
Did you sing Flower of Scotland with heart filled passion ?

Fart killed passion Spurtle?
mortonjag 2008-03-09 15:32:54
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 9 2008, 03:19 PM) [snapback]416405[/snapback]
As much as I despise Thatcher I'd have to agree that neddism and gang culture was very much alive and well in the 70s. In fact I'm sure that in one year alone in the late 70s (1979?) there were 8 or 9 murders in Greenock alone, most of them gang related in a gang-feud between two families from the Strone and Gibshill areas. And there were certainly plenty of neds and violence in the Cowdenknowes High School when I was there in the mid 70s.

One thing that I think that was different then was that most of the violence was restricted to between the gangs and was less indiscriminate, so if you weren't part of a gang you were probably less likely to be a victim of unprovoked violence.

That is correct.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 15:35:57
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 9 2008, 03:25 PM) [snapback]416411[/snapback]
It seems that Liam Fox was a leading light in the anti-homo wing of Glasgow University Union. Wonder if he's a pal of Soapy Souter's as well as your's? laugh.gif It always struck me as odd that their infamous Beer-But-No-Queers Bar was also off limits to females. As I recall it was badly infected with obnoxious reactionaries, many of them ex-Aloysius law students, who were more than likely a bunch of rugger buggers partial to a bit of jobby jabbing anyway. They certainly didn't like riff raff students from the Mack that's for sure. What the Feck, there was much more fun to be had in The Vic Cafe, or The 'get yersel into a' State Bar.

Are you saying that Mr Fox dislikes pufes?
mortonjag 2008-03-09 15:38:13 I hate nobody, and love very few.

I don't think we've been introduced yet.

Would you like me to smack your little pink botty for being a naughty tottie?
mortonjag 2008-03-09 15:41:25
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 9 2008, 03:26 PM) [snapback]416413[/snapback]
I bumped into Davie Irons in Tesco in Dumfries on Friday night and offered him my best wishes in his new job. I also made a few suggestions to him, which included: bring Jamie Stevenson in and play him in the middle, not as a pseudo-winger. Either drop, or alternatively coach, the central defence, and maybe thing about using McGuffie at centre back in place of one of them; keep the ball down; and one other piece of advice relating to the social life habits of one of our forwards. I also suggested that the Value mince was quite high in fat content and he should maybe consider the Tesco Finest beef mince which is dearer but a lot healthier. Actually that could be a metaphor for our team...

I see from Hamilton that he appears not to have realised I was being serious. Oh well, maybe on Tuesday night... if he has time for mince and tatties before setting off for Broadwood.

You clearly have much experience in talking mince!
mortonjag 2008-03-09 16:54:48
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 9 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]416457[/snapback]
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I can just image Davie looking at his watch and smiling politely while Alibi's telling him how to do his job. laugh.gif

If it's as easy as that Alibi, why didn't you apply for the Ton manager's job? rolleyes.gif

You always make those sweeping assumptions.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 16:58:19
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 9 2008, 04:56 PM) [snapback]416460[/snapback]
And you always make those stupid and boring postings. rolleyes.gif

...and you can't resist replying-no matter how stupid or boring they are! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-09 17:00:54
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 9 2008, 04:59 PM) [snapback]416462[/snapback]
Ach, did I upset you auld yin? tongue.gif

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Told you so!!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-09 17:04:40
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Mar 9 2008, 04:59 PM) [snapback]416463[/snapback]
If Irons wasn't such a gentleman I'm sure he would have been doing a mime of a man tying a ligature round his neck followed by pouring accelerant over his entire body and lighting it................. and who would have blamed him sad.gif

Hee Hee ----I just love the dual standards-everybody but everybody on the forum thinks he knows better than the manager-at least sometimes--- but when Alibi has a light hearted blether with Mr Irons, he suddenly becomes a laughing stock!!!
mortonjag 2008-03-09 17:06:38
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Mar 9 2008, 05:02 PM) [snapback]416465[/snapback]
Ah the keyoard gansta's in............... time for the old ligature sketch.

Identity please Cloth Ears-at the moment you are just Cloth Ears/Shooglyphile/s*** stirrer! sleep.gif wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-09 17:08:13
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 9 2008, 05:06 PM) [snapback]416470[/snapback]
Oh don't you worry about that MJ, you're still very much the board laughing stock. tongue.gif

...and don't you forget it Son!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 07:00:09 I plan to write again today to Drew Herbertson at the SFA.

If you re-call he responded to my initial letter to Gordon Smith stating that Thomson's behaviour in the previous Hamilton v Morton match was still under investigation, but despite a prompt some three weeks ago I've not been updated.

I find the comments below interesting. Smith seems to feel that Thomson is a target for bullying players/officials.




Smith, who said later he had no complaints about the striker's sending-off, was angered by what he claimed were continual efforts by the Hibs bench to influence the referee.


"I felt that the reaction by the Hibs' bench was poor," said Smith. "Throughout the match they were calling for yellow cards and ordering-offs, etcetera. I have no argument with the ordering-off. The tackle was a poor one and I thought the referee made the correct decision.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 07:04:09
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 9 2008, 05:17 PM) [snapback]416474[/snapback]
The burds were in the extension bar. Or did that not exist when you were at the varsity? tongue.gif
Alibi in "chasing his nat king cole shockerrrr! wink.gif
Does Liam chase his nat king?
Nope, they're very cumfy

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mortonjag 2008-03-10 07:05:59
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 9 2008, 05:19 PM) [snapback]416477[/snapback]
To be serious. I remember when DE abjured the use of such terms as "jobby jabbing". I have pm'd Edinton, peace and blessings upon him, asking the Edwards be given a fortnight's ban for lowering the moral tone of this forum.

I concur Mr Bam-I suggest we neologise euphemistically to coprocopulation.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 07:14:07
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 9 2008, 05:52 PM) [snapback]416486[/snapback]
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I've been to Brussels and loved it. Each to his own and all, but I've never fancied going to to a gay bar. I'll leave that for Soapy Souter, Liam Fox and his pal Tom McB. tongue.gif



Does Mr Bam leather his pufe's in gay bars too?

I'd heard the tanning was usually done at the arse end of his back garden.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 07:17:06
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 9 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]416582[/snapback]
i keep thinking people are saying " i hate port ton " when they say port town or port toon, its not doing much for my already shattered self confidence sad.gif

I LOVE PORT TOON


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mortonjag 2008-03-10 07:19:27
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 9 2008, 10:52 PM) [snapback]416596[/snapback]
Don't tell me, you shove them up your arse in an attempt to lose the Greenock accent and speak in 'received english'. tongue.gif Or do you do that with marbles? Whatever, no need to adopt airs and graces with me, I'm proudly plebeian.

The man is neither anglo nor homo phobic apparently.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 07:23:37
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 9 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]416524[/snapback]
The point I was making re: home ownership was that as a result of her policies the culture in the UK was completely changed and I for one am happier for it. I am aware that home ownership is not for everyone and that council or public housing should be there as a last resort. I'm not really that sure as to why the government should provide people with a house, other than as a safety net, as it breeds a culture of dependency.
I agree with Tom regarding the middle class not liking the working class living next to them. When I hear "left wing" academics spout so much nonsense about council housing it makes my blood boil. Why shouldn't the working class own their homes?

When I still hear the nonsense term 'Working Class' bandied about, it makes my blood boil Mr McArthur.


Nowadays it's as big a myth as half the crap Maggie's been blamed for.

BTW is she deid yet?
mortonjag 2008-03-10 07:30:30 I find this wanton disparagement of one of Inverclyde's local amenities disturbing-if you really want depression go to the Piazza in Pishley toon centre.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 07:41:17
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 9 2008, 04:32 PM) [snapback]416453[/snapback]
And the moral of the story is:

"If you swim with Sharks, you're gonna get bitten."
Who was Brooks Milesons best friend on this messageboard a few years ago?

HA Caputupanus-you're suggesting is was Sir Alistair, but you're wrong-Mileson was merely a client, and one does not go out of ones way to upset clients.


The majority of posters on this forum were right behind Gretna and a few of us were subjected to the usual nasty stuff (as with JM and Rae).

The moral of the story is

Ignore Mortonjag at your peril. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-10 07:48:32
QUOTE(ThornwoodTon @ Mar 9 2008, 11:31 PM) [snapback]416602[/snapback]
Its true I live in Broomhill but I spend most of my time in the Thornwood pub. There is indeed a spar at the Broomhill shops. smile.gif

The Thornwood is not such a nice pub on a very hot summers day when the Shieldhall jobby factory is going full steam-next stop after the s***e laden air passes over Thornwood and Broomhill is Bendy Wendy's hoose at Hughenden where it is sooked in and processed for distribution at Holyrood.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 07:53:41
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 9 2008, 08:34 PM) [snapback]416538[/snapback]
he will not reply on here and he should never but i'm sure he would reply to email, a letter or if you met him, or questions at this event.

Bryan, I know that. I've written to GMFC on two or three occasions lending my support-specifically with regard to the Craig Thomson debacle, and have yet to receive a response.

The minute I believe Rae is willing to answer any question honestly, he'll be hearing plenty from Mortonjag.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 07:56:45
QUOTE(Toby @ Mar 10 2008, 01:12 AM) [snapback]416612[/snapback]
Paul, I'd be extremely disapppointed if you weren't to turn up at this. The football's been grim and I accept you not going because you want to be entertained which wasn't happening, but you're one of the guys that will kick up a stink if you're not happy with something. This is your chance to ask a few difficult questions. i'd actually try and meet up with you a couple of days earlier if you want to draft some questions.

Don't fall into the Mortonjag trap and look like a s***ebag. I'm absolutely determined to go to this and state my case, and I'll be doing it stone cold sober too. For a change.

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Toby-I can get you an excellent criminal defence lawyer!!!

Best of luck mate-they DID climb Everest eventually!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 07:59:56
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Mar 9 2008, 05:19 PM) [snapback]416476[/snapback]
No need for the paranoia - I'm not out to get you (or am I ? ) I believe you had to chuck playing rugby as you thought they were all talking about you in the scrum.......

No MJ , I possibly have the advantage of never having met DDFR - apart from the occasional 'brush' in hospitality but I do feel you go on like a burst pipe about our Chairman and then you have the cheek to pass up the opportunity to speak to him face to face-ish. You are entitled to ask questions and challenge the running of your club - My thoughts are that he may be far from perfect but 90 % of clubs would love to have a DDFR (I believe)- and I know that 40% of statistics are made up rolleyes.gif

My thoughts are that they are welcome to him! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-10 08:04:34 [quote name='Lifelongfan' post='416617' date='Mar 10 2008, 02:25 AM']Once again another pathetic attempt at humour (tinged with the usual sarcastic comment) still if it does it for you, which it obviously does, then why should we care![/quote]
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Erm --Sir Alistair and I probably understand my comment perfectly well.

I'm sorry I can't cater for every sense of humour-I'm still working on the I.Q. > 40 group. Please be patient! ALL of youse wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-10 08:12:42
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 10 2008, 07:56 AM) [snapback]416636[/snapback]
I think we should smile.gif

Pardon my higgorance young chanter chomper, but is 'PUGGS' actually your name?

If so, I may construct a Limerick in your honour!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 09:32:56 Jim-I just wonder if you may have sleep apnoea syndrome. It's quite a common cause of 'insomnia', and can be treated.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 09:43:53 Many happy returns-I just happened to notice you work for Iberdrola.

Where are you based?
mortonjag 2008-03-10 09:48:22
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 10 2008, 09:44 AM) [snapback]416652[/snapback]
I think we discussed that before, would I be right in saying that is when you stop breathing in your sleep?

Correct Jim-maybe we did chat about it-I just wondered when you mentioned the weight problem-it's most common in overweight middle aged men.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 09:50:56
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 10 2008, 09:48 AM) [snapback]416656[/snapback]
middle age? I'm just a boy laugh.gif

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Aye middle age is a funny thing-you don't reach it until you're about 55 and it lasts for thirty years!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 09:58:58
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 10 2008, 09:57 AM) [snapback]416660[/snapback]
Well in that case If I out live middle age I'll be one happy chappy. laugh.gif

....and your peers will have spent three times as long as you giving it ZZZZZZ's!!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 10:02:45
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 10 2008, 10:00 AM) [snapback]416662[/snapback]
laugh.gif but in all seriousness insomnia is a curse.

Don't lose sleep over it!


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mortonjag 2008-03-10 10:04:28 Saw Doctors-can hardly make out a word but still make me laugh!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 10:12:32
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 10 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]416667[/snapback]
Not yet to be honest, I will look into it later when the kids are at nursery and see what I can find.

Well-whatever you do-remember G.P.s are overpaid underskilled fudds who try to get your arse off the chair before it's actually hit it-so here's the technique.

'Doctor-I'm worried about my insomnia-I've researched it myself, and nothing works. I suspect I may have sleep apnoea syndrome and would like a referral to a specialist, please'.

Doc (thinking-'Thank f*ck-this one's easy-I can pass the buck as usual')--'I shall send off a referral letter today'.

'Thank you Doctor'.


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mortonjag 2008-03-10 10:23:36
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 10 2008, 10:21 AM) [snapback]416672[/snapback]
Queen of the South's second goal against Dundee, which many of you will have seen on Sportscene. I was at the game and it was the most amazingly audacious goal I have ever seen. It wasn't a punt up the park to waste time - he actually looked up and aimed for the goal. Right up there with some of the Ritchmeister's long range efforts.

Aye but big Andy would just have played keepy uppy till the final whistle! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-10 10:32:28
QUOTE(Capuan @ Mar 10 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]416675[/snapback]
As much as I feel sorry for the Gretna fans etc. this day had been coming for a long time. Gretna simply do not belong in the SPL and their relegation is the only way which may allow them to survive long-term by finding their playing level.

As all their players are up for transfer I can see Davie Irons making a few more swoops. Would I be right in saying that we can now sign their players despite the transfer window being closed?

As I understand matters, the first task of the Administrator will be to pay off any outstanding wages.

I believe that Gretna will no longer be able to honour their contract with players, who will effectively become unemployed, and presumably able to look for work elsewhere.

Having said that, this is Scottish football-not real life!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-10 12:33:26
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 10 2008, 10:40 AM) [snapback]416679[/snapback]
Ah very good. Any particular recommendations? We have arranged our accomodation for Devon in the first week and still trying to decide where we should go in Cornwall for the second week.

We were based near Polperro, HT. That coast is romantic, and almost caught in a time warp. The kids loved the Smugglers Museum.

You could browse this crowd, though it's NOT a recommendation-just happened to spot the AD!

Southwest Holiday Cottages TEL NO: (01752) 260711 YEAR 2008
mortonjag 2008-03-10 12:40:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 10 2008, 12:30 PM) [snapback]416704[/snapback]
It is not, and you don't chomp the chanter, would be bad for it wink.gif

Thank goodness for that, and before accepting your word on the chomping of chanters I intend to consult some beaver.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 12:51:57
QUOTE(Toby @ Mar 10 2008, 10:54 AM) [snapback]416688[/snapback]
Mortonjag,

I really can't understand you. For all the slggings we both take onthis board, we're both pretty subborn with our beliefs and convictions yet you aren't prepared to stand up and do something about it. Being resigned to failure without even trying is not something I'd ever have expected from you, for all we don't know each other personally.

I might be a drunk, ned, boo-boy etc. but at least I'm willing to stand up for what I think is right. To be honest, any boo-boy who isn't prepeared to say his piece at this is worse than every happy clapper put together by not taking this opportunity.

You are 100% correct Toby, and if I were just a 'boo boy' I'd probably be right up there with you.

I'd prefer to describe myself as an 'old campaigner' who has learned through previous experience that some 'battles' are best avoided.

I do respect your decision, and I support your democratic right to 'boo'. Perhaps you will now accord me the same kind of courtesy.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 13:01:35
QUOTE(cmdc @ Mar 10 2008, 12:14 PM) [snapback]416701[/snapback]
I didn't think McLaughlin had a particularly bad game. In fact, for the first 45 I thought he was pretty good!

I think Saturday will have been useful, because I think it will give Irons a clear indication of just how much work he has on his hands to push on up the league. I'm certain he has come here believing he can challenge for the title sooner rather than later, so it might be a good yardstick for him.

Scott is a player who was part of the backbone of our successful promotion winning side-he puts in a helluva lot of effort, much of which goes unnoticed.

What angers me a bit about recent criticisms is that he'd never claim to be an attacking or creative midfielder, unlike some of our more recent and fashionable acquirements who undoubtedly would, and don't.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 13:06:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 10 2008, 12:42 PM) [snapback]416711[/snapback]
Whats the rules regarding players in clubs in administration? Aren't they still under contract to the club?

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Can ye no read son?

Are you at the wind up?
mortonjag 2008-03-10 13:09:25
QUOTE(cmdc @ Mar 10 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]416714[/snapback]
Noticed in the Tele, Irons saying that there was poor decision making for the first two goals...and continuing that decision making is the difference between good and average players... Quite strong stuff!

Well, I suppose all he's really saying is that second division quality players can't be expected to read the game like a Beckenbauer!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 13:11:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 10 2008, 12:41 PM) [snapback]416710[/snapback]
Beavers know nothing about blowing wood!

Precisely-they are chompers.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 13:27:26
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 10 2008, 12:33 PM) [snapback]416707[/snapback]
Aye but remember he was aiming at an empty net with no real threat around him.

Good goal but not special.



I couldn't agree more-don't know what all the fuss is about!!!


I can still hit the bull with a 20ml syringe full of insulin from fifteen yards with both eyes closed, a rash on my Willy, and the Monkey playing 'God save King Shoogly' on his keyboards.

AND I've retired.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 13:36:22 is at Broadwood-k.o. 7.45 p.m.


I hate that miserable piece of exposed waste ground, and it will probably be effin Baltic, but there's NO WAY we'll come home without three points.


Anybody else going BTW?
mortonjag 2008-03-10 13:40:12
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 10 2008, 01:31 PM) [snapback]416724[/snapback]
was it directly to him tho?

No, of course not Bryan it was e-mailed to the club on the link they provide for further discussion of any topic. I read that in good faith.

Mind you I DO know of a FAR more important e-mail which was sent to him last summer, and which he apparently did not receive-but that's a different story! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-10 13:43:58
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Mar 10 2008, 01:42 PM) [snapback]416728[/snapback]
Apparently it's just you.

Free pies for the monkey then!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 13:56:46
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 10 2008, 01:37 PM) [snapback]416726[/snapback]
My Dad away back in the 70's found a coin in a burn down by Ayr when he was working.

It's a BawBee from 1800's. It was minted for the 100th anniversay of Robert Burns.

Not looking to sell it, just interested in its history

Anyone got idea how to find out

E-mail the Hunterian Museum at Glasgow University Sean-they have a huge collection of Scottish coinage from the Romans right through.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 14:00:13
QUOTE(franco @ Mar 10 2008, 01:49 PM) [snapback]416734[/snapback]
Right, you and puggsy get down to parklea with a ball and see if you can even kick it 75 yards never mind get it in the goal. Wonderfull goal!

Don't be silly franco-it was such an obvious mistake-----he just thought-'I'm going to punt this ball as far out of here as possible'-truth is he was trying to put it over the stand and miscued.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 14:05:00
QUOTE(tontric @ Mar 10 2008, 01:47 PM) [snapback]416733[/snapback]
I realise midweek games can be difficult for some people to get to but I'd hope that anyone that can go will do. If ever the club needed our support it's for this game.

My prediction is that it will be a score draw. Hope I'm wrong and we come away with all three points but I can't see it.

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Don't be so pessimistic-we even beat them last time at scapa-just before the players gave JM his going away present at full time.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 14:11:55
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 10 2008, 02:06 PM) [snapback]416741[/snapback]
slough of despond

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That's a cruel over statement-you Inverclyde wallahs don't know you're living-I could take you through some Malls up here which would open your eyes.

Top recommendation at the moment is Parkhead Forge where wheelchairs and mobility scooters compete in the daily dodgem derby, forcing disabled folk to look sharpish.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 14:18:08
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Mar 10 2008, 02:13 PM) [snapback]416746[/snapback]
Livingston FC owner Flynn faces fury as call centres close down
John Bynorth Home Affairs Editor

Comment
THE OWNER of Livingston Football Club has sparked outrage after shutting three call centres with the loss of 108 jobs created with around £2.2 million of Irish government subsidies.

Pearse Flynn's Contact4 financial services sales firm last month ordered staff to leave their desks with only 10 minutes' notice and made a further 24 workers redundant at a centre in Campbeltown, Argyll. Sacked former staff met yesterday to discuss how to get around £2500 on average in wages that are owed to each individual after the company failed to put the money into their accounts as promised on Friday.

And Flynn's Glasgow-based organisation is facing demands to repay the huge outlay used to fund the businesses which were open for less than four years.

Manager Imelda McGrattan, who was sacked with 39 other employees from her centre in Dingle, County Kerry, told the Sunday Herald: "We were called to a conference call from the headquarters at 3pm, at which we thought we would discuss our sales targets.

"Instead we were read a statement asking us to brief the staff to leave the building immediately and post the keys back. There's a lot of anger."

Other jobs were lost on the island of Achill in County Mayo and Gweedore, County Dongegal.

The firms exploited legislation which prevents sales organisations from cold calling in the UK to sell products by being based in Ireland. It offered potential customers the chance to clear their debts by offering a range of financial products under the names of Credit Fix and Contact4.

Councillor Michael Holmes said the closure of Achill had "a terrible effect on the community". Cork-born Flynn, 44, a former Celtic shareholder, led the Lionheart consortium that bought Livingston, then a Premier League club, in 2005. But the club was relegated and speculation last week suggested he is preparing to sell it for £600,000.
He could not be reached for comment.

It's well known that Flynn's been trying to offload Livvy.

Just another of footballs genuine guys!!!!!!!!!
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mortonjag 2008-03-10 14:27:50
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Mar 10 2008, 02:19 PM) [snapback]416749[/snapback]
Thursday, 31 May, 2001, 18:59 GMT 19:59 UK
Morton players shown the door
Morton has sacked their entire playing staff as the beleaguered club plummet to new depths of financial desperation.
The drastic move was confirmed by administrator for the Greenock outfit, Graham Martin, of Kroll, Buchler, Phillips.

The cash-strapped club has been in administration since December and donations from the fans' fighting fund have helped keep it alive in the intervening months.

Morton's miserable season ended with a drop to Division Two and, with match schedules for next season due to be sent out to clubs on 21 June, there must now be a major doubt over the club's continued existence.

Caretaker manager Ally Maxwell has also been made redundant and he fears the worst for the club.

Morton Football Club has a great tradition in Scottish history and I don't want them to be the next since Third Lanark to go under," said the former Rangers goalkeeper.

He added: "Obviously I feel sorry for supporters, I feel sorry for the players and everyone at the club because their efforts to save this club have been fantastic.

"But it's not just the players who it affects -- it's the families as well and it's very, very sad.

Earlier this month a group of local businessmen, in association with Morton Supporters' Trust, offered £300,000 for the club and the ramshackle Cappielow stadium, a bid which has since been increased.




Is this a 'Compare and contrast' exercise?

Possibly a good thread in there somewhere.

The current viability of GMFC is down to one man's passion-for that I thank Douglas Rae.

Mileson has always been a 'freak' in my eyes-I've never trusted guys in their late fifties with long hair, cowboy boots, and tales of 'Born Again' Christianity.

Not even when they've only been looking for a 'sick note'.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 14:40:32 QUOTE
A statement from the club read: "In 2003, Brooks Mileson became the owner of Gretna Football Club.

"His financing has enabled the club to achieve unprecedented success in Scottish football.

"However, due to ill heath, he is currently not in a position to facilitate further funding.

"Following a board meeting on 7 March, the directors passed a resolution to place the club into administration and a formal notice of intention was filed in the Court of Session in Edinburgh this morning.

"We anticipate that administrators will be appointed in the next few days."



cough, cough,

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Gangrene has finally f*cked his signing fingers! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-10 14:50:17
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Mar 10 2008, 02:36 PM) [snapback]416756[/snapback]
Get in touch with a ship chartering or broking agent. Most will only deal with commercial shipping rather than cruising but you never know.

Watch though, Pan T Liners in Newcastle have just gone down. Apparently that's who Gretna FC had used to pre-book their world cruise after winning this years SPL.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 14:52:24
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 10 2008, 02:42 PM) [snapback]416759[/snapback]
Thanks, appreciated. I'll get the wife on to it!

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I can see you're the sort of chap who knows how to enjoy his leisure time!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 14:56:04
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 10 2008, 02:44 PM) [snapback]416760[/snapback]
Do they get an unfair advantage in having an artificial pitch? Or do you think they are the best team you have seen in the league?

They undoubtedly have an advantage on that plastic play pen, but Reid deserves credit too. He seems to have the ability to get his side working as a unit almost 100% of the time, and they are ruthless to the point of being cynical cluggers at times.

Maybe we could learn from their cynical cluggery!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 15:31:53
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 10 2008, 03:09 PM) [snapback]416768[/snapback]
They go down everynight rolleyes.gif well if your lucky

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mortonjag 2008-03-10 15:45:24 they can sure as hell turn your 5 year old blond daughter into a 67 year old grey haired serial killer!

Indeed Yoda, and I have perfected the opposite-tonight I'll be skipping off to the Brownies as Griselda.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 15:47:39
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 10 2008, 03:42 PM) [snapback]416773[/snapback]
I wouldn't even bother contacting B.I.N. Liners, they're rubbish.

...and I gather I. Liners have been blacked.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 15:50:40
QUOTE(dj-ton @ Mar 10 2008, 10:48 AM) [snapback]416683[/snapback]
if you wanna top it up for him(if u feeling flush) its 0845 412 5000

work for them unfortunatly!!! sad.gif

WORKED!

Yer fired! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-10 16:04:01
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Mar 10 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]416777[/snapback]
the Hunterian Museum still sell Coulter's Candy aswell....

apparently not M4RKO!



Coulters Candy, also known as "Alie Balie" is a Scottish folk song originating from Glasgow.

It was written by Robert Coltard (died 1890) as kind of advertising jingle. The aniseed-flavoured candy was manufactured in Melrose. Unfortunately the recipe for this children's delight died with him, but the song lived on. In 1958 a letter in "The Weekly Scotsman" reported that a man remebered hearing it from his grandmother, who in turn had learned the song about 1845. It was collected in a children's playground in 1964 by James T. Ritche's. He published it in a book called "The Singing Street". Presumably the original version would have been "Coltard's Candy". It was recorded by Donovan on "HMS Donovan" (1971). Hamish Imlach recorded a parody version, where a buyer complains about the poor quality of the candy. Ray Fisher notes that it has become a lullaby. The word Bawbee is old currency - a silver sixpence. Alexander Orrok of Sillebawby was a 16th-century head of the Scottish Mint. The coin went out of circulation in 1707 but the word lived on, used to refer to a bronze halfpenny.


Ally, bally, ally bally bee,
Sittin' on yer mammy's knee
Greetin' for anither bawbee,
Tae buy mair Coulter's candy.

Ally. bally, ally, bally bee,
When you grow up you'll go to sea,
Makin' pennies for your daddy and me,
Tae buy mair Coulter's Candy.

Mammy gie me ma thrifty doon
Here's auld Coulter comin' roon
Wi' a basket on his croon
Selling Coulter's Candy.

Little Annie's greetin' tae
Sae whit can puir wee Mammy dae
But gie them a penny atween them twae
Tae buy mair Coulter's Candy.

Poor wee Jeannie's lookin' affa thin,
A rickle o' banes covered ower wi' skin,
Noo she's gettin' a double chin
Wi' sookin' Coulter's Candy
mortonjag 2008-03-10 16:12:19
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Mar 10 2008, 04:03 PM) [snapback]416781[/snapback]
I find it quite ridiculous that some people wish another human being dead. And disrespectful comments of "dancing on her grave" etc I find really repulsive. Isn't it ironic that a lot of the posts on this topic blame Thatcher for some sort of breakdown of society yet we have vociferous calls for her demise?! Some people need to take a good look at themselves.

I couldn't give two hoots about Thatcher, Blair, Salmond or any other self serving and self interested politician but I would never take glee in their ill health or death.

You miserable b@st@rds.

Could this be a subtle re-introduction of the 'Capital Punishment' thread?

I wish everybody could live happily ever after-nobody should be allowed to die-it's very cruel-in fact I'd go as far as to suggest it's UNNATURAL!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 16:16:29
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 10 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]416783[/snapback]
I like the wee Govan shopping centre biggrin.gif

I (very) briefly worked in Drumchapel as well, more closed down shops than open ones.

Clydebank is another choice spot, where for some reason half the tables in the Asda Restaurant hold unfinished plates of chips smothered in tomato sauce.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 16:18:40
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 10 2008, 04:14 PM) [snapback]416786[/snapback]
Nothing to do with insomnia but i have started the whole pishing a few times a night routine. The regularity of the said pishes are worryingly monotonous.

Trying to convince myself it's because I'm drinking too much tea and juice - in the vain hope I can postpone the inevitable finger up the cadbury canal from some doctor who's got an index finger like a baby elephants back leg.

TonInDublin

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Try tying a knot in yer tadger!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 16:26:56
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 10 2008, 04:22 PM) [snapback]416796[/snapback]
Been there, tried that MJ.

Even tried to convince myself one night that I didn't really need a wazz at all, held on for what felt like hours - probably causing major kidney damage before sprinting to the jacks and unleashing a high pressure flow that wouldn't have been stopped with a jubilee clip.

I'd be too scared to get the old bangle tampered with in case the f***er does find something wrong. Strange logic I know.

TonInDublin

You could always ask for a PSA blood test-they're notoriously fickle but if your prostate's doing anything nasty it would certainly not be normal.

Are you unduly thirsty perchance?
mortonjag 2008-03-10 16:28:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 10 2008, 04:27 PM) [snapback]416801[/snapback]
I always aim for the 8 hours. Don't drink coffee or tea anyway but at night will only drink caffeine free soft drinks. Also started taking sleeping pills as was having to go in to uni like a "hawf shut knife" sometimes due to sleeping normally at the weekend then suddenly needing to get up at 6.15am.

Basically at the end of the day I find if I don't alter my sleep pattern much I generally have no problem getting my 8 hours.

WHAT?
mortonjag 2008-03-10 16:35:28
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 10 2008, 04:32 PM) [snapback]416807[/snapback]
Not thirsty persay MJ. In an average day I would drink about two cups of coffee at work and one 500ml bottle of Diet Coke. I'd have a cup of tea at night time and I'm a wh*re for drinking Pepsi Max - easily a litre of that at night - but it's more habit than thirst !

TonInDublin

Thirst and much pissing together often indicate diabetes. You seem a bit young for a prostatic problem, but if you're worried don't ignore your symptoms. You could always ask for a lady doctor with delicate fingers! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-10 17:32:17
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 10 2008, 04:38 PM) [snapback]416815[/snapback]
And that's where it gets overly complicated - whilst I have no desire for some ape of a male doctor to finger my flake flume, I have even less desire to display my hairy hole to some good looking young one and invite her to guess what I had for breakfast.

TonInDublin

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There's just a possibility you might be able to con them into the Practice Nurse taking a blood sample for PSA first.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 17:35:42
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 10 2008, 04:40 PM) [snapback]416817[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-03-10 17:47:55
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 10 2008, 05:44 PM) [snapback]416851[/snapback]
Feel sorry for those who lost their jobs and especially those who are owed money .

Flynn is a spiv . Another white collar shyster .

Another non Scot f*cking up a Scottish team too!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 21:41:33
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 10 2008, 07:15 PM) [snapback]416897[/snapback]
Didn't say that. Rather I wondered about going back to the pre '71 state where junkies were given heroin rather than methadone. If there's one thing that's certain it's that the current regime ain't working. Mibbies regular state controlled heroin was the correct route.
Honest tae gawd Edwards first homophobia and now laise Faire capitalism.
You'll be down the Wanderers next. ohmy.gif
Excellent
She's to be buried at sea. laugh.gif

The Viking thinks he can walk on water.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 21:47:15 Gentlemen-on the specific issue of 'junkies', it may have escaped your notice that the problem cuts right across society, and has no respect for social standing or political allegiance.

Mind you, the rich junkies can usually still afford their own houses-well for a fairly lengthy period anyway.

One other point-I have found from experience that rehabilitation is singularly ineffective in the huge majority of cases for the simple reason that the the addict ultimately goes back to exactly whence he came, and the whole process is inevitably re-kindled.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 21:50:35
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 10 2008, 09:47 PM) [snapback]416953[/snapback]
Got a bit bored and done an online onet: here

Let's see how I fare compared against you lot


Dear Mick McMenemie,

Thank you for your interest in the test at IQTest.com.

Your general IQ score is: 127

If ever proof was required that I.Q. and education do not inevitably co-relate.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 21:57:42
QUOTE(tom @ Mar 10 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]416881[/snapback]
Pearse has lived in Scotland for around 25 years. He has a Scottish wife and kids. Spiv he's not. I don't know the business issues relating to the call centre closures, but it's a shame for the folk who lose their jobs as a result. I've never understood why he bothered with Livingston in the first place.

Well I guess that's entirely down to how you define 'spiv'.

I'd probably describe a friend of Pearce's ilk as 'entrepreneurial'!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 22:05:00
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 10 2008, 09:03 PM) [snapback]416932[/snapback]
Two things:

1) Graeme Muir said that Gretna would have got to the SPL without Brookson's cash. Surely this was his chance to prove it?

2) If Skelton, Innes and Fleming are as mince as Jenkins and McGuffie then no thanks.

Neither Jenkins nor McGuffie is 'mince'.

Give them a little time-FFS JM's just 'oot the door' and the infection still lingers.

mortonjag 2008-03-10 22:12:32
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 10 2008, 09:18 PM) [snapback]416940[/snapback]
Toby, thats just it, i wouldn't kick up a stink if there was something i wasn't happy with. I've had my time of being considered a 'Boo Boy' and its tiresome feeling like a pariah at some happy-clappy glee club. There are things about Morton which i dont like, but it will never change, Morton and Progress are two words that dont go together, and one of the things that hold Morton back is the supporters willingness to accept and defend failure.
First point, as i stated before DDFR is a smoothy, dont be fooled by the dottery old man act, he is sharper than a swiss army knife. He is a showman, a salesman and a wide-o who knows how to bodyswerve the tough questions and he can quip a soundbite which will rouse the moron cry of "Dwoogie! Dwoogie!" drowning out any valid point you may wish to make, and there will be plenty of sycophants only to willing to heckle you if you were to get the better of him.

If there is nothing else happening in my life that night, I may pop along. Only as a mere observer, mind. rolleyes.gif

Correct!

Very perceptive, and EXACTLY the reason why the February show was cancelled.

...and his minions DO bear the little messages from OUR forum, and the old dodder fly old bugger is raging because he can't do a bloody thing about us except whine in the Shoogly Peg notes!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 22:18:21
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Mar 10 2008, 10:16 PM) [snapback]416965[/snapback]
You know for a fact that's exactly why the February show was cancelled? Are you in contact with Mr Rae please tell us more....

Probably not in as close contact as you-I don't fancy trying the taste of Shooglesh*t
mortonjag 2008-03-10 22:30:16
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Mar 10 2008, 10:19 PM) [snapback]416968[/snapback]
so we'll take that as a resounding no then...

Good for youse-are youse very many-an arse can surely only accept a couple of tongues at once.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 22:31:47
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 10 2008, 10:19 PM) [snapback]416969[/snapback]
Maybe the star of the show didn't want to go to that event either. Which makes me think your non-appearance next wednesday may throw this event into jeopardy.

Nobody is really going there to see DDFR, Davie Irons or Derek Collins, they are there to see MortonJag.

Why dont you just attend, your audience awaits you.....

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Mortonjag has much to answer for.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 22:35:04
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 10 2008, 09:54 PM) [snapback]416957[/snapback]
Or proof no-one cares about grammar when they're just fannying about online

Indeed!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 22:40:42
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 10 2008, 10:21 PM) [snapback]416971[/snapback]
In reply to your first I'd say that usually the Toffs can afford to buy their own junk without having to mug Grannies. And they can also afford to check in to the Betty Ford clinic when they tire of their habit. Your second concerns me more. Perhaps the success rate would improve if the recovering addicts were put to work rather than left to fester on state handouts.

That would certainly be a step in the right direction DE, but is pretty well impracticable as things stand. Truth is that 'rehab' is largely a man made myth, and as I stated addicts simply return to the environment where they 'belong'.

I'm afraid we have to be thinking in terms of prevention rather than cure, and haven't a clue how to go about that.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 22:45:58
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 10 2008, 10:33 PM) [snapback]416979[/snapback]
in all fairness to Mortonjag, i dont think he's a s***ebag. Lets face it, its not as though DDFR would get decked out in Burberry and bushwhack him at the train station is it?

However, Mortonjag doesnt want to give DDFR the right to reply,
but he'll want to continue to indulge in his relentless criticism of him. 16,000 times over.

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He has the f*cking monopoly of a tame Tilly, his matchday programme, and that bloody microphone.

Are you there Shoogly?

Shoogly-speak to me

Shoogly-are you in the huff again?

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mortonjag 2008-03-10 22:48:36
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Mar 10 2008, 10:09 PM) [snapback]416962[/snapback]
1) We all know he's talking rubbush, but he's there to put a positive spin on things. Let him play his games.....he'll be out of a job soon enough

2) Not the kind of comments we need you fool

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How many of you does it take to spot one of your fellows? mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-10 22:51:07
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Mar 10 2008, 10:22 PM) [snapback]416972[/snapback]
I am sure that Tonsilitis will give a more definitive and authoritative view but as I understand it HMRCE are ranked equally with all other creditors and are not afforded preferential treatment. Given that the majority of debt is owed to Milesons insurance company it would be unlikely that other creditors would get very much from administration and/or liquidation.

Over and above the usual administration laws, the SFA/SPL/SFL will insist on the "football debt" being met if the club is to continue as a going concern. This means that monies owed for players contracts etc will have to be met in full. I am unclear as to the legality of such a move but the holy triumverate seem to be above the laws in these matters.

Alibi - having seen the table with the skunks at the bottom if gretna's contribution is eliminated I would have to urge you to go for it as well - I feel wrong and dirty for suggesting such a thing but somehow paradoxically it seems so right and almost poetical...

Self perception-eh! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-10 22:52:57
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 10 2008, 10:38 PM) [snapback]416981[/snapback]
Well if you're right they must have changed the law. I was owed money by an insolvent company back in 1993, the Tax and Vat men were preferential creditors and took all that was left. That was a sore one.

Outstanding wages come first and foremost-the revenue and excise get in next-after that it's a free for all!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 22:56:25
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 10 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]416989[/snapback]
Dear forza ton,

Thank you for your interest in the test at IQTest.com.

Your general IQ score is: 135

hmm. the highest i ever got was 151 the lowest 110. i think all this shows is how good you are at the particular test.

clinically i think they can be useful in determining a learning disability but other than that i think they're pretty useless.
and i get all uptight doing them cos i hate going against the clock *lights another cig*

They do prove something forza-only those who score highly ever seem to admit to having done them!


I was apparently very good at them in my schooldays, but I don't trust those new fangled ones.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 22:58:45
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 10 2008, 10:46 PM) [snapback]416985[/snapback]
Aw, feck it then. Top the lot of them. laugh.gif

By humane INJECTION! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-10 23:12:18
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 10 2008, 11:00 PM) [snapback]416999[/snapback]
I read a very interesting article in New Scientist with some guy saying Beckham was smarter than Einstein. Went through a whole heap of mumbo-jumbo but it boiled down to Beckham can look at a ball and look at a goal and the five defenders standing infront of him but has the ability to know instantly where to kick the ball, with what part of the foot and how hard for it to go in the goal whereas a scientist would take weeks to come up with the formula.

Obviously he was taking it to extremes to prove a point. The point being IQ tests are rubbish smile.gif

I don't agree they are 'rubbish', but they are only useful if designed properly and with a specific end-as your example demonstrates.

They certainly don't guarantee success or failure on life's journey.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 23:16:02
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Mar 10 2008, 10:53 PM) [snapback]416993[/snapback]
Nope - outstanding wages are preferential creditors these days, but the revenue is not (for any debts incurred after 2003 or 04). It's not my area of expertise though tbh - i deal with personal insolvency, not corporate.

I'm always out of date!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 23:18:08
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 10 2008, 11:00 PM) [snapback]417000[/snapback]
You really are self-important, arent you?

I'll bet Morrissey is waiting for the announcement that MortonJag will be going to the Port Town Hall.

He's gonna buy a job lot of tickets and flog them for a profit on Ebay.
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Who the f*ck is this Morrissey character?
mortonjag 2008-03-10 23:19:19
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 10 2008, 11:16 PM) [snapback]417017[/snapback]
which he will reply with 6 pages of self gratification.

Correct-and will love every minute of it CAPUTUPANUS!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 23:23:54 Dear Mortonjag,

Thank you for your interest in the test at IQtest.com

Unfortunately our software is not programmed to report results in excess of 195
mortonjag 2008-03-10 23:28:52
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Mar 10 2008, 11:24 PM) [snapback]417027[/snapback]
Mmmm.

That's just a picture of some bloke with a mike-is it the young Shoogly?
mortonjag 2008-03-10 23:33:23
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 10 2008, 11:26 PM) [snapback]417030[/snapback]
that was nice of them to tell you, so what score did they give you?

They didn't but they've offered me $500,000 p.a. to redesign the software.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 23:35:20
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 10 2008, 11:32 PM) [snapback]417037[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-03-10 23:37:43
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 10 2008, 11:34 PM) [snapback]417039[/snapback]
Are you gonna do it or crow on about it online until the chance arises in real life and s***e out?

It's already done my friend-and the cash donated to charity.

Oh and my IQ is 265
mortonjag 2008-03-10 23:43:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 10 2008, 11:36 PM) [snapback]417043[/snapback]
i hear its Golden Casket that own that website, are you willing to work for your arch nemisis?

Golden Casket have no interest in folks IQ's as long as they're daft enough to buy sweeties.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 07:50:45
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 10 2008, 11:59 PM) [snapback]417077[/snapback]
Mortonjag.

More accurately about how Mortonjag and Toby have hatched this evil plot in which the Jag goes to Q & A dressed up as Toby, while Toby, Crawford, and Alistair Donald finalise the coup, which includes torching Fort Matilda and building a state of the art Neo Cappielow over its charred carcase, courtesy of funding from the insurance company, and that huge chest nicked from under the Shooglemeister's bed.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 07:56:44
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 11 2008, 12:13 AM) [snapback]417093[/snapback]
Pearse Flynn was a high flyer at Compaq in Erskine and then went off to work in telecomms in the US/Canada where he made his millions.

A close family member of mine worked for him in Compaq and was enticed to to leave a solid pensionable job to join him when he returned and set up in Glasgow. Within a few months she was out with imho a pittance of a pay off, no where near compensation her for her lost years service at Compaq. I personally think he is a sh1t of the smelliest kind.

Further as a businessman, he's a typical salesman - all about the sales figure without worrying about how much is sticking on the bottom line!

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Turdissimus Flynn eh!

Radix malorum est cupiditas.

For Flynn read Mileson, Romanov, and YES Rae.

So long as Shoogly's interests coincide with ours we'll be OK mind you-long may that continue.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 08:03:57
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 11 2008, 07:45 AM) [snapback]417115[/snapback]
What has their inability to play at this level have to do with JM? Surely they were coached by Irons and Collins and wouldn't instantly lose skill levels overnight.
Why not? It's my opinion as an adult and don't call me a fool. Are you worried that they might read this "it might affect their confidence" (copyrite Morton forum 2008). Neither of them have deserved their wages since they joined.

I don't regard you as a fool Mr McArthur-well for most of the time anyway! wink.gif

Mind you I think it's a tad foolish to describe Jenkins and McGuffie as you have, and time will prove me correct as it inevitably does on every occasion. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-11 08:09:53
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 11 2008, 08:02 AM) [snapback]417121[/snapback]
Great plan - let's hope it's not insured by one of Mileson's companies. They may be waiting a while on the cheque.

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Don't worry Ratarse-we'd never be so improvident-this Donald guys provin' to be a real cool dude BTW-I hope he comes up Trumps.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 08:30:54
QUOTE(cappielow-doc @ Mar 11 2008, 01:01 AM) [snapback]417100[/snapback]
Cheers guys

Its actually Scottish Power i work for,Ibedrola is the mother company.My base is at Newarthill,about a mile or so behind the Honeywell plant on the M8,but im only there once or twice a month,i work in Clydebank,Dumbarton,Alexandria and Helensburgh.

Just wondered-my partner works at Cathcart! I've noticed an increasing number of Mediterranean faces coming and going in the last few months as I pick her up after a hard day's graft!
mortonjag 2008-03-11 08:32:19 Indeed-many happy returns-though you are now over half way through your Biblically allotted span!!! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-11 08:36:20
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 10 2008, 11:49 PM) [snapback]417059[/snapback]
so only daft people buy sweeties?

im telling my mum that you called her stupid!!

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There are sweeties and sweeties! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-11 08:41:21 "I think the major point is that priests who are hearing confessions are not sufficiently attuned to some of the real evils in our world,


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mortonjag 2008-03-11 08:44:43
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 11 2008, 08:29 AM) [snapback]417124[/snapback]
Sanityclause - I doubt very much whether my condition is cause through anxiety, If I'm honest not a lot of things particularly bother me in such ways that I find myself worrying about them for hours on end or lying in bed awake worrying about them.
I spoke yesterday with a pharmacists who seemed to know what she was talking about, she asked me loads of questions to which I gave honest answers, I've to go back in tomorrow and get a few tests done just to rule out stuff like diabetes (which I think could be a distinct possibility). She reckons she knows the problem and I will be sleeping right through in no time.
I will though do like you said, when I awake during the night get up and do things like Ironing and washing up and let you know if it does indeed help.

Well done Jim-when do you repay the £10,000 loan? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif



Naw-seriously-good luck!
mortonjag 2008-03-11 08:46:19
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 11 2008, 08:42 AM) [snapback]417132[/snapback]
drug consumption? what about altar wine?
anyway these are subject to change. they took wanking off the list about 10 year ago.

Wanking of all varieties?
mortonjag 2008-03-11 08:52:28
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 11 2008, 08:44 AM) [snapback]417133[/snapback]
A question (actually many questions) here for Tonsilitis and any others who work in the accountancy/insolvency fields

Gretna are currently unable to trade their way out of their current overdrawn position - their income stream is gate money from Fir Park, plus maybe any money paid to them by the SPL as an advance on their end-of-season payout.

Where there is no prospect of them turning it round (and that seems obvious unless they can increase their gates a lot) they are simply increasing their debts by continuing - in that situation are they not "wrongly trading" as my accountant called it, trading insolvently as I thought it was called? Also, if there is income coming in (gate money, SPL money), can I stop that getting to them and insist that it is directed to the creditors? I think the SPL are hoping to sweep this under the carpet by assisting them to limp through until May when it becomes an SFL problem. The SPL would be very embarrassed by an SPL club folding mid-season. Personally I would like to see that as it would bring a lot into the open and would get far more media coverage than after Gretna are relegated, when the media will cease to care.

How do I go about liquidating them now, given that the administrators will probably be appointed tomorrow? And in the event of liquidation, I assume the current assets go to creditors? In which case it seems a better deal than administration where they will reduce their assets by the time they are liquidated. Do administrators have a duty of care to the creditors? Are they required to stop any reduction in net assets over the period of administration? Do they have to look at the books and say "nae chance" if that is the way it looks, and pull the plug there and then, or are they allowed to run the business into the ground even though that worsens the position of creditors?

Alibi-I know very little about insolvency but I do recognise the widespread ramifications of Mileson's impeachable and criminal behaviour. I suggest that you report even the slightest irregularity in any financial dealings directly to the Revenue/Excise-he may think he can just walk away from the Gretna mess, but IMHO that's the tip of an iceberg.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 08:53:44
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 11 2008, 08:51 AM) [snapback]417141[/snapback]
This illustrates the wonderful madness of this forum. Irons is the guy who has been coaching Jenkins and McGuffie with the exception of about 5 weeks and now he needs time to sort it out. Fantastic, you couldn't make some of this stuff up!!

Don't be a silly Billy-never heard of 'horses for courses'-give them time to adjust to the new environment!
mortonjag 2008-03-11 08:59:10
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 11 2008, 08:49 AM) [snapback]417139[/snapback]
Brooks Mileson claims to be a born again Christian. I think that says much that needs to be said about religion.

Matthew 25:29

"For to everyone who has, more shall be given, and he will have an abundance; but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away.

I don't think he bothered reading past that!!!

GO GET THE C*NT!
mortonjag 2008-03-11 09:04:12
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 11 2008, 08:59 AM) [snapback]417146[/snapback]
163.

The average or possibly median is supposed to be 100 - the tests are designed that way so that 50% of the poulation are higher and 50% lower than 100 (apart from the percentage who are spot on 100 but you know what I mean). I used to do these tests quite a lot and I concluded that if you practise, your score can increase, which suggests the tests are imperfect in function.

We all have different abilities. For example on Countdown I can usually do the numbers but I'm hopeless at getting big words. I assume it's because I have a mathematical-biased brain but not so good with juggling letters in my head. Although I did once get a 7 letter word at the start of a Scrabble game.

I refuse to do the test Alibi, cos I'd be really really upset if somebody beat me!

I'm equally good at the numbers and words on Countdown, but I can't draw a poosy cat for the life of me, and every attempt to play golf has been an abject disaster.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 09:06:58
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 11 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]417149[/snapback]
Davie, I know they have played under Irons - my point is that they are in a different team now, and it's the rest of the team that has to be coached in playing passing football instead of panicking and hoofing it up the park.

Both Jenkins and McGuffie got MoTM awards in their final games atGretna, and against the OF. That suggests they can do it. If coming to Morton automatically makes decent players cr4p, then we have a problem...

Hmm, I think we may have a problem.

Indeed we do-the sleeping sickness which infected the squad under JM is taking a while to wear off.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 09:08:46
QUOTE(stubaws @ Mar 11 2008, 09:01 AM) [snapback]417148[/snapback]
according to bbc there's a group of italians wanting to buy the club - fingers crossed its the bonetti's tongue.gif

Are not all mafioso the same?
mortonjag 2008-03-11 09:10:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 11 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]417152[/snapback]
An Italian footballing priest has been reportedly sent off in a church tournament for throwing his shirt at the referee.

The incident, reminiscent of Antonio Cassano's red card for Sampdoria last weekend, happened in the Clericus Cup with the actions of the Burkina Faso priest leading to Paul the Apostle's College being eliminated.

In a memorable day for Italian amateur football, the president of minor league club Doria has decided to pull his side out of the championship, the division below Serie C, because of anger at refereeing decisions.

"We are retiring the team," Franco De Rose told Italy's ANSA news service. "We are tired of having to submit to injustices every Sunday."
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HOLY s***!
mortonjag 2008-03-11 09:44:52
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 11 2008, 09:16 AM) [snapback]417157[/snapback]
I'm s*** hot at the numbers game on countdown. I even got one right when Carol couldn't get it.

s***e at the letters round apart from the conundrum which I'm good at.

Which is strange as I was a lot better at English than maths at school. I know there's a big difference between Countdown and algorithms and the like but still perplexes me.

It's just a learned technique-there was a spell when I watched Countdown for a couple of months and by the end I was beating her quite often, but I've tuned in a couple of times recently and I've got 'rusty'.

There does seem to be a specific mental orientation which helps some folks to see conundrums (anagrams actually) quicker than others-it's more of a perceptive skill than the constructive one which is required for forming words from 'random' letters.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 09:51:47 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


I like the bit about changing the laws so that anybody can shag Plinth Chas's boyfriend with impunity.

We need some scandal about Brown very soon-he is a sanctimonious serpent of the devil.

I bet HE shags wee boys up the arse and a dark close.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 10:53:36
QUOTE(tontastic @ Mar 11 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]417167[/snapback]
138 ... with a few guesses cos i've no idea what congruent means ...

Anagram of

GRENUC TON
mortonjag 2008-03-11 10:59:51 I think you need to make as much noise as possible right now, including a personal letter to Gordon Smith.

The SFA is still supposed to be the governing body in Scottish Football, and this is one issue where I believe he should be seen to justify his £160,000 p.a. salary, rather than passing matters back down the line.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 11:31:49
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 11 2008, 11:29 AM) [snapback]417189[/snapback]
What happens if the kids refuse ?

They will get their little pink botties skelped.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 11:33:55
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 11 2008, 11:30 AM) [snapback]417190[/snapback]
exactly. I don't think its even got to white paper level yet. Hopefully it will die a quick death, although it would give eck an intersting quandry given his pro-royal tendencies. How will he want to support his favourite member of the royal family?

Bawheid is a ROYALIST?


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mortonjag 2008-03-11 11:43:24
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 11 2008, 11:41 AM) [snapback]417195[/snapback]
Good idea MJ. I will do that. Is he based at Hampden now or is it Park Gardens?

Anyone know who the contact point is at the SFL? Chief Executive, that sort of thing?

SFA, Hampden Park, Glasgow.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 11:50:47
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 11 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]417194[/snapback]
This ridiculous suggestion will die a quick death.

Incidentally my first wife claims she once snogged Gordon Brown at a rugby club disco in about 1972. Does that count as scandal? I always though GB was more orientated the other way. You know, sheep.


Well sheepskin jackets were all the fashion in 1972, and he'd have been using his right side for the drinking bit-easy mistake I'd guess!


He was accepted by the University of Edinburgh to study history at the age of only 16. He suffered a retinal detachment after being kicked in the head during an end-of-term rugby union match at his old school. He was left blind in his left eye,


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mortonjag 2008-03-11 15:03:36
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 11 2008, 01:30 PM) [snapback]417244[/snapback]
Aye. So, anyone going? I can't make it, would someone care to take notes and stick a post up that details the events?

OUTF*CKIN'RAGEOUS DERELICTION OF DUTY


How DARE you -- the 'embodiment' of this rag deign to blank the most important decision making event in the Morton fans' year? Rae will be laughing Fudgy Wudgy up both sleeves.

You'd better have a damned good excuse I can tell you. Mortonjag is very, very disappointed in you.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 15:10:57
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 11 2008, 02:27 PM) [snapback]417262[/snapback]
And in the accounting students terms.
...I think you might be f***ed Alibi! mellow.gif

....and in normal terms, where's the justice in that.

Mileson may be a charlatan whose maker's about to call him in, though I'd not be surprised to see him kicking around for a fair while yet.

Should he be allowed to pass away unscathed?
mortonjag 2008-03-11 15:17:50 You really believe all that Jersey stuff!
mortonjag 2008-03-11 15:25:44
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 11 2008, 03:00 PM) [snapback]417269[/snapback]
Beacause I'm a True Brit I despise all this furrin flummery- that's for lesser breeds without that law, not the stout hearted Briton in his island fastness.
With Viagra? unsure.gif

Are you implying that Bawheid's a stand up comedian?
mortonjag 2008-03-11 15:36:15
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 11 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]417234[/snapback]
think it went really well smile.gif

there might still be time yet for me to become posh and up myself. biggrin.gif

wish me luck peasants.

Good luck!


BTW which particular job in which particular Hilton. The inside of the Paris version is a real mess I'm told.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 15:44:10
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 11 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]417285[/snapback]
I agree, we should all swear at her.

I know a guy that was a cleaner in a hotel she was staying at, and after she visited the bog he had to check to make sure it was clean. And there right on the pan, was a pube. Its got to have been the queens pube as he cleaned it before she went in. So he popped it in a bag took it home and framed it.

Do you think it is against the law to keep it?

No it's not-finders keepers, but the clown should have it on E-Bay right now. Some crazy Yank will pay millions for a genuine ER 11 pube.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 15:46:48
QUOTE([color=)
GreacensGenitals'[/color] date='Mar 11 2008, 03:44 PM' post='417289']
HardingsHamstring

Will give you the money on Saturday. Cheers.

Aye-right Wake's Walloper.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 15:49:07
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 11 2008, 03:46 PM) [snapback]417290[/snapback]
I was expelled for not believing in God ... so you can never guess what some over zealous so called educated people will do .

That's why I'm blanking the forthcoming Shoogly Show!
mortonjag 2008-03-11 15:55:37 post not found
mortonjag 2008-03-11 16:03:24
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Mar 11 2008, 04:00 PM) [snapback]417295[/snapback]
Off to the game tonight but sitting looking out of my work window in Glasgow and it's honking with rain, hope to good it's not another call off 10mins from the stadium sad.gif

You's think it will be ok?

That seems to be the story of your life-get on with yer bloody work and let the game take care of itself.

It's ON and we're going to win!
mortonjag 2008-03-11 16:06:01
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 11 2008, 04:01 PM) [snapback]417296[/snapback]
Aye well I'm going to press for immediate winding up before all the assets are gone - including the £350k that is reportedly on its way from those nice people at the SPL. This weekend could be their last ever game.

Someone suggested sending in the Sheriff Officers to seize their strips. 30 minutes before kick off...... I like that idea. Strips might have historical value in a year or two.

Hmm...asset stripping, or stripping assets?
mortonjag 2008-03-11 16:09:11
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Mar 11 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]417303[/snapback]
I always thought Mileson was a good guy but I'm starting to have my doubts - he must have known that things were going pear-shaped before his illness so why were there no plans put in place? And I don't really understand how his resting from a serious illness means that he can't put money into the club any more - if he's out of hospital then surely he can approve of financial transactions? I would have also thought he would have direct debits set up to pay the players and staff wages every week?

It looks as though the whole Gretna adventure was to prove that he could take a club through the leagues but now that Gretna are no longer "sexy" and have gone as far as they can he seems to have lost interest. Very dissappointing.

Life is enriched greatly by genuine souls like yourself, even if the Milesons of this world are fatally attracted to them.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 16:12:25
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Mar 11 2008, 04:08 PM) [snapback]417305[/snapback]
If anyone's to blame it's them, sticking a window in my office! what a nerve eh! blink.gif

What was there before the window?
mortonjag 2008-03-11 16:15:19
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 11 2008, 04:03 PM) [snapback]417298[/snapback]
As long as he doesn't sniff it I'm sdure he will be fine
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDYou appear to be suggesting that her Majesty has offensive curly wurlies-or maybe you're just turned off by 'bawhair' in general.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 16:16:49
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Mar 11 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]417311[/snapback]
the Hilton just off the m8 looks ok but it has a rodent problem - seen 3 rats last time i was there, probably posh rats though! place is extortionate as well, bought 2 double vodkas and coke, charged me £18 for the privelege!

What were the rats drinking?
mortonjag 2008-03-11 16:25:06
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 8 2008, 04:41 PM) [snapback]415958[/snapback]
I read a report last year saying inner city estates in London, Manchester and Birmingham have outrageous levels of inbreeding. Because of lack of money, drug and alcohol abuse and the threat of violence if they venture outwith their own estate and the rise in single mothers/absent fathers people are sleeping with their cousins, half cousins, half-siblings and s*** without even realising they're related.

Cue the good people of Norfolk slagging off Londoners for being inbred..

They are afraid of violence if they venture outwith their own estate-hence the indiscriminate shag fest?


Could they not ask for police protection? I really feel for those souls-it's not right that they should have to shag any old Tom Dick or Hairy-is it?
mortonjag 2008-03-11 16:27:05
QUOTE(Lindberg6 @ Mar 11 2008, 04:23 PM) [snapback]417318[/snapback]
bouncing in Glasgow at the moment....and I see the Jags game at firhill has been called off.

I phoned Clyde about 15 mins ago and when I asked if the game was in any doubt I was told 'no, pitch is perfect'........by a woman who had obviously not completed her 'Telephone Manner' course...!

That would be the groundswummin.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 16:28:06
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 11 2008, 04:22 PM) [snapback]417316[/snapback]
Thistle game v Stirling has been called off though

Cos it doubles as a rugby pitch and gets mashed to f*ck Puggs.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 17:44:54
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Mar 11 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]417326[/snapback]
I'm not a remotely naive and gullible person - I'm very skeptical most of the time. I always thought that what Mileson was doing was misguided and pretty pointless but I didn't think he'd bail out like this when the going got tough.

Well I guess we'll never really know what motivated Mileson. He's been described in today's papers by one of the Gretna execs as an 'experienced accountant'. Now I don't know if he's suggesting that Pony Tail has formal accountancy qualifications, but if he has the whole charade is more criminal than ever.

How could an apparently sane person with assets reportedly to the tune of some £70 million believe that a village with a population of 2,700 could maintain a viable SFL, let alone SPL club?

More importantly, how long did he imagine his 70 million was going to last, if he indeed intended to bankroll them 'for ever'.

At my most generous, I can excuse him for a crazy error of judgement, but he's had plenty of time to bring Gretna back down to earth gently. Instead he's just let them go to the dogs.

For that he deserves everything that's being flung at him.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 17:51:09
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 11 2008, 04:27 PM) [snapback]417321[/snapback]
Well it's been all over the news so aye

That's a shame-are you embarrassed?
mortonjag 2008-03-11 17:52:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 11 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]417315[/snapback]
I think if I saw her muff I would be offended!

Then you have done well to avoid gynaecology, young man!
mortonjag 2008-03-11 17:53:53
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 11 2008, 04:27 PM) [snapback]417322[/snapback]
With the long line of kiss and tells about Diana , is that why there is so much prison overcrowding ??

Guess thats why she was called the peoples princess cool.gif
Seriously a democratic country trying to force children to pay homage to an unelected , archaic sovereign .

Wouldn't it be more apt to show allegiance to the Stars and Strips of the US . We are afterall the 51st state.

dry.gif mad.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-11 17:56:30
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Mar 11 2008, 05:30 PM) [snapback]417346[/snapback]
Tourists interested in Scottish Power tongue.gif

No doubt having been mailed the brochure by Bannock Baws!
mortonjag 2008-03-11 17:59:02
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 11 2008, 05:40 PM) [snapback]417351[/snapback]
I worked in the Glasgow Hilton back in 1998 for around 6 weeks, what was your interview for?

The kitchens were immaculate, and they were a decent bunch to work with.

Good Luck.

smile.gif

How much did kitchen porters get paid in those days Caputupanus? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-11 18:15:09
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 11 2008, 06:04 PM) [snapback]417361[/snapback]
It was a no brainer!

Have you always been better at COUNTING?
mortonjag 2008-03-11 18:56:21
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 11 2008, 06:45 PM) [snapback]417371[/snapback]
More than many Commis Chefs, which if i remember right was around £8k/a back then. sad.gif

Kitchen Porters are grafters, a lot of those guys are worth their weight in gold. The same could probably be said about Hospital Porters, who get all the dirty jobs and heavy lifting to do.

No shame to them, i'm not a career snob. smile.gif

No shame to them indeed-one of my most enjoyable memories was working as a theatre porter in the old Pishley RAI. Great guys, and great laughs. My friend Rab works as a kitchen porter-wasn't his career choice-but it's what life has landed him with-and he really enjoys the work. Mind you he does get treated like s*** by the aspirant Gordon effin' Ramsays.

Anyway-must rush off to this game!!
mortonjag 2008-03-11 22:35:27 ...or time to be patient?


Bitterly disappointed not to have taken three points tonight. IMO this was THE game which could have made the rest of the season more comfortable, and we've come home with 'nothing changed'.

When JM left, Rae was quick to regret that this is a results driven business. In that respect nothing has changed. Every excuse under the sun can be wheeled out, but tonight Irons failed us.

Sure, those are early days, and I still give my support to the new management, but facts are chiels that winna ding, and the fact is we have four points from a possible twelve.

Hardly inspiring stuff.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 22:54:45
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Mar 11 2008, 09:43 PM) [snapback]417574[/snapback]
Melatonin 3mg for a few nights until you get back into a sleep routine. It doesn't make you drowsy either when you take it or throughout the day. It induces a natural sleep and you wake when light appears, refreshed. I found this when my friends' child who has Aspergers and wouldn't sleep was prescribed it at 3yrs old. It is also being introduced to Old folks homes here so that the patients aren't groggy during the day. You can only get it here on special prescription but is freely available in the USA both in drugstores and health food stores. You can also get it from Worldwide Labs .com.

It is really handy to have if like me you suffer from bouts of insomnia. smile.gif

Hit me with it MortonJag

I don't know that much about the stuff-it certainly seems a more sensible approach than traditional hypnotics but I've picked up on this.....


Melatonin can cause somnolence, and therefore caution should be shown when driving, operating machinery, etc.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 22:56:06
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 11 2008, 09:44 PM) [snapback]417575[/snapback]
with a nice wee mask wink.gif

laugh.gif

A small price to pay for a decent night's sleep Bryan!
mortonjag 2008-03-11 23:02:32
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 11 2008, 11:00 PM) [snapback]417624[/snapback]
For a start every time any goalkeeper loses a goal they go nuts. I've never once saw Robinson go through his defenders and, if any defenders deserved it, it's our lot this season. When he's warming up at half time if he's a sub, or before the game if he starts, he doesn't bother warming up properly. He wanders about trying overhead kicks or, worst of all, nothing and has an air of arrogance about him as tho' he thinks he's better than the club.

And he's s***.

So you don't like him then?
mortonjag 2008-03-11 23:04:57
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 11 2008, 10:57 PM) [snapback]417623[/snapback]
I shave round my beard rather than let it become an undefined mess, so I do shave smile.gif

I must be the only person who likes the single bic razors, minus my dad. That and shaving gel. I have tried the fancy 3 blade efforts but maybe my facial hair is just too coarse as all I do is block the things up and can never get the hair out!

You don't shave your pubic hair Puggs-I'm told you're scared to look at it!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 06:24:59
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 11 2008, 09:59 PM) [snapback]417599[/snapback]
when did i say he should f*** off? the only time i remember saying that was as a joke after something happened (cant remember exactly what)

but ill tell him at the Q&A laugh.gif

If we ship three points this weekend 'Q & A' will be off again! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-12 06:27:11
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 12:05 AM) [snapback]417710[/snapback]
its hard for players to come into a new club and play with people theyve never played with in normal circumstances nevermind come in and be expected to single handedly keep the team up.

Jenkin's was seen as some sort of saviour which he was never going to be, but he adds to our midfield and will only get better in time.

That sounds like common sense, but 'time' is running short!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 06:39:57
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 12 2008, 12:02 AM) [snapback]417702[/snapback]
We really have had more than our fair share of bad luck. Here's a selection of matches where with a little luck we could have taken something

1st September Morton 0 Queens 1
29 September Dundee 2 Morton 1
27 October Hamilton 1 Morton 0
26 December Morton 0 Dunfermline 1
9 February Morton 1 Clyde 2

All the above matches were games where we dominated play for most of the game and still lost. OK there's a recurring theme that we can't score, but one more point from each of the above which, on the day no one would have argued was unfair, would see us just about safe now.

When its not going your way, you don't get many breaks either. Even tonight I would not argue that a draw was not a fair result but the goal we conceded was a freak caused 60% by the weather and 40% by Robinson.

Numbers man, you scare the s*** out of me.

Every single time you start trawling through your reams of stats to put a positive spin on things, we seem to go from bad to worse!

Here's my very unscientific assessment of our current position.

Rae + JM + current squad = failure


Rae - JM + current squad = failure

Rae - JM + DI + current squad = failure


Now I'm far from a mathematician, let alone a statistician, but as far as I can see, the only way this equation can now be altered to avoid relegation is by changing 'current squad'.

Desperate times Shoogly-last chance saloon today at the Gretna bankruptcy sale. You've assured us that Mr Irons will bring home the bacon.

Pit yer money where yer mooth is and gie him a wee haun please.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 06:45:21
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 11 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]417619[/snapback]
we have shown improvement, Stirling was a must win game, thats already one more must win game than we won the whole time JM was in charge.

like it or not we have a few players in our squad who are really bad players at this level, no new manager can change that.

you cant judge a manager until it is his team, and this is most definetely still JM's team.

do you think any manager that was comfortable with what he's got would keep rotating the goalkeeper around? no. its because he's obviously not happy with either of them, but can do nothing about it.

our defense will keep making mistakes no matter who the manager is.

although i wasnt happy at his appointment to begin with, i feel if we get relegated it will be because of JM and Iron's is the man to take us forward again.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


You're yon' guy who stocks up his lobby with toilet rolls just in case he gets diarrhoea next year and there's a paper strike.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 06:53:01
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 12 2008, 12:24 AM) [snapback]417737[/snapback]
Strongly disagree.
McGurn is the best of a bad double act - Robinson was ditched by the new management team for being terrible previously.
Our midfield was completely non-existent tonight: this is a relegation dogfight - we can't continue with mediocrity simpley bacause of adverse weather or a lack of confidence in their replacements.
Stevenson showed enough on Saturday to at least merit a sub appearance - particularly when there was an abundance of underperforming midfielders tonight to hook.
I have to say I'm not convinced.

This pains me young mooth, but today I agree with you.

Indeed DI has a mountain to climb, and it's all too easy to blame EVERYTHING on JM.

JM HAS GONE R.I.P.


Now let's have some f*cking honesty. I said at the start of last season we'd win it in spite of JM.

I'm getting a bit scared we may be relegated in spite of DI, as it seems he does NOT have that extra magic which we require at present.


I will not judge him finally until the fate's been decided, but I'm not going to start looking for excuses for a piss awful result in last night's cruncher.

On that result, he's a failure in my book.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 06:57:37 As said elsewhere the persistence with this chappie can no longer be blamed on JM. Indeed the only person party to his signing apart from JM was Shoogly.

Don't say that old fudd's still 'helping' to pick the team!!! unsure.gif unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-12 07:00:04
QUOTE(BluebirdTon @ Mar 11 2008, 11:41 PM) [snapback]417664[/snapback]
A goalkeeper is a must.Lee Robinson is a complete and utter disgrace,and an embarassment to the club.

Release the useless reptile at once !

"Mistakes" seem to be a common feature in this guys game.Exactly what we could do without at this stage,in this mess.

Don't youmean 'simian'?
mortonjag 2008-03-12 07:01:08 Plenty of Gretna players going on sale soon.

Money please Shoogly.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 07:03:54
QUOTE(Mags @ Mar 12 2008, 12:38 AM) [snapback]417752[/snapback]
How many chances does Brian Graham need ???
Mags.

When a guy can turn in a performance like young Brian did in the first half at Palmerston AGAINST DI, it defeats logic that he's been by-passed so much by the shiny new Shoogly machine.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 07:06:19
QUOTE(Andy M @ Mar 12 2008, 01:37 AM) [snapback]417770[/snapback]
Last nights game at Clyde saw you good people break through a terrific milestone.

The money raised from this season's webcasts has now reached over £500.

So far, we have handed over £120 to the disabled ramp fund.

We have also raised just over £380 for the Greenock Morton Supporters Trust.

Thanks to everyone who has contributed and especially to those who have sponsored indivdiual webcasts.

There's still a couple more games to go and anyone can sponsor the remaining games.

The final game at Firhill will be a FREE webcast. Donations can still be made, but are not essential. So, for anyone who has not yet tried the webcast and cant get to the game, here's your chance to give it a go. Always good for the real-time banter during the match if nothing else.

Well done Andy.

BTW can anybody join? sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-12 07:08:05
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 11 2008, 11:12 PM) [snapback]417636[/snapback]
I think I prefer you blink.gif

You're losing your marbles!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 07:09:35
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 12 2008, 12:15 AM) [snapback]417720[/snapback]
Three factors that led to the goal were:
1. The weather
2. A sclaffed clearance from Harding
3. A young keeper who lacks confidence
The sum resulted in another embarrassment for the Ton.

HA HA Mr Edwards-so it was actually HARDING'S fault.

Personally I blame DI.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 07:11:11
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 12 2008, 12:21 AM) [snapback]417731[/snapback]
Agreed, apart from giving Harding the sole blame (well I sponsor his kit after all). Both goals were freakish.

The dark secrets of Mr Edwards' wash house! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-12 07:16:23
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 12 2008, 03:59 AM) [snapback]417771[/snapback]
Harding played a part taking far too long to clear but Robinson's attempt to judge the situation was shocking. I'd lay the majority of the blame firmly with him.

I'd go as far as to say I hope he doesn't play for the club again, he's a liabilty. There's no point in playing okay for most of the match and then conceding an absolute howler. I'm not a big McGurn fan either but I'd much rather have him in goal.

Roninson hasn't the maturity we desperately need in our current plight, so WTF was he playing, and WTF was Stevenson NOT after Saturday's shift. Brian Graham's another who's not even had a wee shot yet.

I'm already beginning to think that Mr Irons fails to demonstrate that wee extra bit I'd so much been hoping for.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 07:18:51 The Ref was nearer than me. I thought it was a penalty.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 07:26:27 It's a pretty daft poll IMO-only because the result is inevitable.

I'm banging the big drum again, but the fact that we are three quarters through this season with only ONE registered goalkeeper and an OF 'palm off' is an indictment of the Club's organisation.

This is but one example of the f*cking shambles that is SS Shoogly.

'Don't you think those boys deserve the chance to take us forward'?


The chance has been well blown Mr Rae, and time is rapidly running out.

Sign some Gretna players now-it's your last chance.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 07:33:03
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Mar 11 2008, 09:52 PM) [snapback]417593[/snapback]
I saw a victory as what I would have settled for tonight. Clyde and Livi still have those games in hand and as Irons says we are now in a mini league- we need to win those games or we can be back in 9th again.

Nothing short of three points was acceptable. This was THE BIGGIE which could have eased the pressure, and we failed. We have been used to the players failing, but Rae assured us things were now going to improve. I'm still waiting.

Nothing personal against the DI/DC team-it's extremely difficult to pick up the pieces, but that 'wee bit extra' would have seen us with more than four points from twelve.

It just isn't there.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 07:37:03
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 11 2008, 11:33 PM) [snapback]417654[/snapback]
me too, i dont think there are two " celebrities " i dislike more tongue.gif

Aye two celebrity lumps of plastic accompanied by two tits.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 07:41:05
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 12 2008, 12:03 AM) [snapback]417703[/snapback]
mellow.gif

Don't just gawk-explain yourself-you hate pubes-you seem to sense an inherent guff in every last curly DNA strand and spend half the time wearing a skirt to ventilate yer gusset.

Learn to like yourself boy-you are all you've got.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 07:44:50
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 12 2008, 12:21 AM) [snapback]417732[/snapback]
Augustus would have been my personal choice. sad.gif tongue.gif

The Story of Augustus who not have any Soup

Augustus was a chubby lad;
Fat ruddy cheeks Augustus had;
And everybody saw with joy
The plump and hearty healthy boy.
He ate and drank as he was told,
And never let his soup get cold.
But one day, one cold winter's day,
He threw away the spoon and screamed:
"O take the nasty soup away!
I won't have any soup to-day:
I will not, will not eat my soup!
I will not eat it, no!"


Next day! now look, the picture shows
How lank and lean Augustus grows!
Yet, though he feels so weak and ill,
The naughty fellow cries out still
"Not any soup for me, I say!
O take the nasty soup away!
I will not, will not eat my soup!
I will not eat it, no!"


The third day comes. O what a sin!
To make himself so pale and thin.
Yet, when the-soup is put on table,
He screams, as loud as he is able
"Not any soup for me, I say!
O take the nasty soup away!
I won't have any soup to-day!"


Look at him, now the fourth day's come!
He scarce outweighs a sugar-plum;


He's like a little bit of thread;
And on the fifth day he was-dead.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 07:57:23
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Mar 11 2008, 11:43 PM) [snapback]417666[/snapback]
You've really missed the point there! Did you read ''The Parable of the Talents ''? I'm sure you'll understand the point if you read over it again. Matthew 25:14-30

I never miss the point Chris.

In the parable of the talents the f*ckin' chancer is portrayed as the 'goodie' while the cautious lad who lacked confidence in his own ability gets slagged off. I always found something inherently un-Christian in that one.

Mileson and Christ have many similarities, not least in that the former is now being crucified for his sins.

And he didn't even need to pretend he walked across the Solway to con the bumpkins.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 08:52:03
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 12 2008, 08:40 AM) [snapback]417806[/snapback]
I don't once mention my pubes in my first comment blink.gif

Betty's pubes, your pubes-any old pubes Puggs

You are a chronic curlyphobic!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 08:53:24
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 12 2008, 08:18 AM) [snapback]417801[/snapback]
Why don't you ask him at the Q&A?

ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-12 08:55:44
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 08:14 AM) [snapback]417800[/snapback]
you say that like its a bad thing, whos door will you come to when incontinence kicks in and all the paper has went on strike?

I have a garage full of toilet rolls young man, but they only appeared AFTER the incontinence kicked in.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 08:57:35
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 08:19 AM) [snapback]417802[/snapback]
its f***ing hard to do magic when Greacen and Harding are your beautiful assistants, Robinson is the rabbit in the hat practicing overhead kicks and you're trying to do card tricks with all the Jokers still in the pack.

we've played 5 teams under DI, we've lost to the top three teams and got a home win and an away draw against the teams around us.

you werent looking for magic....you were looking for a miracle.

Not really,--just the magical ability to get something quite good out of something quite bad-it's not a miracle as Alan Moore will tell you.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 09:05:07
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Mar 12 2008, 08:48 AM) [snapback]417808[/snapback]
I have read and heard plenty about Gretna. I read about Gretna and Mileson's financial problems in the Sunday Mail on Sunday but I've read other people saying that this has all been exagerrated and that Brooks isn't in financial trouble, so I'm not sure what to believe.

The bottom line is I don't believe that Brooks ill health is the reason that he has withdrawn his support for Gretna - it's either down to lack of money or he's become fed up with the whole thing because he's realised that it will eventually lead to his ruin. And it really annoys me that because Mileson has health problems and was popular with the media he's getting off very lightly for his irresponsible behaviour.

The closest you're likely to get to the truth is by listening to Alibi.

He was pretty supportive of Mileson even when shadows were falling over Raydale.

He has now been thoroughly sickened by a man whom he found 'personable'.

Mileson is NOT bust-far from it-he could repay Alibi from his 'hippie' and hardly notice the difference.

Limited liability companies and shysters have always been mutually attracted. I understand that over 30 companies of Pony Tails have already been folded.

I believe the in term to be 'doing a Phoenix'.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 09:09:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 08:24 AM) [snapback]417803[/snapback]
we werent ready to get promoted to the first anyway, we obviously should have been given the 3 years JM had to get us ready but he f***ed about overloading our midfield with mediocre players and leaving everywhere else thin.

as much as id love to stay up i dont think us going down would be the disaster everyone thinks it would be. I fully believe Iron's and Collin's will build a squad capable of competing in the first division next season, wether we have to spend a year in the 2nd to get that right is almost irrelevant to me. we spent so long in the lower leagues that one more year to get it right wouldnt bother me all that much.

That is frankly pathetic.

Be thoroughly ashamed of yourself!!!


If I end up having to travel to s***holes like Stranraer and Forfar again it'll just about break my heart. What's so bloody daunting about a club with Morton's potential managing to cope with the first division?

It's all very well for you young bucks! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-12 09:21:42
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 12 2008, 08:53 AM) [snapback]417812[/snapback]
If you know me you'd find it quite ironic that there is no way I could be a curlyphobe. If I was I would have hung myself years ago wink.gif

A chronic shortancurlyphobic I should have said.

I'm well aware you don't need to wear Sou' Westers!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 09:26:59
QUOTE(tontric @ Mar 12 2008, 09:14 AM) [snapback]417827[/snapback]
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I'm not blaming Jenkins (or Irons). I'm just pointing out that his performance levels haven't been any better than what we could have got from existing (lower paid) players.
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He's had one good game. He hasn't even got close to being great.
As I said earlier. I'm not blaming Irons or Jenkins for anything. In fact I started a thread recently stating that I had been quite impressed with what Irons had done at the club so far.

I also really hope that Jenkins is going to show us how good a player he really is. Sooner rather than later would be good......

I'll second all that. We can't judge DI/DC fairly in terms of having had a full season with their own players.

It's perfectly legitimate, however, to comment on how well they are doing with limited resources, and I'd propose that last night's result suggest they ain't doing too well.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 09:36:14
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 12 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]417833[/snapback]
I'll allow the manager the benefit of the doubt until we know why McGurn was not playing last night. He might be carrying a knock which they did not want to risk by playing him the full game or some such similar reason. If not, I too question the judgement that plays Robinson ahead of McGurn, even if he was poor on Saturday.

Agreed-I'm already beginning to sense a 'hit and hope' aspect to DI's approach, and it's too much like deja vu if you ask me.

Jamie Stevenson played his best game in a Ton shirt for ages on Saturday, and others were still favoured, so the argument that it was based on Saturday's form looks a bit weak.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 09:38:33
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]417834[/snapback]
it shouldnt be daunting, but most clubs with our potential dont have Jim Mcinally in charge for nearly 4 years.

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...or a clown for a Chairman??? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-12 09:39:54
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 09:36 AM) [snapback]417838[/snapback]
he was good on his debut against St Johnstone and against stirling, thats two good games.

Alan Jenkins will be more of an asset to this club over the next few years than Alex Walker will ever be. Form is temporary but class is permanent as they say, and Jenkin's has proven he's good enough to play in the SPL, 1st division and 2nd division.

its hard for someone to show how good a player they are when they come into a team with no confidence with players who make little or no movement and space for themselves.

his driving runs have been an asset in 2 games since he arrived, infact he's the first morton midfielder ive seen inside the 6 yard box in about 4 years.

he will get better and better the longer he's here and he's one of only one or two match winners we have in the squad.

Jenkins has already proven his ability.

Why has he been so crap for us? Blaming others is a 'cop out'.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 09:46:19
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 09:41 AM) [snapback]417844[/snapback]
stirling had an excellent squad last season, one well capable of competing at 1st division level. like ours, their squad was weakened in the summer but they still managed to play decent football and give teams a real good game in most of their games.

Alan Moore would not have got us any more points than we have under Iron's already.

just about any Morton fan, although hoping for full points would have settled for 4 points when they saw a home game against Stirling and an away game against Clyde.

if we stay up this season then it will be down to our results in these two games, although i doubt many people will look back and congratulate Iron's on that.

That is pure conjecture, and in my opinion is also mince.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 09:52:36
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 09:44 AM) [snapback]417845[/snapback]
im not blaming others, he hasnt played to his full potential yet, but he's definetely added something to our team.

it may be a cop out but overlooking the fact that the players behind him and infront of him arent good enough, making it harder for him to have any real impact would be ignorant at best.

is it a coincidence that the two games we've played well in and provided an attacking threat against St Johnstone and Stirling are the two games that Jenkins has played well? i think not.

It's a fact that our two BIG signings Jenkins and McGuffie-guys whose past records speak for themselves, have both failed abysmally to come here and make an immediate impact.

For some reason that's what happens at Cappielow. I used to blame JM, but he's gone and the disease lingers.

We haven't time to wait for a gradual adjustment to the huge pressures of a lower division!!!!!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 09:56:07
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 12 2008, 09:53 AM) [snapback]417854[/snapback]
I was always going to be open to ridicule in posting this topic but I personally believe it. W've had a lot more lucky breaks go against us than for us this season and two of the best examples were the loss to Dunfermline at Cappielow and Clyde's 2 goals in the last minute the other week.

It does'nt alter the fact that the squad are not good enough and I am not trying to say that.

Well they say that what goes round comes round-time will tell!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 09:59:59 I'm puzzled by the enthusiasm for threads like this-is there something terribly 'Macho' about having to pull the fuzz off your face (or not bothering for that matter).

I'd be much more interested to know what proportion of our good folks chew their snotters.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 10:07:42
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 09:57 AM) [snapback]417856[/snapback]
so are you saying we should get rid of them then?

you expect too much. you expect people to come in and fix 4 years of bad work in the space of a Month. Things wont be the way we hoped it would be at the start of this season for at least another year.

we dont have time for Gradual Adjustment, but sacking our manager are the end of January means it was all we were ever going to get. for that im going to let you off your leash so you can have a go at your shoogly.

He's NOT MY Shoogly-if he was I'd have him sorted out and all would be well.

It's funny how you think you can get off with throw away comments like 'four years of bad work', now that JM has gone-even though I agree with you. The general disenchantment with JM is only months old.

You are deliberately dodging the issue. Irons has been brought here primarily to keep us in division 1.

I believe things are better than they were, but he failed last night to get three points against a side who are NOT better than us, and that had f*ck all to do with JM.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 10:11:51
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 10:01 AM) [snapback]417858[/snapback]
fixed it for you tongue.gif

we haven't came close to beating the top 3 teams this season, a couple of draws and thats it. Allan Moore would not have made us capable of beating these teams within a month of arriving.

this season against clyde we've won a game where they had a legitimate goal disallowed in the last minute, won 1-0 away from home and lost 2-1 at home.

we are both pretty even teams so a 1-1 result away from home in a game in swirling winds where even if both teams knew how to play good football it wouldnt have been possible is not a bad result.

It is a disgusting result, and mainly because we didn't turn up. That, IMHO, is ultimately down to the manager.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 10:22:42
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 12 2008, 10:15 AM) [snapback]417863[/snapback]

“This is not the age of reason, this is the age of flummery, and the day of the devious approach. Reason’s gone into the backrooms where it works to devise means by which people can be induced to emote in the desired direction.â€
mortonjag 2008-03-12 10:27:45
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 10:19 AM) [snapback]417864[/snapback]
im afraid, seeing as he is no one elses shoogy...that makes him yours.

Hindsight is a funny thing, us playing below our level was very misleading which we are paying for now, and ive given you credit in the past for being right before us all, although i still believe the people who supported JM when we were top of the league were correct to do so as if they weren't then there would be no point being a football supporter of a club like Morton if you dont appreciate success when it comes along.

were we not 9th when Iron's took over, now we are 8th.
we hadnt won a must win game in 4 years when Iron's took over, we have now.
we had just lost 2-1 at home to clyde when Iron's took over, we drew 1-1 with them away under him.

Iron's is doing his part of the bargain in keeping us in division one. he was brought in to make us progress and we've progressed more in a month than we did in the 5 months JM had in charge of us in this division.

they aren't better than us, but results this season show they arent worse than us either. while he is playing with JM's players this season a huge part of the blame for not winning games like last night will always fall on JM's door in my eyes.

So you reckon our performance under Irons last night was an improvement?

It's easy to cite individual games-don't forget JM HUMPED Irons with our 'crap' squad down at Palmerston.

There is still time, but three points last night would have made things SO much easier, and quite simply he FAILED.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 10:31:50
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]417868[/snapback]
why is it Managers arent praised for good results, like our good performance against Stirling, but a poor performance is greeted with insults and questioning ability?

an away point against any team in this division is a good result for us, even more so that we didnt play well. if we'd played them off the park and still drew then you'd be even more upset now.

Insults?

You are simply playing devil's advocate on this, and you ain't getting much support.

It's very simple PT-based on the task in hand, Irons was a failure last night.

FACT-not insult.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 10:36:50
QUOTE(nani @ Mar 12 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]417872[/snapback]
I have seen Jenkins a no of times over the years though last night was first time I have seen him for us. Honestly I always thought he was mediocre and last night he was anonymous as has McGuffie been though I thought last night he was slightly better.
Jenkins always seemed to me overweight, slow and cumbersome and perhaps he has never properly recovered from the lenghty absence he had due to injury. He was certainly more influential as a Stranraer player. I have to say though that many posters on this board have ranted on and on about signing Jenkins....I could never see why.
Our best players consistently are Miller and McAllister and the only other player we have who has genuine class and the ability to do something a bit different is Stevenson. McLaughlin, Mcguffie and Jenkins are merely water carriers and two of them would be plenty. So I would give Jamie a chance. I realise that he has had a poor season but has been played in a no of positions and has looked disinterested on occasion. But if he`s fit I would play him in the next few games and drop any 1 of the other 3.
The one thing that we can do nothing about is the goalie (both are poor) and the defence until Smith is fit and can bring a wee bit of experience albeit he`s no long term answer. The one thing you can guarantee is that we will continue to lose goals with the players we have at the back. Our strength, or should be , is in the middle of the park and if we could create chances for Weatherson he would score a few....but I can hardly remember the last time Weatherson had a chance to score bar free kicks.
Obviously if we could benefit from Gretna`s plight then all well and good though I a would assume their better players would be coveted by better teams than us...why exactly would Innes or Skelton come to Morton?

Money?

But then Shoogly's skint!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 10:43:09
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]417873[/snapback]
i reckon last night was a game that under JM we would have lost after losing the equaliser yes, i see that as improvement.

Gretna dont count when it comes to humpings. tongue.gif

it would have made it easier, obviously. but if making things easy is what you want then every single manager Morton has ever had has been a failure.

we were in the play-off spot when he took over and livingston weren't even on our minds. now we're in 8th place and livingston have been dragged into the relegation mix due to the points we have picked up since he came.

if thats failure for you then you must have had a VERY successful life.

I guess I've had a reasonably successful life-well I'm damned sure I'd award myself slightly more than four points out of twelve, and in situations where success was absolutely vital, I can't remember ever losing, so aye, maybe I do expect too much.

I suppose it's down to mentality, and if you're a 'loser' by nature, you could argue that last night's fiasco result was acceptable!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 10:48:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]417877[/snapback]
if Iron's was a failure last night then that would make John Brown a success, yet they were at home and are still below us in the league. Go Figure.

you said to me not to judge people on induvidual results, yet you've already described Iron's as a failure because of last nights result.

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That is incorrect. I have stated that with reference purely to last night's result, relative to the task in hand, he is a failure. I have not suggested that he was a failure against St Johnstone, or even Hamilton, and we dealt with Stirling fairly well, but last night was a crunch game, and you can argue till you are blue in the face-he f*cked up!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 10:51:31
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 12 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]417880[/snapback]
The wars in Afganistan and Iraq are set to hit £3.25bns per annum this year.This is just a waste of good taxpayers money that could be better spent elsewhere.

"The Commons defence committee said operational costs for this financial year were now forecast to reach £3.297bn - a 94% increase on last year.

WAR ! What is it good for ?

It gives you something to post about Spurtle.

BTW were you at Broadwood last night-there wasn't much fighting there!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 11:14:24
QUOTE(tontric @ Mar 12 2008, 10:53 AM) [snapback]417883[/snapback]
Not as sh*te as Robinson is ever time he plays which you would think would make him our first choice keeper.

We'll have a new keeper next season as I don't think either of them are good enough however until that point McGurn should be first choice.

Have to agree. I've been making excuses for the wee ginger one all season, but the bottom line is that he does not COMMAND the goal area. That would be bad enough with an experienced defence in front of him, but I just can't understand him being preferred over McGurn, especially for such a crucial match.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 11:16:53
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]417885[/snapback]
we didnt lose!!! we gained no ground and lost no ground. we are ahead of them in the league.

the fact is, if he hadnt f***ed up before last nights game, then there is no way he has f***ed up after last nights game because NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

Something has very much changed-we have one less game left in which to pick up three points, and Clyde still have a game in hand.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 11:21:46
QUOTE(nani @ Mar 12 2008, 10:57 AM) [snapback]417887[/snapback]
Dont think either of you are correct here. McInally was never as bad as Port ton stated and we had many good results and performances under him.....we were very consistent by finishing in the top 2 in both of his 2 full seasons while only missing out by a point in his first season having been 10 or 12 points behind when he got the job and had the task of overhauling the team and getting rid of a few pissheads (Maisanos, williams etc). Plus he took us to a couple of semi finals in the Diddy Cup (losing to the Skunks on penalties...very unluckily) and we beat a couple of SPL teams in the Cup so to call it 4 years of bad work is nonsense. The big mistake was in the Summer with poor signings. Primarily due to not securing McGowan and ending up with Russell left us with a poorer team than last season. Not getting Sutton and Mensing instead getting McAnespie and Gardyne tells its own story. Was that his fault or Shooglys? However he recognised that he could do no more, was tired of the personal abuse and the abuse of players and figured the honourable thing to do was go....which he did.
Morton Jag I feel you`re a bit quick to slag off Irons but recognise your concerns. Should he have got the job in the 1st place given his track record. Probably not. But he did therefore he`ll at least need to get the time to sign his own players then judgement can be made. Whether or not that is in the 1st or 2nd Div remains to be seen but I have a terrible fear after last night that it will be the play offs for us and none of us would be too confident playing Airdrie or Raith with the current team. Last night was a great opportunity, we were marginally the better of the 2 teams but our defence is shocking and only we could have conceded a goal like their equaliser. It could have ended up even worse without Robinsons terrific save and the woodwork....I think too many people on this board make managers the scapegoat for everything. Morton Jag we just have to hope we finish 8th and get another chance in the Summer to rectify the mistakes made last Summer.

I'd like to state categorically that I'm not 'having a go' at Davie Irons, if he was brought here on the basis of accepting relegation.

My understanding is that he's here to guarantee first division status initially. In that respect last night's result is an IMMENSE set back.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 11:24:19
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 11:06 AM) [snapback]417889[/snapback]
name one must win game we won under JM?

Stranraer away
Peterhead in the playoffs
Stirling at all last season
Raith the day we won the league
arguably two challenge cup semi finals

we lost them all.

wins against Kilmarnock and and St Johnstone that we werent expected to win in cups masked this slightly.

beating the likes of Forfar 9-1 is all well and good but if you do not win one game that makes or breaks your season then you're a failure in my book.

I agree that JM's success rate in crunch games was very poor. I'd have hoped for better from DI. Things will hopefully improve.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 11:31:19
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Mar 12 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]417896[/snapback]
Agree with this. DI has inherited a team with too many passengers. IMO we will stay up by the skin of our teeth and when that happens, i expect to see DI get his own (and much better) squad together in the summer.
TOSH - not fact. DI maybe didn't get a couple of selections/substitutions right last night, but what were the other options? A point away from home with our current squad is a success IMO, key last night was not getting beat.
Il take 5 of whatever your on please.

What were the other options you ask?

Clearly you are suggesting there were none, and that last night's performance is the best we are to expect from our new knight in shining armour!

This is already smacking odiously of the pathetic bleating excuses of the 80% who had 'full confidence' in JM.

Irons has been appointed to save us from relegation. Today he, and we, should all be wearing big cheesy grins instead of knocking lumps out of each other.

That says everything so far as I'm concerned.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 11:37:19
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 10:53 AM) [snapback]417882[/snapback]
its 4 points out of 15 actually, but realistically 4 points out of 6. we could compete with any other team inthis division apart from the top 3, and so far we have competed with the teams outwith the top 3 we've played under Iron's.

i beg to differ, i think if youre a realist then last nights result was acceptable.

I kinda got that point about 100 posts ago!

I believe that the only realistically acceptable result last night was a victory. If Irons had told me prior to the match that he'd be happy with a draw I'd have been f*cking furious, as I imagine would have been 90% of our fans.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 11:41:24
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 12 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]417884[/snapback]
Correct me if I am wrong but is'nt it two decent results out of 4? Martin Clark was in charge at Dundee. In my book that makes the new management's record better than you say. The first three games they had in charge I think we all saw a bit of an improvement but last night was really poor, although much of that has to be down to the conditions.

I think Jenkins will come good and I even thought that McGuffie was one of our less bad performers last night.

Agree entirely, and then when it comes to the one that really matters we flop. I'm bitterly disappointed. If Clyde had outplayed us in a great game of football, I could have accepted that. I thought we did quite well against Hamilton, particularly in the first half, and 3-0 ultimately flattered them.

Last night we were up against pure crap and all we could do was match it. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-12 11:44:09
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 12 2008, 11:08 AM) [snapback]417890[/snapback]
Why is this allowed to be an excuse for Stevenson's poor form but not for McGuffie's? He's played what, 10 games for us now, and he's played in 3 different positions in a team that he's trying to familiarise himself with, and with players that he doesn't know all that well.

It's asking way too much of these 2 guys to single-handedly turn around our performances almost immediately. I personally feel that they have both brought something to the table, but we are most likely not going to see the best of them until they have a had a pre-season with the squad.

Stevenson came up a division. McGuffie dropped a division.

There IS a slight difference.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 11:51:20
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 11:23 AM) [snapback]417899[/snapback]
if you're basing us staying up on one result a month after he came in that we didnt even lose then maybe youre the one that is accepting relegation.

You are beginning to sound daft!

I'm basing nothing on 'ONE RESULT', and a great deal on THE RESULT against our direct competitor for the playoffs.

That is what made last night SO important AND different. If you can't accept that you're stubborn, and if you can't see it you're a clown.

mortonjag 2008-03-12 11:54:01
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 11:36 AM) [snapback]417906[/snapback]
you're comparing excuses for someone who had 3 years in the job over someone who's had less than two months. people had time to judge and base their opinions fully on JM by that time, no one knows how good Iron's will do in the long run, but he's done no worse or better than can be expected.

the fact you've already judged him as a failure and are comparing people sticking up for him to people having confidence in JM after 3 years says everything about you so far as im concerned.

..that I can honestly assess his performance last night-for that is all I have done, and last night DI was a failure, and those who disagree with that are simply making excuses!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 11:59:33 Lies, damned lies, and statistics.

If we're going to be playing those kiddies games, can I wind back to this time yesterday?

How many of us HONESTLY thought we'd fail to get three points last night?
mortonjag 2008-03-12 12:02:40
QUOTE(suda @ Mar 12 2008, 11:50 AM) [snapback]417920[/snapback]
I would rather have Clyde's keeper David Hutton, to me he's the best keeper in the league and he can't be on great terms at Clyde.

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But that's against the rules of this game--I mean I'd rather have Alex Rae, or Billy Reid, or Gordon Chisholm, or Derek McInnes, or Alan Moore!!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 12:09:16
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 12 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]417874[/snapback]
How could an apparently sane person with assets reportedly to the tune of some £70 million believe that a village with a population of 2,700 could maintain a viable SFL, let alone SPL club?

Gidday mortonjag,

Is there no truth to the story that he planned to move them to Carlisle before their promotion run ???

The population of Carlisle is about 100,000.

Correct ?

huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif

I understand that Mileson was out of favour with Carlisle quite some time before he took Gretna on board, having twice snubbed the opportunity to get financially involved with them.

I posted that information on the forum during their first runaway season with Pony Tail's money, asking whom he could possibly amalgamate with, as that was clearly his only chance of long term financial stability.

Most people questioned my sanity and accused me of jealousy.

Most people were daft! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-12 12:13:01
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 11:40 AM) [snapback]417910[/snapback]
theres a difference between acceptable and being pleased.

i dont think Iron's will be happy with a draw, a lot less content than i and a lot of fans are.

the fact you seem to have based our whole battle to stay in this division around this one game scares me,
espescially since we didnt even lose it.

Ever heard of a 'six pointer'?

That was the crucial difference last night. I thought it was so bloody obvious that even a child could have understood the implications. Seemingly I was wrong.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 12:16:44
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 11:49 AM) [snapback]417918[/snapback]
Stevenson has had time to settle in, Mcguffie hasnt.

that said they have both been poor and need to offer more, there is still a chance Mcguffie might but i doubt Stevenson ever will, which is incredibly frustrating.

Stevenson was excellent against Hamilton-were you there-and then dropped!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 12:18:24
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]417922[/snapback]
you find that a lot with teams that win the league, they start well because theyre used to winning but as soon as they lose they crumble.

the one thing i feel this team havent learned yet is that they havent learned to lose yet. when we lose the players lose all confidence, even if we'd won the week before, and then it spirals out of control.

if a team like partick or QOS were to lose one week they'd put it behind them and could easily come out and win the next week.

i hope we'll get like that over time, but the only way to do that is to continue playing in the 1st division and getting used to it.

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They've had plenty of f*ckin' practice PT!!!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 12:26:55
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 11:56 AM) [snapback]417927[/snapback]
if you dont have the confidence in our players to pick up the points needed to survive in the rest of our league games then why do you expect Iron's to work miracles with them?

last night was not THE result. it was A result. nothing lost and nothing gained.

we have home games coming up against partick and livingston, those are THE results.

i must be a clown then, along with the other people who have agreed with me compared to the not one person who has agreed with you. the best you've had is someone disagreeing with both of us laugh.gif

PT I don't expect folk to agree with me-it usually takes about 75% a lot longer to grasp what's going on!
Please don't blame me for THAT too!
I'm not even sure what you've tried to say other than that last night's result was no more important than say, last Saturdays.

Well it WAS-FAR, FAR more important.

I have always believed we have enough ability in this squad to finish at least mid table, and my opinion has never changed. It is up to the manager to get the best out of EVERYBODY, and in as many games as possible. That was the area where JM failed us so badly.

mortonjag 2008-03-12 12:33:19
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]417929[/snapback]
if you were only assessing his performance of last night then you wouldnt have made the comment about it already starting to sound like the people who had ' full confidence " in JM.

you've already made up your mind on Iron's after less than 2 months in the job wether you're ready to admit it or not.

AHA-you are now doing my thinking for me as well!!!

The excuses which are being made for DI after last night's failure are pathetic and pointless-just like those that were made by the blind fools who could only bleat mindlessly-'FFS we're top of the league'.

Had the latter day JM done last night what Irons did, he would have been ridiculed.

Irons failed last night. That does not mean he will fail on Saturday. It's one game at a time in case you hadn't realised, and every failure makes the next game even more crucial.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 12:36:24 Funny old game eh. Seems not that long ago that Midge was a target for the disgruntled, and was benched by JM.

I don't think he'll stay and I wish him well at a club with a forward looking structure.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 12:40:45
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 12:19 PM) [snapback]417947[/snapback]
you must have got so far with your incredibly successful life by being so patronising.

a six pointer is only a six pointer if one team wins, i thought it so bloody obvious that someone as distinguished and successful and inspiring as you would have understood. seemingly i was wrong.

FFS have I done that again-sorry-it's those bloody argumentative weans-they upset me PT!

Next, some clown will come out with something ridiculously obvious like 'a six pointer is only a six pointer if one team wins' while arguing in the same breath that winning 'six pointers' is no more important than others. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-12 12:43:33
QUOTE(tontric @ Mar 12 2008, 12:28 PM) [snapback]417953[/snapback]
Me. I predicted a score draw and you told me to stop being so pessimistic.

That is correct-I remember very well shuddering at the prospect, and full credit to you for your perception. It seems that my faith in DI was misplaced on this occasion!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 12:46:46
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]417955[/snapback]
it was a joke, not about the appointment but about sticking up for him over his statement. i would never use something something done to change my opinion about something else.

i believe he was correct in his statement and i used my anger at that to light heartedly suggest that his appointment of Iron's had made me change my mind about that. i would never call someone a p***k seriously, certainly not for something like appointing a manager of a football club.

to be fair my anger had gone within half an hour and i was kind of happy that Iron's was here, and now im really happy he's here tongue.gif

You're really quite a sweet person at heart.

You'd LOVE the real Mortonjag too!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 12:54:57
QUOTE(para @ Mar 12 2008, 12:39 PM) [snapback]417958[/snapback]
and your point is

o yes smartarse
please quote the post mj

I beg your pardon?

I'm not sure if you're calling me a liar or not, and if you are you're just a clown. I have no need to lie about anything I've ever posted. I don't know how far back we are archived, but I'll find the post if necessary, though the onus is on the prosecution.

It would be highly amusing to quote many of the abusive comments I've had about my opinions on Mileson, JM, and Rae, but up until now I've never really felt the need.

Anyway what you've just said is rather 'Mumbo jumbo'.

Maybe you just farted on the keyboard, in which case you're excused.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:05:25
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 12:40 PM) [snapback]417959[/snapback]
Wow, Patronising me was excusable because i dont take any notice to what people say about me but patronising 75% of the posters on here, probably not a good move. although you'll probably tell every single one of them that theyre part of the 25% of the forum who are with you, since you have been proven as a grand master in the martial art of s***ebag tongue.gif

it was far more important than saturdays result, but only if we won or lost. the fact neither of these happened means the game might not have been played at all, leaving us still ahead of them.

we do not have enough ability to finish at least mid-table in this league. we have 2nd division goalkeepers, defenders and one striker capable of scoring goals, but only when he's in the mood.

the Squad we have is capable at surviving relegation at best, for me JM should have left for Building that squad and not purely on results in the 1st division this season.

no manager can make bad players good players, epescially with no pre-season under his belt with the players or a transfer window to make his own mark on the team.

Don't be a clot-I've pointed out their sheep headed stupidity many many times before. Stating correctly that they made complete fools of themselves is hardly patronising-indeed some of the cleverer sheep may even have been prompted to think next time before trotting closely behind their dag stained woollen leaders.


As to the second highlighted portion, I find it somewhat presumtious that you fail to state that it is merely your youthful opinion.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:09:52
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 12:44 PM) [snapback]417963[/snapback]
well youre getting on a bit, someone is going to need to help you with your thinking.

or maybe your past experience with JM and his supporters are confusing your logic with DI this time. both situations dont need to be the same you know. you have no proof that DI wont be an excellent manager so you cant say that excuses for last night are pathetic and pointless, you had the experience of JM for years to be able to at least have credibility with your opinions on him and his supporters.

JM would not have been ridiculed for drawing away to clyde last night, to say so is stupid.

or you could look at it as its one game at a time and another game we didnt lose, which brings us closer to safety.

Sorry PT-if you won't play by the rules, folk will spot that. Nowhere have I suggested that I'm judging DI on anything other than last night's result.

If folk like you would just have the honesty to admit he f*cked up, instead of pathologically fighting a losing battle, I could have been out for my incontinence pads by now.

I will get back to you after the Partick game. I sincerely hope he does better. Everybody makes mistakes.

WELL-ALMOST everybody! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:15:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 01:08 PM) [snapback]417977[/snapback]
it is patronising to suggest people showing support for a manager that none of us can have a reasonable opinion on yet is wrong.

of course its my opinion, the fact this is a public messageboard for this very use and the fact that one person already, in you has already disagreed with me shows that it is purely an opinion.

I did not suggest you were wrong to give your support to DI, as indeed I do-merely that you ARE wrong in suggesting that last night's performance is acceptable against our closest rivals for the playoffs.

Furthermore I have NEVER denied folk the right to their opinions, but bear in mind, the minute you make a statement, you leave yourself open to contradiction, and 75% of the posters who used the poll 'had total confidence in JM'. Very few of them showed much patience for those who thought otherwise, and only a handful had the decency ever to admit they'd been wrong.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:17:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 01:08 PM) [snapback]417977[/snapback]
it is patronising to suggest people showing support for a manager that none of us can have a reasonable opinion on yet is wrong.

of course its my opinion, the fact this is a public messageboard for this very use and the fact that one person already, in you has already disagreed with me shows that it is purely an opinion.

EDIT TO ADD : youth are the future of this country, you're getting to that stage of life where our opinion is more important than yours, im sorry to have to tell you sad.gif bow out gracefully old timer tongue.gif (i dont mean die, please dont die).

...God preserve us!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:20:15
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]417966[/snapback]
winning 6 pointers is more important than others, losing 6 pointers is more important than others.

drawing 6 pointers makes them Null and Void.

would you like to fit in my tiny car? it may look tiny and although there is lots of us in here there is plenty space for you, just watch out for that custard pie.

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mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:22:45
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 12:49 PM) [snapback]417967[/snapback]
laugh.gif i hold no grudges. i could argue for hours on one subject and then back you to the hilt on another.

im actually rather fond of you in a crazy old uncle kind of way, although the more we talk the more its getting like the crazy old uncle who makes you think its okay to touch them in places that your pee pee comes from. tongue.gif

It's perfectly OK for you to touch your mouth PT. wink.gif

Trust yer uncle Ernie.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:24:47
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Mar 12 2008, 12:57 PM) [snapback]417970[/snapback]
There's still the very outside chance that Partick could be drawn into it. It's unlikely and wishful thinking on my part but never say never.

I think that in McColl and the squad they have, they've got a wee start on us.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:29:07
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]417968[/snapback]
yet you havent judged DI yet? tongue.gif

Correct-I hope he does OK by us, but he was managing a dire SPL side, and those guys are managing good Ist division sides with the exception of Moore whom I'd have liked at Cappielow anyway.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:30:19
QUOTE(suda @ Mar 12 2008, 01:18 PM) [snapback]417984[/snapback]
Ah but DI was a shoogly appointment so is destined to fail.

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Shouldn't that read-so is destined to be here for four years come hell or high water?
mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:36:01
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 01:19 PM) [snapback]417985[/snapback]
you listed a list of just about every manager in the league you'd rather have than him on another thread 5 mins ago, i'd say thatd judging him on more than just last nights result.

last nights result wasnt great, but it wasnt the disaster you have made it out to be. how exactly am i fighting a losing battle? youre the only person im fighting and i havent even broken a sweat yet tongue.gif

after the partick and livingston games if we lose them you can come to me and say he f***ed up and 90% of me will agree with you, although i wont fully judge him until next season.

I'm sure you'll accuse me yet again of being patronising when I ask where you learned to count.


Davie Irons failed last night-something I expect he would admit in his heart of hearts if not openly, yet you single handedly contrive to confound that fact.

That is fighting a losing battle
mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:37:46
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 01:26 PM) [snapback]417996[/snapback]
that was possibly the creepiest thing anyone has ever said to me laugh.gif

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Actualy the kids up here love it! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:39:06
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]417999[/snapback]
i think he was impying that you are a clown along with him. by he i mean me. by me i mean I.

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mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:43:55
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 01:38 PM) [snapback]418011[/snapback]
port high sad.gif

he said in todays tele that he was happy that we didnt lose, because we couldnt lose. which is exactly what i said, long before i saw the tele.

so thats me and Davie vs you. we could easily take you, so it is you that is fighting the losing battle.

why dont you start a poll to see who thinks last night was an absolute disaster, and we'll see who's on who's side since you seem so convinced that you are correct.

On the contrary young man, your uncle Ernie knows when to avoid silly confrontation, as in the Q & A debate.

I invite you, however, to start a poll to see who thinks last night was a resounding success!


Oh and one of Uncle Ernie's brothers taught in Port High, while another was a pupil-that was before he graduated with a 'First' from Oxford!!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:49:41
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 12 2008, 01:08 PM) [snapback]417976[/snapback]
I'm sure I posted this on here before but a mate of mine Immac'd his downstairs area. The most memorable quote he made afterwards was "Ma burds fanny juice stung that much I had to chuck her aff"

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That would never sound correct any other way!!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:53:16
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 12 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]417928[/snapback]
You don't fly with Continental! A bloody health hazard! How a plane that size is allowed to go on a transatlantic route is beyond me. At least with Iceland Air you can stretch your legs at Reykjavik.

Once I was able to take temazepam on a flight to Brazil. Best 8 hours sleep I have ever had on a plane! That was indeed the muts nuts.

Plenty of effective 'one off' hypnotics HT, but side effects and habituation prohibit use for chronic insomnia.

As you suggest, a stiff drink and a couple of jellies works a treat as a 'one off'!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:54:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 12 2008, 11:30 AM) [snapback]417902[/snapback]
I actually prefer Claymore c*** laugh.gif

OK Osprey Oxters!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:58:40
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 12 2008, 01:31 PM) [snapback]418003[/snapback]
How exactly did the catholic church come up with these new sins? Did Jesus drop in for a natter? Was it an official order from Heaven?

I'm being serious, how can an ordinary man create and define new sins? Surely in the eyes of God that's punishable by a term in Old Nick's gaffe?

Is not the Holy Father in direct contact with God day and daily-he is surely God's messenger on earth, and I don't imagine he'd be wanting to upstage the old c*nt.

I'd imagine God's still in charge BH.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 14:03:25
QUOTE(princessTON @ Mar 12 2008, 01:51 PM) [snapback]418020[/snapback]
It says in the paper he will still live in Germany, fly over on the Friday, play on the Saturday, then fly home. unsure.gif

Sounds an ideal recipe for bonding with his team mates!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 14:09:54
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 12 2008, 02:02 PM) [snapback]418025[/snapback]
Should be n interesting evening , to see how deluded Dougie is to the realities of the position we are in due to his stubborness sad.gif

...'and following recent suggestions by Gordon.... erm.... Blair, regarding...erm... important people, I propose that all Morton fans should swear allegiance to...erm.... I propose a toast to ME...erm ...Cappie the Cat..erm........ Crawford-give me back my notes'... dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-12 14:46:39
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 02:21 PM) [snapback]418029[/snapback]
i think the technical term is s***ebag tongue.gif

i have no idea how to start a poll, and i think if i ever did learn then i would die a little inside.

how long ago did he teach in the port high?

closest i ever got to that was being offered a job to drive First buses is Oxford City Centre.

About twenty years but left there quite a while back.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 14:47:39
QUOTE(nani @ Mar 12 2008, 02:31 PM) [snapback]418033[/snapback]
What a pair of sweetie wives....

Two sweetie wives and a Nanny = three old ladies!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 14:57:59
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 02:48 PM) [snapback]418039[/snapback]
what are you talking about? its all very well getting a lift but expecting to beat two of the top three teams is never going to happen no matter if a new manager comes in or not.

we played well against St Johnstone and Lost, played well for the first half an hour against Hamilton and lost, Won against Stirling and drew away to clyde.

if thats not a lift from 7 defeats in a row, and 6 home defeats in a row then i dont know what is.

We played well against St Johnstone and might have snatched a draw

We played well against Stirling and took our chances

We played well against Hamilton, though we faded in the second half

Last night we played Clyde in a game that should have been ours for the taking- a game we desperately needed to win-and we played extremely uninspired stuff.

I think Spot Ton's a bit harsh over the piece but last night DI was a failure.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 15:16:31
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 01:38 PM) [snapback]418011[/snapback]
port high sad.gif

he said in todays tele that he was happy that we didnt lose, because we couldnt lose. which is exactly what i said, long before i saw the tele.

so thats me and Davie vs you. we could easily take you, so it is you that is fighting the losing battle.

why dont you start a poll to see who thinks last night was an absolute disaster, and we'll see who's on who's side since you seem so convinced that you are correct.

Well he would-wouldn't he!

Here's what he said in YESTERDAY'S Tilly.....


And Irons said: “We know we need to win, and we’re quietly confident.

“The players need to be brave on the ball, not hide and let the pressure pot situation get to them. They need to feel they can express themselves.



'We know we need to win' and he didn't-he failed in his task, and is naturally relieved it wasn't even worse.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 15:19:23
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 12 2008, 03:16 PM) [snapback]418045[/snapback]
Better than both of our diddies.

That is unkind.

Better than either mind you.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 15:22:40
QUOTE(giz @ Mar 12 2008, 03:20 PM) [snapback]418050[/snapback]
McGurn was told he was being dropped as he caused the penalty last week and in effect the game....this came from his family last night

Oh well-he'll be back in on Saturday since Irons has openly blamed Robinson for last night's defeat!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 15:24:40
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 12 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]418054[/snapback]
Robinson certainly takes a share of the blame however he was not the sole culprit in what was a calamitous sequence of events from failing to deal with the through ball, cannoning a clearance off their player then making an arse of saving the shot. I think the whole McGurn v Robinson debate is tiresome - in my mind they are both as culpable as each other and both have cost us points this season. However this pales into insignificance when compared with the number of errors and subsequent games lost by the two clowns playing in front of them at centre half.

Our goalscoring record is equally abysmal if not worse!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 15:33:14
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 12 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]418052[/snapback]
Barfly in Glasgow after they supported The Twang last October. I would post it on here but then Mortonjag would know what I look like and hunt me down for sport.

I'd never imagined you as a naked seven year old boy BH.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 15:37:48
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 12 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]418060[/snapback]

Interesting comment re. Motherwell. If they can't play there, what happens?

Basically they are F*CKED.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 15:56:53
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Mar 12 2008, 03:50 PM) [snapback]418064[/snapback]
Yup! if he concentrated more on actually looking and acting like a goal keeper and not showing off and acting like a D*** in front o fans wi his c***y wee atitude he might start to get somewhere...personally cannae stand him... liability of a guy.....

The poor little ginger one seems to have few friends!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 16:11:12
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Mar 12 2008, 04:07 PM) [snapback]418068[/snapback]
Face facts he's off. Think he is probably playing so well due to him being under no pressure and buzzing about a fresh challenge as he is guaranteed first div football with a club that are far better than us at the min. The good thing is that he is giving 100% every game like a pro should and he will be one of the last to get any blame for the buffoonery this season, and Mr Chairman should hang his head for messing the lad about and offering Davie sick note a 100 year deal.

WTF is Davie sick note?
mortonjag 2008-03-12 16:12:48
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 12 2008, 04:07 PM) [snapback]418069[/snapback]
Draw. Only felt like a defeat

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oops
mortonjag 2008-03-12 16:21:50
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Mar 12 2008, 04:08 PM) [snapback]418070[/snapback]
Chick Young is the latest in the long line of sycophant's to claim that Brooks has done nothing wrong:

Chick's A Tit

I haven't had the chance to ask him, but I suspect that Brooks would do it all over again.


That Pishley c*nt is more transparent than the pond he inhabits-what a repulsive little turd.

If you're that keen to ask him-go and do it you wannabe weasel-hopefully he'll tell you to go and f*ck yourself.

You don't give a toss about Gretna, let alone Mileson, but when everybody else is correctly putting the boot in, you'll happily spout utter pish just for the publicity.

Inbred Hunskunk mutant creep.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 16:27:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 12 2008, 04:23 PM) [snapback]418082[/snapback]
Millionaire Gretna owner Brooks Mileson has been released from Newcastle General Hospital.

Club officials expect him to make a full recovery from an illness which has been confirmed as a brain infection.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/south_...and/7258453.stm

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Perhaps Mileson sees Gretna in a different light now that he is free of his brain infection.

No mention of missing hands or even fingers.

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I just have this horrible feeling that the 'brain infection' may be complicated by selective amnesia.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 16:30:39
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Mar 12 2008, 04:27 PM) [snapback]418086[/snapback]
However much pleasure Brooks gave Gretna he is ultimately responsible for their ruin. Unsurprisingly Chick neglects to mention that at any stage.

Not nearly as much as the llamas gave Chick.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 16:36:25
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 12 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]418091[/snapback]
would the "brain infection" have caused permanent damage ?

Could the village have a new idiot ?

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It would need to have been some brain infection to render him as neuronally impoverished as Charles Hunskunk Young!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 17:27:13
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 12 2008, 05:21 PM) [snapback]418112[/snapback]
Do you mean last Saturday? Against Hamilton? That was one of his best performances for ages? Are you on drugs? Was I on drugs?

Well Mr McArthur, I am certainly not, and in the short time Jamie played -YES-against Hamilton he looked better, keener, and hungrier than he has for ages. Maybe you are on drugs, maybe you're blind, maybe you're an inveterate cynic.

Possibly you're all three.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 17:35:03
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 26 2008, 09:25 PM) [snapback]411159[/snapback]
I'm selling my body by the hour, £30 and I'm all yours tongue.gif

When will you be dead?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 06:34:32
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 10 2008, 09:12 PM) [snapback]416937[/snapback]
You have a PM

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mortonjag 2008-03-13 06:48:02
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 12 2008, 06:57 PM) [snapback]418152[/snapback]
Cider went up 3p. Whisky went up by a whopping 55p ! ohmy.gif

Must be targeting the binge drinking neds who are stoating about town centre's on 15 year old malt whisky blink.gif

Will England keep a disproportionate amount of this Scottish generated income Spurtle?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 06:50:37
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 12 2008, 06:59 PM) [snapback]418156[/snapback]
I remember Strongbow being 45p a can...was 66p last time. Furking shambles this
*burps and falls over*

Glasgow University Union in mid sixties-Cider 9d a pint.

That's about 4p.

Can it be that it was all so simple then?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 06:52:29
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 12 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]418282[/snapback]
Go to Stockholm, Oslo or Toronto on a Friday night and I'll bet you won't see so many scenes like you do in Glasgow or Newcastle. Here it seems that the whole fecking city is steaming and looking for a square go, after a puke and a piss in a doorway that is. Booze is too cheap and too freely available, ask the polis, ambulance and casualty staff who have to clean up the mess every weekend.

More spanking of little pink botties reqired DE.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 06:57:04
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 12 2008, 08:55 PM) [snapback]418214[/snapback]
now there is a debate..... its lunchtime but some call that dinnertime tongue.gif

Greenock in mid forties.

Breakfast


Dinner


Tea


But in other areas of the country it was different. My uncle worked as a ploughman, and always came in for his 'dinner' after a hard day's graft.

I never heard the term 'lunch' used until I went to secondary school-guess where-PISHLEY-where they had ever so la de dah School 'Lunches', for which you were supposed to buy 'dinner tickets' but instead spent the money in the bookies at lunchtime.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 06:58:32
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 12 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]418226[/snapback]
The phrase is "breakfast, lunch and dinner" not "breakfast, dinner, tea".

There's no discussion here. huh.gif

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Things have changed then!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 07:00:19
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 12 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]418235[/snapback]
If ever a sentence was ambiguous it's that one.

Not really WDE-they just forgot to add 'by those who eat lunch at dinner time'!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 07:02:12
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 12 2008, 09:47 PM) [snapback]418261[/snapback]
Have you? I've not.

Presumably because they are reasonable.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 07:07:25 Life means absolutely F*CK ALL

What is the meaning of a brick?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 07:09:56
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 13 2008, 01:21 AM) [snapback]418391[/snapback]
At the request of a ladyfriend of mine I used that mad immac that you then just rinse off with the showerhead on my c*** and balls. Never hurt too much but, once the bush was gone, I realised how f***ing ugly it is down there. Itched like a b*****d growing back in too.

Never again. (Although it does make it look bigger)

It says on the tube to avoid getting it in your eyes.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 07:15:05 It used to be a fairly straightforward DIY job, and replacements for the more common motors are readily available at any decent 'scrappy'.

As suggested, accessibility may be the biggest deterrent to DIY.

Electric motors are subject to natural wear and tear, and the warranties are often invalid-check small print!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 07:21:23
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 12 2008, 11:52 PM) [snapback]418346[/snapback]

It would be easy to make sarcastic comments.

Nice to see them back in football, and I hope they do well.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 07:26:37
QUOTE(ton1901 @ Mar 12 2008, 06:47 PM) [snapback]418141[/snapback]
jamie was awful when he came on, seen him play much better games. his set pieces were pish, barely made a pass and he couldn't keep the ball for 2 secs.

That is either a matter of opinion or pure sh*te.

I'll go for the latter.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 07:28:27
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Mar 12 2008, 09:24 PM) [snapback]418253[/snapback]
I was shocked Jamie never started last night. He played more accurate passes in the short time he had on the field than the rest of his team mates combined against Accies.
I was screaming for that change last night. Seems the obvious one for Saturday as I can't stomach watching another half-arsed "performance" from McGuffie. dry.gif

Who'd be a football manager eh. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-13 07:30:28
QUOTE(Reggio_Emilia_Ton_Army @ Mar 12 2008, 10:10 PM) [snapback]418291[/snapback]
just a shame I couldn't see the match.
1 point is better than lose!
1 bottle of lambrusco is better than water

Three bottles of Lambrusco are MUCH better than water!

One bottle of Brasso is better than three bottles of Lambrusco!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 07:36:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 11:11 PM) [snapback]418331[/snapback]
You missed out a full stop.

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He lives by different rules from the rest!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 07:48:58 Unless some utterly misguided fool makes a personal donation (where are you ya baldy skunk), Gretna will be oot the game just after midday.


Everybody knows what's coming-and no comfort to guys like Alibi.

I can't believe that failed abortion Young was coming out with 'I bet Brooks would do it all over again'.

Mileson and Young-two of a kind.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 07:55:07
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Mar 13 2008, 02:54 AM) [snapback]418401[/snapback]
I DID think that when we signed Jenkins and McGuffie.

However, what I've witnessed since is a midfield devoid of any invention, lacking bite and without any obvious cohesion or understanding.

Looks good on paper but has looked s***e on the park, thus far.

What should have happened has failed to materialise.

Very puzzling when Irons knows Jenkins/McGuffie so well. It will probably need more time, but we ain't got much left.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 07:57:10
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Mar 13 2008, 04:31 AM) [snapback]418406[/snapback]
I know you won't agree but I think we already have that man in Iain Russell.

Stevenson could be the man to create the chances for him if only McInallyIrons would give him 90 mins.

McInally/Irons/ our new manager for the promotion campaign!!!!!

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mortonjag 2008-03-13 07:59:35
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 13 2008, 05:37 AM) [snapback]418409[/snapback]
Hmm. I want Iain to do well, but he's awfully lightweight and I'm concerned about his heart for the battle to stay up. To use technical parlance, he seems to sh1te out of 50/50s constantly, perhaps even challenges where he has a better chance than the defender.

We need a brave striker, we need everyone to be brave.

precisely the accusation whch was levelled at Midge time after time after time, a season or so back.

FFS Donga-I can't remember big Andy venturing near a tackle in his whole time at cappielow! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-13 08:08:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 13 2008, 06:40 AM) [snapback]418411[/snapback]
He was an incredibly wealthy man when he came to Gretna," said chairman Ron MacGregor yesterday. "I think that has diminished a bit, but we are not privy to the details. I think there may have been a dip there.

"This is perhaps the question we can only guess at at this moment," he continued. "Whether he will come through this illness and say, 'hey, wait a moment. I don't want to finish on this note with Gretna'. All I can say is Brooks' passion for Gretna has been amazing over the years. I can't think he won't be interested in what we are doing in the future, but at the moment his recovery is the priority.

"Not long ago he celebrated his 60th birthday," added MacGregor. "There was every expectation he would continue steering the club. He is an experienced financier and accountant by profession. We trusted his judgment regarding the financial affairs of the club."
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http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/sport/Drea...r-as.3862972.jp

I await Alibi's opinion on the above.

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Hopefully he is the only Mr MacGregor who can make such ludicrously contradictory statements!


One thing he has definitely got spot on-NOBODY is privy to Mileson's personal stash except Pony Tail and the Daily Llama.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 08:37:04
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 13 2008, 08:25 AM) [snapback]418444[/snapback]
i understand the rules. f*** along now, you dullard.

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Well you would, wouldn't you!


HIPPIE.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 08:38:23
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 13 2008, 07:40 AM) [snapback]418432[/snapback]
Ask Michel Faucault, he'll provide you with 500 pages of an answer.

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mortonjag 2008-03-13 08:40:31
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 13 2008, 07:45 AM) [snapback]418433[/snapback]
Absolutely. I hate reasonable people.

In direct contradiction to the laws of magnetism.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 08:42:06
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 13 2008, 07:34 AM) [snapback]418430[/snapback]
75% of what you pay for a bottle of Scotch Whisky goes on Tax. I don't think Scotland see's anything near 75% of it back.

So they're stealing our MUNNY?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 08:44:13
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 13 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]418443[/snapback]
No, as per usual certain posters go to extreme lengths to try and win an argument.

I was trying to point out spending hit £3.25bns per annum this year is just a waste of taxpayers money that could be better spent elsewhere like the NHS for instance.

That's an 94% increase on last year spent on fighting a war with a country that really was no threat to us.

Trying to compare the illegal war in Iraq with WWII is ludicrous.

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mortonjag 2008-03-13 08:46:25
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 13 2008, 08:39 AM) [snapback]418448[/snapback]
Luckily it didn't go in ANY of my three eyes wink.gif

I was puzzled-did it actually grow, or did it just look bigger.

There again, was it both?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 08:52:45
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 13 2008, 08:34 AM) [snapback]418445[/snapback]
It was Nelson at Brechin but he's part time and older than Mortonjag !

I'd take Hutton in a heartbeat and if Clyde get relegated it just may happen !

If only!!!


Craig was only three when I joined a practice in his home town. We had Nelsons on our list-goodness I may have stuck a needle in his little pink bottie once upon a time!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 08:56:25
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 13 2008, 08:53 AM) [snapback]418457[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Mar 13 2008, 08:34 AM) [snapback]418445[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It was Nelson at Brechin but he's part time and older than Mortonjag !

I'd take Hutton in a heartbeat and if Clyde get relegated it just may happen !
NO!!!!!!!!

What is it with this club signing small keepers? I want a big guy, at least 6 foot 3, who will come and take crosses and command his area. Bryn Halliwell would be ideal.

Cheat and liar.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 08:59:59
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 13 2008, 08:53 AM) [snapback]418458[/snapback]
Pay no attention to him, or yon other Foucault and his pendulum. Too bloody complicated by half. Shakespeare probably put it better, like ' All the world's a stage...... and we are just actors...... in a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing'

I prefer Shoogly's typically simple take


LIFE IS LIFE NA NA....NA NA NA
mortonjag 2008-03-13 09:03:18
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 13 2008, 08:53 AM) [snapback]418459[/snapback]
Well to be honest the old chest hairs just looked bad. When shaved, looks clean and tidy and no mess.
Keeping the others in check just seems fair to me. We expect our good ladies (well most of them unless you have a fetish for hirsute fuds) to keep themselves tidy - underarms, legs, front bottom etc - so stinks of double standards that they would somehow prefer us to be like a privet hedge whilst we're asking them to say their prayers to the bald lad.

Again, it's all personal choice I suppose. Some girls prefer to remain au naturale and others go for the shaved look. Each to their own. But expecting it to be clean and half ways tidy seems fair - so fair play is good sport - needs to work both ways.

TonInDublin

ps although the first time I saw a girl with a full on Ferdinand (bald cúnt with wavy lips) it was kinda off putting.
Truth be told I've never enjoyed a clabby doo the same way since.

Are not fuds, by definition, hirsute?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 09:11:15
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Mar 13 2008, 08:59 AM) [snapback]418461[/snapback]
Why does everyone in the media accept the fact that Brooks seems to have severed all ties with Gretna because he's recovering from an illness? He is solely responsible for the position they find themselves in, and it doesn't look as though he's going to bail them out of the the situation he created when they are hours from extincition, but I don't recall reading a critical word against him.

They're probably thinking the same as us but cautious about publishing potential libel.

I've taken a fairly active interest in the Gretna saga, and am astonished that it's only now emerging that Mileson's a qualified accountant.

That blows any theories about a poor muddle headed and misguided philanthropist right out of the water.

He could easily have taken steps to decline the SPL place, instead of passing around the 'begging bowl' for a pitch to play on. He could have let them down gently while retaining some respect.

Mileson's no fool, but he made an incredibly foolish blunder, and it seems he's just walked away from Gretna in the hope that it will become a bad dream.

For many-that's exactly what's happened.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 09:18:00
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 13 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]418467[/snapback]
Not necessarily MJ, see my PS regarding the "rio".

TonInDublin

I understood that, but a bald c*nt is a bald c*nt, be it shaven, or naturally alopecic.

A fud, on the other hand is a big hairy c*nt!

I think!

mortonjag 2008-03-13 09:21:02
He's five foot two and he's six foot four
He fights with missiles and with spears
He's all of 31 and he's only 17
He's been a soldier for a thousand years

He's a Catholic, a Hindu, an atheist and a Jane
A Buddhist, a Baptist and a Jew
And he knows he shouldn't kill and he knows he always will
Kill you for me, my friends, and me for you

He's fighting for Canada, he's fighting for France
He's fighting for the USA
and he's fighting for the Russians and he's fighting for Japan
And he thinks he'll put an end to war this way

He's fighting for democracy, he's fighting for the Reds
He's fighting for the good of all
He's the one who must decide who's to live and who's to die
And he never reads the writing on the wall

He's the universal soldier and he is really is to blame
His orders come from far away no more
They come from him and you and me and brothers, can't you see
This is not the way to put an end to war
mortonjag 2008-03-13 09:23:45
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 13 2008, 09:20 AM) [snapback]418470[/snapback]
Right, this might sound weird, but my pubes are straight and they cover up the base of my c***. So when they're all gone you get a good couple of inches there that aren't present when covered in long black hairs.

I disbelieve you-they must be slightly kinky to be pubes!

That's an anatomical/genetic fact.

Show me a straight pube and I'll show you an honest politician.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 09:26:16
QUOTE(Torro @ Mar 13 2008, 09:24 AM) [snapback]418475[/snapback]
very good mortonjag !! - tea over the keyboard

Cocoa to be precise! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-13 09:27:53
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 13 2008, 09:25 AM) [snapback]418476[/snapback]
They're slightly wavy at best. Long and straight(ish).

Just like David Walliams.

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Long and curlies are still pubes!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 09:31:02
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 13 2008, 09:28 AM) [snapback]418479[/snapback]
The only curly hairs I get are on my arse and face.

(make your own jokes about the lack of difference on those two features)

Even my chest hair is straight.

How long is it?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 09:32:53
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 13 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]418481[/snapback]
MJ remembers Buffy Sainte-Marie singing about a universal truth.

Preferred Donovan TBH!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 09:38:29
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 13 2008, 09:33 AM) [snapback]418484[/snapback]
between an inch and two inches

(once again.. we're talking about chest hair here before the jokes come in happy.gif )

Have you ever met a woman with chest hair?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 09:40:13
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 13 2008, 09:38 AM) [snapback]418488[/snapback]
Aye, but Donovan didn't write it, Buffy did.

...and Donovan droned it! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-13 09:41:31
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 13 2008, 09:39 AM) [snapback]418490[/snapback]
A fascist is a fascist whether their skin is white or brown.
I read in The Independent yesterday that Steve Fullerton (last surviving Scot from the British Battalion of The International Brigades) died recently. He was extrememly brave man and I doubt whether he would have come away with anything so nonsensical as 'fighting Franco? Complete waste of money.' You would probably call him an imperialist!!
People these days are so privileged and safe that they have a completely skewed relativist take on what is right and wrong.

Which are immutable and absolute?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 09:42:54
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 13 2008, 09:39 AM) [snapback]418489[/snapback]
Nope. One of my grans pals had about a dozen long grey hairs on her chin tho'.

Indeed, old ladies are prone to developing facial hair and deep voices.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 10:13:24
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 13 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]418497[/snapback]
Wikipedia saving me a trip to the doctor there as MortonJag was freaking me out.

Wikipedia is wrong and not for the first time. It is possible to have almost straight pubes, but they are never completely straight throughout the whole length of the hair shaft.

I picked up this wee snippet to save me delving through my medical tomes.


Straight hair is genetically caused by the shape of hair follicles. Round follicles produce straight hair. Oval or ovoid follicles grow curly hair.
Unless the individual uses straightener or very powerful bug killers on his or her privates, pubic hair is never straight. All pubic hair is curly. It must be curly to perform its survival function for naked humans.

Obviously, we no longer need pubic hair the way we did 12 thousand years ago, but it is still there as a vestigial remnant of our recent evolution.

If a person has straight pubic hair, I would be suspicious that he or she recently had an infection of some type and used poweful chemicals to treat it. Use caution.


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mortonjag 2008-03-13 10:18:56
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 13 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]418507[/snapback]
I want to apologise for being racist towards people who live in the westend and to people whoo have their dinner late afternoon, and also for threatening to blow everyone up. I just think I am a wee hardman after a few strongbow supers. Apologies

No more liquid lunches dinners for you my boy!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 10:22:33
QUOTE(axeman @ Mar 13 2008, 09:49 AM) [snapback]418496[/snapback]
Where do you think his son came from ? He's a weird looking boy that one, definitely a hint of llama there. laugh.gif

camel to be precise, and he'll take the hump at your comments.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 10:27:36
QUOTE(MrX @ Mar 13 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]418498[/snapback]
I don't want to state the obvious or be a complete doom monger, but think the two points dropped at Clyde on Tuesday was an extremely massive blow to our survival hopes.

I think we have a considerably harder run in than either Livi or Clyde, and actually think we have a better chance of catching Livi than finishing above Clyde. The fact that Clyde have Stirling twice to play and Livi have Stirling once makes me mucho worried. Especially, with Clyde at home to them last game of the season and us strugglin to score goals/points.

For me the two big games for us are Morton v Livi and Clyde v Livi, anyone else agree or am I just talking baws! Obviously, every Ton game is a biggie, but I really think Livi are the team to catch as Clyde's run in looks far easier than ours.

It must surely have been obvious to all that nothing short of three points was satisfactory.

I support DI/DC, but will continue to mark their score card a game at a time.

Tuesday night was a poor, poor offering from the guys Shoogly assured us are going to be around for a long time to come.

If we don't beat Partick on Saturday, they'd possibly be as well packing their bags.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 10:29:37
QUOTE(axeman @ Mar 13 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]418515[/snapback]
He'll get his just deserts as well then wink.gif

..probably just go running back to his Mummy.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 10:32:21
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 13 2008, 10:29 AM) [snapback]418519[/snapback]
a further article on Poles going home is on the BBC this morning

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7282923.stm

Soaring pay lures Poles back home


or

POLISH OFF!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 10:33:50
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 13 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]418516[/snapback]
What if I eat breakfast at tea time? Is it then tea or is it still breakfast?

You'll be f*ckin' Hank all day!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 10:36:55
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 13 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]418514[/snapback]
Haha... looks like I am going to the docs after all smile.gif

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To qualify as straight, the unplucked pube must lie in a perfectly straight line of its own accord-even the tinsiest hint of a little kink disqualifies it.

Entirely straight pubes are a genetic impossibility.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 10:39:05
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 13 2008, 10:20 AM) [snapback]418510[/snapback]
Very deep Capuan. I see things slightly differently though. To me, the meaning of life is to attempt to get yer hole as much as possible before ye get so old ye cannae hit a stiffy.

Freud would have agreed, but I've always felt that food comes before fud.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 10:41:15
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 13 2008, 10:38 AM) [snapback]418528[/snapback]
Well they don't look like they've been GHD'd. They're KINDA wavy. I'd classify them as straight before wavy tho'.

I'm gonna need to pluck one and scan it now.

Exactly!!

A miss is as good as a Mrs! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-13 10:43:48 I'm back to thinking we should chuck on any 11 who'll give 100% for 90 minutes.

I thought we'd got better-hopefully Tuesday was just a wee hiccup!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 11:00:09
QUOTE(Ar1tch1e @ Mar 13 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]418535[/snapback]
good luck to them both but sad really about the bitterness.

a majority of the fans who "chased them out of Cappielow" stuck up for them in the early days.
up at peterhead springs to mind.down at stranraer as well.
had enough time,was time to go.so move on.

thought he left with dignity,now he comes out with this rubbish......

What did he ACTUALLY say?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 11:02:52
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 13 2008, 10:57 AM) [snapback]418536[/snapback]
One of those ones where you remember exactly where you were when you first heard.

Still can't comprehend it even after all these years.

Mental illness is impossible to comprehend, as is unadulterated evil.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 11:04:42
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 13 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]418538[/snapback]
Who gives a f***. He's gone now biggrin.gif

I DO!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 11:23:12
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 13 2008, 11:17 AM) [snapback]418541[/snapback]
Daily Record site

He didn't say anything, the person that wrote the article said that he left due to a fall out with the club's supporters. McInally isn't even quoted in the article, it's Martin Clark.

Just a last chance for some people to get their petty digs in dry.gif

Indeed-it's only fair that he's not misquoted.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 15:09:43
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 13 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]418581[/snapback]
A local business has stepped in at the 11th hour and handed them a life line.

Breaking News - Gretna's Saviours.

YOU
JOBBY



I just woke out of a lovely wee snooze, and took that hook, line,and sinker!!!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 15:11:40
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Mar 13 2008, 01:48 PM) [snapback]418599[/snapback]
superb...brightened an otherwise crap day..........

Think ive got a broken leg.....doctors unsure...wait to friday they said on tuesday...if not better and swelling not gone then come back

EH!!!

Can they not x-ray it at the airport? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-13 15:15:33
QUOTE(McCauley87 @ Mar 13 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]418561[/snapback]
You're a bit early, according to Sky Sports News there is a potential investor looking at the finances today sad.gif

Aye, he drives an Aston Martin too! mad.gif mad.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-13 15:19:29
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Mar 13 2008, 12:17 PM) [snapback]418563[/snapback]
A lot of peole seem to forget we were in a similar position not long ago , A community is about to lose a football club , ot something to be celebrated

Hopefully they can get put back to Div 3 and start from Scratch or back to unibond maybe ? They had no place above the 2nd division

Don't worry-they'll be fine!



God sees the little sparrow fall,
It meets His tender view;
If God so loves the little birds,
I know He loves me, too.

Refrain

He loves me, too, He loves me, too,
I know He loves me, too;
Because He loves the little things,
I know He loves me, too.

He paints the lily of the field,
Perfumes each lily bell;
If He so loves the little flow’rs,
I know He loves me well.

Refrain

God made the little birds and flow’rs,
And all things large and small;
He’ll not forget his little ones,
I know He loves them all.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 15:21:13
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Mar 13 2008, 01:20 PM) [snapback]418580[/snapback]
Were their fag-ends and llama hairs found at the scene of the crime?

The llamas are strictly non smoking.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 15:29:07
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 13 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]418582[/snapback]
Before MortonJag screams "I KNEW IT" I got a tribunal against my old work coming up. Date's got switched about constantly and, tied in with getting stuff sorted for the move to Jersey, I left it too late to get a solicitor to represent me. So I'm gonna be all Perry Mason and s***. I intend, if possible, to say "J'accuse!" and "The truth? You can't handle the truth!"

Beyond that I aint got a scooby what to do. I've been told to refer to the head honcho as Mr/Madam Chairman/woman as it's the correct terminology for this kinda case and, in general, just be polite, dress well and don't do stupid things like shout "The truth? You can't handle the truth!"

Anyone in here got a history in law type shenangins gimme any tips?

Just go to jail and be done with it!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 15:33:06
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 13 2008, 01:35 PM) [snapback]418593[/snapback]
Mick pm me your house number and I'll get my dad to phone you tonight. He is a welfare rights officer and deals with tribunals all the time. He will be able to fill you in on what you need to know.

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I'm sure your old man's excellent at screwing the last penny off the state for his sometimes deserving clients Puggs, but Soxy boy's at it.

All this crap about Jersey, and now he's takin' his ex employer to a tribunal, all on his lonesome! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

They're just about to bang him up.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 15:34:41
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Mar 13 2008, 03:07 PM) [snapback]418651[/snapback]
Just seen the funniest "choke on tv moment" ever......

Had to cut the news off after she claimed she couldnt continue....30 seconds of painful coughing and shuffling thne blanked out......

Funny as feck.!

Is she dead?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 15:36:40
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 13 2008, 01:04 PM) [snapback]418573[/snapback]
Are we the only one's in the universe ? Or are there beings on other planets ?

Aye Spurtle-have ye no heard-Bawheid's jist invaded Inglind.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 15:41:17
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 13 2008, 03:35 PM) [snapback]418678[/snapback]
Against the limited company maybe not - however there appears to be a lot of evidence that the club has been trading while insolvent. The bounced cheque that I was given in November is evidence to back that up. Under those circumstances I understand that the directors of the club (who include Brookes Mileson, Ron McGregor adn, I think, Ron McGregor's wife) become personally liable for debts. Maybe one of you accountants will clarify that. I have spoken to the administrators and made them aware of my concerns, pointed them in the direction of certain other firms they should have a look at, and suggested to them that writing a cheque without funds is fraud 9which they agreed was the case).

The rules on administration and bankruptcy etc are crazy - an invitation to people to run up debts with no intention of paying them. Gretna should have gone amateur as soon as the money tree was cut down, not struggled on burning money that wasn't even theirs to burn.

If they can't fulfil Saturday's game, the SPL should expel them forthwith. Oh, and any income from the Celtic game if it went ahead should be frozen.

I just have this dreadful premonition that old Brooksy's about to have a relapse! tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-13 15:44:57
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 13 2008, 03:23 PM) [snapback]418671[/snapback]
Ernie as a long time critic off the previous management team , not just tactically but in terms of quality of players and the glut of midfield players .

We should know that there is too many weak links in that squad and not enough or any options at the weakest points .

Irons can get them moving the ball about quicker which will help longterm as a team but individually some make too many basic errors to play at this level .

At this stage of the league everyone is fighting for something we have no divine right to think we are the only ones in that situation .

I admit we are a better side than Clyde , and they took full advantage of the mistake and weather conditions .
It could have been far worse if Clyde had taken full points .

Considering we were in freefall , confidence and belief must have been rock bottom there won't be a quick fix .

As I said Chris-one game at a time-if we avoid the drop, they have the chance to build.

If they don't they are a failure.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 15:48:28
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Mar 13 2008, 03:08 PM) [snapback]418652[/snapback]
Is mortonjag still spouting?
All I can see is this...

Will some kind soul explain to that clown that he's hit his little huff button?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 15:51:28
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Mar 13 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]418648[/snapback]
With Gretna about to go down the swannee, I doubt the SFL will want to end up having to entice two clubs to join at the end of this season.

Best of luck to both - guess our crowd will be down on Saturday owing to the fanny contingent of our support going to watch the Shire and indulge in their favourite pastime of yelling at McInally. tongue.gif

Do enjoy!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 15:56:56
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 13 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]418549[/snapback]
Shows how people see things differently wink.gif

He never hides, always looks for the ball and can at times drive well with the ball from deep, one such run led to the Jenkins shot that was headed off the line in the first half. As I said in the MotM thread, his quality isn't always great but he never hides. Guff needs dropped as well, he's not doing enough in games and needs a boot up the arse, so hopefully a short spell on the bench will do this.

Scotty is a 'grinding out results' man. It looks like we're going to need as many as possible for the next week or few.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 16:01:35
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 13 2008, 03:48 PM) [snapback]418685[/snapback]

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Obviously a botched attempt at burning evidence.

How are the mighty fallen-I'm just waiting to see Deuchar's boots on E-Bay for 50p
mortonjag 2008-03-13 16:06:07 Well!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 16:09:08
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 13 2008, 04:05 PM) [snapback]418697[/snapback]
Ah wish you were on another planet..............or maybe you are ohmy.gif

Nope-I'm on what bawheid woud pronounce 'URF'.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 16:11:00
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 13 2008, 04:09 PM) [snapback]418705[/snapback]
Or the laws of electrostatics.

Which governs BH's behaviour with Hank.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 16:14:24
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 13 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]418709[/snapback]
Surely that's sexually charged rather than electrically charged?

I was merely alluding to the battery element.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 17:25:54 Not good news-every little helps.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 17:32:27
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 13 2008, 05:00 PM) [snapback]418720[/snapback]
Small article from today's Tele

Roger Graham has got it spot on here. Now compare this article to the some of the idiotic nonsense written by Jim Traynor or Hugh Keevins.

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Looks like somebody was listening to old 'Jag' all along.

Never saw it in the Tilly-mind!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 17:37:01
QUOTE(Marc @ Mar 13 2008, 04:11 PM) [snapback]418708[/snapback]
Where is the option for Absolutely ?

I hope you're not suggesting that the result of this poll will be inaccurate! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-13 17:54:14
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 13 2008, 05:44 PM) [snapback]418728[/snapback]
Odds for East Stirling to finish bottom: 1-2
Odds for a "can't fault the effort from the lads" quote in Sunday's paper: 1-5 tongue.gif
East stirling have a wee (wee) bit of money to spend, so it'll be interesting to see how they change the squad without the influence of Rae.
I'd expect a wee short term boost but nothing much long term.

I think JM will do quite well at E Stirling, though it's obviously just a 'pocket money' job. He claimed he 'thrived on pressure' but I don't really believe he did. Should make interesting reading over the coming weeks.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 17:58:01
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 13 2008, 05:41 PM) [snapback]418727[/snapback]
Aw, I like Jackie, I hope she's OK. sad.gif

Take it you've never met her then!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 18:00:25
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Mar 13 2008, 05:44 PM) [snapback]418729[/snapback]
It will be in the Eagle Building on Bothwell Street, Glasgow (near a Weatherspoons pub).

Went to an employment tribunal a few years ago with Uni (was doing a module in Employment Law at the time) and the case we heard the guy represented himself. He lost. All the little technical things he failed to do and despite him having a decent chance of winning with a lawyer he failed on his own. He failed to ask certain questions, focused too much on particular aspects of his case.

Good luck!

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mortonjag 2008-03-13 18:02:37 Ferguslie Park Avenue has many tales to tell.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 18:04:00
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 13 2008, 06:02 PM) [snapback]418738[/snapback]
I'm sure Alonso will make Hamilton's life difficult when being lapped.
Raikkonen to win - Ferrari dominant.
As it should be. cool.gif

Hamilton's a one off. His talent is ahead of his years and he'll win hands down this time.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 18:14:30 In the greater scheme of things we are but a grain of sand in the Sahara desert.

Does that not tend to quantify us?

SAHARA PIPELINE laid by 2000 men in 28 days.

What a woman!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 18:16:59
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 13 2008, 06:07 PM) [snapback]418743[/snapback]
I have met her, many times.

Really, and she was nice to you.

You are clearly well named to charm that one.

Female newsreaders are infamous for getting to the top by treading on anything and everything!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 18:18:36
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 13 2008, 06:16 PM) [snapback]418750[/snapback]
it's ironic that auchendodgy street, where i used to buy truly crap gear, is now where i park my car for the game.

if only the residents would tone down the horrendous xmas displays, it would be a nice wee street. but they really are unforgivable.

Noted my friend! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-13 18:27:59
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 13 2008, 06:20 PM) [snapback]418754[/snapback]
Indeed she was. I tend to find that if you're nice to someone they'll reciprocate.

You should try it one day. wink.gif

I tend to find that when I'm nice to someone, he, or she, does indeed reciprocate.

Now back to yer Bird-well of course she's capable of being 'nice'. I can assure you she's also capable of being a 'nasty piece of goods'.


FACT!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 18:30:34
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Mar 13 2008, 06:21 PM) [snapback]418756[/snapback]
I actually got tested twice int he last 5 years, and both times they were at or above 136 (136 and 139).
136 and above is considered "genious." No, I'm nto saying anything about my scores because it all depends ont he testing, the environment, and the like.

By the way, the second test that I did (the 139) was a day after having Demerol in my system because of a liver biopsy.
*COUGH* *COUGH* BULLSH1T *COUGH* *COUGH* tongue.gif

You seem to disbelieve me Trick.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 18:33:09
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 13 2008, 06:21 PM) [snapback]418757[/snapback]
there is no point. in fact it's a bit of a daft question.

we're just noisy, stupid monkeys blabbering on, f***ing, killing, posturing, posing etc and taking ourselves very seriously.

i like mr edwards' shakespeare quotation and i think it's the most accurate philosophy i've heard.

I'd imagine philosophical monkeys would describe themselves as noisy, stupid reptiles.

What is the meaning of a snowflake?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 18:35:54
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 13 2008, 06:23 PM) [snapback]418758[/snapback]
mind you don't slever on your notepad, bawjaws. i would hate to miss out on the introduction, vandalism or whatever it is you're hinting at.

I wasn't hinting at anything-I just wanted to catch a glimpse of the self proclaimed ugliest man in the world. I already know your car-it's on the signature.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 18:37:47
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 13 2008, 06:29 PM) [snapback]418763[/snapback]
Bit like yersel then ya bitter auld fart. laugh.gif

You have not denied it!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 18:40:03
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 13 2008, 06:33 PM) [snapback]418766[/snapback]
Following your description of Brian Souter as a 'homophobic fascist', I assume this guy also fits that description?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotlan...est/7294193.stm

If not, why not?

Closet pufe more like.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 18:43:24
QUOTE(tontric @ Mar 13 2008, 03:54 PM) [snapback]418689[/snapback]
I think its a bit harsh to suggest a management team should pack their bags when they haven't had a single transfer window to adjust the team. Even if we were relegated I'd expect Irons and Collins to be at the helm at the start of next season and rightly so.

I still think they could have done more by getting a few loan signings in but they need a transfer window before we can properly judge them.

Have they been appointed to keep us up?

I believe they have-Shoogly has not stated otherwise, and if indeed he secretly wants relegation, he'd surely have been better hanging on to JM.

Then again, that's what he CLAIMED he wanted to do!!!!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-13 18:46:07
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Mar 13 2008, 06:02 PM) [snapback]418740[/snapback]
Ficked, screwed, doon the swanney, wheres ma paddle, bear grylls withoot piss watter, sinking ship, look out for that mountain, is that a suicide bomber..................boom, watch you dont hit that car...........smash, fick I've left ma parachute. in a nutshell they will be gone by monday and I for one cant wait for this joke of scottish football to disappear. they have as i have said brought nothing to the bigger table of scottish football and i blame the beeks. I remember years ago when falkirk were not allowed into the spl, what changed for them hee haw and thier stadium was a 1,000,000 times worse. it just makes a mockery of our game.

I must admit though I admire guys like Skelton for turning up for training and when asked why he says "its my job". we should go for him no doubt.........................commited even when he is not getting paid.

Skelton was there before the Pony Tailed charlatan.You really have to admire the boy's attitude.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 18:51:25
QUOTE(stuart @ Mar 13 2008, 06:47 PM) [snapback]418774[/snapback]
I don't like the original poster's lack of concern for the plight of Miss Bird who I like too.

I do hope she is ok.

Do Birds still make custard?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 19:00:13 Over the years there have been Glasgow city streets which became 'no go' areas even for the 'Polis'.

At one point in the eighties Blackhill had about three separate streets in that category, and the local cop shop had bars on the outside of the windows.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 19:02:03
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 13 2008, 07:00 PM) [snapback]418782[/snapback]
could one of you knee-jerks provide a link to the full text of the lecture, then we can make our own minds up smile.gif

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You will decide on the good Bishop's true feelings on the basis of a lecture? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-13 19:04:23
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 13 2008, 06:57 PM) [snapback]418779[/snapback]
the original question referred to the point of life, not the meaning, which i would suggest is a different question. i'm amused by the way that the question contained the word 'hell' rolleyes.gif

of course, to the simple atheist, the answer to both questions is no point / no meaning, so boozehound's answer might seem as reasonable as any.

i do think it's a bit of a cop out to say 'nothing' and leave it at that though. you really do need to have something to get you to turn up for more, day after day.

if nothing else, i've got a lifelong challenge to master that fiendish instrument, the guitar sad.gif

A bad workman blames his tools Trumpet, and talking of tools, the POINT of life is the penis.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 19:08:50
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 13 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]418784[/snapback]
How many standard deviations from the mean would be indicated by an IQ of 200 and what would that mean in probability terms?

hint: only high IQ performers need attempt this question

I believe the answer to be a barrel of Christmas Cards.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 19:10:39
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 13 2008, 07:05 PM) [snapback]418786[/snapback]
so you've not read the text?

No need Trumpet-when it comes to the Catholic clergy I just expect the standard deviation.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 19:11:41
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 13 2008, 07:06 PM) [snapback]418787[/snapback]
you misunderstand, grasshopper (again)

I misunderstand nothing Trumpet.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 19:13:21
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 13 2008, 07:12 PM) [snapback]418795[/snapback]
i think you'll find belief is in another thread, sir

The answer is a barrel of Christmas cards.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 19:18:03
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 13 2008, 07:09 PM) [snapback]418791[/snapback]
although he plays a mean pinball sad.gif



Ever since I was a young boy I played the silver ball
From Soho down to Brighton I must have played them all
But I ain't seen nothing like him in any amusement hall
That deaf, dumb and blind kid sure plays a mean pinball

He stands like a statue, becomes part of the machine
Feeling all the bumpers, always playing clean
He plays by intuition, the digit counters fall
That deaf, dumb and blind kid sure plays a mean pinball

He's a pinball wizard, there has to be a twist
A pinball wizard's got such a supple wrist
How do you think he does it - I don't know
What makes him so good

He ain't got no distractions, can't hear no buzzes and bells
Don't see lights a-flashing, he plays by sense of smell
Always has a replay, never tilts at all
That deaf, dumb and blind kid sure plays a mean pinball

He can't beat me now I've always been the champ
I know every trick, no freak's gonna beat my hand

Even on my usual table, he can beat the best
His disciples lean him in and he just does the rest
He's got crazy flipper fingers, I've never seen him fall
That deaf, dumb and blind kid sure plays a mean pinball

He's a pinball wizard, there has to be a twist
A pinball wizard's got such a supple wrist

He's a pinball wizard, he's scored a trillion more
A pinball wizard, the world's new pinball lord
He's scoring more, he's scoring more

I thought I was the Bally table king
But I just handed my pinball crown to him, to him, to him
mortonjag 2008-03-13 19:23:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 13 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]418797[/snapback]


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Riddle me this ... the BBC claims that the Pony Tailed charlatan poured 8,000,000 pounds into Gretna FC

I don't think that the Pony Tailed charlatan had a brain infection.

But can medical science prove that he had a brain
?

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Pouring money into a loss making venture does not necessarily indicate anencephaly-I'm sure Mr Rae would agree with that.

Microcephaly may be the more accurate term.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 19:24:02
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 13 2008, 07:22 PM) [snapback]418803[/snapback]
.. in case the allusion was lost on younger readers

Nice lyrics and nice choon!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 19:27:25
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 13 2008, 07:23 PM) [snapback]418806[/snapback]
isn't he handsome wub.gif


Isn't she lovely
Isn't she wonderfull
Isn't she precious
Less than one minute old
I never thought through love we'd be
Making one as lovely as she
But isn't she lovely made from love

Isn't she pretty
Truly the angel's best
Man, i'm so happy
We have been heaven blessed
I can't believe what god has done
through us he's given life to one
But isn't she lovely made from love


Londie, it could have not been done
Without you who conceived the one
That's so very lovely made from love

Isn't she lovely
Isn't she wonderfull
Isn't she precious
Less than one minute old
I never thought through love we'd be
Making one as lovely as she
So very lovely made from love
mortonjag 2008-03-13 19:29:25
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 13 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]418775[/snapback]
She's presenting Reporting Scotland as I type and I'm happy to report that she appears to have suffered no ill effects. smile.gif

Will you be shagging her later?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 19:30:25
QUOTE(princessTON @ Mar 13 2008, 07:22 PM) [snapback]418804[/snapback]
Only if i can be arsed. rolleyes.gif

I bet you can't cook tongue!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 19:32:47
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 13 2008, 07:20 PM) [snapback]418802[/snapback]
fate should ensure that we finish 9th and stay up due to the demise of gretna

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Take nothing for granted in Scottish football Trumpet.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 19:34:34
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 13 2008, 07:31 PM) [snapback]418811[/snapback]
Easy tiger. rolleyes.gif

In my dreams perhaps.

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I'm just SO disappointed-I expected MUCH better!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 20:06:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 13 2008, 07:45 PM) [snapback]418815[/snapback]
Microcephaly may be the more accurate term.

So, in that case, he would have required microsurgery during his hospital stay ??

And now he is cured and therefore pulled the pin ??

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No, he pulled the 'plug'. I'm told that Alibi is creeping about the grounds of 'Llama leap' at this very moment, looking for a vantage point from which to lob his grenade!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 20:11:04
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 13 2008, 08:04 PM) [snapback]418823[/snapback]

Very few lines to read between-he's got to be seen to play it by the book.

Gretna are no more!!!


Long live Gretna FC. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-13 20:17:29
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 13 2008, 07:48 PM) [snapback]418817[/snapback]
Hmm.... bugger.

What sorta things did he bugger up?

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Sounds like the biggest mistake he made was thinking they'd believe his honest face.

Those tribunals are supposed to be informal, but they still resemble law courts, and those acting for employers know ALL the tricks.

For that reason alone it's CRAZY to go in without a prepared case and representation.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 20:24:11
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 13 2008, 07:57 PM) [snapback]418820[/snapback]
and understand nothing, i hope?

I've always had great difficulty with the concept of 'nothing'.





Perhaps I had a wicked childhood
Perhaps I had a miserable youth
But somwhere in my wicked, miserable past
There must have been a moment of truth

For here you are, standing there, loving me
Whether or not you should
So somewhere in my youth or childhood
I must have done something good

Nothing comes from nothing
Nothing ever could

So somewhere in my youth or childhood
I must have done something good


For here you are, standing there, loving me
Whether or not you should


So somewhere in my youth or childhood
I must have done something good


Nothing comes from nothing
Nothing ever could


So somewhere in my youth

Or childhood

I must have done something . . .

Something good
mortonjag 2008-03-13 20:25:41
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 13 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]418831[/snapback]
so do you sit on the setee or the sofa while eating your tv dinners?

I sit on my arse for my tea.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 20:27:49
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 13 2008, 08:23 PM) [snapback]418832[/snapback]
Sorry McB but I think the bish is talking pish. A wee bit Christian charity wouldn't go amiss. 'Secularism is worse than sectarianism' eh? I don't think so. blink.gif

Does this Bishop chap dislike pufes?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 20:29:01
QUOTE(thedonn @ Mar 13 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]418836[/snapback]
what a chippalata

link?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 20:33:48
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 13 2008, 08:29 PM) [snapback]418841[/snapback]
And I'm sure the Bishop's boss would wholeheartedly agree with everything he said.

I find it extremely difficult to understand how Tom can on the one hand call Souter a 'homophobic fascist' while the leaders of his very own religious faith have exactly the same views. dry.gif

I can't imagine Mr Bam seeing his religious leaders as fascists.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 22:00:51
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 13 2008, 08:32 PM) [snapback]418844[/snapback]
I've still got all the correspondance between both parties and I'm going over it all with a fine tooth comb. Making notes and the like and I'm gonna prep my witnesses. I'm quietly confident.

Especially as I just get a letter through informing me that my former employer's lawyer is no longer representing them in this case. If I couldn't get a lawyer a fortnight ago I wonder how they can manage with a week to go.

Have ACAS not been involved?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 22:03:47
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 13 2008, 08:40 PM) [snapback]418850[/snapback]
the penis mightier than the sward - not according to bill shankly

The penis often mighter than this horde Trumpet
mortonjag 2008-03-13 22:06:59
QUOTE(El gofer @ Mar 13 2008, 09:12 PM) [snapback]418857[/snapback]
Bishop Devine is reknowned for his conservative rhetoric. He came out with soon me line that he sympathised with the Conservatives on moral issues.

Not surprising. Catholic doctrine does not agree with homosexuality. No real news here.
There are clergy that I know well as friends who woulld not be as reactionary as Old Joe.

The Fascists analogy reminds me of the Father Ted episode when Ted says "No NO! I am not a fascist, i am a priest!! There is a clear difference. Fascists dress in black and go around telling people what to do, whereas priests............"

Aye but is he a fascist homophobe?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 22:12:23
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Mar 13 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]418858[/snapback]
its cold!!!!!!!!

A hand in Bird's bush is worth two in Bush's bird
mortonjag 2008-03-13 22:17:40
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 13 2008, 09:46 PM) [snapback]418870[/snapback]
Blackhill even in its heyday had nothing on the Wine Alley in Govan, it was Rottweiller country at its most grim.

When was wine alley in its heyday?


I'm talking about streets in my living memory (or working memory).

Nothing in the Govan area post 1980 come close to the worst of Blackhill, or Barrowfield for that matter.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 22:23:33
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 13 2008, 10:14 PM) [snapback]418888[/snapback]
Whether or not Christianity is a homophobic faith is open for debate. I suppose Christians can regard homosexual practice as a sin without being homophobic, in the same way that they see heterosexual sex outside marriage as sinful without being 'heterophobic'. (is that a word?) If you're saying that all practising Catholics are either homophobic or hypocritical about the issue then I think you're wrong.

All have sinned and come short of the glory of God-born in sin and shapen in iniquity, so why do they dislike the poor pufes so much?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 22:28:43
QUOTE(Kaney @ Mar 13 2008, 10:04 PM) [snapback]418884[/snapback]
That wouldnt work though.

If striling were to lose the playoff, 2 teams would be coming up, with only 1 going down...
I do apologise if you're already saying thats with Gretna dropping to division 2 aswell, but I think it looks more like they'll close down completley?

Gretna are well and truly f*cked. It's all over bar the shouting.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 22:35:13
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Mar 13 2008, 10:24 PM) [snapback]418891[/snapback]
Sorry Marx, i meant the Tenement era tongue.gif
Correct, Mum and her sisters lived in Ladyburn St when they were young and she mentioned Chalmers st quite a few times
I would agree with that, brother lives in Provanmill and ive wandered through Blackhill a few times wondering when i was getting jumped.

Indeed Gibby-I worked for Air Call (overnight emergency service) in Greater Glasgow from 1982-85. We covered the whole city, and all the big schemes had bad streets, but there were only two in the whole City where you automatically went in with a Police escort, and both were in Blackhill-one was Acrehill St., and the other slips my mind at present.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 22:41:46
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 13 2008, 10:36 PM) [snapback]418900[/snapback]
It is a pity that a lot of hard working, good people are tarnished by a minority of bam-pots.

The sad fact is HT that in the streets I'm talking about all the hard working and good people had gone, but more generally it's sad to hear folk describe a whole area-Drumchapel is a good example on the basis of the worst of its residents.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 22:43:56
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 13 2008, 10:37 PM) [snapback]418901[/snapback]
Does the Pope have a wooden dick? blink.gif

All twelve inches, but doesn't use it as a rule.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 22:46:06
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 13 2008, 10:31 PM) [snapback]418898[/snapback]
Are you a six sigma black belt? Now that would be impressive.

He wears a sequinned suspender belt-more like.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 22:50:40
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Mar 13 2008, 10:46 PM) [snapback]418908[/snapback]
It amuses me the way these administrator guys look so earnest & have perfected the art of sincerity and looking about to greet with the massive weight they now have on their shoulders.

2 days ago he was probably closing down a chippy in Hull due to depleted cod stocks and today it's "we this, we that, if I can put a team" out etc etc.

I reckon they must have a prize in the office Christmas party - "next football club to go tits up, you can go manager sorry I mean administrator"!

Well I suppose they are a bit like undertakers-it wouldn't do to look too jolly on the job, even if you're laughing all the way to the bank.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 22:55:00
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Mar 13 2008, 10:52 PM) [snapback]418914[/snapback]
There's someone missing! Where's the Willowman blink.gif

Indeed he's been conspicuous by his absence-maybe he's launching a last ditch attempt to save Gretna.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 23:01:10
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 13 2008, 10:53 PM) [snapback]418916[/snapback]
Drove a bus for Arriva up the Drum , superb !! At night anymore than two folk a a bus stop you didn't stop . A load a wanes would camp at the top of wee hill and fire golf balls at the bus at regular intervals .
.

The one good thing was the bin men took everything I was amazed at the household stuff that was uplifted , then I was told well if they don't lift it it gets thrown at them next week .

Not all areas of the Drum are/were bad though. Mind you one of my fondest memories is of mobile grocers vans doing business at three and four in the morning-I guess it was mainly bootleg videos, hash etc. The new video age had dawned by 1983 and half of the Drum was awake throughout most of any given night!

Another bizarre memory from those days. When Dallas was on telly, the call rate dropped to a trickle, and the minute it ended the Calpol delivery service was up to speed again.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 23:02:48
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 13 2008, 10:53 PM) [snapback]418915[/snapback]
Barbara or Laura?

Yes!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 23:04:15
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 13 2008, 10:51 PM) [snapback]418912[/snapback]
All I can say is
The sooner they start the backshift - the better!

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mortonjag 2008-03-13 23:10:53
QUOTE(Marc @ Mar 13 2008, 11:00 PM) [snapback]418924[/snapback]
I think it will be rolleyes.gif

I would have voted for absolutely if the option was there mad.gif

That was an absolute blunder-I apologise. I shall check with my friend Trumpet to see if the statistical validity of the result has been jeopardised!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 23:14:41 My darling politicians-true SCUM. They really bring out the worst in me-Guy Fawkes was a goody.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 06:32:39 CAVALIER


Showing arrogant or offhand disregard; dismissive: a cavalier attitude toward the suffering of others.





'CAVALIER IN HIS ACTIONS': Alex Salmond
Scotland's First Minister Alex Salmond was "cavalier" in his actions over a controversial planning application by US tycoon Donald Trump, according to a damning Holyrood report.

Mr Salmond showed "exceptionally poor judgment" at best and "a worrying lack of awareness about the consequences of his actions" , a committee of MSPs said.

Last night, however, the inquiry into the way ministers handled Mr Trump's application for a £1bn golf resort in Aberdeenshire had broken down into a ruthlessly partisan exercise.

The 55-page report produced by the parliament's local government committee was unusual in Holyrood terms in the way it carried dissenting positions on almost every paragraph. The three SNP MSPs on the committee dissented from the most critical findings.
The report came up with the key verdict: "The committee believes that far from taking a precautionary approach, the First Minister was cavalier in his actions and displayed, at best, exceptionally poor judgment and a worrying lack of awareness about the consequences of his actions."

The committee said it did not accept the Trump development was of "national importance," nor that it was of such significance as to merit "one in a million" treatment. The report suggested that the purpose of the Trump meeting with Mr Salmond and the chief planner on December 3 and 4 was not to seek advice on legal processes but to emphasise the Trump Organisation's concern at the November 29 refusal of planning permission and to ask if Mr Salmond could set up a meeting with chief planner Jim MacKinnon.

The majority of MSPs on the committee said they were "very concerned" that John Swinney did not obtain legal or official advice in writing before deciding to call in the application. They said it was clear that the application was called in because it had been refused, adding: "It is the view of the committee that the Cabinet Secretary acted inappropriately and potentially opened his decision to legal challenge."

In their criticism of Mr Salmond, the MSPs said that as a constituency MSP for Gordon he was not obliged to meet Trump's representatives, had no particular planning expertise, and could have declined to meet them.

He had never acted in this way on any other development, had no detailed knowledge of the planning process, and acknowledged he was constrained in what he could discuss.

Given all this, said the report, it was "astonishing" that Mr Salmond did not perceive there was a risk his actions might be open to question and that there could be a legal action.




Chickens coming home to roost already Spurtle-what a shower of arrogant little nappy rashers led by a nobody disguised as a tumshie headed scarecrow.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 06:47:44
QUOTE(bigstu22 @ Mar 14 2008, 12:25 AM) [snapback]418950[/snapback]
All Greenock streets are for lightweights. I was born and brought up in the backstreets of Kilmacolm-where you'd get a silver spoon in your back as soon as you turned it tongue.gif

I was born in the Rankin, and brought up in Greenock, the Port, and Kilmacolm.

Kilmacolm was by far the worst-huge risk of being killed on any of its streets by old ladies in Ford Prefects, or Morris Oxfords.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 06:54:10
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 14 2008, 12:36 AM) [snapback]418954[/snapback]
Hey, enough of that old fella. I can still whip up a stiffy on demand, so ye can keep the batteries for your Stanna stairlift.

Jesus, there is no end to jealousy on this rag.

You can have a wee shot any time you like-it takes two quite comfortably once you've got the position correct.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 06:56:52
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 14 2008, 06:22 AM) [snapback]418967[/snapback]
I think I know enough about Devine and Souter to conclude that the pair of them would like to change laws in order to discriminate against homosexuals. What's really unforgiveable about Devine is that he's apparently fond of Mad Mel Gibson. laugh.gif

....and secretly wants somebody to blaze his saddle. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-14 07:02:01
QUOTE(Marc @ Mar 13 2008, 11:55 PM) [snapback]418942[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif ermmm... Ok

He's usually quite prompt-I suspect the equation for this one is a bit complicated-he's perhaps mixing up standard deviations with llama shagging.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 07:03:34
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Mar 13 2008, 11:22 PM) [snapback]418938[/snapback]
The Buckie keeper had an excellent game against us, could be worth scouting out guys like that as well as what is available in the SFL.
I don't think McGurn is all that bad though, will benefit immensely for Wylie imo.

...and he still finds time to run his off sales.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 07:08:33
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Mar 13 2008, 11:13 PM) [snapback]418935[/snapback]
Bit early to use words like "inept", but I will say that he doesn't seem to have much of an eye for making a good change, something I think we also witnessed over the two cup games against Gretna too.

That said though, I think it would be a wee bit unfair to judge too harshly on that front considering the limitations of the squad he inherited- e.g., a no proper full-backs, and no real strikers to compete for the places available. Still though, zero marks for imagination so far.

That's what's concerning me. Forget August, and concentrate on one game at a time. I'm convinced Rae wants us to stay up, and I'm equally convinced that the DI/DC signing was made without much time for thought or planning.

They should be judged on what they can achieve RIGHT NOW with what's available to them. That's what they took on board.

Perfectly simple, and no place for excuses.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 07:13:15
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 14 2008, 07:06 AM) [snapback]418974[/snapback]
Cavalier ?? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Labour politicians like Duncan McNeil pontificating about so called wrong doings is an absolute affront. The man and his party have no shame !

The committee (made up of mostly of opposition MSP's) could not find a shred of evidence of any wrong doing at all !

And it it's amazing how the gullable like you Doc are taken in by the unionist press very biased slant on things.

Salmond is "slated" for not breaking the ministerial code and Wendy is "vindicated" for breaking the law." blink.gif

This committee was nothing more than a group of opposition MSP's trying to taint Salmond's reputation and couldn't lay a glove on him.

Why don't they go after the man who tried and failed to, in parliament, tar Salmond with the brush of sleeze. Nichol Stephen and his 3 houses !

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FFS-I'm so sorry-I seem to have misjudged poor Bawheid yet again. Have you got his shirt ironed yet BTW?
mortonjag 2008-03-14 07:45:32
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 14 2008, 07:35 AM) [snapback]418978[/snapback]
I'm finalising things before I move on Thursday and so far behind getting my new place ready I need some help - any plumbers on the board loking for some work - probably a couple of days worth (new bathroom needs fitted)

PM me if you can actually help before Thursday

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I've fitted a couple of bathrooms in the last year or so, but I'm ponderously slow, and a perfectionist who drives everybody else crazy.

Modern flexy fittings have turned all but the most complicated plumbing jobs into 'lego' stuff, especially if you're just hauling out and replacing.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 07:48:08
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 14 2008, 07:14 AM) [snapback]418977[/snapback]
I'll iron them, you lift them rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-14 07:55:05 Brooks Mileson: 'This club is in my soul. I would have ended up croaking if I had not come to Gretna'

Tycoon behind Gretna, who face Clyde in the Scottish Cup today, tells Nick Harris about his grand design


Saturday, 4 February 2006


Brooks Mileson is one of Britain's wealthiest businessmen but he could easily pass for a roadie. His fortune could have bought access to many glamorous boardrooms. Instead, he has been a philanthropist to 70 non-league clubs, and owns the Scottish minnows, Gretna.


His medical record suggests he should be on his last legs, if not expired. He broke his back at 11 and was told he would never walk again. His hips were damaged and he subsequently lost a kidney. Now 58, he's had two heart attacks, suffers from the debilitating condition ME and his daily diet consists of 100 cigarettes and Lucozade.

"And coffee," he adds, pouring his third mug in an hour. "And if I'm away from the wife, I do like a bag of chips. I run on adrenaline."

He evidently comes from hardy Wearside stock, raised with four younger siblings on the Pennywell council estate in Sunderland. His parents are still alive, now living in Spain.

Mileson's perseverance speaks for itself. In 1982 he was "potless" after redundancy. He set up a construction company, then branched out into insurance. He later sold one company for £17m and another for £46.8m, but retains a wide portfolio, including property, insurance and software. He will not confirm his worth - widely put at £36m-plus - but concedes "I do all right."

Football is his passion, hence his donations to the likes of Whitby Town, the Northern League (which he sponsors), and Carlisle United - his first love. He once tried to buy them, but was thwarted by Michael Knighton. Mileson also loves animals, and has a menagerie on his estate comprising ostriches, emus, rheas, wallabies ("they breed like buggery"), monkeys, capibara, 130 horses, Highland cattle, pigs, goats and a herd of deer. "People know I can't turn them away," he says. "A football fan from Dundee recently asked me to take in some African spurred tortoises. What can you do?"

Even for a rags-to-riches tycoon of some eccentricity - he hires jugglers for pre-match entertainment, stands on the terraces, and has been known to let everyone in for nothing - his gusto is still exceptional as he spends two hours debunking myths about his tenure at Gretna.

They were admitted to the Scottish League in 2002. With Mileson's backing from 2003, they romped to the Third Division title last season, winning it with a record tally of points (98) and goals (130). They top the Second Division and promotion is expected. A third successive step up next season - a tougher assignment but feasible - would represent a leap from nowhere to the SPL in three years.

Of immediate concern is today's Scottish Cup fourth-round match at First Division Clyde, the shock third-round conquerors of Celtic. Clyde are at home, yet Gretna are the favourites. "We've never got this far before," Mileson says. "But we're ambitious to get into the First Division ourselves, so this will be another measure of how far we've come."

A common misconception is that Mileson is blowing the bank at Gretna. It has been claimed that the transfer budget and wages are sky high, that a planned 6,000-seat stadium is a monument to folly (average gates are 1,200), and that the whole venture is an unsustainable dash up the league.

"People say we're buying the league," Mileson says. "Rubbish. We've got a good manager [Rowan Alexander, whose enthusiasm lured Mileson in the first place] who finds good players. Our record signing cost £60,000. We've spent a couple of hundred thousand in my whole time here. As for wages, the lower leagues in England and the Conference pay more. Nobody here is even on a four-figure weekly wage.

"And it's not us who want 6,000 seats. We're a small club, we'll always be a small club. But if we have SPL ambitions, we need 6,000 seats. It's the rule."

Mileson does not put a figure on his total outlay, but it is "a few million, not many millions". The cash has also paid for a club academy, based in Penrith, and tie-ups with 150 schools, providing free coaching far beyond the town, and coaching and fitness expertise in David Holdsworth, once of Birmingham, and Viv Busby, a one-time FA Cup finalist with Fulham. They and others have been attracted not by money but by a dream of a thriving, community-based club, run professionally and punching way above its weight.

"I think its the moral responsibility of a club to become involved in the community," Mileson says. He says he is at Gretna for good, and that his son Craig, 29, already on board full-time, "will be here after me." What has always driven Mileson is the accident, aged 11, when he broke his back after being crushed by sandstone while larking in a quarry.

"That was probably the main determining point in my life. I thought 'I'm not going to lie on my back for the rest of my life'. I started to drag myself round the furniture. Eventually I walked, and then ran."

Incredibly, he became a cross-country runner, finishing third in the 1966 national junior championships. "I did it because they said I couldn't. The word 'can't' doesn't sit very well with me.

"This club is in my soul now. My specialist [who treats his ME] says this has put years on my life. I'd probably have ended up croaking if I hadn't come to Gretna."




Looks like this may now be a suicide pact! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-14 08:40:18
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 14 2008, 08:16 AM) [snapback]418983[/snapback]
OK, I'll try.

Mathewson, I don't know this gut at all, so can't comment.

Souter, well his contribution was legal so there's no problem with that. Whether or not it was morally right to accept it though, is a different question. I've already said I think it's possible to believe homosexuality is wrong while not being homophobic as such. I've absolutely no idea if Souter falls into that categorty or not. If however he does, then I personally have no problem with that.

Trump, well that not such an easy one. To turn away a one billion pound investment I'd suggest you'd have to have a pretty damn good and solid reasons. I'm not saying for one minute we should welcome anyone who comes to Scotland 'dangling jobs like a donkey's carrot' (copyright Paul Weller 1982) and let them do what they want. But is disliking Trump as a man or as a Capitlalist a good enough reason to reject his investment? Well that's for each person to make up their own mind on. Then of course there's the envirnmental argument to consider, again that's down to each persons individual beliefs as to whether the environment comes before jobs and the enconomy.

To be honest I can see very strong arguments on both sides and I'm undecided. That's why I think calling the planning application in was probably the right thing to do, to allow the final decision to be made in a measured and considered way.

Amazing how we get those long threads which are often just a different interpretation of a term.

A phobia is normally defined as an irrational hatred, disapproval, or fear. of something.

It follows that anyone who disapproves of -for example-homosexual love, is either homophobic, or can demonstrate a logical reason for his opinion.

'Jesus loves me-this I know for the Bible tells me so'. Incontrovertibly logical?

Oh well perhaps old Devine still believes in the tooth fairy person too.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 09:28:13
QUOTE(tontric @ Mar 14 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]418990[/snapback]
Yes they have been signed to try and keep us up. If they don't manage it then it's a bit harsh to blame them when they haven't really had a chance to bring in their own players. Mr McInally didn't leave them with the best squad to work with.

The goalposts always get shifted to suit the argument!

When JM was here it was at least 90% his fault that we were 'underperforming'.

Now he's gone it's still his fault that we can't perform any better!!!

That is frankly daft. If DI/DC don't keep us in division 1, they will quite simply have failed the test.

I'm not for a minute suggesting that it's easy, nor that they are incompetent.

Merely stating fact.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 09:31:09
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 14 2008, 09:29 AM) [snapback]418992[/snapback]
Col in Soapy Soutaresque comment shocker!

Sometimes very difficult to divine Spurtle's logic.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 09:33:29
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 14 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]418994[/snapback]
I heard the Bishop being interviewed on Radio Scotland's Drive Time (or whatever it's called) and he was very frank in his views.
His main beef seemed to be homosexuals attending Holocaust Memorial services saying 'they should get their own day, this is a day of rememberance for Jews'. He would do well to read the poem 'First They Came...' by Pastor Martin Niemoller before speaking out. I suppose that could count as a form of Holocaust denial, after all we have a Nazi Pope.

The pope's a Nazi!

He's not a pufe too, perchance?
mortonjag 2008-03-14 09:52:38
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 14 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]418995[/snapback]
I've told you before, an administrator is more akin to a surgeon performing emergency surgery on a severely injured patient - a high proportion of them die and in Gretna's case they might still be breathing but they are already brain dead.

The liquidator is the undertaker!

Do try and pay attention!

I always pay attention!

I said they are 'a bit' like undertakers, and given the huge operative mortality in administrative proceedings, I believe that is the correct way to appear.


'What's the chance of him pulling through Doc'?


Doc-with big cheesy grin-'He's definitely got a chance'.

'A good chance Doc?'

Doc-bursts into uncontrollable laughter-'Well the last ten have died, so I guess that must boost his chance'.

'It's not really a laughing matter Doc'.


Doc-choking back tears of jollity-'If I didn't laugh, I'd cry'.


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mortonjag 2008-03-14 09:55:09
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 14 2008, 09:45 AM) [snapback]419001[/snapback]
Word for word. I'm sure you could get a transcript from the BBC. Kept refering to 'they' and 'them' with regards to homosexuals.

...while thinking 'I and us'.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 09:57:39
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 14 2008, 09:37 AM) [snapback]418998[/snapback]
There are a few comments on pie and bovril about Chris Innes which can be suimmed up as

1) Morton have made him the best offer, not far away from what he is presently earning but he is not keen to come. No reason given but I would speculate he wants a bigger club

2) According to Gretna mad forum, he is in talks with Dundee to join them until the end of the season.

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OK, he's a pro who wants the best from his career, and who can blame him.

Doesn't look like our current management are a big pull mind!
mortonjag 2008-03-14 09:58:59
QUOTE(Kekkoman @ Mar 14 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]419007[/snapback]
I dont think so. Think of the saves Robinson makes that Mcgurn simply cant. This would more than make up for the points he throws away because Mcgurn makes a lot of stupid mistakes as well.

Do you believe that either keeper is up to first division standard?
mortonjag 2008-03-14 10:06:41
QUOTE(Kekkoman @ Mar 14 2008, 10:03 AM) [snapback]419011[/snapback]
As i said earlier in the thread neither should be playing for morton. i.e. not good enough for the 1st division.

But that is not the quesiton. I think that Robinson is better. Not by much though, but id pick him over Mcgurn.

If we had the option to keep him i would also do that as i feel with some guidance from an experienced head, like nelson, Robinson wil improve far beyond Mcgurn.

I'm not convinced by Robinson-he produces some fine reflex saves (as did Craig Coyle), but there's much more to playing in a team than doing beat the goalie at the Church Fair.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 10:38:26
QUOTE(Kekkoman @ Mar 14 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]419016[/snapback]
Thats why i think if we signed someone like Nelson he would benefit greatly. It would help other aspects of his game. Its plain to see hes got far better reflexes than mcgurn.

That's the point though-the world champion at keepy uppy has fantastic reflexes but doesn't play for Barca!
mortonjag 2008-03-14 10:54:39
QUOTE(Kekkoman @ Mar 14 2008, 10:46 AM) [snapback]419021[/snapback]
I gather thats the point you are making....but i dont just think its about his reflexes, i think the main thing that lets him down is his silly mistakes (which our whole defence is guilty of, including mcgurn) and that the rest of the defence dont seem to be confident in him.

Apart from that i think he is a better shot stopper, he has better reflexes and better distribution than mcgurn imo.

He is still far far away from anyh finished article, but bk to the original question i would prefer him to Mcgurn, and if we fail to sign another keeper would like to see him stay.

Well I would prefer McGurn. He has gone through a shaky patch as all goalies do, but at his best he's a solid and dependable stopper who inspires far more confidence than Robinson.

As I said before a competent goalie can look mediocre behind a crap defence and vice versa.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 10:59:26
QUOTE(centralTON @ Mar 14 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]419023[/snapback]
Aye right, auld yin, if it was that easy, you'd all be makin' a fortune. wink.gif
There's a bit more to plumbing than that, however, I do agree with you about the flexi's, best thing since sliced bread.
Would love to help you out Sanity, but, like most tradesmen I'm fully booked for weeks.
Good luck tho'.

No problem, we'll just get wee Nickerless to sort you out-whatever happened to service? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-14 11:03:58
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 14 2008, 10:57 AM) [snapback]419029[/snapback]
I think that if you're suggesting Scotland and the North East in particular won't benefit from this investment, then sorry, I disagree. Of course it will benefit the economy. Most people in the North East wanted it and were outraged when their council rejected it.

The real questions that should be considered are....

Does the costs to the environment outweight the benefits to the economy? I remain undecided.

Is Trump the sort of man we should allow to invest in our country? Well, I can't say that I like the man or approve of his business methods. But should you allow personal beliefs cloud your judgement if the investment is for the greater good of the country? I would suggest you shouldn't. I certainly don't think Trump should get preferrential treatment, and I don't think there's any hard evidence to say he is, but similarly I don't think he should be disciminated again just because of who he is.

I think his application should be considered solely on its merits and demerits, not on personalities.

Au contraire, I think it should be chucked out without undue consideration because he's a keech.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 11:08:28 Prediction time again-I notice the enthusiasm seems to wane with every passing week. I'm normally an optimist-I was quite pleased with our first three matches under DI, but Tuesday night has set me thinking all over again. If he couldn't get a result against Clyde, I'm afraid we may be facing the stark reality that he's not as good as expected.

Anyway, one game at a time. I'm scared to predict at all,but the Monkey says it's a 1-1draw.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 11:13:12
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Mar 14 2008, 11:06 AM) [snapback]419037[/snapback]
I was wondering whether it was better to burn brightly for a short while, and all the glory that goes with it (successive promotions, unbelievable goal scoring feats, SFA Cup Final, UEFA Cup!!) and quickly wither and die; or best to toddle on in the First Division for ever with nothing ever really happening.
We may well enjoy a few seasons of glory, but once again like Gretna it’s a story of how one person controlling the finances and bank rolling the club can leave you in the sh*t when things go wrong. We really do need a back up plan for when something happens to DDFR.

Would you rather have a bloody good ten years and die or go on forever no matter what?

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I would simply like us to achieve the achievable and puzzle at why it seems so bloody hard when we have clubs like Falkirk, Killie, Motherwell etc. sailing along in the SPL.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 11:21:28
QUOTE(Capuan @ Mar 14 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]419044[/snapback]
Last time Partick visited we we're in a pessamistic mood - 4 goals in the first 50 mins soon quelled that!
Think we'll still win but it wont be so clear cut,

Morton 2-1 Partick

McGurn to be back in goal

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True, but for some reason Partick just didn't turn up last time-they were utterly clueless and McColl was raging. Won't be like that tomorrow.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 11:41:02
QUOTE(Capuan @ Mar 14 2008, 11:24 AM) [snapback]419049[/snapback]
Thats an interesting, if not slightly morbid point.

Surely it doesn't make sense for morton to be so dependant on one individual? How many 'soft loans' does the club owe Mr. Rae's parent company Golden Casket? And while he has stated previously that these loans are not deemed to need repayed in the short term, what happens when he is no longer in a position to give us those assurances?

Apparently the actual money owed to GC is about £350,000 now that the new share issue's been sorted out, and bear in mind that when Shoogly shakes off the mortal coil, his son will presumably be a major beneficiary.

We also have Mr Donald hovering in the wings-his intentions are far from clear at the moment, but he is vastly wealthier than Golden Casket, and if he's only on the Board for fun the Monkey just laid a golden egg.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 11:57:07 I don't understand it. If Gretna are unable to profit from playing this tie, why should the inevitable be postponed and the agony prolonged?

I guess it's all about too many people watching their backs and playing things by the book.

Now if only Mileson had done that in the first place!
mortonjag 2008-03-14 12:26:49
QUOTE(suda @ Mar 14 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]419065[/snapback]
are you sure it's not Shoogly's fault!?

NO!
mortonjag 2008-03-14 12:30:45
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 14 2008, 12:19 PM) [snapback]419067[/snapback]
I agree. Personal beliefs are what fuel all of your decision making. Otherwise you're not acting on your own behalf.

I'm sure Mr Rae would agree.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 13:46:45
QUOTE(Reggio_Emilia_Ton_Army @ Mar 14 2008, 01:34 PM) [snapback]419110[/snapback]
three bottles of lambrusco are the best in life.
what's brasso?

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sorry amigo-brasso is polish for metals like brass, and it used to be drunk in desperation by alcoholics who needed a 'buzz'.

The trouble with lambrusco is that it's too strong to drink like water and too weak to treat like a genuine alcoholic beverage!
mortonjag 2008-03-14 13:49:42
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 14 2008, 01:35 PM) [snapback]419111[/snapback]
So all the ones who are being paid by their parent clubs are gonna play! laugh.gif

It's their last chance on the catwalk-can't blame the poor c*nts.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 13:54:17
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 14 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]419087[/snapback]
Even if your personal beliefs denied the possibility of employment for others?

Of course it's very easy to be principled when you're not the victim of the consequences. wink.gif

I'm afraid that sometimes you have to put your own personal beliefs to one side if it is for the greater good.

What you're effectively saying is that Trump's proposal should be rejected for no reason other than who he is. I'm sorry, I can't agree with that.

Exactly and why don't we start with birching, and capital punishment?
mortonjag 2008-03-14 13:56:01
QUOTE(centralTON @ Mar 14 2008, 01:45 PM) [snapback]419117[/snapback]
Always with a smile. wink.gif

Of course!
mortonjag 2008-03-14 14:00:53
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 14 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]419127[/snapback]
Because I don't believe that is for the greater good.

Then I'll LEARN you------bend over----now this hurts me more than it hurts you-WALLOP....WALLOP...WALLOP...WALLOP...WALLOP...WALLOP, and next time I'll be SERIOUS-is that understood?

Now run off and be a good boy. Thinking's clearly not meant for you.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 14:04:31
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Mar 14 2008, 12:49 PM) [snapback]419089[/snapback]
Alderwood Road in Port Glasgow is mental - someone lifted my window wipers off my windscreen last night.

Mental!

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In Barrowfield your motor would have disappeared in five minutes.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 14:20:24
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 14 2008, 02:15 PM) [snapback]419137[/snapback]
I thought this was going to be a thread on art!!! How's about some Titian.

More Tumian I'd say Mr McArthur.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 14:24:55
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 14 2008, 02:12 PM) [snapback]419135[/snapback]
Forgive me for saying this MJ but you seem to have a real obsession with bottoms and spanking. Not that I'm judging you, each to their own.

Why do you beg forgiveness-yes I'm slightly obsessed with botties-particularly little pink ones, and if they're naughty little pink botties, they shall be skelped with an almighy skelping.

What other function do little pink botties serve-pray?
mortonjag 2008-03-14 14:28:48
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 14 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]419141[/snapback]
Yeah. ACAS have been involved and been trying to settle out of court and helping me out. I was actually claiming against two parties and one was settled a couple weeks back. This other lot seem determined not to pay out.

AHA-more to this than meets the eye!

Have ACAS advised you to 'take them to the cleaners'?
mortonjag 2008-03-14 14:41:30
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Mar 14 2008, 02:34 PM) [snapback]419156[/snapback]
The only driver in recent years who could win more because of his driving than his car was Michael Schumacher. It's stating the obvious to say it will be between Maclaren and Ferrari again, but the better more reliable car will win!

Not sure about Hamilton; in motorsport terms he's had every possible advantage being Maclaren's blue-eyed boy for a number of year's now, although he certainly did well in his first F1 season albeit in the best car. Even then Kimi still beat him and that might have been his best chance for a while if the reports regarding the improvements at Ferrari this year are true.

More 'one season wonders' in F1 than in most other sports?

Time will tell-Hamilton did achieve a huge amount given his relative inexperience. I believe he's got that wee bit extra and expect it to show.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 14:44:37
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Mar 14 2008, 02:20 PM) [snapback]419145[/snapback]
I'm not so sure they'll go to the wall now, this game going ahead tomorrow buys the administrator a further week. At least one of the potential investors, after looking at the books which there is time to do now, will take over IMO. Loss making or not, I just have a feeling somebody is going to come in and give this shower a second chance!

This time next season I wouldn't be surprised if they are playing in Division Two.

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This is the calm before the storm. Gretna are goosed-plain and simple.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 14:51:06
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 14 2008, 02:45 PM) [snapback]419166[/snapback]
Yes. The woman asked what I would be looking for, I had no idea what to go for, so she explained how much I would generally get if it went to trial and, don't wanna mention numbers here, but it was a LOT more than I was expecting. So she went back to their lawyer with what I'd accept as a settlement. She was really surprised they never went for it as well.

On paper then you seem to have a good case but bear in mind those figures are still based on you winning. Clearly they DON'T feel it's cut and dried, or they'd have settled. Is it just in limbo now, or has your lady made another offer?
mortonjag 2008-03-14 14:55:28
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 14 2008, 02:48 PM) [snapback]419170[/snapback]
Is a pre-contract not just like a gentleman's agreement ? I don't think it's legally binding. So there would be no compensation to pay if he doesn't fulfill the agreement.

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A gentlemans' agreement Spurtle.

All agreements between two parties are binding in Scottish law.

I'd have expected YOU to know that.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 14:59:35
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Mar 14 2008, 02:53 PM) [snapback]419175[/snapback]
Having read many of MJ's posts I was really worried when he offered an anagram for 'incongruent'............................................GRENUC TON.............what a relief!

No-no that was CONGRUENT


INCONGRUENT offers many more exciting possibilities!
mortonjag 2008-03-14 15:02:38
QUOTE(ian clinging @ Mar 14 2008, 02:56 PM) [snapback]419177[/snapback]
A pre-contract is precisely that! It isn't legally binding. Kenny Deuchar signed a pre-contract with us when he was at East Fife but Gretna came and signed him.

A contract is a contract. Pre contract is merely a term used to denote a less binding agreement-it does NOT imply that either party can just 'walk away'.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 15:07:33
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 14 2008, 03:00 PM) [snapback]419182[/snapback]
Nah. Going to court. Although all correspondance has to go to all parties so when their representatives send a letter to ACAS I also get sent it. So have just found out that their lawyer is no longer representing them.

Curiouser and curiouser.

You shouldn't be left with doubt-I'm puzzled by the expression 'their lawyer is no longer representing them'-what exactly does that mean. I'm beginning to wonder if you're fighting a pokey wee one man outfit!!!
mortonjag 2008-03-14 20:02:43
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 14 2008, 03:08 PM) [snapback]419189[/snapback]
Well I can't exactly say who it's against... but yer right smile.gif

OK-your chances have increased quite a bit I'd imagine. You have to hang your hat on the fact that ACAS have been involved, and put forward a suggestion which they've rejected. They're hoping you'll bottle it. Don't be surprised if you get an offer before the Tribunal date.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 20:23:15
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 14 2008, 03:17 PM) [snapback]419195[/snapback]
I'd agree with that. However, until he answers a lot of rather searching questions, whether or not he actually is a nice guy is up for debate. I am keeping an open mind on that until the full facts are revealed.

I'd agree with the last four words, as it will ensure we can sue him personally if need be.



It struck me from day one that Pony Tail was a contradiction. There are plenty of 'one off' millionaire benefactors doing the global rounds, but it was the HUGE personal agenda with a non viable proposition which set the alarm bells ringing for me. Mileson and Gretna FC became inseparable from cradle to grave. Now he's jumped ship, and the inevitable has happened.

It was totally CRAZY from the start, and the piece of s*** I've just cut and pasted typifies the bandwagon jumping of 'Living the Dream'. Irresponsible journalism? Maybe just 'media hype'!

The other distasteful aspect of Mileson's psyche is his palpable Del boy manipulative skill. His trotting out of stories of childhood poverty, injury, and chronic illness against which he valiantly battled are at total variance with his flouting of his third world diet plus 100 fags a day!

OK I've not met the man-that should probably put me at a disadvantage, but events seem to suggest the opposite.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 20:36:31
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 14 2008, 04:54 PM) [snapback]419225[/snapback]
Hamilton didn't impress me that much last season.
For all Alonso had the advantage of experience he too was starting at a new team - alonso's driving style is peculiar and the McLaren didn't understeer to suit his preferences.
The McLaren was both very competitive and reliable - hamilton should have won the championship from his strong position with two races left.
Raikkonene was also entering a new team, and once the Ferrari was developed to suit him, he was clearly the fastest driver and deservedly won the championship.
Hamilton and Kovaleinen don't have the experience to develop the car in testing - Schumacher became the dominant force because he delivered superb feedback during testing.

Admit it-you're Sir Jackie Stewart! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-14 20:39:01
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 14 2008, 07:02 PM) [snapback]419257[/snapback]
Not me. Maybe it was Bishop Devine. laugh.gif

Do all pufe haters wear fancy dress?
mortonjag 2008-03-14 20:40:47
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 14 2008, 07:55 PM) [snapback]419281[/snapback]
Getting scary now. blink.gif

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Have you been a naughty boy again?
mortonjag 2008-03-14 20:41:59
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 14 2008, 03:18 PM) [snapback]419198[/snapback]
indeed it is....

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mortonjag 2008-03-14 20:43:56
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 14 2008, 07:16 PM) [snapback]419263[/snapback]
Well i dont drink anymore. Last time i had a pint was at the Scotland vs. Italy game; the last alcohol i had was a glass of champagne at New Year. I dont eat fast foods etc. and have a good healthy breakfast, lunch, dinner and supper every day. Lots of vegetables, plenty of herbs and spices, grill or boil foods where possible, and if frying food use olive oil instead of cooking fat.

Its not exactly a health kick, just being sensible for a change. smile.gif

Have you stopped beating your partner? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-14 20:47:07
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 14 2008, 08:26 PM) [snapback]419299[/snapback]
No, but well done for getting the right answer biggrin.gif
In yer dreams, pal tongue.gif

You're not a sequins man then!
mortonjag 2008-03-14 20:48:21
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 14 2008, 05:55 PM) [snapback]419232[/snapback]
It's not your fault Jackie, she wasn't cute, blonde-haired, blue eyed, or from a middle-class family, so she only had limited media interest.

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mortonjag 2008-03-14 20:49:41
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 14 2008, 08:01 PM) [snapback]419282[/snapback]
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I'm not a class warrior, but I do think everyone deserves the same treatment irrespective of their background. tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-14 20:53:06
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 14 2008, 03:16 PM) [snapback]419194[/snapback]
Because their next game is at home to Celtic and they are hoping for a big gate.

To what end-it's only prolonging the agony and racking up the administration fees! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-14 20:54:29
QUOTE(Capuan @ Mar 14 2008, 04:26 PM) [snapback]419215[/snapback]
You should have included a "Mr Mileson will make a remarkable recovery which will baffle all known medical advice and will re-invest his recently won euro-millions jackpot win into the club" option.

Would have got my vote.
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Is he ill?
mortonjag 2008-03-14 20:58:27
QUOTE(Scapaflow @ Mar 14 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]419213[/snapback]
Going to hospitality with a few of us from work(some non Morton fans attending) so hopefully we can put on a show and a comfortable 3-1 would be nice. rolleyes.gif

Ask Shoogly if he still helps to pick the team!
mortonjag 2008-03-14 21:01:27
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Mar 14 2008, 08:18 PM) [snapback]419292[/snapback]
Christ Fleming hasn't played a game for us yet and people are slagging him. sad.gif

Is Christ Fleming our latest signing?
mortonjag 2008-03-14 21:03:45
QUOTE(SramTon @ Mar 14 2008, 08:35 PM) [snapback]419302[/snapback]
All agreements are binding??

So if I agree with my mate to go to the pub tomorrow night then change my mind, he can take me to court and get a judgment to make me go?

Mo Johnston agreed to sign for Celtic then signed instead for Rangers.
If "contract is a contract", then what's an "agreement"?

How can one type of "binding agreement" be less binding than another type of "binding agreement". If it's not binding then, erm, it's not a binding agreement.

In theory that is correct. The court would need to hear satisfactory evidence that the agreement had been made.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 21:07:06
QUOTE(Putonmatea @ Mar 14 2008, 08:59 PM) [snapback]419321[/snapback]
Mortonjag - Are you still blabbering on about pre-contracts being contracts? I thought we had sorted that one out and you were getting all tied up in sort ofs, maybes and wells... A PRE-CONTRACT is a PRE-CONTRACT agreement. Before Contract!!!!! It summarises the terms to be included in a CONTRACT when the CONTRACT is signed.

And in so doing rubber stamps the fact that an arrangement, agreement, understanding, contract, pact, or whatever else you care to call it exists IN LAW.

Run off now.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 21:11:16
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Mar 14 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]419324[/snapback]
Caravaggio - Hopefully enough flesh for Sean

Not a Botticelli?
mortonjag 2008-03-14 21:12:33
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 14 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]419325[/snapback]
No Tom, we have in fact established that you're a delusional auld fanny. rolleyes.gif

Is that worse than a demented old fud?
mortonjag 2008-03-14 21:14:39
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 14 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]419315[/snapback]
Don't tell soapy Soutar.

Sapphism- no doubt even worse that the sin of Sodom. unsure.gif

I thought Spurtle disliked pufes!
mortonjag 2008-03-14 21:40:30 Mortonjag has just purchased a 'large' bag of chips from the traditional 'Tally' chip shop down the road.

It's a good wee shop, and is always busy . The problem is 'Mr Chips' looked me straight in the eye and asked for £1.90.

What with folk grumbling about the price of bus fares, bad service from GPs etc., is that a lot to pay for a couple of deep fried tatties?
mortonjag 2008-03-14 21:42:52
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 14 2008, 09:40 PM) [snapback]419342[/snapback]
Thanks for the 'near' offer - I think!

I would appreciate it if you could answer me one question on the old plumbing side - how do I know what shower I can buy for my house?

The hot water comes from an immerser in the bathroom (large bathroom), cold water mains into the bathroom.

Shower would probably be above the height of the immerser!

No brainer-thermostatic onto the incoming cold mains-easiest and most effective!
mortonjag 2008-03-14 21:45:40
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 14 2008, 09:17 PM) [snapback]419331[/snapback]
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I'd say that a delusional auld fanny is worse than a demented old fud, but that's just my opinion. tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-14 21:52:36
QUOTE(tontric @ Mar 14 2008, 09:17 PM) [snapback]419330[/snapback]
I can see you what you are saying... You would hope the new management team would get more out of the players than the previous manager, however if your previous manager left you with a squad lacking key elements then there is very little the new management team can do. If the players ain't good enough then a few months of coaching/direction ain't going to change much.

A few of our posters have consistently asserted that the current squad isn't up to this division.

The majority seemed to agree that we only needed three or four EXPERIENCED players to allow us to compete. Shoogly thought 'his boys' could do the trick.

I still believe the truth lies somewhere in the middle. We now have Jenkins, McGuffie, and Smith when fit. I DO believe we have MORE than enough to avoid the drop. If we don't I will certainly be blaming the management.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 21:54:44
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 14 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]419333[/snapback]
Aye cos you don't have the knackers to do it yourself wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-14 21:59:06
QUOTE(SramTon @ Mar 14 2008, 09:33 PM) [snapback]419336[/snapback]
You're completely wrong MJ. sad.gif

The first thing the Court (Scottish or English) assess with regard to whether a "contract" exists is whether there was intention to enter into a contractual relationship. If there's no intent, there's no contract.

There's no such thing as a legal "agreement". It's the Law of Contract.

I am simply stating that an agreement between two parties is binding under Scottish law.

So far as I can see, 'agreement' per se indicates intention.

Indeed, if there's no 'intention', there's no agreement.

A pre-contract is an agreement. Neither party can just 'walk away'.

It is as simple as that.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 22:00:43
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 14 2008, 09:43 PM) [snapback]419344[/snapback]
Yes a pre contract represents some sort of agreement but the question is how binding is it? It merely sets out a promise from a player that he will join another club in exchange for a set of terms. Generally in contract law the wounded party has to show loss. If Chris Miller does not go to St Johnstone for say, £40k per annum and instead they sign say Gavin Skelton for similar money, for St Johnstone to claim a loss against Chris they would have to prove what they had lost out. Millar v Skelton? How can they do that? What measure is there to

1) Prove Millar a better player that Skelton?
2) Prove that he would have played so well for St J to cause them loss if he ain't there?

Thats virtually impossible. So yes, you have point about any kind of agreement in Scotland being theoretically enforceable but its more than just the existence of such an agreement, its proving that not fulfilling its terms caused loss and until he is a contracted St Johnstone player, thats almost impossible.

Its rather like the situation where an employee agrees to go to a new employer (possibly in writing) but then is persuaded to stay by his existing company. Theres nothing the potential new employer can do about it and it happens all the time!

Pay Chris more money I say!

As I've said, neither party can just walk away. There's MUCH more scope for negotiation, however, than with a full contract.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 22:04:02
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 14 2008, 10:00 PM) [snapback]419354[/snapback]
Is that the same as an electric shower? i.e. not a mixer or power shower?

It's not a 'mixer' as there's nothing to mix. If your cold water pressure's adequate a simple thermostatic
electric shower will probably suffice. I believe 'power' showers have a built in pump to increase the water pressure, and they will certainly give you a much more satisfactory flow.

Please check with a plumber though! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-14 22:08:16
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 14 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]419358[/snapback]
They will want to ensure Gretna keep going until next week as it will ensure both OF clubs have played them nd won't then interfere with the title race. After the split it won't make any difference to the outcome .

That makes a HUGE amount of sense-I'd imagine the SPL would have been willing to bribe ensure that happened.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 22:10:35
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 14 2008, 09:44 PM) [snapback]419345[/snapback]
You want to be watching your diet auld yin, you shouldn't be taking any chances at your age.

If you're feeling a bit peckish have an apple or a banana instead.

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Precisely the reason I didn't know the price. I rarely eat chips-my partner just had a sudden urge, and I know not to ignore her urges.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 22:13:15
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 14 2008, 09:54 PM) [snapback]419349[/snapback]
either you're a freak or you're not funny and i know u aint funny.

anyway, devine's comments were a disgrace and unfortunately very few within his organisation will take him to task.

cliche alert - but dress wearing virgins in their 60's who harp on about the evils of being gay, to my mind, are pretty insecure about certain aspects of their sexuality. i bet he really wants to dance about in an arseless leather smock to the wizard of oz.

Of course I'm a freak my child, and any more of your cheek and you'll be getting a good spanking on both.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 22:14:11
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 14 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]419357[/snapback]
You seem to know a great deal about this. ohmy.gif

Each to their own.

Indeed-it sounds quite freakish TBH!
mortonjag 2008-03-14 22:16:54
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 14 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]419366[/snapback]
Eh.... how is pointing out the class bias of the media going to end up with me getting egg on my face? Irrespective of her background or the circumstances behind this wee lassie's abduction she deserved at least as much media attention as other abducted kids, and she didn't get it.

You really can be a total fanny at times Tom. rolleyes.gif

Is that what you'd have called her if she was the daughter of a multi millionaire?

Just wondering?
mortonjag 2008-03-14 22:18:53
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 14 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]419365[/snapback]
Aye cheers ya plamf!! I wiz trying

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Well DON'T try to get one out at 4 a.m. on Hogmanay unless you've been to the auto teller twice!
mortonjag 2008-03-14 22:20:43
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 14 2008, 09:39 PM) [snapback]419339[/snapback]
slightly off topic but my auntie margaret was a wren during ww2 and met that w*nker churchill at bagatelle in the west end. at one point during that conflict greenock was the busiest port in the world. where's our heritage centre?

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mortonjag 2008-03-14 22:22:04
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 14 2008, 10:19 PM) [snapback]419371[/snapback]
Aye, how? unsure.gif

I told you-can ye no' read?
mortonjag 2008-03-14 22:25:31
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 14 2008, 10:22 PM) [snapback]419375[/snapback]
whit?

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Just confused by your desire for 'heritage' and the use of a derogatory term for part of it.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 22:40:10
QUOTE(SramTon @ Mar 14 2008, 10:11 PM) [snapback]419363[/snapback]
MJ, whilst I appreciate your innate desire to hold the one true opinion on every subject under the sun, the simple fact here is that you are wrong.

An "agreement" is not a legally-binding contract unless certain conditions are met. Ergo, not all agreements are legally binding.

I gave the example of Mo Johnston earlier. You may recall that he publically agreed to join Celtic. I'm not suggesting that Millar is in the same boat - merely illustrating an agreement which had no legal effect.

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An 'agreement' is by definition a 'contract', and there's no need to be rude either.

The fact is that YOU are mistaken. There is no such thing as 'an agreement which has no legal effect'.

I suggest you do a wee bit of research before you 'knee jerk' back. I don't hold an opinion on this my child-I'm stating fact.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 22:52:23
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 14 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]419378[/snapback]
I can have the hot water at the shower as well as the cold - hence I could have a power shower - however not sure what the pressures need to be and how one actually measures the pressure!!!!!!!

Now you're confusing me. Are you replacing an existing and satisfactory shower? If so you just disconnect and re-connect the pipes to a more modern unit of the same type.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 22:55:07
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 14 2008, 10:33 PM) [snapback]419384[/snapback]
not clever, not funny. for more info see every thread you have ruined in the past year.

On this occasion smartarse you have failed to be clever or funny-which is nothing new.

I wish I could say I'm sorry that I ruin threads for you, but one sin I avoid is lying.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 22:58:13
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 14 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]419380[/snapback]
have you ever had a funny post?
not been in much mate. going to see w2 in connellys' 2moro

no-one thinks you're funny either. any more of your pish and my old man will crack you a dull yin....and he's 73

Don't be a silly boy-my monkey could probably knock your old man over with a feather.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 22:59:55
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 14 2008, 10:33 PM) [snapback]419385[/snapback]
That's out of order, they're not twats.

For future reference, Tom is a delusional auld fanny and MJ is a demented auld fud. tongue.gif

I hope this helps.

...and forza is the epitomy of incisive wit! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-14 23:11:31
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 14 2008, 11:05 PM) [snapback]419413[/snapback]
House doesn't have a shower - replacing the art deco 4 piece bathroom suite with a 3 piece modern bathroom suite along with a walk in shower.

First shower in 108 years! for the house that is!

In that case it's back to my original suggestion-by far the simplest way is just to 'tee' off the cold water mains.

You did describe the incoming cold water as 'mains', though in old properties bathrooms are frequently supplied from a header tank in the attic.

That's where a power shower can be used if the pressure's not adequate.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 23:16:17
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 14 2008, 11:08 PM) [snapback]419418[/snapback]
if it's nothing new why say "on this occasion"? halfwit.

you ruin threads for most on here. and that's the honest truth sad.gif

You are not quite as clever as you'd like to believe, nor for that matter have you any justification in speaking for the majority.

'It is nothing new'-it has occurred in the past, and AGAIN on this occasion.

I'm here to help! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-14 23:19:30
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 14 2008, 11:02 PM) [snapback]419411[/snapback]
funnier and smarter than you mate and i don't need 13,000 posts to prove it

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...and ever so modest with it.

Truth is son you simply ain't. Now off you pop.
mortonjag 2008-03-15 09:36:35
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 14 2008, 11:42 PM) [snapback]419437[/snapback]
once again you backtrack to cover up your crap and once again you spam a reasonable thread with pish.

stupid p***k

That's scintillating repartee from Inverclyde's answer to---well just about everything I guess. You have been awarded this week's coveted 'pink botty spank' in acknowledgement of your contribution to the world of arseholes. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-15 09:40:09
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 15 2008, 01:12 AM) [snapback]419489[/snapback]
i take it all back. another masterpiece, bravo, mr banks. what an ending!

Even beats the neighbours shagging Mr Banks-BTW do yours?
mortonjag 2008-03-15 09:42:12
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 15 2008, 12:36 AM) [snapback]419460[/snapback]
Depends on the quality i'd say.
For £1.90 they'd either have to be city centre prices or not as greasy as the cheaper shops.

Good quality, and plenty of them.
mortonjag 2008-03-15 09:43:22
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 15 2008, 12:56 AM) [snapback]419479[/snapback]
someone puts up with you? ohmy.gif

although to be fair i think youre on here more than you're with her so really its us that have to put up with you tongue.gif

Oh indeed young man, and she's not old enough to be yer Mammy!
mortonjag 2008-03-15 09:44:54
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Mar 15 2008, 01:18 AM) [snapback]419492[/snapback]
Hmmm more whinging rolleyes.gif

Nope Gibby-I wasn't whinging-merely asking, which is different. I can still remember when you could get a wee poke of chips for 3d!
mortonjag 2008-03-15 09:48:06
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 15 2008, 08:25 AM) [snapback]419572[/snapback]
Where were they from MJ? Dellos in Burnside is arguably the best chipper on the sooside but ye'll get no change out of a tenner for two suppers. Just about everything's made fresh and the chips are never greasy.

Guido's in Coustonholm Road--traditional chippy with the wee sit in part for fish teas etc.

BTW I WASN'T moaning about the price-I haven't bought chips for donkeys' years, and was genuinely surprised.

£2 still seems a lot for chopping two spuds and flinging them in oil for 5 minutes!
mortonjag 2008-03-15 09:51:47
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 14 2008, 11:39 PM) [snapback]419435[/snapback]
it's hardly being conceited to say i'm funnier than you c***o. now away up the stairs and see if yer missus will let you jag her. you have a long day of posting ahead

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Jealousy will get you nowhere, and I didn't even have to climb stairs.

BTW you're not funny, except in a funny way-I was going to use the word 'queer' but I have to cater for all minority sensitivities-n'est ce pas Hercules.
mortonjag 2008-03-15 09:53:21
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 15 2008, 01:31 AM) [snapback]419503[/snapback]
blah blah blah. i don't answer the home phone, i'm trying to cut down the amount of time i spend on public transport, hopefully one day i'll be of independent means and not have to deal with people face to face. and i have to stop reading this stupid board.

talk about depressing. i am coming to terms with the fact that i really hate people. i really hate all of you. you make me feel sick.

and here's a pre-emptive f*** you for the most loathsome t*** i've ever come across online - f*** you, mentaljag.

you are more of a w*nker than i could ever tell you. f***ing tolstoy would have had to have spent 2 years of his life telling you why, so i won't bother.

what a f***ing dick.

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Good gracious!
mortonjag 2008-03-15 09:54:37
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 15 2008, 08:29 AM) [snapback]419573[/snapback]

And I'm sure it wasn't Trumpet but well spotted!
mortonjag 2008-03-15 09:58:10
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 15 2008, 08:29 AM) [snapback]419574[/snapback]
There's a long tradition of dispising the poor in the UK from the Cambridge Footlights to Little Britain. Any time the poor or 'working class' as they were called in my day attempt to 'own' a culture; football, music, fashion, cars, etc they have absolute derision poured on them from the metropolitan elites.

...who are now called the nouveau riche working class? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-15 09:59:46
QUOTE(Danger_Mouse @ Mar 15 2008, 08:45 AM) [snapback]419577[/snapback]
Hamilton got pole for tomorrows aussie GP. Kobica was 2nd fastest for BMW.

I hope Hamilton does well this season.

Looking forward to the night Grand Prix also the Bahrain Grand Prix. Went 2 years ago and loved every min of it and managed to stay sober for most of it although the apartments I was staying in sold stella at 80p a pint!

Talent will out!
mortonjag 2008-03-15 10:06:37 I expect LEAFY to score today.
mortonjag 2008-03-15 10:10:03
QUOTE(Lifelongfan @ Mar 15 2008, 02:22 AM) [snapback]419544[/snapback]
What an absoloutely ridiculous thing to say after 3 or 4 games (Your last sentence) Why do you talk such pi-h? Give the guys a chance with their own players next season - even if that is in the second division - it's not their fault that we may go down -Is it?

If they were signed TO KEEP US UP-it will most certainly be their fault-it's quite as simple as that.

That wouldn't necessarily make them bad managers, but would certainly indicate that they had overestimated their own ability.

Oh, and while I'm on, I NEVER 'talk pi-h'!
mortonjag 2008-03-15 10:20:43
QUOTE(SramTon @ Mar 15 2008, 12:20 AM) [snapback]419451[/snapback]
Oh, FFS.

I think I've worked out the problem, its the bit where you suggest I do a "wee bit of research".

I seem to have overdone it: Law at Uni, Post-grad/professional exams in law, working in the legal profession for seven years (which, incidentally, an emphasis on the Law of Contract), instructed and met a few top QC's iro contract law issues, read a few of their reports on contract law, etc etc.

But I'll defer to your superior knowledge of the apparent Law of Agreements, which must've been an integral part of your medical training.

Now will you stop arguing with me on this point and accept (just privately to yourself) that maybe, just maybe, even if only for the first time in your 16,000+ postings, you might be incorrect. smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif
(Edit: to change your no of posts - I had underestimated by 5,000!)

Oh dear, I suppose when I was a young medic I thought I knew it all as well. Your head is right up your arse on this for the simple reason that you are confusing the principle with a waffle of superfluous supposition.

The fact is that the VERY EXISTENCE of an agreement is 'a contract', and the fact, as I've stated repeatedly, is that neither party can just 'walk away' from a 'pre-contract agreement'.

That has always been my understanding, and has been confirmed by one of my sons who has a first class Honours Law degree from a proper University.

Now why don't you remove your head from your arse, and just admit that Mortonjag, as always, is correct? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-15 10:23:40
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 15 2008, 12:32 AM) [snapback]419455[/snapback]
I always found that about Doctor clients. Six years to qualify as a Chartered Accountant was always rendered as nothing by the Doctors superior knowledge of accountancy brought about by a week's training in the commercial aspects of running a medical practice!!

Still they were useful when I had an ingrown toenail rolleyes.gif!

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mortonjag 2008-03-15 10:24:45
QUOTE(ton1901 @ Mar 15 2008, 01:44 AM) [snapback]419516[/snapback]
have u even done law? a contract is only binding wen it has been signed on paper, ye there is a gentlemans agreement but prove it happened! he can get out it

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mortonjag 2008-03-15 10:27:52
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 15 2008, 07:34 AM) [snapback]419564[/snapback]
Similarly with surveyors where because they've had the gutters cleaned and the roof repaitred on their surgery, they are experts in construction.

MJ seems to be an expert on just about everything fronm medicine to law to accountancy to running a business to running a football team. I wish I was so talented and gifted.

MJ has indeed many talents Ratarse-aren't you proud to have such a well educated and informed fellow poster?

Interestingly, it seems extremely unusual for Mortonjag to be proven wrong, though I've no doubt that you and your satellites will manage to dredge a few gaffes from my small accumulation of postings! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-15 11:19:45
QUOTE(Putonmatea @ Mar 15 2008, 07:40 AM) [snapback]419566[/snapback]
MJ - Either party can effectively walk away. As I said before a pre-contract is a summary of the agreements to be entered into THE CONTRACT when it is presented for execution. There may be clauses inserted into THE CONTRACT which do not form part of the pre-contract agreement and at that stage the legal team representing either party will either agree or disagree with these clauses with further negotions being required to reach final agreement.
Pre-contract agreements are intended to iron out the main points early on after the initial discussions to allow the contract to be signed much faster at a later date. (Because the main details to be included in the Contract have already been agreed). The Pre-Contract would then be incorporated into the Contract as a numbered document. (IE part of the Contract Agreement).

Although not a lawer I have significant dealings with Contracts and Pre-Contracts and from experience Pre-Contracts are pretty much a waste of paper without the Contract being in place. I`ve seen numerous people walk away from Pre-Contracts but not from a Contract.

Pre-Contracts are (Like the Clyde on a particularly overcast and rainy day) a sea of gray!

Precisely and that is where you and your fellow 'lawyers' either can't see the wood for trees, or are just being deliberately obtuse.

It is the VERY EXISTENCE of the interaction which makes it potentially sub judice. In the Millar situation, for example, both parties could mutually agree to 'forget it'. Alternatively they could thrash out an amicable settlement without the need for third party intervention. Neither party could just 'WALK AWAY'-that is ALL I've ever stated or implied, and THAT IS THE FACT OF THE MATTER.



mortonjag 2008-03-15 11:29:07
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 15 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]419607[/snapback]
the only posts of yours that are never wrong are your poems. tongue.gif

its a shame that you're the one thats good at poems and not someone else, because s***ebag rhymes perfectly with Mortonjag. sad.gif

Nonsense one is bi-syllabic, and the other tri-syllabic.

A petulant poster called port-ton
Whose dick had a horrible wart on
Went down to the Doc
For some work on his c*ck
And now he's tattooed it with 'Morton'.
mortonjag 2008-03-15 11:43:07
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 15 2008, 10:38 AM) [snapback]419608[/snapback]
Do you mean instead of being ruled by one imperialist nation, we could have been ruled by another ? rolleyes.gif

Spurtle, if I'm not very much mistaken, Bawheid and Hitler have many distinct similarities.

It's typical of your generation to lower the huge significance of beating the Reich to the level of daft wee boys parading around Holyrood in tartan skirts and cloud cuckoo land.
mortonjag 2008-03-15 11:46:20
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 15 2008, 10:40 AM) [snapback]419609[/snapback]
Don't get too exited MJ or you could give yourself a Subdural hematoma laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-15 11:48:09
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 15 2008, 11:10 AM) [snapback]419616[/snapback]
Out with fuel pressure problems?

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mortonjag 2008-03-15 11:49:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 15 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]419595[/snapback]
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They didn't-that was ultimately the problem! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-15 11:50:29
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 15 2008, 10:21 AM) [snapback]419600[/snapback]
Grandmother? tongue.gif

Mammy-that was the term I used!
mortonjag 2008-03-15 11:54:13
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 15 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]419625[/snapback]
Glad that she's turned up alive.

It's an interesting idea about the lack of coverage this has had. I would tend to agree that a lot of it was class based - the mother didn't make good tv in the way that Mrs McCann did.

But I was talking to a journalist mate, who felt that his profession had been burnt quite badly by the McCann shenanigans. He also said that the early signs in this case suggested that the family may have been involved, and journalists didn't want to take the risk of being turned over again. Out of interest, is the guy who's been arrested the same bloke who was taken in for questioning when Shannon first went missing?

Stop it-you're spoiling their fun! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-15 12:10:17
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 15 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]419638[/snapback]
Spot on LL. I agree 100%, great post.

'You get the media you deserve' is an old cliché but it's probably true nevertheless. It's easy to blame the media, but at the end of the day they would argue that they simply publish and broadcast what the general public want to read and watch.

So do the media dictate the level of interest or do they simply reflect it? I don't know, probably a bit of both, but as well as criticising the media we should also take a look at ourselves as a society and ask as to why these underclasses exist in the first place, and why we allow them to be discriminated against in this way.

Of course some people pretend that this doesn't happen and everything is just fine and dandy. rolleyes.gif

The McCann case was orchestrated by the influential parents who had a vested interest-exactly what is still unclear.

I'm not sure that undue publicity ever helps in those situations.That being the case, it can be argued that the press discriminate against higher profile families.


mortonjag 2008-03-15 12:12:40
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 15 2008, 12:06 PM) [snapback]419643[/snapback]
About £1.90 seems a fair price. An ordinary portion would cost around £1.20-£1.30, a Roll'n'Chips would be around £1.00.

Never grudge paying good money for good food, after all it is the fuel for the body.

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TY, I'd hate to feel I'd been ripped off, especially as they do seem to provide a good service and are popular locally.
mortonjag 2008-03-15 12:17:08
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 15 2008, 12:09 PM) [snapback]419645[/snapback]
The 2nd division would work the same way. Division Three winners would still go up.... 9th place would be spared the play offs, so 10th place would play off against 2nd/3rd/4th. It would leave 9 teams in Division Three, which opens up invitations to any team wanting in.

I think that's how it work anyway unsure.gif

In our case it could be argued it's simply a case of 'what goes round comes round' but in general I agree that it seems very unfair.

Gretna's penchant for well and truly f*cking Scottish football continues.
mortonjag 2008-03-15 12:19:06
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 15 2008, 12:16 PM) [snapback]419648[/snapback]
In the greater scheme of things, £1.90 is mere bawbees to you and your super-duper quacks pension.

Running a chippy is a brilliant business, you've always got a queue of people giving you no less than a fiver for something that costs relatively little to make.

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If only!
mortonjag 2008-03-15 12:25:11
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 15 2008, 12:22 PM) [snapback]419651[/snapback]
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i see you had to include yourself on doing the work on my c*ck. mellow.gif

The wart has been added to my collection of oddities, severed heads and limbs, and the picture of Aunt Matilda with the brown moustache.
mortonjag 2008-03-15 12:28:06
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 15 2008, 12:24 PM) [snapback]419653[/snapback]
you said she wasnt old enough to be my mammy, meaning most likely her eggs had turned to dust by the time i was born sad.gif

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...just meaning what I said! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-15 12:51:06
QUOTE(SramTon @ Mar 15 2008, 12:24 PM) [snapback]419652[/snapback]
So you thought you knew it all when you were a young medic? What happened in your later life to bring about such a change in personality? rolleyes.gif

Some quotes from the first law book to hand:

"A contract is an agreement which the law will enforce [...] Thus a contract is a legally binging agreement [...] All contracts are agreements but not all agreements are contracts."

The last five words are the important ones.

Five words stating a simple fact/principle and a distinct lack of "superfluous supposition". smile.gif

Which of us is up our own arse? Fancy a poll? smile.gif

Firstly, would you like to reveal your legal qualifications. Not that I doubt your honesty, but my son would like to know.

No amount of dredging through tomes of legal theory will ever alter the fact that an agreement between two parties in Scotland is legally enforceable, and a pre contract agreement is by definition an agreement.

I have never said that the terms 'agreement' and 'contract' are mutually interchangeable-I've merely set out the principle which applies in general, and that principle is immutable.

Two parties cannot form an agreement, only for one to walk away with impunity. That contravenes natural justice AND Scottish law.
mortonjag 2008-03-15 12:52:04
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 15 2008, 12:38 PM) [snapback]419660[/snapback]
speaking of going off topic, where's Weegieton dissapeared to lately?

I've missed him too. I think he normally posted from work-maybe he's not got computer access at the moment.
mortonjag 2008-03-15 12:56:15
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Mar 15 2008, 12:54 PM) [snapback]419668[/snapback]
Of course they can, it happens every day of the week. No doubt Gretna thought they had an agreement with Brooks Mileson. Did them a lot of good though didn't it? tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-15 13:05:06
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 15 2008, 12:55 PM) [snapback]419669[/snapback]
The Celtic Game is probably one where they can reasonably expect more or less a capacity crowd - say at least 12000. Assuming that the average gate take (bearing in my they are all paying as season tickets are negligible) is around £12 allowing for concessions and VAT, thats £144,000 in the pot plus income from catering etc. say £150k overall. Thats more than enough to cover this weeks £30k. Next week's wages will be greatly reduced = probably not much more than £10-12k so there's every reason for the administrator to go for it! It also means that there is a pot of money to pay the administrator's fees out of trading leaving such assets as the club may have for creditors.

That's the point.

I can understand that from the financial aspect. Gretna are to be kept going till after the Celtic game and will then be liquidated.

The palpable artificiality of the whole situation raises other questions, not least about the fairness of points awarded to Aberdeen and Celtic-who must inevitably win.

If Gretna's staff depletion was caused by illness, they would legitimately be requesting postponements.

The whole thing's become a farce. I believe they should have been closed down this week.
mortonjag 2008-03-15 13:07:47
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 15 2008, 12:58 PM) [snapback]419672[/snapback]
We should all chip in to buy him a computer, i feel naked without him. Unforunately i normally wake up drugged and naked with him looking over me breathing heavily though.

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I'll pm him later and hopefully we'll discover he's still alive and kicking!
mortonjag 2008-03-15 13:09:23
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 15 2008, 12:36 PM) [snapback]419658[/snapback]
I would say you are mistaken blink.gif

All I said was we could be ruled from Berlin rather than London. Either way we are still ruled by another country.

Since when did London become a country?
mortonjag 2008-03-15 13:16:03
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 15 2008, 01:13 PM) [snapback]419680[/snapback]
Can't disagree with the sentiments at all. Artificiality has been my major issue with Gretna since day one and, like you, I got told I was just jealous!

The administrator though has no room for sentiment, only hard figures and it makes absolute financial sense for him to get to the Celtic game, even if its a total nonsense in football terms and will make an even bigger joke of the Scottish game.

What goes around comes around though and if we do (as seems increasingly likely) end up second bottom as a club who suffered more than most from Gretna's SPL based second division team, there is poetic justice that we end up being saved from the playoffs either by their demise or relegation straight to the second or third division.

Tinged with a modicum of irony, if you'll pardon the dreadful pun! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-15 13:23:09
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 15 2008, 12:57 PM) [snapback]419671[/snapback]
If only midton was the vet , he would have perscribed a long soak in salt water to ease our pain .

I was slightly confused by the reason given-surely if it's so easy to catch his tail in a door at Cappielow, Shoogly's nose would have been amputated long ago.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 10:51:57
QUOTE(SramTon @ Mar 15 2008, 08:43 PM) [snapback]419912[/snapback]
For there to be a legally enforceable contract there must be: consensus in idem, consent to contract, capacity to contract, and the contract must not be prohibited by law.

If I agree to go to the pub with my mates then later decide to go elsewhere I cannot be sued. We had an agreement, but clearly no consent that it should be legally binding.

If a 5 year old agrees to sell his X-box to his teacher for a packet of crisps, then again this agreement is not legally binding.

If I agree to rob a bank then change my mind, that agreement cannot be legally enforced.

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As I suspected you have no legal qualifications.Thank you for deliberately attempting to steal an advantage.

My son- you know- the one who supports Morton after Rangers (and is therefore clearly mad), but just happens to have a FIRST CLASS HONOURS DEGREE in Law from a proper university confirms that you are talking complete nonsense.

The term 'agreement' incorporates the understanding that both parties are CAPABLE of making the said arrangement. If, for example, one 'consenting' party was not of sound mind, that would not only be seen in Law, but also by the 'average' person, as a 'non' agreement.

To get back to my original point-agreements are enforceable under Scottish law.

I don't intend to sue you for attempting to deceiptfuly discredit me, and I, incidentally, also 'studied law' at university-also a proper one.

If I happen to see that celebrated QC-Mr Findlay around the Hampden area today, I shall certainly be instructing him-




TO F*CK OFF! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-16 10:55:51
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 16 2008, 12:11 AM) [snapback]420007[/snapback]
why bother arguing with him? he might only be a retired quack with an ego inversely proportional to the size of his tadger, but his close family members cover all known and some probably unknown fields of expertise, many more ethnic and religious backgrounds than you could find on earth and even *gasp* homosexuality. mentaljag comes from a deprived working class background (his old man was a ragged-trousered teacher, back in the days when they were paid in flour and butter and accepted the sneers of homeless navvies as their rightful due) and his son - not the gay pakistani lawyer, the celibate hindu guru dude i'm talking about now - is a multi-gazillionaire who employs bill gates as his gardener, which, incidentally, is where mj gets his encyclopaedic knowledge of botany and geology.

so just you be quiet, sonny. next he'll be accusing you of getting your degree from some shoddy institution like glasgow or edinburgh, and that'll be you crushed.

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mortonjag 2008-03-16 10:59:13
QUOTE(barry lavety is a fat junkie @ Mar 16 2008, 03:19 AM) [snapback]420047[/snapback]
Oh really?
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mortonjag 2008-03-16 11:11:41
QUOTE(SramTon @ Mar 16 2008, 01:21 AM) [snapback]420042[/snapback]
Close:
No mention yet of the irovy tower. I wait with baited breath. smile.gif

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Normally spelled 'ivory', and 'bated'.

I wouldn't pull up the average poster for a 'typo', but from such a distinguished law man as yourself, it's a tad poor, don't you think?

No mention yet of your actual legal qualifications either you impostor. rolleyes.gif

The whole thread has been 'hi-jacked' by clowns who are happy to have their jealous dig at the poor old 'jag', and have deliberately tried to confuse principle with semantics.

In (Scottish) law, either party can seek remedy for a broken 'agreement'-even if that was simply to deliver goods at a pre-arranged time. It's common sense, and it's just, and the Law is about justice.

Are you willing to concede that, or will you just dig yourself in deeper along with your pathetic associates on this thread? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-16 11:17:28
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 15 2008, 07:40 PM) [snapback]419859[/snapback]
Hot and cold water are now isolated to the bathroom and the art deco 4 piece bathroom suite has now been removed - bring on tomorrow!

Good luck!
mortonjag 2008-03-16 11:19:15
QUOTE(leyTON @ Mar 16 2008, 11:17 AM) [snapback]420134[/snapback]

As said-talent will out!
mortonjag 2008-03-16 11:22:06
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 15 2008, 12:36 PM) [snapback]419659[/snapback]
ach, i was only joking. anyway, i think all my friends are assholes too so try to take the above post in the spirit it was meant.

i am going through a bit of a misanthropic phase at the minute, right enough. i think i should get the f*** out of glasgow before it turns permanent.

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Well you can't really guarantee that until it passes off. You clearly do have some issues. Why not consult your doctor? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-16 11:24:57
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 15 2008, 07:58 PM) [snapback]419879[/snapback]
my mate was complaining the other day about how little he earned and everybody was earning much more than him and it wisnae fair etc. he cheered up a fair bit when i told him what i earned. in fact he was sounding fairly f***ing chipper by the end of the phone call.

How EXTREMELY interesting, if slightly confusing.

Surely a man of your IMMENSE intellect should be earning a decent income. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-16 11:29:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 16 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]420073[/snapback]
a figurehead that's all.

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ps hitler could have taken britain in 1941

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forza ton, are you able to read ??

or are you just not numerate ?

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Forza is actually quite good at letters and numbers.He just likes being a naughty boy. I'm sure Mr Churchill would have known exactly how to deal with him.

Newt-have you ever had a red hot cigar rammed up your arse?
mortonjag 2008-03-16 11:33:37
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Mar 16 2008, 11:26 AM) [snapback]420150[/snapback]
i wouldn't prefer anyone behind me on a battlefield, i would prefer them to be in front of me wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-16 11:36:09
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 15 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]419891[/snapback]
Watch what you post on this board from now till the end of the season as you never know who is reading it.
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OK Standman, Donga, LaS.. you have been warned

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I have been duly warned!
mortonjag 2008-03-16 11:39:50
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 16 2008, 11:14 AM) [snapback]420132[/snapback]
why don't you two take this to pm's instead of all ths public knob-jousting, ruining threads for everyone else, as per.

Why is informing my fellow posters of fact 'public knob-jousting, and ruining threads' Donga?

Many posters wanted to know the implications of the Chris Millar issue, and the implications are quite simple.

An agreement has been made, and neither party can just walk away.That is all I have ever stated, and that is CORRECT!
mortonjag 2008-03-16 11:49:02
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 15 2008, 06:49 PM) [snapback]419802[/snapback]
even by the tele's dire standards that is one real non-story

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Were they lying?
mortonjag 2008-03-16 12:03:24
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 15 2008, 10:18 PM) [snapback]419957[/snapback]
I have said before that the calamity brothers have had their chance but what can Irons really do until he has a chance to change personnel .

I've stated that DI/DC will have failed if we don't avoid the drop, and I stand by that, but one incident in the first half yesterday highlighted the problems they have inherited.

Jenkins picked up a ball in midfield, before pushing an absolutely immaculately weighted pass forward for Finlayson, who totally squandered a gilt edged opportunity to cut the ball across goal. Not Finlayson's fault, but a competent right winger would have done much better.

I'm also surprised to hear David McGregor as somebody's MOTM. He 's not a full back and never will be at this level.

JM's legacy lives on.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 12:06:36
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 15 2008, 07:52 PM) [snapback]419870[/snapback]
Home support has been getting poorer game by game - - - is it any wonder?

Well I suppose some of us thought that the signing of our all new management team who are going to be here 'for a long time to come' might have sparked a wee bit more enthusiasm.

Maybe folk aren't that daft Shoogly.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 12:09:16
QUOTE(Muz @ Mar 15 2008, 05:17 PM) [snapback]419739[/snapback]
Mortonjag is a helmet.

DI/DC have nothing to work with. Obvious from that today.

I cannot stand helmets. Mortonjag is a helmet.

So you agree that they have misjudged their capabilities?
mortonjag 2008-03-16 12:12:18
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 15 2008, 06:15 PM) [snapback]419764[/snapback]
Thistle should have scored when one of their players missed an open goal from 8 yards with no one near him. It was almost a tap in. But he managed to miss the ball blink.gif

Morton were absolute rank rotten in the first half. Really terrible.

In the second half McGuffie, Wake and Russell and came on we started to play. We rattled Thistle an became the most dominant team.
Thistle seemed happy with the draw. but we should have taken 3 points with the penalty.
Keeper made a decent save when he guessed right. McGuffie hit it well enough.

Thistle were well ahead in the first. I was behind McColl and watching his body language and interactions. He wanted to kill the game off early, cos they have a big cup tie midweek. It was obvious he had settled for a draw by midway through the second half.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 12:23:46
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 15 2008, 10:59 PM) [snapback]419988[/snapback]
Irons is a decent coach but he isin't a magician . For those (myself incuded ) who openly criticised almost every aspect of JM reign how are you going to turn that round within 4 weeks .

Irons will have limited influence with that squad , we simply don't have the quality in the correct areas .

Obviously we are all disappointed not to have won , missing another penalty shows the pressure of the situation . We were pretty gash 1st half , only Millar had 2 decent crosses but Thistle were far better .
We could all see we improved in the second . A clean sheet is a consolation if not a welcomed suprise .

Clyde had a big chance to get ahead of us and failed so the pressure is on all 3 teams vying to avoid the play off spot .

As Shoogly said Chris-sadly this is a results driven business.

I've been conscious of a better and healthier attitude all round since DI arrived, and his passion is undoubted (you might almost say OTT at times) but we still aint getting the results. No amount of good coaching GUARANTEES anything on match days.

I DON'T understand Robinson in goal-especially when Smith's steadying influence is missing-I DON'T understand Davie McGregor played at full back ahead of Alex Walker, I DON'T understand Jamie yet again played out of position, and I DON'T understand Wake favoured ahead of Graham.

I'm beginning to form the distinct impression that DI is at best average in the tactics and awareness departments, and no amount of jumping up and down, gesticulating, and shouting can make up for that.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 12:28:03
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 16 2008, 08:20 AM) [snapback]420067[/snapback]
Disagree completely. Yes they dominated the first half and should've scored but their play was as rotten as ours, only we didn't have the confidence and self belief required to get out our own half. It was 45 minutes of head tennis. The shed could've been renamed Murray Mound. Strawberries & cream anyone?

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Agreed Ratarse-Thistle were just better organised sh*te. You'd have to pity any neutral who paid to be entertained yesterday.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 12:35:07 Penalties are lotteries-I don't know why.

I'd tend to trust Jamie Stevenson most if my life depended on it.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 12:41:19
QUOTE(centralTON @ Mar 16 2008, 12:48 AM) [snapback]420022[/snapback]
Scram, I think, we give Jamie more credit than he deserves, he was at best, less than ordinary today. I am starting to think that the chairman would prefer us to be playing in the 2nd div next season.

I wondered that from the minute he tried to hang on to JM.

Worrying times.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 12:44:02
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 16 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]420126[/snapback]
i thought the fans although getting on the players backs yesterday, were different to how they were under JM.

under JM the fans would abuse and boo the players because of the general feeling of apathy and that disenchantment at the club.

yesterday i felt the boos etc were out of passion and wanting the team to do better, the fans wanted to support the players but they gave us absolutely nothing in the first half, which lead to frustration.

there were a lot more shouts of things like " C'mon Morton " when things were going bad yesterday rather than " Morton you're s***e, get to f*** Mcinally! "

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mortonjag 2008-03-16 12:46:26
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 16 2008, 11:25 AM) [snapback]420145[/snapback]
"Impotent"

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Clueless
mortonjag 2008-03-16 12:53:27 LEAFY will come good.

I can't understand the fickleness of some posters-against Clyde Robinson took dogs' abuse because he was deceived by the wind and fellow defenders. Yesterday he chose to punch clear on three separate occasions when he should have collected the ball comfortably. On at least one a Partick attacker should have picked up and rattled the ball past him-simple basic errors-and NO excuse IMO.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 12:56:55
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 16 2008, 11:06 AM) [snapback]420121[/snapback]
jag, gonnae reply to the posts in one reply, please?

Hey you- I've told you before I can't get the hang of it. Sometimes I can be VERY thick.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 13:01:12
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 16 2008, 11:25 AM) [snapback]420146[/snapback]
Guy came with me yesterday to his first ever Morton game. Was at work that morning and felt like doing something and knew I was going. Got a scarf outside and in we went.

First half he felt was poor but by the end of the game he was really getting into it and admitted he had had a lot more fun than he expected and will probably return when he can make it.

He did point out that Harding isn't that good and we punt the ball far too much. He also predicted the penalty being missed simply by the run up.

Was that just his opinion?
mortonjag 2008-03-16 13:03:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 16 2008, 11:30 AM) [snapback]420154[/snapback]
i agree about that penalty, ive never seen anyone score a penalty where they walk backwards and then just turn, run and shoot.

it is one of my pet hates in football. what ever happened to pick a corner, give the keeper the eyes and send the keeper the wrong way? sad.gif

Agreed. I thought McGuffie looked nervous as the keeper fannied about wasting time (not helped by that clot Finnie), and the minute he swivelled to shoot I just knew he'd miss. A total 'hit and hope' if ever I saw one.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 13:06:20
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 16 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]420095[/snapback]
They rarely seem to play well at the same time. One game it'll be Greacen that's carrying the defence and playing out of his skin, then the next game it'll be roles reversed and Harding producing the heroics.

We'll be fine IF they can start turning in consistent performances.

Big Stu was OK yesterday and Hardy was poor-I've often seen the opposite and agree with your take-they just can't play together.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 13:10:59
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 16 2008, 12:26 PM) [snapback]420190[/snapback]
we've had 5 points from what? 6 games. that is much improved results than before.

we won our first game in god knows how long.

we kept our first clean sheet since october and our first home clean sheet of the season.

we're making steady progress, which is all that can be expected when your players aren't good enough.

Well we're NOT going backwards, though nobody appears to have mentioned that Alan Moore did us a huge favour yesterday.Stirling could still overtake us in theory, and I'm NOT impressed by two points out of six in the last two fixtures. I'd have settled for four-BARE MINIMUM.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 13:17:12 Jamie seems a complicated character. At Alloa he was given the responsibility of running the show from midfield, and he was often stunning, even if it WAS just the 'second'.

JM never got the best out of him, and what confidence he had seemed to drain away.

Now we have our super new management team, who haven't even felt he's good enough for a guaranteed slot, and the boy continues to be 'messed about' IMHO.

I'm not saying it's entirely one sided, but if DI can't get the best out of Jamie either, somebody else will. His ability is unquestionable.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 13:26:24
QUOTE(ton1901 @ Mar 16 2008, 12:30 PM) [snapback]420194[/snapback]
He had a great game yesterday and right now prob our first choice defender, on form anyway, the now so stop moaning bout him. He puts in 100% and is alot better on the ball than the other 2.

I'm NOT moaning about Davie. I've been one of his staunchest supporters for several seasons, and have always admired his attitude and professionalism.

The fact is emerging, however, that Davie is a good all rounder and is not particularly great at anything. He doesn't have the pace to play against tricky wingers, and he hasn't the height required of a central defender.

I suspect he might just find a slot in midfield at first division level, but I'm not convinced-given that JM's squad is almost ALL bloody midfielders, what chance has he right now?

A final point-one of David's strengths AND weaknesses is his tackling-when he times it properly (as he did on several occasions yesterday) he can be 'a rock'. Unfortunately he is guilty of frequent unforced errors, and those have proved costly in the past.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 13:31:48
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 16 2008, 01:11 PM) [snapback]420215[/snapback]
As long as they both don't get time to think what to do I think they tend to do ok. Yesterday I don't think either of them lost a ball in the air, and I counted 3 great tackles or blocks from Greacen. Harding frustrates me in that 1 minute he'll play a long pass into the shed, next minute he'll play a raking 70 yarder right into feet. What's that all about?

I would happily see both leave in the summer, but the fact is that yesterday was our first clean sheet at home in the league this season and it was as much down to those 2, and of course David MacGregor, than anything else

Confidence.

He can drop the ball on a sixpence from 70 yards as you say. Hardy was more confident when he arrived from Livvy than he is now. Something not right there-eh?
mortonjag 2008-03-16 13:33:47
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 16 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]420218[/snapback]
Both our stats and Livvy's are influenced heavily by the games between us at Almondvale where over both games the aggregate score was 10-1. If you knock those figures out of both teams stats you get

Morton F 29 A 42 GD -13

Livvy F 35 A 52 GD -17

Which I think goes to prove that Livvy have been just as Sh1t against the rest of the league as we have.

The worrying thing is that Livvy have been the only team to really crush us this season and they come to Cappielow next week knowing they can do that to us! We will need to get a grip of that game and score first to equalise the confidence thing.

....or that our defence can't cope with their style?
mortonjag 2008-03-16 13:37:18
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Mar 16 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]420222[/snapback]
When he can be bothered

Correct-Mr Maitland seemed to be able to get him 'bothered'.

Pity others can't do the same.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 13:39:32
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 16 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]420230[/snapback]
QoS away.

Livvy away too



LEAFY
mortonjag 2008-03-16 13:42:14
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Mar 16 2008, 11:40 AM) [snapback]420161[/snapback]
094788 it was indeed.

£424.50

Was a Cowshed/Sinclair St ticket as my mate had the number before it. sad.gif

I always read it out 3-4 times at half time in case someone was in for a jobby and didn't hear it!

Jobby Scotia? wink.gif

I've noticed that the prize money usually reflects the crowd pretty well, but yesterday it was disproportionately high.

Jags fans appear to be bigger chancers than average.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 13:45:19
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 16 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]420240[/snapback]
we managed to get him bothered against the likes of Alloa and Forfar aswell, the same as we did.

he single handedly kept Alloa up, but by beating the teams around them.....basically pish.

he could have gone on to great things but my guess is that he's just going to be another one of football's wasters.

I can honestly say I've NEVER seen Jamie take control of any game for us as he used to do regularly at Alloa.

The boy's still in his early twenties, and my guess is that he'll prove you quite wrong!
mortonjag 2008-03-16 13:51:55
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Mar 16 2008, 01:48 PM) [snapback]420250[/snapback]
Weatherson is better than them all, and Templeman has proved time and again that he is

NOT FIRST DIVISION STANDARD

Statisticians as a breed are sad, anally retentive b*stards.

I make no apology for that comment, given the current unwarranted abuse of my own profession by some folk who should know better, and by others who don't.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 14:18:16
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 16 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]420255[/snapback]
Big fish in a small pond and all that. He cant handle expectations, either because he's not able to or because he doesnt want to.

people say that some players dont fit into teams because they're luxury players, but im a firm believer that its the bad players that are the luxury players, but Stevenson is the only exception to the rule that i know of.

And do you include in 'isn't able to' the effects of other variables?
mortonjag 2008-03-16 14:20:29
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 16 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]420258[/snapback]
weatherson either has days where the ball sticks to his feet and everythin comes of and all his lay offs are perfect. then he has days like yesterday where he has a touch of an elephant and he passes the ball to the other team just about every time.

its no crime to have a bad game, everyone has them but that doesnt mean he shouldnt be replaced if he is, even if the only option is Brian Wake.

Khali did score five or six for Hamilton-he hasn't showed any real skill yet, but he's clearly not useless.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 14:26:20
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 15 2008, 11:49 PM) [snapback]419999[/snapback]
only in america my arse. some wee lassie got four years the other week for running over and killing a cyclist after phone records showed she was texting at the time of the accident. not much fuss was caused by the fact that the guy on the bike had sailed through a red light in front of her car, right enough.

I inherently sense a trap, but I agree wholeheartedly with those sentiments, even if the cyclist was dyslexic and colour blind.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 14:28:55
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 16 2008, 12:09 PM) [snapback]420178[/snapback]
i never know what you're on about. are you a real person or just some virus?

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He is indeed a real person. I understand him perfectly. Perhaps you are the infection?
mortonjag 2008-03-16 14:29:50
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 16 2008, 12:50 PM) [snapback]420204[/snapback]
I'll tell you this for free, Churchill's new advert's are certainly pish

Royal Bank of Scotland IS pish.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 14:36:11
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 16 2008, 01:44 PM) [snapback]420246[/snapback]
I don't know if he's a fraud but he's always seemed like a bit of an arse to me. I thought his 'don't mess with the weegies or we'll give you a doing' routine was a bit embarrassing.

It was an emotive time DE-a few of us were branded racist in the aftermath.

It seems that the airport lot had the 'courage of their convictions' which I've been repeatedly reminded is an admirable thing. Would that they had been sh*tebags like me!

mortonjag 2008-03-16 14:42:22
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 16 2008, 11:37 AM) [snapback]420158[/snapback]
How shallow and dare I say naive of you auld yin to assume income equates to intelligence. I have met many highly intelligent people on modest salaries, and similarly many high earners who reached that level not through intellect but more their ability to 'talk a good game'. Bulls***ters in other words.

I would suggest that intelligence plays only a relatively small part in determining someone's salary.

And in any case, if your theory held any water surely you'd be penniless. tongue.gif

How dare you assume that you know what I assume?


I didn't sense that the terribly ugly one who blocks p.m.s from other wee girls had CHOSEN his penury. If he has, I indeed applaud his scorning of filthy lucre.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 14:43:56
QUOTE(ian clinging @ Mar 16 2008, 12:37 PM) [snapback]420197[/snapback]
Any excuse for another bit of catholic bashing eh lads? As a catholic I find some of the comments regarding the Pope deeply offensive and blatantly sectarian.

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mortonjag 2008-03-16 14:46:16
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 16 2008, 02:44 PM) [snapback]420287[/snapback]
The firemen were the real brave ones. They must have known that the car could have exploded at any minute yet they stood there hosing it down.

True-I also have great admiration for bomb disposal experts-even the dead ones.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 14:50:16
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Mar 16 2008, 12:25 PM) [snapback]420188[/snapback]
Christ - Wendy has got to be terrible if we're taking to granny-banger over her.

Granny banger?



Ageing sausage?



Don't kid yourself sick one-Bawheid and Souter are clearlybu bosom buddies.

Both protesting all the way to the closet.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 14:51:29
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 16 2008, 02:22 PM) [snapback]420265[/snapback]
Salmond popular ? We can't have that, Doc Doom and co say he isn't popular. How could they have got it so wrong ? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
And the SNP riding high in the polls as well....... wink.gif Uncomfortable reading for a few on here I bet ohmy.gif

I've never accused Bawheid of unpopularity Spurtle-I can't help the fact that 90% of the population are clowns.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 14:56:19
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Mar 16 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]420239[/snapback]
Do you not spot the obvious pun in talents? The man who uses and betters his is the rewarded and the one who does nothing with his talent is punished.



The pun has been incorporated by those who wish so to interpret. The original 'talent' as of 'King James' version, was a measurement which could be related to monetary value.

I have been well aware of both those facts for many, many years!
mortonjag 2008-03-16 14:57:31
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 16 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]420254[/snapback]
Aye, but Donald Trump makes no such claim. laugh.gif

He's keeping it as a trump card.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 15:01:50
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 16 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]420257[/snapback]
Pity that comedians don't post on it any more. Bloody hell but it's dull.

Did you hear the one about the guy who fell off the railway bridge Mr Edwards?

NO!





























HARD LINES!
mortonjag 2008-03-16 15:10:08
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Mar 16 2008, 03:03 PM) [snapback]420310[/snapback]
On the bench. Unfortunately, Jamie is a bottler. Not willing to 'mix it' and 'throws his dummy oot the pram' when things don't go his way (on or off the park). Second Division player at best. Shame though.

That is untrue.

Mind you I don't think you get much right. Did you see him play for Alloa, Smiffy?
mortonjag 2008-03-16 15:16:43
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 16 2008, 03:12 PM) [snapback]420317[/snapback]
And I rest my case.

I take it it's a heavy one.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 15:19:56
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 16 2008, 03:18 PM) [snapback]420320[/snapback]
I knew a girl that had a tattoo of a shell on her inside thigh, and when you put your ear on it, I swear you could smell the sea. tongue.gif

What do you give an elephant with diarrhoea?























Plenty of room.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 15:50:29
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 16 2008, 03:34 PM) [snapback]420329[/snapback]
I read an article on line in the Village Voice by David Mamet entitled 'Why I am no longer a brain-dead liberal'. In it he compares JFK (loved by liberals) to Bush (hated by them). I've always thought Kennedy was a power hungry fraud who brought the world to the brink of nuclear destruction on an entirely false premise. He also took credit for civil rights progress when in reality he kept MLK at arms length and it was his successor LBJ (again hated by liberals) that pushed the legislation through congress. Mamet's comparison goes further though: Bush got the US into Iraq, Kennedy got them into Vietnam. Bush stole an election in Florida, Kennedy and his Mafia pals bought one in Chicago.
I suppose one can excuse Bush because he's a cretin and 'his strings' were pulled by others more sinister. No such excuse for JFK though.

The Kennedys were a crowd of gangsters. Well known fact.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 15:53:07
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 16 2008, 03:43 PM) [snapback]420333[/snapback]
Getting a bit lighter.
Man went to the Doctor and said 'Doctor I've got a cricket ball stuck up my arse' and the Doctor said 'Hows that?' and the man said 'Don't you start!'

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'Ahm havin' the dug pit doon thi day'

'Is it mad'?

'It's no very pleased'.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 16:00:53
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Mar 16 2008, 03:53 PM) [snapback]420340[/snapback]
Many a time. Without doubt a good player in the Second Division playing for a 'wee team' with no pressure on him. wink.gif

Now you're talking 'skill'.

Was he a 'bottler' at Alloa?
mortonjag 2008-03-16 16:02:23
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Mar 16 2008, 03:55 PM) [snapback]420344[/snapback]
No doubt he'll be loaned out to East Stirling later this week. wink.gif

Clearly you think he was a JM signing then!
mortonjag 2008-03-16 16:05:05
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 16 2008, 04:00 PM) [snapback]420345[/snapback]
Woman's in the vets and the vet is examining her beloved labrador.
Vet says, "I'm going to have to put your dog down, madam"
"Oh my god!" she wails, "Is it terminal?!?!"

"No, he's just dead heavy."

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'Waiter, what's this fly doing in my soup'?

'Looks like the breast stroke Sir'.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 16:08:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 16 2008, 04:03 PM) [snapback]420348[/snapback]
i never know what you're on about

? ? ? ?

Are you suggesting that ignorance is bliss ?

How could Hitler invade Britain in 1941 ?

Are you close to finishing school ?

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That's naughty Newt-you know forza would eschew such establishments
mortonjag 2008-03-16 16:28:37
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Mar 16 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]420356[/snapback]
Took the words right out my mouth

he loved being the superstar in Alloa , Not as much here and he doesnt like it .

Id love to see him knuckle down and prove me wrong but I doubt it will happen

You seem to know something about him!

I take it he was this 'superstar' at Alloa because of his nice smile. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-16 17:44:39 Hmm-I got quite caught up in that. Moral victory to the Arabs IMHO.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 17:51:01
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Mar 16 2008, 05:07 PM) [snapback]420366[/snapback]
I'm not really a fan of player who wins the penalty hitting it, has a high miss rate attached to it.

Has it?
mortonjag 2008-03-16 17:52:17
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Mar 16 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]420359[/snapback]
I've never seen Stevenson smile. He's the most dour-faced player I've ever seen, even when he scores!

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mortonjag 2008-03-16 17:58:23
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Mar 16 2008, 05:47 PM) [snapback]420383[/snapback]
Yeah. blink.gif
Oh right, like when youse helped Thatcher get in? Did you vote for Maggie pal?
I voted for them for the local council, yes. Doesn't mean I've ever been a member of the Labour Party, does it?

You're forgetting that the SNP were key in Thatcher getting in to begin with, Brown may be giving her a fake smile to appease Middle England - but your party is responsible for her government.

I've a feeling that may be denied.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 18:02:19
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Mar 16 2008, 05:56 PM) [snapback]420387[/snapback]
Great viewing but really heart-breaking at the end - United were by far the better team today - they played some really good football and their midfield was excellent, especially Flood and Gomis. Rangers were shocking but a crazy, Morton-esque defensive blunder gifted them their first goal and they were helped by Kenny Clark who made two terrible decisions at the start of the second half. He denied United a blatant penalty and then should have sent the circus freak Broadfoot off for a shocking high challenge. There is just no justice in football.

And what a p***y Barry Ferguson is - the captain and former penalty taker, who had a s***e match, was not one of the five who stepped up to take a penalty in the shootout.

I'm not sure what p***y means in this context. If Rangers had lost on penalties, I think you could reasonably have described him as a poosy! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-16 18:05:43
QUOTE(barry lavety is a fat junkie @ Mar 16 2008, 06:02 PM) [snapback]420400[/snapback]
That's not all you have ever stated, you tedious old man. Take a look through your posts and you'll find a number of daft, incorrect and contradictory statements on your wealth of knowledge of "Scots Law" and "contracts". Grade-A walloper.

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Yet another!
mortonjag 2008-03-16 18:19:10
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Mar 16 2008, 05:57 PM) [snapback]420391[/snapback]
As far as penalties go, I would say so.

I rarely see the penalty winner dispatch the penalty himself.

You may be correct-I just wondered if you could produce those all important statistics! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-16 18:22:46
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Mar 16 2008, 06:06 PM) [snapback]420404[/snapback]
And? Any ten year old could tell you a talent is money - hence the pun.
''In the parable of the talents the f*ckin' chancer is portrayed as the 'goodie' while the cautious lad who lacked confidence in his own ability gets slagged off. I always found something inherently un-Christian in that one.''

This probably the ''Un-christian'' way to interpret it.

Are you OK-that outburst makes absolutely no sense at all!
mortonjag 2008-03-17 08:42:35
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 16 2008, 08:37 PM) [snapback]420499[/snapback]
if thats a sin to cure illness i am all for it...

Not so much of a sin as 'Holy' manipulation Bryan.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 09:15:55
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 16 2008, 06:36 PM) [snapback]420431[/snapback]
For me , we were in a hole and staring relegation in the face . Do you think we would hace fared any better had JM not been replaced .
We had a few decent moves but as you said not enough players who can deliver the ball to the strikers. It is evident we don't have the quality no point in weighing DI/DC with our expecttions until the new season .

Honestly MJ if we are going to aportion blame then that has to be as a whole season . The biggest mistakes have been made july/August they were compounded in January.

Chris-I'll spell it out-not for you, but for everybody who will try to pick holes just because I'M saying this.

David Irons and Derek Collins-like JM, are relatively INEXPERIENCED managers. DI was IMHO well beaten by Owen Coyle last season, but the Mileson Millions legacy and a last minute goal pulled him through to the SPL where Gretna were abysmal.

JM left Morton in disarray. The heads were down, and the writing was on the wall for relegation. Matters were not helped by our meddlesome Chairman who was firing pot shots at the home fans en masse while claiming he desperately wanted to keep his pet puppet.

JM left/was pushed/took the sweetener---who knows, but he went.


Now HERE is the nub of the matter.

Was DI appointed to save us from relegation or not?

If the answer is YES, and we go down (or stay up by default), I'm sure Davie will admit he's failed in the task which was set him.

Could it be, however, that the Shooglemeister has already accepted the possibility of second division football again.

After all, that's where they all shout 'Dougie-gie's a wave', and toss you up in the air after defeats at Kirkcaldy, and where you're the 'Biggie' among minnows and the crowds are better.

If his wee soiree's still on, some brave soul MAY dare to ask that question. I have long since accepted that Rae will never answer a question honestly unless it suits his purpose.

David Irons is already coming over to me as an extremely pleasant man----that gives me an uncomfortable sense of Deja Vu.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 09:21:26
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Mar 16 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]420522[/snapback]
Well that was an interesting day out. For all of you that have been less than positive this season I apologize. To be frank that was the worst display I've seen in the last few seasons. The first half, in fact the first 70 minutes, was pathetic to the point of being painful to watch. And it wasn't just the pointless hoofs up the park, it was the fact that not one player would take control of the ball and prefered to play head tennis to anyone, but on most occasions prefeably to anyone not wearing blue and white. Saying that while Partick were more composed on the ball luckily they were toothless in attack. The last 20 minutes we did appear to understand that possesion plays a major role in winning a football match and actually started to threaten a little. I can only think McAlister got the MotM for his shot in the second half as he was pretty much annonynous for the rest of the game. As for the penalty, to be honest we would have stolen the three points if it had gone in.

We all know these guys can play football when they stay composed and play the ball on the deck. They just have to get themselves in the right frame of mind and we will get the points needed to stay up. Hopefully then we can get a few players in to actually make this team play football.

ScotinBelgie

Indeed Robert, and whose job is it to get them playing properly-can NOBODY do it-does it just happen now and again by pure accident?

SURELY a good manager can get the best from his team, and if the best isn't good enough neither can be blamed.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 09:35:21
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 16 2008, 10:43 PM) [snapback]420590[/snapback]
Hmm, not like you to change the direction of a topic or thread to something you want to discuss or feel warrants greater discussion.

This is not stats, this is KPI's (key performance indicators) and they tell a significant story - a bit like yourself!

'anally retentive' - I'm sure you could give them something for that!?

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I prefer KP nuts, though they're pretty well in the same league Santa!



I'd find it relatively easy to define a KPI for a hooker, and in football we have those net things that the sides try to kick the ball into.


When it comes to complex organisations, KPI's are used as often as not as a JUSTIFICATION rather than a measurement, and often deflect attention from work in hand to ensuring that the KPIs look good.

I have extensive knowledge of General Practice (and practices) in Glasgow. Many months ago the league tables were published-league tabes which were supposed to give the service user an accurate guide to quality. They were generally inaccurate, and in at least 20% of cases at both ends of the scale were SO obviously misleading that I nearly pished myself laughing.


Call them numbers, statistics, KPI's or whatever.

Facts are chiels that winna ding!

Oh and numbers people DO tend to be anally retentive bores! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-17 09:38:45
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 16 2008, 11:05 PM) [snapback]420604[/snapback]
To save our season.

If all the teams around us win their games in hand - Stirling are 3 points behind us and Clyde are 2 points ahead.

We are not in a particularly good spot - and need a win against Livingstone on Saturday to start the recovery

MON THE TON

I believe the failure at Broadwood to have been KPI of the season!
mortonjag 2008-03-17 09:40:26
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Mar 16 2008, 06:31 PM) [snapback]420424[/snapback]
We kept a clean sheet yesterday. Credit where credit is due is surely not too much to ask. Greacen was particularly good yesterday.

What really irritates me is the fans who scream at our players for not finding feet when making a clearing header. Just so these guys know, Cannavaro doesn't often manage it, what makes you think it is possible for Morton players to manage it?! It has been mentioned earlier in the thread that some fans are far too quick to get on the backs of our players when they make a mistake; or sometimes even when they don't! There were plenty times when a long pass was made yesterday and as soon as it left the players boot folk were moaning. They didn't acknowledge the accuracy of the pass if it found feet.

We will need patience and encouragement if we are to win our remaining fixtures.

Agreed.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 09:44:19
QUOTE(Rodder @ Mar 17 2008, 08:47 AM) [snapback]420662[/snapback]
I am led to believe that Chris Innes has the choice of us or Dundee.
Greg Fleming will be on trial at Oldham from this morning.

Even though Gretna are in breach of contract, the administrators would need to sack the players in question
before they could sign for another team. Im sure they would have no problem in sacking them seen as they
are refusing to play.

Do you mean 'release them from their contracts'?
mortonjag 2008-03-17 09:48:46
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Mar 16 2008, 06:30 PM) [snapback]420421[/snapback]
Jamie was never under enough pressure at Alloa to be tested. Not a player to be relied upon when you're battling relegation IMO. sad.gif

Alloa (and Jamie) were under HUGE pressure to avoid the drop in his last season there. Week, after week, after week the newspapers were reporting that Stevenson had orchestrated unexpected results, and scored cracking solo goals.

I watched Jamie against us several times, and when he picked up the ball deep in midfield and started one of those runs, I was 's***tin' it.

mortonjag 2008-03-17 10:05:16 Many happy returns of the day.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 10:08:00 There is a simple remedy today, which I fully intend to apply to my 'better half'.

Buy her a St Patrick's day card!
mortonjag 2008-03-17 10:16:00
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Mar 16 2008, 08:06 PM) [snapback]420484[/snapback]
In not all States, but in a lot of them it's a crime to "aid and abet" someone in committing suicide. In short, either giving someone a loaded gun, given them a "loaded" syringe (i.e. Dr Kervorkian), and the like makes one an "accessory before and during the fact" of someone taking their life. In essence, you aided them in killing themselves, and although you didn't do it yourself, you gave them the tools to do it. Thus, you can be convicted of that crime....ESPECIALLY if the person continuously threatens to take their life (the law would assume that you, as an adult, would at least consider a little bit that they could be serious about doing it, thus it would be your job to stop them).

There's no difference between that and giving someone a loaded gun and "daring" them to rob a bank with it.

The guy in this case got what he deserved, along with the (I would believe) life-long guilt that he could've done something to save the girl (or even that he "killed" her by giving her the loaded gun to do it, whereas she didn't have one before-hand).

It's also a well accepted caveat in medicine that no matter how unlikely a suicide threat may seem it can never be totally dismissed.

Mind you I can still laugh when I recall the true story of Dr Berrie, and the guy who had police, ambulance, fire brigade, and press on tenterhooks as he threatened to jump from the high flats at Sighthill.

Anne was not known for patience, and was the unfortunate duty doctor called to the scene. She marched into the flat and right out to the balcony.

'I'm Dr Berrie', she told him, 'and I'm bloody busy tonight-are you going to jump or not?'

Apparently he took one look at that face of hers, and meekly walked back indoors.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 10:19:38
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 16 2008, 06:11 PM) [snapback]420406[/snapback]
I called every penalty minus United's last one based on the players face alone. Some of them looked like they were shietting themselves!

You have clearly missed your vocation!
mortonjag 2008-03-17 10:26:12
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 16 2008, 10:33 PM) [snapback]420587[/snapback]
All imperial plumbing now being jointed to metric, all floorboards up and 1930s tiles walls now have batons to suppport the new tongue and groove walls

another 12 hour shift today

..Bring on tomorrow

Watch yer heid wi' thae sticks Santa!

What T & G are you doing? I hope it's natural wid.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 10:28:37
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Mar 16 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]420596[/snapback]
128. Which isn't too bad for this time of night and and after a weekend of much excess after being suspended from work last week.

Abseiling for charity?
mortonjag 2008-03-17 10:32:06
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 17 2008, 07:18 AM) [snapback]420642[/snapback]
kd lang is gay?!?!?!?!?!? ohmy.gif

She claims to be one of those les bean people.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 10:33:15
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 14 2008, 08:45 PM) [snapback]419311[/snapback]
Fek !! The Chieftains are on BBC4 at 9pm ! Whit a night for music. Where's ma bodhran ?

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Under yer kilt bodhran bum.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 10:36:56
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 17 2008, 08:24 AM) [snapback]420652[/snapback]
I know, what's Tom like, eh? Daft auld fud. rolleyes.gif

Forza seems like a pretty good guy though so I don't mind being compared to him. smile.gif

....and I prefer Mr Bam's assessment!
mortonjag 2008-03-17 10:41:08
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 16 2008, 07:20 PM) [snapback]420458[/snapback]
The guy comes across as a "gallus" chancer.

In Glasgow I have noticed that for a number of people their view on Smeaton seems to be defined by which one of the ugly sisters they support. Quite pathetic.

Brown, Slamon et al have all been happy to share the "limelight". The lengths politicians will go to...

The wrath of bannock baws awaits you.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 10:43:20 One of the smartest ways of guaranteeing Smeato's continued success was to 'discredit' him.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 10:46:27
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 17 2008, 09:16 AM) [snapback]420670[/snapback]
Will they have to rename Gypsy Creams? In fact do they still make them?

Just googled and they don't, but apparently in Oz they have renamed them Romany Creams. FFS....

I think it may be slightly more sinister-most of the Roma around here indeed look like traditional gypsies.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 10:50:12
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 16 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]420411[/snapback]
Perhaps the 90% are right and your the clown rolleyes.gif

History would tend to suggest that the masses usually get it wrong.

Hitler is only one example of grossly misplaced trust in a cult hero Spurtle.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 10:53:44
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Mar 16 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]420509[/snapback]
Interesting. You prefered Margaret Thatcher's government to Gordon Brown's? Are you a policeman?



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Well-ARE YOU Spurtle Officer? wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:00:51
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 17 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]420698[/snapback]
Did you look at my face and predict I missed my vocation? wink.gif

No-I just thought that anybody who really BELIEVES he can predict nine out of ten penalties by the looks on the players faces should be competing with Bawheid in the personal unawareness stakes!
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:02:16
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 17 2008, 10:29 AM) [snapback]420701[/snapback]
Lee Robinson is probably the most confident at half time with his over head kicks and sticking the finger up at the fans, let him take it and handle the wrath if he were to miss.

You have a good point Robinson IS actually very accomplished at kicking-why NOT?
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:03:53
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 17 2008, 11:00 AM) [snapback]420719[/snapback]
Sorry to dissapoint. No I'm naw in the polis laugh.gif

Not even a Traffic Warden bannock baws?
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:05:05
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 17 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]420725[/snapback]
No way!!!!

Fraid so.

Are those les beans bad or sumfin'?
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:15:30
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 17 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]420700[/snapback]
Slang ?

Two descriptive analogies - arse like a fighting dogs ear and arse like an Aberdeen rosette - simple stuff.

Donald Trump - dump.

John The Baptist Fart - a prophetic fart - one which tells of greater things to come, usually solid.

I'm here to help.

Anyway, I digress - why do we do it. It clearly can't be good for the insides, I'm sure MJ will be able to put some medical angle on it - but it just can't be good for you - and yet when you fall out the pub you just have to do it.

Why ?

TonInDublin

True story TiD.


When the Koh-i-noor first opened in 1964, it was the first Indian restaurant in Gibson Street, and only the second or third in Glasgow. In response to its growing popularity, an extension was added in 1974. It continues to be run as a family business-by the present owner, Rasul (or Russell) and his son Waseem, the grandson of the founder.

A prominent public figure was visiting Glasgow in the mid sixties and was taken to the Koh-i-noor as a treat as he'd never tasted Indian food.

The original Mr Rasul was fussing about being hospitable (they always have been so) and the distinguished guest started asking about the menu. Rasul was doing his best in his pretty broken Glasgow accent, when the good fellow asked 'This vindaloo one-is it REALLY hot'

'Really hot' Rasul blurted 'Sir it will blow your f***in' heid aff'.











mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:20:32
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 17 2008, 08:56 AM) [snapback]420665[/snapback]
Tautology, I believe?

Tautological tautology?
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:21:42
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 17 2008, 10:03 AM) [snapback]420683[/snapback]
you forget Iron's has never seen Jamie play as a striker before, our strikers are struggling to score goals so why not give it a go?

im positive he will never start up front ever again.

Has Jamie taken the huff over training too! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:23:02
QUOTE(Malt @ Mar 17 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]420695[/snapback]
We are also intersested in Skelton, However he has also been offered a deal by Darlington.

Looks like we will miss out on the three :-(

Plus ca change!
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:24:34
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 17 2008, 10:35 AM) [snapback]420709[/snapback]
On Saturday for the first time I can remember in a long time the half time team talk turned things around for us. We were shocking in the first but whatever Irons and Collins said, worked. For Greacen and McGregor it turned potentially awful performances in to pretty good performances – esp McGreggor.
Had the penalty gone in, I think we'd all be feeling reasonably wink.gif confident about the season being 5 clear of Clyde and 2 ahead of Livi.

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What did he say-can you share please?
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:27:24
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 17 2008, 11:21 AM) [snapback]420740[/snapback]
Can't blame them for s***ing it if even they clear it to f*** they'll get some idiot behind me going nuts at them for not releasing Jim McAllister down the left with an overhead kick because that's what Paul Fenwick woulda done and how much we need a guy like him or John Anderson back in the team.. blah f***ing blah.

See thae blah blah wans-they know f*ck a'! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:32:44
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 17 2008, 11:24 AM) [snapback]420745[/snapback]
Wasn't the Rogan Josh invented in a Glasgow curry house, or similar tomato based dish?

I heard that one once - guy wanted tomato puree, perhaps even ketchup in his normal curry, they obliged, realised it was popular, and spread from there?

Rogan josh is an aromatic curry dish. Rogan means clarified butter in Persian, while Josh means hot or passionate. Rogan Josh thus means meat cooked in clarified butter at intense heat.

According to Lizzie Collingham's book Curry: A tale of cooks & conquerors,[1] Rogan Josh was brought to India by the Moghuls. The unrelenting heat of the Indian plains took the Moghuls frequently to Kashmir, which is where the first Indian adoption of Rogan Josh occurred.

Evidence of this is the typical absence of onion and garlic in the Kashmiri versions of the recipe as made by Kashmiri Brahmins, who had no qualms about eating meat, but were averse to using these spices in the kitchen.

See from others it was Tikka masala.


mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:36:43
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 17 2008, 11:33 AM) [snapback]420753[/snapback]
I'm naw even a gynacologist. But I'll have a look at it if you want ?

Dr Spurtle at my cervix-mm-can I think about it first?
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:38:28
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 17 2008, 11:22 AM) [snapback]420743[/snapback]
No, it's just she's such a looker I'm gutted she's not heterosexual.
MJ, I think she's probably the most famous lazer beam in music wink.gif

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I do understand your disappointment.

Many of those les beans dress up like men I'm informed.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:42:15
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 17 2008, 11:33 AM) [snapback]420754[/snapback]
That is so petty.

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You've un huff buttoned I see-welcome to loads of informed and informative postings from super Jag.

I was actually posing a serious question-now I'm wondering if you just assumed that the improvement was down to Irons.

I reckoned McColl settled for the draw early in the second half 'cos he's got a big cup tie this week and doesn't fear relegation.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:45:21
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 17 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]420757[/snapback]
Nah. They know f***ing everything. That's how you can tell they're a f***ing numpty.

What to one man is 'blah, blah, blah' may be music to another's ears though-they are surely allowed to have opinions!
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:48:10
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 17 2008, 11:12 AM) [snapback]420731[/snapback]
I've never thought it was right for white people to decide what is/isn't racist against other races. Whether it be claiming something is or isn't.

You really HAVE to be at the 'wind up'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:52:07
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Mar 17 2008, 11:49 AM) [snapback]420769[/snapback]
The party you love so dearly [probably more than independence] played a part in imposing her on us.

No amount of names you can call me can change history.

Not even thatcherspawn? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:54:38
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 17 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]420766[/snapback]
SPeaking of which - did you think Weatherson threw a strop? He seemed to chuck the armband at Jenkins.

A strap, sometimes also called strop, is an elongated flap or ribbon, usually of fabric or leather.

Guess he did!
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:56:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 17 2008, 11:55 AM) [snapback]420775[/snapback]
No chance, his throw was just weak and girly....kinda like his performance actually.

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mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:58:50
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Mar 17 2008, 11:54 AM) [snapback]420773[/snapback]
Not even p***k-nipples.

That's not a nickname-it's a serious genetic disorder.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 12:09:44
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 17 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]420780[/snapback]
Disagree? His performance was poor. And I felt it was good that Irons had the baws to sub him. Russle was far more effective.

Nice to see you coming round about LEAFY, though it's rustle!
mortonjag 2008-03-17 12:13:40
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 17 2008, 12:11 PM) [snapback]420783[/snapback]
You know what I mean. Pisses me off when some guy from middle England is doing his best to stick up for the minorities when he's not got a f***ing clue. Almost as much as another guy going "PC brigade" and all that s***e when he's got no right to tell someone else what should and shouldn't offend them.

Don't just quote the "white" part and take it literally.

I think what you're trying to say is that most folk with an anti racist agenda have bigger issues than those they accuse.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 12:15:03
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 17 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]420785[/snapback]
I'm not even going this year. Too busy packing for Jersey (or the big hoose if you live in MortonJag's fantasy land)

Don't forget the bum padlock!
mortonjag 2008-03-17 12:38:25
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Mar 17 2008, 12:17 PM) [snapback]420788[/snapback]
Did she exhibit any signs of hunnery before the wedding? If not then you should divorce her and then sue her for abusing your human rights.

1000

ten hunner to be precise.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 12:40:41
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Mar 17 2008, 12:26 PM) [snapback]420792[/snapback]
Well I mean, how gypsy was she? Did she have a crystal ball or anything?

Sexism as well Mick-did HE have two, and if so he could probably see himself coming.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 13:16:47
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 17 2008, 12:50 PM) [snapback]420811[/snapback]
I don't think that is the case. It is at times but not what I was getting at. An example from my own humble experience, would be the other week my mate called my other mate a poofter. Without realising he WAS gay. I apologised on his behalf, which I still reckon was the right thing to do, but he laughed it off and telt me not worry. It's not my place to tell this guy what he can and can't be called or what can and can't offend him. That's a minor thing but you put it on a bigger scale and it's just as patronising. People can fight and speak up for themselves and don't need others to tell them what they should and shouldn't accept. Moral guardians, whether liberal or conservative, are as sickening as each other.

You're friends with a real live pufe? I applaud that, and I even more applaud your bravery in coming out.

I'm led to believe that many men don't like pufes at all.

I'm also led to believe that many men SAY they don't like pufes when they haven't even met any.

I think that's a bit daft, but I'm not quite so sure about the les beans.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 13:21:45
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 17 2008, 01:05 PM) [snapback]420819[/snapback]
Is it PUGGS?

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mortonjag 2008-03-17 13:25:58
QUOTE(suda @ Mar 17 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]420824[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Mar 17 2008, 08:38 AM) [snapback]420658[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think Stevenson showed why he's potentially better than Millar on Saturday. Partick and Morton both filled up the middle of the park and there was no room for movement, Stevenson adapted with his one touch play and close control, whereas Millar looked lost.

For me Stevenson should stay in that role at the expense of Millar and Russell should be on the park as a second striker.

..............Taking Freekicks and corners too !!!!!!!!! mad.gif

tell me your taking the piss please!? Millar was out fought by Rowson on Saturday I'll admit but Stevenson's contribution was non existent. If by one touch play you mean he never got a 2nd touch then fair enough, he may of been out of position but he missed several headers when unchallenged never once got the ball down and turned towards the opposition goal and seemed generally lacking in confidence and heart. I'd leave him on the bench at this crucial stage of the season, if he needs wrapped up in cotton wool until his form improves then so be it hopefully he can perform better for 15 mins coming off the bench.

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That's all he said, and I agree. On form Stevenson is twice as direct as Millar who frequently runs about in circles with no end product.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 13:30:30
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 17 2008, 01:21 PM) [snapback]420829[/snapback]
I'm pals with a LOT more lesbians than queers. Wonder why that is.... unsure.gif

Seems a bit queer to me too-are you selectively homophobic perhaps or is that impossible?
mortonjag 2008-03-17 13:34:05
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 16 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]420584[/snapback]
I was about to post something like "If Ron Atkinson was speaking in my back garden I wouldn't go and listen to him," but that's a huge lie... I probably would listen to him as I was booting him senseless around the whirlygig for trespassing.

Your violence is so gentle-why not go the whole hog and boot his whirlygig to f*ck as well.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 13:39:55
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 17 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]420842[/snapback]
nothing is impossible.

i just prefer watching the lesbians pull than the gays smile.gif

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Pluck or pull-whiitever turns you on!
mortonjag 2008-03-17 13:43:20
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 17 2008, 01:36 PM) [snapback]420846[/snapback]
I have a very good friend who is gay. But I tell you what, I fcking hate gypsies.




I wish I lived in a caravan,
With a horse to drive, like the pedlar man!
Where he comes from nobody knows,
Or where he goes to, but on he goes!

His caravan has windows, two,
And a chimney of tin, that the smoke comes through;
He has a wife, with a baby brown,
And they go riding from town to town!

"Chairs to mend and delf to sell!"
He clashes the basins like a bell;
Tea-trays, baskets, ranged in order,
Plates with the alphabet round the border!

The roads are brown and the sea is green,
But his house is just like a bathing machine;
The world is round and he can ride,
Rumble and splash to the other side!

With the pedlar-man I should like to roam,
And write a book when I came home;
All the people would read my book,
Just like the Travels of Captain Cook!



I remember being fascinated by that wee poem as a child.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 13:47:47
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 17 2008, 01:34 PM) [snapback]420844[/snapback]
And still you miss the point. You seem to be of the view that the SNP should have supported a Labour government that was doing nothing for Scotland, that was actively deceiving the Scottish people. In withdrawing their support, all they did was facilitate an election. The electorate of the UK, or to be more accurate the electorate of England, then chose to elect the Tories.

Maybe you should instead have been lobbying for independence - that way Scotland would have been spared Thatcher.

If the SNP had continued to prop up Labour in 1979, Labour would have continued in power doing all the things they had been doing. You're surely not claiming that would have been a good thing? Do you remember the 1970s? Were you actually there? What David Edwards said is spot on - the country was a disaster area. And much as I dislike Thatcher, Hitler she wasn't by a long way.

I want independence. As long as the SNP support that aim, and as long as they don't wander too far to left or right, and as long as they prove themselves to be the best party to govern Scotland as they are proving at the moment, they will have my support, even though I have one of two fundamental disagreements with party policy (faith schools being the main one).

I well remember what I still regard as the most accurate election slogan of all time.




LABOUR ISN'T WORKING
mortonjag 2008-03-17 13:56:45
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 17 2008, 01:47 PM) [snapback]420865[/snapback]
Used to have lunch at the Koh i Noor in Gibson Street every Friday when I worked at Park Circus in the 70s. 50p I think it was for 3 courses. Or 35p plus 1 luncheon voucheras we knew it.....

Was the first curry house in that area not in Bank St just across from the side of the Men's Union? Maybe that was the site of the original Koh i Noor when it first opened - when I was at uni, the restaurant on that site was called the Green Gate and was regarded as unsafe to eat in for reasons of hygiene.

If we wanted to go upmarket, we went to the Shish Mahal, also very good food but a bit pricier.

Jewel in the Crown in Dumfries is a great Indian restaurant.

I'm pretty certain that was never a curry house. The Koh-i-noor started in Gibson St., just up from the corner of Park Rd where Arnold Clark opened his first car showroom. It was supported at the back by 'stilts' as part overhung the Kelvin, and I believe safety was the main reason for moving from there to North St at Charing cross.

The original 'Shish' was on Gibson St-further up on the other side, and almost at Bank St. They used to let you BYOB as they had no licence. They were 'done' for VAT evasion-BIG style!!!
mortonjag 2008-03-17 13:58:03
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Mar 17 2008, 01:51 PM) [snapback]420869[/snapback]
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Harrrumph, thankfully they weren't there on Saturday.
Who actually benefits from them being there eh?
I know they're not doing any harm but half dressed wee lassies dancing about to euro-pop trash in front of a couple of thousand footy fans...???

Sorry veering off topic into rant territory...

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SH**G**
mortonjag 2008-03-17 14:04:20
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 17 2008, 01:57 PM) [snapback]420875[/snapback]
has she changed her name to Eileen ?

She apparently sloped off sharpish with the dough.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 14:06:54
QUOTE(rex manning @ Mar 17 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]420854[/snapback]
Apparently McGuffie was the penalty taker at his previous club and never missed one.

Scotty has asked to hit them from now on.

Could be wrong, but Scotty would hit EVERY dead ball if they let him!
mortonjag 2008-03-17 14:13:10
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 17 2008, 01:39 PM) [snapback]420851[/snapback]
we're forever hearing about Mcinally, Templeman, Greacen, Harding etc not being good enough at this level. Why is Stevenson different?

All you've ever done is see Stevenson play against diddy teams that even Mcinally, Templeman, Greacen and Harding could beat easily.

Millar has proven this season he's a good 1st division midfielder, proven by his move to one of the leagues top teams.

you have never seen Stevenson be on form, none of us has. we've seen him play a good game and then be anonymous the next game.

much like Templeman on his day he could probably play at the top level of scottish football but they dont have enough of these days. That's why Templeman is playing 2nd division football next season and whatever happens with us Stevenson should be aswell.

I saw him on form several times at Alloa and he was streets ahead of anything we had in midfield then. I agree that Millar is a very useful player who has looked twice as good SINCE he knew he was leaving, but he will never be able to run through defences AND finish the way Jamie can. Don't forget Midge has gone through patches when he wasn't exactly cutting it, and was the boo boys favourite.

What goes round tends to come round if the talent's there and with Stevenson it undoubtedly is.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 14:16:27
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 17 2008, 02:10 PM) [snapback]420882[/snapback]
they are better here than last year rolleyes.gif tongue.gif

A little perhaps, but not in terms of the ones who are likely to shout 'Dougie-gie's a wave'! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-17 14:19:49
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 17 2008, 02:11 PM) [snapback]420883[/snapback]
Owa! Ya wee cow
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mortonjag 2008-03-17 14:26:32
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Mar 17 2008, 02:13 PM) [snapback]420884[/snapback]
Not doing any harm but not beneficial, so why bother?

I guess folk assume you know everything because you're tannoy man.

Mr Rae is besotted with the May Hughes Dancers. One of his most valued possessions is a framed photograph of them with him in beside them.

He believes they raise the crowds spirits, and even made a naughty wee comment in the 'Shoogly Peg' about them doing MORE than that for him! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-17 14:28:19
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 17 2008, 02:24 PM) [snapback]420892[/snapback]
How'd you come up with that one?

Reminded me of 'tiny tasty chewy sweets'!
mortonjag 2008-03-17 14:42:31
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 17 2008, 02:21 PM) [snapback]420890[/snapback]
how could you possibly see Stevenson on form at Alloa unless you were at all their games? You saw him have a good game at Alloa....against Morton. He's had quite a few good games sprinkled here and there for us, but never a prolonged run of form.

Chris was young then and with that came inconsistency, he seems to be over that stage now and is a top 1st divison midfielder who will only get better.

Sadly i think Stevenson has came as far as he is going to, which is a shame.

The difference in the two being attitude. Chris has taken a lot of knocks since he's been here and every time fights back and becomes an even better player because of it. Even at Alloa facing relegation everything was going well for him, the first sign of something not going his way and he becomes invisable for over a year.

Hold on sonny boy-how do you know what matches I do and don't attend? I saw Stevenson several times against Morton, and a couple more at Alloa-my Daughter in Law is a Wasps supporter and they live in Menstrie. Several times he was f*ckin dynamite-END OF!

I've always rated Millar since he first played for us against Queens Park at Hampden, but the suggestion that his maturing process has been quicker than Jamies is daft, particularly as he's a year and a half older (a long time in a young footballer's career).

I'm willing to see the good and bad in every player-Jamie may well have an 'attitude problem', but so have many world class footballers throughout history. It's up to the management to sort that out or let him go. Just DON'T tell me the boy can't play football-oh and don't tell Alan Maitland either.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 15:09:31
QUOTE(carlito @ Mar 17 2008, 02:46 PM) [snapback]420901[/snapback]
Montrose at Links Park... you're thinking of John Adam! ph34r.gif

As far as I was aware Millar and Adam both played their first games that day at Hampden, when Adam scored with an excellent strike. What were the dates of the two matches?
mortonjag 2008-03-17 15:19:37
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 17 2008, 03:00 PM) [snapback]420911[/snapback]
they play on the same day as us, so unless you missed 3+ Morton games in a row to attend Alloa matches (using 3 games as the basis of being on form and not just playing well) then thats exactly what you've done....seen him play well. Which is something every single Morton fan has seen him do, just not nearly enough.

i said the difference between the two was Attitude, nothing to do with maturing process. Millar had came back from knock after knock, criticism after criticism by the time he was Jamie's age. He'd get left out the team for a period of games at least twice a season but always come back and be a very important part of the team. Stevenson has went missing for at least a year and shows no sign of ever coming back, or even having the desire to come back.

the difference being they are world class. Stevenson is nowhere near good enough to have an attitude problem, he needs to put in hard work on and off the pitch if he's ever going to make it at a decent level of football, something he doesnt seem willing to do.

i didnt say he couldnt play football, i said the difference between him and Millar is attitude and that all Stevenson has ever done is prove himself against 2nd division opposition that players that have been slated by Morton fans were good enough to play against and beat comfortably.

Jamie Stevenson is not the messiah, he's not our savior, he's not going to save us. He isn't good enough to start games for us, which is saying something and he should be on the bench til the end of the season and then released back to the 2nd division where he belongs, so he can keep a team up by scoring against Cowdenbeath and Alan Maitland and you can have a crywank over him because he's not at your respective clubs anymore.

I DON'T lie-simple-there's no point. There was a glut of fixtures at the end of that season, and I took in two evening matches at Alloa, and one Saturday match-can't remember why-so aye, I did see him play at least six times, and that was enough to convince me of his ability.

OK so you're ONLY criticising his attitude-or so you claim while making it crystal clear that as with many of your generation you have an irrational dislike (or love) for given players.

I won't go back on what I've stated. Based on the potential I saw at Alloa Stevenson is streets ahead of Midge in terms of pure football. Get that sorted and we're talking SPL fees.

I may be wrong so don't bother repeating yourself-time will tell! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-17 15:21:04
QUOTE(carlito @ Mar 17 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]420918[/snapback]
Heh, no idea what dates they were. I just remember the Montrose game well, as it was midweek and I didn't get home until about 2am!

Are you REALLY sure that that was Millar's first match?
mortonjag 2008-03-17 15:24:43
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 17 2008, 02:48 PM) [snapback]420903[/snapback]
My apologies, it was Davie McArthur I was precising, not David Edwards. I blame post-traumatic stress for my error....

You've been paid?!!!!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-17 15:27:51
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 17 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]420904[/snapback]
Actually it might have been the Shish that started where the Green Gate was.....

I think that's ringing bells-the shop on the Bank St. corner-opposite the Union was some kind of eatery, but never Indian.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 15:32:30
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 17 2008, 03:11 PM) [snapback]420916[/snapback]
Aye, I always do really high quality jobbies after a heavy session.

MJ, explain please.

I believe the spices act as a 'stimulant' laxative-they cause minor irritation in the large bowel which in turn results in increased mucus production, water retention, and activity of the bowel muscles.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 15:38:24
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 17 2008, 03:29 PM) [snapback]420926[/snapback]
i dont have an irrational dislike for any player at Morton, if anyone has a good game or even does something well i will acknowledge it and want every player at Morton to do well.

Jamie has the ability to be a good 1st division midfielder if he worked hard, nothing more or nothing less. ive been one of Stevenson's biggest fans since he came and could never understand why he wasn't in the team, everyone including myself were making excuses for him time and again that he wasnt playing well (or playing at all) with every excuse under the sun, wether it be Mcinally, being played on the wings, People on Parachutes interrupting his warm ups, the grass being too green, the temperature being 1o too cold.

its time for Jamie to take responsibility for once, as you say he has ability....so if he really wanted to he could be in our team every week helping to control the midfield, but he's not and i've finally came to the realisation that its not everyone elses fault...its no-ones but his own.

That's much clearer.

Now explain this.

IF DI is allowed the luxury of being judged at the end of the season for the mess JM's left for him, why is Jamie miraculously expected to recover from a similar problem overnight?

He looked good at Hamilton, but was not picked at Clyde. Then he was played out of position AGAIN on Saturday. FFS-is it REALLY all his fault?
mortonjag 2008-03-17 15:42:16
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 17 2008, 01:54 PM) [snapback]420872[/snapback]
InverclydeNow
A 46-YEAR-old man was robbed in his home in the west end of Greenock.

He allowed two men into his flat in Kelly Street around 3.20pm yesterday.

They demanded money from him and left with a small sum of cash and some cigarettes.

Both robbers were about 25-years-old old. One was 5ft 7in tall, with blond hair and wearing a green wax jacket and denims.

The other was about 5ft 5in tall, of medium build, with brown hair, and wearing a black hooded top and denims.

Anyone who saw them is urged to call police on 01475 492500.

Will I start it off Sean? wink.gif



Our thoughts are with the family.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 15:44:10
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 17 2008, 03:41 PM) [snapback]420932[/snapback]
Think he was talking about the booze?

Not quite so sure about that-partly stimulant, and partly osmotic I'd guess.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 20:55:17 cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Mar 17 2008, 07:26 PM) [snapback]421059[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->(under McInally) Millar was given dozens more chances to play in his favoured role than Stevenson or Templeman EVER were and some weeks he stunk the place out and never got dropped ! INCLUDING EARLY ON THIS SEASON

If you could give a fair assessment of Stevenson and Millars abilitys I think you will find Stevenson on any given Saturday has more to offer. You certainly can't compare the two in a Morton jersey because they have not had an equal share of the pie.

I know Stevenson has a huffy attitude but coaches should be able to deal with all personalities for the good of his team !


McInally and his pets dry.gif[/quote]
Indeed CB-McInally WAS a pest.

Folk are bloody good at twisting the picture to fit. When we were nearly top of the old second it was common acceptance here that there was little between that and the average in the first. That was the VERY time when Jamie gave us a couple of roastings at Alloa-a time when other managers were singing his praises too.

I believe that had he gone to almost any other club he'd have come on in leaps and bounds. It's FAR too much of a coincidence that NOT ONE SOLITARY PLAYER at Cappielow since Rae took over has moved on to greater things, unless you count Midge to St Johnstone. That makes sad reading, as it's hardly a quantum leap. The boy's obviously seen the sense in getting out, and get out he will.

We have sprachled along from day one with Rae's so called wealth and patronage-ALWAYS flattering to deceive, and ALWAYS failing when the chips have been down. That appears to be the hallmark of the Shooglemeister, and may also become his legacy.

Nobody ever gets everything completely right or wrong, and it's frankly laughable in the extreme that Irons is being excused scrutiny by many on the basis that it's ALL JM's fault. JM is no longer at Morton FC.

Irons is still a relatively untried manager. We still don't know how independent he will be of Rae's clutches.

When players like Alex Walker, and Jamie, and LEAFY and young Graham start to blossom and display their undoubted skills, I'll begin to believe that for the first time under the 'Maister', we have a true manager.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 06:38:31
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 17 2008, 09:12 PM) [snapback]421105[/snapback]
MJ, if Jamie really does have the talent you profess he has then playing centre mid, wide right or up front shouldn't really matter to such a gifted youngster. Perhaps one of the reasons he asked to do various jobs in the team is because Irons too can see what he can offer and is asking him to step up to the plate in areas where we may be deficient. It speaks volumes for Jamie that he is unwilling or unable to do that. A real shame.

He was able at Alloa-if he's unwilling the management need to sort it or let him go.

Maybe it speaks bigger volumes that inexperienced management appears unable to re-kindle his undoubted skill.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 06:40:38
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 17 2008, 10:11 PM) [snapback]421132[/snapback]
I think the only coincidence is McInally, I know Rae is the common denominator but it will take a few fresh months without relegation looming for Irons to really show his metal.

If truth be told, Morton in the playoffs would have been relegation under McInally, with Irons, I'm quite hopeful we would win through and maintain our place in the league.

Time will tell wink.gif

Indeed and I can see Jamie playing in the SPL in three seasons but NOT for Morton.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 06:44:04
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 16 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]420435[/snapback]
I was in there last Saturday afternoon and my mate got a pint that came with free lipstick on the rim of the glass. Bargain.

He must be a mean b*****d.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 06:46:14
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 17 2008, 05:54 PM) [snapback]421002[/snapback]
I think you have mis-interpreted that but it I can see the ambiguity.

It says they left with some cigarettes, well if the victim had, say, 14 left in a 20 deck, and the robbers made off with all 14, then they would indeed have left with some cigarettes.

I am not trying to make light of what must have a traumatic incident for the victim.


Though it may have been an insurance job.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 06:49:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 17 2008, 08:45 PM) [snapback]421090[/snapback]
How could I indeed. The man that ran away from the circus to become an accountant.
Edit to add: And thought Edwina Currie was attractive.

Made me think of Mileson, the accountant who ran away from a circus to become a life support machine test pilot..
mortonjag 2008-03-18 06:51:34
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 17 2008, 07:34 PM) [snapback]421068[/snapback]
and a major part of the british media. i feel sorry for the guy - he's just some regular joe who gave an interview when he was still hopped up on adrenaline, was created a national hero by our press and political class and is now going to have his life destroyed by jealousy and pettiness.

what a s*** country this is
.

Feel free to jump ship.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 06:53:57
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 17 2008, 08:58 PM) [snapback]421099[/snapback]
no matter what he did/didnt do i think he's quite a likeable guy. he does seem like someone who would have been funny in school. pure chancer!

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

You do have a soft spot for life's chancers!

Funny thing is forza you also appear to have no time for those who have made something of themselves.

Any issues there?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 06:57:25
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Mar 17 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]421106[/snapback]
Aye. The tragic part is that the same folk who we're lauding the bloke the most at the time will be the first ones to jump on the torches and pitchfork bandwagon. No wonder marketing men make an easy living with the amount of simple minded planks that inhabit this country.

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I think Smeaton has been used as a safety valve for a huge quantity of pent up steam.

It's not quite PC, and may be construed as racist to want to boot f*ck out of Muslim terrorists.

Enter Mr Smeaton.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:01:58
QUOTE(franco @ Mar 17 2008, 04:58 PM) [snapback]420976[/snapback]
Think it was called Joe's Garage in the early 80's MJ. Might have been Italian, although i could be mixing it up with Spaghetti Junction (or similar named place) in the lane off Byres Rd (possibly Ruthven).

That's all so ridiculously vague it is unlikely to help, i realise, but hopefully will jog a memory or two.


That also rings a bell. The corner shop has changed hands many many times over the years I believe. It's not very big. I definitely have a memory from the sixties of seeing folk sitting inside at tables-some kind of cafe then as I recall.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:04:18
QUOTE(lemmington @ Mar 17 2008, 08:55 PM) [snapback]421096[/snapback]
Cant explain why but I just love hot curries even sitting there with my forehead swetting,my nose running like a burn and not to mention the next day's visits to the lavvy.As the Johnny Cash song goes "ring of fire".

Well you are after all a Morton supporter-masochism comes easily to us.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:07:21
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 17 2008, 10:32 PM) [snapback]421141[/snapback]
10.5KW gents - which is wired back to the main distribution board

The shower will be mains fed - the waste is now in place and the wid T&G is now on two walls, another marathon day and once more, bring on tomorrow

The carpet fitters are coming, the large skip is arriving (kin 160 quid!!!) and the fireplace and gas fire is fitted tomorrow.

Plastering should finish tomorrow as well

Bring it on

Sanity (and ironically, slowly losing the plot!)

You are a master of understatement Santa! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:08:18
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 17 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]421046[/snapback]
So you know a LOT of girls who tell you they're lesbians? Ok stud.

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mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:15:43
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Mar 17 2008, 10:54 PM) [snapback]421158[/snapback]
Nope, improper use of the internal email policy. I had emailed a colleague commenting that if the bullying and harrassment did not stop from our line manager I would be going off sick. Duly 2 days later I picked up a bug from our 4yr old and was off sick for 3 days. It has been alleged that constitutes gross misconduct as I followed through with my threat off going off sick and their is now unretrivable trust between me and my employer.

In other words me n the boss don't get on and she wants me out!! I can only hope my employment lawyer earns his £150 an hour!

Bullying and harrassment from line managers is a frequent cause of people 'going off sick'. It won't be difficult for a decent lawyer to point out that you just worded the e-mail rather unwisely, which was unsurprising as you were clearly at the end of your tether. The employer IMHO is already two steps towards 'constructive dismissal'.

There again you may be a lazy layabout who deserves the lot! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:17:54 Wouldn't dream of using a laptop except on the move.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:19:46
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 18 2008, 12:56 AM) [snapback]421185[/snapback]
A British brain surgeon has used a backyard drill to successfully remove a brain tumour from a fully conscious patient.

Henry Marsh used the $65 Bosch cordless drill during a visit to Ukraine — a far cry from the $65,000 compressed air medical drill he would normally use, the UK broadsheet Daily Telegraph reports.

His patient was only given a local anaesthetic because he could not find a fully trained anaesthetist.

Mr Marsh said this was beneficial because he could talk to his patient to ensure he was not causing brain damage.

He attached normal surgical bits to the end of the 9.6 volt drill but admitted the procedure wouldn't have been comfortable. He said Ukrainians could handle it because they were "tough".

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

Wee Nickerless has just put in an order with Bosch as I type.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:23:20
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 18 2008, 07:05 AM) [snapback]421203[/snapback]
i'm planning on it, dullard.

Good
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:27:12
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 18 2008, 07:11 AM) [snapback]421206[/snapback]
The thing is, guys, Smeaton IS making something of himself.

Yes, he wanted to shun the limelight at first. He did, I remember it well. Check out the Smeaton website, they couldn't find the guy for weeks. Then, he came out of hiding. Embraced it.

So, he's got a a 'column" in a newspaper. If you had the chance of having a laugh and changing your life, stuck in a dead end job, wouldn't you take it?

MortonJag, you're a snob.

You missed my point entirely Donga, though I'm undoubtedly a snob.

I think Smeaton is entitled to take what he's being willingly given, and good luck to him-I DON'T see him as a chancer.

I've just happened to observe that forza has a strange take on life. Everything is simplified into the 'haves', and the 'have nots'. The latter are the goodies with whom forza associates himself!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:30:17
QUOTE(mentalton @ Mar 17 2008, 07:10 PM) [snapback]421047[/snapback]
Stupid old bas@ard deserves everything he gets, what did he think she saw in him but pound signs, if these guys are stupid enough to think one legged tarts fancy them then they deserve all they get, guys a p***k anyway. Its that poor wee wean i feel for, 4 years old and only getting 35 grand a year, how will she survive on that. Im 52 and have to get by with the same, but i dont need to buy diapers etc etc.

By the way, anyone ever shag a one legged burd, quite fancy it myself.

Put an ad in the Tilly.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:34:10
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Mar 18 2008, 12:20 AM) [snapback]421183[/snapback]
Good luck to the lassie. She was married to a guy who thinks his name will buy him anything.

Having had first hand experience of working with them both your all falling into the McCartney press machine. The guy is a complete toss pot. His lassie that got married over at Mount Stuart House is as arrogant as he is.
I mind seeing her take a tantrum because she asked a member of staff to take her dog a walk, the guy was busy and she threw a mega tantrum and reminded that member of staff she paid the wages and ordered the guy off the premises. Just like her dad would do.

Mills always took time to come out and speak to the workers and spend time asking how they where and always went out of her way to thank people who helped her.

Her ex is one of the most arrogant people around, a face for the media and another face for those who work with or for him.

Money and fame has went to his head, good on her for putting up with his s***e.

I'm always interested to hear first hand experiences in such situations, but don't expect folk to believe you.

I've met Mr Rae BTW! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:36:28
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 18 2008, 07:28 AM) [snapback]421220[/snapback]
I don't know him well, but know him well enough to know he's as good as gold, MJ - a good guy. Might be looking after you someday! smile.gif

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Not if I get the chance to look after him first. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Oh I'm sure forza's a lovely man, and I just misjudge him almost as much as he misunderstands the Jag!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:37:48
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 18 2008, 07:36 AM) [snapback]421225[/snapback]
Hmmm - you think?

Off to work now-QUICK! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:39:28
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 18 2008, 07:25 AM) [snapback]421217[/snapback]
care to place a wager on that? tongue.gif

No
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:39:57
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 18 2008, 07:29 AM) [snapback]421221[/snapback]
Oh mammy daddy, get the white coat men!!! smile.gif

Time will tell!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:44:39
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Mar 17 2008, 04:23 PM) [snapback]420948[/snapback]
If Millar was up front he would be piss as well. I also distinctly remember Millar pulling out of every tackle that came his way right up until his injury earlier this season and yet he was still praised endlessly, yet Stevenson gets lambasted for not having an impact in a position alien to him, so I find it strange that Chris is held up as the epitomy of the eternal hard-worker. I really can't blame Jamie for being sick and tired of how he's been treated here when he's had to sit and watch chancers like McGuffie, for example, doing absolutely nothing whatsoever and still doesn't get a chance.

We're so uncreative in the middle of the park and have nothing at all to link the midfield with the attack which results in the constant stream of long balls, yet we consistently refuse to use the one player we have who is capable of filling that void in that role, instead wasting him on the right wing or at centre-forward. Also, the issue of McAlister being used on the left really needs to be addressed as we aren't seeing anything like his full ability out there. Whether that involves trying Graham for a few games on the left to allow Jim to move to the right, using MacAnespie there, or making a proper left-sided player the priority in the summer, we need to do something to get the best out of a player with Jims potential.
As has been said, I seen nothing yesterday to suggest that we've moved on from McInally's inadequacy - the players available to us are not that bad. A decent manager should be able to create a decent, coherent unit that can deal with a team as hopelessy mediocre as Thistle from the resources available.



A bit harsh E, but only in that the boys HAVE seemed more 'up for it'. Mind you that may have come from the Manager in Chief rather than DI.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:45:22
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 17 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]420956[/snapback]
is 0-0 draw and missing a penalty to win not dealing with a team like thistle? a draw was a fair result against a team who btw are rightly ahead of us in the league.

Thistle were abysmal.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:49:06
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Mar 17 2008, 07:00 PM) [snapback]421036[/snapback]
To address your points:
1) That was a pathetic opening point.
2) We have only seen them in a handful of games and while neither has set the heather alight, they have both performed well at a higher level, so hopefully it is just a case of them finding their feet. (I hope they do it quickly right enough!) Jenkins and McGuffie have not performed badly, they just have not been the saviours that some folk on here were misguidedly expecting.
3) Millar was subbed first because he was injured.
4) McAllister was playing left wing back, not left back. He is excellent with the ball at his feet, but to say he is creative and the best midfielder in the division is lying. His crossing needs improving and in general his passing could be improved as well. That is not to say he isn't a good player with a cracking work rate and commitment. If every Morton player had his work rate we would not be in the position we currently find ourselves in. Jim is not the best midfielder in the division at the moment, but I have no doubt that he will be a success if he moves onto Motherwell in the Summer. I don't know why he is not given the ball more often as he can beat a man which is something few (if any) other Morton players can do. Also, what makes you think he was unhappy with his role?

To address your points


1/ You think everything is just 'hunky dory'!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:52:47
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ Mar 17 2008, 07:58 PM) [snapback]421076[/snapback]
Just hope the "Thomsongate" game at Hamilton doesn't have a bearing on the final position
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Still awaiting an explanation.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:58:43
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 17 2008, 10:16 PM) [snapback]421135[/snapback]
As self promoted heid bummer and chief poster - you must be right!

Again - 'pished yourself laughing' - should you not be using tenna ladies?

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I will as soon as that Nickerless one puts them on prescription-NOT GOOD ENOUGH that poor old incontinent souls have to pad their perineums with yesterday's paper while neurotic, rich, and arrogant young smuts march into surgeries at 9 p.m. for check ups on their non existent lumps! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 08:39:31
QUOTE(SramTon @ Mar 18 2008, 12:39 AM) [snapback]421184[/snapback]
I would've replied earlier but my wife has worked back-shifts yesterday and this evening and I "agreed" to do some housework whilst she was away. As we know:
So I thought I better get on with the cleaning rather than waste time on here and risk getting my ass sued off me!

With regard to "legal qualifications", I've posted my profession several times on this board and its predecessors over the years. I'm not a qualified solicitor but I do work in the legal field, and I am professionally qualified with all but one of my professional exams relating to law.

I don't pretend to have any legal expertise outside a very narrow field, but within that field I know more than many qualified solicitors (and less than many others).

Anyway, returning to the (sub-sub-)topic:
Generally speaking, I am happy to concede the above statement. However, what you said at the outset, and what I do not concede is:
If you cannot think of a single example of an agreement that two parties could make that would not be legally bindingon either party, then I'm afraid we are going to have to agree to differ in our views smile.gif
Btw, my breath really is baited - you should try smelling it! Recommend a good mouthwash, doc?

Well that's settled a few issues then. We've been knocking lumps out of each other when you actually agree with me.

Once we can also agree on the definition of an 'agreement' we'll truly be in agreement I'd imagine.

An 'agreement' which subsequently was proven to be a 'non agreement' in Law, was surely never an 'agreement' in the first place.

Don't you agree?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 08:41:20
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 18 2008, 01:10 AM) [snapback]421187[/snapback]
sad.gif

What are you frowning at Trumpet-away and do some work.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 08:43:04
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 17 2008, 10:17 PM) [snapback]421136[/snapback]
Willowman did indeed win it.

Where is he?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 08:45:30
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Mar 17 2008, 05:02 PM) [snapback]420977[/snapback]
Not sure exactly who, but what we need most is an Alex Williams type striker. Not saying we should get him personally, but he's certainly the type of striker we're crying out for.

We also need a big, powerful guy who'll win headers and put himself about - someone like, dare I say it, Brian Wake, although whether he is the answer or not is questionable.
And cover for those two. Punt Weatherson and we'll have a wee bit of money to use on replacements smile.gif

LEAFY is in that mould. No striker can strike unless he is supplied properly.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 08:49:41
QUOTE(piehutt @ Mar 17 2008, 06:35 PM) [snapback]421025[/snapback]
I really don't know who we are going to get, but we def need someone.

Weatherson is not consistent enough and Russell doesn't have enough to his game.
Wake is def not going to be the answer.

I think Brian Graham deserves more games, but I wouldn't say for sure that he's going to develop into a goal scorer at this level.

I am dissapointed that Russell hasn't worked out better, he scored barrell loads at Brechin. I don't think he's a lost cause and would prob get 15 goals a season for us - but he's too light weight and some games pass him by without him influencing it at all.

Considering Liam Buchannan came from a similar background at Cowden, he seems to have been a much better addition to the 1st division with Thistle.

Height 5' 11" weight 11 stones!

What to you want-a f*cking elephant in fitba' bits?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 08:51:01
QUOTE(Marc @ Mar 17 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]421155[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Mar 17 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]421067[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Whoever we go for he will end up at Dundee anyway so its pretty pointless talking about it tongue.gif

laugh.gif That could be a good thing, again. Sturm unsure.gif

Poor old Shoogly was devastated when Sturm reneged! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 08:52:46
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 17 2008, 05:12 PM) [snapback]420983[/snapback]
Keenan will be back at Morton after next Saturday's game.

Good
mortonjag 2008-03-18 08:54:40
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 17 2008, 07:30 PM) [snapback]421062[/snapback]
s h i t t i n g m y s e l f blink.gif

Try some codeine phosphate CB!

Deano's not all bad-just much misunderstood.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 08:55:46
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Mar 17 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]421112[/snapback]
Certainly not the most gifted player we're likely to see but given the seasons about attitude and bottle now I'd give him a run out.

Never thought I'd say that but my standards are clearly dropping sad.gif

Saves making a mess.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 08:57:16
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 17 2008, 10:34 PM) [snapback]421144[/snapback]
Keenan's also a decent full back. Would give us a chance to switch to four at the back if needs be.

Correct-the best left back in the squad IMO.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 09:01:50
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Mar 18 2008, 08:56 AM) [snapback]421264[/snapback]
Did Keenan not try and stick the nut on McInally once as he was walking towards the tunnel when he was subbed?

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There was a minor altercation at Forthbank-a game in which JM's ineptitude was largely covered by blaming Deano for giving away a free kick, after which McInally subbed him when he'd hardly been on for ten minutes.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 09:04:43
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 18 2008, 08:22 AM) [snapback]421238[/snapback]
There was a blabbering old fool
his name was Mortonjag
16,000 posts all that has been proven is
he's nothing but a great big s***ebag.
tongue.gif

unsure.gif

Are you OK Wordsworth?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 09:07:46
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 18 2008, 08:33 AM) [snapback]421242[/snapback]
It's sickening when you look at what we could and should have taken from the two Clyde matches and the Jags game. Fexake!

Well you cant blame DI for one of those.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 09:09:51
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Mar 18 2008, 08:46 AM) [snapback]421255[/snapback]
Don't be silly ............ at Old Trafford they have personal servants that arrive at the toilet to wipe your arse then they personally read the number to you before handing you your delectable prawn sandwich.

Did you not know that? I thought it was common knowledge! ohmy.gif

With the same hand I presume.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 09:12:13
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 18 2008, 09:07 AM) [snapback]421270[/snapback]
Indeed. Jamie Stevenson is running the show that day. Templeman's height and ability to hold up the ball is giving the Stirling defence problems and we're 1-0 up. Twenty minutes to go McInally decides to go a bit more defensive, not really a bad thing, but taking off Jamie Stevenson, our most creative player, when perhaps taking off Millar was the thing to do, and then taking off Chris Templeman for Bobbly Linn, giving us two midgets upfront and losing any chance to give our defence an easy "out ball" when under pressure, completely handed the onus onto Stirling. Dean Keenan tries to make a tackle thirty yards from goal and draws a foul and Stirling go onto win 2-1. Easier to blame the young guy bursting a gut to make a tackle than the guy on the side who should have known better.

And what was even more unfair was the subsequent abuse Keenan got. He should have decked JM.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 09:13:49
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 18 2008, 09:07 AM) [snapback]421269[/snapback]
jealousy will get you nowhere, i can see you're sweating at the fact theres a new kid on the block ready to take your master of poetry position on this board.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

When does his first post arrive?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 09:23:11
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 18 2008, 08:37 AM) [snapback]421245[/snapback]
f***ing hell man 6.53 am!!! do you set your alarm so you can see what i'm upto?
btw cheques in the post donga wink.gif

Early to bed, and early to rise makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 09:25:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 18 2008, 08:15 AM) [snapback]421236[/snapback]
Is she planning DYI ??

blink.gif

Dae yersel in!


I sincerely hope so Newt!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 09:28:58
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 18 2008, 08:36 AM) [snapback]421244[/snapback]
Heather Mills' rant came across as bitter and vindictive - the bit about having "only" £35k a year for her daughter was, um, priceless. And the bit about how it cost £17k for a first class return flight somewhere. Well, Heather, welcome to the real world. Why should you expect to sponge of someone else for the rest of your life? Even if it's true that he is also a nasty piece of work as someone has suggested.

With £25 million in the bank, the interest alone will be about £1.5 million a year at least and probably a good bit more than that. Enought to live in comfort. Get some dignity, you bloodsucking bitch.

I don't care too much for money

Money can't buy me love! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 09:34:19
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 18 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]421279[/snapback]
laugh.gif
soon....very soon.
watch your back, thats all im saying. tongue.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Don't worry PT, I permanently wear body armour and a catheter bag.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 09:37:58
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 18 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]421287[/snapback]
I use a desktop when I am at my desk but when I am out I use my laptop to capture data directly which would otherwise go on paper and then have to be entered on the computer when I get back to the office. So its horses for courses.

One thing I do hate are these stupid finger pad point devices. Give me a good old mouse any day, particularly since optical ones will work on almost any surface where the old roller based ones needed a flat/mousemat suface.

I use an optical mouse on the laptop-much easier.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 09:39:54
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 18 2008, 09:33 AM) [snapback]421288[/snapback]
Rugby at Murrayfield - Scotland v England
CAN YE HEAR THEM SING?!
Ye come up here tae paradise, tae beat us at your game,
Aw'wind and piss and full o' s***, Yer aw the bloody same,
Ye caw yersels the champions, the nations most elite,
Scotland are the champions, Yuv just been f------ beat.

A game that wis invented, fur English gentlemen,
No Highland Jocks we tartan frocks, well bliddy think again,
A baw that's shapit like an egg, it's jist a stupit farse,
A suppose it maks it easier, tae ram right up yer arse.

So git back hame an lick yer wounds, yer a bunch o stupit fools,
It's time fur you tae cheat again, change the f------ rules,
Rugby, fitba, cricket tae, yer jist a shower o chancers,
Stick tae whit ye dae the best, you morris f------ dancers

Nothing wrong with Morris Dancing....




if you like that kind of thing.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 10:28:09
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Mar 18 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]421292[/snapback]
Christ! reading through this pash has been like watching Rumpole of the Bailey meets murder she wrote....ma brains numb noo......Simple question was, Chris Innes, could we get him, will he come? WE ONLY WANT AN ANSWER ON THIS DAMNED QUESTION NO CIVIL BLOODY PRE AGREEMENTS....geezuz bloody wept... blink.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Aye if Shoogly offers enough munny and he AGREES, although it would have to be a proper agreement-you understand, not one of those agreements which isn't really an agreement because some quasi lawyer's heid's up his arse! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 10:31:50
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Mar 18 2008, 10:13 AM) [snapback]421295[/snapback]
Unfortunately not! In fact, I can't see beyond us finishing 9th this season as we have looked inconsistent at the back and toothless up front. And by missing out the midfield with long balls, we are missing out some of our best players. Also, bad luck (or unfortunate and unforseen events), allied to poor performances, seems to have typified our season. The last two games have been prime examples of that: the goal conceded against Clyde and the penalty being saved on Saturday in the last minute.

That said, the opening point in the opening post was a waste of time, throw-away remark.

A victory against Livi on Saturday would lift my spirits, but at the moment, I cannot see beyond us having an extended season.

Aye, but is it all Cappie's fault?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 10:36:23
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Mar 18 2008, 10:10 AM) [snapback]421293[/snapback]
Feck all to do with Rugby but was emailed this wee ditty the other day...

JIM O SHACHTER

Intae the wids amongst the trees
Jim bared his erse, his cheeks tae ease
Nae sooner had his breeks gan doon
Than s***ty flees were swarmin roon

Intae the wind he bared his baws
And frae his erse a big keech faws
The reek it curled amongst the trees
Twis enough tae mak the birdies sneeze
An a the beasts in burn and ditch
Got a whiff o something awfy rich

Big Jim he wis in awfy pain
It came out his erse like a nine pun wean
There wis a tear faw fae his ee
Fur a bigger s***e yould never see

Big Jims erse wis raw and sair
Says Big Jim ah wull s***e nae mair
Yonder it lay among the grit
A steemin, stinkin muckle s***

There it lay sae soft sae fresh
Nae hair, nae teeth, nae brains, nae flesh
Tae wipe his erse Jim yaised a docken
While a aroon the birds were boacken


Jim happed it ower wi stanes and stoor
Then sauntered off across the moor
A wee bit quicker wi bein sae light
Efter riddin himself o that muckle s***e

Noo ave telt ye this tale for a wee bit laughter
A tale ye can tell for ever after
A tell ye noo, a swear it’s true
The tale o Jim o Shachter's poo.

Some of the expressions are as witty as the rhyming is crap.

I particularly like the couplet highlighted, though I guess it should be 'boakin'.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 10:40:33
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Mar 18 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]421301[/snapback]
no...it just makes my missus a happy womanbefore she goes to work in the morning tongue.gif

Does she shower thereafter or just walk funny all day?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 12:11:14
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Mar 18 2008, 11:29 AM) [snapback]421311[/snapback]
thats so the wrong question to ask.......

Just wondered-did I say something wrong?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 12:12:37
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 18 2008, 10:46 AM) [snapback]421306[/snapback]
i thought you were still talking about MJ there and your missus and being happy about it. ohmy.gif laugh.gif

Oh I'd imagine my missus is younger than Flights! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 12:15:00
QUOTE(centralTON @ Mar 18 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]421315[/snapback]
Was Joe's Garage not in Otago St, just off Great Western Rd. Have certainly been in it in the early-mid 80's, diner style food, very similar menu to the Filling Station / Littlejohns.

South Indian garlic chilli chicken takes a bit of beating, not as harsh on the ring next day. wink.gif

Coincidence-had one from Turban in Giffnock last Saturday-very hot on the palate but gentle on the arse.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 12:21:41
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 18 2008, 12:11 PM) [snapback]421333[/snapback]
Joe's Garage was definitely on Border Street. It was owned by the guy who also owned the newsagent on Gibson Street. I new the girl he married. I am sure she competed at international level in the 400 m's. I realise both bits of information are of no interest. tongue.gif Just trying to provide credibility to my story. wink.gif

I've never heard of a 'Border St.' in Glasgow HT, though I'm sure I've heard of the 400m!


Where is/was it?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 12:24:25
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 18 2008, 07:23 AM) [snapback]421216[/snapback]
Heather Mills only has one leg.

Hitler has only got one ball.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 12:30:08
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Mar 18 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]421310[/snapback]
and if you want proof that this is not an unusual occurrence Craig Thomson is a lawyer!

As is his buddy pal Clark!

Thomson claims to be a specialist in construction law and is damned good at constructing stories.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 12:33:41
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 18 2008, 12:14 PM) [snapback]421335[/snapback]
I don't think he has legal experience

That's an awful shame.

It would have been nice if he'd understood the meaning of 'agreement'! ph34r.gif wacko.gif wub.gif dry.gif sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 12:37:01
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 18 2008, 11:55 AM) [snapback]421326[/snapback]
LoL I know it's strange.

BTW who said it was a guy in the suit? cool.gif

Of course it's not-it's your friend Santa Claus keeping fit for Christmas.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 12:38:03
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 18 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]421353[/snapback]
Erm...no.....we have taken their management and 2 players and may get more.

Who have we given them? wink.gif

Alibi, who may possibly prove to be worth more.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 12:39:55
QUOTE(Torro @ Mar 18 2008, 12:24 PM) [snapback]421348[/snapback]
were are you going to live ?

thing i always missed when living away was being able to get a nice big drink of good tasting water from the tap !

JAIL!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 12:45:13
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 18 2008, 12:26 PM) [snapback]421350[/snapback]
Aye quite right. I meant to say Bank Street. Goodness knows what I was thinking.

Just as well I had my facts to back me up wink.gif

Don't worry HT, it happens to clever people too! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 12:49:01
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 18 2008, 12:34 PM) [snapback]421355[/snapback]
Unashamedly stolen-

Hitler stood on the burning deck
His pocket full o' Haws
Wan fell down his trouser leg
And...paralysed his Baw......

We lay upon the grassy bank
My hands where all a quiver
I undid your suspender belt
And your leg fell in the river


(Sir Paul to Heather 2004)

We lay upon the grassy bank
I couldn't stop myself
I ran my fingers up your thigh
And cut them on a skelf.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 12:57:38
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 18 2008, 12:54 PM) [snapback]421365[/snapback]
But surely a feeder would be the one given the players? As in if someone fed lions meet they would be the feeder.

...ach who cares really?

The feeder feeds the one who is fed surely.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 12:59:23
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 18 2008, 12:54 PM) [snapback]421366[/snapback]
Probably because theirs looks like a team mascot tongue.gif

No it doesn't - it looks quite ridiculous.

Cappie looks like a nice stripey poosy.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 13:06:03 Much easier to think of what I wouldn't miss, which I can't put in writing.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 13:12:22
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Mar 18 2008, 12:58 PM) [snapback]421370[/snapback]
Chris Innes - f*** knows.
Agreements in Scots law?
Only dealing with this was a friend who had 'agreed' to buy a hotel several years ago which was concluded by handshake.
While in the process of dragging through some money grabbing b*****d of a lawyer the owner decided he did not want to sell his hotel after all.

Result - Court case which my pal won, secured compensation, although the sale of the hotel did not conclude they all lived happily ever after.

laugh.gif

I suspect, Barbarossa, that that 'agreement' may have been a 'real' agreement, and not of the SramTon type, the definition of which is still awaited.

When is an agreement not an agreement-when sram says so!

Agreements between two parties are binding under Scottish Law! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 13:14:32
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 18 2008, 01:10 PM) [snapback]421375[/snapback]
...ach who cares really?

The fed if the feeder stops feeding?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 13:17:08
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 18 2008, 01:09 PM) [snapback]421374[/snapback]
Whatever gets your EKG going wink.gif

EKG Puggs?


ECG or something more obscure?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 13:20:00
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 18 2008, 01:16 PM) [snapback]421378[/snapback]
yeah but id imagine his Grandchildren are younger than yours tongue.gif

If flight has grandchildren my missus is definitely younger than his.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 13:21:48
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 18 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]421379[/snapback]
Off to Jersey.

The tap water's another one actually. Notice that whenever I'm down south.

Full marks for perseverance.

Did you pack the bum padlock or just opt for the big vaseline tub?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 13:29:05
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 18 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]421389[/snapback]
An electrocardiogram (ECG or EKG, abbreviated from the German Elektrokardiogramm)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EKG wink.gif

I had to look up Wikipedia to get ECG from EKG, a term no self respecting Scottish physician would ever use.


History

Alexander Muirhead attached wires to a feverish patient's wrist to obtain a record of the patient's heartbeat while studying for his DSc (in electricity) in 1872 at St Bartholomew's Hospital.[4] This activity was directly recorded and visualized using a Lippmann capillary electrometer by the British physiologist John Burdon Sanderson.[5] The first to systematically approach the heart from an electrical point-of-view was Augustus Waller, working in St Mary's Hospital in Paddington, London.[6] His electrocardiograph machine consisted of a Lippmann capillary electrometer fixed to a projector. The trace from the heartbeat was projected onto a photographic plate which was itself fixed to a toy train. This allowed a heartbeat to be recorded in real time. In 1911 he still saw little clinical application for his work.

The breakthrough came when Willem Einthoven, working in Leiden, The Netherlands, used the string galvanometer invented by him in 1901, which was much more sensitive than the capillary electrometer that Waller used.[7]

Einthoven assigned the letters P, Q, R, S and T to the various deflections, and described the electrocardiographic features of a number of cardiovascular disorders. In 1924, he was awarded the Nobel Prize in Medicine for his discovery.[8]

Though the basic principles of that era are still in use today, there have been many advances in electrocardiography over the years. The instrumentation, for example, has evolved from a cumbersome laboratory apparatus to compact electronic systems that often include computerized interpretation of the electrocardiogram.[9]
mortonjag 2008-03-18 13:31:01
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 18 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]421392[/snapback]
I'm too old to need them in Jersey.

laugh.gif

OK then-you've convinced me!

Will you be giving us peace, or still spouting?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 13:36:38
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 18 2008, 01:27 PM) [snapback]421391[/snapback]
It's all about the music, puggs, it's all about the music.

Academy = sh1t acoustics. Soul-less.

You DARE criticise the downstairs bar of the Barras?!?!? WITH THE 12 INCH TRANSVISION VAMP RECORD WITH WENDY JAMES LOOKING AS SHAGGABLE AS SHE EVER DID EVER!?!?!?

Away with you! smile.gif


shaggable



means f***able, but not as rude as. to describe someone who looks sexy, and you only want to have a sexual relationship and nothing more i.e one night stand



I just wanted to check Donga!

Is she also one of those les bean people?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 13:38:05 Our thoughts are with the shoal.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 13:39:48
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 18 2008, 01:34 PM) [snapback]421397[/snapback]
Aye but not only am I not a physician I am not very self respecting biggrin.gif

Don't believe all that stuff Fr. Murphy taught you Puggs-it's perfectly natural.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 13:43:29
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 18 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]421404[/snapback]
No I mean it might be a girl.
dry.gif

she?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 13:44:38
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 18 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]421402[/snapback]
Gone to his final resting plaice

...and may Cod rest his sole.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 13:49:59
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 18 2008, 01:45 PM) [snapback]421408[/snapback]
The latest polls show that if there were a Westminster election tomorrow, the SNP would return about 27 MP's.

Wonder if they would topple Labour if it were a hung parliament ? rolleyes.gif

My latest poll shows that if Shipman was still alive he'd be coming to get you Spurtle, but don't believe a thing those polls tell you!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 13:54:09
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 18 2008, 01:51 PM) [snapback]421415[/snapback]
Dunno yet. Perhaps spouting but at less frequent intervals.

Just give the Ton a good press-I believe they're all French down there so they probably don't read the Tilly.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 13:56:39
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 18 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]421420[/snapback]
I'm not sure, but I'm going to have a right good think about it.

I was thinking that it wouldn't really matter if she was a les bean as long as she let you shag her, but maybe that's too simple.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 14:01:54
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 18 2008, 01:48 PM) [snapback]421410[/snapback]

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


F*CK THE SPL


F*CK THE OF
mortonjag 2008-03-18 14:03:35
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 18 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]421419[/snapback]
How sad.

Indeed-I hope you don't find it patronising when I try to make it less so for you darling. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 14:06:26
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Mar 18 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]421423[/snapback]
Holy carp, I can't believe he is dead.

I actually found those adverts quite disturbing-all those innocent little cherubs following that old perv below decks to see what he could do with those big fishy fingers.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 14:32:34
QUOTE(centralTON @ Mar 18 2008, 02:30 PM) [snapback]421435[/snapback]
Are you and he not lookalikes?

No longer apparently. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 14:37:28
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 18 2008, 02:16 PM) [snapback]421430[/snapback]
God you're boring. Was that seriously meant to be amusing in any way?
The sadness to which I was referring, as well you know, was your dull, unfulfilled, dismal and tiresome existence.

Less of the irreverence mortal, and please stop taking the Jag seriously, even if you can't apply the same principle to yourself.

Life's too short-have a laugh-your face muscles may hurt initially but with practice you'll get to enjoy it!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 14:39:26
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Mar 18 2008, 02:30 PM) [snapback]421436[/snapback]
Whatever floats your boat. unsure.gif

Or in Shoogly's case, raises his mast!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 14:41:01
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Mar 18 2008, 02:35 PM) [snapback]421439[/snapback]
"When he eventually did retire from the role, actor Thomas Pescod took over. "

laugh.gif

Never quite scaled the original heights.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 14:46:23
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 17 2008, 09:17 PM) [snapback]421111[/snapback]
I think many would say a penalty is down to luck also blink.gif

Common misconception. Goalies nowadays usually decide which way to go, and you may have noticed during your crystal ball gaze last Sunday that De Vries sent McGregor the wrong way-or at least waited for him to move before coolly stroking the ball into the other corner. Penalty taking is an art.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 14:54:43
QUOTE(centralTON @ Mar 18 2008, 02:46 PM) [snapback]421447[/snapback]
Was not doubting your credibility, Honor, just getting my bearings wrong, Bank St is not far from Otago St. Spent a lot of time in the West End early-mid 80's and have been in many eateries in, and around the Hillhead / Woodlands area, but, with that being nearly 25 years ago, combined with the amount of bars we used to frequent, it's all gone a bit fuzzy.

Otago St is one street East of, and parallel to Bank St. Both run between Gt. W. Rd. and Gibson St.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 15:02:11
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 18 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]421450[/snapback]
He doesn't finish the chances he gets.

Really-tell that to a Brechin fan young Deegan.

All strikers miss chances-that Hun Boyd has been getting pelters all season-still won them the game on Sunday, and he'll be GOD for a week.

Only as good as your last game and if LEAFY gets the proper supply on Saturday he'll score. There again Wake may be on instead of him. After all he won us a penalty last week!!!!!

mortonjag 2008-03-18 15:13:31
QUOTE(cmdc @ Mar 18 2008, 02:57 PM) [snapback]421456[/snapback]
So long as the parties to the agreement intend to create legal obligations. If, for example, I come to an agreement with my dad to build him a wall in his garden (I have no building skills so this is highly unlikely) this may or may not be legally enforceable depending on the circumstances, one of which being the intention between me and my dad for the agreement to have legal consequences.

Ignorance of the law is no excuse. I'm afraid you're just falling into the same trap as others have done.

If you can actually explain what you mean I'll try to understand.

The law IS the law and nobody is exempt from it. Thus agreements, promises, pacts, contracts, arrangements-call them what you will-made between two parties are binding in Scottish law irrespective of knowledge by the parties of the current legislation.

You can't drive through red lights with 'the intention of that not having legal consequences'!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 15:16:07
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 18 2008, 03:11 PM) [snapback]421470[/snapback]

Shortest strike in history-nothing seems to last down Gretna way.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 15:22:27
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 18 2008, 03:03 PM) [snapback]421464[/snapback]
CODE
Sorry, you're right I'm not funny and really quite boring.

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Are you not even going to try?




Bring me sunshine in your smile, bring me laughter all a while
In this world where we live there should be more happiness
So much joy you can give to each brand new bright tomorrow
Make me happy through the years never bring me any tears
Let your arms be as warm as the sun from up above
Bring me fun bring me sunshine and bring me love

Bring me sunshine in your eyes, bring me rainbows from the clear blue skies
Life's too short to be spent having anything but fun
We can be so content if we gather little sunbeams

Be light hearted darlin' all day long keep me singing a happy song
Let your arms be as warm as the sun from up above
Bring me fun bring me sunshine and bring me love

Bring me sunshine in your smile, bring me laughter all a while
In this world where we live there should be more happiness
So much joy you can give to each brand new bright tomorrow
Make me happy through the years never bring me any tears
Let your arms be as warm as the sun from up above
Bring me fun bring me sunshine.... bring me love

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mortonjag 2008-03-18 15:24:19
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 18 2008, 02:44 PM) [snapback]421446[/snapback]
I guess he is sleeping with the fishes.
took me hours to come up with that one rolleyes.gif

You're better at the odes.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 15:27:18
QUOTE(princessTON @ Mar 18 2008, 03:21 PM) [snapback]421476[/snapback]
i prefer laptops because thats what i use biggrin.gif

...and Morton because that's who you support!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 15:31:33
QUOTE(princessTON @ Mar 18 2008, 03:25 PM) [snapback]421482[/snapback]
i just seen how many posts you've done today ohmy.gif 105!!! your a sad man tongue.gif

Stop stalking me child-now where was I-oh yes



Bring me sunshine in your smile, bring me laughter all a while
In this world where we live there should be more happiness
So much joy you can give to each brand new bright tomorrow
Make me happy through the years never bring me any tears
Let your arms be as warm as the sun from up above
Bring me fun bring me sunshine and bring me love

Bring me sunshine in your eyes, bring me rainbows from the clear blue skies
Life's too short to be spent having anything but fun
We can be so content if we gather little sunbeams
Be light hearted darlin' all day long keep me singing a happy song
Let your arms be as warm as the sun from up above
Bring me fun bring me sunshine and bring me love

Bring me sunshine in your smile, bring me laughter all a while
In this world where we live there should be more happiness
So much joy you can give to each brand new bright tomorrow
Make me happy through the years never bring me any tears
Let your arms be as warm as the sun from up above
Bring me fun bring me sunshine.... bring me love



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mortonjag 2008-03-18 16:18:48
QUOTE(cmdc @ Mar 18 2008, 03:40 PM) [snapback]421485[/snapback]
What I am saying is not to do with legislation, but with the agreement between the parties themselves.

If two parties come to an agreement, then that agreement will only be legally enforceable where the parties intend for their agreement to be legally enforceable. This is an objective test applied by the court. In some cases, such as business agreements, it will be presumed that agreements are legally enforceable. In other situations, for example between family members (like building a wall for my dad) it will be presumed that there was NO intention to create legal obligations (in other words, to enforce the agreement, upon breach, in the courts). In both cases the presumption can be overturned by giving evidence to the contrary.

This is about two parties creating obligations between themselves, not criminal law, which the road traffic offence would be.

Firstly I'd like to thank you for answering in a civilised manner.

I'm still confused-I've no doubt that you are quoting the principle, but I still cannot quite get my head round the concept of 'evidence' overturning the presumption in business arrangements that they are legally enforceable (as in the Chris Millar situation).

I stated at the outset that all agreements under Scottish Law are legally binding.

Perhaps I should have said 'All agreements under Scottish Law are legally binding except those in which there was no intention by either party to enforce on breach, in the courts'.

Mind you that is still puzzling-if there was 'no intention to sue upon breach' how could the matter ever come to court?

If it was because one party changed his mind he'd be in breach of the original understanding (not to sue), and bringing the case to court would be frivolous.

Furthermore, in the sense that the agreement in its totality incorporated the understanding 'not to sue', in throwing the case out, the court would be UPHOLDING the original agreement.


No?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 17:44:05
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 18 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]421502[/snapback]
Dear Doctor Jag,

My wife said she intended to let me have sex with her on Saturday night. When Saturday night came she had a headache and in any event regarded 'Dancing on Ice' as a better offer.

Please let me have your guidance on how to sue for compensation or alternatively settle for doing it twice next Saturday

If your agreement incorporated the understanding that you could sue in the event of breach, simply 'phone your nearest friendly lawyer. I'm sure you'll find his fees are similar to your own. Compensation will of course depend on an estimate of your physical/psychological loss in material terms, and you may not be able to expect very much. (I've not met your good lady, and haven't a clue how long it is since you last got your hole).

If your agreement incorporated the understanding that you could not sue in the event of breach and you attempt to sue, I suspect the court will find that you are in breach of the original agreement (which incorporated the clause regarding non litigation).

If neither of you gave a thought to circumstances in which legal action might have been applicable, you could perhaps attempt to sue her, but might be better settling for two shots next Saturday-though I'd suggest you get it in writing this time.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 18:00:15
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 18 2008, 04:15 PM) [snapback]421494[/snapback]
He's not attention seeking at all is he rolleyes.gif

Correct sweetheart-just an old soul who prefers sharing his vast knowledge and wisdom-and the odd bit of friendly banter with his fellow Ton supporters-most of whom DO have a sense of humour- to vegetating in front of the telly, or spending the day and much money in the pub.

You've never quite got over the couple of pastings I gave you-I do understand that-but please try.

We could have such a lovely friendship-really we could-we have a lot in common you know-what with me having been brought up in Kilmacolm where I was Dux of the local primary, (how did you fare at school my angel), and our mutual knowledge of the Shawlands area.

Good gracious, I could even have you up for a cuppa one day. I'm sure the Monkey and Fing would make you very welcome, and as the good lady would be out at work, we could become really friendly.

You're very welcome. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 18:08:41 You'll notice that it's our football afficionados and snobs who dislike the Deano- the empty Harrods bag carriers of Cappielow!

In terms of EFFECTIVENESS he's actually done pretty well relative to the number of hours he's got on the pitch.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 18:11:59
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 18 2008, 06:07 PM) [snapback]421560[/snapback]
Cute.

Would you like to join us young man. One lump or two, or shall I check in person?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 18:14:07
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 18 2008, 05:50 PM) [snapback]421548[/snapback]
i find it hard to comprehend how you can get any kicks out of being such a total fud. you put such effort into it and the mask never slips.

i conclude that you really are a total fud.

You DO have a fatal fascination for my posts which is immensely gratifying.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 18:18:20
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 18 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]421492[/snapback]
I don't believe in these polls in general, all they do is give an indication of how people will vote. I know it's all down to those who bother to vote on election day.
So keep yer blood pressure pills in the bottle. I'm just speculating that's all ! wink.gif

I notice how you back off immediately I mention Dr Shipman! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 18:22:10
QUOTE(Mick @ Mar 18 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]421501[/snapback]
For me, the best curry houses in Glasgow are as follows:

Kebabish (Victoria Rd)
The Village (Tradeston)

Both of these are v good, informal places to get great grub. I would recommend the Lamb Achari in both. They're also relatively inexpensive (The Village is v cheap).

For something a little bit more upmarket, you can't go wrong with Mother India (Westminster Terrace, I think). It's a little bit cramped, but the food is superb. The Turban in Giffnock gets an excellent reputation but I've never been.

Closer to home, the Taj in Gourock is good but I personally prefer Priya Palace.

That's my local-I recommend a try. it's quite hard to find a BAD curry house in Glasgow. I've only been in the 'Taj' once and was not impressed that much TBH-not bad, but nothing special.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 18:30:42
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Mar 18 2008, 06:09 PM) [snapback]421563[/snapback]
I met him to, that oak desk in the office highly polished lol. Its like an alladins den in there! Wouldnt part with any sweeties tho!

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mortonjag 2008-03-18 18:35:09
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 18 2008, 06:24 PM) [snapback]421581[/snapback]
Of course I would like to join you, although please stay away from my bollocks this time.

Then I shall-we'll have to await confirmation from Mr Morecambe that he'll be coming too!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 18:42:33
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 18 2008, 06:19 PM) [snapback]421575[/snapback]
considering you've polluted this board with your repellent, pompous pish well over a hundred times in the last 24 hours - almost 20% of the total number of posts - it would be pretty f***ing hard to miss you.

and i'll take that as an admission that you get your kicks from ruining this board.

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Still running scared of pms from other wee lassies you've offended?

Neighbours stopped shagging yet?

Try to ignore my posts if they upset you-you're obviously far too sensitive.

I find your posts singularly self gratifying and dismissive Narcissus, but I'd never dream of suggesting that you 'ruin the board'.

Live and let live, and when all else fails, go and read one of those novels you keep boring me bumming on about. Escapism is good for those who find life turbulent. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 18:43:29
QUOTE(Putonmatea @ Mar 18 2008, 06:36 PM) [snapback]421610[/snapback]
Le Chien Manquee,

For what its worth I totally and wholeheartedly agree. Well said indeed! The guy (MJ) is clearly a complete and utter fud.
I can`t actually believe he is as big a walluper as he quite clearly is.
He seems to have to get the last word in all the time no matter what.
Totally ridiculous and a waste of space and everyones time.

MJ PLEASE SHUT UP AND ACT YOUR OWN AGE.

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mortonjag 2008-03-18 18:47:01
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Mar 18 2008, 06:44 PM) [snapback]421626[/snapback]
(bread) crumbs...hes r(eel)ay dead...ah well his (fish) tea was oot for a long time...hes had his chips

Hope he wasn't battered to death
mortonjag 2008-03-18 18:52:44
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 18 2008, 06:48 PM) [snapback]421634[/snapback]
Maybe he finds it more polite to answer everyone individualy! smile.gif Either that or it's to increase his sperm count! smile.gif

What would I want to do that for Mr Deegan?

I've asked the Dong to spell out how to reply to multiple posts, and he's not come back yet. FFS many a man of my age can't even use a computer.

I do think that on many occasions it IS more polite to reply individually, mind you.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 18:55:44
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 18 2008, 06:49 PM) [snapback]421635[/snapback]
Did the Flintstones cartoon programme from years ago not have the words "lets have a gay old time" in it's theme tune ? unsure.gif






Flintstones, meet the Flintstones
They're the modern stone-age family
From the town of Bedrock
They're a page right out of history

Let's ride with the family down the street
Through the courtesy of Fred's two feet
When you're with the Flintstones
Have a yabbadabbadoo time, a dabbadoo time
We'll have a gay old time

Someday, maybe Fred will win the fight
Then that cat will stay out for the night
When you're with the Flintstones
Have a yabbadabbadoo time, a dabbadoo time
We'll have a gay old time

We'll have a gay old time
mortonjag 2008-03-18 18:57:54
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 18 2008, 06:55 PM) [snapback]421650[/snapback]
what a total arse. for years now every single thread on this board has had your pish splattered all over it. if you think it's just me who thinks you are a tedious old c***, you're mistaken. this board has become a showpiece for your ego, and even though you claim regularly that it's an alter ego, it's still just amounts to a pile of irritating pish. and it's not even funny - ever. although i suspect you know that.

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mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:00:07
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 18 2008, 06:57 PM) [snapback]421652[/snapback]
Cheers Doc, you beat me to it tongue.gif

Nae bother Spurtle-I'm just sadder, older, and better at spoiling threads for self indulgent little prats with no respect for their elders and betters! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:05:52
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 18 2008, 07:01 PM) [snapback]421660[/snapback]
Don't read it then. blink.gif

It takes a while for things to dawn on him-not that he's daft-far from it-just that he's so far up his own arse that he can't bear the thought of anyone being better than him at anything.

Someone who's clearly better than him at everything, and immensely modest with it, makes him a confused little boy. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:08:40
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 18 2008, 06:55 PM) [snapback]421646[/snapback]
Obviously, I meant to say post count, not sperm count.

mortonjag, to reply to multiple posts:

Click 'quote', not 'reply' under every post you want to quote. Then click 'reply' down at the bottom of the page. wink.gif

So I click 'quote' for every post I want to reply to BEFORE I do anything else.

I then scroll down to the very bottom of the page and click reply.

Will each quote then come up separately, allowing me to reply individually?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:18:19
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 18 2008, 07:05 PM) [snapback]421667[/snapback]
Dean Keenan is a poor footballer and no amount of pathetic jibes about empty Harrods bag carriers is going to change that. He runs about like a headless chicken flying into tackles. As SALC said you could pick someone out from the Cowshed and they would run about flying into tackles.

We have failings in midfield but, for me, Dean Keenan is certainly not the answer.

I'm not sure that poking fun is necessarily indulging in 'pathetic jibes'-it does seem to have hit a raw nerve mind you!

The fact is Jonaton that in terms of effectiveness our so called 'better' footballers have GROSSLY flattered to deceive over the past two or three seasons, and the standard of football we play is pretty poor anyway.

I don't think Deano is Serie A material, but he's put in several decent shifts for the Ton, and anybody who simply dismisses him as useless is IMHO concentrating totally on his bad points.

Perhaps the fact that he DOESN'T hide makes them more obvious, but if many of the other squad members demonstrated half the commitment he does, we'd not be in our current sorry predicament.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:20:29
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 18 2008, 07:10 PM) [snapback]421674[/snapback]
i was just admiring your new petard, grasshopper - you clearly haven't got the hang of it yet biggrin.gif

Then why didn't you say so?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:21:03
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 18 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]421677[/snapback]
They will come up in one post, you type between the quotes!

Here to help! wink.gif

TY!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:22:00 Does he think I am Vikington?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:25:08
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 18 2008, 07:19 PM) [snapback]421693[/snapback]
now that raised a smile. i don't believe it was deliberate, though.

anyway, i won't be replying to this thread again, it's just three pages of crap and deserves to pass off the front page asap. i'm sure you'll do your best to keep it here, but i won't be helping you.

the board was split in two because the pure football guys didn't like the off-topic stuff, i'm sure if any of them are still around they must be dying for a mentaljag board.

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Excellent.

mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:28:06
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 18 2008, 07:23 PM) [snapback]421701[/snapback]
Hey, come on! Remember what I taught you?

Aye Deego, but give me a chance-I was replying to one before I saw the next there. I promise to do better!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:30:16
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 18 2008, 07:17 PM) [snapback]421688[/snapback]
I think that's an excellent assessment of the situation with Iain Russell.

Pat Clarke has made the same jump and looks like he may be making an impact similar to the one Buchanan has made.

Do you think LEAFY is too lightweight?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:33:44
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 18 2008, 07:29 PM) [snapback]421716[/snapback]
Come on man!

I take a while to learn. I will try this new fangled technique in the morning. Usually there are about four or five abusive posts on at least one thread! People are just SO jealous, and it's extremely hurtful. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:41:40
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Mar 18 2008, 07:32 PM) [snapback]421722[/snapback]
As a striker, there are games where things just click for you and the game goes your way, in a half decent side you might get a game like that 1 in every 4. Its the ability to knuckle down and do your best to influence a game where things aren't going your way that marks you out as an above average striker. Russell hasn't really shown so far that he can do that, when the balls breaking for him he can look fairly decent, but a lot of the time so far games have passed him by, as someone said, without him really influencing it in anyway.

Agreed M4RKO, but I really can't see what you expect him to do if his fellow players are totally devoid of a clue as to how to play to his strengths.

The boy gets caught offside FAR too much, and it's NOT always his fault, and how often has he had the luxury of playing a twin striker role for 90 minutes.

It's always easy to home in on scapegoats when a squad is just not performing.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:42:57
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 18 2008, 07:36 PM) [snapback]421726[/snapback]
Your so funny, Russell is 5 foot 11 and according to GMFC - Chris Millar is 5 Foot 9 inches tall!!

Someones standing on the measuring tape!!!!!!

5 ft 11 - ha



...and 11 stones Santa!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:47:08
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 18 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]421723[/snapback]
i did, it just went over your head rolleyes.gif

I read what you said and am well aware of the definition and connotations of the word petard.

Nothing goes over my head Trumpet, be it petard, bunnet, or giraffes baws.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:50:13
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 18 2008, 07:46 PM) [snapback]421738[/snapback]
Yes.

If he is actually 5' 11" (5' 10" from what I can see) and 11 stones then he is even more guilty as he allows himself to be bullied off the ball too easily and doesn't put himself about enough considering his height and weight.

That does not make him any less heavy!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:51:43
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 18 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]421742[/snapback]
an eleven stone santa! defo a lightweight

Weatherstone must be about 6 foot 11 and 18 stone if Russel is 5ft 11

Well I suppose not everything on GMFC.net is accurate, but people are happy to quote anything in writing to suit their purposes!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:59:20
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 18 2008, 07:37 PM) [snapback]421727[/snapback]
The jibe in itself didn't hit a raw nerve, the obnoxious manner in which you deliver them does though.

I can see why people do like him as he puts in herculean amounts of effort but I don't think that's enough to merit a starting place.

I definitely wouldn't have Dean in ahead of Millar or Jenkins. I'm not a big McLaughlin fan but I still think he does a better job in there than Keenan would. I'd even think about putting Alex Walker in there ahead of him.

Hmm-don't you think that's slightly contradictory. I can assure you I neither intended my comment as a 'jibe' nor to be obnoxious.

I DO believe many people discredit Deano purely on his very evident bad points, while totally ignoring his UNDOUBTED value.

I suspect that those people are what I think of as football 'snobs'. I'm not even certain that football snobs are any less entitled to their opinions than the common 5/8ths, but in terms of the Morton of recent years, I'd suggest that snobbery is inappropriate.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 20:07:22
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Mar 18 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]421753[/snapback]
Ah f**k Sram.

That is like inviting an addict to a coke party. laugh.gif tongue.gif

You realise what you have done here, MJ will be at at 17000 posts by lunchtime tomorrow.

MJ, your turn now. laugh.gif

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Well it seems that the 'lawyer' has now climbed out of his irovy ivory tower, and is hiding round the corner with baited bated breath hoping that I'll fall for one of the most ridiculous propositions of all time.

'Anyway, I've had enough of this now' says all I need to hear.

mortonjag 2008-03-18 20:09:33
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Mar 18 2008, 08:03 PM) [snapback]421755[/snapback]
Someone found 50p for the meter ?

Pearce just re-discovered the switch when he heard the SPL's proposed fee.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 20:12:30
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 18 2008, 08:02 PM) [snapback]421754[/snapback]
Why is this even being discussed? It's blatantly obvious that he's not in the top 3 central midfielders at the club...

In fact Jenkins, Millar, Stevenson, McGuffie, McGregor, Walker, McLaughlin and you can include McAlister as he has played there a few times, are all far better options than Dean.

And I say that as someone who cringes every time I hear "Number 3 - Scott McLaughlin" read out.

On paper!


He's arguably a better left back than the lot of them.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 20:22:38
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 18 2008, 07:41 PM) [snapback]421730[/snapback]
You must love being bored

Depends who's doing the boring!

Do you think I gained my knowledge of DIY from being bored Santa. Remember I slipped off for a couple of months, and Mummy now has a lovely new kitchen-EVERYTHING-done by myself-which saved lots and lots of MUNNY!

I normally get an hour or so on my guitar during the day, and of course I complete the Herald cryptic crossword which sometimes uses up half an hour.

Please don't fall into the trap of imagining I'm weary-I'm retired remember-with lots of lovely time on my hands. I could do a daily diary for a week but I'm not sure that would go down too well!

Anyway-how's the project going? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-19 06:34:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 18 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]421777[/snapback]
Rubbish, mortonjag, Queen of the South signed Alibi first.

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Mr Chishom has an important cup tie soon-he and Mr Rae are doing extremely well with limited resources it seems.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 06:35:46
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 18 2008, 09:28 PM) [snapback]421831[/snapback]
I think you will find that it was you who quoted the figures! does that make you a sado statistician???

I don't believe weight to be a KPI for a striker!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 06:57:46
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 18 2008, 10:53 PM) [snapback]421875[/snapback]
Fair enough.

I think Dean's bad points far outweigh his good points. I'd be interested to know what you think Keenan's strengths are?

Using your description of those who don't like Keenan type players as snobs I've always thought Morton fans were inverted football snobs. Valuing hard work and graft over players with actual ability who try that little bit less when not in possession (Andy Ritchie being the exception rather than the rule). I thought Kevin Twaddle was brilliant but all I ever heard was older men moaning about how lazy he was.

I'd rather have a player who can actually play than a clogger who just runs about kicking people. What I do concede is that you have to have someone like that, particularly in a relegation battle. But I don't think Keenan is that guy. I think his tackles are rash and stupid rather than hard and well timed. The prime example was the free kick he gave away against Stirling Albion.

Let me draw an analogy JonaTon.

The much maligned Russian Lada, and the grossy overrated Italian Ferrari. If you're a car enthusiast you'll know exactly what I mean.

In purist terms the Ferrari leaves the Lada without a name-it is the epitome of engineering excellence with stunning design and unsurpassed performance. On song it is just breathtaking in every way. Unfortunately the Ferrari has a dark side. It's notoriously fussy and unreliable-just when you need it most-when the chips are down and you have to make that deadline, it's liable to 'stop playing' without warning.

The Lada is an ugly beast albeit sharing some of its genetics with the Ferrari-it doesn't look the part, it's noisy and unpretentious-frankly cheap and nasty-something any self respecting motorist wouldn't be seen dead in, but it generally keeps going, demands little, and will get you to your journey's end safely, if unspectacularly.

If you want to enjoy Ferrari, you go to the Grand Prix, but it's f*ck all use at the Stock Car racing.

The footballing Grand Prix is the World Cup. We're struggling at the bottom of the Scottish second division.

mortonjag 2008-03-19 07:03:03
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Mar 18 2008, 09:55 PM) [snapback]421847[/snapback]
Just to think, we could have been playing Aberdeen in the Semi's....



Sadly it doesn't work that way Iain, and sadly applying the same principle we could win automatic relegation! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-19 07:06:59
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 18 2008, 10:55 PM) [snapback]421876[/snapback]
My strife and familiars.

You get used to it after a while DE!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 07:23:58
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 18 2008, 09:59 PM) [snapback]421850[/snapback]
In the toilet - Walls are all cladded - original flooring is now complete, all drains and plumbing are in place for the sink, loo, shower and bath - we have an issue with the bath taps (it's a roll top and I would rather they were presented on the walll above the bath than on top of the bath)

Chimney was swept, how ever the lumb failed the smoke bomb test - needs copex and chimney pointed (!!! - one step forward and three back) - so fireplace not fitted today!

3 carpets fitted today in the upstairs bedrooms

Tomorrow I will be:

1. Laying the laminate in the bathroom
2. Fitting the loo
3. Fitting the sink

Along with an army of folks decending to deep clean the house and prepare for the move on Thursday

Within one hour of the skip arriving, it was full! and needs to be picked up tomorrow

If I knew how to post pictures on this site - I would share some with you!

Another day - another couple of grey hairs (and general stress levels reducing - this is more fun than working!)

Thanks for the interest



I'm getting all excited just reading this. I hope you're laying ceramic effect laminate and not wid --if the walls are all wid -or it will end up looking like a sauna!!!

If the bath is already pre-drilled for taps just buy blanks and run the pipes up behind a wee false panel made with your T & G offcuts.


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I need a kitchen fitted as well!!!!!!!!

Hmm-now I'm salivating!!!

QUOTE(M4RKO @ Mar 18 2008, 11:09 PM) [snapback]421885[/snapback]
A couple of months to fit a kitchen??? Were you doing it in the dark?


I wasn't fitting a kitchen M4RKO. I took a large kitchen back to bare floor, walls and ceiling-stuck in new windows and doors, re-wired, and re-plumbed the lot (recessed spotlights etc) ceramic tiled the walls and floor, and then fitted the fully integrated kitchen (supplied by Howdens at Cappielow).

The whole job was done for less than £6000, and I reckon the value of the property has now increased by at least £20,000 which makes my work worth £140,000 p.a.

That's not bad for a sad slevering old c*nt who spends all day spouting into a footie forum and catheter bag-eh! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-19 07:27:10
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 18 2008, 11:21 PM) [snapback]421892[/snapback]
The dull ache in my lower gut is starting already - f*** me that was hot.

Delhi belly strikes again!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 07:29:54
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 19 2008, 12:13 AM) [snapback]421908[/snapback]
The Poll Tax on Wheels.

This will be the straw which will break the camels back as far as New Labour is concerned.

In terms of the private motorist I very much doubt it-it IS really just a secondary income tax.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 07:31:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 19 2008, 12:14 AM) [snapback]421909[/snapback]
Not that there is anything wrong with that.

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You think it's OK for real live pufes to use our forum?

What about the les beans?
mortonjag 2008-03-19 07:36:41 Music appreciation should be, like all forms of art appreciation, in the senses of the recipient.

We are all, to a greater or lesser degree pre-conditioned by the media and peer pressure.

In absolute terms I think the quality of modern 'pop' music is extremely poor when compared to the 60's and 70's.

That is my considered and unbiased opinion FACT.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 07:45:13 mortonjag 2008-03-19 08:39:58
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 19 2008, 08:06 AM) [snapback]421934[/snapback]
The only way Salmond would have a limited future is if someone takes him out in a JFK type of way.

And let's face it, I wouldn't put that past the brits either ohmy.gif

There again Spurtle-you must remember that vaulting ambition that o'er leaps itself-time for you to acknowledge the large number of SNP sympathisers including myself who are becoming increasingly disappointed by Bawheid's self indulgent ego trip.

Yet another report in today's Herald exposes the depths of complicity plumbed by our First Minister in the Trump affair.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 08:43:51
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 19 2008, 08:02 AM) [snapback]421933[/snapback]
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Not often I get a laugh this time of the morning !

Scottish nationalism, I'll give you that one. Homo's ?? I didn't start the thread.I don't have a problem with them, although I don't think it's quite natural for same sex relationship's. Cliff Richard.......well you have all his album's not me tongue.gif

Rampant homophobia!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 08:46:55
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Mar 19 2008, 08:15 AM) [snapback]421935[/snapback]
Not yet.... smile.gif

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TY and I won't even bother to edit it-I guess that just about sums up how I feel right now!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 08:48:44
QUOTE(The Shuffler @ Mar 19 2008, 08:15 AM) [snapback]421936[/snapback]
Who's all going & what questions (if any ) will you be asking, or would like to hear asked .

I believe everybody's going except me!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 09:03:42
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 19 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]421946[/snapback]
Why would they be a fridges favourite? They don't go in the fridge huh.gif

What don't go in a fridge?
mortonjag 2008-03-19 09:34:10
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 19 2008, 09:25 AM) [snapback]421959[/snapback]
Washing my hair? unsure.gif

Missus is not home from work untill 8.10pm, then is a 15 -20 minute drive from Gourock to Port Glasgow. Unless I get a baby sitter It wouldn't be worth the bother.

s***EBAG
mortonjag 2008-03-19 09:44:34
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 19 2008, 09:22 AM) [snapback]421957[/snapback]
Sugerpuffs!

Go on....make in into a gay thing, I'm sure that's what you have planned rolleyes.gif

Why am I consistently accused of hidden agendas?

I asked a simple question, and get abuse as usual.

Sugar puffs could go into my fridge no bother-singly-in a bowl with or without milk, or in the packet-but I avoid tooth rotting pap in favour of home made porridge.

Half a mug of oatmeal (not porridge oats) soaked overnight in two and a half mugs of (preferably filtered) water, and heated in the microwave on full power, whisking vigorously every so often till it boils, makes you a big hearty bowl, and costs pennies.

It will also make you grow up into a big strong boy.

Sugar puffs are for fairies.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 09:47:27
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 19 2008, 09:38 AM) [snapback]421964[/snapback]
Get Mortonjag to do it, i hear he's free tonight.

Mortonjag is not allowed near children.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 09:48:31
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 19 2008, 09:41 AM) [snapback]421969[/snapback]
to be fair that other thread wasnt about questions that were going to be asked, it was about why MJ wasn't going? i'd still like to know what people are thinking of asking.

One thing i want to know about is if we're stil interested in Paul Mcgowan and if not, why not?

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mortonjag 2008-03-19 09:52:05
QUOTE(Yoda @ Mar 19 2008, 09:48 AM) [snapback]421973[/snapback]
Last night I was struggling to think what to have for "the tea" so on the way home I went into the corner shop thinking I would pick up some chicken or something, and there it was, sitting on a shelf, the wee can glistening in the reflected flourecent lighting.

Plumrose Bacon Grill, oh, fried egg, potato scone, beans, fried tomato, mushrooms and onion......mmmmmm

Then I looked at the can ... 28% fat but it is only once in a while and I did grill it. But it got me to wondering apart from waking up the morning after the night before knowing that you were drunk enough to have eaten a donner - what other food gets your tastebuds going when you know it shouldn't?

My most disgusting fad is raw black pudding. When I was a kid, if I got a puddin' supper as a treat I used to keep half the puddin' overnight and eat it cold. I know it's full of blood and grease and muck but I love it uncooked and cold.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 09:57:57
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 19 2008, 09:53 AM) [snapback]421977[/snapback]
A large number of sympathisers who are becoming increasingly disapointed ?? blink.gif

Where is the evidence of this ? Salmond is recording the highest personal poll ratings ever. And the SNP have increased their popularity ratings amongst the voters for both Westminster and Holyrood elections !

Perhaps you are getting mixed up. Wendy (the one who wears the dress) is the one accepting illegal donations,fiddling the expences and is unpopular even within her own party. ohmy.gif

I don't do 'mixed up' Spurtle-I'm very well aware that Bendy wears the dress, just as Moira wears the troosers.

I'm not interested in spurious polls-I listen to people myself, and it's evident that many people who would quite like an independent Scotland are becoming disenchanted-most of my friends and associates are thinking people mind you, so it's perfectly possible I'm not getting the feelings of the great unwashed.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 10:08:21
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 19 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]421975[/snapback]
Correct. tongue.gif

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How many do you predict will attend-will Rae do a Mileson Hampden act, and bus in fifty or sixty tame Shooglyphiles for Toby to assault?


Port ton---'Mr Rae, can you tell me if you're still interested in young Paul, and if not why not?'

Rae-scratching head and peering down through spectacles in a disapproving manner--'Young man, this is a Greenock Morton Football Club Rally-not a Papal convention-anyway-was he not the last one---next please'
mortonjag 2008-03-19 10:11:41
QUOTE(Yoda @ Mar 19 2008, 10:06 AM) [snapback]421979[/snapback]
ordinary black pudding is brilliant in a salad. I discovered this one Bank Holiday weekend when I was skint. There was pudding left over from the Sunday breakie (I used to be quite a party animal and would regularly have about 10 pals staying over all demanding fed on the Sunday morning) the only thing left from the help yersel breakfast was pudding, the pancakes, bacon, sausages and dumpling had all been scoffed and there was nothing else in the house to eat except salad and black pudding. Quite tasty, but I was probably just starving!

Oh for the days when the weekend started on a Thursday and ended on a Tuesday. The only night in was a Wednesday. Christ that was about 20 years ago sad.gif i feel old and even more skint than the black pudding salad days....

Never mind Yoda-we still have the Ton to cheer us up!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 10:17:35
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 19 2008, 10:15 AM) [snapback]421982[/snapback]
To even include the name of Willie McRae in the same breath as Alex The Salmon is unforgiveable.

Willie McRae was what the SNP used to stand for - clear political strategy, high morales, high ethics and a desire to
pull the lions tail at every turn. A man of courage, a man of honour, a man of principle - principles and honours he would never change nor sell nor deny.

Would that the SNP had a few like him today. Willie's murder was one of the lowest points in the history of the Thatcher governent and demonstrated the lengths the secret service would go to - as poor old Hilda found out also.

Willie McRae deserves his name to be mentioned with the better Scottish politicians, and indeed patriots of recent times. Please don't tarnish it by ever inlcuding it with the likes of the current incumbent leader of the SNP - a shallow, self serving and spineless excuse of a man. No doubt he will be very successful - and more power to him - but never confuse good timing with a good man.

In time the truth will out about Willie, and when it does his "suicide" will be seen for what we all know it was - a state sponsored execution. Then again, they were afraid of Willie. Whereas they don't care less about the other lad. He's no threat to anything they need to get done - indeed he has aligned his policies on the right of the centre line. Thatcher's Tories - new Labour - New SNP - The creatures outside looked from pig to man,
and from man to pig, and from pig to man again - but already it was impossible to say which was which.

Codlamh Samh Willie.

TonInDublin

Did he jump or was he pushed?

Or did he just tumble off the bandwagon? mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-19 10:32:57
KORO

Shrinking penis disease
The mysteries of koro puzzle doctors, but dukun come to the rescue


Modern psychiatric texts list koro as the name of a condition in which the patient believes his penis is shrinking and that when it disappears he will die. The first cases were described in Indonesia between 1895 and 1935 but no new reports have appeared since then. If we relied on the Indonesian newspapers and medical journals we would think that the shrinking penis disease has disappeared. A trip to a dukun proves otherwise.


Koro’ is a Makassarese and Buginese word meaning wrinkled or shrunk (kerut in Indonesian). The word was adopted as a euphemism by the colonial doctors who first documented it. Today, however, even native speakers of those languages do not know what it refers to. It is necessary to specify koro’ laso (shrunken penis) so that people will understand what is intended.

Once you know the correct terminology, it is still possible to find cases of the shrinking penis disease in several places in Indonesia. It occurs in South Sulawesi and in Flores, where it is known in the Ende language as mbaze. On the island of Sumba it is known as hidu tama (‘going inside’ disease) or hei lulu (‘everything pulled up’). In Chinese communities it is known as suo yang in Mandarin, or suk yeong in Cantonese.


I recently paid a visit to Hina Panjarra, a traditional healer or dukun, who has a successful penis-rescue practice on the outskirts of Waingapu in East Sumba. His patients come from all walks of life, and either send a car to pick him up or arrive with great urgency at his house. It is always an emergency and patients present in a panicky state the shrunken penis either tied with a string, or grasped firmly by the patient or one of his friends, so as to prevent it from disappearing into the body, and thus causing his death.

Hina stocks a special massage oil prepared from roots and barks he collects from the forest according to a recipe passed down from his ancestors. He vigorously rubs the oil into the legs and the abdomen of his patient, takes a swig of the oil himself to show that it is innocuous, and gives him a small bottle to take home. His treatment is always effective and the penis returns to its normal state within 15 minutes to half an hour. If the condition occurs again the patient may apply the oil themselves directly to the afflicted part. The dukun himself avoids massaging the penis but the patient is encouraged to do so.


The oil is not a general tonic, Hina explains, and should not be used for ordinary fevers and sicknesses, but it is quite good as a kebal (immunity) medicine to strengthen the body against blows and bullets. A number of the local hoods and policemen can be found among Hina’s customers. Although it is basically a massage oil, small amounts can be taken orally as well. It also contains a clove of garlic and other kitchen herbs which make it more palatable. When the oil runs low ordinary coconut oil may be added and the bottle put aside for the ingredients to leach into the oil. Customers may also drop by and pick up a new bottle any time. Hina accepts whatever the customer chooses to pay. Like many traditional healers, he presents himself as a simple man and claims no credit for himself. He cannot explain either the cause of the illness or how the medicine works. Any potency the oil may have is due to the gods, he says.


While medical opinion is that the penis does not shrink and koro is a psychiatric disorder, traditional healers like Hina Panjarra report that they find the penis in a shrunken condition and restore it to normal. Villagers have observed that the penises of men who collapse and die suddenly are often found on closer examination to be in a shrunken state. ‘Definitely smaller than normal’, they say. Not surprisingly patients who fear this might be happening to them prefer to go directly to the dukun with the potent time-honoured cure rather than waste time with the sceptical doctor — who usually has fixed hours of practice and a crowded waiting room.

The two healing traditions are at cross-purposes here. While doctors are still puzzling about this strange condition, dukun continue to administer vital first aid. The explanation for the condition, whether it be physiological or psychological, is not important for the patient. For him, only the cure matter
mortonjag 2008-03-19 10:35:44
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 19 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]421985[/snapback]
So in other words you don't have any evidence to back your feeble claims whatsoever ?

Polls are not an exact science that's for sure, but they do give an indication of how the people think.

Salmond is not just ahead in the polls. He is miles ahead !

Wrong again ? Earnie boy laugh.gif

As I said before Spurtle, Hitler was a popular chappie with the unthinking too!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 10:40:58
QUOTE(BlueTube @ Mar 19 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]421991[/snapback]
I want to know what the correct story is with Chris Millar. Also why the feck was the chairman in the dressing room waving about a newspaper report when the manager was in the middle of his team talk.

That's a very serious allegation which I believe he may deny.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 10:42:29
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 19 2008, 10:40 AM) [snapback]421993[/snapback]
Bringing Nazi's and Hitler into the argument ?? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif We had a thread about that !

I didn't mention Nazis.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 10:43:28
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 19 2008, 10:41 AM) [snapback]421996[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-03-19 11:41:05
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 19 2008, 11:05 AM) [snapback]422007[/snapback]
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Good grief man have some dignity. You sound about 13 years old.

Come on - still bathing in self adulation over primary 7 achievements!! laugh.gif

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That's a little better-soon I'll have you singing the song!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 11:49:56
QUOTE(centralTON @ Mar 19 2008, 10:53 AM) [snapback]422002[/snapback]
Mother India is fab as is Mother India Cafe across the road from Kelvingrove Art Gallery. Indian style tapas.
The Ashoka, Ashton Lane does a great lunch for £ 4.95 during the week and £ 6.95 at weekends. Had lunch there before the Partick game in December.

Glasgow thoroughly deserves its title of 'curry Capital of Europe'. The competition in the city is so fierce that second rate establishments can't make it.

I sometimes eat out in Dundee, and it's damned hard to find an 'Indian' let alone a good one, though I've been advised to try Broughty Ferry next time. Maybe I should 'phone JM for advice!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 11:53:28
QUOTE(Mr H Palms @ Mar 19 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]422008[/snapback]
The seafaring paedophile has gone to Davy Jone's locker

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I could NEVER watch the ads without thinking he was a 'stoat the ba' !!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 11:54:52
QUOTE(Mr H Palms @ Mar 19 2008, 11:21 AM) [snapback]422009[/snapback]
aye it was him. "even if i have to chain myself to the front of the carpark they wont be building there" laugh.gif

Oh aye that will defo stop them. Need to come up with something better than that, try super glue ya helmet

What's with the avatar, and shouldn't it be H E Palms? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-19 11:57:59
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 19 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]422005[/snapback]
This started off as a thread where MJ quite rightly points out that Salmond, yet again, has dialled the wrong number. If you want to fix poverty or bring people into more stable environments, throwing money at the problem has proven (time and time again) to make a bad situation worse.

You then made the quite "adventurous" statement that Salmond's future could only be stopped by a JFK like intervention, and you wouldn't put that past "the Brits".

Alibi then stated that was similar to the way that Willie was killed.

I agree. But lets never mix the two up or even compare them in the same thread. The British government and powers at be have nothing to worry about from the Salmon - like Wendy if they really want something pushed through then they'll buy his principles - Trump being a good example of how little he cares about doing the right thing. Alexander is useless, Salmond is less useless. Truly the evil of two lessers.

So my caution is not to even consider a comparison between Willie and The Fish.
An opportunity to attack Salmon ? Well, it wasn't really but I'll take it when I get it.

More an opportunity to remember a truly great Scots man and politician.

TonInDublin

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mortonjag 2008-03-19 11:59:11
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 19 2008, 11:25 AM) [snapback]422010[/snapback]
Sorry for bringing the Nazi's into equation when you mentioned Hitler....silly me blink.gif

Apology accepted-I was merely alluding to the ease with which the great unwashed can be conned.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 12:01:42
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Mar 19 2008, 11:54 AM) [snapback]422015[/snapback]
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Big strong boys do nothing for me Thrax-you should know that you wimp! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-19 12:08:53
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 19 2008, 11:28 AM) [snapback]422011[/snapback]
To change the subject, I see Syphilis is on the rise again. That's a nasty one that !

I'm sure our resident Doc could give you the nasty details on that one.

AHA-Spurtle-diseases of the Willie. Syphilis was traditionally the nastiest of all, and in its tertiary stages was to blame for the dementia of many Kings of England.

That will no doubt make you a happy boy.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 12:11:06
QUOTE(Mr H Palms @ Mar 19 2008, 12:04 PM) [snapback]422021[/snapback]
c,mon jag its kylies famous hotpants.

Why should it be H E Palms??

I thought they were hot pants, but didn't recognise the owner!

Itchy palms = H E Palms. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-19 12:14:10
QUOTE(Lancashire Hot Pot @ Mar 19 2008, 12:11 PM) [snapback]422023[/snapback]

Time is not on our side though!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 12:15:38
QUOTE(Mr H Palms @ Mar 19 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]422026[/snapback]
The H is for Hairy......

Ah-the monkey is highly impressed!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 12:21:10
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 19 2008, 12:03 PM) [snapback]422020[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-03-19 13:00:39
QUOTE(Malt @ Mar 19 2008, 12:29 PM) [snapback]422036[/snapback]
I would like to know how the Chairman rates this Season and if he is of the opinion he took to long to sack Jim McInally when we could have appointed Davie Irons during the transfer window. This would have given Davie the oportunity to sign players.

Aslo, how would the Chairman assess his 6/7 years in charge. If we are relegated this season that will be the third time we have been relegated under Douglas Rae Leadership.

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mortonjag 2008-03-19 13:02:36
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Mar 19 2008, 12:33 PM) [snapback]422038[/snapback]
wink.gif uch mortonjag, yer a wee sweetheart...

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mortonjag 2008-03-19 13:04:40
QUOTE(BlueTube @ Mar 19 2008, 12:34 PM) [snapback]422039[/snapback]
That's because Weegie is missing.

Weegie's funny but Spurtle's hilarious.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 13:07:19
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 19 2008, 12:56 PM) [snapback]422041[/snapback]
For those in favour of traction control etc., surely you can see that F1 had become a boring procession of fancy cars that was won or lost on tactics? That isn't racing, that's a technology showcase.

I watched the race on Sunday purely because there was nothing else on and was surprised to find that I actually enjoyed it. I'll be tuning in to the next race.

Hamilton is good.

BTW has your Delhi belly developed into Madras ass?
mortonjag 2008-03-19 16:23:57
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 19 2008, 01:37 PM) [snapback]422060[/snapback]
you do know dux at primary school means f*** all? laugh.gif

did you go to Kilmacolm Primary or St Columbus? i spent most of my childhood in Kilmacolm Primary befriending such people as Bianca and Mason Gascgoine tongue.gif thats my claim to fame.
Edit to add : i got a star pupil award at boglestone in primary 7 for always smiling.......get it roon ye!

When I was a child In Kilmacolm 'Dux' of the local Primary (NOT St Columba's which was for rich men's daft daughters-or its little boy equivalent Dardenne)-was worthwhile.

Also note that such worthy personages as Jim Mather and Annabel Goldie were there of my vintage, but weren't that bright TBH.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 16:28:27
QUOTE(Toby @ Mar 19 2008, 03:06 PM) [snapback]422077[/snapback]
Just typed up a couple of questions to ask tonight although I don't expect to be allowed entry tbh.

Is it DEFINITELY on Toby.

I'm frankly amazed at the number of folk who have desperately important questions to ask yet seem to have desperately unimportant previous engagements.

I just decided that it's a waste of time but then I'm just a s***ebag!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 17:03:26
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 19 2008, 05:00 PM) [snapback]422116[/snapback]
Playing 5 a sides tonight otherwise I would have been in attendance.

As above, if anyone would be as kind as to take some quick minutes down for us non-attenders it would be much appreciated.

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mortonjag 2008-03-19 17:06:56
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 19 2008, 04:43 PM) [snapback]422115[/snapback]
Interesting analogy. Where we differ then, is that I don't even think Keenan's good enough for the Stock Car racing.

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I know, and a seasoned old banger I disagree with you!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 17:08:19
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Mar 19 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]422063[/snapback]
"Last month wasn't too good for blow jobs either Ryan......"

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mortonjag 2008-03-19 17:26:11
QUOTE(Mr H Palms @ Mar 19 2008, 03:29 PM) [snapback]422087[/snapback]
There seems to be a lot of adverts on these dyas for "super absorbant" towels for women with "sensitive bladders".
We have Tena-Lady, whose name annoys me. Listen up, women, if you have piss dribbling down your thighs, you are no lady.
And now I see Always have gotten in on the act.

My question is this - have women always been designed so poorly or is this a recent phenomenon?
I did read a thing in the paper a while back that said that a great many silly bints do that "hover" thing when using a public toilet. Basically they have misplaced notions about the cleanliness of their own fat arses, and think that they are above polluting them by actually resting them on the seat. However, hovering is bad for the Fanny Muscles, as not all the piss is evacuated, and over time the minge brackets loosen, and they suffer periodical pee dribblidge.

The other main cause of the problem is being too damn lazy to do mary excercises after squeezing out a bawling wean.

What really annoys me about these adverts is that they are seeking to legitimise adults pissing themselves! It's bad enough that we put up with them dribbling out iron-rich devil's treacle 5 days a month, but piss?
If I ever bed someone that I discover to be wearing a sodden piss-rag, I shall shove it in their mouth and hold their nose till they swallow.
And that's being kind.
Any women out there care to comment.

Your imagination is admirable young man, even if your accuracy is in question. The truth is that far and away the most common cause of female incontinence is uterine prolapse, and the uterus resides in a higher place than the minge or even the Fanny.

It's also a fact that incontinence is more common in multiparous women-a cruel punishment for doing work which men gladly shun.

Anyway- urine is a pure clear sterile substance when freshly passed, and may be drunk with impunity.

I'm not quite so sure about eating keech mind you.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 17:30:57
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 19 2008, 05:13 PM) [snapback]422127[/snapback]
So that's why you never followed my into bed after the Ceilidh! I left the opportunity open for you but you preferred the couch with Mick sad.gif

Has thrax been cheating on me?
mortonjag 2008-03-19 17:37:44
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 19 2008, 05:22 PM) [snapback]422133[/snapback]
Aye Ok. I was only at the kidding, apart from Cliff Richard that is.

Cliff was a good singer though I'm told he's a pufe.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 17:40:03
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 19 2008, 05:32 PM) [snapback]422138[/snapback]
Why? A billion flies can't be wrong!

You've been reading Spurtle's polls.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 17:43:01
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 19 2008, 05:11 PM) [snapback]422125[/snapback]
Wont be there simply as these things don't entertain me in the slightest, never have.

Never seen the point, I think it's more just to keep fans happy, I don't see them acting much on anything that will be said.

s***ebag
mortonjag 2008-03-19 17:43:32
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 19 2008, 05:14 PM) [snapback]422130[/snapback]
turns out i cant find anyone to go with after my mates pulling out so i wont be going either. if the one man and his dog who do go could take notes and ask every decent question then i'd be eternally grateful. smile.gif

s***ebag
mortonjag 2008-03-19 17:48:04
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 19 2008, 05:14 PM) [snapback]422129[/snapback]
I will be going , will try to take some notes , so no big words , or I'll simply edit them from my notes biggrin.gif





At the toon hall door stands a lonely steward.


Chris-this is Toby



Toby-this is Chris


Gentlemen, thank you SO much for making the effort-as you know Mr Rae had to cancel at the VERY LAST MINUTE on information from his spies for family reasons, but he has asked me to give a free Fudgy Wudgy to you all both.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 17:53:29
QUOTE(Mr H Palms @ Mar 19 2008, 05:41 PM) [snapback]422142[/snapback]
Yes i let my imagination run wild a bit al give you that, but its the thought that counts, i knew most of it was pure bulls*** I just got carried away, i should have known the resident doc would have put me right.
Anyway the real reason for my rant was, i was handed a shopping list this afternoon from the missus and while wandering round tescos in a daze i noticed the words TENA LADY on the shopping list and after a slagging match with her i came on here and typed a lot of pish.......

TENA LADY...shopping list!!!

ANDY LATE she writes her diary in code son-yer being two timed!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 17:57:12
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 19 2008, 05:42 PM) [snapback]422143[/snapback]
so did we. sad.gif to games like Queens Park etc, now we take 600 to the league leaders in the first.

crowds are falling all around scotland, i blame the extortionate prices these days. ( he says as he pays £4 into cappielow every 2nd week)

Don't worry I'm sure Shoogly has a master plan which will see Cappielow bursting at the seams next season-or wait was it somebody else who wanted to blow it up and redevelop?
mortonjag 2008-03-19 17:58:38
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 19 2008, 05:46 PM) [snapback]422148[/snapback]
Totally, as I have sat on this board for the past year moaning about one specific aspect of the club I am not happy about and have decided not to go.
....oh wait rolleyes.gif

s***ebag
mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:04:40 Rae and entourage to outnumber fans--2-1


Toby to get frustrated as Shoogly loses his hearing


Andy Bryan to smile all night


One faded strip to be sold to a blind old lady who's been saving up all season for her grandson's birthday present.

A Tilly junior reporters wee brother's mate to be taking notes

Atmosphere to be almost as dead as the Cowshed at 4-30 on a Saturday


etc.



mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:09:41
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Mar 19 2008, 06:03 PM) [snapback]422161[/snapback]
Also, this guy Roddy Collins was mentioned at the height of the Carlisle United fiasco years ago when Michael Knighton was in charge, as was Brookes Mileson.

There was also a link with Clydebank and if I remember correctly a proposed move to Dublin (City).

Nothing seems to change.

Is he no deid, or was that Miles Brookson?
mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:11:17
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 19 2008, 06:08 PM) [snapback]422166[/snapback]
it wont be Gretna players, they wouldnt need to go on trial as our managers know exactly how good they are.

were!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:14:00 Fort M Fudge Packers.....Blew Saturday.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:15:07
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 19 2008, 06:12 PM) [snapback]422170[/snapback]
they're not dead.

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mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:19:08
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 19 2008, 06:15 PM) [snapback]422175[/snapback]
Mortonjag not to turn up wink.gif


Wouldn't you be surprised if he DID!

Just when it's least expected, and Toby's been kidnapped on the way from the station, and Rae thinks he's mastered the season's coup, this wee old lady pops up from nowhere and-well you can script the rest.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:20:46
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 19 2008, 06:17 PM) [snapback]422177[/snapback]
you changed it to past tense as if they were dead. He left the club 2 months ago, the players arent going to have got any worse or better in that time.

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sez who?
mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:25:15
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 19 2008, 06:16 PM) [snapback]422176[/snapback]
You say that as if there's something wrong with it. blink.gif

We could have a pufe list but people would just spoil it by telling lies I'd guess

We could even have an SNP pufe list
mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:29:49
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 19 2008, 06:28 PM) [snapback]422189[/snapback]
My, how the spelling has gone downhill amongst the youth these days. rolleyes.gif tongue.gif

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ahl yoof ye
mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:32:11
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 19 2008, 06:30 PM) [snapback]422191[/snapback]
I'll let someone else do that, theirs would be much funnier.

I just realised that your skettleon is Shoogly at tonight's fiasco.


PERFECT!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:35:01
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 19 2008, 06:33 PM) [snapback]422195[/snapback]
Too much gin, methinks.

Switch to soft drinks-they're cheaper and better for you.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:37:01
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 19 2008, 06:32 PM) [snapback]422192[/snapback]
Why do we need such a list?

I'm not sure that we do-it was merely a suggestion to please Spurtle! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:40:30
QUOTE(Patg @ Mar 19 2008, 06:33 PM) [snapback]422196[/snapback]
All mouth on your keyboard and an opportunity to speak your mind to "Shoogly" and you dont bother your arse .
Scott G

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Better late than never.


Will you be going?

On Wednesday 19th March, we have arranged an evening in the Port Glasgow Town Hall to allow supporters to meet the new management team of David Irons and Derek Collins.

Doors open at 6.30pm, and there will be a "Q & A" session at 7.30pm, when a panel including David, Derek and the Chairman will be available to answer your questions.

A selection of Morton merchandise will also be on sale on the night, and our thanks go to Re/Max Homefinders Greenock for sponsoring the evening.

Guess that'll be a 'NO'.


Shame on you-you spend the whole year up the man's arse, and when the golden opportunity arises for you to show your support in person you're attacking innocent old men.


s***ebag!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:41:52
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 19 2008, 06:38 PM) [snapback]422201[/snapback]
I'll bear that in mind.

Just DO it!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:45:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 19 2008, 06:43 PM) [snapback]422206[/snapback]
Not very wise advise from Doc: surely water would be better than the fizzed syrup?
Strike him off!

Water is THE soft drink par excellence!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:50:02
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 19 2008, 06:46 PM) [snapback]422210[/snapback]
Methinks you should still bear this in mind. unsure.gif

Methinks youthinks funny.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:51:57
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Mar 19 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]422205[/snapback]
nothing happened sad.gif i promise...

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I don't know what to believe-I mean MICK!!!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:53:39
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 19 2008, 06:52 PM) [snapback]422217[/snapback]
I'm not saying anyone who is gay should come onto the forum and say that they are. It's their private business.

I'm just saying there are gay's on here but they probably won't openly admit that they are.

How confident are you in that statement bannock baws?
mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:59:52
QUOTE(Patg @ Mar 19 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]422214[/snapback]
Im actually just leaving now after travelling down from Edinburgh today

Oh you look a bit silly now then

Scott

You've travelled all the way from Edinburgh just to listen to that egocentric buffoon. That has to be VERY, VERY sad.

You'd be better off attending church on a Sunday. We all need to pray.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 19:00:55
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 19 2008, 06:53 PM) [snapback]422219[/snapback]
Methinks someone's in a cream puff. tongue.gif

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Don't be a silly Billy-I take nothing to do with pufes.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 19:05:49
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 19 2008, 06:54 PM) [snapback]422220[/snapback]
Naw very rolleyes.gif

Surely you're a man for polls and statistics. What percentage of the male population is Gay?

I'm not sure myself, but I'd imagine we have quite a few real live pufes on this forum, and I don't see why they should have to expose their criminal behaviour sexual preferences, any more than I should disclose the number of warts on my Willie.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 19:08:49
QUOTE(Mr H Palms @ Mar 19 2008, 07:06 PM) [snapback]422227[/snapback]
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you could be on to something there doc. mibee thats why the minge bracket is so loose, its getting double dunted.....

What do you think of her doc, would you be right in there, shes s bit young for you but hey ho. wink.gif [attachment=3818:tena_lady.jpg]

Pole dancers never did much for me TBH but I do like her taste in baffies.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 19:12:11
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 19 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]422229[/snapback]
except when it comes to Mortonjag, although its more about him being a s***ebag than a bad supporter. tongue.gif
Edit to add : i just checked top posters today and im miles in 2nd place, but not even close to posting half as many times as Mortonjag, 101 posts ohmy.gif

im ashamed of myself for posting so much, god knows what i feel for him. laugh.gif

Mortonjag has many little helpers
mortonjag 2008-03-19 19:15:52
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ Mar 19 2008, 07:04 PM) [snapback]422224[/snapback]
The Port toon Hall is 2mins away from me, but i havent decided whether i can be bothered.

Had this have been 4 years or so ago , it would have been standing room only.

I fear it will be another sideshow of dancing around the real issues, but i may just go along anyway.

I do not however think it makes anyone a better supporter than another if they choose to go [or not].

Will make my mind up in 15mins. dry.gif

JB.

I believe Mr Rae will have his eyes well and truly opened tonight. He can come up with all sorts of excuses for dwindling crowds at Cappielow, but I'm sure he hasn't seen this coming!

Correct SHOOGLES? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-19 19:18:04
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 19 2008, 07:15 PM) [snapback]422237[/snapback]
ooooooh there is nothing like a little bit of a code to keep everyone on their toes smile.gif

clout on de erse?
mortonjag 2008-03-19 19:22:19
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ Mar 19 2008, 07:17 PM) [snapback]422238[/snapback]
One More

JB.

Site of tonight's Shoogly Show?
mortonjag 2008-03-19 19:24:23
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 19 2008, 07:20 PM) [snapback]422240[/snapback]
i've noticed the difference being when i dont get your jokes (a lot of the time) i just ignore them but when you dont get mine (a lot of the time) you do this face blink.gif

see i respect my elders smile.gif just like back in your day. tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-19 19:27:01 The rally opening has been delayed because of the large crowd queuing outside the town hall. Extra police have been drafted in, and the helicopter is on standby.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 19:33:20
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 19 2008, 07:25 PM) [snapback]422244[/snapback]
Naw , you are right. No one should have to do that at all.

But I would like to know the statistics about what percentage of males are indeed gay. Bet it's quite a low number ??

I guess it just depends whom you choose to believe!


Just one in 100 tells researchers: I'm gay

By Ben Leapman, Home Affairs Correspondent
Last Updated: 2:09am GMT 28/01/2008

Only one in 100 Britons would describe themselves as gay, according to the first government research into the nation's sexuality.

A further one in 100 would call themselves bisexual - but both groups are outnumbered by those who say they are unwilling to discuss their private life with Whitehall researchers.

In the survey, some people failed to understand the question and gave answers including "female", "normal", "not active" and "I am OK with my sexuality".

Some interviewers declined to ask the question for fear of giving offence.

The Office for National Statistics, which carried out the poll of 4,000 people, admitted that its results were "not a reliable estimate" of the homosexual population.

It said it would use the findings to develop a more accurate way of measuring.

Ministers intend to introduce an annual count once the survey method has been improved. They say they need the information to plan public service provision more accurately.

However, the question will not be asked in the next census in 2011, for fear that it might deter some people from returning their forms.

Statisticians spent two years considering the precise wording of the sexuality question, which was asked as part of a larger survey about lifestyle. In the end, they asked it in two different ways, each bringing different results.

Overall, 94.4 per cent of people surveyed described themselves as heterosexual or "straight"; one per cent said they were gay or lesbian; 0.9 per cent said they were bisexual; 0.6 per cent selected "other"; and three per cent ticked the box for "prefer not to say".

No one objected to being asked, although interviewers reported that some sniggered or giggled out of amusement or embarrassment.

However, in 15 per cent of cases the interviewer failed to put the question, making the results difficult to interpret.

Homosexual campaigners have claimed previously that as many as one in 10 of the population is gay. Ben Summerskill, the chief executive of the gay rights group Stonewall, believes the true figure to be about six per cent.

He backed the decision to carry out the survey, but said: "There are sensible reasons for putting this question, but if you don't explain the reasons on the doorstep then people will get anxious and wonder why the man from the ministry is asking about their private life."

In constructing the survey, statisticians grappled with the definition of homosexuality. Amanda Wilmot of the ONS said: "Human beings do not always conform to a common standard.

"Those who are abstaining, or ignoring desires, or indeed those who are undecided or not yet 'out', may not be able to classify themselves at all. One's desire, behaviour and self-identification might not always match.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 19:38:13
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 19 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]422247[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-03-19 19:45:08
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 19 2008, 07:39 PM) [snapback]422252[/snapback]
That's pretty low... ohmy.gif

As I say, it depends whom you choose to believe. It's still not a topic about which people feel very comfortable.

From my own professional experience I'd definitely say the figure is far higher than 1%, and I'd honestly be surprised if more than 90% of the population is totally 'straight'.

The bottom line unsure.gif is that is doesn't and shouldn't matter, but for the majority it still does.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 20:36:09
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 19 2008, 07:55 PM) [snapback]422263[/snapback]
Strange the amount of media power gay's hold for such a short percentage of people huh.gif

A wee bit like political polls and spin-eh?
mortonjag 2008-03-19 20:38:11 And it's goodnight from me

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mortonjag 2008-03-19 20:49:31
QUOTE(MrX @ Mar 19 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]422266[/snapback]
Gives his best/100% all the time.

No football brain, no creativity, no vision, little technique. Runs about like a headless chicken chopping people down and giving away fouls. Looked out of his depth in the 2nd division, not what we need if we have any ambition for stayingin the 1st.

Dean Keenan is rubbish. Dean Keenan isn't a footballer.

That is EXACTLY the type of dismissive rubbish which makes me talk about football afficionados and snobs.

WHO exactly do you think WE are right now-we are f*cking abysmal-it's taken me a long time to be able/willing to admit it but we are 1st division bargain basement trash right now, and folk like you still have the temerity to slag of a guy who was MOTM more than once last season, and scored the winner away at Peterhead.

The fact is quite simple-some folk just can't face reality, and wouldn't be seen dead in that Lada.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 20:51:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 19 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]422279[/snapback]
and it's a good night from him. smile.gif

Goodnight wub.gif sleep.gif sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-19 21:00:16
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 19 2008, 08:45 PM) [snapback]422276[/snapback]
Naw not really. In fact, nothing like it at all blink.gif

Aye it is-maybe not to quite the same degree, but the principle holds good.

'He had suffered brain damage in childhood, and believed everything he read in the newspapers'!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 21:02:17
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 19 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]422283[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI'm just NOT playing-I've seen pictures of Bawheid's glaicet leer till I'm sick!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 21:04:26
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 19 2008, 08:57 PM) [snapback]422285[/snapback]
Night baby. x

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mortonjag 2008-03-19 21:06:36
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 19 2008, 08:01 PM) [snapback]422265[/snapback]
Skank has already started spending her money !

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When did she visit the Ton's dressing room?
mortonjag 2008-03-19 21:16:00 Rangers 1- Partick1
mortonjag 2008-03-20 06:35:17
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 19 2008, 11:35 PM) [snapback]422351[/snapback]
Some of us work for a living, Doc biggrin.gif

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s***ebag
mortonjag 2008-03-20 06:36:30
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 20 2008, 01:09 AM) [snapback]422373[/snapback]
I asked why we can't get outside sponsorship for the youth teams . As far as the club is concerned the local area is a wasteland to look at potential sponsorship .

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mortonjag 2008-03-20 06:41:59
QUOTE(Patg @ Mar 19 2008, 09:46 PM) [snapback]422305[/snapback]
Variety of names ? Im on my dads PC in greenock and cant be arsed logging out then on again

Its ok to pester him once in a while as he pesters us all of the time

Point of order to you my little chocolate brownie-I don't PESTER you any more than I PESTER any other.

What Mortonjag does is defends his corner and his reputation. Don't bother the Jag and he won't bother you.

I'm pleased you've found a replacement receptacle for your sepia stained lingual apparatus RUSTY TONGUE.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 06:48:54
QUOTE(Patg @ Mar 20 2008, 12:17 AM) [snapback]422359[/snapback]
Does that make you more of a supporter than me ?

I dont goto as many games as I used too these days as I run a business and Saturdays make up over 50% of me weeks takings so its more important to stay in Edinburgh

Did I say not going made you any less of a supporter ? I think you have a wee chip on your shoulder m8

I said I went because I was a supporter and I wanted to hear what the management team had to say . im sure you had your reasons for not going

PS - Id like to work out how you goto many more games than me as my work has only caused me to miss a couple this year

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Did you not say before that you're manager of a nightclub RT?
mortonjag 2008-03-20 07:22:30 Thanks to Chrissiboi, Toby, Jonaton, and the others who had the courage and fortitude to suffer yet another embarrassing performance from liar in chief.

What have we learned that we didn't know yesterday?

There was no animosity between Midge and the club-LIAR.

Inverclyde is a wasteland for sponsorship-LIAR

More rumblings and fumblings about our non existent youth policy-LIAR

Have we had any encouragement from this rallying call to the fans-I don't sense it.

Crawford is making vague noises about an SPL stadium in 'three or four years' but can't afford the gargantuan cost of some decent turnstyles-AYE RIGHT.

Oh and a wee bit of Deja Vu--David Irons 'came over well'. That was quoted ad nauseam about JM after similar Shoogly Shows.

Mind you full credit to DI/DC for identifying the squad weaknesses-obviously they've been studying ancient copies of this rag!!! tongue.gif

One final point folks-ALISTAIR DONALD.


Is he deid?
mortonjag 2008-03-20 07:28:05
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 19 2008, 09:54 PM) [snapback]422308[/snapback]
MJ, you can't seriously with a straight face and no tongue in cheek suggest that Dean Keenan is of suficient quality to consistently perform in Scotland's second tier of football? Ayr Utd or East Fife or Arbroath are much more of his level. I remember the ginger whinger Stuart MacDonald who after the *careful, or I'll close down the Internet* fiasco spent many seasons at Arbroath (is he still there?) Stuart when he first broke into the team was twice the player Dean has ever been for us, playing in much the same roles yet seems to have found his level. I'm not deluded enough to expect perfection and I'm fully aware that the current footballing environment in the first division is not blessed with sublime or even half decent talent at the moment but I do not expect us to play the role of the pauper, turn up every week to watch s***e and ask for more please.

I can!

QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Mar 20 2008, 12:00 AM) [snapback]422356[/snapback]
Screw the analogies. Keenan has been consistently average or worse under Cormack Snr, McPherson, Cowboy and the recently departed McInally.

He has been consistently a great laugh in the dressing room since he came to the club, we've all heard about it. He is, by all accounts, the life and soul of the dressing room. Ripping a t-shirt off when he returns from training frequently. He is the Gazza, the clown!

He is not, aside from five or six good performances in the first team,
three of which came at the start of this season, a football player we should be keeping. No way is he better than Templeman, Linn, Gardyne and Shield - all of whom were released! I'd honestly be shocked if that many folk really thought this guy was an asset we should stop Ayr from signing in the summer...........

That must put him in the top 25%

QUOTE(MrX @ Mar 20 2008, 06:00 AM) [snapback]422380[/snapback]
Keenan is at best a good Boys Brigade/Ravenscraig 5-a-side player. Wouldn't ever question his commitment or a good laugh in the dressing room, but at this level we need a little bit more than that. There were loads of lads with 'plenty of commitment' and 'dig' in my Gourock YAC team, as far as I'm aware most of them are either mechanics, IBM workers, office workers, ect ect ect One ex-team mate was the Tory representatitve for Greenock a few years back.... maybe thats more Deano's calling than 1st division football.

Multiply by 11 !!
mortonjag 2008-03-20 07:34:59 Well done to the Jags, and to the other 1st division clubs who grasped the money spinning nettle-lucrative replay in the offing.


And to the Ton fans whose excuse was 'we need to concentrate on the league'-

It was an excuse.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 07:37:21
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 20 2008, 12:50 AM) [snapback]422370[/snapback]
In the same area that you guys are talking about, how do you guys rate the Shish Mahal on Park Road?

I believe it's quite well patronised locally. As I said, 'bad' curry houses in Glasgow (and particularly in the West End) don't exist.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 07:42:03
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 20 2008, 07:14 AM) [snapback]422386[/snapback]
Liquid nitrogen time Jagmeister.

Not on his willie, Teacher Tom.

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Indeed Newt, and I do take exception to Mr Bam's assumption that all wart virus infections are identical to his.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 07:44:28
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 20 2008, 07:41 AM) [snapback]422391[/snapback]
yawn

Not in bed yet Trumpet?
mortonjag 2008-03-20 08:41:01
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Mar 20 2008, 08:01 AM) [snapback]422395[/snapback]
Can't see what's funny about that.

Perception is indeed variable!
mortonjag 2008-03-20 08:43:02
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 20 2008, 08:04 AM) [snapback]422396[/snapback]
He's 35, not exactly Millenesque for Christ's sake. I wouldn't mind having an experienced player like Nicholls as back-up.

Indeed if Nichols is a dinosaur it's reasonable to describe our Chairman as a fossil.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 08:45:54
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Mar 20 2008, 07:55 AM) [snapback]422394[/snapback]
Jesus and the disciples are having the last supper. A discussion is taking place and then Jesus stands up and breaks the bread, he then takes wine and shared it round.

Jesus then goes on to talk about his favourite mircale, turning the water into wine and how great it would be if he could do that again, at that point Peter stands up and shout "Jesus for f*** sake, put your £20 in the kitty like every other c***"

He probably ended up raiding Judas's carry oot.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 09:04:17
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 20 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]422400[/snapback]
And if you had went you could have stood up and made these claims of lies to those who apparently say them.

Then again, you didn't...so erm....your view on it is pretty much void.

Puggs, I'm getting a wee bit weary of this. I understand the HUGE disappointment for many, who wanted a glimpse of Mortonjag in the flesh-perhaps even the opportunity to see him make a complete fool of himself.

I've thanked Toby, Chris, and JonaTon for being brave enough to suffer Rae's indifference and isolation from reality, but it's perfectly simple son. All my professional life I've been used to dealing with people on the basis of mutual self respect. I've been accountable to patients and colleagues, and in return have expected and received accountability.

I just regard it as a tad infra dignitatem to trek from Glasgow to the Port on a bleak March night on the off chance that I'll get a question in, only for a decrepit toffee maker to wriggle, lie, bluster, and dismiss.

Chrissiboi has described him as 'a cactus', and he certainly thinks the fans are pricks.

To suggest that 'my view is void' is just puerile, provocative, and pointless.

mortonjag 2008-03-20 09:06:20
QUOTE(Muz @ Mar 20 2008, 08:53 AM) [snapback]422401[/snapback]
Mortonjag- dont take this the wrong way like, but get to f***.

TY
mortonjag 2008-03-20 09:07:54
QUOTE(hartleyhare @ Mar 20 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]422404[/snapback]
I commented before that I could not understand this boards preoccupation with you and your posts (which by the way detract from some decent discussion) but I hope others will see how pathetic and pointless you are given your failure to take the opportunity to present your concerns to the club. Coward.

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Hare brained comments are usually ignored clown.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 09:09:16
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 20 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]422409[/snapback]
Seriously, what sort of c*** quotes latin on a football messageboard!

Are football message boards only for uneducated children?
mortonjag 2008-03-20 09:19:03
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 20 2008, 09:12 AM) [snapback]422411[/snapback]
s***ebag

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mortonjag 2008-03-20 09:19:29
QUOTE(Muz @ Mar 20 2008, 09:14 AM) [snapback]422412[/snapback]
You've completely ruined this board. Get to f***.

Is that your opinion?
mortonjag 2008-03-20 09:21:07
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Mar 20 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]422403[/snapback]
After the match on Saturday I wouldn't have put any money at all on Thistle getting a result (of any kind). So fair play to them on getting a draw at Ibrox - a fantastic result and I hope they do them at Firhill.

I was convinced McColl took them off the gas in the second half with last night in mind.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 09:41:47
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 20 2008, 09:27 AM) [snapback]422417[/snapback]
thats the third different reason you've given for not going, at least youre consistently inconsistent....s***ebag. tongue.gif

to be fair, I and everyone else seems to be reasonably happy with the answers given so you can go in a wee huff all you want but, im afraid your opinion on this is even more pointless than usual. tongue.gif

So you went after all-well done!


Are you really sure that 'everybody else is reasonably happy with the answers given'.

In particular I'd like your specific definition of 'everybody else'.

Why would I be in a 'wee huff' even if I did 'wee huffs'?

Summary of the show.


Rae pishes on questioners.

Irons makes pleasant noises.

Totally and utterly utterly predictable-EXACTLY what I expected.

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mortonjag 2008-03-20 09:42:44
QUOTE(Muz @ Mar 20 2008, 09:40 AM) [snapback]422424[/snapback]
Yes. I wish they would "fix" it so that the ignore function removed the posts completely instead of how it displays at the moment.

Sanctimonius arsehole.

Holy sh*t!
mortonjag 2008-03-20 09:48:12
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Mar 20 2008, 09:43 AM) [snapback]422427[/snapback]
Agree nothing worse than having someone on ignore for them to be quoted and keep appearing on the board

Seems some people feel some posts are worth quoting-are you quoted often my friend?
mortonjag 2008-03-20 10:06:10
QUOTE(.:BrIDo:. @ Mar 20 2008, 09:51 AM) [snapback]422430[/snapback]
You can moan on here constantly, but if you're not willing to go to the meetings and voice your opinions, don't complain when nothing changes.
It's like when people don't vote then complain about X, Y and Z.

Wrong on both counts-nobody is obliged to participate in an electoral system of which he disapproves.


More specifically, I'm a Morton supporter, and season ticket holder who goes to all games home and away at considerable expense.

That entitles me to opinions on how the club is run and it's perfectly obvious that opinions on this message board ARE READ. Opinions at the Shoogly Show remain unheard.

I understand that only eighty or so Morton supporters are now entitled to complain-is that what you're suggesting?

Did you enjoy the 'bash' by the way?
mortonjag 2008-03-20 10:09:49
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 20 2008, 09:59 AM) [snapback]422432[/snapback]
What happened to the whole "pulling together to avoid relegation" thing? Shat out of that as well?

I was slightly surprised that not one single player was present at the 'Rally'.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 10:14:27
QUOTE(cmdc @ Mar 20 2008, 10:10 AM) [snapback]422436[/snapback]
One thing I'd add about the Q&A, which I think often gets overlooked - especially when there were concerns that it had been postponed because the club feared taking a pasting...

...this is an evening, and a forum, established voluntarily by the club, not some requirement in their articles of association. That is at least the past three years (I cant remember beyond that) that fans of the club have been afforded the opportunity to question the chairman, manager, chief exec. directly - and no one can say that these three years have been a glorious period in the clubs history, so there have been plenty tough questions available to ask, even though we have eventually worked our way back to the First Division. I can't be sure, but I don't imagine fans at all clubs are afforded such an opportunity at all. The club is often criticised for being lacking in communication, but this is something I think they should receive a little bit of praise for.

If indeed those meetings were just as you describe them, I'd have to agree. The concensus from those who asked questions appears to be that they remained unanswered by Mr Rae. That is a measure of the man's self awareness. I'm sure he went home last night with a warm glow!
mortonjag 2008-03-20 10:17:43
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 20 2008, 10:08 AM) [snapback]422434[/snapback]
so by me not going im not allowed to be happy with the answers? then i guess that means by you not going you're not entitled to be unhappy in the answers, in which case we should both shut up. tongue.gif

they answered the questions that were asked with mostly answers that people wanted, or at least explained why when giving an answer people didn't want. Last night was hardly going to be life changing for Morton fans.

Iron's didnt just make pleasant noises, he identified the squad had no real full-backs without it being addressed to him in the question, thats already noticing where our previous management f***ed up.....so for that alone you could argue the night was worthwhile.

s***EBAG!!!


How the hell do you think you know that others are satisfied-that's plain daft.

I don't want to sound disparaging about DI, but he was rather stating the obvious.


mortonjag 2008-03-20 10:26:27
QUOTE(Toby @ Mar 20 2008, 10:21 AM) [snapback]422443[/snapback]
I've said I'd respect your stance mortonjag, it is up to you after all, and inspite of the way many questions were tip-toed around, I've got to admit I'm alot happier this morning than I have been in a long time on the basis that I've managed to get a few things off my chest. We may not have got the answers we wanted off him, but at least he's got a better idea now of our concerns.

Full credit to you and the others who made points Toby. I'm sure you know the old saying about listening but not hearing, although hopefully Crawford and others will have taken comments on board.

I'd hoped Alistair Donald was about to figure somewhere in plans, but my take from last night's show is that nothing's really changed.

Back to the drawing board in our attempt to avoid the drop, and HOPEFULLY we'll see some encouraging changes in the closed season.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 10:32:18
QUOTE(cmdc @ Mar 20 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]422446[/snapback]
Football is every bit as infected by spin culture as politics these days. I remember Tony Blair suggested that politicians should listen to football managers and learn how to avoid answering tough questions, and he's right. I didn't attend, but if I did I think I would go with the assumption that I'll be fed a few lines. I particularly wouldn't expect a straight answer to the Chris Millar question. In saying that, the managers answers seem to have been quite pointed, rather than mere spin, and that is encouraging.

I'm actually inclined to agree with the Chairman on one of his most contentious points - that Inverclyde is a difficult place to attract sponsorship. I would say however that a more professional commercial department would go some way to at least making the club a more attractive proposition for sponsors. The paradox is that arguably the best person for that job (I think the commercial department has really gone down hill since Sandra Fisher left at the dawn of the HS era) seems to be doing a successful job at Golden Casket, and thus helping keep the club afloat!

Interesting points. Inverclyde may not be a vibrant buzz of industry those days, but it's perfectly clear to me that Golden Casket has a vested interest in remaining the club's major sponsor.

I also note your BLIAR comments, but there's something inherently wrong about lies and spin to your OWN fellow fans at a Club Rally. Folk are not daft, and you can ultimately only fool some of the people all of the time.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 10:34:39
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 20 2008, 10:29 AM) [snapback]422448[/snapback]
i was judging by everyone who went who had contributed to threads on here afterwords, which is what i meant by everybody else.

stating the obvious is a far cry from what we used to have.

What have you been reading?!!

David Irons said nothing surprising or informative-that's what I expected.

My take is that nobody who questioned Rae was SATISFIED with his 'answers', though Toby felt heartened that he'd got his message over.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 10:35:58
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 20 2008, 10:31 AM) [snapback]422450[/snapback]
Also its good to see that Iron's looks like he knows exactly how he wants the club to go forward and exactly what he needs for that to happen which is promising.

As I said before, JM was extremely well received at earlier rallies.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 10:38:46
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 20 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]422447[/snapback]
Did an absolute belter of a jobby after the Madras the other night. All out in one go, with the turtles heid practically sipping the bog water before the whole load snapped off with a mighty plop. Water on the back of the legs and everything. The only downside was afterwards when it felt like someone had blowtorched my back door.

Did it close with a bang?
mortonjag 2008-03-20 11:02:25
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 20 2008, 10:56 AM) [snapback]422462[/snapback]
Okay then we're all doomed and going to die horrible lonely deaths, Morton are going to go bust and St Mirren fans buy Cappielow and turn it into a soap factory and someone is going to steal your last Blueberry muffin.

we might aswell all think like you seeing as nothing good can ever happen at Morton. What happened to get behind the team and a fresh new start, everyone else seems to be doing it....even Toby and the likes but already you're Judging Iron's on what JM has done or said in the past.

is it really impossible for someone to come accross well in your experience and actually mean what they say? if so then i feel really sorry for you.

I'm not conscious of having said or even suggested that David Irons meant anything other than what he said. I'm simply pointing out that JM was received in a similar fashion.

I don't eat blueberry muffins.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 11:08:32
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 20 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]422465[/snapback]
There was a study in the USA that came up with a figure of 2.6% which seems more like it. I can't remember if that meant that the remaining 97.4% were heterosexual or if the 97.4% also included bisexuals, but the conclusion that could be drawn was that the percentage of the general population who were homosexual was a lot lower than the 10% figure often quoted. As Colkitto says, the influence of the "homosexual lobby", if such a homogeneous body exists, is far greater in the media than the raw numbers would merit - maybe a consequence of the tendency for many homosexual males to be drawn towards more artistic pursuits, for example the theatre and other performing arts where they tend to excel.

One of the problems with this matter is that you can't discuss it or analyse the science behind it without being accused of "homophobia" which as I have said before is entirely the wrong word to use for persecution of homosexuals as a group. There was some research under way into "curing" homosexuality using hormonal therapy, with some success, but the research was condemned by the homosexual lobbyists, including Martina Navratilova in particular, as homophobic - a case of not liking the results and so trying to suppress them.

Being homosexual is not a matter of choice, so why persecute people because of it? You wouldn't persecute someone for being black or for having a physical disability, or at least most decent people wouldn't. School children are a pretty cruel group - they will single out anyone who shows any sign of differing from the norm in any way - but once we become adults, we should have learnt to be a bit more understanding and tolerant.

Far better to mock someone for supporting the OF - now that IS worth mocking.

Being heterosexual is not a matter of choice either, but heterosexuals in general assume that it is the 'correct' expression of sexuality simply because it appears to conform with reproductive function.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 11:12:32
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Mar 20 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]422466[/snapback]
That was my question smile.gif

I think Rae was talking about signing three players on contracts rather than emergency loans (which my question was about).

Did he misunderstand?
mortonjag 2008-03-20 11:22:21
QUOTE(Toby @ Mar 20 2008, 11:17 AM) [snapback]422472[/snapback]
No, he used his usual spin that signing three players would cost £100k, in the hope that we'd just accept this is alot of money. I tried to point out that this would not be the cost for a mere 6 weeks but didn't get the opportunity. To be fair, I didn't want it turning into the Toby & Dougie so didn't try too hard to ask the question before we moved on.

TY
mortonjag 2008-03-20 11:43:23
QUOTE(Yoda @ Mar 20 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]422475[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-03-20 11:45:40
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 20 2008, 11:42 AM) [snapback]422476[/snapback]
yip. mortonjag seems oblivious to the fact that he has alienated himself from a lot of decent posters on this board.

That's not your opinion. You're just plagiarising my signature.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 12:02:41
QUOTE(Marc @ Mar 20 2008, 11:48 AM) [snapback]422480[/snapback]
It was also said about the youth set up in comparison to Hamilton, which then got compared to Rangers paying £12 Million for Murray Park and not seeing a lot of the money back, which Toby replied with the best answer... "Alan Hutton" rolleyes.gif

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Is Hamilton good enough for the Premier League? Doubtful. I would say, I think that if they win promotion that they will have to strengthen their team with some premier league type signings.

Hamilton has a good defence though, as they have proven in home matches, which has seen them lose only three goals in nine or ten home matches. Hamilton, though, currently have a secret weapon, their artificial playing surface. On Saturday it was very slippy, a distinct advantage over other teams who play on their artificial surface only a couple of times a season while Hamilton has some 18 or more home matches in which to hone their own style for playing on an artificial surface.



As stated by Mr Rae.

I just wish we had some 'secret weapons' Shoogly!
mortonjag 2008-03-20 12:14:11
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Mar 20 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]422483[/snapback]
16000 plus posts later..

im sure that keyboard will go up in smoke one day, fookin hell, it is a little repetitive on these boards nowadays.



mortonjag

Posts: 16,469
Views: 1,703

puggsy_ton

Posts: 11,341
Views: 571

ThornTON

Posts: 11,286
Views: 793

GibbyTON

Posts: 9,133
Views: 977
DongaTon


Posts 8.500


Mortonjag is a retired gentleman. All of those others are reportedly in some kind of occupation or full time course. Never once have I heard criticism of the number of posts from them.

Hmm!
mortonjag 2008-03-20 14:27:48
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 20 2008, 12:30 PM) [snapback]422494[/snapback]
That is unbelievable, even by your standards of conceit! You have paraphrased the man then smugly call him a liar for the words YOU put down!! And you accuse Douglas Rae of spin!
How can you have the audacity to call someone a liar when you didn’t have the strength of your own convictions to go and listen to what the man actually said? No one else that went to the meeting, to my knowledge anyway is accusing him of lying. Only you, and you weren’t even there!
It would seem that your pomposity knows no bounds.
Do you know Chris Millar? Do you actually know the truth here ? Do you really know the details of the conversations that went on between Club, Agent and Player? Or are you just passing off your negative speculation as gospel again?
Folks? unsure.gif Why are you asking us? Surely if you wanted to know that you could have gone along last night and asked for yourself. Or was that just another example of your outstanding wit that you insist we should all appreciate as much as you do?

You'd be better off not making assumptions about whom and what I know and don't know.

Every sycophantic Shooglyphile is having a little field day because yet again some folk dare to call his behaviour in question.

My signature remains UNCHANGED.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 14:29:59
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 20 2008, 02:26 PM) [snapback]422522[/snapback]
laugh.gif it's amazing how many people one old man at a computer can upset.

i hardly agree with anything he says and spend most of my time arguing with him but i take what he says with a pinch of salt. let the guy spend his retirement how he likes, its actually rather sweet that we all mean so much to him that this is how he chooses to spend his leisure years, i think he'd be lost without us.

you're welcome to annoy me any time old timer. tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-20 14:30:42
QUOTE(Muz @ Mar 20 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]422524[/snapback]
f*** OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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mortonjag 2008-03-20 14:32:49
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 20 2008, 12:45 PM) [snapback]422498[/snapback]
There is fallacy about recouping money from the youth set up . Rangers did not open Murray Park to produce players for sale . They did so as they realised how much money can be saved from producing your own players .
Rangers under 19s last season swept the boards last season , those are thee next potential 1st team players of the near future .

A good youth set up provides you with your own players the by product is that bigger clubs or those with more money can purchase those players .

Whatever money we spent on guys like Templeman that money would have been better spent on producing more players for our future .

Indeed-seven years and not a penny for a home grown talent.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 15:11:50
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 20 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]422501[/snapback]
It would certainly appear that heterosexuality is the way nature or evolution intended it to work, and no doubt in a world where everything and everyone developed perfectly it would be the case for everyone. And undoubtedly heterosexuality is normal in that it is the norm (or is the correct term "mode"?). Anyway, the situation that occurs most frequently, in statistical terms.

As was voting Labour in Scotland for countless ages, and sending little boys down big chimney stacks!

I avoided the adjective in favour of 'correct' as I believe the concept of 'right and wrong' is inherent in homophobia.

I don't understand a homosexual drive any more than a gay person understands mine. I don't understand how anybody can derive pleasure from watching 'Swan Lake' either, but I'm pretty certain I'm not a balletphobe.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 15:16:26
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 20 2008, 02:49 PM) [snapback]422530[/snapback]
The MRUK Cello poll

The SNP's lead over Labour has soared to 8% on the constituency vote and 10 points on the regional list vote

The SNP are projected to win 57 seats - 13 more than Labour

Alex Salmond's ratings are +53

Wendy Alexander's ratings are -22

Among Labour voters, 66% say Alex Salmond is doing a good job, compared with 39% who believe Wendy Alexander is doing well.

Three times as many Scots trust Salmond over Alexander to deal with all the main areas of devolved government.

40% of Scots are less likely to vote Labour as a result of Wendy Alexander's illegal donation problems.

A quarter believe they are serious enough to warrant her resignation, while a further 15% think she should quit for other reasons.

Two-thirds of Scots say that they would vote for independence in certain circumstances.

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That is not in the slightest funny Spurtle-include me in those 2/3rds the minute I sense we have a party with the experience and maturity to do the job for the general good.

What's currently happening is quite pathetic.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 15:20:23
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 20 2008, 02:53 PM) [snapback]422532[/snapback]
Is that first sentence meant to be some kind of a threat or warning to me? blink.gif

Your signature should read " Don't they hate us when we spin the truth "

Now be a good boy and do as Muz says.

Just read what you posted over again!!!!!



Facts are chiels that winna ding!
mortonjag 2008-03-20 15:22:54
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 20 2008, 03:11 PM) [snapback]422540[/snapback]
Our posts are better? wink.gif

No win situation for the Jag then-try as I will to match your excellence, I inevitably fail, and am pilloried for humble effort!
mortonjag 2008-03-20 15:26:30
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 20 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]422545[/snapback]
You seem to be one of the few that thinks Doc tongue.gif

Very true Spurtle, very true!
mortonjag 2008-03-20 16:19:48
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 20 2008, 03:35 PM) [snapback]422549[/snapback]
Halifax is the best place I've had a curry.

Do they do home deliveries?
mortonjag 2008-03-20 16:35:19
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 20 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]422560[/snapback]
Come on MJ. Your vendetta against Douglas Rae does become a bit wearing, even for those who sympthise with your views. DFR is a Morton fan and if the club is his plaything, well thats the situation and there's not much any of us can do about it. I will say, however, its an expensive toy!!

As for your signature, it might be better expressed as:

Don't they just hate it when I speculate on the truth

No Tonsilitis-that's the whole point-I'm extremely careful not to make allegations I can't substantiate.

It's pretty obvious that most-possibly yourself included- buy into this old geezer sitting isolated at a computer somewhere in Glasgow.

I am in frequent communication with several other posters by pm, and can assure you I'm kept up to date with goings on behind the scenes.

Mr Rae has been caught out on lies many times in the past-it is NOT a new phenomenon, and the specific instances I mentioned-Millar, sponsorship, and the youth set up, are merely three areas where he's been less than honest.

Don't forget some of us still have a full record of correspondence last summer during the Stan Webster debacle. That is just another example of the strange goings on down Cappielow way.

Fair enough-I DO go on a bit, though frequently only in defence against the usual accusations and aggression from those who don't like the truth, but please don't call ME a liar. It's something I don't do-SIMPLE.

mortonjag 2008-03-20 17:18:20
QUOTE(.:BrIDo:. @ Mar 20 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]422563[/snapback]
So, you're buying your opinion? There's a simple solution to that. If you don't like this club the way it is.. go and find another one.

What a preposterous suggestion. I was asked what right I have to state my opinion and I told you. If you think the reasons given are unfair I suggest you ask others who pay to watch.

Your second comment is worthy of scorn-goodness-those words could have come straight from Mr Rae's mouth.

Maybe you are Mr Rae.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 17:26:44
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Mar 20 2008, 04:35 PM) [snapback]422566[/snapback]
Very true...

I don't agree with what our chairman comments on or the way some of his running of the club is done but i don't go on a rant about it every day, your post's are getting pathetic and annoying. I come on this website every other day and almost every time i am not suprised to see a topic from MortonJag going on a rant about our chairman, the players, the manager or the mascot!! Do you think when you do these post's that people are going to jump on board with you???

Well...

Maby they would have the first time you done the topic but when you continue to rant about the same thing over and over again you become annoying and hated.

You seem like a wise old man, shame you don't act like one.... cool.gif



QUOTE(tolmie perms r bak @ Mar 20 2008, 04:39 PM) [snapback]422569[/snapback]
guys shouldnt we all be pulling in the one direction thats why these rallys should be at the end of the season so we can discuss where we went right and wrong, NOT before our cup-final on sat prob our biggest game of the season
yes there is things dougie rae / crawford rae do or have done, that i dont agree with,but surely they have morton at heart, there is prob things we all do in work / life that somebody wont agree with but its your choice, ok there maybe be mistakes along the way but we all have the best interests at heart.
if any of you were a manager or chairman you would prob go and sign players that i wouldnt like or agree with but it doesnt make you wrong so stop the BITCHING and get behind the TON, then critise at the end of the season
CMON THE TON



QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 20 2008, 04:40 PM) [snapback]422571[/snapback]
f*** off you!!!



QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 20 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]422578[/snapback]
Yet the fruits of all this investigative journalism have so far comprised a small battery of unfunny nicknames for various club/messageboard figures, and your unwillingness to confront the club about them due to wanting to pull together for promotion... er, a trip to London... um, not thinking it'll do any good.



QUOTE(Mr H Palms @ Mar 20 2008, 04:55 PM) [snapback]422581[/snapback]
jag, the bottom line is that you had your chance last night to go toe to toe with doogie and you shat yourself, end of story. It dosent matter that you had people there telling you what when on. You are by far the biggest critic of doogie on here and you soiled your pants at the thought of standing up in front of people and taking him on. Most people on here, if they felt so strongly as you do would have went along and aired their views but not you, your coming up with excuses like the weather for not going to the town hall. You had your chance jag and blew big time



QUOTE(Kaney @ Mar 20 2008, 04:57 PM) [snapback]422584[/snapback]
MJ you're a f*cking fanny. Making a topic to draw attention to yourself, what an ars*hole.

Your constant critisism of Rae is just so much ridiculous as just plain f*cking stupid..

Rae purchased and saved this club in its 11th hour, and is constantly pumping cash into it to try and bring us a good team and something worth supporting.
What the f*ck have YOU ever done for Morton?
Sat behind your pc, moaning about how all these folk at Morton aren't/cant do their job properly. What is that bringing to the club? Why are you here?

Seriously. The majority of us are here to support our club through thick and thin. Call yourself a fan of Morton all you want, but you really dont act like it. You're just a fandan. A total fandan.
Tell you what, gawn support East Stirling. I bet you'll find more to moan about there than with us.

Ya w*nk.



QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Mar 20 2008, 05:03 PM) [snapback]422586[/snapback]
Agreed , All Mouth (Keyboard) ..

TTG MJ

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Goodness gentlemen-Mortonjag DOES upset you a little. I can't understand why you're all so touchy when the Ton is progressing in leaps and bounds, just as all TRUE supporters want. unsure.gif


Perhaps you should be targeting the real villain of the piece.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 17:30:28
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 20 2008, 05:10 PM) [snapback]422592[/snapback]
i just realised, although everyone else probably did ages ago that, by taking this Job if JM f***s it up then that will be him done in management forever probably as there isnt anywhere lower to go.

bit of a risk, and not a promising start for him with two 3-0 defeats but he'll have to pull it round for the sake of his career.

And I just realised my friend that I took the same kind of abuse for criticising JM two and more seasons ago, as I'm taking today for calling the Chairman in question!

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mortonjag 2008-03-20 17:33:05
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 20 2008, 05:28 PM) [snapback]422599[/snapback]
Yeah, by going to a rally and asking the tough questions... oh, wait.

I explained why I did not go. You are flogging a dead horse and demeaning yourself in so doing.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 17:35:23
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 20 2008, 04:55 PM) [snapback]422583[/snapback]
Cheers to those who asked questions on the youth situation in particular. smile.gif

Why were you not there to ask questions for yourself-no excuses mind! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-20 17:36:24
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 20 2008, 05:35 PM) [snapback]422607[/snapback]
to be fair you explained about 5 excuses reasons. How was London btw? tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-20 17:40:48
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 20 2008, 05:35 PM) [snapback]422608[/snapback]
A bit of advice for you wee man dry.gif ................. When you're in a hole- Stop Digging!

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mortonjag 2008-03-20 17:43:04
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 20 2008, 05:40 PM) [snapback]422616[/snapback]
Nach0king doesnt have to justify being there or not as he hasn't used 16,000 + postings to bleat on to us all about what he feels is wrong with the club.

You just dont get it do you? blink.gif

Do you also wipe his arse for him?
mortonjag 2008-03-20 17:51:59
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 20 2008, 05:42 PM) [snapback]422619[/snapback]
You didn't go because you shat out of it, yet you're still on here berating everyone else for not being privy to your insider information and not thinking that "Shoogly" is the spawn of satan.

There aren't half as many "Shooglyphiles" as you think there are, yet that's the stock accusation thrown at anyone foolish enough to get involved in one of your poisonous threads.

Change the f***ing record. You had the chance to do something about all the evils that apparently permeate the club at every level, and you shat out of it.

So good you had to say it twice and you've the cheek to talk about poisonous threads.

How would you know how many 'Shooglyphiles' there are any more than I do?

Nobody 'had the chance to do something about it' you clot-THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT.

I've thanked those who did ask questions, and their feedback is that, as expected, Rae evaded those directed to him. You chose to stay away.

As I've said elsewhere, nobody is defending the Chairman any more. We are perhaps progressing slowly in the awareness stakes.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 17:59:07
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Mar 20 2008, 05:44 PM) [snapback]422622[/snapback]
perhaps sometimes its nice to come on to a forum to read everyones views and this is what pisses people off. but fair enough you have the time to kill.

we should change this address to mortonjag.org.

Its not your views that annoy, many of them are probably shared with a lot of the board users, its the spamming manner of putting them across that becomes tedious. its not about reading different views on morton anymore, its about opening this forum and just reading the same view point over and over and over and over etc. its very dull getting.

Fair enough-that's how it appears WIG.

Why don't you analyse what actually happens?

Without comment and controversy the forum would die. Every comment, and every controversial post I make on certain topics results in a flurry of abuse-personal attacks are most common, followed by posing of questions, which of course I attempt to answer.

Even though I say this, I'll be surprised if some jumped up clown doesn't rise to the bait and reply to this post.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 18:01:00
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 20 2008, 05:58 PM) [snapback]422628[/snapback]
At least one of the guys you quoted earlier has criticised the chairman in the past at least once - in fact I'd say almost everyone on the board has - but apparently when they post in response to you they somehow morph into unquestioning lickspittles.

Are you seriously saying that if you showed up at the rally with all this secret correspondence you were talking about earlier and stood up and read it out, there wouldn't be at least some repercussion from it?

I chose to work last night. Iprobably could have asked for the night off, but I'd prefer to save my holidays for other things, and the one question I wanted asked was indeed covered by various people... I suppose that's analogous with spending three years of leisure years posting this and that about the chairman and then fumbling around trying to find an excuse for my bricking it when the chance comes to say my piece to him.

So the shooglyphiles aren't defending the chairman? What makes them shoogyphiles, then, other than your addiction to pish nicknames?

I don't understand a word of that. Do you?
mortonjag 2008-03-20 18:02:15
QUOTE(Kaney @ Mar 20 2008, 05:51 PM) [snapback]422626[/snapback]
TTG!

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mortonjag 2008-03-20 18:04:45
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 20 2008, 05:43 PM) [snapback]422621[/snapback]
Because I was working last night until around 11pm.

Your work was clearly more important to you than attending what you knew would be a waste of time.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 18:07:25
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 20 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]422624[/snapback]
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Now who is demeaning themselves?

Don't be daft-Nach0's a big boy-he doesn't need (or necessarily want) you jumping to his defence when all you're really doing is TRYING to score cheap points.

BTW what do you think of Mr Rae's stewardship of the club so far?
mortonjag 2008-03-20 18:08:41
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 20 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]422625[/snapback]
i just typed Mortonjag into google and this came up

http://www.specialistauctions.com/valuatio...mp;topic_id=826
i espescially like the bit where the guy asks you for close up pictures of your ring. had a feeling you'd be going onto those kind of sites when you retired you dirty old man. laugh.gif

You are a naughty boy. The fatal fascination with mortonjag continues. Would you like to see my ring?
mortonjag 2008-03-20 18:16:10
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 20 2008, 06:03 PM) [snapback]422632[/snapback]
After skipping over the bit about poisonous threads in your last reply to me, I addressed your other four points in turn.

p.s. a whole two minutes elapsed before you climbed up onto your cross to say that you deigned to "try to answer" questions set to you and the pithy one-liner that you provided just now. f***ing incredible.

I'm sorry sonny boy, but you really are irritating me, and it's not often I admit that.

The reason is simple-you ARE an intelligent man-yet you've bought into the 'personal attacks when all else fails' stuff of the common 5/8ths. Don't bother accusing me of personal attacks-they are ALWAYS in defence.

Admit it-this has very little to do with Douglas Rae-you just can't cope with Mortonjag.

BTW-what do you think of Mr Rae's stewardship of the club to date?
mortonjag 2008-03-20 18:18:00
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 20 2008, 06:04 PM) [snapback]422633[/snapback]
giving him another thread all to himself is exactly the right thing to do. tongue.gif

Shh-I won't have anything to do!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 06:38:42
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 20 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]422648[/snapback]
Is this your idea of trying to answer questions? Because you're doing a pish job of it.

I think if you total up DDF's achievements as Morton "steward" from the day of his takeover to date, and allot points to them, things are around 60:40 in a good:bad ratio. I think the upgrades made to the stadium, the fact that (after a winding road) we are in division 1, the improved (but still not perfect - not by a long stretch) financial situation of the club, and other such "facts on the ground" are positives. I think a questionable attitude towards the fans, a micromanaging approach, the youth system, some of our transfers, and his reluctance to strengthen the squad last summer are among his failings.

Fair enough, and I respect people's opinions even when I strongly disagree with them.

Furthermore I've learned how to cope reasonably well with harassment of most kinds Nach0,and that includes personal abuse from those who don't know better. Sometimes they're best ignored, and sometimes they're best put in their place. I'm talking in a general sense-not specifically about Morton fans.

I'm happy to draw a veil over this thread by pasting this from today's Herald. You will remember that Partick Thistle were the team who beat us in the play offs as Mr Rae chose to retain Jim McInally's services.




Thistle’s gambles starting to pay off
MARTIN GREIG March 21 2008

Partick Thistle could earn as much as £300,000 from their quarter-final tie with Rangers and in so doing completely wipe out their predicted annual losses.


The Firhill club drew 1-1 with Rangers at Ibrox on Wednesday night to set up a potentially lucrative replay at home. The replay compounds Rangers' already hectic fixture schedule, but Thistle are hopeful that the tie will be staged on Sunday, April 13, the proposed date for the semi-final tie, and that it will also be televised.

Thistle already stand to profit to the tune of around £120,000 from their 40% share of the 36,000 Ibrox attendance. A Firhill capacity crowd for the replay could net them a further £100,000, while TV money would add on another £82,500. "The financial implications of Wednesday night's result and the forthcoming replay are huge for us," said Tom Hughes, the club's finance director.


"This year, we expected to lose between £300,000 to £350,000, but last night's game would have halved that. Depending on TV coverage, we could reduce that even more. We are hoping that the game will take place on Sunday April 13 and it will be live on TV. If that happens we would be looking at almost eliminating our predicted losses for the year.

"There was some talk about playing it next week, but that is impossible because it is the Easter weekend and we could not get the ticketing organised in time. Rangers are in Europe during the next two midweeks following next week's Scotland game. They moved our game so that they could play the Hibs game on the quarter-final day, so we are hoping that they decide to play it on the semi-final day. We are hoping it will be a sellout at Firhill for the replay."

Thistle's impressive cup run, under the shrewd guidance of manager Ian McCall, has vindicated the club's policy of investing more in the team. It was a bold step with the medium to long-term aim of restoring the club to the Premier League.

"We are still recovering from building the stand and dropping out of the SPL. We decided to change our policy last year," explained Hughes. "In the past we had always reacted by cutting costs but when you do that you go into freefall.

"We had a big discussion on whether we should turn part-time, but we made the decision to stay full-time. This year, with the management changes, we decided to support Ian and stay full-time. At the beginning of last year we budgeted for a loss and gave him a budget to sign players on longer-term contracts.

"We have a plan for the next three to five years - 90% of last night's team are signed for at least another year and a good proportion are signed for even longer. Liam Buchanan, Alan Archibald, David Rowson and Jonny Tuffey are all signed until 2010. For the first time in years and years we are very optimistic about the future on the park."

Thistle are currently mid-table in the first division, but next season McCall hopes to challenge for promotion.

"One of the big things is hanging on to the manager," added Hughes. "He has been a breath of fresh air and is very tactically astute. I think there are a lot of similarities with John Lambie in the way he uses and deals with players.

"We are really lucky to have him. The team have done their job this season and the fans have started to come back. It takes a long time to win them, but we are hopeful that it will be a sellout for the replay."
mortonjag 2008-03-21 06:48:12
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 20 2008, 07:24 PM) [snapback]422682[/snapback]
Its not your views that are the problem. Its

1) Their repetition ad naseum
2) The lack of any acceptance that anyone else may have a valid and supportable point of view.

I'm sure that you have the same basic affinity to Morton that we all have and only want the best for the club but you need to seriously think about how you get those views across.

I'm sorry good friend-I always acknowledge the right of others to have opinions, and mine to debate their validity.

Some folks appear huffy at times! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-21 06:56:38
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Mar 20 2008, 07:42 PM) [snapback]422694[/snapback]
Our resident retired doctor with only time on his hands and his pedestal for company reckoned I was talking rubbish when I said they might manage to survive beyond the season.

I said I wouldn't be surprised if they were here this time next season and I'm becoming even more convinced by the week.


I don't seem to re call making ANY comments on this thread so far, but thanks for the opportunity when all around are attempting to gag me.

I would not be in the slightest surprised if Gretna fail to fulfil their league obligations-only time will tell-not selfish SPL manipulation.


QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 20 2008, 07:57 PM) [snapback]422702[/snapback]
yes but you're just a child wink.gif

How old is he Trumpet?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 07:01:33
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 20 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]422646[/snapback]
(nach0king)
Because I was working last night until around 11pm.
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(Mortonjag)
Your work was clearly more important to you than attending what you knew would be a waste of time.
Don't they hate us when we tell the truth

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Is this you telling the truth or a classic example of you spinning again .

Time to call it day I think. You know you've lost this and you've been left looking like a complete tool.

More personal insults from our resident Kilmacomic.

Would it be naughty if I suggested that you seem to owe Nach0 a favour?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 07:04:17
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 20 2008, 06:32 PM) [snapback]422654[/snapback]
It must have been a different Dean Keenan that I saw playing well when McLaughlin was out injured and who got player of the month on JonaTon's blog and who everyone was on here saying how much he'd improved than the one that's absolutely useless.

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mortonjag 2008-03-21 07:06:01
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Mar 20 2008, 11:24 PM) [snapback]422809[/snapback]
A rising tide raises all ships.

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Titanic's taking a while.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 07:07:26
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 20 2008, 06:04 PM) [snapback]422634[/snapback]
I will be phoning the administrators in the morning to say that I assume they will be using the money from the Celtic game to pay their creditors in full. Anything else, such as using the money to run the club until May, would be theft IMHO. Particularly as after this weekend, any remaining games will be run at a loss.

This whole business is getting fishier and fishier. Where have the funds come from to allow them to continue?

SPL greed and complicity Alibi-simple as that.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 07:12:16 It's not a new system at all. It's called attack,and was used to great advantage by famous Ton sides of former years.

Most fans will go home happy with two scored against, if the boys knock in five.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 07:15:53
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 21 2008, 07:08 AM) [snapback]422850[/snapback]
It's a great way to be a smart arse. Come up with a point of view, stick with it regardless and when it eventually happens you say you were right all along. Take McInally for instance, football managers generally all get the bullet eventually so when he arrives you say he's rubbish and stick by that despite anything that happens in between. The Celtic fans are doing the same to Strachan where from day 1 he's never been "Celtic class" and despite winning back to back championships and taking Celtic further in the Champs League than they've ever been, a couple of struggling performances sees the I told you so brigade out in full force.

You appear to be suggesting that I was wrong in my assessment of Jim McInally!

May I humbly and with due deference to your immutable right of opinion, suggest that you may be slightly mistaken?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 07:18:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 20 2008, 06:51 PM) [snapback]422661[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

come to Sydney, mate and I will give you the pleasure of seeing Swan Lake at the SOH.

What else would you like to come for ?

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ballet's for pufes.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 07:25:31
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 20 2008, 08:44 PM) [snapback]422727[/snapback]
Well i've been down Allison Street many times before, and its kinda similar, i think.

Before you ask, Allison Street did exist in 1963/4 season.

...When Govanhill was a respectable working class/lower middle class residential area, with only a smattering of first generation Asians.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 07:32:36
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 20 2008, 10:18 PM) [snapback]422776[/snapback]
Nope Newt.

WWII was within our fathers' memories, and hence we got it direct.

For other weans now it was their great grandfathers who might have fought.
Oh Tempora, Oh mores. sad.gif

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WW11 is still within many living memories Mr Bam-I have a vivid recollection of my Mum's Ration Book, and can remember, for example reconstituted egg (known as 'powdered egg'), which was sold in brown paper pokes.


I was conceived during WW11-some folks would argue that I lived through it.

Churchill certainly gave a toss about our national identity.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 07:35:03
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Mar 20 2008, 10:55 PM) [snapback]422791[/snapback]
A new addition to the Morton family this morning... son number two for 'Dr Zhivago'! biggrin.gif

Will never sit well that the place of birth for both was Paisley!! tongue.gif

Congratulations to you both.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 07:40:56
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 21 2008, 01:53 AM) [snapback]422836[/snapback]
Mon the f***ing Jag. Aye, I hated you at first but I've grown to love ye. Jag must stay!!

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BTW you never answered my last question-did yer bum shut with a bang?

Not all jobbies are tapered.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 08:10:50
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 21 2008, 07:21 AM) [snapback]422856[/snapback]
Far from it, what I am saying if you care to take the time to read what I've rotten is that predicting a football manager will get the sack or walk as McInally did is mere child's play as it will most likely hapen eventually, be it in six months or six years. I can only hope that you paid more attention to your patient's notes than you do to simple, uncomplicated rag posts.

I always read posts before replying AND before posting Ratarse! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Of course managers come and go-sometimes to better things. They do NOT inevitably get the sack or 'walk' as you appear to suggest. Some move on to greater things.

I did not rate JM from the word 'go', and I consistently explained why-UNLIKE 75% of posters who I believe, behaved like sheep.

Think carefully before you reply. It's utterly possible that I could have been wrong, and that JM could now be managing in the Premiership.

I'd also like to point out that I predicted a successful management career for Derek McInnes, the minute he took over at St Johnstone. I may prove to be wrong. Indeed in sticking my neck out positively, I appear to have somewhat weakened your argument.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 08:21:23 This is just a game which the optimists always seem to lose those days.

Can it get any worse-can the Livvy forwards mug us for a fourth time?

Can't see why not-nothing seems to have changed that much.

Hope springs eternal-Morton 3 Livvy 1

LEAFY, Jamie, Spoonsy.

mortonjag 2008-03-21 08:24:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 21 2008, 08:17 AM) [snapback]422868[/snapback]
I think you may have missed the joke, Josie. Or was it Francie that was good at rotten songs? biggrin.gif

Can't remember DE but they were a funny pair.


Gonnygeezapunnaburrafurramurra
mortonjag 2008-03-21 08:29:10
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 21 2008, 03:37 AM) [snapback]422837[/snapback]
"Nappy- headed hos," the phrase that cost US radio shock jock Don Imus his job and triggered a debate on how far free speech can go, was named as the most egregious politically incorrect turn of phrase in 2007.

Trailing behind that phrase in the annual survey by Global Language Monitor (www.LanguageMonitor.com), a word usage group, were "Ho-Ho-Ho" and "Carbon Footprint Stomping," said the group's president Paul JJ Payack.

"Ho-Ho-Ho" made the list after a staffing company in Sydney, Australia suggested to prospective Santas they drop their traditional greeting in favor of "Ha-Ha-Ha" so as not to invoke images of the derogatory US slang term for women.
"Carbon Footprint Stomping" is a phrase used to describe flaunting environmentally "green" activities by doing things like driving gas-guzzling Hummers and flying private jets, which in these energy-conscious times might be considered the height of political incorrectness.

New York-based Imus was fired from his popular morning radio program by CBS in April 2007 after a national controversy erupted over his use of the "Nappy-headed" phrase to describe the Rutgers University women's basketball team. Imus later apologised and met with the team to ask for forgiveness.

Last November, he was hired by a different network.

"It is no surprise that 'Nappy-headed hos' was selected as the top politically incorrect word or phrase for 2007," said Mr Payack.

"A year later that phrase is still ricocheting about the Internet, even affecting Christmas-season Santas in Australia "

Among other examples on the list are:

"Fire-breathing Dragon" - Children's book author Lindsey Gardiner was asked to eliminate a fire-breathing dragon from her new book because publishers feared they could be sued under health and safety regulations.

"Wucha dun did now?" - The subtitle of a "Ghetto Handbook" distributed by a Houston school district police officer to enable readers to speak "as if you just came out of the 'hood."

"Gypsy skirt" - The colorful layered skirt was given a new name, "Traveller Skirt," since police in Cornwall, a county in southwest England, believed the term "Gypsy Skirt" might be considered offensive to Gypsies.

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And the term West Country Pasty has been introduced to avoid offence to the anaemic geriatrics of St Ives.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 08:38:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 21 2008, 08:31 AM) [snapback]422872[/snapback]
I'm currently 'out to tender' with a specialised residential care facility for people with a diagnosis of dementia. Site start is programmed for August with completion one year thereafter. Do you want me to book you a place? There are twelve left. McB and CHC are sharing a double room. I've got the penthouse suite of course. laugh.gif

Is Newt coming?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 08:44:08
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 21 2008, 08:33 AM) [snapback]422873[/snapback]
I fail to see how without knowing each of the individuals personally that you can assess that McInally would fail and McInnes will succeed before their teams have even kicked a ball. Like I say it's nothing more than a gamble. Have St Johnstone been successful? Yes a couple of good cup runs and a chace of Hampden glory but they are further off the pace in the league than they were last season when they ran a bankrolled Gretna close to the wire. Not exactly a resounding success. and not exactly the best example you've used. Agreed not all managers get the sack or walk from a disapointment but they do far outnumber the relative few that get promoted up the chain as it were. It's also just as easy to predict success as it is failure. It's just as easy to put positive spin on something as it to give something a negative spin.

Rather than behaving like sheep I am of the opinion that most of the support were prepared to give the guy a chance and started with a neutral opinion of McInally. It's perhaps ironic (perhaps deliberately ironic?) that you criticise auld shoogly for patronising the fans and the whole shoogly show yet you call 75% (a significant majority) of posters on here sheep for not agreeing with your every word. Your posts are degenerating with each one into a series of inane ramblings that surpass anything rotten in the Chairman's Notes.

I understand what you say, and I don't imagine I'd be much good at your job either, though I did discover the obvious lead piping missed during the 'walk through' survey of my son's house, much to the annoyance of a well established Southside firm who grudgingly settled out of court.

As to 'inane ramblings'-that's becoming the stock insult phrase-do try to be more inventive.

mortonjag 2008-03-21 08:47:49
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Mar 21 2008, 08:44 AM) [snapback]422877[/snapback]
I read in the paper a couple of weeks ago that Whistlers were looking for staff, re-opening as Tokyo Joe's, ahh, memories. rolleyes.gif

I'm free!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 08:49:49
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 21 2008, 08:47 AM) [snapback]422880[/snapback]
That is because is he actually a tw@t. smile.gif

Tw@t = extremely wealthy and successful man? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-21 09:30:51
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 21 2008, 09:05 AM) [snapback]422890[/snapback]
I could have sworn it was Peterhead that beat us in the play-offs. rolleyes.gif

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Peterhead were promoted ahead of us that season?

Another typical example of the smartarse kind of post the Jag has to reply to Naitch, and YOU can carry the can for that one! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-21 09:32:53
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 21 2008, 08:39 AM) [snapback]422875[/snapback]
Is he still alive?

Is he newt?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 09:34:41
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 21 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]422882[/snapback]
That's got to be the worst insult I've seen on this board. I didn't know that calling somebody an estate agent would be allowed. Shame on you.

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It was MUCH worse DE-a halluvalot worse to be precise! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-21 09:43:24
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 21 2008, 08:55 AM) [snapback]422884[/snapback]
Because they are in administration - protects them from any action, including the court action I took, which probably cost a few thousand and is now pretty well a waste of time.

I reckon the system is set up to let people rip people off - I must go out today and buy a Ferrari and then file for administration at tea time.


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Our fellow poster with big pharyngeal lymph nodes will no doubt correct me, but Administrators appear disinterested in personalities.

So long as their fee has been paid and the figures look right, real live people apparently play little part in their miserable professional trudge through life.

I make no apology for comparing them to undertakers.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 09:51:15
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 21 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]422887[/snapback]
And you can't get Gypsy Creams any more. Except in Oz, where they have been renamed Romany Creams. FFS....

...and *potential ethnic slur removed* brown polish was once entirely PC.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 09:55:11
QUOTE(Mr H Palms @ Mar 20 2008, 09:23 PM) [snapback]422747[/snapback]
aye, euthanasia4U and necrophilia R us




I indeed have a large tranche of shares in the Tata group, though my other company 'In Dead Ernest' is of the limited liability variety.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 09:56:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 21 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]422897[/snapback]
oui, mon ami

etes vous un pufe celebre newt?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 09:58:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 21 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]422886[/snapback]
Regardless of how wealthy or successful someone is, they can still be a tw@t of a person smile.gif

A wealthy and successful tw*t? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-21 10:02:03
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 20 2008, 10:35 PM) [snapback]422780[/snapback]
A great actor died today. He refused to take royalty's patronage (a knighthood) on two occasions. Unlike that much lesser talent (and pretend Scotsman) Shir Shawn.

What was his most famous hour DE? I know little about the arts.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 10:18:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 21 2008, 10:04 AM) [snapback]422912[/snapback]
Probably 'A Man for All Seasons'.

Bloody hell DE-I knew that rung a bell-saw it in the Cinema in Hastings in 1967 if I'm not mistaken. I was dragged there by a sweet girl I met while on holiday-Hilary White from Petts Wood, Orpington.

Have you met her?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 10:20:02
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 21 2008, 10:06 AM) [snapback]422913[/snapback]
I'm sure we can think of someone you would surely put under that banner! rolleyes.gif

Shoorly not!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 10:29:36
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 21 2008, 10:13 AM) [snapback]422915[/snapback]
well done to nacho for being bothered to write what we all know. it's quite pathetic watching mentaljag claim to have any credibility left after his craven refusal to let dougie know in person what you think of him.

how was london by the way, mj? i always make time for a visit to the british museum. i hope you managed to stop by - there's an exhibition about the atlantic slave trade on just now. you should read up on it. maybe get away from the computer for an hour or so a day.

You lot are a bit late, but better late than never-neighbours been shagging again?

Trying Polyfilla on the shoulder?

Self gratifying in the knowledge that you are so important and charge society SO little?

Oh-and London-that's the second time some clot has failed to read what I wrote. Plenty of old fossils down Inverclyde way, and Spurtle would disapprove of a visit to the British Museum anyway.

I do try to keep my fellow posters contented.


mortonjag 2008-03-21 10:38:53
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Mar 21 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]422920[/snapback]
A nurse told The Sun Newspaper how she nearly died from an allergic reaction to her knickers.

Kim (37 of Edinburgh) claimed a fibre used to absorb moisture in her £4 control pants could have sparked the dangerous reaction, most commonly linked to nut allergies, she further commented "I whipped the knickers off and tried to control the reaction"

Kim I have the same problem when a lady takes her knickers off in front of me and dont even start me on moistness and nuts

While no picture can be legally copyrighted, I am led to believe the knickers are similar to these.

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI'll be interested to find out if they've subsequently established the true cause of the anaphylactic reaction.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 10:40:58
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 21 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]422923[/snapback]
Never mind that, you haven't answered my earlier question. Do you want to reserve a place or not?

Will I get to bring my computer, the monkey, and fing, my guitar, and a change of catheter bag?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 10:42:05
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 21 2008, 10:31 AM) [snapback]422927[/snapback]
Scratch that. They sell the glass bottles in the bowling alley in St. Helier.

Are you in?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 10:47:37
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 21 2008, 10:40 AM) [snapback]422934[/snapback]
one at a time, i suppose.

i do other things with my time.
are you talking about the proverbial chip? who fills chips? and anyway, what chip have i got exactly?
i don't know where you get the idea that i am self-important. it's a bit hypocritical of you to throw that insult around. and a wee throwaway, self-mocking story i told on here the other day seems to have struck a note with you, and you alone. why don't you tell us why?


Who ARE youse?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 10:52:11
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Mar 21 2008, 10:36 AM) [snapback]422931[/snapback]
ive had my son there 4 times now and he is just over 2.

tbh its a pain in the erse! it was good the first time just as a photo opportunity and to get him initiated through the gates... but then you get the games where theres a limited interest in fitba. ie 2 minutes, i didnt even know there was two imitation birds hanging from the main stand roof until he started shouting "quack quack" and pointing at the roof...
another time he joined in the cheering and clapping with away fans.. (amazin..).

anyway, i ended up leaving just before halftime twice to nip down to ma maws at the bottom of the port, papping him and then driving back to watch the game myself. get them down get them in there and that, but there is little interest in the game.. ill give it til next season before i even thought of trying again. til he can run aboot a bit at the front of the sinclair st end or something and let me see some of the game!

living in glesga im just trying to get a "hook" on morton early, before any auldfirm influence at all. aye once as a baby just for the photies.. after that, get to enjoy yer last games of peace for a season or two.. as it will all end soon!

and congrats on the family addition!

Good luck!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 10:55:27
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 21 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]422943[/snapback]
Unless you're writing in code son, you're post said that 'Partick beat us in the play-offs'....we didn't even play the Harry Wraggs in the play-offs. rolleyes.gif

I'm well aware of what I wrote Grandad, and make no apology.

Four teams competed, and three were beaten to the SPL by Partick.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 10:57:27
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 21 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]422944[/snapback]
you'd think out of 16000 and counting posts there would be the odd unpredictable one.

LES-CHIENS_MANQUEE?

You are legion-or just a two headed dug?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 11:00:08
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 21 2008, 10:59 AM) [snapback]422953[/snapback]
Will you remember where you've put them? laugh.gif

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Why do you think I NEED them to come?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 11:02:53 First tasted alcohol in 'The Locker' in Gourock when I was seventeen. I was in Ravenscraig at the time.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 11:04:33
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 21 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]422955[/snapback]
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Giraffe's baws Puggs?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 11:08:13
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 21 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]422956[/snapback]
by us i meant the people on this messageboard, although you knew that fine well. another post you largely ignore, picking up on an inconsequential bit thus allowing yourself to believe that you answer everything and never lose an argument.

f*** this. wallpapering the kitchen is finally looking like good fun.

Of course I did-it never fails to amaze me how many folk think they speak with tongues! wink.gif


I'd suggest you don't wallpaper the kitchen-many more suitable coverings are available. I'm good at tiling if you'd like a hand.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 11:12:54
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 21 2008, 11:10 AM) [snapback]422962[/snapback]
do you have asberger's syndrome?

Would I know?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 11:18:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 21 2008, 11:12 AM) [snapback]422965[/snapback]
i told you you were just like Dougie and that is why you disliked him so much!

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I don't dislike Shoogly.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 11:21:45
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 21 2008, 11:14 AM) [snapback]422968[/snapback]
do you know if you have asberger's syndrome?

Cognitive function is impaired to a variable degree in Asperger's syndrome.

I'm not an expert on the condition. You could always 'Google' and see what comes up.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 11:32:50
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 21 2008, 11:14 AM) [snapback]422967[/snapback]
the only problem he has with his computer is that he's never feeeking aff the thing! laugh.gif

rolleyes.gif


It may seem like that to you young man, but it's just that I accomplish most other tasks quickly and efficiently.

For example, I NEVER let myself become constipated-goodness knows how much time that saves over the course of a year.

How much time would you allow yourself to complete the Herald crossword- I normally polish it off in less than twenty minutes.

I can also let you have my recipe for five minute fairy cakes, if you like fairy cakes or baking.

Oh..and of course I'm three quarters way through writing my autobiography 'From Rags to the Crematorium'.

I compose my own songs and entertain myself on the guitar.

Sometimes I write wee poems.

etc., etc.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 11:41:38
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 21 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]422975[/snapback]
you've basically called him a compulsive liar who is ruining the club you like, do you like a lot of people like that?

Have I?

I voluntarily counsel youngsters with addictive problems PT-many-indeed most of them have learned the art of compulsive lying-it goes with the problem.

As a bunch, I find them no different from society as a whole-except that they appear to have vulnerable personalities more often than not.

One or two have proved to be little sh*ts, but I'm fond of the majority.


Having said that, if their addictive behaviour was hurting me, I might feel very differently.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 12:00:05
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 21 2008, 11:46 AM) [snapback]422983[/snapback]
How's this one?

There was an old man called MJ,
Who was grumpy, obnoxious, and gay,
He'd get Ton fans mad,
But he was just glad,
To post here all night and all day.

Boom boom. smile.gif

Mundane and unimaginitive-scans poorly-4/10-you must try harder.

A celibate sicko from Ghent
Prayed hard for a willie unbent
Poor misguided sod
There isn't a 'God'
And instead of him coming, he went.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 12:04:40
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 21 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]422992[/snapback]
You mean his ramblings have resulted in you throwing your old computer out the window allowing for the purchase of a shiny new one? wink.gif

Shouldn't you be busy with your studies young man?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 12:07:50
QUOTE(Ar1tch1e @ Mar 21 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]422991[/snapback]
That should keep us up

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mortonjag 2008-03-21 12:14:51
QUOTE(El gofer @ Mar 21 2008, 11:48 AM) [snapback]422984[/snapback]
I must hear the songs!!! Are they quaint madrigals, or quirky little rolf harris numbers or just plain thrash metal??

They are horrific-gofer-truly horrific-the lyrics are fine and the choons are fine-I just can't sing!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 12:25:38
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Mar 21 2008, 12:23 PM) [snapback]422999[/snapback]
I wish you'd hurry up and finish it lol

Do you REALLY want me to die after all the things I've done for you.

People are SO ungrateful.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 12:29:17
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 21 2008, 12:26 PM) [snapback]423001[/snapback]
Ha ha, I don't live in Ghent. tongue.gif

Rather worryingly though, the rest of it was spot on. unsure.gif

That's the last time I PM you for medical advice MJ, so much for the Hypicritical Oath. mad.gif

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Brussels is more difficult-I started with Bruges-but I can only think of huge, and rouge-have a go if you like! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-21 12:34:17
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 21 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]423002[/snapback]
gotta agree with muz here. he does ruin the board. has to post on every f***ing thread.

piss off mortonjag and take newton and thom with you. you could all get in an old bath and skite down a hill into the distance a la last of the summer wine.

Ageism is not permitted on this board.

Are you aware of that?

Do you support the concept of non discrimination against minority groups?

Now f*ck off you young whippersnapper before I tan your little pink bottie to within an inch of your life.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 14:19:09
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 21 2008, 12:39 PM) [snapback]423007[/snapback]
i'm not an ageist in the slightest. i just hate boring c***s

Then stop.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 14:20:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 21 2008, 12:40 PM) [snapback]423008[/snapback]
1200 words towards the dissertation written today. All I need, going out in Glasgow tonight so don't want to overdo it wink.gif

Why is it called a dissertation and not a dissertion?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 14:29:00
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 20 2008, 09:31 PM) [snapback]422753[/snapback]
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After thousands upon thousands of monotonous postings by NewTon, he has finally made me laugh.

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newt is a funny man.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 14:33:38
QUOTE(BriTONS @ Mar 21 2008, 01:15 PM) [snapback]423015[/snapback]
Something we would all love to do!

Fraid not-some folk just don't 'dig' motors. I takes all kinds.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 14:34:52
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 21 2008, 01:11 PM) [snapback]423013[/snapback]
God rest her soul. Thanks for that trip down memory lane MJ.

Is she deid?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 14:39:17
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 21 2008, 02:07 PM) [snapback]423029[/snapback]
I think you are missing the point - if they continue to play their games, their net assets, assuming they have any, will decrease further. If they are paying out wages and police costs, ground hire etc, and their income from crowds of a few hundred is less than their outgoings, they are trading insolvently. Also, the longer this goes on, the higher are the administrator's fees (and they always get first call on any assets). I can see why the administrators want to keep going as their meter is running all the time, but it is not in the interests of the creditors to continue after Sunday.

Liquidation (I think) means they stop trading and close down. If there are any assets, they are divvied up. If there are fewer assets, we get less. Ergo, the sooner they stop, the better (except for the administrators).

Is this current action by the SPL going to put one more penny in the creditors' pockets. If not, they should be wound up now. No sane person is going to take them over as a going concern.

Greed, graft, and Gretna FC.

RIP
mortonjag 2008-03-21 14:41:14
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Mar 21 2008, 02:37 PM) [snapback]423040[/snapback]
No wonder she was struggling to breath in those f***ers! I think anyone would!

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Most folk breathe through the nose/mouth! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-21 14:47:46
QUOTE(Sammario @ Mar 21 2008, 02:44 PM) [snapback]423044[/snapback]
Nae offence to Alibi who has more than a vested interest so his standpoint is natural but I dont like the fact so many want Gretna to go to the wall. I sincerely hope a buyer does come forward, even if they drop to the third division. I don't want to see any team go out of business.

Taking any joy from Gretna's situation is in very poor taste IMO.

It's natural to feel sorry for the handful of bumpkins who preceded Mileson. It's equally natural IMO to want the arses of the rest reamed to f*ck.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 14:49:51
QUOTE(GreatKingRat @ Mar 21 2008, 02:46 PM) [snapback]423046[/snapback]
You can't control it, baby, all the women are wild for me.

Choking to death she 'whipped' those things off. She must be some performer when fully fit!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 14:57:34
QUOTE(GreatKingRat @ Mar 21 2008, 02:52 PM) [snapback]423050[/snapback]
She wore those pants, couldn't breathe and then whipped then off?

Sounds more like erotic asphyxiation gone wrong than anything else.

Stephen Milligan rides again!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 14:59:19
QUOTE(BriTONS @ Mar 21 2008, 02:55 PM) [snapback]423052[/snapback]
ok maybe not all off us but getting paid good money to drive cars about and muck around seems great.

Indeed, but some folk miss the point that those guys are very skilled.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 15:14:00
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 21 2008, 03:07 PM) [snapback]423057[/snapback]
Not if by being in administration they are making matters worse. Say at the moment their assets (the ground possibly) are enough to pay creditors 10p in the £. By the end of the season that could be 1p in the £. They could (probably will) be liquidated at the end of the season, so why not just cut their losses and do it now? Not that that would suit the SPL of course but that shouldn't be a factor.

Precisely.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 18:09:21
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 21 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]423067[/snapback]
She sadly is I'm afraid. sad.gif

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Hilary White from Petts Wood Orpington Kent with the yellow bikini is really dead Spurtle. Are you sure?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 18:18:10
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 21 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]423066[/snapback]
I think the board would be a poorer place without the jag. We've not always seen eye to eye, and God knows there's times when I think he must be the most stubborn man in the entire universe, then I remember who's just about to type a response and tell him he's wrong !!!!

Nope, love him or loathe him, the board would be a duller place without him. BTW, putting him on ignore makes things worse, cos then you secretly peek to see what he's written anyway - I tried ignore for less than one day, despite telling him otherwise - cos some of his posts are comic gold and some of them are just common sense, and some are just inflamatory and thought provoking andsome of them are complete gawk - whats not to like. Like every other person on the board, not every single post of his has me making a mess of my knickers, but so what. I'm sure only 75% of mine make you all cream yourself laugh.gif laugh.gif

BTW MJ, went to the quack (see threads passim) and he feels not a lot to worry about - huge weight off my mind ! Need a PSA test whatever the feck that is - more worryingly was his request to go for a colonscopy because of my mother (not because of me) - although he assures me its purely proactive thing to do. And by the way, a finger up the hole is torture, despite the fact he assured me everything was in good shape. Easy for him to say when he's just established base camp in my farter - athough it was his push for the summit which took the wax out of my ears. Seems to think the fact I was drinking about two litres of diet juice was a big part of the problem - I thought it was helping me - he tells me that it's the fastest route to Diabetes - which made no sense cos I thought they had no sugars in them - go figure.

Anyway, last four days been on flavoured water only - guess what - only one pish stop one night !!

See, just like MJ, I managed to flip from TTG MJ to night time pish stops seamlessly.

TTG TID - what a cúnt !

TonInDublin

Well done! I don't know about the diet drinks and diabetes either but I'm out of date. PSA-a blood test to measure the level of prostate specific antigen. It's not a great help in isolation but once he's established your baseline value, any significant future rise could be a warning of early prostate problems.

A yardstick, if you will, like Spurtle's dick.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 18:21:02
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Mar 21 2008, 04:18 PM) [snapback]423070[/snapback]
TBH No Id not wish that on anyone (Well Maybe Hu** Sc***) but I am curious to what you have done for me lol

Encouraged you to widen the circle of your friends rather than concentrate on Mr Raes! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-21 18:23:27
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 21 2008, 04:47 PM) [snapback]423083[/snapback]
I had to endure that once in France for no particular reason. It was just a routine check-up for a life insurance policy so I was expecting the usual urine sample, blood pressure and reflexes malarkey. But before I knew it I was lying on my side in the faetal position wondering if I was going to be on the next epsode of 'You've Been Framed'.

What made it slightly less unpleasant was the fact our doctor was female and not unattractive. However she also lived in the same village and her daughter was in the same school class as my daughter.

Try indulging in polite chit-chat at the school gates with someone who just a couple of hours earlier had their finger up your poop shute. If you've never experienced that, and I don't suppose many of you have, then let me tell you it's most disconcerting.

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You SURE that was a finger and a female?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 18:24:57
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 21 2008, 05:46 PM) [snapback]423098[/snapback]
I can also let you have my recipe for five minute fairy cakes, if you like fairy cakes or baking.
Perhaps he likes 5 minute fairies ?

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More of a seven dwarves man I'd say Newt.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 18:39:21
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 21 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]423071[/snapback]
In theory it might as

1) If the administrator can secure a sale of the club which realises extra money, they might. Unlikely, I agree.

2) The administrator cannot act in way which is prejudicial to creditors and so if Alibi really wants to force the issue he could consider an application to court asserting that in using the SPL money to fund ongoing costs and wages, he is denying creditors the benefit of those funds. For that to stick , it would have to be established that the TV money etc., would be due to Gretna whether they complete their fixtures or not. I suspect they would probably be in breach of contract and the SPL could withhold payment on that basis



The administrator obviously has a difficult task trying to 'keep everybody happy'. I wouldn't suggest for a minute that he would dream of deliberately acting unprofessionally, but there are ways and means of exerting unfair pressure on people of integrity, and the SPL is a powerful lobby.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 18:50:20
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 21 2008, 05:28 PM) [snapback]423094[/snapback]
I suspect that you are Douglas Rae's arch nemesis. Differing points of view yet so alike. Just as Dougie does is good at it, you are a master at ignoring the crux of people's posts and instead deflecting attention on to small, trivial points. As for comparing me to an estate agent, well that is somewhat beneath my years of study and a ratherpathetic attempt at an insult.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH-touchy tonight-aren't we-go get a wee drink-then READ what I wrote over again-NICE AND SLOWLY.

You'll also find a wee clue in a comment made to DE! wink.gif

I'm used to my profession being slagged off on this board indiscriminately Ratarse, and I wouldn't do that to you.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 19:05:50
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 21 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]423133[/snapback]
Colkitto - that actually made me laugh out loud. Please desist from being humorous and likeable instantly sir.

MJ - you really DID walk into that one.

TonInDublin

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Bannock baws has indeed a sense of humour when apolitical.

The said Hilary White had ambitions to become an actress (hence my being dragged to the cinema).

Many, many years later, I discovered purely by chance that she was personal secretary to an eminent London Forensic Pathologist.

Then again-all the world's a stage-I'm sure somebody famous said that quite recently! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-21 19:08:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 21 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]423135[/snapback]
And I'm not allowed meat cos she won't let me,

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Gidday TID and Teacher Tom,

So, is it down from 52 Fridays per annum to just one ?

IMHO, an amazing superstition.

The locals of Mediterranean extraction buy tonnes of seafood this weekend.

They tell me that it is something to do with the moon being full.

My grandfather told me in 1963 that it was a commercial deal done between some bloke in Rome and Macfisheries.

The deal must have fallen through in later years, as I couldn't find Macfisheries in 2006.

They were near West Blackhall Street ??

That was where my Auntie Kate and Auntie Jenny became friends, though my Auntie Kate wasn't really my Auntie.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 19:11:41
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 21 2008, 06:29 PM) [snapback]423119[/snapback]
Cheers MJ - yeah he reckoned that given I'm only 41, then the chances of anything other than drinking habits at night time and the large consumption of what he termed "complete s***e soft drinks" is absolutely minimal. Confirmed that to a large extent by lodging his ring finger up my bakie, pressing and testing the stomach/abdomen and generally rummaging around where my breakfast was meant to exit. He seemed happy enough.

Which was more than could be said for me. I felt violated.

His take on the diet/low cal drinks was that although they are "sugar free" they are loaded with all manner of other s***e which is equally bad for you - indeed he was saying some of them interchange the word "sugar" with "sucrose" - but they may be loaded with fructose/glucose etc. More importantly he reckoned the artificial sweeteners/preservatives/flavourings etc are of no use to man nor beast, especailly when I'm doing about 14-20 litres of it a week. So flavoured water it is then ! Glad I went though. No idea what a colonoscopy is and I'm pretty f***ing certain I don't want to ! Cheers again.

TonInDublin

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mortonjag 2008-03-21 19:17:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 21 2008, 07:13 PM) [snapback]423142[/snapback]
OK, mortonjag, we want the truth.

Did Auntie Kate do a Hilary White and take you to the Gaumont to lead you astray in the back stalls.

Or was it at the Odean ?

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Nothing so grand I'm afraid though she knew all about pelvic floor mussels and her fish cakes were beautifully formed - and firm with it.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 19:20:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 21 2008, 06:20 PM) [snapback]423112[/snapback]
Actress Winona Ryder has once again been caught leaving a store with goods she hadn't paid for, according to a report.

The 36-year-old star left a Hollywood store with a bag of make-up that she had bought, but set off a security alarm on the way out, the National Enquirer reported.

But when a security guard at the Hollywood CVC Pharmacy checked her bag, he reportedly found other make-up items she had not paid for.

"I don't know how that happened" Ryder reportedly said.

The magazine quoted a store employee, who said Ryder gave the unpaid-for items back before leaving the store.

Ryder was caught stealing $6000 of clothes from a boutique in Beverly Hills six years ago and was sentenced to 480 hours of community services.

She claimed at the time she was preparing for a film role

She needs your help, mate.



I wonna rider-tonight's bananasgram
mortonjag 2008-03-21 19:25:19
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 21 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]423138[/snapback]
I don't know this man and can make no comment against him. With regard to your comment in general though, you've obviously never been in the insolvency profession, especially in England. Having work both North and South of the border, though, the Scottish profession is a lot cleaner than South of the border.

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There are naughty boys in every profession then?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 19:45:44
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 21 2008, 07:36 PM) [snapback]423154[/snapback]
Yeah I won't miss it Iain - short term pain and all that. In fairness to him the only reason he wants me to get one is because my mother died of cancer. She had cancer in her liver/bowel/stomach and pretty much went through the rest of her body, God rest her. However, she was smoking between 40-60 a day since she was14 till she died aged 64. My dad died at 80 of pneumonia, with his body weakened by shingles - and the doc said he had the heart and lungs of an ox. He was also a very heavy smoker - 40 capstain full strength (throwback to his navy days) - and he wanted them stronger so he "cured" them at the fire before smoking them !

I've had lots of bad habits, but fortunatley I've never smoked - I bought ten regal king size on my first night out drinking with the lads - I was seventeen. Smoked all ten in about forty five minutes then spent the rest of the night cradling the toilet bowl. Ill for days ! Never forget they were 50p for ten. Best 50p I ever spent. Didn't touch them since - not even the wacky variety - the thought of smoking makes me puke.

Anyhoos - after his finger the thought of a wee mechanical beastie is nearly sexually arousing in comparison !

Don't know if I mentioned or not about my doctor, but he studied in Glasgow for a long period of time, and his team of choice was Partick Thistle, although he had another mate who was a Clyde fanatic so he spent part of the season at Shawfield as well. Reckons that following Morton is a worse disease than anything he could diagnose ! Cheeky cnut ! Actually, he's a sound lad.

TonInDublin

For some the word 'nearly' may be omitted TiD.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 19:52:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 21 2008, 07:23 PM) [snapback]423150[/snapback]
Did she take you back to her plaice ?

Indeed she often did-ground right, 24 Trafalgar St., if I recall correctly, where we'd dine upon tablet while Joey recited 'A Gordon for Me', and then she'd tuck me up cosily before sending me off to join the fairies with a tap of her magic rubber hammer.

She frequently lost her keys too.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 19:57:31
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 21 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]423162[/snapback]
This is my old car. This car means a lot to me as it was the last car my Dad had, I inherited it from him when he passed away in 1998.

If you click on it it comes up real good.

The tax disc is out of date.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 19:59:24
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 21 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]423164[/snapback]
this is another of my old cars, this time waiting to go on the Gourock - Dunoon ferry

I like the Ton scarf.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 20:08:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 21 2008, 07:57 PM) [snapback]423168[/snapback]
She frequently lost her keys too.

Whit ?

to her chasity belt ?

We've all heard that old excuse over the years.

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No no-the door keys-she was extremely absent minded. She had a list stuck to the inside of her door-something like...

Gas off

Cover on Joey's cage

Lights off

Spyhole to McClumphas closed

Shopping bag

etc

and always the last item in big bold letters was


REMEMBER KEYS..


....and she'd still forget them and handsome Mr McClumpha from next door would have to shoulder in her door again.

She always took him in for a cup of tea after that.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 20:57:40
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 21 2008, 08:08 PM) [snapback]423174[/snapback]
Yeah I won't miss it Iain - short term pain and all that. In fairness to him the only reason he wants me to get one is because my mother died of cancer.
Therefore, TiD, to cover his arse he has to uncover yours.

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Correct Newt-prevention is better than cure, and that's assuming cure will be possible!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 21:05:51
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 21 2008, 08:18 PM) [snapback]423175[/snapback]
here's another of my old cars , this is outside the marine bar..this was my first car''The Blue Bomber''

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mortonjag 2008-03-21 21:11:47
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 21 2008, 08:22 PM) [snapback]423176[/snapback]
This is outside Marks n Spencer in Greenock Town Centre in 1975. I'm the one my Dad is holding. Do you think I turned out to be as handsoe as my Dad ?
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDDoes this happen to ALL generations?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 21:16:49
QUOTE(Marc @ Mar 21 2008, 08:31 PM) [snapback]423178[/snapback]
A few days ago I was having some work done at my local garage. A blonde came in and asked for a seven-hundred-ten.
We all looked at each other and another customer asked, 'What is a seven-hundred-ten?'
She replied, 'You know, the little piece in the middle of the engine, I have lost it and need a new one..' She went on to say that she did not know exactly what it was, but this piece had always been there.
The mechanic gave her a piece of paper and a pen and asked her to draw what the piece looked like. She drew a circle and in the middle of it wrote 710. He then took her over to another car which had its hood up and asked 'Is there a 710 on this car?'
She pointed and said, 'Of course, its right there.'

If you're not sure what a 710 is Click Here
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Superb!

The real ones are always the funniest!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 21:21:12
QUOTE(Marc @ Mar 21 2008, 09:18 PM) [snapback]423199[/snapback]
It's not real laugh.gif I stole it from elsewhere rolleyes.gif

Still find it funny though

Well I kinda guessed that but it's BOUND to have happened! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-21 21:23:49
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 21 2008, 09:14 PM) [snapback]423195[/snapback]
Always nice to get one over on the Doc laugh.gif

....and this sexually deprived gentleman is eternally grateful for those infrequent scraps of consolation.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 21:27:56
QUOTE(McInally`s Monkey @ Mar 21 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]423185[/snapback]
Well tell us then

Is he deid?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 21:29:54
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Mar 21 2008, 08:58 PM) [snapback]423182[/snapback]
In the Daily Record today he has written his usual piece about Morton as he normally does only this time he has spouted some pish about Davie Irons not getting the team to do their 5 minute pre-second half warm up anymore after last weeks game.

He is quoted as saying "It may be Okay for a wee diddy side like Gretna, Davie, but it had everyone who supports Morton pulling their hair out"

Message to Mr Cochrane, the font of all Morton knowledge far and wide ............. I am one of those who follow Morton and I for one see this five minute warm up as one of the many positive things Davie and Derek are trying to impart on the team. Along with the honest and up front tactics Davie has shown sice coming to Morton, he gets my vote and I know many others see this as a positive from the new management. So in future pal when you have to write your drivel in the rag then please check with "everyone who supports Morton" before you choose to question them.

Mr McArthur will be along shortly, you Mancunian troublemaker. He'll sort you out for criticising him his 'friend'!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 21:48:54
QUOTE(Marc @ Mar 21 2008, 09:23 PM) [snapback]423202[/snapback]
Yeah, I'd imagine it has happened tongue.gif rolleyes.gif

Blonde at swimming lessons.

'I'm doing well'.

Instructor----puzzled---

'Why do you say that'?

Blonde----


'The last chap said I'd sink if he took his finger out'.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 21:51:34
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 21 2008, 09:42 PM) [snapback]423210[/snapback]
Don't try and play pedant games with me. wink.gif At least until you can get your wee were/where problem sorted out! tongue.gif

They are two players who've never played in the first division, that answers it enough for now... nothing to get excited about anyway!



QUOTE(Marc @ Mar 21 2008, 09:46 PM) [snapback]423211[/snapback]
Yes sir, I won't be late for my next lesson.

CHILDREN


Pink bottie time again!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 21:54:07
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 21 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]423208[/snapback]
He was killed by the Wemyss Bay mafia on a drive-through of Inverkip, and all you can do is f***ing joke about it. mad.gif

Shame on you.

Oh, and you'll never know McInally's Monkey as a result of mortonjag's insensitivity.

The Monkey's thoughts are with the family.


Frankly I don't give a f*ck.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 21:58:31
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Mar 21 2008, 09:48 PM) [snapback]423212[/snapback]
TV

Any Thought on this TV ? Is it worth the money ?

The speakers in the TV are crap so I also plan to buy myself a Home Cinema System to go with it

Scott, do you really imagine anybody who spent that kind of money on a 'box' is going to admit it's pure crap?


I merely pose the question!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:07:49
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 21 2008, 09:53 PM) [snapback]423218[/snapback]
It's a Vauxhall Astra formerly known as Opel Kadett.

Sadly I no longer have the photo of me standing on its roof with a Ton Scarf outside the turnstiles at Cappielow the day I bought it when I was 17.

Anyway, goodnight Mortonjag darling x

Diddums-are you absolutely CERTAIN about that-it may just be the angle of the 'foties', but I need to be convinced, and incidentally the Astra was marketed in Britain simultaneously with GM's European Kadett, a limited number of which were sold in Britain as 'upmarket' models.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:10:14
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 21 2008, 10:03 PM) [snapback]423223[/snapback]
I taught him.

Be fair young man-the hairy one got in first.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:11:24
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 21 2008, 09:59 PM) [snapback]423221[/snapback]
Gees a tenner.
I survived.

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mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:13:02 Oh-f*** THIS


Let princess take it!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:19:13
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 21 2008, 10:17 PM) [snapback]423233[/snapback]
Naw, I'll take it.

How often have you scored young man?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:20:58
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 21 2008, 10:15 PM) [snapback]423231[/snapback]
Whit?

Is it REALLY you-the Monkey is heavily impressed by your fortitude!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:24:10
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 21 2008, 10:21 PM) [snapback]423238[/snapback]
Another one - sunset off Wemyss Bay

Bloody hell Sir-do you reside anywhere near Cliff Terrace Road?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:27:10
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Mar 21 2008, 10:01 PM) [snapback]423222[/snapback]
Gee Thanks Very Much

You're very welcome and welcome to be my friend too!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:34:00
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 21 2008, 10:17 PM) [snapback]423234[/snapback]
Jesus MJ you're a ray of sunshine ! Now I think of it, it's TTG !

To re-iterate - I am not on my way out - nor am I sick. My prostate (based on him playing me like a glove puppet) is in good shape. All well up the chocolate speedway and no symptoms to suggest otherwise.

The colonoscopy (according to him) is a standard check in Ireland for anyone who has history of cancer in their family, but he did stress that given the lack of cancer in my father and the fact my mum smoked like a bloody beagle meant there is little or nowt to worry about.

And I'm not pishing like a horse any more. Well I am, but during daylight hours. The old John Thomas doesn't know what's happened to it - it's nearly got a suntan these last few days.

TonInDublin

My dear friend, I think this Irish charlatan is takin' you for a ride. Forget the tests-as my dearly departed Auntie Jessie (who fell under the wheels of a hearse at the tender age of five and a half) used to say----

'Whit's fur ye'll no go bye ye'!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:38:23
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 21 2008, 10:36 PM) [snapback]423251[/snapback]
My advice is don't bother with the new technology, in fact I reckon you're better off chucking the old crt set out the fecking window before you start. There's so much cack on the four cooncil channels never mind the umpteen choices of shoite you get with murdoch, branson or fecking whatever. There are alternatives you know, like music, reading, masturbation or, when all else fails, you can maybe try talking about something to someone.

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mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:42:15
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Mar 21 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]423244[/snapback]
i always felt every time they were only allowed a quarter segment of orange and sent out to stand about for 5 mins we got caught cold. I remember a couple o games the opposition scoring within 5 mins of the break due to our teams being over ready or bored stupid? for the second half, but scoring against us at scappa seems to be an 90 minute thing this year. At least a half time bollocking seemed to work last week so maybe if an under fire gaffer sends them out early in dribs and drabs its a sure fire way to dodge the boos and keep him sweet with the powers that be.

I can't help feeling that's very profound, and I haven't a clue why.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:44:06
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 21 2008, 10:41 PM) [snapback]423255[/snapback]
The beauty of living on the continent is that you're not restricted to UK Cooncil channels. Here you can watch pish from many different countries.

Hey-f*ck off you-I'm in love!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:47:00
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 21 2008, 10:35 PM) [snapback]423250[/snapback]
TTG everyc***.

Universal suicide pact-eh deego-can I have a wee think first?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:53:35
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 21 2008, 10:24 PM) [snapback]423240[/snapback]
I think so.

s***ebag!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:54:54
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 21 2008, 10:28 PM) [snapback]423245[/snapback]
Naw, it was me.

It was the Dong!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:57:37
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 21 2008, 10:25 PM) [snapback]423241[/snapback]
Haven't missed one, put it that way.

tongue.gif

Take your time son. What you do in haste you may regret at leisure!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:58:48
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 21 2008, 10:57 PM) [snapback]423268[/snapback]
Fud! smile.gif

Jobby
mortonjag 2008-03-21 23:00:48
QUOTE(piehutt @ Mar 21 2008, 10:56 PM) [snapback]423267[/snapback]
I'm sorry, but I really can't believe there are still people buying the Daily Retard!

Don't even take the free one's at the station.

Piehole-I find myself in rare agreement!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 23:03:33
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 21 2008, 11:00 PM) [snapback]423271[/snapback]
pish.

C'mon man-don't let the side down-we must maintain a minimal standard.


May I suggest keechenfahrt?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 23:06:21
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 21 2008, 10:46 PM) [snapback]423260[/snapback]
With yourself? Someone famous once said that it could be the beginning of a lifelong romance.

La folie a deux?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 23:07:27
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 21 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]423263[/snapback]
No I won't do that. That would put you out of your misery, too cruel a punishment for a Morrissey fan like yourself.

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mortonjag 2008-03-21 23:08:57
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 21 2008, 11:06 PM) [snapback]423281[/snapback]
Ach David, unlike yourself I'm a man of simple pleasures.

It doesn't make me a bad person. smile.gif

You are an evil c*nt.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 23:12:24
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 21 2008, 11:03 PM) [snapback]423275[/snapback]
Please elaborate before I throw myself under the self same fecking hearse !

TonInDublin

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Don't be morose TiD-as Shoogly would say-'Life is life-na na na na na- and Shoogly KNOWS!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 23:23:32
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 21 2008, 11:10 PM) [snapback]423286[/snapback]
Agreed partner. Hence my need to highlight the shortcomings of the Salmon and all of his ilk who feel free to trade our heritage for a few jobs or a few dollars. What's left when our freedom's been sold ?

TonInDublin

Claymore c*** irretrievably rammed up Bawheid's arse!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 23:26:33
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 21 2008, 11:22 PM) [snapback]423295[/snapback]
Piehutt must think he is superior to you because he doesnt buy one. But you know that isnt the case because his life isnt enrichened by Joan Burnie. wink.gif

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The mind boggles!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 23:28:53
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 21 2008, 11:05 PM) [snapback]423278[/snapback]
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Was that when the Provvy Man lived there instead of a bunch of Amrits sub-letting to all the Roma that Bucharest didnt want?



QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 21 2008, 11:13 PM) [snapback]423289[/snapback]
The big difference being that the Amrits and the Roma charge lower interest than the Provvy man ever did !

TonInDublin

Gentlemen-it was actually before both!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 23:36:57
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 21 2008, 11:18 PM) [snapback]423293[/snapback]
Although at €60 a visit, €80 next visit for blood test and the visit and >€350 for the wee machine up the bahookie I'm beginning to understand why most irish men have something wrong with their arses - seems they're being rode by the health service. Wouldn't mind but I still pay ~8% PRSI (National Health) - f*** knows why ! Prescription drugs are cost price - a course of antibiotics roughly €40. Gotta love it.

TonInDublin

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Sorry TiD, but,

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Maybe if you and Santa can put your heads together you can sort out the mess!


Radix malorum cupiditas est.


Not least when politicians get involved!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 23:44:58
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 21 2008, 11:37 PM) [snapback]423313[/snapback]
just get wrecked tid.

alcohol - the cause of and the solution to all life's problems wink.gif

For the alcoholic!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 23:50:17
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 21 2008, 11:46 PM) [snapback]423325[/snapback]
I sure hope that's what it is MJ !

For anyone else not au fait with the Latin, it roughly translates (I hope) to "greed is the root of all evil" or as I suspect MJ more succinctly means here "the love of money is the root of all evil".

Although if my Latin has started to go it'll be another €60 to find out why.

MJ's proposal quot erat demonstrandum I believe.

TonInDublin

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That's about the size of it TiD!

Mind you, I've always felt undertakers were a dead cert in the money stakes.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 23:52:05
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 21 2008, 11:47 PM) [snapback]423326[/snapback]
and is if by magic that c*** appears. stop following me. please.

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mortonjag 2008-03-21 23:59:09
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 21 2008, 11:52 PM) [snapback]423332[/snapback]
Ah f*** it, I'll play for a while.

Easy listening entry - meant a lot to me a few weeks ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKxnJ5iyC-w

TonInDublin

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mortonjag 2008-03-22 10:14:32
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 22 2008, 12:54 AM) [snapback]423401[/snapback]
that was the best joke i heard in 1997.

You had a superb sense of humour for a two year old.
mortonjag 2008-03-22 10:18:50
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 22 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]423531[/snapback]
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EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDSurely you meant 'catheter bag'.
mortonjag 2008-03-22 10:22:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 22 2008, 05:10 AM) [snapback]423500[/snapback]
A 79-year-old Polish man has been arrested for using a catapult to damage more than a dozen cars parked in front of his apartment block, judicial authorities said.

The man, who lives in the central Polish city of Kalisz, shot at the vehicles for more than a year until investigators were called in, said Janusz Walczak, a spokesman for the local prosecutor's office.

Walczak did not identify the man by name.

The elderly shooter reportedly told investigators that he had opted for the weapon long favoured by cheeky youngsters because he had been sick of the noise and pollution caused by the comings and goings of the cars.

His one-man campaign was brought to a halt after he was caught red-handed shooting at an Audi 80 and a Fiat Punto, thanks to a security camera installed by fellow residents.

Police who searched his home found two catapults and a bag of stones.

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Kalashnikov is my favoured weapon and I've never been caught.
mortonjag 2008-03-22 10:23:20
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 21 2008, 11:06 PM) [snapback]423281[/snapback]
Ach David, unlike yourself I'm a man of simple pleasures.

It doesn't make me a bad person. smile.gif

That's genetic.
mortonjag 2008-03-22 10:31:41
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Mar 22 2008, 06:35 AM) [snapback]423507[/snapback]
Ha Ha, looking forward to it.

Maybe Cochrane, Mr McArthur or Mr McArthur's mate would much rather we go back to McInally's playground attempts to allow players to exercise their right to play "hit the cross bar" during the warm ups?

I gave Mr Cochrane the board name of plankton, but he hasn't registered yet I see.
mortonjag 2008-03-22 10:35:42
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Mar 22 2008, 07:13 AM) [snapback]423516[/snapback]
Good day to you too NewTon,

I still have the Killie match recorded on Sky+ Best invention yet that thing I tell ya.

Jeezo I hate these early mornings, I am only up 'cos the little 'un (7 month old Daughter) decided she wanted to wake at 3.30am and stay awake for the last few hours. She has now gone off to sleep and I am wide awake - happy days.

Mybe JM had a 'little 'un who kept him awake all night-hence the lethargy.

Mind you 3+ years?
mortonjag 2008-03-22 10:44:15
QUOTE(BlueTube @ Mar 22 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]423530[/snapback]
2-1 Ton. McGuffie and Spoonsy. Wake comes on and knocks out a ballboy with a wayward drive at goal. Cappie finds his tail in one of the hot dogs and has a fight with the girl at the till as she wants full money for the hot dog before he gets his tail back. It's a terrible cat fight.
The mobile shop takes flight in the wind and ends up on a glacier in Greenland. The natives see the wooly hats and scarfs and think it's a miracle.

And dine on cold dogs for ever and ever.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 08:41:18
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Mar 22 2008, 10:40 AM) [snapback]423542[/snapback]
Moronjag

Looks more like a dick in a polo neck.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 08:43:37
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 22 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]423590[/snapback]
sad.gif i can't tell when people are being sarcastic anymore.

...and it hurts.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 08:44:39
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Mar 22 2008, 12:54 PM) [snapback]423604[/snapback]
Would you like a straw, sir?

Whose arse is it up at the moment?
mortonjag 2008-03-23 08:46:34
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 22 2008, 02:52 PM) [snapback]423640[/snapback]
Does anyone else find it Ironic that NewTon is trying to portray MortonJag as some kind of crackpot?

Excellent crackshot caputupanus.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 08:49:58
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 22 2008, 05:16 PM) [snapback]423711[/snapback]
That's the abstaining from meat bit.
Y' know. meat is murder but fish is only culpable homicide. wink.gif

There's a decent take on Fast and abstinence Her.

What about fish roe?
mortonjag 2008-03-23 08:54:14
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 22 2008, 05:47 PM) [snapback]423726[/snapback]
Indeed I do - a couple of minutes walk away!

AHA-my armchair Ton fan brother is one of your neighbours! He's a dick, though, nothing like me at all.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 08:58:12
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 22 2008, 07:20 PM) [snapback]423854[/snapback]
Absolutely, you think I dont know the make and model of my first car ?

It's a Vauxhall Astra, it was the year it became an Astra as it was previously known as an Opel Kadett.

It was a 1.2S. the S stood for ''Standard'' , but I always led may mates to believe it meant ''Sports''

I do recognise it now-they were around in the seventies. It may have been known as the 'Kadett' in Europe, but was ALWAYS the 'Astra' here, though, some 'up market' Kaddets were sold in Britain.

The Astra GTE of the early eighties was the closest anybody got to matching the VW Golf Gti in the early 'hot hatch' stakes.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 09:05:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 22 2008, 11:36 AM) [snapback]423574[/snapback]
I hope that you are not a resident nor citizen of the United States

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Chocolat camouflage.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 09:06:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 22 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]423577[/snapback]
I'm not miserable my friend and in fact had quite a bloody good grin on my face to be honest when I read it but just think there is a time and a place like down the pub not on a public forum. wink.gif
not on a public forum
Wot about in a public bar ?

a public convenience ?

a public conveyance ?

A pubic convention.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 09:08:08
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 22 2008, 02:47 PM) [snapback]423637[/snapback]
Ach, get over yourself ManchesterTon. It was a wee light hearted wisecrack that most of us thought was funny.

Little Fanny becomes Mensa member.



For all budding anatomists you cannot type va g i n a

That is CRASS in the extreme.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 09:18:21
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Mar 22 2008, 11:56 AM) [snapback]423582[/snapback]
While trawling these boards for a couple of hours since early hours this morning, I have stumbled upon a two occasions MJ where you have made reference to spanking bottoms .............

Is there something you feel the need to share with us my friend? wink.gif

I'm a firm believer in the spanking of little pink botties MT-I had my little pink bottie spanked a few times-it wasn't very pleasant-but my Mummy and Daddy thought it was good for me.

I believe the infrequent spanking of little pink botties to be socially beneficial, and would also willingly flog neds for charity.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 09:25:47
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 22 2008, 06:28 PM) [snapback]423757[/snapback]
... is much bigger than i thought it would be. our players aren't having a bad spell - they just aint good enough to compete at this level. i'll hold my hands up and say that i thought we would finish top half maybe top 4 but there really is a significant difference between 2nd division and 1st. quicker, more rough and tumble and a much better touch required. i think the standard in the first is grim regarding any entertainment value but we've been found out.

here's hoping we stagger over the line and rebuild in the summer


Seems like it.


QUOTE(Muz @ Mar 22 2008, 06:57 PM) [snapback]423805[/snapback]
I would hope that some of the players realise that maybe a few sessions on the weights in the next few weeks might help them- Stevenson and a few others get pushed off the ball FAR too easily.

Every week I see it- probs a good example is Chris Millar, myself and my mate are always saying he uses his upper body strength well- I wish more of them did and we may see a difference. Jenkins and McGuffie are big lads and get pushed off the ball far too easily.

Thoughts?


Neither Ryan nor Alan looked like SPL players yesterday-in a game where I thought their experience could have see us comfortably over the line.


QUOTE(C B @ Mar 22 2008, 07:18 PM) [snapback]423852[/snapback]
PLEASE DON'T START GETTING OUT PICS OF WAKE WITH HIS SHIRT OFF !!!


Young Deegan won't cope!


QUOTE(C B @ Mar 22 2008, 07:38 PM) [snapback]423891[/snapback]
Yes, he loves his pies, burger king, pizza hut, McyDs, Kentucky Fried Monkey, all the good healthy eating stuff !!!

Jamie is now off the Chrissie Card list.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 09:30:48
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 22 2008, 07:49 PM) [snapback]423897[/snapback]
The defence were excellent to a man today, OK there was the odd lapse but this is the Scottish first division. It was the guys upfront that let us down today. Greacan, Harding and MacGregor dealt with pretty much everything. Apart from his one dither where he gave the ball away, even McLaughlin played well and covered a lot of ground from left back right across the front of the centre halves and put in some important tackles. Weatherson was a waste of space and it's unfortunate given his undoubted talent and ability.

That'll be your opinion, I take it Ratarse?
mortonjag 2008-03-23 09:34:59
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Mar 22 2008, 09:46 PM) [snapback]423945[/snapback]
300 quid! Is that for the season?

Annual salary for a delivery boy.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 09:52:14
QUOTE(HousTON @ Mar 22 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]423756[/snapback]
What are these two all about? Mcguffie contributes very little and Jenkins doen't seem to give a toss. I can't see how these two came from the spl they are shocking. I would drop Mcguffie for Keenan next week and drop Jenkins for Millar assuming he is not injured. I am really dissapointed as i had hoped both of these players could have turned our season round.


Indeed
QUOTE(Lindberg6 @ Mar 22 2008, 06:38 PM) [snapback]423776[/snapback]
McGuffie and Jenkins have been major disappontments, for two guys that were playing in the premier league....no wonder gretna were getting humped every week!



If you were one of the other players seeing these guys come into the club on long contracts and mega money I think you would be entitled to feel a little aggrieved....

....i thought Jenkins performance was a disgrace today.




Don't know what's happened, but it was Irons who LET THEM GO.



QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 22 2008, 08:11 PM) [snapback]423911[/snapback]
Jenkins was excellent in the build up to Jim's goal. Other than that he was posted missing in the game.
McGuffie for some reason just has not settled at Cappielow. I thought he showed signs of the player we thought we had when he came on against Thistle.
Today he was just simply rank rotten. And I find it amazing he played in the SPL on his performances so far.

Walker must be due a run in the centre of midfield. And Miller will walk back into the team(thankfully).


We were well on top yesterday, and could still have blown it in the last ten minutes.

Are we EVER going to sign an 'experienced' player who can influence the game positively?
mortonjag 2008-03-23 09:59:41 Jimbo is a conundrum-not a striker by a long chalk, and NEVER a winger in a million years.

I'd describe him as an energetic and thrustful workhorse.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 10:01:14
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 23 2008, 09:44 AM) [snapback]424081[/snapback]
Er yes. As opposed to who else's opinion?

Good.

Just happened to glance at today's 'Mail' and it rates Spponsy 9, Jimbo 8, and the rest mainly 7's.

...and before you reply-those ratings are normally keech-but just thought I'd mention anyway!
mortonjag 2008-03-23 11:14:22
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 23 2008, 08:46 AM) [snapback]424057[/snapback]
What did I miss?

Somebody threw a hammer at David McGregor.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 11:20:07
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 23 2008, 10:13 AM) [snapback]424090[/snapback]
I think that's the point. wink.gif

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Mortonjag NEVER wears polo necks.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 11:21:11
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Mar 23 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]424101[/snapback]
Jesus didn't exist.

Neither does beermonkey.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 14:08:23
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 23 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]424092[/snapback]
You can still text me. It costs me an arm and a leg to text back tho'

Is the cell cold?
mortonjag 2008-03-23 14:15:59
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Mar 23 2008, 01:18 PM) [snapback]424129[/snapback]
It's getting a bit more difficult for Irons to pick his team IMO, so that's an improvement at the least.

Although one of the only changes I would make is to bring Millar in for McGuffie.

McGuffie was back helping the defence-his height DID help there yesterday.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 14:23:26 Made me want to kick f*ck out of him.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 14:26:28
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 23 2008, 11:25 AM) [snapback]424108[/snapback]
Normal service resumed. cool.gif
Forza Kimi!
Massa really is a terrible driver: I expect Alonso to replace him next season.
8 tenths of a second quicker - not even James Allen's promotion of Hamilton from 6th to 5th and 5th to 4th can't hide total domination.
Barring unreliability, Kimi will walk this title.

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..but quite a wealthy young man!
mortonjag 2008-03-23 14:29:28 Many happy returns.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 14:38:10 Hmm-I thought the criticism he was taking before was way OTT, just as is this praise. He did nothing yesterday that McGurn coudn't have done-well apart from the stunningly pointless acrobatics.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 14:40:38
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 23 2008, 02:19 PM) [snapback]424167[/snapback]
it's been baltic since I got to Jersey. b*****ds told me it was sunny down here

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mortonjag 2008-03-23 14:42:02
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Mar 23 2008, 02:23 PM) [snapback]424169[/snapback]
I didn't say otherwise.

But Millar offers a lot more than he does. The only player McGuffie could shift in that team is McLaughlin.

Midge is lighter.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 14:45:26 It's a results driven business. I thought DI/DC looked like a couple of windmills on speed yesterday!
mortonjag 2008-03-23 15:13:38
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 23 2008, 02:54 PM) [snapback]424183[/snapback]
Just heard on the radio Rangers have bought all the tickets for the next away game in the UEFA cup and will give them away free to fans who are considered entitled to them from travelling abroad previously.

Will cost about £51,000 to the club but what a fantastic gesture!

Could this set a precedent for the future?

Aye the Ton could copy them in the near future.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 15:19:08
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 23 2008, 03:08 PM) [snapback]424185[/snapback]
Any relation to Erica Roe?

Standing room only at the Willow!
mortonjag 2008-03-23 15:22:52
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 23 2008, 02:50 PM) [snapback]424181[/snapback]
McInally sat with his hands in his pockets, now the new guys look like "windmills on speed".

Can anyone ever win?!

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mortonjag 2008-03-23 15:25:53
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Mar 23 2008, 02:49 PM) [snapback]424179[/snapback]
Far from his best and can do better and hope he does improve but i think he is carrying an injury at the moment yesterday was a big chance for him and he showed nothing

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Our all new management team is fielding crocks knowingly?
mortonjag 2008-03-23 15:28:13
QUOTE(standman @ Mar 23 2008, 03:12 PM) [snapback]424188[/snapback]
I've been critical of Lee however yesterday was an accomplished performance.

His handling of cross balls was very secure, his distribution much improved and some great saves.

I'd have no complaints if he maintained this sort of form until the end of the season.

I'm not disputing that, but how many saves did he have to make yesterday?
mortonjag 2008-03-23 15:32:29
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 23 2008, 03:25 PM) [snapback]424194[/snapback]
Hmmm, that's a lot of anger you have there MJ.



QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 23 2008, 03:29 PM) [snapback]424197[/snapback]
At least the boy has a sense of humour , he was taking stick from the Sinclair Street when he turned round and blew us a kiss . Shut the heckler right up

Pufe in (orange) boots.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 15:35:00
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 22 2008, 07:28 PM) [snapback]423872[/snapback]
to see you, to see you f***ing nice?

-LCM to shagging neighbours laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-23 16:03:35
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 21 2008, 05:07 PM) [snapback]423086[/snapback]
The question was conveniently side stepped with JM taking the blame . Considering his decisions have got us ino this mess the guy had a serious point at how the board ( Dougie ) could have backed him up for so long .

Again Dougie split he season into four proclaiming he 1st half of the season a success ???? Should have reminded him its where we end the season that matters .
Once eams like QOTS and Dunfermline got a few results we'd be slipping down the table .

Indeed, honest Mr Rae, Greenock's answer to George Washington-remember the man who pled on bended knee with JM to stay, and described him in glowing hyperbole, as he left? The same man who DIDN'T have a go at the home fans-well only three of them.

Here's his take on Wednesday's 'forum'. (from yesterday's Shoogly Peg)

'Altogether it was a worthwhile get-together although there were a few gripes which dealt with past failings. Efforts were made by the panel to keep things positive and to look ahead rather than dwell on matters from the past which could no longer be influenced.'



'Matters from the past which could no longer be influenced indeed, Shoogly'

JM is dead-long live JM!!!
mortonjag 2008-03-23 16:12:13
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 23 2008, 03:59 PM) [snapback]424207[/snapback]
What's that got to do with anything? blink.gif

Football panto
mortonjag 2008-03-23 16:14:30
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 23 2008, 03:45 PM) [snapback]424203[/snapback]
We have taken the lead against the opposition in four of the last six games (St Johnstone, Clyde, Stirling and Livvy) and only won one of them. We just don't seem to be able to kill teams when we are on top.

I thought yesterday, Livvy looked fitter than us in the last 20 minutes. Anyone else think that?

On a positive note, I think that we are getting harder to beat under Irons and Collins and a few of the teams we have still to play may find us a bit different from earlier in the season.

I think we're fit-don't confuse lack of desire with lack of fitness.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 16:16:42
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 23 2008, 04:14 PM) [snapback]424221[/snapback]
Oh no it isn't....
...I'll get ma coat! tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-23 16:22:31
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 23 2008, 04:15 PM) [snapback]424224[/snapback]
We seemed fitter than Thistle last week though.
I blame the table tennis.

Aye right-crafty old Corky-eh!
mortonjag 2008-03-23 16:24:34
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 23 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]424220[/snapback]
Still doesn't make it right, mind.

Rangers aren't doing this out the kindness of their hearts, they're a business. That money will be made back somehow....not that I'm cynical or anything dry.gif tongue.gif

But if it happened at Cappielow-- laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-23 16:28:44
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 23 2008, 04:23 PM) [snapback]424229[/snapback]
I see neddism transcends all ages. rolleyes.gif

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDHow DARE you superimpose such a ugly piece of headgear on my handsome frame?
mortonjag 2008-03-23 16:42:09
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 22 2008, 08:31 PM) [snapback]423922[/snapback]
vibrators and inflateable sheep.

I like the Old Bank Bar, I still like the Jimmy Watt too though.

I know an old goat I'd love to blow up.

QUOTE(stuart @ Mar 22 2008, 09:22 PM) [snapback]423932[/snapback]
Did your fiance enjoy the game today?

fiancee?


...or was the inflatable sheep bit a clue?
mortonjag 2008-03-23 16:44:23
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 23 2008, 12:33 PM) [snapback]424119[/snapback]
it's abject mate. effects aint all that good and the plot and dialogue are embarrassing sad.gif

Have you ever watched 'Carry on up the Khyber'?
mortonjag 2008-03-23 16:46:06
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 23 2008, 04:40 PM) [snapback]424235[/snapback]
Me too, might have went OTT with the abuse I was giving him as the steward was going to chuck me out if I shouted anything else. laugh.gif

You're clearly into the more hunky ones young Deegan!
mortonjag 2008-03-23 17:04:42
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 23 2008, 04:57 PM) [snapback]424245[/snapback]
This is indeed a Gaberlunzie song.

LION ON THE GOLD
(Gordon Menzies)

For most of my life I have wandered the world
Through manys a nation with flags all unfurled
But in all of my travels no prouder flag I've found
Than the red rampant lion of the golden ground
It's the red rampant lion of Scotland

North by the Shetlands and South by the Tweed
It's honored forever in story and deed
First into battle it always could be found
The red rampant lion of the golden ground
It's the red rampant lion of Scotland

We've lost men at Floodin, at Flanders and Spain
More Culloden and El Alimain
But we've never been conquered and still we rally round
The red rampant lion of the golden ground
It's the red rampant lion of Scotland

The thistle is bonny when flowering alone
But whaur dare to meddle, she'll cut to the bone
And to Scotland my darling, me heart is ever bound
By the red rampant lion of the golden ground
It's the red rampant lion, the lion of Scotland
A Scotland united and free

Truth is Spurtle that the thistle is an ugly purple headed weed, but that's poetic licence, I guess!
mortonjag 2008-03-23 17:05:53
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 23 2008, 04:58 PM) [snapback]424247[/snapback]
MMMM.

...altesers
mortonjag 2008-03-23 17:08:25
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Mar 23 2008, 04:59 PM) [snapback]424248[/snapback]
Final nail in the coffin? rolleyes.gif

f*** THE SPL
mortonjag 2008-03-23 17:09:56
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Mar 23 2008, 04:56 PM) [snapback]424244[/snapback]
What about all the people who forked out £45 on that washed out rag for this season? Will they be getting a discount, don't see anyone else floffing their current top for £15. mad.gif

Were they not supposed to have been Nike until somebody f*cked up yet again?
mortonjag 2008-03-23 17:11:30
QUOTE(piehutt @ Mar 23 2008, 05:08 PM) [snapback]424260[/snapback]
I would assume SPL rules ensure that matches must be all ticket? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Certainly a laugh out loud moment.

Wonder how much Pearcy boy made after he paid the lecky?
mortonjag 2008-03-23 17:13:32
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 23 2008, 05:07 PM) [snapback]424256[/snapback]
He did make an arse of his first save and we would have been 1-0 down if not for Scott McLaughlin heading clear on the line.

....and they hit the woodwork twice!
mortonjag 2008-03-23 17:14:58
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Mar 23 2008, 05:12 PM) [snapback]424266[/snapback]
Yes, ended up with Buhkta, crap quality.

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Thorntons don't market Fudgy Wudgys!
mortonjag 2008-03-23 17:16:34
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Mar 23 2008, 05:12 PM) [snapback]424264[/snapback]
They must be desperate to get at least even a feeble notion of a travelling support.

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35.000 at Almondvale today Micky boy!
mortonjag 2008-03-23 17:18:37 [quote name='puggsy_ton' post='424269' date='Mar 23 2008, 05:15 PM']Very poor turnout from the Celtic fans. Week before an Old Firm game and still in the hunt for the league you really would have expected more of them to turnout!
Greatest fans on earth my erse!



Only a demented fool could think that.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 17:21:19
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Mar 23 2008, 05:19 PM) [snapback]424274[/snapback]
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Did i spell it wrong? unsure.gif

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No!
mortonjag 2008-03-23 18:11:16
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 23 2008, 05:23 PM) [snapback]424277[/snapback]
Don't agree Doc, I like the thistle, think it looks fab

And it's a flowering plant wink.gif

Undesirable flowering plant-a.k.a. weed, thistle thighs.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 18:15:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 23 2008, 05:45 PM) [snapback]424291[/snapback]
The administrator cannot act in way which is prejudicial to creditors and so if Alibi really wants to force the issue he could consider an application to court asserting that in using the SPL money to fund ongoing costs and wages, he is denying creditors the benefit of those funds.
Well, the pathetic crowd of 3,561 against Celtic must surely make it easier for Alibi to prove the financial absurdity of continuing to trade.

wot can they expect against Inverness Caley on 5 April ?

2 men and a dog ?

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The OF have now played an equal number of fixtures against the bumpkins-the Administrator's task has been accomplished I'd guess! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-23 18:21:21
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Mar 23 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]424298[/snapback]
Apparently the Smeltic fans started waving money at the Gretna keeper in the second half laugh.gif

Punts or Euros?
mortonjag 2008-03-23 18:28:10
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 23 2008, 06:24 PM) [snapback]424317[/snapback]
We have now changed our wedding reception the the Dockers Club.

I didn't realise but my dad was a founder member of the Dockers Club.

Fortunately there was a cancellation and we managed to snap it up. We have had to bring our wedding forward by a week though. It will now be on Friday 23rd May.

Congratulations-that is my daughter's 28th birthday!
mortonjag 2008-03-23 18:29:44
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Mar 23 2008, 06:26 PM) [snapback]424319[/snapback]
Voted once he settles he will be good, but I don't know. I think he has a severe attitude problem TBH.

Surely something Mr Irons would have fixed by now? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-23 18:32:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 23 2008, 06:28 PM) [snapback]424323[/snapback]
Is this likely to be true ?

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LONDON — At one point, Alexis Hall had more than 50 pairs of designer shoes and handbags.

It never occurred to the 39-year-old media relations executive from Glasgow that her £31,500 debt would be a problem.

“It was so easy to get the loans and the credit that you almost think the goods are a gift from the shop,†she said. “You don’t fully realize that it’s real money you are spending until you actually sit down and consolidate your bills and then it’s a shock.â€

As the United States economy weakens, many Americans are being overwhelmed by personal debt, but Britons are even more profligate. For most of the last decade, consumers here went on a debt-financed spending spree that made them the most indebted rich nation in the world, racking up a record £1.4 trillion in debt — more than the country’s gross domestic product.

By comparison, personal debt in the United States is $13.8 trillion, including mortgage debt, slightly less than the country’s $14 trillion G.D.P.

And while the Federal Reserve in Washington has cut interest rates, in an effort to loosen lenders’ grip on credit, the Bank of England’s interest rate increases last year are trickling through to mortgages at the very time home values are dropping and banks are becoming more reluctant to lend.

Sounds almost like the one time Raydale dressing room.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 18:34:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 23 2008, 06:31 PM) [snapback]424326[/snapback]
no punts in Dublin in July 2006 - only Euros, mate

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Once a *unt always a *unt!
mortonjag 2008-03-23 18:36:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 23 2008, 06:33 PM) [snapback]424328[/snapback]
you are a bad bad man.

too much time at Pishley Grammar ?

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Watch this space newt- Gre£na have been up and down faster than a wh*re's breeks this last week!
mortonjag 2008-03-23 18:40:36
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 23 2008, 06:35 PM) [snapback]424330[/snapback]
Based purely on yesterday's game McLaughlin would not be dropped to accommodate McGuffie. Bar one dithering moment McLaughlin played well.

He gets through a power of work, and reads the game early. He can also get himself to within shooting distance of goal when he tries-then usually spoils it all. I think the boy will still improve with coaching.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 19:34:42
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 23 2008, 07:21 PM) [snapback]424365[/snapback]
Attending a fancy dress party? unsure.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-23 19:37:25
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Mar 23 2008, 06:56 PM) [snapback]424344[/snapback]
Agree. I felt when the big defender Tinkler was beginning to struggle we should have started to run at him with pace. I knew as soon as Tinkler went off that was the last chance we could have scored.

Piss awful?
mortonjag 2008-03-23 19:39:45
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 23 2008, 06:57 PM) [snapback]424346[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-03-23 19:42:33
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 23 2008, 06:46 PM) [snapback]424335[/snapback]
you're blaming robinson for them hitting the woodwork? blink.gif

Well he didn't stop it happening-has he got a built in micrometer gauge?
mortonjag 2008-03-23 19:44:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 23 2008, 06:52 PM) [snapback]424341[/snapback]
you really need to find a new way to show that you have no reasonable answer to someones question.

the blink.gif while pretending not to understand is getting tiresome.

at least pick a new smilie. tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-23 19:48:07 We're not getting relegated-END OF!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 06:32:07
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 23 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]424389[/snapback]
they were both unstoppable shots, although Robinson does seem to go down in slow motion when a shot is along the ground.

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mortonjag 2008-03-24 06:34:43
QUOTE(Tontaster @ Mar 23 2008, 09:48 PM) [snapback]424408[/snapback]
I think wake is getting better along with the other players like greacen and robinson i think all wake needs now is a goal hopefully that will get his confidece up and he will start banging them in. smile.gif

Wakey Wakey
mortonjag 2008-03-24 06:36:33
QUOTE(craigeton @ Mar 23 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]424425[/snapback]
Mcguffie is very poor but Jenkins is a disgrace. He won't even go for 60 / 40 tackles in his favour never mind 50 / 50.
Was absolutely useless yesterday in the second half. The position Morton are in just now we need everyone working for the team to get us out of the mire. Jenkins is a passenger and shouldn't be near the team next week.

Not according to the Livvy fans!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 06:44:00
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 23 2008, 07:56 PM) [snapback]424386[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

I suggest you try to practice the the Law of Allowing

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You will probably live longer.

But, you already know that.

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http://law-of-attraction-info.com/allow.html



When you understand these principles and put them to use consciously and deliberately, you put yourself in a place of non-resistance. How do you know if you're allowing? By noticing how you feel . Your emotions are always your guide. Whenever you are in a place of feeling good, you are in a place of allowing. Nothing is more important than that you feel good!


I'd feel good if I booted f*ck out of......


QUOTE(scott_lithgows @ Mar 23 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]424393[/snapback]
With the black strip on,he reminded me of
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.....That f*ckin' duck


QUOTE(cappielowking @ Mar 23 2008, 11:30 PM) [snapback]424439[/snapback]
Those orange boots are the current nike ones theyre meant to be tough above the toe to offer some protection against metaursal breakage so I'd rather that than our players breaking metaursals



....and what about the peroxide?

Is it for his plooky heid?
mortonjag 2008-03-24 06:48:32
QUOTE(John_1959 @ Mar 23 2008, 09:24 PM) [snapback]424405[/snapback]
From the interview with the Gretna administrator after the Celtic game, he seems to think that Gretna will survive to be relegated, and play in div 1 next season. His comments to "chico" were..... " They played in that division last season, at Raydale, so why not again ?"

No matter what, my season ticket will be bought again....... no matter where

The administrator is now a liability for the creditors-he's merely pandering to SPL pressure and the whim that some bigger clown than Mileson may spash cash. He doesn't really expect Gretna to survive any more tham I do.

Into the big liquidiser NOW I demand.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 06:50:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 23 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]424399[/snapback]
25% think that mortonjag is a realist whose views should be respected.

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75% are fools!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 06:52:34
QUOTE(Lifelongfan @ Mar 24 2008, 03:18 AM) [snapback]424511[/snapback]
What a dobber you are

Thanks for endorsing my comment.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 06:54:46
QUOTE(Lifelongfan @ Mar 24 2008, 03:28 AM) [snapback]424513[/snapback]
Why don't you just shut the f-ck up for once in your misreable life

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The witty ones are always the best!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 07:04:54
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 23 2008, 11:57 PM) [snapback]424448[/snapback]
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I suppose I did invite that one. tongue.gif

You waffle along in Walloon
Yer waffle's no worth half a croon
Opinion frae Brussels
Affside more than Russell's
Yer only a big widden spoon.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 07:06:48
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 24 2008, 12:22 AM) [snapback]424470[/snapback]
If the sprinter tripped on his untied lace after 50m each race then he would be. wink.gif
Massa can't drive consistently without traction control - he's a liability.

Anther quote from 'Sir Jackie'?
mortonjag 2008-03-24 07:09:00
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 23 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]424333[/snapback]
Dragged out a bowling club kicking and screaming by a bunch of OAPs, I can picture it now. laugh.gif laugh.gif

Inaccurate ageism.

Wait till Weegie gets back.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 07:18:31
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Mar 23 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]424404[/snapback]
What I don't understand is the point being made by the churches about asking/telling MPs to vote guided by their conscience - they're not in parliament to represent their church, they're there to represent the views of constituents. The MPs own views shouldn't be of any relevance, unless of course it was stated in their manifesto that they would be voting on issues as dictated by religious beliefs.


Exactly-telling Catholic MP's to do what they've been told by the Church.

PLAIN AND SIMPLE
mortonjag 2008-03-24 07:23:39 Alexander attacks LibDems as she sets out vision for her party


Wendy Alexander is setting out her own vision for the way forward for Labour in Scotland, as the party prepares to gather for its annual conference later this week.

But in appealing to her own membership, she has felt it necessary to make a sideswipe at Labour's partners in the Scottish Constitutional Commission, the Liberal Democrats, accusing them of "woolly thinking" for not accepting that any change in the devolution settlement should involve some powers being handed back to Westminster.

She also appears to have abandoned any possibility of the commission coming up with a final set of proposals which all three pro-Union parties can sign up to, saying: "It will be for the parties to decide what parts of the commission's recommendations they wish to accept and put before the Scottish people."


Ms Alexander's 24-page pamphlet, "Change is what we do," calls for greater patient choice in healthcare, better basics in education and a more personalised approach there too, and continuing a tough stance on antisocial behaviour.

As such, it differs little from her predecessors, nor does it mark any clear policy divide with the party at Westminster, which will put her at odds with her party's left at Aviemore who will be demanding Labour recapture traditional policy ground now occupied by the nationalists.

Ms Alexander's vision statement speaks of "the three most gifted politicians of the centre-left - Bill Clinton, Tony Blair and Gordon Brown" who proved that "centre-left parties can run the economy not just well, but better than right-wing parties, while healing rifts right-wing politics worsen."

She admits the SNP slogan last year, "It's time for change," captured the public mood, which is why she wants to get her message across that the real party of change is Labour.

But she insists that to look at reviewing devolution only in terms of more powers for Holyrood would be "an exercise driven by Nationalist ideology" when it should be evidence-based.

"It is a pity that the Liberal Democrats seem to have set their face against the principle of looking at movement in both directions," she writes. "Clearly in a fast changing world it is no more than woolly thinking to assume that within devolved or federal arrangements movement will only be in one direction."

A LibDem spokesman last night said: "Nobody can present a coherent argument naming specific powers that they would like to see returned to Westminster.

"The Scottish people want to see an enhanced parliament with greater powers, particularly fiscal powers, and those are the proposals which the LibDems will be presenting to the commission."

For the SNP, Ochil MSP Keith Brown said: "Her commission and her credibility are now in tatters. The commission started off seeking more powers for Scotland but has now been downgraded by Brown to a working party which would take powers back to London."

He also said she had gaffed by praising John Wheatley's expansion of council house building, given her own party's behaviour in parliament last week. "This is another example of why there are serious questions and divisions about Wendy Alexander's leadership. She attacks the Tories for opposing council house building John Wheatley initiated.

"Yet only last Thursday Wendy and her Labour MSPs conspired with the Tories to try and prevent authorities from building new houses."




I particularly liked the highlighted paragraph.

mortonjag 2008-03-24 08:37:14
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Mar 24 2008, 08:31 AM) [snapback]424535[/snapback]
“Mentaljag†is a probably a more meaningful name for the old narcissistic keyboard assassin.

It’s the posts where he references himself in the 3rd person is what scares me – he’s clearly suffering a personality disorder. The continued baiting and goading of others in his posts are fuelling an ego that has a vast overestimation of itself. The old fruitcake gets his kicks out of every person that decides to take the bait and respond to his posts.

So it’s best not to stoke the fire. For an easier life reading the Morton board, turn on the ignore button and you won’t find the need to reply to any of his posts. In turn, old Mortonjag can get his kicks and whet his appetite for talking sh1te somewhere else. It’s that easy.

Clearly suffering from a personality disorder in your opinion Professor, and please don't dare to suggest that I overestimate myself.

That is simply impossible.

Now run off and read more psychology books. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 09:03:40
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 24 2008, 08:48 AM) [snapback]424539[/snapback]
The guy's a fud.

But god damnit he's an entertaining old fool.

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Slopped out yet?
mortonjag 2008-03-24 09:25:19
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 24 2008, 09:07 AM) [snapback]424542[/snapback]
Totally 100% correct. Davie McArthur thinks it is wrong to refer to oneself in the third person. tongue.gif

They would, wouldn't she? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 09:26:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 24 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]424543[/snapback]
but would you feed good 24 hours later ?

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Not if it was still alive!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 09:31:05
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 24 2008, 09:25 AM) [snapback]424549[/snapback]
I always thought the concept of 'full time' football was a weird one. If I worked two hours a day I would work 'part time' surely?

It's all to do with your concept of the concept Mr McArthur.

I believe that in footballing terms 'full time' is simply meant to indicate 'no other source of earned income'.

mortonjag 2008-03-24 09:34:37
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 24 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]424553[/snapback]
Really? blink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-24 09:39:45
QUOTE(BlueTube @ Mar 24 2008, 09:36 AM) [snapback]424556[/snapback]
Willowman is fine. Just keeping a low profile just now.

I'll let the polis know.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 09:42:47
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 24 2008, 09:37 AM) [snapback]424557[/snapback]
Davie McArthur would need clarification before posting anything further.

Clarification Mr McArthur-essential for a good wine or consomme.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 09:44:45
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 24 2008, 09:39 AM) [snapback]424558[/snapback]
Who said it was annual?

Dandy, Wizard, Beano, and Oor Wullie-minimum 500 deliveries.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 10:16:47
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 24 2008, 10:02 AM) [snapback]424570[/snapback]
Nah. My room mate might need to tho as he pissed the bed my first night here! Haha.. dirty English b*****d smile.gif

Jesus-I didn't REALLY think you were in jail-now you've got my imagination into overdrive!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 10:22:18
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 24 2008, 10:14 AM) [snapback]424575[/snapback]
Dowza I might be able to pipe the new date, but honestly wont know until nearer the time. I have a band practice that night and the Scottish Championship on the Saturday.

I'll do my best to make the service though if your still wanting the pipes.

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And they girn at GPs who can't give appointments in 24 hours-that's TWO F*CKIN' MONTHS NOTICE tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 10:30:11
QUOTE(BlueTube @ Mar 24 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]424578[/snapback]
Was coming out of the game on Saturday and noticed the Police booking people as they were returning to there vehicles. The vehicles were parked on the pavement in front of the wee car park at Carwood Street. Now I know they shouldn't be parked there but every home game for as long as my arse has pointed south there has always been cars parked there. In fact a friend of mine, who incidentally is a regular contributer to the matchday programme, was one of the people getting a stern warning from the plods.
Why have they suddenly decided to get heavy with these people after all this time? Is it possibly that they were drafted in from another area and just don't know what goes on or is someone in the Darymple St Hotel getting super officious. Got me angry to see it.

P.S. Before anyone asks, no i wasn't one of the ones caught. I alway park at Bawhirley Road.

There was some kind of announcement during the game-not on the normal tannoy, about cars they wanted moved. The female announcer's voice was very muffled, and I certainly couldn't make out the details.

Maybe a wee 'get out' there folks! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 10:34:01
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Mar 24 2008, 10:32 AM) [snapback]424580[/snapback]
You could set British Summertime or Wintertime by the seasonal witch-hunts against Rab Cochrane.

Sure it's pish, but it's his pish and he's honest enough & big enough to do it in a public forum using his own name. Far better he were to jack his column in and revert to snidey wee anonymous attacks on this esteemed forum eh.................

.....and your name is? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 10:46:52
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Mar 24 2008, 10:44 AM) [snapback]424586[/snapback]
Clydebuilt, what's your's....earnest know f***-all?

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Very good smart arse-so you'll NOT be telling then! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 10:50:54
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 24 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]424587[/snapback]
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That was actually quite good auld yin, well done. tongue.gif

Fing did that one-he's really the poet in the family!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 10:54:11
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 24 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]424588[/snapback]
Pissed his own bed. Musta been some flow too as it woke me up. I was too/drunk tired to wake him up and let him know. He noticed when he woke up in the morning tho'.

AHA-he didn't REALLY piss the bed at all.His bladder function simply went into autopilot while he was temporarily brain dead! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 10:56:12
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 24 2008, 10:54 AM) [snapback]424593[/snapback]
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What are you rolleyes.gif ing about?

What kind of service do you call that?
mortonjag 2008-03-24 10:58:12
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 24 2008, 10:56 AM) [snapback]424595[/snapback]
Phew, I don't wear a sash and I don't wear a suit either. tongue.gif

M. Leotard est arrive!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 11:00:30
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Mar 24 2008, 10:51 AM) [snapback]424591[/snapback]
It's not too difficult to find out if you really want to

Really-I know fine who you are!


































...and yer soup's crap.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 11:05:16
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 24 2008, 10:59 AM) [snapback]424598[/snapback]
Actually I wasn't being entirely honest there and I should come clean.

I do occasionally go here for a couple of drinks after work..... but only because it's handy, honest. tongue.gif

http://www.lodge-hotels.be/lodge/home.jsp

Nthing to do with beaver then?


Romantiek in stijlRomantiek op en top in deze gerestaureerde hoeve.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 11:07:36
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 24 2008, 11:04 AM) [snapback]424600[/snapback]
The "I'm currently a student and might not be come then" kind of service wink.gif

SorryPuggs-I thought you offered a piping service-I do have it in for plumbers right now!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 11:29:45
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 24 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]424604[/snapback]
So you are accusing RCs of Ultramontanism!

BTW, you seem to be indicating that only RC m.p.s will vote according to their conscience.

Which is of course drivel.

Complete and utter drivel Mr Bam.

A politician has no conscience-do clergymen not understand?
mortonjag 2008-03-24 11:33:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 24 2008, 11:29 AM) [snapback]424608[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-03-24 11:47:10
QUOTE(Yoda @ Mar 24 2008, 11:31 AM) [snapback]424610[/snapback]
Did someone not once say of Oppenhiemer and his team, just because they could - no one questioned if they should. ?

It's tricky territory. On the face of it, of course it will be tightly regulated and I know at least two of my family would benefit from some of the treatments that are bound to come out of it. It could be an incredible thing for man - but would it be such an incredible thing for mankind if the technology got into the wrong hands?

Ego and self rightousness will always be a concern, as I believe there are hardly any truly altruistic acts how can we be certain that a monster is not created - a Pandora's box that may not be again closed. Then again in Greek tragedy hope was the one thing that was considered good, the Roman story looked at it differently, hope was perhaps the most dangerous and the one to be feared most.

As inappropriate as it may seem, politics and religion have always been inextricably linked, the law of this land is based on the ten commandments. Is it so unacceptable to think that our politicians would let their beliefs be guided by their religion whatever religion that may be?

Yes the man is using his position to influence, but as only 9 of the 59 MSP lettered have replied - can we really tell exactly what effect he is having?

I agree with much of that but from a religious, or quasi religious viewpoint, 'God' has given man those skills-skills which can be used to alleviate suffering and misery. Surely if 'God' did not want that, 'he'd not allow it.

Simplistic I know Yoda.

The best example of religion and medicine at loggerheads is the Jehova's Witesses refusal to use blood or blood by products.

Parents can refuse to allow a transfusion to an 'under consent age' child, whereby it dies. The parents will be quite satisfied with the murder because they have obeyed conscience.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 11:57:02
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 24 2008, 11:54 AM) [snapback]424620[/snapback]
it's is easy to see how you have ammassed so many posts. tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-24 12:02:44
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 24 2008, 11:57 AM) [snapback]424623[/snapback]
I don't see what the big deal is here. Surely the Catholic church as with any other religious order or even a pressure group or big business is allowed to lobby our elected officials in the interests of its members or shareholders. The Cardinal is only saying that his church is wholly against the principles at least they're not trying to buy the government with seven figure donations in order to keep tobacco advertising in F1 (well not that we know of anyway!!).

Is he representing the wishes of Roman Catholics in general-if so fair enough.

If, however, he is simply trying to enforce 'perceived wisdom', I believe that to be entirely different.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 12:05:01
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 24 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]424624[/snapback]
is it bad that i know the threads you start purely from the name of the thread and without even looking at who the thread starter is? we're spending far too much time together MJ.

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mortonjag 2008-03-24 12:17:36
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 24 2008, 12:09 PM) [snapback]424628[/snapback]
Isnt that what you try and do on this messageboard, hunners of times each day.

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mortonjag 2008-03-24 12:21:19
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Mar 24 2008, 12:09 PM) [snapback]424629[/snapback]
When i seen the title I thought get in there a half decent erotic performer in the vein o sticky vicky hits the liberal club, instead o giving her a sultry moniker please stick with "stupid boot show" to avoid further confusion.

'Pig in knickers'?
mortonjag 2008-03-24 12:34:40
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 24 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]424627[/snapback]
The big deal is that it was a catholic saying it, and many people in West Central Scotland have a sheer bitter dislike towards catholics. Many folk reading this thread will be disagreeing with Cardinal O'Brien because of who he is rather than what he saying, sadly it will never change. Too many people around these parts with a 'No Surrender/FTP' mentality. sad.gif

You are right in what you say, if big business can lobby the government then why shouldn't religious groups.

It's unpleasant to have folk disliking you sheerly and bitterly-it hurts me to the core about fifty times a day, and if I complain, it just seems to get worse.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 12:42:04
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Mar 24 2008, 11:08 AM) [snapback]424603[/snapback]

Good quality video. That last shot of theirs which hit the woodwork coud have dumped us!! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 14:50:40
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 24 2008, 12:55 PM) [snapback]424640[/snapback]
Absolutely correct George. He's not hiding behind anything unlike most on here.
This has been going on for years and I'm surprised folk still bother to be honest. I suppose ManchesterTon is just playing catch up and he's in a long line of those who slag Rab off. It's comments from the Genitals boy that are the worst though, no constructive nature or humour to them and resorting to just abuse is just sad really.
I've said it a million times, Rab's column is pish but it's Shakespeare in comparison to the drivel posted on here by the borderline mentally ill

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mortonjag 2008-03-24 14:57:30
QUOTE(BlueTube @ Mar 24 2008, 01:08 PM) [snapback]424647[/snapback]
I must say that he had a better game today and did make a couple of good saves. Personally he still does not install any confidence and I still think he is pish.

He was nowhere near the two woodwork shots and in the second half made one of his super duper somersaulting dives to pick up a harmless ball to his left, fumbled, and was lucky to recover.

Goalies get little mercy-if the two shots had gone in, he'd again be villain of the week.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 15:01:42
QUOTE(Yoda @ Mar 24 2008, 01:37 PM) [snapback]424661[/snapback]
Expecting representatives to disclose their religious proclivities is I believe naive. Some of them can't be trusted to catalogue expenses and donations, it seems a bit fanciful to expect them to disclose something as personal as which church they attend, how deep their religious beliefs are or if they are members of other organisations attached to a particular belief or following.

Differing circumstances have a bearing on peoples beliefs and church attendance. Should we have a yearly audit on religious saturation? I think it would be impossible to police.

Religion should be a personal thing between the believer and their god, however it is not always played out that way. I don't think it is something we will ever get away from, there will always be a divide over whether or not religion should play a part in decision making for the country as a whole or over who's way of worship is better and whether or not is is better to quietly have faith or shout from the roof tops and indeed whether no faith is the best alternative.

Religion does a lot for man but nothing for mankind!

If you vote someone in on the basis of their manifesto then I think you should trust that they have consulted their beliefs when constructing it, there for is there a need for them to disclose which church they worship in - if indeed they worship at any?

Precis-politics = amorality.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 15:09:14 I'm afraid the polis have no alternative. Obstructing a public footpath is an offence, and if somebody has complained their hands are tied.

Mind you I DO like the wheelchair story-OK it might be perfectly true, and if so I hope the guy is less adventurous in future and wasn't injured, but it sounds more like a pathetic attempt to excuse their unpopularity, and when you think SERIOUSLY about it, could be construed as discriminatory AGAINST disabled people. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 15:21:11
QUOTE(BlueTube @ Mar 24 2008, 03:16 PM) [snapback]424687[/snapback]
Was it a police wumin?

Could it have been Gillian Donaldson?
mortonjag 2008-03-24 15:52:53
QUOTE(ton1901 @ Mar 24 2008, 03:30 PM) [snapback]424693[/snapback]
any player can make a mistake and have nothing said yet keeper has a good game and the points your making didnt even go in and he is still getting moaned about.

Is somebody moaning?
mortonjag 2008-03-24 15:54:58
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Mar 24 2008, 03:34 PM) [snapback]424695[/snapback]
One of the cars mentioned in the police announcement was my mates car. He had parked in front of the garages at the flats. The garage he parked in front of was the one boarded up with wood. Unless BA was about to smash out of it in the A-Team van, i can't see he who was obstructing.

Absolute criminals the pair of us!

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mortonjag 2008-03-24 15:59:48
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Mar 24 2008, 03:54 PM) [snapback]424699[/snapback]
To change tack slightly - the one point we're all missing here is regardless of any vot taken in parliament, the stem cell research genie is already out of the bottle, and it will continue, so surely the actual issue up for vote is how is it going to be regulated. I don't belive for a minute that th research will stop now that it's started.

There were a couple of people on Radio Scotland debating this issue this morning, they raised the issue of the false info being propogated, and the use of emotive language linking the issue to "frankenstein"

Unfettered inbreeding has accounted for many real life 'Frankensteins'.

People are naturally wary about any far reaching advance in science-and rightly so, but if all alarmists had been heeded in the past we'd still be in 'the dark ages'.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 16:01:50 Well all I can say is that David Irons put his arm round the boy in sympathy as he came off-I think that says enough.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 16:04:24
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 24 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]424701[/snapback]
Here if you really wanna continue on this "me being in the big house" joke MortonJag did I mention that I arranged a date on my first night here?

*dangles line*

Jersey!


More like a date wi' a woolly jumper.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 16:21:52
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Mar 24 2008, 04:11 PM) [snapback]424710[/snapback]
does that count for you as well Mr. s***ebag ? its more than obvious that you are still "stuck in the dark ages". Maybe you should volunteer your services for medical research in to euthenasia. I really wish you would f*** off and leave this forum.

Hmm-would you care to elaborate?

Oh and the modern way of spelling the word is EUTHANASIA.

Here to help!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 16:24:35
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 24 2008, 04:05 PM) [snapback]424708[/snapback]
That was s***e MJ.

I'd expected more.

Eh-what's wrong with woolly jumpers?
mortonjag 2008-03-24 16:27:00
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 24 2008, 04:19 PM) [snapback]424715[/snapback]
Aye and if yer auntie had baws she'd be yer uncle. What's your point here exactly?

Don't be obtuse.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 19:13:39
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 24 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]424773[/snapback]
didnt know that tom
i am for this as long as its done right, and gets cures for many things that are needed.

I couldn't agree more Bryan.

I can't blame the Cardinal for doing what he thinks is morally correct.

In 1974, in the most Catholic town in Scotland, good little Catholic girls were coming to me in their droves for the pill, DESPITE every contrary direction from 'on high'.

Seems common sense will out.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 19:17:11
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 24 2008, 06:19 PM) [snapback]424760[/snapback]
ahem, that's the third person sad.gif

Tom, Dick, and Ahem, Trumpet?
mortonjag 2008-03-24 19:41:21
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 24 2008, 04:50 PM) [snapback]424728[/snapback]
Just looking for some input on a part of my dissertation.

It focuses on the PFI in schools, for which the bottom line of determining a project is a success is whether or not it delivers value for money for the taxpayer.

My theory is for schools a lot more should be looked at rather than simply being able to balance the books and make the government look like they have done something right for a change.

So what other ways would you board members consider a school to be a success?

The obvious one I have are exam results. The other is looking at the schools location in terms of its success (ie if it is in a bad area but still able to give the pupils a chance at something when leaving school rather than becoming another waster).

I have other ideas kicking around too but these two have been put to paper and just wondering what others would consider before I put anything else down.

I'm afraid the term 'success' could be kicked about all night Puggs. Ultimately the best indicators must be exam results, though that's far from an ideal measurement of 'education'.

In any event who, or what, is this ubiquitous 'taxpayer' for whom it is to deliver value for money. Taxpayers are surely a diverse bunch, with different perceptions of the purpose of education.


Oh and PPP STINKS!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 19:45:37
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 24 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]424720[/snapback]
Far from it. Your post is full of ifs buts and maybes. Perhaps if you understood the wider context of the game of football rather than micro-analysing every move of every player you may be able to chill out and enjoy the game a bit more. Even the best teams in the world concede goals, just as the best players in the world make mistakes too. Robinson dealt with everything he had and was able to very well. He could not be held responsible for the goal given the deflection. The fact that two shots hit the woodwork is not a reflection on Robinson. Also, the one cleared off the line was first tipped along in front of the line by a stretched Robinson in a reflex save.

I merely commented that, had they gone in-which you appear to agree was a possibility-he'd currently be getting dogs' abuse. blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif

mortonjag 2008-03-24 19:49:36
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Mar 24 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]424756[/snapback]
A very reliable source told me you have a bee in your Easter bonnet because the boots clashed with your nail polish tongue.gif wink.gif

SO WHAT? mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 19:50:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 24 2008, 06:24 PM) [snapback]424764[/snapback]
surge to 28.3%

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QUOTE(C B @ Mar 24 2008, 06:30 PM) [snapback]424769[/snapback]
29.51%

Monkey rules !

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mortonjag 2008-03-24 19:54:07
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 24 2008, 06:48 PM) [snapback]424775[/snapback]
here's an example:

Was it a tongue in cheek example or not Trumpet?


....or would you know the difference? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 19:56:51
QUOTE(leyTON @ Mar 24 2008, 07:28 PM) [snapback]424805[/snapback]
i find it hard to critisice rab as i know him well
hes expressing an opinion on morton, as do others on this board regularly, but they dont agree with it so they get angry as if he has no right to do so - its the same with mortonjag
the only thing i take issue with is rab commenting on away games when he isnt there

TBH I've never yet had the pleasure or otherwise of reading one of his pieces, but, as you suggest, he does seem to get a reaction. That's not a bad thing for a hack. I bet he has a wee smile!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 19:59:58
QUOTE(morton_forever @ Mar 24 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]424783[/snapback]
Just heard from a source inside Cappielow (no he shall no be named), the Chris Innes shall sign for the Ton tomorrow pending Fifa allowing him to leave his contract at Gretna.

Trust me on this one wink.gif

SK smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-24 20:04:30
QUOTE(leyTON @ Mar 24 2008, 08:01 PM) [snapback]424822[/snapback]
a hacks a bit extreme
hes not exactly a reporter

How would you describe him-a post match commentator?

As I say, I've never seen one of his bits! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 20:07:18
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 24 2008, 08:02 PM) [snapback]424823[/snapback]
wondered when you'd arrive to give us another one of your interesting posts. you're getting lazy. you at least used to give your opinions on things, now you just do smilies. tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-24 20:09:05
QUOTE(CraigoTON @ Mar 24 2008, 08:04 PM) [snapback]424826[/snapback]
not true, he also quotes AND highlights the text, usuallly in a vibrant fuschia.

This is



VIBRANT FUSCHIA



for those who imagined it was some kind of sexual deviation.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 20:10:52
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 24 2008, 07:59 PM) [snapback]424820[/snapback]
the key with exam results is value-add, which involves comparing predicted performance at age 11, say, with actual performance at age 16, rather than looking at absolute performance on exit.

Teacher Trumpet! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 20:14:28
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 24 2008, 08:04 PM) [snapback]424828[/snapback]
A'hem...... see below a post a made earlier today.
Tom, either you're completely senile or you just like to make things up as you go along to suit your argument. Either way you just end up making yourself out to be daft old t***. rolleyes.gif

Is he wrong about you being a ginger dwarf as well?


It's been said of you so often that I'm really begining to wonder. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 20:20:00
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Mar 24 2008, 08:10 PM) [snapback]424831[/snapback]
I have it on good authority that this transformation was purely down to Wylie's coaching techniques during last week:

DW: "So Lee, you're not too bad a keeper at the moment: decent kicking, good shot stopper and not bad at commanding your area; but instead of punching the ball at a cross, have you ever thought about catching it?"

LR: "That's not a bad idea actually..."

And so it was that Lee Robinson caught every cross on Saturday!

....and this week


DW: Lee if you just dive to left or right and don't birl round five times in the process, you won't be so dizzy when you take the goal kick!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 20:24:08
QUOTE(The Shuffler @ Mar 24 2008, 08:17 PM) [snapback]424835[/snapback]
Got a weekend to spend in Glasgow with the other half in a few months, not really too clued up on where to go for a decent meal or the "in" pubs, also looking for any opinions on a decent hotel. Been to Ashton Lane a few times found it pretty good but expensive & been down Byres road too. Only ever been in a few eateries, two Chinese buffet type places, I Dragon & an Indian ( which i cant remember the name of ! ).

Ive checked out the Hotels on line but ended up wacko.gif with the choices ! Just looking for somewhere within walking distance of pubs clubs etc.

All thoughts/experiences welcomed ! smile.gif

It's 'horses for courses' Shuffler-depends EXACTLY what you want-Glasgow is a bustling cosmopolitan area nowadays which caters for just about everybody.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:00:52
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 24 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]424850[/snapback]
laugh.gif

Tom's the only person in the world who thinks I'm ginger. laugh.gif There are plenty of people who know me on here (SimpleTon, DongaTon to name but two) who'll confirm that I'm not. So quite why he thinks that calling someone something that they're patently not is a clever wind up beats me. rolleyes.gif Like I said, I think he's getting a bit senile.

I do concede however that I am a dwarf. tongue.gif

Not a real live dwarf though-like in Snowhite-just a little chap?

A Brussels smout peut etre?
mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:02:25
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 24 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]424854[/snapback]
Why must you come stamen into this thread so often?

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mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:05:54
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 24 2008, 08:55 PM) [snapback]424855[/snapback]
probably from the same ' source '. or else someone on here told someone about his post and he told someone and then that someone told you. tongue.gif

Hey PT-nod, nod, wink, wink---I have it on extremely good authority that we could sign Paul McGowan within the next five years.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:07:40
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 24 2008, 09:03 PM) [snapback]424859[/snapback]
wacko.gif

Apollen!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:10:26
QUOTE(morton_forever @ Mar 24 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]424864[/snapback]
What happened to my topic?

Did I say something wrong? blink.gif

It was here a minute ago!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:12:19
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 24 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]424866[/snapback]
Lucky enough to have had a great view of the River Clyde in a few of my homes.

We live in one of the most beautiful places in the world, don't laugh.

WORK!


What's it called? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:14:26
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 24 2008, 09:11 PM) [snapback]424867[/snapback]
I don’t think the Cardinal is necessarily reflecting the views of all Christians or for that matter all RC’s or even for that matter all priests? Well I think that is the case given that it is a “broad churchâ€. Whilst, sitting having Easter Dinner yesterday my MIL started to discuss the subject and saying how the Cardinal was quite right in his views. Luckily (for me) her son asked her to explain more. To which she replied “the Cardinal is a very intelligent man so he understands the issue very well. That is good enough for me.â€

Anyway, if disagreeing with the Cardinal now makes me a “pape-basher†then so be it. FTP, No Surrender, 1690, etc. etc. blink.gif

smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:17:13
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 24 2008, 09:14 PM) [snapback]424876[/snapback]
Cet homme petit, pas ginger, mais avec trois maisons.



Comment? mad.gif


Trois grandes maisons pour un smout de Brussels, and the people have no bread Mr Edwards.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:23:05
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 24 2008, 09:11 PM) [snapback]424868[/snapback]
Big enough?
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI think we'd need a big, big mincer first!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:28:54
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 24 2008, 09:25 PM) [snapback]424889[/snapback]
MortonJag, I have replied to you, on more than one occasion, with an easy to follow explanation just like Deego did to reply to all posts in one post.

Click QUOTE on all you want to reply to.
Click ADD REPLY when done.
Now add your replies in between the quotes.
Click NOT FCKING ROCKET SCIENCE>

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Welcome back-I've been doing it for days! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:34:10
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 24 2008, 09:25 PM) [snapback]424890[/snapback]
For llama burgers?

The administrator will be getting ideas, and Alibi will be salivating.


World famous Raydale Llamaburgers-new factory on old fitba ground-bumpkin unemployment slashed overnight.

MMM
mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:35:05
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 24 2008, 09:32 PM) [snapback]424896[/snapback]
what did I miss?

A rumour.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:38:14
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 24 2008, 09:33 PM) [snapback]424899[/snapback]
missing tottie scones

That'll teach you to be a bad boy!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:39:20
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 24 2008, 09:37 PM) [snapback]424912[/snapback]
We can't tell you, you weren't here wink.gif

Cos he's been a bad boy!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:42:07
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 24 2008, 09:37 PM) [snapback]424911[/snapback]
Robinson's always been a decent keeper. It's our arsehole fans who jump on every little mistake that were incorrect.

Oh I'm sure he has Donga


As to our arsehole fans.

Well I guess there's no accounting for taste.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:45:58
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 24 2008, 09:44 PM) [snapback]424925[/snapback]
Sure, I was just countering your accusation that i'd never helped you!

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


I wasn't blaming YOU-just myself!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:50:43
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 24 2008, 09:38 PM) [snapback]424914[/snapback]
Sounds like Double Dutch to me. I think you're accusing me of having something small. My version of word doesn't translate, so I'll have to surmise. Ach well, ask the troll, he'll tell you size doesn't matter. According to him, it's all down to one's age, religion, politics and most importantly, how many houses you have. biggrin.gif

In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you
mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:54:33
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 24 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]424930[/snapback]
so good you said it twice wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-24 22:18:28
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 24 2008, 10:02 PM) [snapback]424948[/snapback]
Mais non, Cet Homme Petit. I just enjoy winding folk up who think that anyone younger than them is there to be patronised, anyone older than them is there to be mocked, anyone who has religious faith is naive, anyone with a different political view is a numpty, and, last but not least, anyone with less than three houses is a loser. laugh.gif
Most of all, I do like a laugh, and lately, you've been providing plenty. tongue.gif

But you are only a dwarf?
mortonjag 2008-03-24 22:21:02
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Mar 24 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]424953[/snapback]
Martin Lews who runs the moneysavingexpert.com website has some really good advice here when it comes to car insurance. He suggests using the following website IN THE FOLLOWING order when looking for car insurance:

moneysupermarket.com (48% of total market)
confused.com (16% of total market)
comparethemarket (16% of total market)
tescocompare (8% of the total market)
uswitch (8% of the total market)
gocompare (4% of the total market)

A friend of mine tried this for his renewal and saved a good bit of money- worth a try.

Martin's money tips are well worthwhile
mortonjag 2008-03-24 22:24:20
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 24 2008, 10:19 PM) [snapback]424965[/snapback]
Don't think you come back that way from Peterhead do ye?

*racks brain*

the one I'm thinking of is when you come up through Lanarkshire

EH-a roundabout?
mortonjag 2008-03-24 22:27:20
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 24 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]424969[/snapback]
The pyramid one is on the A80, between the M8 and Moodiesburn.
So that's used for anywhere north. smile.gif

And it's got two pyramids known locally as Madonna's tits.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 22:29:23
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 24 2008, 10:21 PM) [snapback]424967[/snapback]
Never read this thread as it looks boring but I have one question to ask about religion.

Science has pretty much disproved every serious religion so why do people still believe?

What goes round comes round?
mortonjag 2008-03-24 22:45:02
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Mar 24 2008, 10:36 PM) [snapback]424978[/snapback]
tongue.gif wink.gif

mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 22:48:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 24 2008, 10:37 PM) [snapback]424979[/snapback]
Me? I don't think so. 5' 11" I stand, used to be 6' 0" until I bust my back 12 years ago. Anyway, it's not nice to call people dwarves. Troll is ok though. laugh.gif

I was, of course, referring to the Brussels Smout, who on his own confession is a dwarf.

If a dwarf wishes to be called a dwarf, I'd suggest it's unkind to call him a troll.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 22:51:37
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Mar 24 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]424993[/snapback]
Schools should be judged on what their pupils acheive after leaving. The majority of school subjects, especially at Higher level, do not teach pupils things that will be useful to them in the real world, so exam results are not the way to judge. Gourock High has had the best exam results in Inverclyde almost every year in the last ten, yet it has had the highest number of Uni and College dropouts from any school in Inverclyde. Therefore, you can't really call it the best school in Inverclyde, as although it has had the best exam results, it's pupils have not been successful in the real world, therefore the school has been unsuccessful in its' education. Proof that exam results should not be used to judge IMO.

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mortonjag 2008-03-24 22:54:04
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 24 2008, 10:51 PM) [snapback]424997[/snapback]
Excuses excuses. 46 year old's can and do suffer from dementia you know. Sitting at the computer thinking you're watching TV could be symptomatic.

Even 46 year old dwarves?
mortonjag 2008-03-24 22:57:12
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 24 2008, 10:52 PM) [snapback]425000[/snapback]
Whats the difference between a dwarf and a midget?

Dwarves are deformed-midgets are diminutive but of normal shape.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 22:59:18
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Mar 24 2008, 10:57 PM) [snapback]425005[/snapback]
You know what I mean. laugh.gif

I do and I don't. Given the relative value of any old Uni degree those days, we may have confirmation that the Gourockians remain the brightest and quickest learners!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 07:06:10
NHS admits it is failing thousands suffering chronic pain


Thousands of patients living with incurable pain are being let down by the Scottish NHS, according to a hard-hitting report by the health service's own watchdog.

Despite four official investigations in the past 14 years highlighting worrying gaps in care, the research reveals there has been very little improvement.

Specialist support for people who suffer chronic pain is patchy and inadequate, patients are confused and clinicians are frustrated, say the authors.


They are demanding action from the Scottish Government and health boards to ensure patients, who can wait years for the treatment they need, get faster access to the right medical help.

It is estimated that 18% of the population, 900,000 people, suffer some form of chronic pain. This is discomfort from injury or disease which persists beyond the typical healing process.

One-quarter of people diagnosed are unable to continue working because of the condition, yet just 3% of sufferers are sent to the specialist clinics.

NHS Quality Improvement Scotland, which monitors standards in the health service, has published the latest report.

It notes the Scottish Office first described services as patchy in 1994 and further documents published by very experienced people in 2000, 2002 and 2004 raised the same issues.

"Despite all of this, very little progress has been made. Access to specialist services is poor."

NHS QIS found not one health board could accurately describe the services they did offer.

Dr Pete Mackenzie, who worked on the report, said: "There are major blackspots around the country where there is almost a complete lack of service. The chances of (being told there is no hope) are much greater if you live in an area like that."

Dr Mackenzie said, there was frustration about the pace of progress, adding: "It is fair to say many of us, and particularly the patients with chronic pain, feel reports come and go and nothing much happens."

A Scottish Government spokeswoman said: "We are considering the recommendations relating to the Scottish Government, and the Health Secretary will use her address to the national conference organised by the Pain Association Scotland on May 20 to set out her response.

"We have for a number of years been encouraging the development of a managed clinical network approach to chronic pain."




You're lying in bed bound agony listening to wee Nickerless Surgeon and her amoral fibbing about an NHS that meets patient demand.

You wish you didn't have to call out Dr Moneybags yet again-but at least he understands you can't get to the surgery, and unfailingly attends when you ask, even though he still makes his regular weekly visit, and always has a cheery smile and words of consolation and encouragement.

It's no consolation though, when he explains that those 'courtesy' visits are having to stop. Apparently more deserving patients have to be seen at surgery in increasing numbers during longer hours. He says the government claim that's what the important people want, and apparently he can see half a dozen of them in the time it takes to visit me.

Oh and he says he gets paid a nice wee extra fee for freezing off warts, and so on, but nothing for visiting me.

Mind you those warty ones, and the ones who need their pill prescriptions at 7.45 p.m. are apparently too busy to attend 'normal' surgery hours.

Too busy out working and making money I'm told.

I wish I could still go out to work.

I wish I could still be here at the next election too.


mortonjag 2008-03-25 07:16:54
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 25 2008, 12:52 AM) [snapback]425048[/snapback]
Doesn't make him bad person though, or does it? laugh.gif

Nope just a 46 year old ex-ginger baldy headed dwarf, with three houses, who waffles in Walloon.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 07:19:57
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 24 2008, 11:51 PM) [snapback]425027[/snapback]
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Llamaburgers are the answer.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 07:23:06 Many happy returns. I'd love to say that in Gaelic but I'd need to brush up my Erse first!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 07:30:40
QUOTE(ThornwoodTon @ Mar 25 2008, 02:46 AM) [snapback]425054[/snapback]
It will happen one day. We wont get relegated this season (pauese for deep positive breath...), and I would say give us 3-5 years under Irons and Collins and we'll be challenging for spl promotion.

This is all fine and well for the youngsters!

Mr Rae will be in his eighties (or elsewhere) very soon.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 07:32:09
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 25 2008, 06:09 AM) [snapback]425063[/snapback]
Don't remember seeing him play for Livi the last time we played them.
The difference a pair of boots can make ? ! ? !

Sir Joshua Belisha would have blushed in embarrassment.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 07:38:08 Mainly I miss seeing goals-remember them- but I also sadly regret the passing of the smell of the old Stand Lavvy.

OK I admit that the mix of thick black pipe tobacco smoke and alcohol laced urine was an 'acquired taste', but it was inimitably Cappielow.

Oh-and I miss Andy Ritchie.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 08:45:08
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 25 2008, 08:36 AM) [snapback]425080[/snapback]
If what you say is true then I apologise sincerely for any part that I've played in 'taunting' you. If it is not, then congratulations, you've got us all squirming with shame (well me, anyway). Next time you're home I'll be happy to buy you a pint. biggrin.gif

Don't believe a word of it-he doesn't suffer from 'dwarfism' (I use the word correctly) at all, and he knows it, but he chose to describe himself as a 'dwarf'-his word-not mine. Genuine dwarves may feel a bit grumpy about this.

Mind you if he cares to post a personal picture-preferably naked- in support of his claim, I shall make a dispassionate diagnosis.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 08:54:58
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 25 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]425083[/snapback]
Do the English love us or hate us? Do they even know we're here? Has devolution and talk of independence changed the way they view Scotland? Hardeep Singh Kohli investigates the fond yet increasingly fractious relationship between the Scots and our southern neighbours with help from Jeremy Paxman, Yorkshire poet Ian McMillan and First Minister Alex Salmond.

I'm almost tempted Spurtle-maybe a couple of Maxolon at 10 p.m. could make viewing possible.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 09:01:20
QUOTE(ian clinging @ Mar 25 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]425087[/snapback]
Off to East Stirlingshire

On holiday?
mortonjag 2008-03-25 09:08:52
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 25 2008, 08:55 AM) [snapback]425085[/snapback]
Whatever, as I said, if he doesn't, it's been a good wind up.

He's an intelligent (well sort of) chap DE. If he really suffered from clinical 'dwarfism' he would not have used the word inappropriately as a neologism.

There are two types of dwarf-achondroplastic-in which the torso is of normal size but the limbs are short, (achondroplastic dwarves were often employed in circuses) and pituitary dwarfism-Tom Thumb type dwarves who are perfectly proportioned.

The Brussels smout is just that!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 09:18:32
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 25 2008, 09:11 AM) [snapback]425091[/snapback]
Take 10cc tongue.gif

We tend to use mls. rather than c.c.'s bracken bum.

10mls of metoclopramide syrup would equate to two tablets!


Here to help wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-25 09:22:27
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 25 2008, 09:17 AM) [snapback]425093[/snapback]
One of the advantages of being a bit older - my fully comp car insurance with a protected NCD is just under £200 for a 2.5 litre Audi, and not much more for my MX5.

I have insurance from Tesco, although I suspect they won't touch anyone under 25. Confused.com and suchlike are good for comparing prices, and BTW if you go through a broker you'll probbaly pay a good bit more to cover commission.

I used Confused.com two years ago and got a great quote from More>than

My renewal premium was still competitive but I thought I could beat it, so I shopped around again.

Lo and behold the best quote was with-----More>than.

I 'phoned them, and they happily dropped the price.

Haggle! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-25 09:24:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 25 2008, 09:16 AM) [snapback]425092[/snapback]
Did it help that the bloke is worth reportedly worth A$1.2 billion ???

huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif
Australian model Kristy Hinze says she was instantly attracted to her 63-year-old boyfriend, Texan billionaire Jim Clark, by his intelligence.

The 27-year-old granddaughter of the late Queensland politician Russ Hinze has been dating Clark, the founder of Netscape, for two-and-a-half years.

The pair were tight-lipped about their relationship until now, but Hinze has told Australian Women's Weekly she was instantly attracted to the thrice-married entrepreneur.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=417215

This phenomenon is not as rare as you may imagine! wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-25 09:35:51
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 25 2008, 09:20 AM) [snapback]425096[/snapback]
General Nonsense with this p!sh.

Agreed-it's just not cricket.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 10:40:09
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 25 2008, 09:58 AM) [snapback]425101[/snapback]
I was actually responding to your question. You asked if I really was a 'ginger dwarf' which is Tom's preferred personal insult when referring to me, which he uses frequently. Dwarfism is however not the term I personally would use to descibe my particular condition, which I'd rather not discuss in detail on a public forum, but I'm sure you already know that 'dwarfism' encompasses many types of growth disorders.

Tom's met me (he still owes me a pint I seem to remember) and he is the one who likes to descibes me as a 'dwarf'. You must have been a really special doctor if you could make a diagnosis on someone you've never even met, it was surely a great loss to the Medical Profession when you retired.

I may well have used the term 'dwarfism' to refer to those who have an irrational hatred for dwarfs and not the medical condition, and for that I apologise.

I'm still not ginger though. smile.gif

Well-was I correct or not- you're a wriggly little chap-slithery with it!

ARE you a dwarf or are you not?

You don't have to discuss anything in detail on a public forum.

Don't forget you asked a similar question about my mental health! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-25 10:41:24
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 25 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]425105[/snapback]
that kohli guy's a tosser, so i won't be watching.

It's Bawheid who makes me Sikh.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 11:03:33
QUOTE(BlueTube @ Mar 25 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]425111[/snapback]
Well what do you make of this??

[attachment=3868:Bush_and...er_Bunny.jpg]

Big ears meets Noddy.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 11:06:21
QUOTE(BlueTube @ Mar 25 2008, 10:48 AM) [snapback]425110[/snapback]
I am glad this is more clear in my mind. I wasn't aware why they were checking the cars and drivers. If it was because of the lack of access for a disabled person then well done the plods. I was basically annoyed that they were doing it after all these years. I wasn't arguing with the fact that they were doing it just annoyed that there didn't seem to be any reason for suddenly picking on the drivers. Many thanks for the info.

Next home game they've scheduled spot checks on wheelchair tyres and brakes, as a pedestrian was apparently knocked over on Saturday! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-25 11:36:05
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 25 2008, 11:12 AM) [snapback]425118[/snapback]
It depends what doctor you speak to. As you know 'dwarfism' is a general term that encompasses many different types and severity of growth disorder, so there's not a simple 'yes' or 'no' answer to that. I'd say that I'm not a dwarf, but there are some doctors who would disagree.

Indeed I did, and I seem to remember that far from than ridiculing you I in fact congratulated you in your openness and honesty and I offered you my best wishes in your fight to control the illness, both of which still stand.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

You were, as always, very courteous, and I extend the same to you. If you are indeed shorter than 4' 10", we may agree to describe you as a 'dwarf' if you wish, though I prefer the term 'little person' for such people who have no specific genetic disorder.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 11:38:01
QUOTE(BlueTube @ Mar 25 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]425120[/snapback]
laugh.gif ohmy.gif Sick mate.

Not really-have you seen yon' Irn Bru advert?
mortonjag 2008-03-25 11:40:55
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 25 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]425123[/snapback]
So has he signed or whit ?

whit
mortonjag 2008-03-25 11:41:47
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 25 2008, 11:41 AM) [snapback]425129[/snapback]
You can call me whatever you want MJ, it's water off a duck's back.

OK Daffy.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 11:44:41
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 25 2008, 11:42 AM) [snapback]425131[/snapback]
KFC on the corner of Renfield Street is quite good, even has tomotao ketchup, unlike the Greenock one.

Sounds finger lickin' exotic!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 13:48:58
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 25 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]425143[/snapback]
I was going to be a tree surgeon, but I couldn't stand the sight of sap ! tongue.gif

C'mon someone had to say it !

..even if you're obsessed with your roots.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 13:52:24
QUOTE(.:BrIDo:. @ Mar 25 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]425160[/snapback]
Heard they had dead dogs in the freezer and that's why they had to shut down. tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-25 13:59:35 dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-25 14:09:18
QUOTE(dazed @ Mar 25 2008, 02:01 PM) [snapback]425168[/snapback]
Hmmmmm, Four reports in fourteen years, 10 of which had a labour Government in the UK and since its arrival, in power in the Scottish Government until May last year, all highlighting a total lack of progress,yet you choose to attack the SNP government for its 10 months in office? If anybody has been fibbing about the NHS its the Labour party, with their manipulated targets!

While I would agree with a lot of what you have to say your blinkered critiscism does your argument no favours.
I too hope Im around for the next election and also hope the Labour party gets a bloody good hiding this time, they deserve it!

IMHO little Nickerless has taken a step BACKWARDS with her attention seeking pandering to so called 'service users'.

Never ever have I praised the Labour Government's handling of the NHS, nor the Tory's for that matter.

I had simply hoped for some honesty and improvement from our home grow lot, and am frankly disgusted.

Would you like to comment on the points made in my original post?
mortonjag 2008-03-25 14:18:57
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Mar 25 2008, 02:12 PM) [snapback]425173[/snapback]
None of them, to be honest. He hasn't done anything whatsoever to suggest he is either a good player or a bad player, his attitude is disgraceful and he should be benched for a few weeks until he realises that he is actually going to have to make a bit of effort. When he does that, then we'll be able to decide what he has to offer, but until then, f*** him.

Jenkins though, shows in spells what he is capabable of, and does actually seem to look a wee bit unfit at times. I think he has so much more to offer, but I definitely wouldn't drop him as he still influences the game even when he isn't at his best imo. He does, however, need to buckle down and graft for the full 90 minutes instead of just wee spells in the game.

I've heard this suggested a few times now. If indeed this is the case, why is Irons playing him?
mortonjag 2008-03-25 14:28:17
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Mar 25 2008, 02:16 PM) [snapback]425176[/snapback]
Think you'll find there was more than one Tory involved in previous administrations! Sorrry MJ, the apostrophe fascist in me couldn't help myself - still, I'd expect better from a man of your brilliance laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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Oh I spotted that the minute I typed it and knew some smart arse would pick me up on it!


Never ever have I praised the Labour Government's handling of the NHS, nor the Tory's for that matter.


Still confused?


Anyway, that's the second post having the usual wee dig at me when I highlight the crass inefficiency and blundering naivety of that upstart politician.

That, despite the simple presentation of hard fact.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 14:35:47
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Mar 25 2008, 02:25 PM) [snapback]425184[/snapback]
I don't really think it has been suggested, all you have to do is watch him every time he plays for us. Arrogant, lazy, disinterested, useless.

I agree he's been a big disappointment to me, but why is Irons playing him if his attitude's wrong?
mortonjag 2008-03-25 14:40:34
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Mar 25 2008, 02:33 PM) [snapback]425188[/snapback]
Just wondering if anyone has an answer?

Jesus' father was 'God'.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 15:08:27
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Mar 25 2008, 02:47 PM) [snapback]425196[/snapback]
What would you recommend we do then? Who should we vote for to get the improvements you're seeking? Which party specifically commits itself to addressing the issues that you've mentioned? Give us a positive suggestion rather than just go off one one. Your points are very valid, but IMHO you do your argument no favours by letting it deteriorate int a personal attack on Nicola Sturgeon - as a previous poster has already pointed out, SNP have only had power for a very small portion of the time covered by these report's. (Have left a rogue apostrophe for you to get me back on wink.gif )

That depends on exactly whom you define as 'we'.

I recommend that 'service users' listen to grass roots NHS workers for a start, instead of 'rubbishing' them every time they tell the truth about successive government bungling.

Many posters had a 'field day' when I raised the topic of yet another unilaterally enforced 'G.P. contract', (Sturgeon simulating Tory Kenneth Clarke in 1990)-by putting the boot into 'lazy and greedy' G.P.s.

When, however, I give a real life example of how those in genuine need are suffering as a result of expedient political meddling, there is a deafening silence.

It would certainly be refreshing to hear at least one or two decent folk supporting the notion that General Practitioners know better than rookie M.P.s what is best for patients.

mortonjag 2008-03-25 15:16:11
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Mar 25 2008, 02:49 PM) [snapback]425197[/snapback]
So was Joseph just Marys Bidey In then?
And if this God guy was the faither, how can it be a virgin birth?
Methinks Mary was at it!

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God was the father, but he didn't use his Holy Willie, so she was a virgin.

Joseph was only too happy that they moved up the housing list to bother that much.

God works in a mysterious way, his wonders to perform Paddy-I'm sure the Cardinal could give a more detailed explanation.

mortonjag 2008-03-25 15:17:20
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 25 2008, 03:11 PM) [snapback]425204[/snapback]
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Right ya bunch of bawbags, as soon as I get home I'm uploading a photie to settle this ginger thing once and for all.

You have been warned. tongue.gif

Will it say 'reduced by 50%'?
mortonjag 2008-03-25 15:23:24
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 25 2008, 03:21 PM) [snapback]425214[/snapback]
Absolutely nothing, some of my best friends are ginger.

Sad is the man who lists his pubes among his friends.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 15:24:58
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 25 2008, 03:19 PM) [snapback]425212[/snapback]
Anyone know where I can get my Camcorder fixed locally ? Or if not locally, where else ?

It's a Sony Handycam DVD92E

Colkitto-location unknown-and you'll not get it fixed on Colonsay-that's for sure! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-25 15:27:46
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 25 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]425216[/snapback]
You just won't let it lie will you. rolleyes.gif

Cot, petal..whack! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-25 15:29:14
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 25 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]425221[/snapback]
Greenock ya daft bassa ! blink.gif

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Try a camera shop then!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 15:43:22
QUOTE(Yoda @ Mar 25 2008, 03:34 PM) [snapback]425226[/snapback]
If Paxman's on you'll need to go straight for the Zolphran cool.gif

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I rarely watch telly those days-just thought this might be a bit of fun, though I agree that his emetic qualities may persist well into Wednesday!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 16:07:05
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Mar 25 2008, 03:48 PM) [snapback]425232[/snapback]
I'm certainly not arguing that MPs know any better than GPs or any other NHS employees for that matter. My ex has been working in NHS for over 25 years so I do have some idea of the issues faced by all NHS staff, not just GPs. But my question remains unanswered - what exactly do you propose that I, or anybody else, does to remedy the situation. I would have thought voting out a government that dedcates untold billions to illegal wars & weapons of mass destruction would be a step in the right direction, but you would seem to disagree?

You've not been reading my posts then-I despised the Labour stranglehold in Scotland-I was happy to see the SNP in power, but unlike many, I have no strong political allegiance-indeed I despise all politics and politicians-though I accept some form of government as a 'necessary evil'. I'm bitterly disappointed in this new lot, and particularly in their abuse of the NHS.

The first step that any thinking person can take is to accept the fact that the NHS never could, and never will meet 'demand'. Sturgeon is saying exactly the opposite. What does she take us for?

Lloyd George got it wrong, and it's been an embarrassment to successive governments ever since.

People are far too quick to claim that 'they know their rights' without actually thinking of the implications.

There's no easy solution, and no quick one either-I firmly believe that folk will gradually be forced more and more into private health schemes as the NHS continues to fail to meet REAL need.

Sturgeon should be thoroughly ashamed of herself, but politicians don't do 'ashamed'-do they? dry.gif

mortonjag 2008-03-25 16:12:51
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Mar 25 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]425236[/snapback]
thers a pount do motibility scooters need rd tax








There are 250,000 mobility scooters believed to currently be used in Britain

Loading the weekly shop as they glide up and down the supermarket aisle, Britain's 250,000 mobility scooter owners make unlikely law breakers.

But while they have little in common with teenage joyriders - the scooters, after all, have a top speed of just 8mph - most of the mainly middle-aged, respectable owners are in fact riding their electric-powered carts illegally.

Users are inadvertently breaking the law by failing to register the scooters with the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA).

The Mail on Sunday has discovered that many of the machines, which have caused a spate of accidents involving pedestrians and shoppers, are required by law to have either a tax disc or exemption certificate. Nor are most of them insured.

But local authorities and the police are failing to enforce the law - allowing ever-larger and increasingly sophisticated scooters to cause mayhem on pavements and shopping centres, where scooters are allowed up the aisles of shops.

MPs and safety campaigners have now called for the industry to be brought under control and for the DVLA to stop turning a blind eye to what amounts to a mass evasion of the road tax and safety regulations.

Originally intended as aids for the severely disabled, mobility scooters are now used by people with a much wider variety of ailments, including breathing problems, rheumatism and obesity.

Some suggest that a few are used by those who simply do not want to walk.


However, there is no requirement for the vehicles, many of which are second-hand and poorly maintained, to undergo any form of safety check. And users are free to start riding on the pavement or the road without any training, health assessment or eyesight check. Insurance is voluntary, which means anyone hurt in an accident has little chance of winning financial compensation.

There is no need to be registered disabled or to even be an OAP. The only qualification is that the user must be over 14 years old. Amid concern that some illegally-imported 'souped-up' scooters, capable of higher speeds, are in circulation, manufacturers ape the motor industry in an attempt to shed the 'disabled' tag and present their products, which sell for up to £6,000, as attractive leisure accessories. One top-of-the-range model is advertised as a 'long-range luxury' machine that 'delivers a superb performance and ease of use with sleek styling for an overall package that impresses with elegance and simplicity'.

But with a 26st scooter capable of carrying a weight of up to 39st - plus the weekly shopping in a specially-fitted basket - critics say the vehicles pose a potentially lethal threat to pedestrians.

A shopper was taken to hospital earlier this year after being knocked down by a mobility scooter in a Sainsbury's store in Exeter. And in 2004, the most recent year for which figures are available, there were a reported 1,134 incidents involving scooters, including the deaths of eight riders who were hit by cars or lorries on the open road.

Last night Ray Hodgkinson, director general of the industry body the British Healthcare Trades Association, said: 'They should be licensed just like any other vehicle under the Road Traffic Act. If they're on the road, they should have lights and indicators.

'We have a responsibility as an industry to make sure users are properly instructed. After all, these things can be lethal.'

Liberal Democrat MP Bob Russell, who has campaigned on the issue, said: 'The law in this area is extremely muddled.

'I welcome the mobility these machines give to the elderly and disabled but with freedom must come responsibility.

'We need some form of regulation - not to create another level of bureaucracy - but for the safety of users and the general public.'

A spokesman for the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents said: 'We have received a number of complaints about these scooters.

'We feel there should be a minimum requirement for third-party insurance and some training.'

The Department for Transport said: 'We are currently reviewing the rules that govern the use of these vehicles. We believe that the vast majority of users operate their vehicles safely and legally.'

Asked why the law was not being applied to scooter users, the spokesman said: 'That is a matter for local authorities and the police.'


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mortonjag 2008-03-25 16:17:16
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 25 2008, 04:08 PM) [snapback]425238[/snapback]
I thought DDF was away this week so any signing whilst still possible would be unlikely in my opinion, but maybe I'm wrong.

Where is he off to?
mortonjag 2008-03-25 16:27:40
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 25 2008, 04:19 PM) [snapback]425246[/snapback]
I never asked.

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s***ebag
mortonjag 2008-03-25 16:30:31
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 25 2008, 04:28 PM) [snapback]425253[/snapback]
You want his mobile number? laugh.gif

Can he use a mobile?

...apart from the one suspended within his four poster!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 16:34:26
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Mar 25 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]425256[/snapback]
Might be down to the fact that we aren't too good defensively!! wink.gif

I suspect that might be a definite possibility.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 17:23:16
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Mar 25 2008, 04:50 PM) [snapback]425264[/snapback]
Think you're hitting the nail right on the head with that statement - too many people placing needless demands on the service. The resources are always going to be finite, so they should be more effectively targetted to those who genuinely require them.

Not sure that all the blame can be laid at politicians' door for that one - regardless of party.

I agree entirely that politicians 'have their hands tied' with the NHS-no government craves unpopularity-but Ms Sturgeon seems to have gone out of her way to deliberately ignore the opinions and advice of experience in announcing her 'all new Scottish NHS which would meet demand without further involvement of the private sector'.

If ever there was a contradiction in terms that is it.

People who genuinely want a successful independent Scotland would IMHO be well advised to come down off cloud nine and scrutinise the long term damage this foolish young woman is causing.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 17:27:54
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 25 2008, 04:42 PM) [snapback]425260[/snapback]
Another question nicely avoided

*queue one smilie reply* wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-25 17:38:04
QUOTE(Greacenonmyass @ Mar 25 2008, 04:49 PM) [snapback]425263[/snapback]
The pair of them use the same username ending in Jag ph34r.gif [attachment=3871:dsc_0060__4_.jpg]

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Not as smart as you think-CREEP!

Good try mind.

Russell's Muscles, Mortonfag, and now this clown. dry.gif

Mortonjag is extremely handsome and looks less than half his age.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 17:54:15
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 25 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]425283[/snapback]
You think these clowns would realise theres a monkey sat next to you every week ! rolleyes.gif

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True!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 18:00:15
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 25 2008, 05:55 PM) [snapback]425290[/snapback]
Maybe he is away for the pies!!!

He brings his own nuts.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 18:04:51
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 25 2008, 06:01 PM) [snapback]425298[/snapback]
pretty snide posting pics of people on the messageboard without their permission imo

I agree forza, to say nothing of exposing those poor people to the risk of unwarranted personal assault!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 18:08:19
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 25 2008, 05:51 PM) [snapback]425286[/snapback]
I seem to remember he was pulled up by the cooncil for being a dodgy landlord. That wouldn't prejudice my thinking of course. He's a tosser alright. laugh.gif

When I was a child the only collie I'd heard of was 'Black Bob'.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 18:24:33
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Mar 25 2008, 04:50 PM) [snapback]425264[/snapback]
Think you're hitting the nail right on the head with that statement - too many people placing needless demands on the service. The resources are always going to be finite, so they should be more effectively targetted to those who genuinely require them.

Not sure that all the blame can be laid at politicians' door for that one - regardless of party.

edit: Just curious - who are the selfish people you're refering to in your sub-heading?

They come in all shapes and sizes, colours, and denominations ST.

I have frequently estimated over the years that some 20% of a G.P.s patients occupy some 80% of his time. Within that 20% there is invariably a core of genuinely needy souls with chronic or recurrent illness.

The rest I describe as 'selfish'. I already mentioned the term-'I know my rights'-used more often than not by people totally ignorant of them.

Undemanding people have every right to be upset and disappointed when the service falls short of their expectation. They are not, however, entitled to apportion blame without access to the truth.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 18:28:16
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 25 2008, 06:12 PM) [snapback]425302[/snapback]
You were reading to many comic books.

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I loved 'Black Bob', though I've discovered over the years that collies tend to be a bit sleekit. You can't beat a black lab bitch, nor will ever need to.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 18:32:10
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ Mar 25 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]425311[/snapback]
and I think that most of them have clipped my ankles at one time or another......................

I can confirm that there was NO mince talked on Saturday regarding the disabled person falling off his scooter

I love the signature-makes me think of your favourite political party's roadshow!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 18:33:10
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 25 2008, 06:26 PM) [snapback]425310[/snapback]
You guys, what are you like? rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-25 18:35:46
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 25 2008, 06:12 PM) [snapback]425303[/snapback]
is it being suggested that DDFR has a cell phone ??

reminds me of the lonely prisoner.

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or the naughty nucleus.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 18:40:40
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ Mar 25 2008, 06:36 PM) [snapback]425319[/snapback]
I picked up a kids top for my nephew at the van on Saturday for £10, and was given the choice of a free gift....a callender or a stationary set, plumped for the stationary set as it was for a wee boy anyway.

Said stationary set contains a metal pencil case, two pens, two pencils, a rubber amd a pencil sharpener, all with the Morton crest on them, not bad I thought it must sell for around £3/£4.

Not a bit of it, it carried a price tag of £10 on the rear, no wonder they weren't selling at that price!!!

Still a home top and said stationary set both for a tenner wasn't bad

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mortonjag 2008-03-25 18:47:55
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 25 2008, 06:45 PM) [snapback]425323[/snapback]
stop it now, its getting tedious.

My religion may be making me do bad things.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 18:54:48
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 25 2008, 06:51 PM) [snapback]425326[/snapback]
I actually thought Kholi was good in this

Question Time

Sorry Spurtle I did see the bloke in a pink bunnet but after ten seconds of Bawheid I was forced to switch it off.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 19:03:58
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 25 2008, 06:51 PM) [snapback]425327[/snapback]
Don't you hate me when i tell the truth?
edit : edited for better comeback (although not all that much better) tongue.gif

I hate nobody-life's too short for hatred.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 19:05:08
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 25 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]425334[/snapback]
well the thread starter has 5 hours before he gets a boot in the goolies by over 1000 people. laugh.gif

...in twenty seconds.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 19:08:31
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 25 2008, 06:56 PM) [snapback]425332[/snapback]
i think ultimately the players we have are so afraid of losing games that they get so nervous that they can't play their usual game.

when we go a goal up they are scared of losing a goal and they get nervous, usually meaning we'll end up conceding.

when we go a goal down, they're so nervous of losing the game that they panic, usually meaning we end up losing.

our players need to learn how to control the game after we've taken the lead and how to not panic when we're a goal behind.

We still lack a 'driving force' in the side-somebody that will keep us going for 90 minutes-irrespective of the score. Popularly known as 'an old head in the boilerhouse'.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 19:15:16
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 25 2008, 07:12 PM) [snapback]425341[/snapback]
20 seconds per 1000 people.

That's gonna be quite a long baw-booting! Hope I'm not near the back of the queue!

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mortonjag 2008-03-25 19:16:33
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 25 2008, 07:13 PM) [snapback]425343[/snapback]
You just fck wee boys? blink.gif

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Be well warned son!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 19:19:18
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 25 2008, 07:16 PM) [snapback]425347[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-03-25 19:22:02
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 25 2008, 07:20 PM) [snapback]425352[/snapback]
Quite fun twisting posts to make people say what you want them to say eh smile.gif

Whatever you say!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 19:23:22
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 25 2008, 07:21 PM) [snapback]425353[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-03-25 19:25:14
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 25 2008, 07:21 PM) [snapback]425354[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-03-25 19:54:41
QUOTE(standman @ Mar 25 2008, 07:50 PM) [snapback]425372[/snapback]
Going to the match doesn't have the same feel anymore...maybe it's partly to do with all the points raised in the first posters message.

It's different now...but not better.

Maybe it's when all of a sudden you realise you've spent the last twenty years hoping for Premier League Football and come to the conclusion that it probably will never happen.

Especially when you've maybe got less than twenty left! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-25 20:02:22
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 25 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]425380[/snapback]
Aitken is having yet another great season. I believe he has scored more goals than our forwards so far. That is some achivement for a midfielder.
Pity we don't go for part time players as he has not looked out of place in this league. In fact has looked a very good player indeed at this level. That's more than can be said for some ex SPL prima donna players !

The driving force we need?
mortonjag 2008-03-25 20:03:11
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Mar 25 2008, 08:01 PM) [snapback]425381[/snapback]
I see McInally's men are 1 up v Sons

Sons to win then! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-25 20:06:48
QUOTE(scott_lithgows @ Mar 25 2008, 08:02 PM) [snapback]425384[/snapback]
The half time score,s being put up at the Sinclair st end where the cal-mac advert is now,with the code letters being in the match programme.

Indeed-watching the guy on the ladder, and the barracking he ocasionally took from the crowd when he made a mistake and had to change the numbers!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 20:18:38
QUOTE(Marc @ Mar 25 2008, 08:17 PM) [snapback]425389[/snapback]
0-1 Clyde sad.gif Bradley (30)

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mortonjag 2008-03-25 20:20:36
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 25 2008, 08:18 PM) [snapback]425391[/snapback]
Come on St Johnstone!!

Clyde ARE pish mind!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 20:21:46
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Mar 25 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]425394[/snapback]
If things don't change then you may as well re-arrange the following sentance

up creek s*** paddel a without

Clyde will be defeated though Stirling may get the draw.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 20:24:40
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Mar 25 2008, 08:23 PM) [snapback]425399[/snapback]
Worse case scenario is Stirling to pick up more points as we lose our games, hopefully not unsure.gif

Moore the magician?
mortonjag 2008-03-25 20:27:16
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Mar 25 2008, 08:25 PM) [snapback]425402[/snapback]
Stirling seem to pick up points in certain games where as we are buckling at times

Moore certainly gets much from little.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 20:33:56
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 25 2008, 08:30 PM) [snapback]425408[/snapback]
True.

Clyde obviously struggling-only a matter of time.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:04:28
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Mar 25 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]425462[/snapback]
Not a case of thanking any of the other teams, we are where we are because we deserve to be. We need to win our OWN games but thats a BIG ask when it comes to Morton

We needed to win at Broadwood-many were happy with the draw!


St Johnstone are either at it or just leaving it late mind you!!!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:06:28
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 25 2008, 09:03 PM) [snapback]425467[/snapback]
2-1 biggrin.gif

Plenty time--f*ck Clyde!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:08:12
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 25 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]425476[/snapback]
we needed to win against partick and livingston, and we didnt. a draw was a decent result against clyde but lets not get into that tongue.gif

Was it f*ck but let's not go into that-Cyde are s***-the Saints will win!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:11:30 Still 25 mins left at Perth!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:14:25
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Mar 25 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]425482[/snapback]
Hey guys - just found a pic I took of CHC last time he was ovr!

Lee O'Sayer Robinson!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:17:42
QUOTE(standman @ Mar 25 2008, 08:42 PM) [snapback]425416[/snapback]
Hey dude, I'm not that old !!!

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mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:18:50
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 25 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]425480[/snapback]
Hey, I'm only human.

He's lovable BH!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:20:43
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 25 2008, 09:17 PM) [snapback]425495[/snapback]
Stirling now losing 3-2 to the Pars, Kevin Harper with a hat-trick

It's coming together!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:23:42 Plenty of time-c'mon McInnes-get the subs on!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:25:25
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 25 2008, 09:24 PM) [snapback]425510[/snapback]
FT Stirling 2-3 Dunfermline
Surely all but resigns Stirling to relegation.

C'MON THE SAINTS!!!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:27:36 JM still winning! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:29:05
QUOTE(Marc @ Mar 25 2008, 09:28 PM) [snapback]425514[/snapback]
Nope..

1-1

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NOTHING changes for the man with the folded arms!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:31:17
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 25 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]425520[/snapback]
2-2 at McDiarmid Park. smile.gif

Mortonjag COMMANDS you to win, DM-just dae it!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:34:02 [b]
EFFIN SCORE
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mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:36:45
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Mar 25 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]425528[/snapback]
c'mon mcinnes! do one for your old pals!! rolleyes.gif

Aye his golfin' buddy too by the sound of things! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:40:30
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 25 2008, 09:38 PM) [snapback]425545[/snapback]
WE ARE STAYING UP!

Mibbees aye-Mr Rae was saying in his programme notes last Saturday that he doesn't want Gretna to go to the wall!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:47:48
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 25 2008, 09:43 PM) [snapback]425561[/snapback]
Clyde have 1 point more and -19 GD We can still pick up points on them! and there's not much in the GD. Livvy's GD is out of sight at -8 but their record against the rest of the league is very poor.

We can still do it!

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Very true.

Expensive outing that one to Broadwood. Far too many excuses for an inexcusable result.

Chickens coming home to roost for Auld Shoogly, or is this what he wants?

Can DI pull one out of the hat at Palmerston

Is there any reason to be cheerful?

Is there any reason to be glum?

Will that bloody administrator please switch on the liquidiser?
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:50:48
QUOTE(mentalton @ Mar 25 2008, 09:47 PM) [snapback]425570[/snapback]
We will NOT win if in a playoff situation, how many "must win" games have we fu@ked up so far, every one.

Satan is in our camp I tell you.

NEVER a truer word spoken and I know his identity.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:55:41
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Mar 25 2008, 09:53 PM) [snapback]425585[/snapback]
laugh.gifKnowing you he is someone who own a company that makes crap sweets.

wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:56:50
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Mar 25 2008, 09:55 PM) [snapback]425588[/snapback]
Mainly McInally. I don't see how Rae can be blamed for this mess.

GROW UP
mortonjag 2008-03-25 22:00:09
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Mar 25 2008, 08:32 PM) [snapback]425409[/snapback]
"Midfielder Fabian Yantorno was released on Monday as the club could not afford the treatment required for a knee injury picked up in January."

sad news indeed to hear a player getting in that predicament.

just for mj sad.gif

A young lad who came over here all starry eyed. Just shows what happens when buffoons are allowed full control of fitba' clubs. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-25 22:03:59
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 25 2008, 10:00 PM) [snapback]425597[/snapback]
If it weren't for McInally resigning that fool would still be giving him full support.
His hands-on approach regarding transfers is known, so the inactivity during much of the summer can be criticised also.

Rae wanted JM to stay-Rae wants Gretna to remain in business-Rae again signs two 'awful nice' relative rookies-Rae is difficult to understand.

I'm past trying.

Are you up for it? wacko.gif wacko.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-25 22:08:19
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Mar 25 2008, 10:03 PM) [snapback]425601[/snapback]
I doubt Irons will be told who to bring in, or that any 'Dougie transfers' will be made from under him.
It was JM's failing that he had no authority at Morton.

GROW UP
mortonjag 2008-03-25 22:12:52
QUOTE(ianton @ Mar 25 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]425607[/snapback]
mj would blame rae if he farted.he's best on ignore.he's got to hide behind a keyboard to slate him.he had his chance to say what he wanted last week and bottled it.so why listen to the ramblings of an old fool.

laugh.gif

If only you knew the full story.


IF F*CKING ONLY

Today I received a copy of an e-mail which would wipe that daft leer of your face. And NO I won't be breaching confidentiality, so I'll call myself a liar to save all the children the bother, but two or three folk know EXACTLY what I'm talking about.

RAE HAS BECOME A LIABILITY. Plain and simple.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 22:15:45
QUOTE(div @ Mar 25 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]425610[/snapback]
McGuffie, Jenkins, Irons, Collins, Innes.

I see a pattern developing here.

Morton, living the (second hand) dream tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-25 22:21:16
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 25 2008, 10:15 PM) [snapback]425622[/snapback]
you got an email offering you viagra at a competative price didnt you?

its just Junk mail MJ, dont waste your hard earned money please. sad.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

It was actually a copy of some official correspondence concerning GMFC young man.

I do not describe Mr Rae as 'a liability' for nothing. It is my considered opinion, and takes into account the amusingly remote possibility of civil action. Mortonjag does not lie.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 22:24:41
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Mar 25 2008, 10:17 PM) [snapback]425624[/snapback]
Grow up.

You disbelieve me as predicted.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 22:26:18
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 25 2008, 10:21 PM) [snapback]425632[/snapback]
unsure.gif I'm glad he didn't.

Very true-they are after all, only impressionable young boys.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 22:26:52
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Mar 25 2008, 10:21 PM) [snapback]425633[/snapback]
...And fork out how much of his own money, exactly?

Whose money?
mortonjag 2008-03-25 22:28:14
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 25 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]425635[/snapback]
Shouldn't that be 'extremely remote' ?

No DE-I'm sure the Tilly report would give rise to a great deal of amusement! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-25 22:42:43
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 25 2008, 10:29 PM) [snapback]425642[/snapback]
Rae chooses the management.
Rae has considerable influence of player signing policy.
Rae came out with neutralising garbage like this during the close season:
http://www.gmfc.net/chairman/news-view.asp?page=14&

Rae felt we only needed a few to make the step-up.
The "negativity boys" had concerns with this.
"There are none so blind as those who will not see".

He is now a liabiity-plain and simple-what's the score with Alistair Donald-apparently ZILCH-what clout does Crawford have-ZILCH-Arthur and Iain Brown off the Board-Jim McColl a figurehead-and the good ship Shoogly is heading steadily for the rocks.

Does he actually WANT relegation-it's not an unreasonable question to ask. I don't think he really does-he's just so far up his own arse he can't see anything straight when it comes to Morton.


Bring on the usual abuse by all means. Just don't say this demented old s***ebag didn't warn you-three bloody seasons ago.

mortonjag 2008-03-25 22:46:49
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 25 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]425618[/snapback]
So you think pink turbans are funny?
Racist. laugh.gif

Queer I'd suggest.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 22:49:53
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 25 2008, 10:45 PM) [snapback]425655[/snapback]
VT as much as I agree with what you have said and DDFR has shown limitations in his leadership , now is not the time for the public lynching .

We can still survive and a new management team who deserve our backing .

After the last ball is kicked and we know our fate then we can argue the pros and cons of DDFR and the McInally debacle .

Clyde got a great result tonight and it shows what we have to do to avoid a play off spot .

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So if we're relegated Chris-are you up for it? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-25 22:54:33
QUOTE(.:BrIDo:. @ Mar 25 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]425663[/snapback]
It's the confidence this could instill in clyde and help them go on and win a few more.
Can't see the same confidence in our side at the minute. And if we got to a play offspot. . we'll go down, I reckon.

That worries me too-Irons and Collins appear to have been the last throw of the dice for us.

We'll soon run out of the 'one game at a time ' excuses. Backs to the wall time now and nothing short of three points is enough on Saturday. Clyde managed it tonight.

Will we? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-25 22:57:42
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Mar 25 2008, 10:55 PM) [snapback]425666[/snapback]
so where is the creedance in this rumour, would love to see innes at scappa but i just cant see it. He has now been released so what is the prospect of him lining up for the ton.....................time is running out and I want to book a space in the queue for the baw bootin

There's no queue-it's a scramble.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 23:12:02
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 25 2008, 11:04 PM) [snapback]425677[/snapback]
Ernie , as I posted above . We need to get behind the players and coaches for the remainder of the season . The last thing we want is to convay to the players we have given up the fight .

By no means am I saying that there should not be recriminations for this seasons obvious shortcomings .

I had said before tht he damage had been done and Irons and Collins would need longer . From being at he Q+A last week it ws apparent that Dougie is still holding onto the statement that is was only in the third round of games did we come unstuck . If he fails to see where he is going wrong then the feeling I have is that things will never radically improve as they should .

One thing hat did annoy me from last week was Jim McColl , defending the youth set up when the man never goes anywhere near it to comment on . What is the point of having a fans representative on the board when he happily goes along with things when they clearly are not .

I don't honestly think the players give a flying f*ck any more Chris-I'm sorry-I know you're impressed by the new set up, and I'm not saying DI/DC are necessarily duffers, but Rae's comment when he wept crocodie tears over JM was 'sadly it's a results driven business', and results ain't improving much.

I'll be at Palmerston on Saturday, and I'll be getting right behind the boys as always. Hopefully, for once, they will do something for us.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 23:13:22
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 25 2008, 11:06 PM) [snapback]425680[/snapback]
I've ordered my pitchfork online laugh.gif

That would be most uncivilised surely. I was thinking more in terms of some scaffolding near the top of the Victoria Tower.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 23:17:16
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 25 2008, 10:32 PM) [snapback]425644[/snapback]
been flung aff it a couple of times. humourless twats

I went to school in Paisley-do you think I'd be welcome?
mortonjag 2008-03-26 06:50:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 26 2008, 06:46 AM) [snapback]425739[/snapback]
only if you use Paisley grammer

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the "e" was deliberate.

smile.gif

Or is that Kelsey not Paisley ?

laugh.gif

I'd just call myself Kibbleton!
mortonjag 2008-03-26 06:52:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 25 2008, 11:40 PM) [snapback]425708[/snapback]
Probably, but he set it up tongue.gif

unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 06:57:43
QUOTE(El gofer @ Mar 25 2008, 11:20 PM) [snapback]425693[/snapback]
Eh..... Jim McColl is not a fans rep on the board. He is the rep of the Supporters Trust who are shareholders.

How can you ask whats the score with Alister Donald?.... eff all???!!... The guy has been involved for under 2 months. What exactly are you wanting him to do? What has the club done wrong since he joined the board??
Are you now blaiming Arthur as well?? Do you speak from a position of authority or, as usual are you just pontificating from you ivory tower??

We are going to stay up on the park. With the new management team.
Nothing is going to change behind the scenes before the end of the season.
We need to stay up.
We must get behind the players we have because its in their hands. Scary I know.

Now even though you like saying I told you so and pointing out occasions when this has been the case, can you think of the greater good at this point, please.

CMON THE F4KN TON!!!!

Why does thinking of the GREATER GOOD-your words-prohibit valid questions at any point in a given season?

CMON THE F4KN TON is not the same as CMON AULD F4KKER

That's the whole point!

C'MON YE TON
mortonjag 2008-03-26 07:00:53
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Mar 25 2008, 11:59 PM) [snapback]425720[/snapback]
Ahh, but didnt someone at Morton not that long ago say we are treating every game left like a cup final. So far we have drawn with Clyde, drawn with Livi, lost to Hamilton, drawn with Partick. Doesn't look good i any way whatsoever imo.

Correct Gibby-IF DI/DC were appointed to save us from relegation with the current squad, they're not setting the heather alight.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 07:03:08
QUOTE(El gofer @ Mar 26 2008, 12:16 AM) [snapback]425725[/snapback]
Chrissiboi, with regard to the youth set up I am in total agreement with you. I know you have a vested interest (family??) apart from it just being the ton. I speak to boys and parents involved and know its a joke. I also know the guy involved in the previous winning team ( I work with him,....the other big Joe!)

I just wouldnt put the blame at Jim McColl's door.

Mr Rae has yet to accept the wisdom of a youth set up, or so I'm led to believe.

This may perhaps be a factor of his age. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 07:08:48
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 26 2008, 12:37 AM) [snapback]425727[/snapback]
I agree. I had rather hoped that Jenkins might be a driving force in the middle but its not worked out that way - so far. I'm hopeful he'll come good. Our team are no longer a young team but they have all missed having a few experienced hands in the team to bring them on when they were younger and that's why they look a bit naieve, or did do.

The sort of guys I have in mind are the likes of Tosh or McFarlane at QoS, the baldy midfielder at Hamilton who's name escapes me, Rowson at Thistle etc. Innes would be good if we could get him but the sort of man I'm thinking of is usually a midfield general rather than a forward or defender.

Total agreement in that Tonsilitis, and it's only what many have been saying for OVER THREE SEASONS.

Look at Clyde-I've not seen them since Albertz arrived but in the game where they beat us 2-1 they showed the guts required, and now they've the experience of a 38 year od Hun in the armoury too.

I'm praying we stay up, and I'm praying DI/DC come good and are given the freedom they need.

I'm already sensing, however, that things may not have improved as much as we'd hoped.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 07:15:36
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 25 2008, 11:22 PM) [snapback]425694[/snapback]
I feel that Irons and Collins have impoved things ( feck I couldv'e improved things ) but the limitations within our squad must be very frustratiing to work with .

I wonder if Irons thought he players were ripping the pish when he asked all he central midfielders to step foward .



....and LEAFY, Lee, and Davie McGurn were left looking like spare pr*cks at a wh*re's wedding.


QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 25 2008, 11:41 PM) [snapback]425709[/snapback]
The overall team performance has improved since the new management team have come in.
But we still struggle to score, we still give away daft goals, and we still can't compete with most teams in midfield.

It's between us and Clyde now. Livi are a better team than Clyde (and probably us too) so they will pick up the points required.
It's not all over, but going by past team performances in games we have to win. This squad of players just doesn't fill me with confidence that they have the bottle to win vital games.
Sorry if that sounds negative, but we have been let down so many times over the last few seasons by this bunch of bottle-merchants.

My only hope is the new management team are better at motivating them for these types of games.


Wise words Sir-just stay away from Bawheid's lot and you may go far!


QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 26 2008, 12:39 AM) [snapback]425728[/snapback]
this will never happen, its time people stepped out from their little fantasy land and realised that there is absolutely 0% chance of our fans helping the team in the way you have just said, no matter how many of us wants it to happen.

i think with our fans there used to be a few leaders and a lot of followers when it came to singing, as in people would start and everyone else would join in. But we dont seem to have any leaders anymore and the whole cowshed is just a big group of people waiting for everyone else to start singing so they can aswell....so the result is we wont ever sing and get behind the team.

There's no harm in dreaming PT-don't knock those who can see happiness on the grayest of days-it takes all kinds.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 07:21:27 I take it Innes may still be coming!
He's been released by the Administrator because he's perceived as marketable, and our record of late in gaining 'marketable' players has been deplorable.

I can see him going to one of the first division sides with plans in place for next season. dry.gif

mortonjag 2008-03-26 07:25:16
QUOTE(grnklad2006ton @ Mar 25 2008, 11:54 PM) [snapback]425718[/snapback]
I truly think we are in for the play offs for sure this year, after Clyde winning up in Perth they will be buzzing after that, can see them only getting stronger. Its now up to Morton to go and get a few big results away from home. However with queens away and partick and co can anyone see that happening.

I think the penalty miss at home to partick, then that draw on sat with livi will come back to haunt us. Then there’s the small matter of Dunfermline coming to town, I cant honestly say that that’s a guaranteed 3 points. When you really look at it, then I think we are in trouble but I hope the boys get a great unexpected result away from home just like Clyde did tonight, I mean seriously did anyone expect that.

Worrying times ahead folks, please not the playoffs we know how much bottle we have when it comes to things like that. C’mon Morton time to fight for your right to stay in this division sad.gif . This could be interesting ......

The Broadwood game was THE one we had to win. David Irons stated that quite categorically before the match, but even HE couldn't get a result in a cruncher.


I'd hate us to go down, and still believe Gretna will be our salvation, if all else fails.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 08:03:15
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Mar 26 2008, 07:51 AM) [snapback]425752[/snapback]
There's a bit in The Sun today (pg 53) saying he is signing for us on a 3 year deal worth £1k a week.

If that's true, it's a hugely positive statement of intent.

mortonjag 2008-03-26 08:05:08
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Mar 26 2008, 07:53 AM) [snapback]425754[/snapback]
One good result for Clyde and it's doom and gloom again. For fuxsake one result doesn't make a season. We may be ninth today but could easily be 7th by Saturday at 4.45.

So sadly true-what could have been-eh!
mortonjag 2008-03-26 08:05:53
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Mar 26 2008, 07:52 AM) [snapback]425753[/snapback]
A typical anal comment from the Record as usual.

Anal crap?
mortonjag 2008-03-26 08:12:53
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 26 2008, 08:01 AM) [snapback]425755[/snapback]
Why you pesky solado you. mad.gif

Just you wait simple_ton, the next time I'm over at your place for a swim I'm going to pee in your goldfish bowl.
Ha ha.




Carp by nature!
mortonjag 2008-03-26 09:12:28
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 26 2008, 08:36 AM) [snapback]425764[/snapback]
ah cassandra - would you say it was your policies or your presentation that let's you down? biggrin.gif

Neither quite so much as that apostrophe does you, Trumpet.


3/10 Must try MUCH harder. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 09:19:25
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 26 2008, 08:28 AM) [snapback]425761[/snapback]
It would help us if Gretna were to go belly up before the end of the season. I understand that if they last until the end of the season, the rules for relegation are different, but if they fold priot to the end of the season, ninth in division 1 will not be involved in the playoffs - that honour going to tenth which might be Stirling with any luck.

Tonsilitis can maybe advise, but as a creditor of Gretna, can I insist on the club being wound up as it is obvious that they have no visible means of support? - income from matches is unlikely to get anywhere near the running costs, and the longer it goes on the larger the fee taken by the administrator. Is there a process whereby I can insist on immediate winding up (without expensive legal processes)?

I would love to have as my signature "The man who saved the Ton from relegation"...



'Frankly, I hope that Gretna do survive; one never likes to see any team having to close.......


There are reports that an Irish Consortium may takeover Gretna; hopefully something good will come out of the talks currently taking place between the Consortium and the Administrator.'


Hmm! wink.gif



You probably know all this stuff Alibi, but may find this useful-it's not a link-just Google it!


Dealing with Debt - How to Wind up a Company that owes you Money
mortonjag 2008-03-26 10:02:56
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 26 2008, 08:48 AM) [snapback]425769[/snapback]
A four page thread based on a rumour posted by someone with 60 posts sort of proves my point of this being a forum for the mentally ill. Innes may or may not sign but as of now there's no evidence to say he will.

As to Div's point above. I'm very uncomfortable with the influx of Gretna players and staff into my club. Gretna was arguably the worst thing to happen to Scottish football in my lifetime (it's early in the day and my brain is not working yet but I'm struggling to think of anything worse). The arrogance shown by the players and staff as they were promoted through the leagues sickened me and now we're getting saddled with them.
We may as well go the whole hog and get the lot of them, after all they 'lived the dream'. Oh and I know of a fantastic former Chief Executive, one who 'would have done it anyway without Mileson's money, who is looking for a job at the moment.


To which we both contribute Mr McArthur!


QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 26 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]425774[/snapback]
Davie you cannot blame the players for the Gretna fiasco, they did what most professionals footballers would do to support their families and that is play football for decent wages, in my opinion players proved that they were good enough to do the job in hand, although I agree the Gretna thing was no good for Scottish football, surely you cannot put any of the blame on the players for doing the job they were being paid to do.
There is only one person to blame in this whole affair and thats Brooks Mileson (ill or not).

mentally?
mortonjag 2008-03-26 10:04:39
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 26 2008, 10:00 AM) [snapback]425799[/snapback]
He's 31 tongue.gif

Which is YOUNG!
mortonjag 2008-03-26 10:17:24
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 26 2008, 10:10 AM) [snapback]425804[/snapback]
It's also quite amusing that so many on this forum were calling Gretna players 'mercenaries' a couple of seasons back are now wanting to sign them all.

Professional footballers are by definition mercenary.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 10:19:22
QUOTE(Carl Bertelson @ Mar 26 2008, 10:10 AM) [snapback]425805[/snapback]
Court order to wind them up will do the trick.....the only reason creditors don't do it is because they have this false hope that they will get their money back and they don't want to be labeled as the person who put the team out of business.

Imagine that.....saving Morton from relegation and not even scoring a goal laugh.gif
As for the people waiting in the wings to buy the team.......the consortium...if I had a pound for every time I heard that when Morton were in administration I could have bailed them out myself.

You never know tho' Mileson may make a miraculous recovery and do John Boyle.....but you wont get your money.... Court order it is Alibi.

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mortonjag 2008-03-26 10:20:36
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 26 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]425778[/snapback]
But will the Brisbane Street shop remain?

If not... mad.gif

...you may shed a few pounds? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 10:24:51
QUOTE(dazed @ Mar 26 2008, 09:47 AM) [snapback]425794[/snapback]
While I would agree with a lot of what you have to say
unsure.gif I thought I had?

Nope-you tried to defend the SNP by stating-possibly correctly- that Labour have been worse-that's called scoring political points.

I don't do politics.

Do you think Sturgeon's doing a good job for those in real need?
mortonjag 2008-03-26 10:28:48
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 26 2008, 08:22 AM) [snapback]425760[/snapback]
IMHO the problem is we are suffering from some lamentably poor signings by the previous management team. We don't have a decent striker, Spoonsy apart when he chooses to turn up. We have some willing strikers who try hard, but they just don't seem to be good enough. Or big enough.

Deego says WAKEY'S a big lad.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 10:31:04
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 26 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]425813[/snapback]
McGuffie's been there since day one, near enough; Jenkins joined when Gretna were in Division 1 from a no-hope team on the slide (and one to which he'd previously been very loyal); Innes... OK, I'll give you Innes tongue.gif

I don't see why guys who have given good service to a club but now need to move on should be regarded as damaged goods. It's really not their fault.

bankrupt stock?
mortonjag 2008-03-26 10:35:42
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Mar 26 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]425818[/snapback]
Rotten banter?

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mortonjag 2008-03-26 10:54:06
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Mar 26 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]425826[/snapback]
It is on the BBC's "gossip column" that we are ready to sign him (though I think their source was The Sun....whose source was probably this thread!)

Still, you never know!

1k per week over THREE years?
mortonjag 2008-03-26 10:58:14
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Mar 26 2008, 10:54 AM) [snapback]425829[/snapback]
What is the significance of the above?!

Signifies you don't read!


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There's a bit in The Sun today (pg 53) saying he is signing for us on a 3 year deal worth £1k a week.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 11:24:01
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 26 2008, 11:03 AM) [snapback]425833[/snapback]
You can't get a court order while they are in administration - I have a solicitor's bill in this morning for various legal processes which I had commenced and they have all been a waste of time and money as the administration stops them proceeding.

Stop press: Just phoned the administrator to ask if they could save Morton and they told me that Gretna FC are being funded by the SPL until the end of the season. She said that this is being done in such a way that creditors positions will not be worsened. That raises some serious questions about the SPL interfering in financial matters that affect others. I'm not convinced that it will leave creditors unaffected.

I'm going to try another route - I'm writing to the administrators to complain about trading while insolvent - they say they will investigate if this has been occurring - in which case I can sue the directors personally.



Sorry guys - looks like we'll have to rely on the players to save us.

Well she would-wouldn't she.

Alibi it f*cking stinks-the SPL have no interest in the well being of Gretna, let alone its creditors. Furthermore the creditors position is potentially worsened every day this runs on. Cash flow is a consideration in all businesses-some other poor wee soul could go to the wall as bloody SPL Nero fiddles.

There MUST be a way of legally questioning the competence of the Administrator-SURELY?
mortonjag 2008-03-26 13:45:15
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 26 2008, 11:41 AM) [snapback]425844[/snapback]
Really??? blink.gif
I'm so glad you post on here MJ, I don't know how I'd manage otherwise. wink.gif

No probs Mr McArthur.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 13:52:14
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 26 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]425896[/snapback]
im not criticising the fans for it, infact i stated that most of fans were standing waiting to sing when everyone else does.

im just a realist to know that we wont be signing in our last games, everyone has seen first hand what morton fans are like when they are nervous, silent but deadly like many of my farts.

and yes, i am a follower. always have been and always will be. without followers there would be no leaders. tongue.gif

Without explosions there would be no bombs! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 14:05:29
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Mar 26 2008, 12:49 PM) [snapback]425877[/snapback]
Aye, looks like they made the Tele look a tad stupid with Del's comments today.



Published: Wednesday, 26th March, 2008 12:00
Innes bid unlikely to succeed

By Roger Graham
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MORTON assistant manager Derek Collins today revealed that Gretna centre back Chris Innes is unlikely to be joining the Cappielow club.

He said: “It looks as if it may not happen. The player has other options and he may possibly take his chances down south.â€

Morton had made an ambitious bid to bring the player to Greenock and Collins said: “We tried to push the boat out to get one of the best centre backs in Scotland, but it’s not set in stone.

“I don’t think it’s a definite goer.â€

Innes has also been linked with Dundee.



Whom to believe-the local paper and club assistant manager who has close links with Gretna, or others?
mortonjag 2008-03-26 14:10:37
QUOTE(Muz @ Mar 26 2008, 02:07 PM) [snapback]425917[/snapback]
It's true.

WHAT's true-apples are green if they're not red? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 14:14:55
QUOTE(Muz @ Mar 26 2008, 02:11 PM) [snapback]425920[/snapback]
If that's a reply at what I said I cant see it as the boring p***k's on ignore.

was it as boring as I suspect?

Paranoia will get you everywhere ya daft c*nt! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 14:19:02
QUOTE(Mick @ Mar 26 2008, 02:15 PM) [snapback]425922[/snapback]
Confirmed.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Aye very good smartarse-you've been girnin' yer face off all morning.

That clown posts 'It's true'.


How bloody intelligent and informative. We were already told it was true by another eejit over 36 hours ago.

Some folk are genuinely interested in finding the truth. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 14:22:36
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 26 2008, 02:17 PM) [snapback]425924[/snapback]
without the internet there would be no Mortonjag. Come back *careful, or I'll close down the Internet*, all is forgiven! tongue.gif

.....and undoubtedly poor innocent old c*nts would be getting beaten up in the streets of Greenock by the mindless morons who use Jag therapy every day!
mortonjag 2008-03-26 14:23:50
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 26 2008, 02:22 PM) [snapback]425928[/snapback]
this may be true, but unfortunatly a lot of the players we have at the club are at the same level as Templeman and Linn. We could have used both of them in the 2nd half of the season, espescially Templeman who is far better than Graham and Wake to bring on if Weatherson is having a bad game, and also Linn to bring on if Russell is having a bad game.

wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 14:27:45
QUOTE(dazed @ Mar 26 2008, 02:19 PM) [snapback]425927[/snapback]
I don't do politics you Constantly attack Nicola Sturgeon, if thats not doing politics then I dont know what is? unsure.gif

I would agree that it is unlikely that the NHS will ever meet demand , you are also right when you say some people practically have a season ticket for their doctors and run to them at the drop of a hat for the most trivial of things and deny some people who really need access to a doctor because of their actions, but how do you stop this , I mean who will decide who really needs to see a doctor and who doesnt?

I would also agree that it would be foolish not to consult with those who work at the sharp end of the NHS , I have worked in it, have three qualified sisters who still work in it and have a brother in law who is a consultant, anyone who did not at least take on board these sort of peoples advice and others like them( I exclude myself from that list as I am not qualified but as a member of the public do have an opinion) before they make decisions on the future of the NHS is silly to think they can sort it all themselves,however well intentioned they are.

All I would say is she has only had a very short period of time to act , less than a year , at least give her a chance before putting her to sword and save your scathing attacks for those who had decades to act but did little or nothing, it is they who deserve your scorn more.

Finally I wasnt scoring political points I was telling the truth thats all.

You seem in a rather back handed way to be acknowledging her inadequacy.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 14:29:52
QUOTE(Muz @ Mar 26 2008, 02:24 PM) [snapback]425932[/snapback]
I had to unclick this to see what the fanny had said this time.

I am neither a clown or another eejit- maybe I did find the truth, eh, ya old f***in trumpet?

f*** off.

Your comments indicate otherwise-CLOWN.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 14:31:26
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 26 2008, 02:27 PM) [snapback]425935[/snapback]
is this going to be another thread taken over by MJ and people arguing? if so tell me now in advance so i can go paint something and watch it dry.

Don't paint yer dick then or you'll catch the Jag's next post.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 14:39:19
QUOTE(Muz @ Mar 26 2008, 02:28 PM) [snapback]425937[/snapback]
I agree mate, and I am sorry in advance if that happens. My last post on it.

Apologies folks. sleep.gif

TY
mortonjag 2008-03-26 14:40:17
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 26 2008, 02:34 PM) [snapback]425940[/snapback]
i've found that very useful in the past when ive woken up and found you sitting over me breathing heavily.

talk about being caught red handed. mellow.gif
right enough.
Back over to Chris Innes in the studio!

In yer dreams son! cool.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 14:42:34
QUOTE(Jackie @ Mar 26 2008, 02:40 PM) [snapback]425944[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2008-03-26 14:49:31 For the third time this season, the judging panel consisting of representitives of the Scottish Media have voted Jim McInally the SFL 2nd Division Manager of the Month.

Jim was nominated following the "excellent form shown by the Cappielow club during the course of last month."
mortonjag 2008-03-26 14:51:34
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 26 2008, 02:49 PM) [snapback]425948[/snapback]
On Saturday a few of us are taking the train down to Dumfries. 3 Ton fans and a part-time Doonhamer.

As part of this deal the Doonhamer came in the Morton end in the cup game so I am repaying this by going in their end on Saturday. This was meant to be done at the first away game there of the season but I couldn't make it at the last minute.

So basically I'm wondering what I should wear.

I just got the home top so want to wear that and reckon a jacket over it alone with a blue and white hooped scarf would be fine. I really don't see there being any bother if - on the off chance - someone sees my true colours.

...or should I just go neutral?

Or even go buy a Queens top? laugh.gif

Wear Gretna colours-that's where the fifteen of them go anyway those days.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 14:55:44
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Mar 26 2008, 01:07 PM) [snapback]425892[/snapback]
A guy on his own, in Funworld, on the internet.... that's a bit Gary Glitter, no?

laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 14:57:13
QUOTE(Muz @ Mar 26 2008, 02:55 PM) [snapback]425955[/snapback]
The Jug.

Wouldnt lie about the other thing.

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mortonjag 2008-03-26 15:18:14
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Mar 26 2008, 03:08 PM) [snapback]425964[/snapback]
Does anyone else rate him this Highly ?

Whats the defence line up gonna be now ?

Graecen -- Innes -- Harding

Is there actually a topic on this board that MJ doesnt try to take over ?

You must be psychic-the Monkey and I were just commenting that it only seems to be the forum weans who are interested in wrestling, PS3 games, what are you listening to/drinking/ who would you like to shag at the moment.


Trouble is, they also hi-jack the adult threads and get upset when they can't cope. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 15:22:07
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 26 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]425965[/snapback]
Muz how sure are you? I've just been told he defo aint signed yet.

unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 15:31:43
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 26 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]425968[/snapback]
Thats the way I was told it. unsure.gif

nothing more nothing less.



QUOTE(Mr H Palms @ Mar 26 2008, 03:29 PM) [snapback]425970[/snapback]
ive just been told the same

It doesn't really mean very much-does it?
mortonjag 2008-03-26 15:37:54
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 26 2008, 03:35 PM) [snapback]425972[/snapback]
Innes has to take his p45 and his new contract to the Scottish FA who then need to send that to Fifa to confirm it, it may take a day or two find out where he is going.

Are you just spelling out the legislation Bryan, or are you suggesting he's done a deal at Cappielow which is still to be ratified?
mortonjag 2008-03-26 15:43:56
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 26 2008, 03:38 PM) [snapback]425974[/snapback]
the first.... its on Weds Sports Report here discussing the rules http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/default.stm



Thanks-I'm still puzzled by the notion of Innes coming here on a three year contract, when we're not even guaranteed first division football next year.

QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 26 2008, 03:38 PM) [snapback]425975[/snapback]
Not unless you're the guy or lassie telling it. tongue.gif Which I'm not. sad.gif

Well all she's saying wink.gif is, 'we're still hoping'!
mortonjag 2008-03-26 15:47:16
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 26 2008, 03:41 PM) [snapback]425978[/snapback]
we will be fine biggrin.gif

tongue.gif


If you mean we'll be playing in the first division next season-aye-I have a gut feeling we'll scrape it!
mortonjag 2008-03-26 16:08:51
QUOTE(suda @ Mar 26 2008, 03:58 PM) [snapback]425984[/snapback]
yeah because he's not likely to drop down a level just for more money now is he tongue.gif


I wasn't so much thinking from the players angle-lets face it Rae could be forced to pay him £50,000 for a season in the Third Division! wink.gif


QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Mar 26 2008, 04:01 PM) [snapback]425986[/snapback]
Just been told that a certain mr Stevenson and Williams spotted at scappa this afternoon

....and on it goes! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 16:09:37
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 26 2008, 04:07 PM) [snapback]425988[/snapback]
they probably heard the home shirts are being sold for £15 now.

anyone else think there should be a rumours sub-forum or they should just be banned!

its plainly obvious that there is not one reliable source in greenock and that we are all c*nts! tongue.gif

Very true.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 16:13:06
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Mar 26 2008, 04:11 PM) [snapback]425993[/snapback]
Well with the amount of s*** floating around on this thread i thjought i'd just throw more s*** on top wink.gif

So Innes is NOT coming! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 16:16:55
QUOTE(big B @ Mar 26 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]425996[/snapback]
Innes is live on Sky Sports NEWS at 1630 hrs.

source?
mortonjag 2008-03-26 16:20:12
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Mar 26 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]425999[/snapback]
not a rumour but sky sports news are going to interview Chris Innes at around 1630 thats half past four in case anyone does not work by 24 hour clock. Have said on here before that half the lies folk tell on here are not true but I hope we do get this guy. it is becoming another jenkins saga but that turned out ok.

Sounds like the smart chappie and his agent are orchestrating this quite well.


Deja f*ckin' vu.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 16:22:30
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Mar 26 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]426001[/snapback]
sky sports news wink.gif

RLY! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 17:14:58
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 26 2008, 04:48 PM) [snapback]426028[/snapback]
Not true I'm afraid. sad.gif

The Chief Exec of the SFL was on Radio Scotland last night and stated that even if Gretna go bust the play offs will happen at the end of the season in the format that was put in place at the start of the season -

I reckon they'll allow the play offs to go ahead and if Gretna die and they need to re adjust the leagues they will promote the losing play-off finalist.

So we may only need to beat Alloa over two games.

But then again it might be Peterhead ,. ohmy.gif

Do you mean the final would still be played even though both teams were guaranteed to be in Division 1?
mortonjag 2008-03-26 17:24:08 Time will tell. I tend to accept what Derek Collins has said. Our club has naturally been interested.


Leaked story about Morton offering 1k per week over three years is like the opening bid at an auction-possibly just a marketing ploy.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 17:31:38
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 26 2008, 04:41 PM) [snapback]426014[/snapback]
Aint been shopping for food yet. Don't have a kitchen. I asked a couple of Scottish chaps I met and they never had a clue. Even if I found them I'd need to hand them into the kitchen and ask them to fry them up for me.

You sound downright miserable son-I wish I could give you a big 'there there' cuddle. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 17:51:34 So Innes is probaby not coming and we have a game on Saturday. We've done quite well at Palmerston this season-maybe there's indeed something in this 'luck' thing.

Will it be a handsome victory, a convincing draw, or just more of the same?

I'm always optimistic before games-well ALMOST always, but I just can't see us beating the Doonhamers again in their own backyard.

If we can take a draw from this I guess we have to be content, though in terms of survival, nothing short of three points will really do.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 17:54:02
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 26 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]426064[/snapback]
blink.gif Only if the Gretna situation is not resolved at the time of the final.

The play-offs start before the SPL finishes so it is not that unlikely that the final will have been played before the Administrators eventually throw the towel in as I'm sure they will use the Summer to find a buyer.

But hey, thanks for making me clear that up for all the other small minded pedants here.
- oh? just you is it?

Oh well wink.gif

laugh.gif

Believe it or not I asked you a sincere question, and look what I got in return.

Oh well. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 17:59:30
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 26 2008, 05:58 PM) [snapback]426072[/snapback]
Fair enough. I apologise. smile.gif

wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 18:09:05
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Mar 26 2008, 06:06 PM) [snapback]426080[/snapback]
I reckon Innes will try his luck finding a club in England and if he cannot find one by Thursday midnight, he may then come back and entertain our offer; but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Sounds about right.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 18:23:16 Is it not bad enough as it stands?

We've struggled all season, and are in danger of relegation.

Gretna are totally f*cked, but it suits the SPL to keep them playing till AFTER our season's finished.

It seems we could have to wait on tenterhooks pending their final demise (or survival in division 1-HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA) mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif


As always, money talks and the smaller clubs suffer. The whole thing's a shambes, and it's being worsened by pure greed on the part of the SPL.

They are paying to keep Gretna afloat meantime.

HOW MUCH are they paying that bloody administrator to ignore the true priorities?


CRIMINAL BEHAVIOUR
mortonjag 2008-03-26 18:26:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 26 2008, 06:25 PM) [snapback]426093[/snapback]
HOW MUCH are they paying that bloody administrator to ignore the true priorities?

simple question

simple answer - enough.

How do you think Alibi feels ?

mad.gif

Homicidal I'd imagine Newt!
mortonjag 2008-03-26 18:29:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 26 2008, 06:23 PM) [snapback]426090[/snapback]
Come on you two.

Just because you both come from Kilmacolm there is no need to get all lovey dovey.

smile.gif

sad.gif


My Auntie Jenny, and my cousin, and my sister and brother in law live in that fine village.

I am but a poor boy though my story's seldom told.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 18:32:44
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 26 2008, 06:14 PM) [snapback]426087[/snapback]
Condolences to Davie and the family.
As for Innes, I still think he'll sign.

Aye-for the highest bidder!
mortonjag 2008-03-26 18:53:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 26 2008, 06:44 PM) [snapback]426104[/snapback]
do you remember April 1 2007 ?

Alibi should have got some dosh then.

sad.gif

The Administrator is not patently acting in the true interests of the creditors-I'd imagine many others have been owed since before that date too.

How would he feel if he had to wait two years for 'a penny in the pound' instead of pocketing a fistful of readies from the SPL?
mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 18:58:48
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 26 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]426101[/snapback]
He was close to suicide whilst playing for Morton.

Is that not the norm? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 19:01:01
QUOTE(stuart @ Mar 26 2008, 06:54 PM) [snapback]426118[/snapback]
Big article about Keenan on the back of the Ayrshire Post today. Headline "LOOK WHO THAT IS" and just basically says he was playing against Ayr in a bounce game on Monday (Andy McLaren also played 20 minutes). Reid very keen on signing him. Reid says "Dean has been a great addition to the squad, in many cases doing the dirty jobs, making the challenges, taking the knocks, working hard for the team all over the pitch and when the opportunity has arisen, making some telling passes. His attitude and workrate makes him the exact type of player I want to bring to the club"

Sounds like Deano-Brian Reid rates him more highly than do certain football afficionados and snobs, it would appear! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 19:06:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 26 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]426126[/snapback]
Gidday SmithsTon,

naw, mate, I'm just a lover.

But, if I was leaving Gretna ...

Asking only workman's wages
I come looking for a job
But I get no offers.

sad.gif sad.gif

Just a come-on from the whores on Seventh Avenue
I do declare, there were times when I was so lonesome
I took some comfort there ???? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 19:11:35 It clearly depends on our situation and plans-how can anybody possibly make sensible suggestions until we know if we're still in the first division.

They're all good second division players IMO.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 19:15:10
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 26 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]426139[/snapback]
not the behaviour that I would expect of a Kilmacolm lad, educated at Paisley Grammar.

sad.gif


Then Im laying out my winter clothes and wishing I was gone,
Going home, where the new york city winters arent bleedin me.
Leadin me, to Kilmacolm.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 19:22:42
QUOTE(edd @ Mar 26 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]426145[/snapback]
delictual behaviour, possibly, but not criminal i don't think ...

Edd -you're the law man-not me!


I believe that if the SPL is knowingly infuencing the Administrator to the detriment of the creditors, it should be liable to criminal prosecution! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 19:24:10
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 26 2008, 07:18 PM) [snapback]426149[/snapback]
oh no, not another incipient legal wrangle wink.gif

libel, anyone?

F*CK OFF YOU


Edd is studying proper law at a proper university.

He is a good chap.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 19:24:57
QUOTE(Waverley @ Mar 26 2008, 07:21 PM) [snapback]426153[/snapback]
The SPL will keep them afloat until the season is over. They'll be relegated to the SFL and the SPL will be happy to wash their hands off them.

CRIMINALS mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 19:27:25
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 26 2008, 07:16 PM) [snapback]426147[/snapback]
for once it is not just your opinion, they have proven that they are good second division players.

In your opinion.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 19:29:36
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 26 2008, 07:23 PM) [snapback]426156[/snapback]
man bites dog smile.gif

He is a good Kilmacomic-he apologised graciously, as I often do too.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 19:31:50
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 26 2008, 07:30 PM) [snapback]426165[/snapback]
he doesn't think it's criminal then? laugh.gif

He has indeed proffered his opinion!
mortonjag 2008-03-26 19:33:40
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 26 2008, 07:12 PM) [snapback]426143[/snapback]
guilty as charged laugh.gif and I'd ask for a trailing 's' to be taken into consideration m'lud

you can, however, see what i was thinking rolleyes.gif

Aye-you were thinking, 'I'll noise up that poor old c*nt because I'm bored'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 19:37:19
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 26 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]426167[/snapback]
rocking horse sh1t is rare on this board, as i'm sure you'll agree smile.gif

Do rocking horses require to defaecate?
mortonjag 2008-03-26 20:13:28
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 26 2008, 07:43 PM) [snapback]426176[/snapback]
a rare laugh.gif to that smile.gif

although what i was referring to was the grammatical quandary betrayed by the b*****d apostrophe

Stop using big words.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 20:15:12
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 26 2008, 07:46 PM) [snapback]426181[/snapback]
rarely dear, rarely huh.gif

Sometimes? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 20:17:22
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 26 2008, 07:43 PM) [snapback]426178[/snapback]
The job description sounds like that already performed by Scott McLaughlin. I cannot believe that at a time when we already acknowledge that the squad of which Keenan was a part of is deemed below par for survival and growth in the 1st division people seem to have left their rose tinted specs on too long and see Keenan as a good player. Playing for a mid table 2nd division team is about right for him.

Is that your opinion?
mortonjag 2008-03-26 20:23:26
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 26 2008, 07:28 PM) [snapback]426162[/snapback]
winning the league not good enough to prove it anymore? didnt realise it was so hard to be considered a good 2nd division player. tongue.gif

unsure.gif

QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Mar 26 2008, 07:34 PM) [snapback]426170[/snapback]
Harding possibly, the rest are not good enough for this level hence the reason we're in the sh*t now. mad.gif

Nice to see somebody else recognises ability.

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 26 2008, 07:44 PM) [snapback]426179[/snapback]
Finlayson has been one of our better players THIS season. He has showed he can make the step up. Most, if not all, of the others have failed.

Blows hot and cold-THE most frustrating player at Cappieow-bar none-very useful 1st division utility player IMO. NEVER EVER a winger.

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 26 2008, 07:53 PM) [snapback]426188[/snapback]
He has been one of our most consistant players, gives 100% effort, makes goals, scores goals,track back and defends.

Who else is better in his position ?

General right sided dogsbody!
mortonjag 2008-03-26 20:26:46
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 26 2008, 08:21 PM) [snapback]426211[/snapback]
hens' teeth

apostrophe alert!




To digress Trumpet, I popped out there to M & S garage/store.

Apparently their produce staff have 'over 1000 years of experience between them'.

unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 20:31:29
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 26 2008, 08:27 PM) [snapback]426216[/snapback]
so what do you think sandra - policies or presentation?

Oh-if you insist Trumpet-I'd say the presentation has put the Jag just about where he wants to be at this stage in the campaign! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 20:32:35
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 26 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]426186[/snapback]
You can phone me. smile.gif

xx



QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 26 2008, 08:08 PM) [snapback]426197[/snapback]
thanks babe wub.gif x

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mortonjag 2008-03-26 20:37:41
QUOTE(axeman @ Mar 26 2008, 08:35 PM) [snapback]426223[/snapback]
What should happen is that if Gretna fail to win on Saturday, as is probably certain now, they are relegated. This should allow ample time for the Scottish League to remind them that they were warned a year ago that their ground wasn't up to 1st Division standard & as it has got worse they are not eligible to play in the 1st.

Regardless of their financial situation this would mean they would drop automatically into the 2nd. Brown McMaster, Partick's man at the Scottish League, has already made rumblings about them dropping 2 divisions, although he mentioned footballing debts not being settled as the reason so far.

They are well and truly f*cked-let them die now.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 06:28:51
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 26 2008, 10:57 PM) [snapback]426272[/snapback]
Nah. I'm really enjoying it. My room mate's from Bognor Regis and he's brand new. He went to the shops today and brought me back IRN BRU and Tennents to make me feel at home smile.gif

smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-27 06:33:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 26 2008, 10:15 PM) [snapback]426254[/snapback]
Should the new management team rename the players ???

Anything to avoid relegation.

laugh.gif laugh.gif
People called James or Elizabeth are perceived as likely to be the most successful, while Ryan and Sophie are seen as the most attractive, according to a new poll.

Jack and Lucy are seen as the luckiest, according to a poll based on asking more than 6,000 people for their perceptions of different names and the kind of people likely to have them.

At the other end of the scale, Lisa and Brian were seen as the least successful, Helen and John as the least lucky, and Ann and George as the most unattractive, according to the poll commissioned by a British academic.

“Past research has shown that such perceptions can become self-fulfilling prophecies, with teachers giving higher marks to children with attractive names and employers being more likely to promote those who sound successful," said the authors of the poll.

As well as mainstream names, psychologist Richard Wiseman of the University of Hertfordshire also found that unusual names people give their children could also have a big influence on how they are perceived.

"Attractive female names tended to be soft-sounding and end with the 'ee' sound, whereas the sexiest male names are short and much harder sounding," he said, adding that names with royal links are seen as successful or clever.

Here are key findings from the poll, based on asking nearly 6,700 people to rank 20 male and 20 female names in terms of successfulness, intelligence, and luck (girls name first, then boys):

1. SUCCESS

Top five:

Elizabeth — James
Caroline — Richard
Helen — Michael
Olivia — William
Amanda — Andrew

Bottom five:

Julie — Ian
Emily — Lewis
Katie — Stephen
Lucy — Ryan
Lisa — Brian

2. LUCK

Top five:

Lucy — Jack
Katie — Chris
Lisa — Ryan
Sophie — Peter
Emma — James

Bottom five:

Caroline — George
Karen — William
Ann — Richard
Elizabeth — Thomas
Helen — John

3. ATTRACTIVENESS

Top five:

Sophie — Ryan
Rachel — James
Olivia — Jack
Karen — Chris
Katie — Michael

Bottom five:

Caroline — Richard
Elizabeth — John
Helen — Peter
Jane — Thomas
Ann — George

Poor John Thomas-born unlucky and it just got harder.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 06:42:09

Bacillus cereus is an endemic, soil-dwelling, Gram-positive, rod-shaped, beta hemolytic bacteria that causes foodborne illness.[1] It is the cause of "Fried Rice Syndrome". B. cereus bacteria are facultative aerobes, and like other members of the genus Bacillus can produce protective endospores.


B. cereus is responsible for a minority of foodborne illnesses (2–5%). It is known to create heavy nausea, vomiting, and abdominal periods. [2] Generally speaking, Bacillus foodborne illnesses occur due to survival of the bacterial spores when food is improperly cooked.[3] This problem is compounded when food is then improperly refrigerated, allowing the spores to germinate.[4] Bacterial growth results in production of enterotoxin, and ingestion leads to two types of illness, diarrheal and emetic syndrome.[5]

* The diarrheal type is associated with a wide-range of foods, has an 8–16.5 hour incubation time and is associated with diarrhea and gastrointestinal pain. Also known as the long-incubation form of B. cereus food poisoning, it might be difficult to differentiate from poisoning caused by Clostridium perfringens.[6]
* In the emetic form, rice that is cooked then improperly refrigerated is common cause, leading to nausea and vomiting 1–5 hours after consumption. This form can be difficult to distinguish from other short-term bacterial foodborne pathogens (e.g. Staphylococcus aureus).[6]

It was previously thought that the timing of the toxin production might be responsible for the two different types, but in fact the emetic syndrome is caused by a toxin called cereulide that is found only in emetic strains and is not part of the 'standard toolbox' of B. cereus. Cereulide a dodecadepsipeptide produced by non-ribosomal peptide synthesis (NRPS), which is somewhat unusual in itself. It was shown independently by two research groups to be encoded on a plasmid, which is called pCERE01 [7] or pBCE4810.[8] Interestingly, this plasmid shares a common backbone with the virulence plasmid pXO1, which encodes the anthrax toxin genes in B. anthracis, but with a different pathogenicity island. Periodontal isolates of B. cereus also possess distinct pXO1-like plasmids. B. cereus is also known to cause skin infections that can be quite lengthy, difficult to eradicate, and damaging, though less aggressive than the more notorious Necrotizing fasciitis





The very old and the very young are generally more liable to succumb to serious (or cereus) infection, Newt.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 06:46:33
QUOTE(blindton @ Mar 26 2008, 11:36 PM) [snapback]426286[/snapback]
Did you get a better deal in the end Davie? Or was it as bad as expected?

I went with Margaret Nicol, really good. Passed first time last year.

Good luck with your lessons Ian wink.gif

Surprised the eyesight test's so lax those days!
mortonjag 2008-03-27 06:49:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 27 2008, 12:44 AM) [snapback]426351[/snapback]
http://www.firstfoot.u-net.com/its%20naugh...tyframemain.htm
This page has been specially constructed for those of you out there looking for something a bit risque.

So, if you fancy "a little bit of something you can't get at home" ........ look no further.

However, if you are under the age of 8, or believe passionately in Peter Pan, please leave now.

But, above all, have fun.

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Most Scots who passionately believe in Wendy have a mental age of 6.79 Newt.


'Bendy Wendy' the plastic princess of Never Never land!
mortonjag 2008-03-27 06:53:38
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 27 2008, 06:48 AM) [snapback]426365[/snapback]
Becuse an Independent Scotland will put a big shield over the country to stop evil imperialist television waves being beamed down from outer space.

... and will the big shield be made of Scottish steel ?

or will aluminium foil suffice ?

maybe Teacher Tom will know ?

It will be made of the First Minister's suit of clothes.


'Bawheid is in the altogether, the altogether, the altogether.....
mortonjag 2008-03-27 06:54:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 27 2008, 06:50 AM) [snapback]426367[/snapback]
I feel better now.

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Give it time!
mortonjag 2008-03-27 07:01:43
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 26 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]426231[/snapback]
the policies see morton in 9th place though unsure.gif

You're confusing me Trumpet-I'm easily confused-are you blaming Morton's miserable form on Mortonjag, or on my big bro Auld Shoogly?
mortonjag 2008-03-27 07:06:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 26 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]426236[/snapback]
do they have an army of staff ?

or is their average age greater than that of even mortonjag ?

Is mortonjag officially an OAP ?

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Mortonjag is simply a 'P'!

He is entitled to a bus P which he does not use, but has yet to receive a P from the state.


QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 26 2008, 09:15 PM) [snapback]426238[/snapback]
They WOOD if they could.

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and it's good night from me.

And it's goodnight from him!
mortonjag 2008-03-27 07:13:08
QUOTE(stuart @ Mar 26 2008, 11:43 PM) [snapback]426293[/snapback]
I think I drove through the new speed limit on the A77 at 60 on the way to the Clyde match. I thought the limit was still 70 so went through at 60 but they had changed it to 50 the day before. It was average speed cameras and am just waiting for the thing to come through the door. Although they are a little slow, in the meantime I have applied for a replacement license and got it ok. Wish they would hurry up and get it over with.

Thanks for the warning-I use the A77 a lot but haven't been down in the last few weeks. Did they give any prior warning?

They normally won't book unless you're >10% over the limit. I'd argue the case if you're 'done'.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 07:15:48
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 26 2008, 10:42 PM) [snapback]426258[/snapback]
mortonjag, I've seen you mention numerous times that neither McAlister or Finlayson are wingers... where would you play them?

Haven't a clue-that seems to be the problem managers have too.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 07:17:50
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 26 2008, 09:33 AM) [snapback]425790[/snapback]
I don't think the current Morton side can win must-win games so I don't think we'd do well in any of them.

Despite the new management team?
mortonjag 2008-03-27 07:24:01
QUOTE(Rossco @ Mar 27 2008, 12:12 AM) [snapback]426330[/snapback]
Think the key thing is that Keenan has been playing well in the 2nd division.

I'm sorry if this upsets the Keenan fans but think that is his level.

I don't rate McLaughlin either but if the only 2 people going for that position are him & Keenan then its Scott who gets my vote.

This kind of argument confuses me-I'm told Jenkins and McGuffie played quite well in the SPL.

Keenan and McLaughlin are chalk and cheese-Scott's a great guy to have when you've got 15 minutes left and are two up.

Deano's the man to add a bit of much needed fire when you're two down.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 07:27:39
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Mar 27 2008, 12:27 AM) [snapback]426340[/snapback]
I pray those who make the decisions aren't following this train of thought as this is the view that has got us in this position in the first place.

It was clear to most on here that major surgery was required last summer but Doogie insisted "these boys deserve a chance." Well, we're now reaping the "rewards" of giving them that chance.

This team better be gutted in the close season, irrespective of what league we're in.

If we go down Mr Rae will have to shoulder the brunt of it after the shambles of the summer. mad.gif dry.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-27 07:30:27
QUOTE(axeman @ Mar 26 2008, 08:42 PM) [snapback]426230[/snapback]
Personally I think they going to let them limp through to the split & then it doesn't affect Euro places or the top 6. Having done this the SPL will wash their hands of them & they'll go bust.

The SPL seem to be running the Administration-the Administrator is IMHO guilty of serious professional misconduct-possibly of worse.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 07:32:20
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 26 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]426263[/snapback]
Hey, he didnae phone me, you have my number mortonjag! smile.gif



QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 27 2008, 01:04 AM) [snapback]426353[/snapback]
im playing hard to get.

Ma two wee boys! wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-27 07:44:11
QUOTE(dazed @ Mar 27 2008, 07:13 AM) [snapback]426373[/snapback]
Im not trying to be backhanded, just my honest opinion, she hasnt got it right......yet, all Im saying is others have had a lot longer and still stuffed it up ...give the SNP government a chance, if they dont get it sorted then by all means attack them.

That seems reasonable except for one thing.

It's widely accepted that in any 'takeover'-whether it just be stepping into somebody else's job (e.g. new headmaster), or taking over a going concern, it's prudent to change very little for the first six months to one year. That allows time for careful consideration of what's needed, and for 'acceptance' of the new face.

The SNP in general, and Ms Sturgeon in particular seem to have done the opposite. For a rookie party in power, they appear to have gone on an ego polishing glory trip. I comment on the NHS because I understand the NHS.

If I sincerely believed for ONE MINUTE that Sturgeon gave a toss about genuine need I'd give her some credit.

She plainly doesn't, but then she's a politician, not a real person
mortonjag 2008-03-27 07:47:43

Independent MSP Margo MacDonald last night called for the law to be changed to allow her to end her life if her Parkinson's disease becomes unbearably painful.

In a moving contribution to a Holyrood debate on assisted suicide, she said she did not want to be a burden.

The Lothian MSP told the Scottish Parliament: "As you know I have a degenerative condition, and I would like to have the right to determine by how much my capacity to fulfil my social function, my familial functions, my personal functions is going to be truncated.

"And I would like to have the ability to take that decision. I don't want to burden any doctor. I don't want to burden any friend or family member.
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"I want to find a way in which I can take the decision to end my life in case I'm unlucky enough to have the worst form of Parkinson's near the end of life."

She said that palliative care, providing pain relief and a range of support for those with terminal conditions, was not always effective: "I am mindful of that, and I may be unlucky." Urging MSPs to change the law, she said: "There are many, many people who have a lot less time than I have."

Ms MacDonald said: "We're just accepting now that it its possible to make that decision when you are in sound mind and it can be taken in a measured capacity."

The outspoken politician first discovered she had Parkinson's disease 13 years ago.

In an interview last year, she said one side of her body was affected more than the other which caused her to walk "in a lumbering way".

Speaking last May when she had put her hat into the ring to be appointed as Holyrood's new Presiding Officer, she said she didn't see her condition as a stumbling block. "I wouldn't have made the offer if I didn't think I could do it and once I'm back into my routine of regular exercise, I'll be a lot better."

The debate yesterday was part of a campaign to change the law being led by Jeremy Purvis, LibDem MSP for Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale. In the first Holyrood debate on the issue since 2004, he called for a parliamentary committee inquiry into the case for a new law.

The strongest resistance came from Catholic MSPs. The SNP's Roseanna Cunningham warned of Dutch precedent that showed the intent to use the law in exceptional circumstances has become routine, saying the proposal was "profoundly mistaken and leads us down a very dangerous road".

mortonjag 2008-03-27 08:40:44
QUOTE(stuart @ Mar 27 2008, 07:53 AM) [snapback]426386[/snapback]
There are 50 mph signs just before you get to the three average speed cameras. Apparently it was discussed a lot on the radio and Ayrshire Post but I don't buy it or listen to it.

Just at Monkton roundabout.

Are they permanent or just for road works or something?

Incidentally-and I can't verify this-I've heard it said that if you enter and leave a speed camera controlled section in different lanes-you are not clocked.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 08:45:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 27 2008, 08:10 AM) [snapback]426388[/snapback]
surely his primary fiduciary duty is to the creditors ?

not to the SPL.

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If he is knowingly disadvantaging the creditors he is guilty of serious professional conduct. If he has been induced to do so, he is guilty of criminal behaviour.

It's a sad state of affairs-folk can see exactly what's going on, yet seem powerless to stop it.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 08:49:20
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Mar 27 2008, 08:28 AM) [snapback]426393[/snapback]
I fully agree, most switched-on Ton fan could see with that squad of players we were gonna struggle badly. The powers within our club for some reason chose to ignore this or actually thought we could compete! unsure.gif

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He thought we could compete and was 'up for it'!


mortonjag 2008-03-27 08:53:05
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 27 2008, 08:45 AM) [snapback]426396[/snapback]
Yes, despite the new management team. There are simply too many bottlers in the squad.

Hopefully the management team can identify them over the summer.

We didn't bottle the away cup tie against Gretna-we were very good for ninety minutes, and neutrals were pretty impressed.

An effective new management should surely be able to get the best from the squad, and the best seems 'no too bad'.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 08:56:23
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 27 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]426399[/snapback]
So you are now suggesting Keenan is the difference between winning and losing? I can't think of one single time that Keenan has influenced a game to turn it in our favour, quite the opposite infact.

That's quite simply because you don't want to see it!

Not all is always black or white.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 08:57:44
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Mar 27 2008, 08:56 AM) [snapback]426406[/snapback]
In an article on Gretna today, The Sun has re-iterated that Innes is likely to sign a three year deal with Morton.

Innes has NOT!
mortonjag 2008-03-27 09:13:52
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 27 2008, 08:20 AM) [snapback]426390[/snapback]
After my great-uncle went a bit daft just before he died my uncle made me promise I'd end it for him if he went the same way. I don't see a problem with euthanasia but I can understand a doctor's reluctance to perform it as it would go against their hippocratic oath would it not? (another one for MJ there)

I can also understand the church's view's against it but church, state, clear distinction.



The Hippocratic Oath is an oath traditionally taken by physicians pertaining to the ethical practice of medicine. It is widely believed that the oath was written by Hippocrates, the father of medicine, in the 4th century BC, or by one of his students. It is thus usually included in the Hippocratic Corpus. Classical scholar Ludwig Edelstein proposed that the oath was written by Pythagoreans, a theory that has been questioned due to the lack of evidence for a school of Pythagorean medicine. Although mostly of historical and traditional value, the oath is considered a rite of passage for practitioners of medicine, although it is not obligatory and no longer taken up by all physicians.


Even when I graduated in the early seventies, the 'Oath' was just read out to us, and we were asked to raise our hands if we accepted it.


Medical practice in this country is controlled by the General Medical Council, who have the powers to strike doctors off the list.


Even if a doctor had been found guilty of a 'criminal' act in an assisted suicide, the GMC would have powers to keep him ON the list, if it was convinced he'd acted with the consent of, and in the best interests of his patients.

We had a similar debate recently. My ex wife has suffered from MS for some twenty years now and is severely disabled. We are still on good terms, and I would have no hesitation in assisting her, if she felt she could no longer go on.

It's fine for Holy Willies to pontificate, and medicophobes to get their wee digs in. Ultimately dedicated doctors will ALWAYS act in their patients best interests-NO MATTER WHAT POLITICIANS DO.




mortonjag 2008-03-27 09:15:41
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 27 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]426391[/snapback]
Then he asked me who I really support and what school I went to laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-27 09:21:11
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 27 2008, 09:02 AM) [snapback]426412[/snapback]
Interesting point. Incidentally, I emailed the SPL a coup,e of weeks ago but they still haven't replied. Nor have the SFL.

Speak to your local MP Alibi-this matter is of huge concern to many people down there-many many 'little people' are suffering financial duress because of this bullying behaviour.

A communication from your MP will soon get them off their complacent arses.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 09:30:15
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 27 2008, 08:59 AM) [snapback]426409[/snapback]
Wilson Field, the administrators, are from Sheffield, and I read on another forum that they have been involved with other Mileson companies. It is the company that appoints its own administrators. Is there anything dodgy in the fact that the administrators seem to have a cosy wee relationship with Mileson?

(2) The administrator will vacate office if-

(a) he ceases to be qualified to act as an insolvency practitioner in relation to the company, or



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mortonjag 2008-03-27 09:58:57
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 27 2008, 08:59 AM) [snapback]426409[/snapback]
Wilson Field, the administrators, are from Sheffield, and I read on another forum that they have been involved with other Mileson companies. It is the company that appoints its own administrators. Is there anything dodgy in the fact that the administrators seem to have a cosy wee relationship with Mileson?

290.4 Audit work previously undertaken for a company or individual to which an
appointment is being considered
Where the Insolvency Practitioner or a practice has previously carried out audit
work within the previous 3 years for a company or individual to which the
appointment is being considered, the Insolvency Practitioner should not accept an
appointment.


From the Institute of Chartered Accountants (England and Wales).
mortonjag 2008-03-27 10:09:16
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 27 2008, 09:46 AM) [snapback]426428[/snapback]
As far as I am aware non one on here is in a position to say whether the administrator is acting to the detriment of creditors with the possible exception of Alibi but he is, being brutal, just another creditor and probably not privy to much more info than anyone else.

If the SPL money would have been due at the end of the season anyway (TV money etc) whether the club ceased playing or not, then there might be an argument that the administrator is prejudicing creditors rights by using money to keep going. Its more likely that there would have been no money if they fold due to breach of contract.

The administrator can't keep everyone happy and he walks a tightrope. Fortunately for him, the law recognises that and is pretty understanding towards them. A creditor goign against him would have an uphill struggle.

As an experienced funambulist, what is your GUT FEELING?

The integrity of your profession surely depends on fairness being SEEN to be applied, yet you talk as though the thing is effectively a 'closed shop'.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 10:19:18
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 27 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]426436[/snapback]
but "to be honest" all the other teams had "a couple of good players"

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mortonjag 2008-03-27 10:46:30 Anyway-happy birthday young man, and many happy returns of the day from a demented old fud! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-27 10:58:54
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Mar 27 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]426443[/snapback]
I'm not saying Finlayson is any worse than the rest of them, and I'm not even saying he shouldn't be in the current starting line-up. What i am saying is that we need a far higher quality of player to properly compete at this level. And that doesn't just go for Finlayson.

Furthermore we're top heavy with midfielders and if we're going to make room for others we'll have to shed some of them. Has Stuart Greacen not indicated already that he's 'off' anyway?
mortonjag 2008-03-27 11:03:42
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 27 2008, 10:44 AM) [snapback]426441[/snapback]
Seriously though, that's not the point. Sky is a commercial organisation that can broadcast wherever it's satellite footprint goes. Folk pick it up in Poland.

The only way to stop Sky broadcasting its insipid pish is to block the satellite pictures coming into Scotland. No government in the current environment of de-regulation is going to allow that to happen.

The key thing is that WDE has a choice which he is exercising, and paying for it as well. Does he listen to considered news and comment on either Radio Scotland or Radio 4, or does he watch sky news? Or are you suggesting that Independence will put an end to that freedom of choice. If its that much of a problem for him he can cancel the subscription.

Independence may cure many ills but it won't stop people paying shedloads of cash to keep an Australian pensioner in incontinence pants.

.....although all Scottish pensioners will have an unlimited supply on demand.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 11:07:46
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 27 2008, 11:04 AM) [snapback]426446[/snapback]
Is Craig Charleston, guy who did the injury time defeat at Cappielow against Clyde.





Craig Charleston

Date of Birth: 8 May 1970

Height: 5' 10"

Weight: 12 stone

Profession: Traffic Operator

First ever match: 4th Division of the South London Sunday League at Hackney Marshes between a team fro a Turkish restaurant and a team of Nigerians. Hardly anyone could speak English, including me !!!!

First international match: n/a

What does being a football referee mean to you? It does take over your life at times, matches, training, meetings etc but you make a lot of friends and keeps you fit.

Why did you become a referee? I was in the police in London at the time and couldn't commit to a team because of shift work but still wanted an involvement in football so took a referees course, never dreaming I would get to this level.

Would you have wished to become a full-time referee? Yes, in heartbeat.

Any pet hates in football? John Motson, Jimmy Hill, 1966 and all that!!!

What Law of the Game would you change? The player leaving the field of play after an injury, it can sometimes leave the Referee looking a bit pedantic.

The most difficult Law to apply? You can play a great advantage then the player makes a hash of it leaving you looking stupid.

Your best memory in football? Being at France 1998, fantastic. In refereeing it would be officiating at grounds I went to as a spectator i.e. Hampden et, and refereeing an old firm reserve game.

Other sports or hobbies? Football, Football - and Football !!!!

Your main strength? Being able to communicate well with players.

And main weaknesses? Being too laid back at times.

What's in your car CD player? Take That and Bros !!!

Beer or wine? Lager

Favourite film? All the American Pie movies

Tastiest food? Chinese

Favourite holiday destination? Tenerife (with my mates in the early 90's - (oh the memories)

Luck or judgement? Lucky Judgement

Dress up or dress down? Y cardigans and grey stay press trousers, bring back the 80's

Whom would you most like to meet? Abi Titmuss drunk on a Saturday night !

Ambitions? To do as well as I can to justify the faith shown in me by getting to this level

Any advice for young referees? Enjoy it, be strong and if you're good enough you'll get there.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 11:35:59
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 27 2008, 11:17 AM) [snapback]426449[/snapback]
Purely from a technical point of view I don't think that's feasible as it's impossible to limit a satellite's footprint to within national borders.

Legally you can only receive Sky broadcasts from the AstraII satellite from within in the UK and Ireland as that is the limit of their broadcasting license. Their way of enforcing this is to only send decoder cards to UK and Irish adresses.

However if you have a decorder and card can you can receive Sky in most of western Europe without a problem as the AstraII footprint is much larger than the UK and Ireland. Some channels like the BBC ones have a weaker signal to try to minimise the footprint but it's still very easy to pick up. Worst case is that you might lose the weaker channels in a heavy thunderstorm, for example. Apparently there are some ex-pats living in Europe who register with friends and relatives in the UK and have their decoder cards mailed to them in the post. ohmy.gif

That is rather naughty.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 11:42:52
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Mar 27 2008, 11:24 AM) [snapback]426451[/snapback]
The administrator is not acting in a criminal way at all - however it can certainly be argued that he is not acting in the benefit of the creditors. I have advised Alibi before that he should consider reporting the administator to his Institute. Also Gretna are paying the administator nothing, however the longer things go on the bigger the fee he can take. That is essentially what this is all about imo - he is trying to get as big a fee as possible out of the clubs assets.

Edited to add - just noticed Tonsilitis' post above - he is obviously correct in what he says, it is very hard for him to please everyone. It would undoubtably be very difficult to go against the administrator, but if Alibi feels like he is being prejudiced in anyway then he should consult with the administrators Institute to try to ascertain if he is acting improperly.

Can you say that with complete confidence? Are you party to the goings on between the SPL and Administrator?

It's maybe a wee bit naive to believe that the SPL would be 'above' an inducement to the Administrator.

Things like that DO happen in real life.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 11:45:38
QUOTE(BishopTon @ Mar 27 2008, 11:41 AM) [snapback]426456[/snapback]
This is true MortonJag, if you change lanes then your speed will not be obeserved over a set measured disatnce and as such it wont register, always too scared to try it though !

However they are in the process of upgrading the system at the moment so that this will not work anymore.

DRAT!!!


BTW will your wee avatar ever get there? I love his resolve.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 11:50:46
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 27 2008, 11:49 AM) [snapback]426461[/snapback]
I agree. Fortunately I have cable.

Have you tied up a deal?
mortonjag 2008-03-27 12:19:51
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Mar 27 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]426453[/snapback]
At the end of the day I would prefer this decision to be taken by those most affected ie the person with the illness. I cannot think of anything more hypocritcal than a member of parliament condemning others to suffer the indignity and pain that a long term degenerative illness involves in order to salve their personal religious views. The church does not own my body and should have absolutely no right to determine what I choose to do with it.


Roseanna Cunningham is a lawyer by profession, and Deputy Convener of the Cross-Party Group in the Scottish Parliament on Palliative Care.

In opposing Margot's motion I'd suggest she is clearly unfit to serve on such a committee.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 12:56:03
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 27 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]426481[/snapback]
Another day, another attack on the SNP.

EH-Margot WAS bloody SNP in the good old days.

Her heartfelt motion is being opposed by a woman on account of her religious persuasion-nothing more and nothing less.

When indoctrination prevails over compassion Spurtle, the indoctrinee has no place on a committee dealing with the terminally ill-irrespective of political leaning.

As I've said before-all politics is scum.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 13:05:19 It's a sudden shock apparently-difficult to cope with, but hopefully Mr Irons senior had no suffering.

People who really want to show support to Davie have the opportunity to do so on Saturday-and I say 'Well done' to him for his application to the task in hand.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 13:20:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 27 2008, 01:13 PM) [snapback]426492[/snapback]
He is now an American pensioner.

Purely for the money.

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An incontinent American pensioner, apparently.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 13:31:23
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Mar 27 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]426502[/snapback]
They've retained a playing staff of 16!

It is indeed a farce, and a shameful farce at that.


f*** THE SPL.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 16:10:18
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 27 2008, 03:00 PM) [snapback]426524[/snapback]
Can I take it then that we have NOT signed Innes? Can I take it also that in line with virtually every transfer story over the last 2 years, we will not be signing him? No jokes or wind ups please, what is the actual situation? Does anyone actually know?

That's my take. If Rae signs anybody right now on a three year contract and 1k a week, and Crawford can't afford to fix the rusty turnstyles, there's something far wrong.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 16:14:23
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 27 2008, 01:36 PM) [snapback]426504[/snapback]
I understood that he is trans-continent or inter-continent.

One could make a tastless pun about Mrs Murdoch.

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Don't know how she can bear Rupert?
mortonjag 2008-03-27 17:23:59
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Mar 27 2008, 04:35 PM) [snapback]426551[/snapback]
This is the latest take on the Innes situation. Basically, it's out of the Club's hands at the moment. sad.gif

http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/articles/2/21739

1k per week over three years indeed! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-27 17:24:49
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 27 2008, 04:29 PM) [snapback]426544[/snapback]
Or you know...priorities in certain places like staying in the division wink.gif

A three year contract for four weeks work-aye right! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-27 17:27:49
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 27 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]426550[/snapback]
By f*** your a funny guy eh ?

I don't pay 10 times less in my licience fee than those in England, yet I get an inferior service.

So you answer is rather being able to watch programes of relevance to me on TV, I have to listen to the radio ? Aye, brill !

Ya fukin weapon !!!

Aye and folk in Skelmorlie pay the same for the Tilly as Greenockians-don't see much about that wee toon in the paper.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 17:39:05
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 27 2008, 05:08 PM) [snapback]426558[/snapback]
There's no pressure in the cup.

Really?

Well maybe there SHOULD BE, given that Thistle are going to wipe out their £300,000 debt on the strength of their run, while we just don't seem able to spend anything those days.


I fail to see the point you're trying to make-I merely suggested that if the new management team can instil the frame of mind present against Gretna at Palmerston, we'd do much better.

Surely that is what they were expected to do.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 17:43:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 27 2008, 05:39 PM) [snapback]426571[/snapback]
Let me give you a clue - Heather Mills.

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Is about to marry Rupert the Bear because she's just discovered true love, and big honeypots.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 17:54:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 27 2008, 05:47 PM) [snapback]426576[/snapback]
Heather would not even get through a Dirty Digger pre-nup.

After 5 or 6 pages, she'd be legless.

AGAIN-she'd end up just having to bum around I guess.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 17:56:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 27 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]426581[/snapback]
Gidday Edinton,

It wissnae deuce, it was sauce.

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What's sauce for the deuce.....
mortonjag 2008-03-27 17:59:04
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 27 2008, 05:30 PM) [snapback]426564[/snapback]
if he helped keep us up then he'd need to do it again next year.

And if he didn't he'd be the wealthiest player in Division 2-bar none!
mortonjag 2008-03-27 18:07:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 27 2008, 06:03 PM) [snapback]426589[/snapback]
5 am - time for me bike.

bye

Beware of saucy snappers!
mortonjag 2008-03-27 18:10:43
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 27 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]426591[/snapback]
if we're relegated i'd hope we had the wealthiest players in the 2nd division. He'd also be the best defender in the 2nd division bar none!

Our wealthy second division players took a long time to become not so wealthy first division players.


Perhaps the money could have been spent more prudently!
mortonjag 2008-03-27 18:14:04
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Mar 27 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]426483[/snapback]
I also recieved a lovely text from my brother this morning reminding me that most of the current Morton Squad are younger than me .. Thanks a million hahahaha

Indeed-they are but babies in Bukta.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 18:18:31
QUOTE(axeman @ Mar 27 2008, 06:15 PM) [snapback]426598[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Mar 27 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]426433[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->HE'S DEED !!!
PANIC ohmy.gif
Naw, I think he's still knocking about in Portugal at the age of 88. smile.gif



Clive Robert Dunn OBE (born 9 January 1920) is a retired English actor, singer and entertainer best known for his role as Lance-Corporal Jack Jones in the BBC sitcom Dad's Army, and Sam Cobbett in the Yorkshire Television sitcom My Old Man.

Born in London, a cousin of actress Gretchen Franklin, Dunn played small film roles from the 1930s onwards. After a break for service in the army in World War II, in the course of which he spent four years in prisoner-of-war camps and labour camps in Austria, he worked for many years in music halls and theatres. In 1956 and 1957, Dunn appeared in The Tony Hanc*** Show. In the 1960s he made many appearances with Tony Hanc***, Michael Bentine, Dora Bryan and Dick Emery, among others, before winning the role of Jones in Dad's Army in 1968.

From an early time his trademark character was that of a doddering old man. This first made an impression in the show Bootsie and Snudge, a spinoff from The Army Game. Dunn played the old dogsbody at a slightly seedy gentlemen's club where the characters Pvt. "Bootsie" Bisley (Alfie Bass) and Sgt. Claude Snudge (Bill Fraser) found work after leaving the Army.

In 1967 he made a guest appearance in an episode of The Avengers, playing the proprietor of a toy shop in "Something Nasty in the Nursery".

Dunn was actually one of the younger members of the cast, at 48, when he took on the role of the elderly butcher whose military service in earlier wars made him the most experienced member of the Walmington-on-Sea Home Guard, as well as being one of the most decrepit.

Dunn's strong Socialist beliefs often caused him to fall out with Arthur Lowe, who was a committed Conservative and played Captain George Mainwaring. In fact, when the series ended and Dunn finally accepted an OBE, after many offers, it was reported that Lowe would only accept a higher-rated honour from the Queen.[3] It is reported that Tom Stoppard is currently writing a play about this clash of ideas and politics in the early 1970s.[citation needed]

After Dad's Army ended, Dunn capitalised on the role by playing the title character in the children's TV series Grandad, from 1979 to 1984. He had previously had a number one hit single with the song "Grandad" in 1971, accompanied by a children's choir. He performed the song four times on Top of the Pops. The B-side of "Grandad", "I Play The Spoons", also received considerable airplay. After the cancellation of Grandad in 1984, he effectively disappeared from the screen, retiring to Portugal.[
mortonjag 2008-03-27 18:47:30
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 27 2008, 06:23 PM) [snapback]426605[/snapback]
in the last two years our wealthy second division players finished above everyone else with lesser budgets than us.

Money talks. I'd rather we spent more on wages than any other team in the 2nd division.

A fool and his money are easily parted!
mortonjag 2008-03-27 18:54:27 Doesn't seem to be much enthusiasm for the Ton those days, yet less than a year ago we were flying high.

Nobody seems to even want to talk about our forthcoming match at Palmerston, yet the vague possibility of a decent signing produces threads that run to pages.


I believe we've been sold down the river.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 18:58:36
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 27 2008, 06:52 PM) [snapback]426620[/snapback]
i told you that you should never have bought that dodgy viagra online from that junk email you were sent, but did you listen??? noooooooo.

I have free access to viagra, should it ever become necessary young man. If I can stand for 90 minutes at places like Station and Stairs parks in the freezing cold, I reckon I'm doing OK!
mortonjag 2008-03-27 19:02:01
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Mar 27 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]426626[/snapback]
Have I missed something? blink.gif

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I just found the term 'the brunt' to be a slight understatement!
mortonjag 2008-03-27 19:05:48
QUOTE(cmdc @ Mar 27 2008, 07:00 PM) [snapback]426628[/snapback]
Don't know what you mena by 'sold down the river', but in my case its just a case of waiting for a disappointing season to finally end, looking forward to the summer, and hoping the new management team can kick on from there.

The Innes rumour doesn't seem to have come from the club, who have been playing it down...more likely an agent wary that he has to give bigger clubs notice that time is running out to sign him!

I agree about the Innes rumour-in fact I agree very strongly-money is not being spent-we have spent no REAL money since we won promotion.

We were promised that the existing squad would 'take us forward' and it has not.

I call that having been 'sold down the river'.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 19:09:07
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 27 2008, 07:02 PM) [snapback]426631[/snapback]
i feel espescially bad for you MJ. even when everyone else was extremely happy last year you were still on here moaning about absolutely everything. must have been a while since you've been happy. sad.gif

come here and give me a hug.

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Well that's not entirely true though I was consistent in my criticism of JM and Shoogly-oh and Mileson.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 19:10:59
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 27 2008, 07:05 PM) [snapback]426633[/snapback]
Of course you do.

I believe the fans have expected far too much personally. Most seemed to have expected us to come in and hold our own when really were were going to be underdogs about 8/9 games we played.

You apparently don't.

Congratulations Puggs-you are very easily satisfied!
mortonjag 2008-03-27 19:12:28
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 27 2008, 07:06 PM) [snapback]426636[/snapback]
Enthusiasm ?? blink.gif Err..I think you'll find we are a midge's widgie of heading for the playoff's ! Why be enthusiastic about that ? dry.gif

EXACTLY!

Shoogly has done his best though.

I am quite convinced that it true.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 19:13:54
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 27 2008, 07:12 PM) [snapback]426642[/snapback]
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the most interesting part about that post was that you edited it. i want to know what mistake you made! SPILL.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 19:22:42
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Mar 27 2008, 07:16 PM) [snapback]426645[/snapback]
I agree on ditching Stevenson, McAnespie and Wake, but I was talking about the players whose contracts are running out.

Greacen and Harding, while not brilliant, have shown a clear improvement since Irons took over; it's incredible what a manager with a brain can get out of a player. If we find ourselves in the 2nd Division, it's not likely we'll be able to find anyone better, so keep them.

McGurn isn't a bad goalkeeper, but has had a crisis of confidence this season - understandable given the amount of times he's been fucked about by the club. He was one of the better keepers in the 2nd Division, and is capable of doing a job for us in the First. Not great, but we should hang onto him.

Finlayson has adapted to the First Division excellently, and we should definitely keep him. Proved he can do a job, and I'm surprised he's not been given a new contract already.

I agree on punting McLaughlin - average 2nd Division player.

I'd keep Keenan, he did well when he was in the team the season, and he's a superior player to McLaughlin. If we play 5 in midfield next season, I wouldn't be surprised to see Keenan getting a game.

They play entirely different games. McLaughlin escapes criticism AND praise because he can go through a match so anonymously while still putting in a fair shift. Folk are always going to be turned off by Deano's 'gung ho' style with its inevitable blunders, but in so doing they turn a blind eye to the fact that he can be very direct and effective-something you could never say of Scott.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 19:25:42
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 27 2008, 07:19 PM) [snapback]426647[/snapback]
Reminds me of a story a Celtic supporting mate of mine told me a few years back, well maybe 20.

Celtic were playing Rangers in the cup final and the Celtic fans were singing ''I'd rather wear a turban than a sash''

And there was a big muslim Glasgow Bus driver with his green bus drivers jaiket and badge and green turban belting out the words and giving it laldy enjoying being the centre of attention.



Is that a Sikh joke?
mortonjag 2008-03-27 20:51:25
QUOTE(leyTON @ Mar 27 2008, 08:40 PM) [snapback]426672[/snapback]
im with you davie
i dont like that people are saying it isnt a big deal the monarchy - for me it is and condmening the whole nationalist sector of scotland to a half baked notion of theier, beliefs, based on the opinions of one man salmond, who likes the queen
dont try and dodge it alibi etc, your man can make mistakes sometimes



Do you really believe he 'likes' the monarchy. That's surely a conundrum-or maybe not. I'm sure he'd LOVE to be crowned King Bawheid the first at Scone.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 21:16:13
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 27 2008, 09:11 PM) [snapback]426684[/snapback]
I think we were due a bit of humble pie from Dougie last week . He was as bullish this year as he was at Kirkaldy months before .

We saw the limitations of McInally and the false interpretations of a squad who struggled to win promotion from a part time league .

I don't think the new management team have enough time and they must have been surprised at the task in hand with an inbalanced squad who haven't been allowed to learn their trade with enough experience around them .

More chance of hell freezing over Chris!
mortonjag 2008-03-27 21:49:18
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 27 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]426690[/snapback]
The monarchy and independence are two separate issues entirely.

What we have to achieve is first and end to the union of parliaments. In other words independence.
Then we can work on an end of the union of crowns.

Trying to end the two in the one go is a step too far.There are nationalist monarchists, and quite simply,we need their votes in a referendum.

Bawheid needs the Queen!
mortonjag 2008-03-27 22:04:38
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 27 2008, 09:33 PM) [snapback]426700[/snapback]
Please do not allow a little learning fron the web to make you an authority.

Firstly there is a regulation preventing any insolveny practitioner taking an appointment from someone he has had a non insolvency relationship with said company or group in the last three years. That applies to anyone with an insolvency ticket including either the 'F' ers i.e the FCA's from England or proper Chartered Accountants from Scotland (CA's). I think that Wilson Field have been involved in insolvency matters with other Mileson companies and nothing else. They are not therefore prevented from taking the Gretna appointment.

Ceasing as an IP means losing your ticket normally and that is not going to apply anytime soon to Wilson Field.

Facts are that the administrator is trying to save Gretna. If he uses a bit of creditors money to do that, he will get away with it. Sorry but them's the rules!

I'm not conscious of having suggested I'm 'an authority'! rolleyes.gif Have I been a naughty boy in attempting to enter the closed shop?

Fact is Tonsilitis that it's entirely natural to defend your own profession. That does NOT mean that the defence is always justified.

As a humble lay observer I am puzzled by the purported motives. It's easy for the Administrator to claim he's 'trying to save Gretna' when it suits the SPL to dish out enough cash to satisfy THEIR needs. I don't for one minute believe he realistically sees salvation as an option-do you?

mortonjag 2008-03-27 22:12:49
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 27 2008, 10:02 PM) [snapback]426715[/snapback]
In a nutshell. 2 managers now don't seem to rate him in the position, I certainly don't, and he can't get in the side currently in any position. He's a prime candidate for the chop in the summer - how he got a new contract after only playing in about 7 games last season I'll never know.

Walker has just been another victim of JM's millions of midfielders policy. You've got a short memory. Before his injury he had played his way back into the team and was doing fine thanks. Potentially better than Keenan, McLaughlin, and McGregor in a midfield role.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 22:18:23
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Mar 27 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]426721[/snapback]
This could actually be our saving grace. Being involved in 6 pointers in the closing fixtures could be the kiss of death.
Clyde are a better side than us. They've been established in the 1st Div for years whilst we've been pissing about he lower leagues so to suggest we're a better team than them is arrogant and false. Up until our recent aquisitions in the transfer market we had virtually an entire squad untried above 2nd Div level yet some halfwits on here tipped us for a top 4 finish. We were always going to finish bottom two and the recent transfer activity has most probably came too late to save us from relegation via the play-offs.

Well done Mr Rae, your boys got their chance. dry.gif
Biggest problem imo is some of the more vocal supporters have moved to the old away end, dividing the support. If we all bunched together in the home end things would improve drastically.

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We haven't-YET!!!!! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-27 22:26:48
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 27 2008, 10:17 PM) [snapback]426724[/snapback]

Douglas McShoogle?
mortonjag 2008-03-27 22:33:13
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 27 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]426736[/snapback]
should ban you for that awful joke laugh.gif tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-27 22:44:16
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 27 2008, 10:36 PM) [snapback]426740[/snapback]
Ladies and Gentlemen of this message board.

The definition of irony!

Now lets not talk about the NHS or Doctors! ph34r.gif

What are you yabbering about child?

When have I EVER blindly defended any individual doctor on his management of a case?

Grow up!

mortonjag 2008-03-27 22:51:30
QUOTE(Magic Mathie @ Mar 27 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]426735[/snapback]
I love Morton but never so much that I have a tent in my trousers...does that 'come' with wisdom and age?

It's hard on us aged souls, having to stand for 90 minutes, but we always believe the Ton will come good in the end.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 22:53:36
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 27 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]426745[/snapback]
I'm the same.

There's more to following the Ton than seeing good football.


Have I just said something obvious?
mortonjag 2008-03-27 22:55:53
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 27 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]426743[/snapback]
He got a new contract because McInally couldn't find a defender, so he turned Alex Walker into one. dry.gif

....thereby hindering his development as a midfielder. I've often wondered how many careers have been set back three years by JM's incompetence.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 22:58:01
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Mar 27 2008, 10:46 PM) [snapback]426742[/snapback]
Thanks Again Everyone , Been trying to avoid this Birthday as Pugs says Im an old Fogey now lol .. 27 may not be old but Im only 3years away from 30 and thats scary !!
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Only as old as the women you feel Scotty boy! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-27 23:13:38
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 27 2008, 11:01 PM) [snapback]426757[/snapback]
You honestly think an administrator in such a high profile case as this would carry out his work in an in-proper way and risk their job?

The guy will be doing everything by the book. Regardless of what it looks like to you!

Think you need to grow up.

You DARE to use the term irony, and come out with that!


There are crooks in every profession young man-including my own, and they inevitably think they will never get caught.


As Tonsilitis says, the Adminstrator has been appointed to attempt to keep Gretna afloat. That is his ultimate 'get out'.

It is not only myself who is asking serious questions about the handling of the matter, and I'll repeat the question I put earlier.

Do you think the Administrator seriously believes he's going to keep them afloat?
mortonjag 2008-03-28 06:30:19 AND NOTHING BUT A PACK OF LIES??


Former Scottish Socialist Party MSP Tommy Sheridan and his wife Gail appeared in court yesterday charged with perjury.

The couple, both aged 44, were greeted by a throng of supporters as they arrived at Edinburgh Sheriff Court, where they appeared separately and in private.

Neither made any plea or declaration and they were released on bail.

The Crown now must bring a prosecution within a year. Sources close to the case said this is unlikely to happen before the end of this year.


In line with what The Herald revealed last Saturday, charges against Mrs Sheridan of allegedly stealing a quantity of alcohol miniatures from her employer, British Airways, did not feature during her court appearance yesterday.

Mr Sheridan, a former MSP for Glasgow and leader of the SSP, was arrested in December after an investigation into allegations of lying under oath during his successful £200,000 defamation action against the News of the World.

His wife was charged with perjury by police last month.

The Sheridans arrived at court at about 11.45am yesterday. Supporters gave a huge cheer and applauded as they came out of the court building.

About 30 members of Mr Sheridan's Solidarity party staged a protest outside the court, holding aloft banners declaring: "Tommy and Gail Your Friends Are With You."


In a statement outside the court, the couple's lawyer, Aamar Anwar, said: "Both Mr and Mrs Sheridan appeared on petition in private at Edinburgh Sheriff Court. They were charged with perjury and made no plea or declaration.

"I would like to emphasise that there was no charge of theft on the petition.

"The Sheridans would like to thank all of those who have sent hundreds of cards. They are humbled and honoured to receive such generosity."

Mr Sheridan, who left the Scottish Socialist Party to form Solidarity, won his defamation case against the Rupert Murdoch-owned Sunday tabloid in August 2006.

The paper had branded him an adulterer and claimed he visited Cupids swingers' club in Manchester and had taken part in group sex sessions. Mr Sheridan denied the claims.

The trial judge, Lord Turnbull, voiced his concerns about the contradictory nature of the evidence given during the trial and, a month later, the Crown Office ordered Lothian and Borders Police to launch a perjury investigation.

As well as Mr and Mrs Sheridan, five others have been charged with perjury, including Mrs Sheridan's father, Gus Healey, 71, and former Solidarity MSP Rosemary Byrne.

Mrs Sheridan remains suspended from her BA cabin crew job pending an internal inquiry by the airline which is at an early stage



Establishment victimises cult hero?

Chancer gets come uppance?


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mortonjag 2008-03-28 06:36:34
QUOTE(Kaney @ Mar 28 2008, 12:45 AM) [snapback]426795[/snapback]
Whats the capacity of their new studium going to be? Do ye know?

200 megalitres of raw sewage, with a 50 megalitre overspill capacity.


Which, BTW is a load of sh*t.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 06:37:32
QUOTE(carlito @ Mar 28 2008, 12:56 AM) [snapback]426799[/snapback]
It may be modern, but it looks sh*te. I hate all these Lego stadia, they all look the same. It's going to suck having to go to there instead of Love Street. It won't be the same. sad.gif

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Te amo!
mortonjag 2008-03-28 06:38:57
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 28 2008, 01:04 AM) [snapback]426801[/snapback]
Me and you dancing wee bools?

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mortonjag 2008-03-28 06:46:57
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 28 2008, 12:36 AM) [snapback]426793[/snapback]
Usually when I post my prediction on page numbers its my way of syaing "I'm not getting involved in this one".
...this will be no different laugh.gif

Mugsy Puggsy met a pieman, going to the Fair.
Said Mugsy Puggsy to the pieman-what have you got there?
Said the pieman to Mugsy Puggsy, show me first your penny
Said Puggsy, Sir, like thoughts and wit, I fear I have not any.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 06:49:29
QUOTE(Magic Mathie @ Mar 28 2008, 03:53 AM) [snapback]426817[/snapback]
I'd say yeah but you'd be better ask yor GP to be on the safe side.

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mortonjag 2008-03-28 06:58:33
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 27 2008, 11:58 PM) [snapback]426784[/snapback]
If you are not an authority, you should not quote little bits of legislation without knowing how it fits in the big picture. I'm not defending my own profession per se, only the man currently charged with sorting out Gretna. He's got a difficult job and has to balance the interests of any number of stakeholders including:

Secured creditors
Employees and their Wages
Other creditors such as Alibi
The public interest including the SPL and others
The DTI
The tax authorities
the shareholders
etc., etc.

Its a no win job. The SPL are paying money when no one else is. Its probably money which would not be there if they fold and it offers the chance of salvaging the club. That's what administration is supposed to do. Its what it did for us and the administrator will not be considering much the interest's of whoever finishes in the bottom two of the first division which appears to be your primary motivation for the stance you are taking! I have every sympathy for Alibi and the other creditors but the administrator only comes to clear up mess after it has been made!

...and that's exactly the trap you have fallen into.

In assuming he is acting ethically (as I'm sure the vast majority of your profession does), you take discussion out of the equation.


I have perfectly legitimately suggested that he may not be so doing.


Oh and the 'no win job'.


Aye right, my heart bleeds for the wee soul!

The 'Insolvency Stakes' is invariably won by a walkover. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-28 07:06:41
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 28 2008, 12:54 AM) [snapback]426798[/snapback]
Okay then, I submit. I give in, my post should have read:
Och Aye, gimme Morton any time.

I dont care how dire and tediously boring it seems as long as theres 10 blue and white hooped shirts hoofing a ba' about a half empty stadium in the arse end of nowhere.

I'm a real 'Ton supporter, so i um, by ra way. Shove yer entertaining and skillful fitba' up yer arse.

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You'd have to remove your head first



CAPUT UP ANUS. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-28 07:08:59
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Mar 28 2008, 02:58 AM) [snapback]426816[/snapback]
Possibly, but you can't blame Rae entirely.

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mortonjag 2008-03-28 07:11:18
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 28 2008, 06:54 AM) [snapback]426825[/snapback]
Agree completely. Giving Beijing the olympics was meant to be carrot and stick and has failed totally. As Tom McB says they tried it before with Berlin in 1936. "Here, have the olympics and maybe you'll start behaving yourself". Didn't work that time and I'm not sure why these organisations can't learn from their mistakes.

To answer El Gofer's point - If you've ever been to China you'll see that all of these companies don't need the Olympics to sell their products. They are doing very well as it is.

Only good bit of news this week is that the Chinese have stopped blocking the BBC news website.

The fresh face of propaganda! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-28 08:49:00
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Mar 28 2008, 08:44 AM) [snapback]426832[/snapback]
Quite possibly both.

Quite definitely possibly both! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-28 09:02:13
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Mar 28 2008, 08:45 AM) [snapback]426833[/snapback]
I actually thought long & hard about adding Walker to my list.
The sole reason I put him in there, was due to the fact that when we were playing so badly he still wasn't gettin his game. I realise he has had some injury problems but he simply hasn't done enough (imho) to warrant a stay of execution. Bear in mind, I'm saying who I would dump if we were to improve and ultimately be challenging. smile.gif

The reason Stevenson was added is purely down to his attitude and lack of fight. We need players who will dig in when the going gets tough and he just doesn't do it. His head drops far too easily & he will ultimately drift out of the game. He's angered me when given a run out lately, as he should be grasping the opportunity with both hands, yet doesn't seem to show enough desire. Just my opinion, cue LargsTon gettin a hard on at me for slagging "Wonder Boy" tongue.gif

p.s Deego, this Finlayson bashing is becoming Tedious. wink.gif Just admit u fancy the guy & the only way u can deal with these intense feelings is to ridicule him on the Internet. Love/hate - Thin line!! wub.gif tongue.gif

It's nice when folk give their reasons for opinions. wink.gif

Calling players 'crap', sh*te', 'never a footballer' etc., says more about the poster than the player.


I've had huge patience with Jamie, and don't doubt his skill. Recently he's shown a wee bit more sparkle. Too early to bin him I'd say.

Alex Walker got a really rough deal from JM.

Repeatedly when more favoured midfielders went off form-(Millar, McLaughlin, Stevenson, and of course Gowsa, the so called 'striker'), they were still trotted out week after week by the man with no vision.

When Alex did get a chance he'd be tried here, there, and everywhere, and despite good performances in the main, would be dropped again when others became available.

He's also been very unlucky with injury this season.

Alex is a more accomplished footballer than Deano, Kev, and Scott. I still think he can make something of his career- if not here, elsewhere.


Oh-and edit to add-if young Deegan's been cheatin' on me with that Deano, he's for the high jump.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 09:10:17
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 28 2008, 08:51 AM) [snapback]426837[/snapback]
What am I making up? I would love to see the monarchy abolished, but to me that's not nearly as important as getting independence. Independence is a separate issue from abolition of the monarchy. When Scotland becomes independent, it could retain the queen as head of state, or become a republic, or maybe there is some other democratic option available. It is pretty obvious though that abolishing the monarchy will not be achieved without a referendum at some stage - the pro-monarchy people wouldn't stand for that. As far as political independence goes, there are people who favour retaining a monarchy but who also support independence, and to link the two issues would mean that such people would probably vote against independence if removal of the monarchy was a certain consequence of independence.

As far as the EU is concerned, I am ambivalent. I am not entirely sure that we couldn't do better not being in the EU but being in EFTA, which it seems to me gives all the benefits of the EU without the downside of over-regulation and interference in every aspect of our lives. I do like the ides of mobility within Europe though. Scotland is actually in a very strong negotiating position as far as the EU is concerned because we are resource rich (oil, marine resources, renewables potential, hydro, water supply etc etc) and they wouldn't want to lose us.

I hardly think the Scottish people (apart from a very few such as cardinals) would have any truck with Rome rule.

The monarchy is anachronistic.

That per se, would not be so bad if our 'Royals' were seen to set standards of morality and decency.


Even without 'independence' they should be scrapped IMO.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 09:13:19
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 28 2008, 08:52 AM) [snapback]426838[/snapback]
Heaven forbid...that is the administrators job.

If administrators didn't do that we might not currently have a football club of our own dry.gif

This does not mean I'm arguing his case, I think Gretna should be wound up as they will be eventually, but you cannot say he is breaking rules by not closing the club down now!

I have SUGGESTED that his behaviour is questionable.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 09:15:34
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Mar 28 2008, 09:10 AM) [snapback]426847[/snapback]
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Deano? Does he fancy him too? ohmy.gif

I can see where your comin from in the defence of these 2 players, maybe I'm being a little harsh. I'm just playing devils advocate here and highlighting reasons why they will possibly be shown the door. smile.gif

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Welcome-we need more 'Devil's advocates', and less blinkered fools! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-28 09:29:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 28 2008, 09:19 AM) [snapback]426851[/snapback]
Tommy is a real decent bloke. I like him..

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Is that an opinion Spurtle?

Is he a personal friend of yours?
mortonjag 2008-03-28 09:35:12
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 28 2008, 09:28 AM) [snapback]426853[/snapback]
Well your suggestion is most likely wrong wink.gif

That is an utterly ludicrous comment which highlights your poor understanding of the English language.


THINK before replying this time. You MAY find that helpful!
mortonjag 2008-03-28 09:42:55
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 28 2008, 09:40 AM) [snapback]426858[/snapback]
I have met Tommy a few times.

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So have I and I think he's a f*ckin' chancer of the scummiest order, who easily cons the intellectually challenged! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-28 09:46:04
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 28 2008, 09:43 AM) [snapback]426861[/snapback]
Depending on who else is available I'd get rid of all of them, but it'll ultimately come down to who else is able to sign, and in our price range.

Surely the overriding consideration will be which division we end up playing in.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 09:48:01 I'm fed up being optimistic-I've been wrong so often that I'll predict 2-0 to Queens in the hope that my form continues!
mortonjag 2008-03-28 09:51:45
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 28 2008, 09:44 AM) [snapback]426862[/snapback]
I don't... laugh.gif

I'm unsurprised. You think Bawheid is a Saint too.

Our Blessed Bawheid of the Perpetual Confabulation.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 10:26:30
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 28 2008, 10:12 AM) [snapback]426872[/snapback]
And I'm sure the whole board have the same sentiments regarding your good self.

Gracious in defeat as always young man! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

That assertion is about as scientific as your previous one.

Now run off and study. You're clearly not ready to joust with the Jag! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-28 10:31:55
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 28 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]426871[/snapback]
1-0 Morton with a dodgy last minute goal into the home fans enclosure end smile.gif
...I'll be the wee one going off my hied if you're looking wink.gif

Nothing new then? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-28 13:58:22
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 28 2008, 11:53 AM) [snapback]426903[/snapback]
If we don't stay up I'm sure players will get contracts here

New employer

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Ah---the simplicity of the average footie fan. First it was JM-now it's because they're all bottlers.


If it WAS just down to lack of ability, the players could hardly be blamed.

I don't buy into this 'bottling out' sh*te-it's just ANOTHER excuse for so much that's wrong behind the scenes IMO.

DI/DC still have time to turn things around-starting with Palmerston.

Fingers crossed.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 14:01:24
QUOTE(princessTON @ Mar 28 2008, 11:17 AM) [snapback]426896[/snapback]
Look, i am not on here saying things like this all the time. I have reason to believe that this person is not lying. Thought i would share it with you guys. rolleyes.gif We will just have to wait and see on this one.

1k per week over three years Princess, or IOU's and free Fudgy Wudgys till the end of the season?
mortonjag 2008-03-28 14:06:24
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 28 2008, 01:01 PM) [snapback]426925[/snapback]
Couldn't be further from the truth. Far from being blinkered and certainly not blind. I want everyone in a Ton jersey to do well but that doesn't escape the reality that some of those that have had that honour have simply not been good enough. I remember Keenan's debut at Palmerston where he was sent off for a crunching tackle in the infamous Sean "I cried when I saw him lying there" O'Connor match and thought great he was a tough tackling no nonesense player, just the sort we need. A handful of games aside, he's looked to me to be very poor ever since.



'I can't think of one single time that Keenan has influenced a game to turn it in our favour'


That's what you said. I suggested it was because you were biased, and you deny that.
My conclusion is that you were not at the games where he impressed, and was MOTM.

Are you a part timer? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-28 14:08:03
QUOTE(BlueTube @ Mar 28 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]426886[/snapback]
2-1 for the Ton. Russell breaks the offside trap, at last, and slots home. Wake penalty for the second smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-28 14:10:56
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 28 2008, 02:00 PM) [snapback]426947[/snapback]
I hope we don't resort to long high balls - Jim Thomson will lap these up all afternoon. If there is any question mark over the Queens' central defence then it might be a slight lack of pace - I hope Davie Irons knows that.

Stevie Tosh is suspended - that could make a big difference. Only Neil Macfarlane to contend with then, although I understand he hasn't trained this week and so might well be rested, especially with the looming cup semi. O'Connor also said to be doubtful.

C'mon boys, let's win this one - saves me a lot of ribbing next week.

Jags definitely came of the pedal in the second half against us with midweek cup tie pending.

You may just have something there. The Doonhamers know they won't be promoted-for them the cup is now THE biggie. Fngers and toes crossed.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 14:13:21
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 28 2008, 01:55 PM) [snapback]426945[/snapback]
Can I say I'm dyslexic and get in for free cos I thought it said under 61?

I'd suggest 'decksillic'.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 14:15:33
QUOTE(princessTON @ Mar 28 2008, 02:07 PM) [snapback]426950[/snapback]
I go for free Fudgy Wudgys, i used to love them, not seen them in any shop for ages. smile.gif

You're kiddin'!!

I can get them in the wee shop round the corner up here. Is Greenock being victimised by the Shooglemeister?

He is INDEED a bad man.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 14:22:41
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 28 2008, 12:16 PM) [snapback]426915[/snapback]
I'm asking.

So it's no jist the wey yer staunin'?
mortonjag 2008-03-28 14:26:55
QUOTE(Rossco @ Mar 28 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]426928[/snapback]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7317115.stm
This is the woman who is only still in job by skin of her teeth yet rates herself as a perfect 10.

Next reshuffle of Labour & she is out of there serves the stuttering cow right perfect 10 my arse.

Why do people constantly feel the need to praise that verminous cretin?
mortonjag 2008-03-28 14:32:35
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 28 2008, 02:08 PM) [snapback]426951[/snapback]
The bassas don't like her Maj!

Aff wie their heids. mad.gif

'Her Royal Majesty, Queen Elizabeth the Second of Great Britain and Northern Ireland' to you Mr Bam taig.


Wee sweaty Betty, if you'd prefer! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-28 14:37:43 Clearly I've missed some fun. Spurtle is failing in his duties.


Don't tell me Bawheid was poncing about Hampden on a free ticket the other night. I'm surprised they didn't decapitate the pompous pr*ck and save the match ball for a serious competition.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 14:40:19
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Mar 28 2008, 01:48 PM) [snapback]426943[/snapback]
Agree laugh.gif , then again there has been a couple of Actors come go at cappielow over the years unsure.gif

Is Mr Rae a member of Equity?
mortonjag 2008-03-28 14:44:10
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Mar 28 2008, 02:24 PM) [snapback]426959[/snapback]
Maybe... what I should have really said is that to our knowledge he has not acted in a criminal way. And until we have evidence of this we must assume that he has not. Innocent until proven guilty and all that!

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You are commendably discreet!

I do take issue just with the one word, which should of course, be 'may'.


mortonjag 2008-03-28 14:49:00 The Monkey and Fing have been on the blower all morning-apparently Innes wants to sign for the Ton, but there's been a legal hitch over the blood test for Llama flu.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 14:56:07
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 28 2008, 02:42 PM) [snapback]426969[/snapback]
What's so funny?

I didn't check the blog, but if indeed that is true, I find it highly amusing that Keenan can be dismissed so readily.

I make no apology for using the term ' football afficionados and snobs' , JonaTon'

I'm referring to people who take a dislike to a player for reasons other than genuine ability or effectiveness. The cap need only be worn by those it fits.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 14:58:06
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Mar 28 2008, 02:56 PM) [snapback]426979[/snapback]
I hope Keenan can add something but I think people are clutching at straws when they talk about the difference he could make. He was never a regular starter for us in Division Two and having had little first team action at the start of the season he has been playing back in Division Two this season. I'm not sure what gives people the belief that he is going to give us a lift by coming back in. Desperation?

Reading some of the posts on here you'd think that Keenan was our answer to Vinnie Jones or Julian Dicks but while he is prone to committing reckless challenges occassionally, he's not the sort of player that is going to scare the opposition. Most of the games in which I've seen Keenan he's made mistakes or been pretty anonymous.

However much we've been struggling I would still put Keenan pretty low in the pecking order - I'd rather Walker or McAnespie were given a chance.

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mortonjag 2008-03-28 15:00:13
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 28 2008, 02:45 PM) [snapback]426973[/snapback]
i really wish i got one of your jokes....just once. sad.gif

go on MJ, lower yourself to my level of humour so we can regail in jovial witty banter.

...and I really wish folk would stop assuming I'm making jokes when I ask questions! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-28 15:02:54
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 28 2008, 02:48 PM) [snapback]426975[/snapback]
Another day, another attack on the SNP. Very predictable Doc Doom

Glasgow has a big unionist following, so no surprise there.

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Anabel's is distinctly misshapen Spurtle-and it would frighten the children.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 15:06:25
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 28 2008, 03:05 PM) [snapback]426985[/snapback]
laugh.gif good one! its the way you tell 'em.

....and it's Goodnight from me.....
mortonjag 2008-03-28 15:17:30
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 28 2008, 03:16 PM) [snapback]426989[/snapback]
and it's a goodnight from him.
gosh we're geat. have i ever told you that i think we're great? dont ever lose that.

Goodnight! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-28 16:04:18
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 28 2008, 03:26 PM) [snapback]426993[/snapback]
I know standards are dropping but is giving her 10 out of 10 not a misprint? Surely she meant 10 out of 100?

"Move on" is the phrase that is used repeatedly by Labour politicians when they want to avoid the question. Tony Blair did it constantly. Cash for Peerages? Move on. Iraq War? Move on....

As for Gordon Brown claiming that the SNP is threatening Scotland's prosperity: what prosperity would that be then? Brown is all spin and no substance - built up over a decade as some great intellect and said to be a superb chancellor, within weeks the whole charade falls apart and he is seen for what he is, a stuttering stammering idiot who can't cope with the simplest decision, his so-called prudence being revealed as based on excessive borrowing. The man is a fraud and a failure. Now widely hated throughout Scotland due to his anti-Scottish rhetoric, he may well be the first Prime Minister in living memory to lose his seat at the next election.

To get back to Wendy - ten pints and a paper bag over the head wouldn't be enough but I digress - she is a talentless wee nobody and if she is the best that Labour can come up with (and I'll concede that she is) then thank goodness she is never likely to be in power.



QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 28 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]426996[/snapback]
Gordon Brown has just predicted at their Labour conference, that she will one day be First Minister blink.gif

Mr Brown detailed, before the Aviemore gathering on Friday, Ms Alexander's "passion and brilliance". EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2008-03-28 16:06:50
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 28 2008, 04:00 PM) [snapback]426999[/snapback]
So not my fault RBS make safes that a JCB can crack open if I chose to rob a bank? blink.gif

Sometimes I worry about your logic young man. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-28 16:09:17
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 28 2008, 04:03 PM) [snapback]427000[/snapback]
Don't even need to give away names, just the position they play would do me wink.gif

Hopefully a goalkeeper.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 16:15:07
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 28 2008, 04:11 PM) [snapback]427010[/snapback]
if its a pre-contract then its not as if a club can come inand steal them so might aswell spill who it is tongue.gif

.....because....
mortonjag 2008-03-28 16:25:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 28 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]427016[/snapback]
don't start this pish again laugh.gif

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Thats a PEE contract.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 16:27:57
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 28 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]427015[/snapback]
God bless her!

BTW, capital T for Taig wink.gif

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Sorry Mr Bam-Taig! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-28 16:31:28
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 28 2008, 04:27 PM) [snapback]427023[/snapback]
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finally lowering the tone of your jokes to my level. I actually got that one and laughed. biggrin.gif laugh.gif

Urine for more laughs.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 16:37:25
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Mar 28 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]427028[/snapback]
Gretna to go under after the SPL split I would imagine

No-no you don't understand-the Administrator is going to save them-HONEST.

He sees them as an utterly viable proposition, fully expecting them to make handsome profits from the first division championship winning run next season, which will see them bounce straight back into the SPL, by which time the new super stadium will be fully constructed, thanks to Alibi having been paid in full, and having agreed to continue with the work. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-28 17:25:25
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Mar 28 2008, 04:43 PM) [snapback]427032[/snapback]
You must have been on a half day today and striaght on to the tonic wine sir!

Not really- Gretna are well and truly F*CKED-the SPL are keeping them afloat for totally selfish reasons, thanks to the co-operation of a 'tame' administrator, and certain resident 'specialists' are willing to fly in the face of reality, to his defence. For whatever reason I'm not entirely sure! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-28 17:29:25 Everybody knows Shire need a goalscorer!
mortonjag 2008-03-28 17:36:18
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 28 2008, 05:31 PM) [snapback]427053[/snapback]
Your "diagnosis" is somewhat wide of the mark. Perhaps it's a simple case of him never doing much to impress in the games I have seen him play. I think he is extremely limited in his ability and what he offers the team. Simply because some pissed up guest or his mum has been at hospitality does not necessarily mean I always agree with the MotMs dished out at Cappielow. Infact it is often the case that most of the shed are left flummoxed by the choice.

peterhead away last season scored the winner !!
started the move that led to goal against dunfermline away this season


...as somebody else pointed out. Was also MOTM against Beath playing left back in what was then a table top clash.


Oh and BTW I made an observation, NOT a diagnosis! wink.gif


Ratarse sees what he wants to see and disregards the rest.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 17:41:01 Does Mr Rae have a 'master plan'?
mortonjag 2008-03-28 17:55:19
QUOTE(Toby @ Mar 28 2008, 05:52 PM) [snapback]427063[/snapback]
You certainly were too scared to ask him anything.

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....and he openly, honestly, and directly answered those who questioned him!

You were not s***ebags Toby-just punch bags for the Shooglemeister! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 06:30:15
QUOTE(Savo @ Mar 28 2008, 11:51 PM) [snapback]427204[/snapback]
Was near the front of the West Stand, where it meets the North, talking to JonaTon at the time and we both heard it loud and clear from all around.

Any politician walking on to a football pitch should be realistic enough to expect it.

I know that McConnell certainly did at Cappielow. He told Rae repeatedly that it was an extremely bad idea but DDF was adamant and hauled him out regardless rolleyes.gif

And they call Mortonjag a s***ebag!!!!!


Aye right.


Rae's skin is as thick as his skull.
mortonjag 2008-03-29 06:33:00
QUOTE(Toby @ Mar 28 2008, 06:12 PM) [snapback]427070[/snapback]
No, he didn't openly and honestly answer them.

It was however a hit worth taking from him laugh.gif in order that he knew exactly what many think of him.

And it certainly didn't make me look like a s***ebag. Can you say the same for everyone's perception of yourself in light of the Q & A?

NO-and do you think I care-but well done to you anyway! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 06:44:33
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 28 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]427182[/snapback]
Cos for a certain amount of time in the womb your sex is not determined, however nipples begin their growth at this time. So when it was decided you were to have a wee dingaling the nips were already there. smile.gif

You've been reading the wrong books again boy-stick with the numbers.

If God hadn't wanted men to have nipples, they wouldn't have them.

HIV and Hepatitis would also be less prevalent.
mortonjag 2008-03-29 06:47:41
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Mar 28 2008, 10:08 PM) [snapback]427172[/snapback]
Talk in Dunfermline that the parent group of the Tele, the Dunfy Press and a few other local newspapers is heading for administration. An word in Greenock? Maybe Lancashire Hotpot knows.

Don't worry, the SPL will bail them out-it has a soft spot for lost causes. ph34r.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 06:55:27
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 28 2008, 08:19 PM) [snapback]427129[/snapback]
Your right Bob DDFR is the guilty party for this years shambles .

McInally was given his full backing and even criticised supporters for airing their fears . He was still persevering with the myth that everything was going well for the first 18 games despite our atrocious home record .

......and JM is off the hook! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 06:58:58
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Mar 28 2008, 08:32 PM) [snapback]427137[/snapback]
Of course the SPL are keeping them alive to save their own skin.....and to the detriment of creditors. The SPL are a faceless, spineless bunch of w*nkers only interested in self preservation. The SPL change the rules to suit theirself at all times...... therefore of course they don't want the embarrasement of having to rejig the league table. They do it because they can...simple as that!

You may remember that Falkirk were denied entry to the SPL because they were not allowed to groundshare.....Gretna were!
You may remember St Mirren applied to play at 2 grounds in one season (Love St then the new stadium). This was denied meaning St Mirren had to incur the costly expense of installing undersoil heating. Gretna have been allowed to play home games at different grounds this term.

The right arm doesn;t know what the left arm is doing at the SPL. Run my incompetent morons out for there own greed AND NOT the good of the Scottish game!!!



The Administrator COULD have politely declined! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 07:04:45
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Mar 28 2008, 10:37 PM) [snapback]427188[/snapback]
Tell fing to grab the nail gun and pony tail and to apply significant pressure until the target submits. Failure to agree will result in termination.

Fing will give you a bell when he's shrieking for mercy and a last fag Vader.


Then it's up to you!



HSSSSSS-AAAAAAAAAAAH krrrrrrrrowk--hee, hee. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 07:09:49
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Mar 28 2008, 09:20 PM) [snapback]427157[/snapback]
Looks as if O'Connor and McFarlane are unlikely to make it either. Hope so!!

http://www.qosfc.com/07news.htm

Maybe the astute Mr Rae is looking to some money from the cup. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 07:12:26
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Mar 29 2008, 12:03 AM) [snapback]427208[/snapback]
Having been to several Spurs games with one of my mates (who is a massive Spurs fan for some reason), I can safely say that I would rather be at Palmerston. The quality of football may be better - but the atmosphere is s***e, the prices are outrageous and it is crap watching a game as a neutral.

Compulsive eater?
mortonjag 2008-03-29 07:22:09 >According to the Sun Allan Moore states he could have done without losing Eric Paartalu to Morton looks as if we signed him from Gretna.[/quote]




Extremely interesting BB.

We COULD, of course, have tapped into Aussie talent before now-POST Maisano era. Craig Elvin played trials for us, scored two against Dundee in a friendly, and was sent back home.

Stan Webster rates him more highly than Simon Storey (whom he also coached) and who was a stand out last week against Rangers (for the Jags). mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 08:11:18
QUOTE(dazed @ Mar 29 2008, 08:02 AM) [snapback]427262[/snapback]
Ive seen that woman in the shops in Bishopton and she's a haunted hoose alright.! bloody scary! laugh.gif

But she's a lovely person (for a politician) and genuinely cultured, having gone to the same school as Mortonjag!
mortonjag 2008-03-29 08:14:14
QUOTE(dazed @ Mar 29 2008, 08:09 AM) [snapback]427265[/snapback]
JEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH! how lucky she is to be so perfect! not! more like pathetic! mad.gif

She clearly lives on planet Wendy, unfortunately for her no one else does! laugh.gif

Peter Pan-the Professor house husband looks after the family in Glasgow's leafy Hyndland while Wendy scares kids on the streets of the Capital.
mortonjag 2008-03-29 08:19:40
QUOTE(dazed @ Mar 29 2008, 08:14 AM) [snapback]427268[/snapback]
There seems a good reason for a school demoloition, so no more emerge! lol! laugh.gif and she is most certainly not lovely either!!! laugh.gif

Poor Anabel-she always wanted to marry, or so she claims, 'but the right man just never came along'!
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Quoted straight from the horse's mouth BTW. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 08:22:38
QUOTE(dazed @ Mar 29 2008, 07:59 AM) [snapback]427261[/snapback]
The same story is in the Scotsman this morning, seems like he has signed for Morton.

Didn't realise you got broadsheets in the port! blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 08:37:29
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Mar 29 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]427271[/snapback]
will be glad to see the ened of the innes saga which lasted longer than a bad episode of dallas, paartalu will be a good signing

Aye, thrustful attacking 21 year old midfielder who will be called a 'striker' after his first goal!

Nothing on GMFC.net mind! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 08:45:54
QUOTE(dazed @ Mar 29 2008, 08:15 AM) [snapback]427269[/snapback]
LMAO laugh.gif Couldn't have put it better! laugh.gif

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Hopefully Spurtle will notice that I've done Wendy, Anabel, and Bawheid in 24 hours.

He claims I'm anti SNP and Unionist!!!

Mind you Salmond does look strangely inbred-that bonce is reminiscent of one of those Halloween lanterns waved by the children to assist Anabel and Wendy's safe landing.


mortonjag 2008-03-29 08:58:52
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 29 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]427277[/snapback]
Britain is the minor league of mass murder compared to Maoist China, Stalinist Russia or Nazi Germany. Even counting the ravages of colonialism, its part in the slave trade and the history of oppression in Scotland and Ireland, Britain is surpassed by those three. Having said all that, aye, cancel London as well, if only for the illegal war in Iraq. Scottish athletes shouldn't be going to China anyway, because they can't represent their own country. Feck it, cancel all the Olympics, just because they are more about political propoganda and less about sport.
Edit to add: Feck the Commonwealth Games as well, there are better uses for Scotland's money. cool.gif

Cancel the Oympic games-simple.

Shamateur and anachronistic flag waving phantasmagoria.
mortonjag 2008-03-29 09:01:38
QUOTE(jpmil @ Mar 29 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]427279[/snapback]
I just can't believe this move by JM. The lad played against St. M and did really well and was then promptly overlooked by JM and never had chance (I don't even remember him being on the bench) at the time we were crying out for a full-back. Then JM has the cheek (and I've put it very mildly) to come back and take him on loan (what a tosser).

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JM was not the only person with influence at Cappielow. I agree it seems odd.It would be nice to know the inside story!
mortonjag 2008-03-29 09:04:11
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ Mar 29 2008, 08:56 AM) [snapback]427278[/snapback]
I think this is the toughest match of the season so far. Especially when you add the fact that we now have real pressure on us to win.

A draw would normally be acceptable but lets not kid ourselves we need to win.

I cant see us winning and reckon it may finish 2-2.

We have to keep their centre backs moving and try and stretch the game, long balls will be food and drink for them.

JB

Will you be having a few today?


Many happy returns! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 09:10:32
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 29 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]427282[/snapback]
I would suggest that almost everyone on this forum has goods in their home made in China. In fact I would go so far as to say that the majority of goods in homes will be Chinese made. Certainly the musicians on here will all have Chinese made goods, unless you're buying expensive US made gear. The Chinese have made themselves almost beyond reproach as the world economy is entirely reliant on them.
That's not to say that nothing can be done but until we learn to consume less and demand cheap goods the Chinese will see that as a green light to continue murdering their own people.
I assume the comment about England having a history of murder was tongue in cheek.

Indeed Mr McArthur-they've even produced their first car for sale over here-innovatively named the 'Cherry'.

Any self respecting motorist would need to be stoned to be seen driving one.

Just give it ten years though-it's easy to see what's coming. I'm old enough to remember the days when the motorcycling world was dominated by British machines.
mortonjag 2008-03-29 09:13:04
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 29 2008, 09:06 AM) [snapback]427284[/snapback]
The Scotsman is not a broadsheet.

Who said it is?
mortonjag 2008-03-29 09:18:13
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 29 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]427289[/snapback]
Aye, it's a tabloid, same as the Sun and the Record (but these two are now more commonly referred to as 'redtops').

McArthur can be pedantic when it suits him DE-did you notice?
mortonjag 2008-03-29 09:21:16
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 29 2008, 09:17 AM) [snapback]427290[/snapback]
It's actually much harder than you think. Even if you buy 'British made' goods the chances are you'll be buying components made in China as almost everything has passed through there at some point. I've noticed that in my game more and more guitars are being marketed as 'US/UK designed' but when you look closer are made in China. Sadly I may have to go out there soon for a factory visit.
I'm not an economist and I don't know what the answer is.

When rape is inevitable Mr McArthur-what to do? sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 09:25:54
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 29 2008, 09:19 AM) [snapback]427292[/snapback]
You did Mr MJ. Dazed said he'd read something in The Scotsman and you said you didn't realise they got broadsheets in the Port.



QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 29 2008, 09:20 AM) [snapback]427293[/snapback]
You made the link between 'The Scotsman' and 'broadsheet', and then denied it. biggrin.gif

Mortonjag did NOT state that the Scotsman is a broadsheet gentlemen! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 09:28:13
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 29 2008, 09:22 AM) [snapback]427295[/snapback]
Yawn. :rolleyes:
The same Sun article confirms that Innes has knocked back a deal. So that puts an end to that.

Paartalu will be a good addition to the squad, mind. smile.gif

Don't encourage me-you KNOW you shouldn't. Some day the full story may emerge! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 10:05:01
QUOTE(dazed @ Mar 29 2008, 09:51 AM) [snapback]427307[/snapback]
There is nothing "deliverence like" about Mr Salmonds noggin! laugh.gif

The good old Scottish expression-'Ye've got a face only a maw could love' springs to mind.


Sorry Moira! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 10:09:55
QUOTE(dazed @ Mar 29 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]427309[/snapback]
or should that be right bull........ well she is a bit of a heifer! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
is that from Mr Eds mouth????????

I've seen her more than once at the annual Kilmacolm Cattle Show, though I don't recall any blue rosettes.
mortonjag 2008-03-29 10:13:57
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 29 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]427303[/snapback]
criminal behaviour laugh.gif

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pink camshafts
mortonjag 2008-03-29 10:17:17
QUOTE(dazed @ Mar 29 2008, 09:48 AM) [snapback]427305[/snapback]
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My dear sir I have been an avid reader of the Scotsman for more years than I care to remember and it has been a compact paper for nearly 2 years now!

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A compact broadsheet! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 10:17:52
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 29 2008, 09:49 AM) [snapback]427306[/snapback]
he just capitalised the wrong word tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-29 10:18:42
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 29 2008, 09:57 AM) [snapback]427310[/snapback]
You need very little encouragement MJ wink.gif

She tells me that too.
mortonjag 2008-03-29 10:19:46
QUOTE(The Viking @ Mar 29 2008, 10:03 AM) [snapback]427312[/snapback]
The Daily Record (St.Mirren v Gretna preview) also claims that Irons is looking to sign Gavin Skelton and Greg Fleming.

FFS-we might as well take the bloody llamas on trial too!
mortonjag 2008-03-29 10:21:55
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 29 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]427316[/snapback]
Now I know, you're a Spin Doctor. tongue.gif

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Not really DE-just a stubborn and obtuse old c*nt who gets his kicks out of prevarication when he's not in a bad mood.
mortonjag 2008-03-29 10:27:11
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 29 2008, 10:15 AM) [snapback]427319[/snapback]
good post davie but my comment about murder was aimed at the british empire. it certainly wasn't tongue in cheek.

Aye forza but this is the 21st century-even your old w*nker friend Winston would be 134 if God had spared him. ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 10:29:40
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Mar 29 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]427325[/snapback]
Of course they could have, but why would they when it is in the SPL's interests and the administrators interests to keep this soap going for aslong as they can.

....which is why I've asked questions about professional conduct of the Administrator, who claims he's acting ony in the creditors' interest! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 11:11:21
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 29 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]427339[/snapback]
Confession ! I knew it. MJ's a golfer.

TonInDublin

Why did it take you so log darling? wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 11:19:40
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Mar 29 2008, 10:48 AM) [snapback]427332[/snapback]
Is he a poet??

Nah-just a taig with a inflated opinion of taigery, but if it keeps him happy, Mr Bam-Taig it shall be!


Anyhow Micky Boy-will you beat those evil Huns today-will the ginger cretin gnome get a reprieve or will he be banished to a life of ludgery? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 11:23:16
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 29 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]427345[/snapback]
So "log" ? You ARE a golfer. Surely a Freudian slip. I think we should be told.

TonInDublin

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Twas indeed a slip-I cannt deny it-twig.
mortonjag 2008-03-29 11:31:02
QUOTE(lemmington @ Mar 29 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]427334[/snapback]
Just found out how to ignore certain members and surprise surprise I have put mortonjag on ignore.
I am totally fed up with the crappy one liners(to enhance his posts) and the s***e that he types on a daily(minute)basis.
Get a life.

Dedicated follower of fashion!

or


Lemming.

Did that sad plank really start a thread just to boast that he's discovered the huff button after almost three years?

Jesus Christ-he'll be on next- telling us how he got his first 'hard on' when Shoogly was tying his shoelaces in hospitality.
mortonjag 2008-03-30 08:18:28
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 29 2008, 02:25 PM) [snapback]427369[/snapback]
His answers were unconvincing with regard to substance but cemented what I already thought . We need someone with a knowledge of football (who has played or managed in a professional capacity )on the board .

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mortonjag 2008-03-30 08:27:13
QUOTE(centralTON @ Mar 30 2008, 01:37 AM) [snapback]427744[/snapback]
Is your new bathroom leak free ? wink.gif

I hope he's a good swimmer Central!!!!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-30 08:31:56
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Mar 29 2008, 02:44 PM) [snapback]427384[/snapback]
My ignore list

Mr MOrton (probably a rouge skunk on the wind up when the site first came up)
mortonjag
William Orange
Lord Haw haw (the Unionist one, not the septic fan from P&B)

I have only ever taken one person off "Ignore", and that was Shakehands Tom on P&B, as I had it on good authority that he had stopped being a fanny and had actually grown up.

mortonjag's habit of contributing every second post on the board (none of it visible to me, but the reaction of others suggests that things have not changed) is the main reason that I rarely bother with this forum.

Mortonjag enjoys helping others.
mortonjag 2008-03-30 08:33:40
QUOTE(SramTon @ Mar 29 2008, 10:10 PM) [snapback]427694[/snapback]
For the first time ever I put someone on ignore this morning.

However the "ignore" message is just as prominent as the original posts.

I want to be able to actually ignore them, I don't want to know that they've posted, I don't want the option of reading anymore of their dross. What I want is, in effect, a hide button.

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Beltrami bites the dust-sad fud.
mortonjag 2008-03-30 08:41:58
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 30 2008, 03:30 AM) [snapback]427754[/snapback]
really old house mate. only one isolation point sad.gif

If it's a really old shower too, and you DO have to call a plumber, you'd be as well buying a new one and getting him to chuck it on. As Central says a couple of wee isolation valves cost 'buttons'.
mortonjag 2008-03-30 08:43:32
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 29 2008, 11:54 PM) [snapback]427714[/snapback]
Awwwww leaf the boy alone
Hawwwwwww haaaaaaaaa

Leaf him--my birch is at the ready.
mortonjag 2008-03-30 09:06:56
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Mar 29 2008, 12:50 PM) [snapback]427366[/snapback]
oh change the record ffs you borin cnt



QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 29 2008, 01:31 PM) [snapback]427371[/snapback]
For the record, Craig Elvin was not good enough in the Dundee game, the goals were not enough to make him a worthwhile signing.



QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Mar 29 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]427372[/snapback]
Correct. No better than what we had at the time. Yes, he was that bad! laugh.gif

Captain and player of the year with Melbourne Knights last season and rated well ahead of Simon Storey, now of Partick by a guy who also coached Scott McDonald, and currently has proteges at Portsmouth, and Newcastle.

Grow up children. You're still seeing the damage cause by what JM DID think was worthwhile.

Webstergate was indeed a farce! mad.gif



mortonjag 2008-03-30 09:09:52
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 29 2008, 06:52 PM) [snapback]427604[/snapback]
ding! deviation biggrin.gif

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You'd know abut that-wouldn't WE darling!
mortonjag 2008-03-30 09:27:18
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 29 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]427669[/snapback]
Indeed he has but he nearly cost us a goal when he decided to run past the ball.

I gave my vote to the wee ginger nut.

He DIDN'T decide to run past the ball-McGregor should have left it as Lee was going to pick up safely-it was almost knocked PAST him.

The boy made no mistakes against one of the most threatening sides in the league, and kept us in the game with a SUPERB dive to his right late in the second half.


He also chose to punch clear on one occasion and got the ball safely out of the danger area.

In addition he had an inspired throw out against the wind-past the bloody half way line, -we would have had a clean break away except for a slightly iffy offside decision.

Finally his kicking was FAR better and effective against the wind than the other Goalie's.

Credit where due folks! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-30 09:35:56
QUOTE(tom @ Mar 30 2008, 08:22 AM) [snapback]427770[/snapback]
Rubbish.


NO-Tom-it's NOT rubbish.


I agree with your opinion about Jenkins. I disagree with Houston's.

Simple and civilised! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-30 09:49:19 That was undoubtedly the most enjoyable Ton performance since the last one at Palmerston-Dumfries has been good to us this season.

I thought our fans were superb throughout-much though I detest Shoogly's pontifications, it IS sad that we can't give nearly so much encouragement at home.

What was that bloody monologue all about-I could hardly hear a word but was still creasing myself!!!!! laugh.gif

Some funny chants too, and sustained support throughout, including 'Only one Davie Irons'.

I thought the boys did us proud-even if we only get to play offs I'm getting more confident-there was FAR more belief today, and Paartalu made an instant impression-he's got that wee bit of arrogance we've been lacking, and McGuffie blossomed beside him.

OK there were a couple of wee things went wrong-and I believe we SHOULD have won it, but I'm not going to start nitpicking-well not about the lads!


Having to walk all the way round the back in pishing rain and Bovril made with sea water-the Monkey was unimpressed.
mortonjag 2008-03-30 09:56:32 Scott McLaughlin-winner of this week's FALL GUY award! laugh.gif

If his 30 yarder had gone in, he'd have probably been MOTM.


Funny old game-eh! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-30 11:43:12
QUOTE(MSC @ Mar 30 2008, 10:06 AM) [snapback]427779[/snapback]
He is a lazy, alcoholic, gambling addict and should be the first out the door come the end of this f*** up of a season. We needed players lik him to shine and lead by example this term and he has done his usual as the season wears on he give up and becomes even more lazy.
Aw you so called fans who think he is the bees knees, need to open your eyes to the attitude he has. He has pulled the wool over Mr Raes eyes on many an occasion.
DC don't like him anyhow and with any luck this will be his last season taking the c*** out of the fans who pay his wages.

And you appear to be a cowardly troublemaking rumour monger with an axe to grind.

It's easy to hide behind anonymity.

Pulled the wool over MR RAE'S eyes has he?

Maybe that was because Shoogly was distracted by your scurrilous tongue half way up his sigmoid colon.
mortonjag 2008-03-30 11:53:21
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Mar 30 2008, 10:20 AM) [snapback]427782[/snapback]
Yesterday a few other players said they would take the free kick, and Scott refused.

He is shocking, he has a few bright sparks, like the goal against Buckie Thistle. But he isn't good enough for this league.

Drop him, and if you can't, make sure he never touches another dead ball.

Trouble is he HAD hit that cracker in the first half. I agree that Scotty is always at the 'Me' stuff. That's for the manager to sort IMO.
mortonjag 2008-03-30 11:55:12
QUOTE(tom @ Mar 30 2008, 11:45 AM) [snapback]427796[/snapback]
Ok, you're probably correct. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, even when it's rubbish. Jenkins will be one of our best players, this season and future seasons. IMHO of course.

Budding politician-Spurtle will be proud of you! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-30 12:02:13
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 30 2008, 11:50 AM) [snapback]427797[/snapback]
that's what i want as well.

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mortonjag 2008-03-30 12:04:14
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Mar 30 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]427803[/snapback]
Did he not have Peter (?) lay it off for him?

So it wasn't even a dead ball tongue.gif

Did I say it was a dead ball? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-30 12:10:09
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 30 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]427810[/snapback]
for crap such as this.

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You've not even got me on ignore darling-you really are fatally attracted to my every post-just like all the other lying huff buttoners! sleep.gif wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-30 12:12:07
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Mar 30 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]427809[/snapback]
No, but you quoted me talking about Scott's dead balls.

AND! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-30 12:16:22
QUOTE(tom @ Mar 30 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]427811[/snapback]
Budding never, politician perhaps, but stirrer..... guilty.

Power be to your spoon-there are too many folk on here taking themselves WAY too seriously! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-30 12:19:15
QUOTE(Kaney @ Mar 30 2008, 12:16 PM) [snapback]427816[/snapback]
Sounds brilliant.

Make it happen someone!

Ethnic cleansing comes to greenockmorton.org! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-30 12:22:50
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Mar 30 2008, 12:14 PM) [snapback]427815[/snapback]
Therefore implying you were talking about Scott's free-kicks.

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All I said was that he HAD hit a scorching shot earlier. I simply introduced the possibility that that was why the others let him take it.

I didn't suggest-or think-that they should have!
mortonjag 2008-03-30 12:42:04
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 30 2008, 12:40 PM) [snapback]427825[/snapback]
like someone else said, the ignore message is as just as obtrusive, although not nearly as irritating.
talk about self-regard.

Be my guest Narcissus! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-30 12:51:14
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Mar 30 2008, 12:45 PM) [snapback]427827[/snapback]
It can't be wink.gif Because even after a whole day of s*** free kicks he still wants to take him.

Maybe they all owe him money!
mortonjag 2008-03-30 12:55:05
QUOTE(dj-ton @ Mar 30 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]427828[/snapback]
silly question,
what happens when you put someone on ignore?? does it just stop them from private messageing you?

Haven't a clue-have never done it, and don't see the point. Some of the little souls on the forum are so precious and petty.

It takes all kinds though-even the kind who wish it didn't! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-30 13:55:53
QUOTE(jpmil @ Mar 30 2008, 01:48 PM) [snapback]427848[/snapback]
I was going through this thread and kept reading (for a few moments at least) the inane Mortonjag input and then I thought to myself howcome?... he's on my "blockked list" then I realised I had forgotten to
sign in......silly old me! Now that I've signed in the site is so much better to read.

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mortonjag 2008-03-30 14:02:18
QUOTE(jpmil @ Mar 30 2008, 01:59 PM) [snapback]427852[/snapback]
I had an experience a few years ago in Spain in which 2 british teams were playing but it was being covered by a German channel with commentary in that language. However the bar owner had the TV on mute and the same game was being covered on radio by (probably) the BBC but the two don't really didn't sync and when a goal was scored the radio was 3/4 seconds ahead of the TV coverage....it was really quite amusing the raio commentator said Goal!!!!! and on TV the shot hadn't even been taken

Fascinating.
mortonjag 2008-03-30 14:22:29
QUOTE(jpmil @ Mar 30 2008, 02:12 PM) [snapback]427855[/snapback]
An extermely difficult time for anyone on the loss of a father but DI's desison to attend the game, to me signifies, his commitment to the job in hand. Thank you David the dedication is, from the supporters, recognised and much appreciated.

Does David read our forum?
mortonjag 2008-03-30 18:01:45
QUOTE(jpmil @ Mar 30 2008, 02:45 PM) [snapback]427860[/snapback]
Unfortunately the acts of JM will long outlive his departure from Cappielow. Whether it was due to the financial contraints placed upon him by DDFR (or not) in his tenure we have seen the efforts of Joe McLaughlin destroyed and any effort to bring through the training ranks of youth development teh next generation of Morton players.
With the departure of Craig Black, I see the last thread of hope going out the window.
We will become a "free transfer" club trying to pick up teh discards from other clubs and just hope things work out.
Just before Newton comes on with a quote the: Brown, Boyd and Mallon, Reilly Keirnan Strachan,
Adamson, Stevenson, Caven, McGraw & Wilson will never happen again (cerainly no in my lifetime which is running out quickly).
I've suported Morton since the 1950's and I've never seen any major trophy arrive there and will blunty accept anything before I go to my grave......preferably the Scottish Cup!!!!!!!!!!

You see the departure of young Black as symbolic of 'hope gone'.

It takes a while to dawn on some folk.

Newton knows a damned sight more than you do about the reason for our current situation.

Of course you won't see this post, as you are one of the self confessed clowns who chooses to ignore Mortonjag.
mortonjag 2008-03-30 18:13:15
QUOTE(jpmil @ Mar 30 2008, 03:03 PM) [snapback]427863[/snapback]
I honestly haven't read all the postings on this matter but with McLaughlin (and others) the delivery of set pieces frm Morton is "floated" never at "pace" and if you watch the "better teams" a la Permieship "pace is the name of the game from which defenders are immediately under pressure to clear or do and own goal.

Which makes you look arrogant?/daft as four other posters have/could have said exactly the same.

The set piece late on yesterday was ruined BTW because SM tried to land the ball in Raydale. Not much 'float'about that one as it cannoned off the wall at 100 mph! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-30 18:20:28
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 30 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]427903[/snapback]
No its not! There's only 2 goals in it GD (-20 v -22) We are less likely to lose big than Clyde.

For once I agree with you, numbers man-even if it's just to disagree with that clown!

I know you didn't manage yesterday-the self belief is definitely creeping back-the fans were united behind the lads, and there wasn't one passenger.

I'm pretty sure Davie Irons had many things on his mind yesterday-he deserved this, and we could have snatched three points. It's feeling much better.


'GOOFED'


I think not.
mortonjag 2008-03-30 18:23:21
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 30 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]427906[/snapback]
Barring poor delivery, the players in the box are hardly making lung-bursting and intelligent runs when the ball comes into the area.
We miss players like Hawke to take advantage of these situations.
Delivery is not the only problem with our set pieces.

Correct-a skilled player can put plenty of bend on the modern ball without 'tanking it'.

No coconut shy without coconuts.
mortonjag 2008-03-30 18:25:16
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Mar 30 2008, 04:46 PM) [snapback]427886[/snapback]
Your barks worse than your bite.

I'm a big sap really.
mortonjag 2008-03-30 18:28:59
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 30 2008, 06:25 PM) [snapback]427910[/snapback]
I'm not much younger than you and my 'first' real Morton team had a forward line of Adamson, Stevenson, Caven. McGraw and Wilson. You have to remember that we are in different times now. In those days Morton were at least on a par with any team outside the top six. Old firm players got paid £100-150 per week and our guys were on £50 (I know because my dad was a bookie and the whole team bet with him in the sixties - I knew there wages because of their credit limits) Does anyone think that Morton players are currently on about a third of old firm wages?

One thing I do agree with you on though is the lack of a proper youth setup. As we are structured we will never see another Joe Harper or George Anderson or Joe McLaughlin come through the ranks because there are no ranks for them to come through.

Mr Rae, if you want to leave Morton a legacy, a decent youth setup should be it. Nothing else you do has the same potential to provide for Morton's future.

Oh and JPMIL, the best you and I can hope for is to see them back in the top league before we die!

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mortonjag 2008-03-30 18:30:36
QUOTE(Deficon @ Mar 30 2008, 06:28 PM) [snapback]427913[/snapback]
who knows if he does? blink.gif
perhaps u have his number so we can all text him instead?,
Or even his email and we'll forward them on mortonjag, how would that be for you?
Thanks for letting us all use the board,
you know - we are thankfull to you for that but also the privilege that we can us it for things other than talking Sh*te.

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mortonjag 2008-03-30 18:34:53
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 30 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]427912[/snapback]
I disagree.

You would!


OK Kev was his usual frustrating self and missed a good chance and faded in the second half, but he still worked his baws off had a good shot on goal and almost created one for Spoonsy-PLUS all the usual tracking back to help the defence.

NOT a passenger by any means!
mortonjag 2008-03-30 19:50:06
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 30 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]427920[/snapback]
I wasn't talking about Kevin.

That's a refreshing change-if McGuffie's your target this week-back off-he was vastly improved especially in the first half and blended well with Pantaloons. Queens were outplayed in the midfield yesterday, and what did get through was dealt with pretty well by the defence.

It's just a wee shame we're lacking in options up front, but Rome wasn't built in a day.
mortonjag 2008-03-30 19:54:09 One game at a time. Most would have settled for a draw away at Palmerston, as Queens have been s*** hot of late.

Now our turn to put one over the DEE for the first time this season?


I'm really LOOKING FORWARD to this game-that's a first for quite a while. The Monkey is excited too.
mortonjag 2008-03-30 20:01:32
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Mar 30 2008, 07:58 PM) [snapback]427961[/snapback]
The Wee Dublin End, the guy with the bugle, no segregation, pre season friendlies against teams who were something, the steam coming off the crowd in the cowshed on a wet day, Joe Harper poaching another and Billy Osborne acting like a true mentalist.

Indeed, by far one of the least talented and most effective battering rams of all time. Great excitement.

Bring back SUGAR!!!
mortonjag 2008-03-30 20:02:49
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Mar 30 2008, 04:59 PM) [snapback]427888[/snapback]
Hopefully we can now flush out the s*** in the team, or he could end up being pish and it'll be more money down the pan?

Any other portaloo puns? I think that just about covers it. Close this thread before that mortonjag guy shows up.

I have already mentioned PANTALOONS! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-30 20:08:31 McAnespie apparently approached the club about training facilities in the first instance. He was hailed by our Chairman in the usual 'look at what I've done for you again' manner----ex-premiership player who will.......etc., etc.


I have yet to see him put in a decent shift.
mortonjag 2008-03-30 20:17:44
QUOTE(big B @ Mar 30 2008, 08:06 PM) [snapback]427965[/snapback]
Hopefully the fans turnout in force for this one and we get a decent crowd that also make a decent atmosphere because it does help the team as was shown against Kilmarnock.

Exactly BB-Dundee are desperate for the points and will bring a large crowd. This is our chance to finally prove the power of the Cowshed by turning it into a true cup tie atmosphere. Everything to play for IMO.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 06:38:25
QUOTE(PCP @ Mar 30 2008, 08:58 PM) [snapback]427976[/snapback]
What is the meaning of life?

Gap between nothing and nothing.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 06:41:43
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 30 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]428014[/snapback]
I'm probably not as good at the BREAST stroke as you ?!*&

I have never behaved unethically, though! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 06:43:27
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 30 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]428017[/snapback]
we know

Are you pining for me?
mortonjag 2008-03-31 06:49:05
QUOTE(leyTON @ Mar 30 2008, 11:34 PM) [snapback]428040[/snapback]
but salmond wants to keep the royaals, so he wouldnt have a referundum, eben after independence to scrap them

No he doesn't-it's just a con. Bawheid only believes in one King-Cole, with his fiddlers, three.......


Swinney, Sturgeon, and Hyslop.

Anyway, let's get this bloody referendum over and done with.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 06:55:26
QUOTE(SramTon @ Mar 30 2008, 09:49 PM) [snapback]427992[/snapback]
Sadly due to the inadequacies of the ignore button, I had the privilege of reading that.

I'm not sure what a "dust-sad" is, but please don't bother to explain.

I'm assuming that request is directed to me Beltrami.

I won't explain.

Anything to keep the almost educated happy. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 06:58:47
QUOTE(alexp @ Mar 30 2008, 11:13 PM) [snapback]428030[/snapback]
if you actually want to ignore him, why make a thread about him, just to give him more attention? huh.gif

It's called 'fatal fascination'.

It's a condition all too common in Morton supporters-inability to learn from previous unhappy experiences.

I've got MJ on 'ignore' = 'I'll never be back to Cappielow' laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 07:02:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 31 2008, 01:57 AM) [snapback]428077[/snapback]
telling us how he got his first 'hard on' when Shoogly was tying his shoelaces in hospitality.
mortonjag, could please clarify the antecedent to eliminate the ambiguity ?

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Today's children don't wear proper lacing shoes Newt! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 07:08:08
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 30 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]427977[/snapback]
Why can't I believe her? laugh.gif

Because she's a brain dead mutant worm?

Because 'socialism' is dead?

Because you're a sceptic?

Folk who hate politicians and children are not ALL bad Mr Edwards.

Anarchy is the only hope!
mortonjag 2008-03-31 07:14:13
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 31 2008, 07:07 AM) [snapback]428091[/snapback]
You might never be a merry old soul if you don't get your Old King Cole.



....and why were you UP so early this morning Mr Edwards?
mortonjag 2008-03-31 07:20:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 30 2008, 11:27 PM) [snapback]428037[/snapback]
FFS you are a complete moron.
It was going to happen in January "until JM resigned"?
JM resigned in the middle of February, you pillock. blink.gif
Why do we allow Internet access to people in psychiatric units I do not know.

...and thankfully you can do nothing to stop us! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 07:21:34 Will you be letting Shoogly into the secrets of your big sack?
mortonjag 2008-03-31 07:23:32 Being able to swear without fear of offending the sprogs of Holy Willies.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 07:26:50
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Mar 30 2008, 08:37 PM) [snapback]427969[/snapback]
Hopefully we will at least have it in our own hands if it goes to the last game. I hate the thought of having to go to the last game relying on others c***ing it up though if it really comes down to it and that is how we survive I will take it.

Will MJ's ticker take all the excitement of a final day showdown ? tongue.gif

Don't worry Gash-the Monkey is experienced in CPR and unlike Shoogly we have our own 'Heartstart' at matches.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 07:30:10
QUOTE(jim4ton @ Mar 31 2008, 12:18 AM) [snapback]428071[/snapback]
I thought Paartalu was ok as a defensive mid with an impressive long throw in. Will he win us games? Don't think so. Will he stop us getting beat? He will help - as he did on Saturday. An early opinion - I hope the boy proves to be more than I thought on first impressions.

He scored several goals at Gretna before Wadsworth took a dislike to him apparently.

Reminiscent of the big guy the Jags had on loan from the Huns a couple of seasons back. If he's utilised to effect he'll get us goals.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 07:34:35
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Mar 31 2008, 12:53 AM) [snapback]428073[/snapback]
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Yeah ok, what's the point in that? Rae has already hinted that the priority is to start upgrading the stadium to SPL standard for when we're back down in the second again. Money should not be wasted on a proper youth system, or providing for the future.

Why should Shoogly bother his aged arse with a youth set-up when he's already 77?

I think that is a perfectly fair question to ask of a man who is a self centred pachyderm.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 07:42:28



Scotland's richest man has urged political leaders to move swiftly to a vote on independence.

After a week of activity by both nationalists and parties arguing for more powers for Holyrood within the UK, property tycoon and philanthropist Sir Tom Hunter said there should be a "yes-no" choice so people can "invest" in whichever they choose.

While not saying which way he would vote, he wrote an article saying there is confusion, disillusionment and a lack of an informed debate, and that people are "fed up with the posturing, positioning and pontification".
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He ridiculed proposals by First Minister Alex Salmond to have a multi-option ballot paper, comparing it with voting in The X Factor.

His call was welcomed by First Minister Alex Salmond, who used it to step up his campaign for other parties to concede there should be a referendum on Scotland's constitutional future.

The SNP's preference is for a straightforward "independence or not" referendum. But, in order to win enough support at Holyrood for such a vote to take place, it has offered the three parties behind the new Scottish Parliament Commission, headed by Sir Kenneth Calman, an opportunity to put an option on the form of a clearly worked-out plan for more devolved powers to the parliament instead.

Labour leader Wendy Alexander also welcomed Sir Tom's comments, for "seeing through the absurdity of the multi-option referendum".

At Labour's Aviemore conference, Scotland Secretary Des Browne argued elections are the appropriate time for people to state their views on constitutional options, and parties supporting the union have always won decisively.

With Mr Salmond saying the case for a referendum is becoming "irresistible", the SNP is pursuing its case with a reminder from 1992 that Gordon Brown, when in opposition, called for a multi-option referendum to show the then Tory Government the level of support for constitutional change in Scotland. Ms Alexander was then research officer at party headquarters.

Speaking at the conference, Harriet Harman, deputy party leader at Westminster, admitted the party had worked more closely before Scottish devolution. "It means we have to work harder to make sure that we continue to work together," she said. "We have to look for new ways to work together."

At the Scottish Socialist Party conference this weekend, leader and former MSP Colin Fox joined the calls for an independence referendum.


When so called philanthropists start dictating in the political arena, questions must be asked.

True Cardinals merely attempt to blackmail MSPs with 'conscience'. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 08:50:41
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 31 2008, 08:35 AM) [snapback]428109[/snapback]
you were doing so well with the multiple quoting aswell. sad.giftongue.gif

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Correct my boy, but this is one of my rare 'annoy people' mornings. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 08:53:02
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Mar 31 2008, 08:02 AM) [snapback]428102[/snapback]
so long as when Rae departs he has "the Rae Stand" to carry on his legacy, I see no reason to suggest he'd be even semi-interested in a good youth setup.

We already have a shoogly stand Chris.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 08:55:34
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Mar 31 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]428106[/snapback]
I agree, pity it was only a small pocket of us that were actually singing tho!! wink.gif
Alot just sat silent as per usual. sad.gif

The singing was excellent, but everybody was vocal and clapping-at least from where we were sitting that's how it was.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 10:19:11
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Mar 31 2008, 10:00 AM) [snapback]428122[/snapback]
I personally think it's about time the media and whoever whoever left Tommy Sheridan alone to live his life - he is clearly being victimised. I've spoken with Tommy enough times to know that if he was doing what is alleged, he's certainly not stupid enough to get caught doing it.

Any new "evidence" that has been found has clearly been manufactured as part of the ongoing conspiracy against him.

I don't always agree with his political views, but one things for sure - he's some guy.

Chris-if he's being victimised, as you suggest, he might NOT realise the lengths to which others will go to expose any weaknesses.

Sheridan has dared to antagonise the establishment-that automatically makes him victim and cult hero simultaneously.

My personal take is that he's one of life's chancers, and an absolute charmer with it. No surprise that many see him as some kind of Messiah.

His luck's just run out.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 11:52:55
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Mar 31 2008, 11:41 AM) [snapback]428132[/snapback]
i miss being able to eat a pie without spilling brown sauce down yerself.

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mortonjag 2008-03-31 12:14:05
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Mar 31 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]428137[/snapback]
what? when the caterers had the old sauce it didnt run as bad the sauce that does now.

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Ah-I see -it's dribbly sauce you're complaining about-I was worried in case you'd developed early Parkinson's disease or something! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 12:16:38
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 31 2008, 12:12 PM) [snapback]428141[/snapback]
Of course, he's 21 points ahead of Chris Millar, and it's only 5 points for a MOM, with 4 games left.

The play-offs were not considered at the start of the season.

Most of us didn't imagine the current situation. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 12:19:44
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Mar 31 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]428138[/snapback]
You need four showers,one for each side of her! She's kinda cute though... blink.gif

Good partner for 44 tonner?
mortonjag 2008-03-31 13:35:14
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 31 2008, 12:49 PM) [snapback]428152[/snapback]
What a cheery outlook.

Ok doc, what causes skipped heartbeats? I know it's an easy one for you but I'd like to know.

Hunners of causes. Quite common in fit young adults and often of no significance.

Two good examples:

Kev Finlayson with a clear run in on goal.

Stu and Ryan within twenty yards of each other, when high ball comes into box.

Should be checked out of course! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 13:42:08
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Mar 31 2008, 01:20 PM) [snapback]428162[/snapback]
Don't think I could get her in the cab with me MJ!

She IS a big girl!

I think she should stick to mini skirts-don't you?
mortonjag 2008-03-31 13:43:50
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 31 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]428148[/snapback]
huh.gif Started taking your prozac again?

General nonsense for that pish.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 13:47:32
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Mar 31 2008, 01:09 PM) [snapback]428156[/snapback]
We can't think about the Gretna consequences, but I have been informed that the SPL (Shepards) and the SPL (Sheep) have been in discussions again aimed at removing Gretna from the Scottish League for breaching this, that and everything else they can think of. They will not be allowed to groundshare as has been mentioned somewhere else before and their ground will not be brought up to any decent standard any time soon.

I believe this is being done to prevent another Airdrie/Clydebank situation as the powers that be don't want a consortium buying their registration.

A non-league side have already been contacted (this is a definite) and sounded out as to how quickly they could be ready for the move up to the SFL. But a legal process may be launched which will prevent this.

The SPL have only bailed them out as they are terrified what impact this all has on future sponsorship's etc.

If none of these discussions deliver then I'm afraid we may well end up in the play-off, which I for one am dreading. But my opinion on current displays only goes on what my pals have told me, and they are a bit more optimistic, after this Saturdays game I can form my own opinion on our chances.

You are a cynical man.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 13:49:50
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 31 2008, 01:13 PM) [snapback]428158[/snapback]
..or he'll sign for Dundee as soon as the transfer window opens as per the normal course of events....

...and Shoogly will be bleating about giving him a desperately needed job, only to be snubbed.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 13:53:31
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 31 2008, 01:25 PM) [snapback]428164[/snapback]
is today will we sign anyone else on loan, or any free agents?

Just heard a rumour from an insider that Deuchar was not free to leave the NHS and could start work in Greenock 'very shortly'.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 13:58:54
QUOTE(ukTON @ Mar 31 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]428172[/snapback]
havin been in glasgow few weeks ago, one of my mates wanted to go see a team called Greenock Morton who his dad watched when he worked for IBM ten year ago I thot fuk that, havin then went to game enjoyed it and will be keeping eye on scores, hope the ton stay up!

nice wee ground, not quite the bridge though




GOOD years don't come along very often in Greenock. 1979, however, was a great one. It may have happened during the demise of the shipbuilding industry, a decline which ripped the heart out of the town, but it will long be remembered as the greatest year for the town's football club, Greenock Morton.

In that season, Andy Ritchie was the Scottish Football Writers' Player of the Year, and the club was etched firmly on to the Scottish football map.


Diehard fans may argue that 1968 was of equally great, if not more, importance. That was when Morton met Chelsea in the Fairs' Cities Cup, known today as the UEFA Cup. The 5-0 defeat at Stamford Bridge and 4-3 loss at Cappielow matter little to the fans of that time. They were there. That aside, the team of the late seventies - bossed by Benny Rooney - achieved cult status among the Greenock faithful, in particular Ritchie. It was a memorable period in the club's history, and, during that 1979-80 season, Morton sat proudly at the top of the Premier League for a number of weeks. Of the side who graced the blue and white hoops, or the orange change strip when the Old Firm visited, Ritchie, now chief scout with Celtic - the team he left to join Morton - is the most talked about, and he can be assured of a warm welcome when the Hoops arrive at Cappielow for tomorrow night's Tennents Scottish Cup quarter-final. He joined the club in 1976, when they were languishing at the bottom of the First Division, but in the five years that followed, Morton were a Premier League club and Ritchie was never out of the headlines. Visually, he was never considered a typical, athletic footballer. Frequently, he came in for stick about his waistline, was described as 'clever on his feet for a big man', and, at training, rumour has it, he ran at the back of the pack with a young goalkeeper who made him look quick. Nevertheless, Ritchie was, and still is, a hero at Cappielow. "I wasn't the best player at Morton then," he insists. "Jim Holmes was more talented. He played at Cappielow for 10 years and, while I got the publicity, it was Jim who should have played at a higher level. "I had great days there. I enjoyed them, and I think the Morton fans enjoyed them, too. We were all part-time, and nobody was earning a lot of money. The shipyards were still on the go, so a lot of the boys worked there, then trained at night. "It meant that the guys had to go to work the day after a game, so they didn't want to go not having given the likes of Celtic, Rangers and Aberdeen a good game. "Cappielow was like a fortress in those days and no side liked going there. The team were exciting to watch because they scored a lot of goals, and we were also getting big crowds." Despite his protests on whether or not he deserves to be remembered as the greatest Morton player of all time, a European Silver Boot adds weight to the status he has been afforded by the Cappielow support. Likewise, the fact he was a part-time footballer when he picked up both awards is further evidence of the high regard in which his talent was held. Much has changed in football terms since Ritchie and his team- mates split up. On the park, fortunes have fluctuated, their last worthwhile entry in the record books coming in season 1994/95, when they won promotion to the First Division. One thing which has remained constant, however, is Cappielow. Ritchie said: "I look at the place and I feel as if I've gone back 20 years, because it's not changed at all. Hopefully, the club and the council can get together, because I'd imagine the players, the staff and the fans would dearly like a new stadium." Andy Ritchie's skill takes him past Celtic's Andy Lynch


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mortonjag 2008-03-31 15:21:31
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 31 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]428177[/snapback]
I'll have a shifty at the admin panel / backend and see if 'hiding' can be done. I don't own the licence for the software at the moment though, so our options may be limited. Always open for donations of course....

I'll be looking for a cut then! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 15:22:44
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Mar 31 2008, 02:57 PM) [snapback]428191[/snapback]
No more I promise!

Especially as I keep messing them up!

What have you done? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 15:25:39
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Mar 31 2008, 02:32 PM) [snapback]428184[/snapback]
Gretna goalkeeper Greg Fleming is being chased by Motherwell, Morton and Oldham. (The Herald)

According to the BBC's rumour mill machine.

ScotinBelgie

Guess who's not getting him! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 15:27:19
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Mar 31 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]428178[/snapback]
Quoted chapter and verse from where?

Can't remember-it was for the Chelsea boy's information!

You didn't imagine I'd claim that mundane sporting journalese for my own!!! rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 15:30:09
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 31 2008, 03:25 PM) [snapback]428199[/snapback]
Morton 2 St Johnstone 2

(Allegedly Kieran scoring from a free kick)

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mortonjag 2008-03-31 15:33:04
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 31 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]428202[/snapback]
oldham laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-31 16:15:24
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Mar 31 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]428206[/snapback]
And who else? Or will he be shared? tongue.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Aye --we get him, but he plays all his games at Fir Park! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 20:10:56
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Mar 31 2008, 05:36 PM) [snapback]428225[/snapback]
no doubt he was holding out for a club higher up the league. If the rumours are true rolleyes.gif he was offered a grand a week blink.gif doubt many clubs would match that

Very true-we're hard to beat in the rumours league.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 20:14:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 31 2008, 07:43 PM) [snapback]428251[/snapback]
Gidday ThornTON,

Where and when did you see Craig play please ?

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mortonjag 2008-03-31 20:19:12
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Mar 31 2008, 07:16 PM) [snapback]428246[/snapback]
Yeh I think so and a guy with a pony tail, I nearly knocked him of his seat, poor lamb. A belated hello

Bleated?
mortonjag 2008-03-31 20:23:19
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 31 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]428244[/snapback]
Christmas day? wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-31 20:25:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 31 2008, 07:49 PM) [snapback]428256[/snapback]
If it takes 4 men 6 hours to dig a hole, how long would it take 6 men to dig half a hole ?

A haggis souffle.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 20:26:24
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 31 2008, 08:05 PM) [snapback]428266[/snapback]
Why is it when you're trying to find something you've lost, its always in the last place you look for it !? rolleyes.gif

....only if you find it!
mortonjag 2008-03-31 20:41:59 General nonsense-just checked and I've only contributed on 1/3 of today's threads.

The children seem to be hi-jacking with play station, wrestling, choons and films, jokes, personal messages, and unfunnies from u-tube.

What happened to original thought and intelligent discussion-oh and I forgot -there's always the standard-slag mortonjag thread to save the dog from a good clugging. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 20:44:59
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Mar 31 2008, 08:31 PM) [snapback]428287[/snapback]
If Innes has gone to the MLS (see above), then there is no way Morton could have matched that. Deuchar is reportedly on £9K a week with Real Salt Lake! sad.gif

Then the greedy c*nt could easily pay us back for his buckshee medical training. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 20:48:22
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 31 2008, 08:43 PM) [snapback]428290[/snapback]
Ok jag here is your lesson for the day.

For each post you want to quote click the quote button. It will turn red rather than blue. Do this to all the ones you want to quote and then click "add reply".

In the reply box you have simply put your replies under the quotes.

So from now on you don't need to post about 12 replies in a row!

...and here is yours smartarse-bend over...


Wallop-wallop-wallop-wallop-wallop-


Oh and up here in the real world, 24 hour shops actually DO stay open 24/7-well at least the moo slim ones.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 20:50:35
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 31 2008, 08:44 PM) [snapback]428291[/snapback]
How can Alexander promise socialism when she's never been a socialist? She and Douglas Alexander are perfect examples of the new political class, could be either Tories or Labour. How would you ever know?
At least Salmond has nailed his colours to the right-wing, homophobic and corporate mast. We know where he stands.

Naked six inches behind Soapy?
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:03:57
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 31 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]428298[/snapback]
So you do actually take note of how sad you appear on here then? wink.gif

I don't normally bother. I was just getting a bit pissed off with the unwarranted victimisation and lack of appreciation of my hugely valuable input, so I had a check.

Really you lot have a good F*CKING CHEEK-most of you appear to be a shower of mindless little morons, and the saddest thing of all is that some actually try to COMPETE with the Jag in matters of import.

When did he ever argue the toss over Ps3, wrastling, or the best ride on the telly-bar none?

No, little shrunken one-Mr Jag is far from sad-he has his Monkey-the Fing.....hold on please....................................and can still enjoy a good keech in peace. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:04:47
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 31 2008, 08:56 PM) [snapback]428302[/snapback]
Talk about creating one for yourself blink.gif

DOH tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:12:26
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 31 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]428306[/snapback]
The Jag is here
And he's PISSSSSSSSSEEEEED OOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Can see it in the Record soon "Retired Doctor Batters Monkey"

Don't be a silly Billy-the Monkey shares my opinions.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:17:37
QUOTE(SramTon @ Mar 31 2008, 09:04 PM) [snapback]428305[/snapback]
biggrin.gif Now that was a genuine witty remark.

I am under no illusion that you give a toss what I think of your posts but, for what it's worth, I do think you make some good, and on occasion amusing, points.

However, I really don't have the time or inclination to wade through the slurry to get to the gems.

You can't write 17,000 plus worthwhile posts in under 3 years. It's simply not possible.

Jose Morinho doing the football postings and Oscar Wilde doing the witticisms would struggle (have struggled in Oscar's case) to match that output between them. I know the board could have done without many of my 700-odd posting (probably including this one).

So, nothing personal amigo but less is often more and if the only way I can get less is by clicking a much sought after "hide" button then that's as much my perogative as it's yours to continue posting at your present levels.

Unfortunately, I'll miss out on (in my view) your good stuff but the gains outweigh the losses.

Your opinions and prerogative are yours and yours alone.

If I wasn't Mortonjag I'd hate the old c*nt too Beltrami. I think you've been very polite, and very patient. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:19:54
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 31 2008, 08:53 PM) [snapback]428296[/snapback]
And in Greenock the 24 hour shops close on Friday and Saturdays between about midnight and 4am smile.gif

And kindly stop walloping yourself on a public forum, there must be a male public toilet for that in "Glesca toon" somwhere wink.gif

unsure.gif Are you in denial?
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:22:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 31 2008, 09:14 PM) [snapback]428310[/snapback]
Work. Some of us still have to. tongue.gif

You find it an imposition? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:22:49
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 31 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]428312[/snapback]
Poor Fing then!!!! ohmy.gif

We both fear Fing of the Nail Gun.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:25:39
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 31 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]428300[/snapback]
Sounds more like delirium blink.gif

The big ginger one used to head home a fair few. I reckon Andy Ritchie could get him a dozen over the course of a season.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:30:03
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 31 2008, 09:23 PM) [snapback]428317[/snapback]
That attitude has got us to this stage, when does it change? Unless we start to plan for the future now we'll just go backwards.

If Shoogly wasn't skint, and didn't live in cloud cuckoo land, we could do both simultaneously.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:33:46
QUOTE(BluebirdTon @ Mar 31 2008, 09:29 PM) [snapback]428321[/snapback]
Looks like a good signing.

A few dodgy clearances but atleast,unlike some others in our squad,he attempts it ! I'll hand the blame to the weather conditions though.

Good at finding a pass and winning the ball in the air.Will hopefully dislodge that carthorse McGuffie from the team. wink.gif

McGuffie looked much better playing beside him, especially in the first half. I think Morton with PANTALOONS will stay up.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:34:59
QUOTE(alexp @ Mar 31 2008, 09:29 PM) [snapback]428320[/snapback]
well, it looks like im 2 for 2 when it comes to rumours about gretna players going to mls cool.gif

btw, duechar was subbed on in the 73rd minute of rsl's season opening 1-1 draw with chicago

Came on or taken off?
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:35:56
QUOTE(Tontaster @ Mar 31 2008, 09:29 PM) [snapback]428323[/snapback]
Why not start wake russell hasnt scored in ages and it is time that wake got a chance to actual play ninety instead of just being a sub his whole life.

Short memory!
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:40:00
QUOTE(leyTON @ Mar 31 2008, 09:37 PM) [snapback]428330[/snapback]
ah
i thought you were all, and by all i mean right sied of the cowshed next to the stairs at the back crew, were gourock high cats in 5th year
what school are you in?

Stavanger Special. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:42:28
QUOTE(SramTon @ Mar 31 2008, 09:40 PM) [snapback]428333[/snapback]
I can't argue with that smile.gif

With regard to spelling, my house got broken into on Wednesday and my laptop nicked. I'm "typing" all my posts on a Wii. One typo in that lot has got to be within tolerance!

Anyway, I'm only encouraging you to post another reply on this thread.

Go on, show us all that you can resist the urge smile.gif

Mye daddie izza wai phorrah nupher jobbie (sined Munx) xxx
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:44:32
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 31 2008, 09:40 PM) [snapback]428334[/snapback]
Do we know where Eck stands I wonder. What's the rationale behind the 3 option referendum? What happens if it's a 3 way split, won't that amount to a majority against independence? Is Eck hedging his bets, knowing that he'll be content as First Minister of a devolved parliament with extended powers? Whatever, I don't trust him. There should only be one question on the referendum paper: Self Determination Yes or No.

Bawheid is a professional gambler.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:48:34
QUOTE(Tontaster @ Mar 31 2008, 09:37 PM) [snapback]428331[/snapback]
Explain blink.gif

Wake got two or three starts as soon as he arrived-NO WAY has he been simply used as a sub-he's earned that place.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:50:32
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Mar 31 2008, 09:44 PM) [snapback]428337[/snapback]
Came on as a sub. Chicago scored in the 92nd minute

My kind of town Chicago is... laugh.gif

Get it up you Deuchar-ship jumper.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:53:17
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 31 2008, 09:47 PM) [snapback]428340[/snapback]
Feck you McArthur, for being another ageist. tongue.gif I said I'm fine with Cappielow for the moment. Right now we need success on the park. What's the point of building an SPL compliant stadium if you have little prospect of getting there. Build a successful team first, the stadium after.

Known in football parlance as the 'Mileson Model'.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:55:15
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 31 2008, 09:47 PM) [snapback]428338[/snapback]
Living with yous I'm not surprised he is attempting mass murder!!!

Oh dear-has he been talking to you?
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:57:53
QUOTE(Jackie @ Mar 31 2008, 09:49 PM) [snapback]428342[/snapback]
Only? laugh.gif

Edit - Out of interest MJ, how many posts have their been in the General Nonsense section today?

Indeed ONLY!!!

You see I'm repeatedly accused by the puerile hegemony of 'hi-jacking every thread'.


You seem typical of the problem in that you can't even count! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:04:16
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 31 2008, 09:57 PM) [snapback]428349[/snapback]
Another day, another attack on the SNP. rolleyes.gif

EH!!!!!


Look at his disclosure of personal details and donations Spurtle-Bawheid is interested in more than just the Holyrood cuddies. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:05:40
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 31 2008, 09:53 PM) [snapback]428345[/snapback]
Getting up early in the mornings, yes. Driving home at night, no. laugh.gif

Why did you move?
mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:07:15
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 31 2008, 10:01 PM) [snapback]428353[/snapback]
Do you trust Eck?

...or do you think he may be cheating on you? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:08:19
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 31 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]428359[/snapback]
To answer your question honestly, I do.

But I know where you are coming from. He has to deliver a referendum one way or another.
If he doesn't, the party could get a bit anxious that he has failed to deliver. If the result in a referendum was NO, he can say I gave you a referendum, what else could I do ?

But, I believe we will win a YES vote anyway rolleyes.gif

Can we now have the dishonest answer please? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:11:11
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 31 2008, 09:58 PM) [snapback]428350[/snapback]
Cappielow = Raydale? I don't think so. Cappielow could be made SPL compliant. And I said build a successful team, not bust the bank to buy one instantly.

I agree with you in principle DE, but the truth is, Shoogly IS skint in real terms.

With adequate funding and planning we could move both things forward in harmony. Somebody has to get it right sooner or later.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:11:41
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Mar 31 2008, 10:01 PM) [snapback]428354[/snapback]
Couldn't agree more, we are light years behind teams of a similar size. And guess what its not the fans fault !!!!

A succession of owners have let this club down badly.

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mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:14:35
QUOTE(Jackie @ Mar 31 2008, 10:09 PM) [snapback]428364[/snapback]
Spelling error. Woops. So, tell me your secrets, how do you find out how many posts have been made in this section of the forum today? Don't tell me to go away and count them all.



General nonsense-just checked and I've only contributed on 1/3 of today's threads.



Guess you can't read either! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:15:58
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 31 2008, 10:08 PM) [snapback]428363[/snapback]
Homosexual insinuation...?? blink.gif

...popularly described as fudge packing!
mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:17:19
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 31 2008, 10:01 PM) [snapback]428355[/snapback]
did he not start Iron's first game against St Johnstone?

Stop being argumentative.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:19:18
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 31 2008, 10:08 PM) [snapback]428362[/snapback]
I give you Greacen and Harding! I missed Saturday's game, first one for a long time but have seen all the rest and we are getting a lot tighter defensively which I think is largely down to much improved performances from mostly Greacen but also Harding. There fewer silly mistakes and better covering,

Now if only we could get someone to start scoring goals
!!

PANTALOONS will not let us down.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:20:29
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 31 2008, 10:17 PM) [snapback]428371[/snapback]
I'll take you're word for that wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:24:55
QUOTE(standman @ Mar 31 2008, 10:19 PM) [snapback]428374[/snapback]
Today's comment in the Tele about McGuffie was that he had one of his quieter games !!

All this guy's games are quiet.

For such a big guy I've yet to see him impose himself on a match.

If Jenkins is fit for saturday it leaves the manager with a headache as to who drops out.

Do you shift McGuffie to right back - supposedly a better position for his talents - at the expense of someone in the back four who kept a clean sheet ?

Or do you drop him in the hope then penny drops wih him that he needs to pull his finger out ?

Thoughts ?

The Tilly is talking sh*te. McGuffie was much improved, especially in the first half-our midfield deserve a lot of credit for Saturday's display-Queens hardly got a sniff of goal for 90 minutes-AS CONFIRMED by their own fans. Stu and Hardy had a fairly easy day dealing with speculative long balls.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:42:06
QUOTE(Jackie @ Mar 31 2008, 10:22 PM) [snapback]428378[/snapback]
Apparently neither can you, perhaps if I use your usual trick of highlighting everying in fuchsia. I asked how many posts have there been in the general nonsense section today. I can only figure this out once you tell me how many posts you have made.

I'm well aware of your apparently pointless question. I was talking about threads. If you can't count posts, so be it!
mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:43:29
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Mar 31 2008, 10:29 PM) [snapback]428388[/snapback]
Maybe if you ease off a little with the quoting and stuff then maybe people wouldnt get pissed off. Personally I dont mind, no1 annoys me very much. Brian wake the exception.

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mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:44:45
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Mar 31 2008, 10:33 PM) [snapback]428392[/snapback]
"Retired Doctor spanks his monkey" wink.gif

QUACK GOES APE
mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:50:27
QUOTE(standman @ Mar 31 2008, 10:31 PM) [snapback]428391[/snapback]
I can't go along with that. I kept a careful watch on what he was up to - his passing was woeful and his contribution is not great.

Don't get me wrong, guys like Scott mcLaughlin are to blame as well.

It's just that McGuffie should be showing why he was playing at Premier League level...I don't even think he's at First Division level at the moment.

And we're stuck with him next year as well.



He had a quieter second half. My brother and I both thought he was pretty effective in the first-not creative-but effective in cancelling them out.


QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Mar 31 2008, 10:39 PM) [snapback]428395[/snapback]
I thought he actually had a good first half - and I'm one of his biggest critics. However, in the second he reverted to what we're used to seeing from him: absolutely bugger all. He needs to stop hiding and get himself involved in games, as we really can't have any passengers at the moment, and that's exactly what McGuffie is.


Slight contradiction Dunning-he WAS pretty quiet in the second!

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 31 2008, 10:43 PM) [snapback]428399[/snapback]
I don't think you can touch the defence just now. At last they seem to be gelling together and keeping clean sheets.

Nice to see they're keeping the 'gel' all to themselves. Andy Bryan would approve.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:53:45
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Mar 31 2008, 10:44 PM) [snapback]428401[/snapback]
Ach well goodnight Doctor, be sure to keep the blood pressure down.



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QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Mar 31 2008, 10:46 PM) [snapback]428404[/snapback]
Right thats it, ignore list for you.

Nah seriously some of your posts have valid points, some dont. Mines are all general pish but everyone posts a pile of pish now and again which no1 agrees with. That is the power of an opinion.

My epic speech is now finished.


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QUOTE(Jackie @ Mar 31 2008, 10:49 PM) [snapback]428409[/snapback]
laugh.gif - © Mortonjag 07-08


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mortonjag 2008-03-31 23:39:57
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 31 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]428406[/snapback]
To come home. For all its shortcomings Inverclyde is, for me anyway, the best in the west. I've seen a few sights around the world, but the view from Tower Hill still does it for me. And the real people of Inverclyde (never mind the neds and the scumbags) are among the best I've ever known.

I'd quite like to retire 'doon the watter' somewhere too DE. I have business interests up here, and my partner also works in the South side, so too inconvenient at present..
mortonjag 2008-03-31 23:43:49
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 31 2008, 10:52 PM) [snapback]428414[/snapback]
Why are really warm, silent farts so much smellier than the starfish rippers?

I thought you lived up yer ain erse BH-surely you should know!
mortonjag 2008-03-31 23:48:37
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 31 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]428389[/snapback]
The issues of today stem back to our last truly successful team - the Benny Rooney/Andy Ritchie era in the late 70's early 80's. Our board at that time should have taken the decision to go full time and to start the refurb of Cappielow. OK we might have gotten into financial difficulty but we did anyway. At least if we had gone the Motherwell route we would have been an established SPL side with a decent stadium.

The board that really let us down was the one around that time. We had everything we needed to become one of the establishment except a board with any gumption.

Its not easy to see how we can catch up now without a substantial injection of money.

Or a later day Hal Stewart?

mortonjag 2008-03-31 23:51:30
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 31 2008, 10:44 PM) [snapback]428403[/snapback]
Where is you're vote going Doc ?

Same place as it's gone for the last twenty years or so I'd imagine, but I shall wait and see.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 23:53:15
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 31 2008, 11:19 PM) [snapback]428429[/snapback]
He does come across that way....... unsure.gif

FFS Spurtle you have no shame and no secrets.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 23:55:19
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 31 2008, 11:48 PM) [snapback]428441[/snapback]
Move the burger van down here MJ, I'm sure you'll do a roaring trade. biggrin.gif

Lionburgers wouldn't sell in Inverclyde!
mortonjag 2008-03-31 23:57:40
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 31 2008, 11:54 PM) [snapback]428448[/snapback]
So you are a unionist ? laugh.gif

What about the referendum ? How would you vote in that ?

NO-I have deliberately spoiled my paper, as I've lived in either safe Tory or Labour seats! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 23:59:18
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 31 2008, 11:54 PM) [snapback]428448[/snapback]
So you are a unionist ? laugh.gif

What about the referendum ? How would you vote in that ?

Depends.

Independence under a genuinely representative party-'lib/nat' if you like-YES.

Bawheid's lot are doughballs.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 00:04:46
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 31 2008, 11:59 PM) [snapback]428452[/snapback]
i agree with sramton (campagnolo all the way ya bass, and f*** shimano). mentaljag does have many good points and every now and again puts them across well. it's the volume of sheer pish which is ruining this board for me. i was amazed the other day when someone else outnumbered him for posts. i think that was the first time since he was released back into the community. unlike some other impressionables, whom mj loves to patronise for their youth and naivete, i did not miss him.

cue another post where he selectively quotes "mentaljag does have many good points" +love + shame+ sleepy smilies. predictable and not nearly as smart as he thinks he is. by a long, long way.

Manky's opinion is as ever wide of the mark.

Welcome to April---fool!

Mortonjag is extremely smart-WELL ahead of you and your ilk!

Oh yes-the smilies- smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 00:08:14
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 1 2008, 12:06 AM) [snapback]428463[/snapback]
If your not part of the solution your part of the problem wink.gif

One of the biggest myths of all time Spurtle!
mortonjag 2008-04-01 00:10:31
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 1 2008, 12:08 AM) [snapback]428467[/snapback]
haha! i'm on a downslope of the curve and am laughing at that. still think you're an asberger baby, but.

We'd make a lovely couple Narciccus-I have two tickets for the Policeman's Ball if you're interested!
mortonjag 2008-04-01 00:13:56
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 31 2008, 11:59 PM) [snapback]428453[/snapback]
It all depends on the pricing. Monkeyburgers might be a better seller.

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mortonjag 2008-04-01 00:16:32
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 1 2008, 12:14 AM) [snapback]428480[/snapback]
i'm not interested in balls, but you fill yer boots. i'm not judgin.

That'll be a first then!
mortonjag 2008-04-01 00:19:41
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 1 2008, 12:17 AM) [snapback]428488[/snapback]
how dare you. i'm the least judgemental c*** on here.

you're a bawbag by the way.

Scrotum to you sponge.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 00:22:31
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 1 2008, 12:20 AM) [snapback]428493[/snapback]
Watch now, he is very sensitive to homosexual jibes rolleyes.gif

Did you mean Jeeves?
mortonjag 2008-04-01 00:23:40
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 1 2008, 12:21 AM) [snapback]428494[/snapback]
okay.

hurry up edinbaws.

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mortonjag 2008-04-01 00:25:59
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 1 2008, 12:24 AM) [snapback]428500[/snapback]
how dare you. i'm currently wearing nothing at all, bar a pair of three-day old sport socks.

Six bukta bootees and bufty.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 00:27:48
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 1 2008, 12:25 AM) [snapback]428501[/snapback]
aye. you won that one, alright.

Off to bed with the Monkey! He hates you.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 06:45:39
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 31 2008, 11:27 PM) [snapback]428432[/snapback]
Agreed. The improved defence (and its last line) has been the most notable difference. The problem with scoring will remain, I fear, until we sign a real striker.

spoonsy is a striker
mortonjag 2008-04-01 06:47:30
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 31 2008, 11:52 PM) [snapback]428445[/snapback]
If we're going to sign anyone, we'll find out in tomorrow's telegraph. Don't expect the BBC or the official site to have anything up before then.

WE GOT Innes!


































































hee hee.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 06:51:15
QUOTE(Kekkoman @ Apr 1 2008, 03:35 AM) [snapback]428519[/snapback]
I agree here. Mcanespie has not been given a chance. Hopefully hel stay next year and impose himself on this team.

McAnespie has been given a chance IMO, and a chance he's also f*ckin' wasted IMO.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 06:54:30
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Apr 1 2008, 12:28 AM) [snapback]428509[/snapback]
Everyone who wnt to Eton enjoyed the odd prod at the Caramac tunnel.
Argh, that Flake advert with that f***ing annoying Americanised Devonshire bitch was just on. Cow.

You sure keep your options open!
mortonjag 2008-04-01 06:59:04
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 1 2008, 12:29 AM) [snapback]428510[/snapback]
and the ballad of reading hisownpishandlovingit.

Mortonjag has achieved fame without the need for celebrated Fudge Packery.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 07:03:05
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 1 2008, 12:27 AM) [snapback]428506[/snapback]
one pair of specialized socks and otherwise in the buff, matey. your language skills ain't that good.

Fishnet tights by any other name pervo.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 07:08:12
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 1 2008, 01:52 AM) [snapback]428515[/snapback]
I thought he was in Greenock ?

Not Egypt !

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Denial about his sewage canal Newt!


QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 1 2008, 01:59 AM) [snapback]428517[/snapback]
How High is a Chinaman ?

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Five foot flee.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 07:21:01

The Government should cap levels of immigration to Britain, a parliamentary inquiry concluded.

Peers, including two former Chancellors and several other Cabinet ministers, delivered a blow to the Home Office by concluding that record immigration had led to "little or no impact" on economic well-being.

Certain groups in Britain - the low-paid, some ethnic minorities and some young people looking for a foot on the job ladder - may have suffered because of competition from immigrants, the Lords' all-party Economic Affairs Committee said.


Ministers should set an "explicit target range" for immigration and set the rules to keep within that limit, the report said. It raised the prospect of cutting the number of partners and other family members allowed to settle in Britain because a relative is already here.

The peers rejected the Government's claim that immigration is needed to prevent labour shortages as "fundamentally flawed". They also warned that the much-trumpeted new points-based immigration system carried a "clear danger of inconsistencies and overlap".

"We are suggesting that the Government should set a target range for net immigration and then the rules should depend on the target range, rather than the numbers following from the rules as at present," committee member and leading economist Lord Layard said.

"You would have the scope to vary the scale of net immigration by varying the rules, by choosing how tight the rules should be."

Inquiry chairman Lord Wakeham said: "Looking to the future, if you have got that increase in numbers and you haven't got any economic benefit from it, you have got to ask yourself is this a wise thing to do? That is why we want the Government to look at it."

Lord Vallance of Tummel, committee chairman and a former CBI president, said the Government's economic arguments in favour of current immigration levels were "very shaky".

The Government's decision to use GDP as the main measure of immigration's economic contribution was "irrelevant and misleading", added the report. Instead, the yardstick should be income per head of population, or GDP per capita


Interesting, especially as the last paragraph gives the lie to 'the old hat' quoted by our usual laissez faire pro 'dumping' philanthropists.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 08:13:16
QUOTE(piehutt @ Apr 1 2008, 06:47 AM) [snapback]428525[/snapback]
Yes, we are now hard to beat which is key.

Previously we would end up losing a goal and have to chase the game, now we can stay in it and hopefully nick one ourselves.

If we keep it up... we're bound to edge one game, which will just about be enough assuming we get some more draws.

In saying that fancy another draw on Sat.

I fancy a victory Piehole, but it may well end up a draw! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 08:14:40
QUOTE(para @ Apr 1 2008, 07:55 AM) [snapback]428532[/snapback]
I understand that following the last post Mortonjag has now left the building and lets hope he doesnt comeback

date 01/04/08

Hello! I'm your new neighbour! laugh.gif tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 08:47:32
QUOTE(Greacenonmyass @ Apr 1 2008, 08:18 AM) [snapback]428537[/snapback]
Ignore List

mortonjag rolleyes.gif
newton
midton
princessTon
hardingshamstring

newt, midTONs Princess and the GG are all lovely people.

'Grease up my arse' is putative pond life--erm-no I exaggerate -a wannabe worm.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 08:50:33
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 1 2008, 08:18 AM) [snapback]428536[/snapback]
No - How High is a Chinaman.

So is How High, who's five foot flee.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 08:51:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 1 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]428538[/snapback]
Why does the animation on tampon television advertising use blue drops ?

Are they for bluebloods ?

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You are colour blind???!
mortonjag 2008-04-01 08:56:14 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Credit where due-humour (of sorts) is much appreciated in the Dead Sea Scrolls.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 09:27:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 1 2008, 08:59 AM) [snapback]428547[/snapback]
Was Roy G Biv colour blind ?

Indeed not Newt though his wife wore black Aussie tampons and a hula hula skirt!
mortonjag 2008-04-01 09:30:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 1 2008, 09:01 AM) [snapback]428549[/snapback]
inability to learn from previous unhappy experiences.
Dear Doctor,

is it true that severe cases may last for decades ???

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Indeed Newt, without even a ray of light at the end of the Fort Matilda tunnel..
mortonjag 2008-04-01 09:34:13
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Apr 1 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]428556[/snapback]
"I would give my right dick to be normal" blink.gif

Left dicked is abnormal-left dicked condoms are very expensive.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 09:36:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 1 2008, 09:07 AM) [snapback]428551[/snapback]
THE Scottish Premier League has called an emergency board meeting for this morning amid genuine fears that Gretna will close down today.

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Despite having made 22 players and several members of the backroom staff redundant last week, the club is continuing to accrue losses, and it is thought that administrator David Elliot of Wilson Field, the Sheffield-based insolvency practitioner, now believes time has run out.

The Scotsman understands he has set a 12pm deadline for the SPL to support an immediate takeover deal with an unnamed interested party, but last night even that last-gasp proposal appeared to be on the brink of collapse.
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/sport/SPL-...alks.3932587.jp

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mortonjag 2008-04-01 09:38:42 Once upon a time there was a village football team-not a big team, but a happy little team............... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 09:40:15
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 1 2008, 09:37 AM) [snapback]428563[/snapback]
laugh.gif you have me mixed up with someone else.

Not at all-you ARE a lovely person-vaseline piles is NOT!
mortonjag 2008-04-01 09:41:32
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Apr 1 2008, 09:39 AM) [snapback]428565[/snapback]
if this is an april fool its kinda meen

Especially as it's also the Daily Llama's 98th birthday.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 09:46:55
QUOTE(princessTON @ Apr 1 2008, 09:43 AM) [snapback]428568[/snapback]
Who the f*** are you, to put me on ignore? mad.gif

Careful Princess it'll be taking pictures of you at the Dundee game and posting them here-it is the incarnation of weaselry.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 09:50:07
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Apr 1 2008, 09:02 AM) [snapback]428550[/snapback]
Well, I really am going in for a knee op on Friday and can't do the Tannoy, that much is true.

So ye never know...

My knee is broken
My knee is broken
Sorrow, Sorrow, Sorrow, Sorrow...

If it's under a general anaesthetic, tattoo HERE on the appropriate patella.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 09:51:12
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Apr 1 2008, 08:46 AM) [snapback]428541[/snapback]
It appears i'm quicker than the BBC. rolleyes.gif

Spurtle will be impressed!
mortonjag 2008-04-01 10:15:05
QUOTE(princessTON @ Apr 1 2008, 10:06 AM) [snapback]428582[/snapback]
Your moobs are quite big now you come to mention it. tongue.gif

Udders please!
mortonjag 2008-04-01 10:17:27
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Apr 1 2008, 10:03 AM) [snapback]428578[/snapback]
I've seen it and believe me there's no doubt which knee is to be operated on.

It's the second one on his right leg...

What a wimp-he's taking the day off for treatment of Housemaid's knee! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 10:18:51
QUOTE(Edinton @ Apr 1 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]428591[/snapback]
Eh? blink.gif

HEE HEE he's seen your truncheon.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 10:19:52
QUOTE(Bunter @ Apr 1 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]428592[/snapback]
Awrite Troops, am Bunter, am a reel Greenock Punter.
Cheers troopz!

Sure yer no Billy the real Gourock goat? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 10:48:41
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Apr 1 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]428601[/snapback]
It's actually for the removal of a ganglian type cyst on the outside of the knee, slightly larger than a golf ball.

Also having an arthroscopy carried out to get to the 'root' of the problem.

I'm thinking of a couple of weeks off work Doc, what d'you reckon??? wink.gif

Ah'm yer man! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 10:50:38
QUOTE(Bunter @ Apr 1 2008, 10:21 AM) [snapback]428595[/snapback]
Naw am bunter ya broke fence

OK BIlly-ya fat bassa!
mortonjag 2008-04-01 10:55:11
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Apr 1 2008, 10:47 AM) [snapback]428605[/snapback]
That's great news. What service is being cut to pay for it?

No-you misunderstand-it's a CUNNING ploy. By making free prescriptions look LESS of a 'steal', demand will drop.

Wee Nickerless knows what she's doing! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 10:57:55
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Apr 1 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]428607[/snapback]

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Bawheid could never pull one like that! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 11:02:13
QUOTE(BlueTube @ Apr 1 2008, 10:47 AM) [snapback]428604[/snapback]
How do you put multiple quotes on your post?

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Scan down the thread, clicking 'quote' each time you read something you want to reply to.

Then at the very bottom click on 'add reply'.

All your quotes will be displayed in tabular form.

It's easy-I've been doing it for years!
mortonjag 2008-04-01 12:34:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 1 2008, 11:49 AM) [snapback]428639[/snapback]
None that I know of....

I remember the days when Labour were in favour of a free NHS for all. Sadly those days are gone for the self proclaimed socialists.



QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 1 2008, 11:50 AM) [snapback]428640[/snapback]
Another day, another attack on the SNP.

Sadly those days are gone for the deluded young woman who's promised a Scottish health Service which will meet demand, Spurtle.

Spend today!!! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 12:38:18
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 1 2008, 11:03 AM) [snapback]428619[/snapback]
Mr Salmonds head does not resemble a ball at all ! tongue.gif

It most certainly resembles a ball-I wasn't talking about a testicle, which is different.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 12:40:05
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Apr 1 2008, 12:25 PM) [snapback]428645[/snapback]
That's a bit unfair. What about all the weegie and Edinburgh lawyers with second homes in rural areas making the market unaccessable for locals. You can't blame one proportion, probably the smaller proportion, for what is a terrible problem. English rural communities have exactly the same problem.

Fifteen minutes Spurtle-you're losing your touch!
mortonjag 2008-04-01 12:42:42
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 1 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]428631[/snapback]
The champagne is on Ice, 30 mins and counting. laugh.gif

More ice? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 15:05:32
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 1 2008, 02:31 PM) [snapback]428688[/snapback]
Iwasnt for second suggesting he looked like the last turkey in the shop! His head is not a planatoid nor sphere like ! tongue.gif

It is distinctly ball shaped-don't try to tell me we couldn't have a good kick about with it-I never stated, implied.or suggested that it is a perfect sphere. The original footballs were just pigs' bladders wrapped in cows' hide!

Talking of pigs and cows-where were we-----------oh aye the SNP!
mortonjag 2008-04-01 15:07:46
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Apr 1 2008, 02:50 PM) [snapback]428696[/snapback]
MJ was on my ignore list for a while as was rtb.
I have however grown to love MJ look forward to his daily maniacal rants!

Mr Blue-MJ's psychiatrist! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 15:09:57
QUOTE(suda @ Apr 1 2008, 01:33 PM) [snapback]428668[/snapback]
spoonsy can strike a ball but he cant lead the line, can't score with his back to goal and doesn't have the speed to be a goal poacher. How many goals has he scored since moving up front compared to when he was playing further back?

Sponsy was ,is ,and always will be a striker.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 15:12:56
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Apr 1 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]428702[/snapback]
That was for the benefit of a certain employee (or ex as the case may be) of the media establishment who once said all my 'sources' where a pile of pish AFTER I had beat his paper to a certain story. rolleyes.gif

I also know what team has been approached to replace them if this goes ahead, but I would have to kill you if i made that information public knowledge. tongue.gif

Silly Billy from the Tilly? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 15:16:26
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 1 2008, 02:56 PM) [snapback]428699[/snapback]
That's the key question, Mr Blue. In mid-November, Brooks was intending to go ahead with the ecostadium. I know that for a fact because I attended a meeting at Holyrood in connection with the project (not an attempt to get funding from the Government BTW, just to try to get some indirect assistance). Thereafter it went very quiet until the rumours of adminstration started circulating.

I have never heard how Rowan Alexander's tribunal went, but as he is claiming £900,000 I suspect he must have won. My theory is that Mileson doesn't want to fund Gretna because that would mean giving money to Alexander. I don't know why the pair of them fell out, but I have a feeling the rest of us victims of this swindle are just a form of collateral damage.

Hmm-that sort of acrimonious behaviour is reminiscent of a lovers' tiff. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 15:22:56
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Apr 1 2008, 03:15 PM) [snapback]428711[/snapback]
I have been outed! unsure.gif

Hey Doc- I've run out of the blue pills-those special ones you get made for me. It's only been two days, but I'm already hearing the voices telling me to make scrambled egg with somebody's brains. It's getting scary and I'm sure they'll be coming to get me soon. Fing is at the ready with the nail gun and Munx is on high alert.

Any advice?
mortonjag 2008-04-01 21:19:15
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 31 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]428385[/snapback]
Mr Rae will get a chance to see my millions! especially if the drink is flowing

I'll be celebrating the official opening of one's bathroom!!

Lang may yer bum wink.gif reek!
mortonjag 2008-04-01 21:27:42
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Apr 1 2008, 07:26 PM) [snapback]428812[/snapback]
Dunno Ronnie, might let him bum me for £24m... ohmy.gif laugh.gif

Oh well, if your wee op goes amiss, he'll still know how to handle you.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 21:31:07
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 1 2008, 03:20 PM) [snapback]428717[/snapback]
Mythspelling in this case! laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-01 21:36:50
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Apr 1 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]428723[/snapback]
Tell them to f*** off, I'm on 2 weeks annual leave wink.gif



OK Doc! Have you packed your Shipman's meat paste sannies?


QUOTE(SramTon @ Apr 1 2008, 08:08 PM) [snapback]428824[/snapback]
biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

I'd like to be able to say I intentionally tee'd that one up.

But I have to give you full credit instead.

t wasn't THAT funny! dry.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 21:41:54
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 1 2008, 09:23 PM) [snapback]428850[/snapback]
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Not even near it mate, not even near it.

Rich-coming from the tax exile with three houses and high heels.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 21:44:11
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Apr 1 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]428794[/snapback]
Aye, i'm sure the House of Lords would have had a non-biased view when reviewing immigration policy. blink.gif

Don't be naive-this is the twenty first century-those guys ain't Lord Snooty!
mortonjag 2008-04-01 21:46:33
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 1 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]428842[/snapback]
could we not cleanse the indigenous non-professionals while we're at it?

Nothing wrong with cleanliness Trumpet-it's next best to Godliness. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 21:48:07 Welcome back Bawheid-please don't be upset-I've been using your name to describe our First Minister.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 21:49:34
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 1 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]428860[/snapback]
Gidday ThornTON,

Where and when did you see Craig play please ?

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mortonjag 2008-04-01 21:52:06
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 1 2008, 09:40 PM) [snapback]428866[/snapback]
ahem, us and alloa rolleyes.gif

Ahem's not a football team Trumpet --it's a turnip.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 22:10:04
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 1 2008, 09:58 PM) [snapback]428881[/snapback]
Independence offers a new beginning, our best chance of rebuilding a worthwhile society that may recover from the devestation left by Blair and Thatcher. Cheer up TAFKAC, we're still a safe distance away from the gate that says 'Abandon all hope, all Ye who enter here'. There's time enough yet to fix things.

'Mon the Lib/Nats!
mortonjag 2008-04-01 22:15:24
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 1 2008, 10:04 PM) [snapback]428887[/snapback]
so, just cleanse the indigenous non-professional religious nutters then?

There's no need to be silly Trumpet-just stem the flow of baggage,and encourage GENUINELY useful immigration.


Religious nutters-tautology. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 22:20:29
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 1 2008, 10:18 PM) [snapback]428904[/snapback]
Yes we did and it worked very well IMO.

It was:

Robinson

MacGregor - Greacen - Harding - McLauglin

Finlayson - Millar - Paartalu - McGuffie (apparently) - McAlister

Weatherson

When was McGuffie subbed?
mortonjag 2008-04-01 22:23:39
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 1 2008, 10:17 PM) [snapback]428902[/snapback]
are you sure? tongue.gif

i can remember him starting up front with Weatherson in Iron's first game.

back me up someone, or at least shoot me down in flames laugh.gif

on 1 St Johnstone 2
(H.T. 1 - 2)

MORTON: Robinson, Smith (subbed MacGregor 69 mins), McLaughlin, Harding, Greacen, McGuffie (subbed Stevenson 76 mins), Finlayson, Jenkins, Wetherson (goal 15 mins), Wake (subbed Russell 54 mins), McAlister Subs: MacGregor, Russell, McAnespie, Stevenson, McGurn

ST JOHNSTONE: Main, Irvine, Stanic, McManus, Rutkiewicz (subbed James 67 mins), Craig, Quinn (subbed Moon 85 mins), MacDonald (subbed McBreen 69 mins), Jackson, Milne (goal 29 mins, 39 mins), Sheerin Subs: James, McBreen, Cuthbert, Moon, Weatherston

Referee: John McKendrick

Asst Refs: Iain Craig & John McInally tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 22:25:34
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Apr 1 2008, 10:17 PM) [snapback]428901[/snapback]
Na, he's not been good but he's had the occasional half decent game, which is more than he had under McInally, so you couldn't say he's got worse.

I think he just did! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 22:27:48
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Apr 1 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]428908[/snapback]
Just been busy the past year having moved into a now hoose which required total renovation so just the gergan tae dae then Bobs yer uncle ah'll be back oan regular huh.gif dry.gif mellow.gif blink.gif wink.gif sad.gif ohmy.gif

Is it big?
mortonjag 2008-04-02 06:56:50 Sturgeon: Prescription charges a tax on ill health


Prescription charges were branded a "tax on ill health" by the Health Secretary
yesterday as costs were cut by 25% in the first step towards making them free in Scotland.

The charges, first introduced in 1952, will drop from £6.85 to £5 as part of their phased abolition.

Charges were frozen in Northern Ireland yesterday - but rose to £7.10 in England. Wales axed them last year.

The move in Scotland will also mean that people who suffer chronic or long-term conditions and cancer will receive an immediate cut of more than half in the cost of prescription pre-payment certificates (PPC). The cost goes from £98.70 to £48 for 12 months and from £35.85 to £17 for four months.
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Nicola Sturgeon, joined by Public Health Minister Shona Robison on a trip to a community pharmacy in Glasgow, said: "The National Health Service is based on the principle that health services should be free at the point of use, no matter what the patient's income is. We believe that prescription charges are a tax on ill health and a barrier to good health for too many people."

Estimates suggest nearly two-thirds (63%) of paid-for prescriptions are for cancer and long-term conditions.

"Many people who are not exempt from charges cannot afford the right medication," Ms Robison said.

Shadow Health Secretary Mary Scanlon said that while the Scottish Conservatives had previously supported extending the list of conditions exempt from charges and was "sympathetic" to the PPC cut, there were "many unanswered questions".

"We do have an issue with supporting free prescriptions for people who can afford to pay," she said. "There are many competing priorities for resources in the NHS and we would question the giving of free prescriptions to all."

SSP national convener Colin Fox congratulated the Scottish Government for "making a start on implementing the SSP's policy".

Lorraine Dallas, assistant director of services at Breast Cancer Care Scotland, called the reduction "a step in the right direction", but added: "Patients will still be forced to wait three years before the payment is removed following the SNP's earlier dilution of its promise to immediately abolish charges for people with cancer."

These sentiments were echoed by Eileen Hogg, in remission from breast cancer, who said: "While this is a step in the right direction, I do feel it is a bit of an injustice to people with chronic illness to still currently have to pay for prescriptions."




Another day-another attack on a woman who is rapidly becoming an embarrassment to the SNP.

NO shame, NO morality, NO honesty, NO decency-in short, a politician.


Prescription charges in the main are NOT and never were a tax on ill health. The vast, vast majority of everyday prescriptions are for short term conditions which would have resolved spontaneously in any case.

The really needy have always been treated shabbily in the prescription stakes-those who have chronic and terminal illness will get little comfort from what is just another piece of plastic spin by Bawheid's ugly wee sister.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 07:08:20
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 1 2008, 11:17 PM) [snapback]428928[/snapback]
Mortonjag, please piss off, cobber.

I am asking ThornTON a meaningful question.

Perhaps Stan Webster is a shonk ? ? ?

I respect ThornTON's opinion.

Newt-I'm laughing because he's avoiding the issue. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


'shonk' was not found in the Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary


Stan Webster-the man who coached Scott McDonald a 'SHONK' ---a childlike chancer if my interpretation of Aussie slang is correct?


Then Sir may I give you


SHOOGLESHONK
mortonjag 2008-04-02 07:10:09
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 1 2008, 11:25 PM) [snapback]428930[/snapback]
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don't be daft - that's Alibi looking for Mileson

Has he finally decided on the haircut?
mortonjag 2008-04-02 07:12:17
QUOTE(Tontaster @ Apr 1 2008, 11:41 PM) [snapback]428936[/snapback]
ROBINSON

MCGREGOR GREACEN HARDING
FINLAYSON PAARTALU JENKINS MCALISTER

MILLAR

RUSSELL WEATHERSON

Subs: MCGURN
MCALUGHLIN
MCGUFFIE
WAKE
KEENAN

MORTON 2- 0 DUNDEE

The Defense is playing well So that why i have said they will not score but it will be a big task against Dundee

Hopefully If we get a bit of luck in front of goal or one of the strikers has a good day We can over come the odds and beat the Dundee weavers

COM ON YE TON biggrin.gif

Dundee was also famous for JAM!
mortonjag 2008-04-02 07:14:15
QUOTE(Tontaster @ Apr 1 2008, 11:50 PM) [snapback]428939[/snapback]
Not according to davie irons in the telegraph he says "We have the pace and guile in midfield to create chances. Without any disrespect to the boys up top, we don’t have an out-and-out striker.†unsure.gif

Oh well, if LEAFY'S not 'an out and out striker' it looks like DI is going down the same road as JM! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-02 07:22:29
QUOTE(SPL AND WE @ Apr 2 2008, 01:31 AM) [snapback]428948[/snapback]
i thought ST MIRREN were meant to be relegated while you SOAP DODGERS were going to point and laugh when you passed us on the way by unsure.gif

mmmmmmmmmmmmm .......................... it's not quite worked out that way lads,has it?

Alan Russell to score the winner in the play offs. laugh.gif

There have only ever been eleven teams in the SPL this season-can't see that you lot have much to gloat about-FFS you ARE bloody ambitious- a brand new Lego stadium courtesy of Bendy Wendy benefactress of Skunkdom,--- and it holds less than SCAPA!

Furthermore Gretna are for the offski very soon, and you inbred needle swapping cretins will be propping up the league.

Morton will beat Dundee on Saturday-the turning point is passed. The mighty TON are into top gear and will soon roar past you poor pathetic loser c*nts. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-02 07:29:45
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 2 2008, 02:33 AM) [snapback]428951[/snapback]
Children find severed head on UK beach

Wednesday Apr 2 08:52 AEDT

Two schoolgirls playing on a Scottish beach found a woman's severed head, police said on Tuesday.

The girls found the head wrapped in a plastic bag on a beach outside Arbroath, about 90kms south of Aberdeen. A hand and other body parts were found later.

"They were upset by the discovery and their parents contacted the police," said Detective Chief Inspector Graham McMillan of Tayside Police.

Part of the beach remains cordoned off, as 40 officers comb the area for evidence.

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The headlines never fail to amuse me.

Why is it not

' police hunt woman's severed body'


and for that matter, why is it not just


'a woman's head'.

How-do they know it was 'severed'? There is more than one way of removing a human head.

Smiffy was extremely good at it, if you re-call.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 07:34:24
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 1 2008, 11:40 PM) [snapback]428935[/snapback]
Tautology or oxymoron?

Neither DE-conceptual.

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 1 2008, 11:46 PM) [snapback]428938[/snapback]
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What are you blinking at Spurtle-I'd love an Independent Scotland, run by real people with a liberal and inclusive approach.

That will never happen, but we may hopefully still achieve something light years ahead of the present embarrassment.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 07:44:09
QUOTE(dmc @ Apr 2 2008, 12:01 AM) [snapback]428940[/snapback]
I don't have a car at the minute but the guy next door seems to think it's a green light to park over my drive (usually half way on the pavement)!!

Didn't used to mind but the p***k seems to think it is now his parking space, and tonight is gonna be the final straw as it's bin night and he's done his usual!! (can't get my bin down properly without blocking the pavement, so anyone passing will think it's me blocking everything up)

To cut a long story short, I've put my bin out, rammed his 07 plate motor (as my drive is on a hill, which was kinda slippery tonight wink.gif ) and accidentally slightly scraped up the side a little!!

Am I in the wrong ?? unsure.gif

Yes-unfortunately two wrongs don't make a right dmc.

My ex-wife has MS and has been confined to a wheelchair for many years, but she still has the use of her car and a disabled bay outside her flat.

A few years back she went off on a much needed holiday, and my son was popping in daily to feed the cats, and keep an eye on the place-he often stayed overnight, but the young woman next door had started parking her car in the disabled bay, forcing him to park quite a distance away. He spoke politely to her, I believe, two or three times, and she just laughed at him-'I know your mother's away'-I'm doing nothing wrong'. The Police said they couldn't do anything to help.

One dark morning the young lady came down for work, only to find her lovely little Clio bereft of headlights.

She NEVER parked there again, and no questions were asked. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-02 08:49:38
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 2 2008, 08:12 AM) [snapback]428966[/snapback]
http://www.dbs.id.au/blog/law/shonky.html
Over the years the meaning has widened.

The first edition of the Macquarie Dictionary (1981) defined the adjective “shonky†as something or someone of dubious integrity or honesty.

The Dictionary of Australian Colloquialisms, Wilkes (2nd Edn, 1985), defined the adjective “shonky†as deceptive, unreliable, unsound; it gave as illustrations its use in Australian newspapers in 1978 describing the activities of the disgraced former US President, Richard (“Tricky Dickyâ€) Nixon, and in 1981 in relation to dealers in real estate.

The Australian National Dictionary, published by the Oxford University Press in 1988, defined the adjective “shonky†as unreliable, unsound, dishonest or out of sorts.

The Macquarie Dictionary of New Words (1990) defined the noun “shonk†as a dishonest person.

The Dinkum Dictionary, Johansen (Revised Edn, 1991), defined the adjective “shonky†as underhand, illegal, illicit, crooked.

The current (2005) edition of the Macquarie Dictionary defines the noun “shonk†as a person of dubious integrity or honesty, a dishonest person.

It is safe, therefore, to assume that the allegation made by Mr McDonald against the plaintiff could well have been understood in 1990 as one of dishonesty. …
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Shoogleshonk seems just about right then!
mortonjag 2008-04-02 08:56:37
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 2 2008, 08:35 AM) [snapback]428967[/snapback]
is that the pilot scheme at terminal 5?

you didn't strike me as particularly religious biggrin.gif

I know EXACTLY what I'd do if I could get off with it, but I wouldn't, and it would just upset people, and I'd be called a racist, and arrogant, and other things offensive to a gentle old soul, so I won't; though I'd still toast all religious fanatics gently over a big barbecue before feeding them to the worlds' starving.



mortonjag 2008-04-02 08:58:42
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 2 2008, 08:40 AM) [snapback]428969[/snapback]
MJ please solve a puzzle for me , you keep referring to Nickerlass sturgeon, is this a fantasy of yours???? tongue.gif

It's actually Nickerless Surgeon-far from being a fantasy, it brings back fond memories of youthful fun!
mortonjag 2008-04-02 09:02:03
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 2 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]428974[/snapback]
Definitely not, you have been far to patient with him, you should have damaged the car long ago.

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Damian's law!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-02 09:10:26
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 2 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]428979[/snapback]
I didn't mention slashing it's tyres or even denting it with his head now did I? tongue.gif

True-

and in my professional experience arsehole neighbours are, by definition, C*NTS.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 10:54:12
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 2 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]428993[/snapback]
don't hold back, mortonjag.

thank goodness you went to school there.

Otherwise you may have been rather offensive to our midden mate.

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One cannot offend a skunk-they are beneath offence.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 10:59:53
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Apr 2 2008, 10:19 AM) [snapback]428995[/snapback]
whats the main club names in glasgow?

Queens Park
Rangers
Celtic
Partick Thistle

is there anymore?

not looking for youth or amateur only professional teams.

Hunners of Junior professional teams, starting with Pollok FC in my backyard.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 11:02:12
QUOTE(BlueTube @ Apr 2 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]428999[/snapback]
Although they play in Cumbernauld now, Clyde are still considered a Glasgow team. I believe there is still a supporters club in Rutherglen near to the old Shawfield Ground.

Interesting point-although Cumbernauld is actually part of Glasgow anyway-well at least by post code, so Clydebank would still officially have been a Glasgow club were it still alive.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 11:16:48
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 2 2008, 09:43 AM) [snapback]428987[/snapback]
It's not a case of "London giving the Scottish Government money". We pay taxes and they hand back some pocket money. They conceal as far as possible the amount of money raised in Scotland from taxes (and I'm not referring solely to the massive revenues from oil) and attempt to give the impression that we are heavily subsidised and that we are too poor/stupid to run our own country.

I have never hears a sensible explanantion as to why if we removed our MPS from Westminster, the economy of Scotland would suddenly collapse. We would continue to work as before, produce as before,and if anything productivity would go up due to the boost in self esteem and the fact that our econimic parameters could be tailored to suit our own needs - interest rates for example which are set to suit SE England, and where we would actually do better under the Eurozone rates let alone setting our own rates.

You don't live here, so maybe you have failed to experience the sea change in attitudes in Scotland - there is without doubt a new self confidence emerging and that is largely, indeed almost solely, due to the election of a government that acts for Scotland and speaks up for Scotland. Many may not like some of the personalities involved, and some may disagree with some of the policies, but I think a huge majority would agree that it's a lot better than what it's been like for the last 50 years and the last 8 in particular.

Possibly-possibly not.


Labour's stranglehold of the Scottish electorate was worrying. I'm glad it's over, but ask myself what kind of mentality allowed it to persist for so long.

As a Nation, we've never found 'Tory' an acceptable vote, yet not ALL conservative policies are bad-nor for that matter are all 'socialist' ideas.

Middle ground-the lib/dems-lots of good ideas-always too wishy washy and HONEST to gain power IMO.

So we've got this lot-Bawheid's Bairns-nappy rash MSPs who are indeed driving by the seat of their pants. Better than the last lot by quite a bit, I'd say, but still 'heady' and unrealistic.

Bawheid is, IMO, a clever politician, but a very poor First Minister.

mortonjag 2008-04-02 11:19:56
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Apr 2 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]429005[/snapback]
A mate of a mate does that and reckons he's raking it in. Would this be true or pub bulls***?

It's all about conning old ladies into signing direct debits BH.

I guess if you're a good 'con man' you could do OK!

mortonjag 2008-04-02 11:30:43
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 2 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]429007[/snapback]
That's pish MJ. A disabled parking bay is solely for the use of the person with the disability, not for their friends and relatives. Your son had no more right to use the parking bay than your neighbour had (assuming he had no disabilities of course).

Don't try to tell me about rules and regulations from your high chair in Brussels short arse!

Anybody can use a dedicated disabled bay provided he or she is displaying the relevant badge and is 'assisting' the disabled person.

My son only ever used the bay for that explicit reason. My wife left the badge for that explicit purpose.

In any case, that is totally irrelevant to the fact that that young woman's behaviour was provocative, out of order, and dealt with appropriately-just like yours.

Now F*CK OFF! sleep.gif

mortonjag 2008-04-02 11:35:20
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Apr 2 2008, 09:12 AM) [snapback]428981[/snapback]
Was wondering last night while attempting to sleep.

If local fans supported their local team wouldn't scottish football be much more equal? The OF takes alot of fans from their local teams (guilty myself until I went to morton games). The OF have way to much spending power, i.e scott brown 4.5million, Cuellar 2.5-3.0 million. If everyone in Inverclyde that follows football supported Morton then the spending power available to the club would become higher therefore duff signings would be cut out. Would be good for football as a whole in scotland I would say.

Anyone else think this?

Greater Glasgow has a population of one million, and the other cities account for a large proportion of the remaining population.

I understand where you're coming from, but I'd suggest that pro rata it probably evens out.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 11:39:27
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 2 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]429023[/snapback]
I hardly think that feeding the cats would reasonably be considered as 'assisting' a disabled person. laugh.gif

The fact is your son was just as wrong as your neighbour was in using the disabled parking bay.

So you're wrong and I'm right - live with it. tongue.gif

If the cats had died, she would have perished of grief. Stuck in the house alone for most of the time with hugely restricted mobility, they are an enormous comfort to her.

The fact is that your are a provocative and evil dwarf with a grudge against normal disabled people and domestic animals.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 11:41:56
QUOTE(forza ton @ Apr 2 2008, 11:39 AM) [snapback]429028[/snapback]
greater glasgow has a population of 1,750,500

wrong again mortonjag cool.gif

When did you finish counting.

Seriously-where are your sources-are you telling me that I was once responsible for nearly a million patients at one time? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-02 11:46:36
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 2 2008, 11:31 AM) [snapback]429022[/snapback]
Not true. In the 1950s the Tories were the most popular party in Scotland in terms of votes cast in General Elections.

I'm talking from experience and study of our culture Grumpy-those figures prove nothing.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 13:50:10
QUOTE(johnston @ Apr 2 2008, 12:00 PM) [snapback]429037[/snapback]
Above should read 'I have been responsible for trying the patience of about one million people over my lifetime'. rolleyes.gif



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I am deeply hurt.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 13:56:25
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 2 2008, 11:53 AM) [snapback]429034[/snapback]
There figures prove that in the 1950s Scots did find voting Tory 'acceptable', which in turn proves that you were talking pish. Again.

Listen Dopey, you were NOT even alive in the 1950's. I WAS.

The Tories were a greater power in Scotland then, than now, but they NEVER EVER had anything like the majority of the popular vote. With PR, even in the 50's they'd have been f*cked.

Now any more of your impertinence and you'll be getting a buckshee PR.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 13:57:51
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 1 2008, 10:12 PM) [snapback]428897[/snapback]
Newton's threads often get ignored.

Newton is misunderstood.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 14:02:23
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 2 2008, 01:15 PM) [snapback]429063[/snapback]
Post at haste........ repent at leisure.

He only said 'it seems'.

Mind you Ratarse often makes silly assumptions.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 14:06:15
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 2 2008, 11:51 AM) [snapback]429033[/snapback]
Quite the opposite MJ, I have a grudge against people like your son who abuse the disabled badge system put in place to help disabled people.

Are you saying that if he hadn't been able to use his mother's disabled parking bay he wouldn't even have bothered to find a legal parking space and walk, thereby resulting in the starvation of his mother's much loved cats. ohmy.gif

What sort of heartless monster have you brought into this world MJ?

Ok-I give in.

BTW my son's on his way over to Brussels as I type. Can't be many dwarves there with ginger minges and a Scottish accent. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-02 14:09:48
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Apr 2 2008, 01:25 PM) [snapback]429066[/snapback]
The disabled person actually has to be in the car for the badge to be legally used. If not all hell would break lose with any bugger who got their hands on a badge someway or another proclaiming to be some sort of saint of the infirm.

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We're talking about PARKING.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 14:10:50
QUOTE(Yoda @ Apr 2 2008, 12:30 PM) [snapback]429043[/snapback]
Tanning headlights, starving cats, parking in disabled bays and views from high chairs aside laugh.gif , - it's never great to fall out with neighbours. You do have to pass them, live beside them and generally get on.

Speak to the guy first, explain that you've had relatives visit with vehicles and they couldn't get access to your drive to park, though you don't have a car you would still like to gain access to it if you needed to and would hate to see his car perhaps get damaged should someone attempt to pass the space he's left.

Failing that let two of his tyres down, one on the off side one on the near side, one front one back. He'll only notice one to start off with, change that, try to drive off, realise he's got another flat ---- great entertainment, you can watch them for hours.............. just don't let him see you laugh! ph34r.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-02 14:12:20
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Apr 2 2008, 12:25 PM) [snapback]429041[/snapback]
Using the same criteria, so would Dumbarton I think.

Nope-Dumbarton's just outside-I think the boundary's around Dumbuck.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 14:12:58
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Apr 2 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]429049[/snapback]
And St.Mirren.
Well Paisley is just another suburb of Glasgow as far as i'm concerned. rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-02 14:17:53
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Apr 2 2008, 01:27 PM) [snapback]429067[/snapback]
Aye, very good.
Irons is right, no way can Russell be described as an out-and-out striker when he has no grasp whatsoever of the offisde rule, and never actually runs towards goal when he gets the ball, instead preferring to f*** about out at the corner flag instead.

You are wrong, and Irons is wrong.

I have just DONE IT!


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mortonjag 2008-04-02 14:27:06
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Apr 2 2008, 02:14 PM) [snapback]429085[/snapback]
I wish I had noticed rolleyes.gif
I repeat, the badge is for the direct use of the person whose name and picture is on it, not just for anyone to use cause they can't be arsed walking down the street to their maws house.

No you did NOT repeat.

How the f*ck can a severely disabled non driver be picked up at home if somebody else can't use their disabled bay?


PLEASE READ THIS LEAFLET CAREFULLY

If you have a Blue Badge but do not have a car, other people may use their own cars to drive you around. Please ask them to read this leaflet too. They also need to know their rights and responsibilities with the Blue Badge.

Remember that if you are a disabled driver and your disability is such that it is likely or may become likely to affect your ability to drive (even if your car is adapted) the law requires you to inform the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency, Swansea SA99 1TU.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 15:42:39
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Apr 2 2008, 02:56 PM) [snapback]429091[/snapback]
I was just listing the teams that actually in Glasgow, otherwise I would have added the likes of Kirkintilloch RR, Kilsyth, Clydebank, Yoker, EK Thistle etc
Going by postcode, Greenock and Oban are in Paisley...

GREATER Paisley!
mortonjag 2008-04-02 15:52:20
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Apr 2 2008, 02:45 PM) [snapback]429089[/snapback]
Bright letters do not make your right.
If the disabled person is on holiday, the car is not being used to drive them around. Unless of course, it is a helipad, in which case I do apologise.

Whether or not the non-driving disabled person is on holiday- a non disabled person is permitted to park in the disabled bay for the purpose of assisting the disabled person. If the badge is legitimately displayed, it is not for third parties to legislate. A disabled bay is for a vehicle-not a person, and the use of the bay is at the discretion of the disabled person who alone is best able to know his or her needs.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 15:56:18
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Apr 2 2008, 03:48 PM) [snapback]429102[/snapback]
Afraid not son. Dumbarton's postcode is G82.

Who's daft idea was it to onclude postcodes anyway?

The teams are Rangers, Celtic, Partick, Queens Park (although amateur) and perhaps Clyde.

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Well I never-it isn't in Greater Glasgow Health Board District mind!
mortonjag 2008-04-02 16:10:31
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Apr 2 2008, 03:59 PM) [snapback]429107[/snapback]
I know Greater Glasgow health board was expanded after the debt run up by Argyll & Clyde to now include Inverclyde. The A&E hospital for Dumbarton is Paisley therefore I assumed Dumbarton was now part of Greater Glasgow too.

I'm not up to date-Health Boards clearly don't coincide accurately with post codes. When I was deputising for Greater Glasgow we covered Clydebank HC, but not Dumbarton, who of course had an up and running 'Vale of Leven' Hospital.

The catchment areas of GP's are defined and the furthest we went was the Dumbuck area. I seem to remember there was some Dog and Cat home at the actual boundary, but I never was called out to that!
mortonjag 2008-04-02 17:57:23
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 2 2008, 04:11 PM) [snapback]429112[/snapback]
I beg to differ. Clearly you just don't like Nicola Sturgeon, or Alex Salmond for that matter, and that's your prerogative, and indeed the apparent point of your posting. What is it you want the government to do? Do you consider that everyone should pay the full cost of their treatment (i.e. abolish the NHS), or perhaps you consider that there should be an income level above which charges cut in, or maybe you want the charges abolished - what is your point here? Is it not the case that a full abolition by the SNP would have met with your criticism, and a partial one ditto, and no reduction ditto? You just want to criticise Nicola Sturgeon basically.

It seems to me that as we have an NHS, it should be available on a needs basis and it might as well be either free (or arguably at nominal cost if you want to discourage spurious use). People don't choose to become ill, so why should they pay taxes to run the NHS and then pay another tax to make use of it?

Maybe the Scottish Government hasn't been able to abolish prescription charges in one go, but ask yourself why that is - the opposition parties diverted £500 million form their funds to pay for a vanity tram project, whereas that money coud have been put to better use. The SNP manifesto was based on getting an overall majority, so obviously it's not possible to implement it all in one go unless the other parties agree. The people you quote may be disappointed that the government hasn't abolished the charges entirely, but they would be a lot more disappointed if they had left them the same as they are in England.

Of course prescription charges are a tax on ill health - you don't pay them if you aren't ill. Yes, prescriptions shouldn't be handed out for minor trivia that are self-curing, but assuming the illnesses are genuine, the charges are indubitably a tax on illness, just as VAT is a tax on things you buy.


And that is YOUR prerogative Alibi, just as I may pontificate till the cows come home about your profession, without having a real clue about 'behind the scenes'.

The fact is that I am not the only person mentioning the anomalies in this latest piece of nonsense-AS I HIGHLIGHTED.

I don't know Sturgeon-I don't dislike people whom I don't know, but I DESPISE the way she's using the NHS as a popularity grabbing chattel.

She stated from the word go that her NHS 'would meet demand without further involvement of the Private Sector'. That claim is ludicrous beyond belief. Far from me disliking Sturgeon, or Salmond, I can state unequivocally, that unlike you, I have NO political axe to grind. I call it as I see it, and I KNOW the NHS.

Simple.


QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Apr 2 2008, 04:16 PM) [snapback]429116[/snapback]
MJ ...you earn enough from the sick as it is.

Large salary ,and the ability to self prescribe...

Have you ever paid for a prescription?



What are you talking about? I've been retired for some time. I neither have a big salary, nor any advantage over others should I need a prescription.

QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Apr 2 2008, 04:27 PM) [snapback]429123[/snapback]
hmmmm...

Not in my personal experience MJ, i have to get repeat prescriptions for life as im sure many do. In fact the majority of prescriptions that people i know who get them are repeat and they certainly aint cheap (unless you tick the wrong box!)...

when you have to go pick up 4 items at a time it can be a costly business.

like some one (maybe yourself?) said the other day, where would the money be taken from.. take it from the doctors salaries who are over paid moaning greeting face buggers. or just a fraction of this ongoing hunt the terrorist campaign thats going on round the world, or the so called war on drugs, or fecking level the tax system out to one that is based on income.. plenty of ways round it.

Prescriptions should be free.. theres no reason not to make them so.


People who require treatment for chronic and terminal illness suffer under the present system. That is what I said.


QUOTE(franco @ Apr 2 2008, 04:43 PM) [snapback]429133[/snapback]
Who does the prescribing?

People go to GP's with trivial symptoms and GP's prescribe them with drugs you say they don't really need, if i interpret your statement correctly. Seems easy to 'cure' the problem here.

I said, correctly, that the vast majority of prescriptions are for self limiting conditions. In the pre NHS days, when folk had to pay for treatment, they were generally stoical and had an emporium of home remedies. Please don't make me laugh by suggesting that overworked doctors should be attempting to curb demand at the very time when our Health Minister is telling folk they'll get exactly what they want.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 18:03:59
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 2 2008, 05:11 PM) [snapback]429142[/snapback]
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MJ, ya daft old fool.

http://www.alba.org.uk/timeline/1945to1967.html

Scottish results from the 1955 General election: -

MPs elected in Scotland: Conservative 36, Labour 34, Liberals 1. % of vote: Conservatives and allies 50.1 %, Labour 46.7 %, Liberals 1.9 %, Communists 0.5 %, SNP 0.5 %, other 0.3 %.

It's getting boring proving you wrong all the time.

It's getting boring listening to you twisting and turning and NEVER listening to what I say.

Those results had no bearing on proportional representation. Scotland's Tory voters have NEVER exceeded labour voters in numbers-plain and simple.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 18:05:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 2 2008, 05:15 PM) [snapback]429144[/snapback]
for the purpose of assisting the disabled person.

... including cat feeding.

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Indeed.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 18:07:00
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Apr 2 2008, 04:39 PM) [snapback]429130[/snapback]
He's not an out and out striker; he's a centre forward, but more of a provider than a goalscorer.

Your opinion or that of the Brechin fans?
mortonjag 2008-04-03 06:36:04
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 2 2008, 08:08 PM) [snapback]429190[/snapback]
We basically have two options here. (A) You either charge for prescriptions or (B)you get them for free.

What is you're preferred choice Doc ? No bulls*** just A or B ?

You really are adorably simplistic at times Spurtle. Well-here's the story, with NO bullsh*t.

At present (highlighted by WDE), SOME prescriptions are already free while others are not. The system is riddled with anomalies and grossly abused by fraudulent exemption claims. I would be in favour of TOTALLY scrapping prescription charges, provided the public were asked to understand that the lost revenue was being generated by cuts elsewhere in the NHS. Nickerless has NOT done that. She has pandered to the vast majority who need prescriptions on a 'one off basis', while ignoring those with chronic and terminal illness. She has blatantly lied about treatment of cancer patients in the process.

QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 2 2008, 08:19 PM) [snapback]429194[/snapback]
I went to the chemist with a prescription the quack gave to my recently arrived in the UK fiancee yesterday. I fully expected to pay for it as she is subject to immigration control. I was delighted when the pharmacist said ''is it for your wife'' ? I said yes and was delighted to be told there was no charge.

Afer they made up the prescription and gave a us a shout I asked them what box the doctor ticked to enable us to get free prescriptions so I could tick it next time too. The pharmacist pointed out that she would indeed need to pay for future prescriptions but would always be prescribed this particular product for free. That had me well confused. It wasn't who she was that she got yesterday's prescription for nothing, it was what it was.


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QUOTE(leyTON @ Apr 2 2008, 10:14 PM) [snapback]429265[/snapback]
you do a lot of maning mj, which is fine
can i ask which party you vote for, if it isnt too personal?


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I'd prefer to describe it as 'warning' leyTON. I thought you were an avid reader of my daily pearls of wisdom. I've stated repeatedly that I am beholden to no political party-indeed that I despise politics with a passion.

I think I've voted in about four general elections in my life, and NEVER for Labour or Tory. I voted SNP in the early seventies, because I believed the candidate could beat Labour, and indeed George Leslie was successful. Other than that I've voted for people and not parties.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 06:40:03
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Apr 2 2008, 08:59 PM) [snapback]429217[/snapback]
I agree with his political views, but also met him many times and he is a really nice bloke. He was also my tutor for Sociology this year and didn't miss one class despite all this going on.

And surely, if he won the case....shouldn't those who gave evidence against him be the ones being investigated
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mortonjag 2008-04-03 06:43:18
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 2 2008, 08:18 PM) [snapback]429193[/snapback]
No I'm not. They were foolish, there is a definite line between wickedness and foolishness.



QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 2 2008, 09:54 PM) [snapback]429251[/snapback]
Words DE, words. Negligence is a foolishness.

They did pay, and so I fear did their wee lassie. sad.gif

I fear that their life is fooked.

Is this case not still 'sub judice' gentlemen?
mortonjag 2008-04-03 06:52:35
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 2 2008, 06:26 PM) [snapback]429161[/snapback]
Can you not read auld yin, the number of Tory voters exceeded the number of Labour voters in Scotland in the 1955 General Election, and also had the majority of the popular vote (50.1%).

You're wrong, plain and simple, ya daft auld fanny.
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Grow up Rumpelstiltskin and stop spinning on your thimbledick.

Of course I can READ-it's just that unlike you I don't read in isolation, never take anything at face value, and do some research before 'spouting'.

50.1% voted for the Tories AND ALLIES. Labour-on its own got almost 50%. It's well know that there was a huge tactical vote that election year. The Liberal turnout was consequently diminutive.

Scotland has never had a majority of its voting population who were committed Tories.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 06:56:26
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 2 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]429256[/snapback]
i remember asking on here years ago for someone to explain to me a physics problem and i had an answer within 2 hours.

there are intelligent people about, they just don't post very often.

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mortonjag 2008-04-03 07:02:28
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Apr 2 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]429159[/snapback]
How many hereditary peers remain in Lords?
If you seriously think the House of Lords is anything other than right of centre then you ought to be sectioned.



QUOTE(leyTON @ Apr 2 2008, 11:24 PM) [snapback]429300[/snapback]
i dont not to trust peers, and i fully intend to scrap the ridiculous second house when im elected el presidente!





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Guide to peers and House of Lords
House of Lords

The government is unveiling its plans to reform the House of Lords, with MPs to vote on how many members should be elected and how many appointed. But what is the current situation?

There are 732 peers who have the right to sit in the House of Lords and take part in debates and votes. Of those, about 600 have been appointed for life.

Most hereditary peers - people who inherited their title - were removed from the House of Lords in 1999 in the first stage of reforms. However, 92 hereditary peers were allowed to keep their seats.

The many other hereditary peers are still Lords but are no longer allowed to sit in the House of Lords. (The House of Lords is the upper house of the UK's Parliament. Its role is to scrutinise, revise and, if necessary, delay laws proposed by MPs.)

Up to 12 law lords also sit in the Lords - their main work lies not in debates but judging cases in the highest appeal court in the UK.

There are also 26 Church of England archbishops and bishops who can speak and vote in the Lords.


PEERS IN THE HOUSE OF LORDS
1. Labour: 207 life peers, 4 hereditary peers
2. Conservative: 157 life peers, 47 hereditary peers
3. Lib Dems: 72 life peers, 5 hereditary peers
4. Cross-bench: 169 life peers, 33 hereditary peers
5. Church of England: 26 archbishops and bishops
6. Law Lords: 12
7. Other: 10 life peers, 2 hereditary peers
14 peers are on a leave of absence. A by-election is in hand to add a 92nd hereditary peer.

Life peers are appointed in a variety of ways.

Up until 2000, life peerages were handed out as part of the Queen's New Year's and Birthday Honours.

The creation of the House of Lords Appointments Commission means this now generally happens at other times of the year.

There are two sorts of life peers. The first are non-party political peers who are recommended by the House of Lords Appointments Commission.

They are people "with a record of significant achievement within their chosen way of life that demonstrates a range of experience, skills and competencies... who are able to make an effective and significant contribution to the work of the House of Lords".

The second category are party political peers (often known as working peers). Party leaders are able to nominate a certain number of people each year to join their benches in the Lords.

The actual number of people nominated, and the number per party is decided by the prime minister. The prime minister also decides when new peers are nominated.

The appointments commission vets these candidates for propriety, but not for their general suitability. It can voice concerns to the prime minister, who has the final say on whether they should be ennobled by the Queen.

In contrast to the past - especially the days when the Lords were dominated by hereditary peers - Labour is now the biggest party in the Lords, with 211 peers, but it can suffer defeats if opposition and crossbench peers unite against the government.

The Conservatives have 204 peers and the Lib Dems 77.

There is no limit to the number of peers who can be members of the House of Lords.

In 2003 the government proposed stripping the prime minister of the powers to decide how many peers are created, but the package was put on hold amid opposition to the idea of an all-appointed House of Lords.

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mortonjag 2008-04-03 07:06:32
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 2 2008, 06:30 PM) [snapback]429163[/snapback]
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There's no reasoning with the daft auld fanny. rolleyes.gif

His son is an able-bodied abuser of the Disabled parking badge and that makes him lower than a snake's baws.

My posts always go right over your head.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 07:09:01
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 3 2008, 12:33 AM) [snapback]429306[/snapback]
Jobs a good yin DMC . A few more scraps and he'll get the message . Had the same problem only we could never get out when the wee fella was in his pram . The way I look at it if they don't show any consideration for your access why should you show any for their property.

Emasculation of rapists-a variation of Damian's law and highly effective.

Nothing wrong with natural justice-eh?
mortonjag 2008-04-03 07:11:46
QUOTE(cappielow-doc @ Apr 2 2008, 10:55 PM) [snapback]429289[/snapback]
MJ,I used to think you were alright but ive come to the conclusion,(long after everyone else on this board)that you are indeed a FUD

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Listen to me child-my partner is an executive at Scottish Power. Why does telling the truth make me a 'fud'?
mortonjag 2008-04-03 07:19:36
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 2 2008, 10:16 PM) [snapback]429267[/snapback]
i'd love to know why those ridiculous rows of red bricks were embedded in every fecking road in glasgow over the course of a single night. too wee to make any difference at all to someone in a car but high enough to f*** my bike right up.

b*****ds! i forgot to phone the council today but i will tomorrow. maybe i'll even try a different councillor, see if i have one who actually replies to constituents.

Must have cost an absolute fortune-total waste of money IMO-as you say they're a pest to cyclists, and when motorists feel that wee tiny bump they put the foot down to check if anything's come loose under the car.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 07:29:41 Brian Winter

Date of Birth: 21 January 1968

Height: 5' 10"

Weight: 90 Kg / 14st 2lb

Profession: Firefighter

First ever match: East Stirling v Stiriling Albion – 1997 (Senior)
Eastfield UTD v Brass Button – 1993 – Lanarkshire Amatuer

First international match: Fourth Official – Georgia v Greece U21 - 2005

Career highlights Refereeing 3rd Round Scottish Cup – Arbroath v Aberdeen ( The first opportunity to officiate a Premier side in major competition). My first Premier League appointment 2004/05 (Livingston v Dunfermline). Being Fourth Official (Georgia v Greece U21)

What does being a football referee mean to you? It is very satisfying knowing you are contributing something toward the game we love.

Why did you become a referee? I was asked to attend the classes by a friend, and I thought this would be different!!

Would you have wished to become a full-time referee? No not really, I enjoy my full time job too much!!

Any pet hates in football? Blatant Cheating

What Law of the Game would you change? Law 12
When a Penalty is awarded for a foul inside the Penalty Area where a Direct Scoring Opportunity is prevented, I would scrap the “Red Cardâ€

The most difficult Law to apply? Law 12 – Fouls & Misconduct, the consistency of it. It is the most breeched Law in the game – obviously!

Your best memory in football? Kick Off at my first Premier Match (Livingston v Dunfermline – 2005)

Other sports or hobbies? Cycling, Walking and anything the kids decide.

Your main strength? I would like to think I show calm under pressure.

And main weaknesses? Where do I start. I can sometimes be too judgemental, my administration on the field is in a language only I can understand and I give in to my kids demands too easily – there 3.

What's in your car CD player? 1980’s Re-Mix, Elvis Pressely (Fathers Day Present!!!!)

Beer or wine? Beer - unfortunately

Favourite film? The Wizard of Oz - (The witch still scares me)

Tastiest food? Mexican

Favourite holiday destination? Ibiza

Luck or judgement? Judgement - 100% then you need luck

Dress up or dress down? Down please

Whom would you most like to meet? Hugh Dallas' Bank Manager

Ambitions? To be healthy and happy - No fuss !

Any advice for young referees? Work hard! Listen hard ! and Never say Never
mortonjag 2008-04-03 07:33:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 3 2008, 04:32 AM) [snapback]429311[/snapback]
Has ThornTON taken vows of silence ?

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I doubt it Newt. I find folk often disappear when asked pointed questions! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-03 09:27:33
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Apr 3 2008, 09:02 AM) [snapback]429332[/snapback]
We are now going into every game looking to get something from it as a realistic expectation. I quite fancy us to take something from all four remaining games - maybe three draws and a win or two wins two draws.

6 Points might not be enough given Clyde have Stirling on the last day. 8 Points would be I'm sure.

We're going to beat Dundee on Saturday.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 09:53:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 3 2008, 09:36 AM) [snapback]429338[/snapback]
Is he a man or a mouse ?

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Yes but not simultaneously.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 09:57:53
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 3 2008, 09:33 AM) [snapback]429337[/snapback]
MJ, I think the "allies" referred to were the Unionist Party - I think there was a separate unionist party at that time but it was basically the case that they were Tories standing under a different name. I think I am correct in saying that there weren't Tory and Unionist candidates both standing in any constituency. In effect therefore the Tories did have 50.1% of the vote. Don't ask me why!!

I well remember the Unionist Party-aye. The point I'm making is that the demography of Scotland allied to its industrial history has always dictated a majority Labour vote. In that particular election there was a large 'tactical' vote for Tory/Unionist by non Labour folk who wanted Labour out.

We've NEVER had a majority of 'died in the wool' Tories in the Scottish electorate.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 10:50:06
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Apr 3 2008, 07:44 AM) [snapback]429324[/snapback]
I'm not sure it can be that until charges are laid. But if you mean are the McCanns still suspects and are the Portuguese police in the UK this week reinterviewing the dinner guests, then yes.

Stepfather of Shannon has now been charged wth holding 10 indecent images of kids.

And people wonder why I need cheering up.

Maybe with the amount of luck the Huns have had recently, they'll find Maddie when they're over there.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 12:14:05
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 3 2008, 11:29 AM) [snapback]429358[/snapback]
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Ach I suppose you've got to admire a man who never knows when he well and truly beaten. laugh.gif

The reasons for 50.1% of the Scottish electorate voting Tory in the 1955 General Election are completely irrelevant. The very fact that they did proves that your original statement which was "as a Nation, we've never found 'Tory' an acceptable vote" is patently pish, as in 1955 we obviously did find it acceptable to vote Tory.

Just admit you talk s***e and we'll say no more on the subject.

BTW - The veracity of a statment is not proportional to the amount of personal insults contained within it. tongue.gif

Then stop making them.

..........and stop being a provocative clown-it was an anti Labour non Tory tactical vote which LOST Labour that election by the slimmest of margins.

As I have now stated several times, the electorate of Scotland has NEVER had a clear majority of TORY voters, and despite all your wriggling, and twisting, and playing with semantics, Hercules, facts are chiels that winna ding! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-03 12:29:39
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 3 2008, 12:00 PM) [snapback]429366[/snapback]
Ah, I think I see your point MJ - and I'd agree that the chronic prescription thing needs to be sorted, but that will happen when there is enough money if the opposition don't hijack the funds for some other matter like a constitutional commi... sorry, review.

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Everybody's a self appointed specialist on the NHS Alibi, but limited resources will never meet unfettered demand. That is the problem we've had increasingly since 1948, and it's always been the majority-the working well if you like- who have been pandered to when various governments have needed some spin on the NHS.

There's a hell of a difference between need and demand, and it seems to me that Ms Sturgeon has neglected the former in favour of popular measures-most of which she has instituted against the advice of the relevant professions.

That is in essence my biggest gripe.

If you believe that chronic and terminal illness should play second fiddle, for example, to scripts for buckshee contraceptive pills picked up from the GPs offfice after the normal working day is over, there's little I can do do persuade you otherwise.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 12:31:12
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Apr 3 2008, 12:23 PM) [snapback]429371[/snapback]
thats it, you sold me.

i'm switching back to eON

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I DIDN'T say shareholder! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-03 13:40:19
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 3 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]429378[/snapback]
Personally I would have a nominal fee - say �1 - that wouldn't be a huge burden but would be just enough to stop the increased demand that may well occur from totally free prescriptions; GPs should just say no when asked for prescriptions that aren't necessary but my father, who was a GP in Greenock for many years, always used to say that he didn't have enough time to argue with everyone who claimed to have a sore back and so often prescriptions were written for people who didn't need them. However I think it is quite wrong to have peole paying huge sums, especialy when they have three or four items to get and there is a full charge for each of them.

There is of course the season ticket, which is also being reduced in price a lot (50% reduction?). At the new price, it will make sense for a lot of people just to get one of those until such time as the charges are totally abolished.

I essence, if people didn't demand a prescription when there was no real need for it, the system would be fine, but there has to be a disincentive to discourage frivolous use of the NHS without penalising the genuinely sick.

Spot on, and therein lies the problem-introducing disincentives does not win votes!
mortonjag 2008-04-03 13:47:27
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 3 2008, 01:29 PM) [snapback]429393[/snapback]
It seems that only in that muddled auld heid of yours does 50.1% not consitute a majority. laugh.gif

Give in MJ, you're only succeeding in making yourself look more and more stupid by the minute. rolleyes.gif

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Never heard of 'floating voters', and tactical voting pimpleknob?

Scotland has NEVER been a 'TORY' country in terms of genuine electoral allegiance.

mortonjag 2008-04-03 13:49:40
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 3 2008, 01:47 PM) [snapback]429398[/snapback]
I thought the whole public sector had been moving away from cash accounting. Not the case or is it just a slow process?

The public sector is indeed a VERY slow process.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 13:50:59
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 3 2008, 01:48 PM) [snapback]429399[/snapback]
If he is transgender then surely it used to be a girl and therefore this is no real big shock?!

Men can't have babies.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 15:13:05
QUOTE(Yoda @ Apr 3 2008, 01:57 PM) [snapback]429402[/snapback]
One thing I have always wondered is how the filling of prescriptions is audited.

By that I mean - wee joe doesn't feel well, his doc writes a script for penicillin, wee joe feels better and doesn't go to the chemist to get it filled. Then he starts to feel worse again and goes back to the doctor - another prescription this time he goes to get it.

Surely that is a waste of resources. Two visits when one would have done. How does this affect the practice budget? Is there a limit of what can be written up, is the practice only charged for what is filled? How is it tracked? Is it tracked?

There are bound to be folk out there claiming sore back syndrom, getting prescriptions and never filling them. Would this help weed out people who are claiming benefits, who could clearly go back to work?

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A GP can write a hundred scripts Yoda, and if they are not dispensed, they simply cease to exist.

The Prescription Pricing Bureau keeps a careful track of all GP prescribing and if GPs are going into overspend they receive a warning. Further overspend results in deduction from salary.

For many years now, GPs have been forced to use 'generic' prescribing to save money. For a majority of drugs this makes sense, but debate still rages about the treatment of certain conditions where quality control must meet fine tolerances not always found in 'generics'.

It's far from a case of doctors just 'dishing out prescriptions on demand', and the Profession tries to act responsibly, but as Alibi has pointed out, there are many situations where it's best not to argue. Don't forget-patients can still vote with their feet, and GPs income is ultimately dependent on list size!

mortonjag 2008-04-03 15:15:49
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 3 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]429406[/snapback]
Whit?! They can't?!?!?! ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

Up until now, but I'm just waiting for an update from Brussels. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-03 15:21:19
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 3 2008, 02:54 PM) [snapback]429415[/snapback]
I'd tend to agree with that MJ, but given that election result, it would seem to suggest that it was, albeit only for a short time, a Tory country. It's a bit like saying "Scotland always votes Labour". Not any more it doesn't....

The huge leaps in technology in two generations have f*cked the working class. A classless society now has finally come to its senses in Scotland. SNP---much better than neo Tory 'lefties'. I just hope the Honeymoon period ends soon. I'm sure that when they come down off cloud nine, they'll start paying more attention to advisers. We can't afford to go backwards.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 15:26:25
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Apr 3 2008, 03:05 PM) [snapback]429416[/snapback]
I hope it wasn't David or Dean would not be happy wink.gif

MJ ask your secreatary if you would like to meet up in the near future ph34r.gif

HT-you have me baffled-David-that could make sense

Dean---Keenan???


The Monkey is my secretary. Please pm him if you wish! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-03 15:34:23
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Apr 3 2008, 02:50 PM) [snapback]429412[/snapback]
As bad as McInally was, I don't think anyone realised the full extent of his incompetence until we seen what happens when we have a manager who is even half-decent. I always believed that we had decent enough players to do ok in this league and we're starting to see that, and I'm quietly confident about our chances next season, presuming we stay up smile.gif

JM was a total rookie, and struggled under the large influence of Rae. I believe it's STILL impossible to say that he will never have some success.

Just because we've done a little better doesn't make the new team accomplished.

One step at a time. They must first keep us up-which I believe they will.

After that, a HUGE amount will depend on Douglas Rae. I don't believe he quite saw this coming when he thought he could penny pinch his way through this season. Hopefully he has taken stock. If he is unable to move the club forward, he should surely be looking for some inward investment.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 15:36:46
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 3 2008, 03:33 PM) [snapback]429426[/snapback]
Ah wish you could have been ma GP...oh what fun... laugh.gif

If it's amusement you seek from your GP Spurtle, I can recommend a few in Glasgow. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-03 15:40:04
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Apr 3 2008, 03:34 PM) [snapback]429427[/snapback]
In certain places Dean can be quite influential and show leadership wink.gif ...obviously though not at Cappielow.

You are stretching my faculties to the limit-David/secretary---Aye

Dean-NEVER I'm highly honoured! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-03 16:13:38
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Apr 3 2008, 03:46 PM) [snapback]429434[/snapback]
Big Stu has been much better of late. He's clearing his lines well and has stopped trying to head the ball when it's six inches off the ground!

All we need is the big centre backs to keep things simple.

The midfield's been beefed up-it's not always obvious, but that's definitely taken pressure off the central defence.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 16:32:19
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Apr 3 2008, 04:23 PM) [snapback]429447[/snapback]
Is our recent revival down the

SHOOGLESHONK REDEMPTION

Aye-Shoogly got out of jail just in time!
mortonjag 2008-04-03 20:21:54
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Apr 3 2008, 05:48 PM) [snapback]429478[/snapback]
Christ that didn't take much. You need to get yourself enrolled back in the old alma mater. tongue.gif

I still do evening courses, though nothing at present.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 20:24:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 3 2008, 07:21 PM) [snapback]429491[/snapback]
this is no real big shock?!
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Waken up, puggsy...
s(he) will make millions.

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Just like the Shooglemeister.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 20:35:00
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Apr 3 2008, 07:53 PM) [snapback]429494[/snapback]
Only because Clyde have now played their game in hand...

....and we leaked goals before JM left.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 21:46:33
QUOTE(nani @ Apr 3 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]429504[/snapback]
Have to say I`m disappointed with the replies.....especially you Morton Jag. As for being in 2nd bottom because Clyde have played their game in hand?! Perhaps its because we have won 1 game in 7 and dropped 14 points since Irons made us a "tighter unit" As far as i can see we are still playing one up, hitting aimless long balls and cannae score. Yeah we`ve had a couple of clean sheets but very fortuitously v Thistle when, quite frankly, we were dreadful. Plus the two games we had to win....v Clyde and Livvy we failed to do so. Anyway McInally is in the past and maybe one way or the other we`ll be playing in the 1st Division next season. However that remains to be seen and as far as Irons goes he remains unproven...both at Gretna where he nearly blew a 14 pt lead and with us. The reality is that we have scraped 1 victory and that v the bottom team. And you lot seem happy with that......

Mortonjag likes to disappoint people!

I've been fairly critical of David Irons. I was raging that we didn't get the three points at Broadwood, but anybody with one eye and half a brain can see we're much better organised. I take it you were at Firs Park on Saturday watching your lover boy's team. We could easily have had the three points at Dumfries-they were NEVER in it-AND we're ging to beat Dundee on Saturday.


PS-are you a skunk?
mortonjag 2008-04-03 21:51:03 MORTON 2 DUNDEE 1


LEAFY - 2
mortonjag 2008-04-03 22:08:23
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 3 2008, 10:03 PM) [snapback]429511[/snapback]
courses of brick work ??

you multi-talented man, you.

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Indeed-just a w*nker like Churchill! Is that how it was cement to be?
mortonjag 2008-04-03 22:11:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 3 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]429515[/snapback]
and even if not, will the child be emotionally scarred by having such parents ???

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Dr mortonjag, your professional opinion, please.

We thank you, professor.

Oh I'd not be in the slightest surprised if he's crucified.

Is that not what happened last time somebody pulled a fast one like this?
mortonjag 2008-04-03 22:14:55
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 3 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]429520[/snapback]

Oh I'd not be in the slightest surprised if he's crucified.

he's crucified ?

Who ?

the father ?

the child ?

the other ?

The 'thing' they produce from somewhere at the end of this 'pregnancy'.
mortonjag 2008-04-04 09:28:22
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 3 2008, 11:33 PM) [snapback]429540[/snapback]
Irons is playing with McInally's team , he spoke about the system he has had to adop rather than the one he wants to play because we have a squad of central midfielders .

I admit we have no real quality upfront and that is a huge problem , but hey that will be that guy Irons fault . Perhaps we should have kept guys like Coakley who added so much to the club .

Any idiot can see the transformation in the defence , McInally could not get his own players to perform at this level .
We are in this mess not because of Irons but because of several earlier factors .

The failure to make any signings with significent 1st division experience in the summer.

Tactics and substitutions from McInally went from bizarre to inane .

Our terrible home record( and I don't mean Life is Life )

Losing a game in extra time against our nearest rivals showed how devoid of confidence the players were .

So in steps Irons ... with problems in defence and up top , his priority is to stop us leaking goals (unless you have the Kevin Keegan coaching manual). This should start giving the players some confidence .

I won't pretend to think that Irons is happy with his record but until he has his own players in and given the same budget as McInally then we might see a true comparison .
However if you believe that McInally would have saved us from the play offs I'll have half a pint of whatever your on ( pint would be too much .... I hate hilucangenic drugs



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QUOTE(vikingTON @ Apr 3 2008, 11:47 PM) [snapback]429546[/snapback]
Corect as he didn't have any.
He put out a formation, swapped the players around to half fit the formation and from what it looks, told them: "Win".
Irons is adapting the team to meet each individual sides strengths and weaknesses, like a competent manager would.

...and still managed to con 75% of the fans and Shoogly for three years-some man!

QUOTE(irvineTON @ Apr 4 2008, 08:27 AM) [snapback]429586[/snapback]
Are you on the wind-up?

U surely must be, noone can back McInally after the dreadful performances and shambolic defending this season. U cannot compare the 2 managers records!! Irons can only use the s***e that McInally has left him. If u can't see the improvement under Irons, then u must be off ur rocker!!!! wink.gif ohmy.gif

....or a she goat.

QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 4 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]429587[/snapback]
interestingly, both irons and mcinally have averaged exactly one point per game - and that looks to be play-off form as clyde might well get 4 points themselves.

mcinally's goals per game ratio is better than irons'. irons needs 3.6 goals against dundee to catch up, so i predict

4-3 to the ton tongue.gif

mind you, i think we're good for a couple of draws against alloa, so it'll all come down to penalties sad.gif

We will beat Dundee.
mortonjag 2008-04-04 09:37:54
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Apr 3 2008, 11:14 PM) [snapback]429533[/snapback]
The reality is though MJ, that you had a substantial salary from the NHS all your working days and have retired on an inflation proofed NHS pension - n'est ce pas? That makes you a lot better off than the majority of people I see in my working life. You try paying for a repeat prescription whilst on low (but not low enough) earnings to qualify for free charges.

As I happens, I too have a repeat prescription for life but mine was self inflicted due to a predeliction for nice red wine with the consequent impact on big toes!! I can afford it but I see many who can't and maybe means testing would be a better approach that universal free prescriptions.

Quick PS: I did not mean to imply that doctors should not be well rewarded for 1) their academic achievments - being in the top 5% intellectually and using that constructively should be rewarded 2) For the hours they put in - something they have in common with most professionals where the typicla working week is a t least 50 hours.



I'm pretty alive to the realities and support assistance for those with chronic and terminal conditions versus the current free for all scramble.

QUOTE(El Duderino @ Apr 3 2008, 11:36 PM) [snapback]429541[/snapback]
I thought one of the big reasons why prescription charges were re-introduced was that every Tom, Dick and Archie had a medicine cabinet to rival most of the hospital wards.

Same reason as why free spectacles was scrapped. Everyone wanted a couple of spares .... "just in case".

It's a question of resources and the NHS isn't limitless

I think it's a backward step, but meant with good pseudosocialist intentions.

I agree with Mortonjag that perhaps "chronic illness" prescriptions could be subsidised (further than they already are - these drugs are often astronomically expensive), whereas more acute prescriptions (antiobiotics etc) should perhaps cost joe public an appropriate fee (with appropriate exemptions i.e 1 in 5 persons in glasgow "incapable of working" rolleyes.gif )

I also think the NHS should look to recoup some finances form the thousands of wasted GP and hospital appointments that people can't be arsed attending.

My GP had a sign up saying 118 people didn't attend their appointment in the last month!!!

What the f*** is that about!

My dentist would charge me £10 if I didn't go - Why not the GP?

�1180 a month just from one GP practice.....

Maybe if people didn't waste the Doc's time then people could get seen quicker?

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You Sir, clearly have no need for spectacles! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-04 09:56:19
QUOTE(cappielow-doc @ Apr 4 2008, 12:38 AM) [snapback]429558[/snapback]
Because you are saying that everyone that does my job does nothing but con old ladies into changing companies and going to direct debit.You haven't got a clue what you are talking about,therefore painting everyone with the same brush,thus making you a FUD!!!



QUOTE(cappielow-doc @ Apr 4 2008, 12:42 AM) [snapback]429559[/snapback]
P.S. this CHILD is 43 years old,and has been doing this job for the last 6 1/2 years.

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Shall I rephrase then?

It's all about attempting to persuade the public that changing 'energy provider' to Scottish Power will be to its advantage, and obtaining authorisation for that.

It is often the case that consumers are persuaded to change when in fact they gain no advantage, or even incur an overall loss.

It is also the case that vulnerable people (many of whom are elderly and female) are FAR more likely than others, to sign contracts and direct debits for charming and persuasive (43 year old ) young men in smart suits and shiny shoes.

I knew you were a con artist the minute you called yourself a Doc.

Really you're just a fud who preys on vulnerable old ladies! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-04 10:00:36 Mortonjag has many acquaintances. Close friends are best avoided.
mortonjag 2008-04-04 10:06:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 4 2008, 07:37 AM) [snapback]429580[/snapback]
The "world's first pregnant man" and his wife say they may have to go into hiding to avoid a violent conservative reaction to their baby.

Transgender man Thomas Beatie and his wife Nancy appeared on the Oprah Winfrey Show and discussed the pregnancy at length, including the method of conception.

Mr Beatie, 34, was born a woman but switched sexes 10 years go by taking testosterone and undergoing surgery to remove his breasts.

He was legally recognised as a man in his home state of Oregon, although he still has female organs.

"I opted not do anything with my reproductive organs because I wanted to have a child," Mr Beatie told Winfrey.

When asked by the talk show host how they planned to deal with media "hound-dogs outside your door step", Mrs Beatie said they would go into hiding if necessary.

"We just want to have the baby now and we've let people know our story our way … we're not going to obviously be able to keep our business running but it's something that we knew would possibly happen."

Nancy Beatie said she had inseminated her husband, who is now six months pregnant, at home by using a veterinary syringe with donor sperm.

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Amber, Mrs Nancy’s adult daughter from a previous marriage, said she was scared about the couple going public with their news.

"It's a little scary, we're scared for them," she said.

"I don't know that the world is all that prepared but we're just regular born people and a regular family."

Mrs Beatie insisted that the couple's roles would not change after birth and that she would be the mother and Mr Beatie would be the father to the child.

"When I look at him he gets bigger everyday, it doesn't change how I feel about him being my husband."

"It's so wonderful, I bet a lot of women would like to have their husband's pregnant," she said.

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Mr Beatie said he thought "different was normal", when Winfrey asked if the pair thought the world was ready for a man to have a baby.

"Love makes a family, that's all that matters," he said to applause.

The couple's obstetrician Dr Kimberly James, who accepted them after they were turned down by other doctors, said the pregnancy was normal and that Mr Beatie stopped taking testosterone two years ago.
Only in America ???

The truth is that we have here two biological women. The rest is utterly contrived.

I suspect God may sort them out-he has a habit of doing that.
mortonjag 2008-04-04 10:10:03
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 4 2008, 12:55 AM) [snapback]429563[/snapback]
I'm loath to share this website with anyone wink.gif but here ya go.

http://www.g23.com/

some amazing clobber on there, very reasonable. Quick and efficient delivery. Got my blue and gold Puma Clyde from them, fcking gorgeous! smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-04 10:12:05
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 4 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]429589[/snapback]
Stylish Sir, damnably stylish.

I favour lacing boots tbh.

Brogans for a more casual day out.

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mortonjag 2008-04-04 14:07:16
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Apr 4 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]429604[/snapback]
Hey. MJ learnt how to multi-quote! smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-04 14:22:48 Bawbags CAN be useful.



Function

The function of the scrotum appears to be to keep the testes at a temperature slightly lower than that of the rest of the body. For the human, a temperature around 34.4 degrees Celsius (94 degrees Fahrenheit) seems to be ideal; 36.7 degrees Celsius (98 degree Fahrenheit) may be damaging to sperm count. The temperature is controlled by moving the testicles closer to the abdomen when it is cold, and away when hot. This is done by the contracting and relaxing of the cremaster muscle in the abdomen and the dartos fascia (muscular tissue under the skin) in the scrotum. However, this may not be the main function. The volume of sperm produced by the testes is small, (0.1-0.2ml). It has been suggested that if testes were situated within the abdominal cavity that they would be subjected to the regular changes in abdominal pressure that is exerted by the abdominal muscles. This squeezing and relaxing would result in the more rapid emptying of the testes and epididymes of sperm before the spermatozoa were matured sufficiently for fertilisation. Some mammals--elephants and sea-mammals, for example--do keep their testes within the abdomen and there may be mechanisms to prevent this inadvertent emptying.

In most biological males, the cremaster muscle itself cannot be controlled voluntarily. Contraction of the abdominal muscles, and changes in intraabdominal pressure, often can lift and lower the testicles within the scrotum. Contraction of the muscle fibers of the dartos tunic (or fascia) is completely involuntary and results in the appearance of increased wrinkling and thickening of the scrotal skin. The testicles are not directly attached to the skin of the scrotum, so this dartos contraction results in their sliding toward the abdomen.
The human scrotum, which contains the testicles.
The human scrotum, which contains the testicles.

Although the ideal temperature for sperm growth varies between species, it usually appears, in warm-blooded species, to be a bit cooler than internal body temperature, necessitating the scrotum. Since this leaves the testicles vulnerable in many species, there is some debate on the evolutionary advantage of such a system. One theory is that the impregnation of females who are ill is less likely when sperm is highly sensitive to elevated body temperatures.

An alternative explanation is to protect the testes from jolts and compressions associated with an active lifestyle. Animals that have 'stately' movements - such as elephants, whales, and marsupial moles - have internal testes and no scrotum


If we signed Williams today and he scored three tomorrow in a victory, and another eight before the end of the season, and fifty in next season's championship winning run-he's still be a bawbag.

Bawbags CAN be useful.
mortonjag 2008-04-04 14:32:46
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 4 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]429733[/snapback]
Enough is enough. If they can't fulfil their fixtures, that should be the end of it. Patently obvious they are trading while insolvent and currently reducing creditor value. If they don't stop, the administrators are being negligent.

It's been patently obvious for some time that the creditors are very far down the pecking order.

CRIMINAL BEHAVIOUR.[center][/center]


As I have stated from the word 'go' dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-04 14:44:00
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Apr 4 2008, 02:30 PM) [snapback]429748[/snapback]
ok, so you are qualified to make this judgement because "your partner is an executive at scottish power". does that mean that the views those expressed are those of your partner? i am sure that the press would be very interested in getting a couple of soundbites from him/her if thats the case.

i smell a Ratner...

Don't be naive-I NEVER express any views except my own, and they are invariably correct.

I have met many old, and not so old ladies and gentlemen, who have expressed regret at having concluded bargains of all sorts, without due consideration of the possible consequences.

Marriage is one well known example.

My partner-to whom I am NOT married, simply confirms that customers are not always advised appropriately when they change energy supplier.

mortonjag 2008-04-04 14:45:57
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Apr 4 2008, 12:38 PM) [snapback]429662[/snapback]
Bollox!

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mortonjag 2008-04-04 14:51:19
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 4 2008, 10:30 AM) [snapback]429614[/snapback]
When we can spend £Billions of pounds on wars, perhaps getting annoyed on spending £57m on abolishing prescription charges seems rather foolish.

It's still a HELLUVA lot of money wee Nickerless can't now spend elsewhere in the NHS Spurtle.

Good idea in principle, and she's still made a total arse of it. Hopefully she will do better in future.
mortonjag 2008-04-04 14:56:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 4 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]429616[/snapback]
Would-be property magnates take note. biggrin.gif

He also has close connections with several Zurich gnomes.
mortonjag 2008-04-04 15:00:29
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 4 2008, 12:50 PM) [snapback]429677[/snapback]
I hope your next jobby is a small spikey rodent.

Ever the gentleman.
mortonjag 2008-04-04 15:06:16
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 4 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]429762[/snapback]
Yet another convenient relation in an I know your job better than you do Mortonjag job post. What is you partner's title? I reckon he's the assistant vice president of beverages whos most stressful time of the day is mid morning and just after lunch.

F*ck off Raterse-Mortonjag NEVER lies. You just haven't forgiven me for the Surveyors having to settle out of court because this old fud spotted a lead mains water pipe which was there for all to see! tongue.gif

.....AND the Lecky's just been switched off at yer scabby wee hoose!
mortonjag 2008-04-04 15:09:51
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 4 2008, 10:48 AM) [snapback]429620[/snapback]
Hush puppies are for louche Terry Thomas types.

So be it.

Better than brogues and a baseball bunnet a la Haig!
mortonjag 2008-04-04 15:17:19
QUOTE(Edinton @ Apr 4 2008, 11:54 AM) [snapback]429651[/snapback]
Can we keep actual names out of it please, especially if we're making allegations or sullying someone's name (deserved or not), cheers

OK Griselda!
mortonjag 2008-04-04 15:30:57
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 4 2008, 02:49 PM) [snapback]429759[/snapback]
Perhaps Doctors have been 'murdering' terminally ill patients for years then. Should they resist giving that extra cc of morphine just to relieve pain, and walk away and leave them to suffer instead? In these cases, I'm sure it's a fine line between a pain relieving dose and a deadly one.

Of course we have-good gracious, little Georges is so precious at times.

I argue that the term 'assisted suicide' is more acceptable, not least because it adds a modicum of dignity, but if pimpleknob wants it his way-so be it.

Maybe if I botch up his 'assisted suicide' he'll be charged with having been an accessory to attempted murder, though he'll no doubt have died in agony long before it gets to court.

DOCTORS ARE MASS MURDERERS
mortonjag 2008-04-04 15:33:13
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 4 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]429769[/snapback]
£57m is a lot of money. But it pails in to insignificance when you compare that to the £billions spent on wars.

The NHS and the the wars in Iraq and Afganistan, not forgetting Trident of course, are all funded from Westminster through various channels.

To criticise Strugeon for spending a paltry £57m in the big scheme of things, beggers belief.

If Scotland raised and kept all of it's Taxes you could have an argument. But it doesn't, it realies on funding from Westminster, who's priorities seems to be funding for wars and weapons of mass destruction, before funding the NHS and Scotland.

Misspending Spurtle-it IS different.
mortonjag 2008-04-04 15:37:43
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Apr 4 2008, 02:39 PM) [snapback]429752[/snapback]
If this was a dying person the machine would be switched off enough is enough its a bigger joke than ever now. Its a disgrace sympathies alibi but you can kiss the money bye bye unless you go directly for mileson but would not hold your breath

....which would be 'passive' euthanasia, and not murder! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-04 15:39:24 sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-04 15:41:03
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 4 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]429783[/snapback]
"There are none so blind, as those who would not see..."

I can get you a cheap pair of specs, but they ain't exactly free on the NHS now Spurtle.
mortonjag 2008-04-04 15:42:47
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 4 2008, 03:05 PM) [snapback]429770[/snapback]
A sectarian factor applied in those times as well. Protestants tended to vote Conservative/Unionist (except the Edwards) and Catholics voted Labour (except the McBs).

Those would have been the days before cross breeding was legal I imagine.
mortonjag 2008-04-04 15:49:57
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Apr 4 2008, 03:42 PM) [snapback]429788[/snapback]
Couldn't agree more. He didn't give a fúck about us when we needed him, pissed away chance after chance and in his last nine months at the club he was a fúcking disgrace. Hope he takes a walk till his bunnet floats. The last thing we need is another stint with this over rated, up his own arse, prima donna of a fúckwit.

He showed his class the last time he was here in the way he treated his club, his team mates and the fans.

A disgrace of a footballer.

TonInDublin

More sinned against than sinning I'd say. A poor wee tortured soul trying to fight demons, and just in need of some genuine affection.

TBH I'd rather see the arrogant little fud kicking f*ck oot a fitba' than an old lady mind you. blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-04 16:44:36
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Apr 4 2008, 03:39 PM) [snapback]429786[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-04-04 16:47:16
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 4 2008, 04:05 PM) [snapback]429796[/snapback]
Do you drink in the Quaich in Shawlands by any chance? There's an old fella, a regular, in there that tells everyone he owns Morton. He's right scruffy looking too.

Nope! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-04 16:55:59
QUOTE(cappielow-doc @ Apr 4 2008, 04:10 PM) [snapback]429799[/snapback]
I dont go round chapping doors "conning" old and vulnerable people to do anything,quite the opposite,i visit existing customers who have agreed to switch to a different company and show them the benefits of staying with Scottish Power,many of them regret having decided to change in the first place.If they want to stay with S.P. then i arrange for the transfer back to S.P.

Its other companies that employ agencies on a commission only basis that con old ladies and the like to make a fast buck.I never lie to a customer,ive no need to,i make plenty by telling the truth,and the consequences of being found out after a complaint are far too excessive for the sake of a couple of quid.

Im sure you have met many old and not so old ladies and gentlemen who have regreted changing but i bet the majority regretted changing to a company other than Scottish Power.

Incidently,MJ,who supplies your energy,i presume its Scottish Power what with Mrs MJ being an exec!!
if so.....GET AFF MA BACK YA FUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Aye very good. Why don't Iberdrola just write to those customers with little brochures demonstrating the error of their ways, with a clear cut cost for cost analysis and projections for the next twelve months?

Surely that would be much cheaper than paying folk £30,000- £40,000 per annum to do exactly the same?

Oh, and I'm not 'on your back'. I touched a tender spot and you took umbrage. Door to door salesmen are generally 'con artists'.
mortonjag 2008-04-04 17:21:53
QUOTE(cappielow-doc @ Apr 4 2008, 05:11 PM) [snapback]429817[/snapback]
Maybe they should employ you,save loads of money and put us all on the dole,or maybe your "exec" mrs should put it in the suggestion box.Im sure this cost cutting excercise has been thought of before and decided that it wasn't the way to go.But im still employed by Scottish Power and will continue to do my job,i dont tell lies,if i go to an elderly customer who for instance has changed to Staywarm and can burn as much as they like for around 50 or 60 quid a month i'll walk away,on the other hand if a customer has changed to N/Power or Scottish Gas and i CAN save them money by staying where they are i will do so.......no wee brochure will tell them that.

By the way you did touch a tender spot...i RESENT being called a con artist

I haven't specifically called you a 'con artist'. My first post on this topic was to Boozehound, and was stated in general terms.

How would you describe your job-you clearly don't like to be thought of as a persuasive salesman, which, IMO, is exactly what you are.
mortonjag 2008-04-04 17:24:10
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 4 2008, 05:14 PM) [snapback]429818[/snapback]
What you don't seem to appreciate though is that the 'buy to letters' are providing a service that was sadly lacking after Thatcher's sell-off of the best council housing stock. Without private rental housing sector there would be a shortage of affordable rented accommodation.

I rent out a flat in Greenock, but it's well maintained and looked after and the rental is certainly not exploitative.

You do all this for no profit pimpleknob?
mortonjag 2008-04-04 17:25:27
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 4 2008, 05:18 PM) [snapback]429819[/snapback]
It's a funny old time of year for the weather, isn't it.

It's a lovely warm evening and I'm sitting in the garden typing this while enjoying a nice glass of rosé, and yet the forecast for the beginning of next week is snow.

It's crazy I tell you.

a glass of nice rose?
mortonjag 2008-04-04 17:28:16
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 4 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]429828[/snapback]
Panic over, it was a tractor.

What am I like? rolleyes.gif

Petit.
mortonjag 2008-04-04 17:29:07
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 4 2008, 05:25 PM) [snapback]429826[/snapback]
Aye, of course I do. rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-04 17:31:26
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Apr 4 2008, 05:00 PM) [snapback]429814[/snapback]
Your post was spot on until you got to the Finlayson bit. We have not scored many recently but Finlayson or McAllister have had a hand in most of them. The guys are doing the feeding. Unfortunately we don't have anyone in the middle at the moment accepting the chances.

Cart before horse IMO.
mortonjag 2008-04-04 17:32:28
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 4 2008, 05:30 PM) [snapback]429831[/snapback]
Dwarfs like me would kill to be petit.

Anyway, somebody just drove past and he looked a bit shifty. Should I call the cops just to be on the safe side?

Aye!
mortonjag 2008-04-05 09:03:08
QUOTE(cappielow-doc @ Apr 4 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]429846[/snapback]
Of course it could be described as persuasive,but i also present the facts in the form of pricing leaflets from rival compaies to compare with our own.Its then up to the customer to decide what do do with the information in front of them.If i present a brochure which clearly states that Scottish Power is cheaper than a rival company after a salesman from that company told you different,what would you do?If your direct debit was cut by £20 a month and their prices are higher.......you do the math.

Its up to the customer



OK-let's accept for a moment that you're not one of the majority of 'con men' in this game, and let's accept that you are utterly sincere, and never, ever tell lies.

Do you research all the information you are given personally to make sure it is accurate, and presented in a simple, straightforward manner which is not in any way designed to show your employer in a good light?

Secondly, are you acquainted with the concept of INFORMED consent, and its legal implications?


QUOTE(LargsTON @ Apr 4 2008, 07:06 PM) [snapback]429881[/snapback]
So how WAS London? tongue.gif



WTF are you talking about? unsure.gif


QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 4 2008, 07:23 PM) [snapback]429907[/snapback]
Another thread fcked over by the narcissistic egomaniac cnt.,


Manky's only made one post!


QUOTE(cappielow-doc @ Apr 5 2008, 02:37 AM) [snapback]430075[/snapback]
dont worry,he'll be back..........doesn't know wwhen he's beay or to shut up


Sooner you learn that, sooner you'll give up! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-05 09:07:47
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 4 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]429888[/snapback]
Funny you should say that, cos my back garden is a cemetery. No really, it is. I'm literally a few feet away from a stiff. I've taken pictures of all the headstones and tell everyone they're my neighbours.

If Fred West had lived here he'd have got away with it.

But anyway, it was only a tractor that sounded a bit like a helicopter.

....and will soon be getting beasted into some vintage Belgian chocolate.
mortonjag 2008-04-05 09:18:46
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 4 2008, 11:53 PM) [snapback]430034[/snapback]
Right
and flock
and fok
and sock
and mok
and lock
and?

WOK



This useless old fud of a Doc
Is truly sh*t hot with his wok
Crisp spring pancake rolls
Deep fried chicken balls
And freshly chopped sweet and sour c*ck
mortonjag 2008-04-05 09:28:42
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 5 2008, 12:05 AM) [snapback]430043[/snapback]
.......and so you should.
Let's applaud common sense and non political bias when it comes to peoples health
It's time we removed charges to treat illness - well done I say and f8ck off anyone who harbours or uses things like this for their political gain!

Talisker?



I'm confused-whom are you applauding, and whom are you telling to f*ck off?


...and how do you define the illness for which treatment should be free?
mortonjag 2008-04-05 09:32:58
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Apr 5 2008, 01:55 AM) [snapback]430072[/snapback]
You're no better than Harold Shipman. rolleyes.gif

Nobody is completely evil. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-05 09:42:31
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 4 2008, 06:09 PM) [snapback]429849[/snapback]
The only place you should see braces are in a pizza-faced teenager's gub.



I'd rather take them smartly across his little pink botty.


[quote name='DongaTon' date='Apr 4 2008, 07:21 PM' post='429904']
MortonJag, what's wrong with being gay?

Gaiety in footwear I find disgusting.


mortonjag 2008-04-05 09:55:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 5 2008, 09:23 AM) [snapback]430099[/snapback]
Fail...please try again tongue.gif

Fail-WTF are you yabbering about boy-stick to numbers-rolls and balls are perfectly acceptable with only a hint of poetic language! rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 5 2008, 09:25 AM) [snapback]430100[/snapback]
Deep fried chicken balls

are chicken balls bigger than fish balls ?

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How long is a piece of Shooglyesque?
mortonjag 2008-04-05 10:03:00
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 4 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]429916[/snapback]
I think it would be a good idea if creamola foam came back into the shops


Originally produced in Glasgow, Creamola Foam was practically unknown south of the Border, but sold all over Scotland. It was also popular in Northern Ireland. A number of Creamola Foam nostalgia websites have sprung up, in which fans have discussed their favourite flavours, disputed the spelling (Creamola, not Cremola, is correct), hailed it as a hangover cure, and even hinted at less family-friendly uses for the drinks, such as mixing with vodka and even snorting the powder laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-05 10:05:20
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 4 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]429946[/snapback]
How are the under 17s and under 19s going this season ?

I never see anything in the online Greenock Telegraph or Inverclyde Now.

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Hey Newt, are you a trouble maker? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-05 10:07:45 After today's results we'll feel much more comfortable.
mortonjag 2008-04-05 10:12:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 5 2008, 03:15 AM) [snapback]430079[/snapback]
AFTER a frantic week of bluff and counter-bluff, the Scottish Premier League was forced to come up with an 11th-hour rescue package to save Gretna from closure yesterday.

Following yet another threat from the administrator to pull the plug yesterday morning, the SPL board is understood to have guaranteed funding of £340,000 to see Gretna through to the end of the season.

This afternoon's match against Inverness Caledonian Thistle at Fir Park is now expected go ahead.
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/sport/SPL-...more.3951248.jp
If I was a creditor I would be doing all I could to help all the trade creditors to feeze that £340,000.

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What a waste using it for 6 more matches.

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Tonsilitis may still believe the Administrator is acting wholly in the creditors' interest.
mortonjag 2008-04-05 10:18:10
QUOTE(centralTON @ Apr 4 2008, 06:15 PM) [snapback]429853[/snapback]
Bawbags CAN be useful.

Aye, but, not in this instance, MJ.
Wouldn't touch him with a barge pole.
Why does this thread appear every few weeks.



Presumably because folk believe the answer to our woes lies ON the pitch! wink.gif


QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Apr 5 2008, 05:04 AM) [snapback]430085[/snapback]
Haven't read the whole thread because it appears all the time, but my opinion is that Alex is exactly the type of player that we need. If we could sign Williams the player with a personality transplant, I would be willing to pay a sizeable fee for him (although to be honest, he would be playing well above our level), but his behaviour in the past was all wrong and the door to Cappielow is now firmly shut for him. A player in his mould though, should be our priority - pace, effort and always in the right place at the right time to score goals. Who else fits that bill I don't rightly know, but the chances are DDFR will have to get the cheque book out and pay a sizeable sum on someone who isn't Paul McGowan. We should have kept Linn until we got a direct replacement.
I bear Alex no ill will though, he was my favourite player when he was here, I thought he showed massive potential and I still hope he can fulfil that even if it is unlikely.

Personality transplant in place-couldn't agree more-time we got some entertainment back to Cappielow. 'Grinding out results' has become JM's legacy.
mortonjag 2008-04-05 10:30:35
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Apr 5 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]430122[/snapback]
I wonder if any of our fans who remember seeing Bobby Collins play for Morton between 1969 and 1971 could read this: http://greenockmortonfc.blogspot.com/2008/...-wee-barra.html and maybe post any memories of the player below.

My lasting memory of Bobby will always be his tackling-he really was short-I don't know what the stats say but he couldn't have exceeded 5'5", and seemed almost as broad! tongue.gif

I'm not talking about clever slide tackling from either side--Bobby would close down an oncoming player and you just KNEW what would happen-he always took the ball and/or the man, and never ended up the loser. I remember standing behind the goals at Sinclair St. in one particular game, when he 'took' a big attacker about thirty yards out, and I still recall the unbelievable 'crunch' as Bobby ran clear with the ball and played it forward. It was a totally legal tackle, but the poor guy was subsequently stretchered off.
mortonjag 2008-04-05 10:35:22
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 5 2008, 10:10 AM) [snapback]430117[/snapback]
MJ is that your monkey advertising the tea bags on tv?????? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

No, that's his friend 'Sage'-if you look carefully you'll see a distinct difference in colour, and in the shape of the mouth!

The Monkey's hoping to play trials for the Ton once they get a youth set up organised.
mortonjag 2008-04-05 11:08:30
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 5 2008, 10:47 AM) [snapback]430138[/snapback]
Fair do's I thought we had a celebrity in our midst!

Ha---but Sage lives here too-I'm assuming you're talking about the PG tips ad.

I shall get a wee fotie of him beside the Monkey after we beat Dundee.
mortonjag 2008-04-05 11:12:28
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Apr 5 2008, 10:40 AM) [snapback]430134[/snapback]
Cheers Mortonjag.

Throughout the book the author refers to Collins' insistence he was 5' 3 and a half"

I also remember his c*cky smile-not arrogant but just a look that said 'I'm a winner'!
mortonjag 2008-04-05 11:20:32
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 5 2008, 10:06 AM) [snapback]430112[/snapback]
MJ , you are a font of knowledge!

Well I must confess to a bit of plagiarism there, though the Creamola Custard company was once owned by the Hetherington family, and Miss Hetherington was my young sister's Brown Owl in the Kilmacolm Guides! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-05 11:23:23
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 4 2008, 11:48 PM) [snapback]430027[/snapback]
No, but sometimes she has my ashtray on her back!

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I'm surprised that you smoke!
mortonjag 2008-04-05 11:28:14
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Apr 5 2008, 11:21 AM) [snapback]430148[/snapback]
Whether he is or not depends on whether the £340,000 would have been payable anyway. I suspect that if the club folded, they would not get that money and so the administrator is simply using 'found' money to keep it going a bit longer in the hope of concluding negotiations with one of the parties interested in taking over.

If the money would have been payable whether they concluded their playing programme or not, then the administrator is imho playing with fire and seriously prejudicing the creditors' interest.

I think my first scenario is closer to the truth i.e. that the money is only available if they complete their programme.

That would seem to make sense, but if it was so clear cut, and genuinely in the interests of the SPL, AND the creditors, why has it taken so many 'crisis meetings' and apparent jiggery pokery before they splashed out?
mortonjag 2008-04-05 11:35:18
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Apr 5 2008, 11:24 AM) [snapback]430150[/snapback]
I agree something to teach future generations of our heritage is long overdue.
I would love to have seen a fully functioning maritime museum placed next to the Custom House at the East India Harbour area.
A building with all our history documented, piracy, navy, the highland clearances, the slave trade and the many merchant operations that have operated from here.
All this would be shaped on a walk through time, with as much interactive components as possible.
Original or replica boats and ships in the dock areas of a wide rage, cutters, 3 masters, navy and pirate ships etc for the public to board and experience life at sea over the centuries, eating establishments, a pub and shops all as authentic as possible and designed to reflect what used to be here.
If someone with vision, and I for one can't see our council ever looking at this type of scheme, was ever to come up with something like this it could prove a major boost to our local economy.
You mention Liverpool docks, and the work carried out there was excellent, but I was amazed to see the transformation at Salford Quays in Greater Manchester which is a fantastic place to visit, with something for every age group to enjoy. And a lot of this was done with lottery cash, why can't we do it?

Greenock has a huge heritage compared to many provincial Scottish towns, and seems to do nothing to perpetuate the memories.

Even Coatbridge-which in truth is a scabby little place-has a heritage museum commemorating its history as an 'Iron Town'.
mortonjag 2008-04-05 11:37:12
QUOTE(MrX @ Apr 4 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]429968[/snapback]
In the games I've watched, Russell has run aboot like a headless chicken and did very little else. Willliams' extra curricula activities aside, what does Russell have to his game that Williams didn't have....... he can't score, works hard, does f*ck all else. Forget about the attitudes, and I'd personally rather have Williams. Never gonna happen though, so I'm a bit pished and don't know why I started this thread.

LEAFY will come good. He will score today against Dundee for starters!
mortonjag 2008-04-05 11:40:35
QUOTE(capitanus @ Apr 5 2008, 11:36 AM) [snapback]430155[/snapback]
MortonJug,

for someone who is dead against Poofery, that was a pretty gay thing for you to say.



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mortonjag 2008-04-05 11:53:03 Fundamentalist and Mr Pointment-both £10 e.w.

I don't back horses for the rest of the year mind! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-05 11:54:28
QUOTE(C B @ Apr 5 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]430166[/snapback]
I think in every thread today (exg for effect) you've said we're going to beat Dundee !

If you're right, i'll buy the Monkey a new organ (the grinding type - no a kidney) wink.gif



Relax CB-it's all sorted!
mortonjag 2008-04-06 06:48:02 Back to the usual old hat I see-all we need is a decent striker and we'll be hunky dory.

The delivery yesterday was F*CKING ABYSMAL, and you expect folk to 'strike'!

Sorry folks but in many ways we'd have been better off yesterday with two average first division wingers that the huffing and puffing of Jimbo and Kev. Pantaloon's throw ins caused more danger than any of our deliveries including those from corners and set pieces (listening Scotty?).

OK-we can perhaps blame JM, but a striker is in NO way the priority.

mortonjag 2008-04-06 07:02:27
QUOTE(tontric @ Apr 5 2008, 09:58 PM) [snapback]430512[/snapback]
Correct. Great flick as well. Thought Paartalu looked good. Didn't really do anything flash but did the simple things well. If everyone else did the same we wouldn't be in our current predicament.

Wise words-the big man's almost lethargic composure, simple first touch flicks and passes, and incredible throw ins, offered more than all the huffing and puffing of Jimbo and Kev put together.

Yet again McGuffie had a much better game alongside him, while Midge was quiet by his standards.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 07:07:35
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 5 2008, 09:27 PM) [snapback]430489[/snapback]
big difference. Walter Smith is the MANAGER of Rangers. Douglas Rae is the CHAIRMAN of Morton.

It's a bit like comparing pineapple with cabbage.



Or an orange with a jobby.

QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 5 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]430495[/snapback]
In

Feck McInally deserved most of the criticism he got and so does DDFR for his backing of the guy .

Dougie paising Celtic fans for being the best in Scotland , absolute bollocks , the man had a chance to retract his statement when Toby asked the question and refused . It will always be a blight on his tenure as chairman .

The Sons of William have always been like this its nothing new . They can't sing their party tunes at home or away and they don't have any songs to sing now.

Celtic fans will revert to type if Rangers clinch the title at Celtic Park .

His tenure as Chairman will indeed always be a blight.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 07:10:36
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Apr 5 2008, 06:38 PM) [snapback]430354[/snapback]
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QUOTE(Bryan @ Apr 5 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]430476[/snapback]
Iain "offside" Russell rolleyes.gif



QUOTE(tontric @ Apr 5 2008, 10:58 PM) [snapback]430561[/snapback]
Think you need to polish that crystal ball of yours !!! wink.gif

Gentlemen, as the last poster commented LEAFY produced a true striker's effort which had Sampson well beaten. The boy was only on for twenty minutes, so averaging things out he DEFINITELY scored yesterday! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-06 07:13:30 Rae was definitely accusing Stu of cheating, and the big man mouthed back at him. Rae was then cautioned by the ref on the Linesman's advice.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 07:20:17
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 5 2008, 11:50 PM) [snapback]430579[/snapback]
Jim Mcalister by an absolute mile, he was a class above anyone on the pitch today. special Mention to Partaluu (sp?) and to Finlayson for being as shocking as deego suggests for once.

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QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 6 2008, 01:35 AM) [snapback]430628[/snapback]
i thought millar was good and was our most composed midfielder on the ball. didnt do anything fantastic but kept the game ticking along nicely for us and dont remember a time he lost possession of the ball.

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You have been on the port again darling. Midge was virtually invisible yesterday, and it's Jimbo's LACK of class that let's down all the good donkey work.

PANTALOONS-downright winner.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 07:26:50 Robinson 6
MacGregor 5
Harding 7
Greacen 7
Partaalu 8
McLaughlin 5
McGuffie 7
Millar 5
Finlayson 4
McAllister 7
Weatherson 4


Wake 1

LEAFY 10
mortonjag 2008-04-06 07:31:05
QUOTE(SPL AND WE @ Apr 6 2008, 03:06 AM) [snapback]430648[/snapback]
GOING DOWN AGAIN. laugh.gif

HOPELESS AND SOAPLESS. laugh.gif

Only if the SPL change the rules at the last minute ya f*ckin loser-and with the SPL anything can happen.

FFS even GRETNA scored yesterday in their HUMPING! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-06 07:48:51
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Apr 5 2008, 06:07 PM) [snapback]430302[/snapback]
Davie Irons has got this team playing with fire in their bellies and with a real passion, which is something that's been missing at the club for far too long.

I came away today feeling better about the club's future than I have for a long time, despite such a sickening result. There wasn't a failure amongst those players today, Weatherson aside who I genuinely believe gave his all but his off field activities are obvioulsy hampering his contributions on the park.

Apart from the unfortunate blunder which led to the first goal our back line was solid with Greacen and Harding being absolute rocks, it was no shame losing to a team like Dundee who have real quality throughout their side. Other than the goals they never gave them a look in until we started pouring men forward in the closing stages.

Scott McLaughlin rarely put a foot wrong yet was subjected to abuse from the usual suspects who seem unable to give credit when it's due. My advice to Scott is to simply ignore it as just about everyone in the area I was standing could see he was having a decent game yet one or two go out their way to heckle him regardless. Free kicks aside - he's got to stop taking them.

Ryan McGuffie and Partalu by and large snuffed out the threat of McDonald. That's the McGuffie I recall from Gretna, a real powerhouse, driving his team on and showing a real desire to win. Another transformed by the obvious influence of Irons. Held the team together in the middle and got through an absolute power of work off the ball. My concern when talking to a few lads today was the more blinkered among us still won't recognise his contribution.

Finlayson and McAlister as usual worked like trojans although as usual they lacked quality in their final ball.

This team's really coming together now. They're organised, fighting for one another and showing renewed belief and that's down to one man - Davie Irons. Not to mention his tactical nous seems to be impeccable.

I've no worries he'll keep us up - be it through the play offs or otherwise - and once has a chance to really stamp his authority on the squad the rest of the league better watch out. wink.gif

Sorry for waffling but it's been a long time since I've felt so optimistic about the future.

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It's comments like those which have a habit of coming back to haunt you Bob. The truth is that DI appears to be doing a pretty good job with the resources he has, but please let's wait a little before hailing our new Mourinho!



QUOTE(cornbeef @ Apr 5 2008, 06:31 PM) [snapback]430346[/snapback]
Irons may be the man - but he was far too slow to replace Peter who wasn't at the races.( I would stop short of blaming 'off field activities' - which is a recurring theme from Largston I believe.) I have a lot of regard for Peter as a player but he was getting nowhere today and Irons gambled by keeping him on and it didn't work.
Agree that we look a more solid outfit and that better things could be ahead.

I was very surprsed last week. On a heavy pitch in foul wind and rain, he didn't bring on 'fresh legs' at all. Today I thought LEAFY should have been on 10 minutes into the second half.
QUOTE(tontric @ Apr 5 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]430541[/snapback]
Agree again Chrissiboi. McGuffie doesn't do it for me and definitely didn't do it today. He was poor and has been since he signed.

Not sure what you mean about not understanding Greacen though. Seems to me like its pretty obvious what has happened. Irons and Collins (who were both good defenders) have come in and told him what he has to do. It's what coaches should do and from our recent performances it has become really clear that our previous management team were incapable of doing it.

A man sees what he wants to see. McGuffie and Pantaloons did a helluvalot against Queens, and again yesterday when, if anybody went missing, it was Midge.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 08:00:31 unsure.gif


Drunken eejits of all persuasions should not be associated with football supporters.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 08:04:05
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 5 2008, 09:52 PM) [snapback]430509[/snapback]
Peter did have a poor game today. But he will win more balls in the air than Wake ever will, and score more.

I'll go as far as to say Wake is one of the worst players I have ever seen in a Morton shirt. And that's with over 30 years of watching Morton....

Make that 80 between us Claymore!
mortonjag 2008-04-06 08:12:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 6 2008, 07:03 AM) [snapback]430677[/snapback]
You cannot be serious. Compare Weatherson's miss with the way Dundee took their chances. If Weatherson was a striker he would have buried that one and we might just have gone on to win the game.
Spoonsy never was and never will be a striker.

DE- it's quite ridiculous to claim a striker as A PRIORITY, when we've NO full backs, NO wingers, only two central defenders, and STILL NO motivator. No striker can 'strike' without a supply-and Aye-Peter could have done better today.

Oh, and while I remember-


SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A STRIKER
mortonjag 2008-04-06 08:13:44
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 6 2008, 07:16 AM) [snapback]430681[/snapback]
I've noticed that Russell always beats the keeper when he shoots wide. Try as they may, keepers just can't reach them. biggrin.gif

unsure.gif Wasn't wide from our perspective! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-06 08:15:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 6 2008, 07:30 AM) [snapback]430684[/snapback]
laugh.gif I don't follow your scoring method. In the MotM thread you've stated that 'Pantaloons' is a 'downright winner'.

Perhaps I lied.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 08:17:45
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 6 2008, 08:12 AM) [snapback]430692[/snapback]
The most appreciable difference in the team since the arrival of Irons and Collins is that we are now more difficult to beat. Unfortunately, we still find it well nigh impossible to win games. The team remains in my opinion, one of the worst (bar administration and the periods immediately before and after) I've seen in over 40 years. I fear we've left it too late to escape relegation, but I hope to hell I'm wrong.

Stop it-Tonsilitis will have an acute exacerbation of gout!
mortonjag 2008-04-06 08:19:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 6 2008, 08:15 AM) [snapback]430696[/snapback]
laugh.gif Then sue your optician.

Don't imagine everyone is like yourself Sir!
mortonjag 2008-04-06 08:21:35
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 6 2008, 08:07 AM) [snapback]430689[/snapback]
Aye it's easy o blame Robinson but had Weatherson scored his early and dare I say it easy chance to put us two up, the game would've been entirely different. Yes Robinson's throw out was bad but those playing upfront, in particular Weatherson failed to protect the guys at the back by again giving the ball away too easily. Our failure to keep the ball and score goals has been our biggest problem.

If ye look oot yer windae ye'll see snaw! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-06 08:24:35
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 6 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]430701[/snapback]
I'm neither litigious nor 'visually impaired'.

....earn £5,000.000p.a. selling the Big Issue, and live in one of Pimpledick's rented bed sits and a hair shirt.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 08:25:54
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 6 2008, 08:22 AM) [snapback]430702[/snapback]
Indeed I do.

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Bet it's no snawin doon the watter;)
mortonjag 2008-04-06 08:27:56
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 6 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]430699[/snapback]
The sole reason Livvi and Clyde are pulling away from us is because they can score goals. Whilst we have been able to keep them out of late we have no-one that can stick them away for us. If we had brought in a good forward instead of Wake I have no doubt we would be safe in the first division by now. McAllister is our only hope for goals and should start upfront probably with Russell. It's an absolute disgrace that Weatherson is the Captain of the team.

.....but I thought DI had things sorted!
mortonjag 2008-04-06 08:28:25
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 6 2008, 08:26 AM) [snapback]430706[/snapback]
Sure it's no.

WIMP!
mortonjag 2008-04-06 08:35:00
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Apr 5 2008, 06:57 PM) [snapback]430383[/snapback]
MJ, I suffer from a mild form of Asthma, one which requires a repeat prescription once a month which over the past 20 years has cost me a good few bob.

I for one applaud any move to reduce and finally abolish the charges levied on the public as in most cases the low paid are the worst hit as is the norm.

I do agree that a mandate should be met, but we all know the 'adjustments' that go on in politics, at least unlike the previous Labour/Liberal poodle powered alliance this Government are at least trying to make life easier for the less well off in society. It won't all go smoothly, but they are proving more and more everday that we benefit from not having a political animal based in London making every decision.

You're not saying anything I haven't said Barbarossa. I've applauded the concept of abolishing an anomalous and much abused system, and I've asked why the chronic and terminally ill have not been the first to advantage if it is to be staged.

I think there has been a misunderstanding of the term 'CHRONIC', which simply means an ongoing illness like diabetes, or asthma.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 08:39:28
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Apr 5 2008, 10:24 PM) [snapback]430542[/snapback]
I worked in a Hospice and my Father ,Mother in law,Father in Law and two Aunts died in a prolonged and distressing way. So sorry. Yes I do agree with humane help to end suffering when there is no cure.

Just waiting for the first post rubbishing you 'because you're biased'! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-06 08:44:25
QUOTE(cappielow-doc @ Apr 5 2008, 10:43 PM) [snapback]430555[/snapback]
Yes i do research the information as soon as i know of an increase in prices either from Scottish Power or from one of our competitors,id be stupid not to,you never know who your talking to when you chap a door,after all the customer might have researched before deciding to change in the first place.

On the subject of "informed consent,and its legal implications"let me quote from a letter to all advisors from S.P.via Energysure dated 1st June 2003 which i carry at all times in my presenter,informing us what would happen if we told lies at the door.

you are also advised that,in these cicumstances,your name would be removed from the Energysure database and the case may be referred to the police for investigation.

If this is what you mean,then yes i am acquainted and as i have a mortgage and bills i cant afford to tell lies and be found out and lose my job and the financial benefits it brings.As i have stated in a previous post i dont have to tell lies because the majority of customers i visit have been mis-informed from fly guys from our competitors and are only too willing to stay with S.P.having seen the evidence for themselves.Of about 100 doors i chap every week i earn enough to resort to dis-honesty to earn my living,and a nice living it is too,thank you very much.

From what you say, you are indeed a fastidious chap who takes immense care never to be caught out with mistakes.

I applaud you and all like you.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 08:58:27
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Apr 6 2008, 12:08 AM) [snapback]430583[/snapback]
Or do most think they are a burden..

I suggest it may depend on ones age!

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Apr 6 2008, 12:55 AM) [snapback]430607[/snapback]
The ones who clog up supermarkets by using them as chatroooms are immensely frustrating.
I know you shouldn't, but at times it can be difficult not to get annoyed at some old people.

I couldn't agree more-those who flaunt decrepitude are to be abhorred. I have yet to be beaten by any young brat in a souped up hot hatch-just love when they put themselves off the road and double their insurance in one fell swoop, and that's only one example.

How I pity the 'Wham, bang, thank you Mam' energy of the youthful plooked ones, who usually end up coming before they've left.

Little ones, Mortonjag could go on-you don't know you're not living yet! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-06 09:15:10
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 6 2008, 09:07 AM) [snapback]430714[/snapback]
It was nothing to do with me

Alcohol induced paranoia is a sorry condition!
mortonjag 2008-04-06 09:18:45
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Apr 6 2008, 01:07 AM) [snapback]430611[/snapback]
An old wummin in Motherwell called me a feni@n. F*ck them all.

Which was correct?
mortonjag 2008-04-06 10:07:13
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 6 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]430720[/snapback]
I've absolutely no recollection of writing that last night

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mortonjag 2008-04-06 11:41:45
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Apr 6 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]430724[/snapback]
I'm supremely confident they won't. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Apr 6 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]430726[/snapback]
I was having the same conversation with my son yesterday. We concluded that because we have seen what he can do on his game previously, he is worth another season to let Irons try yto get the best out of him. The worry is that he goes to another side like Thistle or queens and starts banging them in again big time - something most of us think he is capable of. He has just not shown it for a long time.

On the criticism of Finlayson and McLaughlin, I just don't get it. Both make mistakes and both do more right than wrong and yesterday Finalyson was our most dangerous forward over the 90 minutes. Both contribute a lot to the team and some of the critics want to open their eyes to that.

Sounds like a striker!
mortonjag 2008-04-06 11:49:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 6 2008, 11:05 AM) [snapback]430736[/snapback]
These are exactly the priorities I, and many others identified at the end of last season. The song remains the same.

All the strikers in the world won't make up for a lack of decent balls into the box. To put it differently, Graham, Spoonsy, and LEAFY, WOULD get goals if the supply was right. Our wing play is non existent, and if we're going to increase our options we need at least one PROPER winger.

I'm not arguing about the rest. We also still DESPERATELY need an experienced motivator, preferably to skipper the side.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 11:55:27
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 6 2008, 11:48 AM) [snapback]430749[/snapback]
Or maybe a lazy, unfit, underachiever who's only tolerated because we haven't got a better option.

David Irons chooses lazy, unfit, underachiever to captain the side! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-06 11:57:26 I thought Chris had a rather poor game yesterday. If he plays next Saturday, I'm sure he'll pull out the stops, but Jenkins should be fit, so who drops out?
mortonjag 2008-04-06 11:59:51
QUOTE(cappielowking @ Apr 6 2008, 11:57 AM) [snapback]430754[/snapback]
Fans having a go at a manager removing one they don't like how much of a suprise is that. Dougie Rae's magical Celtic fans theyre having a go at Strachan wanting him to be removed. Dougie Rae hasnae menetioned that wonder why. The Celtic fans want to remove Strachan and replace him with Tony Mowbray even though he has got them into the Last 16 of the champions league two years running. Old Firm Fans are never happy their too far above their station protentious b*****ds. What was wrong with us having a go at a manager who took 3 years to get out of a division were way to big for not showing any passion just wall leaning. Also in the process putting us in our present f***ed position.

Douglas Rae occasionally speaks sense I'm told.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 12:07:21
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Apr 6 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]430755[/snapback]
Can't say much about Graham as he doesn't get enough games to show what he's capable of but neither Weatherson or Offside are likely to be prolific in the 1st irrespective of supply.

That's clearly an opinion, and it depends very much on what you mean by prolific.

Both LEAFY and Spoonsy are capable of scoring a fair few goals at Division 1 level. I think our fans have largely resigned themselves to the ABSOLUTELY ABYSMAL service which is the norm those days at Cappielow.

Answer this honestly-how many DECENT crosses go into the box in an average game?

Furthermore it's reprehensible that we don't seem to have one midfielder with the wit to release a through ball properly.

JM's legacy is with us.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 12:12:14
QUOTE(cappielowking @ Apr 6 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]430760[/snapback]
Just one thing I will always be grateful to Dougie for saving us from extinction.

Rae did that because he wanted to. Rae does NOT do things BECAUSE the fans want them done.

It's a bit like saying' 'I will always be grateful to my Mother for bringing me into the world, despite the fact that she's abused me ever since'.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 12:21:25
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Apr 6 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]430771[/snapback]
Jenkins in for McGuffie, Mortonjag.

McGuffie has been OK in his last two games. Plenty of good stuff yesterday-he's a player you tend not to notice-quietly effective-just the opposite of Kev who is patently ineffective 75% of the time.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 12:22:44
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 6 2008, 12:14 PM) [snapback]430772[/snapback]
Aye, makes me wonder. Again, maybe only because there isn't a better option.

Greacen wasn't a BAD captain.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 12:25:03
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 6 2008, 12:17 PM) [snapback]430773[/snapback]
ma burd cares aboot me

Are you old?
mortonjag 2008-04-06 17:44:17
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 6 2008, 12:41 PM) [snapback]430786[/snapback]
Well suddenly everything makes sense tongue.gif

My mother is a lovely person. As you very well know I devoted two months to making her a spanking new kitchen.

Fing is on his way to get you.

Pink botty time beckons.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 17:56:47
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Apr 6 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]430778[/snapback]
There's no doubt that service could be improved and you would hope that good forwards would benefit from that. However when Russell arrived the consistent comment from Brechin fans was that he didn't know the offside rule and that he'd miss far more good chances than he'll ever put away. Both of those comments are appear to be correct. To get caught offside so often suggests that he he is either lacking in intelligence or pace or both and forwards need to have one of those. To fail to put away chances when they come equally suggests that his skill as a striker is also fairly questionable and I think he's probably gone a division above his ability.

Weatherson is more disappointing as he clearly is a far better finisher but his all round fitness lets him down year after year. I doubt that after 5 seasons of not being able to maintain a decent level of fitness he is likely to change and it's more likely that whatever pace he has will reduce.

I agree that having a good midfileder who can release the right pass is important and sadly Stevenson who had that ability seems to have lost his way. However I doubt that either of our front 2 have the pace to exploit good service often enough to frighten too many defences in the first. If you add to them Templeman (no pace) and Linn (not much pace) then our record of signing forwards in recent times is pretty woeful. Hopefully Irons will do something about that.

It's quite simple-LEAFY both has pace and is intelligent.
Those are facts so you'll have to look elsewhere for reasons. Perhaps you could consider that like so many others whom we've signed in a 'blaze of publicity' he's never been played in a settled role.

Furthermore the Brechin fans were gutted to lose him. What they DID say was that-aye-he got caught offside as often as not but he was still well worth his place for his chance grabbing ability.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 18:00:14
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Apr 6 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]430879[/snapback]
Robinson 6- Must take a large share of the blame for the equaliser after a poor goal-kick, but otherwise a pretty solid display.

McGregor 8- Didn't put a foot wrong all game and won everything that required

McLaughlin 7- Solid performance and unlucky not to score for the second week running having hit the woodwork

Millar 7- Like McLaughlin, plenty of endeavour and a strong performance

Greacen 7- Comfortable performance, confidence seems to be returning which will be important in the end of the season (probably in the play-offs)

Harding 8- Very composed performance from Harding.

Finlayson 7- Lots of toil and work, but didn't get an awful lot of joy apart from persevering to set-up Weatherson

McGuffie 7- Quiet first half, but if you watch him on an individual level, his positioning is excellent and he was rarely beaten in the air all game. To be honest I think he is suffering the same way Templeman did when he first arrived because his languid style is mistaken for laziness.

Weatherson 6- Should have scored in the first half and other than that had a pretty quiet game. If we are going to line up with one central striker flanked by Kev and Jim next week, I would seriously consider playing Wake through the middle

Paartalu 8- Set up Jim's opener and worked like a trojan for the 90 minutes. Cracking long-throws are better than our corners and should be used to good effect against teams. Both he and McGuffie definately had the better of the Dundee midfield.

McAllister 8- Took his goal extremely well and looks a much more dangerous proposition when played in the more advanced and central role. The fact that both he and Finlayson are probably the fittest, quickest and most hard-working players in the team means that they are excellent at tracking back when playing in a more advanced role.

Davie had a fair game with his two or three usual gaffes! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-06 18:08:50
QUOTE(nani @ Apr 6 2008, 02:39 PM) [snapback]430832[/snapback]
Agree with Mr Edwards. It was a committed performance but we never looked like winning after they equalised. Weatherson was poor and unable to hold the ball up. However he was on his own and I fail to understand why we are persisting with 1 up when we need to win games.With Clyde to play Stirling at home it seems we will probably need at least 7 pts if not 9 from 9 to avoid the play offs. Given that we seem unable to score with any frequency and are still liable to glaring errors at the back I fail to see where the original posters confidence is emanating from. Oh and MJ....you got it wrong again....unfortunately.

We deserved to win, we could have won, and we SHOULD have won. Yet again, in the face of strong vocal support from the Dee lot, our fans were relatively muted compared to the hearty united voice at Palmerston last week.

They are the ones who got it wrong. Mortonjag is never wrong.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 18:12:39
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 6 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]430846[/snapback]
look how much better he's got since he hasn't had the weight of being captain on his shoulders, he can finally just concentrate on being a decent defender who does the basics right, and its working out well for him.

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If you check back darling, you'll find that I made exactly that point (about the Captaincy being too much for him) well over a year ago, and was, as always, 'rubished'.

I have never suggested he's a GOOD captain! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-06 18:19:19 The clock is symbolic of our current position-f*cked inner workings and stuck between one and two.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 18:20:13 Queer.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 18:26:09
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 6 2008, 12:24 PM) [snapback]430776[/snapback]
Is the fact that you're even asking this question not a good argument against euthanasia?

How easy it would be for a family to pressurise a vulnerable old person into ending their life prematurely by telling them they've become a burden.

Even more sinister could be families doing it to get their greedy hands on their inheritance a bit sooner than God or nature intended.

The morality of Pimpledick in a sentence! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-06 18:29:51
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 6 2008, 02:53 PM) [snapback]430835[/snapback]
cappielow-doc, it seems like it's in fact n-power who are guilty of the scams MJ is accusing you and SP of.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/busi...icle3689797.ece

I think MJ just likes to tar everyone with the same brush to be confrontational. Don't let him wind you up pal, you don't have to justify how you earn a living to him or anyone else on here for that matter.

Pimpledick's morality in a sentence! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-06 18:35:07
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 6 2008, 06:23 PM) [snapback]430897[/snapback]
I await Fing with open arms tongue.gif

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Sometimes jocularity is out of place young man-your signature will soon have a partner. Fing has spoken.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 18:42:36
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 6 2008, 06:24 PM) [snapback]430898[/snapback]
Well its a fact in the sense we all have pace, only to varying degrees. As to how much pace he has and indeed how much pace he needs to succeed at this level is both relative and subjective, not fact. As to whether or not he is intelligent, well I have never met the man nor have I any knowledge as to his academic qualifications or interests away from football and I suspect neither do you therefore it is not "fact" that he is intelligent only your opinion.

Can you never get anything right Ratarse. LEAFY is a bright lad and is currently half way through a college course.

As for pace-who at Cappielow could out sprint him over fifty yards except Shoogly in a scramble?
mortonjag 2008-04-06 20:23:12
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 6 2008, 07:04 PM) [snapback]430917[/snapback]
Jim McAllister for starters.

So that's Shoogly and Jimbo-who else?
mortonjag 2008-04-06 20:26:00
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Apr 6 2008, 07:22 PM) [snapback]430926[/snapback]
By my reckoning, there are eight squad players out of contract this season - McGurn, Greacen, Harding, Finlayson, McLaughlin, Keenan, Gilbride and Walker - and the only ones I would even consider keeping are Harding and Walker. The rest have proven that, over a full season, they are not good enough for this level. I would also say the Club should buy out the contracts of McAnespie, Wake and Stevenson for the same reason.

TBH, my worry is that if we do go down we'll be tempted to offer some or all of these underachievers new contracts in an effort to get us back to the First at the first time of asking. This would be a mistake, as it has to be remembered most of these guys took four attempts to get us into the First and they certainly wouldn't keep us there even if they did succeed at the first time of asking this time. Better to take the hit now I say. I reckon we could see around 10 players leaving for pastures new in the summer. East Stirling anyone? smile.gif

I agree about Walker-strange how he can't seem to get a place when he's a better full back/midfielder than McGregor and McLaughlin!
mortonjag 2008-04-06 20:36:07
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Apr 6 2008, 08:02 PM) [snapback]430938[/snapback]
When? I honestly can't remember any major gaffes yesterday from Davie.

It was a fluffed clearance by McGregor straight to a Dundee player which led to Robinson's equally fluffed clearance which led to their first goal. More than once apart from that, when under no real pressure he just booted the ball upfield straight into the path of an oncoming opponent.
I've said it before-Davie is quite good at everything, and not very good at anything. I believe he gets undue praise and support because he's a good guy with a good attitude, but IMHO he's not division 1 material-FAR too slow for a start.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 20:48:57
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 6 2008, 08:21 PM) [snapback]430954[/snapback]
All it means NewTon is that I'm one of the very few sad bassas who actually read the bollox that you post. tongue.gif

Most people prefer the 'What are you/who are you? type threads, pimpleknob, but you have taste.

Sometimes I quite like you.
mortonjag 2008-04-07 06:36:12
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 6 2008, 10:32 PM) [snapback]431011[/snapback]
i expect he might be quite good at the long jump too huh.gif

and surely it's the opposition he needs to out-sprint?

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QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 6 2008, 10:36 PM) [snapback]431012[/snapback]
See how things change in football , never thought I'd be championing the calamity brothers but there recent displays show that they are better under Irons and if he had been here earlier we may have hd a better return .

Fullbacks are a must , and so are 2 strikers , a goalkeeper , another centre back to give options .

IMHO we need the strikers more than any wide player , from what I've watched recently there is simply not enough workrate from our current options .

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mortonjag 2008-04-07 06:44:31
QUOTE(kingtiffin @ Apr 6 2008, 10:58 PM) [snapback]431016[/snapback]
just heard that we have nock back a local team who are in the semi final of the scottish cup at under 19s and the game needs to be play at a senior ground. the offical statement was that after next weeks game they would be doing work on the ground the game is to be next sunday so the team have lost home advantage and the game goes to rugby park next sunday . this now adds more insults to the local teams when they are have a major day and they cant be help out shame on you all at the high level at cappielow. and when you run your under 19s next year i hope the 7 boys who could play for you tell you were to go, no wonder there is no youth coming our way, hang your heads in shame.

Forget all those clowns who as usual have knee jerked in support of the Club Kingtiffin.

PLEASE attempt to get a copy of Morton's response scanned and posted here. IF what you say is true, and ESPECIALLY if this favour was requested by an ex Morton player, it is is further evidence of the arrogant aloofness I've come to expect from the skint sugar Daddy.

mortonjag 2008-04-07 06:46:59
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 6 2008, 08:44 PM) [snapback]430962[/snapback]
robinson had the ball in his hands, dropped it and then kicked it out straight to their player. didn't he? you make me doubt myself more than any one man should MJ.

Your post is a direct result of your father's orgasm.
mortonjag 2008-04-07 06:50:48
QUOTE(stuart @ Apr 6 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]430986[/snapback]
Even our Rae was standing up and shouting by the looks of it, it must have been bad.

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You misunderstand-he was just grabbing the opportunity to pass some instructions to Davie Irons.
mortonjag 2008-04-07 06:55:17
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 6 2008, 09:11 PM) [snapback]430971[/snapback]
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Another funny thing happened yesterday. Dak, my fiancee returned for a 2nd match (more fool her). I thought she was feeling a bit cold so I went and got her a bovril. I said to her ''this drink, it's name is Bovvrill, you like'' ? and she replied...... ''Buffalo'' ???

Bos-bubalis =buffalo


Bos bovis = Bovril

Both derived from the Latin for 'Coo' WDE.

Do they study Latin in Thai schools? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-07 06:59:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 7 2008, 02:08 AM) [snapback]431068[/snapback]
i started at seven

7 am or 7 pm ?

centimetres.
mortonjag 2008-04-07 07:03:35
QUOTE(Muz @ Apr 6 2008, 11:08 PM) [snapback]431025[/snapback]
Was down at the battery this morning, watched the Under 17's against Clyde (massive team- what they feed them up there?)

Not ONE representative from Morton there- Jamie Stevenson was meant to take the team as far as I knew, and didnt turn up for one reason or another. Something to do with he's been told he wont be taking the team next year?

Some really good wee players in the Morton team- centre half number 5 (Jason something?) in particular and also wee Jamie Doc at right back, had great games.

Saddens me that there was NO coaches, compared to the Clyde bench with 3-4 coaches.

Anyone know anymore on this?

Was 1-0 to Clyde at half time when I left.

I'm led to believe there may have been a change in plans.If so WHY was the new system not in evidence.

Is it all just 'wait and see' right now? That sounds like a 'cop out' to me!

Get it sorted SHOOGLY/IRONS-whoever is in charge this time. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-07 07:18:04 Twelve hours on and not another post. I think Loyal Lass can safely assume that the majority of our posting genii have no interest in the elderly. That makes me very sad and VERY angry-do they imagine everybody over the age of sixty to be like Douglas Rae or Moira Salmond?

Oh well ---time for another drug crazed rampage through Shawlands knocking down everything in a baseball cap with one of their sticks.

Off to check Moby's battery.

mortonjag 2008-04-07 07:24:02
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 6 2008, 09:55 PM) [snapback]430998[/snapback]
I put 3 GBP each way on Comply or Die and accepted the odds when the race started - how does that work, is it 3GBP on a win at the odds plus I lose the other 3GBP because it placed first??

What should I get back from the bookies?

£3 x 7 = £21 + £ 3 =£ 24 for the win.

Most bookies pay 1/5th odds for a places 1, 2, 3,and 4 on large field handicaps--so also

£3 x 7/5 = £4.20 + £ 3 = £7.20

Total back should be £31.20.
mortonjag 2008-04-07 07:27:39
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 7 2008, 12:36 AM) [snapback]431049[/snapback]
i love how you keep choosing to forget how you said you were going to London when you blatantly weren't, you even said people had misunderstood until someone found exactly what you said and then you ignored that post funnily enough. tongue.gif
London couldn't have been that good if you cant even remember going sad.giftongue.gif

Listen tootsie, as the prosecution, you're obliged to provide the evidence.


Now run of and find my blatantly 'tongue in cheek' comment, and paste it here. You may go to the toilet first if you wish. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-07 07:29:35
QUOTE(forza ton @ Apr 7 2008, 01:36 AM) [snapback]431062[/snapback]
i always found roger graham to be a nice geezer huh.gif
i feel sorry for c***s who have to sell a company's wares to earn a corn. t mobile tried it with me but as a socialist type i refused.... and took a 2 month sabbatical on full pay at the bequest of my doc. i hope their lawyers are watching. f***ing c***s. viva la quinta brigada

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You've got a tame quack then? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-07 07:32:36
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 6 2008, 09:52 PM) [snapback]430996[/snapback]
I don't - it was a joke doctor jag

Why didn't you say Ps3 then?
I'm led to believe that over energetic coitus may result in smoking, but have no personal experience of such.
mortonjag 2008-04-07 07:34:40 PUFE IN BOOTS
mortonjag 2008-04-07 07:39:57
QUOTE(SPL AND WE @ Apr 7 2008, 01:59 AM) [snapback]431064[/snapback]
IS HE FROM GREENOCK?

Yes of course he is you AIDS ridden skeleton, and jealousy will get you nowhere.

mortonjag 2008-04-07 08:15:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 7 2008, 07:50 AM) [snapback]431099[/snapback]
do they imagine everybody over the age of sixty to be like Douglas Rae or Moira Salmond?
or do they imagine everybody over the age of sixty to be like mortonjag ???

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Or do they have ANY imagination at all? sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-07 08:42:15
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 7 2008, 07:55 AM) [snapback]431103[/snapback]
I believe in the abolition for prescription charges and this is just the first step to achieving that , I fail to see why anyone should be against that.

Well, some folk might perfectly reasonably argue that a properly means tested system of charging for prescription only preparations would bring much needed income to the Health Service.

I believe in the abolition of prescription charges, mainly because the current system is divisive, patently discriminative, and grossly abused. I would, however, like to know whaich area of the Health Service will suffer to pay for the lost revenues, and MORE IMPORTANTLY, I want genuinely needy folk to benefit FIRST, if Sturgeon is having to stage the exercise.

mortonjag 2008-04-07 08:45:03
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 7 2008, 07:49 AM) [snapback]431098[/snapback]
A bear mauled a 50-year-old man to death on Japan's northern island of Hokkaido on the weekend, police said Monday.

Seiichi Horinuki, 50, was picking edible wild plants with one of his colleagues when he was attacked on Sunday afternoon, a police spokesman said.

Bears occasionally attack people gathering plants in rural Japan. This was the first fatal attack in Hokkaido this year, the spokesman said.

Following a request from the local authorities, hunters later shot and killed the brown bear believed to have attacked the man, local media reported.

The number of bears on Hokkaido is estimated to be between 1800 to 3600 and are not threatened there with extinction.

Farmers and other locals sometimes hunt bears in the area where the man was attacked to prevent them from ruining crops and intruding on residential areas.

Why was the bear shot for doing what comes naturally ?

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I have no problem with 'an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth' Newt. That bear should definitely have been mauled to death by a fifty year old flower picker.
mortonjag 2008-04-07 08:46:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 7 2008, 07:52 AM) [snapback]431100[/snapback]
inches ?

millimetres ?

masturbometers?
mortonjag 2008-04-07 08:48:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 7 2008, 07:55 AM) [snapback]431102[/snapback]
"I hope we get to the end of the season with a bit of dignity and pride to leave for whoever, we hope, takes over at the club."

Mick Wadsworth
dignity and pride ? ?

I cannot see them in the same sentence as Brooks Mileson.

Pony Tail has been INCREDIBLY successful in avoiding publicity and flak since this joke of an administration was implemented.

Maybe he's DEID! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-07 08:50:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 7 2008, 08:01 AM) [snapback]431104[/snapback]
Is not Derek Collins in charge ?

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Derek Collins wasn't there! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-07 08:57:38
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 7 2008, 08:36 AM) [snapback]431107[/snapback]
How you know the groundsman doesn't have long put in place plans for that Sunday for working on the pitch? Have you seen our pitch? It is in excellent condition, so surely must be worked on quite regularly.

But of course...any chance to blame Dougie get's your blood flowing to the wrong places!



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Listen bratlet-it's becoming far too common for you to attack MJ for asking PERTINENT questions. Did Shoogly buy you a set of bagpipes for kissing his arse?

I have blamed NOBODY.

A poster has had 'a go' at the club, and I have asked him to paste a copy of the alleged refusal.

IF what he claims is true and Morton have no reasonable excuse, it IS further evidence that RAE gives ne'er a f*ck about anything or anybody but himself.

mortonjag 2008-04-07 09:25:54
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 7 2008, 09:17 AM) [snapback]431116[/snapback]
Can't believe I was accused earlier of 'going to a fancy dress party' when I'm an adult wearing adult shoes!! Grown men wearing gym kit when not exercising seems odd to me. rolleyes.gif

There's the clue!
mortonjag 2008-04-07 09:31:19
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 7 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]431117[/snapback]
And if it isn't true, you still got your wee dig in at Dougie...we're so proud not surprised

'We're so not surprised' are we so not? Well bless my cotton bedsock! And youse studying at a proper University an a'.

QUOTE(cmdc @ Apr 7 2008, 09:21 AM) [snapback]431119[/snapback]
Hasn't the reasonable excuse already been posted? That they are doing work on the ground on the day in question?

I said 'pasted'-NOT 'posted'. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-07 09:33:51
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 7 2008, 09:23 AM) [snapback]431120[/snapback]
Don't you ever get fed up being wrong? tongue.gif

Mortonjag is NEVER wrong. LEAFY was not on for 90 minutes. Mortonjag was cheated.
mortonjag 2008-04-07 09:35:54
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 7 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]431123[/snapback]
Clue?
What?
Eh?

Don't be obtuse McArthur-only weans wear trainers as dress shoes.
mortonjag 2008-04-07 16:33:56
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Apr 7 2008, 01:11 PM) [snapback]431200[/snapback]
And sometimes we have arseholes like this.
http://www.inverclydenow.com/news-detail4.asp?ID=1412
Anyone caught doing this should be put in front of vigilante's in a room to themselves and sort the b*****d out.

....and I'll tell you something Gibby-every generation has its 'baddies' but that would NEVER have been tolerated in my day.

Damian's law!

Birch the brats within an inch of their lives, AND any social worker who squeals in protest! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-13 14:20:18
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 12 2008, 08:15 PM) [snapback]433374[/snapback]
actually, i slipped them a fiver to take the old duffer away tongue.gif

Good afternoon sweet trumpet-you'll be delighted to know that I have slipped them a tenner to let me back out! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-13 14:22:46
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 13 2008, 02:07 AM) [snapback]433521[/snapback]
Too early to ask the question?
We find ourselves here because the head bummer and his manager felt that the team we had were good enough to stay in the first division.

Most of our fans were lulled into a false sense of security during the first quarter of the season, in all subsequent quarters we were in decline.

We changed the management team too late and brought in players who were no better than what we had, in some instances - they were worse.

If we survive in the first division it will be down purely to the effort of David Irons and Derek Collins - Douglas Rae had to change the management team because of McInally's resignation.
In my humble opinion - we need fresh blood at a senior level - that's where true change starts.

The fools should have listened to Mortonjag-will anybody ever learn? Rae is now a liability.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 14:35:59
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 13 2008, 01:31 AM) [snapback]433517[/snapback]
One Davie Irons? That's self evident.
Improvement? Yes.
Massive improvement? You've got to be at the kidding.
I wish Irons and Collins all the best but it's too early to judge (I'm sure the both of them would agree). I wonder if they'll want to stay if we go down. In the meantime, they'll get my support. C'Mon the Ton! We've got to stay in this division, by hook or by crook.

It's less than a year since over 75% has full confidence in JM. Such is the wit of the average Ton fan!

Only time will tell. The target was escaping relegation, and so far the KPI's are poor.

I DO believe DI is motivating the squad better, but the results still ain't coming. Could that indicate that he's no better than JM in other departments? huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-13 14:50:36
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Apr 13 2008, 02:38 PM) [snapback]433685[/snapback]
Motivated or not, Irons is still stuck with JM's squad and it's their lack of quality that has us at the arse-end of the table.

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Well you may have noticed that Mr Irons played Spoonsy up front alone yesterday for 45 precious minutes-AND against Kevin James.

'Fraid it's not quite as simple as you put it. It's FAR too easy to still blame JM, though the deficiencies are not making it easier for the new boys.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 14:57:34
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 13 2008, 02:00 PM) [snapback]433676[/snapback]
Feck the captains armband , none of them are captian material .
Weather son leads by example ??? is that why we are gash ??
MacGregor decent lad but hardly intimidating .

Give it to McGuffie at least that would give him an excuse for being on the park .

We need to win on Saturday no other result will do . At least that would give us a chance on the last day of the season .

Sorry for the rant but its getting that nothing else is worth talking about

If we had a proper captain of the 'do or die' quality we'd have won yesterday-AND at Palmerston, AND at Broadwood etc., etc.

Even when we ARE motivated, we have an amazing ability to run round in circles. We need a leader on the park. David McGregor, incidentally, is not first division quality-nice lad-great work ethic, but no pace, and 'loses it' under pressure.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 15:02:18
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 13 2008, 12:50 PM) [snapback]433647[/snapback]
The Scottish executive, Scottish government, wasters in Edinburgh seem to be looking after the ned vote.

Clicky

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A fatal stab would disnae need any stitches Mr Bam-would the perpetrator go free?

Effin loonies! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-13 15:05:39
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 13 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]433558[/snapback]
Also good to see the SNP cuddling up to Mr Brian Souter. "What was the first thing that attracted you to the millionaire bigot and homophobe Mr Salmond?"

His big shiny ring.

QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Apr 13 2008, 12:19 PM) [snapback]433628[/snapback]
I beg to differ. Can't see independence this side of my 50th birthday.

While there is even a 50/50 split on what the country wants then I can't see the groundswell of change we need. The latest poll taken, with Labour at an all time low in Scotland and the Nationalist cause in the ascendency still shows a half and half interest at best in making change. The only way from here is backwrds me worries.

TonInDublin

Nor I!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 15:15:36
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Apr 13 2008, 03:03 PM) [snapback]433693[/snapback]
Mr Irons took corrective action in the second half to good effect, unfortunately the damage had been done - and by JM's faulty defence if reports are to be believed!

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Up until yesterday everybody seemed to think the defence was 'sorted'. The 'corrective' action resulted in an unspectacular goal from Wakey, and a good penalty from LEAFY after a needless handball. Otherwise Main had f*ck all to do in the second half. Finlayson yet again worked his baws off with no final product as did Jimbo while Walker and Stevenson were virtually unused.

As I've said, time will tell, but I've seen nothing imaginative or tactically innovative since Irons came here. Again yesterday I worried about Robinson's presence in the box-all three St Johnstone goals came from crosses.

IMO what he HAS achieved is a wee bit of self belief, which will hopefully see us through the play offs.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 15:25:19
QUOTE(stubaws @ Apr 12 2008, 05:47 PM) [snapback]433311[/snapback]
yes we were, after the clyde loss we were 9th

davie irons has been a breath of fresh air, was a bit sceptical of the appointment at first but i am delighted we have him and i think if he can get us through the playoffs we could have a right good season next year. within about 5 minutes of being in charge he identified the problems with our squad that jim couldnt over 3 years or however long it was. i am very happy with him in charge, too little too late now though to avoid the playoffs. we need the bottle merchant players to stand up and be counted for if we're to survive them, i aint holding my breath

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QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Apr 12 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]433323[/snapback]
mcinally should have left long, long before he did and irons hasn't really done anything fantastic since he has arrived. Yes i know they are not all players of his choosing but its his choice to keep playing players like weatherson who brings nothing to the team. Playing one useless striker up front when we desperately need the points is not good enough and was glaringly obvious today.


Very true.


QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 12 2008, 07:32 PM) [snapback]433349[/snapback]
if i can play devil's advocate for a moment, i'd point out that davie irons' record is actually worse than mcinally's. ohmy.gif

he's won 1 game from 9 and got 7 points. that would extrapolate to 28 points from 36 games. mcinally won 6 games from 24 and got 24 points. that would extrapolate to 36 points from 36 games. play-off form either way of course. (mcinally's last 9 games were however dire: 1 win and 4 points - automatic relegation form).

our problem is that we can't win games. so far neither can irons (stirling excepted).

he'll get his ultimate test in the play-offs though. results-driven business, anyone? tongue.gif


Indeed.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 15:35:02
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Apr 12 2008, 09:26 PM) [snapback]433433[/snapback]
The Douglas Rae Fund of General Incompetence, if you will please. smile.gif


Disrespectful and inaccurate-the old clown is a past master of cleaning his own dentures.



QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 12 2008, 11:20 PM) [snapback]433485[/snapback]
mortonjag could and would if he was not MIA.

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Mr Rae could indeed be described as a 'basket'.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 16:10:01
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Apr 13 2008, 04:01 PM) [snapback]433719[/snapback]
If we shot them would the streets be safe?
I'd be interested to see the drug offences that are being reduced.

It is indeed a 'cop out'. What ever happened to deterrence?

Birch the little pink botties I say-cheap and effective-oh and if it pleases 'oor maisters' ,we could simultaneously brand said erses with a lion rampant. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-13 16:12:04
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Apr 13 2008, 04:09 PM) [snapback]433723[/snapback]
I once had a till attendant refuse to accept a Scottish note inthe London Natural History Museum cafeteria - I took a bite out of what I'd ordered and said that she would just have to take it back as that was the only money I had! Of course, she accepted the note then laugh.gif

Once bitten-twice shy! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-13 16:16:00
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 13 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]433703[/snapback]
Davie Irons

played 9
won 1
drew 4
Lost 4

the 4 we lost were to the top three teams in the league. three of them were by one goal.

Mcinally's last 9 league games

Played 9
won 1
drew 1
lost 7

the teams Iron's drew with were Livingston, Clyde, Partick and QOS. In Mcinally's last 9 games we were beaten by three of those teams, 6-1, 3-0 at home and 2-1 at home by the worst side at cappielow this season. Not to mention also being beaten again by QOS in the cup.

Not to mention confidence was at an all time low when Iron's came in and had to try and get their confidence up and also the fact that most of the players just aren't good enough.

anyone who thinks that we are not harder to beat is blind, and even the stats show that we are. There has been much improvement considering he's had no tools at his disposure to improve with.

edited to add : the only thing that stopped us from winning the games we drew under Iron's is induvidual errors and missed penalties, something which Iron's has no control over.

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I'm led to believe the Chairman has frequently offered his assistance.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 16:23:04
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 13 2008, 04:19 PM) [snapback]433737[/snapback]
by doing what? giving him the money to sign one Gretna player? he's hardly going to change out fortunes with that. Dougie will help Iron's out in the summer but with the transfer window being closed there was nothing he could do to help.

and instead of highlighting one sentence from a long post and ignoring the things that prove you wrong like you always do why not give admitting you are wrong a go? wink.gif

people might respect you more.

What the hell are you blabbering about now.For a start I have all the respect I desire from those who matter in my life!

Now-where am I wrong? I wasn't conscious of having made any earth shattering pronouncement. DI has improved things-was that difficult? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-13 16:26:15
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 13 2008, 03:59 PM) [snapback]433717[/snapback]
Donga, I'll put my hand up now and admit I'm not an expert, but I suspect that getting angry while cracking one off to a Kylie video may be indicadive of deep rooted emotional and/or psychological problems. unsure.gif

Very true.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 16:30:26
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 13 2008, 04:26 PM) [snapback]433741[/snapback]
I'm no hun, Three Hooses. I have no truck with bigotry. You know what a bigot is don't you? It's a very small mided person who can categorise 50,000 people as 'vermin' without even knowing them. And the best of luck to you as well, ya Pape basher. tongue.gif

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Gentlemen-enough of this tomfoolery. Why have we all gone anti vermin?

Rodents, like monkeys, vipers, and plankton,have just as much right to existence as humanity-some might argue more.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 16:32:21
QUOTE(Muz @ Apr 11 2008, 03:18 PM) [snapback]432729[/snapback]
Heading up there tomorrow to see the Stones/Scorcese "Shine a Light"

Booked a leather sofa, you can also get a glass of wine/bee etc when the film is on. Never been- anyone on here been?

Was up there last week and the late night Friday/Saturday film was "The Lost Boys"- wasnt allowed to go in!!!

This week the late night film is "Ghostbusters"!!!!!

Might try and stay up for that!!!

Beats that dump in Greenock anyways!!!

Anyone been?

Aye in 1972, when it was known as the 'fleapit' -can't remember what was on or who was with me.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 16:35:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 13 2008, 02:58 AM) [snapback]433530[/snapback]
are you psychotic then ?

sorry, psychic ?

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Dead, I think!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 16:40:24
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 13 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]433751[/snapback]
considering you spend 90% of your time on here shows that you crave our respect more than anybody tongue.gif

you are Iron's biggest critic on here, infact in your last post you laughed at someone who said Iron's had identified the weaknesses in our team, agreed that he was stupid to play weatherson up front himself yesterday (which incidentely he realised and changed at half time) and agreed that its a results driven business, despite stats proving that his results have been better than Mcinallys.

so yes, you are wrong. and if you spent half as much time realising other people have valid points and that sometimes you are wrong as you do highlighting insignificant parts of posts in fuschia deflecting from the main points of the post then you'd be half as smart a man as you wrongly think you are.

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mortonjag 2008-04-13 16:44:45
QUOTE(mentalton @ Apr 13 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]433589[/snapback]
What happens to players when they sign for Morton, I mean the likes of Jenkins, I watched him against Celtic just before he signed for us and he was absolutely outstanding, stick a Morton top on him and he becomes average, guys like him should be sticking out like sore thumbs in our team but they dont. Same goes for McGuffie, great player at Gretna, put him in a Morton top and boom, mr average.

The only player who has come afresh under Mr Irons tutelage is Pantaloons,and he's actually been pretty good IMHO.

I'd hate this to seem like praise for Mr Irons, mind you, as some clot has just claimed I'm his biggest critic, which indeed I am not. Simply one of life's seasoned realists! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-13 16:56:28
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 13 2008, 04:35 PM) [snapback]433747[/snapback]
I don't like the SNP - do support independence - do love Scotland, and unlike you, have a love for the Scottish people (well most of them anyway). tongue.gif

Was Mabon a REAL doctor- I mean a specialist in quackery or just another Labour fud like Dr John Reid?
mortonjag 2008-04-13 17:04:57
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 13 2008, 04:57 PM) [snapback]433765[/snapback]
Agree about Paartalu doing well maybe the anchor man we need , unfortunately we also need better players in nearly every position .

I thought you were Dougies biggest critic or has his performances been so inept you feel too much competition from others on the boards ??? laugh.gif

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I think the hard work's been done on Shoogly Chris. Nobody REALLY believes in him any more. The old fud is played out, and of not much more use to the club now that a used Fudgy Wudgy.

Bring on Alistair Donald and real


MUNNY
mortonjag 2008-04-13 17:08:03
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 13 2008, 05:05 PM) [snapback]433769[/snapback]
You can't be tactically innovative if players can't do the basics .

Putting some self belief must have been hard to do since the players have been under McInally and his retarded coaching and tactics for 3 years .

Then replace the ones who can't with the other ones who can't-worth a try-NO? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-13 18:07:05
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 13 2008, 02:13 PM) [snapback]433681[/snapback]
No, but these boys play week in and week out around Inverclyde, my nephew plays up front for them and was taken to Ibrox last season for a whole week with Rangers youth team!

Makes you wonder eh!? so much local talent and nobody to look at it and drive for a cracking youth policy which will aid our future aspirations!

One day - I just need a significant Euromillions rollover lottery win!

Mr Rae has made it eminently clear that if people want to have the privilege of Morton's patronage, they 'should let the club know'.

Indeed he will welcome youngsters to come for trials, PROVIDED THEY MEET THEIR OWN EXPENSES.

Mr Rae is rapidly approaching octogenarianism.

It shows.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 18:11:14
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Apr 13 2008, 05:44 PM) [snapback]433776[/snapback]
Under Irons/Collins we have improved vastly. Once the next season comes, with the right funding, Irons will no doubt bring in talent that will do a job for us. Hes doing his best with Mcinallys squad, however, no1 tells someone how to kick a ball on the park. The players should be doing the job with or without a new manager.
Anyway, the defence has improved greatly so thats one positive.

Roll on next season tongue.gif

Improved-yes!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 18:28:31
QUOTE(carlito @ Apr 12 2008, 11:35 PM) [snapback]433493[/snapback]
Oh aye, I did actually. But that was just an old song with a new player's name stuck in there, hardly very original! tongue.gif

...but it WAS extremely amusing, considering the fact that poor Wakey's been rubbished since the day he arrived!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 18:30:37
QUOTE(stubaws @ Apr 13 2008, 06:21 PM) [snapback]433793[/snapback]
totally agree, a waste of a wage. let the manager identify who he wants and set a limit on the fee (if any) to be paid. focus on the youth set up and getting coaches for that rather than an unnescessary director of football

Mark Farrell for Stadium Director.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 18:33:16
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Apr 13 2008, 06:23 PM) [snapback]433794[/snapback]
Roseanna Cunningham and Alex Neil would be a waste of bullets.
To think there are yet people jailed for witholding fines and other financial crime shows the madness of the current system.

That's a bit simplistic-some large scale 'financial crimes' have huge knock on effects. Physical violence is only one form of assault.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 18:35:09
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Apr 13 2008, 06:21 PM) [snapback]433792[/snapback]
If "the history of the Marxist-Leninist African Republic of Benin" isn't a good subject title for a New Labour bulldog's doctorate, then I don't know what is.
The irony of his Celtic chairmanship is plain to see.

Dr Dahomey I presume!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 18:36:56
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Apr 13 2008, 06:34 PM) [snapback]433809[/snapback]
Personally I think there are other methods of punishment other than incarceration.
Not your rather disturbing methods, I might add.

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Disturbing!

Punishment's MEANT to be disturbing boy.

Pink botty time for you.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 18:42:52
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Apr 13 2008, 04:59 PM) [snapback]433767[/snapback]
Dunno. Would love to see one. Big dinner once a year admitting three or four ex players/managers/officials and the like.

Lindberg, Ritchie, Hawke and McGraw please smile.gif

and MortonJag's monkey.

Mortonjag's monkey's testimonials are a private matter.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 19:32:53
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 13 2008, 06:54 PM) [snapback]433827[/snapback]
No, don't have one of those. I wear my Morton bunnet to Queens games. Also to Hampden yesterday as it seems it may be a lucky bunnet for Queens. I wore it to Cappielow for the second league game and the cup game, and Queens won both. I didn't wear it to Palmerston for either of our league games there and we won one and drew the other. I have worn it to several other Queens games this season at Palmerston and Queens have won the lot. My neighbours, who are Queens fans, insisted that I wear it yesterday and it did the trick. Definitely wearing it to the final...

It would (slightly) make up for our league cup final defeat if the Doonhamers beat the Huns because your Morton bunnet!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 19:36:55
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 13 2008, 06:59 PM) [snapback]433828[/snapback]
I would like to see them tackle the root causes of anti-social behaviour including more emphasis on social responsibility. The wheels were set in motion with Thatcher's "no such thing as society" principles and have been further compounded by New Labour's political correctness policies coupled with their abandonement of true socialist principles. The fact is if we were to jail everyone who deserves it in the eyes of the law, we would have to build a huge number of new prisons every year.

Some would herald that as an excellent idea-creating much needed work, though I still believe that simple spanking of pink botties is much more cost effective.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 19:42:29
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 12 2008, 08:05 PM) [snapback]433367[/snapback]
I agree that the play-offs should be abolished but when only one team from a league is being automatically promoted then only one team should be automatically relegated. If there is to be a play-off system it should only be between 2nd bottom and 2nd top.

Too sensible for the powers that be! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-13 19:45:23
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 13 2008, 04:56 PM) [snapback]433763[/snapback]
You're in denial Three Hooses.
The sooner you admit you have a problem, the sooner you can get help.

He hasn't listened-he's off to inspect more title deeds in some smoke filled Belgian brothel.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 19:51:54 McGurn




Walker Harding Greacen Keenan



McAlister Stevenson McGuffie Pantaloons



Weatherson LEAFY


Subs: Millar Wake Finlayson McGregor Wee Ginger Nuts







mortonjag 2008-04-13 19:55:57
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Apr 13 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]433845[/snapback]
You can disable avatars. wink.gif

WTF IS it anyway?
mortonjag 2008-04-13 19:57:52
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Apr 13 2008, 07:56 PM) [snapback]433855[/snapback]
And to think you constantly pilloried McInally for his team selections... rolleyes.gif

What is wrong with my team selection?
mortonjag 2008-04-13 19:59:48
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 13 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]433841[/snapback]
Don't bother phoning her for that. Perhaps you may want to phone her for backing the application, just like the SNP,Labour and Lib-Dem parties.
That's right ALL of them are in favour of this application going through !

Which must SURELY prove it's a crazy idea! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-13 20:03:12
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Apr 13 2008, 07:59 PM) [snapback]433860[/snapback]
What's annoying about it?

I agree with Deego. Anybody who uses the huff button AND an avatar like that has SERIOUS problems with identity.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 20:04:54
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 13 2008, 08:01 PM) [snapback]433864[/snapback]
FFS Alex Ferguson couldn't motivate that team Irons inherited, you moan talk about the Jag moaning, if I didn't know you I would swear you were a woman.

How WELL do you know it?
mortonjag 2008-04-13 20:06:57
QUOTE(leyTON @ Apr 13 2008, 08:02 PM) [snapback]433866[/snapback]
if it helps,i do take that backl

It WON'T help.

Pugglet has been in a troublemaking mood for some time!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 20:09:06
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Apr 13 2008, 08:05 PM) [snapback]433872[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I am really a sea creature with tentacles for a beard. biggrin.gif
BTW - It's Davy Jones from the Pirates of the Carribean films.

I am really a wee creature with testicles on my beard.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 20:11:43
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Apr 13 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]433862[/snapback]
We have a back 4 that has been pretty decent of late, you want to go reshuffling to accomodate two players that have barely featured this season. You want to play Paartalu, a defensive midfielder at left-mid, and have McGuffie in before Millar. You have Weatherson up front instead of Wake, who changed the game for us at St. Johnstone.



QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 13 2008, 08:02 PM) [snapback]433865[/snapback]
Walker hasn't played since December.
Keenan is s***e, basically, and is right footed.
Paartalu is never a left midfielder.
Weatherson has been s***e for months.
You have 'Wee Ginger Nuts' on the bench.
Finlayson is also never a footballer therefore should be nowhere near the bench.
Oh, and WAKEY isn't starting! smile.gif

Sorry gents-I am but an old fud.

I thought this was just a game of 'play the manager'!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 20:16:05
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Apr 13 2008, 07:54 PM) [snapback]433850[/snapback]
Noticed that too, good to see that he's got the confidence to want to take such a crucial penalty. I also noticed that that chancer McGuffie seemed to want to take it was well, he's got a bloody cheek considering his last one was an idiotc playground effort. Actually, wait...McGuffie and effort in the same sentence? Some mistake, surely!
Anyway, play-offs: It's a farce. If there must be some sort of play-off it should be 3rd top vs 3rd bottom, with the standard 2 up, 2 down. 4th place is pretty much a mid-table finish in a league of 10, I fail to see why such averageness should be rewarded with an extra bite at the cherry.

WTF is there not a designated penalty taker. SURELY MR IRONS would have sorted that out!


In fact I believe LEAFY was meant to take it!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 20:17:35
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Apr 13 2008, 08:16 PM) [snapback]433890[/snapback]
Wait ..... didn't Russell miss his last penalty too? Still, don't let the facts get in he way of a good story. laugh.gif laugh.gif

Don't be a pr*ck Smiffy-LEAFY'S was well saved!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 20:19:31
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Apr 13 2008, 08:14 PM) [snapback]433886[/snapback]
Wonder why half of those games were against the huns? dry.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-13 20:21:40
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 13 2008, 08:09 PM) [snapback]433877[/snapback]
He was a genuine quack MJ, in addition to being another proto-New Labour fud like Reid.

TY Mr Edwards- a primaeval Deuchar, if you will, but no loss to the profession I'd imagine!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 20:24:05
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Apr 13 2008, 08:09 PM) [snapback]433880[/snapback]
Can't believe the thread starter did not include that line.
Harsh nothing (I felt he was being kind) - they and their green brothers across the city really are the lowest form of life.

Dismissive is this gentleman-thoughtlessly dismissive-all Ton fans are presumably God incarnate! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-13 20:26:52
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 13 2008, 08:16 PM) [snapback]433891[/snapback]
I'm thinking there will be no shortage of applicants for that job, and I'm presuming you've got your CV all typed and ready to go.



Not really Mr Edwards-I may well have seen more little pink botties in my time than you've had decent cups of tea.

Mind you-if they OFFERED me the job!!!!!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 20:45:49
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 13 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]433908[/snapback]
I'm happy to stick with the tea thanks.

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mortonjag 2008-04-13 20:50:42
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 13 2008, 08:44 PM) [snapback]433923[/snapback]
Jeezo, 'Three Hooses' is on the Freedom Train bound for glory. He'll be singing a duet with Nickerless accompanied by Eck on the tambourine. Will Soapy Souter be blowing horns I wonder. laugh.gif

Soapy will be horny-Nickerless will be 'blowing' and Eck will be looking on in amazement and thoughts of Moira.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 20:53:21
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Apr 13 2008, 08:51 PM) [snapback]433932[/snapback]
answers in order......

Year 2000 (v reg)

Light purple (quite nice colour)

No 2nd remote, but spare key wih seat emblem. the battery was £5 from halfords

I don't know if that lot are just 'takin the piss' Flight! It's perfectly possible that there's nothing wrong with your remote, and that the central unit has packed in.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 20:55:24
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Apr 13 2008, 08:51 PM) [snapback]433933[/snapback]
I think that if they cut the taxation on petrol / diesel, fags, booze, and used the following slogan in their manifesto's "Bigger c**ks for men and shorter periods for wummin!" I think the SNP would have it sewn up for life lol rolleyes.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif ....and new skins for old!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 21:00:18
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Apr 13 2008, 08:58 PM) [snapback]433945[/snapback]
True ...but suicide is not a subject to laugh about IS IT

Nope Flight-it's deadly serious.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 21:02:36
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 13 2008, 08:23 PM) [snapback]433902[/snapback]
It is, but you're not very good! :)
Haha! smile.gif

You can't prove that until my selection is tried!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 21:05:03
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 13 2008, 08:57 PM) [snapback]433942[/snapback]
we do, which is why im hoping we reach the next step next week.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Stepping, young man is NOT sprinting!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 21:09:36
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 13 2008, 08:25 PM) [snapback]433905[/snapback]
Mentaljag admits to Jainism.

It's hardly an admission Mr Edwards-Homo Sapiens was named by Homo Sapiens.

My soul mates Munx and Fing bring me much solace!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 21:14:41
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Apr 13 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]433955[/snapback]
Apart from the 7 points from 9 games that Irons has got, compared with McInally's remarkable haul of 4 from his last 9.
Hence improvement.

Improvement cannot be argued-survival was the target!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 21:16:55
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 13 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]433957[/snapback]
sprinting is a series of fast steps tongue.gif

laugh.gif

aye-like the long jump is a series of hobbles!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 21:19:23
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Apr 13 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]433961[/snapback]
Irons was given a duff hand by the previous regime and chairman.
We're still on course for survival.

HE F*CKIN' APPLIED FOR THE DUFF HAND YOU EEJIT! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-13 21:26:36
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Apr 13 2008, 09:20 PM) [snapback]433965[/snapback]
Your point is?

rolleyes.gif

My point IS that you are making excuses. Did David Irons know what he was applying for or did he not?

He TOOK a duff hand if you will!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 21:35:28
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 13 2008, 07:00 PM) [snapback]433829[/snapback]
Lee Evans - a poor man's Norman Wisdom, much in the same way Billy Connolly made an entire career out of ripping off Chic Murray.

Edit to add Norman Wisdon wasn't that funny either.



QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 13 2008, 08:36 PM) [snapback]433913[/snapback]
Neither was Norman Wisdom. laugh.gif
Connolly the fraud and friend of the royals ripped off the great Matt McGinn. I doubt if Connolly could deliver a Chic Murray line.

Neither Chic Murray (an extremely witty man) nor Matt McGinn (a rare talent) had Connolly's ability to rapport with a huge audience of Glaswegians in his early days. The Big Yin was a one off and a brilliant entertainer before he followed the money trail.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 21:41:07
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Apr 13 2008, 09:28 PM) [snapback]433972[/snapback]
Still - what's your point?
He took on the challenge and he isn't doing too badly given the squad he inherited.

Correct-he was not 'given it' as you claimed.

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Apr 13 2008, 09:29 PM) [snapback]433973[/snapback]
Yes, most likely with the intention of sorting it in the summer, when he has the option to sign players.
Quite a big tool in shaping a team.
Or are you just being a complete tosser for no obvious reason?

Well he'll look bloody stupid if he doesn't get the chance!

QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 13 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]433974[/snapback]
you sir are an idiot, and coming from me that is possibly the biggest insult you will ever recieve.


It is, in fact, a very poor attempt. I have been called much worse by bigger fools than your goodself!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 21:49:43
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Apr 13 2008, 09:47 PM) [snapback]433979[/snapback]
Should have been a question mark, but the point stands. Rowan clearly just pissed someone off.

.....and there has been much weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth ever since!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:00:05 The monkey, fing, and I have been discussing death.

How do you good Ton followers feel about this inevitability?

Are you feart of the big fiery furnace?

Do you expect to sit at God's right hand on high?

Are you happy to become the contents of an urn, or would you rather give the worms a wee treat?

Whatever-sleep well!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:03:22
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 13 2008, 09:59 PM) [snapback]433984[/snapback]
Doubt it Col, all of the other parties want Eck to answer to the parliament for his plutocratic sycophancy. tongue.gif

Licking the arses of all and sundry for the less well educated!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:04:00
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Apr 13 2008, 10:01 PM) [snapback]433986[/snapback]
You're a cheery c*** tonight, aren't you? tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:06:31
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 13 2008, 09:58 PM) [snapback]433983[/snapback]
Wiznae too long ago we wuz part time in the premier league.

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mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:08:16
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 13 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]433989[/snapback]
As I have said before, my wishes are that no-one goes to any expense. I just want to be put in the wheelie bin on a Tuesday morning.

The murder investigation will cost an arm and a leg...............


at least!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:14:36
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 13 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]433991[/snapback]
So that's why you havn't been posting! You three got an excellent bag of hash and got baked over the last week laugh.gif

You and the monkey I am shocked...fing I am not surpirsed!

blink.gif


Hash!

We'd be better off snorting dessicated Fudgy Wudgys!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:18:12
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 13 2008, 10:14 PM) [snapback]433993[/snapback]
What ever is the most enviromentally friendly , after my cadaver has been butchered by some spotty wannabe Motonjag the third



Aye Chris-'leaving one's body to medical science' is a euphemism for six nappy rash medics kiddin' on they're studying anatomy, while discussing their latest 'conquests' or the price of a pint of lager.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:20:31
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 13 2008, 10:19 PM) [snapback]433997[/snapback]
laugh.gif

Its a f***in' pop song ya daft auld fanny. laugh.gif

It is indeed a true revolutionary anthem pimpledick.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:25:24
QUOTE(SramTon @ Apr 13 2008, 10:19 PM) [snapback]433998[/snapback]
I still think the way to go is to have a combination of PT and FT players when/if in Div2.

We currently have many FT players who could easily be replaced by PT equivalents for a div2 campaign, and at a fraction of the cost.

IF we end up in division 2 again, Rae might as well pack his bags and let us get on with things. That, I believe, would inevitably lead to a part time structure. Full time status only made sense if we had a structured plan and ambitions for profitability. It would seem that we have been sold down the river by a doddering old fool with limited resources.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:27:54
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 13 2008, 10:25 PM) [snapback]434003[/snapback]
Got all my affairs in order because you just don't know when the Grim Reaper - or 'Mortonjag' as he's called chez CHC - is going to pay a visit.

I'm coming to GET you!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:30:06
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 13 2008, 10:28 PM) [snapback]434008[/snapback]
At least I don't think a f***in' pop song is a 'true revolutionary anthem' (sic). laugh.gif

Get over yourselves. rolleyes.gif

It is a true revolutionary anthem micropenis.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:31:19
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 13 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]434010[/snapback]
If you do you'll be gettin' a boot in the RS McCalls, ya auld fanny.

I shall not be alone smallscrote.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:32:32
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 13 2008, 10:31 PM) [snapback]434011[/snapback]
It is a pop song ya daft auld fanny.

Oh well-if you say so microcephalus. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:35:35
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 13 2008, 10:33 PM) [snapback]434014[/snapback]
What, are you bringing Compo and Clegg along as well?

I am not daft enough to forewarn you minisculissimus.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:37:11
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 13 2008, 10:33 PM) [snapback]434015[/snapback]
I say so, ya daft auld fanny.

Fair enough gnome humper.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:43:48
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 13 2008, 10:37 PM) [snapback]434018[/snapback]
Predictable ageist witlessness from the 46 year old (soon to be 47) 'youngster'. tongue.gif

...who owns three Belgian brothels and an autograph of Allan McGraw signed on his bended knee.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:49:04
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 13 2008, 10:44 PM) [snapback]434021[/snapback]
David, you're obviously a intelligent guy, do you seriously think a pop song could be regarded as a 'true revolutionary anthem'?

It is a good pop song, I'll grant you that, but come on tae f***. rolleyes.gif

If you do think it's deserving of that rare accolade then I'd like to nominate this as a 'true pacifism anthem'. laugh.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6EFyofhXPw

Go to sleep my baby close your pretty eyes.
Angels up above you looking at you dearie from the skies.
Great big moon a shinin come now don't you cry,
Time for little Piccaninnies to go to sleep
mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:57:52
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 13 2008, 10:54 PM) [snapback]434026[/snapback]
The driver doesn't need a ticket mate. wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-13 23:00:20
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 13 2008, 10:53 PM) [snapback]434025[/snapback]
I'm an atheist so I'm not worrying about myself. When I'm deid I reckon I'll stay that way, but..... and it's a big but indeed....... I can't really get to grips with the (fact?) that I'll never get to see my loved ones again. In that aspect, atheism is a bitch.

That used to perturb me too DE-the secret is in learning to HATE everybody.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 23:03:08
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 13 2008, 11:00 PM) [snapback]434032[/snapback]
They couldn't lay a glove on him Tom at the Committee hearings. All they are doing is playing politics and hoping some mud sticks.

All parties are in favour of the Trump application, even auntie Annabel. Trust me wink.gif

Trust in me, just in me
Shut your eyes and trust in me
You can sleep safe and sound
Knowing I am around

Slip into silent slumber
Sail on a silver mist
Slowly and surely your senses
Will cease to resist

Trust in me, just in me
Shut your eyes and trust in me
mortonjag 2008-04-13 23:08:07
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 13 2008, 11:04 PM) [snapback]434038[/snapback]
Hiss off !! tongue.gif

Twas the Monkey's idea! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-13 23:11:03
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 13 2008, 11:08 PM) [snapback]434041[/snapback]
I'm a child of the 60's laugh.gif
Naw a bad article in the Guardian btw.

Unstoppable Alba

http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/mike_s...pable_alba.html

A child of the 'swingin' sixties' you mean? Bet you've been hunting your real parents for ages!

God forbid-they're probably Inglissh
mortonjag 2008-04-13 23:14:32
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 13 2008, 11:02 PM) [snapback]434035[/snapback]
laugh.gif

That was actually quite funny. laugh.gif

Munky hear-eye fink mye dadz ded-heze notte breevyng enny mower-whot shood mee an fing doo befoar chekkyng thi wyl? sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-15 08:16:37
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 14 2008, 12:14 AM) [snapback]434060[/snapback]
True, but I think most people believe that the music from their teens and 20s is better than any other era before or since. It's normal, I think, as these are the years when your most open to influence. Hence that's probably why you don't appreciate Morrissey and I don't appreciate Dylan. No doubt most teenagers nowadays think they're both s***e and believe the Arctic Monkeys write deep, meaningful and soul searching masterpieces. And who are you or I to tell them they're wrong.

I don't quite know where the 'knows the price of everything and the value of nothing' and 'praying for my soul' rant came from, but you couldn't be more wrong David. Nothing I've got has been handed to me on a plate, which makes me appreciate what I do have even more. And it's been done not for self-gratification but with a view to giving my own kids the best start in life I possibly can. That's where I get my happiness from, not from simply owning material things but from the belief that they will give them more opportunities in life than I had. And I hope in turn that they'll do the same for my grandchildren if I'm lucky enough to be blessed with them in the future.

I actually found your assumptions about me a bit offensive given that you don't know me and have never even met me, but I guess that was your intention so well done, mission accomplished.

And I'm still glad that you're still glad that I'm happy. smile.gif

Commendable sentiments Pimpleknob-commendable sentiments.

I just hope that, as so often happens, your wee sprogs don't take everything you're working your tiny baws off for, and then accuse you of 'never having been there for them'. Good luck!
mortonjag 2008-04-15 08:49:12
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 13 2008, 11:46 PM) [snapback]434055[/snapback]
OK, enlighten me.

Name me just one song that's made the world a better place. And I don't mean by simply giving pleasure, I mean that it's made the world better in a tangible and meaningful sense, like saved lives, or overturned a dictatorship, or stopped suffering and injustice.

Or are you suggesting Nelson Mandela would still be in prison and apartheid would still be in place of the Specials aka hadn't released 'Free Nelson Mandela' (a great pop song BTW). tongue.gif

Nanananana
Nanananana (all together now)
Nanananana
Nanananana

Life (nanananana)
Life is life (nanananana)
Labadab dab dab life (nanananana)
Liiiiiiiife (nanananana)

When we all give the power
We all give the best
Every minute of an hour
Don't think about the rest
And you all get the power
You all get the best
When everyone gets everything
And every song everybody sings

And it's life (nanananana)
Life is life (nanananana)
Life is life (nanananana)
Labadab dab dab life (nanananana)

Life is life when we all feel the power
Life is life come on, stand up and dance
Life is life when the feeling of the people
Life is life is the feeling of the band

When we all give the power
We all give the best
Every minute of an hour
Don't think about the rest
Then you all get the power
You all get the best
When everyone gives everything
And every song everybody sings

And it's life (nanananana)
Life is life (nanananana)
Labadab dab dab life (nanananana)
Life is life (nanananana)

Life (nanananana)
(nanananana)
(nanananana)
(nanananana)

Life (nanananana)
Life is life (nanananana)
Labadab dab dab life (nanananana)
Live is life (nanananana)

And you call when it's over
You call it should last
Every minute of the future
Is a memory of the past
Cause we all gave the power
We all gave the best
And everyone gave everything
And every song everybody sang

Life is life
mortonjag 2008-04-15 08:56:19
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Apr 14 2008, 08:11 PM) [snapback]434244[/snapback]
He is now "Priapus of Greenock" blink.gif

..unlike Priapus of the Brussels Bordello who stands full 2.36890 centimetres high.
mortonjag 2008-04-15 08:59:11
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 14 2008, 07:18 PM) [snapback]434227[/snapback]
I heard she tells some incredibly funny rude jokes. But intimate...........NAW THANKS laugh.gif

You heard wrong-Anabel is incapable of that kind of behaviour.

She DOES tell rude jokes mind you,
mortonjag 2008-04-15 09:02:45
QUOTE(SramTon @ Apr 14 2008, 08:51 PM) [snapback]434276[/snapback]
I neved said it was. But it's certainly ironic, whether intentional or not. Hence the wink, rather than a LOL.

Anyway, in a board that has recently slaughtered a dead ex-MP, a dead actor who played Captain Birdseye, and (to a lesser extent) Princess Di, I'm not sure where all the sympathy for Speight is coming from.

None of them were, partly, responsible for killing their partner by supplying her with cocaine. This (and other factors) means, much as a tosser as I may be, he was a bigger one.

I don't even know who the f*ck that geezer was but if he was dabbling in the coke scene he was IMHO a silly boy.
mortonjag 2008-04-15 09:06:42 Plusnet-cheap, reliable, and excellent customer service from folk who can speak English.
mortonjag 2008-04-15 09:10:42
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Apr 15 2008, 01:10 AM) [snapback]434367[/snapback]
As an athiest I assume there's nothing BUT I also imagine the last few minutes before you go (assuming you don't get run over or something and are in crippling agony) can be quite serene and cool.

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...as Mortonjag loads the syringe to the soft strains of Ave Maria and a dug barking doon the close.
mortonjag 2008-04-15 09:16:37
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Apr 8 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]431624[/snapback]
yeah, didnt realise he was from glasgow!

He CLAIMS to be from Glasgow-he actually lives in East Renfrewshire, and his recycling plant is half way to Kilmarnock!
mortonjag 2008-04-15 09:17:37
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 15 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]434397[/snapback]
NO, NO DONT DO IT, THINK OF THE MONKEY FOR CHRISTS SAKE!!!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-15 09:24:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 15 2008, 01:09 AM) [snapback]434366[/snapback]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7p4mioawIA
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nah i agree with you, But this wasn't just Mcinally and the players first time in the first division, it was Dougie's aswell. He's tried his hardest and made mistakes but he's well on the way to fixing these mistakes. We have a competent manager and brought in experienced better quality players.
everyone makes mistakes.

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mortonjag 2008-04-15 09:28:12
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 15 2008, 12:33 AM) [snapback]434363[/snapback]
and is that the only difference?

The difference between a 'typo' and a spelling mistake is that the perpetrator of the former is lazy, while the other is uneducated. Folk can't help being uneducated.

Mind you, most folk who claim they made a 'typo' are uneducated liars.
mortonjag 2008-04-15 09:29:21
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Apr 15 2008, 09:27 AM) [snapback]434404[/snapback]
Is there any milage in the rumour that Gretna are dropping straight to division 2 thus saving the Ton from play offs.
any info?

foobs mellow.gif

A rumour is by definition, a rumour.
mortonjag 2008-04-15 09:34:03
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Apr 9 2008, 06:35 PM) [snapback]432102[/snapback]
I didn't want to appear pedantic a la Mortonjag et al. Still, chuffed you noticed - never been accused of subtlety before. laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-15 09:37:24
QUOTE(HamCam @ Apr 14 2008, 06:46 PM) [snapback]434215[/snapback]
Why would anyone from Cappielow go to a kids football tournament in Blackpool ? At this time of year there are any number of tournaments throughout the UK. Well done to the lads from the Port but gies piece on using it as an excuse to beat DDFR around the bonce.

Until Morton commit to a proper youth structure why would any parent send their kid to the club ? DDFR has made his views clear on the subject and for the moment it is not a priority. I like many others believe this is a mistake but nothing gained by using every tenuous link to criticise everything at Cappielow.

That may well be true.

The club's approach to the Youth Structure DOES, however, deserve all round criticism.
mortonjag 2008-04-15 09:47:22
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Apr 15 2008, 09:44 AM) [snapback]434414[/snapback]
If you wanted to be pedantic you could rip the poor French apart. laugh.gif

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Still puzzling over this 'al' guy!
mortonjag 2008-04-15 09:49:17
QUOTE(nani @ Apr 15 2008, 09:43 AM) [snapback]434413[/snapback]
Bit of a pointless thread until we know what division we are playing in and if Dougie wishes to continue to invest in full time football. Having said that if we are still in the 1st Division then a new goalie (or 2), a back four, a winger and two strikers are needed. At least.

'can afford to'. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-15 12:55:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 14 2008, 07:37 PM) [snapback]434233[/snapback]
Believe it or not I have Catholic friends and family who refer to their churches as chapels. Agreed about Gourock Primary though.



QUOTE(forza ton @ Apr 14 2008, 08:31 PM) [snapback]434259[/snapback]
most people seem to refer to catholic churches as chapels. when i say most people i say the tiny fraction of the worlds tims who live in scotland and n.i. dry.gif

i doubt if there is a catholic church in greenock which is formally known as a chapel



QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 14 2008, 09:03 PM) [snapback]434279[/snapback]
If Teacher Tom went there, (and good luck to him) how could they be churches any more than they could be synagogues or mosques ?

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BLOODY HELL-WHO GIVES A F*CK! rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif


Little children fighting because they don't like their churches called chapels and they girn about the OF having chips on their shoulders.

My Uncle Jimmy in Belville Street, and My Auntie Jean in Kilmacolm Road, and my numerous relatives in Bawhirley Road ALWAYS talked about St. Lawrence's Chapel, though I have to admit they didn't go there to worship Jesus' Daddy.
mortonjag 2008-04-15 12:57:57
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 15 2008, 10:42 AM) [snapback]434424[/snapback]
a two storey hole ?

when we first arrived in Australia, we lived in cardboard boxes ... they were cheap and plentiful.

ah - the memories.

Sadly, we lost them in a bush fire.


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I think mine's just gone with old age Newt.
mortonjag 2008-04-15 13:04:48
QUOTE(Yoda @ Apr 15 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]434432[/snapback]
It's not death that is the problem for me, I'll just cease to exist no one will remember after a while and if they don't bury me for the love of me they will certainly do it for the smell!

The means by which I pass is another story, being a bit of a woose I would really rather that it didn't hurt awfully much if you don't mind. Something nice and quick like a heart attack, and don't be trying to bring me back! I have seen the after effects of that one and no ta!!!! Just leave me to go blue and cold!!!

unsure.gif

They CAN be a wee bit painful Yoda-Angor Animi was a term once used in that regard.My Dad said that when his time came, he hoped he'd just 'curl up and die', and he indeed passed away in his sleep.

In the words of the childrens' prayer-slightly corrupted

If I should die before I wake
Don't wake the wife
For Jesus' sake
Amen.
mortonjag 2008-04-15 13:06:59
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 15 2008, 10:12 AM) [snapback]434419[/snapback]
Hi there. Have a go at this one and see what you can come up with.

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Alan Main never saw it coming!
mortonjag 2008-04-15 13:10:08
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 15 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]434455[/snapback]
If you don't mind me asking, what's the monthly charge with them MJ?

Starts at £9.99 p.c.m!
mortonjag 2008-04-15 13:13:13 I thought this was going to be an interesting thread with lots of clever tips!

Here's mine for the uninitiated-you can stop almost any wound from bleeding if you apply firm pressure for long enough, though the patient may occasionally die before the end is achieved.
mortonjag 2008-04-15 13:17:01
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Apr 15 2008, 01:13 PM) [snapback]434478[/snapback]
I'd love to think that you could come back as a ghost and loiter around womens changing rooms. But you probably can't, which is pish.

The Holey ghost of Boozy!
mortonjag 2008-04-15 13:19:00
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Apr 15 2008, 01:14 PM) [snapback]434480[/snapback]
What if the patient is receiving anti-coagulant therapy?
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Anyway, can't you also stop minor bleeds with pepper?

They tend to stop themselves unless you're on anticoalugant therapy! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-15 13:20:21
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Apr 15 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]434482[/snapback]
Nah, don't sleep with Paisley burds. I'm clean...

What's with the spots then?
mortonjag 2008-04-15 13:22:59
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Apr 15 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]434483[/snapback]
Although I pretty much agree with everything in the first post I still find it hard to be critical of a guy for showing loyalty to an employee. He should have went after the Livvy game but too often nowadays managers aren't given a fair crack of the whip. I believe if Jim had went after the Livvy game we wouldn't be in this situation but the positives under Rae's reign still outweigh the negatives.

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mortonjag 2008-04-15 13:27:15
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 15 2008, 12:58 PM) [snapback]434464[/snapback]
Why ????
[b] We have nothing to celebrate from staying up [/b], just relief and a hope we don't go through the same crap again next season .

The play offs in this formate is only to protect the side from the higher division giving them a chance to rescue their status over 4 games when in truth they failed to do it over the previous 36 .

Save your money and go and watch QOTS in the Scottish Cup , that is an achievement . We will only be in the play offs by default .


You're a hard old sod at times. If Shoogly can be tossed in the air to celebrate a defeat at Kircaldy, the old buffoon should be paraded round the town in an open topped bus if we win the play offs























































and driven off Princes Pier at high speed.
mortonjag 2008-04-15 13:28:26
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 15 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]434472[/snapback]
guilty as chargd tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-15 13:33:05
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 14 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]434223[/snapback]
I can only hope Russell proves me wrong by scoring the winner or even setting up the onrushing Finlayson :rolleyes:
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Have you not clocked the fact that an onrushing Finlayson always fails. The few goals he HAS scored have all been speculative, or downright sclaffs!
mortonjag 2008-04-15 13:36:54
QUOTE(Rossco @ Apr 15 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]434490[/snapback]
Maybe dougie is still hanging onto SPL2 where we wont be relegated will be a tv package & dougie & running through fields holding hands with Pearce Flynn with the sound of music soundtrack in background.

How do you solve a problem like Marayah
mortonjag 2008-04-15 13:40:12
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Apr 14 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]434326[/snapback]
Awaits someone with Huntingdon's Disease... ohmy.gif

Do today's kids still talk about VD?
mortonjag 2008-04-15 13:43:31
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Apr 15 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]434496[/snapback]
The only reason i have left early was with YOU, so GIRFUY. Ye moan like f*** at games, as most around me have witnessed. Hanging about with the wrong folk is rubbing off on you, so get tae f*** rolleyes.gif

As for WeegieTon, ram yer pies right up where the sun dont shine wink.gif

penis?
mortonjag 2008-04-15 14:00:37
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 15 2008, 01:44 PM) [snapback]434498[/snapback]
I don't have access right now to a Collins or Oxford dictionary, however the online dictionary refers to a chapel as a place of worship being smaller than and subordinate to a church. A further definition is given as a place of worship for a non-established religion. Perhaps the Tims are right to have a chip on their shooder? laugh.gif

The Oxford says this....


in Britain-a place of worship for non-conformist religions


Chambers...


a dissenters place of worship, as of Nonconformists in England , Roman Catholics, or Episcopalians in Scotland etc.

and Encarta opines.....


A place of worship used by a nonconformist Protestant denomination such as the Methodists or Baptists.


Bloody hell, those Pishley c*nts have been boasting about their Abbey and Coats Memorial Baptist Church for years and in reality they are both just wee Chapels, even if the C of S. stole the former somewhere down the line.

Christians! dry.gif



mortonjag 2008-04-15 14:05:07
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Apr 15 2008, 01:38 PM) [snapback]434494[/snapback]
Go sit in hyde park with a picnic if you dont want to spend money,

personally i dont think you can go to london without sending a fortune, that place just seems to eat up your money wether you like it or not.

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Beermonkey spends all his holiday money and proceeds to enjoy it in Hyde Park!
mortonjag 2008-04-15 14:11:43
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 15 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]434508[/snapback]
Funny how 60 years on we still have the same problems.

Personally I blame the Nationalists!
mortonjag 2008-04-15 14:12:44
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Apr 15 2008, 02:09 PM) [snapback]434512[/snapback]
Yet another post that makes no sense. dry.gif

Try again when you sober up.
mortonjag 2008-04-15 14:14:57
QUOTE(MfcRyan @ Apr 15 2008, 01:59 PM) [snapback]434505[/snapback]
Don't eat yellow snow wink.gif

Leave it for the colour blind.
mortonjag 2008-04-16 08:47:14
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Apr 15 2008, 09:39 PM) [snapback]434686[/snapback]
You're on form today you Belgian butt truffle.

Maybe he's dead now! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-16 08:51:09
QUOTE(SramTon @ Apr 15 2008, 08:17 PM) [snapback]434642[/snapback]
Good old "vag1na disease".

My Oxford pocket dictionary (1988) quaintly defines S.T.D. as: "Subscriber Trunk Dialling".

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...before they rung the changes-and in the good old days it was gonorrhoea if you were unlucky and syphilis if more so, although I see the latter's making a comeback in Britain.

Columbus has much to answer for.
mortonjag 2008-04-16 08:55:05
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 15 2008, 09:56 PM) [snapback]434702[/snapback]
Christ MJ, that boy of yours sounds like a right selfish basturd.

Never mind my selfish basturd sprogs-just listen to a daft old f*nny before it's too late.

Nae pockets in a shroud, trois maisons!
mortonjag 2008-04-16 08:59:25
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 15 2008, 05:39 PM) [snapback]434587[/snapback]
Chapel is very old school.

Anyhoo, architecture is it? most of the decent school buildings were knocked down, Glasgow has a few left serving other purposes that look most fine, Scotland St school is an utter gem.
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDSo is Mr Bam----normally!
mortonjag 2008-04-16 09:04:03
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Apr 15 2008, 02:38 PM) [snapback]434521[/snapback]
Been trying to get in touch with a Tony Cowden at Cappielow (to get a couple tickets for Saturday from a gift voucher) for a while(as in a week huh.gif) and every time I phone I get an answering service so I select an extension number and get an engaged tone for the millionth time, the number I'm dialing is 01475 723571 is there another number or does anyone have Dougies home number?

also Torro, Al's away so you can have the other one if you want for free well when I say free I mean 1 cold pint. wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-16 09:18:30
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Apr 15 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]434594[/snapback]
DDF has tried to consolodate Morton's place in the SFL Division 1 on the cheap.
He has no intention of any serious future investments in Morton, on the contrary he has scaled back from what he once invested.
Time to sell up or at least allow Crawford to run things.



Sean DDF does NOT read this board, he has his minion to do that for him. Our resident spy.


Rae is a cheapskate-ask any business connection!


QUOTE(Toby @ Apr 15 2008, 06:31 PM) [snapback]434600[/snapback]
I wonder how this'll be spun at the end of the season by those within Cappielow depending on what scenario actually comes about.

Say we avoid relegation in the end, will it be dressed up as some sort of success story, hence more "onwards and upwards" speil that he usually feeds us, or will there be a bit of humility, accepting things have been crap and back to the drawing board. If this is the case, the new management team will quite rightly take a great deal of credit of course, but I'd be very surprised if Rae doesn't try to take the credit <piss> for helping us escape, i.e. bringing in Irons and Collins being a masterstroke.

If it's the case that we do go down who'll take the blame? Him? The previous management team? The current management team? The players? The fans? Think we all agree the current management team aren't responsible, but I can guarantee it'll be the fans, with a few wee bitchy digs getting directed at players who are on their way out. We may even see a dig at McInally and Clark at this point, after they admitted towards the end of their reign that they made mistakes in not bringing in experienced players in the summer. Who's the one person who won't take any blame? Exactly.

It would appear that the support as a whole's confidence in Rae is at it's all time low, with the majority now seemingly having had enough of him. It's easy to say that it's only a small section of the support that post on here, but I reckon it is an accurate enough representation of the supoort as a whole to cause concern for our resident tooth-rotter.

Someone with have alot of soul-searching and looking in the mirror to do over the summer, and it's not any of the fans this time around.


Not a chance!


QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 15 2008, 06:53 PM) [snapback]434609[/snapback]
Very well put Toby . Was never more convinced after hearing Mr Rae speak at the Q+A night . The resentful tone he answered any criticism is a testament that things will not change .

I think if he did admite to mistakes he would get more respect but that is an unlikely scenario.


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QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Apr 15 2008, 08:31 PM) [snapback]434649[/snapback]
Dougie's reluctance to admit mistakes is a bit annoying. When he did admit one, after the "home fans" comment, people jumped down his throat again anyway.

At the end of the day, for all his faults, I can't help but remember Scott/Peden and be thankful we have someone who owns the club who only wants what's best for the club and who would never let it die. I'm not saying because he saved the club he should be untouchable but for all he f***s up when I read about guys like the idiots running clubs like Macclesfield, Hearts, Cardiff, Leeds, etc. and after what we've went through ourselves I don't think we have it half as bad as some make out.

I remember selling McInnes when, if we'd kept him, we would have won the 1st division. Guys like Mahood, Hopkin, Mathie, Lilley, Anderson, Fenwick, Collins, Thomas, etc. all getting sold on, sometimes without the manager's consent, and how people were annoyed whenever we had a good player we sold them as it showed no ambition.

Now we have a guy who has been willing to dip his hand into his pocket and tries to keep a hold of players he's making different types of mistakes but getting far more abuse for it.

We, as a set of fans, will never be happy with who's in charge. We'll always find fault. Not just with a chairman but managers, players and ourselves. It's, perhaps, the way it should be. We should never be blindly observant, us more than most after what happened a decade ago, but we need to learn we shouldn't be overly critical of every little thing. The people in charge of our club are as human as us and it's not too far a shout to claim they're doing a better job than we would in their posistion*.

Bottom line we should all be forever thankful for Dougie and what he's done. We shouldn't let it cloud our vision of the guy. He was our saviour but he's not god. If Dougie would take this on board, admit his mistakes and try to rectify them, we'd all have a happier Cappielow on our hands.

At least he stopped coming out onto the pitch for his wee speeches. They were dire smile.gif

*Jim McInally this season aside



That, I'm afraid is not the case. In Rae's head, NOTHING comes before Rae.

QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 15 2008, 10:18 PM) [snapback]434725[/snapback]
i agree with Sean that Dougie has let us down badly, but i also am of the opinion that dougie is trying his hardest to rectify the mistakes he's made. I am not a Dougie supporter neither am i a Dougie critic. i see a man who loves Morton who has made lots of mistakes in the way he thinks the club should be run best, but also a man who has realised his mistakes and is trying to fix them.


Rae doesn't MAKE mistakes!


QUOTE(cornbeef @ Apr 16 2008, 02:14 AM) [snapback]434779[/snapback]
He has spent a lot of money and that should never be forgotton. If it was spent unwisely..... it's easy to say this after the event (there are lot's of experts with 20/20 hindsight on here)

and if he hadn't spent any money - where would we be now ? (I'll let you work that one out for yourselves)

The original poster is entitled to his view of course but I feel Dougy Rae (whatever his shortcomings) has tried his best for the team he supports and I'll never criticise him for that.

If I met Dougy I would be happy to shake his hand and thank him for his work over the past few years (I certainly wouldn't be bleating about being 'let down')



Didn't Hitler 'try his best' to achieve what he believed in Cloth Ears? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-16 09:23:41
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 16 2008, 09:17 AM) [snapback]434808[/snapback]
I always thought it was the old St Mungo's, could be wrong, decent looking building though.

Ladyburn Primary on Pottery St. Has a vague resemblance to Scotland St. School.
mortonjag 2008-04-16 09:28:24
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Apr 16 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]434810[/snapback]

Where's Sick Mick?

If the Tims win tonight he might ask Daddy for some inside information!
mortonjag 2008-04-16 10:30:20
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 16 2008, 10:09 AM) [snapback]434824[/snapback]
I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the courthouse. With its craw stepped gables and scots baronial turrets it's a right wee stunner. Pity that its prospect is too often marred by the shell suit bobs who gather outside it.

I detest those c*nts in the wigs too DE!
mortonjag 2008-04-16 10:33:01
QUOTE(se65an @ Apr 16 2008, 09:52 AM) [snapback]434817[/snapback]
Eh? You sire have lost the plot.

I do agree and said so in my post that Dougie is Morton through and through, but this season he has failed us all. I have met Dougie many a time and shaked his hand for what he has done for Morton, but next time I meet him, I will hae no issues with also telling him how he messed it up this season and has let most of the fans down(fans that see past the blue and white clouds).

Just like when an employee messes up big time they need told, so does a chairman of a football club.

Cloth ears and Shoogly-two peas in a pod!
mortonjag 2008-04-16 14:45:44
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 16 2008, 11:26 AM) [snapback]434858[/snapback]
hello Doctor,

Yesterday I went jogging, first time in ages, I am trying to get slim and sexy for my weddding in a few weeks.

In work last night I noticed my back was getting stiff and sore. I don't know if it was related to the running or not but then last night I couldnt lie on my back when sleeping, really discomforting.

The pain is over quite a big area, I'd say at the top of my lower back. I dont know what I have done to it. I went in a bath with radox today and also had it massaged which was quite painful but an enjoyable pain.

It's really agonising this morning.

I was wondering what your diagnosis is, have I pulled a wee muscle or something ? Will the pain go away in a few days ?What treatment do you recommend ? Should I stop joggin until it has cleared ?

I work 8 hours a day at a computer, should I try and keep the seat fully upright or at an angle ?


You don't need to be slim to be sexy, WDE, though it often helps.

I doubt if you've done anything serious. Soft tissue injury (a diagnosis which means-not quite certain-but nae broken bones) I imagine! Certainly having to sit bolt upright all day won't do much good-what's normally best is resting in the most comfortable position alternated with gentle exercising movements. You can buy nice hot rubs in the chemist which your beloved can massage in liberally, and if you have no allergies, tummy trouble, asthma etc., (always read the label) the strongest o.t.c pain killer is co-codamol 12.5/500 sold as Solpadeine Max or Panadol Ultra. In addition (not commonly known) anti-inflammatories like ibuprofen can be taken in conjunction with those.

If all else fails you could even try to get an appointment with your quack, though he'll probably be very busy filling forms to justify his performance to wee Nickerless!

Good luck-OH-and Loyal Lass is s*** hot on alternative remedies I'm told!
mortonjag 2008-04-16 14:49:33
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 16 2008, 12:20 PM) [snapback]434879[/snapback]
There's only one way to find out. Are you that desperate to know? laugh.gif

I think we lost that customer Mr Edwards!
mortonjag 2008-04-16 14:52:52
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Apr 16 2008, 12:12 PM) [snapback]434874[/snapback]
Booking hospitality for Saturday rolleyes.gif

Then you may just possibly be the last person in Hospitality to ask the current Chairman a question which he will answer by bemoaning the rising price of sugar.
mortonjag 2008-04-16 15:11:05 It's refreshing that at least the fans have now reached a point where Rae can be criticised.


Talking to him won't help, writing to him won't help, and praying wont help either as HE is GOD.


The only thing the buffoon seems motivated by is money, or the loss of it. Nasty home fans not bringing their friends seems to be his recurrent theme!

Enough of this sycophantic sh*te about 'his heart being in the right place unlike Donald and Ramsay'-all three are businessmen, but only two have had any REAL success with their ventures. Rae has blown it, he's skint in Morton terms, and he hasn't a clue where he's going next.

I know where I'd like that to be. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-16 15:28:21
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 16 2008, 03:20 PM) [snapback]434974[/snapback]
i agree completely with that.

my point is that now is not the time to raise these concerns as we have 4 weeks at most left of the season where we all need to be together, from top of the club to the very bottom trying to keep us in this division.

Maybe we do need Dougie to leave or someone to start making the football decisions for him, but that is not going to happen between now and the end of the season....and it would be disastrous for us if it did.

its all about timing, if i had a girlfriend who turned out to be a manic depressive who was suicidal because she had never had a good Christmas in her life then i wouldn't dump her on Christmas day......although i get the feeling Sean would. tongue.gif

Manic depressives are normally depressed for no specific reason PT. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-16 15:31:13
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 16 2008, 03:08 PM) [snapback]434962[/snapback]
MJ , you and that monkey are a nasty pair! ohmy.gif

No need to bring the monkey into this.

Anyway here's today's top tip. Don't spill Irn Bru-NOTHING will remove the stains!
mortonjag 2008-04-16 15:33:07
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Apr 16 2008, 02:02 PM) [snapback]434923[/snapback]
Going to Brussels next Friday for the weekend, i will feedback mate.

Is Noel paying?
mortonjag 2008-04-16 15:33:48
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Apr 16 2008, 02:35 PM) [snapback]434941[/snapback]
Agree with that or even Benbecula.

Islay's closer!
mortonjag 2008-04-16 15:41:47
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 16 2008, 03:33 PM) [snapback]434985[/snapback]
How do you know that , are you speaking from personal experience??



QUOTE(mentalton @ Apr 16 2008, 03:38 PM) [snapback]434991[/snapback]
Dont practice the art of sooking your own boaby whilst alone, I did and got cramp and was upside down with my legs over my head till the wife came home from work and unraveled me.

...and the Irn Bru stains hadn't budged.
mortonjag 2008-04-16 15:54:20
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 16 2008, 03:38 PM) [snapback]434990[/snapback]
because the same way as when Irons was hired everyone said now wasn't the time to raise our concerns about the club and everyone was to pull together (which im sure you agreed with) to try and help us stay in the division.

we aren't relegated yet and it is plain for me to see that Dougie is trying his hardest to correct past mistakes (even as far back as trying to convince Millar to stay after he'd decided to leave), The managers have defintely been trying their hardest, infact with Irons he has tried even harder than anyone expected after his appearance out our game against QOS, The players have put in a hell of a lot of effort under Irons and you can see how much staying up means to them (the thing that amazes me is how many of those players love the club that the club doesn't love back), even the fans at games have been a lot better since then, which only leaves the messageboard moaners who aren't pulling their weight.

when everyone agreed when Irons took over that we should all get behind the club and put our off-field problems on the back burner to help get us out of the division did it only count for the first few weeks until he hadn't performed miracles? Because for me it meant until either the end of the season or when we were relegated.

the fact you cant see the points ive made above are what IMO makes you self obsessed when it comes to this. ( Don't really know you so couldn't say if you're self obsessed in your life or if its just when you come on a football messageboard).

you're almost 50 now! ohmy.gif

How is it possible for a man to 'attempt to correct past mistakes' when he has yet to admit to a single one?

Not everybody thought Irons/Collins, was the best selection for the difficult task of saving Shoogly's bacon, and so far they HAVE tried very hard and failed. That is NOT a criticism of THEM, but they are relatively inexperienced, just as JM was, and they are, by all accounts, personable chaps-just like JM was.

Wouldn't it have been nice to get some absolute c*nt short term-somebody who knocked some bloody sense and respect into certain players and dropped them at will, and introduced TRUE competition into the squad, and DIDN'T listen to anything the Chairman said, and saved the old c*nt's skin, before telling him to take a flying f*ck to his new contract! smile.gif

mortonjag 2008-04-16 15:55:43
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Apr 16 2008, 03:45 PM) [snapback]434996[/snapback]
Aha....as a doctor of some repute you should know very well that it is sometimes said that the cure can be worse than the disease.

The process of removing Dougie could in fact replace him with a bigger despot. So I say again, be careful what your wish for, successful business men usually lose all their business acumen the minute they walk through the doors of football clubs. They start to think with their balls, footballs that is, and not their brains.

I'd welcome that as Rae is clearly emasculate.
mortonjag 2008-04-16 15:59:17 Mr Haswell was NOT the villain of the piece. He made it quite clear that he 'did not have a clear view of the incident'.

I'm still waiting for a further reply from Drew Herbertson BTW!
mortonjag 2008-04-16 16:02:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 16 2008, 03:49 PM) [snapback]435003[/snapback]
is that a problem ?

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how can a patient die occasionally ?

do patients of mortonjag die more than once ?

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Mortonjag-physician by appointment to J.Christ, carpenter of Nazareth and putative 'Son of God'.
mortonjag 2008-04-16 16:08:02
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 16 2008, 04:02 PM) [snapback]435013[/snapback]
the right time is at the end of the season wether that be if we stay up or not. I agree completely with everything Sean said but i dont see how anything has changed since everyone almost unanimously decided to get behind the team, chairman and club when Irons was appointed. The season hasn't ended yet and we're not relegated yet so im still in the frame of mind where we should all be pulling in the same direction.

of course he has the right to express his opinion at any time, i just don't think him doing it now helps anyone...except maybe himself. tongue.gif
so you choose one of the most crucial times in our clubs history to start moaning about things Morton. If i thought for a second your post would make a difference to Morton in a good way then i'd be all for it, If Dougie read it and went " good idea sean, ill get someone in right now to help with the football side of things, sorry i didnt get you a birthday present btw " then all would be great, But the best thing that can happen with it is no one from the club reads it and passes it onto Dougie, the worst thing is they could and he takes it as an attack and lowers his opinion of some fans even more.

No good thing could come from posts like your opening one at times like this, only bad things so i don't see the point in discussing things like that now. If you'd started this thread at the end of May i'd have been completely on your side and asking you for fashion tips like what cheap jeans go well with cheap trainers.

What a load of crap! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Don't criticise the old buffoon right now, because it won't do any good-it won't do any HARM-he's more pachydermatous that an elephant with psoriasis, and Sean is entirely entitled to voice his opinion as a paying customer-JUST WHENEVER HE PLEASES!
mortonjag 2008-04-16 16:13:03
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 16 2008, 04:09 PM) [snapback]435019[/snapback]
Just because he doesn't admit in public doesn't mean he doesn't realise he's made mistakes. Dougie is a very proud man and offering himself to the slaughter of baying fans who've wanted blood at every oppertunity is never going to happen. He will never admit mistakes to us, which is fine by me because i dont have a complete dislike for him so im able to notice when he's trying to fix mistakes.

i thought Irons was the worst possible choice for manager, infact the day he was appointed i was on here angry as hell that it had happened and arguing with people, But he has been a complete breath of fresh air.

Just about every single player has been dropped under Irons and he's only been here 9 games. How can you get TRUE competition when you're not able to sign players and the players at his disposal aren't good enough?. Irons has made one signing since he came, and he could possibly be our best signing of the season (although thats not saying a lot).

Nice to know everything's sorted then!
mortonjag 2008-04-16 16:19:16
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Apr 16 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]435025[/snapback]
So you don't like him then, its like nothing personal. Your not a product of his loins or anything like that....a forgotten love child...his forgotten b*****d son. You don't have some ulterior motive...like trying to buy the club for nothing when Dougie chucks it.

You just don't like him, whether he's running Morton Football Club, Golden Casket or the ficken marathon. dry.gif

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That's the umpteenth time I've been asked that question, and for the umpteenth time I'll reply that I've only met the old dodder on one occasion-it is NOT a personal issue.

What I WILL say, is that I despise the type of personality he appears to portray.

I can assure you that not only Sean feels let down by a man whose blundering buffoonery has taken us seven years to reach relegation spot in the 1st division.

That is down to megalomania, inability to delegate, and ultimately financial cold feet. Daddy Rae is now a liability-PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
mortonjag 2008-04-16 16:20:19
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 16 2008, 04:11 PM) [snapback]435022[/snapback]
Coming from the Grand Master of self obsessiveness.

The phrase " think they're bigger than the club " was thought up just for you.

Don't become one of MJ's minions Sean! tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-16 16:22:20 Discuss ad libitum!
mortonjag 2008-04-16 16:25:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 16 2008, 04:18 PM) [snapback]435028[/snapback]
SURGEONS at a Philippines hospital are being probed after they allegedly filmed an operation in which a man had a spray can removed from his backside, then posted the footage on YouTube.

The video, which was taken down from the popular video-sharing website after several weeks, showed dozens of people in the operating theatre laughing and jeering as the surgeons removed the canister from the man's bottom, Deutsche-Presse Agentur reported.

The surgery was carried out at Vicente Sotto Memorial Medical Centre in Cebu City, 585km south of Manila.

Hospital spokesman Emmanuel Gines said the 39-year-old patient would get an apology for the incident on January 3, which was being investigated.

The video was initially thought to be a hoax until the victim went to the media this week.

The man, a florist, said he ended up with the spray can inside him after insulting his partner's penis size.

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A rose by any other name!
mortonjag 2008-04-16 16:28:37
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 16 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]435036[/snapback]
Oh god, how predictable.

sorry for taking your name in vain btw.

I actually tried to start a poll and f*cked up-not the stuff of deities-and now I can't delete the bloody thing-anyway it would end up 95% feeling let down with a few weak kneed sycophants on the other side! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-16 16:33:17
QUOTE(nani @ Apr 16 2008, 11:08 AM) [snapback]434848[/snapback]
Andy McLaren is the worst type of player there is??? Are you serious? For the first year or so at Morton he was different class. The one guy who would produce a bit of flair or magic that would excite me as a football fan. Worth the admission money alone. So what if he moaned at refs etc. He was a class act. Apart from him and wee McGowan our team is full of water carriers....lots of effort and commitment but no class. No-one who can do something special. Thats why we are 2nd bottom. If we had both of the above or even one of them we wouldnt be where we are. Yeah its a shame that that his personal problems have hindered his career and I`m sure that in his later years he will have some regrets. However I enjoyed watching him play and I always felt we had a chance of doing something if he was on the ball. If thats the worst type of player there is then I wish we had a few more of them.

Exactly-just when we need somebody to see us through to the end of a game it's always 'pass the buck' time. We've not had a natural leader on the park under Rae.
mortonjag 2008-04-16 16:34:57
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 16 2008, 04:32 PM) [snapback]435042[/snapback]
probably true, and i'd be one of those 95%.

just glad you're actually a mere mortal after all and f*** up like this rest of us.

I always admit my mistakes PT. If you check, my last one was in 2006.
mortonjag 2008-04-16 16:37:36
QUOTE(Yoda @ Apr 16 2008, 04:29 PM) [snapback]435041[/snapback]
We were on holiday in Blackpool, must have been 36 years ago as it was before my brother was born. Anyhoo, we were staying in a guest house and the people in the next room had gone out for the night and left all their weans to their own devices.

My mum and dad could hear really dreadful screaming coming from next door, so my dad went to investigate to find one of the youngest with a dislocated thumb, so he took him to the Victoria Infirmary to get it looked at. The boy was sitting in the waiting room swearing like a trooper and poor Jim (my dad) is trying to explain to the staff that the brat is not his, he is just from the room next door, when in comes a guy on a trolley, bent up on his knees with a rug over him and his friend trotting along beside asking "can someone help me friend?"

They take the guy on the trolley into a cubicle and one of the nurses asks his friend what is the matter - the chap replies very quietly "he has a torch stuck up his anus" pardon says the nurse - the chap repeats the sentence at which point my dad hears (and sees) the doctor behind and through the curtain shout "Jesus Christ it's lit!"

Poor Jim never really got over that trip to hospital. ohmy.gif

Lead kindly light, amid the encircling gloom!
mortonjag 2008-04-16 16:39:08
QUOTE(Yoda @ Apr 16 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]435043[/snapback]
Is a tourniquet round the throat not classed as strangulation?

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Firm pressure my dear!
mortonjag 2008-04-16 16:40:49
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 16 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]435046[/snapback]
it would take me longer to go through all your posts back to 2006 than it would for me to live every single day again back to that point.

I'm glad you've accepted my statement!
mortonjag 2008-04-17 07:40:46
QUOTE(Yoda @ Apr 16 2008, 10:46 PM) [snapback]435164[/snapback]
Mt apparently. A drill had to be called for. She said he was crying like a baby. Though i suppose you would with a bottle of spars finest hock hanging out yer ers. Why would you? Seriously though why?

The bottle up erse story is a fairly common one in casualty. One of the best excuses I ever heard was-'I fell on it'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-17 07:46:42
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 17 2008, 06:51 AM) [snapback]435250[/snapback]
I hate Irn Bru mad.gif

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It's supposed to be our other national drink-I go through wee phases when I can enjoy it-mainly with a fish supper.
mortonjag 2008-04-17 07:52:00
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 16 2008, 04:54 PM) [snapback]435054[/snapback]
How many cars will get booked for parking on Carwood street pavements this Saturday then?

Ask Clapton!
mortonjag 2008-04-17 07:56:35
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 16 2008, 05:03 PM) [snapback]435057[/snapback]
I understand your opinion ate, but Sean is only saying what the majority have been saying for a while on here and at the games. DDFR has made some vital errors which have contributed, whether inavertantly or not, to the demise of the team this season. he has to know the fans feelings at all times and a good chairman will listen to his fans at all times, good or bad. DDFR does not seem to have grasped that concept.
i know it is, and believe me im along with the majority in their opinions of Dougie, but maybe its just me thats of the opinion that for the last two league games and the play-offs maybe that the chairman doesn't matter, the managers dont matter, the players dont matter and the fans dont matter.

the only thing that matters is Morton, a collective of all those things.

Rae is Morton-that's exactly what's wrong.
mortonjag 2008-04-17 08:00:16
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 17 2008, 07:54 AM) [snapback]435261[/snapback]
I know, but i have never liked the stuff , too sweet and sickly for me sad.gif

Try the diet stuff mixed half in half with gin.
mortonjag 2008-04-17 08:01:36
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Apr 17 2008, 07:45 AM) [snapback]435258[/snapback]
i just watched the goals there...brilliant goal by nakamura

whats the deal with red cards then?? does the ban kick in straight away or do they have to wait a few games like yellow card/point accumulations?

cos if rangers are without their 2 central defenders for the next few games they could just slip up there after months of what doctors call "c***y b*****dtitus" tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-17 08:37:41
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Apr 17 2008, 08:10 AM) [snapback]435266[/snapback]
tongue.gif that doesnt answer my question...haha

I was puzzled by your medical term-you don't suffer from relapsing low grade papalparanoia perchance? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-17 08:41:30
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 17 2008, 08:02 AM) [snapback]435265[/snapback]
There a lot of dicsussion on here about drugs and junkies and whatnot; the problems they cause to society and how best to deal with them.

Now I'm wanting to minimise in any way the seriousness of drug abuse and what that can lead to both for the individual and society as a whole. But I do think that overall alcohol causes much more violence and social disorder than drugs do. It's already well known that the vast majority of violent crime and murder is carried out when the offender is under the influence of alcohol (I can't remember the exact statistic but I'm sure it's something like 80% of murders). Now there's a study which even suggests that a mother drinking alcohol in pregnancy can lead to violent tendencies in later life: -

http://www.theherald.co.uk/mostpopular.var...n_pregnancy.php

Sometimes I get the feeling that when we worry and pontificate about the best way to deal with junkies we're a bit like doctors dicussing how to cure the cold when the patient is actually dying of cancer.

So what causes more social unrest, violence and mysery, alcohol or drugs? Overall I'd have to say alcohol.

Thoughts?

Aye Pimpleknob-that happens all the time.


Anyway you are correct beyond a shadow of a doubt, but this thread will probably run to forty three and a half pages of crap from self appointed specialists.

QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Apr 17 2008, 08:15 AM) [snapback]435267[/snapback]
i would tend to say drugs cause more social unrest.

people sit in pubs with plenty of alcoholics around them and feel at ease but if a junkie were to sit next to them chances are most ppl would be keeping an eye on their wallet/purse and feel a bit uneasy.

i know thats not really the point your making but more people tend to feel awkward around people on drugs than drink as alcohol is accepted by the majority.

fair enough, i see what your saying about the murders but i bet more theft is done with drugs involved and without knowing exact figures im pretty sure theft is far more common than murder.

jst my opinion though

Widely accepted myth Thrax.
mortonjag 2008-04-17 08:44:57
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 17 2008, 08:19 AM) [snapback]435268[/snapback]
Fopp is owned by HMV.
I was involved with them from '93 in a professional capacity and became their national account manager in '98. Before I left the company I was with I could see that Fopp were in a bad way and they were actually one of the reasons I left because they were spending £3m plus a year with us and I didn't think I'd have a job if they went bust.
They changed over the years from being an excellent 'indie' music shop to a junk shop, mainly because they were run for the last couple of years (when they were still independent) by a former MD of HMV. Really sad.

Terrible what misguided high heid yins can to to a burgeoning enterprise Mr McArthur! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-17 09:41:53
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Apr 17 2008, 09:27 AM) [snapback]435279[/snapback]
huh.gif i dont know...do i???

o crap i think i do...

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mortonjag 2008-04-17 09:47:33 You could very carefully screw a small diameter self tapper into the centre of the plastic 'thing'-just enough to give you the purchase to pull it back out and re-attach the link. Use a bradawl or some sharp point to start with.
mortonjag 2008-04-17 09:57:49
QUOTE(Yoda @ Apr 17 2008, 09:49 AM) [snapback]435289[/snapback]
After the trauma and distress - well we've got to ham it up a bit - of being broken into last week, I was dispatched to our local Argos to purchase a burglarrrr alarm. Came back with what I thought would do the job nicely, opened the box and found 40 meters of cables inside and instructions to drill a hole through the front of the house.

Back to Argos, exchanged it for another burglarrrr alarm, this time wireless with a remote - only one though, so if one of us goes out before the other we both have to be back at the same time for the one without the remote to get back in or we could leave it inside the front door as a handy aid to the next nugget who tries their luck so that they can switch it off nae bother! I caled the manufacturers "oh you can buy a second remote for another £20" aye right!

Back to Argos again, by now I am on first name terms with the girls inside and they are letting me open the boxes to check that there is a key pad inside and it will do what it says on the can. I don't do shopping I hate shopping. But whatever we put in it has to be simple, as I can't even work the timer on the oven.

Now it is over to Vader, to fit the flaming thing - the neighbours have been warned. ph34r.gif

Buy an Alsatian!
mortonjag 2008-04-17 10:31:45
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Apr 17 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]435296[/snapback]
I saw on P&B that there was a meeting but having now found this it seems it was just a Gretna residents meeting laugh.gif

I did find this though.

Gretna fans back agent's takeover attempt
By Amanda Little

Last updated 21:01, Wednesday, 16 April 2008

Fans campaigning to save Gretna have thrown their weight behind a takeover attempt by Brooks Mileson football agent Paul Davies.

Davies is preparing to make a bid for the stricken club which is in the hands of the administrators after owner Brooks Mileson withdrew his financial backing.

The Glasgow-based football consultant and agent, whose father Ken is the club’s security chief, is understood to be among four potential new owners, including a mega-rich USA consortium.

Davies has a squad of players on stand-by ( huh.gif ) to join Gretna this summer and wants to rebuild the club in the Scottish First Division after their relegation from the SPL.

The Gretna Supporters’ Society, which has formed an action group to raise funds and campaign to save the Black and Whites, is supporting his bid.

Action group chairman Malcolm Dunn, a Windermere businessman and club sponsor who personally paid for the team coach for the recent trip to Aberdeen, said: “We don’t see that there is another viable bid on the table.

“I’ve had a few meetings with Paul and he wants to bring success back to the club and keep the club going.

“I got involved in Gretna three years ago and it’s been up, up and up. They’re a great little club and the people involved are unbelievable.

“Our priority is that a club exists and is playing in the Scottish First Division next season. We’ve lots of fund-raising ideas and we are supporting any bid made by Paul Davies.

“We’re going to lose nearly every single player in the summer and Paul will be able to bring in 15-20 players in.

“They will be players on reasonable money instead of ridiculous money and we also need to look at ways of the club generating money as nothing comes through the gate.â€


Gretna residents are holding a meeting tonight to discuss the future of the club at the Richard Greenhow centre at 7pm. Tonight’s meeting is not linked to the Gretna Supporters’ Society.

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mortonjag 2008-04-17 13:54:20
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Apr 17 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]435306[/snapback]
Rangers are just bad losers. Didn't see these kind of scenes when Celtic got beat at Ibrox.

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mortonjag 2008-04-17 14:06:43 So what causes more social unrest, violence and mysery, alcohol or drugs? Overall I'd have to say alcohol.


That was the question posed by Pimpleknob.

The answer-beyond the tiniest shadow of doubt, and proven by every study carried out, if common sense was not enough, is alcohol.

It never fails to amaze me how a simple question can produce such complicated and confused thinking!

Of course there's a dual morality about booze because it's a 'legal' drug, but addiction to any drug is an illness.

The global damage caused in our society by alcohol abuse makes the 'junkie' problem very small in comparison.
mortonjag 2008-04-17 14:11:39
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 17 2008, 12:49 PM) [snapback]435341[/snapback]
Something occurred today at First Ministers Questions that I have never seen before in my life.
Wendy was questioning First Minister Alex Salmond. As usual Salmond was completely wrong footing her.
When it came to her 3rd and final question to the FM. She simply by this time had run out of idea's. To her complete embarrassment, she stood up and said " I have no further questions to ask" !!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I have never in any political arena witnessed an opposition leader not being able to ask a question to their opponents.
I do not know the words to describe this utter embarrassment for the Labour Party.

How on earth can they be happy with this complete humiliation ?

Great to watch though tongue.gif

Have you managed to get home safely Claymore C*ck?


I really can't fault your devotion to Bawheid!
mortonjag 2008-04-17 14:19:26
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Apr 17 2008, 02:11 PM) [snapback]435369[/snapback]
With all due respect to both Mick and Barbarossa, I'm sure John Wilson had no intention of selling the club to a fly by night character either. But the fact is he did, he was conned like a great many people and he detested Scott for conning him.
We could easily find ourselves in the hands of some other fly by night, a wolf in sheep's clothing, one who bears gifts who does not have any affiliation to the club other than he has relations in Greenock . As the old adage goes "Trust not their presents, nor admit their horse".

Old shoogly may have his faults but his heart is in the right place and I'll settle for that anytime. I don't think he's the best man to take us forward by any manner of means. But any of the other names mention just fill me with fear and dread.
There has to be another way for our club or else we will continue to under perform to the point where the fans stop going in numbers.
This club has been under performing for years in comparison to clubs of a similar size and the blame for that has to be laid fair and squarely with the board. Which in our case over the years has been the majority shareholder whom ever that may be. It's time for a change and the responsibility for that lies with the only constant at this club and that's the fans. They have to demand change and they can't do that divided. They need a strong voice to speak for them.

Dougie's Dalmation in emotive plea for sympathy.
mortonjag 2008-04-17 14:26:07
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Apr 17 2008, 02:20 PM) [snapback]435374[/snapback]
I agree with the part highlighted. Wake has come in and tried and his approach is refreshing when you compare him with the likes of Weatherson.

I'd keep him in the team for Dunfermline but I still don't think he is the answer long term.

Let's face it, in terms of ability Wakey and Spoonsy are poles apart.

There is, therefore, something far wrong at Cappielow, when most of us would rather have Khali start this Saturday.

Oh-and JM's long gone!
mortonjag 2008-04-17 14:41:53 How can there possibly be any BENEFIT in having to be involved in 'play offs' for our first division survival?


Only a very small number of cynics predicted relegation at the beginning of this season, yet they seem to have been much closer to the mark than the majority.

Forgetting the relative merits or otherwise of David Irons, Rae allowed things to get well out of control before anything changed, and if we are to believe him (not that any sane person ever believes a word he utters) he did not want to see JM go.

Rae will no doubt make more pronouncements in this Saturdays Shoogly Peg notes. For those of you who enjoy comedy, the £2.50's well worth it. dry.gif

mortonjag 2008-04-17 14:45:04
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 17 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]435372[/snapback]
It's lurve....

It must be lurve, lurve, lurve! huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-17 14:57:06
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 17 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]435365[/snapback]
i've only been to three megacities, and i'd rate london as my least liked. just don't like the vibe, really.

and by vibe i mean people.

Just as they dislike 'The Scotch'!
mortonjag 2008-04-17 15:01:56
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Apr 17 2008, 02:27 PM) [snapback]435377[/snapback]
Woo Hoo! biggrin.gif

Morton 4-Dunfermline 0

LEAFY 2, Khali 1 Finlayson (PEN)!


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mortonjag 2008-04-17 15:29:56
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 17 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]435383[/snapback]
Will he bring his guide dog and stick as well? tongue.gif

Euan Norris

Date of Birth: 29 October 1977

Height: 5' 8"

Weight: 12 st

Profession: Business Analyst

First ever match: Douglasdale v. Stonehouse Cross Keys

First international match: Scotland v. Holland (Schoolboy International)

Career highlights OVD Scottish Junior Cup Semi-Final 2002/03
Linlithgow Rose v Bo’ness United
Referee

OVD Scottish Junior Cup Final 2003/04
Carnoustie v Tayport
Assistant Referee

OVD Scottish Junior Cup Final 2004/05
Tayport v Lochee United
Assistant Referee

What does being a football referee mean to you? A unique hobby that allows me to participate at a level of football that would not otherwise have been achieved as a player.

Why did you become a referee? After playing Junior Football, decided that my playing abilities were limited and saw refereeing as an opportunity to further myself in football.

Would you have wished to become a full-time referee? Being a full-time referee would be a dream come true, just like any professional footballer, you would be employed for doing something that you love.

Any pet hates in football? No, I enjoy every aspect of football and refereeing.

What Law of the Game would you change? None

The most difficult Law to apply? Probably the most mis-understood law is that of a player being sent off or not, for denying what if deemed by the referee to being an obvious goal-scoring opportunity. Time and time again players, coaches & fans refer to the “last manâ€, a term that does not exist in the laws of the game.

Your best memory in football? Transporting the Champions League Trophy through Glasgow the night before the final between Bayer Leverkusen v Real Madrid in 2002.

Other sports or hobbies? Enjoy walking, golfing and cycling however due to refereeing commitments don’t get to participate as much as I would like.

Your main strength? Love of football.

And main weaknesses? That would be telling!

What's in your car CD player? Coldplay

Beer or wine? Wine

Favourite film? Top Gun

Tastiest food? Anything Italian

Favourite holiday destination? Florida

Luck or judgement? You need a bit of both

Dress up or dress down? Dress down

Whom would you most like to meet? I've never thought about it

Ambitions? To own a holiday home in Florida

Any advice for young referees? Give it your best; the rewards for top referees today are enormous.


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mortonjag 2008-04-17 15:38:18 We've been doing 'no bad' but just can't find that wee bit extra-will it come against the Pars?

Will Spoonsy be dropped and crying in his beer? Will Wakey score a hero's hat trick? Will Alex Walker finally get an overdue game? Will Shoogly appear on pitch, microphone in hand, pleading for calm?


Predictions please!

The Monkey says 2-1

Fing says 1-1

Mortonjag hasn't a clue! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-17 15:52:59
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Apr 17 2008, 03:43 PM) [snapback]435394[/snapback]
Not sympathy MJ just understanding and respect for what he has done at Cappielow. He may not have done the right thing every time but you have to respect what he has done.
He may not be the nicest of characters to deal with but then you either accept that and move on and agree to disagree or just be totally negative about the man and throw your toys out the pram.
I don't like particularly like your condescending attitude but it would be a boring place if we were all the same.

That's where you're wrong-how can I possibly be asked to respect somebody whose stewardship of our Club has progressed to the farcical?

What exactly is meant by that stupid comment 'his heart's in the right place'?

He's only doing what he believes is right-is that it-just like Hitler and every bloody paedo who's prowled our playgrounds?

NO, NO, NO! mad.gif

Oh, and you are a total conundrum if you dislike condescension, while happily sitting and begging to Shooglemeister's command 'Spotty'! tongue.gif

mortonjag 2008-04-17 16:02:25
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 17 2008, 03:58 PM) [snapback]435397[/snapback]
Naw, this was wee Wendy's day laugh.gif

The old adage, better to stay silent and have people think you are a fool, than open your mouth and prove it beyond doubt, was maybe what she was working on .... rolleyes.gif

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Not something that's ever crossed Bawheid's mind! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-17 17:40:15
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Apr 17 2008, 04:18 PM) [snapback]435404[/snapback]
I have never in my 30 odd years visiting my sis's in London heard one Londoner say they do not like us, in fact the polar opposite was true, until recently when my family down there have noticed slight hostility towards the scottish never experienced in their time there..but this is due to neddish behaviour from a tiny minority, misrepresenting us in our need and desire for Independence. Fortunately intelligence has prevailed smile.gif

Exactly my point-you will find the odd Londoner who has funny ideas about 'the Scotch' but in general they're far more accepting of us than we are of them.
mortonjag 2008-04-17 17:49:01
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 17 2008, 04:11 PM) [snapback]435401[/snapback]
Had to get Dougie in there didn't you.

And have you decided Weatherson isn't and never was a striker? wink.gif


I never disappoint him!

My opinion of Spoonsy's ability has not changed.


QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Apr 17 2008, 04:27 PM) [snapback]435409[/snapback]
Most accurate statement you've ever made on here - took you just under 18,000 attempts though. laugh.gif laugh.gif

I just wondered which mug would be first to reply in that vein-hence the wink.gif with the comment!

Well done Smiffy! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-17 17:52:55
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Apr 17 2008, 04:41 PM) [snapback]435414[/snapback]
I must ask, then: What exactly is it that we should do? Just allow the Rae family to stumble along blindly, just in case another chancer comes along? dry.gif If we do that we'll end up totally buggered. What if the next guy turns out to actually be good??

Surely the most viable hope is that Rae senior takes a sidestep, while Alistair Donald and Crawford get on with running the club. Nothing is guaranteed, but I can't believe it would be worse than what we've been served up by Daddy.
mortonjag 2008-04-17 18:14:29
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Apr 17 2008, 06:09 PM) [snapback]435443[/snapback]
and inaccurate. It is Koreans who eat dugs.



Animals Asia Foundation has been concerned with this issue for a long time - their strategy so far has been to raise respect for dogs by promoting Dr Dog and Detective Dog programmes in Hong Kong, Mainland China, Taiwan and Korea. They have also carried out investigations on dog slaughter in China, Korea and Vietnam.
mortonjag 2008-04-18 07:01:03 From today's 'Herald'.




Family’s ‘hell’ over son’s assault charge


The father of a Down's syndrome teenager with a mental age of five said yesterday his family had been through "pure hell" after his son was charged with a racist assault.

Jamie Bauld, 18, was accused of attacking an Asian pupil at his special needs school. The case was eventually dropped more than seven months later.

But his parents, Jim and Fiona Bauld, said the complaint should never have been taken so far in the first place.


They described the allegation as "nonsense" and that Jamie had simply pushed the girl away as she approached him while eating lunch.

The family, from Cumbernauld in Lanarkshire, described the incident as "like two five-year-olds having an argument," and criticised prosecutors over their handling of the incident.

Mr Bauld said: "It was so ridiculous. When we spoke to the procurator-fiscal's office, it was a case of so what?' "They were not interested. It was pure hell. It has dragged on for eight months and we're delighted it's over now."

The incident happened at Motherwell College on September 4 last year. Jamie's mother, his full-time carer, said he had complained earlier about an Asian girl following him and staring at him.

When she approached him one lunchtime he pushed her away with his hand and told her to go away. The college informed Jamie's parents that he and the girl had been reprimanded over the incident.

The Baulds then heard a notice had been placed in a local newspaper appealing for witnesses to a racial assault and two police officers later interviewed Jamie.


Mr Bauld said they assured the family that the case would come to nothing but after the visit they received a letter from the procurator-fiscal saying they had enough evidence to charge his son.

Mr Bauld said: "When the police came to the door I let them in, thinking they just wanted to speak to Jamie. Then they began reading him his rights."

Down's Syndrome Scotland, director Pandora Summerfield said: "We understand there are formal guidelines the police should be following in terms of interviewing vulnerable adults and that these were not followed in this case.

"We will be writing to the justice minister, raising a number of points as a result of this particular case."



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mortonjag 2008-04-18 07:08:31
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 17 2008, 07:30 PM) [snapback]435477[/snapback]
Season tickets are not valid for the play offs I asked the club and got a quick reply

No more than I'd have expected from that Shyster Shoogly. A further failure to win the fans' approval. Does he imagine the stand's going to be packed like a sardine tin? mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 07:14:52
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 17 2008, 08:27 PM) [snapback]435503[/snapback]
let's all hold hands and try to contact the living

Aren't you confusing seance with wake?
mortonjag 2008-04-18 07:19:57
QUOTE(diablo ton 1 @ Apr 18 2008, 12:05 AM) [snapback]435649[/snapback]
Great quote by SmithsTON. LOL

Mortonjag, you walked into that one......did you not see it coming?? Obviously not...

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mortonjag 2008-04-18 07:20:46
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Apr 18 2008, 04:27 AM) [snapback]435715[/snapback]
I've backed us and Hamilton for my double this week. Probably a bit of a kiss of death as Morton have bust my coupon just about every week since the turn of the year. unsure.gif

I reckon Hamilton and ourselves will both win 2-0 meaning it's even stevens going into the final game. ohmy.gif

Ideally we'll turn in our performance of the season and rattle 5 past the Pars as Clyde completely implode at NDP. biggrin.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-18 07:32:47
SHOOGLY KNOWS BEST
mortonjag 2008-04-18 07:36:45
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Apr 17 2008, 09:04 PM) [snapback]435535[/snapback]
I drink far too much, usually in binges, and have yet to rob someone at syringe point. Take from that what you will.

Is that a Greenock pub?
mortonjag 2008-04-18 07:43:53
QUOTE(Mick @ Apr 17 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]435591[/snapback]
If you're carrying a little around the waste then you'll feel it in the lower back especially. I talk from experience and tend to find that plenty of stretching does the trick. If it persists then try some non-contact exercise (cycling etc) before going back to the running.

As for the posture at your desk: Really your facilities department should be sorting that out for you. Your chair should be at the right height to ensure knees at right angles, arms able to rest flat on the desk. Top of your monitor shouldn't be higher than the top of your head etc etc....

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mortonjag 2008-04-18 07:48:31 I'd suggest that congenital alopecia afflicting young men IS a disability, just like the baldness caused by chemotherapy.

Normal male (androgenic) baldness is normal!

mortonjag 2008-04-18 07:51:26
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Apr 17 2008, 11:04 PM) [snapback]435596[/snapback]
I can't quite make my mind up. If he is not he's very damn good! If he is, he's doing a good enough job to make this sax player wonder!!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=h-wdwpeK4ug&...feature=related

He's more jerky than a plooky kid having his first w**k.

Air guitar for that one!
mortonjag 2008-04-18 07:52:58
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Apr 17 2008, 11:32 PM) [snapback]435614[/snapback]
Well done Mortonjag... I took your advice (it was pretty much what I was thinking of doing, but I didn't have a bradawl - borrowed one), flushing as normal - you cured my toilet!

Mortonjag talks expert sh*te! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 07:56:12 My brother lives in London where he teaches Art. I've often gone out to his local with him when visiting, and found myself very welcome-even if I always politely refuse to buy those bloody Jellied Eels!
mortonjag 2008-04-18 08:04:16
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 18 2008, 05:19 AM) [snapback]435718[/snapback]
what ?

she is not a gymnast ! ? !

I thought as much.

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If the age of the Willie, young Newton
Is less than the thing that it's Putin
It doesn't feel well
And tends to rebel
Indeed it may give up on shootin.

mortonjag 2008-04-18 08:08:21
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 18 2008, 01:03 AM) [snapback]435699[/snapback]
i always wanted to be average

...but could never quite lower myself! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 08:09:47 now is not the time to discuss such matters as ...


I'm aiming for 20,000 before we get through the play offs.
mortonjag 2008-04-18 08:35:06
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 18 2008, 08:29 AM) [snapback]435743[/snapback]
He's playing

Thought you were a bag blower!
mortonjag 2008-04-18 08:38:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 18 2008, 08:23 AM) [snapback]435740[/snapback]
mortonjag, you may have chosen the wrong profession back in the 1960s.

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With your ability to write lyrics you would have been Paisley's answer to Bob Dylan.

Donovan Leech has nothing on you.

smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif


I'm just mad about Saffron.
A-Saffron's mad about me.
I'm-a just mad about Saffron.
She's just mad about me.

They call me Mellow Yellow,
Quite rightly.
They call me Mellow Yellow,
Quite rightly.
They call me Mellow Yellow.

I'm just mad about Frontine.
A-Frontine's mad about me.
I'm-a just mad about-a Frontine.
A-She's just mad about me.

They call me Mellow Yellow.
They call me Mellow Yellow,
Quite rightly.
They call me Mellow Yellow.

Born-a high forever to fly.
Wind-a velocity nil.
Born-a high forever to fly.
If you want your cup, I will fill.

They call me Mellow Yellow,
Quite rightly.
They call me Mellow Yellow,
Quite rightly.
They call me Mellow Yellow.

So mellow yellow..

Electrical banana
Is gonna be a sudden craze.
Electrical banana
Is bound to be the very next phase.

They call it Mellow Yellow,
Quite rightly.
They call me Mellow Yellow,
Quite rightly.
They call me Mellow Yellow.

Saffron, yeah.
I'm just-a mad about her.
I'm-a just-a mad about-a Saffron.
She's just mad about me.

They call me Mellow Yellow,
Quite rightly.
They call me Mellow Yellow,
Quite rightly.
They call me Mellow Yellow.

Oh, so yellow..
Oh, so mellow..



Poor old Donovan-spaced out and mellow! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 08:45:54 If we can just find a dead ringer for Mr Norris in time-£10 to him and £50 to the real ref, and we'll be on easy street! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 08:52:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 18 2008, 08:46 AM) [snapback]435752[/snapback]
naw.

Yer wrong wee jag.

Shoogly Knows All (FA)

Has Shoogly offended you, young man?


SHOOGLY'S HEART'S IN THE RIGHT PLACE



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mortonjag 2008-04-18 08:59:24
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 18 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]435754[/snapback]
No, he wont.



There were hugs and tears, champagne uncorked, toasts. Nicola Sturgeon, resplendent in a red suit, looked elatedly shell-shocked. Moira Salmond, already thinking about the possibilities of coalition, said she rather have a Nicola than a Nicol as her husband's deputy first minister. Meanwhile, Alex Salmond raised a glass to his hard-working, underpaid, knackered staff. The hour was 5.30pm; the date the fourth of May, 2007. Mark it well.



Nicola, I imagine would Soutar more! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 09:00:58
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 18 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]435757[/snapback]
Some times I think pc goes too far , in this case it clearly has, in trying to class that as a racially aggrevated attack.
Havent they got better things to do..................like catch criminals.

It's all to do with brown trousers. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 09:03:09
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 18 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]435756[/snapback]
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Not I, mate ... others !!

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Is Shoogly still a practising Methodist?
mortonjag 2008-04-18 09:06:09
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 18 2008, 09:01 AM) [snapback]435762[/snapback]
You silly old goat ! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Moira is, I'd imagine, one of life's gentle people, who's quite happy to run after her little boy, attending to his (almost) every need! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 09:07:20
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 18 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]435764[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-04-18 09:15:56
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 18 2008, 09:10 AM) [snapback]435771[/snapback]
How dare you sir! The port is a lovely place and fairly raises the tone of anotherwise deprived district! tongue.gif

Seriously the ammount of weapons being used in this area is scandalous! The neds need dealt with by the justice system , long sentences to served fully.

First offence-birching

Second offence-put in the recycling mincer after being skinned alive. Skins to be used to make new 'birches' and save our trees.
mortonjag 2008-04-18 09:18:12
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 18 2008, 09:14 AM) [snapback]435773[/snapback]
Are you drawing me a stinker??? laugh.gif

The only thing I'm bad at is drawing!

Nah-just mention racial abuse to any authority and the knickers are ritually creamed!
mortonjag 2008-04-18 09:54:11
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 18 2008, 09:13 AM) [snapback]435772[/snapback]
Mrs Salmond is indeed a very nice lady , and unlike Cherie Blair prefers to stay in the background ! and I am sure she caters for ALL our gallant leaders needs!

Bawheid may indeed be asexual.
mortonjag 2008-04-18 09:56:31
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 18 2008, 09:44 AM) [snapback]435779[/snapback]
Seems like an interesting tactic....... huh.gif





"Labour MSPs and officials insisted it was not the case that Ms Alexander did not have a final question, but that it was a prepared ploy not to ask one. as Claymore C*ck needed cheering up.
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:00:03
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 18 2008, 09:49 AM) [snapback]435784[/snapback]
I'm sure they will all be of a quality Keats would be proud of.



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Give me women, wine, and snuff
Until I cry out "hold, enough!"
You may do so sans objection
Till the day of resurrection:
For, bless my beard, they aye shall be
My beloved Trinity.

-- John Keats

mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:02:20
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 18 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]435785[/snapback]
Would you like pictures of the wounds put up?

Good idea Mr McArthur. BLOODY good idea!
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:04:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 18 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]435789[/snapback]
please insert the missing apostrophe ASAP.

Just to ensure that no one gets the wrong impression.

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leaders'.

There!
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:05:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 18 2008, 09:59 AM) [snapback]435792[/snapback]
as distinct from physically insane ? ?

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Every time young Deegan argues, he ties himself in knots.
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:06:46
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 18 2008, 10:04 AM) [snapback]435800[/snapback]
She's possibly gone for the old 'less is more' tactic. Now who else could benefit from that? Hmmmmmm........ blink.gif

Shoogly? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:08:32
QUOTE(Rossco @ Apr 18 2008, 10:03 AM) [snapback]435798[/snapback]
With or without Damians law if they catch the guy who done the stabbing its attempted murder.

Whilst I agree in principle with Damians law if people feel need to get tooled up they will & even with a law in place that bangs up people for carrying knives its not going to stop people carrying them.

That is undoubtedly true. We must adopt means of stopping those feelings!
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:12:25 The only Be Bo I know about is this


Be Baw Babbity

Be Baw Babbity

1.
Be baw babbity,
Babbity, babbity,
Be baw babbity,
Kiss the bonnie wee lassie.

2.
B O Babbity, babbity, babbity,
B O Babbity, babbity, busty barley.

Kneel down, kiss the ground,
Kiss the ground, kiss the ground,
Kneel down, kiss the ground,
Kiss a bonnie lassie.

3.
Be Bo Babbity, Babbity, Babbity,
Be Bo Babbity, Babbity Bouster, Boully.
Kneel down and kiss the ground, kiss the ground, kiss
the ground,
Kneel down and kiss the ground, kiss a bonnie lassie.
Take any one you choose, sir, you choose, sir, you
choose, sir,
Take any one you choose, sir, the fairest in the ring.

4.
Bee, baw, babbity,
Babbity, babbity,
Bee, baw, babbity,
Bab at the bowster brawly.

Kneel down, kiss the ground,
Kiss the ground, kiss the ground,
Kneel down, kiss the ground,
Kiss a bonnie wee lassie.

I wadna hae a laddie O,
A laddie O, a laddie O,
I wadna hae a laddie O,
I'll choose a bonnie wee lassie.

Do our youngsters still delight in those lovely pastimes?
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:14:31
QUOTE(Edinton @ Apr 18 2008, 10:12 AM) [snapback]435808[/snapback]
One more step out of line from you and I'm resetting your post count!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey you-what's with the Danny McGrain Avatar?
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:16:59
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 18 2008, 10:14 AM) [snapback]435810[/snapback]
If by 'Shoogly' you mean Mortonjag, then yes.

Don't be silly McArthur-there's only one Auld Shoogly


One Auld Shoogly.
There's only one Auld Shoogly,
One Auld Shoogly.


Are you up for it? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:18:36
QUOTE(Edinton @ Apr 18 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]435813[/snapback]
That's not Danny McGrain, it's me... I got that tee shirt made when I took over as admin

You've got younger then!
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:20:59
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Apr 18 2008, 08:32 AM) [snapback]435744[/snapback]
Been thinking about if the team are struggling on the park then we fans should try and do something to help the team win. Despite thinking about this for a few days I have only come up with one idea- and it's s***e!

Get a loaf of bread and at some point during the second half, start throwing bread towards Paul Gallagher and let the seagulls do the business- just got this image of Paul Gallagher being attacked by a flock of gulls while the goals start raining in- any other ideas?

There is actually a very serious aspect to this. The seagulls used to perch on the cowshed roof in large numbers during our games. Recently they have been posted missing.
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:22:53
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 18 2008, 10:21 AM) [snapback]435819[/snapback]
Crawler! tongue.gif

The Newt must be obeyed-sometime's! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:46:11
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 18 2008, 10:29 AM) [snapback]435822[/snapback]
Well as our resident online doctor you are qualified to know where DDFR's heart is . The problem is that its not his heart thats called into question .







Oh doctor, I'm in trouble.
Well, goodness gracious me. For every time that Shoogly
Is standing next to me.
Mmm?
A flush comes to my face
And my pulse begins to race,
It goes boom boody-boom boody-boom boody-boom
Boody-boom boody-boom boody-boom-boom-boom,
Boom boody-boom boody-boom boody-boom
Well, goodness gracious me.

How often does this happen?
When did the trouble start?
You see, my stethoscope is bobbing
To the throbbing of your heart.
What kind of man is he
To create this allergy?
It goes boom boody-boom boody-boom boody-boom
Boody-boom boody-boom boody-boom-boom-boom,
Oh!
Boom boody-boom boody-boom boody-boom
Well, goodness gracious me.

From New Delhi to Darjeeling
I have done my share of healing,
And I've never yet been beaten or outboxed,
I remember that with one jab
Of my needle in the Punjab
How I cleared up beriberi
And the dreaded dysentery,
But your complaint has got me really foxed.
Oh.

Oh doctor, touch my fingers.
Well, goodness gracious me.
You may be very clever
But however, can't you see,
My heart beats much too much
At a certain tender touch,
It goes boom boody-boom boody-boom boody-boom
Boody-boom boody-boom boody-boom-boom-boom,
I like it!
Boom boody-boom boody-boom boody-boom
Well, goodness gracious me.

Can I see your tongue?
Aaah.
Nothing the matter with it, put it away please.
Maybe it's my back.
Maybe it is.
Shall I lie down?
Yes.
Ahhh...

My initial diagnosis
Rules out measles and thrombosis,
Sleeping sickness and, as far as I can tell,
Influenza, inflammation,
Whooping cough and night starvation,
And you'll be so glad to hear
That both your eyeballs are so clear
That I can positively swear that you are well,
Ja-ja, ja-ja-ja-ja.

Put two and two together,
Four,
If you have eyes to see,
The face that makes my pulses race
Is that of Shoogly
Oh, there is nothing I can do
For my heart is jumping too.
Oh, we go boom boody-boom boody-boom boody-boom
Boody-boom boody-boom boody-boom-boom-boom,
Goodness gracious,
How audacious!
Goodness gracious,
How flirtatious!
Goodness gracious,
It is you?
Ah, I'm sorry, it is him.
Ahhh
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:49:53
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 18 2008, 10:36 AM) [snapback]435824[/snapback]
Stop hijacking this thread ya old duffer mad.gif

I'd rather be a Shoogly than a quail!
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:51:46
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Apr 18 2008, 10:38 AM) [snapback]435828[/snapback]
Was watching sky news or news 24 yesterday and it was on the subject of knife crime, it was stating Red Ken was going to get tough on the possession of weapons and introduce mandatory sentences for carrying them, then they pan to some stupid cow in a shoogly studio stating that the perpetrators of knife crimes are often previous victims and that a better understanding of the reasons for carrying weapons needs to be addressed, jeezo I thought she was going to propose state subsidised Rambo knives or even carving classes, wake up and smell the coffee you stupid bint.

...being milked dry by the big man?
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:53:42
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Apr 18 2008, 10:43 AM) [snapback]435832[/snapback]
Is the final verse of that not a plan made up by Gary Glitter? huh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:55:02
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Apr 18 2008, 10:47 AM) [snapback]435837[/snapback]
Who cares?

They usually sent half decent teams and meant that the players involved got a bigger pay day.

I remember going to Martin Doak's testimonial as a 12 year old. At that time I'd go to the odd Morton game and I know for a fact neither my Mum, my three younger brothers or I would have been there that night if the game wasnt against Rangers with players like Ally McCoist and Duncan Ferguson playing (It would've been the same if it was againt Celtic before anyone accuses me of being a Rangers sympathiser).

It was nights like that one that actually hooked me on Morton games and got me going along regularly.

Totally agree-the Tims would have served the purpose equally well.
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:56:57
QUOTE(Carl Bertelson @ Apr 18 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]435838[/snapback]
This is one of the best threads I've read on here for a long long time, very reminiscent of Eddie's unofficial website.
A lot of very sensible discussion, for a change. As long as certain individuals, you know who you are, don't lower the tone of the discussion.

Indeed-anything about Mr Rae must be dealt with in awe and humility. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:59:47
QUOTE(Yoda @ Apr 18 2008, 10:54 AM) [snapback]435844[/snapback]
Yet another do-gooder trying to justify her own existence and employment, "we need a study into the cause" my arse. It never ceases to amaze me what pish they will come out with next. "oh he's not a bad boy - he just fell in with the wrong company" or "he's had a hard life and that's why he turned to heroin" absolute s***e.

Make them suffer the way their victims and victims families suffer. I am not saying that after considerable rehabilitation they should not be given a second chance, but they have to show a willingness and ability to make right what they have done wrong. But what rips my knitting more than anything else is these bloody do gooders trying to justify to themselves and the rest of society why they did it - THEY DO IT BECAUSE THEY ARE BAD WEE BARSTEWARDS WHO HAVE NO CONCEPT OF RIGHT OR WRONG AND NO IDEA OF HOW TO FUNCTION IN SOCIETY WITH THE MAJORITY OF LAW ABIDING PEOPLE.

We are in severe danger of becoming a society where good people do bad things in order to protect themselves and their own.

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mortonjag 2008-04-18 11:08:32
QUOTE(Yoda @ Apr 18 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]435851[/snapback]
ok why the perpetrators did it

I shouldn't rant tongue.gif

I wasn't actually picking you up on that double entendre-just thought you put it in a very amusing manner!


IMHO 75% of Social Work expenditure is a total waste.
mortonjag 2008-04-18 11:37:13
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Apr 18 2008, 11:29 AM) [snapback]435863[/snapback]
Get bright orange ones like that wee c*** that plays for Livi laugh.gif

And bleach your hair tongue.gif

...and become an instant wee c*nt! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 12:14:06 What I want to know is this-


DID Nukie Mairi eat the dog or not?
mortonjag 2008-04-18 12:20:58 Barbara Streisand

The Way We Were


Memories light the corner of my mind.
Misty water color memories
Of the way we were.

Scattered pictures of the smiles we left behind,
Smiles we gave to one another
For the way we were.

Can it be that it was all so simple then,
Or has time rewritten every line?
If we had the chance to do it all again,
Tell me? would we? could we?



Memories may be beautiful and yet,
What's too painful to remember
We simply choose to forget.

So it's the laughter
We will remember,
Whenever we remember
The way we were;
The way we were.



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mortonjag 2008-04-18 12:26:38
QUOTE(RadolfZitler @ Apr 18 2008, 12:18 PM) [snapback]435879[/snapback]
Spot on!

Ve have vays of making them to stop Mr Zitler-zee Birch vil virk vell--------for zee rest vee have zee shootten dedz.
mortonjag 2008-04-18 12:39:06
QUOTE(RadolfZitler @ Apr 18 2008, 12:32 PM) [snapback]435885[/snapback]
Yip too many binge drink but those who do then cant stop are just junkies they just use a different drug which is all to easily accepted because its legal. A man/woman addicted to alcohol is as likey to mug you to fuel their habit as a man/woman addicted to anything else. Alcohol causes just about every bit of trouble at the weekends in Inverclyde, stabbing, beatings, domestic violence etc etc theres no doubt alcohol is the worst. A recent study suggested that long term use of alcohol was worse than long term use of Ecstasy.

Don't be daft!

The rest of your post makes perfect sense.
mortonjag 2008-04-18 12:49:19
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 18 2008, 12:42 PM) [snapback]435889[/snapback]
ohmy.gif Gibby the erse watcher. I am gonna be standing right at the back of the shed with my erse to the shed wall mate after that revalation laugh.gif

I wouldn't worry too much Weegie-if he'd got close enough he'd have spotted the fact that it's just crayon. Such arse painters are well known for their inimitable ability to shift camp when the chips are down. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 12:55:32
QUOTE(RadolfZitler @ Apr 18 2008, 12:49 PM) [snapback]435892[/snapback]
You have the death penalty in some countires but you still have murderers. The police and courts already have the power to lock up people carrying knives its they that have to use them. I have been in a situation several times where some-one has been stabbed its not nice and living in this area its never far from home. The person carrying the knife would not have cared if their was a 2 year mandatory sentence. Something has to be done about the problem thats for sure but its much deeper than just bringing in mandatory sentencing which most of them will find a way to wriggle out of anyway. The birch would probably turn in to the new badge of honour TBH.

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Aye f*ckin' right.

'Fraid your perception of knife carrying 'hard men' is way wide of the mark, and I've seen hundreds of victims of stabbings-many of whom had also been perpetrators.

Little pink botty time would solve the problem-we wouldn't need courts-just witnesses, and WALLOP, WALLOP WALLOP till your cowardly little heroes are screaming for mercy AND THEN SOME.

Badge of honour!


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mortonjag 2008-04-18 15:47:14
QUOTE(nach0king @ Apr 18 2008, 01:31 PM) [snapback]435925[/snapback]
If anyone at the club tries to polish the turd that is the play-off then I for one won't be happy. The fact that ew're in this mess must be regarded only as a negative.

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HE WILL! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 15:49:19
QUOTE(suda @ Apr 18 2008, 02:08 PM) [snapback]435938[/snapback]
yeah maybe MJ will be bumping gums at Dougie that should create plenty of atmosphere

Not the time and place! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 15:52:54
QUOTE(ianton @ Apr 18 2008, 02:09 PM) [snapback]435940[/snapback]
Davie that's why he's been on my ignore for months now.he's a total dickhead.

Hee hee-another huff button clown boasting-what a shower of weak kneed little helmets! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 15:54:00
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 18 2008, 02:27 PM) [snapback]435943[/snapback]
Inside info mate. Can't reveal my sources wink.gif
Have to agree. They didn't look to clever that day.

They were in disarray as Kenny had just left. Things have changed.
mortonjag 2008-04-18 16:02:30
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 18 2008, 03:02 PM) [snapback]435952[/snapback]
That is it in a nutshell . We ae not talking the Russian revolution all we ae asking is that the chairman lets others do their jobs properly and for me a need to accept that things would improve if we had someone with knowledge of football to council DDFR in what are the best decisions to make for the long term .
If these changes put the club in a better position kudos to Mr Rae , we all get what we ultimately want .

Just what Mortonjag's been saying for long and weary Chris.

The old fud should still be at Cappielow, enjoying himself-for Jesus sake, he could have a bloody FOUR page spread in the programme, and I'd personally buy two bags of Buchanan's off him at every home game if he'd just DELEGATE.

Having said that, he'd need to open that big widden box under his bed too! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 16:05:31
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Apr 18 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]435979[/snapback]
No, the time and place for that would be a GMFC public meeting where opinions were invited and questions NOT answered.

No,..wait wink.gif

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2008-04-18 16:12:07
QUOTE(RadolfZitler @ Apr 18 2008, 01:04 PM) [snapback]435901[/snapback]
Big problem that when your living in certain areas as you already know.
I heard you loved the birch laugh.gif Surely as a Doctor you should be against harming anyone cool.gif

WHY? unsure.gif

QUOTE(.:BrIDo:. @ Apr 18 2008, 01:10 PM) [snapback]435903[/snapback]
I can see that aswell bein honest.

"Many times you had it?"

"5 times."

"f***sake man.. sore?"

"Aye man. Pure. Am hard but."

"See him, he's had it the birch 5 times... legend"

And so forth and so forth. Talk to anyone at the age of 13-16 and most of them will happily tell you about their uncle, cousin, brother or other relative who is or has been in the nick, or how they're some how related to one of the toon's nutcases. To be honest, when people say that the attitudes need changed, I think they're right, but I disagree with all the f***ing cottonwool s***e they're trying to implement. f***in beat the kids into good members of society. Alot of the time the parents don't help much either, and, as has been said, would rather blame society or X, Y and Z than their own failings.

I don't think some folk have quite grasped the concept of birching, with skinning alive and mincing for second offences.

QUOTE(ianton @ Apr 18 2008, 02:20 PM) [snapback]435942[/snapback]
fact 99% of the time it stems from the parents.lets birch them too.

What a clown you are.

FACT more than half of those wee c*nts don't know at least one parent, but by all means birch the parents too if you'd like that. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 16:16:19
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 18 2008, 03:14 PM) [snapback]435961[/snapback]
That was a subtle dig on Se65an's thread about
being disappointed in DDFR . For all those who never want to discuss things when they are brought up . laugh.gif

I'm sure if Shoogly got involved in our little rag, Mortonjag would soon be trailing FAR behind. He'd probably have 90% under the huff button, while the remaining sycophantic 'hard core' would polish his ego and p.m. him endlessly!
mortonjag 2008-04-18 16:19:54
QUOTE(Yoda @ Apr 18 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]435936[/snapback]

That's very rude.
mortonjag 2008-04-18 16:24:00
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 18 2008, 04:21 PM) [snapback]435997[/snapback]
Bloody work filters won't let me see it. Can you describe it to me please?

Two bunny rabbits indulging in oral sex (though not a la soixante neuf)!

I think one is Shoogly, but I'm not sure which one's doing the 'sookin'.
mortonjag 2008-04-18 17:24:05
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Apr 18 2008, 04:40 PM) [snapback]436015[/snapback]
Give it a rest eh

Alex Williams will NEVER play for Morton again.


End of discussion.

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mortonjag 2008-04-18 21:54:21
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 18 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]436131[/snapback]
Quite the contrary. Eeze are good - Ebeneezer Good. biggrin.gif About as true as 'Guinness is good for you' I reckon. Drugs (including alcohol) are only good for getting you out your face. Absolutely fine if you can manage the consequences- if not, you might wind up in trouble. But every fecker who's done drugs and drink should know that anyway. My advice is, if you want to get 'out yer face', take care not to get into anybody else's face. Don't do unto others as you do unto yourself.

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Wise words.

It's funny recalling those old adverts about Guinness being 'good for you', and 'giving you strength'!

The fag ads were even better-'Players please' and 'Let Capstan take the strain' spring to mind.


I was thinking of one for Ecstasy.


'Ees yourself gently into immortality'. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 22:00:25
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 18 2008, 06:17 PM) [snapback]436059[/snapback]
ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

mortonjag, why did you do that ?

It's totally provocative - Colkitto will be shattered.

Do you have any evidence ?

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Oh indeed Newt, Moira's tea parties are the talk of Holyrood.


'One lump or two Mr Soutar'?

'Oh don't worry Moira', pipes up the Nickerless one, everything's in place with our Brian'.

etc.
mortonjag 2008-04-18 22:02:40
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Apr 18 2008, 09:58 PM) [snapback]436164[/snapback]
At least E's don't make ye piss blood after hammering them for a week. Well, I don't think they do. Drugs are for mugs kids.

Haematuria should always be investigated!
mortonjag 2008-04-18 22:05:39
QUOTE(ton1901 @ Apr 18 2008, 05:40 PM) [snapback]436046[/snapback]
Dougie should try and strike a deal swapping dobbie with weatherson...please do so at least cause he is robbing us at the monent

For next season I'd prefer to see all 'deals' done by folk with a grain of knowledge about the running of a football club.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 07:59:01
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 18 2008, 11:09 PM) [snapback]436183[/snapback]
I find Morton fans on here calling the Morton chairman "an old fud" in very bad taste, whether you like the man or not.


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What do you want us to call the old fud?

GOD


He is rapidly losing the respect of all but the total hard liners. Wake up and smell the coffee!
QUOTE(Cawston @ Apr 18 2008, 11:35 PM) [snapback]436190[/snapback]
As Donga said, whatever you think of the man the 'old fud' comment is in poor taste.

PS. 'Personally buy two bags of Buchanans's off him', don't give us your nonesense Jag.

You had the chance to get up close and personal with Ol Doug and despite all you obsessions you shat it for the second year running, don't think for a minute that it hasn't been well noted by happy clapper and boo boy alike laugh.gif laugh.gif

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F*ck you Cawstick. I have just swapped a pm with somebody who DID attend the Q & A and says he endorses my decision not to go.

He was totally disgusted by that old fud's refusal to listen,let alone answer anything unless it suited him.

Mr Rae makes sweeties, tells lies, and can't run a football club to save himself.

'Old fud' may well be a compliment.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:03:03
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 18 2008, 09:24 PM) [snapback]436150[/snapback]
The guy is a great advert for British imperialism sad.gif

I'm sure Shoogly would relate well to him.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:05:11
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 18 2008, 11:17 PM) [snapback]436187[/snapback]
Are PrincessTon and Tooth and Nail providing the pies at half time?
I am most DEFINITELY getting my coat and of course mean no offence ladies!

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You show little respect for the dignity of the fairer sex hairy one.

I'd describe you as a young fud, in fact.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:06:50
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 19 2008, 07:50 AM) [snapback]436256[/snapback]
Mind you as long as the hoops don't go green. Doglas Rae would be in paradise (pardon the pun) to see us all in the shed with blue hoops faded green.

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mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:08:56
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 18 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]436149[/snapback]
The Golden Lions drop in to take the flag away and kidnap Jamie Stevenson who is still in the huff since the first game .

Dougie takes to the park and thanks the Celtic supporters for their continued loyalty .

InverAlly admits hes had a crush on Morton assistant manager since she starred in the Stud .

Mark Farrell will usher the players off after 20 minutes to start work on the upgrades to the playing surface .

Cappie the Cat goes missing along with a large bag and some bricks from the stand .

Jim McInally , Adam Coakley return for a lap of honour .

Oh and I win the h-t draw

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mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:14:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 18 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]436078[/snapback]
does bacon have 4 legs ?

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Our little 'Streaky' did-he could run like the wind until we cut his throat, and chopped him up for the Barbi.

Oh and he could squeal like a pig wean with a bag of Millions.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:21:14
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 19 2008, 02:29 AM) [snapback]436237[/snapback]
Yes, but not enough to think you're witty.

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mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:25:27
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Apr 18 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]436170[/snapback]
It was. My insides were f***ed after drinking paint stripper-esque vodka with Pink Fish (a s***ey Red Bull rip off) for a week. It stopped soon after thankfully.

PINK PISH! You should have read the label!!!
mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:29:03
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 18 2008, 10:11 PM) [snapback]436172[/snapback]
Or 'Craven A - Good for your throat'. laugh.gif

Indeed that was one of THE worst!

My dad used to smoke a little known Brand called 'Barons', and of course when I flirted with fags in my teenage it was always Barons, or a threepenny single if I was skint.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:30:39
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 19 2008, 02:55 AM) [snapback]436243[/snapback]
I like a wee swally but it has never made me feel like attacking someone with a hammer , although that doesn't mean that I ain't had some rather worrying moments ( I was a pucker and nearly bit the dust a few times along with sleeping in some rather curious places )
Never done hash , as smoking is clatty and pill popping wasn't so widly available so I cannot really comment on what is the worst for you . I suppose it all depends on how much and how long you put your body through it .
Its easy to blame the substance rather than the people taking it , if you get the paranoid head on after a few voddies why have them ? Alcohol is in't a problem for everyone just those who make it their excuse for unacceptable behaviour .

...and those who are addicted!
mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:31:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 19 2008, 03:26 AM) [snapback]436246[/snapback]
Is it true that after 99,999 posts, the count resets to zero like an odometer ?

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You will find out in October.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:33:48
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 19 2008, 08:13 AM) [snapback]436263[/snapback]
I have some experience of working in a morgue and a stiff back is certainly a problem. although I cannot say I ever came across any of the problems highlighted in that article

I think it was more the stiffs' generalised blubber!
mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:36:05
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 19 2008, 07:15 AM) [snapback]436252[/snapback]
sad!

indeed, and that's not half of it! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:37:23
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 19 2008, 07:18 AM) [snapback]436253[/snapback]
You must be joking! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Perhaps her heart's in the right place! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:39:36
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 19 2008, 07:23 AM) [snapback]436255[/snapback]
I believe Mr MJ and possibly his monkey are already infatuated with Ms Sturgeon! laugh.gif

I'd rather shag Shoogly's wallies.

The Monkey's away being sick.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:42:04
QUOTE(good guy @ Apr 19 2008, 08:18 AM) [snapback]436265[/snapback]
Looks like i'm going to be late for kick off today. Anyone got any idea what time the turnstyles close?

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You're jokin'

Rae will still let you in at 4.44 p.m. if we're losin' 5-0 AND you'll be charged! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:47:34 It's been a comin' folks-we've been SO close SO often-we should have beaten Dundee, and we COULD have beaten The Saints.

The Pars are safe-they have little to play for. It's in the bag, and Clyde will be shagged rotten by the plastic playpen.

Tonight we will be in eight position. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:53:41
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 19 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]436278[/snapback]
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kentish man or man of kent? we should be told tongue.gif

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I do not divulge the identity of my MANY friends Trumpet!

I have, however, spoken the truth. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:59:39
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 19 2008, 08:55 AM) [snapback]436280[/snapback]
you might find that after 32767, they turn negative rolleyes.gif

Is that what happened to your w*nk tally Trumpet?
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:04:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 19 2008, 08:59 AM) [snapback]436283[/snapback]
whit's a wally ?

Not a Wall's ice cream, I trust.

whit a mental image

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wallies pl n (Central Scot)
dialect false teeth; dentures
(see wally2)

Collins Eng Def-Thes


QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 19 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]436284[/snapback]
are you questioning her humanity ??

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She has a certain anthropoid look!
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:06:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 19 2008, 09:02 AM) [snapback]436285[/snapback]
are you 100% certain ??

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Don't be daft-I was just trying to provoke intelligent discussion.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:09:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 19 2008, 09:05 AM) [snapback]436288[/snapback]
are Millions similar to Smarties ??

Smarties are manufactured by a humungous Swiss Confectionery conglomerate.

Millions are churned out by Shoogly in person at the old Torpedo Factory, and distributed Nationwide in his one delivery lorry.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:11:30
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 19 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]436291[/snapback]
well the superior stuff walks on 2, of course

Profound for this time of day Trumpet!
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:12:44
QUOTE(good guy @ Apr 19 2008, 08:56 AM) [snapback]436281[/snapback]
Thanks thats very helpful.

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You'll get in fine!

I don't know when they stop charging.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:14:47
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 19 2008, 09:05 AM) [snapback]436287[/snapback]
but i'm sure all the citizens of tunbridge wells feel similarly aggrieved smile.gif

I couldn't give a f*ck about that shower of Kents.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:16:15
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 19 2008, 09:13 AM) [snapback]436294[/snapback]
Actually I have a little bit of sympathy for Wendy. Not only is her brother Douglas more intelligent than she is but he's also better looking.

...and shaves.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:19:02
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 19 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]436296[/snapback]
See this comedy classic at 10:30am this morning on BBC Parliament. smile.gif

You'd be better off at Chez Maman, Pimpleknob!
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:20:57
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 19 2008, 09:16 AM) [snapback]436297[/snapback]
I heard there was a helicopter over the cemetery.

Dear, dear-they have absolutely no respect for our dead.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:22:45
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 19 2008, 09:19 AM) [snapback]436301[/snapback]
would these young Washington women increase the Cappielow crowd numbers ?

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No-the May Hughes dancers would exit in the huff and Mr Rae might get over excited!
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:23:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 19 2008, 09:22 AM) [snapback]436305[/snapback]
on this forum ??

ROTFL

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Are you scorning effort? mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:25:27
QUOTE(lemmington @ Apr 19 2008, 09:23 AM) [snapback]436307[/snapback]
I thought this was a quick question?

So did I, and it was just a silly one!
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:26:45
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Apr 19 2008, 09:24 AM) [snapback]436310[/snapback]
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I suppose it's the thought that counts though, and it's one I agree with wink.gif

BELIEVE
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:28:46
QUOTE(good guy @ Apr 19 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]436314[/snapback]
Yeah, me too:angry: Seriously though might not get there till half time. Does anyone know if i'll still get in?

FFS MAN-of COURSE YOU'LL GET IN-the big gate's open and shut like Shoogly's wallies at half time-you are quite safe!
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:30:50
QUOTE(good guy @ Apr 19 2008, 09:28 AM) [snapback]436320[/snapback]
You really are an arrogant boring old tosser.

No I'm not GG-you claim to be a season ticket holder and worry in case you'll be prevented from exercising your privilege. That, IMHO, is daft! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:32:20
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 19 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]436327[/snapback]
Morton win at home.

Guaranteed DE-no surprise to those in the know!
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:39:01
QUOTE(capitanus @ Apr 19 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]436326[/snapback]
I havent commented on this thread yet, but i see that it has decended into another ego-trip for MortonJag. How many other threads is that dick going to hijack with his self-indulgent ramblings?

For what its worth, i'm not DDFR's biggest fan by any stretch of the imagination, and the guy has made many errors in his time at Morton, but he doesn't deserve to be compared to a Paedophile, as MortonJag done earlier in this thread. If I was DDFR or a member of his family reading through this thread I would have found that a whole load more offensive than being called a 'Fud'.

One of the things I am not happy about in recent times at Morton was the signing of Adam Coakley, who was freed at Motherwell and freed at Partick Thistle shortly afterwards without kicking a ball for them in anger, but Morton sign him. I am convinced the main reason behind Coakley coming here was for reasons other than football, namely that he has a rich father interested in investing in a football club and as a favour between two rich men, rather than because he was any good at football. As a football supporter i can accept that Hospitality, Sponsorship, Trackside Advertising, Boardroom positions etc. are bought and sold, but i want to see the team consist of players playing on merit, whether good or bad, and not because someones rich daddy is buying a dream for him.

That whole affair just cheapened Morton for me.



Dr Mortonjag to you, you ignorant wee fud-not some jumped up sugar boiler who happened to be in the right place at the right time.


Why, incidentally, is it fine for you to call our Chairman's integrity into question?

For the record (and those who are just about to jump on the bandwagon) I have never 'compared Mr Rae' to a paedophile, though Caputupanus is too dim to interpret even the clearest of English prose. wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:41:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 19 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]436315[/snapback]
there is a time and a place for everything.

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I'd love to say something very naughty!
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:45:28
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 19 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]436335[/snapback]
well there goes another theory, although it appears to have gone over moronjag's head rolleyes.gif

laugh.gif Mortonjag is a Medic -Trumpet-not a numbers cruncher-though do have another J Arthur as you explain! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:49:51
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Apr 19 2008, 09:38 AM) [snapback]436331[/snapback]
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That's done it, where's that Jeff Beck CD... wink.gif

Chrissiboi can be a bitch at times!
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:50:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 19 2008, 09:48 AM) [snapback]436338[/snapback]
that post is rank.

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I agwee.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:51:40
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 19 2008, 09:49 AM) [snapback]436339[/snapback]
nothing has stopped you before.

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VERY naughty!
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:52:57
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 19 2008, 09:47 AM) [snapback]436337[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDDon't be a clown Pimpleknob-there were nae burglar alarms in thae times.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 10:01:14 I'm afraid I can't quite get my head round the concept of the Chairman being above criticism. Week in, week out, honest young professional footballers are ripped to shreds on those forums-often for no better reason than that their face doesn't fit.

Politicians are left without a name day and daily, minority groups are laughing stock, sexism and ageism are rampant, and poor old God is pilloried relentlessly.

Call an old fud an old fud, and suddenly you've broken the 11th commandment! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-19 10:07:36
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 19 2008, 10:01 AM) [snapback]436356[/snapback]
not the clearest of english prose, but clear enough
i'm dim like capitanus, although to be fair to moronjag, the comparison involved 'every bloody paedo'



He's only doing what he believes is right-is that it-just like Hitler and every bloody paedo who's prowled our playgrounds?

What's your problem Trumpet?

'He is only doing what he thinks is right' is trotted out by the Shooglyphiles in justification of his bizarre behaviour.

Hitler, and those paedos thought/think they are right-I was merely alluding to the inaccuracy of the concept AS YOU VERY WELL KNOW-you troublemaking child.

In any case why the hostility to my comment-do you know something I don't? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-19 10:12:24
QUOTE(capitanus @ Apr 19 2008, 10:02 AM) [snapback]436357[/snapback]
DDFR isn't a bad guy, you may not like him, you may not agree with his actions, many others on here dont and that fine. But he's hardly Jonathan King in Jackboots.

I think that if DDFR were reading your drivel he'd have found that comment pretty hurtful.

Aye, okay then. Dr. Dick Mortonjag. Does that make you feel any better?
Nobody is saying its not okay for you to question DDFRs actions. You are just making it too personal, as you always do.

Sorry Captain Rae-nae offence meant to your family.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 10:15:21
QUOTE(good guy @ Apr 19 2008, 10:04 AM) [snapback]436359[/snapback]
Its because of people like you others dont contribute and just lurk. If you thought it was a daft question you should have just ignored it. If in the future I have another I'll be sure to run it by you first so you can give it your seal of approval.

I don't think the forum was ever intended for humourless stuffed shirts-so be it.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 10:17:07
QUOTE(nach0king @ Apr 19 2008, 10:14 AM) [snapback]436368[/snapback]
Mortonjag's just typing what he thinks is right, just like every nazi and bottler.

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No, on second thoughts rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-19 10:18:11
QUOTE(Capuan @ Apr 19 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]436372[/snapback]
Were you out on the razz last nite?

Not at all young man-I just have this ability to see things early! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-19 10:22:12
QUOTE(Sammario @ Apr 19 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]436377[/snapback]
I dunno. There's so much wrong with that explanation I'm unsure where to start. The Hitler comparison is just nonsense.

The other point, let my ask for clarification. Are you saying Peadophiles think they do nothing wrong when they abuse children?

I'm saying that 'only doing what one thinks is right' is NOT a justification for any action.

Only doing what one 'knows' is right, is entirely different.

Your final point-sexual 'deviants'- be they common or garden pufes and lesbeans, or the rarer snail shaggers, believe that their urges are normal.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 10:23:15
QUOTE(capitanus @ Apr 19 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]436374[/snapback]
Apology accepted. rolleyes.gif

Out of interest, we all know youre a wealthy chap and not one of the wage-slaves like myself an others on here, do you have enough cash to buy into Morton if the opportunity arose?

5th amendment
mortonjag 2008-04-19 10:28:58
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 19 2008, 10:20 AM) [snapback]436378[/snapback]
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i do think you failed to make that clear, darling, don't you? no wonder you're so sorely misunderstood!

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No sweet Trumpet, I'm sorely and frequently misunderstood by clots who are too thick to understand plain English, and erroneously imagine that I personally dislike Mr Rae, when I simply DESPISE his behaviour in respect of OUR club.

Anyway it's all water off a duck's back to me. I warned in plenty of time about Mileson and McInally, and in turn took a huge amount of abuse from many of our posters, who know very well who they are.

Rae is single handedly and stubbornly dragging the club down-there-I put that quite courteously.

I'm sure the old fud will approve.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 10:38:29
QUOTE(Sammario @ Apr 19 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]436386[/snapback]
Of course it's not but the Hitler comparison is still ridiculous.

FFS!! You're other point is even worse! What makes a gay person a deviant? That, along with the statement on peadophiles is a sweeping generalisation.

About the peadophile comment, As Nacho has said, and in things i've also read there seems to be a recurring theme that they understand they shouldn't do what they do as it's wrong but do it because they want to. Another sweeping generalisation I know but i wouldn;t even want to start looking into whether there are any sort of stats or figures on whether a peapophole knows they're in the wrong.

Because he 'deviates'-quite simple really.

If the truth were told, there seem to be many aspects of the Chairman's behaviour which are clearly dictatorial, determined, and ruthless.

Finally don't start telling me about 'what you've read' in an attempt to contradict my knowledge of the subject.

....and don't bother with a smart one line rejoinder to that either!
mortonjag 2008-04-20 08:19:14
QUOTE(Capuan @ Apr 20 2008, 03:55 AM) [snapback]436828[/snapback]
Spot on!! I was wrong to doubt!

So what's in mortonjags crystal ball for next saturday?

There is no way we're going to Firhill for less than three points. Thistle have peaked, and McColl's looking towards next season. It's now in our hands.

It's the Clyde Stirling result which is harder to call-will Alan Moore just lie down to them, or will his boys be playing for pride?

Anyway-what the hell-no shower of second division wannabes will ever beat the mighty Ton on current form. We are SAFE and SOUND. Sort some other 'trivial' issues dry.gif and we'll be challenging for the SPL in the near future. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 08:23:09
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 19 2008, 10:40 PM) [snapback]436716[/snapback]
today was the first time in months where ive felt the breaks went our way and we got the luck of the bounce etc.

i said to my mate just before half time when the dunfermline player missed that sitter that that miss could save our season, and in the pub later he was like " you know how you said that? well you were right ".

good thing that luck may be on our side at the most crucial time of the season.
it also just shows that if you cut out induvidual errors that cost us goals we can be as good as at least half the teams in this league.

PT talks more s***e.

We MADE our luck yesterday, and those c*nts had THREE clearances off the line. It could have been 6-0 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 08:29:18
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Apr 19 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]436669[/snapback]
Just found out, I'm afraid.

Correct

QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 19 2008, 09:59 PM) [snapback]436691[/snapback]
Surely we should be starting a thread on Walker rather than MacGregor ?
Again ,I like MacGregor as a player but last week DI must have thought he was at fault for some of the goals

Another example of the management team gauging what they need from individuals .

Correct



QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Apr 20 2008, 12:18 AM) [snapback]436765[/snapback]
Your idea of being perceptive is my idea of being a fud and no doubt we will never agree upon this, however surely you can't argue that McGregor has given his best for Morton (limited or otherwise) through thick and thin and deserves respect accordingly!

Correct-DM has been a model professional and excellent servant to the club.

That, however, should not have blinded the powers that be to his deficiencies. Alex Walker was dealt a bum hand by JM and it's taken till now for reality to dawn. Yesterday he looked light years ahead of DM AND McLaughlin when it came to effectiveness.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 08:31:37 Walker's just another player JM ALMOST managed to ruin. Stevenson will probably make it elsewhere.

Those are but two.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 08:32:29
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Apr 19 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]436704[/snapback]
Walker hit the ball against McIntyre's gob (a sore one right enough) and McIntyre made a move towards Walker in an aggressive manner. Paartalu shoved him away from Walker and was booked for his efforts. I was glad to see the Assistant Referee calling the Referee's attention to McIntyre's behaviour and he was then rightly booked. Good to see Morton aren't as easily intimidated any more! wink.gif

Smiffy gets it right! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 08:35:26 If we win and the result at Broadwood is favourable, will we be tossing Mr Rae?
mortonjag 2008-04-20 08:42:20
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 19 2008, 07:01 PM) [snapback]436602[/snapback]
aah, that's much better.

now perhaps we can start to work on your attitude, mr mcmurphy smile.gif

There's nothing wrong with my attitude Trumpet, and if I was Chairman of Greenock Morton, I'd sure employ guys who could and then f*ckin' let them.


SIMPLE REALLY.

The old fud is a liability.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 08:45:05
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 19 2008, 02:01 PM) [snapback]436443[/snapback]
Toby asked 3 questions on the night the first was to ask if the chairman knew how offended how some supporters felt after comments made in his programme notes - DDFR was verging on an apology or as close as he would ever have come to one before going off in a tangent . When he returned to planet earth he had changed tracked and said he wouldn't retract anything .

The second was about Golden Caskets continued involvement and would there be any possibility of shareholders saying enough is enough - Dougie retorted with a joke about Toby buying the club and went onto say that GC is a private company .

The 3rd , Toby asked about better and earlier information with regards of preseason tours so supporters could sort out holidays . Yes was the answer but I think the 2 previous questions had irked DDFR somewhat .
I honestlt thought Toby who I have never met or spoke to put sensible questions at the q+a but if the chaiman gets irated by a supporters concerns at a q+a its no wonder he thinks that the coin throwing Celtic supporters are Scotlands Finest . When they are at the San Siro they can't throw that far ....

I went and my opinion of DDFR changed on a positive note I was thoroughly taken with Irons and Collins knowledge and understanding of the problems we have , whether they can fix them is another debate .

You were disappointed that Rae steadfastly avoided answering your questions I believe! Mortonjag made a wise decision, unlike the several hundred of his critics who rampaged over each other in eagerness to hang on the Shooglemeister's every fart. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 08:46:18
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Apr 19 2008, 08:44 PM) [snapback]436658[/snapback]
Just out of curiosity, where were you?
Nope.

However, the jag's £500p/w NHS pension could no doubt pay Blufferson's wages and send him to Celebrity Fit Club. tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-20 08:50:56
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Apr 19 2008, 08:53 PM) [snapback]436659[/snapback]
Didn't think his overall play was THAT good but still a dam site better than Weatherson. Got through a power of work which compensated for his heavy first touch and slow speed of thought.

There was a couple of occasions in the first half when if he'd been a bit quicker to spot a simple pass Jim and Kev respectively were both in acres of space.

The chance he hit the bar with was a sitter as well. I hope that comedy of errors doesn't come back to haunt us.

Overall, though, I'm happy with him and hope he starts again with Russell next week who incidentally should NEVER have been dropped from the team in the first place. Our best all round forward by some distance, imo.

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QUOTE(JonaTon @ Apr 19 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]436664[/snapback]
I agree with this Bob. In particular the part highlighted - which I think is key.

Wakey gave us everything he's got, and it aint a lot-full credit to the mighty KHALI!

It just goes to show how potent a fit and on form Spoonsy and LEAFY could be together-those who were at the Gretna cup tie at Palmerston might agree!
mortonjag 2008-04-20 08:53:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 20 2008, 01:17 AM) [snapback]436789[/snapback]
Could today have hammered the final nail in the coffin of Weatherson's Morton career?

hopefully it will just make him see that even with " rubbish " on the bench, he's not irreplaceable and that the team probably plays better without him.

get the feeling he's on his final chance, im not 100% sure wether i want him to take it or not.

Kicking folk when they're down is for cowards.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 08:55:31
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 19 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]436720[/snapback]
Did anyone else see when we were 3-0 up the ball went out for a throw and Irons ran about a quarter of the pitch to get the ball back because he wanted more goals?

along with everything else i have seen from the man this just confirmed to me that he is exactly the kind of person i want in charge of Morton.

Mr Irons is doing a lot better than Mr McInally who was the idol of the fans less than a short year ago.

Fans are odd.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 08:59:12
QUOTE(mccaff @ Apr 20 2008, 12:01 AM) [snapback]436758[/snapback]
generous ratings but lets face it dunfermline were playing a training game

Indeed-that's why they got three bookings! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:02:26 I don't know why you lot play this stupid wee game-it's for weans. I give them ALL ten-there was not a failure in yesterday's side.

Quite simple really! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:04:38
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 20 2008, 09:02 AM) [snapback]436853[/snapback]
I do agree that Walker has something to offer the team however I think his performance yesterday only highlighted his recent lack of games.

EH-he was signed from the Huns as an ATTACKING MIDFIELDER and has been used as a general dogsbody ever since. I believe Alex will make it at SPL level in time.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:05:40
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 20 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]436856[/snapback]
I don't think McIntyre got booked in that incident as I'm sure he'd already got a yellow. Going by his reaction I thought it was Greacan who got booked along with Paartalu.

It was McINtyre.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:07:56
QUOTE(Cawston @ Apr 20 2008, 09:05 AM) [snapback]436858[/snapback]
Decision laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

You let the side down Jag, no point in kidding yourself otherwise tongue.gif

One of my friends who attended told me he now totally understands my considered decision Cawstick.

Unlike certain older 'fans' the Jag NEVER lets the side down! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:10:51
QUOTE(Scapaflow @ Apr 20 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]436855[/snapback]
No way was Walker near a 9 or 10
He was to blame for being caught out of position for the chance they had in first have(the sitter). Lucky for us the player blew the chance. Walker was a 7 at best

Golly gosh-only a SEVEN for a guy who's just come back after being wasted by JM, and who was still playing out of his natural position. His composure and forward thinking put Davie McGregor and Scott McLaughlin (two of JM's wee favourites) to shame.

10 points for him and all the rest!
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:12:36
QUOTE(Tooth & Nail @ Apr 20 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]436861[/snapback]
Shows why he is our manager, he can see when changes need to be made. JM would not have done so. Well done Davie Irons biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

You'll be changing that avatar then? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:14:18
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 20 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]436852[/snapback]
Given that Weatherson signedx a 3 year deal in November I doubt he'll be going anywhere soon. This may be just the kick in the arse he needs. Wake looked like a totally different player to the one who first arrived at Cappielow. His touch was great and the ball stuck to his feet, he held the ball well. Credit also to Russell who despite his inability to finish, he played really well and worked hard. The one time he was actually onside and clear on goal from the half way line, the shed side linesman raised his flag.

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Brian indeed worked his baws off!
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:16:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 20 2008, 03:42 AM) [snapback]436826[/snapback]
The newspaper that reported Russian President Vladimir Putin was set to marry a gymnast lover has been shut down.

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The Moskovski Korrespondent claimed Putin had secretly divorced his wife and was engaged to former Olympian and nude model Alina Kabayeva earlier this week.

Billionaire owner Alexander Lebedev �†who, like Putin, is a former KGB agent �†closed the newspaper down after the president issued an angry denial.

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However, the publication's editors continue to defy the Kremlin, despite being forced to issue an apology.

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The Korrespondent's editor earlier resigned in protest while the deputy editor declared he stands by the story.

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Will Salmond and Nicola have this much power in an independent Scotland ?

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Only if they get their own way Newt.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:18:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 19 2008, 08:36 PM) [snapback]436655[/snapback]
Does Inverclyde not have a Neighbourhood Watch scheme ?

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It keeps a close eye on thae Pishley c*nts.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:20:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 19 2008, 08:26 PM) [snapback]436651[/snapback]
Morgue buys forklift truck for obese

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23568402-29277,00.html
He told The Sun-Herald that putrefaction - the degradation of soft tissue - was speeded up in morbidly obese patients, making handling difficult.

"A fat person will go off more quickly than a skinny person," Dr Orde said.

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Holy mackerel!
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:21:25
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 19 2008, 08:06 PM) [snapback]436644[/snapback]
Don't be daft ya auld fanny, that was added in the 19th century.

I KNEW it wasn't original.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:23:06
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Apr 19 2008, 01:20 PM) [snapback]436431[/snapback]
1800 may well have been MJ himself.

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only 1679 you sicko fud!
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:24:35
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 19 2008, 02:17 PM) [snapback]436448[/snapback]
Spammers.

Did you mean spanners? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:26:02
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 19 2008, 08:34 PM) [snapback]436654[/snapback]
with a name like honor todd, there was me thinking you were a single mum.

job done by the sounds of it.

Definitely sounds like a foxy lady!
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:28:35
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 19 2008, 11:15 PM) [snapback]436731[/snapback]
I guess it's games like today that make you glad you support a great club like the ton, and maybe its the finishing the first bottle of shiraz that's got me thinking about our current predicament.

But with 44m in the bank - I would quit the day job and seriously consider buying GMFC

I would keep Davy and Derek in place and give them some freedom to bring in some fresh talent - sure we proved today that we can compete - I would also give the fans a greater say on the board and how the club was run.

What, if anything would you do to change the club?

Firstly I'd buy Mr Rae an appropriate going away present, AND a lifetime season ticket for the cowshed which wouldn't cost too much I'd guess.

I'll think about the rest and come back to you.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:47:04
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 20 2008, 09:24 AM) [snapback]436874[/snapback]
Did the polis lift him for it? ohmy.gif

Or was he grabbed by the fuzz? laugh.gif

...and charged with wearing a non regulation helmet?
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:48:49
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 19 2008, 12:30 PM) [snapback]436421[/snapback]
Like Mr McArthur, I am secure in my own sexuality.

McArthur's into bondage too? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:51:52
QUOTE(Ray Von @ Apr 20 2008, 01:47 AM) [snapback]436804[/snapback]
Dave Irons is his own man, don't think he'll be bullied into buying players he doesn't want. Hopefully he'll spend the close season building his own team.

Hopefully that is true, but so is Douglas Rae and he pays the wages. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:54:13
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Apr 20 2008, 09:25 AM) [snapback]436875[/snapback]
Peter being 'down' is entirely self inflicted. I hope someone at Cappielow kicks him back onto his feet again, or ship him out double quick time.

Whether or not it's self inflicted is possibly up for debate, though I understand where you're coming from. Perhaps 'kicking him back onto his feet' is the wrong approach. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 10:00:58
QUOTE(Scapaflow @ Apr 20 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]436880[/snapback]
I don't care what you think, hes still a seven, if the pars had scored then it would have been a different game. Other players have played out of position many times this season and don't merit a 10. I am not doubting the team played well but to give all players a 10 is not right as it doesn't distiguished those who played outstanding yesterday well above others.

While I'm at it Weatherson was, is, and always will be a striker is a joke you have also mentioned on here. Wake did more today than Peter has done all season. Goes to show we can't trust your judgement.
You may as well also reply as you need to keep up your posting ratio for this board laugh.gif

Mortonjag makes provocative statements, but refrains from uttering patent inaccuracies. Only two weeks ago Wakey was being pilloried by the majority of our posters, having showed very little promise or talent. He has worked very hard and got the deserved results, but can never hold a candle to Spoonsy in terms of footballing ability.

Oh- and somebody else has already pointed out that you were talking keech about Alex Walker! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 13:23:01
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Apr 20 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]436949[/snapback]
Peter is technically brilliant, but he can be his own worst enemy sometimes

Wakey knows he isn't the most able player, but his effort and workrate can make up for it.

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mortonjag 2008-04-20 13:34:50
Whatever eases the embarrasment oh beloved wordsmith wink.gif
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Don't be daft. I.m not used to having my questions ignored by a sugar boiler.That WOULD have been red face time.

mortonjag 2008-04-20 13:37:53
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Apr 20 2008, 09:22 AM) [snapback]436870[/snapback]
John Wilson, along with DDF Rae where told about Shuggie Scott and his dodgy dealings 6 months before he took over at Cappielow, I should know, it was me who told them. When his interest first came to light I was advised by a Killie shareholder that our ground would be used for development. I shared this with both of our directors after waiting to speak to them after a game.
John Wilson basically ignored me, but DDF to his credit listened to what I had to say but ultimately my worries where ignored.
Now whether DDF tried to tell JW, I will never know, but I believe they do not get on at all now and maybe DDF blames JW for bringing us so close to our demise.

When HS came onto the pitch with a Morton scarf above his head my heart sank and the words of my Killie supporting pal echoed in my head.

The only other time I spoke with JW was the Mathie fiasco and he was ignorant and very arrogant towards the Morton fans who wanted answers. And once again DDF listened to those fans, that is why I think he will be very, very careful if he ever sells up. He is a hard nosed businessman, and I do not agree with the way he runs the club, but I trust him to make sure our future is in good hands.

Listening and hearing are different things. Rae has a history of hearing what he wants to hear. I agree, however, that he'd never deliberately sell the club down the river.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 13:40:46
QUOTE(stubaws @ Apr 20 2008, 12:18 PM) [snapback]436963[/snapback]
i think the ref should've had a quiet word and let it go as it wasn't a dirty game. well done to the linesman though, theres no way the ref could've booked paartalu then let mcintyre get away with nothing, both as 'bad' as each other in this case. would expect more from mcintyre though, guys been around for ages and is the manager, should know better. he could do with having a wee chat with his players though, was that 3 of them booked yesterday for dissent? simmons got boked within about 2 minutes of coming on!

The Pars came out after half time ready to mix it. It could have got nasty.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 13:43:42
QUOTE(piehutt @ Apr 20 2008, 10:53 AM) [snapback]436907[/snapback]
I had been fairly confident we'd have got the win. Missed a few games of late, but was upbeat about the positive reports coming from matches v Dundee an St Johnstone where it seems we were unlucky not to take more from these games.

However, there was plenty flowing, silky football played yesterday and in the end Dunfermline can count themselves fairly fortunate not to have been beaten by more than 3-0.

Also, really pleased how all the guys were aware of the goal difference situation and kept their foot on the pedal to try and get another goal which would have given us a light cushion.

Also - since Iron's has come in there is no doubt we have now become hard to beat. Whether that's just because guys are a bit more focussed or there has been genuine changes made...? Don't know, but we no longer gift goals away or collapse in games and I feel would have been well clear of relegation by now had it not been for sheer bad luck.

We've just not had a break at all! No last minute goals, teams having a big off day against us, flukey goals etc! Just nothing at all so hopefully we just about get the breaks now in the last game and get the job done next week.


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Choke!

We well and truly F*CKED them, mind you! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 13:46:10
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 20 2008, 01:16 PM) [snapback]436989[/snapback]
so is not turning up to Q&A nights to have your say about things youre not pleased with. tongue.gif

Then there are many, many, many, cowards on our forum-not least yourself! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 13:48:44
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 20 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]436991[/snapback]
i think youll struggle to find one person who idolised Mcinally a year ago, Just decent human beings give people the benefit of the doubt and let them get on with their job when theyre top of the league from the first day of the season to the last.

All everyone said was give him his chance in the 1st, which we did, and he failed. its over with. Irons is in charge and we're gonna win the 1st division next year!!! tongue.gif.

When over 75% chose the option 'have total confidence in' rather than less gushing approval in the well touted poll, I describe that as idolatry son. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 13:51:53
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 20 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]436997[/snapback]
i learn from the best in the talking s***e department, thanks btw smile.gif

so Robinson's s*** clearout going straight to our player, Harding kicking the ball of their player and it going out for a throw in instead of to one of their players putting him through on goal , everytime the ball hits off someone it went to our player is all luck that we made for ourselves yesterday? dont be stupid, old man.

we made some of our luck yesterday, winning every 50/50 ball (apart from finlayson s***ting out an 80/20 ball in his favour laugh.gif), making sure clearouts from the dunfermline defence etc fell to us.

But for once we got the break of the ball, the couple induvidual errors the team had weren't punished, infact due to the fact the ball ended up with us when they were made means they cant even be described as errors.

Jim McIntyre disagrees with you, son!
mortonjag 2008-04-20 13:57:18 I can cycle to Firhill! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 13:59:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 20 2008, 12:40 PM) [snapback]436974[/snapback]
no, mortonjag, it's a morgue, not the fish markets.

The fish markets are down Wattle Street from the Sydney Morgue.

Do you need a map ?

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Don't be daft Newt-Holy mackerel were so named because they go off quickly, and a Royal dispensation was issued allowing their sale on a Sunday.

They have a very high fat content relative to other fishy wishies!
mortonjag 2008-04-20 14:00:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 20 2008, 12:41 PM) [snapback]436976[/snapback]
Does anyone apart from Wendy stand in their way ?

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Claymore c*ck and God.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 14:03:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 20 2008, 01:27 PM) [snapback]436996[/snapback]
Eh...... European diseases killed (millions) more native americans than cowboys ever did. tongue.gif

He just likes being provocative-it's an illness I well understand Mr. Edwards.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 14:06:12
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Apr 20 2008, 02:02 PM) [snapback]437017[/snapback]
Morgue? I do believe you all mean a mortuary.

A morgue or mortuary is a building or room (as in a hospital) used for the storage of human remains.

It is normally described as a mortuary in Scotland.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 14:07:35
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 20 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]436906[/snapback]
And you were bound to make a joke like that.

You could change your name to Shackleton!
mortonjag 2008-04-20 14:12:46
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 20 2008, 02:06 PM) [snapback]437021[/snapback]
its pretty obvious that over 1000 of those were to put him on ignore.

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'Fascination' of the fatal kind my child!
mortonjag 2008-04-20 14:16:59
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 20 2008, 02:05 PM) [snapback]437019[/snapback]
that would be true if the many many many cowards on here started every thread linking it to how s*** dougie is, or if not doing that then bringing dougie into and blaming him for something in a thread that has nothing at all to do with him.

But we don't. There are some things people are unhappy about, but not to the extent of talking about it 24/7, we manage to think about other stuff during the day other than " i wonder what Dougie is having for Dinner right now? i bet he f***ing burnt it the old fud "




If you analyse my posts accurately-assuming that is that you are numerate-you will discover that only a very small percentage indeed relates to Mr Rae, though I truly doubt that the old fud has the wit to make his own dinner, let alone burn it! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 14:22:09
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 20 2008, 02:20 PM) [snapback]437026[/snapback]
a small percentage of 30 billion is still a lot of posts. But anyway, you're taking over the thread again, back to Brian Wake.

The thread is about BRIAM WAKE-not that you'd notice that sort of tiny detail.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 14:24:11 Anybody going to watch?
mortonjag 2008-04-20 14:25:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 20 2008, 02:23 PM) [snapback]437028[/snapback]
despite a post earlier saying that we should start Briam Wake and Brian Wake up front together but anyway, Dougie has made me lunch and im away to eat it, so this conversation stops now. tongue.gif

I didn't know you were joining us-I'm sure it will be a pleasure to have someone else sit with me in silence.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 14:34:48
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Apr 20 2008, 02:24 PM) [snapback]437031[/snapback]
I ate jellied eels once but I was stoatin' so I can't remember if I enjoyed them or not.... rolleyes.gif

They probably taste great-I can normally eat anything including tripe, brain , heart, and lung, but just can't get my head round jellied eels. Frogs legs are fine.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 14:36:53
QUOTE(piehutt @ Apr 20 2008, 02:24 PM) [snapback]437029[/snapback]
good point, but I think a lot will be diesel, or perhaps use some of both.

Either way, no petrol/diesel will mean our transport system will become fcked!

You can generate electricity from diesel, but it doesn't work the other way around piehole.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 14:39:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 20 2008, 04:14 AM) [snapback]436829[/snapback]
A CNN journalist who was arrested in New York was not only carrying drugs, but also had a rope tied around his neck and his genitals.

British reporter Richard Quest was arrested wandering around Central Park at 3.40am on Friday with methamphetamine in his jacket pocket, the New York Post reports.

Quest, 46, was approached by police for loitering, before voluntarily admitting "I've got some meth in my pocket", police claim.

A routine search then found the rope, as well as a sex toy tucked into his boot.

A New York judge ordered Quest to undergo six months of counselling.

A well-known face on CNN International, Quest is renowned for his boisterous and quirky style.

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Bot?


QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Apr 20 2008, 02:31 PM) [snapback]437034[/snapback]
Only a certain type Newt....MPs in the main! laugh.gif


Aye-poor old Spike!
mortonjag 2008-04-20 14:41:45
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 20 2008, 02:34 PM) [snapback]437037[/snapback]
I was reading a report today about a Rowntree Trust survey that concludes 'Society has lost its moral compass'. Apparently the old philanthropist (Rowntree) was confident in the 1900's that the scourges of humanity would be overcome some day. He listed the main scourges as : Poverty, war, slavery, crime, the opium trade, intemperance and gambling. Now, the Trust survey identifies present day scourges as: Decline of community, consumerism, individualism and, as you might have guessed - poverty, violence, crime, drugs, drink etc. I'm surprised they didn't mention the slave trade again - perhaps they haven't heard of gangmasters and the 'traffic' of women and children.
Ach well, I suppose I should cheer up. At least Eck is going to cure all Scotland's ills. tongue.gif

No, no Mr Edwards, that is the job of little Nickerless. Eck will be too busy doing more important things.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 14:45:54
QUOTE(buffy @ Apr 20 2008, 02:34 PM) [snapback]437035[/snapback]
hiya dudes and dudettes

Just wanted to say a big thankyou to the two Morton fans who i was chatting to after the game yesterday - lovely folk smile.gif

I was doing the updates for the Pars Unofficial website - DAFC.net and was 'telling it like it was' and yer two fans who spoke to me were fair chuffed i was an on-the-fence-fan. I always am and was well chuffed you got your three goals yesterday, (should have been nine lol) as well as giving it laldy to our poor team.

Thanks again and good luck for the last game plus next season also. A pleaure to report on such an excellent game yesterday. Plus the sun was shining - brawwww.

Buffy x

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According to some of our best, we were 'lucky' Buffy.

I hope the Pars have a decent season next year-Hamilton in the SPL is a joke! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:02:38
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Apr 20 2008, 04:59 PM) [snapback]437118[/snapback]
I disagree. Hamilton will be a team capable of easily staying up in the SPL. Judging by this years standards (St Mirren, Kilmarnock etc etc). Great to see a team make use of its youth system instead of splashing the cash. So on that basis I wish them the best of luck and hopefully they relegate St Mirren.

They have got there on merit, but they don't have the fan base to sustain SPL status-FFS Motherwell play only a mile or so away.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:06:22
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 20 2008, 05:10 PM) [snapback]437129[/snapback]
Welcome back missed your footballing wisdom .


We would only have been clear of relegation if we had gotten a capable manager in earlier .

DI is like a conductor of the orchestra his constant prompting kept every player going to the end

Luck !!!! get a grip , it has been sheer hardwork done in training and to their credit the players taking onboard the new regime .

We have had 2 lucky breaks this season JM walking away despite DDFR and his band of believers and Gretna's financial plight which we picked the bones from the corpse .

....despite Rae bleating on about 'not wanting Gretna to disappear'. The man talks a power of sh*te.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:10:10 I say F*CK Hamilton-a shower of greetin' faces spoilsports who couldn't take a decent beating, and only won because of their bully boy tactics, plastic playpen, and Cheat Thomson. They will get humped in the SPL regularly to home crowds of a few thousand. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:12:38
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Apr 20 2008, 06:07 PM) [snapback]437168[/snapback]
What's that got to do with it? As long as the players perform on the pitch then they will sustain their SPL status... It doesn't matter if there's 50 people watching or 50,000 people watching.

They do not have the fan base to sustain SPL status. If you can't understand that-too f*ckin' bad! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:14:21
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Apr 20 2008, 06:01 PM) [snapback]437164[/snapback]
The pitch will NOT be a factor in the game next Saturday.

Why-are we playing it SCUBA style under the Clyde? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:19:03 Birch the pink botties.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:23:56 A moral victory to the First Division. In some ways I'm almost glad, as it would have been unbearable to hear the press bleatings about this year's Scottish Cup having become a 'Non event'.

Anyhow Queens can still gub them in the final.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:27:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 20 2008, 06:13 PM) [snapback]437172[/snapback]
but, will yer bike be safe when you get there ?
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'Cycle' was a loose term for 'Moby' Newt. I might even get to drive right into the ground! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:28:51
QUOTE(big B @ Apr 20 2008, 06:16 PM) [snapback]437176[/snapback]
Nah the Clyde will be under us tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:32:21
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Apr 20 2008, 06:17 PM) [snapback]437177[/snapback]
What has the fanbase got to do with them sustaining SPL status? Doesnt sustaining SPL status require not being relegated? I think it does. As the chairman of the Accies said their finances are capable of security in the SPL. They are producing their own team so no cash is involved in buying foreign players.

To me that alone is sustaining SPL status.

Their Chairman is stating the financial position at present. Do you imagine their costs will be the same next year, when they will additionally have no income from playpen rental?

Yet again Mortonjag states the obvious and is called in question.

Yet again, Mortonjag will be proved correct! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:36:56 Born just after noon today by Caesarian Section at Glasgow Royal Maternity.

Will probably end up a Hun like its father, but Grand-dad will do his best! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:38:52
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 20 2008, 06:35 PM) [snapback]437186[/snapback]
...but of course, only a small percentage of your posts are to do with Rae, and none of them in threads that have nothing to do with him. tongue.gif

I was making a perfectly valid comment in response to Chrissiboi's equally valid comment. Rae is a fud.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:40:33
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 20 2008, 06:35 PM) [snapback]437185[/snapback]
Like your Weatherson being a striker argument wink.gif

SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A STRIKER
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:43:06
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Apr 20 2008, 06:37 PM) [snapback]437188[/snapback]
Ach away and rattle yer gums elsewhere. Think about it. SPL = higher admission prices. SPL teams have much more supporters = more money raised through admissions. They are spending very little on their team as I have mentioned they will be using their homegrown talent. I will not be suprised if a few of their youngsters (Mcarthy and Mcarthur) will be snapped up for a reasonable amount.

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They may do reasonably well in the short term and MAY just escape immediate relegation. The indisputable FACT is that Hamilton cannot sustain a viable SPL football club. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:46:24
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Apr 20 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]437191[/snapback]
Congratulations! I will ask the usual girly things, what weight, have they picked a name and has she got any hair? tongue.gif unsure.gif

Almost four weeks early, and less than five pounds. I'm heading in to see her shortly. To date she is anonymous! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:49:11
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Apr 20 2008, 06:46 PM) [snapback]437198[/snapback]
When did you become Mystic Meg? No1 can be certain of any clubs future until it actually happens. Unpredictable things happen all the time. We saw that when clyde nicked 2 goals from us within 2 mins. I bet no1 predicted that at all. They will not be relegated next season. They were already SPL quality as they have been consistent throughout the whole season only losing 3 goals at home. Teams like the skunks, killie, hearts, ICT etc will have a hard time breaking that down as they are, as it is, PISH.

Mystic Meg is a charlatan. I AM MORTONJAG.

I will be proven correct as always! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:50:37
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 20 2008, 06:47 PM) [snapback]437199[/snapback]
Make sure you keep Fing away...he may get jealous!

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Fing is very fond of children-though they have to be minced quite small.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:53:14
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Apr 20 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]437202[/snapback]
You're not STILL going on about that, are you?

OF COURSE I AM.

I'm sending another letter to the SFA tomorrow, as I've not received any reply telling me what the result of the internal investigation was.

Do you have a problem with that?
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:55:12
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Apr 20 2008, 06:53 PM) [snapback]437210[/snapback]
It is of no relevance to this thread though, so give it a break.

By far the best performance of the season.


WHY?

Because Rae f*cked up! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:56:40
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Apr 20 2008, 06:54 PM) [snapback]437214[/snapback]
Nah, you're free do to what you want. Just not sure why you can't let it rest. That one incident alone won't affect how our season ends.

That is very much a matter of opinion. We SHOULD have an extra point right now.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:58:15
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Apr 20 2008, 06:51 PM) [snapback]437205[/snapback]
Cant see it happening sorry smile.gif.

No need to apologise for being wrong!
mortonjag 2008-04-20 19:00:27
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 20 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]437221[/snapback]
And Accies SHOULD have two less points right now.

..so Craig Pishley B*stard bent lawyer Thomson has cheated them to the Championship! dry.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 19:03:32
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 20 2008, 07:00 PM) [snapback]437225[/snapback]
Cue predictable bleating...............

BEATING


Damian's Law NOW!
mortonjag 2008-04-20 19:09:01
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Apr 20 2008, 07:02 PM) [snapback]437229[/snapback]
Maybe Rae f*cked up.
But still - it was NOT the best performance of the season - see post #11. dry.gif

That was your opinion (and mine).

Yesterday's was for me the MOST CONVINCING result of the season and followed fine efforts at Palmerston, McDiarmid Park, and against Thistle. Irons has got belief back into a squad which was squashed by the ineffectual JM and his Shooglemeister.

My greatest fear is that we'll escape relegation (which I'm convinced will happen), and Rae will revert to his old habits.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 19:11:08
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 20 2008, 07:04 PM) [snapback]437232[/snapback]
Mark Farrell , who else at the club puts in a flawless performance week after week.

I don't think I've seen a negative comment about Mark 's efforts .

When you think of all the posponements up and down the country due to the weather . Only one game was in doubt and that was because the ref was an 4rse .

When I looked at the playing surface yesterday it could have easily been mistaken for the start of the season .

I know I can be hard to please and moan alot more than others but I'd also like to think when someone recieves the deserved plaudits I acknowledge it .

Thanks Mark

I couldn't help admiring his style yesterday at half time-mobile to his left ear as he deftly replaced divots-fork in one hand!
mortonjag 2008-04-20 20:16:00
QUOTE(SramTon @ Apr 20 2008, 08:03 PM) [snapback]437271[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-04-21 07:45:10 Many thanks for all the kind wishes and witty comments. I still don't have a name for the wee one.

It's kinda complicated you see-her Mum was a Kafflik who converted to Judaism but no longer goes to the sinny bog, and her Dad thinks he's a Proddy, but has never been in church except when they were married in a Kafflik Church in Barcelona, and worse, he supports the Huns.

I know-it's very sad and very complex. Fortunately their first child is simply Alexander, and he's truly great-a ginger headed wee monster who starts school this summer. Mind you, when he was born the Rangers manager was Alexander McLeish.

I just have this horrible feeling that my wee grand-daughter might be called Wally! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 07:47:53
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 20 2008, 07:23 PM) [snapback]437252[/snapback]
No, he's Capitanus or something like that, one of Paul many alter-egos.

You're telling me Caput up anus is an impostor-I knew it! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 07:49:49
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 20 2008, 08:27 PM) [snapback]437308[/snapback]
Naw, spammers.

I'd rather be a spammer than a snail.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 07:53:08
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 20 2008, 11:31 PM) [snapback]437491[/snapback]
Been there myself - it's a bit embarassing being helpded into the hospital with your tarzan outfit on!?

It's even worse in a schoolgirl's uniform.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 07:56:52
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 20 2008, 09:11 PM) [snapback]437392[/snapback]
Don't haud yer breath.

Stab someone and the Scottish executive, Scottish government, SNP s***eheids in embra think tou should not go to jail unless there's more than two stitches needed for the wound. sad.gif


.....because Bawheid and Nickerless understand all about medicine and fingz.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 07:58:24
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 21 2008, 06:52 AM) [snapback]437527[/snapback]
These bondage jokes are getting a bit ropey!

Just like stringin' folk along.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 07:59:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 21 2008, 06:53 AM) [snapback]437528[/snapback]
would that be dark, milk or white ?

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uhuh
mortonjag 2008-04-21 08:00:38
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 21 2008, 06:53 AM) [snapback]437529[/snapback]
good post!

superb pillar
mortonjag 2008-04-21 08:06:02
QUOTE(leyTON @ Apr 20 2008, 09:59 PM) [snapback]437438[/snapback]
violence is most definetely not the answer which is what ive been saying in the previous death penalty arguments

Don't be a silly wee softy-it will rapidly become the answer the minute one of your loved ones is indiscriminately exterminated for the price of a bag.

Flog the little c*nts within an inch of their lives. Second offenders-MINCER, canned, and distributed to the world's starving.

CORNED THIEF dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 08:11:21 I believe Kev is still asking his team mates what happened-but who gives a f***? laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 08:12:02
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Apr 20 2008, 11:10 PM) [snapback]437487[/snapback]
Partick are not playing very well. They've only scored 4 goals in their last nine league games, albeit they've only conceded 5. After Saturday thats four on the biounce they've lost and their last victory was 1-0 against Stirling at Firhill. Dunfermline beat them at Firhill! Enough said?

We can win this but even if we don't, we will win the play offs!

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mortonjag 2008-04-21 08:14:20
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 20 2008, 10:49 PM) [snapback]437461[/snapback]
St Mirren. At least one of us will be nice tongue.gif

...because of the black and white stripes


OH and the SMELL!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 08:37:53
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Apr 21 2008, 02:08 AM) [snapback]437522[/snapback]
Their pitch has daiseys on it laugh.gif

better than f*ckin pansies! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 08:42:36
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Apr 20 2008, 07:44 PM) [snapback]437262[/snapback]
And a big well done to DDF for giving him the resources? wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-21 08:46:52
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 21 2008, 08:09 AM) [snapback]437547[/snapback]
Wrong.

The away stand behind the goal hold 2007. Thistle have said on numerous occasions this season that the Main Stand will not be used, I don't even think it was used against Rangers so I doubt they will open it for us. They have also said in the past that no away fans will be allowed into the JH stand after problems earlier in the season but I think that might change this Saturday.

I reckon we will take over 2500 on Saturday.

Jim I'm praying you're correct, but I can't see it I'm afraid. All the old faithful away supporters will be there, and the fact it's only Glasgow may attract a few hundred more, but it is after all about a game in which even three points guarantee nothing. The main thing is that we can totally outshout the opposition and I'm certain we'll do that easily-AND win!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 08:51:37
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Apr 21 2008, 08:23 AM) [snapback]437554[/snapback]
No they'll just have to make do with the extra £1m or so they get from just being in the SPL. I tend to share your view though, that, in the long term you need a support base to sustain an SPL side no matter how good other aspects of your club are.

Still, I think they have as good a chance as any recently promoted club of getting a couple of season in the SPL if they can hang onto their better players.

...which I suspect is all the other poster really means. I'll be very surprised if they don't struggle next season-they are good-not great, and I also fear that they believe 'those lads deserve the chance to take them forward'! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 08:52:57
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Apr 21 2008, 08:48 AM) [snapback]437570[/snapback]
My initial thoughts on our support next week was that we'll take just about our average home support.

Not the quiet crowd! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 08:55:36
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 21 2008, 08:24 AM) [snapback]437555[/snapback]
You deserve a cuff round the ear for that.

and your point is-collar?
mortonjag 2008-04-21 09:01:46 Alex Salmond claimed his party can force Westminster "to dance to a Scottish jig" as he set a target of winning 14 more Commons seats and holding the balance of power.

Such a result would give the party 20 seats in the Commons out of the Scottish total of 59. The SNP leader, speaking yesterday on the final day of the party's conference in Edinburgh, believes a close Commons result between Labour and the Conservatives would give smaller parties the power to decide which forms the government, and suggested the SNP could be the power- broker instead of the LibDems.

The party leadership is ruling out formal coalition with either of those UK parties, but Mr Salmond hopes a hung parliament would give him leverage to gain concessions for Scotland. He said this would be one solution to recent "unreasonable behaviour" from the Labour government at Westminster, such as withholding council tax benefit and trying to block local taxation reform.
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"I am charging the party to build a Scottish block of at least 20 MPs in the Westminster Parliament, ready, willing and able to defend our parliament and our people," the First Minister said.

"If we achieve that then all the Westminster noes' will suddenly become yesses'. We can make Westminster dance to a Scottish jig.




Eleven months on cloud nine and still using his mooth for an anus.

Bawheid son-dae ye no ken a' the paranoid ones are already on your side?


Your supposed to be winning over the 'undecideds', like me.


Truly you are an embarrassment to your party. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 09:07:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 21 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]437579[/snapback]
Flog the little c*nts within an inch of their lives.
Is that not a tad difficult to judge, doctor ?

It probably takes a lot of practice.

huh.gif

Ok Newt I was a bit enthusiastic-just flog them till they're hauf deid.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 09:09:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 21 2008, 09:06 AM) [snapback]437581[/snapback]
"I am charging the party to build a Scottish block of at least 20 MPs in the Westminster Parliament, ready, willing and able to defend our parliament and our people."

will they have heavy weapons or just side arms ?

blink.gif

Not heavy weapons I'd guess-they're all bloody 'wummin' including Jessie in Chief!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 09:10:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 21 2008, 09:07 AM) [snapback]437582[/snapback]
champion stake

Chompy on sausage.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 09:11:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 21 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]437577[/snapback]
are you speaking from personal experience ?

huh.gif

Yes!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 09:14:26
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 21 2008, 08:32 AM) [snapback]437558[/snapback]
Prior to the Partick Thistle v Morton match

there will be FREE Bacon, Egg or Slice Rolls available to all travelers with the Gourock Morton Supporters' this weekend between 11am and 12pm.
There will also be the usual FREE pies and soup available from 12.30pm until the bus leaves at 1.30pm.


And when their goalie's in front of us we shall anaesthetise him with orchestrated farting.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 09:15:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 21 2008, 09:13 AM) [snapback]437588[/snapback]
which hauf ?

Either left or right-not fussy.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 09:16:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 21 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]437590[/snapback]
ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

French maid as well ducky ?

blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif

Swedish au pair actually.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 09:21:51
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 20 2008, 11:53 PM) [snapback]437496[/snapback]
No, I was thinking more of his role in 'Falling Down', and in particular the scene where he shoots up the burger joint. But I think you knew that anyway.

The rectum is an organ-not a joint.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 09:45:27
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 21 2008, 09:25 AM) [snapback]437594[/snapback]
Another day another attack on the SNP.

Both the SNP and Salmond are riding high in the opinion polls.

A predicted 20+ seats for the Westminster elections laugh.gif

Labour in crisis through out the UK. Brown the lowest poll ratings since Chamberlain (I think Hitler is more popular come to think of it tongue.gif )
Wendy is still making a fool of herself and her party.
The Lib-Dems seem to be in the doldrums since Clegg took over and haven't progressed.
And theTories non existent in Scotland.

Sounds like Salmond is an embarrassment doesn't it ??? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Labour fooled the Scottish public for long and weary-now that baw faced galoot is doing the same, but the chickens will come home to roost.

To somebody like myself who supports the concept of self government, he is indeed a huge embarrassment Spurtle.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 09:47:01
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 21 2008, 09:37 AM) [snapback]437597[/snapback]
so are you

The word you were looking for was oracle.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 09:48:02
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 21 2008, 09:36 AM) [snapback]437595[/snapback]
Yes but if they got it these computer things would be ever so expensive.

...for proper people.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 10:18:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 21 2008, 10:08 AM) [snapback]437607[/snapback]
Everyone is entitled to their opinion MJ. I'm just glad you're views on the SNP and Mr Salmond are not echoed by the electorate.

He is head and shoulders above anyone in politics right now. After the next Westminster elections the political map of the UK will change dramatically.

The SNP are riding high just now, let's hope they continue to do so. There is real optimism in the air for nationalists.

The end is nigh for the UK. The sooner the break up the better !



That's exactly the type of comment that I abhor-just like his 'jiggin' one-pathetic, paranoid, and premature.

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 21 2008, 10:08 AM) [snapback]437609[/snapback]
I dunno Jag, I reckon wee eck is onto something here. It is clear that there is a big support for the SNP in Scotland now and their time in power so far has been used to show up how controlling Westminster appears to be over certain issues.

Can argue til the coos come hame over it but at the end of the day the SNP and seizing on their current popularity so as to get more SNP into Westminster.

And I wont be dancing any jigs...however if someone wants a piper to play said jigs I am willing to listen to offers wink.gif

All that's happened young Puggs is that the mindless thickos who used to vote Labour are now voting SNP. Instead of trying to win over thinking Scots Bawheid's needle's got stuck in the groove. It's a promise everything government full of inexperienced clowns like Nickerless. The chickens will come home to roost!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 10:20:50
QUOTE(Kenni @ Apr 21 2008, 10:08 AM) [snapback]437608[/snapback]
135 mins of football = 5 goals

strikers = Brian Wake and Ian Russell
thank you rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

Spoonsy and Graham! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 10:22:38
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Apr 21 2008, 10:08 AM) [snapback]437610[/snapback]
A good performance from Wake and hopefully that gives him the confidence to score a few next week. He never hid and was still running his socks off until the final whistle. Credit to Russell as well for equal effort - if only he could stay onside...

Re Wake's shot that hit the bar - I thought it might have been over the line when it came down off the bar. Hopefully get some still shots from the official site video. I suppose from the lack of comment on here no else thought it might have gone over!

It was an extremely powerful shot, and could well have gone just over.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 10:24:09 sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 10:25:10
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 21 2008, 10:20 AM) [snapback]437614[/snapback]
Orafice

Orator
mortonjag 2008-04-21 10:53:59
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 21 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]437620[/snapback]
They may be inexperienced but are still better than the headless labourite chickens conducted by the head hen Wendy! tongue.gif

Of course they are, so why spoil it all by lowering themselves?

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 21 2008, 10:30 AM) [snapback]437622[/snapback]
Perhaps someone like you would abhor comments like that, as you seem to be more unionist than nationalist in outlook. rolleyes.gif



I'm not a 'Unionist', Thistle Thumbs.

Folk who see that not all is healthy with Eck's cosy wee band of nappy rashers do not automatically become unionists-except in your eyes! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 11:06:14
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 21 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]437624[/snapback]
I heard he had it to smash round your head wink.gif

It's FAR too wee!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 11:17:05
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 21 2008, 11:13 AM) [snapback]437631[/snapback]
orange

b*stard
mortonjag 2008-04-21 11:36:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 21 2008, 11:31 AM) [snapback]437633[/snapback]
Nothing like that in the movie I saw, you must have seen the porno version.

Nope just Gray's Anatomy.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:01:16
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 21 2008, 12:04 PM) [snapback]437638[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif Must be talking about someone else mate laugh.gif

I was merely associating the two words Mr Weegie!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:07:32
QUOTE(big B @ Apr 21 2008, 01:10 PM) [snapback]437659[/snapback]
Not that I am saying we will take as big a cowd but this is a bigger game than the Motherwell game so hopefully we take at least 2500 or above for another big game in Morton's history.

You know that and I know that, but the glory seekers don't have any interest in relegation dog fights BB.

I'll be astonished and delighted if we take 1500.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:10:39
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Apr 21 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]437648[/snapback]
They have always done that. They did it when we played them a month or so ago.

Cos they're jumped up brat spoilsport cheats who are coming straight back down and F*CK THEM.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:15:04 It's not going to happen-Clyde will falter against the Binos-they may scrape a win by the odd goal, but I fully expect us to win three or four nil. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:23:54 McGregor began his career with Kilmarnock, but failed to make the grade with them.

McGregor signed for Clyde in the summer 2005, and scored on his debut in the Scottish Challenge Cup against Brechin City. McGregor has gone from strength to strength since joining Clyde, and was awarded the Man of the Match award during Clyde's 5-2 extra time defeat to Rangers in the Scottish League Cup. He missed virtually the whole of the first half of 2006 with a series of injuries, including strained ankle ligaments and a fractured cheekbone.

McGregor was appointed Clyde captain in January 2007, due to the departure of Paul McHale. However, due to injury, McGregor was sidelined for the rest of the season, allowing Michael McGowan to captain the side. McGowan was officially appointed as team captain in August 2007, whereas McGregor was given the role of club captain.[1]

McGregor was selected in the SPFA First Division Team of 2006-07. In August 2007, Carlisle United were reported to have table an offer of £100,000 for McGregor. However, this offer fell through when Carlisle sacked their manager.[2]

His younger brother Calum also plays for Clyde.[3]
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:26:15
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 21 2008, 03:24 PM) [snapback]437699[/snapback]
f*** me, i remember like a week ago when you were on 13,000 posts mellow.gif

unsure.gif

How many am I on now?
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:35:29
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 21 2008, 03:29 PM) [snapback]437701[/snapback]
Yup
Now the big question...do I shave the beard off and gel my hair forward over my awful hairline and chance it?
....nah! laugh.gif

Just learn to pay your way like the adults do.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:38:50
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 21 2008, 01:57 PM) [snapback]437672[/snapback]
I know, I kept doing the same. Annoying isn't it?

I kept looking over at that white circle-I had forgotten my watch and my brother was getting pissed off when I kept saying 'How long's gone now'.

It must have been an absolute nightmare for lonely souls of a nervous disposition who can't afford a timepiece. Rae has much to answer for. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:40:41
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 21 2008, 03:39 PM) [snapback]437705[/snapback]
Not until I have to wink.gif

In your profile you claim to be 21 years old. I take it you've been fibbing again.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:43:00
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 21 2008, 03:39 PM) [snapback]437706[/snapback]
I'm guessing so...can only be a good thing.

Maybe Albertz's plane will be cancelled because of the fuel strike! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:44:18
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 21 2008, 03:42 PM) [snapback]437708[/snapback]
18,077 laugh.gif

No wonder that monkey keeps complaining about sore fingers.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:48:49
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 21 2008, 03:44 PM) [snapback]437711[/snapback]
Oh aye, Crawford is the stadium guy anyway...so blame him wink.gif

Well he's just a chip off the old block I'd imagine-if he can't afford new turnstyles, what hope have we of getting an old clock fixed. Next thing the toilets will be flooded out with raw sewage, Cappie will die of typhoid, and Arthur will fracture a hip or two. The Raes have much to answer for.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:50:15
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 21 2008, 03:43 PM) [snapback]437710[/snapback]
Erm.....no?

In yours you claim to be a wee boy tongue.gif

No I don't-well not unless that monkey's been messing about again.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:53:02
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 21 2008, 03:45 PM) [snapback]437713[/snapback]
If your not part of the solution your part of the problem rolleyes.gif

Such a ludicrous assertion could only come from you Spurtle, and BTW it should be you're-I don't want Newt to get upset again.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:54:37
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 21 2008, 03:51 PM) [snapback]437716[/snapback]
we can only hope smile.gif

What has that poor poosy done to offend you?
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:55:35 Don't be silly-the monkey knows better than to cheat on Mortonjag and Fing.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:57:05
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 21 2008, 03:52 PM) [snapback]437717[/snapback]
Aye a week is a long time in football laugh.gif

...when the clock's f*cked.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:58:41
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Apr 21 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]437725[/snapback]
I definately had an effect on saturday's game tongue.gif , they can keep the clock

True, but I still want to know why he had to pawn it.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 16:04:04
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 21 2008, 04:01 PM) [snapback]437731[/snapback]
...he knows what he did!

I don't-in fact I don't believe Cappie would harm a fly.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 16:20:02
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]437736[/snapback]
Quality, I'm there.

Master Deegan-did your new avatar borrow the wallies from Shoogly just for the fotie shoot?
mortonjag 2008-04-21 16:21:40
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 21 2008, 04:18 PM) [snapback]437737[/snapback]
sothere is no truth in the rumour that there was repeated sightings of an MJ shaped person up a ladder on friday night stealing the clock just so he could start this thread?

Don't be ridiculous-Mortonjag plays bridge on Friday nights.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 16:23:53
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 21 2008, 04:22 PM) [snapback]437742[/snapback]
wish he would play on bridges on a friday night, preferably ones with rush hour traffic. tongue.gif

laugh.gif

Mortonjag is immortal.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 16:25:09
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 04:22 PM) [snapback]437741[/snapback]
laugh.gif

FFS get those wallies oot-they make him look glaicet!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 16:27:18
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 21 2008, 04:21 PM) [snapback]437739[/snapback]
MJ you arent the top poster today mellow.gif

Deego is beating you ohmy.gif you're losing your touch, and you know how much i enjoyed your touch.

I didn't realise it was a competition PT-what's the prize?
mortonjag 2008-04-21 16:31:29
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Apr 21 2008, 04:28 PM) [snapback]437748[/snapback]
Far too clever a game for you!

You misunderstand numbers man-I'm not talking about cards-the boys and I just call it 'bridge', though I imagine 'tunnel' would be more accurate.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 16:33:15
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 04:30 PM) [snapback]437750[/snapback]
I'd rather be a snail than a spammer.

Shoot yershell
mortonjag 2008-04-21 16:35:36
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 04:34 PM) [snapback]437754[/snapback]
Fannyball.

unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 16:37:44
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 04:35 PM) [snapback]437756[/snapback]
The loser gets flashed by WillowMan.

I'll stop trying then!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 16:38:59
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 04:37 PM) [snapback]437760[/snapback]
Who are you talking about?

Spiced Ham.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 17:44:11
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 21 2008, 04:58 PM) [snapback]437785[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif

Don't be silly-I've seen worse than a flash of Willow.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 17:45:46
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 21 2008, 05:24 PM) [snapback]437798[/snapback]
NICKEL.

prickle
mortonjag 2008-04-21 17:47:23
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 21 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]437779[/snapback]
smile.gif

mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 17:50:14
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 21 2008, 04:45 PM) [snapback]437773[/snapback]
i know, i just wanted to annoy MJ.

but to be fair, Dougie obviously doesn't have a clue how to run a youth system, and neither did JM (strange considering he managed celtic youths).

He's obviously listened to Irons and Collins on this and since people have said all they want is people to help him with the footballing side of things, he deserves credit for letting them do what they want.

Shoogly is a very good listener who never hears a bloody word. He has no interest whatsoever in a youth set up, but not to worry-his heart's in the right place! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 17:52:23
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 21 2008, 04:49 PM) [snapback]437777[/snapback]
got a little freaked out with what you meant there. was scared what he was doing with his other hand while on this board , thought only MJ did that.

You are quite disgusting.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 17:57:07
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Apr 21 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]437728[/snapback]
Is it naw true that a new digital one is going to be installed for next session but like your dvd player no one will no how to set it and it will just flash at midnight for the rest of time

It's naw true Pedro. Shoogly can only do the big hand, wee hand stuff-his only experience of the digital age was his recent rectal examination.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 17:58:34
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 05:55 PM) [snapback]437816[/snapback]
MORRISSEY.

DANCERY
mortonjag 2008-04-21 17:59:18
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Apr 21 2008, 05:31 PM) [snapback]437801[/snapback]
Aye, was guid Ghosty!

Hopefully the same result on Saturday!!

biggrin.gif

And the same for us (5-1, roon ye McLeish!) against Everton, which would move us into the UEFA spot and confirm your Champions League spot!

Did you speak with wallyman?
mortonjag 2008-04-21 17:59:57
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]437823[/snapback]
Boz.

Cox
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:01:39
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 05:57 PM) [snapback]437819[/snapback]
Deary me, mortonjag.

I wish you'd remove that grinning clown from your avatar and replace it with a proper monkey.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:02:55
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Apr 21 2008, 06:00 PM) [snapback]437828[/snapback]
Most scoreboards do that I think. The one at Hampden does anyway.

We could only get a shiny new one if Peter leaves, seeing as his free kicks hit that rather than the net.

Shiny new ones cost MUNNY. The old one will be back oot the pawn for August.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:04:08
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:02 PM) [snapback]437833[/snapback]
How DARE you insult my Kevin! mad.gif

He's not YOUR Kevin, and he's stolen Shoogly's wallies.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:05:19
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Apr 21 2008, 06:01 PM) [snapback]437831[/snapback]
Should we try and sign him???

Or will an SPL club try and get him???

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...een/7358687.stm

Why not-it's good fun while it lasts!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:06:18
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 21 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]437821[/snapback]
welcome to the 21st century old timer.

Thank you-but you are still quite disgusting.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:07:06
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 21 2008, 06:00 PM) [snapback]437825[/snapback]
you know criticism of someone isn't valid unless you acknowledge when they do something well.

Bollocks.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:08:22
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:06 PM) [snapback]437838[/snapback]
He's MY hero therefore he is MY Kevin.

SUPER KEV

THAT'S MY COLOUR
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:09:02
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:07 PM) [snapback]437844[/snapback]
"It is not yet clear whether the 34-year-old will retire and move in to coaching."

Player-coach?

Team bus
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:09:57
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:09 PM) [snapback]437847[/snapback]
I thought you were into the disgusting type?

I am-quite disgusting types are failures.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:10:46
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:09 PM) [snapback]437849[/snapback]
Oh, wrong thread.

Pan bread
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:11:58
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:01 PM) [snapback]437829[/snapback]
Moz.

Mins
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:12:51 Handel-The Messiah
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:16:56
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Apr 21 2008, 06:12 PM) [snapback]437855[/snapback]



Crawford Allan

Date of Birth: 16 May 1967

Height: 1.68m / 5ft 6in

Weight: 9st 12 lb/ 62kg

Profession: Bank Official

First ever match: Musselburgh U/14 v Edina Hibs U/14 in August 1991

First international match: England v Israel (U/17 Ballymena International tournament 2002)

Career highlights Referee Scottish U/21 Cup Final 1995, Referee Scottish Junior Cup Final 2001, being promoted to Grade 1 in Season 2002/ first foreign UEFA match as 4th official in 2004 (Portugal v. Russia u-21 qualifying match) Ukraine v. albania (2005 4th Official U/21 qualifying match)

What does being a football referee mean to you? Being professional in my attitude and enjoying taking part in a game I really enjoy.

Why did you become a referee? I was slightly mad! - and one of my work colleagues (who is now a Referee Observer ) was a referee and talked me into it!!

Would you have wished to become a full-time referee? Yes - I have been lucky enough to go abroad on a couple of occasions for tournaments / matches and "live the life of a referee" for a few days and it was absolutely superb.

Any pet hates in football? Players trying to deceive the referee and opponents (cheating, if I am being absolutely honest) - some are really good at it and make it so difficult to spot, with the result that on occasion we sometimes get it wrong and don't award fouls when maybe they should have been.

What Law of the Game would you change? Number of substitutes in a friendly match. I really can't see the point in making people pay good money to watch what can become little more than a training event for the players when so many players change during the game. If clubs want a training match then arrange it as such and run it on the training fields.

The most difficult Law to apply? Dissent. Should be so easy if the letter of the Law was applied - however referees try to take common sense into account and allow a certain amount of frustration amongst players - but where is the line and when do players cross it? Very difficult to manage 100% properly.

Your best memory in football? Going to watch Scotland in 1998 World Cup in France - fantastic experience. One I hope to repeat at some point in the future.

Other sports or hobbies? Running (3 marathons so far inc. Londond 2006 / 3 half marathons and quite a few 10 k's)
Golf (poor 14 handicap although some of the other referees definitely question that when I take the money!)
The occasional game of badminton

Your main strength? My commitment to learning and developing

And main weaknesses? Malt whisky

What's in your car CD player? Red Hot Chilli Peppers/Stadium Arcadium, Shania Twain / Greatest Hits - what a babe! Snow Patrol / Eyes Open

Beer or wine? Both in moderation - just not at the same time ...... learning from experience !

Favourite film? Cat Ballou - really fuuny and very enjoyable / easy watching.

Tastiest food? Peppered steak

Favourite holiday destination? Lake Garda

Luck or judgement? Luck

Dress up or dress down? Both, I am equally comfortable in a pair of jeans as I am in a dinner suit / kilt for the special occasion.

Whom would you most like to meet? Who ever put these questions together!!

Ambitions? To continue to enjoy life, be the best I can and reach as high a level as I can in everything I do.

Any advice for young referees? The world is out there if you have the commitment, skill and a little bit of luck. Enjoy it!!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:17:55
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:11 PM) [snapback]437853[/snapback]
Elderly Ned.

Drop dead
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:18:57
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:13 PM) [snapback]437857[/snapback]
SUITS ME BETTER

PUFE
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:19:37
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]437866[/snapback]
NAW!

AW!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:20:59
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:19 PM) [snapback]437868[/snapback]
wub.gif

Will you please remove those wallies from your avatar and return them to Shoogly-he's f*ckin' starvin' to death.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:23:01
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Apr 21 2008, 06:14 PM) [snapback]437859[/snapback]
I think the Hamilton Accies chairman's comment about sustaining a strong, financially stable club based on their youth products in the future should have served as a wake-up call to Morton. I have no doubt Irons and Collins would have been keen on this before anyway, but maybe Mr Rae seeing one of his peers talking about his success has given him a bit more urgency! Our youth set-up has been so stop-start over the last few years, McGregor is still the only recent YTS product playing is he not? He broke through nearing ten years ago during a different time for the club. Did Jim McAllister sign youth forms at first? Alan Trouten was a good prospect and he's doing well at Queens Park now, maybe we could get him back?

Hamilton's success is built on bringing youth players in to compliment the older guys and surely nobody can deny it worked? People might want to talk about their home form and the synthetic turf, but their away home has been magnificent as well. They were promoted to Division One three years before us and over those three seasons they have progressed each year, as have a number of their young players. McCarthy is something else. I just hope that come season 2011/2012, we'll have managed to equal their success, or even get there a year sooner. With three or four home grown players in the team by then! McAllister could well be gone at that point.

Rae is quite simply not interested in an active youth policy, but apparently his heart's in the right place.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:23:59
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:21 PM) [snapback]437873[/snapback]
Kev refuses to do so.

You are happy to see our Chairman die of starvation.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:24:49
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:20 PM) [snapback]437870[/snapback]
JACKIE MCNAMARA.

Discuss.

Ex Cellic player
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:28:24 What a load of codswallop-the Mighty Ton can play football on any surface-this ain't JM's ballet dancers any more-Thistle are well f*cked!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:29:45
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:26 PM) [snapback]437886[/snapback]
Give him something that doesn't need to be chewed.

laugh.gif

There is no end to your rudeness young man.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:31:39 Greig-Peer Gynt
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:37:55
QUOTE(leyTON @ Apr 21 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]437887[/snapback]
but what is the message
do you believe this shows violence is not the answer
you are saying to people violence isnt the solution to whatever problems the assaulter here had(financial, drugs etc) but while you yourselve advocate the use of violence to solve a problem.
demonsiing youths again also, when discussing damians law it was mostly young people in your sights, not that knife crime isnt a problem among the youth, but with adults aswell
if a 60 odd year old had assualted someone would u advocate the birch?

The message is-

Here is a short video showing what will happen to you if you carry a knife-the choice is entirely


YOURS



It's a wee bit like warning folk not to stick their hands in fires or walk over cliffs-quite simple, and perfectly civilised. Do you think folk would still take a chance on it-remember it's THEIR choice. Would they be vicious enough to force society to meet violence with violence?
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:41:25
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:17 PM) [snapback]437862[/snapback]
NORMAN.

HORMONE
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:44:20
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:43 PM) [snapback]437912[/snapback]
Uniformed whores.

May Hughes Dancers
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:46:41
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:32 PM) [snapback]437898[/snapback]
I'm only trying to impress you. wub.gif

You will impress me when you remove Shoogly's dentures from your avatar-I'm fed up with this 'are yoosh up for it shtuff.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:48:24
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:47 PM) [snapback]437918[/snapback]
SUPER KEV shall never be replaced.

SHOOPER KEV HASH SHTOLEN SHOOGLY'S WALLYSH
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:50:05 I really liked the going away tribute to Shoogly on Saturday.

A PENIS.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:51:03
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]437923[/snapback]
He's a good lad!

He's a blinkered greyhound who should not be wearing dentures.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:53:09
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Apr 21 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]437905[/snapback]
Hamilton already have one of the best youth set-ups in Scotland and have had for a while. And I think McAlister could be out of here this summer if we get relegated.

mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:54:52
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:52 PM) [snapback]437929[/snapback]
Super Kev is the God of all Gods.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Mortonjag is his mentor.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:56:58
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:55 PM) [snapback]437936[/snapback]
Following Kev's orders.

Kev has a habit of doing forty five things wrong before he finds the right button!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:58:04
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Apr 21 2008, 06:56 PM) [snapback]437941[/snapback]
I have it on good authority that Dougie was seen coming out of Victoria Wine with a bottle of Malt Whiskey this afternoon...I'll do my bit and see if I get tickets to the next Chilli Peppers' gig.

Try posting some news.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:58:55
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:56 PM) [snapback]437940[/snapback]
He said "give me the ball"

I said 'Not at all'
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:59:38 Why change a winning formation?
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:01:24
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:55 PM) [snapback]437938[/snapback]
No, Brian Wake is.

Super Khali
Realistic
Not a peterstocious
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:03:42
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:45 PM) [snapback]437916[/snapback]
Behave.

Beehive
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:06:31
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Apr 21 2008, 07:02 PM) [snapback]437951[/snapback]
Because McGuffie's still invisible?

Poor McGuffie-he's actually been doing a power of work along with Pantaloons in taking the pressure of our back two, and he's going to score this Saturday!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:08:34
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 07:06 PM) [snapback]437957[/snapback]
He said to me, "Listen to Kev and you will go far, son."

Khali does not call the denture thief Kev-he describes him as WALLIES.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:12:27
QUOTE(leyTON @ Apr 21 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]437968[/snapback]
the plan indeed but i know for a fact that the current u17s have been told about the new 19s team as very much a maybe scenario

That well describes our current position.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:14:02
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 07:12 PM) [snapback]437975[/snapback]
Of course.

Good gracious it now looks so naked except for Shooglies wallies.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:15:05
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 07:13 PM) [snapback]437976[/snapback]
Kev would go out tonight...

if he could borrow a coat to wear.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:16:32
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Apr 21 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]437980[/snapback]
That's a matter of opinion and I disagree.
The teams couldn't be separated over the season so an additional game (or two) would be better IMO.

I disagree with both of you. It should be given to Morton because they are our team.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:17:55
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 07:16 PM) [snapback]437986[/snapback]
This man said "it's gruesome that Kevin should care"

as he pulled out his teeth with a long haunting stare
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:19:09
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 07:17 PM) [snapback]437987[/snapback]
Woaw.

May I suggest as you new sig.

Do you like my smile?
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:21:35
QUOTE(Cawston @ Apr 21 2008, 07:12 PM) [snapback]437972[/snapback]
After her Grandpa? tongue.gif

BLOODY HELL-I am psychic-she's HOLLY!


Not a name I'd have chosen but pretty inoffensive I guess! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:22:48
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 07:18 PM) [snapback]437990[/snapback]
Simon's jed.

Kev is dead
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:24:32
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 07:20 PM) [snapback]437994[/snapback]
Naw.

OK-how about

Mr Rae just told me I can keep them.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:25:40
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 21 2008, 07:23 PM) [snapback]438000[/snapback]
I hope you are wrong LT , simply because without an under 19s there is no point in having the other 3 teams .

Guys like Craig Black and others deserved to be playing against their own age group especially after winning their league at 17's .

I would be extremely disappointed in Irons and Collins if what they said would happen did not take place .

By his past decisions DDFR hasn't got a clue about the need , importance or even the economical benefits a strong youth set up can bring if you put enough effort in .

TRUE
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:27:37 [quote name='Deego' date='Apr 21 2008, 07:25 PM' post='438005']
Naw.
GNAW
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:30:08
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 07:19 PM) [snapback]437992[/snapback]
You're not very good at this mortonjag!

I'm not very good at most things but at least I try.

Maybe tomorrow I'll manage to fly
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:31:33 What I said!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:33:00 Scruffytoothpick-Holy Molar
mortonjag 2008-04-21 20:13:33
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 21 2008, 07:44 PM) [snapback]438018[/snapback]
believe it or not you dont get to choose the name. tongue.gif

Never said I did and if I had I'd have called her Keveen.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 20:15:21
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 21 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]438024[/snapback]
to be fair, if anyone ruined this thread it was me and deego and not MJ. Although seeing as the thread was just about dead, thanks to kevs jed and brown bread we didn't really ruin much.

old dutch
mortonjag 2008-04-21 20:16:09 Elkie Brookes -- lilac wine
mortonjag 2008-04-21 20:18:14
QUOTE(SramTon @ Apr 21 2008, 07:58 PM) [snapback]438023[/snapback]
I'd rather we signed him when his dad was still asst manager (still we got Mark McGraw and Peter Cormack Jnr so can't complain blink.gif )

McNamara's had too many injury problems off late and I think he's just about done. Too much of a gamble for us given the amount he'd tie-up in wages.

McNamara's banned!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 20:20:16
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 21 2008, 07:48 PM) [snapback]438020[/snapback]
as i live in the port, i beg to differ.

That's perfectly understandable.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 20:25:16
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 21 2008, 07:25 PM) [snapback]438003[/snapback]

Aye very good Spurtle-don't you think you're floggin' a dead horse-if your bum chum Bawheid had any decent opposition at all he'd not look so f*cking smug-and by the way, Bendy is indeed some coo, but gerry shagger takes the biscuit in the ugly stakes by a country mile! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 20:28:42
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Apr 21 2008, 08:22 PM) [snapback]438035[/snapback]
I have mentioned this on a thread a while back about Queens Park and an interview in fourfourtwo a while back. Queens had commented that financial problems had cost them their reputation in the community and had to put plans in place to win back their fan base, they reaslise that they will also come second to the OF so they want to attract as many as possible.

Anyway they began offering free coaching classes to Primary and Secondary school teachers and volunteers so they could pass on advice etc to children in the area. They also tried some other initiatives to entice children to attend their games and children to play for their football teams.

As I mentioned I believe for any senior team to have teams in a community requires cooperation from the wider community and of course the football club.

Finally on Hamilton I was talking with a guy and his next door neighbours son plays for Hamilton. Apparently this boy is seen as the next big thing and now Hamilton have won the league he will get a run out on Saturday the boy is either 15 or 16- even James McCarthy said in the current fourfourtwo about moving to the EPL that he has a better chance of playing football for Hamilton than sitting in the reserve team at another club.

Tell Mr Rae.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 20:29:46
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 21 2008, 08:23 PM) [snapback]438036[/snapback]
The whole play offs involving 9th is a nonsense . So is the suggestion of playing a play off to play in the play offs that the final might need not be played because Gretna may not be allowed to play because of their stadium , thats if they survive administration .
These guys should write some of the comedies for the TV

They probably do Chris!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 20:31:43
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Apr 21 2008, 08:26 PM) [snapback]438039[/snapback]
laugh.gif

Don't-you'll upset the gentle folk.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 20:33:36
QUOTE(stubaws @ Apr 21 2008, 08:30 PM) [snapback]438045[/snapback]
to change the team would be ridiculous if everyone is fully fit! stuff still aint quite coming off for mcguffie but then again jenkins aint exactly set the heather on fire YET and wont be match fit so best stick with the same 11 who did so well on saturday. would imagine that the only change would be macgregor on the bench instead of keenan if he's available, same tactics as saturday as we have to win, no point sitting tight for 70 minutes hoping for stirling to do us a favour only for clyde to score and leave us hitting the panic button with 20 minutes to go!

McGregor was DROPPED
mortonjag 2008-04-21 20:36:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 21 2008, 08:22 PM) [snapback]438034[/snapback]
about time you were leavin'

I intend to keep breevin'
mortonjag 2008-04-21 20:37:20 Stones-brown sugar
mortonjag 2008-04-21 20:38:44
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 21 2008, 08:36 PM) [snapback]438051[/snapback]
He fancies Shania Twain......we're doomed!!!!! ohmy.gif

Canadian clubbed.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 20:40:21
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Apr 21 2008, 08:27 PM) [snapback]438040[/snapback]
You really would feel bad if you were a Brummy as three (I think, may have been two) of our goals shouldn't have counted for offside, but Ashley was running them ragged, Gabby could have brought out a sun-lounger and left him and Carew to it, it was that easy!

Liked when Mark Clattenberg just pushed the big defender Jaidi out the way and we got a goal from the counter attack! laugh.gif

Speaking of Petrov, how good is he now he's being played in the holding role of a diamond!??!?!

Bring on the Toffees on Sunday, almost a play-off in itself for the UEFA cup spot!

Did you chat with Shoogly on Saturday?
mortonjag 2008-04-21 21:15:59
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 21 2008, 09:03 PM) [snapback]438068[/snapback]
your patter is heevin'

is deego oot theivin?
mortonjag 2008-04-21 21:18:55
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Apr 21 2008, 08:42 PM) [snapback]438057[/snapback]
Why does he post on threads that have fuck all to do with him? huh.gif

I ain't going to read it you boring old post whore, so go away.

EDIT: I'm not being fucking sensored on my own thread! mad.gif

I asked a legitimate question on a thread about hospitality, and all I get is abuse. That's a poor show-even from you.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 21:21:15
QUOTE(leyTON @ Apr 21 2008, 09:04 PM) [snapback]438070[/snapback]
thought id reseruct this
there seems to be 2 ways of dealing with this one so ill do both
a conventional fact: i have 22 scars
and some crazy way you know someone on the board:LAS once witnessed me break a mans nose:P

I had both legs broken at the one time.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 21:23:08
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Apr 21 2008, 08:41 PM) [snapback]438056[/snapback]
Practise what you preach. rolleyes.gif

I beg your pardon! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-22 06:31:29 The SNP faced claims last night that its energy policy is "in meltdown" after it rejected plans for Europe's largest wind farm to be built on Lewis.

Ministers said they could not approve the proposal because of the impact on the Lewis Peatlands Special Protection Area, protected by European law. Energy Minister Jim Mather stressed it did not mean other wind farms could not proceed in the islands.

Opposition politicians accused the Scottish Government of having an energy policy which was "random in manner". "The SNP's energy policy is in meltdown," said sustainable development spokesman for Labour, Iain Gray. "They are opposed to nuclear power and incapable of agreeing strategic renewable projects to replace it."

LibDem energy spokesman, Liam McArthur, added: "Ministers cannot reject some energy forms and support others in such a random and populist manner."
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The announcement delighted opponents and environmental groups. But it dismayed Western Isles Council, which saw it as key to future economic prosperity, creating 400 jobs and bringing investment.

The developer, Lewis Wind Power, said it was "bitterly disappointed" by the decision.

Bill McAllister, of the Highland Renewable Energy Group, said: "The decision is a social and economic disaster for the Western Isles, but it raises major questions about the Scottish Government's alleged commitment to renewable energy.

"The Scottish administration cannot decide to reject nuclear and opt for renewable energy instead and then reject the large-scale scheme without which the administration has no chance of reaching its own renewable energy supply targets."



laugh.gif laugh.gif

I see Europe is dancing a wee Scottish jig too! huh.gif



mortonjag 2008-04-22 06:36:26
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Apr 21 2008, 09:42 PM) [snapback]438093[/snapback]
Hmm, you truly are the master of spin! rolleyes.gif wink.gif

Don't be a silly billy.

If Chocolate boy and the Spectral one want a cosy little chat they should pm each other.

FAO threads on the open forum are a contradiction and deserve everything they get.

Furthermore I WAS interested to hear another's experience of our much maligned Chairman. It doesn't matter now-the anally retentive little anorak's not worth it. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-22 06:39:50 It's always the same in those situations. I remember the famous bread strike of the seventies, when an old lady was literally mugged in Coatbridge Asda because she'd got the last loaf of the shelf.


Man's inhumanity to man-eh! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-22 06:49:02
QUOTE(CivicTypeR @ Apr 21 2008, 10:39 PM) [snapback]438127[/snapback]
Agreed.
just because the celtic fans hang tri colours round the stadium doesnt mean the scottish fans arent scottish? what else would u call them? The team is always going to have irish roots, but if your scottish then that doesnt that mean that you generally are from scotland?

Could the same not be said for rangers fans who call themselves scottish yet sing rule britania at the start of every game?

I know tons of Scots who wear turbans and Saris and stuff!
mortonjag 2008-04-22 06:50:57 I went to the same school as Anabel Goldie, Jim Mather, and Andrew Neil. None of them was particularly bright.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 06:53:57
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 22 2008, 06:19 AM) [snapback]438162[/snapback]
Oh dont you start! one is bad enough! laugh.gif

The point is that Spurtle believes not only that the statement makes sense (which it doesn't), but he uses it frequently when he has no answer!

Best to get it correct! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-22 06:55:45 Latter day Hal Stewarts!
mortonjag 2008-04-22 06:58:59
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 22 2008, 06:33 AM) [snapback]438164[/snapback]
You are up early today MJ!

Indeed- and will be up increasingly earlier until midsummer. My mind is controlled heavily by the weather and phases of the moon.

Anyhow it's nice to see wee Jim doing what Europe told him to. He was always an obedient child in Kilmacolm Primary School, and never the sharpest tool in the box, though he had a smashing flexy flier sledge, and a wee sister called Lorna.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 07:05:51
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Apr 21 2008, 10:04 PM) [snapback]438110[/snapback]
And he told you this when exactly? Don't say the Fans' Forum as we know you bottled out of that one. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif



QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 21 2008, 10:10 PM) [snapback]438115[/snapback]
If you were there , you'd have heard who the manager agreed with dry.gif . Jim McColl , DDFR or I

Thanks Chrissiboi-it seems to go right over the heads of eejits like Smiffy that Mortonjag has contacts.


It's getting a bit wearing listening to the same old 'bottler' stuff. before the said 'Fans Rally', I quoted:

'Won't you come in to my parlour said the spider to the fly'? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-22 07:07:55
QUOTE(ton1901 @ Apr 21 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]438121[/snapback]
cause he had a groin injury

NO
mortonjag 2008-04-22 07:09:41
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Apr 21 2008, 10:01 PM) [snapback]438108[/snapback]
Not very original, but Erik was known as 'Skippy' at Gretna. Let's adopt that nickname before MJ comes up with something ludicrous. laugh.gif laugh.gif

PANTALOONS is indeed a very effective player Smiffy.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 07:15:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 22 2008, 12:49 AM) [snapback]438153[/snapback]
Spoonsy never was and never will be...............................................fit. tongue.gif

Spoonsy's turning into a bit of an enigma. Everybody seems to believe that he's a lazy, overweight, unfit alcogambloholic.

Be that as it may, problems like those CAN be dealt with. Noel Hunt, for example, is doing 'no too bad' right now.

Peter has undoubted talent. I'm sure that if he indeed has the problems folk imagine, a proper football club would be seeking professional help for him.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 08:44:36
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 22 2008, 08:37 AM) [snapback]438190[/snapback]
a friend of mine works for jim mather and she describes him as 'a lovely man'. mind you, she's got ginormous tits, so maybe he's only being nice to try and cop a feel in the parliamentary office.

Jim was quite a shy lad who took a fair ribbing at school because his Daddy was the local Polisman.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 08:52:58
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 22 2008, 08:43 AM) [snapback]438193[/snapback]
What do you want Jim Mather to do? Break the law? You or I may not agree with the rules but if you're in the EU there is a need to at leat seem to be complying with EU laws. The wind farm can be sited somewhere else in the area. FFS MJ, your blind hatred of the SNP does lead you to come out with some nonsense.

With wind farms, you can't win. Nobody wants them in their own back garden.

Would that 'blind hatred' equate to the 'personal vendetta' you claimed I had for Mileson? wink.gif

As I've told you before Alibi, I support the concept of effective self government-NOT a ba' heided buffoon lording it over a toothless opposition, reneging on manifesto pledges, making an arse of the NHS, cow towing to Tories and homophobes, and BOASTING about 'making Westminster dance a Scottish jig'.

I've simply posted an excerpt from today's paper POINTING OUT that he's not as powerful as he'd like to be. I'd prefer to be less dependent on f*cking Europe for starters! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-22 08:54:44
QUOTE(se65an @ Apr 22 2008, 07:41 AM) [snapback]438179[/snapback]
Ok we will have Special K for all you fat b*****ds laugh.gif

Special K's a con Sean!
mortonjag 2008-04-22 09:00:29
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Apr 22 2008, 07:55 AM) [snapback]438181[/snapback]
I'm more of the view that individuals should take a wee bit of responsibility for themselves but nice to see you've joined the dependency culture MJ.

For Peter to appear unfit so often over his time with Morton does suggest he has some problems. It would be nice to think he was actively trying to address them given he's the professsional athlete.

Is it possible that he may indeed be aware of, and trying to address them without success, as is commonly the case with addictive problems?

If you understand anything about the addictive personality, you'll know exactly what I mean.

If he was in mainstream work, he'd probably already have been encouraged to seek help from the Occupational Health Service.

That's assuming he indeed has an addictive problem.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 09:27:46
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 22 2008, 09:10 AM) [snapback]438200[/snapback]
Too far , you would never make it! laugh.gif

It's not really very far-I could walk it in about an hour!
mortonjag 2008-04-22 09:47:29
QUOTE(rex manning @ Apr 22 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]438201[/snapback]
Can't he just be on a poor run of form? not an alcoholic gambler? I think Jimmy Boag called it right, he was left in the team for too long when his form dipped. If he had had a couple of weeks on the bench in favour of say Wake it would have helped him no end. I'd be quite confident if he comes on on Saturday that he can do the business.

I don't live in Inverclyde RM, but it seems to be commonly accepted that Spoonsy 'doesn't take care of himself' and he certainly has looked a bit short of pace lately.

Some people have, IMHO, been overly vicious in their criticism IF indeed he has addictive problems, which, after all, are an illness.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 11:00:12
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Apr 22 2008, 10:01 AM) [snapback]438215[/snapback]
Many congratulations. Here's hoping that you may be called upon to perform baby-sitting duties on a daily basis (from 8am-5.30 pm) tongue.gif .

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-22 11:04:07
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 22 2008, 10:43 AM) [snapback]438227[/snapback]
that would be ideal
that would be acceptable too.

It's my fiancee's wedding ring

Tell them she tried it on once and developed a horrible itchy rash on her ring finger. It is therefore unfit for the purpose for which it was sold and they have to refund under the Sale of Goods Act!
mortonjag 2008-04-22 11:07:42
QUOTE(rex manning @ Apr 22 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]438209[/snapback]
I think it's quite sad that people are throwing up this allegation again. Where is the proof? is he propping up the bar at word up every night? I think it's quite a jump from "short of pace" to "Jake bag".

I get annoyed when I hear it too, but the same story is repeated time after time by normally reliable posters, and even JM made guarded remarks about Peter's 'fitness'.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 11:09:36
QUOTE(ton1901 @ Apr 22 2008, 10:02 AM) [snapback]438216[/snapback]
well his brother was the one that told me that. he told the physio it was it was a bit tight and that was him out

I got my story from a reliable source.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 14:37:34
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 22 2008, 12:40 PM) [snapback]438280[/snapback]
What you on about ya dottery auld helmet ? blink.gif

Are you addressing Mortonjag, Bannock Baws? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-22 14:42:03
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 22 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]438302[/snapback]
WDE, have to confess the shop in question is excellent. I got a watch as an engagement present from my wife years ago. It needs serviced and cleaned every 12 to 18 months and I always go back to them to get it done. The staff are very professional and knowledgable.

She. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-22 14:47:55
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 22 2008, 01:53 PM) [snapback]438303[/snapback]
I received the administrator's report today and some of the figures are shocking. The administrator was appointed around the 9th March, and up until the 16th April (around 5 weeks) they had accrued fees of £250,000. That's £50,000 a week!! Their charge out rate is over £206 an hour FFS!

Incidentally, the SPL has advanced Gretna £272,000, allegedly to keep the club going, but virtually all of this had already been syponed off by the administrators by this time last week, and they're still syphoning. How is this benefiting the creditors?

This whole business stinks to high heaven, even if Mileson isn't getting a kickback from the administrators (which wouldn't surprise me given some of the stuff I've been told.

It is clear that the compnay has been trading insolvently for months if not years. Oh, and I finally lost patience and phoned Mileson on his mobile. Surprise surprise, he's changed his number. Even Graeme Muir hasn't heard from him (and Graeme says he is owed about £6k for stuff he bought for Gretna on his credit card).

Oh yes, and the administrator's report states that the problems were caused because Mileson was ill. Absolute rubbish.

Why is Mileson getting such an easy ride here? Why are the Press not doorstepping him?

Creditors' meeting on 8th May at 11am. I will be there and I don't intend to sit there quietly - a lot of embarrassing questions to ask.

It's very unpleasant being raped Alibi-especially when the rape is (purportedly) legal.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 14:55:05
QUOTE(BlackIsleTon @ Apr 22 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]438250[/snapback]
He is the holding midfield player we have needed for a while, get him signed up. So is McGuffie - alot of people overcriticise him i think he does a brilliant job that goes unoticed.

Harding and Greacen have looked twice the players since Pantaloons and Huffy started mopping up for them. I'm getting a bit fed up with constant criticism of the latter-we've never looked back since they paired up at Palmerston. Folk have got paralysed by the flatter to deceive, headless chicken stuff of JM's midfield midgets!
mortonjag 2008-04-22 14:57:22
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 22 2008, 12:32 PM) [snapback]438274[/snapback]
Ach shoosh you old fool, it was a joke. They know my style.

Quote from Harold Shipman! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-22 15:06:21
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 22 2008, 12:48 PM) [snapback]438284[/snapback]
ps. I think Mortonjag should be banned or reined in by the administrators of this website.

Let me ask you a question you hirsute clown-do you know Douglas Rae personally-and by that I DON'T mean know him to see?


If so, you are biased and your opinion isn't worth a can of Irn Bru.

If not, your opinion is based on a totally random take of what he's 'done for you'.


For what it's worth, I have several pieces of confidential information which lead me to the inevitable conclusion that the Chairman has 'lost the place' so far as our club is concerned. That does NOT lead me to ask for his supporters to be 'banned or reined in'.


Hopefully your newly found status may speed your growing up process. Good luck!
mortonjag 2008-04-22 15:09:23 Steptoe and son move slowly at all times.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 15:18:22
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 22 2008, 03:14 PM) [snapback]438353[/snapback]
This post will be reported, and I urge anyone else insulted directly by MortonJag to do the same. Report button, bottom left corner of each post, so we can rid our formerly good messageboard of him.
My wanting you banned is not just in your referring to the Morton chairman, constantly, as a fud or old fud, but also your homophobic, hair-ophobic, EVERYTHING-phobic posts which are destroying this board and every thread you infest.

This has nothing to do with supporting Mr Rae or not, it has everything to do with your ruining this place for just about everyone.

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Excellent stuff.

Hark at yourself almighty one-no sorry


*bleep* OFF dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-22 15:20:59
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Apr 22 2008, 03:18 PM) [snapback]438359[/snapback]
Calm down. Live and let live. You don't have to read any posts on here that you don't want to. rolleyes.gif

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I thought Mr Rae was the arrogant one who wanted to foist his opinions on everybody else-maybe the good Dong has inherited some of his genes! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-22 15:29:10
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 22 2008, 03:23 PM) [snapback]438368[/snapback]
i think you demean the concept of rape by using the word so loosely. i suspect you've been looking for a bite on that one for a while now, so here it is.

Chambers Dictionary

Rape-plunder, seizure


Rapacious- grasping, greedy for gain.



There-I bit.

Alibi is entitled to feel raped. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-22 15:42:11
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 22 2008, 03:30 PM) [snapback]438377[/snapback]
Yeah, sure, has he insulted you yet? Thought not wink.gif
I don't think he should be calling the Morton chairman a fud, and I'd say that even if I despised the man.

It's all about respect and MortonJag's going to have to start learning about that soon, or I'll do my utmost that he regrets he didn't show more.

We're on here to stick up for ourselves, Rae or whoever his next target is isn't. Insults don't bother me, but in MortonJag's case, they will from now on...

Respect is earned. Scott, the ex Morton Chairman was, I presume, highly regarded by your goodself because of his status. Would you not have dreamt of calling him a 'fud' even in a moment of rare weakness?

I really DO think you need to grow up son-now that's not meant as an insult-I actually find your puerile loyalty to a badge of office quite endearing-and indeed I am old enough to be your father.

I am very careful about what I say, and the way I put things-even if it often looks quite the opposite, and many posters with whom I share regular p.m.'s know that I am absolutely meticulous in never betraying confidences or revealing private information I've been passed.

The one thing about your post which I do take exception to is the element of threat. Mortonjag does NOT threaten people, and refuses to be threatened by you or anyone else.

It takes all kinds to make the world go round. Don't let a sad old man get your knickers in a twist!

mortonjag 2008-04-22 16:23:17
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 22 2008, 03:54 PM) [snapback]438389[/snapback]
MJ has insulted me before and i've insulted him on threads but then on another thread at the same time as we're arguing we'll be having a laugh.

If either of us saw it as more than just an internet messageboard and really thought we wished bad things on each other then im sure we'd both report each other.

you just have to look at the thread about MJ's new grandaughter and the well wishes, some probably from people who dont particularly like him to know not to take this all too seriously.

he is an old fud though.

You have been duly reported-feel threatened-your end is nigh! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-22 16:34:50
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 22 2008, 04:26 PM) [snapback]438409[/snapback]
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only 16 years until your Grand-daughter is 16. Can't wait to call you Granpappy. tongue.gif


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BTW PT, do you realise that the term 'fud', as used by myself, is a shortened form of 'Fuddy Duddy'-a person who is very old fashioned and pompous according to the Oxford dictionary?

If some of our esteemed posters were more literate they might not find that description of Mr D.D.F. Rae, Chairman of Greenock Morton Football Club, and celebrated international confectioner, to be much off the mark.

I have never suggested that Mr Rae ever does anything but his very, very best, and have it on excellent authority that his heart is in the right place. Those are indeed commendable qualities.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 18:56:47
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 22 2008, 06:36 PM) [snapback]438481[/snapback]
Who do I think I am? I'm a user of this board, just like you, and that's why we've all got that little report button. For reporting, that's what it's for.
Don't have a scoob what the rest of your post is about regarding STT etc, but I don't put myself in that category of supporter.

One of the problems I have with MJ is that HE does! THAT'S who you should be targetting in your post, not me if that is what you are doing! HE says he has "info", knows what Mr Rae is really like, blah blah slever blah. He's the one calling the shots on this thread and every other one he gets his teeth into, and ridiculing and belittling and insulting any who disagree or contest his points, usually with a put down about their sexuality and lack of years.

I'm not trying to silence someone's opinion.
The guy is taking the p1ss out this place, why don't you admit it Russell?

Am I being too sensitive that homosexual Morton fans reading this clowns constant references to poofs and gays, etc, etc are being offended? Am I being too protective of the chairman of Morton by saying he maybe deserves a little more respect than being constantly referred to as a fud?

Toby, I disagree with you. I don't think it is right that someone can go on about poofs and niggers and sluts and so on, no, even in the anarchic world of footy messageboards there has to be some decorum, surely. I am as near the knuckle as any on here with some of my attempts at humour, say, but this guy just rants crap. Sorry.

You most certainly are-that is YOUR problem!

This is NOT about Douglas Rae, or the homosexuals you claim I offend, when every post I ever make about sexuality is tongue in cheek, and when I go to every Morton match with a homosexual, whom I regard as my best pal-it's about Donga's monstrous ego and the fact that he just can't cope with Mortonjag.

Now why don't you just run along sonny and accept you ain't going to start a revolution on here. I don't take you to task for your obsession with wee pop tunes and girls.

One final point-if you have been one of Douglas Rae's greatest critics in the past, what has altered your opinion?
mortonjag 2008-04-22 18:58:49
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Apr 22 2008, 06:51 PM) [snapback]438484[/snapback]
Your an Old Fud

Indeed, young man - I probably am in the eyes of most jumped up brats. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:07:02
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 22 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]438504[/snapback]
This revolution would never have happened in Nacho's day!

I hope that's not a criticism of our Mods-they are good chaps I assure you.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:09:29
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Apr 22 2008, 07:07 PM) [snapback]438514[/snapback]
Aw aye, now I remember. Aye, this new regime is gay. Of course, by gay, I mean happy.

You have just been reported for arrant homophobia-be thoroughly ashamed.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:10:38
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 22 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]438516[/snapback]
our mods are excellent, but nacho was a Super-Mod.

he even had the lycro outfit, with pants over tights with " SM " written on it.

Spank me?
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:12:43
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 22 2008, 04:14 PM) [snapback]438402[/snapback]
Aye... unsure.gif

You have been duly reported for disrespect-feel ashamed.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:14:46 They're probably gone by now, but douse in lemon juice and seasoning, cover in cling film and microwave on medium for four or five minutes.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:16:58
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 22 2008, 03:35 PM) [snapback]438379[/snapback]
Well, I don't. Ripped off yes, but I agree that raped is not the appropriate word to use.

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mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:18:33
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 22 2008, 07:02 PM) [snapback]438502[/snapback]
what's more, we share the majority of our dna sad.gif

The world is a much better place for Mortonjag's DNA.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:21:12
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 22 2008, 03:28 PM) [snapback]438374[/snapback]
Was that you or the cheeky monkey??

Fing.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:23:42
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Apr 22 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]438515[/snapback]
Did I miss something about Hal? Or were you his GP? I think we should be told...

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Oh I'm sure Hal's balls were perfect in every way.

I was alluding to the fact that (so far as I'm aware) Morton were the first British side to sport fluorescent strips.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:25:26
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Apr 22 2008, 07:18 PM) [snapback]438532[/snapback]
I never micro fish as it just explodes on me sad.gif

It's all to do with cooking them slowly enough LL.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:29:08 I have had a quarter of a tank since the weekend and haven't needed to use the car. Thankfully we're at Firhill this Saturday.

Mind you, for the first time ever, I've considered getting one of those bus passes to which I believe I may be entitled. I'm a great believer in independence, but maybe I'm shooting myself in the foot.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:36:26
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 22 2008, 03:23 PM) [snapback]438370[/snapback]
your contacts are blatantly looking at threads on here. tongue.gif

if you had such damning evidence against Dougie then you would show us it, not only to make everyone know you're right all along, but as fellow Morton fans we'd have the right to know if he was f***ing up our club.

but seeing as you're the master of all smoke and no fire i won't hold my breath, as Dougie probably has more damning evidence against you than you do against him.

What has he been telling you next?
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:39:19
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 22 2008, 05:43 PM) [snapback]438456[/snapback]
i'm sure if i have i'll be reported by Donga in due course. tongue.gif

Lay off poor Donga you


TROUBLE MAKER
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:42:41
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 22 2008, 07:41 PM) [snapback]438547[/snapback]
what he has told me is private, i'll never tell. Just know that i have been given information about MJ from Dougie that would show you all what an egomaniac he is and would ruin his life, reputation and change the way this board runs forever!
...but ill never tell.

...which just goes to prove I was right in not trusting the Shooglemeister.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:44:02
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 22 2008, 07:42 PM) [snapback]438550[/snapback]
Reported! s***ebag!

How dare you call me a s***ebag-how very, very DARE you!
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:46:34
QUOTE(C B @ Apr 22 2008, 07:38 PM) [snapback]438544[/snapback]
Hi Pedro,

Most of the shirts were removed from ebay this morning because it is against ebay policy to accept cash apparently blink.gif and I had listed that I accept cash, (bad me) so I had to change it ?!?!????

Anyway, sorry about that everyone, I have relisted all offending shirts.

Ebay bampots !

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PS Hi everyone i'm new biggrin.gif

May I be the first to say welcome to the forum. It's not every day you get a chance to be personal with somebody elses wife! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:52:31
QUOTE(davidh1874 @ Apr 22 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]438553[/snapback]
Davie Irons is tonights studio guest on beyond the spl, radio scotland, with Bill Leckie and Des McKeown from 8pm.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/sol/newsid_64...s=1&bbcws=1

Interesting-TY!
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:55:51
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 22 2008, 07:52 PM) [snapback]438559[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-04-23 06:29:08
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 22 2008, 08:27 PM) [snapback]438576[/snapback]
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bluff!!



True-Trumpet!


QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Apr 22 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]438667[/snapback]
Aye that's a good one Mortonjag - what about the girl with the bi-polar condition whose brilliant career was halted due to her illness and is now only able to work as a volunteer in Oxfam Music on Byres Rd. Christ, you basically told us everything about her except the colour of her knickers.



Did she give you prior permission to divulge her mental health problems to all and sundry on a public messageboard?



What about her-she's a friend-not a patient. Her knickers are usually white with red polka dots, but when she's really high she wears none, and shaves her pubes in the shape of a raspberry tart.











QUOTE(nach0king @ Apr 22 2008, 11:12 PM) [snapback]438716[/snapback]
It's like the time he claimed he "always" tries to answer any question put to him, before around 30 minutes later proceeding to do, err, the exact opposite.



Goodness, the children are very clever at casting up mistruths.


QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 23 2008, 02:10 AM) [snapback]438814[/snapback]
Now all the rose tinted brigade are offended because you highlight there stupidity , I mean how many are happy to go along with the party line no matter the outcome .

The moderator should and does police the boards . Using a smokescreen about MJ being offensive just to save yourself a summer of I told you so's .

I wonder who is next on the donga witchhunt , so the trumpet will be passing out the pitchforks .

If you make the same job of it as Dougie has of running the club this year I don't think MJ will have anything to worry about , probably won't be able to get the better of the monkey knowing you lot .

If you take offence , good .


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mortonjag 2008-04-23 07:01:51
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 22 2008, 07:57 PM) [snapback]438561[/snapback]

What are you sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif ing at Trumpet? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 07:06:13 Our manager's just been the guest on an hour long radio programme. I'm fascinated to read the flood of comments! rolleyes.gif


I was impressed by David Irons-clearly a good deal brighter than his paymaster. Hopefully he'll be able to get his own way while making the former feel he's still in charge! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 07:08:00
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 22 2008, 09:53 PM) [snapback]438634[/snapback]
...and we are not right to trust you.

im happy to trust both of you or neither of you, but not just you. you're too alike to think differently. tongue.gif

Do you REALLY think I'm like Mr Rae. If so, why do I come in for so much abuse?
mortonjag 2008-04-23 07:13:24
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 22 2008, 11:00 PM) [snapback]438702[/snapback]
well done moronjag, here's to more of your ..
oh, sorry sad.gif

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Don't worry Trumpet, 'moronjag's long since learned from the mistakes of his younger days. It never ceases to amaze me the fuss that's still made over weddings, when every c*nt lives in sin anyway.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 07:18:06
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 22 2008, 08:05 PM) [snapback]438565[/snapback]
that's not what the banana said laugh.gif

The banana, like many of our younger posters, was jealous and deluded.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 07:20:38
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Apr 22 2008, 07:38 PM) [snapback]438543[/snapback]
I know that's not what you mean, but Colkitto will love that quote. tongue.gif

Spurtle knows I want independence-I just can't abide the politics of Bawheid and his bairns.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 07:24:48
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 22 2008, 09:36 PM) [snapback]438617[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Apr 22 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]438583[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So what are the men like on this forum? wink.gif
Can't speak for the rest of them but I'm hung like a dunkey.

Aye pimpleknob you've still got a bit of hope stickin' oot yer erse this morning..
mortonjag 2008-04-23 07:27:04
QUOTE(C B @ Apr 22 2008, 07:59 PM) [snapback]438562[/snapback]
You may, thank you and is it every other day? wink.gif
You look a lot like Kevin Finlayson unsure.gif
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I go for quality, not quantity Mrs CB!
mortonjag 2008-04-23 07:30:40
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 22 2008, 08:44 PM) [snapback]438590[/snapback]
You give it out but can't take it ? rolleyes.gif

You have touched a very tender spot Spurtle-I have been weeping inconsolably all night-important people have been calling for my head on a platter, and I don't know if I can take much more.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 07:39:29
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Apr 22 2008, 10:49 PM) [snapback]438689[/snapback]
I had a situation a few years ago when I tried to do my duty as an upstanding citizen. I reported any anti-social behaviour I saw along with a couple of crimes I witnessed. I made statements to the polis and let them know I was prepared to be a witness. And I never heard another word. And then they stepped on my toes. And I battered the ringleader in front of his mates.They disappeared like snow aff a dyke. Five minutes later I had 3 of the Mets finest,including a Sergeant at my door. I told them what I thought of them and denied any knowledge of the incident. Guess what? I never heard a word about it! And the miscreants never showed their faces round my way again. Your only a youngster, same sort of ages as these toerags were, so I understand you still being idealistic. Please don't think I'm patronising you but when you have been around for another 30 years you might understand why I feel the way i do. My method worked and that's what I'm interested in. wink.gif

Indeed, you cannot put an old head on young shoulders. Our nation is currently in a stranglehold of political correctness, and our justice system is failing us.

I can't but laugh at our youngsters when they claim the birch would be seen as a badge of achievement-that, coming from a generation who've never even seen the taws in school is utterly risible.

Do you recall the well publicised Isle of Man case:

Probably the most notorious case was in July 1965 when four 19-year-old thugs on holiday from Glasgow got 9 strokes each -- more or less equivalent, one supposes, to 36 strokes of the cane across the bare seat. This led to a great clamour (especially in Scotland) to bring back the birch on the mainland, with the famous picture in the Sunday Mirror in which a couple of the youths show (a few of) their weals.

Behaviour can always be controlled by a judicious balance of carrot and stick. Unfortunately some little asses are allergic to carrots.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 07:44:43
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Apr 23 2008, 12:16 AM) [snapback]438785[/snapback]
I played table tennis on the table Boris Yeltsin played on when he was at his purpose built residence in Eastern Russia... wondered about the whole place. Kalashnikov carrying guards raised the barrier to let us in. The vistors book only had a couple of dozen entries, all foreign dignataries... then me! laugh.gif Helmut Kohl had signed a couple of places above. I'm one of 5 brothers. I'm also double jointed!

So am I, and have a wee sister too!
mortonjag 2008-04-23 07:47:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 23 2008, 12:00 AM) [snapback]438773[/snapback]
green beans ?

butter beans ?

borlotti beans ?

Roman beans ?

Cranberry beans ?

Saluggia beans ?

Rosecoco beans ?

has beans ?

broad beans ?

baked beans ?

Is another poll required ?

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QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 23 2008, 12:07 AM) [snapback]438778[/snapback]
oops - I forgot ...
red kidney beans

lima beans

Garbanzo beans

great northern beans

any more ?



I suspect the beans our posters refer to are 'baked beans in tomato sauce'!

Peas are better for you and contain more vitamin and fibre in general!
mortonjag 2008-04-23 07:51:02
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 22 2008, 11:40 PM) [snapback]438746[/snapback]
Neither does mortonjag yet he manages!



QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 22 2008, 11:58 PM) [snapback]438772[/snapback]
think there are so many cliques on this board that a lot of people feel intimidated about posting, i know i was when i first came on this board.

Although i used to talk a lot more sense when iwas just saying my opinion to stangers rather than having the confidence to have conversations with them as people i know of and relate to etc.

now i just talk a pile of pish and after ive said it i bang my head of my desk and a little piece of me dies inside.



QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 23 2008, 01:01 AM) [snapback]438804[/snapback]
i'm already gone. I have me an older man, a doctor. Finally a man with social standing to keep me warm at night, and cure my piles.

How does one become a member of one of those cliques. I feel very isolated?
mortonjag 2008-04-23 07:53:35
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 23 2008, 07:18 AM) [snapback]438825[/snapback]
Thanks!
Thanks!
thanks!
thanks paul!
Err, thanks! smile.gif

Well-every c*nt except Donga! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 07:58:19
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 23 2008, 07:54 AM) [snapback]438837[/snapback]
? It was brought up to convey that he thinks something of me, and he's wrong,and many think something of him, and they are wrong. Totally valid. No one's stuck up for Toby more than me on threads he's been criticised on.

All that most are pointing out? Have a read through again, take the donga'sadick glasses off for a minute. wink.gif

I love your last line. You are correct. I MAY disagree, we are all entitled to that. Without fear of ridicule, called a clown, accusations of having chairman's faces tattoed on our arses and being told we are trumpets with rose tinted spectacles, on.
I've been accused of trying to stop free speech? I'm shouting out in favour of it cos mine is being stifled. I'm one of the good guys, Jack. wink.gif

I called for a board user to be reined in, asked the moderators. Of course, banning is way over the top. Intentionally so, on my part. This was all a warning shot, a reminder that there's report button and that people can't just rampage through this place, which is for all of us, like it's their own plaything, with us that use it toys to be played with.

I hope he's got the message.

Loud and clear almighty one-loud and clear! rolleyes.gif


Where is the sermon being preached this Sunday-I'd love to come along?
mortonjag 2008-04-23 08:01:40
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 23 2008, 07:58 AM) [snapback]438840[/snapback]
Note the use of the multi reply function there, MJ wink.gif

Yes Dear, I've quite got used to it thanks to your helpful advice. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 08:03:41 Happy birthday Greacen-you are three weeks older than my daughter-have a nice day!
mortonjag 2008-04-23 08:04:59 Other forum for this sh*t! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 08:07:05
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 23 2008, 08:02 AM) [snapback]438842[/snapback]
Ah see, you say you'd come and would then sh1t out of it. wink.gif

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I promise to come-honest-it's been a long time since I worshipped, and I'm clearly in need of divine intervention!
mortonjag 2008-04-23 08:08:43
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 23 2008, 08:03 AM) [snapback]438843[/snapback]
I know it's dented the ol' post count, but it makes you just about bearable mate. smile.gif

unsure.gif

Thank f*ck I'm not unbearable then! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 08:10:11
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 23 2008, 08:08 AM) [snapback]438847[/snapback]
If you persist in calling me 'pimpleknob' I will be forced to report you to the Moderators.

Consider this your last warning.

Nae probs micropenis.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 08:17:41
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 23 2008, 08:12 AM) [snapback]438850[/snapback]
You didn't need divine intervention, you just needed a reality check. smile.gif

I'm real-HONEST!

Just about to run my darling to work-toodle pip!
mortonjag 2008-04-23 08:38:35
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 23 2008, 08:31 AM) [snapback]438853[/snapback]
I don't know if I can take much more either blink.gif

Shall we do it then? sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 08:40:27
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 23 2008, 08:35 AM) [snapback]438855[/snapback]
Ha ha, that'll do, cheers. smile.gif

You're a sucker for propriety nae vat shoes.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 08:41:48
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 23 2008, 08:13 AM) [snapback]438851[/snapback]
ps. Other forum for this sh1te! smile.gif

Tell your pals-they'll switch it over for you! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 08:55:18
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 23 2008, 08:49 AM) [snapback]438859[/snapback]
Rae gets a lot more abuse than you, you're both just misunderstood.

Are you acquainted with Mrs Rae? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 08:57:05
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 23 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]438860[/snapback]
the grand-master doesn't have a clique, he just watches over his minions.

But Donga's not speaking to me-won't you tell me-PLEASE? sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 09:31:09
QUOTE(nach0king @ Apr 23 2008, 09:16 AM) [snapback]438864[/snapback]

I said I attempt to answer questions-NOT rhetorical questions.

You didn't seriously want an answer to that, or if you did, perhaps you can now pose your query in a clear and specific manner.

If, however, it's about my publicising confidential information don't be daft.

The truth is, ex-mod, that you're exposing your vulnerability to Mortonjag's fatal charm, and it doesn't become a man of your intelligence.

Nor, for that matter, does harbouring petty schoolboy grudges! ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 09:36:02
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 23 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]438863[/snapback]
Now that's what I call irony! smile.gif

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Ironic as it may well be, the minions should know better than to question the Grand Master's authority.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 09:37:39
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 23 2008, 09:28 AM) [snapback]438865[/snapback]
Aye, you first tongue.gif

Nope- pact or nuffin Haggis Heid.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 09:39:26
QUOTE(nach0king @ Apr 23 2008, 09:37 AM) [snapback]438868[/snapback]
If you deem a queston rhetorical then you don't have to answer it, right, I see.

Never considered a career in politics?

Politics is not a career - it's a chronic criminal offence.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 09:52:39 I would like everybody who posts on those forums to be Mortonjag's friend.

He is, in reality, just a lonely and sad old fud, and the constant criticism is disheartening, and weakening his will to live.

The huge effort he makes on a daily basis to stimulate thinking people appears either to fall on barren land, or to provoke unwarranted abuse from perfectly sane people who should know better.

Do you REALLY want Mortonjag to perish? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 09:56:55
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 23 2008, 09:45 AM) [snapback]438871[/snapback]
Click to read

Surely this club ought to be would up now.

I feel for guys like Alibi as surely the administrators are breaking the law and committing theft by allowing them to continue.

They are being well and truly raped-the knock on effect for small business must be huge. I believe that the Administrator has much to explain.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 10:06:37
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Apr 23 2008, 10:02 AM) [snapback]438875[/snapback]
Has to laugh at the other Guy in the Tele last nite filling up withe £50 to fill his tank "if everyone fills ther tanks ther will be caoes" unsure.gif unsure.gif is it just me

At least his tank was pretty empty Pedro-those who are buying a tenner's worth to fill up are the real problem.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 10:11:37
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Apr 23 2008, 10:06 AM) [snapback]438878[/snapback]
That's just Mother Nature... wink.gif

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I never thought of that. Is Mother Nature also to blame for the constant abuse poor Mortonjag has to suffer on a daily basis?

If so Mother Nature is an old FUD.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 10:15:45
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Apr 23 2008, 10:04 AM) [snapback]438877[/snapback]
Aidsridden McGheady the pathetic, plastic paddie, partakes in painful prostate pouvrie to parturition plums. blink.gif

That's an extremely serious allegation.

There again I may be misunderstanding the meaning of your sentence. Allegators should ensure nobody can snap back.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 10:19:01
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Apr 23 2008, 10:14 AM) [snapback]438883[/snapback]
The battle to be the messageboard leader continues......that's right a public messageboard where you can display picures of your pet monkey, your album of the week and any old tosh you like, excatly what a messageboard should be.

Those with any greater agenda's are a little sad in my opinion.



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QUOTE(Boozehound @ Apr 23 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]438885[/snapback]
Will the talk of banning please stop now as apparently I'm "one of the worst offenders on this board". unsure.gif


Don't be silly BH-many of your posts are little gems.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 10:46:05
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Apr 23 2008, 10:21 AM) [snapback]438888[/snapback]
Sounds as if you are depressed. I would suggest that you call the Samaritans.

Maybe you will got one of the new Samaritan call centres in Pakistan so that when you tell them that you are suicidal, they will ask you if you also want a job as an HGV driver biggrin.gif .

Boom Fecking Boom!



I tried that last time-they told me to take a couple of aspirins and 'phone back in the morning if I felt no better. I said that I might not be there in the morning, and she just laughed and hung up on me.


QUOTE(Boozehound @ Apr 23 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]438891[/snapback]
No (more) abuse for you from me Doc. I appreciated the free medical advice you see, so you're off my list. For now.


Anyone is welcome to my home remedies BH-I'm currently working on a treatment for excessive body hair-oh and I've just patented my therapy for brown tongue syndrome.


QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 23 2008, 10:38 AM) [snapback]438898[/snapback]
Did it come back positive mate? Unlucky sad.gif



I've always been unlucky.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 10:53:49
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 23 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]438897[/snapback]
I don't want to be leader of anything, I want the board to belong to everyone again.

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QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Apr 23 2008, 10:38 AM) [snapback]438899[/snapback]
I'm actually refraining from posting. I'm assuming that if Boozie is one of the worst offenders on here and frequently crosses the line then I'm at least lumped in that same category by that section of board members who feel we cross the line and have too much levity.

Shame really.

This thread, if nothing else, merely heightens my belief that we should have another board (either as part of this board, or if that is not something that the current owners wish to host then have it elsewhere) which would be members only, aimed at like minded people who don't take things to heart too seriously and who are up for a bit of craic.

Now that doesn't meant that forum would be OK for any racist/religious/family attacks etc but a bit like the old night shift forum it would give those of us who sadly have the same sense of humour somewhere to play on a late Friday night without impinging on the sensitivities of the rest. By default it would become a board full of people who've been around for several years on several message boards accusing each other of the same sh�te we always have - just in private. Members only means that anyone who joins can't get a veto on our levity or sense of humour - it would be self policing - as this board has been over the years.

TonInDublin

ps Boozie, I'm disgusted with the direction in which you have taken this board. For shame young man, for shame.


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mortonjag 2008-04-23 10:56:44
QUOTE(princessTON @ Apr 23 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]438907[/snapback]
Why can't everyone play nice and stop acting like a bunch of bickering women?? unsure.gif

HE started it! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 11:04:09
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Apr 23 2008, 10:57 AM) [snapback]438909[/snapback]
dont worry mate wink.gif ye can be ma buddy


Shucks-thanks Thrax! smile.gif





QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 23 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]438910[/snapback]
Don't be so sensitive MJ. I have had more abuse than I care to remember on these forums over the years. sad.gif

You must be very tough Spurtle-I am but a frail soul-how do you cope with it all? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 11:07:19
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 23 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]438913[/snapback]
Beans for me. Like the piccy mate? Is your cupboard full of these...? biggrin.gif

[attachment=3948:Beans.jpg]

A million housewives every day, pick up a can of beans and say











































where's the bloody tin opener?
mortonjag 2008-04-23 11:08:58
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 23 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]438917[/snapback]
It's not easy MJ. But I have a strong family and friends that support me through the hard times.

You actually sound like quite a nice person Claymore C*ck. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 11:11:14 I was amused to hear the Jag's Chairman describe the SPL as a Panzer Division! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 11:21:22
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 23 2008, 10:36 AM) [snapback]438896[/snapback]
Many thanks HT, and GT.

It's going to be a great day. smile.gif

Will it be an expensive bash?

When do I get the invitation? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 11:41:21
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 23 2008, 11:33 AM) [snapback]438935[/snapback]
It's expensive enough. smile.gif

I'm afraid we are struggling for space, but you are top of the reserve list, but of course smile.gif

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That's overly generous-I knew you were a good guy all along.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 11:44:38
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Apr 23 2008, 11:33 AM) [snapback]438936[/snapback]
There you are! Feeling better already,it's good to talk! laugh.gif

I do feel a bit better-sometimes I feel the whole world is against me but I now realise I have at least two friends.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 11:49:10
QUOTE(leyTON @ Apr 23 2008, 11:44 AM) [snapback]438950[/snapback]
i see your point about my age but for too long people have thought that young people cant make informed decisions, which i refute and its why i think the voting age should be 16
i also think when you advocate these floggings you have young people in mind, like i asid to midtons; would you advocate the beating of a 70 year old criminal?

If you are talking about automatic punishment for certain offences, age should not be a consideration.

Spanking of wrinkled pink botties for the recalcitrant, I say.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 11:51:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 23 2008, 11:49 AM) [snapback]438956[/snapback]
Does anyone else prefer the Branston beans to Hienze or just me?

I always buy the cheapest unbranded-usually Tesco's-ground black pepper and a dash of Worcestershire sauce, and you can't tell the difference.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 12:00:07
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 23 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]438952[/snapback]
Invite him to your place! Yous can sit and talk medical things about your leg or something and me and Fing will do a jigsaw biggrin.gif



Fing would probably prefer you to play with his arsenal.


QUOTE(leyTON @ Apr 23 2008, 11:48 AM) [snapback]438953[/snapback]
you know i like you mj
however if you continue your veil of secrecy, how will we know if you do perish? unsure.gif

The Monkey has already been appointed as my executor-he has all the instructions, including my epitaph:

Here lies Mortonjag-thank f*ck.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 14:46:41
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Apr 23 2008, 01:47 PM) [snapback]439013[/snapback]
Thought you always answered the question MJ? I'll take it you didn't ask her for permission then?

I supppose I could always pop into the shop before the game on Saturday and see what she thinks about you discussing her mental health issues in public........and her pubes.

You wouldn't know her if you met her in your avatar.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 14:52:42
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 23 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]438980[/snapback]
WTF is a dunkey?

A Yale on the lavvy door.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 14:56:43
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Apr 23 2008, 12:14 PM) [snapback]438963[/snapback]
whos mortonjag?

some old fud who upsets weans

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 23 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]438966[/snapback]
Jigsaw first, we'll see how the night progresses!


Fing calls the shots
QUOTE(Yoda @ Apr 23 2008, 01:01 PM) [snapback]438995[/snapback]
I thought it would be "I told you I was ill!!" laugh.gif


'You wouldn't listen'! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 14:57:58
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Apr 23 2008, 12:55 PM) [snapback]438986[/snapback]
Anyone know any good sites for cheap flights to Krakow?

How big is your rocket?
mortonjag 2008-04-23 15:03:07
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 23 2008, 02:52 PM) [snapback]439034[/snapback]
Happy Birthday Bill Shakespeare.

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I think you'll find that the Bard will be 444 this Saturday Mr Bam! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 15:06:05
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Apr 23 2008, 03:01 PM) [snapback]439042[/snapback]
Shocking

I have a horrible feeling that somebody may find this upsetting, but I wonder if Mr Rae knows how to iron a shirt.

If anybody does find this offensive, it's not meant to be, and I also wonder if he polishes his own shoes.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 15:10:45
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Apr 23 2008, 03:00 PM) [snapback]439041[/snapback]
Surely the S.P.L. would have checked this out before giving Gretna their £250,000 pay out before it was due - surely they're not that incompetent !?

Or maybe those who thought that the S.P.L. dished out the money to save the embarrasment of all Gretna's results being declared null and void, making a further farce of the situation, are correct.

Certainly does look good for us if we go to the play-offs, but a real shame for the genuine Gretna fans (club was founded in the mid 1940s) if the club does go bust.

Do you really come from Shawlands?
mortonjag 2008-04-23 15:12:57
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Apr 23 2008, 07:55 AM) [snapback]438838[/snapback]
Creditors include £1.7m loan from Mileson - brass necked cheek in the circumstances.

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mortonjag 2008-04-23 15:15:01
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 23 2008, 02:57 PM) [snapback]439038[/snapback]
Ah the old " Allegations have been made about me, and I know who the alligators are!". wink.gif

In my case attributed first to a certain Charlotte Toal, cooncillor in bonnie Coatbridge by the sea.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 15:23:44
QUOTE(princessTON @ Apr 23 2008, 03:20 PM) [snapback]439057[/snapback]
I just put dirty washing in the basket, and it reappears in my wardrobe washed and ironed, must be the fairies?? wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-23 15:28:55
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 23 2008, 03:23 PM) [snapback]439059[/snapback]
I cannot be bothered searching back but if you half half a memory in other discussions on this this board I have always said the birch should be used for youth crime (under 21s) after that substansial prison sentences should be imposed in prison with no play consoles in cell, no tv's in cell, they could have 3-4 hours per night at recreation to watch tv and play games.
If they wanted to relieve boredom let them read a book or listen to a radio.

I take it your theory is that it would stamp out such problems before the offenders ever reached 21.

I'm sure it would, but I don't see the harm in birching wrinked pink botties, even for first offenders in their nineties. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 15:40:24
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Apr 23 2008, 03:28 PM) [snapback]439061[/snapback]
Oh, and I disagree with Derek Collins 'overseeing' this new system.

Derek is the Morton assistant manager and that should be a job in itself - surely an experienced youth coach should be put on the payrole with overall control of such affairs (and maybe visit New Douglas Park in the process) !

I can't see any need for that at our current level. I always wondered what Martin Clark got paid for.

Obviously a change in fortunes and income would justify more expenditure on staff wages.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 15:42:43
QUOTE(Toby @ Apr 23 2008, 03:39 PM) [snapback]439067[/snapback]
Donga,

At what particular point have I ever tried to come across as a good guy? Never. I know my behaviour at away games upsets alot of people, I know I've said things on here that have really got to folk and I'm the guy that stood outside Forthbank just over a year ago giving our then manager a volley of abuse that should probably have had me locked up. That is not the actions of a "good guy". Some of my mates have come on here in the past to defend me when others have had their piece to say against me, it's never been encouraged by myself though.

If you want to turn the tables on me and imply that folk have a perception of me as a bit of a w*nker that's fine, I'm comfortable with it, always have been. It doesn't change my perception of you in the slightest.

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mortonjag 2008-04-23 15:57:00
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 23 2008, 03:50 PM) [snapback]439078[/snapback]
I asked about the possibility of sponsoring the youth teams separately they could even raffle the sponsorship . Got an unenthusiastic response from Crawford .

I we gave the youth set up a higher profile at the club , info on games players we right up in the local papers you never know that might promote abit of interest and inturn external funding .

I think the problems go much deeper than simply 'fixing' the youth set up. When almost every forward looking club in the country is getting involved with the local community in numerous ways and encouraging identification with the local team, we appear to be stuck in a time warp.

Is it possible for me to blame Douglas Rae for that without yet again being accused of high treason by those who are privy to his grand plan. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 16:04:57
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 23 2008, 04:02 PM) [snapback]439082[/snapback]
I'm not turning the tables on anyone, Toby. And I never suggested you've tried to come across as a good guy.
From the times I've spoken to you, I personally think you're a good guy, I like you and I think you are a diehard Morton fan.
I'm sorry that you don't seem to feel the same way about me, but then again, you don't really know me. And I don't really know you.
All I said was that I feel your perception of me is wrong.
Again, I'm not your friend but I've defended you on here in the past.
I appreciate your honesty in saying you don't like me, but we very very occasionally speak on matchdays and always say hello to each other, which strikes me as odd.

But, I do appreciate such honesty rather than innuendoes on here for years and talking behind the back, as some would do I'm sure. If this thread proves anything it's that I for one say what I think. smile.gif

Cheers.

Namely that others should be disallowed that privilege! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 17:19:14
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 23 2008, 04:05 PM) [snapback]439087[/snapback]
If they take things too far and are insulting? Perhaps.

Thank God we have the Mods then- oh Holier than Thou! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 17:22:17
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Apr 23 2008, 04:45 PM) [snapback]439123[/snapback]
The fees for 5 weeks are a scandal but not untypical of larger firms of insolvency practitioners. if there is a creditor's committee they should be challenging the level of these which set against the size of company are just wholly disproportionate.

Mr Mileson loan will be a 'postponed creditor'. Because of his connections with the club the other creditors will have to be paid first.

The biggest asset is probably Raydale and almost certainly the bank will have a standard security i.e. first charge on that and so they will walk off with whatever it realises.

All in all, the ordinary creditors should not stake their mortgage on getting anything.

WHY are they still in business then?
mortonjag 2008-04-23 17:30:16
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Apr 23 2008, 04:22 PM) [snapback]439097[/snapback]
I remember the tawse from school - you're mistaken, it was seen as a badge of achievement, there was always a bit of kudos attached to being able to "take" the belt, particularly if it was from one of the experts at wielding it!

I did not state that to some the Lochgelly was not a boasting matter ST-I was merely alluding to the fact that we have a generation who have not even SEEN corporal punishment pontificating about its use.

Furthermore, the belt was used to good effect many a time-even if it WAS just on grubby little hands. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 17:32:28
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 23 2008, 04:28 PM) [snapback]439103[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDAre you accusing Fing of being knotty?
mortonjag 2008-04-23 17:38:49
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 23 2008, 05:22 PM) [snapback]439140[/snapback]
I've been asked many times on many Morton messageboards to be a mod, and have always refused. Might not next time, MortonJag wink.gif

I suspect that your current behaviour has made 'next time' unlikely darling!

The term 'self policing' has often been used, and for the vast majority of the time our current chaps seem to know their business.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 17:42:10
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Apr 23 2008, 05:31 PM) [snapback]439145[/snapback]
Usual p*sh from MJ I'm afraid. Greacen's birthday was actually on 31st March. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Smiffy-dunce's cap for you today-go and stand in the corner.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 17:43:26
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Apr 23 2008, 05:33 PM) [snapback]439148[/snapback]
To save the SPL embarrassment I would think. sad.gif

I described it as criminal behaviour from the outset.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 19:41:33
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 23 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]439185[/snapback]
i think your problem with him is that you just might be.

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mortonjag 2008-04-23 19:51:23
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Apr 23 2008, 06:30 PM) [snapback]439165[/snapback]
Well what a surprise, mortonjag twice failing to answer a direct question.

Your reticence would suggest that you're not as "absolutely meticulous in never betraying confidences or revealing private information" as you think.

What are you babbling about clown? I have betrayed no confidences, and have revealed no private information. Had prior consent been required it would have been obtained. Mortonjag does not make mistakes.

QUOTE(nach0king @ Apr 23 2008, 06:55 PM) [snapback]439177[/snapback]
It was rhetorical confidence.

Still in the huff little one? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 19:58:04
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Apr 23 2008, 06:13 PM) [snapback]439160[/snapback]
I don't think I've ever insulted you Mortonjag. I hope that makes you happy. smile.gif



I don't really mind being 'insulted' if there's wit and good humour incorporated GG. It's just a little bit hard sometimes to suffer the inflated egos of jealous little nobodies with a paucity of life experience, moderate intelligence, and large chips on their shoulders. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 20:03:03
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 23 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]439204[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-04-23 20:04:44
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 23 2008, 08:03 PM) [snapback]439211[/snapback]
I think your pretty cool for a doc, doc

....and you're top of my xmas card list Santa! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 20:11:05
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Apr 23 2008, 08:05 PM) [snapback]439214[/snapback]
gretna always have been about as welcome as a bombmaking kit being sold as duty free on american airlines, they have been and always have been a complete joke and the SFL and SPL should have a really good look at themselves, myles said to himself oh dear we really aint that good it must be time to go sick. I personally always have hated Gretna but the utter pash has been ripped out of scottish football by these guys and the english playtoy llama owner. i feel sorry for alibi no doubt esspecially in the current business climate but then they must have been getting away with murder for ages, and on that point if they are digging up Raydale they need to watch they dig up Myles.

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I think it's important to differentiate Gretna pre Mileson from the subsequent farce. They did, however, partake of the poisoned chalice, enjoyed their 'day in the sun', and well and truly f***ed Scottish Football in the process-not least ourselves.

For that reason, I don't share the thoughts of Chairman Rae. They are well and truly dead-let the burial commence with no further ado.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 06:07:16
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Apr 23 2008, 10:28 PM) [snapback]439292[/snapback]
mortonjag is speaking in 3rd person why?

Because Mortonjag does those things

QUOTE(xj2006 @ Apr 23 2008, 10:57 PM) [snapback]439305[/snapback]
ok here is the script

group hug on Saturday

everyone up for it?

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QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 23 2008, 11:15 PM) [snapback]439319[/snapback]
mentaljag sucks the enjoyment out of every thread on here for me.

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QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Apr 23 2008, 11:39 PM) [snapback]439339[/snapback]
Well if place of employment, career details & mental health issues aren't private info, then I'm glad you're not one of my confidants.

I also see that as per usual, when flustered, you resort to petty name calling and general rudeness.

Lovely man.

Indeed I am a very lovely man, and I did not resort to anything. I described you as a babbling clown because you attempted to distort fact to suit your purpose.

I mentioned a personal friend of mine, giving a brief summary of how her life has been destroyed by mental illness. I alluded to the fact that (infrequently) she does stints in a charity shop when she has the intellectual capacity for a rewarding career. That is an illustration of the ravages of psychological illness. At no time have I divulged personal details, nor indeed would she have been in the slightest concerned if I had-she is NOT a patient of mine, nor did I meet her through my profession!

Some of you (and I include my good friend nach0 in this) are bright little chaps who'd do better to learn from Mortonjag when he's in serious mode. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 06:09:49
QUOTE(Toby @ Apr 23 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]439302[/snapback]
Consider it me crawling to you or trying to dig myself out of a hole here Donga, but I don't dislike you at all. I don't see you anywhere near enough for me to dislike you although I do get extremely annoyed by certain things people say, and demanding people be banned from expressing their opinions is extremely high on my agenda.

I've always found there to be a bit of a "hierarchy" amongst the Morton support too
, Scott and Pat Gillan could tell you about the arguments I've had with them over issues like that, although we get on better now.

That said, I think trying to get mortonjag banned is completely out of order and had you been someone who isn't as predominent or is more controversial, amongst the support you would have been shot down in flames. That I won't retract.

However, I had a right good go at Gibbyton last week who's one of my best mates, don't take it as a personal insult.

I'll take this opportunity to wish you all the best for your wedding and the future, but under no circumstances mistake me for a good guy as I do this.

All the best Donga, although I think you are out of order on this issue.


Toby hits the nail on the head! dry.gif


I don't see why I have to be sooked in mind you!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 06:14:37
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 23 2008, 09:18 PM) [snapback]439252[/snapback]
I don't fully understand the financial details but it looks to me as if there has been a trading profit of £11,000 since the administrators moved in - so they will claim they have done their job properly. However that doesn't take into account the £50k a week they are stripping out in the form of inflated fees. The SPL money may be paying the wages of players, but the overall effect is that Gretna have lost about £250k more than they would have had the administrators not moved in. It's theft Jim, but not as we know it.

As I said to the reporter from local radio this afternoon, for £50k a week, I would expect Thierry Henry. With enough left over to pay for Brian Wakes as well....

I have a suspicion that Wilson Field, the administrators, and Mileson are in cahoots on this one. They were his specific choice, and the chief exec who wanted a Scottish firm was over-ruled. I smell tuna.

You are all being raped-why do you reject a term that is absolutely precise-innocent victims of criminal pillage by gratuitous b*****ds. Even Tonsilitis appears to have washed his hands of that lot.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 06:27:00 Aitken seems pretty efficient in the penalty department. This surely has to put Stirling in the mood to finish the season with a wee bit of kudos-like six points from six! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 06:34:34 Clyde would then travel to Cappielow Stadium in Greenock for the second leg on Saturday, 3 May.


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mortonjag 2008-04-24 06:36:03
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Apr 24 2008, 02:47 AM) [snapback]439374[/snapback]
Same as last week.

Only change I'd maybe contemplate would be Jenkins in for Millar.

That makes sense-I don't see this as being a day for 'silky flowing football'! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 07:02:32 I believe we will win on Saturday and Clyde will falter. We must be positive.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 07:04:03
QUOTE(C B @ Apr 23 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]439219[/snapback]
Don't think i'll ask what the men are like on this forum ever again tongue.gif

Absolute gentlemen in real life Mrs CB-every one of us! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 07:06:01
QUOTE(C B @ Apr 23 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]439221[/snapback]
You've only ever been nice to me Mr Jag unsure.gif

I'm always nice to the gentle people Mrs CB-those ambitious little upstarts who want to hurt a poor defenceless old man-that's different! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 07:14:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 24 2008, 03:54 AM) [snapback]439378[/snapback]
I think that the good doctor will confirm that many variety of beans have more fibre than peas.

Peas are just starch balls.

I'm led to believe Newt that weight for weight, garden peas actually have more fibre than the beans in tomato sauce so adored by a million housewives every day! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 07:18:31
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 24 2008, 04:00 AM) [snapback]439379[/snapback]
maybe I'm shooting myself in the foot.
in that case, do you know a good doctor ?

what weapon did you have in mind ?

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I decided to fill up last night!

My wee Saab is a delicate soul who demands the highest octane fuel, and we duly rolled up to the Shell 'V-power' pump. I noticed that the last customer had spent £7.23!


Maybe it was for a motorbike-do they need that sort of fuel? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 07:20:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 24 2008, 04:59 AM) [snapback]439380[/snapback]
Hillary Clinton today threatened to “obliterate†Iran if it launched a nuclear attack on Israel, her most aggressive rhetoric yet against Tehran as she seeks to cast doubts on whether Barack Obama would be a strong commander-in-chief.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/worl...icle3793047.ece
Can the world survive if this woman becomes President ?

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I'd actually prefer Douglas Rae as president of the USA. At least his heart's in the right place.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 07:25:32 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 08:30:15
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 24 2008, 08:05 AM) [snapback]439397[/snapback]
I actually wondered a while ago how much time actually goes into to moderating this site these days, the Morton forum has non Morton related stuff in it and there is numerous duplicate threads. rolleyes.gif

any way back on topic, I'm going to head down to my maws today for a plate of home made broth, 2nd to none I've ever tasted. wink.gif

Does she make it with haugh?
mortonjag 2008-04-24 08:36:39
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Apr 24 2008, 08:29 AM) [snapback]439401[/snapback]
The very thought of you being sooked anywhere is enough to gie you the dry boak.

No offence 'oul yin, but if you're upset about it then the report button etc etc etc

TonInDublin

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When did I say I was upset about it?

Anyway-on the sookin' ---don't knock it till you've tried it, and I wouldn't want to know about 'report buttons'!

Clyping's for cowards, spoilsports, and weans. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 08:39:58
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Apr 24 2008, 08:36 AM) [snapback]439405[/snapback]
My mother, god rest her, only used beef haugh when she was making beef and barley broth.
For more traditional scotch broth she used flank mutton for the stock.

Despite watching her and helping her as a kid week in and week out, and despite doing exactly what she did when she made it, my own home made soup is still a pale imitation of my mammy's. As is my fish and milk, stovies and everything else I prepare using the exact same ingredients and cooking the exact same way.

Say what you like, you'll never beat or copy your mammy's cooking. Those of you who still have them treat them with the respect they deserve - oh, and get wired into any grub your lucky enough to have them dish up for you. Enjoy the soup Jim !

TonInDublin

Bet she also made rice puddin' with raisins-browned in the oven!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 08:47:14
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 24 2008, 08:11 AM) [snapback]439398[/snapback]
It would appear that the rumour is indeed false. He did manage to come through the night but he is very ill. He had to have a blood transfusion and is to ill to travel to France just now.
Sorry if I have caused any upset by posting this thread.

I don't see why you should have upset anybody-you made a genuine mistake.

It's amusing how we have posters who are so bloody precious about bagatelles, but when it comes to a decent man who's dying of cancer, they see that as an opportunity to expose their immaturity and lack of life experience, by trivialising the issue.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 08:55:01
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 24 2008, 08:53 AM) [snapback]439410[/snapback]
St Cadoc's

Is that the one on Barrhead Road?
mortonjag 2008-04-24 08:56:18
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Apr 24 2008, 08:46 AM) [snapback]439408[/snapback]
This is becoming very tedious, Mortonjag.

I was being serious.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 09:00:55
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 24 2008, 08:56 AM) [snapback]439413[/snapback]
That's the tack I am taking, Iain. The number of creditors and the length of time that some of the debt has been outstanding indicates to me without doubt that the company has been trading insolvently for a long time before Mileson's illness (from which he has recovered - this story about his family trying to take control sounds to me like a load of nonsense frankly. He is in hiding for diplomatic reasons). I intend to pursue the directors personally for the debt, and I have asked, and will be asking agin, from what date the company was trading while insolvent. The twice-bounced cheque last November would certainly seem to point to "before November 2007". The other directors are Ron McGregor and his wife - innocent victims out of their depth I suspect, but if they have assets, they're a valid target too.

Mr Mileson was very happy to court the media during 'living the dream'. How is he managing so successfully to escape their attention in a matter which has turned the whole of Scottish Football upside down? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 09:03:18
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 24 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]439414[/snapback]
Well out of date sir, moved from there in 1982 ish. Now on Fruin avenue.

I just wondered-I used to pass the time of day with Tommy when he lived in Meadowhill-a quiet and personable man.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 09:14:47 Who is this Strachan person?
mortonjag 2008-04-24 09:18:15
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Apr 24 2008, 09:11 AM) [snapback]439417[/snapback]
I think the proposal is overkill. Why not a one off match at a neutral venue with clubs splitting the gate receipts? Say the game took place at Love Street or Firhill, there would be a decent 5k plus attendance and a real cup game atmosphere.

Hopefully none of this will matter though tongue.gif

It won't!

Mind you we could always decide it by a penalty shoot out-if it's good enough for the Huns x 2 it should be good enough for us! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 09:19:58
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Apr 24 2008, 09:14 AM) [snapback]439419[/snapback]
People on here need a boo boy Ryan is the man at the moment does a power of work game in game out some would rather have Dean Keenan says it all

Deano was quite a popular 'boo boy' too!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 09:26:09
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Apr 24 2008, 09:22 AM) [snapback]439424[/snapback]
You had them converted yesterday! Did something happen overnight/ Maybe a wee miracle is due for the unbelievers! rolleyes.gif

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Seriously though-I get much comfort from the sayings of our Lord. The beatitudes are well worth a read.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 09:37:10
QUOTE(Capuan @ Apr 24 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]439426[/snapback]
Is that how dougie got mcinally to stay on after the livi game?

The Gospel of James is one of several surviving Infancy Gospels that give an idea of the miracle literature that was created to satisfy the hunger of early Christians.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 09:44:43
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 24 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]439433[/snapback]
I aint been near a kitchen in 20 yrs (apart from my own) and wont be going near one to prepare breakfasts for a bunch of drunks.

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The converted are the best preachers! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 09:50:09
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Apr 24 2008, 09:43 AM) [snapback]439434[/snapback]
its all a pile of s***e MJ, the Bible that is.

To you it may well be a pile of sh*te Gibby, but sh*te has its uses. The family Bible, for example is a traditional cure for ganglia, and is still sworn upon in many a courthouse.

It's the interpretation that's helpful to me on occasion-not debating about virgin births and stuff like that.

Sh*te is also good for your rhubarb.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 09:51:27
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 24 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]439439[/snapback]
FFS I used to like you but you're sounding to much like that 'jakey' se65an. tongue.gif

I might be speaking from experience! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 09:52:20
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Apr 24 2008, 09:49 AM) [snapback]439438[/snapback]
MJ's brother was my History teacher back in my days at the Port High

Joe 90! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 09:57:05
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 24 2008, 09:54 AM) [snapback]439445[/snapback]
i've got about as little time for either of them, but at least the bible is a good read.

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Clearly brings out the charity in your soul my good friend!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 09:58:44
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 24 2008, 09:52 AM) [snapback]439444[/snapback]
i used to like the lansdowne but i blacklisted it a few years ago for utter pish service and because of the baldy arse of a manager.

where's everybody going afterwards? anybody staying up in the smoke?

It's improved greatly since then.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 10:18:01
QUOTE(Edinton @ Apr 24 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]439452[/snapback]
tsk, i'm on here for at least 5 minutes a day for at least 3 days a week dry.gif

...and your avatar proves it.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 10:20:23
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 24 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]439453[/snapback]
i'm glad to hear that. decent places ruined by shoddy service are ten a penny in this country.

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mortonjag 2008-04-24 10:26:31
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 24 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]439458[/snapback]
Personally I find MJ to be a good read biggrin.gif

I do my best to give spiritual inspiration Weegie-not that I imagine myself to be God or anything like that.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 10:28:54
QUOTE(mccaff @ Apr 24 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]439460[/snapback]
18 pages of absolute gash

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You DIDN'T read them did you? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 10:30:43
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 24 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]439461[/snapback]
Heaven forbid! biggrin.gif

Indeed-the boys just away out for some bread and fish BTW!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 10:35:10
QUOTE(leyTON @ Apr 24 2008, 10:32 AM) [snapback]439466[/snapback]
it might, depending on whether mine or midtons approximation is right:P

I think there's more enthusiasm among the regular fans who don't get to every away match, but this game lacks the glory hunting element of Killie/Motherwell/ Dundee United type encounters. I'll be astonished and delighted if we take more than 1500.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 10:40:46 How much money would you knock back in favour of a victory for the Mighty Ton and a draw for Clyde on Saturday?

I suppose some will say they can't be bought at any price, but let's be mature and realistic.

I already have my answer but I asked first! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 11:00:57
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 24 2008, 10:44 AM) [snapback]439472[/snapback]
there's no accounting for taste. have you tried the da vinci code?

I was taught morse code in the Boy Scouts.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 11:06:02
QUOTE(foxy @ Apr 24 2008, 10:46 AM) [snapback]439474[/snapback]
Dont you know tomorrow is friday?

Tomorrow NEVER 'is' but I take your point! wink.gif

QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 24 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]439475[/snapback]
You get the days all mixed up when you get to MJ's age.

My maw's 80 and she's the same.

Your Mummy has a big prostate and wee baws! ohmy.gif

QUOTE(enigmaton @ Apr 24 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]439482[/snapback]
How much drink did you knock back when you were looking at your calendar. laugh.gif

Trouble is I didn't do either!


Now gentlemen-enough of this shilly shallying and ANSWER THE QUESTION! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 11:09:15
QUOTE(stubaws @ Apr 24 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]439488[/snapback]
wheres that then? lookin for a place to watch game beforehand that aint far from firhill



7A Lansdowne Crescent
Kelvinbridge
Glasgow
G20 6NQ
T: 0141 334 4653

Email: lansdownebar@maclay.co.uk

SEO
mortonjag 2008-04-24 11:12:51
QUOTE(peski @ Apr 24 2008, 11:09 AM) [snapback]439490[/snapback]
a would get the biggest syring with about a kilo of smack in it and f***in inject it right into the b*****ds neck if that was ma granny he wid get some dunt then a hate brass monkeys man

Birching would be considerably cheaper!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 11:16:22
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Apr 24 2008, 11:14 AM) [snapback]439493[/snapback]
Robbie Carlyle and Ian McCall have given me money whilst busking.

I could see Corky as a busker-but CARLYLE! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 11:18:44
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 24 2008, 10:19 AM) [snapback]439456[/snapback]
rolleyes.gif

Are you suggesting that he's talking:



Scottish Recipes: Mince and Tatties

Mince and tatties is a common dish in Scottish households.

Recipe Ingredients:

1 tablespoon oil.1
1 large onion, finely chopped.
1 lb beef mince.1
2 medium carrots, sliced.
1 tablespoon toasted pinhead oatmeal.
Water to cover.
1 or 2 beef stock cubes.2
Salt and pepper.
Gravy powder.2
1 lb boiled potatoes, peeled.

Serves 4

Preparation Method:

1. Heat the oil in a pan and sauté the onion until it is brown.
2. Add in the mince and cook until well browned.
3. Add the carrots and oatmeal, mix well and pour in enough water to just cover.
4. Crumble in the stock cubes, season and stir.
5. Cover the pan and simmer the mince for about 20 minutes.
6. Once the mince is cooked thicken the mince with about 3 teaspoons of gravy powder or corn starch mixed with a little cold water.
7. Serve the mince with boiled potatoes. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 11:26:57
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 24 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]439496[/snapback]
I think any civil action would be against the directors themselves - however if I can get the adminstrator to agree that there has been trading while insolvent, that would no doubt be a good start. Mind you, I have my doubts about the independence of the administrators...

There's also the slight problem that any legal action costs a fortune.

Those two sentences sadly seem to sum up the situation. It's never failed to astonish me that the level of public accountability varies so vastly from one profession to another.

One silly mistake by a doctor can lead to a hugely expensive negligence action, and possibly even loss of his livelihood. It seems that those insolvency people can virtually do as they please provided they are fly enough to avoid the basic pitfalls.

When I first described the behaviour as criminal, I did so having carefully looked at the situation, and nothing has subsequently altered my opinion.

They should be brought to book along with Mileson,and the arch criminal SPL.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 11:30:40
QUOTE(mccaff @ Apr 24 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]439468[/snapback]
actually ur wrong there. im headin up with the glory hunters who i went to motherwell with. because its quite close and u can get the train it means u can get a heavy drinkin session out of it an possibly a wee night out in glasgow.



QUOTE(leyTON @ Apr 24 2008, 10:40 AM) [snapback]439469[/snapback]
well it is probably the closest team to us arent they?
add in the easy access and the guarenteed good night out afterwards
the fact that it is (hopefully!) the last game of the season and a decider
and the kids go free and it should be close to full behind the goal
i am in the same boat as largston lot of non morton fans going
theres usually 2 or 3 of us at the game and theres 10 this week

I just hope you're correct. I hope the non Morton fans remember who they're not supporting too! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 11:33:39
QUOTE(Edinton @ Apr 24 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]439473[/snapback]
At least one good thing has come out of this debacle: no more 'Living the Dream' documentaries

Somebody in a pony tail, cowboy boots, a flash Jaguar and cloud of smoke has just been seen pulling up outside Firs Park where JM is rolling the grass!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 11:35:34
QUOTE(stubaws @ Apr 24 2008, 11:10 AM) [snapback]439491[/snapback]
blink.gif address would've been fine but cheers!!! wink.gif right next to underground station then?

You were too quick!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 11:36:11
QUOTE(stubaws @ Apr 24 2008, 11:10 AM) [snapback]439491[/snapback]
blink.gif address would've been fine but cheers!!! wink.gif right next to underground station then?

Across the road!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 11:44:50
QUOTE(rex manning @ Apr 24 2008, 11:25 AM) [snapback]439500[/snapback]
His best position is in defence. He looked a little ring rusty at the weekend but I think I just prefer him to McGregor in the team.

How you can claim he will be playing as a midfielder in the SPL Mr Jag is beyond me.

laugh.gif

Good gracious-he's been used as a bloody dogsbody ever since he arrived because JM had fixed ideas.

The boy is only 24-was signed as an attacking midfielder, and is even listed as a midfielder in the squad profile. He's FAR stronger at his age than, for example, the one footed Craig McPherson was at the same stage. If it had not been for unfortunate injury I believe he would have 'broken through' this season. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 11:48:22
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 24 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]439497[/snapback]
I have paid out over 3k for therapy, I think it was money well spend and have no regrets as I no longer feel the need to wear a wig.

Comment from alcoholic judge on taking early retirement.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 12:00:15
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 24 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]439515[/snapback]
Not into painting by numbers mate tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-24 12:02:02
QUOTE(stubaws @ Apr 24 2008, 11:56 AM) [snapback]439512[/snapback]
good man, have a pint waiting for me and my mates then tongue.gif

unsure.gif


'Fraid I'll be driving to the game Stubaws-but enjoy! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 12:04:18
QUOTE(rex manning @ Apr 24 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]439514[/snapback]
When he arrived he was played in the centre of midfield and was absolute gash. He was then played at left back and did very well and was unfairly, in my opinion ,dropped as soon as McGregor was back fit. He plays on the left hand side centre back extremely well for us. Why move him?

I WOULDN'T move him-Pantaloons and Huffy are doing OK-that doesn't alter the fact that Alex is a natural midfielder.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 12:19:18 When I was four years old my tonsils were removed in the Duncan McPherson Memorial Hospital, as the childrens' ENT ward in Gateside was full. Because of that I didn't get the customary ice crean and jelly after the operation, so my Mum bought me some when we got home to the Port.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 12:22:00 I think the building in its unique position perched out on the quay is very striking. In no way should it be allowed to fall into disrepair like much of Inverclyde's heritage.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 12:24:37 wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 12:48:52
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Apr 24 2008, 12:32 PM) [snapback]439540[/snapback]
Alex's preferred position is central defence

TY Alex.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 12:51:55
QUOTE(Bryan @ Apr 24 2008, 12:38 PM) [snapback]439542[/snapback]

Mileson's son Craig resigned as a director on 26 March this year, but his father remains a director. Mileson senior's withdrawal of financial support came after a sustained period of laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif illness.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 12:54:16
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Apr 24 2008, 12:52 PM) [snapback]439548[/snapback]
All believe in Boozie!! All!! For soon the streets will run red with the blood of the non-believers!

Yup.

Can you tell me which streets so I can stay clear please?

I can't stand the sight of blood.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 13:34:45
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 24 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]439561[/snapback]
Can oblige. Any suggestions?

Well I'll start it

When the trumpet of the Lord shall sound and....
mortonjag 2008-04-24 13:36:30
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 24 2008, 01:35 PM) [snapback]439573[/snapback]
all the diciples gather round....

the mighty irons grind....
mortonjag 2008-04-24 13:38:20
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 24 2008, 01:34 PM) [snapback]439571[/snapback]
Bet that tastes lovely tongue.gif

I bet Paddy only drinks HP sauce .
mortonjag 2008-04-24 13:39:43
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 24 2008, 01:37 PM) [snapback]439576[/snapback]
along with collins nashers at the thought of...

the golden cash can...
mortonjag 2008-04-24 13:42:56
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Apr 24 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]439566[/snapback]
Honestly? no more than a grand. Come to think about it, if someone could they would probably buy me off with 500 quid.
Whatever you say, it is still only a game of football. We can still go and beat Alloa/Brechin/Airdire/Raith to stay in this league.

An honest man-roll up, roll up-every man has his price-any advance on five hundred quid-what's that I hear from the little ginger chap on the stool...... four Euro and a semi detached tent- a fine offer sir -waiting folks...
mortonjag 2008-04-24 13:44:26
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 24 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]439579[/snapback]
which had gone missing from........

Feart Matilda's cupboard..
mortonjag 2008-04-24 13:46:02
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Apr 24 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]439563[/snapback]
I am the official leader of all British Gingers. All bow before me.
I once shared a few drinks with Graeme Souness in Lisbon, when he was Benfica manager, and I was over working.

Souness always was a lazy c*nt!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 13:50:54
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 24 2008, 01:20 PM) [snapback]439558[/snapback]
Anytime jaggy is proved quite wrong I like to laugh...it is - after all - the best medicine smile.gif

Jaggy as you describe Mortonjag is NEVER wrong. Alex knows fine well he's a midfielder and is poor at heading a ball. The boy's not exactly daft-in a squad bursting at the seams with f*cking midfielders and crying out for defenders-OF COURSE it's his 'preferred' position! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 13:56:25
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Apr 24 2008, 01:26 PM) [snapback]439565[/snapback]
I've wondered for a while now how "ill" Mileson was, and whether the decision to withdraw from funding Greetina was His decision, his son's decision or the family's....... anyone shed any light?

He was supposed to have been suffering from a 'brain infection'-that in addition to his celebrated ME, one kidney, etc., etc., etc.

'Brain infections' are extremely uncommon in middle aged men, and normally respond fairly rapidly to treatment. Rarely they have fatal consequences, though I have a sneaky feeling that in Mr Mileson's case a late onset complication may be acute amnesia. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 13:58:42
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Apr 24 2008, 01:55 PM) [snapback]439590[/snapback]
I disagree.

The most sensible reply would be the old 'I don't mind where play as long as I'm in the starting eleven / I'll play wherever my manager asks me' etc. You would only commit yourself to a position if you actually did prefer to play there.

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I think you meant that's what you would do!

As I said-Alex is not daft.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 13:59:53
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Apr 24 2008, 01:55 PM) [snapback]439589[/snapback]
hmmm, nearly two days since this appeared and still mortonjag hasn't risen from the depths to take the bait....... maybe he's no' well.......?? blink.gif

I see you now have two hooks dangling!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 14:01:21
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 24 2008, 01:55 PM) [snapback]439588[/snapback]
This caused massive consternation among.....

the sugar plump fairies, who...
mortonjag 2008-04-24 14:03:23
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 24 2008, 01:57 PM) [snapback]439592[/snapback]
Would take a good few grand to tempt me mate. Prob around 10k or so. Enough to pay off my loans, credit card, and have a few pennies left for a family holiday.

Good gracious folks that's more than generous from wee G-it'll take a big chap to better that one-where are you Sir..
mortonjag 2008-04-24 14:04:48
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Apr 24 2008, 02:02 PM) [snapback]439596[/snapback]
I think you mean you think Alex's a midfielder, poor at heading and that he's only saying he prefers to play in defence to stay in the team.

I know!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 14:06:44
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Apr 24 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]439599[/snapback]
oh, THIS one's had fatal consequences all right - Gretna's deid!! tongue.gif

Apparently not-it appears to be moribund in perpetuity-or at least until the SPL and Administrator finally go giggling all the way to the bank.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 14:11:18
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Apr 24 2008, 02:09 PM) [snapback]439602[/snapback]
What is it you know?

What do you think-I DID leave a pink clue!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 14:24:38
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 24 2008, 02:20 PM) [snapback]439605[/snapback]
why bother? the man's a pompous know-it-all.

Preferable to being a pompous know f*ck all. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 14:27:20
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Apr 24 2008, 02:24 PM) [snapback]439608[/snapback]
I'd rather they were moribund in perpetuity than moribund in Division One.......

Once the Administrator and SPL have finished having their wicked way at the creditors' expense, I expect them to shrivel up and die.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 14:28:28
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 24 2008, 02:25 PM) [snapback]439610[/snapback]
hilarious.

Glad to have pleased you.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 14:30:28
QUOTE(centralTON @ Apr 24 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]439614[/snapback]
His chest? tongue.gif

casket?
mortonjag 2008-04-24 14:35:02
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Apr 24 2008, 02:31 PM) [snapback]439617[/snapback]
Gretna, or the SelfProtectionLeague? Would it be too much too hope for both??

If only all three!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 14:46:26
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Apr 24 2008, 02:43 PM) [snapback]439620[/snapback]
we ain't that lucky....... after World War Three there will only be two forms of life remaining on the Earth: insects, and administrators - and you'll have to look pretty closely to see which is which.......

You talk from experience I sense! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 16:22:01
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 24 2008, 03:14 PM) [snapback]439628[/snapback]
stir the caramel in Fortress Matilda. They thought that....

fud G Wudgee had been in charge, but...
mortonjag 2008-04-24 16:25:28
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Apr 24 2008, 02:48 PM) [snapback]439622[/snapback]
hmmm- hands or mouth?? Actually, PLEASE don't answer - I'm sorry I arsked.......

...he gets his rocks off listening to the neighbours shagging-haven't you been reading? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 16:27:08
QUOTE(stuart @ Apr 24 2008, 12:14 AM) [snapback]439356[/snapback]
McLaren in some sort of coaching capacity? Where he should be setting a good example? And displaying leadership qualities?

I couldn't think of anyone worse over the past few seasons to fill a role like this.

JM
mortonjag 2008-04-24 16:29:15
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Apr 24 2008, 02:54 PM) [snapback]439624[/snapback]
only as a 'Ton fan - Sh*ggie Sc*tt mad.gif was one of the former, and drove us into the hands of the latter.......

I'm disappointed-I was expecting some story about your wife and 5 llamas having been sold to pay the gas bill.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 16:31:16
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Apr 24 2008, 02:57 PM) [snapback]439625[/snapback]
I don't have two hooks - I had a wee touch o' Parkinson's when I hit "send"....... (Parkinson didn't mind a bit, by the way!!)

FFS ANOTHER bloody Shoogly! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 16:33:27
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Apr 24 2008, 04:14 PM) [snapback]439642[/snapback]
nah...just a boaby suck from him...no present

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mortonjag 2008-04-24 17:23:31
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 24 2008, 04:46 PM) [snapback]439656[/snapback]
Crawford then poked his head out from...

a burst sugar bag, screaming....
mortonjag 2008-04-24 17:27:12
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Apr 24 2008, 04:43 PM) [snapback]439655[/snapback]
aye, that's me - a wee Rae o' sunshine.......

Jesus wants me for a sunbeam!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 17:29:07
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Apr 24 2008, 04:47 PM) [snapback]439657[/snapback]
shame llamas don't have humps - missin' out on using a very obvious joke because of it

And it'll take more than his wife and his llamas for Brooksie boy to pay off Gretna's bills.......

...a lot of folk are going to have to like it or hump it.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 17:29:46
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 24 2008, 04:48 PM) [snapback]439658[/snapback]
laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-24 17:31:41
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Apr 24 2008, 04:53 PM) [snapback]439660[/snapback]
durrrty dog right enough then. Draw the line at that meself (apart from happily listening to Street Mirren getting humped!) laugh.gif

Is St Mirren still at it-I thought he died of AIDS years ago.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 17:35:03
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Apr 23 2008, 06:52 PM) [snapback]439176[/snapback]
He's that Jap that plays for Celtic, isn't he?

Is that not Minnehaha?

Kudos is the big Romanian goalie at Stranraer.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 17:36:54
QUOTE(Section C @ Apr 24 2008, 05:05 PM) [snapback]439662[/snapback]
I'm a new poster but have watched this site for a long time. I had lunch with two Thistle directors a few weeks ago and was impressed by their attitude and approach to things at Firhill. A real focus on getting bums on seats and establishing a community club. I take my 2 kids to Morton most weeks and have become a bit hacked off by the lack of interest in promoting the club to youngsters and families. As for the lack of youth playing structure.....even worse.

Good luck to PTFC, they have an even harder time competing with the OF than we do. I am very appreciative of the Raes and all they've done for the Ton but I can't help but feel that its time for a fresh approach behind the scenes from a commercial point of view. We need to grow our fan base and and kids are the only real source.

I couldn't have put is more discreetly in 1000 years! Bravo! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 17:43:07 I won't be shedding any tears if Kevin moves to pastures new. We need to introduce some proper wing play if we're going to increase our options, and at the moment we don't have a single player who can consistently put over a decent cross.

Kevin's value to me was always that he made up for his deficiencies going forward by his superb work rate and 'mopping up', but we've already beefed up our midfield with McGuffie and Jenkins, and hopefully Pantaloons will stay. Probably best for his career if he moves elsewhere now.

mortonjag 2008-04-24 17:44:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 24 2008, 05:42 PM) [snapback]439684[/snapback]
I don't think flight_ton knows it is a lassie he made the comment to, hence I found it amusing.

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mortonjag 2008-04-24 17:46:51
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 24 2008, 05:29 PM) [snapback]439671[/snapback]
it wisnae me, it was the oompaloompas that made me....

that's why I don't look like ma faither-anyway...
mortonjag 2008-04-24 17:50:05
QUOTE(Edinton @ Apr 24 2008, 05:32 PM) [snapback]439676[/snapback]
Maybe we should have an end of season/playoffs cyber-swally, everyone can meet up and clear the air in person?

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Mortonjag would find some excuse to bottle out at the last minute! s***ebag.

QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 24 2008, 05:39 PM) [snapback]439683[/snapback]
Damn, I have been knocked off then? sad.gif

You're still top of the local list Weegie! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 18:00:35
QUOTE(johnston @ Apr 24 2008, 05:43 PM) [snapback]439686[/snapback]
Anyways, the mince wiz great. I got that Fiver and aunt Jean's doin' fine.
In AA speak, Midtons is 'recovering'. One day at a time 'n' all that.

In my experience there's nothing worse than a recovering minceoholic-it's 'one day at a time-stay away from butchers' shops and school dinner halls-close your eyes when nancy boys m*nce up to you, and if anybody mentions doughballs just think hard about The Midden'.

All day long they preach to you about their Higher Powers and sponsors and big books and things, and when you're not looking they're popping that bloody minced Quorn, and feeling all self righteous!

Give me a recovering alky any day.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 18:03:50
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Apr 24 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]439692[/snapback]
.......and at least it looks like that cameltoe Rowan Alexander will have to like it or hump it, he's no' gettin his £800,000.......

The minute Rowan and Pony Tail had their 'lovers' tiff' Gretna began to fall apart.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 18:04:47
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Apr 24 2008, 05:51 PM) [snapback]439694[/snapback]
take him, Jesus, ffs take him.......

laugh.gif You are very rude.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 18:06:07
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 24 2008, 05:46 PM) [snapback]439689[/snapback]
It's clear you don't like him from this post simply because you never got a nickname for him wink.gif

I was being polite about the 'blinkered greyhound'.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 18:14:02
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Apr 24 2008, 06:11 PM) [snapback]439705[/snapback]
And no doubt a few others wink.gif

McInally's midfield midgets are about to be dispersed and replaced by Irons' impenetrable icemen!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 18:15:50
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Apr 24 2008, 06:01 PM) [snapback]439699[/snapback]
How about a nice hotel?

A hostel-aye that would suit the cooncil fine.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 18:21:35 Jenkins on the bench again?
mortonjag 2008-04-24 18:49:17 I know that Mileson bloke's got you watching the pennies, but you could always get a black hack! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 18:51:49
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Apr 24 2008, 06:48 PM) [snapback]439710[/snapback]
Why change a 'winning' team?

I agree in principle, but if I were to make a single change from last week I'd have Jenkins on from the start if he's fully fit, as I don't believe it's going to be a day for Piehutt's silky flowing football!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 19:04:37
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Apr 24 2008, 03:42 PM) [snapback]439635[/snapback]
The Willowman will still be on a train

Oh, wait a minute, i thought you said flashers tongue.gif

Strip the willow is a country or barn dance. It has variations depending upon whether it is being performed as a movement in a larger dance or a complete dance in itself. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 19:12:06
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Apr 24 2008, 07:06 PM) [snapback]439722[/snapback]
There has to be a seperation between Morton and Clyde so surely those are the results that matter most in that instance? huh.gif

I think that's OK in theory but there's something about it makes me uncomfortable-say for example there had been a daft situation like the Forfar one where the SFL had refused to postpone a match when half the squad was unwell, and the other side had beaten them by one goal and went through on that basis!

I guess it's got to be a play off over two games.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 21:54:30
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 24 2008, 09:49 PM) [snapback]439780[/snapback]
"Specialists" wanted me to go into primary school a year early but my parents refused it.

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mortonjag 2008-04-25 06:23:20
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 24 2008, 09:57 PM) [snapback]439792[/snapback]
Laydee

Whatever smile.gif

Lord and Lady Bobby Sucher!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 06:32:07
QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Apr 25 2008, 12:04 AM) [snapback]439845[/snapback]
in a paper during the week
i read that the stand were we have been normally situated during the last few games
is that it holds just over the 2000 mark

lost of people will go by train, others by car & bus also
can see us bringing a crowd of around 2500-3000 on saturday

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I just don't understand where all this optimism's coming from-our home crowds recently haven't even been reaching 2500 when three hundred or more away supporters have turned up, and as our Chairman has pointed out correctedly the home support has been poorish.

I'll be absolutely thrilled if we take along 3000-I'm totally convinced we have this result in the bag- but where the f*ck are they coming from, who are they, and why the sudden interest? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 06:34:01
QUOTE(Toby @ Apr 25 2008, 06:25 AM) [snapback]439872[/snapback]
I'm not drinking.

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Good chap-I'll be driving so none for me!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 06:44:07
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Apr 25 2008, 06:14 AM) [snapback]439870[/snapback]
guaranteed chris plays the best game ever for us come saturday its made forhim ad he will more than likely score...............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................awaiting the snipers on that one but trust me wink.gif wink.gif wink.gif wink.gif leaving on a eal high

Fine-as suggested then, let the muckers soften the Jags up for an hour of nae nonsense hard stuff scoring seven in the process including a sizzling forty foot volley from Finlayson, a bicycle kick by Big Stu, and four successful penalties from LEAFY.

After that Midge can have his going away hat trick playing the purest silkiest and most flowing football we've ever seen since we flattered to deceive for 90 minutes this time last year at Kirkcaldy! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 06:49:29
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Apr 24 2008, 10:54 PM) [snapback]439814[/snapback]
a months wage.....£1200....pay off my holiday to egypt

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Maybe you should have taken the free Mileson course in pyramid selling of llama burgers! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 06:51:32
QUOTE(C B @ Apr 24 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]439802[/snapback]
Poor defenceless old man with a Krav Maga trained Monkey for a bodyguard !

Fingz the hard man-Munx is actually a bit of a poosy like his dad!

QUOTE(loyal lass @ Apr 24 2008, 11:26 PM) [snapback]439827[/snapback]
Oh My God! Whit a bunch of sapsy willies. Listen to yourselves rolleyes.gif

They sound a bit of a let down LL.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 06:56:36
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 24 2008, 11:28 PM) [snapback]439829[/snapback]
I've eaten a weetabix covered in butter!

....before swimming to Kilcreggan in the nude and November.


Mind you you'd have been healthier on all bran and olive spread.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 06:58:56
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 25 2008, 12:09 AM) [snapback]439849[/snapback]
Nae poll!

Nae Poll is a brunette.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 07:07:23 Ratarse-I'm gobsmacked-in one week you manage to become a father and the son of a gentleman.

You have gone up 119.897% in my opinion.

Now about thae in laws-watch them VERY carefully-my daughter could well have become a Ton lass until she met that slanty eyed forked tongued little snake lovely man Vinny who now has her hanging on Strachans every keech! mad.gif

Hope the wee DJ grows up into a big strong independent minded boy! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 07:12:15

Alex Salmond faced fresh attacks over his handling of Donald Trump's £1bn golf resort plans yesterday, with Labour accusing him of bowing down to wealthy investors.

Labour claimed that Mr Salmond acted at the behest of the billionaire during the controversial handling of the application, MSPs heard.

Labour MSP Duncan McNeil told parliament: "Cynics might say: Trump said jump, the First Minister of Scotland said how high?'."

The debate followed a report by a Holyrood committee, chaired by Mr McNeil, which branded Mr Salmond's involvement in the affair "cavalier".
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A public inquiry has been set up into the application to develop Menie Estate, Aberdeenshire, after the plans were called in by Scottish ministers.

SNP MSP Alex Neil said the committee report was "blown up nonsense" and a "Unionist plot" to undermine the SNP administration.

He claimed that members of the public regarded the report and debate as "spurious" and added: "The Unionist majority in this committee is what needs to be called into question. These are the people that put an inquiry into child poverty in Scotland way behind this spurious inquiry into this affair."

For the Tories, Mary Scanlon said if it was Labour, Liberal or the Conservatives who were allegedly indulging, manipulating and interfering the planning process, the SNP would be first in the queue for at the very least a committee inquiry and a report to parliament.

Meanwhile, Martin Ford, who lost his chairmanship of the infrastructure services committee of Aberdeenshire Council after using his casting vote on November 29 to reject the plan, has lost another round of the battle against the proposal.

On December 12 the council agreed to support the application, and with a public local inquiry now planned for June officials suggested that for clarification the council should reaffirm its position as agreed on that date.

Mr Ford moved an amendment that it should reaffirm its decision of November 29. His motion was defeated by 56 votes to five.




Dumb c*nt McNeill finally hears about the Trump affair! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 07:26:46 And tomorrow we're staying up BECAUSE of the manager. Davie Irons confirmed as guest on 'Beyond the SPL' that his remit was to save Morton from relegation, and if ever a nag heading for the knacker's yard has been transformed into the 'form horse' it's happened at Cappielow in the last couple of months. At first I was apprehensive-the DI/DC combo is inexperienced, and the results weren't coming but we've acquitted ourselves increasingly well against Queens, Dundee, St Johnstone, and Dunfermline, and belief is high. Add to that the fact that Thistle have little to play for and Corky will have an eye on next season-indeed the Thistle directors must SURELY prefer Ton crowds to that pathetic caravan of gypsies from -what's it called?

So it's in the bag folks, and Alan Moore has shown he intends to finish with a flourish too!

This season we're staying up BECAUSE of our manager.


WELL DONE DAVIE IRONS!


Edit: I just checked the on line odds and William Hill currently have us as favourites! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 07:28:34
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 25 2008, 07:22 AM) [snapback]439883[/snapback]
If they are so against the Trump application why don't they oppose it in Parliament ?

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Another day-another attack on politicians Spurtle-you missed that bit! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 08:07:13
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 25 2008, 07:40 AM) [snapback]439887[/snapback]
It's alright, you can attack that w*nker McNeil to you're hearts content ! laugh.gif

He has a knob? unsure.gif

Oh I see what you mean! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 08:09:40
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 25 2008, 08:06 AM) [snapback]439890[/snapback]
I should have known not to expect an apology from one of today's youth, I would have had you birched just for being wrong.

I'd birch them all just for arguing in the first place! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 08:38:21
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 25 2008, 08:14 AM) [snapback]439893[/snapback]
I know it's never going to be accurate but I tend to gauge our away support on the level of interested we have on our buses and it's normally not far off the mark.
We are taking 4 buses to Firhill which is 4 times our normal numbers, I think there is a possibility the Spinny is taking 3 buses which is 3 times their normal numbers, the MSC have an extra bus and the Norseman have reinstated their bus and I'm not sure about the rest, giving this game is at Firhill and the last game of the season a lot of our fans opt to go by train and make a day of it up the city, giving the importance of this game I think we will have around 2500 at Firhill but won't be surprised if there is considerably more.

Just my opinion

An informed opinion and very interesting indeed, which leads me to ask this question. If the potential support is so near the surface that we can drag-say-three thousand to Firhill for a do or die relegation battle-WHAT could we be pulling into Cappielow in the First Division if we were challenging for promotion and playing attractive attacking football.

I'm not going to be too hard on the Chairman the day before this historic lifeline is given to him, but he must now OPEN HIS EYES to reality, and if he hasn't got what is required, please be honest, and encourage some inward investment. Greenock Morton should ALWAYS have been upsides the Kilmarnocks, Falkirks, St. Johnstones, and Motherwells of Scottish football.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 08:39:27
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Apr 25 2008, 08:28 AM) [snapback]439894[/snapback]
No you wouldn't! unsure.gif

Bend over!


WALLOP-WALLOP- WALLOP.

That'll learn you-or next time it'll be SIX. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 08:40:39
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 25 2008, 08:03 AM) [snapback]439888[/snapback]
I don't drink. wink.gif

Dehydration will soon set in!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 08:52:50 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment? Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they? Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature? And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith? Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?

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mortonjag 2008-04-25 08:54:46
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 25 2008, 08:47 AM) [snapback]439900[/snapback]
Congrats to yourself and the missus Rasta, I hope the wee lads Grandpa has taken a course on how to put on these new disposable nappies.

They're actually called incontinence pads Mr midTONs.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 09:19:20
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Apr 25 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]439912[/snapback]
I fully agree with the sentiment but you just should not include Kilmarnock in your group as they have always been a bigger club than us with a huge catchment. Kilmarnock itself is no bigger than Greenock but it is surrounded by dozens of wee and not so wee (Irvine?) towns so that their potential catchment is around 250-300,000 compared to Inverclyde's 100,000. They've been league champions. They've won far more than us and been far more consistently in the top league. Substitute Caley Thistle in your list and thats a better and more valid comparison.

As for Dougie and investment, yes it is required in all sorts of ways but prioritising them should see a Hamilton type youth structure at the top of the list. The lack of investment though is not just down to Dougie as the real culprits are the board who would not move with the times in the seventies and particularly in the 80's when we had a team to keep us in the SPL. Dougie has put more than most (or even anyone?) into the club in his time and that's undeniable. The only argument is whether it has gone into the right areas!

I'm afraid we're just going to have to disagree on the Kilmarnock issue. Not only does Ayrshire still have a disproportionate loyalty to Junior football, but Ayr United compete for crowds, and have themselves been relatively big in the past.

I believe you possibly underestimate the pulling power from the Cowal peninsula which has no football club to talk of, and we also draw from well into Ayrshire in all directions,and VERY heavily from parts of Renfrewshire.

I've worked in Kilmarnock and discussed this very topic with one of the local GP's who attends at Rugby Park, and he (grudgingly) accepts that we are potentially a bigger club.

Anyhow-there's only one way to resolve the dispute! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 09:24:47
QUOTE(Yoda @ Apr 25 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]439910[/snapback]
I am getting worried about you - amnesia, anorexia, naturalism and a short arse with suicidal tendancies? Is there something you're not telling us Doctor Jag?




Go back to curing ganglians with it laugh.gif



Many many secrets will accompany Mortonjag to his grave! wink.gif


QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Apr 25 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]439911[/snapback]
You've got me MJ. I'm sitting in front of this computer until a bacon and egg sarnie appears and a steaming hot mug of tea. I was about to do it myself but there's no need now! wink.gif


'Faith without works is dead' I'm afraid. Ask Paul. wink.gif


QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 25 2008, 09:13 AM) [snapback]439915[/snapback]
Go forth and multiply wink.gif

...and instead he came fifth and she had gone!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 09:41:45
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 25 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]439921[/snapback]
Ethical in what way? unsure.gif

Do you mean environmentally? What about the detergents used to wash them? Ha ha.

PS - Many heart felt congratulations to the proud parents and grandparents.


Very true totie toes-that debate rages on


Whether 'tis nobler on behind to suffer
The stings and furrows of outdated cotton,
Or to take
Huggies against a sea of dribbles,
And by disposing end them?
mortonjag 2008-04-25 09:44:28
QUOTE(rex manning @ Apr 25 2008, 09:22 AM) [snapback]439919[/snapback]
I'd still play him. Best player this year, (hopefully) last game for the club, play him.

If you want Jenkins in then drop McGuffie. Although i think in the last few weeks he's found his feet.


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mortonjag 2008-04-25 09:46:58
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Apr 25 2008, 09:44 AM) [snapback]439925[/snapback]
This thread read like an old script from Frasier rolleyes.gif

Much closer to the mark than you think perhaps! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 09:49:11 I'll tell you who's NOT king of the ex-gingers-Starchy McPherson.

How that eejit still gets to head up an outside broadcasting show beggars belief.


Bring back Arfur.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 09:53:44
QUOTE(rex manning @ Apr 25 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]439932[/snapback]
That monkey from the Jungle book.

He's not a REAL monkey-so he doesn't really count!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 09:54:38
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Apr 25 2008, 09:52 AM) [snapback]439933[/snapback]
Aye there it is....the get oot clause! I want ma bacon sarnie and I'm naw leavin' tae I get it! laugh.gif

Sorry mate-that's the Bible for you!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 09:55:59
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Apr 25 2008, 09:49 AM) [snapback]439931[/snapback]
You surprise me gentlemen! Are you telling me I've been given a bum steer?

http://www.ecover.com/gb/en/

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If God had meant babies to wear nappies they'd be born with one on.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:07:31
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Apr 25 2008, 10:00 AM) [snapback]439938[/snapback]
Not quite Piaget smile.gif

Talking of which I've been experimenting with monkeys and rows of Millions-the paper won't be out till the summer but there's some really interesting stuff!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:09:31
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Apr 25 2008, 10:02 AM) [snapback]439940[/snapback]
Here's one of young Puggsy from a few years ago. I think you'll agree he'll take some beating!

[attachment=3952:hairbaby..._468x526.jpg]

He certainly will if I get hold of the cheeky wee brat! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:11:34
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Apr 25 2008, 10:08 AM) [snapback]439948[/snapback]
Oooops unsure.gif

The larger bus companies will train up suitable applicants too!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:12:40
QUOTE(princessTON @ Apr 25 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]439953[/snapback]
agreed! biggrin.gif

Steven Aitken has to be a good contender!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:17:46
Mortonjag is right behind you!




but don't let that distract you lads-stay focussed!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:19:41
QUOTE(princessTON @ Apr 25 2008, 10:13 AM) [snapback]439958[/snapback]
aye but hes an ugly ginger tongue.gif

There is ANOTHER sort? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:21:05
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Apr 25 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]439963[/snapback]
Congratulations.

My wee boys name is also Dylan. Be prepared for everyone asking you whether or not he's named after Bob Dylan.

Sean Dillon?
mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:24:29
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 25 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]439965[/snapback]
Thats a lot of responsibility to place on any monkey! I mean is it up to it? I for one would take no pleasure to hear of your demise.

I have supreme faith in my little simian friend-he has seen me through all my piles and dribulations, and will dispose of my effects in a seemly fashion.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:26:49
QUOTE(princessTON @ Apr 25 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]439972[/snapback]
jason has dashing good looks! ohmy.gif dont diss jason! steven aitken is ugly as sin!

Mortonjag's hair was auburn when he was in his prime-does that count?
mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:28:54
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Apr 25 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]439978[/snapback]
Aye all you have to do is get a target tattooed on your fizzog! laugh.gif

Is it THAT bad? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:31:42
QUOTE(princessTON @ Apr 25 2008, 10:29 AM) [snapback]439982[/snapback]
no because jason is a nice looking ginger tongue.gif

No you misunderstand-Mortonjag was always an ugly bugger-does auburn count as ginger?

Let's face it, ginger IS an auburn colour unlike that disgusting carroty shade so often inaccurately described as the former!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:43:04
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Apr 25 2008, 10:29 AM) [snapback]439983[/snapback]
Yeah I think so. That's usually the follow up question to is he named after Bob Dylan - Dylan Thomas then?

Or after the original Dylan Ail Don of Welsh mythology after whom the poet was named?

mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:46:05
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 25 2008, 10:32 AM) [snapback]439985[/snapback]
You get beaten up enough on this site dont give everybody another stick to club you with! laugh.gif tongue.gif

Ach-the more the merrier!

QUOTE(princessTON @ Apr 25 2008, 10:32 AM) [snapback]439986[/snapback]
well yeah i suppose it does biggrin.gif

I prefer to describe Aitken and Walker type heads as 'carrot tops'!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:49:41
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 25 2008, 10:36 AM) [snapback]439988[/snapback]
I have supreme faith in my little simian friend-he has seen me through all my piles and dribulations, and will dispose of my effects in a seemly fashion.
[/quote

Well thats one clever little monkey then!

He smiled over from the Financial Times when I told him.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:55:57
QUOTE(nach0king @ Apr 25 2008, 10:24 AM) [snapback]439971[/snapback]
Have you seen this list btw? I assume you have:

http://www.news-and-star.co.uk/1.94291

Crime Stoppers Scotland £450.00, which I'd suggest doesn't deserve payment!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:58:15
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 25 2008, 10:54 AM) [snapback]439995[/snapback]
A smear of sudocrem at each change works wonders.

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The dark secrets of the en suite chez Bam!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:59:41
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 25 2008, 10:42 AM) [snapback]439989[/snapback]
Not another Clinton please , think of the White House interms! laugh.gif

I hope Obama will spare us of Hillary "the Joker" Clinton

Aye thae effin' Clintons couldny run a caird shop.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 12:18:16
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 25 2008, 11:19 AM) [snapback]440004[/snapback]
So he is not a Scotsman reader like me!

PS can he do the crossword?

He helps his Dad with the Herald crossword-but only when the former gets stuck!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 12:21:07
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Apr 25 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]440015[/snapback]
Surely this is more of a Puggsy...

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDThat's clearly Lee Robinson!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 12:23:50
QUOTE(edd @ Apr 25 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]440002[/snapback]
shouldn't that be "who don't deserve payment"?

It IS now-thank goodness for proper Universities! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 12:29:57
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Apr 25 2008, 12:18 PM) [snapback]440035[/snapback]
A grand will do, in fact probably less, it's only a game.

Very true-and every man indeed has his price. I've already decided that since I regard myself as financially comfortable, it would actually take a great deal of money-bear in mind I'm an oldie, and I want progress in my lifetime, so being the principled chap I am, I've set the figure at £100, 000,000.

I'm sure that with that kind of cash, I could buy the club over and get it to the SPL before I shake off the mortal coil.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 12:32:44
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Apr 24 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]439741[/snapback]
'Defence agent Taco Nolf said' - Surely a comedy wind up name laugh.gif

Airline pilot.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 12:35:04
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 25 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]440041[/snapback]
Shouldn't it be "which" or "that"? Who is a personal pronoun, and Crimestoppers is/are an organisation, business or similar entity.

Thank goodness for VERY proper Universities! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 13:04:59
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 25 2008, 01:00 PM) [snapback]440050[/snapback]
he's got over 20% of all today's posts. i'm not reading them all but i'm willing to bet that 95% of those are vacuous and boring.

What a fulsome and stimulating comment.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 13:05:43
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 25 2008, 12:58 PM) [snapback]440049[/snapback]
this is an internet messageboard - the title of this thread should be 'i could of been a contender'.

i got kicked out of tertiary education. it's no big deal now, although it as pretty bad at the time. nothing wrong with being a loser in a society that worships rapacious greed and vacuous celebs.

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mortonjag 2008-04-25 13:09:07
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 25 2008, 01:07 PM) [snapback]440054[/snapback]
i'd rather be a loser than a p***k like your good self.

Hmm-loser and liar it seems.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 13:11:01
QUOTE(longboat @ Apr 25 2008, 01:07 PM) [snapback]440055[/snapback]
Notice there is only one player listed as a creditor (James Grady). Gretna breached the contracts of around 20 players by failing to pay them and offering them games. The administrator admitted that they had breached their contracts, so I assume there is additional amounts to be totted up on behalf of the players once their claims go in. Our Paartalu would be amongst that lot.

I believe the date for lodging claims has already passed.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 13:20:35
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 25 2008, 01:11 PM) [snapback]440058[/snapback]
Determining of you're a 'loser' or a 'success' is down to the individual. In our society sadly that tends to be determined by how wealthy you are.

Personally I would define success not in terms of wealth but in terms of happiness and contentment. Of course being wealthy may help to make you happy but it shouldn't in itself a pre-requisite and it's certainly not a guarantee.

So the bottom line is, if you're happy within yourself, you're not a loser irrespective of what you've done in the past or what you do now.

Spot on mon petit ami-the sad fact though, is that some folk seem to spend their miserable existences listening to others shagging while half anaesthetised by inhalation of the odours from sweaty trainers and the effects of other unspecified agents.

I'm not sure about sweaty trainers, but paranoia is certainly a side effect of hash.

Mortonjag could have many years ago become a world renowned haematologist but for a quirk of fate-in that respect he may be a 'loser' but he's perfectly content. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 15:48:51
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 25 2008, 01:38 PM) [snapback]440067[/snapback]
[center][/center]Warning to all going to Firhill on Saturday.

[left][/left]Watch out for the one they call WeegieTon, for he will be extremely toxic tomorrow. He is attending a curry night, tonight and will be full of Jalfriezi and Dopiazi (SP). People in the vacinity of him may be overcome by the smell tomorrow. Weegie apologises in advance for this and hopes that it will not spoil your enjoyment of the game. laugh.gif

By their deeds shall ye know them!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 16:04:09
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 25 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]440063[/snapback]
i was stoned out y nut for a good portion of the nineties as well. that was f***ing great and all.

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the quirk of fate being that you're an insufferable arsehole with a raging walter mitty complex?


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QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 25 2008, 01:27 PM) [snapback]440064[/snapback]
Wouldn't say I am a loser. There's plenty of things i would have liked to do but was either not talented enough or got the breaks required. Such is life. I always try to look at life positively. I work full time, I am healthy, have a lovely wife and a great son. Have a nice house and a decent car. I have a good family behind me and plenty of decent friends. In many respects I am extremely wealthy.


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QUOTE(rex manning @ Apr 25 2008, 01:34 PM) [snapback]440066[/snapback]
OK, take loser out of the equation. If i hadn't been kicked out I would be doing something completely different to what i'm doing right now. Looking back it was a big event which changed the course of my future immensely. Kinda like Ace Rimmer. I was just thinking how my life would have been right now if i hadn't been escorted off the premises of Aberdeen Uni.

Basically I was looking for a "I was going to be a professional golfer until a giraffe stood on my hand" kinda thread
. Although now you've made me realise how uncontent and unhappy i am i may infact need to kill myself.

Randy Floyd your in need of an serious attitude adjustment young man.

I was about to achieve the pinnacle of perfection when I started to post on a football forum.


QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 25 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]440069[/snapback]
smile.gif the older you get, the more rules they gonna try get you to follow. you just gotta keep livin, man. L I V I N.

oh aye, i'd have been an archaeologist if i hadn't started going out with someone in edinburgh who wasn't worth it halfway through my first year at southampton uni. actually, that's probably not true. i'd have got an archaeology degree and spent some time unemployed before doing the same s*** i ended up doing anyway.

it's been a laugh, though. eventually


Kicked our of archeology at Southampton has to rank way high up the list of supreme under achievements! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif



QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Apr 25 2008, 02:59 PM) [snapback]440081[/snapback]
I think the only person in Life tha can judge your success is yourself

Everyone has different markers for success
I dont think wealth or success in your career is a main factor . Having Family & Friends and Happiness is the main thing for me

Im lucky to be doing a job I love that has a gr8 salary & Benifits . If I had to I would do the same Job for less money because I love doing it (Dont tell my bosses that tho Im due a pay rise lol). I have quit several jobs in the past that paid well because I didnt enjoy them .

I still aim to own my own club in the next 3 years and then retire @ 40 (We can Dream)

That's not always true Scott-some people literally kill themselves by setting their sights too high-believe it or not I listen to what others say nowadays infinitely more than when I was in my teens and twenties.

Manky's right about materialism-no harm in it if it GENUINELY makes you happy, but my experience is that worldly goods are rarely enough on their own.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 16:09:32
QUOTE(Yoda @ Apr 25 2008, 02:53 PM) [snapback]440079[/snapback]

Blind date with 'the Big Yin'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 16:12:27
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 25 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]440001[/snapback]
Aye thae effin' Clintons couldny run a caird shop.
[/quote

Good grief we have agreed again ! this is serious! laugh.gif



Fret not-it won't last! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 16:13:12
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Apr 25 2008, 04:08 PM) [snapback]440101[/snapback]
God's sake you'll have them all looking over their shoulders all the time!!

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mortonjag 2008-04-25 16:17:30
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Apr 25 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]440095[/snapback]
There is no cut off for lodging claims in any insolvency process except where a dividend is announced where you have have your claim in 6 weeks before the distribution. Other than that you can lodge a claim at any time.

I did'nt see anything that looked like Alibi's £90k + in the list nor did I see anything for Messrs Irons and Collins!

Ah I may have been mixing things up-I forgot that Gretna are still trading, and not yet in sequestration!

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Alibi's is listed OK but it only shows as about a third of his £90k
mortonjag 2008-04-25 16:21:29
QUOTE(calton @ Apr 25 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]440100[/snapback]
I wonder what the SFL would say if the game was called off tomorrow at Firhill due to excessive rainfall and the game at Forthbank took place?

Given that its chucking it down now and the forecast for tomorrow is the same in the central belt, it's entirely possible, especially with the state of the pitch at Firhill.

Would that be to Morton's advantage because then they would know exactly what they had to do?

If we got enough notice we should all head straight to Broadwood and give the Binos their biggest lift all season! Clyde just wouldn't know what had hit them!

Certainly what I will be doing IF necessary.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 16:27:47
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 25 2008, 04:14 PM) [snapback]440109[/snapback]
i wasn't kicked out of southampton, which, by the way, was and is probably a better university than glasgow.

anyway, i quite like being an underachiever. i try to avoid overachievers, they tend to be crap company.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Not everybody rates Universities on their Archeology faculties! wink.gif

BTW what is your definition of an 'overachiever'?

Jordan springs to mind-if that's the sort of thing you mean, they do tend to be largely artificial.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 16:33:19
QUOTE(tontastic @ Apr 25 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]440123[/snapback]
Why do you do what you do?

Coming from a gentleman with all that surveillance equipment, I feel distinctly uncomfortable! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 16:36:08
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 25 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]440106[/snapback]
Oh glory be to great god that is Shanks. (His cistern is nice to wink.gif )

Barrhead has much to be grateful for!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 17:46:36
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 25 2008, 04:49 PM) [snapback]440135[/snapback]
no, but the tes does, and southampton is top 4 in the uk.

How did I know you were going to say that! laugh.gif



it's a negative term for me. when i hear that word i think of solicitors, doctors, airline pilots and other assorted pompous bores. obviously i would be pleased to have bought someone like richard feynman a pint, but i wouldn't call people like him overachievers. more like fine examples of humanity or something equally catchy.



How did I know you were going to say that! laugh.gif

rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 17:47:47
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Apr 25 2008, 04:42 PM) [snapback]440130[/snapback]
..to me
I wish I knew
If I knew how you did it to me
I'd do it to you.

..but I haven't a clue! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 17:49:57
QUOTE(tontastic @ Apr 25 2008, 04:58 PM) [snapback]440140[/snapback]
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? ... those noble lies work every time ...

Very wise-cave ides martias Caesar an a' that!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 17:54:37 The game is already won-we must celebrate from the kick off! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 17:57:34
QUOTE(edd @ Apr 25 2008, 05:53 PM) [snapback]440164[/snapback]
is the k850i any good? i'm thinking about getting one but have read mixed reviews ...

My little Nokia on the Tesco p.a.y.g network cost me £20 with £10 of free air time chucked in and it never lets me down! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 18:04:06
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 25 2008, 05:58 PM) [snapback]440170[/snapback]
because I'm an alcoholic

That's a very interesting statement WDE.

If you became a recovering alcoholic you would behave differently then!


Seriously--I counsel youngsters with addictive (mainly drugs) problems on a voluntary basis.

WHY?

I kind of drifted into it after I had to retire-I already had counselling qualifications, and mental health issues of all kinds are very close to my heart.

I don't know if I really do much good or not, but I seem to be appreciated at least somewhere! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 18:06:16
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 25 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]440175[/snapback]
Thanks, if I get in touch it will be after the wedding.

I'd be delighted to listen.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 18:07:36 Boris Becker?
mortonjag 2008-04-25 18:49:57 No ifs and buts for this one-the game is WON-I'm fed up with a shower of jellyfish for supporters-we NEED a wee bit of arrogance and belief tomorrow. All bloody season the Cowshed has waited and waited and only ever managed to respond AFTER we've done the business.

Tomorrow will be different! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 18:54:09
QUOTE(centralTON @ Apr 25 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]440194[/snapback]
Let's not take anything for granted and get right behind the team.
Remember, we could win and, depending on the Clyde v Stirling score, still end up in the play-offs.
This could also mean another 6 games i.e,
2 v Clyde ( if they finish 1 goal better than us )
2 v Alloa / Peterhead / Brechin ( all 3 can still finish 4th )
2 v winners of Raith v Airdrie.

Mon e' 'Ton.

Trust the Jag-I told you last week we'd be in eighth spot after the Pars game-this is no time for JMitis-BELIEVE! wink.gif Ton to win-Clyde to draw.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 21:24:29
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Apr 25 2008, 06:55 PM) [snapback]440197[/snapback]
Mortonjag told us we would beat Dundee too.

It was a moral victory! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 21:26:17
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 25 2008, 07:55 PM) [snapback]440225[/snapback]
i think dougie rae deserves a lot of credit for the turnround - after all, if he's responsible for the downside he's also responsible for the upside laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-25 21:29:55
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 25 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]440202[/snapback]
They have only included my first invoice - it's a mistake by the administrators and has now been drawn to their attention. And if they don't have it included, I will draw their attention to it on May 8th by hitting their representative very hard on the nose with my fist. That should do the trick.

Alternatively sequestration. Yes, that's it. I'll sequestrate him. Wilson Field, Eunuchs. That will cut their hourly rate a wee bit.

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mortonjag 2008-04-25 21:35:09
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 25 2008, 07:12 PM) [snapback]440200[/snapback]
MY OATH TO YOU...
When you are sad....I will dry your tears.
When you are scared....I will comfort your fears.
When you are worried.....I will give you hope.
When you are confused....I will help you cope.
And when you are lost....And can't see the light, I shall be your beacon.....Shining ever so bright.
This is my oath.....I pledge till the end.
Why you may ask?.....Because you're my friend.


What a lovely man you are laugh.gif
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 25 2008, 07:20 PM) [snapback]440205[/snapback]
yes please tongue.gif
(and for the faint-hearted - moronjag is just a persona rolleyes.gif )

When the trumpet of the Lord shall sound-I'll be there!!!!! mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 21:38:48
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 25 2008, 09:03 PM) [snapback]440244[/snapback]
Cheers everyone. Mother and baby are both so well they are now home which just goes to show that the docs really are decent sorts, either that or my backhander to keep them in over the weekend so I could nurse my hangover and make the game tomorrow was a bit short.

Both I'd imagine!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 21:40:27
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 25 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]440224[/snapback]
why can't we all be friends? qed laugh.gif

He always says bad things about me Trumpet-I've a mind to report him.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 21:41:54
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Apr 25 2008, 08:19 PM) [snapback]440231[/snapback]
The ORC at Southampton has been very succesful. One of their professors has been shortlisted for the Millennium Technology prize.

http://www.millenniumprize.fi/

I used to visit their labs and stay in Hamble. Now that was very civilised. It is one of the areas in England that I would have relocated to.

Careful HT-Trumpet will be down on you like a ton of bricks!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 21:43:32
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Apr 25 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]440233[/snapback]
Like Weegie, I'm happily married but with two little boys. Both of whom are proud of their Morton kits despite being born in Lewisham. I fell into my career through chance and lack of opportunities up the road. I'll never be rich but I'm extremely happy. Only regret is that I never went to university. Trying to fix that now through the OU. But don't get too down about it - Wouldn't have met Mrs TAFKAC if I'd gone to uni at the right time.

laugh.gif

I have heard of black striped balls, mind you!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 21:45:17 Spent the day at Knockhill courtesy of Saab-their test drivers were maniacs!!!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 21:51:23
QUOTE(capitanus @ Apr 25 2008, 09:43 PM) [snapback]440268[/snapback]
I know that Alibi is courting sympathy from all who care to read his plight, but I find it impossible to feel sorry for him.

In fact I almost have more sympathy for those spamming Nigerian Oil Millionaires who were denied their fortunes and want your bank details. I said almost.

Well he WAS warned about Mileson in plenty of time, it has to be said, but you can't seriously fail to feel sorry for any of those small creditors.

Even the bloody local GP practice is owed a few grand! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 22:32:45
QUOTE(enigmaton @ Apr 25 2008, 10:11 PM) [snapback]440281[/snapback]
"The town bike" at the corrie park was brilliant!
Only spoiled by the bloody queues. rolleyes.gif



FIRST EVER ACTUAL RIDE



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mortonjag 2008-04-25 23:20:37
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 25 2008, 11:06 PM) [snapback]440305[/snapback]
Surely not from the best fans in Scotland unsure.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-25 23:21:51
QUOTE(enigmaton @ Apr 25 2008, 10:45 PM) [snapback]440292[/snapback]
Correct!! How did you know that?
Were you the old guy i was talking to in the queue? unsure.gif

Indeed I was, AND collecting the money! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 23:24:59
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Apr 25 2008, 10:40 PM) [snapback]440290[/snapback]
Moral victories don't get us any points wink.gif

Neither did immoral losses! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 23:26:57
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 25 2008, 11:03 PM) [snapback]440304[/snapback]
Emm.... the list is in alphabetical order. And Mileson goes to the back of the queue apparently as a creditor who has a direct connection as a director.


He WILL be at the creditors' meeting of course! wacko.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 23:29:23
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mortonjag 2008-04-25 23:31:23
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 25 2008, 11:23 PM) [snapback]440310[/snapback]
go for it, gaywad. like i give a f***. before you do, note that i have never even considered reporting anyone to whoever runs this thing - in fact i've never clyped in my life - which is the same attitude you have claimed to have yourself until now.

haud on. i have clyped before. it was a health and safety issue, but. it was deserved!

These Chinese have much to answer for.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 23:32:51
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 25 2008, 11:31 PM) [snapback]440318[/snapback]
I thought this thread was going to be about sex.

It is about rides-I once rode a Shetland Pony.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 23:45:47
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 25 2008, 11:38 PM) [snapback]440322[/snapback]
It was superb and lasted all night

...though I didn't realise her mother was watching from over the hedge.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 23:48:26
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 25 2008, 11:47 PM) [snapback]440327[/snapback]
she would have been very tired then

She was too busy snorting.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 23:50:21
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 25 2008, 11:48 PM) [snapback]440329[/snapback]
Guiness draft from a can! funny how it takes two to fill a pint tumbler!! why is that? is it the gadget/widget thing that takes up a third of the can space!!!

What you drinking just now?

Tea, specially brewed with MRET water. PG tips I believe, or so the monkey says.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 23:52:22
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 25 2008, 11:50 PM) [snapback]440331[/snapback]
You just finished the book 'how to win friends and influence people'

It must have been torcherous being one of your patients!!! jeez you need to lighten up and take a chill pill

I also once rode a pig bareback for a dare
mortonjag 2008-04-25 23:53:41
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 25 2008, 11:52 PM) [snapback]440334[/snapback]
you're impinging on the jake hour, mate. time for bed.

as for me, i'm onto the cheap whisky, since the good stuff is in a cardboard box in my parents' house in greenock. goddam flits.

Do you know what MRET water is?
mortonjag 2008-04-25 23:55:55
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 25 2008, 11:55 PM) [snapback]440338[/snapback]
i rode a bull at a rodeo for a dare. beat that, mr life experience.

Aye right!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 23:57:40
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 25 2008, 11:56 PM) [snapback]440341[/snapback]
Feel good movies like 'love actually' kinda grip me for both and believe it or not, I actually get caught up in those types of movies.

A good comedian (aka early big yin, early young ones, early blackadder etc) generally does the trick or even watching life go by brings a big smile to my face.

nothing better than a good cry or a good greet!!

what does it for you?

Shoogly has successfully done both many times this season-I've laughed out loud many a time reading the programme notes.

The crying has been done in secret.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 23:59:04
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 25 2008, 11:55 PM) [snapback]440339[/snapback]
i don't give a f***. you don't belong here. so f*** off.

I was planning on bed very shortly-I'm now almost determined to stay up all night.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 00:02:11
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 25 2008, 11:59 PM) [snapback]440347[/snapback]
like i give a f*** what you think.

You could have fooled me darling-now it really is the witching hour-I can hear my beloved moaning with pleasurable expectation.

Good night and God Bless. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-26 00:03:47
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 26 2008, 12:01 AM) [snapback]440349[/snapback]
Molecular Resonance Effect Technology
The basic idea of Molecular Resonance Effect Technology is the direct transmission of prerecorded molecular activity signals to biological systems with the help of Activated Water. These messages are imprinted in water during the process of activation. The effect of Activated Water on molecular complexes, such as bacteria, viruses, and abnormal cells, can be explained by the fundamental physical phenomenon of electromagnetism, such as resonance, constructive and destructive interference.

I think!

Correct, and the Jag has the equipment.

Good night! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-26 00:04:40
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 25 2008, 11:59 PM) [snapback]440346[/snapback]
Not at all Monsieur, you deserve the compliment. biggrin.gif

Goodnight and God bless Grand-dad!
mortonjag 2008-04-26 07:30:49
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 26 2008, 07:20 AM) [snapback]440383[/snapback]
Why did you take your shirt off MJ? unsure.gif

Christ almighty-the repartee after seven hours is f*ckin amazin!
mortonjag 2008-04-26 07:36:44
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 26 2008, 12:56 AM) [snapback]440367[/snapback]
sounds like pish to me. 'pre-recorded molecular activity'? bearing in mind that a water molecule has only 2 molecular bonds, there's not much room for memory there. not that memory is a suitable word.

anyway, mentaljag is still a dick, no matter how fast his internet connection to google is.

F*ck all to do with Google-I am acquainted with Dr Smirnov who discovered MRET when he was commissioned to study healing spas in the aftermath of Chernobyl. I use MRET water for a variety of purposes including the treatment of certain skin conditions.

Do not mock the educated you mangy cur!
mortonjag 2008-04-26 07:38:02
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Apr 26 2008, 02:25 AM) [snapback]440374[/snapback]
H²O.

MRET H2O?
mortonjag 2008-04-26 07:39:37
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 26 2008, 07:23 AM) [snapback]440384[/snapback]
Was on pints of stella and jack daniels last night, damn good!

Is Jack Daniels any better than yon' last bloke?
mortonjag 2008-04-26 07:42:07
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 26 2008, 07:26 AM) [snapback]440385[/snapback]
Fawlty towers and all Blackadders' are a real hoot and its a wonderful life for howling.

Believe it or not I get a lotta laffs on this forum-some of our posters are an absolute hoot! laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-26 07:44:24
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 26 2008, 07:32 AM) [snapback]440388[/snapback]
Morning MJ , I wasnt in at the time you posted so sorry for the time delay!

Oh well you are forgiven, but don't let it happen again.


The pig had a bareback-I can't remember if my shirt was on or off, but I had to remove my pants.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 07:45:40
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 26 2008, 07:29 AM) [snapback]440386[/snapback]
Fair doos I cant do the bloody thing either! laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-26 07:52:14 O give thanks unto the LORD; for he is good: because his mercy endureth for ever.
I called upon the LORD in distress: the LORD answered me, and set me in a large place.
The LORD is on my side; I will not fear: what can man do unto me?
The LORD taketh my part with them that help me: therefore shall I see my desire upon them that hate me.
It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.
The LORD is my strength and song, and is become my salvation.
The LORD hath chastened me sore: but he hath not given me over unto death.
Open to me the gates of righteousness: I will go into them, and I will praise the LORD
I will praise thee: for thou hast heard me, and art become my salvation.
This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.
O give thanks unto the LORD; for he is good: for his mercy endureth for ever.




AMEN
mortonjag 2008-04-26 07:56:08 Heavy rain and SW winds gusting up to 20 m.p.h. forecast for glesca, but I've been keeping a close eye on things and there's no evidence of local flooding.

Not a day for silky flowing football at Firhill or Broadwood I'd guess.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:03:55
QUOTE(jan65ton @ Apr 25 2008, 11:35 PM) [snapback]440320[/snapback]
to be the big 50 n have a body to die for but then at the 50 age would u be puttin it away so to speak whats u views n that video with young justin.

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I can't speak for anybody else but I'm in my sixties and have a body to die for. 'Puttin; it away'-I'm not sure what that means, but I still enjoy bringing it out.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:05:16 Jools Holland-chopsticks
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:06:20 The ginger cretin gnome of paradox was once a fine carrot top.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:08:19
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Apr 25 2008, 07:49 PM) [snapback]440223[/snapback]
FOA WeegieTon, picked up the book for you in the Port. Will see you at the game.

I will be having a read of that!
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:09:23 They should just exhume Big Jock.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:10:19 I only find you tube funny on occasion.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:11:18
QUOTE(leyTON @ Apr 25 2008, 07:39 PM) [snapback]440215[/snapback]
brilliant - love knock and dont run and my ball
havent seen much of series 3 - out most friday nights and virgin on demand doesnt seem to record it

Are those games any good for wee monkeys?
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:12:26
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 25 2008, 06:02 PM) [snapback]440173[/snapback]
Hello Loyal Lass, yes thanks, saw that in the record and sent them an email with my CV. I don't have one years experiance or even my LGV licence but it will do no harm to have emailed them telling them that and asking if they are looking for any 7.5 tonne drivers until I get my LGV licence blah blah blah.

Doubt if they could swing a club.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:13:22 Concorde was a graceful bird.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:14:00
QUOTE(Yoda @ Apr 25 2008, 09:10 AM) [snapback]439913[/snapback]
They took it down stone by stone, put it on pallets and left it on the site of the old Blacks factory the other side of the bridge at Cappielow. Then it wasn't there anymore. A midnight flit me thinks!

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mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:14:58 Is this pineapple club in Glasgow?
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:17:10
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 25 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]439944[/snapback]
Labour MSP Duncan McNeil told parliament: "Cynics might say: Trump said jump, the First Minister of Scotland said how high?'."

And the public might say how low can this git Mc Neil get and vote him out! mad.gif No one would deserve it more!

His DOES support the Mighty Ton , though! rolleyes.gif wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:19:28 Is there an upper age limit?
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:21:04
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 24 2008, 09:44 PM) [snapback]439777[/snapback]
it's the password then - change it again, you've probably mispelled it somewhere (router or Xbox)

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The long lost art of rudimentary diagnosis, Santa! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:22:03 sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:28:30
QUOTE(jpmil @ Apr 26 2008, 08:09 AM) [snapback]440402[/snapback]
Just back from the golf course (didn't play) because of the weather and the Greenkeeper told me that up to an inch of rain is forecast for today......now I'm beginning to worry!!!!!!

Up here it's been heavy but in bursts of shower and there's been plenty of time for drainage so far as I can see.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:30:43
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 26 2008, 08:26 AM) [snapback]440417[/snapback]
Very deep.

My God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:32:14
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 26 2008, 08:22 AM) [snapback]440414[/snapback]
I believe his loyalties lie at Ibrox and he only turns up at cappielow to try and get some CHUCK It wont work though!

Hence my 'smileys'!
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:34:06
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 26 2008, 08:23 AM) [snapback]440415[/snapback]
Yes you are up early and apparently very busy! I would presume your little monkey friend has taken his attention from the Financial times to assist you ! wink.gif

He's actually been helping his Mum to prepare the sandwiches for this evening's victory buffet!
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:35:31
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 26 2008, 08:25 AM) [snapback]440416[/snapback]
Good grief! ohmy.gif

All that's required is a breadth of mind-I've seen much worse walking down Sauchiehall St.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:38:21
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 26 2008, 08:34 AM) [snapback]440426[/snapback]
Hence my 'smileys'!
[/quote

You rascal

Mr McNeill epitomises the McGahey type trade unionist, turned lefty MP-as thick as s*** and appealing to a thicker electorate.

A dying breed too, and thank f***.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:40:50
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 26 2008, 08:36 AM) [snapback]440428[/snapback]
He's actually been helping his Mum to prepare the sandwiches for this evening's victory buffet!
[/quote What a helpful little monkey! I think thats great! its always best to plan ahead! Are you still toying with the idea of cycling or walking to the match??


Truth be told --- my partner (the hun one) had promised to come to the game with me, but now has to baby sit for her sister in Bishopbriggs, so I'll be dropping her off and driving over the back roads to Maryhill.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:44:08
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 26 2008, 08:30 AM) [snapback]440420[/snapback]
very droll! laugh.gif No I was referring to the drink and they are a potent combination!

I'll never forget a night out with my eldest son in the dearly departed 'Wickets' in Partickhill.

It was getting up to closing time and he was already pretty far away, when he had the barmaid in stitches by ordering a triple Dack Janiels and coke!

I wasn't so amused-Daddy, as usual, was paying!

mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:47:04
QUOTE(enigmaton @ Apr 26 2008, 08:40 AM) [snapback]440430[/snapback]
Take it a hangovers on the cards tody then Dazza!!!

FOOLS ENJOY ALCOHOL RECKLESSLY
mortonjag 2008-04-26 09:15:55 Three High Court judges will rule this summer on an appeal case which could overturn speeding convictions dating back a generation and open the floodgates for compensation running into tens of millions of pounds.

At the heart of the appeal is the alleged failure of the Home Office to follow its own procedures by specifying in law the equipment used for speed traps. Each type of camera or device, whether using radar, laser or other technology, was meant to be tested and then specifically prescribed by name in a Parliamentary Order.

The failure of civil servants to do so could render most of the speeding convictions over the past 19 years unsound, and judges at the Court of Appeal will rule on the test case this summer.
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The case is seen as being of sufficient merit that legal aid has been awarded and counsel is being instructed.

A second argument in the case will be that similar bureaucratic sloppiness has left Scotland's motorway network stuck in a grey area in law, with the roads' precise status unclear and therefore the laws applying to them invalid.

This argument does not apply south of the Border, but the arguments about the legality of speed cameras does and that is to be tested in a similar test case in England brought by the same campaigner.

The case in Scotland is logged as Robbie the Pict v Procurator-Fiscal Annan, and relates to the campaigner being convicted of driving at 85mph on the M74. He told The Herald yesterday that his defence was that there was no speed limit on this stretch of road or any other motorway in Scotland because the subordinate legislation was never put in place to confirm in law the road's status.

His second line of defence is that no laser speed measuring device has been declared a prescribed device in the required Parliamentary Order, including the LTI 20-20 Speedscope used to convict him.

He also has a case before the English courts regarding the use of the Gatso camera, the most commonly used on Britain's road, which he argues has also not been properly prescribed.

The campaigner said: "This places under question all speeding convictions on motorways since their opening in Scotland, all speeding convictions based on speed measuring devices or cameras since 1991, and in particular all speeding fines or convictions based upon laser guns and their related cameras since their individual introduction. This is now a multi-million pound issue undermining every fine levied since 1991 and all the compensation which may be due as a result of wrongful prosecutions and convictions.

"The possible political fallout is of a significant order, starts with the Tory Home Secretary of 1991 Kenneth Baker, followed by Kenneth Clarke




I have twice successfully contested a speeding fine/endorsement for my eldest son on the basis that the 'registered keeper' of the vehicle (myself) may quite feasibly be unable to identify a specific driver many weeks or months after an alleged incident.

I'm not condoning excessive speed, but those cameras, IMHO, do little to prevent accidents (especially since the mandatory warning stripes) and are just a form of secondary taxation.

A recent report in the NE of England where they abandoned the cameras and introduced more unmarked patrols demonstrated a significant drop in accidents.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 09:18:22
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 26 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]440438[/snapback]
I'm shaking like a s***eing dug already.

Mon the Ton.

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No need to get OVER excited pimpleknob-it's in the bag! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-26 09:19:22
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 26 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]440439[/snapback]
Oh I was born under a Greenock tree, A Greenock, Greenock Tree laugh.gif

I was born under a Greenock tree.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 09:22:45
QUOTE(se65an @ Apr 24 2008, 07:17 PM) [snapback]439729[/snapback]
Too old for me MJ.

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You're only as old as you wish to be-I'm told Claymore C*ck's a past master of Strip the Willow.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 09:25:20
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Apr 26 2008, 09:21 AM) [snapback]440443[/snapback]
not conceived mj ................................ tongue.gif

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Ma Da came under a Greenock tree doesn't sound right.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 09:30:24
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 26 2008, 09:27 AM) [snapback]440448[/snapback]
Thats a serious dent in the old wallet there MJ,no wonder you were not amused! sad.gif

It was all worth it mind-he can now buy and sell me! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-26 09:34:34
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Apr 26 2008, 09:28 AM) [snapback]440450[/snapback]
not got quite the same ring to it......................... tongue.gif

Indeed-I do like that song but I can't abide that daft 'Stand up' one when only those who are at least half pissed bother to raise their arses off the seats and block others' views.

Hopefully we'll sort out some decent songs for next season's SPL drive!
mortonjag 2008-04-26 09:36:49
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 26 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]440451[/snapback]
I one day hope to see that smug git get his at the ballot box , some of us have long memories! mad.gif

He may die prematurely of obesity! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-26 09:44:21
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 26 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]440453[/snapback]
ah well alls well that ends well! does he now treat his ageing father in a similar fashion?

Mortonjag wouldn't be seen dead drinking triple Dack Janiels with coke!

He is very generous mind you-bought me my current car as a 'pay back' for starting him in business! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-26 10:37:12
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 26 2008, 10:30 AM) [snapback]440471[/snapback]
Well thats pretty good of him! I prefer clear lemonade and ice with my JD's although as the night goes on les and less lemonade goes in and more and more JD!

ohmy.gif

Why bother with the lemonade?
mortonjag 2008-04-26 10:40:22
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Apr 26 2008, 10:24 AM) [snapback]440468[/snapback]
Am I wrong in thinking we sing 'I was born under a Green Oak Tree' not 'Greenock Tree?' unsure.gif

You are wrong-AND correct! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-26 10:43:31
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 26 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]440477[/snapback]
I have done a bit of strip willowing in my day. rolleyes.gif

Since it's my birthday tomorrow, I'm looking for a wee early birthday present today tongue.gif Just to help with the celebrations tonight laugh.gif

Good God Spurtle you're almost 50.

Wisdom must surely kick in soon! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-26 10:44:51
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 26 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]440476[/snapback]
Aw baws! - I've got tickets for his concert in Glasgow in December!!!

An excuse for plenty of Dack Janiels minus lemonade I'd suggest!
mortonjag 2008-04-26 10:47:52
QUOTE(piehutt @ Apr 26 2008, 10:44 AM) [snapback]440484[/snapback]
mortonjag highjacks another promising thread.

c*nt!

What are you bleating about child?

Mortonjag has hi-jacked nothing-the thread is about unspecified rides.

How much silky flowing football do you predict from the mighty Ton this afternoon Piehole?
mortonjag 2008-04-26 10:51:42
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 26 2008, 10:43 AM) [snapback]440481[/snapback]
I didn't get where I am today by not knowing what it is I'm not doing

You should try to get more sleep, it might put you in a better mood for the day! huh.gif

I get more than enough sleep thanks, and am in an extremely good mood.

When somebody asks a question like 'What's wrong with *******-everything was fine until I changed the password'----the obvious conclusion is that that it what has caused the problem. I was actually praising your clarity of mind! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-26 10:53:21
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 26 2008, 10:44 AM) [snapback]440483[/snapback]
Well it hasn't with you laugh.gif

I was born wise and improved hugely!
mortonjag 2008-04-26 18:13:14 The only disappointment for me was Rae having the pure gall to come on to the pitch at the end. I was very interested to hear Davie Irons mention Alistair Donald on his BBC Scotland interview. I pray we've seen the end of that old clown calling the shots.

WELL DONE to everybody else-you were fantastic-as were the fans. Well done to DI/DC and the lads!
mortonjag 2008-04-26 21:57:55
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 26 2008, 08:30 PM) [snapback]440792[/snapback]
Were you playing sudoko at half time today?

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Indeed I was not. I was just delighted that my confidence in David Irons had been justified even if it did go right to the wire, and I stand by my comments about Douglas Rae. The same folk who are raging because I've dared to criticise him today are the ones who were right behind JM this time last year. rolleyes.gif

Memories are indeed very very short for some. Rae did NOT want JM to leave-if anybody deserves praise today for allowing change in time to avoid relegation it's bloody JM himself-oh and eejit Mileson for bailing out just at the opportune moment for us to pick up some players and a half decent Management team.

It would have been SO different if JM had agreed to hang on-yet that's what Rae claimed he wanted.

As I said, he has some f*cking cheek coming onto the pitch at the end-NO WAY was it to do anything other than to bask in glory of somebody else's making.

Is Alistair Donald now about to splash the cash-I honestly believe that's on the cards. Hopefully we've seen the last of our Saviour turned liability, except in an honorary capacity.


Credit to a Chairman who's bacon's been saved by events outwith his control? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-27 09:19:15 It's the morning after the night before. The sun is shining brightly; the monkey and and I have happy smiles and are sans hangover.

I wonder how many who attended yesterday's trial can say the same.

The charge-Morton had failed to bring anything to the higher division, and if found guilty, would risk banishment to the lower division wasteland from which they had, only a short season ago, painfully clawed their way.

The charge indeed was of corporate manslaughter by the directors, though all but the Chairman had lodged a defence of 'alibi'.

In the event, the not proven verdict was a monstrous relief to all at Cappielow.

Thanks to sterling work by David Irons QC, and his team, a reprieve was granted.

'Joy' was confused with relief in the hearts of all true Morton men.

The club had yet again been dying a SLOW AND PAINFUL DEATH until fate saw ex manager Jim McInally move to the greater things deserved by a man of such singular character and integrity, qualities which left the Chairman broken hearted on his departure.

100 miles away, another club was dying on its feet. Its management team was desperate for employment. Serendipitously they applied for the job at Greenock Morton

Belief was gradually instilled into a squad who had apparently deserved the chance to take the club forward, but had proceeded to do exactly the opposite, and at yesterday's trial, that belief was just enough to divide the jury.



It's the cold light of day folks.

NEVER again must we be allowed to get into the mess CAUSED directly by Rae. For him, the not proven verdict was enough to see him brass his way onto the park yesterday, though his lip ultimately tripped him as he was ignored by all who really mattered.

If EVER you will see a sign of thick skinned arrogance, that was it-good gracious-you'd have thought we'd just beaten Glasgow Rangers in the Scottish Cup final. We don't do Scottish Cup finals nowadays, though-- fairy tale stuff like that is NOT for provincial clubs headed up by a Mr Rae!

So it's out with the old and in with the new. What is the future for this club whom some claim is smaller than Kilmarnock, yet can attract almost 3000 bodies to a do or die relegation trial?


One thing is as clear as day to me; David Irons and Derek Collins are proud and principled men. If they are baulked by the Chairman's personality in the same way as previous victims, they will walk away.

I DO believe, however, that we are now on the brink of financial viability which will not result from plundering the limited assets of the golden casket.


I also firmly believe that that THIS is what should be uniting us, as true fans. The time for cow towing to a man who's 'heart's in the right place' has long passed.

In his own words, it is unfortunately a results driven business.
mortonjag 2008-04-28 08:13:40 I was treated in EXACTLY the same way over Jim McInally and Brooks Mileson.

You clearly don't have access to information about the financial goings on over the last season-as I do Tonsilitis. There is a small number of posters who know exactly what I'm talking about, and only the lucky coincidence of Gretna's tumble with ours has saved us from division 2.

HAD WE GONE DOWN, RAE WOULD, JUST LIKE JM, HAVE TURNED TO VILLAIN OVERNIGHT!

Sad to see you associating yourself with the mindless rabble.


I thought you had more substance. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-07 16:35:20 I was on holiday....

How dare you class me as inept as that buffon
mortonjag 2008-05-07 16:36:40 Buffons the lot of you...

On holiday up north with some excellent friends
mortonjag 2008-05-07 16:37:53 how dare you back to the kitchen wench
mortonjag 2008-05-07 16:38:51 I am not Midtons you idiot

mortonjag 2008-05-16 09:50:15 Just popped back briefly to ask why the last of the four fake posts has not been removed. The Mods claim they know nothing about what they describe as possible 'hacking' of the Jag's account.

Funny how they can wield so much 'power' in some departments, but can't control something as simple as this!

Anyway it would be nice to know what clever Dick was responsible! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-17 08:24:29 How terribly convenient for honest Mr Elliot that a 'bid' has arrived at the eleventh hour-that justifies ALL his mischief! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-17 16:49:30
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ May 17 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]448492[/snapback]
MJ - if you need a hand to find out who did it, let me know - I've a Unix admin background and know some pretty good IT people wink.gif

Thanks Santa, but I reckon it wasn't meant to be naughty-certainly not the kind of thing to deserve a five day ban without warning.

More on the innocent level of wishing people slow and painful deaths, expressing disappointment that folk were not so, posting other members' personal details on the board, and attempting to show photos of other posters-innocuous stuff if you will! dry.gif

The Mods would never let that sort of thing pass unchallenged I'd imagine.
mortonjag 2008-05-18 09:19:20
QUOTE(Deego @ May 18 2008, 02:57 AM) [snapback]448712[/snapback]
ur a hevy babe btw wub.gif

Careful child-mischief is not tolerated by Presbyterian Moderators.

I know this-my ex wife's daddy was a COS meenister.
mortonjag 2008-05-18 09:22:55
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 17 2008, 10:19 PM) [snapback]448619[/snapback]
The Mods would never let that sort of thing pass unchallenged I'd imagine.
should we campaign for rockers instead ?

blink.gif



I never had much time for those Vespas-indiscriminate stinging and all that.


Boozie for moderator! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-19 10:23:20
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 18 2008, 02:32 PM) [snapback]448785[/snapback]
What about careless child-mischief? unsure.gif

That is permitted!
mortonjag 2008-05-19 11:04:00 Salmond has supported a state funded all Muslim school for Glasgow.

Sam Galbraith describes this as a retrograde step.

I thoroughly agree-Bawheid is foolishly pandering to a minority group in the hope of gaining more votes, and will wash his hands of responsibility for halting the process of integration when challenged.

This is the same man who sent out directives to all Universities last autumn demanding to know 'how they would be celebrating St. Andrews' day!

Will he now be demanding to know how they'll be celebrating Ramadan? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-20 05:58:05
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 19 2008, 04:24 PM) [snapback]449215[/snapback]
If all the staff have been sacked, what's left to sell? Only the putative SFL place I asume (and possibly the land but that is in dispute). The only reason for this to be dragged out is the administrator wants even more in fees. Tuna.

Criminal behaviour from start to finish.
mortonjag 2008-05-20 06:10:25
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ May 20 2008, 05:41 AM) [snapback]449449[/snapback]
internet messageboards are a great place to learn about philosophy.


Schools are also great places to learn.
Muslim schools are great places to learn about Allah.
mortonjag 2008-05-20 07:30:12
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 20 2008, 06:43 AM) [snapback]449452[/snapback]
As are Roman Catholic schools great places to learn about God.

Why does you anger towards faith based schools seem to be reserved for Islam?

My anger is reserved for fools like Bawheid who should know better.

Religious people naturally want their children to learn the truth in schools.
mortonjag 2008-05-20 07:32:33
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ May 20 2008, 07:15 AM) [snapback]449454[/snapback]
on a bottle of kids tixylix it says - may cause drowsiness, if affected please dont drive or operate machinery!!!!! hide the electronic crane and the yellow and red bubble car quickly wtf!

I'd stick to the Voddy my dear! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-20 18:17:17
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 20 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]449477[/snapback]
I've said several times that I disagree with faith based schools of any religion. I'm firmly of the opinion that religion and all government institutions including education should be completely separate, as they are in France.

Therefore I disagree with the concept of Muslim faith schools as I do Catholic faith schools. But the fact is that we've already got faith schools and it would take a very brave politician indeed to alienate 20% of the electorate to change that. I'm all for conviction politics but in reality it has to be mixed with pragmatism. Any politician advocating the abolision of Catholic faith based schools would also certainly render him or herself unelectable and I don't think anyone would be willing to sacrafice their electability on this one single issue. I'm not agreeing with that or saying it's right, but it's reality and to single out Salmond for criticism on this issue when we've had faith based schools for centuries supported by all parties is disingenuous to say the least.

So given that faith based schools are here, and are almost certainly here to stay, to say that Muslims cannot have them while Jews and Roman Catholics can would be wrong, plain and simple. And I question the motives of those who single out Islam when speaking out against faith based schools. While I have come to expect no better from MJ I had thought more of you David.

Mortonjag was speaking out against that pragmatic myope bawheid, micropenis!

QUOTE(simple_ton @ May 20 2008, 12:16 PM) [snapback]449515[/snapback]
To get back to original topic....

If anyone's that desperate to go to a Muslim school, there are plenty of those schools in Pakistan, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, in fact numerous countries....fill yer boots!

That is indeed a fact.

QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 20 2008, 02:27 PM) [snapback]449573[/snapback]
laugh.gif

Though many of the Muslims in Pollokshields do send their weans to Catholic schools. ohmy.gif

Correct Mr Bam, and proddy -OOPS-state schools too. As you and I know very well, that's where the majority of forward thinking Muslims will continue to send them anyway! rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 20 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]449626[/snapback]
Aw, I like it when we're all pals.

Group hug everyone?

F*ck off ya wannabe weasel.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 08:09:44
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 20 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]449706[/snapback]
I meant every word of it.


Though I'm certain you never intended to twist my comments with your usual quasi intelligent gratuitous spin to make me look anti Muslim and racist, Trois Maisons.

Oh and you have NEVER personally abused the Jag, let alone poked fun at him.

I've been officially warned by the Mods for personally abusing you. Hopefully that will make you feel like one of the big boys. laugh.gif


QUOTE(steveoath @ May 20 2008, 10:09 PM) [snapback]449753[/snapback]
And Alex Salmond is a tosser. A face like horse's arse and a voice that would cut cheese. He's obv trying to play the media friendly vote getting angle but could see his party losing ground.

However, politics is like trying to talk to monkeys. It doesn't matter which one you try and speak to, in the end they're all gonna through sh1t at you.

Steve

My monkey despises Bawheid-I keep telling him that even politicians must have some good in them.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 09:32:30
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 21 2008, 08:14 AM) [snapback]449851[/snapback]
Doesn't make me feel anything, I just hope you heed the warning. rolleyes.gif

Well I did point out to the Mods that you had openly admitted to being a dwarf. The term 'micropenis' was therefore, anatomically correct-assuming you are proportioned normally, but I apologise profusely if I caused offence. I do understand that some people are very precious about their willies.

As to the 'wannabe weasel'-again I apologise for any offence, though I'd comment that the successful members of the weasel family thrive on killing their intended prey.

Personal abuse my friend, is only abusive if it is intended to hurt. I had believed that Trois Maisons could take as well give! sad.gif

mortonjag 2008-05-21 09:54:25 While Gordon Brown, the Prime Minister, and Nick Clegg, the Liberal Democrat leader, had been expected to vote to keep the 24-week limit, David Cameron, the Conservative leader, and Alex Salmond, the First Minister, indicated beforehand they were due to vote to lower it to 22 weeks.


It's amazing the depths folks will plumb to court the minority vote at public expense. I've never been in favour of abortion except in extreme situations-many of which, by their very nature are not fully manifest in the earlier stages of pregnancy. There's no point in having a dog and barking yourself Bawheid-listen to the medical advice-you are, after all, a mere layman.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 14:23:58
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 21 2008, 10:30 AM) [snapback]449879[/snapback]
My dwarfism is hardly justification for personal abuse MJ and I'm sorry you didn't see fit to heed the warning of the Moderator on this subject by repeating it.

I wouldn't dream of deliberately abusing anybody on the basis of unwanted pathology. In that respect it would be helpful to know if indeed you regard your lack of inches as an illness, or for that matter a disadvantage.

You see, I never believed that you did, but your recent behaviour has me wondering.

If I have said anything in the slightest remotely offensive in this post, I apologise in advance.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 14:39:46
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 21 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]449920[/snapback]
Rubbish. You just don't seem to comprehend that in some things he agrees with the Tories, on others with Labour or Lib Dems. He decides on a basis of what is good for Scotland (or to be fair, what he considers to be good for Scotland).

MJ just likes attacking Alex salmond at every opportunity. It's getting a bit predictable
...

So were his attacks on McInally and Mileson, if I recall! So are his attacks on the man 'whose heart's in the right place'! sad.gif

QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 21 2008, 01:21 PM) [snapback]449970[/snapback]
I'd agree with most of that. Salmond does have one thing in common with Paisley - they both profess loyalty to royalty. biggrin.gif

I'd suggest that Bawheid aspires to Royalty. He's probably already done the dummy run at Scone.

Queen Moira the First doesn't ring true- that's also in keeping with the young pretender's blabberings.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 14:40:55
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 21 2008, 02:07 PM) [snapback]449994[/snapback]
I think the SNP was only left of centre for very brief periods in its history. Some of its foundations and roots in the old NPS and SHRA were certainly leftist, notably the likes of 'Hughie' Grieve, Gallacher, Johnston, Muirhead, Maxton and all, but they were mostly put out of the picture when the parties merged with the rightists in the Scottish Party. There was certainly a left of centre shift in the 80's with MacDonald and Sillars but this was shortlived as well. I've always doubted Eck's credentials - I think he was expelled for being a bit of a lefty in the early 80's but joined up again a year later, presumably after some 're-education'. Say what you like about Eck though, he's certainly a highly skilled politician, adept at knowing which way the wind blows, and then following it.

up Soapy's arse.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 14:53:28 I notice that some £2000 was raised at the recent Sportsman's dinner, and I've just read this in the Tilly-


The 5-2 scoreline was a moot point, as a fantastic day was had all round, with over £2,500 being raised for Morton Youth Development. Amidst a pitch invasion at the final whistle, Morton manager Davie Irons said: “It is a great occasion for the support to be able to come and play at Cappielow. The club would benefit from more things like this, it was very well organised and it is great to meet the support, and encourage new fans to come down to the ground.â€

In view of the recent confusion and controversy about our fragmented Youth Policy, I'm wondering if the huge efforts of so many achieve their intended goal.

What actually happens to those moneys once they are raised-are they simply handed over in good faith to the Club-aka Mr Rae, or are they overseen by the Trust, and specifically disbursed on Youth Development?

mortonjag 2008-05-21 14:57:55 The 'small number of quality players' we were promised must surely be nestling on the back burner.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 15:00:41
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 21 2008, 02:58 PM) [snapback]450022[/snapback]
here we go - got a helluva feeling of deja vu (or did someone just say that??) dry.gif

That is not an answer to my legitimate question.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 15:10:52
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 21 2008, 02:38 PM) [snapback]450008[/snapback]
MJ I have no absolutely no intention of discussing my medical condition or how it affects me on a public forum with you.

Please drop the subject.

Very well.

Remember the old saying about sauce for the goose, my friend, and don't be asking the Jag any more personal questions about mental illness.

Incidentally Mortonjag stands a full five feet one and a half inches, or did in the days when those things seemed to matter. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-21 15:14:10
QUOTE(xj2006 @ May 21 2008, 03:05 PM) [snapback]450027[/snapback]
I am happy with the signings so far

what do we expect for a first division club?

So am I.

Just wondering when the small number of quality players will arrive.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 15:16:55
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 21 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]450025[/snapback]
Great time indeed. Madame Fifi says to say hello to you et votre grand zizi (whatever that means).
I don't care indeed. People's sexuality is their own affair.

Consenting adults in private?
mortonjag 2008-05-21 15:21:20 Just tried to check those details Mr Edwards, but 'fraid I can't come up with the information.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 15:26:25

Salmond's a tory alriight
if you talk tripe and it looks tripe then it f'cking is tripe

he is no Tory!

[/quote]
That is probably quite fair, and he's CERTAINLY no socialist. I'd hardly describe him as a liberal either-more of an independent if you will, which kind of brings us full circle to the fact that once elected he completely lost the plot.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 15:29:11
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 21 2008, 01:13 PM) [snapback]449962[/snapback]
Ok so why is it crossing the road then??

[attachment=4003:Chicken.jpg]

For some fowl reason.

Oh and BTW that is NOT a chicken-it's a c**k

Size matters!
mortonjag 2008-05-21 15:41:19
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 21 2008, 03:28 PM) [snapback]450045[/snapback]
Watch out Mentaljag, Edinton aka 'Careful or I'll close down this thread' might be after you. tongue.gif

Edinton is a good chap-the thread was locked to protect Mortonjag-anyway I now have the information you require if you'll just bear with me-damn it-will nothing I do stand up to scrutiny? sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-21 15:43:49 sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-21 15:49:45 I can't actually remember my first match. Hal Stewart had just arrived, and we'd been the joke of Scottish football for several seasons. Hal was always a showman-he knew how to pull in the crowds, and my first memory was of the unveiling of the new goalkeeper labelled by the press as 'The man in black'.

Erik Sorensen subsequently inherited that title but the original man in black was an Irish goalie by the name of Finbarr Flood.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 15:54:44
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 21 2008, 03:23 PM) [snapback]450041[/snapback]
Mate, I will be there. I have every confidence that you will make it to wink.gif Me I have been doing some light training over the last month or two and am playing a lot more footy with my son again. I am going to keep it up now so i will def be a lot fitter next year. After all we have to impart all out experience and knowledge to those young whippersnappers on the park laugh.gif

You can't blame the poor whippersnappers for being young-that is NOT PC.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 15:58:06
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 21 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]450065[/snapback]
Jeezo, it's bedtime tory time again.

Are you sitting comfortably-then I'll begin! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-21 16:02:18
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 21 2008, 03:51 PM) [snapback]450063[/snapback]
Erm.... I'll pass on that if you don't mind. Maybe CHC can call you megapenis from now on. laugh.gif

Droopy dick might be more appropriate but now he's gone and spoiled it all.

Anyway, when I was in my prime my erect willie was no less than three inches






















































WIDE
mortonjag 2008-05-21 16:04:16
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 21 2008, 04:00 PM) [snapback]450067[/snapback]
I'll pass on that one as well. I'm running oot the door as i tyyyyyypppppe

You could have mopped it up like I do!
mortonjag 2008-05-21 16:07:27
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 21 2008, 04:04 PM) [snapback]450069[/snapback]
Too much information (in every sense).

I didn't mean to offend you-please accept my grovelling apology-anyway I lied!
mortonjag 2008-05-21 16:11:40
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 21 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]450076[/snapback]
laugh.gif Who wants to be PC?? Not me anyway. Whippersnappers they are and whippersnappers they will remain tongue.gif

P.S. To the whippersnappers, the term is not meant to be derogotary bye the way wink.gif

I never fancied joining the polis either-I was far too wee for a start. If I had mind you, I'd have tobered up all whippersnappers-but especially those young ones. They'd sure have got a taste of my truncheon.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 18:06:26
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ May 21 2008, 04:45 PM) [snapback]450095[/snapback]
The time to get answers for legitimate questions was at the Port Glasgow Town Hall and you bottled that chance so tell valid as it may be, me who from on here are you expecting to answer your question?

Really-then I'll refer you to Toby and Chrissiboi with that one! laugh.gif

QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 21 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]450105[/snapback]
Any need for that. It's a very valid point and one I'd like answered.


One person agrees with me at least! wink.gif


QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 21 2008, 05:36 PM) [snapback]450127[/snapback]
my answer, then, is this - whatever you think of the Raes ( and that has been made painfully obvious), they are professional businessmen who are used to running not just Morton FC but a considerable larger enterprise.

They will be well aware of the due diligences they must adhere to and the accountability that they have with regard to how monies within their companies are allocated and spent, ESPECIALLY monies raised in such a way as this, and we have no reason to doubt that they will adhere to these criteria.

Sitting on the sidelines and making this sort of snide comment - instead of taking the opportunity that you had to make your points face to face with the men themselves, but declined to do - serves no constructive purpose and you should desist for the benefit of all concerned, not least the long-suffering readership of this board.

If you have any concrete evidence of wrongdoing or misappropriation of money by the board of MFC, then come on, let's see it. If not, then give us all peace, man, and get a life.



You have NOT answered my question. You have simply stated what YOU believe the Raes do and don't do, without citing a crumb of supportive evidence other than the usual sycophantic sh*te about Golden Casket being a 'large enterprise' when it's only a wee sweetie factory run by an old sweetie wife.

I resent your twisting of my legitimate question to incorporate 'snide comment', and 'wrongdoing and misappropriation by the board'. Those thoughts came from your fanciful cranium-not mine. I merely posed a very serious question which many are asking but perhaps a bit shy about posting.

Now to the 'long suffering readership of this board'-yes indeed my friend- seven years IS a long time to suffer the megalomanic self indulgences of a man who in my opinion-BACKED BY EVIDENCE which I will not publish here, but which is shared by several other respected posters, is now the one thing which is preventing Greenock Morton FC from moving onwards.

Finally, I've made it clear in the past who I am, and may I assure you that I am well aware of the due diligences, and accountability I have when I make allegations on this forum.

Would you care to do the same, or do you prefer to hide up Mr Rae's arse? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-21 18:24:26
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 21 2008, 12:14 PM) [snapback]449923[/snapback]
It gets worse. I've had a communication from the administrator, marked private and confidential so I'm not about to reveal the contents here, but I am about to go ballistic when the adminstrator calls to discuss it.

It simply says 'Best wishes from off the Bahamas....... Brooks, David, and the daily llama xxx'.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 18:26:37
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 21 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]450122[/snapback]
Well obviously size matters , watched a lady trying to Park her car at Tesco's lets just say she didn't look as if she was with esure insurance ( 3 years no claims I would hardly think so ).

She should have pushed the seat back a bit further!
mortonjag 2008-05-21 18:31:28
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 21 2008, 05:43 PM) [snapback]450129[/snapback]
we'll be at these albumen night now.......

hatchet man chopped off mitosis
mortonjag 2008-05-21 18:34:02
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 21 2008, 06:29 PM) [snapback]450143[/snapback]
normal service is resumed sad.gif sad.gif

unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-21 18:40:03
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 21 2008, 06:33 PM) [snapback]450146[/snapback]
1. I stated what I believe - and that's all that YOU did, ain't it??!! And you did so without, to quote you, ' a crumb of supportive evidence'. If you have such evidence, then put up - or shut up.
Thankfully, my opinion is level-headed and even-handed, and far from being sycophantic sh*te. Tho I , WILL say that "that old sweetie wife", as you refer to him, has done a lot better for himself than you or Iand as such is in all likelihood better equipped to run MFC, AND to run it in the right way as far as accountability for funds, etc, is concerned.

2. Read your original post again - it's "snide comment" to a T. And you posted a legitimate question in a cynically biased and slanted way, as is your wont when it comes to the Raes; hence my "deja vu" comment.

3. Read my post again - I made absolutely no refernce to who you are, who you aren't who you might want to someday become. You could be Napoleon for all I care (aye, and like him I bet you often feel a right tit) - but if you're suffering an identity crisis keep it to yourself. I know the comments that have been doing the rounds here about your identity, but don't flatter yourself that I'm interested, I couldn't give a gnat's chuff who you are and it's a rather pompous assumption of yours to think that I do.

4. As for your final point, you seem to assume that all of those who don't agree with you are somehow i thrall to DDFR and kowtow to him at every opportunity. NOT the case; if I think he deserves criticism then I'll give it - but only when there are legitimate grounds, and I won't use a news article to cast aspersions about the man. And, incidentally, what is, quote, "do you prefer to hide up Mr Rae's arse?" if not a snide, uncalled for and personal comment which you have absolutely no grounds for making?

The defence rests. I'm going home now for some peace. Somebody else can take a shot at rattling your cage - there are plenty here that enjoy doing it.

I thought you were being serious. It's nice to know you were only attempting to rattle my cage.

I do, however, take exception to the assumption you make as highlighted. I'm desperately sorry that you can't hold a candle to the great man. Please don't assume all are in the same boat. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-21 18:49:05
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ May 21 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]450156[/snapback]
Welcome back mortonjag! laugh.gif

Thank you my little bugger-btw did you get my pm a few days back? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-21 18:56:54
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 21 2008, 05:32 PM) [snapback]450126[/snapback]
As long as we now know that you don't have a problem with Tory party members taking drugs and paying for sex with young women and men.

Thanks for clearing that up Mr McB ohmy.gif



Did he have to pay for the drugs or was he exempt from prescription charges Spurtle. He'd sure have loved wee Nickerless's new broom.

As for the sex, you've got to hand it to those Tories-they don't believe in free handouts.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 19:00:18
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 21 2008, 06:53 PM) [snapback]450165[/snapback]
I wonder if anyone has made a bid for that lucky horseshoe

laugh.gif

FFS that brings back memories of my early comments about Gretna only being fit for runaway weddings!
mortonjag 2008-05-21 19:08:50
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ May 21 2008, 06:59 PM) [snapback]450171[/snapback]
From The Herald

"Turnover climbed 16% to £16.3m in calendar 2006, which Rae attributed to "increasing our business through existing customers rather than acquiring many new ones". Pre-tax profits climbed from £1.23m in 2005 to £1.44m."

Sounds like a wee sweetie factory doesnt it ?? 16.3m Turnover in 2006

Change the record ya old fool


Edit to add

I would actually like to see how the money we raise is spent and would be nice for the club to show us what our money was being invested in


Don't you know my good friend that today we are avoiding personal insults you youthful savant!

In the confectionery world it is indeed a very small enterprise, as I have pointed out repeatedly. That it has taken Mr Rae all his life to reach that pinnacle of success-I believe he is now 77- is indeed remarkable! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-21 19:13:44
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 21 2008, 07:07 PM) [snapback]450174[/snapback]
alas cassandra sad.gif

Alaska Sandra was married in Newfoundland Trumpet.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 19:18:00
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 21 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]450181[/snapback]
clearly not completely senile laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif sad.gif

Clearly is 53.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 19:29:38
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 21 2008, 07:23 PM) [snapback]450188[/snapback]
are you drunk or stupid?

Neither my dear, and hadn't you noticed we're avoiding personal abuse today!

Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not, for of such is the kingdom of heaven.

Jesus said that BTW.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 19:38:51
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ May 21 2008, 07:26 PM) [snapback]450189[/snapback]
Scotland's biggest independent sweet manufacturer - Yeah he is a small enterprise

And why do you belittle the mans life work - I think building a company that turns over 16.3m a year is quite an achievement

I dont mind seeing you pointing out valid faults of the Raes but sometimes you have a go and make fun of them just for the sake of it

You are a boring and predictable sad old man who seems to have a personal grudge against the Rae's

Well MortonHag we have heard it all before , why dont you dissapear for a while again and give us all peace

I appreciate that son, but bear in mind you're the same age as my youngest child, and my oldest who's still only thirty one is heading up three businesses with a turnover of several million. He started off less than four years ago.

I'm not in any way belittling Mr Rae's undoubted achievement-not many folk have the energy in their late seventies to knock their pans in every day God sends, and I do hope he has a long and enjoyable retirement when it comes.

Things must be seen in perspective young man-that is all!
mortonjag 2008-05-21 19:39:46
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 21 2008, 07:28 PM) [snapback]450190[/snapback]
happy birthday, clearly

His birthday was two weeks ago.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 19:43:35
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 21 2008, 07:32 PM) [snapback]450193[/snapback]
Alaska Sandra was indeed married in Newfoundland

That is extremely true.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 19:45:40
QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 21 2008, 07:39 PM) [snapback]450196[/snapback]
That should of course have said "pilates." tongue.gif

pilots? to tug you in?
mortonjag 2008-05-22 06:34:40
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 21 2008, 07:48 PM) [snapback]450201[/snapback]
come on boys, i'm sure your imaginations aren't so 'small'

Guess they were watching the Champions League Final Trumpet-pity about the Terry's All Gold penalty-I thought the pensioners thoroughly deserved it.

Some will simply see this as size matters.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 06:36:30
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 21 2008, 07:45 PM) [snapback]450199[/snapback]
Jesus said it BTW

laugh.gif

Welcome back!

How's the faithers' sweetie factory BTW?
mortonjag 2008-05-22 06:46:36 I sincerely believe that women should be allowed to play if they can demonstrate that they are good enough. I think the same should apply to Rugby League-indeed even to the 'world's Strongest man' contest.

I have absolutely no problem with the Sheila's wheels enterprise-I find their policies are very competitive, and my also named driver, Granny Fanny Aitken has never had an accident in 94 years apart from the seven weans and the chip pan fire.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 06:53:52
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 21 2008, 10:49 PM) [snapback]450256[/snapback]
Aye, to err is human, to make an arse of yourself is Devine.

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QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 21 2008, 11:49 PM) [snapback]450287[/snapback]
I'm sure that piece of s*** and excuse for a human being Laidlaw was enjoying himself whilst plying the young men and women with drink and drugs before sexually abusing them.


I doubt very much if they were enjoying the experience as he undoubtaby did going by the frequent trips he made to Monte Carlo. And I also doubt very much Laidlaw gave them a second thought or cared what they felt for that matter.

You really get very worked up about some things Spurtle!

Your second paragraph probably applies to 75% of sexually active males worldwide!

It's nice to know that Mrs Spurtle comes in a different category. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-22 07:19:51
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 22 2008, 12:57 AM) [snapback]450310[/snapback]
Then why has Jim McColls name been heralded as the man in charge ? According to the club he was incharge if you are saying you can't believe everything the club puts out then that validates this thread even more so .
Look at it from a neutral point of view , he is listed of the head of our pro - youth or was which at best is not on a par with similar clubs our size ( see being really nice without going into my usual rant ) he freely admits to having no prior knowledge of running such a set up , he is also on the board to represent the Trust .

Now do you not think it was a huge error of judgement for the guy to put his name to something when he has little or no knowledge of that organisation .

Do you not think that the representative on the board from the Trust should be asking question on behalf of supporters why this thing occurred nevermind him being apart of it .

Do you not think it puts the Trust in a negative light when the representative is seen at the head of this system .

Jim McColl , who as far as I know has never pretended to be an expert in running the set up , so did he volunteer ? or was he asked ? How did he attain this position .
I would say that no matter how he became involved it does but another question mark for me about the chairmans decision making .

Its all to easy to blame McInally , he had an assistant who could have done a similar role as to what Derek Collins proposes to do .

I have never met Jim McColl and assume he's a thoroughly decent guy who admirably fulfils his figurehead status.

The re-vamped board now consists of Steptoe and Son, the said figurehead, and the ubiquitous Alistair Donald who appears to say even less than the figurehead, but was quoted in Shoogly's mouthpiece, many months back as 'being there in an advisory capacity', and 'I won't be investing at this stage'! wink.gif

Alistair Donald is apparently an EXTREMELY astute businessman, and don't imagine he'd be bothered with petty wheeling and dealing of the Scott genre.

What's the score folks? unsure.gif


mortonjag 2008-05-22 07:40:44 Middle managers could go and savings of £50m found from its budget as Scotland's largest local authority begins its financial planning against a backdrop of economic uncertainty.

For the first time, Glasgow City Council is publishing its financial forecast for the next two years and is seeking the input of all political groups to better explain the economic climate it is operating in.

In all, it will cut £25m, or 2.5%, from its budgets across each of the next two financial years to balance the books, beginning its planning nine months before the budget is published.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 09:17:31
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 22 2008, 08:44 AM) [snapback]450344[/snapback]
75% of the population don't ply young men and women who trade as prostitutes with drink and drugs then defile them.

The Tory Party know all about Laidlaw, but are quite happy to take his donations and quite happy to turn a blind eye to the exploitation of those men and women.

Then you have the complete hypocrisy of Tory Tom going on about Souter..... blink.gif

Spurtle, I don't think we're exactly talking about those poor wee souls down Anderston way-the Christine Keelers and Mandy Rice Davises have always been there and happy to exploit the amorality of high profile politicians of all parties.

Now let me say categorically that I'm making no allegations here, but if I discovered that Mr Salmond regularly paid rent boys a handsome fee, it would surprise me none.

Nor would it surprise me if he has only had one sexual partner throughout his existence.

Which do you suspect is more probable-if either? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-22 09:20:35
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ May 22 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]450345[/snapback]
and next your going to explain to us how its all Dougie Rae's fault, whoever you are tongue.gif

Don't be ridiculous-Rae's cowboy outfit is much smaller than the Provost's.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 10:21:39
QUOTE(AyrAndy @ May 22 2008, 10:14 AM) [snapback]450361[/snapback]
Dean has signed on at Somerset Park after a succesful loan period last season.

Joining him at Somerset are new signings, Scott Walker (Brechin), Scott Agnew (Alloa), Bryan Prunty (Airdrie), Ryan Borris (Raith), Chris Aitken (Stirling) and Allan Dempsie (Elgin).

Still on the lookout for a new keeper, thank f*ck it won't be McGurn

Good luck to the Deano-more sinned against than sinning!
mortonjag 2008-05-22 11:17:59
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ May 21 2008, 06:31 PM) [snapback]450144[/snapback]
Neil?

Yes it is a great shame that the situation has not changed, and I accept your thoughts on who should go to who, however, as you will be aware the situation regarding the unsold tickets for last seasons cup game at Annan was totally whitewashed by the Club. When a junior team can be gracious enough to offer us a third of the money (when it wasn't really their problem) and our own Club dismiss the idea out of hand it leaves a sour taste.
Bascialy, if the Club had agreed to refund £100 this situation would not have arisen, indeed had our letter received a reply, the situation may not have arisen.

There are of course several other "incidents" when the Club did not exactly cover themselves in glory ("incidents" old and new) which have also contributed to the decision to maintain our withdrawal of sponsorship. I do not intend to air these "incidents" on here. but I think that the refund issue is generally widely known.




'The Club' as everyone knows but some refuse to admit = DDFR.

QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ May 21 2008, 09:43 PM) [snapback]450237[/snapback]
Unfortunatley that aint ever gonna happen , Certain people at the club too stubborn to admit they were wrong .

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QUOTE(Patg @ May 21 2008, 11:03 PM) [snapback]450261[/snapback]
This lack of refunding of £100 has now cost the club thousands...
The PR at the club is non -exisentent ...
Maybe appointing a Fans Liason officer to be the go between would be a good idea

But as Ronnie says to many other things have been said and done that have made feelings between a very loyal group of fans and the Morton hierarchy very very raw..
And also as Scott said there are certain people at the club being very stubborn and in my opinion very rude and ignorant ..
I know these people read this website so if they have there version to give please feel free to reply on here or on youre own website ...
A few other members of our club who normally take groups of friends in to hospitality a few times a season have been boycotting as well ...

So you guys can do there sums refusing a £100 refund has cost Morton football club 10 grand+ and counting ...

Pat G
Ton Till I Die

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mortonjag 2008-05-22 11:24:59
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 22 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]450395[/snapback]
Transparency is what is called for . As was posted on this site about the total monies raised and expenditure for the supporters match .

I cannot see why the club would not accomadate the Trust or supporters associations like the Gourock who seem to do alot of good fundraising for the benefit of the club .

I honestly can't see where the problem is in doing this , although when it comes to the youth set up the club seems to think its all too much effort .

(Away for a lay down before I go on rant mode yet again rolleyes.gif )

Not very good with those photographic terms-is that the same as exposure?
mortonjag 2008-05-22 11:32:30
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 22 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]450369[/snapback]
I have a copy of an offer in front of me but it is confidential at the moment. I do however feel that the administrators may be going to try to bounce the creditors into accepting another rip-off, to put it mildly. This may not be unconnected with the fact that the SPL were paying Wilson Field huge sums of money to keep the ball rolling, but the money tap was turned off on Saturday as the SPL season had finished (apart from the extension for a few teams due to exceptional circumstances). Wilson Field won't want this matter to continue any longer than necessary now because their cash cow is now several pounds of mince, and there is no money to pay any more fees that they may accrue.

I have made my views known to Mr Elliot and suggested to him an alternative course of action that would mean a much bigger payout to creditors - any payout would be bigger than nothing. I believe he is duty bound to consider all the options although any decision is I think a matter for decision at a full meeting of all the creditors, which meeting requires a minimum of 14 days' notice. If apathy rules then they may get away with it, but if a reasonable number of creditors are prepared to make their views known, then it may be to their advantage financially.

As I have said all along, this whole business stinks to high heaven.

Edited to add: I have been told that one of Craig Mileson's friends on facebook is...... Paul Davies. Now there's a coincidence.

I said from the outset you were being 'raped'. It doesn't feel very pleasant, does it, especially when everybody else seems to be standing aside and watching it happen with a glaicet leer!

You know something Alibi-sometimes the only way to deal with c*nts like that is by taking the law into your own hands-they understand those things better I can assure you. Just be careful to cover your tracks. They understand that too.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 11:36:47
QUOTE(jackton @ May 22 2008, 10:51 AM) [snapback]450384[/snapback]
I used to play football for a ladies team (many years ago when it wasn't so readily accepted), and also played 5 a-sides with guys in my work. They quite enjoyed having a couple of young, slim (back then) females run around with them! (Except one guy, nicknamed "Rawmeat" who hated the thought of girlies being able to compete and broke the ankle of the other girl). Thoroughly enjoyed both but entirely different experiences. I'll probably get shot down by all the womens rights people for this but I don't think women should play 11 a-side in the same team as men. There are some very talented women out there and playing amongst men, with their greater body mass/ physical strength could stiffle their ability. Not saying women can't play as well as men, but you need to compare like with like.

Next point... women expecting to be paid the same as men for doing the same job... I worked in a male dominated enviroment and got paid more than most of them because I was better at the job than they were!! Heaven forbid!

Last point.... I would love to stay at home as a homemaker/housewife but I'm not allowed... Him indoors just won't hear of it otherwise I could sit on this forum all day.

Him indoors claims otherwise-the poor sod hardly posts now-up to his eyes in nappies, dishes, shopping, ironing etc., while you gad aboot the work! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-22 11:42:59
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 22 2008, 10:31 AM) [snapback]450366[/snapback]
No prostitute is in that particular game because they enjoy it. Laidlaw totally exlpoited them for his own sexual gratification.
But the Tories don't care about the Laidlaw's of this world. They only see the Laidlaws £millions coming into the party coffers. Then have the effrontery to point the finger at others who are not even in the same gutter league as Laidlaw !

You've clearly been meeting with the unhappy ones Spurtle!

As the guy who ran the Partick Pumping Station used to say 'Some folk think it's just sh*te, but it's my bread and butter'! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-22 11:47:35
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ May 22 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]450401[/snapback]
Interesting comment. But if one of the other mob had suggested the same, referring to the good Bishop Devine would it have been as funny to a man of your faith? I have no axe to grind either way, but you cannae have it both ways.

John Knox did not live in those enlightened days, nor did he have a handsome Bishopric to maintain.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 11:50:54 Will you be sporting a green P? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-22 11:54:36
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 22 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]450421[/snapback]
No, i have green L plates. And i intend doing the pass plus.

Excellent-I do have to say that young women of your age appear more mature than the male counterpart.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 12:06:19
QUOTE(Greacenonmyass @ May 22 2008, 11:30 AM) [snapback]450406[/snapback]
As you cannnot be fully aware of the circumstances behind this incident, how can you be in full agreement? Just a cheap swipe at 'certain people' at Morton in my view. mad.gif

Just a cheap swipe at Mr Rae don't you mean?

Not the sort of thing he's used to, the poor old soldier.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 12:12:00 Despite his great end to the season, I'd be quite happy to see Kev go to pastures new-particularly if 'the club' is playing silly buggers with him.

Funny how just when Kev decided he was a striker, the Tilly labels him a 'pacey winger' or was that supposed to be whinger?

Good luck to the boy either way.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 12:14:23
QUOTE(Greacenonmyass @ May 22 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]450433[/snapback]
Publc knowledge on a messageboard? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif You mean hear say!

You mean 'hearsay' Muz.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 12:22:26
QUOTE(jackton @ May 22 2008, 11:57 AM) [snapback]450428[/snapback]
And another thing... I called Diamond Insurance (for women) many years ago, they were a bit pricey and when I commented on it the bloke said if I could get a man on my policy it would bring it down a bit!! Cheek!

Dear Mortonjag,
Him indoors has an allergy to whatever nappies are made from, washing up liquid, soap powder, ironing boards, hoovers, polish etc (and rubber gloves)... is there anything you could prescibe for him?

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I've discovered that those specific allergies are infinitely more prevalent in the male.I suspect it's in the genes! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-22 12:24:57
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 22 2008, 12:06 PM) [snapback]450432[/snapback]
You don't get it. Soapy has a problem with what consenting adults do in their own chambers, that's really immoral.
Tartan rubber!

Scotland, twinned wie Saudi Arabia.

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mortonjag 2008-05-22 12:49:18
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 22 2008, 12:19 PM) [snapback]450440[/snapback]
Why? Here's the last line from MJ of the message I was responding to:- "Would you care to do the same, or do you prefer to hide up Mr Rae's arse?"

Would YOU accept that from the old duffer without responding appropriately (and do it without resorting to personal slurs, as I managed to do)?

'Nuff said, end of.

You have not answered my question-I merely asked!

Now to calling respectable posters 'old duffer'-I'd describe that as personal abuse, though I'd never dream of whinging to the Mods about it.

If you have facts and information to contradict any of the statements I have ever made openly and not anonymously about Mr Rae, it would be good to hear them, along with your identity. I have a significant quantity of private information to support every allegation I have ever made. That is kept private to protect confidentiality, though it may interest you to know that I regularly share p.m.'s with over twenty others-many of whom, for one or another reason, cannot be so forthright on this forum.

I think the majority of posters is coming round to the idea that 'the club' is stagnating, and clearly needs substantial inward investment before David Irons loses heart under the present regime.

Mortonjag is happy to see the clingons gradually dig themselves deeper into the sh*t. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-22 12:57:08
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 22 2008, 12:42 PM) [snapback]450454[/snapback]
I wouldn't descend to their level.

I fully understand and respect that, but that is the mentality/morality on which those plankton thrive.

It is their bible Alibi-in a devious way you'd get more respect from them if you paid for a couple of 'hits' and couldn't be impeached.

Rape would never be inevitable if all ladies carried guns!
mortonjag 2008-05-22 13:07:53
QUOTE(InverAlly @ May 22 2008, 01:04 PM) [snapback]450465[/snapback]

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somebody having an identity crisis? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-22 13:10:42
QUOTE(Patg @ May 22 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]450456[/snapback]
Just to give some people who dont know what happened I will tell you about what happened regarding what happened regarding tkt refund incident ...

A memember of our travel club returned £300 of tkts from the Annan game and according to people at the club he was to late to return them and refuse to refund us the £300 to us which is a lot of money to a small travel club ...

We then contacted Annan with regarding what had happened they said they would forward us £100 as long as Morton did the same and we took a hit of £100 which reluctently agreed to but Morton refused to give us a £100 and refused to bring it up at board level ...

Annan sent us £100 which we returned and thanked them and told them to donate it to there youth set up which they did sent us a letter of thanks for our kind donation ...

We imformed Morton of what Annan had done and still no refund ...

We have lots of correspondence from Morton which we felt was getting worse and worse so at our AGM after that year the incident was discussed nd the boycott was decided ...

We imformed the club regarding the boycott and they replied by return that as we were boycotting we had therefore cut all our ties with the club ...

We now have hospitallity days in Slanj which anyone is welcome to join and it is a fantastic day for a fraction of the price ..

As I said in my previous post we have few members who normally take up to 10 friends or more to hospitallity on a regular basis they nowvalso stopped going ...

So to conclude the club of now lost roughly 10 grand+ and counting all over £100 ...

If anyone wants anymore detail please pm me and i will ty to answer there question if I can ....

Pat G
Ton Till I Die



I think you've spelled it out very clearly Pat-thanks. Rae has an almost unparalleled ability to shoot himself in the foot while biting off the hand that feeds him.

No apologies to the mixed metaphor polis either.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 14:11:35
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 22 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]450490[/snapback]
From the French "Chambre"- a room. rolleyes.gif

Oui Monsieur le Bam je compris!


The rectum, or lowest chamber of the large bowel, is about eight inches long and serves, basically, as a warehouse for jobby. It hooks up with the sigmoid colon to the north and with the anal canal to the south.

The rectum has little shelves in it called transverse folds. These folds help keep stool in place until you're ready to go to the bathroom. When you're ready, stool enters the lower rectum, moves into the anal canal, and then passes through the anus on its way out-after which it's laissez faire! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-22 14:16:30
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 22 2008, 01:58 PM) [snapback]450492[/snapback]
Happy Birthday all including baldy

You have been duly reported to the big Polis mod for non PC behaviour-I hope you feel the full weight of his truncheon.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 14:30:07
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 22 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]450472[/snapback]
1. That wasn't a question, it was personal abuse.
2. That wasn't personal abuse, it was a statement of fact. tongue.gif
3. Errr, who whinged to the Mods? Not me, so what's your point, caller? Naah, don't bother answering, there isn't one, you're a Jag without a point.
4. Here we go again with the "I have the facts and information but have to keep them confidential" - if you can't disclose your info, then kindly stop alluding to it; anyone can make allegations and slanted comments but, without anything being made available to substantiate them, then as I said yesterday it amounts to little more than piss and wind.
5. hmm, first it was remarks about Dougie Rae's erse, now it's remarks about clingons digging into the sh*t - you're coming across as a potty-mouthed old bore with an anal fixation.
6. Since you are privy (pardon the pun!) to so many of life's secrets, please tell us - who really shot JFK??

DDFR, maybe?? ohmy.gif

Well, trying to joke your way out of the hole you just dug is at least a wee bit more intelligent than the usual clingon response.

The fact is son (does that sound patronising or what?) that I was repeatedly verbally abused by much wittier and more intelligent posters than you in my early days of criticising Mileson, McInally, AND Rae.

Fortunately the sharper tools in the box are now at the master craftsman's disposal!

Just one final point-despite your wee sticky oot tongue-I DID only pose a question.

Calling a man of my qualifications, experience, and incredibly superior intelligence an 'old duffer' I'd suggest is similar to calling Auld Shoogly a Fudgy Wudgy.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 14:34:43
QUOTE(InverAlly @ May 22 2008, 01:11 PM) [snapback]450471[/snapback]
Shut it Jim... laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-05-22 14:40:37
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ May 22 2008, 01:51 PM) [snapback]450487[/snapback]
The post from Pat quite obviously states that the issue was not brought up at boardroom level, so surely Rae would not have had any say in it. I would imagine it would be the Commercial Manager who would be the one making these decisions. Would I be correct in these assumptions?

Happy birthday young man.

Decisions at Cappielow involving more than the most trivial expenditure have to be sanctioned by the Chairman. That is COMMON KNOWLEDGE even to those on the periphery.

I was once informed on this forum by an 'insider' that Rae has to sanction even the purchase of toilet rolls.

mortonjag 2008-05-22 14:42:55
QUOTE(InverAlly @ May 22 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]450496[/snapback]
How do you get a fat burd into bed?
Piece of cake!

Poke of the famous black striped balls!
mortonjag 2008-05-22 15:02:14
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 22 2008, 02:54 PM) [snapback]450522[/snapback]
No I get it ! Laidlaw's actions of sexualy exploiting young men and women whilst plying them with drugs is a far more serious action than someone who was simply against the repeal of Section 2A.

You do seem almost obsessed with this Spurtle. It strikes me that most young men happily ply their intended sexual partners with alcohol every weekend.

Are you suggesting that Laidlaw was illegally drugging his 'victims' a la mini Shipman?
mortonjag 2008-05-22 15:06:05
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 22 2008, 02:59 PM) [snapback]450525[/snapback]
He must stay. We couldn't get anyone to fill that position last season. Finlayson was one of our most important players last season. He has proved he can play at this level.

No harm to Kev, but now that we've beefed up the midfield, I'd happily trade him for a proper winger any day.

He's been a superb servant, and never hid when others did-for that he deserves huge credit.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 15:10:09
QUOTE(JonaTon @ May 22 2008, 12:55 AM) [snapback]450309[/snapback]
St. Mirren, Birmingham City, Liverpool, Juventus.

Hugh.Scott, Steven McGarry, Billy McNeil, Archie McPherson, Andy Millen, Owen Coyle (when he played against us), Paul Tait, Colin Hardie, Ian Ferguson (all of them), Aiden McGeady, Davie Provan, Jimmy Greaves, Ian Wright, Graeme Souness, Mark Lawrenson, Hugh Keevins, Gerry McNee, Jim Traynor, Jamie Carragher (mainly for his thick scouse accent).

Obstruction passed off as shielding the ball as it runs out of play.
Cristiano Ronaldo stopping in his penalty run up.
Goalkeepers coming off their line at penalties.
Players suspended for finals because of a booking in a semi-final.
Referees not getting the wall back the full distance.
Players time wasting by either taking the ball to the corner flag or taking ages to take throw ins or goalkicks.

I was going to say I hated nothing about the beautiful game until I spotted that.

Truly an embarrassment to Scottish football.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 15:13:57
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 22 2008, 03:09 PM) [snapback]450530[/snapback]

Is that the bumpkins' version of the Tilly?
mortonjag 2008-05-22 15:46:56
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 22 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]450536[/snapback]
Agreed, re the beer, and I'm bored with this now - I usually just ignore him, and I think I'll return to that strategy. Life's too short, so from now on I'll try to confine MJ and his buffonery [sic] (and he IS sick) to the lowest level of my consciousness, maybe in the pigeonhole next to Jade Goody - serves her right.

My point throughout this nonsense has been simply this: it's exceedingly boring to have someone continually sniping from the sidelines at the running of the club and those who run it. It's easy to disparage people and what they have done/haven't done/are alleged to have done, and that is what MJ does on far too many occasions for my liking - hence my "deja vu" comment near the start of this thread.

Constructive criticism is one thing, and there's no doubt at all that certain things, maybe MANY things, could be done better at Cappielow, but I doubt that there's a club in the country where the supporters are happy with all aspects of their board's performance - this season alone the boards of Hearts, both halves of the OF, Kilmarnock, Motherwell (even though they finished THIRD), Aberdeen, Dundee, Dunfermline, Partick, East Stirling (!) and of course Gretna have been pilloried by their support, and I've no doubt that every club forum like this one has its own wee dose of MortonJag types - but if someone wants to raise an issue than why not do it in a balanced, evenhanded and analytical way - ie, without the sarcasm, the cynicism and the veiled hints of malpractice and misbehavior that MJ harps on about but has never yet shown any evidence of. What's wrong with just asking a civil question in a civil manner??

A meeting with the board, tho? Fat chance of MJ seeking that, based on past behaviour - he needs a messageboard profile (or two??!!) to hide behind, he ain't brave enough to stick his head above the parapet in person.

RIGHT, about that beer.......

You won't be revealing your identity then? laugh.gif

Pray, before you resort to the usual ungracious method of defeat (your post is almost a carbon copy of dozens over the last three years pretending to be 'bored', will you answer a genuine question?

Are you satisfied with Mr Rae's stewardship of the club over the last three seasons?

Oh and don't forget the wee huff button if all else fails! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-22 15:57:26
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ May 22 2008, 03:41 PM) [snapback]450545[/snapback]
Get yer own stories ya bam.
The home strip has broader hoops than last year with white panels at the sides, with the hoops being a darkish blue, similar to the Vandanel one. It's an absolute cracker imo, as long as it doesn't end up looking more like a faded grey like last years did then it's our best strip in ages.
Third strip is white with a thickish blue strip at a bit of an angle down one side and on to the shirts. Also rather nice smile.gif

Unless I read it wrong, the sign said they were out in July, which is frankly a joke and further proof of Morton's incompetence.



QUOTE(midTONs @ May 22 2008, 03:50 PM) [snapback]450555[/snapback]
Smiths run the commercial side of Morton's affairs and that includes the replica strips, if you mean Morton should be taking control back and getting the strips out earlier then thats a totally different matter but in my opinion it would be strips for Christmas not the summer holidays then.



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mortonjag 2008-05-22 16:00:02
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 22 2008, 03:46 PM) [snapback]450549[/snapback]
Suppose this is a fairly obvious thing to say, but did you not break them in first. I bought new boots as well and was out playing footy with my son and his mates for about a fortnight to break mine in.

Jesus-thae weans nowadays sure have big feet!
mortonjag 2008-05-22 16:12:45 Having a pop at the Midden is surely all in good fun but it's arrant nonsense to suggest that in reality Paisley Buddies are really any different from Greenockians, Kilmarnock folk, or even Airdrieonians.

That, however, is merely the opinion of an arrogant old fud who supported the Ton throughout his schooldays in Paisley, and can state CATEGORICALLY that the current level of rivalry and 'hatred' is part and parcel of the new breed of football fan. Furthermore the majority of my school mates supported the Huns and there was actually a kind of bond among all those who did not.

Nowadays everybody has to be able to sing 'We are the ******* haters'!

Truth is that in the fifties and before, Killie were probably seen by Ton fans as greater rivals than the Skunks.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 16:15:29
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 22 2008, 04:02 PM) [snapback]450567[/snapback]
Its the cemetary actually. rolleyes.gif

The burial ground-even!
mortonjag 2008-05-22 16:27:41
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ May 22 2008, 04:03 PM) [snapback]450568[/snapback]
Put it this way: If Golden Casket had a distribution deal with, say, Woolworths, and came up with a new ice-cream bar, they would want it in the shops for the start of the summer, when people are going to be wanting such things, but Woolworths turned round and said "Nope, sorry, we'll start selling them in October", I can guarantee Dougie would be demanding answers as to why.

That being so, why does he feel it is acceptable that the people running Morton's affairs do the same thing by not having strips out until after the season has started, and a significant number of people have been on holidays and so on?

Whoever is in charge of selling the stuff is besides the point. The bottom line is that it is GMFC who have the ultimate control over club merchandise, and they should be looking to get their stuff out at the earliest opportunity, not just when they can be arsed.
*This is all assuming the sign did say July, btw, and not June. I'm sure it did though!
PS - I could have taken a pic, aye, but was in a rush. I wonder what Morton's excuse is for yet again failing to utilise their website.



QUOTE(midTONs @ May 22 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]450575[/snapback]
I totally agree with you mate, it's like you say holding back the new ice-cream and instead of releasing it in the summer releasing it at Christmas.

I've said on here countless times, the new designs for the strips should be decided months before the end of the season and the new replica strips should be on sale at the last home game of the season giving people the maximum time to wear and enjoy the new tops.

but it seems that would be to easy to do, it's like most things at Morton if they don't forget to do it the leave it until the last minute, believe me I've witnessed it first hand.



QUOTE(EanieMeany @ May 22 2008, 04:16 PM) [snapback]450579[/snapback]
Bang on, particularly 2 seasons ago when we had just won the league. If the club had any sense they would have had the strips ready for launch at the Stranraer game, or at least the supporters night in the Sports Centre.

It's a total farce down Cappielow way, the sooner someone is allowed to come in and give the place a good overhaul behind the scenes then we're going to have to put up with this kind of nonsense every year.

Good gracious gentlemen I really hope you can PROVE those scurrilous allegations-I mean we all know that not all is well at Cappielow, but really!

Anyway, I think I'll be missing out on my season ticket book this year after the total farce last time. It's hardly a saving anyhow-the club gets all the money up front, publishes your e-mail address for all to see, has them printed by some other Steptoe and Son sweatshop doon South wi' a leaky roof, and then has the cheek to say they won't be valid for- bloody well ANYTHING except league matches!

Sorry, but it's PAYG from now on and I won't have to tolerate those leering buffoons four rows in front of me in the Directors' box like flies round a keech!

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mortonjag 2008-05-22 16:32:40
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ May 22 2008, 04:27 PM) [snapback]450587[/snapback]
He can beat a man and he can cross a ball, maby not perfect every time but he gives 100% every game and never stops running. To say he's torture is a shocker, im not going on the last 2 games of the seaosn im going on the whole of the season and in my opinion he has been one of the top players all season.

We could agree to disagree on this all day but i just think it's a bit s***e to be on lower wages than most of the first team squad.
He might not get a start next season once Irons brings in his new ideas and players but Kev should be on the bench if anything.

I would agree except that funds are limited and Irons has to put together a 'small squad of quality players'.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 18:18:56
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 22 2008, 04:37 PM) [snapback]450590[/snapback]
heh heh - "the usual ungracious method of defeat"?? Ahhh, so everyone else is wrong, and MJ is right....... somehow I think not. Some of us have lives away from "general Morton nonsense", and besides I find it tedious to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.......

In answer to your question, I was happy to see us get promoted back to the division we should be in. The board deserve credit for getting us there, albeit eventually. The fans didn't do it, the players did - and their being here is due to the board.

The club, I believe, is in the black, and is probably one of relatively few in Scottish football in that position. That position is largely due to the financial backing of Golden Casket, a "wee sweetie firm" (according to you) run by people whose name escapes me, and as a Morton fan I appreciate their overall input. Good to see people put their time and effort AND money towards advancing the club, albeit in the ways that THEY see fit - but if you pay the piper you call the tune.

The general condition of the ground, the facilities there and the floodlights have all improved markedly over the last three years, and all at a considerable cost - it's a fact that the visible improvements are disproportionately low in relation to the unseen costs involved, as I'm sure Alibi would agree.

So much for the good side. The bad.......?

Like many others, I cringe when Dougie takes the microphone and addresses the support (ESPECIALLY that time he couldn't get the damn thing to work, and Cappie the bloody Cat had to help him out). It's not big, and it's not clever - STOP IT NOW.

The public relations side still leaves much to be desired - we're all on the same side, for gawd's sake (or MOST of us, at least), and things like the withdrawal of a supporter's club from sponsoring Morton FC because of a dispute over £100 (as described in another current thread) are damaging and regrettable - and avoidable. I don't know if that was originally down to the Raes or not, but I do feel they should've stepped in when the thing escalated and was brought to their attention and done something to maintain the support and goodwill of the supporter's club.

The decision to remove the previous management team should have been taken by the board weeks, if not months, before the acceptance of the resignation of those individuals. Failure to act earlier almost cost our club their place in the First Division, and I'm less than impressed by their performance on that issue - loyalty to individuals can be admirable, but in this case it was allowed to cloud the realities of the situation and almost cost the club - and therefore the Raes - a great deal of money. And to criticise the support for making their feelings known and "hounding the manager out" was a PR disaster on Dougie's part.

So, some good, and some bad. There's yer answers, pal - now, before we bore the rest of the punters into oblivion, let's give it a rest. And in future, when you have questions to ask about the running of the club, try doing it without so much animosity and negativity - maybe you'll get a better reception than you generally do at present.

Now, why do I feel re that last comment that I would've been better advised to cut out the middle man and just go stoat my head directly off the brick wall.......


You make some valid points but clearly feel you have a God given right to decide what is justified and what is not when it comes to criticism of Morton. It's also evident that you don't have the information I have, yet you are happy to call me a liar, and attempt to belittle my genuine reasons for not breaching confidentiality. I have identified myself, but you haven't the balls to do the same. Until you do you remain a complete nobody in my eyes!.

Just one point of correction-the fact that we're still in Division One is NOT down to the players, and it's most certainly not down to the Board, aka Mr Rae, who would now have us back in division 2 if he'd had his way. The only person to thank is JM, and of course the totally serendipitous coincidence of his departure with DI/DC needing a new job pronto. It's also ludicrous to suggest that the fans had no input. They were well worth that twelfth man at Firhill, and without the fans there would be no Morton-simple-even if Mr Rae seems to have tried in every conceivable way to alienate the paying customer.

You accuse me of going on ad nauseam, when the truth is that I start a legitimate thread, making legitimate points, and asking legitimate questions based on observation and information, only to be attacked by a series of Jag assassins. The Jag's still alive and kicking!

Well sonny, you're the new kid on the block, and my advice to you is this-sure-go and knock your pretty little head off that brick wall-it might be good therapy, though you'll have to extract it from your rectum first! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-22 18:26:57 Taken from the Alloa Advertiser regarding Stevenson's availability:

"Because my injury kept me out of the side the boss has made it clear I will be allowed to leave Morton if another club comes in for me, even on loan.

"The thing is, our chairman Douglas Rae has said no to this. I suppose he wants some of the £17,000 they paid Alloa back."


Shock-horror-player claims Rae countermands his manager!

Now had Mortonjag DARED to suggest something like that-eh Maccaboy!

F*cking liability of a Chairman! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-22 18:30:21
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ May 22 2008, 05:38 PM) [snapback]450622[/snapback]
More people than DDFR were at fault here MJ

I've never suggested that Cappielow is staffed by a hive of competent industry Scotty, but you know as well as I do who always has the final say.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 18:36:06
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ May 22 2008, 05:09 PM) [snapback]450602[/snapback]
Don't you mean Buffons? Or is all that nonsense finished with now?

No I DON'T mean 'Buffons'. I sincerely hope that nonsense IS finished, and I understand Tontastic is still trying to establish who was responsible.

Next question! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-22 18:46:46
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 22 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]450653[/snapback]
Finlayson looking abroad for a contract

Kev canny even cross a ball, never mind the road!
mortonjag 2008-05-22 18:51:11
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 22 2008, 05:04 PM) [snapback]450600[/snapback]
Just young men?

Well I guess you'd have to define 'young' before I could answer. In my experience the more mature variety approach le shagging with a little more subtlety if no less desire.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 18:53:42
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 22 2008, 06:32 PM) [snapback]450664[/snapback]
manchersterton, you must be a helluva wee, the only guy ever to call GibbyTon big man is Puggsy and Ive saw bigger walking sticks than him.

Careful, careful--- you may offend little ones!
mortonjag 2008-05-22 18:58:02
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 22 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]450685[/snapback]
As usual he is talkin bollox. He has no interest in nationalism. Never had never will.

And just for the record. I'm NOT a member of the SNP.

That does come as a surprise Spurtle-does Bawheid know this?
mortonjag 2008-05-22 19:11:10
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ May 22 2008, 06:54 PM) [snapback]450691[/snapback]
Thing is, Alex and Ryan are both 24, relatively inexperienced and likely to improve.
Finlayson is 28, has been playing first team football for about 10 years and isn't going to be anything more than he currently is.
Of course the younger guys with potential should get paid more than some journeyman. Kevin is a worker, thats it. Guys that can run up and down a line all day are ten a penny, we need someone with a bit of intelligence who is capable of putting in good crosses consistently and is able to use the ball well instead of just running blindly until he loses the ball or runs out of pitch. Finlayson, frankly, possesses none of those traits.

Correct-Kev has a fantastic work rate, but apart from his wee purple patch at the season's end, he was a dead loss AS AN ATTACKER, and we now have several more capable midfielders. In a larger squad I'd love to see him stay, but if we're going to get a real winger instead, that's forward thinking IMO.

QUOTE(neilly @ May 22 2008, 06:57 PM) [snapback]450695[/snapback]
u have got to be winding me up???

the amount of times he kicks and aimlessly runs is phenominal!!!

mcguffie has pedigree he just hasnt came good yet, this is a guy that cut it in the spl, kev couldnt sell pies there!!

its not about other players its about kev.

the reason he doesnt run at his man is because he cant!!!!!!!!!!

That's maybe a wee bit unfair-he successfully makes a real pest of himself and has some full backs in a tizzy-then when he breaks free he doesn't seem to have a clue what to do next.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 19:19:38
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 22 2008, 07:07 PM) [snapback]450710[/snapback]
rolleyes.gif he wants some money back for a guy we paid for Shock-horror rolleyes.gif

It was his beloved JM who wasted Stevenson-OK the boy has to carry some responsibility too.

Why is Irons-'the gaffer' telling his player one thing, only to find his decision thwarted.

JM may not have been the sharpest tool in the box but a year ago 75% still had complete faith in the guy. He wasn't ALL bad, despite his subsequent crucifiction by those who were previously up his arse-he latterly completely lost heart, and the same will happen to Irons sooner rather than later if he's not given enough scope to be his own man.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 19:30:18
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 22 2008, 07:21 PM) [snapback]450723[/snapback]
Personal experience? ohmy.gif

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No Mr Bam-this quasimodo's modus operandi has never changed since the student days-pick the least attractive burd-get her pished-and Bob's yer uncle!

Don't tell my partner BTW-he'd be utterly horrified.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 06:18:27 Free central heating for all elderly Scots abandoned
Health Secretary Nicola Sturgeon was forced to announce yesterday that universal provision of free central heating for the elderly was being abandoned in favour of a more targeted approach to provision.

Common sense prevails at last-just because you're of a certain age doesn't mean you're too poor, or too demented to know how to keep warm without central heating.

Pity the nickerless one didn't apply the same logic to her vote catching abolition of prescription charges.

Bound to get something right now and again I guess. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 06:24:18
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 22 2008, 09:04 PM) [snapback]450759[/snapback]
Without any swipe at the club , I think sometimes you should look at the bigger picture .

I remember someone who owned their own fairly successful retail business told me that sometimes even if he elt the customer was wrong he would take a long term view that it was better to keep them as a customer and be seen as being reasonable than losing a decent customer .

So I do sympathise that the ARTC members have had to take this sort of action .

Henry Ford once said-'You can have any colour as long as it is black'-even that great man had to change his plans to suit customer demand! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 06:31:20
QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 22 2008, 10:00 PM) [snapback]450781[/snapback]
That's a pretty outlandish claim. Care to elaborate? blink.gif

As Chrissiboi has said below

QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 22 2008, 10:10 PM) [snapback]450797[/snapback]
I think MJ is refering to the fact that McInally walked and Dougie was still in a huff days later that he lost his friend . If JM had the balls to stay (shiver at the thought ) then the outcome of the season wouldn't have been the same .
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QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 22 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]450810[/snapback]
YAWN.......

.......well, at least he got the "pretty little head" bit right....... laugh.gif
Anyway, to business.......

I don't call you a liar, auld yin; I DO think though that you are a shameless, scurillous rumourmonger, who alienates his audience and negates many of the points he makes by dint of a shamefully biased and unpleasant attitude.

And how have you identified yourself, did I miss that?? Actually, don't elaborate; I couldnt care less who/what/where you are.

hmm, so the players didn't keep us up?? JM and the support did?? REALLY??? blink.gif Tell me, what's the weather like on your home planet? Honestly, words fail me - I just wish they'd fail YOU....... I don't belittle the effect of the support; I'm part of it and was as impressed as anyone by the backing we gave them at Firhill, but really....... if it was all down to that, how did Hamilton win the League, how did Livingston and QoS do better than us and why did Dunfermline have such a miserable season? Reality check needed MJ!! The support may indeed be the "12th man" on occasion - but only on occasion - and that leaves 11 on the pitch to do the real work.......

By all means start your "legitimate threads", make your "legitimate points"; after all, I can easily go back to ignoring you if I choose - but for gawd's sake take the chip off your shoulder and you might get more favourable responses. And it's tiresome to continually see this "I'm important enough to have information about the club's owners but you're not important enough to share it" attitude from you. If you aren't going to share it, don't go on about it, because to the rest of us it might as well not exist. And maybe it doesn't. Put up, or shut up - and preferably the latter.......

.......now, go make yourself a cup of Complan and get to bed. Me, I'm going back to the real world, the smell of bulls*** from your posts is getting rather too ripe.

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Hope your mummy tucked you in nice and tight son-do you let her kiss you on the mouth?




QUOTE(SmithsTON @ May 22 2008, 10:55 PM) [snapback]450854[/snapback]
If you bothered your ar*e going to the Q&A session you could have asked DDF. Sniping from the sidelines as usual. Get a life. mad.gif

FFS it's not just the way you tell them Smiffy-the old ones are always the best!
mortonjag 2008-05-23 06:40:45 So the question remains largely unanswered-a few suggest Rae would never behave in an underhand way, while one poster has made so far unsubstantiated allegations about irregularities with a cheque.

The Jag's comments and question have been well publicised by the usual ignorant sniping of plooky weans (many thanks for the publicity children), but, AS ALWAYS, the facts from behind closed doors at Scapa come under the OMERTA banner.

Well Nach0-what's the beef with yon' cheque-that's one wee item the Jag still hasn't added to his bulging dossier-if you don't want to publish it you can always p.m. me and I promise a wee titbit in return! wink.gif

mortonjag 2008-05-23 06:56:15 Maybe the thread should have been entitled Shoogly's Skint-'cos let's face it-that's the real problem.

NOBODY has dared to argue that Kev should not have a rightful place in the squad-it's already becoming clear that Davie Irons is being sold short-FOR F*CK's SAKE folks-please DON'T let Rae treat us the way he did last closed season. Already folk are pointing out that some clubs have their new strip unveiled before the old one's over, the pre-season organisation is the usual shambles, and season ticket sales don't seem to have been mentioned-not that I'll be buying again. I'll not be surprised if sales are yet again down-but bear in mind we're only the second best supporters in the West of Scotland. wacko.gif

Another day-another go at Rae-well I always explain why. This man has become a liability. We have a wealthy potential investor on the board. It is time for change.

Time for unity in the face of a common enemy perhaps?
mortonjag 2008-05-23 06:59:11
QUOTE(rex manning @ May 23 2008, 12:10 AM) [snapback]450926[/snapback]
I forgot to thank Boozehound for calling me a hero. Finally i'm being aknowledged by 1 of the peers i respect. Even though he rates Finlayson.

urinators
mortonjag 2008-05-23 07:17:22
QUOTE(leyTON @ May 22 2008, 10:24 PM) [snapback]450808[/snapback]
both toppers, ruined though by the silly millions as ever, we need a new sponsor!
the 3rd looks too much like the training gear!



QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 23 2008, 01:06 AM) [snapback]450946[/snapback]
My sentiments exactly. That hideous millions logo makes the tops look cheap and tacky. "The tiny tasty chewy sweet?" Gimme a break. Being 30 and a grown man I refuse to wear a shirt with that logo. dry.gif

This close season is beginning to smack of this time last year, the feel-good factor produced by finishing the season on a high is slowly evaporating amidst a pretty poor pre-season fixture card, ongoing and unresolved dispauted between club and fans and uninspiring signings.

Fingers crossed things get better but I'm getting an awful sense of deja-vu which is why for the second year running I won't be buying a season ticket. sad.gif

Gentlemen-STOP IT-you will offend-don't you know that 'Millions' is a 'household name' and is manufactured by the 'biggest independent confectioner in Scotland' in a wee sweatshop at Fort Matilda, by Sir D. Douglas F. Rae, who is also Chairman and owner of Greenock Morton Football Club which he has loyally supported with his heart in the right place since he was seven and a quarter and the milk monitor in the Academy primary.

'Millions' has apparently even been on the telly adverts once or twice, yet LargsTON has the bare faced cheek to call the shirts 'cheap and tacky', while LeyTON attempts to belittle the great man's achievements with the word 'silly'.

I just get this uncomfortable feeling that some of you are jumping on the bandwagon.

Mortonjag is the only certified critic of Auld Shoogly-RIGHT! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 07:27:14
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 19 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]449025[/snapback]
Few mates from uni are Doonhamers and are going along. If I didn't have a pipe band comp that day I would probably went along for the bater too.

Mon the Queens biggrin.gif

that can be done in privacy MASTER Puggs.

QUOTE(plinth @ May 22 2008, 11:57 PM) [snapback]450918[/snapback]
Aye!

C'mon Queens.

Got to say am rather disappointed at the lack of coverage a 1st Division team has achieved in this part of the World.

The good luck thread even on this board has been lacklustre to say the least.

Maybe an indication of the lack of respect for our other 1st division teams or indeed verification of the fans who hold the Old Firm as their chosen 1st team?

Sorry Plinth, but you can't MAKE Ton fans very enthusiastic right now-we don't have a successful Chairman by the name of Mr Rae like you lucky folks.

I was at Hampden in a crowd of 106,000 when the Ton faced a similar daunting prospect-we'd gubbed Well, and Hibs, but the occasion was too big for us.

I'll be rooting for you tomorrow, and will be overjoyed if you can swing it, though I certainly won't be giving any money to the Bookie! smile.gif

PS-your second name wouldn't be Charles?
mortonjag 2008-05-23 07:30:58
QUOTE(TaunTon @ May 23 2008, 07:25 AM) [snapback]450966[/snapback]
Certified or certifiable?

Both my good friend-hence the highlighted text!

Hope you had a good one-you are becoming very aged n'est ce pas?
mortonjag 2008-05-23 07:36:02
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 22 2008, 10:44 PM) [snapback]450839[/snapback]
Don't ya rogue, burds always pick you, FACT.

Those of the vulcher variety I'd imagine!

Digressing completely-do you agree that the first aiders at Scapa look like hovering vulchers the minute a player goes down injured? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 07:42:04
QUOTE(JonaTon @ May 22 2008, 11:02 PM) [snapback]450865[/snapback]
Because they are.

One specific example would be when as a 17 year old I was spat on, hit with coins while grown men screamed in my face as I walked past a queue of St.Mirren fans before the game they won 4-1 at Cappielow in the season they won the league (1999/00). Don't tell me that's a friendly rivalry.

No it's not JonaTon-there are morons in every football crowd-NO club is immune to having local windows tanked in for example.

It IS, however, absolutely ludicrous IMHO, to suggest that the fans of any other provincial club are particularly blameworthy-those things tend to even out over the decades.

The OF-that is a different scenario, but even they have large sections of decent living supporters.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 07:44:29
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ May 22 2008, 11:00 PM) [snapback]450861[/snapback]
2 pounds on the dream number last night - yyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeessssssssssssss

Question is - should I just quit now and live on the interest or what?

What would you do with it?

Send it over Santa and I'll think about it while it's in transit! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 07:51:19
QUOTE(Savo @ May 22 2008, 11:29 PM) [snapback]450892[/snapback]
I can understand Airdrie and creditors being impatient, but what would you have said in 2001 if Kroll Buchler Phillips had stuck rigidly to a deadline? What if they had just decided to liquidate Morton when people were still involved in desperate talks behind the scenes to set something up?

Don't get me wrong, I am not convinced about the merits of the Davies bid for Gretna, but you can be sure that our administrators had similar reservations at one stage here - and they kept talking.

The potential of Morton was there for all to see and had historical backing.

Gretna are F*CKED and that t*** Davies is trying to buy over a breeding ground for cheap Eastern European players to be sold on the minute they're worth two bob. Another weasel in the works.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 07:58:00 I used to love Dave Allen's final line


'And may your God go with you'.

The only losers in the religious debate are the ones who think they've got it all worked out! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 08:04:27 There is still time! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 08:34:10
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 23 2008, 08:22 AM) [snapback]450979[/snapback]
Just like to state that is bullsh1te and we will play whatever the fvck we want happy.gif

The monkey salutes your brazen advertising on this and the other forum- he's asking for the girlfriend's sporran BTW.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 08:36:12
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 23 2008, 08:24 AM) [snapback]450980[/snapback]
*cough*

And if anyone needs a piper.....

Mr Rae will call the tune? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 08:42:06 I'm surprised this didn't appear yesterday-it's been on P & B for ages.

Shock-horror-Baptist Minister shags Sunday School Teacher-I haven't read any of the stuff, but was fully expecting an exclusive in today's Sun.........

Holy Smoke-Ref's wife in red hot Lesbo Nun romp.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 08:48:20
QUOTE(DongaTon @ May 23 2008, 12:15 AM) [snapback]450929[/snapback]
Well done to Celtic.

A lot has been said about it, but I really have despised Rangers' anti-football in all competitions this season. They were so fortunate against Dundee Utd in the Diddy Cup Final, and hopefully that is the only silverware they will collect this season - it's scarcely all they deserve.

At least Celtic have tried to play football, and never gave up.

Strachan was a great wee player and appears to be a wily manager - he's shut up a lot of people, that's for sure.

Let's hope a few more teams can battle the SS and Celtic next season, make it a bit more competitive. Teams are getting there, but lack of consistency due to smaller squads than the OF will always hinder them.

I have no love for Celtic but I have to say I think the best team won the league. How Rangers must be kicking themselves they pulled out of the deal for Scott McDonald!!!



You say it best when you say nothing at all wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 09:02:38
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 23 2008, 08:48 AM) [snapback]450996[/snapback]
Only if he can show the funds for paying said piper are coming from an allocated "pipers pit" source in advance that has been agreed at board level in a 75% majority vote and the tune is one that said piper knows. If time will allow, music may be given to the piper for learning this tune but it must be made aware that this wont always be possible.

Oh and that "I've Got Candy" can't be played on the pipes wink.gif

'Look son I don't care what can or can't be played on that tartan covered bagpipe equipment which reminds me of a tin of Buchanan's-Scotland's finest confectionery-you've been promised two and six for an afternoon's work, and if I want the Hallelujah Chorus in ragtime, you'll damned well play it and like it.....................AND


whisssssssssper-erm-could you stretch a point and-erm-- humph-play 'Live is Life'-I appeal to you as a fellow Greenockian-I know two and six isn't much those days, but when I was a boy it was a months' pocket money-and I don't see any harm in sticking with the old standards-Mrs Rae will be so pleased young man. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 09:05:46
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 23 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]451008[/snapback]
The Strone. laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-05-23 09:10:09
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 23 2008, 09:02 AM) [snapback]451005[/snapback]
I haven't mentioned anything about homophobia. You said and I quote "Soutar wants to legislate on what consenting adults get up to in their own rooms."
Can you provide proof of this ? Or indeed provide a link to prove such a claim ?

Souter tried to block the repeal of Section 2A (Section28 as it is also known mainly in England & Wales), which related to the "intentional promotion" of homosexuality in Schools.

Well if pufes were promoted unintentionally somebody would have made an arse of it!

I'd like to believe that homosexuals have equal opportunities in the job stakes.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 09:20:39
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 23 2008, 09:13 AM) [snapback]451018[/snapback]
His name was either Percy or Perry? I am driving my dads black astra, with i sign saying Princess on board, of course! Will get my own car when i am not a student and can afford to run it. smile.gif

mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif


Take the sign off immediately-it obscures your rearward vision and distracts other motorists-mine says Mortonjag for Pope BTW.

Secondly-how in the name of the wee man (not meaning to offend any dwarves who may be keeking up over the parapet) was PERCY your tester.


Spurtle is finally exposed! blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 12:02:56
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 23 2008, 10:30 AM) [snapback]451061[/snapback]
Can't believe that this thread's been on the go for two days and no-one has yet remarked on the omission of the word "a" from the centre of the title.......

.......but they have now.

Who are 'they'?

Speak to your English teacher if you don't understand that, son.

That is intended to be patronising, but also educational. Listen to the jag instead of mocking! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 12:08:40
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 23 2008, 09:27 AM) [snapback]451028[/snapback]
The sign is on a wee side window in the back. rolleyes.gif If by Percy, you mean Colkitto, it wasnt him, i know him. wink.gif

OMG you've been introduced to CLAYMORE C*CK! blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 12:14:38
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 23 2008, 11:22 AM) [snapback]451074[/snapback]
They became electable after they abandonded socialism, they would still be electable if Blair had not f'cked up over Iraq and then pissed off.
The tories are now electable because they have grabbed the centre.

There's a message there for those who want to see it.

The funniest thing about the campaign.

A lady called Tamsin calling her opponent a Toff. laugh.gif

Mantis more like!

QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 23 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]451077[/snapback]
Well done the Tories !

It's all falling into place for us nationalists. The Tories will introduce English votes on English matters. And already Cameron is talking of doing away with the Barnett Formula Asked if it was time to get rid of the formula, Mr Cameron says: "This cannot last forever"

A referendum with the backdrop of the Tories in power at Westminster, Labour in meltdown with very unpopular leaders, both north and south of the border (and no credible replacements either !) you couldn't ask for better.


Why are you not a member of the S.N.P. Spurtle? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 12:18:28
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 23 2008, 11:49 AM) [snapback]451079[/snapback]
"Indirectly it could be argued it could be argued that he is trying to legislate" That is a big difference to "Soutar wants to legislate on what consenting adults get up to in their own rooms."

In other words, you have absolutely no evidence whatsoever that Souter wants to legislate on anything !

Souter was entitled to have his say on what he believed in as far as Section 2A goes. He employs homosexuals, so can hardly be described as a rabid homophobe.

As for the Cliff Richard thread. I merely asked the question if Cliff was gay ? rolleyes.gif


Names please!
mortonjag 2008-05-23 12:22:19
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 23 2008, 12:09 PM) [snapback]451088[/snapback]
oh, we understand all right. Glad you informed us it was meant to be patronising; it wasn't clever enough a comment for that to be obvious. But naw, I'll pass on the "listening" part, waste o' time, that.

Hmmm, must stop referring to ourselves in the plurality - must leave that to MJ in future.......

Don't youse mean 'in the plural'?
mortonjag 2008-05-23 12:27:09
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 23 2008, 10:00 AM) [snapback]451044[/snapback]
aye, fair enough - do you guys play requests? Maybe a wee lament for MJ's missing marbles?? laugh.gif

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erm


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mortonjag 2008-05-23 12:44:00
QUOTE(suda @ May 23 2008, 11:37 AM) [snapback]451076[/snapback]
the 1st rule of workplace politics is don't tell anybody else what your getting paid.

MortonJag your nothing if not predictable I could of guessed it would all be Rae's fault. He seems to be gradually progressing the club, promotion, survival, building a stronger squad - it must be terribly frustrating for one so jealous to see so your arguments are becoming more and more desperate and tedious. By your own admission there are probably better wingers available for the money so why pay more?

That is your opinion-nothing more.

I confess to many emotions when I think about our 'Saviour'. Jealously, I assure you, is not one of them.

I actually feel sorry for him-I'm not an unkind person and fully understand he is the victim of his own personality. I DO believe he means well-that his heart's in the right place, if you like, but I'm also aware of the effect that has on other people-thousands of them.

You can either choose to believe or disbelieve what I state-I DON'T lie, and I DON'T make allegations without being able to substantiate them. Quite frankly I sometimes wonder why I bother keeping it all up my sleeve, but I have professional standards to maintain, and will never betray confidences.

What is as plain as the nose on my face is that Rae was DESPERATE to hang on to JM and distraught when he insisted on going. To me that does not smack of a man with a plan!

I'm sorry suda-if you're only 'Jag baiting' that's fine, but if you really believe what you just wrote, you're now in a dwindling minority.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 12:49:46
QUOTE(BluebirdTon @ May 23 2008, 11:25 AM) [snapback]451075[/snapback]
Morton 2-2 Dundee United in 1995.

Cappielow was so packed i had to make do with the Dundee United end.

Correct-an absolutely farcical mismanagement, and the turnstyles haven't been improved since despite all the massive expenditure on the stadium we're constantly being told about. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 12:57:43
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 23 2008, 12:24 PM) [snapback]451096[/snapback]
They wouldnae have him wink.gif

Because of his sexual persuasion? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 13:04:40
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 19 2008, 11:03 PM) [snapback]449411[/snapback]
If Brown and the government want to do something for the forces, give them better equipment or decent wages. Rather than have flag waving ceremonies to further his own political agenda.

How much does Bawheid pay the Scottish Army Spurtle?
mortonjag 2008-05-23 13:07:36
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 23 2008, 12:57 PM) [snapback]451111[/snapback]
You know who they are, you "frequent" with them ohmy.gif

None of my homosexual friends is employed by Soutar-unless of course you were alluding to practices of which I remain unaware.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 13:10:55
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ May 23 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]451117[/snapback]
That would be interesting if it ever came about. Could an independent Scotland maintain the same wages and conditions as now?
mmm...
Personally, I dont think so.

Full heilan' dress and a claymore for each sojer-they'd save a bloody fortune, and even thae pufes would feel comfy in the gear.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 13:19:38
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 23 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]451120[/snapback]
We argued about that one,and he won.......

Let him do the posting in future.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 13:23:58
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ May 23 2008, 01:14 PM) [snapback]451124[/snapback]
The Roayal Regiment of Scotland already has the heilan dress. I wonder what we would wear? Nice uniforms in a navy coloured tartan? Perhaps a fetching bonnet designed by shortbread tin designers?
Cannot wait!

Nae claymores?
mortonjag 2008-05-23 13:26:26
QUOTE(WillowMan @ May 23 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]451128[/snapback]
Are you now Davies's mouthpiece unsure.gif tongue.gif

A mere observer-welcome back Willie Man!
mortonjag 2008-05-23 13:31:14
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 23 2008, 01:26 PM) [snapback]451132[/snapback]
I never said anything about supporting him. He does have an opinion about Section 2A, how many posters on here would disagree with his views I wonder ?. He is not homophobic to the degree that you and many on here would suggest.

I personally never agreed with his stance on Section 2A. But I don't get hung up about it and exaggerate it all out of proportion.

Spurtle-can we clear the air once and for all on this-do you regard practising homosexuals as perfectly normal in every way?
mortonjag 2008-05-23 13:39:46
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 23 2008, 01:13 PM) [snapback]451121[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif Now I'm lost blink.gif
The odd request is no problem...as long as I know it wink.gif


Does the girlfriend not have a sporran puggs-in that case, maybe you should borrow the razor!




Just play 'Mulligan's Tired'-he won't know the difference from 'Jaggy-where's yer Marbles'.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 14:34:11
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 23 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]451141[/snapback]
ummm, the two are entirely separate issues. Sniping from the sidelines just for the sake of stirring things up & being a pain in the chuckies deserves to be discouraged; it has nothing to do with attendance at games or other functions, which over this last wee while may well have deserved a thread in its own right.

Doing anything 'just for the sake of stirring things up' is certainly to be discouraged, unless, of course, the stirring is of the 'general nonsense' variety which most posters seem to enjoy without clyping too often to our overworked Mods!

Making valid points, asking valid questions, and trying to open some folks eyes to what's been going on is surely quite different.

Manchesterton is spot on-there's a 'here's tae us-wha's like us' element among some of our fans-they don't like new faces-the board is never as good as in the 'old days'- and petty competition and jealousy appears commonplace.

Good gracious, I'm in my bloody sixties, yet only a few weeks back, one of our well known 'young bucks' was mounting his own campaign to have me banned-WHY- well my opinion for what it's worth is that he must see old Jag as competition, and that is frankly pathetic, especially when he's the same age as my weans!

I don't mind 'abuse' if it's witty and played by the rules. I DO object to false and unsubstantiated allegations about ME-- made just for the sake of stirring things up-though in the longer term they have always spurred me on, rather than discouraged me.

Categorically I am neither 'sniping from the sidelines' (I KNOW exactly what I'm talking about, and my intended targets know I speak the truth), nor am I stirring things up just for the sake of it.

I have supported Morton all my life. Unlike Mr Rae, two thirds of that life have been spent outside Inverclyde, yet I still attend every match-home and away. I have fond memories of the glory days of the sixties-just as Mr Rae has, and I passionately want to see the club I love back in its rightful place in Scottish Football.

I believe we are now at a watershed-I believe substantial financial investment may be available if other criteria are fulfilled-and I believe that the one thing which now hampers progress is the unyielding grip Mr Rae has on the club.

That last statement is based on evidence
, much of it documented, which I have amassed over the last three years, and includes confidential input from several other regular posters. All I have ever asked of Mr Rae is that he move gracefully aside, let those more capable take over the reins, and enjoy the rest of his time at Cappielow in an Honorary capacity.

It is perfectly obvious that the tide is turning-it is only a matter of time before something gives, should the current regime remain. I'd like to see it sooner rather than later.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 15:01:51
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 23 2008, 01:51 PM) [snapback]451139[/snapback]
BECAUSE THEY CAN. laugh.gif

unsure.gif laugh.gif

I always have to ask them to speak up-goes with the age.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 15:03:38
QUOTE(centralTON @ May 23 2008, 01:54 PM) [snapback]451143[/snapback]
Well, he is a Donkey, so, maybe he's hung like one. tongue.gif

...or just fancied a nice ass.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 15:06:26
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 23 2008, 02:07 PM) [snapback]451148[/snapback]
It is un-natural to me, and to be honest I can't understand it. I wouldn't say it was normal either, probably due to the fact that I can't understand it.

But I believe two homosexual males/females can have affections for each other normally attributed to hetrosexuals.
They shouldn't be ostricised or become pariah's because of how they wish to lead their lives.
They should have the same legal rights as hetrosexuals too.

There-that was relatively painless!

Do you think Mr Soutar views homosexuals in a similar fashion?
mortonjag 2008-05-23 15:08:35
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ May 23 2008, 02:15 PM) [snapback]451150[/snapback]
The navy uses cutlasses!

Aye, to open rum bottles. Bawheid could build all his Scottish Navy boats on the Clyde too!
mortonjag 2008-05-23 15:11:32
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 23 2008, 12:55 PM) [snapback]451110[/snapback]
I have not always agreed with SNP policy in the past. Right now they are doing a fine job and I back them. That wasn't always the cae as I say.
At the start I didn't agree going down the referendum route. I believed a majority of votes in the Scottish Parliament should be enough to declare unilateral declaration of independence (UDI) as it would be the democratic WILL of the Parliament and therefore the WILL of the Scottish people.

And I wasn't too keen on being part of Europe or having the present Monarchy as head of State.

But I realise we have to achieve independence first before we can tackle Europe and the Monarchy. And it's no use getting into an argument about the referendum either. Nothing will change that now. And if in the end it get's us to independence then I'll be happy.

When is Bawheid getting the munny?

QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 23 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]451151[/snapback]
You're gonnae get a yella card auld Yin. wink.gif

Enough of the ageism or I'll have you banned-or might even call you a dwarf.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 15:22:10
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 23 2008, 02:47 PM) [snapback]451158[/snapback]
I've just realised that the SPL has a rep on the creditors' committee despite not being listed as a creditor in the administrator's report. They did put money in after the club went into admin, but if the report is correct (and it is inaccurate and incomplete in other details too) it would seem to me that the SPL rep shouldn't be on the committee. I also question why the administrator appears able to, if he so chooses, hand pick the CC members as that would enable the result to be fixed.

What's the local MSP/MP saying about all this?
mortonjag 2008-05-23 15:24:31
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 23 2008, 03:14 PM) [snapback]451166[/snapback]
I think Souter just didn't like the fact that homosexuality was being brought into a childs enviroment within schools around the country.

I thought sex education was a modern idea.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 15:56:33
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 23 2008, 03:29 PM) [snapback]451170[/snapback]
Not a cheep from our local MP or constituency MSP (both Labour) but then you wouldn't expect either of them to have their finger on the pulse of the local community. To be fair to Russell Brown, he is a Queens fan and will no doubt be at the game tomorrow - and I suspect he wouldn't be too unhappy to see Gretna flounder.

Wouldn't surprise me if there's an item in the Gretna accounts: Donation to W. Alexander - £999.99. Or would be if they actually bothered to produce accounts.

I had a good wee scan of the listed creditors-the joke of course is that the real biggies who are on that tame committee won't really be hurt much, yet there's a whole trail of debt right across the local community. It is SURELY the responsibility of elected MSP/MP's to look after their constituents. I believe they should be presented with written questions before it is too late-though I still have the distinct feeling that the SFL will tell Davies to go to f*ck.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 16:00:06
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 23 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]451172[/snapback]
I did say I didn't agree with his stance. but it's a minor issue to me.

You appear to have been much misjudged Spurtle!
mortonjag 2008-05-23 16:01:24
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 23 2008, 03:32 PM) [snapback]451173[/snapback]
Whit munny ?

Yer bloody subscription to the haggis club!
mortonjag 2008-05-23 16:06:07
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 23 2008, 04:02 PM) [snapback]451182[/snapback]
Whit haggis club ?

Essen Pee
mortonjag 2008-05-23 16:14:04
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 23 2008, 04:09 PM) [snapback]451185[/snapback]
Although I'm not in the same league as Lord Laidlaw on so many levels. I have made donations to the SNP.

So have I!

You're not for joining Bawheid's band then?
mortonjag 2008-05-23 16:46:25
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ May 23 2008, 04:28 PM) [snapback]451189[/snapback]
you knew i played football, remember telling u years ago! i thought all wummin stood up to pee! oops time to get ma coat i think! laugh.gif

Button yer flies first Madam.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 16:48:29
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ May 23 2008, 04:35 PM) [snapback]451194[/snapback]
You've just made the very basic error of admitting to being a women on here. Your profile views will go though the roof in the next few days as the saddoes on here check if there are any photos. I'd have kept it ambiguous if I were you.

Said with a certain air of savoir faire.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 16:51:38
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 23 2008, 04:46 PM) [snapback]451199[/snapback]
31 years in teaching and I missed the courses in homosexuality!

huh.gif

It'll probably be rife in thae proddy schools though.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 17:38:03
QUOTE(manchesterton @ May 23 2008, 05:24 PM) [snapback]451216[/snapback]
I have plenty of spare beers and you are more than welcome to share so long as you bring the sun with you from Sunny Greenock. biggrin.gif

Believe it or not he's just arrived in Glesca-I've been waiting for him all day, and can confirm he has his hat on too.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 17:52:52
QUOTE(RevDave @ May 23 2008, 05:41 PM) [snapback]451220[/snapback]
Finlayson has signed up for another 2 years.

I thought he was on holiday! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 18:02:11
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 23 2008, 05:54 PM) [snapback]451226[/snapback]
where to begin..
sniping from the sidelines means to criticise rather than getting involved


it does not refer to being in or out of a particular clique of fans, whether real or imagined

everyone who posts on here criticising the club is in a sense sniping from the sidelines (see threads about the website, the commercial operation, the management, the owner ... )

someone who goes a whole season sitting beside dougie, but brings his criticisms on here is either a sniper or a sleeper



A sniper is an infantry combatant or serviceman (e.g. police officer) who specializes in shooting from a concealed position over longer ranges than regular infantry, often with a specially designed or adapted sniper rifle. A sniper requires skill in marksmanship, camouflage, and field craft. Military snipers are also adept at carrying out methods of infiltration, reconnaissance, and observation techniques cool.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 18:07:21
QUOTE(cornbeef @ May 23 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]451230[/snapback]
Good ! Glad to see that sorted. NEXT ! Bringing back McGowan would be something else.

Surely nobody wants another 'striker' now that we have super Khali!
mortonjag 2008-05-23 18:12:59
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 23 2008, 06:01 PM) [snapback]451231[/snapback]
laugh.gif

Bryan was not me he was midTONs-tontastic- Dougie Rae-aye that'll do



Bryan is Dougie Rae, and he's off on holiday for a fortnight.

Vive la revolution!
mortonjag 2008-05-23 18:17:29
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 23 2008, 06:09 PM) [snapback]451237[/snapback]
you rascal - i was just about to make the same point biggrin.gif

.... and subsequent posts underlined it laugh.gif

(PS so i think 'they' is now justified tongue.gif)

What's with your obsession with the Jag's willie, Trumpet?

Have you nothing better to do like wiping your arse, peeling the totties, or simply having a nice soothing chug at your own?
mortonjag 2008-05-23 18:20:33
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 23 2008, 06:16 PM) [snapback]451245[/snapback]
prisoner at the bar - do please speak up: we couldn't be sure if you said 'guilty' or 'not guilty' tongue.gif

I plead teetotal yer lordspish
mortonjag 2008-05-23 18:27:46
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 23 2008, 06:20 PM) [snapback]451248[/snapback]
i neither know nor care whether mortonjag has one, but he most clearly is one highly intelligent person whom I'd love to outsmart.



Trumpet-bless your soul-I knew you'd come good in the end! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 18:31:56
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 23 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]451251[/snapback]
we expect great things of you

St. Francis said, “Blessed is he who expecteth nothing, for he shall enjoy everything.â€
mortonjag 2008-05-23 18:34:23
QUOTE(cornbeef @ May 23 2008, 06:28 PM) [snapback]451253[/snapback]
Better with a Cali Super than a super Khali.................... and another thing...............

is superkhalirealistic ???

superhhalisrealistic espee.elsatrocious
mortonjag 2008-05-23 18:36:56
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 23 2008, 06:33 PM) [snapback]451259[/snapback]
and as usual, you're graceful in (albeit rare) defeat tongue.gif

In truth I'm more graceful in de hands.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 18:55:26
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 23 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]451266[/snapback]
does st. francis post on here?

and are you two related laugh.gif

I think he just keeks in every now and then-and Aye-he's my wee brother from Wemyss Bay


Trumpet-have you thrown yourself off a cliff or something?
mortonjag 2008-05-23 18:57:57
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 23 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]451268[/snapback]
yes, i rather thought you'd need large shoes

I can be gracious in de feet.

Trumpet- speak to me I'm in all by Michelle! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 18:59:58 Labour Whipped By Toffs!


COBBLERS
mortonjag 2008-05-23 19:03:31
QUOTE(ThornTON @ May 23 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]451267[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2008-05-23 19:15:48
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ May 22 2008, 10:31 PM) [snapback]450818[/snapback]
Tennis is a poofs game

The same could be said of all in wrestling.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 19:18:33
QUOTE(Deego @ May 23 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]451279[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-05-23 19:39:36 The deed is done-the money can not now be spent elsewhere-whether it's going to be more of the purple patch or more of the right wing blues is now simply a matter of time.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 19:41:48
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 23 2008, 07:37 PM) [snapback]451287[/snapback]
I was at wimbledon 2 years ago. Brilliant day, burnt to a frazzle, sick on the plane on the way back! Tennis is a brilliant game, i play for Ardgowan Ladies, my name has been on Inverclyde Now for the last few weeks, won every match this season so far, never know, might win the league. wink.gif

I thought you were a girl!
mortonjag 2008-05-23 19:48:56
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 23 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]451292[/snapback]
Been playing with the Ladies for the last 3 years. rolleyes.gif

so Dowsa WAS right! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 19:50:25
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 23 2008, 07:48 PM) [snapback]451293[/snapback]
£3.80.

rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 19:52:18
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 23 2008, 07:49 PM) [snapback]451295[/snapback]
Eh??? unsure.gif

sorry princess-the old Jag was just being a knotty boy as usual!
mortonjag 2008-05-23 21:03:46
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ May 23 2008, 08:37 PM) [snapback]451314[/snapback]
eh?

£2 times 190% is £3.80

You can't get 190% of £2...........but you can get 0 to 100% of £2

Sorry -- not like me I know

Couldn't resist

It's not like you to belittle people santa.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 21:10:48
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ May 23 2008, 08:40 PM) [snapback]451319[/snapback]
That's actually pretty bad!

I agree-he'll be kicked oot the Baptist Church too-guaranteed-I didn't actually read the story-did he take cold feet and she went to the press in the huff?

Men and their willies-eh-what God hath joined together, let no man put asunder! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 21:15:39
QUOTE(Toby @ May 23 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]451332[/snapback]
I'd be more inclined to think that's "Miss Cowdenbeath".

Miss Uranus.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 21:44:16
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 23 2008, 09:36 PM) [snapback]451342[/snapback]
I wonder if she rides a bike with twin saddles. How do you ride a bike if you've got three legs?

I don't think she has Mr Edwards-though she appears to have 1.5 bums.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 07:32:03 Full marks to the club for getting the piccy and news of Kev on GMFC.

NO marks for the daft blue pants which should obviously be white, the 'tacky or what' Millions logo, and the outlandish marketing ploy of paying scarecrow's wages for the model.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 07:38:05
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ May 24 2008, 12:55 AM) [snapback]451462[/snapback]
I'd be delighted if we signed McManus, good experienced player who might be able to pass on something to Greacen and Harding, the sort of experienced guy they could have done with in the squad 2 years ago. Would be a positive move.



QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 24 2008, 12:58 AM) [snapback]451463[/snapback]
Would be a great player for a season, possibly two. Hope it's us that have signed him !

This is the sort of signing we should have been making three and four seasons ago instead of concentrating all our efforts on the unreliable form of inexperienced youngsters. Some common sense (if he arrives) seems to be prevailing at last, and much can be made in the first division from a good mix of youth and experience. Gordon Chisholm would confirm.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 07:43:34
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 23 2008, 10:36 PM) [snapback]451373[/snapback]
yes they are both that tall,i forgot Brian Graham too.

EVERYBODY seems to have forgotten Brian Graham-wouldn't surprise me if he scores more than Wakey this season.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 07:46:02
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ May 24 2008, 12:04 AM) [snapback]451428[/snapback]
FAO Deego and Davie McArthur:

Would you rather we still had Gardyne? blink.gif

Any day-Gardyne will probably break through this season or next-he has a good future IMHO.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 07:49:05
QUOTE(john cena @ May 24 2008, 01:35 AM) [snapback]451471[/snapback]
Sign him great player. Him and McGowan rolleyes.gif

...and while we're at it the Tims could throw in Scott McDonald and that daft big Polish c*nt ! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-24 07:53:38
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ May 23 2008, 11:31 PM) [snapback]451397[/snapback]
No.........your joke

It was pretty bad!

There was a joke Santa! ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-24 07:57:37
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 24 2008, 01:53 AM) [snapback]451475[/snapback]
Kin yer maw ride a bike in the middle o the night wi her feet on e handle bars

Wi yir erm in a sling and a finger up her ding and e cheeks of her erse go ding a ling a ling
Well a said tae flow a luv ye so, even in yer nightie

When e moonlight flicks across yer tits o jesus christ almighty
Well a know that hole its a luvely hole an a know were jist tae find it

Its doon yer front and its cald yer c**T

and yer ershole's right behind it
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Full lyrics and melody please.

Definitely not Morrisey crap-that one!
mortonjag 2008-05-24 08:00:30
FLATUS MAGNUS
mortonjag 2008-05-24 08:03:54
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ May 23 2008, 11:23 PM) [snapback]451386[/snapback]
I'm deeply sorry

Well stop telling me you're Santa, deeply.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 08:06:18
QUOTE(Deego @ May 24 2008, 03:12 AM) [snapback]451503[/snapback]
It's curvy.

There's no need to be accurate.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 08:07:49
QUOTE(Deego @ May 24 2008, 03:38 AM) [snapback]451511[/snapback]
Sex.

Sugarally watter
mortonjag 2008-05-24 08:10:01
QUOTE(Deego @ May 24 2008, 03:48 AM) [snapback]451514[/snapback]
Awright I lied I'm still here.

Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Well will you kindly remove that avatar and replace it with a human being. The Chairman will do fine. Your signature is grand! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-24 08:14:45
QUOTE(davidh1874 @ May 24 2008, 03:32 AM) [snapback]451507[/snapback]
Mother has taken computer away again due to only having 7 A's on the report card.

...and he's currently rowing back from Shetland with a couple of jumpers for his faither.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 08:24:41
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 24 2008, 12:37 AM) [snapback]451450[/snapback]
You can presume as much as you like, 'but you and I both know' that you haven't any certainty at all that I'll vote SNP George (if that's your name). At this moment I doubt very much that I will because some of those Tartan Tory Pricks have too much history of screwing up the cause of self determination. I talk the SNP down mainly because the SNP tends to talk ordinary Scottish people down. The smirking, near 'ubermensch' mentality of some SNP members and supporters continues to alienate those who might otherwise support the concept of self government.

sad.gif Does Moira know?

QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 24 2008, 12:41 AM) [snapback]451454[/snapback]
Political post of the year. Unfortunately memories are short and people refuse to see what is right in front of them. Recent exploits clearly show that Salmond is an excuse of a politician, an excuse of a man and an excuse of a Scotsman.



Bendy Wendy is worse and the lib dems aren't worth a w**k. So he'll be successful in spite of himself.

Salmond, by the day, is being exposed for the joke that he is. His ego and his own personal agenda clearly outweighs anything else. Shame - because he started out a decent and honourable man who I once thought highly of.

TonInDublin


And as photogenic as a rotten tumshie in a scarecrows suit.
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 24 2008, 12:47 AM) [snapback]451458[/snapback]
I stand corrected. This is the best and most accurate political post of the year.

And he is called George. It's Belgian for small.

Allegedly.

TonInDublin



QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 24 2008, 04:55 AM) [snapback]451519[/snapback]
There's no such language as Belgian. tongue.gif

In Flanders the official language Dutch (often incorrectly referred to as Flemish) and in Wallonia it's French, whereas the capital Brussels is bi-lingual.

So 'Belgian' for small would be 'petit(e)' or 'klein(e)' and not George.

Happy to help. smile.gif

Brussels smout speak with forked tongue?
mortonjag 2008-05-24 08:30:44 I love that scarf, and what a sweet looking girl.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 08:35:57
QUOTE(Deego @ May 23 2008, 11:18 PM) [snapback]451384[/snapback]
What ever happened to TWGP, RTB and the likes?

You're a pure fannybreast mortonjag, show me how to pleasure a man the way you do.

xx

Sorry deeglet mon petit choux choux-I was early to bed last night.

port ton had a heavy day.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 09:26:30 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

What a shower you lot are-you're on here till the wee sma' oors and can't get oot yer pits for love or money.


Early to bed and early to rise makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-24 09:36:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 24 2008, 09:28 AM) [snapback]451546[/snapback]
....I'm here tongue.gif

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I see Shoogly paid you for 'Live is Life'!
mortonjag 2008-05-24 10:55:31
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 24 2008, 10:15 AM) [snapback]451558[/snapback]
If politics is to have any real meaning then I'd suggest it isn't relative. There is a difference between right, left and centre, problem is nowadays all of the major political parties in Scotland are right wing in reality, whilst claiming to be centrist. Correction : some of them are even bigger liars and claim to be left of centre.

The truth is Mr Edwards that British 'democracy' has always been a misnomer, British politics has always been corrupt, and 'successful' British politicians have always put self before party before people.

With those criteria, Bawheid could sadly be around for some time.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 11:06:28
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 24 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]451560[/snapback]
I had a dream last night that upon passing Cappielow the bulldozers where raising the Sinclair St and Wee Dublin End to the ground in anticipation of construction of an away stand that may attract more to Cappielow and a family stand to encourage the next generation of ton fans.

But then I woke up and realised that if this club cannot build a decent infrastructure such as youth development, what chance that the powers that be are at all interested in investing in the clubs future at any level.

We have very limited ambition, and if we where to romp the 1st division in the coming season DDF and Junior would choke on their millions at the thought of having to upgrade Cappielow.

Having said that IF we did romp to the SPL I fully believe the Rae dyNASTY would toddle back to their day jobs and release their shares to a more ambitious individual or group. wink.gif

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'As long as there's breath in my body Greenock Morton is not for sale unless somebody comes in with an offer more ridiculously overpriced than this seasons strips'.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 11:09:54
What do you base this on?

DRUGS TEST !
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Time will tell gentlemen just as it always does! I can't understand the current obsession with Kev-nor with Wakey for that matter, though they are both good squad players.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 11:19:21 cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ May 24 2008, 11:00 AM) [snapback]451567[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You talk as if McInally is still our manager - still getting the nightmares? laugh.gif
If he still was he wouldn't be making this sort of signing wink.gif[/quote]
If he still was, Mr Rae's wishes would'nt have been thwarted, we'd be back in the second division, and the fans would be to blame-that-along with the price of sugar, global warming, and Wendy Alexander.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 11:24:47
QUOTE(stuart @ May 24 2008, 09:49 AM) [snapback]451552[/snapback]
Confirmation straight from the board - nice one smile.gif

Very pleased with this signing.

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mortonjag 2008-05-24 11:44:44


cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ May 24 2008, 11:22 AM) [snapback]451577[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I will forgive the Kev statement as I understand the doubters - although his effort more than makes up for that in my opinion !

.....but Gardyne ! Really.....little ability and absolutely ZERO heart ![/quote]
If you are going to rate players purely on mediocre talent and big hearts you could re-name the ARTC right now.

Gardyne is only 22, has under 17 and 19 international caps, and is twice as direct as the relatively ageing blinkered greyhound that is Finlayson. The former did also manage to score several goals last season.

It is quite frankly a farce that Morton have not had a proper winger for two seasons, and despite DI's commonsense approach, failure to sign at least one decent crosser of a ball will significantly hamper progress next season.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 11:50:40
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ May 24 2008, 09:36 AM) [snapback]451550[/snapback]
Wouldn't surprise me either, but it'll almost definitely be on loan somewhere else.

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mortonjag 2008-05-24 11:53:55
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 24 2008, 11:16 AM) [snapback]451572[/snapback]
I'm all for ambition, just as long as it's tempered by reality. I remember that Scott and Mileson had ambitions. Let's see what this season brings. I'm certainly more hopeful than I was at this time last year.

Scott had ambitions unrelated to the success of Morton, while Mileson backed a non-starter.

If 'better the devil you know' was always true, progress would inevitably be stunted.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 12:00:19
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ May 24 2008, 11:48 AM) [snapback]451588[/snapback]
Of course Wendy Alexander would be to blame - Bendy Wendy's responsible for everything that's gone wrong in the world.

Including the straight banana.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 12:06:12
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 24 2008, 11:57 AM) [snapback]451595[/snapback]
Can't disagree with that, Irons and co seem a more astute team. But we have been punching below our weight for well over a decade, reality for me would be competing at the top of the 1st division EVERY season, with the distinct possibility of joining the 'big' boys.

Why is it many fans seem to think we are not of that level, we are a potentially bigger club (and should be at that level) than the likes of ICT, Falkirk and definitely Hamilton. Indeed in my opinion we should be at the level of the likes of Motherwell.

We have to realise our potential or forever be looking in from the outside, regarded as a very well supported diddy club. There is only one club in our division who should regularly be bigger than us and that is Dundee.
I still challenge the owners of Morton to come out publicly and state what their long term plans are for Morton, have we found what they regard as our level, or are they willing to take this club forward?

Morton are run in a very amateur fashion compared to clubs with obvious ambition, it is almost looked upon as a toy or badge for our esteemed chairman.
It has a siege mentality at times and we as the fans are not allowed to ask pertinent questions regarding the future because we don't own it, but without us there would be no Morton.

Maybe, just maybe, someday someone who understands where Morton should be will take this club forward.
I can only hope.

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So that's how I'm supposed to say it? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-24 12:10:51
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 24 2008, 11:30 AM) [snapback]451582[/snapback]
It's my pedantic scientist brain. Centres are relative to the position of the thing measured. British politics has moved to be more right wing economically and to be more liberal socially over the last 30 years. We would both be happy with one of those moves and would disagree over the felicity of the other.
You are correct about most Scottish parties now being right of centre economically.

Greedy b*****ds rule O.K.!
mortonjag 2008-05-24 12:17:43
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 24 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]451583[/snapback]
Weather beginning to look nice, was about to think about getting the shoes on and strolling into the dear green place for a long liquid lunch wie Lady McB(eth) then the mind snapped into gear, cup final day. dry.gif

The place will be hoachin' wie blue bigots spewing their bile.

Buggrit. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

Mon e Doonhamers. tongue.gif

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Bigots spewing their blue bile would have been better Mr Bam-if pictorially inaccurate.

I shall indeed be supporting the true blues this afternoon-I'm not expecting them to win, though Mr Hill has been humming the lorelei all morning!
mortonjag 2008-05-24 12:29:13
QUOTE(C B @ May 24 2008, 12:12 PM) [snapback]451602[/snapback]
I am really at a loss as to why you suddenly have Gardyne love blink.gif he was McInally's worst signing and THAT is some achievement !

I guess though you will be rooting him on against Kevin when we meet County next year just so you can say I told you so unsure.gif

Disappointed in you this time MJ

People are SUPPOSED to be disappointed in me CB! wink.gif

I don't have 'loves' or for that matter 'hates' for players, unlike, it would appear, 75% of posters.

If you're basing what you say on his performances for us, I fully understand. Sadly the same could be applied to the undoubtedly talented Stevenson. McInally, it seems, had a kiss of death on players-NOBODY really advanced under his gaze.

His worst signing IMO was possibly Coakley, and despite his latter form, the jury's still out on Wakey IMO.

Rather than me 'loving' Gardyne', you seem to be carried away with Super Kev's work ethic. It sure has to be that, as his talent is strictly limited! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-24 12:41:06
QUOTE(ViolaTon @ May 24 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]451609[/snapback]
Quality-concerns aside, I liked this year's home strip a lot, especially the paler blue, the white shorts, the hooped sleeves and the lack of that ridiculous 'millions' logo. When I first heard the description of the new one I was a bit dubious but, now that I see it, it isn't bad - glad we stuck with the hoops, plus the collar is quite nice. Real shame about the sponsor (although I think I'd rather it was on the front instead of sneaked on at the back of the neck) - surely we can find a better sponsor than that?! Only the 'seriously strong cheddar' one comes close to being as naff.

To be honest I could live with 'Randy's Remoulds' if the club was getting a huge input of sponsorship money.

To me 'Millions' on the shirts says absolutely EVERYTHING that's regressive about the current situation.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 12:44:15
QUOTE(InverAlly @ May 24 2008, 12:18 PM) [snapback]451605[/snapback]
Bob, back in The Sheiling 14th June!

Do you do funerals too?
mortonjag 2008-05-24 13:20:37
QUOTE(stuart @ May 24 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]451623[/snapback]
That's exactly what I meant Donkey Dave, confirmation from the messageboard.

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mortonjag 2008-05-24 13:30:15
QUOTE(CraigoTON @ May 24 2008, 11:27 AM) [snapback]451581[/snapback]
Cheers mate biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

I'll never forget my 19th Birthday-Queen of the South beat Rangers in the Scottish Cup Final! wink.gif


Enjoy!
mortonjag 2008-05-24 13:37:21
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 24 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]451614[/snapback]
Nearly right MJ.

Greedy b*****ds rule U.K.

TonInDublin

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QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 24 2008, 01:11 PM) [snapback]451618[/snapback]
Ach I'll beg his forgiveness later Geordie. He's good that way ! Although scripture would seem to be in my favour.

Romans Ch6 verse 15 clearly states "blessed is he who highlights the shortcomings of the men who rise not above the height of the centurions belts, yea even when they doth wear the sandals of the highly heeled type".

At least I think that's how I remember it.

Have a good weekend Geordie - you know I love you really.

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What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.


That would be wee Grace I'd imagine.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 13:42:18
QUOTE(Cawston @ May 24 2008, 01:23 PM) [snapback]451627[/snapback]
Looks like the work of Snodgrass's agent.

don't know how 'supplier' seems to suit the surname better.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 14:04:06
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 24 2008, 01:55 PM) [snapback]451633[/snapback]
Nope, Amazing Grace wink.gif

’Twas grace that taught my heart to fear,
And grace my fears reliev’d;
How precious did that grace appear,
The hour I first believ’d!

Some effin wummin!
mortonjag 2008-05-24 14:55:55
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 24 2008, 02:17 PM) [snapback]451636[/snapback]
Well some of us were on the ran dan all day more or less and into the wee small hours wink.gif

EVERY day!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-24 14:59:48
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ May 24 2008, 02:42 PM) [snapback]451641[/snapback]
I'm sure the Morton physio will be pleased to hear that you've named him as the source on a public massageboard. If true, you'd better hope he doesn't land in soapy bubble over this. Silly boy. mad.gif

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mortonjag 2008-05-24 15:38:56
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ May 24 2008, 03:36 PM) [snapback]451645[/snapback]
Rangers in the lead after a fine strike from Boyd.

NEVER a foul by Tosh-deja vu-effin refs and OF makes me boke! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-24 15:58:08
QUOTE(alexp @ May 24 2008, 03:52 PM) [snapback]451648[/snapback]
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don't want to see rangers win, but if anyone scores, it's gotta be him. cool.gif

WHY-because he's a beastly merry can! laugh.gif

Anyway I've got the flat windows open here and there wasn't a f*ckin' cheep from those hun c*nts till Dougal gave them the first goal. Rangers had had one decent chance up till then-now it's the OLD story.

A long way back for Queens-nothing barring a miracle.

Praying VERY hard.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 17:37:49
QUOTE(The Naitch @ May 24 2008, 04:07 PM) [snapback]451651[/snapback]
It was a foul, and a fine strike as well.

Complaining for the sake of it... that's not like you MJ wink.gif wub.gif

The look on Tosh's face said it all! NO I wasn't complaining for the sake of it-I know how the Queens' fans felt at that moment-I wanted revenge for The League Cup Final-now if the ref has been Sean Donnelly! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-24 17:40:09 Double breasted post darling-glad you got doon the road safely! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-24 17:43:42
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 24 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]451669[/snapback]
Is it on the astroturf or the grass?

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Looks like the weans may have a pair of big astroturf bits tae soften up next!
mortonjag 2008-05-24 18:03:07
QUOTE(cornbeef @ May 24 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]451681[/snapback]
Good attempt at recovery there laugh.gif (It was the physio then............. rolleyes.gif )

Is it still a rumour or can we trust the source who 'cannot be named'?

I actually thought that should have read 'may not be named' but the nature of the actual constraint is unspecified. wink.gif

mortonjag 2008-05-24 18:08:43
QUOTE(Davy B Ton @ May 24 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]451680[/snapback]
I'm quite happy about keeping Finlayson. Good squad player and would easily fill in the gap on the right if there was an injury. I don't know where people are getting off on Gardyne though...God I mind him coming on and being totally useless. He may have caps for scotland under 17s and 19s but thats totally useless if he can't produce in the 1st division.

Personally I'd have Finlayson over Gardyne anyday. (to play for morton)(don't get any ideas!)

The debate will rage on about Kevin, but he's had more than long enough to show what's in him. He definitely improved under Irons-just like many other better players in the squad, and aye the boy's worth his weight in gold as a pest to the opposition.

Gardyne-as I said-don't judge a relatively young player on his few wee shots at Cappielow under JM!
mortonjag 2008-05-24 18:11:53
QUOTE(paul_ton @ May 24 2008, 06:09 PM) [snapback]451691[/snapback]
no it is not a rumour the guy spoke to him about it and he siad he was signing we shall just wait and see that i am telling the truth that allan mcmanus has signed for us

But it's not on gmfc and they were super quick about super Kev-maybe talks have STALLED!
mortonjag 2008-05-25 09:08:02
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 25 2008, 12:34 AM) [snapback]451839[/snapback]
Ditto , if my aspirations fall below what you say barbarossa thats because of my faith in the present regime and not where I think our position could be .
As much as some would praise DDFR 's reign you have to ask with such a willing force in terms of support and potential revenue for a well run operation whether the continued poor performance in running of the club hasn't really stifled our growth in the terms you speak .
As always a very good post

Barbarossa is very restrained in his posting-for that he deserves great credit.

The original question remains unanswered-not one person has provided an account of how the money is tracked. I can only assume that nobody knows. I'm now led to believe that between the Sportsman's dinner and the Fans' match we may have raised between £10.000, and £15.000-NOT a fortune but a substantial sum of money.

Before the usual morons start on me I HAVE NOT claimed that the funds have been misappropriated-I simply believe that the huge efforts of ordinary hard working guys to support the club THEY love should be properly acknowledged, rather than them having to accept in good faith that the money will reach its intended goal, as the faithful do at a church offertory.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 09:18:36
QUOTE(cornbeef @ May 24 2008, 08:19 PM) [snapback]451732[/snapback]
Can't you read ? It wasn't the physio !
It was Professor Pickett in the Boardroom.

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QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ May 24 2008, 08:23 PM) [snapback]451735[/snapback]
with the mobile phone dry.gif

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QUOTE(paul_ton @ May 24 2008, 08:52 PM) [snapback]451748[/snapback]
cant any of u read!!! i said tht i assumed it was from the physio but i was wrong
it was from my dads boss's boyfriend who met mcmanus himself at cappielow yesterday early afternoon
there are no leaks in the boardroom or physios i got it wrong!!

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QUOTE(midTONs @ May 24 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]451754[/snapback]
I maybe wrong but what would McManus be doing at Cappielow if it was not to get his picture taken by the 'tele (which It wasn't as it would have been on there website now due to Saturdays edition being printed late on a Friday), just about all signing business gets done at Fort Matilda.

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QUOTE(Toby @ May 24 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]451761[/snapback]
He wouldn't have heard any rumours Jona, too busy going away for the pies and Mars Bars!

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QUOTE(Bryan @ May 24 2008, 09:42 PM) [snapback]451781[/snapback]
so to clarify his source wasnt the physio, and i heard from someone that he had signed too...

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QUOTE(JonaTon @ May 24 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]451799[/snapback]
I remember Martin Compston was sent to the wee hut at Stenhousemuir for pies and Mars Bars by the rest of the players in the stand. Might've been the game Dave McPherson curled one in the top corner.

...when spotted by Ken Loach who was auditioning for Sweet Sixteen.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 09:25:07
QUOTE(piehutt @ May 24 2008, 07:07 PM) [snapback]451700[/snapback]
If there's a fee then I reckon we have a decent chance of signing him. Think the Dungdee coffers are running rather low these days.

...and we've just had a Sportsman's dinner and Fans' footy match!

QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ May 24 2008, 08:35 PM) [snapback]451742[/snapback]
What would you do if he wore a 'God bless Dougie Rae' t-shirt tongue.gif ?

Accept that the real one was still underneath.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 09:32:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 25 2008, 02:42 AM) [snapback]451851[/snapback]
1965 ?

or 26 October 1963 ?

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It all came back yesterday-I know how the Queens fans feel.

We had over 103,000 at that game-not bad for a wee club that can't now even afford to accommodate trialists from overseas.

Then, when we played Hamilton in the (I think) B & Q Cup final a few years back we struggled for a combined crowd of 8,000. Mind you most of those would be Hamiltonians as they are an SPL Club. wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-25 09:37:22
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ May 25 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]451867[/snapback]
Its not the size of the dog in the fight that counts,

But the size of the fight in the dog.
Foobs
6'-0"

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True- it's common knowledge that many a Rottweiler has been choked by a chihuahua.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 09:39:47
QUOTE(JonaTon @ May 24 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]451765[/snapback]
Good question. At the moment I don't think there's any really outstanding candidates.

Predictably I'd probably go for Cech or Buffon.

I thought Gordon was all set to get himself up there but he hasn't had a great season.

Edit to add: Kieran Westwood is a keeper to keep an eye out for. He was brilliant at the Carlisle game I was down at and is on the bench for the Republic Of Ireland as we speak.

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mortonjag 2008-05-25 09:45:20
QUOTE(port-ton @ May 24 2008, 08:29 PM) [snapback]451739[/snapback]
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The moment you realise youre the messageboard slut is a horrible moment in any mans life. sad.gif

I know you're married, but sluts have feelings too! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-25 09:47:55
QUOTE(port-ton @ May 24 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]451787[/snapback]
i also had a heavy gay, but i like to hump an extra bit of rump.

i feel like playing hungry hippos, dont know why your sagging naked body made me think of that.

It must have been that mud.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 09:49:42
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ May 25 2008, 12:20 AM) [snapback]451832[/snapback]
Stuart is a Cardiff fan, but I am not a Cardiff fan.
I am, however, Stuart.

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You used to be Ryan.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 10:01:52
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 25 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]451871[/snapback]
Funnily enough a good mate always praised the USSR for left wing economics and Illiberal social policy, though he was a Stalinist.
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDWhat a sweet picture-I can make out the reclining Bawheid and Big Anabel wi thi claes on-not sure if it's Jolomo or Vettriani mind.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 10:14:00
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ May 25 2008, 09:54 AM) [snapback]451881[/snapback]
I daresay that's restricted to on here where a number of our online posters are too young to know of or experienced first hand a Morton team other than the ones of the last five or six years. Certainly not of say a team that could go to Ibrox and win or one that even Sir Alex himself used to dread playing at Cappielow.

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This is one of the areas where opinion and fact are often juggled about indiscriminately. It's easy for some of our older and apparently informed posters to argue that Kilmarnock (for example) are 'bigger' than us, when they have enjoyed a long period of relative success while we've gone to seed.

Every single time the Ton potential is tested-as in the last game at Firhill -it's obvious that there's a big club in there just crying out for proper development, and those of us who remember the heady days of the sixties will NEVER be persuaded otherwise.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 10:19:41 There's a lesson to be learned by some of our younger posters when they write off potential signings as 'over the hill'. Yesterday we had Thomson scoring a cracking goal in the Scottish cup final, and Windass in his fortieth year achieving even greater things.

If you're good enough, you're young enough!
mortonjag 2008-05-25 12:07:25
QUOTE(The Naitch @ May 25 2008, 11:10 AM) [snapback]451890[/snapback]
What's wrong with Gianluigi Buffon?

Did I mention him? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-25 12:12:58
QUOTE(SvenM @ May 25 2008, 11:16 AM) [snapback]451891[/snapback]
I moved from Hamburg to Gourock in October 2003 to work for IBM and went to my first game I think in November - it was a 5-2 win, forgot the opponent. I was surprised by the style of play as I expected huffing and puffing and kicking and rushing instead of just outplaying the opponent. smile.gif I loved it and came many more times, only to witness the breakdown in the second half of the season. sad.gif

Didn't go much the following season as the football was terrible, then moved away to a better job. Reading are my current local club, but I don't like the plastic athmosphere...

I am not a fan, but keep an eye on how Morton is doing. Hope Morton survives a bit longer and can improve the infrastructure enough to challenge for promotion at some point in the future.

And shame on you all for buying the Morton shirts of the promotional season - they were sold out before I got one. wink.gif

Hi Sven- Cowboy McCormack was a much more experienced manager than Jim McInally and in those third division days we enjoyed some nice attacking football AND goals.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 12:19:53
QUOTE(The Naitch @ May 25 2008, 11:06 AM) [snapback]451889[/snapback]
Have I missed something? unsure.gif

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It would appear so-or are you just trying to be a smart arse?
mortonjag 2008-05-25 12:23:56
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 25 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]451898[/snapback]
PaddyPower is a complete and utter ride - from start to finish. Like you I got drawn in by the offer of a matched first bet and also bonus tips on nags. Spent weeks trying to get my matched bet. The nags tips are worse than useless. They boast they have a 30% success rate ! Mostly on horses that start first or second favourite. Fúck me, Peters and Lee would beat that. Also, worse still when you hit the casino - your paddypower loyalty bonus for the month is €20 - when you meet all the criteria of the offer. Try hitting that ! I finally got found all all of the implications of it, but you need to play poker, roulette, slots, blackjack and a oile of other s***e to get close to it.

Nope - ignore the joining offers gimmicks and stick to decent websites like Beyfayre or Bluesquare.

I do all of my betting on there now - no gimmicks, no mess, no fuss.

TonInDublin

When I first heard 'Paddy Power' I didn't realise they were Bookies.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 12:26:57
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ May 25 2008, 12:11 PM) [snapback]451902[/snapback]
Had to look twice there. laugh.gif

Bravo.

...though you were never Iain-he proved to be a real wee keech if you recall!
mortonjag 2008-05-25 12:56:25
QUOTE(The Naitch @ May 25 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]451912[/snapback]
Yes.

You really are being a total p***k today, and outed yourself on the other forum too!

I highlighted the word 'buffon'-nothing more-nothing less-it was an 'in' joke, though you'd have shared it if you spent less time with your head in other web sites! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-25 13:10:16
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 25 2008, 12:46 PM) [snapback]451915[/snapback]
Handing out free drugs does neither the addict nor society any good in the long term, but it's the cheap 'sweep under the carpet' solution that's no real solution at all. Rehabilitation and the provision of meaningful work would be better, and for those who refuse there's the jail. 'Those who will not work shall not eat'. Lenin said that, and he wasn't writing in the Daily Mail. laugh.gif

The trouble is Mr Edwards that neither the addict nor the politician has the slightest interest in the 'long term'.

THAT is the real problem.

Only when we have a benign dictatorship with Mortonjag in charge shall we see true advances.

Mortonjag's motto is 'do unto others as you'd have them do to you' and there would be many mighty public thrashings of little pink botties.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 13:13:37
QUOTE(simple_ton @ May 25 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]451917[/snapback]
I thought "Paddy Power" was something Sellick put in the referee's drink at half time! laugh.gif

I was thinking more along the lines of the Irish Olympics Fencing team.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 13:48:37
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ May 25 2008, 01:29 PM) [snapback]451923[/snapback]
pot, kettle, black are some words that come to mind, t***


Have we met darling? wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-25 13:50:37
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ May 25 2008, 01:30 PM) [snapback]451924[/snapback]
pedo

Back to school child-your spelling is atrocious. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-25 13:58:17
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 25 2008, 01:34 PM) [snapback]451925[/snapback]
Which is my point about the necessary reform of penal policy, Hard labour, slopping out and withdrawal from the ECHR which is a charter for scumbags.

BTW DE the quotation, mibbies auld Ulyanov did use it, but he was stealing again.

2 Thessalonians 3.10


Mar 8:1 In those days the multitude being very great, and having nothing to eat, Jesus called his disciples [unto him], and saith unto them,
Mar 8:2 I have compassion on the multitude, because they have now been with me three days, and have nothing to eat:
Mar 8:3 And if I send them away fasting to their own houses, they will faint by the way: for divers of them came from far.

Mar 8:4 And his disciples answered him, From whence can a man satisfy these [men] with bread here in the wilderness?
Mar 8:5 And he asked them, How many loaves have ye? And they said, Seven.
Mar 8:6 And he commanded the people to sit down on the ground: and he took the seven loaves, and gave thanks, and brake, and gave to his disciples to set before [them]; and they did set [them] before the people.
Mar 8:7 And they had a few small fishes: and he blessed, and commanded to set them also before [them].
Mar 8:8 So they did eat, and were filled: and they took up of the broken [meat] that was left seven baskets.
Mar 8:9 And they that had eaten were about four thousand: and he sent them away
mortonjag 2008-05-25 14:08:24
QUOTE(steveoath @ May 25 2008, 02:06 PM) [snapback]451935[/snapback]

I wondered how long that was going to take Steve-Aye he was frozen out by JM!
mortonjag 2008-05-25 15:24:22
QUOTE(port-ton @ May 25 2008, 02:49 PM) [snapback]451946[/snapback]
the only thing im married to is my incredible hips, and freakishly soft hands.

I can always put up with the softness so long as they're freakish.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 15:27:07
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 25 2008, 03:17 PM) [snapback]451952[/snapback]
It's about time we stopped wasting money on p1sh like this.

For once Col i'm with you, it's a mark of shame to win eurovision.

....and an even bigger mark of shame to drool over that Irish clown of a presenter-forget his bloody name-but he used to do the 'fight on flab' about thirty years ago and it never worked.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 15:32:37
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ May 25 2008, 02:31 PM) [snapback]451943[/snapback]
didn't we meet at the Q& A night, oh no we didn't because you bottled it laugh.gif have you made your mind up who you really are yet? petal-face laugh.gif

As I said to Smiffy the other day-the old ones are always the best-for those who are too witless to think of anything new! tongue.gif

QUOTE(The Naitch @ May 25 2008, 02:58 PM) [snapback]451948[/snapback]
Hmm, not like you to dish out personal insults without provocation. Oh wait, it is.

Get a grip, son.

Oh, and FYI ... where i 'out' myself is none of your business. wink.gif

laugh.gif It's my business if you're close enough for me to get a wee sook-oh and BTW you DID f*ck up on the other forum! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-25 15:40:13
QUOTE(C B @ May 25 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]451950[/snapback]
Another Drugs Test !
Where the hell has all this love for Gardyne come from? The guy was a waste of a Morton jersey !

Although Kevin isn't Ronaldo he's a damn sight more valuable than Gaydyne ! mad.gif

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Hmm CB-whit's this all aboot?


There was a young man called Gardyne
Whose facial features were fine
He seemed quite aloof
Some called him a fudge packer
The poor lad loved women and wine.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 15:42:22
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 25 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]451958[/snapback]
laugh.gif Or 57 year old unreconstructed Marxists on cups of tea.

or old fuds in their sixties and dotage.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 15:43:55
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 25 2008, 03:24 PM) [snapback]451955[/snapback]
Marxist / Atheist that I am, I will concede that there is far more to be learned from in the Bible than in Das Kapital. Lenin after all, was another of those opportunists that I disrespect so much. cool.gif

Politician.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 15:54:49
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 25 2008, 03:48 PM) [snapback]451964[/snapback]
Aye, but he was even worse than that - an assassin. 'Bawheid' as you call him, hasn't reached that stage yet.

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mortonjag 2008-05-25 16:05:46 Thats not a limerick, aloof does not rhyme with packer blink.gif

There was a young fencer named Bates
Whilst scuffing with some of his mates,
fell over his cutlass
which rendered him nutless
and practically useless on dates

See the difference rolleyes.gif
PS ALSO Gaydyne's haircut leaves a lot to be desired[/quote]




If people are judged by their hair
And not how they look when they're naked
It's sure a sad day
If yer Barnett is navy blue
And yer boiled tatties look like they're roasted. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-25 18:04:01
QUOTE(C B @ May 25 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]451969[/snapback]
Right Keats, its just not happening for you - put the monkey on huh.gif

It's me I'm a monkey called Shelley
My Dad's an old fud and he's smelly
The pong from his fart
Broke my stepmother's heart-
She's nice, and she's been on the Telly.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 18:06:20
QUOTE(The Naitch @ May 25 2008, 05:39 PM) [snapback]451972[/snapback]
I don't know whether to laugh or cry... MortonJag is stalking me! ohmy.gif unsure.gif dry.gif wacko.gif

Laugh and the world laughs with you-cry and you cry alone! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-25 20:57:21
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 25 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]452005[/snapback]
I was lead to believe that's what we were getting, QUALITY over QUANTITY

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QUOTE(Tontaster @ May 25 2008, 07:49 PM) [snapback]452007[/snapback]
I dont Think Gardyne was terrible he just wasnt given enough chances to prove himself mind you nobody got a chance under mcinally

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QUOTE(HamCam @ May 25 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]452008[/snapback]
Mediocrity continues to find a home at Cappielow. The human equivalent of a turkey when it loses its head.

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mortonjag 2008-05-25 21:11:23
QUOTE(Cawston @ May 25 2008, 06:51 PM) [snapback]451982[/snapback]
Not trying to be funny (I agree entirely with what you've said) but has the club been asked for this information or is this one of these messageboard situations where they're now taking pelters off the back of a question asked by an anonymous poster who's asking valid questions but to the wrong people?

I'm not trying to be funny either, but I get thoroughly pissed off with folk like yourself flying in the face of common knowledge and reality. Furthermore this poster is NOT anonymous, as anybody who keeps track of the forum -except Rae's well known informants-will tell you! One of the recent posters on this thread asked 'the club' a very pointed question about the youth policy some two weeks back, and not for the first time, 'the club' has seen fit to ignore it. Given the recent discussion of 'the club's' handling of the Annan situation, I'd suggest that 'the club' deserves all the 'pelters' it gets, and some.

QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 25 2008, 07:42 PM) [snapback]452001[/snapback]
indeed

See above, you wearisome one. Sometimes you would do well to acknowledge that Mortonjag SUPPORTS Greenock Morton-if not 'the club'. Sometimes it would be nice to feel that others do the same! rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ May 25 2008, 08:31 PM) [snapback]452015[/snapback]
I think that the crux of the matter is not particularly how the money is spent but that we see evidence of a good sustainable youth policy attracting the best of local talent and in a few seasons delivering results. I'm not fussed how they spend the money particularly as long as the club deliver what they say with regards to the youth setup.

...which is of COURSE the reason for my question.

It IS, however, vital in the interest of good relations between 'the club' and its fans, that 'the club' acknowledges their efforts and demonstrates gratefulness in a gracious manner, instead of the aloof detachment which has come to be the hallmark of 'the club'.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 21:27:58
QUOTE(loyal lass @ May 24 2008, 11:18 PM) [snapback]451819[/snapback]
Wee women hate lofts(attics)that is strictly male territory.

Big women as well in my experience.

QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 25 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]452034[/snapback]
I have some old Cliff Richard LP's union jack flags, photo's of the queen Douglas Rae and the royal family, some Charles and Diana mugs, a Princess Ann wedding video and Princess Di's funeral DVD .. unsure.gif

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QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ May 25 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]452040[/snapback]
Get them on Ebay......at the very worst someone called Big Bad Eck 69 will snap them up for his collection.

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My 'junk drawer' is my car. She even insists on me cleaning that out every other month! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-25 21:33:19
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ May 25 2008, 09:14 PM) [snapback]452043[/snapback]
Interesting letter in the Sunday Herald about the 'white working class' and attacks on the culture by middle-class and multicultural 'intellectuals'. Concludes that in the opinion of the author the country is being 'softened up' to accept the scraping of benefits to said individuals.
Seemed a bit on the hysterical side but I am in agreement that the only three groups left in Britain that can be attacked with impunity are the US, Jews and the white working class, everyone else is off limits.

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junkies/alkies

gretna supporters (x3)

mortonjag
mortonjag 2008-05-25 21:36:21
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 25 2008, 09:07 PM) [snapback]452039[/snapback]
Fcuk me, the sound of one hand clapping. dry.gif

While the other reciprocates to a picture of Nickerless Urgon.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 22:37:32
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ May 25 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]452068[/snapback]
Would you kindly just fck right off? smile.gif

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-25 22:41:23
QUOTE(se65an @ May 25 2008, 10:24 PM) [snapback]452064[/snapback]
Feck, I should have said nothing, next I will be accused of trying to take over the world. Cue Donga rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-05-25 22:43:30
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 25 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]452067[/snapback]
Ohhh Err... rolleyes.gif

Jealousy doesn't become you Spurtle! wink.gif

Aye-it's effin annoying-a wee announcement would be re-assuring-or is it just f*cked?
mortonjag 2008-05-25 22:57:27 In constant pursuit of improvement in the health of my fellow posters I've resurrected this old thread.

Just cast a loving glance over your little friends before they set off on that long journey-anything abnormal should not be ignored. In particular black jobbies, white jobbies, floating jobbies which smell foul, and bloody slimy jobbies should not go without due attention.

Blue jobbies should be auctioned on E-bay, and hedgehog shaped jobbies are, unfortunately, an imaginative figment.

Sometimes it's worth going through the motions, especially if you suspect you've swallowed a foreign body-the easiest way is to place a seive beneath the little chappie as he leaves home, thereafter gently massaging him under running water till he's gone.

I could go on but am afraid I'd be accused of talking a load of rubbish. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-25 23:00:59
QUOTE(manchesterton @ May 25 2008, 10:49 PM) [snapback]452080[/snapback]
I believe there will shortly be an announcement on the official GMFC web site! wink.gif

Source? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-25 23:02:52
QUOTE(se65an @ May 25 2008, 10:45 PM) [snapback]452078[/snapback]
Shh or you will be accused as being part of the Nazi squad wanting to take over all Forums.

Am I right in saying all Polish prossi's were put in consintration camps in WW2

My mum wasn't!
mortonjag 2008-05-25 23:04:33
QUOTE(Deego @ May 25 2008, 11:01 PM) [snapback]452096[/snapback]
I'm the source, as usual.

Please change the avatar-anything else will do-even Mr Rae.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 23:08:26
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 25 2008, 11:00 PM) [snapback]452094[/snapback]
Bristol stool chart anyone?

Of very limited value in reality unless you're a coprophagist looking for a menu!
mortonjag 2008-05-25 23:09:51
QUOTE(se65an @ May 25 2008, 11:08 PM) [snapback]452102[/snapback]
Why not? Heard it was good money at the time blink.gif

Indeed, but she worked in the Port.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 23:11:54
QUOTE(Deego @ May 25 2008, 11:07 PM) [snapback]452100[/snapback]
Why?

Because I cannot abide that mug shot, let alone those who glorify his crap lyrics.

Put Willie Shakespeare on immediately.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 23:13:35
QUOTE(Deego @ May 25 2008, 11:11 PM) [snapback]452106[/snapback]
Who is the biggest dick on the board?

MORTONJAG


There-thread closed! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-25 23:15:25 MORTONJAG[center][/center]
mortonjag 2008-05-25 23:17:35
QUOTE(Deego @ May 25 2008, 11:14 PM) [snapback]452112[/snapback]
You're more of a fud.

Now, now-you'll be upsetting people if you start using words like fud or buffoon-we don't want to irritate the big knobs!
mortonjag 2008-05-25 23:19:24
QUOTE(Deego @ May 25 2008, 11:16 PM) [snapback]452115[/snapback]
blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif

What about Shakespeare's sister? biggrin.gif

http://youtube.com/watch?v=E-9itxGIt_c

Don't be obtuse-Port ton will explain if you've forgotten already.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 23:22:32
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 25 2008, 11:18 PM) [snapback]452117[/snapback]
Or looking for an immature giggle.

....*giggles*

I do have to say that the pictures bear little resemblance to the real thing. I've seen a more realistic plastic keech oot a joke shop-BUT this is a serious thread, and if it's very itchy when you're dumping, you've probably got worms.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 23:24:28
QUOTE(port-ton @ May 25 2008, 11:22 PM) [snapback]452123[/snapback]
i will? i love being an important part of this love triangle, so ill be as acute as ever and you two can be obtuse.

F*ck Pythagoras then? sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-25 23:26:09
QUOTE(se65an @ May 25 2008, 11:11 PM) [snapback]452105[/snapback]
Listen my nmae is se65an, accept it or go get yirself a new chef, but I will tell you, am the best. I can cook a brilliant scrabbled egg on toast in 7 mins

Nope-you're the Sioux Chef-only chapatis an fingz.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 23:27:39
QUOTE(Deego @ May 25 2008, 11:21 PM) [snapback]452121[/snapback]
mortonjag is a fud.

Signed Shoogly.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 23:31:39
QUOTE(Deego @ May 25 2008, 11:27 PM) [snapback]452127[/snapback]
i agree
about gardyne
he isnt a winger

you're right, he wasn't he worst signed by JM
finlayson was
i'm sorry you were upset

adam coakley was better
than people made him out to be


The monkey and

I are

Tired so it's goodnight from

Me and it's

Goodnight from

Him goodnight.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 07:28:11
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ May 26 2008, 12:27 AM) [snapback]452138[/snapback]
I used to play in goals for the old Albert team and can thoroughly recommend this game to anyone. I played in teams where we beat Dunoon although the last one I can remember was over there in 1997!!!!!

I'm too old to play now but if you're desperate for a goalkeeper call me.

Do you wear tee shirts?
mortonjag 2008-05-26 07:31:50
QUOTE(Rossco @ May 26 2008, 12:57 AM) [snapback]452145[/snapback]
Not funny at all mocking Peter for being dyslexic.

Would you be doing this if he hadn't slated station you have a slot on?

Thats one thing have noticed about your postings on here you can not take any criticism at all in anything you are involved in.

You got defensive over the stick official site took even though the criticism was aimed mostly at the club.

Now getting defensive over the your radio coverage.

The reason it puts work that hospital radio/inverclyde media do is because it is mostly voluntary work well I know the Hospital radio was & is something Peter has put a lot of time & effort into.

For your Radio to extend licence into this area when not supposed to or aren't paying for the priviledge hampers inverclydemedia from expanding.
Please do not upset the afflicted.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 07:36:15
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ May 25 2008, 11:38 PM) [snapback]452133[/snapback]
For those who like double entry (OOOHHH ERRRRR MISSUSS!)

Money received

Debit Bank
Credit Donations Received

Money spent on youth costs

Debit Youth Costs
Credit Bank.

I would assume
that is how the income will be recorded at Cappielow. This will then be collated, along with other financial transactions, into what are commonly called Management Accounts. These accounts are reviewed by the Board of Directors at their regular meetings. Any Director can ask questions on the accounts that have been presented to their meetings.

Once a year, these accounts are put into the correct format and are submitted for Audit. Bear in mind that the turnover at Cappielow is well below the audit threshhold so strictyly speaking an independent verification of the account, ie an audit, is not a statutory necessity. These accounts are then finalised, an audit opinion is offered by the independant auditor, and the accounts are circulated to shareholders before the annual general meeting. At the AGM any shareholder is entitled to question the accounts that have been produced.

Of course, I acknowledge that the accounts produced do so in an aggregate manner in that individual transactions become relatively hard to break down. I would imagine if money was "donated" for a specific purpose then it would be very simple to produce an analysis that shows where the income and expenditure went. Expenditure on the new disabled ramp would be such a case in point whereby donations could be ring fenced and "mini" accounts produced to highlight where the money went.

it is also worth noting that doing all of these has an administrative overhead - it costs money and time to produce all of theses mini statements. The Board of Directors would need to consider the costs involved against the benefits that could be accrued in this respect.

Hopefull this addresses MJ's question....

It does and thank you.

You merely make assumptions.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 07:41:41
QUOTE(Toby @ May 26 2008, 02:36 AM) [snapback]452161[/snapback]
I'm sure you're aware I'm thinking of a rather comical moment at Dunterlie Park, Barrhead last summer laugh.gif .



'Finally, after a scene with Andy and Teddy playing in their cart and a scene with Looby Loo singing her song, the two male characters return to their basket and wave good-bye and it's.......

Time to go home, time to go home
Andy is waving goodbye, goodbye' happy.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 07:50:30
QUOTE(port-ton @ May 25 2008, 11:32 PM) [snapback]452132[/snapback]
you've definetely done a complete 180o on your thoughts about pythagoras.

Are euclidding?
mortonjag 2008-05-26 07:54:19
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ May 26 2008, 12:21 AM) [snapback]452137[/snapback]
One does not 'cook' on a BBQ one 'heats' and in any case a charcoal BBQ is preferred over the gas option as the charcoal flavours the food . I despise the vulgarity of the BBQ. Drinking 'beer' rather than wine when preparing food is simply not on.

Next you'll be claiming that you "cook" with your microwave.

We've had this argument before from those who equate cooking with cremation, though there's nothing wrong with a good bier.

QUOTE(port-ton @ May 26 2008, 12:43 AM) [snapback]452141[/snapback]
what did you think of the chatuex '42 vintage red? it cleansed my palate undeniably but i felt it to be rather exuberant in the shade and texture department. It completely ruined my BBQ if im being honest.

I'd prefer to get into a cheeky wee three year old Californian any day.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 08:00:03
QUOTE(alexp @ May 26 2008, 01:15 AM) [snapback]452151[/snapback]
F1 thread tongue.gif
kind of died with vikington's disappearance wink.gif

while i like kimi, i agree. he should be ashamed for taking out sutil dry.gif

btw, it's montreal, not toronto. wink.gif smile.gif




QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 13 2008, 06:02 PM) *
I'm sure Alonso will make Hamilton's life difficult when being lapped.
Raikkonen to win - Ferrari dominant.
As it should be. cool.gif

Hamilton's a one off. His talent is ahead of his years and he'll win hands down this time.

This post has been edited by mortonjag: Mar 13 2008, 07:04 PM tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 08:04:11 In those days of mysteriously crashing servers, I have to say that the pictorially excellent official site has NEVER let me down. Time after time after time I've been able to read last month's news at my leisure in the sure certainty that it will still be there next time I log on.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 08:09:08 SEE-gloriously sunny morning-I've been up for hours, Munx and I have had our walk in the park, my beloved has been served breakfast in bed,and Fing's just finishing the Herald crossword for me as I type. It just feels good to be alive.

Inverclyde sleeps! blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 08:17:19 As above with a basic Gibson amp. and 'phones. I also have a virtually unused Yamaha keyboard (not one of the big posh ones).

The guitar is a beautiful peac***... blue mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif TURQUOISE THEN mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif and in excellent nick. I don't know its age as I purchased it second hand from a reputable dealer about five years ago (cost ~ £400 then).

I only play my accoustic now as I live in a flat next to Noddy and Big Ears, so I'd be willing to part with that lot for any offer that I did not regard offensive. (the guitar etc.... the neighbours are thrown in for nothing)

pm the Jag if interested.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 08:27:35
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 26 2008, 08:10 AM) [snapback]452174[/snapback]
So, MJ, is THAT it?

Everyone, we solved the "issues" with MJ..... tongue.gif
Just kidding, mate. smile.gif

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I do believe there's a crumb of truth in that old saying Trick.

There's really no secret to my endless talent, ability, and charm-I was simply born perfect and improved with age.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 08:30:53
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 26 2008, 08:27 AM) [snapback]452177[/snapback]
Come back and tell us all about it when you have a 7061 & 7062. rolleyes.gif

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I know how you feel-some c*nts on this board would tell me in detail how to insert a catheter. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 08:35:17
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 26 2008, 08:31 AM) [snapback]452179[/snapback]
(*Spits coffee all over his laptop*)

Ye jest, of course.

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Mortonjag's ineffable brilliance is no jesting matter.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 08:37:01
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ May 26 2008, 08:33 AM) [snapback]452180[/snapback]
I'm up, showered, dressed, had my breakfast and coffee and ready to go.

I feel old.

That is indeed the province of the young. Just try feeling yourself! happy.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 08:40:48
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 26 2008, 08:08 AM) [snapback]452172[/snapback]
Today is Memorial Day in the States. It's one of two days that we reflect on those who have served in our military in the past, and those who are serving now. (The other day is Veterans' Day, which is 11 November....your Remembrance Day, I believe.)

Although this is an American holiday, I'd like to take the time to say "thank you" to my military brothers and sisters (past and present) on this board, as well as to their family members that have served, and are serving now. My hat's off to you!

(*Stands up and gives a sharp salute in gratitude.*)

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In those days of rampant anti-States fever over here, folk would do well to remember the input of our American brothers in the defeat of Hitler's Reich.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 08:42:44
QUOTE(se65an @ May 26 2008, 08:34 AM) [snapback]452181[/snapback]
Who needs a 7061 or a 7062 when I have a tesco value toaster at £4.99

Ours lasted four months Sean-FACT!
mortonjag 2008-05-26 08:46:38
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ May 26 2008, 08:38 AM) [snapback]452184[/snapback]
Not good, MJ! I still feel old. unsure.gif

How do you wish to feel young man? It's all about your selfish team as the Monkey describes it.

I believe you are young, intelligent, handsome, and witty. Don't let the wee willy hold you back-it's what you do with it that counts-or so the Polis keep telling me.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 08:58:06
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ May 26 2008, 08:52 AM) [snapback]452188[/snapback]
Oh. Old to you must be pre-historic to me.

I meant I feel twice my age. smile.gif

I can give you some therapy-port ton's my agent!

QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 26 2008, 08:53 AM) [snapback]452189[/snapback]
MortonJag and brilliance are an oxymoron in a sentence together......unless, of course, you say "MortonJag has the brilliance of an amoeba." tongue.gif laugh.gif smile.gif

That is the epitome of oxymoron-any amoeba I've ever met has been dazzlingly dull.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 09:03:52
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 26 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]452190[/snapback]
That, sir, was VERY much appreciated. Thank you. smile.gif

'Lest we forget' Trick.

My Dad died two years ago and my Mum's still alive They lived through those years of austerity-my Mum tells of months on end when she didn't even know if my dad (stationed abroad) was alive or dead. The stories are endless and sometimes still bring a tear to the eye.

Today's youngsters really DON'T know they're living.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 09:58:55
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 26 2008, 07:58 AM) [snapback]452169[/snapback]
Over 106,000 at the league cup final. As for the B&Q final, I'm pretty sure we had at least as many as Hamilton - we do have a bigger support than them - and they weren't an SPL club because SPL clubs didn't take part in that competition.

My first game was in April or May 1963 at home to Queens Park. I think we won 4-1.

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I was of course tongue in cheek about Hamilton who currently have an inflated opinion of their value and potential. They have done extremely well-we would do worse than to emulate them, but they don't have the fan base to sustain financial security in the top league.

mortonjag 2008-05-26 10:01:34
QUOTE(The Naitch @ May 26 2008, 09:35 AM) [snapback]452207[/snapback]
What's your point, caller?

My point is that Jim Thomson scored a crackin' goal on Saturday! I thought you would have understood that!
mortonjag 2008-05-26 10:04:12
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 26 2008, 09:14 AM) [snapback]452195[/snapback]
Beer is not needed. I find that a beaker of the warm south is most fitting.

Charcoal is the way to go.

...and you a good Tim! ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 10:11:33
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 26 2008, 10:04 AM) [snapback]452213[/snapback]
Mr Mileson appears to have made a remarkable recovery from his vegetative state. Maybe it was a typo and what was meant was that he had become a vegetarian.

http://boards.footymad.net/mboard/fmb.php?...;mid=2129470413
(I can't seem to get that thing where you put in a witty phrase instead of the url as the link to work)

If you google Mileson on Wikipedia he's now stated to be broke with a personal overdraft of half a million!

I suspect his legal and accountancy teams will be able to keep him ahead of the pack-that's the way those pond life survive.

Meanwhile I believe it's Wilson Field's incestuous relationship with the SPL which ought to be exposed, and that's where I believe the local MSP/MP should be getting involved.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 10:14:32
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 26 2008, 09:27 AM) [snapback]452203[/snapback]
Cousin!

(Wouldn't you just love that!) smile.gif tongue.gif
You really should quit having discussions with yourself, mate. tongue.gif

I can't think of a single soul who's better company!
mortonjag 2008-05-26 10:16:45
QUOTE(Malt @ May 26 2008, 10:10 AM) [snapback]452214[/snapback]
Still no confirmation that he is a Morton Player?

That appears to be the case!
mortonjag 2008-05-26 11:22:12
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 26 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]452222[/snapback]
It was a belter!

Q: What's got an IQ of 250 and doesn't make a sound?

A: The entire Rangers support when JT's header hit the back of the net.

The Naitch may feel offended! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 11:26:05
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 26 2008, 10:24 AM) [snapback]452219[/snapback]
And using a fans forum works wonders? laugh.gif

Do not underestimate the value of fans' forums young man!
mortonjag 2008-05-26 11:29:26
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 26 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]452235[/snapback]
Bigotry 3- Fitba 2

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mortonjag 2008-05-26 11:41:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 26 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]452238[/snapback]
Today's youngsters really DON'T know they're living.

Too right, MJ.

My father was 17 when Greenock was bombed in 1941.

They lived in Brachelston Street and several buildings took direct hits.

My grandmother signed his volunteer papers the next day.

He served in east Africa, India and Burma and was mentioned in despatches.

An incendiary bomb landed in my Grand Dad's back garden in Bawhirley Road-they were very lucky to escape unscathed.

The tenement next to my other Grandparents in Belville St was flattened-many friends perished. A huge bomb crater lay about fifty yards down the hill for many many years after the war.

Greenock escaped lightly compared to Clydebank.

On a funny but sad note, my Grand Dad was charged and taken to court for not turning up for 'blackout duty'. He was admonished when he explained he was a widower with six children to care for-they could not be left alone overnight.

When the air raid warnings went, they all used to huddle under the big wooden kitchen table-as if that would have really made much difference with a direct hit-just think of the terror those poor kids must have experienced.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 12:22:26
QUOTE(The Naitch @ May 26 2008, 11:50 AM) [snapback]452256[/snapback]
You really are getting more cryptic as the days roll by. huh.gif blink.gif












QUOTE(mortonjag @ May 25 2008, 10:19 AM) *
There's a lesson to be learned by some of our younger posters when they write off potential signings as 'over the hill'. Yesterday we had Thomson scoring a cracking goal in the Scottish cup final, and Windass in his fortieth year achieving even greater things.

If you're good enough, you're young enough!


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Have I missed something? unsure.gif

mortonjag 2008-05-26 12:32:49 Our fans never cease to amaze me. Time after time when folk pled for experience the reply came-'where are we going to get it'-'there's no money' etc., etc.

It's clear that Davie Irons is on a strictly limited budget, and deserves credit for making what will hopefully be astute signings.

Please don't let's get carried away-we've still no full backs and no wingers. The options are increasing though-that's good to see.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 12:39:29
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 26 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]452254[/snapback]
Would that have been next to the old Belville School, between Belville Street and St Lawrence Street?

I was brought up right across the street and can just about remember the school and the waste ground next to it was called the 'Bombees' as it was where a German bomb had landed.

What a great adventure playground that was.

It was just as the hill levels out at the top-probably level with the middle block of high flats. There was an area of waste ground below and the bomb crater was right in the middle-though my memories are from the fifties.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 12:41:53
QUOTE(WillowMan @ May 26 2008, 12:03 PM) [snapback]452262[/snapback]
I have a Junk Room and after reading this thread I went and explored it.

Unfortunately I found Mrs Willowwoman in it, she was dead of course and I've no idea how long she's been lying there amongst the junk.

Cela Vie

Willowlady! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 12:43:23
QUOTE(port-ton @ May 26 2008, 12:28 PM) [snapback]452277[/snapback]
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i've seen people arrested for a lot lot less.

That's why I left Inverclyde.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 13:33:19
QUOTE(The Naitch @ May 26 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]452287[/snapback]
The only cracking goal I saw on Saturday was Boyd's free kick. wink.gif

Now you are being VERY knotty-bend over boy-WALLOP, WALLOP! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 13:53:14
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ May 26 2008, 01:15 PM) [snapback]452302[/snapback]
Whilst it's a worthy and admirable effort, I have disagreed many times with the fundraising for the disabled area and ramp. Why should the fans pay out of their own pockets so that Morton's disabled support can reach and watch the game in safety and comfort. In a bid to reach out to the entire local community and attract the bums on seats Rae craves, surely funding access improvements and making Cappielow an enjoyable place to watch football should come straight from the club? This wrankles with me more than the youth setup to be honest.

I believe you've highlighted a very important point-that of 'divide and rule'.

It enrages me, for example, that Rae flouts all official guidance and common sense by, I'm led to understand, refusing to purchase a defibrillator for use on match days. Some clown claimed recently that the 'club doctor-Dr Speirs carries one in his case'! rolleyes.gif

The tabloids could have a field day on this one if, God forbid, a player succumbed for the want of the equipment.

Many of us have specialist knowledge, but that should not deflect our attention from the bigger picture, namely that the club is run in a very amateurish way with scant regard for the paying customer. Indeed one could be forgiven for feeling that the current Chairman believes the fans have a DUTY to him.

DUTY or not, money which is donated to 'the club' for a specific purpose MUST be seen to reach its intended goal.

Airy fairy assumptions about future accounting for statutary purposes are fatuous in the extreme.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 14:06:43
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 26 2008, 01:43 PM) [snapback]452318[/snapback]
Things are shaping up nicely indeed Col, but I'll be happier still when we sign a good striker.

Away an bile yer heid Edwards-we have four strikers, no wingers, no full backs, and one goalie! laugh.gif

To avoid the inevitable-Spoonsy (who was, is, and always will be a striker), LEAFY, super Khali, and Graham.

Some may wish to append our latest striker signing Kevin Finlayson, and of course we also have Jimbo, Jenkins, and McGuffie-all of whom have in the past been described as 'strikers'.

I'm happy that the squad is stronger and more experienced-it already has a mid table look-next signing should be somebody who knows how to put over a good cross-that's what makes strikers work! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 14:15:10 Hee hee-the short memories of the average fan!

Spoonsy's ability is MILES ahead of Khali's.

A decent winger- a fit and motivated Weatherson, and Wakey will be warming the bench or worse.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 14:16:49
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 26 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]452309[/snapback]
Any pics of it Jagermeister?

I'll get one on for tomorrow BH!
mortonjag 2008-05-26 14:19:38
QUOTE(port-ton @ May 26 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]452289[/snapback]
i always wondered why you left just as i turned 4 years old.

It was two years ago PT not last year.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 14:26:29
QUOTE(WillowMan @ May 26 2008, 01:20 PM) [snapback]452304[/snapback]
WillowWarmer rolleyes.gif

Depends how long she's been deid.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 14:44:43
QUOTE(The Naitch @ May 26 2008, 02:38 PM) [snapback]452348[/snapback]
Well, he's at that age. rolleyes.gif

Don't be a silly Billy-Boy!
mortonjag 2008-05-26 14:53:30
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 26 2008, 02:28 PM) [snapback]452340[/snapback]
Away and bile yer ain MJ. I said one good striker, I know we've got four of various other kinds. biggrin.gif

I mentioned EIGHT

Now let's be realistic-the past is past-Spoonsy had a stinker of a season like 75% of the squad under JM.

Anybody who can't see his potential is just not trying. To think that half our posters have been coming in their short trousers over a man who spend most of the season running about in circles-I ask you- and Super Khali -well one swallow doth not a summer make though it can get you done for drunk driving-where was I-oh aye strikers...



SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A STRIKER


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mortonjag 2008-05-26 14:58:05
QUOTE(forza ton @ May 26 2008, 01:54 PM) [snapback]452323[/snapback]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrtS0dCIJzw an under rated band if ever there was one

that is all

Heard better (and similar) on a Sunday School trip! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 15:01:25 Has NOBODY done a jobby today-what are they putting in the Inverclyde water-wait-I think I know who's to blame! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 15:15:03
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ May 26 2008, 03:10 PM) [snapback]452357[/snapback]
Hasnt Irons said he is signing a Striker and Goal Keeper and thats all ??

I reckon he is playing 3 at the back Deego so no need for a left back

So no wingers and no full backs-but ANOTHER bloody striker.

Another season of long balls, long thrown ins, and long yarns awaits by the look of it. Never mind-winning is the priority.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 17:09:03
QUOTE(paul_ton @ May 26 2008, 04:39 PM) [snapback]452383[/snapback]
i did say that my source was a reliable one at that but none of you believed me apart from leyTon so trust me next time

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Anybody who believes rumours on those forums is bonkers-anybody who disbelieves them is also bonkers.

Anyone who says- I'll wait and see is bonkers too-well you kinda have to be to support the Ton.

C'mon ye TON!
mortonjag 2008-05-26 17:16:04
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 26 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]452372[/snapback]
I'll give you a couple of quotes. who said this ? "One may dislike Hitler's system and yet admire his patriotic achievement. If our country were defeated, I hope we should find a champion as admirable to restore our courage and lead us back to our place among the nations."

and this

"I do not admit... that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America, or the black people of Australia... by the fact that a stronger race, a higher grade race... has come in and taken its place."

and this

"I do not understand the squeamishness about the use of gas. I am strongly in favour of using poisonous gas against uncivilised tribes" rolleyes.gif

I love wee quizzes Spurtle but don't quite see their point on this thread!

Politics and amorality make comfortable bedfellows-who said that?

Well it wasn't Churchill for a start-no it was Mortonjag! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 17:18:20
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 26 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]452373[/snapback]
I always drop tremendous jobbies after a heavy night on the swally. Gets the back of the legs wet and everything.

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...and you wonder if it's just water splashing up and put you hand down to check and..... laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 17:36:32
QUOTE(nach0king @ May 26 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]452390[/snapback]
I'm not trying to disrespect anyone here and I do have respect for those who serve, but I'd say since WW2 the tendency in the USA and the UK both has been for freedoms to be restricted during times of war to quite a severe extent.

Of course that's not an indictment of the soldiers - rather it's one of politicians.

As I say, no disrespect meant by this but I think the above isn't really true.

The thread is about memorial day-first introduced after the 'Civil War'.

The role of the soldier is to obey commands-NOT to question the morality of his masters.

The quoted excerpt is very real for me in terms of the last time our nation came under threat from unwanted forces. I don't believe many people condone war, but in some circumstances it is surely a necessary evil.

My father certainly had no choice-he gave up six years of his young life, and his subsequent career prospects were significantly hampered as he fought for King and Country.

In his case, I'd suggest that the quoted lines are entirely appropriate-indeed, as they suggest, without him and so many like him, posting fanciful notions on unofficial football messageboards would probably be an impossibility.

Memorial days are not a time for scoring cheap political points.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 21:03:52
QUOTE(ThornTON @ May 26 2008, 07:38 PM) [snapback]452429[/snapback]
Looking at league goals. One a legend. One a "total waste of space".

Rowan Alexander 98 in 310 = 0.316 p/game
Peter Weatherson 59 in 166 = 0.355 p/game

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QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ May 26 2008, 08:14 PM) [snapback]452449[/snapback]
I think this is what Masterton has been signed for. His ability to deliver a decent cross is amongst the best in this division. You may recall he came on against us at Cappielow and his crosses were responsible for the two late goals. I also saw him against Alloa and Airdrie in the play off games at Broadwood and his crosses caused mayhem in the penalty area. He has the happy knack of consistently dropping the ball into that area that catches the goallie in will I/won't I come for it territory and that impacts badly on the rest of the defence. Three of Clyde's goals against Alloa came from that.



If you are talking about a 'hit the byeline and cross or cut back' winger, Finlayson has been improving in that area for some time and I think can do a job for us. McAllister is also good at hitting the byeline but needs to work on his end product.



I'm sure Masterton will be an asset in certain situations and he's a good signing.

I wish I could share your optimism about Finlayson and McAlister-frankly their ability to 'get the ball over' be it a high cross, a cut back, or just a speculative belt across the face of the goal, is nothing short of abysmal. Indeed it has improved a little of late - particularly in Kev's case - to the degree where you now expect at least two decent crosses in a game.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 21:06:41 There's no money left. If DI signs another striker given the remaining gaps in the squad, he's lost his bloody marbles.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 21:21:44
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ May 26 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]452416[/snapback]
Dear Doctor

When i was a young man, and capable of downing more than four pints of guinness without making a tit of myself, I used to produce tremendous black jobbies after a night on the guinness. I always assumed that this was the iron escaping. Was I correct?

You were correct in assuming that the Guinness was producing dark jobbies, though I don't think it's caused by iron so much as simply by a staining effect-the same can occur in folk addicted to liquorice. Iron supplements cause dark motions too-sometimes they are black, but nothing quite simulates the black 'tarry' jobby (melaena) associated with altered blood in the bowel.

Beetroot can cause alarming 'beeturia' simulating bright red blood in the widdles-but this thread's about jobbies.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 21:30:07
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 26 2008, 05:28 PM) [snapback]452407[/snapback]
I can't quite see the link either, d'ye think he OD'ed on heather ale?

Not Spurtle-he's a peaty punch man!

mortonjag 2008-05-26 21:32:14
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 26 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]452457[/snapback]
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The only thing he is fast in is when he driving like a maniac in his wee car laugh.gif

Anyway, i'll go for the folk from Cappielow who hide behind id's on here wink.gif

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The infiltrators! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 21:37:09
QUOTE(piehutt @ May 26 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]452418[/snapback]
Holiday Insurance is for poofs!

Trust Professor Piehole to yet again state the obvious, though straight folk are allowed to purchase too.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 21:40:38
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 26 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]452472[/snapback]
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ooooooops-I forgot about the sportsmans' dinner and the fans' footy match! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 21:42:58 I was talking to a physio this afternoon.

It seems there may be some truth in this story.

Cappie is also in for the snip I believe.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 21:47:35
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 26 2008, 09:42 PM) [snapback]452493[/snapback]
Going by all the latest posts

Deego is trying to catch up with MJ on the post count laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-05-26 21:51:12
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 26 2008, 03:40 PM) [snapback]452362[/snapback]
what size / wattage is the amp?

Just a basic 100 watt-I'll try to show it alongside the guitar.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 21:55:24
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 26 2008, 09:48 PM) [snapback]452498[/snapback]
Hindsight is a wonderful thing......At the end of the day, Germany invading Poland had nothing to do with Scotland, so I could understand where they were coming from on that one.

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mortonjag 2008-05-26 21:56:51
QUOTE(Deego @ May 26 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]452500[/snapback]
Naw, his burd is Lorraine, remember?
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mortonjag 2008-05-26 21:59:20 I thank God for giving me a glorious day.

If it wasn't God, I thank whoever was responsible.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 22:04:53
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ May 26 2008, 09:56 PM) [snapback]452506[/snapback]
But oh aye, bring back McGowan! laugh.gif

While acknowledging the high proportion of graduates, qualified tradesmen, and trainee clergymen among the Professional footballing fraternity, it must be accepted that the occasional 'wee ned' has made a successful career out of kicking a ball.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 22:08:04
QUOTE(leyTON @ May 26 2008, 10:03 PM) [snapback]452512[/snapback]
ah thats him

Quiche Lorraine?
mortonjag 2008-05-26 22:11:51
QUOTE(MasterTon @ May 26 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]452514[/snapback]
Well spotted Bryan, But would rather see how the first six games pan out before i make judgement of the team. Winning last two games was great but we were playing deadwood who had nothing to play for. And yes, I'm looking forward to the new season but i really think it will end up in tears with those two at the back.

Ian

I suspect you may be correct-without a dwarf in central defence they will struggle.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 22:48:37
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 26 2008, 10:33 PM) [snapback]452520[/snapback]
I thought only dugs in the 60s and early 70s produced white jobbies? unsure.gif

You've been eating too much Belgian chocolate-dogs rarely live beyond 15.

There are many causes of pale stools apart from white paint-the most common being obstructive jaundice-also known to produce orange Tims.

Malabsorption of food produces steatorrhoea-pale and highly smelly jobbies which float on the water-Barium meals produce heavy white unflushable sh*te.

mortonjag 2008-05-26 22:57:13
QUOTE(se65an @ May 26 2008, 10:37 PM) [snapback]452523[/snapback]
You'll get barred for saying that rolleyes.gif

Ah stuff it, he's right, its been as slow as a a bank holiday weekend in Dalrymple Street for months.

David you need to get this sorted mate, been down a few time recently(like today) as well

Thank goodness others are having the same problem-it's been driving me nuts-VERY annoying.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 22:59:08
QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 26 2008, 10:57 PM) [snapback]452531[/snapback]
If you can find yer willy! laugh.gif

...and his bum.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 23:05:58
QUOTE(drobton @ May 26 2008, 10:00 PM) [snapback]452510[/snapback]
But isn't a striker one of the remaining gaps, or are you happy with just Wake, Russell and Graham.

I believe the lack of a striker is one of the biggest myths at Cappielow and Spoonsy's the best of the lot.

The truth is that for over two seasons we've hardly seen a decent cross into the box, and the through ball's become a thing of the past. If you don't believe me-just look at the difference Pantaloons made when he arrived-PURELY because he was able to put bloody throw ins into the box.

We need a goalie, at least one full back, and an effective wide player before the luxury of yet another striker.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 23:08:55
QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 26 2008, 11:00 PM) [snapback]452533[/snapback]
steady! laugh.gif

Just sticking up for the minority! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 23:23:06
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 26 2008, 11:16 PM) [snapback]452540[/snapback]
It's always an excellent feeling when dropping a jobby after a night out on the booze and a late night kebab. Although there is nothing worse than a jaggy-jobby where yer arse starts to sweat and ye slide off the pan.

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mortonjag 2008-05-26 23:25:13
QUOTE(GeorgeMichaelTon @ May 26 2008, 11:22 PM) [snapback]452544[/snapback]
Dr Sexjag, can you tell an old rocker if jobbies can give any indications of STD's?

That b*****d Ridgley wants to know. Not me, Ridgley. He's such a tart.

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I'm sure there will be some vague symptoms/signs but diseases of the Willie tend to spare its receptacle!
mortonjag 2008-05-26 23:27:20
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 26 2008, 11:20 PM) [snapback]452543[/snapback]
A good pipe leads to a good post.

QED!
mortonjag 2008-05-26 23:40:49
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 26 2008, 11:28 PM) [snapback]452553[/snapback]
Jagster, while yer dishing out the free medical advice, what's the best way to deal with acid reflux?

It's doing my head in! Or throat to be more precise.

It's such a common condition-where to start?

Are you overweight-do you smoke-do you drink too much? wink.gif

Forgetting that, and of course a sensible diet, there are many preparations which can neutralise acid or prevent its production. Gaviscon is a tried and trusted favourite, and cimetidine or ranitidine are now available over the counter, though the dosages are very small and it's an expensive business.

It's always best, of course, to consult your quack, just in case you're missing a duodenal ulcer, hiatus hernia, or something less common.

Emergency treatment-chilled milk-white bread-ice cream etc.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 07:23:34
QUOTE(Kekkoman @ May 26 2008, 11:52 PM) [snapback]452558[/snapback]
I have to say i agree wi the old todger. Unless we arent planning on using full back next season? but still obviously a keeper and an effective wide player should take priority over another striker

Hey you-less of the 'todger' if you don't mind-it's kindness to old todgers week in Belgium where they're known as 'Les Tetes Vides'.

Fud, fool, freak, phanny or slevering old c*nt are OK.

Your post highlights the problems with Shoogly being skint. The modern game is obsessed with 'formations', but I've always believed in trying to second guess the opposition. Not having full backs or wingers in the squad limits that possibility.


INDISPUTABLE FACT! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-27 07:32:18
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ May 27 2008, 12:23 AM) [snapback]452565[/snapback]
well i was buying zantac for a stomach ulcer, cos i couldnt get a prescription for esomeprazole 40mg quickly enough, the zantac was something like 4 quid a box, discovered tesco sell their own make of ranitidine 75mg for a quid for 12 tablets!
so what is the difference between ranitidine and esomeprazole? answer please doc cos they both seem to do the same thing!


Proton pump inhibitors (or "PPI"s) are a group of drugs whose main action is pronounced and long-lasting reduction of gastric acid production. They are the most potent inhibitors of acid secretion available today. The group followed and has largely superseded another group of pharmaceuticals with similar effects, but different mode-of-action, called H2-receptor antagonists. These drugs are among the most widely-selling drugs in the world as a result of their outstanding efficacy and safety.[1] Structurally, the vast majority of these drugs are benzimidazole derivatives; however, promising new research indicates that imidazopyridine derivatives may be a more effective means of treatment


Omeprazole and its derivatives are proton pump inhibitors, and have been found in many cases to be slightly more effective than H2 antagonists in preventing acid production. For everyday use, the advantage is probably much less than is often claimed.

It's always best to have a proper diagnosis established before self treatment, as those kind of drugs have very occasionally been known to mask early symptoms of stomach cancer.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 07:36:54
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 27 2008, 12:49 AM) [snapback]452573[/snapback]
Churchill was an obnoxious, racist, mysogynistic, imperialistic alcoholic who was drunk for the duration of WW2. You can't blame the era that he was born in for his rotten character - I'm sure that there were many of his generation who didn't share his reactionary views. However, his talent as a war leader emerged and matured just in time (he had failed miserably in WW1 with Gallipoli) and he was simply the right kind of jingoistic b*****d to rally and inspire the people of these islands to stave off the Nazi menace.

Indeed-Machiavelli before folk whose 'hearts are in the right place' if you want a job done properly Mr Edwards. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-27 07:41:41
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ May 27 2008, 07:34 AM) [snapback]452589[/snapback]
Finally a post where I can agree with the old todger laugh.gif

Will you be out selling Pis en Lits today for 'Les tetes vides'?
mortonjag 2008-05-27 13:37:52
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ May 27 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]452595[/snapback]
Peter may have his faults, but he's not a ned. I was thinking more along the lines of Gardyne, McLaughlin, Keenan and McAnespie. smile.gif
I know Paul McGowan and you'll never meet a quieter, more professional player. Did you ever hear anything bad about him during his time at Morton? Thought not. Yet another post from someone who doesn't know what they're talking about. tongue.gif

It's refreshing to hear that you DO know something Smiffy. The Jag also knows what he's talking about too, so why do you constantly claim otherwise?

There again, maybe you don't know Gowsa from a bran flake-would you care to PROVE your allegations-I suspect you've just got a personal vendetta against Greacen's Genitals-oh wait- did he shag your girlfriend-the slevering incontinent young fool? laugh.gif

QUOTE(pgmsc @ May 27 2008, 09:52 AM) [snapback]452598[/snapback]
But that is this board ST if you don't know anything make it up then go on to P&B and post the same message. There is not a lot you can do about it but if makes them feel important let them continue

I wish some folk who DO know things would have more courage of their convictions on this board. PLENTY is know about the youth set up for example.


I am correct? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-27 13:44:44
QUOTE(Tontaster @ May 27 2008, 12:34 PM) [snapback]452643[/snapback]
Why the hell do people want to get rid of weatherson okay he is slow but he scored ten goals last season which is the best in the team if he had scored two goals then fine but ten that isnt that bad .

People are entitled to their opinions-Spoonsy's a 'waste of space' except when he's knocking in the goals, when he's a 'waste of space waiting to happen'! wacko.gif

SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A WASTE OF SPACE!


That's what they believe-quite simple really! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-27 13:50:55 Aye f*ck Dundee-what right have they spending money on players and decent wages when we're skint-that's not the way it's supposed to work-the niggardly miser types deserve all the success.

Indeed the world owes them a living.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 13:54:23
QUOTE(se65an @ May 27 2008, 07:33 AM) [snapback]452588[/snapback]
I always thought Cappie was a female, as you can't help but notice that there is no wobble bits down there tongue.gif

Females get 'the snip' too Sean-though if you read the match programme, Cappie seems to think it's a Tom!
mortonjag 2008-05-27 14:00:10
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 27 2008, 11:53 AM) [snapback]452630[/snapback]
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=570097

Would something like this happen in Scotland ?

Camden has a VERY small Muslim population ... 90%+ of students would have 30 miles of bus travel daily - each way.

And some bloody daft politicians had the Camden railway line pulled up in the late 1950s and the land sold.

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Tensions reached a climax in November when two pigs heads were rammed on metal stakes with an Australian flag draped between them at the school's proposed site.


I almost cried laughing at the thought of Bawheid and Wee Nickerless gazing vacantly across a saltire!
mortonjag 2008-05-27 14:02:07
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 27 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]452644[/snapback]
*cough* No *cough*

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mortonjag 2008-05-27 14:17:16
QUOTE(tontastic @ May 27 2008, 02:00 PM) [snapback]452668[/snapback]
I rarely have problems with speed, but i do get occasional reports for some folk saying its always slow. My biggest problem is with NTL which randomly loses connection to the entire web for a minute or two every other night. I'm going to try a few tweaks for a couple of weeks to see if its a particular feature that is causing the problem.

I've had no problems with the site for weeks on end, but for the last few days the server's been very slow and unpredictable. There's no cable at this end if that's any help-just a very slow BT exchange line, but the speed's normally acceptable.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 14:23:39
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 27 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]452614[/snapback]
no, he's NOT a fud.
Fuds are useful.



That's absolutely true-thanks for your support.

I didn't know you had a use for old Fuddy Duddies-whatever floats your boat though-enjoy!

Don't let them get too cold mind-old folks become hypothermic quicker than those of the little pink botties.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 14:27:11
QUOTE(Deego @ May 27 2008, 02:21 PM) [snapback]452676[/snapback]
It's always the physio.

Those pubic massage boards are a menace.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 14:29:01
QUOTE(se65an @ May 27 2008, 02:09 PM) [snapback]452673[/snapback]
Sure is one mixed up p***y then tongue.gif

I've often wondered if it isn't a real cat at all.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 14:47:31
QUOTE(se65an @ May 27 2008, 02:39 PM) [snapback]452682[/snapback]
I never knew the word p***y was a blocked word on here.



Yon b*****d from Sc***horpe in the peac*** blue leotard is one poofy p***y!

Wait-maybe he's not a p***y-maybe he's a real live ****.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 16:57:18
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 27 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]452721[/snapback]
I see some people want an 'outside' sponsor to display their logo on our strips.

We have had a variety of offers over the past few seasons but the powers that be have decided that we should have their own ridiculous sponsorship emblazoned on the tops.

I for one will not be walking about with that horrible ‘millions’ sticker on my top, Buchanans Toffees is bad enough, but that just takes the piss.

Amateurism at its best.

Indeed.

QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ May 27 2008, 04:19 PM) [snapback]452732[/snapback]
A sponsor is a sponsor FFS! They all look awful if you ask me, but if the club has turned down substantial investement just so that the Rae family can have their company's name on the shirts then I would be very disappointed.

You're getting a bit mixed up surely-an extra £5000 p.a. would do me.

QUOTE(Malt @ May 27 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]452740[/snapback]
I wouldn't mind if he put his Millions/Half Punder/Buchanans on the back of the shirt but he is taking the piss now having the Morton top as a promotional tool for his sweets.

Time we looked for the best possible deal for Morton FC and not Dougie Rae.


Correct
QUOTE(cmdc @ May 27 2008, 04:38 PM) [snapback]452745[/snapback]
The thing for me is, I can't imagine there being many bigger local businesses out there looking to sponsor the club than Buchanan's. If they use that to push a product, well so what...did Arsenal not have Dreamcast or something for a bit? If more people buy the product, Buchanan's is in a better position, and Morton will benefit from that. The First Division these days just isn't a hot-bed for potential sponsorship...the league itself struggled to find a sponsor! (And when it did, it was one which pushed a product!)

Would never be the same without the resistant Shooglyphiles-would it? Do you SINCERELY believe that keech? wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-27 17:02:15
QUOTE(leyTON @ May 27 2008, 03:03 PM) [snapback]452688[/snapback]
ill tell her you said that MJ
she wil chib you!!!! tongue.gif

Good I need a chibbing from French tart!
mortonjag 2008-05-27 17:06:55
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 27 2008, 03:55 PM) [snapback]452719[/snapback]
Good grief I do beleive that's Hillend Primary School in the background..... my old school.

Mortonjag's Mummy was Dux of said school.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 17:08:25
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 27 2008, 03:59 PM) [snapback]452723[/snapback]
Aye, that's absolutely hilarious, life must be a neverending barrel of laughs chez MJ.

I love the inbuilt emphasis.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 17:18:02
QUOTE(Lovedaddy @ May 27 2008, 04:40 PM) [snapback]452749[/snapback]
Its sickening that if your a scumbag/Junkie the system goes out its way to help you. Where as the people who work and pay taxes pay for the up keep of these low lifes its a joke.

Being the scum of the earth is a choice not a disease why should they be helped with my tax money?.

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You'll have to be more specific and accurate if you want any support. I agree that what's happening is reprehensible.

I do NOT agree that drug addiction is 'not a disease', and I certainly do not agree that people with inherited addictive personalities are the 'scum of the earth'.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 17:29:29
QUOTE(Ton @ May 27 2008, 04:23 PM) [snapback]452733[/snapback]
All i can say is that at Youth meeting Jim Mc Coll was astounded that the u17's had not recieved kit as he had just handed over £2000 after xmass and that he would need to look into it ? not down to coaches not informing anyone as I know this was not the case as they had been informed by no less than 3 coaches and parents.

Ton-what exactly are you saying?

To whom did Jim McColl 'hand over' £2000, and on what understanding was it 'handed over'?

A Morton Director claims to be 'astounded'. That sounds like he was not party to the ultimate destination of the money!

If he had fully expected the under 17's to be supplied with kits, what was the result of his investigation?
mortonjag 2008-05-27 17:32:41
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 27 2008, 05:20 PM) [snapback]452766[/snapback]
If that is the case about the sponsorship I would not be shocked .

I made a suggestion about trying to get individual sponsorship at youth level but the answer I got was the difficulty in attracting sponsors .

Now that seems at odds with what you have said .

Who to believe in this type of situation ? rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-05-27 17:38:42
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 27 2008, 05:28 PM) [snapback]452769[/snapback]
I don't go in for all that inherited addiction stuff, if you don't want to try/start it then you don't, in my opinion there is no excuse, everyone knows the dangers and no more so than those growing up in this area.

That's an opinion to which you are entitled.

The huge weight of evidence supports the concept of inherited addictive personality.

I don't go in for all that inherited footballing skill stuff. If you want to be Ronaldo and don't try hard enough-don't make bloody excuses to midTONs! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-27 17:41:22
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ May 27 2008, 05:32 PM) [snapback]452773[/snapback]
It was Dougie Rae in the boardroom with Cappie the cat.

I was told Cappie had nothing to do with it.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 17:46:12
QUOTE(Jackie @ May 27 2008, 05:36 PM) [snapback]452774[/snapback]
Right. Seriously, have we even said we're going back in for this guy or is it just another fans fantasy?

'The club' would like to go back for him. Mr Rae valued him at £100,000 oot the Golden Casket a year ago, and Celtic have invested a full year since then, so I reckon they'll be looking for-say £150,000 - £200,000.

Peanuts to the Shooglemesister! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-27 17:49:57
QUOTE(BMC @ May 27 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]452637[/snapback]
If you can't get a buyer, I got a decent price for an old one in victor morris/the music shop they own a couple of doors down on argyle street.

Thanks-I'm not that desperate to sell, but it's lying doing nothing and that's a shame. For those interested I'm getting its fotie took tomorrow!
mortonjag 2008-05-27 17:52:45
QUOTE(scott_lithgows @ May 27 2008, 05:40 PM) [snapback]452778[/snapback]
If you go to Morrisons in Greenock and use the cash machine on the left,it always issues Bank of England notes.

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Well Uncle William is English, but 'proud to serve Scotland'.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 18:23:45
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 27 2008, 06:06 PM) [snapback]452787[/snapback]
I would agree that alcohol abuse causes more violent crime than drug abuse but drug abuse cause more dishonesty crime than alcohol abuse with more and more of it becoming violent, if alcohol is to remain legal then people need to be educated more and our drinking culture needs to be addressed, if they banned drink tomorrow I wouldn't give a flying feck I can take it or leave it.
It's a cop out a bit like when 'beasts' use the excuse I became a child abuser because I was abused myself, aye f***ing right, they are the ones who should know better than most. Excuse Excuse.

Both my mother and Father smoked and so did their parents, Myself, my sister and my brother don't and have never smoked, so where does that leave the inherited theory now.



It might be described as a 'cop out' when an 'alky' or 'junkie' tries to escape responsibility for the results of his addiction.

That does NOT mean that he chose to become addicted-those-like yourself-who have been able to enjoy alcohol responsibly, and stop without difficulty, are regarded by many experts in the addiction field as 'the fortunate ones'.


The same could be said of those who are able to use other addictive drugs in a similarly responsible way.


As my little Belgian friend points out correctly, people unfortunately don't know they'll get hooked before they start smoking, drinking, taking drugs, or putting two bob on a cuddy.

It's a lottery Jim-think yourself lucky.

Many a man has genuinely DESPERATELY wanted to stop smoking/drinking/gambling/ drug abuse, only to find he is powerless, and in many cases that his life has become unmanageable because of his 'habit'.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 19:16:13
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 27 2008, 06:32 PM) [snapback]452799[/snapback]
Having had the unfortunate experience of living among these human gutter species I would advocate placing them all on a sandbank in the middle of the Clyde and then await the tide coming in. I lived in 2 good council run areas that were both ran into the ground by these scumbags, who care not a jot for anyone bar themselves (and even that is debatable)

And before anyone cries that is a bit harsh, go and live among them for a wee while and then come back with an honest opinion.

Life is very cheap in a raving junkies eyes.

On midTONs point, I like a pint but I would love this country to go down the route of Norway and make alchohol a luxury, not as we have in our society drink so cheap it costs less than water.

The results of addiction are often horrendous, and like yourself, I feel very little sympathy when law abiding folk suffer at the hands of junkies, drunk drivers, etc.

Where I've taken issue is with the popular notion that the 'gutter species' you abhor CHOOSE to end up with what you quite correctly describe as no self respect.

I have been fortunate-sadly not often enough-to see some such 'scumbags' finally address their problems and re-establish themselves as valuable and valued members of society.

I have a specialist interest in the field of addiction, and voluntarily counsel youngsters with addictive illness.

It's too easy to tar them all with the same brush-addictive illness is indiscriminate, affecting rich, and poor alike, and cutting right across the social spectrum.


I'll never forget an old 'down and out' being brought into Glasgow Royal when I was an impressionable young student. I couldn't understand why they were wasting their time on folk like that.

It turned out that he was well known in the unit-a severe alcoholic, and a Professor at the University. They always managed to get him dried out, re-nourished, and discharged full of good intentions, and inevitably he'd end up back where he'd started a few months later.

Mind you I'm talking about forty years ago when there were no re-hab units and most chronic 'alkies' ended up in Ravenscraig type asylums, if they didn't die first. In those days addiction was simply seen as 'lack of moral fibre'.

It's sad that we seem to have hardly moved forward in almost two generations when it comes to health education.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 19:28:03
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 27 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]452812[/snapback]
i don't think you flout guidance - you either accept or reject it



flout is a rather loaded word, odd to find such a word here tongue.gif '.

i think the defibrillator issue is a classic red herring - why isn't here a compulsory bp / bmi / vo2 / blood alcohol (?) test etc. at the entry to the turnstiles - that would save more lives surely?


'flout'
–verb (used with object) to correctly describe Rae's reported behaviour---
to treat with disdain, scorn, or contempt; scoff at; mock: -the way you often deserve to be treated!


You clearly have less medical knowledge than common sense, and you're not very richly endowed in the latter department.

Anyway, Trumpet-away and pester the children-you're wearisome and played out.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 19:39:34
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 27 2008, 07:15 PM) [snapback]452813[/snapback]
did you say you had trouble with the neighbours? unsure.gif

No
mortonjag 2008-05-27 19:42:49
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 27 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]452823[/snapback]
i say, has someone hacked mj's account again?? wub.gif

No
mortonjag 2008-05-27 19:45:16
QUOTE(MasterTon @ May 27 2008, 06:20 PM) [snapback]452795[/snapback]
Sick topic

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mortonjag 2008-05-27 19:47:06
QUOTE(port-ton @ May 27 2008, 06:56 PM) [snapback]452807[/snapback]
only two years? its feels like a lifetime ago for me. sad.gif

That's because you're so young-when you get to my age the years just fly past!
mortonjag 2008-05-27 19:52:03
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 27 2008, 06:23 PM) [snapback]452797[/snapback]

I don't.

I prefer to choose the charities I assist.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 19:55:19
QUOTE(MUZDEE @ May 27 2008, 07:43 PM) [snapback]452828[/snapback]
I can guarantee you Mcmenamin isn't on even half of what has been quoted on this thread. We are being very careful with the funds now as we dont want to even contemplate going into admin again. We have had cash injections from local businesses which may be funding a few of these signings. We don't have an overdraft with the bank so thankfully cant get into trouble that way.

We used to be in that position too-well from one local business.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 20:19:32
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 27 2008, 08:04 PM) [snapback]452839[/snapback]
I know I seem to be having a go at Jim McColl in his role incharge of youth development but this sort of revelation puts the guy in a terrible position .
If he hands over money in good faith and then has to face questions about why the absence of kit .
If the Trust representative on the board is unaware where such donations are being spent then obviously this thread is valid .

I don't know the background to this. I only know Jim McColl to see. He looks a very quiet and inoffensive chap-the sort you wouldn't imagine would say 'boo' to a goose, and he always smiles to the others in the directors box on Saturday afternoons, but I've never seen him talking to them.

I repeatedly hear him described as 'The Trust's representative on the Board' and I see him listed as a Director, the others being Crawford Rae, and Alistair Donald.

Is the Trust entitled to change the Representative if it feels Mr McColl is being left out in the cold, and has been handing money over without knowledge of how it is thereafter disbursed?

It seems to me that poor Mr McColl may feel caught between the devil and the dark blue sea.

As I said, I don't know much about this aspect of Greenock Morton.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 20:22:49
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 27 2008, 07:46 PM) [snapback]452831[/snapback]
are you not being a bit negative right now?

Would you like to buy a guitar?
mortonjag 2008-05-27 20:26:56
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 27 2008, 07:55 PM) [snapback]452835[/snapback]
genuine laugh.gif at the posts in this thread smile.gif

i have a weakness for nearly wasted batteries - you never know when they might come in handy biggrin.gif

not to mention attics - my mum's house (old scalextric, subbuteo, 60's vintage morton programmes with rusty staples), former home (there's a vox ac30 in there somewhere unsure.gif ) etc.

picked up any good cardboard today?
mortonjag 2008-05-27 20:30:06 The Club are pleased to confirm that Kevin Finlayson has, this afternoon, agreed a deal which sees him stay at Cappielow for the next two years.

Finlayson, who scored against Dunfermline and Partick in the final two matches of last season, said "I really wanted to stay at Cappielow, so I'm delighted that an agreement has been reached. "
mortonjag 2008-05-27 20:33:58
QUOTE(MUZDEE @ May 27 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]452854[/snapback]
I do find it quite astounding that any local business is putting any money in cause of the way they lost quite a lot when we went into admin. Although it's good to see money being put into the club again.

It sounds like there may be some local confidence in the Dundee Chairman and Board.

Mr Rae has been utterly dynamic in that respect, and I was gutted to see Rangers win on Saturday.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 20:38:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 27 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]452853[/snapback]
You sound as if you have some experience in these matters. Was it 'chocks away' with fly boy McB ? laugh.gif
I'm not sure about the accuracy either - I suppose it would be easy to imagine that the planes were flying right over the rooftops when you were hiding under the table in a room and kitchen. Bloody frightening it must have been.

I distinctly recall my Mum describing a situation where a plane had strafed civilians and they 'could actually make out the pilots face'. It sounds a wee bit fanciful to me but I'll ask her when she comes back from her week's holiday.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 20:42:08
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 27 2008, 08:29 PM) [snapback]452855[/snapback]
Even the most amiable of people would feel let down by being put in such a position .

Was Mr McColl selected because of his amiability?
mortonjag 2008-05-27 20:44:03
QUOTE(Deego @ May 27 2008, 08:37 PM) [snapback]452858[/snapback]
Aye, cool. Thanks for reminding me.

WELL-have we, or have we not signed McManus-all I have is a Tilly report, and they've once been wrong before.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 20:51:12
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 27 2008, 08:17 PM) [snapback]452843[/snapback]
Are you Serious ??

You must be sharing the same gene pool as Piehutt ....

Would you rather be watching 1st Division football or 2nd Division . Surely its all about ambition to play at the highest level with supposedly a more professional set up .

I think it is a no brainer .

chrissiboi it would be good if you could spell out exactly what this is all about-it's obvious that the previous poster is one of those saddos-fortunately they seem to be gradually disappearing-who tries to defend the indefensible-you know-like not having a defibrillator at the ground despite strong recommendations from those who DO know what they're talking about.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 20:56:35
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 27 2008, 08:46 PM) [snapback]452866[/snapback]
no - i've got 4 already - but i'd urge you to keep yours unless it's really surplus to requirements

i do agree that a good acoustic is the fallback though

edit to add:
sorry to break the commercial thread

I should think so.

My wee grandson has six of those guitars btw
mortonjag 2008-05-27 20:58:44
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 27 2008, 08:53 PM) [snapback]452871[/snapback]
the trolley's full of it smile.gif

Cold East wind tonight! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-27 21:54:01 I didn't realise it had been closed-it WAS supposed to be a wee bit tongue in cheek, but was also making what I thought was a valid point. We DON'T yet have official confirmation of the McManus signing, and I DID praise the club for getting the Finlayson information on smartly.

Will we be getting an explanation?
mortonjag 2008-05-27 21:54:43
QUOTE(port-ton @ May 27 2008, 09:33 PM) [snapback]452894[/snapback]
complaints forum for this pish!

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mortonjag 2008-05-27 22:01:31
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 27 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]452875[/snapback]
why don't you take over from mr mccoll?

Would Mr Rae let me?

QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 27 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]452876[/snapback]
sorry, didn't read to the end of the thread before posting tongue.gif

Do you ever? dry.gif

QUOTE(Bryan @ May 27 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]452893[/snapback]
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Is it really so funny Bryan-do you believe Mr McColl's doing a good job?

As I've said he seems a thoroughly decent chap, but if he's handing over thousands of pounds from the Trust and then is dismayed when it seems not to have reached its intended goal, maybe the poor soul needs a well earned rest.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 22:20:03
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 27 2008, 10:09 PM) [snapback]452912[/snapback]
i dont think the chairman would let you in the board room, Mr McColl is doing a fine job but is not the director in charge of youth dev he just helps on the admin side.

The Chairman doesn't know me-why do you think he'd not let me into the Boardroom. Does the trust not have the final say in whom is appoints as 'its representative'? That was exactly what I meant when I asked if Mr McColl was appointed for his amiability.

According to Chrissiboi and others Mr McColl stated he is in charge of the Youth development.

Is this another case of the right hand not knowing what the left hand's doing? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-27 22:27:31
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 27 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]452878[/snapback]
still on the lanliq, not quite brasso

Ha the good old lanny-I thought it was a thing of the past!
mortonjag 2008-05-27 22:30:25
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 27 2008, 09:36 PM) [snapback]452898[/snapback]
well if you've stopped spanking it ...

MidTONs was NEVER the Monkey you buffon.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 22:35:05
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 27 2008, 09:50 PM) [snapback]452901[/snapback]
out of interest, what was the snp's poll rating in the thirties? (honest question: i don't know and neither do you)
not very well put, but otherwise hard to refute

so you guys (who bit) think that germany invaded poland because of absence of censure from the snp? huh.gif

What are you blabbering about Trumpet-time for the cardboard.

BTW if it's not too intrusive a question, where do you and your box reside? I've noticed you don't go to Morton matches.

I have this sneaking feeling you won't be for saying-that would fill me with great suspicion about your bona fides.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 22:42:37
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ May 27 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]452930[/snapback]
I see your folks lived on Bawhirley Road. Whereabouts? My wife's family all lived in one of the detached villas at the bottom of Bawhirley road - no 9 I think. They are Service family who were fruiterers in Greenock for many years.

My father in law is Donald Service (now 84) and he was in the RAF during the war and spent most of his time in Aden. He left to go there on a convoy from Greenock and always says that the most terrifying thing he lived through was a few days of U Boat attacks on the convoy, listening to explosions of depth charges plus a ship being hit etc whilst effectively locked in several decks below the waterline. He says that they were packed in like sardines and there was no way of getting out quickly if they needed to.

These years have turned out to be the most important in his life. He was a hostilities only man and so was away for 4 1/2 years with only the odd letter finding its way back and forward from home. As he has gotten older it has become his main topic of conversation when he's not slagging politicians. You can start a conversation on any subject you care to mention and he can turn it to the war! He has also, I might add, very strong views on how the politicians and not the soldiers c*** things up. If you meet him don't mention Iraq or Afghanistan unless you've got a few days free!!

They lived in a semi detached villa on the right hand side at the top of the hill (just before the wee crescent that curves round to Kilmacolm Road)-name of Craigmont which I believe it's still called.

My Mum's maiden name was Macgregor, and her Grandfather (Currie) had the house originally.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 22:45:04 Mine's still slower than usual but much better than this time yesterday.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 22:53:17
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ May 27 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]452924[/snapback]
I asked a perfectly reasonable question. Your response says far more about you than it does about me. You do have serious problems old man!! Hopefully you'll come to realise that before they cart you off.
This at least goes some way to answering my original post.

This still doesn't answer my original question of what makes the pro youth so much better. Beating one team no matter how good doesn't explain to me why its better to play Pro Youth than in any other league. It would be interesting to hear the Reggie Scorer's of this world opinion. Would they say Pro Youth is better?

I just asked the question as nobody has explained why it so much better to play Pro Youth. dry.gif

It's funny how your type always appears to lie happily when challenged while accusing ME of having problems.

I was taking your 'innocent' question in conjunction with all your previous 'innocent' questions. I concede, however, that you may indeed be a simple and disingenuous soul. If you have been misjudged I extend a wholehearted apology.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 23:07:58
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ May 27 2008, 11:02 PM) [snapback]452946[/snapback]
And what exactly is "my type"? I did ask a perfectly valid question which up till now nobody has actually answered.

But hey, lets not let the truth get in the way of a good yarn.

It's that sort of ridiculous point scoring comment which makes me doubt your innocence-but if you are indeed wholesome-I've already apologised.

Your type-probably Dalmatian-reknowed for loud barking and premature deafness.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 07:35:12 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Others were less convinced!


Dr Richard Simpson, Shadow Health Minister, said under this new regime almost 21,000 patients had been "forced back to their GPs to start again at the end of the queue".

He called for research to find out more about their circumstances and what had happened to them. "Who are these patients? Were they consulted before being struck off the waiting list? We need far more detail," he said.

Liberal Democrat public health spokesman Jamie Stone also called for more information. He said: "We need to have evidence that these patients are being treated and not dropping out of the system."

The Scottish Consumer Council expressed concern about the degree to which patients understand the new practice. Liz Macdonald, policy manager for health and social care with the council, said: "It is not easy to understand the difference between the way waiting times were counted before and the way they are counted now.

"I know the government has made some efforts to produce some information for patients. They produced a leaflet, which we commented on, and they have recently revised it, but I am not sure myself that that information is hugely useful." She added that she hoped clearer guidance would be issued.


Bawheid's sidekick continues to pleasure herself at the expense of the truth.

I was visiting the Beatson Cancer unit with a relative yesterday-I'm told that The Royal Bank of Scotland has offered significant financial help to the institution, on the understanding that the bank's employees are given some benefits as a 'payback'.

I guess I could have started a controversial thread on that alone. Suffice to say that the majority of the caring folk in the Beatson welcome ANY funding which will help to tackle the scourge of cancer.

They, of course, know only too well, the REAL truth about waiting list times, when waiting list times really matter. sad.gif

The treatment of cancer is FAR too serious for political soccer.

18 weeks for a tattoo removal Nickerless-now I have to say that's highly impressive, and just consider-- you could have your necessary plastic surgery completed in less than six months.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 07:51:03
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 28 2008, 12:00 AM) [snapback]452967[/snapback]
http://health.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=269659

Polyester boxers
Poly/cotton boxers
Cotton briefs
Cotton/spandex briefs
Sports briefs which are made of a special synthetic fabric designed to keep you cool during exercise.

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In terms of health, fertility, and general comfort, if not street cred., loosely fitting cotton underpants are undoubtedly best.

Ladies are best to go knickerless, as the vulva appreciates a good airing.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 08:03:29
QUOTE(.:BrIDo:. @ May 28 2008, 02:02 AM) [snapback]452996[/snapback]
I think what Mortonjag is trying to say is that there is such a thing as addictive personalities and they can be inherited, leaving some people more prone to addiction than others.

That doesn't mean that you are going to become a smoker, an alcoholic or a drug addict if you have an alcoholic in the family. But if you do have a few alcoholics in the family, then chances are you're (key phrase here) more likely to develop some form of addiction (key phrase here) to something.

Off the top of my head, I can think of someone I know who is a drug addict, and I know for a fact that his Dad is an alcoholic. I can also think of someone who doesn't drink because he has two alcoholic uncles. And I can think of 3 people I know who are alcoholics and have an alcoholic Dad.

But you have to balance that against other factors. Did seeing they're relatives drink make them think it was socially acceptable to do so? Or did they develop the habit through other reasons.. stress or whatever. Or did a combination of these conditions aswell as a socalled 'inherited personality' cause these addictions?

How many people are addicted to other things which are less of a problem, something which you may not even realise you have an addiction for? (The Internet/Videogames, for example).

But aye, I agree with a zero tolerance policy.


What Mortonjag is saying is that-by definition-you don't become an addict unless you already have an addictive personality. Not all people with addictive personalities become addicts.

Every time this topic comes up, I'm astounded by the ignorance which still abounds. No wonder our national alcohol problem has doubled in just a few years.

I'm all for freedom of opinion and open debate, but not for deliberate distortion of fact.

People don't become addicts unless their personalities render them vulnerable to addiction.


FACT.




QUOTE(NewTon @ May 28 2008, 04:17 AM) [snapback]452998[/snapback]
Sydney is full of addictive personalities ... perhaps 5% of the population

With evolution, they will grow a third arm so that they can:


hold a beer

hold a cigarette

and play a slot/poker machine with their third hand

it has become a major social issue because governments are also addicted ... to poker machine taxes

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http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/states...8949899992.html

I'm sure politicians would find a third arm extremely useful.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 08:09:03
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 27 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]452802[/snapback]
Take pound notes and 'sell' them to pubs. Quite a few pubs in England have my old notes displayed, normally for the price of a pint, which in my eyes is a decent transaction.

You have to subtly open your wallet to pay for a drink and allow the landlord to spot your £1 note, invariably they will ask in astonishment 'is that a pound note' to which you reply, yes, here you can have it, and you are normally rewarded with the afore mentioned pint. wink.gif

laugh.gif Good old Scottish capitalism

QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 27 2008, 06:45 PM) [snapback]452803[/snapback]
Don't try and use them on the London Underground !

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mortonjag 2008-05-28 08:14:19
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ May 28 2008, 12:19 AM) [snapback]452974[/snapback]
In terms of training theres definately not much better at mortons pro youth compared to good boys club teams in regards of time spent ie 2 hours on tuesdays and thursdays nights etc. Obviously pro youth should have better backing therefore they train on better parks have better training equipment, balls etc. Morton probably attract better players than the boys clubs due to the obvious stigma of getting to play for a professional team but in terms of standard at morton compared to the other pro youth teams and their setups mortons is probably one of the lowest.

So the answer to Dalmatian's innocent question is that a properly run pro-youth set up is the way to go?
mortonjag 2008-05-28 08:18:10 Morton's biggest failing for six years has been lack of leadership on the park.

Several posters have been pointing that out to those who are supposed to know better.

When we sign that man the difference will be glaringly obvious to all except Professor Piehole.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 08:21:14 I know for a fact that the Morton Lottery numbers are drawn by a member of the public each Monday and this is always someone who is not connected to the Club.



....though 'the club' is said to be working on it. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 08:28:28
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 27 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]452881[/snapback]
i'll shut up then - apart from to suggest that you give it to your wee grandson (maybe minus the amp wink.gif )

Hey-that's an idea---------on second thoughts, maybe it's not. Happiness and Pop stardom rarely co-exist.

Anyhow-just to update, I'm getting my wee Canon out today, and hope to have a picture displayed later.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 08:52:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 28 2008, 08:32 AM) [snapback]453012[/snapback]
including your favourite lady politician ?

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Maggie managed very well with two Newt! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 08:54:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 28 2008, 08:30 AM) [snapback]453011[/snapback]
the vulva appreciates a good airing.
would that be an euphemism ?

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QUOTE(Alibi @ May 28 2008, 08:37 AM) [snapback]453015[/snapback]
You make it sound like a coal fire. Goes better when you supply it with air, red hot and appeciates a good poking.

Gentlemen, your vulgarity does not become you. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 09:08:14
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 28 2008, 08:48 AM) [snapback]453022[/snapback]
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Inspection of the vomit is a more specialised art-best left to your doctor.

Never ignore vomit which is very dark brown-almost black and looks like it contains coffee grounds.

'Green Chartreuse' vomit usually indicates a high bile content-often experienced after a 'binge' on alcohol, as is the above.

Vomiting copious amounts of fresh blood usually indicates impending death, though small quantities should never be ignored.

Vomiting, preceded by constipation-especially if it contains jobby like material, usually indicates a bowel obstruction.

Vomiting, when accompanied by abdominal pain, should never be ignored, especially if you've just been kicked in the nuts.

Healthy babies don't vomit-they regurgitate-babies who can hit the opposite wall with their pewk, require surgery, or have a childish sense of humour.

I'm waiting to be told this is a piss thread.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 09:15:50
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 28 2008, 08:49 AM) [snapback]453026[/snapback]
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 26 2008, 09:44 PM)
So you know that the ESSEN PEE didnae want a war wie the NSDAP?

out of interest, what was the snp's poll rating in the thirties? (honest question: i don't know and neither do you)
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 26 2008, 09:48 PM)
Hindsight is a wonderful thing......At the end of the day, Germany invading Poland had nothing to do with Scotland, so I could understand where they were coming from on that one.

not very well put, but otherwise hard to refute

so you guys (who bit) think that germany invaded poland because of absence of censure from the snp?

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Seriously mate - time to grow a brain. No one is suggesting that the SNP caused the invasion of Poland. You're missing the point completely or else you're looking for another bite. Well here goes.

Colkitto's point that Germany invading Poland had nothing to do with Scotland is, in order ;

1) Completely wrong
2) Seriously ill-educated and
3) Hugely disrespectful to the millions of men (countless thousands of Scots included) who gave their lifes fighting an intolerable evil - to provide the very freedom of speech and liberties all of us now enjoy - which, incidentally, would not be the norm, nor was the norm under the Nazi regime. So failure to speak out and take action against the evil of Fascism was an outrageously cowardly thing to do, whether it was the SNP of the day or the Irish Dail as a whole (before anyone gets started !)

Germany invading Poland had EVERYTHING to do with Scotland - too many people choose to forget just how close we came to being invaded and ruled by Fascist powers. Indeed, most war historians will happily argue that had Hitler chose not to invade Russia or invaded Russia at a later date, then the fall of Britain would have been no more than a timing issue. Fighting a war on three fronts stretched his resources beyond the pale. But with Stalin not arsed about Hitler, in the absence of a Russian invasion, the fall of Britain was a very real prospect.

All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

I genuinely fear a fourth Reich.

TonInDublin


His imperial majesty Bawheid the first!


Neville Chamberlain would have been proud of Spurtle and Trumpet.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 09:19:44
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 28 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]453035[/snapback]
Put doon of the year. laugh.gif laugh.gif

He was actually agreeing with Mr McArthur.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 09:37:31
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 28 2008, 08:35 AM) [snapback]453013[/snapback]
MJ, your obsession with Nicola Sturgeon is emerging again. The person quoted as moaning about this is the SHADOW health minister, i.e. a Labour politician, and you would hardly expect him to offer his congratulations. I'm sure Ms Sturgeon will present the situation in the light most favourable to her (I know, you're going to say that would be total darkness....) and all these things must be taken with a pinch of salt, but you really are getting tedious with your constant references to Bawheid, maybe mildly amusing the first time but a joke loses its impact when repeated ad nauseam.

Even if things aren't totally to your liking, even you have to admit that the general state of Scotland has improved since the LabLib lot were sent packing. It's not perfect but a start has been made on undoing the decades of bad government by the numpty party.

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I wanted to call Bawheid 'Halloween Lantern Heid' which is pictorially more accurate, but trips poorly off the tongue.

QUOTE(dazed @ May 28 2008, 08:48 AM) [snapback]453023[/snapback]
Doesnt Bendy need plastic surgery more urgently than Nicola??


Miracles take longer than 18 weeks.

QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 28 2008, 08:48 AM) [snapback]453024[/snapback]
Aye. shame on you Mentaljag.
Tedious references to personalities in a political party? Like 'Bendy Wendy' and the 'Numpty Party' ? biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(dazed @ May 28 2008, 08:48 AM) [snapback]453025[/snapback]
Well said!


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QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 28 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]453037[/snapback]
Sauce for the goose, pot, kettle and all that, surely? When there is little or no difference between the parties on domestic issues perhaps it's inevitable that the debate descends to 'slagging' personalities.



It's not really goose and gander stuff Mr Edwards-Mortonjag despises politicians in general.

On a serious note, I WAS highlighting another use of spin, and outright lying about the Health Service.

So long as that stupid young woman continues to abuse her remit for self and party glorification, I shall pursue her with all guns blazing. Yesterday I met an old chap (Andrew-who's 79) who was in for his chemotherapy. He was really witty and had a very stoical attitude to his prostatic carcinoma, especially as his wife died only last November.

He spent all his life in the drinks industry-latterly in a senior management position.

I asked him what he thinks of the Health Service. He couldn't praise the Beatson highly enough-saying-'You don't appreciate things like this until you need them-I just wish they would spend more money in the right areas'.

Quite simple when your well heeled existence doesn't depend on vote catching.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 09:44:05
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 28 2008, 09:34 AM) [snapback]453047[/snapback]
In all fairness, like most of these people will have seen a Scottish bank note before!

First time I saw a northern Ireland one I thought it was fake. And some places in Greenock are really iffy about taking these too, my dad once had to go to the bank and change one as the place he was buying his lunch point-blank refused to take it.

It's all swings and roundabouts.

It was nice of your dad to let you take the picture.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 09:59:16
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 28 2008, 09:39 AM) [snapback]453049[/snapback]
Jag I’m not going to get into any sort of medical debate with you, that would just be silly on my part.

Their medical condition is not my concern and yes a very small percentage of these abusers can be saved and live normal lives, but the vast majority will continue to terrorise people in their own neighbourhoods/homes.

No one chooses to end up a junkie/alky, social issues cause most of that to happen, but am I to feel sympathy for those in society who feel the world owes them something? I am sick to death of my hard earned tax giving junkies free bus travel, furnishings etc, which in my eyes is the truly liberal way out of things and rewarding these criminals, and no matter the harrowing story behind it they are just that, criminals.

How would you feel if the council in their wisdom moved the town’s local alkies next door to you who then become your 4am alarm clock as they woke up and started battling with one another until the off license opened?
How would you feel if they move a known housebreaker and raving junkie below you who subsequently lay dead in the house for 2 months?
How would you feel if a well known drug dealer who has a history of chibbing those who get in his way moved in 2 doors away?
How would you feel if the council gave a house to a 17 year old habitual criminal, who spent his time in secure units, being given a house 2 down from you with over 2k spent on it resulting in basically establishing a teenage gang hut?
How would you feel if you wife was scared to come home from work in the evening because the common close was being used as a drinking/toilet/shagging den by the very worst of our youth?
How would you feel if your area had become a no go zone, where venturing outside at night became a life threatening lottery, a place where the Police very rarely ventured outside the confines of their secure wee pandas.
How would you feel when you finally had enough and decided to hit back only for the Police to appear at your door and threaten you with arrest, despite the fact they regularly witnessed crimes but chose to turn a blind eye.
How would you feel if after all that you are forced (with many of your neighbours) to move out of the home you had built up in an area you once loved because the human gutter scum had taken over with the help of the local council and social work.
I'm afraid any sympathy I may have had towards the unfortunate has long since waned and quite frankly I could not give a toss about any of them anymore.

The crux of this thread is that of an area going down the pan and on that subject I am highly qualified and yes the area being mentioned here is going the identical way as what I have descibed above as anytime you are in the area it is the faces of the towns most recognised scumbags who are hanging around.



The area I live in has (only in my opinion mind) gone right downhill in the last few years because of Council policy on housing immigrants. In their own way, those folk (through no fault of their own in many cases) are perceived as 'scumbags' in this previously well integrated multicultural part of the city.

I agree and sympathise wholeheartedly with your sentiments regarding the unwanted effects of Council policy in this lily livered social services infested nation of ours.

If I contract typhoid through no fault of my own, and proceed to deliberately infect others, that does NOT make me responsible for MY illness. It DOES make me liable to justified punishment.

Not all junkies are 'scumbags', and the number of 'scumbags' in this country grossly exceeds its 'abuser' population.

Time those 'scumbags' in Holyrood took the bull by the horns on addiction-starting with the biggest social scourge by far-alcohol.




mortonjag 2008-05-28 10:05:14
QUOTE(rex manning @ May 28 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]453046[/snapback]
Finlayson.

Is he buying the club?
mortonjag 2008-05-28 10:17:03
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ May 28 2008, 09:28 AM) [snapback]453045[/snapback]
Who says we don't have accountability for these funds? So, just because nobody from the club has come onto an unofficial website and answered this questions means that the money has somehow not been used for its intended purpose? What a load of bulls*** by a crowd of mischief makers.

As for Jim McColl being out of his depth dealing with astute businessmen, where did that idea come from. Mr McColl spent his working life in IBM dealing with very astute business men.
And how do you know that Jim McColl hasn't asked pertinent questions at board meetings, were you there?

You lot are amazing...

I take it those are more innocent little questions Measles! You come over as a very sad creature if I may say so, and your ilk-those who are now DELIBERATELY flying in the face of common knowledge- are the ones who threaten progress-not the Jag, his Monkey, and a snowballing number of posters who now call it as it is.

As Barbarossa has asked of you-if you KNOW something which will help to unravel the mystery of the disappearing funds-speak up. If not, you can always revert to wee innocent soul status. dry.gif

QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 28 2008, 09:47 AM) [snapback]453053[/snapback]
Where you there? do you have the answers? If they have details of where this cash went to, make it public. I am only commenting on the fact that funds seem to have been handed over and a member of Mortons board stated where these funds went and it now seems this may or may not have been the case.
It is all a little cloudy, clear the mist I say.
The fans of Morton are well within their rights to ask these questions.
Jim McColl would not rock the boat. Fact.

PRECISELY.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 10:52:53
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 28 2008, 10:15 AM) [snapback]453059[/snapback]
BTW, Our resident spy was appointed by DDF to report back what is being discussed on this site. This forum is more official than unofficial as we find out more of what is going on than the official site tells us.

Aplogies for having the cheek to ask questions. blink.gif

I'm not sure who this 'resident spy' is, but there are certainly more asses on the board than Donkey Dave the tail bearer, with his reassuring excerpts from 'Everything you ever wanted to know about accountancy, but were afraid to admit you didn't learn at University'.

The brown nosed twins Meases and Macca must be thanked for keeping the debate hot.

We DO want the answer! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 10:56:41
QUOTE(rex manning @ May 28 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]453065[/snapback]
Cant say i'd be too disappointed to see him and Mr Rae swapping roles. Give me Finlayson on the mike and Rae on the wing any day.

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The mind boggles!
mortonjag 2008-05-28 10:59:00 Davie's a good all rounder-maybe not quite first division standard yet, but his injuries have undoubtedly hampered progress.

He needs a fresh start-for his own good,and the best of luck to him.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 11:01:46
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ May 28 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]453078[/snapback]
Probably because he's contracted to St Johnstone until 2.6.08 (according to the Telegraph) and won't sign for us until then.

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Ha-so he's signed one of those pre-contracts that can be torn up at will.



Seems reports of McManus coming to Cappielow are premature! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 11:16:54
QUOTE(gmfc_ged @ May 28 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]453091[/snapback]
Think Jenkins will have a good year after his pre-season training.

I have high hopes of our midfield being one of the most powerful in the league.

I just wish we had more options up front-Kev's a good squad player but not a winger, and he and McAlister could well sit on the bench in some matches if we had genuine wing players-but there you go.

The other option of course would be efficient overlapping full backs-again a neglected area.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 12:10:31
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 28 2008, 11:41 AM) [snapback]453102[/snapback]
That'll be one of those pre-contract arrangements that are commonplace throughout football these days.......
.......so why scoff? If the Tele report is accurate, it's a normal piece of transfer business - why the inevitable negativity and cynicism? JEEZ it does get wearing after a while!

You really are a tiring child-if you knew as much as you clearly imagine you do, you'd know that Mortonjag was heavily ABUSED for claiming that pre-contracts are binding (ref Chris Millar), and that that post was totally tongue in cheek.

Now run off and pester somebody with your own limited intellect or brush Mr Rae's shoes or whatever.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 13:07:37
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ May 28 2008, 11:24 AM) [snapback]453096[/snapback]
What common knowledge, three people on an unofficial website making unsubstantiated claims, and this is common knowledge of misappropriation of donated money. Bloody hell you've been reading too many conspiracy novels in your spare time. Stick to the facts it's a much better story that this fiction.
Ah I forgot, if you don't have the facts at your disposal then just make them up to suit your own damaging agenda.

What mystery of disappearing funds? Once again you make something up to suit your agenda . Its only a mystery because you don't know the answer.

I do have the answers as a matter of fact, but lets not let the truth get in the way of a good conspiracy yarn. tongue.gif unsure.gif


I merely alluded to 'the mystery of the disappearing funds'-NOT to misappropriation. The money appears NOT to have been spent on its intended target-that comes from Mr McColl's reported behaviour and comments. He went off to 'investigate' and apparently hasn't come back with an answer. It's pathetic to see you lot close ranks at even the merest hint of criticism-AND IT STINKS TOO.




QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 28 2008, 11:30 AM) [snapback]453099[/snapback]
Another great post - but re the highlighted bit, you've done it now - he doesn't like anyone having information and withholding it apart from HIM....... laugh.gif

Measles either knows f*ck all or 'is on Rae's payroll'. dry.gif

QUOTE(pgmsc @ May 28 2008, 11:56 AM) [snapback]453106[/snapback]
Answer these questions then why did the U17's go a full season without training kit and tracksuits Why did the u13's have to wear hand me downs from this seasons u14's who were the only team supplied with new kit which they did not receive untill half way through the season.

He's just about to do a body swerve.

QUOTE(Spot Ton @ May 28 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]453111[/snapback]
We are not talking about kit , we are talking about supposed misappropriation of money.

I'm in agreement with you, I think that's ridiculous but that's down to how the club is being run not about the money being siphoned off for something else.


See what I meant? wink.gif

QUOTE(Bryan @ May 28 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]453113[/snapback]
currently if your identity was revealed he wouldnt let you in tongue.gif if you were the trusts representative that would be different. the trust does have the final say, and currently Mr McColl is the best man for the task currently and is not there because of him amiability and does ask the hard questions when needed.....

Your opinion or Shoogly's? Certainly not that of midTONs, and certainly not that of many other trust members.

QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 28 2008, 12:22 PM) [snapback]453116[/snapback]
Precisely what I worry about.
I do not for one moment think someone is stealing this dough, but it seems the accounting at Cappielow falls some way short of what is expected at a professional club.

It is a worrying trend and smacks of the amatuerism which seems prevailant at our club.


Correct Barbarossa-the siege mentality always kicks in every time there's the remotest hint of criticism-who do those people think they are, and more importantly, WHERE DID THE MONEY GO?


QUOTE(cornbeef @ May 28 2008, 12:36 PM) [snapback]453121[/snapback]
You would be naive in the extreme if you thought your ongoing 'campaign' ? had gone unnoticed. Barbarossa often refers to a board spy (reporting everything back to HQ laugh.gif ) I can't understand this - even a casual observer would see that you have major issues with ddfr - so no need for a 'spy' as such. There will undoubtedly be those on the this board who have occasional contact with Dougy/Crawford and you might well get a mention.
Given your contempt for Dougy and co - why the feck would he be happy to have you in the boardroom ?

Having said all that - I don't doubt your right to ask questions about the running of the club. BUT - if you had a genuine interest, in a constructive way, you could have become involved with the trust or written to express your concerns. Maybe you have done, I don't know. It seems you enjoy the role of being a subversive.

It seems strange that you see fit to describe me as a 'subversive' while arguing that my identity's well known Cloth Ears!

I'm not sure what you refer to by 'genuine interest'-my interest in the well being of Morton is paramount, and I DO believe Mr Rae is now holding us back-is there something immoral in that?

Having an interest in a 'Trust' whose sole voice appears to be a total figurehead is an entirely different matter.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 13:08:36
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ May 28 2008, 12:54 PM) [snapback]453129[/snapback]
If the accounting falls short of a professional club how come I get a copy of the club accounts every year which are signed off by the accountant, and not under duress as was the case in the Scott years, and the accounts are approved at the club AGM by the shareholders.

Are you saying that the independent accountant at Henderson's is an amateur and doesn't know his job?

Where did the money go Measles-answer the question?
mortonjag 2008-05-28 13:21:05
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 28 2008, 12:40 PM) [snapback]453122[/snapback]
'scuse me for not having read your entire canon - but you spout so much nonsense it would be hard to keep up, even if I was interested.

But give me some peace re these comments about "brushing Mr rae's shoes or "licking Mr Rae's erse" - insulting, and nonsensical; the personal abuse you fire at people serves only to weaken your occasional valid arguments. And not being as anti-Rae as you does not mean I'm in thrall to the man.

Try and be a bit more level-headed in future - get yourself a chip for the other shoulder too.

No-I won't excuse you son-either get your facts right or shut up, and forget your whimsical-'he makes good points but spoils them'. It's always the same with you jumped up brats-you think you can hurl all manner of personal abuse at the Jag and then complain when your little fingers get burned. You just claimed that your brown nosed twin's stalwart support of the club in the face of legitimate questioning was 'the best post of the thread'. As I suggested, run off and brush Mr Rae's shoes, or whatever.

QUOTE(ianton @ May 28 2008, 12:50 PM) [snapback]453128[/snapback]
unfortunatley he has all 19,000 of them.put him on ignore just like a lot of us on here.

Lots AND lots of folk who don't like the truth press their little huff buttons- five or six at the last count I'm led to believe. laugh.gif

QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 28 2008, 01:03 PM) [snapback]453131[/snapback]
thanx, might end up doing that. Seems a shame to see him waste what seems a reasonable enough intellect on so much piss and wind and bile against "the club", as he calls it.
When they circumcised MortonJag they threw away the wrong bit.

....but I'm not in thrall to Mr Rae'.... wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 13:25:31
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 28 2008, 01:20 PM) [snapback]453138[/snapback]
Typical - if you don't agree with MJ he rubbishes you either for being totally wrong or for being in Dougie's back pocket. Paranoia and conspiracy theories, as usual.

Get some new tactics, ffs! These ones are played out and extremely boring.

It has nothing to do with 'agreeing or disagreeing with Mortonjag'-or Chrissiboi, or MidTONs, or Barbarossa-it's to do with a legitimate question remaining unanswered while the weasels scrabble and squeak in panic that they KNOW all is well! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 13:28:07
QUOTE(Cawston @ May 28 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]453140[/snapback]
He said you enjoyed the role, not that you were good at it biggrin.gif
Very true.

I'm of the opinion that Morton are comfortable with Jim McColl being the Trust rep and as such there's next to no scope for change.

Last thing that would be welcomed is someone to go in and actually represent the fans***

Only my opinion though.
*** Could be that JM is doing a great job at this, unfortunately as a loan note holder I'll never find out.



Had to look twice at the obvious deja vu-what is it with Shoogly and those 'JM's?
mortonjag 2008-05-28 13:35:10
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 28 2008, 01:25 PM) [snapback]453142[/snapback]
The basic truth here is this - IT'S NONE OF OUR BUSINESS where the money went. It's the business of those who donated the money, and of Morton FC, and no-one else. It's not even our business to enquire as to whether the donors know where the money went. It's their business - and no-one else's. The old one is simply stirring it for the sake of stirring it.

I think you have now said everything I needed to hear. When you grow up and look back at this I hope you have the baws to be ashamed of yourself.

Please don't associate ME with arrogant little fools like yourself-it's 'NONE OF OUR BUSINESS'-aye f*ckin' right-it's most CERTAINLY the business of every TRUE Morton fan that their club is run honourably and accountably.

This is Britain in the 21st century sonny, and it's long past time 'the club' woke up to that fact.

Rather than my 'stirring' there are too many on here pathetically failing in an attempt to muzzle free speech. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 13:37:50
QUOTE(cornbeef @ May 28 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]453145[/snapback]
Don't think subversives require anonimity Osama.

If you were active in the trust you could help to make change 'from within' If you didn't feel that McColl was cutting it and was simply a nodding dog - I'm sure that you could make the necessary moves to have him replaced.

You believe in Democracy , don't you ? and don't even think of mentioning Dougy Mugabe tongue.gif

I have NEVER said I'm not in the trust. I have never said my brother is not in the trust. I have never publicised details of donations made to the club by our family.

As always it's an attempt to discredit Mortonjag and deflect from the question.

Where did the money go?
mortonjag 2008-05-28 13:40:58
QUOTE(pgmsc @ May 28 2008, 01:30 PM) [snapback]453146[/snapback]
The fans donated the money played in the fans game paid for the privilege The fans attended the sportsmens Dinner the fans attented the race night then it is our business in particular those who are Trust members

...and it would also be of great public interest if the question remains unanswered and one of those daft tabloids gets hold of it! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 13:50:29
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 28 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]453118[/snapback]
Here, that's quite a good one! I do see a slight resemblance to a turnip lantern....

You're right about spending the money in the right places, but I don't really see why you have it in for Nicola Sturgeon - leaving aside the usual spin and trumpeting the slightest achievement, common across all politicians, is it not the case that she is overseeing a gradual improvement in the NHS in Scotland? Although still a lot of unnecessary managers to be got rid of.

I can only call it as I see it, and so far all I see is a fatally flawed belief that she's going to 'meet demand' without involving the private sector, that allied to greater expenditure.


As with Mileson, McInally, Rae, and others, I DON'T have a personal vendetta against folk I don't know personally-nor against any that I do for that matter, although the Monkey really gets on my tits with some of his stuff about our Chairman.

I agree that ALL politicians are losers with the NHS-I'd just welcome some honesty, but honesty doesn't get votes.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 13:54:02
QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 28 2008, 12:45 PM) [snapback]453124[/snapback]
Problem? No one else can help? Maybe you should hire The B Team

*music plays*

If it was a problem I'd deal with it myself! It's just a fact of life.


QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 28 2008, 12:49 PM) [snapback]453126[/snapback]
Bloody hell. It seems that eejits like them will always be around.

Airdrieonians are the salt of the earth Mr Edwards.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 14:11:30
QUOTE(cornbeef @ May 28 2008, 01:44 PM) [snapback]453153[/snapback]
I don't want to muzzle you mad dog© , but you could have something to offer in a more mainstream way.

as somebody said before , you tend to tar us all with the same brush - crawlers/spies/weak minded. Doing yerself an injustice with that stuff.

Don't be daft Cloth Ears-I'd never dream of tarring you with the same brush as some of the pond life which has come and inevitably gone in the never ending quest to defend the indefensible!

Of course I could be useful to the club-for a start I appear to be infinitely more intelligent and better qualified than the current incumbent-I've supported Morton all my life, and my heart's in the right place-the latter has been verified by an independent clinician.

I would happily perform medical examinations, and give advice in Hospitality-proceeds to the club, and the Monkey and Fing do a wonderful wee dancing duet routine-they could dress in Morton strips with Millions logos and make a DVD for sale to the members of the 'Cappie the Cat Club'.

I'd willingly edit 'Shoogly Peg' for Mr Rae, if he'd like that.

There must be dozens of other ways I could get involved in the 'mainstream'.

If Mr Rae contacts me and asks for help, you'll be the first to know-I promise.

Oh-and I'd still like to know what happened to that money.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 14:28:17
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ May 28 2008, 12:22 PM) [snapback]453115[/snapback]
Innocent question? Do you have to demean everything anybody says on this website...you really have a self esteem problem or were you the hospital bully?

I asked a perfectly valid question, one that you can't answer because you are NOT QUALIFIED.... so let somebody with greater knowledge than you say something sensible for a change and stop being an ignoramus.

It wasn't meant to demean you-you made a great effort to point out that your question was valid and not loaded, and I gave you the benefit of the doubt-result-you're back on with more personal abuse.

Furthermore I have never claimed to understand this topic and made that perfectly clear. My last comment was merely based on information from someone what does appear to know.

While I'm on, are you going to spill the beans about how yon money was spent-let Mr McColl know at least-I believe he deserves that.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 14:38:42
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ May 28 2008, 01:46 PM) [snapback]453155[/snapback]
Is there any direct investment in to GMFC as a result of having GC's products emblazoned on both sides of all of our tops since the current regime took over? If so, is it anywhere near as much as an outside firm would contribute? Have the club (ahem) bothered to investigate other sources of sponsorship locally? With firms like T-Mobile, IBM, National Semi-Conductor and indeed RBoS having decent sized operations based in Greenock, have the club made enquiries to these groups with regards to a possible shirt sponsorship deal, even if just for the "second" sponsor on the back?
I really don't believe for a minute that Greenock Morton Football Club is getting the best deal possible from the current set-up. Or indeed, are we getting the best on any front, but that's a sotry for another day...

Another extremely valid question EM. It HAS of course been asked before and 'Millions' defended to the hilt as a 'Household Name'.

One of the advantages of living outside Inverclyde is that you rub shoulders with folk who know nothing about Morton or Golden Casket. I have yet to find one non 'Ton' person who doesn't find the 'Millions' logo 'cheap and nasty', but that's not the point-it's about getting the best income for the club.

For what it's worth, and others have suggested this too, there are many organisations in Inverclyde whom I believe could generate income for the Ton. It may be of course that Mr Rae is writing off substantial debts to Golden Casket in the moneys Greenock Morton receives in sponsorship, and that's entirely fair, but only if we can't do better elsewhere.

mortonjag 2008-05-28 14:42:40
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 28 2008, 02:34 PM) [snapback]453173[/snapback]
SiB, if you want to make logical postings using rational and reasoned arguments go elsewhere mate, this is the wrong place for that kind of stuff. tongue.gif

Final confirmation of what I've always believed-all Hercules' posts are tongue in cheek.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 14:48:45
QUOTE(cornbeef @ May 28 2008, 02:16 PM) [snapback]453169[/snapback]
I thought MJ was having a dig at the dead sea scrolls as he calls the O.S. It is indeed more of an 'archive' than a news facility. No surprise that GMFC hasn't updated with McManus. I mean there's a quote from the manager in the Tele so it's surely done and dusted ? also interesting how the site has treated the different signings - big Partypants got a mention in the 'chairmans' notes but not the other signings.( any significance ?)
It'll be a real shocker if we haven't secured McManus though.

It's the apparently random aspect that's puzzling-quite often in the past we've had forewarnings of impending 'fantastic' signings-they updated the Finlayson information commendably, yet despite all the debate and subsequent Tilly splurge there's just ZILCH.

I would imagine that if the responsibility was delegated solely to one person the matter would be sorted.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 15:08:42
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 28 2008, 03:06 PM) [snapback]453182[/snapback]
Truly the definition of farting into thunder.

TonInDublin

Hmm-a close contender though I'd still cite attendance at a Morton rally.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 15:11:01
QUOTE(Sammario @ May 28 2008, 02:53 PM) [snapback]453179[/snapback]
Morton did discuss with T-Mobile about increasing their their level of sponsorship but Morton wanted too much money.

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QUOTE(EanieMeany @ May 28 2008, 03:05 PM) [snapback]453181[/snapback]
Probably wanted all future T-Mobile handsets to come with a changeable "Millions" cover rolleyes.gif

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 15:30:24
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 28 2008, 03:18 PM) [snapback]453188[/snapback]
If money is handed over with the expressed intention of supplying new kits then obviously
the failure to do so is a betrayal of trust and the good intentions of those who donated the money .
So to me the club should be informing those concerned that the money was used for a different purpose at the very least .
I am probably being niave but I feel if the club have recieved money for a specific use and they feel there is no need to use the money in this way then surely they are duty bound to inform those or give them the oppurtunity to have their money back .

I seem to remember something about folk wanting their money back before-I think Annan FC was involved in some way.

I may be mistaken, but I believe 'the club' was a wee bit reluctant to return money on that occasion-not Annan FC-'the club'.

I apologise in advance if I've got this all mixed up.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 15:35:02
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 28 2008, 03:30 PM) [snapback]453192[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif

Now .. now ... you must behave .
You are only a medical doctor , doctoring figures requires a different type of skill entirely . wink.gif

Fing is good with the numbers!
mortonjag 2008-05-28 15:37:49
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 28 2008, 03:09 PM) [snapback]453185[/snapback]
Aye, quite right, best not to upset the bead-rattlers. smile.gif

fashion conscious snakes.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 16:05:00 Here's what others said---and I had to delete seven as the multiple quote limit was reached.


QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 21 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]450105[/snapback]
Any need for that. It's a very valid point and one I'd like answered.



QUOTE(midTONs @ May 21 2008, 06:07 PM) [snapback]450133[/snapback]
You know it's a question I tried to get answered before but didn't get anywhere with, I will not go over old ground but it would be nice for the club to contact the person/organisation or club who made any donation for the youth set up or any other fund within the club for that matter and tell them exactly how their donation was made use of.





QUOTE(EanieMeany @ May 21 2008, 07:09 PM) [snapback]450178[/snapback]
Dougie could turn GC into the most profitable organisation in the world for all I care, doesn't mean he has the slightest clue about running a football club.

Mortonjag makes a fair point - if the fans are coughing up the cash for something that should be the clubs responsibility, we deserve to be told where that money is going.

And why would anyone want to go to one of Dougie's wee soirees anyway? We all know he's never going to give you a straight answer unless it's making him look good, or he gets a chance to wheeze "bring a friend" for a while.






QUOTE(Sanityclause @ May 21 2008, 08:56 PM) [snapback]450221[/snapback]
Hmmmm - your response seems slightly aggressive on this one, why would that be?

I don't read anything more from MortonJags post other than a valid question
- one maybe that cannot be answered through this thread or forum.

I also agree with other posters on this one - I wasn't at the PG town hall for question night - does that make me any less a fan? or indeed any less inquisitive about my club?








QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 24 2008, 11:57 AM) [snapback]451595[/snapback]
Can't disagree with that, Irons and co seem a more astute team. But we have been punching below our weight for well over a decade, reality for me would be competing at the top of the 1st division EVERY season, with the distinct possibility of joining the 'big' boys.

Why is it many fans seem to think we are not of that level, we are a potentially bigger club (and should be at that level) than the likes of ICT, Falkirk and definitely Hamilton. Indeed in my opinion we should be at the level of the likes of Motherwell.

We have to realise our potential or forever be looking in from the outside, regarded as a very well supported diddy club. There is only one club in our division who should regularly be bigger than us and that is Dundee.
I still challenge the owners of Morton to come out publicly and state what their long term plans are for Morton, have we found what they regard as our level, or are they willing to take this club forward?

Morton are run in a very amateur fashion compared to clubs with obvious ambition, it is almost looked upon as a toy or badge for our esteemed chairman.
It has a siege mentality at times and we as the fans are not allowed to ask pertinent questions regarding the future because we don't own it, but without us there would be no Morto
n.

Maybe, just maybe, someday someone who understands where Morton should be will take this club forward.
I can only hope.





QUOTE(Ton @ May 27 2008, 04:23 PM) [snapback]452733[/snapback]
All i can say is that at Youth meeting Jim Mc Coll was astounded that the u17's had not recieved kit as he had just handed over £2000 after xmass and that he would need to look into it ? not down to coaches not informing anyone as I know this was not the case as they had been informed by no less than 3 coaches and parents.




QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 28 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]453033[/snapback]
This thread has now surpassed the tit-for-tat mud slinging, it is now very concerning that we don't seem to have simple accountability for these funds mentioned.

Morton fans have the right to demand that the club produce a record of where and how this money was spent. The issue of trust is now at the forefront.

As for Jim McColl, he is a thouroughly decent man who is Morton to the core but is well out of his depth in dealing with astute businessmen, i'm afraid the fans representative on the board has to ask pertinent and sometimes uncomfortable questions which I am not convinced Jim ever would.



QUOTE(pgmsc @ May 28 2008, 11:56 AM) [snapback]453106[/snapback]
Answer these questions then why did the U17's go a full season without training kit and tracksuits Why did the u13's have to wear hand me downs from this seasons u14's who were the only team supplied with new kit which they did not receive untill half way through the season.



QUOTE(Cawston @ May 28 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]453140[/snapback]
He said you enjoyed the role, not that you were good at it biggrin.gif
Very true.

I'm of the opinion that Morton are comfortable with Jim McColl being the Trust rep and as such there's next to no scope for change.

Last thing that would be welcomed is someone to go in and actually represent the fans***

Only my opinion though.
*** Could be that JM is doing a great job at this, unfortunately as a loan note holder I'll never find out.



QUOTE(pgmsc @ May 28 2008, 01:30 PM) [snapback]453146[/snapback]
The fans donated the money played in the fans game paid for the privilege The fans attended the sportsmens Dinner the fans attented the race night then it is our business in particular those who are Trust members



There is surely more than a mandate here from many of our respected posters. A valid question has been asked.

It's perfectly possible that there is a simple and completely innocent answer, but the longer that answer takes to come from those who CLAIM to know, and the longer those who DO KNOW protest that all is well, the more it appears that it is quite the opposite.


When the life blood of Greenock Morton-its true fans-has so obviously being treated with aloofness and disdain for so long, their loyalty is nothing short of amazing. Two years back Mr Rae enjoyed almost total support, and criticism of any kind was met with an often vicious backlash.

Times have changed, and reality has now dawned for the majority. Mr Rae's heart is undoubtedly 'in the right place' and I will always be grateful that he saved our club from extinction, but if he intends to stick with the 'status quo' he really has to look very carefully at public relations and accountability.

Patience is wearing thin and goodwill already appears largely to have evaporated. This unanswered question is the tip of an iceberg of what I regard as bizarre goings on at Cappielow.

It's perfectly plain that the Trust is simply taken 'for granted' as an extra source of income, and majority opinion suggests that Mr McColl is 'a bulldog with no teeth'.

Writing to 'the club' is largely a waste of time-just as at the fans' rally, unwanted questions are deflected or simply ignored.

The unofficial forum seems to be the only effective mouthpiece for the fans-we're told that Mr Rae employs his 'resident spy' specifically charged with reporting back, but it's never been more truly said that 'A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest'.

I'm afraid it looks like it's just going to get worse before it gets better.

mortonjag 2008-05-28 16:48:34
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 28 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]453205[/snapback]
If you:-

buy a lottery ticket
buy a raffle ticket
sponsor someone in a marathon
put money in ANY charity collection tin

you do so of your own free will. You have a right to expect your money will be used in roughly the manner that the organisation has led you to believe, and they have a responsibility to ensure that that is done - but you DON'T have any right to expect that that organisation answers the questions of every single query that comes their way about it. You wouldn't ask such questions of Cancer Research or the RNLI or ChildLine unless you had serious grounds for suspecting that something was amiss, in which case you'd go to their auditors or to the police. You WOULDN'T start asking unanswerable questions on a football fans' forum - we don't have the answers to give; nor do we have the authority to get them.

The only people with any right to expect an answer from Morton about where that money went are the organisers of whatever raffle/dance/other function raised the cash. Whether they've asked the questions or not I don't know, and I don't much care - it's their business and no-one else's.

I'm bored crapless by this now - won't be back on this thread, it'll go on and on with the daft old wombat just rumbling things up every now again with a strategically-placed "Where'd The Money Go......." ....... the game ain't worth the candle as this thread won't ever get the answer.

Adios!! biggrin.gif

unsure.gif


Did you think it was a game? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 17:04:45
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 28 2008, 03:45 PM) [snapback]453197[/snapback]
Wow, that's way too much.

Apart from Tom McB and Sick Mick I've been told some of them are actually OK. tongue.gif

laugh.gif

It's just word association, and both of those gentlemen are fine upstanding examples of......... sad.gif huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 17:06:53
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ May 27 2008, 08:01 PM) [snapback]452838[/snapback]
http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/euro2008/

At least this keeps an interest in the European games - the vain hope that you guess the correct score and who knows, maybe even win £100

My guesses are now in under Sanityclause - should we start a board competition?

Mortonjag supply a valid e-mail address to the 'Tilly'!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 17:10:40
QUOTE(.:BrIDo:. @ May 28 2008, 12:40 AM) [snapback]452984[/snapback]
Are you planning to keep the originals?

The reason I ask is because, despite all the positives of the digital age (piracy!!), I've burned alot of photos to disc over the past 5,6,7 years, alot of which don't work anymore. Apparently it's to do with cheap discs, so if you're wanting something to keep use high quality Sony discs (which you'll need to back up every 10 years anyway). Apparently UV light degrades the integrity of the disc aswell.

Anyway, about you're original question, I can't think of a program that would do all that, but perhaps an alternative would be to download some torrent software and search for the albums that way? Legally you're not breaking any laws if you've already bought the album and it would save you a tonne of time.

Sorry to digress. I want to know the simplest software I can free download for ripping AND burning DVDs.

I've used Nero, DVD shrink, and Roxio, but I'm afraid I'm pretty useless when it comes to this kind of thing-something completely idiot proof please!
mortonjag 2008-05-28 17:23:31
QUOTE(Sammario @ May 28 2008, 05:14 PM) [snapback]453221[/snapback]
I think Nero is the best out ther. I have NTI CD/DVD Maker as well but much prefer Nero.

Cheers-I'll give it another go.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 17:27:55
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ May 28 2008, 03:48 PM) [snapback]453199[/snapback]
According to the Herald he was at Dundee yesterday but nothing was signed as he has other options and wants to take a few days to reach a decision. Could this mean we offered more money than Dundee?

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mortonjag 2008-05-28 17:49:46
QUOTE(big B @ May 28 2008, 03:40 PM) [snapback]453195[/snapback]
The draw for the 1st round of the Challenge Cup will be made tomorrow Thoughts.

It'll make things a bit more real, having an actual fixture to look forward to.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 17:51:54
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ May 28 2008, 05:33 PM) [snapback]453228[/snapback]
Doesn't need to be completely valid!

what-something like fing@nailgun.co.uk
mortonjag 2008-05-28 17:53:30
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 28 2008, 05:43 PM) [snapback]453230[/snapback]
We had Brown and Darling in Scotland today meeting the heads of the oil companies asking them to up production.
Westminster is going to try and drain the oil fields dry quicker than ever before, whilst Scotland sits back and allows their country to go through economic uncertainty, poor living standards, crap schools and hospitals........( I could go on)
We are now reaching an incredible $135 a barrrel. You can see this hitting $200 in the not too distant future. And all the money flows to London, an utter disgrace !

Whilst the other countries around the world go to war to protect their oil, we sit back and let them take it, with not a word said ! mad.gif

Get it sorted Bawheid.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 18:29:04
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 28 2008, 05:48 PM) [snapback]453234[/snapback]
This is despite money being donated in good faith that things are run as a professional set up .
Not only do we have to ensure that the new management team improve the training and general running of the set up .

The board will then have to ensure we eventually meet the SFA criteria ( for anyone who has citicised Gretna for not having facilities up to standard it would be double standards if we were not to criticise our own club for failing to do so after the allowed timescale by the SFA )

Question , did we get a grant from the SFA for our development initiative ? If so what was that money spent on ?

Are you saying we did, or just asking-it shouldn't be hard to check.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 18:31:41
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 28 2008, 05:31 PM) [snapback]453227[/snapback]
If I remember rightly Nero had two modes. One being called 'simple' or 'easy' mode or something which was extremely straight forward.



QUOTE(Jackie @ May 28 2008, 05:46 PM) [snapback]453232[/snapback]
MJ you could just use Windows Media Player, although I prefer Nero too.

Cheers-I'm just incredibly useless with those programmes-it's strange when I'm so bloody incredible at almost everything else! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 18:33:32
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 28 2008, 06:16 PM) [snapback]453242[/snapback]
No offence but these petition's get nowhere, still signed it though as i like a wee petition now and again rolleyes.gif

Hmm... mortonjag will keep that in mind!
mortonjag 2008-05-28 18:52:57
QUOTE(Deego @ May 28 2008, 06:30 PM) [snapback]453248[/snapback]
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We are in the 1st Division? unsure.gif

We're in a different first division! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 18:55:24
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 28 2008, 06:35 PM) [snapback]453252[/snapback]
Still waiting on you to start one MJ, although ive got a fair guess as to what it might be rolleyes.gif




Free Fudgy Wudgys for three legged stools? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 19:10:10
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 28 2008, 07:04 PM) [snapback]453263[/snapback]
I know Davie Irons spoke briefly about there being grants available to clubs who adhere to the criteria . I believe we did recieve the basic grant from the SFA from things that were said when Joe McLaughlin was there .

If we took the money while knowing we did not have the necessary level of training facilities etc then surely this is another example of failure in taking a long term outlook to the whole business of youth development .

I assume certain criteria must be fulfilled before the SFA disburses money. I'm sure that the SFA would not knowingly dish money out if those criteria had not been fulfilled.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 19:14:21
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 28 2008, 06:57 PM) [snapback]453259[/snapback]
Your obsession with jobbies is getting beyend a joke.




HA-I'm talking about milking stools Hercules-milking coos can be hard work especially if the milkmaid milk person has a large bum-that is why I say.......

Free Fudgy Wudgys for three legged stools.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 19:19:16
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 28 2008, 06:57 PM) [snapback]453260[/snapback]
Easy, Scotland could be a very rich country indeed. The price of oil is rising very sharply, that means more revenue to the country that is producing the oil.
Westminster is raking in £billions of Scottish oil because we are in this cursed union. These £billions worth of oil revenue could be going straight into the Scottish economy.

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Mibbes aye Spurtle-anyway I've asked you three times why you're not in the Bawheid club, and three times you've not answered. My partner suggests it's because of your job-are you a big POLIS, cos if so I do apologise for calling you names. He's usually right about things like that BTW!

Also if you are I'd love a pm with a picture of your truncheon.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 19:25:13
QUOTE(Deego @ May 28 2008, 07:16 PM) [snapback]453269[/snapback]
I didn't know what your question was, fanny toes. No I didn't.

Fanny toes? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 19:28:21
QUOTE(shagster @ May 28 2008, 07:25 PM) [snapback]453275[/snapback]
More pointless off topic crap.

Would you like me to sign the petition humpy-I will if you promise to sign mine when it comes out-you won't have to really believe it'll do any good.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 19:38:31
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 28 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]453279[/snapback]
You never said you were a Cliff fan laugh.gif

YOU never said you were a big POLIS either! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 19:43:20
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 28 2008, 07:39 PM) [snapback]453284[/snapback]
Mon the trees, f*** the HGV's.

Using a thick condom I hope

HGV +ve's no fun
mortonjag 2008-05-28 19:49:53
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 28 2008, 07:46 PM) [snapback]453291[/snapback]
With reference to the first post and the suggestion other countries go to war for "their" oil, are we supposed to go to war with England?

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mortonjag 2008-05-28 19:51:46
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 28 2008, 07:48 PM) [snapback]453293[/snapback]
I take it you don't like to put it up the exhaust then ? tongue.gif

Oh I'd like to think of myself as a bit AC/DC sparks-an alternating c*nt if you will.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 19:54:17
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 28 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]453296[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDThat's what is accurately described as a *potential ethnic slur removed*!
mortonjag 2008-05-28 19:55:57
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 28 2008, 07:53 PM) [snapback]453297[/snapback]
If you read all of my posts, I said all we have to do is put an X in the right box. But that would have spoiled you're wee unfunny joke ohmy.gif

Very well officer!
mortonjag 2008-05-28 19:58:45
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 28 2008, 07:46 PM) [snapback]453292[/snapback]
If I bought a ticket for the national lottery and was then excluded from knowing the 7 numbers that came out I would be positively livid.

If I bought a raffle ticket I'd damned certainly want to know who won.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 07:01:28
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 28 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]453341[/snapback]
biggrin.gif i aim to please

Bryan-thanks-that goes some way towards answering the question, though the 'invoices at Cappielow' and 'if I had known' allied to comments about NOT being able to do it while claiming there was still money in the bank seems to confirm allegations of amateurism at the very least. Giving folk like Gillian and Jim the benefit of the doubt merely confirms the on going 'divide and rule' policy of the Master.

Furthermore you claimed no time ago that 'Jim is doing an excellent job'.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 07:03:44
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 28 2008, 10:00 PM) [snapback]453374[/snapback]
That's not a good quality in a footballer, true, but it's a f***ing great quality in a woman.

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mortonjag 2008-05-29 07:17:07
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ May 28 2008, 11:55 PM) [snapback]453407[/snapback]
These really should be out pretty much right after the last game, especially when there is a feel good factor like this season's great escape!

Tonsilitis in shock criticism of Steptoe and Son-does he sense business? laugh.gif



On P&B it would appear that we and Thsitle are about the only clubs not having issued renewal notices apart from Airdrie who can't until they know the Gretna situation.


C'mon Thistle help us to win someting even if it's just the Bungle Handicap


QUOTE(JonaTon @ May 28 2008, 11:57 PM) [snapback]453408[/snapback]
Not the first time the club has failed to capitalise on a feel good factor.


Has he EVER?


QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ May 29 2008, 01:12 AM) [snapback]453419[/snapback]
I confidently predict they will be in the post within the week... wink.gif rolleyes.gif


Can you also confidently predict that they will be printed in Scotland in a waterproof bothy, that the e-mails of all applicants won't be publicised, that they will be worth the money this time after last years 'joke', and most importantly that Mortonjag's private information will not be leaked from the Club data this time around.

Can you also confidently predict a cost of living indexed pay rise for Tail Bearers next fiscal year-that's the sort of thing Bawheid admires.


QUOTE(port-ton @ May 29 2008, 01:44 AM) [snapback]453422[/snapback]
never had a season ticket but, does it really matter when you get them? they dont come into use until the start of the season anyway.


Their only use is in knowing you can turn up at 2.55 and still get your seat. Given the diminishing crowds that was never a problem last season. I certainly WON'T be renewing-that's one way of telling Mr Rae his organisation stinks.


QUOTE(TaunTon @ May 29 2008, 06:57 AM) [snapback]453425[/snapback]
Might not matter to you but it should to the club. Getting advanced income is great for any business as you can plan your finances better or even use the money for signings. Most clubs realise this and get their renewals out as soon after the season closes as possible.


Mr Rae is an astute and experienced businessman! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-29 07:22:42
QUOTE(MasterTon @ May 28 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]453363[/snapback]
I saw a mouse!
Where?
There on the stair!
Where on the stair?
Right there!
A little mouse with clogs on
Well I declare!
Going clip-clippety-clop on the stair
Oh yeah.
Ian


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QUOTE(port-ton @ May 29 2008, 12:14 AM) [snapback]453412[/snapback]
i met my mate the other day
when he came to my neck of the woods
all of a sudden he proclaimed he was gay
and we proceeded to touch each others manhoods

im not going to say i didnt enjoy it
but it just felt a little weird
its a funny feeling you know when against a wall
having a man go down on you with a beard

im happy to say that after just a day
we were happily in love
and even better news is what im about to say
my arse fits his hand like a glove.




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mortonjag 2008-05-29 07:26:04 MY ARSE FITS HIS HAND LIKE A GLOVE[center][/center]



Port ton.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 07:29:49
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ May 28 2008, 08:51 PM) [snapback]453337[/snapback]
Fingers are for women. A real man needs a fist.

Back to the point. If you're young or an idiot or both and think the earth revolves around you then you probably will have problems with Scottish money down south but then you probably regularly have other men eyeing up your bird or calling your pint a ****.

Can't put an old head on young shoulders!
mortonjag 2008-05-29 07:31:57 Again thanks to all. I think Mr Bam may have the real answer to the problem though.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 07:37:05
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 28 2008, 09:45 PM) [snapback]453370[/snapback]
sorry chaps, i didn't make myself clear:

my first point was that i imagined that the snp's support in the thirties was less than that of today, although i didn't have the figures (implication: the snp was an insignificant entity in european terms)

my second point was that i doubted whether the events of 1939 would have turned out any differently whatever the snp position was at the time. the opprobrium of the snp would not have halted the invasion of poland

also i see now why i found colkitto's post puzzling - i completely misinterpreted it unsure.gif (i thought he was saying that the snp's position wouldn't have affected the outcome), so i didn't mean to imply that i agreed it was nothing to do with scotland

apologies for the confusion, especially if you thought i was suggesting the snp were responsible for the invasion of poland ohmy.gif

Whit was his name Trumpet?
mortonjag 2008-05-29 07:40:30
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 28 2008, 08:23 PM) [snapback]453311[/snapback]
Never mind break ins in
the west end, a police van just pulled up right outside my house, 12 police have jumped out and are all standing at the traffic lights at the top of Patrick St?? unsure.gif


Was Constable Claymore there?
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 28 2008, 08:31 PM) [snapback]453317[/snapback]
No helicopter yet, will keep you posted. They are still all standing, my dad's arse is making buttons. I think he is going to take our imaginery dog out a walk. rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-05-29 07:42:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ May 28 2008, 11:58 PM) [snapback]453409[/snapback]
Reported for racism.

The only difference between Blu Tack and gently microwaved keech is the colour.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 08:50:41
QUOTE(Mr.Kennedy @ May 28 2008, 03:20 PM) [snapback]453189[/snapback]
I may be interested in the keyboard...how much you looking to sell that for?

Yamaha PSR 170

Cost about £110 new some five years ago and has been played about a dozen times. As I said, I'm not looking to rip off fellow posters, but I'm not going to let it go for complete buttons either!

Update on the 'foties' -they have been tooken but I can't work out how to put them on this thread-HELP please!
mortonjag 2008-05-29 09:06:34
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 29 2008, 08:34 AM) [snapback]453440[/snapback]
A few people here seem to be blaming Local Authories or Housing Associations for the 'run down' of public housing. They are wrong - the responsibility lies with national government.
Local Authorities and Registered Social Landlords (i.e Housing Associations) are legally obliged to prioritise housing provision for those deemed to be most in need. For example, if a family is evicted from one house for anti-social behaviour, they will go to the top of the waiting list for another if they present themselves as homeless. It should also be noted that Housing Associations have to borrow money to part finance housing development (construction of new housing or refurbishment of existing). The loans have to be repaid through rental income - the higher the loan, the higher the rent. High rents are only a consideration for the 'economically active' though, the 'economically inactive' will have their rents paid for them by housing benefit.
No surprises then that public housing has become the dumping ground for every social problem that blights society. National government continues to turn a blind eye to these problems I'm afraid. SNP legislation (ironically called 'Building on Firm Foundations') proposes to cut grants to Housing Associations even further, meaning that private loans will increase and rents will rise again accordingly.
Public housing needs to be radically overhauled both in terms of its allocation and finance. Allocation systems should be reviewed to ensure that good tenants are rewarded and bad tenants made to face up their responsibilities. Similarly, housing finance and benefit systems should be geared towards affordability for those who work for a living. Present systems just perpetuate poverty and social degeneration - radical changes are long overdue.



Like it or lump it, those unfortunate dregs of society-I'm CERTAIN they never wanted to end up like that -either have to be exterminated or housed somewhere. Maybe the best idea would be a new Botany Bay near Iraq or some other faraway place that doesn't matter-that would create lots of spaces here for good quality people from Romania and so on.

I'd imagine they could equally well all be incarcerated for life into a huge new prison the size of twenty five Bar L's, but that would cost munny.

Anyway it seems that as long as they are decanted into decent areas those will become indecent overnight. The only solution for the decent folk is to move out leaving wholly indecent ghettos.

I have huge sympathy with the plight of Barbarossa. Sadly there IS no short term solution, nor will there be an answer unless governments take the drugs issue by the scruff of the neck.


mortonjag 2008-05-29 09:31:54
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ May 29 2008, 09:24 AM) [snapback]453453[/snapback]
God, I thought for a minute you were going to say something positive. But as usual that dark cloud once more descended and you lapsed into the old routine. sad.gif

Thanks for that Measles-I shall bear you in mind on the day of judgement.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 09:41:48
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 29 2008, 09:28 AM) [snapback]453458[/snapback]
eh, I think your wrong there tbh, I don't think it's just down to other ('trust') board members but down to all trust members whether or not they are on the board or loan note holders.

It's down to apathy and impotence.

Good folk in the trust are ironically too 'trusting'-either that or they don't bother their arses trying to fix things that are not right.

I stand by my previous view that the 'Trust', the supporters clubs, and the fans in general have been a 'soft touch' for 'the club'-why bother being accountable if nobody's asking questions-even IF you're doing everything by the book.

In that respect, I take my hat off to the Old Shooglemeister-there can't be many septuagenarians who could have outdone Mrs T in her prime.

Now that pertinent questions ARE being asked of the regime, he must be working on his own version of the Argentinian War! wink.gif

mortonjag 2008-05-29 10:06:11
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 29 2008, 09:39 AM) [snapback]453461[/snapback]
I think the point here is there are jobs a plenty at the moment, so much so we have to import foreign workers to fill the voids.

I would reckon at a guess that at least 70% of those registered on incapacity benefit are in fact fit to work.
It is a system which is continually abused and those in most need of help are invariably the ones who get the least from the authorities.

It has always made me scratch my head in wonder that a registered alocoholic for instance receives approx £20 per week more than the guy looking for a job, why exactly does an alcoholic need more money than your average joe?
Does he eat more? does he have extra outgoings? there is no way he/she would spend that extra money on drink is there.

All this does, and also in the case of junkies, is encourage them to bleed the system dry. We are in fact feeding their habits.

We cannot return to the bad old days of workhouses, but this situation financially and economically cannot continue. The amount of fit young adults idle in this country is staggering, if they want to lounge on the brew or the sick make them earn it somehow.



Haud on a minute-what's a 'registered alcoholic'-don't spoil your good points with daft spin.


'Ahm in tae register officially as an alky'-

'I'm sorry Sir but you're not stinking of stale alcohol and cigarette smoke and those, I believe, are 'Gucci' trainers. May I see your medical certificate?

'Haw you-aye you c*nt-ther nae certificate-get us registered or yer motor's tanned'.

'Very well Sir'.................and will there be anything else Sir.

Aye, geezan emergency loan -thae trainers are six months old.

mortonjag 2008-05-29 10:07:01
QUOTE(tigerjock @ May 29 2008, 09:57 AM) [snapback]453466[/snapback]
Was brought up at the poor end of brisbane st......on my last visit it was noticable that the area was infested with work shy scrounging types who are the cash generators of the unscrupulous landlords......was a great area to grow up in but i wouldn't live there now with my youngsters.....like most of society it has changed for the worse......still not worse than inverkip road....eh barbie.....young TJ sends his regards from the cloud he is currently still occupying...........up the tigers

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mortonjag 2008-05-29 10:09:57
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ May 29 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]453465[/snapback]
Crikey, you are starting to sound like Ms Alexander. wink.gif I agree with you, by the way, on that point.

Sir Alastair is a fellow Morton supporter. That was QUITE uncalled for.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 10:13:44
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 29 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]453457[/snapback]
Healthy babies don't vomit-they regurgitate-babies who can hit the opposite wall with their pewk, require surgery, or have a childish sense of humour.

Yourself on the excellent 'jobby' thread. laugh.gif

smile.gif

The jobby thread seems a bit costive-I'll have a wee keek!
mortonjag 2008-05-29 10:25:09 Jobbies with little white wriggly threads on them indicate a rectum inhabited by wireworms. Those clever little creatures pop out at night to lay their eggs on the crimson aureole.

The resultant intense itching, scratching, and eating without washing the paws (to say nothing of sooking the fingers) ensures propagation of the species.

Who said worms were low life? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-29 11:04:06
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 29 2008, 10:19 AM) [snapback]453473[/snapback]
Apparently you should only have to wipe your bottom 3 times before you're completely clean. Well what happens if your on the 6th wipe? Is there something wrong or is it just a hangover?

What is your technique also, do you look to see how clean it is by looking down or do you bring the bog roll full of jobby right out of the pan?

That is quite inaccurate and a carry over from the days of austerity immediately after the 'last war'.

When we were kids we were only allowed two pieces of that horrible 'Medicated with san izal germicide' paper per dump. Guaranteed your underpants were caked in dried keech when they went in the weekly wash. We just accepted that as normal.

We loved Uncle Jimmy's up in Belville Street-he boasted the first coloured bumph in Inverclyde-Evening Times, Sporting Evening Times, and Sporting Evening Citizen, cut neatly into squares and hung on a piece of string in his unlit WC, where the 'bottom biters' lived.

You could use as much as you wanted, and if you were very good, and looked 'feart', he'd let you play with his torch too.

Now in my advancing years I can use as much of that luxuriant soft perfumed tissue as I want.

Whatever happened to the Bidet though-I had a Bidet in a couple of houses-they have hundreds of uses apart from hosing down ones perineum ('undercarriage', for the uneducated).

Anyway------I sit astride the pan-I'm doing it as I type just to get this right-opening my legs almost as far as I can, and leaning over slightly to the left while pushing upwards from my right foot, with TWO pieces folded into one in my right hand, I reach under my right cheek-forward until I almost touch my scrotum ('bawbag' for the uneducated) and slowly and firmly perform a backward wiping action with slight upward pressure. I then carefully reverse the arm movement and after very close scrutiny of the jobby streak, I discard the paper into the beckoning pan. That process is repeated as often as necessary to achieve complete cleanliness.

I have found that while actually performing the act of defaecation ('sh*tting', for the uneducated) I can predict with uncanny accuracy how much paper will be required. I confess to being quite obsessional about this.

I have to say that a thoroughly good crap is one of life's most rewarding and valued pleasures. I dread the thought of my rectum and anus ('arsehole' for the uneducated) ever packing in. sad.gif

mortonjag 2008-05-29 11:13:15
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 29 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]453477[/snapback]
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It's quite like farting, they all do it, except most men will let rip in ferocious fashion where-as woman squeeze the cheeks until the faces goes red.

Not many of them like speaking about it. Occasionaly over breakfast I've tried to have a decent conversation about said topic which doesnt go down to well. Getting skelped across the face with a cocopop wouldn't be a good start to the day.

This is most definately not a topic for woman.

Passing flatus ('farting' for the uneducated), is a perfectly natural physiological function-indeed the little Valves of Houston-situated deep within the rectum ('jobby house', for the uneducated) are said to separate flatus from faeces (jobbies), so God must have meant even women to fart.


My ex wife claimed she never farted-it was possibly true as I rarely got close enough to check.

My new partner seems more enlightened-her face beams with pleasure when she experiences the onset, and she lets it rip like a true fella.

My new partner's a breath of fresh air compared to the last one.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 11:29:31
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 29 2008, 11:10 AM) [snapback]453490[/snapback]
Just aswell 'cos I wipe at least 6 times. Was starting to get worrying.

Where is this 'Uncle Jimmys' you speak of? I live in Barnhill Street which should be nearby to this place you speak of.

Uncle Jimmy lived in a top floor tenement in Belville Street-long since demolished and replaced by those horrible high flats with the daft bunnets.

Jimmy (he was actually my Dad's uncle) was a real character, and the epitome of kindness. He was a coal merchant, and despite being a very wee man thought nothing of lugging hundredweight bags of coal to the top of four storey closes all day long.

He used to count out the money on the kitchen table-as a wee boy I thought he was minted, though in reality, he only scraped a living.

He spoke the Greenock version of 'Broad Scots'-I loved when he talked about the 'dug's bowel' for example, and he used to let me pee in the scullery sink-there was an outstanding view of the harbour and estuary from that window- when my Granny Barbour wasn't looking.

I always remember when his next door neighbour Hannah died. Jimmy never married, and had had a love hate relationship with Hannah for many years. The lady downstairs knocked his door, and said to him-'Jimmy, I've got bad news-Hannah died during the night'. Apparently he screwed up his face before saying ruefully-'funny she's never done THAT before'!

mortonjag 2008-05-29 11:47:40
QUOTE(Trust Member @ May 29 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]453483[/snapback]
Just for the sake of being clear about this, Jim McColl is not an employee of Morton. He does not have a job at Morton. He is a director of Morton appointed, like all other directors, by the shareholders at the AGM of the club and he is legally, like all other directors, responsible to all shareholders. Jim has said clearly he is only there to represent the Trust as the second biggest shareholder, just as DDF represents Golden Casket as the biggest shareholder. He has said at Trust AGMs that if he were not representing the Trust there is no way he would have agreed to go on the board.
Any voluntary admin tasks he takes on are purely that, and are to help the club just as many other people do voluntary tasks to help the club whether they agree with the present administration or not.

Ultimately I believe Jim McColl should do what he feels is honourable. If he is already in that position, despite others feeling he is unable to truly represent the Trust, they should take a vote and if necessary request his resignation.

What is the legal position about directors of GMFC. Arthur Montford and Iain Brown departed recently while Alastair Donald-not currently a shareholder I believe- became a Director. Is it laid down that the Trust must have a representative on the Board?
mortonjag 2008-05-29 11:56:44
QUOTE(Alexton @ May 28 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]453345[/snapback]
I'm new here.

I've made up a couple of verses of a new song to the tune of an old hit, (Tom Hark by the Piranhas according to my dad). Add your own verses:
I met my mate,
the other day,
he told me he'd seen,
the white Pele,

5 feet 10,
of solid muscle,
he goes by the name
of Ian Russell.

&

I met my mate,
he asked what's new,
I told him I'd seen,
the white Cafu,

his face is tanned,
but the tan is fake,
he goes by the name
of Brian Wake



I met my mate
the other day
he told me
news I couldny swally

It seems DR
has fired DI
and gied the job
tae Super Khali
mortonjag 2008-05-29 12:00:10
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 29 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]453505[/snapback]
Wouldn't exactly say the air was fresh. tongue.gif

wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-29 12:01:34
QUOTE(manchesterton @ May 29 2008, 11:55 AM) [snapback]453502[/snapback]
I missed my mate
When she came to call
I was at Firhill
Having a ball!

Are all our mates the same person?? blink.gif

Oops... I've just posted while logged in as Manchesterton.. I'm for it! Love Jackton x

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Is he hanging out the washing?
mortonjag 2008-05-29 12:08:49
QUOTE(nach0king @ May 29 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]453510[/snapback]
I met my mate
The other day
He had some news
From the Q&A

Mortonjag
Has inside info
But he bottled out
Of going thereto tongue.gif



I met my mate
the other week
the tale he told
has made me freak

The man who spoke
at Q & A
was Nach0king
not Dougie Rae
mortonjag 2008-05-29 12:11:59
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 29 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]453512[/snapback]
Why do silent farts always seem to smellworse than loud farts ?

'Seem' is the operative word here. The audible warning allows the sympathetic nervous system to kick into 'fight and flight' mode, and the more delicate senses like taste and smell are inhibited.

I hope that sounds informed-it's probably pure keech.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 12:34:58
QUOTE(nach0king @ May 29 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]453518[/snapback]
Your mate was wrong
Therein's the rub
For Dougie Rae
Is surely 'the club'?

He wouldn't let
The Nacho speak
The limelight was
What made his week

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-29 12:39:58
QUOTE(jackton @ May 29 2008, 12:12 PM) [snapback]453516[/snapback]
He doesn't know where the washer is,
The drier or the hob,
His answer to the chores?
"Get a woman for the job"

He never lifts a finger,
Hoover, brush or cloth
Does this make my mate
A lazy, Idle Sloth??
I'm going to quit now or I won't get my dinner made tonight.. rolleyes.gif


He's but a man
who thinks he's 'King'....
the women -pregnant-
barefoot thing

is hard to beat
I've heard it said.
Just 'shut up shop'
when you're in bed! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-29 20:19:19 It's a funny old world!

The thread was NEVER started to undermine the trust in any way-that seems to have happened as a by product, and maybe good will come of it.

The real point was that between £10,000 and £15,000 has, I believe, recently been handed over to 'the club', and given that questions asked have still not been fully answered, will the trust now ensure it is enabled to keep a precise track of moneys donated for specific purposes?
mortonjag 2008-05-29 20:27:02
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ May 29 2008, 05:34 PM) [snapback]453665[/snapback]
But clearly not as astute as someone who prefers to pay in to each home game rather than buy a season ticket. wink.gif Still, DDF will be gutted when he hears MJ won't be renewing next season. laugh.gif laugh.gif

Smiffy-don't try to second guess the Jag-you will never win. It is a carefully calculated decision and is based on more than just price-that's where the astuteness comes in-not that you'd understand.

DDFR probably will be upset that his season ticket sales are yet again down-as I've suggested before there's been a steep hike in the price of sugar recently-that will probably be as good an excuse as any.

QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 29 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]453693[/snapback]
Perhaps the difficulty in replying to my e-mail concerning the youth set up has further delayed correspondance to renew season tickets .
If I am not worthy of a reply to my questions I made several weeks ago I won't be handing over my money upfront .

wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-29 20:30:05 Sorry it didn't work out, but as with Sanny it seems a fool and his money (or Golden Casket's) are easily parted.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 20:31:57 FFS that lot are taking so long to die that Jesus and Lazarus must be worried about their future street cred.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 20:39:24
QUOTE(EBu @ May 29 2008, 03:17 PM) [snapback]453601[/snapback]
I feel as if I now know you WAY too well... blink.gif

I can let you have the demo DVD if you wish.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 20:45:21
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 29 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]453606[/snapback]
Loud, rapturous farts are to be commended only when accompanied by equally witty one liners .... a few of my favourites over the years including ;

"Evening all" (performed whilst bending knees a la Dixon of Dock Green)

"you'll have to buy that now, you've ripped it"

"you'll have to speak up caller, its a terrible line"

"they're firing sir, they're firing"

"a bit more choke and that would have started".


"keep shouting sir, we'll find you"

"did somebody stand on a duck's heid"

"speak on, sweet lips that never told a lie" or the very simplistic

"well struck sir"

and so on ...........

TonInDublin

Possibly lost on the new generation but absolutely crackin' that one!

Now I know I'll not get off with this, but Dougie Rae-mike in hand-'And here's one I prepared earlier'! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-29 20:56:52
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 29 2008, 12:28 PM) [snapback]453525[/snapback]
Aye, your old stomping ground is infested with vermin now.
That is unnervingly accurate my dear jag, you haven't been sponging the system have you.

Registered as such with their GP, hence the inability to work to which social security hand over more dough per week than to your average bevvy merchant. My point being that those registered as unable to work through drink or drugs receive more money from the government which is just plain feckin silly in my eyes.
Also I believe when you register as sick but looking for work (for some this does what it is intended to do, get those on the sick who WANT to work into the job market) you automatically have the opportunity to access a fund which is solely for your own use at the discretion of your appointed advisor.
This is much abused as the lazy b*****d Rangers fan from Ayrshire proved a few weeks ago by obtaining enough from the social to partake in the Manchester invasion.

My point is why does an alcoholic or drug addict (registered with the government rolleyes.gif ) receive extra monies?
Rent paid = approx £65pw
Council tax paid = approx £25pw

Incapacity Benefit
Incapacity short-term (lower rate) £63.75 1st 28 weeks
short-term (higher rate) £75.40 28 to 52 weeks
long-term basic rate £84.50 52 weeks +
You also have the addition of loans, grants, free travel. They can earn almost as much as the average working person in Inverclyde

Jobseeker's Allowance
Person aged 16-17: £35.65
Person aged 18-24: £46.85
Person aged 25 or over: £59.15

Can you see the madness of this current situation.

If someone looking for a job can get by on £59.15 why can't an alky or junkie get by on the same?


I was a Medical Examiner for the DHSS/DSS for over twenty years in addition to working as a G.P. in some of the most deprived areas in Scotland, so I've seen it from both sides of that divide if you like.
The system's often very unfair-our good posters will just laugh, but the Jag has had personal experience of the way it discriminates against those seeking work.

That does not alter the fact that GP's are not paid to police the Benefits system, and a large number of addicts are plainly unfit for any form of work because of their illness.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:00:17
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 29 2008, 08:30 PM) [snapback]453718[/snapback]
Or drug addicts, and exploiters of vulnerable young men and women for their own sexual gratification

Indeed Constable Claymore!
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:02:28
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 29 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]453737[/snapback]
Let's hope you don't crash it then.......Although statistics say you probably will... tongue.gif

Are black Polos accident prone Constable?
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:04:50
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 29 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]453721[/snapback]
as i said if you want further info contact us direct and we will try and answer your questions. contact us here info@gmst.org.uk

Thanks Bryan-do you also have the direct link for Mr Rae's question answering service?


Cue................. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:06:21
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 29 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]453730[/snapback]
http://www.saintmirren.premiumtv.co.uk/pag...1321139,00.html

if you canny see it, skunks game now sat the 26th
Ha-it's my boy's 32nd birthday. I predict a 3-2 victory- Spoonsy 2, LEAFY 1.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:07:58
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 29 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]453742[/snapback]
You talkin tae me ? blink.gif

Bloody hell-you're not a sergeant!!!


SERGEANT SPURTLE! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:10:09
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 29 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]453740[/snapback]
I'm always calm..... tongue.gif

I've just noticed the striking resemblance between Bawheid and SIR Cliff Richard.

Please remove that photo from the thread-I'm out of maxolon.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:12:52
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ May 29 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]453749[/snapback]
Thank you for the reassurance. wink.gif

Well done Joe-when the princess passed all the men had a race to congratulate her-now they'll probably call me and port ton pooves.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:17:02
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ May 29 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]453736[/snapback]
Is addiction an illness? Discuss.

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The World Health Organisation would say so. Those who disagree may be charged under the Disability Discrimination Act.

Let the discussion commence! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:20:03 In the first picture I see a handsome man stirring a blue and white pot.

In the second I see an ugly wretch who's been doing the same for two decades.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:25:04
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 29 2008, 09:12 PM) [snapback]453751[/snapback]
It's not reassurance ye need. It's insurance tongue.gif

Sergeant Spurtle in rare wit! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:26:19
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ May 29 2008, 09:22 PM) [snapback]453760[/snapback]
Totally agree. The SNP is gambling on Scotlands fear of a Tory government (and secretly hoping for a Tory win I would argue). I think a debate could be won now so why not bring it on?

Mr McArthur the Monkey has just claimed to love you.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:27:40
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ May 29 2008, 02:02 PM) [snapback]453555[/snapback]
Funny you should mention that, as I was just reading that apparently the Fritzl's lived on nothing but sandwiches the whole time. They say it's just as well they were all interbred.

Subway or Undergound?
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:37:12
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 29 2008, 09:27 PM) [snapback]453763[/snapback]
ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

Look Sergeant-Cliff was ADORED by young women in the fifties and sixties-if he's now adored by young men......... who gives a f*ck-----he's a handsome man and if I was a pufe I bet I'd love to cuddle him.

Bawheid is one ugly c*nt whom I couldn't bear the thought of shagging for all the s's in Mississippi.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:41:08
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 29 2008, 09:37 PM) [snapback]453770[/snapback]
apologies for the cliché, but you see what you want to see sad.gif

Don't you mean 'I see what I want to see' or better still, 'one sees what one wants to see'.

You see, Trumpet- Sergeant Spurtle really wants to see a naked Sir Cliff's identity- if you see it as I want you to see it.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:44:24 The McCanns may be as pure as the driven snow, but they were daft enough to upset the Polis.

They deserve all they are now getting.

Nobody beats the Polis.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:47:11
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 29 2008, 08:39 PM) [snapback]453723[/snapback]
WoooHooo !!!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Best news i've read in ages.
f*** off gretna, you wont be missed one bit !

BEER MONKEY-where have you been my old mate-you are WELCOME to slag me to f*ck-the current lot are pure crap! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:48:42
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 29 2008, 09:45 PM) [snapback]453776[/snapback]
no, i did mean 'you'

You are a trouble making turd-but I like you.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:50:21
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ May 29 2008, 09:38 PM) [snapback]453772[/snapback]
It's my 48th birthday, 3-1 to the 'Ton, Wake (2) and new striker (1) laugh.gif

laugh.gif
8-4 to the Ton

The mighty Khali 7 Millen o.g.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:54:07
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 29 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]453745[/snapback]
rolleyes.gif if you dont want to directly ask us the question, pm me and ill pass them on to jim..

laugh.gif
You misunderstood-I was wanting to ask Shoogly if he's doing anything this weekend.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:56:21
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 29 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]453728[/snapback]
laugh.gif

You are kidding ain't you? laugh.gif

edit to add - After doing a wee bit of digging I find out that Ian Brown and Jim McColl were the only directors the only other reps there from the club were the groundsman and the accountant.
I think that shows contempt for not only the fans but the shareholders too, another example of what GMFC think of those ''below them''.

The question that springs to mind is who at Cappielow arranged a EGM the same day as the SFL AGM.

He's not even a director!

Who is this accountant wallah BTW-some claim he knows hee haw!
mortonjag 2008-05-29 22:10:24
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 29 2008, 10:00 PM) [snapback]453782[/snapback]
you ask him tongue.gif

no questions then for the trust or jim rolleyes.gif

I've already said my gripe is not with the trust Bryan-your exaggerated 'openness' is beginning to make me feel suspicious.

Put more simply-'WE HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE'-said five or six times when nobody claimed you have, rings alarm bells.

I'll work on this, and sleep well. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-29 22:15:46
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 29 2008, 10:12 PM) [snapback]453791[/snapback]
laugh.gif nothing exagerated, im just seeing if you would ask anything tongue.gif

Ok then-see thae fake invoices McColl claims are up at Auld Shoogly's bit. The Monkey delivered them tae the fraud squad earlier the day.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 22:38:30
QUOTE(marbellaton @ May 29 2008, 10:09 PM) [snapback]453787[/snapback]
If that is your opinion aswell then hold me back, because I agree with you. He is a complete and utter pillock of a man and has been DDFR's financial lapdog for years.

I don't know who this mysterious 'accountant' is-though he must be a qualified accountant if he's doing the books-OR WAIT-the books are 'certified' by a local CA firm-----------HA------------- dry.gif


I could be wrong but there is a poster on this rag who regularly produces accountant like rumblings-indeed he has posted no earlier than this very day.

Could this be the man of whom we speak simultaneously-I DO hope I'm not making a complete ass of myself here. I'm very guilty of misjudging the 'Shoogly Show'.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 22:51:24
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 29 2008, 10:19 PM) [snapback]453799[/snapback]
that's a 'no', then ohmy.gif

I have carefully observed you Trumpet.

I hope you'll forgive me for opining that you are indeed no supporter of Greenock Morton. You remain anonymous-don't attend matches, and only ever post in an attention seeking manner.

'Pot, kettle, black'-I hear you cry, pathetically attempting to upstage the cliche mad masses.

Correct my friend, but my attention seeking is done with genuine altruism. I love Greenock Morton, and I detest dictatorship.

Why don't you move over to the enlightened side?

There again maybe you ARE Auld Shoogly-if you are, I don't really hate you ya auld fud-just try to grow up-it can't possibly be 'your ba' all the time. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-29 23:00:27
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 29 2008, 09:43 PM) [snapback]453774[/snapback]
At last a website that gives less info than GMFC .
If they survive it will give the Shire another chance of not finishing bottom .
Bye bye country bumpkins .

I genuinely wonder what the first thing to cross Mileson's mind is when he wakes up of a morning.

I'd imagine he's firmly focussed on the company that's currently under most VAT scrutiny.

'Brooks Dear-it looks like Gretna are finally going under'

'Don't talk rubbish Honey-we're folding them this week, and doing another 'Phoenix'.

'I said GRETNA Angel'

'GRETNA-oh that football club thing in Scotland-I'm glad Rowan and I sorted things out-more toast please my sweetie!
mortonjag 2008-05-29 23:04:20
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 29 2008, 11:02 PM) [snapback]453824[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2008-05-29 23:09:02
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 29 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]453786[/snapback]
I agree , any politician who stood by their convictions is as extinct as the perverbial dodo .


Shooooooooooogly


mortonjag 2008-05-29 23:10:10
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 29 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]453794[/snapback]
Marauding Rangers supporters would put your theory to the test . tongue.gif

Nobody beats the POLIS-ask Sergeant Spurtle! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-29 23:13:38
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 29 2008, 09:32 PM) [snapback]453768[/snapback]

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OOOOOOOOH errr Sergeant Spurtle-you are awful-but I like you---WALLOP!
mortonjag 2008-05-29 23:17:15 UPDATE

Click on 'Mortonjag' and you'll see a rather sad fotie of my geetar and amp.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 07:48:49
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ May 30 2008, 12:23 AM) [snapback]453844[/snapback]
This all sound as exciting as the AGM that I was attending in Glasgow tonight - as for making an ass of yourself - shurely shome mistake... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

BTW the GMFC accounts are not certified - they are audited by a firm controlled and regulated by the Institute of Chartered Accountants in Scotland. An audit opinion is most different from "certified" accounts...

What are your qualifications Tail Bearer?

Mine are lengthy, and if posted here I will be abused. Fortunately Shooglyphilia is now more sporadic than endemic and my last antibody titres were high.

Oh'---and my wee brother's annual turnover's about £700,000,000-it's not his money-mind-he's just the accountant in charge. He has a first class Honours Degree from a proper University

My wee brother's a trust member I believe.

My son's a First Class Honours law graduate, also from a decidedly proper University, but not quite as proper as that previously mentioned.

My daughter has a PH.D in psychology. Sometimes she's too proper for her own good.

My other son's businesses are turning over hmm-shall we say a figure approaching 10 million p.a.

I am Company Secretary for one of his endeavours.

The Monkey is a Graduate of many improper Universities-and like his dad is a bit embarrassed to quote his unending list of skills.

Fing is an accomplished nail gun hit man.


Most importantly, I forgot to add, though it's oft been mentioned before.

I've supported Greenock Morton all my life, my heart's in the right place (certified) and as long as there's breath in my botty I will continue anonymously to suffocate the directors box of a Saturday afternoon.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 07:57:02
QUOTE(The Naitch @ May 30 2008, 06:25 AM) [snapback]453865[/snapback]
So now you're welcoming abuse? Have your fishing trips been that bad lately? rolleyes.gif

I have always encouraged decent abuse-beermonkey is just-------well------ abusive-and that's OK by me.

The abusers with (what they think are) hidden agendas waste so much of this great man's precious time.

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mortonjag 2008-05-30 08:10:47
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 29 2008, 09:28 PM) [snapback]453765[/snapback]
The monkey is a homo ohmy.gif


Fing wants to know who's calling his bruvver a pufe.


QUOTE(El gofer @ May 30 2008, 03:22 AM) [snapback]453860[/snapback]
Few drinks down the line but, I am hoping we go with the referendum , as I think it would be yes if the facts came out.

The fact that people think that whisky and oil are the main exports maybe true now, but the figures for other engineering and manufacturing is more significant than is anticipated. We in Scotland are not and will not be a 2nd world country.
The main raw resource is ourselves and the under 25s that folk on here are so ready to call for all the s***e under the sun in the daily mail express and this forum. I will openly own up to being a lily arsed whatever, but until the whole system of giving our young people qualifications and preparation for work is overhalled (sp) then we cant even think properly of moving forward. Weans coming out of school without standard grades in french /modern studies /history/english for example, who get into alsorts of grief in those subjects, but are look for any sort of access into a trade. I am a history and mod stud teacher. I love my subjects and look to make sure all weans who come through my class enjoy studying the subjects. i reckon that for a lot of the guys who left my standard grade class this year, are wondering about their fifth year in school or college or work. They will think about the money they will get for staying in school next year. I hope their fifth is fruitful.....the present system doesnt make it too easy.

I want an independent Scotland that is geared up for our young folk and also set up for our deserving elderly who have worked and paid.
I may sound like tommy sheridan but am by no means him or his people's front of judea.

Signed.

A skiving teacher with a few idealistic ( but realistic..though slightly drink assisted!) thoughts

Mon e ton!



You sound as much like Sherrybum as Bawheid looks like Homo Sapiens.


Salmond becomes more pragmatic, paranoid, and myopic, by the day.


Power without responsibility- the haven of the personality disordered and politician.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 08:19:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 30 2008, 02:48 AM) [snapback]453859[/snapback]
Children as young as two are taking Ritalin to treat ADHD, and more than 300 kids aged five and under in NSW depend on the controversial drug.

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

bring back the 1950s

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=571757

A classical example of the cart pulling the horse!

Unruly brats, most of them with parents on the 'me, me , me' treadmill, who haven't time to bring up their status symbols properly.

How dare anybody suggest that their assertive and attention craving sprogs are little mirrors of their parents.

NO-they must be suffering from a disease, and the disease MUST be treated or else.


I'd suggest 25% might genuinely benefit from Ritalin-the parents of the rest require little pink botty therapy.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 08:28:42
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 30 2008, 08:20 AM) [snapback]453874[/snapback]
I don't think the Tories would dare try to abolish the Scottish Parliament. Anyway, would they not need to get approval for that course of action in a referendum? - and there is no way that Scots would vote for that, even most Scottish Tories would tell him to get tae.



I genuinely believe that Scotland can do well by itself-a once proud nation has undoubtedly had its potency diluted by many factors, including membership of the United Kingdom.

This is how I believe a large number of Scots of varying political leanings think.

What Salmond HAS done-and it was no small achievement, is to show that the dream has become a possibility.

Now he appears to go out of his way to demonstrate how BADLY it can be done. Let's have a referendum sooner rather than later-he's shooting himself in the foot by dallying, and he's denying us the real opportunity to move onward.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 08:35:35
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 30 2008, 08:28 AM) [snapback]453876[/snapback]
good grief sad.gif

So you are Shoogly.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 08:37:19
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 30 2008, 08:25 AM) [snapback]453875[/snapback]
you're in danger of exhausting you tit ration with one post tongue.gif

I wasn't addressing you Trumpet Shoogly-the post was for the Tail Bearer.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 08:44:23 I first heard that in Primary Five. Miss Gallie explained that a 'cloot' is a garment, and that in Scotland the weather was often unsettled through May.


Over the last ten or twenty years, I've rarely had a need to go oot 'clooted' in May, but just when I was getting complacent, the month about to end has been one of the coolest and most unpredictable I can remember.

Get it sorted Bawheid-it's Scotland's sun.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 09:27:13
QUOTE(se65an @ May 30 2008, 09:11 AM) [snapback]453887[/snapback]
But he has nothing to hide. What reason would the Trust have to hide anything.

Unless the trust us being lied to Bryan is 100% right.

I still feel the bigger question is why are we trying to run a youth operation from only donations from the Trust etc, why isn't DDR putting money into making sure it is run correctly, and professionally

Sean-

Jim, Bryan, Stuart et al are good guys-please don't misunderstand me-but they are good guys whose cage has clearly been rattled. I believe they feel vulnerable because they secretly know that Rae has called every shot from day one. Nobody likes his impotence displayed in public.

Rather than cow towing, the Trust should IMO have taken a stout stand over many issues.

Rae has treated the fans like sh*t several times and walked away unscathed. Others have had the balls to criticise openly on this forum and don't imagine for one minute Rae doesn't know all about it-indeed this forum is FAR more potent than attendance at his carefully timed and stage managed 'Shoogly Show' embarrassments.

Wake up and smell the coffee. E-mail the club and 'the club' will respond if it sees fit-only IF!

Attend the Shoogly Show, and 'the club' will answer questions only if it sees fit.


Make donations to the club, and it appears 'the club' will use them as it sees fit.


Mention that on this forum, and all hell breaks loose.

There's never smoke without fire Sean.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 09:38:15
QUOTE(jpmil @ May 30 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]453898[/snapback]
I think that the interested party in taking over Gretna will vanish with this decision. Davies said that he hoped they would be allowed to play in Div. 1 as that would give them the bigger gates against Morton, Partick,
St. Johnston adn Dundee. With these gates no langer available I feel the possible deal is a dead duck.

F*CK Davies and F*CK Gretna, and F*CK Elliot, and SUPER F*CK the SPL.

This should all have been over months ago-it has been protracted for one reason only-GREED.

The whole of Scottish football, barring the self protection league, has suffered needlessly.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 09:41:33
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 30 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]453882[/snapback]
MJ, you have quite simply been hoodwinked by Wendy Alexander ! (oh the embarrassment rolleyes.gif )

Salmond would not be allowed to call a referendum right now. They (Labour) would squabble over the question right up to the next Holyrood election. Then they couldn't be accused of not supprting a referendum (just the question needing to be sorted)
The referendum will be the main issue of the next Holyrood election. That's why all oppostion parties are not directly ruling one out.
Last week Annabel Goldie had to be asked 4 TIMES in a BBC interview if she would vote against the SNP Bill that would be brought to parliament in 2010. The leader of the Scottish Tories didn't want to be pinned down on an empahtic NO just now because she knows it could spell electoral disaster for her and her party !

Labour know this as well. They know they are unpopular just now, and opposing a referendum in 2011 will make them more unpopular. That's why we had Wendy's bluster with "Bring it on !"
Brown would never in a million years allow them to compromise with the SNP over a referendum question right now.

I'm just surprised how many have been taken in by this blatent bluff, and by Alexander of all people !


I merely opined that a referendum NOW is what would be best for Scotland.

Just a wee point too- poor Bendy would not be human if she got it wrong ALL the time.

Hmm-maybe that was poorly put!
mortonjag 2008-05-30 09:43:36 mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

Don't you dare question me Spurtle-where I live it's been bloody freezing-those figures are lies churned out by the global warming SPL.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 09:47:12
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 30 2008, 09:27 AM) [snapback]453896[/snapback]
Is this wise, my BNF cautions tthe following re maxolon.
unsure.gif

Stick to your periodic tables you wannabe quack and stop insulting middle aged folk.

Life begins at sixty and only gets better smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 09:50:43
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 30 2008, 09:28 AM) [snapback]453897[/snapback]
Watch what you say my friend, the DDF Fan Club will stone you to death with Fudgy Wudgy.

That'll be nine Fudgy Wudgys then.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 09:59:20
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ May 30 2008, 08:55 AM) [snapback]453884[/snapback]
you're in danger of exhausting you tit ration with one post tongue.gif
ps thanks for your geneology lesson but I could not give a flying fig about it tongue.gif rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

A flying fig would not interest a lazy ass. Horses and donkeys are often rewarded with lumps of sugar. wink.gif

Tail Bearer-you sound irritated by my question- I did merely ask what your qualifications are, given that you paste stuff on here from the learners' Book of Numbers.

If you're just a kid on accountant, don't be embarrassed-the forum is full of jokers.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 10:00:54
QUOTE(Cawston @ May 30 2008, 09:16 AM) [snapback]453889[/snapback]
Sounds very positive, would be great to see some real progress with the stadium.
Got to assume Alistair Donald be taking up a fair chunk, can't see the other existing shareholders coughing up £600K.

I wouldn't jump the gun on that. Donald's a sharp cookie who would want control of his money.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 10:17:13
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 30 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]453910[/snapback]
What Labour are desperately trying to avoid (apart from having a referendum at all) is having a referendum after another year or two of a broadly popular SNP government. By that time their traditional fear campaign will be useless. They want it sooner rather than later and they want to load the question - "Do you want Scotland to be isolated, ripped out of the UK and separated from the rest of the world" or something like that would be their preferred format.

The SNP government stated in their manifesto what they would do and they are sticking to it. It would be quite wrong, and bad tactics IMHO, to allow Labour to dictate the timetable. Or the wording. Of course the SNP wants to maximise their chances. Why not? The unionists will use every dirty trick possible, so the SNP has to counter that.


I'm just a simple soul who wants to know if the Scots want independence.

Bring it on.

If the result has to be fiddled-forget it.


Do you want Scotland to become a totally independent self governing nation within the next five years.


YES


NO
mortonjag 2008-05-30 10:24:28
QUOTE(se65an @ May 30 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]453912[/snapback]
I fully agree that all costs and how people hard earned money that they donate should be made public. And I raised this at the last GMST meeting.

But from a Trust point of view it does have nothing to hide, just a bunch of guys giving up there spare time for what they believe in. Its very easy to point the finger, but the trust needs members and more people on the board to make things work.

I just love all the people on here staying the trust should do this and that, but will they volenteer to help out?

As I said the issue is not with the Trust, though things could be better if more joined up, but with DDR, so if that is your point I agree.

How can any 'profesional' club run a youth setup, with donations alone, and being run by Jim who has no experience(not a critism of Jim at all, more of DDR).

So to me, its not how the money is being spent(though I do know how it is) its why the hell is DDR trying to do it on the cheap(no cost at all to Morton)

I would love to ask DDR a million questions on this and other Morton issues if given the chance. biggrin.gif


Shoogly's skint-how many times do I have to say it-certainly in terms of GMFC-and his dealings, IMO, always carry the 'Cheapskate' trade mark.

A man whose personal wealth makes Rae look like a church mouse is hovering.

He could easily invest heavily-indeed he could easily buy the Rae family out.

The fact that he has not speaks volumes. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 11:09:56
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ May 30 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]453932[/snapback]
Seems a bit odd that DI could tell Jamie wasnt good enough in that short period of time (regardless of what happens in training), I dont believe a manager like DI with DC alongside couldnt inspire a player to overcome this "attitude" problem he's supposed to have, there is no doubt he has talent, and that talent could be used, I really belive Irons and Collins could inspire and work with him.. does the decision to let him go come from somewhere else ??? just a thought



The last story was that DI wanted to loan him out but Rae wanted his money back.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 11:14:20
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ May 30 2008, 08:55 AM) [snapback]453884[/snapback]
you're in danger of exhausting you tit ration with one post tongue.gif
ps thanks for your geneology lesson but I could not give a flying fig about it tongue.gif rolleyes.gif laugh.gif


ge·ne·al·o·gy Audio Help /ˌdʒiniˈɒlədʒi, -ˈæl-, ˌdʒɛni-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[jee-nee-ol-uh-jee, -al-, jen-ee-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -gies.
1. a record or account of the ancestry and descent of a person, family, group, etc.
2. the study of family ancestries and histories.
3. descent from an original form or progenitor; lineage; ancestry.

No qualifications in English either I see.


QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ May 30 2008, 10:40 AM) [snapback]453917[/snapback]
Au contrair mon ami, irritation is something that doctors give you a cream for! The thought of a cream coming from you just does not bear thinking about... wink.gif

As for kid on accountant - that is more in the realm of Hamcam and his goat fetish...


That confirms what I thought-all bluff and bluster-no qualifications-you haven't tried politics perchance?
mortonjag 2008-05-30 11:18:53
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ May 30 2008, 11:05 AM) [snapback]453929[/snapback]
From the age of about 4 I used to go out to play with my mates ''all day long'' but I don't hold my parents responsible for abandonement.

I don't think Maddie's accusing her parents of anything.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 11:20:45
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 30 2008, 11:12 AM) [snapback]453938[/snapback]
Urban myth I'm afraid.

Stanley only ever shot inside the box.

I see you've read Lady Matthews' blog.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 11:22:37
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ May 30 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]453936[/snapback]
why is that our away strips and now the new 3rd kit have that stupid non-collar on them.. you know the one that sits on your shoulder !! absolutely horrible.. but the new home strip looks great, quality looks great and material feels good.. cant wait to get one.



Don't ask questions on the rag-e-mail 'the club'.

You are guaranteed no answer.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 12:16:36
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ May 30 2008, 11:25 AM) [snapback]453948[/snapback]
So essentially what you are indicating is that only qualified accountants can speak with any authority on financial matters...or is it only people who are called Mortonjag have any knowledge and authority on these matters?

In your list of qualifications - are there any for accountancy?

QED as they used to say in ancient Rome...

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

You're really not very bright at all are you? ohmy.gif

I'm sorry-it appears I've misjudged you. No way would that fly old Shooglemeister employ a clown as his accountant and spy.

Please accept my unreserved apology for any offence.

I also apologise for any confusion about my qualifications-like Mr Rae, I have long experience of running my own business/es, but have no accountancy degree.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 12:19:07
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ May 30 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]453957[/snapback]
Prestonpans. Wouldn't mind seeing the return of Clydebank. They got their own stadium yet?

How's the jail my old friend-any sign of early parole?
mortonjag 2008-05-30 12:23:04
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 30 2008, 11:55 AM) [snapback]453960[/snapback]
That is my point jag, if someone is capable of challenging the world 100m record when fleeing from the town after a rather brazen act of shoplifting, is so good at working out weights and financial costs relating to a 'deal', has the ability to barter like the best in a bazaar, or can enter a house faster than a joiner or locksmith surely that person is fit for some sort of work.

The fact they receive more to feed their habit is the most galling part of our benefits system.

Very true, but the fact that they are also 'oot ther faces' for the rest of the time renders them unemployable.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 12:25:23
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 30 2008, 12:23 PM) [snapback]453968[/snapback]
So we're definitely sure she was kidnapped aye?

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mortonjag 2008-05-30 12:29:09
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ May 30 2008, 12:20 PM) [snapback]453966[/snapback]
Oooooooooh impressive

Thank you-you are one of the kindest posters who clearly gives great thought before pouncing on his keyboard.

I've actually underplayed it quite a bit as we DO have some very bright folk on the Rag, and I don't want them getting upset, or feeling inferior.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 12:33:18
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ May 30 2008, 11:53 AM) [snapback]453958[/snapback]
yes , but i'm not talking about a tranfer fee to buy a player, I'm saying if the chairman is putting pressure on the management team to offload a talented player because he "wants his money back" then what chance have the management team got to influence the footballing side.. limited .. and as we seen with ALL our previous managers if they are not allowed to influence and control the footballing side as they see fit, then we are in trouble.. ..

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Surely Mr Rae would never do that sort of thing!
mortonjag 2008-05-30 12:41:12 TODAY on GMFC



The Draw for the First Round of The Scottish Football League Challenge Cup took place at Hampden Park on Thursday 29th May. The draw saw Morton receive one of the two "byes" available.

The draw is as follows:-

NORTH/EAST DRAW

Ross County -v- St. Johnstone
Alloa Athletic -v- Dundee
Arbroath -v- Forfar Athletic
Brechin City -v- East Fife
Dunfermline Athletic -v- Stirling Albion
Peterhead -v- Montrose
Elgin City -v- Cowdenbeath

BYE: RAITH ROVERS


SOUTH/WEST DRAW

East Stirlingshire -v- Ayr United
Clyde -v- Gretna
Stenhousemuir -v- Albion Rovers
Partick Thistle -v- Queen's Park
Berwick Rangers -v- Queen of the South
Livingston -v- Stranraer
Airdrie United -v- Dumbarton

BYE: MORTON

The above ties will be played on Saturday 26th July 2008


....and still not a whisper about McManus! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 13:01:09
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ May 30 2008, 12:42 PM) [snapback]453980[/snapback]
Is this the world record for retracting a statement?

Perhaps you are the one who should consider a political career... laugh.gif laugh.gif rolleyes.gif

I wasn't aware that I had made a statement Neddy. It just occurred to me that others had been talking about Mr Rae having a personal spy on this forum, and for a while I wondered if you might be that person because you seemed to have inside knowedge about the accounts and stuff.

I had a very serious discussion with the Monkey (fing was about do do a nail gun hit on you btw), and we both agreed that although Mr Rae may not be everybody's cup of tea, in NO WAY would such a bright man ever employ such an apparent clown as you.

It was really that simple, but I'm unsurprised that I had to spell it out for you.

So you see-there was no retraction of any kind-just an apology for misjudging your ability.

Oh and unlike you unlike what I had clearly erroneously thought about you, I've never dabbled in politics.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 13:04:35
QUOTE(Muz @ May 30 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]453976[/snapback]
Just saw Jonaton's Blog. What a tool Stevenson is for posting that on there, regardless of whether McLaughlin's profile is private or not, some people on there are Ton fans I would imagine so it was obviously going to get out.....for sure on this site anyways!

Try effort Jamie, and not being in the eternal huff all the time, you might get a game......it's nothing to do with your height, more your heart.....

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

So there's NO point in Sanny re-applying?
mortonjag 2008-05-30 13:13:10
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 30 2008, 01:08 PM) [snapback]453984[/snapback]
Unfortunately TaunTon the referendum would only be able to pass through parliament with the help of opposition parties.
Labour are the only party at present who "seem" to be in favour of this. As I have mentioned, they will want their own question on the referendum. One that is favourable to the unionist agenda.
You are correct when you say, "potential squabbles over the question is a complete red herring as any prevarication by opposition parties will be correctly identified by the electorate as fear of giving the people a choice. "
But to maximise this, it would be better to bring the Bill to parliament in 2010, just before the elections. Parties opposing the referendum, or messing about with the question, could pay dearly at the election that would follow on the heels of the bill being put to parliament.
That's why the timing if this is so important.


Spurtle-is a referendum not intended to discover the wishes of the PEOPLE?
mortonjag 2008-05-30 13:29:13
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 30 2008, 01:23 PM) [snapback]453988[/snapback]
steady

EH-are you going to start banning obvious jokes Bryan. As I said earlier I don't think the trust has deliberately done anything wrong, so why the apparent paranoia? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 13:31:08
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 30 2008, 01:25 PM) [snapback]453989[/snapback]
Aye.... blink.gif

.......why, then, does it matter when they vote on an issue of principle?
mortonjag 2008-05-30 13:36:56
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 30 2008, 01:34 PM) [snapback]453994[/snapback]
what am i banning rolleyes.gif

.......anyway I thought you were meant to be off on holiday! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 13:38:59
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 30 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]453993[/snapback]
http://www.scottishfootballleague.com/news...amp;newsid=2413 these were run this week, and we did go to it, i wonder if we signed anyone from them for the under 19s.

GMFC.net for this pish
mortonjag 2008-05-30 13:40:23
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 30 2008, 01:39 PM) [snapback]453997[/snapback]
from modding, not posting tongue.gif

hmm-there's a difference then? sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 13:42:22
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 30 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]453999[/snapback]
i have no powers rolleyes.gif

then I may call you a jobby with no fear of a ban? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 13:46:08
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 30 2008, 01:42 PM) [snapback]454001[/snapback]
Because you need to put it before parliament before you can put it to the people.

WTF are you blabbering about-they are there right now-just f*ckin' ask the question NOW.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 14:10:32
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 30 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]454007[/snapback]
laugh.gif i could report you tongue.gif

you wouldn't dare you wee jobby!
mortonjag 2008-05-30 14:15:39
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ May 30 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]454004[/snapback]
As a fan and shareholder, and one who actually attended the EGM unlike many of the posters, I find most of the contributions to this thread rather depressing TBH. I am actually pleased that the Club is having a share issue to fund a programme of further redevelopment work at Cappielow which is required if we are to realise our aspirations for a return to the SPL. To be frank, who represented the Club at the meeting is, for me at least, irrelevant although it gives anti-Rae posters like MJ an excuse to go off on a rant. For those who salivate on such minutia, the Club representatives were Iain Brown (Honorary VP) and Jim McColl (Director). The auditor, whose role is independent, was not representing the Club per se and the Groundsman was there in his capacity as a shareholder. mad.gif

Frank Smith-depressed fan, shareholder and member of that dying breed-the 'pro Rae poster'!

GIRUY my friend! dry.gif

QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ May 30 2008, 01:53 PM) [snapback]454006[/snapback]
What a plonker! All this smacks of a sad man with a huge inferiority complex. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Oh don't worry itchy baws-it's maybe going right over your head, but it's sure achieving exactly what was planned.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 14:19:12
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 30 2008, 01:48 PM) [snapback]454003[/snapback]
blink.gif
WTF you on about ? Has the Sun go to you ?

I am immune to all types of ray.


ASK THE PEOPLE NOW


Why not? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 14:21:24
QUOTE(tigerjock @ May 30 2008, 02:00 PM) [snapback]454009[/snapback]
barbie, i'm afraid our gourock bretheren is of a bleating heart type.......a good old can of unleaded followed by one of the red head skinny sticks out a box of swan vestas would give them something to think about

You plan on setting fire to a church?
mortonjag 2008-05-30 14:23:39
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 30 2008, 01:59 PM) [snapback]454008[/snapback]
Labour poll blow: Party popularity at hits new low

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/politics/L...rity.4136027.jp

GORDON Brown's popularity among voters is the same as Sir John Major's at his lowest point and worse than Michael Foot, according to a poll today. rolleyes.gif

It just goes to show how an overambitious Scotsman can f*ck any party Spurtle.

Don't be too smug.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 14:33:07
QUOTE(El gofer @ May 30 2008, 02:24 PM) [snapback]454018[/snapback]
WTF has your family's qualifications got to do with anything???

O MY GOD !!!!

That has to be one of the most self obsessed and self important posts I have read!!!

Cue some abusive post.

Its amazing how people can post with authority whe when not in attendance.

But hey!! lets just surmise anyway!!!



I take it you are posting from school Sir. That's the kind of thing I've come to expect of folk the same age as my kids who have issues with others' success.

Mr Bam doesn't seem to mind the Jag and his fishing rod though I'd already made my catch when you posted. Enjoy the rest of the afternoon impressing folk closer to your age than you are to mine! wink.gif wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 15:01:22
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 30 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]454026[/snapback]
We have to get the question and the timing right. We may only get one chance of this in a generation.
We have suffered this union for 301 years, I'll wait another couple of years to end it for good.

You TOTALLY miss the point Spurtle.

You go on, and on, and on about the virtues of Scotland and being Scottish, and then imply that the very people you praise have to be told what they want at 'a correct time'.

I don't want a f*cking referendum to make sure that clown Bawheid's still on the throne-I want to know if the folk of Scotland wish total independence.

I for one DO, and will vote in a simple 'yes or no' referendum if offered the opportunity. If I feel it's tarted up to suit ANY political party, I'll simply abstain.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 15:07:35
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 30 2008, 02:52 PM) [snapback]454027[/snapback]
I'm not smug. I'm happy laugh.gif





I know a fat ole policeman, hes always on our street
A fat old, jolly red-faced man, he really is a treat
Hes too fine for a policeman, hes never known to frown
And everybody says he is the happiest man in town



He laughs upon his duty, he laughs upon his beat
He laughs at everybody when hes walking in the street
He never can stop laughing, he says he'd never tried
But once he did arrest a man and laughed until he died



Oh, His jolly face had wrinkled, and then he shut his eyes
He opened his great mouth, it was a wonderous size
He said I must arrest you, I didn't know what for
And then he starting laughing, until he cracked his jaw



So if you chance to meet him while walking round the town
Just shake him by his ole fat hand and give him half a crown
His eyes beam and sparkle, he'll gurgle with delight
His name is Sergeant Spurtle-well at least I think that's right.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 15:14:48
QUOTE(se65an @ May 30 2008, 03:07 PM) [snapback]454034[/snapback]
Bryan, report him... rolleyes.gif

I'll do it, where's that button

laugh.gif


Many a finger has hovered over the two buttons Sean-'Report' and 'Huff'.

I think it's usually that way too-when the Mods ignore the girning weans, they press their little huff buttons (always remembering to keek out in case they're missing something).

Anyway, everybody knows Bryan's a jobby!
mortonjag 2008-05-30 15:17:07
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 30 2008, 03:12 PM) [snapback]454035[/snapback]
jeez, that takes me back.......

.......Wullie McLean, aka "Coco the Cypriot" - worst manager in years (aye, WORSER than JM, by a fair margin!)
Think they took that picture of Pettigrew when the moon was full? unsure.gif



Really? The years haven't been good for your brain.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 15:23:19
QUOTE(Malt @ May 30 2008, 03:02 PM) [snapback]454031[/snapback]
Take the snake pie!!




INGREDIENTS
Rattle Snake
2 Blocks of Butter
Garlic Powder
Salt
Pepper
Cream Cheese
Beer Batter
Tooth Picks
Lots of Deep fryin oil

Directions
Take long pieces of your rattle snake

Take cream cheese and add good size amount on your snake meat.

Add small amounts of garlic, salt and pepper to cream cheese.

Roll snake into long pieces.

Take your butter and melt it then take your snake and cheese and let sit in butter.

Take your favorite beer batter and let the snake sit in the batter for a matter of minutes.

You will need to stick your tooth picks in the snake when you fry or the cream cheese will go all over the place.

Then take your snake rolls and drop in oil . let fry tell golden brown and then enjo
mortonjag 2008-05-30 15:27:18
QUOTE(port-ton @ May 30 2008, 03:18 PM) [snapback]454038[/snapback]
Davie Irons wants rid of Stevenson, if he didn't he wouldnt be leaving. Because Irons wants rid of Stevenson, Rae has decided he wants a fee for him. It happens with every club accross the world, not just the mighty Morton.

i wish people would stop looking for things to blame Dougie for, he has enough faults on his own without people trying to add more all the time over nothing.



I've never found it necessary!

Maybe the best way of pleasing everybody would be for Davie Irons to give Mr Rae some money-I'm not really sure which of them is the wealthier but that's not really the point I guess.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 15:30:48
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ May 30 2008, 03:29 PM) [snapback]454045[/snapback]
My renewal invite arrived today - £260 which is only a tenner more than last year from memory!

Unlike those who wish to make a protest, I will be renewing mine as will ma boy!

MJ where do you sit in the stand - I might prefer your seat to my existing one laugh.gif



If you're serious pm me-you'll be within spitting distance of the Chairman! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 15:37:58
QUOTE(El gofer @ May 30 2008, 03:29 PM) [snapback]454047[/snapback]
No sir, Inverclyde Council have their holiday this weekend.

Enjoy yourself then-I'm sure the brats were off last weekend up here!
mortonjag 2008-05-30 15:42:49
QUOTE(port-ton @ May 30 2008, 03:35 PM) [snapback]454051[/snapback]
you have valid reasons about the problems with Dougie, although they or over-used a little too much, but valid none the less. So you or anyone else dont need to make things up that aren't there about him. He's only doing what every chairman in the land does, but because he's Dougie Rae all of a sudden this is a crime.



If I was Dougie Rae, I'd be a bit miffed, and I bet the other GC shareholders ain't too pleased either.

I thought Stevenson was a good signing, and I'm slightly pissed off with the slaggings he's had. A part time second division outfit could get him on fire, yet he withered at Cappielow-and is not the first player in that category.

Maybe the parachutists descending upon Cappielow wasn't such a good idea.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 15:43:54
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ May 30 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]454052[/snapback]
But Irons seemed to saying that Stevenson was free to leave if he could find a club, as in no club would have to pay a fee for him if they wanted as we wanted him off the wage bill. Now Rae's saying we want a fee. Surely they would have discussed this at the time and decided then if they wanted a fee or not, rather than not communicating and sending out mixed messages?

Stop being obtuse! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 15:47:39
QUOTE(El gofer @ May 30 2008, 03:40 PM) [snapback]454056[/snapback]
I read that again and see it as a bit of a personal attack so I apologise for that.

Still unimpressed though.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

No, no you misunderstand-this is a day for apologies it seems-Mortonjag wasn't trying to impress-that is the wrong verb Sir.

Mortonjag was giving out information which Mortonjag considered relevant to a question Mortonjag was simultaneously asking of a certain poster who likes to remain anonymous! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 15:50:19
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 30 2008, 03:29 PM) [snapback]454046[/snapback]
Sorry to disapoint you doc. I'm naw a policeman


FFS Claymore c***-why has it taken you three days to give that simple detail-you're WORSE than thae effin MSP's you get your rocks off listening to.

OK for the umpteenth time-why are you not in the Bawheid Club? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 15:55:00
QUOTE(El gofer @ May 30 2008, 03:48 PM) [snapback]454061[/snapback]
Seems clear enough to me.......!

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mortonjag 2008-05-30 15:56:41
QUOTE(port-ton @ May 30 2008, 03:53 PM) [snapback]454064[/snapback]
so maybe its Irons that wrong in this case? at the end of the day if Rae wants a fee for stevenson then Irons shouldnt be telling him he can leave the club for free. Even if Rae changes his mind at the last minute that he wants a fee for Stevenson he's entitled to do so, and even speaking as a Morton fan i'd much rather we made back some money on him than let him go for free.

Maybe they are both right and both wrong.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 15:58:08
QUOTE(Kaney @ May 30 2008, 03:38 PM) [snapback]454054[/snapback]
HAHAHAH, you loser. laugh.gif

Fing heer mait-yer kardz markt
mortonjag 2008-05-30 15:59:27
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 30 2008, 03:51 PM) [snapback]454063[/snapback]
umm, let's see -

Final 1984/1985 Scottish Premier Table

P HW HD HL HGF HGA AW AD AL AGF AGA Points GD
Aberdeen 36 13 4 1 49 13 14 1 3 40 13 59 +63
Celtic 36 12 3 3 43 12 10 5 3 34 18 52 +47
Dundee Utd 36 13 2 3 47 18 7 5 6 20 15 47 +34
Rangers 36 7 6 5 21 14 6 6 6 26 24 38 +9
St Mirren 36 10 2 6 29 24 7 2 9 22 32 38 -5
Dundee 36 9 3 6 25 19 6 4 8 23 31 37 -2
Hearts 36 6 3 9 21 26 7 2 9 26 38 31 -17
Hibernian 36 5 4 9 23 30 5 3 10 15 31 27 -23
Dumbarton 36 4 4 10 17 29 2 3 13 12 35 19 -35
Morton 36 3 1 14 18 44 2 1 15 11 56 12 -71

Wullie McLean's one and only season saw us win 5 league games, concede 100 goals (a Premier League record for that incarnation of the league), end up with a goal difference of -71 and just 12 points (again, I believe that was the worst ever). AND 7 points behind Dumbarton (!) in second-bottom place.

I rest my case.



I once did that on a water bed.It was quite embarrassing TBH.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 16:00:15
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 30 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]454066[/snapback]
And we didn't endure ethnic cleansing, rape, brutality ? blink.gif Culloden aftermath...Highland Clearances...??

Cliff Richard
mortonjag 2008-05-30 16:00:59
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 30 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]454068[/snapback]
I work better outside the party wink.gif

doing what?
mortonjag 2008-05-30 17:54:54
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 30 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]454076[/snapback]
I don't like the confines of belonging to a political party. wink.gif

Male bloody midwife Spurtle-Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeezo I'd never have guessed




Sister Spurtle at your cervix!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 17:56:03
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 30 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]454079[/snapback]
Middle aged?

You planning to live to 130? unsure.gif

At the moment 96 will do nicely!
mortonjag 2008-05-30 18:02:05
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 30 2008, 05:03 PM) [snapback]454091[/snapback]
Also, nowt wrong with building a big physical team...certainly as the lack of a physical presence within the team in the last few years has been a common complaint

True, but the thing which let us down even more than that was lack of belief and lack of leadership on the park.

Greggs make plenty of money out of Big Softies! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 18:03:22
QUOTE(big B @ May 30 2008, 05:30 PM) [snapback]454096[/snapback]
Change the record, or get another script writer.

unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 18:23:04
QUOTE(The Naitch @ May 30 2008, 06:12 PM) [snapback]454111[/snapback]
Got my form through as well. £10 increase isn't too bad either.

CPI inflation figures this month = 3%


£250 x 3% = £7.50

Shoogly wants 4% and you think it's 'not too bad'! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 18:24:10
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ May 30 2008, 06:21 PM) [snapback]454116[/snapback]
Interesting comment on the BBC during the Scotland game that Sepp Blatter is to decide whether to limit the number of foreigners in each team to 5 by 2012/2013. I think it's a great idea and one which would benefit the game, in Scotland at least. Bad news for the English Premier League though.

Thoughts?

Can't see it!
mortonjag 2008-05-30 18:36:59
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 30 2008, 04:44 PM) [snapback]454084[/snapback]
Hey, when and how will we be able to buy shares? Is there a minimum number/value required to buy them?

Why were you not at the meeting where you could have asked that question of Shoogly in person-BAWBAG-oh wait-there was nobody from the Board at the meeting-well nobody unless you count JM.

Shoogly may have been on duty at Fort Matilda-holiday weekend-nobody to stir the big Fudgy Wudgy pot I'd guess. Mustn't let pleasure get in the way of business.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 18:42:13 Avtozaz-and a bloody good band name too!
mortonjag 2008-05-30 18:44:09
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 30 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]454125[/snapback]
does the sfl agm count as a holiday



Do you have the minutes-did he ask any questions only to be ignored? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 18:46:15
QUOTE(leyTON @ May 30 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]454107[/snapback]
ill give you a tenner for it

That's what I normally get from port-ton!
mortonjag 2008-05-30 18:53:50
QUOTE(port-ton @ May 29 2008, 05:12 PM) [snapback]453647[/snapback]
Portugal will win it i think, although Croatia are my outside bet, also at 100-1 im thinking of putting a sneaky pound on Niko Krankjar being top scorer.

I just voted for Croatia before I saw your post darling-they have lots of big strong boys in the side.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 18:55:13
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ May 30 2008, 06:52 PM) [snapback]454132[/snapback]
I thought this thread was for older people. I'm only a young guy and I can clearly remember that team. It was only a few years ago. laugh.gif

One Bobby Evans-there's only.........
mortonjag 2008-05-30 19:01:46
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 30 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]453990[/snapback]
Name me one Swede who played for Morton. Danes by the shedload and a couple of Finns, but I don't think we have ever had any Swedes in our team, not that I can recall anyway.



We've had several big tumshies.


QUOTE(port-ton @ May 30 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]454137[/snapback]
Great minds think alike, and great bodies fit well together.



My arse fits your hand like an oven glove.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 19:17:52
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ May 30 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]454142[/snapback]
just ask mentaljag, if he doesn't know then i'm quite sure one of his highly qualified family members will be an expert on the subject.

I was thinking along the lines of Business Gateway, or Inverclyde Enterprise.

Is that O.K. with you pinbrain?

None of the highly qualified members of my family knows anything about business startups in Inverclyde-I just poached that from Marbellaton who obviously does.

There's a lesson in there for you-listen to those who know better instead of mocking them. I doubt if you have the wit to learn much mind you.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 19:27:50
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 30 2008, 07:13 PM) [snapback]454143[/snapback]
trying to have it both ways ohmy.gif

spot the obvious joke laugh.gif

You are becoming more deranged by the day Trumpet, and still never an opinion about Greenock Morton. You remind me of one of my brothers who also claims to be a supporter and uses this web site as his source of information.

Where are we with you and me-I really need to know because port-ton has been biting away about clandestine relationships- I used to quite love you- I hoped one day we could make mad passionate love in a cupboard or the back seat of a Mini Cooper-now all you do is try to hurt me-do you imagine that just because I criticise Dougie Rae I can't be hurt?

mortonjag 2008-05-30 19:30:31
QUOTE(pgmsc @ May 30 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]454144[/snapback]
John Collins after Hibs won the CIS cup in 2007

...and before he became assistant manager with Greenock Morton!
mortonjag 2008-05-30 19:38:13
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ May 30 2008, 07:29 PM) [snapback]454151[/snapback]
IMO the most likely explanation is that the McCann's know more than they are letting on.

That's what the Portuguese Police seem to have been working on.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 19:49:18
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 30 2008, 07:39 PM) [snapback]454159[/snapback]
Aye, if you use the CPI.

Let's try the RPI

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI would be more inclined to congratulate Mr Rae if he'd pegged the price to its previous level-that would have shown some commitment to the fans he so disenchanted last season-- if not some sound business sense.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 05:41:34
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 30 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]454198[/snapback]
you do realise that if you became a shareholder, you'd have no excuse for not going to shareholder meetings rolleyes.gif

Indeed he'd be a money bawbag-or maybe that should be a baw moneybag.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 05:47:47
QUOTE(suda @ May 30 2008, 09:59 PM) [snapback]454216[/snapback]
Don't you realise there's more people here who think your a t*** than you've persuaded round to your view of Rae (what was it at last count 20 laugh.gif ) just most of them have more of a life than constantly typing nonsense on a keyboard for somebody who has achieved so much in life you certainly have a lot of time to devote to this pish.



You don't happen to own Sudacrem-the nappy rash cream company?
mortonjag 2008-05-31 05:57:08
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 30 2008, 07:50 PM) [snapback]454164[/snapback]
You didn't 'merely suggest'. You flat-out put across the increase as a bad deal. You know fine well it is not a bad deal, you just couldn't resist your wee pop-shot at Dougie though couldn't you wink.gif

Did I? I thought I merely quoted some relative figures. People MAY decide for themselves you know! rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ May 30 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]454187[/snapback]
Season Ticket sales at Cappielow have been increasing year-on-year at Cappielow since season 2002-03, but don't you let facts get in the way of a good story - you never do. laugh.gif laugh.gif


I'm talking about the sales for this coming season you clown-how do I know they'll be down?

Quite simply because Mortonjag is NEVER wrong.


QUOTE(standman @ May 30 2008, 08:58 PM) [snapback]454193[/snapback]
That's true, I do pay more where I sit.However the fact remains that it's only £40 cheaper than my pal who will enjoy the SPL again next year !


That's correct and the Cappielow stand (much though I love the old lady) must be one of the most cramped and claustrophobic in Britain, and is served by a constantly overqueued pie stall, totally inadequate toilet facilities, and Victorian turnstyles.


QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 30 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]454225[/snapback]
Aye, I'd be interested to hear the figures. Could've sworn they were well down last year.


I seem to recall that too.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 06:22:19
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 30 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]454166[/snapback]
does he wear a dress too?


I thought you were more of a skirt type.


QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 30 2008, 08:27 PM) [snapback]454180[/snapback]
Claims to be ??

I use this website for info on the club, as well as GMFC website & occasionally the tele website.

living 400 miles from greenock it's difficult to find info on the club from anywhere else so does that mean i can only "claim to be a supporter" as well ?

maybe someone can clear this up, what are the credentials for being a supporter ?


Claims to be my friend, and lives in Wemyss Bay! rolleyes.gif


QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ May 30 2008, 09:24 PM) [snapback]454206[/snapback]
This reply is not aimed specifically at Midtons, I know Jim well after all I once fired him. dry.gif

But I really believe we have to clear up some misconceptions about the Supporters' Trust. And this is not just for people on this msg board.

We are not the club, a supporters club, travel club or protest group. That is not what we are all about.

If you want learn more about the Greenock Morton Supporters' Society Ltd, to give us our full title there is more than enough reading on our website. One example of that is our input to the Co-Operative Education Trust Scotland (CETS) which we pulled together for distribution to schools. Yes Government organisation come to us and ask for our "assistance".

http://gmst.org.uk/index.php?option=com_co...8&Itemid=80

Yes, we do communicate but the vast majority of our communication is done through our website. We do that for a number of reasons.

1. It cost a packet to post anything these days other than a postcard.

2. With over 500 people registered on our database, apologies to those who like exact figures but believe it or not it does go up as more people are actually joining, it can cost us £140 plus for one mail shot and that's postage alone.

Add in the cost of printing, envelopes, time spent organising this which includes stuffing as many pieces of paper in a single envelope as you can get for 27p and it all adds up. We can easily spend over £200 a time telling our members something they can read on our website. We would rather spend the money elsewhere.
But we still do on occasion write to our members as we a realise not everybody has access to the internet. You might think so, but let me you assure you we have members who do not.

3. The membership fees have stayed static for around 7 years. We have kept it that way on purpose as we know money is not in abundance in Inverclyde.

Any information we have is on our website. We don't keep secrets. We have no secrets. We are a democratic society ,our members control the Trust.
There is only one circumstance in which we do not pass on information and that is when it is given in confidence. We will not break a business confidence, not now not ever. We have the reputation of our organisation to protect.
Therefore don't expect headline news about which player Morton is about to sign rolleyes.gif or how much money they earn. ohmy.gif
If you want that the rumour mill is a better bet than the Supporters' Trust.

There are people on here who spend a lot more money in Tesco's every week than they spend at Cappielow or donate to the Supporters' Trust and are subjected to a lot less loyalty from Sir Terry Leahy. But I suppose there must be a Tescounnofficial.com where they are on every day complaining about Tesco. dry.gif
We have been going now since before 2002 and each year we diligently ask folk to either volunteer or put themselves forward to join the board of the Trust. And each year we get a deafening silence.
We cannot keep this organisation vibrant and forward looking if we don't have a large membership with volunteers willing to give some of their free time to help keep this organisation alive.
We have a Scottish Conference next Saturday in Stirling where the Trust are willing to pay the registration fees and transport for up to three members to the event, no takers.
We can't keep asking the same people year in year out to volunteer. Some of us need a break, we need other people to come forward, people who will uphold the Trust values.

We do not represent Morton fans, we never have.
Jim McColl is not the fans representative on the board at Cappielow. Jim McColl is on the board to represents the second biggest shareholder at Cappielow, The Greenock Morton Supporters' Society Ltd, which in turn is owned by its members who happen to be Morton Supporters. The ones that is who are paid up members of the Supporters' Trust.

We do not p***y foot about with the powers that be at Cappielow. I can assure all our members that our Director at Cappielow looks after the interest of our company . He has a legal obligation to look after our, the Supporters' Trust , interest. We have invested over £120,000 in Greenock Morton Football Club and Jim McColl is there to look after that investment not "p***y foot about".

For all those people who want more of a say in what goes on at Cappielow, the only opportunity your going to get is by making the Supporters' Trust the strongest independent voice at Cappielow. To do that we need to purchase shares, make no mistake that's how you get power. To do that we need a large membership body and as many volunteers as possible.

And to those who say it will never happen and there are many of those also, I know I've spoken to them.
What is the alternative? The singular most stable thing about any football club is it's supporters.
Owners come and go (yes even the benevolent ones), I've seen many good and bad, one in particular, players come and go, again I've seen many good and bad, but with supporters its a lifetime commitment. We don't go anywhere else not to the golf course or the cricket or rugby club

There are those who say that supporters couldn't run a football club, they don't have the skill and knowledge, not so.

Four lower league clubs in England that are owned by their Supporters Trust all got promoted this season.

http://www.supporters-direct.org/news/item...&cat=sd_sco

Not bad for a supporters who can't compete with these smart worldly businessmen.

Rant over sad.gif ...join the Trust , volunteer, and you can make your voice heard and not just on the terracing.





BLOODY HELL-you make Shoogly sound brief!

Correct me if I'm wrong Stuart. For years the Trust has quite happily sailed along in the full knowledge that Jim McColl was perceived as 'the fans' representative on the Board'- a phrase quoted time after time after time.


Now you are saying that he's on the Board in some sort of statutory capacity to represent the second biggest shareholder. The trust is constantly pleading for more investment from fans, but it's blatantly obvious that nobody is currently going to invest in GMFC with a snowballs' chance in hell of making a quick return. It seems perfectly clear to me that the real function of the trust should be to offer some balance of opinion at Boardroom level, and that the raison d'etre of a 'Jim McColl' is to voice 'the opinion' of those fans he represents-it's clearly not to debate the finer points of high finance!

I am confused as to Jim's position-some say the Trust is not entitled to have a representative on the Board-is that correct?

Anyway-back to the main issue-you can go on till you are blue in the face about the Trust being 'a group of investors', but facts are chiels that winna ding, and the fact is that the Trust is SEEN as the fans' voice in the Boardroom.

Not only that, but it is clearly seen as the embodiment of everything that's good and loyal about being a Morton fan, and now you are telling us that its rep on the Board is NOT THERE TO REPRESENT THE FANS.

Talk about shooting yourself in the foot! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-31 06:42:02
QUOTE(stuart @ May 30 2008, 10:16 PM) [snapback]454238[/snapback]
I would be very happy for Mr Rae to shell out the 80 grand or whatever for McGowan, I reckon we could make a profit on him soon enough if we had to.

Best player I've seen at Cappielow since Lindberg, baffled me why some people didn't want Mr Rae to shell out the money for him last close season.



QUOTE(JonaTon @ May 31 2008, 12:54 AM) [snapback]454280[/snapback]
Because it was much more than £80,000 Celtic wanted. I'm sure our highest bid was £150,000 and Celtic wanted more like £250,000. As much as I'd love us to sign him a first division club paying that kind of money for a player in this day and age is lunacy.



I'd like to see the myth that is Gowsa dispersed once and for all. He came to Cappielow on loan because he couldn't cut it at Porkheid. On song he was a thoroughly entertaining lad, but could also be an extremely frustrating player-dubbed as a striker-he more often than not ran about in bonny wee circles, ending up where he started.

Mr Rae appears to have fallen in love with him, and who could blame him-Gowsa could be a breath of fresh air in McInally's 'we have to grind out results' squad of hit and hopers, and that's when all the hype began.

If Gowsa-after another year under the Ginger Cretin Gnome-is still not breaking through, why on earth should we be willing to pay any more than a normal first division fee for an average first division player.

I'd love to see the wee man back at Cappielow. In our beefed up side I believe he could become the great player that's inside him, but only at the right price.

mortonjag 2008-05-31 06:46:05
QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 30 2008, 12:47 AM) [snapback]453850[/snapback]
Couldn't really care less if we win or lose but it does give the opportunity to yell abuse at those rancid cunst for the afternoon.

As a lifetime worshipper of things anatomical, I find that concept disturbing.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 06:53:14
QUOTE(leyTON @ May 30 2008, 08:56 PM) [snapback]454190[/snapback]
this is a serious bid though!

I'm assuming you mean the keyboard-it's certainly making me no money lying in the cupboard. The problem is that I don't live in Inverclyde, so my round trip would cost me a good part of a tenner.

Any suggestions?
mortonjag 2008-05-31 06:56:05
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ May 30 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]454169[/snapback]
It happens a lot. It all started when Nacho cracked under pressure and handed his notice in.

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QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 30 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]454170[/snapback]
I concur

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mortonjag 2008-05-31 07:00:33
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 30 2008, 09:24 PM) [snapback]454207[/snapback]
Then I'll dance to your health then, Deo Volente. tongue.gif

Whit's Deo got tae dae wi' it?

Garlic and a good shag every fortnight Mr Bam-ye canny beat it! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-31 07:08:23
QUOTE(TaunTon @ May 30 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]454186[/snapback]
No you didn't. The assumption that all Scots were victims of the above is patent nonsense. The gaelic culture is but one small part of Scotland and cannot be seen as representative of the nation as a whole.

Interesting that the name you have chosen was an active participant in ethnic cleansing, murder and brutality directed towards the very highlanders you appear so keen to eulogise.


Claymore c*ck's better and I believe, more accurate.


QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 30 2008, 09:42 PM) [snapback]454211[/snapback]
Bring it on, one simple question, "Do you wish the formation of an Independent Scotland within 2 years?"


Bawjaws Salmond doesn't want that question. laugh.gif


smile.gif


QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 30 2008, 10:17 PM) [snapback]454239[/snapback]
sorry to be dim, but what was the ethnicity of the people..... left behind?


You made a right arse of that sentence.


QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 31 2008, 01:36 AM) [snapback]454285[/snapback]
f*** all this bickering and idle talk - lets get to war with these c***s. I want my f***ing oil and I want it f***ing cheap!

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mortonjag 2008-05-31 07:18:32
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ May 30 2008, 07:35 PM) [snapback]454154[/snapback]
greenock could use a thai restaurant wink.gif



It could indeed, but I reckon a Thai takeaway is a thoroughly bad idea. At the end of the day it's just another 'Ch*nky carry out'-the competition is already there and folk won't pay 25% extra for what is much nicer cuisine.


Dowsa appears to have all the necessary qualities to make a very successful go of it.

When it comes to catering, nothing beats personal service, and his trump card is his Thai wife.

Just don't call it the 'Knotty Thai'.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 08:28:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 31 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]454305[/snapback]
You chose to quote the figures that would best suite your argument though...I felt I had to correct that tongue.gif

*expects pink botty from fing*

I t wasn't an argument-that's the whole thing-it was just Mortonjag's opinion, and Mortonjag's NEVER wrong.

Fing's the nail gun assassin-he'd never stoop to thrashing little pink botties! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-31 08:30:16
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 31 2008, 08:05 AM) [snapback]454303[/snapback]
I would like to see Spartans get it personally.

laugh.gif

I would like Spartans to get in!
mortonjag 2008-05-31 08:35:38
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 24 2008, 09:28 AM) [snapback]451546[/snapback]
....I'm here tongue.gif

wink.gif

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 26 2008, 09:25 AM) [snapback]452201[/snapback]
It is a cracking day, gonna go out a walk methinks.

wink.gif

Beeen up since five this morning-it's the best time of day in the summer-looks like it's going to be a cracker-might head off to St Andrews.


HEAVENLY SUNSHINE
mortonjag 2008-05-31 08:46:20 What's happening?

It seems ages since we saw a sexy picture with the inevitable variation of 'would you'?

Are the children growing up? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-31 08:48:47
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 31 2008, 08:44 AM) [snapback]454309[/snapback]
Ach well, at least I know who to blame when I get shot by a nail!
Oh and picking and choosing figures to get your own idea across....you wouldn't be a politician by any chance? wink.gif

Politics is far too important for politicians young man.

I hope you enjoyed that breakfast-did you count the calories? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-31 08:56:51 ...Prescott-Fat Boy Slim..Terry Waite, and our own Lancashire Piss Pot!

Enjoy.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 08:59:30
QUOTE(The Naitch @ May 31 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]454316[/snapback]
If ever a quote had to be bookmarked.... rolleyes.gif laugh.gif



Don't bother wasting your time-and less of your cheek. Your are within (nail) gunshot of my launch pad.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 09:03:07
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]454317[/snapback]
Apparently we've offered a good bit more than Dundee...

I actually find that VERY difficult to understand. If true, it just proves that the chairman is-as usual-oot his box.

Davie Irons could get at least two experienced players for that sort of silly money.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 09:05:18
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]454321[/snapback]
You need to stop nailing guys 'old man.

It's quite the reverse-young men are fatally attracted to me like moths to a candle flame.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 09:07:14
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 09:01 AM) [snapback]454319[/snapback]
I agree with every bit of this. I always stated Jamie Stevenson had the ability to be one of our best players since Lindberg etc. I'm pretty sure Largston mentioned this a few times also. The only thing missing was the attitude to fight it out and make himself the first name on the teamsheet.

I reckon McInally ruined his chance at Morton by constantly playing him out of position and he quite rightly got pissed off. We have a new manager now though. He should have picked himself back up and fought for the chance to become a regular but he stayed in a huff and couldn't be arsed with the effort.

It's a shame, but he wont be missed.


Jamie's still a young man.If DI can't do an Alan Maitland, somebody else will.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 09:52:56
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]454325[/snapback]
Yeah yeah.

You see the young boys on here - vulnerable as they are. You realise you have the most posts and try and take them under your wing until they fall for it and yo'ure like a rat up a drainpipe. Shocking behaviour.

Mortonjag , as usual, is misunderstod. Port-ton groomed me for months before I succumbed to his charms-not that I'm complaining, cos he pays me a tenner a shot.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 09:55:18
QUOTE(manchesterton @ May 31 2008, 09:22 AM) [snapback]454332[/snapback]
I have just seen a couple of coppers going into Cappielow!!!! huh.gif

But will the trust be able to keep track of the money?
mortonjag 2008-05-31 10:01:36
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]454313[/snapback]
If there's fluff on the muff, they're old enough.


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QUOTE(The Naitch @ May 31 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]454314[/snapback]
Why don't you just post one yourself if you're that desperate? rolleyes.gif



I'm not that desperate.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 10:05:14
QUOTE(manchesterton @ May 31 2008, 09:34 AM) [snapback]454335[/snapback]
Puggsy, I remember the trouble at Motherwell the last time we played them (in the cup match) and there was nothing but trouble away from the ground. In fact it took us over an hour to get out of the vicinity and onto the motorway. BUT, my understanding was that the trouble was caused by Hamilton fans coming over and waiting outside until after the game to start the trouble! Unless I was miss-informed. blink.gif

The Craig Thomson casuals are notorious.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 10:15:04
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]454346[/snapback]
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Shaven haven.

It depends if there's grass on the wicket, lets play cricket.

If there's no grass, then f*** it, it could have been mowed.

I find the balls don't react the same way.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 10:24:12
QUOTE(manchesterton @ May 31 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]454349[/snapback]
Now, now MJ, don't let's start the rumour mill wink.gif

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Well my Mum used to say 'Take care of the coppers, and the pounds will take care of themselves'.

Anyway-two big POLIS seen going into Scapa at this time on a sunny May morning-I reckon somebody's finally done a hit.

CLUB MASCOT FOUND IN POOL OF BLOOD



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mortonjag 2008-05-31 10:27:51
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 10:19 AM) [snapback]454350[/snapback]
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...indeed you might as well forget the fancy stuff and settle for a full toss.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 10:49:24
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 10:38 AM) [snapback]454356[/snapback]
Mortonjag, behave for christ sake.

Snoopy, tell Mr Patel I said hello. Saturdays in T-Mobile are brutal mate. What time you in to?

I'm being as have as I can-the sun is very bright today.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 10:56:37
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ May 31 2008, 10:47 AM) [snapback]454357[/snapback]
Probably not the best idea to post it on a busy football forum mainly populated by people that live and work in the Inverclyde area.

That's true-Scottish provincial footie fans are into the Thai takeaway business big style.

Mind you I'd still go for the restaurant.

Maybe not the most fashionable situation, but Bow Thai would be nice. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-31 10:59:06
QUOTE(I_run_like_chris_templeman @ May 31 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]454360[/snapback]
Mortonjag's got a gammy leg nevermind him.

Yeah Mr Patel was asking for you mate, said to him to come down the pole later when I finish haha !!! Stuck in this pit till 6!!

....and still doesn't run like Chris Templeman.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 11:05:08
QUOTE(I_run_like_chris_templeman @ May 31 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]454364[/snapback]
Buying some colegate for Mortonjag, his breath has become increasingly vulgar, and i noticed that over an internet forum IMAGINE what it must be like in person haha !!!

Nahh a dunno mate possibly a few beers or something

Nae use to an edentulate!


Ten bob for a gummy.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 11:14:32
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ May 31 2008, 11:05 AM) [snapback]454368[/snapback]
Watching the skunks playing anyone is better value than gracing the hallowed stadium that is Cappielow Park - NO F'CKING WAY- go and stick your head in a bucket of water young man! laugh.gif laugh.gif



The poster was talking about watching SPL football for a whole season for forty quid more than having to grate your teeth at Rae and his satellites, queuing for life's simple pleasures, and being highly entertained by the May Hughes prancers.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 11:33:08
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ May 31 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]454366[/snapback]
I am surprised that an eminently qualified gentleperson such as your good self should buy into the "spy conspiracy". Surely that undermines your constant rants about DDF being an "autocratic hitleresque type dictator". Perhaps you can explain why a man who, in your opinion, does not listen to the fans would employ someone to see what it is he is not listening to? And further, as this is a public messageboard and not a masonic lodge, why not just look yourself? For the record, I am not DDF's spy on this or any other forum. I only state this clearly and unambigiously so that you cannot claim that I did not infact deny this scurrilious accusation. rolleyes.gif


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And as for being an "apparent clown", I am not the guy who talks to a monkey or believes his "fing" is a nail gun hitman. tongue.gif

I'm now more confused than ever. Yesterday I said that 'others' had talked of a 'spy', that the Monkey and I had carefully weighed things up, and that we had decided you would never be bright enough for such a remit. Accordingy, I apologised. mellow.gif

I was happy to discount the notion of 'the resident' spy, until your latest post, in which you protest somewhat vigorously at the very notion, while claiming to know absolutely nothing about it! laugh.gif

I now seriously wonder if indeed Shoogly DOES have a spy, and if perhaps you failed to be short listed for the post. Jealousy is a horrid trait.

You certainly seem very agitated at talk of espionage on the forum.

Or wait-could it be that you ARE still the spy and you are just playing the ass to deflect attention from your wickedly clever subterfuge? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-31 11:47:39 [quote name='Donkey Dave' date='May 31 2008, 11:37 AM' post='454376']
Thank you for you ever informative analysis of what Standman meant. However in my defence I would like to enlist the humour defence in that the Skunks are our bitterest rivals and I think that spending any money on them is wasted. I did include three laughing smiley things to indicate humour but as ever you seemed to have missed that and only pick out the bits that you think you can score cheap points off.


Your English is atrocious-good gracious man, even Shoogly could give you lessons. Have you ever considered night school?


mortonjag 2008-05-31 11:59:07
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 11:51 AM) [snapback]454384[/snapback]
You coming out after work?
His grammar can be ignored my old friend, he's belgian.

And he would definately take you up on the offer. laugh.gif

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A Belgian who runs like big Sanny is never a Brussels Smout-anyway-he wouldn't know what ten bob means......

just tell him Mortonjag suq le coq pour un Euro.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 12:02:58
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ May 31 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]454386[/snapback]
I am surprised that astonomers have not publicly announced that the earth is losing its orbit - given the amount of spin you put on things that are clearly stated! laugh.gif

Jus wait till shoogly hears this one...... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif



That could be construed as being quite witty.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 12:10:38
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 31 2008, 11:53 AM) [snapback]454385[/snapback]
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nail skewered through his cap , hope Fing has an alibi .





Actually the Monkey and Fing are great admirers of Cappie. Fing's been working very hard recently-there's a big job beckoning and he's trying to stabilise his targets. He'd hate to make an ass of himself.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 12:13:57
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 31 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]454391[/snapback]
Aye, you look like a real Scotl laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI always suspected LCM had an ectopic left nipple.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 12:16:40
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ May 31 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]454390[/snapback]
My apologies to the gods of syntax and semantics. rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif tongue.gif

Have you considered night school?
mortonjag 2008-05-31 12:18:28
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ May 31 2008, 12:11 PM) [snapback]454396[/snapback]
Flattery wil get you nowhere...



It wasn't flattery Tail Bearer-I didn't find it witty in the slightest.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 12:31:56
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]454398[/snapback]
Knowing young Snoopy as I do, he'd rather spank the monkey. laugh.gif

I can, hand on heart (which is in the right place) tell you I have NEVER spanked the Monkey-I have cut his banana ration, and on one occasion refused to take him to Cappielow, but I stop short at corporal punishment for Munx and Fing.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 12:34:05
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 31 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]454404[/snapback]
Hope you are getting your winter coat, gloves and bunnet on. It's 22 degrees out there laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif and it's Scotland's sun tongue.gif

Not the weather for delivering babies then! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-31 12:41:25
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ May 31 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]454402[/snapback]
No - have you?


Not really-I'm much too well qualified, though I have tutored some evening class students at the University.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 12:48:16
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ May 31 2008, 12:29 PM) [snapback]454403[/snapback]
I'll be there....fatter than ever!!

Just remembered another victory over Dunoon 3 or so years ago on the grass at the Battery.

Has the astroturf been relayed?



Aye the shuttle's due to land any time.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 12:57:56
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 12:39 PM) [snapback]454409[/snapback]
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Probably one of the sickest posts you have ever made, which takes some beating laugh.gif

f***ing quality.

I see Snoopy (I_run_like_chris_templeman) is viewing the thread, should be an interesting reply coming about his homeland soon.

What age is the monkey these days?

He was four on the fourth of this month-Fing isn't quite one and a half but they are both very precocious.

Once in a blue moon their Mum and I go out for the evening, leaving them at home.

She can never relax since the Madeleine McCann business, which is just daft, as Fing's already a dead shot with the nail gun he won at the Church fete last July, and Munx has a very painful bite.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 13:01:11
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 31 2008, 12:57 PM) [snapback]454416[/snapback]
Wouldn't know how to.... wink.gif

Cliff Richard's just off the 'phone-according to him 'Spurtle's an old Screw'.

Cliff has a way with words.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 13:03:54
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 12:45 PM) [snapback]454414[/snapback]
There is still learning needed.

The Royal School of Rossco is a fine establishment within the Inverclyde area.

Is that the one next to the Sheriff Court?
mortonjag 2008-05-31 13:11:55 Sir Merrick Burrell



'Take their clothes off'.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 13:14:22
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ May 31 2008, 01:11 PM) [snapback]454425[/snapback]
I might come along to watch, I've never seen a linen suited, cravat wearing goalkeeper before. smile.gif

He s*** hot with those brown leather brogues.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 13:48:17
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 01:42 PM) [snapback]454429[/snapback]
Beside Greenock High.

Is that where Spurtle hangs out?
mortonjag 2008-05-31 14:00:22
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 01:30 PM) [snapback]454427[/snapback]
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The sickness continues friend.

Haha, well I have a pet frog, I'm pretty sure Deego had a conversation with him when I was having a jaggy-jobby. He's a sound c***, but his choice of late Dvd infuriates me, what sort of f***ing frog would rather watch Star Wars, than Batman Begins?



It's funny that you should mention frogs. My partner has a soft toy frog called Sybil though he's male.

There's also Tchekey-the wee monkey, Kophee who's also a wee monkey but very placatory, and Sage the green monkey she got with the tea bags. They tend to form a sort of gang in one bedroom, while Animal (the ex Muppet), Flat Eric, Buggs (Bunny), and Ben the giraffe congregate in the other.

I would put a picture of Sybil on for your frog to see, but I can't make it work.

Anyway frogs and their choice of DVD's-I agree they can be a bit outlandish but I believe in letting my children develop at their own pace.

That brings me to toadstools which can vary from tiny specimens to some which are bigger than an actual toad-that is surely gross.

Anyway has your frog been stuffed?
mortonjag 2008-05-31 14:06:02
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ May 30 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]454248[/snapback]
i would like to point out that janne lindberg is an ethnic swede.

...as distinct from an organic carrot.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 14:17:17
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 02:09 PM) [snapback]454435[/snapback]
Stuffed like a thanksgiving turkey.

Yours?

Sorry for the delay-he's not really mine you see-my partner thinks he's still a virgin, but she's a trusting soul.

I wouldn't be so sure that he hasn't been jumping all over the place-especially with that 'butter wouldn't melt' look!
mortonjag 2008-05-31 16:24:41
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 02:47 PM) [snapback]454441[/snapback]
The 'just hopped off a c**k' look on it's face may suggest it's a female frog who has indeed been penetrated. A common factor with a lot of female frogs.


Well please be sure to call one of the tadpoles Shoogly.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 16:27:07
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ May 31 2008, 04:23 PM) [snapback]454453[/snapback]
f*** me, hottest day i can remember for a long time. huh.gif

Mr Pink?
mortonjag 2008-05-31 20:15:50
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ May 31 2008, 06:29 PM) [snapback]454507[/snapback]
Well I wonder how the batches would be made up?

Alphbetical? Well funnily enough we have the same surname!
Section of the stand? Again, we sit together

The only way I can think is that they have invited people in order of good looks and charm and yes, I would be before him in that!!

No sign of a renewal for the Mortonjag seats, and Mortonjag's name comes before Tonsilitis! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-31 20:20:27
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ May 31 2008, 05:38 PM) [snapback]454478[/snapback]
..I spotted a couple of porpoises in the Clyde - absolutely fab

Seemed to be enjoying themselves


It's great when you feel there's a porpoise to your life.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 20:42:00
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ May 31 2008, 05:19 PM) [snapback]454473[/snapback]
It's nothing like a chinky. that's like saying Dak is like a chinky too lol. Dak had never seen Chineses food until she arrived here and lets face it, the Chinkies here cater for Scottish people, not Chinese. We'll be making authentic Thai food in a full open plan kitchen where people can see and smell their food being prepared.

The prices for main meals are similar to what would be paid for other types of take-away. Example... Thai special curry which is thinly sliced beef,lamb, chicken, pork and king prawns in rich mild Thai red curry flavoured with coconut milk and lime leaves sells for only £5.50 in my sister-in-laws take-away.
I would be installing a professional Thai chef, Dak will also receive full training in Hartlepool and we have Thai friends in Greenock who would hopefully be able to help.



You completely missed the fact that that's EXACTLY what I meant. Thai restaurants are still thin on the ground even in Glasgow, and they do a roaring trade BECAUSE the food is so different from 'Ch*nky' food. They tend to be a wee bit on the pricey side but folk will always pay for quality and service. The most successful ones employ Thai girls as waitresses, and that in itself is a 'pull' because they add that wee bit of Eastern charm.

I was advising you to avoid the takeaway idea because 'fast food' is hugely competitive and you'll be perceived by a good sector of your potential market as just another 'Ch*nky carry out.

I know it's a bigger outlay, but the first genuine Thai restaurant in Inverclyde is a potential money spinner.

Good luck.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 20:48:56 I still believe that it's highly probable that they came back to find the child dead or dying as a result of some freak accident.

What happened thereafter seems to have been the focus of the Police attention from the word 'go'.

It makes me fume the way the British media have spun the story to portray the Portuguese Police as bumbling fools.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 21:05:43
QUOTE(tolmie perms r bak @ May 31 2008, 08:40 PM) [snapback]454566[/snapback]
i was reading the tele today and see a 16 year old local boy has signed for aberdeen what has happened to the morton scouting system? how many is there in this area that we have missed out on ? ok not every one will be a success,but give them a chance, this boy travels miles every week to play for aberdeen surely if we had a scouting system these players would rather sign for us as they would have a better chance of getting in to the first team , apart from this season as we wont even have a reserve team mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif



Low takes high road

INVERCLYDE football starlet Nicky Low is making his way towards top-flight football, having just signed professional forms with SPL club Aberdeen.

16-year-old Nicky, of Larkfield Road, Gourock, has been turning out for the Pittodrie club’s youth teams for six years, having signed from East End United at the age of 10 when he was spotted at a soccer sevens event.



No further comment required.

I won't even say a bad word about the club and its inexplicably arrogant attitude to those who dare to question its youth policy.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 21:16:02
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 09:14 PM) [snapback]454572[/snapback]
Maybe not, I think I read that off Pie and Bovril around the time it happened and like Largston said, he's got the reputation as a big-head.

I could be miles wrong though as it's not exactly the best source.

With a name like that, he's nothing to be big headed about.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 04:12:07
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jun 1 2008, 04:06 AM) [snapback]454675[/snapback]
I was up that way earlier.
Turns out what happens is that the helicopter that is always over the cemetery has decided that the centre circle at Cappielow is the best solution.

Maybe it's those parachutists practising for the unfurling of the Jamie Stevenson Memorial flag.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 04:36:53
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 31 2008, 09:23 PM) [snapback]454574[/snapback]
No they don't Trick, irrespective of their irresponsibility and culpability that's just an evil and vendictive thing to say.


God speaketh.


QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 31 2008, 09:28 PM) [snapback]454580[/snapback]
Yes, nobody is disputing that they were highly irresponsble and must share some of the blame for their daughter's disappearance. I'm sure they're only too aware of that themselves.

I'm not an apologist for the McCanns or what they did that night.

But I'm sorry, to say they deserve the pain and suffering their feeling is just an evil thing to say.


God repeateth himself


QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 31 2008, 09:40 PM) [snapback]454584[/snapback]
FFS Trick do you think we're all 2 years old on here. rolleyes.gif Of course if they were actaully involved in her death that that's a different matter completely. rolleyes.gif

However if, as seems most likely, their daughter was abducted then of course they must bear some responsibility for leaving her unattended, but you'd have to say that in losing their daughter they will have paid an extraordinarily high price for their crime.

So to say they deserve the pain and suffering they must be feeling for the loss of their child makes you either sick, evil or both.


God getteth irritated


QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 31 2008, 09:47 PM) [snapback]454591[/snapback]
Absolutely correct. If she's dead, and if it was because she was abducted, then they're BOTH an accessory before and during the fact.


Man stateth fact


QUOTE(Sanityclause @ May 31 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]454597[/snapback]
As a 'responsible' parent - i'm afraid that I have to agree with trick on this one - my sons have been on holiday twoce a year for all their lives with us and we have never ever left them alone in their rooms at night and left the establishment - ever.

What also irks me somewhat is the sad fact that because the McCanns are both professionals that they appear to be above the law - a couple in Glasgow were caught doing the same things the McCanns did i.e. abandon their kids for the night and go and eat, the father was given a 6 month sentence!! - someone explain that to me


Man again stateth fact


QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 31 2008, 10:01 PM) [snapback]454606[/snapback]
I'd like to think I'm also a responsible parent, and we certainly never have left our kids unattended when they were that age. We either ate in or took them with us. But I still find it hard to believe that you think they actually deserve the suffering their going through. They're paying a terrible, terrible price for their irresponsibility, and I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. In fact, I wouldn't even wish that on Trick. tongue.gif To say they deserve pain and suffering on top of losing their daughter is just evil and vendictive, sorry.

Re your second point, I totally agree. In fact I made the same point months ago and was accused of being a 'class warrier'. rolleyes.gif

The McCanns have certainly been treated differently by the police, media and social services in the UK than an unemployed single parent would have been if they had left their child unattended and a similar fate befell it. But surely that's more a reflection of the country as a whole than the McCanns themselves? Sure they're benefiting from a middle-class bias within the establishment, but they hardly created it, did they?


God appeareth to condescend


QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 31 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]454625[/snapback]
Actually the question was for Sanityclause.

We've already established you're an evil, vendictive, heidcase. rolleyes.gif


God admitteth defeat
mortonjag 2008-06-01 04:41:06
QUOTE(alexp @ Jun 1 2008, 04:31 AM) [snapback]454680[/snapback]
wouldn't be surprised wink.gif

Trouble is Alex we don't believe in air conditioning in this little country. I'm sitting here-it's 4.40 a.m.on a lovely morning except for the bloody humidity. I think I'll away for a wee run in the car just to cool off.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 04:45:37
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jun 1 2008, 04:17 AM) [snapback]454677[/snapback]
This is a joke.
Snodgrass is a Scotland international at his level, and was a stand out for our team at the u-20 World Cup. That said, Morton fans still think a half-decent wee boy from Celtic is a better player. Get over it folks - Snodgrass is a far superior player to anyone we have or have had for a while, apart from maybe the one guy we are trying to lose to Ayr.

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Very true but McGowan is a MUCH nicer name than SNODGRASS and Shoogly loves his wee Gowsa.

Anyway, Shoogly's skint as everybody knows, and Donkey Dave who's not Shoogly's spy will not confirm.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 04:51:04
QUOTE(alexp @ Jun 1 2008, 04:44 AM) [snapback]454683[/snapback]
good morning. you're up nice and early.

I have a barometer built into my brain-about four a.m. I always seem to sense when it's about to be a glorious day and I just can't lie in bed after that.

It's a good time to log on-most of the others need a beerometer if you ask me! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 05:07:43 ALEX SALMOND is bored. Last week he appeared to be going through the motions at first minister's question time, hardly bothering to bat away questions on the Scottish Futures Trust; brushing off Wendy Alexander's questions on class sizes as if it was rather beneath him to be there at all. Gosh, is it that time already? When's lunch?

Labour MSPs have developed an amusing repertoire of facial expressions to register outraged indignation at the first minister's lack of answers. It's like watching a Japanese Kabuki play with 46 characters. And Salmond positively basks in it. He makes a point of speaking directly at the baying mob with a posture that says: Come on, if you think you're hard enough.

Labour have a point, though, that Salmond doesn't answer the questions, (not that any political leader really does). The trouble is - and this may be the SNP's problem, too - that the first minister is very, very good at not answering questions. He is the virtuoso of political evasion.


How much will it cost to cut class sizes and when will it happen? "I refer Wendy Alexander to the clause of the historic concordat signed with Labour local authorities."

How will he pay for the Forth Bridge when he can't issue bonds? "At least this party, unlike the Liberal Democrats, took the decision to build a bridge."

Salmond only really came alive when he was expressing Scotland's "fury" over the cost of fuel when the nation is sitting on North Sea oil. Of course, this is deliberate. Giving downbeat answers to the questions you don't want to answer is one way of discouraging television producers from using them as clips. They will always tend to use the well-crafted and impassioned soundbite, and on the evening bulletins it was Salmond on the fuel crisis that got the airing rather than Salmond saying rather incomprehensible things about the Scottish Futures Trust.

Credit where it is due, though. Thursday was Wendy Alexander's best outing at question time, and she pressed home her point on the government's failure to give any indication about when class sizes will actually fall, how much they will fall by and how much the policy will cost. This won't do. Nor will the vagueness about local authority finance. However, I'm not sure this justifies last week's headlines announcing the SNP's year-long honeymoon with the Scottish voters had finally come to an end on "wobbly Wednesday".

The May opinion polls continue to show growing support for the SNP in UK elections and, according to the Scottish Centre for Social Research, increasing trust in the Scottish government, which is up 20%. The Scottish Parliament has apparently been transformed under Salmond into an institution that commands respect rather than ridicule, with 61% now saying it gives Scotland a stronger voice, compared with 43% in 2006. That should really worry the opposition parties.

Now, I'm not denying for a second there are serious problems with both the SNP's plans to replace public-private partnerships with collective municipal bond issues; or that attempts to raise local income tax centrally may be ultra vires. However, I'm not sure how many voters really care about the alphabet soup of public procurement or the abstruse argument about when a local tax becomes a national tax under the terms of the Scotland Act. Until we actually see schools and hospitals cancelled because the SNP's new Scottish Futures Trust fails to raise the money for them, then the debate about replacing the private finance initiative will be for public finance anoraks.

There may be constitutional problems ahead for local income tax which, under the SNP's current plan, is not local at all. But what the voters are noticing is that their council tax has not gone up this year, that tolls on bridges have gone and that local shops are staying in business because their rates have been reduced.

Of course, they are also noticing that their food and fuel is costing a lot more, but this is not something they seem minded to blame the SNP for. The nationalists believe they can simply hang the blame on Gordon Brown and his fuel duty increases. This ability of the SNP government to turn at will into an SNP opposition is understandably infuriating for the real opposition party in Scotland, Labour. Oppositions are supposed to complain when the economy goes bad, not the government of the day.

If the SNP were the real government of Scotland it would be Alex Salmond having to explain why world food prices are hitting consumers, why petrol is becoming a scarce resource and how the credit crunch is destroying the housing market. And he would have to give answers. But leading a devolved administration means never having to say you're sorry.

Indeed, London provides a get-out-of-jail-free card for the SNP on both the Scottish Futures Trust debacle, and the local income tax bourach.

After all, the essential problem with the SNP's plan to replace PFI with bond issues is that the Scottish executive, unlike local authorities, lacks the constitutional power to issue bonds. In suggesting that local authorities come together to issue collective bonds, Salmond is drawing attention to the Scottish Parliament's deficit in fiscal authority. The finance secretary, John Swinney, has cheekily invited Labour's Calman Commission to look at ways in which the parliament could get the necessary powers to seek an alternative to the discredited PFI.

Similarly with local income tax. There are many problems with the "nat tax", but it seems the least of them is the claim the Scottish executive lacks the powers to introduce it. The Scotland Act clearly assigns responsibility for local authority taxation to Holyrood. True, the Scottish Parliament does not have the power to raise taxes centrally. But this is a detail that can be finessed by adding an element of local discretion. If Westminster appears to be blocking the SNP's plans to scrap the council tax on a constitutional technicality, Alex Salmond will reap the propaganda advantage.

But there is a danger in complacency. Salmond's apparent boredom with these issues, and the casualness with which he dismisses questions, may store up problems for the future. If his ministers begin to take an equally casual attitude to issues of detail then real damage could be done. However, for the moment, and compared to the trouble Gordon Brown is experiencing, it's hard not to conclude that, even in his worst week, Salmond still has a lot to be complacent about.



From today's Sunday Herald.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 05:23:17
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 31 2008, 12:33 PM) [snapback]454406[/snapback]
We are getting side tracked on the real issues and that is the failure of the club to make the strides they should have .

I can take on what SD is saying but like all investors to the club there should be accountability from the club to the Trust in regards to the previous failures in the youth set up .

I know that this may put the Trust at odds with club hierachy but if the club continue to mismanage the potential in vital issues for the future then to simply just handover money in the good faith that they will eventually get things right damages the Trust .

I know I have asked the club questions about when the situation about returning the under 13/14/15 's to full development status . I would have thought it was a reasonable question which the club should have a timescale on future needed improvements . So I don't feel the Trust can be held accountable for the dismissive attitude of the club to its supporters .

I feel the Trust are caught in a rock and a had place asthings like the youth set up much as there probably is frustration about lack of real progress but ultimately would they get the backing from the general support if they decided to implement a protest at whatever level .


The club needs to take more account of supporters but that is not the responsibility of the Trust or MJ's Monkey and Fing Freedom Fighters it is up to every individual to speak out on the issues that concern them and if they don't get satisfaction then they need to look at the possibility of being more proactive to awaken the club that we have more power than just a rep who is or isin't there for supporters .



This appears to be the very nub of the matter Chris, and it's interesting that since Stuart posted his disclaimer, the thread has effectively dried up. Here's what he said-


We do not represent Morton fans, we never have. Jim McColl is not the fans representative on the board at Cappielow. Jim McColl is on the board to represents the second biggest shareholder at Cappielow, The Greenock Morton Supporters' Society Ltd, which in turn is owned by its members who happen to be Morton Supporters. The ones that is who are paid up members of the Supporters' Trust

I'm afraid I don't buy it! I've already said the Trust is full of good guys-in fact I'd not be remotely surprised if every single one of their hearts is in as right a place as Mr Rae's, but HERE is what they claim they want to do.





* To strengthen the bonds between Greenock Morton Football Club and the local community in Inverclyde and the surrounding area and to represent the interests of the local community in the running of Greenock Morton Football Club.



TO REPRESENT THE INTERESTS OF THE LOCAL COMMUNITY IN THE RUNNING OF GREENOCK MORTON FOOTBALL CLUB.


I'm maybe not the sharpest tool in the box, but if that doesn't mean 'to represent the fans at Board level' I'm really losing it.

.......and like it or not, Mr nice guy Jim McColl appears to have dismally failed in that respect.

I fully expect a backlash for daring to make that last comment-GOOD-it'll take the heat off Auld Shoogly for a bit. NOBODY can rightfully accuse that old duffer of not applying himself to the task in hand.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 05:48:26 Ah hoap ye get pished oot yer skull, start banging yer heid aff the wa' tae the rhythm o' yer neebors shaggin', 'n' knock some sense intae yersel.


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mortonjag 2008-06-01 10:33:32 It's great to see such competition for the inevitable third division spot.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 10:40:26
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 1 2008, 10:01 AM) [snapback]454714[/snapback]
Having see them both play many times I think McGowan is the better player and I certainly don't think Snodgrass is far superior. If Snodgrass was at Celtic he'd be in the reserves as well. Along with Paul McGowan and guys like Scott Cuthbert who is the Scotland Under-21 captain.

You tell people to 'get over it' with regards to McGowan then hark back to Jamie Stevenson. rolleyes.gif

It boils down to the final product IMO. Snodgrass has scored FAR more goals at first division level that Gowsa could manage lower down. Gowsa of course was not, is not, and never will be a striker. He has a MUCH nicer name than 'Cyril' Snodgrass.

QUOTE(Savo @ Jun 1 2008, 10:24 AM) [snapback]454717[/snapback]
It's been a regular theme since the end of the season.

Livingston's owner 'could not compete' with what Morton offered to Allan McManus.

We offered David Graham more than Hamilton did.

And Derek McInnes could not believe the size of the final offer made to Chris Millar.


And the Scapa turnstyles continue to rust in pieces.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 10:53:47
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jun 1 2008, 08:46 AM) [snapback]454701[/snapback]
chinky is a stupid word. and you're a tool.

Very possibly.


I was giving Dowsa what I believe to be excellent advice based on my experience in the retail market, and on many a discussion with my friend 'James' who runs an extremely successful 'Ch*nky' restaurant in Glasgow's West end.

....so successful, in fact, that his daughter Jenny and her husband have followed in his footsteps with a second 'Manchurian' in Aberdeen.

They are realistic business people, who don't think 'Ch*nky's a stupid word........not for all the tea in China.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 10:58:55
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 1 2008, 09:29 AM) [snapback]454705[/snapback]
Piping in it with kilt, socks, waistcoat and long sleeve shirt on is not recommended.
Nearly fecking passed out!!!

This one's specially for forza, Inverclyde's answer to the pebble.



Piping hot! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 11:01:12
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jun 1 2008, 08:55 AM) [snapback]454702[/snapback]
it's fantastic to see porpoises in the river smile.gif

as for basking sharks, i saw a monster about 10 years ago from mcinroy's point. from above u cant see the open mouth so they look like proper badass sharks. the one i seen was f***ing huge!!!! easily 5m long with a massive sinister fin. nothing better than seeing animals in the wild. brings things into a sharp perspective for me



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Try talking to the trees.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 11:04:10 Ah hoap ye get pished oot yer skull, start banging yer heid aff the wa' tae the rhythm o' yer neebors shaggin', 'n' knock some sense intae yersel.


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mortonjag 2008-06-01 11:12:27
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 1 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]454732[/snapback]
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In 2006/07 McGowan scored 11 league goals and 5 cup goals - 3 of which came against opposition from a higher league (2 v St. Johnstone, 1 v Kilmarnock).

In 2007/08 Snodgrass scored 10 goals. That's the only goals he's scored in the 1st division.

Don't get me wrong here though. I rate Snodgrass, I just prefer McGowan.



I hadn't even checked TBH!

As usual Mortonjag was being a wee bit knotty! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 11:14:49
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 1 2008, 11:13 AM) [snapback]454735[/snapback]
would that be your experience buying incontinence pants from the chemist at the end your street? or boring the arse off your local evening times vendor, maybe.



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mortonjag 2008-06-01 11:17:17
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 1 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]454730[/snapback]
my birthday's in november. what are youse on about?

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midTONs was not le chien manque
mortonjag 2008-06-01 11:28:53 There should be nothing whimsical about this decision. Gretna's admission to the SFL was madness and something MUST be learned from that experience.

Potential fan base is ultimately the limiting factor for any football club.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 11:30:50
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 1 2008, 11:28 AM) [snapback]454743[/snapback]
So ? blink.gif

EH? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 11:32:41
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 1 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]454741[/snapback]
I have always used that word but only as an abbreviation for Chinese food as I would with Chippy instead of chip shop smile.gif

Indeed LL-I think this is forza's 'bad week'!
mortonjag 2008-06-01 11:49:22
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jun 1 2008, 11:37 AM) [snapback]454748[/snapback]
Keeping an eye on things Dave rolleyes.gif

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDOther names Lord Hee-Haw
mortonjag 2008-06-01 12:03:30
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 1 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]454753[/snapback]
What? unsure.gif



"It frequently happens that applause abates diligence".

Mortonjag.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 12:18:29
QUOTE(cappielow-doc @ Jun 1 2008, 12:03 PM) [snapback]454755[/snapback]
Ghost

Sitting in an office twiddling your thumbs waiting on some wee ned to come in and say"ah want tae join the army cos theyll gie me a gun"does not in my book consist "a full days work" whether in Pishley or not.
Maybe see you on Saturday fella

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mortonjag 2008-06-01 12:20:51
QUOTE(cappielow-doc @ Jun 1 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]454760[/snapback]
I'll be 43 on that day,although my birthday is in March!!

Millen o.g.x3 tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 12:23:42
QUOTE(cappielow-doc @ Jun 1 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]454757[/snapback]
If old shooglie could afford £100,000 for Templeman and let him go for hee haw,a couple of quid for Snodgrass shouldnt be outwith the realms of possibility.


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mortonjag 2008-06-01 13:07:03
QUOTE(port-ton @ May 31 2008, 05:15 PM) [snapback]454469[/snapback]
im tempted, but then again ive been tempted before about the promises of hugeness before and been let down badly in the past, i dont think i could suffer the heartache anymore.

His hand fitted my arse like a mitt.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 13:42:29
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 1 2008, 01:39 PM) [snapback]454785[/snapback]
they are fitting them by october so they can be considered rolleyes.gif

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Not like Professor Piehole to spout before checking the facts!
mortonjag 2008-06-01 13:44:47
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 1 2008, 01:33 PM) [snapback]454781[/snapback]
No cause for concern unless helicopters are seen over the cemetery.

Have they been breeding?
mortonjag 2008-06-01 13:52:17
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 1 2008, 01:43 PM) [snapback]454789[/snapback]
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Have I missed something here?

Since when did Bawheid become Alex Salmond?

And where is Bawheid nowadays anyway??

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In answer to your last question, he was on briefly a month or so back, but said he was still busy finishing his house and 'large' garden.


'Bawheid' is a name I use for Mr Salmond.

As I explained recently-'Halloween Lantern Heid' is pictorially more accurate, but is rather wordy. In no way is my use of the term meant to be derogatory to our own Bawheid, though I accept there is that distinct danger.

Mr Bam prefers 'Baw Jaws'.


Spurtle the Screw hasn't really commented.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 13:58:10
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 1 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]454794[/snapback]
Yes. Yes they have.

Bloody hell-talk about getting an inch and taking a mile. Next they'll be upsides Shoogly in the Rotary Club.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 14:05:32
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jun 1 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]454796[/snapback]
There seems to be a never ending deluge of posts from Mortonjag most of which are of a sarcastic, patronising, self promoting, condescending, egotistical in the extreme, spiteful nature but who when questioned will come back with 'you don't recogise my tongue in cheek comments.' I could go on but I think you get my assessment of the the man in question, you know the type more quantity than quality (nearly 20,000 a the last look) but in all honesty it is all your own fault that you have to suffer his constant (and I mean constant) postings.
Set yourselves free, make life and this site a nicer place to visit, put him on your "Block List."
I shall be eternally grateful to Largton for pointing me in the right (no doubt MJ will post that it should be correct) direction.
Viva la libertad!

Correct apart from the 'spiteful' -I'd never be 'spiteful' to a poor dumb creature-the Monkey would never forgive me.

P.S. Fing's just asked for your address, and pointed out you won't be able to read this anyway.

Fing hasn't quite grasped the fact that yourself, the said Donkey, and a few other remaining Shooglyplile creeps wouldn't DARE to publish your identities on this forum. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 14:12:32
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 1 2008, 01:44 PM) [snapback]454790[/snapback]
Well observed. After all, you are the master at doing that MJ wink.gif laugh.gif

I am the master of everything sonny boy. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 14:16:27
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 1 2008, 02:02 PM) [snapback]454799[/snapback]
Whenever I see the word 'Bawheid' on this messageboard, I immediately associate it with 'Bawheid' who, along with the his family, are some of the all-time good guys from this messageboard and its predecessors.

Would you prefer me to call Mr Salmond 'Swede Heid'?
mortonjag 2008-06-01 14:18:50
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 1 2008, 02:08 PM) [snapback]454803[/snapback]
I do indeed, I read as much as I can from all political opinions.

Do you think that will eventually broaden your mind?
mortonjag 2008-06-01 14:20:24
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 1 2008, 01:37 PM) [snapback]454784[/snapback]
MJ, are you on the drink?

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Strong tea! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 14:29:08
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 1 2008, 02:21 PM) [snapback]454809[/snapback]
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Aye, and you're certainly a fine example of tolerance and enlightenment. rolleyes.gif

That is true, ----and experience, and wisdom, and bonhomie, and good looks-wish I'd never started-the list of my qualities is endless, and STILL people snipe at me.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 14:40:28
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 1 2008, 02:31 PM) [snapback]454813[/snapback]
Ah that kinda tea ohmy.gif



I just checked Sean-it's Tetley extra strong and I always put two tea bags in the mug and leave it to infuse for about ten minutes.

I filter my water sleep.gif (Brita filters are arguably the best) and activate it using the (MRET) technique patented by Dr Smirnov.

The Monkey thinks I use PG Tips, and I've no intention of upsetting him.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 14:48:41
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 1 2008, 02:36 PM) [snapback]454815[/snapback]
Self-praise is no recommendation.

Anyway, back on topic. rolleyes.gif

It's ironic that one of the MPs calling for the 'Scots purge' is Kieth Vaz... who if I'm not mistaken is both Asian and an outspoken critic of racism. I wonder how he'd react if Scots MPs were calling for an 'Asian purge'.

Excuse moi-I was merely stating fact!

BTW I can't be bothered reading the article-like almost every other of its ilk it's selling papers on the back of rampant teuchter brain paranoia.

Oh-and see thae Asians.......
mortonjag 2008-06-01 14:52:44
QUOTE(big B @ Jun 1 2008, 02:33 PM) [snapback]454814[/snapback]
I can exclusivley reveal Pat Gillan murdered Cappie The Cat hoping that The Dinosaur would make a comeback next season. He will be appearing at court tomorrow dressed in his said Dinosaur attire.

You've been talking to the physiotherapist-admit it.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 14:56:02
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 1 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]454821[/snapback]
Well f*** off then and stop trying to hijack the thread.

Oh dear-you're getting tetchy again-one misplaced word and you'll be accusing me of personal abuse! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 14:57:42
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 1 2008, 02:47 PM) [snapback]454819[/snapback]
The unionists are under the misapprehension that this union is one of equals. It's never been a union of equals since it's inception.

Unionists for some reason cannot see this. They seem to think that we are all "british" brothers and sisters, when we all know that's complete bunkum (great word laugh.gif )

I'm going to have the biggest laugh of my life when I see all those unionist MP's coming back over the border after they are told "It's over " laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I hope you read the article Spurtle! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 15:01:09
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 1 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]454822[/snapback]
He should be called First Minister or Mr Salmond. Do you have no manners ?

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There's a time and place for manners Spurtle, and it certainly ain't here and now-well not unless you and every other poster addresses me as Your Excellence, Dr Mortonjag. cool.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 15:12:10
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 31 2008, 09:26 PM) [snapback]454578[/snapback]
Is that the same as just not acknowledging my e-mails
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Good God Chrissiboi-that must be at least a fortnight since you wrote to 'the club'.

I'd double check that it definitely arrived-maybe Donkey Dave could ask. On second thoughts he says he's NOT Shoogly's spy.

It's quite distressing-every time 'the club' has been criticised, the smart arses have come on the forum with 'there's no point in moaning here-WRITE TO 'THE CLUB'.

Seems there's no point in writing to 'the club' though-well NOT if you expect him it to address anything which makes him it uncomfortable.

Maybe you could ask the Trust to pursue it on your behalf.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 15:18:56
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 1 2008, 03:01 PM) [snapback]454828[/snapback]
MJ, if you've got anything to contribute to the thread I'd be genuinely interested to hear it.

But if you're just going to type your usual pish, please f*** off.

I take that as personal abuse my vertically challenged friend-I did not 'type pish'-au contraire, I chose to deliberately ignore the clearly provocative article, while commenting that I believe it is selling papers on the back of nationalist paranoia.


GROW UP! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 15:28:51
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 1 2008, 03:02 PM) [snapback]454829[/snapback]
Nope bunkum is merely a so-so word.
Tatterdemallion, now that's a goodie

Misanthrope is Okay Dokay

Latitudinarian is a stonker.

A cornucopia of discombobulation is this forum Mr. Bam.

Do you enjoy this BTW-obviously I can't put the music on here -well I COULD if I was clever with things like that-I find it very restful.




Nymphs and Shepherds

Nymphs and shepherds, come away.
In the groves let's sport and play,
For this is Flora's holiday,
Sacred to ease and happy love,
To dancing, to music and to poetry;
Your flocks may now securely rove
Whilst you express your jollity.
Nymphs and shepherds, come away
mortonjag 2008-06-01 15:48:39
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 1 2008, 03:29 PM) [snapback]454833[/snapback]
The report me to the mods and f*** off.

The article's from the Sunday Times - hardly likely to have been written to pander to 'nationalist paranoia'.

Unless of course you meant English nationalist paranoia.

Oh I don't know-the broadsheets-is it still a broadsheet BTW, are not averse to the odd 'one off' article in an attempt to widen the readership.

Now-to your first comment-I have never, and probably will never report a fellow poster to the Mods.

I was simply using in minute measure, your ad nauseam Modus Operandi ---ACCUSATION.

Lighten up, and stop being so f*cking precious about your precious little thread. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 15:58:36
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 1 2008, 03:35 PM) [snapback]454834[/snapback]
Ah, I thought you meant 'strong tea'.

Had visions of you out picking fresh mushrooms from the fields and boiling them up blink.gif



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The magic mushrooms eh! That brings back some funny memories.

On a more serious note, my Granny used to pick 'sourocks' up the Whin Hill. Thy were tender docken leaves, and were used in salads. She also made nettle soup.

Eating in those days was a necessity!
mortonjag 2008-06-01 16:12:40
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 1 2008, 03:55 PM) [snapback]454838[/snapback]
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PMSL @ mortonjag. This guy's a f***ing hoot.

He doesnt want to contribute to the debate, but he wants to get involved in it anyway.

Just confirms my thoughts that this messageboard is no longer about Morton FC, rather than one about a self obsessed retired doctor doing the One-Foot-In-The-Grave routine.

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My contribution to the debate:

Scottish people are predominantly white indigenous Britons therefore it is considered politically correct to discriminate against them. If some of the Scots who were in the cabinet were of Asian origin, then Mr Vaz wouldn't be so keen to discriminate against them for being Scottish.

Keith Vaz is nothing but a Brownfaced Racist, keen to hide behind the CRE when it suits him and keen to decry others as racists when he is capable of dishing out as much himself, as his recent comments have proven.
**quick edit for typo.



That's probably a good summation of 75% of posters at any given time, so you'd be better off with an indwelling catheter young man. You appear to be yet another of the arrogant 'Donga' type young bucks who demands freedom of expression for all except those who upset you!

Perhaps you could join him in another campaign to ban the 'Jag'. Alternatively you could 'live and let live'.

My 'contribution to the debate' was to question the real purpose of the article, while commenting that it was 'pandering to paranoia'.

Nothing stated by others including your goodself-persuades me that I am mistaken.

Sorry to spoil your paranoia party!


mortonjag 2008-06-01 20:04:06
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 1 2008, 07:36 PM) [snapback]454926[/snapback]
Because this is important.

And if your read the article your opinion would not be uninformed.



Because some apparently jumped up little ex pat has DECIDED it's important-an apparenty jumped up little ex pat, who UNLIKE Mortonjag actually believes he is more important than the common 5/8ths.

'Please Miss', you squeak, like a little stuck pig, 'nasty Mortonjag's hi-jacking MY threads again'!

I'll tell you what's important to me-freedom of expression, and freedom of choice.

If I don't like something I attempt to make my point-I certainly never complain about the other person's right to make his-it's to do with mutual respect-that and INDEPENDENCE. If all else fails I may choose to leave the debate.

Sometimes you bore the life out of me with your pig headed determination to keep going when you've long since lost an argument-a pathological obstinacy which often sees you resort ultimately to attempts to ridicule your fellow posters, or simply to bully them into silence with big empty words.

Mortonjag, on the other hand, does not lose arguments.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 20:14:24
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 1 2008, 04:39 PM) [snapback]454863[/snapback]
Magic mushies, am sure the Council wiped em out in the 90's with some sort of spray.

Never heard of 'sourocks', but I mind my Granny talking about nettle soup.

Even more disgusting was my old man boiling 'clams' down Lunderston Bay.

We went on holiday to Islay when I was about four. We were in a wee rented cottage on Loch Gruinart-no running water, and of course a peat fire. Room and kitchen-Mum Dad, and four weans. I always remember my Dad picking c***les and cooking them over the fire in a bucket. I don't remember enjoying them much, but we definitely ate them!


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mortonjag 2008-06-01 20:19:59
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 1 2008, 07:10 PM) [snapback]454906[/snapback]
I think that's the bit you should be highlighting.

Salmond's problem is that it's no fun having a battle of wits with unarmed opponents.

That's what the article said.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 20:26:08
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 1 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]454910[/snapback]
I'd say I'm argumentative so fair enough. I always try to say something of note, and certainly don't think I could ever be accused of spamming.

But can't see how it can be anyone other than moronjag. This guy just ruins every thread he touches. Had him on ignore for months now but the sheer level of posts and then other people quoting him etc just does my nut in.

Deego contributes a fair amount, but noticed of late the number of non-threads he's started and p1sh that has emminated from his keyboard.

You're a good lad at heart! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 20:29:47
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 1 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]454950[/snapback]
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You admitted you can't be bothered to even read the article, but yet you decided you knew it was a ploy to pander to the 'nationalist'. Hardly an insightful contribution.

MJ, you are a thoroughly unpleasant individual who's singlehandedly ruined almost every thread on here with your egotistical and inane pish.

Can I ask you one more time, PLEASE f*** OFF.

I could swear we've never met! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 20:49:09
QUOTE(Trust Member @ Jun 1 2008, 06:36 PM) [snapback]454895[/snapback]
Since Stuart hasn't yet corrected you yet, let me. The Trust has never claimed that Jim McColl is "[b]the fans representative" on the Board. [/b]This phrase was used by some people (not the Trust) early on when the Trust first had a rep on the board however this led to protests to the Trust by some supporters clubs and other fans that since they were not members of the Trust the Trust should not claim to represent them. The Trust agreed and has avoided ever using this phrase. If you had come to the last Q&A you would have heard him introduced as always as "The Trust's representative on the board" and at Trust meetings as "our representative".
The Trust like most democratic organisations can only ever speak on behalf of its own members.
It does represent Morton fans on the board, but only those who have paid the ten pounds annual membership.

Neither the Trust nor Golden Casket nor any other organisation has a right to have a director on the board. Any shareholder can propose a motion at the AGM to have a person appointed as a director and if it is approved they are appointed for, I think, 3 or 4 years when they must stand down and can be put forward for re-election.
Its up to the Trust as a shareholder who it puts forward.
Its up to the shareholders at the AGM (in effect up to GC as the majority shareholder) whether they are appointed.



QUOTE(Trust Member @ Jun 1 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]454904[/snapback]
Memories are short.
The Trust was set up when Morton was in crisis. It took an enormous amount of work from the supporters clubs and others in the Save the Ton group, Stuart Duncan getting the Trust established, and Jim McColl representing the Trust in the negotiations with administrators, lawyers, the Scott family and the businessmen who expressed interest in buying in to Morton (none of whom stayed the course) to save the club.
The community raised massive amounts of money to keep the club going (for which it received not a single share in return) so most of the hard work was done before Douglas Rae put in the money to buy out Scott.
To avoid the supporters and the community being caught cold like they were here, many Trusts including Morton's felt it was essential to get someone in the inside who could watch everything that was happening and be in a position to understand how the club was run, feed this back and if it was ever neccessary blow the whistle if it looked like anything was happening that might endanger the future of the club. This was the start of the push across the UK and now Europe for Trusts and Trust reps on the boards of clubs.
It seems to me that is the key function of the Trust rep.


You may think you have 'corrected me'.

I frankly find it pathetic, but unsurprising, that the minute the Trust comes under the spotlight and legitimate criticisms are made, folk like yourself are knee jerking in defence.

I quoted from the aims of the Trust-NOT paraphrased-cut and pasted, and commented that in my opinion the Trust DOES portray itself as the fans' representative.


TO REPRESENT THE INTERESTS OF THE LOCAL COMMUNITY IN THE RUNNING OF GREENOCK MORTON FOOTBALL CLUB.

I believe it's totally reasonable to suggest that members of the local community who have an interest in Greenock Morton can be described as the 'fans'.

I also believe that the Trust, at this juncture, will gain far more respect by admitting it has failed in the said aims, instead of attempting to bluster its way out of its understandable problems with 'the club'.



mortonjag 2008-06-01 20:54:42
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jun 1 2008, 07:36 PM) [snapback]454925[/snapback]
It's fair to say that Mortonjag is the online poor man's Scotty McClue. He's always right and denies an ything he's said when it's brought back and puts a positive spin on evefything. A total windup mearchant if ever there was one.

Don't you believe in spies Ratarse? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 20:57:36
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 1 2008, 06:35 PM) [snapback]454894[/snapback]
Nah - very much quality over quantity. Been pretty quiet of late due to the high level of complete sh1te that people shove on here.

Mortonjag has made this board a real struggle to read, but Deego has been creeping up with a good level of total bollocks.



Mortonjag and Deego have a sense of humour Piehole. I guess you know we are lovers.

Jealousy is a horrible trait.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 21:02:07
QUOTE(El gofer @ Jun 1 2008, 08:29 PM) [snapback]454961[/snapback]
Fortunately academic attitude and ability dont come into the equation with the vast majority of footballers.
Nicky has always shown commitment to his football. He also reads a game very well which I know from standing at the side of a park with him during games.


Are you a qualified reader of football Sir? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 21:05:47
QUOTE(Trust Member @ Jun 1 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]454976[/snapback]
I agree that the Trust could improve in many ways, in particular it could communicate better with its members and potential members about what it is doing. It tends to be reactive waiting for its members to raise things and it should be more proactive, but as Stuart said he and a number of others have been involved for years and need a rest. They need fresh blood and fresh ideas.
None of that detracts from the need to keep their eyes open, eternal vigilance etc. When you have a dictator in charge, no matter how benevolent, with a vast majority of the shares, you are only ever a family crisis, or a business downturn away from disaster. Witness Gretna.
As for the dictators rants, isn't he just a Morton supporter doing what everybody on here does, expressing his opinion, except he has the programme to exercise his freedom of speech in.
I think he made himself and the club look stupid, but as a believer in freedom of speech I think he has the right to express his personal opinion.
He did (almost) apologise which might (almost) be a first.
Wonder why?

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Euphemism of the decade!
mortonjag 2008-06-01 21:17:31
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 1 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]454979[/snapback]
Interesting post. I waited for 5 hours to see if any of our Nat friends would spot a racist post.
Shame on them, they did not. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
Vaz may or may not be a racist, what the fukk does the colour of his skin have to do with anything? sad.gif

See SNP , see racism. dry.gif

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I suspect you are just about to be accused of co hi-jacking the most important thread ever started on this humble rag.

I can't be arsed reading the article, but it does occur to me that those who appear to have made unbearably hurtful and inaccurate comments about the ability of certain Scots, are entitled to voice their opinion.

There again, it may be that they should be told to f*ck off.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 08:10:29
QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Jun 2 2008, 12:14 AM) [snapback]455092[/snapback]
BLOODY HELL-you make Shoogly sound brief!

I’m just warming up, but I’ll try and keep my replies as brief as possible.

Correct me if I'm wrong Stuart. For years the Trust has quite happily sailed along in the full knowledge that Jim McColl was perceived as 'the fans' representative on the Board'- a phrase quoted time after time after time.
We have never said we represent all Morton fans. Others have but we have consistently said that we do not. Why would we, there are other fans groups out there who are more than capable of speaking up for themselves

Now you are saying that he's on the Board in some sort of statutory capacity to represent the second biggest shareholder. The trust is constantly pleading for more investment from fans, but it's blatantly obvious that nobody is currently going to invest in GMFC with a snowballs' chance in hell of making a quick return. It seems perfectly clear to me that the real function of the trust should be to offer some balance of opinion at Boardroom level, and that the raison d'etre of a 'Jim McColl' is to voice 'the opinion' of those fans he represents-it's clearly not to debate the finer points of high finance!
The Supporters’ Trust is not out to make a quick return far from we will be the last man standing. They will all come and go but we are here for the duration.


I am confused as to Jim's position-some say the Trust is not entitled to have a representative on the Board-is that correct?
That is correct, technically the same as every other board member.

Anyway-back to the main issue-you can go on till you are blue in the face about the Trust being 'a group of investors', but facts are chiels that winna ding, and the fact is that the Trust is SEEN as the fans' voice in the Boardroom.
The Trust is not a group of investors it is a investor.
All shares the Trust purchases are owned by the Greenock Morton Supporters’
Society Ltd which in turn is owned by its members, not all of whom are Morton fans
One very good reason for us not being the Morton fans representative on the board.


Not only that, but it is clearly seen as the embodiment of everything that's good and loyal about being a Morton fan, and now you are telling us that its rep on the Board is NOT THERE TO REPRESENT THE FANS.
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot!

Wonderful, it may be so but we cannot profess to be something we are not. We have members, shareholders to be precise, in The Greenock Morton Supporters’ Society Ltd. Legally we represent them not every Morton supporter, I wish we did to be honest.

This appears to be the very nub of the matter Chris, and it's interesting that since Stuart posted his disclaimer, the thread has effectively dried up. Here's what he said-
We do not represent Morton fans, we never have. Jim McColl is not the fans representative on the board at Cappielow. Jim McColl is on the board to represents the second biggest shareholder at Cappielow, The Greenock Morton Supporters' Society Ltd, which in turn is owned by its members who happen to be Morton Supporters. The ones that is who are paid up members of the Supporters' Trust

I'm afraid I don't buy it! I've already said the Trust is full of good guys-in fact I'd not be remotely surprised if every single one of their hearts is in as right a place as Mr Rae's, but HERE is what they claim they want to do.

* To strengthen the bonds between Greenock Morton Football Club and the local community in Inverclyde and the surrounding area and to represent the interests of the local community in the running of Greenock Morton Football Club.
TO REPRESENT THE INTERESTS OF THE LOCAL COMMUNITY IN THE RUNNING OF GREENOCK MORTON FOOTBALL CLUB.
I'm maybe not the sharpest tool in the box, but if that doesn't mean 'to represent the fans at Board level' I'm really losing it.

Your losing it! The local community is far bigger than Morton fans. As I said above we have members (shareholders) who are not Morton fans but part of the Inverclyde community. We may not have at present but there is nothing to stop companies joining the Supporters' Trust.
And I know some people don’t like to mention the bad old days but we would much rather be on the inside looking out than on the outside looking in.


.......and like it or not, Mr nice guy Jim McColl appears to have dismally failed in that respect.

That’s a personal opinion I happen to disagree with.

I fully expect a backlash for daring to make that last comment-GOOD-it'll take the heat off Auld Shoogly for a bit. NOBODY can rightfully accuse that old duffer of not applying himself to the task in hand.
Sorry Stuart but surely that's a bit of a contradictory statement. If the Trust is not about the supporters then why call it the supporter's trust? I used to be a member, not a loan note holder - just a member but I feel my reasons not to rejoin have been well vindicated in a number of instances most recently with the lack of protestation at Dougie's "we hate the fans" outbursts. Whether or not the trust represents the fans, its silence as the club's second largest shareholder over the alienation of the club's paying customers was deafening. Perhaps it is ignorance on my part but I can't see any benefits of the trust member on the board. Whilst I cannot disagree that the trust have done a lot of good, there are a lot of areas where I feel they should be challenging the club (merchandising, Rae's rants, etc). And for your information:
No it's not a case of short memories and perhaps exemplifies why I don't bother with the trust when all we hear is about Save the Ton, *careful, or I'll close down the Internet*, etc, etc, etc. Hard times indeed but the club and the support has moved on and there are issues that as the second biggest shareholder I feel the trust should at least be questioning but it appears they don't. It's time to move forward. The benefits I talk of are in recent times. I gave a good example in my post which was conveniently ignored. On a day to day basis, it would be good to know how concerns have been raised at Morton FC board level and how Morton have benefited from having a trust member on the board. This is not a go at the actual member who sits on the board as I think the same could be said regardless and is more of a reflection on the Trust as an organisation. I think some people would wish Save the Ton was still on the go so they had something to do.

If I was a shareholder in an organisation that wasn’t living up to my expectations I would consider three possible actions.

1. I would leave that organisation and forever hold my peace, or;
2. I would continue my membership and turn up at the AGM and question the board of that organisation and ask them why they didn’t do what I expected, or;
3. If I really felt strongly about the organisation I would make an effort to change it so that it reflected my views and concerns properly.


Stuart let me ask you a question as a supporter .

Do you think our youth set up has improved our has been a success when you consider the large donations made by the Trust and others ?

Speaking as a supporter I think the club has lacked a long term strategy for youth since the McGraw days. I believe that part of the reason for that has been the number of managers we have gone through all of whom have had a different idea on what the youth set up should look like. Clear direction and some stability is what’s needed.
It isin't to have a go , just to get an idea of your personal thought

You may think you have 'corrected me'.

I frankly find it pathetic, but unsurprising, that the minute the Trust comes under the spotlight and legitimate criticisms are made, folk like yourself are knee jerking in defence.

I quoted from the aims of the Trust-NOT paraphrased-cut and pasted, and commented that in my opinion the Trust DOES portray itself as the fans' representative.

No it does not and it never has for all the reasons already mentioned. We say it at every opportunity, hopefully this time the message will get across.

TO REPRESENT THE INTERESTS OF THE LOCAL COMMUNITY IN THE RUNNING OF GREENOCK MORTON FOOTBALL CLUB.

I believe it's totally reasonable to suggest that members of the local community who have an interest in Greenock Morton can be described as the 'fans'.

Actually no, we have at least one Rangers fan and many others who are not Morton supporters but are members (shareholders) in the Trust.

I also believe that the Trust, at this juncture, will gain far more respect by admitting it has failed in the said aims, instead of attempting to bluster its way out of its understandable problems with 'the club'.

Not bluster, we have been consistent in our approach since the day we were registered with the FSA. We are a democratic organisation based on one member/shareholder (not one fan) one vote. The Supporters Trust as an organisation have actually been treated the same as any other shareholder. We are just fortunate that we have been allowed, yes allowed, to have a Trust Board member on the Board at Cappielow and I hope that will continue for a long time to come.From small acorns!

Now can I go to my bed


Brevity is indeed the soul of wit! smile.gif


As I stated earlier, it IS utterly pathetic to see the knee jerking defensivenesss of folk who haven't really been attacked!

That sort of reaction always rings alarm bells in my head.

You've gone to uncanny lengths to argue the general from the particular, and your 'get out' is always the same-the Trust doesn't need to/isn't supposed to/ shouldn't have to/ doesn't want to represent the fans at Board level.

The trust has ALWAYS been perceived by the majority of Morton supporters as 'representing the fans, and similary, Jim McColl has always been seen as 'the fans' representative on the Board.

That he and Auld Shoogly share few confidences is evidenced by the former having to ask 'who is Mortonjag'? laugh.gif


Do you think it would be a good idea to close down the Trust in its present form? I ask as a mere fan with no invested interest. After all, the Trust is 'not a group of fans'-indeed it's 'not even a group of shareholders', it is 'A SHAREHOLDER'.

An inanimate shareholder can't possibly identify or empathise with real live fans-I can't argue there.

What about the hundreds of Trust members who disagree with that Stuart?

Did you consider their opinions, and their undying efforts to support 'the club' by raising money to fund projects 'the club' should really be funding himself, before you got wellied into your bed time story?

As I said before, FACTS ARE CHIELS THAT WINNA DING.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 08:27:50
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jun 1 2008, 09:11 PM) [snapback]454981[/snapback]
But MJ says DDF is skint - and he knows things us mere mortals do not. laugh.gif laugh.gif


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QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 1 2008, 11:12 PM) [snapback]455069[/snapback]
Aye? And you know everything, spunk arse?

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mortonjag 2008-06-02 08:38:29
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 1 2008, 10:35 PM) [snapback]455041[/snapback]
I could accept that if they release a statement on what they intend to do in the medium term afterall I bet there is more than myself who would take an interest in whatever the club intend to do in the future .

Since I asked a pertinent qestion on the issue at the Q+A I would have thought I would have got at least a reply saying futures statements would be posted on GMFC.net sad.gif



Maybe you'll still get an answer-I understand they are presently writing individual longhand letters to every season ticket holder except Mortonjag. That takes time even for the deftest of amanuenses.

If somebody offered 'the club' a tremendous deal to take the drudgery out of life's little stationery tasks-which might save-say £10,000 p.a., I imagine 'the club' would grab the opportunity with both hands. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 08:41:05
QUOTE(dazed @ Jun 2 2008, 06:51 AM) [snapback]455108[/snapback]
Reported in the rags today that clyde striker Gary Arbuckle is on DI'S radar and may sign for the Ton.
11 goals last season and was top scorer for Clyde. Thoughts?

Winger, full back, and goalie! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 08:51:44
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 1 2008, 10:08 PM) [snapback]455014[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif

I told you, you're a f***ing hoot.

I'm not going to join any campaign to have you banned, i think youre good amusement value.

Also, this 'young buck' laugh.gif knows you're just on the wind up when you hijack every thread on this messageboard with your self-indulgent waffle, you're just a bit smarter than all other wind-up merchants thats went before you.

I'm not paranoid about anything, apart from New Labour. They're gonna kill us all one day, and you are the assasin in waiting. laugh.gif
laugh.gif laugh.gif

Hilarious.
A cracker becomes a Cracker.

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mortonjag 2008-06-02 09:04:55
QUOTE(Morton_T.I.D @ Jun 2 2008, 01:40 AM) [snapback]455105[/snapback]
deego biggrin.gif a reckon hes still gay from when he was in school.

sexuality's usually a lifetime thing!
mortonjag 2008-06-02 09:08:43
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ Jun 2 2008, 05:12 AM) [snapback]455107[/snapback]
Ah, but what about the guy ejected from the public swimming baths because the capital S had fallen off the logo on his Speedos ohmy.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-02 09:10:26
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 1 2008, 09:46 PM) [snapback]455004[/snapback]
Nice to see that the natives are starting to show tolerance in South Lanarkshire.

Whatever next?

Orangemen giving their children Celtic shirts in deepest Larkhall??

Parents in Carfin sending their weans to 'Flute Practice'??



Croy!
mortonjag 2008-06-02 09:22:02
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 2 2008, 09:14 AM) [snapback]455126[/snapback]
Personally I'd make it an offence to wear any OF strip. Anywhere.

It might confuse the refs.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 09:52:05 Right-I think I now have a true grasp of the Trust's function. It's all to do with shares and high finance, and stuff-not, as I had believed, anything remotely connected with the fan in the street.

Fair enough.

Now, gentlemen of the Trust Committee, before you get too immersed in your copies of the FT, here's ONE question you CAN undoubtedly answer.

What's the score with Alistair Donald?

I'd surmise that Jim McColl, (whose sole function on the Board is apparently to oversee the interests of the second biggest shareholder) MUST be privy to Mr Donald's plans (or lack of them).

It's not that I feel the ordinary fans are entitled to know anything. The paying customer is clearly secondary to those anonymous and wealthy investors who are only in it for the dividends, giving not a fig it seems, for the club.

Indeed only Shoogly's benevolence, and naughty old cupiditas appear to be driving Greenock Morton on to such dizzy heights.

So, gentlemen, what's the script?
mortonjag 2008-06-02 09:59:52
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jun 2 2008, 09:53 AM) [snapback]455142[/snapback]
a guy in my class all the way through school called Michael Paton plays for aberdeen. he signed for them when he was about 12/13 i think. hes 19 now and he was on loan at brechin last season, scored a couple of goals with them aswell biggrin.gif

Seems Shoogly's being sold short by sheep shagging shysters.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 10:02:09
QUOTE(Trust Member @ Jun 2 2008, 09:59 AM) [snapback]455145[/snapback]
It does to me.
Didn't expect to see you back just yet.
Not sure what you are doing will work.
Good Luck.



p.m. for this pish! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 10:10:17
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jun 2 2008, 09:43 AM) [snapback]455135[/snapback]
A guy went into the army surplus store and said ''do you have any camouflage jackets'' ? and the owner said ''yes but I can't find them''



The trouble with places like that is that there is absolutely no stock organisation.

Many of the Asian cash and Carry Warehouses in Tradeston have a similar problem, though they appear to make quite a lot of money.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 10:14:26
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 1 2008, 10:49 PM) [snapback]455056[/snapback]
Doesn't matter if it's the real stone. It's a symbol.

The World Cup is not the real World Cup as the original is missing, believed destroyed, but the World Cup as a tournament does not become devalued.



I think Celtic will probably win the Stone of Destiny next time though many claim they're Irish.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 10:19:46
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jun 2 2008, 10:14 AM) [snapback]455150[/snapback]
I would be horrified if we signed Gary Arbuckle.

Has he been released or would he cost money AND wages.

The 'small squad of quality players' story is beginning to sound reminiscent of previous closed season spins.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 10:39:21
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jun 2 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]455156[/snapback]
He was released by a side which finished below us huh.gif

This better just be paper talk.



Digressing, does Allan McManus' contract with St Johnstone end this week?
mortonjag 2008-06-02 10:52:00
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Jun 2 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]455164[/snapback]
This has to be a wind-up. Seems very fast but thats all, a truely horrific player.

Clyde fans were delighted when he was released. This would worry me.

What does Kermit think?
mortonjag 2008-06-02 11:04:16
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 2 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]455172[/snapback]
Go to the next Q and A and ask wink.gif

Will Alistair Donald be chairing it?
mortonjag 2008-06-02 11:07:04
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 2 2008, 10:56 AM) [snapback]455169[/snapback]
Are you serious? blink.gif
You can't honestly think of this forum as being overly positive, can you?




WAKEY WAKEY
mortonjag 2008-06-02 11:13:51
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 2 2008, 11:00 AM) [snapback]455171[/snapback]
Davie I was delighted when Irons took over and was impressed with the difference he made to the team in the short time he had to save us from the play-offs but I must admit I'm rather worried with his signings so far (bar 1) and those he has us linked with.



I didn't want to be first to come out with that Jim. DI/DC got Rae off the hook, with things coming good just in time. They've obviously got it in the motivational department, and I'm not disappointed that we've got a goalie, and (possibly) an experienced defender. Other than that it's glaringly obvious that Shoogly's skint.

How long will it be before we get a repeat of last years-'The club won't be bullied into signings'.

That was indeed prophetic!!! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 11:24:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 2 2008, 11:17 AM) [snapback]455178[/snapback]
Only one way to find out tongue.gif

PRECISELY-that was the reason for the question, but I guess they're all far too busy at their computers in the Stock Market right now.

It's a tad puzzling mind-they said lots and lots of stuff about the Trust being the second biggest shareholder, and being f*ck all to to with the fans, and I have to say they REALLY seemed to know what they were talking about when it came to high finance. I expected a quick and informed response.

Do you think maybe they DO know the answer and Shoogly has asked them to keep quiet?
mortonjag 2008-06-02 11:29:21
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 2 2008, 11:23 AM) [snapback]455179[/snapback]
Do you really have the knees for it? :boak

I thought that sort of stuff was below your dignity! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 11:36:41
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Jun 2 2008, 11:30 AM) [snapback]455184[/snapback]
Trust Forum for this pish smile.gif

EH-can you not bloody well read?

The trust does not represent the fans!

I don't want to know any more about the Trust today thanks-I merely asked while they were still visiting the fans' rag. Maybe I've missed them already.

mortonjag 2008-06-02 11:41:44
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jun 2 2008, 11:24 AM) [snapback]455180[/snapback]
You would know.

I take it you think you're straight! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 11:43:43
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Jun 2 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]455185[/snapback]
s***e is an anagram of heist.

Just incase you hadn't thought about it.

Not on this bloody board apparently! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 11:48:29
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 2 2008, 11:42 AM) [snapback]455188[/snapback]
Where did you get that from?




Sorry nach0-there's no Smiley for a tongue half way through a cheek. FFS If that's all going over your head, I'll maybe have to simplify it.

Did you perchance read all the keech from the Trust Reps? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 15:09:26
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 2 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]455235[/snapback]
thought you were a member rolleyes.gif


I am not a member at the moment. A close relative is still a member with a significant investment.


QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jun 2 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]455240[/snapback]
And Rae knows who you are? I thought you didn't show up last time you could have made yourself known?



What a stupid and illogical comment!
mortonjag 2008-06-02 15:52:49
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 2 2008, 02:44 PM) [snapback]455273[/snapback]
Bryan this question has caught my attention, as a trust member can I request that our representative on the board enquires to exactly what Mr Donald's intentions are with being on the Morton board, does he plan to invest money or maybe even buy the present owners out.

Thanks for that Jim-I have family members who could have done exactly the same. My thread had about a hundred views and many replies until it was moved to this 'MORE APPROPRIATE' backwater. dry.gif

I've shared p.m.'s with the Mods and a couple of interested posters, and I would like to know why an attempt has apparently been made to keep the question out of the 'public' eye.

It would absolutely astound me to be told that certain members of the Trust have no idea why Alistair Donald's on the Board.

It may surprise some folk Jim, but I regularly share p.m.'s with over twenty posters, quite a few of whom have 'clout' in different walks of life, but who prefer to let me do the talking. I'm getting slightly weary of all the personal abuse every time I rock the boat. I expect closed shop stuff from the Chairman-NOT from the Trust.

mortonjag 2008-06-02 16:12:45
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 2 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]455196[/snapback]
Of course I did, which is why I'm disappointed (but not the least bit surprised) that you're misrepresenting them.

In what way am I misrepresenting them, and why are you 'not surprised'.

Thank f*ck you're no longer a Mod Nach0. I'm getting weary of daft wee boys like yourself trying to undermine me when I'm on something I know about, and I resent your regular wee snide digs. If I say something wrong, correct it. Otherwise keep quiet.

Your gripe is with me-it's personal, and it's pointless. I'm only interested in the viability of Greenok Morton.

Stuart Duncan's use of spin was almost unbelievable-I'd go as far as to say unforgivable. I merely followed his line of 'logic' about the Trust being 'a shareholder', and having bugger all to do with the fans.

mortonjag 2008-06-02 16:36:35
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 2 2008, 04:21 PM) [snapback]455321[/snapback]
Please stop the personal attacks sad.gif

Bryan's already corrected what you got wrong: those involved in the trust aren't on the lookout for dividends. For you to state otherwise is incorrect. I don't think my asking where you got that impression from was a "wee snide dig". I assume that sort of well-honed, woe-is-me complex comes with age.
On some level, maybe. You're interested primarily in self-aggrandisement.
If the Trust claimed to represent all fans it would be incorrect to do so, and I imagine that some fans - such as, oh, let's say, you - might take umbrage if they claimed to speak on your behalf.


You'd have been as well saying 'Shut up because I don't like what you're saying'. That's all it amounts to, and in no way was I 'attacking you'-what I said is what I sincerely believe.

You clearly have 'a guid conceit o'yersel'. There's no harm in that per se- just remember 'You can't put an old head on young shoulders'.

You are one of only a small remaining number of intelligent posters who choose to misunderstand me and my motives. As I've already stated I'm in regular contact with many others who initially resented my very existence just as you do. They are now content to let me do much of the spadework.

They will recognise your comment about my being 'primarily interested in self aggrandisement' as a very palpable example of personal abuse, if not so glaring as my daring to tell somebody less than half my age to grow up.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 16:48:46
QUOTE(tontastic @ Jun 2 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]455325[/snapback]
To clarify, I moved the thread. Its not as if someone is going to complain when a thread directly relating to the GMST is moved to say the GMST forum.

I am complaining as you very well know. The thread had almost a hundred views until you moved it 'without trace'. Since then it has gone virtually unnoticed. I've asked you to re-instate it to where it was correctly started-a question placed by a FAN-not a Trust member-on the fan's forum for the general interest of the fans. We've been told the Trust doesn't represent the fans. Are you telling me it's composed of non fans? mellow.gif

It is utterly ludicrous to suggest that the Trust Forum is a more appropriate place, given the MONSTROUS input by Trust members to the general forum in the last couple of days.

Bryan had asked me to point out that he had not moved the thread-truth is I never for one minute had any doubt it was you.

I don't know what your real motives were, but one thing's for sure-you DIDN'T WANT IT OUT IN THE OPEN. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 16:55:30
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 2 2008, 04:46 PM) [snapback]455338[/snapback]
And the two are mutually exclusive because...?

blah blah blah
The idea that you act as the sole guarantor of all things Morton, and you're the only one willing to see the truth and really care, is a self-aggrandising one. The fact that you constantly trumpet yourself as the voice for the voiceless is a blatant example of self-aggrandisement. Morton comes second: you come first.

For the record, I'd also very much like to know what Alistair Donald's intentions are. But here's the thing: I know there are more effective ways of finding out than the one you're employing right now.

Are you going to answer my question now that we've got the pleasantries out of the way? From where or who did you get the idea that the Trust was in it for dividends?

Something contradictory there. unsure.gif

I answered your question the first time it was put. If you are too thick to understand my comment about the Smiley so be it. Nothing you've said or can say alters the truth nach0, and I regard your comments as personal abuse and ask you to stop now please. sad.gif

mortonjag 2008-06-02 16:58:31
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 2 2008, 04:55 PM) [snapback]455343[/snapback]
I'm sure most people on here use the "view new posts" option rather than trawl through the individual sb-sections. In all honesty I didn't even notice it had been moved, yet I still am here.

The number of views prior to the thread being moved versus that subsequent clearly demonstrates that you are probably mistaken.

Just another anti Jag post Puggs-don't mind the banter, but this is daft.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 17:30:00
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 2 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]455348[/snapback]
Namely?
You're going to need to explain to me which parts of your original post were tongue-in-cheek and which weren't.

Because if you want to extend the tongue-in-cheek thing a little bit further it's almost as if the whole thing was written not out of any real curiousity as to the status of Alistair Donald but rather as a showcase for your own posting talents.



Cheap, nasty, inaccurate, and perish the thought that I've lowered myself to the cliche, but the epitome of pot, kettle, and blackness.

It really saddens me that a graduate of my alma mater is apparently unable to interpret my posts objectively.

Too much politics and too little science-eh! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 17:32:33
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 2 2008, 05:15 PM) [snapback]455354[/snapback]
Well if people don't use it they should, and I suspect most do.

Not an anti-jag post, could have done that easier...I generally feel most people would not have noticed the switch.

That's the problem when you imagine everybody else thinks in the same way as yourself. We all do it in greater or smaller measure Puggs. The fact is that the thread has died a death, and I believe that was the intention when it was moved without any form of link.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 17:57:41
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 2 2008, 05:53 PM) [snapback]455370[/snapback]
Thanks for answering my question but since you clearly agree that we have failed or should that be the club to make enough progress isin't there a question as to whether the donations made by the Trust and commitment from other areas of fundraising is getting the same level of focus by the club .

I know Derek Collins seems to be genuine in his strive for change and I think he and Davie Irons hinted that the organisation eventually needs some independance so continuity is maintained at all times .

However no one can be certain the leangth of tenure a management team will have so we as a collective must ensure that whatever improvements are made that we build on them .

I don't think it is just due to a high turnover of coaches but that also shows poor decision making and if the chairman cannot find the right man is it any wonder our youth set up is so highly criticised .



Prepare to have your post censored moved to the trust forum without explanation!
mortonjag 2008-06-02 18:18:31
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 2 2008, 06:08 PM) [snapback]455376[/snapback]
Ok it hasn't moved yet so I will give everyone a heads up.

If you use the 'view new posts' option at the top then the thread will still show up even if it has moved rather than giving the appearance of it being completely taken off the board.
smile.gif

That is the operative phrase. In the past posts have shown as 'closed' or 'moved to'. The 'appearance' of having been removed certainly fooled me-NOT that I'm a regular poster or very bright for that matter. laugh.gif

I regard the moving of my question about Alistair Donald as censorship-plain and simple-wouldn't mind at all if the post was re-instated to the point of transfer with the appropriate link.

Anything wrong with that?
mortonjag 2008-06-02 18:32:58 I often rue the absence of the original 'main forum'.

Mortonjag's motives regarding Mr Mileson were being questioned years ago by the same clowns who are calling him a liar today.

Am I saying 'I told you so and you wouldn't listen'?

F*ckin' right I am.

I also correctly called the behaviour of the Administrator from day one-plenty of abuse for that too.

This post, like every post I have ever made is in the interest of self aggrandisement.

I regard self aggrandisement on a wee unofficial fans' messageboard as the pinnacle of my life's achievements.

That must surely make me a very sad old man indeed. sad.gif


Feel free to comment cool.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 18:36:00
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 2 2008, 06:24 PM) [snapback]455383[/snapback]
Alistair Donald will soon recieve the same status as *careful, or I'll close down the Internet* laugh.gif

Ah well it will keeps Dougie's spy on his toes

Hooves? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 18:38:07
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Jun 2 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]455250[/snapback]
Still nothing in...

Mind you im not really too bothered as i'll be popping in and signing up for the direct debit as is done every season, 20 odd bucks per month is not bad, i don't even notice it and that's when Morton actually take money out of my account which they fail to do sometimes haha!

I never thought you'd succeed in making me titter! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 18:40:11
QUOTE(Andy M @ Jun 2 2008, 03:51 PM) [snapback]455304[/snapback]
As stated on a previous thread, the information regarding last week's EGM at Cappilow contains some exciting news. Details can be found by clicking HERE

Trust thread for this pish!
mortonjag 2008-06-02 18:47:45
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 2 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]455205[/snapback]
Oh absolutely, it's pom-pom city on here. Cheerleaders a-go-go.

There is very little genuine footballing debate, more a serious of statements generally backing what the "management" do. Anyone who disagrees is labelled a "boo-boy". Personally I thought Irons' appointment was a terrible decision and still do but he kept us up when we were almost certainly going down so maybe he's got something. I remain to be convinced and my gut says he'll not last 2 seasons. But hey-ho, opinions are like arseholes- everyone's got one.

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Thank you for bringing tears to my eyes Mr McArthur-like myself you often talk a power of p1sh, but you sometimes hit it right on the button! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 18:50:33
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 2 2008, 06:46 PM) [snapback]455393[/snapback]
All the best to yourself and the other creditors.

Our thoughts are with the families at this sad time.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 18:54:27 As the title says! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 18:57:52
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 2 2008, 06:14 PM) [snapback]455378[/snapback]
Indeed - although I am a bit surprised that moronjag hasn't become a run away leader here but know I am on here as I generally make a few points and look to stir up some debate.

Certainly don't post total spammers of threads or say hi to my mates in a public forum. And any post consisting of only a smilley should be automatically deleted.

As for the ignore facility - I have MJ on it as I hated myself for getting dragged into his innane drivell. Have bawheid on it as well as his level of p1sh being spouted was at one point unberable - fortunately he doesn't seem to be about much now.

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What's really getting on moronjag's tits is the fact that he tries to be annoying and you're almost keeping up with him! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 19:01:15
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 2 2008, 06:56 PM) [snapback]455401[/snapback]
It's South Lanarkshire, the land that the enlightenment forgot. wink.gif
:lol
Croy is North Lanarkshire MJ.

Lanarkshire is a strange place, Ghetto towns, bead rattlers in Croy & Coatbridge, Flute tooters in Airdire and Larkhall. blink.gif

Makes Pishley seem like a reasonable toon.

Well aware of it Mr Bam-I just felt the Carfin thing was to do with the Grotto rather than its penchant for 'bead rattling'.

Croy-now that's a different story! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 19:08:05
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 2 2008, 04:49 PM) [snapback]455340[/snapback]
Dear Ms Lee



Thank you for your email.



I wonder if in fact you read what I said rather than what the Sunday Times has said. My quotation in quotation marks calls for the appointment of a Deputy Prime Minister and my suggestion is Jack Straw. I have never called for this to be held by an “English†person. I have never called for the purging of anyone in fact if you read my quote I state quite clearly that I do not see the need for a reshuffle. Indeed I strongly support the Prime Minister and he is Scottish!



With Best wishes



Keith Vaz





Whom to believe Mrs Lee-Mr Vaz or the little chap who started this important thread.

He seems to have disappeared. I sincerely hope he hasn't fallen off his high chair or anything awful like that-the little chap I mean-not the man with the brown face.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 19:12:19
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 2 2008, 11:43 AM) [snapback]455189[/snapback]
Is this the "Pure Dead Brilliant" slogan? The woman who apparently devised the slogan, is now a senior executive in West Dunbartonshire council. She is very proud of it and sees it as one of her crowning achievements (allegedly)... cream does rise to the top! blink.gif


Is this your bad week HT? tongue.gif


QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 2 2008, 06:25 PM) [snapback]455384[/snapback]
I've always considered myself republican minded, but I think if we had a proper Scottish monarch, who was just the king of Scotland and stayed in Scotland all the time I'd be happy with that.

But if we became independent and retained our status in the commonwealth then i couldn't give two hoots about the Queen.

Constituntially speaking there can be very little differnece that effects the running of the country between a monarchy and a republic these days. In fact many republics feel they need some kind of other figurehead as the president ends up with too much ceremonial work to do.


Why do the posts always sound like a draft of an essay for the O level English re-sit?
mortonjag 2008-06-02 19:18:57
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 2 2008, 04:05 PM) [snapback]455310[/snapback]
I dont disagree that Arbuckle is a poor target for us.

This is the post I disagreed with

Or are you saying I should wake up to the fact that this is actually positive message board? unsure.gif

Not like you to misrepresent someone rolleyes.gif

That's quite true!

I was thinking of Mr McArthur's comments and WAKEY!

QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Jun 2 2008, 05:54 PM) [snapback]455371[/snapback]
Also worried. It's a signing he'd have fully expected McInally to make.

After last season I'm very confident in Davie Irons but I seriously hope there are more players to come in.

The Monkey agrees with Kermit. Fing says it's not Mr Irons fault if he's got no money.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 19:33:03
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 2 2008, 06:49 PM) [snapback]455396[/snapback]
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thanks for your ASSistance .


It was BRAYve of you to mention Shoogly's spy again. Keep a close eye on your post it could disappear with neigh explanation.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 19:37:10
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 2 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]455410[/snapback]
I was surprised Mr Vaz replied so quickly. (So un- male like)

Now now do not discriminate against the Vertically challenged, Mr Jag rolleyes.gif

Wood eye?


Talking of males females and the MP in question, there's a VAS deferens!
mortonjag 2008-06-02 19:39:16
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 2 2008, 07:37 PM) [snapback]455413[/snapback]
MortonJag is wonderful and if he were chocolate he'd eat himself. wink.gif
Ps. Lets not hijack this thread with your own agenda, theres a good pensioner. tongue.gif
Oh, and i almost forgot....

Alibi laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif




Mortonjag said that first.



Alibi is not a pensioner-bet he wishes he was! laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 19:50:13
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 2 2008, 07:42 PM) [snapback]455416[/snapback]
MJ your constant mockery of my disability is become increasingly tedious and offensive.

Please stop.

Not half as tedious as your constantly telling me to f*ck off for daring to call your precious thread in question.

Furthermore it seems that I may JUST have made a valid point.



The truth is that you selectively become offended-many other posters poke fun at you-AS I DO-yet you choose to pull out the disability badge when it suits your devious purposes.

Grow up.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 20:32:35
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 2 2008, 07:50 PM) [snapback]455421[/snapback]
Has anyone else noticed how Tom McB isn't getting on his moral high-horse over Mortonjags jibes about your heightist abuse. CHC, i bet you wish you were Asian, as then you could rely on that sanctimonious t*** for hauners against Resident Loonball.

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Discrimination against mental ilness will not be tolerated. wink.gif

QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 2 2008, 07:54 PM) [snapback]455424[/snapback]
Being told to grow up from a pensioner who publicly ridicules someone's disability really does take the biscuit. laugh.gif


Ageism will not be tolerated either, especially from somebody who in the past has publicly mocked my disability, despite my belief that I had answered a sincere question in confidence.

You described me earlier in the thread in 'glowing terms'-those were also offensive and INTENDED TO OFFEND.

I have never publicly ridiculed anybody's disability, nor will I.

If, however, you are deliberately offensive and disrespectful of me, I'd suggest that poking a little jibe back can hardly be construed as publicly mocking you.

Furthermore I DO apologise if you have been offended-I'm not a hurtful person-NOR AM I made of steel.

Did that ever occur to you?
mortonjag 2008-06-02 20:37:58
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 2 2008, 07:53 PM) [snapback]455423[/snapback]
...why is Thornton not on the list actually? ohmy.gif

Because nobody wants him to win anything.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 20:40:43
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 2 2008, 07:46 PM) [snapback]455419[/snapback]
Nope, he'll be wishing Annan get elected to the SFL so he can offer them his consulting services to build a dinky wee stand with corrugated iron roof and a few hundred plastic seats, whilst invoicing them £90k for his sycophancy in their hospitality box.

You are awful!
mortonjag 2008-06-02 21:12:47
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 2 2008, 08:42 PM) [snapback]455446[/snapback]
Maybe deego didn't want to risk being corrected if the smallest detail in the setting up of his poll was inaccurate.

JEEEEsus-you DO want to win! huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 21:16:49
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 2 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]455422[/snapback]
Are you trying to stirrup some trouble ?

misuse of power makes me bridle but we're saddled with the status quo
mortonjag 2008-06-02 22:20:55
QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Jun 2 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]455481[/snapback]
Brevity is indeed the soul of wit!

As I stated earlier, it IS utterly pathetic to see the knee jerking defensivenesss of folk who haven't really been attacked!
That sort of reaction always rings alarm bells in my head.
You've gone to uncanny lengths to argue the general from the particular, and your 'get out' is always the same-the Trust doesn't need to/isn't supposed to/ shouldn't have to/ doesn't want to represent the fans at Board level.

Correction, we would be more than happy to represent the fans at Board level, all they need to do is become shareholders (members) of the Greenock Morton Supporters' Society Ltd. When the majority do we can claim to represent the majority of Morton fans. We don't have a hidden agenda, if our shareholders/members are unhappy they have every opportunity to express that and unlike some organisation have the ability to do something about it.

The trust has ALWAYS been perceived by the majority of Morton supporters as 'representing the fans, and similary, Jim McColl has always been seen as 'the fans' representative on the Board.

I'm sure its never been perceived that way by the Supporters Clubs, one of which I'm a member, whom I'm sure would take a different attitude and quite rightly so.

That he and Auld Shoogly share few confidences is evidenced by the former having to ask 'who is Mortonjag'?
Do you think it would be a good idea to close down the Trust in its present form? I ask as a mere fan with no invested interest. After all, the Trust is 'not a group of fans'-indeed it's 'not even a group of shareholders', it is 'A SHAREHOLDER'.

The Greenock Morton Supporters' Society Ltd is a registered Industrial and Provident Society, owned by it's members, democratically run on a one member one vote principle. Our members/shareholders own the Society. We have no intention of moving away from our democratic principles and changing our present form.

An inanimate shareholder can't possibly identify or empathise with real live fans-I can't argue there.

Owned by it's members, democratically run on a one member one vote principle. Our members/shareholders own the Society. I think you'll find that it is "real live fans" who turn up at our AGM not cyber folk.

What about the hundreds of Trust members who disagree with that Stuart?
Did you consider their opinions, and their undying efforts to support 'the club' by raising money to fund projects 'the club' should really be funding himself, before you got wellied into your bed time story?

Democratically run on a one member one vote principle. If you are a member and don't agree with what happens today you have the ability to put your case forward to change it. If the majority agree with you then its a done deal, one member, one vote. It's as straight forward and simple as that

As I said before, FACTS ARE CHIELS THAT WINNA DING.

Only when you get them right.


It was, with due respect, a total waste of time reading that. Repeating yourself ad nauseam isn't really answering the questions I put.

The Trust HAS generally been seen to represent the fans, and Jim McColl HAS generally been seen to be their representative on the board.

I have NEVER stated that either of those perceptions has been correct, but perceptions they have been, and the fan base is MUCH bigger than just the supporters clubs or Trust as you very well know.

I have had over a dozen pm's today Stuart, several regarding the Moderator's apparent high handedness, in 'eliminating' my question about Alistair Donald, but four from posters encouraging me to 'keep asking questions'. Posters who, understandably, don't want to lift their heads above the parapet.

Is that in spite of your reassuring noises, or because of them-what do YOU think?
mortonjag 2008-06-02 22:36:43
QUOTE(Andy M @ Jun 2 2008, 08:15 PM) [snapback]455433[/snapback]
Hi Mortonjag.

I’ve been reading your posts and until now I haven’t really commented on them because I never could be sure what your intentions were.

I think in the past you have posted some pretty decent articles and asked some pretty pertinent questions. Unfortunately when you post questions on this messageboard, then you only get the opinions of the people who use the board. You get nothing from the club (not that I would expect that) but you do get a lot of so called people “in the knowâ€. To criticise such “answers†the way you do does you no favours at all and gets you no closer to the correct answer.

I’m now trying to work out whether you just have a dislike for the Trust or not. I am beginning to think that you are really on a crusade to get DDF out of here. Well, i‘ve been in that position before and can tell you that your going about it in the wrong way. Lace into what’s wrong at the club, not what’s right. If the trust had been around prior to the battle that I and others fought, then we would not have ended up in the mess that we did.

I don’t agree with everything that the trust does, but I know that those who run the trust are trustworthy. I know that they will “blow the whistle†if necessary, and I know that until then they will continue to help the club in whatever way they see fit.

There were trust members and shareholders at the EGM. A trust member decided to take notes and post on the trust’s website for the benefit of his fellow trust members. It would appear that none of the other people present saw fit to take notes and post them on here. So you read a post which is in the wrong section of the forum and slam it as being “pishâ€. Are you angry because you can’t read the content? Or, are you angry at the trust? Or is it something else?

This makes me think that you are not such a bad guy, cos if you were trying to mount a serious crusade against DDF then you wouldn’t do it like that. We put the trust in place to take care of things like that should they be necessary. Maybe you want to consider helping them and giving your questions directly to them? That’s what I do, and they give me answers – it’s a great concept.



Andy-you are just another 'good guy' whose cage has been rattled, and BTW I've already seen those minutes! Mortonjag has many contacts who have come to understand that he has NO HIDDEN AGENDA.

I call it as I see it Andy-I don't like complacency-even from good guys-and the kind of knee jerking we're currently seeing makes me uncomfortable. I'm not trying to 'remove Rae'-he's making a damned good job of discrediting himself-but only a year or so ago I took 'pelters' for even daring to call him 'Shoogly'! IMHO he is an embarrassment to any intelligent fan and the ONE thing which now hampers progress.

You have totally misunderstood my 'Trust forum for this pish' comment. That was in response to our hallowed Mod transferring my legitimate open question to the Trust (re Alistair Donald) to the relative inexposure of the Trust forum. Why was that done do you think?

Far too many folk up their own arses, and far too many folk who have just had their own comfort zones violated.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 22:43:50
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 2 2008, 09:26 PM) [snapback]455461[/snapback]
I didn't call anyone 'brown faced'. Why are you asking me to defend something someone else said?

You have called me a fascist and a racist because I didn't condemn someone else for using that reference.

Does that make everyone else who didn't condemn it a fascist and racist as well, or is it just me?

You DID call me a pensioner.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 22:45:38
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 2 2008, 09:43 PM) [snapback]455468[/snapback]
I think there should be a separate thread for those who constantly refer to themselves in the third person......

Mortonjag concurs.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 22:49:18
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 2 2008, 10:43 PM) [snapback]455501[/snapback]
Yes. Yes she did.

Not you in that wig Davie.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 22:52:25
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 2 2008, 10:15 PM) [snapback]455485[/snapback]
bollocks ?? yes it would be if it was going through the books, but it isnt so it has no effect on my income tax ph34r.gif ohmy.gif

so far
mortonjag 2008-06-02 23:01:02
QUOTE(Andy M @ Jun 2 2008, 10:49 PM) [snapback]455506[/snapback]
Point(s) taken. Do you still not fancy joining the trust though? If more people with your enthusiam joined then I think the trust could achieve much much more than it is at present.

I'm not too keen on being regarded as a "good guy". I'd do the same as last time if I thought it necessary, it's just that I don't see the club being in any danger of going under at the moment. Thats not to say that I'm not looking at the situations as they arise. I therefore believe that we need a strong trust - with as many members as possible, if only to serve as a deterrent to any mischief or endangerment by ANY owner.

And, this is a good advert for the trust - so keep the debate going by all means, but try not to get angry.... ya bas wink.gif



Thanks Andy!


I have considered joining many times. Posts like yours encourage me. Why are other folk so nasty? sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 23:04:54
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jun 2 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]455494[/snapback]
I have it on good authority that we are looking at a striking target of considerable more prowess than Arbuckle. So rest assured, we are looking at the right kind of player, we will just need to wait and see what unravels over the next couple of weeks. I'm pretty pleased with the signings thus far and I think that if all goes to plan, everyone will be happy with the squad come August.



signed Shoogly

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mortonjag 2008-06-02 23:07:30
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 2 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]455508[/snapback]
Yes. Yes it was.

Your modesty knows no bounds!
mortonjag 2008-06-02 23:10:29 Kirsty Young =arrogant dog=well known fact.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 23:15:28
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 2 2008, 05:52 PM) [snapback]455369[/snapback]
I just think long-term posters would have saw this option up there, tried it and realised it is the best way to view all the boards new posts.

Maybe I assume people have too much common sense, or are stuck in their ways.

Almost six hours and not a post Puggs-do you think the Moderator made the correct decision?

The Trust are claiming that the current publicity on the main forum is the best thing since sliced bread! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 05:30:19
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 2 2008, 11:27 PM) [snapback]455532[/snapback]
sad.gif

Guess I'm the only one to use it then tongue.gif

I doubt that, but I think my point has been made with poetic justice. The Moderator moved it without warning to a 'more appropriate forum'. If the Moderator wanted to stifle debate he was temporarily successful. I suspect he would claim that that was not his intention. wacko.gif

P.S. For the avoidance of confusion it wasn't the wee Moderator from Inverclyde, the medium Moderator from Embra, or the ex Moderator from Up his ain erse! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 06:03:00
QUOTE(Jim McColl @ Jun 3 2008, 12:53 AM) [snapback]455554[/snapback]
Andy, you are upset about being regarded as a "good guy" how the hell do you think I feel being regarded as "Mr nice guy" by people who know virtually nothing about me. You wouldn't believe the things I have to do for the Trust. Well actually you would, but most people on here wouldn't smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif
You also know that if we ever had to take to the streets again this time many of us would be much better prepared than the last time.

I wholeheartedly endorse this point to MJ. The strongest Trusts are those that embrace the widest range of supporters views. We are democrats, if we are in the minority we will move aside. I would love us to be a "broad church" but we can't force people to join, we can only make sure that the cost at less than 3p per day is trivial.
This is a long term thing about protecting clubs as community assets for our children and grandchildren.
Think about it again MJ.

Jim, I DO understand what it feels like to work your baws off as an officer with an autocratic psychopath on the bridge. I've been there myself in Practice, and after almost ten years of managing to change nothing I moved on to pastures new and a significantly lower income.

I have described you as 'Mr Nice Guy' only in response to those who have given you unqualified support. I believe you have singularly failed to 'represent the fans at Board level', but it seems that was never your remit in the first place, and I apologise if I've said anything unfair.


One thing IS clear though-the function of the Trust is still widely misunderstood not just by fans, but by many trust members. I got a p.m.yesterday from a regular poster lending support to my questions and signing himself 'Disgusted Trust member'.

The common thread seems to be a failure on the part of the Trust to communicate adequately with its members. Indeed that may be a very apt description of what started 'Keeping track of the Money'. Hopefully good will come of all this.

We should be pulling together as fans-maybe you need Mortonjag as your PR man-guaranteed I'd have Shoogly splashing his stash and giggling like a tickled child in less time than it takes to unwrap a Fudgy Wudgy. Mortonjag has that effect on folk. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 06:11:31
QUOTE(Jim McColl @ Jun 2 2008, 11:34 PM) [snapback]455534[/snapback]
I'm stretching my imagination as far as I can and still finding it hard to think of a situation where in a conversation between me and DDF the word mortonjag would arise. laugh.gif
The question was, as I think you know, rhetorical. I was making a point about some being criticised for using an alias when almost everybody uses an alias.
I really will have to learn to use these wee faces properly.
smile.gif


QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Jun 2 2008, 11:50 PM) [snapback]455539[/snapback]
Maybe now people will realise that we don't represent all the fans, we couldn't possibly. But we have said that over and over again. If I'm repeating myself its in the forlorn hope that people will get the message. If they want the Trust to represent them they have to join.

We have received a question from a member regarding Mr Donald and we will take action on behalf of that member.

If people don't want to lift their head above the parapet that's fine. I understand that. But any correspondence we get from a member is dealt with in confidence. What that member choses to do with any answers they may get to questions is entirely up to them.


You can't really let go-can you Stuart! You claim to be relishing publicity while still sounding like a Masonic Grand Master sad.gif

BTW that wee face was for Jim's benefit! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 06:28:08 Ubiquitous Chap-Club director posted 'absent' at the recent EGM-says little-supposed to be on Board in ADVISORY capacity smile.gif -quoted as 'I won't be investing at this stage'-worth mega bucks-well known Hun-


What's the score folks?
mortonjag 2008-06-03 06:38:09 If a thread is transferred from one forum to another can we ensure in future that it doesn't just 'disappear'.

This suggestion is particularly relevant to threads which have run for many hours with several inputs and a hundred or so views, as in yesterday's re Alistair Donald.

I believe it would get our Moderators a better press-indeed it might make them look less self indulgent and more interested in un-muffled debate.
mortonjag 2008-06-03 06:43:12
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 2 2008, 11:17 PM) [snapback]455527[/snapback]
If she's an "arrogant dog" ye could just pump her anyway, then tell her she was crap.

She was crap-it was pure arrogance insisting on the money.
mortonjag 2008-06-03 06:46:40
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jun 2 2008, 09:46 PM) [snapback]455472[/snapback]
Hello,

I was wondering if you remember the series that used to come on childrens TV about a young girl called Heidi who lived in the swiss alps with her grandfather ?

There was a boy who looked after goats called Peter and he was her friend.

One day Heidi's rich aunt came and took her away from her grandfather and into a real posh house, they started calling her Adelheid there instead of Heidi...Heidi didnt like it much and dreamt of being back with her grandfather.

Heidi eventually came back and had managed to get a pair of spectacles for Peter's blind grandmother.

It came on nearly every year or so. Do you remember it ?


One of the problems faced by wee pensioners is the fading memory. For some reason I always mix 'Heidi' up with 'Snowwhite and the seven * potential ethnic slur removed*'
mortonjag 2008-06-03 07:00:09
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Jun 3 2008, 12:43 AM) [snapback]455553[/snapback]
What was racist about the post? Keith Vaz has brown skin, therefore he IS brown faced. A statement of fact. If that's racist, why have you not condemed Mortonjag on his numerous use of the "little PINK botties" phrase?


I would happily thrash any little botty which deserved to be thrashed. I was brought up in a Christian country in an age when the thrashing of little pink botties was acceptably normal. I believe I was in my late thirties when I first saw little brown, and little black botties too. I can say from the heart of my bottom that I was not intending to cause racial offence.



QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 3 2008, 02:14 AM) [snapback]455562[/snapback]
So let me get this right..... either I condemn a posting, made by someone else, that you consider to be 'politically incorrect' otherwise I am a fascist and a racist..... laugh.gif

Do you have any idea how much of a fool of yourself you're making? You know, the really sad thing about this is, you almost certainly don't.

There, there-talk about accusing others of hi-jacking your thread when you've made a cracking job of it yourself.

Care to comment on Mr Vaz's e-mail? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 07:05:18
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 2 2008, 11:26 PM) [snapback]455531[/snapback]
Why is that Katkit guy not on the list?

Somebody melted him.

QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 3 2008, 02:33 AM) [snapback]455564[/snapback]
i picked piehutt, but only because the other two are my Cyber lovers. Im the meat in their youthful and ageing sandwhich.


Perhaps we could invite piehole along on Saturday-who knows-it might be his first time!
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 3 2008, 02:34 AM) [snapback]455565[/snapback]
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wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif


TRUSSSSSSSSSSSST IN ME
mortonjag 2008-06-03 07:16:38 I expect some of our posters have experienced this illness. I've treated it in the past, but now have a family member affected.

How did it make you feel, how long were you off school/studies/ work, did others think you were 'at it'?

In particular I'd like to know how long it was before you were FULLY recovered.
mortonjag 2008-06-03 07:20:36 An update for those who asked for pics. I've managed to put a wee photo on my profile. I can't work out how to put one here! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 07:59:39
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 3 2008, 07:49 AM) [snapback]455583[/snapback]
I already did........ 23 hours ago.

See my posting yesterday at 8:47am.

Yes I had seen that-I meant the e-mail to Mrs Lee.
mortonjag 2008-06-03 08:24:02
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jun 3 2008, 07:57 AM) [snapback]455584[/snapback]
count me in, i could do with losing some weight tongue.gif

You'll need to stop consuming leaded fuel my dear.
mortonjag 2008-06-03 08:28:16 Which is worse- a few drunken clowns doing daft wee Hitler salutes and stuff, or a few drunken clowns tanning some old dear's window? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 08:33:22
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jun 3 2008, 08:28 AM) [snapback]455590[/snapback]
yeah that would maybe help - but the buzz is awesome!

laugh.gif

I'd also advise Voddy straight from the litre bottle-those crystal glasses are full of lead-worse than sookin' a bullet I'm lead to believe, and it saves you having to refill four times.
mortonjag 2008-06-03 08:36:21
QUOTE(dazed @ Jun 3 2008, 08:31 AM) [snapback]455591[/snapback]
i remember this game also but im afraid your memory is playing tricks on you as he did not play in this game as he was injured . Most of the crowd turned up hoping to see him as he retired soon after .

Correct-Hal Stewart sure knew how to con folk pull in a crowd! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 08:40:11
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jun 3 2008, 08:34 AM) [snapback]455593[/snapback]
give it a rest mj.
i'm onboard with 'some' of your points about dougie, but give alistair donald and the trust guys some peace

unsure.gif


It is intended to be a SERIOUS question about an issue which I believe should interest all true fans.

Anyway-you should know better than to ask me to 'give it a rest'.

There again-maybe you did! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 08:46:51
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 3 2008, 08:40 AM) [snapback]455599[/snapback]
Stephen Ladysman, a former rides minister who is MP for Lanark South, a marginal constituency, said: “It is important to recognise that the election is won or lost in Scotland.

“We need to have Scottish voices speaking and giving messages that make sense in Scottish communities.â€

His views were echoed by H E Boil, the MP for Elgin: “Voters are looking to see a better balance within the cabinet to ensure that all the regions of Scotland are represented.â€

ibid

hardly racism, though



Sounds like just what the folk want to hear Trumpet!
mortonjag 2008-06-03 08:51:35
QUOTE(dazed @ Jun 3 2008, 08:46 AM) [snapback]455607[/snapback]
Correct-Hal Stewart sure knew how to con folk pull in a crowd! wink.gif
[/quoteI think im right in saying that Hal was the first director / owner to have a testemonial game! and brought out Celtic and Rangers cigarettes to let the bigots smoke themselves to oblivion! Although this idea never really caught fire and they quickly disappeared!

laugh.gif laugh.gif

That definitely rings a bell!

He was-I believe- a regional sales director for the Coop-'Rocky Mount' was the brand he peddled in them thar days, when real men smoked Capstan full strength to 'take the strain', closet pufes dragged on Craven A-'kind to your throat', and Woodbine was 'A rer wee fag'!.
mortonjag 2008-06-03 08:58:34 unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 09:02:09
QUOTE(dazed @ Jun 3 2008, 08:37 AM) [snapback]455595[/snapback]
Thats a fair point we must control our neds better! laugh.gif what does the monkey think?

The Monkey is in favour of thrashing little pink botties.

QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 3 2008, 08:37 AM) [snapback]455596[/snapback]
MJ, I think that was one drunken yob, not a whole bunch of them. The Nazi stuff is there, and in significant numbers, at every Airdrie game.

I hope they don't change the world!

QUOTE(dazed @ Jun 3 2008, 08:43 AM) [snapback]455604[/snapback]
Joking aside you are right its not just one or two there is plenty of them .

Hunners even?
mortonjag 2008-06-03 09:04:49
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 3 2008, 08:43 AM) [snapback]455603[/snapback]
I'm glad you find it all so amusing. Pr1ck.

Hang on, you have a customer waiting. I think he wants fries with that.

Does caputupanus have a bugger burger van?
mortonjag 2008-06-03 12:44:51
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jun 3 2008, 12:03 PM) [snapback]455676[/snapback]
if he has been involved in making the club more profitable, and brining in new ideas, then I ask.. where is the evidence of these... the club is still run like a cub scout bring and buy sale, there has been no "new ideas" or "thinking outside the box" as far as I can see.. quite the opposite in fact, we are continuing to see commercial suicide as far as marketing morton football club as a brand (even though it is a small one)... if you want commercial success you MUST put your customer first (the fans) otherwise everything else wont click into place.. regardless of sponsorship / tv / league monies etc.

In a broader and forward thinking sense, the new share issue can surely be seen as a step forward.

In every other sense I agree with what you say-the Club is an utter shambles of amateurism.

Here's a very simple example-it costs £2.50 for a match day programme, and income from advertising is linked to sales figures-sell more programmes and you can charge more money to wealthier advertisers-that's how it works-quite simple. £2.50's a sort of make or break figure for the average fan-if he's looking forward to reading the programme he'll shell out-otherwise it buys another pint after the match.

So what's the biggest by far article every week-a two page splurge of 'Chairman's Notes' which invariably includes criticism of our players, sometimes of our fans, and which is written in embarrassingly stilted English. O.K. it's Dougie Rae's Club-he's entitled to have his say, but surely this is just one example of how bad the Chairman's business sense is-certainly when it comes to running a football club. Apart from that it's a lucky bag of good and downright crass. Arthur Montford's excellent articles certainly give a lot of credibility to the rag.

Project that scenario to what should be the real money spinner in the advertising stakes-sponsorship-and IMHO you see one of the biggest jokes in Scottish football.

If Alistair Donald had had anything to do with it I believe we'd already have a new sponsor.

I can't see someone with his track record meekly giving advice only to see it knocked back, yet I DON'T believe he's there for fun.

Is he playing a waiting game? Is he hoping Auld Shoogly is about to pop his clogs-if so he may very well go first!! smile.gif

....or could it be that he's already offered money to buy the club only to discover that true to form the asking price is way over the odds?
mortonjag 2008-06-03 12:50:07
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jun 3 2008, 12:42 PM) [snapback]455698[/snapback]
Then why the 'HUN' remark ?
It's the usual so boring Mj having a go. We all know that when given the opportunity he didn't say a thing.

The question maybe valid but who on this board can give the answer?

Ask the powers that be and get off your trip Mj.

It would appear that Mortonjag's posts continue to be therapeutic for the borderline brain damaged and angst laden.

A point of information for you-Mr Donald is a well known, life time, and avid Rangers fan who reputedly tried to invest some ten million in the club a few years back.

If you object to me calling him a 'hun', I'm sorry to have offended you and would like to know which Scottish football team you support.
mortonjag 2008-06-03 12:54:22 Zilch on GMFC! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 12:57:10
QUOTE(dazed @ Jun 3 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]455656[/snapback]
Aye an mibby thoosanns! laugh.gif

Lots of lovely little pink botties, each with its endearing little swastika tattoo-WALLOP-WALLOP-WALLOP! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 13:01:56
QUOTE(Patg @ Jun 3 2008, 09:25 AM) [snapback]455618[/snapback]
I was told recently that Gretnas chairmen took out a second mortage on his house to garuntee some money at the bank ...

So this poor guy is going lose his house in next few weeks ,,,

Pat G
Ton Till I Die



It happens to folk who make foolish business decisions every day of the week. There are worse things in life than losing your home.

Look at poor Mr Mileson, lying somewhere on his death bed as he battles legion ailments, and never a word of complaint is heard.

Time to get things in perspective.
mortonjag 2008-06-03 13:04:13
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 3 2008, 09:12 AM) [snapback]455614[/snapback]
Same response.... the e-mail to Ms Lee was word-for-word the same as the one he sent me.

Did he know you are both Morton fans?
mortonjag 2008-06-03 13:08:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 3 2008, 09:19 AM) [snapback]455616[/snapback]
He was also involved in whisky distribution.

Whit a man.

smile.gif smile.gif

He certainly catered for the man in the street-if he'd been in the sex industry I can imagine the ad...

Hal's Angels-why pay more?
mortonjag 2008-06-03 13:10:16
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 3 2008, 10:30 AM) [snapback]455636[/snapback]
Three of my mates work in the oil industry (all offshore) and I'm sure they won't mind me saying that they are ridiculously overpaid for what they do. They're on 4 or 5 times more than someone doing a comparable job onshore

Fair play to them though, I don't grudge them it - they're hardly going to knock it back and they're all well aware it's not going to last forever.

laugh.gif

Almost all of my patients who worked offshore were very heavy drinkers! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 13:12:22
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 3 2008, 10:32 AM) [snapback]455637[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif

You'll notice the 'ageing' bit.

That boy will go far!
mortonjag 2008-06-03 13:23:51 links?
mortonjag 2008-06-03 13:26:40
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 3 2008, 12:25 PM) [snapback]455684[/snapback]
I can have a look, but I suspect I/we'll need to own the licence for the software before we can do that...although happy to be proved wrong? Nach0 may know more as I think he purchased a software licence when he was in charge.
I don't always leave a tracer either, especially if a thread is simply in the wrong place. I have played about and left a tracer to your Trust thread. Case closed?

I certainly wouldn't want to look bad in the eyes of the forum members...I wouldn't be able to sleep at night.

tongue.gif Wish others were like you!
mortonjag 2008-06-03 13:37:42
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jun 3 2008, 01:00 PM) [snapback]455724[/snapback]
The usual abusive reply that I have come to expect from you.
Why do you refer to yourself in the third person?
I support Greenock Morton and have done so for my entire life. Born and bred Morton.
I was born in this town live in this town and support my local side. Unlike you my focus is positive. I don't waste time being negative in as many topics as you seem to haunt.

Come on Doc there are plenty of bad things in this world why don't you be positive and try and use your time and energy in a constructive way.

It's actually your type of random criticism of the Jag which is now becoming boring to the posters. Instead of acknowledging like THE MAJORITY of posters on this thread that I've asked valid questions, you couldn't resist 'having a go'. Nothing positive at all-just bloody well having a go, and you accuse ME of being 'abusive'. mad.gif

QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jun 3 2008, 01:16 PM) [snapback]455742[/snapback]
I understand that. However to keep a balance we all need to be positive to balance Mj negativity.
Check out the threads he is currenty active in "Kirtsy Young" "Allan McManus" etc etc negative , negative negative.

What do I know? Apparently I am borderline brain damaged. rolleyes.gif

Really-that would explain everything-I merely had you as angst laden.

QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jun 3 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]455748[/snapback]
maybe if EVERYONE else who uses this bord became negative.. then MortonJag would HAVE to resort to being positive, just to be different (if that is his intentions)....

wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 13:40:39
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 3 2008, 01:29 PM) [snapback]455756[/snapback]
laugh.gif That joke was rough tongue.gif

Couldn't resist chipping in.
mortonjag 2008-06-03 18:47:49
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jun 3 2008, 09:34 AM) [snapback]455620[/snapback]
Of course, if you were to be our PR man you would actually be expected to show up anytime Rae held a public meeting.

What a silly and pointless thing to say.
mortonjag 2008-06-03 18:59:09
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jun 3 2008, 03:07 PM) [snapback]455795[/snapback]
Whoopedeedoo you've made some valid points. Let a horse blow into a trumpet for a year and it's sure to hit some proper notes occasionally.

Another of the 'positive' brigade I see!

Did that make you feel very important?

Mortonjag ALWAYS makes valid points.


Cretins have difficulty in recognising valid points.

What are your views on Alistair Donald?

I see the Trust is as quiet about this as they were noisy for the past couple of days- maybe they're working on a six page reply!

Stuart, Jim, Trust Member-Mortonjag's giving you more publicity! wink.gif wink.gif wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 19:02:17
QUOTE(ianton @ Jun 3 2008, 06:54 PM) [snapback]455862[/snapback]
thats a fair shout.he bottles out of every meeting.he just makes the bullets for everybody else to fire.then spouts his pish on here.

What do you think of Alistair Donald-Einstein? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 19:15:54
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 3 2008, 03:19 PM) [snapback]455797[/snapback]
I met my mate his name was Cliff
He was in a huff as we had a tiff
I said "what's wrong, you look out of sorts ?"
He said "Does my bum look big in my wee white tennis shorts ?"

I said " Don't ask me ask Big Dennis"
He said "Don't be silly, he's not into tennis!"
I said "Fcuk knows !"
But he took the huff, and walked away on his tippy toes



I met my mate the other day...
the one who claims Sir Cliff is 'gay'
and sticking knob up bum's a footer---
'cos Moira's always there to put 'er
ageing gob around your shooter
when Bawheid's shagging Soapy Soutar--
he says he likes it best that way
and who am I to disagree...
it stops the c*nt from shagging me.

mortonjag 2008-06-03 19:21:18
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 3 2008, 07:15 PM) [snapback]455872[/snapback]
one of our members has asked us to ask what Alistair Donalds role is, when he gets a reply he can do what he wants with it. currently we know what was in the tele and what was stated in Scottish Cup programme v Gretna dated 12th January which can be read http://greenockmortonfc.blogspot.com/2008/...r-on-board.html on jonatons great blog.

Jonaton has things tattooed on his great blog Bryan.

The world's full of surprises!

I heard it reads 'Asti Dad'. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 19:27:07
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Jun 3 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]455773[/snapback]
I've voted for MJ, but just to please him!

Thanks Toon-it looks like the old Jag's now winning.

That's as should be of course.

What are the odds against piehole coming in with a late burst?
mortonjag 2008-06-03 19:29:19
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jun 3 2008, 03:05 PM) [snapback]455794[/snapback]
.....or someone has stolen his logon details !!

midTONs was not Davie McArthur
mortonjag 2008-06-03 19:31:24
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 3 2008, 04:01 PM) [snapback]455808[/snapback]
He's also got two lugs, brown eyes, dark hair.

Nobody called him a two lugged racist, a brown eyed racist, a dark haired racist.

Why is skin colour so important?

Keeps the melanocytes off the dole.
mortonjag 2008-06-03 19:33:12 I thought this was another thread about Kirsty Young.
mortonjag 2008-06-03 19:37:59
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 3 2008, 02:54 PM) [snapback]455789[/snapback]
Is there any chance that MJ could have his own thread and have his I'D pinned to it so he cant post on every single other thread. Then if folk are interested they will have the option of replying or not wink.gif

I don't think the big Mod would allow that Gibby-though it's an ingenious idea. If it does happen-promise me you'll only post when sober. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 19:40:25
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jun 3 2008, 07:24 PM) [snapback]455878[/snapback]
rolleyes.gif

Let's not get carried away just yet wink.gif

Mortonjag never gets carried away Cawstick tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 19:45:02 I met my mate the other day
He said-a goalie's signed for Rae
His name I hear is Clayton Ince
He'll be another pun o' mince.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 04:32:43

Geoff Brown, the St Johnstone chairman, last night angrily blamed a Brooks Mileson "ego trip" for Gretna's grief and insisted Scottish football should put measures in place to make sure there is no repeat of this fiasco.

Brown was on the receiving end of flak from Gretna management and players last summer for stating they weren't wanted by the SPL, after the Perth club were pipped to promotion on the final day.

However, Brown said: "They talked about living the dream and some people bought into it while Gretna were promoted, reached the cup final and qualified for Europe. But there was always going to be a day of reckoning.


"When Gretna beat us to the title last year I was painted as the bad guy for saying in public what SPL chairman were saying in private. But why pull the wool over fans' eyes? No-one wanted them in the SPL - and no wonder given what followed. It has been a mess.

"As far as I'm concerned people were misled by an ego-tripper who was looking after No.1. The debts have stacked up and some very good people could be facing financial ruin. How many of Gretna's creditors are ordinary folk who have been taken to the cleaners? That infuriates me. They have been taken for ride.

"There's a credibility issue for Scottish football and I remember Fergus McCann in his time at Celtic saying clubs should have a business plan and financial statements in place to see them through the following season. That way the league could be assured the fixtures would be fulfilled.

"We have had to wait for so-called Gretna rescue plans to run their course, but they were never going to stack up. How could a place no bigger than Brechin operate a full-time football club with a £40,000-a-week wage bill?
"

Mortonjag predicted Gretna's ruin confidently over three years ago.

People should listen to Mortonjag and not mock him.

People who attempt to mock Mortonjag inevitably lose face.

People who attempt to mock Mortonjag sometimes lose lots of LUVLY MUNNY ! cool.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-04 04:40:08
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 3 2008, 10:00 PM) [snapback]455967[/snapback]
laugh.gif busy man me, repling to the jag is a full time job laugh.gif

Oh-the grumbles and grice of today's weans!

When I was your age I had seven paper rounds netting me three pounds ten a week and still had time to write a regular article for the 'Daily Worker' and nothing.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 04:45:07
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 3 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]455686[/snapback]
Yeah I thought that's what would happen...!

I think it's less of a breeding ground than it used to be.

Junior football's good entertainment. I live in the comfort of knowing that if the unthinkable happened I'd start supporting Pollok to whose ground I can walk in less than five minutes.

Indeed I'd visit their Social Club which is even closer, if I wasn't a recluse and troublemaker.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 04:53:11
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 3 2008, 05:37 PM) [snapback]455831[/snapback]
Or...crisis loans for new beds or cookers could drop a lot in Inverclyde laugh.gif

Somebody once chucked a cooker out of a high flat in Glasgow followed by himself. There was a bit of a kerfuffle for a while. The cooker was damaged beyond redemption.
I believe it was the result of a lovers' tiff and her bad cooking.

Sad when you consider the cost of white goods those days.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 04:57:22
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 3 2008, 08:21 PM) [snapback]455912[/snapback]
That's too brassy MJ. Not subtle enough tongue.gif

I actually like the last couplet Spurtle! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-04 05:01:19
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jun 3 2008, 06:38 PM) [snapback]455856[/snapback]
Yes, that was a funny little addition.

All I'm saying is that I have been made aware of us going for someone who is definately a better target than Arbuckle. I'm not sure how feasible it would be to bring the player to Cappielow, but while he is not a superstar, he is someone who I would imagine everybody would be impressed with. And my source is not the "Morton physio" or "not the Morton physio, but the physio's dad's brother's pet dog Rex's uncle."

Don't trust a single miaow you hear from that rag tailed feline.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 05:10:52
QUOTE(Jim McColl @ Jun 3 2008, 10:12 PM) [snapback]455975[/snapback]
At least you were getting an income. sad.gif


I take it you don't like sweeties then!


Apology accepted. We could have a whole new debate about the concept and practice of someone being "THE" fan's representative on the board but that might be for another day. Its the close season, we seem to be making some reasonable signings. Time for a bit of a rest.

I wish you could have replaced that with 'many', and 'good'!



The last thing anybody on the Trust board would claim would be that we were good at communicating.



And the last thing this message board needs is for you and Stuart and Trust member et al to disappear again. It's good to talk as that daft burd used to say-talking of which, give my regards to the backroom girls next time you see them! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-04 05:16:32 Nothing yet-I smell a rat! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-04 05:32:37
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jun 3 2008, 07:48 PM) [snapback]455895[/snapback]
I'm not being facetious, but why don't you email the club, phone them, or write a letter asking. For me, he is just another board member and I have no more knowledge of what he does than what was written in the press at the time of his appointment. However, when I don't know the answer to a question, I ask the person most likely to give the most accurate and correct answer. In this case, Mr Donald.

Send him an email
asking for a quick summary of his role and if he gets back to you then you have done well, if he doesn't, you are no worse off.

May I have his personal e-mail address?
mortonjag 2008-06-04 05:46:24
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 3 2008, 08:27 PM) [snapback]455914[/snapback]
so, you could try the following:
1) ask mr donald
2) become a shareholder and attend a meeting (ooer missus). ask your question as a shareholder
3) bleat on a messageboard

i would start at the top of the list

Mr Donald would surely reply to an eminent Glasgow Physician-Trumpet.Please forward his contact details, and I'll get on to his case without further ado. I'm NOT being facetious.

QUOTE(Cawston @ Jun 3 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]455919[/snapback]
Carried out more like tongue.gif
It was interesting that Davie Irons took time out to specifically mention him after the Thistle, he's obviously playing an active role at the club.



The share issue opens some big questions as well. £800K of shares with the Raes taking £200K max, will Donald pick up the rest and cement his position at Cappielow?



It was indeed, and was picked up on by those who ARE genuinely interested in this issue and in the future of the club. Word on the street is that the old Shooglemeister was none too chuffed that some of his thunder had been stolen! tongue.gif


QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 3 2008, 08:58 PM) [snapback]455929[/snapback]
Tried that 3 weeks ago , when the End of Pro youth thread was running . Not a jot , explained that I had asked questions at the Q+A , so I thought the club would at least acknowledge the recieving of my concerns .

It's astonishing that their failure to respond to your questions and MANY OTHERS is totally ignored by folk who are only on this board to stir up trouble Chris! wink.gif

QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 3 2008, 10:42 PM) [snapback]455986[/snapback]
£750K of shares - and why do you think that the Raes will only take £200K max?

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You really can't resist it big ears, and you and the master weren't even at the EGM where the nature and purpose of the new share issue was pretty clearly spelled out. You don't know how many shares Mortonjag's just about to scoop up. Are Mortonjag and Alistair Donald secretly in cahoots. Could Mortonjag and Alistair Donald be the same person?

BTW I've got a mate at Blochairn who does a good line in class c carrots-Shoogly might be interested.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 06:04:38
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Jun 3 2008, 03:25 PM) [snapback]455800[/snapback]
Youth coaches for next season are already known Jamie told 3-4 months ago he would not be taking the youth Team.With all the threads going about the youth set up thought you would have seen who was taking the youth teams

He's only interested in the sound of his own voice.

QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 4 2008, 12:37 AM) [snapback]456016[/snapback]
I totally agree when it's players under 30 who are still young boys who haven't had much of a career themselves and are likely to want to move on. I think it's a wee bit different when the guy is over 30, has a wealth of experience to pass on and looking to move into coaching when he retires, possibly at the end of his contract with the club.

As long as McManus takes it serious, which I think he will, I think his appointment to the Under 19s is a positive move.

Precisely-young enough to relate to and be related to by teenagers, but the wearer of many tee shirts. A 'makes sense' signing for DI.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 06:11:14
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jun 3 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]455916[/snapback]
Morton could do a lot worse than looking to the Caribbean for talent. They have excellent grass roots and the guys are generally very strong and very fast. The only problem is the winter weather where they'd probably ice up and freeze on the Cappielow pitch. I've been back a year and the winter here was unbearable and I was only away for three years, god knows how a Trini goalie will feel.


Warm and cuddly I guess.


QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 3 2008, 09:50 PM) [snapback]455960[/snapback]
My mate just told me his missus has gone on holiday to the Caribbean. "Jamaica?" I enquired...



FFS not a Smiley in response-must be the way you tell them! wink.gif

ORRRRRRRRR-wait-could it be that most of our posters are thick humourless dolts?
mortonjag 2008-06-04 06:13:45
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jun 4 2008, 06:02 AM) [snapback]456036[/snapback]
That was a genius idea in theory. Just a shame Claude Anelka was at the head of it.

See you've slopped out already! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-04 06:29:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 4 2008, 05:04 AM) [snapback]456031[/snapback]
If only MortonJag had been born in the United States, the world would be about to become a paradise.

Forget JFK's first 100 days.

Just imagine what MortonJag could achieve in 100 days in the White House.

IRAQ - fixed

IRAN - fixed

GLOBAL WARMING - fixed

RECORD OIL PRICES - fixed

If only the early US politicans had the same foresight that MortonJag has.

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You know that and Mortonjag knows that Newt, but others still mock.

Mortonjag confidently predicted the ultimate demise of St James of the immaculate gameplan too!

The future of the Shoogly Show is a wee bit harder to call. Let's just say that the apparent silence of Alistair Donald allied to success which makes 'Shoogly's Sweeties' microscopic, augurs well for the club in financial terms at least.

Last night Alistair told me that as I climbed up the stair, I saw a man who wasn't there.

He wasn't there again today....I wish that man would go away.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 06:33:01
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 3 2008, 07:41 PM) [snapback]455891[/snapback]
Moray BTW, and thank you for the cream

All teuchters are the same to me Trumpet-is your dick less sick now?
mortonjag 2008-06-04 06:35:25
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 3 2008, 08:09 PM) [snapback]455908[/snapback]
isn't it nice when you can have it both ways unsure.gif

....indeed, and the occasional coo puts the icing on the cake.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 06:57:25
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 3 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]455936[/snapback]
Hey...anyone who knows me will tell you I'm an emotional guy. I love my wife and family. I just can't stand modernity, that's all..... ohmy.gif

You sound like a lovely personable and wise man.

I can't stand modernity either-I hate old buffoons in charge of football clubs- middle aged chancers in charge of governments distress me, but my biggest hate of all is folk who are up their own arses.

Many can be spotted on a daily browse of this message board-most are cruel to this poster.

It took Mortonjag years to fully accept and understand his unsurpassed brilliance and scintillating wit.

He used to feign humility, not totally convinced of his immutable perfection, but gradual acceptance of that reality endowed him with a serenity and blissful contentment rarely surpassed in the history of mankind.

Power to your elbow Mr McArthur-stand up for your beliefs-don't let those sh1t covered, shell suited, slevering serpentine slobs who infest Holyrood, County Buildings, and Kelvingrove Park deflect you from the pursuit of Godliness.

Practice makes perfect. Mortonjag is living evidence.

Munx and Fing agree.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 07:01:10
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 4 2008, 06:50 AM) [snapback]456046[/snapback]
A monkey and a flea and three blind mice
Sat on a kerbstone shooting dice
The monkey did a flip and fell on the flea
The flea said, "Whoops, there's a monkey on me"

On the money mate!

By the way-Munx is my son.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 07:14:46
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jun 3 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]455945[/snapback]
Your passions are overflowing DM, one minute your dribbling over Kirsty Young, the next your having a wet dream about some old bikes........wait a minute, it's the same fantasy huh.gif

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It amuses me reading about those who cycle in the city-don't get me wrong-I love cycling, and toured Scotland as a youngster, but City cyclists fall into three groups:

Careful, courteous, and only potentially suicidal

Lazy, slapdash, and accidents waiting to happen

Big headed fuds who deserve to be knocked off their apparently inviolable armoured chargers.

This last group is the absolute embodiment of arrogance and 'evil motorist' paranoia-so far I have only managed to main forty three but I intend to keep trying once I get the next court case out of the road.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 07:18:35
QUOTE(RankinBorn75 @ Jun 3 2008, 10:44 AM) [snapback]455643[/snapback]
Yeah and she was to live with her grandmother there was a girl called Clara in a wheelchair .. still would have got it though ...

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mortonjag 2008-06-04 07:26:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 4 2008, 06:37 AM) [snapback]456044[/snapback]
Hindsight Is A Wonderful Thing, For those without Mortonjag's vision

For those of us without Mortonjag's vision, what is your vision for 2008/2009 please seer ?

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I see an old man on a piece of grass-there's something in his hand-it's becoming clearer-yes it's a microphone-he's speaking into it-saying 'my palm has been lined with silver' and ---it get's vague-wait---a younger man approaches--he's saying something like-you'll never get another-------drat-I've lost it Newt.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 07:30:38
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 4 2008, 07:05 AM) [snapback]456049[/snapback]
I thought you was his father.

He is my son and heir-fing is his adoptive brother.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 07:32:03
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 4 2008, 07:07 AM) [snapback]456050[/snapback]
Austrian "dungeon monster" Josef Fritzl has reportedly been sent hundreds of love letters from lonely women offering him romance and understanding.
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FREAKS! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-04 07:34:51
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 4 2008, 07:18 AM) [snapback]456057[/snapback]
did you mean to maim them ?

as an alternative to ambulance chasing ?

I maimed most of them just because I don't like their attitude.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 07:47:59
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jun 3 2008, 09:41 PM) [snapback]455955[/snapback]
If they threatened legal action and C4 pulled it, then I think perhaps it's more to do with the programme makers having something to hide. Not the first time producers have made "interesting" documentaries.

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QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 3 2008, 09:56 PM) [snapback]455963[/snapback]
What does Spammer mean blink.gif unsure.gif

It means that Trumpet's grooming you-hopefully I'll now get out of his evil clutches! wink.gif

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 3 2008, 10:11 PM) [snapback]455972[/snapback]
Very interesting thread and the reactions.

Wonder if any the folk who signed the petition own anything manufactured in China?

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Jewel morality eh-every one a f*ckin gem!


Our society gets wimpier by the minute-next we'll be sending our NHS lock stock and barrel (take Sturgeon PLEASE) to Outer Mungrowlia and going back to nature for herbal cures.

I'm more interested in sweat shops in our own country where we SHOULD be doing something about it but actually don't give a Fudgy Wudgy! wink.gif wink.gif wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-04 07:56:10 It sounds like he was pretty active even well into his seventies, despite suffering from diabetes.

A legend who has outlasted his peers, and died at the age of eighty.

Well done that man! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-04 07:58:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 4 2008, 07:42 AM) [snapback]456064[/snapback]
It seems that they will have artificial assistance in rubbing their balls at Trent Bridge.
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=574375

How is the natural method defined?
mortonjag 2008-06-04 08:14:33 Ron MacGregor was in the Record today complaining about the fact that no-one will congratulate Gretna or recognize their amazing achievements.

MacGregor and Rae-peas in a pod. Now Rae at Dumfries-he's seventy years of age and not even slightly demented.


QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 3 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]455906[/snapback]
He left hospital on the 22nd February - that's more than 3 months ago - and I would be extremely surprised if he's in anything but his "normal" state of health. It suits him to leave the impression that he is on his last legs because that way he gets left alone. Until apparently the Daily Mail went to see him - haven't seen the article but I heard they were told in no uncertain terms to go away, or words to that effect. And allegedly someone told the reporter "he doesn't give a sh1t about Gretna". Class, eh?



I cannot understand the apparently wimpish impotence of those whom Pony Tail has well and truly f*cked. There must be scores of folk who really want to hurt him, and there ARE ways and means. If he had been law abiding I'd be encouraging folk to behave similarly.

QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 3 2008, 08:21 PM) [snapback]455913[/snapback]
but you've not even reached 20000 laugh.gif

come on, pull your finger out

Quality in quantity Trumpet-you just stick to your wee bugle.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 08:34:46
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 4 2008, 08:00 AM) [snapback]456072[/snapback]
His peers were Chuck Berry and Little Richard both of whom are still alive.

I was talking statistically-life expectancy style. It's amazing that those guys you mention just seem to go on and on.

I noticed your initial comment about the 'number of music threads'.

The truth is that the forum is infected with the plastic crap of the younger generation.(The under fifties), with very little diversity of opinion. I enjoy music in the same way as art-if it floats my boat, I don't give a toss who 'made' it. Van Morrison in the car-Handel in the lavvy-the Kooks in the kitchen, Ikea pictures on the walls, etc. My posh brother in Wemyss Bay has some JoLoMo stuff-that guy-the latter needs his effin eyes tested!

'What are you listening to' is BY FAR the most inane and consequently popular thread ever.

It's just a bloody ego trips for the weans.

Three or four times I've incorporated a totally fake song and artist to 'test the water' and despite the rage for 'hitting' the Jag, they've all been too busy slevering over their keyboards-desperate to impress the rest with their particular brand of mass produced keech.

And a Be-Bop-A-Lula morning to you Mr McArthur-I'm off for one.

mortonjag 2008-06-04 08:50:06
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 4 2008, 08:23 AM) [snapback]456078[/snapback]
Ah, so Capitanus' real name is Paul. Now, there was someone of that name who seemed to have an irrational dislike of me on this board a few years ago. Maybe it's the same person.

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Nah-only joking Adonis.

The said Caputupanus/Paul/ is not really a bad chap. He's just got this wee thing about folk with academic or financial success.

Some describe Paul's type as having chips on their shoulders, but that is not always the case-indeed I believe it is often secret admiration which fuels the pens of those 'working class heroes' of our now classless society.

Jimmy Reid and Tommy Sheridan spring to mind, as does every other Union Leader who sold the common 5/8ths down the river for the price of wealth and comfort-OR a move into the scummery of politics.

When Caputupanus-who's a clever wee lad- grows up to be a big boy and achieves his own goals in life, he'll less resent the doctors who fixed the leg he shattered when he fell pished at the fitba and unsuccessfully tried to sue the Club despite it's brand new safety certificate.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 08:56:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 4 2008, 08:36 AM) [snapback]456082[/snapback]
an incredible £170 Billion
would that be different to an ordinary or standard £170 Billion ?

Colkitto, have the SNP TOTALLY committed to the establishment of such a fund following independence ?

I have been a supporter of the SNP since 1956 (Sam Shields was my grandfather) but, sadly, politicians are politicians.
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True

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 4 2008, 08:53 AM) [snapback]456088[/snapback]
Aye they would Newton. The Norwegian oil fund was only started just over 10 years ago and has amassed that incredible amount in that short time. Norway by 2010 will have an oil fund in excess of £250 Billion !
The Norwegians have safeguarded their financial future, and built an economy that for several years in a row puts them at the top of the UN's quality of life league table

We are only at the half way point of barrels recovered from the North Sea. We must follow the successful example set by Norway.
But the unionists don't want this for Scotland.......WHY ?



Who are those creatures Spurtle?

Are you not in the Jail today btw?
mortonjag 2008-06-04 08:59:45
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 4 2008, 08:18 AM) [snapback]456075[/snapback]
errm no - if you were indeed the same person then it means all of the comments about being an eminent Glasgow Physician would in fact be a load of rubbish... rolleyes.gif tongue.gif

Sometimes you truly confound me with logic.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 09:02:17
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jun 4 2008, 07:15 AM) [snapback]456055[/snapback]
Oh alright then. "No, she went of her own accord"

You forgot the


BOOM F*CKIN' BOOM


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mortonjag 2008-06-04 09:08:23
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 4 2008, 08:47 AM) [snapback]456085[/snapback]
Use the attachment facility underneath the posting window when in Add Reply. Select the file with the Browse button, then when the file path is in the box, press the UPLOAD button to attach the picture to your next post.

Aye-I've managed to post photos before but it won't let me browse my files-it wants an 'URL'-what does that mean?
mortonjag 2008-06-04 09:29:38
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 4 2008, 09:10 AM) [snapback]456096[/snapback]
Flattery will get you nowhere...

That's what you said before-it wasn't flattery-it was amazement!
mortonjag 2008-06-04 09:32:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 4 2008, 08:22 AM) [snapback]456076[/snapback]
you did ask, mate ...
(a) Any fielder may
(i) polish the ball provided that no artificial substance is used and that such polishing wastes no time.
(ii) remove mud from the ball under the supervision of the umpire.
(iii) dry a wet ball on a towel.

(cool.gif It is unfair for anyone to rub the ball on the ground for any reason, interfere with any of the seams or the surface of the ball, use any implement, or take any other action whatsoever which is likely to alter the condition of the ball, except as permitted in (a) above.

© The umpires shall make frequent and irregular inspections of the ball.

(d) In the event of any fielder changing the condition of the ball unfairly, as set out in (cool.gif above, the umpires after consultation shall
(i) change the ball forthwith. It shall be for the umpires to decide on the replacement ball, which shall, in their opinion, have had wear comparable with that which the previous ball had received immediately prior to the contravention.
(ii) inform the batsmen that the ball has been changed.
(iii) award 5 penalty runs to the batting side. See 17 below.
(iv) inform the captain of the fielding side that the reason for the action was the unfair interference with the ball.
(v) inform the captain of the batting side as soon as practicable of what has occurred.
(vi) report the occurrence as soon as possible to the Executive of the fielding side and any Governing Body responsible for the match, who shall take such action as is considered appropriate against the captain and team concerned.

(e) If there is any further instance of unfairly changing the condition of the ball in that innings, the umpires after consultation shall
(i) repeat the procedure in (d)(i), (ii) and (iii) above.
(ii) inform the captain of the fielding side of the reason for the action taken and direct him to take off forthwith the bowler who delivered the immediately preceding ball. The bowler thus taken off shall not be allowed to bowl again in that innings.
(iii) inform the captain of the batting side as soon as practicable of what has occurred.
(iv) report this further occurrence as soon as possible to the Executive of the fielding side and any Governing Body responsible for the match, who shall take such action as is considered appropriate against the captain and team concerned.

......but what if both are muddy?
mortonjag 2008-06-04 09:48:05
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 4 2008, 09:12 AM) [snapback]456097[/snapback]
No idea mate, but if you do manage to findf a cheap one, look around to see if they have a second one with no brakes and throw MJ on it down a steep hill.

Jesus h f***ing christ, every f***ing thread since f*** knows what time this morning hijacked.
Ernie, c'mon to f***

You on Hyper pill's or something
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Hold on a minute Sir and hark to me-you're beginning to sound a wee bit serious about this.

Mortonjag probably starts more serious threads than any other poster and NEVER complains when they are 'hi-jacked'-not sure EXACTLY what that's meant to mean-but as often as not they are deliberately twisted, and the usual 'abuse the Jag' clowns make their sad comments which sometimes are abusive to the level of 'I hope you die a slow and painful death'.

Furthermore, to the great amusement of certain posters, Mortonjag's identity was bloody well hi-jacked a month ago. Tontastic said he'd investigate and I've had no explanation.

You are a grown up man with a responsible job, a partner, and a family-not a cyber clype Gibby.

Live and let live-and don't forget the wee huff button if all else fails.

Oh-and those hyper pills-nope-I didn't realise you were also wanting to legislate about the correct times to be posting! laugh.gif

Early to bed and early to rise makes a man healthy wealthy and WISE!

Try it-it works for me!

mortonjag 2008-06-04 11:48:27
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jun 4 2008, 09:21 AM) [snapback]456098[/snapback]
'What are you listening to' is BY FAR the most inane and consequently popular thread ever.

It's just a bloody ego trips for the weans.

Three or four times I've incorporated a totally fake song and artist to 'test the water' and despite the rage for 'hitting' the Jag, they've all been too busy slevering over their keyboards-desperate to impress the rest with their particular brand of mass produced keech.

[attachment=4044:fishing.jpg]
Doctor Doom can't see the new venture taking of when your bait is just not up to scratch

Don't be silly I wasn't fishing-I meant every word of it.

'What are you listening to' caters for the 'follow my leader over the gangplank' mentality-it's even too daft for sheep.

I've noticed time after time that posters pay absolutely no heed to the previous input-it's all about image projection-I'm listening to the phrumpooglies-and I'm sure f*ckin with it-don't you think--and of course the next poster hasn't even read that cos he thinks the brodelglankz are better! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-04 11:54:24
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jun 4 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]456117[/snapback]
They're maybe trying to tell you something, MJ. tongue.gif

To be honest I don't think they're that well organised, and my brother and I are not renewing anyway!

Mind you it really WOULD be funny if they are that petty! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-04 12:00:53
QUOTE(cmdc @ Jun 4 2008, 09:54 AM) [snapback]456108[/snapback]
I still think you are overestimating the relative value of replacing the sponsor. Shirt and pitchside sponsorship is not a terribly easy thing to find in Inverclyde...Buchanan's/Golden Casket/Millions are big local brands, and for what the Rae's put in to the club, advertising their product is probably not too much of a concession...especially when Morton's viability is largely tied to the success of that business (and from the outside looking in, it does seem to be a fairly successful business). If, however, there was a whopping offer to take over the sponsorship, which was stubbornly refused, then that would be another matter, but given the relatively poor exposure given to the SFL, which itself struggled to find a sponsor, I would be pretty surprised if such an offer were to come along anytime soon. This is educated guesswork by the way, so if anyone has concrete evidence of this kind of offer being refused, I defer!

I've already said that sponsorship should only be switched if it will generate a significantly bigger income.I believe it can, and also believe that the highlighted text is largely a myth perpetuated by The current Club owners for reasons best known to themselves.

QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 4 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]456125[/snapback]
from GMFC accounts, £24K for shirt sponsorship - going rate in 1st division ???

It's not the going rate you should be looking at-it 's the potential market and that is a function of fanbase. We could do MUCH better IMO.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 12:04:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 4 2008, 09:35 AM) [snapback]456102[/snapback]
nae worries, mortonjag - as long as the umpire (or more correctly, one of the umpires) has his eye on them.

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If I had muddy balls I'd not be wanting umpires inspecting them.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 12:08:23
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 4 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]456109[/snapback]
Davie McArthur hates people referring to themselves in the third person.

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QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 4 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]456110[/snapback]
f*** me this Rod works tongue.gif

Never a bad word to say about ye in the past have i rolleyes.gif

Just wanted to see what the reaction would be to my previous post and try the new Rod wink.gif

And i knew that the mentioning of early morning posts would get your attention.

Happy Days wink.gif

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QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 4 2008, 10:53 AM) [snapback]456124[/snapback]
Hi mate. I take it you are talking about the guy from Lochwinnoch. Is that the hire place down by Castle Semple Loch. If so might take a trip there at the weekend. Thanks for the info.
Mate in work has his bike in today and it's a Stone River. Absolute belter.
Good point. Problem is i am skint just now. Looking to spend about £100-£120 tops i am afraid. So a couple of decent bikes in Halfords last week around my price range.
I still have some gear at my folks from my cycling days of old. Some of it still fits strangely enough. It does cost a bit to get all the bits 'n' bobs but it's worth it.
I know mate. Hijacking threads and totally changing the direction of them is my forte tongue.gif MJ trained me well laugh.gif

P.S. Hows the arm mate?

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mortonjag 2008-06-04 12:11:35 I never fancied this programme and the discovery that Mr Sugar perches on a high chair was the straw which broke de camel's back.

What is it with those little ones?
mortonjag 2008-06-04 12:13:35
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 4 2008, 11:22 AM) [snapback]456131[/snapback]
Oil reserves 'will last decades'

The North Sea has almost as much oil left as has already been extracted, a BBC Scotland investigation has been told.
Experts believe between 25 and 30 billion barrels could still be recovered over the next 40 years.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7435016.stm

Excellent-Mortonjag won't.
mortonjag 2008-06-09 13:11:22 Weer bak-hee tuke uz two sane tandruse phorrah phew daze.

Eye ixpekt heel bee uptu hys nawnsinse kwite sune sew eye fot eye shood warren ewe ol



(sined Munx)

pee ess-a noat phawr deego an poart tawn-eye am pritty shooer hee shagda feemail-inn thi carry vanne-itt waws bowencing uppe an dowen an fing sez hee herd skweels- butte hee denise itt vigrislie
mortonjag 2008-06-09 13:51:55
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 9 2008, 01:37 PM) [snapback]457874[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif

eye amm sew gladde ewe phynde it phunny two-eye fawt foke wood maika fule oph mee lyke thai doo wif hymn.

thi hole eye deer oph mye dadde scroo wing ennyfing letta owen ah reel feemail wazza joak untyl yisturdai aphturnune-

whawtah chainge inn hymn---heze nivir stopt smylynge awl dai-an ewe shood hav scene hur two-shee hadde mawnstris titz an kwite ah nyse bumme.

Fing laffed att hur woodin legge whitch eye fink iz raphur crule.
mortonjag 2008-06-09 15:27:02
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 9 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]457895[/snapback]
laugh.gif Glad to see the good doc is enjoying himself wink.gif



Gude dock mye baksyde weegy-eye mite az wel blo thi whissel awn hymn wunce an fawrawl-heze notta dawktur-heeza belle gin dworph wipha chippe awn hys showldir-heze bean masky raiding azza medsin manne whenne heze reely jista kowboye


ennywaze eye will haphtu dizzy peer prawn toe awr heel fynde owt eye hav bean awn an awl helwil brake lewse.

fanx phawr listnyng


(sined Munx) xx
mortonjag 2008-06-09 16:08:03
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 9 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]457914[/snapback]
You stated that you did not want Scotland dominated by a home counties agenda, a reasonable point to make, economic power is most often centralised, in Scotland the economic power in the central belt would dictate that Border and Highland interests would be subordinated to the interests of the central belt.
Troll?
This is a troll
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDThe one eyed man is King in the country of the blind.
mortonjag 2008-06-09 16:10:06
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 9 2008, 03:33 PM) [snapback]457908[/snapback]
Its gone very quiet! Not even a decent rumour floating about. To be fair, its not obviosu that many clubs are doing much just now either except for Dundee and Ross County. When are we likely to see our promised Goallie and striker?

Oh ye of little faith.
mortonjag 2008-06-09 16:26:09 Somebody, it would seem, has hi-jacked Mortonjag's identity AGAIN. The Monkey has been thoroughly interrogated and flatly denies all responsibility for those scurrilous allegations.

Moreover, some saddo has been spying on Mortonjag-he was indeed away at a caravan in St Andrews for a few days-the rest is a tissue of lies, and he needs deego and port-ton to believe that.

Furthermore, he did not like the bit about 'belle gin dworphs'-somebody is clearly trying to stir up a hornet's nest.

Mortonjag was, is, and always will be an energetic creature, but stops short at shagging folk with prosthetic limbs.

Doubtless some sad poster will attempt to ridicule this earnest disclaimer- Mortonjag has come to expect disrespectful mince from the losers who populate those forums.

That is not specifically aimed at Professor Piehole.
mortonjag 2008-06-09 16:32:53 Mortonjag always purchases a 'take away' curry from the Turban Tandoori in Giffnock on a Saturday evening.

That is all.
mortonjag 2008-06-09 16:39:06
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 9 2008, 04:29 PM) [snapback]457929[/snapback]
you gave me a headache trying to read that, i hope you can prescribe with some pills and a little TLC to make me feel better. smile.gif


I have to confess it was a damned good attempt to copy Munx's style, but there were a couple of dead give aways. 'Woodin legge' for example instead of gammy legge.


QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 9 2008, 04:30 PM) [snapback]457930[/snapback]
[attachment=4069:Spoon.jpg]

laugh.gif laugh.gif

I know Weegie-Munx and I would love to identify the owner of that woodin spune.
mortonjag 2008-06-09 16:49:32
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 8 2008, 11:30 AM) [snapback]457539[/snapback]
Just back from the States yesterday so just catching up.
I have tears dripping down my face, honestly - tears dripping.
Easily one of the best threads in ages. Let me summarise.

An allegedly inflammatory article about us Scots was posted. It incorrectly attributed anti-Scottish feelings to a senior politician. That same politician has taken the time to answer one of this message board's more discerning visitors with a prompt and accurate summation of what he really said. So no real story at all.

Geordie hates MJ. Geordie hates Tom. Tom disnae care. MJ is disdainful of pretty much everybody so he really disnae care. Geordie, despite protestations to the contrary is not a dwarf, or a midget. He is kinda small though. Paul is now an ardent Orangeman if rumpurs are to be believed. Paul disnae care cos he's one of the few who actually treat MJ and Tom the way he likes - either sit up and take notice or hit back with abuse/scorn/ridicule/facts/apathy (delete as appropriate). Some combination of Geordie/Andy and anybody else that didn't object to Paul's description of Keith V are closet racists if Tom's to be believed. On next week's episode of Soap .........

Most importantly - this article, and about another five or six I've just caught up on, are further examples of the Nationalist rhetoric that's turning off the "don't knows" in droves. Why, I'd be for self determination and they're starting to make me think twice. So this is your democracy - be silent or agree with me.

As I said the first Nationalist that takes part in an informed debate on here about health, education, taxation, infrastructure, defence, welfare etc etc will have my undying respect and a healthy sparring partner for his/her corner.

Till then - I'll just keep reading these and entertaining myself - oh, and to all combatants on this thread, "bravo, encore une fois".

TonInDublin


It's really very difficult to know how to describe him now without hurting his feelings. May I propose 'Our fellow fan in Brussels, who is of a certain height'?


QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 8 2008, 11:50 AM) [snapback]457541[/snapback]
That's an awful thing to say Johnny Boy, I don't hate anyone on here.

They wouldn't be top of my 'guys I'd like to have a beer with' list, that's true, but I certainly don't hate them.

And you don't know me and you've never even met me, therefore you're not qualified to comment on my medical condition. tongue.gif

Also, the 'anti-Scottish' quotes were from Steven Ladyman and not Kieth Vaz, although the article did imply that Vaz wanted Jack Straw appointed as Deputy Prime Minister because he's English - which Vaz denied was the case.

But I think Steven Ladyman's quotes could reasonably be called 'anti-Scottish'.



Nobody accorded TiD the same courtesy when he was concerned about having a BIG prostate-or should that be 'a prostate of a certain size'?
mortonjag 2008-06-09 16:52:35 Animal from the Muppet Show is far and away the drummer who has entertained me most over the years.
mortonjag 2008-06-09 16:59:53
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 9 2008, 04:50 PM) [snapback]457940[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Imagine losing Scotland from the UK under the watch of a Tory government ohmy.gif

You must be shaking in you're shoes at the prospect Tom tongue.gif

While you're on Spurtle, I spoke to an experienced teacher yesterday-NOT Mr Bam!

I asked an open question- what do you think of the S.N.P. after a year in power. Her face screwed up in anger-'Bigger class sizes and a significant reduction in staffing in OUR department (English in Stirling BTW).

That came straight from the horse's mouth. I always listen to folk at the coal face. It's much more revealing than relying on the Media, though I do appreciate that some folk require significant spin to make things fit their ideals.
mortonjag 2008-06-09 17:04:42
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 9 2008, 04:45 PM) [snapback]457936[/snapback]
You mean you couldn't understand it?? unsure.gif rolleyes.gif

Heze ah byt gellus oph mye munky-phatzol.
mortonjag 2008-06-09 17:13:43 A serious question. Many folk have excellent business ideas but just can't get the start up cash for numerous reasons.

WDE, for example, has been talking about a potential venture in recent weeks.

I'm looking for an idea which wouldn't involve any 'unsociable hours'-possibly even one which would involve mainly working from home.

Most of all I'm interested in something that's either completely new or has just 'taken off' and looks good.

Any attempt to hi-jack this thread will be dealt with by fing.
mortonjag 2008-06-09 17:27:22
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Jun 7 2008, 04:26 AM) [snapback]457251[/snapback]
Decent enough guy with very nice parents, hope he can sort himself out -shows you that the drugs can f*** any family. Would be a good gesture if Morton did something to support a drugs charity type thing!


f***in' miracle!


QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 7 2008, 08:29 AM) [snapback]457263[/snapback]
If I lost a bird to Nacho Novo I'd probably get right on the drugs as well!


You'd need to get one first piehole! laugh.gif


QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jun 8 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]457578[/snapback]
I don't think it is Novo's fault that Matheson ended up on drugs, what a load of crap. Stealing his girlfriend and getting him wound up the way he did is a pretty low thing to do to a so called friend, absolutely. But betrayal in that way happens to other people and they don't all end up turning to Class A drugs, he would have got into it some other way. To blame that particular weakness on Novo is just dumb.

I know Matheson comes from a good family, and everyone deserves a second chance, but to blame an addiction on somebody who nicked his girlfriend a few years ago now? Ridiculous.


Spot on.


QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 8 2008, 04:56 PM) [snapback]457648[/snapback]
Hmm, the guy's just an ordinary bloke. Don't really think he'd appreciate being the subject of a debate on a football messageboard.

Just my opinion though.


He might appreciate a bit of understanding Boozie-the boy's clearly got a problem and it's time folk opened their bloody eyes to addictive ILLNESS.


QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 9 2008, 04:49 PM) [snapback]457938[/snapback]
You guys just took the words out of my mouth.
Ross is well known in the area and this thread's a bit unsavoury, not the story, it's happened, just the dissecting of it and, yeah as said, it's like a debate or something?


As I commented to BH-threads like this will always be unsavoury so long as folk can't grasp the concept of addiction as an illness.

For what it's worth, it's daft blaming an ILLNESS on the fact that somebody 'stole your bird', though stressful life events can often be pinpointed as trigger factors for full blown addictive behaviour.
mortonjag 2008-06-09 17:32:44
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 9 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]457956[/snapback]
She is probably a Labour party member or voter.... rolleyes.gif

She is my daughter in law, and believe it or not, has voted S.N.P. several times in the past-mainly because 'I'd NEVER vote Tory or Labour'!!!!! wink.gif

If you like I can find out the full details, though I suspect some of our resident schoolteachers may be seeing a mirror of her experience
mortonjag 2008-06-09 17:47:28
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 9 2008, 05:41 PM) [snapback]457959[/snapback]
If neither of you know then it must surely have been Fing wink.gif

fing's not arrived back from St Andrews-he's on the Kawasaki-could he have logged on to another computer and done such mischief-I know he's on a bit of a cloud nine after a very successful 'hit' on the 'Old Course', but I doubt he'd stoop so low Puggs.

Personally I think it was Professor Piehole on the water bed with an old 'Wee Red Book'.
mortonjag 2008-06-09 17:56:35
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 9 2008, 05:34 PM) [snapback]457958[/snapback]
I work with independent retailers mainly although I have managed a couple of national accounts over the years and I believe that it's not the idea but the delivery that brings in the cash.

Ideas we've had 'em since Eve first met Adam
But take it from me execution's the key.

Thanks Davie-I guess that's true. Assuming, however, that the delivery side of things is already proven, some ideas are surely much more attractive that others.

No point in investing cash in a hugely competitive and relatively saturated market, and of course, we're in the jaws of a credit squeeze. Any ideas for profiting from a credit squeeze?

Oh and a point of correction-Eve didn't meet Adam-she evolved from him-OK God got it done ultra quick, but it was still a case of him saying-now go and f*ck yourself.

Pity about that serpent mind you-I can hear it hiss as I type.
mortonjag 2008-06-09 18:04:07
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 9 2008, 05:47 PM) [snapback]457962[/snapback]
Where have you been recently?

If I tell you, please don't spread it!

The story is that we nipped over to St Andrews for a few days' sunshine, but in truth I had a highly confidential top secret coded message from Mr Rae last week.

I finally managed to decipher after hours of effort, the simple line-'Go to f*ck'. Douglas never let's one down-I'd have said 'get tae'.

Anyway-I always have a f*ckin' good time in the East Neuk, so Dougie's prompt was just the ticket!
mortonjag 2008-06-09 18:12:18
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 9 2008, 06:02 PM) [snapback]457971[/snapback]
I need an updated list of your names for everyone...is that piehutt?

One and the same- a true gentleman in reality I'm led to believe-there again so is Mortonjag! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-09 18:45:10
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 9 2008, 06:14 PM) [snapback]457977[/snapback]
Hmmm. Very one dimensional too, though MJ,



unsure.gif I've got an 'animal' puppet at home-I love that guy so much I once asked Terry's if they could tattoo one on my arse but the price was outrageous, and I settled for a wee saltire instead!

QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 9 2008, 06:20 PM) [snapback]457981[/snapback]
The real skill in a drummer is how well he fits into a band. Some of the drum solos listed show enormous technique but no soul. The best drummer depends on the type of music you are listening to. If you like rock try this Ginger Baker solo on the Cream reunion with Clapton and Bruce.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVqvNKsPKUM

If you like Jazz/Big Band how about Gene Krupa or Buddy Rich? See

http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/buddyrichkrupabattle.html


That's very true, and none so great as Animal IMHO.
mortonjag 2008-06-09 18:51:23
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 9 2008, 06:16 PM) [snapback]457978[/snapback]
I don't want to comment on addiction or illness.

I'm commenting on picking through a local guys life and offering up opinions on it like it's some sort of disertation.

Would you prefer folks' opinions to be muffled?
mortonjag 2008-06-09 19:02:51
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 9 2008, 06:56 PM) [snapback]457993[/snapback]
ae.

Didn't you mean 'Yours aye' darling?
mortonjag 2008-06-10 05:05:16
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 9 2008, 07:59 PM) [snapback]458032[/snapback]
Awayeauld barsteward. Whitthefukinhell war ye daen in pruncewully teritory?? Onytotty? Noabitupmerketfurye?

laugh.gif

QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jun 9 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]458050[/snapback]
Aye and there's a lot of tired sheep in the East Neuk this week then.

Sheep, like silly little message board posters, are attracted to Mortonjag like moths to a candle flame.

Unable to resist his fatal charm, they inevitably fall prey to his hungry desire.

Shoots eats and leaves.


Baa Baa black sheep, have you any wool
Yes Sir, yes Sir, three bags full.
One for the Master, and one for the Dame
Is that you finished Sir-I'm glad you came.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 05:27:28
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jun 4 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]456193[/snapback]
I was ad-libbing from a line from Andy M on the original EGM thread, the one before MJ decided he actually was interested and subsequently shat on it.

I got the detail slightly wrong, what Andy said was 1M shares at 75p, Golden Casket expected to take up a fifth of the shares.

What the f*ck are you blabbering about again Cawstick?

Anyhow, it's five days down the line and nobody seems to have a Scooby about Alistair Donald, so I'm going to stick out my neck and suggest that he's very keen to own the club and Shoogly-stubborn old fool as usual -has said something along the lines of-


Alistair, I'm more than willing to sell this 'excellent old club' with its fine tradition- which I have been supporting 'with my heart on my sleeve' since I was 'knee high to Arthur Montford' -for 'the right price', but I'm afraid ten million is nowhere NEAR a fair valuation....... though I'll let you have it for nine million provided I retain the 'casting vote' on all matters, and the May Hughes Dancers are still allowed to 'dance', and I want those parachutists to descend again at our opening game this season to celebrate the meticulous planning which was the hallmark of last season's efforts and totally down to myself as the fans will tell you 'man for man', though good Rangers chap as you are, you must confess that Celtic fans are 'a joy to behold', bringing as they do tears to this old man's eyes.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 05:35:02
QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Jun 2 2008, 11:50 PM) [snapback]455539[/snapback]
Maybe now people will realise that we don't represent all the fans, we couldn't possibly. But we have said that over and over again. If I'm repeating myself its in the forlorn hope that people will get the message. If they want the Trust to represent them they have to join.

We have received a question from a member regarding Mr Donald and we will take action on behalf of that member.

If people don't want to lift their head above the parapet that's fine. I understand that. But any correspondence we get from a member is dealt with in confidence. What that member choses to do with any answers they may get to questions is entirely up to them.



Eight days on Stuart-may I ask if you were able to answer the member's question?
mortonjag 2008-06-10 05:39:54
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 7 2008, 08:45 AM) [snapback]457264[/snapback]
Yes - and we all know how scientific polls on here are.

Most of that was prob Deego and MJ using their multiple aliases.

But - unlike him, I am not a wind up merchant. I just like a bit of debate.



That beats port-ton's 'his arse fits my hand like a glove'.

You are now leading the competition for Mortonjag's selection of 'most ridiculously funny post of the year'.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 05:53:03
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jun 9 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]458112[/snapback]
Would one of the mods like to clear up once and for all what is going on with this Mortonjag identity? The negative, pompous bollocks was bad enough but now that it seems like a whole bunch of spanners are taking turns under this label to post utter s***e it's become far more irritating.

You don't often make much sense, but Mortonjag concurs an thi munky agrease two an sez itz notte wirth getynge offal irry taitibel abowt ennyfing.

Lyfe, hee sez iz lyke ah mini chewer stik oph brussilz rok-phar two shawrt! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 06:03:08
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 9 2008, 07:29 PM) [snapback]458011[/snapback]
The only party pledging lower class sizes is the SNP. Neither Labour or their coalition partners the Lib-Dems would have introduced the scheme if they had got back into power.

The SNP have pledged to lower class sizes over the term of the parliament. They have only been in power a year. A bit early to critisize rolleyes.gif


I wasn't criticising Spurtle-I merely offered a point of factual information to which you responded with a quotation from SNP 'pledges'. I know which I prefer to trust.


QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 9 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]458119[/snapback]
MJ, looks like the SNP government spends more on the NHS also... rolleyes.gif

[b]NHS in England spends £400 less per patient than Scotland as 'health apartheid' widens[/b]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10...eid-widens.html

"Scots enjoy nearly £400 a year each more taxpayer spending on health and social care than people in England, an official breakdown showed today"


As you very well know Spurtle that was a piece of spin on behalf of England-demonstrating yet again how it has to subsidise those unhealthy c*nts north of the border.

It has NOTHING whatsoever to do with Sturgeon's outrageously irresponsible frittering of available cash.

It's amazing the resemblance between the new GMFC and the new SNP!

Need I say more? mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 06:13:00
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 9 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]458055[/snapback]
what about a web design company?

Is that market not already pretty saturated?

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 9 2008, 09:42 PM) [snapback]458083[/snapback]
Loan shark?


Indeed Davie-my son has already suggested a 'cheque clearing' shop, but that truly goes against my principles-I don't want to rip off poor folk.


QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 9 2008, 10:11 PM) [snapback]458106[/snapback]
you'd make an excellent call girl!


I know that darling but it's very labour intensive, and no doubt you and the deeglet would want to cut yourselves in!

QUOTE(tontastic @ Jun 9 2008, 11:24 PM) [snapback]458137[/snapback]
Oooooooooo... host internet forums for nothing ... you'd be raking the dosh in!!!


rolleyes.gif Pleading poverty again! Everybody knows Tontastic's loaded.


QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 9 2008, 11:30 PM) [snapback]458139[/snapback]
Given we are currently entering recession and most small businesses fail pretty sharpish - then don't bother.

But personally I'd go for installing hands free kits into cars. Assuming you don't need to buy a van / car, �100,000 should get you started easilly enough. Could move onto sat nav's, cd players, most kind of electrical things in cars.

Other big growth markets are wind turbines, but you'd need a far bigger outlay - even to start off with things on peoples houses etc. And some handy contacts with suppliers / installers etc.

Then there's always betterware or avon.


I can't decide whether or not that was an intended wind up Piehole, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say from the heart of my bottom-thank you! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 06:22:22
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jun 8 2008, 10:09 PM) [snapback]457763[/snapback]
My new wife saw and heard an orange band passing our house for the first time a few weeks ago. She thought it was a funeral procession...no joking.

How does one explain to a newcomer to the country what these people stand for ?

You don't need the pink words!
mortonjag 2008-06-10 06:29:31 05/06/08

Hello

Here is the latest picture of the seeded area down the standside.





What a differance a week makes.

A combination of warm weather, daily watering and an organic base fertilizer has lead to this fantastic result. (i.e Turkey manure " smells lovely".)

Thanks

Mark Farrell.


And a big thanks to you Mark-you put the rest of them to shame-FFS if you can access the site to update us on the pitch, why does nobody else EVER speak to us in the closed season except when they have to and we already know anyway! dry.gif .
mortonjag 2008-06-10 06:35:42 Happy birthday-have a belter! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 06:49:48 Union punishes MPs for ‘contempt’-from today's 'Herald'.




One of Britain's biggest trade unions yesterday reacted to the "contempt" with which workers are treated by the government by withdrawing financial support from six Labour MPs it said were not doing enough to support union policies.

The GMB, which has 600,000 members, named the first six of 35 Labour MPs it will refuse to support at the next General Election
.


The poor Gopher doesn't have his troubles to seek right now!


GIRUY you effin bandwagon jumping turd. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 08:22:50 Anybody know anything about laser teeth whitening?
mortonjag 2008-06-10 08:31:23
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 7 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]457406[/snapback]
I actually read the article properly after reading your post and the whole thing's laughable.

I watched every game Coakley played for Morton, including friendlies, and he was absolutely woeful. The stand out game was the Arthurlie friendly. You'd think a guy like Coakley who's looking for a contract, has a bit of pedigree ( Scotland Under 18s, former Motherwell) would take advantage of a game against a junior team and impress by scoring a couple of goals but he couldn't. He was that weak, slow and ineffectual against junior defenders that it was embarrassing.

His Dad is loaded and has obviously paid for a top agent to manage his affairs. It's also a bit of a coincidence that Adam ended up at two of the clubs his Dad played for in the past - especially considering the rumours that Jim McInally didn't want Coakley but Douglas Rae insisted.
laugh.gif Incredible.



JM's been in contact with the Jag to ghost write his new book entitled


'I wasn't up for it'.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 08:57:45
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 10 2008, 08:27 AM) [snapback]458175[/snapback]
No it's not, they pledged lower sizes but fixed a settlement with councils that has involved too little money to deliver on their pledge, ask any teacher, there have been significant financial cutbacks. All of the directors of education in Scotland agree that the Essen Pee have not delivered the cash needed to match their pledge.

That begs a very serious question Mr Bam.

Do they REALLY know what they are talking about, and can they REALLY be trusted with our money?

Sturgeon's gone for popularity-totally flying in the face of advice and perceived wisdom more often than not-I can say that because I speak to real people in the know, and because I understand the NHS.

Looks like they are f*cking up Education big style too.

Not a bad start for a shower of inexperienced women dancing to the tune of a power crazed gambler-eh? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 09:03:30 I would happily donate blood but it's against my religion! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 09:07:13
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 10 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]458186[/snapback]
costs about £99 a session i think an theres quite a few sessions, might be wrong

TY-do you think it would be a good business venture?
mortonjag 2008-06-10 10:32:32
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 10 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]458186[/snapback]
costs about £99 a session i think an theres quite a few sessions, might be wrong
web design company depends, big cities are but in scotland its mainly situated in Glasgow adn Edi, i think theres one maybe 2 in greenock an about the same in paisley. But theres always people looking to have sites built wether it be quick and easy ones or big professional ones. Im hoping that after this week i finish my HNC so i can do some small sites, Then after the summer next year with HND i will know more about databases so can go on and do bigger proffessional sites. Hopefully get into a company for a few years or have one with a few people from college.



I think that line of business is too specialised but good luck to you.

QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 10 2008, 09:13 AM) [snapback]458189[/snapback]
dunno really, lots of young girls maybe a few guys are getting obsessed with their looks, so theres always gonna be a market. but then again, could they afford it :S
http://www.goddessspa.co.uk/treatment_teeth.html
the spa my gf's aunt works in does teeth whitening, not sure if its laser, heres the link anyway


Thanks for that link-very interesting indeed!
mortonjag 2008-06-10 10:42:52
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 10 2008, 09:24 AM) [snapback]458191[/snapback]
Nothing ilke gross over-reaction ! You can't say the SNP government has failed to deliver after ONE year.

They made a manifesto pledge to reduce class sizes over the term of the parliament. No other party committed to that pledge, so give them credit where it's due rather than knee-jerk over-reaction.



I CAN say that the writing appears to be on the wall! There's not even a grain of improvement-which most folk could accept as a step towards the pledge they made.

The simple truth appears to be that they haven't a f*cking clue on the majority of important issues and they are literally playing it by ear, which I find both disappointing and sad. I was happy when they got in-you will claim I'm lying-I'm NOT.

When a daft wee lassie like Nickerless refuses to listen to the voices of experience, that's enough for me. They are playing at being politicians, and are frankly an embarrassment. Bawheid is primarily interested in feathering his own nest-in that respect he's no different, and certainly no better than the usual keech we've come to expect at Holyrood.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 10:46:58
QUOTE(dazed @ Jun 10 2008, 09:51 AM) [snapback]458202[/snapback]
Dont you own the copyright on that?? rolleyes.gif

NOPE!


tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 10:55:06
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 8 2008, 03:51 PM) [snapback]457618[/snapback]
Jag, you got a ballpark figure you're looking for?


Not really thought about it-as I said I'd consider any offers which weren't plain daft-the guitar alone's probably well worth a couple of hundred pounds (I paid almost £400), so add the amp, 'phones and keyboard and if I was selling off the Ton site I'd certainly be looking at £250 minimum.

To a 'good home', I might be tempted to take less.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 11:00:36
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 10 2008, 10:56 AM) [snapback]458225[/snapback]
All these 2p are adding up.

2p or not 2p-that is the question-what does one have to do in order to make one of those mickles which mak a muckle? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 11:03:47
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 10 2008, 10:53 AM) [snapback]458222[/snapback]
if i come across anymore links i'll pass them on

Cheers-the £99 for ten minutes brought a big cheesy smile to my decrepit coupon. Surely that's a misprint! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 11:36:17
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 10 2008, 11:29 AM) [snapback]458247[/snapback]
Aye he's good at spreading it blink.gif

I prefer the term dissemination HT-it sounds much more suggestive, and please don't grass me to the Mods.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 11:48:20
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 10 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]458220[/snapback]
Ok, then rather than grump and groan about it, tell me what's the alternative to the SNP ? I ask as you seem to be making daily attacks on them.
I was shocked and stunned you actually have made A post on Gordon Brown. Somone who has made a bigger c*** of things. But he has one solitary post to your numerous posts attacking the SNP.
As far as I'm aware you don't even vote anymore....says it all.

I can grump and groan about it as long as I like Spurtle-that's my prerogative, and puts me under no obligation WHATSOEVER to suggest an alternative. I criticise them regularly in the same way as I criticise Rae-another example of power without experience or responsibility, and have already mentioned the similarities between GMFC and the SNP UNDER Bawheid.

Please don't try to undermine my criticism of Gordon the Gopher to score cheap points-all politicians are keech in my book-I'd just hoped for a better quality of keech from the SNP-is that unreasonable?

QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 10 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]458242[/snapback]
They don't, they proposed bringing all P1-3 classes down to 20 pupils, they figured in the costs of this as being extra teachers, they forgot that extra classrooms would be needed. e.g. My local primary has aout 90 pupils in P1, this equates to 3 classes, 3 teachers and 3 rooms.
The Essen Pee want 20 in a class max, that's five classes, five teachers and 5 rooms. The rooms don't exist, they will have to be built, no money is provided for the building.

My own authority has serious problems in most of it's schools which run at capacity, in some cases the new sizes have meant that pupils are unlikely to get into their local primary in August, when this was pointed out to Bawheid's boys they whined that the class size reduction was just an aspiration.
Liars! It's your policy and you're telling authorities to implement it.
Under Labour (and it sticks in my craw to say it) education has been well managed, power has been devolved to local authorities and the old days of rule by ministerial fiat had gone.

Under the Essen Pee? mad.gif
Fiona Hyslop couldnae run a sweetie shop.

Well at least Mr Rae CAN run a sweetie factory! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 11:58:57
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 10 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]458228[/snapback]
Is there not any products on the market that can whiten teeth without paying a small fortune for it to get done.

There are Weegie!

QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 10 2008, 11:06 AM) [snapback]458233[/snapback]
It's cheaper up in Anderston, allegedly tongue.gif


Not with Simone! unsure.gif


QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 10 2008, 11:15 AM) [snapback]458238[/snapback]
Cleaning

Cleaning Wheelie Bins

Window Cleaning



Indeed, but too labour intensive for me!

QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 10 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]458240[/snapback]
don't discount something outdoors, maybe even miles from an electricity outlet and without a wifi signal.

how about counting st kilda sheep for a few years?

Thank ewe

QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 10 2008, 11:45 AM) [snapback]458252[/snapback]
If you are interested in teeth then there is a company in Dundee- "I. D. & M. Ltd" which has either just went under or about to go under. They claim to have a portable non-invasive system that can detect cavities at a very early stage providing full mapping of the dental area. Being cynical maybe the dentists don't want it as it will "eat" into their future margins by providing preventative measures. Maybe you can set up a rescue bid?

Don't try to beat a dentist when it comes to ripping folk off making money!

QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 10 2008, 11:46 AM) [snapback]458253[/snapback]
I have several ideas I think could be huge money making efforts but don't have the kahoonas to go after.

The secret to a lot of business success is the ability to constantly generate reveneue and one of the ideas I have in particualr (involves the security of children) would be a continual money spinner, a community winner, a government dream (would involve adding funds to policing !) and is something no parent would not part dosh for. The technology behind it is already available, and needs minor modifications if any to make it good to go. This could also be used by women, or indeed anyone who feels vulnerable to attack.

However, in the spirit of something I haven't invested a few thoughts of my own in, there HAS to be a huge market in a product men could safely use to remove facial hair. I need to shave every day for work and it is a complete pain in the rocks. I know that female hair removal products are too sensitive for extensive facial hair removal - but imagine never having to shave and applying a cream that would do the job for you - leaving baby smooth skin and doing the business for you for a couple of weeks.

I had also thought that with the burgeoning market in personal grooming that there are enough dafties out there who would spring for designer toothbrushes - custom made to suit your own personal mouth set up - angles, heights etc. Again, with a 3 month change out it ticks the repeat business box, and as a niche prodcut attracts a premium for minimal outlay. Indeed given that there will be a finite number of types of mouths, it becomes volume do-able whilst maintaining the "prescription" specific aspect that attracts those easily parted with theire dosh. Add in a fancy-dan container or such like to hold it and you could really be on the pigs back.

I sometimes have too much time on my hands ......

TonInDublin


Indeed TiD but you'd have to go through all the development, patents etc.

I'm just looking to home in on a burgeoning market-I think the teeth whitening thing would make some money if done properly-vanity is a huge growth industry those days! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 12:12:12
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 10 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]458265[/snapback]
If you are genuinely serious about this then PM me. My wife has an excellent idea which coupled with your expertise (I can't believe I have written that blink.gif ) and my better half's qualifications, know-how and market knowledge would in my opinion make a good return.

Will do!

QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 10 2008, 12:03 PM) [snapback]458266[/snapback]
Don't write this off Jag but I know a lot of people who do a roaring trade doing Avon. I for one would be a customer.

My partners's friend confirms that.

QUOTE(Yoda @ Jun 10 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]458268[/snapback]
Anything to do with child care. The government are throwing money at it, some agencies will actually pay to have your premises converted then rent them back from you. With the DSS now "encouraging" single mothers to return to work anyone entering into this will have a licence to print money. In certain cases monies are even available for new build premises which are then rented back from the owners Mon - Fri leaving an empty hall for use outwith childcare times. Looked into it for my work place but the existing building would have to be converted beyond the use of my clients and would have been better done before previous refurbs - but that was before my time. Enterprise Child Care are the folk to talk to in the Inverclyde area. I believe that the Sportscentre struck quite a nice deal with them for an unused hall.


Interesting too- a lot of organisation and supervision mind!
mortonjag 2008-06-10 12:26:50
QUOTE(Yoda @ Jun 10 2008, 12:19 PM) [snapback]458271[/snapback]
I think you misunderstand, they organise the refurb, they run the facility, they provide the staff, you bank the rental money! No participation is required from the premises owner, shame I can't use the template where I work, like I say a licence to print money (for old rope) and other naff phrases.

You could rent fing out as an hired assasin, there may be quite a few takers. For a couple of bananas and a week in sane tandrus you could literally make a killing!

laugh.gif

Why can't they just use existing premises?
mortonjag 2008-06-10 12:32:49
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 10 2008, 11:03 AM) [snapback]458230[/snapback]
Think I will be on the bench at the start anyway mate. In fact i might be the bench laugh.gif


As long as you're not the stool!
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 10 2008, 12:22 PM) [snapback]458272[/snapback]
Got a few weeks to recover mate. In fact already made plans, got a bed booked in the IRH.



You've just been reported to wee Nickerless.

mortonjag 2008-06-10 13:23:16
QUOTE(SJ76 @ Jun 10 2008, 12:54 PM) [snapback]458287[/snapback]
Another valid point ignored because Mortonjag raised it.

wink.gif

There's less of an anti -Jag culture than in previous seasons-thankfully it has not become perennial!

Oh and GMFC.net is kerrrrrrrrrap!
mortonjag 2008-06-10 13:29:22
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jun 5 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]456596[/snapback]
That explains a lot about your postings. Does your head still hurt much?

Listen to me Ratarse-my postings are brand new-if you can't understand them I'm unsurprised.

QUOTE(VaderTON @ Jun 10 2008, 01:16 PM) [snapback]458306[/snapback]
Just read the tele and it seems that wee spud has chucked the dummy oot his pram becuase of the season ticket change. Now after reading the segment, should he not have complained to the gorenment? after all it was they who changed the legislation on disability issues...TBH I aint ever had time for the wee guy, dont care how much 'charidee' work he's done. Call me cynical but when someone or somebody changes the goal posts, find out who made the rules, not just go for the ones who are compliant with them....he's probably not the only one to think like he did, But I cant help thinkin he's just pettin his lip hopin for some special attention. Well you got it from me...stop yer whinging!!! dry.gif



Who, pray, is this baby potato in our midst? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 13:32:33
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Jun 10 2008, 12:55 PM) [snapback]458289[/snapback]
From today's Telegraph

'Meanwhile, Ton-target goalkeeper Stephen Robertson has re-signed with Airdrie United after it was confirmed that the New Broomfield club would be playing First Division football next season.
I have very good friends who are Airdrie Season Ticket holders. They said Robertson is a 'great shot stopper' but is poor coming for crosses and terrible dealing with pass-backs.

So I'm not too disappointed that we have not signed him!

In the SECOND division, and we were chasing him?
mortonjag 2008-06-10 13:35:23
QUOTE(Yoda @ Jun 10 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]458279[/snapback]
It would be incredibly unworkable, the business is too established in what it does for the clients to be disrupted by soft ball areas and sand pits. Not to mention I can imagine the clients having more fun than the weans with some of their toys!!!! Total refurb would mean having to close down, and even if that were viable financially, it may never recover if my client got out of the habit of using the facility. As there is no good time to close it's on the back burner for now - until another opportunity comes along - they always do.

Cheers Yoda-that's one to be kept in mind.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 13:39:25
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 10 2008, 12:38 PM) [snapback]458281[/snapback]
Can you reccomend any?

No-only because I haven't tried them!

QUOTE(crgadams @ Jun 10 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]458286[/snapback]
M.J. I think these laser, teeth whitening places are pretty open to litigation. I think they can, if not done properly, wreck the teeth’s enamel, which causes the teeth to turn a greyish colour in the months following the treatment. I am pretty sure that there is some kind motion going through parliament at the moment which will outlaw the procedure unless carried out by a qualified dentist.

Sounds like jobs for the boys as the technique is exactly the same whether or not it's dentally supervised.

Do you have a link by any chance?
mortonjag 2008-06-10 13:47:41
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Jun 10 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]458324[/snapback]
Well considering there are now more older people than younger people why not improvise age related products/services for certain age groups. i.e 60-80+, 40-50 etc etc. Certainly in greenock alone there are many older people outnumbering the younger class. The prices would have to be cheap considering pensions are tight etc. Just a thought.

That's clear headed thinking-I imagine the mobility scooter and stair lift moguls are absolutely coining it in. Any novel suggestions aimed at the decrepit? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 13:50:21
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 10 2008, 01:33 PM) [snapback]458315[/snapback]
it was tele talk, there were no quotes from di...

laugh.gif

I see our Manager has already been promoted to Royalty level! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 14:00:38
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 10 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]458332[/snapback]
this is a stupid idea imho. one of my friends came up with this and is genuinely looking for someone to invest, he's done the research spoke to a company and is wanting to sell electricity to electric companies. Before you laugh read.
what he intnds to do is store energy by using hydro. he gets 14p for every killowatt I think he said. wasnt really listening and recons he can make arouund £5000 a month b4 tax and expenditures. The company he spoke to said it's plausible and thres companies that actual would be interested but here comes th problems.

he has no money to invest
he has no business sense
he's a tit
and probably really could do as being manager of the compan and having someone else own it and make deciscions or he will feck it right up.
plus it Green energy the goverments all for that

Where will he get the energy from in the first place-I'm assuming he means using the tried and tested principle of converting potential energy to electricity using water driven turbines?
mortonjag 2008-06-10 14:16:01
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Jun 10 2008, 02:09 PM) [snapback]458337[/snapback]
Robertson was never a target

I believe that-where does the Tilly get its information? huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 14:19:49
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Jun 10 2008, 02:14 PM) [snapback]458339[/snapback]
Well MJ, If you look at old folk nowadays you see bored faces. I suggest a themepark made specifically for oaps. rollercoasters going 20 mph in a circle.
On a more serious note, cheap clothing for the aged would be a sound investment, most of them wear 5 layers even when its as hot as a drought. With pensions paying out very little many struggle to buy new gear. Reduce the prices so that although profits may be reduced the actual amount of customers you get may increase.
Cant think of anything else at this precise moment so will try think of something.



The flaw there might be that they still tend to wear the same kind of garments as younger folk.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 14:48:29
QUOTE(simplyton @ Jun 10 2008, 02:39 PM) [snapback]458359[/snapback]
While certainly not an idea I have put a lot of thought into what about some sort of lesiure location for adults

Think of funworld for big kids

Aimed at groups for work day/night outs - It could be some amalgamation of bowling, paintballing, lasertag, soccer circus etc.

Sounds marketable but don't let Shoogly hear that one! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 14:54:10


QUOTE(pgmsc @ Jun 10 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]458342[/snapback]
Where do most of the papers get there info not like papers make things up

Oh c'mon-you're not suggesting that they just come up with any old story-surely they must rely on some kind of 'sources'! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 15:25:17
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Jun 10 2008, 03:15 PM) [snapback]458378[/snapback]
physio probably told them.

............or they just read it on his pubic massage board?
mortonjag 2008-06-10 15:33:25
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 10 2008, 03:25 PM) [snapback]458382[/snapback]

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Nope Spurtle, it sounds paranoid-and don't forget that a significant proportion of those who voted Bawheid's lot in were the same thick clowns who previously voted Labour because they were paranoid about the nasty Tories oppressing 'the working classes'!

If you want intelligent perceptive folk to come over to 'the cause' treat them as such-otherwise you will continue to be ridiculed.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 15:40:20
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 10 2008, 03:36 PM) [snapback]458388[/snapback]
Don't they hate us when we tell the truth ? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

You didn't 'tell the truth'-you simply posted a puerile anti unionist jibe-that's the type of thing which irritates ordinary intelligent folk, to say nothing of genii like myself.

Just when I was thinking of going back to Claymore C*ck, I find the term Spurtle remains far more accurate!
mortonjag 2008-06-10 15:46:24
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 10 2008, 03:29 PM) [snapback]458385[/snapback]
i know i used to play so did my sis
and m mum, dad, gran, grandad, 2 aunts, 2 uncles and 3 little cousins play
biggrin.gif


YOUSE ARE
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 10 2008, 03:36 PM) [snapback]458389[/snapback]
Where did you play? Maybe i know you.


HI-JACKING
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 10 2008, 03:40 PM) [snapback]458390[/snapback]
i was about 16 when i played only 24 now :S

was in rankin park thats where m gran, grandad, aunts, uncles and cousins are.
mum and dad are in port glasgow bowling club (dad was pres last year, ronnie took over now)



THIS THREAD

Behave immediately or I shall burst into some Belgian dirge and drown in my own tears.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 15:50:50
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 10 2008, 03:45 PM) [snapback]458393[/snapback]
i voted socialists last election based solely on the fact that i used to work in IBM factories (and call centre) and thatcher and major adn torries were worse than swear words and blashpemy ect learned alot from the older guys about torries and why not to vote them. then theres labour i dont actualy remember thm doing very much significantly and blair was a t***. SNP the fat leader dude jsut annoyed me. so i voted socialists becuase i kinda figured they would take scotland in the right direction. But my votte shouldn't count, i read books about marxism and karl marx, lenin, stalin, fidel, socialism and i read somethign on capitalism :S

You made a reasoned decision-that's what matters! wink.gif


PRESERVE THE UNION


Use vinegar-Rowats have been doing it for decades.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 15:54:56
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 10 2008, 03:50 PM) [snapback]458398[/snapback]
If that post could be translated into a language that I can understand I'd be grateful. It may we be the most profound thing ever written on here but at the moment I just don't know.



Indeed it 'may we be'-I actually got the drift no bother! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 15:57:20
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 10 2008, 03:48 PM) [snapback]458396[/snapback]
promising?

Cut the cackle and get on with it then-I'm taking a crash course in swimming right now!
mortonjag 2008-06-10 16:00:47
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jun 10 2008, 03:54 PM) [snapback]458401[/snapback]
I've had some pretty good mince in my time though Muz wink.gif
I'm just glad that PortTon's not in the same team as you...the thought of towel flicking in the changing room makes me shudder unsure.gif

'Towel flicking in the changing room'-that's the first time I've ever heard it described in code!
mortonjag 2008-06-10 16:06:34
QUOTE(EBu @ Jun 10 2008, 03:59 PM) [snapback]458407[/snapback]
Yes we are... oh, and dont call me Shirley. tongue.gif




omah e bu sulis dancok. matane

and I'll call you whatever I like Dancok.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 16:10:16
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 10 2008, 04:03 PM) [snapback]458412[/snapback]
He doesn't let the grass grow under his feet. Anyway are you trying to scare me with your crowing?

hissing might be more aspt
mortonjag 2008-06-10 16:16:28
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 10 2008, 03:59 PM) [snapback]458406[/snapback]
Jesus!!! Trying to work, bank on-line and type on here at the same time.

Could you please translate the post for me MJ? There's a good chap.

Aye-the boy said he didn't vote Tory because he'd been poisoned against them by older workmates, he couldn't stand the sight of Salmond's coupon, and thought Blair was a phanny so he voted Scottish Socialist.

He thinks he's as entitled to his vote as the next guy-particularly as he's done a fair bit of relevant research.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 16:19:04
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 10 2008, 04:00 PM) [snapback]458408[/snapback]
Ach wind yir neck in. Anyway hi-jacking threads is what I do best tongue.gif

Aye -well just don't hi-jack mine Mr Turpin or fing'll show you how to use a real gun.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 16:21:00
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 10 2008, 04:19 PM) [snapback]458419[/snapback]
yeah what he said

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 16:23:56
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 10 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]458415[/snapback]
Do you mean I'm telling Sweet little lies ?

laugh.gif



Bloody hell Spurtle-

'There now follows a political broadcast on behalf of the ********* party' was always a cue to put the kettle on, or have a quick shag, and now you're posting the same effin keech on here!
mortonjag 2008-06-10 16:28:24
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 10 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]458425[/snapback]
Thanks, the boy has a point. Well done for that post.

The thing I've found about Marxists over the years is that they'll say they are a Marxist then once they read some books they realise they in fact are not.


I can honestly say I wouldn't know a Marxist if I met one in my wee red book.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 16:48:05
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jun 10 2008, 04:41 PM) [snapback]458433[/snapback]
I'm not sure why, but I feel as if Alan Titchmarsh would be proud of this thread! biggrin.gif

Indeed-though I preferred Charlie's Titsmarch
mortonjag 2008-06-10 16:50:17
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Jun 10 2008, 04:43 PM) [snapback]458434[/snapback]
Just on that last part, why should he be allowed too? or to reword that...the only person who can make or break is him...I'm sure many a poster on here has hit personal low points..but has decided to get up and make a go of things. not spend an age turning their lives up side down even more...AFWIW I never like the wee turdeven when he played for us. If having the 'life' changing experiance of a mate knickin your burd is enough to turn you into an abuser of substances, stay at home, dont go out, lock the windows and doors, cause the world was never going to be a place of bloody fairytales. and if thats what he choose to turn to, then sorry, he wasnt much of a person to start with.....no one makes that choice for you!!! dry.gif he is and always will be a wee fud.....

unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 16:52:48
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 10 2008, 04:34 PM) [snapback]458431[/snapback]
Morton Jag......need help again.

The boy opined that Marxist Ton would be a good source of information on Marxism.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 16:54:39
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 10 2008, 04:45 PM) [snapback]458436[/snapback]
Idle threats will get you nowhere MJ tongue.gif

Fing doesn't do idle threats Mr Turpin-yer card's marked!
mortonjag 2008-06-10 16:59:10
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 10 2008, 04:54 PM) [snapback]458446[/snapback]
Which one of these is Mark Farrell?

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDThat's not a seed box in the background!
mortonjag 2008-06-10 17:03:25
And for the old dirty bams it stars Missy Peregrym


Aye-well I'd imagine the 'reaper' will be very grim. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 17:11:26
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jun 10 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]458453[/snapback]
I think a local lad/former Ton player being discussed on the board is a sensitive issue. But I don't think there has been any malice in MOST of the comments so far to be fair. That being said, maybe it is inappropriate, I wouldn't object to the thread being erased.



Malice is commonplace on the rag-the Jag knows this.

A wee fud and junkie called Alice..
(I say that without any malice)
came out of rehab
and bought a prefab
which she has turned into a 'palace'.
.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 17:13:49
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 10 2008, 05:06 PM) [snapback]458457[/snapback]
Thought it was utter kack and an example of someone taking way too many drugs. Worked on the 'Blue Jam' album which came out on Warp Records. It was also kack but for some bizarre reason sold loads.



Is that the Belgian form of 'keech'?
mortonjag 2008-06-10 18:22:20
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 10 2008, 05:18 PM) [snapback]458463[/snapback]
It's Dutch actually.

laugh.gif

Them foreigners are all the same to me! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 18:24:55
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 10 2008, 05:15 PM) [snapback]458461[/snapback]
Taking that as read. She is quite level headed as Sir Alan put it but he doesn't look convinced. Think Lee shot his bolt in the interviews last week.

That must surely have impressed Mr Sugar.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 18:26:59
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 10 2008, 05:16 PM) [snapback]458462[/snapback]
Bring it on biggrin.gif

On it has already been brung-it's only a matter of time-have you made a will-the Trust needs generosity and publicity?
mortonjag 2008-06-10 18:32:15
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 10 2008, 06:21 PM) [snapback]458479[/snapback]
Again Col, you're way too hard on yourself. wink.gif

Mortonjag are you a babel fish? ohmy.gif



Of sorts I guess-I was always very good at 'interpretation'! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 18:36:08 The Yanks would love Kev-he'd remind them of the attack on Iraq-full of energy with no purpose, and a negative final product.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 18:38:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 10 2008, 04:58 PM) [snapback]458451[/snapback]
Just for you then

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDShe doesn't have the most winsome of faces-I agree, and would probably prove to be a bit of a handful.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 18:56:38
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jun 10 2008, 06:44 PM) [snapback]458495[/snapback]
Stick with me on this one! laugh.gif

This time in 2012, when London will be preparing to host the Olympic Games, Scotland will very possibly have had its first vote on independence and Euro 2012 will be staged in Poland/Ukraine or an emergency back-up nation if they balls it up, what league do you expect Morton to be making pre-season plans for.

This doesn't have to be concrete. It can just where you hope they'll be!

I hope we are preparing for a season in the SPL, I expect us to have been involved in a title race in the First Division at the very worst!

Ask God-but you'll need Shoogly's permission.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 18:59:49
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 10 2008, 06:45 PM) [snapback]458496[/snapback]
But at least I'm not a Tory tongue.gif

True and certainly not a Nationalist, though you have an almost endearing affection for one of the biggest balloons ever to hit Scottish politics.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 19:03:53 I can't really see what was so funny-those poor souls gave their all and then some. Such devotion could have seen the Ton promoted much earlier, and even last season we pathetically managed to crawl over the line to huge jubilation.

What was the difference between 8th and 9th-Shoogly's hide! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 19:08:11 Well-geezwan
mortonjag 2008-06-10 19:10:00
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 10 2008, 07:04 PM) [snapback]458504[/snapback]
even had a nice wee chat with an ex Morton goal keeper when I was waiting.

Hope he wasn't knocking back the pints.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 19:26:01
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 10 2008, 07:20 PM) [snapback]458509[/snapback]
what has Dougie got to do with either the video, or this thread? why do you have to ruin every thread on this forum ? i cannot read anything on here anymore without seeing your inane drivel being spouted on every second post. Either put up or shut up, and by that i mean that you seem to have a lot of spare time on your hands so why not organise a campaign to oust Dougie from his position within the club? why not do something like that instead of all these wee digs in threads which he isn't involved. Now come on Doctor prove you have a bit of substance behind you and put into practice what you believe in, if you think Dougie has done so much harm to this club then let us all see your proof and lets see if you can get enough support to oust him from his position.

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Wouldn't you have got rid of more angst by wishing me a slow and painful death-or just slopin' off for a quiet J. Arthur?

Oh-and it's Shoogly to me, though I fully understand there are still a dwindling few who regard him with affection and apparent brain damage. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 19:29:36
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 10 2008, 07:25 PM) [snapback]458511[/snapback]
Indeed you're not.

Inlike this fella............
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDHe reminds me of Myra Hindley-always the same picture evoking always the same thoughts.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 19:31:51
QUOTE(El gofer @ Jun 10 2008, 07:27 PM) [snapback]458513[/snapback]
Nawpy sofya bow rinowg it

Hooer ewe Colin agit
mortonjag 2008-06-11 05:31:37
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jun 10 2008, 08:19 PM) [snapback]458527[/snapback]
General nonsense for this p*sh.

amenta ton roomer sew ewe an thi modwer rong rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 05:34:46
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 10 2008, 08:09 PM) [snapback]458522[/snapback]
haha

What an intelligent comment.

QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 10 2008, 08:17 PM) [snapback]458524[/snapback]
No that was the union of the Scottish and English crown in 1606 - despite James of Scotland taking the now British throne and becoming James I of Britain, Scotland was still politically independent (own parliament etc).

Wasn't until 1707 when the Scottish landowners were bought and sold for English gold and Scotland as a political entity made redundant.

Over the next 100 years, after two failled Jacobite rebellions, much of Scotland lost it's Scottish identity - the use of Gaelic and Bagpipes etc was outlawed.

Incidentally - the Scottish crown was taken by James VI of Scotland and he became James I of Britain. Elizabeth took the British crown in 1952, and despite the previous Elizabeth reigning before 1606 - she became Elizabeth II. Just another example of England meaning Britain in many peoples eyes.

Piehole-I'm impressed-you're almost as good as Donkey Dave at regurgitating fingz!
mortonjag 2008-06-11 05:44:40
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 10 2008, 10:45 PM) [snapback]458561[/snapback]
I dont have any angst to direct at you, i just feel that you are abusing the forum in your own special way, by having digs at Dougie. If you do have a genuine want to see him removed from the running of the club then why not start a campaign to remove him, if you are correct in saying that there is only a dwindling few who still support him then i cannot see any reason why your 'campaign' wont work as you would have a large backing from us fans. So convince the remaining few on here who still want Dougie at the helm of club by stopping the little digs and posting the truth as you see it to bring the remaining few non-believers, shouldn't be very hard if that information you have has convinced a man of your stature and education.

That's much better-you can do it when you try!

You'll not be wishing me a 'slow and painful death' anymore now that you've returned to the land of the civilised and civil. smile.gif

Now-to the highlighted phrase-let me assure you that 'the truth as I see it' is the truth, and has been shared privately with almost a dozen trustworthy posters.

Dispute that if you wish-it's perfectly normal for folk who simply don't like the Jag and his style.

Finally, let me ask you a serious and sincere question. Do you believe Douglas Rae is still 'good' for Greenock Morton, and if so-why?

mortonjag 2008-06-11 05:54:16
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jun 10 2008, 08:55 PM) [snapback]458538[/snapback]
Mobile Coversion of Cars to Bio Oil and supplying the oil

Set up a Van with all tools to convert the cars and also source Oil
from china or some other suitable cheap country and sell it in 5 & 10 Litre Bottles (Sell it as COOKING OIL) to avoid fuel tax then its at customers risk to use it as fuel

If you cant be arsed actually doing anything and making a Guarenteed profit ??

Buy £100k of Barrels of Oil wait at say $113 wait a year and sell then at $180 - $200 a barel .. Easy


You're probably on to some kind of winner there Scott. My son says the easiest way is to offer to dispose of used oil from chippies and treat it as you've suggested. For me it's just too much like hard work!


QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 10 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]458542[/snapback]
MJ I have a serious suggestion.

Dunno how to go about it though maybe you will, not even sure if anything like this exists.

this is the thing I suffer from mears irlen syndrome basically means i need coloured filters to read, or coloured glaasses, and alot of web sites dont provide for this, its usualy white background black text which is difficult for people with this condition to read. So I was thinking why not build and design a filter (different colours available) that attaches to the monitor so people with this condition can read websites with more ease.

The problem with high tech stuff for a small consumer base is that it takes ages before you get you investment back. Why don't you put that idea to an established company though?

QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 10 2008, 10:59 PM) [snapback]458569[/snapback]
Similar to BlueScottishRaven's mates idea, offshore wave energy farms similar to the salmon farms.

Dozens of cylinders coupled together floating just a few hindred feet offshore with water hitting the bottom of the cylinder, blowing air up turning a small turbine which in turn charges a battery onshore which feeds the National Grid with a environmentally sound and renewable source of energy which will last forever.

I would like to use this to create jobs in areas of rural unemployment, and to provide this countrys pensioners with affordable energy, but it would cost more that £1,000,000 to set it up.



Is this already operational anywhere-is the figure of £1,000,000 ballpark or taken from an audited business plan?
mortonjag 2008-06-11 05:59:40
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Jun 10 2008, 11:34 PM) [snapback]458582[/snapback]
coudent find my vain so stoped taking it form me bit of a pisser seing i had wated about a houer to be seen and now i have a big f** off browes on my airm



You must be one mean c*nt-they're supposed to be s*** hot at getting blood.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 06:02:48
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 10 2008, 11:30 PM) [snapback]458579[/snapback]
28 and 29....old basturds smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-11 06:06:15
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 11 2008, 12:44 AM) [snapback]458591[/snapback]
It was Fing!!!!



Fing is to the nail gun as William Tell is to the crossbow! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 06:09:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 11 2008, 12:38 AM) [snapback]458589[/snapback]
Do these rankings make any more sense than FIFA ?
European cities dominate the worldwide rankings of locations with the best quality of living, according to Mercer’s 2008 Quality of Living survey.

Zurich retains its 2007 title as the highest ranked city, followed jointly by Vienna (2), Geneva (2), then Vancouver (4) and Auckland (5).

In the UK, London ranks 38, while Birmingham and Glasgow are jointly 56.

The highest entry for the United States is Honolulu, appearing at number 28.

The cities with the lowest quality of living ranking are Ndjamena (211), Khartoum (212), Brazzaville (213) and Bangui (214). Baghdad, ranking 215, retains its position at the bottom of the table.
http://www.mercer.com/referencecontent.jht...Content=1306635



NO



...though Mercers are presumably laughing all the way to the bank on the strength of the clowns who believe them.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 06:14:43
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jun 10 2008, 08:14 PM) [snapback]458523[/snapback]
Perhaps ignored because it wasn't a valid point. MJ infers that no other section of the GMFC site is EVER (his emphasis) updated. A quick glance at the official site reveals several news items which fans would have been interested in - eg pre-season tour, new signings, Challenge Cup draw and information on 2008-09 Season Tickets to name but a few. The Lottery section is also updated weekly immediately after the draw. Still, as usual, MJ is not one to let the facts get in the way of a moan. Sad man really.mad.gif

The sad men Smiffy are those who refuse to listen to Mortonjag-join the enlightened and wake up each day with a big cheesy smile. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 06:19:08
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 10 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]458521[/snapback]
you wouldn't expect confidential information to be revealed on a public messageboard, would you? tongue.gif

It happens all the time Trumpet-it would appear that very few are privy to the truth about Mr Donald. I DO have some limited information, regarding his remit. NOT for a pubic massage board though.

QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jun 10 2008, 08:17 PM) [snapback]458526[/snapback]
But MJ already knows all the answers does he not? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Mortonjag knows many things itchy baws-do not attempt to mock your superiors.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 06:27:01
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 11 2008, 12:29 AM) [snapback]458588[/snapback]
I only got mine today.

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We've still had nuffin'! laugh.gif

'Mark-here's a few more letters to post'.

'Not MORE Gillian-can you not see I'm up to the eyes in turkey dung'.

'Mr Rae wants them posted today'.

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mortonjag 2008-06-11 06:33:40
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jun 10 2008, 08:37 PM) [snapback]458530[/snapback]
So how do you know this isn't the point when he'll turn it round?

EXACTLY

QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 11 2008, 12:17 AM) [snapback]458585[/snapback]
I'm inclined to agree with those arguing that the origins of the post are to do with his history as an ex-ton player and not specifically to cast judgement or have a dig. Some posters have chosen that route for whatever reason, but it's spurious to tar us all with that big weepy brush. I hope it is anyway...

FWIW I was in school with his brother, really good family as others have mentioned, hopefully he'll get sorted soon.

Sweepy?

It's always the same with stereotypes-alkies, junkies, fat b*****ds, dworphs, women, pufes, religious phrekes, Mortonjags, etc.

The only person I know who thoroughly deserves to be publicly ostracised is Professor Piehole-'cos he's a total fud- him and Tontastic! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 06:40:48 Sir Alan denies being jumped-up chairman (from today's Herald)


Sir Alan Sugar has denied using a booster seat to appear taller in the boardroom.

A makeshift wooden plinth has been spotted underneath Sir Alan's boardroom chair in The Apprentice.

It has been claimed that the 5ft 6ins tycoon uses a special seat to look taller when he declares "You're fired".


But the Apprentice star said: "That's a load of rubbish. The chair is fixed to stop it moving backwards and forwards while allowing me to swing to the left and the right.





Well he would, wouldn't he!


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mortonjag 2008-06-11 07:50:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 11 2008, 06:43 AM) [snapback]458612[/snapback]
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a doctor used a common claw hammer to remove the nail.

I meant could mortonjag have done a better removal job ? ... not the insertion !!!

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Mortonjag would NEVER use anything 'common'. A medium sized platinum mole wrench would be my tool of choice-far less risk of slipping off with secondary damage-and think of the invoice! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 07:53:58
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 11 2008, 07:41 AM) [snapback]458614[/snapback]
theres actualy a large % of the worlds population that has mears irlen but a large part of that go through life not knowig they have it as it can be minor to the extent u dont notice till you look through a filter. Just an idea what kind of compan would I take it to though :S

I would start by googling 'optical filters' or some similar term-surfing for fifteen or twenty minutes you'd probably get a good idea of who makes similar equipment.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 07:57:11
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 11 2008, 07:46 AM) [snapback]458615[/snapback]
I'd open a sweetie shop called "Dessert Storm". All the staff would wear combat fatigues.

Either that or a sci-fi themed white goods store called "Rebel Appliance".

Don't steal that

Well just don't open it within a hundred mile radius of Greenock or Auld Shoogly will be shufflin' in tryin' to shell you shome of hish shuper shweeties. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 08:16:25
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 11 2008, 08:00 AM) [snapback]458619[/snapback]
might just do that, this could be my get rich quick scheme lol

You've got to be in it to win it! wink.gif

On a totally different note, do you-or does any poster for that matter, know of a clinic in Inverclyde which offers botox therapy?
mortonjag 2008-06-11 08:21:43 Aye-many happy returns of the day little ones.

Benny boy-where are you-have you finished yon' Doctorate from a proper University yet-you haven't posted for months-I suspect you may have dizzy peered off to darkest Aphrica.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 08:43:31
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 11 2008, 08:24 AM) [snapback]458623[/snapback]
the only place i know about is in fife somewhere

Hmm-you reckon it's not all that common up here yet?

Lulu must get hers done down south!
mortonjag 2008-06-11 08:46:13
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 11 2008, 08:27 AM) [snapback]458624[/snapback]
and perceptive. i was just wondering why you don't heed your own advice smile.gif

It was neither intelligent nor perceptive Trumpet. With your usual wearisome modus operandi you attempted to score a cheap point at Mortonjag's expense.

Will you ever learn?
mortonjag 2008-06-11 08:54:41
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 11 2008, 08:34 AM) [snapback]458626[/snapback]
Nice to see Dublin climbing a couple of places to 25th in Quality of Living, and sitting pretty at 17th in Safest Place as well. Although I assume none of the people conducting the survey ventured into Finglas, Ballyfermot or Clondalkin after lights out to ask their questions.

There was a great quote during the last election from one of the Fine Gael prospective candidates - he made the mistake of going into darkest Clondalkin in his BMW as he went door to door. Jumping out he saw a group of young neds and shouted over "lads, if I leave this car here will it still be here when I get back". One of the lads shouted"mister, wherever you leave that car in Dublin, it'll be here when you get back !". Brilliant.

I just returned from San Diego and would easily have it in my top 10 for both. Ditto for Toronto.

Just my tuppence worth.

TonInDublin



So tell me this-well not YOU specifically-perhaps Spurtle will have the answer-but how the hell is 'London' a better place than 'Glasgow'.

It seems the old story of lies, damned lies, and statistics TiD!

Any large City is a conglomerate of so many factors-Glasgow, for example has the largest area of parkland in Europe-VERY impressive, yet a lassie was robbed, sexually assaulted, and murdered two weeks ago in Queens Park (less than a mile from this computer)!

So how to they score that 10/10 for parks and 0/10 for murders= 5/10? laugh.gif

IMHO it's a useless exercise pandering to the egos of those who are daft enough to give it credibility!

mortonjag 2008-06-11 09:01:48
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 11 2008, 08:33 AM) [snapback]458625[/snapback]
why do you think they should share 'the truth' with you? huh.gif
qed wink.gif



Tiresome and embarrassingly repetitive Trumpet-it's not even about Alistair Donald-just your fatal attraction to the Jag and pathological need to link your name with his posts.

Oh well-whatever floats your boat.

Would you like me to add to my signature 'TrumpingTon my deerstalker is really awful nice-no sh*t Sherlock'?


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mortonjag 2008-06-11 09:05:27
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 11 2008, 08:53 AM) [snapback]458630[/snapback]
hasn't this veered off topic a little?

Aye it's that Trumpet's fault-he stalks me, you see!

Spurtle's probably busy handing out pamphlets right now-we better get it on track before he finds out we've f*cked his precious bete noire.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 09:08:07
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Jun 11 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]458633[/snapback]
This is something Toby noticed to our disgust while out in Prague. U were gettin considerably more for English notes than the Scots ones!!!

It was 2 seperate columns on the board. ohmy.gif mad.gif

Does Spurtle know this?
mortonjag 2008-06-11 09:09:48
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 11 2008, 08:52 AM) [snapback]458629[/snapback]
dunno when I was in town a few months ago over heard a convo in the bus shelter some woman was goin to fife to get botox done. so it could be getting popular


It's probably the old story of Scotland dragging behind England dragging behind the USA.


mortonjag 2008-06-11 09:17:03
QUOTE(BluebirdTon @ Jun 11 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]458632[/snapback]
Signs for Forfar.

Link

Looks like the Loons are yet again making a bid for promotion.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 09:28:44
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 11 2008, 09:16 AM) [snapback]458638[/snapback]
why do you think they should share 'the truth' with you? huh.gif

Stop digressing-I realise you're embarrassed and flattered by my attention-do you want me to amend my signature or not?
mortonjag 2008-06-11 10:34:30
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 11 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]458642[/snapback]
“Duck†in and look at these guys- http://www.edesign.co.uk/
It would get trashed by Rangers fans! In saying that maybe you could open a laser quest for opposing football team supporters and start a league!
There are various companies that offer optical filters- Thorlabs, OZ Optics, New focus, etc.
There is a company in Livingston who design and grow speciality filters- Helia. They are excellent.
Frank Placido at Paisley is also at the forefront of thin film design. A very approachable chap.
MJ you would take out half of Europe’s stock if you were intent on looking younger! dry.gif

I'm not! I'm content to remain old, ugly, and intensely attractive to all members of the opposite sex under the age of 43.67 years.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 10:38:06
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 11 2008, 10:07 AM) [snapback]458654[/snapback]
Actually there was more than two Jacobite uprisings, there was one in 1719 as well.
Not true that Culloden was the last battle fought on "british" soil. The battle of Bonnymuir was fought in 1820.
To say the Jacobite uprisings were a "Catholic" thing is another myth. Many were Episcopalian.
Another myth you may hear is more Scots fought for the Hanovarian side. Again not true.
We also had the the Disarming Act firstly then the Act of Proscription. No bagipes, names like McGregor were banned, and you couldn't even read from you're Gaelic bible.

Another myth that unionists use is that Gaelic was only spoken in the Highlands. Greenock fro example comes from the Gaelic Grianaig. Many believe it comes from the Green Oak tree.

During Robert the Bruce's time, parliaments were held in Gaelic. Bruce was a fluent Gaelic speaker and was born in Turnberry.

James VII was the last Stuart monarch on the british throne. Replaced by William of Orange simply because he was Catholic.
Many go on about Bonnie Prince Charlie being Italian. True he was born in Italy, but he was a direct decendant of the Stuart James VII (his grandfather) and rightful King of Scots. Unlike the German George II of Hanover who could hardly speak a word of English.
Jacobite incidently comes from the Latin Jacobus meaning James.
The present Monarchy is foreign too, coming from the German Saxe Coburg-Gotha. They changed their name during WWI when they picked a name out of the hat to make them sound more English, Windsor was the name they chose eventually. Mountbatton is also a name change, it was previously Battenburg.

Hey Spurtle-a point of information-25 years ago to this very day, a young Gordon Brown was campaigning for a Scottish Assembly because labour were still successful up here but Maggie was running riot in Inglind!
mortonjag 2008-06-11 10:55:25
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 11 2008, 10:30 AM) [snapback]458659[/snapback]
Why don't you just answer the question and without any smart-arse comments and juvenile name calling.

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QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 11 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]458661[/snapback]
It would be nice to share the truth with all of us rather than quibbling about who should or should not be told .

Precisely Chris, and the reason I did not respond to trouble maker Trumpet and his band wagon jumping friend is that I NEVER suggested that 'they' should tell 'me' anything. The remaining pathetic fools whose raison d'etre is to undermine Mortonjag will try every dirty trick in the book-behaviour that has become pathognomonic of chronic Shooglyphilia.



I asked an open question for the benefit of ALL interested posters-it was clearly directed to anyone who had information. The Trust 'body swerved' it by claiming to be dealing with the same question from an anonymous Trust member. In truth, I suspect the Trust knows no more than the rest of us.

Donkey Dave has been strangely quiet-maybe he's finally been put out to grass! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 11:04:52
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 11 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]458666[/snapback]
We have fans all over the world and GMFC.net should be their best and most convenient source of keeping updated . They should not have to come on here for first hand information amid the petty squabbles .

It's not just about our fans-almost every other footy web site in Britain will have a link to GMFC.net-lots of folk for lots of reasons may want information about the Ton-even if it's just because they've been linked with one of our players or vice versa. The official site is a non-event, and anybody who SERIOUSLY thinks it's OK 'needs his heid looked'.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 11:12:10
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 11 2008, 10:43 AM) [snapback]458664[/snapback]
Another point of information-Gordon Brown was called Miranda at Uni. laugh.gif

I'd prefer to call him MILANDA-a f*ckin lump of dough.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 11:15:15 I don't bet often though I got second in the Derby e.w!

Anyway, I've said from the outset that Croatia could surprise everybody, but I'll not be putting money on them.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 11:26:36
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 11 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]458674[/snapback]
So did they get relegated the year before??

Blantyre Celtic who made a late and successful Lazarus bid for the Gretna spot and remained in the third Division thereafter with average gates of 27 which the SFL describe as 'promising'.

Morton hopeful of a more fruitful season as Douglas Rae has re-appointed former Ton manager and fans' idol Jim McInally to the post of Director of Football, gasping 'As long as there's breath in my body Morton is not for sale-I've said it till I'm blue in the face and I intend to be around for some time to come'. Jim is the embodiment of what I want from a co-director-he never argued with me when he was here before, and I don't expect he'll have changed. Jim never changed anything'.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 11:29:57
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 11 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]458678[/snapback]
Inside the Vatican, there is a huge monument dedicated to the Stuart's. I visited last year and it's quite impressive.

Bonnie Prince Charlie is also buried in the Vatican, about 20 yards from John Paul II.

Most folk go to see the Pope Spurtle! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 11:43:16
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 11 2008, 11:36 AM) [snapback]458681[/snapback]
That's because most folk don't know the Stuart's are buried there. Unionist propaganda in Schools you see.... rolleyes.gif

Unionist propaganda in calf lick schools

Aye right-pull the other one-it plays 'Silent Night' in German. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 12:24:36
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 11 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]458684[/snapback]
Pooves burried in the panting heart of Rome? unsure.gif
Indeed, agent McB, tory taig teacher, specialises in that.
Assemblies based on the Ibrox Nuremberg rally style with lots of patriotic choons, union flags, piccies of her maj etc.
Goes down a treat. wink.gif

Do you sing that lovely one about my father driving an orange van, or the sash Mia Farrow wore-oh and then you MUST do Rule Brittania-Brittania rules the waves! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 12:33:48
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 11 2008, 12:20 PM) [snapback]458685[/snapback]
I watched it on your recommendation , quite quirky . I'll give it another viewing ,

A neat alliteration incorporating an interesting word we seldom see from our resident intelligentsia!
mortonjag 2008-06-11 12:40:29
QUOTE(bonzo @ Jun 11 2008, 12:34 PM) [snapback]458691[/snapback]
I remember as a kid watching clips on tv of my old mans fave drummer, Buddy Rich.

The blokes wrists went ten to the dozen.

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mortonjag 2008-06-11 12:48:47
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 11 2008, 12:37 PM) [snapback]458693[/snapback]
i told you that we know as much as the average fan does, we did not body swerve it. we also said we will ask ask him this question on behalf of a member.

EXACTLY-nothing, so you'll be telling the anonymous member nothing.

I wasn't having a go at the trust-though Stuart DID make it sound like a bloody secret service-I was simply pointing out the stupidity of Trumpet and his satellite accusing me of wanting 'them' to tell 'me' when in fact it appears that nobody has the real answer! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 12:58:49
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 3 2008, 02:56 PM) [snapback]455790[/snapback]
Oh Really?

This thread has had over 600 views with only 8 different posters actually replying and of those replies 80% of the posts are not about the point in question but instead relate to which forum the post should be viewed in. rolleyes.gif

Indeed and what saddo went to the trouble of checking that just to attempt to confound Mortonjag. Shooglyphilia is certainly incurable for some!

Well my old friend-eight days down the line-still at the top of page one-almost 2000 views-70 posts from 22 different posters, and you'll still say Tontastic was correct.

WHY-simple-you hate me when I tell the truth!

QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 3 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]455909[/snapback]
i'm astounded that a thread entitled 'a question for the trust' should have been moved to the GMST forum.

why doesn't the OP edit the thread title to 'a load of nonsense', and then, perhaps, it'll be moved elsewhere biggrin.gif

See above Trumpet-you can't learn from your mistakes-truly you are a man on a hiding to nothing. I suggest you take on somebody of your own limited intellect. If, however, you continue to stalk me, I shall take that as the embodiment of Shooglyphilia. After all, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 13:44:01
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 11 2008, 12:52 PM) [snapback]458698[/snapback]
no he will be getting the answer he gets to the question, and he aint anonymous.

He's anonymous on this pubic massage board. Stuart made it very obvious that questions to the Trust would only be answered if they came from Trust members. I asked an open question-a question which many posters have confirmed was not only entirely valid, but to which they wanted an answer.

The question about our new Director and his financial plans was initially posed to the Trust-because Stuart had deflected attention from 'being or not being the fans representative' by publishing reams of financial material and talking in financial, investment, and shareholding terms.

Tontastic saw fit to make the thread 'disappear' to what he incorrectly described as 'a more appropriate forum', time has proven that, and I had to re-incarnate it, especially as I'd already had a couple of supportive p.m.s.

Seems to me that the Trust got over its wee hiccup with 'keeping track of the money' and it's now back to business as usual! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 13:45:16
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 11 2008, 01:13 PM) [snapback]458703[/snapback]
All I can say is he-haw laugh.gif rolleyes.gif wink.gif

Hee-haw-you mean!
mortonjag 2008-06-11 13:50:33 Brilliant-just look at those crowds-it's amusing to see how the old heavy 'bladder' made for a slower and more deliberate game.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 13:54:23
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 11 2008, 01:38 PM) [snapback]458707[/snapback]
He doesn't seem to mind admitting he swings both ways as long as he is not a shortarse huh.gif

He's ac/dc-it's a bloody electric chair!
mortonjag 2008-06-11 13:56:16
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jun 11 2008, 01:31 PM) [snapback]458706[/snapback]
Happy birthday Andy, and the other two.

Have a cake, I don't like birthday cake so it's a chocolate cake.

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDA Thornton's chocolate cake-no less!
mortonjag 2008-06-11 14:16:57
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 11 2008, 02:11 PM) [snapback]458719[/snapback]
Yep. Dr's Christian Troy and Sean McNamara. smile.gif

According to the missus anyway.

Aye right! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

So there are NO botox clinics in Inverclyde-I'll bet Pishley's already got at least one! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 14:56:25
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 11 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]458724[/snapback]
Elongating the initial he is just plain silly in this context - you obviously do not know your ass from your elbow! tongue.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Don't be stubborn-everybody knows a Donkey says Heeee Haw-NOT He-Haaaw

You'll be telling me next that a c*ck says c*** a DOODLE doo

or a cuckoo goes coo COO

Anyway-HAS Shoogly paid you off?

mortonjag 2008-06-11 15:02:30 laugh.gif

'Can it be that it was all so simple then, or has time re-written every line'?

Poor Del-he got a rough deal from JM and Shoogly-the majority of fans were overly critical, and when he left, very few shed any tears.

I for one remember the young Derek-as Allan McGraw said, when he was motoring, Morton were motoring. He came back to us largely as a target man, and because we didn't have the players who could feed off him (McGowan included) he took stick for not getting the goals himself.

I hope he enjoys his spell at Station Park.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 15:50:08
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jun 11 2008, 03:30 PM) [snapback]458744[/snapback]
You're at it again - JM was responsible for footballing matters, not Rae. The personnel and the way we played then might not have suited Lilley's game, but that's hardly Rae's fault. He appointed a manager (who at that time looked to be a good prospect) and he delegated the footballing decisions to him.



On the contrary YOU are at it again.

If you can prove that Mr Rae took nothing to do with 'footballing matters' I shall apologise. The information I have from reliable sources suggests quite the opposite-indeed, on one VERY important 'footballing matter' is seems that JM may have been deliberately kept 'in the cold'.

Now please don't spoil this by turning it yet again into an attack on Mortonjag-as I said I trust my sources, and in the situation I mentioned last I have documentary evidence.

You are perfectly entitled to your opinion-just make it clear that it is ONLY YOUR OPINION, and NOT fact as you seem to present it in the highlighted text.

mortonjag 2008-06-11 15:59:46
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 11 2008, 03:45 PM) [snapback]458745[/snapback]
I would not presume to tell the great MJ anything! Why not check your own posts... tongue.gif rolleyes.gif wink.gif


So Shoogly hasn't paid you off-that's what I thought-give him my regards please. I'm ever gracious even if I do believe he's an old duffer.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 16:04:37
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 11 2008, 03:49 PM) [snapback]458746[/snapback]
I honestly wondered how long it would be before the club started charging disabled fans that can walk a normal entry fee. I now wonder if they will start charging wheelchair users too, my issue with that is they would be making money from a area of the ground payed for solely by the fans themselves. no matter what changes there has been to the legislation on disability issues the club can still give any section of the community a free season ticket they want or a discounted season ticket if they wish.
Another own goal as far as the club is concerned. sad.gif

What's the background to this Jim? Disability is not defined by the ability to walk or otherwise. The Disability Discrimination Act was passed in an attempt to clarify certain issues, and it might just be that 'The Club' is in breach-IF they have altered a previous arrangement.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 16:08:59
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jun 11 2008, 04:04 PM) [snapback]458751[/snapback]
you ARE at it again - yet another thread that you are hijacking to suit your own agenda.

Let's drop it and get this thread back to talking about a man who was a good servant to Morton.

This thread is not the place, Start your own thread (for a change) and make it clear in the title that it's another rant against the board, please, so that I can ignore it.

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In other words you were the one who was 'spouting pish'!

Why is it that you pathetic sycophants can NEVER admit defeat-oh and don't accuse me of the same.


Mortonjag is NEVER wrong. cool.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 16:13:43
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 11 2008, 03:59 PM) [snapback]458748[/snapback]
Oh thanks for reminding me Tom. tongue.gif
Another unionist myth is that Bonnie Prince Charlie was gay, he was not. His mistress in Scotland was called Clementina Walkinshaw, they has an illegitimate daughter called Charlotte, Duchess of Albany.
Clementina died in 1802....

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So he once shagged a wummin!

Big f*ckin' deal-I reckon he was a raging poofter who took it up the arse two at a time while trimming his nails.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 16:17:00
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 11 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]458753[/snapback]
But according to the tele the club got advice from the proper sources before bringing in the change

Did it also get advice from the proper sources about a defibrillator?

Anyway Puggs-what's the actual story or do you have a link to the Tilly story?
mortonjag 2008-06-11 16:28:16
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jun 11 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]458757[/snapback]
1. I'm not pathetic.
2. I'm not a sycophant.
3. yes, you are - regularly.

Go into politics, MJ - that's where your talents for obfuscation, bluff and mendacity would be better used.

Now, back on topic - Derek Lilley=good guy. End of.

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That's almost a copy and paste of a post you made previously when you wouldn't concede you were wrong. In my extremely humble opinion you are a pathetic sycophant whom I have invited to prove his allegations upon which I shall freely proffer an apology.

What I stated was correct.

What you stated was wrong.


Mortonjag is NEVER wrong-get it boy? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 16:33:19
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 11 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]458756[/snapback]
I'm not sure what the full amendments are but if they change one area they will no doubt change the other.

Aye-but I don't know what they've changed in the first place. Are you saying that folk who could present at the turnstyles last season with proof of disability got concessions, and this year the same folk in the same situation will not? I presume the evidence is receipt of DLA-proof positive that because of disability the holder requires financial assistance. Taking away a previous concession (even if it was voluntary) could be deemed as discriminatory.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 16:38:48
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 11 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]458763[/snapback]
Forfar? Oh right. Good luck to him.

What are you doing this Saturday?
mortonjag 2008-06-11 16:45:45
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 11 2008, 04:40 PM) [snapback]458768[/snapback]
You are thinking of Cliff Richard........ rolleyes.gif

Don't be daft-SIR Cliff has his personal manicurist.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 16:48:24
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Jun 11 2008, 04:40 PM) [snapback]458769[/snapback]
I find it madness that a topic posted in the " General Nonsense " section about a funny vid i watched on you tube can be changed into another post with people arguing with MJ. I also find it madness that MJ post's about morton and would you adam and eve it Dougie when it's the general nonsense forum.

MJ you are one horrible little man...



Indeed I am my friend-indeed I am! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 16:57:13
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Jun 11 2008, 04:47 PM) [snapback]458774[/snapback]
Considering all clubs have to adhere to it......he's a whinger....this may help..disability legislations..

Vader-can YOU please explain what this is all about-all I'm hearing are stories about some change in rules for some disabled fans.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 17:46:26
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 11 2008, 05:25 PM) [snapback]458779[/snapback]
from what i believe the disabled could buy a concession season ticket last year, the club have withdrew the season ticket this year although they can pay in the concession gate each week, ok, but if they move the goal posts there how long befor the take away free entry for wheelchair users to the disabled area the fans paid for?



QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 11 2008, 05:25 PM) [snapback]458780[/snapback]
id say they would be changing everything if its legislation driven.

Well I'm still not entirely clear what this talk of legislation is.

If the club wants to give concessionary season tickets to disabled folk that's its prerogative. It does, however, establish a precedent whereby disabled people get easier access via the season ticket turnstyles (ambulant disabled folk that is), for whom queuing is at least a significant inconvenience while for some it may be almost impossible.

I'll give you an unusual example-a guy with severe angina doesn't look disabled but it's a HUGE advantage to him to know he can arrive at the ground with no hassle physical or mental-BOTH of which could bring on severe chest pain or even a coronary.

In that respect a decision to take away the season ticket concession from ambulant disabled folk is discriminatory, not only because it puts them at a disadvantage over able bodied folk in the queuing stakes, but because it REMOVES A PRECEDENT.

Logistically it's crazy too-instead of getting money up front 'the club' now has to gamble on folk bothering their arses to come every single time-crazy IMO.

I think the club has totally missed the point-they are maybe not discriminating financially against anybody except themselves-nothing new there-but they ARE discriminating by placing ambulant disabled folk in 'competition' with able bodied fans who in all probability won't even appreciate they are disabled. They are forcing them to give up a safer and more acceptable method of admission.

That is absolutely immoral IMO and plainly discriminative, even if discrimination was not intended.

They aught to get it sorted pronto.

mortonjag 2008-06-11 18:01:08
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jun 11 2008, 04:38 PM) [snapback]458766[/snapback]
A few posts back you said "The information I have from reliable sources suggests quite the opposite-indeed, on one VERY important 'footballing matter' is seems that JM may have been deliberately kept 'in the cold'. "
Practice what you preach for once, auld yin. Spit oot your information, or give us peace.

Put up -or shut up.

Preferably the latter.
Now, back to talking about Derek Lilley.......

You don't give up easily!

You made statements and I challenged you to prove them whereupon I'd apologise. It appears you just made up what you said-at best it was based on what you imagine happened.

I have told you I have evidence to back up my statements-I have also stated that I have shared much of this evidence with several other posters whom I can trust-posters who will read what you are saying.

If you are accusing me of lying, the onus of proof is on you my friend-not on me. I will continue to protect confidences, and will only share information with those whom I trust.

That does NOT include posters like you whose agenda is to undermine my telling the truth, and in so doing endorse the perpetuation of a regime which is riddled with flaws and discrepancies.

Maybe you SHOULD think about what I post before you try to score pathetic brownie points.

Finally, I recall your 'get out' before-aye there were many things about the regime that you didn't like-in fact they were probably almost the same as what Mortonjag doesn't like-isn't that correct, or is my memory fading rapidly and you are one of the three or four who still get a suntan from Shoogly's arsehole. biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 18:15:43
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 11 2008, 05:57 PM) [snapback]458788[/snapback]
The full Ipox experience, Rule brittania, Dambusters, great escape.

We must though, as an academy of taigish instruction draw the line at
"Oh, no pope of Rome
No chapels to sadden my eyes
no nuns and no priests, no rosary beads
and everyday's like the 12th of July"

to the choon of "Home on the range".

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Oh give me a home where the young haggis roam
and the pibrochs are piped every day
where the wild Salmond leaps
on the back of a sheep
just to prove that he's bestial, not gay


Home Holyrood home
where Soapy can splutter and foam
as oft as he likes, and there ain't any dykes
and there's certainly no Pope of Rome.


Oh I love those wild flowers in this dear land of ours
and I love to hear Nickerless scream
as she gets off her rocks sooking big tartan c*cks
which old Soapy has covered in cream

Home Holyrood home
where Soapy can splutter and foam
as oft as he likes, and there ain't any dykes
and there's certainly no Pope of Rome


How often at night when I've been that bit tight
and the whole thing's just seemed like a farce
have I stood there amazed, and enquired as I gazed
'Is Soapy still stuck up my arse'?


Home Holyrood home
where Soapy can splutter and foam
as oft as he likes, and there ain't any dykes
and there's certainly no Pope of Rome.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 18:23:26
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jun 11 2008, 06:11 PM) [snapback]458791[/snapback]
YAWN.........
Good luck, Derek Lilley!!




Saying 'yawn' to Mortonjag ALWAYS equates with having taken a right good hammering-it's actually better to give up quietly, and BTW you chose to ignore this perhaps! rolleyes.gif

I for one remember the young Derek-as Allan McGraw said, when he was motoring, Morton were motoring. He came back to us largely as a target man, and because we didn't have the players who could feed off him (McGowan included) he took stick for not getting the goals himself.

I hope he enjoys his spell at Station Park.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 19:08:33
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 11 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]458797[/snapback]
but at least one person does, probably a few more; those are the 'they'
nor did i suggest that 'the truth' was for your ear alone
alistair donald knows and he hasn't issued a public statement. anyone else who knows presumably considers it confidential. i can't see what all the fuss is about.




TrumpingTon


post Today, 08:33 AM










why do you think they should share 'the truth' with you? huh.gif




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mortonjag 2008-06-11 19:52:58
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 11 2008, 07:38 PM) [snapback]458807[/snapback]
Wrong again Tom. He was over 6ft tongue.gif

What bearing has this in modern day Scotland ? rolleyes.gif I just like dispelling unionist myths laugh.gif

Aye in high heels and measured to the top of his pokey hat Spurtle.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 19:55:27
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 11 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]458809[/snapback]
my betting skills aren't as bad as you think, £10 on spain and Sweden to win at 7/2 got me a nice tidy £45. £3 on 2-0 Sweden with Ibrahimovic to score first at 45/1 got me £138. So thats £183 with £13 biggrin.gif

my luck has turned tongue.gif

now just need a Turkey win for another £100. Come on you Turks!!!

Oh I hope they do for you darling though I have a wee sneaky feeling the Swiss will pull a surprise.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 20:08:36
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 11 2008, 07:30 PM) [snapback]458806[/snapback]
He wasn't brought back to play as a target man but after watching his first match in his second spell - a pre-season friendly at Northwich Victoria - it was obvious that his pace was totally gone and that the only role he could fulfill would be as a target man. Even then he didn't play that role well. He spent most of his time giving fouls away by ramming into defenders without even looking at the ball - which I think was down to his own frustration that he had lost his pace.

What do you mean Shoogly gave him a rough deal?
I've always thought it was the case that Rae's sentimentality meant that guys like Warren Hawke, Derek Collins, Alan Mahood and Derek Lilley were treated well. All returned for a second spell with Rae as chairman.

Derek was my favourite player in his first spell and probably my favourite ever Morton player but in my opinion it was obvious that he was done after that Northwich game. I think that's backed up by the fact that he couldn't even get a game for a Stirling Albion side that was bottom of the league.

Good luck to him at Forfar though.


My understanding was that he was dealt with in what I regard as an ungentlemanly way when he was finally shown the door allowed to leave.

I do agree with you that his pace had gone, but I don't agree that he wasn't worth his place for much of the time-his so called 'co-strikers' were non existent, and in game after game he worked his baws off alongside guys who hadn't the wit or ability to link with him-and sure he must have got frustrated, especially when JM stuck him on the bench and others were doing NO better. Don't forget he was playing up a division at Stirling-how many ex JM players really 'cut it' last season anyway?

I DO think he got short shrift, and I DO believe JM had his wee favourites-only my opinion mind!
mortonjag 2008-06-11 20:12:42
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 11 2008, 07:40 PM) [snapback]458808[/snapback]
Season ticket holders can use any gate which can fast track them into the ground (you know that though)

Of course he does-itchy baws is another who thinks it's a feather in his cap if he upstages the Jag, but they NEVER do.

Scabetic Scrotum I shall now call him.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 21:17:42
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 11 2008, 08:55 PM) [snapback]458832[/snapback]
I don't know how he was treated so can't comment authoritatively. My suspicion is that any poor treatment would have been as a result of Jim McInally's actions rather than Rae's.

I strongly disagree. I thought he was absolutely done in his second spell and offered nothing except giving fouls away by barging into people; never mind being that much better than his team mates that they didn't have the wit to link up with him.
I think you are spot on here SramTon.

I really can't understand your logic-I agree that Rae did always seem to have an almost daft loyalty to ex Ton stars, but it's absolutely cast in stone that he also had the final say in everything!

Your second point-and Scram's-well it IS after all down to opinion-Del was left to plough a lone furrow-constantly expected to pick up, hold up, and distribute long ball after long ball-he frustrated me often, but I could also see that he was let down by LACK OF EXPERIENCE and guile from the younger boys.

I also find it hard to believe that St Johnstone took him without at least a wee bit of research-are you suggesting that Derek McInnes asked Owen Coyle to take him just to make up the numbers?
mortonjag 2008-06-11 21:22:05
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 11 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]458836[/snapback]
I bet you've cut a few toenails in your day... rolleyes.gif

I have in fact removed many toenails.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 21:39:58
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 11 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]458841[/snapback]
its gone off topic again and i still dont actually know what this thread is about

Is that not a contradiction in terms?

Anyway just go back to the very first post, and click the link.

Spurtle's childish sense of 'humour' inevitably leads to digression!
mortonjag 2008-06-11 21:54:58
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Jun 11 2008, 09:40 PM) [snapback]458843[/snapback]
hi MJ. Its not actually a case of some changes for some disabled folk its a change for all. None judgemantal, none discretional. You cant change a ruling/law for one person and decide the rest can be left out. Simply the club has, i believe, been taken a lone of as have many others, when it comes to the concessions rates. How many folk do we know who work ft yet choose to pay with a broo card ? Constantly may i add and possibly be the same folk who whine about the club not raising enough funds. Off topic there sorry. But what exactly should termed disabled? This rulin has affected all clubs...claiming your disabled is as easy as applying to the dla. Proving your disability on the other hand...what is the disability and how does it affect your life. Just the tip of the iceberg.

Vader, if anybody understands what you are saying, I do. I was a Medical Examiner for the DHSS/DSS for almost twenty years-my job WAS to decide who was genuinely disabled as distinct from those who were just chancers (plenty of those) or who genuinely THOUGHT they fulfilled the criteria when they did not. I've also seen disability from the other side. My ex-wife was turned from a very fit and active woman to a cripple in a few short years by MS, and she's now almost housebound/wheelchair bound. My brother-an extremely fit and active man has been destroyed by ME.

I STILL don't know exactly what it is that the club has done, but what's the problem in assessing disability when it's already been done for them? If folk are significantly disabled they will be in receipt of DLA in one form or another-which they CAN PROVE, and let me assure you everything is weighted AGAINST you nowadays when you apply. It's not a tip of an iceberg at all if they check as I've suggested. If they were previously accepting 'disability' without proof-then hell mend them!
mortonjag 2008-06-11 22:07:54
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 11 2008, 09:42 PM) [snapback]458844[/snapback]
probably is, anyway i meant is this about keeping scotland and england together or for them to seperate?



It's actually about Spurtle's burning desire to have them separate, allied to his almost psychotically paranoid belief that there is some devious underground indoctrination force which is brainwashing good Scots into favouring the Union.

Anybody (except Mr Bam who is a Tory) who dares to question Bawheid Salmond (Spurtle's role model and I suspect, preferred shag-- though he much protests his straightness) is labelled a 'Unionist'-a decidedly nasty sweary word which for some reason still comes up without the little asterisks half way through it.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 22:19:59
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jun 11 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]458851[/snapback]
The Moronjag gets it right again !!

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QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 11 2008, 10:10 PM) [snapback]458853[/snapback]
Aye, he never tires of telling folk that he's NEVER wrong. rolleyes.gif

Mortonjag is NEVER wrong! Right and wrong relate to fact-NOT opinion, let alone prediction

Mortonjag-just like lesser mortals- does NOT claim to have prophetic powers on ALL occasions.

In any case that game should have been abandoned-how could a side from a land locked country like Switzerland be expected to swim as well as them Turkeys?
mortonjag 2008-06-11 22:31:45
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 11 2008, 10:15 PM) [snapback]458860[/snapback]
dear oh dear, you see what you want to see, don't you? note further (loose) use of 'you' tongue.gif

in the post you quote, 'you' was both singular and (implicitly) plural - if i had meant it to be singular only, i would have said so smile.gif

the point is, why do you feel so insistent on knowing (and sharing) alistair donald's presumably private and confidential business plan (if indeed he has one)?

i think this is the third time of asking rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

Wriggling and squirming like a pubescent teenager caught smoking behind the bike sheds does you no credit Trumpet.

Stop trying to play games-you are not amusing me and I doubt if anybody else can be arsed any more with your constant sniping.

FACT-many folk feel that it's bizarre that AD is 'a Director' whose personal wealth makes Rae look like a pauper, yet who seems uninvolved in ANY way with the club. Perhaps a little more interest of this kind could have prevented the farcical end to Scott's tenure at Cappielow, yet you'd rather protect his 'private and confidential business plan'!

Is that it?

If so I can confidently tell you to go and f*ck yourself.

If, of course, you just can't take your hands off me-I do understand-I have that certain irresistible Lorelei effect on the Board's thickos.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 22:35:58
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 11 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]458866[/snapback]
switzerland only took the lead because of the weather, Turkey would have stuffed them ( wink.gif ) if the weather had been good, instead of giving me a heart attack. Also i got my wish of two turkey players sandwhiching a player in the first half so i could say its a turkey sandwhich. its been a good day smile.gif

While you are squandering those new found riches, please don't forget our date on Saturday, and it's your turn to buy the balloons.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 22:38:58
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 11 2008, 10:14 PM) [snapback]458859[/snapback]
right now I follow, personally I would love to see Scotland get its independence and separate from the union of the 2 countries. But its probably not in Scotland's best interest yet. one day hopefully. And im definitely not a unionist, probably more a socialist. But Salmond I do no trust even a little bit. I dont think he has any ones interests in mind except his own.

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You are about to be called a Unionist by Claymore C*ck!
mortonjag 2008-06-11 22:41:28
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 11 2008, 10:39 PM) [snapback]458872[/snapback]
put on your finest dress baby, im taking you out for some fine dining!



Excellent-is the Deeglet joining our shagathon?

I'll get back to you in the morning-I'm overcome with fatigue, and the Monkey insists I go to bed with him NOW. It's been a wearing day PT-lots of nasty nasty people with only one agenda, but fing always takes careful note of the offenders-they won't feel so smug when they are permanently nailed to the ceiling by their knobs prior to ritual incineration over six and a half days.

I'm glad I got that off my chest-cant do much about the ageing tits mind you.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 07:32:11
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Jun 11 2008, 10:46 PM) [snapback]458874[/snapback]
That's never stopped you before.


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QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 11 2008, 10:49 PM) [snapback]458877[/snapback]
many?

bizarre?

i'll give you curious though smile.gif

mind you, your last sentence (quoted above) is indeed bizarre, unless it's supported by your snippet of private information. do tell.

i'm just curious why you're so insistent. why dont you write to him and ask him what his intentions are?

oh, and "constant sniping" laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


You are just 'sniping'.
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Jun 11 2008, 11:20 PM) [snapback]458884[/snapback]
No one else think this is the all time greatest example of pot, kettle, black etc blink.gif


More sniping


QUOTE(El gofer @ Jun 11 2008, 11:31 PM) [snapback]458887[/snapback]
COuld you expand a bit on your reference to the "farcical end to the Scott era"? Just curious about Donald's position seven years ago being relevant.

I thought you were intelligent-that is either more sniping or you are pissed.

QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 11 2008, 11:38 PM) [snapback]458890[/snapback]
anonymous trust member outed ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jun 11 2008, 11:49 PM) [snapback]458892[/snapback]
what do you need to bring me into this for? nothing to do with me.

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That final comment from the only 'NON THICKO' made me snigger WDE.

One good thing is that the anti Jag snipers are all firing at once now from the same direction. The clowns don't seem to realise that the rest of the forum can see them for what they are worth, and they are no bloody good to Greenock Morton if they want to stifle legitimate questions about the Cappielow Mafia.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 07:48:31
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 11 2008, 10:17 PM) [snapback]458862[/snapback]
Exactly, so can you please stop dressing it up as fact? Thank you. smile.gif

Can you please learn to read and understand plain English young man. Mortonjag is NEVER factually wrong, and you know it. That was plainly an opinion, as those of any wit will have clearly seen.

QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 12 2008, 01:39 AM) [snapback]458900[/snapback]
There's not really much point on me speculating on what happened with Derek Lilley as I really don't have a clue.

Yeah, I agree it is a matter of opinion. We'll have to agree to disagree.

I'm not saying McInnes told Coyle to sign him to make up the numbers but that is most certainly all he did. In his time at St. Johnstone Lilley didn't start one game - all his appearances were as a sub - and he didn't score a goal. I could've told them Lilley would've been no use to them in the 1st division so on that basis no, I don't think they carried out any research. I think they signed him based on former glories.


It was easy to view Del as a duffer when you saw him as a shadow of his former self. It's equally easy to view guys like Wakey and Kev as superstars when in fact they are duffers.

Derek was a huge disappointment at Cappielow. The truth is that he worked just as hard as his younger colleagues, constantly leading by example, but JM's rag bag of unmotivated misfits couldn't link as well as bloody Lawson's sausages. Attractive attacking football left with Cowboy. One of the reasons wee Gowsa was SO bloody useless at times was again the general dumbness and duffness of fellow forwards and midfielders NOT ever helped by the club's best striker languishing in defence.



Yes- we 75% of myopic clowns have full confidence in the Manager's ability-oh and we f*ckin' HATE that Mortonjag! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


mortonjag 2008-06-12 07:53:20
QUOTE(The Shuffler @ Jun 12 2008, 07:44 AM) [snapback]458914[/snapback]
Mentions in this mornings paper that we are one of several "interested" teams looking at Kevin Cuthbert.

Livie being touted as favourites to sign him though unsure.gif

Greacen's Genitals will not be changing his name to Cuthbert's C*nt! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 07:55:36
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 11 2008, 11:15 PM) [snapback]458882[/snapback]
your arse!

and please reverse genitally.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 08:11:16
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 11 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]458875[/snapback]
hahaha then i shall be a social-unionist wink.gif

but dont ou agree he seems single minded? all he's interested in is independence, not whats best for Scotland


I'm confused-do you mean Spurtle or Bawheid, but................aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh




SPURTLE is Salmond!


Everything is explained-how clever of you first minister-infiltrating every football forum in Scotland under a different alias-I salute your energy, and promise in future to treat you with due respect your Soutarship. I won't tell a bloody soul, but is it true that you take it up the arse, Moira is a virgin, and wee Nickerless shaves her fudd AND her face?
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 12 2008, 06:46 AM) [snapback]458901[/snapback]
the sash Mia Farrow wore

... was that when she was young and beautiful ?

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indeed Newt-in the good old days of eyore, when they suspended Donkey Dave with a Tory rope and the sash Mia Farrow wore.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 08:16:00
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 12 2008, 07:30 AM) [snapback]458908[/snapback]
I invite you all to come online and become one of my friends.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=579056
It must be my mind, but ...

Nothing sinister in it Newt and it will be a welcome rest for the housekeeper's c*nt.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 08:24:24
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 12 2008, 07:37 AM) [snapback]458911[/snapback]
Would he not be Scottish is he came from any other town in Scotland unsure.gif blink.gif

I have to say it sounds better than a 'Scottish Grandpa who came from Gre£na'.


Maybe I should invest my £100.000 in Gretna Shinty club. They'd have far more chance of making a success than yon' football club they once had. The Social Club would be a right wee money spinner.

I would ask Lex Gold to do the official opening-that liquidiser guy could come if he wanted-they'd get a hero's welcome in the wee City.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 08:36:58
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 12 2008, 08:29 AM) [snapback]458927[/snapback]
Now what about investing that 100k in a social club for the GMS, we have loads of craking idieas to make a huge success of running it. wink.gif

The trouble is that it's not MY money. Once my investment starts to produce a good income stream I shall most certainly be looking at ways to support the Ton-but NEVER while the current incumbent is allowing it to toddle along aimlessly!

Is it possible that others out there think the same way about helping the club financially right now? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 08:41:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 12 2008, 08:19 AM) [snapback]458925[/snapback]
So, using MidTon's and Barbarossa's logic from a previous thread on representing Scotland if you're not born in the country; they wouldn't have supported the Polish/Italian pretender, even though he may have had a bit of Scottish in him (feel free to make your own gag Tom/MJ).
Was it the Duke of Wellington who was born in Ireland and stated "Being born in a stable does not make you a horse."

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'Being born in a stable does not make you look like a horse but you are guaranteed your daily oats even if you do'.

Donkey Dave.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 09:00:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 12 2008, 07:46 AM) [snapback]458915[/snapback]



Those English never make it simple-first she claims she's a virgin and then adds 'no shagging allowed'.

Let's cracker this one.

English female, 20s, brunette, curvy (38B-30-38)...POTENTIALLY (depends on replies) looking for attractive, 100% Scottish guy (20-30yo) for NSA encounter. And when I say 'maiden', I do mean it. I'm a virgin.

This is genuine, but there are no guarantees and I'm not desperate. Like I said, it depends on the replies I get. Send me a pic, and if I'm interested, I'll send one back and explain more.


29 year old ugly slag who's been shagged around the block and back and can't hold down a relationship thinks the Scots are mugs!
mortonjag 2008-06-12 09:05:30
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 12 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]458935[/snapback]
I think I was looking for information on Charlie, the Bonny Prince.

there was something on gumtree.com

and I clicked on the Glasgow button as there is no Greenock buffoon.

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mortonjag 2008-06-12 09:07:54
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 12 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]458932[/snapback]
Too crude MJ, too crude laugh.gif

Crudeness and rudeness are mere perceptions your Sexlessness-please answer the question.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 09:11:15
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 12 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]458936[/snapback]
i've no problem with questions, and have done nothing to stifle questions. i've suggested how questions might be answered, and copied the answers of others

i'm curious but not obsessive about alistair donald's potential investment

oh, and constant sniping laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

You are entitled to plead 'not guilty'. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 09:40:22
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 12 2008, 09:21 AM) [snapback]458944[/snapback]
Whit question ? blink.gif




SEE-I knew all the time you were a bloody politician-well you can't evade Mortonjag, Your Hollowness-do you take it up the arse-is Moira a virgin-does wee Nickerless shave fudd and face-oh and while I'm on do you think yer Yankee pal will pull it off or will he need a helping hand from your goodself?
mortonjag 2008-06-12 11:58:02
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jun 12 2008, 10:56 AM) [snapback]458958[/snapback]
i seen an advert in the telegraph a coupl of nights ago, someone was advertising botox, think they came to your house and did it!


Interesting-I'm curious to know more.
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jun 12 2008, 11:03 AM) [snapback]458962[/snapback]
I saw that the other night as well. Imagine turning up at work the next day with a plastic face like Amanda Holden, did you see her on Britains Got Talent? ohmy.gif


It takes a wee bit longer than that to work! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 12:00:09
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 12 2008, 11:14 AM) [snapback]458965[/snapback]

That's a steal! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 12:15:11
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 12 2008, 12:09 PM) [snapback]458993[/snapback]
That's your truth, not mine. wink.gif

I like you-you have a lovely way of saying 'Stop spouting more pish your old paedo'! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 12:55:27
QUOTE(BMC @ Jun 12 2008, 12:41 PM) [snapback]459000[/snapback]
http://archive.nics.gov.uk/hss/051101l-hss.htm

Intresting article on the advertisement of botox.

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The biggest joke is that the fine would have more than been paid for by one treatment-something Irish about that story! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 13:00:38
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 12 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]459006[/snapback]
At the moment we have Stewart Greacen, Ryan Harding, Allan McManus and Alex Walker to play in the centre of defence. If you include MacGregor - he still has a year on his contract - that's five players capable of playing in the centre of defence which is adequate cover in my opinion. If MacGregor does get a move maybe Irons would use the free wages to bring in another defender in his place anyway.

I'm concerned that at the Q & A Irons bemoaned the fact we didn't have any natural full backs - meaning he didn't have much scope for changing our formation last season - but looks like he isn't going to bother signing any either.

If he wants them and isn't getting them point the finger elsewhere.

Shoogly's skint.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 13:06:57
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Jun 12 2008, 01:02 PM) [snapback]459014[/snapback]
Pretty decent looking team we have. The glaring weakness is up front... Wake finished the season strongly but we've got no idea if he can perform consistently. I also can't see Russell or Weatherson scoring a lot of goals for us, it's doubtful if either of them are good enough (whether that be in terms of ability or attitude) for a decent First Division team.

The supply to ALL of our attackers last season was nothing short of abysmal, so I wouldn't be too hasty to write those two off. We STILL have failed to sign a proper winger, and if anybody mentions McAlister or Finlayson, I think I'll greet!

Pantaloons' long throw ins created more scoring chances in three or four games, than the rest of that lot did all season.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 13:24:52
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 12 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]459021[/snapback]
laugh.gif theres time yet tongue.gif

Remember last closed season Bryan-it got to this stage and we all still hoped and believed we'd get signings-then folk started to panic a wee bit and Shoogly, whom we now know thought that lot could 'cut it' claimed he 'wouldn't be bullied into signing players'.

Hee hee-that was choice when the old eejit was willing to shell out £100.000 for McGowan till that went tits up. He could probably have got three decent players for that price!

Anyway-what do you mean by 'there's time'-is Alistair Donald camping outside the Fudgy Wudgy boilers waiting for the price of sugar to double overnight? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 13:31:11
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 12 2008, 01:21 PM) [snapback]459023[/snapback]




SO?
mortonjag 2008-06-12 13:34:25
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Jun 12 2008, 01:29 PM) [snapback]459025[/snapback]
Because we have not been linked with anyone means sod all

True-the fact that Shoogly's skint doesn't.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 13:37:55
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jun 12 2008, 11:24 AM) [snapback]458972[/snapback]
I would hope the intention would be that we wont know who the 1st choice will be, and that both keepers will work their balls off during pre-season to make the number 1 shirt their own.

Cuthbert would be a good signing IMO, but out of all the keepers that are available, I would want Bryn Halliwell.

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mortonjag 2008-06-12 13:43:03
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 12 2008, 01:35 PM) [snapback]459029[/snapback]
Sew buttons ?? blink.gif

So it might be an idea if you really want to encourage healthy debate to voice your opinion instead of posting links to cryptic gurglings from elsewhere.

Mind you I live in the eternal hope of doing one of your wee 'clickys' and seeing Bawheid jammed up Soutar's arse while wee Sturgeon sits naked on a tartan pouffe waxing her moustache with Orkney cheese.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 13:45:18
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jun 12 2008, 01:38 PM) [snapback]459031[/snapback]
4th day of the mother of all hangovers, not a drop of alochol has passed my lips since 11:32am on Monday, surely i should be better by now?

should i reach for the tesco flu capsules and end it all?


4 days.

I dont really have that much to live for.

4 f@cking days!

Be sure to read the label first.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 13:50:15
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Jun 12 2008, 01:39 PM) [snapback]459033[/snapback]
It is becoming tiresome MJ great how you know so much about Raes circumstances

PS Should your doesn't not be does?

Good-the message is getting through then-why is my telling the truth tiresome?

....and my 'doesn't' was meant to be 'doesn't'-I've told you repeatedly-Mortonjag does NOT make mistakes.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 13:53:47
QUOTE(The Shuffler @ Jun 12 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]459038[/snapback]

I could have entitled that 'The intelligence of the average pubic massage board poster' but I won't.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 14:12:49
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jun 12 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]459044[/snapback]
i dont know why everyones suggested mcguffie for their teams
hes s***e

I don't think McGuffie's a bad player, and I DO believe he'll be one of our more valuable assets next season.

Incidentally, I'd happily have seen Finlayson go, and equally happily seen Jimbo go for a decent little fee-they ended up a pair of JM's laboratory mice and even DI couldn't unprogramme them. McGregor off too-no place for him in a small squad. We still have one goalie, no full backs, and no proper wing players.

That would make most decent managers cringe.

The money's just not there, and DI is going to be expected to produce a lot from very little-I feel sorry for him, but I guess when you have a mortgage to pay and a family to feed Rae was better than a P45.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 14:15:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 12 2008, 02:10 PM) [snapback]459046[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDFing approves.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 14:17:29
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 12 2008, 01:44 PM) [snapback]459035[/snapback]
How Long Before Suicide Becomes A Viable Option?
Depends how long MJ has been posting for tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-12 14:19:52
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jun 12 2008, 02:05 PM) [snapback]459045[/snapback]
anyone know what its called
i already get a gaelic channel on freeview, the aptly named teleg

blawin an gael
mortonjag 2008-06-12 14:28:51 Who's in charge of this bloody weather-I want to make an official complaint-it's less predictable than the lottery numbers those days, and it's doing my effin nut in.

Rainy days-I can cope-I don't like them but they don't kid you on.

Brilliant summers' days like they used to make when I was a wee boy, and the Jag's half human.

Days like this when that c*nt of a sun is a pure tease make me homicidal.

It must be Douglas Rae's fault-that man has A LOT to answer for. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 14:33:07
QUOTE(grnklad2006ton @ Jun 12 2008, 02:23 PM) [snapback]459057[/snapback]
Weatherson laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif Its even more clear to me now that we defo need a quality striker. That is not a bad team at all we have until i got to the strikers then sorry but couldn't help but laugh. Stricker surely has to be our main target now. Still not made my mind up on wake, yes he did help to save us and he came good in the end, will be interesting to see him starting every week in a new season. Not a bad team at all folks, but please Weatherson and Russell dont make me laugh. If theres one thing i want to see improve this year then its goals scored and killing teams off. SPL striker needed folks even one, just one or give us one for xmas santa tongue.gif

Laugh till you burst matey-it's good for you.

Better still-laugh at something funny. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 14:36:54
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jun 12 2008, 02:22 PM) [snapback]459056[/snapback]
Its someone called Alison and her number is 01475 888109!

let me know if she is any good mj laugh.gif

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Have you still got the actual ad?

Does she mention her qualifications and how much she charges for a session. I realise that sounds like a risque question, but I'd really like to know! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 14:38:54
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jun 12 2008, 02:25 PM) [snapback]459058[/snapback]
Boozy your a pr1ck.

I've done some serious internal damage and this is the sympathy i receive?

I'm giving my kidneys 26 hours to sort it out or i'm removing them. harsh but fair i think.
Boozy just appeared with a resolve, i take it all back, what a guy.

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mortonjag 2008-06-12 14:49:01
QUOTE(cmdc @ Jun 12 2008, 02:35 PM) [snapback]459062[/snapback]
I think most successful managers at this level are expected to produce a lot from very little. It seems to be the way of things in Scottish football, with not a great deal of cash going around. However, Jenkins, McGuffie, McManaus, Paartalu and even Irons/Collins wont have come cheap - so, all else being equal, we probably have enough money to make ourselves competitive. Whether that will in fact be the case remains to be seen.

Yes-I understand what you say, but it's the highlighted part that is my bone of contention. It's been said time after time by folk outside of Inverclyde that Morton constantly punch below their weight, and until more inward investment is found (it may be very close) we're going to career along somewhat aimlessly. For somebody of my age six or seven years is a hell of an eternity during which I've seen nothing but bumbling incompetence and crass arrogance from the present incumbent at Cappielow.

If you are under-say fifty-you've a good chance of seeing SPL football again in Greenock-otherwise I wouldn't bet on it. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 15:39:33
QUOTE(El gofer @ Jun 12 2008, 02:42 PM) [snapback]459065[/snapback]
MJ I wasnt sniping. I was actually genuinely asking for you to expand upon a point you had made.

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Sorry if I misjudged!

Right-that clown Trumpet was babbling on about my having no right to be interested in AD's 'private and confidential business plans-re Morton'. I am an ordinary Ton fan, just like the rest of the folk who post on here.

The truth, of course, is that he is one of the dying breed who attack me just because I provoke them-they don't seem to realise that they are just victims of my superior intelligence and wit! wink.gif

Right-MY POINT- every bloody Morton fan has every bloody right to know what's going on at Board level-had that been the case from day one with the aspirant weasel that is HS, he MIGHT just have been stopped in his verminous tracks. He WASN'T.

We now have only four directors. Two are Raes, a third, by his own confession, is as useful to the average fan as an ashtray on a motorbike, and the fourth is the ubiquitous and exceedingly wealthy Hun-Alistair Donald.

......and we can't afford players, and need new share issues to raise a paltry million pounds to tart up Cappielow, and while I'm on song, the slightest criticism of the Trust provokes a monstrous knee jerk defence, prior to the defendants snuggling back into their respective comfort zones.


It's already Omerta at Cappielow, and that cretin claims the fans have no right to ask questions! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 15:51:37
QUOTE(grnklad2006ton @ Jun 12 2008, 02:54 PM) [snapback]459067[/snapback]
Listen pal look at most clubs in our division and there strikers then look at ours and tell me thats not funny. Even better look at our team and then when you get to the bit where our strikers should be you see wetherson and russell and tell me your happy happy with that. You probs think your quite a star on this board for your opinions, but your only known because your opinions are as big a joke as you are. Your not the only morton fan on this board mate who has an opinion on strikers, some agree some do not but thats life so get over it. In fact where you not the dumb fu*k on here the other night and when some guy mentioned Dobbie and Burchill you laughed and took the piss for there opinion ?????? Or i suppose you would still have 2nd division russell and weatherson. You say laugh at something funny im doing that now at you, im in shock that your ok with our strike force. Your ugly monkey could do better up front for us laugh.gif laugh.gif . be serious mate

Nope- and you are obviously confusing me with some arrogant self opinionated old fud who gets folks hackles up the minute he types a full stop.

You think Spoonsy and LEAFY are crap-fine by me and as I said laugh until you bust.

So happens I don't-is that OK with you Sir? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 15:55:29
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 12 2008, 03:40 PM) [snapback]459081[/snapback]
Me to. Got to bring Craig down as I am bowling at my dad's club in the morning as well and the Mrs is on backshift. My mum says she will take him down to watch the game in the afternoon.

I would have baby sat if I'd known Weegie-I love running after weans.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 16:10:36
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jun 12 2008, 03:59 PM) [snapback]459084[/snapback]
i dont have it personally, im sure if u popped into the tele office you could buy a copy for 35p and it will tell you more


Cheers but I'm about 25 miles away!

If you spot it again keep me posted. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 16:14:17
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 12 2008, 04:02 PM) [snapback]459087[/snapback]
Eh ? unsure.gif

I was posting a link that was relevant to the subject matter of the thread. If/when I decide to make comment on it I'll let you know. dry.gif



I could have sworn that your link was merely to highlight another piece of typical paranoia about them evil inglish trying to dump nukey leer sites in the Holy Land.


Nuclear energy will still be available when the oil runs out Spurtle! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 16:18:59
QUOTE(El gofer @ Jun 12 2008, 04:09 PM) [snapback]459088[/snapback]
Fair enough.

I was just trying to work out if it was being suggested that AD could have become involved back in 2000-2001 to stop HS.
As far as I can see it wouldnt have made much difference due to HS and his own agenda.
I wouldnt want to comment on AD's finances 7 years ago, but I fully acknowledge that now he is "on board" we deserve to know what his intentions are.
Seems a bit strange that he would only become involved as a favour to a family friend, given his previous attempt to become involved in football.
Taking our own recent past history into account and the likes of S***t, Pe*en and Brealey, it is only natural and right that we should question this.

Again, I wasnt being spiteful (nor, for once, was I drunk!!) just looking for clarification of a point. This is all down to poor communication me thinks

Or maybe I should rejoin the trust.


The TRUSHHT! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 16:24:29
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 12 2008, 04:00 PM) [snapback]459085[/snapback]
Sounds like what I will be doing on the park laugh.gif

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QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 12 2008, 04:01 PM) [snapback]459086[/snapback]
LeyTon is playing you're more than welcome to come down and run after him. laugh.gif

unsure.gif I thought LeyTON was one of the good guys!
mortonjag 2008-06-12 16:30:42
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 12 2008, 04:24 PM) [snapback]459096[/snapback]
I suggest you look at the full clip. It's about the news and how it's reported throughout the UK. rolleyes.gif

I do sincerely apologise-I couldn't stand that effin inglish accent and only watched the first 20 seconds or so!

Oh and I also apologise for calling you paranoid and being crude about Soapy and Bawheid and Nickerless and I promise to mend my ways if you confess your sexuality openly on this pubic massage board.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 16:52:30
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jun 12 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]459098[/snapback]
iv just remembered i will probably see it tonight at my friends house, he keeps the papers for some animal that pisses the floor! laugh.gif

I will get it tonight for u and send u a pm

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My Monkey reads all the papers too, but he's utterly continent--cheers! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 16:59:19
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 12 2008, 04:41 PM) [snapback]459099[/snapback]
Apology accepted. And I'm 100% hetrosexual.... ohmy.gif



It's the way you say it that rings alarm bells!

I'm sure you probably are as straight as a die-it's just that you always sound like you're trying to convince YOURSELF!

Have you actually tried shagging a man, or are you just convinced it wouldn't be nice. I've never done it myself-largely because of the availability of more appealing orifices and the dog, but if I was in dire need and had broken both wrists and blinded myself in some accident, I guess I wouldn't mind the comfort of a nice warm willie receptacle without bothering too much what it was.

Just my thoughts mind!
mortonjag 2008-06-12 17:02:35
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jun 12 2008, 04:45 PM) [snapback]459100[/snapback]
any chance you could make it grub and free beer?

im not the youngest there am i?
i am!

There are at least two of us then! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 17:05:33
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 12 2008, 05:02 PM) [snapback]459106[/snapback]
this looks worse

Warning! Not for the squeamish.

Don't say you weren't warned!!

I'm totally serious when I ask what was there to be squeamish about?
mortonjag 2008-06-12 17:36:14
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 12 2008, 05:22 PM) [snapback]459110[/snapback]
Did you forget me then??

I was talking about young men.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 17:38:11 I'm sure I must have got the wrong link-what was I SUPPOSED to see?
mortonjag 2008-06-12 17:41:03
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 12 2008, 05:10 PM) [snapback]459108[/snapback]
No it hasn't even entered my thoughts. And I doubt very much it would ever enter my thoughts no matter what situation I found myself in.

Sorry to disappoint..... mellow.gif

I'm not in the slightest disappointed Spurtle-you're a breath of fresh air on a board full of pouffes and pervs to be honest.

Mind you necessity is the mother of invention! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 17:46:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 12 2008, 05:30 PM) [snapback]459116[/snapback]
Is it possible to be anything less than 100% hetrosexual?

Och aye man-I have quite a few friends who are 0% heterosexual.

On the dickter scale I'd guess I'm about 95% hetero at this moment in time, but if the bloke next door's in one of his cuddly moods again later tonight-well-c'est la vie n'est ce pas? £200 and the bottle of champagne after he's used it as an opening gesture. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth!
mortonjag 2008-06-12 18:01:42
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 12 2008, 05:50 PM) [snapback]459121[/snapback]
its not that bad, my ankle done that when i Broke it

I only saw two boxers!
mortonjag 2008-06-12 18:09:17 Botox treatment-right-I'll confess up front-it'll save the usual filthy comments which I frankly can't be doing with-I have a VERY wrinkly willie, and I was reading that you can remove wrinkles with this Botox treatment. I don't pretend to know nothing about it-after all I'm a quack of sorts, but I need informed information from anyone who knows even the tinsiest little thing about it.

Provided I get a good response, and IF I decide to go for treatment I promise to post a 'before and after' picture on this pubic massage board-and to Deego and port-ton-'shut it youse'!
mortonjag 2008-06-12 18:12:21
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 12 2008, 05:51 PM) [snapback]459122[/snapback]
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You're only as old as the woman you feel Weegie, and I wouldn't be seen dead with a woman old enough to be my wife.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 18:17:03
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 12 2008, 06:03 PM) [snapback]459126[/snapback]
dude kicked him and snapped his shin bone, foot ends up pointing the other way, watch carefully

Oh the rubber leg syndrome-we see guys walking like that every night in the big smoke!
mortonjag 2008-06-12 18:32:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 12 2008, 06:19 PM) [snapback]459131[/snapback]
All depends on who is going to see it. If it's just your partner/wife, why go to the extremes of botox?

Unless you are going to give it a public airing ????

That's where you are just SO wrong Spurtle-and I think the same applies to folk who are not happy with any part of their anatomy-not one solitary soul who's seen my willie has ever said it's too wrinkly, but I assure you it is, and I'd really like it sorted. I'm fed up queuing for the cubicles in public toilets and I don't feel over the hill sexually yet. I'm also pretty sure I can afford the treatment.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 19:08:44
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 12 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]459134[/snapback]
Unusual for me to be wrong. But I take your point... ohmy.gif

I see we've had almost fifty views already but so far nobody seems to know much about the treatment. That's actually quite surprising-and I say this not as the usual cynical Jag-but as a group our knowledge of most things is pretty encyclopaedic.

Maybe Botox hasn't really caught on up here, though my partner knows one girl who got it done in Glasgow somewhere-she has beautiful breasts-not my partner-her friend-well I've not actually SEEN them but what I've seen is nice and it's NOT silicone, but there I go digressing again.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 19:12:29
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 12 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]459142[/snapback]
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Well they HAVE gone awfy quiet again! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 19:18:41
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 12 2008, 07:12 PM) [snapback]459145[/snapback]
I thought that botulinum toxin worked

1. by paralysing muscles
(do you have muscles in the willie?)

2. Only worked for a short time, multiple injections on the willie! ohmy.gif

The willie's full of muscles Mr Bam-it's actually one of the most muscular (and vascular) organs in the body-I've done a wee bit of research and the injections only paralyse the superficial muscles which by contraction cause the dermal wrinkling-the function of the willie itself would be unaffected and the jags only need repeated every four to six months I believe. I know also that most folk only get botox for facial wrinkles, but I'm sure any wrinkly part can be treated. If they do offers I might get my face done too though it's actually ageing quite well.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 19:22:41 Well I see my tip's doing OK so far. can it last?
mortonjag 2008-06-12 20:36:56
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 12 2008, 07:31 PM) [snapback]459152[/snapback]
Why don't you get circumsized? Then you won't have any drawbacks in life... rolleyes.gif

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I knew it wouldn't take long. For once I was trying to get a serious response-seems nobody has a bloody clue-full of hot air about every bloody topic-ask a serious question and you realise they know f*ck all-not just you BTW Spurtle-at least you've contributed. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 20:44:28
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 12 2008, 07:26 PM) [snapback]459150[/snapback]
As a public service broadcaster the BBC should be ashamed of themselves.

I'm sure the English regions will feel similarly let down. The blanket coverage of the London Mayoral elections was a complete joke, given it was only for the Mayor of one city. I'm sure the Scottish Elections last year will not have had as much network coverage as London got.

Entire episodes of Newsnight and Question Time were were devoted to this issue and broadcast to the entire UK. I'm sure London has opt-out news programmes like Scotland do.

The floods in hull last year were similarly under-reported compared to those in the home counties just outside of London.

The problem with the BBC is that there will be a big press conference... there will be a BBC News team there. BBC Website team. BBC Radio 5 Live team. BBC Radio 4 team. Radio 1 Newsbeat, Radio 2, News 24 etc etc. Completely OTT.

Surely it would not be too much trouble to divert some of these public resources to creating better quality programmes for people who do not live in London and cant rely on the Sky news's myopic view of things, or ITN's increasinly under resourced 'celebrity-focussed' bullitens they broadcast.



If you don't like it piehole switch off-read the Scottish Broadsheets-the Londoners up here don't give a toss that their city with the same population as Scotland never gets a mention.One could even suggest they are mature.

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 12 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]459154[/snapback]
Best post of the day !

Pathetic comment-what you really meant was -thank f*ck somebody agrees.

QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 12 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]459160[/snapback]
Your in as much shock as me, Piehutt with a post that makes sense blink.gif

Well done Piehutt tongue.gif

Don't-PLEASE Sean-we'll never hear the end of this-he's a f*ckin' torture as it is! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 20:51:35
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 12 2008, 07:55 PM) [snapback]459157[/snapback]
want us to state its a nice day or something tongue.gif

Preferably something! laugh.gif

QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 12 2008, 08:27 PM) [snapback]459161[/snapback]
Its been such I nice day, I was dinning out tonight rolleyes.gif

Sean the Trust's 'new broom' at least contributes to our little rag. The rest of the Committee were on here no time back claiming they 'loved the publicity' but they've f*cked back off. Clearly they think they are FAR more important than this little rag-after all it only represents ordinary fans-in that respect they are no better than the Shooglemeister. They claim they want members-the Mods have created a daft and exclusive separate forum where they can mutually pat each others backs-JESUS CHRIST-get a f*ckin' life-we should all be in this together! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 22:24:08
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 12 2008, 09:26 PM) [snapback]459189[/snapback]
I know I know, but I thought it might help him mature tongue.gif

Christ man he's young enough to be my Grandson-maturity only comes with time!
mortonjag 2008-06-12 22:30:08
QUOTE(alexp @ Jun 12 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]459169[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDIt's never fair to mock the afflicted-for the first time I am on chocolate boy's side here.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 22:31:51
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Jun 11 2008, 11:15 AM) [snapback]458677[/snapback]
I don't bet often though I got second in the Derby e.w!

Anyway, I've said from the outset that Croatia could surprise everybody, but I'll not be putting money on them.

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mortonjag 2008-06-12 22:35:42
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jun 12 2008, 10:31 PM) [snapback]459227[/snapback]
BBC news like all of the others tend to be London centric and the futher away from London you get the less you will be catered for. It's hardly surprising given the influence of London in both population and political terms and the same issue exists in virtually every country in the world. No idea if a 'Scottish 6' would make a hell of a lot of difference apart from the obvious danger of more dog bites postman stories and those trite 'human interest' efforts that make up for the lack of any real analysis.

Radio news is and probably always will be vastly superior to the mass manufactured, dumbed down sound bits that pass as news on the tv.

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It's all about 'good' TV-TV has become the tabloid in the broadcasting stakes, and it STINKS!
mortonjag 2008-06-12 22:37:55
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jun 12 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]459223[/snapback]
plenty
the brave ones will invest in property just now and wait for the market to rise again
also some carol vorderman type business will spring up - debt management etc

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mortonjag 2008-06-12 22:39:36 sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 22:46:07
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 12 2008, 09:18 PM) [snapback]459186[/snapback]
Are you coming along?

I'm afraid my confidence is low Sean-the wrinkly willie embarrasses me so much-I want botox but nobody will help-I'd love to come though-maybe I'll self catheterise and arrive dressed as Shoogly! Will I be welcomed with open arms?
mortonjag 2008-06-12 22:52:25
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jun 12 2008, 09:27 PM) [snapback]459190[/snapback]
No cup games either throughout the season.

I'll not be bothering with a season ticket, it's not much of a saving at all.

Correct young man-a patent rip-off-tried it last season for the first and last time-how did that man EVER manage to sell sweeties?
mortonjag 2008-06-12 22:55:10
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 12 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]459211[/snapback]
The man talks sense, Deego. rolleyes.gif

I think you're quite a funny wee guy but you're playing the joker card a bit toooo much these days. wink.gif

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Leave my little Deeglet alone-too many too serious guys on here-it's only a pubic massage board when all's said and done! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 23:02:22
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 12 2008, 10:44 PM) [snapback]459236[/snapback]
Because he likes him very much. rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-12 23:06:40
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 12 2008, 10:22 PM) [snapback]459216[/snapback]
Why not ? I felt like that at his age.

And still do! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 12 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]459222[/snapback]
Ok lets say the Mother and boy are Muslims and don't want to go against their religion, who is wrong now?

Al Qaeda for them!

QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 12 2008, 10:42 PM) [snapback]459235[/snapback]
Tell them to go join a non-christian organisation.

Precisely-no point in trying to join the left handed wankers club if you don't believe in masturbation.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 23:11:12
QUOTE(standman @ Jun 12 2008, 10:42 PM) [snapback]459234[/snapback]
I could be wrong but is this the game which is sometimes quoted as Morton's record attendance ?

Although the 1922 game is the official record attendance, I've seen the same figure quoted for a game against Rangers...with the overcrowding this could be the one.

How on earth did they get 21,000 inside for the game against Motherwell in 1963 ?

It was a dawdle-let me assure you-AND it was pure magic!
mortonjag 2008-06-12 23:14:31
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 12 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]459240[/snapback]
Yes.

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Everybody will be rushing to shake my hand-'Shoogly-they will exclaim to a man-you are surely the be all and end all of our existence'-and I shall smile benignly.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 23:18:46
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 12 2008, 10:37 PM) [snapback]459230[/snapback]
Stewart

Greacen - McManus - Harding

Jenkins - Masterton - Paartalu - McGuffie - McAlister

Wake - Russell

I feel like I'm missing someone?

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You have omitted super Kev-the reason for our survival, and Morton's answer to George Bush.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 23:27:46
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 12 2008, 11:22 PM) [snapback]459263[/snapback]
Maybe the Mother has a religious vendetta behind this in the first place. Who knows, but an 8 yr old wouldnt have a clue what the score is.

I would have more of the gripe against Celtic fans on there hudleboard.com who were having a right laugh at the 3 Para lads who were killed in Afghanistan last weekend, that to me is a disgrace.


Gibby-you are a mature adult-they are not-sleep well my friend and the Monkey and I bid you and all others goodnight.

So its goodnight from him, and it's goodnight from me!


Goodnight!
mortonjag 2008-06-13 06:56:38
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 12 2008, 11:47 PM) [snapback]459277[/snapback]
are your hormones playing up dear? i know mine are.

No they are not-you are just an evil c*nt.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 07:15:13
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 13 2008, 12:43 AM) [snapback]459297[/snapback]
Won't bother to reply to any of moronjag's comments as they are all on ignore, but did he just dip in with some half arsed comments and smileys without really making a point?

Really makes this messageboard a struggle to get through at times.

The huff button ethic at its purest! rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 13 2008, 12:55 AM) [snapback]459300[/snapback]
I accept that news will be London centric - and if I was watching Sky news or ITN I probably couldn't do much other than switch it off, but the BBC is a public service and should make a better effort.

A Scottish 6 would be very interesting, especially to see how it developed away from the London news. Certainly to see how UK wide stories were reported - as generally the Scottish news won't touch a UK story unless it directly affects Scotland.

As for Radio news - I think as the budget to have a regional radio station is much more affordable, the beeb has, to an extent tried to shelf this issue by having regional stations across the country. I think Radio Scotland, and Radio 4 to be fair, simply tries to be aggresive when interviewing people rather than doing anything too constructive.

Broadcast journalists seem to think that the only way to do an interview is to be purposefully abbrasive. No easier example than when they interview two people at the same time who have seperate views. No sooner is the interviewer finished digging someone up about an issue, and they take the opposite point when questioning the other person. Cringe worthy in the extreme.


Those will just be four wee accidental 'typos' professor! blink.gif

A man of my peerless intelligence and extensive knowledge will always find the prattling of jumped up and uneducated nothings to be somewhat embarrassing, even when they are merely posted on a pubic massage board..

Cringeworthy is the somewhat abrasive neologism which springs to mind laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 07:18:25
QUOTE(Magic Mathie @ Jun 13 2008, 01:25 AM) [snapback]459304[/snapback]
After singing the sash one last time he publicly announced his conversion to Islam renouncing any T-shirt he may or may not have worn in the past.

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I like them Poles too but Boruc is a fudd! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 07:31:08
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 12 2008, 11:45 PM) [snapback]459275[/snapback]
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QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 01:23 AM) [snapback]459303[/snapback]
huh.gif huh.gif :

Gidday mortonjag,

Is it still wrinkly when it is ready for action ?

Has it just reduced in volume over the years leaving excess skin ?

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Hi Newt-it's always been very wrinkly but it definitely seems to have shrunk, making it look a bit like a prune skinned chippolata (albeit non-black). When I urinate there doesn't see to be any change in the appearance, and I always carefully dab it dry with soft toilet paper or my linen handkerchief.


QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 01:34 AM) [snapback]459305[/snapback]
Mortonjag, be very careful mate.

In Texas there is a right wing move to have mandatory penile botox injections for sex offenders.

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Those would be deep injections. Botox is normally superficially administered in multiple little pricks I'm told, but nobody seems to know that much about the bloody stuff.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 07:33:47
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 12 2008, 11:59 PM) [snapback]459286[/snapback]
it might feel like it, but

Good-he's finally snuffed!
mortonjag 2008-06-13 07:40:01
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 12 2008, 11:31 PM) [snapback]459270[/snapback]
Best check the government haven't cancelled it first.

Biggest turnover in Christmas trees in the South Side is by 'Stalks and Stems' on Kilmarnock Road-it's a superb florist/fruiterer and the owners are Muslims! wink.gif




QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 03:11 AM) [snapback]459311[/snapback]
perhaps they like to watch ?

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Nope Newt I can assure you our club has strict rules.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 07:46:14
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 06:46 AM) [snapback]459325[/snapback]
Published Date: 13 June 2008

By JOHN ROSS

YELLOW Peril, Blue Meanie, just two of the printable descriptions given to traffic wardens, who are among the most hated of public servants.

To most motorists, they are masochists who take delight in issuing that ticket or enforcing that obscure parking by-law. Not many are on Christmas card lists or top popularity polls.

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Does the Scotsman no longer employ journalists with a modicum of literacy
?

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Ssshh-Piehole's looking for a job.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 07:55:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 06:59 AM) [snapback]459328[/snapback]
You can go to war for your country, legally have sex, get married or be held responsible for a crime.

Now the Scottish Government has called for the voting age to be lowered to 16 and demanded the powers from Westminster to implement the change in Scotland.

It had previously been suggested that by giving Scotland's 131,000 16- and 17-year-olds the franchise, the SNP would pick up more votes than the other parties, which could swing results in key council and Holyrood seats.

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/scotland/S...ower.4182503.jp

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Gidday Col,

Would you be happy for 16 year olds to decide Scotland's future ?

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Talk about asking a rhetorical question-if Bannock Baws had his own way he'd have them voting as soon as they could recognise the letter 'X'.

There is no end to Bawheid's pragmatism. I WILL ABSOLUTELY GUARANTEE that he secretly believes little children (for sixteen year olds are just nippers) do not have the maturity or knowledge to make reasoned decisions about whom to entrust with their future.

I don't believe they are old enough to make reasoned decisions about fighting and shagging either.


If you don't believe me, ask any nineteen year old! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 08:00:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 07:24 AM) [snapback]459334[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

I have just had a BFO.

Would a pubic massage each morning help to solve your "problem" with wrinkes ?

There is only one way to find out.

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I've been rubbing in anti ageing cream for years Newt-I don't believe it's much good, though my partner once did it for me and the wrinkles just vanished-only for seven minutes though-bloody let down that was.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 08:06:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 07:35 AM) [snapback]459340[/snapback]
I always carefully dab it dry with soft toilet paper or my linen handkerchief.
Gidday, mate, were you taught that at Paisley Grammar ?

I hope you wash your hands as well.


Indeed no Newt-it's only been in the last few years that I can't shake off that last bloody drip-just another sign of getting older I guess. I do wash my hands but never in Pubic toilets as they are hoaching with thae germans and my urine-like all healthy folks' is sterile anyway! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 08:09:02 Flight Lieutenant Sturgeon!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 08:11:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 08:07 AM) [snapback]459350[/snapback]
May I suggest ...

Marshmallow daytime facial moisturizer.

It is so light and silky it instantly penetrates into your skin, leaving a smooth and moisturized surface that's perfect for a healthy daytime glow.

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I'm allergic to sweeties, and anything remotely connected to them.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 08:13:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 08:10 AM) [snapback]459352[/snapback]
I thought she was a group captain ??



Spurtle will know.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 08:15:00
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 08:00 AM) [snapback]459346[/snapback]
Nope Newt I can assure you our club has strict rules.

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are all of your members bound by them ?

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Bondage is only every second Thursday.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 08:25:20
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 07:58 AM) [snapback]459345[/snapback]
I don't believe they are old enough to make reasoned decisions about fighting and shagging either.
Except when they are sleeping over with single mums ?

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Does Scotland have an equivalent to Pennsylvania ?

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Shooting (guns or tadpoles) is (like voting) a physical possibility long before it can be done responsibly.

If I had my way, I'd amputate all penises at puberty-deep freeze them-and graft them back on at thirty provided there were no criminal convictions etc.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 08:28:12
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]459357[/snapback]
Ingredients: Rose water, sunflower oil, stearic acid (vegetable fat), mango butter, vegetable glycerin, beeswax, natural flavor, grapeseed oil, rosehip seed oil, tocopheryl acetate (vitamin E), marshmallow extract, willowbark extract, calendula flower extract, rosemary leaf extract, fragrance, sucrose stearate (sugar emulsifier), tocopherol, beta carotene, xanthan gum (natural thickener), sodium borate (natural borax), glucose & glucose oxidase & lactoperoxidase (sugar and natural enzymes).



I f*ckin' knew it-she's Shoogly's cousin.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 08:31:47
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 13 2008, 08:24 AM) [snapback]459359[/snapback]
Another one of those times when hypocritical people leave aside their staunch beliefs to earn a few quid.

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I do a nice wee side line in 'prayer mats' at the car boot sale-they are just discarded carpet samples which I pick up for buttons-the secret is getting 'halal' stamped on the back, and Bob's yer Uncle.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 08:33:56
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 08:29 AM) [snapback]459364[/snapback]

I'd amputate all penises at puberty-deep freeze them

would that not cause them to wrinkle ? ?

Possibly-I've not been allowed to try it yet.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 08:36:21
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jun 13 2008, 08:22 AM) [snapback]459358[/snapback]
If it wasn't for a combination of Gruby Artur and dreadful refereeing, it would have been Goodnight Vienna within half an hour. The Poles are going mental today about Webb's performance, casually forgetting that "Roger" was a yard off side when the ball was played to him to score. Poland have been mince.

But the strangest thing of all was watching the Germany/Croatia game on TV here. When Olic made it 2-0 the commentator was almost creaming himself, despite the fact that a Croatia win was the worst possible outcome for the Poles. Amazing the way that irrational historical hatred can blind you from the obvious.

Bawheid crops up everywhere.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 08:43:41
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 13 2008, 12:40 AM) [snapback]459296[/snapback]
there's an echo in here biggrin.gif
in your dreams - you can be interested but you have no right to know - surely even anyone as dim as you would have got that?

i'm sorry, i just wet the carpet
we're all dying sad.gif

:yawn: (do you have one? etc. )
i disagree, whatever the size of your proboscis, and yours is prodigious

look, are you saying that GMFC is about to fold? shit or get off the pot

we should be told.
you may ask lots of questions darling, but you have no right to receive answers

have you written to alistair yet? if not, get out your crayons and scrawl out your questions. pop them in an envelope and address it to alistair, c/o GMFC Ltd. make sure to mark it private and confidential - that way, you can be sure that dougie reads it first biggrin.gif

have you bought those shares? have you got the next shareholders' meeting in your diary?

have you joined the trust? are you ready to take over from Jim on the board?

i'm holding my breath

Power to your diaphragm.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 09:03:36 It's always great to start the season at home. After last year when we flattered to deceive for a couple of months, I'd actually prefer to see us under the cosh at Cappielow-St Johnstone or Dundee would do nicely. No point in kidding ourselves on against Airdrie! tongue.gif

We'd have an excellent crowd, enthusiasm will be high, and IF Davie Irons has been given enough scope (which I doubt) we could kick off with a real bang!
mortonjag 2008-06-13 09:14:16
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 13 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]459373[/snapback]
Gidday NewTon,
I would give the 16 year old's the vote.
You can do most things at 16 like starring in a soft porn movie, but not being able to go to the cinema to watch it tongue.gif

That is a popular misconception. 16 year olds are still children with immature minds-perfect targets for Bawheid's pandering pragmatism.

QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 08:55 AM) [snapback]459376[/snapback]
starring in a soft porn movie may not have the same consequences as voting for or against independence.
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First minister's question time-Spurtle comes in his kilt every week when Tumshie Top humiliates those brain damaged 'lefties'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 09:21:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]459379[/snapback]
whit ?

are you looking to meet mortonjag ?

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Actually he was just being another pro censorship wallah-the Newton Jag conversations go right over the top for 97.33% of posters on this highly intellectual pubic massage board-they fail to appreciate the depth of the coded messages, the warm love that flows in every phrase, and the fact that we ARE consenting adults in private.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 09:23:21
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Jun 13 2008, 09:19 AM) [snapback]459386[/snapback]
Season book for me, not much of a saving i agree but it's just much easier to walk up to the gate and hand over a ticket instead of having to make sure you have money all the time.

Also the season book shall be getting paid by direct debit, 10 monthly payments that you never notice and that's when Morton decide to take money from your account which they fail to do on a number of times.

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mortonjag 2008-06-13 09:25:47
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 13 2008, 08:52 AM) [snapback]459374[/snapback]
Don't they hate us when we hijack threads and talk s***e! mad.gif


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QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 09:06 AM) [snapback]459382[/snapback]
You are 100% correct, Col.

I should have posted my BFO on mortonjag's personal thread ... A Challenge And Test Of Knowledge, For those who think they know more than Mortonjag

Please accept my sincere apologies.

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QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 13 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]459383[/snapback]
A simple mistake that needs no apology wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-13 09:28:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 09:19 AM) [snapback]459387[/snapback]
16 year olds are still children with immature minds-perfect targets for Bawheid's pandering pragmatism.

fair enough, mortonjag ... however, at the other end of the spectrum, how do we take the vote or a driving licence from an ageing person, who is in "decline" with Alzheimer's Disease, etc.

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I once knew the answer newt sad.gif

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 13 2008, 09:21 AM) [snapback]459391[/snapback]
I believe that only property owning males over 30 should be allowed to vote.

Property owning white males?
mortonjag 2008-06-13 09:32:47
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 13 2008, 09:27 AM) [snapback]459398[/snapback]
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QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 09:29 AM) [snapback]459400[/snapback]

Don't they hate us when we hijack threads and talk s***e!

Is it talking s***e to be concerned about a fellow board member's "problem" with his member ?

Would you prefer us to turn the other cheek or a blind eye ?



I clearly stated I was serious and he told me to get circumcised-he tried to trivialise my disability-now I know how CHC feels when folk mention high heels-and it's just not British. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 09:35:22
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 13 2008, 09:33 AM) [snapback]459403[/snapback]
I think given the number of young people who can't be bothered to vote, I don't see that this would create much of a difference.

However - I do agree that, if anything, the SNP would probably benefit more than other parties if 16 year olds were allowed to vote.


1/10 for that argumentative essay! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 09:38:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 09:23 AM) [snapback]459393[/snapback]
A Singaporean man with a fetish for smelling womens' armpits has been sentenced to 14 years in jail and 18 strokes of the cane, legal officials said.

A court employee confirmed the sentence, issued yesterday, against Mohammed Ismail Ariffin, 36.

Ariffin had a fixation for touching or smelling women, particularly their armpits, and was convicted of molesting 23 women, his lawyer Noor Mohamed Marican said.

"He's got this problem. Poor chap," Noor said in a brief interview.

After reading an expert report that said Ariffin was likely to re-offend, Judge James Leong issued a preventive detention order, which means Ariffin will not be eligible for parole, The Straits Times said.

Ariffin, who is mildly retarded, would often attack his victims inside lifts, the report said.

It said Noor argued against a long sentence and in favour of rehabilitation and medical treatment.

But Leong said he found "precious little" in Ariffin's favour, The Straits Times reported.



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mortonjag 2008-06-13 09:41:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 09:36 AM) [snapback]459405[/snapback]
I think given the number of young people who can't be bothered to vote, I don't see that this would create much of an issue.
Any Scot who does not vote at the independence referendum does not deserve the right to vote.



Do you wish independence from the babbling clown who is currently ruining our best ever chance of full autonomy.

Yes

No
mortonjag 2008-06-13 09:46:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 09:41 AM) [snapback]459408[/snapback]
he tried to trivialise my disability

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mortonjag, perhaps you could consider your condition to be an attribute rather than a disability.

If you need some positive reinforcement, may I suggest you post on http://glasgow.gumtree.com/

I expect quite a few lassies would offer to assess your attribute.

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I could but I'm not going to-it blights my social live, my sex life isn't worth a f*ck, and my selfish team is not existent.

Newt-I AM being serious-I can't even remember what thread we're on-if it's Claymore C*ck's I apologise in advance, but I really need help. Nobody knows anything about bloody BOTOX it would appear, and that was pretty well my last hope.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 09:50:20
QUOTE(El Duderino @ Jun 13 2008, 09:45 AM) [snapback]459409[/snapback]
Eh?

Most 13yr old boys would rather not unwittingly read about some old wallopers wrinkly tadger

I apologise-I had no idea you are so young.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 10:01:59
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jun 13 2008, 09:54 AM) [snapback]459412[/snapback]
"No matter how much you shake your peg,
That last wee drop runs doon your leg......."

If you REALLY want info, try Brian Cullen at Cullen & Bruce in Busby Road, Clarkston. Implant dentistry, laser tooth-whitening, re-alignment, Restalyn and Botox - a one-stop PhotoShop for face and boady.

Don't expect miracles tho - once a wrinkly old dick that spouts pish, ALWAYS a wrinkly old dick that spouts pish....... tongue.gif

There's no need to state the obvious, but thanks for at least treating this seriously. I do confess, though, to being slightly apprehensive about letting a DENTIST stick needles in my penis-I was really hoping that there might be some clinics somewhere in Central Scotland where I could entrust it to a fellow physician. You might imagine I should be the very one to know-but BOTOX therapy just doesn't seem to exist in 'the sticks' that is Scotland.

I also have this grudging feeling that yet again those bloody tooth mechanics are encroaching on OUR patch! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 10:06:37 It's an absolutely excellent idea and it makes sound business sense to 'stay ahead of the pack'.

Unfortunately Hal Stewart had more of that in his pinky toe than inhabits the present incumbent's cranium. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 10:14:29
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Jun 13 2008, 10:07 AM) [snapback]459418[/snapback]
Hahaha, a great system Morton have....



I actually agree with you in principle-if they don't take the money you can't be held responsible!


It does really make me laugh though-there's a never ending string of posters who boast about how they fiddle their way into matches, yet when I dare to ask legitimate questions, they are often the very ones who accuse me of 'not being a true fan'. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 10:33:04
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 13 2008, 10:10 AM) [snapback]459420[/snapback]
16 yr olds' these days find it hard to speak properly so their vote would be worthless. I wouldn't want their vote. unsure.gif unsure.gif blink.gif

It has to be an informed choice, if not, it's not worth it. Let's get in cleanly.



Unfortunately it doesn't, but I totally agree we should not make it even worse.


QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 10:14 AM) [snapback]459425[/snapback]
their vote would be worthless.

worthless ?

it could be priceless !!!

if it changes the course of history.

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A vote for independence could definitely change our history Newt-a vote for the current first Minister's lot is NOT a vote for independence-it's a vote for the perpetuation of power without responsibility-for babies trying to do the jobs of adults. Sure I'll vote 'yes' if there's an unbiased 'yes or no' for independence, but in no way can I endorse the shabby, devious, and 'people pleasing' performance of Bawheid and his wee wummin.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 10:54:28
QUOTE(El Duderino @ Jun 13 2008, 10:40 AM) [snapback]459444[/snapback]
Eh???

I've said my piece and I'll leave it at that.

'Fraid it doesn't work like that!

You said:

Eh?

Most 13yr old boys would rather not unwittingly read about some old wallopers wrinkly tadger



....and you said it despite the fact that I made it plain from the outset that this was a serious topic-OK a few wee innuendos have crept in-that's life-but you have indulged in gratuitous and offensive ageism.

I am a respectable and decent living retired professional gentleman who seeks an answer to a worrying problem, and all you can do is pontificate about what's right and wrong in your myopic and puritanical microcosm.

But wait-you're a parent-good gracious Sir-and I am a bloody Grandparent four times over. The only thing that parenthood tells me is that you once got your end away.

Would you be willing to embrace the concept of 'live and let live' or is that a bridge too far?

mortonjag 2008-06-13 12:44:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]459468[/snapback]

but you have indulged in gratuitous and offensive ageism.

IMHO, mortonjag is NOT an old man.

Some examples of old men ...

DDFR

Arthur Montford

The Duke of Edinburgh

Jimmy Carter

They are all old enough to be mortonjag's father.
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Biologically that is true!

It is strange though Newt-the average age of our pubic massage board poster is-I'd guess 25-I'm therefore old enough to be the Board's resident Grandpa, and all I get is a regular torrent of abusive ageism

If, however, in frustration, I dare to allude to the age of another poster with a friendly 'Son', I'm immediately accused of being a patronising old git/fud/fool/ or whatever.

Funny old world!

....and I STILL haven't had an answer to my question-well I've discovered there's a tooth mechanic at it, but I'd prefer a proper BOTOX clinic. Would you let a dentist stick needles in your willie Newt?




If however
mortonjag 2008-06-13 12:54:37
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Jun 13 2008, 10:41 AM) [snapback]459446[/snapback]
Just imagine that 131000 group of 16 year olds voting for full independence! We'd be bankrupt in no time. The logic of being a sole State is all so very romantic when you look back over history when states or provinces became one.

In this global economy we just could not stand on our own feet when super powers around the world dictate our own economy. Oil and gas that we bring into the UK is being estimated to rise to $250 per barrel in the years ahead. Without handouts from London there's no way we could sustain that with being so far away from the markets we supply.

We need to remain North British and have the rest of the UK behind us. It's good having our own National identity as it is now, we dont need to break that Union though.

That's an opinion

QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 13 2008, 10:47 AM) [snapback]459449[/snapback]
Poppyc***! HEY! that's not a swear word ohmy.gif

That's another opinion

QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 13 2008, 10:51 AM) [snapback]459457[/snapback]
Thats the biggest load of pish Ive read on here in a long time. laugh.gif

That's a third opinion

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 13 2008, 12:12 PM) [snapback]459487[/snapback]
Not at all, I am not racist.

We all know that young people and women are too stupid to vote so why do we let them? Brains the size of a squirrels don't you know?

That's a fact.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 13:02:06
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 13 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]459488[/snapback]
Surprised there are not more suicides from on here given the obvious mental illness of a large number of the posters.

Are you qualified to assess the mental state of your fellow pubic massage board posters Mr McArthur?
mortonjag 2008-06-13 13:09:08
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 13 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]459501[/snapback]
I will be honest, and say that God doesnt exist. Religion was only brought into this world to keep some folk happy that there is a higher being to look up to.

Its all nonsense i tell ye.

...and on that great day of judgement God said unto Gibby-'Gibby thou hast sinned and come short of my Glory-thou hast blasphemed, and thou hast taken the name of the Lord thy God in vain.....................and Gibby did plead on bended knee, 'but almighty God, I didnae ken'.............

and God did smile, as he pulled the trapdoor lever, exclaiming 'Well ye ken noo'! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 13:13:18
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 13 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]459520[/snapback]
Yes I am.

Are you a psychiatrist?
mortonjag 2008-06-13 13:15:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 12:58 PM) [snapback]459512[/snapback]
would that be young squirrels or adult squirrels ?

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Yes
mortonjag 2008-06-13 13:21:45
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 12:55 PM) [snapback]459511[/snapback]
Would you let a dentist stick needles in your willie Newt?
mortonjag, I am never even comfortable when I receive general anaesthesia from a top notch anaesthetist.
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I do understand-I never feel totally comfortable in the dentist's chair-it's akin to rape-not that I've ever been raped- but I'm sure you know where I'm coming from-it must feel worse for a woman-all those bloody tools getting stuck in your orifice without as much as a 'by your leave' and now I hear one of those tooth mechanics is administering BOTOX. Well he's NOT getting anywhere near my willie. Please-does ANYBODY know of any ethical BOTOX clinics in Scotland?
mortonjag 2008-06-13 13:26:27
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 13 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]459507[/snapback]
Speak to your GP wink.gif

And get back on topic or move to another thread !

I have spoken to my GP-he doesn't seem to have a problem with the news on the telly-oh and he knows f*ck all about cosmetic BOTOX treatment.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 13:37:21
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 13 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]459505[/snapback]
Education is devolved. So there cannot be a UK wide ban.
Are people confusing England and britain again ? rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-13 13:43:19
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 13 2008, 01:31 PM) [snapback]459533[/snapback]
All of that doesn't mean a thing to me, is this the way folk talk in Churches and Chapel's unsure.gif

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I haven't a clue, but it bears a passing resemblance to King James Holy Bible speak.

I doubt if there's a 'God' as in that sacred comic, but I do believe in a Higher Power-and I'm NOT talking about Shoogly either.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 13:47:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 11:10 AM) [snapback]459470[/snapback]
Was the Danish league not amateur ?

A lot has changed since the 1960s.

Local lads seem the way to go.

Especially, when we let so many local lads sign with clubs outside Inverclyde.

You sound as though you speak from experience newt! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 13:49:00
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 13 2008, 12:54 PM) [snapback]459508[/snapback]
Err...Stevenson has been told to find another club blink.gif

Is he out of contract? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 13:54:31
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 13 2008, 01:05 PM) [snapback]459516[/snapback]
As i said on another thread before it was DELETED. I wont be renewing mine or the boys one. Want want want. I shall pay as i turn up.

I believe I said the same with my detailed reasons.

Why was the thread deleted.

Are you sure it wasn't just moved to 'a more appropriate forum' like my Alistair Donald one? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 13:57:30
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 13 2008, 01:20 PM) [snapback]459527[/snapback]
http://www.clydefc.co.uk/news/2008/06/12/2757/ you can listen online....its clyde based show but could be useful

Last I heard he was supposed to be abroad--and where's Shoogly this weather, or do I have to ask that question on the Trust forum?
mortonjag 2008-06-13 14:07:48
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 13 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]459543[/snapback]
It's a hangover from the old days of the Brirish Empire when everyone was supposed to obey unquestioningly, and everyone was assumed to be religious and Christian. It's so outdated now and I am surprised they haven't dropped it.

Edited to add: I see from that article that the Scouts have altered their rules now. I hope they will allow the "state" to be Scotland and not the UK...

I think it's fair to say that the huge majority was 'religious' and Christian.

It's funny how we have folk getting their tartan knickers in a twist about PRESERVING our Scottish traditions, while others seem quite happy to divorce themselves from the concept of Great Britain as a Christian country.

I'm not passing judgement on either-merely commenting.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 15:16:59
QUOTE(El Duderino @ Jun 13 2008, 02:38 PM) [snapback]459561[/snapback]
My point is merely that I find it unnerving your willingness to engage in graphic descriptions of your boaby and your post-micturition dribbling.

Apologies if your not as "old" as has been made out in the thousands of posts I've seen on this message board. I described you as an old walloper, but the accent was intended on the walloper. Please ammend to read young/old/ancient/immature etc as you wish.

To me it's astonishing that a retired professional person would think that approaching a "general nonsense" forum on a football messageboard would be a way of finding reliable information on a narrow field such as cosmetic surgery.


Hence my initial impression that this thread is an unsavoury, attention seeking spout.

My own GP has in the past readily pointed me in the direction of appropriate NHS websites due to the amount of myth and fallacy spouted accross the internet.

Perhaps you should approach a health care professional? Private consultant etc etc.

I'm more than happy to "live and let live", but can you please stop talking about your knob on the forum?

I just don't find it appropriate.

Oh dear-you don't really get it-do you?

'Quite happy to live and let live' means what it says, and it's certainly NOT for you to decide either whether or not my behaviour is appropriate or what should and should not be posted.

Your apparent myopia extends further than I first suspected. Have you an earthly clue how many folk of varying professions post here-this pubic massage board is a fund of knowledge about a huge variety of topics, something you clearly choose to ignore-we have doctors, dentists, teachers, scientists, lawyers, accountants, and successful businessmen, to say nothing of representatives of all the trades and the armed forces. I frequently share p.m.s with well over a dozen of those posters.
I HAVE tried to get information through the NHS-please don't patronise me for goodness sake-and they haven't a clue about cosmetic treatment with BOTOX-that is why I asked the question in the first place.

Finally, would you like to tell me WHY it is that you find my discussion of my problem offensive. Has it occurred to you that nobody else seems to care a jot? Do you object to the fact that older men's willies become wrinkly. Do you deny me the right to attempt to improve my quality of life? It's not really about being a parent at all-is it? No.. it's about being a wannabe cyber polisman. rolleyes.gif

Maybe you are the one who needs to take a long hard look at himself.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 15:23:47
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jun 13 2008, 02:42 PM) [snapback]459563[/snapback]
I think the official line is he has been told he can 'look at other options'. Whether that means he'll be shipped out on loan, or he'll be given pre-season, who knows, but I can see at least 1 of the 3 players that were told this to still be at the club next season.

That was my point- a contracted player can't be 'told to find another club'-that's constructive dismissal.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 15:32:26
QUOTE(Ton Bar @ Jun 13 2008, 02:26 PM) [snapback]459559[/snapback]
Thats good, lets all complain about "old shoogly" being skint and not digging into his pockets to get new players, but rather than put money into the club you supposedly "support", you'd much rather not bother helping the club as long as it lines your own pocket.

Fantastic... mad.gif
Dickhead

It's not like me to come out in support of 'I hate manpower' but your post is ridiculous.

He signed the DD mandate, and the club with its legendary bungling inefficiency has messed up through no fault of his. Hell bloody mend them.

The running of GMFC is an embarrassment to any fan with a modicum of business sense, and I'd suggest that anybody who attempts to defend their Mickey Mouse mimicry of a real business does not even merit the title of 'Dickhead'.

QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 13 2008, 02:44 PM) [snapback]459565[/snapback]
Why hide behind an alias to call someone a dickhead.

Sir, you have no balls rolleyes.gif

Perhaps Sir is a wummin Sean! laugh.gif

QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 13 2008, 02:47 PM) [snapback]459566[/snapback]
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Naa, the poll was f***ed up by mistake wink.gif

Aye, but the thread became interesting!
mortonjag 2008-06-13 15:38:59
QUOTE(ayrstorm @ Jun 13 2008, 03:24 PM) [snapback]459577[/snapback]
sorry but if the mother and child's objection is to the queen and the royal family then they should leave the cubs now. changing a word on a promise will not solve their problem.

The Patron of the Scout Association is The Queen

also

That's interesting. It seems to me that there was really no intention to join the Cubs in the first place-the child was used as a pawn to further a parental agenda, and I believe that is immoral.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 15:41:13
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 13 2008, 03:10 PM) [snapback]459571[/snapback]
Aye, no money to pay the staff this month so I'm looking for cheap flights to the Cayman Islands so I can do a Reggie Perrin...

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How's Miles Brookson those days? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 15:44:53
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 13 2008, 03:40 PM) [snapback]459584[/snapback]
So its a wummin wi ball's then

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If your auntie Nelly had baws would she be Donkey Dave?
mortonjag 2008-06-13 16:02:56
QUOTE(Mick @ Jun 13 2008, 02:23 PM) [snapback]459557[/snapback]
Why do you want to hear 'Shoogly' on the radio?

I merely enquired about his whereabouts-no more-no less! He IS after all the Chairman of the Club, and this IS after all a Morton forum.

QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 13 2008, 02:43 PM) [snapback]459564[/snapback]
I don’t suppose he does, he just has to piss on every thread with his obsessive and relentless campaign against the Chairman.
Look at the European Players thread- A perfectly good topic being discussed is pissed on by MortonJag with another unnecessary and unrelated attack on “Shooglyâ€.
Sometimes I think the guy must have a metal age of 12. dry.gif

Would you care to re-vamp your assessment of the Alistair Donald thread-you are another wannabe cyber polisman. You won't answer this question, but do you think the club has progressed satisfactorily over the last three seasons?

QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 13 2008, 03:19 PM) [snapback]459574[/snapback]
He seems to have an intense dislike of several people, including our chairman, also Alex Salmond and Nicola Sturgeon.

Why do you demean yourself.? You said exactly the same when I warned you about Mileson-you were actually quite unpleasant to me several times in that respect. Now it might reasonably be argued that you have an intense dislike of him! laugh.gif

Others accused me of an intense dislike of Jim McInally. Time proved me to be correct, and the ultimate abuse dished out to JM by the vast majority surpassed any abuse he ever received from me.

I absolutely abhor the way our Club appears to be foundering under the present 'stewardship'-that does not mean that I personally 'intensely dislike' Mr Rae. The tide has turned-two years ago I couldn't even call him 'Shoogly' without being accused of treason. Had we been relegated (and he DID want to retain JM's services) I guess things would be very different in that respect too.

Your sometimes apparently illogical fascination with Bawheid's lot again confounds your apparent intelligence. I have stated several times that I favour autonomy for Scotland. That does not mean that I will slever over every ill conceived action by a shower of pragmatic greenhorns for whom I again have NO personal dislike.

QUOTE(pgmsc @ Jun 13 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]459579[/snapback]
That comes about when to quote the man you are perfect I had him on ignore problem is mosted people quote him and he appears on every thread.

My signature says everything.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 16:08:03
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jun 13 2008, 03:44 PM) [snapback]459587[/snapback]
As we all know Mr Jag, football employment works very differently from any other walk of life. It is not uncommon for a contracted player to be asked to find another club who will take on his contract, or instruct his agent to do the same. All 3 players will be at the club next season if they cannot find another club.

A contracted payer cannot be 'told to find another club'. That is constructive dismissal.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 16:11:03
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jun 13 2008, 04:00 PM) [snapback]459593[/snapback]
Surely we should be signing up as many young Aussies as we can rolleyes.gif

It would be good if we had an 'in' on young Australian talent.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 16:17:25
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Jun 13 2008, 04:14 PM) [snapback]459599[/snapback]
1st of all...Im sorry but your really missing the point im getting across, i got off my arse, drove away up to cappielow and filled in a form with my personal bank details to get a season book and after a few months notice that they have not been taking payments off my bank account as i signed for so im making a point that GMFC is a total shambles with this sort of stuff and no wonder Dougie makes comments about getting more money in when this happens, i know i am not the only person this has happened to.
2nd of all... I like every other man/woman have monthly bills to pay and have everything penned down to keep me right, should i have called GMFC and explained that they have not taken money from my account only for them to take a lump sum back from me, i don't think so! It's not my fault this has happened.
And the last thing.... I gave them my personal bank details and they can't do a simple thing like set up a direct debit right, i dare to think where that paper was lying about in Cappielow! No doubt used for Dougie to wipe is arse as he pleases.
If that makes me out to be a dickhead i really could not give two f***s mate.

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mortonjag 2008-06-13 16:27:09
QUOTE(Mick @ Jun 13 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]459600[/snapback]
Fair enough....just on the wrong thread.
If it means a lot to you, and it evidently does, rather than clogging up perfectly good threads, why not start a new one.

Incidentally, congrats in advance of reaching the 20,000-post milestone. Another few threads worth of smileys and you'll have cracked it.

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It's funny how the vultures circle Mick-aye it maybe was on the wrong thread but I don't see any other poster being pilloried for what is an everyday occurrence.

For what it's worth, somebody had stated this very day that DI is in Switzerland or somewhere else in Europe, and suddenly he pops up tonight on a radio talk in. It occurred to me that we'd heard nothing from, or about the Chairman for ages-believe it or not I asked the question in complete innocence.

I mean this sincerely-rather than folk constantly accusing Mortonjag of false agendas they would do well to look at those of his detractors. One good example of the sort of person who regularly makes a complete clown of himself is my old friend Real Hoops, but he's only one of the remaining half dozen or so who still believe Mr Rae is the best thing since sliced bread. Such folk are clearly beyond help.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 16:30:57
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jun 13 2008, 04:19 PM) [snapback]459603[/snapback]
Not like you to stir it up MJ. wink.gif

Wood eye? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 16:34:02
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 13 2008, 04:11 PM) [snapback]459598[/snapback]
laugh.gif aye he can...

.....and if he is, he can pack his bags and sue the club for constructive dismissal. Contrary to what another poster has suggested, football clubs are not immune to employment law.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 16:57:53
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 13 2008, 04:24 PM) [snapback]459605[/snapback]
Surely you mean "phallicy"
Phnar! Phnar!

Phallusy Dave-why do you always get it wrong-anyway thanks for your comment about your son's treatment, but if I stop short at a bloody tooth mechanic administering subcutaneous botulinum toxin, I'm damned sure I won't be going anywhere near a vet for my BOTOX treatment.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 17:16:25
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 13 2008, 04:40 PM) [snapback]459610[/snapback]
So, because I refuse to call him "Shoogly" then I must then believe Mr Rae is the best thing since sliced bread.

I see also that you are back to name calling again. Dear oh dear I would have thought that you might have grown out of that sort of thing by now...Oh well rolleyes.gif

Oh and I wouldn’t go imagining that because you now get fewer people retaliating to your poisonous posts that it's down to some kind of swell of support for your twisted and obsessive anti-Rae crusade. I think you'll find that it’s down to the fact that there are just more of us with you "on ignore".

Bye for now. dry.gif

You could have ignored me again darling but as always with the little huff buttoners you have a selective memory, a dual morality, and limited intellect

You're not totally daft though-that's your problem-you're only bright enough to be a danger to yourself, and your last paragraph says it all-you haven't a clue.

Do you REALLY imagine that the board is populated by dozens of cowards like yourself who hide behind their little huff buttons. It's just not like that my angel-I now have a whole portfolio of evidence to back up my 'poisonous posts' -evidence which in fact demonstrates exactly what is currently noxious to the Club I love. I regularly share p.m.s with many respectable and respected posters who accept wholeheartedly that there is nothing 'twisted and obsessive' about my disgust with the current regime.

You might as well admit that your sporadic anti Jag outbursts coincide with your pre-menstrual phase-at least I'm willing to give you the benefit of that doubt. Needless to say you'll be back on shortly protesting that you're a MAN! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 17:33:09
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 13 2008, 05:04 PM) [snapback]459614[/snapback]
I think you are being quite vain about this MJ. I can understand it you have a big nose or sticky out ears. But to be so vain about a wrinkly knob is taking vanity to a new extreme.

That's where you are so wrong Spurtle-I'm an extremely humble person, and the epitome of self effacement.

I have enough self awareness and professional knowledge to realise that my preoccupation with my wrinky wilie is illogical-that doesn't alter the fact that the problem exists and I will not feel completely whole until I get it sorted.

It has nothing to do with sex-my partner's half my age and has no complaints whatsoever about my performance- (though I suspect some parent will complain about that revelation)-indeed she is regularly complimentary and hasn't a clue why I go on and on about it.

So there it is-we all have our respective Achilles Heels, and for me it's my very wrinkly willie. I believe it can be fixed with BOTOX injections, and started a very serious thread beseeching help from my fellow posters-help which has hardly been forthcoming. Am I being neglected by those in the know-that possibility makes me feel even worse.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 17:38:18
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 13 2008, 05:25 PM) [snapback]459617[/snapback]
No.

I do apologise-which adjective is apposite Mr McArthur?
mortonjag 2008-06-13 17:41:28
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 13 2008, 05:26 PM) [snapback]459618[/snapback]
Yes I am.

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Not many folk would admit to being shrinks Mr McArthur-I suspect you may be lying. Please paste your credentials.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 17:46:45
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Jun 13 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]459443[/snapback]
Ya f***ing beauty biggrin.gif
Any good places to buy decent cars at a reasonable price (preferably below 5k) in Greenock?

Scottish Autotrader. Well done and take care ....the Monkey doesn't want kermit croaking. wink.gif



mortonjag 2008-06-13 17:49:45
QUOTE(stubaws @ Jun 13 2008, 05:29 PM) [snapback]459622[/snapback]
this thread has become yet another tedious slanging match involving mortonjag and a few others, not one reply to the topic is about the f*cking topic! sad.gif

You are very perceptive Sir-Mortonjag pleads self defence.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 18:01:49
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 13 2008, 05:34 PM) [snapback]459624[/snapback]
What utter self delusional petty minded rude and juvenile nonsense. You are like a spoiled little child with no concept of the real world around them. I actually think you need help.

I feel sorry for you now. sad.gif

Well shall we just put it this way, I don't really believe many of the other posters give a toss about what you think. As always, I have told the truth and it's offensive that you accuse me of being deluded.

Anybody who can be arsed only has to look at your profile and posts, to quickly spot your sad agenda.

In my very humble opinion you are an arrogant, ignorant, and stubborn fool who flatly refuses to accept that anything has changed since Mr Rae saved the club from extinction.

I want to make it abundantly clear that I am NOT trying to be abusive, and am not resorting to name calling. That is my considered opinion. I also feel very strongly that your brand of recalcitrant myopia does FAR more harm to the club than every post I have ever made.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 18:09:05
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 13 2008, 05:12 PM) [snapback]459615[/snapback]
He can stay as long as his contract is valid for if he wants to. But, he can be told it's in his best interests to find another club because he won't be selected.

It's just football jargon that's been used for years. Don't be so pedantic MJ !


I was not being pedantic. If a player has a contract he can not be 'told to leave' unless the club wants to risk litigation. There is a huge difference between 'being told to leave' and being told you are free to leave if you wish.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 18:19:14
QUOTE(El Duderino @ Jun 13 2008, 05:57 PM) [snapback]459637[/snapback]
I'm not trying to police the internet!

I was letting you know that I find it unsettling the idea of you entering into conversation with unknown people about your tadger. That's all. I asked you if you could please stop talking about it... nothing more.

I'm entitled to be a prude if I like!

I don't expect you to stop - I just wanted to express my concern. I appreciate now that you don't give a monkeys - your choice.

Sorry you felt patronised by my offered advice. I never took you for a sensitive soul.

In my mind if I wanted a cosmetic procedure carried out I'd firstly approach a cosmetic surgeon. Makes sense to me.

So long as you have made it clear that you are the one who is 'out on a limb' I have no problem with your post, but surely pubic massage boards are not the best reading material for prudes.

Regarding the last part of your post, I don't want to rub it it, but I AM medically qualified, and have already stated that I can get no help within the NHS.

Believe it or not doctors still tend to close ranks and feel threatened by 'alternative therapies' and although BOTOX has a couple of clinical indications, it is largely regarded as a form of beauty treatment.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 18:43:20 I believe that he is saying in public what the majority think in private.

In any society there is no place for disrespect and discourtesy. That does not mean that folk should be forced to change their perception of the world by others. Indeed I do not believe they can.

Modern British society is riddled with self perpetuating organisations-if your job is to promote political correctness and you're not seen to be doing it-P45. Thus we have had a growing cancer of PC wallahs who in secret probably don't give any greater a f*ck about PC that the average Thomasina, Dickina, or Henrietta.

I notice the parents of a Down's Syndrome boy with a mental age of 5 who was charged by the Fiscal with a racially aggravated assault on an Asian college mate are suing the Crown Office after it dropped the case. I not only hope they win, but hope it gets huge publicity.

I have discovered that anyone who pays undue attention to PC issues invariably has a hidden (or not so hidden) agenda.

When I was a wee boy my Granny used to recite:

Eeny, meanie manny mo
Catch a *potential ethnic slur removed* by the toe.



Why should I be prevented from passing on a childhood experience?

My granny was a lovely person who treated everybody with the same warmth and open mindedness-the fact that she had never seen a black person in her whole life would have made no difference had one walked through her door, and in all probability she'd have recited her wee poem to him too in complete innocence.

PC sucks!
mortonjag 2008-06-13 18:58:46
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 13 2008, 06:15 PM) [snapback]459643[/snapback]
16 year olds who don't care...wont vote.

Those who take the time to care and know about the parties will vote.

Just because you are 16 does not make you a moron. I doubt in the years between me being 16 and 18 I had matured at all, if by 16 you are not mature when it is required you probably wont ever be.

The thing about timeless sayings Puggs is that they are almost invariably correct, and you just CAN'T put an old head on young shoulders.

Your analysis of who will and won't vote if the age is dropped to 16 is very simplistic-folk vote (or don't vote) for a variety of different reasons. I strongly suspect that the majority of 16 year olds don't care passionately one way or the other about voting-I also strongly suspect that new legislation to lower the age would result in a concerted publicity campaign by Bawheid aimed at programming the new breed into believing not only that they must exercise their right, but must put their wee cross at SNP.

Just because you're six doesn't make you a moron either and there are plenty of dead morons who voted throughout their lifetimes. Does that mean we should lower the voting age to six?

Mr McArthur was to some degree correct-we would do well to raise the voting age to 21 I'd suggest.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 19:02:15
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 13 2008, 06:56 PM) [snapback]459652[/snapback]
Hons Accounting graduate (2.1 with 3 first class passes in his final year) wants a decent job, not looking for major bucks but enough to get by in this world.

Does not want to be an accountant though.
Yours,

Puggs

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Well done-I DO hope the qualification has been obtained from a proper university.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 19:08:53
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 13 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]459646[/snapback]
Can we not please stick to the thread topic? rolleyes.gif

You're very easily wound up MJ, you should take a deep breath and think before you post. smile.gif

Hmm-perhaps I am, but certainly not by the previous poster. I have no intention of elaborating here. If you want more information feel free to join the growing band of p.m. friends of Mortonjag. You might be surprised to experience the undoubted pleasure that will convey.

Oh and as for sticking to the thread-were you expecting a seven page in depth debate about a simple announcement that DI's on tonight's wireless? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 19:19:58
QUOTE(El Duderino @ Jun 13 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]459658[/snapback]
Nope. Public message boards are fair game whether you're prudish and straightlaced, or completely radical in your views and opinions.

As I said, If you are getting nowhere within the NHS then you might get somewhere with a cosmetic surgeon privately

I can assure you that I have researched that area-I used the term NHS loosely-you are probably aware that in Scotland there is really no such thing as a consultant who works solely in the private sector. Those who do will not get GP referrals and will have to rely on Private clinics with relevant advertising, which brings me full circle. Where can I get BOTOX treatment for my very wrinkly willie?
mortonjag 2008-06-13 19:23:38
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 13 2008, 07:09 PM) [snapback]459665[/snapback]
Maybe not a proper uni per say.
But the business school has a very good reputation smile.gif

...and it had the hotter birds!

So your 'degree's a wee bit like your banknote? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 19:26:08
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 13 2008, 07:23 PM) [snapback]459676[/snapback]
Hey Cutey, don't worry about little sparky. I told you I love the wee man just the way he is.

xxx

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Please don't hi-jack my serious thread. I shall perhaps weep!
mortonjag 2008-06-13 19:29:37
QUOTE(Toby @ Jun 13 2008, 07:20 PM) [snapback]459675[/snapback]
I'll be grudgingliy renewing my season ticket again. My first was in 95/96 and I've had one ever since.

Whilst I'm happy with the new management set up and expect an imrovement on last year I really object to buying one but don't feel I can't have one. Captive audience and all that....

What are the benefits of being a season ticket holder after all? We'll get 18 league games, no cup ties and I doubt the Hartlepool friendly will be on the season ticket. You do however get reduced entry to hospitality, something that's of no interest to me as I don't fancy sharing my leisure time with Inverclyde's resident tooth rotter. Last season the only benefits that Morton's supposedly loyalest fans got from being season ticket holders was priority to get tickets for a Challenge Cup tie at East Stirling..... Hardly merits the outlay.

And also, if I was to travel from East Kilbride to Greenock every second Saturday to go to a cinema only to be told by the owner of that cinema that I'm not as valued a customer as the blokes that go to the cinema in the east end of Glasgow, I wouldn't be giving him my custom for too long.

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mortonjag 2008-06-13 19:32:49
QUOTE(ianton @ Jun 13 2008, 07:26 PM) [snapback]459678[/snapback]
mortonjag i wish you would get to fcuk off this board.go and start your own forum.you are the most ignorant person that i have ever came across in forums.you can never stick to the subject,you have got to twist the subject out of context.thank fcuk i have you on ignore.you are nothing but a self centered old b*****d.

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mortonjag 2008-06-13 22:38:10
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 13 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]459720[/snapback]
yes, we know laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-13 22:41:04
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 13 2008, 08:52 PM) [snapback]459733[/snapback]
Have you tried running a very hot iron over it?

Will it work?
mortonjag 2008-06-13 22:47:45
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Jun 13 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]459732[/snapback]
Kermint is fine, he's got a frog-seat waiting to be fitted once I buy a car.
I have the pass plus booked for Monday and Tuesday morning also, which should reduce the insurance although I'm not sure if it's worth it.

Maybe someone who's taken it could clarify.

I'd advise you to be very careful indeed-not every frog seat fits every car. I don't want to alarm you but one of my very best friends lost a frog in a car accident last July. He just bought the seat on e-bay with no fitting instructions, and thought he had secured it properly. Off he went for a drive in the country- hit a patch of diesel and totally lost control. He was fine but the car was a write off and they had to scrape the frog off a tree-well they didn't have to- but he wanted to give the puree a decent burial. So-be careful!
mortonjag 2008-06-13 22:54:40
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 13 2008, 07:28 PM) [snapback]459682[/snapback]
Awesome...can't wait to start!
Sorry Ghost...I'm out!
Ah so you are a snob eh? Ach well..at the end of the day I know for a fact we got taught the exact same stuff...not much you can do with accounts seeing as it is followed by law smile.gif

I'm not sure if snob is the correct word but those days 'I have a Uni degree' means very little until it's qualified.

QUOTE(Mick @ Jun 13 2008, 10:10 PM) [snapback]459763[/snapback]
Puggs,

Do yourself a favour and get your exams. With the number of exemptions you'll get from your degree you can be done in two years, and time served in three.

Yeah, it's not particularly glamorous (ask Cowshed Chris, who I believe is part way through his exams?) but I personally believe it's short term pain for long term gain.
When you've seen the light and moved out of practice, you can do what the hell you like.....

It's usually well worth while to make the extra sacrifice-I agree.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 23:00:51
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 13 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]459716[/snapback]
It's just football jargon to make it easier for the humble football fan to understand. It happens, and is said, at every club. I'm sure both player and the club have the legalities in place to protect each other.

The normal jargon is 'told he CAN leave' which is very different from 'told to leave'.

I'm not sure who this humble football fan is. The average football fan can understand plain English.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 23:08:06 What's all this-a wicked conspiracy to discredit the Club and get some poor soul his jotters.

OK-somebody made a wee mistake-those things happen-some of you guys would do well to take a long hard look at yourselves before you wantonly criticise folk who are only doing their best.

It would be different if the running of the club was an utter farce, or the fans were being sold short, but hey, cut them a wee bit slack.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 23:22:00 The Chairman has become a liability. Those who are privy to variable amounts of background information are in no doubt about that. Furthermore we still have no answer to the role of the mysterious Mr Donald. He's quite simply NOT there in an advisory capacity-Mr Rae listens to nobody-FACT. He said he wouldn't be investing money 'at that stage' in the solitary statement he made to the Tilly.

...and he IS worth a King's ransom-so what the f*ck's going on behind closed doors. We've just had a new share issue to (I'm led to believe) bring the Stadium up to SPL standard, yet Rae's not spending a penny on the players he needs to get us there.

Somebody else-Chrissiboi perhaps, recently asked why the Chairman can't just come out in the open with a statement of pros and cons for the future. I for one would grant him at least a grain of respect if he showed that he gave a fig for what the fans think.

I smell a rat.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 23:29:09
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 13 2008, 11:10 PM) [snapback]459795[/snapback]
doesn't that only remove them from your index - they stay on the server?

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OH DEAR

Tontastic-somebody hi-jacked my account yon time I told MidTONs I thought you were a self satified arrogant p***k with your head well up your own arse! If you try hard enough I'm sure you'll find it was TrumpingTon-he clearly knows all about those things-AND he's an evil c*nt.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 23:36:15
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 13 2008, 11:31 PM) [snapback]459804[/snapback]
and when i agreed in the return PM I had left myself signed on and Sean and a wee go on my PC.

I don't trust that Sean either-remember what I told you about him in my recent pm-how he thinks he's going to become the new fans representative on the board and stuff and how Shoogly let me in on the real truth behind Jim McColl when I was down for dinner.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 23:44:42
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 13 2008, 11:40 PM) [snapback]459806[/snapback]
Thats right point the finger at me , its hard enough to get them to answer my question about how long it would take to get to full development status at youth level , without asking about a medium to longterm plan for the whole club . laugh.gif

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Well somebody DID say it-Toby perhaps-anyway I've said it now.

Am I the only fan who is sick of the 'need to know basis' arrogance of 'the Club'?
mortonjag 2008-06-13 23:51:19
QUOTE(Rossco @ Jun 13 2008, 11:42 PM) [snapback]459808[/snapback]
Since Monday night my pc was freezing randomly during normal operation tried the usual starting in safe mode trying to run few registry programmes but these were freezing halfway through.

Eventually the freezing got worse after logging in was getting 5 mins max before it was ceasing up.

Was also freezing in safe mode however, one of the times I ran a scan it said that was boot problem but was unable to read it due to pc shuttin down instead of freezing.

Eventually I gave up & tried reinstalling operating system this made no diference at all pc was still freezing & then had a half installed operating system.

Eventually managed to restore to factory settings after sheer persistence & a few colourful phrases but the freezin problem still occurs which means I am unable to set up windows for 1st use.

The pc is a Dell Inspirion with 2Gb Ram & was only purchased in February & this is the 1st problem Ihave had with it.

The Dell site is s*** so have no idea whether dell has a warranty thing that would cover me (probably not & hould have purchased the service thing with my pc)

Anybody offer any advice on what may be causing the freezing & offer any solutions I can made run from the Bios menu/ boot menu?

I'm pretty certain Dell cover all their stuff for the first year.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 00:00:19
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 13 2008, 11:47 PM) [snapback]459810[/snapback]
Thats how I see things also the longer the bumbling continues the more damage DDFR is doing to his reputation.

The damage is well and truly done-there are still a few who won't hear a bad word said in public but not one solitary poster now defends his stewardship of the club. Indeed I sometimes wish somebody would demonstrate all the good things he's done in the last three years instead of simply attacking those who believe he's done nothing.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 00:04:27
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 14 2008, 12:01 AM) [snapback]459815[/snapback]
After someone highlighted problems at the turnstiles this is another worrying tale .

Yes it would be different if the running of the club were an utter farce but sometimes they don't seem to reach those high standards .

Indeed- I'd suggest tragedy may be more apposite! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-14 08:04:08
CHALLENGE




Right Andy, here goes- Mortonjag's mighty pissed off with all the abuse he gets for being a really nice chap. sleep.gif Now the problem here is that Mortonjag will only be generous if he gets an apology from some of the misguided morons who think he's just an old 'bawbag' and is scared of Auld Shoogly.

So here's how it will work-(from now till the start of the new season) Mortonjag will sponsor the first away match at Dingwall by matching every donation to the webcast effort pound for pound up to a total of £100. Today you can already have that £200 in the kitty if one of my detractors wil put HIS money where his mouth is.

All Mortonjag asks in return is that those pledges are made on this thread and signed 'Mortonjag is a good egg'! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

There you go Andy -they keep accusing the Jag of being an old windbag. Will they match me up to that magic £100. Which lovely person will be first-Spurtle, Tontastic, Ratarse, Trumpet, Professor Piehole, good gracious-I could go on and on-that Alibi's minted I'm told and Tonsilitis could buy Golden Casket with his pocket money. Mr Bam hides up there in the leafy Mearns pleading church mouse poverty, and last but not least I have to mention Mr Edwards and his wee friend trois maisons-Belgium's answer to Donald trump.


I challenge some of those better heeled afficionados to pledge £100 each, PROVIDED the combined target of £200 is reached by the start of the season.

This can work guys-if ten of you pledge a tenner and eight pledge £100 we'll have a grand in the kitty before the season's even kicked off

mortonjag 2008-06-14 08:13:56
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jun 14 2008, 06:01 AM) [snapback]459845[/snapback]
Only the bold jag could come away with this statement but if it were dougies doing woe betide him

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How much will you be pledging to the webcast? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-14 08:16:51
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 14 2008, 08:01 AM) [snapback]459846[/snapback]
It's not as bad as some on here make out. And it's not as good as some at the Club make out.
We will have both good and bad times. We have seen the really bad times in our recent history, so perhaps some good times are just around the corner. rolleyes.gif
For the immediate season ahead, we should by the Law of Averages get a decent Cup run and finish in the top half of the league.
If you are looking further ahead, I expect to be in the SPL within 5 years.

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Could be true Spurtle!

How much will you be pledging to the webcast? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-14 08:22:17
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 14 2008, 03:21 AM) [snapback]459836[/snapback]
Puggsy you stupid c***, go study something useful, like how to get your hole before you're 30. Do it.

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mortonjag 2008-06-14 08:35:12
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 14 2008, 02:17 AM) [snapback]459833[/snapback]
Complete and utter dung. Completely fabricated inflammatory dung.

Andy Rooney said none of that. As any simple google would tell you.

I really do f�ck�ng despair at times.

If you agree with sh�t� like this please say it. But don't hide behind the fact that "someone else said and I agree" as an easy in or a cop out. Or pretend that because someone famous said it that it's OK to agree cos someone said what you thought.

Fairplay to the bewildered beast - this is what he thinks and agrees with.

For me, it's a great example of intolerance and appealing to a discriminatory agenda at it's base level - but each to their own.

TonInDublin


I most certainly agree in principle with some of 'that s***' TiD.


It's gets back to the old moral from 'the Emperor's new clothes'-no PC wallah is EVER going to force folk to change their perception of reality.


I endorse common decency-I believe in 'Do unto others as you would have them do to you'-indeed I live by what used to be allowed to be called *potential ethnic slur removed* values. wink.gif


QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 14 2008, 03:03 AM) [snapback]459834[/snapback]
Catch a *potential ethnic slur removed* by the toe.

Next you'll be telling us that you had a black boy money box.

No, but there was one in Blackwood the Butcher's on Lochwinnoch road-you put an 'old' penny in the little *potential ethnic slur removed*'s hand and pulled a lever at the side whereupon he 'ate' it. It used to fascinate me-I was always fascinated by mechanical devices, and should never have gone into medicine.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 08:41:02
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 14 2008, 03:29 AM) [snapback]459839[/snapback]
Why make members swear allegiance to a Christian God then? They're a Christian organisation.

I'm not Jewish and I would never consider joining, or protesting against, a Jewish celebration. Should I? I'd probably get sympathy.

I thought they just swore allegiance to 'God'-given that that's such an airy fairy concept and most of them are just wee fairies anyway, does it really matter?
mortonjag 2008-06-14 08:45:24
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Jun 14 2008, 08:07 AM) [snapback]459848[/snapback]
To be fair to the seller on ebay - it does state, in extreme circumstances, the frog has a tendancy to go flying from the seat andsplatter against nearby objects. I suppose it's just one of the risks to be taken.

That's absolutely true : never was the saying CAVEAT EMPTOR more compelling than when buying frog seats or toad stools on the internet.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 08:49:15
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 14 2008, 08:31 AM) [snapback]459855[/snapback]
Sounds a bit painful if you ask me. huh.gif unsure.gif

Don't be a Silly Billy-I meant copy and paste your certificate of membership of the Royal College of Psychiatry.

But solvite your scrotum if that seems more acceptable.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 08:54:51
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 14 2008, 08:39 AM) [snapback]459858[/snapback]
I'm in agreement with some other folks here. You should def get in with an accountancy firm and take a hit for a few years and do some exams. Yes, this job will be very accountant-ish, and the money will probably be total crap for a few years, but it will def be better in the long run - especially if you are prepared to move about.

Other careers - financial services is a decent place to get into and has decent prospects. If you want to be an IFA and have a bit of good fotrune you could be earning £100,000 by the time you are in your early 30's.

Avoid a call centre like the plague! Even if the money seems decent (which is unlikely). These places will sap the ambition from you and take years from your life!

Also - recruitment consultants! Be aware that jobs advertised on companies websites often do not exist, or are not directly available to that company. Your best bet is to e-mail or phone someone in their local office and go and see them. Also - these people only get paid if they find you a job, so be wary of what they want to propose for you and only go for jobs you fancy. They will likely play the numbers game and send you for about 10 interviews.

PM me if you want and I can give you some details of someone I've had a bit of success with.


You sound like a pretty successful chap Piehole-will you be making a contribution to the webcast-remember the Jag will match you pound for pound up to a total of £100.

Oh-maybe some kind soul could quote this post for the Professor's benefit.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 09:00:48
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 14 2008, 08:48 AM) [snapback]459863[/snapback]
If you pledge to the "country" what country would that be then ? I could never pledge alliegance to britain. So would nationalists be barred too ?

Good for you Spurtle-it's easy to say that from the relative comfort of your padded cell, but my Old Man had no choice in 1939-well not QUITE true-he could have chosen an un-padded one.

Anyway-important matters-have you pledged anything to the webcast yet-remember you can make me part with luvly munny! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-14 09:08:38
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 14 2008, 08:39 AM) [snapback]459859[/snapback]
how low can you go Doctor? offering cash incentives for people to apologize to you, very sad. If you really want people to believe that your not scared of 'Auld Shoogly' then the route that i believe that you should take is to stop highjacking threads that do not involve Dougie Rae and then convince the 'unbelievers' with facts, not sly digs at someone who doesn't post on this board (maybe he does, i dont know). Start a 'Shoogly out' campaign where you can use your cash incentives to pay for t-shirts and badges for people sympathetic with your views. Its really not about the money, like many posters on this board i could match your cash incentives, but what does that prove? nothing. I am not one of those 'Dougie can do no wrong' fans, but i am yet to be convinced fully that he has been/is a detrimental force at the club. So convince me and i will join your happy wee gang, but i would want to see facts not bribes.

So you do not intend to contribute to a thoroughly good cause because you're too daft to see what's really going on! rolleyes.gif

Lighten up man-wake up and smell the coffee-donate even a measly pound and I'll match it-I'll even let you sign it-Mortonjag's a pish spouting paedo! wink.gif

That's a special offer by the way-cos I really like you. Mortonjag likes all Ton supporters except Real Hoops, but if he makes a contribution, Mortonjag will like him too.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 09:13:14
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 14 2008, 08:34 AM) [snapback]459856[/snapback]
Eh ? blink.gif Whit webcast ?

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It's on another forum Spurtle-c'mon man geeza wee donation-I'l match you pound for pound up to £100, and for anything over a fiver I'll not say a bad word about the SNP for a full week-PROMISE! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-14 09:17:27
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jun 14 2008, 08:40 AM) [snapback]459860[/snapback]
when I am at home I go to every game and only do the webcast if I cant make it........................home or away

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It's becoming clear that those sub-forums don't work AJC-I'm matching donations to Andy's webcast up to £100-see the other forum. Anything over a fiver, and I'll buy you a Killie Pie if you're willing to pick it up in Glasgow! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-14 09:59:42
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 14 2008, 09:52 AM) [snapback]459872[/snapback]
You're only interested in it cos your drunk ya user sad.gif

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Hey Puggs-now that you can no longer plead poor student poverty, would you care to get the ball rolling by making a little donation to the webcast which the good Jag will match pound for pound?

I know you make about £50,000 p.a. in piping fees, but so far I've not dropped you in it with the Revenue.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 10:09:38 Police said Long, 45, watched and listened while Honeycutt, 38, sexually assaulted the boys.

The mother of two reportedly also showed her breasts, "open-mouth kissed" some of the boys, engaged in a sexual conversation and entered the shower with a miner.



Nothing wrong with cleaning off the coal dust before action.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 10:14:44
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jun 14 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]459875[/snapback]
Cheers for that GMFC.

As for the rest of the dross posted, do we really have to wade through the same s*** on every thread?

Get the finger oot Edinton.

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I didn't know GMFC and Edinton were quite so close.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 10:18:00
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 14 2008, 10:06 AM) [snapback]459883[/snapback]
The patented MJ "highlight one wee bit in pink and avoid all other questions" wink.gif

Which questions did Mortonjag avoid?
mortonjag 2008-06-14 10:20:22
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jun 14 2008, 09:58 AM) [snapback]459877[/snapback]
nice one biggrin.gif

TY smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-14 10:24:29
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 14 2008, 10:07 AM) [snapback]459884[/snapback]
I'm now pleading "need a job" poverty laugh.gif

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That'll be a 'no' I take it. Maybe this is going to be harder than I thought. I imagined folk would want to take money off the Jag! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Oh well-the real loser will be the Ton.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 10:40:40
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 14 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]459893[/snapback]
look, are you saying that GMFC is about to fold? s*** or get off the pot
I didn't understand that question. English is my native tongue.
have you written to alistair yet?
I never suggested I would-your question is therefore invalid.
have you bought those shares?
Which shares are you talking about?
have you got the next shareholders' meeting in your diary?
I have several shareholders meetings in my diary
have you joined the trust?
Yes, I have by proxy and am currently doing my best to raise money by pledging up to £100 to Andy's webcast and I challenge you to do the same.
They are quite easy to spot from Trumpingtons post....hint, they have question marks in them wink.gif



There you are young man, and less of your impertinence-don't imagine that just because you're about to get a useless scrap of paper from some jumped up night school you can start the facetious stuff with Mortonjag-what's it to be this time-pink botty skelping- a nail through your wee tadger-or the Monkey pays a visit to centre one?????????????

Those last wee things are interrogation marks-they mean you are duty bound to answer my question. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-14 12:30:32
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 14 2008, 11:22 AM) [snapback]459909[/snapback]
what a total and utter pr ick.

Damned if I do, and damned if I don't eh!

As I said before, the only loser here is going to be the Ton if folk don't take up my offer. If I'm a pr1ck for trying to help the effort-where does that leave you.

I take it you'll not be contributing! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-14 12:40:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 14 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]459903[/snapback]
My my don't wee get angry when someone points out how you purposefully missed out something. I am still certain you have everything required to be a politician.

Oh and just because I went to a "jumped up night school" does not mean I did not have the higher results to get into a good uni, I chose mine simply for good business school and the lack of pretentious "oooh we're in uni let's go to Starbucks and discuss deep throat provoking arguments from our textbooks" around the whole establishment.

And to anser your question....botty skelping please smile.gif

If you got Higher English the standards must have slipped abysmally. wink.gif

Why is it that every time I dangle the carrot about a 'proper university' it's gobbled greedily by folk who FULLY understand the point I'm making and would be better staying quiet?

Ten good hard skelps on the little pink botty, and a pound to Andy's piggy bank then?

Oh, and to your original point 'wee' didn't get angry at all-the so called 'questions' thoroughly deserved the contempt with which they were originally treated, and my subsequent answers demonstrate why.

Trumpet is not particularly bright, and an inveterate trouble maker who'd rather attempt to score cheap points that help the Ton cause.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 12:50:53
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 14 2008, 11:09 AM) [snapback]459905[/snapback]
it's beyond tiresome. unfortunately edinton doesn't have the balls to deal with mentaljag.

anyway, thanks gmfc. pity i had to skim 35-odd posts of that dullard's pish before i got to your post.

Mentajag bribes him!

You're back to using the Jag as a target for your pent up frustrations Einstein. Why don't you just admit you're a f*ckin' loser with a chip on your shoulder.

Frustration's a dreadful thing. Would you like a job with one of my son's companies? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-14 12:59:22 How anybody can suggest that someone in his right mind would want to 'buy out' Rae defeats logic.

There is a man currently sitting on the Board of Directors who is infinitely more wealthy that Mr Rae.

He has not made his money by buying companies for four times their actual value.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 13:08:16
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 14 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]459922[/snapback]
It is not a market we can afford to compete in.

When clubs like the Huns, Newcastle, Manchester United and Arsenal offer to pay all expenses for a trial of 14 days or so, wot is the attraction of Cappielow to Aussies lads who may be the next Scott McDonald ?

And is an Aussie scout going to offer talent to us if he has easier access to bigger clubs ?

Newt-I think things have got to the stage where you'll have to spell it out more clearly.

If you told a few clowns on here you had offered, let's say, twenty grand to help the Ton-had your offer snubbed-and then were billed over two grand for something that had f*ck all to do with you they'd laugh you to scorn, just as my genuine offer today to help Andy M's effort has already been ridiculed by a pair of super clots.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 13:19:08
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 14 2008, 12:44 PM) [snapback]459955[/snapback]
i'll be having nothing to do with you or your immense self-regard.

Well at least in you we have a poster whose modesty knows know ends, and someone who really only has the interests of Greenock Morton at heart! laugh.gif


Or could it be someone who's skint because he f*cked up his career, has a massive chip on his shoulder, chooses to make a complete and utter fool of himself over another poster's 'persona', and would rather spend his money on mind altering substaces to numb the pain of failure?

mortonjag 2008-06-14 13:23:21
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Jun 14 2008, 01:01 PM) [snapback]459965[/snapback]
I totally agree with you mate, i only noticed when i changed banks! I called up to switch all my direct debit details over and the woman said " there is a standing order here for Greenock Morton FC but they have not given a start date "

Total shambles.

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Well done Sir-yet another nail in the coffin of those who have an innocent belief in all that is good behind the scenes!
mortonjag 2008-06-14 13:26:15
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Jun 14 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]459970[/snapback]
There we go again !!!!!!!

All mouth and trousers

Put up or SHUT UP and gie our ears (sorry eyes) a rest wi yer constant Bitching..
Foobs

Was there something inaccurate in my statement?
mortonjag 2008-06-14 13:34:20
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 14 2008, 10:51 AM) [snapback]459900[/snapback]
Suggested solutions for the club

1) Season ticket book issued by post or courier only to address supplied and only posted after the following checks
  • Bank details checked with bank
  • Voters roll check to verify person is at address - cost = annual sub to likes of Dunn and Bradstreet (works out at maybe 50p per ticket)
2) Computer system to highlight missed/bounced DDs - Speak to club's bankers about them monitoring this for us as they have the systems in place

3) All season ticket vouchers to clearly show the number of the season ticket book they came from so that a list of suspended season tickets can be placed at turnstyles and each voucher checked against that list on matchdays. If your ticket is on the list, entry to the ground after explaining yourself at office.

None of the above is very hard or needs much extra effort!

Or employ competent staff!

QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 14 2008, 11:00 AM) [snapback]459904[/snapback]
funniest post of the year! pure fantasyland, mate. this is morton fc we're talking about here, not some proper outfit with a half-decent idea of what they're doing.

Really! Jeezo-revelation of the century-BRAVO that man. laugh.gif

QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 14 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]459945[/snapback]
You're right, it's not the Trust's problem but you'd expect a shareholder in any company to be concerned that that company isn't maximising it's income. Particularly when they are losing out on money as a result of their own incompetence.

Correct.

QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Jun 14 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]459954[/snapback]
Am I the only one that found this quote from mortonjag utterly hilarious? laugh.gif

Would you care to explain why my little fishy?
mortonjag 2008-06-14 13:38:22
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 14 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]459908[/snapback]
Indeed that will be a no.

You can't afford even a pound? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-14 13:42:26
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jun 14 2008, 11:43 AM) [snapback]459919[/snapback]
is that a hint the monkeys portfolio will be increasing?
a lot of property development companies predicted (and you could say that when they did they themselves induced it) and sold some of their properties just before the turn of the year, and are reinvesting at rock bottom levels just now. its bold stuff, but will probably work



I'm not sure-I believe in letting my children learn by their own mistakes, though the Monkey does have a big smile on his face right now!
mortonjag 2008-06-14 13:55:29
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 14 2008, 11:37 AM) [snapback]459915[/snapback]
i don't get upset at this pc stuff, but it seems to me that a lot of the people who do are just pissed off that they can't say n1gger or pak1 anymore. even though they all, to a man, come across like four-year-olds getting a naughty wee thrill off their first swear word.

Nah-faither-you're too busy getting your pampers in a twist because some old fud on a pubic massage board is your new Santa Claus.

QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 14 2008, 11:53 AM) [snapback]459923[/snapback]
available on ebay for 85 quid.

Why were they called greedy boxes ?



http://www.tiffany-antiques.co.uk/original...-1950s-77-p.asp


'Cos they gobbled up the munny!
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jun 14 2008, 12:36 PM) [snapback]459950[/snapback]
n1gger...n1gger...n1gger

pak1....pak1...pak1...

ch1nky...ch1nky...ch1nky
b00bs...b00bs...b00bs..
p00fter...p00fter..p00fter

It's not what you say, it's the way that you say it WDE!

Example-I say to Newt-'Listen to me Sonny boy'-he laughs.

I say to LCM 'I am vastly experienced, infinitely wealthy, have a beautiful young blonde partner half my age, and offer consultancy services to several departments at the Scottish Office'-he doesn't!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Why can't some folk cope with others' superiority?
mortonjag 2008-06-14 14:03:17
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Jun 14 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]459891[/snapback]
Pretty much going solo with the insurance so it should definately bring it down a bit then. I'm pretty sure only certain insurance companies take the pass plus into consideration though.
So bored in work I thought I'd check it out...

http://wantitnow.ebay.co.uk/BUGABOO-FROG-S...idZ150250781361

Hmmmmmmm.

There's not been a single bid though-I wouldn't trust them-maybe you should contemplate not taking Kermit out in the car at all!

BTW I was serious about Scottish Autotrader-plenty of great deals in second hand private sales, but you need help from somebody who knows motors.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 14:07:39
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 14 2008, 01:25 PM) [snapback]459972[/snapback]
A recent sketch confirms his sartorial and pschoanalytical sides.

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDThat looks more like a psychopath!
mortonjag 2008-06-14 14:52:51
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 14 2008, 02:17 PM) [snapback]459991[/snapback]
I feel for you Ernie. I was involved in a four hour meeting with the Board Of Directors of the HSE in Ireland on Thursday - in an advisory/education capacity. Painful. With these guys in charge it's no surprise to me that the health service in Ireland is in the state it's in. What was more laughable was the claims of the Chairman that "we've made progress in the last two years, and we don't get the credit we deserve. We've got a 90% patient satisasfaction rating".

He squirmed just a bit when I pointed out that the survey was from people who had managed to get surgery, and tended to exclude the tens of thousands who are waiting 2-3 years for it ! Talk about selective statistics.

State and semi-state bodies need a good kick up the arse. I spent an hour of the four hours I had with them educating them on Lean Manufacturing, and gave them several examples where it has been applied superbly in the health sector - the Mayo Clinic in particular have made telling improvements with its application. I gave them one example involving the use of MRI's and physiotherapy in the Mayo clinic and how they had revolutionised themselves, freeing up their constraint (the MRI machine) and accurately diagnosing 100% of people faster - first time every time. Their response "yes, but you need to understand John - that could never happen here - too many senior consultants are making a fortune from our inefficiencies and if they withdrew their support we'd be in a worse position".

Jesus wept.

TonInDublin



Jobs for the boys-you'll never beat them I'm afraid-FFS John it's hard enough getting fellow Ton supporters to open their eyes to reality-a man truly hears what he wants to hear and tries to rubbish the rest! wink.gif


I had a blazing row with one of my siblings a few years back. At the time he was deputy Director of Education in a Scottish region, and in their infinite wisdom the Directorate had issued a circular to all Head Teachers saying how they wanted a certain issue addressed. One Maverick 'headie' decided to ignore Diktat, and was duly hauled up before the Directors to be 'spanked'.

OK maybe he was wrong-maybe he was right- but he apparently came out with...'You see, I thought that....' to which my brother proudly announced he'd said 'You had no right to think anything of the kind'........ at which I f*cking EXPLODED.

Bloody arseholes sitting in their cosy wee offices justifying inflated salaries and telling a Headmaster and fellow professional he had 'no right to think'.

Well the battle of words raged for at least two hours, and he eventually 'won' by calling me a 'sad b*****d' and going off to bed in the huff!

The thing is that in real life he's a perfectly OK guy.

I sympathise with your frustrations! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-14 15:03:12
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 14 2008, 02:55 PM) [snapback]460006[/snapback]
see this mental illness you've got, is that the root cause of your total arseholishness or is it something separate you've had to work on?

Is that what's commonly described as a loaded question? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-14 15:08:21
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 14 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]459997[/snapback]
Back to the original article.

Some who came here from old Oireland as economic migrants liked the place, decided that they liked being British and Scottish, integrated.

Others developed plastic paddydom to a fine art.

I know in which camp I would place the mammy. mad.gif

Mibbies it was a sheltered Greenock upbringing, maybe there were plastics aplenty in Greenock though I can't say that I met any.

Glasgow and it's environs, that's a different story. dry.gif

Mr Bam-I kinda get the drift of what you're saying, but can you define Plastic Paddydom in a few sentences.

More and more, on this pubic massageboard, I become concerned at the prevalence of petty preconceptions.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 15:19:42
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 14 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]459998[/snapback]
In order to get this kick started I'll put up the first £50 MJ - with your matched funds that's £100 before we get started.

Looks like the money will be used to bring under priviledged kids to a match or kids from other deserving organisations to Cappielow. Wouldn't it be great if this board could rustle up a grand of that ? £900 to go, £50 of which MJ will still match - and here's the deal - if we get £200 pledged from the board, I'll match MJ's offer - so if we get £200 of donations it'll automatically double to £400.

I'll trust Andy to be the harbinger of the donations. Trust the big man implicitly.

So £50 guaranteed Andy. £100 if we pass £200. Let me know how much I owe you and I'll square you away.

TonInDublin

Superb John-I was really beginning to worry about my motives being misinterpreted, but it's only since I gave the Trust a wee nudge recently that I've become more aware of what goes on, and Andy is a good example of what can be achieved by one man's efforts.

I frankly can't be arsed listening to excuse after excuse for folks' inability to stand up to Rae. The man is a tyrant IMO, and no excuses are needed, but I now realise how important it is to get as much investment as possible from the 'ordinary fans'.

...and just to confirm to you and Andy that's £50 from me to match yours.

mortonjag 2008-06-14 15:36:00
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 14 2008, 02:58 PM) [snapback]460012[/snapback]
'poster'. the guy's ruining the board and you've got your head in the sand. see you in a couple of days, i hope you recover your mental wellbeing to the extent where you can deal with the problem.

From a grown adult, and intelligent poster that 'playground' comment is really sad-and that's NOT a personal attack or 'sniping'.

We had exactly the same stuff from Donga about a month ago, and I think it's outrageous that posters start calling the Mods in question simply because their own selfish requests are not met.

To put some kind of perspective on all this- I offered in good faith today to donate up to £100 to Andy M's efforts. That genuine offer (which has thankfully been re-inforced by TiD) was 'rubbished' by yourself and another poster.

While I'm on-and this is for Edinton too-I never wantonly attack fellow posters, but I'm damned sure I will continue to defend my corner, and as port-ton hints, a large number of my posts are defensive.

mortonjag 2008-06-14 15:42:03 Just a wee update-- TiD has pledged £50 which I've matched so we're sitting at £100 and I'll continue to match up to another £50.

Time for money instead of mouths folks! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-14 15:47:35
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 14 2008, 03:41 PM) [snapback]460046[/snapback]
have you ever used the webcast? i think you are using andy's valuable service for your own ends.

why don't you just donate 500 quid on the quiet to andy's fund and give the rest of us peace about what a great guy you are.

i used to think mentaljag was a persona, but the mask never slips. i really think you are as much of a dick as you come across as.

...and I think that's sniping which is what the Mod just asked us to stop. smile.gif

mortonjag 2008-06-14 15:54:14
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 14 2008, 03:05 PM) [snapback]460018[/snapback]
see this mental illness you've got

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I understood that he has a penile illness ???

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Disability rather than illness-and it's mainly a problem in my head- though it is very wrinkly-not my head-my willie.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 16:01:08
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Jun 14 2008, 03:10 PM) [snapback]460027[/snapback]
Walked from T-Mobile today over 2 both McMillans garages, the Alan Church garage and then the Arnold Clark ones to find out a good mate of mine works there. Can get a really good deal on a few cars so may go back there.
Would have tried autotrader but I don't know anything about cars and don't really know anyone who could have a look at a car and tell me if it's ok to buy or not.

I which case you're safer with a local dealer who gets a good name locally because he has a reputation to maintain.

QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jun 14 2008, 03:19 PM) [snapback]460036[/snapback]
I would go to McMillans, old Arnie is a rogue. Tell them what you are after in McMillans and how much you want to spend. If they don't have anything suitable, tjey can get it for you. Arnold Clarks cars look nice but have usually got a pretty high mileage, depends what you are after.

I can't tell you the number of times I've heard that. I'm not saying that the old man himself is a crook, but the business is FAR too big to even be bothered with personal service-fine when all goes well, but any problem, and you discover you're just a number.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 16:09:29
QUOTE(dazed @ Jun 14 2008, 12:20 PM) [snapback]459943[/snapback]
i dont see why not, they should have the right to vote and although some have argued that they are not mature enough to have the right to vote you could argue that the elderly (they vote labour but cant remember why anymore) are in a similar position , and before anybody hits back Im in favour of both groups voting.

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That's a cracker-I can easily define the under 16's. How do you define those 'elderly'? That's the second time in as many days that I've heard this 'argument'. Old folk who are mentally 'past it' don't tend to find their way to the ballot box!

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 14 2008, 02:47 PM) [snapback]460001[/snapback]
It gives them the choice as responsible adults. What's wrong with that ? They are at an age were they can be sent to war and they can marry. Surely we can trust them with a vote too ?

Sixteen year old children are not responsible adults Spurtle.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 03:55:13
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 14 2008, 05:55 PM) [snapback]460077[/snapback]
Not even DDF has issued an outright threat against other Morton fans. Congratulations: a new low.

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Andy seems pleased with the offer.

TiD seems happy to join in the spirit and we're already at £100-that's a 1/6ths of last year's profits before we're half way through June.


I think it's fair to ask you and LCM and Big Doc why you three have (to use the 'in' phrase) attempted to hi-jack this thread which is supposed to be about fund raising.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 04:13:31
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 14 2008, 05:21 PM) [snapback]460070[/snapback]
There is a local goalkeeper here in Clane from Poland. Played in the second division in Poland. Most dedicated person I know and he's become a close friend. His team just got promoted to the top league in Poland and they want him back full time. He plays for the local team here, and they just won two leagues and two cups in two years. Trains 7 days a week - coaches all other goalkeepers from u10 up to senior level. Has refused terms with Kildare County - but I tell you this - he would be an outstanding signing for any Scottish club. Right now, he has told his Polish club he will go home at Xmas and sign then - at a higher standard than Morton by a mile. I really wish someone would have a look at him. Only reason he goes home is cos his wife and kids haven't moved over. If he got full time football I'm sure they would. First club to see him would snap him up.

Has been offered terms with every senior club in Kildare - but unless it's full time he wants to stay loyal to Clane. What a player - I kid you not.

TonInDublin

Have you written to 'the Club'? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-15 04:28:11
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 14 2008, 11:02 PM) [snapback]460167[/snapback]
se65an started a thread about the failure of the club to check on season tickets someone also raised the question about possible irregularities at the turnstiles at the q+a.

Not to mention the stance with the ARTC .

As Toby also mentioned DDFR's ability to say the wrong thing . The bring a friend after complaining about attendances in the matchday programme who else would have read the article unless you went to the match and bought a programme .If you can't see why supporters wouldn't feel a direct jib at them you really need to reposition your blinkers my friend .
The Celtic Fans best supporters in Scotland which we still didn't get an apology but I always noticed he made an apology to the press after he criticised them for their fixation with the old firm and the lack of coverage given to the lower leagues( obviously sports hacks have no loyalty to our club and the chairman could be criticised at will ) .

Correct Chris, and faithful fans of this club who have no loyalty to a tyrannical Chairman and who are growing tired of constant thick skinned stubborn and arrogant defence of the archaic loss making mess that is currently Greenock Morton-fans whose comments and opinions are regularly shouted down and threatened with censorship- are entirely at liberty to access the columns of the local and National press.

I expect-'you wouldn't dare'.

You know something Chris, I'm getting to the stage where I may have no choice.

mortonjag 2008-06-15 04:54:20 Ah-you're not such a bad chap really-you could have gone girning to thae overworked Mods Trumpet.

Anyway-do you think Alistair Donald is a real person or just a kind of life size 'cut out' a la Chairman Mao?

I had a wee dream that he's just a total 'plant' to lull us all into a false sense of security-something along the lines of........


'Crawford-where do I go from here, now that I can't dip the Golden Casket any more?

I'm damned if the football Club will ever see a penny of my personal fortune-that money's there for you son-you know that-but you keep telling me the 'natives are getting restless'-can they not see that Rome was not built in a day, and that Greenock has more hills?'

'Da-we'll huv tae peacify them-could we no kid them oan that ther some rich c*nt wantin' tae buy us oot?'

Crawford, my lad, a superb solution-sometimes-just sometimes I see that you are truly my son'. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-15 05:04:00
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jun 14 2008, 09:49 PM) [snapback]460157[/snapback]
This is nonsense. As anyone who has/had a standing order for their season ticket knows, it is the customer who selects the start/end dates. If the SO mandate doesn't have a start date, the Bank should be contacting the customer and/or the Club. rolleyes.gif

Smiffy you are correct and wrong at the same time.

A supplier agrees to supply goods or services in return for a completed standing order mandate.

GMFC should not provide its services until that has been properly implemented. If GMFC continues to provide its services free it suffers financially on account of its own inefficiency.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 05:13:05
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 15 2008, 01:12 AM) [snapback]460212[/snapback]
Doubt it very much.
At the end of the day, no matter how hard-up Morton claim to be and how often DDFR asks you to bring a friend, buy a ticket for a sportsmans dinner which the players cant be arsed attending to raise more bawbees for the clubs coffers, Morton FC are and will always be considerably richer than most of its supporters.

When youre overdrawn at the bank and your struggling to pay your mortgage or car loan, an extra tenner or two comes in handy. Why give it to someone who doesnt appreciate your custom?
Same old, same old.
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Any respectable manager of any business with the same kind of issues that Morton are facing would consider implimenting these ideas or something similar, but Morton arent just any business, they are a community football club.

If the above were implimented, there would be instances of turnstile guys knowing a culprit from the scheme, the pub etc. and not blowing the whistle on them like theyre supposed to do, outstanding debtors may not get pursued by admin. staff the way they should because said staff know them on a personal level etc. Its the old stewards mates' kicking the big gate scenario all over again.

Its a mickey mouse club, run by mickey mouse people from top to bottom. They want £2million to bring Cappielow up to SPL standards, Morton will never get there because the attitudes have still not reached the 1990s, never mind the new millenium. SPL would cost Morton around £10million to do it properly, but alas, they want to do it on the cheap.
It will never change. Sadly.




I'd think the Chief Exec's more in the BFG league TBH.

mortonjag 2008-06-15 05:20:29
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jun 14 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]460105[/snapback]
if you are looking to become a property magnate ill happily become a consultant
for a small fee

No-I'm really quite content financially as I am-this project is just to give me a bit of fun and exercise my massive brain which is currently on 'tick over' and upsetting many who cannot match my intellect! tongue.gif

Seriously, I'm led to believe that 'Trois (or perhaps it's now quatre) maisons' de Brussels is our resident prorperteer.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 05:35:45
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 14 2008, 02:05 PM) [snapback]459988[/snapback]
so what unis are good enough for you rolleyes.gif

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You're still in the huff because I took the rip out of 'Pishley University'.



Bryan, I sometimes realise that well over half the piss taking I do goes over folks heads! What happens-they get all huffy or aggressive, and when the Jag matches them in the jousting stakes they want him banned, and DELIBERATELY try to discredit him when he's trying to help a Ton effort.

I think the behaviour on the forum yesterday was a disgrace-grown adults trying to bully Edinton just because they can't cope with Mortonjag is nothing short of spoilt brats clyping to the teacher having already punched back! rolleyes.gif

Anyway-Universities-I couldn't give a f*ck, but I DO get annoyed at jumped up little nobodies who can't spell or write a decent sentence thinking they've arrived because they got a bit of paper from Noddyland University.

A degree from anywhere is only a bloody passport to life.

The Bard said 'The rank is but the guinea stamp
the man's the gowd for a' that', and that's my take on life.

....and Paisley's a fine town with a fine university, Abbey, and SPL football stadium! wink.gif

mortonjag 2008-06-15 05:55:09
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Jun 14 2008, 08:32 PM) [snapback]460126[/snapback]
I'm probably ok with with as I'll get an MOT free of charge whenever required. Apparently my old man knows a guy who runs a garage, so may even take up your earlier advice on autotrader.

Although the Arnold Clark deal for £3500 on a 21000 mileage car sounds a bit too good to turn down especially with a very reliable mate offering the deal. Ok, I know salesman are all about the commission but I knoww the guy too well to know he'd act the c***.

£3500 is still serious money for your first motor. Compare what you're getting from Sir Arnold with what the same money will get you on the SAME MODEL in Autotrader. Probably a year younger for starters. I've bought more cars than I can remember, and you are at a huge advantage because you have no trade in.

The first rule is never to hurry-if you lose your dream car there's another just round the corner-cars are like women in that respect. Secondly learn as much as you can about what's available in your price range, and go for a compromise of what you really want, and what makes sense with the cost of petrol and insurance-you might want to think about diesel but currently it's not the saving it was.

Finally when you've made your mind up, view the car in good daylight with your 'mechanic' friend. Test drive it for at least five or six miles. You can usually get a good or bad feel about the seller. Elderly ladies parting with 10,000 miles very clean looking Nissan Micras with full service history tend not to be con artists, and they DO exist! If you have even the slightest doubt-walk away. It can be a bit daunting if you view two or three 'lemons' but it's good experience and worth waiting for the right motor.

It can also be fun-don't be impetuous, and don't hand old Arnie a whacking mark up on something he got for a knocked down trade in. You need your money-he doesn't. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-15 05:58:15 29 today-eh-I really hope you don't feel old! laugh.gif


Many happy returns young man.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 06:03:55
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 14 2008, 05:00 PM) [snapback]460065[/snapback]
You're back! laugh.gif
Nope, basturts wie three houses should be strung up by the gulags.

I'd prefer that they just removed them. Microsurgery is relatively inexpensive.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 06:21:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 15 2008, 04:27 AM) [snapback]460232[/snapback]
Is kangarooistan a nutter ?

are any of the following claims correct ?
http://phorums.com.au/archive/index.php/t-268102.html
INTRODUCTION

Islam broke world records of genocide, slavery, religiously sanctioned
rape, abuse of human rights, and prohibition of scientific inquiry. It
forbids Muslim emigration to the lands of the infidels because a
Muslim minority cannot enslave the infidel majority. Despite this
prohibition Muslims emigrate to the West, not as migrants, but as
conquerors. They live in sharia mini-states and expand these mini-
states by terrorizing infidel neighbors and driving them out.

The average European couple now has fewer than 1.4 babies, compared to
3.6 babies born to the average Muslim immigrant couple in Europe.

Across Western Europe 16 to 20 percent of babies are being born into
Muslim families

... By 2025, one-third of all European children will be
born to Muslims

... In Italy, 95% of all rapists are Muslims. Eighty-five
percent of all murderers are Muslims

... France will have a Muslim majority in less than 25 years!

Another telling statistic is that although the Muslims are 12% of France's population, 70 percent of a
total of 60,775 prisoners in France are Muslims!

All of France's urban suburbs are being roamed by Muslim black African or Arabic gangs... A
very high proportion of French Muslims are in the underclass, that
segment of the population that relies not so much on education and
work as on welfare and predatory activities. In fact, over one
thousand Muslim neighborhoods are under monitoring throughout France.
Seven hundred of those Muslim neighborhoods are listed as "violent"
and nearly 400 hundred are listed as "very violent." Violence ranges
from rape (95% of rapists are Muslim), murder (85% of murderers are
Muslim), theft and looting of cars (58% committed by Muslims) and
street fighting to assault on teachers and civil servants

... source: http://www.masada2000.org/islam.html


It's a fact that where I live (a once multi-cultural suburb) there has been a huge influx of foreign people in the last five years. It's also a fact that the multi-cultural population which pre-existed is to a greater or lesser degree perturbed by what they generally perceive to have been something 'thrust upon them'.

It is an indisputable fact that the vast majority of those incomers are Muslim by religion and fecund by nature.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 06:51:51
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 15 2008, 04:38 AM) [snapback]460234[/snapback]
Ernie doesn't post anything that is regarded as racist, or anything like that. sure he may post too much but the same way there is nothing stopping any single one of you posting as much as you want , there is nothing stopping him posting as much as he wants either. If there was a way to limit someone posting maybe 50 times a day then i'd be all for it, as i've went over that ammount before and can tell how annoying ive been. but the only thing MJ is to some people is annoying, which isn't a crime, and isnt a bannable offence.

Personally i feel, even though i disagree with him on a lot, that he brings up more valid points than just about every single person on here, and long may he continue to do so.


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Unfortunately my many critics, unlike yourself, have not experienced the 'real Ernie'! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-15 07:15:44 See thae effin mods-they are an effin disgrace. I have told them literally hunners o' times how they should be doing the job properly-they just don't listen. Effin, effin ridiculous, if you effin ask me.

I have time after time after time reported offensive and inaccurate posts-they just don't listen.

I never post on 'What are you listening to now 'cos it's childish-they refuse to delete the whole thread!

I wanted to start a new forum-'Uncle Mortonjag's bedtime stories for little kiddiewinkles'-they refused saying the over fifties might feel jealous'

Only yesterday I again asked that Donga, and LCM, and CHC, and Puggs, and Real Hoops, and Donkey Dave, and Nach0, and Cawston, and half a dozen others who KNOW who they are, should be BANNED-those guys ruin every thread for me with their petty jealousy and vituperous sniping, and they deliberately hi-jack every single thread I start, not that I start many, and specifically they call me a liar because I won't divulge confidentialities, and they constantly post in an offensively ageist manner, and I don't think I've ever, ever, ever, ever, known a pubic massage board whose Mods were such an utter effin disgrace as this lot-oh.........aye..and IF I WAS MOD things would be VERY different.

I'd start by banning for life every single poster whose opinion varied slightly from my own correct one-they'd soon get the message-in no time at all the forum would be perfect, and I could spend all day blissfully replying to my own posts. I think that would make me feel quite important. Revenge is great fun for vengeful folk eh! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-15 07:56:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 15 2008, 07:32 AM) [snapback]460247[/snapback]
I wanted to start a new forum-'Uncle Mortonjag's bedtime stories for little kiddiewinkles'-they refused saying the over fifties might feel jealous'

Did they survey the over 50s first - or just make an arbitrary decision ?

For all the good that these so called mods do, they may as well be rockers.

Perhaps you could try a new thread this evening - 'Uncle Mortonjag's bedtime stories for little kiddiewinkles' as a pilot.

some possible stories ???

The 3 Bares ?

Ebony - The Black Beauty ?

Cappielow - Home of Dreams ?

... worth a try ?

Are you sitting comfortably?

Then I'll begin.

No-wait newt I'd be hi-jacking my own post-ACTUALLY..... YOU just hi-jacked my post

I shall duly report you-it won't do a bit of good in the short term, but once Mortonjag's complaints reach the level of his posts I'm sure they'll do anything he asks just to keep him quiet.

Seems that's how the game's supposed to be played! dry.gif mad.gif

mortonjag 2008-06-15 08:28:13
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 15 2008, 07:54 AM) [snapback]460251[/snapback]
Fair point there.
biggrin.gif You are misunderstood from what I can see wink.gif

I think the term 'misperceived' is more accurate in relation to this warning thread Weegie.

It's uncanny how vulnerable we all are to mis-perception-I've often formed a rough opinion of a poster from his/her avatar and signature, only to discover I was MILES away from reality.


Having said that I believe that folk who actually dislike Mortonjag fall into three broad groups:

1/ Those who are totally taken in by the arrogant old fud persona-they are the most honest, and often the younger group.

2/ Those who hate Mortonjag because of what he says-the signature has remained unchanged now for about three years. Those folk feel the need to defend virtually anything the Jag attacks-they are irritating and sometimes extremely offensive, but they DO feel they have a point of view and are certainly entitled to their opinions.

3/ The resentfully jealous few with the full fish supper on their shoulders. I won't name them-they have been lobbying so hard for so long that the Mods occasionally waver in their commendable attempt to see fair play. They are a truly sad and despicable ragbag of pretenders to some imaginary forum throne which they see wrested from their clutches by the evil Doctor Mortonjag.

Invariably they are multiple posters themselves, and invariably they accuse the Jag of 'being up his own arse' with an almost pathetically whining irony. They differ from all other posters-they REALLY HATE the person behind the screen name.

It's not often, Weegie, that I make an 'on line' diagnosis, but it is my considered opinion that certain posters in this latter group have serious psychological problems.

Indeed I believe they require treatment, if they are to become more fulfilled on life's little journey.

Just the opinion of a sad old fud mind-no offence intended to anybody and I'm sure none will be taken! smile.gif

mortonjag 2008-06-15 08:42:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 15 2008, 08:10 AM) [snapback]460254[/snapback]
YOU just hi-jacked my post

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I was just trying to help.

I think your bed time stories will be wee rippers.

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QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jun 15 2008, 08:22 AM) [snapback]460256[/snapback]
I have settled on kippers and hot buttered toast this morning, with a cup of extra strong tea.

Have an urn of the stuff and stop hi-jacking my thread-this hi-Jacking of every thread is becoming far to common. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-15 08:45:31
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Jun 15 2008, 08:19 AM) [snapback]460255[/snapback]
Hmmmmmm laugh.gif

That makes finding a car scarier than I first imagined.

My Mum used to say to us 'What's done in haste is often rued at leisure'. There were six of us.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 08:51:17
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 15 2008, 07:45 AM) [snapback]460250[/snapback]
Right that's settled then. Davie McArthur in goal for the Car Travelling MSC. Don't worry about Scott he will play as well, just not as keeper.
Looking forward to that tournament.

Weegie, firstly let me apologise for not hi-jacking this thread-sometimes there are too many running simultaneously and this one seems to have slipped through the net. I must do better.

What I was wanting to know was if yesterday's match was a charity event, and if so, how much was raised and for what cause? I really hope it's OK to ask this question and apologise in advance if it's not.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 08:55:36
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jun 15 2008, 08:49 AM) [snapback]460262[/snapback]
Of course they do NewTon - what do you think toast racks are for.

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STOP IT NOW
You're taking this too far
I am very, very, very ,very angry.

Who do you think you are anyway-any more and I will weep and bleat to the big knobs.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 08:58:23
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Jun 15 2008, 08:55 AM) [snapback]460265[/snapback]
JUMP, PLEASE JUMP
AND GIES A REST

Is there a toad on your tadger?
mortonjag 2008-06-15 09:04:58
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jun 15 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]460268[/snapback]
The kippers were a very good choice. I am now feeling content and replete.


laugh.gif You mean you're a fat c*nt?
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jun 15 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]460269[/snapback]
The big Effin polisman will be along to lift you. Watch out for that Big Effin Bee mind.

Where is Effin BTW?
mortonjag 2008-06-15 13:15:17
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Jun 15 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]460348[/snapback]
Andy, If the maths works out then

£20 - away season ticket
£20 - Sponsor the Renny Cup final (or is that a home game and part of the home season ticket?)
£10 - MortonJag is a good egg

That's £50 from me - will be in the paypal post as soon as MJ accepts the donation.

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And you are a very good egg Robert-if that's another £50 to the webcast I'll match it as promised which means we've achieved with John's input... £200 now. I THINK John plans to double that to £400 but maybe I've misunderstood him.

Can I say in this post to you that I've already told Andy that I want to Sponsor the first away Webcast at Dingwall. My brother and I think it's a wee bit far-we decided that as soon as RC were promoted. I also came to notice only recently that any surplus from Andy's profits goes to the Trust.

I'd given the Trust a slightly rough ride recently-that doesn't mean I don't want them to be more successful.

I don't expect an apology from Big Doc, LCM, and Nach0. I'm not sure that I'd really welcome cheap face saving from folk with such an apparently twisted view of life.

The nicest way they could gain some credibility would be by donating to this cause-in fact I now offer to match anything they donate up to a total of another £100. Guess my money's safe! dry.gif

mortonjag 2008-06-15 13:35:42
QUOTE(Toby @ Jun 15 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]460350[/snapback]
Is it just me that really enjoys it when someone starts giving me abuse and calling me names on here?

Always a sure sign that you're winning an argument. can always imagine the other guy sitting typing furiously with steam coming out his ears whenever they start lowering themselves to catty insults biggrin.gif .

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QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 15 2008, 01:07 PM) [snapback]460362[/snapback]
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Lets face it, you live your life for arguments sake.

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mortonjag 2008-06-15 13:42:30
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 15 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]460375[/snapback]
You've already successfully made the fundraising endeavour all about you. rolleyes.gif

Anything I choose or choose not to give to Morton/the Trust/the webcast has nothing to do with you. I don't need your permission or approval, no matter how much you think that this is the case.

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If I'm not mistaken we're sitting at £400 and I doubt if Andy or any other genuine Morton fan really gives a f*ck.

I'll still match anything you care to pledge, up to £100-AND re-instate you in my mind to the level of 'good guy'!

I strongly suspect you'll still prefer to call me 'bawbag', as you have done repeatedly in the past. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-15 13:47:07
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 15 2008, 12:30 PM) [snapback]460355[/snapback]
Long since given up on the notion that writing to the club achieves anything MJ. I was talking to him on Friday night and his club in Poland are putting him under increasing pressure to return home immediately and re-sign for them. I often help him warm up before games if I'm not refereeing, and I can tell you that I am exhausted by the end of it. His warm up routine before the match takes 45 minutes - non stop action 45 minutes with all aspects of his game tested - shots long range, shots short range, crosses, handling, rolls, flips, challenges - seriously impressive.

His work ethic and professionalism is outstanding. New gloves (at €100 a pair which he pays for) every four weeks. Never seen anyone set such high standards for themself.

And a decent lad to boot. Pigeon English but a great sense of fun. And like most Poles in Ireland he's picked up the important stuff well ..... "féck you, I bought last pints, you go bar". I preferred him when he had no English !

TonInDublin

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Say no more.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 13:51:25
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 15 2008, 09:13 AM) [snapback]460274[/snapback]
Hi MJ. It wasn't a charity event. It's an annual friendly game between the Gourock boys and the Dunoon boys. Was a great game and I was delighted to be asked to play this year.

Excellent-it's good to hear that the fans are getting on well together. Kind of reminds you we're all Ton supporters with only one aim-a successful senior football club in Greenock.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 14:14:48
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 15 2008, 01:37 PM) [snapback]460377[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif Doctor, i take it that your 'truth' has no backbone. I will take no part in any webcast that you sponsor, i will however still pay the fee for any game that i would have taken part in as i have backed the webcast service since it came into being as i do appreciate the work that Andy does for the fans that cannot make the 'live show'. What now are you going to ruin for the rest of us now doctor? and for what ? just so you get a wee bit of joy from winding people up, very sad indeed. You have had plenty of chances to back up your ramblings by now and yet you do nothing positive. This thing with the webcast is just a stunt, if you were so concerned about the webcast then maybe you should have done it when it was struggling to get people to participate and not now just to use it as a tool to spread your 'truth'.

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You're quick on the uptake-of course it's a bloody stunt- it's a stunt to raise money for the advancement of the Ton. If you choose not to donate it's up to you, but I'll match you, Nach0, and LCM up to an inclusive total of £100.

In other words, if you really support Morton and Andy's cause, and the Trust, you can take off the blinkers, accept the Jag for the 'Good Egg' he really is, and make your donation go twice as far.

Is there something wrong there?
mortonjag 2008-06-15 14:18:01
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 15 2008, 01:44 PM) [snapback]460380[/snapback]
You are attempting to use this fundraiser to lord it up over other Morton fans, and have unequivocally stated that those who don't dance to your tune will cause the club to lose out. That is a jaw-droppingly crass thing to do to fellow Morton supporters.

That doesn't seem to be the view of TiD, or Robert, or Andy himself. My offer is still open.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 14:20:30 You appear to be accusing me of lying.

Mortonjag does not lie.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 14:50:35 “Annabel Goldie may be a game old bird — she is competent within her policy-light limitations and has a St Trinian’s sense of humour — but beyond the market of her blue-rinse brigades she has little crossover appeal,â€


'Game old bird indeed'-what a bloody cheek-I was at school with her big brother.

Annabel's just a wee lassie, and a nice wee lassie too. The SNP could do with more wee lassies like Annabel and less of its current shower of 'no hopers'.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 14:55:16 If they want to give the vote to sixteen year olds they should bring back National Service at fourteen to knock some sense into them first.

Forget about the lost education. Education in this country's f*cked anyway.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 15:01:52
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jun 15 2008, 11:26 AM) [snapback]460332[/snapback]
I regret not Tom. My butter of choice is Brittany with rather chunky crystals of sea salt.



She sells sea salted Brittanny butter on the sea shore
The butter she sells on the sea shore is sea salted Brittany butter


......and the Mods spread it on their hot toast and eat it with kippers and very strong tea.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 15:08:40
QUOTE(stu_1874 @ Jun 15 2008, 02:44 PM) [snapback]460403[/snapback]
dont like it. dont read it
Colkitto can express his views if he wishes, just like everyone else can.

Colkitto, Claymore C*ck, Bannock Baws, Haggis Heid, Spurtle is indeed free to express himself to his heart's content.

He pursues his deluded dreams with a gritty determination, and no small sense of humour.

He is wrong about Sir Cliff Richard being a pouffe.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 15:23:41 I don't believe the new measures will make very much difference.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 15:44:03
QUOTE(fishy_ton @ Jun 15 2008, 12:11 PM) [snapback]460352[/snapback]
I am one of Boozies apparently 'overpaid', offshore mates...and no Boozie boy I do not agrree that I get 4-5 times more than someone onshore, I definitely don't.

A few points on this.....

Scotland cannot be(nor should they really want to) be like Norway with regards oil revenues. Norway did get it right from the start with regards their oil resources. Unfortuneately for us, we had the Thatchers at tyhe Beginning of North Sea Oil and they have basically given the rights to the oil companies. They also conjured up a crazy North sea tax scheme which at the time saw Dennis and his cronies become very rich and oil companies got away with paying very little tax to the economy.

However, North Sea taxes were substantially increased a few years back....almost putting a lot of Oil companies and subsidiary's out of business, many of my friends were on the dole for a few years due to this. Not that the tax is wrong, but wasn't expected and threw a lot of the big companies plans out of whack. I don't see any oil companies leaving themselves this open to disaster again. So oil prices increased. Although in fairness anything that happens in the North Sea doesn't have a great effect on the oil price globally. North Sea Oil is a tiny spec of the world's oil resources. There may be a 100 years of oil left in the north sea.....but that oil is more difficult and expensive to produce. As well as this, an unbelievable safety culture has developed in the offshore industry world wide(this is led by the North sea) but this costs a hell of a lot of many. Increasing production costs again.

So north sea = small amount of oil. To get the big oil fields you have to look at west africa, brazil(where I currently work) and asia. All areas have their own problems when it comes to extracting the black stuff. third world countries = corruption for one, which is beyond belief sometimes, especially in West Africa....a small scale example is I have to bribe my way through most airports there. Oil companies are being shafted left right and centre by local 'governments'!
Worldwide, Oil is now found in deeper and deeper wells, we are currently working on a feild 1 mile subsea....that is costly!

Other examples of costly oil can be found all around the globe, the world's biggest oil resource just now is the sand oil found in Central Canada, but mega expensive to extract.

Then there is the oil controller's in the Middle East. These guys know that their oil is running out...they are not going to give it away! Cities and states such as Dubai, Abu Dhabi and Saudi are building and trying to diversify for a sustainable future, however in the mean time they will not be lowering the price of oil!

I could go on with this....but basically oil shouldn't be seen as the future, prices are not going to drop dramatically and we need to deal with that. Oil companies know that a dip is ahead, and are putting money aside for this now. Which hopefully will safeguard a lot of jobs in the future.

Certainly not what the SNP would have us believe.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 15:46:25
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 15 2008, 03:41 PM) [snapback]460418[/snapback]
They will make a large difference to Mr Tesco's profits. blink.gif

I suspect you may also believe in Santa Claus.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 15:48:58
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 15 2008, 02:56 PM) [snapback]460408[/snapback]
Soapy Soutar? Ohhhhhhmigawd no, you have defiled the well of my imagination.
Expect to hear from:
my lawyers.
Why thank you, I fear that whilst my economic policies would be welcome my social ones would not.

Carrot and stick's fine Mr Bam if you get the correct balance.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 15:58:26
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 15 2008, 02:55 PM) [snapback]460407[/snapback]
He's gone. laugh.gif

Good move Andy... always a bad idea to post in the heat of the moment. tongue.gif

Not necessarily, but that's generally true in my experience.

Nach0 has made it quite clear that he doesn't want to help this particular cause-would you be willing to make a donation. Belgium's already been good to us today. I'll match you up to £100, but hurry in case LCM or Big Doc has a change of heart! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-15 16:02:54
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 15 2008, 03:50 PM) [snapback]460424[/snapback]
Maybe hes an arsonist.

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Like Sir Cliff?
mortonjag 2008-06-15 16:14:45
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 15 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]460430[/snapback]
What exactly would i be having a change of heart about ? i have been donating to the webcast for some time now and i have stated that i will continue to donate but will not participate as long as you use it for furthering your own ego trip.

That's fine by me. Many people are suspicious of those 'buy one get one free offers'. Are you definitely out then-it just helps me to plan my next stage of the ego trip if I know as soon as possible?
mortonjag 2008-06-15 16:18:11
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 15 2008, 04:15 PM) [snapback]460436[/snapback]
I bet you were in the scouts rolleyes.gif

With the well known motto

Never leave the boys behind
mortonjag 2008-06-15 17:53:57
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 15 2008, 04:22 PM) [snapback]460439[/snapback]
You were never in the Scouts, you were too busy playing Doctors and Nurses, ya randy bugger rolleyes.gif

True on both counts Sean!
mortonjag 2008-06-15 17:58:08
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jun 15 2008, 04:30 PM) [snapback]460443[/snapback]
what is the project anyway?

It isn't yet- I just asked folk for ideas on how to use £100,000-I've had a lot of interesting stuff, but nothing that quite fits the bill yet!

I thought I might set up a chain of family butchers. There are several families I don't really like.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 18:01:32
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 15 2008, 04:50 PM) [snapback]460452[/snapback]
Don't forget Prince Charlie. wink.gif

An arsonist or just a red hot pouffe?
mortonjag 2008-06-15 18:10:32
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jun 15 2008, 05:45 PM) [snapback]460468[/snapback]
Who are the mods anyway ? I know that Edinton fella go the top job when Nacho went insane and handed over the power without a democratic vote but are there any others ?

It's a wee bit like Newton's three bares story

Daddy bare Mod is Tontastic the fotie flasher

Mummy bare Mod is Edinton the Festival flyer flasher

Baby bare Mod is Bryan who's just a flasher though he will strenuously deny it.

After those three we have the aspirant Mods-we won't go into their identities, but I just wish they were Mods-that would soon shut them up when they realise what the job really entails.

I hope that last bit was suitably grovelling.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 18:30:34
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 15 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]460429[/snapback]
Lets just be clear here. The people who take season tickets out with no intention of paying for them are committing petty fraud. Fraud is just a type of theft and therefore if you do this you are nothing but a contemptible petty thief.

The club is guilty of having insufficient measures to counter this, if what is being said is true (and I am not doubting anyone here) but not protecting yourself is not a crime. The crime is being commtted against the club, not the other way around!

Finally as for Capitanus who seems to think its OK to steal from Greenock Morton because times are hard, theft is never excusable. There might in some circumstances be some mitigation e.g. if you have no money and steal food to feed your family but stealing to watch a football match offers no such excuse and I say again if you are doing it you are nothing but a lowlife petty criminal who deserves to be locked up!!



One law for the Jews and another for the Gentiles eh!

Of course deliberately not paying for services rendered is fraud-or wait-is it payment avoidance or payment evasion?

Accountants have been trying every last dirty trick in the book from time immemorial to get their well heeled clients out of paying dues, but they would never condone tax evasion.

They play it (I'm led to believe) strictly by the rules-JUST AS 'I HATE MANPOWER' DID.

Those who have stewardship of our club, and who through a stubborn, arrogant ,and ingrained cheapskate approach fail to collect dues, are the ones depriving our club of income. Applying your logic, they are the ones who REALLY deserve to be locked up.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 18:48:33
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 15 2008, 06:07 PM) [snapback]460476[/snapback]
If you have something that would blow the lid off the club and cause it to sort out the messy aspects of it then I implore you to share it with whoever you think could help.

Therein lies the problem-and I'm getting pretty hacked off with folk questioning my judgement on what should be said to whom and when.

Why would a poster who is solely out for self aggrandisement hold back information which could reinforce his position as centre of attention?

Somebody who's willing to chuck £100 away on an ego trip (£200 if you'd cared to be involved), but who really doesn't give a f*ck about the club, would SURELY spill the beans on the old Shooglemeister!

Something doesn't fit-does it Nach0?

Shall I come clean and confess I have absolutely no information whatsoever? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Just leave this in my capable hands-old heads cannot be put on young shoulders.

mortonjag 2008-06-15 18:53:43
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 15 2008, 06:37 PM) [snapback]460485[/snapback]
Thought Bryan gave up his role as a Mod a while back.

You also thought Jim Thomson didn't score a cracking goal in the Scottish Cup Final!

Mind you Bryan may be a flasher and a liar! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-15 18:58:20
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jun 15 2008, 06:54 PM) [snapback]460489[/snapback]
I have still to receive my renewal forms for next season. It is the middle of June for gods sake!!

Do not despair-ours arrived yesterday, and are gracing the wheelie bin!
mortonjag 2008-06-15 19:11:14
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 15 2008, 06:59 PM) [snapback]460491[/snapback]
Who knows, perhaps my time on the Morton General Nonsense forum is up. rolleyes.gif

I have been posting since the "Rumpus Room" on the Andy M board. It's been a great way of getting the message out to people who normally don't take an interest or know anything about their country either politically, culturally or even historically. You certainly won't read about it in the newspapers or see it on TV.
The insults or negative postings do not bother me one bit, never have never will. And on the other hand some of the banter has been good and enjoyable.

I started posting in the days when Scotland leaving the union was just a dream. Now it's becoming very much a reality (I know certain unionist posters will disagree with me on that one !) So perhaps my work here is done laugh.gif
I'll have a wee think about it..... rolleyes.gif

But don't worry, if I decide to "retire" from this forum, you can still argue with me about Morton on the other Morton Chatter forum. biggrin.gif

Spurtle, please don't go. We can't discuss the ongoing mystery of your sexuality on the other forum, and I still have lots of unanswered questions for you about the SNP- you still refuse, for example, to tell me whether or not wee Nickerless shaves face and fudd or just the former, and I'm desperate to get more inside knowledge on that threesome bash with Soapy, Bawheid, and Sir Cliff.

Anyway, if you do decide to leave, please don't blame Mortonjag-let's face it I'm responsible for all the other problems.

Mr Bam can carry the can for this one-him and that David Edwards.

mortonjag 2008-06-15 19:55:28
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 15 2008, 07:36 PM) [snapback]460500[/snapback]
all i am doing is discussing something 'morton' and i do not remember 'attacking' him or asking for him to be be banned. I cant even say that he annoys me, frustrates is a more fitting term. As for the need to get out more, i couldn't agree more.



QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Apr 26 2008, 06:43 PM) *
dear mortonjag, you are nothing but a worthless joke, after one of our best results for ages all you can do is criticise dougie. You make my blood boil with all this anti dougie pish that you spout and what do you do about it, f*** all apart from wasting bandwidth on this site. Hope you die soon, slowly and painfully.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 20:27:54
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 15 2008, 07:41 PM) [snapback]460504[/snapback]
ohmy.gif

Oh, and Mr Thomson didn't score a cracking goal in the Cup Final.



–adverb
2. extremely; unusually good: We saw a cracking good match at the stadium.



maybe not in your opinion!
mortonjag 2008-06-15 20:43:40
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jun 15 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]460514[/snapback]
i want to know where you got the money!ohmy.gif
catering is a good one to get into, probably a lot of effort though

I've not been given the money-a family member has offered to back me to the tune of a maximum of £100,000.

Funnily enough we were talking about catering, and specifically about a wee chain of restaurants in St. Andrews/Perth etc. The owner has either four or five-they ARE thriving, but last year his turnover was only £1.5 million.

I realise that's still a lot of money, but it's very demanding keeping on top of that sort of enterprise.

The same family member invested £200,000 in a company called Vidicom just over a year ago. I can't confirm but apparently the investment is now worth some ten times that-but all investments are risky!

I'm just looking for something to keep me a wee bit more active, and give my fellow posters some peace!
mortonjag 2008-06-15 20:52:53
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 15 2008, 08:41 PM) [snapback]460518[/snapback]
Aye, and you should respect that. Goodness knows we've got to respect your opinion around here. rolleyes.gif



You don't have to respect my opinion Naitch, and many don't anyway.

I respect everybody's right to voice opinions, and reserve mine to judge them on the basis of what they state.

When a poster starts a thread, for example, which may run to two or three paragraphs, it's generally assumed that he's stating opinion.

It's different when a poster contradicts another with a one liner, where, to avoid confusion, it's always best to add 'in my opinion'-or words to that effect.

mortonjag 2008-06-15 21:03:36
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jun 15 2008, 08:51 PM) [snapback]460522[/snapback]
But that only works when you're logged in. I used to enjoy browsing the Board without logging in and got bored/angry reading all MJ's anti-DDF rantings and other sh*te. Now I don't visit the Board that often. Shame really as I used to enjoy the banter. No point in banning him either as he'll just resurface in another guise - although I wouldn't be surprised if he already has two or more and uses these to agree/argue with himself as the occasion fits. laugh.gif laugh.gif

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I honestly don't think Mortonjag could ever exist in another form!

Oh bugger it-I might as well come clean

My other three screen names are Real Hoops, Big Doc 1874, and Le chien manquee

The four of us do create a little mischief it has to be said.

Oh, and BTW do you still think Mortonjag's not a genuine quack?
mortonjag 2008-06-15 21:32:29
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 15 2008, 09:04 PM) [snapback]460530[/snapback]
I suppose, and since you've never been guilty of the same thing I'll obviously now withdraw my request.
Alluding to it can reinforce the position just as well. I'm surprised you haven't noticed rolleyes.gif



Nach0-I've already said that I once regarded you as fairly well balanced. I thought you did an excellent job as moderator. Mortonjag has got to many folk regarding the stewardship of the club-that was deliberate. You choose to pursue an ongoing attempt to discredit me when you have no way of proving I'm wrong.

I really mean this sincerely-PLEASE stop the sniping, and false allegations. I have never previously complained to the Mods and it will be ironic if you are the first to be 'clyped on'. Edinton is getting a hard enough time from folk griping because they want my posts censored.

I honestly couldn't give a toss if you want to abuse me, and call me all the names under the sun, but you are deliberately insinuating that I am a liar, and boldly claiming that I am posting purely for self aggrandisement.

If I didn't believe that you ARE basically a decent guy I'd just let you wallow in your own sh1t like the rest of them.

The facts are that I don't lie, that I'm only interested in the welfare of Greenock Morton, that I will only release relevant information when I believe that will be helpful to the club, and that well over a dozen posters can confirm what I say.

It is possible that tomorrow I will be releasing some information which I believe should be in the public domain....and it's not that I'll have reached the 20,000 posts.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 21:42:57
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Jun 15 2008, 09:35 PM) [snapback]460545[/snapback]
Was meant to be sarcastic, yes this stuff is getting tedious. Dont know why people have it out for MJ as much as MJ has it out for Dougie but at the end of the day the forum would be dead if MJ wasnt here. He gets discussions going, fair enough they may be as long as the crusades and pointless arguments being raised but for christ sake its going too far. MJ drop the hate campaign as I dont think you noticed but no1 wants to hear about it for the 20th time on one thread, the rest of you should just chill out a bit.

Joe-I don't have any 'hate' campaign. Sometimes it looks like others hate Mortonjag.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 21:45:38
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Jun 15 2008, 09:38 PM) [snapback]460549[/snapback]
Ahh, property development my friend is the way forward. Can easily profit from it. Might be unwise to buy right now due to the desperate state of the economy but consider it, buy from auctions, set a budget and get it done asap and move on. Profit is great sometimes depending on the area/prices.

Very true but £100,000 doesn't buy much property those days.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 21:51:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 15 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]460534[/snapback]
Don't worry doc. tongue.gif

laugh.gif I would miss 'Another day-another attack on the SNP'! wink.gif

QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 15 2008, 09:25 PM) [snapback]460543[/snapback]
That's it lavvy heid, yer tea's oot. wink.gif



Lavvy heid?

Cistern cranium to you bowl brain.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 21:55:07
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 15 2008, 09:12 PM) [snapback]460539[/snapback]
You would have to ask his BF. wink.gif

Any one in particular?
mortonjag 2008-06-15 21:59:51
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Jun 15 2008, 09:48 PM) [snapback]460557[/snapback]
Im sure you can find a few flats within £100k. Never know till you have a look.

To make anything decent you'd have to take on stuff that needed a helluva refurbishment-sure the money's there if yo have the energy and contacts. I'm looking for something that's not too labour intensive, doesn't involve unsociable hours, and stimulates my mind.


I guess I'm now about to get half a dozen suggestions from the usual culprits! laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-15 22:05:33
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 15 2008, 08:56 PM) [snapback]460526[/snapback]
Surely any post that is made on any forum is in that poster's opinion, therefore negating the need to add that statement at the end of every post? All in my opinion, mind. rolleyes.gif tongue.gif

huh.gif

Well I might say, 'I believe Turkey won tonight'.

If you replied-'They did not', should I assume that to be an opinion?

Put like that it sounds like an 'assertion'.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 22:20:34
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 15 2008, 09:53 PM) [snapback]460559[/snapback]
I'm sure it was. However it doesn't mean that you get to act as final arbiter over every single piece of Morton discussion or criticism of the club hierarchy.
You're describing two different things here. On the subject of discrediting, you're playing fast and loose with the definition. On the second part, how could I prove anything wrong when I don't know what you're saying?

What have I said that could possibly warrant complaint?
As long as we're talking about who's lying about whom here, can I ask at which point I used the word "purely", or "solely", or similar?

Because I'm looking at my original post right now and it says this:

"On some level, maybe. You're interested primarily in self-aggrandisement"

as response to your saying that you're only interested in the viability of Greenock Morton.
So you keep saying, meanwhile you mewl with the ferocity of a sack of angry kittens when trust members don't jump to attention when you click your fingers asking for information.
I am genuinely looking forward to it.

unsure.gif I didn't really want a sermon-just an acknowledgement that I'm not 'at it'! wink.gif

QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 15 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]460570[/snapback]
i'll buy a season ticket for love street if he says anything of interest at all on here tomorrow, never mind something mind-blowing about morton.

laugh.gif That'll be a promise I take it. You'd be a damned sight cheaper contributing £100 to Andy M's coffers and I'll match it as promised. There- a golden opportunity to show everybody that you're not the sad frustrated cynic you appear to be.
Oh and will it be OK if I appoint Andy M as the arbiter on 'what's of interest'? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-15 22:23:11
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 15 2008, 10:18 PM) [snapback]460574[/snapback]
Read what i said in the post below:
I will repeat what i said, as clearly you suffer from the same problem as Cawston, you lack the ability to understand:

I do not condone this, but i understand this.

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mortonjag 2008-06-15 23:10:30
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jun 15 2008, 10:20 PM) [snapback]460576[/snapback]
Yes, simply because I refuse to believe that someone who purports to be a Doctor (retired or otherwise) would have the time, energy or inclination to spend so much of his time on a football messageboard spouting such rubbish/vitriol.

Are you accusing Mortonjag of masquerading as a qualified physician?
mortonjag 2008-06-15 23:19:44
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 15 2008, 10:21 PM) [snapback]460578[/snapback]
I'll show you mine if you show me yours, i.e. quit courting attention and actually post something substantial and you'll get my approval (which seems to bother you a hell of a lot more than it should.)

Can I get an apology for your misquoting me, by the way?

'Quit courting attention'-then what would be the point in posting-this is a pubic massage board, and I haven't a bloody clue what you're girning about, but if I've misquoted you it certainly wasn't deliberate and you can have as many apologies as you wish! wink.gif

QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 15 2008, 10:35 PM) [snapback]460584[/snapback]
as i said earlier, i'll have nothing to do with your tawdry self-aggrandising scheme, which takes cynicism to a level hitherto unknown on this forum.

as for your last suggestion, i'll be leaving andy out of this entirely as i would not ask someone i have respect for to have anything to do with something so monumentally dull as your patter.

....and what if Andy felt differently about my 'tawdry self aggrandising scheme'.This season ticket for the Midden's going to cost you two paws you know.

QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 15 2008, 10:41 PM) [snapback]460587[/snapback]
Jag,

can you reveal what you're gonna reveal at midnight tonight please.

Thanks in advance.

smile.gif



I'd love to, but I'm on a promise tonight and it's been a LONG time! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-15 23:34:02
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 15 2008, 11:13 PM) [snapback]460600[/snapback]
surely mortonjag is just a persona?

Oh indeed Trumpet-a persona which is a real person for too many misguided microcephalics.

Nobody here knows the person behind that persona-possibly nobody ever will.

Indeed some folk would have much egg on their faces if they discovered how close Mortonjag has been to the Directors.

That is all.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 23:40:12
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 15 2008, 10:20 PM) [snapback]460575[/snapback]
It would require unsociable hours to begin with, and depending on how much you're willing to spend on staff it wouldn't allow you to work from home at all, but self-storage is only just taking off in this country and I think that there is tons of room for new players.

I'm in the US quite a lot and have encountered self-storage facilities, which even in the rather down-at-heel area that I stay in seem to be flourishing in a way that only dollar stores, family restaurants and payday advance services seem to. The same would apply, I am sure, in the west of Scotland.

The beauty of self-storage seems to be in the fact that 1) if you franchise it, start-up costs are low because the building is generally modular, 2) there's not actually that much customer service involved - in fact customers seem to prefer being left to their own devices and 3) here, at least, it's a relatively new market.

Either that or open a Subway franchise in a tourist/growing town, although almost all of them have them now, I believe. Subway is a license to print money once it gets rolling.

That said 100k probably isn't enough for either of these.

Many thanks- I shall do some research.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 23:51:34
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 15 2008, 11:37 PM) [snapback]460610[/snapback]
you mean you used to sit behind them? ohmy.gif

edit to add:

btw - is this the 'real' mortonjag i'm talking to, or whoever hacks his account from time to time? mellow.gif

ure tawkyng two ureselph-munky hear tie ping-gude nite

pee ess dad sendes hys luv-hee reely phansees ewe-sez phancee ah we shagge wun dai sune
mortonjag 2008-06-16 11:51:16
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 16 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]460720[/snapback]
That's all well and good but what does keeping it up his sleeve achieve? f*** all so his opinions are null and void. I've absolutely nothing against mortonag but if i'm being honest I lost a lot of respect for him after he bottled out of going to the rally.

If the "dossier" he had against Rae was put to more use in a pro-active manner I'd see the point to his crusade but as it stands it's nothing more than aimless rants on a website.

What are you so afraid of, mj? And that includes your "trusted posters" who are apparently feart to share info. If I had info on Morton being badly run I'd sing like a canary. biggrin.gif



QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 16 2008, 11:29 AM) [snapback]460761[/snapback]
Just so we're clear lads - all I wanted to do was clear up any confusion on whether or not MJ has a pile of stuff that ranges from the extremely interesting to the outright damning. He has. Lots of it.

It is his choice when and if he uses it. I just wanted to short circuit one of the most frequent accusations he faces - ie that he has nothing to talk about. He has.

Now if you all want to have a go about him not sharing it, then fire in. But be under no illusions that he is not talking out his arse or making up any of this stuff.

Right, my last input on this thread.

TonInDublin

Thanks John, and ONLY Mortonjag shall be the judge of what to say and when.

Some of our posters on this very thread accuse Mortonjag of arrogance and self aggrandisement.

Mortonjag regards THEIR demeanour as disrespectful, ill judged, ignorant, presumptuous, offensive, self obsessed, odious, and arrogant in the extreme.

None of those gentlemen can hold a cande to Mortonjag in the experience, wisdom, and CONFIDENTIALITY stakes.

Mortonjag, as stated often before, does not make mistakes.

The Monkey and Fing agree.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 12:17:46
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 16 2008, 02:18 AM) [snapback]460641[/snapback]
Gidday bigdoc1874,

I canny read the bubble in your profile.

Is it worth my while buying a magnifying glass ?

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P.S. Are you a proper doc like mortonjag ?

Can you help him with his penile wrinkles ?

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mortonjag 2008-06-16 12:19:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 16 2008, 06:40 AM) [snapback]460658[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

I got up early this morning to read the first of 'Uncle Mortonjag's bedtime stories for little kiddiewinkles' but couldn't find it.

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some possible stories ???

The 3 Bares ?

Ebony - The Black Beauty ?

Cappielow - Home of Dreams ?

The Siege of Fort Matilda ?

Doug and the Dream Stalk ?

huh.gif huh.gif

Just watch this space Newt!



Tonight I may tell you the new one nicked unashamedly from Disneyland and entitled Donald Ducks appearance in Mickey Mouse Show.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 12:29:42
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jun 16 2008, 12:16 PM) [snapback]460798[/snapback]
MJ you are perfectly entitled to discuss what you know with whoever you want at a time of your own choosing but if you decide to 'trail' your inside knowledge then folk will ask where's the beef. The choice of course is yours but people will draw their own conclusions about your motivation if you continue to brief selected individuals by PM while lauding your ability to maintain confidentiality.

As for the self praising, blow hard nonsense above, I wish you would give it a rest. You are a better poster than that suggests.




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Will you be offended if I call you a patronising young fud? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-16 12:50:12
AND STILL



Not a soul seems to have a clue as to the function and plans of our Director

Folk who would claim from personal experience to know the number of pigmented warts on Shoogly's arse, and who hate the Jag with a poison, have failed to produce even the merest speculation about the function of this mystery man. Why is the Jag being allowed to run riot with ridiculous questions?

I'm really beginning to wonder if this man exists. Has ANYBODY seen him or spoken with him-is he into Fudgy Wudgys or more a Buchanan's Toffee chappie. What sort of car does he drive-or does he have a personal chuffer?

The Trust said it was going to find out for its enquiring member-they MUST know the truth by now-Jim McColl's a Director (NOT the fans' representative-I HASTEN to add) but he IS a fellow director of Mr Donald-the Trust MUST know but they ain't for saying nuffin'!

Somebody must surely have a WEE bit of information-he's bloody loaded-wealthier than Mileson-is Shoogly about to spring the surprise of all surprises by signing a brand new squad with Alistair's pocket Money?

Let's face it-there's a new share issue, and it's NOT to buy players, but we're upgrading to SPL standard.


HMMMMMMMMMM!
mortonjag 2008-06-16 13:08:48
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jun 16 2008, 12:57 PM) [snapback]460823[/snapback]
I find that very little offends me - perhaps you should adopt a similar outlook smile.gif

Self assessment is often misleading-warrant those who think they can outsmart Mortonjag.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 13:18:30
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 16 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]460816[/snapback]
A few points.

I've tried to ignore him via the "ignore" facility but until there is a function that stops you seeing his quoted posts then it is pointless.

I've never reported any poster to the Mods and can’t imagine that I ever would.

I've tried to simply ignore him and not rise to the bait (and that’s what it is) but I’m too weak/easily offended /infuriated with his unrelenting vindictiveness -I will try harder from now on.

He flatters himself to say that I am one of his pseudo personas

Of course he's a real Doctor,............... like Dr. Pepper 's a real Doctor. rolleyes.gif

Mortonjag is a real doctor who SUPPORTS Greenock Morton -NOT some shambolic Steptoe and Son farce run by an ageing confectioner whose 'heart's in the right place'.

Mortonjag IS real hoops.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 13:39:31
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 16 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]460835[/snapback]
Without making any unpleasant remarks can you honestly tell us that you think Douglas Rae is misusing Morton funds or doing something untoward and to damage the club?

Also, you seem incredibly aggrieved that you don't know what Mr Donald's role is within the club but do you think that fans of clubs like Livi, Thistle and Dundee are fully aware of every going on within their club’s boardrooms?

If you really have evidence for anything that might be illegal or even to the detriment of Morton then please stop boasting that you have this information and chastising those that don’t and act upon it. Report it to any relevant authority that you feel may be able to help.

Please, no snide comments when you reply.

You know perfectly well that I believe almost everything the Chairman does those days is 'to the detriment of the club'.

This thread is NOT about the Chairman-it's about Alistair Donald. Given the lack of information from the usual 'sources' I'd not be in the slightest surprised if he's disappeared in disgust. Who could blame him?

Oh and I just happened to notice Donkey Dave peeping over the fence-hi Dave-will you be first to congratulate the Jag on his 20,000th post? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-16 14:25:44
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 16 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]460856[/snapback]
Congrats to Mortonjag on the 20,000 post. laugh.gif


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QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 16 2008, 02:19 PM) [snapback]460857[/snapback]
So I'm not getting an answer then? blink.gif

Did you ASK a question about Alistair Donald?
mortonjag 2008-06-16 14:36:56
QUOTE(OLDTON @ Jun 16 2008, 02:27 PM) [snapback]460864[/snapback]
If innes does sign then ot would be gr8 news.

Our defence may be as good as our attack this year.

WAKEY WAKEY

It will be a good signing if its true-it's beginning to look like Goals for 29 Goals against 12

I'd like to see some attractive football next season! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-16 14:54:15
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 16 2008, 02:40 PM) [snapback]460870[/snapback]
That's utterly pathetic !

I thought the intention was to keep this civilised. I'm constantly accused of hijacking threads, and if you don't mind I'd like to keep this one on topic. What do you think of Alistair Donald's contribution so far?

The club have now had him on Board for six months, and he's a very, very wealthy man. You have always seemed closer to the coal face than me-or perhaps I should say that every time I have made an allegation you have 'rubbished' it on the basis of your superior knowledge.

Can you shed any light on the subject of my dedicated thread?
mortonjag 2008-06-16 15:31:50
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 16 2008, 03:00 PM) [snapback]460877[/snapback]
MJ,

You clearly are in possesion of some significant information regarding the running of and possibly future of the club we all support. Knowledge is power and with power comes responsibility. I therefore put it to you that you are currently acting in a very irresponsible way, because as far as i can see you are not doing anything constructive with this information to try and change things for the better. All you are in fact doing is spouting a lot of heresay and conjecture (and it will remain so until it is backed up with concrete facts).

I would even go so far as to say that by failing to act upon or at least make public the information you have, you have now become an accomplice in whatever sinister stuff is allegedly going on behind the scenes at Cappielow. In the eyes of the law, knowing a crime is being commited and failing to act upon this is just as bad as taking part in the crime. So too, if it transpires that our club has been damaged by the actions of the Chairman (actions which you claim to have intimate knowledge of), and you have failed to act on this information, you will be seen in the eyes of the fans as someone who could have done something to stop it, but instead chose to stay silent and let things continue to go downhill.

If you are so against DDFR,
then why are you protecting him by surpressing information on his supposed mismanagement of the club.

This position seems to be a complete contradiction, which makes me wonder what your motivations are.

There's a lot of conjecture in there my old friend and adversary. If I KNEW that any 'crime' had been committed, I'd have 'phoned the Polis' All I said was that I wouldn't be surprised if Mr Donald had buggered off in disgust. Folk are ALWAYS putting words into my mouth. He 's certainly been 'awful' quiet, and failed to show up at the recent EGM, which I thought would have been his line of business.

QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 16 2008, 03:18 PM) [snapback]460884[/snapback]
If you would like to keep this on topic as you say, then why not answer my question? Do you have information that Douglas Rae or Alistair Donald or any member of the board are misusing Morton's money or deliberately working to the detriment of Morton FC?

You ask, what do I think of Alistair Donald's contribution so far? I have no opinion as I do not know what his contributions have so far been. I could of course be wrong but without the knowledge of such enlightened people as yourself and your "pm club" I have no other reason to believe that they have been anything other than positive and helpful.

He may be wealthy but that does not mean he will necessarily invest that wealth in the club. It does suggest though that in accumulating that wealth he will have gained a degree of knowledge and wisdom that could be beneficial to Morton and that there for is the purpose of his involvement.

If you know different please tell.

My 'pm club'-good gracious-only a very short time ago I was a lone wolf regularly spouting tedious p1sh and drivel, and now I'm some bloody celebrity with his own 'pm club'.

If you want to join my 'pm club', pm me. I'm ALWAYS gracious.

I gather that you know as much about Mr Donald as Cappie does, and he's not in my pm club so far.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 15:42:41
QUOTE(Capuan @ Jun 16 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]460890[/snapback]
ok ive been away for the last week - any chance someone could briefly fil me in with whats goin on here?

Has mortonjag found some sort of 'dodgy dossier' left on a train at fort matilda??

No! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-16 15:52:45
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 16 2008, 03:40 PM) [snapback]460895[/snapback]
i think you know that i was not suggesting that there is criminal activity at Cappielow, what i was saying was that according to you something bad is going on - something that isnt good for the club. If i recieved information on such goings on, i would feel compelled to act upon it. By failing to do so, you are arguably just as bad as the Chairman who you are criticising.

Is that what I've said Greacen-stop putting words into my mouth-I just think it is mighty SUSPICIOUS that a man of Donald's wealth can be on the board for six months, and apart from a Tilly scrap-I don't even believe there was anything on GMFC-we know NOTHING about the guy. He might as well not be there!

QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 16 2008, 03:44 PM) [snapback]460898[/snapback]
Have I missed something. What crime was committed? Is Mr Donald the main witness or did he commit the said crime, alledgedely? What part did DDFR have in this? I am confused huh.gif unsure.gif cool.gif
Why does it only meet in the afternoon? Is it a secret society or something? What happens if they meet in the dark?

Weegie there's no need to get all dramatic and you know fine well what's meant by my 'pm club'.

There is a hard core of jealous little boys whose little brown Shooglyphile noses are in a communal poke because they are not privy to information which is absolutely none of their business. Indeed, one wonders if they'd have the wit to digest it! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-16 16:16:41
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 16 2008, 04:02 PM) [snapback]460906[/snapback]
Sorry MJ - putting words in your mouth was not my intention. Posts from yourself and others on this (and several other) threads, had lead me to believe that you were in posession of a large amount of damning information regarding the running of our club. I summed this up with the statement "something bad is going on". Was i mistaken in thinking that you have information on mismanagement of the club, or do you just not see mismanagement of the club as a bad thing?

edit to add - i agree that it is strange that we have not heard more about Mr Donalds role at the club, and i am also very curious to see how you think that the mystery surrounding him might fit in with said mismanagement

Well let's put it like this-we know that Arfur and Ian Brown resigned from the Board, and we know from the Tilly (WAS IT IN GMFC.net?)that Mr Donald became a director in January.

That leaves four directors-Steptoe and son, Jim McColl, and the ubiquitous Mr Donald.

I use the word 'ubiquitous' because I believe it's appropriate. Folk keep saying I have NO RIGHT to ask what his function is-on the contrary I believe that the public not only have a right to know about Directors of Limited Companies in which they have an interest, but indeed should surely be able to check in some way or another if all is above board. I have tried to check here for a couple of weeks. The Trust-the biggest shareholder apart from the Shoogly show either doesn't have a clue (bizarre to say the least) or something's amiss.

Let's face it, all we need is a reassuring statement from somebody in the know-something along the lines of-'I have spoken with Mr Donald who concedes that he prefers to play things low key, but assures me he is still very much involved behind the scenes'-that kind of thing would be immensely reassuring, and given the huge number of posters whom seem to know a huge amount about the Shoogly Show, it's hardly asking for the Moon. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-16 16:24:19
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 16 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]460909[/snapback]
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So were you lying when you said you had inside information about the running of the club that showed the Chairman in a bad light?

Are you now saying that TID and Midtons are liars as well as they both say that you hold some important information that would interest and enlighten everyone?

I give up with you Dr.Newal - I can't be bothered discussing this with someone who continually claims the higher intellect and knowledge then reverts back to acting like a spoiled child every time he has his reasoning questioned.

That's perfectly fine by me, Mr Connell.

If I claimed to have inside information which shows Mr Rae up badly, why does that have to relate to Mr Donald-the subject of this thread, as I have now reminded you for the third time. Folk who require multiple reminders do strike me as having limited intellect.

We don't really have to fall out over my entirely reasonable concerns, and I certainly don't see the need for you to resort to attempting to divulge my identity on a pubic massage board, though I find it disturbing that you are unable to spell my surname correctly.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 16:32:56
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 16 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]460911[/snapback]
Your tantrum against the trust was pretty much the same thing, only around ten times less dignified.

Your personal attacks become more pathetic and focussed by the minute ex Mod. There was indeed no tantrum. Fortunately my 'pm club' is there to reassure me when I am repeatedly subjected to your utterly self indulgent sniping. YOUR attempts at point scoring and self aggrandisement are becoming embarrassing. That is THEIR opinion.

What do you think of Mr Donald? You always claim to have the best interests of the club at heart-have you followed his progress? Can you enlighten me at all on his plans.

Indeed WHAT is your agenda? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-16 16:46:26
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Jun 16 2008, 04:21 PM) [snapback]460912[/snapback]
This has to be some of the biggest drivel I have read on this board (And I have read a hell of a lot!! ohmy.gif )

That's a very helpful comment in our quest for the truth!

QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 16 2008, 04:28 PM) [snapback]460915[/snapback]
No - I cannot be the first as Midtons has beaten me again! For what it is worth, well done on the 20K + posts - a feat that we lesser mortals can only dream about. Your indefatigability know no bounds etc. etc. etc.

You are gracious as ever Dave-I expect you'l claim you know hee haw as usual!

QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 16 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]460918[/snapback]
do you think that there is a link between these events?
maybe i am misunderstanding the meaning of the word ubiquitous, but surely the point which you are making is that Mr Donald has not come out and said anything, didnt attend the EGM, and there have been no statements on his role or actions to date. Would this not in fact make him the opposite of ubiquitous (elusive?)
i agree that would be nice.

By ubiquitous I was alluding to the concept of 'everywhere and nowhere'-Arfur and Ian Brown were real live people-OK they maybe didn't do much but they were available to approach should any fan have wished a chat. Mr Donald just doesn't seem to exist either in person, or by way of being quoted on GMFC or in the newspapers. It seems he might as well be a figment of the imagination.

Something doesn't quite fit.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 16:50:03
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 16 2008, 04:37 PM) [snapback]460919[/snapback]
Sorry, you must have been posting that as I was writing my post. Tongue taking out of cheek now tongue.gif
Dear oh dear, don't tell me you have lost your funny bone Dr Jag.

Not really Weegie-I just get upset when folk torment me-I'm above that sort of behaviour as you know.

QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 16 2008, 04:39 PM) [snapback]460921[/snapback]
I'll try to sleep tonight regardless rolleyes.gif

At this exact moment I don't know what to think. I'm not especially bothered that he hasn't come out with any sort of statement with his appointment but I do wonder why he didn't show more of an interest in the EGM.
When was this "always?"

I'm afraid I don't know as much about this as I'd like.
Seeing Morton survive, and seeing Morton prosper, in that order.

That's an interesting term.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 16:53:11
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 16 2008, 04:50 PM) [snapback]460926[/snapback]
I've not said he has, what I said was that I believe he has. wink.gif

....but do you believe in Mr Donald?
mortonjag 2008-06-16 16:58:41
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 16 2008, 04:54 PM) [snapback]460928[/snapback]
Mr Donald may as well be a figment of my imagination for all I know about him. unsure.gif

EXACTLY how I feel-it might as well all be a fairy story. He's never put in an appearance-never made a comment except that Chris Fitzgerald stuff in the Tilly, and clearly hasn't spent a penny on the club where Auld Shoogly appears to be shuffling along as before with his boy child as Co-director.

If he's no use on the Board we might be better off with somebody else.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 17:04:02
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 16 2008, 04:55 PM) [snapback]460929[/snapback]
What, appointment?

Well, that's what it is, isn't it? And it's hardly a relevation... right?

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QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 16 2008, 04:56 PM) [snapback]460931[/snapback]
I just had a look at Mortons entry on companies house - interestingly, the resignations of Ian Brown and Arthur Montford were filed, but the appointment of Alistair Donald was not. Isnt this a bit strange?

edit to add - heres the link

companies house


Surely you're not suggesting that Mr Donald is NOT a director of our club! unsure.gif unsure.gif unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-16 17:15:36
QUOTE(Lancashire Hot Pot @ Jun 16 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]460934[/snapback]
I met Mr Donald at Cappielow for a taped interview. A tape I still have. Mr Donald even contacted me after the article was published to say he was happy with it. Just thought I'd say like.

Have you seen or spoken with him since?

QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 16 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]460935[/snapback]
what do you mean? He was appointed as a director several months ago - well before Brown and Montford resigned... am i missing something?

I don't know much about Companies House. If Morton got a new Director would they not have to tell Companies House?
mortonjag 2008-06-16 17:18:33
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 16 2008, 05:06 PM) [snapback]460937[/snapback]
Does the fact that you didn't post it mean that LCM wins his bet? biggrin.gif

LCM is of no interest to me when we're talking about serious stuff-like yourself he is more interested in self aggrandisement by attempting to put Mortonjag down.

And I DID start the thread!
mortonjag 2008-06-16 17:25:22
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 16 2008, 05:07 PM) [snapback]460938[/snapback]
to be honest i do not know enough about company legislsation to sayfor sure. i would however have assumed that as a public company the club would be duty bound to file any new appointments to the board, so unless i am missing something, it looks like maybe Mr Donald is not a director!

What do you think?

I guess it would depend on what 'being a Director' entails. I thought there were strict regulations about informing of changes in Board details, with time limits, penalties for late information, and even prosecution for deliberately evading responsibility-that's how it's always been with my son's companies-but there again, I'm a mere physician, not privy to the fine details of high finance. It's something which can surely be checked I'd imagine.

QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 16 2008, 05:15 PM) [snapback]460943[/snapback]
Please accept my apologies for not spelling your name correctly.
As for me divulging your identity on a public message board I'm surprised that a man of your intellect needs reminding that it was you yourself who posted your full name and address on a thread not more than a few months ago. You also stated that you were the brother of a teacher at PGHS and I believe you eventually named him. You also like to remind us all that Mortonjag is a persona that you use for your convenience (hence your irritating use of the third person ) and as you pick and chose when to use it and when to be "yourself" I thought I would direct my post at the less infuriating version of you. It was a mistake and if I have offended you and jeopardised your privacy than again I apologise. I'd guess however, that nearly everyone on this board knows your real first and surname as well as your profession, so don't play on the hard done to too much as it really doesn’t sit well with either of you. wink.gif

As I said, I've given up asking what it is you claim to know and who it is that you blame. I stated in my earlier post that my conjecture was due to your method of drip feeding the forum with trinkets of half truths and misleading accusations. I'm sorry if I have mistaken the Mr. Donald thread to be related to the I know something you don’t thread.

An easy mistake to make in the circumstances though.

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mortonjag 2008-06-16 17:41:31
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jun 16 2008, 04:46 PM) [snapback]460923[/snapback]
Beat me to it lol

Used to sit behind them but never raised any concerns to there face as well as not attending the Q & A to raise the issues he bores us all on here with

Oh indeed young man-the possibility that the Club has acted illegally over Alistair Donald is extremely boring to those whose agenda is to undermine Mortonjag. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-16 17:51:26 It seems the 'truth' about Mr Donald may be about to emerge, thanks to the astuteness of Greacen 2000.

It just goes to show that the truth is always worth pursuing-especially when it affects the future of our football club.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 18:16:03
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 16 2008, 05:57 PM) [snapback]460959[/snapback]
So basically your son has put you in as company secretary and you are out of your depth with no knowledge of your roles and responsibilities

OR

perish the thought, you are "at it" with your feigning of ignorance.

As you correctly stated previously, I have no knowledge of what Mr Donald is about but did not want to duck the question.



I think you misunderstood me Dave-I'm fully aware of the regulations for normal Limited Companies-but wondered if maybe Football Clubs were treated differently in the sense that they represent a community-so I wondered if maybe the regulations were more lax, and 'A Director' meant something different from the very clearly defined legal meaning.

If Greenock Morton Football Club are liable to the same rules under the Companies Acts as normal Limited Companies, they have fourteen days in which to notify Companies House of any change in the composition of the Board.

I've now been on line to Companies House, and it's as clear as day that in Law, (unless there's a different rule for football clubs), Alistair Donald IS NOT A DIRECTOR OF GREENOCK MORTON, NOR HAS HE EVER BEEN.

That is truly disturbing information-could this be why it's taken so long to find any answers about him. If he's NOT a director, why did Jim McColl not know about it as the representative of the Club's second biggest shareholder, and if he's NOT a director, why was David Irons talking about Alistair Donald and the Board after the last game of the season?


Questions require to be answered!
mortonjag 2008-06-16 18:30:47
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 16 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]460969[/snapback]
I don't think bringing Irons into it is particularly fair, as I doubt he knows anymore than the layman.

What does need to be asked is why Donald himself referred to himself as being on the board when he cannot possible have been without his own signature.

In any case, kudos to Greacen2000 for revealing this to Morton fans - at least someone still believes in open communication.

Bringing Irons into WHAT?

Questions have still to be answered before we all jump to conclusions. I merely commented that David Irons was specifically talking about Alistair Donald and the Board separately from 'The Chairman and his Family' in the Radio Scotand interview afer the Partick game.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by the last bit though.

mortonjag 2008-06-16 18:42:56
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 16 2008, 06:25 PM) [snapback]460974[/snapback]
Your understanding is wrong in every single way. Read the board.

NO son-don't forget the 'PC club'-port-ton is talking about something entirely different from the Alistair Donald situation. It's dangerous to jump to conclusions-especialy when Mortonjag's PC club's been in action, and there are many, many things which will only be revealed when it seems correct for the good of the club.

Could it be that Greacen is a member of that select group of confidantes too?

Could it be that Mortonjag was behind all the investigative journalism?

Could it be that Mortonjag was in turn 'tipped off' by somebody else in the 'PC Club'.

Those are things only members of Mortonjag's PC club will ever know.

Not that you'd want to be part of some underground resistance movement run purely for the self aggrandisement of a demented old fud.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 18:58:41
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 16 2008, 06:37 PM) [snapback]460984[/snapback]
The fact that Alistair Donald is being paraded as a director even though he isn't (yet?) registered as one.

Yeah, we wouldn't want anyone jumping to conclusions about things like "prosecution for deliberately evading responsibility."

That would be terrible.
I'm taking a shot in the dark here, but I think you've known this for ages but preferred to play the "I know something you don't know" game rather than post it. I don't think you're really that bothered about it, either, and (not for the first time) it'll be left for others to ask the questions, despite your insistence that you're the voice for the voiceless.

Indeed you are sonny boy, and the sooner you stop fantasising about Mortonjags 'self aggrandisement' and take a long hard look in the mirror, the sooner Mortonjag's 'PC club' will stop having to change their knickers every ten minutes.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 19:02:21
QUOTE(Youngsa @ Jun 16 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]460997[/snapback]
Its been a few years since my last Company and Business Law classes but I'm sure someone will have the answer at their fingertips

Can Alistair Donald be co-opted on to the board in a Business Advisor type capacity without being a director of the company and without informing Companies House? unsure.gif

Why all the publicity about him being a Director (in January) followed by a change in details on the match day programme where he is clearly listed as one of four Directors?
mortonjag 2008-06-16 19:04:17
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 16 2008, 06:59 PM) [snapback]461005[/snapback]
Indeed you are sonny boy, and the sooner you stop fantasising about Mortonjags 'self aggrandisement' and take a long hard look in the mirror, the sooner Mortonjag's 'PC club' will stop having to change their knickers every ten minutes. laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-16 19:07:00
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 16 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]461011[/snapback]
You only just found it out?



AYE
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mortonjag 2008-06-16 19:21:27
QUOTE(Youngsa @ Jun 16 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]461020[/snapback]
No idea mate. Just a case of floating possible solutions to obvious discrepancies. Maybe he wanted payment in millions but was only offered fudgy wudgy wink.gif

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QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 16 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]461024[/snapback]
You should probably thank Greacen2000 for bringing it to your attention, then. It's only polite biggrin.gif

You are still trying to second guess the issue and it's not good for you. The mortonjag PM Group does not discus business with third parties. Greacen is a good chap and a fine poet too.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 19:35:14
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 16 2008, 07:28 PM) [snapback]461036[/snapback]
OK, without breaching confidentiality among the group (a matter that's very dear to your heart), is there an approximate date that you'll be disclosing the identity of any people who may - or may not - be taking up shares over the coming days and weeks?

Just so I can pencil it into my diary biggrin.gif

My son would be angry if I discussed business on a pubic massage board.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 19:43:07
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 16 2008, 05:55 PM) [snapback]460957[/snapback]
An issue that you didn't raise, incidentally. Someone else had to because you wouldn't.

In any case, I don't know why he's not signed on, but before you get moist at the idea of DDF and Alistair doing hard time you might want to phone your son and ask what happens in situations like these (i.e. nothing at all.)



The Mortonjag PM club is running out of knickers-please stop.

If you are suggesting that successful prosecutions are not made for infringing company law you are mistaken.

Not that I'd want to see Auld Shoogly in jail.


I've always had a soft spot for convicted criminals.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 19:57:30
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 16 2008, 07:37 PM) [snapback]461049[/snapback]
the sharp-eyed amongst you will have noticed that while arthur montford's termination of appointment occurred on 10/12/2007, the notification to companies house was dated 14/5/2008, and the companies house index of this report is dated 5/6/2008.

in other words, if you'd checked with companies house a mere fortnight ago, you'd have concluded that arthur was still a director ohmy.gif rolleyes.gif tongue.gif

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Aye very good Trumpet, and you'll be telling us next that Mr Donald sent his forms in January and is patiently waiting till some wee lassie in Companies House stops powdering her f*nny and files them!
mortonjag 2008-06-16 20:10:23
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 16 2008, 08:03 PM) [snapback]461064[/snapback]
i won't smile.gif

Good. Now if I'm not mistaken you're the chappie who kept trying to muffle me on this issue.

I have suspected for a long time that you are Alistair Donald and took a monstrous huff when Shoogly wanted £25,000,000 for his cowboy outfit.

There's no need to deny it.

Everybody believes Mortonjag now.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 20:23:20
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 16 2008, 07:29 PM) [snapback]461037[/snapback]
Yes. Anyone can attend board meetings but only directors can vote. It is possible that Morton's Memo and Articles have a share qualification for directors and it could be the case that Mr Donald has had to wait for the current share issue in order to acquire his shares.

That is a matter for the the board and the shareholders. Its not something to be answered on a fans message board.

It is also possible that a pig may fly!

The club publicised his appointment as a 'Director' in January.

He's been listed in the match programme as a 'Director' ever since.

I'd love to believe he's still involved with our club-he is very wealthy and as you said a respected businessman (well I think you said respectable) but I digress.

Companies House exists for a purpose of which you, more than most of us, are very well aware, and five months down the line the public information (on which decisions regarding the club including the current share issue depend) demonstrates quite clearly that Greenock Morton Football Club has three Directors-two Raes and Jim McColl.

That is utterly misleading if Mr Donald IS still a Director, and information regularly disseminated by the Club has been utterly misleading if he is not.

You cannot have it both ways. You were very quick to point out to my friend Big Doc 1874 that the courts don't look between the lines.

So far as I can see, Alistair Donald is not legally a Director of Morton Football club.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 20:25:51
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 16 2008, 08:18 PM) [snapback]461072[/snapback]
Victor Meldrew does NOT believe it!

And neither do I! tongue.gif

What's Shoogly saying about all this then-it does look a bit like the usual shambles Dave. Did he give the stuff to JM to drop in at Companies House or something? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-16 20:30:48
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 16 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]461066[/snapback]
You better tell me what you know Jag or I'll trail ye.

It was big Gillian in the Boardroom with a brick that was meant to go in the wall and bore the legend 'Mortonjag loves Shoogly xxx'.

It is being paid for by standing order.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 20:38:21
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 16 2008, 08:10 PM) [snapback]461067[/snapback]
You have to control the rage Nacho. Keep it inside, hide it away, then in 9 years and 3 months you can go mental in the Oak Mall with a chainsaw.

He wont go to jail.



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There should be an absolute bar against prosecuting children under the age of 12. Although opinion on consultation was divided, the majority of those responding favoured a bar. A bar at this age would be consistent with the requirements of the European Convention of Human Rights. 12 is also the age at which a child is presumed to have sufficient maturity and understanding for many civil law purposes, including participating in civil court proceedings.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 20:41:58
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jun 16 2008, 07:56 PM) [snapback]461060[/snapback]
theres a doctor in Govanhill Health Centre, Dr Sharp.. who has a photie of an auld morton side above his desk in the office.... once had a conversation aboot the ton with him whilst he examined my genitals.. talking about morton and getting yer genitals rubbed at the same time... hmm.
he also has a laptop on his desk that he kids on he is looking at and typing into.....

please tell me that wasnt you! laugh.gif

cannae be many mare docs that are ton fans tongue.gif

I retired shortly after that-whatever happened to that gangrenous left testicle?
mortonjag 2008-06-16 20:47:04
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 16 2008, 08:31 PM) [snapback]461083[/snapback]
Why don't you ask him yourself? As the boards resident know it all perhaps you could even answer the question yerself...

Nope-my term of office elapsed, and Nach0 took over.

As Shoogly's spy, you must have SOME view on the matter!

QUOTE(stuart @ Jun 16 2008, 08:40 PM) [snapback]461092[/snapback]
He could ask it at the next question and answer session.


What a novel idea Stuart-go straight to the top of the class. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-16 20:50:59
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 16 2008, 08:46 PM) [snapback]461100[/snapback]
I think the best way to try and sort all this stuff out is to actually report the club to the relevant agencies and see what comes from that. Anyway doctor, if you really are a doctor wink.gif , whats the recovery time for a sheared metacarspal (the pinkie one) why didn't they put a plaster on it, and why is it still sore as f**k after 6 weeks ?

You will need to stop punching the wall in rage.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 20:53:36
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 16 2008, 08:37 PM) [snapback]461087[/snapback]
You're lucky Doc, I was just looking out the inflatable hammer I was gonna use to do you in.

Inflatable hammer-aye right-stick it in yer blow up doll.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 20:57:53
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 16 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]461104[/snapback]
blink.gif rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

As if your ego didn't require massaging even more, you even have your own fan club.

BTW, I do agree with some (nay, most) of what you've been saying. wink.gif



You are welcome to massage my ego whenever you choose with prior consent from port-ton and Deego.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 21:05:53
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 16 2008, 08:58 PM) [snapback]461114[/snapback]
can anyone join tongue.gif

Only if you hate Nach0, love Shoogly but think he's misguided, and can supply the secret password.



It's actually snottercloth, but don't tell anyone else.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 21:14:38
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 16 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]461116[/snapback]
Haven't really been on much over the last few days and I am just taking in the news about AD not registered at Company house ? Is that why there is a share issue ? Obviously if Mr Donald was not involved would this affect the interest in the share issue ?

It looks like this Chris.

For some reason AD has NEVER existed as a Morton Director at Companies House, but has always (since January) been quoted as a 'director'-Tilly, match programmes, quotes from DI etc.

If I was going to buy shares I'd want to know the profile of the company-that's what Companies House is for, among other things. If I saw that a struggling provincial football club had just taken on a director worth almost 100 million I'd be thinking-'get in there'.

But he's no there! sad.gif

My gut feeling is that he f*cked off in disgust.

mortonjag 2008-06-16 21:23:13
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 16 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]461120[/snapback]
so thats a no then sad.gif

I lied-the only pre-requisite is that you p.m. me with some info re Shoogly's incompetence. It doesn't have to be true-I'll deal with that bit-and you're a fully fledged member! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-16 21:31:42
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 16 2008, 09:12 PM) [snapback]461124[/snapback]
nice to see your paranoia is still holding laugh.gif laugh.gif
Why?

It is perfectly possible that I have no opinion on this matter.

It is also perfectly possible that I could not care if the admin has been completed for a new director,or not.

What does intrigue me is why you have expended so much time and effort to reach this stage? When is your Q and A session?

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'And why did you amputate the wrong leg Doctor'?

'The admin hadn't been completed so I felt entitled to assume just exactly what I pleased'.


Nothing short of criminal that answer Tailbearer, especially with this ongoing share issue. Are you trying to tell us Donald IS a director, when Companies House is saying he's not-it's no joking matter.

I've got all the printouts I require, and don't you worry, I'll be double checking with them first thing tomorrow, so if you want to get the stuff in the letterbox you'd better get that ass in gear pronto.

I'm speaking metaphorically of course-well some of it is!
mortonjag 2008-06-16 21:35:07 Fraid my choice isn't listed Chris, but I still love the Ton!
mortonjag 2008-06-16 21:38:57
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 16 2008, 09:15 PM) [snapback]461128[/snapback]
No.

pouffe
mortonjag 2008-06-16 21:45:17
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 16 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]461131[/snapback]
i cant say that i have ever punched a wall in rage, just seems to be taking a while to get sorted. Thanks for the advice anyway.

I thought you were just being mad as usual. If they've stabilised it properly it'll heal in its own good time-small bone fractures are notoriously difficult to predict. It's the same with the pain-varies quite a lot from one patient to another. A stookie doesn't help because the bone is 'fixed' in tissue and the adjoining bones help to add rigidity.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 22:54:13
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 16 2008, 10:24 PM) [snapback]461191[/snapback]
Fill your boots old timer.

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mortonjag 2008-06-16 23:02:03
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 16 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]461172[/snapback]
stabilized it !!! if that means that it now points in a completely different direction then yes its stabilized blink.gif


laugh.gif You didn't use wee Nickerlesses all new NHS which 'meets patient demand' perchance?
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 16 2008, 10:09 PM) [snapback]461178[/snapback]
Nothing personal...but this adopting of spelling things in the American way is really starting to irritate me, the amount of UK academic journals and textbooks that do this now is simply beyond belief!

Your grammar, spelling, and syntax are nothing short of atrocious-did you really get a degree from a proper university?
mortonjag 2008-06-16 23:06:18
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jun 16 2008, 10:44 PM) [snapback]461211[/snapback]
An inept, unprofessional, incompetent shambles is what it is.

Understatement of the week.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 23:09:19
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 16 2008, 09:54 PM) [snapback]461160[/snapback]
today's painful saga from mentaljag is the online equivalent of dougie with his microphone in the centre circle. initial groaning followed by intense irritation finished off with near catatonia.

Enjoy Love St.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 23:14:23
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 16 2008, 07:05 PM) [snapback]461016[/snapback]
Accountants apply the tax law to minimise their clients tax exposure. That's called playing by the rules. They don't write the tax legislation, merely apply it. Tax evasion is theft and any accountant caught doing that would get slung out the brownies.

I am not condoning the apparently lax approach the club has to this although I would interested in what the true extent of the problem is. You are not, however, comparing apples with apples here. What is being discussed on this thread are people who apparently set out to deliberately obtain a season ticket by fraudulent deception i.e. steal it.

That's theft and it is insulting to have my profession placed in the same box, especially by someone who shares the usual endearing doctor traits of arrogance and never being able to admit when they are wrong especially when they don't know enough about a particular subject to pontificate on it!

Your gout is clearly playing up again. It's ignorant to tar all members of any profession with the same brush Mr Elliot.

.....and Mortonjag never makes mistakes as you very well know.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 23:20:40
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 16 2008, 10:15 PM) [snapback]461181[/snapback]
so the club are being cheapskate by not charging people money? i would call that incompetence, but don't let me ruin your fun with the english language.

if you were chocolate you'd lick yourself all over and get back on the plate.

Cheapskate-paying peanuts with the inevitable result, and don't dare compare your pathetic massacre of our native tongue with my 'honed to perfection' mastery.

Enjoy Love Street.
mortonjag 2008-06-17 05:27:35
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 17 2008, 12:58 AM) [snapback]461276[/snapback]
Come come! You say no hard feelings the other day, then post this p1sh, Doctor? Come on, I wasn't being selfish, and views being aired back this up - I asked for you to be "reigned in" for the good of this messageboard. You seem to be miffing more people than you don't.
Merely a warning shot. And hell, it worked - for about two days!
MortonJag makes some great points, is funny a lot of the time and can be a good read.

He just repeats it all in 562 other posts, within half an hour. The same stuff.....and if you disagree or suggest you've heard it before, then you get mock indignation from him and his snivelling sycophants.

If you want this board going down the sh1tter, it's your call.
God tell me about it - this guy called me a p***k once!


We had exactly the same stuff from Donga about a month ago, and I think it's outrageous that posters start calling the Mods in question simply because their own selfish requests are not met




That's exactly what I said. I have no hard feeling Donga-that in no way alters my opinion on the issue!

Furthermore this recent post merely alluded to you in terms of wanting censorship applied. It was , as I'm sure you know, directed at a hard core of posters who regularly clype to the Mods only as and when their underhand, devious, abusive, and often offensive attacks on this poster are unsuccessful.

You have never-well I don't believe you have-tried to undermine my honesty and motives. In that respect I rate you well above those verminous trollops.

One final point-don't kid yourself about general feeling with a few selected quotes-I couldn't get away from my computer yesterday for dealing with pm's.

You are one of the good guys. Why not become a member of the Mortonjag PM club? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-17 05:36:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 16 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]461171[/snapback]
can anyone answer my simple questions please ?

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They don't do facts Newt! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-17 05:47:14
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 16 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]460820[/snapback]
Is he donating money to Andy's webcast. blink.gif

Did anyone else read this?
He really should have said it on one or two,..or six of his other posts. wink.gif

That REALLY came as a surprise to you?

I also offered to match any donations from my regular detractors to a total of another £100 (I've already matched Scott in Belgium and Ton in Dublin to that tune.

I thought it would be a good opportunity to prove that, like me, they DO have the Ton at heart. So far nobody has contributed.

Nach0 claims it's all about self aggrandisement-he seems to know an awful lot about that sort of thing.

So there you go RH-I don't think you're really a nasty bloke, and I KNOW you genuinely love the Ton, so why don't you make a wee contribution and I'll double it? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-17 06:32:43
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 16 2008, 11:45 PM) [snapback]461262[/snapback]
Mortonjag regards THEIR demeanour as disrespectful, ill judged, ignorant, presumptuous, offensive, self obsessed, odious, and arrogant in the extreme.

I think there is some game you are playing when you come up with stuff like this. I just have not figured out what it is? Are you a drinker? Do these lines come out when you had a few?

None of those gentlemen can hold a cande to Mortonjag in the experience, wisdom, and CONFIDENTIALITY stakes.

Well I can. I have had forty years in a profession where confidentiality is paramount plus I have seen the inside workings of more companies than you've had hot breakfasts. I've dealt with gangsters and drug dealers in my day in the line I am in and Douglas Rae definitely does not strike me as dishonest in that sense although like most of us, he will stretch the truth. I will agree that he is autocratic and involves himself in areas he should not. I will agree that Morton are being run on a shoestring and as a result the administration is not what it should be. It might even be that some people have not been treated in the way that they should. On the other hand, we lose around £400k a year and the only way to stop it is to get to the SPL. If I was funding these losses, I would trim admin as much as I could also.

I made some suggestions to you a couple of years ago to help the club when I thought I was going to be less busy than I am now. You turned me down flat. Morton are my club and have been all my life and that applies to several generations of my family. My perception looking in is of a fairly inefficient mob who are basically honest and try though. No one, including you has shared anything with me to make me think otherwise. On the contrary, the people I do know who have worked for DDFR (and I know several) have a reasonably high regard for him. The money thats being burned through inefficiency is Douglas Rae's/Golden Casket's (which equals Douglas Rae!) so as long as he puts it up, should I worry?

So, MJ, you've had the opportunity a few times but, here am I, in the dark about the 'dirt' you have. I'm a professional person. I know how to keep my mouth shut. I also know how to differentiate between real dirt and inefficiency. It just makes me think that what you have is a lot of small things (like failing to register a director - doing it late won't even raise an eyebrow at Companies House I promise you!) which are being stirred into something bigger.

I just need the missing link to be able to put your agenda in place. There is something I don't know and I am curious.




Would you care to publicly post the correspondence between us from that couple of years back?

I've lost mine but I recall pretty accurately that then-as now-you resented me questioning Rae, and when your usual long winded and sanctimonious outbursts similar to the one above failed, you 'p.m'd me along the following lines.

'I'm a vastly experienced insolvency practitioner (followed by potted CV) and I believe you and I could approach Mr Rae as 'the voice of the fans'.

I told you straight away, honestly, and in no uncertain terms that I did not believe Mr Rae would be receptive, and mentioned my brother-also an accountant, in charge of a HUGE public institution, a Trust member and an avid Ton fan. I suggested that the three of us could perhaps get together and form a 'think tank'. You did not bother to reply.

I 'turned you down 'flat'! laugh.gif laugh.gif

What's actually happening now is, that in line with several other posters who haven't bothered to look for the truth behind 'Mortonjag', you've suddenly been jolted to your complacent senses because possible financial irregularities have been dug up.


'Haud on'-you are shouting-'I'm the money big cheese on here'-doctors aren't allowed to have opinions about MY specialty...

and it does you ZERO credit.

Folk on this pubic massage board are unimpressed by status, pomp, and big words Mr R-climb down off the hobby horse and feel the pulse of the masses. They are singularly unimpressed by that pompous professional fud Mortonjag-start doing fan speak!

Furthermore, there's no need for the massive 'cream puff' just because you feel excluded from 'The Mortonjag Archives'.

You are welcome to join Mortonjag's PM club-but only when you stop the fawning crap about Rae.

Inverclyde folk know exactly who and what he is-nothing you say will make a jot of a difference.

Finally that comment about failing to register a director 'not bothering Companies House'-that's a totally different story from the information they gave me! unsure.gif

There's a share issue of £1,000,000-or is it twice that-on the go, HADN'T YOU NOTICED? biggrin.gif

If your 'it's a mere bagatelle' attitude to a matter of concern to thousands of fans indeed reflects the morality and accountability of your kind of people, I'm damned glad I'm a doctor.
mortonjag 2008-06-17 06:56:41
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 17 2008, 06:25 AM) [snapback]461288[/snapback]
NEVER!!!! smile.gif

I just find it amusing that I've been brought up in your, and a few other, posts about this. My request for the mods to have a word in your shell-like pale into insignifigance compared to some of the vitriol coming your way.

I admit I have pm'd the mods asking for you to be....muzzled smile.gif at the same time as the posts mentioned above.

I don't believe in censorship, but I believe this board can be a good place to hang about, if moderated properly.

You are weakening-soon I shall have you in my wicked clutches!

TRUSSSSSSSSSSST in me. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-17 07:05:41
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jun 17 2008, 02:24 AM) [snapback]461283[/snapback]
Dabbing whiskey or aftershave on it was my gran's favourite but I always found s*** like Zovirax works best. Beyond that just eat healthily to get your bodies natural defences going well and don't worry about it.

Don't go down on anyone either. You'll give them herpes smile.gif

laugh.gif

Good sound advice from a Jersey Jail!

There's very little you can do I'm afraid, but if you come out in really nasty eruptions, and provided you feel them coming on-(many folk experience a strange tingling a couple of days before the rash appears), and get to the surgery PRONTO you might be able to con your GP into prescribing anti viral tablets-they work the same way as Zovirax but attack the viruses in the bloodstream which is much more effective. If you don't start them very early they won't work. (Same with the cream by the way)

I say 'con' because those drugs are very expensive and most GP's won't prescribe them for mild infections, but it's worth a try.

Good luck!

mortonjag 2008-06-17 07:08:13
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 15 2008, 01:55 PM) [snapback]460387[/snapback]
yes its a complete waste of time and money, most big business has its fair share of dodgy dealings, thats life.

Not according to tonsilitis!
mortonjag 2008-06-17 07:15:19
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 16 2008, 12:29 AM) [snapback]460626[/snapback]
'That's what all the people say
Riding high in April
Shot down in May
But I know I'm gonna change that tune
When I'm back on top, back on top in June'

Good song don't you think Big Doc? Or do you prefer Volk songs? tongue.gif



A friend of mine bought an automobile
At a dollar down and a dollar a week.
Every time he turned the wheel,
It was a dollar down and a dollar a week.

He went riding down the road,
Pinched this girl upon her cheek.
Speed cop took him to the judge,
He got a dollar down and a dollar a week.

Sixty days he laid in jail,
At a dollar down and a dollar a week,
Another man was a lovin' his gal,
At a dollar down and a dollar a week.

When he got out he shot the man,
And laid him in the graveyard six feet deep.
And when he bought the graveyard spot,
it was a dollar down and a dollar a week


A dollar down and a dollar a week


You can get all the things you seek

for a dolar down and a dollar a week! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-17 08:40:42
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 17 2008, 08:26 AM) [snapback]461305[/snapback]
Don't know - but I am sure that there wil be a closing date - perhaps try asking the club!

IF Golden Casket are to remain 75% in control then I do not think that AD will be allowed to "invest" 500K. As a trained advanced abacus user yourself, I am sure that you can crunch the numbers...

You can assume anything that you like - the accuracy of which will depend on a number of factors!

You do not have to have invested any money in a company to become a valuable member of its Board of Directors.

Please note that the above does not represent any official view other than my own and its accuracy cannot be relied upon in a court of law or any other forum. However, I do hope that it has at least attempted in part to answer your query. I am sure that someone else will be able to answer it better than my humble self,


“NOW, what I want is, Facts. Teach these boys and girls nothing but Facts. Facts alone are wanted in life. Plant nothing else, and root out everything else. You can only form the minds of reasoning animals upon Facts: nothing else will ever be of any service to them. This is the principle on which I bring up my own children, and this is the principle on which I bring up these children. Stick to Facts, sir!â€

Hard Times indeed MJ tongue.gif laugh.gif

I thought A Christmas Carol was your favourite bedtime story Neddy-that way you can slever all over old Scrooge 24 hours a day.
mortonjag 2008-06-17 08:46:22
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 17 2008, 08:35 AM) [snapback]461306[/snapback]
No, you didn't seen him; you saw him.

NO

You would have saw him

She seen him-that's what she said and I believe her.
mortonjag 2008-06-17 08:58:34
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 17 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]461313[/snapback]
What the dickens are you on about....

A tale of two chitties.
mortonjag 2008-06-17 09:08:41
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 17 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]461315[/snapback]
as usual, what you say is ambiguous, so let me correct a possible misperception.

it's true that the persona of mortonjag is frequently noisy (and at times noisome), and a degree of muffling would not go amiss rolleyes.gif

'this issue' was the demand to know what alistair donald's investment plans were
. my point was that even if you asked him to his face, he wouldn't tell you if he didn't want to, so the line of questioning was futile.

the question of whether alistair donald is (or has ever been) a director of gmfc is, however, a different kettle of worms, and one on which a shareholder or potential investor (you are of course correct to declare a financial interest) might 'reasonably' expect an answer of gmfc ltd.

of course, the companies house record is capable of several interpretations, given the apparent delays in filings tongue.gif

No it wasn't-it was a general question thrown in for open debate and the key was quite simply 'What's the score folks'!

Mortonjag did not DEMAND to know anything-as usual poor wee Trumpet got carried away in his ever futile attempt to down the Jag!

Your last sentence is of course correct, though Companies House will surely endeavour to clarify the matter should a potential shareholder choose to ask questions.

After all, part of the raison d'etre of Companies House is to protect the public from inaccurate information-intended or otherwise.
mortonjag 2008-06-17 09:39:06
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 17 2008, 09:21 AM) [snapback]461323[/snapback]
Namely...?

I love word associations-or I could do a wee poem instead-there---


Where is the missing Director who's namely
Alistair Donald-I've searched for him gamely
Some say he's holed up wi' Shoogly's faimly
Every excuse that is made is made lamely.

mortonjag 2008-06-17 09:54:09
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 17 2008, 09:47 AM) [snapback]461329[/snapback]
Don't give up the search for 'oor Ally'
After all, he and Rae are so pally
But I don't know why they dilly-dally
When increasing our directorship tally



Maybe the paperwork ended at Cappie,
winsome, but not a reliable chappie-
painfully pondering which way to go.
Frankly I think Donald's just shot the crow.
mortonjag 2008-06-17 10:03:54
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 17 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]461324[/snapback]
hmm, starting not one but two threads looks pretty insistent to me (although not unprecedented) rolleyes.gif

AYE, VERY GOOD TRUMPET-do keep up -the first thread was moved apparently without trace to a MORE APPROPRIATE FORUM laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Well over 4,000 views-almost 250 posts on this -the original forum Trumpet.

Do you play petanque?
mortonjag 2008-06-17 10:10:33
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 17 2008, 10:00 AM) [snapback]461339[/snapback]
yeah i know, its pretty unbelievable isnt it? i suppose my mate could have just went to the office and handed it in on a matchday, but at the end of the day he was honest and did do his bit by contacting the club about it - they failed to follow it through. to be fair to him, he only gave it out to people who would never have come along and paid anyway - i used it to take my girlfriend a few times, and he used it to take his along a few times too, that was about it (so at least the club did get a wee bit of extra money from the chips and capri sun that the burds bought lol).

It is seriously worrying though - i mean, season ticket sales are one of the clubs biggest sources of income, and from this and a few of the other examples given above, it would seem that they are throwing away potentially £000's a year simply from poor administration.



After your discovery yesterday, folk are still fighting furiously to prove that AD is still on the Board.

If he is-and more specifically, if he HAS BEEN since January, it's really quite sad, because everything at Cappielow today is reading 'deja vu'. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-17 10:20:13
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 17 2008, 10:08 AM) [snapback]461343[/snapback]
I would hold you both in contempt for this pi$h. As the old saying goes, "it is a battle of wits between two unarmed opponents." tongue.gif

As an older saying goes-get tae f*ck!
mortonjag 2008-06-17 11:30:50
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 17 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]461361[/snapback]
i would have thought it more appropriate for our mutual friend to have replied - forget to change logins again laugh.gif rolleyes.gif wink.gif

Much ado about nuffin' Neddy.
mortonjag 2008-06-17 11:40:23
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 17 2008, 10:54 AM) [snapback]461364[/snapback]
Nick again I would ask or your expertise on this subject .

Should the club be aware they are losing monies whether it is from deception or incompetance ?
Should there be safeguards in place like ensuring all those coming through with season tickets are making payments . All season tickets are numbered so could the club not vet those coming through the turnstile.

You are well aware of the losses at the club and you have said that you understand about keeping admin costs down but at the same time if it is causing for oversights such as this then the policy isin't working .

The last thing the club need at the time of a share issue is evidence of bad practice .

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BAD PRACTICE-how very DARE you even HINT that not all is well within a respectable club run by respectable people for a respectable community for a whacking respectable loss.

Indeed how VERY, VERY dare you. Next you'll be suggesting that the club alienates potential benefactors when it's well know that the club welcomes all new ideas with a openness unprecedented in Scottish Football.

Be thoroughly ashamed of yourself.

Don't you realise that all accountants and all clients of accountants are respectable, and are exceedingly good at keeping secrets! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-17 11:45:13
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 17 2008, 11:05 AM) [snapback]461369[/snapback]
translation

CHECK ME OUT EVERYBODY I'M GIVING MONEY TO CHARITY LOOK AT ME LOOK AT MEEEEEEEEEE!

tosser.

It's not a charity Narcissus-it's OUR football club, but you'd rather buy a season ticket for the midden.


BAWBAG-no I exaggerate-sperm of bawbag. tongue.gif

BTW how's the nappy changing progressing?
mortonjag 2008-06-17 11:57:16
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 17 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]461357[/snapback]
I can't be bothered to be honest getting into a slanging match with you. When I read the above though, the immediate thought that passes through my head concerns pots and kettles. Try looking in the mirror when you read that response which is typically dismissive of any other point of view.

As for fawning over Douglas Rae, I hardly know the man and have only spoken to him on a couple of occasions. I do know several people who have worked for him who have different opinions of him from you. Yours may be right but all I am pointing out is that I, in common with most posters on here, including a number of highly articulate and obviously intelligent guys, am not privy to your 'dirt'. I do know though what is happening with the share issue but I can't tell you because I can't compromise my sources and anyway, I would worry about your ability to keep it CONFIDENTIAL.

Unfortunately, like you I no longer have the mail that passed between us but as I recall it was about helping the club keep the website more up to date and also offering to share our business experience in terms of tackling certain projects for the club which they otherwise seem to have difficulty doing. An example might have been devising systems to tackle the matters brought out in the recent discussion about security issues in the sale of season tickets.

Morton are my club and I have a deep affection for them as would I guess 99% of posters on here. The difference between you and I is that I am interested in solutions whereas you seem to be hell bent on the destruction of the present board. You might be right! How do I know??

The difference between you and ME is my absence of blinkers.

I find the red highlighted words offensive and inappropriate from a fellow professional, who 'doesn't want to get into a slanging match' rolleyes.gif -perhaps you will see fit to retract them.

You may 'phone my brother if you want his version of our previous pm's since your memory seems as bad if not worse than mine. You know who and where he is, and he's fully ten years younger than your good self.

What share issue are you talking about by the way, and are you claiming to know more about it that those who attended the recent EGM (IF this is about GMFC)?
mortonjag 2008-06-17 12:36:01
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jun 17 2008, 12:28 PM) [snapback]461392[/snapback]
This is really becoming rather dull and unedifying.

May I recommend a nice shiny Mac Red?
mortonjag 2008-06-17 12:44:44
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 17 2008, 12:03 PM) [snapback]461383[/snapback]
if you think you are giving money to the club, i'd suggest you read the details of andy's proposals again.

BTW i'm not sure what you mean. is there progression involved in changing nappies?

To answer your question-of course there is-you will learn.

I am well away of the details of Andy's proposals-all of which are intended to help the club in a global sense. If Andy or any other person without an agenda asks me to take my money back I'll happily do that. Andy has indicated to me that he's pleased with the gesture, and that'll do me fine thanks. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-17 13:36:18
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 17 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]461405[/snapback]
Some of our posters on this very thread accuse Mortonjag of arrogance and self aggrandisement.

Mortonjag regards THEIR demeanour as disrespectful, ill judged, ignorant, presumptuous, offensive, self obsessed, odious, and arrogant in the extreme.

None of those gentlemen can hold a cande to Mortonjag in the experience, wisdom, and CONFIDENTIALITY stakes.


I do know though what is happening with the share issue but I can't tell you because I can't compromise my sources and anyway, I would worry about your ability to keep it CONFIDENTIAL.

First quote is from you. Second was from my response. As I understand your stance, it is OK for you to sling any offensive accusation you like at anyone on this board but take mortal offence when it happens in reverse.

I'm not blinkered. Cynical would be a better word and that comes from years of seeing corporate disasters. I have not accused you of being wrong but merely pointed out that my perspective is of an organisation running on a shoestring and making mistakes. In that they mirror 85% of British companies.

I will repeat for the last time - I am not privy to the apparent damming facts that you have I have to make my judgements based on the information in my possession which leads me to maybe not an entirely different conclusion from you, just one in which the degree of culpability is different.

As far as the share issue goes, I do have some reliable information but, like you, I am not prepared to post it on a public message board or otherwise compromise confidentiality.



You again are doing yourself absolutely no credit. My 'offensive accusation' was specifically directed at 'some of our posters'. You accused a fellow professional (from a profession where confidentiality is an absolute credo at all times) of being untrustworthy in that respect, and worse, you did it for no other reason than that you dislike what I say and the way I say it. Silly comments like 'are you a drinker' are made for the same reason.

In that respect, and in my opinion, you lowered yourself to the level of those very few posters to whom I alluded, and I suggested that you retract your statement, if only to prove that you can admit an error of judgement.

The issue on debate is the running of Greenock Morton, and I have been entrusted with information from others -'my dirt' -as you choose to describe it. Minus that information, your persistent defence of 'the club', albeit commendable in principle, IS blinkered.

I'm not any more interested in your years of seeing corporate disasters than you are in my helping countless real live people cope with terminal illness, and the rest of the posters probably don't give a fig about either. Indeed they are sick to the back teeth of two elderly professional eejits trying to knock lumps out of each other, but Mortonjag is a stubborn old c*nt when it comes to being WANTONLY ATTACKED.

You did not answer my question about the share issue. Are you privy to more information than those at the EGM, and if so, may I be permitted to allude to that privileged and confidential information as 'your dirt'? Why, indeed, do you patently resent my privileged information, while seemingly flaunting your own?

Finally, if you are going to highlight words in big red letters, I'll try to treat you gently by confirming that I have no knowledge of the devious diversions of Scottish Water. smile.gif

mortonjag 2008-06-17 14:04:59
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 17 2008, 01:39 PM) [snapback]461425[/snapback]
Could you two meet up, f*** each other senseless, cradle each other in your arms then go your separate ways?

May lead to the end of this!

I'm free.
mortonjag 2008-06-17 14:10:47
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 17 2008, 12:22 PM) [snapback]461390[/snapback]
Agreed, I should get my finger out and go else where, but its getting out that comfort zone.

I disagree that moaning gets you nowt, I bet something will happen, cos I moan real good. Sitting back and doing nothing gets you no where.

If you don't ask you don't get.

QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 17 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]461411[/snapback]
Therein lies the rub! You have to find a service that's not already being provided or provided well.

I have sometimes thought about provision of handyman services by locating people in all sorts of trades to do small jobs for households or businesses. I've got a cracked bathroom sink and have bought a replacement but can I find a plumber to fit it??? Likewise if you want joiner or electrical work done its really hard to find someone to do small jobs. If you had a firm sat in the middle with a panel of tradesmen prepared to work evenings etc. for some extra dosh and you take a share of the proceeds of each referred job??? Throw into to that mix a couple of computer geeks to fix peoples IT problems, cleaners, people prepared to take ironing jobs etc, etc then put a leaflet through every door in Largs for starters

Retired doctors are sometimes dab hands at fitting sinks-complete kitchens even!
mortonjag 2008-06-17 14:20:38
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 17 2008, 01:59 PM) [snapback]461434[/snapback]
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eh,..no. Quite the opposite in fact . I was being sarcastic.


[codebox]Look at me everyone !!! I'm donating money!![/codebox]

I'll make my own donations thanks, without shouting about it and I'll chose when and who I donate to.
I don't feel the need to prove anything. Perhaps you do.

I suspect you may be a more humble and poorer person than Mortonjag.

You certainly appear to feel the need to attack Mortonjag at every opportunity-Mortonjag doesn't mind if that saves the Health Service money, and wouldn't dream of drawing attention to it in a self aggrandising manner..
mortonjag 2008-06-17 15:09:22
QUOTE(stubaws @ Jun 17 2008, 02:22 PM) [snapback]461451[/snapback]
TiD,

as a lot of people have said, jag raises some good points. however, the minute someone so much as questions his point of view or puts their own - different - point of view across, he's all over them like a fat kid on a cheeseburger. if he cant take his point of view being questioned, fine i aint got much of a problem with that other than the fact he's old enough to realise not everyone will always agree with him. what i do have a problem with is how he will constantly refer to his 'evidence' that only he and a select few are privy to and mock/ridicule/lambast anyone who hasn't seen this 'evidence' for believing things that contradict anything in his 'evidence' of malpractice.

i for one dont have much interest in this 'evidence' being broadcast over this board or anywhere else. iv said before iv never been a fan of dougie rae's and anyone looking in at the club without blue and white tinted glasses can see that there are many problems within it. if jag has 'evidence' of any of this, i doubt its much more incriminating than what i and no doubt many others imagine to be wrong at the club.

despite all this and my own thoughts on the matter, i find his repeated attacks on pretty much every thread absolutely tedious. prime example being last week with a thread on davie irons being on a radio programme that descended into some slanging match about dougie/shoogly/toothrotter/alastair donald/cappie the cat....(delete as appropriate). i'll reiterate, he does make some valid arguments, its the way he makes himself out to be so much better than anyone else and pleads innocence everytime one of his ridiculous arguments hijacks a completely unrelated thread that pisses so many people off.

you have your 'evidence' mj, good for you. is it too much to allow other people to discuss their views on a public messageboard without ridiculing them or completely twisting the subject round to the chairman and his faults?

Stu-please get one thing straight-I DON'T deny anybody the right to voice an opinion, and I never attack anybody who is capable of doing so in a civilised and non confrontational manner.

Your objections to what I post, and how often I post, and the manner in which I post it are legitimate. They are also merely your opinion.

I'll give you an example of why Mortonjag so often 'attacks'-it's in your last paragraph, and the highlighted red part.

If you had just said 'You have your evidence MJ' that would have been perfectly acceptable. 'Good for you' whether intended or not, sounds derisory and invites back biting, and it's an example of what happens ALL THE TIME.

Why don't you look carefully at some of the threads, and you'll see what I mean.

One final point-I don't make myself out to be much better than others, though I often take the piss with daft comments about Mortonjag not making mistakes etc., etc.

The fact is Stu, that when it comes to expression in English, I AM well ahead of the pack. That does not make me better than them, but it sure gets on their tits more than it should! wink.gif wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 05:48:51 SHOOGLY I'm led to believe by his asinine friend IS A fine example of being HUNg like a donkey.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 05:57:03
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 17 2008, 02:59 PM) [snapback]461470[/snapback]
It disappoints me that we have a shoot the messenger approach to revealing things of this nature .
If someone had told me that they were getting away with payments for season tickets I'd have raised it in the same way as yourself .
I would urge anyone who knows of any ways in which the club is losing out on money to come foward . Lets get everything out in the open in the hope that those incharge will rectify all past mistakes and the club at least will be on a better footing .

Would that mean me revealing all my 's***' to Tonsilitis and all the other jealous wee fuds who keep having a go? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 06:08:45
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jun 16 2008, 10:44 PM) [snapback]461211[/snapback]
An inept, unprofessional, incompetent shambles is what it is.



I've been thinking about this-although Rae is thicker skinned than a psoriatic pachyderm he knows everything that's being said on this pubic massage board.


It's come to me with complete clarity that Alistair Donald is a 'plant', who popped down to Inverclyde on one brief occasion for a Tilly interview, just to do his old Hun pal Crawford a favour.

Now that old fox thinks he can bluster away to his heart's content and folk will think 'all's well because there's yon rich c*nt in the background so it cannae go pear shaped again'.

BTW said fox was 77 at the weekend

77 and still going strong-grudgingly I must say-Many happy returns ya auld miser.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 06:14:51
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 18 2008, 06:11 AM) [snapback]461737[/snapback]
Isn't Crawford a Cellic fan? blink.gif


Very possibly, as the Raes seem to keep everone guessing laugh.gif , though last I heard the good son of Steptoe had access to a corporate box at the castle.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 06:30:27
QUOTE(CJTon @ Jun 17 2008, 02:41 PM) [snapback]461462[/snapback]
Has anyone ever heard of the concept of non-exec directors before? That is the type of role I believe Alistair Donald has been asked to perform by the Chairman. ie to bring a perspective from the outside in relation to various parts of the business that is Greenock Morton FC and where improvements can be made. His vast previous experience in the business world will have been a major factor in him being asked to perform this advisory role.

I am having a laugh at all the various threads and conspiracy theories on this subject. I do not know whether AD wishes to invest any part of his wealth in the club and if I did know I would not divulge such information but I can confirm he does exist and has attended quite a number of games last season (more than originally planned I am sure) and was as nervous as the rest of us on the last day of the season up at Firhill.

Not quite sure why some people like to turn something positive into a negative.

I for one look forward to the new season and the positive factor of the new management team although am aware that a tough season will ensue with a lot of good teams in this division.

Aye-very good Shoogly-and less stilited than your usual crap.

QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Jun 17 2008, 04:58 PM) [snapback]461533[/snapback]
Alistair Donald has been purported to be a director of Morton F.C. from all quarters.

I was actually quite taken aback at the non-appearances of Douglas and Crawford Rae at the egm as well as not even an apology from Mr Donald re his non-attendance, and it's now even more confusing with Mr Donald NOT being listed at Companies House as being a director of Morton F.C. at any time whatsoever.

To avoid any confusion maybe the 'tele' should follow up on the e.g.m. new stand story, speak to both Mr Rae (senior) and Mr Donald to get any sort of update/progress, and clarify Mr Donald's actual position at the club (if any) 'cause I for one am totally confused by the whole issue.

It's a valid point-they are the ones who were used as pawns in the scam in the first place-they have a duty to update us.

QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 17 2008, 05:25 PM) [snapback]461538[/snapback]
Yeah they do.

A Non-Executive Director, does not have any formal delegated authority although the title carries with it the
ostensible authority of a Director recognised by law.

He can't act on behalf of the company (club) but his role is to provide a creative contribution to the board by providing objective criticism.

They are meant to bring to the board some or all of the following:-
independence
impartiality
wide experience
special knowledge
personal qualities

No mention of a huge wad of readies to dish out on player's contracts. The fact that he is not mentioned on Companies House web site could simply be a admin error on GMFC's behalf and not something of great importance.


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QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 17 2008, 05:44 PM) [snapback]461547[/snapback]
Should someone not contact the club to make them aware of this oversight .


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QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 17 2008, 05:54 PM) [snapback]461553[/snapback]
01475 723571 ask for Gillian. wink.gif

0141 634 2679 and ask for Heidi-petite non smoker who doesn't smell of Fudgy Wudgy.

QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jun 17 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]461573[/snapback]
why not? its a morton message board to discuss morton topics and sometimes you do not think at the moment, it takes time for things to sink in and get some clarity.. or none in this matter.


It's also a good place to beat your hidden agendas to death and bore everyone else in the process! wink.gif


QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jun 17 2008, 08:09 PM) [snapback]461602[/snapback]
Where is the old duffer tonight anyway, probably suffering from repetitive strain injury.

Mortonjag was at Church Choir practice-is that all right with you-oh and LESS of the 'duffer'.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 06:37:33
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 18 2008, 06:16 AM) [snapback]461739[/snapback]
You may well be correct but I'm just thinking of Dougie's references to the green side of Glasgow. tongue.gif

Apparently Steptoe and son do a wee Cabaret routine when they've had a couple of Baileys.

The boy gets oot the flute and does a wee 'Sash mia Farrow wore' while the old shooglemeister rocks rhythmically in the background doing 'drums' on his rosary.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 06:41:57
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 17 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]461539[/snapback]
Really strange you should post this as I have one just now and it's doing my nut in. I buy Zovirax and it works well. Only problem is it is expensive. I bought a box for £5 odd the other day and opened it up to find a tiny 2g tube.

I also know where you are coming from with it always appearing at the wrong times. My Uni graduation picture was ruined by a cracker big cold sore on my lip. sad.gif

Just think-if you were male it could have been the tip of your willie.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 06:52:45
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 18 2008, 01:03 AM) [snapback]461699[/snapback]
More like two bald men fighting over a comb.....

Shame on you McArthur-alopecia is an illness, and baldy c*nts are allowed to have feelings-AND memories.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 06:56:23
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jun 17 2008, 11:10 PM) [snapback]461668[/snapback]
Guys, let's face it - whether the old fud knows anything or not, he ain't saying and he ain't likely to. And he's gonna keep on hijacking threads with irrelevancies, being offensive to those who dare to disagree with his guff and generally getting on the nipples of almost all of us - as long as we let him.

BUT - there is a solution at hand - quite literally. Take his oft-tendered advice, and use the "huff button" to ignore him and all of his effluence. I did this almost a week ago, and I can now surf this site in an almost Zen-like state of tranquility. Any time I scroll over one of his blusterings, all I see in the box is " You have chosen to ignore all posts from: mortonjag. " and I pass on over that little wordy bridge, oblivious to the stirrings of the pondlife below me. The board's become one of life's wee minor pleasures again instead of being a chore to read.

Think of it - if all, or most, of those who are sick to the back molars of either the content or the sheer volume that spews from his keyboard were to put him on "ignore" he wouldn't get the attention or the reaction that he clearly thrives upon. Those who choose not to "ignore" him could keep him occupied as a public service for the rest of us. And if he ever DOES reveal the contents of his "top-secret dossier" we'll all know soon enough from other sources. Win-win all the way for all except buggerlugs himself. It's the "Domestos" button - kills 99% of all known twerps.

Give it a try - you'll be glad you did.
PS- One of the great things is that, even if he takes a poke at me for this, I won't give a second-hand fart BECAUSE I WON'T EVEN KNOW...... DAMN, life is good!!! laugh.gif



When self important 'up ain erse fuds' have posted this kind of keech before, Mortonjag's reply has inevitably been quoted. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 07:13:37 Not had any major fall outs with anyone else since me and mortonjag were at war. That was enough of a cyber battle to last a lifetime.
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That was just a wee misunderstanding, and you were very gracious in defeat! laugh.gif





QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 18 2008, 01:45 AM) [snapback]461720[/snapback]
I always thought Toby was the entertainment at some games. I paid £12 plus a tenner bus fare to watch a s***, shhhhiiiiit, team and there was Toby calling people a "rrrrrreptile". I love you man!



Toby hasn't met Mortonjag so he doesn't realise that Mortonjag was beside him at half time him in the lavvy at Stirling.

Poor Toby was a wee bit 'the worse o' the wear' and was fumbling for ages trying to find his weapon while chanting at the top of his voice 'time to go Jim' The biggest laugh of all was that at that point we'd being playing quite well!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 07:26:53
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 18 2008, 07:16 AM) [snapback]461748[/snapback]
I wouldn't say defeat. I was just the bigger man and backed down. tongue.gif

HA-it was well worth the money-a few folk disliked Mortonjag in those days and he didn't want more adverse publicity. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 07:33:00
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 07:17 AM) [snapback]461749[/snapback]
I'd like to see that.

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The tickets cost an arm and a leg, so I'd go for payment by direct debit.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 07:41:58 We have no full backs, one goalkeeper, and no wingers. Our central defence and midfield have been beefed up, but the money's not there-especially if we fail to offload a couple of contracted players.

It's not just about signing-a contract has to be arranged and wages paid. In that respect, yet another striker would be complete MADNESS.

If Spoonsy is fit and 'up for it' he'll get goals-mark my words, and the same applies to LEAFY once they sort out the supply problem. Football's a funny game-maybe Jamie will take a tumble to himself and start knocking in a few as well.

Anyway, the point is that you could have your squad composed entirely of strikers-that would surely guarantee about 371 goals every season! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 07:54:12
QUOTE(Russells Muscles @ Jun 18 2008, 07:36 AM) [snapback]461752[/snapback]
Mortonjag wink.gif

Get off this f*cking board you weasel-you have a bloody cheek to think you can resurface as Russell's Muscles.

You are a coward, a cheat, and a creep, and if I ever find out who you are I'll f*cking prosecute you if Rae refuses to deal with you.

mortonjag 2008-06-18 07:58:33
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 07:45 AM) [snapback]461754[/snapback]
The chief executive of Royal Dutch/Shell, Jeroen van der Veer, a man who has forgotten more about oil than a New York commodities trader has ever learned, gave his view of peak oil.

In an email to staff, he said “easily accessible supplies of oil and gas will no longer keep up with demandâ€. Renewables will become more important as sources of energy, as will nuclear power, he said.

Van der Veer believes the future would hold one of two possible scenarios. The first, he dubbed “scrambleâ€. The second, he called “blueprintsâ€.

Scramble would see individual countries rush to secure their own supplies, creating a dangerous situation of winners and losers.

Blueprints would involve international political cooperation leading to harmonisation of standards, taxes, and emissions trading.

Proposals for high-powered talks in Saudi Arabia show that some countries are keen on the “blueprint†proposal of international cooperation.

But, before that happens it’s a fair bet that the countries in greatest need of energy will scramble to secure their own future supplies with China leading the stampede.



If Bawheid's record to date is anything to go on, you can forget him bothering to look beyond his own expected lifespan. He doesn't even have a wife and family to think about, 'cos sure as fate Moira the housekeeper of convenience in chubby chops chapel house will predecease the pragmatic ponce.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 08:19:31
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 07:53 AM) [snapback]461755[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

you are showing your age,mate.

Have you seen any medical student exam papers in recent years ?

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Too true Newt-sometimes I could greet-I really could.

I mean no harm to wee Puggs in particular, (even if he lost all credibility with me recently with his 'I don't mind the banter but....' statement), however, I do find it crassly incongruous that folk feel entitled to boast of 'upper second' Honours degrees, when they cannot construct a sentence in their native language, let alone spell the most rudimentary of words.

It was no comfort to me to discover yesterday the ironic truth that Tonsilitis, our VASTLY experienced insolvency practitioner who has obviously spent his whole life with his head buried in books, has failed to grasp the basics of spelling.

I'm so glad I took a degree in English prior to my medical studies. It has put me light years ahead of those common 5/8ths, or is that just a function of my massive intellect?


mortonjag 2008-06-18 08:27:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 08:22 AM) [snapback]461764[/snapback]
baldy c*nts are allowed to have feelings-AND memories.
and if they are female they can save lots on depilation.

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They are by definition female-no need for the conditional preposition Newt.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 08:31:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 08:25 AM) [snapback]461765[/snapback]
I mean no harm to wee Puggs in particular, (even if he lost all credibility with me recently with his 'I don't mind the banter but....' statement), however, I do find it crassly incongruous that folk feel entitled to boast of 'upper second' Honours degrees, when they cannot construct a sentence in their native language, let alone spell the most rudimentary of words.
Be thankful that you do not live in the United States nor Australia.

Where children graduate from primary or elementary school.

And no one can define matriculation.

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Over here it's called w*nking.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 08:34:40
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 08:05 AM) [snapback]461759[/snapback]
I look forward to a more serious answer from Col.

However, 8/10 for alliteration.

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I suspect Spurtle's sloped off since he seems to have ceased severing over his status symbol.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 08:37:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 08:13 AM) [snapback]461761[/snapback]
Four residents at a Victorian nursing home were taken to hospital after caustic soda was mistakenly sprinkled on their pancakes, it was revealed on Wednesday.

Owen Stephens, chief executive of the Casterton Memorial Hospital in south-western Victoria, said three women and a man were admitted to the hospital on June 4 after falling ill.

He said one of the patients from Edgarley Home left the same day, while two others were kept overnight for observation and the fourth victim stayed another day.

"My indication on discussion with the home was that it was an accident," Mr Stephens told AAP.

"It was nothing of a malicious nature."

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Don't worry Newt, the regulations over here are fairly strict those days.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 08:45:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 08:35 AM) [snapback]461770[/snapback]
to wink ?

to matriculate ?

... sorry, I'm lost.

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OH-MATRICULATE-I thought you said masturbate-I must have been temporarily blinded, though masturbation linked to ejaculation leads to matriculation.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 08:51:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 08:33 AM) [snapback]461768[/snapback]
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You have lived in Newlands for too long.

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I have a serious question for you and any other poster who is willing to treat it with due thought.

Is a shaven c*nt bald? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 08:54:42
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jun 18 2008, 08:43 AM) [snapback]461772[/snapback]
Kelly Dalglish has got a big fat arse so would be to similar to players like Templeman to succeed.

Andy Ritchie had a nice round sticky oot erse.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 09:12:59
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 18 2008, 08:56 AM) [snapback]461778[/snapback]
GibbyTON can have the comb, I don't want it anymore.

Two baldy round headed men can put their heads together and make an arse of themselves!


I wish I had the pic.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 09:45:57
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 18 2008, 09:44 AM) [snapback]461786[/snapback]
hilarious.

I'm glad you found it funny.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 09:46:48
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 18 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]461785[/snapback]
sorry i missed it. had an appointment with a chap who was demonstrating nappies and he didn't even show.

Hilarious
mortonjag 2008-06-18 09:57:09
I always read your posts and thought, 'silly wee boy', but after that you have confirmed your nothing less than a complete arsehole blink.gif
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Piehole is far from being a 'silly wee boy'. With unparalleled self control, rare patience, and no lack of virtue, he has preserved his virginity in the commendable belief that the 'right person is just around the corner'.

He is an avid follower of Santa Claus, Dougas Rae, and The Tooth Fairy, that ultimate allegiance possibly giving a clue to his true disposition in life.



mortonjag 2008-06-18 09:59:02
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 18 2008, 09:47 AM) [snapback]461789[/snapback]
i didn't.

I knew.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:02:30
QUOTE(Russells Muscles @ Jun 18 2008, 09:48 AM) [snapback]461790[/snapback]
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Right creep-the longer you stay 'live' on here the more chance the Mods will have of identifying you to me. The only reason you got off the hook last time was the multiple use of your ISP. You published my private information on this pubic massage board from confidential club records, and I was content to see the back of you. MODS PLEASE NOTE.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:11:27
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 18 2008, 10:02 AM) [snapback]461797[/snapback]
If we are playing 3 at the the back, then we won't need wingers or fullbacks blink.gif We will have wingbacks rolleyes.gif

Another striker gives us options as last years strike force left alot to be desired at times. So seeking another striker to enhance what we already have is not madness

Wing backs are only OK if they can do a full back's job, and in any case it's CRAZY beyond belief that any club should be entering a new season having to rigidly stick to 'three at the back'.

Blackboard football's just that Spurtle-wake up and smell the coffee. If 'they' have decent wingers we need decent full backs, and if we are going to get decent crosses into the box we need wingers ( Jimbo and Kev are neither wingers nor full backs-merely vestiges of JM's 'Ah huvny a clue' policy which still satisfied 75% of posters less than a year ago.)

Please let's not be conned and f*cked about again this time-the squad needs more shape and more options-a blind man can see that-NOT MORE F*CKING STRIKERS.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:14:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]461798[/snapback]
whit ?

caustic soda only on Fridays ?

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Less Victorian.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:16:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 10:06 AM) [snapback]461799[/snapback]
didnae be daft.

It ain't even waxed.

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May a bald c*nt be shaven?
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:17:51
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]461800[/snapback]
OH-MATRICULATE-I thought you said masturbate.

Gidday mortonjag,

when you and I and Alibi and possibly Teacher Tom and Tonsilitis were young, we all had a matriculation year.

Thankfully, it wasn't the other.

I, for one, would have failed miserably.

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Masturbation has been the watchword in the Cappielow Board room for many years.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:19:02
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 18 2008, 10:00 AM) [snapback]461795[/snapback]
Max Factor is a rogue.

Good to see that they are the only ones.



I much prefer to stick to simple soap and stuff.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:22:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 10:15 AM) [snapback]461803[/snapback]
If one only wants standing room, may one use a standing order ?

Or is it a SPL event with compulsory seating ?

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It's the Annual Cabaret held in the Gamble Halls every year to celebrate Feart Matilda's birthday.

Somebody told me the tickets were dear.

I just made the rest up.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:23:35
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 18 2008, 10:20 AM) [snapback]461807[/snapback]
mentaljag goes greeting to mods shocker

Still blocking pm's?
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:27:45
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 18 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]461810[/snapback]
You know, pointing out spelling and grammar flaws on an internet message board is a bit like pointing out how people pronounce words differently in real life.

It will bug some people beyond belief, but the majority will really not give two flying fecks!

If it helps you I can, on occasion, string together a decent sentence or two with no mistakes. I'll openly admit grammar is not my strongest point (hence why I done accounts and not...oh I don't know...English at university).

And to be fair I rarely spell words wrong on here, that is the beauty of having a spell checker built into my browser wink.gif

Spell checkers are only as good as those who know how to use them----


or wait--is this THE ULTIMATE wind up? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:30:50
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 18 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]461816[/snapback]
despite what this dullard thinks, i really did have an appointment with a chap from a nappy company who didn't show.

how was the gig? did you get a good turn out?

No need to belittle yourself-maybe the nappy chappy thought you were a sh!t too far.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:34:44
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 18 2008, 10:32 AM) [snapback]461818[/snapback]
aye. i'm not interested in joining any cliques or hearing any fish-wifie rumours.

I was meaning PM's from innocent wee lassies.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:46:33
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 18 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]461820[/snapback]
Again, those you have pointed out would be more grammar areas, something I have said I am poor with.

Sorry I don't reach your level of acceptance good sir but I am quite happen with my station in life smile.gif



I see young man. Will we be seeing the end of your own smart arsed take-offs (takes-off, in my day) of posters who haven't quite reached your limited level of intelligence?

It's all about fair play-don't joust with the Monkey and Fing, and then go posting elsewhere that you can't stand their Daddy.

They don't like that sort of two faced stuff-ESPECIALLY Fing.

I have no problem at all with your ignorance-we all suffer from it to a greater or lesser degree. I just object to what I see as a dilution of our Educational standards whereby a University Degree those days means not very much. I object far more to Oxbridge c*nts flaunting their bits of paper than to those from, say, Pishley Uni. The former should know better.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:49:31
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 18 2008, 10:40 AM) [snapback]461824[/snapback]
innocent wee lassies and pompous arseholes both.

I understand but you are missing mine too.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:51:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]461822[/snapback]
Feart Matilda's birthday.
I have details going back to 1863.

But, is she older than that ?

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Mr McArthur answers such questions better than me, but I'd opine, 'Yes-yes'.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:52:16
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 18 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]461812[/snapback]
my factor isn't too bad - i've asked them four times now to cost the painting of my close, the first time back in 2004, and when i phoned the other day to see how this enormous project was coming along, it turned out that they already had one quote and were waiting for another two. superb.

fascinating
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:52:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]461814[/snapback]
May or can ?

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yes
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:57:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]461809[/snapback]
Less Victorian ?

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Our nursing homes in Victoria are all more or less.

For example ...

We offer a *FREE Home delivery service in the Melbourne Metropolitan area and we also deliver throughout Victoria.
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http://www.premiumadultcare.com.au/shop/

I'd rather drive Moby around to the Chemist's thanks-plus I've negotiated a brilliant bulk discount deal on my condoms, provided I buy the incontinence knickers on Mondays-I think he must get a run on them later in the week.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:59:11
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 18 2008, 10:53 AM) [snapback]461834[/snapback]
To my mind this may be on the edge of cyber bullying? Nacho is a good example of a young man who is often quite eloquent in his use of language: even if sometimes it is bordering on the edge of sectarianism. wink.gif

Nach0 is a fud
mortonjag 2008-06-18 11:02:28
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 18 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]461839[/snapback]
Christ almighty...last time I put out a tongue-in-cheek thread then I guess laugh.gif

...and I never went to Pishley university. Caley punter wink.gif

I was well aware aware that you attended the 'Poly' young man. A wee parrot told me.

May I also back out of every offensive post-sparse though they be- by pleading retrospective 'tongue in cheek'.

Fing awaits your answer with loaded nailgun.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 11:06:32
QUOTE(suda @ Jun 17 2008, 01:25 PM) [snapback]461422[/snapback]
would that be between your butt cheeks?


Only sometimes
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jun 17 2008, 07:07 PM) [snapback]461578[/snapback]
Why don't we just give MJ his own sub-forum on condition he leaves the two main forums alone?

Everyone's a winner, surely? wink.gif

It's not a new idea-3/10 for you

QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 18 2008, 10:54 AM) [snapback]461837[/snapback]
Get your tongue out MJ's bangle for one moment and smell the coffee.

Hmm unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 11:08:52
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 18 2008, 10:56 AM) [snapback]461840[/snapback]
Away and rattle your beads biggrin.gif

Is Nach0 a Tim?
mortonjag 2008-06-18 11:11:17
QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Jun 18 2008, 10:42 AM) [snapback]461825[/snapback]
We're playing three at the back beacuse we want to, not because we're being forced to. We have plently of talented midfielders why should we leave one on the bench to stick another player in defense? Jim and Kev aren't the best "wing backs" but their job has the covering of Paartallu who will provide the defense the sufficient cover. WE DON'T NEED FULL BACKS!

Not according to Davie Irons, but he's just skint Shoogly's latest manager.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 11:17:59
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 18 2008, 11:03 AM) [snapback]461853[/snapback]
In fact we have McGuffie who regularly played right back for Gretna. Walker has played well at left back for us previously so its not beyond us to play 4-4-2 if required.

The urgent signing we need is a goalkeeper. After that I would also look for a striker as we only have three and that's a bit thin for comfort.

If we do major on playing three at the back, if we sign fullbacks, where exactly are they going to play? Likewise, do wingers exist in the modern game? Certainly not in the mould of Jimmy Johnstone or Willie Henderson or our own Jimmy Wilson!

I would agree with Mortonjag about fullbacks if we were going to play 4-4-2 but its clear thats not what the manager is thinking and he is recruiting players to fit his system, not what fans think the system should be. If we are playing 3-5-2 or some variation on that then if Innes is indeed coming, then the priority should be another striker.

We could, and probably will debate this till the new season starts. I find it sad that we are in such a straitened position that DI only weeks ago made comments about full backs, and quality players in the belief that he could make that happen.

I fully expect nerd Nach0 on shortly to bullet point ten totally differing definitions of 'quality', but I just took it to mean of a significantly better quality than what we have, or, recognised generally in first division circles as being 'quality'.

The truth is Shoogly's skint, Alistair Donald's the tooth fairy, and Davie Irons will be sickened off in no time.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 11:21:03
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 11:14 AM) [snapback]461860[/snapback]
He doesn't look like a Tim to me.

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Is that really nach0-I had envisaged something much less complete
mortonjag 2008-06-18 11:29:10
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 18 2008, 11:21 AM) [snapback]461865[/snapback]
I prefer the 3 at the back system. It looks as if that is what our management team also prefer. There is a limited budget for players, not just here but all through the league.
I take it DI & DC decided what system they wanted to go for and have gone for players to fit the system. So far we have brought in a good standard of player. Innes would be an imense signing if true.

A goalkeeper and a striker would set the right balance to our existing squad going on the system we seem to be going with.
Plus we have the players to change the system we will be playing, as Tonsilitis pointed out.

FFS-I want to see some attractive attacking football-OK don't use the term winger if it confuses-we need guys who can put crosses over from wide positions having opened up the defence-WE AIN'T GOT THEM.

Let's not use the term full back either-we need guys who can deal with tricky guys who can put crosses over from wide positions having opened up the defence-WE AIN'T GOT THEM.

We DO have strikers-three of them (probably ten if you accept the modern definition, so WHY WASTE LIMITED MONEY ON MORE?

Everybody seems to have been conned by JM's 'utility player' squads-I'm not interested in who 'can' play quite well out of natural position-get the f*cking players we need.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 11:42:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 11:31 AM) [snapback]461871[/snapback]
I think this is his brother.

Bloody hell Newt it's a small world-that guy owns our local take away.

Much0king-they call him, though his real name's Fred Grimes.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 11:44:32
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 18 2008, 10:54 AM) [snapback]461836[/snapback]
what do you think of your factor, quack?

see, i just gave you an opportunity to remind everyone of your wealth and that you live in a mansion in the clouds. fill yer boots, walter.

Hacking and Paterson are no better than the rest.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 11:46:16
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 18 2008, 11:23 AM) [snapback]461868[/snapback]
Whereas you yourself leap well over the edge with gay abandon.

Tim and Hun are not sectarian words in Glasgow.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 11:54:45
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]461848[/snapback]
a brilliant bulk discount deal on my condoms
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what a f***ing waste!

or is that a waste of f***ing ?

PLEASE stop using them ASAP, mortonjag ... the world needs more of your offspring.

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I don't use them nearly as often as I'd like Newt (the boys don't have so much time those days anyway), so I leave a couple of packets in strategic 'hidden' places all round the house-in the glove compartment, and so on, and let them innocently fall out of my pocket in restaurants, the bookies, the Church (C of S-I should hasten to add), etc. I don't want folk realising I'm getting past it.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 11:57:04
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 18 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]461879[/snapback]
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EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED'Skin deep'!
mortonjag 2008-06-18 11:58:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]461882[/snapback]
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oops - with Nacho's brother owning your local take away, may I suggest that you give Nacho more respect.

Or don't order the pancakes.

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Nach0's a nice fud
mortonjag 2008-06-18 12:00:00
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 18 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]461844[/snapback]
I don't see anyone shooting the messenger?

Sean's bang on with his comments on Dougie saying "Bring a friend!" and "We need 4000 each week!"
Well Dougie, if you are pissing away money like this what's the point in us making the effort to drag along more victims on a Saturday? Get your own house in order first!

Is Shoogly a drinker? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 12:00:47
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 18 2008, 11:57 AM) [snapback]461886[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-06-18 12:03:55
QUOTE(Russells Muscles @ Jun 18 2008, 11:22 AM) [snapback]461867[/snapback]
My work here is done. wink.gif Off to Arran for the weekend now. smile.gif

Favourite holiday spot of the Shoogly Show-how apt-may you meet many adders.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 12:05:06
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 18 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]461893[/snapback]
These people are real rogues next to moneylenders they have never been regulated and set their own charges.

Ours decided that they are going to charge £7.50 per bill per month additional charges for late payment.

Hey! don't want to excite you guys' too much but did you know that Spanish, French and German governments regulate and cap gas/electricity charges, so are no such restrictions here. We suffer. This country is a joke. sad.gif

...and Scottish Power is Spanish!

El cheek.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 12:10:06
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 18 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]461891[/snapback]
No idea, but he has a cracker house with a nice view over the Clyde rolleyes.gif

A 'cracker house'--FFS Sean that explains everything-I've been far too hard on the old fud and he's turned to coke! huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 12:15:56
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 18 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]461898[/snapback]
blink.gif You believe in a higher being than yourself?

My higher power has seen me through more trials and tribulations than our humble posters could assimilate in one reading.

Great comfort has been obtained by those better than me in the words of Holy scripture.

Mortonjag, on the other hand, is an arrogant old fud-I never quite know whether I'm coming or going with him. Do you think I should turn him into an endearing and avuncular Grandpa figure?
mortonjag 2008-06-18 12:17:47
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 18 2008, 12:11 PM) [snapback]461899[/snapback]
Also where my inlaws bide

Do they have a shotgun licence?
mortonjag 2008-06-18 12:36:25
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 17 2008, 02:17 PM) [snapback]461447[/snapback]
Cost me £140 a few years ago, selling it for £40 (no haggling, I don't like it) as I no longer use it. It needs one new string, although it's been unused so long that it's probably best to get a full set. I'll throw in a carry bag for it as well.

If I can be arsed I'll look out the books and stuff I have - probably worth about £50 if I can find them all. Can't make any promises though as they're buried under a mountain of crap in the eaves.

PM me if ye want it.


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'Next, please'


'Erm-do you have a string for a beginner's accoustic guitar please'


'Make'


'No, I bought it from a friend'


'Manufacturer'


'No-he's actually unemployed right now'


'Who MADE the guitar'


'He didn't tell me-is that important'


YES-has it got a name somewhere on it


'China'


'Hmm-well which string do you want'


'The one that's missing-he told me to buy that one'


'NOOO-a guitar has six strings-WHICH one do you need'


'I thought they were all the same-are they not'


'Look-would it not be better if I sell you a packet of strings-that way you're certain to get the right one'


'But won't that be an awful waste of money'


'NO-you're better to put a full set of new strings on anyway'


'Ooops-I seem to remember he told me that-well I'll have a full set please-how much will that be'



'To you Sir-nothing-just f*ck off and never darken my doorway again.





mortonjag 2008-06-18 13:06:22
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 18 2008, 12:56 PM) [snapback]461909[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-06-18 13:08:38
QUOTE(Muz @ Jun 18 2008, 12:45 PM) [snapback]461906[/snapback]
Interesting to see I'm at the top of that list.

Any wonder you think this when you used to have a signature that said "Muz is a c***"?

I do think (or did) that you came across as a silly wee boy, in some cases you still do. In terms of disliking you? I'll decide when I meet you , and tell you then.

I really couldnt care less who likes me and who doesnt, that goes for on here and in life in general. If the last year in my personal life has taught me one thing, it's that. f*** anyone who doesnt like you, as it's not worth worrying about.

I've met a lot of good friends through this board (and prob will continue to do so), not really met anyone I disliked, but I'm sure by now that Mortonjag knows that I really cant stand his postings on here, but again if I met him, I would tell him that and probs have a proper chat with him, and then decide if he's as much of a bell end as he comes across as on here.

Mortonjag only chats to decent people with degrees from proper universities.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 13:10:04
QUOTE(steveoath @ Jun 18 2008, 12:45 PM) [snapback]461907[/snapback]
They're mine too, and are an utter shambles. The latest in a long line of cmplaints is that it took them the best part of a year and a half to get quotes to fix a leaking roof and leaking gable end. And they only got 1 quote!!!

Steve

Ross and Liddell were my last ones, and were arguably worse. They tried the old 'We're about to paint all the lock ups and we need the money in now'. I told them I'd pay when the decorators started. They argued , and after a few exchanges they gave up on me.

The work started almost eighteen months later, and the bill was incorporated in my next quarterly statement! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 13:20:52
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Jun 18 2008, 01:10 PM) [snapback]461914[/snapback]
mortonjga, you should stick to talking about what goes one - or what you think goes on - behind the scenes, and what Dougie Rae's next move will be. When it actually comes to football, you haven't a fcking clue by the sounds of things.

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Don't listen to the majority opinion of older posters son-listen the the Jag-you won't go far wrong! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 13:25:36
QUOTE(Patg @ Jun 18 2008, 01:15 PM) [snapback]461916[/snapback]
I would like to on behalf of my son (Scott) and myself deny the Kissing part with Toby unless anyone got photos of said deed then name youre price for pics and negatives ...

We have all at some point had fall outs on here but we have one commen bond thats our great love of Greenock Morton .

Heres to lots more kissing and cuddling Toby as we seem to do it after the Ton have done something good ...

Pat G
Ton Till I Die


If you're son's that one in embra he's a pouffe-but nobody really knows what's going to happen when they have a wee shag! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 13:31:20
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 17 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]461456[/snapback]
awwww poor wee you. sad.gif

There-you ARE a compassionate soul after all.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 13:33:29
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 18 2008, 12:24 PM) [snapback]461902[/snapback]
Thats nothing to be sniffed at laugh.gif

Dyson Douglas Faulds Rae.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 13:36:02
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 18 2008, 01:33 PM) [snapback]461925[/snapback]
Ah!! So I was right. You are not at Church worshiping a higher being but instead, you’re picking up tips on how to be God with your own wee creation.
Saying as you ask, I'd stick to the MJ you love - why change a winning formula wink.gif

Anyway, can one be both avuncular and Grandpa-like?

Oh indeed, 60 is the new 40!
mortonjag 2008-06-18 13:40:31
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jun 18 2008, 01:37 PM) [snapback]461928[/snapback]
Didn't know God posted on this board tongue.gif

God moves in a mysterious way his wonders to perform.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 13:50:49
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 18 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]461930[/snapback]
40? huh.gif I was an Uncle at 15.

Funny old world!
mortonjag 2008-06-18 13:59:24
QUOTE(Patg @ Jun 18 2008, 01:47 PM) [snapback]461932[/snapback]
Morton jag can I ask you to retract the gay statement or can the administrator remove it as In my opinion you have overstepped the mark ..

We all have a laugh and joke on hee but I see youre statement as defarmation of charecter ..

You get away with lot things on here but you will not say things about my family ...

I await youre public apology ...

Pat G
Ton Till I Die



Retracted.

Public apology made.

Am I allowed to explain that it was entirely tongue in cheek or would that detract from the purpose of your post.

Am I also allowed to go back and demand a public apology from your son for every time he has called me much worse.

Why do I suspect this is about to turn into a rammy?

Finally-what do you regard as offensive about homosexuality?

I've just spotted your p.m. and haven't time to read it right now but I can guess what's in it. I'm absolutely serious Pat-don't you f*cking come on all self righteous with me, or I will post some of the stuff I've had from Scotty boy.

If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. Right-I'm off to the dentist. Think about what I've said before you knee jerk again. Also have a look at the title of the thread-it's MEANT to be a bit of fun.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 15:59:06
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 18 2008, 01:53 PM) [snapback]461936[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-06-18 16:01:12
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 18 2008, 02:14 PM) [snapback]461945[/snapback]
Does anyone know the extent of this? I don't think the club believe its a major problem but maybe the starter for 10 should be to review what exactly has been lost to this sort of activity.

Is that pure conjecture or have you heard it said?
mortonjag 2008-06-18 16:04:27
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Jun 18 2008, 03:01 PM) [snapback]461966[/snapback]
I think we've gone of the thread somewhat.

Is Alistair Donald a Morton F.C. Board member or not ?

People want to know if there's going to be any investment from him or if he's disapeared off the scene altogether.

I think we should be told.

Agreed-I'm waiting for some kind of official statement from Companies House within the next 24 hours. He's never been listed as a Director but I want to hear their 'take' on the position.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 16:07:02
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 18 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]461937[/snapback]
blink.gif why?
Is it "funny" to have a sibling 6 years older than you?

Nope, and it's still a funny old world! My youngest brother could legally have been an Uncle at 2.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 16:11:11
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 18 2008, 03:55 PM) [snapback]461977[/snapback]
Can you believe in God and not Alister Donald ? they could be the figment of one mans imagination .

I believe in a 'Higher Power' Chris. I don't believe in 'God' in the way that most religious folk do.

I am becoming more convinced by the minute that Mr Donald is the 'Tooth Fairy'. It's an arrangement between him and Shoogly. They reckon the kids spend £100 on Millions and Fudgy Wudgys for every tooth they lose, so it's quite a handsome mark up.

Would that the same perception could be applied elsewhere.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 16:14:01
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 18 2008, 04:02 PM) [snapback]461982[/snapback]
Lets just say its based on my own enquiries.

Fair enough. That puts you in the privileged position of having 'private information'. It sounds like you choose not to post it for public consumption, and I fully respect that.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 16:16:27
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Jun 18 2008, 03:49 PM) [snapback]461975[/snapback]
That rules me out then MJ. unsure.gif Being a proud Techy (both Glasgow and Pishley) intellectual and class snobbery are among the few traits that really wind up me. mad.gif In fact, that it's MJ you're off the Christmas card list.

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See if I care-the cards from the Oxbridge crowd are much posher anyway. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 16:18:28
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jun 18 2008, 04:02 PM) [snapback]461983[/snapback]
Totally agree. Spent most of last season shaking my head in the cowshed and wishing i was watching the game with the away support, might actually do that this year if i dont renew my season book.

Bunch of whining, un-educated morons Morton fans are...

not you guys though, your all cool... apart from Boozehound obviously.

True-though I've I've never heard him whine.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 16:19:51
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jun 18 2008, 04:09 PM) [snapback]461987[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif Not Much. laugh.gif laugh.gif

It's hilarious that YOU describe other people that way. laugh.gif laugh.gif

I'm delighted that you are amused.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 16:20:37
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 18 2008, 04:15 PM) [snapback]461994[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-06-18 16:21:32
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 18 2008, 04:19 PM) [snapback]461997[/snapback]
I know someone who was an uncle when they were born wink.gif

Siamese twins?
mortonjag 2008-06-18 16:23:50
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 18 2008, 04:22 PM) [snapback]462002[/snapback]
And did she get these qualifications from a "proper uni"?

Proper University.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 16:25:07
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 17 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]461641[/snapback]
Just got it, and my two main add-ons (Foxy tunes and a spell checker) are still working.

Nice look about it too.

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mortonjag 2008-06-18 17:29:32
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 18 2008, 04:24 PM) [snapback]462007[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-06-18 17:45:25
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 18 2008, 04:47 PM) [snapback]462030[/snapback]
Before starting the witch hunt amongst the staff lets make sure the correct proceedures were in place .
I would have thought that any proper audit would reveal deiscrepencies between the amount of season tickets issued and monies recieved .
Since this seems to be an ongoing problem then there can't be a thorough audit .

Indeed-no time ago we had folk saying that they were satisfied that money raised and donated to the club had reached the intended target, and now we discover that the club can't even count.

There is no smoke without fire-it's just as simple as that-it's becoming clearer by the minute that Rae's stewardship of this club has been nothing more than the 'suck it and see' shots in the dark of an egocentric old clown playing with a toy he can't work. He has refused to delegate-he has refused to listen to anybody-he has alienated the fans, and he's skint. Alistair Donald looks more and more like a 'con trick'. To all intents and purposes he does not exist-goodness-he never even pretended he'd spend a penny but was there in an 'advisory capacity'.

One thing's for sure, he tells a good f*cking joke. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 17:49:20
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 18 2008, 04:56 PM) [snapback]462036[/snapback]
Alister Donald reminds me of the H G Wells novella the Invisible Man .
I wonder whether we will speak about his disappearance in similar terms as Lord Lucan , Shergar etc unsure.gif

At least they put in a few appearances first! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 17:53:55
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Jun 18 2008, 05:33 PM) [snapback]462058[/snapback]
There aren't many of them at first division level, who would you like to see us sign that could fill that role?

I haven't a clue, but please don't tell me there ain't guys in division 2 who can't regularly sling over better crosses than Jimbo and Kev!
mortonjag 2008-06-18 18:08:58
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 18 2008, 04:24 PM) [snapback]462008[/snapback]
Chuffed to f*** laugh.gif , i was standing blethering beside ye on sat ya numpty dry.gif

OH, and everyone is a poufe

Everybody is apparently not! wink.gif

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 18 2008, 04:37 PM) [snapback]462018[/snapback]
Improper ones are more fun.

The proper ones are far more improper than the improper ones when it comes to proper impropriety.

QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 18 2008, 04:44 PM) [snapback]462024[/snapback]
Aye, you are one also

Ya big Poufe wink.gif

Can we have less of the poufe/pufe/pouffe stuff please. Some folk find the word/s offensive.


I always called my little brown leather footstool a po*ffe-I was taught that it came from some foreign language-now I shall be careful to call it my little brown leather footstool.

'Honey, could you kick over the little brown leather footstool please'?

'What are you on about now you sad old 'homosexual'? Last night it was a pouffe.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 18:15:00
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Jun 18 2008, 06:04 PM) [snapback]462069[/snapback]
There might be a few better crossers, but there aren't many (if any) that can beat defenders like Jim. We've tried and failed with the second division route too often in recent seasons for my liking.

Jimbo's a waste of space unless he cuts inside. He has undoubted potential. He needs a move.

QUOTE(rex manning @ Jun 18 2008, 06:09 PM) [snapback]462072[/snapback]
To be fair to Jim his crossing is probably hampered by the fact he's on the wrong wing.

He shouldn't be on either wing IMO. He was totally wasted by JM's imbecilic and stubborn myopia. Maybe DI will sort it out, but given the signings I'd happilly let Jimbo move on to better things in exchange for a journeyman left winger. While I'm at it, I don't think we should have kept Kev or Stu.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 18:17:37
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jun 18 2008, 06:11 PM) [snapback]462074[/snapback]
I'm Amused that you find that delightful.

Good
mortonjag 2008-06-18 18:40:44
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Jun 18 2008, 06:28 PM) [snapback]462077[/snapback]
I agree with the part in bold.
Where would you play him?
I can't think of any realistic targets who could fill the left wing role, beat defenders and get crosses in consistently.

I don't really involve myself much in the popular game of who's available etc.,etc. If DI can't find somebody better to play in the left wide role-so be it.

I watched Jimbo about four or five seasons ago playing in the reserves, and at that time he looked comfortable playing right midfield. I think midfield is now arguably our strongest and most competitive area in the squad-that's why I believe a move (if we could even get say 20or 30 grand) would be of mutual benefit to the club and the player.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 18:45:35
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jun 18 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]462080[/snapback]
Please do !

If you are going to quote me Scott-please quote the full post. I've replied to your father's pm, and thought the matter was closed.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 18:59:19 It refers to a situation where somebody is so thick as to be totally beyond reason. I have found from experience that, bitter though it may be, it is best to agree with such people and see an end to things.

My first experience was as a young GP. A teenage girl had been using her contraceptive pills wrongly, and was risking unwanted pregnancy. I couldn't believe it as she argued with me, so I took out the BNF and read to her-word for word-the instructions.

I kid you not-she listened, or appeared to listen to it all, before coming out with. 'Well ahm no gonnae change how ahm takin' them-ma big sister's been takin' them that way for three years and she's never fell pregnant'.

You CANNOT make up stories like that-it's been imprinted in my mind for over thirty years. I left the practice not long after that. It's kind of scary to think that she probably now has grown up children with the same attitude.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 19:11:24
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jun 18 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]462096[/snapback]
Jeez! Cool your jets auld yin or you'll have a heart attack. On second thoughts .................... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Well Smiffy, he didn't hang around for any flak the first time! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 19:19:50
QUOTE(Kaney @ Jun 18 2008, 07:01 PM) [snapback]462092[/snapback]
How was she taking them?
Firing them up the muff?

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To be honest I can't exactly remember-it was something really daft like two weeks on and two weeks off.

I'ts a bit like 'KY Jelly is not a contraceptive'.

If you're daft enough to think it might be, you probably can't read!
mortonjag 2008-06-18 19:28:00
QUOTE(suda @ Jun 18 2008, 06:36 PM) [snapback]462079[/snapback]
Prove it! Have a poll

It's already been done my friend, and Mortonjag was hated by everybody except port-ton and deego-oh and Mortonjag's 23 other aliases.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 19:31:38
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 18 2008, 07:29 PM) [snapback]462106[/snapback]
Jesus...the bar is pretty low already on this forum but FOUR pages of this utter drivel? Really, some you need to get a hold of The Observer Book of British Birds or something and get out the house a bit more.

Plenty of tits on here.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 19:32:53
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 18 2008, 07:27 PM) [snapback]462102[/snapback]
Should you not move this thread to Morton chat ? wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-18 19:43:56
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 18 2008, 07:40 PM) [snapback]462112[/snapback]
What?! ohmy.gif

Get the sperm count checked immediately! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 19:54:36
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 18 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]462116[/snapback]
Obviously not low enough for you to offer your tuppenswortht. rolleyes.gif

I have never met you in real life, nor you me. I pose a serious question.

Is a poster able to like or dislike another poster, if he/she has not met him/her?

For the record, Mortonjag variably likes/dislikes Cet Homme Charmant.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 19:56:15
QUOTE(Jim Holmes..Best Ever @ Jun 18 2008, 07:52 PM) [snapback]462119[/snapback]
Yes I agree, now can we put an end to it tongue.gif

Nope-the matter will not be settled until I have met you face to face. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-19 06:51:41
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 18 2008, 11:47 PM) [snapback]462337[/snapback]
We have an over supply of teachers. Does that mean they do not deserve to be reasonably remunerated, given the importance of their job?

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mortonjag 2008-06-19 07:20:21 Was it something I said? laugh.gif

I accepted when challenged by Father Gillan that I should retract my utterly 'tongue in cheek' comment and apologise publicly, as I immediately realised that people appeared to be offended, and when people appear to be offended there's very little point in considering the possibility of a hidden agenda.

As Father Gillan appeared on three separate occasions to threaten me with a physical encounter (I was actually a bit terrified when I saw he was a bouncer in Tokyo Joes 30 years ago), Son Gillan was reporting the matter. I think he was correct to do that. I'd have done the same if I felt that my character had been ripped to pieces by some vicious, scurrilous, and blatantly untrue comment from a total stranger.

The Gillans are clearly gentle souls-unused to that kind of verbal assault-I went way over the score, and I'd like to take this opportunity, for the avoidance of any confusion, to state clearly and unequivocally that to the best of my knowledge Scott Gillan is not a pouffe.

I also have every reason to suspect that in sexual persuasion, Scott Gillan is hetero, as opposed to bi, homo, or whatever.

What I have written above is written 'without prejudice'. If any of it appears offensive, may I apologise in advance. Mortonjag only wants to be everybody's friend.



mortonjag 2008-06-19 07:54:52



QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jun 18 2008, 10:02 PM) [snapback]462187[/snapback]
Only someone with the true interests of Morton a heart would do that. This is MJ we're talking about.

That is offensive, and defamatory. I tend to ignore such behaviour 'for what it's worth', but this is SUPPOSED to be a serious thread about a serious issue, and it appears to me that those who are currently 'poo pooing' the enquirers, may THINK they have the true interest of Morton at heart while actually hampering the uncovering of the truth. If you wish to repeat that sort of comment, I strongly advise you to make it clear that you are merely stating opinion.

QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jun 18 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]462188[/snapback]
Danny, Alistair Donald is still a non-Exec Director of Morton FC. Nothing has changed, despite MJ's best efforts to suggest otherwise. As an ex-civil servant, I can assure you that Companies House is as efficient as the Home Office in their keeping records up-to-date. smile.gif

..and as a mere layman I can assure you that until I get Companies House's side of the story I'll continue to state that Donald is not legally a Director of GMFC at the time of a 1 to 2 million share issue.

QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 18 2008, 11:08 PM) [snapback]462265[/snapback]
It may or may not be the company secretary who lodges forms. They can be lodged by anyone and its often the company's accountants who do the business - the point is though, the director in question has to sign the form giving his consent to act as a director.

This whole thing is being blown out of proportion. OK maybe the guy is not yet formally a director and maybe that has something to do with the present share issue. That does not mean he can't attend board meetings and give his input. The only thing he can't do is vote at such meetings which to be honest is not a big issue.

I suggest people don't allow MJ to wind them up over what is a nothing issue, even if it turns out to be an administrative error. I promise you that no one at company's house will care very much!! Its hardly a hanging offence!

Shareholders or alternatively the trust on behalf of trust members can write to the company secretary and ask what the position is. Legally shareholders are entitled to an answer. Whether they i.e. the shareholders and/or the trust choose to share it with us is up to them. The non shareholding fan has no more right to that information than you have to know about what the senior people at Tesco earn because you are a customer - in fact less right because Morton are a private as opposed to public company.

I suspect we have already seen the colour of Mr Donald's money. Wages for players are higher this year to enable us to attract better quality. I wonder where that is coming from?

That statement is typical of your increasingly tiresome 'know it all' attitude to everything financial. You are a mere town accountant-not bloody Nostradamus. FFS you knee jerked the same way in defence of David Elliot and ended up kickin' his baws! Only two days ago you were describing Rae in glowing terms alongside Donald-'Respectable businessmen you called them', announcing later that 'you know virtually nothing about Rae. Would you know Alistair Donald if he popped out of your Rice Krispies? rolleyes.gif



QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 19 2008, 02:04 AM) [snapback]462600[/snapback]
Surely if there is to be a share issue then it is rather important that those possible investors know and have the necessary documentation of who the directors are ?
I don't see how you can defend the club for keeping admin costs low while there are obvious problems such as this and the direct debit issue .
I honestly can't see how you can defend the club heirachy when you say it is being propped up by Golden Casket to the annual sum of 400k .
Even if we get the 2 million from the share issue you know that building costs will be higher and the true cost of such upgrading is guess work .
We still would have no gaurentee on achieving SPL status or that any tv money would be the same .
I thought you would be striving for the club to be run with the intention financial independance or as close as we could .

Tonsilitis's position on this is utterly despicable, and folk accuse ME of not having the Club's interests at heart.

Despicable because when it suits him he's an absolute stickler for the letter of the law (remember comments to my friend Big Doc 1874), yet he is happy to dismiss what is at very least total incompetence as 'just one of those things'.

Companies house has Arthur Montford's and Ian Brown's resignations documented. Donald has 'been a director' for five months, and notifications are required within 14 days. OK-if the club acted appropriately back in January, why have they not checked the listing with a share issue pending?

Until the matter is clarified, none of us is entitled to jump to conclusions. We are , however, morally bound to ask questions if we have misgivings about the running of the club.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 08:05:34
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 19 2008, 05:51 AM) [snapback]462653[/snapback]
Does DDFR pay for his season ticket ?

If he does not, do all shareholders get a free season ticket ?

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Mr Rae is Chairman of the club. Rest assured, if Mr Rae has decided that Mr Rae should pay for Mr Rae's season tickets, Mr Rae will pay for them.

Mr Rae likes his commands to be obeyed to the letter.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 08:08:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 19 2008, 08:06 AM) [snapback]462661[/snapback]
Gidday Teacher Tom,

and how many Latin scholars do we have ?

You, Cicero and mortonjag ?

Could/should you not have posted in Zwahili ?

Not when he's sitting havin' a keech in the Mearns.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 08:17:40
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 19 2008, 01:10 AM) [snapback]462526[/snapback]
The thing is though, some folk on here were born wrapped in it, and still live in it

Sadly that is true-and will die in it, and be buried in it, and will complain that the worms are saying all manner of evil against them.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 09:12:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 19 2008, 08:42 AM) [snapback]462677[/snapback]
he whose name we may not mention.

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mortonjag 2008-06-19 09:16:23
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Jun 19 2008, 09:10 AM) [snapback]462688[/snapback]
I am also a frequent sufferer of the damn things. sad.gif I have been told that it is also something to do with a lack of Iron in the body and was recommended to take tablets called L-Lysine (Get them in Holland & Barrett) as this builds up a defence & I can honestly say I have had them less frequent since popping these pills. When I get one tho I treat it with Blistex Cold sore Gel & Immitation Aftershave from Greece wink.gif . Its the best medication that I have came across, I hate Zovirax as it keeps the coldsore soft, which delays the healing process.

Not the case. Having said that if you're buying stuff that works good luck.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 09:21:05 Depends what's meant by 'hard'. For his height George Anderson's achievements at centre half were outstanding. Hannibal was a tough customer, as was Johnny Boyd before him-Stan Rankin-Jim Duffy etc.

Actually NOBODY was harder than Bobby Collins-he'd have felled Tyson and stood at about 5' 4".
mortonjag 2008-06-19 09:58:11
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 19 2008, 09:44 AM) [snapback]462711[/snapback]
Well said, MJ. I don't understand why people are trying to mitigate for this.

Still, Tonsilitis got one thing right: Companies House aren't going to care at all. Nobody's going to jail, nobody's going to even get a fine. In that sense it's a non-issue, but in terms of the running of our club (i.e. the important part) this remains very worrying.

I don't want the club losing more money, and contrary to some posters' opinions, I have not 'reported' the club. Companies House exists to regulate the running of businesses and has a responsibility to keep the public reliably informed. It may very well be that they are the culprits if indeed there IS misinformation. I have asked them to reassure me that their published information is up to date and have been promised a reply by this afternoon.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 10:04:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 19 2008, 09:16 AM) [snapback]462695[/snapback]
Is CHC invited ?

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Everybody's invited and we're going to have a gay old time!
mortonjag 2008-06-19 10:15:02
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 19 2008, 09:39 AM) [snapback]462707[/snapback]
Is that Volare by the Gypsy Kings? tongue.gif

PS There is something deeply uncomfortable about this poll. No double entendres intended. It is like a forum for a bunch of raging homophobes.

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Which is quite different from rampant.


"Daffodils" (1804)

I WANDER'D lonely as a cloud

That floats on high o'er vales and hills,

When all at once I saw a crowd,

A host, of golden daffodils;

Beside the lake, beneath the trees,
Fluttering and dancing in the breeze.

Continuous as the stars that shine

And twinkle on the Milky Way,

They stretch'd in never-ending line

Along the margin of a bay:

Ten thousand saw I at a glance,
Tossing their heads in sprightly dance.

The waves beside them danced; but they

Out-did the sparkling waves in glee:

A poet could not but be gay,

In such a jocund company:

I gazed -- and gazed -- but little thought
What wealth the show to me had brought:

For oft, when on my pouffe I lie

In vacant or in pensive mood,

They flash upon that inward eye

Which is the bliss of solitude;

And then my heart with pleasure fills,
And dances with the daffodils.

By William Wordsworth (1770-1850)



mortonjag 2008-06-19 10:24:40
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 19 2008, 10:06 AM) [snapback]462729[/snapback]
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Good man, though while I concede the language may have been foul I would dispute it was threatening.

I trust you've also reported Redsockbluehoops' personal abuse to me, or are you as I suspect being selective in your indignation as usual. tongue.gif

Just a thought Johnny boy and the other MJphiles......... don't you think you're taking this whole thing just a wee tad too seriously?

There are people dying in their world in their tens of thousands every day from war, starvation and preventable diseases. Even closer to home hundreds of people were diagnosed with cancer yesterday and the same number will be diagnosed today and tomorrow. And you're gettting all high and mighty and your self-rightous knickers in a twist over a potty mouthed old man getting a 3 day ban from a football messageboard. I mean, c'moan tae f***, in the greater scheme of things it's pretty trivial is it not? rolleyes.gif

Tell you what Johnny boy, you must have a really cushy life to get so wound up about something as trivial as this. I envy you for that, I really do.

Have a word with yourself though, eh. wink.gif

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Seems some people never learn-I cannot respond to that in the light hearted way I would normally do. Despite what has happened you choose to have a wee vicious kick. Am I allowed to say that I won't report what is ageist and offensive, and in return hope I'm allowed to suggest that you are an extremely unpleasant person.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 10:30:52
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jun 19 2008, 10:29 AM) [snapback]462748[/snapback]
im what? blink.gif

royalty
mortonjag 2008-06-19 10:48:41
QUOTE(dazed @ Jun 19 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]462755[/snapback]
confusion reigns with the sovereign! biggrin.gif

dazed 'n' confused
mortonjag 2008-06-19 10:57:09
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jun 19 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]462751[/snapback]
Option one. Apologising for something is just an acceptance that you did wrong, and If someone took offence to it then it should be dealt with.

I know you have me on ignore so you won't read this but apologising is done for many reasons and would NEVER be taken in a court of law as proof of any kind of guilt. How often have you collided with somebody in a busy store and automatically said 'Sorry'-irrespective of 'guilt' and without really bothering to work out who-if anybody-had the right of way?

'Sorry' can be the most pragmatic word in some situations-the kindest word in others-it makes people feel better and helps to defuse explosions, or of course it can express genuine apology-so SORRY-but, as almost always with your views on Mortonjag, you are wrong.

mortonjag 2008-06-19 11:08:25
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 19 2008, 10:54 AM) [snapback]462767[/snapback]
Yip, he has, but I for one won't criticise him for that, otherwise you're being dragged down to the level of the MJphiles.

The fact is Edinton and the Mods give a lot of time and effort to provide this free service for all of us. Often they're put in impossible situations and have to make a decision which will please some and outrage others. I really think the abuse Tontastic took last night was way out of order and I hope that some people who may now have cooled down a little bit are ashamed at the way they reacted last night.

Tontastic didn't deserve that, and I hope some folk on here have the baws now to admit that and apologise to him.

I won't be holding my breath though.

I've had a civilised pm from tontastic and have replied in a civilised way-I hope we've found some common ground on this.

One thing is for sure, neither Edinton, nor Tontastic is lacking in perception, and both are well acquainted with your previous behaviour in respect of complaints.

I just hope they both have a pocketful of anti-emetics when they read what I regard as sycophantic sh1te which you have just posted-oh and they might clock your previous comment about a 'potty mouthed old man' too.

If they are to be believed, they are genuinely trying to stamp out abuse, and you think you can score cheap points on the rebound. I could call you lots of things which would be true, but I mustn't.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 11:11:29
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 19 2008, 11:05 AM) [snapback]462781[/snapback]
Nonagenarian

Innumerate
mortonjag 2008-06-19 11:14:00
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Jun 19 2008, 11:03 AM) [snapback]462779[/snapback]
Am i the only one that is annoyed that every time i open up the msg board i see another topic about this Mortonjag guy?? Who gives a s*** about the old idiot....




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mortonjag 2008-06-19 11:15:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 19 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]462737[/snapback]
May we dry it for you ?

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I thought you'd sold the flame thrower
mortonjag 2008-06-19 11:23:07 Keek! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-19 11:39:57
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Jun 19 2008, 11:37 AM) [snapback]462804[/snapback]
Haha a wee bit too far, i just can't understand why there are so many topics made up for you.

Quite sad really unsure.gif

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By the way every time I see your avatar it makes me think of C*C
mortonjag 2008-06-19 11:43:31
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 19 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]462806[/snapback]
Must be some view you have from that high horse of yours Johnny boy. laugh.gif

Perspective is indeed strange. Johnny Boy's horse looks quite like a Shetland Pony to me.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 11:48:08
C F G
Step we gaily on we go, heel for heel and toe for toe
C F G
Arm in arm and row in row, all for Mairi's wedding

Over hillways up and down, myrtle green and bracken brown
Past the sheiling throuigh the town, all for the sake of Mairi.

Chorus:

Brighter cheeks as rowans are, brighter eye as any star
The fairest of them all by far is our darling Mairi

Chorus:

Plenty herring, plenty meal, plenty peat to fill her creel
Plenty bonny bairns as weel, that's the toast for Mairi

Chorus (2x):
mortonjag 2008-06-19 11:53:57
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 19 2008, 11:25 AM) [snapback]462802[/snapback]
Keek yourself...altho at your age you probably do! (little smiley thing for being reported to the mods!)

Do you know how young I am Dave-in man years-not Donkey's ages?
mortonjag 2008-06-19 14:17:46
QUOTE(Jamie_M @ Jun 19 2008, 12:30 PM) [snapback]462841[/snapback]
I can categorically state for the record that Dougie does pay for his season ticket - he's that type of chairman, in with the common guy paying like the rest of us. Also, to keep with the times he decided he should be all hip, up to date and modern and pay by standing order.

It's not his fault that due to his advancing years and a little bit of dementia setting in that he accidentally forgets one of the numbers on his account, writes the wrong one and claims a free season ticket....

Well who could blame you for questioning that possibility-or wait-are you Shoogly's psychiatrist? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-19 14:32:29


QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 19 2008, 11:51 AM) [snapback]462822[/snapback]
Certainly not Newt, Group hugs are for sodomites. wink.gif

I wouldn't touch them with a clothes peg and as for thae pouffes-I wouldn't give them house room.

QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 19 2008, 01:59 PM) [snapback]462907[/snapback]
Is that a low key admission of homosexuality?

quite possibly-I have always believed in welcoming the unexpected.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 14:36:20
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Jun 19 2008, 12:36 PM) [snapback]462848[/snapback]
Haha what a sad little man you are...

Newt is neither sad nor little-he's 6'9 and as manic as a March hare on Speed.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 15:06:03 If Dundee want Innes enough I'd imagine they'll call the agent's bluff and up the offer a wee bit.

Allegiance to DI won't be enough on its own.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 15:09:10
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 19 2008, 02:41 PM) [snapback]462934[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDQuestion is Spurtle-would you shag him?
mortonjag 2008-06-19 15:22:29
QUOTE(Jamie_M @ Jun 19 2008, 02:59 PM) [snapback]462937[/snapback]
Yes. I am Dougie's Psychiatrist. He calls me Bob. I know it's not my name but I let him away with it. He's old and forgetful.

Yeah the signs are there that his mental state is not quite what it was. The first warning sign for me was when he told me he wanted to use his hard earned money to save the club he loves with no probable return. I told him he was mad to even consider it but he just said 'look bob, this is something i'm going to have to do. After that i'll spend more money on players and renovating the stadium because I want to. Not because i'll get this money back just because I want to move this team forward'

'Ok Dougie, you mad old gowk, go for it on your own head be it. You know you'll get pelters when you don't spend even more, or due to forgetfulness you put the kettle on instead of updating the official site, or like a lot of other excitable fans with a bit of information you let the cat out of the bag about a signing target before the deal is done and someone might sneak in and scupper the deal but you can handle all that, or better still just forget they've even given you pelters in the first place.'

Dementia? Keeping Chairmen sane is 1804....

Dr Bob, is the patient's condition stable or deteriorating? What treatment have you prescribed.? Do you envisage a course of CBT or would ECT be more appropriate? Most importantly, how do you see the prognosis?
mortonjag 2008-06-19 16:05:03
QUOTE(Jamie_M @ Jun 19 2008, 03:50 PM) [snapback]462966[/snapback]
Dougie's condition is stable. Dementia doesn't affect the cheery old men as badly as the grumpy ones so treatment at this time is minimal. Which brings me to my next diagnosis.

Mr Jag - you may be struggling to recall, but just in my last post I detailled that my name isn't actually Dr Bob. That's just what Dougie calls me. This is also backed up by my username - my actual name.

Forgetfulness? Lack of comprehension? Mr Jag I do believe I am spotting the signs of dementia setting in. Thank goodness we caught this soon. In someone with such a dour faced, grumpy, moany nature as yourself dementia can take hold really quickly and the effects can be severe. We need to schedule some treatment for you right away. Never mind CBT - I think most of the 'doctors' on the board would prescribe you an extensive period of GTF.

The alternative route would be ECT. As my clinic is of a voluntary nature - we rely heavily on voluntary workers to allow us to carry out our full service. Are there any budding helpers out there who would be willing to give up some time to help deliver the electric shocks to the Jag?

Dr Jamie M,

My name is actually Dr Jag, and I have reason to suspect that you are masquerading as a member of the Royal College of Psychiatrists. I have a simple task for you to perform. Either tell me the most common unwanted effect of cannabis smoking, or display a photograph of your credentials for inspection by my personal assistant Slobodan Manobyavic..

signed Hardup Jag M.B.,Ch.B., MRCPsch.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 16:11:57
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 19 2008, 04:02 PM) [snapback]462977[/snapback]
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Got to me. Just look how I dealt with Scott Gillan laugh.gif

Any word from Father Gillan?
mortonjag 2008-06-19 16:16:26
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 19 2008, 03:30 PM) [snapback]462948[/snapback]
Are you insinuating I'm a pouffe ?

Do you have a father?
mortonjag 2008-06-19 16:23:23 pair of f*cking comedians
mortonjag 2008-06-19 16:48:56
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 19 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]463015[/snapback]
You my friend are a pompous windbag of the first order. You seem to think that dishing insults is the way to respond any response which even slightly contradicts your position. I may be 'just a town accountant' but I'm a qualified one with a lot more experience of corporate affairs than any doctor. You really don't like it when you come across someone who knows more about any particular subject than you, do you?

As for my attitude towards the club's interests might I suggest that if mine is despicable, yours completely stinks with your crusade against Douglas Rae and rubbishing of anything the club tries to do. You don't know why Alistair Donald's not listed at companies house and it may have a perfectly acceptable explanation such as being related to the current share issue. Even if it is a c*** up, you are not entitled to know unless you are a shareholder - are you?You can't accept not knowing can you? It would not suit your private agenda which none of us other than your wee PM clique are privy to.

You are a sh1t stirrer of the first magnitude. I'm not even going to dignify your other comments with a reply. Suffice to say that your twisted interpretation of some of my posts is way, way off beam.

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mortonjag 2008-06-19 16:57:56
QUOTE(Jamie_M @ Jun 19 2008, 04:37 PM) [snapback]463025[/snapback]
At no point in my previous posts did I state that I was a member of the Royal College of Psychiatrists nor did I masquerade as such. Complementary and voluntary medicine is perfectly legal and does not have to be affiliated with such an organisation. Without the technology to upload my credentials, I will take a shot at answering your qualifying exam question.
The most common unwanted effect of cannabis smoking?

As cannabis is still classed as an illegal drug, the majority of cannabis use is not recorded. As a result there can be no way to decipher which is officially the 'most common' unwanted effect of cannabis smoking.

Fortunately, I do have some input to give on the subject. From my own intensive research as documented in my PHD (unfinished) - 'Woah - This s***'s screwing me up, man!', after deep research into cannabis, it's use and it's effects - I found 4 extremely common unwanted effects of cannabis smoking.

1. Procrastination, lack of motivation, and chilling syndrome. This effects leads to cannabis users sitting around doing very little and failing to get on with any tasks they may have scheduled - including household chores, shopping or finishing your PHD.

2. Extreme skintness syndrome. Extensive cannabis use can lead to this condition where the effects are primarily felt around the pocket and the wallet. This condition is extremely contageous. As a result, skintness syndrome may extend to your immediate family, friends and any service provider who you fail to pay as a result of your skintness.

3. The dreaded whiteo. Excessive cannabis use can lead to the dreaded whiteo, one of the worst conditions caused by cannabis use. Knock on effects of the whiteo can leave you feeling sick but can also leave you looking a fool in front of your non-whiteoing cannabis buddies.

4. The killer munchies. Possibly the effect with the most intense short term effect. A serious hit of the munchies can leave you feeling frustrated, anxious and downright starving. This condition is most severe when combined with Skintness syndrome AND Procrastination, Lack of Motivation and Chilling syndrome - as both of these conditions can prevent you from achieving a short term fix for the munchies.

A superby researched, and well documented response Dr Jamie M, though had you been a real psychiatrist you'd have instantly declared minor paranoid psychosis, often leading if untreated to full blown schizophrenia.

Atypical paranoia, is of course by no means limited to cannabis users-it is not infrequently found in rather intense anally retentive personalities-librarians,computer programmers and accountants being three professions in which the condition is not uncommonly noted.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 17:06:07
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jun 19 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]463045[/snapback]
Best post on here so far, and none of the boring, wee-boy name-calling that most of the rest do (AND most of MJ's do if someone disagrees with him).

The auld duffer is just tiresome and totally obnoxious when anyone dares to disagree with him or question him. I've got him on "ignore" but it'll be a pleasure not to even see him quoted so much as I skim down the threads.

Bliss. biggrin.gif

Most repetitive quote of the year!
mortonjag 2008-06-19 17:08:26
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 19 2008, 05:06 PM) [snapback]463053[/snapback]
[codebox]You are correct. I was rude and petty to insult you and for the time
being, I have nothing more worthwhile to say on this matter.[/codebox]

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mortonjag 2008-06-19 17:15:33
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 19 2008, 05:13 PM) [snapback]463065[/snapback]
CODE
You are correct sir

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mortonjag 2008-06-19 17:20:11
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jun 19 2008, 04:23 PM) [snapback]463001[/snapback]
lol I believe I just fell over here trying to be fancy when I should have just had a shot
Yeah he would probs laugh as WeegieTon is a friend of both me and my dad so we dont mind a but of banter with him , Its when people I dont know or like throw up random insults after being warned by mods about doing it

A few hours of quiet was bliss last night hopefully many more to follow

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Didn't the 'Mods' speak to you and dad last night?
mortonjag 2008-06-19 17:25:18
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 19 2008, 05:10 PM) [snapback]463063[/snapback]
true, i think a lot of people needed that last night...there was a lot of built up frustration over the last few weeks, everyone seems much happier today smile.gif

Mye dadie cride hymn selph two slepe-itt wozint verie phunnie phawr hymn


(sined Munx)
mortonjag 2008-06-19 20:51:00
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jun 19 2008, 08:40 PM) [snapback]463241[/snapback]
Sounds just like MJ. The guy's an ar*e and if you can't see that then you're as bad as him. mad.gif


Will the mods see this? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-19 20:55:20
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 19 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]463248[/snapback]
your question, yes we did and we werent the only ones, and again i will NOT post or PM anyone with details nor will i remove any of my post unless directed to by a mod. No, enough is enough with this s***, YOU post that neither you or any male member of your close family have EVER partaken in a 'violent' action and i will issue an apology to you all in big letters and i will 'ban' myself from posting on this forum for the 3 days that mortonjag was supposed to have been given for calling you the 'p' word. How is that for fairness ?



you have been very bold in a lot of things you have said and in my opinion got away with to much sometimes ...

But you will NOT !!! and I repeat WILL NOT !!! make any slurs regarding my family i do noy know who you are but will this season make it a point of meeting you face to face to reoeat what ive written here and on the website fun is fun but saying something about someones sexuality is way over the top ...

So Sir I repeat talking about myself and any of my family is now out of bounds to you ..

Pat G


mortonjag 2008-06-19 21:06:19
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jun 19 2008, 06:13 PM) [snapback]463100[/snapback]
Well that certainly shot up all the know-it-alls on this subject. Your analysis is spot on and reconciles with my own experiences - both personal and business-related. wink.gif

SHOOGLY IS VINDICATED--BRAVO
mortonjag 2008-06-19 21:08:53
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 19 2008, 06:25 PM) [snapback]463110[/snapback]
F**k, F**k, F**K. How can a guy be expected to stay mad when you see the last 5/6 posts!!!

Barstewards !! rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-19 21:14:05
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jun 19 2008, 05:34 PM) [snapback]463076[/snapback]
The mods spoke to me to inform me that you had been banned , They also informed me they didnt percieve what my dad had said as a threat.

They did post on the other hand "How many times do you have to tell a grown man not to do something before he takes the hint?"

Care to answer that question ?

You are of course as entitled as anyone to protection from threats & abuse, I've sent a message to Pat/Scott to ensure that posts aimed at you which might be interpreted as threating should not be repeated.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 21:18:13
QUOTE(Savo @ Jun 19 2008, 07:30 PM) [snapback]463184[/snapback]
Mutual benefit? To lose our best player - never mind midfielder - for £20,000? You're having a giraffe. I'd be pretty sure, in fact almost certain, that one of his principal suitors, Mark McGhee, wouldn't even insult the boy (never mind the club) with such a derisory offer. He is much more highly rated than that.

If he was that effin brilliant he'd be gone-simple.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 21:21:26
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Jun 19 2008, 07:26 PM) [snapback]463174[/snapback]
Why not? We just gave 2 years to a 33 year old. There are plenty defenders who play very well at this level well into their 30s. Experienced heads around the club is something we have been lacking recently.

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QUOTE(steveoath @ Jun 19 2008, 07:28 PM) [snapback]463179[/snapback]
The only reason the "saga" has been dragging on is pure speculation. IIRC Morton haven't came out and said they are chasing the player have they? Add to that the fact that D.I. is away and we won't likely see any movement in the market until his return.

Steve

Cat's away-agents play.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 21:37:45 Everybody loves Mortonjag-it's just one of those homme fatal things.

It's understandable, and actually rather sweet that the spurned are variously vituperative.

Only deego and port-ton have experienced the balmy bliss of an evening on Mortonjag's balcony.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 22:00:38
QUOTE(Patg @ Jun 19 2008, 09:48 PM) [snapback]463304[/snapback]
Ok still hiding but thats youre choice no I and my kids have never taken part in a violent act at the football ..

But do re-call stopping another member of this board commiting an act of violence in the cowshed both Scott and myself spoke to said member and the police and the incident was closed I haave shouted and bawled at people who I dont agree with but never came to blows even shouted at our last management team then apoligised to both of them a few weeks later ..

So please enlighten me when I have lifted my fists and struck any blows or any of my family has then we can all go to bed enlightened and happy ..

Pat G

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QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 19 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]463306[/snapback]
are there any mods around?

why on earth is this stuff allowed?

Edinton: you need to restate the forum rules

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Trumpet you are a pouffe

QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 19 2008, 09:54 PM) [snapback]463308[/snapback]
I'm confused about sexuality....
are any of the gillans gay or is it just talk!

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yesterday I'd have said it was just talk
mortonjag 2008-06-19 22:02:39
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 19 2008, 09:57 PM) [snapback]463311[/snapback]
Booooring!

Poofs the lot of you, apart from JonaTon.

JONATON IS


not



A POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-06-19 22:06:07
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 19 2008, 10:02 PM) [snapback]463316[/snapback]
i don't think this is what greenockmorton.org should be used for, funny though it undoubtedly is laugh.gif

Well f*** YOU YA POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-06-19 22:13:09
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 19 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]463318[/snapback]
I have now posted, and deleted - a concrete incident twice Pat. But in the spirit (sic) of the board I have deleted them. I'll happily walk you through them though when I see you next if you're still interested. And for anyone who knows me, that is said in a completely non-threatening "over a pint and chewing the cud" manner, not in any other context.

TonInDublin

Effin oirish COW

QUOTE(Youngsa @ Jun 19 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]463319[/snapback]
Nail firmly hit on the head there TiD. Some folk have lost what little credibility they had left with this nonsense.

As for the mods - if this is what gets you a 3 day ban after some of the s*** spouted on here by others then you ought to chuck it.

Absolute disgrace sad.gif

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QUOTE(Patg @ Jun 19 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]463320[/snapback]
And what does the mj say then

Mee maw-mee maw-mee maw

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 19 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]463324[/snapback]
Woooooooooo!

Another night of reading this thread.

Even with the jag about it's still a crecker!

POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-06-19 22:16:19
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 19 2008, 10:14 PM) [snapback]463336[/snapback]
****!

POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-06-19 22:24:57
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 19 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]463322[/snapback]
I wasn't born, I was knitted tongue.gif

I know you like this MJ

Spurtle-you are awful-but I like you!
mortonjag 2008-06-19 22:30:07
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 19 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]463351[/snapback]
PEOPLE OF ALL SIZES WELCOME THE NEWS THAT MJ IS BACK AND URGE DOROTHY TO GO TELL CHC THE NEWS ...


When are you gonna come down
When are you going to land
I should have stayed on the farm
I should have listened to my old man


You know you can't hold me forever
I didn't sign up with you
I'm not a present for your friends to open
This boy's too young to be singing the blues

So goodbye yellow brick road
Where the dogs of society howl
You can't plant me in your penthouse
I'm going back to my plough

Back to the howling old owl in the woods
Hunting the horny back toad
Oh I've finally decided my future lies
Beyond the yellow brick road

What do you think you'll do then
I bet that'll shoot down your plane
It'll take you a couple of vodka and tonics
To set you on your feet again

Maybe you'll get a replacement
There's plenty like me to be found
Mongrels who ain't got a penny
Sniffing for tidbits like you on the ground
mortonjag 2008-06-19 22:35:44
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 19 2008, 10:16 PM) [snapback]463339[/snapback]
Okay get this, Big Doc is what they call me, im hiding nothing. Now you have been a bouncer but never hit ANYONE ???? c'mon Pat get a bit of reality here, i wasnt the one who posted that i was non-violent, far from it i spent 10 years in the Army but then im big enough and honest enough not to put myself on a pedestal and not to admit to having the odd scrap or two, i never came on here this evening to start hassling people, i never called anyone a liar and i haven't threatened anyone, and i repeat, i will not discuss the incident, on here or by pm with you or anyone else for that matter so if that makes me a liar then so be it, i will not lose any sleep over it as i know i have kept my dignity intact tonight ( for a change wink.gif )

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QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 19 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]463350[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-06-19 22:38:51
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 19 2008, 10:36 PM) [snapback]463363[/snapback]
Ronaldo finally hears the news that MJ is back after being stuck away from the world news in switzerland

RONALDO IS A POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-06-19 22:45:45
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 19 2008, 09:57 PM) [snapback]463310[/snapback]
old age is compulsory - growing up is not!

Hmm-not very funny if you die of cancer at 21, but I take your point.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 22:56:15
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 19 2008, 10:43 PM) [snapback]463373[/snapback]
This is well off topic, but I just got a new dog and called him Oozy. True story.

Perpetually pished poster Boozy
has purchased a puppy called 'Oozy'
perhaps it's a pouffe
with a gay little'woof'
(although I suspect it will deny it vigorously)
and will shag other dogs when they're woozy
mortonjag 2008-06-19 23:00:36
QUOTE(Waverley @ Jun 19 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]463383[/snapback]
Guys from the 60's would include; Johnny Boyd, Jim Reilly, Stan Rankin, Jon Madsen, Eric Smith.

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mortonjag 2008-06-19 23:05:45
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jun 19 2008, 10:53 PM) [snapback]463392[/snapback]
Claire:
why dnt u f***in grow up and act ur age!!!

yeah im the one with the problem blink.gif

See thae effin wummin-they're all pouffes
mortonjag 2008-06-19 23:13:05
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 19 2008, 11:03 PM) [snapback]463419[/snapback]
Maybe you won't get in unless you roll up your right trooser leg and flash your left tit.

I'm sorry?

What a despicably sexist remark.

Mr Edwards-from now on I cannot ever regard you in the same light. I had a mind to report you to the big Mod- I MEAN IT-not wee Brian, or festivaly frustrated Edinton-the BIG Mod-but I felt that might further your cause.

Shame on you.

Feel a right tit.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 23:19:10
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 19 2008, 11:10 PM) [snapback]463431[/snapback]
If it has anything to do with understanding people. You two will be top of the list smile.gif

LL I'm getting a bit tired of your clever sayings-not only have I come to the conclusion that you're sexist but you're obviously a POUFFE.

I'm not a lesbian-my girlfriend is-aye right! laugh.gif

pee ess----do you know the definition of gillania?
mortonjag 2008-06-19 23:27:55
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 19 2008, 10:58 PM) [snapback]463408[/snapback]
funny seeing as I have saw your c*** more than any other guys! tongue.gif

Puggs-your University degree shines through your every post. Fing approves. Munx sez fing izza prik

QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 19 2008, 11:21 PM) [snapback]463444[/snapback]
wink.gif
I can't help but think the tiny 'not' was intentional. laugh.gif

I'm beginning to think we're all pouffes-where are those Gillan chaps-the nightclub bouncer wallahs-surely this night is still young!
mortonjag 2008-06-19 23:34:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 19 2008, 11:29 PM) [snapback]463457[/snapback]
Good thing I got my dissertation proof read then eh wink.gif

Indeed-mind you Tonsilitis can't spell either, and he keeps reminding us he's stinkin' rich.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 23:41:32
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 19 2008, 11:30 PM) [snapback]463460[/snapback]
We've got all that keech here already haven't we? What's the point of having another receptacle?

Only a POUFFE would use that term
mortonjag 2008-06-19 23:48:45
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 19 2008, 11:37 PM) [snapback]463469[/snapback]
And you can spell and keep doing the same wink.gif

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Mortonjag is in straitened circumstances-do not be fooled by the bravado-the Gillans could buy and sell him I'd imagine-and they are NOT



POUFFES
mortonjag 2008-06-19 23:52:05
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 19 2008, 11:48 PM) [snapback]463485[/snapback]
Not for the poofs! We're They're always happy!

C'est vraie mon peti chou chou!
mortonjag 2008-06-19 23:55:07
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 19 2008, 11:45 PM) [snapback]463482[/snapback]
You're the one that's fond of pink.

I effin hate pink-it reminds me of thae pouffes
mortonjag 2008-06-19 23:58:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 19 2008, 11:54 PM) [snapback]463499[/snapback]
Why ?

and is that a **** or **** or a **** ?



I'm wearying of all this crap. I suspect GILLANIA is about to rule the world-POUFFES take note.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 00:02:27 Cretins never never never shall behave.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 00:06:15
QUOTE(Pedro_c @ Jun 19 2008, 11:53 PM) [snapback]463498[/snapback]
Pat,

You don't know me but I remember you. I was 18, your mate came in to a pub and butted and then punched my mate, who strangely enough you are now mates with I think. He takes the money on your supporters bus.

I was in Coopers bar in Central Station, it has now changed its name, before a game in a Euro 1996 qualifying game , I think it was against Greece. I tried to get him to stop, verbally, because you lot would have made pancakes out of me, and you said to me, and I remember this clearly, "If you don't shut it you're next", so don't come over with all this innocent nonsense. Yes, it was a long time ago, and frankly I couldn't give a toss anymore but I just wanted to point out that you're no angel yourself. This is fact and I can get my mate to remind you of it.

And if someone honestly gets upset by being called a ****, then they really need to get a life.

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mortonjag 2008-06-20 00:20:00
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 20 2008, 12:09 AM) [snapback]463526[/snapback]
Only 21 pages so far.

You're way off Scott.

I think the poor chap is suffering from withdrawal symptoms. Sad really-all that effort from someone who to me at least, is a mere child.

Twenty four hours ago I'd never have imagined that his father had-if accounts are to be credited- been an indiscriminate nightclub bouncer. Until very recently I was prepared to see him as a simple and winsome soul-the epitome of decorum and gentleness.

Funny old world.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 00:28:07
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Jun 19 2008, 11:18 PM) [snapback]463440[/snapback]
Everyone loves irvineTON. ph34r.gif

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QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jun 20 2008, 12:18 AM) [snapback]463543[/snapback]
Mortonjag, for example?

Mortonjag is a POUFFE.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 00:32:46
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jun 20 2008, 12:30 AM) [snapback]463567[/snapback]
If you believe I'm a liar how do you know I was telling the truth about being a liar? I could have lied about that. But then that would prove that I was a liar and so I'd have been telling the truth. But then that's wrong 'cause I'd have lied about being a liar because I wasn't

Didn't think about that, did you? F*cking idiot.

Tremendous poster my sweaty, hairy nipples.

Rule Gillania.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 00:35:35 unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-20 00:39:06
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 20 2008, 12:35 AM) [snapback]463576[/snapback]
I can’t abide bullying and especially the ganging up of people against others. There seems to be different camps (possibly not the most appropriate phrase at this time) with regards a misunderstanding between a number of posters who really should know better. At times it does make for interesting/funny reading but in my opinion to start dissecting a person/ family’s past is taking it a step too far. In my opinion such references should be deleted by the Mod.
PS If anyone does want to divulge any dirty laundry about THEMSELVES then fire away ph34r.gif

I always wanted to be a bouncer but I was too wee.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 00:42:46 For over twenty four hours I've been desperate to call Tontastic a POUFFE

mortonjag 2008-06-20 00:46:44
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 20 2008, 12:42 AM) [snapback]463593[/snapback]
deeglets sounds like a nice word for poo, that you'd say to toddlers.

Hush-you may offend the little ones.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 00:50:31
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 20 2008, 12:39 AM) [snapback]463585[/snapback]
Not where it matters. wink.gif

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QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 20 2008, 12:44 AM) [snapback]463595[/snapback]
Yep you are probably correct. Apologies. My attempt at trying to be a cyber counsellor was misplaced.

Don't demean yourself HT-it matters not who won or lost, but how you played the game.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 00:53:23
QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Jun 20 2008, 12:45 AM) [snapback]463596[/snapback]
You have a 42 inch Tv up it...remember?

Showing 'Songs of praise'.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 01:04:04
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 19 2008, 06:56 PM) [snapback]463142[/snapback]
Cheers!
I think with teachers, they could use the over supply to help improve the standard. Have more assessment of who the best teachers are and replace or retrain ones not up the mark.

Obviously the education budget is far higher than the fire service budget, so think there would be scope improve things.

I think it's a simple matter of logistics Piehole. IF we have too many teachers, train them to put out fires, which are very dangerous.

QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 20 2008, 12:39 AM) [snapback]463586[/snapback]
So salary is just not simply based on supply and demand but based on many different factors? I am glad that we appear to now agree on the matter.

Of course salary is based on supply and demand-if there's no supply, there's no salary-if there's no demand there's no salary.


Rule Gillania.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 01:08:27
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 20 2008, 01:06 AM) [snapback]463606[/snapback]
He's the only guy I've ever felt the need to put on ignore. f*** me, he was annoying as f***! I'm actually getting angry thinking about the s***e he posted.

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mortonjag 2008-06-20 01:13:18
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 20 2008, 12:38 AM) [snapback]463582[/snapback]
I am not a f***ing perv!

Fud.



POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-06-20 07:50:29
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jun 20 2008, 02:53 AM) [snapback]463620[/snapback]
You prove that theory daily

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mortonjag 2008-06-20 07:55:23
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 20 2008, 05:42 AM) [snapback]463638[/snapback]
One can post penis but not c***.

One can post fanny but not c***.

One can post homosexual but not ****.

One can post Douglas Rae but not *careful, or I'll close down the Internet*.

Good-first class to Melbourne.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 07:56:43 PLEASE Sir
mortonjag 2008-06-20 08:02:38
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 20 2008, 07:28 AM) [snapback]463647[/snapback]
at least his weapon does not ironing.

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Fortunately I'm doing the Herald Crossword--the answer is


NEED

You seem to know Toby better than I suspected!
mortonjag 2008-06-20 08:11:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 19 2008, 11:52 PM) [snapback]463493[/snapback]
3 days and still no answers.

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Tonsilitis has been hinting heavily that he 'knows something', but it seems he's for keeping 'his sh*t to himself'. I really hope he doesn't have some damming evidence.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 08:17:54
QUOTE(Savo @ Jun 20 2008, 01:17 AM) [snapback]463610[/snapback]
No, arrant nonsense.
So what if Jim hasn't moved yet.
Derek McInnes and Derek Lilley both played here for years before they moved on to enjoy good careers elsewhere.
McAlister, in my opinion, will also move on to bigger and better things - sooner rather than later.
PS, I didn't say he was 'effin brilliant' (I said he was Morton's best player and rubbished your valuation of him tongue.gif ).

I did NOT put a valuation on him-I suggested we let him go at a reduced price for the mutual benefit of Jimbo and the Ton

QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 20 2008, 02:42 AM) [snapback]463618[/snapback]
We paid £11,000 odd for Kieran McAnespie, £15,000 for Bobby Linn, £15,000 for Jamie Stevenson. If you think we'd let Jim go for that sort of fee - or that that's all he's worth - you've lost your mind.

That happened long ago!

Read what I posted above. The only place Jimbo MIGHT now fit in would be wide right-but WOW we kept superman!

The boy is a midfielder, and we now have (given the squad size) too many midfielders-let him go and develop his undoubted talent and use the £20,000 - £30,000 to buy a half decent left winger.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 08:54:43
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 20 2008, 08:23 AM) [snapback]463657[/snapback]
You missed out a zero there MJ. To suggest we let a talent like McAllister go for £20 or £30 grand is got to be one of the most ludicrous things I have ever read on these forums.



Are you his agent Spurtle? McAlister huffed and puffed all last season producing, in reality, very little.

He's had 'POTENTIAL' written all over him for four seasons-maybe that'll end up as his epitaph.

He's certainly not going to realise it in the present set up-simple-the only conceivable 'get out' is to sell superman instead, and try Jimbo wide right.

Do you want Shoogly to keep him in a little golden casket marked 'bids please'?
mortonjag 2008-06-20 09:29:20
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 20 2008, 09:21 AM) [snapback]463669[/snapback]
it was all a misunderstanding, mortonjag was banned for a grammatical howler biggrin.gif

amber?
mortonjag 2008-06-20 09:53:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 20 2008, 09:35 AM) [snapback]463678[/snapback]
Is that logical ?

Just because a bloke is wearing a brassiere,
is he automatically a pouf or a pouffe ?
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Could be the chief exec!
mortonjag 2008-06-20 10:03:17


QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 20 2008, 09:17 AM) [snapback]463667[/snapback]
I think you're right. A "Special Forum" reeks of school when the social inadequates who feel the need to feel important and have control. "You're in ma gang" biggrin.gif Social bullying and as you say Delicate Flowers no one will be able to say insensitive things so's not to hurt. Let's go hide from the bad guys. Sounds more like it should be for the under 18's YAWN

It depends very much on your definition of 'social inadequacy'.

I'd suggest that one of the reasons the new forum was mooted was 'social inadequacy' on the part of several contributors to the normal board.

Just my opinion mind.

Rule Gillania.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 13:39:56
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 20 2008, 11:49 AM) [snapback]463728[/snapback]
damning Show phonetics
adjective
describes a report, finding, remark, etc. which is very critical or which shows clearly that someone is wrong, guilty or has behaved very badly:
He made some fairly damning remarks about the government's refusal to deal with the problem.
The two men were convicted on some extremely damning evidence.

I'm not sure why you are tying to educate someone more educated than yourself Dave. Tonsilitis will understand. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-20 13:54:51
QUOTE(Savo @ Jun 20 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]463694[/snapback]
Utter drivel.

No it's NOT drivel Savo-it's my considered opinion. Instead of making daft two word 'put downs' it would be good to hear YOUR reasoning.

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 20 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]463708[/snapback]
That will be why he won various player of the year awards then blink.gif

MJ, if you can't see this is one player who has real talent and could go a long way in this game, then perhaps you should go watch basketball or something.

I can just imagine future posts of yours if Shoogly sold him on to Motherwell, for example, for £20k, and 3 years down the line he is sold on for £2m to some English club.

The longer we can hold onto him the better, but I fear this could be Jims last season with us. And he WON'T go for £20k I can assure you.

Thank God you are not runing the club if that's your thinking..... blink.gif

It's quite simple -McAlister has NOT fulfilled promise-he appears to have loads of potential, but we HAVE to cut our cloth this season, and as I have stated a left winger would be far more cost effective, and his years' wages paid for by the sale of Jimbo.

QUOTE(irvineTON @ Jun 20 2008, 10:46 AM) [snapback]463709[/snapback]
I agree Savo.

Jag, how can u constantly talk up "Leafy" then say these things about a far better player in McAllister? ohmy.gif

And LargsTon has never been able to admit he is 1 of our best players (if not thee best), obviously cos he used to always try & say Stevenson was far better!!! blink.gif

LEAFY has been a disappointment-I've not been 'constantly talking him up', but I've said he'll come good when folk start to supply him properly.

Jimbo and Kev are similar to each other-very effective workhorses, but useless goal scorers, and neither can deliver even a half decent cross on a regular basis.

I'd have been more than happy to see Jimbo tried on the right of midfield-it's just that we're now spoiled for experienced midfielders, so he either warms the bench or plays in his usual left sided ineffective role (in terms of attack).
mortonjag 2008-06-20 14:02:15
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jun 19 2008, 11:40 PM) [snapback]463474[/snapback]
I pop on to the GMST forum occasionally and I'm disappointed that it has now also become infected with yet more of MJ's 'I am the one true voice of the Morton faithful' posturing. Your characterisation of yourself as the simple mouthpiece of 20 guys, some with clout, fighting manfully against the overwhelming forces of darkness smacks just a little of your obsessive need to stroke your ego at every conceivable opportunity.

For what it's worth I wish Tontastic hadn't moved this thread here but the fact that it annoys you and has you stamping your precious little oxygen starved foot almost makes it worthwhile.

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mortonjag 2008-06-20 14:35:48
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 20 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]463784[/snapback]
mellow.gif
Why do you always have to do this? Can't you see that it's comments like that that cause you to be the subject of so many debates.

Why am I doing what.

I deliberately mis-spelled the word. Tonsilitis will understand why, but Tailbearer had to attempt to me a smart arse.

Why do people always try to put the Jag down?

Can't you see that that sort of behaviour inevitably leads to defence on the Jag's part?
mortonjag 2008-06-20 14:40:02
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 20 2008, 02:02 PM) [snapback]463791[/snapback]
He is only 22 years old and hardly the finished article. He had a hard first season the a new division in a team that fought relegation. Give him a chance FFS !
I suppose we will have to agree to disagree on this one.

Time will tell.......

I don't think we're in huge disagreement. Jimbo has a future for sure-we just can't afford to wait for the golden egg.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 14:48:24
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 19 2008, 10:29 PM) [snapback]463355[/snapback]
Bryan physically disadvantaged children can be accomadated in mainstream school but those with severe learning difficulties are totally different .

My son is diagnosed with Autism , he is 4 and goes to Hillend and has one to one support which has really brought him on. He needs a calm enviroment so his education is a really worry .

I read an article where 97% of special needs children who went to mainstream schools are bullied .

I agree entirely. 'Inclusion' was never going to work.

Bryan's correct about disabled kids who can benefit from normal education, but kids with learning difficulties are better educated by specialist teachers in a user friendly environment.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 14:52:15
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jun 20 2008, 11:54 AM) [snapback]463734[/snapback]
laugh.gif
She might not get pregnant but you might find yourself AIDs riddled for the luxury. smile.gif
Remember; oral contraception cannot block STDs!

Lesson for the day cool.gif

Aye it can-just say 'NO'.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 15:01:29
QUOTE(Toby @ Jun 20 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]463720[/snapback]
Is anybody actually going to have the baws to admit to disliking anyone?

I'll admit I cannot stand Piehutt, his closet hun jibes really got on my tits. 888 isn't my favourite person in the world either after his countless public slatings of me followed by private apologies culminating with his pathetic attempt to grab me by the throat at Dens Park.

I wouldn't piss on Tooth and Nail or her mate if they were on fire. Don't have a hell of alot of time for GeacensGenitails either, he just annoys me.

Edit to add: Mortonbug.

The guys I have had the biggest and longest fights with are now 'brand new'. Simple reason-they were arguing about something they believed in.

I've also had quite a few posters pm me with 'what the f*ck do you think you're playing at' type stuff, and invariably we end up with an understandng.

There are only five or six posters whose behaviour makes me want to set fing on them. I'm sure they are very pleasant in real life.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 15:16:30


QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jun 20 2008, 11:15 AM) [snapback]463718[/snapback]
For God's sake DON'T EAT THEM - they're BOUND to disagree with you....... laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-20 17:10:47
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 20 2008, 04:57 PM) [snapback]463868[/snapback]
I assure you, I'm not biggrin.gif


smile.gif


Fing wouldn't waste a nail on you!
mortonjag 2008-06-20 17:20:41
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 20 2008, 03:58 PM) [snapback]463836[/snapback]
My God! Are you serious?

Of course I know you mis-spelled the word. You had a choice though:-

Option 1 :- Explain to DD that you mis-spelled the word on purpose and that Tonsilitis would understand why.
Option 2 :- Put the man down and insult him for his comparative lack of education.

It's no brainer for most people on here but I'm afraid you ALWAYS chose option 2 and then have the audacity to bleat like a spoiled child when someone retaliates.

If you could ditch the intellectual snobbery and petty vindictiveness you might just find that you won’t feel so "put down" anymore and they may even listen to what you have to say.

unsure.gif

QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 20 2008, 04:26 PM) [snapback]463852[/snapback]
More defence needed there MJ...
Real Hoops - the problem is that the Jag perceives himself to be intellectually superior to all on here. If you have not studied Medicine at a proper University then you are obviously so lacking in academic standards that it is a surprise to Jag that you are still able to breath. i just wish I had thought of the old deliberate mis-spelling excuse at my last typo... rolleyes.gif tongue.gif laugh.gif wink.gif

I have three degrees at a proper university-it was NOT an excuse- and most importantly the intellectual superiority is there for all to see. The problem is that lesser creatures cannot cope. I fully understand. If I was in their hooves, I'm sure I'd feel exactly the same. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-20 17:26:13
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 20 2008, 04:54 PM) [snapback]463866[/snapback]
excellent! the place should bve a good laugh then biggrin.gif

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Power corrupts-I can see them banning folk right left and centre for being too polite.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 05:54:47
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jun 20 2008, 05:34 PM) [snapback]463878[/snapback]
Maybe if you addressed the questions to the Club you might get answers. Who on here is in a position to know? blink.gif

For once I agree with you Smiffy. The Club is a the cutting edge of IT advancement.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 06:01:04
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 20 2008, 11:55 PM) [snapback]464084[/snapback]
Are you connected to the club in an official capacity Tonsilitis ?
They ignore my posts as well sad.gif

When I was a young and 'wet behind the ears' doctor, I instinctively defended all things medical. Tonsilitis, it would appear, behaves in the same manner with 'the pennies'. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-21 06:15:28
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 20 2008, 07:38 PM) [snapback]463951[/snapback]
name one player that plays for the full 90 minutes in this league? infact name me one player in the world who plays in Jims position that plays for 90 mins every game? he's not in the centre controlling the game, he's an impact player and when he's not involved in the game offensively you can be sure as hell that he'll be involved in the game defensively. He isn't the complete player, not even close and never will be until he leaves Morton, but he's the best player we've had in years and the only asset that this club has to sell.

we were playing 4-5-1 or 3-6-1 away from home last season, on the backfoot for most of it, for someone out wide to play amazingly the whole game is near on impossible with that system, but he was as excellent as always defensively away from home last season. I remember his Man of the match performance against Dunfermline 2nd game of the season at east end park, he was doing the job of just about everyone else on the park.

As soon as we started to play 3-4-3 last season Jim finally found a position that suited his attacking ability and also still able to chip in with defensive duties, for me its stupid we're even contemplating changing that formation as it worked so well and everyone fitted perfectly into their positions.

PT, my opinion on Jimbo has very little to do with what he's GOOD at. He's useless as a left sided attacking player, we're AGAIN relatively overloaded with midfielders, and there's NO money.

I'd want rid of McGregor, Finlayson, Greacen, and possibly Jamie too, if it's going to be that 'small squad of 'quality' players we were promised.

Promises from the club tend to be a bit like sparklers on November 5th.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 06:26:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 20 2008, 11:02 PM) [snapback]464056[/snapback]
Great post. And just to add, MJ doesn't do names. ...................as I'm sure you will find out. dry.gif



Correct Spurtle-Mortonjag is too busy going to Morton matches-home and away-all season to do any scouting. dry.gif

Mortonjag is also too honest to trawl P & B and shamelessly plagiarise others in order to look 'informed'. dry.gif

Mortonjag's TV licence expired long ago, and he has been unable to watch replays of all last season's SFL matches. dry.gif

I liked the Croatian goalie's kicking and throw outs last night. (Benadette next door invited me in) We need a goalie. Now that they're oot yon cup maybe DI could put in a bid for him in exchange for JIMBO. dry.gif








mortonjag 2008-06-21 06:30:30
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 21 2008, 06:08 AM) [snapback]464188[/snapback]
thought that said ' the penis '
mornin' sunshine smile.gif

Are you calling Tonsilitis a dick?
mortonjag 2008-06-21 06:38:04
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 20 2008, 05:42 PM) [snapback]463882[/snapback]
I don't know who or what Fing is. sad.gif

The little fing on the right of my avatar (as you view it). Do NOT be fooled by the benign expression.

QUOTE(princessTON @ Jun 20 2008, 05:55 PM) [snapback]463885[/snapback]
It's a Monkey.

HE is not a monkey Princess-Munx is the monkey. Fing is a fing and a nail gun assassin par excellence.

Munx and fing are brothers.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 06:40:34
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 20 2008, 09:07 PM) [snapback]463994[/snapback]
bluff

true
mortonjag 2008-06-21 06:53:30
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 20 2008, 07:48 PM) [snapback]463958[/snapback]
having special needs at school my self with using a wheelchair and other things id rather not share in public, i found that with kids like myself that didnt have severe learning difficulties can be served in main stream education. but you are right kids with severe learning difficultiest should be catered for in the right way that meets there needs. and yes i was bullied, and told by specialists that i couldnt cope with uni and i did


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Bryan-forget all the crap I talk about 'proper' Unis, and answer this. I met a bloke a few years ago who wanted to come over here from Toronto to do a post grad course and see Scotland. He was severely physically disabled and wheelchair bound. He applied to Paisly Uni on the strength of their prospectus-came over with his parents-and when he got here discovered that Paisley Uni was FAR from disabled friendly. Indeed he was SO distressed that he could not do the course, that he ended up in hospital after an attempted suicide bid (why I met him). That was six-or at the very most- seven years ago.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 06:59:37
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jun 21 2008, 12:03 AM) [snapback]464090[/snapback]
i see your point bryan , although obviously ive not shared your experiences.
iv came across physically disabled kids in non mainstream education(such as special schools) when its blindingly obvious they have the mental capacity to handle mainstream education

When the disability is purely physical, it may still be advisable in some cases to keep kids out of mainstream education, as anyone perceived 'abnormal' is bullied. Bryan seems to have had the personality to cope. Others would be better in special needs schools.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 07:07:13 I'm a Philistine and don't do arts or cinema.

I rarely watch TV, but two actors who were 'made for the part' were Peter Falk (Columbo) and Leo McKern (Rumpole of the Bailey). They were perpetually as convincing as ex-barrow boy David Jason was never, in 'A touch of Frost'.

Joanna Lumley and Penelope Keith are probably my two favourite females-neither a beauty-both oozing class and talent.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 07:16:06
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 21 2008, 06:38 AM) [snapback]464194[/snapback]
don't put words in my mouth!....dicks on the otherhand...
i should probably go to bed soon.

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mortonjag 2008-06-21 07:23:56 Today is midsummer's day (and my wee grand daughter's third birthday).

I find it hard to believe that the nights are already drawing in and Autumn is just around the corner. I SHOULD have emigrated in my twenties. (No confirmation required thank you. mad.gif )

If you had one dream for something that could come true in the next year-what would it be?

Mine-I DO have one, but I'm too scared to say! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-21 07:47:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 21 2008, 07:36 AM) [snapback]464204[/snapback]
start by buying me dinner and we'll see where it goes wink.gif

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Deeglet will be miffed.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 08:08:22
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 18 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]462039[/snapback]
funny how a thread actually about Morton gets about 4 replies, if you'd said Mortonjag had said greacen was out for 4 weeks it'd have been at 18 pages by now.
we have three, hopefully four centrebacks just now so not too worried about this, only problem is a lack of pre season might seriously wreck Stuarts season.

Nobody really seems to give a toss about poor big Stu. I wonder why? blink.gif

QUOTE(Malt @ Jun 18 2008, 05:06 PM) [snapback]462045[/snapback]
Alex Walker, David McGregor are also cover for the full back position as well as Harding, Greacen, McMannus and poss Innes. We are covered.

We should be SIGNING full backs!

QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 18 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]462068[/snapback]
I love your signature. Change the word politicians to posters and you could be referring to you know who!!

The 'sarky' wee digs get worse from our vastly experienced professional who at all times maintains impeccable standards in all walks of life. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 19 2008, 08:31 AM) [snapback]462670[/snapback]
if you'd said Mortonjag had said greacen was out for 4 weeks

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Is Mortonjag the Ton's honorary medical officer ?

Indeed he is, and is happy to announce that Cappie has had a successful tail graft, Crawford's RSI is responding to firm strapping and oestrogen injections, Andy Bryan's laser vision correction has been hampered by lack of money, and Gilian Donaldson has stopped smoking cigarettes










































and taken up the pipe.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 08:13:48
QUOTE(Kaney @ Jun 21 2008, 07:53 AM) [snapback]464206[/snapback]
Ye can dream of lottery wins and whatever. But above all else youve got to wish for your own, and your families health.

Something people take for granted until illness strikes.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 08:41:07
QUOTE(Tooth & Nail @ Jun 21 2008, 08:18 AM) [snapback]464209[/snapback]
Nice to have some support on here biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Claire-if you want to go up in the popularity stakes, I'd get some beauty therapy done,and have your avatar picture taken from a different angle. It makes you look like a boy.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 08:45:32
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 21 2008, 08:20 AM) [snapback]464210[/snapback]
I have not had any dreams about you MJ. Had a few nightmares though laugh.gif

Anyway, I'm away to Bannockburn today to hear Mr Salmond wink.gif

mellow.gif That is SERIOUSLY worrying Spurtle-you know something, and it pains me to say it, I'd rather give Shoogly a big cuddle.

QUOTE(Kaney @ Jun 21 2008, 08:22 AM) [snapback]464211[/snapback]
Not me. I worry about people around me all the time. I worry about death myself quite alot actually.
I might need some professional help sometime soon..

Pre-occupation with illness and death is indeed an illness in itself.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 09:00:58
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 20 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]463976[/snapback]
Can the mods ensure that the new forum will be bum bandit free? unsure.gif

Oh, aye, petite ginger rentier free would be really good too. ohmy.gif

Au contraire M.Le Bam-it will be the first time we have a level playing field-I look forward to this with some relish!



QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 21 2008, 12:01 AM) [snapback]464089[/snapback]
right everyone, its time to play guess the password! tongue.gif



LE POUFFE CELEBRE
mortonjag 2008-06-21 09:07:46
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 21 2008, 08:55 AM) [snapback]464219[/snapback]
It's the SNP's annual Bannockburn Rally to commemorate the Battle of Bannockburn.

.....and says everything that's wrong about Salmond's leadership.

Is he taking Scotland towards 'informed' independence by celebrating a rammy that occurred almost 700 years ago.

Effin liability.

Is Soapy going?
mortonjag 2008-06-21 09:11:52 post not found
mortonjag 2008-06-21 10:00:18
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 21 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]464227[/snapback]
I take it it's wrong to have Remembrance Day/Poppy Day as well ?

And it's not "celebrating" it's commemorating


Spurtle-sometimes I could kiss you for your innocence!

The attempts by Germany to dominate Europe in the 20th century are fresh enough in the minds of many living Britons-a few even re-call the First World War. I'm happy to commemorate the bravery of our forces-indeed even to celebrate Hitler's humping.

Celebrating Bannockburn 700 years on is merely fodder for quasi Nationalist paranoia.

Commemoration! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

How I remember my uncle Hamish McBroadsword-he fought at Bannockburn you know. Used to have his daily punt, and a pint in the Jimmy Watt until he died of his war wounds last September.





Commemoration
QUOTE(Kaney @ Jun 21 2008, 09:35 AM) [snapback]464229[/snapback]
Dying*(?) sucks ass. I wish some crazy scientist mob would learn how to save us all. Id pay plenty aswell.
I proper sh*t it sometimes..
* I have no idea how that word is spelled.

I get confused with that one, and also with lying. You spelled it correctly.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 10:01:51
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 21 2008, 09:53 AM) [snapback]464232[/snapback]
That's easy. You will be "taken out" with a .22 rifle from the grassy knoll on the Sinclair St carpark by one of shooglies hit men.

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If you'd omitted the 'Shoogly' bit I might have been feart.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 10:04:52
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 21 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]464233[/snapback]
What makes you say that?

Nothing-I typed it.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 12:43:27
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 21 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]464260[/snapback]
Sorry Chris, I was just getting a bit wound up and should have replied to your post

Firstly, I am not connected to the club except that I have a number of people I well who are. Usually I do reply and I apologise for not having done so earlier.

In regard to the share issue, I agree that potential investors should know who the directors are but this is not a public placing - it can't be as Morton are a private company - so I doubt if many of the investors this time round don't know Alistair Donald's position. I am not a shareholder and am therefore not privy to what has gone on but all that I am pointing out is that either there may be a good reason why he is not yet registered at Companies House or, if it is a c*** up, its the sort of thing that happens all the time in UK companies. Its a minor oversight that does not carry any great consequence.
As far as the investors go, Mr Donald himself will be taking a large slice of the new issue and Golden Casket the bulk of the rest although there are some new investors. I would suggest that anyone investing in the club will know what the position is.

With regard to season ticket scams, my enquiries of the club suggest its not as big a problem as is being made out by the hearsay evidence on this board. Sure, it should not happen at all but if people start out to steal from you, its hard to be absolutely watertight. You could easily spend more on securing these things than the return you would get - there is a balance to be found. What was a problem was people who were purportedly unemployed getting season tickets and then turning out to be in work or gaining employment shortly after. I'm not sure I agree with it but thats why they stopped the concession season tickets.

On the club's annual losses, we lose about the average for clubs in the second tier of Scottish football. The only way to make money in the first division is to have facilities which can produce an income other than on match Saturdays - St Johnstone are the best example of that - or to have a decent cup run - again St Johnstone and QoS are good examples. Alternatively you can go part time which almost certainly would consign the team in question to the second division. We are being funded by Golden Casket at present. Their plan to get us profitable is to get us into the SPL but they can't do it all at once. Hence the push to bring Cappielow to SPL standards and go for a smaller but more capable squad. Other things which we would like to have just have to wait and the youth system is, I'm afraid one of those. Again thats not how I would have set my priorities but the board are running with theirs and thats how it is.

Finally, don't confuse the upgrqading costs with the amount to be raised in share issues. The share issue cost may only part of the rebuild cost. The rest might be borrowed for example, especially if the new facilities have the scope to provide extra income for the club - I don't know!

In an ideal world we would at least break even but with the present facilities and if we are to have a team that can compete for promotion, its very difficult at least in the short/medium term. Get to the SPL and sustain a place there and maybe we can achieve stability. At least the way things are structured at present we are funded by share capital and have next to no external borrowings.



You seem to be saying that Mr Donald will be taking up many shares, while 'not being privy to what's going on'. Can you CONFIRM that Mr Donald is an executive director, who WILL be taking up the majority of the shares?

Other than that you have done nothing but trot out excuses, and theories.

If you don't have a clue (which I believe to be the case), would you not have been better keeping your mouth shut instead of confusing folk with what sounds like a whole load of flannel?

I know you are an experienced accountant-the rest of the regular readers do too. I'd trust you implicitly with advice on financial affairs just as I'd hope you'd take my advice on things medical.

What I find annoying about your stance on this (and on previous issues too) is that you appear to have an astonishing faith in 'the establishment', and to resent questions being asked. What is wrong with wanting to know the truth? Why do you dismissively talk about Morton being a 'Private Company'? That's hardly the revelation of the century, though I'd suggest 'secret society' might be more appropriate.

In the past couple of months there has been plenty of evidence to suggest that the running of Greenock Morton is nothing short of a shambles. You choose to believe that all is well, and defend the club at every turn. That is your prerogative. Others are entitled to think differently.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 12:53:16
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 21 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]464254[/snapback]
Thanks for dodging the question, seems to be your trademark these days old yin. rolleyes.gif

I answered the question my child.


I typed the question because I wanted an answer. So far I've had one.

I'd happily keep Stu too, but only in a bigger squad. Given the current constraints, allied to the signings we've made, I believe it is utter lunacy to have committed ourselves to a relatively long contract with a player yet unproven at first division level.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 13:11:57

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 21 2008, 10:54 AM) [snapback]464255[/snapback]
Lest we forget Tom wink.gif

Anyway, must dash, don't want to miss the start of our great leader Alex Salmonds' speech tongue.gif



Coming in gallons and your kilt at the sight of that embarrassment, is sad, Spurtle.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 13:20:49

QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 21 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]464271[/snapback]
Don't get me wrong Johnny Boy, I wish you and Boozie all the best and I truly hope it succeeds, and I'm sure if it doesn't it won't be through any lack of effort, dedication and good-will on the part of either of you.

But one prominent member has already indicated I should be barred and another has made it clear he is going to use it as a tool to settle old scores. So from that at least it doesn't seem like it's going to turn out the way you hope and predict.

I genuinely hope I'm wrong though and wish you all the best, but it's clearly not for me.

Good luck to you and Boozie.

Conscience doth make cowards of us all.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 13:40:17 In terms of savings to the health service, it's a great idea.

In terms of practicality it's unworkable.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 14:16:14
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 21 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]464305[/snapback]
so if i'm reading this right, this is happening because scott gillan didn't like being called a poofter? or is it because the mods are hoping mentaljag goes and plays in another sandpit?

obviously the latter. this is a novel solution to the problem - get the mj fan club all together in the same pen and hope the arse-licking tickles his ego along with his bangle to the extent where he doesn't want to leave and f*** up the other boards.

sound.

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mortonjag 2008-06-21 14:18:12
QUOTE(Toby @ Jun 21 2008, 02:01 PM) [snapback]464309[/snapback]
NewTon emigrated years ago and still manages to do my tits in. I doubt it would make any difference.

NewTon is misunderstood.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 14:23:57
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 21 2008, 02:16 PM) [snapback]464312[/snapback]
its one of the better ones with been all his classes in the campus, its flatish, has lifts etc, but he would have been better where he was or in the states as they are light years ahead of us for being disabled friendly.

I seem to remember now that the problem WAS with the absence of lifts-which obviously would refer to the course he'd chosen, and as I said it was a few years back. He was already a graduate from a Uni in Canada, and his Dad had to come over here for a year because of his job, so the family thought it was a good idea. Anyway he could hump me at scrabble! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-21 14:32:10
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 21 2008, 02:20 PM) [snapback]464314[/snapback]
FFS hurry up and open the new forum, how long does it take three poofters to set it all up.

Its not rocket science blink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-21 14:34:57
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 21 2008, 02:30 PM) [snapback]464318[/snapback]
there was only 4 bits that werent accessable but you could get in most areas even if you took the long way. but it is one of the better ons its just a shame the goverment hasnt got the balls to enforce access for all.

It's coming gradually-unfortunately the real problem is the old one-money.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 14:45:00 That's the sort of entirely reasonable presentation I'd always expected of you! wink.gif

Just one thing I still take issue with, and it's central to this thread.

Why should I have to apply for shares before I can find out whether or not Mr Donald is indeed a director of the club?

I'm still extremely puzzled as to why Companies House has updated information on Mr Montford and Mr Brown, while failing to incorporate the third change in the composition of the Board which occurred at the same time.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 14:53:19
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Jun 21 2008, 02:35 PM) [snapback]464323[/snapback]
Have to say, I agree with MJ on this one - it'll be open to all sorts of abuse. While we're at it, why don't we give an extra allowance to homeless people who have dogs- -oh, i forgot, we do that already!

Really-that's a new one on me-I bet the soap dodgers are claiming for f*ckin' Rotweilers when they've only got a Bichon Frise.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 15:21:41
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 21 2008, 03:00 PM) [snapback]464331[/snapback]
So if I lived in Dundee, if I started smoking I would recieve money?




Smokers in deprived communities are to be paid £12.50 a week to encourage them to quit the habit.

The initiative is to be tried in Dundee and if successful will be rolled out across the country.

It follows the major success of a similar scheme "Give it up for Baby" in which pregnant women in the city were offered financial incentives to encourage them to stop smoking. That resulted in the numbers quitting rising sevenfold in the first year and this year a 15-fold increase is expected.


The new £500,000 initiative is being funded jointly by NHS Tayside, Dundee City Council and the Scottish Government.

The aim is to tackle the circumstances of smokers living in poorer communities which can often act as barriers to giving up. Under the scheme, which will be open to 18,000 smokers in Dundee, participants who stop smoking will be given £12.50 per week for three months, credited on to an electronic card. They can redeem the card in their local supermarket for fresh food and groceries, excluding alcohol and cigarettes.

They will receive nicotine replacement therapy through their pharmacy where they have to undertake a weekly carbon monoxide breath test.

It is expected 1800 smokers might sign up and around half of them would be expected to achieve success and be entitled to the £50 a month. The participants will also benefit from social support from Dundee Healthy Living Initiative including cessation help, physical activity and other lifestyle advice.

Sandy Watson, chairman of NHS Tayside, said: "Last year the Scottish Government challenged NHS Tayside to address smoking in disadvantaged areas. This project seeks to deliver on that and if successful could be replicated nationally.

"Smoking in Dundee is a difficult problem to tackle but we are hopeful that this innovative approach will encourage smokers to stop smoking for good and therefore make a real difference to their long-term health."

Paul Ballard, deputy director of public health, NHS Tayside, said: "There are 36,000 smokers in Dundee, half of whom live in poverty. Although current smoking cessation services are working well, because of the complexities of poverty and health we know we need to do more to tackle this. We will always work with local communities to find ways to help them make changes to their health behaviour."

He added: "The whole thrust of this approach is trying to level the playing field for deprived communities.

"We are trying to give them an incentive which is meaningful."

The move was welcomed by Sheila Duffy, chief executive of Action Smoking on Health Scotland.

She said:"Quitting smoking is hard and any positive way to encourage and support people to give up cigarettes is to be welcomed
mortonjag 2008-06-21 15:32:21 No problem Nick , don't get so uptight , it is because of your expertise as an accountant that your opinion is scrutinised .

I can see the hidden benefit of not owing money to an external creditor which has been the downfall of far bigger clubs than ourselves .

Its far from a hidden benefit Chris. Its all about giving strength to our balance sheet. Plus share capital does not have to be repaid. The only way for Golden Casket to get some or all of their money back would be to sell the company.

If Alistair Donald is to to become a major investor then I feel that it would build confidence amongst the support that if for some reason DDFR could no longer continue propping the club to the present level we may have a safety net in AD .

I agree and I expect it to happen.


My worry about the current dilemma about the Direct Debit issue is the club seem to be reluctant to admit problems publicly , whether they intend to look at the matter without actually drawing attention to the issue then that is understandable . However is the problem is ongoing I think it would disappoint the majority of supporters.

According to my sources in the club, it is not a big issue. If you read what people have said on here, the reverse is true. Who do you believe? I have just pointed out that the club don't think its a big issue but as usual, the messenger gets shot!

My only concern about not renewing ub40 season tickets are there are fans amongst us who have disabilities of some kind and while they are eligible to pay into the concession gate these are usually popular so if the club could make a concession for what is a small number of individuals I would be in favour of that move allowing easier access for certain individuals .

I agree that the issue with UB40/disable concessions seems a bit mean to me. On the other hand, they still have a concessionary price at the gate on production of a UB40. I do think though that disabled people should continue to get concessions and not doing so is mean and not the best PR for the club.
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So-far from thinking that Mr Donald has 'disappeared' you believe he's lurking in the wings until Auld Shoogly retires laugh.gif /sells up for a non-ridiculous price laugh.gif / pops his clogs?
mortonjag 2008-06-21 15:46:03 It always seems to be the other way around-who's your favourite poster and why?



I like a lot of different posters for a variety of reasons, and my favourite tends to vary from time to time.

Mortonjag's poster of the moment is port-ton, because he's intelligent, with a ridiculous sense of humour, is fearless, irrepressible, and mature beyond his years, lives in the Port, and regularly kisses my bangle.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 15:49:31
QUOTE(Savo @ Jun 21 2008, 03:45 PM) [snapback]464336[/snapback]
For my part, I'm not sure there is the pronounced difference LT. I'd say latterly we were getting the ball to Kevin very often (when he enjoyed a wee confidence surge) but I wouldn't agree that he was as prominent an option as that earlier in the season (maybe the 4-2 home win v Thistle aside).

Where I do agree is your point that we need to make sure we feed Jim much more than at times last season.

That's a fair point-I thought he looked quite haggard by the end of the season.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 15:52:01
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 21 2008, 03:48 PM) [snapback]464338[/snapback]
Hey, I thought you loved me? sad.gif

This thread's not about Mortonjag's lovers dearie. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-21 16:16:07
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 21 2008, 08:55 AM) [snapback]464219[/snapback]
It's the SNP's annual Bannockburn Rally to commemorate the Battle of Bannockburn.
[/quoteIm working today so will sadly miss this years sad.gif sad.gif

Spurtle will be unimpressed.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 16:28:41
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Jun 21 2008, 04:15 PM) [snapback]464346[/snapback]
....and after 14 pages no one is any the wiser if the elusive Alistair Donald is on the Morton F.C. Board of Directors !

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For quite a while I was getting a bit suspicious-paranoid even-about this. That was daft.

Now it's as clear as day! The Tilly just ran the story as a space filler-they knew that Mr Fitzgerald was for the offski anyway-and Shoogly needed to deflect attention from our dire form at the time, so it suited him too.

See-it all fits perfectly-not the first time a Provincial Rag has done this sort of thing, and won't be the last.

Mr Donald, it seems, is not, was not, and never will be a Director of Morton Football Cub.

SIMPLE REALLY

mortonjag 2008-06-21 16:32:05
QUOTE(dazed @ Jun 21 2008, 04:16 PM) [snapback]464348[/snapback]
I dont know if anybody on the board dis-likes me or not, and to be honest lifes to short to be bothered.

Mortonjag agrees with this.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 16:35:58
QUOTE(dazed @ Jun 21 2008, 04:18 PM) [snapback]464349[/snapback]
Spurtle will be unimpressed.
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Im gutted I dont miss many of them.....ah well there is always next year

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What do they do apart from all the happy clappy 'we hate them inglish c*nts' stuff, and getting legless on Glenfiddich before the speeches start?
mortonjag 2008-06-21 16:39:35
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Jun 21 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]464354[/snapback]
She should have been locked up for her latest escapade on board an aircraft and I'd suggest her comments actually make her a racist herself.
As three police officers arrived to escort her off the plane Campbell seemed to "completely lose control", the court heard. As they dragged Campbell off the plane, she yelled: "It is because I am a black woman? You are all racists. I am going to sue you. I am going to f*** you." When a female officer ignored her, she yelled: "You blonde bitch. Answer me, answer me."

Had someone upset her or was she just pissed?
mortonjag 2008-06-21 17:00:29
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jun 21 2008, 04:58 PM) [snapback]464361[/snapback]
I just want us to sign someone. I'm bored.

I see the Midden have had a bid for James McPake turned down! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-21 17:03:40
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 21 2008, 04:39 PM) [snapback]464356[/snapback]
Horrible, horrible specimen. Needs locked away for her own good.



Have you met her? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-21 17:13:17
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 21 2008, 05:09 PM) [snapback]464364[/snapback]
Haha. That's on a par with Michelle McManus giving you a knock back for a blow-job.

That is unkind
mortonjag 2008-06-21 17:40:56
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Jun 21 2008, 05:15 PM) [snapback]464368[/snapback]
That's quite a claim. Time will tell I suppose.

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I don't want to be accused of misrepresenting the truth-it's not a claim-it's merely a hunch.

For all I know Mr Donald and Shoogly may be shaking hands on the buyout as I type.

In fact, that makes perfect sense-normally at this time of year he's shouting about 'not being bullied into signing players' and 'don't you think those boys deserve the chance to take us backwards' and stuff, yet he's been singularly quiet.

Mr Donald may be on the brink of buying out Shoogly.

SIMPLE REALLY
mortonjag 2008-06-21 17:50:51
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 21 2008, 05:25 PM) [snapback]464371[/snapback]
No, but have actually witnessed one of her many 'strops'.

Hmm-and that led you to conclude that she is a 'horrible, horrible specimen'.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 18:04:23
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 21 2008, 05:17 PM) [snapback]464370[/snapback]
For a battle that commemorates the killing of thousands of English soldiers that would be odd.

The battle of Kosovo was commemorated in Serbia, despite it being 700 years previous.
The patriotic assassination triggered the First World War.

So Gordy's oot the windae?
mortonjag 2008-06-21 18:07:21
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 21 2008, 06:03 PM) [snapback]464385[/snapback]
Her Sky News interview today was reprehensible, she is a complete reptile.

Says that someone on the plane called her a "golliwog model".

She should be ashamed. And jailed.

TonInDublin

Robertson's jam BOOM and Golden Shred.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 18:14:15
QUOTE(Savo @ Jun 21 2008, 06:09 PM) [snapback]464388[/snapback]
Does anyone know if this statement was ever put up on the website? It isn't on the list under the Chairman's section, but when you read the Erik Paartalu item and click the 'next' button, up it pops huh.gif It also seems to stop mid-sentence, and the bit about Nails has a spelling mistake.

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...so you actually think........ blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-21 18:16:41
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 21 2008, 06:11 PM) [snapback]464389[/snapback]
Is that an offer? wub.gif

Did he jump or was he pished! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-21 18:20:44
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 21 2008, 06:12 PM) [snapback]464390[/snapback]
Is sniffing a white powder on a plane a crime? rolleyes.gif

No more than sniffing a black powder on a surform.


By Golly she's rude.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 22:30:36
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jun 21 2008, 10:20 PM) [snapback]464461[/snapback]
Not quite correct Danny as I think I confirmed unequivocally that Mr Donald is still a non-executive Director of GMFC Ltd. smile.gif

laugh.gif Along with Mickey Mouse and the Tooth Fairy-executive/non-executive not registered with Companies House after almost six months and we're to be reassured by itchy baws! wacko.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif

QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jun 21 2008, 10:22 PM) [snapback]464463[/snapback]
What a stupid post. Of course the Club CEO will know. blink.gif

What a ridiculous comment-why should anybody at Cappielow (except 'Yer Man') suddenly be presumed to 'know' anything?
mortonjag 2008-06-22 06:08:32 The easy solution is to watch with the volume off. It's one of the few advantages of being deaf. I don't know what his name is, but one of those clots does a very good imitation of Starchy McPherson every time a half chance whizzes yards wide of the goal. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

Sometimes I just go through to the kitchen and listen on five live instead. Lets me get on with my knitting at the same time.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 06:27:42
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 19 2008, 05:45 PM) [snapback]463089[/snapback]
let someone unbiased decide, im pretty sure that given the half the chance many people would just disallow MJ. just use the mod validation mainly so you can find out if they are 18+ not based on how opinionated they are in other forums

MJ can't wait for this forum-freedom from the primary two mentality where the teacher is growing overweight on Granny Smiths and the pets grow more inventive by the day.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 06:44:30 I'm surprised nobody picked up on this yesterday. One of the tabloids ran an article about Scottish Referees wanting to go full time-that's a debate in itself.

What caught my eye was the emetic mug shot of Craig the Liar Lawyer, Thomson, with the poor soul BEMOANING the fact that he had to take UNPAID LEAVE to officiate at the Euro Championships.

I thought they would at least get a couple of Euros for that task-I mean they get £600 for an SPL match, or indeed that the honour itself might be worth something to a man of substance, but Craigy boy, it would appear, wants more.

We never got an answer to the disallowed goal at Hamilton. The SFA said it was being investigated, and declines to say more.

If Mr Thomson is indeed so desperate for money as the article suggests, one can't help wondering again about the real reason for that disallowed goal. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-22 06:49:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2008, 06:34 AM) [snapback]464548[/snapback]
Two bowling teams, one of all blondes and one of all brunettes, charter a double-decker bus for a weekend bowling tournament.

The brunette team rides in the bottom of the bus and the blonde team rides on the top level.

The brunette team down below is whooping it up having a great time, when one of them realizes she doesn't hear anything from the blondes upstairs, so she decides to go up and investigate.


When the brunette reaches the top, she finds all the blondes frozen in fear, staring straight ahead at the road and clutching the seats in front of them. They all have white knuckles.


The brunette asks, "What the heck's goin' on up here? We're having a great time downstairs!"


One of the blondes looks up and says to her, "Yeah, but you've got a driver!"


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Careful newt-some of our posters may be blonde-those days one must use ones mirrors with great care when posting.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 06:53:20
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2008, 06:45 AM) [snapback]464550[/snapback]

I take it no 9 in the faded red tee shirt one it. She sure is one ugly fat bitch.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 06:56:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2008, 06:53 AM) [snapback]464552[/snapback]
Wot the heck - a blonde joke with THE word - **** !!
A brunette, a redhead and a blonde walk down a beach when suddenly the brunette discovers a magic lamp.

The brunette rubs the lamp and P O O F ! a magic genie appears.

The genie tells the girls that he will grant them three wishes, so each girl will have a turn.

The redhead goes first and tells the genie that she's always been really smart and she is sick of being teased, so she asks the genie to make her just semi-smart. Suddenly the redhead is turned into a brunette.

Next, the brunette takes her turn. She tells the genie that she has always just been sort of smart and she wants to be really smart. Suddenly the brunette becomes a redhead.

Finally, it's the blonde's turn.

She thinks for a minute and then tells the genie that she's always been dumb and she's tired of being dumb.

The blonde says that she wants to be really dumb.

Suddenly, the blonde becomes a man!

You were well warned.

Cheerio, cheerio, cheerio! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-22 07:01:52 That's not an ugly dog at all-it's a dog making itself look ugly-which is different. Women have been practising the art from time immemorial.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 07:05:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2008, 07:00 AM) [snapback]464556[/snapback]
Don't all genies' magic lamps go P O O F ???

I've only ever known one genie and her lamps were certainly magic. Maybe they would have gone P O O F if I'd had the chance to rub them.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 07:09:24
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2008, 07:05 AM) [snapback]464558[/snapback]
http://www.welaf.com/vc_gallery/ugly+women/
take your pick ... and shovel.

The baker's daughter by a country mile I'd say, but remember, the beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 07:14:07
QUOTE(big B @ Jun 22 2008, 07:11 AM) [snapback]464561[/snapback]
I thought by now somebody would have posted we should sign him tongue.gif

That would sure cause a racket.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 07:32:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2008, 07:16 AM) [snapback]464563[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Jun 22 2008, 06:11 PM) [snapback]464561[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I thought by now somebody would have posted we should sign him tongue.gif
Is he not the same Andrei Arshavin, who played for Zenit St Petersburg agaisnt the Huns ?

is he a different one ?

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They use different balls.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 08:58:46
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2008, 08:49 AM) [snapback]464580[/snapback]
Surely teachers don't receive Granny Smiths in 2008.

Would not something more modern such as a Cripps Pink, a Pink Lady, a Cripps Red, Sundowner or a Bonza be more likely ?

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CRAB apples more like.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 09:07:18 Woody?

'Shooting brake', we used to call them in the days when men and boys could easily be differentiated and respect was not just a word.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 09:11:32
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Jun 22 2008, 08:26 AM) [snapback]464574[/snapback]
Arse-shaven.




ARSE HAVEN


Maison du pouffe celebre.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 09:17:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]464582[/snapback]
A three-legged, one-eyed, almost hairless Chinese crested pedigree mutt named Gus has been crowned the world's ugliest dog.

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And he STILL has more legs than Shoogly, more hair than midTONs, and more eyes than a new potato.

Furthermore he has a PEDIGREE-more than can be said for those three.

I think Gus is a great wee guy.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 09:21:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2008, 09:12 AM) [snapback]464587[/snapback]
Not quite correct, old mate.

A shooting brake did not need to be a woody.
http://www.oldwoodies.com/gallery-shootingbrakes.htm



I sit corrected!

Morris 1000 Traveller-great wee shooting brake or was it the first 'estate car'?
mortonjag 2008-06-22 09:23:48
QUOTE(Kaney @ Jun 22 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]464589[/snapback]
I could probably have won that competition with a photo of my willy.




I would have been disqualified.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 09:43:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2008, 09:29 AM) [snapback]464595[/snapback]

Not enough space in the back to be a true 'estate' as we now think of them!
mortonjag 2008-06-22 09:45:45
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2008, 09:34 AM) [snapback]464596[/snapback]
Can we expect an ugly willie contest in the new forum ??

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Oh I'm sure we'll have hunners of ugly pouffe willies
mortonjag 2008-06-22 09:47:23
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jun 22 2008, 09:36 AM) [snapback]464597[/snapback]
Or why not try arse-a-vin?

the perfect accompanyment to coq-a-vin.

------

Back on topic, he was exceptional last night (and not for the first time this tournament).

Archie Knox described playing in the "hole" as the "position of no responsibility", Arshavin has been the fulcrum of that team; the absolute driving force. Not only is he a joy to watch, everytime he touches the ball he reinforces my belief that Knox is a clueless gimp.

...and keech Lorraine.

Back to topic-does anybody else want to see jumped up brat and Mummy's little darling Murray well and truly humped?

Surely even Spurtle must acknowledge that he's already a 'BRITISH' player! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-22 09:51:59
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 22 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]464598[/snapback]
ohmy.gif one has confidential evidence, i presume?

F*ck off Alistair.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 09:54:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2008, 09:51 AM) [snapback]464605[/snapback]
hunners of ugly pouffe willies do not a contest make.

They may contest the term pouffe
mortonjag 2008-06-22 11:25:16
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 22 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]464613[/snapback]
He's being a wee, well a BIG bit economical with the truth MJ.

He might have needed to take unpaid leave from his job - probably used all his holidays already or suchlike - but he will not be out of pocket I can tell you !!!! We have three FAI eircom League officials in our branch, and one of them has completed extra training and FIFA tutelage to specialise as an Assistant Referee. He is one of the top 12 assistants on FIFAs books and is called in for a lot of major games - he's done a ganzie load of champions league and internationals.

Anyway - they fly business class, are kitted out from everything to suit/shirt/tie/shoes all the way through to the watch. Boots and FIFA referee's gear go without saying. And they are paid handsomely for it.

As an example - I have done a couple of Eircom League pre-season friendlies - referee's fee is €270.

The fees rise for formal Eircom League matches, and when you start getting to European/FIFA games you don't go short of a bob or two. All expenses are also incremental - hotel bills, meals etc. They also get nice "wee" presents from the home clubs - "wee" being an engraved Rolex he got as assistant in a fairly bog standard European match involving a Greek and a Ukraine team ! Not three bad !

So don't get too upset over his predicament MJ - he'll be alright

TonInDublin

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QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 22 2008, 11:08 AM) [snapback]464628[/snapback]
tut-tut rolleyes.gif

so what was craig thomson actually quoted as saying in the article?

I can't exactly recall Alistair-something about bailiffs and his children needing new shoes I seem to remember.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 11:27:48
QUOTE(C B @ Jun 22 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]464631[/snapback]
blink.gif WOT? He was a hard b*****d !
Weediest has to be Michael Gardyne for me !

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mortonjag 2008-06-22 15:04:25
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 22 2008, 01:03 PM) [snapback]464670[/snapback]
[b]According to my sources in the club, it is not a big issue. If you read what people have said on here, the reverse is true. Who do you believe? I have just pointed out that the club don't think its a big issue but as usual, the messenger gets shot![/b]

Nick ,
No matter how small the club believe the problem is it should still be able to stop mistakes or fraud to a greater degree .

I take it all stand season tickets are allocated a seat so season books must be numbered any DD payment could be checked to ensure payment made . Even opening the season ticket gate in the ground with a checklist of those who are not paying for whatever reason . I think it is testament to the lax attitude that they don't see it as a big problem . There does not seem to be any big problems at Cappielow except for the small number of those who like nothing better than a good old moan.

They would say that-wouldn't they? Those who wish to be reassured will be reassured. Those who wish to know the truth won't.

QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Jun 22 2008, 01:42 PM) [snapback]464685[/snapback]
To Mabawza - Surely if Mr Donald is listed a director of Morton Football Club in any capacity whatsoever, whether it be co-opted, executive or non-executive, I would assume he would be listed at Companies House.

I didn't become embroiled in this debate until quite a number of fans started to question his involvement and possible investment in our club.

There is no trace of Mr Donald in any reports on the official website and he failed to send an apology to the recent e.g.m. (which either shows a complete contempt to shareholders or suggests he is NOT a director of the club).

So is he, or is he not, a director of Morton F.C. ?

And that remains THE legitimate question.

Until somebody comes up with proof-for example an official listing at Companies House in compliance with the LAW, the legitimate question will continue to be asked.

Those who just want everything to be in order should not, IMO, be attempting to muffle the enquirers.

QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 22 2008, 02:05 PM) [snapback]464698[/snapback]
I understand you are the messenger in this case and your information has come from sources at the club but I think you are being guilty like a lot of Morton fans on here that don't want to believe their is lots of avoidable failings going on at the club.

Although I have no doubt the club will look into the season ticket scam, I believe they will bearly scratch the surface. They will not do it as thoroughly as they should/could because they do genuinely believe that it's not as big a problem as it really is.
Unless the laws of probability are way way out here and people are telling me and have been telling me lies I believe the problem is far worse than anyone at the club could imagine and this has been going of for at least 4 years now, I've heard (aye ok it's hearsay).

I actually would expect snide comments from club employees like I got one for free and so did he & she thats the list up to 15 now as it would just show the contempt within the club for what is a serious problem for a club the size of Morton.

Another example of the club burying its head in the sand.

It appears to me to be more another example of the club resenting any form of scrutiny, however justified.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 15:08:10
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Jun 22 2008, 01:51 PM) [snapback]464693[/snapback]
Fantastic idea. Not because I'll use it - because I won't, but it could keep all the twats in one place. biggrin.gif

Are you thinking of anybody in particular?
mortonjag 2008-06-22 15:18:24
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 22 2008, 12:18 PM) [snapback]464650[/snapback]
It's there and it's basically available, but as TiD points out we're just finalising the details on entry etc (and a mod rank for those two)

I'm also looking into buying the licence for the software the forum runs on, which will hopefully open the door to some new features, both from a front and back end perspective (oo-er). In particular the swear filter seems to be global, i.e. one list applies to the entire forum and all it's contents, and I'd like to fix that for the JVTC forum.

Any chance you could clarify who owns what, and who's in charge of what Mod?

Tontastic's always talking about the server-I presume that's a bit of equipment which anybody could purchase.

Do you just buy a server and start an unofficial forum using software which you are licensed to use?

Thanking you ever so politely in advance. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-22 15:22:27
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 22 2008, 11:42 AM) [snapback]464640[/snapback]
thought so

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mortonjag 2008-06-22 16:11:18
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 22 2008, 03:49 PM) [snapback]464745[/snapback]
tontastic owns the server that hosts the forum, and this is a voluntary service which he generously provides free of charge.

I am essentially "in charge" as selected by the previous head moderator nach0king, and the moderator duties are shared between myself, tontastic and Bryan (when he can be bothered!) with the final say being mine on all issues...if indeed I feel 'my say' is necessary.

ThornTon looks after the MoTM area, Bobo looks after the supporters club area, and TiD and Boozie will look after the new forum. Those with responsibility for individual areas have responsibility of those areas only and can't perform general mod duties elsewhere.]

And there's obviously some self-policing going on as well...


Many thanks-and here was me thinking Bryan was a fastidious chap! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-22 16:47:10
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 22 2008, 04:19 PM) [snapback]464754[/snapback]
Sorry - can't be arsed reading all of this material (although the answer to my question might be there) My question is
- Why are you asking this on an unofficial message board ? 1/If you are a shareholder, write to the club. I apologise if you have done and not received a reply. 2/If you are a trust member surely Jim McColl would be in a postion to help (If not, why not ?) Perhaps if this thread reaches 500 pages ( and MJ will attend to that side of things rolleyes.gif ) you may get an answer on here , otherwise check with the organ grinders (and leave the monkey out of it)

Cloth ears-I've been missing you my old friend. You could, of course, have read the thread-skim reading would only have taken a couple of hours, but to save you the bother, let me fill you in.

Point 1/ The club has stated that Mr Donald is a director-he appears on the official match day programme as a director. David Irons mentioned 'Alistair Donald and The Board' in his radio interview after the last match of the season. It would surely be safe to assume that Mr Donald is indeed perceived within 'Cappielow' to be a director He is not, however, named as a director at Companies House despite Arthur Montford's and Ian Brown's resignations being listed-changes to the Board composition which occurred FIVE MONTHS AGO at virtually the same time as Mr Donald 'joined'.

Point 2/ The Trust was invited to answer the question on this forum and declined. A trust member, I believe, specifically asked the question in private some two weeks ago. Unless I am very much mistaken, no answer has been forthcoming. Your 'why not' becomes relevant in those circumstances!

I believe you are either playing devil's advocate (you wouldn't dare!), or your naivety is greater than I'd previously imagined when you talk of getting answers from the 'organ grinder' blink.gif

In those difficult circumstances, the monkey will indeed keep probing for the truth. Concern and interest from many posters and potential investors has been expressed repeatedly on this pubic massage board. The club is aware of what goes on here.The club has its informants and is free to read the forums. The club is WELL AWARE of the current concerns but chooses to remain silent.

The monkey wonders why.


Edit-apologies to others for some repetition.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 16:57:01
QUOTE(Savo @ Jun 22 2008, 04:30 PM) [snapback]464768[/snapback]
Why thank you, Sir biggrin.gif . FWIW, I find your fitba posts well-informed stuff too. Oh, and that Bobo Balde/Faddy one this morning was a belter haha.

There's plenty of incessant pap talked on here by some at times, but there's actually a good few folk on the board who offer plenty of interesting contributions. I won't do a list because I'll inevitably miss someone out and look like a tit.

Does that mean that some others' opinions don't concur with yours, or does it mean that you believe you are always correct in the same way as Mortonjag knows he is?
mortonjag 2008-06-22 17:14:12 I hate it when it happens to us, so I reckon it would be good for stimulating more atmosphere. For several seasons folk have complained about the lack of fan rivalry at Scapa. Surely this would help!
mortonjag 2008-06-22 17:17:36
QUOTE(Savo @ Jun 22 2008, 05:12 PM) [snapback]464783[/snapback]
Just you take it to mean whatever you want, old bean, you will anyway smile.gif
I notice you didn't reply to the post on the Jimbo thread btw, which is most unlike you.
I wonder why?

I always reply to direct questions. I shall retrace my steps! blush.gif


AND NOW I HAVE YOUNG MAN! laugh.gif

I already said Jimbo's knock down fee would pay wages for a left winger for a full season, and we'd have somebody who could regularly get decent crosses into the box.

You asked me to name names-Spurtle told you I don't, and I added------


Correct Spurtle-Mortonjag is too busy going to Morton matches-home and away-all season to do any scouting. dry.gif

Mortonjag is also too honest to trawl P & B and shamelessly plagiarise others in order to look 'informed'. dry.gif

Mortonjag's TV licence expired long ago, and he has been unable to watch replays of all last season's SFL matches. dry.gif

I liked the Croatian goalie's kicking and throw outs last night. (Benadette next door invited me in) We need a goalie. Now that they're oot yon cup maybe DI could put in a bid for him in exchange for JIMBO. dry.gif


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mortonjag 2008-06-22 17:31:22
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Jun 22 2008, 05:22 PM) [snapback]464787[/snapback]
I think it takes away any spontaneity from the goal celebrations; also I doubt there is any piece of music that everyone would enjoy.

Can you elaborate-everybody is spontaneously joyous-give it a ten second delay, then Inverally blasts the opposition with 'get it up you' music!

GRRRRRRRRRRRREAT! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-22 17:54:32
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 22 2008, 05:30 PM) [snapback]464789[/snapback]
No music after goals for me, get rid of Cappie and the cheerleaders as well. thumbdown.gif

The maister would be devastated! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Jun 22 2008, 05:33 PM) [snapback]464794[/snapback]
It shouldn't be up to Inverally to supply the "get it up you" music - it should be supplied by the cowshed!

In theory-AYE-but it doesn't happen. The away crowds have been tremendous on many occasions-the same guys are at Scapa yet there's something missing at home.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 18:03:53
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 22 2008, 05:46 PM) [snapback]464804[/snapback]
Thanks for the synopsis MJ. Is the registration issue not a minor procedural blip as others have suggested ? (may in fact be poor admin at Companies House as someone else hinted)
If individuals showed the same persistence in pursuing an answer from the the club as they have on here , Im certain that an answer would be forthcoming.

As for the club remaining silent - could it be the case that they are completely confident that there are no irregularities on their part and they choose not to communicate through an unofficial messageboard where individuals have (some in jest maybe) maligned the integrity/competence of the board/club administration.

or maybe they are just giving folks enough rope with which to do the inevitable to themselves if this continues.

As I've said before, the question deserves an answer - it's all about the way you ask it imho.

Of course it could, and I've been promised a definitive answer by close of business tomorrow!


So far as the club is concerned, there is ample evidence to show that they are super meticulous in every aspect of organisation. That is why I am CERTAIN they would have already 'pulled up' Companies House for a silly omission of the type you suggest.

As to giving paying fans enough rope to hang themselves-don't be silly-Mr Rae is extremely sensitive to the fans feelings. He'd never want to hurt them in any way.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 18:15:56
QUOTE(Savo @ Jun 22 2008, 05:41 PM) [snapback]464800[/snapback]
I'd already seen that, MJ.

I thought it rather odd you asked me for a reasoning, you got one, and then replied (to someone else, Colkitto) answering one of the questions, but not the other. I noted your response on the replacement point.

But I'd also argued Jim had done a hell of a lot more than 'huff and puff to little effect' and asked you if you stood by selling him for such a knockdown fee - was genuinely interested to know if your view had altered.

I think I can now safely assume you would accept 20k - and you are perfectly entitled to hold to your opinion.

Incidentally, I don't know why you feel unable to offer an view on prospective targets though; remember we play teams 4 times a season, you'll see a fair bit of players through that alone? Anyways...

I believed I'd already made it clear that I'd prefer a competent left winger if we could get a knockdown £20,000-£30,000 for Jimbo, so I fail to see what question remains unanswered.

IMO there's little point in tallying up assists and a relatively few goals in an attempt to justify playing him on the left, and there's no room in the middle with the signings we've made. In a bigger squad-as with Greacen, and Superkev-aye. I've pointed out that Pantaloons was causing more havoc in the box in the last few matches, than all the crosses we put over all season, and he was just throwing the ball in!

We NEED somebody who can get decent crosses over.

Oh and I know we're on the wrong forum now-I bet Mortonjag gets the blame as always! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-22 18:21:37
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Jun 22 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]464817[/snapback]
I don't think it's anything to do with music being played after we score - music was played after we scored during the season before last and despite winning the league the atmosphere was still pretty dreadful (most weeks).

I'd argue that the best way to generate atmosphere is to get a skillful and more importantly (visibly) committed team on the park, get that sorted and the atmosphere will follow.

It's been so long since we saw exciting attacking football-I agree with that point, but it still doesn't explain how we seem to unite as an away crowd and make ourselves well heard, while at Cappielow we're like mice.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 18:28:06
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 22 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]464825[/snapback]
I quite liked the one that was played on the run outs lastseason, the one that goes "do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do d do............................................ cant get no" My boy tells me it was Insomnia. (yes, he got it from the above description)

Here, I fancy one of those too-is it just board and lodgings?
mortonjag 2008-06-22 18:34:21 bouncy.gif rip.gif bouncy.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-22 18:36:47
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 22 2008, 06:33 PM) [snapback]464833[/snapback]
have you been in touch with mary davidson?

More than once Alistair.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 18:41:02
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 22 2008, 06:34 PM) [snapback]464835[/snapback]
Spammer.

I've told you before darling, I'd rather be a spammer than a snail-yes I would!
mortonjag 2008-06-22 19:31:56
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 22 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]464856[/snapback]
did you not get an answer? 1eye.gif

I got several answers Alistair.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 19:33:46
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 22 2008, 07:12 PM) [snapback]464880[/snapback]
General pish for this Nonsense!

Why would Shoogly's spy bother with general nonsense?
mortonjag 2008-06-22 19:35:54
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 22 2008, 06:44 PM) [snapback]464851[/snapback]
seems to me that you've got enough boys on here already. I've got a couple of non paying lodgers being weaned towards independant living. I'm told that some kids stay at home 'till their thirties ......................no f'n chance.



Are you calling me a POUFFE?
mortonjag 2008-06-22 19:41:59
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 22 2008, 07:29 PM) [snapback]464893[/snapback]
Agreed. Probably just the Space Time Continueum being disrupted again.

Welcome back Spurtle-did you get bawheid's autograph? drink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-23 05:10:32
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 22 2008, 07:41 PM) [snapback]464911[/snapback]
No suggestion whatsoever of you goin' in the boys' gate rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-23 05:10:45
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 22 2008, 07:41 PM) [snapback]464911[/snapback]
No suggestion whatsoever of you goin' in the boys' gate rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-23 05:21:56
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 22 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]464954[/snapback]
Was expecting to see a grease monkey getting fed grapes by some buxom serving wench while excreting vodka from her left tit .

But nothing compares to the truth

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mortonjag 2008-06-23 05:35:50

Women will be able to buy the contraceptive pill without having to visit their doctor under a new internet service launched yesterday.

The medical website DrThom is offering three months' supply of the drug for £29.99, raising concerns from the British Medical Association (BMA) about the sale of pharmaceuticals over the internet.

The service will initially be offered to women already on the contraceptive pill but will soon be expanded to those who have never taken it before.
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A spokesman for DrThom said patients will have to fill in a health questionnaire and can be asked follow-up questions by a doctor from the website.

Clients will have to be over 18 to buy the pills and use a credit card or debit card to make the purchase.

However, doctors will have to rely on patients accurately reflecting their medical history and telling the truth about other factors, including their age.

"There's nothing to stop a patient lying when they use the service," the spokesman said, but added they were only doing a disservice to their own health by lying.

The questionnaire includes asking the woman about prior use of the contraceptive pill as well as any side-effects, pregnancy, family history of cancer and blood pressure, weight and height.

Patients wishing to get repeat prescriptions and those who have never taken it before will have to provide specific details of their blood pressure reading, but the spokesman said the company would not be able to independently verify the information.

The IT system would pick up anybody registering as being under 18 and flag that up to staff, he added, with the credit or debit card used to make the purchase required to be in the patient's name.

A spokeswoman for the British Bankers' Association said yesterday that some banks offered debit cards to 14-year-olds. The average age to get a card was around 16, she said.

The sale of prescription-only drugs over the internet has become widespread.

A 2008 survey commissioned by the Royal Pharmaceutical Society of Great Britain found that more than two million people in Britain regularly buy prescription drugs such as the anti-depressant Prozac, the sex aid Viagra and Valium, which is prescribed to treat anxiety.

The Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Authority has seized £5.8m worth of drugs sold over the internet, of which it estimates around half are counterfeit.

Although it is illegal to buy prescription-only drugs without a prescription or consultation in the UK, whether on or offline, many websites are based overseas and cannot be closed down by British regulators.

The Herald was yesterday unable to contact DrThom, which specialises in contraception and sexual health screening and has a clinic in London, in order to clarify where the company is based.

The firm is registered with the Healthcare Commission and has received research funding from the Bupa Foundation last year.

Dr Thomas Van Every, DrThom's medical director, said in a statement: "The aim of our new contraceptive service is to make it easier and more convenient for women throughout the UK to get access to the pill.

"Our specialist service is ideal for a woman living a long way from her GP or a woman who is too busy because of work or childcare to take the time to visit her GP.

"We see the DrThom service as part of an ongoing trend - a trend consistent with UK Government policy - to help women access contraceptive services as close to their home as possible."

Women taking the most commonly prescribed combined pill, containing oestrogens and progestogens, have a small risk of blood clots.

Smoking increases the risk of blood clots as does diabetes, high blood pressure and a family history of clots.

A spokeswoman for BMA Scotland said yesterday: "It is important for women who are on the pill, or who are considering going on the pill, to seek advice from their doctor or family planning clinic.

"Purchasing drugs online doesn't involve the necessary safeguards as compared to going to a GP or clinic where a patient can discuss the best pill for them and consider all the options.

"The problem with the internet is that it offers no guarantees for the safety or quality of the drugs on offer."







For what it's worth, I believe that if women wish to pay their hard earned cash to purchase a potentially lethal drug-whether it be Coke or the 'Pill', it's their choice.

Well heeled arrogant/ignorant types are better not propagating anyway. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-23 07:04:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 23 2008, 06:32 AM) [snapback]465054[/snapback]
Well heeled arrogant/ignorant types are better not propagating anyway.

Too late for some.

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You have them in Oz too?
mortonjag 2008-06-23 07:04:33
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 23 2008, 06:32 AM) [snapback]465054[/snapback]
Well heeled arrogant/ignorant types are better not propagating anyway.

Too late for some.

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You have them in Oz too?
mortonjag 2008-06-23 07:09:05
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Jun 23 2008, 06:54 AM) [snapback]465056[/snapback]
First and foremost, so there’s no misunderstanding here and now, I have no issue with Boozehound at this point. The issue is (and was) dead and buried. Since, however, he did chime in, I’ll explain what happened from a sober point of view….

And no, Boozehound, you have nothing to fear from me, even if you speak your mind here and now. It’s cool. smile.gif
Here’s what happened, from my point of view:
Yes, Boozehound (and a few others) were checking out said barmaid. I was standing near my wife (she was in a booth against the wall, just to the right of me, talking to either the wife of JerseyTon or GurnseyTon...or both), and Boozehound and his group were to the left of me. My wife saw that her shoe was untied. She got up from her seat and she went to one knee on the floor to tie her shoe (her back was turned to Boozehound, so he could basically see her rear end). As I was watching her, I saw Boozehound go to one knee down behind her (but not close), and he did a motion with his hand (moving side-to-side, like a slapping motion). It was definitely directed towards my wife (as I saw it) because the barmaid had passed by a bit ago. I took it as an insult, and that’s why I reacted the way that I did. (Disrespect me all you want, but it’s a different story when it comes to my wife or other family members.)

Now, to be fair, Boozehound and I did talk about this a few years ago, and he said that he honestly doesn’t remember doing that. I believe him because he had been drinking, and I perceived him (with my law enforcement experience) to be pretty much “tipsy†as his speech was a bit slurred, and his eyes were bloodshot. (Note that I don’t drink, so I was 100% sober.) He did apologize to me for that incident, and that’s why I consider the matter closed.

One must remember and understand that alcohol can make one act/react in ways that one normally wouldn’t. I know that alcohol was the main cause of this (and maybe he didn’t realize that it was my wife, either), so I said what I did to him to wake him up a bit and to make him think about his actions. I had no intention of carrying it out (unless, of course, it happened again…which I don’t think it would’ve).

So, guys, that’s it from my point of view. Bottom line here is that the case is closed, and Boozehound is fine with me now. smile.gif
No, that thought never crossed my mind.

You should have spanked his little pink fanny there and then trick.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 07:15:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 23 2008, 06:52 AM) [snapback]465055[/snapback]
Anna Nicole Smith's former boyfriend Larry Birkhead has spent nearly $US3,000 at a celebrity auction scooping up lingerie once worn in a Playboy shoot by the late playmate.

Birkhead said he is trying to make sure his one-year-old daughter, Dannielynn, has an heirloom to remember her mother by.

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"I have a lot of history I have to put together that she doesn't really know about," Birkhead said. "Playboy was such a big part of Anna's career."



LINGERIE
–noun
1. underwear, sleepwear, and other items of intimate apparel worn by pouffes.
2. Archaic. linen goods in general.
–adjective
3. having the qualities of lingerie; lacy or frilly


mortonjag 2008-06-23 07:17:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 23 2008, 07:13 AM) [snapback]465061[/snapback]
Would he have liked that ?

I'd rather not say.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 07:20:34
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 23 2008, 07:12 AM) [snapback]465060[/snapback]
Yes, but they usually only post once.

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I was thinking about well heeled arrogant/ignorant types, who may be ancient, but still have a lot to learn.

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Royal family

Retired politicans

etc

I was just thinking we could re-title this thread 'Well heeled, arrogant, ignorant types-DISCUSS'.

With any luck, somebody may call me a well heeled arrogant ignorant pouffe. ph34r.gif dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-23 07:22:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 23 2008, 07:21 AM) [snapback]465066[/snapback]
That implies that you KNOW the answer.

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but proves nothing.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 07:24:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 23 2008, 07:20 AM) [snapback]465064[/snapback]
Are you suggesting that Anna Nicole Smith preferred ladies ?

not at all-I was just having a thought this morning-why do self made men have wee willies and drive big cars?
mortonjag 2008-06-23 07:51:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 23 2008, 07:28 AM) [snapback]465069[/snapback]
why do self made men have wee willies and drive big cars?
Is that why you drive a small Saab ?

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No-it's why I have a wrinkly wee willy.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 07:53:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 23 2008, 07:29 AM) [snapback]465070[/snapback]
With any luck, somebody may call me a well heeled arrogant ignorant pouffe.
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1 out of 4 ain't bad.

Would that be a pommy pouffe? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-23 07:54:43
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 23 2008, 07:48 AM) [snapback]465073[/snapback]
I spent part of the weekend there Newt. rolleyes.gif

Did you speak to Bawheid Spurtle, or was he to busy with the Trumps and Soapys?
mortonjag 2008-06-23 10:01:59
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jun 23 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]465089[/snapback]
in terms of football matters, SALC and jonaton tend to speak the most sense
for their in depth chatter, mcarthur, edwards and nacho rank high
for sheer high quality of guff, i wouldve said mj or port ton, but their relationship is getting beyond a joke

It's been serious from the word go!

You're a nice chap too. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-23 10:20:17
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jun 23 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]465094[/snapback]
as are you MJ
im just not entirely sure i want to endorse a relationship i feel wholly innapropriate, and immoral

You prefer younger men?

Quite understandable-but don't knock what you ain't tried! blush.gif

QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jun 23 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]465095[/snapback]
Ach, he's a dick, just like all your wee mates.

So mortonjag has a dick fetish?

f***ing ****!

Mortonjag just likes nice civil posters. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-23 10:33:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 23 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]465102[/snapback]
No Pommy poofs were ever born in Kilmacolm.

One needs to be a Sassenach to be a Pommy (**** or otherwise.)

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I was born in the Rankin!
mortonjag 2008-06-23 11:40:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 23 2008, 10:40 AM) [snapback]465108[/snapback]
Was the Rankin where it is now or was it in Inverkip Street in the 1940s ?

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I'm sure it was in Inverkip St, but I was very young at the time.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 11:45:18
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jun 23 2008, 10:51 AM) [snapback]465110[/snapback]
having seen port ton, and the old man photo fit everyone seems to have contstructed with regards to mortonjag, its immoral

Hmm-ageist homophobia! angel.gif shutup.gif bag.gif thumbup2.gif thumbup2.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-23 11:48:44
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 22 2008, 07:43 PM) [snapback]464916[/snapback]
Great wee day oot. Nicola was asking for ye... laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-23 11:52:30
QUOTE(Toby @ Jun 23 2008, 11:48 AM) [snapback]465125[/snapback]
That's pish and you well know it. If it was a Cowdenbeath fan that had said to him he'd probably have told him to shut up and sent him on his way but since it's big bad Rangers we make a song and dance about it. And nobody mentions anything about aggravating the situation with the "gloryhunter" jibes.

No wonder the Rangers fans have got this misconception that they are the people when they get everyone's backs up so much.

I know several OF fans whom I regard as decent people.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 12:16:26
QUOTE(McCauley87 @ Jun 23 2008, 12:06 PM) [snapback]465130[/snapback]
Did anybody see the new episode of Top Gear last night? I was watching the football so recorded Top Gear but it missed the end and I can't see in the TV guide if it's being repeated later on in the week sad.gif What happened or is it repeated?

Jeremy finally came out.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 12:20:00
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 23 2008, 12:16 PM) [snapback]465131[/snapback]
Must have been upsetting that.I can imagine how hurtful it was. Wish I'd been there, I'd have told him "no - it's the old firm fans that stink" that would of fixed him . mad.gif

You might have upset him Cloth Ears.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 16:30:00
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jun 23 2008, 01:53 PM) [snapback]465162[/snapback]
If there has been an error, and he is in fact registered with Companies House, allowing people to breath again, does anybody know, or think they know, what his intentions are as a director of Morton with a reported £100million in the bank? Is it buying 500,000 shares?

That's the question that folk wanted answered in the first place, and it's essentially the one that matters.

There probably has been at least one error, but he's NOT currently registered with Companies House, though they are doing a 'search' and taking a helluva long time to come back! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-23 16:34:50
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Jun 21 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]464456[/snapback]
I agree, Michelle would never knock you back...



Nor I her. More discrimination here-this time against fatties. Michelle didn't become famous for having a useless mouth.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 16:49:42
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 23 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]465206[/snapback]
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Litir o Obair-bhrothaig
gu Pap Ian XXII,
1320

O Athair ro naomh an seirbhis Dhè ‘s ceannard mòr ro urramaicht’ le toil is cumhachd mhòrachd Dhè os cionn na h-Eaglais iomlan taght’; ar daoine uaisle saor le chèile, ceann cinnidh àrdaicht’ againn cruinnicht’, thaobh anam Alba bruidhinn treun airson rìoghachd gu lèir is aonaicht’.

Mar mhic gu sochair tro’ linntean fad’ an Eaglais filia specialis, le pròis is irioslachd san Tì a chuir sar chomharra chùmhnant naomha oirnn; mar leanabh nighean àraidh roghnaicht’, seo sgrìobh sinn fhèin an ùmhlachd trom bhur mic gu bràth, an gealladh làidir an cràbhadh fior bhur casan ‘pògadh.

Bhathas ‘tuigse, Thighearn Athair Naomh, tro’ uine fad’ measg muinntir mhòr bho Ghalile, Galatia, Gaul, Galicia nas gairge nan slògh borb’, gum bi ar laochan cliùiteach fior air saorsa grèim gu daingeann cumail; an togradh duibh cuir sinn fo riaghal - nach dànaich duin’ no dùthaich eil’,

Fad mìltean bliadhna cruaidhe trom an aghaidh Bhreatannach, Lochlann’s eile, ar n-athraichean air strì ar tìr a chumail an saors’ bho Shasainn sanntach glacail; a-nis am fianais le eachdair’ sean, an-diugh nar seasamh nar fir sìorraidh, bha againn ceud is tìr rìghrean deug gun coigrich breugach air ar rìoghachd.

Tro’ linntean dh’fhàs ar rìoghachd ‘s ar daoine beannaicht’ len athraiche naomha gu lèir mar chlann gu sònraicht’ bhràthair Phàdraig le mòran càirdeis, bàidhealachd is sochair, fo dhìon Anndra an sìth a’ còmhnaidh - gus Eideard ann an càirdeas breugach gu grad rinn cogadh garg nar n-aghaidh ‘s fear cruaidh gar cur fo èiginn brònach.

Chan urrain dhaibh na h-uilc a thuigsinn nach fhaca marbhadh agus ainneart ach iadsan dh’fhuiling on Rìgh neo-airidh am mulad dubh, am bàs cho tosdach, na h-eaglaisean, abaidean uile, air sgrios am marbhadh brùideil borb gun chiall, nach seachainn bodach, bean no leanabh, gun urram air na sagairtean bàidheil.

Rinn Raibeart treun ar Prionnsa gaisgeil stri mhòr mar Iudas Maccabeus, a chur ar cùl bruadaran Shasainn le aintighearn a chaoidh nar riaghladh; tro’ bhliadhna trom, chridh’ treun a’ cumail gu maireann, fad cruaidh chunnart’ mòr a’ dìon le sgiath nas cinntich fìor a mhuinntir sheas air taobh na h-oighreachd.

Chuir sinn air àirde Rìgh na taghadh, fear glèidhidh treun air saorsa Alba, a rugadh ‘na rìgh is ‘na dhuine fiùthail, airson sin tha sinne deas ri sabaid. Ma strìochdas e anfhann gar trèigsinn, sin bitheamaid grad ‘n Righ ud a dhiùltadh, ma ghèilleas e fhèin ri seirbhis Shasainn, ‘n sin Rìgh nas fheàrr bidh sinn a’ taghadh.

Chan fheum sinn dearbhadh a-rithist an glòirbhinn mhòr an sgeulachd Alba, cha chuir sinn earbs’ an airgead mealltach, chan iarr sinn ràiteachas gun fhiù, cha bhi sinn gu dìlinn a’ gèilleadh fo thràillealachd ìsle Shasainn amh, cho fad’s a mhaireas ceud a-mhàin glèidhidh sinn gu treun ar saors’ gu bràth.

Aon lagh air Iùdhach is Greugach a-mahàin mar sin an Alba ‘s Sasann cuideachd, bidh an Tì as àirde toirt a bhreitheanais air uilc fad bliadhn’ dorcha dòrainneach. A Thighearn, tha sinn ag achanaich, cuir stad air sannt Rìgh ud na h-uile Sasuinn a tha leis an talamh nas mò ‘na fheum far an d’fhuair seachd Rìghrean sàsachd.

Is sinne an còmhnaidh nar dùithacih bhig, chan iarr sinn ach rudan is leinn fhèin, sin innis dha leig dhuinn bhith ciùin, ar sìth a ghealladh tha sinn deònach. Chan urrain dhuibh gu dearbh seachnadh bhur dleasnas soilleir, Athair as naomha, mus fhaic am pàganach peacach Eaglais ‘s a h-ainm dol sìos am masladh grànda.

Sin Cronaich Rìghrean an leisgeil bhreugaich nach urrain dhaibh Tir Naomh a’ chuideach, a chionn a’ chogaidh an aghaidh nàbaidh, ‘s iad trang aig creachadh an coimhnearsnach; is aithne do Dhia a leugh an cridhe - gun eallach Eideard, bhitheamaid deas le aoibhneas saorsa thoirt don Tìr, ‘s an làthair Eaglais bheir sinn gealladh.

Nis deanamaid ùmhlachd duhibh mar mhic is a bhith taitneach daonnan d’ur toil, ach seasamh an seo am fianais ar Dia is feumaidh sinn ar comhairle fhoillseach - na gabh gun dearchadh fascal Shasainn, na cuir ann bhur muinighin neochiontach, neo-chùramach na dèan ar tilgeadh an cogadh dòrainneach brònach fuileach.

Gach olc a chuireadh iadsan oirnne, am mulad ceudna ‘s e an dìoghladh leinne, a Dhè as Àirde, na cionta sin cho uabharr, dona, fo chùnntas cuir-sa; bithidh sgrios gu lèir air àitibh uile, ma chumas sibhse bhur taic ri Sasainn an casgradh diabhlaidh air corp is anam aig airseirigh feumaidh sibh am freagradh.

Do chathair Dhè bheir sinn ar cùis air beulaibh an Rìgh ro Mhòr ar breitheamh; ar n-inntinn uaith ri fòirneart a’ cathadh an ainm Dhè is earbsa Chrìosd, gu robh ar Dia a’ deònach dhuinn a’ mhisneach làidir treun is seasmhach, gun cumadh sinn ar cinneach saor ‘s gu’n còpadh sinn aintighearnas daingeann.

Gu maireadh sibh an seirbhis Eaglais a’ bhliadhna 1320 beannaicht’; bho Obair-bhrothaig Giblean sèathamh an còigeamh bliadhn’ deug an Rìgh roimh-ainmicht’.

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"Agus beimid inr n-aoir ar do shonsa, a Thiarna, ar do shonsa, tcumhacht tagtha anuas do lmh ionas go gcomhlonadh r gcosa do thoil go tapaidh. Sruthimid ar aghaidh mar abhainn chugat Agus pldaithe le hanamacha a bheidh sgo deo."



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mortonjag 2008-06-23 16:58:18 Every time this old chestnut comes up, some folk tar all OF supporters with the same brush.

Done in jest-it can be very funny.

Just don't kid yourselves that the AVERAGE OF fan is any worse a person than the average bigot. He's not.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 17:04:37
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 23 2008, 01:39 PM) [snapback]465156[/snapback]
Reported. w*nker.
Newton i feel morally obliged to tell you, that i am infact all man!....well mostly. Referring to me as she, as strangely erotic as i find it, should probably stop now...for both our sakes. smile.gif
edit to add: two of the last three people i've quoted have called me " she ". who exactly here thinks im a girl?? mellow.gif

laugh.gif --I KNOW you're not, Petal.

QUOTE(princessTON @ Jun 23 2008, 03:11 PM) [snapback]465184[/snapback]
my favourite poster is me smile.gif

Question was WHY Princess! unsure.gif

QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jun 23 2008, 03:58 PM) [snapback]465196[/snapback]
I thought you were a girl, a bit of a trollop actually. oops.gif

Leave Petal alone-she's nothing like a girl.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 17:11:24
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jun 23 2008, 05:06 PM) [snapback]465219[/snapback]
hello welcome angel.gif

You might as well remove the aureole Princess.

Kent's further away from Jason than Greenock! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-23 17:13:13
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jun 23 2008, 05:09 PM) [snapback]465221[/snapback]
Get him. I doubt we could find a better keeper.

HERE GOES ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-23 17:28:50
QUOTE(Jackie @ Jun 23 2008, 05:15 PM) [snapback]465225[/snapback]
I do Jamie.

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mortonjag 2008-06-23 17:31:42
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 23 2008, 05:15 PM) [snapback]465227[/snapback]
But we could get a cheaper one.

What's the asking price?
mortonjag 2008-06-23 17:37:14
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 23 2008, 05:15 PM) [snapback]465226[/snapback]
Let's call it McAnespie.

McAnespie Dolphin doesn't sound right.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 17:39:46
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jun 23 2008, 01:46 PM) [snapback]465160[/snapback]
Watching Wimbledon, Sue's had her coat of Ronseal for the fortnight I see!

According to the tin it should last a bit longer.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 17:43:52
QUOTE(grnklad2006ton @ Jun 23 2008, 05:35 PM) [snapback]465236[/snapback]
Agree with that, we should sign him. On this board just now the 2 people that i think we will sign would be Innes and now this keeper but when is Irons back in town. Can nothing be done without Irons say so blink.gif ? does the chairman not have a say or that if irons is away????????? i do think that we will get those 2 and thats our whack rolleyes.gif . Even though we need a goal machine blink.gif .

That beats 'his arse fits my hand like a glove' by a long way!

Post of the summer! bag.gif wacko.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-23 17:46:29
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jun 23 2008, 05:44 PM) [snapback]465242[/snapback]
Boom..............................boom.

You ever considered stand-up?

Very cruel.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 17:55:25
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 23 2008, 05:47 PM) [snapback]465244[/snapback]
I'd have to say Bobby Collins. I played against him at the Sports Centre in about 1969 and although he was only about 4 foot six (OK I exaggerate his smallness a bit...) he was like cast iron. Just about broke my wrist with a shot from the far end of the pitch and when you tackled him you just bounced off. Oh, and he showed us this wee trick where you stood behind a forward in the wall and when the ref was looking away you grabbed the forward's waistband and twisted. Ouch.

A nice wee guy but someone you'd want in your team as first pick every time. One of our best ever players and that's despite him being about 37 when he played for us.

Collins was not only about 4'6"-he had in his time played against the best in Britain and abroad, and stood his own, unlike some of the 'hard men' also quoted on the thread.

Definitely my all time choice for the title.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 19:00:29
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jun 23 2008, 05:51 PM) [snapback]465247[/snapback]
It beggars belief, it really does. After all the noise they made in the Greenock Telegraph about Donald coming on board, then the Cappielow upgrade plans, stuff you'd expect to here them make an announcement about, I find it strange that they seem to be choosing not to answer this question through a letter in the paper or something.

After all the turmoil the last guy who promised to invest large sums of money put us in, why are the Club so incompetent in communicating with their own supporters about such an important issue?

It certainly appears a FAR more important issue than Mr Rae worrying this time last year about being 'bullied into signing players'. He knew EXACTLY the questions we were all asking then, and wasn't slow to get his usual punch in at his paying customers. Is he out of training this time? dry.gif

QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 23 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]465257[/snapback]
What I find hard to believe is that for 6months our rep on the board has failed to find the answer to this question in advance of it being asked sleep.gif

Didn't The Trust think of asking this and investigating further afterall as The Trust is the 2nd largest shareholder, I think, it should have been one of the 1st questions asked.

Fair dinkum it was correctly stated he was doing an overview of the club but did no-one think to ask about timelines and if a report would be submitted to the shareholders, the folk that matter.

In fact what exactly did the committee of The Trust do to invesetigate Mr Donald's sudden acceptance by Dougie unsure.gif


That is an entirely reasonable point, and one which appears to have been evaded by the Trust. I originally asked the question of the Trust-the thread was transferred to 'a more appropriate forum' by the powers that be, and I had to re-open it in its current form.

There is a hard core of posters on this pubic massage board, which resents legitimate questions being asked. Those people claim to be Morton supporters.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 19:04:56
QUOTE(grnklad2006ton @ Jun 23 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]465250[/snapback]
What the fu*k is up wae you now monkey child????????? blink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-23 19:07:35
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 23 2008, 07:04 PM) [snapback]465269[/snapback]
Welcome to the madhouse strongbow. thumbup2.gif

Whereabouts in Kent are you from? I lived in Otham near Maidstone for a couple if years, nice part of the world.

Edit to add: D'oh, just realised it's Greenhithe you're from, what am I like. rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-23 19:11:10
QUOTE(grnklad2006ton @ Jun 23 2008, 06:00 PM) [snapback]465249[/snapback]
Dirty orange bas**rds, queen ar*e licking union jack trouble making scum. There a daft team who shout about Poofy king billy this and english queen that along with a red hand northen ireland flag then other days its a union jack, and they have the cheek to say there scottish and play in glasgow. Fuds have the cheek to start on a morton fan for nothing. There are 2 sets of fans that i am very bitter against and they are st mirren and rangers. St mirren for obvious reasons and rangers because they give scottish football a bad name, does the trouble in manchester ring ring a bell, joining up with chelsea fans to cause murder whats that all about, and now iv heard it all when i hear them start on morton fans.

Ohh i tell you mate i could think of more than just the word hun laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif .

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I actually prefer St Mirren to the Tims myself!
mortonjag 2008-06-23 19:12:46 Welcome back Willy Man.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 19:21:17
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 20 2008, 11:32 PM) [snapback]464072[/snapback]
It doesn't matter what the cause is. Fact is, poverty leads to crime. Don't see what point you are making.

Drug addicts / poverty... again direct relation in most cases. Obviously you get the celebrities or rich coke addicts, but that is a very small % of drug cases, and don't really cause any social problems in the whole grand scheme of things. Certainly don't cause the taxpayer much money.

Sure, there are loads of people (the majority) from poorer backgrounds who go on to get an education and make a good living for themselves. But facts remain that there is a lot of people in a circle of poverty, kids being born whose parents never worked and even grandparents etc etc.

Another fascinating gem from our Professor Piehole and his University of Life.

QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 21 2008, 12:19 AM) [snapback]464108[/snapback]
so poverty doesn't lead to crime? peoples attitudes lead them to crime. Poor People and rich people all have bad attitudes, poor people and rich people all want more than what they already have. Some poor people who want more than they have work hard for it and earn it, others choose to steal....it has nothing to do with poverty, infact poverty probably makes you try harder to achieve a life for your children that you never had, thats if you have the right attitude.

Common sense, it appears, and with it logical thinking, is not solely the province of the 'wrinkly willies'.

QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 23 2008, 06:54 PM) [snapback]465264[/snapback]
Have you ever read a single, solitary piece of scholarly research on this issue? Because everything you write is tinged with idealism and not reality.

"Poverty ought to inhibit drug use" - yes, in BIZARRO LAND.

Just sometimes, I get thoroughly pissed off with children quoting big books. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-23 19:25:32
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 23 2008, 07:19 PM) [snapback]465282[/snapback]
Cuthbert, while better than the guy we have, is still pretty poor.

I hope he doesn't turn to crime.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 19:29:28
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 23 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]465275[/snapback]
we know, a big whoofter. smartass.gif




Is that the same as a pouffe?

I've just had my whoofter re-upholstered? drink.gif eek.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-23 19:35:02
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jun 23 2008, 07:27 PM) [snapback]465289[/snapback]
that is f***ing ridiculous! ph34r.gif

There are cheaper ways of drawing attention to oneself.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 19:38:16
QUOTE(shagster @ Jun 23 2008, 07:35 PM) [snapback]465294[/snapback]
It was very briefly Joe's Video Bar.

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mortonjag 2008-06-23 19:47:53
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jun 23 2008, 07:43 PM) [snapback]465297[/snapback]
looking to buy a new printer and i'm not really sure what to go for.
Any suggestions what make/model is the best for stuff at home- essays etc the occasional photograph. whats best inkjet, laserjet etc??
cheers in advance ph34r.gif

I've got a wee Lexmark X1270-which includes a scanner. Tesco for less than £50. It does the job quite nicely
mortonjag 2008-06-23 20:03:19
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jun 23 2008, 07:57 PM) [snapback]465305[/snapback]
Does this story have any porpoise?

The sole porpoise is to sting Rae.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 20:06:17
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 23 2008, 07:54 PM) [snapback]465302[/snapback]
Was it this year or last year that someone's wean was in there called Pocahontas McPherson.

I mean FFS, that lassie has to go to school.

TonInDublin

I wouldn't worry-they'll call her 'Pokey' and she'll live up to it.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 20:09:03
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 23 2008, 08:04 PM) [snapback]465313[/snapback]
Something fishy going on here

So I've been herring
mortonjag 2008-06-23 20:12:13
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 23 2008, 08:06 PM) [snapback]465315[/snapback]
Hey you, where's the link you were meant to send mellow.gif

Butchers was shut.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 20:18:04
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 23 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]465319[/snapback]
Something mamally doesn't quite have the same ring to it really. blink.gif

Poor McAnespie Dolphin was just in the wrong plaice at the wrong time.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 20:23:11
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 23 2008, 08:18 PM) [snapback]465323[/snapback]
You've blown a hole in this topic now, haven't you?

It's a whale of a topic-I wonder if Mr Salmond will lend some political mussel
mortonjag 2008-06-23 20:25:57
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 23 2008, 08:17 PM) [snapback]465320[/snapback]
Welcome Strongbow ! You'll meet those nasty Blackthorn cousins on here shortly. A certain poster rolleyes.gif has posted 5 times on yer thread........................ you'll soon get the hang of it .

SIX-Cloth Ears! bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif crying.gif eek.gif drink.gif nerd.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-23 20:29:55
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 23 2008, 08:23 PM) [snapback]465327[/snapback]
I doubt it - all of his current proposals are floundering.

He could at least mullet over
mortonjag 2008-06-23 20:31:32
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jun 23 2008, 08:26 PM) [snapback]465331[/snapback]
Irons is back in town! wink.gif

Great-maybe he'll tell us about Mr Donald.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 20:33:07
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 23 2008, 08:27 PM) [snapback]465332[/snapback]
laugh.gif Anticipated my next post there.

SEVEN NOW

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mortonjag 2008-06-23 20:36:34
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 23 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]465336[/snapback]
The Tele is just another Labour rag mad.gif

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Red rag to a bull Spurtle! bag.gif drink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-23 21:16:26
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 23 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]465354[/snapback]
Welcome Strongbow smile.gif

i can't help but feel having never been to cappielow and also not seeing what Morton fans are like on here yet, that i'll give you a week before you start supporting someone else laugh.gif 40 years down the drain sad.gif

Or he may become well kent.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 21:21:32
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 23 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]465353[/snapback]
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I think you meant


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mortonjag 2008-06-23 21:26:06
QUOTE(edd @ Jun 23 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]465355[/snapback]
i agree with piehutt and don't really see any controversy in what he's saying.
where did that come from? that's clearly not what he or anyone else was saying at all

Poverty does not inevitably lead to criminal behaviour.

Criminal behaviour is not inevitably the result of poverty.

Piehole tends to be somewhat simplistic.

There is a definite link between criminal behaviour and poverty in West of Scotland society.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 21:28:09
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jun 23 2008, 09:22 PM) [snapback]465374[/snapback]
Or cause you to fall off your perch.

and go off in a fit of pike
mortonjag 2008-06-24 05:11:04

Education officials at an SNP-led council have warned a multimillion-pound cash injection is needed to meet the Scottish Government's manifesto promise to reduce class sizes.

West Dunbartonshire Council officers have investigated the costs of cutting primary 1-3 classes to 18, and have come up several million pounds short.

The council, a minority-led SNP administration with the support of independent councillors, had previously passed a motion stating parents, pupils and teachers had been "seriously misled" by the SNP on their promise to reduce class sizes.


The motion, passed by a majority of Labour councillors after some administration councillors were absent, instructed officials to carry out a detailed study into the costs associated with a reduction to 18.

The study, which, had the full nine SNP and two independent members voted, would not have seen the light of day, has concluded the Scottish Government will need to find a total of almost £7m to allow the pledge to be met in West Dunbartonshire.

Terry Lanagan, executive director of education services, said, in the resultant report to councillors, the move would require considerable capital and revenue costs.

He said: "It is estimated that the total cost of adapting, extending or providing temporary classrooms for West Dunbartonshire schools as required to deliver class size maxima of 18 in P1-P3 would be approximately £6.1m. This would be a one-off capital cost, although it might be necessary to make further one off investments in future years in light of roll variations.

"Within the current financial settlement, a sum of £378,000 has been made available for capital projects, aimed at reducing class sizes in West Dunbartonshire schools."

It is estimated West Dunbartonshire, with 34 primary schools, would need an additional 21 teachers to deliver the reduction costing in excess of £800,000 a year.

Mr Lanagan added: "At present it is unclear how the costs would be met."

Across the council's primary school estate only seven have 18 or less in P1, and only one, is currently below the 18 level for P1-P3. Some classes are as high as 29 in P2 and P3. However, the SNP administration accused Labour councillors of playing politics and said a shake-up of the authority's primary schools would, in time, deliver the government policy.

Iain Robertson, leader of West Dunbartonshire Council, said: "The motion was politically motivated. The facts are our primary schools estate is well under capacity, with far more space than pupils.

"We are now consulting on phase two of our schools regeneration programme.

"We are confident that after consultation we will be able to accommodate the government target of class sizes of 18. The report is a basic factual report that in the current situation is accurate. There is no argument about that, but it can't be considered on its own, without the regeneration plans."

The Association of Directors of Education have submitted a report to the Scottish Government estimating that an extra 2173 teachers would be needed across Scotland, costing £62m a year, and 900 additional classrooms costing £360m.

They predict fewer placing requests would be approved, leading to parental dissatisfaction, and that catchment areas may have to be redrawn. They also note it would be misleading to suggest a simple link between small classes and improved attainment, with research being inconsistent, concluding other options may be more cost effective in raising attainment.

Rhona Brankin, Labour's education spokeswoman, said: "This goes to show what Labour has continued to assert is absolutely true. The SNP cannot be trusted with Scotland's schools.

"Teachers have already highlighted a series of concerns to us from class sizes to helping pupils with additional support needs.

"Fiona Hyslop is ignoring the truth about Scottish education under the SNP. Her party is failing pupils, parents and teachers across Scotland. Rather than chasing headlines she should instead chase real improvements."

A Scottish Government spokeswoman said: "We have made clear the local government settlement specifically included a special provision to maintain teacher numbers nationally at around 53,000 in the face of falling school rolls, and that by doing this local authorities can reduce class sizes.

"We have increased funding to local government by more than 13% over the next three years, providing £34.9bn. For each of those three years, we are also spending a higher percentage of our overall budget on local government than the position we inherited from the previous administration




Promises,promises, promises.

Power without responsibility STINKS.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 05:53:10
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 24 2008, 02:07 AM) [snapback]465472[/snapback]
Long time no hear from you .

Actually I'd say that you have made some of the most valid questions on the whole subject . Considering the reasons we have a Trust in the first place you'd have thought that they would be asking the questions about his involvement and longterm plans



Indeed Chris. In 'knee jerk' mode to 'Keeping track of the money', The Trust took HUGE steps to justify its NOT being the 'fans representative on the Board'. Jim McColl, we were reassured, is indeed the 'nice man' most of us always suspected him to be, while Stuart Duncan went to unprecedented and almost inordinate lengths to emphasise the Trust's FINANCIAL role as the second largest shareholder.

Having been forced into the open it seemed, the Trust CLAIMED it welcomed publicity on this pubic massage board. It has disappeared without a word of explanation. dry.gif

My original 'A question for the Trust' post was DELIBERATELY AND INSIDIOUSLY 'transferred to a more appropriate forum' seemingly in an attempt to protect somebody or something. Either that or it was just another attempt to muffle Mortonjag by someone who should know MUCH better. The original thread just seemed to disappear-it was not left in situ with 'moved' appended. Sometimes I genuinely doubt the motives of our 'high heid yins' on THIS forum! dry.gif

On the 'more appropriate' Trust forum, it died a death-in the throes of which Mortonjag was subjected to the usual jibes from the ever more easily identified Shooglyphiles-folk who CLAIM to have Morton at heart too! mad.gif

Forgetting all that, the thread has now attracted huge interest, yet the Trust has avoided getting involved in the debate. I was effectively told to 'back off' because I'm not currently a member, but another poster who is, specifically asked the question over two weeks ago, and STILL awaits his answer.

The representatives of the second biggest shareholder haven't a 'Scooby' about Alistair Donald it would appear-either that or they feel the need to hide something. The former is bizarre-the latter, sinister.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 06:17:16
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 23 2008, 09:58 PM) [snapback]465394[/snapback]
**Yawn**

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QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 23 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]465411[/snapback]
and from someone, who quite frankly should know better.
for shame...for shame indeed. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 23 2008, 10:40 PM) [snapback]465417[/snapback]
3 day ban.


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So much anger. Group hug anyone? Apart from Deego of course. That boy's got more hands than a poker game ...

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mortonjag 2008-06-24 06:19:47
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 23 2008, 09:17 PM) [snapback]465369[/snapback]
you're a complete and utter k*nt!

Don't jump to conclusions-the money's under the clock.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 06:22:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 24 2008, 05:57 AM) [snapback]465483[/snapback]
you being too subtle, mortonjag ?

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WOOD EYE
mortonjag 2008-06-24 06:25:55
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 23 2008, 09:33 PM) [snapback]465382[/snapback]
No I meant

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I take it Willy Man walks like this then!

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mortonjag 2008-06-24 06:29:28 Latest: McAnespie Dolphin offered assistance by lone shark.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 06:32:15
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 23 2008, 11:13 PM) [snapback]465423[/snapback]
I can assure you no anti-English remarks were made or heard at Bannockburn.
Infact the English are invited, like they are every year, to lay a wreath to their fallen.

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Say what you like about thae Inglish, Spurtle, they're no that daft! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-24 06:36:24

QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 23 2008, 11:54 PM) [snapback]465434[/snapback]
The only good politician is a dead one , at least then they have an excuse for not answering a direct question

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mortonjag 2008-06-24 06:41:43
QUOTE(edd @ Jun 24 2008, 12:02 AM) [snapback]465444[/snapback]
poverty doesn't inevitably lead to criminal behaviour in every individual case, of course, but on the whole statistics show a direct correlation between poverty and crime - no-one disagrees with this, surely? i think that's all piehutt was saying - and these girls all trying to get pregnant is surely not going to be good for their education and career prospects, hence more poverty and more crime could well be on the way.

i mean really, how f***ing stupid are these girls?

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QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 24 2008, 12:49 AM) [snapback]465457[/snapback]
naw - was it not artificial insemination ?

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Jim the Janny in the bike shed with a pipette.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 06:50:17 Thank you once again for taking the time to contact us with your feedback.

Regards

Ross Jubin
BBC Complaints
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Ross Jubin indeed! blink.gif Jos. Rubin more like. blush.gif

QUOTE(xj2006 @ Jun 24 2008, 12:58 AM) [snapback]465461[/snapback]
yeah that was a bit of a gaffe - motto is a senile old man

I have freeview and at that very moment turned over to 301 which is the game with 5 live commentary instead

ahhhhhhhh

Lawrenson does my tits in, and I dont get annoyed easily, but he is the worst pundit ever

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mortonjag 2008-06-24 06:57:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 24 2008, 05:45 AM) [snapback]465479[/snapback]
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The people in England loved Pocahontas and followed her everywhere.

Pocahontas ran into John Smith while in England.

She was so upset she could not talk for hours.

She thought Smith had been dead.

Pocahontas missed her home.

England had so much fog and sickness.

Rolfe decided it was time to take Pocahontas home.

On her way home Pocahontas died at the age of only 22.



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That's truly sad.

Maybe the little Greenock child would have been better called Pocajubejubes.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 07:07:11
QUOTE(dazed @ Jun 24 2008, 06:32 AM) [snapback]465492[/snapback]
Hi Strongbow welcome to our merry band! smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif





The keeper did a hunting go
And under his cloak he carried a bow
All for to shoot a merry little doe
Among the leaves so green, O.

(Chorus:)
Jackie boy! (Master!) Sing ye well! (Very well!)
Hey down (Ho down) Derry derry down
Among the leaves so green, O
To my hey down down (To my ho down down )
Hey down (Ho down) Derry derry down
Among the leaves so green, O

The first doe he shot at he missed;
The second doe he trimmed he kissed;
The third doe went where nobody wist
Among the leaves so green, O.

The fourth doe she did cross the plain,
The keeper fetched her back again.
Where she is now, she may remain,
Among the leaves so green, O.


The fifth doe she did cross the brook;
The keeper fetched her back with his crook;
Where she is now you may go and look
Among the leaves so green, O.

The sixth doe she ran over the plain;
But he with his hounds did turn her again,
And it's there he did hunt in a merry, merry vein
Among the leaves so green, 0.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 07:48:52
QUOTE(dazed @ Jun 24 2008, 07:15 AM) [snapback]465501[/snapback]
Good grief I had forgotton about Eric Smith.....jesus he was a tough nut! I even remember him tackling a Morton player at cappielow cos he he was hanging on to the ball too long!

Didnt he eventually, although briefly I think,become the manager? and does anyone else remember that incident?

I have a memory of Eric as a balding and very stocky player who never shirked a tackle. I believe he was in football management briefly but also was involved in business (Clyde Cooperage I seem to remember).
mortonjag 2008-06-24 08:17:01
QUOTE(Rossco @ Jun 24 2008, 08:04 AM) [snapback]465505[/snapback]
The thing that I dont get is why they have seperate commentators for the Radio 5 Live coverage & the television coverage of the same game.

Was listening toSpain v Italy game on five live & it was graeme taylor & someone else & it was much better than Lawrenson & Motson it was fairly balanced & taylor even cracked a joke about how he was glad England werent there as it means its someone elses turn to get put out on penalties.
Lawrenson just tries to be witty & doesnt pull it off as Motson is so dense.

I quite often listen on five live if the game's not that exciting on the telly. When I do watch, I turn the commentary off-they are crap!

When is the new batch of spawn due BTW?
mortonjag 2008-06-24 08:19:56
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jun 24 2008, 08:09 AM) [snapback]465506[/snapback]
Why do people quote ingham. He has no relevance today and hasn't since the early 90s. All that you are doing is bringing his views to a wider domain. It's a bit like showing some of the views on here as being representative of party policy for the main parties.

Only one person-Spurtle! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-24 08:34:01
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Jun 24 2008, 08:24 AM) [snapback]465512[/snapback]
He was the Morton manager for a while and it was his Leeds Utd contacts which led to Joe Jordan going there. Incidentally although Joe became a Scotland star and would be regarded as a tough player, when he was with Morton he was still quite slight and more of a candidate for the 'weediest' than the 'hardest'.

I believe Bobby Collins was also instrumental in Joe going to Leeds. Indeed he was a bit of a 'fairy' at Cappielow. Brian Graham is more effective than he ever was for the Ton.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 08:37:48
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jun 24 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]465511[/snapback]
Don't you have any clothes for going out in? Maybe a nice shirt or polo shirt matched with a pair of jeans. Can look attractive on the right person.

Mr McArthur may disagree.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 08:49:03
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 24 2008, 08:42 AM) [snapback]465516[/snapback]
It was Eric Smith who crossed the ball (from a free kick) for Carl Bertelsen to score Morton's 4th goal of 4 scored in the last 15 minutes of a game against Celtic, 3-0 down with 15 minutes to go and ended up scoring 4 for a 4-3 win - until the ref decided that between Bertelsen heading the ball and it hitting the net, he had actually blown for full time. Aye right!

I take it there's no recorded TV footage. Nowadays refs would never get off with that, EVEN against the OF.

He literally blew the whistle the minute Smith kicked the ball-thereby denying Morton any advantage from the 'free kick' he'd awarded.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 08:53:40
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 24 2008, 08:41 AM) [snapback]465515[/snapback]
Yes we are better staying silent like good little boys and girls.

Correct Spurtle, and don't you forget it! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 24 2008, 08:49 AM) [snapback]465519[/snapback]
I think Ian Smith was just a product of his time. In the 60s, racism wasn't even called racism, and there was a sort of prevailing wisdom that anyone with skin that wasn't a fairly light pink was in some way inferior. I think better communications and in particular the internet have done a lot to enlighten people. When I was at school, defamatory jokes about black people, jews, catholics etc etc were commonplace and rarely did anyone suggest that perhaps there was something wrong with that. I think things have improved a lot since then. I don't think Ian Smith was actually a bad person, he was just acting as a result of the way he had been brought up, and that was what made him act in what we would now describe as a racist manner.

Racism and most related -isms are really a natural defence mechanism evolved over many years, to protect against possible threats from strangers. If people realised that, they might act differently.


Absolutely-it's a bit like instinctively killing a non poisonous snake.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 09:52:45
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 24 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]465524[/snapback]
Ingham, alas, is still relevant today. The Labour Party took his and Thatcher's ideas and 'improved' upon them. His video has one comic moment though when he says 'Blow the English and the Welsh'. Er... no thanks. The SNP video is a bit sad, I'd hoped it might expand on Salmond's piece at the end of the Ingham video about the just causes of democracy and self determination. Instead we got the appeal to greediness, the same old same old about how oil could make us all rich. And I won't take any lectures on social justice from tax-dodging, misogynist charlatans like Shir Shawn Baloney.

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mortonjag 2008-06-24 10:05:09
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Jun 24 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]465541[/snapback]
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It was Eric Smith who crossed the ball (from a free kick)

It's funny how you remember some parts of a game and not others. I remember Boyd breaking through just over the half-way line and the referee blowing for a foul for Morton even though they clearly had the advantage, but if you'd asked me I would have said that it was Boyd who took the free kick.

I was behind the goal at the Wee Dublin end and when Bertlesen headed in the place went mad for all sorts of reasons because there was no separation of fans then, but also very little trouble.

I can still see Hugh Strachan standing in front of the referee looking incredulous and clearly asking for some sort of explanation; and then the back page headline in the Sunday Mail: MORTON 4 CELTIC 3.

How can it be that some people in Scottish football still can't accept that the pressure on referees from the Old Firm fans and establishments is such that they always have and always will get these kind of decisions going for them? Does it ever go the other way?

Funnily enough I'd ALWAYS remembered Johnny Boyd taking that free, but I've heard it attributed to Smith so often recently that I just accepted I was wrong! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-24 13:01:17
QUOTE(Mick @ Jun 24 2008, 11:16 AM) [snapback]465574[/snapback]
I don't think this is justified at all. Agreed, perhaps controls could be better but I'm absolutely convinced that we wouldn't be the only Club who manage to 'lose' a few season tickets.....? In any case, perhaps if individuals did the right thing (dare I suggest making the Club aware of the 'issue') rather that talking (endlessly) about it on here, we might be in a better place....

You are entitled to your opinion. It appears you now represent a VERY small number who think as you do.
The season ticket incompetence is merely the tip of an iceberg.

QUOTE(Mick @ Jun 24 2008, 11:19 AM) [snapback]465575[/snapback]
No offence intended, but if it turns out that this thread (and many, many more like it) are spurious then there's reasonably only one poster to look at.

Why should the Club respond to every single 'perfectly reasonably and legitimate question' - FFS, with MJ's post count alone, they'd need to employ someone solely dedicated to the task!!

There is no reason whatsoever why 'the club' should respond to MY legitimate question. It's well recorded that they only EVER respond when they wish to.

No offence intended, but your opinion in face of ALMOST 19,000 views and 400 posts, the vast majority of which appear to share my concerns, might be construed as slightly skewed.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 13:20:38
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Jun 24 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]465599[/snapback]
Ahh FFS!!!!!!!
Robinson is rank rotten thumbdown.gif

With news like this comin out of Cappielow, my hopes for the new season are slowly diminishing!!

'A small squad of quality players, and they want a small non quality goalie.

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 24 2008, 12:29 PM) [snapback]465604[/snapback]
I'm not happy with this news. A good experienced keeper is what we need. Not some rookie who is going to have more than his fair shre of mistakes cutting his teeth as a keeper.

On the money Spurtle.

QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jun 24 2008, 12:59 PM) [snapback]465622[/snapback]
MJ? Is that you?

Nope-take me off that daft huff button and you'll learn plenty son. This is ME now.

So they've 'already decided on the size and quality of the squad', but it will 'depend on the budget'. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif


'May I have a box of those lovely Thorntons' chocolates young lady?

'Certainly Sir, that'll be £3.49 please.

'£3.49-you're joking surely'!

'No Sir, I'm afraid you have to pay for quality those days'.

'Oh well, I suppose you know what you're talking about. I'll have a bag of Buchanans' toffees instead'.

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mortonjag 2008-06-24 13:27:02
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 24 2008, 01:05 PM) [snapback]465628[/snapback]
Did you ever receive your official reply from Companies House btw?

I've already been promised a definitive response within two working days-on two separate occasions. I e-mailed earlier today for a dedicated 'phone number as I'm not prepared to pay a fortune in calls to Wales, only to be passed from pillar to post. As soon as I hear one way or the other I'll post.

.....and before anybody jumps on the bandwagon (they are clearly incompetent) two blacks don't make a white!
mortonjag 2008-06-24 13:34:28
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 24 2008, 10:30 AM) [snapback]465553[/snapback]
Yes, but that's because for you knowledge is primarily something to flaunt in front of others rather than something to be enjoyed/used for its own value, so other people being able to discuss any given topic without first consulting you makes you feel threatened.

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mortonjag 2008-06-24 13:39:49
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 24 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]465613[/snapback]
Made a similar complaint about those 2 to ITV , no reply though . Pleat
telling us all about the wonderful player Philippe Lahme and then compares him to Kenny Sanson ??

The Croatia v Germany game they were going on about this would have been the game that closed all the offices up and down the country ?

What is it with you and e-mails to commercial organisations! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-24 13:42:40
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 24 2008, 10:46 AM) [snapback]465562[/snapback]
Love is blind mate. MJ's guide dog will confirm this tongue.gif

Yeah-shagged by us both in turn and you didn't know the difference, love. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-24 13:50:14
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 24 2008, 01:05 PM) [snapback]465627[/snapback]
With an increase in sales the Tele could bankrupt the town by making it a quarterly competition .

Fools and their money
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Some right stupid names FFS people can you imagine when they are old enough for their court appearances.

Ronaldhino Rae

Desiree Donald
mortonjag 2008-06-24 13:53:02
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jun 24 2008, 01:26 PM) [snapback]465643[/snapback]
Some great matches yesterday, especially Hewitt.

Andy Murray's on Centre at teatime!

Hope the wee sh1t gets humpt.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 14:22:37
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jun 24 2008, 02:11 PM) [snapback]465662[/snapback]
Why?

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'Cos he's a wee sh1t!
mortonjag 2008-06-24 14:25:34
QUOTE(Malt @ Jun 24 2008, 02:12 PM) [snapback]465663[/snapback]
I also felt that Collins comments suggested that we would sign a keeper and that would be us. Fingers crossed it is not!

Maybe we'll get an update on GMFC.net quite soon.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 14:31:38
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 24 2008, 02:22 PM) [snapback]465665[/snapback]
The fact that he's a petulant spoilt brat might have something to do with it. I wasn't too keen on Colin Montgomery (I know, he's a golfer) for similar reasons.

Exactly, AND has been adopted by the strawberries and cream set as their new BRITISH hero!

Mortonjag has little time for petulant spoilt brats-in case this has not come to the attention of fellow posters. rip.gif shutup.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-24 14:40:06
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 24 2008, 02:34 PM) [snapback]465672[/snapback]
And I have little time for british heroes bouncy.gif

It just seems to me that Andy Pandy is almost as much up his own arse as his Mother is a social climbing cow.

Andy Pandy still has time to grow up, mind you.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 14:48:33
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 24 2008, 02:44 PM) [snapback]465675[/snapback]
So far I have a success rate off 2 messages sent and no replies laugh.gif laugh.gif
I'll be getting a MUST DO BETTER from Tam McB if this keeps up

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You must cringe every time another blind fool comes out with-

'There's no point in asking on this pubic massage board-write to the club'!


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mortonjag 2008-06-24 14:51:22
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 24 2008, 02:47 PM) [snapback]465678[/snapback]
mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif !!! Arrggggggh!!! mad.gif mad.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-24 14:54:05
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 24 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]465682[/snapback]
Told you. dry.gif

Are we planning on giving them Huns MUNNY for Oopah Loompah?
mortonjag 2008-06-24 15:05:27
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Jun 24 2008, 02:57 PM) [snapback]465687[/snapback]
It's funny how we all make judgements on someone who we don't know through the media's tinted perception of them.

It's weird how the same doesn't usually apply to football. Kris Boyd is an absolute fanny, but I'll still cheer if he scores for Scotland (I don't imagine any Scotland fan wouldn't), the same goes for many Morton players.

I don't actually think Murray is the new British hero, he's built up by the media, but he doesn't have anything like the popularity of Henman, and doesn't seem to be particularly liked by especially the English public.

I actually quite like the guy, he's an obvious world class talent (something Scotland don't have many of), and he actually speaks his mind.

You know him then? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-24 15:10:41
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 24 2008, 03:05 PM) [snapback]465691[/snapback]
huh.gif wacko.gif
Couldn't agree more.
What's your point caller?? laugh.gif



If we're genuinely seeing Oompah Loompah and Stewart as our two goalies, and the money's all but spent, 'A SMALL SQUAD OF QUALITY PLAYERS' starts to sound similar to equating a fart with a nuclear blast.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 15:15:24
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jun 24 2008, 03:01 PM) [snapback]465688[/snapback]
Everything, dear Weegie!

Those two are as it as well.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 15:18:17
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 24 2008, 03:10 PM) [snapback]465694[/snapback]
So why can't SpoonTon like Murray without knowing him but you can't dislike him without knowing him? blink.gif

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I am Mortonjag.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 15:22:21
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 24 2008, 03:12 PM) [snapback]465697[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif

could have been worse they could have called her Tennerbag eek.gif

Tourniquet Townsley!
mortonjag 2008-06-24 15:25:35
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 24 2008, 03:12 PM) [snapback]465698[/snapback]
That's not the point I'm making but I think you know that.

It's just that Mugabe's better at hiding it than Saddam-why don't we tell the Yanks he's good at hiding oil?
mortonjag 2008-06-24 15:29:29
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 24 2008, 03:15 PM) [snapback]465701[/snapback]
I do have a chuckle laugh.gif

Let's do it again for fun-I'll probably get banned for a week but c'est la vie!


WRITE TO THE CLUB
mortonjag 2008-06-24 15:32:57
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jun 24 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]465715[/snapback]
I think the fact that people in the know like McEnroe, Connors and Borg, tennis greats, predict big things for him is indication enough of his potential.

He is still number 12 in the world, he has defeated Federer in ranking events twice, and will again I reckon.

Murray has a temper which hinders his game instead of giving it added strength at times, but I think he'll work on that. He is a good professional, he appears to have really worked hard on his conditioning and fitness. I couldn't give a rats if he is a moany wee git. For the record, he seems to be fairly popular with players on the tour. Okay he doesn't do impressions of other players like Djokavic, but he is well liked.

He is a talented tennis player, and will do something that Henman never did IMO, win a Slam. Best of luck to him this afternoon and for the rest of the season.

A talented spoilt brat is still a spoilt brat.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 15:42:28
QUOTE(EBu @ Jun 24 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]465722[/snapback]
The one thing to check out is the price of ink cartridges, I bought a lexmark X350 (i think) for £70 and it really does drain the ink, and with new cartridges costing £20 a time its pretty expensive, although you can refill them yourself the quality isn't quite as good.

The secret is to buy your cartridges in advance when they're on offer-either that, or get refilled, or DIY.

In the last five years I've had an Epson, a Canon, and a Lexmark-all basic models, and for all round convenience I really rate the Lexmark.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 15:46:04
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 24 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]465723[/snapback]
BUT DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH FOR A REPLY rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-24 15:49:15
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 24 2008, 03:42 PM) [snapback]465729[/snapback]
Intra Venus Armstrong



Sir Inge Isaacs
mortonjag 2008-06-24 16:00:57
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jun 24 2008, 01:15 PM) [snapback]465635[/snapback]
I can't really be bothered with next season as it is tbh, and if we re-sign that clown then I think I might start watching cricket instead. The guy is easily the worst goalkeeper I have ever seen, an utter joke. If Irons really thinks Robinson is good enough, then he can bugger off as well.
Roddy McKenzie anyone? Once described as one of the best keepers in Scotland by none other than Craig Gordon, been released by Dunfermline - no shame when their first choice goalie is Paul Gallagher.

I share your frustrations.

One point in all this. How much say is Irons having, and how much are his hands being tied?
mortonjag 2008-06-24 16:33:37
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 24 2008, 01:11 PM) [snapback]465634[/snapback]

Hey Spurtle-that was a nice wee choon-I doubt if a pouffe would sing in the rain without an umbrella.

QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Jun 24 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]465740[/snapback]
What I mean is I quite like the impression I get. Partly through his honesty, partly because he's a very good and very entertaining Tennis player. And I'll back him cause he's Scottish. It's a strange concept really, but people tend to get behind Sportspeople from their own country...

And I wasn't removing myself from the 'All'. I get my perception of him the same way anyone else on here does, and inevitably I come to conclusions based on that. All I was saying was that as football fans we don't make the decision to support our team or not based on the personality of the players, but in other sports (the ones we care less about) we seem to make judgements on whether to want them to win or not based on this.

When one watches Wimbledon, one identifies with individual personalities.

The Andy Pandy scenario is that of the talented sprog of a well heeled and upwardly mobile Dunblane socialite behaving like the spoilt little Mummy's boy he is. He's not doing it for team mates, and he CERTAINLY isn't doing it to entertain fans. It's all about 'ME'-or more correctly, about what Mummy has programmed me to be.

That is crass. Hope he gets humpt.

QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 24 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]465742[/snapback]
Wimbledon, Are you excited ?
Absolutely creaming myself biggrin.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-24 16:39:51
QUOTE(McCauley87 @ Jun 24 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]465752[/snapback]
Speaking of pantos, a charity panto for Paranoid Schizophrenic homosexuals descended into chaos last night when someone shouted "he's behind you"

Surprised he didn't drop his trousers, squealing 'I was mistaken'.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 16:53:04 Irrespective of Robinson's potential, he's simply not what we need. Several players upped their game near the end of last season, including Super Kev, and Wakey. That doesn't make them good players.

Robinson's still raw and inexperienced, and we'd been promised a small squad of 'quality' players.

David Irons currently has as much credibility at Cappielow as any manager since Rae took over. I think he's a good guy, and I also think he's a smart guy.

So far as I can see he's managed to beef up the squad, and I believe we'll cope better than last season, even as we stand. I'm bitterly disappointed to discover, as I always suspected, that nothing seems to have changed behind the scenes. The purse strings are drawn tight, and Davie's had to make do.

Don't be in the slightest surprised if he's away from here in a couple of seasons-maybe sooner.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 16:57:59
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jun 24 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]465756[/snapback]
You really are a wind-up merchant old bean? laugh.gif

I don't think he will get humpt, if he does, I'll buy you a pie at the next match at Scapa!

Your confidence is astonishing! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-24 17:07:44
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Jun 24 2008, 04:58 PM) [snapback]465770[/snapback]
It must be nice in your simple world, where what seems obvious to you is always correct rolleyes.gif Seriously though, there's more to it than that. Andy Murray, clearly represents Scotland or Britain. You see it in the wrists bands he wears, or when he plays in the Davis Cup, or when people from other countries look into his background. It's the same thing with a player like James McFadden playing in the Premiership, people want to see him play well down there because he is Scottish and represents Scottish football. Andy Murray represents Scottish sport. Not that i'm saying that you must support Andy Murray, just that I think it's strange that so many wouldn't back him because they don't like the impression they get of him through the media. And not just in a positive way i.e. they don't care, but in a negative way i.e. they actively want him to lose.
I can't imagine what your mother was like! blink.gif

My mother is still alive and very much kicking. Six of us you know-all brought up on a solitary teachers's salary-patches on the blazer elbows, hand down shirts, one after the other into the weekly bath, and all out doing paper rounds stuff. We all got a University Education at proper Universities too!

Not much chance of any of us becoming a wee ponce like your Andy Pandy.

Would you like to meet my Mum. She did us proud, and hopefully we did the same for her. She could tell you a few stories, and she makes fantastic ginger snaps.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 17:57:41
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jun 24 2008, 04:47 PM) [snapback]465765[/snapback]
There is a slight possibility that we may be playing too many games before the season has started though, as I think 9 is a bit too much, although the rest of the post is spot on. I'm confident that attitude wise we'll be fine. Ability, on the other hand...

Exactly-we're already tied to a pretty unimaginative season IMO. We'll make ourselves hard to beat, and we'll probably get our fair share of goals, but we can forget attractive attacking football, and that's what REALLY pulls in the crowds. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-24 18:01:16
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jun 24 2008, 05:22 PM) [snapback]465785[/snapback]
Toke Doak

Spliff McGiff

Puffy McGuffie
mortonjag 2008-06-24 18:10:25
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Jun 24 2008, 05:13 PM) [snapback]465779[/snapback]
I said when because I was asking about the period in which she programmed you...
You actually said 'I can't imagine what your mother WAS like'. rolleyes.gif
If it's you she kicks so much then I think that explains a lot!
I actually said 'She's still alive and very much kicking'! laugh.gif
That's an awful poncey thing to say for someone who claims he isn't a ponce!

There's nothing poncey about Proper Universities you know-I'm not talking about poncey Universities-just Proper ones.

...and I DO hope that wee ponce Murray gets humpt rid raw! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-24 18:15:22
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jun 24 2008, 06:12 PM) [snapback]465803[/snapback]
You like to come over as knowledgeable but that chip on your shoulder continues to colour your view on everything. You know all about Andy Murray, all about his mother, his family’s roots, his motivation. The list is long and just as boring as you are. Scotland produces a world class talent once in a decade and because he is not one of six children brought up on one salary with patches in his blazer (you had a blazer, you must be posh) you write him off. To succeed he needs to be single minded. He wants to be more than an also ran. If you hope he loses then I presume you want someone else to win or as usual are you just adding your tuppence worth because you think we all need your wisdom.

Andy Murray has had to cuddle up to the English based media but his true colours are displayed on the court.

I have tried to have a rational discussion but you are still so full of your own importance that it's impossible. I shall come back in six months and see if you have matured any. thumbdown.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-24 18:22:59
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 24 2008, 06:04 PM) [snapback]465796[/snapback]
Does it feck! Being at the top of the league pulls in the crowds, regardless of the football these days!

All I want is more wins, I'd be happy with that happy.gif

Aye it does son, and being at the top of the league AND playing attractive attacking football will ALWAYS pull in much bigger crowds than unimaginative single goal 'grind it out' pish a la JM.

The trouble is that you're too young to remember attractive attacking football at Scapa-let alone dare to contradict mortonjag.

You're too c*cky for your own good and Fing has your card marked. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-24 18:37:34
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 24 2008, 06:30 PM) [snapback]465811[/snapback]
What do we need then?

Experience
I agree with that, but everyone has to start out somewhere. Heck, I bet you were 'raw and inexperienced' at one point MJ wink.gif

Don't be daft.

Why is that?

Because.

Given the current football climate, that would be the same scenario up and down the country so doesn't apply more to Morton than it does to, say, Rangers or Celtic.

Not according to Shoogly's announcement when DI/DC arrived! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-24 18:41:52
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 24 2008, 06:35 PM) [snapback]465814[/snapback]
Bit too idealistic there. Attractive, attacking football doesn't always win matches, and if teams don't win matches then crowds will drop.

Only way crowds will come flocking back is if we're challenging at the top of the league, regardless of the quality of football (see Division Three season).

Did you bother to READ what I wrote? I'd suggest that attacking football which doesn't produce goals is unnatractive.

Pity I always have to spell things out! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-24 18:45:58
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 24 2008, 06:14 PM) [snapback]465804[/snapback]
If this were an important and worthwhile sport, this argument might be relevant.

Tennis is for pouffes, ponces, and girls.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 05:34:25
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jun 23 2008, 10:14 PM) [snapback]465404[/snapback]
This board has been infected, what we need to cure this disease is a physician ohmy.gif ... No change that I'd rather just let this message board die than have it cured by a passed his sell by date quack. wacko.gif

I'll take that in the spirit of humour Measles. It could be construed differently. Just don't go calling me a POUFFE.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 05:48:39
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 24 2008, 11:31 PM) [snapback]465982[/snapback]
****!

You are a POUFFE

I have the PROUFFE blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-25 05:52:27
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 24 2008, 06:53 PM) [snapback]465832[/snapback]
MJ, you claimed you require BOTH attractive football and a challenge at the top of the league to get the crowds in. I merely pointed out that you don't.

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QUOTE(Tontaster @ Jun 24 2008, 10:51 PM) [snapback]465946[/snapback]
If Spoonsy Gets fit and works hard he will score a lot of goals

Spoonsy was, is, and always will be a striker.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 06:02:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 25 2008, 01:05 AM) [snapback]466015[/snapback]
mortonjag - he is expecting to hear the truth today.

Hopeful of newt.


It helps none that Companies House business is run in Wales! I suspect I've been wrong in asking the questions in English. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-25 06:06:39
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 24 2008, 07:19 PM) [snapback]465848[/snapback]
you'll have to speak to Mr Rae rolleyes.gif

shoooosh If I tell you I may have to kill you unsure.gif

what does it say in the
matchday programme happy.gif
er you again mad.gif

don't you read the Telegraph blush.gif

laugh.gif

You've been in contact too!!! blush.gif

QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jun 24 2008, 08:08 PM) [snapback]465861[/snapback]
Hence the reason the register entry on GMFC isn't up-to-date, or shouldn't I let the facts get in the way of a good story Ernie? dry.gif

Time will tell Smiffy.

QUOTE(Mick @ Jun 24 2008, 09:35 PM) [snapback]465894[/snapback]
Other than myself, I don't represent anyone on here.

As an aside, I tend not to bother too much with stats. Might be interesting to know how many of both those counts belong to you. Given your form, I'd say more than a few.....

mellow.gif

Nice to know you're into cloning.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 06:17:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 25 2008, 06:07 AM) [snapback]466029[/snapback]
Sorry, mortonjag, I thought you were going to hear from the horse's mouth.

blush.gif

Oh no Newt, but I may be billing the 'horse' for my efforts to obtain the truth, when the said 'horse' could have posted a simple reassurance on GMFC.net.

I wonder increasingly why that hasn't been done! ph34r.gif


To services rendered:


Air fares
Hotel bills
Taxi fares


for a grand total of £2,300.39.


I'm just a poor little Morton fan who can't afford to be jetting all over the place. I shall appeal to 'the club' as a fellow Greenockian, and urge 'the club' to settle by return.

I suspect 'the club' may argue that 'the club' did not commission this service. Do you think it's worth a try. I'll give the money to Andy M in aid of my self aggrandisement.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 06:28:27
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 24 2008, 09:49 PM) [snapback]465904[/snapback]
That's true Col. But then might we have geezers on the SBC telling us that Scotland would've done better than France or Italy? The BBC do have a point about the multi-national make-up of their panel. Too bad Scotland is (mis)represented by that dick Hansen. laugh.gif



Television pundit and journalist

After rejecting the idea of management, when he retired from football in 1991 he planned to take three months off. After his wife pointed out that during his rest period, the telephone had not rung once, he started calling the networks!


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mortonjag 2008-06-25 06:34:43
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 24 2008, 09:57 PM) [snapback]465907[/snapback]
cider vinegar is excellent but you wouldn't feel the benefits for a few weeks. Two tablespoons in cooled boiled water first thing. smile.gif

By which route LL? blush.gif


My father in law (or ex-father in law)-which is it when you've divorced-has been drinking apple cider vinegar for about 40 years. He's now 92 and all but dead, but he's really done quite well. He's consumed a fair bit of alcohol during that period also.



DAZZA-as Boozy says it will pass off. Try rubbing in anti-inflammatory ointment like ibuprofen or diclofenac before and after you exercise, but as they say, no pain,no gain.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 06:43:25
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 24 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]465808[/snapback]
he sees a younger version of himself, and he used to love touching himself when he could still get it up...suppose i just bring back memories.
laugh.gif

Don't get big ideas my wee chookie hen.

QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 24 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]465852[/snapback]
i think i'm going to be sick

Excellent-vomitus is infinitely preferable to keech.

QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 24 2008, 11:18 PM) [snapback]465969[/snapback]
I love all you people! Mwah Mwah wub.gif

You will learn LL-universal love doesn't work.

I find that hating somebody every day helps me through life's little journey. It doesn't need to be anybody in particular. That would be discriminative.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 06:49:27
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 24 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]465839[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2008-06-25 06:53:10
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 24 2008, 09:03 PM) [snapback]465881[/snapback]
She's back..... wub.gif

And no lewd comments about this wonderful woman please. mad.gif

Kirsty Young is about as wholesome as concentrated strychnine.

I'd rather shag a chilli pepper.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 06:58:32
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 24 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]465883[/snapback]
Anti - SNP lies from that well known Labour Rag The Herald. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 24 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]465893[/snapback]
Anyone know why SNP Ceilidh Greenock for Friday night has been cancelled unsure.gif

Spurtle had a prior engagement with his manicurist.

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 24 2008, 09:35 PM) [snapback]465895[/snapback]
Lack of Polish bar staff.

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It's always the same with Spurtle et al. If they don't appear on an SNP related thread within 5 milliseconds, you know it's the truth.

mortonjag 2008-06-25 07:05:26
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 24 2008, 06:47 PM) [snapback]465826[/snapback]
The selling of his book on the back of the Dunblane massacre did it for me.


Aye, very good son. One day you'll get a shag.



QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 24 2008, 11:46 PM) [snapback]465987[/snapback]
I am quite glad that Andy Murray doesn't have the same hype with the English as Henman had.

Clearly they don't see him as one of their own, there's a sort of polite recoginition and obviously he gets decent support but nothing like the hysteria that was built up during Tim's annual march to the Wimbledon Quarter Finals.

Murray is a different player than Henman. Henman really only had a chance of winning at Wimbledon, and he built his game up as such. Murray has the class to stay in the top 10 for a few years and win tournaments each year.

Ok, I don't think he's a Federer, Nadal or Djokovic, but on his day he may just get a run going long enough to take a slam.

In saying that, his record in terms of rankings etc at 21 is pretty similar to Federer at that stage in his career. And if Murray hadn't been injured last summer he'd be a permanent top 10 (as he will be the Monday after Wimbledon).

Certainly his style is very watchable and he should gain decent Tennis fans as admirers because of it, rather than these English toffs wrapped in a Union Jack whom think Tennis exists only 2 weeks of the year.

Another copy and paste from Professor Piehole, the wee boy who makes Walter Mitty look like Superman.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 07:10:10
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 25 2008, 12:35 AM) [snapback]466004[/snapback]
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At least it was posted after the watershed.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 07:13:37
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 25 2008, 12:58 AM) [snapback]466010[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I had been thinking similarly and more recently.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 07:18:41
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 24 2008, 10:53 PM) [snapback]465950[/snapback]
Is the pump working ?

Drain the water out . Then take the back cover off .

Where the waste hose is attached is the pump what might be wrong is that something could be stuck in the impeller .

You may have to remove the pump from the hose that connects to the sump of the drum .

Usually its wires from Bras . the wifes underwires in my case .

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Washing machine BUST

Last time I had to do it, it was a hairclip and a penny Chris. It's nice to see that some posters are not handless! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 25 2008, 12:36 AM) [snapback]466005[/snapback]
F'cking mortonjag. dry.gif

.............is pure bliss.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 07:29:26
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 25 2008, 07:17 AM) [snapback]466044[/snapback]
Watch it, the Essen Pee's copying Zanu PF. unsure.gif

Spurtle doesn't scare me Mr Bam-the only thing which scares me on this pubic massage board is the gradual realisation of how low our National values have sunk.

Mere nappy rashers, and jumped up young whipper snappers regularly think they know better than their elders and betters.

That would be bad enough in itself, but some of the petty jealousies on here are extremely worrying-folk getting themselves whipped into a frenzy over a retired bin man posing as a quack is the stuff of laughter/tears.

I think you get it a bit easier as 'a teacher', which is rather unfair considering you drove the bloody lorry.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 07:39:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 25 2008, 07:21 AM) [snapback]466049[/snapback]
now ... what rhymes with bliss ?

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A pubic massage poster-Chris
In public was bursting to piss
He pulled out his knob
and had finished the job
when a big polis yelled 'What is this'?
mortonjag 2008-06-25 07:42:20
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 25 2008, 07:37 AM) [snapback]466059[/snapback]
Perhaps Ms Young would prefer that you did.

Many have made that mistake.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 07:46:05
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 23 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]465145[/snapback]
Furking huns and tims! mad.gif

Pre-occupation with fornication often masks sexual frustration.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 07:52:34
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 25 2008, 07:46 AM) [snapback]466063[/snapback]
laugh.gif
You must've grown fond of chilli peppers by now.

I am Mr Edwards-like my Dad who was stationed in New Guinea for much of the 'War' I've acquired a very 'hot' palate.

Just a cautionary tale (from a somewhat embarrassing personal experience). If you're planning on getting amorous in a slightly more informed way than that of the 'wham bang' crowd who populate this massage board-ALWAYS wash your hands thoroughly after chopping chillies! blush.gif blush.gif blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-25 07:54:31
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 25 2008, 07:50 AM) [snapback]466066[/snapback]
Which one do you know better, Andy Murray or Kirsty Young?

Kirsty, but I'd much prefer to shag Murray.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 08:34:56
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 25 2008, 08:04 AM) [snapback]466070[/snapback]
laugh.gif
Has Mentaljag emerged from the closet?

Are you calling Mortonjag a pouffe?

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 25 2008, 08:16 AM) [snapback]466071[/snapback]
I've heard Murray is good between the sheets but makes too much of a racquet................... unsure.gif

He prefers to be on top and squeals like a spoilt child when his service goes wide.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 08:37:52
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 25 2008, 08:34 AM) [snapback]466073[/snapback]
My old boss says you never have a 'problem' only a 'solution opportunity'.
So given the flak you've been getting about the 'late night adults only forum, where the air can get a little blue' why not create a forum specifically for the whingers on the board? It could be there not just for those wishing to complain about an English programme being too English or Rangers supporters being too thick but a whole myriad of pointless rubbish.
It could be called 'Complaints corner' or something like that. They post their complaints there and other sanctimonious posters can get together and talk about the injustice of it all. Or a bunch of impotent men can get themselves into a frenzy of non-activity, as someone much cleverer than me once said.
I think it's a winner.

I wish to complain vigorously about self opinionated clowns who suggest daft forums.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 09:08:50
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 25 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]466080[/snapback]
You must be right Newton. Europeans in the twenty first century are much too 'enlightened' to suffer from it now.

Shouldn't that be pre-fixed by 'some', Mr. Edwards?
mortonjag 2008-06-25 09:11:22
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 25 2008, 08:40 AM) [snapback]466076[/snapback]
Well help me establish this forum and you can.


I wish to complain about self opinionated clowns who use 'can' in place of 'may'.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 09:13:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 25 2008, 09:10 AM) [snapback]466087[/snapback]
Gidday David,

It seems to me that you are repeating yourself.

Or are you implying that there is one tribe north of, and one tribe south of Hadrian's Wall ?

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There's surely a tribe North West of Bristol.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 09:54:02
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Jun 25 2008, 08:53 AM) [snapback]466081[/snapback]
....................and now in the 'infallibility v senility' dilemma the balance is somewhat restored!

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mortonjag 2008-06-25 10:03:53
QUOTE(EBu @ Jun 25 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]466095[/snapback]
Cant be bothered trwaling through 5 pages to see if this has been mentioned:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...ted/7472796.stm

Spoonsy, Wakey, LEAFY, and Graham, are ALL strikers, and that's more than enough in a squad of some seventeen potential first team players.

We STILL need a goalie, wingers, and full backs, before our squad will be anything like complete.

We ain't going to get all of those, and we're in for another season of compromise.

I just wish we had a wee drop of money to spend.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 10:09:16
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 25 2008, 09:58 AM) [snapback]466099[/snapback]
So how do you explain the improvement in Greacen and Harding? That was quite obviously down to the arrival of the new management and the evidence suggest it's the same with Robinson.

We can't agree on anything these days! laugh.gif

It's quite simple really-Greacen, and Harding, and Wakey, and Kev were definitely more MOTIVATED but definitely NOT better players than they had previously proved they could be.

Robinson always struck me as an accident waiting to happen, but he was a more motivated accident waiting to happen.

mortonjag 2008-06-25 10:14:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 25 2008, 09:12 AM) [snapback]466090[/snapback]
That's OK, mortonjag.

You can and you may and perhaps you should.

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Then I shall, just as soon as our new complaints forum is open.

I shall complain about many, many things, and I shall demand many, many answers of many, many people, and I WILL not be ignored!
mortonjag 2008-06-25 10:16:57
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Jun 25 2008, 10:10 AM) [snapback]466103[/snapback]
Shhhhhhhh......
A clean shot between the eyes by a .50 cal sniper rifle (from 2 miles away) ought to do it....

Just make it clean please. I detest waste.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 10:20:28
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 25 2008, 10:01 AM) [snapback]466100[/snapback]
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My money would've been on midTONs to weigh in and scud him with that thing he keeps in his car door. ph34r.gif

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He's got one too! shutup.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-25 11:09:58
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 25 2008, 10:46 AM) [snapback]466122[/snapback]
Morton played attractive attacking football as recently as the first half of 2003/04 under John McCormack.

I'm well aware of that! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-25 11:13:23
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jun 25 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]466135[/snapback]
Haven't read this whole thread but the first player that sprung to my mind was bobby thompson, i also remember one of the big danish guys (lars christiansen i think) being a bit of a nutter (in a hard case sense) as well.

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mortonjag 2008-06-25 11:18:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 25 2008, 10:19 AM) [snapback]466108[/snapback]
Will or shall ?

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WILL NOT


I REPEAT,
WILL NOT
mortonjag 2008-06-25 11:22:50
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Jun 25 2008, 10:48 AM) [snapback]466125[/snapback]
Murray is a Scottish lad trying to get to the top of his profession, if that makes him a spoilt brat, a p***k etc then so be it. I like his honesty in interviews and the fact he shows his allegiance with Saltires etc on his clothes. Some of u come out with such s*** at times its cringeworthy!! unsure.gif
Because he wasn't brought up in slum, shows passion on the court & dares to say whats on his mind he is a spoilt brat & a dick? huh.gif

Wimbledon is awright btw. wink.gif

I'd blame it more on his Mummy.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 11:24:40
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 25 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]466129[/snapback]
My brother-in-law is a writer and I've been trying to get him to create the gameshow 'Celebrity Carcass'. Bodies of famous people are exhumed and clues given about the identity. Points are awarded for each correct answer and we all know what points make.

Promotion?
mortonjag 2008-06-25 11:26:33
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 25 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]466121[/snapback]
I can't comment because I don't know a thing about it, not being a member of the SNP ye see rolleyes.gif

That's a first Spurtle! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-25 11:56:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 25 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]466159[/snapback]
Sorry, TAFKAC, I had a Polish employee by the name of Tiede.

but, we never drank anything but Lech or Tyskie.

Na zdrowie.

Not another of your long line of au pair girls newt! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-25 11:59:59
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 25 2008, 11:31 AM) [snapback]466157[/snapback]
Universal. Trick .Universal wub.gif

You must get Mrs Trick a stylist. Who wears shoes with laces ohmy.gif

Maybe Trick has been hiding a dark secret!
mortonjag 2008-06-25 12:03:46
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 25 2008, 12:00 PM) [snapback]466174[/snapback]
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 25 2008, 12:36 AM)
F'cking mortonjag.

.............is pure bliss.

This post has been edited by mortonjag: Today, 06:32 PM
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Does this mean what I think it means ??

Are you calling Deego a pouffe?
mortonjag 2008-06-25 12:05:54
QUOTE(Morticia @ Jun 25 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]466171[/snapback]
If you are sitting next to someone who irritates you on a plane, train or bus, follow these instructions: (and maybe say goodbye!)
1. Quietly and calmly open up your laptop case.
2. Remove your laptop.
3. Start up
4. Make sure the guy who is annoying you, can see the screen.
5. Close your eyes and tilt your head up to the sky.
6. Then hit this link

This Link

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mortonjag 2008-06-25 13:40:54 ** High Priority **


GREENOCK-MORTON FC LIMITED - Company number SC3264

Thank you for your e-mail addressed to Ms Walters at Companies House, Cardiff. Your enquiry has been directed to me for reply as manager of the document examination department section of Companies House, Edinburgh.

Firstly please accept my apologies for the delay in replying to your initial enquiry.

I have checked our records for the above company and note that Mr Alistair Donald we do not appear to have received confirmation of his appointment as a director to Greenock-Morton football club. This maybe an oversight on the part of the company or it's agents, however until his appointment is received and registered at Companies House, on the appropriate statutory form, he will not be designated as a director for Greenock-Morton FC Limited.

If you require further information or assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me directly on: 0131 535 5843 or at jsclater@companieshouse.gov.uk

Yours sincerely

John Sclater
Document Examination Section
Companies House
Edinburgh
mortonjag 2008-06-25 14:04:46
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jun 25 2008, 01:45 PM) [snapback]466199[/snapback]
Has a new bar opened up there ??? happy.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-25 14:08:06
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 25 2008, 12:44 PM) [snapback]466187[/snapback]
Stop being a sarky bitch. There will be NO racism allowed in the new forum, I can assure you.

not even to pouffes.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 14:12:44
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 25 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]466193[/snapback]
Maybe! A woman over the age of 20 wearing shoes with laces, to me anyway, brings to mind. A wee Scottish wummin with her sturdy hat, sturdy coat(with arms folded over a sturdy bosom) and rerr sturdy brown shoes with laces (The cover of Finding Peggy)

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New shoes, new shoes,
Red and pink and blue shoes.
Tell me, what would you choose,
If they’d let us buy?

Buckle shoes, bow shoes,
Pretty pointy-toe shoes,
Strappy, cappy low shoes;
Let’s have some to try.

Bright shoes, white shoes,
Dandy-dance-by-night shoes,
Perhaps-a-little-tight shoes,
Like some? So would I.

BUT

Flat shoes, fat shoes,
Stump-along-like-that shoes,
Wipe-them-on-the-mat shoes,
That’s the sort they’ll buy.


- Frida Wolfe -


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mortonjag 2008-06-25 14:16:23
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Jun 24 2008, 04:11 AM) [snapback]465476[/snapback]
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It is estimated West Dunbartonshire, with 34 primary schools, would need an additional 21 teachers to deliver the reduction costing in excess of £800,000 a year.
Jeez, about 40k a year to teach 5 year olds? Where do I sign up
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Perhaps the apparent innumeracy is the result of cutbacks of previous years-Spurtle take note!!!
mortonjag 2008-06-25 14:19:48
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 25 2008, 01:25 PM) [snapback]466194[/snapback]
like Henman did. 

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mortonjag 2008-06-25 14:40:37
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 25 2008, 02:14 PM) [snapback]466209[/snapback]
sounds like a great idea mate. Thai food is excellent and i am sure that you would do a roaring trade. Might i suggest that i think you could do rather well with a sit in restaurant doing Thai food too.

That was my original suggestion to WDE, Greacen.

'Take away' food is a hugely competitive market for a not necessarily very discriminating public.

Folk will always pay to eat out, particularly in a novel setting with high quality food and personal service.

CARPE DIEM!
mortonjag 2008-06-25 15:14:38
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jun 25 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]466219[/snapback]
he either is or he isnt! (companies house say no, morton "appear" to be saying he is.. (apart from the deathly silence on the subject now)

what did the club tell you MJ?.... apart from to fck off! laugh.gif

a question that really should be cleared up once and for all... if only to bury this thread as it will not go away until its answered.

It maybe perfectly innocent, i do not understand the need for any confusion on this simple question. . . It shouldnt take a fortnight PLUS to get an answer to the question.

not the greatest at PR our morton......



QUOTE(cmdc @ Jun 25 2008, 02:54 PM) [snapback]466220[/snapback]
What responses have people had when they have asked the club directly?




The club has had more than ample time to provide documentation to Companies House since this thread was started. It appears that that has not been done. Questions asked of the Trust by myself, and by a Trust member remain unanswered.

Given the clubs's penchant for ignoring unwanted communications, I chose not to ask directly until Companies House had clarified its position.

I have now e-mailed the club, as follows, and asked directly for their view of the situation.

There is some unrest regarding Mr Alistair Donald. He is not, and has never been listed at Companies House as a Director of Greenock Morton.

What is the club’s position?


Ernie Newall
mortonjag 2008-06-25 15:34:06 Interlaken and the Bernese Oberland.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 15:39:22
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 25 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]466233[/snapback]
As i have stated on many times the trust knows just what was made public and we are attempting to get the trust members question answered.......

'Attempting' seems to be the operative word, despite the Trust being represented on the bloody Board of Directors.

Well I'm now 'attempting' too, and my efforts are out in the open.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 15:41:19
QUOTE(cmdc @ Jun 25 2008, 03:30 PM) [snapback]466232[/snapback]
Who was that addressed to? Gillian?

TBH, a thread on an unofficial messageboard, in the close season, is not really something I would expect the club to respond directly to, if they are even aware of it. The direct question is a different matter, so I hope you get a reply.

It isn't an issue which greatly troubles me, although the Mike Peden fiasco does show that it is a reasonable enough question to ask, and expect some kind of answer to...

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I sent two separate e-mails to two separate enquiry facilities at the club! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-25 17:04:48
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jun 25 2008, 04:41 PM) [snapback]466265[/snapback]
Actually , has it not occurred to anyone that the Trust have just got MJ to do their dirty work for them. That they may have known all along that AD wasn't a director but rather than rock the shoogly boat, for whatever reason people may be unaware of , that they got some other mug to do it for them. If that's the case then they deserve more credit than they are getting. Very astute Mr Trust very astute. Setting up MJ to be the pain in the arse at Cappielow on your behalf.
Folk, who don't have long memories, forget that some of the guys associated with the Trust were quite adept at getting info on Scott and Co when others were unable. You may be underestimating their shrewdness and guile.

Spot Ton,Mr Trust Spot Ton. dry.gif

Mortonjag is very happy to have been of service. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-25 17:13:07
QUOTE(mortonboi @ Jun 25 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]466263[/snapback]
a dont think dalgleish is better than any of the strikers we have

Dalglish-not trying to be a smart arse, but it's my partner'sname and she gets upset when folk spell it wrongly! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-25 17:16:42
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 25 2008, 04:56 PM) [snapback]466279[/snapback]
Pardon my ignorance Puggsy, but who is that fine looking filly?

Puggsy's Mummy! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-25 17:36:25
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 25 2008, 05:20 PM) [snapback]466292[/snapback]
There is some unrest regarding Mr Alistair Donald. He is not, and has never been listed at Companies House as a Director of Greenock Morton.

What is the club’s position?
Ernie Newall

Would you say that 'unrest' was accurate MJ ? Is it not more of a case that a number of supporters had 'expressed an interest' in Mr Donalds status at the club. I just think unrest is overstating it.
Also the email is a little 'curt' and perhaps reveals your ill feeling towards the Raes. Just my obs.

I have said there is SOME
unrest-almost 26,000 views, (of which we've had nearly 2,500 TODAY), and 414 posts would suggest more than passing interest.

You think 'unrest' is overstating it-good for you Cloth Ears! ph34r.gif I don't. rolleyes.gif

The e-mail is entirely civilised, and to the point. It was written by Dr Ernie Newall-not that old Fud and renowned 'bawbag' Mortonjag, who may often have appeared ill disposed to The Chairman. blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-25 17:47:43
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 25 2008, 05:22 PM) [snapback]466293[/snapback]
pad nuer prik thai oon rolleyes.gif

Bandage one's penis? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-25 17:49:42
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 25 2008, 05:29 PM) [snapback]466295[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED...you'd still be safer on the pill!
mortonjag 2008-06-25 17:54:11
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 25 2008, 05:44 PM) [snapback]466305[/snapback]
Re the 414 posts, just checked - you and Chrissiboi account for 338 of those unsure.gif
Edit to add - thanks for taking the trouble to find out this piece of information - quite interesting.

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Little pink botty skelping time for you! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-25 17:57:50
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 25 2008, 05:48 PM) [snapback]466307[/snapback]
Don't expect a response from the club right away, DDF has been spotted in 'Arran 'again'. ph34r.gif

If I don't get a response within 24 hours, I shall be disappointed but unsurprised.

Getting the answer may take much longer, but the answer will be got.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 18:06:12
QUOTE(Mags @ Jun 25 2008, 05:10 PM) [snapback]466287[/snapback]
That was Kieran McAnespie.He's going for an MRI scan on his hip today.... said he's been waiting to have it done since January..!!
Mags.


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Affordable Accessible MRI
www.vistadiagnostics.co.uk High quality, immediate MRI scans in Central London from £200


Shoogly indeed appears skint!
mortonjag 2008-06-25 18:12:26
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 25 2008, 06:08 PM) [snapback]466314[/snapback]
Hi , Can I say how much I love FudgyWudgy's and I am always fubbling in my trouser pocket for some of those Striped Balls , oh how I love sooking on them .
Can I also say what a marvellous struggle you have made in getting the club to the heady heights of a relegation battle for 1st Division survival .
yours respectfully ,
mortonjag .

PS Alistair Donald whats the sketch ?(a) Director , (b)nonexec ,©planning a buyout (d)doesn't exist

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PPS I'd stick my tongue right up yer erse if it wasn't for half a dozen others permanently lodged there.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 18:18:43
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 25 2008, 05:55 PM) [snapback]466310[/snapback]
The caps are so inelegant................

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDShe'd DEFINITELY be safer on the pill!
mortonjag 2008-06-25 18:20:33
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 25 2008, 05:58 PM) [snapback]466312[/snapback]
Anna Ivanovic.

Annie Johnson
mortonjag 2008-06-25 18:23:46
QUOTE(Yoda @ Jun 25 2008, 06:09 PM) [snapback]466316[/snapback]
Or...you could just send in fing.:-)

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SHH-he's in training for something much closer to home!
mortonjag 2008-06-25 18:31:13
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 25 2008, 06:19 PM) [snapback]466325[/snapback]
You can't say that , its just not true I can think of at least 10 who can be found in that scenario . thumbup2.gif


Talking of tongues, the Shooglyphile Sycophant Society has gone awfy quiet awfy quick!

Maybe they're off to the seaside for some donkey rides, or more likely they're concocting death threats in their play pens.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 18:36:09
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jun 25 2008, 06:25 PM) [snapback]466329[/snapback]
I didn't realise the monkey had a surname.

Anyway, I agree that Paul Dalglish is no better than what we currently have and I wouldn't want to sign him. If we are to bring in another striker, they should give us a different option (and probably better) than what we currently have. Someone in the mould of the wee neddish looking number 9 with the orange boots who played for Livi against us at Scappa last season, though he couldn't finish his dinner that day. Unfortunately there are not too many good strikers around the lower divisions that would be realistic targets.

Also, if they could score 20 goals a season, that would be good too!



He's very proud of his name: Monkey Dalglish-Newall.

He never lets you miss out the hyphen, though his friends call him 'Munx'.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 19:22:16
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jun 25 2008, 06:38 PM) [snapback]466334[/snapback]
Fans tend to get behind a team when there is a feeling that they are giving 100%. Under JM this year that was simply not the case and the fans turned on the players and management because of it. Now under DI things have changed in a very positive way and the fans are getting behind the team a lot more.

Our 'away' fans were tremendous in the Cup tie at Palmerston, though I'm damned if I remember whom we were playing. They were generally extremely supportive throughout the season.

If the fans REALLY turned on anyone it was more likely to have been Mr Rae-though I'm sure he didn't intend to offend them-more just a case of innocently opening his mouth and letting his belly rumble.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 19:26:52 The Turks should really be out already. I'm supporting the Christians. Is that naughty? blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-25 19:30:29
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 25 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]466335[/snapback]
WDE - This sounds like it could be a good venture.

I'd certainly try out a Thai place in the town, and I think if you kept overheads low you could certainly make a living at it even if it took you a while to establish a trade.

However... this is the West of Scotland and I think you may struggle unless you catered for the chip eating locals as well

Chinese places here have evolved as such that the food they serve would be almost unrecogniseable to your Chinese citizen. So I guess you may be shooting yourself in the foot somewhat if you didn't try and cater for as many folk as possible.

Best of luck with it all.

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Just open a chippy WDE-you KNOW it makes sense-Piehole told you.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 19:32:48
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 25 2008, 07:15 PM) [snapback]466350[/snapback]
I care nothing for political correctness. If you think that one race is superior to another then I'd care to disagree.

I'd put 100 metres ahead of three legged any day.

Should I be ashamed?
mortonjag 2008-06-25 20:43:11
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 25 2008, 08:39 PM) [snapback]466396[/snapback]
Whit's yir MSN?

I'm not sure what that means darling, but feel free to pm me if you wish! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-25 20:48:33 We already have four strikers-we don't need more and anyway, we're skint.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 21:58:08 Jimbo's qualities have more than been compensated for by new midfield signings.

He now has to be assessed as an effective attack force, and he's currently FAR from the finished article. If we start getting decent balls into the box, we have the guys who can score. In that capacity Jimbo and Kev are poor. I'd happily have seen them both go for a couple of decent wingers.

The boy has potential, but we neither have time nor money on our side, and for Jimbo's sake I hope he gets a move.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 05:49:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 24 2008, 06:03 AM) [snapback]465484[/snapback]
Stuart Duncan went to unprecedented and almost inordinate lengths to emphasise the Trust's FINANCIAL role as the second largest shareholder.
for second largest shareholder read largest minority shareholder.

And IF Donald's investment materialises, then read second largest minority shareholder.

However, as long as Sugar Daddy is at the helm, minority shareholders, IMHO, do not make a material difference.

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I have a feeling that said Sugar Daddy has recently lashed himself to the wheel.

QUOTE(Mick @ Jun 24 2008, 11:19 AM) [snapback]465575[/snapback]
No offence intended, but if it turns out that this thread (and many, many more like it) are spurious then there's reasonably only one poster to look at.

Why should the Club respond to every single 'perfectly reasonably and legitimate question' - FFS, with MJ's post count alone, they'd need to employ someone solely dedicated to the task!!

What WAS intended Mick? The thread was NEVER spurious. A very serious question was asked, and Companies House's position has been clarified. The club IMO HAS a responsibility to reply to 'every single perfectly reasonable and legitimate question'. Not to do so would be discourteous, unreasonable and a perpetuation of the status quo.

This thread has momentarily gone silent. That 'only one poster' has achieved what others could/would not do. The lull in unwarranted attacks, personal abuse, and deliberate attempts to 'muffle' the said poster is welcome. The Monkey and Fing have had more quality time with their Daddy, and the mobility scooter's had an overdue service.

Perhaps today the Trust will come out with some comment on what for them, must surely be a shocking discovery- indeed one which their representative and reported co-Director of the elusive Mr Donald has, we are led to believe, been unable to make. I somehow doubt it.

This is only the beginning. The club may very well be able to reassure us that Mr Donald IS a Director. If so, they will hopefully also have the decency to admit gross negligence in respect of his registration, if not of keeping the paying customers informed.


AND, IF Mr Donald is indeed a legitimate director, we go straight back to my questions asked when this thread was started. What is his agenda. Hopefully the club will re-assure us today.

QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jun 24 2008, 08:08 PM) [snapback]465861[/snapback]
Hence the reason the register entry on GMFC isn't up-to-date, or shouldn't I let the facts get in the way of a good story Ernie? dry.gif

Try to improve your style Smiffy-it's puerile, repetitive, and downright dishonest. Could those words also be applied to another big 'Dunce' at Cappielow?

QUOTE(cmdc @ Jun 25 2008, 03:30 PM) [snapback]466232[/snapback]
Who was that addressed to? Gillian?

TBH, a thread on an unofficial messageboard, in the close season, is not really something I would expect the club to respond directly to, if they are even aware of it. The direct question is a different matter, so I hope you get a reply.

It isn't an issue which greatly troubles me, although the Mike Peden fiasco does show that it is a reasonable enough question to ask, and expect some kind of answer to...

Let's get one thing crystal clear. Mr Rae makes sure he's kept up to date. Forgetting Donkey Dave, Mr Rae has several part time spies, to say nothing of his totally transparent 'agents' on this pubic massage board, who for over three years have made a concerted effort to discredit Mortonjag's integrity-an impossible task!

Those pathetic fools know who they are, as does the majority of decent posters. Will they now shut up shop? rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 25 2008, 05:04 PM) [snapback]466283[/snapback]
Why does it matter whether the answer comes from via MJ or the Trust or any other source .

Being aware of our recent history there should be a willingness by the board to be open and honest in all matters .
If we are to get involved in any share purchase then we should be entitled to know the structure of the club with regard to who are directors .

You seem to be suggesting that those at the Trust maybe aware of the situation and are looking for a patsy . I don't believe that insinuation if that was the case they'd be damaging the reputation and integrity with existing and potential new members .
I hope they respond to your remarks which I hope are unwarranted .

Over twelve hours and waiting Chris! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 07:00:55
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jun 25 2008, 10:43 PM) [snapback]466513[/snapback]
Are we not planning to send Graham out on loan though?

I wouldn't read too much into things which were said some time ago. I believe Brian's on the verge of a breakthrough-his progress has actually been faster than Jimbo's over the last two seasons.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 07:07:46


QUOTE(angloton @ Jun 25 2008, 10:15 PM) [snapback]466495[/snapback]
I don't want to get anyone worried but I've heard from the physio's dog's pal's best mate that rangers are sniffing around derek mcinnes, and leeds fancy signing derek lilley......

don't worry tho....at the end of january next year.....there'll be only ONE PETER......i think he'll score a cracker at the midden....

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mortonjag 2008-06-26 07:12:43
QUOTE(angloton @ Jun 25 2008, 10:46 PM) [snapback]466518[/snapback]
Bang on...he scored plenty in the 2nd division. Obviously that was just the 2nd division, but he looked a natural finisher every time i watched him play. i reckon he just needs to buck his ideas up a wee bit (plus be played in the right position) and he could quite easily have the same sort of season as Dobbie had at QOS last year.....

One day people will accept that Spoonsy was, is, and always will be a striker!
mortonjag 2008-06-26 07:27:56
QUOTE(big B @ Jun 26 2008, 02:40 AM) [snapback]466594[/snapback]
If Mortonjag was as good a striker as he is with his gob he would be a Scottish International.



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And if your knob had been half as big as your gob there would have been less fumbling. angel.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 07:36:11
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 25 2008, 09:24 PM) [snapback]466441[/snapback]
NO debate on that Sir, my point was that those who believe that the Essen Pee are different are massively deluded.



Litotes.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 07:43:35
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jun 25 2008, 10:29 PM) [snapback]466508[/snapback]
Thanks for that, I thought it would be something along those lines.

I had a great meal by the way, but best Thai I've ever had (I've never been to Thailand so can't compare to the real deal) was in restaurant called Pattara in London, just off Regent Street. Absolutely brilliant. So if the standard of your takeaway is up with that, you will be onto a winner. Not sure those saying that the Greenock public woudl want chips and other such delicacies stand up as your model is based on a successful one for a similar venture in Hartlepool, which isn't exactly the world centre of fine cuisine. Go for it.





Thai Siam
1191 Argyle Street
Glasgow, G3 8TQ
Phone: 0141 229 1191
Website: www.thaisiamglasgow.com

* Average price 2 courses:
£7.90 (set lunch)
£18 (evening meal)
* House wine: £11.95 per bottle

* Hitlisted
* High point: Homely Thai cooking
* Low point: Hearing people's conversations – and everyone hearing yours
* Food served: Mon–Sat noon–2.30pm, 5.30pm–midnight; Sun 5.30pm–midnight
* Delivery: Decided by drivers, depends on distance. Not set by restaurant.
* Open since: 1998
* Also offers: Vegetarian options (at least 25% of main courses), Children's portions, Children's high chairs, Wheelchair access, Takeaway, Pre-theatre menu

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Eating & Drinking Guide 2008

This review appears in the The List's Eating & Drinking Guide 2008
– in the shops now or buy online.

Banquette seating, carefully folded napkins and elevator music suggest that this neighbourhood restaurant is not about to give in to pressures to follow the latest fashions. Instead, there is a quiet confidence derived from the proficiency of its kitchen. Charming waitresses use knowledge of their native cuisine to suggest changes to your order if combinations clash. Ingredients are fresh and the cooking style slightly rustic – each component in a dish plays a supporting role in creating a powerful overall impact. Among salads, a jumble of tiger prawns with cashew nuts and mango appear thrown together, but as the flavours mesh, each item serves its purpose. Tom kha gai soup is revitalising: the coconut milk separates somewhat from the spicy broth to create another layer of concentration, while chopped lemon-grass and chilli provide a rough texture to the soup's silkiness. In the duck and coconut red curry, grapes and pineapples complement the meat and stop the coconut milk from becoming cloying. As often seen in Asian restaurants, a familiar photographic menu displays ice-creams served in fruit shells with adornments. Still, an effort at individuality is made with vanilla ice-cream deep-fried in coconut batter, which is worth trying to satisfy your curiosity.


HIGHLY recommended by The Monkey!
mortonjag 2008-06-26 07:50:56
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Jun 25 2008, 10:46 PM) [snapback]466519[/snapback]
Sure I can, Greg. If there's a disagreement between two or more parties, and if it seems no movement on opinion can/will take place, then I think it's best to say Fugeheddabouddit. It's best to do that instead of going back-and-forth for an unknown amount of time.
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I don't look down my nose at people that drink, per se. I look down at people who drink too much, and let drink control their actions and reactions. I only do this because I was a heavy drinker before, and it almost killed me. To be honest, I don't remember half of my year in Korea because of it, and that was the half year that I wish that I could remember. sad.gif
I realize that, and for that I sincerely apologize to Boozehound and everyone else. I did not, in any way, mean to come across as such. What I wrote was written because I thought it would be taken differently than it was. It was bad jugement on my side. However, the fact still remains (as I see it, anyway)....it happened the way that I wrote it.

This is why I think it's best to put this to rest now.

It's odd Trick-you can make an open and honest statement like that, and nobody even bothers to acknowledge that you've achieved something which, it would appear, our resident 'what are you drinking' brigade would probably find impossible.

There's nothing wrong with responsible drinking and the opposite applies too.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 07:53:51
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 25 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]466433[/snapback]
Maybe Deego's a gay necrophiliac. huh.gif

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Deego was in dead earnest.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 08:02:36
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 25 2008, 11:57 PM) [snapback]466576[/snapback]
More than likely it won't. Just like the League of Nations didn't prevent WW2, the UN has failed all along the line since.... instances of war, mass murder, genocide, tyranny have prevailed worldwide, not just in Africa. Mugabe, as bad as he is, is small potatoes compared to the big time gangsters that rule China. Is anyone arguing for regime change there? No chance... they're our new found pals that sell us cheap tv's. laugh.gif

Two blacks, however their relative size, do not make a white Mr. Edwards.

Mugabe is the embodiment of all that's evil.

Yesterday I made a little Plasticine effigy of him-not a very good likeness-no way as good as the one of Shoogly, and Munx and Fing have been gleefully sticking pins in it ever since (gave up on Shoogly long ago), so keep your fingers crossed.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 08:15:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 26 2008, 08:07 AM) [snapback]466618[/snapback]
That's a frank admission.

I'll take that with a stiff upper lip.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 08:19:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 26 2008, 08:09 AM) [snapback]466620[/snapback]
Be afraid Mr Mugabe, Dr Mentaljag's got his mojo working and he's gonna voodoo you. laugh.gif
I see also that auld Betty has taken away his knighthood. Now that really will upset him.

Are you referring to Her majesty, Queen Elizabeth 11 of Great Britain, and Northern Ireland, Empress of India, defender of the Faith, Protector of the Commonwealth and mother of a vegetable?
mortonjag 2008-06-26 08:25:17
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 26 2008, 07:38 AM) [snapback]466612[/snapback]
Gezundheit!

Kia ora!
mortonjag 2008-06-26 08:27:03
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 26 2008, 08:19 AM) [snapback]466627[/snapback]
Whit ?

Are you practicing to be a Sassenach ?

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SSHHHHHH-I'm supposed to be dead!
mortonjag 2008-06-26 08:29:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 26 2008, 08:20 AM) [snapback]466629[/snapback]
There have been eleven Queen Elizabeths ???

I didn't know that.

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'Eleven Queens Elizabeth' Newt! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 08:46:33
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 26 2008, 08:31 AM) [snapback]466636[/snapback]
I heard there were flags at half mast at Cappielow and Fort Matilda.

But, I didn't know why.

I do hope we've not lost another of our ex players. 'The club' always goes to great lengths to respect its dead.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 08:56:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 26 2008, 08:16 AM) [snapback]466624[/snapback]
Motoring officials in North Carolina are doing their best to clean up the mean streets of America by offering drivers the chance to trade in number plates that bear the potentially offensive letter combination "WTF".

According to the state's Division of Motor Vehicles, almost 10,000 people have been driving around —possibly for years— with WTF licence plates.

But the government department only recently learned the letters were a common acronym for the vulgar phrase "What the f***?", the News & Observer of Raleigh newspaper reports.

The discovery was made by a 60-year-old teacher, whose grandchildren had clued her in to the hidden message in her number plate.

The shocked grandmother complained to the motoring agency, prompting the mass recall.

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But is seems the Division of Motor vehicles has not done as thorough a job in cleaning up its own communications.

The department was shocked to discover this week the same letters appeared on the agency's own website in the form of a sample personalised plate.

"I can't believe it," DMV Commissioner Bill Gore told the newspaper when he heard about the online glitch. "Obviously, I didn't know it was there."




The DVLA is nothing but consistent-you can go on line right now and purchase


A12 FTP


and


A12 FKB


for £250 each.

Funnily enough they don't advertise a price for the pair.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 09:02:09
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 26 2008, 08:47 AM) [snapback]466641[/snapback]
Jeeezo, you go to Dublin for the weekend and then a funeral in Edinburgh and the Jag not only forgets you but encourages others to do so! Hurt, I tell thee, I am hurt. rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

As for discrediting the Jag's integrity, surely more a case of shoring up his paranoia... laugh.gif

I hope you didn't make an ass of yourself at the funeral Dave.

Will the club be answering my e-mail today?-It'll help us to move on.

There's a good boy, trot along and check for me!
mortonjag 2008-06-26 09:05:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 26 2008, 08:59 AM) [snapback]466646[/snapback]
TP and KB ?

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KB is a rather unpopular beer here.

One needs to be somewhat catholic to drink it.

It's often called kiddies' beer.

Sounds a bit like the much disparaged Kestrel Lager over here. It was advertised as 'having bite'!
mortonjag 2008-06-26 10:14:43
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 26 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]466651[/snapback]
Quite - Greacen2000 still deserves plaudits for bringing this to the public eye.

What EXACTLY are you attempting to prove? For all you know, we may have been in this together.

Would it surprise you to find that that is true?

Others who have unsuccessfully attempted to discredit Mortonjag have backed off.

You continue to dig yourself deeper into your self important little hole. I regard that as a contemptible attempt at self aggrandisement.

Sad really. smartass.gif



mortonjag 2008-06-26 10:25:50
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jun 26 2008, 10:21 AM) [snapback]466665[/snapback]
Go and f*** yourself you big inbred cracker fud.

I'll keep my mouth shut when you stop spouting your melodramatic, odious right wing, empty rhetoric.

Deal Fats?

At least you didn't call Trick a pouffe!
mortonjag 2008-06-26 10:41:44
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 26 2008, 10:24 AM) [snapback]466667[/snapback]
I'm not attempting to prove anything. Greacen2000 was good enough to reveal to those who didn't yet know that Alistair Donald is not a director of Morton, and you've also been good enough to acknowledge that by stating that he was the one and only poster who accomplished it. I'm merely agreeing with you that he's worthy of admiration.

A poor attempt at a body swerve. Those 'in the know' see you for exactly what you are.

Greacen highlighted what several others knew after we'd discussed the issue together. Anybody with a little wit could have done the same.

Mick, like yourself, was having a sideways swipe at Mortonjag-claiming that if the thread turned out to be spurious, only one poster would be to blame.

Only one poster went to the trouble of harrying Companies House to CHECK their records. Many others had cast aspersions on their record keeping, but yesterday we got it in black and white from the Manager of the Documents Examination Section.

That was SOLELY down to Mortonjag.

If you have indeed renounced your despicable claims that the Jag is only in this for self aggrandisement, and overcome your palpable 'wee boy' jealousy at exclusion from his burgeoning PM Club, that is reassuring news.

Nothing should get in the way of the truth.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 12:02:57
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 26 2008, 10:47 AM) [snapback]466682[/snapback]
Yeah, clearly I should think about doing that soon.

Anyway, I eagerly await someone revealing the outcome of the share issue - somehow I doubt that it'll be you, but you'll take the credit nonetheless because you're in it for yourself biggrin.gif

Keep them coming son-MJ's PM club is again pissing itself laughing, and he's loving the back handed compliment every time you try and fail to put one over on him. wub.gif

Mortonjag received an e-mail only yesterday morning from a lifelong fan in Canada who expressed amazement at the regular unwarranted attacks on Mortonjag by 'losers'!

Mortonjag was heartened to read that YET ANOTHER HIGHLY QUALIFIED AND VASTLY EXPERIENCED MAN confirms Mortonjag's opinion of our little boy posters. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 12:09:10
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 26 2008, 12:04 PM) [snapback]466728[/snapback]
The scare quotes around "director" are yours alone. The club has called him a director and he has called himself a director. Directors have legal obligations to fulfill towards their companies and for this reason (as if basic honesty wasn't enough) then if he's not really a director but rather a "director" then this should have been made clear.

Spot on! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 12:11:39
QUOTE(CJTon @ Jun 26 2008, 11:43 AM) [snapback]466716[/snapback]
Not significant. Alister Donald's private wealth has got nothing to do with GMFC. It is up to him whether he wants to invest or not. Only he and maybe the chairman are privy to what his future plans will be. Anyone taking up shares have to make their own judgements as to how strong the financial structure of the club is.

Being registered or not registered as a director will not matter as anyone with a bit of sense would realise that he could walk away anytime. Certainly no indication to date of that happening and for all those that think the club has been very quiet on this matter I would point out that we are in that silly news season. Just look at some of the other clubs websites and you will see how much space is being taken up by pretty irrelevant subjects.

As has been mentioned before AD was invited into the role as a "director" to give business advice to the Chairman at presumably a fairly high level in order to take the club forward. I personally think this has been a good positive move to utilise the expertise of somebody who has been very successful in the commercial world

Conspiracy theories will always surround any football club and if the club had to answer to all of these questions raised then the administrative side of the club would really implode.

Gosh i am looking forward to the chat getting back towards real football matters as the new season approaches.

Given that you can't even spell our putative directors' name properly, I guess the other posters will see that statement for the utter waffle it is.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 12:24:04
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 26 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]466730[/snapback]
I'm well aware of that - that is your prime motivation, as I've been saying. Do keep up.

In any case would it not be more appropriate to drive your ego-wagon to another thread and leave this one to substantial debate?

That is merely the mistaken opinion of a relative child, whose own motivation is crystal clear to the Jag.

I believe your solitary degree was in Politics. I believe that politicians are the scum of the earth.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 12:36:07
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jun 26 2008, 11:56 AM) [snapback]466721[/snapback]
he was invited into the role as a director, has he taken the position?

is he considering?

if its such a simple thing that people are asking as some posters are making out, why is there not a quick clear answer to close this thread.

that is what most of us want.. a closure.



QUOTE(CJTon @ Jun 26 2008, 12:24 PM) [snapback]466753[/snapback]
Sorry to get the spelling wrong.....makes my post waffle then?

Don't mind if you treat it as waffle. I was hoping to bring a bit of clarity with regards to AD's role at the club with my first hand knowledge for those who are less clear.



QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 26 2008, 12:28 PM) [snapback]466759[/snapback]
My degree is indeed in politics... my profession, however, is not tongue.gif

Put it this way: one can be a microbiologist without becoming a malignant bacteria, so long as they keep a microscope's length away from the petri dish biggrin.gif

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Stick to politics son. Bacteria are organisms. There is no such thing as a malignant bacterium. Oh, and 'one' cannot become 'they'!

Sometimes I despair of the ignorance of self professed graduates of proper universities. smartass.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 12:44:36
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 26 2008, 12:37 PM) [snapback]466769[/snapback]
-a, -um, it's all Greek to me blush.gif

That's becoming abundantly clear, and it's Latin!
mortonjag 2008-06-26 12:51:51
QUOTE(CJTon @ Jun 26 2008, 12:33 PM) [snapback]466764[/snapback]
Why does it matter? What actual effect does it have on anybody when I believe to date that if not actually registered as a director he is providing a positive input to the club.

Lets just be pleased that we have got somebody associated with the club with the experience he has (his wealth good eventually be a bonus) and not get too hung up about what maybe an administrative slip up.

Why do positives always get turned to negatives on this site!

One of the main reasons why positives often appear to be turned into negatives is the persistent blind support of posters like yourself for an autocratic regime which treats its paying customers like sh*t, and in a reprehensibly recalcitrant manner refuses to answer the most honest and simple of questions.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 12:53:22
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 26 2008, 12:45 PM) [snapback]466776[/snapback]
Cheers for pointing that out - I might have looked daft otherwise! 1eye.gif

Only to the properly educated.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 13:02:48
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 26 2008, 11:16 AM) [snapback]466697[/snapback]
Maori- I'm impressed.

Ciamar a tha thu drink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 13:14:23
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 26 2008, 12:54 PM) [snapback]466786[/snapback]
LL, you may find this difficult to believe, but there's a big world outside Greenock where in some places there are actually labour shortages in certain sectors.

You don't seem to have come across any discrimination in your professional life, and I genuinely think that's great. But in that case I think you're one of the lucky ones. I can assure that literally millions of your sisters have encountered discrimination in the workplace - I've seen it myself many, many times.

If you think that's OK and and you're happy that women on average earn 40% less than their male colleagues for doing the same job, and you're happy with the 'glass ceiling' encountered by many women when it comes to promotion, then that's fair enough, it's your choice.

I think that's a shame though.

Is that the one the ambitious dames smile through as they shag their way to the top to the disadvantage of male competition?
mortonjag 2008-06-26 13:26:16
QUOTE(CJTon @ Jun 26 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]466800[/snapback]
My support is certainly not blind and is based on what I see and what I know.

Comparing the situation to Brooks Milestone and Gretna is in my view unfair at this time. If AD was eventually to invest money I think you would find all the loose end properly tied up. AD is sufficiently commercially aware to also ensure that this nhappens

Our chairman is actually a very astute businessman....again my point of view based on my past knowledge...and at no time would he allow a Gretna situation to arise. For what is effectively a small provisional club (apart from in the eyes of us Morton fans) the football club has done pretty well to get where it is today and the involvement of AD is to see how that can be taken further.

Is that based on what you see or what you know, or is it just an opinion.

There is ample documented evidence to suggest that Mr Rae's tenure at Cappielow has been littered with examples of lack of astuteness.

The latest is his stubborn refusal to answer the very question on debate. If he has even a modicum of common sense, let alone astuteness, he must see that he is further alienating his paying customers.

OR IS HE HIDING SOMETHING?
mortonjag 2008-06-26 13:31:53
QUOTE(ali2301 @ Jun 26 2008, 01:09 PM) [snapback]466798[/snapback]
Just been watching First Ministers Questions at Holyrood and ironically Wendy Alexander has lost her voice. Pretty bad timing!

She's obviously been doing too much sookin'.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 13:43:28
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jun 26 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]466809[/snapback]
ha ha ... laughable.. when it comes to morton f.c it seems to me that the club is being run like a 99p card shop, ans as for AD , exactly what has he brought to the club ? I cant see any evidence of this great buisness minds influence on the club, or does ddfr not listen to him.. or more frighteningly is he ok with the way things are being run !!!

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I suppose it's possible that he's just giving the old duffer plenty of rope, and when the self strangulation is all but complete, he'll offer a knock down price! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 13:46:47
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jun 26 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]466722[/snapback]
True, but Jim's breakthrough was at a lower level. If we were still in the 2nd Division I think Graham would be ready, but he needs a season of regular first team football in the 2nd or 3rd Division before he's ready to make a serious claim for a first team place.

A season at East Stirling perhaps?

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JM would convince him he's a left footed right back.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 13:48:24
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jun 26 2008, 12:04 PM) [snapback]466727[/snapback]
With Bryn Halliwell and Kevin Cuthbert still without clubs, why are we bothering with Robinson?

Ther nae munny.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 13:51:16
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 26 2008, 12:09 PM) [snapback]466735[/snapback]
What's your problem with young Deego?

He's one of MJ's little men! angel.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 14:00:12
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 26 2008, 12:17 PM) [snapback]466747[/snapback]
Ssssshhh this is supposed to be a quiet forum tongue.gif



Peace, perfect peace, in this dark world of sin?
The blood of Jesus whispers peace within.

Peace, perfect peace, by thronging duties pressed?
To do the will of Jesus, this is rest.

Peace, perfect peace, with sorrows surging round?
On Jesus’ bosom naught but calm is found.

Peace, perfect peace, with loved ones far away?
In Jesus’ keeping we are safe, and they.

Peace, perfect peace, our future all unknown?
Jesus we know, and He is on the throne.

Peace, perfect peace, death shadowing us and ours?
Jesus has vanquished death and all its powers.

It is enough: earth’s struggles soon shall cease,
And Jesus call us to Heaven’s perfect peace blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 14:07:11
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 26 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]466799[/snapback]
According to his profile the Naitch is 24 so he'd be able to remember that then. blink.gif

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REALLY-you could have fooled me!

Anyway the comment was directed at Puggsy whose profile claims he's 21, but who behaves like a twelve year old.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 14:16:58
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 26 2008, 12:14 PM) [snapback]466744[/snapback]
Quote from the article: "and the other problem I have, Ostitis Pubis [inflammation of the pubic bone]"

So he has been excercising his arms a lot then laugh.gif

Osteitis PUBIS Weegie-not penis.

The imagination of you young boys! bag.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 14:30:30
QUOTE(CJTon @ Jun 26 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]466812[/snapback]
A wee bit more than just an opinion.

So how many paying customers do you believe is he going to alienate because form 288(cool.gif - Appointment of a Director has not been signed?

I wouldn't think that many....but I stand to be corrected.

So what do you think he is trying to hide (if again that is your opinion)?

So you agree with the Companies House opinion that Mr Donald is not a designated director of Greenock Morton.

For almost six months the Chairman would have had us believe otherwise. I sent two separate e-mails to the club yesterday asking for clarification of the position-no more-no less. So far I've had no acknowledgement of either.

This no longer is a matter of whether or not a form has been signed, it's about a pertinent question which the club has seen fit to ignore for weeks-which the Trust seems unable to answer-and which potentially goes to the very heart of the current share issue and the future of the club.

As others have said repeatedly, the question won't go away until it's been answered.Only then can we fully assess alienation.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 14:34:51
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Jun 26 2008, 02:20 PM) [snapback]466838[/snapback]
I don't want to get into the 'personal' stuff about Douglas Rae or Alistair Donald but would like to make a couple of points.

No astute business-man would ever invest in a Scottish football club as a business venture unless it was one of the very few, or make that two, which have a chance of giving him a return on his money.

On the other hand some of the very wealthy, as they are perfectly entitled to do, buy yachts, fast cars or other 'toys' for fun and to show off their wealth, and some buy football clubs. When they grow out of them or get fed up with them, or find that they no longer give them an adrenaline rush they walk away more often than not in the case of football clubs, leaving them in a worse state than when they bought them.

If you need evidence of the above you don't take an interest in football.

Other business-men who have acquired wealth and who are genuine supporters will invest in 'their' club because they want it to survive e.g Douglas Rae with Morton, or because they have the financial muscle to take it to or towards the top e.g. the present chairman of Doncaster Rovers.

What Morton need like 'a hole in the head' is anyone who comes into the 'I need a new toy' category, and what they would obviously benefit from would be a greater level of investment from one, or a number of genuine supporters.

As regards Mr Donald I have read that he is a Rangers supporter, and therefore given what I have written above can only wonder why he would want to invest in Morton.

He is actually quoted as having a passion for Rangers AND Morton.

I don't think he'd necessarily be a bad thing for the Ton, though I agree with your cautious sentiments. Either way, we need to know what's going on.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 14:43:28
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 26 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]466844[/snapback]
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PLAY ANOTHER TUNE

THANK GOD MORE PEOPLE ARE SPEAKING OUT AGAINST THIS FLIPPANT TYPE OF LABELLING

A cop out way to get people to back down

Bang on the money LL. shutup.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 15:14:26
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 26 2008, 03:01 PM) [snapback]466860[/snapback]
You go find out.

laugh.gif YIP-he asked!


Don't let the children wind you up LL!


It's the pace of change which has often been unacceptable. Where I live there is united hostility from a well integrated multicultural society towards indiscriminate dumping of all sorts of 'waifs and strays' mainly from Eastern Europe.

Possibly those who object to the idea of reclaiming our multicultural country should propound their mealy mouthed quasi PC theories at one of the residents' meetings here. They would be told to GET TO F*CK in no uncertain terms and many discrete dialects.

All mooth and keyboard and in need of pink botty skelping par excellence.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 15:22:16
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 26 2008, 03:18 PM) [snapback]466875[/snapback]
I wonder if it's just me here but I think Harding and Greacen acted appallingly towards the club, both must have known they were carrying these injuries when they were negotiating their new contracts, both got big pay increases when in my opinion they should have both been given a big boot up the arse at the very least.

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Maybe it was something with not being able to get a doctor's appointment for two months. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 15:23:29
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 26 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]466872[/snapback]
You spoil all the fun with your constant corrections .

You and your Companies House .


barstewards angel.gif angel.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Any reply to YOUR e-mail yet? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 15:29:11
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 26 2008, 03:17 PM) [snapback]466874[/snapback]
Residents' meetings are for curtain-twitching oddballs, but aside from that, would that really be the reply given if I asked, "reclaim from whom?"

Because that doesn't really seem to be a very good way to garner support.

Listen to me sonny boy-this is the big smoke I'm talking about-not the leafy west end of Greenock where brown faces are still associated with sun tan parlours.


Up here we want to reclaim it from the dumpees-if you can't get your head round that concept, come and have a keek for yourself. Alternatively enjoy your sand supper.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 15:38:51
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jun 26 2008, 03:33 PM) [snapback]466887[/snapback]
Now you are taking big hairy bollox doc, i didnt know that cathcart or newlands was overrun by the roman slovak community? my erse.. its full of rich fat arse docs and asian shop owners in their fancy hooses! and big 4x4s to take the kids to school....

yer not as common as you make oot! rolleyes.gif laugh.gif blush.gif a few smileys jus for effect!

i would love to claim back this country as well! LL.. let me know when your up for doing it and we will set the coup in motion. AK47 anyone?

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Look pal-yer talkin' tae Whiteman in Newlands here!

Take my little flat as the centre of a two mile radius circle and there are no big hairy bollox.

I didn't say they were camping out in our close! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 15:40:01
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 26 2008, 03:34 PM) [snapback]466890[/snapback]
OK, so it's the dumpees. Thank you for sorting that out.

I wonder where Loyal Lass lives, incidentally?

She is my gardener.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 15:59:33
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jun 26 2008, 03:43 PM) [snapback]466901[/snapback]
aye!

well...
fair play on spot the whiteman in some areas, ill give you that...

but theres nae roman slovak "dumpees" or whatever you wanna call em up there. if your at a community meeting and you are complaining aboot Govanhill issues in newlands, you lot have got too much spare time on yer hands.

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"Where I live there is united hostility from a well integrated multicultural society towards indiscriminate dumping of all sorts of 'waifs and strays' mainly from Eastern Europe."

naw, were I LIVE there is.. not in newlands ma dear doc!

although i would still debate the "well integrated multicultural society" bit. dry.gif

That's the whole point-those who don't know what they're talking about DEBATE-others talk facts.

How far is the centre of Newlands from Shawlands cross? When did you last suss the population of the Shawbridge and Birness Drive multi storeys for example. When did you last buy a 'Big Issue' from the gangmaster organised Roma at the 'Co' on Pollokshaws Road? The Poles are a slightly different issue, but we've just got our new 'Little Krakow' deli 50 yards away.

Stereotypes of doctors in their big detached villas with their 4 x 4 shaggin' wagons are indeed stereotypes. Oh and you can play 'spot the white man' in Lidl's or 'Newlands Safeway' any time except Friday afternoon. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 16:06:09
QUOTE(king_bob @ Jun 26 2008, 03:55 PM) [snapback]466909[/snapback]
When Irons first came in last season, I'm sure he would have been dismayed at the quality of keeper he had at his disposal as both Robinson and McGurn had been making some poor mistakes, but as time went on and the defence shored up, Robinson's performances, and probably more importantly his confidence, improved dramatically. He played very well in the last 2 games of the season, maybe Irons saw something there to make him think he had something to work with.

I was at the hospitality at the last home game of the season, a question was asked after the match when David Irons, Derek Collins and David Wylie came into the lounge, went along the lines of how do you rate robinson compared to McGurn, Wylie answered this question and said that robinson has to the potential to become a very good keeper and i am impressed in what i see in him.

Maybe it is wylie that has put a word into irons

'Don't you think those boys deserve the CHANCE to take us forward'? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 16:35:36
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 26 2008, 04:07 PM) [snapback]466916[/snapback]
That's absolutely shocking, if true.

It's true,it's not shocking, and I am one of the customers.

Your point was? blink.gif

QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 26 2008, 04:07 PM) [snapback]466917[/snapback]
Don't worry, the residents association are already on to it. It's top of the agaenda at the next meeting.

Woe betide them man or woman who stands up and says they acually quite like have a Polish Deli in the neighbourhood. smile.gif

I just said it!

Your point was? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 16:40:10
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 26 2008, 04:37 PM) [snapback]466928[/snapback]
That's jolly decent of you.
You go find out.

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mortonjag 2008-06-26 16:58:51
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 26 2008, 04:48 PM) [snapback]466934[/snapback]
There is already positive discrimination in operation, whether subtle or overt. Witness all those statements about welcoming applications from lesbians or gay men (always with the female listed first in true PC fashion), ethnic minorities etc etc. What should in fact happen is that there should be no mention of particular groups and the default position should be the best person for the job gets it. And I'm sorry, but if you want to base it on a cost/benefit analysis, a male up to the age of about 40 will always beat an equivalent female for simple biological reasons. In many case the female IS the best candidate in my experience and in my company we employ or have employed far more than the industry average.

Don't try quoting the voice of experience Alibi-they simply don't want to know. The only comfort I can take is that I'll probably not be around in twenty years time, when that lot have hopefully grown up and are themselves getting to the stage of being irritated by jumped up brats who think they know better. By then they'll also be able to enjoy the fruits of their pachydermatous myopia and arrogant dismissal of those who do.

A good kick up their arses wouldn't go amiss either! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 17:06:44
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 26 2008, 04:29 PM) [snapback]466924[/snapback]
we're going to need to find a good striker now because the two keepers we'll have on our books will be gifting the other teams goals, sure both of them would probably have good spells during the season but lets not be fooling ourselves, there will be a run of games during the season where things are not going well for us and confidence will be draining, this is the time where you need a competent goalkeeper to try and win you a point here and a point there, not someone who will probably end up throwing the ball into the net.

We have four strikers darling! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 17:14:07
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 26 2008, 05:07 PM) [snapback]466945[/snapback]
Agree , there is talk of MP's getting rid of allowances for their second home replacing it with a large hike in salary . This is to prevent cases where MP's are claiming tax relief on property they own outright .
So fraudulently claim money which would get anyone else investigated and their collar felt however MP's just change the rules that keeps them within the law .

If you can't do it by the laws of the land simply change the law .

Power without responsibility is all around us! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 17:19:37
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 26 2008, 05:09 PM) [snapback]466948[/snapback]
I don't know to whom you're referring but not only did I state that I've encountered "disciminatory" hiring practices in the past but also that I didn't have much time for this particular law.

You were probably eyeball deep in a cauldron of bigos at the time so I forgive your missing it if your remarks were directed at me.
True colours - everywhere!

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mortonjag 2008-06-26 17:21:09
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 26 2008, 05:09 PM) [snapback]466947[/snapback]
...for one day. Bit of a token punishment frankly but it makes a point. And that point is that the procurator fiscal should have done his job properly and prosecuted her.

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mortonjag 2008-06-26 17:28:11
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 26 2008, 05:16 PM) [snapback]466951[/snapback]
we don't have a 15-20 goals a year striker though. We have three strikers ( i refuse to count Brian Graham as one of our strikers) who combined will probably get us 25-30 goals a season, which means our Midfield and Defence will have to chip in with a lot more goals, something they didn't really do last year.

We DO actually if we could get a decent supply to a fit and motivated Spoonsy-it will NOT, however, come from Super Kev, the blinkered greyhound, or Jimbo the 'what next?' machine man.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 17:30:21
QUOTE(twgp @ Jun 26 2008, 05:25 PM) [snapback]466958[/snapback]
Who would we have to ground share with while scappa was getting done up?

Surely not the new mini-me all seater up in paisley?!

More chance of Golden Casket buying over Nestle.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 17:39:37
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 26 2008, 05:31 PM) [snapback]466966[/snapback]
i don't see how you can sit and slag the two people at our club who work the hardest and then say that we'll get goals from the fat controller up front who has about 3 good games a season. There is more chance of me scoring a hat-trick at the supporters tournament than there is of a fit and motivated Weatherson turning up on opening day of the season.

Telling the truth is not 'slagging' my angel, though many hate me for it!

I think this will be Spoonsy's year. Three months into the season we'll be getting offers Shoogly can't refuse-HE'LL be sold on to Hibs in January for £250,000, and LEAFY will take over as number one striker, alongside Wakey.

Before you throw your hands up in horror, the money will be used to sign an experienced goalie, and do up the bogs at the stand, with any residue donated to Guide Dogs for the Blind.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 17:44:52
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 26 2008, 05:21 PM) [snapback]466955[/snapback]
Ah, nice one - it's good to be exempt from a tongue-lashing ohmy.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-26 17:47:06
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jun 26 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]466960[/snapback]
Another great performance from Murray today IMO. Had to wait for Hawkeye to confirm his final point was in, which was quite funny, but impressive stuff. Nadal dropped a set in his match, Andy could play him in the quarters if he can get past Tommy Haas.

Chris Eaton is on court shortly, would be great if he could get through too, considering how low his ranking is!

All the more fun when he finally gets humpt! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 17:49:22
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 26 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]466961[/snapback]
im loving all the fights on here lately, maybe the Gourock Morton Supporters should set up a charity boxing night , that way everyone gets to let out their frustrations and money goes to a good cause! biggrin.gif

I'm busy that night dear.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 17:52:24
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 26 2008, 05:44 PM) [snapback]466974[/snapback]
The "back of a fag packet" calculations which underlined the Essen Pee's manifesto, continue to tumble.
Having realised that a 3p rise in income tax can't fund a replacement for cooncil tax they now realise that more of their policies don't add up.

Dohhhhhhhhhhhh.

Soapy helped?
mortonjag 2008-06-26 18:17:18
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mortonjag 2008-06-26 18:24:57
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jun 26 2008, 06:09 PM) [snapback]466981[/snapback]
If and when he eventually exits the tournament, I doubt it'll be in straight sets, that is 'humpt' in tennis terms! Won't happen IMO. rolleyes.gif

Rest assured he will, and probably in a massive cream puff, and Mummy will give him big 'there, there sons', and his 'on the make' WAG will secretly be raging that he didn't make more money! laugh.gif

There again, he could go all the way and win-overnight becoming the first ENGLISH champion for long and weary. I wouldn't grudge him an ounce of that.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 18:34:29
QUOTE(Exiled Scot @ Jun 26 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]466987[/snapback]
I’m I really the only match sponsor so far? I was sure others said they’d sponsor a match. I’ll also take the last away game of the season against St Johnstone, that’ll be the league decider between them and us. Money on the way Andy.

True-I offered to sponsor the first away match at Dingwall within the £100 I've pledged-maybe Andy didn't clock that.

Still offering to match any of the MJ haters up to another £100! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 18:36:50
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 26 2008, 06:29 PM) [snapback]466991[/snapback]
I'd be surprised if the SPL allow another groundsharing scheme unless it is to benefit one of the big guns .
Surely before any upgrading work is started will depend on the success of the share issue .
I don't think we'll be in a position of doing a Hamilton for a few years .

No acknowledgement of either e-mail today Chris-though I got a nice letter from the bloke at Companies House detailing the complaints procedure. blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 18:41:45
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 26 2008, 06:33 PM) [snapback]466993[/snapback]
no, you're thinking of mitosis

Don't you go trying to tell me what I think again Alistair. I see you disappeared off the AD thread with the rest of the arseholes.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 05:35:12
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jun 26 2008, 03:42 PM) [snapback]466899[/snapback]
Your signature's proving to be very fitting in this thread. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 26 2008, 11:03 PM) [snapback]467116[/snapback]
I'm sick of this! It appears that the club has either made an administrative error or Mr Donald decided not to become a Morton Director. Either way, I don't really care. It does not affect my allegience to the club one iota.

MortonJag has managed to make a nothing issue into a big issue and credit to him in that, given his crusade against Douglas Rae and his family. He appears to have finally nailed something specific where the club has done wrong (apart from the secret issues the majority of us are not allowed to to hear about) . That that particular act or omission is inconsequential in the greater scheme of things does'nt matter much to him, its still a blow against the present administration.

Well done Ernie, you've at least managed a score, even if its only in regard to a minor matter. If the club respond to your e-mail, if it were up to me, I would tell you that such matters were private to GMFC Limited and that your e-mail, if printed could best grace the smallest room in the house. Alternatively, I would do what the club has done and ignore you!

Our vastly skilled small town abacus mechanic whose experience of corporate disasters makes the sinking of the 'Titanic' look like an overturned skiff on the Mill Dam is 'SICK OF THIS'.

Shouldn't he be taking medical advice on the matter? unsure.gif

QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 26 2008, 11:12 PM) [snapback]467134[/snapback]
So you don't think that in light of this club's ownership history over the past decade that someone is being presented as having the responsibilities of a director when legally he appears not to is even a little bit worrying?

It's not quite the smoking gun that Mortonjag no doubt hoped it would be and his talk of the law getting involved is faintly ludicrous but when lines start getting blurred bad things happen.

The club may not legally owe it to anyone to explain what's happening but when there is a resolution I think an explanation wouldn't go amiss (i.e. if they're currently in negotiations with Mr. Donald right now I can see why they'd hold off on blabbing... although they may now think twice before making future announcements.)

The Club is a registered Private Limited Company. It must comply with the terms of the Companies Acts. The club has a responsibility to 'The Public'-NOT just shareholders. The Club must not act in any way which could be construed as 'irregular'. Evidence that it 'may' have done will result in an investigation. Deliberate evasion of a question about the current situation-FROM A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC, may constitute grounds for investigation. That is the up to date information I've had from Companies House.

QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 26 2008, 11:37 PM) [snapback]467177[/snapback]
It does not worry me much given the financial relationship between Morton and Golden Casket Group. We are as financially sound as any club in Scotland outside the old firm.

I agree its a little worrying given the announcement of AD as a director but, if he's not, the club will survive and it won't change my relationship with them. My understanding is that the present share issue is or will shortly be wholly taken up. There might be another in which small shareholders get a chance - I don't know. I do know though that for the immediate future we are financially sound unless Golden Casket should go under.

So am I worried if AD is a director or not? I would prefer probably that he is but if he's not, he's not. GMFC will go on.
Am I worried if GMFC have breached some requirement to lodge papers with the Registrar of Companies? Not in the least! As the Crusaders track - It happens every day!

As for some requirement to keep fans who have absolutely no financial stake in the company whatever blink.gif informed whats going on in the board room? The question is not worth an answer!

Shoogly.............'Nick, good chap, tell that ignorant little Glasgow doctor fellow once and for all that I am answerable to nobody'.


Nick.................'Of courshe Mr Rae.........slever, slever,.........'I mean SHIR'.........I'll short the little shnake out............SHLURRRRRP........Mr Rae, erm....cough, cough........... about that sheat in the Directorsh Boxsh..not that I'd dream of presshurishing your goodshelf..........



Shoogly.............'SUSIE....it's hot-pour this gentleman a barley water-I'm off to Greggsh-damn you man-Greggs, to deal with another big softie'. sleep.gif




QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 26 2008, 11:43 PM) [snapback]467186[/snapback]
to your question, no. (but i profess no inside knowledge)

i confess that i'm taking this subject lightly, but i've no reason to believe that the club is about to fold - although mortonjag has private information which may contradict this.

Your attempted levity has run its course.

QUOTE(CJTon @ Jun 26 2008, 11:51 PM) [snapback]467197[/snapback]
I wouldn't worry about it. You can't compare now with then. Completely different situations. As said in a previous e-mail Mortonjag is trying to make a mountain out of a mole-hill.

Mortonjag why are you so intent on highlighting negative issues about the club?

The people at the club are working to the best of their abilities which you seem to think is not good enough. Yes there are times when issues crop up but that happens in any business. They are dealt with behind closed doors and the business moves on.

You seem to have an awful lot of free time to sit at your computer. Why not offer to help out with the admin dept at Cappielow rather than just find fault all the time.

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QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 27 2008, 12:59 AM) [snapback]467304[/snapback]
I'm sorry but I couldn't disagree more. Morton have suffered from shocking, gross mismanagement for the best part of three decades now. I can't think of club in this country that has punched below it's weight to the extent Morton has.
Well he can f*** right off then. OF fans are NOT welcome at Cappielow.


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mortonjag 2008-06-27 06:06:06
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 26 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]467021[/snapback]
I have a feeling they held back on letting the club know.

Does their contract oblige them to divulge personal medical details to the employer?
mortonjag 2008-06-27 06:08:09
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 26 2008, 10:45 PM) [snapback]467101[/snapback]
I've booked a hotel in Castle Douglas for a week on Monday and then three nights in Durham. Who else is going and where are you staying? Unfortunately my number three son has no holidays left so I am on my own.! Maybe meet for a pint somewhere local any of the four nights?

How many rooms do the Groupies get?
mortonjag 2008-06-27 06:10:33
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 26 2008, 10:20 PM) [snapback]467082[/snapback]
personally i think the lack of atmosphere has been down to the lack of italians in the crowd. we need to recruit more!

The Monkey liked the Spamyard supporters last night. Lets get Spamyards in too.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 06:15:41
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 27 2008, 01:06 AM) [snapback]467322[/snapback]
Paartalu is about a penis taller than Harding!

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mortonjag 2008-06-27 06:32:27



- What's your greatest hope for this season?

That the football we play is exciting for a change.



- And your biggest fear?

That DI/DC leave in disgust around next February.

- Most important player


Arguably McManus-we've needed a calm experienced head in defence for years.

- Cult hero/terrace favourite

I have a sneaky feeling that by Christmas there will again be 'ONLY ONE PETERR'

- Keep an eye out for (young player)

Brian Graham's been coming through quite quickly.

- Player you'd happily drive to his next club

Probably Stevenson, if only to give the boy a fresh start.

- What one change would you make at your club?
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- Have you got the right manager?

Far too early to know how good he is. Seems competent in the motivation department.
- What advice would you give him?

Keep Rae out of the dressing room, and don't 'take him home with you' at night.

- Which team do you most want to beat this season?

The Midden in the Renny Cup.

- Opposition player you despise.

Don't be ridiculous-it's a bloody game.

- Opposition player you secretly admire

Jim Thomson

- Where will you finish?

Definitely mid table (i.e. not first or last).
mortonjag 2008-06-27 06:46:20 YIP-it looks like it's going to be a 'Hard to beat, and not many goals' season.

After watching the Spaniards last night I realised just how BAD has been the crap I've been watching at Scapa for five seasons.

Maybe it's because I don't use the success of the Club as my society status symbol that I'd sometimes gladly see us play really attractive attacking football, and lose to a better side by an odd goal.

Grinding out results is fine if it achieves promotion, or is ESSENTIAL to stay in the division.

Otherwise it's a pain to watch.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 06:50:10
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 27 2008, 06:37 AM) [snapback]467379[/snapback]
Out of all the games we will play in the coming season you want us to win a friendly match most of all? mellow.gif

I would have gone for beating St Mirren in the Scottish Cup Final personally. wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-27 07:56:48
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 26 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]466996[/snapback]
Don't understand this antipathy towards Judy Murray. So what if she's "middle class". She's encouraged her son to achieve and not to rely on others. She seems perfectly normal anytime I've seen her interviewed.
Would you rather she was a heroin addict who brought her son up to depend on handouts?
His 'on the make WAG' (although how you can be both wife and girlfriend I have no idea) hardly needs the cash. Maybe she loves him and maybe his mum loves him? Wow, wouldn't that just piss you and your backward, misguided class politics off?

Never expected you to Mr Mc-you clearly don't have my ability to read personalities.

QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 26 2008, 07:39 PM) [snapback]467022[/snapback]
I can't stand Murray - mostly going on interviews I've seen on TV.

When he plays I find it hard to back him because I don't like him but because he's Scottish I tend to want him to win but it doesn't bother me if he loses. If he was English (or any other nationality really) I'd want him to lose every match and he'd probably be up there with Steven McGarry as my most disliked sportsman.

'Spoilt brat' are the words you were looking for! blush.gif

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 26 2008, 08:30 PM) [snapback]467040[/snapback]
I'm lapsed in just about every way imaginable!!!! laugh.gif

I also find doctors slagging off people for being middle class a little comedic.

You encounter that often!

What was your most recent example?
mortonjag 2008-06-27 08:10:21
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 26 2008, 10:28 PM) [snapback]467091[/snapback]
But only if she's got big tits.

They can make laws till they're blue in the face Mr Edwards, but a woman with attractive big jugs is always number one seed. Funny old world!

QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 26 2008, 11:38 PM) [snapback]467179[/snapback]
I don't have one I have many. I never validate or answer to swearing as to me when you resort to that you have lost respect I have the attention span of a gnat(thank god) when it comes to politics(at least I don't run away from it though)I am not on here to explain myself to you. Why can't some of you let people post their stuff without these post mortems. I don't know maybe it makes people feel big.

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I've being trying to suss him out for some time LL-you know-trying to hang a proper diagnosis on his obvious problem-and you've just made it so simple for me.

BANG ON THE MONEY AGAIN!

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mortonjag 2008-06-27 08:19:38
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 26 2008, 10:12 PM) [snapback]467078[/snapback]
I want Piehutt and am willing to chuck the booze and takeaways to make the required weight. wub.gif

No money. It's not about money.

Good gracious, I had no knowledge that the Prof. is a pugilist. I'll have to watch what I say in future.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 09:12:55
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 27 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]467409[/snapback]
As far as I am aware not by law they don't, although being seen as responsible to the public would be good for the clubs overall image.
I know...what image wink.gif

Maybe you should have gone to a proper University! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 09:20:16
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 27 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]467410[/snapback]
Is upgrading Cappielow rather than the squad not putting the cart before the horse ?

It's obviously about striking some kind of balance.

Had Shoogly kept his cuddly toy manager as he planned we'd be back in Division two. So much for him 'undoubtedly wanting to see the club in the SPL.'

If ever there was a perfect example of 'sook it and see' you have it in the current 'stewardship' at Morton.

I don't believe anyone has ever suggested that Mr Rae's heart is not 'in the right place'.

As I've repeatedly pointed out in the past, the same could have been argued for almost any autocrat.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 09:25:28
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 27 2008, 08:40 AM) [snapback]467402[/snapback]
I have'nt been exposed much to groupies since I married one! Come to think of it, I have'nt been exposed much to her recently either!

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Does that explain why you come over as a grumpy old c*nt? blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 09:39:00
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 27 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]467422[/snapback]
Why don't we have an experiment?

Call the police and see what happens.


Or will we file this one away with your intentions to call in your connections with the tabloid press last year? rolleyes.gif

Please yourself son-Loyal Lass clocked you in one.

I've no intention of being drawn into 'discussion' with you on this particular point. If you require clarification I suggest you contact Companies House yourself. I eventually found them extremely gracious and helpful.

That advice also applies to Puggsy, and anyone else contemplating further 'black is white' meddling with fact.

mortonjag 2008-06-27 09:41:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 27 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]467423[/snapback]
do they not require proper matriculants any longer ?

I'm not sure Newt. I suspect we have dozens of youngish graduates on this pubic massage board who have the instinctive wisdom not to argue with their intellectual superiors! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 09:56:13
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Jun 27 2008, 08:49 AM) [snapback]467406[/snapback]
Anyone who thinks Murray has been truly embraced by the strawberries and cream brigade should have watched his match followed by the Chris Eaton match and seen the difference in the reactions of the crowd throughout.

There are aspects of Murray's personality that I'm not that keen on but having read some of the predictable nonsense on here I want him to do well more than ever.



Nonsense! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 10:04:03
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 27 2008, 08:44 AM) [snapback]467405[/snapback]
As far as I can gather;

we = a group including you

them = everyone not in that group.
...but I am probably wrong seeing as the way this thread has went! laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-27 10:07:44
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 27 2008, 09:25 AM) [snapback]467420[/snapback]
laugh.gif kwolity !



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.....but a quality lie!

Port-ton is older and more mature than my little Deeglet, whom I'd describe as 'downy'.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 10:20:13
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 26 2008, 11:00 AM) [snapback]466689[/snapback]
I was wondering how the share issue was progressing and whether or not anyone had taken up their allocation.

Given that there's now no mention of how to procure shares on the official website I imagine that it's all a 'done deal' as it were?

I'd like to welcome all investors old and new to the club nonetheless
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mortonjag 2008-06-27 10:25:29 Deja vu.



McAnespie.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 10:37:59
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Jun 27 2008, 10:32 AM) [snapback]467452[/snapback]
I would say no to this (if it were up to me) because I know of people that can't read small letters because of their eyesight. Thus, they must write in caps.

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mortonjag 2008-06-27 10:42:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 27 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]467453[/snapback]
I just got this email.

Could someone please translate ?
KELYNIAM GLOBAL
KLYG.OB
Last Trade June 24: 1.75

Kelyniam Global, Inc. management has a tremendous amount of experience in CADCAM technology, especially in the aeronautical industry. The company is currently pursuing additional contracts with aircraft manufacturers in the U.S. and South America. Kelyniam Global, Inc. is currently generating revenue by our rapid prototyping and manufacturing facility in New Britain Connecticut. Historically, we have provided engineering consulting for large scale manufacturers in the aircraft and automotive industries. Kelyniam Global, Inc. also intends to directly own or invest in a diversified group of businesses that we provide consulting work for that generate cash and consistently earn above average returns on capital.

Sent to the Tower by James. The Hydes were the proper protectors of the rights of the two Princesses. The Dutch Ambassador might be regarded as the representative of William, who, as first prince of the blood and consort of the King's eldest daughter, had a deep interest in what was passing. James never thought of summoning any member, male or female, of the family of Hyde; nor was the Dutch Ambassador invited to be present.





At least you got an effin e-mail.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 10:52:03
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 27 2008, 10:48 AM) [snapback]467458[/snapback]
do you feel unloved ?

I could give you one.

No No Newt -you are very attentive as it is, but how come I can get e-mails from you in Oz, much quicker than from Feart Matilda? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 11:00:28 Until recently I could only do this


FUDGY WUDGY CHOKED MY BUDGIE


now I'm a dab hand at


Shoogly SookS SooR PloomS
mortonjag 2008-06-27 11:03:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 27 2008, 10:59 AM) [snapback]467464[/snapback]
I have a file of emails from both Cappielow and the Fort.

Including 2 from the bloke who we don't mention any more.

Would you like one ?

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Sorry newt but not right now thanks, I'm having my elevenses.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 11:07:06
QUOTE(binnie @ Jun 27 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]467461[/snapback]
brian wakes record was worse and now look at him. with the help of irons and collins arbukle could do the same...

Brian Wake played a couple of very good games for us-just at the right time. One swallow doth not a summer make. Jury's out so far as I can see.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 11:29:52
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Jun 27 2008, 11:04 AM) [snapback]467467[/snapback]
Have a gander at my avatar, thats got peoples knickers in a twist before, which is in agreement with your final paragraph, I think!

That's not discrimination Paddy-it's to do with health and safety.

It's common knowledge that there is a fundamental anatomical difference between the male and female.

I can't remember the details-something to do with decompression, nitrogen bubbles in the v agina, and cramped working environment.

We don't need a couple of big c*nts wrecking our nuclear strike force.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 12:18:28
QUOTE(Bobbyton @ Jun 27 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]467496[/snapback]
just thought I'd add post no. 501 to this ridiculous thread!

You ever wandered that this stuff might actually scare Alister Donald away with him thinking he's not even in the door yet but is being hounded down by the "loyal" Morton support.

I sure as hell would think twice if it were me!!!

Nice to know you've joined in the spirit! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 12:24:31
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jun 27 2008, 11:53 AM) [snapback]467493[/snapback]
the theory of it is all shot to hell, but should that be the case and there is no money here at all...
then wouldnt we have to seek money from elsewhere?

where is somewhere else?

edit to add...

im getting rid of my flat soon.. wanna buy a flat in govanhill, i think you'd like it here wink.gif

Another less Whiteman in Govanhill.

Did he jump or was he pushed? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 13:15:58
QUOTE(Russell#1 @ Jun 27 2008, 01:07 PM) [snapback]467521[/snapback]
What is it with people saying oh no we dont want him or him... near our club i would think that we should give everyone a chance. Who says he won't play Amazing every week, give the lad a chance let DI do what he wants, he saved us from relegation last year he knows what hes doing in this league let him go and Give Arbuckle a chance!

Agreed-IF we didn't have to limit the size of the squad because there's no money. There are other positions I'd love to see filled long before committing yet another wage to a 'striker'.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 13:29:40 One of my favourite posters is weegie, because he only lives a couple of miles away from me.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 13:53:03
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 27 2008, 01:39 PM) [snapback]467535[/snapback]
Moira Salmond would get it first though.

Now, now-what is it with Tims and aged virgins?
mortonjag 2008-06-27 14:01:11
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Jun 27 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]467540[/snapback]
Personally delighted we're going to have a big physical team at last. It might not be pretty, but it rarely is in Scottish football!

Think we'll be a difficult team to play against this season, but we won't be challenging due to not having one reliable striker at the club... and a big question mark over the goalkeeping position.

That's pretty dismissive before the season's even started. If we can't get goals from a fit and motivated Spoonsy, LEAFY, Wake, and Graham, it will more likely be because we opted for muscle in the midfield. I've NO problem with that but there will be no subtlety, no decent through balls, and scarcely a cross to talk about.

We seem to be skint already, and the last thing we should be doing is wasting money on ANOTHER striker.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 14:06:53
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 27 2008, 01:59 PM) [snapback]467544[/snapback]
You're a bad man laugh.gif

True-but you must confess it's a marriage of convenience if ever you saw one.

I reckon Bawheid's as bent as a bandy banana, and probably not averse to the odd sheep when he's run out of tartan condoms.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 14:20:17
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 27 2008, 02:14 PM) [snapback]467550[/snapback]
Nothing.

Does this mean i'm a lapsed Tim? ohmy.gif

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It can mean just what you want it to mean, Mr Bam.

That'll be you skiving off for your four month paid summer holiday today I'm led to believe.

See thae effin teachers!
mortonjag 2008-06-27 15:14:32
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 27 2008, 02:41 PM) [snapback]467563[/snapback]
Mirror, Mirror on the wall...........................!!!

I hope you're not calling me a sexually deprived old buffoon!

Good gracious-next it'll be 'POUFFE' and the full weight of Moddery will descend on you like a ton of feathers. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 15:16:53
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Jun 27 2008, 03:05 PM) [snapback]467570[/snapback]
That's pretty dismissive before the season's even started....

Agreed.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 15:24:01
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 27 2008, 03:16 PM) [snapback]467576[/snapback]
Spain were my tips to win it with Croatia my outsiders.

FourFourTwo also had a great article called '25 Reasons Why Spain Will Win Euro 2008' - after reading that I was convinced they would win it. Wish I backed them - I know they haven't won it yet but Ithink they'll beat Germany on Sunday.

I have been watching most matches and generally been a wee bit disappointed with the tournament from the entertainment point of view.

Nobody can accuse Spain of being boring to watch-they were a pleasure to behold last night, and if they take their game to the Germans like that it should be a cracking final.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 15:26:48
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 27 2008, 03:24 PM) [snapback]467581[/snapback]
Yes man, I can swear everywhere! f*nn**s.



You mean vaginas!

HA I see what you mean-some c*** has seen sense at last, but wait-the singular is v*****! thumbdown.gif eek.gif nerd.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 16:11:20
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jun 27 2008, 03:26 PM) [snapback]467582[/snapback]
deego prefers his men brunette laugh.gif

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He lies so convincingly! crying.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 16:14:24
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 27 2008, 04:11 PM) [snapback]467603[/snapback]
I expected more from you too, handsome balls. Less than 5 minutes is unacceptable.

You're coming over as a promiscuous little cheat. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 16:32:10
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jun 27 2008, 04:29 PM) [snapback]467617[/snapback]
have you ever been in red ?tongue.gif
if so, the bouncers have lowered their standards

Do bouncers still 'bounce' those days?
mortonjag 2008-06-27 16:36:18
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 27 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]467619[/snapback]
They were obviously bombarded with the nanny state campaign
for responsible drinking .

I read about a terrible loss the other day in Munich . Yes a beer lorry overturned spilling its cargo of wheat beer crying.gif crying.gif crying.gif I was in mourning all day .

Don't drink and drive


















































You'll spill it!
mortonjag 2008-06-27 16:50:53
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jun 27 2008, 04:34 PM) [snapback]467623[/snapback]
you'll not sell many to morton fans, as it seems quite a lot already have them !

You may have misunderstood Chrissiboi's business acumen. It's probable that in the relatively near future many folk will have to extract their heads from their arses where they've been firmly embedded for several years. The blinkers are to protect their eyes from too much light.

I understand that Chrissiboi is also patenting a new mouthwash guaranteed to remove the last traces of faeces from those affected by chronic brown tongue syndrome.

Finally he's mass producing his new DVD-mainly aimed at the children (though the under twelves may enjoy it too) entitled;


DONALD DUCKS MICKEY MOUSE SHOW
mortonjag 2008-06-27 17:04:06
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 27 2008, 04:53 PM) [snapback]467634[/snapback]
As promised I paid my £100 as well - Big Andy got it about ten days ago - there were a lack of matched offers for the other hundred - but between us it looks like we've got about £250-£300 to get this started.

Not bad ! Great idea MJ.

TonInDublin

Thanks TiD

It's £300 I believe, and I stand by my pledge to double any further donations up to a total of £100-from those who accused me of attention seeking. Surely they don't grudge this sad old loser a wee bit of glory if it's in a good cause! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 17:22:44
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 27 2008, 05:12 PM) [snapback]467642[/snapback]
Forget it, tickly nips.

'Jag', you whispered, 'from now on I shall call you 'tickly nips'-no one else shall ever share our secret'.



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mortonjag 2008-06-27 18:08:09
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 27 2008, 05:53 PM) [snapback]467672[/snapback]
You could be right , if the business fails I can still become the commercial manager at the club . rolleyes.gif

You'll have demonstrated the skill you you need to better existing standards.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 18:21:31
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 27 2008, 05:22 PM) [snapback]467650[/snapback]
Would the medical term not be vaginae?

Funnily enough NO-despite the Profession being steeped in Latin, 'vaginas' is the commonly used term, though 'vaginae' is literally correct. The word processor interestingly doesn't want 'vaginae' either!

QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 27 2008, 05:41 PM) [snapback]467661[/snapback]
I don't have a f***ing goat, it's my sheep I'm worried about. Stay away!

Would that be your f*cking sheep?


Pouffe shepherd kept mountain goats
mortonjag 2008-06-27 18:36:50 I have received an e-mail from Crawford Rae. I'm grateful to him for responding quickly to mine.

The important comment reads as follows.

We can confirm that Alistair is a director of the Greenock Morton and that the delay has been down to him being out of the Country as the form requires not only his signature but details of his other directorships.


mortonjag 2008-06-27 19:18:47
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 27 2008, 06:56 PM) [snapback]467708[/snapback]
well there's a better explanation..

as mentioned on another thread, gmfc ltd took a while to do the paperwork for companies house - like end of may. that's why the filings for the two retiring directors are dated in june.

these forms do not require signatures of the outgoing directors. the form for appointing a director does.

so if mr donald has been out of circulation since the beginning of june, he won't have filled in and signed the form yet.

or is that too reasonable?

The club, or rather Crawford has given an assurance that Mr Donald is indeed seen as a Director.

If indeed the failure to register is merely due to slip shod behaviour I'm more than happy to be re-assured.

My original question on this thread remains open to legitimate debate.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 19:34:26
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 27 2008, 06:43 PM) [snapback]467691[/snapback]
laugh.gif i'd be totally up for that! looks well fun.

Don't you recognise the one on the right? sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 19:37:40
QUOTE(muttley @ Jun 27 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]467711[/snapback]
veiwing your profile yourself also counts towards this, only about 5 people have probably looked at you, the rest has been your self pleasuring yourself!

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I never view my own profile so I'm the winner! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 19:40:19
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 27 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]467700[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Check the state of those paupers.

POPPERS!
mortonjag 2008-06-27 19:54:03
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jun 27 2008, 07:31 PM) [snapback]467734[/snapback]
Oh dear, that's that conspiracy theory blown out of the water then. Anyone for humble pie? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jun 27 2008, 07:34 PM) [snapback]467741[/snapback]
Did Crawford Rae not say it was due to Mr Donald being out of the country? mellow.gif

That's a stupid question! Unless of course you can't read.

QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 27 2008, 07:36 PM) [snapback]467744[/snapback]
i think this is where we came in. i'm not sure what you mean by debate though. i would have thought that the word was 'speculation'.

Ubiquitous Chap-Club director posted 'absent' at the recent EGM-says little-supposed to be on Board in ADVISORY capacity smile.gif -quoted as 'I won't be investing at this stage'-worth mega bucks-well known Hun-


What's the score folks?


It looks like an open question to me Alistair.

QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jun 27 2008, 07:44 PM) [snapback]467756[/snapback]
MJ raised a perfectly legitimate point about this, and I'm glad that this has now been concluded without any of the more pointed suggestions being proven correct.

Well done MJ.

I'm sure we all feel the same?

Thanks. My intention was always to determine AD's actual remit. It was only when I discovered that he was not listed with Companies House that I began to ponder other possibilities. Crawford Rae has made a welcome statement by way of explanation.

I guess we can all get back to wondering about the actual remit.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 20:02:48
QUOTE(C B @ Jun 27 2008, 06:53 PM) [snapback]467706[/snapback]
I hope you are in a head on collision and only Kevin survives mad.gif

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QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 27 2008, 07:17 PM) [snapback]467725[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Jun 27 2008, 06:53 PM) [snapback]467706[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I hope you are in a head on collision and only Kevin survives mad.gif

What a f***ing lovely thing to say.

I think he was in jest-anyway how would you like that guy running headlong at you with that glazed 'where do I go next' look'? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 20:25:35
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jun 27 2008, 07:58 PM) [snapback]467780[/snapback]
Was there ever really a question to answer though?

Isn't he being appointed as a non-executive director to widen the skill-base of the existing board? A common enough situation, i'd have thought.

If he wants to invest some of his alleged millions, at a later stage, so much the better.

No?

It seems that you are asking the same sort of questions as me, but from a different angle. Alistair apparently joined the Board almost six months ago, and may very well have been 'out of the country' ever since.

There is no question about his pedigree with Accenture-he's NOT a Fudgy Wudgy wallah.

Is he planning to buy Shoogly out?

Is he REALLY acting in 'an advisory capacity' from some remote tax haven, so that he can puff up with pride when he checks the scores of a Saturday?

Will he be investing in the current share issue?

Has he given up his allegiance to Rangers in favour of our humble little Club?

Does Shoogly see him as a threat, but a necessary evil?

I was excited when I heard that such a rich man had a 'passion' for our wee club.

I was then slightly disappointed when he said he's only here in an advisory capacity, 'cos everybody knows Shoogly doesn't take advice.

I felt reassured again when DI mentioned him after the Partick game.

Some are scared of this 'Bogey Man'-is he another HS perhaps-a Mileson even?

What size of shoes does he take?

Does he drive a Bentley, or is it chauffeur driven?

Folk DO ask questions! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 20:38:30
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jun 27 2008, 08:30 PM) [snapback]467799[/snapback]
and there's no harm in asking.

It seems to me, though, that the answer to a lot of these is either:

a) none of our business, or
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mortonjag 2008-06-27 20:41:26
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 27 2008, 08:37 PM) [snapback]467804[/snapback]
no, we have a right to know

Is that what you REALLY think Alistair?
mortonjag 2008-06-27 20:44:39
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 27 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]467738[/snapback]
NewTon how do you find all this stuff? do you just go around looking for the craziest stories on the internet? biggrin.gif

For what it's worth darling, I believe that Newt is one of the least understood posters on this pubic massage board!
mortonjag 2008-06-27 20:48:42
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 27 2008, 07:50 PM) [snapback]467768[/snapback]
Tell me about it.

Our central heating and hot water boiler is fulled by oil. Last autumn it was €0.58 per litre, today it's €0.98 a litre.

And I had to fill the tank this week.... almost 3000 litres and a bawhair short of €3000 (2500 quid) to fill the f***er. And I'll be lucky if that lasts a year.

That's €250 (that's over 200 quid) per month just for heating and hot water.

Ah'm naw happy. sad.gif


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QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 27 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]467781[/snapback]
Stop yer whingeing, you can afford it. It costs me £50 per week in petrol just to get to my work, but I'm not complaining, (probably because I get paid loads of dosh for doing so.) tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 27 2008, 08:11 PM) [snapback]467794[/snapback]
4 bed, 200m2 - fairly big but not huge.

Problem is that where I live there's no mains gas supply, so I'd have to put an ugly gas tank in the garden (at least the oil tank is buried under the garden).

Just have to start wearing jumpers in the winter I think.

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mortonjag 2008-06-27 20:52:47
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 27 2008, 07:49 PM) [snapback]467764[/snapback]
have you lost a bit of weight? ohmy.gif


Only a little! sad.gif
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 27 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]467800[/snapback]
I think most of us over here graduated from calling people a homo in primary school to get at them, Trick! smile.gif That's what I'm saying mate wink.gif

While he's being spectacularly nasty to you and your wife, upaclose is at least showing some panache and originality with his patter, I have to say! And haven't you two got history, so I'm staying well out the road!

You expect more from me mate, surely someone who can decimate a pub full of people in 10 seconds like Jason Bourne doesn't need back ups!

Go on yerself Trick! Get him back with some good patter or stop biting!

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mortonjag 2008-06-27 20:57:12
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jun 27 2008, 07:43 PM) [snapback]467754[/snapback]
I've broken the 2000 mark! thumbup2.gif

Then you are entitled to 'Wakey's Walloper'
mortonjag 2008-06-27 21:00:23 I'm not sure whether I should be gracing 'Cowards' Corner'.

I have every faith in the wisdom and even handedness of our Mods.

Some may suggest I'm a liar.

I've often taken worse abuse.

I can live with it.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 21:03:37
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 27 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]467810[/snapback]
no, it's what mortonjag said


I wouldn't listen to that decrepit old s*** stirrer if I were you.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 21:28:34
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 27 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]467829[/snapback]
wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-27 21:36:21
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 27 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]467826[/snapback]
he's harmless, like a doctor with warm hands giving a prostate examination.

You never fail to amaze me with your openess-your prostate felt-well shall we say-EXCITING! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 21:39:17
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 27 2008, 09:04 PM) [snapback]467825[/snapback]
liar.


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QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 27 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]467830[/snapback]
Aww, that's a shame. You'll be missed.

If you promise to let me stroke your hairy chest and whisper sweet 'Shooglys' in your ear, I may reconsider-mon petit macaque. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 21:42:42
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jun 27 2008, 09:26 PM) [snapback]467835[/snapback]
now that was a quality post
trick here's the thing..... upaclose is a funny c***. end of. there's 3000miles of brine between u and most on this message board. yanks have a poor sense of irony to scottish observers. much as i love upacloses patter i think it's time to make things clear.

HE DOESNT KNOW YER MISSUS!!!!

if i posted on your fukn army site i'd seem like a lily livered surrender monkey but if they started slaggin my missus i wouldnt give a feck. chill man! donga etc are good guys so just cheese it a bit eh?

suppose am just bored wi seeing an easy target (no offence but its a cultural thing) biting every time.

truce guys??
btw i've enjoyed talkin to u in the past trick but stop biting!!!!!!!!!!

FAO trick

Forza is a w*nker-me an Fingz on your side.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 21:44:54
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 27 2008, 09:27 PM) [snapback]467838[/snapback]
It's oor oil tae ! mad.gif

lubricate Bawheid's posterior aperture with?
mortonjag 2008-06-27 21:49:10
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 27 2008, 09:45 PM) [snapback]467847[/snapback]
enough about my openess, it was tight until you put your hand in there!

...and to your amazement, your arse fitted it like a glove-I've always thought 'mitten' was more apt, but there's no harm in boasting.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 21:51:56
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jun 27 2008, 09:41 PM) [snapback]467844[/snapback]
sad.gif oops, i just pissed myself laughing biggrin.gif ...mj led right up the garden path.

Rabies is incurable.


THANK F*CK
mortonjag 2008-06-27 22:02:18
QUOTE(C B @ Jun 27 2008, 09:27 PM) [snapback]467839[/snapback]
I'm sure Super Kev would tell him to swerve anyway sleep.gif

'See that c*nt Finlayson-he's a f*ckin' nightmare mate-he runs straight at ye-ye pit in yer tackle an' the c*nt's bye ye-'JEEZ' yer finkin' were f*ckd-yer heid's doon-ye look up-an the c*nt's comin' at ye AGAIN!
mortonjag 2008-06-27 22:06:57
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jun 27 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]467722[/snapback]
A thread about potential groundsharing and you try to turn it round to your vendetta AGAIN !!

Vendetta-surely not!

Crawford and I have exchanged utterly civilised communications this very evening.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 22:10:18
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 27 2008, 10:04 PM) [snapback]467854[/snapback]
Wishing ill health on someone....a new low? rolleyes.gif

You're better than that MJ. happy.gif

REALLY?


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mortonjag 2008-06-27 22:15:15
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 27 2008, 10:09 PM) [snapback]467857[/snapback]
What's your greatest hope for this season?

That we get a really good Cup run

- And your biggest fear?

We don't have a decent goalie

- Most important player

McManus or Weatherson

- Cult hero/terrace favourite

Struggling...but will go for Wake..why not !

- Keep an eye out for (young player)

We don't really have a young player to look out for I'm afraid

- Player you'd happily drive to his next club

McAnespie or Stevenson

- What one change would you make at your club?

Pipe band at half time.
- Have you got the right manager?

Aye, for once I do believe we have

- What advice would you give him?

Sign a decent goalie
- Which team do you most want to beat this season?

Airdrie or Dundee

- Opposition player you despise.

Tosh (QoftS)
- Opposition player you secretly admire

Was going to say McDonald of Dundee, but he is gone
- Where will you finish?

Depends on what goalie we sign...But we won't be relegated

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'Live is life' played for you by the Spurtle Memorial tchoocters
mortonjag 2008-06-27 22:23:47
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 27 2008, 09:56 PM) [snapback]467851[/snapback]
thats not what it's like at all you idiot.

I met port-ton
I sure was smitten
his arse was a fit for my glove


I met port -ton
I fell in love
his arse was a fit for my mitten

I met port-ton
I showed my hand
he smiled

I was pleased
mortonjag 2008-06-27 22:35:12
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jun 27 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]467866[/snapback]
How would anyone on here know that? Why don't you email Crawford Rae like your pal MJ? laugh.gif laugh.gif

Point of correction itchy baws!

Mortonjag has never, nor has ever felt the need, to e-mail Crawford Rae, or his Daddy.

Mortonjag merely asked questions, and Crawford was gracious enough to provide an answer.

In that respect, he behaved as one would expect a gentleman to do.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 22:43:27
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 27 2008, 10:40 PM) [snapback]467879[/snapback]
Ah wish the doc would just tell me straight mellow.gif

If wishes were horses then beggars would ride!
mortonjag 2008-06-27 22:52:00
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 27 2008, 10:37 PM) [snapback]467878[/snapback]
im afraid not, out of those three things i am only one of them, i'll let you decide which one.

POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-06-27 22:54:45
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 27 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]467884[/snapback]
i bet we get the internet shut down and Edinton arrested within 5 minutes.
edit to add: im foaming at the gash for this new forum, but i should have probably kept that for when im in there.

I f*kin' know-you're almost smothering me.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 23:16:25
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 27 2008, 10:51 PM) [snapback]467885[/snapback]
By nice to Mortonjag he may be able to help or just put some newspapers down

those stealth ninja 's at the Trust

AHH-the TRUSHHHHHHHHHT.!


Now here's a wee puzzle.

Mortonjag asked a question of the trust-not unreasonable Mortonjag thought-after all we'd mistakenly believed that they were the 'fans representative on the board'!

NO, NO , NO they squealed-we are FINANCIAL people-we only represent Trust members and shareholders!

'Ah'! Mortonjag thought-those are truly decent people-I must appeal to their better nature.

'Trust people-may Mortonjag beseech your help-what indeed is the score with Alistair Donald-the new financial person'?

Go away nasty old man-we only answer to members!

TRUST MEMBER

'Listen guys-ignore that old fud and give me the run down-is AD brand new or brand new?


Erm.......well......we think he's brand new, but we're a wee bit scared to....erm..rock the boat..you know how it is with Mr Rae and his Menstrual Cycle, and the price of sugar, and revisions to the Methodist Bible, and the credit squeeze, and Spain beating Russia and STUFF!

FANNYS




mortonjag 2008-06-27 23:25:52
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jun 26 2008, 11:20 PM) [snapback]467151[/snapback]
theres a couple o songs that I found on you tube that I can't find on any dodgy download sites and I was wondering if its possible to save the song as an mp3 file from the video feed and if it's possible clear and concise instructions are a must. cheers

I'm not telling you because you're a jobby.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 23:35:42
QUOTE(CJTon @ Jun 27 2008, 11:26 PM) [snapback]467936[/snapback]
Mortonjag

Told you that it was just an administrative issue. AD is a thoroughly decent chap with local roots and an asset to GMFC. He may have a passion for one of the old firm but he has also seen to have passion for the Ton too.

Maybe about time you were a bit more positive about the club now that you have been given the information by Crawford.

Cheers

I realise I may have been a wee bit negative in the past.

Your post has given me everything I needed.

I shall strive more vigorously than ever to obliterate preconceptions, sycophancy, and downright stupidity.

Thank you, and 'goodnight'-the Monkey beckons, and he hasn't has a decent shag for two weeks.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 05:58:07
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 27 2008, 11:42 PM) [snapback]467952[/snapback]
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Bryan-there was absolutely no need for that. If ever proof positive was required that the Trust has utterly no clout at Cappielow, this is it. Not only is the Trust a toothless bulldog-it's a cowardly one which runs and hides in a corner yelping defiantly at those who call it in question.

QUOTE(CJTon @ Jun 27 2008, 11:53 PM) [snapback]467962[/snapback]
I am certainly no sycophant and if you are calling me stupid then I take quite an offence to that.

My comments are based on my perception from actually meeting AD.

I have had the chance for over 30 years to see the inner workings of the club (by the way I have no formal connection with the club) and have got to know the people running the club. I know how hard they have worked to get the club to where it is today and I know exactly how bad it was in the times of HS. I have seen first hand the respect GMFC has built in the football community from a ruinous base back in the bad old days.

Our club is not doing too bad at all having survived in the 1st division last season and is hopefully set up now to move forward to the next stage. That is what everybody wants and obviously people will have different visions as to how we will achieve this

Lets get the 'sycophant' and 'stupid' stuff out of the road first-simply READ what I said. If you have a basic comprehension of English, you will realise that my comment was NOT specifically directed at you.

Now to YOUR post. You seem to think I'M stupid. That's a mistake that's been made before, and let me assure you-it's an extremely foolish one. You said-

'Maybe about time you were a bit more positive about the club now that you have been given the information by Crawford.'

I said I'd try even more vigorously to eradicate preconceptions, sycophancy, and downright stupidity-that in my opinion is extremely positive, and would be helpful to any football club which wants to move out of the dark ages.

Your failure to post earlier is yet another example of 'I know but I'm not telling those ignorant fans on 'the Rag'. That is in my opinion utterly negative and helps nobody-least of all the Club you represent.

Let's assume for the moment that you ARE Crawford Rae-you might as well be since you appear to know all there is to know-with your 'first hand information', and 'knowledge of the inner workings of the club'.

Why did you not post at the very beginning of the thread the information you e-mailed to me earlier?

That would have been positive-it would have allayed fears and preconceptions, prevented countless stupid posts, and silenced the sycophants whose tongues must occasionally irritate your nether regions.

Instead, you remained silent, perpetuating the divide and rule culture which is the hallmark of a club you claim has 'built respect in the football community'.

I endorse your desire to see the club move forward-of course it's what we ALL want, but please accept the possibility that it's your own perception of reality which is skewed.

Finally, you must know that I've been the biggest critic of the current regime on this pubic massage board. Forget all the ridiculous sniping at me from fools who flutter round Mortonjag like moths to a candle flame. I DO have a whole dossier of information which indicates that the club IS run in an utterly haphazard and amateurish fashion. I've never been sure that publicising the more 'tasty' material would do any good, though it would certainly whet the appetite of the aforesaid, who do NOT appear to have the club's viability as a primary concern.

If you'd like Mortonjag to help you move the club forward from the INSIDE, you may invite him onto the Board in an advisory capacity. He spends all of his time in this country, has an undying passion for ONE football club, is highly qualified with plenty of business experience, and isn't scared to ask questions. You have his e-mail address.

If you are not Crawford Rae, will you pass this message on please.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 07:21:34
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 28 2008, 12:41 AM) [snapback]467999[/snapback]
"Hide behind?"? Don't follow you, Ghosty.

Looks like the mods think there's a need for another forum.

Apologies if you are not hurt, you seemed to be getting angry and upset.

That could be described as a slight divergence from fact.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 10:19:45
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 28 2008, 10:07 AM) [snapback]468092[/snapback]
You been neglecting monkey again? rolleyes.gif

Don't be silly-he's been out of the country.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 10:27:07
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 28 2008, 08:40 AM) [snapback]468067[/snapback]
Re point 1, I agree.

The only socially acceptable term to describe walking out with a young lady is 'winching'.

I'd never think of that term when I take the wee dug for a crap.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 10:29:57
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 28 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]468072[/snapback]
The right to make one's point via marches should be free to all or free to none.
If the cooncil charge all others like republican flute bands and stop the war coalition then they should charge the hunnites, if the others go free so should the hunnites.
Tear away short arse. huh.gif

Considering that most of the orange scum thickos probably evade cooncil tax they should be made to pay with a whacking surcharge.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 10:35:05
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 28 2008, 09:10 AM) [snapback]468070[/snapback]
Quite.

Movement CHC? Izzat naw another word for a keech? rolleyes.gif

Movement, or more properly 'motions' is a well honed term for keech.

Bawheid's lot have been going through the motions for over a year.

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 28 2008, 09:21 AM) [snapback]468074[/snapback]
This is one by-election the Tories will NOT take from Labour laugh.gif

The SNP will run them close, if not win it all together. 13 thousand majority rolleyes.gif I think it's possible given the popularity of Salmond and the SNP at the moment.

I think it's equally possible that he may be left wondering what hit him.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 10:38:42
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 28 2008, 10:32 AM) [snapback]468097[/snapback]
Today's Daily Ranger says we are in competition with Dunfermline for him.

What cost would be involved?
mortonjag 2008-06-28 11:35:03
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 28 2008, 10:53 AM) [snapback]468112[/snapback]
Where have I heard that before? unsure.gif

It's one of those terms you hear regularly in business-similar to being told by a secretary that 'Mr Goodwillie is in a meeting', when his hand is actually half way up her kilt.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 12:04:24
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Jun 28 2008, 11:51 AM) [snapback]468128[/snapback]
No way will he displace Paul Gallagher. He'd be daft to sign for them.

He's a professional footballer with an agent. He'll do the deal that suits him best-presumably money will figure in it.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 12:08:36
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Jun 28 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]468129[/snapback]
I like the idea of 9 pre-season games.

McInally was half-way through a season and still didn't know his best formation, 9 games is plenty to figure out your best team, formation etc.

I think DI has to be respected in his judgement. It's not his fault that the club is skint, and he clearly sees this as a wise build up to the new season. Of course we could pick up a couple of knocks, but those are friendly games-hopefully we won't get any debilitating injuries.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 12:35:27
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jan 13 2008, 02:24 PM) [snapback]381687[/snapback]
Reading between the lines here, i think this may be a stealth takeover by Alistair Donald, who was one of the parties who made an approach to DDFR a few years ago about investing in the club. There was an article in the Scottish Daily Express about it back then, and Shoogly wasn't amused and was critical of the reporter and the journo came onto the messageboards to defend himself. Alistair Donald is/was from Largs if i can remember correctly.

The criticism of DDFR in recent seasons may have taken its toll on him, and he may have accepted an offer from Mr Donald to either buy the club or even dilute his shareholding. I cant see a man of his calibre being brought on board to be yet another yes man dancing to the tune of the Pied Piper of Fort Matilda, or just to make up the numbers in the boardroom. He is there to make a difference and we can only welcome that.

We seem to know even less now than we did then.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 12:47:21
QUOTE(calton @ Jun 28 2008, 12:23 PM) [snapback]468136[/snapback]
ohmy.gif Hers's a novel idea for the new season.........................................lets trust the judgement of the management team and review our progress at the end of the season.
Wow.......a real lightbulb moment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

laugh.gif


If you were alluding to my post-that's certainly not what I said or suggested! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-28 13:00:24 Let battle commence. Whichever pig gets to the trough first-it won't be uglier than the sow who's had a bellyful.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 13:38:49
QUOTE(dazed @ Jun 28 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]468151[/snapback]
Let battle commence. Whichever pig gets to the trough first-it won't be uglier than the sow who's had a bellyful.
[/quote

there is no battle MJ only answering the post thats all. no personal greivance at all.

laugh.gif

I was talking about the new Leader of Gordy Pordy's puddings.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 14:37:26
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 28 2008, 02:00 PM) [snapback]468173[/snapback]
Trust you to resurrect a five month old thread when using the thread that's currently running on the topic would have sufficed. rolleyes.gif

mellow.gif


That's not fair Naitch. I was still putting the finishing touches to my Mummy's kitchen back in January-I only came in at the end of all the excitement and debate surrounding Mr Donald's appointment. Today I looked back to see what folk had been thinking and saying then, and it makes fascinating reading.

Let's just say that folk were VERY excited at the time-lots of theories were being propounded and almost to a man Mr Donald was seen as 'having a financial agenda'.


If I'm reading the messages from Crawford and the mysterious CJ Ton (who seems to know more about Alistair Donald and Crawford than they know about themselves) correctly, the true picture is this.

Mr Donald joined the Board in January as a non executive director. His sole remit was to advise on the bigger financial picture-not to get involved in the day to day affairs of the Club, and CERTAINLY not with any intention of becoming financially involved AT THAT STAGE.

He has been spotted two or three times since then-notably at the Sportsmans Dinner, and has had ample time to complete the paperwork for Companies House. Clearly that was something which either skipped his attention because he has little REAL interest in being a Director of Morton FC, or for whatever other reason he chose not to sign when the opportunity was available.

It appears that the Club have subsequently been unable to forward the relevant paperwork because he is 'out of the country'.


My take on the big picture is that Donald IS interested in gaining control of the club-why else bother his arse in the first place. It was clearly a bit of a coup for the Club to announce his appointment in January-our situation under JM was pretty dire, and Shoogly needed to deflect attention.

Step in Mr Donald and his ONE AND ONLY communication with the fans via the Tilly. This thread reflects feelings at the time-the Raes it seemed, had 'won a watch'.

Five months on nobody wants to talk about Mr Donald-it's almost like his name has become a swear word in Inverclyde. Nobody quotes him, and certainly NOBODY tells us of all the clever financial things he's constantly doing behind the scenes!

It doesn't add up-has he secretly had a squabble with Shoogly over something-the value of the Club perhaps. It looks to me as though the Club's now been left 'holding the baby' while Mr Donald does exactly as he pleases. Is that the true story?

I'd just like to know-I'm sure others would too. I accept that there are certain things which should remain private, but why print a big splash in the local paper if you don't want the public interest, and then seemingly disappear like snow off a dyke?
mortonjag 2008-06-28 14:46:50
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 28 2008, 02:41 PM) [snapback]468186[/snapback]
He's not your type.

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mortonjag 2008-06-28 14:54:08
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 28 2008, 02:14 PM) [snapback]468180[/snapback]
it was directed at caling us fannys including me when all i have been is helpful... if we have no clout or not thats a different question. we welcome the questions about us and what we do, hopefully it will make our egm interesting. if you or anyone thinks you can helpful to us let me know...



Bryan my boy, it certainly wasn't directed at your good self-you are ALWAYS helpful-AND pleasant with it, and seemingly unlike certain others on the Trust Committee you have a sense of humour.

I could have called them much worse. I've always found fan.nies relatively pleasant. blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-28 15:50:02 Well done-good experienced manager whom we let go to bring in a Muppet.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 15:53:01
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 28 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]468197[/snapback]
OK gang, here goes ....... drum roll, fanfare etc etc etc.

The Jesse Ventura Tobacco Chewing Forum is pretty much good to go - and we hope to launch it tonight.

Point 1 : Here's the deal ...... the following has been lifted verbatum from the forum - these are the only rules - simple and effective ...... please read and take note. This will be pinned in the forum and used as a proxy for what's acceptable.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Ok listen up, if you want to be a goddamn sexual tyrannosaurus like Jesse Ventura then here's what goes and what doesn't:

- Keep it legal
- That's it.

Capice?

Disclaimer: The views expressed within this sub-forum are those of the author and the author only and do not represent the views of Greenock Morton Football Club Ltd, or indeed the management of this forum.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Point 2 : We won't be password protecting the forum. There's obvious limitations to that, especially if people decide to post the password to everybody - the intent of this forum is that it will be for people who are not averse to a bit more "in your face" banter, some swearies and more heated debate/s***e/arguments/pish * (delete as appropriate).

By its nature then it isn't suitable for everyone - so we will control membership through a user group. We already have a list of people who have either expressed an interest or are regular board members who fit the bill of being the right age/mentality etc. But it isn't exhaustive - so anyone who wants to play on the new board give us a shout and we'll work to get you added over the next day or two - obviously depending on the uptake this might take some time - so bear with us as we set it up. Tontastic and Edinton have been brilliant in helping us with this but their lives aren't so empty that they can be at their PC 24*7 attending to membership requests. (well Edinton's life is probably that empty but I was saving that for my first topic on the new board). Seriously, the two lads have gone above and beyond the call of duty so work with us as we get folk added.

Point 3 Some of you will be pre-approved when we go live tonight - basically you'll see and have access to the forum - this doesn't mean you HAVE to use it - if your on the list and DON'T want to be, let us know - we'll take you off. Please though, spare us the rock-throwing. If it doesn't work at least it won't have troubled you ! That's the intent. If anyone tries it, hates it and wants removed the option is there.

Point 4 Me and Cruisehound will be the two people given the huge responsibility (cough, cough) of being the Fun Patrol. We see this forum being the same as many we've had on this board, and other boards, over the years. What it helps avoid is the example we had where Trick and Upaclose were slagging each other and other people were complaining on their behalf ! By the way Trick, yo mama is so fat that ..... ach, I'll save it for later. Myself and the dug have no desire to be intervening in pishy arguments - so if ye cannae take it or don't like it - you don't need to play on it. BUT ....... use a bit of cop on - nae porn links, no kicking the arse out of it - there's things on this board that will still be unacceptable on the new one - but they'll be few and far between, and so obvious there shouldn't be any confusion. However, starting the way I intend to go on, Boozie has been barred for four days - harsh but fair, so GIRUY Raymie. That'll teach ye not be logged on when we go live.

Final Point Most importantly - if you do want to be part of the new board please leave a message on here stating that - myself and the hound will send a list to the two lads and hopefully get us up and running tonight. I'm going out tonight at about eight, so hopefully I can get a list to the lads before then, we'll activate the list we have already and when I get back in at half twelve there'll be s***e patter aplenty.

Thats is all ....... viva The Jesse Ventura Tobacco Chewing Forum, and all who sail in her.

TonInDublin (good cop)

F*ck off ya oirish pouffe.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 15:56:10
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 28 2008, 02:07 PM) [snapback]468176[/snapback]
Was it you?

Giffnock this morning, sky blue skoda Octavia, St Andrew's flags painted on the bumpers and a reg plate of
1 SNP?

Don't think so Mr Bam-I've seen that motor several times and the driver looks quite normal.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 15:59:58
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 28 2008, 02:26 PM) [snapback]468183[/snapback]
Just been out to buy my books for the summer hols. I got....

The Last Fighting Tommy (Harry Patch's autobiography)
Slam - Nick Hornby (a safe if somewhat uninspired choice)
Then We Came To The End - Joshua Ferris

If you've read any of them I'd appreciate your comments.

What are you going to be reading on your hols this year?

Dale Carnegie's 'How to Win Friends and Influence People'.

I never tire of it and it's stood me in good stead.

Highly recommended.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 16:36:38
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 28 2008, 04:03 PM) [snapback]468215[/snapback]
Pheww !! I was getting worried for his safety I had visions of him on some deserted island being chased be cannibals with a large pot with Alistair Donald stew written on it .

So he has been back in the country since January rolleyes.gif

So I'm-I believe-reliably informed-though I wouldn't know him from a Fudgy Wudgy. I've never seen anybody in the Directors Box at Cappielow who looks important! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-28 16:41:30
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Jun 28 2008, 04:10 PM) [snapback]468220[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Nice try. rolleyes.gif

dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-28 16:44:28
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 28 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]468224[/snapback]
Do you want in or not? rolleyes.gif tongue.gif
PS I want in.

You're one too.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 16:52:19
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 28 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]468175[/snapback]
I'm happy with the current government, as the Essen Pee have to live with a manifesto that can't be financed because they never bellieved it would have to as they expected to lose the election people are liable to become disenchanted.

The move by the other parties to allow bawheid to form a minority administration was imho correct. The best argument against bawheid's boys is to allow them to govern.



QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 28 2008, 03:23 PM) [snapback]468202[/snapback]
Eh, don't really see what you are saying there?
You want the SNP to continue in government because they will make a mess of it??

This is the wrecking attitude the socialists have had in the past - We don't want to be the government, just disrupt who ever is in government.

News Flash. SNP are far more able than any of the previous administrations to sit in the Scottish parliament. Sure they haven't done 100% of their manifesto, but with a minority they've done very well. Labour in westminster have a healthy majority and are struggling to get anything done.

In fact your attitude is entirely representative of the current Labour MSP's. Not willing to make any constructive contributions to the parliament. Just wait and live in hope that sooner or later the SNP will do something wrong and the people will deliver them back to their position as the government. pathetic.

Aye, indeed you are young man if you are not prepared to accept the considered opinion of a fellow poster who is vastly brighter and more experienced than yourself.

It's also pathetic that you have your little huff button pressed because you cannot cope with the Jag.

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mortonjag 2008-06-28 16:55:26
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 28 2008, 04:43 PM) [snapback]468233[/snapback]
Appearances can be deceptive jagermeister.

He drives with the seat quite far forward. Claymore C*ck would find that impossible.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 20:20:54
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 28 2008, 06:51 PM) [snapback]468268[/snapback]
but have you seen anyone of self importance rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(Savo @ Jun 28 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]468278[/snapback]
I believe Alistair Donald is the man sitting right beside mortonjag's bete noire in THIS picture.

That, funnily enough, is almost exactly how I'd pictured AD! He makes HS look like the classroom dunce. Nobody crosses that guy-I'll guarantee that from one look at his coupon. If he really wants the Ton, he'll get the Club. Mark my words. I reckon Shoogly has met his match AND SOME!!! bag.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-28 20:39:33
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 28 2008, 08:15 PM) [snapback]468352[/snapback]
Póg ma thoin ph34r.gif

MY lips are sealed.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 20:44:02
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 28 2008, 05:55 PM) [snapback]468248[/snapback]
I see that the SNP are think about putting Miss 'Pure Dead Brilliant' herself, Elaine C Smith up to stand in predominately labour heartland Glasgow East. If they do the punters will vote her in and it will be another bad night for Labour.

Don't know why people vote for actors, but they do!!

They have no choice.

QUOTE(Youngsa @ Jun 28 2008, 06:14 PM) [snapback]468255[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif Having worked closely with all Scottish administrations since devolution, I can confirm that the SNP are as useless as the previous government and will no doubt be remembered as useless as those yet to come. They have the same ability to not listen to good advice and the same ability to ask 'whats in it for me'

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mortonjag 2008-06-28 20:47:42
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 28 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]468365[/snapback]
I will have to give that try. Not read any funny material in ages...apart from Upaclose's dismantling of board members.

I don't really bother with fiction-the truth-as they say-is stranger.

'Brush up your Erse' is my current pleasure. Soon I shall be able to communicate more meaningfully with TiD.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 21:01:05
Rose Garden
Lynn Anderson

I beg your pardon I never promised you a rose garden
Along with the sunshine there's gotta be a little rain sometime
When you take you gotta give so live and let live and let go oh oh oh oh
I beg your pardon I never promised you a rose garden

I could promise you things like big diamond rings
But you don't find roses growin' on stalks of glover
So you better think it over
When it's sweet talking you could make it come true
I would give you the world right now on a silver platter
But what would it matter
So smile for a while and let's be jolly love shouldn't be so melancholy
Come along and share the good times while we can

I beg your pardon I never promised you a rose garden
Along with the sunshine there's gotta be a little rain sometime
I beg your pardon I never promised you a rose garden

I could sing you a tune and promise you the moon
But if that's what it takes to hold you I'd just as soon let you go
But there's one thing I want you to know
You'd better look before you leap still waters run deep
And there won't always be someone there to pull you out
And you know what I'm talking about
So smile for a while and let's be jolly love shouldn't be so melancholy
Come along and share the good times while we can

I beg your pardon I never promised you a rose garden
Along with the sunshine there's gotta be a little rain sometime.....
mortonjag 2008-06-28 21:11:04
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 28 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]468197[/snapback]
OK gang, here goes ....... drum roll, fanfare etc etc etc.

The Jesse Ventura Tobacco Chewing Forum is pretty much good to go - and we hope to launch it tonight.

Point 1 : Here's the deal ...... the following has been lifted verbatum from the forum - these are the only rules - simple and effective ...... please read and take note. This will be pinned in the forum and used as a proxy for what's acceptable.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Ok listen up, if you want to be a goddamn sexual tyrannosaurus like Jesse Ventura then here's what goes and what doesn't:

- Keep it legal
- That's it.

Capice?

Disclaimer: The views expressed within this sub-forum are those of the author and the author only and do not represent the views of Greenock Morton Football Club Ltd, or indeed the management of this forum.
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Point 2 : We won't be password protecting the forum. There's obvious limitations to that, especially if people decide to post the password to everybody - the intent of this forum is that it will be for people who are not averse to a bit more "in your face" banter, some swearies and more heated debate/s***e/arguments/pish * (delete as appropriate).

By its nature then it isn't suitable for everyone - so we will control membership through a user group. We already have a list of people who have either expressed an interest or are regular board members who fit the bill of being the right age/mentality etc. But it isn't exhaustive - so anyone who wants to play on the new board give us a shout and we'll work to get you added over the next day or two - obviously depending on the uptake this might take some time - so bear with us as we set it up. Tontastic and Edinton have been brilliant in helping us with this but their lives aren't so empty that they can be at their PC 24*7 attending to membership requests. (well Edinton's life is probably that empty but I was saving that for my first topic on the new board). Seriously, the two lads have gone above and beyond the call of duty so work with us as we get folk added.

Point 3 Some of you will be pre-approved when we go live tonight - basically you'll see and have access to the forum - this doesn't mean you HAVE to use it - if your on the list and DON'T want to be, let us know - we'll take you off. Please though, spare us the rock-throwing. If it doesn't work at least it won't have troubled you ! That's the intent. If anyone tries it, hates it and wants removed the option is there.

Point 4 Me and Cruisehound will be the two people given the huge responsibility (cough, cough) of being the Fun Patrol. We see this forum being the same as many we've had on this board, and other boards, over the years. What it helps avoid is the example we had where Trick and Upaclose were slagging each other and other people were complaining on their behalf ! By the way Trick, yo mama is so fat that ..... ach, I'll save it for later. Myself and the dug have no desire to be intervening in pishy arguments - so if ye cannae take it or don't like it - you don't need to play on it. BUT ....... use a bit of cop on - nae porn links, no kicking the arse out of it - there's things on this board that will still be unacceptable on the new one - but they'll be few and far between, and so obvious there shouldn't be any confusion. However, starting the way I intend to go on, Boozie has been barred for four days - harsh but fair, so GIRUY Raymie. That'll teach ye not be logged on when we go live.

Final Point Most importantly - if you do want to be part of the new board please leave a message on here stating that - myself and the hound will send a list to the two lads and hopefully get us up and running tonight. I'm going out tonight at about eight, so hopefully I can get a list to the lads before then, we'll activate the list we have already and when I get back in at half twelve there'll be s***e patter aplenty.

Thats is all ....... viva The Jesse Ventura Tobacco Chewing Forum, and all who sail in her.

TonInDublin (good cop)[/size]

MORTONJAG IS BANNED ALREADY


F*CKIN POUFFES THE LOT OF YESE-I WANT IN
mortonjag 2008-06-28 21:22:43
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 28 2008, 09:17 PM) [snapback]468424[/snapback]
MortonJag, your poll is not going well. At all sad.gif

EVERYTHING I DO DOES WELL-JUST WAIT TILL I GET YOU ON THIS NEW- FORUM

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mortonjag 2008-06-28 21:27:22
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 28 2008, 09:23 PM) [snapback]468438[/snapback]
lol, you are taking this far too serious, PT. Don't let it worry you.

This is like some sort of social experiment!!!

Anyone can start a poll if they want. The mod suggested it'd be a laugh to start one to decide whether to let in or blackball people. I did this. But I imagine the decision lies with the mod, the polls are jst a bit of fun I suppose, though do give an indication of what people feel?

Ps. There's no poll about you PT!. smile.gif

LINK

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mortonjag 2008-06-28 21:52:30
QUOTE(tontastic @ Jun 28 2008, 09:47 PM) [snapback]468472[/snapback]
Finished two cracking books, although both were difficult to get into ... Arthur & George (Julian Barnes) and Engleby (Sebastian Faulks) have got Exit Music (Ian Rankin) lined up and very much looking forward to Matter (Ian M Banks).



QUOTE(tontastic @ Jun 28 2008, 09:48 PM) [snapback]468475[/snapback]
Excellent book. Good ending.

Books are for POUFFES! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-28 21:55:31
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 28 2008, 09:25 PM) [snapback]468440[/snapback]
That's a karaoke song of mine, duet with a mate.

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I thought folk would just take the piss out of poor old jag again.

Lovely memories of shagging to that song back in the early seventies! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-28 22:10:21 This is the biggest con since Rae told us they deserved the chance etc.

C'mon guys let common sense prevail-everybody should be welcome-all the sad c*nts who can't hack it will drop off like flies. thumbup2.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-28 22:13:05
QUOTE(mortonboi @ Jun 28 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]468484[/snapback]
its either dunfermline or morton and it sayed in the paper mortons his prefered choice

Guess it's the pars then! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-28 22:15:25
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 28 2008, 10:09 PM) [snapback]468486[/snapback]
Depends who you are talking about. I would prob buy you a pint if I met you anyway biggrin.gif
GIRUY laugh.gif

My arse is at your pleasure darling.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 22:23:36 JEEZUZ


This is worse than 'What are you listening to'.

If ever there was an example of 'keeping up with the Joneses' this is it-AND have you noticed that nobody EVER comments on the last poster's opinion? dry.gif


GET A F*CKIN' LIFE


It's out there-live-look-integrate-contribute-exhuberate-BOOKS ARE FOR POUFFES AND ESCAPISTS.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 22:39:19
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 28 2008, 10:33 PM) [snapback]468497[/snapback]
I agree. Maybe it's time to grow up and leave this s***e behind.

Indeed Mr Edwards- I'm thinking we should have a sub forum for those 'of that certain age'!

We could opine on important matters like the cost of catheter bags, best buy mobility scooters, discussions about your last shag (if you can remember), and little boy Moderators.

What do you think?
mortonjag 2008-06-28 22:42:19
QUOTE(MasterTon @ Jun 28 2008, 10:32 PM) [snapback]468496[/snapback]
I don't think Newton is interested in shares somehow laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

REALLY!

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mortonjag 2008-06-28 22:50:11
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jun 28 2008, 10:45 PM) [snapback]468502[/snapback]
Right, I want in. I'm pished and up for a good bit of flake shute chat and general boyish banter, so where's my password ya bunch of c**k munching wankers? I'm mightlily pissed at not gettng my invite straight away, so get it sorted, quick.

SNAP!
mortonjag 2008-06-28 22:59:11
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 28 2008, 10:52 PM) [snapback]468508[/snapback]
Hey, I'm a pouffe.

The Mods are pouffes, TiD's a pouffe, boozehound's a pouffe-in fact everybody's a pouffe except PrincessTON.

I think I will just give up on incompetent Moddery.


POUFFES
mortonjag 2008-06-28 23:02:12
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 28 2008, 10:59 PM) [snapback]468515[/snapback]
Nearly half a day later and sad boy has not torn my reply to shreds>

He never did in any other thread though. blink.gif

POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-06-28 23:04:16
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 28 2008, 10:57 PM) [snapback]468513[/snapback]
He made the nats' mistake.
The tories under Dave are to the left of the Essen Pee. laugh.gif

POUFFE[center][/center]
mortonjag 2008-06-28 23:06:21
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jun 28 2008, 10:56 PM) [snapback]468512[/snapback]
These bum boys are a bit slow at getting the password out. Must be too caught up in the sperm and sh1t frenzy of the first night!!!!

POUFFES
mortonjag 2008-06-28 23:09:57
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 28 2008, 11:01 PM) [snapback]468517[/snapback]
never heard of this guy, anyone got any links to the show? i haven't heard of any english guy winning our 'fan of the year' competition so far.

POUFFE
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mortonjag 2008-06-28 23:20:38
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 28 2008, 11:08 PM) [snapback]468524[/snapback]
That's hypertrophy blink.gif

Cheeky, cheeky boy-in fact TU ES LE POUFFE PAR EXCELLENCE
mortonjag 2008-06-28 23:23:48
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 28 2008, 11:13 PM) [snapback]468529[/snapback]
The Vic and the Cardwell both got taken over, the vic no longer pours its measures and you are allowed to finish your 1st pint in the Cardwell now without being asked to leave.

Fair Friday is next week. wink.gif

POUFFES RULE
mortonjag 2008-06-28 23:27:03
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jun 28 2008, 11:01 PM) [snapback]468516[/snapback]
And folk complain about the speed the official site gets updated. Bunch of fudge tunnelers


POUFFE
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 28 2008, 11:20 PM) [snapback]468531[/snapback]
Who decides on this list of folk who are entitled to enter the new forum ?


POUFFE
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jun 28 2008, 11:21 PM) [snapback]468534[/snapback]
You not one of them? Bloody disgrace. Thought you were one of the inner sactum?


POUFFE
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 28 2008, 11:22 PM) [snapback]468535[/snapback]
Naa, i'm a loner mate laugh.gif


POUFFE
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jun 28 2008, 11:23 PM) [snapback]468539[/snapback]
Seems I am too!! biggrin.gif

POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-06-28 23:31:08
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 28 2008, 11:27 PM) [snapback]468544[/snapback]
You're already in ya weapon.

TonInDublin

POUFFE POUFFE POUFFE POUFFE POUFFE POUFFE POUFFE POUFFE POUFFE POUFFE POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-06-28 23:35:10
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jun 28 2008, 11:29 PM) [snapback]468545[/snapback]
[b]POUFFE[/b

RIGHT YA POUFFE-YER BANNED FOR THREE DAYS
mortonjag 2008-06-28 23:38:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 28 2008, 11:34 PM) [snapback]468554[/snapback]
One of these days, who knows, democracy might eventually.

Mugabe's a


POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-06-29 09:13:08
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 29 2008, 12:13 AM) [snapback]468579[/snapback]
I have to agree somewhat with your sentiments Newt .

We know we have to upgade Cappielow before contemplating the SPL but I also feel we need to maximise the business potential of the club .

The SPL won't be the Eldorado of financial security some may think it is . If the business is poorly run will an increase in turnover not just overstretch an already pressurised structure .
Would tv money and extra gate money not also go hand in hand with increased wages a larger squad increased policing and stewarding . So the attendances quoted to enable the club to break even would also need to increase .



It's a possibility that the share issue was Alistair Donald's idea-part of his master plan to take control of the club when and if the situation is suitable. For the time being he appears to have 'shot the crow' leaving a skint Shoogly to 'stew in his own juice'

A huffy Shoogly explains much, if not all of the secrecy recently-information about AD has been harder to find than a full Bucky bottle in Feegie.

I see the share issue as a good thing. Crawford can get on with developing the Stadium while an ageing Shoogly huffs and puffs in an ever more difficult struggle to retain the 'Top Dog' status which has been the hallmark of his tenure as Chairman.

Folk ain't daft-the old bugger's relatively skint those days-maybe investments elsewhere haven't been performing as well as he'd hoped, and there's now a CCTV camera in the Golden Casket vaults!

I'm feeling positive about the bigger picture. I'm beginning to see us back where we belong in two or three years. Only God knows what the old Shooglemeister will be doing this time next year. Hopefully God has become a Ton supporter!
mortonjag 2008-06-29 09:48:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 29 2008, 09:34 AM) [snapback]468749[/snapback]
Hopefully God has become a Ton supporter!
Gidday mortonjag,

If God exists, surely he/she is too intelligent to be a Ton supporter.

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God sees the little sparrow fall,
It meets His tender view;
If God so loves the little birds,
I know He loves me, too.



He loves me, too, He loves me, too,
I know He loves me, too;
Because He loves the little things,
I know He loves me, too.

He paints the lily of the field,
Perfumes each lily bell;
If He so loves the little flow’rs,
I know He loves me well.


God made the little birds and flow’rs,
And all things large and small;
He’ll not forget his little ones,
I know He loves them all.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 09:55:44
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 29 2008, 12:47 AM) [snapback]468605[/snapback]
Hmmm, Lettuce see....

Shockerooney, i actually agree with you here. ohmy.gif laugh.gif

I thought you were going to go off on one of your rants about how parents should bring thier children up to be tolerant and respectful, whilst at the same time calling a 12th July marchers all the orange b*****ds under the sun.

Again.

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Mr Bam is not one for stating the obvious.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 10:01:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 28 2008, 11:30 PM) [snapback]468548[/snapback]
I think you're mad.

And I think you're a
POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-06-29 10:04:56
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jun 28 2008, 11:56 PM) [snapback]468573[/snapback]
right, you dont like books. why dont you f*** off out of the thread then and stop ruining things for everyc***.

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Because, my old friend---simply BECAUSE! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-29 10:10:30
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Jun 29 2008, 01:57 AM) [snapback]468655[/snapback]
If the huns thought he was half-decent, they wouldn't want him going out on loan to us again.
You can say what you like about them wanting him getting regular games, gaining experience, retaining match fitness etc etc etc... they clearly think he's shiite and (much as it pains me to admit it) i think they're right.

Plus the fact he's a ginger headed dwarf.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 11:03:20
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jun 29 2008, 09:24 AM) [snapback]468748[/snapback]
I think you made a major boo boo here. It most definately looks like a private members club. You should have let anyone in who wanted to, not just the chosen few. We are all big enough and ugly enough to know that if we don't like it, don't go. A bit demoralising for us "normal" regular posters watching the "chosen few" posting away. Definately smacks of a clique. If you are not a personal friend of the chosen few, you don't get in.

I see it quite differently. They are absolutely DESPERATE to get the Jag on, but Tontastic and Edinton can't bear to part with my scintillating wit on this forum! smartass.gif thumbup2.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-29 11:34:45
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 28 2008, 11:41 PM) [snapback]468562[/snapback]
You haven't been to Newton Mearns then?




Don't be daft Mr Edwards-everybody knows that the Mearns is full of enlightened people-Mr Bam, for example is regularly lit up.

Barsdenne and Millen Gavvy on the other hand! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-29 11:38:58
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 29 2008, 11:34 AM) [snapback]468775[/snapback]
Earl Grey, spot of milk no sugar. Thanks smile.gif

Lapsang Souchong for me please-not too strong and served with a sliver of cold black pudding.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 12:01:18
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 29 2008, 11:50 AM) [snapback]468783[/snapback]
Just read Wendy's resignation speech in full, and the poor woman is obviously deluded and still in denial.

Nowhere in it does she take any responsibility for the situation, but instead lays the blame on the nationalists, the standards commission and the parliamentary officials for giving her incorrect advice.

All of these arguments are disingenuous to say the least.

While she did get incorrect advice from official about the need to declare donations to her leadership campaign fund, she only sought this advice in the first place after the 30 day limit for declaration had passed. So the fact the advice she subsequently received was incorrect is totally irrelevant. That defence would only have been valid if the advice had been sought within the 30 day limit and the rules were inadvertently broken as a result of following it.

Then she blames the Nationalists for pursuing the issue and referring it to the standards commission. Well, that's very a very strange defence given that they themselves created the rules that she broke in the first place. And she completely ignored the fact that when the whole story first broke in the Sunday Herald 6 months ago they must have got the information contained within it from a mole within the Labour Party itself who obviously held a grudge against Wendy.

If she had put up her hand and admitted she c***ed up and that she had been subsequently stabbed in the back by one or more in her own party, she could have left with a least a shred of dignity intact. But to reject any notion of wrongdoing and blame every man and their dug for the situation just confirmed what had been becoming increasingly obvious - she's a political lightweight and quite simply not up to the job.

From a purely partisan point of view I'm disappointed to see her go - FMQs were one of the comedy highlights of the week - but for the good of Scottish politics and the credibility of the parliament itself it's best that she's gone.

Sometimes-just sometimes mind-you betray a touch of generosity. nerd.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-29 12:34:41
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 29 2008, 06:23 AM) [snapback]468732[/snapback]
Aye that's true, but nevertheless you have to hold him at least partly accountable ie if conceding 4 goals against Arbroath doesn't tell you to sign defenders then WTF does? blink.gif
I'm by no means saying he was the main problem, but he was part of a shambles, and is responsible for part of this.
Rae gave McCormack the curteousy of another crack at the whip (which could well be argued he deserved, although I would have got rid after the rout at Hamilton): even then he still didn't manage to sort the glaring deficiencies in the side.
I'm not excusing the playing staff whatsoever here, but surely a strong character would have sorted Williams, Maisano etc into valuable team players instead of mercenaries?
End of the day, i doubt we'll ever know to what extent the balem ought to really lie, and to what extent the allegations of the time were incorrect or valid.
Forgive me though for holding Cowboy at least partly accountable for a miserable calendar year as a Morton fan.
2004: anus horribilis indeed. sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif



Cowboy had us miles ahead of the pack that season-the slump was due to factors outwith his control. Furthermore he had us playing exciting football-something we've never seen since on a regular basis.

I have to laugh at your 'courtesy of another crack at the whip' comment.

JM's performance in the playoffs was proof positive that he hadn't a clue. He should have gone then. If he'd been half as good a manager as he was at conning Shoogly (no small feat) he wouldn't be at Firs Park now.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 12:40:19
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 29 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]468794[/snapback]
He's 5'11" and strawberry blond I'll have you know. wink.giftongue.gif

You obviously don't know a strawberry from a kumquat-a little fruity orange thing which rolls about all over the place and collapses under the slightest pressure.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 12:46:59
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 29 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]468790[/snapback]
I don't think she'd necessarilly be the most able politician in the land, but she'd certainly capture the media attention. I think it's fair to say that the SNP members at Westminster aint the most charismatic, able as they are, so probably this would balance things out.

Also a woman is a necessity as they are currently a female free group.

Not for all of us darling, but keep up the pretence.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 12:50:17
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 29 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]468786[/snapback]
Toast?

Deux croissants au beurre s'il vous plait.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 12:52:22
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jun 28 2008, 08:46 PM) [snapback]468399[/snapback]
How can someone write an autobiography of someone else? unsure.gif

The nearest was 'Oor Willy' by Siamese twins.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 13:12:50
QUOTE(Youngsa @ Jun 29 2008, 01:09 PM) [snapback]468819[/snapback]
They put McGregor out on loan twice and he's proved to be really s***e rolleyes.gif

Indeed-there's no real logic in the argument about OF loans.

Lee has potential. We need a stable experienced goalie.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 13:16:29
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 29 2008, 12:59 PM) [snapback]468816[/snapback]
I can hear your left ventricle flap as I curl the butter MJ rolleyes.gif

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....et quatre pour mon ami M. Rae.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 13:21:49 I've just realised that the book I've read and re-read most in my whole life is the Holy Bible (King James version).

I'd recommend it to everybody. Although much of it seems complete nonsense, it's the interpretation which matters.

The 23rd Psalm is a beautiful piece of prose.


The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want.

He maketh me to lie down in green pastures:
he leadeth me beside the still waters.

He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the
paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the
shadow of death; I will fear no evil: for thou
art with me; thy rod and thy staff they
comfort me.

Thou preparest a table before me in the
presence of mine enemies: thou anointest
my head with oil; my cup runneth over.

Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all
the days of my life; and I will dwell in the
house of the Lord for ever.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 13:27:56
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 29 2008, 01:16 PM) [snapback]468824[/snapback]
You see that can't entirely be the case - what manager would take the flak for a team clearly on the dodgy side defensive wise?
Even considering the Williams/Maisano influence, he was still supported financially by Rae and certainly must have had the resources to shore up the leaky backline in January.
If the cause was administration or similar I'd agree he'd be blameless, but that wasn't the case at all.
I think a certain someone is whitewashing the sitaution here and it sure to hell isn't me... sleep.gif

That's the flaw in your argument.

I'm whitewashing nothing-we'd have been promoted if others hadn't made a fool of themselves. I'm not saying Cowboy was Mourinho-he only was when compared to JM.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 13:44:21
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 28 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]468416[/snapback]
She has indeed.

They come a very close third to her tits and fanny.

Always aspiring to those great heights Honey-I love your spunk.

QUOTE(forza ton @ Jun 29 2008, 01:42 AM) [snapback]468643[/snapback]
get him to f*** mad.gif his patter is absolutely dire and i'd like to see him spit the dummy out on the main board cos he's not allowed in biggrin.gif

Too late my friend-common sense has not prevailed.

QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 29 2008, 03:23 AM) [snapback]468701[/snapback]
Fair play. Maybe should be let in but let him in the very LAST out of everyone who asked on the other thread smile.gif

It will be so amusing seeing him whine, and not being the centre of attention. It will crush him!

Mirror, mirror on the wall! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 29 2008, 01:38 PM) [snapback]468832[/snapback]
he's in...

...and it cost a f*ckin' fortune ya creep.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 13:47:43 Port -ton is the only person I've ever known who can suck my knob while reading Shoogly's programme notes.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 13:51:03 Banning my little Deeglet would be a greater sin than all those committed by the Chief Jobby -Tontastic! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-29 14:01:04
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 29 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]468829[/snapback]
vous êtes monsieur terrible! plus de thé ?rolleyes.gif

Oui Madame, mais sans sucre, s'il vous plait, et plus des croissants pour mon ami.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 14:04:39
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 29 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]468830[/snapback]
He did use the S word DE. Mibbies not about me though. rolleyes.gif
God I'd rather be an old school socialist than Nu Lab though. mad.gif
Elaine C would give the wrong publicity, She makes Cathy Jamieson seem intelligent, makes Roseanna Cunningham sound pensive and makes Auntie Annabel look like Sarkozy's missus.
I think she knows that too.

She COULD give Bawheid's string vest an overdue wash.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 14:06:31
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jun 29 2008, 01:48 PM) [snapback]468838[/snapback]
Sounds kinda gay.

You just have to take it whichever way gives you most pleasure.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 14:11:14
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 29 2008, 01:49 PM) [snapback]468839[/snapback]
That's like comparing a mule to an ass.

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To which comparison were you referring?
mortonjag 2008-06-29 14:24:34

Bust 'G-strings' are common. In my experience the victims have always been inexperienced young boys.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 14:40:48 Blood is extremely nutritious. If God hadn't meant us to enjoy nature's wondrous provisions, women would not bleed. I can totally understand the calf licks' objections to the pill.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 14:43:43
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 29 2008, 02:41 PM) [snapback]468876[/snapback]
Seriously, it's jst the age factor here, MJ. I don't think it'd be beneficial. What would be the difference to general forum,if we can't be as risque?

Midtons arguments on Deego having been there, done it, how can he be shocked etc is nonsense - he's equating Deego as representing every under 18 year old, lol!!!

I DO agree with that. I'd limit it to the over forties and keep out the weans.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 14:50:02 Dear Aunt Agony,


My wife has threatened to leave me since she discovered me shagging the hamster. Do you think she needs treatment?
mortonjag 2008-06-29 14:56:09
QUOTE(enigmaton @ Jun 29 2008, 02:53 PM) [snapback]468884[/snapback]
Your wife or the hamster?

Hammy is a boy.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 15:39:41
QUOTE(TBI1978 @ Jun 29 2008, 02:57 PM) [snapback]468886[/snapback]
Hi MortonJag,

I think she will not need treatment if you sellotape her up first so she doesn't burst.

Yours in Agony,

TBI.

She's not very stuck on the idea, but she's agreed to let me pack her fud with Branston Original. I've been using the chunky stuff 'cos it was on offer in Kwik Save.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 15:50:37
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jun 29 2008, 03:41 PM) [snapback]468907[/snapback]
You still have a Kwik Save?? unsure.gif

Indeed-they are now few and far between-we also have an Aldi and Lidl.

Lidl's own sweet pickle had a nice smell which she liked but it tended to trickle down her legs at the ballet class.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 16:40:24
QUOTE(enigmaton @ Jun 29 2008, 04:10 PM) [snapback]468919[/snapback]
The wife or the..........................

Please tell me the hamster rolleyes.gif

Have you ever seen a hamster in a tutu?
mortonjag 2008-06-29 16:47:19 I'd have kept Midge ahead of Kev any day-he was just another who never knew if he was coming or going with JM-AND was treated badly when he made his feelings known. Given our beefed up midfield he could have done a great job for us playing wide right.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 16:53:48
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jun 29 2008, 02:28 PM) [snapback]468865[/snapback]
how you all have time to read books after trawling through mortonjokes 21000 posts is beyond me, currently propping up the lavvy paper in my bog is
aidrian mole and the weapons of mass destruction - sue townsend
the timewasters letters - robin cooper
friday at the nobody inn - mark hayhurst
an old nuts mag, a 4 day old daily star and a flyer for a coffee morning.

You'd be better off reading the lavvy paper.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 16:57:50
QUOTE(enigmaton @ Jun 29 2008, 04:54 PM) [snapback]468942[/snapback]
Just hope you don't have have a banjo string snapping incident!
Blood, Branston Pickle, Tuto and hamster!!!
Doesn't bare thinking about blink.gif



No chance of that-when I was sixteen my mate circumcised me with a broken screwtap.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 16:59:31
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 29 2008, 04:40 PM) [snapback]468931[/snapback]
I voted to let him in.

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You've been forgetting the pills.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 17:05:03
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 29 2008, 03:10 AM) [snapback]468687[/snapback]
as far as I know, Scott Gillan isn't a friend of anyone on here, Midtons?

anyway, I like reading about the life of an international jetsetting playboy who opens five nightclubs a week and does drugs with Pete Tong and Paul Oakenfold while booking Madonna and Beyonce Knowles for his pub.

NO to Deego, IMO. He is under 18, he's outta there.

Think you better let PrincessTon in before her head starts revolving and she pokes herself with a crucifix while projectile vomiting - she's a tad upset she's not on "The List".

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mortonjag 2008-06-29 17:18:27


QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 29 2008, 03:26 AM) [snapback]468704[/snapback]
If you let them in it'll basically be just like the rest of the board?

Part of the problem with MortonJag is he seems to have some influence over these youngsters, who in turn encourage him even further.

And by the way, if Jag is allowed in, can we at least ban Douglas Rae rants from this bit?!?! I am coming round to the fact that in a non-Morton environment, MJ could be good fun.

Mortonjag is endowed with a rare capacity to relate to all ages and both sexes. Some might describe him as a bi-sexual paedophile but that would demean his penchant for humping grilled jellyfish.

QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 29 2008, 01:42 PM) [snapback]468833[/snapback]
i'm not against having any dirty links, and keeping it over 18s only. maybes keep it to links only? and if you're posting pictures then nae f*nn**s. or c***s. no c***s please.

mortonjag 2008-06-29 17:43:53
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 29 2008, 03:07 PM) [snapback]468893[/snapback]
De nouveau, vous êtes incorrigable rolleyes.gif

C'est vraie! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-29 17:46:39
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 29 2008, 03:53 PM) [snapback]468913[/snapback]
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Not me, though I'll bet that new forum you've joined is full of them.

True Mr Edwards-just a shower of weans getting their rocks off talking about sex and being somewhat rude in the process.

I'm thoroughly enjoying it.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 17:51:26
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 29 2008, 03:00 PM) [snapback]468887[/snapback]
Like I said, she may not be the most able politician. but the people you mention are leaders / deputy leaders etc. Just in terms of an ordinary MP I think she'd match up pretty well with most MP's in Westminster.

Although, perhaps looks like a non-starter.

Indeed Piehole-they are all class C actors.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 17:53:52
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 29 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]468921[/snapback]
Piehutt wouldn't recognise a socialist even if one waving a red flag and wearing a Che Guevara bunnet came up and f*cked him up the arse.

Very true-though he might smile.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 18:39:02 Let's start with men and their penises. In all my years I've yet to come across a guy who didn't seem a bit shy when I asked him to pull out his tadger. I've never ever made that request unless it was entirely relevant.

Women seemed much more relaxed about breast examinations, and other stuff.

What is it with men and their knobs? huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-29 18:51:44
QUOTE(enigmaton @ Jun 29 2008, 06:46 PM) [snapback]468989[/snapback]
Think its more about the man they are showing it to rolleyes.gif

I'm a bloody doctor! blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-29 18:55:22
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 29 2008, 06:25 PM) [snapback]468971[/snapback]
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I though it was Professor Dong up the fud with a large cast iron crucifix
mortonjag 2008-06-29 19:00:53 So what's all the fuss about porn-all I could see was a young couple making love. She looked a little on the plump side and her fanny needed a proper wash by the look of it, but that was about it.

Well that and the fascinating way his bum cheeks moved from side to side in rhythm with the pumping-I must confess I rather felt like jumping on.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 19:17:10
QUOTE(enigmaton @ Jun 29 2008, 06:56 PM) [snapback]469003[/snapback]
A bloody doctor!
That sounds quite sinister rolleyes.gif
Also a hamster/jellyfish humping branston pickleite!
I'd be scared huh.gif

My patients knew nothing about my hobbies-well all except the one who walked in on me without knocking.

She's dead.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 19:20:32
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 29 2008, 07:05 PM) [snapback]469019[/snapback]
Quality, Branston flavoured flange. Mmmm....

...no better accompaniment for cheese. It's known as a ploughman's hump.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 19:25:14
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 29 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]469015[/snapback]
Hey man, I've got five kids to feed.

Ignore the whining brats-just shag them and be done with it.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 06:40:44
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 29 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]468981[/snapback]
Precisely , but this guy isin't going to be passing on pearls of business wisdom without it being of some advantage to AD .
Being a Director of GMFC in an advisory capacity is hardly going to raise his profile in the city .

So hence the general inquiry to his intentions .

Exactly-which brings us full circle to the original question about Alistair Donald.

Crawford Rae states unequivocally that he' a 'Director'. He claims Mr Donald is 'out of the country' but omitted to mention when he'll be back.

I'm inclined to believe that Crawford accepts this situation as reality, but how does the mysterious Mr Donald see it.


More importantly, what's Shoogly's take on the matter? I've never known the old sugar boiler to be so silent. No complaints about the 'negativity boys' or 'bullying into signing players', and no 'Are you up for it's-is something going on.

Who knows-he may secretly be suspecting some sinister plot to oust him from his position as 'Lord and Saviour'. Maybe the old Shooglemeister has finally found his match.

Or could it just be that he's frightened AD off for ever and Crawford can't believe reality when it's staring him in the face?
mortonjag 2008-06-30 07:18:09
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 30 2008, 03:50 AM) [snapback]469231[/snapback]
add me please...

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ARE WE UP FOR IT?



You don't have much shame Dave eh? I doubt we'll be discussing Shoogly's lack of pennies with the Jesse boys. It's all about fuds, pouffes, and generally disgusting material.
Come to think of it........... shutup.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-30 07:33:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 30 2008, 07:07 AM) [snapback]469239[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

In business, as in life, if something sounds too good to be true, it usually is.

Alistair Donald - Cappielow's equivalent of the Nigerian lottery scams ??

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I am not doubting Crawford's reply - I just cannot see Donald wanting to be a MINORITY shareholder.

Unless it is going to give him the right of first refusal down the track.

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Crawford looks a bit like Piggy in the middle. If Donald wants Morton, he'll get the Club unless Shoogly outlives him-that would surprise me none-I reckon the old duffer's good for another eighty years.

IF, however, Donald wants the club NOW, it's as certain as night follows day that Mr Rae will have set the price at an insultingly high level. He has a habit of seeing the Club as much more valuable and successful that it is, except when he's begging with folk to pay money they don't owe him. wink.gif


My personal take is that AD has simply backed off. He didn't achieve his success by pandering to deluded old small time businessmen.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 07:54:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 30 2008, 07:09 AM) [snapback]469240[/snapback]
Perhaps God supports all clubs in the Scottish Football League.

And I heard this afternoon that God is not a German.

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You appear to have heard correctly. The Monkey and Fing are over the moon. They'll be straight down to Mr Hill's wee shop in their Sombreros in a couple of hours!



OLE
mortonjag 2008-06-30 08:00:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 30 2008, 12:31 AM) [snapback]469195[/snapback]
only 29,153 views

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I thought it was good for 30,000.

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Who would know Newt-we've had some rather odd contributions in addition to the usual petty infighting.

I'm fascinated by the mysterious CJ Ton.

He is the guy who came on telling Mortonjag 'he knew all along it was just a paperwork issue' He also appears to know more about the Raes and Alistair Donald than they could POSSIBLY know about themselves, despite 'having no formal connection with the club'.


I have this feeling that he may be one of Mystic Meg's SONS. He clearly thinks he has crystal balls.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 08:06:51
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 30 2008, 08:01 AM) [snapback]469252[/snapback]
blink.gif blink.gif

Does Mr Hill sell plane tickets to Mexico ?

I hope you are not attempting to mock my children's perceptions of SPANE-FFS-they think Australians all wear bush hats and shag crocodiles.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 08:21:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 30 2008, 08:06 AM) [snapback]469254[/snapback]
This is the guy who came on telling Mortonjag 'he knew all along it was just a paperwork issue' He also appears to know more about the Raes and Alistair Donald than they could POSSIBLY know about themselves, despite 'having no formal connection with the club'.
Come on mortonjag, even I know he is.

He and I have emailed each other from time to time.

Lives in the west end, happily married with 4 or 5 children.

He is for an independent Scotland and as you say he has no formal connection with the club.

Can you not read between the lines ?

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Well I don't, and I object to anonymous cognoscenti coming on at the very end of a lengthy thread to berate me about negativity AFTER Crawford Rae e-mailed me.

Anyway, if you read your 'friend's previous posts-there ain't too many-you'll find that he's just another who appears to be right up Shoogly's arse-one of those who was full of praise for giving the boys 'the chance to take us forward'.

If indeed you are in e-mail contact I'm sure he'll let you know everything you need about Alistair Donald, including his Mobile details, 32 PIN numbers, and an up to date audit of his pubic hairs.


mortonjag 2008-06-30 08:32:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 30 2008, 08:27 AM) [snapback]469260[/snapback]
Anyway, if you read your 'friend's previous posts-there ain't too many-you'll find that he's just another who appears to be right up Shoogly's arse-one of those who was full of praise for giving the boys 'the chance to take us forward'.

QED

I would have to pull out the old notebook PC and try to find him.

He seemed to be a top fellow in his emails.



Lots of lovely folk make silly assumptions when they're too close to the trees to see the wood.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 08:36:38
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 30 2008, 08:17 AM) [snapback]469258[/snapback]
sombra ... shade or shadow ??

Regularing shagging crocs will guarantee you a Darwin award.

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Would you describe Mr Rae as sombre?
mortonjag 2008-06-30 08:43:45
QUOTE(Capuan @ Jun 30 2008, 12:08 AM) [snapback]469176[/snapback]
mortonjag is an anagram of major tong
discuss...



Indeed -it is also an anagram of


JOG MATRON



which takes me back to my early days in Glasgow Royal..but that story's for another day.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 08:49:16
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 30 2008, 08:06 AM) [snapback]469253[/snapback]
oi you, keep it for the other forum!

Shut it you, or I tell them about that wart on your clitoris.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 09:16:15
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 29 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]469059[/snapback]
Awright, ye got me, I googled for a photae o'the booger.Took the first wan.
Here it is:
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED un peu gay.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 09:21:42
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 29 2008, 11:53 PM) [snapback]469168[/snapback]
Dear Dr Jag,

How come corn doesn't turn to s*** and instead seems to reform and lumpy up an otherwise enjoyable stool?

Thanks.

I suggest you speak to a dietician.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 09:37:25 I was fifty five before I realised the Missionary Position is the name for the time honoured man shags woman act. Not that I was ever really interested in Missionaries.

Port-tons arse fits my hand like a glove. He has a petulant little prostate, from which, like a good red, emanates flavours of raspberry and elderflower. Uncorked and left to diffuse for an hour or so before humping, Port-ton's arse is a breath of fresh air. Highly recommended.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 10:35:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 30 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]469271[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I didnae see many trees there in 2006.

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You must have been concentrating on the wood, Newt-that's the correct perspective.

CJ Ton obviously believes he knows enough about the current situation to entitle him to tell Mortonjag to be POSITIVE.

Surely he must be in on the open secret that AD will buy over the Ton as soon as Shoogly lets him.


OR is he just another sad sycophantic Shooglyphile.

If he KNEW that AD was 'out of the country' and KNEW that was why the forms hadn't been signed despite him having been spotted 'in the country' SEVERAL times since the announcement of his directorship, why didn't he just say so?

Maybe he doesn't really KNOW as much as he claims.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 10:42:20 EVEN THE DOGS IN THE STREET know the real reason for Bendy's resignation.

Who says so?

BAWHEID.

Well, take one look at auld Moira and everything is explained.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 10:46:33
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 30 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]469301[/snapback]
Maybe he doesn't really KNOW as much as he claims.
Gidday mortonjag,

he knows enough to write a book.

blink.gif blink.gif


So did The Apostle Paul, and I know enough to write books till I shake off this mortal coil.

Was it a Fairy story?
mortonjag 2008-06-30 10:56:10
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jun 29 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]469115[/snapback]
He has a lifestyle to aspire to. But he's not a gaylord!. Ask his dad. It's wrong to question the sexuality of those in the entertainment industry.

Considah dat a divorce.

Which one?
mortonjag 2008-06-30 11:03:55
QUOTE(enigmaton @ Jun 29 2008, 07:41 PM) [snapback]469054[/snapback]
I can imagine the scene...............

MRS JAG: "My husband what are you doing?"

MORTONJAG:"I'm just pleasuring myself by anally ramming Hammy who appears to have died with the shock of the impact!"

MRS JAG: "That's a real pickle you've got yourself into!"

More of a Hamsterjam, and thinking of the Dutch reminded me of that mouse that lived in the windmill. I've never f*cked a mouse. Well never when I've been sober.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 11:18:40
QUOTE(dazed @ Jun 30 2008, 11:06 AM) [snapback]469313[/snapback]
How dare you insult the great ones missus, likening her to some hound! wink.gif

WOOD EYE!

Naw I'm convinced Auld Moira's a virgin-hence my comment!
mortonjag 2008-06-30 11:22:15
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 30 2008, 11:10 AM) [snapback]469315[/snapback]
There's another port ton username on here (port_ton I think) which is why people think you're a girl. By the way.

port-ton is MY girl-he is beautiful in every way.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 11:27:09
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jun 29 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]469025[/snapback]
He was our best player last year, he probably won't get a game for St. Johnstone.

I admire his ambition but i think it's lose lose to be honest.

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mortonjag 2008-06-30 13:12:51
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 29 2008, 11:13 PM) [snapback]469149[/snapback]
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I was told the lads are loving it .
DI / DC must be happy with the players fitness as he gave them the weekend to recover . I think the better fitness levels throughout the squad will benefit the players when they come to getting games under their belts .

From what I hear DI has plans to get Quarriers into a more apt training centre than the previous guy who was always lauded for his training techniques.



Notwithstanding our poor results over the last 10 weeks or so, Jim McInally has been good for our Club. I have watched his training methods, and his support for the sports sciences which I found impressive; for example, the team train with heart monitors on from which the management can monitor the players performances while ensuring that no player over exerts himself.

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mortonjag 2008-06-30 13:15:26
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jun 30 2008, 11:37 AM) [snapback]469327[/snapback]
erm, whit?

Unconscious humour?

Sarcasm?

Irony?

Sad fact?

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mortonjag 2008-06-30 13:34:01
QUOTE(enigmaton @ Jun 30 2008, 11:31 AM) [snapback]469325[/snapback]
Two lips from Hamsterjam?

Mouse's ear?





When it's spring again, I'll bring again
Two lips from Hamsterjam
For a quickie screw I'll give to you
Two lips from Hamsterjam
I can't wait until the day you fill
This eager erse of mine
Like the windmill keeps on turning
That's how my bum keeps on yearning
For the day I know you can
Bring these two lips from Hamsterjam


mortonjag 2008-06-30 13:51:02 Funnily enough, after Boozie's question about corn spoiling the taste of his own jobbies ( I was going to suggest he tried soft instead of hard pore corn), I was just about to start a thread about the nicest flavour of faeces.

I think I can say without fear of contradiction that cows keech takes a hell of a beating, though rabbits' droppings go nicely with a Waldorf salad.

Eating keech straight from the bum (as in Fungi's wee fotie), not only provides nutrition at its very freshest, but saves energy in re-heating.

Human faeces do not come highly recommended, though one man's keech may well become another's saucisson.

Whatever else-always read the label.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 13:58:21
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 29 2008, 11:15 PM) [snapback]469150[/snapback]
Aye Thursday would be interesting to see who were up at the top in terms of fitness or more interesting who was at the bottom .

Is training at Quarriers still a closed shop or can anybody watch now that they're not scared the pool table will be hi-jacked?
mortonjag 2008-06-30 14:02:39
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 29 2008, 07:27 PM) [snapback]469044[/snapback]
if only you had the same outlook when it comes to your bed.

My bed, as you very well know, is only one attraction in my boudoir. You were quite impressed by my rowing machine-n'est ce pas? thumbup2.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-30 14:09:19
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 29 2008, 03:15 AM) [snapback]468689[/snapback]
I would have said you were as bent as Port Ton's knob when it's jammed up MortonJag's crack, before I got together with TBI.
She introduced me to the wonders of red wine and I have to say I love it now. As said, Rioja is a fave of ours.

Yum.

I just hope she lets it warm to room temperature before gently and rhythmically pumping her erse with the bottle.


That's what port-ton and I do to each other for openers-after that it's no holds barred.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 14:16:41
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 30 2008, 01:59 PM) [snapback]469378[/snapback]
I wasn't talking about the taste of my jobbies ya maddie, I was referring to the fact that the corn chunks made the movement a little uncomfortable.

Watch it c*** or ah'll f***in' report you.

QUOTE(upaclose @ Jun 30 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]469381[/snapback]
And if anything a little corn added would make them more palatable. If it was a choice between pureed s***e and a chunky jobby garnished with corn I know which one I'd go for.



I really love that wee video-when the jobby comes oot her erse and they put it in the glass it looks EXACTLY the same as my favourite ice cream from that nice shop in St Andrews-in fact I'll be going up again soon-NOT that I'm suggesting jobby tastes anything like ice cream, but I guess you all know that. Ice cream is merely a confection.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 14:21:34 Jesse Ventura for this pish.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 14:27:41
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 30 2008, 02:23 PM) [snapback]469387[/snapback]
...what will he do about it? blush.gif

Just so that I can call you a POUFFE without you clyping.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 14:35:27
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jun 30 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]469366[/snapback]
whit?

Yer comment aboot Midge.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 14:41:57
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 30 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]469389[/snapback]
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FFS-we've now got a million 'smileys' and you pick the pouffest of the lot.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 14:43:45
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jun 30 2008, 02:40 PM) [snapback]469395[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDCould you not at least post a picture of a nice leather one ya ****.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 14:49:05
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jun 30 2008, 02:42 PM) [snapback]469400[/snapback]
get the sweary thing off...
P. Oof

16 - 6 for keeping him out! ! !
woaah lets keep him out and get him wound right up.

Am I permitted to suggest that perhaps sometimes he behaves more maturely than Scotty's Daddy-I've a funny feeling I'll be banned for even mentioning the G****** but there we go.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 15:06:31
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jun 30 2008, 03:01 PM) [snapback]469416[/snapback]
I'll have you know I'm relatively slim for my age you small sacked c***.

So what are you? A self loather or general moaner?

I have a MONSTROUS knob for mine.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 15:12:25
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Jun 30 2008, 02:50 PM) [snapback]469406[/snapback]
What are the rules with people leaving things in pubs, ie jackets, bags etc? Are the owners at liberty to throw such things in the bin? Do they become the owners of such articles if left behind by a patron? Do they have any sort obligation to hold onto them for a reasonable period of time to allow people to pick them up?

My problem is slightly different.
Played a gig last week, for some reason we left behind a box of cd's that we sell at our gigs at the venue. In the confusion of who took what from the van its gone until now to figure out that the box is missing and was left behind. The gig was only last tuesday, so still under a week ago.
Called the venue earlier today to be told the box of cd's has been chucked in the bin by the cleaners. If you play in a band you'll know how valuable they are to us. There was prob potentially about £300 of cd's (assuming we sold them all).

Do we have a leg to stand on?

PS - considered petrol bombing the place, but it's in london, and you get shot 7 times in the back for less down there...


It seems to me that it's a case of whether of not the cleaners' behaviour would be seen to reasonable if you chose to pursue them in a small claims court.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 15:15:58
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jun 30 2008, 03:10 PM) [snapback]469423[/snapback]
i picked one i thought you would like sad.gif

it was the poufiest one i could see, i thought u n port-ton could snuggle together on it

Are you calling us dwarf pouffes?
mortonjag 2008-06-30 15:21:19 I can't believe there are so many self opinionated arseholes!

Deego makes a decent contribution to the match day programme for starters-I think he's sometimes very witty, and when it comes to tickling Mortonjag's tummy, he's twice as good as port-ton.

LET THE BOY IN.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 15:34:53
QUOTE(twgp @ Jun 30 2008, 03:26 PM) [snapback]469441[/snapback]
Now we can find out how many pervsâ„¢ are on the board by merely checking the "viewed" column on this topic
you dirty b*****ds laugh.gif

Well let's get the 'perv' bit out of the road first-I'm the biggest paedo, poofter, mother f*ckin', sheep shaggin' perv on the board.

Now HERE'S why I viewed. I was just hoping it would be amusing.


It' NOT. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-30 15:35:29
QUOTE(twgp @ Jun 30 2008, 03:26 PM) [snapback]469441[/snapback]
Now we can find out how many pervsâ„¢ are on the board by merely checking the "viewed" column on this topic
you dirty b*****ds laugh.gif

Well let's get the 'perv' bit out of the road first-I'm the biggest paedo, poofter, mother f*ckin', sheep shaggin' perv on the board.

Now HERE'S why I viewed. I was just hoping it would be amusing.


It' NOT. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-30 15:39:23
QUOTE(twgp @ Jun 30 2008, 03:21 PM) [snapback]469438[/snapback]
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Somebody your age.

I'm just oot the jail.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 15:54:17
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jun 30 2008, 03:35 PM) [snapback]469451[/snapback]
doctors orders?

or your own sick fantasy!

Both-he told me he was eighteen anyway!
mortonjag 2008-06-30 15:57:04
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jun 30 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]469452[/snapback]
Now you have all had your first posts and had a chance to spout some filth, can we now start behaving like adults and cut out some of the needless swearwords?

EFFIN POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-06-30 15:59:11
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Jun 30 2008, 03:50 PM) [snapback]469458[/snapback]
You think your a **** mate? I drink Rose as my wine of choice, not sure where that puts me on the heterosexuality scale!



All wine is for POUFFES
mortonjag 2008-06-30 16:03:09
QUOTE(twgp @ Jun 30 2008, 03:18 PM) [snapback]469433[/snapback]
Golfer ^

Par 5 if a ever saw one.

Your opinion will be more valid when you're old enough to get a hard on.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 16:16:35
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 30 2008, 04:10 PM) [snapback]469469[/snapback]
For future reference the correct term is additional needs. rolleyes.gif Alternatively you could have just called them spastiks ph34r.gif




Would that be the same as the proper term?



mortonjag 2008-06-30 16:20:01
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 30 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]469470[/snapback]
No f***ing way, swearing is f***ing cool and you f***ing know it.

I'm gonna overlook this post, but anymore of it and you're heading for a ban.

Why is the singular of vaginas a sweary word.

Seems two f*nnies are better than one, but one fanny is better than two.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 16:24:19
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Jun 30 2008, 04:01 PM) [snapback]469463[/snapback]
Surely wine on a pouffe would leave a big stain?
Unless it was scotchguarded for easy wiping. (The good doctor has a computer chair like that)!

Mine is. My little Cairn Terrier's kennel is just outside my cellar.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 16:41:27 I've been called many a thing on the forums-none of which has really offended, but bugger me-nobody has ever discovered my true preference! angel.gif

I guess it started with my ex-wife. 'Needs must' they say, and I got to quite enjoy shagging a block of ice every six months, though I used those thick condoms favoured by pouffes just for a wee bit of insulation.

It's like any other addiction-you have a wee 'try' never thinking for a minute you'll get hooked, and before you know it, the Mortuary Attendants are upping the price every time. Soon I may well be forced to find my material in a different way-it's kinda scary I know, but aren't we all entitled to have our bare necessities met?

I'm going to come in for some criticism from folk who think they know better, but I can truthfully say I've never heard a word of complaint from any of my sexual partners.

I imagine there must be at least half a dozen necrophiliacs on the Board. Will they be brave enough to out themselves?

I assure you I'm in dead earnest.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 17:58:56
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jun 30 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]469479[/snapback]
OOOOOoooooh.

C'mon though WDE, if a bunch of men can't bond over their mutual appreciation of watching women on the internet eat their own s***e then all hope is truly lost.

Especially in those days of organic food-nothing beats a big chunk of braised knob spread thckly with fresh jobby.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 18:01:25
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Jun 30 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]469481[/snapback]
You have a computer in your cellar? is that where the bodies are?

Only seven of them.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 18:04:18
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 30 2008, 05:14 PM) [snapback]469501[/snapback]
Are you a grave throbber ph34r.gif

Oh NEVER Chris-that's disgusting-I can't stand worms.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 18:12:19
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jun 30 2008, 06:01 PM) [snapback]469515[/snapback]
Hearing stories like this makes me thank the lord that i am jewish!

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You could equally well be a moo slim.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 18:16:51
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jun 30 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]469480[/snapback]
I'm still trying to see the mileage in this one.

AD's status (taking Crawgford Rae's response at face value) has been clarified.

The appointment of a non-executive director is a common ocurrance in many areas of business. I surmise that he has been appointed to bring a different perspective to the board.

It may be in his mind that he would like to have a controlling interest in the future, or it may not. Frankly, we don't know, and I can't think why he would tell us.

The only remaining question I can see is this: are you flogging a dead horse here?

Quite possibly. I'll certainly feel more sure of things when AD is back 'in the country' and signs the forms he's had ample opportunity to sign before.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 19:07:29
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 30 2008, 07:04 PM) [snapback]469531[/snapback]
i trust you're not questioning the right of posters to indulge in idle and uninformed speculation? biggrin.gif

Busy informed speculation Alistair-get YOUR facts right!
mortonjag 2008-06-30 19:12:55
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jun 30 2008, 02:53 PM) [snapback]469412[/snapback]
ha, sorry Doc I still don't follow.

Are you saying OOPS "Rex just contradicted himself with that sentence"

or OOPS i agree, we let our best player leave, that was stupid.

My comment about Midge is without sarcasm, irony or wit... he was our best player, i dont think he'll play week in week out at St. Johnstone, I think both parties will regret the move.

I fail to see why I should have to spell out what I think is obvious.

You claimed Midge was our best player last season. I'm not arguing with that. You claim he won't get a regular game with the Real Saints. I have not argued with that either-time will tell.

All I was alluding to was the obvious fact that that is a VERY sad reflection of our current status in Scottish football.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 19:18:31
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jun 30 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]469530[/snapback]
Mr Jag....you can be a pleb sometimes....button it for a change and actually try and not post for 5 seconds

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mortonjag 2008-06-30 19:21:37
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jun 30 2008, 06:19 PM) [snapback]469524[/snapback]
in that case i would be thanking allah!

That was the point- A Jew would NEVER thank 'The Lord'. blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-01 07:29:54
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 1 2008, 12:36 AM) [snapback]469674[/snapback]
it can't be true then

Enough of your idle uninformed speculation Alistair! ph34r.gif


Like CJ Ton, you're just another poster who has a wee bit more information from the home town than the common 5/8ths, and takes pleasure in thinking he knows FAR more than he does..

Accusing others of 'speculation' on the basis of your limited inside knowledge makes you appear childish-either that or you are just an inveterate 'stirrer'.

In either case, what's WRONG with speculation? It's the substance of a large percentage of this boards content, and it's the starting point for the unravelling of most mysteries.


mortonjag 2008-07-01 07:41:12
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 1 2008, 05:58 AM) [snapback]469695[/snapback]
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different environment

different hierarchy



hi·er·ar·chy
1. any system of persons or things ranked one above another.
2. government by ecclesiastical rulers.
3. the power or dominion of a hierarch.

au·toc·ra·cy
1. government in which one person has uncontrolled or unlimited authority over others; the government or power of an absolute monarch.
2. a nation, state, or community ruled by an autocrat.
3. unlimited authority, power, or influence of one person in any group
mortonjag 2008-07-01 07:47:56
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 1 2008, 02:20 AM) [snapback]469684[/snapback]
Gidday Flight Ton,

frequency of posting creates a pleb ??

discuss

But don't tell Julius.

Was that REALLY Flight?

Could be wrong but it seemed more like the comment you'd get from some wean with access to his computer. huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-01 07:53:53
QUOTE(enigmaton @ Jul 1 2008, 01:07 AM) [snapback]469679[/snapback]
Just make sure they are dead.
It's "murder" having to kill them again and then f'uck them.
You can never get the fact they were still alive out your head.



I guess it must be a bit of a conscience jerker.

Mine are always dead. Before I remove my clothes, I smash their heads to pulp with my club hammer just to make sure.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 08:04:36
QUOTE(dmc @ Jul 1 2008, 12:24 AM) [snapback]469671[/snapback]
Erotic as f*** by the way!! blush.gif
They canny half eat s***e!! wub.gif


All the eating of the crap etc., does very little for me, but that bit with the close up of the jobby coming out her arse is a physiological gem.

I used to spend hours watching cows crapping in fields, but this is second to none.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 08:09:22 Dear Aunt Agony,

Is this habit of shagging the wee cardboard insert of a lavvy roll quite common?
mortonjag 2008-07-01 14:09:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 1 2008, 07:39 AM) [snapback]469700[/snapback]
In either case, what's WRONG with speculation?

Simply that speculation should be totally unnecessary.

A simple statement of TWO sentences from Cappielow would be enough to clarify:

AD's shareholding (if any)

GC's subscription to the current share issue



Then we could speculate on the wisdom of money being spent on Cappielow rather than the quality of the squad.

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QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 1 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]469719[/snapback]
mortonjag takes another stab in the dark


i'm simply going on what's in the public domain
yes, but it's a question of style tongue.gif



Bang on the money Alistair-'the Club' would prefer us to speculate while sitting doing a keech-Beano in hands- and 'DOH' ing to our hearts content. rip.gif shutup.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-01 14:47:18 Why is the Stadium about to be upgraded to SPL standard when Rae's skint?

This time last year the fans had the wool pulled over their eyes with 'giving those boys a chance to take us forward'.

But for the grace of God, JM might have been persuaded to stay (AS SHOOGLY WANTED) and we'd be back in division 2 with the fans to blame!
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This time he's pinning his hopes (of WHAT, I'm not quite sure) on the DI/DC combination.

Those guys pulled the rabbit out of the hat for him against the odds. That's really all we have to go on-yet Shoogly seems to imagine they can challenge for the SPL with a Port Juniors quality squad.

Or wait-is this to be more 'CONSOLIDATION' ph34r.gif dry.gif dry.gif

Alistair Donald's waiting in the wings, while Crawford gets the new stadium ready for them. It would appear that they are both waiting to pounce!

Am I REALLY worried about the lack of signings? NOPE folks. Golden Casket's blown its gasket. Nothing will improve without inward investment.

If Rae thinks he's going to pull in more through the gates next season he can forget it. We're in for more dreary football and more 'grinding out of results'. He's been content to give us second best for several seasons and blame all around. Nothing has changed. thumbdown.gif




mortonjag 2008-07-01 15:15:03
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jul 1 2008, 02:17 PM) [snapback]469858[/snapback]
I see a couple of Nips have made it to women's quarterfinal day at Wimbledon.

Venus is doing not too badly either ph34r.gif

Venus has a nice pair of nips, or is that Serena?
mortonjag 2008-07-01 15:17:34
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 1 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]469743[/snapback]
f*** me, you've got issues Doc.

Do you REALLY want TiD left to do all the work?
mortonjag 2008-07-01 15:20:12
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jul 1 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]469741[/snapback]
What makes you think I've never liked you?

Maybe something to do with that time he came in when you were having your jobby supper.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 15:24:43
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 1 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]469739[/snapback]
A guy I know apparently ended up with baked bean skin hanging from his sabre after venturing up the back entrance.

I use an empty baked bean tin as a condom-it's a tight fit, but a million poofters every day aren't disappointed.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 15:33:11
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 1 2008, 10:30 AM) [snapback]469755[/snapback]
Thank you. Nearly winning promotion, have a couple of games to go. Tontastics wife beat me a couple of weeks ago, you would think that would be enough to get me in with the other Jessies on here. sad.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-01 15:38:24 Murray is the spoilt brat par excellence-even McEnroe despises him.

His mother is a total embarrassment as she sits watching her foisted ambition behave like a frustrated three year old.

Biggest emetic of all-they're now well and truly INGLISH.

Tennis is for pouffes and girls. Murray's a big Jessie.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 16:00:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 1 2008, 08:00 AM) [snapback]469705[/snapback]
Do Inverclyde weans frequently discuss the role of the plebs in society ??

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I don't know much about Inverclyde weans Newt-except from meeting them on this pubic massage board. Very few of them are over fifty.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 16:26:22 Looks like Scotty called it right. Folk who spy on others' bebos and then post information not intended for them in the first place- ARE MORONS, IMHO.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 16:32:14
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 1 2008, 04:27 PM) [snapback]469934[/snapback]
Federer and one of the Williams brothers, not sure which one yet.

They're pouffes too.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 16:41:44
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jul 1 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]469940[/snapback]
St Johnstone to win it

Airdrie to finish bottom, Livi for the playoffs

7th place

I agreed with you , but I put us 5th.

You won't know I agreed with you 'cos I'm on ignore as 'I ALWAYS talk sh*te'.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 16:45:51
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 1 2008, 04:32 PM) [snapback]469938[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-07-01 17:09:19
QUOTE(Rossco @ Jul 1 2008, 05:04 PM) [snapback]469946[/snapback]
Does he want us to kiss his arse even though he isn't playing well ?
Thank God he is gone thats all I can say.

Fing finks your avatar's bloody brilliant!

When are Kermit's tadpoles due, the Monkey's asking?
mortonjag 2008-07-01 18:04:56
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 1 2008, 05:54 PM) [snapback]469975[/snapback]
You can say that again, every f***ing year.

Thank f*** i didnt buy a season ticket or top this year.

And for folk above who say things are ok must be let out of Rae's nuthouse

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mortonjag 2008-07-01 18:10:52
QUOTE(Rossco @ Jul 1 2008, 05:47 PM) [snapback]469966[/snapback]
Alacaplunct Tuesday which is on a Friday this year.

I thought it was a Thursday, but Fing just reminded me it's a Leap year.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 18:15:28
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jul 1 2008, 05:53 PM) [snapback]469974[/snapback]
I think i've worked it out, you're just plain weird. laugh.gif

Look here sonny boy-you don't get to my age without having tried everything every way. I DID try the conventional HP tomato sauce squeezy bottle with the neck cut to fit, but I developed warts on my knob.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 18:18:01 f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing general nonsense for this pish.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 18:22:59
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 1 2008, 06:12 PM) [snapback]469990[/snapback]
Surely the key word here ought to be "immediate", or should I just join in the online pogrom?

I think you should. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-01 18:24:31
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 1 2008, 06:15 PM) [snapback]469994[/snapback]
Pretty much sums up what most thought. Irons didn't look like adding too many names to the squad over the close season.

EDIT: Oops, didn't see other thread..

Is that a FACT? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-01 18:27:35
QUOTE(Mick @ Jul 1 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]470000[/snapback]
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f*** up Deego.

You know, I did consider that when I was about to post. I then remembered the 'Over-18' nature of these threads....and thought it a more responsible place for this to be....

The yoof on the other boards are just so impressionable.... happy.gif

In any case, I'm sure you'll find that TJVTCF is a sub-forum on General Nonsense..... bawbag. rolleyes.gif

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Well let's sort it out for you-FAGS

For A Good Shag? wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-01 18:31:45
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 1 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]469998[/snapback]
Unless you have a small blemish on your johnson seeing as it is lightly salted....can get a bit painful.
So I'm told



Well you're told wrong son-once you get to the stage of wanking you'll realise that when you're in full flight you couldn't care less if the Lurpak tub was half full of rusty nails.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 18:39:06
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jul 1 2008, 06:16 PM) [snapback]469996[/snapback]
I'd say she is as far away from a total embarrassment as is humanly possible. Very intelligent, articulate women.

I'd say there is a bizarre class sodden Oedipus Complex surrounding your outpourings here. Very sad and quite beneath you if you don't mind me saying.

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....and I'd say Mr McArthur that you appear to be a total sucker for apparently intelligent, apparently articulate, apparently attractive woman of a certain age.

I just can't abide frustrated middle class bitches foisting their unfulfilled ambitions on their brattish and jumped up sprogs.

Guess we may have to agree to differ, though I'm right.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 19:02:18
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 1 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]470008[/snapback]
Give it a rest... rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-01 19:07:14
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 1 2008, 07:00 PM) [snapback]470020[/snapback]
Look, all we can gather is that Innes is still pissing around with us and a contract and there's still quite a few undesirables still at the club who I'm sure Irons thought would be long gone by now.
We've got a stronger base squad now than we had this time last season, and if Irons is trying to find better options than Robinson or Arbuckle then I for one am willing to wait.
We've already had a couple of decent, swift Bosman signings, now we ought to play a longer game.

He shouldn't have listened to Alistair Donald.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 19:10:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 1 2008, 06:36 PM) [snapback]470015[/snapback]
Aye cos at the moment I am just f***ing this hole I put into my mattress. That's not masturbation is it? happy.gif

Nope-it's fantasy.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 20:08:27
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 1 2008, 07:16 PM) [snapback]470029[/snapback]
Not always, and particularly in this case. Mr Murray's mother is anything but an embarrassment, conducts herself impeccably well.

MR Murray-that says it all!

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mortonjag 2008-07-01 20:11:53
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 1 2008, 07:49 PM) [snapback]470046[/snapback]
I think there's an initial splurge of "ooh, I'm being naughty!" threads and patter cos we've been unleashed on here, but this will settle - we're all taking advantage of the lax rules, I'm sure there will be more mature threads in time, but you can let loose on them, if you know what I mean?

Yip-the standard will drop like a whores knickers.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 20:15:13
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jul 1 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]470042[/snapback]
Is that two hairy guys and one cup? bag.gif

or sookin' the priest's knob.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 20:27:01 Quite simply-would you shag a woman with a wooden leg?

I don't mean use a prosthetic limb to pleasure her-but suppose you met the most beautiful, happy, intelligent woman with a personality to die for-dated her a couple of times, and when the inevitable evening of passion arrived, you ran your hand up her thigh and got a skelf embedded in your palm?

Would that be an instant turn off, or would you continue the adventure?

mortonjag 2008-07-01 20:41:53
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jul 1 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]470071[/snapback]
My friend met such a girl at Clattie-Pats. He was quite please with his conquest.

As an added bonus, she went like the calipers. blink.gif

I can quite believe that-I don't see why the absence of a limb or limbs should in any way be an inhibition to either party. Was she OK otherwise, or did he have to give her a hand?

mortonjag 2008-07-01 20:49:36
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jul 1 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]470062[/snapback]
My personal favourite is Iron Maidens the number of the beast, although I only ever make it to the end of the creepy voice at the start wub.gif

Is this five finger boogie stuff we're talking about?
mortonjag 2008-07-01 20:57:12
QUOTE(SkinTON @ Jul 1 2008, 08:43 PM) [snapback]470077[/snapback]
I'm very worried on a few levels.

I'm worried about the size of the squad for the coming season and fear we will struggle again like last season, but I'm willing to let Davie Irons and the team prove me wrong on that one and will give the team all the support I can, because I also believe the limited squad we have is capable with the right guidance to surprise us. (here's hoping)

The biggest worry for me is the apparent lack of funding the club has available and the lack of communication regarding this. It would be great if the club could give us greater detail into it's financial status and supply us with details on what they are doing to address this, i.e. attracting investors/other sponsors to ease this problem.

How can we possibly be looking to invest in the upgrade of Cappielow to SPL standard, when we don't even have the resource and finance to attract the quality players required to get us there. We don't even have a youth policy in place to create some of this resource ourselves.

I just wish the club would open up to the fans once again as it was when we started out fresh in the 3rd division. The club were happy to have this close association with the fans when we were riding high on a wave of new optimism and we had the abundant resource and backing to get us out of leagues we should never have been in, albeit after many attempts. But here we are again back in the 1st Division and the hush from the club towards the fans is unbelievable.

The message they are giving out to fans in my opinion is that the club under the current regime has reached it's level, so its time to keep quiet, sit tight, every now and then feed us information to keep the optimism going, but in general be content with the status of recurring 1st division football. I sincerely hope I am wrong on this, but this is starting to become reminiscent of the many years we spent lumbering away under the guidance of John Wilson.

Will this club ever push towards it's full potential? I'm don't know, but it frustrates the hell out of me wondering what we could have. Just look at our friends in Paisley for reference.


It sticks in my craw to say this, but look what Hamilton have achieved. Seems only a couple of seasons since we were well ahead of them in the league at one point.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 21:02:07
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 1 2008, 08:56 PM) [snapback]470086[/snapback]
Disappointed to see you join the anti-Rae brigade Alan. sad.gif

I didn't know there was one Smiffy-tell me how to join please.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 21:23:57
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 1 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]470100[/snapback]
Being the founder is not the same as joining wink.gif

I was actually being serious. I'm not aware of any anti-Rae Brigade. FFS I've only met three posters-all on a solitary occasion.

People make up their own minds based on what they hear and see. Some take longer than others to reach conclusions.

Fortunately only a small proportion of folk is incapable of ever seeing things as they are. It's perfectly obvious that the majority is now not too happy with the status quo.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 21:33:06
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 1 2008, 08:51 PM) [snapback]470083[/snapback]
Your overuse of smilies obviously means you have no leg to stand on over the issue.

Case closed.

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As the man with the wooden leg said, it's a matter of a pinion.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 21:38:26
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jul 1 2008, 09:31 PM) [snapback]470142[/snapback]
I used to have a porno with midgets in it

My mate humped a midget aswell

Did they have legs?
mortonjag 2008-07-02 05:33:04
QUOTE(Savo @ Jul 1 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]470198[/snapback]
Funny you mention Hamilton. When I read an article on them in tonight's Evening Times my heart sank at just how far ahead Accies are of us now.

I know MacDonald assumed control of a club with a suitable stadium and office space it could rent, but nonetheless they have still gone from being £5m in debt to having SPL football, with nearly 3000 season tickets sold, local business falling over themselves to pledge sponsorship, 14 youth teams etc. etc. It makes sobering reading for us, but good luck to them for getting it right on and off the park I suppose.

Well worth a read, the last section in particular: Accies article

Cheers-even allowing for the obvious media hype they've done really well with a MUCH smaller fan base than ours. I guess I'm mainly preaching to the converted now about Mr Rae. Time to move on and ask what the f*ck he's going to do about it.

mortonjag 2008-07-02 05:43:43 All three of those players have had significant injuries over the last couple of seasons. They are contracted to the club and receive an income per the contract. WHY should they limp away unless for something better?

Football's the strangest of games-any one of them could turn around his form and surprise us, though in Davie's case (and he's the consummate pro) I do feel he found his level in division 2.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 05:59:35
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 1 2008, 09:27 PM) [snapback]470129[/snapback]
My mate used to be a necrophiliac, till some rotten c*** split on him.
I'll get the jaikit .........

TonInDublin

Lazy b*****d-he should have turned her over first-I find the men much more stimulating TBH.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 06:01:48
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 1 2008, 10:14 PM) [snapback]470191[/snapback]
I think for legnth and noises...this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia7vWGsTBFo

Dream on Puggs.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 06:05:57 That comes a very poor second to the other one-look at that wee skimpy apology for a jobby hanging out-she needs some serious dietary advice.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 06:12:34
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jul 1 2008, 09:36 PM) [snapback]470149[/snapback]
Does the Pope have a wooden dick? tongue.gif

Yes, all twelve inches of it though he doesn't use it as a rule-well not for shagging. It's known in the Vatican as 'Nobus Sanctus' ('Holy Willie' for the great unwashed).
mortonjag 2008-07-02 06:22:04 I've just remembered the make of ice cream-it's Jamaican Ginger-the jobby in the glass is a dead ringer for it. It's got wee raisins through it too.

There's nothing disgusting about a human jobby coming out-I find it MUCH more pleasant that watching people chew their snotters.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 07:21:35
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I'm assuming it's the one at the back here (geddit?)

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI suspect folk think I'm trying to be disgusting, but the minute I saw that jobby in the glass it was deja view. I could almost taste it. I actually started salivating and the Monkey rushed for the padded spoon. He's well trained in first aid you know. He's pulled me out of many a hole.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 07:36:41


Apology on the cards as police pup picture sparks warning over offence to Muslims





A POLICE force has apologised over concerns that an advertisement featuring a German shepherd pup could be offensive to the Islamic community.
As part of a campaign to publicise its new non-emergency telephone number, Tayside Police used a picture of a black puppy, Rebel, on postcards to be distributed throughout the east coast region.

However, following the intervention of Mohammed Asif, a Dundee councillor who warned police the image would "not be welcomed" by some communities, the force described the publicity drive as an "oversight".

Mr Asif, a member of the Tayside Joint Police Board, raised the matter on Monday after claiming the potentially offensive nature of the postcards had been brought to his attention by members of the city's 3,000-strong Muslim community.

Traditionally, dogs have been seen as impure, and the Islamic legal tradition has developed several injunctions that warn Muslims against most contact with them.

Mr Asif, a Labour councillor for Dundee's Coldside ward, said some shopkeepers would refuse to display the postcard.

He said: "My concern was that it's not welcomed by all communities. With the dog on the cards, it was probably a waste of resources going to these communities.

"People who have shops just won't put up the postcard. But the police have said to me that it was simply an oversight and they did not seek to offend or upset."

Tayside Police said they chose the image of Rebel in light of the puppy's popularity locally and online, where his blog has attracted thousands of visitors. The postcards were sent to every home and business in the Tayside area.

A spokesman for the force said he was unable to provide costings for the thousands of postcards, and that the possibility of pulling them from circulation was still under investigation.

He added: "Trainee police dog Rebel has proved extremely popular with children and adults since being introduced to the public, aged six weeks, as Tayside Police's newest canine recruit."

He added: "We did not seek advice from the force's diversity adviser prior to publishing and distributing the postcards. That was an oversight and we apologise for any offence caused."

However, a member of staff at the Al-Maktoum Institute for Arabic and Islamic Studies, a Dundee-based organisation which seeks to promote intelligent debate and understanding of Islam, disputed Mr Asif's claims that the image could be deemed offensive.

The staff member, who did not wish to be named, said: "In scripture, having a dog as a pet is considered forbidden, as they are considered unclean animals, and you must wash and clean after handling them.

"However, dogs can be used to hunt or farm, or even as guide dogs for the blind. I would not say a picture of a dog is offensive, but people have different sensibilities and different limits."

Osama Saeed, chief executive of the Scottish-Islamic Foundation, said Muslims traditionally regarded dogs differently from people brought up in western culture, and suggested that Mr Asif's remarks had been taken out of context.

He said: "It does not appear to me that Mohammed Asif has mentioned anywhere that Muslims as a faith group would find this offensive.

"This seems to be a complaint based on culture rather than religion. There isn't any Islamic basis for taking issue with a simple picture of a little puppy."

Ian Mackintosh, an Angus councillor and convener of the Tayside Joint Police Board, said: "The force has made it clear that it was an oversight not to consult their diversity adviser on this occasion and that there was no intention to cause upset or offence."

Mr Asif, depute convener of the council's leisure, arts and communities committee, was not available for further comment yesterday.





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mortonjag 2008-07-02 08:02:29
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Traditionally, dogs have been seen as impure, and the Islamic legal tradition has developed several injunctions that warn Muslims against most contact with them.
I had the not infrequent experience of seeing some Muslims walking down a main street in Sydney, in front of a member of their clergy, and asking/telling people coming towards them with dogs to ...

CROSS THE STREET !!!

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What did they do-I guess I know what I would have done if I'd been a Rottweiler.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 08:19:00
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They took their dog(s) across the road.

A good combination ... a Rottweiler and a video camera.

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Were the dogs only allowed to walk on one side of the road?
mortonjag 2008-07-02 08:43:19
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The Muslims did not want the canines near their clergyman.

Dogs may we walked anywhere on a leash.

A couple of rottweilers and/or Rhodesian ridgebacks would be interesting.

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I do understand, but surely if the dogs were allowed to be there the Muslims should not have objected! huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-02 08:51:12
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 2 2008, 08:46 AM) [snapback]470299[/snapback]
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who is going to cross the street ?

an Islamic cleric or a dog ?

Well it just seems to me that if they both have an equal right to be there, there should be mutual respect for that.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 09:35:44
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Jul 2 2008, 08:39 AM) [snapback]470294[/snapback]
I think there is a hard worker amongst them.
I wasn't starting the thread to completely have a go at the 3 players in question, was just intereseted to see the views on the 3 as it looks increasingly like they will be plying their trade at Scappa next season. My only gripe is that it seems like with them staying, then it is denying the manager getting better quality in the door. Of course they have a contract tho, so are entitled to sit on their laurels till it is up. I suppose its a case of if they think they can knuckle down and force themselves into the managers plans or are happy to pick up a Full-Time wage for as long as they can, as they will more than likely be moved on at the end of this coming season!!


Professional footballers generally agree that getting a regular game is extremely important.

Many a player has made a financially unattractive move in the hope that he would do better elsewhere and win out in the end. I feel that any of those three boys would move on if something reasonably attractive came up, but the problem is that they didn't get much chance to 'show their wares' last season. If they're feeling 'left out/let down I'd hardly expect them to be dancing in glee.

It looks like they don't have much choice but to 'sit tight' on their contracts.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 11:29:09

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You can draw your own conclusions as to whom I was referring!!




Indeed YA NUMPTY-that's the nicest thing you've ever called me-happy days beckon.

Dialect-chiefly Scots

A bumbling fool:one who is intellectually challenged. laugh.gif



mortonjag 2008-07-02 11:53:41
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jul 2 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]470329[/snapback]
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Indeed-the aim is dire-it must be almost a foot below her mouth.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 12:00:17 I have to confess to being a dirty b*stard-loads of filthy habits like spitting, scratching my arse in public, burping loudly, farting pure mingers etc. I'll even admit to having wiped my knob dry on the curtains more than once when pressed for time, and there are a couple more I'll keep to myself, but CHEWIN' SNOTTERS is vile. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-02 12:09:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 2 2008, 11:46 AM) [snapback]470368[/snapback]
OK - delete insolvency jokes, insert medical jokes ...
A bloke walked into the mortonjag's surgery for an appointment.

"Would you like to tell me your problem?" the pretty receptionist asked. "I'll need the information for the doctor."

"It's rather embarrassing," the guy stammered. "You see, I have a very large and almost constant erection."

"Well, mortonjag is very busy today," the receptionist cooed, "but maybe I can squeeze you in."

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mortonjag 2008-07-02 12:20:27
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jul 2 2008, 11:51 AM) [snapback]470373[/snapback]
personally I would not have sold my soul the way he has done, I'd have continued to show my colours only being the Scottish saltire. It's a bit hypocritical like when Gordon Brown said one of his favourite sporting moments was when England won the world cup.

I will still be cheering him on today though.



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This whole episode is ridiculous on every level.
Some of the English press has been disgraceful. The Times yesterday and The Independent on Monday both had shocking pieces about Murray and if 'Scottish' had been substituted with black or Muslim the police would have been involved no doubt. Mark Steel had a good article in The Independent today saying it's the snobbery of the 'Home Counties English' that's the problem who all loved 'Tim Henman and his stiff middle class nature'. These people thought it was terrible when Fred Perry won the tournament because he was of the 'wrong social class'.
Conversely, some of the comments from Scots about Murray in a Union Flag are equally disgraceful. These people are just idiots frankly and wouldn't be happy unless Murray played wearing a kilt and drinking Famous Grouse during breaks in games.
The bottom line is a kid from Dunblane who is in the last 8 of Wimbledon and we should applaud him for that without bringing petty prejudices into it.

He's twenty one, upper middle class, f*cked off to Barcelona when he was fifteen for training other Scottish 'kids' would die for, and shares a millionaire's bachelor pad in London with big brother.

And YOU accuse the press of bending the truth Mr McArthur!

He's no more 'a kid from Dunblane' than Coulthard was ever 'a kid from Twynholm'.

Having said all that I'd still be rooting for him today if he was not also a petulant spoilt brat whose behaviour would not be tolerated in the sort of sports that normal Scottish kids enjoy.

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mortonjag 2008-07-02 12:44:40
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mortonjag had become fed up with malpractice insurance and was on the verge of being burned out.

Hoping to try another career where skillful hands would be beneficial, he decided to change careers and become a mechanic.

He found out from James Watt college what was involved, signed up for evening classes, attended
diligently, and learned all he could.

When the time for the practical exam approached, mortonjag prepared carefully for weeks, and
completed the exam with tremendous skill.

When the results came back, he was surprised to find that he had obtained a score of 150%.

Fearing an error, he called the instructor, saying, "I don't want to appear ungrateful for such an
outstanding result, but I wondered if there had been an error which needed adjusting."

The instructor said, "During the exam, you took the engine apart perfectly, which was worth 50% of the
total mark. You put the engine back together again perfectly, which is also worth 50% of the mark."

The instructor went on to say, "I gave you an extra 50% because you did all of it through the muffler."

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My receptionists were all giggling one day-they claimed there was a muffled titter going round the waiting room.

I glanced out and there she was- Mrs McClumpha-all boobs and scarf.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 12:50:21
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 2 2008, 12:44 PM) [snapback]470398[/snapback]
Who really gives a sh*t? It's a dreadful sport, Murray is a comestain and the English supporters are his w**k rag.

Surprised Spurtle hasn't been on demanding he be stripped of his balls.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 13:04:00
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 2 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]470405[/snapback]
Is there anything inoffensive to Muslims ? They do seem to be preoccupied with somewhat petty issues .

Almost all the Muslims I know-including a few I regard as friends, have no objection to money.

QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jul 2 2008, 12:54 PM) [snapback]470407[/snapback]
seeing as my last posts on this subject were obviously deemed ' offensive' , which they werent meant to be.. heres my 2 bobs worth..

if anyone comes to live in my beutiful country (Scotland), then they should respect the culture which we have, god knows it's eveolved over hundreds if not thousands of years, and I for one dont want it to change, so why should our authorities bow down to religious beliefs or otherwise of incoming nationals to the detriment of the people who live and were born here... next we will have christmass cards banned because they show baby jesus on them ! my religion tells us we should 'not worship false gods'..as the prophet mohamed is , in my religions belief ' a false god' then temples to worship him are offensive to me.. but am i allowed to say this ??? are the authorities going to stop planning permission for such buildings ?? if they dont like our culture then they should move out of our country.. my belief, and I'm certainly NO RACIST.. I just want to be allowed to wallow in the culture and beliefs that I was brought up with in my country and pass them on to my family without being demonised as a racist because someone else doesnt want to live in their own country.

I regard that as an extremely valid point. OK I'm willing to accept that we are perhaps only nominally a 'Christian' country nowadays, but I fail to see why our culture, values, and beliefs should be diluted in order that incomers can impose theirs. Tolerance should cut both ways, AND be seen to do so.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 13:11:24
QUOTE(stuart @ Jul 2 2008, 01:02 PM) [snapback]470412[/snapback]
Maybe he feels proud to be British and wanted to wave the British flag?Not sure why people are condemning him at all. He also got a lot of his funding from the LTA which is a British Association also so of course he is entitled to have that flag if he wants.

ANd if it gets him even more support than he got on Monday night then it is a good move on his part, he would never have won on Monday without that crowd behind him.

It's called being 'On the make'-he learned it from Mummy.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 13:16:50
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jul 2 2008, 01:05 PM) [snapback]470416[/snapback]
if she had no arms how do you get a w**k....

An armless young woman called Jean
has invented a w*nking machine
for only two bob
it's attached to your knob
and you come when the light turns to green.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 13:26:46
QUOTE(cmdc @ Jul 2 2008, 01:15 PM) [snapback]470424[/snapback]
Aren't there three Muslim sources quoted in the article, with only one claiming that the postcard might not be used by Muslim shopkeepers?

Indeed, but the Polis are paid by the Cooncil.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 13:30:08
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 2 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]470432[/snapback]
Whether some believe me or not, I'll say I wouldn't under any circumstances pose for a picture like Murray did.
I understand why he did it.He did it much in the same way Gordon Brown latched on to the britishness nonsence, basically to make them more appealing to the English because they are Scots.
But for me, and the poltical climate that now exists here in Scotland, he has poltiticized his actions. He has brought politics into his sport when perhaps he didn't want that to happen.
The debate here in Scotland is whether you are a nationalist or a unionist, something that doesn't as yet exist on the same level in England.

Until we get out of this despicable union Scots will continue to have to put the flag of their nation to one side and pick up the union flag and adopt the nationality of being british rather than Scottish.

I hope he loses his next match....

Oh don't you worry Spurtle- I'm looking forward to it-and to Mrs Murray's regular 'bathroom breaks'.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 13:34:15
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 2 2008, 01:23 PM) [snapback]470429[/snapback]
Nope. If Mick wants to post a thread without having to worry about a load of 14 year old spammers hijacking it with their s*** patter then he's free to do it in here. It doesn't ALL have to be about anal sex and muffing burds on their dabs.

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mortonjag 2008-07-02 13:40:40
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jul 2 2008, 01:35 PM) [snapback]470440[/snapback]
Col, what has politicised his actions is that someone has handed him a UJ and said "pose with this round your shoulders". For PR reasons he has done it. Possibly he has little interest in politics himself. It is pretty likely that in this instance he has been manipulated by PR or press people. I think we all know that he is not making any personal statement about being British. Personally if some one gave me a UJ and asked me to wear it, I would refuse, and WDE's Morton/Rangers scenario rings true with me too. As for going to work with a UJ on my clothes every day, well I don't think that's ever likely to happen - you can probably cut through the threads that it's been sewn on with, there, problem solved.

Anyway, Murray has my support - if he renounced Scotland I would reconsider but I think he's made it quite clear in the past that he considers himself Scottish.

The flag issue's neither here nor there for me. I'd love to see a young Scotsman doing us proud in any sport. Murray comes over as an arrogant spoilt rich kid brat, and to me that is not representative of being Scots.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 19:39:19
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jul 2 2008, 04:03 PM) [snapback]470505[/snapback]
I am possibly slightly more confused than worried about conflicting press releases from Cappielow. This follows a trend over the last few seasons when ambitious noises about signings etc. were made at the start of the close season, our hopes were built up, then the proposals have been modified to varying degrees.

This has transcended McCormack, McInally and now Irons, making them look as though they can’t back up their ambitious words with action. No matter what we think of these three managers, I think we’d possibly agree honesty is a trait they share. This causes me to think there is something happening behind the scenes outwith their control. It appears they have had their minds changed for them.

I wonder if when they made their signing intensions known, it’s based on what they’ve been told by the board, then for some reason this does not materialize and they are left to backtrack quite embarrassingly, while the board stay in the background. It may be that someone on the board gets very enthusiastic about the next season and talks about what he’d like to do, then when the crunch comes he just can’t or won’t deliver, or simply changes his mind. If this doesn’t add up can anyone suggest any other reasons?

Despite this being quite a recurring trend, I am still hopeful we will make two or three more decent signings, however I believe we are delaying ambitions of mounting a title challenge till possibly next season.


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QUOTE(Malt @ Jul 2 2008, 04:16 PM) [snapback]470513[/snapback]
I think Rae definately influences the Manager's decisions. We have seen Cowboy, McInally and Irons all state they need xyz and half way through the jigsaw the suddently feel they have enough. Seems to me the Chairman tells them one thing but does another!

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Total speculation.

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mortonjag 2008-07-02 19:49:45
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jul 2 2008, 03:35 PM) [snapback]470495[/snapback]
To be honest, MacAnespie was about as pointless a signing as you'll get. First club daft enough to take him off our hands is welcome. McGregor is no great loss either, wasn't good enough at centre-back in the third division, and sure as hell isn't in the first. Has the basic components of a good player, but if he hasn't managed to actually become one by now then he never will. We can do better, whether he's a nice, hard-working local boy or not.

As for Stevenson, then put him in front of McAlister, Paartalu, Masterton/Jenkins and Finlayson and it would be possibly the best midfield in the league. It's senseless to have a guy with so much ability and not even give him a half-decent run in that role. And don't start about "attitudes" - Weatherson is far worsefootballer, yet gets a 3 year deal, a regular place in the starting line-up and occasionally the captaincy. At least Jamie is in good physical condition.

I've been thinking for weeks that it's funny how Jamie's been written off as having an 'attitude' problem.

Very few fans seem capable of seeing the good and bad in players. If his 'attitude' problem is genetic, it must have been another guy who played for Alloa and we were palmed off with a 'lookalike'. dry.gif

He IS one player who can deliver a ball into the box-who knows, maybe under Irons we'll see him develop as a useful wide right player and for the first time in ages our strikers (and we DO have four) will get something to latch onto. I'd FAR rather see a fit and motivated Jamie on the pitch any day than superkev OR Jimbo.

mortonjag 2008-07-02 20:05:23
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jul 2 2008, 01:48 PM) [snapback]470453[/snapback]
Post of the week, and not just because I agree with about 90% of it. I think Col and co would not insist on TFG.
Oh dear, did Mrs M knock you back at a tea dance. You really don't like her, do you.

Most people on here probably had parents or grandparents who were working before 15. It kind of negates your argument about leaving Scotland at 15. The reason he got the training - he was good and the training in UK wasn't good enough. Its why some kids get to OF teams and others languish in lower divisions. Sport filters out the quality, and the earlier it happens the better.

I can't understnad why someone would knock Murray for doing this.

I cannot abide the bitch. I detest everything she represents. I ABHOR parents remaining attached to their children by an invisible umbilical cord in order to gratify their own thirst for success and glory, and thereby denying their sprogs true freedom of choice and personal development.

As somebody else said, poor little rich kid may well wake up at the grand old age of thirty-indeed he may end up resenting his mother's all pervading influence. Who knows, he may even grow up into a mature big boy.

Anyway he's getting humped and the tantrums are starting! laugh.gif

Rule Brittania.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 20:16:25 Big hugs Judy!!

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mortonjag 2008-07-02 20:18:46 ENGLAND sends him homeward to think again!


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mortonjag 2008-07-02 21:19:31
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 2 2008, 06:34 PM) [snapback]470549[/snapback]
no chance of that round here

Oh I'd suggest there was until you peeped in Alistair. wub.gif


Anyway most folk are missing the point-cooncillors are cooncillors no matter what skin colour or religious beliefs they may have. He DOESN'T represent anything other than a minority view, and the Polis should have told him to 'f*ck off' just as they WOULD have done if it was 'offending'-say-Jehova's Witnesses.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 21:25:14
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jul 2 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]470589[/snapback]
So we've established that you don't know Murray or his mother personally yet you have an insight into what makes them as a family. Did your mother dream for you to be a burner in the shipyards but you had such an individual drive that you overcame all odds and became a doctor? Or did your parents love and nurture you?
The Manky Dug used to say that you were a complete t*** and I used to defend you thinking you were so deprived of company that you were just on the wind up. Now I just think you're a complete t***.

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You'll really need to meet me personally Mr McArthur! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-02 21:34:12
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 2 2008, 09:15 PM) [snapback]470592[/snapback]
i thought you didn't really bother much with fiction? tongue.gif

anyway, i seem to have something in common with tontastic, with exit music (ian rankin) and engleby (sebastian faulkes) both on the recently read list. mortonjag might appreciate engleby, who knows? smile.gif

also on the list, god is not great (christopher hitchens) is a bracing read and i've just finished candide (voltaire) rolleyes.gif

i don't have anything reserved for summer, but i might have another go at the steep approach to garbadale (iain banks) which i put down at christmas, after a few pages, having not long finished the crow road.

I'm highly impressed Pangloss. I was forced to read that crap at the proper University. Stick to the Broons-it's really good entertainment, and you don't have to try to understand what you'll never! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-02 21:39:45
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'the 25/40th's norm'? unsure.gif

Izzat betur Smiffy?
mortonjag 2008-07-02 21:44:22
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jul 2 2008, 08:57 PM) [snapback]470584[/snapback]
Sorry I don't agree, wide right under McInally meant right wing back, which minimised the impact of the likes of Stevenson and McLaren in this role. For this reason alone Finlayson was preferred. If you wanted a winger who can get past his man and fire a good cross in, who would you pick between Finlayson and Stevenson?

I watched and admired Stevenson with Alloa more than any other opposition player in the second division, and he played down the right, the left and the centre to equal effect, and there was nothing wrong with his attitude. I met him twice when he was at the top of his game, and he was the quietest and shyest player I have ever came across. I honestly don't think he has an attitude problem, he just needs his manager to believe in him.

I never did either, but he WAS thoroughly sickened by JM, and seemed to 'give up'. He's still young, and he's still got talent.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 21:47:42
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jul 2 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]470602[/snapback]
Unlucky Murray, he has still made a fantastic breakthrough this year, nobody can take that away from him. I think most people would agree, aside from Nadal and Federer, against any of the other five players in the quarters today, he would have fared better.

He was playing against a guy who is rampant on clay, keeping Federer from getting his hands on the only Slam missing from his collection, and he took him to five sets in the Wimbledon final last year, so he is pretty much rampant on grass these days too!

The US Open at Flushing is next for Andy!

What an evocative phrase.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 21:52:36 I don't see anything pornographic. A lady is answering nature's call. She was clearly caught short-it happens all the time.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 21:56:32
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jul 2 2008, 04:38 PM) [snapback]470524[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI see Wendy's been shat on from an early age.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 22:11:25
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Jul 2 2008, 10:08 PM) [snapback]470628[/snapback]
It's that "always very kind to me" part that could get you into trouble.... wink.gif
Yo mama's so fat, the back of her neck looks like a packet of hot dogs.

Yo Mama-she some hot dog.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 22:14:42
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 2 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]470627[/snapback]
Indeed looks like a bit of splish splash in there too.

Never ignore nature's call!
mortonjag 2008-07-02 22:18:32
QUOTE(cappielow-doc @ Jul 2 2008, 09:45 PM) [snapback]470608[/snapback]
Cant agree with you there MJ,his mother is a tennis coach and therefore has more than a passing interest in her boys career.If i played for Morton should my father be banned from going to Cappielow to cheer me on every week or Lewis Hamiltons dad after guiding his son to F1 not be there to see his sons victories after putting in years of time,effort and money,its only natural that parents are there to cheer them on.

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QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jul 2 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]470626[/snapback]
No thanks.

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mortonjag 2008-07-02 22:23:11
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jul 2 2008, 10:01 PM) [snapback]470619[/snapback]
One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them, one ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them.

The Ring's primary power was control of the other forum members, including domination of their will. Even though the Ring could not grant the wielder the physical power to control or destroy beings greater than the Moderators it could be a very useful tool for domination of the Forum.

The Ring would also extend a mortal possessor's post-count indefinitely. Gandalf explains that it does not "grant new life", but that the possessor merely "continues" until life becomes unbearably wearisome for everyone else. Like the Nine Rings, the One Ring also has the effect of corrupting mortals who wore it for extended periods of time.

Yet in the end, the Ring's inherent corruption will twist its bearer into another Dark Lord as omnipotent and all-corrupting as Sauron was, or worse, regardless of his intentions at the outset.

My precious

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Don't bother saying your prayers tonight.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 22:30:09
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jul 2 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]470636[/snapback]
Dear me. Is there any single thread on here that you don't opine on? laugh.gif

Several-you can even check if you wish!
mortonjag 2008-07-02 22:37:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 2 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]470638[/snapback]
Oh btw...according to my brother and some mates...while you two pouffes were gearing up for a fight outside apparently 2 pouffes inside were winching away and getting up to some in the toilet.

...was this you two? wink.gif

Did one of the pouffes need stuffed?
mortonjag 2008-07-02 22:41:48 I can't do those you tube links but I piss myself laughing at Morris dancing. Those c*nts actually take it so seriously.

JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZUZ laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-03 06:05:37
QUOTE(El gofer @ Jul 2 2008, 11:04 PM) [snapback]470667[/snapback]
Just read that thread.

I know CJTon, as do quite a few people on this board. He is not Crawford Rae and as he said has no direct influence or connection. He is a Morton fan of (ahem sorry CJ) 40 years. I believe that he has met AD and that he has been taking an active role in the club.

MJ, dont get defensive, he at no point said or implied you are stupid.

I may personally be getting a bit defensive, but I dont appreciate CJs name or motives being questioned as he is simply someone posting a view point on this thread.

So far as I am concerned CJ Ton is just another ANONYMOUS poster who remained effectively silent during the long running AD thread, but who chose to tell ME to be 'more positive' as soon as Crawford Rae stated that Mr Donald is 'out of the country'.

My problem with CJ Ton is that like a few others he appears to be happy with the club's 'need to know' approach to the paying customers. He also comes over as dismissive and patronising of them. Why bother to announce at the eleventh hour that 'he knew all the time', boasting that 'he's close to the inner workings of the club and knows AD'?

That, IMO is NOT 'posting a point of view' at all-in fact, reading his comments again, I note that the only considered view he appears to have is that all is hunky dory, and that Mortonjag requires a wee slap for daring to ask questions.

I strongly suspect that CJ Ton knows no more about AD's real motives than the rest of us. If that is incorrect, and he sees himself as 'one of us', maybe he will consider spilling the beans.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 06:20:58
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 2 2008, 10:58 PM) [snapback]470666[/snapback]
Keech!

Dialect-chiefly Scots

Rubbish, detritus, crap, verbal or written. Excretia, human or otherwise

See 'Thats a load of keech ya auld fart'



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GLAIKIT



(Dialect-chiefly Scots-Adj.)

Stupid, senseless, silly, giddy, thoughtless, affected, petty.

Doubtless some glaikit gomerel is about to announce-'General nonsense for this pish'! blush.gif




mortonjag 2008-07-03 06:26:54
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jul 2 2008, 10:40 PM) [snapback]470650[/snapback]
Not sure I have as much time on my hands as you, sir. wink.gif

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I like the 'Sir' bit.

You will go far young man!
mortonjag 2008-07-03 06:28:52
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 2 2008, 10:43 PM) [snapback]470652[/snapback]
shouldn't this stuff be in that new forum? ohmy.gif

Alistair-are you sitting comfortably?


















































That made me laugh.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 06:32:10
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 2 2008, 11:10 PM) [snapback]470668[/snapback]
i think the point being missed is that this a non-story, loosely written, and spuriously posted rolleyes.gif

apparently, the police sent cards to all homes and businesses to advertise the non-emergency contact number. someone 'complained' about the imagery used. someone from the police 'apologised'. the end.

did i miss something
?

Yes.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 06:35:51
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 2 2008, 11:14 PM) [snapback]470671[/snapback]
you should be able to just rip the balls out and insert the rat where your balls used to be.

(assuming that your balls and rat are usb)

A rat wi' nae baws Alistair, and guess who posted about it! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-03 06:38:53
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 2 2008, 10:57 PM) [snapback]470665[/snapback]
candide is an easy read and it's really quite funny. did you read it as literature or philosphy?

Effin French! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-03 06:42:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 3 2008, 03:37 AM) [snapback]470728[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

Just for you ... Punch.

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What Mr McArthur sees in the hacket old crone on the left (as viewed) defies logic. I have already done credit to Cassius Clay! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-03 06:47:03 Cricket's for boring POUFFES.

Tennis is for POUFFES and girls.

Rugby's for big POUFFE girls.

Football is a man's game played by POUFFES.

The only really competitive sport left is Scrabble.


POUFFE is a good scrabble word.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 06:51:47
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 2 2008, 11:48 PM) [snapback]470677[/snapback]
How low is that MrsTon he's saying things about me before I was even allowed in to defend myself blink.gif
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You haven't denied it though-perhaps you have a wide wand.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 07:03:16
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 3 2008, 12:07 AM) [snapback]470685[/snapback]
OK, I'm coming out as one.

When I was 16 I worked in a local Funeral Parlour and at that tender age loved a Good Stiffie.

The best of it was they never said no !!!

I'm going back to shagging deid b*****ds !!!

How common. mad.gif

I always check the birth certificates first.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 07:09:34
QUOTE(dmc @ Jul 3 2008, 12:44 AM) [snapback]470712[/snapback]
The only s*** here is that these muslim fukers get away with anything they want and we (thanks to our fuked up government) step out of line get ripped up for being racist !! When was the last time a Christian blew up a f***in' muslim and claimed it was in the name of Jesus!!??

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QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 3 2008, 01:06 AM) [snapback]470718[/snapback]
last thursday.

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You just can't keep a secret can you. That's you off knob sookin' duties for a week.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 07:11:52 Masturbation denies poosies their rights.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 07:16:10
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Jul 3 2008, 01:45 AM) [snapback]470723[/snapback]
vastly over-rated...

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Some folk wouldn't touch cANAL sex with a barge pole.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 08:22:27
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jul 3 2008, 07:34 AM) [snapback]470751[/snapback]
Amusing, but you're missing the point. Stevenson obviously has ability but his attitude shows a lack of professionalism, highlighted in Nacho's quote. If he doesn't follow ther simple advice how can he be trusted to follow the difficult stuff.

His REPORTED attitude may indicate a lack of professionalism.

There appeared to be no lack of professionalism at Alloa.

It takes two to tango.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 08:26:09
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 3 2008, 08:13 AM) [snapback]470752[/snapback]
thought not

You were mistaken.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 08:35:07
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 3 2008, 08:29 AM) [snapback]470755[/snapback]
Is that porn? Whatever floats your boat. eek.gif

It was a picture of a lady doing a jobby-I think she may have been peeing simultaneously.

Neither of those functions is recommended while clothed.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 08:40:53
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 3 2008, 12:12 AM) [snapback]470686[/snapback]
I know lots of us joke about it but do any of you....

Believe it happens
Enjoy It
Tried It

If you haven't but are thinking about it, here's a hint.

Down in the Borders, Kelso Land, they sell the wellies with the holding straps at the bottom of them to slip the sheep's legs in to and make sure they don't escape whilst you're RAMing it into them.

I'd recommend a pair blink.gif

Of course it happens-of course it's enjoyable-of course I've tried it-and that stuff about wellies is only appropriate to folk who RAPE sheep.

Sheep are lovable cuddly creatures with beautiful lips. They return warmth with warmth. My intake of mutton has soared in the last year.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 08:53:07
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 3 2008, 08:41 AM) [snapback]470760[/snapback]
i never quite got the myth that Jamie was excellent at corners and delivering free kicks. 99% of the time they were terrible.

you keep saying you'd rather see a fit and motivated Peter and Jamie, just like the fact i want to eat whipped cream off charlize theron's body...it will never happen, and i'll be left to drink sour milk out of the belly button of middle aged geography teacher called Albert.

it was down to people like Peter and Jamie we were almost relegated last season, wheras it was down to people like jim and kev that we weren't .

edit to add: people say Jamie should be given a chance because he was good in the 2nd division with alloa and decent with us, but lets not forget how s*** that division is. We were the best of a bad bunch the season we won it and our team was terrible, Stirling went right back down and if we'd kept the exact same team as we almost did we'd have been straight back down aswell.

Jamie found his level in the 2nd division where he can be the big fish in a small pond, so the sooner he goes back to his small pond the better.

if you watch the goal of the season video on youtube you can see just how horribly bad the defending was from other teams.


I've met Albert and would not advise you to go anywhere near him.

Superkev and Jimbo are machines-you just have to switch them on, and they'll faithfully go round in unvarying aimless circles until switched back off.

Jamie and Spoonsy are footballers-they have potential-realising that potential was unsurprisingly beyond JM's wit. DI will hopefully do better.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 08:57:48
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 3 2008, 08:41 AM) [snapback]470761[/snapback]
The Fib-Dems need a new leader as Nicol Stephen has resigned. He suddenly wants to "Spend time with the family"

The sudden departure makes you think there is something wrong....Aberdeen By-pass enquiry in September perhaps ?

Or is it the opposition just can't cope with the popular and charismatic leader of the SNP Alex Salmond ? laugh.gif

No
mortonjag 2008-07-03 09:04:50
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 3 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]470767[/snapback]
people say Jamie and Peter are the best footballers at the club, it just so happens they are the two with the worst attitudes aswell, Which i think gives me and any other Morton supporter to be annoyed at them and dislike them. There is no point being a good footballer with a terrible attitude, far far better players than those two have had their careers ruined before they've even started because of their attitude.

JM did a lot of bad things but he cant be blamed for players not realising their potential, they're big boys. If people want to make anything of themselves in whatever career they choose then they have to work hard for it. The sooner they realise this the better, although hopefully they'll be long gone by the time they do, if they ever do.

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Let's just say JM didn't exactly get the best out of them. Footballers are just wee boys-barely out of their nappies-they need guidance and support-some much more than others.

Anyway it's nine O'clock and I'm just about to walk the dog round to the 'Pakis' for my paper.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 09:28:19
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 3 2008, 09:17 AM) [snapback]470770[/snapback]
he may not have got the best out of them but their attitude wasn't his problem, he's not there to hold players hands.

when Iron's came in he persisted with Weatherson as we had no one else until he couldn't persist any longer and had to throw in wake who lets face it, was terrible in the games leading upto that point. Wake with limited ability came inand done more in a few games than Weatherson had done since Irons was appointed.

Jamie got one game under Irons and was anonymous and spent his time s***ting out of tackles, he was then told he could find a new club.

so you can't blame JM, as our new more competent manager has transfer listed on of our wonder players and dropped the other one, which in the end kept us in the 1st division. Dropping Weatherson was the most important decision any of our managers have made in years, could only get better if he had been transfer listed aswell.

It should have been and much of it was down to his. Anybody who thinks the performance of DI or any of the players he fielded in his short tenure is an accurate guide to what's about to happen may well be deluded.


Time will tell. I believe Spoonsy will be well into double figures this season. I'll be ASTONISHED if Wakey reaches ten.

I've also got a wee sneaky feeling that Jamie may well surprise us.

We must be positive! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-03 09:33:28
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jul 3 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]470772[/snapback]
Actually MJ, I think the answer is a resounding YES, unarguably. Nicol Stephen has been a total nonentity and every time he asks a (usually badly thought out) question at FMQs, he gets slapped down. He basically wasn't up to the job and was pretty much a personality free zone without the personal charisma that good leaders usually have in addition to some ability. I'd compare his situation to John Swinney, a very bright and capable man but definitely not a leader. Oh, and further down the food chain, Gordon Brown, who actually wasn't even that good as a chancellor but is palpably an atrocious leader, without any leadership qualities whatsoever. And better not even consider Wendy's crew because there isn't one of them has any leadership ability.

I think you may be right on the bypass business, Col. It may be that his reasons for departure are as stated but often there is more to these things than meets the eye - ditto that MP in Glasgow East who is said to be on the verge of being exposed as a master of expenses fiddling.

Aye, but you like Bawheid!
mortonjag 2008-07-03 10:43:49
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 3 2008, 09:46 AM) [snapback]470776[/snapback]
every other player that was terrible under JM performed MUCH better under DI, Robinson got progressively better, Harding and Greacen improved tenfold, Mcalister looked much more of a threat. The only player who didn't get better (infact probably got worse) was Weatherson.

Weatherson will probably have a good run of 6 or 7 games and be anonymous the rest so may well get into double figures, which isn't good enough for your main striker as the season lasts for 36 games so scoring a load of goals in a short spell really doesn't help. Similair Wake i think will get into double figures but i think he'll score one or two hat-tricks this season as well as two every so often and one here and there, but again nowhere near consistently enough for it to make a huge difference over the whole season.

we need to sign a striker who will get us a goal every 2 or 3 games as right now we don't have that.

i'd be more surprised if Jamie played a big part in our coming season than i would be if he joined the Golden Lions.

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Time will indeed tell!
mortonjag 2008-07-03 10:49:44
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jul 3 2008, 09:36 AM) [snapback]470774[/snapback]
What a country an independent Scotland will be if some of the folk on here get their way. No mention of justice or democracy or self-determination but petty, spiteful and bitter nonsense about a tennis player. The problem with most nationalist I've come into contact with is that they are inward and not outward looking and this is a real problem.
The independence the likes of myself and David Edwards advocate is a million miles from the narrow and hateful nonsense the majority on here espouse.

Good-and you may find I'm with you there.

'Petty, spiteful, and bitter nonsense'-possibly.

There again 'independence', in its truest sense, should surely make each person's perspective as valid as another's.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 10:52:35 I had a chicken Kum Po last night-it was delicious. I'd never order anything 'European' from a 'Chinky'.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 10:55:57
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 3 2008, 10:15 AM) [snapback]470778[/snapback]
good, my lips are as dry and wrinkled as your testies.

I know that-Deego's are soft and gentle, but your technique is par excellence.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 10:58:07
QUOTE(Muz @ Jul 3 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]470780[/snapback]
Queens of the Stone Age, Make it with Chu.

The women love that one. and me.

Sounds fun-my men are suckers for 'Onward Christian Soldiers'.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 11:01:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 3 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]470792[/snapback]
our favourite Thai

full 6 nights a week

bookings weeks in advance

http://www.buddharaksa.com.au/photos.htm



Herb/Spice Name: Chili: "Phrik" in Thai
Description: Chili is an erect, branched, shrub-like herb with fruits used as garnishing and flavouring in Thai dishes. There are many different species. All contain capsaicin, a biologically active ingredient beneficial to the respiratory system, blood pressure and heart. Other therapeutic uses include being a, carminative and anti flatulence agent, and digestant.


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mortonjag 2008-07-03 11:08:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 3 2008, 11:04 AM) [snapback]470797[/snapback]
some Priks can be wrinkled old Sods.

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Just when I was perking up.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 13:05:41
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Jul 3 2008, 11:16 AM) [snapback]470804[/snapback]
She used to play tennis but didn't make it at the top level, so turned her attention to coaching. This is obviously how her sons got into the game, and they've done well from it. She still coaches young Scottish players. What an evil woman...

Scotland is not recognized as a separate nationality in tennis so Murray will always be representing Great Britain in tennis. Though it's interesting to hear the deafening silence from the rabid nationalists about Alex Salmond's good luck and congratulatory messages to Murray throughout Wimbledon. Surely the "Wee Eck Must Go" campaign starts here.

So she foisted her frustrated ambitions on her two wee boys-not an unusual scenario-hardly a crime-but when one turns out to be a petted spoilt brat whose behaviour makes McEnroe look like St Francis, her parenting is called into question too.
I guess you either like the hard faced cow or you just don't.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 13:33:06
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 3 2008, 01:00 PM) [snapback]470832[/snapback]
But GibbyTON and MortonJAG are wink.gif

Mortonjag would never be in a clique-TiD and Boozie were 'coaxed to take him on board'! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-03 13:35:10
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 3 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]470817[/snapback]
aah the old "a2m". hmmm, pretty degrading making your burd taste her own poop, is it not?
maybe his burd has got a fa[b]nny like a JCB bucket and he enjoyed the tightness[/b]

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mortonjag 2008-07-03 13:39:45
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 3 2008, 01:35 PM) [snapback]470856[/snapback]
Aye, but so's my hand if I lube up and grasp correctly. A sheep is just honking - their f*nn**s must be humming.

Any particular refrain?
mortonjag 2008-07-03 13:42:17
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 3 2008, 01:38 PM) [snapback]470860[/snapback]
Hey you have a few pals on here now and you decided to desert the only friend you had for a year or so, Thanks a lot, I hope you put on 4 stone and canny get to sleep at night.

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mortonjag 2008-07-03 13:50:13
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jul 3 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]470863[/snapback]
you've never seen my uncle Morris dancing..ya cheeky c***

Is your uncle Morris a POUFFE?
mortonjag 2008-07-03 13:52:32
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 3 2008, 01:43 PM) [snapback]470865[/snapback]
You know something thats the last post on here you'll post until you finish work as my next post on here will not be safe for work. So GIRUY.

There are no lavvys at Boozie's work in case some perv keeks in when you're doing a keech.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 14:06:03
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jul 3 2008, 01:51 PM) [snapback]470867[/snapback]
How strange to see Mortonjag ranting about financially well off successful people. It's not like him at all since he and his family and friends are loaded and extremely satisfied in their professional lives. I believe he may have mentioned this on a couple of threads in the past.

I'm sure we'll all get behind WDE playing for the Morton jersey this season and congratulate him on not signing for Rangers for 10 times the money. This is also a stance I believe he'll live by in his takeaway food venture. If an English beef supplier offers him beef at a tenth of the price of the nearest Scottish competitor he'll still buy Scottish, even if his business goes to the wall because he refuses to buy English over Scottish.

This thread is hysterical and tragic all at once. If he'd appeared draped in a George Cross I could see the issue. Or if he'd denounced his Scottishness with some ill chosen words it would make him look like a pr*ck. Or talked about how much he enjoyed Gascoigne's goal against Scotland in '96 etc.

I really hope he doesn't have any English friends, that would be shocking.

Don't be a silly Billy.

Andy's 'just a kid from Dunblane'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-03 14:34:56
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 3 2008, 02:13 PM) [snapback]470874[/snapback]
Seriously MJ, what's the problem? He's a tennis player who doesn't like losing.

I HATE losing, I'd rather break a bone than lose at anything.

And as for his mother, she conducts herself very well. I see no reason for you to judge and dislike them.


I'm not aware of any problem. I stated my considered opinion, and as usual, instead of others simply countering with theirs, I was attacked. That's the game I've come to enjoy. I wouldn't have it any other way. smile.gif


QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 3 2008, 02:30 PM) [snapback]470876[/snapback]
He's a petulant wee brat who really isn't that good at what is after all a nothing sport.
Still, he's Scottish/British - let's aw support him for that. dry.gif


....for POUFFES, girls, and Jaggyphobes.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 14:37:55
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jul 3 2008, 02:33 PM) [snapback]470877[/snapback]
do you want a date with him ??

How big is his knob?
mortonjag 2008-07-03 15:16:49
QUOTE(CJTon @ Jul 3 2008, 02:07 PM) [snapback]470872[/snapback]
MJ I remained effectively quiet until a stage at which I thought the postings were getting a bit absurb and thought I would just explain what I knew to try and help clarify the situation.

The club's "need to know" approach is one that is taken by any private limited company. That is the whole point of a "private" company. Their dealings are done in private unless they wish to make them public.

I, like you, can only speculate whether AD has motive other than his current advisory role. If he has any motives it is more than likely that he is going to keep them to himself until such time as he decides to take action and wants them to become public knowledge. If I knew anymore I would certainly not be spilling the beans as I would be compromising the privleged position that I have and breaking the trust of people who mention things in confidence to me.

I certainly do not mean to be patronising on any issues and apologies if I have come across that way.

Thanks for the clarification.

I understand and endorse what you've said about confidentiality. I think things have just got to such an 'us and them' stage between the fans and the Board, that it's hard to envisage somebody who falls somewhere in between, and I apologise if I misjudged your position.

Regarding the 'need to know' comments-most fans have little interest in the inner workings of a Private Limited Company, but they were puzzled by the apparent disappearance of our new Director, especially when the club had seen fit to announce his 'arrival' with a substantial article in the local newspaper.

That was why the thread was started.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 15:35:57
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 3 2008, 03:07 PM) [snapback]470886[/snapback]
I cant stand Morris dancers! mad.gif Bloody waste of time!

I find them bizarre but have to say they are highly comical-and they DO take it so seriously.

I heard a strange story about this lady from Dunblane whose son showed promise from an early age-she'd always wanted to be a Morris dancer herself but wasn't a POUFFE, so it seemed quite a good idea to encourage the boy-but there I go digressing again.

Spanish dancing-that's a totally different kettle of fish.

mortonjag 2008-07-03 15:46:56
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 3 2008, 03:02 PM) [snapback]470883[/snapback]
Thats an awful lot of pouffes,is it not.

It certainly is-I fear the world is being taken over by POUFFES-that and FOUTONS.

At least POUFFES are reasonably out in the open these days but there's something quite sinister about FOUTONS, don't you think?
mortonjag 2008-07-03 15:51:51
QUOTE(leg-end @ Jul 3 2008, 03:33 PM) [snapback]470897[/snapback]
Has anyone had problems with the new infant strip?

Tried to get it for my boy whos 2...the 1-2 does not go over his head, so i thought try the 3-4 and its the same!

my boy does not have a big head by the way! and is the average size for a 2 year old!

cheers

Something doesn't fit. Have you e-mailed the Club?
mortonjag 2008-07-03 16:06:15 I enjoyed the day to Annan. Apart from winning, the highlight of my day was being frisked by a steward. He seemed to enjoy it too.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 16:11:30 If I try to upload a photo at the end of text and I click 'browse', I'm asked for a URL or something.

What's that all about?
mortonjag 2008-07-03 16:15:49
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Jul 3 2008, 04:10 PM) [snapback]470914[/snapback]
If your paying £40 for a t-shirt, you expect it to be of high quality.

I don't have any problems with the t-shirts I buy for a tenner, don't see why it should be any different for a football top.

Is that really the cost of an infant strip-I'm shocked-the Monkey's been wanting one for ages, but that's far too dear.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 16:25:28
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Jul 3 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]470918[/snapback]
Nah, those good soldiers just go over and kill innocent muslim civilians in the name of democracy...

Least the islamic fundamentalists have a point, unlike our government who are keeping the troops there because they have the power to do so.

One mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter... Our government are the biggest terrorists of the lot of them.

That comes to me as something of a shock-is being guilty of Islam not enough justification in itself?


Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
With the cross of Jesus going on before.
Christ, the royal Master, leads against the foe;
Forward into battle see His banners go!



Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
With the cross of Jesus going on before.

At the sign of triumph Satan’s host doth flee;
On then, Christian soldiers, on to victory!
Hell’s foundations quiver at the shout of praise;
Brothers lift your voices, loud your anthems raise.


Like a mighty army moves the church of God;
Brothers, we are treading where the saints have trod.
We are not divided, all one body we,
One in hope and doctrine, one in charity.


What the saints established that I hold for true.
What the saints believèd, that I believe too.
Long as earth endureth, men the faith will hold,
Kingdoms, nations, empires, in destruction rolled.



Crowns and thrones may perish, kingdoms rise and wane,
But the church of Jesus constant will remain.
Gates of hell can never gainst that church prevail;
We have Christ’s own promise, and that cannot fail.


Onward then, ye people, join our happy throng,
Blend with ours your voices in the triumph song.
Glory, laud and honour unto Christ the King,
This through countless ages men and angels sing.


mortonjag 2008-07-03 16:30:12
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 3 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]470921[/snapback]
Although securing jobs is fantastic news. However, I disagree that these carriers should be built in the first place.

The money would have been better spent on front line troops. Give them a decent wage and the right equipment for their safety.

I'm confused Spurtle-I thought Bawheid was in charge now.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 16:34:38
QUOTE(Muz @ Jul 3 2008, 04:30 PM) [snapback]470929[/snapback]
Here, why arent you on ignore on anymore?



QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Jul 3 2008, 04:32 PM) [snapback]470932[/snapback]
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Thank you gentlemen-I just thought some folk would like a picture of Mrs Mortonjag on her motorbike.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 16:43:16
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 3 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]470942[/snapback]
I'm confused at what you mean blink.gif

unsure.gif

Is Bawheid not the boss of Scotland?
mortonjag 2008-07-03 16:45:05
QUOTE(Muz @ Jul 3 2008, 04:43 PM) [snapback]470950[/snapback]
What's happened to my MJ ignore?

I cant do it anymore- get it sorted please!

smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-03 16:50:00
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Jul 3 2008, 04:43 PM) [snapback]470951[/snapback]
Read Doco's post, then think about what you said and proceed to acknowledge that you are a fool.

I am indeed a fool-I have never denied that.

Where does Doco mention the price of the infant strip? The thread's about infants strips-the Monkey wants one, and the only price I've seen quoted is £40, so I'll ask again-is that the cost of an infant strip? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-03 17:02:01
QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Jul 3 2008, 04:55 PM) [snapback]470962[/snapback]
calm down people

to answer your question the kids strip is £35 don't no if you can get it in long sleeve or not which would be an extra fiver

the adults short sleeve is £40 extra fiver for long sleeve

Cheers-what do you get for the price-is it top, shorts and socks?
mortonjag 2008-07-03 17:06:16
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Jul 3 2008, 04:47 PM) [snapback]470955[/snapback]
There was me thinking that bigotry was kept for the Glasgow lot only and that our wee club was exempt from that.

A sad day indeed sad.gif

rolleyes.gif


That was what you REALLY thought?
mortonjag 2008-07-03 17:09:29
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 3 2008, 04:27 PM) [snapback]470923[/snapback]
Aye, put me down please

I'd love you in Spurtle-you're a good chap really.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 17:12:09
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 3 2008, 04:50 PM) [snapback]470959[/snapback]
Defence is not devolved to Scotland....unfortunately. rolleyes.gif

Brown and Browne take all the credit for this one....

Is Bawheid happy about this?
mortonjag 2008-07-03 17:16:26
QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Jul 3 2008, 05:03 PM) [snapback]470967[/snapback]
shorts are £12 i think
Socks are £10

Thank you-it really is quite expensive. If I buy it he'll have to accept it's a Christmas and Birthday present.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 17:22:32
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Jul 3 2008, 05:09 PM) [snapback]470969[/snapback]
It was, but oh well I suppose. No need for you to cry, so wipe those wee tears away.

I hate seeing coffin dodgers crying, such a shame.

Aye very good-pull that fag oot yer avatar's glaiket mooth or he'll no be a coffin dodger for long.

And the tears have gone. thumbup2.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-03 17:32:27
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Jul 3 2008, 05:29 PM) [snapback]470985[/snapback]
MJ, if its a file you have saved on your computer click Browse and find it. Once you have found click upload. Dunno if thats how you do it but should work ph34r.gif

I've done that successfully before, but now it still wants a URL for the image!
mortonjag 2008-07-03 17:36:13
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 3 2008, 05:17 PM) [snapback]470977[/snapback]
Dunno... mellow.gif

Neither do I but I've a feeling well hear pretty soon. It's a bit of a blow for him though.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 17:47:56
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Jul 3 2008, 05:35 PM) [snapback]470991[/snapback]
Try uploading the picture to imageshack.us then copy the link from that.

TY! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-03 18:04:27
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 3 2008, 05:31 PM) [snapback]470987[/snapback]
The infant strip is top, shorts and socks £35

That's much more reasonable but still expensive. I think he deserves it though-he comes with me to every game-he is very proud of Morton.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 19:19:59
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 3 2008, 07:13 PM) [snapback]471024[/snapback]
i thought it was just you rolleyes.gif

(hard to envisage laugh.gif)

Oh dear, Alistair-there really is no end to your naughtiness. I hope CJ Ton understood. thumbdown.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-03 19:22:58
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jul 3 2008, 06:59 PM) [snapback]471016[/snapback]
not as big as your mouth !

much smaller than yours then darling! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-03 19:24:57
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Jul 3 2008, 07:06 PM) [snapback]471019[/snapback]
I don't really care how long he's a coffin dodger for, he has made plenty music already smile.gif

And with yor life you've done... unsure.gif

Not a lot crying.gif crying.gif crying.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-03 19:30:25
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 3 2008, 07:18 PM) [snapback]471027[/snapback]
Really? How old are you? My endurance seems to improve with age. biggrin.gif

laugh.gif

I reckon I peaked last month, though I confess I find music affects my concentration. I sometimes put the telly on-for instance yesterday that kid from Dunblane was on the whole way through the foreplay.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 20:47:26
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 3 2008, 08:35 PM) [snapback]471079[/snapback]
I think the expression is 'common 5-8s', which was used in relation to the work pattern of the hoi polloi who worked in the shipbuilding yards on the Clyde many moons ago. I thought you knew it all too. rolleyes.gif

You think many things Smiffy-thinking is good for you. blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-04 06:51:09
QUOTE(leg-end @ Jul 3 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]471061[/snapback]
mortonjag,

would try the strip on him before ye buy it!

laugh.gif

He doesn't mind a slightly bad fit!
mortonjag 2008-07-04 06:54:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 3 2008, 11:16 PM) [snapback]471179[/snapback]
to be published after Sugar Rae moves on ?
blink.gif

Is he buying Celtic?
mortonjag 2008-07-04 06:58:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 4 2008, 12:55 AM) [snapback]471214[/snapback]
... 9 days later.

sad.gif


We have had an answer of sorts. AD is 'out of the country', so he clearly can't pop into Golden Casket with a big wad of notes.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 07:12:45
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jul 3 2008, 10:20 PM) [snapback]471137[/snapback]
Ah, you don't know your history...

"The nations, not so blest as thee,
Must in their turn, to tyrants fall,
Must in ,must in, must in their turn, to tyrants fall,
While thou shalt flourish, shalt flourish great and free,
The dread and envy of them all."

ph34r.gif



RULE BRITTANIA

mortonjag 2008-07-04 07:15:44
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jul 3 2008, 10:37 PM) [snapback]471152[/snapback]
I’d like to complain.

I went into the Jimmy Watt for something to eat and ordered a plate of cheesy chips. The moody guy behind the bar had a Union Flag draped over his shoulders and asked if I wanted salt on that. Momentarily distracted by a ploom of smoke over the river I said why not. To my horror, the plate of cheesy chips now cost £758 due to the surcharge of 50p per grain of salt. Before I could complain 4,500 guys came into the bar looking for John of John’s Joint fame who has apparently commissioned two massive vans to be completed by 2014 and 2016. Getting the f*ck out of the now mobbed bar I was randomly hooked in the face by two guys knocking lumps out of each other on the pavement outside. One of them was wearing tiny gold pants.

Have you written to the club?
mortonjag 2008-07-04 07:20:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 4 2008, 01:45 AM) [snapback]471222[/snapback]
I have always been suspicious of leadership qualities, particularly with regard to politics.
Call me a cynic if you will but I think most 'good' leaders are motivated by power-lust and self aggrandisement. Any societal benefit that may result from their time in power is usually a spin off, occurring by accident rather than by design. Of course it's too easy to illustrate my argument with examples of despotic leaders like Hitler, Stalin, Genghis Khan, Attila the fecking Hun etc. etc. But even in the so called democratic sphere I think my argument holds good.
Consider two, fairly recent examples of strong, assertively dynamic, hugely succesful, even (some would say) charismatic leaders : Margaret Thatcher and Douglas Rae
May good fortune save us from any more of their ilk.

Seconded.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 07:23:20
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 4 2008, 06:29 AM) [snapback]471231[/snapback]
...it's because he's so tediously predictable. As soon as anything remotely 'wacky' is in the news, be sure to expect a NewTon post about it. tongue.gif wink.gif

The tedium which affects the weans on this pubic massage board is BORING.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 07:46:10
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 3 2008, 10:46 PM) [snapback]471165[/snapback]
Here's one for the Muslims

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDThe black bitch may be concerned about the possibility of foreskin.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 07:47:58 Port-ton's little pink botty takes a lot of beating.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 07:53:28
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 3 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]471112[/snapback]
I agree completely. It's the same reason I don't read Asian Babes or Red Hot 40+ at work but instead stride in with a copy of the Guardian under my arm.

Not another amputee-the place is f*ckin' full of them.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 08:01:53
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jul 3 2008, 10:16 PM) [snapback]471133[/snapback]
You didn't last long then blink.gif

laugh.gif

QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 4 2008, 06:08 AM) [snapback]471230[/snapback]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZTVYvFURcE

only one of it i could find on youtube, ignore the two arseholes. (incidentally thats exactly what the last bird i shagged said)

mad.gif Cheetah!

I was thinking it might be worth playing Hokey Cokey-for the amputees, I particularly like this verse--

You put your left leg in
Your left leg out
In, out, in, out,
shake it all about.
You do the Hokey Cokey and you turn around
That's what it's all about.


OH Hokey Cokey Cokey OH Hokey Cokey Cokey OH Hokey Cokey Cokey thumbup2.gif thumbup2.gif thumbup2.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-04 08:14:55
QUOTE(enigmaton @ Jul 4 2008, 07:54 AM) [snapback]471243[/snapback]
Only problem with this is that if you are a producer, actress or part of the lighting/sound crew in a feces eating porn trailer then the video that was posted earlier will be suitable for work.

Adding a list of suitable and unsutable occupations for each link would combat this problem.

Butcher.........NO
Baker............NO
s*** eating wh*re....YES

And so on.

Indeed, in cases of chronic constipation, many a GP has had to gently perform a manual removal of faeces-though I prefer ramming them up harder than ever.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 08:34:53
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 4 2008, 08:28 AM) [snapback]471247[/snapback]
the thought of my little pink botty made me want to spew, god knows what it'll do to anyone reading this thread.

wub.gif

You are too modest by far-what's happened to your selfish team?
mortonjag 2008-07-04 08:49:03 Our small number of female posters often puts the rest of us to shame. They'd have to have a sense of humour to come onto a male dominated pubic massage board in the first place, and they comport themselves with compassion, tolerance, and wit.

So to the forums pathetic 'wee girls', pompous knobs, frustrated cyber shaggers, power hungry imbeciles, and Port-ton, may I propose an Independence Day toast to 'THE LASSIES'.


wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-04 09:20:39
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jul 4 2008, 09:12 AM) [snapback]471257[/snapback]
So would things be different if England was joined to France by a land link? The fact that the nations on the British Isles are on an island (or rather many islands) is irrelevant. You don't see Holland asking to be in a political union with Germany (I exclude the EU because that is a different kettle of fish and in any case is a much larger grouping with far more members). The main problem with the UK is that England constitutes more than 51% of it and so in voting terms will always get its way. The other constituents have no power of veto. That is a democratic deficiency in effect.

You may say we are all British as we come from the gepgraphical land area known as the British Isles. However, that is the same as saying to a Norwegian "You are Scandinavian. You should show primary loyalty to Scandinavia". I am a Scot and I feel absolutely no shred of loyalty whatsoever to the United Kingdom (nor to the monarchy for that matter). I don't hate anyone or any other nation, but I do strongly disagree with the ridiculous notion that we should be ruled from a foreign country, which is what England is, albeit a country with which we share some elements of language and culture, and to suggest that somehow we Scots are incapable of running our own nation fully is pathetic and beneath contempt. I'd agree that if Labour was in power, that might be true as they appear to be lacking in any intelligence or ability, but the current SNP government while not perfect has done a very good job so far and has shown us all how we could have it so much better if the fearties would just get themselves a spine.

Anyway to get back to the original topic, hard luck Andy, and well done for admitting that the better player won on this occasion.

Staying on the original topic that sounds like typical Scots' paranoia!


HARD LUCK! blink.gif


He was humped rid raw by a Spanish kid-or WAIT-maybe he was a Basquet case like superbrat's Mummy. angel.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-04 09:52:04
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jul 4 2008, 09:35 AM) [snapback]471265[/snapback]
Mohandas Karamchand may be considered as a counter to this argument. Plus, he also made the flip-flop fashionable.

“When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it--always.â€

unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-04 09:54:46
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jul 4 2008, 09:46 AM) [snapback]471270[/snapback]
That's it. It's over.

Any tips on how to quit drinking?

Ask midTONs.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 09:59:09
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 4 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]471269[/snapback]
laugh.gif i started to write that in my post, then i realised what a complete perve i sounded like watching 10 videos in one day.

now you're a perve with me i don't feel bad admitting it! tongue.gif

although to be fair, most of that 10 are spent trying to find a good video as once you click play there is no going back sad.gif

laugh.gif

You need to attend a sex therapist!
mortonjag 2008-07-04 10:29:36
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jul 4 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]471300[/snapback]
why cant we add attachments to our posts? or can we and im just being a mongo unsure.gif

I asked the same question-seems you have to use imageshack or photobucket or whatever which seems daft!
mortonjag 2008-07-04 10:32:39 The monkey and Fing are having a swingers party right here from ayto clok tonight-all invited.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 11:30:17
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 4 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]471308[/snapback]
for a second i thought this thread was in the private forum and after seeing the title i thought we'd got the board shut down after less than a week.

Infants' trip?
mortonjag 2008-07-04 11:37:30
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 4 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]471320[/snapback]
its a great idea we could get our nearest station renamed Cappielow tongue.gif

Fort Matilda is already named after the club.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 11:44:55
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 4 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]471323[/snapback]
number 2 in the world, 4 times french open champion not bad for a kid rolleyes.gif

Not bad indeed for a Spanish kid who's less than eleven months older than the Scottish one.

QUOTE(RadolfZitler @ Jul 4 2008, 11:10 AM) [snapback]471327[/snapback]
Good post there Davie well 95% of it.

The snobbery is unbelievable.

What gets me is the way Murray is portrayed as being anti-English all because he did not want England to win at football. How many people in Scotland want England to win or support them? Why should he or any other Scot, we support Scotland.

I would like to know if Murray openly said he was Scottish to the entire media what their answer would be for not supporting him? Anti-Scottish?

He is being used as a political tool that’s for sure every opportunity they have they throw a union flag at him I actually feel a bit sorry for him. I also highlighted Dunblane above because I remember the comments made on his website a while back saying he should have died in the Dunblane massacre, pretty sick that.

He became a British Bulldog and hero and once Nadal chewed him up and spat him out he once again became a ginger Scottish t***.

....a much wealthier ginger Scottish t***!


Being used, or using? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-04 11:48:31
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 4 2008, 11:26 AM) [snapback]471336[/snapback]
I don't know if anyone seen QT extra that was on after it. The text comments were nothing but racist. All aimed at Gordon Brown because he is a Scot (sic).

And comments made about Scots in general. If you had substituted Scots for black or Asian the programme would have been pulled of air.

Guess a lot of daft Inglish c*nts put their munny on the kid from Dunblane! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-04 11:55:31
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 4 2008, 11:33 AM) [snapback]471339[/snapback]
i look forward to it smile.gif despite not having a clue about who he is apart from very old championship managers when he was at liverpool.

Jon Newby (born November 28, 1978 in Warrington) is an English footballer, currently without a club.
Career

A striker, known for his lightning pace, he began his career with Liverpool, and was involved in their FA Youth Cup win of 1996. He made 4 appearances for Liverpool, and was loaned out to Carlisle United (December 1999), Crewe Alexandra (March 2000), Sheffield United (August 2000), and Bury (February 2001). This final loan move was made permanent, with Bury getting him on a free transfer on March 20th, 2001. In summer 2003 he moved on to Huddersfield, but the move was not a success, and following a loan spell at York City, he returned to Bury a year later. He had a loan spell with Kidderminster Harriers during the 2005/06 season, but has since returned to Gigg Lane. "Newbs" as he is affectionately known by the Gigg Lane fans was released in May 2006 after failing to break his way back into the first team. He subsequently joined Wrexham for a short spell before leaving the club in December 2006. He joined Southport the following month[1] but was released in May after the club were relegated from the Conference National. Newby signed for Morecambe after a trial period in August 2007.

His First Professional Hat-Trick came against Rotherham United on 29 March 2008, scoring all three goals in the first half and helped Morecambe to a 5-1 Victory in a surprising good season for the club. After a great season at Morecambe where he finished joint top scorer he was released by manager Sammy Mclroy to the fans dismay.



Greacen's genitals becomes NEWBS BOOBS
mortonjag 2008-07-04 12:07:33
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 4 2008, 12:00 PM) [snapback]471346[/snapback]
so it seems Jenkins is out til a couple of weeks into the season, thats three first team players injured and we haven't even begun pre-season yet. This smaller, with more quality squad idea could turn out to be a bad move.

Nobody specifically defined what sort of quality we'd get! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-04 12:13:33
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jul 4 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]471349[/snapback]
A guy who's 30 who's spent the best part of his career in reserves and trawling around low league clubs without much success. Sounds promising.

He's got 'lightning fast' reflexes-maybe he's our new goalie.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 13:23:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 4 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]471392[/snapback]
meant for someone else but not for me sad.gif

Love was out to get me blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-04 13:28:50 It's another salary that'll have to be paid if he comes-FFS another effin striker and we've one goalie, nae full backs and nae wingers! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-04 13:38:13
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 4 2008, 12:42 PM) [snapback]471365[/snapback]
Is the squad any smaller than the last few years considering last years additions were less than successful . Seem to remember starting last season with a few injuries and having our best spell of the season .
The injuries to Harding , Greacan and Jenkins have stemmed from last season rather than any fresh problem . Obviously the hope was that the injuries would have healed with rest rather than going under the knife in some cases .
I agree that it is a risky strategy and leaves no room for errors in the signing of new players . It highlighted JM's ineptitude last season and DDFR's for that matter .
It also makes light of the financial restraints and the need for outside investment for the club .

IF we are REALLY going to progress.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 13:40:33
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jul 4 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]471372[/snapback]
Dundee to win league

Clyde + Livi for playoffs

Finish 5th


There the prophet Weegie has spoken so all other bets are now null and void biggrin.gif

Copy cat! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-04 13:43:45
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 4 2008, 01:31 PM) [snapback]471396[/snapback]
thats the way it seemed, Dissapointment (and your man boobs) haunted all my dreams.

Then you saw my face!
mortonjag 2008-07-04 13:48:39
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 4 2008, 01:43 PM) [snapback]471400[/snapback]
I've rammed many a sheep in the s***ter!

Do you like mountain goats?
mortonjag 2008-07-04 13:50:50
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jul 4 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]471359[/snapback]
Question Time went through me like a bad curry last night, which was a bit unfortunate, because I'd eaten a bad curry hours before it! One politician in particular made me feel queasier. David Cairns is such a sycophantic Brownite, and an absolute weapon to boot! Although I'm not a big fan of the Nats, I thought Nicola Sturgeon spoke very well and was the most impressive of the four politicians on the panel.

The original poster puts the boot into David Mitchell here, but I thought he spoke the most sense. His responses were intelligent, measured and had no agenda, just honest opinions as far as I remember. His comments about unfair opinion on Glasgow and Scotland were spot on, nothing ill-informed there. Hearing his thoughts was light relief from the Tories and the SNP squabbling with Labour!

Bawheid's lot always talk a good game.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 13:56:24
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Jul 4 2008, 01:53 PM) [snapback]471406[/snapback]
not sure I understand mate?

Don't even try Paddy!
mortonjag 2008-07-04 14:07:34
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 4 2008, 01:53 PM) [snapback]471408[/snapback]
Even if the share issue is a roaring success and we raise enough to upgrade the stadium there will still be a gulf in terms of playing staff .
If we are not going to get a fresh injection of real capital we at least need the performance of the corporate division to be dynamic in raising extra monies .

= Shoogly tae get aff his erse an 'dae sumpin'
mortonjag 2008-07-04 14:19:52 Following a vote at The Scottish Football League Special General Meeting held at Hampden Park today, Annan Athletic F.C. have been admitted to The Scottish Football League.

Annan Athletic admitted to SFL was posted by GMFC.
To discuss any of its subject matter further please contact Greenock Morton Football Club
mortonjag 2008-07-04 14:32:59
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 4 2008, 02:24 PM) [snapback]471419[/snapback]
Granted it may be hyperbole, but it's a s*** use of hyperbole. laugh.gif

Must do better. See me.



That's a bananagramme of Herby Pole
mortonjag 2008-07-04 14:39:06
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 3 2008, 10:25 PM) [snapback]471141[/snapback]
Aye, heading right to your house rolleyes.gif

Bothy.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 15:20:38
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jul 4 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]471440[/snapback]
''Hello, is that Greenock Morton fitba club ? i'd like to further discuss with you Annan Athletic's admission to the Scottish League'' unsure.gif

Are you really up for this?
mortonjag 2008-07-04 15:23:27
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 4 2008, 02:57 PM) [snapback]471434[/snapback]
So when the fek do you get in to this place then ???

Hopefully soon Spurtle-I have a big secret to tell you! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-04 16:02:01
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 4 2008, 03:42 PM) [snapback]471463[/snapback]
NewbysBewbys it would be.

laugh.gif

I still prefer Wakey's Walloper
mortonjag 2008-07-04 16:04:57
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 4 2008, 04:01 PM) [snapback]471475[/snapback]
Looks like I'm banned because I'm a nationalist MJ. sad.gif

Don't be a silly Billy Hamish-Mortonjag's a nationalist!

BTW that's not the secret. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-04 16:09:51
SHOOGLY SOOKS SOOR PLOOMS
mortonjag 2008-07-04 16:11:56 Mye dad sez ure an impositawr


(sined Munx)
mortonjag 2008-07-04 16:15:07
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 4 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]471481[/snapback]
Anno, but they like your brand of nationalism. They don't like mine.... rolleyes.gif

Now, now-don't let paranoia cloud your vision! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-04 16:25:53
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jul 4 2008, 03:01 PM) [snapback]471437[/snapback]
You might be a one arm manny tongue.gif

ANOTHER effin amputee-soon we normal folk won't have a leg to stand on.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 16:31:29
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jul 4 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]471428[/snapback]
Fixed it now.

TY-ya POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-07-04 16:37:27
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 4 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]471490[/snapback]
LOL, that's a great post smile.gif
For what it's worth, I think topics should be clearly labelled if they have offensive stuff in them.

I didn't think the point of this new forum was to be a porn messageboard. Personally, and strike me if you want, I think pornography has no place on a Morton website - there's plenty of other websites for that.

Certainly funny stuff or unusual stuff I can see being posted, like the stripper with the wobbly wardrobe, or something that's in poor taste, but funny/unusual?

However, random vag? Hmmm. Do we want that on here? What's the point?

I see nothing wrong with the odd pic of a fine looking filly, softcore tits and ass, but I for one am certainly uncomfy with anything harder, pardon the expression, and dunno if I really want involved in that.

A lot of people primarily look at the site in work too.
Personally, I don't think Midtons has been happy with the new forum since day one, if you look at his posts in here, and is just trying to prove a point, eventually leading to it either being wound up, or a strict no-porn rule, therefore leaving it clear for him to lobby to allow minors in, ie Deego. We aint stupid smile.gif

I thought the jobbies looked quite soft-especially the one in the glass.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 17:03:20
QUOTE(Muz @ Jul 4 2008, 04:52 PM) [snapback]471501[/snapback]
Had a bottle last night after me tea, lovely. Another tonight with dinner and probs the same tomorrow.

It was on the news yesterday that Red Wine keeps you young- now I know where I get it from smile.gif

Brasso keeps you young and sparkling.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 17:57:10
QUOTE(enigmaton @ Jul 4 2008, 05:25 PM) [snapback]471516[/snapback]
They should rename it Junkie Central rolleyes.gif

Is it a mainline station?
mortonjag 2008-07-04 17:59:35
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 4 2008, 05:32 PM) [snapback]471517[/snapback]
Good counter Mr Todd, although the Mahatma, like his disciple MLK, could not be classed as a careerist politician.
May good fortune grant us more of their ilk.

Do you want them outnumbering the cowboys Mr Edwards?
mortonjag 2008-07-04 18:04:22
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 4 2008, 05:19 PM) [snapback]471510[/snapback]
Wrong, wrong, wrong! But I laughed.

innumerate pouffe
mortonjag 2008-07-04 18:06:07
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 4 2008, 05:18 PM) [snapback]471508[/snapback]
f*** this, some random c***'s getting banned.

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mortonjag 2008-07-04 18:09:11
QUOTE(bazooka @ Jul 4 2008, 05:21 PM) [snapback]471514[/snapback]
When I'm wearing this. Breathe - Pink Floyd

Wearing WHAT?

SHOOGLY-my God Sir you ARE full of surprises.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 18:11:14
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Jul 4 2008, 03:19 PM) [snapback]471449[/snapback]
Having all four limbs.
Thankyou blush.gif

Three would be fine.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 18:23:18 I was flung into this forum by the other Mods-and who could blame them, but as a relatively old man, I have to confess I don't access porn sites (my partner's fixed some programme so I can't actually). He can be a real turd at times!

I DO have a good idea of the difference between hard core and soft porn, but folk have been getting upset at simple physiological graphics. Doing a jobby is not pornographic-FACT.

Now this IS a serious question-I don't want any piss taking or cheek-we're just about to enter a Friday evening and some of our posters may be partaking of firewater and other substances.

For example I have this wee home video of my Granny Smith being taken up the arse by the school janitor dressed as a primary two boy-it was entirely voluntary I assure you-and then there's the one of myself humping a dead hedgehog with five naked women with ENORMOUS boobs singing hymns in the background-two of them are black as well.

So-some guidance please.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 18:31:57
QUOTE(enigmaton @ Jul 4 2008, 06:24 PM) [snapback]471535[/snapback]
Sorry this reply was very vain rolleyes.gif

Don't let him needle you.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 18:34:12
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 4 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]471531[/snapback]
I have reservations.

Do they have places tepee?
mortonjag 2008-07-04 19:07:39
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 4 2008, 06:29 PM) [snapback]471536[/snapback]
As long as they are s***ting on each other, it should be ok.

Well Granny Smith was perpetually constipated before I killed her-so we're safe there, and the hedgehog was already dead. The Janny kept on his short trousers (he just opened the flies) so again I think we're covered. As for the choir girls with the gargantuan jugs-you can't really see much for tit-so that'll be kocher too.

QUOTE(enigmaton @ Jul 4 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]471551[/snapback]
"Thy Hedgehog hath died my Lord
Raise him up and eternal life to all.
Thy Mortonjag rapes his corpse
God his willy is small"

How can you RAPE a corpse-I've never once had a knock back.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 19:17:59
QUOTE(enigmaton @ Jul 4 2008, 06:59 PM) [snapback]471557[/snapback]
Why did the girl fall off the swing?
Because she had no arms.

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Was she a soldier?
mortonjag 2008-07-04 19:48:06
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 4 2008, 07:43 PM) [snapback]471565[/snapback]
He was certainly the best journalist that ever worked for the BBC. More importantly, he was probably the best TV journalist the world has seen to date.



Indeed!


Sir Charles Cornelius Wheeler CMG (born Selwyn Charles Cornelius-Wheeler on March 15, 1923,[1] died on July 4, 2008)[2] was a British journalist and broadcaster. Having joined the BBC in 1947, he became the corporation's longest serving foreign correspondent, serving in the role until his death. Wheeler also had spells as presenter of several BBC current affairs television programmes including Newsnight and Panorama.



Early life

Wheeler was born in Bremen, Germany in 1923.[3] Educated at Cranbrook School in Kent, his first job was as an errand boy at the Daily Sketch newspaper at the age of 17.[4] He enlisted in the Royal Marines in 1942[2] and later participated in the Normandy Landings as part of a secret naval intelligence unit.[5]

Career

Wheeler's long career involved postings to Berlin, Delhi and Washington, D.C. In the later years of his career he was the American correspondent of Newsnight. He was the first presenter of BBC World's Dateline London discussion programme. He remained active in his later years as a presenter of documentary series on Radio 4.

He was appointed a CMG in 2001, and was knighted in the 2006 Birthday Honours, for services to broadcasting and journalism overseas. Wheeler was married to Dip Singh, of Sikh Indian descent, whose daughters are the barrister Marina Wheeler, the wife of the Mayor of London Boris Johnson and Shirin Wheeler, the BBC's Brussels correspondent.[6]

In June 2006 Charles Wheeler announced he had discovered that a painting by Alessandro Allori of Eleonora of Toledo, the wife of Cosimo de Medici, which had been given to him in Berlin as a wedding present in 1952, had been looted during World War II. Via the Commission for Looted Art in Europe it was returned to its legitimate owner, the Gemäldegalerie of Berlin from whose possession it had been absent since 1944.[7]

Wheeler died of lung cancer on 4 July 2008.[2]
mortonjag 2008-07-04 19:50:32
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 4 2008, 07:46 PM) [snapback]471566[/snapback]
I wonder how Black and Asian Scots feel.

Scottish?
mortonjag 2008-07-04 20:04:19
QUOTE(enigmaton @ Jul 4 2008, 07:25 PM) [snapback]471563[/snapback]
Don't you feel a bit of a p***k when hedgehog humping?

I only shag genetically bald hedgehogs-I have a lifelong interest in genetic engineering and am currently working on a frog with an anus the size of a fifty pence piece, but perfectly round.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 20:11:19
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 4 2008, 07:56 PM) [snapback]471571[/snapback]
Siggy thumbup2.gif

I find this all a bit disrespectful to betty and the chook of embra-are you suggesting that her Majesty is a loose woman?
mortonjag 2008-07-04 20:34:57
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 4 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]471573[/snapback]
I'm sure they do at that.

Indeed, and without an unhealthy and ingrained paranoia about thae effin Inglish.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 20:38:23
QUOTE(mortonboi @ Jul 4 2008, 08:30 PM) [snapback]471578[/snapback]
do you thing it might be on the website later on the night

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mortonjag 2008-07-04 20:47:26
QUOTE(mortonboi @ Jul 4 2008, 08:44 PM) [snapback]471583[/snapback]
guess ats a naw

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mortonjag 2008-07-04 20:50:54 I had a friend who worked offshore at the time. I remember talking to him some time later, and he commented that you could tell the impact it had on the country because the usual 'sick' jokes didn't start appearing until a couple of months after the incident.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 20:58:01
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 4 2008, 06:48 PM) [snapback]471554[/snapback]
Not at all. You could definately be a c***. biggrin.gif

cr*b?
mortonjag 2008-07-04 21:12:00
QUOTE(mortonboi @ Jul 4 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]471588[/snapback]
its a load of crap till he is officially a morton player!!!

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mortonjag 2008-07-04 21:17:27
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 4 2008, 08:57 PM) [snapback]471586[/snapback]
no, mortonjag, this thread is just for you

Really Alistair-the thread was actually dedicated to our lady posters-I'm sure they will have something sensible to say when they've given due consideration to the matter-an example you'd do well to follow.

I'm monkey sitting BTW-what are you up to-not the same old w**k Baileys w**k routine, I hope!
mortonjag 2008-07-04 21:21:50
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Jul 4 2008, 09:17 PM) [snapback]471594[/snapback]
MJ thats an interesting comment you made there about the jokes. You wonder though had mobile phones been as widespread 2o years ago as they were today would the jokes been out much quicker? However I seem to recall when London was bombed a couple of years ago and Glasgow last year it took a while.

They probably would, but there was definitely a period of frozen shock. Jim was a great guy-an engineer who used to have to fly out by chopper at a moment's notice in the worst of weathers. Sadly died of cancer in his mid forties.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 21:27:09
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 4 2008, 06:44 PM) [snapback]471552[/snapback]
They don't need a comb? unsure.gif

.....unless they're VERY vain!
mortonjag 2008-07-04 21:33:56
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Jul 4 2008, 09:27 PM) [snapback]471596[/snapback]
But then Doogie could claim it was a senior moment so he didn't mean it tongue.gif

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Of course he could-so that'll be 1,789 senior moments last season!
mortonjag 2008-07-04 21:37:33
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 4 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]471602[/snapback]
In fact DDF did apologise for what he said in the aftermath of the McInally resignation.

McLaughlin is an absolute dick who probably can't spell apologise.

I'm not disputing that but----


LINK?
mortonjag 2008-07-04 21:42:36
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 4 2008, 09:33 PM) [snapback]471600[/snapback]
is that what you're doing? ohmy.gif

What a silly question-are you losing those youthful marbles?

I'm monkey sitting-it's very pleasant-we've been chatting for ages about what's wrong at the club and how it could be remedied. The Monkey favours conciliation, while Fing has other ideas.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 21:45:55
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 4 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]471598[/snapback]
Simply not true but if there is to be any point to this forum then you should not need to post warnings every time you post something that might not be work safe, the warning should be when you enter the forum that you do so at your own risk. Ive explained why warnings wont work but some people just don't want to listen, like I said to Boozie earlier, what you worried about, in case you have nothing to pass the time at work. I'll post what I want when I want and no c*** will stop me unless they ban me but that would go completely against the grain of which the forum was opened for.

But you DID endorse pictures of jobbies.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 21:51:03
QUOTE(mortonboi @ Jul 4 2008, 09:36 PM) [snapback]471603[/snapback]
wit

wit whit?
mortonjag 2008-07-04 21:57:12
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 4 2008, 09:52 PM) [snapback]471611[/snapback]
Was it not in a match programme? Around a month after the fact. I'm not at home so I can't go through my programmes otherwise I would.

Edit: It's here - helpfully labled "APOLOGY" - http://www.gmfc.net/chairman/news-view.asp?id=38

I have a vague recollection that he attempted some kind of retraction by suggesting that he had not been aiming at ALL the fans!
mortonjag 2008-07-04 21:59:18
QUOTE(mortonboi @ Jul 4 2008, 09:55 PM) [snapback]471612[/snapback]
wits em words mean

Ask Chrissiboi-I'm SURE I understood!
mortonjag 2008-07-04 22:13:46
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Jul 4 2008, 10:08 PM) [snapback]471622[/snapback]
Ditto smile.gif
Whit?????? mad.gif
Can you spank a monkey? tongue.gif

Indeed-but I may not! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-04 22:16:24
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 4 2008, 10:01 PM) [snapback]471619[/snapback]
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I STILL cannot post pictures of us together darling-I sense a conspiracy.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 22:21:41
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 4 2008, 09:17 PM) [snapback]471593[/snapback]
Sad stuff. I wonder what he thought of the modern crop of corporate fluffers that pass for TV journalists these days.



QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 4 2008, 10:03 PM) [snapback]471620[/snapback]
Compare the current crop of diddies with him and you see why the Beeb's in s***e.



QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 4 2008, 10:11 PM) [snapback]471625[/snapback]
A giant amongst pygmies is an appropriate comparison.

Gentlemen, it has not escaped my attention that you are all of a certain age.

Live and let live-accept mediocrity-there is no point in objection to the new cyber age of uneducated buffoonery and shagging/bribing ones way to the 'top'.

Can it be that it was all so simple then?
mortonjag 2008-07-04 22:24:25
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 4 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]471621[/snapback]
Yes, there was no small measure of mitigation, and you can most certainly debate its value, yet it was an apology tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-04 22:27:19
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 4 2008, 09:48 PM) [snapback]471609[/snapback]
I thought pictures of s*** complemented this forum well.


If you're calling me a jobby-consider yourself a jobby pouffe.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 22:30:24
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 4 2008, 10:01 PM) [snapback]471618[/snapback]
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i set them up for you and you know 'em out the park. what a team!

You are a winsome, smart, and devious young man.

Answer the question-are you partial to mountain goats-cos if you are-we're finished.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 22:34:06
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 4 2008, 10:25 PM) [snapback]471630[/snapback]
davie, u really
, really want to lighten up a bit mate.... you only agree when someone posts exactly what u want to hear. we'd be here forever and a day if that was to be the case. i dare say u and i could be lumped into a very loose coalition but personally i'd be petiioning to get u launched cos yer a pompous arse. smile.gif there's more than one way to skin a cat. ya t***. wink.gif
???? dont know why i quoted this cos its bunkum whichever way u look at it

it seems it's small minded to be scottish but absolutely fair game if yer parochialism extends to the british state.....make yer minds up u unionist c***s eh???? eu bananas etc etc etc

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mortonjag 2008-07-04 22:49:52
QUOTE(plookheid @ Jul 4 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]471641[/snapback]
I've been a member for ages and I'm also a lady-i like mortonjag -he makes good points and this is an example

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mortonjag 2008-07-04 22:52:56
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 4 2008, 10:45 PM) [snapback]471640[/snapback]
The Dream - Coralling of You

POUFFE CELEBRE
mortonjag 2008-07-04 22:56:26
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 4 2008, 10:53 PM) [snapback]471645[/snapback]
i think my incontinence knickers are about to burst laugh.gif

Dream on my friend-they are about to explode. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-04 22:59:21
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 4 2008, 10:56 PM) [snapback]471649[/snapback]
there ye go

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mortonjag 2008-07-04 23:03:37
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jul 4 2008, 10:55 PM) [snapback]471647[/snapback]
Two old boys next to each other in the Intesive Care Unit....

First old boy lifts his oxygen mask and says..

'Wullie'

Second only boy lifts his oxygen mask and says..

'Paddy'

First boy lifts his oxygen mask and says..

'Glasgow'

Second boy lifts his oxygen mask and says..

'Dublin'

First boy lifts his oxygen mask and says..

'Cancer'

Second boy lifts his oxygen mask and says..

'Scorpio'

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mortonjag 2008-07-04 23:06:26 25/ Admission should be free to all except huffy dwarves and bouncersprogs.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 23:10:00
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Jul 4 2008, 11:01 PM) [snapback]471654[/snapback]
now Im A Believer

Not a trace of doubt in my mind!
mortonjag 2008-07-04 23:12:55
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 4 2008, 10:59 PM) [snapback]471653[/snapback]
mortonjag said "accept mediocrity"

rotflmfao

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Saves you shagging the parrot!
mortonjag 2008-07-04 23:20:20
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 4 2008, 11:12 PM) [snapback]471660[/snapback]
sorry, doesn't mcscan

Have another Baileys darling-a big one this time!
mortonjag 2008-07-04 23:24:50
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 4 2008, 11:17 PM) [snapback]471664[/snapback]
accept mediocrity
accept mediocrity
accept mediocrity
accept mediocrity
accept mediocrity

as you see, it didn't tongue.gif

That was you-fool-yer parrot's an ex-parrot and the Polis ken.

No comment-no comment-no comment -no comm...........TTHUDDDDDD
mortonjag 2008-07-04 23:38:20
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 4 2008, 11:29 PM) [snapback]471672[/snapback]
I'll accept chaos before mediocrity. One's age has got feck all to do with anything, rather one's state of mind is everything. And it was never simple then, just as it isn't now. There were, and always will be those who would/will shag/bribe/cheat their way to the top. Nothing new under the Sun and blah fecking blah and all that. What's the point? The answer? I don't know.... and I don't believe anybody who says that they do know.

CUE-Alistair wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-04 23:43:49
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 4 2008, 11:26 PM) [snapback]471670[/snapback]
is that what you call it, big boy? :titter:

LOOK you-I resent that 'big boy' stuff-I've been peacefully babysitting the monkey all night, and all you've given us is grief-from your sadly remote and God forsaken hole near Wombledung. You're a jobby and a POUFFE, but mostly a POUFFE.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 23:49:25
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 4 2008, 11:45 PM) [snapback]471682[/snapback]
Go easy on the pancakes then, ya fat b*****d. laugh.gif

I hadn't a clue about the obesity.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 07:46:51 From the Herald

The British public overwhelmingly expects violent crime to get worse over the next year and has little faith in politicians to halt it, according to a new poll.

More than eight-out-of-10 (83%) people questioned said they had become more concerned about knife crime over the past 12 months and a similar number (82%) said they expected violent crime to increase over the next year.

The poll, by ComRes for BBC2's The Daily Politics show, was published as it was revealed the 18th teenager to meet a violent death in London this year had called out for his mother shortly after being stabbed and beaten.
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Shakilus Townsend, 16, was attacked by a gang just after 2pm on Thursday in south-east London.

A witness said he had asked for his mother and cried "I don't want to die" as he lay bleeding in the street. He died in St George's Hospital, Tooting, just after midnight on the day he was stabbed.

The poll also came as detectives revealed the killer of two French students who were bound, gagged and stabbed to death in a bedsit in south London last Sunday may have died for the sake of two handheld games consoles, which were stolen.

Laurent Bonomo and Gabriel Ferez, both 23, were found with more than 240 stab wounds.

The savage murder of the bio-chemistry students came just over a month after Glasgow was stunned by the murders of soft drinks sales consultant Moira Jones, 40, originally from England, and trainee restaurant manageress Eleni Pachou, 25, from Greece.

Meanwhile, police are hunting three black teenagers who ambushed Shakilus, known as Shaki to his friends, before they stabbed him in the chest and beat his head.

The teenager was attacked by a masked gang armed with knives and baseball bats in Thornton Heath, south London, and the youths had pulled up their hoods and covered their faces in bandanas.

Police also want to trace a black girl, in her mid-teens and wearing a floral dress, who stood back with up to eight others and watched the sickening attack. Officers have recovered two knives, one of which was described by a witness as 18-inches long.

The detective leading the investigation said it was "another senseless incident in which a young life has been taken away by a knife".

Residents spoke yesterday of how they desperately tried to save Shakilus as blood poured from his chest. Dee Bamina, 35, attempted to stem the bleeding with a bath towel after another neighbour took him into the communal doorway of her block of flats.

She said: "I think a group of boys must have been after the boy. All I heard was them saying, Get him from the other side'. I tried to ask his name and tell him to calm down and lie down because he was trying to get up and go."

She said the boy was saying "where's my mum, I want my mum".

The 16-year-old told her he did not know his attackers.

Detective Chief Inspector Cliff Lyons, who is heading the inquiry, said the attackers were not believed to be from the area because they ran off in different directions looking for a way to escape.

Witness Richard Higgins, 17, said: "I thought he had tripped at first then I saw the knife. It was a big kitchen knife, maybe 18 inches.

"He had stab wounds on his stomach and one big, long wound on his chest."

A 17-year-old boy who lives near where Shakilus was killed said stabbings were common.

"If he hadn't died, no one would have cared about this, it would have just been another stabbing," he said.

"How are the police or the government going to be able to sort this out if we as kids don't know why this sort of stuff's going on?"

The attack on Shakilus came as three teenagers appeared in court in the north of the city accused of stabbing 16-year-old Ben Kinsella to death last weekend.

In separate incidents, Tunisian Hamouda Bessaad, 34, was stabbed to death in Old Kent Road on Monday, while Dee Willis, 28, died after a knife attack in Peckham the following day.

Metropolitan Police Deputy Commissioner Paul Stephenson is heading up a 75-man taskforce dedicated to targeting gang members.

He said tackling knife crime was the force's "number one priority
"


The solution is there and it's cheap and effective-birch first offenders. It's little pink botty time folks.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 07:57:35
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jul 5 2008, 12:08 AM) [snapback]471701[/snapback]
I think it's a poor reflection of this board that our new signing has yet to be wished all the best on cyberspace!

Best of luck in a Morton jersey, Jon. I hope we see a few goals from you this season!

Please don't judge this guy before you have seen him at least half a dozen times. I can imagine the usual suspects will be on here straight away saying he's the "worst signing ever" after only getting two goals on his debut.

If we can get the goalkeeper sorted then I would be happy that we have the minimum number of players. A couple more wouldn't go amiss, but I now feel we have reasonable strength in depth for next season, though I would be concerned if either McAlister or Finlayson got injured because we don't really have a replacement who would put in the same work as either of those two players.

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QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 5 2008, 12:14 AM) [snapback]471707[/snapback]
He signed for Morton earlier today. cool.gif

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QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 5 2008, 12:15 AM) [snapback]471709[/snapback]
why would we wish someone who hasn't signed for us yet all the best? i've been f***ed over by too many players i've gave my heart to only for them to sign for another team at the last minute, i couldn't handle it again so until he's signed he's just another rumour to me, a nobody.


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QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 5 2008, 12:21 AM) [snapback]471715[/snapback]
i could never stomach chocolate milk - chocolte or milk, but not chocolate milk


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QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 5 2008, 12:24 AM) [snapback]471718[/snapback]
Ye of little faith! You'll just need to take my word for it for the moment. rolleyes.gif

Why should the common 5/8ths accept a word you say Smiffy-are you Alistair Donald in Oz and half a day ahead of us?

QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 5 2008, 12:32 AM) [snapback]471723[/snapback]
ohmy.gif you need to have a word with your stomach, tell it to stop being such a p***y! you're missing out.

Alistair's stomach mirrors his other feline facets
mortonjag 2008-07-05 08:03:43 Port-ton, if you're going to Threave
You'll see what 'those boys' can achieve
Our quality squad's
Been funded by God
Or so some would have us believe
mortonjag 2008-07-05 08:07:23 I thought love was more or less a given thing.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 08:10:02 I'm very positive about the coming season and predict we'll finish 5th.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 08:18:11
QUOTE(El gofer @ Jul 5 2008, 04:00 AM) [snapback]471753[/snapback]
Sires, for caws and forza are always sires in my eyes...
good call you couple a steamers.....!!! I toast you both!!!



'Toast'-I'll f*ckin' barbecue them if I get my hands on the cheeky wee knobs.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 08:22:45
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 5 2008, 12:09 AM) [snapback]471702[/snapback]
I would love to have hair like Randy's (the guy on the right.)

Rub dripping all over your chest at night after you've removed your bra.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 08:26:15
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 4 2008, 11:53 PM) [snapback]471692[/snapback]
Alistair who?

Alistair Trumpet
mortonjag 2008-07-05 08:30:32
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jul 5 2008, 08:00 AM) [snapback]471776[/snapback]
On The Wright Stuff yesterday they touched on the subject. Wright told a story about when he was on holiday in Dubai. He left his camera in a bar and when he remembered where it was he returned to the bar to see if it was still there. It hadn't moved an inch. He attributed this to the harsh regime in the country and posed the question "Did we really want to live in a crime free society when the punishments would be regarded by some westerners as extreme?" YES!!!!

Not so extreme as the escalating violence on our streets!

How long will it be before we see vigilantes doing what politicians are afraid to mention.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 08:38:05
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 4 2008, 11:25 PM) [snapback]471669[/snapback]
i sure do! once im in the mood they never stand a chance, like lambs to the slaughter.

You horny, capricious little toad-but I still love you. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-05 08:42:33
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 5 2008, 03:48 AM) [snapback]471747[/snapback]
Didn't take long for me to get completely pissed off with this s***. I'm banning everyone, apart from TiD. And maybe El Gofer.



EH!

El gopher-the insatiable coprophagist.

I want more jobby videos.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 08:47:57
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 5 2008, 08:14 AM) [snapback]471780[/snapback]
MJ its sunny and warm and a beautiful day
Relax , watch the tennis since there's no Andy Murray
Just for one day please give it a rest
and get off the back of my poor Dougie Rae sad.gif



It's dull and overcast up here
as if you didn't know my Dear
and sure as Jordan's tits are joogly
I'll keep on humping poor Auld Shoogly.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 08:54:03
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 5 2008, 08:47 AM) [snapback]471789[/snapback]
Gotta agree with Dr Jag on this one.

Also I'm not too concerned about the number of pre-season games as it's give us a chance to try out a few trialists as well as giving the whole squad match practice.

If we have approx 6 trialists then most of the squad will only play 4 or 5 games and some of them might be bit part appearances.

Including the youths how many of a squad do we have 23 ??

It's beginning to look as though DI has cut his cloth as best he can-we're going to be very hard to beat-I doubt if we'll see much attractive football, and for me that will be a big disappointment, but at least we won't have a repeat of last season's jellyfish joke.

Share issue's in place and hopefully we'll have an SPL compliant stadium in a couple of seasons-the jigsaw puzzle's filling up nicely.

All we need now is money and a change of leadership.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 08:58:20
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 5 2008, 08:52 AM) [snapback]471791[/snapback]
Welcome to last week for me ! It's early days I know, but I think the naysayers who were dead against this forum when it was being set up are being proved correct with every passing day and the increasing number of peurile topics.
I thought once the novelty of being allowed to say pretty much anything had worn off, this forum would bed in to somewhere you could really go to town on meaty topics or heavy slaggings or good patter.

To date it's done none of that. Which is a shame really.

As I said it IS early days - so I live in hope.

TonInDublin

Stop talkin' mince ya oirish POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-07-05 09:11:49 Right guys-I've already started a thread on the adult forum, but I wonder if the weans can also discuss crime and punishment, without boasting about their sexual conquests and preferred porno sites.

I have absolutely no time for corporal punishment being against some daft law passed by PC POUFFES in Brussels.

Neither am I interested in all the old excuses about gratuitous thrashings of innocent children by sexually frustrated schoolmasters.

Most of all I believe that the human rights of the law abiding should always precede the perceived rights of vermin.

It's well documented that crime rates are low where beatings, amputations of offending limbs, and even ritual stoning are accepted practice.

I don't believe I'm condoning anything quite so 'barbaric' when I plead that common sense prevail, and we re-introduce some form of physical deterrent to the most brutal and mindless types of offence.



mortonjag 2008-07-05 09:18:06
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 5 2008, 09:12 AM) [snapback]471801[/snapback]
I agree. Thought the novelty of posting s*** would have worn off by now.

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Now, now Madam-we little ones will never tire of posting sh*t. Indeed I couldn't sleep last night because that Bernadette next door was playing her bloody Rosemary Clooney music again, so I've just popped a humungous keech through her letterbox.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 09:41:14
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jul 5 2008, 09:23 AM) [snapback]471805[/snapback]
I disagree. Show me a judicial system that works 100% of the time and I might consider. Some things that I do believe in:

Life should mean life;
Tougher sentences for first offenders;
Proper attempts at rehabilitation whilst incarcerated;
Tougher regimes in jails, whilst taking the other points into consideration.

I understand that crime rates in countries with death penalties are higher than here. Ever been to Texas?

Do you believe that birching first offenders ( indiscriminate stabbing) would increase offending by those folk?
mortonjag 2008-07-05 09:44:26
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 5 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]471807[/snapback]
Woman don't have the right to demand anything!
i would just like to point out this is the views of www.greenockmorton.org/forum and its owners and is not shared by Port-ton or his affiliates.

wub.gif


What a lovely euphemism for humpees.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 09:59:59
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 5 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]471814[/snapback]
Attractive football is overrated. tongue.gif wink.gif

Unattractive football is overrated and sadly all too common those days.

Attractive football draws in the crowds and MUNNY.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 10:02:03
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 5 2008, 09:45 AM) [snapback]471816[/snapback]
Threave Castle was built by the son of one of the most fearsome knights in Europe, The Black Douglas.
The "Good" Sir James Douglas as he was known in Scotland, was Robert the Bruce's most trusted and loyal knights.
The Douglas motto "Jamais arrière" (never behind) was because this fearsome warrior always went into battle ahead of his men.
When the Bruce died, Sir James took his heart to fight in the Crusades. He died enroute in Teba, Spain fighting the Moors.
The Douglas family became one of the most powerful families in Scotland. His son Archibald the Grim built Threave Castle and died in 1400.

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDAnother POUFFE by the sound of it.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 10:04:47
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Jul 5 2008, 09:49 AM) [snapback]471818[/snapback]
Is Collins still an ass? blink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-05 10:07:35
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jul 5 2008, 08:56 AM) [snapback]471793[/snapback]
Looks like you are spot on princess. Have to say though I have a feeling that Nadal might win tomorrow. He has been really strong recently.

Yip-I fancy a wee double on Nadal and Lewis Hamilton.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 10:13:40
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jul 5 2008, 09:33 AM) [snapback]471808[/snapback]
when the day comes that i have faith in the judicial system in getting the right person for the crime then this maybe an option, until then, no chance.

It's GOT to be a percentages game-SIMPLE.





QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jul 5 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]471820[/snapback]
28th July 2002 - The Guardian

"The Lord Chancellor's Department's statistics on successful appeals against criminal conviction show that in the decade 1989-1999 the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division) abated over 8,470 criminal convictions - a yearly average of 770. In addition, there are around 3,500 quashed criminal convictions a year at the Crown Court for convictions obtained at the magistrates' courts."
Thats a lot of people that would be wrongly birched! our entire criminal justice system needs to be looked at and reformed. then, if appropriate i would back longer sentances or harsher punishments..

And how many of those successful appeals were simply because the prosecution had not put the case together properly? A successful appear is NOT a statement of innocence.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 10:21:39
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 5 2008, 09:47 AM) [snapback]471817[/snapback]
Wow, a serious thread - how I've missed you !!!!!

I have to confess to being a wee bit of a mongrel when it comes to this subject MJ.

I would absolutely be FOR corporal punishment, both in schools and in society - especially the use of the birch for the scum who continually pester the life out of decent people - ASBO's me hole.

But I'm 100% against capital punishment, for the obvious reasons of making a mistake.

Apart from that I tend to sympathise with you and TAFKAC ........ and would fall on the conservative side of punishment.

Anyone who carries a knife should get jail time, and a decent chunk of it - at LEAST three years.
Anyone who carries a knife then uses it to to take a life should get life with a minimum 20 years.
Anyone who tampers with children should get at least 10 years - regardless the "severity" - and up to life depending on the frequency or the nature of the crime.
Anyone who abuses and kills a child should get life to mean life, no exceptions.

I'm not in favour of limb removal or any such barbarity but I would be in favour of chemical castration for sex offenders.

Discuss ......

TonInDublin

Matthew 18.9


And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.

It's a Christian principle, and it's actually a kindness to those people.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 10:45:14
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jul 5 2008, 10:36 AM) [snapback]471835[/snapback]
you would probably look at it from a different angle if you had also been convicted of a crime you never committed.

how do you judge "balance of probability?". is it someones previous record, the area they were spotted in etc? if so you are looking at lynching the wrong people on a hell of a lot of occasions, giving the police far too much credit for being able to pick the right man. Sometimes, its easy for them just to get an arrest to close a case and in their own admission, they are under pressure to close cases that can lead to wrongful arrest.

Vigilante action has been and will continue to be carried out for a long time, its nothing new and its paper scare talk saying that people "may" or its a possibility of resorting to vigilante action. its been happening for years and most of us have taken part or witnessed it happening.

On point number 4.. i agree with you and am in the same position regarding the child. Although nothing has ever changed that, ive not had enough.. i would have always kicked someones arse for hurting my child.. it has not come to this.

Im not disputing that there are loads of clear cut cases out there that the criminal is not getting punishment to match the crime. What i would not back is an across the board approach were there could be doubt in some of the convictions leading to the old miscarriage of justice.

If it was as simple as "A" stabs "B", "A" is as guilty as charged... yes throw the book at "A". unfortunately not every case is as simple, thus a change in rulings to effect every case is not the answer without a reform to the entire justice system.

Do you believe that-for example- birching of PROVEN BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT knife offenders would have a deterrent effect not only on them but on others who might have considered carrying a weapon?
mortonjag 2008-07-05 11:39:57
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jul 5 2008, 11:00 AM) [snapback]471838[/snapback]
MJ,

I believe that common sense should prevail, without implementing a law that would effect everycase across the board.

I don't believe that birching any offender would have a positive effect, if our society becomes violent we will breed more violence.

Tho.. to answer your point i do not think that the way the courts are dealing with knifes and knife crime in general are adequete to deter offenders the way it is currently set up. (i have experience of working with Young people who have been in an out the court system for these crimes for a number of years).

As i have clearly said, there should be more adequate punishment to suit the crime, i do not despute this. What i am 100 percent against is a knee jerk reaction and red rag rage to introduce minimum sentances across the board when not all the cases are clear cut.

wait til the ropes drooped round your neck midtons!.. you may have a change of heart on that suggestion happy.gif

If you want to fling in personal experiences, I have frequently seen at first hand, not only the physical results of indiscriminate stabbings, but the huge knock on effect they have on extended families. I personally know someone who works for the SCCRC-he assures me that a HIGH proportion of successful appeals are the result of procedural inadequacies, rather than any proof of innocence.

I take issue with your comments about 'our society becoming more violent-thus breeding more violence'. It's one of those regularly touted 'social worker' myths which folk latch onto with rarely a thought! The law and 'our society' are surely two separate entities.

Which is preferable-a 'short sharp and effective shock' and sending homeward to think again, or chucking the brats into jail to further their apprenticeship at huge public expense. Indeed, even that has now been forsaken in favour of 'Fiscal fines'-one of the biggest cops out in the history of the Scottish Legal System, and a total indictment of our present Government at Holyrood.

Birching the little brats is a cheap and cost effective deterrent. Let's get on with TRUE common sense!
mortonjag 2008-07-05 11:46:15
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jul 5 2008, 11:24 AM) [snapback]471848[/snapback]
As if anybody needed proof that High Court judges are away wae the fairies! They're f***in crisps yer Honour! rolleyes.gif

I'd suggest that Pringles are Pommes de terre POUFFES.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 11:49:29
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 5 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]471843[/snapback]
I'd like Scott to answer that too, bearing in mind he'll be bawdeep by in Collins by October. laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-05 11:51:27
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jul 5 2008, 11:34 AM) [snapback]471849[/snapback]
It seemed the more I gave, the less I got.

What's the use of trying-all you get is pain! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-05 11:53:33
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jul 5 2008, 11:44 AM) [snapback]471852[/snapback]
You can be physical and still play attractive football.

That is indisputable!
mortonjag 2008-07-05 11:55:38
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 5 2008, 11:46 AM) [snapback]471854[/snapback]
The common 5-8s can believe what they like - unlike you MJ, I know what I'm talking about. laugh.gif laugh.gif

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What's the most common complication of a ruptured appendix?
mortonjag 2008-07-05 12:02:18
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 5 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]471846[/snapback]
Violence breeds violence.
How many times has the senile Jag and MidTONs came up with the same argument on here over the past fecking year anyway? blink.gif
I'm not cheeky lorry man - I'm just right. happy.gif

Namby pamby parenting, a wishy washy self perpetuating 'social services', and gutless politicians breed violent brats who KNOW they can get off with murder.

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 5 2008, 11:48 AM) [snapback]471856[/snapback]
The same "short sharp" shocks that bred Hitler and Stalin?

Did somebody spank their little pink botties for stabbing folk? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-05 12:05:50
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 5 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]471862[/snapback]
Clint Eastwood

You only knew because I told you.

What is the most common cause of gynaecomastia?
mortonjag 2008-07-05 12:08:26
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 5 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]471867[/snapback]
Which is why I'm happy Millar's left. happy.gif

Midge might well have complemented the current squad.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 12:10:57
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 5 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]471845[/snapback]
Why ?

Why whit?

Oh and BTW Spurtle-there's an impostor who has registered using your name! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-05 12:23:32
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 5 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]471869[/snapback]
No, although Stalin was placed in 9 seperate exile communities for various crimes.
Of course psychologists agree that voilent punishment particularly from an early age causes real mental damage to the victim yet Dr Mentaljag sees things differently, under his raving mad slevvering Daily-Mail right wing persona.
Methinks your argument is perfect for "General Nonsense". happy.gif

Methinks you should come back when you can talk from personal experience son.

If you're only on this thread for a good old argument, by all means enjoy that, but stop quoting selected excerpts from your chosen reading material, as though they are perceived wisdom.

Dr Mentaljag is politically neither right, left, or centre because Dr Mentaljag is able to think for himself and reach conclusions based on personal experience. Dr Mentaljag would happily birch all politicians.

Learn from your elders and betters young man, instead of arguing with them. Folk who argue with their elders and betters should be birched too.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 12:33:43
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 5 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]471871[/snapback]
sorry, my specialist subject is Susan Sarandon films from 1992-2001

OK-where was Susan Sarandon's liver situated?
mortonjag 2008-07-05 12:37:59
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 5 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]471879[/snapback]
Mortonjag agrees - argument has been lost by the other side. happy.gif

What are you blabbering about now?

Into your high chair with you-Mummy has opened a nice tin of alphabet soup.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 12:47:18
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jul 5 2008, 12:16 PM) [snapback]471875[/snapback]
I honestly don't know. I agree with TiD that corporal punishment should be allowed in schools, but that there should be age limit. Following that train of argument logically would probably have me against birching. But as I say, I don't know.

It's refreshing to get an honest answer.

Many people are dead against corporal punishment just because they find the concept repugnant, and are happy to espouse the pronouncements of others without real thought.

That is why I believe it's important to consider the VICTIMS of violent crime as more accurately representative of normal society than the perpetrators.

Furthermore-there is choice-if you don't want birched don't carry a blade. Simple really.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 12:52:39
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 5 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]471877[/snapback]
Why have I been banned from entry into the forum ?

And there is only one Spurtle !

I don't think you've been banned-they probably haven't got to the 'esses' yet, and anyway you ain't missing too much so far. The main advantage seems to be that you can call somebody a POUFFE without getting a three day ban! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-05 12:59:55
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 5 2008, 12:32 PM) [snapback]471882[/snapback]
Alas, the old ageist patronisation comes through at last. laugh.gif
You're not better than me or anyone on this site, you've just got a jumped up opinion of your own self-worth that you choose to smear over the forum day after day without cease.
General Practitioner I presume - good to know that your psychological analysis is deemed greater than that of the experts in the field, eh?

My humble apologies-I could have sworn you were just a not too bright wean with an inflated self worth and an unhealthy disrespect for his elders and betters.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 13:06:48
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 5 2008, 01:03 PM) [snapback]471896[/snapback]
Naa, but the Turks thought it was a Delight ph34r.gif
I'll get that coat

I never had you down as a fudge packer Gibby-you've gone WAY UP in my estimation.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 13:09:38
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 5 2008, 12:55 PM) [snapback]471894[/snapback]
Esses ?? blink.gif

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OOPS- I forgot some folk call you Colkitto-well I still don't believe for a minute you're banned when I see some of those who managed in! huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-05 13:12:27
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 5 2008, 01:10 PM) [snapback]471899[/snapback]
He'll be 10 times worse! laugh.gif

mad.gif

Right you-bend over-you're about to be birched bummed.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 13:37:10
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Jul 5 2008, 01:23 PM) [snapback]471903[/snapback]
So one day we get to the age when we all come to the same conclusions because there's only one conclusion to come to?

Don't be naughty-coming to conclusions based on experience is entirely different from plagiarising pre-selected material which appears to support puerile notions of reality.

It is my considered opinion, based on many years experience-I do have a qualification in Psychology too BTW!-that birching is an effective and cheap method of dealing with a small number of offences.

I obviously disagree with those who are able to put a reasoned argument-backed by experience-to the contrary. That does not mean I disrespect their opinions.

Precocious little boys who see fit to contradict older and wiser people are inevitably shown up for the fools they are.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 13:48:09
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 5 2008, 12:39 PM) [snapback]471887[/snapback]
Morecambe

speaking of, John Newby. BTT!

if he signed yesterday allegedly we should know today yes?

The correct answer was 'beside her onions'!


Speaking of Newb-aye you'd think so!

Mind you Smiffy knows and he was once right before I think.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 13:50:51
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 5 2008, 12:42 PM) [snapback]471889[/snapback]
laugh.gif
I'm not going to lower myself to your level.

FAIL

You mean you can't you daft wee c*nt until Mummy unstraps you, and she won't be getting up to do that till we're finished..
mortonjag 2008-07-05 14:14:56
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 5 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]471879[/snapback]
Mortonjag agrees - argument has been lost by the other side. happy.gif

CORRECT!


FAIL


As ever! thumbdown.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-05 14:32:22
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 5 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]471907[/snapback]
Perhaps then Mentaljag would like to give evidence to support his claims instead of slevvering about wee pink botties.
Until then your wisdom is subject to ridicule.

Now, you'd think having had far too many years living in the sort of Greenock schemes where knife crime is rife, I'd be the one to immediately call for the birch, the cane, the noose and all the other punishment devices under the sun.
Instead of the doctor from the Newlands ivory tower. sleep.gif

That's your problem son-you think you can second guess your elders and betters. Well you can't, though it might upset you if you realised how transparent YOU are.

The only 'ridiculous' thing I can see is your persistence.

I stated that I believe birching would be effective-there is no recent evidence in this country to support my belief, though I invite you to join in the experiment. As I told you, my belief is based on years of experience, and on no small quantity of learning including my Psychology training.

Do you plan to inhabit a scheme where knife crime is rife when you've reached my age?

Is that why you've been reading all those big books? eek.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-05 15:17:38
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 5 2008, 02:45 PM) [snapback]471919[/snapback]
you better not be insinuating that either is a pouffe . rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-05 15:24:31
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 5 2008, 02:33 PM) [snapback]471915[/snapback]
You say that like I don't already rolleyes.gif

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Have you considered changing your butcher?
mortonjag 2008-07-05 15:58:30
QUOTE(CraigoTON @ Jul 5 2008, 02:54 PM) [snapback]471922[/snapback]
so... how do you get in then? huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif

If you're over eighteen (not my decision-'cos I believe we've some posters under eighteen whose maturity puts others to shame) you just ask Ton in Dublin or Boozehound.

It's their call (as should be) as they've done the work to get it up and running.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 16:01:20
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 5 2008, 02:47 PM) [snapback]471920[/snapback]
WTF are you lot on about unsure.gif

Birching-in particular birching knife offenders-what do you think?
mortonjag 2008-07-05 16:05:50
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 5 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]471931[/snapback]
Did I read that correctly as I scratch my head unsure.gif

Mortonjag does not make mistakes dearie.

Are you free tonight?
mortonjag 2008-07-05 16:27:59
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Jul 5 2008, 02:21 PM) [snapback]471912[/snapback]
The thing about personal experience is that you only ever experience your own perspective. It's like the favourite cry of the white South African - the 'you weren't there, you don't know' argument. I'm not denying the helpfulness of experience in making considered opinions, but it's like making an opinion with blinkers on, you only see what's right in front of you, while missing what's all around you. As someone with a Psychology qualification you should realise how important research is, but in another way you're right, the research is always just another considered opinion based on the research - but it shouldn't be ignored on this basis, just not declared as truth. And if you realise the importance of experience you should also realise you're lack of experience of being a young person in recent times.

You retorted with a lazy argument based on age and experience. If you're experience means something you should let it speak for itself. You should put forward a considered opinion, and then argue against other considered opinions. And there's no reason why you cannot borrow from the considered opinions of others, as long as you treat it as opinion and not fact.

To add to this argument: In my experience those who were violently punished the most by their parents were the ones who were the biggest threat to others, and it's a similar story for the ones were locked up at a young age. I don't deny that it might help in some cases, but I see it as a poor attempt to solve the problem. I work in primary schools in my local area, when I meet some of the parents I wonder how they manage to keep their kids alive never mind help them to become helpful members of society. Violently punishing young people just tries to patch over the real problems IMO.

I accept your opinions, and agree with some of what you say.

Regarding the highlighted text, however, this is what I responded to:


Violence breeds violence.
How many times has the senile Jag and MidTONs came up with the same argument on here over the past fecking year anyway? blink.gif
I'm not cheeky lorry man - I'm just right. happy.gif



Now you can make up your mind whether the poster is a cheeky young brat, and just trying to wind up/outsmart the Jag, or whether HE is an ageist clown.

Either way, you may wish to reconsider your opinion that I replied with 'a lazy argument based on age and experience'.

VT has previous for this kind of provocative nonsense. It's my considered opinion based purely on observation of his posts, that he DOES think he knows more than I do on this particular issue.

He doesn't!

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mortonjag 2008-07-05 19:16:04
QUOTE(vikingTON)
'Jul 5 2008, 11:00 AM' post='471839']
Why don't we use the "Herod method" and just kill all newborn children - within 70 or so years crime will have been eradicated. huh.gif



QUOTE([color=)
vikingTON']Jul 5 2008, 11:20AM[/color]
Violence breeds violence.
How many times has the senile Jag and MidTONs came up with the same argument on here over the past fecking year anyway? blink.gif
I'm not cheeky lorry man - I'm just right. happy.gif



QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 5 2008, 04:48 PM) [snapback]471942[/snapback]
Oops, it appears that Dr Mentaljag was the first poster to even resort to age as an argument in the thread.
So whom is the "ageist clown" then?

A lazy argument on age and experience is all you have given despite God-knows how many posts of reprtitive pish on the matter.

How can I say for sure if I know more than you if you won't divulge any evidence to support your theory?
No evidence, no credence.

It seems you ARE serious!

Everything I've surmised about you previously is correct. It's perfectly clear from your first two posts that you were out to 'cause trouble', and the 'senile' comment is inaccurate, deliberately offensive, and PRECEDED anything I said to you. You couldn't even get that right.

Mortonjag does not attack, but vigorously defends his corner.

'No evidence-no credence'---another of your stupid remarks. This is not a scientific experiment. I have stated what I believe.

If others choose to prefer the opinion of an inexperienced 17 year old child, that is entirely their prerogative.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 20:38:59
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 5 2008, 04:40 PM) [snapback]471939[/snapback]
Yawn.

FAIL


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mortonjag 2008-07-05 20:40:25
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Jul 5 2008, 04:59 PM) [snapback]471945[/snapback]
when i needed sunshine i got rain mad.gif

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And then I saw her face
mortonjag 2008-07-05 20:42:35
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jul 5 2008, 06:01 PM) [snapback]471954[/snapback]
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Maybe thats why the Gillan clan never got a wave that day.

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mortonjag 2008-07-05 20:44:29
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 5 2008, 08:01 PM) [snapback]471985[/snapback]
Not at all. I'm just alluding to the fact that he's been close with previous Morton managers. wub.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-05 20:50:13 Signing good players on loan would make financial sense in our current predicament.

Signing Robinson is a complete gamble-if it works out fine-if it doesn't, we know who is responsible.

'Don't you think David, that young Robinson deserves the chance to take us forward'? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-05 20:55:35
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jul 5 2008, 04:45 PM) [snapback]471941[/snapback]
Name names. wink.gif



QUOTE(leyTON @ Jul 5 2008, 06:37 PM) [snapback]471962[/snapback]
yes do



Dunning and Leyton for starters, and of course my wee darling Deeglet! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-05 21:03:17
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 5 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]471984[/snapback]
Come on Col, criticise the man for his politics by all means but his sexuality is his own business. You're not following the Soapy Souter party line I hope.

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Not often I support Spurtle DE, but he DID say 'arse licker'.

'Arse bandit' would have been different and surprised me none.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 21:06:03
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 5 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]472007[/snapback]
I'm always spot on. You might be right about Nadal though. smile.gif

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You're coming along nicely-try 'Princess is always spot on', next time! cool.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-05 21:14:20
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 5 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]471990[/snapback]
I would knife the lot of them blink.gif

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I would feed them live into a giant mincer pour encourager les autres Willow, but we have to be seen to be civilised.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 21:17:30
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 5 2008, 08:26 PM) [snapback]472001[/snapback]
God loves a trier. wink.gif

That's why we've still got Finlayson.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 21:20:09
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 5 2008, 08:48 PM) [snapback]472023[/snapback]
Now, now, one is as sober as a judge.

...and the rest are as pished as Willow.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 21:25:37
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 5 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]472035[/snapback]
That makes two of us blush.gif

Thank goodness somebody else has the courage to admit it. There must be thousands who do it-in fact I'll bet some are so desperate they just unroll and fling the paper away as soon as the bog roll's out the Tesco bag.

I've tried humping one with the paper still on but it's more difficult to see your knob going out and in the far end-the bit I like best.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 21:28:21
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 5 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]472024[/snapback]
Maybe it wouldn't have been so bad if i didn't have rubber gloves and tongs.? blush.gif

Tweezers my Dear-get it right please.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 21:31:38
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 5 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]472025[/snapback]
Exactly. So they swell up like a watermelon once a month. So what? Deal with it, bitch.

Women make such a song and dance about childbirth too, if men gave birth it'd be a couple of paracetamol and back to work within the hour. happy.gif

Ibuprofen actually, and they'd just take a tea break to drap the sprog and back to the important stuff.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 22:14:49
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 5 2008, 09:52 PM) [snapback]472064[/snapback]
i'm looking for a new camera any suggestions?

If it's a reliable wee digital Bryan you'll do well with Amazon. I've got a Canon Powershot which I believe cost about £130 and it's been all I expected it to be.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 22:19:59
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 5 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]472046[/snapback]
Bryan is indeed correct, I did come on here and say it looked as if I had got it wrong only for the wee s*** to go full circle.
Edit to add - I don't take any pleasure for being right in these situations.


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QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 5 2008, 09:42 PM) [snapback]472059[/snapback]
Can't find a smug smiley, so this one will need to do! cool.gif

All right Smiffy-how many is he going to score next season? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-05 22:22:27
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 5 2008, 09:23 PM) [snapback]472051[/snapback]
Yes but the Big Q is....

Would that stop them re-offending tongue.gif

Who knows-they'd probably come back as Midden supporters.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 22:25:15 Slightly embarrassed to admit it but that's how I met my current partner. He lied a wee bit (his knob's actually quite little) but he's a gem of a man, and anyway I do the shagging.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 22:28:00
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 5 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]472055[/snapback]
TBH I use the cardboard insert of Kitchen Roll laugh.gif

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I sometimes use those but those POUFFES on the Bounty advert put me off. I'd much rather shag an Andrex Puppy roll.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 22:31:00
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 5 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]472057[/snapback]
Or Forceps laugh.gif

DREAM ON!

Back to the topic and the excitement stuff-the best piece of excitement I ever had was discovering she had none on.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 22:33:38
QUOTE(mortonboi @ Jul 5 2008, 10:25 PM) [snapback]472076[/snapback]
is newby signed

AYE! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-05 22:36:34
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 5 2008, 10:18 PM) [snapback]472071[/snapback]
Brown has lost control of his Party, even the trusted lieutenants in his own Cabinet know he is dead man walking

.....and we could NEVER accuse Bawheid of being dead! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 07:30:05
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 5 2008, 11:30 PM) [snapback]472108[/snapback]
I know what he said and I have a good idea what he inferred.

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You sound like ME!
mortonjag 2008-07-06 07:36:05
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 6 2008, 12:06 AM) [snapback]472111[/snapback]
Despite the best efforts of Thatcher and Blair, Socialism's greatest acheivement still survives. Ok, it was a Liberal that conceived it, but a Socialist made it a reality. Within the first ten years of its existence, infant mortality rates were cut in half. Access to healthcare immediately became a right instead of a privilege and consequently average life expectancy has been extended by 15 years since the inception of the NHS in 1948. The reactionary forces of the predominantly Tory establishment, both north and south of the border, did their best to strangle the NHS before it could be born. Thankfully, THEY DID NOT SUCCEED.
All youse Tories, either red, white and blue or tartan, look upon Socialism's best work and despair.

I do every day look at the country's most kicked political football and despair Mr Edwards. It could still be SO good you know.

QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 6 2008, 01:06 AM) [snapback]472131[/snapback]
it's amazing how the nhs gets taken for granted eh? what i hate though is when people use it to say how much better we are than the yanks etc. imo it doesn't make us a super forward thinking state for having it more it shows the likes of the u.s. to be total twats for not having it. if u know what i mean!!!

i reckon it's a pre-requisite for a modern country to tax it's citizens according to their ability to pay in order to fund essential services. i don't mind workin and i don't mind paying. i'm a socialist. it's the only way. any c*** got anything to say about that? eh?eh?

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Aye-you're an utter fud who sometimes gets things right.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 07:40:21
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 6 2008, 07:18 AM) [snapback]472189[/snapback]
What's the prob?
Worried about gettin' yer ass blown up or not a fan of Zionism? unsure.gif

Petty crime's rife among them Israelis. Folk are getting their tools nicked day and daily.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 07:52:22 Support for independence slips slightly

SUPPORT FOR INDEPENDENCE HAS dropped slightly in the first opinion poll conducted since the SNP government's first parliamentary session in office.

The TNS System Three survey shows that 39% of respondents want Alex Salmond's administration to negotiate for independence with Westminster, compared with 41% who oppose it.

The percentage of Scots backing the break-up of the United Kingdom is down 2% in three months, but up 4% since August last year.
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Salmond wants to hold an independence referendum in 2010 as a prelude to entering talks with Westminster about creating a separate Scottish state.

TNS has organised a quarterly tracker poll since last autumn based on the exact question Salmond would like to put to the electorate.

He wants to ask voters whether they agree or disagree that "the Scottish Government should negotiate a settlement with the Government of the United Kingdom so that Scotland becomes an independent state".

The latest snapshot, which was conducted between June 25 and July 1, reveals that 41% of those polled disagree with the proposition, while 39% agree.

This contrasts with the result three months ago, when support for independence was recorded at 41% and opposition came in at 40%.

Both results are within the margin of error, which suggests that the 21% of "don't knows" would determine the result of a referendum. The TNS poll from August last year found that 50% of those polled disagreed with Salmond's independence option, compared to 35% in favour.

Eleven months of polling has shown support for separation rise by 4%, while opposition has fallen by 9%. Equally, SNP supporters may be anxious that support for independence appears to have flatlined around 40%.

It is also apparent from other polls that putting a third question on the ballot paper, namely boosting Holyrood's powers, reduces the numbers for independence. Support for independence is greatest amongst the 35 to 44 age group, while opposition is strongest in the 65+ bracket.

The poll was taken in the middle of the Wendy Alexander donation saga and at the end of the SNP's first parliamentary session in office, a period marked by debates on abolishing the council tax and replacing PFI.

TNS managing director Chris Eyon said of the findings: "While this is clearly a positive situation for the SNP compared to August, when support languished 15% behind opposition, it is interesting to note that the actual level of support is now only 4% higher than the opening reading. The difference is in the level actively opposed, which has declined by 9%, although the majority of these are now undecided rather than supportive of independence."

A Labour spokesman said: "The SNP want to break up Britain, and this poll shows that a majority reject this."

The SNP's Nicola Sturgeon said: "This poll confirms that support for independence is running neck and neck with the status quo."











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That's right Nickerless, 39% = 41%, we're getting a Health Service that will 'Meet Demand', School class sizes are dropping as promised, Soutar only gave you two and six, and the Pope's an Orangeman.



Chickens coming home to roost. If you really want independence, start treating the electorate as intelligent adults! wacko.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 08:12:02
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 6 2008, 07:53 AM) [snapback]472197[/snapback]
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Now now, I had hoped that you, as a medic, would deplore male genital mutilation.



Clinical circumcision is to be commended.

I do, however, deplore the practices of Imams and Rabbis. The penknife is not a scalpel.

Many's the time I've had to pick up the pieces. blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 08:20:42
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 6 2008, 01:38 AM) [snapback]472136[/snapback]
i'm not into violence. period. it's caveman behaviour and has no place as a punishment in a modern state.
longer sentences with fewer "benefits" are required. we need to look at the causes of crime to protect our citizens whilst hammering the perpetrators with hard time.

i should be a politician me, i'd be f***ing brilliant

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.....but you're not into 'violence'.

Which is preferable-a public arse tanning, after which you can crawl home for a long hard think, or being deprived of your freedom for six months at huge public expense.

Oh-or a Fiscal Fine!!!!

Aye gonnae geez wan o' thae fiscal fines-the social'll pay it. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 08:27:51
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jul 5 2008, 11:01 PM) [snapback]472097[/snapback]
I'm confused MJ, I thought you had children? Or did they come before you found men?

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When God closes a door he opens a window.

I'm a firm believer in investigating all openings.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 08:33:54
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 6 2008, 02:00 AM) [snapback]472145[/snapback]
here that was a good attempt at a smokesreen my man. anyway, were his balls heaving wi spunk?



One of the few expressions I've heard which cannot be translated into medical jargon! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 08:38:29 When I think of independence, I think of freedom.

When I see Bawheid's self satisfied smirk, I think of tyranny.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 08:45:29
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Jul 6 2008, 08:41 AM) [snapback]472205[/snapback]
What's wrong with Hawaii? I went there on vacation in 1994, and I told my wife, "Go back and sell everything because I ain't going back......."

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Hawaii is seen as an idyllic destination by normal folk Trick! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 09:20:49
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 6 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]472214[/snapback]
In fact Rabbis don't do the chopping, that's the job for a mohel.

Clicky.

I'm surprised you you know so much about Rabbis' choppers Mr. Bam.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 10:21:59
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 6 2008, 09:43 AM) [snapback]472227[/snapback]
Aye, you are right MJ, let's call off the proposed 2010 referendum Bill. That massive 2% drop means the chickens have indeed come home to roost and it's all now pointless to even consider independence.

You were right all along....... rolleyes.gif

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How unlike you to rubbish the results of polls Spurtle! drink.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 10:26:16
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 6 2008, 09:24 AM) [snapback]472219[/snapback]
Or even those who chop choppers. laugh.gif

Oh hell-here comes the Mohel with his Swiss army knife and a big cheesy grin.

QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jul 6 2008, 09:25 AM) [snapback]472221[/snapback]
I was being ironic, Trick. rolleyes.gif

Anybody got a surfboard I can borrow? cool.gif

Can you swim?
mortonjag 2008-07-06 10:40:18
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jul 6 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]472224[/snapback]
Having now lived in 4 European countries my own personal experience and that of my family tells me that the NHS in the UK was the worst healthcare system of them all..... and by a country mile at that.

It may well have been groundbreaking and achieved great things 60 years ago but it's no longer fit for the needs and expectations of the 21st century.

Guess it doesn't get any more personal-and you're correct.

QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jul 6 2008, 10:00 AM) [snapback]472231[/snapback]
It needs a lot more than 'restructuring' David, it needs to be overhauled completely.

All the countries I've lived in have offered healthcare to all, free at the point of use, which I assume meets your Socialist requirements?

The difference being however that the quality of the heathcare offered is infinitely superior to that offered by the NHS.

Now, why do you think that might be? I suspect it might have something to do with the fact that the healthcare systems in mainland Europe are generally ran by the medical profession and supported by the government, rather than the other way round as is the case with the good old NHS.

I know it's a British institution and a great Socialist achievement and all that, but it's no longer fit for purpose.



That's oversimplified, but what you're saying is common sense.

I've claimed 'for long and weary' that hospitals were actually MORE efficient forty years ago, for the simple reason that they were run by the Matron who oversaw an efficient nursing workforce, and the Hospital Superintendent-a senior physician who was in charge of the medical side. Just two 'high heid yins' where now there are literally HUNDREDS in any general hospital.

The wastage on 'management' and bureaucracy in today's NHS is nothing short of criminal, but it's a self perpetuating cancer endorsed by politicians.

Put what you've just said in stark contrast to Ms. Sturgeon's claim that she'll give us a Scottish NHS which meets demand without further involvement of the private sector, and you have a perfect example of what I'm talking about.

As long as the NHS is ruled by 'the party in power' it will continue to deteriorate.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 10:48:32
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 6 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]472236[/snapback]
This whole episode just makes you shake your head in disbelief.

Is it any wonder the Muslim community in this country have difficulty integrating into our way of life. Something has got to give sometime. This is Scotland and each time they complain about aspects of our culture that they find offensive it just increases the divide.

They are making rods for their own backs.


Some years ago in Glasgow the Cooncil saw fit to name the road leading to the local Muslim Temple as Mosque Avenue.

Nothing particularly offensive there, but I'm just wondering how long it will be before they are forced to re-name Christian Street (especially as it lies right in the midst of a multi-cultural area).

I am NOT joking.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 11:13:24
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 6 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]472250[/snapback]
Anyway, I thought the story of the day was about the Glasgow Labour MP who had to retire on "health reasons"

Strangely not a story you will see in any Scottish newspaper, only reported in England.

He spent £500,000 of taxpayers' money running his office and for paying his staff. Turns out his "office" is his home. And his "staff" is his wife.

Nice work if you can get it eh ?



True Spurtle-not the sort of behaviour Bawheid's lot would EVER indulge in, because they are pure at heart.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 11:24:35
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 6 2008, 11:19 AM) [snapback]472256[/snapback]
"Salmond has failed the country" ?? laugh.gif Now that is baws !

"People waking up to reality" ? Obviously not something that has happened to you

"The Country starting to see Salmond and the SNP as a different shade of grey" ? I see no evidence of this at all. Perhaps you are just willing people to see that and hoping Salmond and the SNP fail.

What a great nationalist you are ! A credit to the cause....superb !

True Spurtle-true!

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 6 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]472257[/snapback]
That is indeed correct MJ. Best to keep to the facts eh ?

Show me an honest politician, and I'll show you a Fudgy Wudgy that doesn't rot little children's teeth.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 13:13:10
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 6 2008, 11:33 AM) [snapback]472266[/snapback]
One thing is for sure MJ, the Labour MP who resigned suffering clinical depression because of the expenses allegations, seems to me to be a wee bit dishonest in his expences claims.

From 2001-2007, he claimed £91,000 incidental expenses provision, which is used to pay for constituency offices (his home), plus £400,000 for staff (unsure if it's his wife or daughter as both have the same name) and £11,000 for their travel expenses.

The rules state, MP's can use their home as an office but only claim for additional costs like 'extra phone lines, heating and lighting'

I know the Electric and Gas bills were rising, but that is surely taking the piss mad.gif

Hey Spurtle-I'm not disputing any of it-well-only the bit about 'suffering clinical depression-because of'. Who are you to know his medical history!

Anyway, the point is that each time you highlight the graft and cupiditas of ANY M.P., you merely illustrate the point that they are all pigs in the same filthy swill.

Now here's a wee question!

Don't you imagine that the most successful pigs are the ones who don't get caught? eek.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 13:27:13
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jul 6 2008, 12:37 PM) [snapback]472292[/snapback]
It may appear sensible, but there are rules about how private limited companies handle share issues. Canvassing for people to purchase shares in the local press breaches one of them. rolleyes.gif

There are also rules about how private limited companies make information available to the public via Companies House itchy baws!

Not that you'd have appreciated that from reading this thread.

Anyway, when's Alistair coming back from holiday, when's he going to sign the relevant document, and IS he going to invest in the current share issue?
mortonjag 2008-07-06 13:35:54 I can't get very enthusiastic about signing yet another striker when there are still other priorities. I've been excusing DI on the basis of lack of funds, but that's another salary to be paid, and still no wingers, no full backs, and only one goalie.

What's the secret plan?

Is Jimbo just about to go for £500,000, Kev for £5,000, Davie for £500, and the naked Ping Pong player for £50 and a blow job from Alan Maitland.

THERE-money in the bank-four salaries gone and the chance to get that 'small squad of quality players' we were promised. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 13:40:48
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 6 2008, 01:36 PM) [snapback]472309[/snapback]
Aye, there's the rub. smile.gif

Edwards' snake oil embrocation-guaranteed to reach the parts doctors wouldn't dream of touching! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 13:49:29 Yer Maw's so fat she wipes her arse with......

Yer Maws so fat she canny wipe her ain erse.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 14:12:42 John Hillcoat
Goalkeeping Academy

John Hillcoat has been a professional goalkeeper for the past 20 years, having played for 14 Senior Football clubs. During this time he has worked under some of Scotland’s top goalkeeping coaches. He holds relevant goalkeeping coaching certificates and is a qualified PE teacher.


John’s vast experience has inspired him to form his own Goalkeeping Academy catering for goalkeepers working at boys’ club/amateur level.

Regular visits to the Academy will give the youngsters a chance to:

* work with experienced SFA licensed coaches
* learn fundamental goalkeeping skills
* improve hand to eye coordination
* improve shot stopping
* improve handling
* improve distribution, positioning, crossing
* ...and a whole lot more

Contact John:

email: john@hillcoatgoalkeeping.co.uk

call: 07921914578


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mortonjag 2008-07-06 14:20:26
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 6 2008, 02:14 PM) [snapback]472322[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-07-06 14:26:40
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 6 2008, 02:12 PM) [snapback]472318[/snapback]
Weatherson, if fit - and I think Irons will make sure he is - could be one of the best strikers in this division, so f'ckin yee-ha if Newby turns out better.

NEWBS BOOBS



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mortonjag 2008-07-06 14:33:56
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 6 2008, 02:23 PM) [snapback]472325[/snapback]
Aye, that'd be about as remarkable as, er, Church Street. blink.gif

I'm not entirely clear as to which aspect of my post your typically confusing comment refers.

Church Street is a very common address throughout Scotland, as are, for that matter Chapel Street, and Station Road.

Christian Street is a rather unusual address, though I'd imagine there may still be a few more Christian Streets scattered across the country than Mosque Avenues, which brings me to the question I've been meaning to ask for a while.

What's your date of birth?
mortonjag 2008-07-06 14:40:06
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 6 2008, 02:34 PM) [snapback]472329[/snapback]
We spend around 10% of GDP on the NHS. For that we get a health service where something like 37% of the employees are Doctors, Nurses or other direct healthcare professionals (radiologists/physios and the like). The rest are cleaners/cooks/IT support plus of course the vast army of administrators in the NHS, many of them employed to get the statistics out for governments to prove what a good job they are doing!

We have the lowest ratio of doctors to patients in Europe. Long live universal healthcare free at the point of need but the NHS is not value for money as it is at the moment. Governments need to but out of running it except for provide the funding. Let healthcare professionals run healthcare.

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Sometimes the figures say it all!
mortonjag 2008-07-06 14:44:12
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jul 6 2008, 02:37 PM) [snapback]472330[/snapback]
and Harold, will you be at the airport awaiting his arrival with members of the serious crime squad? laugh.gif laugh.gif

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No more than anybody will bother his arse if the Tilly run a wee splurge suggesting that Mr Donald might be investing in the current share issue!
mortonjag 2008-07-06 14:52:30
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 6 2008, 02:44 PM) [snapback]472334[/snapback]
Aha I kind of see your guarded point (mince as usual), but wonder why date of birth would be relevant. unsure.gif

I was just curious to know how long you've lived on that Greenock scheme which is rife with knife crime, and I assume hoaching with Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Confucians, atheists and a few Christians.



I was also planning to send you a birthday card-well Fing was actually.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 15:15:41
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jul 6 2008, 03:07 PM) [snapback]472348[/snapback]
He is back, he has signed, don't know.

Happy to be of service tongue.gif rolleyes.gif laugh.gif smartass.gif

You have indeed been a good boy. Have the changes been made at Companies House yet, or shall I need to contact my friend there again?

You have been promoted to grade B carrots!
mortonjag 2008-07-06 15:18:18
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 6 2008, 03:01 PM) [snapback]472343[/snapback]
Bless.
That would be 17 years.
Multi-religous: atheist, catholic, protestant, probably a few agnostics: I'll go to Haris and ask of their religion - most liekly Islam but as to which version I would not know.
Satisfied?

Yes.

Thank you very much.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 15:22:26
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jul 6 2008, 02:50 PM) [snapback]472336[/snapback]
With things like rising fuel prices, spiralling inflation and stealth taxes galore, has anyone recently thought about emigrating?

If so, where would their prefered destination be?

Also, a few folk on here have moved away from the UK to set up home on other parts of the world, what kind of experiences did they encounter?

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Your wee signature becomes all the more poignant! Don't let Rae force you into this my boy-good things may be just around the corner!
mortonjag 2008-07-06 15:36:30
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jul 6 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]472357[/snapback]
i think you should contact your friend at Companies House, this sort of crime should not go un-punished. So what kind of punishment are we looking at here, fines, point deductions, relegation, jail for the directors in question, expulsion from the league, playing games behind closed doors ????????



QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jul 6 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]472359[/snapback]
For completeness, you should perhaps add interpol, the fbi, the cia and international rescue to whom you should contact - the answer is likely to be the same with the second word being off. rolleyes.gif laugh.gif



Well gentlemen, let's just say that this thread had effectively died a natural death until it was resurrected by your good friend 'Itchy Baws'. I can't for the life of me imagine what he was trying to achieve. Maybe he's not that bright.

He was quick to point to the 'rules', and I merely did the same. You can't have it both ways.



Cue-


A pair of apparent clowns 'up the anti'-oh well if that's what you and Shoogly want fine. rolleyes.gif

I've already written to the Chief Executive suggesting that maybe the Chairman should open out a wee bit on Mr Donald's current role-given the ongoing share issue- and I've thanked Crawford Rae for his prompt explanation. I've genuinely been trying to see the thing in a positive light.

Your attempting to ridicule this issue is immature, and NOT in the Club's best interests.

You in particular, Tailbearer, should really know better! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 15:51:48
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jul 6 2008, 03:41 PM) [snapback]472365[/snapback]
Rising fuel prices is a global phenomena affecting every country in the world so emigrating won't get you away from that problem.

Inflation in the UK is relatively low compared to most other industrialised nations and there are also few countries with lower taxation that the UK. Stealth taxes are everywhere, I'm afraid.

So if these are the reasons for considering emigrating I think you'll be very disappointed.

If however you want to do it to broaden the mind, meet new people, and experience another culture and lifestyle, then I'd say go for it.

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mortonjag 2008-07-06 16:06:03
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jul 6 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]472369[/snapback]
I think you are the one who blew it out of all proportion in the first place, and as for not being in the clubs interest then why did you start it then ? Was it in the clubs best interest that you started it or another one of your pathetic little games to get at the chairman. Oh i forgot , you don't like answering questions that don't show you in the greatest of lights, are you a member of the Gillan clan laugh.gif ohmy.gif

If you care to check, I merely asked some pertinent questions 'in the first place'.

I discovered that many people had been wondering the same things. That was BEFORE it came to light that AD was not a designated director.

I haven't a clue what you mean by the italicized item, but if anybody is now playing pathetic little games I am certainly not he. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 16:13:50
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jul 6 2008, 04:07 PM) [snapback]472378[/snapback]
nice back-tracking, i'm impressed

Am I now supposed to say-'Pot-kettle-black'.

Nadal's winning by the way-I put a double on with him and Lewis Hamilton, so maybe you should be wishing a rapid painless death on all Spanish kids.

Shall I buy you a celebratory drink, or do you think there will be a big Swiss Cheesy smile at the end of play?

Fing's in the toilet right now. He's been a wee bit constipated of late, but the Monkey sends his good wishes. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 16:20:35
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jul 6 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]472380[/snapback]
Goes back to a discussion a few weeks ago in another thread. If tax on fuel was reduced then you'd have to pay it back in another form of taxation.

Alternatively you'd have to live with the decrease in revenue and the lower public services, less policemen, larger class sizes, and even longer NHS waiting lists that would result in.
I think even you could learn something from foreigners Paul. tongue.gif

I'd never try to discourage anyone from experiencing living abroad, but if it's not done for the right reasons then I think you'll be disappointed, that's all.

You know me well enough, I'm narrow-minded and dont seek enlightenment from foreigners, but the UK depresses me at the moment and i want a decent lifestyle without those Labour b*****ds robbing me blind for it.



MUNNY



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mortonjag 2008-07-06 16:28:03
PLASTIC BOOTEES FOR POLICE SNIFFER DOGS


YIP folks-that's what I said-just heard on Five Live that the Polis are considering putting plastic bootees on sniffer dogs before they're taken into Muslim households.


Maybe Capitanus has got things spot on!

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mortonjag 2008-07-06 16:33:09
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jul 6 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]472385[/snapback]
I'm not in the least bit excited, believe you me! I tried for weeks to get out of it, not because it's Hawaii per se but because I hate traveling and 36 hours on a plane there and back really is my idea of hell.

It's Honolulu I'm going to, no idea what island that's on. Have you been there? Any good?

I hope I'll enjoy it when I get there though... after my presentation to a few hundred conference delegates is over with... definitely not looking forward to that. :squeekybum

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mortonjag 2008-07-06 16:35:33
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jul 6 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]472387[/snapback]
I also have hamilton and nadal, but i also have salford in there with them on a treble cool.gif and unfortunately i don't drink angel.gif

You are a wiser man than I'd ever imagined!
mortonjag 2008-07-06 17:24:51
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jul 6 2008, 04:44 PM) [snapback]472392[/snapback]
or should that be ' fortunately ' i don't drink

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mortonjag 2008-07-06 17:33:08
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Jul 6 2008, 05:26 PM) [snapback]472404[/snapback]
Just seeing if all has been forgiven now he's back.

As far as I am aware I am not - and never have been - bitter towards Scott or anyone else on here?

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mortonjag 2008-07-06 17:44:20
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jul 6 2008, 05:17 PM) [snapback]472402[/snapback]
Cheers. Pineapple farms eh.... cannae wait. rolleyes.gif The Pearl Harbor stuff doesn't really interest me either.... the film was s***e anyway.

Aye, the €:$ exchange rate is pretty good just now so hopefully will be a bit more affordable... the swally will be on expenses anyway so not too bothered about the costs.

Very used to doing presentations but not on this scale. Plus the people there will be very knowledgeable on the subject matter meaning that smile.gif my usual modus operandi.... namely bulls***ting.. .... is not an option. blush.gif



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mortonjag 2008-07-06 19:16:26
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 6 2008, 05:56 PM) [snapback]472417[/snapback]
I don't think the plan is secret. As we'll almost certainly be playing 3-5-2 most games, we don't need full-backs or wingers. The wing-backs fulfil both roles and we have two good ones in Finlayson and McAllister. Because we have lost four salaries doesn't necessarily mean there's money in the bank. I for one think we now have the 'small squad of quality players' we were promised. A first-team pool of only 18 is certainly not large. smile.gif

Because we've stubbornly refused to sign wingers or full backs we're forced into an inflexible system incorporating two 'wing backs' who can't cross a ball to save themselves, Smiffy.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 19:22:16
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 6 2008, 05:58 PM) [snapback]472418[/snapback]
I have my sources, ask MJ! rolleyes.gif

I can exclusively reveal that Smiffy is very close to the high heid yins at the 'Beano'.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 19:30:49
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Jul 6 2008, 06:13 PM) [snapback]472422[/snapback]
I think we've probably got the right guy to take us forward, and at the same time, it's a really big chance for Irons to show that it wasn't just the money that took Gretna to the SPL. I also think that even if we struggle Rae will give Irons at least another year as we really need a bit of stability.

Things could be a hell of alot worse.



Arguably the best manager we've had since Rae became Chairman is now with Hamilton in the SPL. The worst was kept on for two seasons longer than his performance justified, and would still be with us in Division 2 if Rae had had his way.

Don't try to second guess Shoogly-his ego is FAR bigger than what's really best for the club.

Rather than the team struggling under Irons, I'd imagine Irons will eventually struggle under Rae. Hopefully money will be forthcoming from another source in the not to distant future.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 19:40:10
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 6 2008, 06:03 PM) [snapback]472420[/snapback]
No danger I thought you were promoting Alex Salmond to keep him busy at night while you let Mrs Salmond lick heather honey from your genitals wub.gif

Hives on his baws Chrissiboi-that sounds a wee bit itchy!
mortonjag 2008-07-06 19:42:36 If it's down to skill Hamilton will win the title-he's arguably the best British prospect since Jim Clark.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 19:56:43
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 6 2008, 07:40 PM) [snapback]472446[/snapback]
deja vu blush.gif

Hey Gibby-that 'womens trouble' you apparently suffer from -there's a cure which involves a little scripture, from the Gospel of St Luke, the Physician. Chapter 8/



43 And a woman having an issue of blood twelve years, which had spent all her living upon physicians, neither could be healed of any,

44 Came behind him, and touched the border of his garment: and immediately her issue of blood stanched.

45 And Jesus said, Who touched me? When all denied, Peter and they that were with him said, Master, the multitude throng thee and press thee, and sayest thou, Who touched me?

46 And Jesus said, Somebody hath touched me: for I perceive that virtue is gone out of me.

47 And when the woman saw that she was not hid, she came trembling, and falling down before him, she declared unto him before all the people for what cause she had touched him, and how she was healed immediately.

48 And he said unto her, Daughter, be of good comfort: thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 20:03:26
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 6 2008, 07:55 PM) [snapback]472453[/snapback]
Ok master. rolleyes.gif Are you all watching the final??

Yes my dear-my money was on Nadal, but seems the weather wins again!
mortonjag 2008-07-06 20:06:18
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 6 2008, 07:49 PM) [snapback]472451[/snapback]
Failing to spot red lights is a skill now?
Tell that to the polis on your next day oot. tongue.gif

In fairness to Ferrari, the BMW pit radio did forecast that it would be light drizzle for 5 minutes - if the track had dried the race would have been in the bag.
Comparing Kimi's position now to the massive deficit last year, he looks favourit - unless like last season the two competing team mates allow Hamilton this time to pinch it.
Doubt it'll happen though - Kimi's far more consistent so eventually Massa will have to be given a wee quiet word and play 2nd fiddle. sleep.gif

When do you sit your driving test?
mortonjag 2008-07-06 20:08:47
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 6 2008, 08:05 PM) [snapback]472463[/snapback]
It could go either way. I want Fedderer, Nadal keeps picking his arse. thumbdown.gif

That's rude and intrusive-if I was Federer I'd give him a smack.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 20:15:41
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 6 2008, 08:04 PM) [snapback]472460[/snapback]
MJ, i have no idea whatsoever what all that s*** means, and yes i class that as s***, religion is all a load of bumf as far as im concerned rolleyes.gif

You're just too much of a Filly Stein to bother trying to read, let alone understand it.

The poor woman had a gynaecological problem. All the quacks had failed to help. With immense and commendable faith, she furtively touched the hem of Jesus' robe, and was instantly healed.

Now Jesus' Daddy is available at Scapa of a Saturday afternoon. I just thought you could quietly sneak up behind him while he was checking his hair, and touch his jacket tail. He'd instantly know that virtue had gone out of him, but you needn't spill the beans.

There, and women like Loyal Lass and CHC could no longer laugh at you.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 20:21:53
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Jul 6 2008, 08:10 PM) [snapback]472471[/snapback]
That Election Manifesto was a promise to this Nation of the things to come. How many of those promises have SNP came up with?

Cutting business rates ; Still waiting on mine being cut and don't see any difference.

Freezing Council Tax : They have put the bot into the electorates most vulnerable people. In years gone by we got two months off paying council tax with payments being due on the 28th of each month. With great stealth these payments where taken on the 1st of the month and most folk where caught short with working to their normal 28th day budget. So they couldnt pay and get hit with geez the full years money now or we'll add 10% to your bill. So those who are vulnerable get an extra 10% right up their hooter!

saving vital accident and emergency units: The manifesto promise said about the NHS Hospitals. "Yet many are under threat of closure. Adding extra travelling
time to the misery of long waiting times.
We have pledged to protect vital health services and halt the
planned closures of A&Es. An SNP government will give the
public a say in decisions on the future of local hospitals."

They used the political card and saved Ayr and Monklands. What about the Vale of Leven? What about the many others that are under threat of having services moved outwith local Communities? What happened to the public consultations? You have to make an appointment and when you do get to one you are ring fenced into groups and have to play by the top tables rules. They won't answer difficult questions. Why should the good folk and vulnerable of Inverclyde and other area's have to travel outwith their communites for treatment. Another empty promise due to mismanagement of funds.

recruiting 1000 more police officers : The biggest farce of them all. Spring 07 at the Scottish Police Federation Conf in Peebles AS makes the commitment of providing funding for 1000 extra cops. Once they get that single majority they try and shift the goalposts by saying they only meant 500 new cops and will release another 500 by getting some to stay on and not retire and by getting some away from desk jobs. The tories and SPF gave them pelters. So a quick Budget amendment at the last minute by Swinney to keep Alex from gettin a brass neck and they find the money for the 1000 cops.

Where did that money come from??? They've put back future funding projects for the NHS, Prisons and Transport. So thats why they are being quiet over the NHS reforms amongst other false projects.

I voted for this mob on the promises Sturgeon made. A year down the road all im getting is the odd pound saved when I go over the Forth Road Bridge.

TiD is spot on, if these people are failing we have THE right to voice concern. This patter they've only been in power for a year doesnt wash. Gordon Broon was pushing ahead in the Polls when he became PM and look at the state of him now.

Scotland's electorate are fed up listening to empty promises and if Alex and co don't get the finger oot it will be the last 4 years they'll have as the majority party.



Correct-Bawheid's lot never had the experience or maturity to step straight into power. The weans can maybe be excused for a wee bit of power crazed hype, but there is NO excuse for villain in chief-a trained economist and seasoned campaigner at Westminster.

Folk are beginning to see through him, and not before time.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 20:30:46
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 6 2008, 08:17 PM) [snapback]472475[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-07-06 20:32:18
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 6 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]472466[/snapback]
I don't.

Ah-you already have a full driving licence!
mortonjag 2008-07-06 20:34:13
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 6 2008, 08:09 PM) [snapback]472468[/snapback]
MON THE DUGS

Seriously though I think the Polis should use sniffer pigs.

That would cost the tax payer more money.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 20:36:37
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 6 2008, 08:09 PM) [snapback]472469[/snapback]
I think he has worms, its minging. rip.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-06 20:41:09
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 6 2008, 08:26 PM) [snapback]472478[/snapback]
Source tongue.gif

Shoogly? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 20:42:54
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 6 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]472479[/snapback]
BTT until the bold Scott answers! jerry.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-06 20:46:15
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jul 6 2008, 07:20 PM) [snapback]472433[/snapback]
That's the thing though - we do have a small squad, probably too small, but we don't have enough quality. It's not much better than last year, and yet another battle to avoid the playoff beckons with our current squad, provided Livingston strengthen.

It's definitely stronger and more purposeful.

Just a wee thought-this time last year over 75% of posters still had full confidence in JM's ability!
mortonjag 2008-07-06 20:49:16
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 6 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]472465[/snapback]
You will be in before me. Old boys club. ph34r.gif

Are you not eighteen already?
mortonjag 2008-07-06 20:52:31

FAO SPURTLE


And did those feet in ancient time,

Walk upon England’s mountains green:

And was the holy Lamb of God,

On England’s pleasant pastures seen!

And did the Countenance Divine,

Shine forth upon our clouded hills?

And was Jerusalem builded here,

Among these dark Satanic Mills?


Bring me my Bow of burning gold;

Bring me my Arrows of desire:

Bring me my Spear: O clouds unfold:

Bring me my Chariot of fire!

I will not cease from Mental Fight,

Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand,

Till we have built Jerusalem,

In England’s green & pleasant Land.

mortonjag 2008-07-06 20:55:34
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jul 6 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]472472[/snapback]
Two questions:

Is Colkitto really not in here? & Who created cowshed warrior? It's like Col on acid.

Spurtle wants in but he was very cheeky to TiD today!
mortonjag 2008-07-06 20:57:43
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jul 6 2008, 08:44 PM) [snapback]472488[/snapback]
From porn to finlayson in 15 posts. Genius.

There aren't many like me!


Have you ever tried humping a bald hedgehog?
mortonjag 2008-07-06 21:00:45
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jul 6 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]472490[/snapback]
Tongue was wedged firmly in cheek.

So you ARE more of a tortoise than a hare after all!
mortonjag 2008-07-06 21:03:39
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 6 2008, 08:51 PM) [snapback]472492[/snapback]
Yes, but they are still not letting me in. I am not kissing any of their hairy arses though. excl.gif

That's disgraceful-the forum needs more feminine input-at the moment there's only Mrs Ton, some bloody agony aunt, and CHC!
mortonjag 2008-07-06 21:18:25
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Jul 5 2008, 10:07 AM) [snapback]471825[/snapback]
Yip-I fancy a wee double on Nadal and Lewis Hamilton.

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YES
mortonjag 2008-07-06 21:21:53
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 6 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]472507[/snapback]
Old scabby arse has won. rolleyes.gif

He wormed his way to the championship!
mortonjag 2008-07-06 21:24:59
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 6 2008, 09:20 PM) [snapback]472508[/snapback]
As long as you do likewise with your threads. happy.gif

Willy Man is older and wiser than thee.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 21:32:23
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jul 6 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]472501[/snapback]
hey hawd on im in there too - not posted yet though cos no doubt i will get ripped apart! lol

Don't be daft-you're man enough for the lot of them! Just mention that your hamster fell asleep at the wheel and leave the rest to me! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 22:05:26
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 6 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]472520[/snapback]
Princesston, calling me a hairy arsed f***ing w*nker is not going to get you in there any quicker.

Youth, eh?

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Obviously not complimentary enough!
mortonjag 2008-07-06 22:10:36
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 6 2008, 09:48 PM) [snapback]472530[/snapback]
Quite surprised a so called business man wouldn't know the business rates cut doesn't apply until April 2009. Then, 120,000 small businesses won't be paying business rates.
As for the Council Tax, try living in England where you will see a substancial rise in CT payments, we have a freeze here in Inverclyde. As for the payment dates, I had an option of paying 7th,14th,21st or 28th of each month, so I'm unsure what you are on about there.

As for the hospitals, Ayr and Monklands was saved. They would have been closed under a Labour government, simple as that.
As far as I'm aware the Vale of Leven hospital is still open. Why don't you contact the health board to find out what's happening with the local services ??


And as far as the police is concerned there will be 1000 new police officers. You are quite wrong to suggest otherwise.

So promises delivered I would say !

........and your point is? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 22:16:41
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 6 2008, 09:53 PM) [snapback]472539[/snapback]
Yep, cutting wee boys' willies is barbaric.
Our politicians ban cutting dugs' tails and allow laddies' dicks to be chopped- mad.gif

That's true Mr Bam-it costs the taxpayer a small fortune to perform those operations safely every year 'on demand' from those who want it done for purely religious reasons. They COULD, of course, go 'private' laugh.gif

Because it's a sensible procedure from a preventive point of view (and to save the ritual barbarism of those Holy Willie choppers) those requests are invariably complied with.

When rape is inevitable-eh!
mortonjag 2008-07-06 22:24:30
QUOTE(dumbarTON @ Jul 6 2008, 10:18 PM) [snapback]472553[/snapback]
radiologists are doctors, radiographers (like me) are the ones you mean i would imagine tongue.gif

Indeed, but you're still one of the workers and not some po faced 'ward manager' promoted out of the nursing ranks and feebly attempting to justify her inflated salary by wandering around with a clip board and noting the number of dead fluorescent tubes she knows won't be replaced by direct labour until they're over 50%! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 22:29:33
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 6 2008, 09:36 PM) [snapback]472521[/snapback]
Well if Lee Robinson's still in the frame then Gonet's still a possibility. sleep.gif
Schmeichel wouldn't lower himself to our level and besides, we couldn't afford any of his wages (requiring a very favourable loan deal).
I'm afraid SmithsTON's too cryptic for me: although I'm sure the Doctor wil be on here to get all precious about something else in a minute or two.

Smiffy's a bloody doctor too.

No wonder we clash!
mortonjag 2008-07-07 06:09:05
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 6 2008, 09:29 PM) [snapback]472515[/snapback]
As previously mentioned it would appear, IMO, that several posters on this thread hate the integrity of the club being questioned, No s*** Willowman !!!

It was a legitimate question and now we have the answer.

Some folk still ain't too happy that MJ has posed a question that has now been, at long last, officially answered by the club.

I genuinely believe that Mr Donald has good intentions and will become, if he ain't already, the new owner of GMFC.



QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 6 2008, 11:50 PM) [snapback]472592[/snapback]
Upon his and DDF's release from Sing-Sing for their crimes against Companies House I wish him the very best of luck.

Willy Man, what you said is spot on, as evidenced by the other quoted post.

It's good of fat boy to keep the pot boiling though-30,000 views will do me a power of good in the self aggrandisement stakes. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-07 06:23:00
QUOTE(dumbarTON @ Jul 6 2008, 10:28 PM) [snapback]472560[/snapback]
haha yes its the radiography equivalent of "your only a nurse" laugh.gif indeed, there are 5 managers directly above a senior 2 radiographer, I mean is there any need for that many ? they would be far better to invest money into training and recruiting more nurses, doctors, radiographers etc dry.gif but nooooooooo....... lets have more managers who just sit about all day deciding to reband us into different grades if the mood takes them.

I see wee Nickerless is addressing some big conference of the NHS tomorrow-that should be interesting.

I strongly suspect it will degenerate into a rammy over private involvement versus the Holy Cow fib that it can be self sufficient as things stand.

The NHS as we know it has no future without serious thinking on funding, and some radical changes in how patients contribute to the cost of treatment.

Oh that, and ripping out the wastage. Let's go back to playing and paying 'doctors and nurses'! blush.gif


....AND radiographers TOO!!!
mortonjag 2008-07-07 06:28:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 6 2008, 10:36 PM) [snapback]472566[/snapback]
Not really, he missed the redlight because he was shocked to find Kubica and Kimi ahead of him on track (Kimi was also catching Hamilton before the safety car).
Hamilton has the luck of Satan at times (see Monaco), but when it comes to it, he doesn't quite have the quality and composure in the crunch races. biggrin.gif

I have decided to call you Sparrot on account of your tireless capacity for soaking up and regurgitating as fact, the opinions of those older and wiser than yourself.
mortonjag 2008-07-07 06:41:51
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 6 2008, 11:07 PM) [snapback]472572[/snapback]
You are fully aware of the date of the implementation of the business rate cut but fail to mention it in your original post ?? blink.gif
If they don't implement it in April 2009 then you may have a point, to criticise them for not doing so in 2008 is basically ridiculous

Council Tax is frozen in Inverclyde, something that wouldn't have happened under the last administration and doesn't happen in Labour controlled England. As for the dates, why not ask the Labour controlled Inverclyde council ?

They have saved hospitals that were ear marked for closure, what hospitals have they closed ?


Police officers, 500 recruits already funded over the three-year spending review period, 300 more recruits by spring next year, rising by another 200 the following two years = 1000 new police officers.

None dry.gif -they kept open the ones which were logistically non viable. I hated the old Labour admin with a passion, but at least they had the baws to attempt some 'necessary evil'. Sturgeon's legacy so far is an embarrassment to anybody who knows anything about health care provision. ph34r.gif

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 6 2008, 11:20 PM) [snapback]472576[/snapback]
Four people questioning Salmonds achievements ? All of whom hate him with a passion and take any and every opportunity to try and criticise him. Thankfully you are all in a minority as his personal poll ratings are very high as is the SNP.

And for "the electorate , in their numbers, are seeing him for the self fulfilling obnoxious arse that he undoubtedly is." Can you supply any evidence whatsoever to back that claim up ?

And for the umpteenth time I'm not a member of the SNP. I vote SNP as they are the party most likely to get independence for Scotland. Plus I think they are the best political party around at the moment.

You, MJ and Davie (don't know Scotsguy's politics) are just into Independence "light" or Independence with a very small (i) I'm now convinced about that more than ever.

I'm fairly notching them up-eh Spurtle.....


Shoogly, JM, Mileson, Salmond, OH and I mustn't omit that daft tennis woman whose name I've already forgotten-the one whose son attended some flag day in Lunding recently! laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-07 07:10:20
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jul 7 2008, 02:16 AM) [snapback]472607[/snapback]
An interesting footnote to this discussion. I found out this evening that the 21 year old man who was arrested and later released without charge regarding the horrific murder of two French research students is known to me.In my opinion he is both stupid enough and nasty enough to be capable of having commited this crime.He has been bitching about the keeker he says the polis gave him... laugh.gif

There is no justification for the Polis taking the law into their own hands and leaving evidence.
mortonjag 2008-07-07 07:21:15
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 6 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]472537[/snapback]
Shouldn't Andy Murray be in the fore front unsure.gif

Flush with 'failure', Mummy's bought him a big huge 'stars and stripes' for the next heist.
mortonjag 2008-07-07 07:28:10
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jul 6 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]472516[/snapback]
I'm not really, well kinda , Dak is a Buddhist and as I have no religion I have started to take on board some of her traditions and beliefs...........like watching top quality porno's for example

Then maybe you can answer a question-when the Chinese (mainly Confucians I believe) come over here, they often adopt a new name like James, Peter, or John.

Are Buddhists in favour of having Christian names too?

mortonjag 2008-07-07 07:33:05
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 6 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]472548[/snapback]
Well your good lady did say that 'size does matter' rolleyes.gif

I really feel quite sorry for the Big Willy brigade. It's no fun having to ram your tadger up an HGV exhaust when it's minus 10 C outside.
mortonjag 2008-07-07 07:36:13
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 6 2008, 11:27 PM) [snapback]472582[/snapback]
He's deid laugh.gif

Our thoughts are with the family!
mortonjag 2008-07-07 07:38:06
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 7 2008, 04:35 AM) [snapback]472610[/snapback]
He'll just spam f*** out of it. I vote no.

Maybe he'd rather be a spammer than a whale, fat boy.
mortonjag 2008-07-07 07:45:02
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jul 7 2008, 07:32 AM) [snapback]472628[/snapback]
This will be the same Daily Mail that supported Hitler then? A paper with no agenda against Muslims at all.
Thing is, only 50 years ago in Scotland priests would go round the houses of the folk who never made it to Mass.

Bang on the nail as always Mr McArthur, and no doubt kicked f*ck oot the Proddy c*nts too. ph34r.gif

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 7 2008, 07:37 AM) [snapback]472633[/snapback]
Maybe the Teachers should be publicly flogged. Better still maybe, the Editor of the Daily Mail should be beheaded. laugh.gif

Maybe for once, Mr Edwards, you should consider the difference between tolerance and capitulation. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-07 08:01:29
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jul 7 2008, 07:36 AM) [snapback]472632[/snapback]
There was a big piece in the Sunday Herald about how the Orange Lodge feel they're completely misunderstood and they want a week long 'Orange Festival' (anyone else see a logical marketing partner here?) or Glastonbury for bigots.
They're going about it completely the wrong way. They should look at the recent examples of Trump and Souter and slip a few bob in donations. I'm sure a wee bit of legislation would come their way quickstyle.

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mortonjag 2008-07-07 08:05:03
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 7 2008, 07:50 AM) [snapback]472639[/snapback]
I know the difference alright. Do you know the difference between a Daily Mail editorial and a 'Carry On' film script?
You should know, you write them both don't you? Only maybe sometimes you confuse the two? biggrin.gif

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OH indeed- I can see the spin from both sides!

Was the story concocted?
mortonjag 2008-07-07 08:07:58
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 7 2008, 08:02 AM) [snapback]472641[/snapback]
In our present day, 'let's celebrate diversity' multi cultural society, an 'Orange Fest' might not be a problem. Just as long as the other lot had their shout as well with a 'Feenyin Fest' perhaps. As Dr Mentaljag says, I'm all for tolerance and understanding.

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I can't tolerate those orange c*nts, and couldn't begin to understand them. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-07 08:12:13
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 7 2008, 08:08 AM) [snapback]472644[/snapback]
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Infamy! Infamy! The Muslims have got it in for me!



I've taught the Monkey how to pray to God, Allah, and Shoogly. He's also well versed in the principles of Yogi and Boo Boo.
mortonjag 2008-07-07 08:19:30
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 6 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]472216[/snapback]
Enough of your insults. tongue.gif

You wouldn't recognise an insult if it landed on your chocolate brownie!

QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 7 2008, 07:33 AM) [snapback]472630[/snapback]
Bawheid's lot always talk a good game.
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You just cant help yourself can you? I think your her secret admirer! wub.gif laugh.gif

Wee Nickerless-och aye-I've nothing personal against the wee soul-in fact I wouldn't mind dipping my wick in her saltire sporran provided she'd had a recent shave and I was prepared thus: bag.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-07 08:28:05
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 7 2008, 07:30 AM) [snapback]472627[/snapback]
If I was ever to leave Scotland for good , which is unlikely, I would prefer to go to Canada or New Zealand.

It's impossible to turn back the clock. I sometimes wish I had emigrated when I was in my late twenties, and the opportunity presented. I DON'T see very much about our current British/Scottish society which fills me with any hope for a brighter future.

Probably just the grudging thoughts of a bitter old man who was brought up in a more principled, law abiding society.

I think I'll run away and join a Kibbutz-maybe Mr Edwards will come with me, and perhaps Mr Bam too.

We'd soon sort out the effin Orange Juice.
mortonjag 2008-07-07 08:32:27
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 7 2008, 08:25 AM) [snapback]472648[/snapback]
You're right. I'm too tolerant and understanding.

Don't you mean 'caring'? blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-07 08:34:23
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 7 2008, 08:17 AM) [snapback]472646[/snapback]
An unholy trinity? laugh.gif Surely that lot would fall out. There can only be one Chairman of the Board after all.

God help Allah and vice versa.
mortonjag 2008-07-07 08:48:29
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 7 2008, 08:40 AM) [snapback]472652[/snapback]
You've gone too far. Some might think I'm a Do-gooder in the PC brigade. But I don't give a feck. laugh.gif



I never REALLY thought you were.....em......pathetic!
mortonjag 2008-07-07 08:58:54
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Jul 7 2008, 08:46 AM) [snapback]472653[/snapback]
The only one of them I would keep is McGregor. He has battled his way through injuries to come back fitter and stronger. He can play as a full-back which makes him the only natural left-back in the squad. He can also play in the middle and with Laurel and Hardy missing the start of the season that could be helpful.

The best performance I've seen at left back in the last couple of seasons came from Dean Keenan. Alex Walker also put in a few reasonable shifts in that unnatural role.

Plenty has been said about DM's attitude, professionalism, and loyalty. Unfortunately those qualities do not compensate for his lack of speed at full back, lack of aerial ability at centre back, and lack of composure in midfield.

I reckon he's a good all round Pro, who I believe found his level in Division 2. Hopefully for David, I'll be proved wrong.
mortonjag 2008-07-07 09:09:57
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 7 2008, 08:56 AM) [snapback]472657[/snapback]
Very true I had the oppertunity early doors to migrate to Australia and had a change of heart at the last minute, but I dont spend any time wondering what if? its pointless!



Believe it or not, the thing that now gets me more than anything about Scotland is the weather. I'm one of those S.A.D. people who NEED sunshine. It seems to me that when I was a boy, summer was summer, and winter was winter. Today it's like bloody November, and no doubt we'll have June like days come October.

Sometimes I could greet! crying.gif crying.gif crying.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-07 10:04:21
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jul 7 2008, 10:01 AM) [snapback]472692[/snapback]
We've only got his word for it! Probably walked ito a door.... happy.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-07 13:26:02
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 7 2008, 11:55 AM) [snapback]472729[/snapback]
Ah the Daily Mail...can guarantee a straight down-the-middle style of reporting there laugh.gif

Interesting to hear that you read the 'Mail'.

Which would be your recommended reading for totally unbiased reporting? mellow.gif

Oh-and WAS the story concocted?
mortonjag 2008-07-07 13:32:08 Head of parks Peter Wilkinson said the council had strong equality policies to protect the interests of all groups, irrespective of their sexuality.

"The general public are unhappy about people taking part in lewd behaviour in public spaces, whether it's between men and women or people of the same sex," he said.




To be honest, I'm less concerned about poofters shagging than I am about Polis sniffer dogs having to wear plastic bootees! laugh.gif

What INDEED, is our world coming to? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-07 13:37:32
QUOTE(RadolfZitler @ Jul 7 2008, 11:31 AM) [snapback]472722[/snapback]
Very true all people in favour of independence have to stick together on that issue. The only one party capable of delivering independence is the SNP. I am not a member nor do i agree with them on all issues in the same way i will never agree with any political party on all issues but i would rather argue that in an independent Scotland.

On this issue of the SNP and Salmond being shown up i can accept that from MentalJag he obviously needs his medication increased but some others should have a good look at themsleves when they claim to be in favour of Scots Independence. The best weapon for the unionists is for us all to argue.

Its quite funny MJ 2 weeks ago the unionists were saying support for independence was only 19% some rise in a few weeks must be a revolution.



Mortonjag has no interest in the Unionists-Mortonjag quoted the results of a respected independent laugh.gif poll.

Mortonjag's medication is a matter for Mortonjag.

Bawheid is an embarrassment to our Nation-and a BALLOON to boot.
mortonjag 2008-07-07 15:33:51
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 7 2008, 02:10 PM) [snapback]472809[/snapback]
Away and lie in your piss. And it's Jessie.

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mortonjag 2008-07-07 15:38:22
QUOTE(tontastic @ Jul 7 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]472777[/snapback]
Suggestion is the author is Peter Oborne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Oborne ). Interesting analysis on one of his previous stories here http://bb.nsmb.com/showthread.php?t=112799. Amazing how a little spin or plausible explanation can make or break a story. Those without an agenda are left wondering what really happened.

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You'll need to introduce me to them, my good chap! dry.gif

QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 7 2008, 02:56 PM) [snapback]472839[/snapback]
I would worry about that.
There's lots of good teachers about, but there are some imcompetent ones too.

I will be interested to see how this plays out.

Indeed it will Mr Bam-I'd imagine it's the work of some evil infiltrative Christian extremist group. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-07 15:43:04
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 7 2008, 02:59 PM) [snapback]472841[/snapback]
The thing comes up saying password, as i said i'm not daft.

If the truth were told Princess, I suspect that the Mods think you're just too nice and sweet to be exposed to some of the stuff the Jessie boys are up to.
I don't necessarily agree! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-07 15:53:08
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 7 2008, 03:19 PM) [snapback]472852[/snapback]
Greacen2000 did the board a fine service by starting the ball rolling, as it were. Your contribution has mainly been fantasising about the (non-existent) jail time awaiting DDF. In this sense you are correct - your self-aggrandisement continues apace.

If only you knew the truth about that Augustus, you'd have even more egg all over your chubby chops, but keep them coming-we're almost at the 30,000. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Give my love to JR if you see him BTW!
mortonjag 2008-07-07 15:57:12 Well Bawheid seems to think 16-18 year olds will vote for him-hmm-maybe our Mods are right after all! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-07 16:02:09
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 7 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]472787[/snapback]
Actually...it says on the posters for a film it is for over 18s...but also the last thing you see before the film starts is the BBFC certificate showing it is 18 +

...kinda the same wink.gif happy.gif

Would that be 'actually', as in 'really', 'definitely', 'positively', 'indubitably' an' fingz?
mortonjag 2008-07-07 16:10:31
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 7 2008, 03:59 PM) [snapback]472880[/snapback]
You hinted at "the truth" before as you scrambled desperately up the sunny slopes of Mount Credit-Taking.

In one particularly hilarious post you even rewrote history to suggest that it was you, and only you, who had uncovered the shocking truth that will rock the criminal justice system of this country to its core biggrin.gif

Anyway, I'm sure you'l be in touch with your friends in the tabloid press who can see to it that justice is served, right after they're finished dealing with the Stan Webster debacle.

Or was that a hollow threat as well? biggrin.gif

That's the 30,000 up Augustus, and well over 600 posts. The self aggrandisement's coming on in leaps and bounds.

It's just fascinating what one can achieve by telling tall tales-EH?

Have another burger on me. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-07 16:34:03
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 7 2008, 04:14 PM) [snapback]472888[/snapback]
I know, and I'm fine with being an accessory thereof.

Excellent-we'll be at 35,000 before we know it then!

The point is that you didn't tell or reveal anything. Others did. As always.

The point is Augustus, that others know the truth, and it's quite amusing that they are happy to let you have your 'day in the sun'. Mortonjag, of course, could reveal his sources, and those who were fed information by him, but, as always, Mortonjag has a strong sense of confidentiality. smile.gif


As a doctor you should surely be recommending more wholesome foodstuffs than a burger!


As a mere layman, you shouldn't be telling a doctor what to recommend for folk who like stuffing their faces. Mortonjag is a kind person, and the truth can be hurtful.
mortonjag 2008-07-07 17:23:32
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 7 2008, 04:42 PM) [snapback]472899[/snapback]
CODE
MEMEMEMEMEMEMEEEEE




You really are crying out for attention. Texas is a BIG place-maybe you just need a wee 'There, there'!

Mortonjag LOVES being the centre of attraction-everybody knows that. bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif

It's very sad that an uninformed little nobody is attempting to bask in Mortonjag's limelight.

It's even sadder that an uninformed little nobody presumes to make inaccurate and libellous statements about Mortonjag. dry.gif

Sad, that is, for the uninformed little nobody, whose chubby cheeks are now literally dripping with egg yolk! laugh.gif laugh.gif



............but keep them coming sonny, your spade is getting shinier by the minute, and the deeper your hole becomes, the more Mortonjag's self aggrandisement bandwagon rolls on. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-07 17:28:23 Kidman.


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mortonjag 2008-07-07 18:14:56
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 7 2008, 05:34 PM) [snapback]472935[/snapback]
lol libellous

Will you be greetin' to the papers about libel as well? biggrin.gif




Yes Nach0-that WAS the term I used and as an ex Moderator you should perhaps exercise a wee bit more care before publicising retrievable material.


li·bel
–noun
1. Law.
a. defamation by written or printed words, pictures, or in any form other than by spoken words or gestures.
b. the act or crime of publishing it.
c. a formal written declaration or statement, as one containing the allegations of a plaintiff or the grounds of a charge.
2. anything that is defamatory or that maliciously or damagingly misrepresents




Greacen2000 did the board a fine service by starting the ball rolling, as it were. Your contribution has mainly been fantasising




You hinted at "the truth" before as you scrambled desperately up the sunny slopes of Mount Credit-Taking.

In one particularly hilarious post you even rewrote history


The point is that you didn't tell or reveal anything. Others did. As always
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The truth is that I DON'T speculate. Everything I have claimed about this particular issue can be proved-much of it by dated documentary evidence.


There is no question of my taking a civil action against you-that is risible-but you ARE guilty of libellous comments made in an attempt to discredit me. It is quite as simple as that.


It would do your credibility no end of good if you could see fit to retract the highlighted statements-with or without an apology.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 06:09:25
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 7 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]472960[/snapback]
... or which other people have claimed and you've taken credit for - a legal grey area to be sure.

Not only am I neither going to offer a retraction nor an apology, but I am also going to speculate that you may just be teetering on the brink of the deep end here.

I eaglery await the extradition order. biggrin.gif

Vulturely?

QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 7 2008, 06:26 PM) [snapback]472961[/snapback]
Grow up MJ, people are allowed to disagree with you.

Libellous comments do not equate to disagreement.

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 7 2008, 06:28 PM) [snapback]472963[/snapback]
Only if you're over a certain age, have a full clean driving licence and an incessant urge to spank "wee pink botties".

Correct SPARROT, and don't you forget it son.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 06:13:39
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 7 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]472960[/snapback]
... or which other people have claimed and you've taken credit for - a legal grey area to be sure.

Not only am I neither going to offer a retraction nor an apology, but I am also going to speculate that you may just be teetering on the brink of the deep end here.

I eaglery await the extradition order. biggrin.gif

Just you leave the speculation to me son and stick to the truth. You've made a big enough arse of yourself already.

I've had a chat with Greacen and some other adults in the last twelve hours. The common advice appears to be that you're 'not worth it'.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 06:27:25
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 7 2008, 10:15 PM) [snapback]473153[/snapback]
Threave Rovers 0 Morton 9
This was a much a stroll in the park for Morton as the score suggests. Threave Rovers had no answer to Morton, particularly in the first half when more or less the first team was on the park. This included trialist Graham Smith from Rangers (another 6 footer!) at left back and the initial line up was:

Stewart
Weatherson McManus Trialist (Graham Smith)
Finlayson McGuffie Masterton Paartalu McAllister
Wake Russell


Threave held out against the odds for 13 minutes until Wake opened the scoring. He went on to score a hat trick before half time. In between, Russell got one and had another knocked off for offside when he was on and Wake who was not interfering with play was off. Russell could also have had a hat trick by half time if he had put away a couple of his numerous one on ones with the keeper. MCAllister made it five just on half time.

Its hard to take much from a match against this quality of opposition but the whole team looked up for it and there was a good spirit about them. McManus was seldom troubled at centre back, if a bit lacking in pace and Stewart did’nt have a save to make. Paartalu was excellent as the main midfield ball winner and Masterton ran things. Passing was generally excellent.

In the second half Stevenson and Newby replaced McGuffie and Russell. Within 5 minutes Newby had made it 6 with a close in effort. The subs now came thick and fast with Graham, Lee Mitchell, Lee Kerrigan and a mysterious number 22 replacing Finlayson, Paartalu, McAllister and Wake. Before he went off Paartalu scored the goal of the game with a 30 yard dipper. Newby scored after a scramble and Masterton completed the scoring with a beautifully placed shot curled just inside the keeper’s right hand post. Graham contrived to fire one over from 3yards out and then hit the bar with a cracking shot from just outside the box.

An encouraging fact was the display by Stevenson when he came on. He sprayed the passes about and showed a decent attitude. Maybe there’s hope there yet! Also excellent was Graham Smith's display at the back. He is certainly worth another look.

This was a decent run out for the team against very poor opposition who have their keeper to thank for it not being a cricket score �“ he had at least 6-8 great saves. I think that the next two games against Tow Law and Durham City may be a sterner test.

Edited to say: Second half we had Carlisle reserve keeper Adam somebody on. Looked OK if a bit small for a keeper.

Thanks for the report.

Obviously just a warm up/stroll in the park, and don't think we should take too much from it. I see the Ayr game as perhaps being the first chance we have to assess how much better we've got.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 06:45:11
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 7 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]473083[/snapback]
BUMP!

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QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 7 2008, 11:58 PM) [snapback]473205[/snapback]
BUMP!

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Scott Gillan, your public awaits you! ph34r.gif




Oh don't it hurt deep inside
To see someone do something to her
Oh don't it pain to see someone cry
How especially if that someone is her

Silence is golden, but my eyes still see
Silence is golden, golden, but my eyes still see

Talking is cheap people follow like sheep
Even though there is no where to go
How could she tell he decieved her so well
Pity she'll be the last one to know

How many times will she fall for his lines
Should I tell her or should I be cool
And if I tried I know she'd say I lied
Mind your business don't hurt her you fool

Silence is golden, but my eyes still see
Silence is golden, golden, but my eyes still see
mortonjag 2008-07-08 06:53:10
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jul 7 2008, 04:47 PM) [snapback]472907[/snapback]
The subject of homosexuality gets discussed constantly on here by *cough* 'straight men'. I've got a few gay friends and they never talk about straight people shagging. In fact I've very rarely heard them talking about shagging at all.

Standard homophobe cop out! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-08 07:02:54
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 7 2008, 09:20 PM) [snapback]473102[/snapback]
I don't think he's a moron. I do think he's a pompous, arrogant, self-opinionated, plagiarising little fanny though.

That's my

SPARROT



Half sponge, half parrot, and destined to get his c*nt kicked in as soon as he's old enough to drink with the big boys. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-08 07:06:40
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jul 7 2008, 11:15 PM) [snapback]473200[/snapback]
It used to be Maggie now it's just every other t*** on the telly.... mad.gif

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At the moment mine's got to be Margaret Curran-and she hasn't even started! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-08 07:09:49
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 7 2008, 05:14 PM) [snapback]472920[/snapback]
Breaking News - nobody cares.

What a cryptic comment SPARROT.

Is it the title of a new dirge you're penning as an autobiogaphy?
mortonjag 2008-07-08 07:13:44
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 7 2008, 05:41 PM) [snapback]472942[/snapback]
Nope but I see no reason why I'd want to.

Good shout SPARROT-you're MUCH safer here.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 07:18:57
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jul 7 2008, 03:50 PM) [snapback]472874[/snapback]
Hello Mr Jag, just joined the board. I am related to someone on here, can you guess who??

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mortonjag 2008-07-08 07:22:49
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 8 2008, 12:20 AM) [snapback]473222[/snapback]
Do not ever and i mean ever class me in that way, i canny stand the b*****ds




Sorry Mr Gillan Gibby!
mortonjag 2008-07-08 07:25:46
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 7 2008, 09:48 PM) [snapback]473131[/snapback]
What's the point of this Forum if we just let anyone in with all due respect to Deego, who I think is pretty much alright now.

The content on here is clearly of an 18+ nature and I'd be well pissed off if any of my daughters were posting on here and they were allowed to view such content.

I was even going to suggest they raise the age limit to 21 after some of the stuff, now of which I am offended or bothered by, that has been posted.

I was going to suggest 25! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-08 07:36:40
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 8 2008, 01:01 AM) [snapback]473262[/snapback]
No...as in 'actually'.

To be honest, at this moment in time it's my personal opinion that you may be correct, actually.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 08:14:46 I noticed that wee SPARROT was getting his rocks off about last night's Channel 4 dispatches. Fortunately he can't regurgitate from his big books on this very mature and select oracle.

Interestingly, I read an article in yesterdays Sun (aye folks ph34r.gif ) by Trevor Kavanagh, who is a buddy of last night's presenter, entitled 'Islamophobia, or cold hard truth'?

Unsurprisingly, I found myself agreeing with most of Kavanagh's splurge, and his final paragraph about Gina Khan, the brave and outspoken Muslim journalist reads---


'Is she Islamophobic too-or is she a lonely voice on behalf of millions of women who are being ignored and gagged by a politically correct establishment which is too timid to face the truth?'


He also quotes Syrian born Dr Wafa Sultan---'Only the Muslims defend their beliefs by killing people, burning churches, and bombing embassies'.

Islam is a religion-misgivings about Islam cannot be construed as racist. Islam appears determined to impose itself on the Western world wherever, and whenever it has the opportunity.

I find it puzzling that so many 'ordinary' folk seem not only content to let that happen, but see fit to ridicule others who are are perhaps less beholden to knee jerking 'political correctness'.

My Dad was an extremely gentle and almost painfully non judgemental man. In the latter years of his life he commented to me on several occasions that his 'biggest fear for the future' was what he described as 'Fundamental Islam'. My Dad was a highly intelligent man and a deep thinker, and he rarely seemed to get things wrong except when he was trying to cook!

So, I pose Kavanagh's question here. Islamophobia---or cold hard truth?


mortonjag 2008-07-08 09:00:10
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Jul 8 2008, 08:43 AM) [snapback]473334[/snapback]
Islamophobia.

Being against someone because of their religion isn't regarded as racism oubviously. I am against Scientology, but not racist. However, you would have to be an absolute fool if you didn't think that the colour of a muslims skin had anything to do with it.

The kind of people that are 'afraid' of Islam are so because the media tells them to be. I know that sounds paranoid to bugger, but it's a fact - fear sells newspapers and makes people tune into news programmes.

When going on an aeroplane a good friend of mine told me how he cried as his dad and uncles were forced into a tiny cell and asked all sorts of questions as they were believed to be terrorists. This wasn't yesterday on a plane to Pakistan, but in the 1990s, going to Dublin as my mates family are catholic. It has happened before and have proved, on the most part, fruitless. Not every catholic is an IRA bomber.

But although catholics were considered foreign, they are still white, so it wasn't quite as bad for them as it is now for our muslim population.



You reckon white Catholics were considered 'foreign' in the nineties.

I worked in a white RC Practice in Coatbridge throughout the seventies, and I can state categorically that if anybody was considered 'foreign' I was, because I wasn't a practising Catholic.

Mind you almost everybody was white, and at least nominally Christian.

We had a few Muslim patients-almost all shopkeepers or their familes. I did notice they were brown, and the ladies wore 'the gear', but I was never conscious of them trying to force anything on me except prescriptions for 'big' bottles of Benylin and so on-just like their white contemporaries did.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 09:20:40
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 8 2008, 07:09 AM) [snapback]473315[/snapback]
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At the moment mine's got to be Margaret Curran-and she hasn't even started! ph34r.gif
[/quote Damn I missed her off my list, consider yourself added misses Curran!


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QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 8 2008, 07:18 AM) [snapback]473319[/snapback]
Maybe not. I hear that Alex Salmond likes them too.




I always thought they were a pair of tartan pouffes.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 10:29:01
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 8 2008, 10:10 AM) [snapback]473355[/snapback]
Don't know. A mistake if it's true.

Want to be the complete class clipe and give us the name so we can remove them ?
Or did you just want another moan about why you're not allowed in, despite being told umpteen times it's because of the rules of the forum which state over 18's only.

As for your very last post ..... in order,

1) People are only talking about you in there because someone asked could we make an exception for you
2) the answer was no based on the under 18 rule.
3) I haven't even replied to the thread in question - Edinton, Tontastic, BH and myself had long conversations about whether there should be an age limit - bottom line is that there is - we ain't changing it - for matters legal and for lots of other reasons - some of which are best demonstrated in these 15 pages !
4) telling tales about another under 18 who has mistakenly made it in, AND calling us b*****ds does absolutely hee-haw to enhance your chances of getting in, and indeed I am now firmly in the "no" camp, when I was coming around to the gentle persuasions of others to have a rethink.
5) Well done - result for yourself.

TonInDublin

ps. yeah I know point 6 will be for me to poke the forum up my arse - way ahead of you, spare the typing.



I can suggest many nicer things starting with my wil..oops wrong forum!
mortonjag 2008-07-08 10:40:05
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 8 2008, 10:03 AM) [snapback]473352[/snapback]
Their one and only fan! lol! biggrin.gif
Not at all, the lyrical cadences in "Nobody's Child" reveal a total understanding of the dark depths of the human soul whilst the wailing and utterly heartwrenching chordal structures of the music were perfectly in tune with the 60's zeitgeist.
Tom and Jack's oeuvre will never be challenged for it's understanding of the duality of human existence.

...though they were undoubtedly less umbilically cordial than Fran and Anna.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 10:48:01
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jul 8 2008, 10:03 AM) [snapback]473353[/snapback]
Erm, not it's not. I do have a few gay friends. Not many but a few. And I'm not claiming anything, just stating a fact.

You were spotted yesterday sitting beside a brown pouffe.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 10:56:33
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 8 2008, 10:42 AM) [snapback]473375[/snapback]
Did anyone else ever wonder if they did the odd bit of drinking from the furry cup ? Or was it just me ?

TonInDublin

Possibly-they were Coatbridge sisters-never married-and used to drive to gigs in their full highland gear! Apparently a pair of homely wee souls too.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 12:29:27 Coatbridge legend Anna 'delighted' with messages of support

May 14 2008 Airdrie & Coatbridge Advertiser

SHOWBIZ friends and the Monklands public have been sending cards and flowers to Anna – the surviving half of Coatbridge variety act legends Fran and Anna.

The 83–year–old trouper is being cared for at St Andrew’s Hospice although her illness is not believed to be life-threatening.

Bubbly Anna and sister Fran – who died five years ago – entertained fans around the globe in a long career on the stage and TV.

And she is now said to be delighted at the many messages of support and kind words that have been passed on as she receives expert care in the Airdrie hospice.

One source close to the family told the Advertiser: “Anna was taken into St Andrew’s Hospice a couple of weeks ago but it was not because she is terminally ill.

“She is in really good spirits and has been delighted by the many cards she has received from well-wishers. She has had plenty of visitors and has been sitting chatting away about old times.â€

A spokesman for St Andrew’s Hospice told us that it was their policy not to comment on individual patients but confirmed that they do care for patients with a range of needs.

He said: “While the majority of patients require specialist end–of–life care, others come to the hospice for respite and longer term care.â€

The Advertiser believes that Anna is responding well to the caring environment of the hospice and the large number of cards and letters of support she has received from across Scotland.

Fran and Anna’s career in show business started out when they were children and followed in the footsteps of their entertainer father.

Their long career reached its peak in the 1970s when they became household names after regular appearances on STV’s ‘Thingummyjig’ show.

As stalwarts of the Scottish variety scene for around 70 years, their brand of light entertainment included singing traditional and modern songs.

Their trademark costumes, including tartan miniskirts and bonnets, were instantly recognisable.

Fran and Anna, who were managed by sister Lily until her death in 1998, performed with all of the top names in British variety.

Showbiz pals Sir Terry Wogan and Johnnie Beattie were among those who paid tribute to the tartan duo and wished Anna “all the best




I believe she died a wee while later.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 12:39:22
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jul 8 2008, 12:33 PM) [snapback]473423[/snapback]
No problem at all Mr McB. I don't have any black friends yet. Does mixed race count?
We threw out our brown pouffe last week.

My old pouffes have always been made welcome by 'Children in Need'.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 12:44:33 A Tory MP in Barrowfield is almost as ludicrous as Bawheid trying to look sincere.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 12:53:29 I came across some funny (genuine) names including (Philomena) Phil McCracken, Shona Legge, and Isa Cumming.

Less suggestive but equally memorable were George Street and Willie Black.

There are dozens more, and of course you can make them up as you go. I'm assured, BTW that Pocahontas McGinty indeed exists and has a brother called Elvis.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 13:11:52
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 8 2008, 01:08 PM) [snapback]473439[/snapback]
I remember winding up my family when the wee fella was born as I told them we were going to call him Sterling tongue.gif

John Long
mortonjag 2008-07-08 13:14:54
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 8 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]473432[/snapback]
Was it a National day of mourning .
raise your glass of sugarally watur .

is their memory .

The thingamyjig dancers will be reeling at half pace

Indeed many wallies would have been waggling!
mortonjag 2008-07-08 13:17:33 Birching IS a feasible answer.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 13:20:27
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jul 8 2008, 01:13 PM) [snapback]473445[/snapback]
id sum the the new forum up as: more than you ever wanted to know about the sex lifes of your fellow posters

You are far too generous.

More like the sexual fantasies of a few frustrated wee boys plus Mortonjag's love for dead hedgehogs.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 13:34:58
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jul 8 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]473451[/snapback]
annette curtain - another one i have heard of and been assured it is real and bridie pye, another one im assured on

If you are one of the Fitz's, you don't have a chance

William Fitzpatrick and Patrick Fitzwilliam etc.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 13:38:52
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Jul 8 2008, 01:27 PM) [snapback]473454[/snapback]
NA...that bawbag only agreed terms as far as I remember...was about to put pen to paper when-thankfully-he fooked off to dungfee. We were ABOUT to sign him up to that point...

That's correct Mr Rae and Gillian had made a 'gentleman's agreement laugh.gif with Sturm and his agent, having paid all the expenses for his trial with Morton.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 13:43:04
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 8 2008, 01:39 PM) [snapback]473462[/snapback]
I think its a myth that Cuthbert is all that good, he's never been able to hold onto the first choice place at St Johnstone in about 8 years. I think he's had one season as first choice, and after that he was replaced by an ever ageing Alan Main who is quite frankly terrible everytime ive seen him in the last 3 or 4 years.

St Johnstone fans certainly weren't sad to see him go, i'd say he's just another young prospect who never quite realised his potential and St Johnstone realised it was time to give up on him.



I'd much rather see us sign an 'over the hill' SPL player like Main was/is.

The one position we still MUST fill is goalie--FFS please get it right this time. We've not had an outstanding keeper in the whole time Shoogly's been manager.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 13:48:32
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jul 8 2008, 01:44 PM) [snapback]473467[/snapback]
C'mon wait for it
It's coming
Pull yourself together.
I know coat is on.

For that I shall call you a velvet pouffe.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 13:50:30 Donkey Dave's daughter in law Rhoda Mair.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 14:01:15
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 8 2008, 01:45 PM) [snapback]473469[/snapback]
one thing about Castle Douglas though, their cars dont stop when you're crossing the road. Me and Deego both almost got ran over at different times. Also while eating a sausage supper one of the locals came out the pub and went " that fish looks good " which scared us.

we also saw someone who literally looked about 12-14 driving a car, me and Deego just looked at each other like " mellow.gif did you just see that? "

Not to mention the 70 year old linesman who kept talking to himself during the game, including when Morton were attacking near the end he just randomly shouted " IM SORRY ".
crazy crazy people.

Oh I'm sure thae Good people of Castle DOUGLAS found you lot every bit as queer as you found them.

I've warned you before about Deego's 'sausage suppers'-no wonder the poor local thought you were eating fish-those country folk have an excellent sense of smell.

And as for your horrid comments about my wee brother-just wait until you're his age-that was probably the most important game he's ever done last night, and you mock him for being sad at only having taken it up at 67. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-08 14:05:15
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 8 2008, 01:48 PM) [snapback]473471[/snapback]
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blush.gif

There is NO way out of that genuine slip! bag.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-08 14:16:11
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jul 8 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]473485[/snapback]
In times gone by you might have found yourself in the company of bedbugs! As you settled down for the night out they'd come,looking for BLOOD! After sucking you dry they would depart and around this time you get a reaction to their bite and start scratching... unsure.gif

I believe they're making a bit of a comeback too..

laugh.gif

I've also heard of one's bed referred to as a 'flea pit', or more commonly nowadays just 'yer pit'.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 14:20:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 8 2008, 02:09 PM) [snapback]473491[/snapback]
laugh.gif we actually said at one point, i bet the linesman is Mortonjag tongue.gif

Well you shoudn't have.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 14:30:02
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 8 2008, 02:15 PM) [snapback]473494[/snapback]
Christianity can cover about 1000 (at the last count) religions who claim to have the teachings of Christ and The Bible at their core - if you subscribe to the theory that Christianity is a religion.

I would define Christianity (and therefore keep it seperate from religion) as system of beliefs and practices, founded on faith, and based on the education and teachings of Jesus and the Bible.

So whats the difference ? Let me try an example. I was born a Protestant and attended chuch regularly till I hit about 20. I now worship in a Catholic church here in Ireland and don't see myself as a hypocrite. I don't judge between the two religions because at their heart they are based on Christian beliefs. I took Communion in the Church in Scotland and I take it in the Catholic church in Ireland. I'm sure Jesus will forgive my foibles when he decides it's time to call my number. I try and live my life through respect of others, trying to love and be loved, and attempting to treat everyone I meet with dignity, friendship and respect. The fact that I fail miserably sometimes is a measure of my fallibility, but it doesn't stop me trying to learn from my mistakes, treat each individual on their merits and live and let live. I believe that the Bible is a very good barometer for each man to treat his fellow men, and its teachings are as valid now as they were when it was written.

Indeed, for the Theologians amongst you, there is a strong argument that Jesus actually outlawed religion.

I see Christianity as way more than a badge I wear, or a side I take, or a battle line I draw.
It's about how I think life should be lived, and a set of morals and ideals that are relevant in todays world.

I can't be arsed googling for it - but The Regnal Principles are what I tend to focus on - I was a member of the Regnal in Scotland, and sadly fell away from it as my own relationships changed in those days. But it's something I always look back on with regret. If someone wants to do the needful and post the link it'd be a good education for others maybe.

So I absolutely differentiate Christianity from religion. And when or if you can yourself, I think you see things a wee bit differently.

Maybe just me though.

TonInDublin





Christianity had its Crusades against the 'infidel'. Is Islam just getting its own back?
mortonjag 2008-07-08 14:45:42
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jul 8 2008, 02:39 PM) [snapback]473520[/snapback]
no numpty... the christains were the ' infidels' in the crusades... and muslims still refer to christains as such today...

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Infidel (literally "one without faith") is an English word meaning "one who doubts or rejects central tenets of a religion or has no religious beliefs", especially in reference to Christianity or Islam.[1][2][3][4][5]

In Christianity the term was traditionally used by the Roman Catholic Church to refer to one who did not believe in the divinity of Jesus, knowingly held beliefs that contradicted Catholic dogma, or one who had not been baptized,[6][7] or by Christians in general to describe non-Christians or those perceived as enemies of Christianity, including Muslims.[4][8] Current English speaking Catholic ecclesiastical usage however distinguishes between non-Christians and non-believers (persons without religious affiliations or beliefs)

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mortonjag 2008-07-08 14:50:22
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 8 2008, 02:33 PM) [snapback]473514[/snapback]
it was your wrist action with that flag, we'd both seen that wrist action before.

Pair of tossers.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 14:53:48
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 8 2008, 02:40 PM) [snapback]473521[/snapback]
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I'm afraid our social spheres are bound never to merge, in a Venn diagram stylee. sleep.gif

Have your social spheres got any hair on yet son?
mortonjag 2008-07-08 14:58:49
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 8 2008, 02:45 PM) [snapback]473524[/snapback]
O look, he's learned how to use crayons.
Give the wean a high five.

Now, now, there's no need to be silly. You know why you were christened SPARROT, and the name will stick.

The big boys are having a superbly mature debate about Islamophobia on the new forum BTW-only four years to go and you can let rip to your heart's content.

.....and you know something-not one of them has called another silly names yet SPARROT!
mortonjag 2008-07-08 15:05:50
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 8 2008, 02:58 PM) [snapback]473538[/snapback]
I've never seen as much cheap nylon since Upaclose last went shopping for troosers. Their gussets must have been permanently howling. Bet you could have wrung out their Jimmy Durantes after a show. And there must have been some bang off their trotters as well.

TonInDublin



It's a well documented fact that they got dressed for their gigs in their bedroom at home, and drove to the venue. One night I was heading East into Coatbridge, and had to stop at the main traffic lights at Bargeddie. I glanced over and facing me were Fran and Anna, in their motor- COMPLETE WITH THE BUNNETS ON.

I didn't know at that point that they lived in Coatbridge, until I checked with my colleagues the following day! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-08 15:15:46
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jul 8 2008, 03:07 PM) [snapback]473550[/snapback]
Was it Halloween by any chance? wink.gif



You might well have imagined so, but I recall it was early evening and still light.

I read Anna's obituary-quite an extensive spiel from somebody who had known the sisters well, and that confirmed (I'd occasionally doubted myself ) that indeed they always went to gigs fully prepared, which brings us to TiD's question, and that of how often (if EVER) they actually undressed! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-08 15:20:35
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jul 8 2008, 02:56 PM) [snapback]473535[/snapback]
Why do people keep bringing this up to the top. I'm not sure that is a fair thing to do.

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mortonjag 2008-07-08 15:25:38
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Jul 8 2008, 03:19 PM) [snapback]473571[/snapback]
Morecambe fans have a Jon Newby bebo appreciation page & I asked if he was any good on it. A Burton Albion fan states that Nigel Clough has given an interview stating that Newby has signed for them as he doesn't want to move his family up North! ohmy.gif
Whats goin on? Has he signed or not?

Maybe this is the Positive Double Donald syndrome and he's signed TWICE by mistake.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 15:37:35
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jul 8 2008, 03:25 PM) [snapback]473578[/snapback]
Can't be qualified because everyone knows the linesman and refs are never wrong aka Hamilton. laugh.gif



You misunderstand-he kept saying 'SAW RAE, SAW RAE'.Those bumpkins rarely get a peep at celebrities.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 15:40:04
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 8 2008, 03:32 PM) [snapback]473585[/snapback]
Because I want to be in a protected forum, so, er, I can swear uncensored. blink.gif
You really think this forum is the crux of my life, acting as the same crutch mechanism as it does for you, don't you?

SPARROT-could you do that again in plain English please? wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-08 15:54:19
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jul 8 2008, 03:24 PM) [snapback]473577[/snapback]
sorry....got it wrong.. you were right mj, I now know what it feels like to be trick or bawheid....

No NO-you got it right too-the problem is that those films you watch don't have subtitles, so the guys fighting the Christians call them 'infidels' instead of saying.......


Ù…Ù‚Ø¨ÙˆØ¶Û Ú©Ø´Ù…ÛŒØ±:غلام نبی آزاد مستعÙی،گورنر راج Ù†Ø§ÙØ°
» Ù…ÙˆØ¬ÙˆØ¯Û Ø­Ú©ÙˆÙ…Øª اور مشر٠دور میں کوئی ÙØ±Ù‚ Ù†Ûیں:عمران خان
» امریکی سÙیر,اسÙند یار ملاقات,ÙØ§Ù¹Ø§ آپریشن پر ØªØ¨Ø§Ø¯Ù„Û Ø®ÛŒØ§Ù„
mortonjag 2008-07-08 15:59:32
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 8 2008, 03:42 PM) [snapback]473593[/snapback]
I could but I've elected not to.

Credit where due-you are a quick learner SPARROT damn that Monkey-he's off with my pink crayon.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 16:26:01
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 8 2008, 04:11 PM) [snapback]473616[/snapback]
Suckers....

HAHAHA-is this you Spurtle-I've been expecting you-altogether now

MARGARET CURRAN IS A C*NT, MARGARET CURRAN IS A C*NT, MARGARET CURRAN IS A C*NT!


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mortonjag 2008-07-08 16:33:04
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 8 2008, 04:11 PM) [snapback]473615[/snapback]
Like cheese?
The two are not connected, the second statement attests to the general Jessiness of your character. happy.gif

ETA, respect to you for going out with a branny burd though, or were the beer goggles very strong that night? laugh.gif

Was that the Civil War?
mortonjag 2008-07-08 16:40:03
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 8 2008, 04:07 PM) [snapback]473609[/snapback]
To think I was eating a raspberry panacotta at this exact moment.
Shame on you.

IN the middle of your knife crime rife scheme SPARROT-you truly are a remarkable child!
mortonjag 2008-07-08 16:46:13
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 8 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]473634[/snapback]
Leave the guy alone, Collins wouldnt only have ignored half of you, he'd have came over and booted you right in the stones.

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mortonjag 2008-07-08 16:51:09
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jul 8 2008, 04:43 PM) [snapback]473647[/snapback]
Don't say you weren't warned! I have engaged the services of a gentleman who wishes to discuss this matter with you. Be at The Jimmy Watt at 10 tonight sir! ph34r.gif

The monkey 'wontz two no iph phatza fret'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-08 16:58:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 8 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]473618[/snapback]
don't even get me started on those Irish!

So-young man-back to the question-Islamophobia-or cold, hard truth? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-08 17:04:33
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 8 2008, 04:37 PM) [snapback]473641[/snapback]
He didn't have MJ to deal with really. Speaking of, has anyone noticed that MJ has calmed down since a dirty forum was added? i knew that was all he needed.

MORTONJAG IS ALWAYS CALM AND SUBDUED
mortonjag 2008-07-08 17:13:24
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 8 2008, 04:35 PM) [snapback]473638[/snapback]
She looks as if she is no stranger to a c*** ! Wonder how many times she has been banged ?
MARGARET CURRAN IS A C*NT, MARGARET CURRAN IS A C*NT, MARGARET CURRAN IS A C*NT!

Is there a tune to that we ditty MJ ?

Skip, skip, skip to my Lou,
Skip, skip, skip to my Lou,
Skip, skip, skip to my Lou,
Skip to my Lou, my darlin'.


Margaret Curran is a c*nt
is a c*nt, is a c*nt
Margaret Curran is a c*nt
Gordy Pordy's darling
mortonjag 2008-07-08 17:27:07
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 8 2008, 05:08 PM) [snapback]473672[/snapback]
biggrin.gif the day you learned to use different colors was the day i knew that i realised this isn't a harsh, cruel world. It's a sunny, wonderful extravegant place where all my dreams will come true.


Bring me sunshine in your smile
Bring me laughter all the while
In this world where we live
There should be more happiness
So much joy you can give
To each brand new bright tomorrow

Make me happy through the years
Never bring me any tears
Let your arms be as warm as the sun from up above
Bring me fun, bring me sunshine, bring me love

Bring me sunshine in your smile
Bring me laughter all the while
In this world where we live
There should be more happiness
So much joy you can give
To each brand new bright tomorrow

Make me happy through the years
Never bring me any tears
Let your arms be as warm as the sun from up above
Bring me fun, bring me sunshine, bring me love

Bring me sunshine in your smile
Bring me laughter all the while
Let your arms be as warm as the sun from up above
Bring me fun, bring me sunshine, bring me love



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mortonjag 2008-07-08 17:29:34
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 8 2008, 05:20 PM) [snapback]473683[/snapback]
I like it !

btw would you hump her ?

I'd much rather salute Mr Rae and call him Sir.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 17:32:23
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 8 2008, 05:25 PM) [snapback]473685[/snapback]
Christianity has been responsible for more wars and atrocities throughout history than all other religions combined. The journalist says that islam is different from other religions because its followers will kill in the name of it. Arguably the war in the middle east is being waged by "christian fundamentalists" however, which would make this a moot point. Even if this is not the case, and it is merely economic, is killing for money and power any better or worse then killing for religion?

Killing is rather naughty whatever the reason or excuse.

Right now I could murder a 'Chinky'
mortonjag 2008-07-08 17:38:18
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 8 2008, 05:09 PM) [snapback]473674[/snapback]
Last time I went there at that time a guy in a pair of gold knickers was waiting for midTONs who shat himself and was a no show despite having new runners for the occasion provided by GibbyTON on the night.

So I'll take a rain check. Actually can you imagine what Fran And Anna would have smelt like wet - jesus I hope they never went out in the rain or stood to close to naked flames with that gear on.

TonInDublin

Apparently in the summer-if it was REALLY hot, they used to take off their shoes and paddle in the Monklands Canal in their fishnet tights. The flies used to swarm round them like locals.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 17:45:02
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jul 8 2008, 04:56 PM) [snapback]473663[/snapback]
Aye, sunset from Lyle Hill on a clear day is bloody brilliant, one of the best views in Scotland. biggrin.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-08 17:47:53
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 8 2008, 05:19 PM) [snapback]473682[/snapback]
shutup.gif

shutup.gif + shutup.gif = shutup.gif shutup.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-08 18:05:10
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 8 2008, 05:52 PM) [snapback]473703[/snapback]
Expressed as: 2 shutup.gif

shutup.gif x shutup.gif + shutup.gifshutup.gif/ shutup.gif shutup.gif= shutup.gif shutup.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-08 18:07:54
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 8 2008, 06:04 PM) [snapback]473712[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Jul 8 2008, 06:01 PM) [snapback]473711[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I can also reveal Princesston to marry Jon Newby that swung the signing.
no thats paartalu wub.gif

Jason's doon the basin? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-08 18:12:22
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 8 2008, 05:38 PM) [snapback]473698[/snapback]
Aye yer right enough. And tae feck with hugging a hoodie as well.

Three craws sat upon a wa',
Sat upon a wa', sat upon a wa',
Three craws sat upon a wa',
On a cauld and frosty mornin'.

The first craw was greetin' for his maw,
Greetin' for his maw, greetin' for his maw,
The first craw was greetin' for his maw,
On a cauld and frosty mornin'.

The second craw fell and broke his jaw,
Fell and broke his jaw, fell and broke his jaw,
The second craw fell and broke his jaw,
On a cauld and frosty mornin'.

The third craw, couldnae caw at a',
Couldnae caw at a', couldnae caw at a',
The third craw, couldnae caw at a',
On a cauld and frosty mornin'.

An that's a', absolutely a',
Absolutely a', absolutely a',
An that's a', absolutely a',
On a cauld and frosty mornin
'

You're not much of a Franciscan Mr Edwards.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 18:16:02
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 8 2008, 05:50 PM) [snapback]473701[/snapback]
I hate terms like black, mixed race etc. I do remember when race training started for teachers under the aegis of gone, but not lamented, Strathclyde regional cooncil.
All people who were not "white", were deemed to be black, did not go down with the weans of chinese descent.

Were they Confuced?

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 8 2008, 05:52 PM) [snapback]473704[/snapback]
I'm a tolerant person. I've even got a Tory friend.

He'll not be a brown pouffe then?
mortonjag 2008-07-08 18:26:10
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 8 2008, 06:04 PM) [snapback]473713[/snapback]
Either that or everyone should sign up for Buddhism.

I'm sometimes a wee bit suspicious of Buddhists-if everything I'm led to believe is correct, they are too good to be true. Are there many Buddhists in China?


Anyway--cold hard truth for me--nothing to do with daft psychological theories from immature weans about 'hatred making up for inadequacies'. They WILL read their big books! ph34r.gif

Life really is SO simplistic for some, and SO fanciful for others.

I do, however, suspect that a healthy distaste for Fundamental Islam pervades normal Muslim society in Britain.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 19:38:57
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 8 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]473749[/snapback]
i know all is allowed in this forum but calling me a racist is out of order. are you saying that Black, Asian, Indian people can't be any religion apart from Muslim?. What about black people who are Christians? how does that fit into your little theory.

where did i say i participate in politics? i said i had an interest in them. You're putting words in my mouth and the thing that scares me most is judging by your posts on this thread they seem to be coming out of your arse.

i said i feared the unknown, but i can quite clearly see that you're an idiot sitting at a keyboard, c*** in hand, wanking furiously at images in your head of Maggie Thatcher giving you rimjob, So i think i'll sleep safely tonight.

I don't know if he intended to call you a racist or not-probably not-but it's still pretty hurtful when that weapon is used to deflect attention from a valid argument.

The majority of Muslims is non white, in the same way as the majority of Christians is 'non black', but only an uneducated fool would suggest that Islamophobia-if such a phenomenon exists-is primarily racist. Fundamental Islam has set out its stall-it is not embraced by the majority of British Muslims because it preaches enforcement of Islam by extreme measures including indiscriminate terrorism.

I believe that a lesser evil is the ongoing attempt by certain elements in British society to impose Muslim values on the status quo. Most of those folk I see as misguided, rather than evil. I still believe, however, that there comes a point where they should politely be told 'NO' in the same way as a minority 'Christian' sect would be. We don't, for example, see Jehovah's Witnesses campaigning outside blood transfusion units, despite the fact that those are anathema to them, and if they tried, they'd surely be forced to leave.

It's in this latter area that I believe PC nonsense is catalysing, albeit unwittingly, the growth of Fundamental Islam.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 19:55:31
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Jul 8 2008, 07:39 PM) [snapback]473773[/snapback]
I've not said a thing about cloured people not being Christian, because if I did I would be a complete idiot considering the Archbishop of York is black. Read the second last paragraph of this post and you will see the point I am making

I'm not saying that's what black people were doing, but again your lack of inteligence astounds me. What I am saying is that years ago it was the black people moving into Britain who were being feared and people felt uneasy about them, now it's the muslims.

The bit in bold confuses the hell out of me. As I have already said, terrorists can be white and christian, which is were your racism comes shining through. Even more so, how do you know the dark skinned man with the beard is muslim in the first place? You've made a total sweeping generalisation of this man, based on what? That's right, the colour of his skin. Couldn't he be athiest like you and I? You do get Asian athiests you know, but oh no, he must be muslim. And you said I thought that coloured people had to be one religion dry.gif

And Pete Doherty is not my role model, I like his music. Did I ever say he was my role model? unsure.gif


And that's where you've got the wrong end of the stick. In Scotland we've NEVER had an influx of 'black' people, but we're into our THIRD generation of Muslims. It's only relatively recently that worldwide Terrorist activity has been mirrored, as I already mentioned, by folk who are not 'evil' but who are being ENCOURAGED to test the limits to which they can impose Islam by our wishy washy PC society-described in the newspaper article as 'too timid to face the truth'.

Most white Glasgow folk do NOT have an inbuilt fear or suspicion of brown faces-they ARE now part of the culture. A significant number of 'whites' is in fact Muslim. That does not mean, for example, that the former endorse police sniffer dogs having to wear plastic bootees.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 06:11:06
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 8 2008, 08:26 PM) [snapback]473831[/snapback]
I have very little short term memory. Not like one of these people that say "my memory's crap". Medically diagnosed problem with short term memory and epilepsy, caused by head injury. Watch Memento (had to check IMDb to get the name, as couldn't remember it...ironic given the plot of the film!)

Scott Gillan on the other hand is a simpleton.

PS Why would I call Bob, Mr LargsTon? huh.gif



QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 8 2008, 10:24 PM) [snapback]473921[/snapback]
I miss Scott Gillan. sad.gif
Where'd he go?

Probably busy thinking up a response for Bob on the Derek Collins thread, I guess.


I'll help...

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mortonjag 2008-07-09 06:15:02
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 8 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]473750[/snapback]
This isn't aimed at Collins. I never had anything against him, nor did most fans I know.

It's aimed at the Gillans and Donga. I want to know if their feelings towards Derek have changed. I quite enjoy the fact Scott's obviously avoiding the issue. Squirm, bitch, squirm. laugh.gif



QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 8 2008, 11:14 PM) [snapback]473961[/snapback]
is it only because of this that you hate him, or are there other reasons?

also, have you never ignored someone you cant be arsed talking to? y'know, just pretend you didnt see them coz you think they are a dick etc? i'm sure we will all admit to having done something like this at one time or another. maybe he just thinks you and your dad are dicks, and thats why he ignored ye's

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mortonjag 2008-07-09 06:21:01 We're skint, yet it seems DI's doing a good job of making us hard to beat which is exactly the opposite of what JM did.

There are still huge gaps-our squad is anything but comprehensive, and I'd suggest 'bare bones' is a more accurate term.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 06:39:07
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 8 2008, 05:38 PM) [snapback]473696[/snapback]
No, general Jessiness would have been General Jessiness then.

OK-was General Jessiness in the Civil War?

QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 8 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]473924[/snapback]
So 16 is the legal age to have sex, but 18 is the legal age to talk about it? unsure.gif

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Bang on the money son-before I start TiD and Boozie have to stick to their rules-so I'm not getting at them here BUT

I cannot believe the abuse you've just taken from a shower of sanctimonious wee fan.nies who think they are big, mature, and knowledgeable just because they're 1,3,5, 7 or even 12 years older than you.

To me you're all just bloody weans anyway, and I'm sick to the back teeth of wee erses right up their ain.

I can assure you, young man, that you do an extremely good job of keeping those self satisfied wee wannabes on their tootsie wootsies!

Just one final point.


Morrissey is a


POUFFE


mortonjag 2008-07-09 06:54:08 Spurtle-the wee soul was reading out somebody else's speech to a select audience of BMA representatives-I believe they were highly impressed by her delivery. I always said Bawheid's bairns talk a good game.

Those crusty conservative c*nts have a vested interest in the status quo-if ever you had a Profession which is 'tartan tory' to the core, it's the Scottish Quackery.

I've had little time for the buffons at the B.M.A. since they bottled out of industrial action in the early nineties when their fellow Tory- the beery and baw faced Kenneth Clarke unilaterally imposed a 'contract' on G.P.s mad.gif

Here's what hirsute Hetty said-- which had them coming in gallons and their 'Markies' Y fronts.


"In Scotland, we have set out our stall with absolute clarity. NHS Scotland is, and always will be, a service that is owned by the people of this country. We will continue to ensure that our policies reflect the ethos and the principles upon which the NHS was founded back in 1948."

The health secretary said that patients and the public were co-owners of the service, not consumers in a competitive market-place. "I believe very strongly that our model, the Scottish model, of delivering healthcare is the best way of meeting our healthcare needs," she said.



Here's what she didn't say, and what she NEVER says.


THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE TO DIP DEEP INTO THEIR OWN POCKETS IF WE ARE EVER TO ACHIEVE THIS.



I'm singularly unimpressed by the little girl's attempt to con my fellow professionals.

I'm thoroughly disgusted that they, in turn, let their hearts rule their heads.

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mortonjag 2008-07-09 07:15:22
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jul 8 2008, 07:58 PM) [snapback]473796[/snapback]
When there have been no clouds during the day, there is nothing to obscure the sun, so the sunset can be seen clearly. mellow.gif

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I knew what you meant-it was just the way you said it-I'm getting worse than Mr Bam! blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-09 07:19:36
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 8 2008, 08:05 PM) [snapback]473806[/snapback]
Or have them sectioned because anyone sane would have tired of that b*****d child already.

SPARROT splurteth! laugh.gif

QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 8 2008, 08:42 PM) [snapback]473838[/snapback]
why didn't all the corporal punishment guys just birch him and maybe they would have got the bloodlust out of their system and all those against could reconsider our reservations as this poster was a serious 4rsehole .




Now, now, you're sounding like a bloody politician. The corporal punishment boys only want to birch the little pink naughty botties!
mortonjag 2008-07-09 07:22:40
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jul 8 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]473878[/snapback]
Is it for the male Turkish masseuse job thats was advertised on the phone box wall



See thae trans sexual turkeys!
mortonjag 2008-07-09 07:27:33
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 8 2008, 09:53 PM) [snapback]473897[/snapback]
Schoolboy error jag, Confucius is the Latinised version of the name, in Mandarin it's Kun Fu Tse.

Confucius-he say-homosexual chemist ... Pouffe in Boots.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 07:39:00
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 8 2008, 10:52 PM) [snapback]473937[/snapback]
I try to avoid sunburn as I dislike cancer.

The most common cause of cancer in the under 30's is typing.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 07:44:43 Only one more till you reach the years of maturity!


Many happy returns.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 07:48:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 8 2008, 11:03 PM) [snapback]473948[/snapback]
Was St Francis a veggie? Friar Tuck wasn't as I recall. Me? I'm still on the good karma kormas.

Did yon Boy George Pouffe not write a wee song about Karma Kormeleon?

QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 9 2008, 06:53 AM) [snapback]474045[/snapback]
Aye and then fall off them dead! laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-09 08:03:10
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 8 2008, 11:45 PM) [snapback]473985[/snapback]
But...part of the stereotype IS the colour of their skin...don't even try and deny that, if you do you will be appearing very silly.

To you perhaps, but then you're just a wee Inverclyde kid whose knowledge of the big smoke is confined to walking from the Central Station to the Tech and back.



I can assure you without any shadow of doubt that most Glaswegians don't even look twice at other Scottish people with brown or black faces-they are all around-they are part of our culture-they are doctors, bus drivers, lawyers, bank clerks, and bin men.

Now here's a wee piece of gen for you, young man-folk who wear funny claes and hide their faces ARE part of a stereotype-they WANT to be seen to be different-'SUPERIOR' even.

So it's 'when in Rome do as the Romans do'-unless you're a fundamental Muslim!!!
mortonjag 2008-07-09 08:09:11
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jul 8 2008, 10:45 PM) [snapback]473929[/snapback]
**DISCLAIMER**

If easily offended, please don't read what is under the spoiler tags. I can understand people getting upset with this one.
**DISCLAIMER**


What's small, pink, and smells of Holly?

[spoiler]Ian Huntley's c***[/spoiler]

Huntly's penis was purportedly quite large.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 08:23:52 I lost my virginity in the corner of a field between Kilmacolm and Port Glasgow-I reckon I was probably thirteen-maybe fourteen at the time-but in the late 1950's we were not nearly as precocious as the current kids.

Anyway, as in most of those situations, it was over very quickly. I came off her with a mixture of joy, amazement and not a little apprehension-it was, after all-out in the open.

Now here's the bit I can laugh at now, but I assure you it was anything but amusing at the time. Her bloody mother had been watching the whole thing over the hedge. She stared me straight in the eyes, and what she said has been indelibly printed in my brain ever since:
























































BAAAA
mortonjag 2008-07-09 09:07:59
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 9 2008, 08:56 AM) [snapback]474065[/snapback]
I would be more impressed if patients gave her two standing ovations rather than doctors.
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Digitally!
mortonjag 2008-07-09 09:12:47
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 9 2008, 09:02 AM) [snapback]474070[/snapback]
That would be a homosexual pharmacist surely.
Dear lord, Mentaljug MB, ChB don't know the difference between a chemist who understands the workings of creation and a Pharmacist who dispenses snake oil. laugh.gif

They're all effin chemists to me Mr Bam.

Confucius he say-man with hand in pocket feel cawky all day.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 09:17:39
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 9 2008, 08:16 AM) [snapback]474056[/snapback]
i'm not denying that, but it is not the color of their skin i dislike/fear about them. I wouldn't not get to know someone because of the color of their skin, and i would be more than comfortable having muslim friends with different colored skin from me. If i was on a train and the only seat left was next to someone with darker skin and a beard i'd have no problem sitting beside them. I don't see me as a racist, i see me as someone with a fear of their religion, and what could happen to me and people i love because of it.

If that makes me a racist then so be it, but i know for a fact there are millions of other people in the world who feel exactly like me.

I WOULD if she was a woman.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 10:04:43
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 9 2008, 09:54 AM) [snapback]474100[/snapback]
The man that you worship as Son of God, as well as others before and after him, have advocated the alternative. Isn't it a pity that we choose to ignore them. And wars aren't all 'noble' struggles against tyranny. On the contrary, most of them are about power, control of resources and greed. The last two in the Arabian Gulf certainly were.

I'll always defend the right of the bullied to knock f*ck out of the bully!
mortonjag 2008-07-09 10:09:57
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 9 2008, 09:16 AM) [snapback]474079[/snapback]
Watch it sawbones that's fighting talk. wink.gif

I'll 'sawbones' you-I am a Physician, and a fine one to boot! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-09 10:25:31
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 9 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]474120[/snapback]
I don't really disagree with your analysis either, just your use of the term 'civilised'. I would argue that a society that prepares for or wages war, doesn't fully deserve that description.

'Civilised' suits me Mr Edwards. The term you're looking for is 'ideal', and it just doesn't work that way.

Man was 'born in sin and shapen in iniquity'.

Jesus told us how to make the best of it with his new commandments that we 'love one another' and forgive 'seventy times seven'.

It doesn't work that way either, I'm afraid.

'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth', is fine by me, and birching is the solution to all sin.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 11:52:24
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 9 2008, 11:09 AM) [snapback]474150[/snapback]
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Max Mosley might agree with you.

I'd birch ALL Nazis.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 11:57:31
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jul 9 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]474138[/snapback]
What is the world coming to? Now the Saudis have gone soft as s***e!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7496375.stm

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Ping pong-I'd cut off their bloody hands.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 12:15:28
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 9 2008, 10:24 AM) [snapback]474127[/snapback]
I see. Best avoided then. laugh.gif

It might be the making of you Mr Edwards! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-09 12:16:51
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 9 2008, 11:23 AM) [snapback]474154[/snapback]
Minister for Woman and Equality is that a contradiction in terms .

Birch the bitch!
mortonjag 2008-07-09 12:20:32
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 9 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]474135[/snapback]
I think you lot are brilliant too. I love some of the unionist excuses, you give me much merriment.

I also love the negative spin you conjure up on quite positive nationalist stories.
I was going to say I'll be sad when the union breaks up because all this will come to an end. But of course I won't be sad, although I'll look back with much affection at all the quite incredible unionist blinkered view points and laugh ma wee cotton socks aff . laugh.gif

'Made in Great Britain'!

QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 9 2008, 12:06 PM) [snapback]474181[/snapback]
Nope that's Mentaljug.

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mortonjag 2008-07-09 12:23:43 If there's a willy there's a way.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 12:30:27
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 9 2008, 10:40 AM) [snapback]474139[/snapback]
its one of lifes great mysteries how someone who is so outspoken on here can be so shy in real life! laugh.gif

Just as well knob sookin' requires no laryngeal input! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-09 12:35:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 9 2008, 10:20 AM) [snapback]474122[/snapback]
you have trouble sitting next to any woman. sad.gif

True! laugh.gif

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 9 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]474161[/snapback]
Ah there is nothing better than blind ignorance. How do you know I do not go to other parts of Glasgow on a regular basis?

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Aye you go to pipe band venues and the occasional bash at the Carling! laugh.gif

Have you ever seen a Hijabee playing the pipes?
mortonjag 2008-07-09 12:44:48
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jul 9 2008, 12:39 PM) [snapback]474195[/snapback]
You might have something there! I have noticed I have lusted after the occcasional 50+ model already and I seem to have given up sitting outside schools at lunchtime...

There is a subtle difference between lovemaking and getting your hole.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 12:58:19
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 9 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]474201[/snapback]
Nicola Sturgeon is just the tartan version of Wendy Alexander.

Wendy uses disposable razors.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 13:01:03
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jul 9 2008, 12:54 PM) [snapback]474202[/snapback]
There is...? huh.gif

You are still young! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-09 13:06:09
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 9 2008, 12:59 PM) [snapback]474210[/snapback]
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Aye, Sturgeon could probably win a Desperate Dan lookalike competition at that.

I see it's her birthday quite soon-I can't think of a present that's particularly suitable-I've googled exploding tartan dildo with no success. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-09 13:13:57
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 9 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]474197[/snapback]
My pipe band practices in Clydebank huh.gif

In the past week, outwith piping, I have been in areas of Glasgow on Thursday, Monday and yesterday. And will be Tomorrow and Friday...the Friday one involving a sub-crawl meaning I will see 15 different areas of Glasgow in a day wink.gif



Clydebank's a bit of Glasgow!

I'm surprised then, given your massive exposure to our big smoke culture, that you still see non white faces as 'part of a stereotype'!

...and you didn't answer the question-how do you blaw the pipes through a burqua?
mortonjag 2008-07-09 13:16:32
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 9 2008, 01:00 PM) [snapback]474211[/snapback]
you should go, its well fun. there is a good chance you won't even be picked anyway, and even if you're not picked you still get to see the f***er and hear what they've done.

Sounds quite kinky-is it in stereo?
mortonjag 2008-07-09 13:20:38
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 8 2008, 11:27 PM) [snapback]473970[/snapback]
4 User(s) are reading this topic (2 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
2 Members: Deego, Scott_Gillan

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Could he be avoiding the question?
mortonjag 2008-07-09 13:38:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 9 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]474221[/snapback]
Pipe down! you're ruining the best thread on this forum, BTT!

I never ruin threads and it's MINE anyway. ph34r.gif

QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jul 9 2008, 01:18 PM) [snapback]474222[/snapback]
this thread is really good, some really interesting stuff from you guys, heres something I was thinking regarding the muslim religion, does the shira law not derive from that very religion ? and if so then the 2 things go hand in hand, this is a set of laws that should make us ALL very afraid, laws in which the VICTIM of a crime becomes the perpatrotor themselves... so as said if the shira law and muslim relegion are so closely connected (or are in fact for all intense and purposes the same thing)..then we should be putting all efforts in to stopping this religion from spreading.



There have been a few woolly comments recently about elements of Sharia law being incorporated into the current system. No harm in that if it's a gradual evolution and conforms with accepted Human Rights.

I do find this interesting!

Gay rights

Main article: Homosexuality and Islam

Homosexual activity is illicit under the sharia, however the prescribed penalties differ from one school of jurisprudence to another. For example these countries may allow the death penalty for sodomy though not for other homosexual activities: Iran, UAE, Sudan, Nigeria, Mauritania, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Somalia. Sharia does not recognize a human right of sexual self-determination. Human rights organizations focus on decriminalization, anti-discrimination laws, and incitement to hatred laws. Organizations are particularly concerned about the persecution of gays and lesbians in Iran and have helped some gay and lesbian Iranians gain asylum in Western countries.



Maybe some of our less tolerant posters, who might be 'wondering what the country's coming to' would be more content elsewhere! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-09 13:43:55
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 9 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]474238[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-07-09 13:47:20 I'm very fond of frogs-particularly tree frogs which have a lovely yellowish green hue.

I've met a few horny toads in my time too.

The latter are best avoided.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 13:52:10
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 9 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]474239[/snapback]
No, no, no, no, NO! Unacceptable.

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It's OK Boozie-they won't chop off yer willy for for havin' a wee snifter on the side.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 14:15:25 I don't think of myself as old-in fact, still in my early sixties, I'm even a wee bit resistant to the term 'elderly'

I'm still quite alert, able to walk and talk, continent of urine and faeces, and, believe it or not enjoy a good shag on a regular basis.

I suspect that last comment may surprise-indeed shock some of our younger posters. If any of you relates to that, you are by definition, guilty of ageism!

Stereotyping is universal-there's nothing inherently wrong with it, and often it serves a useful purpose (young man + shell suit + baseball cap + Bucky bottle = AVOID), but stereotyping is also a classical symptom of narrow mindedness, and an inability to think laterally.

'Ageism', originally referred to stereotyping of the elderly, but has now a broader meaning and includes all discrimination on account of age.

I regularly 'take the piss' out of our younger posters, as they do of me, but I'm often amazed by the perception and maturity of some of them, and in reality, I've always enjoyed being in the company of younger people.

In fact the majority of the over sixties are boring old fuds.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 14:34:22
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jul 9 2008, 02:08 PM) [snapback]474258[/snapback]
I know, i've read it a few times



The Bible, like the Koran and the Kama Sutra, is a very useful instruction manual, provided it's not read too literally.

Folk who read scripture and accept word for word outdated concepts are guilty of fundamentalism. That's the problem which underlies this thread.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 14:45:41
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 9 2008, 01:37 PM) [snapback]474233[/snapback]
Weatherson ought to fight his way into the team at some point, and we know that he's more than capable of going on hot spells of goals that would be most useful.
Will there be any room in the squad for the 3-4-3 that worked so well against dunfermline or Partick?
For me, Russell is best suited to the right wing type position he had then, although he's a decetn striker if not the best finisher.
Thankfully we have far better options than we ahd last year - we can afford to drop players due to poor form. smile.gif



The word is 'deceiving', SPARROT!
mortonjag 2008-07-09 14:48:43
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 9 2008, 02:17 PM) [snapback]474265[/snapback]
can't believe it has been 50 minutes since someone made a posting on this thread

How time flies!
mortonjag 2008-07-09 14:56:32
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 9 2008, 01:49 PM) [snapback]474245[/snapback]
I was gonna use this thread to have a cheap dig at CHC but then I remembered that he's currently in my good books. happy.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-09 15:03:21
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 9 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]474254[/snapback]
C'mon, you know the both of you would "do" her. Stop trying to convince that you have any kind of standards laugh.gif

Both Sturgeon and Salmond make a great team.


Exceptional politicians with great intelligence and integrity avoid Holyrood like the plague.

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mortonjag 2008-07-09 15:12:25
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 9 2008, 02:47 PM) [snapback]474279[/snapback]
Perhaps in your unwise opinion.

I have NO unwise opinions SPARROT

LEAFY is indeed a decent striker-potentially far more prolific than Super Khali.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 15:15:56 Greacen's Genitals become Nicholl's pickles.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 15:24:37
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 9 2008, 03:16 PM) [snapback]474289[/snapback]
only difference is " Leafy " can have all the potential he wants, while he's fannying about with potential Wake will be scoring the goals.

Darling-I've been holding back for ages and-you know me- eventually I've just got to let it out:


Where is the evidence that Super Khali is going to be banging in goals?

He came as a JM signing and was so dreadful for many weeks that he was literally being pilloried on this pubic massage board. Some even claimed he was the worst player they'd ever seen at Cappielow.

Then ----whoooooooooooooooosh-kerrrrang-kalamazoooooooooo........ bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif ........

he plays two good games and immediately becomes cult figure and striker par excellence!

I WAS impressed, and I'm praying it wasn't just a big magic flash in the pan. huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-09 15:37:40
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 9 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]474294[/snapback]
Aye don't we know it! Peado.

I don't mind the company of old people, infact i smile whenever one randomly starts talking to me or people around me, makes me wish we still lived ina time where you could talk away to any stranger at the bus stop or wherever like you obviously could in their day. I was in work one day and an old man came in and started talking to me about the war for a good 20 minutes and although i never got any work done i was absolutely fascinated, plus he called me a gentleman when he left, he had good taste.

Stereotypes are the same as cliches for me, they are there because they are true, that is why they became stereotypes and cliches in the first place, although im not saying every stereotype is true.

You mean like saying ' the Mods are POUFFES' when in fact only one is?
mortonjag 2008-07-09 15:50:17
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jul 9 2008, 03:35 PM) [snapback]474297[/snapback]
ive read bits of the Koran, like ive read bits of the bible.... i also have friends (not just sajeed who works in the local shop..) who are muslim, i have to say i feel safer sitting amongst a group of strangers who are young muslims than i do amongst a group strangers of young white men. its definately a lot more peaceful with less testosterone flying about with points to prove. i have rarely seen the group of muslims kicking off, fighting, being disrespectful for no reason.. the latter.. just look around on a friday or saturday night! i find the media stereotype of the muslim shocking and so far from the truth.

as an athiest looking at religion, i see it as one of the most surreal things that happens in the world.. people worshiping, giving money for, living their life around these mysterious beings who they have never seen or heard.. nuts nuts nuts. tho sometimes i do feel as though im missing out on something. what ill never know!

theres many similarities between the two religions, one of the differences is that the bible makes jesus out to be the pathway to god.. whilst in islam, jesus is the healer and didnt say at any time to go through him to get to god, that was peter and paul? thus islam sees christians as worshiping the wrong person. . whilst mohammed is the.. awe f*** it... its all religious mumbo jumbo to me.

religion.. another cause of bloodshed for what? so we have an excuse for our pityful short time as a life form on earth? pah.

end of the day, everyone is entitled to their beliefs, its when these beliefs lead to a reaction.. ie.. the common one up here, looking at someone as if they are dirt, making them feel unwelcome because of the way they dress or colour. thats when a line is crossed that is so wrong.
worse happens, but this is a common occurance that i have witnessed when walking around with friends and i can see why the muslim community feel under threat. People perhaps dont even realise they are doing it and yet it subconsiously happens all the time.

edit to add - im sure that a large part of the problem (apart from religion! full stop) with the koran is that is was written in Arabic, thus you are really reading someones translation of the koran rather than the actual writings itself. this leaves it open to many different interpretations.

Real or imagined?
mortonjag 2008-07-09 15:53:54
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 9 2008, 03:51 PM) [snapback]474310[/snapback]
what i meant was they are true in some sense, or at some point otherwise they wouldn't be a stereotype/cliche to begin with.

Although someone who's just been caught fingering their dogs arse could probably explain themselves better than i can.

Aye those vets are all the same.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 16:01:01
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jul 9 2008, 03:50 PM) [snapback]474309[/snapback]
on LSD!

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Like yourself I have many Muslim acquaintances. A couple are personal friends. I've never known any of them to admit to 'fear'. They have all chosen to live here because they enjoy being part of the community, and the advantages they gain from being British.

I've never discussed Fundamental Islam except with the ones I feel closest to, and they regard it in a similar fashion to how I imagine most nominal Christians see the IRA or UDA.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 16:07:43 STEVIE AITKEN


He's ALWAYS protesting vociferously that he's got Mortonjag on ignore!!!


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mortonjag 2008-07-09 16:13:35
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 9 2008, 03:44 PM) [snapback]474303[/snapback]
He was getting better when coming on as sub once he was match fit, and he scored in last 3 games of season, and after watching him on monday i have no fear that he'll continue that, his effort, touch, his ability to hold and bring others into play , his movement in the box and finishing ability were all top class, including taking the ball round the keeper and tapping it in the net, while your precious leafy was missing 4 one on ones with the goalkeeper.

He will score goals for us this season, don't worry.

Praise indeed-he sounds almost as good as Spoonsy was when he came at first!
mortonjag 2008-07-09 16:18:00
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 9 2008, 04:02 PM) [snapback]474320[/snapback]
MJ post a few times, im todays top poster, that doesn't sit comfortably with me. I think only deego has ever outposted you.

I never really pay much attention to what I've written after it's done!

Mind you I have this vague recollection of some guy getting a trifle upset because he thought his son was being misrepresented. There were a lot of posts after that but very few were mine.

Pete Gallen or somebody if I recall.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 16:37:59
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 9 2008, 04:18 PM) [snapback]474337[/snapback]
you have him on ignore apparently but you're the last person on MJ's profile according to him. tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-09 16:40:51 FAIRY NUFF
mortonjag 2008-07-09 16:51:32
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 9 2008, 04:44 PM) [snapback]474354[/snapback]
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I must admit if I had the dosh it might just have to be a Morgan,

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mortonjag 2008-07-09 17:03:19
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 9 2008, 04:58 PM) [snapback]474360[/snapback]
two days since someone looked at your profile, you need to up your effort on here!

although 99% of profiles have nothing on them so i dont see why people check them laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-09 17:06:35
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jul 9 2008, 05:03 PM) [snapback]474361[/snapback]
It surprises most of us that you pay attention to what you've written while it's being done

I don't.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 17:11:01
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 9 2008, 05:07 PM) [snapback]474366[/snapback]
Unsurprisingly deego and mortonjag were the last to look at mine; deego because he's a scrote and mortonjag because he's a creepy c***.

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mortonjag 2008-07-09 17:19:13
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 9 2008, 05:10 PM) [snapback]474370[/snapback]
I remember a game against Elgin City when we were in the third when a mate I was at the match with pointed out that Collins had stamped on their young forward. The forward was quiet for much of the game thereafter.

Collins had a terrible disciplinary record considering that he was meant to lead by example, but I suppose on that occasion it did the trick.

Would any other members care to comment on Collins overall manners?

I watched Derek Collins throughout his first spell, and when he came back, and never thought of him as an undisciplined player, so, having read your comment I did a wee bit of research and came up with this:



HE IS A LIAR.Down at Gretna myself and my Dad shouted to Derek to give us a wave as he was hitting the ball about at half time in front of us.He looked straight at us from about 6 feet away and turned his back to us and walked away..Total ignorant asshole.He forgets my dad was on his testimonial commitee(Spelling??) and worked hard to make him as much money as poss.

The guy is an Idiot and I hope he comes off the bench on Saturday cause they always seem to lose a goal or two when he does
mortonjag 2008-07-09 17:29:55
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 9 2008, 05:12 PM) [snapback]474373[/snapback]
That is honestly a tremendous source of relief.

Delighted to have spared you 150 calories and a paper tissue.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 18:37:10
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jul 9 2008, 05:57 PM) [snapback]474392[/snapback]
Scott Gillan?

Was it something he thought had been said?
mortonjag 2008-07-09 18:48:36
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jul 9 2008, 06:34 PM) [snapback]474411[/snapback]
Don't worry, i won't nut you...yet. angel.gif I guess i should be pleased that you mod police are looking out for her. If the truth be told, she doesn't really want in it anyway, she said it would be a bunch of old geezers talking s*** and looking at porn.. ohmy.gif

Turned out they were talking porn and looking at sh*t, Your Majesty! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-09 18:51:08
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 9 2008, 06:38 PM) [snapback]474416[/snapback]
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Ages since you were reduced to the huffy Smileys, Spurtle-I hope wee Nickerless didn't refuse you a 'beardie' again!
mortonjag 2008-07-09 18:56:06
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 9 2008, 06:19 PM) [snapback]474400[/snapback]
Did you just out Boozehound ?

TonInDublin

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Boozie's a nice pouffe guy-not at all Mr Mod-I wasn't just confining my comments to the Jessie Boys! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-09 19:00:29 4-0 ALL from


LEAFY

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mortonjag 2008-07-09 19:09:32
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 9 2008, 06:48 PM) [snapback]474422[/snapback]
The Morgan's the one, it's about style sir, not pulling birds nor acting as a willie extension.

Jaguars are just fords with different bodies, the days of seriously stylish Jags seem to be gone.

Mind you any of these would be an improvement on my current means of transport.
Shanks' pony. sad.gif

Yes-I understand-if you only want it parked in your driveway. The latest Morgan-incidentally is ANYTHING but stylish IMO-one of the ugliest looking beasts I've ever set eyes on with an uglier arse than Ms Sturgeon.


Jags are now made by the Tata group (nowt to do with euthanasia) though they are Indian!
mortonjag 2008-07-09 19:13:43
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 9 2008, 07:05 PM) [snapback]474436[/snapback]
No chance, unless a mod deletes it. happy.gif

HMM-if history's anything to go on..................... ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-09 19:18:16
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jul 9 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]474448[/snapback]
Who the hell would want to look at s***?? ohmy.gif

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A good question your Majesty, and one I don't feel free to answer, though I may blush a little. blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-09 19:24:06
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jul 9 2008, 07:21 PM) [snapback]474462[/snapback]
No, he's the boards very own Harold Shipman.

Correct Mr McArthur-and don't you forget it!
mortonjag 2008-07-09 21:00:14
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 9 2008, 07:26 PM) [snapback]474474[/snapback]
To be fair, that's what we're all asking...I don't see why Scott's not answering... unsure.gif

Maybe he just is one of those careful chaps who thinks very long and hard before saying anything.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 21:03:12 We're beginning to look quite hard to beat.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 21:16:21
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 9 2008, 08:27 PM) [snapback]474603[/snapback]
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Wait till the JagMeister sees that one rolleyes.gif

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Fing and Munx are indestructible, unlike wannabe fossils. Fing's nail gun technique is now perfected.

Tyrants take note! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-09 21:36:05
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 9 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]474740[/snapback]
Do they fondle each other blush.gif

They don't describe buggery as fondling, though one might!

QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Jul 9 2008, 09:20 PM) [snapback]474741[/snapback]
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He f***ing bit me.

Probably a flea-not Fing-Fing is lethal.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 21:52:59
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 9 2008, 08:48 PM) [snapback]474683[/snapback]
Morton score - Russell

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QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Jul 9 2008, 09:04 PM) [snapback]474720[/snapback]
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I figured that if i keep this up, by next June maybe i'll have a post count as big as yours. Then people may love and respect me. dry.gif

Well done LEAFY



I knew you'd score.

Why did Newbs and Khali not manage even one from them Hunners of tantalising crosses from Superkev and Jimbo? ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-09 21:56:00 4-0 ALL from
LEAFY

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mortonjag 2008-07-09 22:03:10 I'm pissed off to the back teeth hearing excuse after excuse from other posters. I'm NOT blaming DI-he's getting f*ck all money from Rae and has had to prioritise as he sees fit, but tonight we played some pathetic wee hamlet crowd, and our wonder strikers Wakey and Newb got SFA.

Strikers don't score if they ain't supplied-guess the speculative long balls ended up speculative and Superkev and Jimbo flattered to deceive as usual.

If that's miles off the mark, so be it.

We STILL need effin wingers-not superfit JM utility players.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 22:12:29
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 9 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]474777[/snapback]
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its a friendly, we had 4 trailists in the team....... it was for fitness rolleyes.gif

It must have been a bloody trial for the poor souls who trekked all the way from Inverclyde.

If we'd had nine trialists-AYE MIBBE-but according to yourself Kev, and Jimbo, and Wakey and Newb were on, and we couldn't score against a village green side (well LEAFY did but he's a proper striker).

WE NEED WINGERS
mortonjag 2008-07-09 22:18:42
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jul 9 2008, 08:19 PM) [snapback]474584[/snapback]
'Beheading Hitler' could actually be the name of Bob Geldof's new child.....Beheading Hitler Geldof. There's a certain ring about it.

It might be a boy though.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 22:22:08 I'm planning to get to bed quite soon. In the short time it takes for me to nod off, I'll probably lie wondering why we canny score for peanuts, and even worse why I'll have to read 1001 excuses tomorrow about DI's wonderful effin system, that doesn't need full backs or wingers! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-10 07:13:22 Curran’s ‘slip of the tongue’ over where she lives


Margaret Curran, Labour's candidate in the Glasgow East by-election, was yesterday forced to clarify a claim she had lived in the east end "all my life" after it emerged she has lived in an affluent part of the south side of the city for the past 20 years.

The Glasgow Baillieston MSP angrily denied allegations that she had misled voters, although an aide later conceded she may have made a "slip of the tongue".

Ms Curran is not the only candidate to stay outwith the Glasgow East boundaries: at the close of entries to the Electoral Office at Glasgow City Council yesterday, it emerged that, of the mainstream candidates, only one - the SNP's John Mason - actually lives there.


Ian Robertson, the LibDem candidate, pledged yesterday to move into the area - where he born and raised - if returned as an MP, while the Conservative party's Davena Rankin stays in the west end.

Faced with questions from The Herald yesterday over whether she had made a misleading statement, Ms Curran angrily refused to retract her comments.

During her first public outing smile.gif as an official candidate in Shettleston on Tuesday, Ms Curran said: "I have worked in the east end all my life. I have lived in the east end all my life." However, she claimed that this meant she had "either" lived or worked in the east end, where she was born and raised, and worked as a welfare rights worker and community worker, and where she now serves as MSP.

Ms Curran also described her move to a more prosperous area an example of "aspiration", adding that she was bringing those values back to the east end constituency.

She said: "I think I'm quite typical of the east end of Glasgow, where a lot of people, a lot of working class people, did very well for their kids ... I had the privilege of going to university, as did my husband, and we then bought our own house. That was aspirational on the part of our families - that's very typical in the east end."

Ms Curran attributed her reason for staying away from the constituency to "force of circumstances", saying: "My kids went to school at a certain primary and I kept them there. There's no issue."

The MSP has lived in the south side of Glasgow for at least 19 years. In 2001, she bought a property in Newlands, for £350,000 with her husband, Rab Murray, a former depute social work head at Glasgow City Council who is originally from Easterhouse. Before that, the couple lived in Shawlands since 1989, having moved from Pollokshields, also on the south side.

An aide to Ms Curran conceded later that she may have made a "slip of the tongue" in claiming to have lived in the east end all her life. "Her address is a matter of public record. She made that comment in a speech given without notes and she may have made a slip of the tongue. The point is she has lived or worked in the east end for pretty much all her adult life."








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Why do I DESPISE politicians-ESPECIALLY nouveau riche 'lefties'?

This little piggy has roast beef! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-10 07:18:56
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 9 2008, 10:38 PM) [snapback]474797[/snapback]
Tow Law FC 1 Morton 1

This match was played on a pitch which was the total opposite of the billiard table lushness of Threave Rovers ground. It sloped across the pitch by a remarkable amount �“ I would guess around 20ft from one touchline to the other. Further it was full of bumps, potholes and molehills that had only had the most cursory attention from the groundsman. It made Alloa's old pitch look flat!!

Morton started with a four trialists including three un-named black players and the impressive Graham (Junior) Smith . In what seemed like a 3-4-1-2 they lined up as:

Stewart
Black Lad 1 McManus Smith
Finlayson Masterton Black lad 2 McAllister
Black lad 3
Newby Wake


The pitch was the real winner tonight and the silky passing football of Monday was impossible. Tow Law probably created the best chances and Stewart had an excellent dive and full stretch save to his right to turn the ball away. Tow Law were then turned down what appeared to be a blatant penalty when our trialist right back delivered an elbow to the chops of his opponent in the box but the ref gave it outside the box. Morton were struggling to control the ball but tried to play football whereas Tow Law hoofed the ball mostly and were just as effective if not more so than us.

Halftime was reached with scores still at 0-0. For the second half DI took off the trialist right back who did not look that secure to me and his ineffective defensive midfield partner. He also replaced Masterton and Finlayson plus Stewart so that the team was now:

Bradley
Weatherson McManus Smith
McAllister McGuffie Paartalu Russell
Black Lad 3
Wake Newby


The second half went much as the first. With about 20 minutes to go one of Tow Law’s hoofs up the park found a molehill and the bad bounce gave their boy a look at goal and he scored with a lob into the far corner from about 25 yards - Bradley had no chance. Stevenson then replaced the remaining black player (who was called Rasheed) and Brian Graham and Lee Nicholl (trialist ex Falkirk) came on for Wake and Newby. It was all Morton for the final 15 minutes and eventually a through ball from Stevenson found McGuffie in the box and he squared for Russell to tap in.

All in all, it was another useful work out in terms of letting the gaffer assess the team. The pitch though was a nightmare as were the conditions �“ freezing and rain varying from steady drizzle to full on monsoon. Of the trialists, Rasheed look very tricky with quick feet and showed many nice touches. He was the smallest of the three but definitely the most skilful. The other two black lads were average at best. Smith impressed again and may be a real find if we sign him.

Stevenson again showed good attitude when he came on and a little bit of composure on the ball in very difficult conditions. Passes went astray all night but I am not blaming the players. The game was played on quite the worst pitch I have ever seen Morton play on and, frankly, I would criticise the club for risking the players on it at this stage of the season.

Tomorrow is on a synthetic pitch so at least we are guaranteed it will be flat and capable of supporting passing football.

Edited to correct Lee Nicholl not Lee Mitchell

I hope it's not chickenpox!
mortonjag 2008-07-10 07:27:08
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Jul 9 2008, 07:25 PM) [snapback]474470[/snapback]
What have I started....

Scott, I appologise for resurrecting this thread, smile.gifI was just genuinely interested as to your opinion now Collins is back




When the reply comes, I'm sure it will have been given a great deal of consideration.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 07:37:13
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 9 2008, 11:26 PM) [snapback]474835[/snapback]
i would not read anything into tonights game, you would have found it hard to pass wind on that pitch never mind the ball

Jim, I've already read Tonsilitis' report-thanks to him for that.

I'm reading plenty into the game-it was a friendy-aye-the pitch was terrible so we couldn't play football-aye-so what should we have done.?

Tonsilitis said that pumping long balls into the box was pretty effective for them-why it didn't work for us may just have been down to bad luck, but one way of overcoming a pitch that's not 'bowling green' is to keep slinging over high crosses-and we have NOBODY who can do it. That to me is a glaring deficiency in the squad. ESPECIALLY when it looks like Newb and Wakey can connect (as can Spoonsy).

I notice that-as ever-the children are quoting from their big books about systems and formations. They totally miss the point that we have NO adaptability, and that's a big negative for the coming season.

I'm being positive--there's still time to get it sorted.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 07:56:09
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jul 10 2008, 07:25 AM) [snapback]474910[/snapback]
For future accuracy and political correctness (see what I did there!), please stop referring to nu-labour politicians as 'lefties' - even with the perverted commas it is still just wrong.

That is all

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Ms Curran is the epitome of the 'nouveau riche leftie'. I make no apology, and require no correction from an ass. A parasite who's got rich on the strength of the poor folk she CLAIMS to represent.

Barrowfield is not 'Middle Inglind' Tailbearer.

If you know the East end of Glasgow you will understand EXACTLY where I am coming from. If you don't, trot into Asda at Parkhead forge this Saturday morning, and just OBSERVE!

Most of those good people only need to know who's wearing a red rosette when they go voting.

Many are well practised at putting a cross next to a name.

Very few need time off work to go voting either.

Curran-archetypal political scum.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 08:10:43
QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Jul 9 2008, 11:20 PM) [snapback]474831[/snapback]
Maybe one day. sad.gif

The Monkey awaits your pleasure.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 08:14:51
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 10 2008, 07:24 AM) [snapback]474909[/snapback]
save it for the police mate.

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When I barged through with 'Oot ma road ya decrepit old c*nt', I thought it was somebody else heading to the fancy dress party', officer.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 08:45:35
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jul 10 2008, 08:06 AM) [snapback]474919[/snapback]
People have a really weird way of looking at things. Why would Collins leaving Morton leave anyone with a 'bitter taste in their mouth'?
I worked in the record industry for 15 years and absolutely loved every minute of it. My sales director was/is one of my closet friends. I was offered a job with £20,000 more a year. How stupid would I have been to say no? It's as simple as that. I am and Collins is an economic agent.


Surely only a blithering idiot could see it otherwise?
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Might be the advantage of experience. We are all economic agents who need to maximise our economic welfare. If he'd left for a paycut then some animosity might have been understandable. But a lot of the angst on here is quite funny - a bit like when Fat Robbie left take that and all the wee girls were devestated.

How apt!
mortonjag 2008-07-10 08:48:00
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Jul 10 2008, 08:46 AM) [snapback]474940[/snapback]
I always like Collins as a player and wished him well when he left. The guy done a hell of a lot for this club over the years, and left after we were safe from financial ruin. People saying he left us in the lurch, they have a bitter taste in the mouth etc are a bit ott in my opinion. He left for better opportunities which Morton weren't willing to offer him, u can't blame the guy for that.
Plus, the obscene abuse he used to get on a Saturday from some quarters was nothing short of ridiculous. It used to make my blood boil.

Anyway, wheres this reply Mr Gillan? bag.gif laugh.gif

Perhaps he's 'out of the country'.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 08:52:41
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 10 2008, 08:44 AM) [snapback]474937[/snapback]
You give Nicola a wee standing ovation every morning in the shower Colkitto, ya mycky nationalist pup!
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That's a complete myth-it's common knowledge that Claymore C*ck-like all true Scotsmen has a quick wash in the burn every morning before milking the coo .
mortonjag 2008-07-10 09:01:47 Right folks-Mortonjag is going to brown tongue!


If the Mods have to decide anything fairly they have to have guidelines. In the case of age I think they had to extend those to a hard and fast rule.

I would have no problem with young Deego being 'in'-in fact we already have several posters who are clearly years behind him in maturity, but sometimes 'NO' just has to mean 'NO'.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 09:26:03 I've been in court more times than I care to remember, and also in prison on many occasions.

I've thought long and hard about the jobby eating. I'm unaware of any legislation to stop folk posting or viewing videos of an enjoyable Sunday Lunch.

One man's meat is another's poisson.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 10:13:38
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 10 2008, 09:39 AM) [snapback]474958[/snapback]
i think i have figured out a solution for this.

lets organise a celebrity boxing match in the town hall between Scott and Deeks. We could easily shift a couple of thousand tickets at 20 sheets a pop, and the money could go to the trust or another worthy cause.

Its about time we got this sorted out once and for all



That sounds quite a good idea.

I seem to remember something about Mr Gillan senior having been a boxer or something like that, so Scotty could do well, and I believe he should be given this chance to stand up for himself. As a family the Gillans have apparently been very involved in raising cash for 'Ton' causes in the past-this must surely be the ultimate challenge.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 10:23:57
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 10 2008, 09:41 AM) [snapback]474959[/snapback]
Back to the debate, Newlands fergawd's sake, feckin' newlands. Suitable for Parvenus like the Jag and DE. laugh.gif

The wumman's not all that aspirational or she'd be living in the Mearns. rolleyes.gif

SHE IS A LIAR.Down at Newlands Safeway myself and my lad shouted to her to give us a wave as she was buying a ball about half five in front of us.She looked straight at us from about 6 feet away and turned her back to us and walked away..Total ignorant asshole
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That's a complete myth-it's common knowledge that Claymore C*ck-like all true Scotsmen has a quick wash in the burn every morning before milking the coo .
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.............as he hums, 'My love is like a red red rose' and spurtles his porridge all round the pot.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 11:55:08
QUOTE(Chris Davidson @ Jul 9 2008, 11:15 PM) [snapback]474822[/snapback]
...detest her beyond belief, just saw her briefly on tv there (some sorta lottery programme?) so called 'singing', utterly bereft of any talent whatsoever in a national spotlight, yet again. That horrible wee warbling voice which brings back horrific memories of all of the WORST EVER Scottish bands / artists EVER. Her advocates think she is being as soulful as Al Green / Aretha, but, despite her new haircut / makeover, all me and everyone we know to do is cry in despair at the poverty of the whole charade / debacle.....

Let's name some of 'em, the major sinners, the people who have trully embarrased us as Scots: S.P.s own group, Texas. Hue & Cry. Deacon Blue. Del Amitri.

Doesn't get much worse than that, but remind us all if I've missed some others!!!



Is this a bit like saying 'I f*ckin hate the SPL cos I'm a Forfar supporter'?
mortonjag 2008-07-10 12:00:40 Police are hunting a tall weedy looking young man in his early twenties! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-10 12:02:39 Police are hunting a tall weedy looking young man in his early twenties! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-10 12:08:35
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jul 10 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]474986[/snapback]
Yeah whatever , MJ wrong??? . That;l be a first laugh.gif

Neways back to the post

Im sorry Ive kept you all waiting for a reply Ive been busy with work . I didnt relise my opinion on this subject ment so much to you all .

I have met Derek Collins many many times over the years and also my dad as mentioned served on his testimonial commitee . Derek did indeed leave Morton for a reason and I held no malice towards him fot that . In fact I was shouting on him that day to show support amongst the morton fans booing him . He ignored us and in hinesight maybe he was getting grief and just kept his head down and got on witht the job .

I was a bit pissed off with that response and posted on the board . I think he has been a good servent to the club and I think it is good to have a "MORTON MAN" in the management team as it helps to explain to the new breed of players what playing for the jersey means .

I think rather than certain people harrassing me through this post over my post 18 MONTHS AGO they should maybe have a good look around at Cappielow and have a go at the people who abuse and harass MORTON players during games rather than someone who was upset and made a silly post on an internet message board. Something I have only done once and the fact it was towards JM is quite Ironic im sure a few of you will agree.

Id be happy to take part in a charity boxing match against anyone if it raised mone for the ton laugh.gif Any takers ?

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Are monkeys allowed?
mortonjag 2008-07-10 12:22:17
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 10 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]475047[/snapback]
how do you know what i look like? ohmy.gif

I sometimes slip the bag off my head when you're too busy to notice.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 12:29:23
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 10 2008, 10:35 AM) [snapback]474989[/snapback]
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I wasn't specifically thinking of you, young man! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-10 12:34:40
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 10 2008, 12:00 PM) [snapback]475042[/snapback]
Boozehound

Donga

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Guys' names for 'c*nt' can be very funny, but I've had many a laugh having to examine things described as 'my flower', 'my rose' etc. mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-10 12:38:22
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 10 2008, 12:24 PM) [snapback]475061[/snapback]
laugh.gif but really, you described me exactly. thats quite freaky old man.

wub.gif

Would you believe I have photos of you? blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-10 12:42:34
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Jul 10 2008, 12:34 PM) [snapback]475074[/snapback]
Granted Kev gave away a penalty at Livingston and was sent off, everyone else hardly covered themselves with glory.
Never tht that i would be sticking up for him, but if every one else showed his courage and determination week after week we would do ok.
Wake played great the last game at fir hill, but it was his only time and i still think McGuffie is a luxury player, only plays well when the team is on top.

Roll on Saturday

Foobs blush.gif

Superkev would be a great squad player if we weren't restricted to a small squad of quality players.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 12:45:01
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 10 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]475076[/snapback]
Wonder why Largston isn't answering Scott's challenge.

Largston - the more you avoid answering this very simple question the more people will begin to draw their own conclusions.

It isn't going to go away. smile.gif
the words of a very wise man a few pages ago. tongue.gif

Maybe he's away getting measured up for gloves.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 12:47:45
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jul 10 2008, 12:33 PM) [snapback]475071[/snapback]
He spent most time on his usual left. The pitch made it impossible to go at defenders with the ball at your feet. The slope required Tiger Woods precision to get a cross in.

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When was humping the ball across the box 'putting'? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-10 12:49:49
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 10 2008, 12:41 PM) [snapback]475082[/snapback]
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to be honest i probably would.

Mortonjag has many agents! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-10 12:55:00
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 10 2008, 12:52 PM) [snapback]475095[/snapback]
then you obviously werent watching the rest of the season when he was in our top 3 most consistent players for the whole season.

He is extremely consistent-in fact his consistency could be likened to that of dribbly mince
mortonjag 2008-07-10 13:09:33
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 10 2008, 12:55 PM) [snapback]475101[/snapback]
Chemical, Nerve,Blood ? ph34r.gif

Official secrets act prevents me from saying too much, but if you e-mail

fing@nailgun.co.uk

and provide the password 'shooglyphobiarulesok' you may get some clues!
mortonjag 2008-07-10 13:13:15
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 10 2008, 12:52 PM) [snapback]475096[/snapback]
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You appear to be suggesting that I regard you as immature.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 13:23:23
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 10 2008, 01:10 PM) [snapback]475113[/snapback]
he gives 2 or 3 good crosses a game, MORE than anyone else in our team, he is the only player in our squad who gets to the byline to cross . He can beat fullbacks, his fitness and tracking back is essential when playing wingbacks, he scores impotant goals when no one else in our midfield chips in with any.

we played a 3-5-2 which meant no fullbacks, and Mcalister always turns inside which means absolutely no width at all....except finlayson. Even just finlayson standing on the right hugging the touchline was doing more than half the players in our team did last season, he created space for other people and is the only person in our team who knows how to make any kind of space for himself.

He is essential to our formation, and essential to our team but don't let the fact he's not cristiano ronaldo get in the way of your deluded views of how great a team we have in this division full of world class players we're in.

Truth is PT that his crossing is dire, as is Jimbos. Neither of those guys is a wing back. Chris Millar would probably have been fine playing wide right now that midfield's sorted-and THAT'S the problem-DI is being forced to play them in the only place they kinda half fit in!

I know Jimbo has enigmatic potential (that might end up as his epitaph) and I know Kev works his baws off, but we desperately need guys who can get crosses over consistently, and those two are non starters.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 13:31:03
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 10 2008, 01:25 PM) [snapback]475124[/snapback]
You're a sick old man. laugh.gif

I'm not VERY old!
mortonjag 2008-07-10 13:33:52
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 10 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]475119[/snapback]
I did not!
PS - You smell!

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I smell many things-the nostrils and olfactory nerves are wondrous creations of God.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 13:37:01
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jul 10 2008, 01:21 PM) [snapback]475120[/snapback]
The only acceptable terms used in polite company are the "nge" triumvirate - Minge, Clunge, and Flange.

Which incidentally is the name of a local lawyer's office .

It's a dirty wee hole.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 13:57:11 Tripe and onions

Scotch Broth

Liver and onions

Braised kidneys and mashed tatties

Doughballs

Mince patties

Rice pudding with raisins

Kedgeree

There are hunners more from the days when food was a necessity and MacDonalds was the local paper shop.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 14:00:29
QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Jul 10 2008, 01:57 PM) [snapback]475156[/snapback]
Most people do there best to avoid.

And you and your pals appear to have adapted a mindset that "he can do no wrong" - he's not f***ing Jesus!

That's Crawford.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 14:02:58
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jul 10 2008, 01:58 PM) [snapback]475158[/snapback]
...and yet you mock the Gillan clan for taking a very similar huff laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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Subtlety is lost on asses.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 15:34:25
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jul 10 2008, 02:30 PM) [snapback]475181[/snapback]
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QUOTE(leyTON @ Jul 10 2008, 02:55 PM) [snapback]475195[/snapback]
were is that from MJ?
cant find it on the bbc. not doubting you just curious
as for the real alexander, the report about her doings is out today, as told in the herald, which i cant be arsed copying

The 'Herald'.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 15:47:25
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jul 10 2008, 02:31 PM) [snapback]475184[/snapback]
dont know what kind of special species you have mutated into, but food is STILL a necessity to the average human being !!

What do the 'non average' ones eat?

I hope you're not about to suggest jobby.



What I should have said, of course, was 'when folk could not afford to regard food as anything other than a necessity'!
mortonjag 2008-07-10 15:54:13
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 10 2008, 03:44 PM) [snapback]475232[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-07-10 16:12:29 I'm pissed off with people girning when we dare to criticise Kevin-I've said repeatedly that the man is tremendous in terms of workrate, and a great asset to the squad, but I'll say again, despite being contradicted, when he finds himself in an attacking position, he just gets lost, and his crossing makes me want to greet.


Mortonjag-OCT 2nd 2005!!!


And my opinion has NOT changed. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-10 16:16:13 Have tw*t and fud been mentioned?
mortonjag 2008-07-10 16:22:24
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 10 2008, 03:55 PM) [snapback]475239[/snapback]
I used to be in the same boat, but last time I was in London (May) two people commented on the money. Actually, one commented, and the other fat b*****d gave me a sort of withering look and asked me if I had any different money. I did, but I lied and said I didn't because he was a p***k.

In all my times in England this had never happened to me before until this year.

Were the three of you playing poker?
mortonjag 2008-07-10 16:25:43
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jul 10 2008, 04:19 PM) [snapback]475256[/snapback]
deego was the last on mine! cant call him gay cos im female!

mrs Ton whats yer secret??? iv only had 302 views huh.gif lol

Change your name to '38DD' darling, and you'll never keep up with them! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-10 16:30:36
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 10 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]475255[/snapback]
No one asked you!

Well you got telt.One of the best wee wingers we ever had was called Jimmy Wilson (long before your time mind) blush.gif

QUOTE(rex manning @ Jul 10 2008, 04:22 PM) [snapback]475259[/snapback]
Ah, I cant resist a good Finlayson debate!

He cant' cross a ball, beat a man or tackle very well. When he gets the ball I start reading Dougies column in the program until the opposition restart the game with their customary throw in.

However, i'm no longer angry or frustrated with him, i've made my peace, i'm resigned to the fact that he will most likely end up our most capped player ever, have a testimonial and probably end up manager at some point.

So now I just smile, misty eyed, when i see him galloping with his head down the wrong way because... and this bit is extremely important... he does try very very hard.


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mortonjag 2008-07-10 16:37:59
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 10 2008, 04:34 PM) [snapback]475269[/snapback]
Jimmy Wilson is my uncle. Well he could be for all i know. anyway if i hadn't f***ed my knee when i was 14 you'd now be raving about Jamie Wilson.

Aye, but wee Jimmy was WEE! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-10 16:45:33
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 10 2008, 04:40 PM) [snapback]475280[/snapback]
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i have a weak bladder if that helps.

That's why it's easy to take the piss oot ye!
mortonjag 2008-07-10 16:51:30 Why do you think I retired-they call me 'Shipman' and I feel slightly insulted!

BTW .......ARE you changing your name to 38DD, or even less subtle 'Big Jugs'. Your profile page will burn out in twelve hours! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-10 16:58:12 HEE HEE HEE


Them 1 Us 3


LEAFY


gets all three!
mortonjag 2008-07-10 17:05:48
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 10 2008, 05:02 PM) [snapback]475296[/snapback]
Maybe he's just out his wanking charot as he works nightshift. 1eye.gif

Suffice to say I'd be up for it but would prefer to fight PieHutt.

Can we not make it Muay Thai, though? biggrin.gif



I'll fight the Prof if you fight Scotty Boy.

I have a secret weapon BTW!
mortonjag 2008-07-10 17:12:21
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 10 2008, 05:11 PM) [snapback]475302[/snapback]
I'd love to see PieHutt get beaten about the ring by a pensioner. laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-10 17:16:38
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 10 2008, 05:13 PM) [snapback]475305[/snapback]
isn't that a sextape being banded about peoples phones?

NOPE-it's Piehole getting gubbed.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 17:28:37 Potato fritters

Pineapple fritters

Scones and pancakes

Rhubarb and ginger jam

Does anybody remember a thing called 'Ulster Fry'-came in tins-a bit like spam, and you fried it and served with chips and deep fried eggs-well my Mum did!
mortonjag 2008-07-10 17:31:18
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Jul 10 2008, 05:25 PM) [snapback]475308[/snapback]
4-4.

We're not talkin' about motors Iain.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 17:38:21
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 10 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]475309[/snapback]
Gun expert, courtesy of the OTC at Uni. Schools aren't that bad in East Ren. rolleyes.gif

JC in the temple, I think he was chucking out soapy Soutar and Wiggy Trump so it was the Judean Nationailst party.

Or was the the nationalist party of Judea? laugh.gif



Well them Romans eventually crucified him as some kinda Nationalist upstart-'King' of the Jews.

Jesus was definitely at different times a Tory, a Liberal, and a Socialist par excellence. The one thing he was NEVER was a Nationalist.


Bawheid take note-JESUS WAS NOT A NATIONALIST
mortonjag 2008-07-10 17:41:41
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 10 2008, 05:38 PM) [snapback]475316[/snapback]
McAnespie's now training with Wycombe Wanderers. As regards 'keepers, Adam Bradley is a very good young 'keeper. rolleyes.gif

That's excellent news Smiffy-have you been rewarding him appropriately?
mortonjag 2008-07-10 17:45:27
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 10 2008, 05:41 PM) [snapback]475318[/snapback]
To be fair, pgmsc posted the Newby 'rumour' on this site at 10.03am last Friday - long before it was in the papers. rolleyes.gif



Tell me Smiffy-are you really from 'Staines' or does that just describe your boxers.

The reason I ask is I'm conjuring up a wee Limerick which I think you might enjoy.

Have you spoken to Shoogly of late? He's awfy quiet!
mortonjag 2008-07-10 17:50:03
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 10 2008, 05:39 PM) [snapback]475317[/snapback]
from viz's profanisaurus

a clowns pocket - a very big, very wet fanny



Duncan McNeill is a clown's pocket.

Yes-that sounds just right.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 17:52:51
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 10 2008, 05:47 PM) [snapback]475325[/snapback]
You're getting confused with the trialist Lee Nicholls. Lee Mitchell is one of our apprentices. BTW, the coloured trialist you highlighted is Rasheed Kamara. rolleyes.gif

The medical photographer had one of those in dermatology.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 17:55:29
QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Jul 10 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]475326[/snapback]
From what i remember at the time, it had been ruggedly reported through various sources. My take on it that he was just guessing the inevitable. Lets not piss on his achievement though.

True-don't want to bring him down too quickly.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 18:33:16
QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Jul 10 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]475341[/snapback]
I thought I killed the wee b*****d!? ohmy.gif

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Well you didn't-he was shot through the chest a year or so back by Super Nanny who gave up in despair shortly thereafter .He has now survived hanging by your bad self. Who will be next?

Fing's hit list is expanding rapidly!
mortonjag 2008-07-10 18:37:21
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 10 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]475342[/snapback]
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3-1 to Morton by the way.

BOTH of us Naitch!

We can safely conclude that's a fact then! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-10 18:40:00
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ Jul 10 2008, 06:36 PM) [snapback]475349[/snapback]
Season tickets should be allowed for these matches.

however i am assuming that they arent and the flimsy excuse give is that they have to pay the opposition..

makes you wonder just what kind of wage those part timers at Ayr are on? a fiver is more than enough to to watch a second rate and second division team.

I might attend the Hartlepool game but certainly not Ayr.

I asked the Partick fan at work whether his season ticket was valid for league games only..He duly informed me that he can get into one friendly and the first 2 rounds of the challenge and Cis cups if they are drawn at home.

so why arent we entitled to the same? mad.gif

JB.


Cos' Shoogly's skint.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 18:43:39 Durham, Durham,

Durham, Durham, Durham, Durham, Durhaaam
mortonjag 2008-07-10 18:48:08
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 10 2008, 06:43 PM) [snapback]475353[/snapback]
... is a sight which always makes me laugh. remember one time on the bus goin by the battery park. bus was pure mobbed and no-one talking to each other. it stopped cos the of the traffic just beside 2 mongrels rutting like there was nae the morra. i started pissing myself cos i knew everyone was mortified.

i swear the dug at the back was laughing back - tongue hangin out and a big crazed grin. mibbe u had to be there.

what always makes youse laugh???

Glesga polis in turbans.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 20:31:13
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 10 2008, 07:01 PM) [snapback]475375[/snapback]
Looking closely at Fing I'm sure there's a killer behind that nice smile that lulls folk into a false sense of security unsure.gif
Afterall Super Nanny is well buried under the patio.

After being nail gunned through both knee caps and having her head smashed to smithereens on her own naughty step! blush.gif

Fing is not to be messed with. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-10 20:38:36
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 10 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]475482[/snapback]
You don't respect me, I'm a nationalist laugh.gif

Salmond and Sturgeon are in politiics for the right reason
- to get independence for Scotland.

Unlike the countless Labour politicians who are in politics just to see what they can wangle out of the public purse and couldn't spell integrity.
Labour MP's like Gorbals Mick who cliamed £4k on taxi's for his wife. And the Labour MP who forced the Glasgow by-election on "health grounds" Who incidently was claiming £500k for his office and paying his staff. His office was his home and his staff consisted of his wife. He even had the cheek to claim travelling expenses for her.

...because they're on the f*ckin' make like all political scum Spurtle-greedy self centred c*nts who don't give a fig about the electorate. I'm not saying Bawheid's any worse than the rest-but only because that would be impossible.

He's doing his damndest though. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-10 20:42:49
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 10 2008, 08:39 PM) [snapback]475492[/snapback]
Naw he's naw........... dry.gif

The man is a balloon and probably a pouffe too.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 20:48:57
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 10 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]475473[/snapback]
2-0 up playing with 10 men - good stuff biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Jul 10 2008, 08:30 PM) [snapback]475476[/snapback]
I presume he has missed out McAlister smart arse. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 10 2008, 08:37 PM) [snapback]475487[/snapback]
mon e 10 men

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mortonjag 2008-07-10 21:17:37
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 10 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]475506[/snapback]
Naw he's naw.. dry.gif

Repeated blank denials always fill me with suspicion.

I conclude that at least one of you is a POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-07-10 21:30:20
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jul 10 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]475526[/snapback]
you are one scary individual! no my name is not changing! im on the piss most of the time and people tend to call me by my name not big jugs!!! lol

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I was only trying to boost your morale!

Try BIG JUGS of voddy, then! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-11 07:20:33
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 10 2008, 10:32 PM) [snapback]475560[/snapback]
Durham City 0 Morton 3

Morton cruised this game on in Durham’s immaculate little ground with its plastic pitch. The contrast between conditions tonight from last night at Tow Law could not have been more marked. The weather was dry and reasonably warm whilst the pitch was flat and lent itself to passing football. Morton started with what looks like being the first pick, at least until some of our injured players return and maybe even after that. The team was:

Stewart
Weatherson McManus Trialist (Smith)
Finlayson McGuffie Paartalu Masterton McAllister
Wake Newby


Just as on the Hamilton plastic, a few of our players found it hard to judge the bounce of the ball but once they settled they were well in charge for most of the game although Stewart did make a couple of decent saves during the game. The first goal after about 20 minutes was a nice passing move from Masterton to McAllister who found Wake in the box. He managed to finish well despite the attentions of a defender and the goalie who between them should really have done better.

The second goal was a thing of beauty from Paartalu with a sweet strike from about 25 yards. At half time it was 2-0 and the same team came out for the start of the second half. Within a minute Newby had scored the goal of the game. Weatherson found him out on the right with a long pass out of defence and from a spot about level with the 18 yard line between the penalty box and the touchline he fired a dipper across the keeper and into the far corner – Great goal which gave the keeper no chance.

Almost immediately the second Morton team took the park. Graham and Russell came on for Wake and Newby. The three black players came on for Masterton, McGuffie and McManus. A few minutes after that Stevenson and Lee Nicholl came on for Paartalu and McAllister and Bradley replaced Stewart. Lee Mitchell replaced Finlayson and then Kerrigan replaced Brian Graham who unfortunately picked up a knock.

The team was now lining up:

Trialist (Bradley)
Trialist (unknown black lad no 1) Weatherson Trialist (Smith)
Mitchell Trialist (Nicholl) Trialist (unknown black lad 2) Trialist (think Rashid Kamara) Stevenson
Russell Kerrigan


Only two players, Weatherson and Smith played the full game. Even with a team with 6 trialists and only 3 players with first team experience we were seldom troubled and Bradley only had one (easy) save to make.

My take on the game is that, strangely, Durham appeared a better side than Tow Law but they could’nt rely on their pitch to save them. Given Tow Law finished about sixth or seventh in the league and Durham won it, maybe its not so strange. As far as our lot go, I won’t comment on them all as I would be here all night but a few observations are:
  • Chris (Junior) Smith is worth signing. He’s a young player but handled everything put at him well
  • Russell’s ratio of scores to chances is appalling. Again he could have had a hat trick tonight. He was’nt missing by much but they were consistently going the wrong side of the post.
  • Kamara, if that’s who he is, looked good again and presented both Russell and Kerrigan several chances which they could’nt convert
  • The other two Black lads looked much better tonight on a sensible surface but the opposition was not great and so it’s hard to judge them.
  • Stevenson had his poorest (least good is maybe a better description)game of the three but still appeared to be trying and had some very decent touches. He is better in central midfield though rather than grazing out on the wing.
  • McManus has all the qualities to be the club captain – he looks our best signing.
  • Newby might make a serious impact on the first division
Anyway, all in all another decent run out and we saw all of the squad in action. We’ll see how things develop but even now we are starting to look far harder to beat than last season. I’ll reserve my judgement though until after Saturday and Tuesday’s games.



Thanks for the report. I'm assuming that your distaste for LEAFY is your reason for not even mentioning his goal! blink.gif

Anyway it's interesting to see that the best striker in the squad played the full ninety minutes.

I'm getting quite excited, and can't wait for Saturday to come!
mortonjag 2008-07-11 07:45:51
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 10 2008, 11:48 PM) [snapback]475600[/snapback]
Just to be clear, Tow Law were hoofing the ball up the park with some knowledge of how it would react on landing. It hits a molehill (of which there were plenty) or a hole (of which there were even more), its going to fox the opposition. They did'nt manage a decent cross into the box the whole game and it was their pitch. Crossing when the guys are either 10 ft below you or 10 ft above depending on the side of the pitch you are on is a significantly different skill to normal football.

If we had played Tow Law at Cappielow or on the pitch we were on tonight, we would have murdered them whether we had 'wingers' or not

Wingers as I understand the term, are from football I watched 20 years ago. The last of the breed were the likes of Davy Cooper. Now we have wide players who have to be able to defend as well. The need a far bigger range of skills apart from putting a cross in and if they are not good at that, they may well compensate in other areas. When did you see Jimmy Johnstone or Willie Henderson or Davy Cooper put in a saving tackle in their own box? The modern game is different although decent crossing is still a highly valuable asset for a player to have. Both McAllister and Finlayson have improved that aspect of their respective games but apart from that both bring other skills to the park as well.

Judging them on crossing ability alone is misleading.



One of the best left wingers Rangers ever had (Davie Wilson) played at FULL BACK against England for almost all of an international in which Eric Caldow broke his leg. That was FORTY SIX years ago! ph34r.gif

I'm not prepared to be drawn into a silly schoolboy argument over definitions. I remember we played at Gretna a few seasons back, and they were pumping ball after ball after ball, up the wings with rapid crosses being swung over. It was a f*cking NIGHTMARE for our defence.

We now appear to have a reasonably competent strike force. Our midfield looks strong if anything but silky (when will ANYBODY learn how to release a ball to LEAFY), but we're only going to score half the goals we should, unless we include decent crosses into our armoury, and PLEASE don't insult my intelligence by telling me that Jimbo and Kev are 'getting better'. Better keech is still keech.

Right-let me re-jig my post.


WE NEED TO CONSISTENTLY PUT DECENT CROSSES INTO THE BOX IF WE ARE TO TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF OUR STRIKERS



To me that reads 'we need wingers' but it's open to debate-just like the CRAZY debate we had a while back over the DEFINITION of a 'striker'.

Oh-and while I'm on...

SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A GEORDIE



mortonjag 2008-07-11 08:01:16
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 11 2008, 06:49 AM) [snapback]475651[/snapback]
i don't see the humour in that. each to their own etc.

Nor did I.

I hardly ever watch any of those daft you tube clips right to the end, but the wee guy in the Morton shorts (where was the Millions logo Shoogly) was a f***in' good wee boxer.

I DID find some of the facial expressions amusing mind you-those guys were 'givin' it laldy'!

I'd willingly sponsor the winner to fight Scotty in the forthcoming charity boxing match!
mortonjag 2008-07-11 08:12:25
QUOTE(Mick @ Jul 11 2008, 07:30 AM) [snapback]475655[/snapback]
Hang on - Leafy = Russell? Perhaps you could explain that one later.

The score was 3 - 0 (Wake, Paartalu, Newby)....

Have I missed something, or are you referring to one of the previous matches?

Mick

PS. Many thanks for the updated Tonsilitis - very much appreciated.

You mean LEAFY didn't score!

Oh dear-in future I'll have to rely on newspaper reports instead of match threads-and I was getting all excited.

C'mon LEAFY!


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mortonjag 2008-07-11 08:44:05 Respect should, IMO, NEVER be automatic.

As a child I was taught to respect my elders and authority figures-a general rule which I still find useful, but as the Bard said, 'the rank is but the guinea stamp', and as I've got older I've realised more and more that respect has to be earned.

I've found the recent 'Derek Collins' thread highly entertaining-let's face it, the majority of half decent footballers are 'adored' by the fans but surely adulation and respect are something quite different.

I have respect for Collins, though I don't know him personally. That respect is based on my observations of the man's demeanour throughout his distinguished career, and also on comments made by people who do know him.

I was not particularly disappointed when he left to further his career in a coaching capacity (something which was made perfectly clear at the time). It had become obvious that he'd lost his old class. He made a wise decision as a professional sportsman-I'm sure he put his career and family MILES ahead of Greenock Morton at the time, and I endorse that common sense.

A couple of Morton supporters got upset because the Gretna player coach appeared to ignore their friendly gestures during a competitive match. Could it be that DC had more pressing things on his mind-perhaps he was distracted-maybe indeed he hadn't a clue who they were? Some folk after all are quite forgettable!

They felt he'd been disrespectful!

Anyhow, Collins was subjected to an unwarranted and libellous tirade on this pubic massage board. One of the 'offended' fans has offered some kind of 'retraction' but it's no comfort that at least one other poster is trying to argue the 'Collins left us in the lurch' case in some kind of defence of the original scurrilous diatribe.

DC is integral to our success this season. I'll judge his performance as time goes by, but just for the sake of common decency, I'd like to argue that Derek Collins actions in respect of the club have at all times been beyond reproach.
mortonjag 2008-07-11 09:50:54
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 11 2008, 08:14 AM) [snapback]475662[/snapback]
I did'nt mention his goal because he did'nt score! He should have scored on at least three occasions but contrived to fire past the post every time. I don't dislike him as a player and he has some decent touches and skill but his finishing is woeful. If he had converted even half his chances, he would have been our top scorer on tour.

That's fantastic news-all strikers go through lean spells-once folk learn how to release the ball properly for him and he gets his eye back in too he'll be knockin' them in for fun like he did at Dumbarton and Brechin.

C'mon LEAFY
mortonjag 2008-07-11 10:06:30
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 11 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]475675[/snapback]
Which one is the balloon? smile.gif

Spurtle's call! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-11 10:11:18
QUOTE(MasterTon @ Jul 10 2008, 10:21 PM) [snapback]475557[/snapback]
It destroys one's nerves to be amiable every day to the same human being.
MortonJag.

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C'mon-Mortonjag never made that statement.

'Famous statements' are just common sense sayings by famous people, and Mortonjag's not famous yet!

Here's one the Monkey made.


'People keep attacking my daddy-even a wee Munky can see they're losers'.

mortonjag 2008-07-11 10:17:13
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 11 2008, 10:12 AM) [snapback]475693[/snapback]
A more mature reply would be along the lines of " The man's sexuality matters not a jot nor a tittle".

Eck may homo, hetero, Bi or a goat botherer, these pecadillos should be irrelevant in a political discussion.
That said Mental jug may be correct.


tit·tle
–noun
1. a dot or other small mark in writing or printing, used as a diacritic, punctuation, etc.
2. a very small part or quantity; a particle, jot, or whit: He said he didn't care a tittle.

I agree that Bawheid's possible Pouffery shouldn't upset possible balloons.
mortonjag 2008-07-11 10:22:33
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 10 2008, 09:35 PM) [snapback]475538[/snapback]
Old people trying to be cool annoy the piss out of me. Buzz Killington, likes.

Just keep wearing the nappies then son.
mortonjag 2008-07-11 10:24:46
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jul 10 2008, 10:38 PM) [snapback]475564[/snapback]
Is that the clap trap?

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Has anybody mentioned 'poosy'?
mortonjag 2008-07-11 10:35:46
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jul 10 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]474979[/snapback]
What did the deaf, dumb and blind kid get for Christmas?

Cancer.

I like sick jokes-I reckon I can be more disrespectful than most folk, and believe I've a good sense of humour, but I'm still trying to see the funny bit in that!

Is it quite subtle? blink.gif



What do you do when somebody takes a fit in the bath?

Fling in some washing powder and the dirty claes.
mortonjag 2008-07-11 10:50:06
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jul 11 2008, 10:46 AM) [snapback]475702[/snapback]
sean....

Just seen your post and ..... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif :l

i was on holiday.....cant blame me

Jim

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QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jun 30 2008, 06:42 PM) *
Mr Jag....you can be a pleb sometimes....button it for a change and actually try and not post for 5 seconds

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mortonjag 2008-07-11 11:26:04
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jul 11 2008, 10:54 AM) [snapback]475705[/snapback]
well you can......

I do think some of the things you type are warrented...but the rest!!!!!

That's grand-it just read like a childish piece of criticism and I thought maybe your identity had been stolen by a wean! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-11 11:52:58
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jul 11 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]475717[/snapback]
Wanted : Transit Van
Why, what's it done? laugh.gif

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FOR SALE-Rotweiler-will eat anything-very fond of children.
mortonjag 2008-07-11 11:55:20
QUOTE(The Shuffler @ Jul 11 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]475718[/snapback]
" I can't fault the boys for their effort "
Guess who ph34r.gif

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'We'll just have to grind out results'!
mortonjag 2008-07-11 12:07:36
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 11 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]475722[/snapback]
"What the f*** was that" - Mayor of Hiroshima

TonInDublin

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'Why we should be performing to a higher standard away from Cappielow is a mystery which our Management is unable to solve'. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-11 12:24:21
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jul 11 2008, 12:14 PM) [snapback]475724[/snapback]
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FOR SALE-Going Cheap

Two blue and white budgies.
mortonjag 2008-07-11 12:51:34
QUOTE(Mick @ Jul 11 2008, 12:40 PM) [snapback]475730[/snapback]
I've seen 'Breakfast in a tin', but never an Ulster fry.

There's nothing better than a good, home cooked (rather than out of a tin) Ulster fry.....

My Gran used to make tripe
and some of my aunts still love nothing better than pig trotters rip.gif


My Mum used to cook a whole ox tongue-she then put it in a casserole and put a plate on top with a big (56lb) I think weight on top to press it into shape.

It tasted nicer than anything out of the shops-don't know if she added extra seasoning or whatever.

Another thing we got when we were young and money was short was pease brose. It was a kind of acquired taste, but better than gruel-----------and of course properly made porridge beats anything out of a box, and costs about a quarter as much!
mortonjag 2008-07-11 15:12:04
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jul 11 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]475756[/snapback]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...uth/7502036.stm

According to the above article, Davie Irons will be guesting for Annan Athletic tomorrow in a testimonial for Queen of the South defender Andy Aitken. Strange that he would miss our first real test of pre-season to play in a meaningless game unsure.gif



It does seem a wee bit odd.

I guess it was agreed before our fixture was arranged.
mortonjag 2008-07-11 17:02:13
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 11 2008, 03:30 PM) [snapback]475772[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-07-11 17:07:32
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jul 11 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]475789[/snapback]
if you find a yellow one, we can talk business wink.gif

WANTED-grand piano for young lady with Queen Anne legs.
mortonjag 2008-07-11 17:57:04
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 11 2008, 05:28 PM) [snapback]475796[/snapback]
Love them or loath them but they are certainly part and parcel of our clubs history but how many guys on here would ever admit to being part of that era either being a main player or on the fringes of the MSC.
I will be the 1st to admit I was involved with the casual scene right from the start and in some ways right up until what I saw as its death at the end of the 90s although a lot of lads will say it died long before then.

To the young PC guys and the older law abiding folk of the board I have to say I don’t regret any of it, I got into a lot trouble with the law, a few sore faces but the good times certainly out weighed the bad, I met litterly hundreds of lads through the scene I doubt I would have met otherwise and many became very good close friends I would trust my life with. People nowadays seem to think the MSC was just a crowd of no hopers who met up on a Saturday afternoon and went on an alcohol fuelled crime spree but it was a bit more than this, most of the lads socialised during the week with each other, took group holidays together it was in some ways rather like a family. I know lads who were heavily involved in the Morton Casual scene who are now policemen, prison officers, firefighters and successful businessmen (edit to add) and I also know many who are now addicts and alcoholics and there is also more than a handful that are no longer with us.

I have loads of funny stories as well as some of the more casual like stories people would expect I will tell if this thread comes to anything but I first would like to hear what others thought of the casual scene at the time and what your views are on it now thinking back whether or not you were actually involved. I would also like to hear what the guys thought of it who were involved and those not and from those who were maybe to young but saw bits of it or have heard stories maybe from older brothers, even fathers or uncles of what it was like and if they would have liked to have been involved in it at the time.

I have spoke to a few people who attended games at the time and although they were not directly involved they say it was bizarre in many ways because although it was not for them they were glad that the MSC was around as football violence was almost assured at most grounds at the time including Cappielow so it took the direct threat away from them. Is that the way most feel or are these guys in the minority?

Either discuss it properly or not at all.




WELL! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

I'm honestly not sure where to start to 'discuss it properly'. dry.gif

Let's put it this way, I've never had any time for gratuitous violent neddery. You and your ilk should be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves. I feel sullied to share a pubic massage board with you.

I'm not sure if that's what the MSC stood for, but if it did-sorry it's not my style at all.

I've successfully done away with 29 Midden supporters, three Killie supporters, four Airdrie fans, and one Ton Director, though the last was a complete accident which I regretted for at least a week. I'm still after the original target.

Add to that Fing's mounting nail gun tally, and we're well on the way to 50 murders successful cases. I can honestly say, though, that every one has been concluded silently, efficiently, and without suffering.

It's the violent aspect of fan warfare which upsets me. Most objectives can be achieved in a civilised fashion.
mortonjag 2008-07-12 06:14:34
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 11 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]475874[/snapback]
Was just listening to my heart beat with a stethoscopes there....fekin brill !!

Hey Spurtle if you listen carefully you'll hear this:



lub-dup, lub-dup, lub-dup, lub-dup, lub-dup, lub-dup.......................a nice regular beating sound which happens about 60 or 70 times a minute. P.m. me if it's anything different.

Now, keep the 'guessing tubes' in your ears, and click the link to your favourite smiling naked picture of a freshly shaved wee Nickerless.

Try to ignore the instant 'hard-on' and listening very carefully you'll detect a very rapid 'boobily droop-boobily droop-boobily droop-boobily- droop- boobily droop -boobily droop- boobily droop! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-12 06:24:18 'We certainly need to stop pushing the self destruct button and approach matters in a concentrated and composed manner'.


D.D.F. Rae 9/02/2008
mortonjag 2008-07-12 06:31:16 Anyone for a liquorice torpedo?
mortonjag 2008-07-12 06:38:53
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 12 2008, 01:14 AM) [snapback]475996[/snapback]
Surely when you get to your age nappies are the first thing you pull out of the underwear drawer on a morning? Or you still at the occasional dribble stage? I suppose fanny pads probably do the job then, eh?

A vulgar young man with an over fertile imagination, you represent ageism at its most despicable.

Fanny pads are very expensive-I just tie a wad of gamgee round my knob using masking tape from Lidls.
mortonjag 2008-07-12 06:58:05 As I suspected, gratuitous violent neddery has been endorsed.

I shall stick to the lethal injections in tranquil surroundings.

BTW did anybody else see Arfur and Shoogly bootin' f*ck oot a disabled Midden supporter under the Railway bridge on Sinclair Street in March 1961.

It was definitely them 'cos I heard ---' Douglas, shall we have a stramash', followed instantly by ' I'm up for it Arthur'.
mortonjag 2008-07-12 07:04:18
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 11 2008, 06:36 PM) [snapback]475815[/snapback]
that's some delay

Alistair Trumpet, the forum's very own Oscar Wilde. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-12 07:14:51 It's SUPPOSED to be a friendly, but I have a sneaky suspicion that one one or two of the Ayr lads will want to put one over on us!

The weather's looking good-I'm fully expecting a couple of hundred curious Ayr fans to turn out and reckon we might hit 1500.

I'm going for quite a tight finish-3-2 to the Ton, with LEAFY scoring from a penalty late in the second half! laugh.gif

PS the Monkey predicts we'll deliver four crosses into the box.
mortonjag 2008-07-12 07:33:36
QUOTE(Savo @ Jul 12 2008, 02:50 AM) [snapback]476018[/snapback]
I can hear the strains of 'cannae take it, cannae take it' laugh.gif
Takes skill to deal with a windblower in those gales, we harnessed the conditions better haha.
Plus the socks should have enabled you to run up the wing just like the 'soft-footed ponies' that Golden Casket go on about in their adverts on the back of the match programme laugh.gif

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You're well out of date!!

IF CONFECTIONERY WAS A SPORT, SCOTLAND WOULD WIN THE WORLD CUP WITH THIS LINE UP!



Chocolate Caramels






Butterscotch.... Buttered Brazils.... Dairy Fudge.... Chocolate Italian Creams




Polly Pastilles... Rich Liquorice Toffees... Chocolate Peppermint creams... Rich Butter Toffees




Chocolate Assorted Creams........ Glucose Barley Sugar




It's a pretty strong looking side, though I have reservations about the two central defenders. Buttered Brazils is guilty of nutting his opponents, and regularly picks up needless bookings, while Dairy Fudge can be rather soft in the tackle.
mortonjag 2008-07-12 11:04:51
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jul 12 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]476069[/snapback]
Will be good to get back to Cappielow, friendly game or not. Looking to see how Smith plays again, if he performs today he might well get himself a deal. Will be interesting to see if any of the other trialists get a game, Rashid Kamara for one who's had some pretty decent reviews from the last 2 games.

I don't know about anyone else, but I have a bit of a worry that Dean Keenan is going to injure one of our important players today blink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-12 11:13:22
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jul 12 2008, 09:27 AM) [snapback]476046[/snapback]
wtf is going on, where are all these females coming from??? i thought me and Mrston had this place all sewn up! is someone at the wind up here???

Aye, but you and Mrs Ton sound like PROPER women. No harm to Blue Eyes and her angelic wee buddy, but I bet the first time they read a word like 'knob' they'll blush like little girls.
mortonjag 2008-07-12 11:24:06
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 12 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]476060[/snapback]
My late mother was a fantastic baker, regretably not so hot at cooking meals.(well some)

Tablet (all sorts)
toffee apples
apple pies
scones
cakes
Dumpling (fantastic)
etc


sha was good at

mince and doughballs
stovies
liver and onions
soups - especially lentil!



Memories too of my Mum's 'clootie' dumplings-did yours manage to get a thick chewy 'skin' round them? Delicious cold!
mortonjag 2008-07-12 11:29:25
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 12 2008, 10:41 AM) [snapback]476068[/snapback]
Bring back the monkey and fing MJ !!!!!

TonInDublin



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Don't worry TiD, they're just having a wee break for study-they'll be back soon.

I was just wondering that nobody has mentioned the vulva by its proper anatomical name, though I've little doubt that I'm about to be called a decrepit old c*nt who doesn't know his motors.
mortonjag 2008-07-12 11:34:01 William of Orange is a


POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-07-12 11:48:43
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 12 2008, 11:44 AM) [snapback]476091[/snapback]
Do you have to shag Donga to get in, or blow off Boozy?

If so you can all f*** right off.

Bitches the lot of you ph34r.gif

Hi Sean-if you look at the Jessie Boys' announcement thread you'll find 18 pages of useful information!
mortonjag 2008-07-12 12:07:19
QUOTE(big blue eyes @ Jul 12 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]476097[/snapback]
I've noticed you have an awful lot to say old man. Well Angel and I have no interest in wrinkled old willies.

I'm hoping this Newby chap's all they're saying-he's supposed to be very fast and scores regularly. Anyway-off to get myself ready for the game.
BBE wub.gif

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You're hardly on here and already you're jumping to conclusions. Mortonjag is no more interested in wee lassies than you and your friend are in prune like penises.

I actually feel quite hurt. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-12 12:19:58
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 12 2008, 12:03 PM) [snapback]476098[/snapback]
Stuff reading 18 pages of useful info rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-12 12:25:13
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 12 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]476104[/snapback]
The very best of luck to Cowboy.

I hope DI and DC never have to suffer the embarrassment of their pupils running to the big Shoogly Headmasters office and getting their way over the management team. Shoogly should have dished out 6 of the best to his wayward brats.

Probably the most cringe worthy episode in DDF's tenure.



...and set him back two seasons in the process! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-12 12:29:27
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 12 2008, 12:25 PM) [snapback]476107[/snapback]
Aye, but we are real women, not a figment of someones imagination. rolleyes.gif

You're so right Mrs T.

Probably Puggsy or one of the other weans thinking they're so clever as always. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-12 12:40:18
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 12 2008, 12:14 PM) [snapback]476102[/snapback]
Aye, old Betty used make a right good plate of the mince and Tatties with the Doughballs blush.gif

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BUT

I couldn't help thinking that the best purveyor of mince and dough balls in Inverclyde in recent years has been Master Chef McInally.

Back on topic-did anybody else like hough as a wee snack after the broth had been made with it?
mortonjag 2008-07-12 12:45:36
QUOTE(Mick @ Jul 12 2008, 12:34 PM) [snapback]476114[/snapback]
Hey, you've forgotten the Chocolate Russian Caramel....wide left. Fantastic. wink.gif

Aye but he doesn't feature in the programme-I gather he's a bit of a super sub like this one


mortonjag 2008-07-12 12:55:18
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 12 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]476112[/snapback]
I have never had another name on this forum...I'm sure a mod could verify this if you really wanted to know.

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OOOPS-sorry young man-I didn't mean to offend-you just seem so full of mischief! blush.gif

QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 12 2008, 12:33 PM) [snapback]476113[/snapback]
Not that clever. rolleyes.gif A bit more subtle maybe. Trying to get the guys on here acting like a bunch of dogs on heat. Yes it worked. smartass.gif

I suppose she COULD be genuine-in fact it's maybe a wee bit hasty to be too scathing.

Mind you she DOES seem almost too good to be true-don't you think? blink.gif

Plus that other Angel eyes one.
mortonjag 2008-07-12 13:02:03
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 12 2008, 12:50 PM) [snapback]476123[/snapback]
sean,

just sent a mail to the mods to add you. When they get a chance they'll add you and when you refresh your browser the forum will become clear to you, in all its resplendent pishiness.

TonInDublin

ps I noticed Donga got offered a shag and Boozie a gumshy - yet I got feck all and I did the work for you - thanks for nothing mate !

Yer furry glove's in the post.
mortonjag 2008-07-12 13:46:48
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 12 2008, 01:36 PM) [snapback]476135[/snapback]

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So Jimbo and Kev were sent out for the half time Pizzas-aye very good Bryan.

The Monkey has been designated the task of totalling up the number of DECENT crosses from the two of them today. He shall report back! cool.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-12 13:50:41 I notice the taxi needs a new front near side wheel trim.
mortonjag 2008-07-12 17:52:36 More or less what Spurtle said-a total waste of £8. Disagree on one point-Ayr were FAR more up for it in the last half hour and thoroughly deserved to win.

Looks like we've beefed up the midfield and removed any creativity from it minus Midge, and the languishing Jamie. Defence looked improved in general but a couple of lax mistakes (one for wee Williams poacher's goal). I though Stewart looked not too bad.

I deliberately went to the Ayr end for the second half to get a good look at our attack. Jimbo and Kev-our so called wing backs were an utter waste of space today. There were five decent crosses in the whole game-two from Newby, two from Spoonsy, and one from Masterton, but nobody got onto them. I thought Newby looked lively-feel quite comfortable about him at this stage.

I said before I saw them-we'll be hard to beat this season, but I honestly see very little attractive football in prospect.

I hope I'm wrong, and SHOOGLY-I WANT MY £8 back.
DAYLIGHT ROBBERY
mortonjag 2008-07-12 18:15:07 I doubt if wee Williams gave a f*ck and he punished us with a well taken poacher's goal. Spoonsy was one of the few today who really looked 'up for it' when he eventually moved forward. Deano took no real abuse and was applauded off by the Ton fans.

I think Ayr are looking quite promising for a good run this season.
mortonjag 2008-07-12 18:21:18
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Jul 12 2008, 07:14 AM) [snapback]476032[/snapback]
It's SUPPOSED to be a friendly, but I have a sneaky suspicion that one one or two of the Ayr lads will want to put one over on us!

The weather's looking good-I'm fully expecting a couple of hundred curious Ayr fans to turn out and reckon we might hit 1500.

I'm going for quite a tight finish-3-2 to the Ton, with LEAFY scoring from a penalty late in the second half! laugh.gif

PS the Monkey predicts we'll deliver four crosses into the box.

FIVE to be precise! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-12 18:28:23 ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-12 18:36:43
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 12 2008, 06:21 PM) [snapback]476269[/snapback]
I've been to all our pre season games and that was our worst performance. I wonder if 4 games in 6 days (and 3 in four days) is catching up. I was surpirsed that we did'nt use more subs and thought maybe Stevenson might have provided a little more guile but maybe the manager is thinking of Tuesday now.

A few players did'nt turn up today. As others have said, McGuffie was poor and the trialist at left back had his worst game so far. Given he has played 90 minutes in all the games maybe he's due a little slack.

Jim McAllister looked completely disinterested today and has not played that well in pre season so far. Kevin on the other wing at least was trying and achieved more than McAllister today.

Newby got hardly any service but made the most of what he got. He'll be fine for us. Once again Russell showed that he has great positional sense and lousy finishing. He should have equalised but somehow managed to blast over from 3/4 yards.

Oh well, its only pre season but maybe the opposition today was a step up from the last three opponents!

When did this happen! mellow.gif I certainly saw McGuffie blast one over quite near the end.

As I said, I was up at the Ayr end all second half. Several times LEAFY screamed to the midfield to play the ball forward as he started a run and he was either ignored or had got into an offside position before the penny dropped! It takes two to tango-and by the way, his finishing was pretty lethal at Brechin including that during one match against us. If anything Wakey was the one who looked well off the pace today.
mortonjag 2008-07-12 18:44:31
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 12 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]476277[/snapback]
2nd half, ball fell perfectly for him about 3 yards out. Blasted well over the bar, and I mean well over mad.gif
Are you tryin' to take the piss Spurtle-I was effin THERE and he didn't play in the first half! ph34r.gif dry.gif


Was that IN ADDITION to the one I quite clearly saw McGuffie blast over-which resulted in him burying his head in his hands in disbelief? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-12 19:31:13
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 12 2008, 06:59 PM) [snapback]476287[/snapback]
I'm basing that on what I know to be fact.

You seem to be suggesting that he's driving a wedge between the players and 'the club'! mellow.gif

QUOTE(lofty @ Jul 12 2008, 07:06 PM) [snapback]476289[/snapback]
i will second that.

So do you!

First it was Spoonsy the betting scam blaggard, followed by Spoonsy the 'Alky', followed by Spoonsy the overweight unfit 'couldn't give a f*ck' waster, and now ladies and gentlemen, we have Spoonsy the last bad apple at the club who's single handedly perpetuating some rift between players and Management.

Guys-I'm NOT suggesting you are wrong-I don't know either way, but this afternoon I saw a fit looking Weatherson who appeared well 'up for it'.

Could it be time to move on?
mortonjag 2008-07-12 20:59:37
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 12 2008, 08:02 PM) [snapback]476296[/snapback]
It was Russell with about five minutes to go. Ball came across to him 4 yards out and he smacked it over the bar. The identity of the culprit was confirmed by McManus shouting ' Unlucky Beany!'

For goodness sake admit that Russell gets into scoring positions (probably better than anyone else in the squad) but then does'nt (score that is)

See you MJ, you would cause an argument in an empty room!

The gospel according to Tonsilitis and McManus!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

All I know is that I was right up at that end-I saw SOMEBODY blast the ball over from close range-NO WAY was it four yards-more like ten to twelve-and I immediately saw McGuffie-head in hands looking like a very guilty party. I asked Spurtle if that was a different situation from the one you described and he ORIGINALLY agreed with.

Why don't YOU admit that we haven't YET found a way to release the ball properly for the boy-I bet he's twice as frustrated as the fans, and he DID score for fun at Brechin!

Oh-and Tonsilitis-my Mum used to say-'It takes two to make an argument'! blush.gif


C'mon


LEAFY
mortonjag 2008-07-12 21:07:47
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 12 2008, 08:18 PM) [snapback]476302[/snapback]
Sadly, that's pretty much spot on. Hard to dispute any of it. Like yourself, mj, I'm privvy to certain imfo that I refuse to publicise. smartass.gif
Totally disagree.

He may well have bust a gut on the pitch but giving his all for Morton includes maintaining a professional conduct off the pitch and respecting the jeresy, which he certainly never did.

His crocodile tears on the pitch at New Broomfield never fooled me, they were more than likely tears of guilt. dry.gif

As I said, I DON'T know, but if you and others DO know that Weatherson is 'BAD' for the Club right now, I find it inconceivable that the Club doesn't know too.

WHY are they not getting shot of him? huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-12 21:12:10
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 12 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]476322[/snapback]
Was sitting across from Leafy this evening in TGI Fridays Braehead, in his Morton Trackie ph34r.gif



I hope he wasn't trying to salt his chips before the plate was on the table! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-12 21:23:39
QUOTE(ton_in_teuchterland @ Jul 12 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]476294[/snapback]
Inspired by the ageism thread, what are the biggest age differences between you and someone you've slept with? My youngest was 3 years younger, my oldest was 17 years older... ph34r.gif

Who's brave enough to share?

Mortonjag's new partner was exactly half his age when we met! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-12 21:33:09
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 12 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]476329[/snapback]
I've asked myself that question a million times. We should've punted him years ago. mad.gif

This actually worries me. We got rid of JM and the new DI/DC management team has been lauded ever since they arrived.

Word from the training ground (straight from the horses mouth and I DO know this) is that morale and motivation have never been higher.

You'll never get any squad where all the guys apply themselves to the same degree, but Spoonsy's looking fitter and more 'up for it' than for ages-so WHAT is he doing to perpetuate the rift which MidTONs alluded to?

If it's 'passive' and he still performs on the pitch, so be it.

If he's ACTIVELY mixing it-GET HIM TO F*CK NOW!
mortonjag 2008-07-12 21:41:48
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 12 2008, 09:35 PM) [snapback]476344[/snapback]
Russell definitely skied a decent chance over the bar at the Wee Dublin End.

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From exactly how many yards out?
mortonjag 2008-07-12 21:45:47
QUOTE(dmc @ Jul 12 2008, 09:26 PM) [snapback]476341[/snapback]
So you were 18?! ph34r.gif

Don't be a Silly Billy-I said Mortonjag's NEW partner, and I'm not telling you his age.
mortonjag 2008-07-12 21:49:45
QUOTE(rawheed rex @ Jul 12 2008, 09:45 PM) [snapback]476348[/snapback]
21,661 clap clap clap deep real deep

Every one a gem Rexy boy-just you listen to old Jaggy and you won't go wrong! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-12 21:53:15
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 12 2008, 09:43 PM) [snapback]476347[/snapback]
8.75 laugh.gif

Thank f*ck somebody saw it properly-could you do me a wee favour and p.m. that fact to Tonsilitis?

Don't be upset if he claims McManus shouted 'Hard luck Beany-and only 4.14 yards oot mate'! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-12 22:12:34
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 12 2008, 09:55 PM) [snapback]476359[/snapback]
Well? happy.gif

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Well-you're NOT paying attention to the other threads!!!

Five half decent crosses-nobody got on the end of any unfortunately.

Two from Newby, two from Spoonsy, and one from Masterton.

On one occasion in the second half Superkev, for some unknown reason decided to attempt one with his left foot instead of taking on the defender-he sclaffed it. In the first half Jimbo turned inside his man (as always) and speculatively hit the ball across for one of the Ayr centre backs to clear.

That was IT. The Monkey took his wee calculator, but only needed the fingers of one hand! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-12 22:27:00
QUOTE(cmonaton @ Jul 12 2008, 10:15 PM) [snapback]476363[/snapback]
leafy is and always will be a second division player.he has been crap since he came here .time he was shipped out to where he belongs.

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That's the kind of statement which has a habit of coming back to haunt you. He has been disappointing, and I believe (note how I use the English language) he will improve, ESPECIALLY when others learn how to supply him properly. dry.gif

I wouldn't even describe Jimbo or Kevin as 'CRAP', but they are both F*CK ALL USE as wingers.

I wouldn't describe the current midfield as 'CRAP' but they lack imagination and seem never to have heard of a through ball.

What I would describe as 'CRAP' is unqualified opinion presented as fact.
mortonjag 2008-07-12 22:30:51
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 12 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]476369[/snapback]
What was the crowd like?

I'm sure we cleared 1000-probably nearer 1500. Ayr had about 150.
mortonjag 2008-07-12 22:34:22
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 12 2008, 10:29 PM) [snapback]476372[/snapback]
I simply haven't read all the other threads yet. happy.gif

Cheers for the update.

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I'm off to bed with my wee abacus! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-13 06:15:41 I'd imagine that if Sir David Murray came to Scapa for a Cup tie he could afford the full entry fee.
mortonjag 2008-07-13 06:37:20
It is my pleasure today to welcome Ayr United to Cappielow for what promises to be a stirring pre-season encounter.


ANON 2008
mortonjag 2008-07-13 06:49:06
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 12 2008, 11:45 PM) [snapback]476444[/snapback]
Youngest was 15 - my girlfriend at the time who was turning 16 three weeks later - it was on my 16th birthday.

Oldest was 53 when I was 22. Not good. Enough said. Mother of someone I was seeing who decided she wanted to blast a few tunes on a young pink oboe. Shudder thinking about it.

TonInDublin



Pity that-I once shafted a 72 year old woman and loved every minute of it.
mortonjag 2008-07-13 06:55:02
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Jul 13 2008, 12:17 AM) [snapback]476482[/snapback]
Is scot gillan naw gettin in then?
In fact, wheres saltyton?

Scott Gillan was a founder non member.

I'd love him to join the adults' forum-FFS we could help him to grow up to be a big boy, which I'm sure he'd appreciate.

I don't think he REALLY needs his big fierce Daddy to be holding his hand all the time.

I'd even tell him categorically that he
WAS NOT, IS NOT, AND NEVER WILL BE A POUFFE



Trouble is, I'd tell him on the normal forum but the words 'Gillan' and 'pouffe' in the same post will guarantee me an automatic ban from the BIG MOD POUFFE. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-13 07:11:26 Alistair Donald might offer him a wee sweetener to drop one on Fort Matilda! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-13 07:18:50
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jul 13 2008, 07:11 AM) [snapback]476547[/snapback]
You make some very good points there Barbie.
I was a young teenager at the time when the MSC first started out and it was exciting. I was not a member of the MSC but understood what it stood for and what it was all about. The clothes were a must and the music was great then.
Going on the footy specials, what an experience. Although I never reallly got involved in the fighting, bit of a s***bag tbh, there was a couple of occassions where I had no option but to join in, mostly at Love St. It was good to know that there was someone looking out for your back though.
Every team had a crew and I witnessed some great running battles coming out of footy grounds.
The MSC was not something I would either condone nor decry, it was simply part of my life and growing up process. I like many others, have made some good friendships over the years through my support of Morton. Many of these friends were battlehardened members of the MSC and it doesn't seem to have done them any harm.
Perhaps the moral code that was strictly adhered to by the casual movement, should be drummed into some of the youth of today.

Yours is the third or fourth post like this-all from guys I respect.

Clearly I just missed out on it completely as I'm older. When I went to Cappielow in my teens, I remember plenty of drunks and daft scraps, but I never saw any organised 'square goes', or running battles.

I still find it hard to associate gratuitous violent neddery with 'cultural necessity', mind! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-13 07:32:29 JOHN F Kennedy's father, Joseph P Kennedy, is credited with the wisdom which advocates "when the going gets tough, the tough get going". Phrased in hard-ball language, all Joe Kennedy meant was that running away from a hard problem was no solution at all.

As the by-election in Glasgow East enters its second week of campaigning, to say Labour have a tough time ahead fending off an SNP growing in confidence is an understatement. Labour's control of the electoral process looked tilted in its favour, what with a brief campaign period, a polling day held during Glasgow's fair fortnight holiday and uncomfortable legislation at Westminster, namely the Embryology Bill, rescheduled for later in the year. Opposition parties are complaining, but their complaints are low key and weakened by the recognition that, if their hands were on the tiller, they would be steering a similar course.

However, Gordon Brown's reluctance to visit Glasgow and campaign alongside the Labour candidate Margaret Curran is a problem of a different order.


Labour's mantra for the non-appearance of the Prime Minister has been simply that "prime ministers don't do by-elections". This isn't true. Tony Blair appeared once in a by-election, Hamilton South in 1999. The MP, George Robertson, had been appointed Nato secretary general. Rather than wait till the end of the summer and allow the MP to resign, Blair fast-tracked Robertson's peerage, holding a quick by-election in September. Private polling told Labour they would have a tough time in the constituency and, although Downing Street pointed out that PMs generally avoided any direct involvement in by-election campaigns, Blair went to Hamilton to show, as his aides pointed out at the time, "he was not afraid to face questioning from the public or political rivals". Labour scraped over the line with a 556 majority, losing 28% of its previous support. The point here is that Blair, worried he would lose a seat in Scotland just at the time the newly installed First Minister, Donald Dewar, was discussing his first legislative programme, ditched the convention that he should stay in London.

The parallels with Glasgow East are glaringly obvious. Brown's administration is under siege from all quarters; a failing economy, declining popularity in opinion polls and barely able to control his own party in the Commons. The excuse that prime ministers don't visit by-elections is lame, cowardly and shows disrespect for the electorate of Glasgow East that can only play into the SNP's hands. If Brown took the advice given to Blair, then Glasgow would offer him a five-star platform to face the public and his rivals.

Every political party needs its leader in a time of crisis. Brown says he is the man to lead Britain out of the economic crisis. So why isn't he the man who can help lead Margaret Curran to victory? The reality is that Labour have a leader who has not won since leaving the Treasury, not even the job of PM. His advisers fear that Brown's general demeanour, was it to be put on show in Glasgow East, would only harm Labour's chances. He is being kept away from Glasgow, not because prime ministers don't do by-elections, but because this Prime Minister can't do elections. That presents Labour with a looming problem: how will they keep Brown away from the 2010 general election? If Labour lose on July 24, that will be one problem the voters of Glasgow East may have solved for them.





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(Editorial in today's Sunday Herald)
mortonjag 2008-07-13 07:51:05
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 4 2008, 11:23 PM) [snapback]471667[/snapback]
have you got your shareholding up above 1% yet?

You are one nosey c*nt Alistair. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-13 07:58:44 Donkey Dave told me a week ago that Alistair's back, and the forms have been duly signed. I'll be checking with Companies House to make sure THEY get it right! smile.gif

I was hoping to catch a glimpse of him yesterday at Cappielow. I wanted to ask him a wee question.

Shoogly was there (trying to look intelligent as usual), with a few of his usual satellites but there was no sign of AD. Shoogly couldn't have answered my question.

Anybody spot him in the Cowshed? blink.gif

mortonjag 2008-07-13 08:16:45
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jul 13 2008, 07:52 AM) [snapback]476552[/snapback]
My personal favourites (keeping it football related):
"All that I know most surely about morality and obligations, I owe to football"
Albert Camus

"The socialism I believe in is everyone working for each other, everyone having a share of the rewards. It's the way I see football, the way I see life"

Bill Shankly

I thought that was another 'Shooglism'. angel.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-13 09:23:59
QUOTE(Tooth & Nail @ Jul 13 2008, 08:31 AM) [snapback]476558[/snapback]
Didn't think they had as many as that. Very few travelling support.

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I was sitting among them in the second half and I did a rough head count.They thoroughly enjoyed it too! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-13 09:27:27
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 13 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]476565[/snapback]
It would have been a nice gesture if the club had donated to this project in some way. It does look a bit like the fans have paid to up-grade it, now we will start charging? unsure.gif

It's back to the old 'us and them ' thing Mrs T.

If there was not a palpable divide between the Chairman and the fans-this would not be a problem, and only ONE PERSON is responsible for that.
mortonjag 2008-07-13 09:48:10
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 13 2008, 09:35 AM) [snapback]476581[/snapback]
It just twigged on me. You can see the naughty subjects people have started on here when you check the profiles ! ohmy.gif Oh dear!

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Correct Mrs T.

You don't have to be a psychologist-just choose anybody's profile and call up the topics they've started.

Take Spurtle for example. It only takes twenty seconds to spot a rampant homophobic paranoid Nationalist! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-13 20:40:51
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 13 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]476629[/snapback]
hasn't mr donald written to you yet? laugh.gif

I've had several letters from Mr Donald.
mortonjag 2008-07-13 20:43:30
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jul 13 2008, 12:06 PM) [snapback]476631[/snapback]
Sorry you missed me Jag - whats the question and I will answer it now... rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

Oh, you're still with us Dave-I just wanted to know if Alistair Donald is now officially listed at Companies House.

It'll save me checking tomorrow! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-13 20:47:00
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 13 2008, 04:50 PM) [snapback]476669[/snapback]
Thought I would have seen your brother at today's GMST AGM, with plenty of questions?

Would you care to explain exactly what that is supposed to mean?
mortonjag 2008-07-13 20:55:27
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Jul 13 2008, 03:17 PM) [snapback]476652[/snapback]
Went out last night and stunned to wake up this morning and find 5 pages on this blink.gif Williams got more plaudits than boos with the exception of a couple of tossers who directed some very personal comments at him. In terms of abuse it doesn’t even come close to what happened to the left back at Durham yet that was laughed off as banter.

Football is full of guys who have let their team down and the only thing that matters is they produce the goods Cantona being the classic example. Fergie only ever makes an example of players who are not good enough or past their best. I don’t know what Weatherson is alleged to have done but I do know that as long as Davie and Derek value him as a player they will tolerate him. I actually think he is one of our better players and his versatility makes him an asset.

What concerns me more (I know that its early doors and I really, really hope I am wrong ph34r.gif ) is that having seen Newby in three games he doesn’t look a better player than Williams (who scored with his one on one with the keeper,) and even more scary Chris Aitken looks a better player than Masterton who apart from one very good through ball yesterday has provided little to suggest he’s the deadball expert we all expected.


A neutral would have been hard pressed to spot the Division 1 side yesterday. FACT


QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jul 13 2008, 06:07 PM) [snapback]476683[/snapback]
I only saw Newby yesterday and was reasonably impressed with him. His movement was good and seemed comfortable and mobile with the ball at his feet. He made a couple of good runs off the shoulder of the last defender and made the most of little service.

As for Aitken, I would take him in a heartbeat. He reminds me very much of Paul Scholes in the way that he rarely wastes a ball and is good for 5-10 goals a season. Him and Keenan will do a good job in midfield for Ayr this year.

What concerned me most on yesterday's showing was that I couldn't see anyone from that midfield 5 making a killer pass. Jim was woeful, Kevin was a bit better but still didn't really threaten and McGuffie and Paartalu were very quiet. I was pleased with the way Masterton constantly dropped deep and looked for the ball from the back 3 and most of his passes found Morton players. However, while he can dictate play from in there, he cannot split defences on a regular basis; for that I reckon that the only player in the squad who would be capable of that is Jamie Stevenson (possibly Weatherson too) because while McGuffie and Paartalu do a decent job, I have yet to see anything from either that would suggest they could provide that wee bit creativity in the opposition half. I reckon that if he were given a little freedom to roam, Stevenson could provide that creativity with Masterton pulling the strings from deep.

I've been saying we'll be hard to beat and dire to watch!

QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 13 2008, 06:24 PM) [snapback]476691[/snapback]
the thing that concerned me was we are useless at playing a 3-5-2 formation, we had no attacking threat at all last season when playing it and it looks like its going to be the exact same this time. Whats the point in having Wingbacks who have to think about not getting caught out when they go on the attack and also three midfielders, none of whom runs past the forwards. Mcalister is being wasted again when we play him at wingback.

we looked twice the team we were for most of last season when we went to 3-4-3, our defence looked stronger as we basically had two holding midfielders, Finlayson didn't have to do all the work on the right on his own, and finally Jim looked to have found a position in which he could flourish. We looked like we'd score two or three every game and didnt really look like conceding.

i don't see why we haven't stuck with that.

I know its only a friendly but after seeing that performance im dreading playing this season with 3-5-2 as we have no attacking threat, just brought back so many memories of the dross we had to suffer last season.

We need wingers.
mortonjag 2008-07-13 21:03:26
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jul 13 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]476644[/snapback]
I thought big smith looked ok yesterday and could be a good addition to the squad.

I was surprised that Stevenson never came on yesterday. With the team finding it difficult to break Ayr down I would have liked to have seen him come an at half time and play just behind the front two. We missed a bit of creativity yesterday and with him showing an improved attitude and hunger last week I found it strange that he never got on and attack their defence


So was I!
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jul 13 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]476649[/snapback]
You are not wrong. It was Russell. Couldn't hit the proverbial barn door.

I thought no2 was fine when playing as part of a back 3 but lost when pushed forward to accomodate Weatherson.
Smith at 3 was OK , still feel we lack pace at the back, creativity in midfield and clinical finishing, but apart from that ! Pre season better than close season but we need the real thing to see how good they are.

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Is that why he was signed?

QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Jul 13 2008, 03:28 PM) [snapback]476654[/snapback]
Does that mean 99.9% of your posts are "CRAP" wink.gif

No.

QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 13 2008, 06:11 PM) [snapback]476684[/snapback]
he missed 4 one on ones with the keeper on monday, apparently should have had a hat-trick on thursday according to andy and skied the ball over the bar from 6 yards out yesterday.

we're releasing him fine, he's just a terrible finisher.

KEECH
mortonjag 2008-07-13 21:14:15
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 13 2008, 04:02 PM) [snapback]476657[/snapback]
the question has been asked

Which question?
mortonjag 2008-07-13 21:19:56
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 12 2008, 09:20 AM) [snapback]476044[/snapback]
Ps FTAO what happened to the photo of you and monkey???

BRING BACK THE MONKEY!!!!! sad.gif

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QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 13 2008, 10:24 AM) [snapback]476599[/snapback]
The Monkey's name is Fing, please don't be so ignorant in the future tongue.gif

Aye, MJ get his pic back up.

The boys are just having a few days study leave and a wee makeover. They'll be back soon!
mortonjag 2008-07-13 21:22:49
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jul 13 2008, 08:18 PM) [snapback]476735[/snapback]
Ok, thanks for letting em know. I had to put my old PC back on as the one I bought from you wont start up anymore, I probably broke it.
I'll miss our chats
missing you already. NOT
I never speak to you on there anyhow
fine
dont know, it's not a priority. When you goannie get me those photo's ?
aye we went camping to Balmaha and to a Thai garden party at Loch Earnhead
That's correct, that's for letting them know.

Hi WDE-did you get my reply to your p.m.?
mortonjag 2008-07-13 21:29:52
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 13 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]476606[/snapback]
My last visitor was the Jag himself wub.gif

I only visit class profiles! wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-13 21:33:33
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 13 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]476602[/snapback]
When I was a lot younger I told that joke to my Mum.

After it she explained that the reason she had to take tablets every day was because she was an epileptic.

How did one feel after that one blush.gif

If your sense of humour's hereditary she should have been convulsed with laughter! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-13 21:38:04
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 13 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]476594[/snapback]
Yes but what age weer you then MJ??????

repeated ps. bring back the monkey photo! smile.gif

89

QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 13 2008, 08:03 PM) [snapback]476724[/snapback]
so she's not anymore? i take it her name was lady and she likes long walks in the park, when you rub her tummy and likes to sleep at the bottom of your bed?

Don't be jealous-and in case you're scared of rabies, I always wash my knob before we meet.
mortonjag 2008-07-13 21:48:58 Hey guys-I've been enjoying reading all those gratuitous violent neddery stories! laugh.gif

The one thing that sticks out a mile is that there was a 'togetherness' among the fans. Has that now disappeared from all Scottish football clubs, or is there something intrinsically fragmenting about the current set up at Cappielow?
mortonjag 2008-07-13 21:52:04
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 13 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]476770[/snapback]
why are you sticking up for someone who needs 10 chances to score 1 and doesn't know the offside rule? Templeman was a regular scorer at 2nd division level before he came to us, and got a few for us in our last year there. He would never be a regular goalscorer in the 1st division, and neither will Russell.

I do think Russell adds something to our team, but its definetely not goals.

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Mortonjag has been doubted and abused many times before! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-13 21:57:35
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 13 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]476767[/snapback]
That's opinion, son. Even you should know that. wink.gif

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It is a fact. Facts do exist, and Mortonjag is careful to differentiate between fact and opinion.

Anyone who could differentiate between the two yesterday on the standard of play, would be described as fanciful rather than neutral. FACT. angel.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-13 22:01:54 I thought wee Shields was well worth his place in Division 2. It's funny how you sense the discrimination about his height-ironic almost! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-13 22:04:59
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jul 13 2008, 09:24 PM) [snapback]476779[/snapback]
Hello MJ, I did thanks, I've just returned from a short break tonight and will reply to your reply in the morning, at which point I hope you will reply to my reply of your reply.

TY!
mortonjag 2008-07-13 22:17:26
QUOTE(james-m-1874 @ Jul 13 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]476838[/snapback]
i'm just stating this as from the recent signings thats all ...

I wasn't aiming anything at you. Shields was regularly pilloried by a number of our fans because of his lack of inches, rather than ability. The wee guy had baws and was far from useless, but was another who had to conform to JM's bizarre game plans.
mortonjag 2008-07-13 22:24:05
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 13 2008, 10:02 PM) [snapback]476831[/snapback]
I don't remember seeing their request sheet posted on the board.

Personally I blame the parents rolleyes.gif



They are usually too embarrassed to post because folk don't understand their spelling and grammar.

Here's an example from the Monkey.


Eye fink wylymanne izza pufe.
mortonjag 2008-07-13 22:27:49
QUOTE(Roger Mellie @ Jul 13 2008, 09:52 PM) [snapback]476814[/snapback]
Rumour has it Mortonjag that in the 80's the only name you answered to in the Shed was "The General".

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Aye-well I think he should get the lads together again and sort out the general mess that's been created by our 'Commander in Chief'. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-13 22:31:02
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jul 13 2008, 09:52 PM) [snapback]476816[/snapback]
Maybe, but only if he wants to take out Lynedoch Street.

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My Uncle Jimmy used to stack up his coal lorry at Lynedoch Street.
mortonjag 2008-07-13 22:33:28
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 13 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]476853[/snapback]
LOL!!! I actually spat my wine, er sorry, beer out there!
Anyway, it's 9 years older and 6 years younger for me. Not too shabby. I'd like to improve upon this.

Mortonjag awaits your pleasure young man.
mortonjag 2008-07-13 22:38:00
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 13 2008, 10:28 PM) [snapback]476860[/snapback]
God knows where you find the obscurist of videos but hey you do.

TBH I thought at 1st it was a link to....
http://www.greenockmorton.org/forum/index....showtopic=21771

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I waited for ages for that download 'cos I was expecting the good one where the jobby looks like Jamaican ginger ice cream from St Andrews and they put it in the glass and eat it.
mortonjag 2008-07-13 22:43:46
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 13 2008, 10:36 PM) [snapback]476869[/snapback]
Did you get the appropriate counselling unsure.gif

......or did your Daddy insist on meeting him to sort it out face to face?
mortonjag 2008-07-13 22:55:08
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 13 2008, 10:42 PM) [snapback]476875[/snapback]
Well actually she did so I filled the bath with water........... tongue.gif

That was a fitting response.
mortonjag 2008-07-13 22:59:35
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 13 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]476881[/snapback]
Yum, yum.
PS: shouldn't you be tucking the monkey's up unsure.gif

They're sleeping with their Mum tonight! blush.gif

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 13 2008, 10:53 PM) [snapback]476886[/snapback]
I remember after being hospitalised when 16 after bursting my knee (not the medical term) I went 4 days without a s***e.

When I finally relieved myself it felt like I was giving birth to a cross-bread pineapple/hedgehog thing. But once started there was no way this badboy could be pinched...it had to come out in the one go.

Afterwards I felt fan-f***ing-tastic!

It takes real courage to have a J Arthur in front of all those young nurses.
mortonjag 2008-07-13 23:03:46
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 13 2008, 10:52 PM) [snapback]476885[/snapback]
Opinions matter, accents, like skin colour, only annoy fascists. mad.gif

When I hear a North Wales accent it reminds me of the birch.
mortonjag 2008-07-13 23:06:19
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 13 2008, 11:02 PM) [snapback]476894[/snapback]
Sorry Doc but your hole's been plundered that much by the yoof on here that I'd end up with at leat one STD.

I shall perform a knob job instead if you prefer.
mortonjag 2008-07-13 23:08:12
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 13 2008, 11:01 PM) [snapback]476893[/snapback]
Doea anyone else love hangover s***s? Mine are always well constructed torpedos that slide out easy. Sweet.

Talking of hangovers-why do they make you randy?
mortonjag 2008-07-13 23:10:15
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 13 2008, 11:07 PM) [snapback]476901[/snapback]
What the f*** is a "knob job"? Is that 1952 speak for BJ? You dirty old quack you.

A semen supper young man-and I've just had my new dentures fitted BTW.
mortonjag 2008-07-14 08:27:35
QUOTE(james-m-1874 @ Jul 13 2008, 10:37 PM) [snapback]476871[/snapback]
Deego I'm askin for peoples opinion on jay thats all ...im not askin for a argument

And for it being a stupit thread your replyin quite a bit ....maybe you should leave then

I'l give you a serious reply son-since Kev Finlayson is a useless winger and we no longer need him in midfield, I'd rather have a player who could put in a decent shift at right back.
mortonjag 2008-07-14 08:37:56
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 14 2008, 12:29 AM) [snapback]476952[/snapback]
Here, not to change the subject, but I pass you in the motor all the time and ye dingy me. Dingy! Up yours! Unless it isnae you in which case I apologise.

Don't try to get that c*nt into self awareness-he ain't up to it.
mortonjag 2008-07-14 08:54:21 Pastille Day, the Inverclyde local holiday, commemorates the storming of the Pastille, which took place on 14 July 2008 and marked the beginning of the Ton Revolution. The Pastille was a Fudge Factory and a symbol of the absolute and arbitrary power of Shoogly the 1st's regime. By capturing this symbol, the people signalled that the Chairman's power was no longer absolute: power should be based on the people.


Symbolic of the tyranny was the famous quote attributed to Shoogly 1sts French born wife Marie Antoinette, (or 'HUR' as she was known in the Pastille) when told the fans were hungry for goals.

'Qu'ils mangent de la brioche'--then may they eat bread! happy.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 09:11:16
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 14 2008, 12:05 AM) [snapback]476931[/snapback]
There's a lot of whoopee doo noises coming from the flat above.

The girl is single and from the Port, so it explains it all ohmy.gif
She's not long moved in and I have seen several unfamiliar male faces pass me in the close when going to work in the mornings.

Although I've never heard her at it in the past I can assure LCM that I now have his old neighbour laugh.gif

Aye very good Willy Man-you knew all along and waited till the poor c*nt put his hoose up for sale on medical advice.


Vibration White Finger (VWF), commonly known as Hand Arm Vibration Symdrome (HAVS) is a recognised condition caused by exposure to hand transmitted vibration, associated with the use of vibrating tools and causing a restriction in the blood supply to the arms or hands


mortonjag 2008-07-14 09:27:38
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 14 2008, 05:17 AM) [snapback]476970[/snapback]
a hollywood s***e is one that wipes its feet before entering the world. identifiable by a virginal piece of 2-ply after the wipe.

there are few better feelings than having a hollywood jobby. the initial dawning realisation that your arse feels pretty good is followed by elation on seeing the unsoiled andrex - your bangle feels refreshed and you exit the cludgie with a real spring in your step.

unfortunately they are quite rare. i read a paper in nature not long ago that postulated their ratio to wipers, smudgers and smearers as about 1:250.

That's probably quite accurate. The secret of a true Hollywood s***e is in the diet. Anyone seriously interested, log on to shineonmyshyte.com., for free advice and a diet sheet costing £10.
mortonjag 2008-07-14 09:34:15 Alistair Trumpet outed as Sean D******y laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 09:36:17
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 14 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]476982[/snapback]
Maybe Mortonjag's younger brother didn't receive any communication from the trust to inform him of when and where the AGM was.

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Indeed MidTONs-this new thread has many possiblities-I can feel a twenty pager 2000 plus views coming on.

I will, however, await Sean's considered response. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 09:43:49
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 14 2008, 08:30 AM) [snapback]476973[/snapback]
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The boys are just having a few days study leave and a wee makeover. They'll be back soon!
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thanks I thought we had lost them forever! smile.gif

If you promise to keep this VERY quiet-I'll tell you the real reason. They're off getting their graduation photographs taken. I don't want to say more right now, but they've done really well at a PROPER University.
mortonjag 2008-07-14 09:47:17
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 14 2008, 08:56 AM) [snapback]476977[/snapback]
how do u know what i'm upto u creepy old sack?

Someone who freely discusses his defaecatory habits on a pubic massage board is singularly unaware of himself.

I'd never mention my occasional blue and white motion to a living soul.
mortonjag 2008-07-14 09:52:23
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jul 14 2008, 09:47 AM) [snapback]476991[/snapback]
Just back from holiday. Can someone give me a brief update on who we have signed? - who is this guy Newby? Who are the three black players mentioned in reports? Seems like a lot has been happening while I've been away.

Jonaton's yer man for the fine detail. Nothing much has really changed but Google Jon Newby-we HAVE signed him.

PS Bawheid shot himself after being outed as a POUFFE, and wee Nickerless is our new First Ministress.
mortonjag 2008-07-14 09:57:29
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 14 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]476995[/snapback]
I cannot believe me you did that. That's the last time I tell you say anything to you via MSN if you are going to steal it and use it for your own posts. mad.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-14 10:53:43
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 14 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]476999[/snapback]
Just as i said MJ, I thougt I would have seen your Bro there with planty of questions.

PS, is Midtons blowing you off rolleyes.gif f?

To answer your second comment firstly, Jim and I have no intention of publicising details of our relationship.

Now-to your first. unsure.gif

I have four brothers (rubber had not been discovered when my parents were married), and they are all Morton supporters. I know for a fact that one of them is a Trust member-the other three may be too!

One of them is 'out of the country' at the moment, one is in London, and the other two live in Inverclyde/Cowal.

I'm afraid you'll have to specify which brother you were looking for at the AGM before I can respond in any more detail. blush.gif

QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 14 2008, 10:07 AM) [snapback]477000[/snapback]
Do I detect a hint of jealousy. wub.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-14 10:58:38
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jul 14 2008, 10:13 AM) [snapback]477001[/snapback]
Good Morning Doctor,

I've written to you now. I await your advice.

Thanks WDE-I'll chew it over and get back to you. I have many people to kill deal with today! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 11:01:40 I just remembered 'Rock cakes'-coconut based with a soft chewy centre and a very hard sweet crust!
mortonjag 2008-07-14 11:04:04 Yer maw's so fat, they'll have to chop her up to bury her.
mortonjag 2008-07-14 11:48:48
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jul 14 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]477014[/snapback]
Shields was pretty useless. Dean Keenan without the skill. Was too slow, had awful control and for his ability for to put a foot in never really done much else. On top of this he was dropped twice for being late was he not and eventually told to get to f*** for his behaviour? McGregor or Walker, f*** even Finlayson, would offer more as a full back and who would he play ahead of in midfield?

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mortonjag 2008-07-14 13:39:21
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 14 2008, 01:03 PM) [snapback]477038[/snapback]
In reply to your first part, there is no need to, Jim was boasting about it at the weekend unsure.gif .

Only one brother is a member cool.gif

AH!

I thought there might be more to this than met the eye. Obviously you've gleaned that information from the secret documents of the very secret society to which you now appear beholden! rolleyes.gif

Ok-and how do you KNOW he wasn't at yesterday's well publicised AGM of the said secret society? bag.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 13:54:36
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 14 2008, 01:33 PM) [snapback]477051[/snapback]
As this affects me I thought I’d comment on this change, having been given a run through on the legislation legally they haven’t done anything wrong in fact it removes any questions folk have about it being free. However the questions midtons raised may be felt by a few. The cost may be a bit much for some, and there might be issues raised by some of it going from being free to the figure quoted as being a great hike in price in one go. I will get a season ticket and will simply stop my shirt sponsorship, but I can understand it maybe an issue paying for some.

The amount being charged should also depend on the view and the facilities offered and the view that you get, at grounds/clubs like St Johnstone, Hearts, Dunfermline, Dundee, Dundee United, away bit at Ibrox, behind the goal at the home end of Love St and the upper level at Hampden all have great views and facilities and price should reflect that. We have great facilities but the view is ok but isn’t the best as there are areas of the pitch you can't see and at times its hard to judge where the ball is going.

I think the club feel they have little choice but to implement it, however I can understand if some that helped fundraise feel disappointed.

It's a shame that you've been forced to do that. Do you think the new measures will make the disabled fans feel more wanted by 'the club'?
mortonjag 2008-07-14 14:01:40
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jul 14 2008, 01:16 PM) [snapback]477042[/snapback]
Wasn't at the game, but imo this guy is a knob and would have happilly booed him (and I can't think of anyone who I've booed before).

Read the report in the Hunday Mail at TinthePark, and was pretty raging how he referred to the 'real fans who went week in week out' who cheered him. What a total pr1ck. I was there week in, week out watching a promising youngster whittering away what should have been an SPL career to become a mediocre journey man part timer.

So what he had a good 14 months or something for us... eh that's what we were paying him to do. Interesting how things dried up after he got his new contract etc.

Too busy swanning about Word Up and going for Sun Bed's like a few of his fellow so called professionals of that era.



Most of the real fans were at the game instead of hoping to get their hole at some spaced out pop festival.
mortonjag 2008-07-14 14:06:03
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 14 2008, 01:16 PM) [snapback]477043[/snapback]
His second touch was always a tackle and it wasnt his footballing ability that made him leave, so there is no point discussing it.

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Aye he WAS a vicious wee c*nt PT-coaxed you into his boudoir with promises of 'shag a go go' and booted f*ck oot yer erse the minute ye drapped yer troosers.

That's no reason to decry his footballing ability.
mortonjag 2008-07-14 14:12:49
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 14 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]477056[/snapback]
with me i did it to contribute to the club, so im still contributing but in a different way.

it makes everyone a paying customer so disabled fans have more rights, i dunno if it makes me feel more wanted.

The point in your own case is that you previously contributed to the club by choice. Now your hand has been forced.

I DON'T think all disabled fans should automatically get in to ALL football grounds free of charge.

I DO think the relationship between the current Board at Cappielow, and ordinary Morton fans is atrocious.
mortonjag 2008-07-14 14:21:23
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 14 2008, 12:28 PM) [snapback]477030[/snapback]
The old grannies remedies don't work, get yourself to the hospital for a dose of light treatment, Mortonjag should confirm that this is the best treatment for such a condition.

This thread's a wee bit pointless, simply because psoriasis varies from being a trivial skin condition to a life threatening illness often complicated by severe arthritis.

It's also well documented that what works for one often won't help another.

The only two things I've always found helpful in psoriasis are a healthy, high fibre, almost vegetarian diet (including some 'omega' rich fish) and plenty of sunlight.

mortonjag 2008-07-14 14:27:29
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 14 2008, 02:23 PM) [snapback]477064[/snapback]
i didnt mind him and he was useful to have the first 6 months we were up when we didnt have one person in our squad who wasn't frightened to tackle including our two central defenders who were so low in confidence they were too scared to tackle , but we have plenty of people who can tackle now and he wouldnt get in our team ever. He would have been out the door this summer anyway if his behaviour hadn't got him thrown out earlier.

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Aye-and NO right back.
mortonjag 2008-07-14 15:17:46
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 14 2008, 02:37 PM) [snapback]477066[/snapback]
Cos no-one with a pet monkey turned up...or is that not a family thing? unsure.gif

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Poor show sonny bean-poor show indeed!

Tell the truth now-there were only twenty two folk there and you knew every one personally.

Oh-and the Monkey is my SON.
mortonjag 2008-07-14 15:23:32
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 13 2008, 05:02 PM) [snapback]476673[/snapback]
I hear a rumour that the car park at Cappielow is being pencilled in as the site for the new James Watt College, as part of the regeneration that is going on.


If this is true, what about the plans for a Disabled Ramp? Wouldn't like to think the hard work done by Stuart and the Spinnaker boys, plus all those who donated going to waste



Did you hear the rumour at yesterday's AGM of the Secret Seven?

QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jul 14 2008, 02:41 PM) [snapback]477067[/snapback]
Is that a defo Puggs - because I have heard rumours..... rolleyes.gif

Hey Tailbearer-I thought you might have left the country-you still haven't answered my outstanding question! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 15:26:38
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 14 2008, 02:47 PM) [snapback]477070[/snapback]
we don't play a right back, but we have Walker, Mcgregor and even Weatherson who can play there. We have more cover at right back than we do for most positions.

OR a left back, or a right winger, or a left winger, or a substitute goalie!

I F*CKIN' KNOW PT. Mortonjag's Monkey CAN PLAY THERE too! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 15:28:34
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 14 2008, 02:50 PM) [snapback]477072[/snapback]
mortonjag has MSN and never added me?! sad.gif

What's MSN?
mortonjag 2008-07-14 15:40:04
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 14 2008, 03:24 PM) [snapback]477089[/snapback]
Yep, tried that, and did the same yesterday and ended up with a severe burnt napper laugh.gif although i have been drinking plenty of fuids wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-14 15:44:18 ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 16:05:35 Don't be daft Puggs-we did well to reach the analogue age, and I want the old clock back. They've even had the cheek to slap white paint over the poor wee circle.

Bloody whitewash if you ask me! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 16:08:23
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 14 2008, 03:43 PM) [snapback]477096[/snapback]
Water to be precise rolleyes.gif

Drinking too much water can kill you! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 16:22:46
55 TODAY




Many happy returns of the day!
mortonjag 2008-07-14 16:25:21
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Jul 14 2008, 04:11 PM) [snapback]477103[/snapback]
Pleas do not take this as a dig at the fundraising efforts but it was the clubs responsibility to comply with the DDA not the fans. So the fact that the club have not put anything in to the adaptations is quite frankly a descries.

It is a legal requirement to comply with the DDA so why are Morton reliant on the good will of supporters and now that the work is done cashing in on it.

Shame on you Morton

Agreed.
mortonjag 2008-07-14 17:12:26
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jul 14 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]477112[/snapback]
This may come as a shock MJ but even if I had left the country the internet web thingy still operates overseas... rolleyes.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Oh I know that and the form for Companies House could have been done that way too! laugh.gif

Anyway-is the Pimperenel now on their list, or do I have to go to the bother of checking yet again?
mortonjag 2008-07-14 17:15:07
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 13 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]476790[/snapback]
The question asked was if Fing was going to be back soon from his holidays rolleyes.gif

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Nothing would surprise me less. Do you think the minutes of yesterday's AGM of the Secret Seven will ever posted on our pubic massage board?
mortonjag 2008-07-14 17:18:35
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 14 2008, 04:59 PM) [snapback]477117[/snapback]
This wouldn't have happened if deego was allowed on the new forum. Ah well, BAN HIM!

You have me worried darling-is our little Deeglet posing as a REAL girl? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 17:25:26
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 14 2008, 05:18 PM) [snapback]477127[/snapback]
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What's with the glaicet face SPARROT-I appreciate that in the knife crime rife scheme where you live, decency may be an unknown term, but the concept of streets with 'decent' sides is well recorded in Scottish social history.
mortonjag 2008-07-14 17:42:54
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 14 2008, 05:23 PM) [snapback]477132[/snapback]
Maybe they've sold it to pay for the "renovations" to section B of the stand.

f***ers, making me sit in the s***ey section C, where you have an obscured view of both goals, instead of just the standside/WDE corner flag, despite their being nothing obvious actually being done yet except a section being taped off! dry.gif

That's a joke-there's a bloody bush growing it's way into the corridor-I'm sure the away fans must be highly impressed! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 17:46:04
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jul 14 2008, 05:34 PM) [snapback]477139[/snapback]
This is when it happened.
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That's a picture you eejit.

QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 14 2008, 05:37 PM) [snapback]477142[/snapback]
thats quite obviously Mcguffie!

The one in black?
mortonjag 2008-07-14 17:49:55
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jul 14 2008, 05:16 PM) [snapback]477124[/snapback]
I'd go to the docs and get some cream but there's no NHS in Jersey and it'd cost me £30 just to join up with a GP apparently. f*** that. I'll stick to the vaseline and sunlight until I get home.
I'm on staff canteen food so don't really get to choose what I eat. I know healthy living would be good for it but I'd rather have scabby arms if it means I can enjoy a fag and a pint when I want smile.gif

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Four pints and forty fags and your GP's bill's paid! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 17:59:57
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 14 2008, 05:53 PM) [snapback]477153[/snapback]
Perhaps Mr Mentaljag would care to elaborate as to why his knowledge of the East End from Newlands, Glasgow, is greater than that of mine.

Perhaps little SPARROT will explain why he is-as is his wont-making further inaccurate allegations about an older, more intelligent, vastly more experienced poster who is also a highly qualified DOCTOR. eek.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 18:03:05
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 14 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]477159[/snapback]
Only 'pouffes' go in the stand. Except my dad, he's not a pouffe. I hope.

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Are you suggesting that



SHOOGLY IS A POUFFE?
mortonjag 2008-07-14 18:07:07
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 14 2008, 05:55 PM) [snapback]477157[/snapback]
Thank you.
A while yet on the pension front. happy.gif

Though only 15 years left of the Biblical allotment. unsure.gif

Could you not apply for an extension to the lease-with all those home grown vegetables you'll probably live to be 100.
mortonjag 2008-07-14 18:12:19
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jul 14 2008, 05:53 PM) [snapback]477154[/snapback]
Can you guess who it is yet?

It's Jon Newby ya numpty-though much younger than our Jon Newby! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 18:42:55
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 14 2008, 06:03 PM) [snapback]477162[/snapback]
Why is either age or job relevant?
On you go, give your accurate description of Barnhill Street that contradicts my point of view.
Either that or do us all a favour and shut up for once.

Listen SPARROT my clever little man, Dr Mortonjag has worked professionally in Inverclyde and has probably been in and out of more houses in the 'East end' between midnight and 7 a.m., than you've had hot dinners in your knife crime rife scheme.

THAT's one reason why age and job is entirely relevant. It's also why age and job are relevant to my previous comment about the 'decent' sides of streets.

Would it at all surprise you to know sonny boy, that deputising doctors had an intricate knowledge of the areas they covered, probably matched only by the local Police. It was often easy to predict the 'quality' of a home visit request by an actual close NUMBER in a bloody street.

Furthermore, Dr Mortonjag lived in the East End, as did his parents, in Bawhirley Road, as did his Uncle Jimmy in Belville St., and his Auntie Jean in Kilmacolm Road.

Oh, and in case you'd forgotten-Dr Mortonjag supports a football team who play in the East end too!

I know the East End of Greenock far better than I know Newlands my child. laugh.gif


mortonjag 2008-07-14 18:48:15
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 14 2008, 06:14 PM) [snapback]477171[/snapback]
How do you know what he was trying to do? You really should stop stalking him old yin.

Less of the 'old yin', son! laugh.gif

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 14 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]477177[/snapback]
That's a pretty warped view.

What would you know about it my child. You're not even old enough to join the Jessie Boys let alone pontificate about anything remotely serious. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 18:52:28
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 14 2008, 06:12 PM) [snapback]477168[/snapback]
The two of the weans who are quacks assure me that my alcohol consumption makes that damnably unlikely. happy.gif

Have they also asked you to change your will? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 19:04:04
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 14 2008, 06:52 PM) [snapback]477184[/snapback]
So this gives 2008 Barnhill Street a decent side how?
Now I'd like to think that an established professional like a doctor wouldn't judge a book by its cover, but its clear that you are prone to prejudging people in need.
No worries - we're all human.



I'm not conscious of having attributed a decent, or indecent side to Barnhill St-past or present SPARROT.

Perhaps you'd like to dig yourself another little hole by elaborating on your comment about 'prejudging people in need'. There again PLEASE don't-you're becoming a tiresome little turd.

One thing's absolutely set in stone, cast iron, and irrefutably dead certain.

You are an uninformed child with a hugely inflated opinion of yourself, your intelligence, and your worldly knowledge.

Now be off with you-is that not Mummy saying your hot water bottle's in your cot, and she's ready to read you another big story?
mortonjag 2008-07-15 06:11:02
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 14 2008, 07:53 PM) [snapback]477231[/snapback]
laugh.gif Oops..

laugh.gif Fing may have been at the Secret Seven's AGM-he's away graduating at the moment so I'm not sure-he does much of the undercover work.

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 14 2008, 11:36 PM) [snapback]477382[/snapback]
What's he doing time for?

No, no Mr Edwards-he's 'out of the country'-honestly-it's not ALWAYS an excuse for incompetence/intrigue! dry.gif

QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jul 15 2008, 01:30 AM) [snapback]477400[/snapback]
BTW MJ isn't my brother. I'm just 'out of the country'. I assure you all it's coincidence.

Jersey jail! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-15 06:14:54
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 14 2008, 07:07 PM) [snapback]477194[/snapback]
Bit rich coming from you.
Add x amount of years to that and we have ourselves your epitaph.
c***.

My epitaph is chosen son, and it reads-

'I enjoyed screwing weans' smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-15 06:23:45
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 14 2008, 07:48 PM) [snapback]477230[/snapback]
No, what I heard there I cannot discuss on here rolleyes.gif

I know that-I've been told off several times before for typing the words-THE TRUST dry.gif


What happened to all the crap that was being talked by your committee colleagues about relishing the publicity that 'Keeping track of the money' brought.

You've got your own wee sub-forum and it's used as much as a centenarian's erection.

To me the trust seems FAR more intent on protecting its own wee comfort zone than attracting new members. In that sense it has apparently lost its way completely. mad.gif

mortonjag 2008-07-15 06:31:03
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 14 2008, 06:56 PM) [snapback]477188[/snapback]
Could there have been another murder and it's taped off as it's actually a crime scene unsure.gif

Is Alistair Donald's body buried under the seats laugh.gif

There was definitely a funny smell coming from the region of the Chairman's Office on Saturday, and I thought Shoogly looked more shifty than usual.

I'll check again tonight-they've has tons of time to dispose of the body, but knowing the set up, they'll probably just let it rot.
mortonjag 2008-07-15 06:42:05
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 14 2008, 06:54 PM) [snapback]477187[/snapback]
And he's back with the classic "you're not old enough to disagree with me" line.
Bravo: when all else fails you have that one on stand-by.

Do you ever feel you're talking to yourself SPARROT. Does it never occur to you that you annoy your peers FAR more than you amuse Mortonjag?

Care to share the bedtime story Mummy read to you last night. I love 'Goldilocks and the Three Bears'-especially the bit when they come back and catch her-my heart still goes like the clappers every time my Mum reads that bit. Maybe your Mum's more into reading Tolstoy though! nerd.gif

QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 14 2008, 07:38 PM) [snapback]477219[/snapback]
You know why? I do, cause you know I right, the only more satisfying thing on Saturday would have been if Dean Keenan bagged a goal as well, what I should have did was went it the away turnstile and gave my money to Ayr Utd, £8 and £4 for what Davie Irons said he was not bothered about as its just about getting the boys fit, in other words imo it was a training session and fans were taken to the cleaners with those prices.

Davie Irons was perfectly entitled to treat it as a training session. I paid £1 for the programme in which Mr Rae promised a 'stirring encounter' for which HE charged £8.

Mr Rae has made little mistakes before.
mortonjag 2008-07-15 06:59:43 It's perfectly obvious what's wrong and why.

If this had happened, for example, at Palmerston, nobody would have batted an eyelid. The fans there see their Mr Rae as an asset and not a millstone.
mortonjag 2008-07-15 07:02:08
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 15 2008, 06:42 AM) [snapback]477406[/snapback]
I will not bite, I will nor bite, I will not bite, I will not bite, I will not bite, I will not bite, I will not bite. jerry.gif

I see you're well in with the cosy brigade already Sean.

That's pretty sad.

You see, this is the sort of thing which tends to happen when folk make side swipes at Mortonjag about 'non attendance' at functions.

You might be surprised to hear that I had several p.m.'s during the 'Question for the Trust' thread from members past and present who think the thing's a bloody shambles.
mortonjag 2008-07-15 07:12:03
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 14 2008, 07:28 PM) [snapback]477207[/snapback]
I thought a hardon was a tough Aberdeen supporter.... rolleyes.gif

Nope-that's somebody who shags horny old rams without a condom.
mortonjag 2008-07-15 07:16:22
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 14 2008, 07:42 PM) [snapback]477225[/snapback]
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Has to be MJ then. I trust them the least, yet keep coming back for more pain and heartache.

I much prefer tall weedy looking young men to daft wee lassies with big blue eyes. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-15 07:20:16
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 14 2008, 07:32 PM) [snapback]477213[/snapback]
Rub a caul Cappielow pie on it, that will cure it.

Psoriasis Spurtle-not sore arse-do keep up! ph34r.gif
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jul 14 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]477324[/snapback]
Wow there's a lot of you with psoriasis on here ......................... maybe we fellow fans could do something to raise money ......... eh scratch cards or something unsure.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-15 07:23:49
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 15 2008, 12:43 AM) [snapback]477397[/snapback]
Latest odds:

MJ evens
se65an 3/1
port-ton 5/2
Boozehound 7/2
DongaTon 10/1

MJ surges into the lead due to the fussily shoehorned word-play of "flaps" and the bright blue signature text, while similarities to se65an's writing style puts him in rather distant second place. port-ton seems ripe for an alias and is a decent outside bet, while Boozehound, although far capable of better, may just be bored enough to partake. Perennial alias-crafter DongaTon brings up the rear.

WOOD EYE

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mortonjag 2008-07-15 07:30:38
QUOTE(rawheed rex @ Jul 14 2008, 11:33 PM) [snapback]477381[/snapback]
forget the hollywood the most satisfying is when you survive the test. the KING KONG FINGER the daddy of all hegehogs. whipe the swet from your brow think youv been fisted and went 10 rounds with will young . but when its oot ahh nervana. or so i hear mine draps out in a velvet coat blush.gif

STOP IT-Port ton will get jealous.
mortonjag 2008-07-15 07:37:51
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 15 2008, 12:21 AM) [snapback]477394[/snapback]
Who can play both sides as well.

I think Irons might sign him because of his versatility.

I shudder when I hear that-it STINKS of compromise.

Sadly I agree with you-'small squad of QUALITY players'!


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mortonjag 2008-07-15 09:03:51
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 15 2008, 07:43 AM) [snapback]477418[/snapback]
Its not sad MJ, am no spoke's person for the trust.

MJ, if ever I meet you in person, I would be more than glad to sit down and discuss, as I have strong views on the trust as well, but am prone to not being the best at putting my point across on an open forum correctly.



Sean-so far as I can see it, the Trust IS still perceived as the fans representative.

Unless the Trust endeavours to genuinely involve as many fans as possible, I believe it will fold in the near future-certainly in its present form. The fundraising could easily be done far more efficiently instead of folk automatically leaving it to their 'representative'!

I find it ludicrous in the extreme that a few blinkered and self indulgent folk can pontificate from their protected comfort zone, when they don't dare to ask Rae for the time of day.

The Trust is a bulldog with no teeth, whose snarling becomes less menacing by the minute.

It's long past time for folk to either stand up and be counted or to pass the task on to others who ARE interested in the general good of the support rather than just wanting a wee status badge.

mortonjag 2008-07-15 09:25:36
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 15 2008, 09:10 AM) [snapback]477429[/snapback]
That maybe the case Spot Ton but at least I don't have a complex about it.

Measles only ever emerges from his kennel when the Trust/club is in question!

Gutless anonymities sicken me.
mortonjag 2008-07-15 09:49:16
QUOTE(Laura_w @ Jul 15 2008, 08:49 AM) [snapback]477425[/snapback]
ditto was covered in the stuff from head to toe until i went on it and now it only tend to flare up once a month but never as bad as before was totally worth it in the long run.

Laura, I guess your psoriasis must be pretty nasty at times.

Methotrexate is not a drug to be messed about with, and is contraindicated for the majority of psoriasis patients.
mortonjag 2008-07-15 09:53:44 I don't see the problem. In support of multiculturalism they could barbecue the old bitch for a week on a giant funeral pyre in Trafalgar square, and charge a whacking entrance fee for 'sightseers'.

It would be a nice wee boost to the economy.
mortonjag 2008-07-15 10:34:58
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 15 2008, 10:12 AM) [snapback]477443[/snapback]
As nice a flat as it is, I think I'd rather invest my £218k in a five bedroomed detached house with double garage and private gardens in Inverkip. Just feels like a better deal. Or it would if I had £218k handy.

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You can't even park a Smart car in that street without it being scraped, but folk buy those grossly over priced tenements because it's the pretentious West End. Not quite archetypal of the Manky Dog we've all come to love! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-15 12:07:19
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jul 15 2008, 11:16 AM) [snapback]477456[/snapback]
Indeed,
It was decided that at the time it would not be reasonably practicable to achieve the 1 in 20 disabled spaces provision as required through the Safety at Sports Grounds Legislation.
The Local Authority agreed with the Club at the time that in the event of future development at Cappielow, the full extents of the legislation for disabled access/accommodation would have to be complied with.

It is my personal opinion that if the existing disabled section were to be managed properly there would be ample space for those who need it.
I would also suggest a boot in the disabled baws to a certain arrogant/ignorant individual who dishes out dogs abuse to anyone who may take up 'his space', which is actually the access egress point for all users.
Brian, I'm sure you would have if you could have on Saturday, unfortunately if I'd done it on your behalf you'd be tannoying... wink.gif

That's surely cruelty to animals! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-15 12:15:05
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 15 2008, 11:37 AM) [snapback]477461[/snapback]
You've only used that analogy several hundred times in the last week.
It appears your record is nothing other than stuck.
Peers? I guess I'd better go back and ask the nursery class then.
c***.

Excellent idea my little SPARROT and you could impress them with this quotation from Alexander Pope-


'The bookful blockhead, ignorantly read
With loads of learned lumber in his head'.

Mortonjag can't be arsed reading books-he writes them. smartass.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-15 12:17:53
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 15 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]477470[/snapback]
You don't want to be making a habit of that around Cappielow. laugh.gif

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2008-07-15 12:24:41
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jul 15 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]477458[/snapback]
I think its more an attempt to try and stay in power. But, whatever it just plays into the whole grief tourism thing that I find unpleasant.
It is interesting. The line from Thatcher to Salmond is pretty straight.

Bawheid is but Maggie in a kilt.
mortonjag 2008-07-15 12:29:30
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 14 2008, 06:44 PM) [snapback]477180[/snapback]
No I think they'll appear on the GMST website.

Here was me thinking you were intelligent blush.gif

I didn't know they had one-is everybody allowed to read it?

I heard the AGM was a cracking success. The turnout was so large folk had to be refused entry.
mortonjag 2008-07-15 12:33:27
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 15 2008, 12:19 PM) [snapback]477477[/snapback]
You're still a c***.

Don't let your little friends discover you can't spell big words SPARROT! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-15 12:36:53
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jul 14 2008, 07:31 PM) [snapback]477211[/snapback]
Full strips mate, sponsored by Grangemouths' no1 Plumbing firm. rolleyes.gif



'U-benders'?
mortonjag 2008-07-15 12:40:10
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 15 2008, 12:36 PM) [snapback]477494[/snapback]
Mortonjag's a c***.
I'm not feeling the love.

Huffy little boy today SPARROT-you keep away from Mortonjag and stick to impressing your peers and the intellectually challenged. wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-15 12:51:30
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 15 2008, 12:41 PM) [snapback]477500[/snapback]
"Don't they hate us when we tell the truth!" indeed.

I know SPARROT , and hatred from little children is surely an indictment of our present society where respect for ones elders and betters is apparently unknown!

Incidentally, I've been dying to ask you this for ages-what do you want to be when you grow up? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-15 12:54:50
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 15 2008, 12:23 PM) [snapback]477481[/snapback]
ohmy.gif I've never had an alias on here and never will, Edinton can back me up im sure. I come on here to talk about Morton and stuff but im more than happy to wind people up using this username, don't need another one. Third favourite indeed sad.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-15 15:17:53
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jul 15 2008, 02:54 PM) [snapback]477594[/snapback]

That's interesting-we don't see that sort of thing up here! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-15 15:28:37
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 15 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]477493[/snapback]
It depends upon what is hidden beneath the asterisks. wink.gif
If you think you're going to drag me down to your banal level of debate then you can think again.
c***.

That's the point SPARROT-all you are capable of is debate-you have NO life experience to draw on and have to sponge/parrot your big books! rolleyes.gif


Banal: commonplace, mundane, everyday-well is that not what a wee footie forum's meant to be about son? Mortonjag feels equally at home in discussion with truly experienced academics.


Anal: pertaining to an arsehole-eminently applicable to jumped up little nobodies who will inevitably have to learn the hard way! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-15 15:39:35 Morton 1-Hartlepool 0


LEAFY

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mortonjag 2008-07-15 15:42:26
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 15 2008, 03:38 PM) [snapback]477623[/snapback]
not like you to draw things out and say more than you really need to, surely two are out of the country would have been more than enough information? tongue.gif



London is in Great Britain, and the other one's back home-we're going to the training session together tonight!
mortonjag 2008-07-15 15:49:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 15 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]477514[/snapback]
Elder certainly, although I don't see a rather spiteful man who has serious psychological issues around monkeys, fudgy wudgys and little pink botties as necessarily being my better.
What's the standard answer? I want to be a footballer. wub.gif

Hmm- this 'rather spiteful old man' is better qualified in psychological profiling than sad little SPARROTS who deserve a good tanning of their little pink botties, and secretly want to be loved like a Honey Monster.

QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 15 2008, 01:35 PM) [snapback]477519[/snapback]
i'm glad i could do my little bit to bring everyone even closer smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-15 15:53:33
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jul 15 2008, 02:08 PM) [snapback]477553[/snapback]
Point being I can't get to the docs so need stuff I can buy from boots or some more of the old wives tale kinda s***

Buy diprobase ointment-apply and leave on overnight. Apply hydrocortisone ointment a couple of times during the day.The strongest you'll get over the counter is probably 1%.

That'll be £27.50!
mortonjag 2008-07-15 16:02:28
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 15 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]477532[/snapback]
Deego has been on mine AGAIN, the dirty wee rat! sad.gif

...and you'll NEVER guess who's been keeking at MJ's bird!!! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-15 16:04:22
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 15 2008, 03:44 PM) [snapback]477627[/snapback]
biggrin.gif £4 for a training session isn't so bad.

Sometimes you are very impertinent.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 07:16:54
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 15 2008, 04:07 PM) [snapback]477639[/snapback]
i'll have you know i have no problem getting an erection thanks very much.

That's impertinence.

QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 15 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]477647[/snapback]
Trick! If we napalm Cappielow tonight we can get two of 'em!

Over and out.

Missed again! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 07:19:10
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 15 2008, 05:07 PM) [snapback]477673[/snapback]
As I understand it, the work is taking place under Section B. rolleyes.gif

How long does it take to bury a dead businessman?
mortonjag 2008-07-16 07:29:29
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 15 2008, 04:09 PM) [snapback]477640[/snapback]
I would hope that's so but I doubt if we will be so much on top for him to get the 10 or so chances he'll need to convert one. rolleyes.gif

HA-he didn't get ANY chances last night depite being on for half an hour-such is the direness of the supply. He did produce one of the most exciting moments in the game working his way into the box from the right bye line and producing a text book cut back!

C'mon LEAFY


I think you've just resolved the nickname issue for beany /leafy/whatever. For me he's now .......................

William G LEAFY Stewart

Very distinguished Cloth Ears! laugh.gif

Oh and one in sixteen's better than none.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 07:39:11
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 15 2008, 11:36 PM) [snapback]478019[/snapback]
try again

Maybe the Honey Monster isn't into jousting with other children.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 07:50:23
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 15 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]477831[/snapback]

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QUOTE(rawheed rex @ Jul 15 2008, 09:47 PM) [snapback]477871[/snapback]
i have seen hartlepool play 4 times at vic park last season and ithink some are being kind to them regards their level. imo

They were certainly no great shakes last night!

QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 15 2008, 10:12 PM) [snapback]477902[/snapback]
is he a striker?

No Alistair, he's a right back.

QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jul 15 2008, 10:24 PM) [snapback]477922[/snapback]
Big Anton Ferdinand was solid at centre half, our best player IMO. I thought Alan Reid looked good at right back, then got a little lost at centre mid, but would be a good option to have in the squad. Arbuckle's pace looked good, and wasn't afraid to take defenders on. The little number 19 (Rashid Kamara?) looked skillful but lightweight.

Good workout tonight, but I am a little concerned at the lack of mobility in the middle of the park. That could be a big factor against us in the coming season.

Was also like spot the celeb in my section, with James Grady, Julie Fleeting and Andy Ritchie and MORTONJAG all within 5 rows of each other tongue.gif


I said to wee Grady near the end-what do you think of our prospects? He smiled a wee wicked smile and replied-'See if I was on the wing-ye'd score a barrowload'. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 07:54:56 If he was trying to impress he didn't. After one superb penetrating run through from midfield he did SFA.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 08:05:19 This may describe a separate incident, but as Mortonjag and his brother went up Sinclair St. towards Weir St immediately after the game, they obseved a running battle involving some ten to fifteen youths, coming down from the row of shops opposite Weir St..

Most were armed with full or almost full Irn Bru bottles, several of which were thrown at others-or just indiscriminately. One young gentleman was carrying a crowbar-FACT. No baseball bats were seen and definitely all accents sounded very local!

Twas actually a tad scary, as the wee c*nts all looked spaced oot. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 08:16:52 More manic muppetry from the folk who believed Spoonsy was a right back because JM told him so.

WTF are we trialling ANOTHER central defender-the big guy was quite impressive, but we've STILL no wingers STILL no full backs (WEATHERSON PLEASE NOTE), and ONE goalie who last night looked as nervous as a neurone on speed.

GET IT SORTED DI.

Furthermore the midfield is about as productive as a hysterectomised horse.

GET IT SORTED DI

Time is running out and we're already beginning to look like the 'stodge' team of the division.


Dictionary.com
stodge
2. to trudge: to stodge along through the mire.



(definition inserted for SPARROT'S benefit) cos' he loves his words!
mortonjag 2008-07-16 08:21:16 JESUS F*CK


We've already got two guys who run around in circles all day and produce nothing-we DON'T need another. Midge Millar on form was at least sometimes effective.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 08:34:25
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 16 2008, 08:19 AM) [snapback]478147[/snapback]
MSC thread for this pish!

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mortonjag 2008-07-16 08:40:47
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 15 2008, 03:02 PM) [snapback]477604[/snapback]
that one

What was Mr Donald's reply-it's good to hear he's been attending some general meetings!

Oh and congratulations-six weeks is a mere millisecond in the history of man. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 08:46:36
QUOTE(Mick @ Jul 16 2008, 08:40 AM) [snapback]478155[/snapback]
Hallelujah! Some sense at last.

Good close control, but that was it. First touch was average, and his passing was dreadful.

Disposable Camara.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 08:50:57
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 16 2008, 08:47 AM) [snapback]478159[/snapback]
Mortonjag did you stop off in Port Glasgow to replace the the bottle of Irn Bru you left on the Hartlepool mini bus?

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I WAS, however, accurately describing the incident on Sinclair Street! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 09:04:03 This thread keeps re-appearing and the comments tend simply to be echoes.

The only thing I'm MORE certain about than the effectiveness of birching the little c*nts' pink botties is that ignorant seventeen year old children from knife crime rife schemes should NOT be allowed to read big books.

Youth is INDEED wasted on the young! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 09:11:43
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 15 2008, 11:06 PM) [snapback]477981[/snapback]
When I suffered (and I mean suffered - there was pus oozing out my legs at one point) with eczema in my yoof, I was happy to pay the ridiculous costs for HC cream. Within 3 days I had no symptoms.

Oh, and if ye like a bath try Oilatum.



That's very expensive-it's best just to fling some into a bath full of water!

FAO Jersey Criminals

You can rub Oilatum into your skin and leave it on for about half an hour before gently showering it off.

Not brilliant but should help.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 09:26:38
QUOTE(Mick @ Jul 16 2008, 08:53 AM) [snapback]478162[/snapback]
I didn't / don't disagree with a lot of the PT post. We were just talking about entirely different aspects of the match. Comments re: McGuffie and Colin Stewart are spot on. Just bear in mind, that we have Jenkins to return.

Other than that, there are (predictably, perhaps) a few things that I don't agree with.

Didn't like the look of Peter last night at RB. He looked miles off the pace.

The No19 shouldn't be getting a game for us. See earlier post.

Nothing really came off for Newby and Wake last night. That being said, I thought their centre half (in 1st half especially) had a strong match. Give me those two (or even Newby and Graham) every match, before Russell sets foot on the pitch. He was rank last night.

Finlayson did give us width - already said in an earlier post the conditions didn't help him last night, but I am failing to recall these 'decent balls' you refer to....from memory, the best chance we had, where the 'keeper made a great save, was made by Wake from a Partaluu cross.


That's the sort of comment which allows me to asses my fellow posters!


Would you care to elaborate. Here's how I saw his contribution. On for half an hour, and made one very skilful incisive run into the box, intelligently cutting back a 'textbook' pass. Unfortunately no takers. Worked his baws off as usual, running into space, drawing defenders, and HOPING some eejit would/could have the wit to supply him a decent pass.

I carefully watched the ONE time he was caught offside-wee Camara had the ball in centre midfield-he waits till LEAFY starts his run before releasing a through ball. dry.gif

Anybody remember John Maisano/Alex Williams-we've hardly seen the through ball used properly since.

So quite simply, my friend, he WAS NOT rank, though it's obvious that at the moment he's the 'whipping boy'. Wakey did quite well last night with three good efforts on target. Newbs didn't get much change out of their defence-did nothing more-is HE rank, and young Graham was anonymous during his brief spell-is HE rank- and Stewart had a very unsteady game-is HE rank, and Superkev and Jimbo WERE RANK.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 10:31:50
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 16 2008, 09:33 AM) [snapback]478191[/snapback]
Jim? Surely not! He's an amazing prospect! ohmy.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-16 10:33:37
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 16 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]478188[/snapback]
Grrrr!

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mortonjag 2008-07-16 10:36:57
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 16 2008, 09:19 AM) [snapback]478179[/snapback]
Dr Mentaljag and his brother perchance? laugh.gif

Mortonjag NEVER runs away!
mortonjag 2008-07-16 10:39:29
QUOTE(mortonboi @ Jul 16 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]478200[/snapback]
and plus hartlepool are better than nearly every division 1 team

I just can't understand the point in that comment. Last night was a pre-season warm up and they certainly weren't any better than us. Have you got your bet on for the Championship? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 10:44:33
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 16 2008, 10:38 AM) [snapback]478222[/snapback]
No no, I believe Lens are interested in him

On last night's exposure I can't see him developing into anything great.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 10:48:57
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 16 2008, 09:06 AM) [snapback]478172[/snapback]
If you have been listening to those two haunted hooses then you are wont have a heart beat cos you would have ended it all long before now! tongue.gif 3 days of dreadful tone deaf smile.gif drivel would drive anyone to suicide!

Hoochter choochter-och aye the noo-waggle yer wallies Fran and Anna were superb entertainment!
mortonjag 2008-07-16 10:51:25
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Jul 16 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]478209[/snapback]
I've had Psoraisis since my mid-20s and have been on a wonderful concoction of lotions and potions since then.

Dovonex for the front of my scalp.

Fucibet for the bits round my ears and eyes - this is an active steriod, so I have to use it sparingly.

Exorex for my elbows - this is currently having a "long term manufacturer's issue" (whatever that means - I'm guessing that they've discovered something sinister in it. Another reason is that it comes in a huge bottle which is out of date before I've barely use a tenth of it).

Given the lack of Exorex I'm using a different lotion of my wife's.

I am also on Beconase forever for hayfever and allergies. mellow.gif

See that stuff yer puttin' on yer face.

I'd bin it! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 10:56:04
HOLE


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mortonjag 2008-07-16 10:58:44 c*** a leekie soup!
mortonjag 2008-07-16 11:02:22
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 16 2008, 10:51 AM) [snapback]478235[/snapback]
Yeah. Too many negative comments.

My first camera was a Brownie.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 11:36:26
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Jul 16 2008, 11:10 AM) [snapback]478242[/snapback]
I stood guarding my motor from any stray bottles!! I was ready to leap Wylie'esque to palm any away to safety. laugh.gif
laugh.gif laugh.gif Cappielow - WELCOME TO HELL!! Get the bags of piss out for when the Midden come to town. tongue.gif
So u were the older Gentleman that was throwing the young whipper-snappers about like empty tracksuits then? tongue.gif laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-16 11:42:48
QUOTE(twgp @ Jul 16 2008, 04:13 AM) [snapback]478129[/snapback]
soon as maggie dies theres gunna be a massive working class party. Everyone knows this.

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Care to define this phenomenon? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 13:01:22
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 16 2008, 12:45 PM) [snapback]478291[/snapback]
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yeah, i am in full agreement that Irons needs to focus his attention on attracting a better standard of player.

Rather than JM sitting scratching his aperture.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 13:11:38
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 16 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]478276[/snapback]
No he is not , he has never given anyone a good bloody handbagging! tongue.gif
Izzat rhyming slang? rolleyes.gif

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He likes to ride about on a ropey old scooter.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 13:14:24
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 15 2008, 07:32 PM) [snapback]477736[/snapback]
Also the fact you haven't been posting, under The Honey Monster biggrin.gif , for 6months, which I believe is under consideration.

Today is apparently Honey Monster's Birthday.

Happy Birthday Honey Monster.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 13:18:55
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 16 2008, 01:03 PM) [snapback]478297[/snapback]
MortonJag, your patter is so poor these days, all these puns - you need to add some new material to your Canon.

Away and lie in a darkroom.

I'd enjoy that Leica Nikon my tadger.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 13:27:02 Bramble jelly.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 13:37:45
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 16 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]478281[/snapback]
we sent him a letter waiting on his reply, he was out the country you know rolleyes.gif and recently just recieved it

So you know for a fact that Mr Donald has personally received and intends to reply soon to an enquiry from the Trust regarding his future plans for Morton?
mortonjag 2008-07-16 14:06:29
QUOTE(big blue eyes @ Jul 16 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]478331[/snapback]
I've been bursting to say this all morning-I was just driving away last night, and you'll NEVER guess who walked right past me-JON!

He looked straight at me-I was very embarrassed but he gave me a lovely big smile.

He's just Gorgeous! bouncy.gif
Zoe wub.gif

You young women and your fantasies-I'll bet he's married with half a dozen weans. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 14:10:35
QUOTE(big blue eyes @ Jul 16 2008, 02:08 PM) [snapback]478334[/snapback]
You old men are just cynical and jealous-even if he's married I can still like him-can't I!

Of course you can if that's ALL!
mortonjag 2008-07-16 14:18:03
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 16 2008, 01:54 PM) [snapback]478326[/snapback]

As first described exclusively by Mortonjag! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 14:23:33
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 16 2008, 01:38 PM) [snapback]478317[/snapback]
got to disagree with you there. Milton Friedmans work has had a massive influence on the economic policy of the whole world, and to varying extents you could claim any mainstream western political party to be followers of his theories.

Surely however, the reason that many choose to vote SNP is because they are the only party which stands for independence and is big enough to have any degree of political clout in this country. Therefore, i would suggest that relatively few SNP voters choose who to vote for on the basis of economic policy, with independence instead being the major issue they vote on.

If the SNP had the audacity to have hard nosed lefty economic policies, they would ultuimately be commiting political suicide, so it is understandable why they are following the same economic policies as all the other m\ajor parties. This also gives them a chance of nicking a few swing voters who do vote based on economic policies but who are scunnered with the incumbents.

Take me for example. Iam strongly opposed to the current neo-con / libertarian / friedmanite / thatcherite / whatever you want to call it political trends, and i also support scottish independence. In terms of economic policy, there is very little to choose from between the political parties, unless i want to waste my vote on a party who only have a chance of winning a handful of seats. Therefore i look at other policies, and see that the SNP stand for independence, and hence i vote for them. Does this mean that i am in favour of right wing economic policies? No of course it doesnt.

Politics is all about compromises

edit to add - i think it is outrageous if she is going to get a state funeral. i will have a street party on the day she dies and take great pleasure urinating on her grave

Please save your pish if it's the funeral pyre I suggested!
mortonjag 2008-07-16 14:33:55
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jul 16 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]478319[/snapback]
what f***ing world do you live in ???? I come from an underclass society and live in a housing scheme, and I can tell you I don't belive the carrying of a knife ACCEPTABLE... the ' upper classes' dont f***ing care whats happening to us. thats it, while were watching our youngsters killing each other, then theres no need for them to worry that we'll be watching what THEY are doing to our country.. it would be SO EASY to stop whats happening, by either brining back corpral punishment or giving stiffer jail time.. REAL old fashioned jail time, but as long as it's us 'lower classes' doing it to ourselves and leaving them alone then they dont care, and wont do anything about it... NO EXCUSES...IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE or ACCEPTED... BIRCH THE c***S and/or HARD JAIL and CHAIN GANG PUNISHMENT.

Don't be too hard on my wee SPARROT, 'warrior'. He lives in 'a world of make believe' in the middle of his big books and knife crime rife scheme. rolleyes.gif

He ACTUALLY BELIEVES the keech he scrapes off his paper nappies onto our pubic massage board.

Only days ago he was contradicting ex Mum/Dad/four weans in a room and kitchen tenement, and ex-Bardrainney Mortonjag on the basis of him being some remote upper class fud in Newlands, and quoting some bloody 'expert' who's made a name out of kidding folks on that the birch won't work, when every record ever made indicates it was a SUPERB deterrent-AND it costs very little.

He's more to be pitied than anything.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 14:54:20
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jul 16 2008, 02:27 PM) [snapback]478348[/snapback]
F.A.O. the "nae bus team". Confirmation.

1. Davie McArthur,
2. Shaddypeekey,
3. Port-Ton,
4. IrvineTon,
5. Jester,
6. VikingTon,
7. VaderTon,
8. FlightTon,
9. CentralTon.

That leaves a 10th position to be filled. I know Port and Viking have interested parties waiting to fill the void, but, would you 2 really deny a 14 year old his 15 mins of fame, ya heartless B******s. laugh.gif

Could you 2 pm me and we'll sort something out, Ta.

I'll happily fill Port-ton's void any day and not for the first time. As for SPARROT'S, I can arrange some ready mixed concrete.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 15:02:15
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 16 2008, 02:57 PM) [snapback]478363[/snapback]
There hasn't been trouble like that outside our ground in years, ive been following Morton for 14 years and i never remember something like that although i could just be oblivious. (not an unreasonable assumption tongue.gif). The only problem we have is where our ground is situated, right in the middle of where all the annoying wee neds/chavs stay who either don't go to the games and hang about the ground after them or cant afford to go see Rangers or Celtic so go to Morton games since they live next to the ground.

Hope you enjoyed your trip anyway.

Correct PT-as I said we walked through it at its height when all the bottles were being flung and smashing all over the place. There was no question in our minds that it was one lot of spaced out local neds chasing another. There were no baseball bats or caps, and NO English accents, though one young c*nt DID have a bloody crowbar-and that's effin mental! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 15:06:44
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Jul 16 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]478371[/snapback]
Where I was sitting was in seats usually reserved for Season ticket holders. Who would buy a season ticket for there, I would want a duffed up knee discount! I suppose the view was pretty good though, the only thing spoing it was my knees up to my chin!

Mon the Cooshed!

Has it not occurred to you that most stand users are upper class POUFFES who enjoy having their knobs rammed up the arse of the guy in front?
mortonjag 2008-07-16 15:08:48
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 16 2008, 02:22 PM) [snapback]478342[/snapback]
I know he received it

Any chance the common fans could see a wee copy, or is it CLASSIFIED? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 15:26:04
QUOTE(Kaney @ Jul 16 2008, 03:19 PM) [snapback]478381[/snapback]
Aye. The weans last night were making me cringe. Throwing stuff about, jumping around seats and referring to the coloured #19 as 'chocolate drop' who they bet we found 'lying under a rock in Africa'

Stuff going back to that stand.

It's amazing the imagination weans have.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 15:37:07
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 16 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]478383[/snapback]
once we get a reply both will be put on gmst.org.uk for our members to see with any personal address info removed,

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So anybody is allowed to read this---



Trust Rules PDF Print E-mail
Written by Ryan Deegan
Monday, 04 June 2007

A Microsoft Wordâ„¢ version of this document is available in our Download Centre.
NAME
1. The name of the society is to be Greenock Morton Supporters' Society Limited and it is called "the Society" in the rest of these Rules.

OBJECTS
2. The Society's objects are, either itself or through a subsidiary company or society trading for the benefit of the community and acting under its control:
i. to strengthen the bonds between Greenock Morton Football Club and the local community in Inverclyde and the surrounding area and to represent the interests of the local community in the running of Greenock Morton Football Club.
ii. to benefit present and future members of the community in Inverclyde and the surrounding area by promoting, encouraging and furthering the game of football as a recreational facility, sporting activity and focus for community involvement.
iii. to provide and maintain facilities for the enjoyment of professional football.
iv. to promote coaching schemes to develop the football skills of young people and to widen interest in football regardless of the gender, race, colour or religion of those involved.
POWERS
3. The Society may achieve these objects in whole or in part through an interest or interests in companies or societies provided that the objects of the companies or societies are consistent with the Society's objects. In particular the Society may acquire an interest in Greenock Morton Football Club or any successor company..


4. In order to achieve its objects the Society may either itself or through a subsidiary company or society acting under its control:
a. buy, sell and lease property;
b. borrow;
c. grant security over its property and assets;
d. establish, promote and maintain for the purposes of the Society a loan capital scheme to be known as the Greenock Morton Supporters' Loan Capital Fund open only to members of the Society and any other lawful fund raising scheme.
e. award pensions, allowances, gratuities and bonuses to past and present employees (including their dependants and people connected with them) of:
i. The Society;
ii. any predecessor of the Society; and
iii. any subsidiary company or society of the Society;
f. Set up and maintain itself or with others trusts funds or schemes (whether contributory or non-contributory) intended to provide pension or other benefits for the people referred to in Rule 4(e);
g. so far as permitted by these Rules indemnify or take out and maintain insurance for the benefit of people who are or were:
i. members of the Society Board or the Executive Board; or
ii. officers; or
iii. employees; or
i. trustees of a pension fund
of the Society or any subsidiary company or society of the Society against any liability which they may have as a result of their involvement with the Society or its subsidiaries;
h. so far as permitted by these Rules take out and maintain insurance against any risks to which the Society may be exposed;
i. do anything else which is necessary or expedient to achieve its objects.



5. The business of the Society is to be conducted for the benefit of the community in Inverclyde and the surrounding area and not for the profit of its members.
APPLICATION OF PROFITS
6. The profits or surpluses of the Society are not to be distributed either directly or indirectly in any way whatsoever among members of the Society but shall be applied:
a. to maintain prudent reserves;
b. on expenditure to achieve the Society's objects.


MEMBERSHIP
7. The members of the Society are the people whose names are entered in the register of members.
8. The first members are Stuart Duncan, Jim McColl, Aileen Sellar, Iain McColl, Brian Farren and David Brown.
9. Membership is open to any person firm or corporate body who or which:
a. is a supporter of Greenock Morton Football Club; or
b. has an interest in the game of football in Inverclyde and the surrounding area; and
c. agrees to-be bound by these Rules and Rule 6 in particular.
10. Every member holds one share.
11. The Society Board will decide and issue a form of application for membership. Members are to pay an annual subscription of £10 or such other sum as the Society Board shall decide, the first payment to be made at the time of application for membership. The sum of £1 from the first payment shall be applied to purchase a share in the Society.
12. The Society Board will have power to offer associate or affiliate status with or without payment or subscription to corporate or unincorporated bodies which support the aims of the Society but no-one shall be entitled to vote at any general meeting of the Society who is not the registered holder of a fully paid up share in the Society.
13. A minor not under the age of 16 may be admitted as a member or joint member of the Society but may not be an officer.
14. A corporate body or firm which is a member may by resolution of its governing body appoint any person it thinks fit to be its deputy and revoke such an appointment. A copy of any such resolution signed by two members of the governing body and in the case of a local authority by the authorised officer of the Council shall be sent to the Secretary of the Society. The deputy will be entitled to exercise all rights of membership on behalf of the corporate body including seeking election as an officer and speaking and voting at any general meeting. References in these Rules to a member being present in person include members which are corporate bodies being present through their deputy.
15. No member may hold more than one share either individually or jointly.


SHARES
16. The shares of the Society have the nominal value of £1 each and may not be transferred or withdrawn.
17. If a member ceases to be a member, the share registered in the name of that member is to be cancelled and the amount subscribed for the share is to become the property of the Society.
18. Shares do not carry any right to interest, dividend or bonus.


REMOVAL OF MEMBERS
19. A member shall cease to be a member if they:
a. fail after written demand to pay their annual subscription.
b. die (in the case of the individual).
c. cease to exist (in the case of a body corporate);
d. are the nominee of an unincorporated Society or firm which is wound up or dissolved;
e. are the nominee of an unincorporated organisation or firm which removes or replaces them as its nominee;
f. are not the holder of a fully paid up share
g. are expelled under these Rules; or
h. withdraw from membership by giving at least one month's written notice to the Secretary.
20. A member may be expelled by a resolution carried by the votes of not less than two-thirds of the members present in person or by proxy and voting on a poll at an annual or special general meeting of the Society of which notice has been duly given. The following procedure will be adopted:
a. A complaint must be made that the member has acted in a way detrimental to the interests of the Society.
b. Details of the complaint must be sent to the member in question not less than one calendar month before the meeting with an invitation to answer the complaint and attend the meeting.
c. At the meeting the members will consider evidence in support of the complaint and such evidence as the member may wish to place before them.
d. If the member fails to attend the meeting without due cause the meeting may proceed in their absence.
e. A person expelled from membership will cease to be a member at the expiration of twenty-eight days from the date at which the resolution to expel them is carried.
f. No person who has been expelled from membership is to be re-admitted except by a resolution carried by the votes of two-thirds of the members present in person or by proxy and voting on a poll at any general meeting of which notice has been properly given.
ORGANISATION
21. The powers of the Society are to be exercised by the members, the Society Board and the Executive Board of the Society in the way set out in the Rules which follow.


RIGHTS AND POWERS OF MEMBERS
22. The members have the rights and powers available to them under the law relating to Industrial and Provident Societies and are to decide in particular the issues specifically reserved to them by these Rules.
23. The functions of the annual general meeting shall include:
a. receiving:
i. the revenue account and balance sheet for the previous financial year; and
ii. a report on the Society's performance in the previous year;
b. appointing:
i. financial auditors;
ii. auditors of any other aspect of the performance of the Society.
DUTIES AND POWERS OF SOCIETY BOARD
24. The Society Board is to ensure that the business of the Society is conducted in accordance with these Rules and with the interests of the community, and may appoint and supervise the Chief Executive and the Executive Board.

The Society Board:
a. may exercise all the Society's powers which are not required by these Rules or by statute to be exercised by the Society in general meeting. This power is subject to the provisions of these Rules and to any directions not inconsistent with these Rules made from time to time by the Society by resolution carried by the votes of not less than two-thirds of the members present in person or by proxy and voting on a poll at an annual or special general meeting of the Society of which notice has been duly given. Any person acting in good faith and without prior notice of an irregularity is not to be concerned to see or enquire whether the powers of the Society Board have been restricted by any direction so made;
b. may delegate any of its powers to committees consisting of such of its own number as it thinks fit who shall, in the function entrusted to them, conform in all respects to the instruction given to them by the Society Board. Any such delegation may be made either collaterally with or to the exclusion of the powers of the Society Board and may be revoked or altered. The proceedings of any such committee shall be governed by the rules regulating the proceedings of the Society Board so far as they are capable of applying.
c. may call upon the Chief Executive and/or Secretary to report or procure a report in writing upon any aspect of the affairs of the Society;
d. shall appoint and dismiss the Chief Executive and other members of the Executive Board and the Secretary and decide and fix the terms of their employment and have power to act in place of the Chief Executive or the Executive Board where they cease to act or are unwilling or unable to act;
e. shall approve the policies or strategies to be followed by the Executive Board and all budgets and other financial plans;
f. shall determine from time to time the categories of transaction which require the approval of the Society Board; and
g. shall approve the use of the Society's seal.
DUTIES AND POWERS OF CHIEF EXECUTIVE AND EXECUTIVE BOARD
25. If a Chief Executive is appointed, he or she will, subject to the duties and powers of the Society Board as set out in these Rules, manage the Society's business in accordance with these Rules and will have power to act in the name of the Society.
26. If other members of an Executive Board are appointed they together with the Chief Executive will, subject to the duties and powers of the Society Board as set out in these Rules and to directions as to their responsibilities given by the Society Board, manage the Society's business in accordance with these Rules and will have power to act in the name of the Society.
27. Any person acting in good faith and without prior notice of any irregularity is not to be concerned to see or enquire whether the powers of the Chief Executive or the Executive Board have been properly exercised.


SECRETARY
28. The Society is to have a Secretary whose functions will include;
a. acting as Secretary to the Society Board;
b. attending all meetings of the Executive Board;
c. acting as Secretary of any subsidiary company or society of the Society;
d. summoning and attending all general meetings of the Society and keeping the minutes;
e. keeping the register of members and other registers required to be kept by these Rules;
f. having charge of the seal of the Society;
g. monitoring the conduct of the Society's affairs to ensure that it is conducted in accordance with these Rules;
h. arranging for members of the Society Board to obtain independent legal, accounting tax or other professional advice if he or she considers it appropriate.
i. publishing to members in an appropriate form information which they should have about the affairs of the Society;
j. preparing and sending all returns required to be made to the Registrar.
29. The Secretary shall not be a member of:
a. the Executive Board;
b. any board or committee of management of any subsidiary company or society of the Society.
GENERAL MEETINGS
30. The Society is to hold a general meeting (called the annual general meeting) within six months of the end of each financial year. The first annual general meeting may be called by the Society Board at any time within this period.
31. All general meetings other than annual general meetings are called special general meetings and are to be convened by the Secretary either
a. by order of the Society Board; or
b. if a written requisition signed (except where these Rules say otherwise) by not less than 50 members or 10% of the membership, whichever is the higher, is delivered to the Society's registered address. The requisition must state the purpose for which the meeting is to be convened. If the Secretary is not within the United Kingdom or is unwilling to convene a general meeting any Society Board member may call a general meeting.
32. A special general meeting called in response to a members' requisition must be held within 28 days of the date on which the requisition is delivered to the registered office. The meeting is not to transact any business other than that set out in the requisition and the notice convening the meeting.
33. Notice of a general meeting is to be given in writing at least 14 clear days before the date of the meeting. The notice must:
a. state whether the meeting is an annual or special general meeting;
b. give the time, date and place of the meeting; and
c. indicate the business to be dealt with at the meeting.
34. Any notice to a member may be given either personally or by sending it by post in a prepaid envelope addressed to the member at their registered address or by leaving it at that address. The notice shall be given to all members and to the members of the Society Board and to the auditors. Notices or communications sent by first class post to members at their registered address are deemed to have been duly served 48 hours (excluding Sundays) after being posted. Proof that an envelope containing a notice was properly addressed, prepaid and posted shall be conclusive evidence that the notice was given. The proceedings at a general meeting are not invalid if:
a. there has been an accidental omission to send a notice to a member or members; or
b. the notice is not received by a member or members.
35. A member present either in person or by proxy at any meeting of the Society shall be deemed to have received notice of the meeting and, where requisite, of the purposes for which it was called.
36. Before a general meeting can do business there must be a quorum present. Except where these Rules say otherwise a quorum is 30 members or 10% of the members entitled to vote at the meeting whichever is lower.
37. The Society Board may decide where a general meeting is to be held and may also in the interests of democracy:
a. arrange for the annual general meeting to be held in a different part of Inverclyde or the surrounding area each year,
b. make provision for a general meeting to be held at different venues either simultaneously or at different times. In making such provision the Society Board shall also fix an appropriate quorum for each venue, provided that the aggregate of the quorum requirements shall not be less than the quorum set out in the previous Rule.
38. It is the responsibility of the Society Board, the Chair of the meeting and the Secretary to ensure that at any general meeting:
a. the issues to be decided are clearly explained;
b. sufficient information is provided to members to enable rational discussion to take place;
c. where appropriate, members of the Executive Board, experts in relevant fields or representatives of special interest groups are invited to address the meeting.
39. If the chair of a general meeting or the Secretary considers that steps should be taken to ensure:
a. the safety of people attending a general meeting; or
b. the proper and orderly conduct of the meeting;

they may take whatever steps are necessary to deal with the situation. They may in particular, if they think it necessary:
i. require people to prove their identity;
ii. arrange security searches;
iii. stop certain things being taken into the meeting;
iv. refuse to allow members into the meeting or have members removed from the meeting, where the behaviour of those members is or is likely to be violent or disruptive.
c. where appropriate, members of the Executive Board, experts in relevant fields or representatives of special interest groups are invited to address the meeting.
40. The Chair of the Society Board or in his absence some other Society Board member nominated by the members of the Society Board shall preside at all general meetings of the Society. If neither the Chair nor such other Society Board member is present and willing to act, the Society Board members present shall elect one of their number to be Chair and if there is only one Society Board present and willing to act he or she shall be Chair. If no Society Board member is willing to act as Chair or if no Society Board member is present within fifteen minutes after the time appointed for holding the meeting, the members present and entitled to vote shall choose one of their number to be Chair.
41. If no quorum is present within half an hour of the time fixed for the start of the meeting or if during a meeting such a quorum ceases to be present:
a. if the meeting was convened on a requisition of the members, it is to be dissolved;
b. in any other case the meeting shall stand adjourned to the same day in the next week at the same time and place or to such time and place as the Society Board determine. If a quorum is not present within half an hour of the time fixed for the start of the adjourned meeting, the number of members present is to be a quorum.
42. Subject to these Rules and to any Act of Parliament, a resolution put to the vote at a general meeting shall, except where a poll is demanded or directed, be decided upon by a show of hands.
43. On a show of hands every member present in person, and on a poll every member present in person or by proxy is to have one vote. In the case of an equality of votes the Chair of the meeting is to have a second or casting vote.
44. Unless a poll is demanded, the result of any vote will be declared by the Chair and entered in the minute book. The minute book will be conclusive evidence of the result of the vote.
45. A poll may be directed by the Chair or demanded either before or immediately after a vote by show of hands by not less than one-tenth of the members present at the meeting (in person or by proxy).
46. A poll demanded on the election of a Chair or on a question of adjournment shall be taken forthwith. A poll demanded on any other question shall be taken either forthwith or at such time and place as the Chair directs not being more than thirty days after the poll is demanded.

The demand for a poll shall not prevent the continuance of a meeting for the transaction of any business other than the question on which the poll was demanded. If a poll is demanded before the declaration of the result of a show of hands and the demand is duly withdrawn, the meeting shall continue as if the demand had not been made. The result of the poll will be treated as the resolution of the meeting at which the poll was demanded. No notice need be given of a poll not taken forthwith if the time and place at which it is to be taken are announced at the meeting at which it is demanded. In any other case at least seven clear days' notice shall be given specifying the time and place at which the poll is to be taken.
47. Unless these Rules or an Act of Parliament say otherwise, all resolutions are to be decided by a simple majority of the votes cast.
48. The Chair of any meeting may with the consent of a majority of the members present adjourn the meeting. The following are the arrangements for adjourned meetings:
a. No business is to be transacted at any adjourned meeting other than the business not reached or left unfinished.
b. An adjourned meeting is to be treated as a continuation of the original meeting but any resolution passed at an adjourned meeting is to be treated as having been passed on the date on which it is in fact passed.
c. When a meeting is adjourned for fourteen days or more, at least seven clear days' notice shall be given specifying the time and place of the adjourned meeting and the general nature of the business to be transacted. Otherwise no notice need be given of an adjournment or of the business to be transacted at an adjourned meeting.
49. A proxy is to be appointed as follows:
a. in writing;
b. in any usual form or any other form which the Society Board may approve;
c. under the hand of the appointor or of their attorney duly authorised in writing; and
d. by depositing the appointment document and any authority under which it is executed or a copy of such authority certified notarially or in some other way approved by the Society Board at the registered address of the Society or at such other place within the United Kingdom as is specified in the notice convening the meeting or in any instrument of proxy sent out by the Society in relation to the meeting. Such documents shall be deposited with the Chair or the Secretary or any Society Board member (i) not less than two clear days before the day fixed for the meeting at which the proxy is authorised to vote or (ii) in the case of a poll taken more than 48 hours after it is demanded; not less than 24 hours before the time appointed for the taking of the poll or (iii) where the poll is not taken forthwith but is taken not more than 48 hours after it was demanded; at the meeting at which the poll was demanded.
If this procedure is not followed the appointment of the proxy will be invalid.
50. The following further rules apply to proxies.
a. No person other than the Chair of the meeting can act as proxy for more than 3 members.
b. Any question as to the validity of a proxy is to be determined by the Chair of the meeting whose decision is to be final.
c. A proxy need not be a member of the Society.
51. A vote given or poll demanded by proxy or by the duly authorised deputy of a corporate body, shall be valid notwithstanding the previous determination of the authority of the person voting or demanding a poll unless notice of the determination was received by the Society at the registered office or at such other place at which the instrument of proxy was duly deposited:
i. before the commencement of the meeting or adjourned meeting at which the vote is given or the poll demanded; or
ii. (in the case of a poll taken otherwise than on the same day as the meeting or adjourned meeting) before the time appointed for taking the poll.
52. No objection shall be raised to the qualification of any voter except at the meeting or adjourned meeting at which the vote objected to is tendered. Any objection made in due time about any vote whether tendered personally or by proxy is to be determined by the Chair of the meeting, whose decision is to be final. Every vote not disallowed at the meeting will be valid.


CONSTITUTION OF THE SOCIETY BOARD
53. With effect from the Society's first annual general meeting, the Society Board is to have not less than 6 and not more than 15 members and will be made up as follows:
a. 6 members of the Society Board will be elected by the members in accordance with such arrangements as shall be determined by the Society Board;
b. 3 members of the Society Board will be nominated by contributors to the Greenock Morton Supporters' Loan Capital Fund in accordance with the Rules of the Fund;

Provided always that such nominations will only be valid and accepted by the Society Board where such Fund has received and still holds, after any repayments have been made, a sum of not less that £10,000
c. Not less than 3 and not more than 6 members will be co-opted by the Society Board in accordance with a Board Membership Policy which it will develop and adopt. The purpose of the Board Membership Policy will be to ensure that:
i. the Society Board has the skills and experience which it needs to operate effectively;
ii. the interests of the community served by the Society are adequately represented;
iii. the level of representation of different groups on the Society board strikes an appropriate balance having regard to their legitimate interest in the Society's affairs.

The following people in particular may be co-opted:
1. a representative or representatives of Inverclyde Local Council on behalf of itself and neighbouring local authorities;
2. a representative or representatives of the young;
3. a representative of local business;
4. a representative or representatives of employees of Greenock Morton Football Club;
5. a representative or representatives of the Sports Council and Football in the Community;
6. the representative of the Professional Footballers Association at Greenock Morton Football Club.
54. Until the first annual general meeting the members of the Society Board will be Stuart Duncan, Jim McColl, Aileen Sellar, Iain McColl, Brian Farren and David Brown and such other people as they shall co-opt.
55. Members of the Society Board will normally serve for periods of 3 years in accordance with the Board Membership Policy. Nominated and co-opted Society Board members may be reappointed for a further period subject to these Rules.
56. Members of the Society Board will not receive any payment for serving on the Society Board other than:
a. the payment of expenses incurred in carrying out their duties; and
b. nominal Society Board Fees approved by the members in general meeting.
57. No person can be a member of the Society Board who:
a. has been a member of the Society Board for 12 consecutive years;
b. has been declared bankrupt or compounded with their creditors;
c. is subject to a disqualification order made under the Company Directors Disqualification Act;
d. has been convicted of an indictable offence;
e. is or may on the basis of medical evidence be suffering from mental disorder;
f. fails to abide by any rules for the conduct of elections made by the Society Board 'under Rule 53(a).
58. Any member of the Society Board who:
a. ceases to comply with the criteria set out in these Rules; or
b. ceases to be a member of the Society; or
c. resigns
is to vacate the office of Society Board member.
59. Any member of the Society Board who:
a. fails without good cause to attend 3 consecutive Society Board meetings; or
b. fails without good cause to participate in board training
is to vacate the office of Society Board member if required to do so by a majority of the other Society Board members.
60. At the third and fourth annual general meeting of the Society two of the members of the Society Board first elected by the members (to be chosen by lot) will resign from office. Thereafter the two longest serving members of the Society Board elected by the members who have served the longest at the date of the annual general meeting each year will resign.
61. Casual vacancies arising amongst the members of the Society Board elected by the members will be dealt with as follows.
a. If a vacancy caused by retirement or removal is not filled at the meeting at which they retire or are removed, the vacancy may be filled by the Society Board.
b. A vacancy occurring by death or resignation may be filled by the Society Board.
c. In each case the member appointed to fill the vacancy is to retire at the next annual general meeting and the Society Board will make provision for an election to be held. For the avoidance of doubt the retiring member may stand for re-election at the meeting at which they retire.
62. A Society Board member may be removed from office by a resolution carried by the votes of not less than two-thirds of the members present in person or by proxy and voting on a poll at an annual or special general meeting of the Society of which notice has been duly given. A Society Board member may be suspended from office by a resolution of the other members of the Society Board on the grounds of conduct detrimental to the interests of the Society subject to such Society Board member having been provided with a fair opportunity to be heard. Such suspension shall be for a period not exceeding 4 months.
63. If at any time and for any reason after the first annual general meeting the number of members of the Society Board shall drop below 6 the remaining Society Board members may act but only for the purpose of filling vacancies or calling a general meeting.


SOCIETY BOARD MEETINGS
64. The Society Board will elect a Chair from amongst their number and will meet at least 4 times in every calendar year at such times and places as they think fit. Seven clear days' notice of the date and place of each meeting is to be given in writing by the Secretary to all members of the Society Board to the Chief Executive and to such other members of the Executive Board as the Society Board desire to attend the meeting. 50% of Society Board members including a minimum of 2 members of the Society Board elected by the members and 2 members of the Society Board nominated by the contributors to the Greenock Morton Supporters' Loan Capital Fund or such higher number as the Society Board may determine will form a quorum. A Society Board meeting may be called by shorter notice if it is so agreed by all the Society Board members entitled to attend and vote at the meeting.
65. Unless the Society Board decides otherwise, the Chief Executive is to be invited attend each meeting of the Society Board. Other members of the Executive Board are to attend meetings of the Society Board when requested to do so.
66. Meetings of the Society Board may be called either by the Secretary, or by a notice in writing given to the Secretary by the chair of the Society Board, or by two Society Board members who are not both elected by the members of the Society or both nominated by contributors to the Greenock Morton Supporters' Loan Capital Fund or both co-opted Board members, specifying the business to be discussed. The Secretary is to communicate every such notice to all Society Board members as soon as possible and the meeting is to be held at a venue decided by the Secretary not earlier than seven days and no later than fourteen days after the receipt by the Secretary of the notice. Should the Secretary fail to convene the meeting, the Chair or the two Society Board members who have given the notice in writing may call the meeting. No business is to be done at the meeting other than the business specified in the notice.
67. The Society Board may agree that its members can participate in its meetings by telephone video or computer link. Participation in a meeting in this manner shall be deemed to constitute presence in person at the meeting.
68. The Society Board may appoint specialist advisors to advise on any issue and may invite them to attend and speak (but not vote) at meetings of the Society Board.
69. Questions arising at a Society Board meeting shall be decided by a majority of votes. In case of an equality
70. A resolution in writing signed by all members of the Society Board will have the same effect as a resolution passed at a meeting of the Society Board and may consist of several documents in the like form each signed by one or more Society Board members.
71. Save for the exceptions referred to below, no Society Board member is to have any material financial interest personally or as a member of a firm or company or as a director or other officer of a business trading for profit or in any other way whatsoever in any contract or other transaction with the Society. For the purposes of this rule, an interest of a person who is connected with a Society Board member shall be treated as an interest of the Society Board member. The exceptions are that Society Board members may:
a. buy tickets or season tickets for football matches and use the facilities of any football club in which the Society is interested
b. be paid expenses including travelling expenses;
c. receive Society Board fees;
d. be contributors to the Greenock Morton Supporters' Loan Capital Fund;
e. if they are co-opted members of the Society Board be employees of Greenock Morton Football Club;
f. declare an interest in a particular contract or issue and:
i. not be present except with the permission of the Society Board in any discussion of the contract or issue
ii. not vote on the contract or issue (and if by inadvertence they do remain and vote, their vote is not be counted).
72. Any member of the Society Board who discloses a financial interest as described in the preceding Rule must vacate their office either for a period or permanently if requested so to do by a majority of the remaining members of the Society Board. Any member of the Society Board who fails to disclose any interest required to be disclosed under the preceding Rule must permanently vacate their office if required to do so by a majority of the remaining Society Board members.


COMMITTEES OF THE SOCIETY BOARD
73. The Society Board may delegate any of its powers to committees of the Society Board and in particular may appoint a sealing committee to consider documents submitted by the Executive Board for sealing and if appropriate to seal them.
74. The Society Board will:
a. decide the membership of each committee;
b. appoint the Chair of each committee;
c. lay down the procedure to be adopted by each committee (including the quorum);
d. produce a written record of the scope and authority of each committee.


CONSTITUTION OF THE EXECUTIVE BOARD
75. The Executive Board may have the following members who will be full or part time employees of the Society:
a. a Chief Executive
b. a Finance Director
c. a Human Resources Director
d. such other Executives as the Society Board thinks appropriate.
76. If the Society carries out any part of its business through a trading subsidiary company or society trading for the benefit of the community members of the Executive Board or the Society Board shall be the directors or board of management of the subsidiary.
77. The members of the Executive Board will be appointed by the Society Board on terms agreed and approved by the Society Board. The members of the Executive Board may be removed by the Society Board.
78. No person can be a member of the Executive Board who:
a. has been declared bankrupt or compounded with their creditors;
b. is subject to a disqualification order made under the Company Directors Disqualification Act;
c. has been convicted of an indictable offence;
d. is or may on the basis of medical evidence be suffering from mental disorder.
79. The Executive Board if appointed will meet at least once each month at such times and places as it thinks fit. Where practicable, seven clear days' notice of the date and place of each meeting is to be given in writing by the Secretary to all members of the Executive Board. A resolution in writing signed by all the members of the Executive Board shall be as valid and effectual as if it had been passed at a meeting of the Executive Board duly convened and held and may consist of several documents in the like form each signed by one or more Executive Board members.
80. The Executive Board may agree that its members can participate in its meetings by telephone video or computer link. Participation in a meeting in this manner shall be deemed to constitute presence in person at the meeting.
81. Save for the exceptions referred to below, no Executive Board member is to have any material financial interest personally or as a member of a firm or company or as a director or other officer of a business trading for profit or in any other way whatsoever in any contract or other transaction with the Society. For the purposes of this rule an interest of a person who is connected with an Executive Board member shall be treated as an interest of the Executive Board member. The exceptions are that Executive Board members may:
a. receive a salary and other benefits under a service contract with the Society;
b. buy tickets or season tickets for football matches and use the facilities of any football club in which the Society is interested;
c. be contributors to the Greenock Morton Supporters' Loan Capital Fund;
d. have an interest in a particular contract or issue if they shall first have explained their interest to the Executive Board and the Society Board and:
i. are not present except with the permission of the Executive Board in any discussion of the contract or issue
ii. do not vote on the contract or issue (and if by inadvertence they do remain and vote, their vote is to not be counted).
82. Any member of the Executive Board who discloses a financial interest as described in the preceding Rule must vacate their office either for a period or permanently if requested so to do by the Society Board. Any member of the Executive Board who fails to disclose any interest required to be disclosed under the preceding Rule must permanently vacate their office if required to do so by the Society Board.


FINANCIAL AUDIT
83. The Society Board will in respect of each year of account:
a. cause to be prepared a revenue account or revenue accounts which:
i. singly or together deal with the affairs of the Society and any subsidiary company or society as a whole for that year, and
ii. give a true and fair view of the income and expenditure of the Society and any subsidiary company or society for that year; and
iii. comply with the rules of the Scottish Football Association, the Scottish Premier League and any other relevant statutes or regulations;
b. cause to be prepared a balance sheet giving at that date a true and fair view of the state of the affairs of the Society and any subsidiary company or society and complying with the rules of the Scottish Football Association, the Scottish Premier League and any other relevant statutes or regulations.
84. The Society Board is to lay a revenue account and balance sheet duly audited and signed by the auditor and incorporating the report of the auditor thereon before each annual general meeting, accompanied by a report by the Society Board on the position of the affairs of the Society and any subsidiary or holding company or society signed by the chair of the Society Board meeting at which the report is adopted.
85. The Society Board is not to cause to be published any balance sheet unless it has previously been audited by the auditor and it incorporates a report by the auditor that it gives a true and fair view of the income and expenditure, or the state of the affairs of the Society, as the case may be. Every revenue account and balance sheet published is to be signed by the Secretary and by two Society Board members acting on behalf of the Society Board.
86. A qualified auditor must be appointed to audit the Society's accounts and a balance sheet for each financial year. In this rule qualified auditor of means a person who is a qualified auditor under Section 7 of the Friendly and Industrial and Provident Societies Act 1968 and Section 25 of the Companies Act 1989.
87. The auditor shall, in accordance with Section 9 of the Friendly and Industrial and Provident Societies Act 1968; make a report to the Society on the accounts examined by them and on the revenue account or accounts and the balance sheet of the Society for the year in question.
88. None of the following persons is to be appointed as auditor of the Society:
a. an officer or servant of the Society; or
b. a person who is a partner or close relative of or in the employment of or who employs an officer or servant of the Society.
89. Save as provided in this Rule every appointment of an auditor is to be made by resolution of a general meeting of the Society. The exceptions are:
a. the first appointment of an auditor is to be made within three months of the registration of the Society and is to be made by the Society Board if no general meeting of the Society is held within that time;
b. the Society Board may appoint an auditor to fill any casual vacancy occurring between general meetings of the Society.
90. An auditor appointed to audit the accounts and balance sheet of the Society for the preceding year of account (whether by a general meeting or by the Society Board) is to be re-appointed as auditor of the Society for the current year of account (whether or not any resolution expressly re-appointing them has been passed) unless:
a. a resolution has been passed at a general meeting of the Society appointing somebody instead of them or providing expressly that they are not be re-appointed; or
b. they have given to the Society notice in writing of their unwillingness to be reappointed; or
c. they are not permitted by these Rules to be the auditor; or
d. they have ceased to act as auditor of the Society by reason of incapacity;
e. proper notice of an intended resolution to appoint another person in their place has been given but the resolution cannot be proceeded with because of the death or incapacity of that other person.
91. A resolution at a general meeting of the Society:
i. appointing another person as auditor in place of a retiring auditor; or
ii. providing expressly that a retiring auditor is to not be re-appointed will not be effective unless notice of the intention to move it has been given to the Society not less than twenty eight days before the meeting at which it is to be moved. If such a notice is given the following procedure will be adopted. The Society will send a copy of the notice to the retiring auditor. If it is practicable to do so the Society will give notice of the intended resolution to its members with the notice of the meeting. If that is not practicable, the Society will publish details of the notice by advertisement not less than seven days before the meeting in a newspaper circulating in the area in which the Society conducts its business. If the retiring auditor makes any representations in writing to the Society in response to the notice or notifies the Society that they intend to make such representations, the Society will notify the members as required by Section 6 of the Friendly and Industrial and Provident Societies Act 1968.


PERFORMANCE AUDIT
92. A general meeting of the Society may require the Society Board to appoint appropriate people to act as auditors of the achievement by the Society of its objects or any aspect of the Society's performance of its obligations under these Rules.


ANNUAL RETURNS
93. The Society will make an annual return to the Registrar as required by the Act.
94. The Society will supply a copy of the last annual return with all supporting documents to any member on request and without charge.


AMENDMENT TO RULES
95. Unless these Rules say otherwise any Rule may be altered or rescinded, or any new rule may be made, by resolution of at least two thirds of these members who vote in person or by proxy at a general meeting. No change to these Rules shall be valid until registered.
96. The following Rules may only be changed by a majority of at least three quarters of the members who vote in person or by proxy at a general meeting:
a. Rules 1 - 6 inclusive
b. This Rule
c. Rule 97
d. Rule 98
e. Rule 103
97. In the case of this Rule, Rule 6 and Rule 103 the quorum at any general meeting called to consider a resolution to amend shall be not less than one half of the members entitled to vote at the meeting if the Society has up to 200 members when the meeting is called; not less than one third of the members entitled to vote at the meeting if the Society has more than 200 but less than 1000 members when the meeting is called; and not less than one quarter of the members entitled to vote at the meeting if the Society has more than 1000 members when the meeting is called.


CHANGES TO THE CONSTITUTION
98. The Act provides that the Society may by special resolution:
a. amalgamate with another Society or a company registered under the Companies Acts
b. transfer its engagements to another society or a company registered under the Companies Acts
c. convert itself into a company registered under the Companies Acts The quorum at any general meeting called to consider such a resolution shall be 50% of the members entitled to attend and vote at the meeting unless the resolution proposes an amalgamation with or transfer of engagements to another industrial and provident society trading for the benefit of the community and having provisions in its rules substantially identical to Rule 6, Rule 103 and this Rule.


INVESTMENT AND BORROWING
99. The funds of the Society may, to the extent permitted by the law for the time being in force and with the authority of the Society Board, be invested:
a. in the shares of any company or society;
b. in any manner expressly authorised by the Act;
c. but are not to be invested otherwise.
100. The Society may borrow money on such terms as the Society Board shall authorise.
101. A duly appointed receiver or manager of the whole or part of the Society's property may assume such powers of the Society Board or the Executive Board as he or she considers necessary to carry out his or her duties under the instrument of appointment.


DISSOLUTION
102. The Society may be dissolved by the consent of three-quarters of the members who sign an instrument of dissolution in the form provided by Treasury Regulations or by winding-up in the manner provided by the Act.
103. If on the winding up or dissolution of the Society there remains, after the satisfaction of all its debts and liabilities including any payment due to the Greenock Morton Supporters' Loan Capital Fund, any property whatsoever the same is to be transferred to:
a. a sporting charity or sporting charities operating in Inverclyde or the surrounding area; and/or
b. one or more societies established for the benefit of the community operating in the Inverclyde or the surrounding area; and/or
c. one or more societies established for the benefit of the community in each case as determined by the members at a meeting called to decide the issue. Nothing belonging to the Society shall be transferred to any other society unless that society has in its rules a rule substantially in the terms of this Rule.


INDEMNITY
104. Officers will be indemnified by the Society against all costs, losses and expenses which they may reasonably incur in discharge of their duties, including travelling expenses, and the amount for which such indemnity is provided will immediately attach as a charge on the property of the Society.
105. No officer is to be liable for any loss happening to the Society through the execution of the duties of their office, unless the loss be the consequence of their own dishonesty or gross negligence. Subject to the provisions of the Act every officer is to be indemnified out of the assets of the Society against any liability incurred by him in defending any proceedings, whether civil or criminal, in which judgement is given in his favour or in which he is acquitted or in connection with any application in which relief is granted to him by the Court from liability for negligence, default, breach of duty or breach of Society in relation to the affairs of the Society.


MISCELLANEOUS ADMINISTRATIVE PROVISIONS
106. Anything done in good faith by any meeting of the Society Board or the Executive Board shall be valid, notwithstanding that it is afterwards discovered that there was any defect in the appointment of any board member or board members or that any one or more of them were disqualified and shall be as valid as if every board member had been duly appointed and was duly qualified to serve.
107. The Society will not be entitled to rely against other persons on any alteration in its Rules if the alteration had not been registered at the material time and is not shown by the Society to have been known at that time to the person concerned.
108. Minutes of every general meeting, of every meeting of the Society and Executive Boards and of every meeting of a committee appointed by the Society Board are to be kept. Minutes of meetings will be read at the next meeting and signed by the Chair of that meeting. The signed minutes will be conclusive evidence of the events of the meeting.
109. The Society is to have a seal which is to be kept in the custody of the Secretary. The seal is not to be affixed to any instrument except by authority of the Society Board or a sealing committee appointed by the Society Board. The affixing of the seal is to be attested by the signature of one member of the Society Board and the Secretary.
110. The Societies registered office is : 6 Cloch Brae, Gourock, PA19 1AS. The Society is to keep:
a. a register in which the Secretary is to enter the following particulars:
i. the names and addresses of the members;
ii. details of the share held by each member and of the amount paid or agreed to be considered as paid for that share
iii. a statement of other property in the Society whether in loans or loan stock held by each member,
iv. the date at which each person was entered in the register as a member and the date at which any person ceased to be a member;
v. details of any deputy appointed by any corporate member;
vi. the names and addresses of the members of the Society and Executive Boards with the offices held by them and the dates on which they assumed once.
b. a duplicate register in which the Secretary is to enter all the particulars in the original register of members other than those referred to in (a)(ii) and (iii) above
c. a register of the holders of loan stock in which the Secretary is to enter such particulars as the Society Board direct and register all transfers of loan stock;
d. a register in which the Secretary is to enter such particulars of all mortgages and charges on land of the Society as the Society Board directs.
111. Subject to the provisions of the Data Protection Act the registers to be maintained by the Society may be kept in electronic form.
112. The inclusion or omission of the name of any person from the original register of members shall, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, be conclusive evidence that such person is or is not a member of the Society.
113. The Society is to keep proper books of account with respect to its transactions and to its assets and liabilities in accordance with Sections 1 and 2 of the Friendly and Industrial and Provident Societies Act 1968.
114. Members are entitled to inspect a) their own account cool.gif the duplicate register at the registered office at any reasonable time.
115. The Secretary is to deliver a copy of these Rules to every person on demand on payment of an amount fixed by the Society Board subject to the statutory maximum.
116. Notice of any change in the address of the registered once is to be sent by the Secretary to the Registrar of Friendly Societies in the form prescribed by Treasury Regulations within fourteen days of the change.
117. The registered name of the Society is to be engraved in legible characters on its seal.
118. The registered name of the Society is also to be mentioned in legible characters in all:
a. business letters, notices, advertisements and other official publications
b. bills of exchange, promissory notes, endorsements, cheques and orders for money or goods purporting to be signed by or on behalf of the Society
c. bills, invoices, receipts and letters of credit of the Society.


DISPUTES
119. Every dispute which arises out of these Rules between the Society and:
a. a member; or
b. any person aggrieved who has ceased to be a member within the six months prior to the date of the dispute;
c. any person claiming through such member or person aggrieved; or
d. any person bringing a claim under the rules of the Society; or
e. an officer of the Society
is to be submitted to an arbitrator agreed by the parties or nominated by the Chair of the Football Society. The arbitrator's decision will be binding and conclusive on all parties.
120. The cost of the arbitration will be borne as the arbitrator directs, and any person bringing a complaint must deposit with the Society the sum of £500 or such other reasonable sum as the Society Board shall decide to abide the arbitrator's decision.



Rules

of

GREENOCK MORTON SUPPORTERS' SOCIETY LIMITED

Registered under the Industrial and Provident Societies Acts 1966



And we can't see a nice wee letter to Mr Donald! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 15:48:26
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jul 16 2008, 03:30 PM) [snapback]478385[/snapback]
The big number 4 was the 1 plus point in another mind numbing perfomance. He is like Greasan but with a brain.

I thought the Ayr game was bad but jesus christ. we look absolute piss poor. We managed to drag Hartlepool down to our level in the 2nd half I suppose that can be looked on as some kind of plus. I would love to see us pass the ball for once! i dont remember the last time we just kept possesion of the football. It's always panic stations, just pass and move. Wheres our midfield?

The system doesnt work, and it's the only one we can play. Brilliant.

We have a SYSTEM? blink.gif

No wingers, no full backs, one jittery goalie, and nobody who can/will run with the ball.

I can just SMELL the ambition. ph34r.gif

Either Alistair Donald splashes the cash mighty soon,or DI/DC will be offski to better things-GUARANTEED.

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mortonjag 2008-07-16 15:52:24
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 16 2008, 03:34 PM) [snapback]478388[/snapback]
it would probably help if the Company morton use for stewarding didn't hire tiny 16 year old boys as stewards.

DAMN YOU-SPARROT will be in for a promoted post.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 15:56:56
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 16 2008, 03:44 PM) [snapback]478394[/snapback]
legally the rules have to be seen by all, will the letters be you'll find out soon

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I can find out anything I want to about the Trust Bryan-that's one of the reasons I pish myself laughing at all the cloak and dagger stuff.

You're worse than the WRI-honestly! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 16:01:44
QUOTE(giz @ Jul 16 2008, 03:50 PM) [snapback]478402[/snapback]
Apparently its Celtic's 1st team against the same Morton team as last night (dont know if its the same starting or ending 11?)

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mortonjag 2008-07-16 19:13:11
QUOTE(giz @ Jul 16 2008, 04:05 PM) [snapback]478412[/snapback]
Dont shoot the messenger!

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QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 16 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]478447[/snapback]
It is smartass. rolleyes.gif

OH REALLY Smiffy-and how do you care to define Celtic's 'First Team' in a pre season bounce match-but wait-maybe you're a Tim! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 19:19:33
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 16 2008, 05:03 PM) [snapback]478453[/snapback]
laugh.gif i did think about it for a second, but it wasn't him. sad.gif

To whom do you refer?
mortonjag 2008-07-16 19:29:12
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mortonjag 2008-07-16 19:38:29
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 16 2008, 06:43 PM) [snapback]478516[/snapback]
that's near enough my plan, dietcokehound.
who says they're over-priced? that's what people will pay. in fact it's less than what people will pay. as for 'that street', on which you are no doubt an expert, my arse, the only vandalism i've ever seen is some wee toerag scrawling his tag on my for sale sign last week. i was in the local park after dark a few weeks ago and the local youths were drinking bottled water.

Not the first time you've been seen over at the Uni. Once the over priced flat goes you may rest your butt for a little.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 19:55:38
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 16 2008, 07:40 PM) [snapback]478563[/snapback]
I disagree entirely that corporal punishment of adults of any form is a true deterrent.
Setencing though should never be mandatory: judges are paid a lot of money to asess the mitigating factors, and given an efficient prison system should be under no pressure when giving their verdict.
Of course proper rehablitation in prisons (possibly using Youngsa's said method) is far more beneficial to society than hitting criminals with bits of wood.

I think you've got that message over loud and clear SPARROT

I have PLENTY of respect for folk of your age AND younger, who demonstrate maturity, the ability to listen to the voice of experience, and the good sense not to spout others' opinions and imagine they'll escape scot free.

You are an extremely immature 17 year old child-your family have clearly seen you as something of an intellectual prize and have pandered to your 'clever little boy' persona. Doubtless your peers perceive you as Einstein or a total fud.

In my opinion you require a damned good thrashing. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 20:02:08
QUOTE(Honey Monster @ Jul 16 2008, 06:35 PM) [snapback]478510[/snapback]
The Honey Monster appreciates everybodys concern.

Honey Monster-are you me or is that Big Blue Eyes or is Deego both? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 20:16:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 16 2008, 07:58 PM) [snapback]478578[/snapback]
Of course Mortonjag's opinion is more valued than anyone else's opinion, which is why he spouts it 21,000 times and generally acts like a 4 year old when questioned about the reasoning behind said opinion.
I refuse to accept your opinion as greater than anyone else's on this board: that is all it is - one sad, pyschologically damaged man's opinion.

I do understand SPARROT-I REALLY do.

What's tonight's bedtime story from that over indulgent doting wee Mammy of yours as she tucks you up nice and cosy in your wee Jesus cradle?

Surely not Tolstoy again?

Might I suggest a nice ghostie story about Mad Mentaljag, Fing, and Monkey beating you in the final of Junior Mastermind, and you still getting the trophy because you refused to accept the decision?

How about refusing to accept that you'll drown if I put a pair of concrete wellies on your wee pink flippers and fling you off Princes Pier.

'Show me the EVIDENCE' I hear you bleat pathetically in your recently broken voice. thumbdown.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-16 20:19:40
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jul 16 2008, 07:59 PM) [snapback]478579[/snapback]
thought something with lots of anger might appeal to you
cheers mj

It's a pleasure young man. You are one of many who appear capable of voicing youthful opinion without announcing to the world that they are God almighty! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 20:34:46
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 16 2008, 08:06 PM) [snapback]478585[/snapback]
Certain posters on here seem to be defending those who carry knives.

Is this because they do it themselves or are aware of friends or family that do ??

These same posters I'd also doubt have signed Damian's Law.
To the above please hang your head in shame.



QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 16 2008, 08:19 PM) [snapback]478603[/snapback]
Ha, well a harsher person than I would suggest a sinister motive behind your longings for young people and children to listen to your "voice of experience", but I'm not going to stoop to that level.
You've already ran out of analogies: the same bedtime one has been regurgitated four times now.
Where's the originality, creativity or intelligence?


'Run' my child-if ever proof were needed of my 'clever little child of less educated and doting parents' , I have it in that one rudimentary mistake!

You're not old enough to vote.

You're not old enough to drink.

You're old enough to get your hole but instead have hypertrophic wrist muscles. The attractive young males prefer men to mouths.

In truth you're a bit of a waste of space-BUT- that's only the opinion of a VASTLY experienced professional who's old enough to be your Grandparent. SPARROT.

Never let anything get in the way of your right to be right-just like Mummy tells you.

Of course you're 'not going to stop to my level' . How could you when you are still incapable of standing on your own two feet? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 20:44:16
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 16 2008, 08:37 PM) [snapback]478615[/snapback]
I'll take your word for it on that one.
Perhaps Mortonjag would like to iron out a few of his own rudimentary mistakes before preaching to others.
Or you could just remain a c***.

Mortonjag does not make mistakes SPARROT. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 20:45:09
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 16 2008, 08:39 PM) [snapback]478616[/snapback]
LeyTON and VT......
If someone was to stab me tonight, God Forbid, and I lived to tell the tale, what do you two think would be a suitable sentence ??

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mortonjag 2008-07-16 20:48:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 16 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]478611[/snapback]
When will you actually stop repeatedly lying and return to some level of adult debate?

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mortonjag 2008-07-16 20:51:00
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 16 2008, 08:42 PM) [snapback]478618[/snapback]
Since when did I become a judge?
Although it doesn't suprise me that you won't retract your earlier spurious allegations, you're above that level of curteousy after all.

From the first time you needed a damned good thrashing and failed to get it SPARROT.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 20:59:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 16 2008, 08:53 PM) [snapback]478632[/snapback]
"Mortonjag expresses a repressed desire, nay, urge, to beat children."

Mortonjag's desire to birch knife toting thugs is not repressed.

I do sincerely believe that you would have grown up by now if you'd had some respect instilled into you. Instead you present as an offensively self opinionated little man who has clearly been over indulged by doting parents.

A good birching right now would sort you out once and for all SPARROT-GUARANTEED! bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 21:07:52
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 16 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]478644[/snapback]
Oh, but you see, your opinion is utterly irrelevant, namely because you are a c*** whose sole aim in life is to promote your own achievements in your irrepresible ego trips.
Respect is earned, and you have did nothing of note to earn my respect, so screw you.

HA SPARROT-it gets worse. You're NOT really that bright at all.Perhaps I've been too hard on you son.

Go to sleep, my baby
Close your pretty blue eyes
Angels are above you
Looking down to say "I love you"
Great big moon is shining
Stars begin to peep
Time for little piccaninnies
To go to sleep.

THERE! wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 05:32:05
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 16 2008, 07:42 PM) [snapback]478565[/snapback]
Did you mean METAL, as that's what they're made of.
As WillowMan reaches for his coat....

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Well done Willy Man-four and a half hours before anybody spotted that! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 05:43:59
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Jul 16 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]478635[/snapback]
Actually I felt he had to go also, I just didn't feel the need to drone on about it on these boards.


The call for JM's head was anything but droning. More like full blooded war cries.

Are you quite a sanctimonious soul? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 05:49:51
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 16 2008, 07:57 PM) [snapback]478576[/snapback]
Dougie smile.gif

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Shoogly was there on Tuesday. I thought he looked quite old, sad, and serious. I wanted to give him a big hug.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 05:55:03
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 16 2008, 08:44 PM) [snapback]478620[/snapback]
Because I knew the line-ups before KO. laugh.gif

Hey Smiffy-just because the squad had MANY first team players doesn't mean we 'played the first team'.

BTW that was the Tims' first get together after the closed season and our SIXTH match!

Heady stuff indeed! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 06:13:07
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 16 2008, 08:15 PM) [snapback]478594[/snapback]
fancy it then mj

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Sure!

Given that the Trust has made it eminently clear that it does not represent the fans, and is simply a 'shareholder', would the Trust welcome the setting up of an independent organisation which WOULD represent the fans, AND be truly independent of the Board-an organisation with which the body of the fans could readily identify.

Such an organisation could presumably take over the functions which the Trust has felt obliged to perform (giving money to Shoogly), and do so in a pro active and accountable manner.

mortonjag 2008-07-17 06:21:53
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Jul 16 2008, 11:22 PM) [snapback]478692[/snapback]
wouldnt worry about it unless you like scat and fart jokes?

HA-that's still the perception of the Jessie Boys!

The early days are over-the forum has matured significantly, and is free of clypes, the Daddies of clypes, and jumped up 17 year old brats.

There is much intelligent debate interspersed with a little nonsense and the rare crudity.

Highly recommended to all adults irrespective of age. blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 06:29:16
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jul 16 2008, 10:03 PM) [snapback]478666[/snapback]
is it? thats quite imaginative laugh.gif

It's perfectly possible this is a genuine young lady. What must she think of our posters cynicism? dry.gif

I've had a quick look at her profile and she seems the sort of quality person we should be welcoming.

Maybe too many wee chips on wee shoulders-eh OTP?
mortonjag 2008-07-17 06:58:47
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 16 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]478649[/snapback]
Given up on spacing your dashes have you?
And your sentences.
Why hello there Mr Pot, how are you today?

There is a vast difference SPARROT. Mortonjag missed the space bar once, while 'pasting' a little lullaby in original form. rolleyes.gif

You, on the other hand, have failed to grasp the RUDIMENTS of English grammar.

I fully appreciate that, like Mortonjag, you come from humble origins.

In your knife crime rife scheme, expressions like 'I seen', and 'I done', are presumably part of everyday speech. Mortonjag fully expects ordinary folk to speak in ordinary language.

Your inability to adapt, however, to 'The Queen's English', during your lengthy treatises and lectures, is proof positive of grammatical ignorance consequent on limited intelligence. Grammatical gaffes do NOT go down well with properly educated people.


Standards have clearly slipped as much in education as in administration of justice in this once fine land of ours.

Brats who fail to do their homework properly should be BIRCHED too. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 07:26:24
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jul 17 2008, 04:01 AM) [snapback]478709[/snapback]
and we can compare IP addresses to see who the alias belongs to. if we can be bothered

HMM!

I suspect Edinton may be Honey Monster-it's not Tontastic-he's actually Colkitto as everybody well knows.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 07:30:17
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 17 2008, 12:59 AM) [snapback]478707[/snapback]
wearing seatbelts when you crash is just as dangerous as not wearing one. If you're going to crash so hard you go flying through the windscreen then the seatbelt is going to do just as much damage anyway.

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mortonjag 2008-07-17 07:33:16
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 16 2008, 10:59 PM) [snapback]478676[/snapback]
Asked twice to get into the new forum ph34r.gif

Didnae happen. dry.gif

Lady McB(eth) got her new car today. Nanny state wagon, kept beepin at me 'cause I didnae wear my seat belt. mellow.gif mellow.gif

Lady McB(eth) gave me hell. crying.gif

Getting past my sell by......................................... unsure.gif

Good God-surely Mr and Mrs Bam have not fallen into the Mearns 4x4 shaggin' wagon 'keepin' up with the Rashids' trap! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 07:36:13
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 17 2008, 06:41 AM) [snapback]478718[/snapback]
aye, the current top ten topics really show the intellectual yet irreverent character that the new sandpit is taking on. right enough.

would you shag helen mirren?

poll: age difference

home made goodies that your maw/granny made

what's even better than winning gold in the paralympics?

names for female genitalia

poll: do you have a criminal record

looking at people's profiles - 44 tonnes is one of the bent shots!

losing the big v - popping yer cherry or someone else's

my neighbours are shagging

a need a s***e

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mortonjag 2008-07-17 07:39:48 Ginger wine.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 07:42:30
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 16 2008, 10:08 PM) [snapback]478667[/snapback]
Precisely! She was wrinklier too. I licked her tits and her fanny at the same time. rip.gif

Your lingual capacity befits a Shooglyphile.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 07:45:22 If I was attracted to/felt the need to shag 62 year old females I definitely give it a bash for the right price.

I'd prefer to stick to tall weedy looking young men in their early twenties. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 08:55:28
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Jul 17 2008, 08:15 AM) [snapback]478727[/snapback]
I use knives for piping reasons and always carry a box of blades in my case at all times.

If I was stopped and searched, should I be put away for five years?

This is common practice for most pipers as a knife is an important tool for maintenance purposes.

I love it how all of you shouting for corporal punishment [b]still have not replied to my last post, where I prove, using official stats, that it does not deter crime :huh[/b]:

Why is this? Because you saw those facts and realised you were wrong, but didn't want to admit it? Please enlighten me.

And I'm speaking as someone who's had a knife pulled on him aswell, while innocently walking home, and im not half as bitter as the people on here who haven't.

I've perhaps missed it but I haven't seen you quote any statistics about corporal punishment. Capital punishment is far from what's being suggested here. In any case I have little faith in bare statistics, especially when they fly in the face of 'common sense'.

Your red herring about piping is just that. Carpet fitters carry Stanley knives, pipers carry whatever you call them, and GP's carry scalpels. They are carried within appropriate containers and are clearly there for a specific purpose.

Birching is, in the long term, FAR more humane than letting some misguided youth serve a criminal apprenticeship for years at huge public expense.

It's intended to be extremely unpleasant. It has been an effective deterrent where used (most recently in the Isle of Man), and the culprit can walk away licking his wounds while deciding never to carry a blade again.

I too have been threatened with a knife on three separate occasions-by mentally ill patients. It was a bit scary, but those folk were NOT in control-unlike the little swine who deliberately get 'tooled up'.

What I'm suggesting is that SOMETHING radical needs done NOW. If it has to be jail for a minimum of-say, five years-so be it, but it will cost a fortune, and going back to your statistics, many will come out with no future to look forward to, and well educated in criminal techniques.

Compare that to a good hard birching which favours decent society AND the Neds.

The truth is that most folk who are anti-birching are youngsters with heads full of ideology and with little life experience.

Prevention is obviously better than cure, but once an infectious disease starts to spread it often takes rapid, radical and very unpleasant treatment to prevent an epidemic.


mortonjag 2008-07-17 10:41:29
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 17 2008, 08:47 AM) [snapback]478732[/snapback]
Would that be a hug in the manner of a Python?

Not at all-why ever did you suggest that?
mortonjag 2008-07-17 10:49:34
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 17 2008, 10:13 AM) [snapback]478739[/snapback]
The point is fandan, that some people like that s*** and there's barely been a single whimper of complaint. So shut yer yap ya sarky bam.

Correct-the Jessie Boys are mutually respectful and you're a wee POUFFE.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 10:51:26 Rhubarb tart.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 10:53:18
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 17 2008, 08:35 AM) [snapback]478730[/snapback]
Sounds just like Port-ton, Deego will be disappointed.

Aw-wee Deeglet's a fine lover too!
mortonjag 2008-07-17 10:55:57 My partner's off all day to a bloody church wedding and reception. Mortonjag was invited but declined.

I can't stand the artificiality-they are a total waste of money, and most victims get divorced within ten years anyway.

Thoughts.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 13:35:27
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jul 17 2008, 08:25 AM) [snapback]478729[/snapback]
It would seem that money is not a problem at Dens Park! Hope it'snt another Gretna in the making.

It isn't and it never could be.

Gretna were non viable from day one because of the demographic situation. Dundee is historically a bigger club than their city rivals with a large potential fan base.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 13:48:12
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jul 17 2008, 12:20 PM) [snapback]478791[/snapback]
I've heard from a source that he was, is, and always will be ... a versatile footballer who is struggling to win his place back in the team.

Like our £250,000 Jimbo? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A STRIKER!



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mortonjag 2008-07-17 13:51:26
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 17 2008, 12:57 PM) [snapback]478821[/snapback]
You can't call me a pouffe out here. MODS!!

BOOZEHOUND WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-07-17 14:01:02
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 17 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]478807[/snapback]
My best friend died in a car crash a year and a half ago, the car he was a passenger in went off the Motorway and hit a tree, im not saying he would have survived if he didn't have his seatbelt on but when they hit the tree the Seatbelt broke his ribs, spine and god knows what else. His whole chest caved in and all because of the seatbelt.

PT-there have been freak accidents where folk have been thrown clear and survived. I can understand you believing that might have happened to your friend.

I can only say completely dispassionately that those cases are a complete rarity. There is incontrovertible evidence to prove that not wearing a seatbelt is plain lunacy.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 14:12:51
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Jul 17 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]478763[/snapback]
This was the second post that I made that was ignored rolleyes.gif



And taunton, the current Scottish & British Pipe Band Champions have a vast history of Socialism and participating in events fighting for workers rights wink.gif



Perhaps it was ignored because it was irrelevant to a debate about CORPORAL PUNISHMENT-not capital punishment. I can assure you that when we had the death penalty here, hardened cons were pretty careful. It didn't stop crime but it largely deterred carrying lethal weapons on the job.

Source-my father in law. Barlinnie Chaplain for ten years, and closer to the lags than any bloody social worker.



QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jul 17 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]478765[/snapback]
we already HAVE mandatory sentances for murder..it's called LIFE.. but since when has anyone actually done LIFE.. unless it's a media driven frenzy which contrives to report 'public opinion' (which the media rarely does) then the govt will use this as a popularity tool, while spouting pish about how they are protecting us... what makes one life more important than another ? why should a police officers injuries be deemed more important than any memeber of the public ? I am not being negative to police officers, but if a contstable gets murdered in the line of duty, then ..hard facts here.. that was a risk he was prepared to accept as part of his duties, uphold the law and serve and protect the public, if a man walking home after a night out gets murdered for no reason..then why is HIS killer NOT held with the same contempt as the killer of a police officer by our govt/judges... because he's not one of them upper class elite is he ? he doesnt represent the govt on the street as the police man does !! common sense must prevail, but for f***s sake if the judges are not sure about how dangerous some of these animals are..then they are talking to the wrong people... let the jury decide on the sentance !

....or have a national referendum on the death penalty-same thing really. thumbup2.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 14:18:37
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 17 2008, 01:11 PM) [snapback]478829[/snapback]
And that's its shame, in most cases anyway. Political language is Newspeak, when politicians talk of compromise they usually mean betrayal. Salmond is probably just another shabby liar, but what the feck, I voted for his shambles of a party in the hope (most likely a vain one) that the Scottish people might take charge of their own affairs and build a fair and just society. Did I compromise? We shall see.

'Always' Mr Edwards.

Bawheid the Betrayer aka Judas Salmond.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 14:27:57
QUOTE(big blue eyes @ Jul 17 2008, 02:25 PM) [snapback]478906[/snapback]
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I've made a quite a lot of money with my photographs, and I'm NOT telling you where else you can see me.

Why is it that a Ton supporter can't do some modelling? My Mum's a professional model, and my Dad's in photography-he makes plenty of money from it too.
Zoe wub.gif

I empathise Zoe. This pubic massage board is full of jealous young men. They're even jealous of a decrepit old man like me! mad.gif

BTW I think you are an attractive young woman, and I wish you well in your studies.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 14:32:36 unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 14:38:10
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 17 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]478915[/snapback]
you've been spending too much time in the pub with those crash test dummies again.
nah you're probably right, seat belts save more lives than kill people thats for sure.

If you're a good boy I might tell you and the other Jessie Boys-maybe even Mr Bam once he works out which buttons to press-about my experience one night with a crash test dummy.

I WAS a wee bit drunk at the time, but he still had a crackin' arse on him.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 14:40:39
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 17 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]478914[/snapback]
sounds like you did compromise, since you voted for someone you didn't like.

the compromises i was talking about werent those which politicians speak of, although you are quite right in what you say. What i mean is that even by choosing a political party to vote for you are automatically compromising your beliefs, because as well as voting for some policies you agree with you will ultimately also be voting for a bunch of policies that you don't agree with.

I therefore conclude that the only way forward is by living in a totalitarian dictatorship. Take away peoples choice, and then there will be no compromise. Dictatorship would also allow the government to make some genuinely long term policies without fear of being booted out 3 years down the line before getting to see their plans through to fruition.

I've thought for some time that the only answer is a benevolent dictator. blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 14:46:47
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 17 2008, 02:38 PM) [snapback]478921[/snapback]
Hell no, the complete opposite. Lady McB(eth) had a mondeo from new which was nearly nine years old. I had driven for over 30 years without so much as a bump. Till the end of June, I was giving way at a give way, as you do, when a very polite lady of the Mearns ran into my back. Mondeo a right off, seabeltless me walked out exchanged details with the lady.

Time for a new car. mad.gif This is the mearns, the street is hoachin' with Mercs, beemers, and Volvos. Not the thang for Lady McB(eth), she got a lovely pre-reg Focus whose only fault is the facking seat belt thing.




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Nothing wrong with a Focus Mr Bam-if you really want to beat the 'seat belt thing' just get an old seat belt clip in a scrappy and pop it into the slot! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 14:49:30
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 17 2008, 02:42 PM) [snapback]478928[/snapback]
Don't like him? I've never met the guy. I don't like the SNP's economic policies because you can't tell them apart from the Tories' or New Labour's. Why does it always have to come down to personalities? I think the main reason Thatcher is hated so much in Scotland is because she's an English middle class woman. Blair and Brown adopted her policies but are they hated as much? I don't think so.

Blair and Brown are English middle class women.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 14:55:35
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 17 2008, 02:30 PM) [snapback]478916[/snapback]
We have Vikington, we were fooled into thinking he was a scandanavian wonderkid, and hopefully you will be too.

He sure is, and he'll talk the rest of you through the game. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 15:02:41
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jul 17 2008, 02:49 PM) [snapback]478935[/snapback]
how do you know ?

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I, for one, would NEVER work for Shoogly! bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 15:06:29
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 17 2008, 02:13 PM) [snapback]478894[/snapback]
Everyone calls Rae "Shoogly", no-one but that even more senile old guy that only about 3 people have ever seen calls Beanie by that stupid name! laugh.gif

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I thought you were being good recently. I shall be calling you CHOCOLATE BOY again! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 15:08:39
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jul 17 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]478942[/snapback]
So do I on an almost daily basis to be honest. And I'm pretty sure he referref to "daft Morton fans", something which is also true of a good number.

Shoogly was far more discourteous to the fans.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 15:15:58
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 17 2008, 02:57 PM) [snapback]478940[/snapback]
No, you wouldn't fit the bill. Not in terms of benevolence any way. laugh.gif

Mortonjag's goodwill is abundant. He is much misunderstood.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 15:19:46
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 17 2008, 03:12 PM) [snapback]478955[/snapback]
Erm, you actually missed the space bar twice, so your arithmetical skills aren't quite up to scratch either.
Must do better.

I'm missing the Monkey and Fing who are down in Oxford for the graduation. I hope to have the photos for Monday.

Will you be attending a proper University come this Autumn? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 15:28:31
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 17 2008, 02:43 PM) [snapback]478930[/snapback]
As to the seat belt law, it's a s***e law. I don't base this on stats, rather it's about personal responsibility and liberty.

The state and it's operatives are right to insist that I drive sober, that I stick to speed limits, get my car MOT'd, don't use my mobile when driving. Failure to respect these laws can have an impact (literaly) on the lives of others.

With all respect to the nanny statists the seat belt thing is only about my life, it's none of their business.
(I'll have the money/cost debate with anyone who wants.)

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I take it the family will be happy to see you go then! oops.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 15:31:07
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 17 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]478977[/snapback]
I'm unsure as to whether my university would meet your criteria for "proper".

Oh DO tell-so long as it's not PISHLEY, I promise not to laugh! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 15:33:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 17 2008, 03:25 PM) [snapback]478972[/snapback]
Maybe you should read my post again. I voted SNP for one reason only : Self Determination for the Scottish People. I repeat, if they don't deliver on that then I will have compromised. Liar? Show me a politician that isn't... at least to some degree..... they're human after all.

A VERY sweeping assumption Mr Edwards.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 15:36:23 Gosh-everybody's being up front-oh well here goes.

Three years older and twenty nine years younger (yesterday at the latest count)! bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 15:42:08
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 17 2008, 02:47 PM) [snapback]478934[/snapback]
Does a parking fine count? laugh.gif

In the spirit of Donga's earlier reply:

Lady McB(eth) has Boney M's greatest hits. unsure.gif



In the spirit of the earlier jobby threads Mr Bam (highly recommended BTW)


Show me your motion
Tra la la la la
Come on show me your motion
Tra la la la la la
Show me your motion
Tra la la la la
She looks like a sugar in a plum
Plum plum


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mortonjag 2008-07-17 17:18:49
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 17 2008, 03:20 PM) [snapback]478966[/snapback]
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Egil Ostenstad anyone?
Nothing beats good communication from the back: perhaps Morton's defenders could learn a thing or two. blush.gif

Good gracious young man-I'm beginning to see you in a new light. Are you free on Saturday evening?
mortonjag 2008-07-17 17:29:14 It's still too early to judge Wakey-he was pure mince when he arrived but latterly has looked much better and was on target three times on Tuesday evening.

Spoonsy's the ideal target man for a shower of spiteful wee boys. He's the best footballer at the club. If he ain't producing on the pitch, by all means slate him, but just please stop talking keech about his ability.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 17:34:15
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 17 2008, 03:42 PM) [snapback]479000[/snapback]
Strathclyde. blush.gif

Strathclyde is a reasonably proper University. Two of my children are graduates thereof! Not the Monkey and Fing who have done MUCH better.

Now SPARROT-PLEASE tell me you're about to study something worthwhile, and not bloody politics and history!
mortonjag 2008-07-17 17:41:41
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 17 2008, 05:03 PM) [snapback]479055[/snapback]
Who knows Sir, who knows.

The same argument could apply to allowing people to only buy 10 units of alcohol weekly on a state given ration card.

Or the banning of fags and ceegars.

Or the banning of many foods which contain too much fat.

etc, etc.

Personal freedom plus personal responsibility.

ETA, read the red part of my sig. laugh.gif

You are a bad and irresponsible man Mr Bam.

As your ample momentum projects you through the windscreen and you collide with and kill some poor blind frail Midden supporter before landing on your big bum with only a bruise on your left elbow-I hope you will be entirely proud of yourself.

We probably will be too. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 17:50:05
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 17 2008, 05:17 PM) [snapback]479061[/snapback]
Checking for worms, faecal blood, or jist a coprophile?

Or worse, a coprophage?

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Yum, yum, empty bum!

QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 17 2008, 05:18 PM) [snapback]479062[/snapback]
BTW Jag, does that song not start
"Brown bits on my ring, tra la la la la."? blush.gif

Naughty-that's the Klingons you're talking about.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 17:55:23
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 17 2008, 05:53 PM) [snapback]479083[/snapback]
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Unfortunately not.

Dammit-bloody hedgehog AGAIN. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 18:01:37
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 17 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]479053[/snapback]
I like living in the west end of Glasgow... the reason i moved up here in the first place was so that i didnt need to commute from Gourock every day. If i am going to live up here, i might as well live in an area that is close to the friends i have in glasgow, and is also convenient for shops and places to go out etc, as well as not too far from town and also isnt bandit country. Therefore i chose to live in the west end, nothing pretentious about it.

Price wise however, its a pretty big difference from inverclyde - which is precisely why i will be moving back down the road within the next 12 months when i get round to buying a place. Its an easy choice imo - for the same price range i can have either a pokey 1 bedroom flat in a glasgow housing scheme, or spacious 2 bedroom flat with panoramic waterfront views in gourock.

The West end is FULL of pretentious snobbery-and Manky's flat IS overpriced-but as he says-folk will pay for the address.

I have lived in Hyndland, Hughenden, and Partick. My brother lives in leafy Dowanhill. Living in the West end doesn't make you a poser or a f*nny, but you sure meet plenty! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 18:05:58
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 17 2008, 05:58 PM) [snapback]479088[/snapback]
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OH DEAR-I suspected as much! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 18:51:54
QUOTE(BMC @ Jul 17 2008, 06:23 PM) [snapback]479101[/snapback]
Sorry but that is nonsense, I've experienced that scenario and the worst the seatbelt did to me was bruising and whiplash, slightly better option than being thrown through a pain of glass onto the tarmac.

I think port ton already conceded that his judgement has been coloured by his friend's death-purportedly (and possibly) caused by his seatbelt.

Mr Bam, on the other hand, argues that it is much more virtuous to defend individual liberty to kill oneself instead of presenting the taxpayer with a huge, and sometimes pointless NHS bill.

The rest of us have to rely on objective evidence. I don't think Lewis Hamilton will be unbelting on the advice of a few of our pubic massage board posters! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 19:08:25
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Jul 17 2008, 06:28 PM) [snapback]479103[/snapback]
Erm...The razor gangs of the 1930s? I'm pretty sure capital punishment was in use there huh.gif And please reply this time kthnxbye smile.gif

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You're becoming more confusing by the minute. Let's start with razor gangs-any 'medic' will explain to you that attacks with an open (cut throat) razor cause horrific scarring injuries, but RARELY are fatal.

On the contrary, one deep penetrating wound from a knife blade can be fatal. I remember one case in Glasgow Royal where two guys were brought in-one DIED from his single stab wound, while the other (who was cobbled up by myself and a colleague) had literally two dozen non fatal wounds. Incidentally, it transpired that he had aimed that one blow in desperation, but he still 'went down' for culpable homicide on a reduced charge. That illustrates why knife crime HAS to be stopped NOW.

The existing capital punishment was not a deterrent because it was not specifically aimed at, and rarely was pertinent in razor gang warfare.

Birching-specifically aimed at knife carrying-and well advertised, WOULD work, as it has worked in the past, or would you prefer to lock silly young kids away for long periods at huge public expense and in so doing turn them into hardened criminals?
mortonjag 2008-07-17 19:13:55 It's always the same when a player leaves! ph34r.gif

I can't prove an entirely personal assessment, but I gained the impression that Scotty was an arrogant wee fud. He still served the club well.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 19:24:51
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 17 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]479100[/snapback]
I have one to attend in August and I'm seriously pissed aff.In fact I don't even know the couple mad.gif I'm in total agreement with MJ, it's wan load of pish. In fact for ruining my Saturday I hope they get divorced and it doesn't last.

I hope in the not too distant future the husband humps some clatty bint one drunken night when he is out with his mates.
Then he rides the wife and gives her a dose ! Marriage over !

Well Spurtle-take the bull by the horns and decline. My partner had little choice as the bride is an old school friend, but I don't know them at all. It's cost her an arm and a leg on a daft outfit and present too! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 19:33:42 I've seen enough of young Graham to suggest that he may end up doing quite well out of football.

Let's not forget his age, his relatively few outings for us, and the abject quality of supply in the last couple of seasons.

Anybody remember his first half performance against Gretna at Palmerston?
mortonjag 2008-07-17 20:03:37
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jul 17 2008, 06:29 PM) [snapback]479104[/snapback]
What did Helen Keller call her kids?

Murrrrrrrrrghrruuurrrrrrgh.

(stolen from EdinTon's book, but was so good i just had to post it)

He's written a book now-there's no keeping up with that young man!

New born baby has enormous deformed ear-parents are distraught-Doc says-'Unfortunately it's deaf too'.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 20:08:16
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jul 17 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]479141[/snapback]
You don't know whether you're coming or going. For clarity how many partners do you have and of which sex, species, inate object etc etc etc biggrin.gif

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I have one real partner- a delightful young lady who caters well for my heterosexual appetite, and is broad minded enough to tolerate my other peccadillos.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 20:10:34
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jul 17 2008, 07:50 PM) [snapback]479142[/snapback]
30 year swing for me, 20 years older and 10 years younger.

Which was the female?
mortonjag 2008-07-17 20:13:54
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 17 2008, 07:58 PM) [snapback]479148[/snapback]
Good grief !!

She is the female equivalent of Mortonjag, laugh.gif Spurtle!
mortonjag 2008-07-17 20:22:33
QUOTE(big B @ Jul 17 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]479169[/snapback]
Apart from a goalkeeper do you think Morton will make anymore signings or are the guys that played against Hartlepool on Tuesday just there to make up the numbers to cover for the injuries?

I'm reading a bit into the planned closed door match with the Huns (and possibly yesterday's too).

I think the begging bowl may be out for further loans, and it's NOT the way forward IMO.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 20:29:04
QUOTE(MORTON1985 @ Jul 17 2008, 08:11 PM) [snapback]479168[/snapback]
about 20 police motors on angus road in larkfield all sealed off about 100 spectators watchin dont know what happen rumour going about someone tried to stab a police but not sure on that , police are still there but saw one man going away in back of police motor and 2 ambulances at the scene and arm response were present

BIRCH THE WEE C*NT
mortonjag 2008-07-17 20:31:39
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 17 2008, 08:19 PM) [snapback]479177[/snapback]
Why is that ? Is it because both of you have red bikini's ?

Mortonjag is a sexy geranium Adonis.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 20:38:15
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 17 2008, 01:13 PM) [snapback]478832[/snapback]
clootie dumplin (with money in it)
tablet
stovies

Canny beat them-well eeksy peeksy with mince and doughballs! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 20:53:39
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jul 17 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]479182[/snapback]
As far as I can see, that IS what he's being slated for.
As for ability, I couldn't really care less how much he has. Ronaldinho has more of it than any other player in the world, but it didn't stop him getting booted out of the team, and latterly club, when he decided he couldn't be arsed playing football anymore. Ability means bugger all if it isn't being deployed on the pitch every week.

CORRECT!

Now check back the posts-his ABILITY is being regularly slated-that's ALL I object to.

I agree you are only as good as your last game which makes Jimbo and Kev put together worth about five bob.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 20:57:52
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 17 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]479201[/snapback]
Aye, indeed.

Just shows what a fud he is.

Talking of FUDS Willy Man-over 75% of posters polled total confidence in JM's ability no time ago!

FUDS and FUDS eh? bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 21:02:59
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 17 2008, 08:58 PM) [snapback]479233[/snapback]
Poor Jag and his hairy friends sad.gif

He was merely sticking it up you, sticking up for you and you call him decrepit.

The Jag and his hairy friends are well respected by many on this board.

Clearly I did not inform you of my orchidectomy!
mortonjag 2008-07-17 21:07:01
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 17 2008, 08:32 PM) [snapback]479199[/snapback]
Inoccent until proved guilty ph34r.gif

BIRCH THE CU*T


QUOTE(IainMorton @ Jul 17 2008, 08:46 PM) [snapback]479218[/snapback]
This place is brilliant sometimes, the faintest sound of a siren and there is a thread on it! I saw two fire engines today in Glasgow just up from where I stay, anyone know what happened? ph34r.gif

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Iain-this Sunday-Shawbridge St-high flats coming down-well worth a look! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 21:12:21
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jul 17 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]479230[/snapback]
Both, I'm happy with the females thank you biggrin.gif Never had an inclination to engage with another c**k ohmy.gif

Edit to make sure it was c**k and not c()nt due to the sweary filter

So you've absolutely no desire to shag a genetically bald hedgehog?
mortonjag 2008-07-17 21:19:25
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 17 2008, 09:12 PM) [snapback]479247[/snapback]
I'm SOOOO disappointed in you Mr Jag sad.gif

Most weddings are attended by folk who don't know the majority of the folk at them.

Rather than look at the negative side of things why don't you look at it in a more positive light....

Spending a bit of quality time with your partner and making her feel proud she has someone as handsome blush.gif
as yourself as a partner.
DID I JUST TALK THE BIGGEST LOAD OF s***E EVER THERE unsure.gif

Well you've seen Mortonjag's avatar!

Why young women, men, hedgehogs, sheep, and hamsters are falling over each other in the rush to sook his willy is truly a mystery, but it's a strange old world!
mortonjag 2008-07-17 21:21:43
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 17 2008, 09:15 PM) [snapback]479249[/snapback]
Aye but would you separate her pish flaps and stick wan up her unsure.gif

Not when he still has the fantasy about a threesome with wee Nickerless and Sir Cliff!
mortonjag 2008-07-17 21:31:06
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 17 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]479259[/snapback]
MJ -

The call for JM's head was anything but droning. More like full blooded war cries.

Are you quite a sanctimonious soul? dry.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

He is one arrogant c*nt-n'est ce pas!
mortonjag 2008-07-17 21:33:33
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jul 17 2008, 09:23 PM) [snapback]479264[/snapback]
Exactly Toby. You would almost think they don't want people going to away games.....

I think you credit them with too much intelligence.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 21:35:23
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 17 2008, 09:25 PM) [snapback]479266[/snapback]
Thank God guys like ourselves were amongst the minority that could see the bigger picture without the blinkers on.

....but they did so graciously concede they were wrong!
mortonjag 2008-07-17 21:39:12
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 17 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]479242[/snapback]
i've only met a few, but then i go out my way not to meet people.

nae takers? ach well. still got one month to escape financial ruin. tell your poncey friends, people.

forza has been duly p.m'd!
mortonjag 2008-07-17 21:44:32
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 17 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]479257[/snapback]

Don't be a Silly Billy Willy man-I have-like Hitler-still one ball and it produces enough testosterone to make up for the effin cowshed.
Big Blue Eyes is a bonnie lass-don't you think?
mortonjag 2008-07-17 21:47:22
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jul 17 2008, 08:52 PM) [snapback]479225[/snapback]
Quality Tunes Boozy
U may like this one

or this one

Maybe this one
I love 90s Dance/Trance music , Im gonna have to do a 90s night in the club lol



QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jul 17 2008, 09:12 PM) [snapback]479245[/snapback]
QFX - Now yer talking lol

Ive DJ'd with them twice and both times it was a completley different group of people except the old guy on the Keyboard , Kirk I think his name was . He was the writer/producer and use to tour with different people who mimed/danced to the songs lol

Easy money if you can get it

TUNE



QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jul 17 2008, 09:26 PM) [snapback]479267[/snapback]
K KLASS are awsome live we had them in December , What a voice that girl has

Another good act live was N Trance , Kelly L'Orena has an amazingly powerful voice

She sang Set You Free right in front of me . I had goosebumps was amazing
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mortonjag 2008-07-17 21:50:29
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jul 17 2008, 09:35 PM) [snapback]479278[/snapback]
Maybe it's because our inspirational leader is going senile wink.gif

MAYBE-you appear to be the master of understatement! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 21:55:20
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Jul 17 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]479244[/snapback]
I know, I can see the flats from my front door so shall be watching!

We can see from our lounge window-the Monkey is rushing back from his graduation to take it in.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 22:03:13
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jul 17 2008, 09:55 PM) [snapback]479298[/snapback]
David Edwards, I have to agree with you about Casablanca. The Marseillaise scene is I think the most stirring movie scene ever.

I also voted SNP, and in fact I'm a member of the party. I don't agree with all the policies but I do want independence and frankly only the SNP can deliver that. After independence we can argue over what direction we take. Personally I'm slightly left of centre with a broad bandwidth on some issues.

That's the in phrase since New labour! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 22:05:53
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jul 17 2008, 09:49 PM) [snapback]479291[/snapback]
Backs in goal if you had one nominated goalie cum defender. Otherwise it was just nearest in.

Bloody hell-I've not heard that in almost fifty years-but that WAS it!
mortonjag 2008-07-17 22:08:16
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jul 17 2008, 10:00 PM) [snapback]479300[/snapback]
New series on Virgin 1 Now

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mortonjag 2008-07-17 22:10:54
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jul 17 2008, 09:53 PM) [snapback]479296[/snapback]
Explain ?

................... huh.gif sorry Scotty-I'm an old man-I just assumed that all those people are very famous.

Are you now going to disappoint me?
mortonjag 2008-07-17 22:15:44
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 17 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]479307[/snapback]
Watched the whole episode unfold, although was it was a potentially serious incident it was humorous at times. The lad involved must have been around 17-18 yrs old and had armed himself with 2 rather large knifes but judging by the amount of police, armed response, ambulance and fire brigades there you would have been forgiven if you thought it was Tricks who a nuke weapon looking for Boozehound.

Mental Health Act?
mortonjag 2008-07-17 22:17:53 What does this raspberry cone guy do do enthuse so many?
mortonjag 2008-07-17 22:23:42
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 17 2008, 09:48 PM) [snapback]479290[/snapback]
The thing is, Sir Cliff would get more exited with a hardon about you in a bikini than he would this..

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mortonjag 2008-07-17 22:30:06
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 17 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]479330[/snapback]
I'm very left of centre with a broad beltwidth. laugh.gif

I'm a universal voter-IF I voted.

It never fails to amaze me that obviously intelligent folk pledge their allegiance to a mythical political position.

Is this a KUDOS thing?
mortonjag 2008-07-17 22:35:56
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jul 17 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]479334[/snapback]
Another fatal knife attack in London tonight. Birch the b*****ds.

It DOES appear to be an epidemic. Young people are so impressionable-they will stop at nothing to be 'in with the in crowd'.

A couple of well publicised public birchings is required NOW.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 22:42:54
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jul 17 2008, 10:35 PM) [snapback]479338[/snapback]
Nearies it was and always should be

For you kids perhaps!
mortonjag 2008-07-17 22:47:34
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 17 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]479336[/snapback]
Words and music. Lyrical genius coupled with melodic refrains that stick in your memory. All together with one great voice.

Shoogly?
mortonjag 2008-07-17 22:50:31
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 17 2008, 10:38 PM) [snapback]479340[/snapback]
no, misuse of drugs act more like. laugh.gif

cause and effect!
mortonjag 2008-07-17 22:56:51
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jul 17 2008, 10:32 PM) [snapback]479337[/snapback]
Not even when I get to your age in about 40 years laugh.gif

Ah-the innocence of youth!
mortonjag 2008-07-17 23:00:50
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 17 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]479350[/snapback]
That's my dogs name.

Mine's 'CROUCH''
mortonjag 2008-07-17 23:06:32
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 17 2008, 10:49 PM) [snapback]479352[/snapback]
Ok Mentaljag. I'll own up. I'm only in it for the glory, not forgetting the money of course. biggrin.gif
I don't think I've ever 'pledged' allegiance to anyone or anything, not even Morton. I'll admit to having socialist politics and being a Morton fan for 'quite some time' now. I guess I'm just a sucker for lost causes. Whether I will be the same tomorrow, well as Bogey said in Casablanca: 'I don't make plans that far ahead'.

Mr Edwards-you are a good man I believe. Unfortunately we live in a bad society.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 23:11:01
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 17 2008, 10:58 PM) [snapback]479366[/snapback]
Fair play Jag, when I'm 86 I'd love to be riding a 57 year old. I kinda idolise you. Not really, but you get the idea.

EXACTLY!
mortonjag 2008-07-18 07:01:17


John Mason summed up the importance of the Glasgow East by-election to the Scottish National Party like this: "If we can take this seat, we can do anything."

It is actually remarkable that this is seen as a two-horse race at all. No matter the circumstances that brought the by-election about, or the fiasco that was Labour's initial selection process, or the economic storms besetting the government at Westminster, or the fact there has been an SNP Government at Holyrood for a year without the sky falling in, Glasgow East should be a canter for Labour.

Instead, it remains a close call. Labour are still favourites but it is all to play for with a week to go. However, this SNP strength in Labour's heartland did not just come out of the blue.

"There are certain parallels with January 1998," recalls Mr Mason. "The Labour councillor for Garrowhill had died and the government was in trouble over cutting Disability Benefit. It was really the first wave of disillusion with Tony Blair.
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"When I won the seat, Labour thought it was just a blip and that the seat would return to them, but I'm now the longest-serving SNP councillor in Glasgow."

In a decade that "blip" has seen Mr Mason reach the point where last May he gained 3199 first-preference votes. No other councillor of any party in the entire city reached 3000. The mould was not just broken, it was destroyed, and Mr Mason found himself leader of a 22-strong group, a real SNP opposition for Labour in the City Chambers for the first time, with representation across every ward in the city.

"A lot about the SNP is building up credibility. That's what the Scottish Government has been doing and that's what we are doing at council level," he said.

Credibility. It is a word Mr Mason returns to frequently as we sit in a coffee shop in Baillieston Main Street. The candidate has been categorised as solid, even stolid, lacking the kind of charisma and pizzaz usually seen as vital for a by-election contender, especially one looking to create a major upset.

Well, he is what he is: a 51-year-old accountant, unmarried, and active in his local Baptist church, where one of his fellow members of the congregation is Bob Holman, the retired social policy professor, Easterhouse community activist and lifelong Labour man.

Mr Mason is originally from Rutherglen but has lived in the East End for 18 years. After Glasgow University he qualified as a chartered accountant, worked for one of the big accountancy firms, then took his skills to a faith-based charity in London before doing aid work in Nepal for three years in the mid-eighties. Returning to Glasgow, he began working in the housing association sector.

"I would describe myself as left of centre," he says. "I have a fundamental position about all people being of equal value and deserving to be treated properly. I would like to see more fairness across society," he said, contrasting, as he often does, those well-off and able to eat out regularly, with those who have to shop around for the cheapest loaf. "I am comfortable in that I don't see a conflict between my faith and being involved in politics."

So why have the SNP become credible in a constituency such as Glasgow East? "I think there is simply a feeling Labour have taken people for granted here. They don't think they have to work for the vote. That's also why some people don't want to vote at all, and we have to overcome that. I am campaigning primarily on prices. Self-evidently that is seen at the petrol pump but it's much more than that. It's also fuel poverty, particularly for the elderly as bills go up, and about the way fuel prices feed into the cost of food for ordinary families."

If that sounds pretty close to the old SNP mantra, "It's Scotland's Oil" then Mason does not demur. If he talks up his belief in independence, he knows he will be painted a "hardliner". If he concentrates on other issues, such as replacing the council tax or tackling knife crime, he knows he will be accused of "stealth" and trying to get independence by the back door. He seems more wryly amused than upset by this.

"This campaign is good fun," he said. "It's a privilege. People in the SNP dream of being in a winnable seat in a by-election. I keep having to pinch myself. It seems surreal but this is a real competition."




Sir Scottish Cliff Spurtle? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-18 07:10:42
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 18 2008, 06:20 AM) [snapback]479512[/snapback]
offtopic.gif rolleyes.gif wink.gif tongue.gif

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I have a son called Graham-but that's his Christian name and he's not a footballer or a fud.

Brian was a snail in the Magic Roundabout, or was he Bryan?

Billy Graham was an American evangelist.

Graham's dairies are an independent coo milking company.

Bryan is a nice wee Mod. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-18 07:17:42
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 18 2008, 02:04 AM) [snapback]479473[/snapback]
f*** you dickcheese. Yer still awrite though. c***o.

Count David Edwards hound-your spelling's getting worse. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-18 07:22:07
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 17 2008, 11:27 PM) [snapback]479398[/snapback]
Good man? Not so sure about that. But you know the saying about what it takes for evil to triumph. We should all try and do our bit, if we can.

Your avatar has an ectopic umbilicus.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 07:23:50
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 18 2008, 01:14 AM) [snapback]479449[/snapback]
When she's girating on me and looking into my eyes, AYE.

She claims to be a model (of sorts).

Should Shoogly know this?
mortonjag 2008-07-18 07:27:09
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 18 2008, 01:20 AM) [snapback]479452[/snapback]
Don't be so stupid the current system is working.

HUMAN RIGHTS YA BASSA !!! HUMAN RIGHTS YA BASSA !!! HUMAN RIGHTS YA BASSA !!!

What's wrong with carrying a knife ??
It wasn't my fault, it was his fault he jumped on my knife, which I require to carry for protection.

....as I was sharpening my pencil!
mortonjag 2008-07-18 07:37:52
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 17 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]479200[/snapback]
so when you you like to meet wink.gif

I didn't agree to meet-you misunderstood-I took you up on your offer to answer questions/suggestions-that was all! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-18 07:45:55 The only creative midfielder left is persona non grata.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 07:50:57
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 18 2008, 07:45 AM) [snapback]479529[/snapback]
Got to agree with that.

Just as bad as drinking a white wine spritzer, now that is just gay, watered down wine...YUCK
But back to the question in this thread, yes I drink red wine(and white). Am I a poufe, well I'll let you lot worry about that. Red wine is good for you(and its stronger rolleyes.gif ). A glass a day is recomended for all over 40's I read somewhere, am sure the Doc can back that up unsure.gif

That is quite correct Sean-ONE normal sized glass of red wine per day and NO other alcohol at all! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-18 08:32:15
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jul 18 2008, 08:03 AM) [snapback]479532[/snapback]
Anyone see a couple of riot vans charge by west station area last night? I was walking to the spar on south street at around 8pm when i seen em.

Just thought id be nosey n see if anything exciting was happenin happy.gif

Doesn't Willy Man inhabit that area?
mortonjag 2008-07-18 08:36:12
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 18 2008, 08:05 AM) [snapback]479533[/snapback]
You had to go and spoil it all didn't you rolleyes.gif

Well they also say shagging is good for you, but they're less specific about colour size and frequency!
mortonjag 2008-07-18 08:42:03
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 18 2008, 08:36 AM) [snapback]479543[/snapback]
So, to sum up, he's a bible bashing baptist bean counter. That doesn't necesssarily mean he's a bad person though. Boring, certainly, but not bad. laugh.gif I hope he wins.

Sounds like an anally retentive POUFFE or is that tottie logical-AND a Holy Willie-come to think of it, that may be also.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 10:42:29
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jul 18 2008, 10:36 AM) [snapback]479606[/snapback]
anticipates now customary MortonJag post slating DDFR dry.gif

ph34r.gif


Selling sweeties is like taking candy from a baby.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 10:46:50
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Jul 18 2008, 09:39 AM) [snapback]479562[/snapback]
I'm surprised Shimminn hasn't been mentioned. Thought he looked better than any of the other 3 trialists we are looking to sign!!
I'm gettin a tad anxious at the news filtering out, as I honestly don't think any of these guys mentioned are of a standard that I was hoping for.

Even if he signs all bloody four we still won't have any creativity in midfield and nobody to put regular crosses over.

The only one who impressed me a bit was the big pony tailed centre back.

No doubt we'll get a victory at Dumbarton tonight, and it will be back to the 'who's like us' slevering sh*t.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 10:50:46 Forgetting the personality bit just for a moment, Jamie is our only creative midfielder left.

Midge went because he was thoroughly sickened by the set up, and Stevenson's form disappeared for the same reason.

I HOPE he stays, but only if DI can get him back to potential.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 10:55:12
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jul 18 2008, 10:32 AM) [snapback]479602[/snapback]
With regards to Jamie, I thought that the problem was with JM but if DI has a problem with JS then maybe the problem has been JS all the time.

IS THERE still a problem. He hasn't figured much so far, but DI's been playing about with (pretty useless) trialists. Maybe Jamie will play a blinder tonight!
mortonjag 2008-07-18 10:59:19
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jul 18 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]479603[/snapback]
A and B are correct however C is wrong I only said I hadn't been to many last season due to work. As for my umbrella, I'll bring that along tomorrow and give you a good battering Mr Turnbull.

I am of course only angry and bitter because I am fat and old and your team is so young and fit. laugh.gif

Old age doesn't cause anger and bitterness.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 11:00:55 Trials for under 17's is a waste of time.

BIRCH THEM.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 11:09:38
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 18 2008, 10:46 AM) [snapback]479615[/snapback]
so do you still think that DDFR is skint MJ? wink.gif

He's skint in terms of Greenock Morton-does the evidence suggest otherwise? laugh.gif

'77 year old man makes profit of £1.6 million' is hardly a banner headline those days. My son's making more money.

Shoogly's mark up, BTW is under 10%!

I've never believed he was personally skint, but bear in mind he's never spent a personal penny on our Club and never will, as he's as tight as the proverbial badger's arse.

(which IS tight as I can confirm from personal experience). smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-18 11:13:28
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jul 18 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]479631[/snapback]
Instead of lacking in midfield i think we have too much going on. Too many muppets not really knowing what their job is, we are far too cluttered, and noone seems to be able to make space to pass the ball. I actually quite like what i;ve seen of Masterton, and for me he could be a very good supporting midfielder as long as big Erik is keeping the door closed behind him. He seems to be able to pick a pass, has a good shot on him and did on a few occasions run beyond the forwards. I'd personally prefer to see us playing a 4-4-2. Although that will involve putting Davie and Alex in at fullback. Buy us some fullbacks Irons!

Cos' SHOOGLY'S LOADED
mortonjag 2008-07-18 11:20:48
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 18 2008, 10:00 AM) [snapback]479579[/snapback]
I'm always misunderstanding what the word 'sure' means as well laugh.gif

You don't seem to be very good at the face to face stuff MJ.

you can find out anything i know, its not cloak and dagger we are just being professional in our dealings, and havent decided if we will make the info free for all until we get an answer.

ask me anything regarding the trust and i will give you and answer with in reason biggrin.gif i'm sure if you wanted to meet us and discuss your views on the trust and morton we would welcome it, you can even minute it and post it here






To which I replied 'sure' and posted my points. What would be gained from a 'face to face' meeting.

Indeed, if the recent AGM's anything to go on, probably only Bryan and Sean would turn up! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-18 11:25:35
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 18 2008, 10:36 AM) [snapback]479605[/snapback]
yeah fair do's, there are pretentions people who live around the area i suppose. i'm just not one of them. regarding the price, i suppose it depends on what the flat is like. its in a decent area and looks pretty good, but recently i have started to see some flats around the west end dropping in price significantly. a couple of weeks ago i was looking at a massive 2 bedroom flat on Ruthven St in Dowanhill (which can be seen in the Avril Paton painting "bedsits"). Not too long ago, it wouldnt have been far offf a 1/4 mil, but now it is on the market for £139K. Unbelievable how much prices are starting to drop, and i don't think it has bottomed out yet.

Oh dear-looks like Manky's after dark sojourns in the park may not be over yet! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-18 11:30:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 18 2008, 09:10 AM) [snapback]479550[/snapback]
Yours may be tautological and Holy Willie may be oxymoronic.

Holy Willies are MORONS?

QUOTE(Alibi @ Jul 18 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]479575[/snapback]
MJ, you really are a bit of an intolerant individual, aren't you? No wonder nobody on this board seems to like you much. You need to lighten up a bit and get over your unrequited love for Alex Salmond.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif Perhaps, though I don't hate them effin Inglish!

QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 18 2008, 09:58 AM) [snapback]479577[/snapback]
Can you be sure that it's unrequited? happy.gif

Mentaljag, Alibi just called you a

poove.

I'm quite happy to be called anything except a liar! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-18 11:42:04
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jul 18 2008, 10:15 AM) [snapback]479591[/snapback]
1. yes..because although were told the class war is over, it's not, and they destroyed our unions etc.. everything the 'working class' man had to use to help himself is now gone.....

2. how the f*** can you remain impartial when someone has just killed somebody else ! ! .. thats the prblem with your lords and lady's, theyre soooo far removed from the REAL society that they DO NOT represent what we want as justice, and if you think that 8 years is a fair sentance for murder then you need to really have a serious look at yourself, try and put yourself in the shoes of a victims family... 8,10,15 years..it's a drop in the ocean for these guys, we all KNOW they will do FAR less than the sentance handed out..... life should mean LIFE.... and again BIRCH THE KNIFE CARRYING WEE NED c***S...

I think you're being a wee bit hard on the Justiciary 'warrior'. They don't make up the rules which apply to sentencing, and if your assertion that they're upper class and detached is true, I'd guess they'd happily birch the wee c*nts and let folk rot in jail.

So far as I can see, our politicians must take the blame fairly and squarely.

What is BAWHEID doing about knife crime right now-indeed does HE really give a f*ck?

With his massive salary and pretentious Holyrood lifestyle I'd suggest that he's FAR more detached from common folk than those who encounter them in court on a daily basis. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-18 11:46:13
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jul 18 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]479595[/snapback]
prisoners asked for salt on their fish and chips and didnt get any...heard they were going back to remedy this...

No vinegar then?
mortonjag 2008-07-18 11:49:12
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Jul 18 2008, 10:59 AM) [snapback]479627[/snapback]
TEENAGER Charged Following Incident -- A 17-YEAR-old man is expected to appear at Greenock Sheriff Court today charged with alleged breach of the peace, reckless conduct and vandalism following an incident at a house in Angus Road, Greenock. He was arrested following an operation involving a number of officers over a couple of hours last night.

http://www.inverclydenow.com/news-detail4.asp?ID=462

BIRCH THE WEE C*NT
mortonjag 2008-07-18 11:52:19
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jul 18 2008, 11:46 AM) [snapback]479652[/snapback]
A rare comment from the Jag there talking about the fantastic wealth of his happy family. Bill Gates makes more money as well but he doesn't own Morton.

What an intelligent and informative comment.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 11:55:12
QUOTE(Speedy7 @ Jul 18 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]479650[/snapback]
That is a Poor Show from the the club as they told all the current U17 they would have a deal next season at the meeting so Irons & Collins & rest of the back room team are liars .They have hung the lads out to Dry most of the other Clubs have there full coater so most of the boys will strugle to find a new senior club a belive a dew of the better players have moved to other clubs sad.gif

Could it be that the management team was misled about the availability of cash?
mortonjag 2008-07-18 11:57:20
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jul 18 2008, 11:53 AM) [snapback]479659[/snapback]
mason came across well, i thought, seems honest enough if a little taken aback by his moment in the spotlight. curran is something of a monster, if im honest, unpleasant woman

Curran is a KEECH-plain and simple.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 12:00:26
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jul 18 2008, 11:55 AM) [snapback]479661[/snapback]
how long have you not voted mortonjag, and what would you do if voting was madde compulsory, as it is in australia

I haven't voted for a very long time-but I'd STILL vote if I found a candidate worthy of my support.

If they ever try to MAKE me vote I will refuse and take the consequences. That will be the day democracy dies.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 12:02:36
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jul 18 2008, 11:48 AM) [snapback]479654[/snapback]
whats your beef with salmond?



He's a power hungry pragmatic buffoon.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 12:05:11
QUOTE(suda @ Jul 18 2008, 11:57 AM) [snapback]479664[/snapback]
Tell your son to stick his money where your mouth is then



Don't be daft-he has no interest in football. Alistair Donald's the man you need to speak to-IF he's 'in the country'.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 12:17:51
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jul 18 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]479667[/snapback]
no just salt.... that's what I heard anyway

Maybe they'll get vinegar instead next time.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 12:25:40
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jul 18 2008, 12:06 PM) [snapback]479671[/snapback]
didn't you make a career out of getting young men to undress leaving them exposed and vulnerable then probe them.

morton's very own max mosley

You obviously remember me with affection.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 12:27:36
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jul 18 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]479673[/snapback]
remind you of anyone?
is mortonjag salmond. didnt know salmond liked young lads as much as you do thoughMJ

Pink botty time for you, you scamp.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 12:34:18
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 18 2008, 12:19 PM) [snapback]479680[/snapback]
Your son is a Pouffe?!?! huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif

Right you-I've had more than enough of your impertinence-you can call Mortonjag anything you like but how very DARE you call my boy's sexuality in question?

This matter will not be resolved till you've had your thoroughly deserved automatic five day ban by the BIG MOD----AND we have sorted things out face to face. I will not-I REPEAT-WILL NOT allow anyone to question my son, even though he takes it up the arse with relish every Saturday in Kelvingrove Park.

He didn't get rich just sitting on it! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-18 12:37:09
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 18 2008, 12:22 PM) [snapback]479684[/snapback]
where is your evidence? He wanted to leave to progress his career as he'd been at Morton 5 years and went a club who are favourites to win the league. Wouldn't so much say that its the set up he didn't like, just that he wants to play at a higher level of football.

Mortonjag was privy to certain information. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-18 12:41:52
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 18 2008, 12:37 PM) [snapback]479698[/snapback]
...but I called him one of these

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mortonjag 2008-07-18 12:45:48
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 18 2008, 12:18 PM) [snapback]479678[/snapback]
£1.6 million as the other thread says wink.gif

A mere bagatelle in terms of reaching the SPL.

QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 18 2008, 12:19 PM) [snapback]479681[/snapback]
we haven't been playing an attacking midfield out the three in pre-season and with Mcalister's reluctance to get forward and Kev's willingnes but poor success rate to get forward, we've had no cutting edge attack wise at all with our three holding midfielders sitting in the middle of the park....usually giving the ball away.

Jenkins you'd imagine would slip in there, but for now i wouldnt be upset if Weatherson got a shot there and failing that give Stevenson a try.

....or we could/should get rid of our two 'wingers' and get wingers.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 12:55:05
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jul 18 2008, 11:19 AM) [snapback]479638[/snapback]
I hear you brother. I finished work at 19:30 last night, approx 35 hours after I'd first started. And we're still no closer to resolving the issues that have plagued us since tickets went on sale at the start of June (when we had to close for a week because we were properly f***ed). Not great for the world's largest arts festival, and it's doing my f***ing head in, especially as I'm being paid peanuts.

The people in charge are idiots. mad.gif

It's surely a strange phenomenon, but those days sh*te does seem always to rise to the top. Talking a good game with plenty of 'in expressions', wearing the right clothes, driving the right car-that and knowing and if necessary shagging the right people.

I'd BIRCH the b*****ds. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-18 13:03:42
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 18 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]479683[/snapback]
I always miss these bits seeing as I eff off as soon as I have piped in the happy couple to the top table.

But it always amuses me just how awful the bridesmaids look in comparison with the bride. Why are they always given dresses to wear that - no matter how skinny - make it look like they have humongous amounts of back fat?!

You'll just have to stop piping at pigs' weddings.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 13:08:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 18 2008, 01:00 PM) [snapback]479707[/snapback]
I thought it was a good likeness!!!!

And bring him on...will he still have his robe on? Oh and why wasn't Daddy there? huh.gif



Because Daddy can't stand effin pomp and ceremony-so much so, that Daddy refused to have a graduation 'fotie took' on two separate occasions!

I believe the boys are planning to show off the regalia soon! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-18 13:17:29
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 18 2008, 12:06 PM) [snapback]479672[/snapback]
Maybe I'm just a bit old fashioned but I would have thought that if you genuinely wanted a dialogue with the trust to discuss points of concern it would be better to do so face to face rather than depend on the stilted medium of a messageboard.

Then again perhaps you don't feel comfortable talking directly to people and prefer the relative distance of the net.

laugh.gif

I'm actually a very good listener Tomtom-G.P., qualified Counsellor etc., etc., though I dislike public speaking. laugh.gif

QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 18 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]479703[/snapback]
im sure at least me, stuart, sean, jim and danny would turn up, talking to us 'face to face' will achive a lot.

Bryan-I actually DID misinterpret your initial comment. I'm sure that if we met, you'd all be the soul of courtesy, but I don't REALLY think Mortonjag is capable of shaking the Establishment at the Trust any more than you and a few others are.

Mind you, you could maybe make use of Fing's services for a relatively moderate fee!
mortonjag 2008-07-18 13:42:09
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 18 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]479720[/snapback]
the trust board are only to happy to meet you or anyone that wants to discuss the trust and its functions and suggesting things we can do. the offer is open and i think it would be good to talk.

I'll have a think, and discuss it with the boys when they're back! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-18 13:52:56
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 18 2008, 01:15 PM) [snapback]479713[/snapback]
Totally agree with MJ on this one. I hate weddings and all the fake s***e that goes with them. Give me a good funeral any day for entertainment.

Now you're talking-doctors, as you know, are renowned for being able to bury their mistakes.

I've had many a good belly laugh at a funforall. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-18 13:57:24
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 18 2008, 01:51 PM) [snapback]479734[/snapback]
Here - rule 4 of the JVTCF ya bawbag !!!!!

TonInDublin

ps can I just remind you that you were the very first person to ever start a "my neighbours are shagging thread" - weekly !

Given the price of those flats, I feel it should have been-'My neighbours are making love'.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 14:34:15
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 18 2008, 02:10 PM) [snapback]479739[/snapback]
Aye, and they're called Farquahar and Alastair. happy.gif

....and can be seen riding the tandem to Queen Margaret Drive of any productive morning!
mortonjag 2008-07-18 14:41:31
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 18 2008, 02:27 PM) [snapback]479744[/snapback]
Fascist policies - here was me thinking both corporal and capital punishment were particularly right wing, fascistic soultions to crime.
We have free and fair elections, by which the government was given a mandate to privatise as it wished and ignore fuel protests until the next election.
Outside politics employment is vastly meritocratic, so in reality any one of us had/has the potential to become one of these upper class judges detached from reality.
I fail to see your point.

As the blind stabee exclaimed to the ned.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 14:46:42
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 18 2008, 02:42 PM) [snapback]479753[/snapback]
Actually many communist dictatorships absorb fascistic tendencies - see Stalin as a perfect example.
But one wouldn't argue that he wasn't a communist.
I specifically termed it fascistic.
I agree with independence, but that appears to be it with regards to your points. sleep.gif

HEY-you're starting to SPARROT again!

When do you start your politics/history degree at the reasonably proper University?
mortonjag 2008-07-18 14:53:28
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 18 2008, 01:47 AM) [snapback]479466[/snapback]
She fairly packs a good muscle so one reckons she's given a good few hand or blow jobs in her time rolleyes.gif

She does have rather handsome biceps though her lips are out of the picture.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 14:56:23
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 18 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]479757[/snapback]
September my love.

laugh.gif I shall post a warning in the union!
mortonjag 2008-07-18 14:59:47 I don't often frequent pubs those days, though I did when I lived in Partick. The Rosevale was a rather despicable place-the beer was fine, but it was always full of drunken Huns.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 15:16:08 Just over four hours to go and no apparent interest in tonight's game. It's really very sad that there appears very little to get excited about at the moment-and that ain't just Mortonjag having his usual moan-it's clearly how folk are reacting to our brand new squad of 'quality players'.

David Irons was hugely appreciated for the stirring end to the season, and by all accounts he has revolutionised the training regime, but his signing policies appear slightly bizarre to say the least. OK-I know there's little cash, but why take on yet another striker when we still have no full backs, no wingers, and one goalie?

Who is going to supply our strikers? Who is going to deal with opposing wingers (look at the second goal on Tuesday)? Is Colin Stewart really the answer-he looks no better to me than McGurn.

Anyway-tonight's prediction-0-3 (LEAFY 2/Jamie 1).
mortonjag 2008-07-18 15:24:40
QUOTE(Malt @ Jul 18 2008, 03:20 PM) [snapback]479767[/snapback]
He has already stated he will sign another goal keeper. We have a left and right back on trial with a view to signing. It is pre-season we aint going to go into games like it is a league match or cup final.

Let the guy do his job and judge him at end of season.

Too many Championship Manager/Football Manager creeps on this board who thinks they could do a better job with no experience of football management.

EXACTLY what I was told a year ago for daring to criticise JM! laugh.gif

I've already predicted we'll finish fifth. I think DI is a big improvement on the last manager. I will judge him as we go along-thank you very much.
mortonjag 2008-07-19 07:30:36
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 18 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]479821[/snapback]
I think you will find that the expression you need to use is Net Profit! A mark up relates to the margin added to raw materials to arrive at selling price. Shops have mark ups. Manufacturers with any decent costing system use different measures.

His net profit at roughly 8.5% is pretty good as manufacturers go. Also bear in mind you are talking of the consolidated results of Golden Casket Group and so I assume that Morton's annual losses are incorporated in their net profit. Get rid of us and his profits from sweeties is probably in excess of £2m.

rolleyes.gif

The expression I used colloquially is one I've been acquainted with for many many years. I'm fully aware of the difference between a wholesale and retail price. I've repeatedly heard businessmen talk of 'mark up' in relation to net profit. 'Skin', is another term used to mean the same.

Anyway, £2m 'NET PROFIT' clearly isn't the kind of money that's going to move us forward. We desperately need inward investment, or SHOULD I say-we desperately need inward investment to be WELCOMED? ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-19 07:32:55
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 18 2008, 05:51 PM) [snapback]479828[/snapback]
Pity, could have won that one blush.gif

After last night, that post is even FUNNIER! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-19 07:39:41
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 18 2008, 08:04 PM) [snapback]479877[/snapback]
wasted at left wing back ph34r.gif

Jimbo is becoming a luxury we can't afford. At Dumbarton last night I kept looking for this £200,000 player everybody seems to see, and all I got was the usual boundless energy, the occasional flash of inspiration, and an extremely unpredictable final product. His game has stagnated for over two seasons.

It WOULD be a positive move to release him for-say £40,000, if we could get it. The boy could have a fresh start, and we could sign a left winger.
mortonjag 2008-07-19 07:50:30
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jul 18 2008, 03:45 PM) [snapback]479781[/snapback]
I agree that Stevenson is about the only player capable of making a real matchwinning contribution in our squad at the moment. McAllister once every ten games can do that. Finlayson did it twice in the last two games of last season, but other than that he can rarely be relied on to be anything more than a solid hard-working winger. Paartalu and McGuffie don't really offer the kind of incisive passing required and Jenkins has hardly played for us. Masterton just might be the closest thing to Stevenson in terms of ability, but he has so far played a deeper role than Stevenson and thus can't influence as much in the final third.

Stevenson from what I am led to believe gets in a huff/down in the dumps if he is not playing and it would seem that he doesn't go the best way about proving to people that he deserves a chance and I'd be surprised if that changed this season. The fact that there are not clubs lining up to take him off our hands would suggest that his ability does not outweigh his attitude.

Millar did not leave because "he was thoroughly sicked by the set up;" he left because Morton didn't want to hold contract talks until February while St Johnstone offered him a good contract and the prospect to play at a better in the December/January. I think Millar was also a bit annoyed that other players had been tied up to longer deals before he had had talks which was not a good move from our hierarchy. In saying that, Millar had a mixed start to the season and had been injured for a while too. Millar did exceptionally well in the last 5 months of his contract and proved many people wrong by displaying true professionalism right up until the last game of the season and I hope he goes onto be a successful midfielder for St Johnstone.

Millar WAS thoroughly sick of the set up-note I have slightly rephrased to pander to your pedantry!

QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jul 18 2008, 04:57 PM) [snapback]479810[/snapback]
where do you get this pish from, in the whole time he's been here I think I've seen him have about two good games.

Describing a player's ability and potential as distinct from his recent performance is not PISH, though some eejits clearly can't read, let alone understand plain English.

QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 18 2008, 05:45 PM) [snapback]479827[/snapback]
Jamie has gone to Alloa on loan. Deserved all he got - really bad attitude. wink.gif

Not like you to be a vituperative snake Smiffy! rolleyes.gif

mortonjag 2008-07-19 08:04:54
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Jul 18 2008, 05:56 PM) [snapback]479831[/snapback]
I hate all this speculation - does my head in.

lets see what happens when the season STARTS!

too many doom and gloom merchants - one of the reasons this board does not appeal to me so much these days.

Morton FC (a "wee team" the last time I checked) could do no better than DI and DC - we should be very happy we even have them in charge.

I just wish MJ et al would stop spreading doom and gloom before a meaningful ball is even kicked.

end of discussion for me.

And I just wish some folk would READ my posts-I've predicted 5th spot because I believe we'll be very hard to beat. That does not alter the fact that we have no creativity either from midfield, or from the wings, and that's a HUGE omission IMO.

Greenock Morton does not need to be a WEE team! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-19 08:10:25
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 16 2008, 10:43 AM) [snapback]478225[/snapback]
Was talking to my mate who is a Morton fan from Dumbarton and like he says Morton preseason prices don't exactly give you an urge to attend, If he and the missus came over last night with the kids it would have cost him £24, Friday night will cost him £12, Morton seem to have a habit of going in for the kill when they are dealing with their die hard type fans whom they know will buy merchandise and turn up even if its against the YAC.

I'm out over £50 already on last night's match plus the two at Cappielow (including petrol).

I would not have grudged a penny if I'd seen anything to get excited about.
mortonjag 2008-07-19 08:14:09
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 18 2008, 11:29 PM) [snapback]480002[/snapback]
McGuffie's goal tonight was a tap in after the Dumbarton keeper spilled a Masterton free kick.

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I KNOW that! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-19 08:17:49
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 18 2008, 09:22 PM) [snapback]479927[/snapback]
never met me then tongue.gif

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You actually drive your charger past me at half time almost every home game when you go for your 'wee wee'! I've often been tempted to say 'Hello' but I'm very reticent. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-19 08:23:34 Can anybody explain to me what the purpose of this drunken melee is?

Will money be raised for a good cause (i.e. Shoogly's big bag) or is it simply an attempt to spread love and affection?
mortonjag 2008-07-19 08:29:04
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jul 19 2008, 02:02 AM) [snapback]480088[/snapback]
Simply to assist Muz in his quest for 8 pages of this s***.

*bump*

Additionally, so it doesn't appear I am needlessly bumping a thread.

Peter, by far the best all round football brain at the club. On a regular basis he sees the pass that those around him fail to see which is why I agree he should be deployed in behind the front two. If DI can get the boys in front of him to read Peter's game and/or Peter to read their game to a decent standard there are plenty of goals to be had with that setup.

Jamie, arguably the most technically gifted player in the squad, could and should be filling that role. His attitude however, stinks of 'Primadonna' and I'd hope someone at the club would be willing/able to give him the kick up the erse that he seems to deserve.

Sadly, I do not see either of them being giving the opportunity to play in an attacking midfield link up role, especially if Jamie has indeed packed up his sarong collection for Alloa. Whilst we no longer appear to be lightweight in midfield my biggest fear for the forthcoming season is where the creative spark will come from.

Indeed Gash-I can see us becoming very unpopular with opposing fans-folk hate playing a team full of positive negativity-we'll be hard to beat, and we'll produce pish poor attacking football.
mortonjag 2008-07-19 08:33:04
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jul 19 2008, 02:32 AM) [snapback]480100[/snapback]
Oh I am broken hearted and a little disappointed you have decided to out us both by proudly announcing the pet names we hold for each other. I may just have to stroke se65ans thigh in work on Monday to relieve the tension.

I'd go stick my head in the oven, if gas prices weren't so feckin high.

WHY WON'T YOU RETURN MY PHONE CALLS ????

Sean works in the massage parlour--FFS he actually looks quite hetero!
mortonjag 2008-07-19 08:44:17
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 18 2008, 09:57 PM) [snapback]479943[/snapback]
I have a feeling Morton will announce the return of goalkeeper Lee Robinson sooner rather than later.

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QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 18 2008, 11:06 PM) [snapback]479978[/snapback]
I'd have Lee Robinson ahead of Colin Stewart any day of the week.

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I don't think Stewart's really been proven one way or the other. I would like him to wear football boots instead of those clown's shoes-his kicking would improve tremendously. They also make him look extremely gauche. He surely must have corns already.
mortonjag 2008-07-19 08:50:45 If Dumbarton had had any luck they could have scored three or four.

Is Irons just 'takin' the piss' with us?

mortonjag 2008-07-19 08:53:35
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 17 2008, 05:53 PM) [snapback]479082[/snapback]
BTW I'm truly hurt a senile old man that is on ignore (viewed the post as it was obvious you were responding to me) is calling me something not remotely offensive based on my user name on a message-board.

PS ViolaTon it is definitely on as the match is booked in as a friendly to be played as the Renfrewshire Cup final should both teams reach it.

Well you did get a bit huffy when I suggested you were brain damaged.
mortonjag 2008-07-19 09:01:28
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 19 2008, 08:55 AM) [snapback]480129[/snapback]
I can wake up at various times in the morning on any given day, and without the aid of any timepiece, I usually guess the time to within 30 mins of the actual time.

Is this weird or can most people do this ?

Spurtle-at last we have a common bond. I can wake up during the night and almost invariably 'guess' the time to within less than 15 minutes, and during the day, I don't really need to carry a watch. I don't know how common this is. What I HAVE noticed though, is that when I go on holiday to abnormal surroundings, I'm not nearly so accurate!
mortonjag 2008-07-19 09:44:37
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jul 19 2008, 09:28 AM) [snapback]480138[/snapback]
Ehrm!!! something like that. rolleyes.gif

BTW, you could still participate as the " Exiles " team doctor, I'm sure you would be welcomed with open arms.

I'd actually love to come, but the boys are due back from Oxford some time this afternoon. I gather Munx has found himself a girlfriend down there which is a wee bit alarming, but I'll keep everyone posted.

Anyway-back to the topic-nae money being raised for Shoogly's big bag=how much is it costing for the use of the facilities? dry.gif


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mortonjag 2008-07-19 10:19:19
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 19 2008, 09:59 AM) [snapback]480148[/snapback]
MJ, details can be found in this thread...somewhere rolleyes.gif

Oh-dear-then I will check when I have time!
mortonjag 2008-07-19 10:21:25
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 19 2008, 10:02 AM) [snapback]480151[/snapback]
Ouch.... laugh.gif

Suppose it as an easy mistake to make though... unsure.gif

I love Smiffy in the Beano.
mortonjag 2008-07-19 10:23:35
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 19 2008, 10:04 AM) [snapback]480152[/snapback]
Doesn't mean we'll have enough to pick up a consistent run of victories though. 36 draws does no one any good, and certainly doesn't get us 5th place wink.gif tongue.gif

Do you imagine we'll get 36 draws? I wonder what odds Mr Hill would give against that!
mortonjag 2008-07-19 10:25:43
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 19 2008, 10:07 AM) [snapback]480155[/snapback]
Can't for the life of me remember where the club were quoted, but I'm sure I read somewhere that this was the case. A lot of the players are on bigger salaries for the coming season and that has affected the transfer budget, not that it was huge to begin with.

Maybe they had to pay them more to fend of the hundreds of bids for their services from SPL clubs..
mortonjag 2008-07-19 10:33:38
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 19 2008, 09:53 AM) [snapback]480145[/snapback]
With Harding, Greacen, Walker and now McManus all injured Irons seems to be concentrating on signing defenders with his interest in Smith, Reid and Meynall. When the injuries clear up we are going to have a lot of defenders competing for three/four places.

I take it as a given that we will sign another goalkeeper but signing the three above might mean signing a boy rather than a serious keeper.

Meantime, we seem to be lacking a bit of creativity in midfield and already doubts are being expressed about our strikers. Personally, I am hopeful that Wake and Newby will come good but I'm not sure where the killer passes will come from unless a fully fit Jenkins can provide them.

It just seems to me that Irons is being forced to sign players to cover for injuries that, with a fully fit squad, he might have preferred midfielders and/or attackers. For me the squad is starting to look as unbalanced as it was this time last year, albeit in different areas.

We're clearly missing JM's naked table tennis training techniques!

The best form of defence is attack and if DI can't see that he's daft. We DESPERATELY need some creativity. Wakey, Newbs, LEAFY, and Spoonsy will score plenty among them if the supply's there.

If you were at Dumbarton last night, you might well have concluded that the opposition produced far better attacking football than we did. Had fortune smiled on them we could have been beaten. 5-0.

DI MUST see the bigger picture-full backs -aye-if they can overlap and get a cross in unlike the current offending 'wing backs'. Central defenders-NO WAY!
mortonjag 2008-07-19 10:41:56
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 19 2008, 02:28 AM) [snapback]480098[/snapback]
Today I pished in a public toilet thingy again, pish against the wall effort. There was once again a pube floating around in my pish. Why is there always a pube in these things?

Buggs Bunny has a friend called Pubic Hare.
mortonjag 2008-07-19 10:50:55
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 18 2008, 06:20 PM) [snapback]479836[/snapback]
I agree that the Act of Settlement is unfair, although there is a small problem with repealing it, as the Prime Minister has
some form of appointage power over the Church of England, or is that the monarch?
Either way the day Harold Shipman is posthumously appointed as Archbishop of Canterbury, you'll know there's an inside man demolishing the Church from within.
Nationalism can be a dangerous contagion.

'Appointage' SPARROT-you're at it again!!!

I DO, however, like your use of 'Shipman' and 'contagion' in the same post-nice to keep things medical!

It's not your postings, or even (sometimes) your opinions which I find so irritating-it's your style. It just doesn't become a 17 year old child. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-19 10:58:58
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 19 2008, 10:47 AM) [snapback]480183[/snapback]
What's Harry got to do with it? tongue.gif

If I'd meant DR Harry Hill, I'd have said so Naitch. I like to get my facts right!
mortonjag 2008-07-19 11:17:42
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 19 2008, 10:57 AM) [snapback]480186[/snapback]
That would be Rae, managers have nothing to do with the financial aspect of contracts...or at least they're not supposed to!

If Rae isn't giving him more money to sign Alan Reid, possibly Dominic Shimmin and a decent goalkeeper, then it's a farce.

Hopefully Jamie goes to Alloa and they pay their fair share of his wages, and the Shire are paying Brian's wages.

Who else? Oh aye, Kieran, will anybody take that useless waste of space???

EDIT: Reid disappeared, even though I typed it... dry.gif

I noticed David McGregor in track suit at Dumbarton. Another lad who's surplus to requirements and still picking up a salary?

On the one hand we're told Rae wants rid of Stevenson, McAnespie, Graham, and McGregor, BEFORE money will be available for signings.

On the other there is talk of 33% wage rises, and we've already had CRAZY extensions to contracts for mediocre performers.

In his first 'Life on a Shoogly Peg' notes, The Chairman states (of Brian Reid) 'I had to sell him to Rangers for £250,000', but some years later I was overjoyed to bring him back'. Of Dean Keenan he opines-'Ayr were lucky to get the services of this promising young professional'. Talking of the Hartlepool game-'We will be ready for them-that's a promise'.


Is Shoogly verging on dementia?
mortonjag 2008-07-19 12:32:14
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 19 2008, 11:55 AM) [snapback]480210[/snapback]
Christ...imagine the field day the jag would have if we done something like that!!!! ph34r.gif

The Jag has no problem with a football club 'community' young man. What the Jag objects to is 'The Club' = Mr Rae.
mortonjag 2008-07-19 12:40:47
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 19 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]480190[/snapback]
You mean Dr Matthew Hall surely jaggy boy wink.gif

I meant he is not 'Mr'!

QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 19 2008, 11:04 AM) [snapback]480193[/snapback]
Over the last five seasons the average points for a fifth place finish is 51 and the highest has been 55. In the same five seasons, to finish 8th (taken as one point more than ninth place) the average is 36 with the highest being 41.

So, as you say, 36 draws does no one any good but we will in my opinion win more than we will lose just because we will be hard to beat but I think we will 'win ugly' a lot of the time rather than with any panache or style.

EXACTLY what I fear-I know many posters are more concerned about status than how it's achieved, but I prefer to see entertainment .

QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 19 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]480212[/snapback]
I thought TrumpingTon was being sarcastic. rolleyes.gif

So, I'd imagine, did he! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-19 12:47:48
QUOTE(irnbru @ Jul 19 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]480208[/snapback]
Were you at the game?

I was indeed, and I was trying very hard to objectively assess a contest between a first and third division side.

Nowhere have I suggested that Dumbarton had superior players in terms of fitness or general ability, but the fact remains that BOTH sides created chances.

If lady luck had smiled on us we could have won by two or three goals-indeed our one goal WAS a bit of luck- but particularly in the last half hour the Sons played far more attractive attacking football, and they COULD have won by a similar margin.
mortonjag 2008-07-19 12:53:00
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 18 2008, 06:09 PM) [snapback]479833[/snapback]
....... the hound please.

Hired a boat on the Shannon for a week so I'm off tomorrow to sail the briny with me tars........

Later dudes

TonInDublin

ps Dirty Dingus - you're in as soon as the mods see the PM I sent

Should we be looking out for a latter day Columba paddling his coracle wearily past Ailsa Craig next Saturday?
mortonjag 2008-07-19 12:59:36 I remember when I was much younger I had two recurring nightmares. One was being in a public pace naked, and the second was falling from a great height.

Nowadays my dreams are much more random, and usually have at least some connection with reality.

I once dreamed (honestly) that Douglas Rae had paid somebody to kill me, but he was a pretty poor shot, and I managed to escape to safety.
mortonjag 2008-07-19 13:08:33
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jul 18 2008, 05:32 PM) [snapback]479823[/snapback]
couple of hundred bucks worth of fine
i disagree, not voting isnt democratic and in my view means you have no right to moan. you slag off salmond and yet you had the only opportunity you have to tell him you dont agree with him and you turned it down. im leaning towards compulsory voting at the minute. spoling your paper im all for

I'm afraid I'm fundamentally at odds with your proposition. I did not choose to be born in this country, but here I am. I am entirely at liberty to decide whether or not I vote in a process which I did not endorse in the first place. If a law was introduced to 'make' me vote, I would simply become further proof that stupid laws are flouted, and I'd be damned sure to milk the publicity about my 'punishment' for all it was worth too! dry.gif

QUOTE(BMC @ Jul 19 2008, 12:00 AM) [snapback]480044[/snapback]
Isnt the point of a democracy that everyone has a choice when it comes to who to vote for, including none of them.

PRECISELY.

QUOTE(leyTON @ Jul 19 2008, 05:04 AM) [snapback]480108[/snapback]
yes and you can do so by spoiling your paper, or crossing no vote, as dunning says. not turning up is just lazy and gaves you know say in the democratic process. MJ cannot rant about salmond, he did nothing to prevent him coming to power

Mortonjag MAY rant about Salmond as long and hard as Mortonjag wishes. You may have noticed that Mortonjag 'rants' about all politicians.

Mortonjag is proud of HIS independence.

It never fails to amaze me how many of today's youngsters appear to buy into ideology without giving a thought-SPARROT is perhaps the best example on our little pubic massage board.

I'm entitled to 'rant' at the behaviour of Mr Mugabe even though I've never been anywhere near Zimbabwe, let alone been offered a vote in its democratic elections. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-19 13:45:42 Last night I attended a football match with my brother. Sitting about three seats along was an extremely portly gentleman, whom I felt sure I'd seen before. When I went for my half time piss, he smiled at me and graciously ushered me past his protuberant abdomen with a friendly pat on the back.

This process was repeated on my return from the lavatory.

I kept thinking I knew him from somewhere, and in the car on the way home I asked my brother, who claims this gentleman used to be a mascot at the club, but I'm sure he must be getting confused.

So there we go. Mortonjag has confessed to ignorance! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-19 13:48:42
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 19 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]480177[/snapback]
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God I can't go anywhere these days!!!!
Oh and something else I must say....people need to stop taking their toddlers to weddings!!!!! I'm sure anyone who has been to a wedding will know exactly what I mean!

Nothing should be allowed to distract you from your pipes.
mortonjag 2008-07-19 13:52:23
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 19 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]480173[/snapback]
Ah c'mon...get it telt!!!!!

WTF's QOTW
mortonjag 2008-07-19 13:57:04
QUOTE(BMC @ Jul 18 2008, 11:42 PM) [snapback]480024[/snapback]
Haha remember when at Uni there was someone surfing porn in the computer labs which is 3 rows of computers facing the same way, so you could see the machines in the rows in front of you and thus the hardcore action this guy was looking at. Everyone was posting on the newsgroup laughing and/or horrified at this, the guy was promptly nicknamed mr shoogly wrist although he obviously never read the newsgroup as it didnt stop him and this continued for about a week till he was chucked off the course as the lecturers etc would post on the newsgroup as well and obviously found out about him. Bizarre behaviour IMO.

OH DEAR! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 19 2008, 08:29 AM) [snapback]480121[/snapback]
We had one joker who spent his Saturday overtime surfing porn (before MOD firewalls got as restrictive) He got a severe warning but couldn't resist the lure and he was back on it a month later. Needless to say the didn't survive the second episode and got canned. :lol:Must have been a real joy explaining it to his happy clappy born again missus.


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I've always thought of porn as a means to an end rather than free standing.

Anyway, when I worked, I was far too busy looking at folk in varying degrees of undress, to bother with a computer monitor.
mortonjag 2008-07-19 14:07:11
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Jul 18 2008, 04:53 PM) [snapback]479807[/snapback]
I live in 'leafy' Broomhill, and i'm still a complete cretin. The West End doesn't make you soft. I agree there are a lot of helmets in close proximity though.
The front of my flat was graffitied (I say graffiti, i wee guy wrote his name with a stone) by school weans a few weeks back, with the name 'Elliot' and some other name i couldn't quite make out. There's not enough Tams or Rabs.

I'm beginning to wonder how many of the forum members live in Glasgow!
mortonjag 2008-07-19 14:12:01
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 19 2008, 01:35 PM) [snapback]480230[/snapback]
ill aim better so i get you ph34r.gif

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Do you think I'm some sort of perv lurking in the disabled toilet?

Erm--please keep the answer civilised! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-19 14:15:59
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 18 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]479840[/snapback]
that really is quite funny biggrin.gif

Why?
mortonjag 2008-07-19 14:29:57
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 19 2008, 02:14 PM) [snapback]480240[/snapback]
i meant ill get your toes on the way out:ph34r:

You ARE a naughty man!

QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 19 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]480242[/snapback]
I have a wee feeling that Brian Graham might just murder the third division.

In terms of ability I'd think yes, but don't forget who his 'Manager' will be!
mortonjag 2008-07-19 18:17:36 It's only a game --team one looks more 'complete'-team two is potentially more inventive.

0-0 draw for me! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-19 18:22:07
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 19 2008, 03:36 PM) [snapback]480249[/snapback]
McGurn was beyond hopeless, he made Craig Coyle seem like Gigi Buffon or Iker Casillas.

I'd rather we played Cappie the Cat in goal than McGurn.

HA-I see Chocolate Boy IS returning to his old self. McGurn was not great. McGurn was not too bad. Craig Coyle was a good wee reflex goalie with about as little presence as Robinson but slightly less infantile.
mortonjag 2008-07-19 18:47:13
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jul 14 2008, 05:21 PM) [snapback]477131[/snapback]

Oh c'mon-it COULD be fun!







mortonjag 2008-07-19 20:36:59
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jul 19 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]480299[/snapback]
I haven't seen Stewart yet, but it's quite worrying that a reasonable number of posters seem to think Stewart is worse than Robinson. That said though, "better than we have", if Robinson ends up being what we have, applies to hundreds of people across Scotland. Being better than what you have doesn't really mean much if what you have is utter s***e.
As for McGurn, he was a decent goalie. Not perfect by any means, but he had his moments, and by no means "hopeless". I think he was poorly treated by being expected to be the goalkeeper coach, despite being young himself. He would have benefited massively if he was under the tutelage of a guy like Wylie.

I first saw him against Ayr and thought he looked quite solid. In the two subsequent matches he's seemed to lack concentration more than anything else.
mortonjag 2008-07-19 20:49:48 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I was actually expecting something horrific!
mortonjag 2008-07-20 07:03:51
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jul 19 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]480349[/snapback]
Good post Colkitto, verging on the 'positive' so please be careful - doesn't go well on this , the Leonard Cohen of messageboards. Makes a refreshing change from the doom mongers " It's gonnae be a looooong season"patter. As Brian says.......... Aberdeen/Peterhead .
I agree that the injury situation is a concern , but overall I'm optimistic.

Mon the 'ton ...........onward and upwards !

HEY CLOTH EARS-you're outed-I'm NOT having it this time around-you are just another

AGENT PROVOCATEUR



Tonsilitis has made an extremely valid point-none of the subsequent posts could be described as other than realisitic-at worst some could be argued to be constructively critical, and in you sidle with the BORING 'old hat' about 'doom mongers'.


It's EXACTLY the same as this time last season-folk who haven't a positive thought in their own heads accuse realists of 'negativity' only to be proved wrong in the final event. I LOVE wub.gif reminding folk that this time last year over 75% of posters HAD FULL CONFIDENCE IN JM's ABILITY. rolleyes.gif


THAT is a measure of the endemic myopia of this pubic massage board- where are you now folks? happy.gif You all disappeared like snow off a dyke- cowards and fools that you were! thumbdown.gif

Those of us gifted with a modicum of intelligence and perception-particularly those of us who have spent our lives observing symptoms and signs and instituting early remedy-can see that not all is well.

Excuses will always be just that-last years JM apologists appear simply to have changed hats. There's still a LOT required before the squad can ever be anything like 'complete'

Time to wake up and smell the coffee, cloth ears. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 08:50:33
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jul 19 2008, 09:12 PM) [snapback]480332[/snapback]
The wage increases for Greacen, Harding and co were pathetic. In no way do players who have played crap for the last year deserve a new contract, let along an improved one.

We would have been better of letting them go and using that money to sign someone better. And that wouldn't be very difficult based on their performances for the majority of the past season.

I couldn't agree more-by all means we could have kept them on short contracts with their income largely tied to performance bonuses. It sends out the wrong messages to others at the club too.

QUOTE(Savo @ Jul 20 2008, 02:30 AM) [snapback]480387[/snapback]
Yes.

There is open bewilderment/incredulity within the game at what ocurred earlier in the close season at Cappielow with regard to a couple of particular contract extensions at our club.

I strongly suspect this has been Sugar Daddy at work again. He's a f*cking nightmare-siding with his chosen 'boys' to the general detriment of the Club. The 'Cowboy' fiasco was a classical example of 'Daddy DOESN'T know best'. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 08:57:11
QUOTE(Jimsimpson11 @ Jul 18 2008, 06:23 PM) [snapback]479837[/snapback]
3 Bedroom top flat in Kestrel Place. Quiet wee cul-de-sac. Just been decorated throughout, excellent view over Gourock and across the Clyde. Fixed Price �68,000. If anyones interested and wants to come up and have a look around send me a PM. Cheers Liam rolleyes.gif




Sorry mate-I have my eye on a TWO bedroom flat with views of the neighbours across the street shagging. It's just over three times the price! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 09:02:40
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jul 19 2008, 11:32 PM) [snapback]480364[/snapback]
Another dig at Dougie ! You saying he wouldn't pay the money for a marksman and hired a cowboy to do the job ?

Shokkin' !

He actually sacked the cowboy and hired a 'consummate professional'! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

It WAS a genuine nightmare BTW! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 09:05:47
QUOTE(mmm beer @ Jul 20 2008, 08:06 AM) [snapback]480397[/snapback]
I happened to measure my BP the other day and am slightly concerned about the results. While my left arm seems to be almost ideal at around 120/75 my right arm ranges from 125 to 135 on the upper scale and can be as low as 60 on the lower scale, giving me a pulse pressure of around 70 sometimes (which is high).

At 40, apart from alcohol at the weekend, I should be the ideal candidate not to have a problem with blood pressure.

Anyway, anyone care to share?

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mortonjag 2008-07-20 09:21:00 Following on the excellently non ageist response to the Helen Mirren thread, mortonjag extends a welcome to any interested parties.


mortonjag 2008-07-20 09:28:26
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 20 2008, 09:06 AM) [snapback]480412[/snapback]
I had the weirdest of dreams last night.

I dreamt that Dundee put 5 past us at Dens, not sure if they scored again after I woke up.

The scary thing is our 1st fixture against them is at Dens!!!

I'll be very surprised if anybody puts more than four past us this coming season.

There again I'm a negative c*nt! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 10:46:40
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jul 20 2008, 09:34 AM) [snapback]480419[/snapback]
With the initial signings I thought that we were beginning to look good but after seeing some of the "friendlies" (I know that a lot of trialists were involved) but it was obvious that there was no one with flair who could deliver a telling pass and supply our strikers with scoring opportunities. I thought (silly old me) that it would have been an ideal opportunity for DI to give his most gifted player "Jamie" a chance (albeit a final one) to show what he has to offer. It is the managers job to get the best (by whatever means some need a friendly arm round the shoulder others need a kick up the a**e) from the players under his control. It seems to me that DI has written off Jamie and I think that a great shame.

I'm not going to criticise DI on this, as I don't know the background story. It's perfectly clear, however, that nobody in our existing squad has his natural playmaking ability. I've said also, we're going to miss Midge.
mortonjag 2008-07-20 11:06:27 Those?
mortonjag 2008-07-20 11:24:36
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jul 20 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]480416[/snapback]
hmm, that photo reminds me of a lassie i had a wee fumble wi when i was 15.
Did you hang about St.Stephens in 1997 wub.gif

I hung about several schools!
mortonjag 2008-07-20 11:46:11
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 20 2008, 11:05 AM) [snapback]480436[/snapback]
Irons is quoted in the NotW today saying that a deal should be struck in the next couple of days to bring back Lee for the season.

HMM! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 11:52:01
QUOTE(mmm beer @ Jul 20 2008, 09:36 AM) [snapback]480420[/snapback]
Really. I joined a new gym and they had an orientation at which they did a few measurements one of which was blood pressure in both arms. First time I've have my blood pressure taken since I can remember. It was the women who did the test who got me worried as I didn't even know what my numbers should be.

Differential results between the two arms is entirely normal. Sphygmomanometry is a science best left to those properly trained.

I'd accept your values as entirely normal, and get your G.P. to check next time you can be arsed!
mortonjag 2008-07-20 11:58:49
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jul 20 2008, 11:48 AM) [snapback]480451[/snapback]

TUVM_TTFN
mortonjag 2008-07-20 12:07:22
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 20 2008, 08:31 AM) [snapback]480400[/snapback]
Looking for a bar that'll still be open around the 1amish mark, this Friday morning, in the City that I can enjoy a pint or two in.

Not sure if The Toll Booth, at Glasgow X, is a 24hr but most morning when I go to work it's open.

There's quite a few Tim Shops around that area but again not sure if any are open 24hrs.

Anyone help ??

Only the hotels seems to have 24 hour licences, but it's the Glesga Fair so I'd imagine quite a few popular pubs will have applied for late licences.
mortonjag 2008-07-20 13:03:25
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jul 20 2008, 12:54 PM) [snapback]480467[/snapback]
I think the problem is that too many companies have such an internal view of things that they think it would be impossible to make external hire's for any senior positions.

As such those who have been there the longest and understand how the politics works can generally get promotions way beyond their abilities.

Also remember the old addage that people get promoted to their level of incompetence. Basically if you are good at a job you can get a promotion. If you are good at that you get a promotion etc. Only when you are not good at a job you stay there, rather than get a demotion.

Nothing to do with big tits, arse licking, shagging, religion, colour, who you know etc!
mortonjag 2008-07-20 13:10:56
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 20 2008, 01:02 PM) [snapback]480471[/snapback]
Great shame about his attitude as he undoubtedly has talent. If he gets his head sorted there might still be room for him at Cappielow but I would doubt if he can. Tigers and stripes and all that! Is'nt it amazing how many highly talented people in all walks of life not just football, can't use their talent to the full because their head gets in the way!!

Does anyone know what the financial deal is when a player goes on loan? I presume its agreed that the receiving club pays a proportion of his wages and we remain stuck with the rest. So if he was getting say £750 pw (and I have no idea what he gets!!) and Alloa paid part time money of maybe £350 per week, we are still stuck with the rest? Presumably the negotiation relates to what element of wages will be paid by the receiving club and the higher the better?

Wasps and stripes?

His attitude at Alloa was second to none so far as I could see. His talent is undoubted. I DON'T believe the damage done under JM could not have been repaired internally mad.gif , but at least he's still available to us.
mortonjag 2008-07-20 13:21:23 No budding surgeons among us! laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 15:33:44
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 20 2008, 01:45 PM) [snapback]480483[/snapback]
Not Rae's doing from what I've heard.

So somebody else did it behind the old Shooglemeister's back? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 15:41:20
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 20 2008, 03:35 PM) [snapback]480554[/snapback]
I hear it was Irons. All down to him sad.gif

I'd need clarification. It's easy for Shoogly to sanction (even order) something and then sit back allowing others to take the responsibility.

I frankly don't believe that DI said to him, 'I'm giving 33% rises and long contracts to x, y, and z, when in the same breath he was claiming that players couldn't be signed until 'the Chairman got some money back on folk he wanted released'.

NOPE-doesn't make any sense. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 15:57:36
QUOTE(Andy M @ Jul 20 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]480503[/snapback]
We are now inviting people to sponsor these webcasts. Please send me a PM detailing which match you want to sponsor and a note of your PALTALK ID and I'll annotate the fixture with your paltalk id. We really need as many sponsors as we can get as the costs this season will be higher than last season. We will also accept multiple sponsors for each Webcast.

Season tickets at £20 or more are also available by sending your donation to MortonWebcasts@hotmail.com.

July
Threave Rovers
Tow Law Town
Durham City
Dumbarton
Stranraer ........................................... Fixture cancelled

August
Clyde
Dundee
Airdrie United ....................................... Sponsored by Exiled Scot. Thank you !

September
Partick Thistle

October
Ross County ......................................... Sponsored by MortonJag. Thank You !

November
Livingston
Queen of the South
Dunfermline Athletic

December
St. Johnstone
Airdrie United

January
Dundee

February
Clyde
Partick Thistle

March
Queen of the South
Ross County

April
Livingston
Dunfermline

May
St. Johnstone ....................................... Sponsored by Exiled Scot. Thank you !

Please note that any AWAY cup fixtures will be added to this list as and when they become available.

Andy-I'll hand you over the £100 in person at the first official home game.
mortonjag 2008-07-20 16:04:42
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 20 2008, 02:02 PM) [snapback]480487[/snapback]
Fake, fake, you can see the editing and what a bizzare ending. Where the f*** did Osama come from unsure.gif

jag, do you think I have what it takes to become a surgeon, I am eating my dinner watching that bollocks (I'll get my coat) ph34r.gif

TBH, the guy may well have killed himself three days later for such a pathetic attempt at a spoof!

I loved the bit where he shelled his bollocks out like peas from a pod. Anybody with the most basic anatomical knowledge knows that's a total impossibility, and where was the blood? You shouldn't have been able to see ANYTHING for blood! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 16:09:04
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 20 2008, 02:17 PM) [snapback]480494[/snapback]
What's the fat bit round the clitoris called ??
THE WIFE !!!

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mortonjag 2008-07-20 16:19:18 It's peculiar that some folk (not necessarily on this thread) have a seemingly insatiable desire to put the boot in as soon as a player leaves. For them, it's always black or white.

It wasn't Stevenson's 'bad attitude' which dealt him a nasty injury last season. It wasn't Stevenson's 'bad attitude' which saw him save Alloa from relegation almost single handedly.

Plenty of very successful players have had 'bad attitudes' sorted out by experienced managers.
mortonjag 2008-07-20 16:37:45
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 20 2008, 04:34 PM) [snapback]480577[/snapback]
Since his quote in the papers after the Clyde game, I have been more than open about my unliking of the guy.

Now if he was to buy me a pint or 4 rolleyes.gif

How about two? blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 16:44:21 Dr and Mrs Mortonjag are happy to announce the graduation of their two sons-Monkey-Dalglish Mortonjag, and Fing Mortonjag at Oxford University on 18th July 2008.

Munx has taken a 'first' in Divinity, while Fing has completed his Masters in Applied Weaponry.

No good wishes or flowers please.
mortonjag 2008-07-20 16:58:25
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 20 2008, 04:50 PM) [snapback]480585[/snapback]
Don't they look 'Cute' all dressed up blush.gif


Yes-we are SO proud! smile.gif
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 20 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]480587[/snapback]
Which colleges in Oxford they graduate from?

Proper colleges, young man! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 17:02:55
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 20 2008, 04:39 PM) [snapback]480583[/snapback]
Depends on if he is in a good mood ph34r.gif



QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 20 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]480586[/snapback]
Which folk are these?

Quite.
I agree totally (only the manager doesn't necessarily have to be "experienced" - Unai Emery in Spain is renowned as a great man-manager and he's in his thirties.) But it didn't happen at Mallorca and it didn't happen here, so there's little point in crying over spilt milk.

Of course I would much rather have seen him flourish at Morton, but he didn't, and there's little prospect of his doing so. Good riddance to him.



QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 20 2008, 04:59 PM) [snapback]480594[/snapback]
I concor

Shades of the comments made by another poster about Derek Collins-and he's NOT even left us? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 17:05:06
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 20 2008, 05:03 PM) [snapback]480596[/snapback]
Who are you calling a Pouffe tongue.gif

Willy Man WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A POUFFE!
mortonjag 2008-07-20 17:06:04
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 20 2008, 05:04 PM) [snapback]480597[/snapback]
...which are....? wink.gif

absolutely NONE of your business. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 17:07:44
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 20 2008, 04:54 PM) [snapback]480589[/snapback]
Spammers.

Hammers
mortonjag 2008-07-20 17:09:15 Count me in-I'm already up for it.
mortonjag 2008-07-20 17:13:50
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 20 2008, 03:26 PM) [snapback]480548[/snapback]
i wouldnt argue with the second bit. tongue.gif
laugh.gif i think i will about 7ish, when i go over to my friends to try and piece together what the hell happened last night. Bad enough i can hardly walk because my legs are sore, but the fact im sitting here shivvering because of my hangover really doesn't help either.

I'm just glad i got to see Vikington wrecked, that was one of those moments you always wish you'll see but you never really think its going to happen. laugh.gif He didn't say a word for the first two hours but give him a drink and he doesn't shut up.

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QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 20 2008, 04:19 PM) [snapback]480569[/snapback]
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i think having a face the same color as your t-shirt is a really good look to be fair. Apologies as i was pretty far gone by this point as you can tell by the face laugh.gif
edit to add: i've never had sunburn in my life before yesterday.

You're MUCH more attractive with your clothes off! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 17:15:04
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 20 2008, 05:12 PM) [snapback]480607[/snapback]
Erm..no, am homophobic

Not what midTONs told me!
mortonjag 2008-07-20 17:31:47
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 20 2008, 05:17 PM) [snapback]480613[/snapback]
he can tell you whatever, its up to you if you believe it or not. Some of the stories he tells me about you are scary, but I'll make my own mind up.. tongue.gif

laugh.gif

He DIDN'T tell you the one about the pumpkin? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 17:37:27 I've never had a 'boss' in the true sense of the word. My partner's boss (known as plookheid) is a complete nincompoop, who seems to see herself as a Primary School teacher in charge of little children when in fact the only wean is herself!

She keeps trying to organise 'nights out'-largely because she's desperate for a man, and they all say 'yes' until the last day or so-then cancel for various reasons! thumbup2.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 17:39:37
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 20 2008, 05:37 PM) [snapback]480620[/snapback]
Is that your pet name for midTONs unsure.gif

NOPE-his pet name for my knob.
mortonjag 2008-07-20 17:41:58
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 20 2008, 03:15 PM) [snapback]480537[/snapback]
I know its a few months away, but I thought I'd let you all know that we have a Stripper's Night planned for the 25th Oct.

Giving plenty of notice, so that some can arrange leave from work etc. I have placed it in here so that most partners don't see it, incase your using the old, am away out to play pool, or just a few beers with the lads, honest dear...

Darroch Bar(upstairs), free buffet if anyone is interested. Tickets prices to be announce nearer the time...

Please note that there are no private rooms available in the Darroch, just the toilets.


Will any of those those strippers be male?
mortonjag 2008-07-20 18:12:52
QUOTE(irnbru @ Jul 20 2008, 05:51 PM) [snapback]480625[/snapback]
I was just looking for a decent match report as no one seems to have actually spoke in any depth about the game as yet!

I'll get to see myself the state of thing myself for the first time this season on Saturday, but from what I've read it may not be a lot to look forward to...

The fact that nobody posted a match report says it all. At the end of the game my brother and I couldn't pick a MOTM, so we opted for Wakey-purely for his first half effort-good holding up/laying off play and a couple of deft touches for a big man. Kev was non existent. Jamie was a bit better than against Hartlepool, and had one good shot, but not much else. LEAFY and Newbs did a lot of good running but no real joy. As for the midfield TO A MAN they seemed to be stirring porridge. CONSTANTLY wanted rid of the ball-almost like DI had said 'don't get injured'! The only player who tried to run with the ball near the end was the right back trialist (Reid I believe), and indeed the defence was mainly trialists with Spoonsy making a not particularly good job of marshalling them.
Stewart wasn't troubled that much but still contrived to make five or six totally unforced errors!

In the last twenty minutes or so Dumbarton strung together three or four attacking moves, and were perhaps a bit unlucky not to score. One of those moves up the left was by far the best of the match and deserved better.

Oh-and I forgot to mention our goal. Masterton hit a low hard free to the keeper's left-he spilled it in the slippy conditions and McGuffie netted from close in.

I've probably missed a lot as I wasn't watching that closely to be honest! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 18:18:06
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 20 2008, 05:48 PM) [snapback]480624[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI have a 'skeleton' knob which will open any back door.
mortonjag 2008-07-20 19:05:45
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jul 20 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]480635[/snapback]
in all seriousness i do think MJ has a wife and 2 kids
under the floorboards...

In the cellar.
mortonjag 2008-07-20 19:08:43
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jul 20 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]480633[/snapback]
The thing that annoys me most about Peter is that he is a good player and that he could be useful to us if he actually put the effort in. As it is he is an unfit liability and a disgrace to the jersey. He is without a doubt a better player than Wake, but at least Wake puts in a good shift and is looking to score goals - can you say the same about Peter in the second half of last season.

Also Peter scored 9 League Goals last season, only one more than Ian Russell who everyone says is not good enough. As much as Wake is probably not the answer, neither is Peter. We really need to sign another striker imo.

Before wingers, full backs, and a second goalie?
mortonjag 2008-07-20 19:10:34
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 20 2008, 07:01 PM) [snapback]480641[/snapback]
Although we should offer Jim a long term deal, with a get clause in case he gets injured.

WHY?
mortonjag 2008-07-20 19:13:09
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 20 2008, 07:10 PM) [snapback]480648[/snapback]
We ain't got a playmaker either. sad.gif

We have quite a lot of big boys though! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 20:47:16
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 20 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]480653[/snapback]
I've never even concerned myself with where he came from. ph34r.gif

How can u rate an upturned turtle like Craig Coyle yet bemoan the return of Robinson? I'm the first to admit he was honking when he came but the improvement in his game was marked towards the end of the season and the goalkeeping position is the least of my concerns now.

What DOES concern me FAR more is the lack of full backs, lack of wingers, lack of pace, lack of creativity, lack of depth, lack of left footer....mad.gif

Robinson clearly has ability, but he appears very immature. His unpredictability and showman shenanigans pissed me off!

I'd have him back OK as an understudy to a solid experienced first keeper, especially with Wylie's tutelage on tap. The worry is that Stewart may not fill the bill, and we end up with two 'unreliable' stoppers.
mortonjag 2008-07-20 20:50:29
QUOTE(johnston @ Jul 20 2008, 07:46 PM) [snapback]480660[/snapback]
Serious question,which colleges did they graduate from?.

Serious answer-you'll have to ask them. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 20:57:36
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 20 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]480683[/snapback]
Not the first quack to do that. unsure.gif

Though he might have been fitted up.

Clicky

The jury took just 27 minutes to convict Crippen. Yet the homeopathic practitioner was unrepentant to the end.

Bloody homophobes! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 21:00:15
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 20 2008, 08:48 PM) [snapback]480678[/snapback]
could it be he was given a budget to do what he wanted with and we signed 4 guys, gave 2 guys huge raises, re signed 2 others and with room to sign 2 more, however if he wanted more budget than that he would have to release more staff.

It could indeed, and if that is what happened it makes Mr Irons look VERY silly. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 21:04:40 Question is-would I give up supporting the TON for £1 million?

As the actress said to the bishop-that's a hard one.
mortonjag 2008-07-20 21:09:35
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 20 2008, 09:04 PM) [snapback]480691[/snapback]
he will live and die in this job for his choices

Oh dear-I hope you're not suggesting he has a rapidly developing terminal illness!
mortonjag 2008-07-20 21:19:09 I'll start with our new boy, Newby! (aka Newbs)

A striker and Scouser named Newbs
Had bollocks like wee cola cubes
He pled with the surgeon
'My wife's still a virgin'
And now has a fanny and boobs.
mortonjag 2008-07-20 21:35:32 Young Robinson's ginger and macho
He'd sure be 'The Tom' in a cat show
It's all just a spoof
He's really a pouffe
Who's serviced twice weekly by Nach0
mortonjag 2008-07-20 21:43:05
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 20 2008, 09:35 PM) [snapback]480708[/snapback]
Got the typical email from the offering £1 deals. Usually you can never get the dates you want for £1, but amazingly I checked the dates the misses is off during Sept and got a family of 4 to Rome, on return flights for £8 including taxes...

Not bad eh...

There offer ends tonight if anyone elase is planning a trip..

Anyone got any tips for visiting Rome?

Don't bother seeing the Pope-they all look the same.
mortonjag 2008-07-20 21:44:28
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 20 2008, 09:43 PM) [snapback]480719[/snapback]
"Serviced?" You're not off by far
I touched not his knob but his car
He drives in a Metro
Thus he's really quite hetero
But Jag owners leave bangles ajar



Young Harding is balding and plooky
And recently bought a Suzuki
It's tight in the back
But he soon got the knack
Of giving big Greacen his nookie.
mortonjag 2008-07-20 22:08:24
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 20 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]480723[/snapback]
While we're typing s***e on computers
"Leafy" Russell is out on his scooter
The ladies all flash
And proffer their gash
But is that what he wants of a suitor? ohmy.gif



LEAFY'S little Lambretta's a fake
He's really a pouffe on the make
His new Subaru
Is the true place to screw
With his knob half way up Brian Wake
mortonjag 2008-07-21 07:22:20
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 20 2008, 09:32 PM) [snapback]480702[/snapback]
http://www.gmfc.net/club-news/news-view.asp?id=340

Does anyone know a reason for this? Obviously the club won't tell The Enemy (i.e. fans/customers) but maybe someone has an inkling?

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mortonjag 2008-07-21 07:24:12
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 20 2008, 11:29 PM) [snapback]480778[/snapback]
I notice midTONs aint denying anything posted on this thread laugh.gif

Immodest queen.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 07:36:15
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 20 2008, 11:52 PM) [snapback]480803[/snapback]
The black guy, coloured is considered racist now.


Black is surely a colour-FFS what is this bloody world coming to, AND tell me this --if there are 100 whites and one black in a room, am I allowed to say 'the OTHER' chap'? JESUSSSSS
[quote name='cornbeef'
In fact Thornton is on the money- if you mean black , say black. Coloured is regarded as 'offensive' I don't necessarily agree with this but what the hey blink.gif

[/quote

Is it OK then to say of a quick glimpse of a room that it contained people of many colours? dry.gif dry.gif dry.gif .

...or is one forbidden to attempt to describe them....'Erm, the room was full of people, 'Your Honour'........'Describe them please'............... 'Erm, they all seemed to be col....Erm one might have been black, but they were definitely not of a white colour--some seemed blacker than the lighter brown ones and at least one looked almost orange like when my dad died of jaundice....I'm certain there were no green ones, and they say the Chinese are yellow, so the one with the very slanty eyes was probably yellow, though I'd have described her as more of an antique peuce'. mad.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 07:46:18 I have abstained. The only guy who impressed a bit was the big pony tailed centre back who was of a blackish colour. Indeed, he might have been pure black, though ebony may be an exaggeration.

Anyway the big black (coloured) centre back was pretty good. especially in the second half against Hartlepool. Goodness, he may even have the makings of a 'quality player'. Trouble is we don't need a centre back as a priority. maybe JM could play him on the right wing!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

The rest-the ones of variable hues-mainly keech IMO.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 07:48:07
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 21 2008, 07:46 AM) [snapback]480835[/snapback]
maybe thats because midTONs hadn't saw any of it.

Maybe it is! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 07:54:14
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 20 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]480450[/snapback]
I have 'White Coat Syndrom' am told' so any reading I have taking by a doctor/nurse etc is high.
And before anyone says am talking pish, am sure MJ can confirm 'White Coat Syndrom' is true

I had one of those 24hrs test recently and ma blood pressure was fine... am looking good for 80-90 years +

Spot on-and it's not just the 'white coat'. You might equally describe is as 'Big Tit syndrome', or whatever you like.

Proper measurement of blood pressure is a specialised science, and requires repeated measurements both in the standing and reclining positions, often recorded from both arms and legs, and after significant relaxation.

An isolated BP reading is about as reliable as choosing the Grand National winner using a pin.

Having said that, I'd confidently suggest that JM's blood pressure rarely rose above 47/21 mm Hg.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 08:03:19
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 20 2008, 10:18 PM) [snapback]480743[/snapback]
And I saw you and got totally blanked sad.gif



He 'Deeceed you'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 08:05:17
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 20 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]480757[/snapback]
Hello.

When talking to someone are you able to look them in the eye?

Only if he is monocular.

QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 20 2008, 11:16 PM) [snapback]480770[/snapback]
You should always look people in the eye, unless you have something to hide?? unsure.gif Or the person you are talking to is a short arse. ph34r.gif

People who can't look me in the eyes are usually scared to go to x-rated films.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 08:11:04
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 20 2008, 11:51 PM) [snapback]480798[/snapback]
So why did you vote YES on the Helen Mirren thread unsure.gif

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I have seen a VERY few women in their seventies who were arguably still sexually desirable.

I find the young blonde carbon copy 'shag me' wannabes who plague modern society a complete turn off.

Women peak sexually around forty-FACT.

There is much more to an enjoyable sexual experience than sticking your knob up some random hole.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 08:21:29
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 20 2008, 11:17 PM) [snapback]480771[/snapback]
There's a big Ton player called Walker
In fact he's not much of a talker
He runs like a bender, which ain't good for a defender
Plus his heading is iffy and out of sorts
But that doesn't matter, cause Shoogly wants into his shorts.



Spurtle-our pubic massage board's own Morrisey!! wub.gif

Surely Ryan McGuffie's one of the easiest names to 'Limerick'!

Buffy, Duffy, huffy, puffy, toughy, etc.

Our invisible player's McGuffie
He certainly isn't a toughie
He seems quite aloof
Which is strange for a pouffe
Who's frequently humped big Jim Duffy.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 08:41:47
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jul 21 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]480843[/snapback]
Please note, result from this Poll may be completely ignored...
  1. Live Is Life - Na na na na na
  2. Insomnia - Faithless, used most of last season.
  3. Roll With It - Oasis, used a couple of times.
  4. A N Other - Suggestions?
Sorry, seem to have buggered up the Poll bit! rolleyes.gif
BRIAN, are you busy? wink.gif



In my solitary concession to Shooglyphilia-please play the old Nana his choon.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 08:45:41
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jul 21 2008, 08:30 AM) [snapback]480844[/snapback]
My brother and I banged a Mother/Daughter combo in Turkey a few years ago.
I was about 25, brother 21.
I shagged the daughter who was 48... blink.gif

That's pretty impressive!

Are you sure they were telling the truth about their ages-Turks are renowned liars. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 08:51:47 Now that you are creeping towards your mid twenties you will almost certainly be starting to appreciate the wisdom of older people! blush.gif

The Monkey and Fing send good wishes! thumbup2.gif drink.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 09:03:26
LABOUR hit the streets of Glasgow East over the weekend as activists banged on 20,000 doors in a final effort to shore up the party's vote.
But Labour's campaign managers seemed keen to play down expectations on the size of victory they expect despite a poll over the weekend suggesting they had 52 per cent support in the constituency as against 35 per cent for the SNP. They suggested that the final gap might be much tighter.

By contrast, Alex Salmond, the First Minister and SNP leader, was still predicting "a political earthquake" with his party winning in what was Labour's 25th safest seat as he brought in four more high-profile backers including veteran Clydeside trade unionist Jimmy Reid, now a member of the SNP.

But apart from the SNP, political opponents were privately conceding that Labour will probably win the crucial by-election, suggesting the party was deliberately playing down expectations to nullify the effect of a much-reduced majority from the 13,500 lead they enjoyed in 2005.

A Conservative campaign insider said: "It's a classic damage limitation exercise by Labour. Alex Salmond has played into their hands by raising expectations of an SNP victory. Labour will hope a win is good enough, even though in reality a much-reduced majority in a safe seat is a disaster for them."

The claim was denied by a spokesman for Labour's candidate, Margaret Curran.

"What we are saying is that the only poll that matters is the one on Thursday," he said.

In a television interview over the weekend, Mr Salmond insisted his party was on the verge of a historic victory and reminded viewers that the Glasgow East seat is safer than that of Gordon Brown's own constituency, Kirkcaldy.

He also seized on weekend reports of chaos and dispirited workers within the Labour by-election campaign team.

One of the campaign organisers, Martin Rhodes, was quoted as describing Mr Brown's leadership as "disappointing" and as saying the result would be "scarily close".

Mr Salmond said: "The Labour campaign is in chaos. Our campaign is optimistic and upbeat. I'm optimistic, upbeat, and the earthquake is on the way. The ground in Glasgow East is shuddering."

SNP activists yesterday delivered 10,000 letters from Mr Reid, explaining why voters should switch to the Nationalists.

Meanwhile, the actors Martin Compston and David Hayman joined the artist Peter Howson in declared their backing for the SNP.

Despite the importance of the by-election, which could see Mr Brown forced to quit as party leader if Labour lose, the party's campaign manager, Scotland Office minister David Cairns, said activists were in good spirits.

"We will be pounding the streets relentlessly from now until 9:55pm on Thursday night," he said.

"We are in very good spirits – we set a target on Friday night to knock on 20,000 doors, and we are well over half way.

"The reception is genuinely really good. You get a bit of apathy, as you always do, but we don't think our vote is collapsing – far from it."

Bookmakers still have Labour as the clear favourite to win the by-election, with William Hill quoting a Labour victory at 2/5 and Ladbrokes quoting the party at 4/11.

But the biggest move in the odds has been towards the Conservatives, who came fourth in 2005 and had just 7 per cent support in the most recent opinion poll. Their odds have been slashed from 100/1 to 33/1.




OH DEAR- I effin despise that weasel witch Curran -I want her humped rid raw, and of COURSE, I want an SNP victory, but why does that tumshie lantern faced buffoon always sicken me with his smug arrogance.

Truth is, the only comfort to me if Labour win as predicted will be the belly laugh I'll have at his next piece of spun keech. thumbdown.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 10:07:32
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jul 21 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]480861[/snapback]
FFS, what do you expect him to say? That Labour are going to win? You wouldn't get Davy Irons sending out a Morton team with a prediction that "we're going to lose". Even if he doesn't actually believe that the SNP is going to win this by-election, of course he is going to be positive. Oh, and have a look at the keech David Cairns is coming out with about the Labour vote holding up.

The fact of the matter is that unless Labour get a majority pretty close to their 13500 previous majority, they have lost. They may send that shrieking harridan Curran to Westminster, where she will be totally invisible, but in reality it looks like Labour have lost the battle whoever gets returned. They woud consider a one vote margin as a triumph in one of their safest seats.

Oh, and note how the incapacity benefit reforms are being held back until after the election, although as they have been leaked it may have an effect on the vote anyway. Typical Labour control freakery.

Well, not according to William Hill. He seems to think one vote will be enough to wipe the smirk of Bawheid's coupon.

.......and I DO agree with everything you say about Labour!
mortonjag 2008-07-21 10:09:21
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 21 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]480872[/snapback]
Genuine.

A genuine short arse?
mortonjag 2008-07-21 10:10:54
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jul 21 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]480854[/snapback]
They were Geordies, renowned slappers, they were very attractive tho...and we shouldn't have taken a drag of the big self rolled cigarrette the barman gave us... smile.gif

One of the hotel staff served my bruvs boxers on a silver salver to him at breakfast, they found them in the pool that morning!



So he actually made a hash of it? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 10:14:42
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jul 21 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]480876[/snapback]
Our new man in charge is D.I
Caught hanging out Gillians pie
His arse Dougie reemed
As he read out the team
And mid table they all waved goodbye

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


We once had a player named Cannie
(I'd rather have fielded my Granny)
He stayed in the job
By ramming his knob
Up Gillian Donaldson's fanny.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 10:21:08
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Jul 21 2008, 10:13 AM) [snapback]480884[/snapback]
A degree course a few f*nn**s on here could take and no doubt pass with distinction

Possibly! Fing has been working on a new laser nail gun which is so accurate it can ignite a match head from 500 metres.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 10:36:29
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 21 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]480895[/snapback]
It's a sad day when I can't motivate myself for a St Mirren game. 20 years following Morton and my enthusiasm for the club's at an all time low. sad.gif


Indeed-when the 'feel good factor' was there, I used to go to evening reserve games.Now the whole thing's become something of a penance at times.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 10:41:10
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 21 2008, 10:35 AM) [snapback]480905[/snapback]
Btw LAS did you notice their Gowns....colour looks very similar to a "non-real yooni" I felt. Don't you agree? wink.gif

I do hope you are not calling my children's integrity into question.

I will not-I REPEAT-WILL NOT have anybody question my children's integrity. This matter will not be resolved until I have met you face to face. Next you'll be calling them POUFFES I'd imagine. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 10:45:56
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 21 2008, 10:43 AM) [snapback]480920[/snapback]
I'm certain he was.
FIGHT !!! FIGHT !!! FIGHT !!! FIGHT !!! FIGHT !!!

He's just a jealous little man who can't cope with PROPER education, because he got some kind of jumped up counting award from the tech! angel.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 10:46:59
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 21 2008, 10:42 AM) [snapback]480919[/snapback]
He will probably have loads of visitors now, same as Big Blue Jugs. rolleyes.gif

She's been awfy quiet! huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 11:08:05
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Jul 21 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]480944[/snapback]
It sure does, and the fact that there is no trim suggests that they graduated without honours...

Jealousy is such a sad attribute! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 13:54:28
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Jul 21 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]480988[/snapback]
What is the point in this post? Just a waste of my retinas

Retinae.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 13:56:20
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 21 2008, 11:57 AM) [snapback]480983[/snapback]
Good concentration is one of the key qualities you need in a keeper.

Which is why I'm now having doubts!
mortonjag 2008-07-21 13:59:55
QUOTE(stubaws @ Jul 21 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]481014[/snapback]
im exactly the same, st mirren game is always around my birthday (today btw thumbup2.gif ) and i just cant be arsed with it at all this year. not been to any preseason, away on holiday for the first game and probably go on another holiday later in august so miss more games - unheard of as little as 3 years ago! the renfrewshire cup game now embarasses me coz i realise how far behind them we are currently. the lack of 'quality' signings after all the promises these past few years is really pissing me off now. i realise dundee have a bigger budget than us but even the signing of lauchlan on a one year deal could be a great piece of business, wheras we have harding and greacan on new 3 year deals with a hefty pay rise thumbdown.gif

Only one man to blame! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 21 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]481016[/snapback]
Down to a tee how I feel, mate.

We should be competing with Dundee, not looking up at them in awe. dry.gif

EXACTLY.

Those who have staunchly supported Rae against all critisism, AND subjected wiser people to much abuse in the process, are progressively looking dafter and dafter! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 14:07:01
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 21 2008, 01:03 PM) [snapback]481036[/snapback]
yes but the amount of money they can make inside in the lounges etc dwarfs what we can make.

Their overall potential is dwarfed by ours. That makes the relative situations doubly sad.

I don't give a f*ck about St Mirren-I DON'T hate them because others say I should, and I don't love them either. I join in the jokes-it's good naughty fun, and that's all it should be IMO.

So good luck to the AIDS ravaged c*nts-let them get on with it. Maybe one day we will WILL achieve something too! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 14:12:08
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 21 2008, 12:46 PM) [snapback]481022[/snapback]
I'm moist at the prospect!

WHERE are the quality players we're getting to supplement our small squad? dry.gif

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QUOTE(Malt @ Jul 21 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]481048[/snapback]
Reid was part of the St Mirren team which won the first division and has played SPL with them and Hibs. He is a full back and experienced which a lot of fans were crying out for. Lets face it Dougie is not putting up the cash and spouts endless rubbish. i.e. going for quality blah blah.

Irons was the one who spoke about quality, but if others are to be believed he squandered his budget on ridiculously long contracts and wage hikes for mediocre players.

As I said, IF others are to be believed!
mortonjag 2008-07-21 14:18:23
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Jul 21 2008, 11:26 AM) [snapback]480970[/snapback]
It is indeed. If only I went to a proper uni rather than a polytechic- what would you say are the proper uni's in Scotland, see what they have on offer.

I'm afraid I'm having a little difficulty in understanding that piece of English prose-I DO get the drift, though.

If I wanted a qualification in a Mickey Mouse subject, I'd imagine I'd choose a Mickey Mouse University or College, and be entirely proud of my Mickey Mouse degree. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 14:40:55
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 21 2008, 02:26 PM) [snapback]481105[/snapback]
Fcking drifters the pair of them then blush.gif

laugh.gif

As I predicted the insulting behaviour is escalating. Within no time you'll be calling them POUFFES and I'll have you banned by the BIG MOD!

Anyway, my perfect children are still on a high after celebrating their massive achievement-they don't care about the comments of jealous little boys. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 14:55:02 Has anybody else come across MAW BROON'S COOKBOOK (published by D C Thomson)-it's highly entertaining and contains excellent traditional recipes.

I've scanned a page-----
mortonjag 2008-07-21 15:01:25
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Jul 21 2008, 02:31 PM) [snapback]481109[/snapback]
No its retina, iv only got one big eye, like cyclops. My finger must have slipped to hit the 's' button when i was trying to press 'a'. Thats what only having one big eye does for you! Cheers for you input though, ya 2 eyed freakshow!


Oh dear-I hope I haven't offended you. Folk often get upset when I offer simple help and advice. 'Retinas' is perfectly acceptable-Mortonjag just prefers the 'proper term'.

With reference to your original post, I imagined that someone who could not understand mine probably wasn't that bright and wouldn't know about 'retinae'!


Always here to help. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 15:04:40
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 21 2008, 02:37 PM) [snapback]481119[/snapback]
FYI....
St Mirren never built their new stadium.

The deal with Tesco was that they'd give them X amount of cash for Love St and into the bargain TESCO would build them an SPL compliant stadium.

Originally this was going to be around the 12,000 mark however when the SPL reduced the seating rule to 6K Tesco reduced the stadium size to 8,400.

Didn't Ms. Alexander lend a little bit of honest assistance too? dry.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 15:12:05
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 21 2008, 02:44 PM) [snapback]481130[/snapback]
Absolutely none as you know.

I just feel there's a helluva lot of negativeness towards the team in general.

Did folk actually expect 9 victories coupled with excellent performances.

Remember this is the same bunch of guys who gave us all a thrilling victory at Firhill only a matter of weeks ago.

The serious stuff doesn't start for a couple of weeks yet and the friendlies have served their purpose, IE: Trying out formations and trialists.

I'm 100% behind DC/DI but by the sounds of things on this board most aren't and all they're doing is basing it on a few daft friendly performances.

I WAS 100% behind them until the last day or so. They are still inexperienced, and I believed they had to be given a chance with LIMITED resources. I suspected that DI's promise of 'a small squad of quality players' had been frustrated by the niggardly old Shooglemeister.

I accepted that DI was making the best of what he could-that his failure to sign 'key' players was indeed down to financial constraints.

Now we're being told that he squandered his budget on huge pay rises and daft contracts for mediocre existing squad members. If so, HELL MEND HIM-a fool and his money are easily parted.

I'd still love to believe that that is not the case.

mortonjag 2008-07-21 15:21:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 21 2008, 03:02 PM) [snapback]481146[/snapback]
Sorry Mrs Rogers ph34r.gif

'Your Majesty' if you please. Is there no limit to your youthful disrespect?
mortonjag 2008-07-21 15:26:06
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 21 2008, 02:56 PM) [snapback]481137[/snapback]
I doubt he will as calling a Monkey a pouffe won't exactly hurt it's feelings.

Now if he was to call your cute children, APES or CHIMPS, they would feel a lot more offended.

For the record I'm not calling them anything bar Monkey-Dalglish Mortonjag, and Fing Mortonjag blush.gif

They're quite happy with simple 'Munx and Fing'. Unlike some posters, they won't let their achievement go to their heads! blush.gif

QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jul 21 2008, 02:59 PM) [snapback]481143[/snapback]
Congratulations to both. The parents must be so proud.

Many thanks Weegie.

QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jul 21 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]481150[/snapback]
I think your monkeys look very smart. smile.gif

Thank Your Majesty-you are gracious as ever. Fing wishes to point out that he is a 'Fing' (a string fing to be precise), and not a monkey like his big brother. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 15:28:45
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jul 21 2008, 03:07 PM) [snapback]481152[/snapback]
I think things have moved on from the days when Margo MacDonald was a youngster.

Labour have moved well to the right (indistinguishable from the "new" Tories IMHO) and the old Labour Party, which was a left wing party with control freak tendencies, no longer exists. Blair used the Labour Party for his own ends, and in doing so he has ensured its demise. It may come back some time but it will take many years to recover. The cracks can no longer be papered over. The vast majority of people now seem to want to give Labour a good kicking because they see how they have been milking the system. Corrupt doesn't bgin to describe it. No doubt the real reason for there even being an election in Glasgow East will come out soon - I note that the Scottish press are giving very little coverage to the pocket-lining that has been going on by the previous incumbent. Pity Glen Campbell didn't press Curran on that matter on the TV debate, although not surprising as he was as biased as a set of lawn bowls.

EXACTLY why I detest Bawheid.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 15:30:57
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 21 2008, 02:35 PM) [snapback]481116[/snapback]
This ok for you?

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI hope your Mum doesn't know you took her fotie.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 16:01:31 I took this while on holiday in Copenhagen-three absolutely gorgeous swedes!
mortonjag 2008-07-21 16:04:19
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 21 2008, 03:52 PM) [snapback]481188[/snapback]
He got the idea from MJ after his confession.

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I never kill my lovers.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 16:06:40
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 21 2008, 03:30 PM) [snapback]481167[/snapback]
divinity? what sort of a pish subject is that. good luck to your thing in its future career in clowning.

I have never attempted to influence my children's choice of career. 'To each his own'!
mortonjag 2008-07-21 16:09:07
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 21 2008, 03:47 PM) [snapback]481184[/snapback]
Can't I just call her mum? wub.gif

No
mortonjag 2008-07-21 16:10:25
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 21 2008, 04:01 PM) [snapback]481196[/snapback]
laugh.gif

Sorry, I have a habit of browsing through people's profiles for no reason. tongue.gif You should see how often I check out your Bebo though. wub.gif
No I can't.

He has a BEBO-Wow-I could cause havoc there! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 16:19:18 It's funny how a Manager's playing days often seem reflected in his perspective of the game. JM believed that a thousand midfield workhorses was all he needed. Now it looks like DI is concentrating on big strong defenders/midfielders while totally ignoring creativity, and 'making do' with Jimbo and Kev as ( laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif) 'wingers'. (Please don't mention anybody except Offiong if you want to make a valid point about worthwhile striker signings)

I've said already-we'll be hard to beat and pure KEECH to watch. I'm still confident of a mid table finish.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 16:24:41
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Jul 21 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]481206[/snapback]
I was just about to say something similar. Except I would have to have done this ph34r.gif after whatever I wrote...

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ph34r.gif

His first degree was in nuclear physics SpoonTon. I believe that in doing Divinity he was trying to come down to earth.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 16:27:56
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 21 2008, 04:22 PM) [snapback]481210[/snapback]

HMM-Stranraer fans obviously USE their official website! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 16:30:14
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jul 21 2008, 04:27 PM) [snapback]481215[/snapback]
Naw biting, anyway my username is WeegieTon.

....and we all know about Willy Man's 'Tea' parties! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 16:31:31
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 21 2008, 04:29 PM) [snapback]481216[/snapback]
Hilarious.

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mortonjag 2008-07-21 18:21:49
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 21 2008, 06:15 PM) [snapback]481280[/snapback]
Can you explain ??

I've 'explained why' umpteen times before-I'm not saying he's inherently worse than any other prominent politician Spurtle-they're all in it for themselves-it's just that Bawheid is also a smug ugly unconvincing creature, in addition to the usual deviousness.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 18:33:43
QUOTE(Marshall_2oo7 @ Jul 21 2008, 06:23 PM) [snapback]481286[/snapback]
Thank god, a bit of positive thinking for a change!

Well here's a comment and you can tell me whether it's positive or not.

I think DI/DC are making a good job of the training and motivation. We are still SADLY lacking in creativity, having NO playmakers, and NO wingers. It is reported that DI blew his budget on daft wage increases and stupidly long contracts. In consequence, I believe we're in for another season of utterly gash football, but will still end up mid table.

I think that is an EXTREMELY NEGATIVE way to treat the paying customer-football's supposed to be about entertainment-NOT 'grinding out results'.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 19:35:25
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jul 21 2008, 06:51 PM) [snapback]481299[/snapback]
Wrong mate - football is about winning... ask any manager worth his salt and he will tell you the first priority is to win the game.

Why should a manager's opinion count more than those who ultimately pay his wages?

QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jul 21 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]481303[/snapback]
Maybe, but precious few people are going to pay money to watch mind-numbingly boring mid-table football.
Frankly I'd rather we finished safely in 7th place and played decent football along the way, than achieving 3rd or 4th Rangers-style, at least it would be worth dragging yourself away from Jeff Stelling & co on the tv.
I sincerely hope there are moves behind the scenes to land a flair player of the McGowan variety even if it's just on loan, as there is bugger all in our squad to excite anyone, apart from Jim McAlister the odd time.

EXACTLY!

QUOTE(mccaff @ Jul 21 2008, 07:25 PM) [snapback]481313[/snapback]
forgive me if im wrong but morton are in the scottish first division, not la liga.

away n fcuk yrselves. i cant remember the last time i was entertained by the quality of football at cappielow. the entertainment comes from the result, or the goals at least.

Naw son-you go and f*ck yourself-I can remember the days when I couldn't WAIT for a Saturday to get to Cappielow.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 19:39:54
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jul 21 2008, 06:49 PM) [snapback]481298[/snapback]
Yes. As it stands we don't have a striker capable of scoring more than 10 goals in a season in this league. Unless we get a striker capable of doing this then we will be in the relegation dogfight, regardless of how many wingers, full backs or keepers we have. Also we hardly need full backs playing 3-5-2.

I FUNDAMENTALLY disagree. That's one of the biggest myths at Cappielow right now. IMO every one of our strikers is capable of ten goals given a decent supply.

WHERE is that going to come from-long throw ins from Pantaloons, punts up the park, and the occasional well directed 'free' from Masterton.


WHAT ELSE! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 19:50:49
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 21 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]481289[/snapback]
In what way is he innit for himself ? I'm confused blink.gif

In the sense that he's an effin politician-he's not exactly St. bloody Francis of Assisi.

Let me put it this way-do you think sweet little Ms. Curran is 'in it' for the good people of Bridgeton, Barrowfield, Lilybank, and Parkhead, living-as she does- with her equally well heeled hubby in their Newlands mansion?

I really think it is YOU who has to explain in what way your hero is NOT in it for himself. How does he differ from the rest of the pond life which makes up politics? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 19:54:32
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 21 2008, 06:34 PM) [snapback]481294[/snapback]
Not even with kindness? ph34r.gif

Well there was that old goat up in Peterhead-horny as f*ck he was, and KEPT asking for more.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 19:56:24
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jul 21 2008, 07:28 PM) [snapback]481315[/snapback]
my gran used to make
an exhibition of herself over in dunoon with those yanks, she was always willing an able to unload their pistols and would exchange her services for a wee glass o whiskey and a partially used bog roll as can be seen here....

[attachment=4211:laurelhardy7.jpg]

Was she the original Polaris shoe


An old sole with a Yankee upper?
mortonjag 2008-07-21 20:03:41
QUOTE(Caltonfan @ Jul 21 2008, 07:40 PM) [snapback]481321[/snapback]
football is about grinding out results, i would be quite happy if we grind out 1-0 wins all season and stay up if its boring so be it, the main point of the game is to win i really dont understand people who say they would be happy if we play decent football and lose rather than play boring and win.

With respect, that is a ludicrous comment. Football is about trying to score more goals than the opposition. In a commercial setting, doing that in an exciting and successful way brings in MONEY.

I would NOT be happy to see us playing brilliant attacking football and losing every match of the season.

Somehow, though, those two things just don't add up!
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mortonjag 2008-07-21 20:06:12
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jul 21 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]481334[/snapback]
Where is the proof of that. None of our strikers have ever scored more than 10 goals in one season at this level.

Where is the PROOF of my opinion! blink.gif

Just take it from Mortonjag-he's right nine times out of ten anyway! angel.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 20:16:57
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 21 2008, 07:56 PM) [snapback]481345[/snapback]
You made the statement MJ, I think it's up to you to give an answer my genuine question.

Whether you do or not, is of course, entirely up to your good self.

I have asked you an equally genuine question. I don't play politician games on here. I've already answered mine!

Bawheid is a 'man on the make'-a self glorifying buffoon who has surrounded himself with inexperienced female satellites, an aged wife of convenience, and several 'bum chum' beneficiaries.

He doesn't give a f*ck about morals or principles so long as HIS party is in power. He'd exist comfortably within Maggie's old wrinkled hide-so detached is he from the REAL people. A very wealthy man whose only concession to the proleteriat is buying his hair shirts in Primark, and living in a semi detached wheelie bin up Arthur's Seat. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 20:22:41
C'MON LEAFY
mortonjag 2008-07-21 20:39:26
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 21 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]481381[/snapback]
i can see this turning into an online battle royale!

when truth be told, 99% of posters on here would rather have a chicken royale.

I'd rather have a chicken Kum Po.

QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jul 21 2008, 08:29 PM) [snapback]481391[/snapback]
Enough of the s***ty nicknames...

C'MON


PANTALOONS
mortonjag 2008-07-21 20:47:35
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 21 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]481390[/snapback]
You seemed to have formed an opinion of the man without any real evidence to back your claims up.

If Salmond was only in it for the money he could easily have joined Labour and made a very good living out of it without the hassle he has had to endure being in the unpopular (compared to Labour in Scotland) SNP for years upon years.
In fact the talented politician that Salmond is, he could have been Prime Minister had he chosen the Labour party.

So I disagree with you MJ, and for me, your argument doesn't have substance

I haven't presented any argument Spurtle. Bawheid's a power crazed pragmatist-his deeds are evidence to that FACT.

He'd always prefer to be top of the bottom rather than bottom of the top-that's why he stuck with HIS S.N.P. It's always had to be Bawheid's band of merry followers-that's the man's raison d'etre.

Oh, and talking of being top of the bottom-if you don't believe me, ask Sir Cliff, who apparently slips a bag over his head when Bawheid enters.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 20:52:24
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 21 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]481434[/snapback]
6-0 Russell

HAT TRICK TO LEAFY THE MAN WHO'S ALWAYS OFFSIDE AND CAN'T HIT A BARN DOOR FROM 10 YARDS C'MON
LEAFY



AND ANOTHER


C'MON LEAFY
mortonjag 2008-07-21 20:57:01
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jul 21 2008, 08:55 PM) [snapback]481444[/snapback]
Well he is back at his level wink.gif

Aye and has scored three more that Newbs and Wakey! rolleyes.gif


C'MON LEAFY
mortonjag 2008-07-21 20:59:11
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jul 21 2008, 08:57 PM) [snapback]481448[/snapback]
Aye it's a measure of a 1st division pro when he scores a hat trick against Calton YMCA.

Take it Wakey and Newbs ain't trying! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


C'MON LEAFY-THE TWATS ARE ANGRY YOU'RE SCORING
!

I'm away out for incontinence knickers-stick another two in before I'm back son!
mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:02:03
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 21 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]481455[/snapback]
8-0

LEAFY?
mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:05:04
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jul 21 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]481456[/snapback]
It's quite sad how you are still trying to get that nickname over. Almost as sad as nearly 22,200 posts of absolute crap.

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LEAFY LEAFY LEAFY LEAFY LEAFY

mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:05:57
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 21 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]481458[/snapback]
Stick him on ignore. Any worth reading, very rare I know, is usually quoted so you won't miss anything.

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mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:07:47
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jul 21 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]481464[/snapback]
Done.

KEEK BO



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mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:08:35
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 21 2008, 09:03 PM) [snapback]481459[/snapback]
Not this time. Kevin

Who's he?
mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:10:11
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 21 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]481467[/snapback]
Nice colours., can we have more Pink though? wub.gif

SURE SURE SURE SURE SURE


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mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:12:42
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jul 21 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]481472[/snapback]
is this the "MJ is being annoying thread"

NOPE_MORTONJAG'S CELEBRATING GOALS FROM LEAFY-OK WITH YOU GRUMPY?
mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:14:12
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 21 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]481474[/snapback]
That's every thread, unfortunately.

HEE HEE-You've got me on ignore!!!!! rolleyes.gif



AYE RIGHT-PRAT
mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:14:57
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jul 21 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]481483[/snapback]
Far from it.... just fed up of all his pish posts that are ruining this forum. He is the most annoying poster I have ever encountered.

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mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:16:00
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 21 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]481485[/snapback]
You tell them MJ, nothing wrong with getting excited. ph34r.gif

They are the REAL children Mrs T-if only they could see themselves-pathetic little nobody's! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:17:11
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 21 2008, 09:15 PM) [snapback]481490[/snapback]
He's best kept on ignore. Maybe if everyone done that he'd go away.... dry.gif

You don't ignore Mortonjag darling-or have you just jumped ship to join the losers? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:19:44
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jul 21 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]481492[/snapback]
You're missing the point ..... MJ is a smug git. laugh.gif laugh.gif

Mortonjag is an extremely humble professional gentleman.


C'MON LEAFY[


Get intae thae c*nts.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:21:54
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 21 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]481502[/snapback]
Difference being, there's proof that I exist. laugh.gif

Aye RIGHT JESUS-any more jokes?
mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:23:06
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 21 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]481505[/snapback]
To be fair, I've not got you on 'ignore' as such....just stopped taking notice of what you post. wink.gif

I always take notice of all posts, but that requires a massive intellect.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:25:46
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jul 21 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]481506[/snapback]
Oh he exists alright ... just all mouth and trousers though. laugh.gif

Away and scratch your scrotum-you still don't believe Mortonjag's a doctor-well how does he know big words like 'scrotum', and bilateral epididymo-orchitis?


LEAFY'S A STAR


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mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:27:34
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 21 2008, 09:26 PM) [snapback]481516[/snapback]
Simple?

Yes-you are son! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:28:09
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 21 2008, 09:27 PM) [snapback]481520[/snapback]
Are you, shame. sad.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:29:43
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 21 2008, 09:27 PM) [snapback]481517[/snapback]
You have a massive intellect? unsure.gif


Nope-the Monkey does all the reading for me! laugh.gif
Wrong again MrsTON. rolleyes.gif (I think, anyway tongue.gif)

mortonjag 2008-07-21 22:09:04
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 21 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]481525[/snapback]
Rather than my having to scroll through MJ's usual self-aggrandasing, thread-wrecking exercise, can someone furnish me with the full time score?

IT WAS NINE NIL AND LEAFY SCORED FOUR

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QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 21 2008, 09:38 PM) [snapback]481529[/snapback]
He actually didn't do anything this time, he celebrated on of our players who he thinks is good that gets stick scoring 4 goals. Still gets shot down for being positive.

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QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jul 21 2008, 09:46 PM) [snapback]481534[/snapback]
He got shot down for continuing to use the worst nickname known to man.

You DO have a high opinion of yourself!

QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 21 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]481536[/snapback]
No more so than others posting pics of wrestlers etc. Match threads are always never anything to do with the match strangely.

Indeed-sad little men those Naitches and ThornTONs! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 22:20:45
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 21 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]481454[/snapback]
What deeds ? blink.gif

If there was any party in Scotland over the last 50 that guarenteed a long, safe, well paid career it was the Labour party.
Salmond chose the SNP as a young man and eventually became leader. The SNP Westminster seats were few and far between at the time. Strange career choice for someone "on the make"
As for Sir Cliff, that was Phoney Bliar holiday chum...... rolleyes.gif

OK Spurtle-I'm tired-I give in-Bawheid has been grossly misjudged-he is truly a self effacing soul whose only aim in life has been to free the humble Scottish peasant from the clutches of his Labour tyrant master. Selling Saltire flags on the street corner for a tanner, he was accidentally noticed by Moira the pure who, taking pity on his simplicity, taught him how to make a clootie dumpling. Bawheid's clootie dumplings soon became so popular that folk wanted him in politics, where all the dumplings go. The rest is history! Oh and Moira the pure dumpling baker taught him always how to make a good skin.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 22:40:11
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 21 2008, 10:28 PM) [snapback]481552[/snapback]
ok so it looks like I wont be getting my wish for no song when the players run out so I think this would be a decent shout.

run out song 2008-09

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mortonjag 2008-07-21 22:43:18
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 21 2008, 10:39 PM) [snapback]481556[/snapback]
I just realised you weren't even talking to me, I feel like a fanny.




mortonjag 2008-07-21 22:49:56
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 21 2008, 10:45 PM) [snapback]481561[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-07-21 22:52:08
QUOTE(rawheed rex @ Jul 21 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]481562[/snapback]
30 over the hill 1eye.gif ok

Bloody hell Rexy boy-at that age they've still got milk teeth and bald fuds.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 22:53:26
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 21 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]481564[/snapback]
But he went to the polytech!!! ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

Well he shouldn't be arguing with people who have had the benefit of a proper education.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 08:51:41
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 01:00 AM) [snapback]481613[/snapback]
no takers?

They were in bed Alistair-why don't you try it-FULL TIME?
mortonjag 2008-07-22 08:54:44
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Jul 21 2008, 11:38 PM) [snapback]481582[/snapback]
Im no arguing with you pops, just telling you im a mythical, cyclops-esq creature and therefore my spelling wasn't wrong! Nothing wrong with the old Polytech, landed a good job straight from Uni with my Risk Management degree.

Risk management sonny boy-well done-can you not persuade Auld Shoogly to give you a job-you might even persuade him that staying on for another season would be a definite death sentence for him! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 08:58:32
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 22 2008, 08:53 AM) [snapback]481647[/snapback]
With respect, that is rubbish. St Mirren do have greater competition from the old firm as they are nearer but I suspect the proportions going to Ibrox and Parkhead is little different from Inverclyde. The population of Paisley is circa 75000 whereas Greenock, Gourock and Port Glasgow collectively is 73,000. Both areas have similarly sized catchments with St Mirren looking to the likes of Bishopton, Erskine, Renfrew and us to the Argyll towns, Kilmacolm and Largs.

In recent history St Mirren have won the Scottish cup taking over 30,000 fans with them to that occasion and- in say the last thirty/forty years - they have been far, far more successful than us by any measure. Where we might once have been peers, they are now the bigger club and we have to face that.

We do not have far more potential than them we only have the potential to be similar to them!

With absolutely NO respect I was exaggerating for effect. Your assessment of the Ton's potential will NEVER equate to mine and I'm right. drink.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 09:01:09
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 22 2008, 06:46 AM) [snapback]481631[/snapback]
If you turn to page 2 in the Sun you will a photo of Nicola playing football for your scrapbook! smile.gif smile.gif ( well if curran and the heifer goldie can try a workout why not!!!!!!) smile.gif smile.gif

I certainly shall-Mortonjag buys the Sun every day for a look at the tits, and it will be fun seeing yet another.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 09:08:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 21 2008, 11:01 PM) [snapback]481570[/snapback]
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QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 21 2008, 11:24 PM) [snapback]481579[/snapback]
My sympathies lie with Arthur. He must be limping, if he can manage to walk at all.

Bawheid spends lots of time up Arthur's seat knitting his tartan shawls to be sold in 'Save the Children'. For the rest of the time he is a politician.

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 22 2008, 08:46 AM) [snapback]481643[/snapback]
Aye. And Phoney Blair was once a member of CND. biggrin.gif
Eck was even expelled from the SNP for being a bit of a pinko, but they let him in again after a change of heart. Who's heart I wonder. He aint no lefty now, that's for sure.

Politician=chameleon/weasel or a weaseleon


RID HOT LEFTIE Jimmy Reid is the latest WEASELEON to join the Tartan Tories! dry.gif ph34r.gif


MARGARET CURRAN IS A C*NT
mortonjag 2008-07-22 09:13:35
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 22 2008, 07:04 AM) [snapback]481635[/snapback]
they are real and her name is shay laren. i found this out by goin to youtube and searching for 'jiggling titties'.

just call me sherlock

Well done Sherlock-did you also work out that her REAL name is Sharon? blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 09:21:31
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jul 22 2008, 07:51 AM) [snapback]481639[/snapback]
A wee Finn called Rajamaki,

Was riding his new Kawasaki,

When the manky dug,

Gave him a chug,

For the promise of gettin a backy!



HA-a good old 'backy' -I haven't heard that term in years-or 'hudgie' for that matter!



In honour of LEAFY's outstanding performance last night


Our best striker's young LEAFY Russell
He's fit and he's fast and he's muscle
The secret is all
In releasing the ball
He ISN'T just hustle and bustle.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 09:31:00
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 22 2008, 12:48 AM) [snapback]481609[/snapback]
don't know what age i'd go to, but i've always wondered that when you're older do you find old women hot? and what constitutes as a hot old woman?
any help, MJ?

It's a matter of personal taste PT. One man's ride is another's punchbag. It's well documented that women peak sexually around forty (so my partner still has seven years to mature), and if by 'hot' you mean horny, have you ever seen the behaviour of middle aged women at a male strippers' club. They no longer fear pregnancy and want to make up for years of careful/less shagging. They are also bored stiff with the same fat old c*nt staggering in from the pub and demanding his 'rights', etc., etc.

Even a tall weedy looking man in his early twenties with a penchant for retired GP's arses, might be surprised by the sexual performance of the average fifty year old female! blush.gif

QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jul 22 2008, 07:52 AM) [snapback]481640[/snapback]
Has it got a pulse? blush.gif

Does it matter? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 10:54:12
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jul 22 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]481687[/snapback]
Paddy, geez a break..... I'm only 45. laugh.gif

Put faces to most of the usernames in the "Exiles" team and a finer bunch of guys you'd be hard pushed to find.

Am I right in thinking Jock is "AJC" ? Couldnae quite work that out mate.

Agree about Viking, always read his posts with interest, then he turns up for the football and sits in the corner saying nothing. I eventually had to ask him which one of us he was. Once he got over the initial shock, he came out of his shell, the "voddy oranges" and the carry-out may have helped. laugh.gif

I christened the young Viking SPARROT because of his inveterate penchant for plagiarising big books in an attempt to look wise and important.

I've always thought he was a nice inoffensive wee soul at heart!
mortonjag 2008-07-22 11:02:39
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 22 2008, 09:06 AM) [snapback]481655[/snapback]
Try an upmarket rag my friend, colour picture available in the Scotsman no less! happy.gif

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I've just seen the photo in the Sun-don't EVER tell me that's a woman-look at the body language-she'd put Julie Fleeting to shame-PLUS her big handlebar moustache! I'm certain wee Nickerless has tartan baws.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 11:05:16
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 22 2008, 09:13 AM) [snapback]481659[/snapback]
He has not joined 'Goldies Guff' squad , even entering his docile years 'no bevvying' would never stoop so low! wink.gif

I DO hope you're not referring to my Auntie Annabel-one of the few Scottish M.P.'s who comes over as sincere, though she's probably just flier than the rest. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 11:09:13
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 22 2008, 09:33 AM) [snapback]481669[/snapback]
It's a matter of personal taste PT. One man's ride is another's punchbag. It's well documented that women peak sexually around forty (so my partner still has seven years to mature), and if by 'hot' you mean horny, have you ever seen the behaviour of middle aged women at a male strippers' club. They no longer fear pregnancy and want to make up for years of careful/less shagging. They are also bored stiff with the same fat old c*nt staggering in from the pub and demanding his 'rights', etc., etc.

Even a tall weedy looking man in his early twenties with a penchant for retired GP's arses, might be surprised by the sexual performance of the average fifty year old female! blush.gif
Does it matter? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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As long as its still warm eh????? tongue.gif

I pop down to my cellar at night with the excuse that I'm just off to slip into something cooler.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 11:16:44
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jul 22 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]481685[/snapback]
I remember a striker,Big Sugar,

Who would pounce on the ball like a cougar,

But from near or from far,

It went over the bar,

Sometimes I wished for a Luger!

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Old players-well we HAVE to do-----

The 'oldies' recall our 'Big Andy'
His corners and free kicks were dandy
For half of the year
He'd just disappear
But sometimes he sure came in handy.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 11:18:33 I've never met the arsehole.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 11:28:45
QUOTE(Muz @ Jul 22 2008, 11:27 AM) [snapback]481720[/snapback]
Good lookin boy eh? Not bad player as well, very quiet on the pitch smile.gif

Donga was playing for us- had WHITE boots on smile.gif

Only person I have found out on here was Roger Mellie- didnt know that was him

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mortonjag 2008-07-22 11:33:06
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 22 2008, 11:21 AM) [snapback]481718[/snapback]
He is obviously not listening to you then. wink.gif

The little wimp listens to nobody, Mrs T. He's one of those arrogant young fuds who inevitably has to learn the hard way.

A true 'know it all', if ever I've come across one. Apparently he was battered on the head a while back, but it didn't knock any sense into him! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 14:39:36
QUOTE(Muz @ Jul 22 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]481747[/snapback]
Christ- I actually laughed at one of the posts from you

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mortonjag 2008-07-22 14:54:27 What an utterly ridiculous question! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 14:56:51
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 22 2008, 01:29 PM) [snapback]481786[/snapback]
Nope. 11am to 6am. You can join on your first visit as long as you have some form of ID. Great place to go to finish off a night out and by the time you leave the massive taxi queues have gone.

It's a great place to socialise if you're not a compulsive gambler and hate loud intrusive music.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 15:00:18
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jul 22 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]481726[/snapback]
ph34r.gif harsh?



Not nearly as harsh as the things he says about Mortonjag, and anyway, I'm telling the truth. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 15:03:07
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 22 2008, 03:00 PM) [snapback]481834[/snapback]
Stranraer V Morton by all accounts

Dammit-I thought I was finished with that HORRIBLE journey-well horrible unless the weather's nice!
mortonjag 2008-07-22 15:05:11
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Jul 22 2008, 11:50 AM) [snapback]481734[/snapback]
I know we were playing against absolute s***e last night but it looks like Russell could well force his way into the starting line up just as it was starting to look that Wake and Newby would be the front pairing.

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mortonjag 2008-07-22 15:05:52
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Jul 22 2008, 12:17 PM) [snapback]481751[/snapback]
Sorry, it was Wake who scored.

Half time now 2-1 to them.

Adam
Cousin
Wake for us.

DAMMIT! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 15:08:38
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Jul 22 2008, 08:27 AM) [snapback]481642[/snapback]
Slammers

Slappers
mortonjag 2008-07-22 15:10:24
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jul 22 2008, 03:03 PM) [snapback]481838[/snapback]
Aye, and if they were smart they would keep themselves cool by finding themselves a nice big ocean instead of rolling about in their own s***.

There is bugger all intelligent about frolicking around in your own excrement.

Try telling Bawheid that.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 15:33:46
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 22 2008, 03:28 PM) [snapback]481865[/snapback]
That explains everything!!!!! mellow.gif

Would you like a guided tour of my cellar?
mortonjag 2008-07-22 15:36:20
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 22 2008, 03:25 PM) [snapback]481863[/snapback]
I stress to add that I mean knowing of her by her addressing conferences and meetings I also attended! cool.gif

Look-just trust the Jag-unless you've had her clothes off her you don't really know what Jag knows!
mortonjag 2008-07-22 15:38:04
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 22 2008, 03:15 PM) [snapback]481852[/snapback]
Dolphins are smart enough to know you can have sex for pleasure.
Was that what it told you? laugh.gif
Case dismissed.



It told you it was ENJOYABLE! unsure.gif

QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 22 2008, 03:34 PM) [snapback]481874[/snapback]
Ive never known our leader to frolic in excrement! smile.gif

I was using a little licence!
mortonjag 2008-07-22 15:54:33
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jul 22 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]481877[/snapback]
ohmy.gif blink.gif does she have 1 undecended testicle?



With facial hair like that she obviously has hypertrophic testes! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 15:58:16
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 22 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]481858[/snapback]

DOESN'T SCORE TAP INS BIG WAKEY



Wakey and Leafy


What a combo! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 15:59:48 OK then-here's another-


Which is smarter, a goat or a kangaroo?
mortonjag 2008-07-22 17:07:50
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jul 22 2008, 04:54 PM) [snapback]481906[/snapback]
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The reason behind Dougie's incoherent ramblings? A £200 a day crack habit?

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Surely GD's not that expensive!
mortonjag 2008-07-22 17:28:42
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 22 2008, 05:15 PM) [snapback]481920[/snapback]
He sold me a very decent PC cheaply.

Good guy says I!

Not a very proper one though.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 19:49:12 OH WELL-Mortonjag, the Board's most negative poster sees no reason to change his prediction of 5th.

Having said that, I think other fans will hate watching us almost as much as we'll get bored with 'non event' football.

I'm still totally bemused by stories of huge wage hikes and long contracts for existing players-especially with DI being blamed for 'blowing his budget'.

So far nobody has denied those stories, and if true, they show DI up as utterly wet behind the ears.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 19:52:07
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Jul 22 2008, 05:47 PM) [snapback]481934[/snapback]
Don't know if this has been mentioned elsewhere, but in the article he said that Celtic are crap except McGeady and that Kirk Broadfoot's a "big dumpling."

Fantastic laugh.gif

Oh well-Jimbo presumably knows all about dumplings. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 19:54:08 Morton 1 Midden 0



LEAFY
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:01:04
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 22 2008, 05:15 PM) [snapback]481919[/snapback]
But gay with who? Merry and Pippin obviously dealt with each others One Rings. And Sam got married!

My bets on Gandalf wink.gif

I'm assuming you've read every Harry Potter too! dry.gif

QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 06:56 PM) [snapback]481974[/snapback]
indeed, no option to vote for mortonjag, which would have made the original question all the more enjoyable biggrin.gif

It was an utterly ridiculous question Alistair-back to bed with you.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:03:40
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 07:09 PM) [snapback]481992[/snapback]
only to be undertaken by those who have attended proper institutions, and only then, using proper blood

Really Alistair-and how does one use 'proper blood' in sphygmomanometry? wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:08:54
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 22 2008, 11:12 AM) [snapback]481711[/snapback]
What about me, I think I look better.

Your willie's hanging out the bottom.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:14:55 Gary Ball Player.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:17:16
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 22 2008, 08:14 PM) [snapback]482091[/snapback]
As far as I know you have no more pics of me, so I'll do as I damn well please! laugh.gif

And bebo pics are well below the belt, I'll pure fall out with you if you manage to get a hold of one!

You sound ashamed of your picture young man-I'd say you are much more handsome than the tall J*m*e, but doubt if you can match up to his knob sooking talents. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:18:57
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 22 2008, 08:15 PM) [snapback]482093[/snapback]
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Kevin Byers and Barry Sellars could do equally well!
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:20:12
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 22 2008, 08:06 PM) [snapback]482078[/snapback]
Its amazing how serious people treat statements when there isn't a patronising smiley next to it. rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:23:15 Just thought I'd put joogly jugs back to the top! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:25:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 22 2008, 08:22 PM) [snapback]482102[/snapback]
well that was a backhanded compliment if ever i've seen one! the wrinkles on your face are matched only by the ones on your bollocks!

I've just had my wrinkles botoxed darling-you'll hardly know it's me next time. In fact you won't even need to bring the bag, with the mouth hole.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:39:41
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 22 2008, 08:32 PM) [snapback]482115[/snapback]
Boring.

Care to sook an old man's knob avec ou sans sac?
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:41:14
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 06:49 PM) [snapback]481964[/snapback]
so you keep saying laugh.gif

Incorrect Alistair.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:42:11
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 22 2008, 08:41 PM) [snapback]482125[/snapback]
rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:42:52
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 22 2008, 08:40 PM) [snapback]482123[/snapback]
I'll pass.

Bawbag!
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:44:20
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 22 2008, 08:32 PM) [snapback]482114[/snapback]
I lost my voice. laugh.gif
Other than that suprisingly good for major exercise and a wine night. ph34r.gif

Did they smuggle you in?
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:45:29
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 22 2008, 08:43 PM) [snapback]482130[/snapback]
Ask Royal Mail rolleyes.gif

Will they know?
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:48:04 The forum's becoming dull. We need more jobby pictures.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:50:23
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Jul 22 2008, 08:46 PM) [snapback]482137[/snapback]
And a dry one at that

I've seen many a weeping scrotum sonny boy.

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 22 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]482139[/snapback]
Again no thanks.

Your loss!
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:52:01
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 22 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]482143[/snapback]
Your looking in the wrong forum. ph34r.gif

Oh goodness-I thought I had logged on to 'Coprophilia Weekly'!
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:53:24
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 22 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]482145[/snapback]
Ah. rolleyes.gif Think you will be bored out of your tits.

Watching the good folks of Glasgow's orient can be utterly fascinating Mrs T-mind boggling at times!
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:54:44
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 22 2008, 08:52 PM) [snapback]482147[/snapback]
Who shall gain?

Profundity!
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:55:46
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 22 2008, 08:53 PM) [snapback]482149[/snapback]
Looks like you have been moved. rolleyes.gif

Indeed, it's no time since I came out.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:57:17
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 22 2008, 08:46 PM) [snapback]482138[/snapback]
Yes, in a kitbag. blush.gif

Did Andy have a quick shag while you were inside?
mortonjag 2008-07-22 21:02:23
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jul 22 2008, 08:56 PM) [snapback]482152[/snapback]
I honestly appreciate constructive criticism and hope I've responed to your points to your satisfaction...

A serious suggestion, Mr I.N Verally-could we not raise the tone a little by playing something classical?

I was thinking that a few bars of Handel's water music might do very well as a 'run out' tune. I'm sure Mr Rae would approve.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 21:04:46 Willy Man and necrophilia come together like strawberies and cream.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 21:58:27
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 22 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]482164[/snapback]
I don't know. I was in a bag.

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mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:04:05
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 22 2008, 09:46 PM) [snapback]482181[/snapback]
Auntie? Your Niece more like. laugh.gif

ph34r.gif

QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 10:00 PM) [snapback]482191[/snapback]
so why don't you stand, C*NT

I beg your pardon Alistair!
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:06:09
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 22 2008, 10:00 PM) [snapback]482195[/snapback]
Thornton/Salty is a good guy, always friendly and affable when I bump into him. His internet personna is somewhat different but it's just a personna.

Persona, or no persona, he's a wee keech.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:07:51
QUOTE(Sonic-Dynamo @ Jul 22 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]482202[/snapback]
He played really well against Hartlepool,as i think most people thought,and I was quite surprised the other day in the papers that we appeared to have lost interest in him. He looked solid an composed against a side that were marginally better than us,similar to a mid-table first division side. I thought he would have been a fairly good signing but obviously Irons thought differently-or somebody else has got there first.

Why would we EVER sign a central defender right now. There are far greater priorities. I too thought he looked good.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:09:51
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 22 2008, 05:15 PM) [snapback]481921[/snapback]
i heard it was MJ finally going to clear the air with Dougie, or pop a cap in his ass.

Shoogly and I have an excellent understanding, young man!
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:11:39
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]482206[/snapback]
so why don't you stand, C*NT?

apologies, i missed out the question mark

That's better-now off to bed with you.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:12:24
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 10:09 PM) [snapback]482211[/snapback]
although you do apparently believe in a 'higher power' biggrin.gif

I do indeed.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:15:06
QUOTE(Toby @ Jul 22 2008, 10:11 PM) [snapback]482215[/snapback]
Because Greacen and Harding are f***ing dumplings.

Shimmin is better than what we've got at the moment.

I don't think they're as bad as some make out, but I CAN'T understand daft wage rises and long contracts for mediocre players.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:16:27
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 10:11 PM) [snapback]482213[/snapback]
both gaga

If you say so Alistair.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:17:56
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 10:14 PM) [snapback]482219[/snapback]
not before you answer the question, darling

Which question, Alistair?
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:19:19
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 10:18 PM) [snapback]482226[/snapback]
i do tongue.gif

The Shooglyphiles will get you.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:22:25
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 10:20 PM) [snapback]482232[/snapback]
pah, what do you know about football?

you'll be wanting to stop music when a goal's scored next sad.gif

Alistair-you've had too much to drink again. Off to bed with you.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:24:50
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 22 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]482234[/snapback]
On paper, Partick look better than us, the only problem they have is without Buchanan they can't score. The problem we have is we have no one who can score.

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mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:25:56
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 10:24 PM) [snapback]482235[/snapback]
your language is quaint, earthling

I have plans for your anus.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:26:57
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 22 2008, 10:25 PM) [snapback]482237[/snapback]
sorry, i forgot about Leafy.

You mean


LEAFY
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:29:17
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]482240[/snapback]
so why don't you stand, C*NT?

that question, darling

I stand every day Alistair-I have a knob to be envied-so large indeed that it is more than a fill for the average mouth.

Yours-HMM thumbdown.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:42:24
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 10:31 PM) [snapback]482246[/snapback]
you are dodging the question, little man

I'm under no obligation to answer your questions Alistair.

BTW, have you stopped beating your boyfriend?
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:44:06
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 10:35 PM) [snapback]482250[/snapback]
not a multi-storey car-park i hope ohmy.gif

No, no, just a size twelve Toetector. bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:45:46
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 22 2008, 10:28 PM) [snapback]482243[/snapback]
Remarkable how much he and you are alike laugh.gif

Are you comparing Mortonjag to a jobby?
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:49:21
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]482261[/snapback]
feeble response, if i may say so sad.gif

I note you have failed to answer my question. Goodnight.
mortonjag 2008-07-23 06:59:47
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 13 2008, 08:43 PM) [snapback]476750[/snapback]
its funny, everytime i see that this thread has been added to the last post is always by you, always seems like you must be havin a conversation with yourself. Thought age had finally caught up with you sad.gif

IT'S MY thread-so there! shutup.gif

Anyway, do you think the current feelings of togetherness and optimism, fostered fastidiously by our fatherly Chairman, will get a boost from Mr Donald's presence at Saturday's Renfrewshire Cup Final.

He must be bursting with excitement as the first competitive game approaches, and more importantly, he's BACK IN THE COUNTRY, and the huns don't have a match, so he'll be able to fully indulge his lifelong passion for the Ton.

He'll also be able to hand over his answer to the Trust's question in person as he clearly dislikes other forms of correspondence. Indeed, he may even speak to Jim McColl, if he has a clue who the f*ck he is! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-23 07:11:55
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 22 2008, 11:39 PM) [snapback]482312[/snapback]
well to be fair, he'd be better off having a career as a magicians assistant.

I hope he has more success than Gillian Donaldson.
mortonjag 2008-07-23 07:14:31
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 23 2008, 12:08 AM) [snapback]482327[/snapback]
Head to head we had the measure of Thistle last season. They got 8 points more than us and the basic difference was their results against Livvy. They took 10 from them and we took 2. Now we were poor last year but we saved our very worst results for Livvy to the extent that they were a bit freakish. I can't see that being repeated.

Against the rest of the league our performance was comparable.

We have strengthened and we will not be easy to beat this year. I just don't see us losing in the way we did in games like Clyde at Cappielow. I don't see Thistle having strengthened to anything like the same degree and unless Buchanan comes back as good as new, its not obvious where their goals are coming from.

It's conceivable that we'll do well enough by Christmas to see promotion as a possibility, and somebody will finally cough up during the transfer window.

It COULD be such an exciting season-the fans deserve better.
mortonjag 2008-07-23 07:18:29


QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 23 2008, 12:06 AM) [snapback]482325[/snapback]
I also watched this game. He didn't really have much time to impress but I'd have him back at Cappielow in a heartbeat - even if we paid the transfer fee I said was outrageous last year. sad.gif
It was definitely Jim Duffy.



So would I-the ideal player to compliment our strikers and big boy midfield.
mortonjag 2008-07-23 07:20:11
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jul 22 2008, 11:42 PM) [snapback]482317[/snapback]
My boy and his Falkirk supporting pals went to the Falkirk v Ross County game tonight. He assures me that they are a pretty decent team and that Gardyne had a great game, though he may have been looking out for him. it was 2-2 in case anyone is interested.

Gardyne has the makings of a good player. I don't know why he was 'rubbished' so much when he left us, having hardly got a chance to play.

Some folk just need to 'put the boot in'! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-23 07:26:47
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 10:59 PM) [snapback]482277[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

mortonjag runs for cover ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

look darling, even someone with only three undergraduate degrees from a provincial university should understand elementary logic.

so why don't you stand, C*NT?

mellow.gif

Early to bed, and early to rise makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise Alistair. I will now answer your question. Nominations are closed.

Will you please now answer mine?
mortonjag 2008-07-23 07:30:04
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 11:10 PM) [snapback]482278[/snapback]
i'm sorry, could you repeat your whole sentence in latin, please?

Ad praesens ova cras pullis sunt meliora dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-23 07:31:52
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 23 2008, 12:30 AM) [snapback]482331[/snapback]
It has to be dolphins as they don't give you speeding tickets

The cooncil's working on it-some effin EEC directive!
mortonjag 2008-07-23 07:35:26
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 22 2008, 11:29 PM) [snapback]482298[/snapback]
Hmm, this caused a fair bit of controversy when it was released - apparently most of the recipes are heart attacks waiting to happen!

laugh.gif


And the loudest protesters were the fast food industry! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-23 07:38:54
QUOTE(dmc @ Jul 23 2008, 12:32 AM) [snapback]482332[/snapback]
Stop it you're killing me!!
Oh my goodness you're just soooo funny!! mellow.gif

58 YEAR OLD WOMAN GETS HUMPED IN TURKEY




mortonjag 2008-07-23 07:40:50
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 23 2008, 12:37 AM) [snapback]482334[/snapback]
I did start my working life off in an Undertakers dry.gif
Sometimes you have to jump into the crash box and make sure they're rigid rolleyes.gif

Making a living from the dead!
mortonjag 2008-07-23 07:42:16
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 23 2008, 03:06 AM) [snapback]482372[/snapback]
I ate dog meat when I was a kid. Beat that.

It's nothing to be ashamed of. As kids we were thrilled when Mum stopped buying Chappie and moved up to Pal.
mortonjag 2008-07-23 07:54:06
QUOTE(Muz @ Jul 22 2008, 11:13 PM) [snapback]482282[/snapback]
That's f***ing out of order.



QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 23 2008, 01:50 AM) [snapback]482358[/snapback]
Agreed - MortonJag, that was in a bit of poor taste, even for this forum. A real shame for the guy.
Nice lad, but a weapon on here smile.gif



QUOTE(Toby @ Jul 23 2008, 01:55 AM) [snapback]482362[/snapback]
Agreed, f***ing disgraceful thing to say.



QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 23 2008, 01:57 AM) [snapback]482363[/snapback]
Have to agree MJ, wee bit OTT there im affraid huh.gif




Listen guys, I said absolutely nothing offensive on the basis that I was NOT privy to his personal details any more than he's privy to mine. I thought he'd fully recovered from his injuries long ago.

Some of you need to take a long hard look at yourselves before casting the first stone. I've been regularly subjected to unwarranted abuse by the young gentleman-from LONG before his injury, and I NEVER attack him on the forum-I only defend.

Somebody started this thread asking for opinions-clearly a bit tongue in cheek-I made a light hearted comment about the head bump 'not having knocked sense into him', and


WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSH blink.gif


I've had a p.m. this morning from a poster who's had the decency, wisdom, and dignity to fill me in on some details, and in future I'll shy clear of this topic.

Port ton's comments are also noted with interest! laugh.gif


QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 23 2008, 03:27 AM) [snapback]482376[/snapback]
I'll take a strike for that no probs.

Perhaps MJ doesn't know the extent of the incident and its repercussions, but he should really think before trying to get a cheap laugh or something.

Hey Dong-the Jessie Boys are SUPPOSED to get cheap laughs. Would you like me to start a discourse on the complications of palliative radiotherapy?
mortonjag 2008-07-23 07:58:11
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 23 2008, 01:03 AM) [snapback]482345[/snapback]
Right we've all had them but what is your most embarrassing / hellish one ??
I took one today on the train to Glasgow and still feel like s*** as I'm typing this !!!
I thought it'd pass and I'd feel better by lunchtime as TBH I didn't have a lot to drink last night as I was aware I had an interview today. Not sure what the hell happened to make me take one.
When we reached Glasgow I couldn't get off the seat as after the cold sweats etc I got pins n needles throughout my whole body and started to shake. Even a sugar filled cuppa at work, instead of my usual Swetex, didn't really help matters.
It brought back flooding memories of when I was 18 and took one on a train going to Pishley.

I had been out till about 3am and was rat arsed but had to get up at 6am to go to work.
The train was mobbed and roasting. I was standing in the aisle and not feeling good at all and the next thing I know I've collapsed and was being carted off the train on a stretcher !!!

Doctor at the RAH gave me one helluva lecture about Brekky being the most important meal of the day and that my idea of a buttered Digestive didn't quite fit the plan. He made me drink a very sweet cup of tea and would only release me into the care of one of my work colleagues.
What exactly causes them is it something to do with your blood sugar levels ??

Hey Willy Man-I thought I'd heard every slang expression under the sun, but WTF's a 'Whitie'?


Must surely be an Inverclyde term.
mortonjag 2008-07-23 08:01:37
QUOTE(longboat @ Jul 23 2008, 07:50 AM) [snapback]482400[/snapback]
I see a top four finish.

Last year we had our fair share of draws and were not that easy to beat (all the time). We have beefed up the defence, so we will have a good against record. If they don't score against us as often, it makes the goals needed less and more achieveable.

Now it just depends on the quality of our strikers. (If that is stating the bleeding obvious I apologise in advance).

This is becoming a common statement.

Our strikers will do just dandy if they are supplied efficiently. We're only three players short of a VERY exciting team, but it always seems to be the same those days! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-23 08:24:06
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 23 2008, 08:10 AM) [snapback]482405[/snapback]
Agreed.

Wee Gowser would make all the difference to our team and would give us something to get excited about. I obv can't speak for everyone but the wee man was worth the entrance money alone when on song.

C'mon Dougie, you can't be over your spend fetish despite the counselling so go and make an idiotic six figure swoop for Gowser please! biggrin.gif




Ah, but does he still know the code for the Golden Casket lock? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-23 08:27:58
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 23 2008, 07:32 AM) [snapback]482394[/snapback]
Whats wrong with her hair do , no wait a minute its terrible!

I was more referring to her obvious 'tache'. If Wee Nickerless hasn't got baws, Bawheid's an Englishman.
mortonjag 2008-07-23 08:37:12
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 23 2008, 12:13 AM) [snapback]482329[/snapback]
I hate this kind of tie. Its a real hiding to nothing game and a potential banana skin.

I wish we could get a decent run in one of the cups ideally with a quarter or semi or even final against one of the old squirm. Just to get some money in the coffers for once. Surely we are about due one?

Indeed-I've been thoroughly sickened by our apparent lack of interest and mediocre performances in Cup Ties for several seasons.

The stock response has always been-'thank f*ck that distraction's out of the road-now we can concentrate on the league'!

Just look at the income generated last season by the Doonhamers and the Jags. We could have bought several 'quality' players with that kind of money. dry.gif

Moreover, it's long past time Morton were perceived as another 'wee' club.

Are we on the brink of something better or is it just going to be 'more of the same'?
mortonjag 2008-07-23 09:00:16
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 23 2008, 08:31 AM) [snapback]482411[/snapback]
I was more referring to her obvious 'tache'. If Wee Nickerless hasn't got baws, Bawheid's an Englishman.
[/quote
laugh.gif She must have a tache then!

Nichol Anthony Sturgeon-a transexual wannabe politician known affectionately as Nicola.
mortonjag 2008-07-23 09:01:34
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Jul 23 2008, 08:48 AM) [snapback]482417[/snapback]
I remember Broadfoot playing in the RC Final at Scappa 2 years ago and he was absolutely mince. Gawd only knows how he went on to play in a UEFA Cup Final! blink.gif

Maybe there's still hope for Superkev!
mortonjag 2008-07-23 09:02:55 I'm sure the skunks will be very happy with their new SPL stadium, and don't give a toss what their poor neighbours think!
mortonjag 2008-07-23 09:06:00
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 23 2008, 08:43 AM) [snapback]482415[/snapback]
Would you like a guided tour of my cellar?
[/quot
No I will decline your kind invitation thanks! laugh.gif

I will ply you with some excellent wine before I kill you-it will be very humane.
mortonjag 2008-07-23 09:11:42
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 23 2008, 08:39 AM) [snapback]482414[/snapback]
Hey Willy Man-I thought I'd heard every slang expression under the sun, but WTF's a 'Whitie'?
Must surely be an Inverclyde term.
[/quote
its not, you have led a sheltered life wink.gif

I'm feeling like a troglodyte this morning.

QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 23 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]482427[/snapback]
Normally refers to an overdose of Cannabis resulting in the unfortunate going 'White', pucking up and generally becoming a jelly. This is a general term widely used.

laugh.gif

Mortonjag has never involved himself in the soft drug culture!
mortonjag 2008-07-23 09:14:50
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 23 2008, 08:36 AM) [snapback]482412[/snapback]
I wish you well tomorrow and hope you will counting SNP votes in very large numbers! smile.gif

CURRAN'S A C*NT
mortonjag 2008-07-23 09:16:19
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 23 2008, 08:51 AM) [snapback]482420[/snapback]
I'm liking you more every day. blush.gif
[/quote
That will soon wear off! smile.gif

I may invite Her Majesty to inspect my cellar.
mortonjag 2008-07-23 09:19:09 HAPPY BIRTHDAY! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-23 10:12:24
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 23 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]482442[/snapback]
This is Mortonjag and his true love ?

NOPE it's two POUFFES

mortonjag 2008-07-23 10:13:16
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jul 23 2008, 09:51 AM) [snapback]482446[/snapback]
Ally Scott? What age is he? Must be nearly 60 as he was at Glagow Uni at the same time as me but a few years ahead, must be not far off 60.

59
mortonjag 2008-07-23 10:21:45
QUOTE(Muz @ Jul 23 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]482441[/snapback]
You didnt say head bump- you said "battered on the head", which is completely different.

As someone who's been close to someone that's been in the same position, I find the comment utterly offensive, light hearted or not, as I know the problems, issues that being involved in something like this can bring. It's no f***ing laughing matter.

I was kinda mellowiing towards you of late, but this has brought me back to the opinion that I had before.

You of all people should know better, and Alan deserves an apology at the least.



If you have a complaint I suggest you take it up with the Moderators. I have clearly explained my position, and have asked the poster who p.m.'d me to extend my good wishes to ThornTON.

I really can't be arsed with myopic clots like yourself who don't understand plain English. You've seen the results of a head injury-well WHOOPY F*CKIN' DOO. May I remind you that I'm a retired medical practitioner, and I DON'T need lectures from self satisfied young prats.

Would you like me to start taking offence to every post you make about Mortonjag sonny, because I wouldn't be short of ammunition?

Grow up or f*ck off. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-23 10:36:26
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 23 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]482469[/snapback]
As I've already said, I know skunks who already really dislike the stadium and agree with my sentiments that it is a soulless lego-land effort.

Really! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-23 12:47:14
QUOTE(Muz @ Jul 23 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]482481[/snapback]
I know you are a retired medical practioner, which is why I said YOU OF ALL PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW BETTER, so who doesnt understand plain english now ya self righteous, senile auld c***!!!!!

Self Satisfied? Explain please....explain also why I dont understand plain english?

Sonny? That kind of patter sums you up.

Do keep referring to me as young though, I like that.

I'll let you off with that since you know nothing about any physical/psychological illness I may be suffering from! rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Toby @ Jul 23 2008, 12:22 PM) [snapback]482532[/snapback]
You've attracted abuse with your controversial views. Not saying I don't agree with all of them but if you want to go about saying some of the stuff you've said in the last wee while you're going to get folk's backs up as you well know. You're obviously a clever guy, so don't paint a picture of yourself as some poor, innocent little bully victim when we all know that's far from the whole story.

As for saying that we're supposed to be getting cheap laughs on this board, possibly so, I don't mind a bit of humour that sails pretty close to the wind or some stuff that is downright offensive, after all, I'm about as PC as Bernard Manning, but if that's the sort of stuff we find funny I'm not really interested in being a member of this forum.
Call me a self satisfied young prat all you want, I'm someone that wouldn't take things up with a mod about you nor am I one that comes on here giving you grief when more often than not it's courted by your self obsession and attention seeking.

Actually restores my faith in my own faults to see someone who is older and more qualified than myself acting like a spoilt child because he's been dug up about something he deserves stick for.

Take your own advice and grow up.
As above, the reason he gets the most abuse on here is because he laps it up. Capitanus posted a while ago about how this board is now more about one self obsessed old man than about Morton, I can see where he's coming from. Threads like "Would you shag mortonjag?" only go to prove how obsessed with himself, over and above every other issue, mortonjag is.

You clearly did NOT read, or chose to ignore the Moderator's post. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-23 12:49:41
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 23 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]482541[/snapback]
Watch yourself, or you will have the jolly smells of the roses gang tell you all is wonderful in scappa land ph34r.gif

Oh don't worry Gibby-I'm not getting nearly enough abuse this weather! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-23 12:52:30
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 23 2008, 11:41 AM) [snapback]482516[/snapback]
Who said the old rascal was a gentleman??????? laugh.gif

I am convinced he has a thing about wee nicky! smile.gif

I'm thoroughly attracted to her-if only I could make up my mind from which angle to approach him.
mortonjag 2008-07-23 13:08:55
QUOTE(Toby @ Jul 23 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]482544[/snapback]
The moderator's post was in relation to talking about Salty. I, on the other hand am picking faults in your self obsession and attention seeking.

I could have sworn you were harking back to the original comment prior to my p.m. this morning, when you YET AGAIN, called my post and motives in question.

Furthermore I believe the Moderator should be seeking an independent medical report on my psychological state before allowing any further accusations of self obsession and attention seeking.

I am very close to someone whose life has been ravaged by his chronically insecure and obsessive/compulsive personality, and frankly find your 'rubbishing' of a well known clinical condition entirely misplaced.

Indeed, I believe you should extend an open apology to all such affected souls for your wantonly associating them with Mortonjag.

It might be an idea to oblige all posters to provide a full medical history on registration in order to avoid offence.
mortonjag 2008-07-23 13:23:18
QUOTE(stubaws @ Jul 23 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]482559[/snapback]
god largston you are taking this pre-season pretty bad aint you!?!?! i think 5th is very achievable if we have continuity in team selection and tactics. dundee and st johnstone should be miles ahead of the rest with queens building on last year and also dunfermline being an unspectacular 4th. 5th for us would be solid progress from last season. partick were awful last year, im very scepticle of the new livi regime and surely to god we will be too strong for clyde and airdrie. i actually think ross county could also be very comfortable midtable finishers so i'll go for 5th or 6th place for us so long as our starting 11 stays settled and we dont have any JM style 'tactical' changes
2 wingers and a striker? a winger, attacking mid and a striker? goalkeeper, full back, winger?

If I could choose I'd have a quality goalie, a quality midfield playmaker, and a quality winger (probably right sided).
mortonjag 2008-07-23 13:29:31
QUOTE(BMC @ Jul 23 2008, 11:03 AM) [snapback]482486[/snapback]
There once was a striker named Peter,
who's goals could not have been sweeter,
for his waist we did fear,
as he drank lots of beer,
now he's stuck at the back as a sweeper!




Poor Spoonsy is misunderstood
Some posters are viciously rude
For many a day
he's attended AA
And now he's just fond of his food.
mortonjag 2008-07-23 13:33:54
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 23 2008, 01:01 PM) [snapback]482552[/snapback]
I know who he is and can vouch for him, as can a number of other posters on here. Therefore I let him in.

I bloody well hope you've informed him about my medical problems!
mortonjag 2008-07-23 13:39:26
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jul 23 2008, 01:31 PM) [snapback]482569[/snapback]
what !! so theres a new rule then... dont slag my mate/mates ?? ffs there is a lot of people out there who have or know someone very close to them who have either an illness or dissability, are you going to take ALL these peoples feelings into consideration... ffs I have been offended by some of the things said by people on this forum, but as per the rules you either except it or you dont use the forum... I'm sure everyone knows MJ was joking, so now jokes about mentally disabled people / muslims etc are ok , but dont joke about my mate ????

TY, warrior-I was equally sure of that, and I wouldn't have posted it on the BIG MOD forum in any case.

This forum was incepted BECAUSE of the behaviour of sensitive souls-NOT to accommodate them! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-23 13:42:31
QUOTE(Toby @ Jul 23 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]482574[/snapback]
Ah, right. So I'm the one that's out of order for saying that you were wrong to make fun of what happened there? Dress this up whatever way you want mj, and use other people's disorders in whatever way you please if it makes you feel you're beating me on something, your professional background obviously ensures you know far more on such issues than myself.

However, that does not escape from the fact that you are a self obessed, attention seeking egomaniac, in the DDFR variety almost. Too often reasoned, sensible debate on here is destroyed by your contribution and you than try and turn it round to make yourself look like a victim when you know fine well you're loving every second of it.

Intelligent man you may be, pity you chose to channel your intelligence in a manner as to excuse you for acting like a spoilt brat.

I notice that you continue to ignore the possibility that I may be suffering from a clinical condition which accounts for my behaviour! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-23 13:52:53
QUOTE(Toby @ Jul 23 2008, 01:49 PM) [snapback]482578[/snapback]
Because I don't believe you are, and find it quite pathetic that a guy would try to put doubts in my mind about a mythical condition he might have to turn the tables on a matter he's clearly in the wrong over. If you were I wouldn't mock it though, my sense of humour doesnt extend to laughing at people with physical/ mental disabilities or being caught in unfortunate situations which can affect them for the rest of their lives. Your's clearly does.

HA-and therein lies the crux of this whole ridiculous debate. What Mortonjag sincerely believed when he originally posted is being deliberately ignored by a shower of wee boys with only one aim-to put the boot into Mortonjag.
mortonjag 2008-07-23 14:30:42
QUOTE(Toby @ Jul 23 2008, 01:58 PM) [snapback]482581[/snapback]
Aye, that's right. My intention was to put the boot into you. Have you actually read any of my posts in the last few years? I've probably been your biggest defender on this board. My issue with this is that you found someone "putting the boot in" to be something of comedy value whilst one of my mates really suffered.

But yeh, let's just assume it was all down to everyone else wanting to put the boot into you. What was I saying about self obsession?

Your issue is that you CHOOSE to interpret it that way. The Moderator has already commented on the true nature of what has happened, and you continue to 'put the boot in'.

Oh, and this self obsession thing-unless I'm not very much mistaken, you're not exactly coy about craving a wee bit of attention yourself! laugh.gif

QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 23 2008, 02:06 PM) [snapback]482586[/snapback]
Now your taking the piss MJ.

Sorry, but over the past few months ive read your posts and never said a word against them my friend. I thought you were OTT a bit with the comment you made, you obviously did know what the score was with ThornTon or the comment would never have been made in the first place huh.gif

But i really do think you are at the Michael ( sorry for bringing a name into this ) for that bold comment !!!!

And thats not me puting the boot in rolleyes.gif

Anyway, on the subject of the Salty poufe, where is he these days blush.gif

What seems obvious to you Gibby may not in fact be the case! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-23 14:34:45
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 23 2008, 02:05 PM) [snapback]482585[/snapback]
He was indeed.

Pity that Bawheid wanted no meaning action taken against him when he was committing mayhem in 1999.

Even McWhirter, the nats' cheerleader in the Herald knew that.

Clicky

Alex Salmond believes the Nato action to be "unpardonable folly". Thus has the SNP leader elected to join the oddball coalition of the Daily Telegraph, Alan Clark, Tony Benn and the Socialist Workers' Party which regards the bombing of Serbia as a kind of imperialist act!

Straight as a die this Mr Salmond chappie.
mortonjag 2008-07-23 14:37:03
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 23 2008, 02:31 PM) [snapback]482595[/snapback]
I thought this was The Jesse Ventura Tobacco Chewing Forum where anything goes.

I've suffered serious head injuries (plural because I have lost count) in my life but if someone wants to take the c*** out of me for that on here feel free. It is the no holes barred forum is it not?

HA Barbie-but will your friends see it that way-oh-and did those bumps knock any sense into you? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-23 14:43:04
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 23 2008, 02:38 PM) [snapback]482603[/snapback]
Be brave , go for it man! laugh.gif

Spurtle would be awfy jealous though.

Where is the good chap-is he out East trying to persuade the intelligentsia of Barrowfield that Mason's not really a Hun? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-23 14:46:02
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 23 2008, 02:42 PM) [snapback]482605[/snapback]
My friends do and have frequently taken the piss and I am big and ugly enough to speak for myself.

Did the bumps knock any sense into me? Nope.

Really-some folk are so terribly insensitive. I've often had the piss taken out of me too regarding my psychological condition! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 09:12:25
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 23 2008, 03:36 PM) [snapback]482635[/snapback]
My thoughts are that you're trying to justify it to yourself after enduring a morning of passive aggression from your significant other over your decision not to go.

Your thoughts are unsurprising, Smegma.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 09:21:52
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 23 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]482767[/snapback]
Dougie's a lad who likes the odd tipple
Also, a poke,a chug and a sook at a nipple
Some say he's over the hill, but he's banging the lovely big Gill
In positions that gives him a thrill

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif Classic, Spurtle!

QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 23 2008, 07:44 PM) [snapback]482784[/snapback]
there's a poster on here who's a doctor
when his mother gave birth they all mocked her
what had just slithered out
of her big hairy clout
made her query the species that c***ed her



mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif


How the f*ck do you expect me to rhyme anything with 'forza'? laugh.gif


An arrogant knob titled forza
Said 'Doc I don't know where my baws are'
He looked, then he paused,
Saying 'you have NO baws
But your tadger's a thick as a hawser'.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 10:19:36
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jul 24 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]483038[/snapback]
An auld cynic they call MortonJag
Wore a gimp mask and black leather gag
Bent right over a wall
Took Rae’s c***, balls ‘n’ all
And pushed back till his bum it did sag.



A poophie DJ, InverAlly
'Came out' after one massive swally
And dressed in pink tutu
He said, 'I'll shag you too
Provided you come to my ballet'.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 10:29:54
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 23 2008, 03:38 PM) [snapback]482638[/snapback]
Would'nt it be great if there was a facility to filter out all posts than contained a smiley or larger than normal size font!



OH, YES ALMIGHTY ONE-YOU'D LOVE THAT WOULDN'T YOU?



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mortonjag 2008-07-24 10:42:01 I haven't noticed much negativity to be honest, nor much of the crazy 'positivity' we had this time last year when over 75% of our clever little posters had 'TOTAL CONFIDENCE' in J.M.'s ability!

I don't see many worried about relegation, and nobody seems to see promotion as a prospect this year-I think that's pretty realistic.

I feel positive about a fifth (or so) finish, and very negative about the manner in which it will be achieved. mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 10:46:10
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jul 23 2008, 04:50 PM) [snapback]482736[/snapback]
It was actually more of a discussion than an argument.

Anyway, thanks to all who voted, I thought it was a dolphin too so I won, ha ha.

It was an utterly ridiculous question, but playing the same game-which is more intelligent-a box of matches or an ounce of pus?

I'm not going to start a silly wee boys' poll to prove I've won, but I do know the correct answer-AS ALWAYS! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 11:29:33 I don't think that being a pouffe is a 'disability' as such, but I still wonder if we should be so quick to laugh at them.

Pouffes come in all shapes and sizes-some are more 'in your face' than others, but like it or not, pouffes are part of the fabric of our society, and I feel we ought to accept that graciously.

Many pouffes take a leathering just because it suits those who like to keep them underfoot, but a bashed pouffe may spring back, and they are NOT all just big softies.

C'mon the



POUFFES
mortonjag 2008-07-24 12:31:05
QUOTE(Mr.Kennedy @ Jul 24 2008, 12:26 PM) [snapback]483077[/snapback]
We gonna play that game then? Fair do's...

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI see no evidence of a pouffe in that picture!
mortonjag 2008-07-24 12:36:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 24 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]483067[/snapback]
please clarify your question, MortonJag.

How many matches in the box ?

Are any of them struck ?

Trust you to attempt to gain an unfair advantage-OK- it's a standard box of matches-it is full, and none of the matches has been used and replaced.

The ounce of pus came from a large carbuncle on the penis of a seven month old Liverpudlian horny toad, and was carefully drained through pure muslin before being weighed.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 12:38:05
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jul 24 2008, 12:17 PM) [snapback]483075[/snapback]
see in the papers etc...see when the state a name a Judge as Mr Justice Eady or Mr Justice Wilkie etc... what the f*** is that aw about?

Max Mosley is a deviant laugh.gif his stories have gave me a giggle in the last few months, guttin that its now over hahahaha

Care to define the relative norm?
mortonjag 2008-07-24 12:44:09
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jul 23 2008, 11:04 PM) [snapback]482911[/snapback]
Could work, if I find a way to grow 5 inches. laugh.gif

Just make do with the two you have son-some birds ain't too choosy.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 12:45:29
QUOTE(Mr.Kennedy @ Jul 24 2008, 12:41 PM) [snapback]483083[/snapback]
Who needs evidence? tongue.gif

Is that a brown Chesterfield?
mortonjag 2008-07-24 12:46:31
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 24 2008, 12:45 PM) [snapback]483086[/snapback]
Found it

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI still see no definite evidence of a pouffe!
mortonjag 2008-07-24 12:56:03
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 24 2008, 12:48 PM) [snapback]483090[/snapback]
Why 7 moths and a horny toad from Liverpool ?

Liverpool, Engerlund

or Liverpool, New South Wales ?

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QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 24 2008, 12:50 PM) [snapback]483092[/snapback]
I was concerned that if the matches had been struck they would never be very bright.

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laugh.gif

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 24 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]483093[/snapback]
Or

Liverpool, Illinois
Liverpool, New York
Liverpool, Pennsylvania
Liverpool, Texas
Liverpool, Nova Scotia
and
Liverpool, Costa Rica
WE NEED MORE INFORMATION!!!!

Liverpool, Great Britain, and his name was Mephistopheles. Unfortunately he did not survive the operation.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 12:58:53
QUOTE(Mr.Kennedy @ Jul 24 2008, 12:57 PM) [snapback]483098[/snapback]
How about this one?

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDNope-you're just not finding true pouffes!
mortonjag 2008-07-24 13:10:17
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jul 24 2008, 01:04 PM) [snapback]483106[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDSIR Elton is a gay musician!
mortonjag 2008-07-24 13:13:33
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 24 2008, 01:03 PM) [snapback]483104[/snapback]
whitish-yellow pus ?

bluish pus ?

a sign of pseudomonas aeruginosa ?

brownish pus ?

blink.gif

The pus aspirated from the horny toad's tool was light amber. Cultures indicated a mixed growth with a predominance of yeasts and non specific staphylococci.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 13:18:13
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jul 24 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]483117[/snapback]
see when its two women is it lesbyterian?

Judyism I'd guess.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 13:24:26 I'm kinda hopin' some ladies will be invited. I'm sure 'on the piss' would enjoy herself, while 'Her Majesty' could lounge on a deck chair looking serene. Mrs T would certainly blend in with the boys too.

As for the teenage lassies-I think perhaps no!
mortonjag 2008-07-24 13:28:53
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 24 2008, 01:18 PM) [snapback]483120[/snapback]
Tut !Tut !! Doctor what sort of prognosis is that ??

Surely we should await the immortal wisdom of our chairman beore daring to comment on the seasons fortunes .

I for one don't wish to be accused of never being happier than when having a good old moan or that we all should be held in comparison with the loyal Celtic supporters singing their hearts out at the San Siro .

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I'm just bursting to read the first 'Shoogly Peg' two pager of the new season!

Any predictions?

'Today we face our old Renfrewshire rivals from Paisley in what promises to be a stirring and absorbing encounter'! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 13:40:38 Everything's died down. I guess that's it sold! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 13:54:46
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 24 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]483137[/snapback]
Would rather some Fairy gave me full head than have a full head of hair blink.gif

CHRISSIBOI OUTED!
mortonjag 2008-07-24 13:57:35
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jul 24 2008, 01:43 PM) [snapback]483132[/snapback]
There's at least 4 of us. Me and you, Iainmorton, and one other whose username I can't remember off the top of my head.

Oh aye and the guy selling his flat of course which makes 5.

Mr Bam (though he'll claim it's East Renfrewshire)-Briggston-greacen-guy from Broomhill-whiteman-an probably hunners more!

OH AYE-and the BIG MOD! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 14:08:56
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 24 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]483148[/snapback]
SSsssssshhhhooossshhh what I do in the privacy of the public toilets is between me and the vicar . wub.gif

'The Vicar' indeed-has port-ton been doing his post coital bible readings again?
mortonjag 2008-07-24 15:55:02
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jul 23 2008, 10:48 AM) [snapback]482480[/snapback]
Our first competitive game isn't on Saturday, it's a week on Saturday.

The Renfrewshire Cup is a competition-however 'diddy'!
mortonjag 2008-07-24 15:59:30 Sponsorship brings in much needed cash. If an outside sponsor would bring in more cash than from Golden Casket-there is NO excuse.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 16:09:01
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 24 2008, 02:55 PM) [snapback]483182[/snapback]
Damned right I'm not a weegie. mad.gif

Born in Renfrewshire and to my mind still living there.

Everybody knows the Mearns is part of GLESCA!


G bloody 77! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 16:12:58
QUOTE(Malt @ Jul 24 2008, 04:07 PM) [snapback]483229[/snapback]
The question is, is Dougie knocking back outside sponsorship to use Morton as a PR tool for his Sugar and Spice and all things nice firm?

The answer is probably 'yes', and also he ain't pursuing outside sponsorship.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 16:15:02
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jul 24 2008, 02:41 PM) [snapback]483168[/snapback]
Anything else I can think of would be the obvious stuff like a sponsored walk, etc.

Speaking of which I will give the hospice £1, to a maximum of £100, for every day MortonJag doesn't mention the names "Shoogly" or "Leafy"

Put it in writing to Vader and once he's confirmed you're on! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 19:54:56
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 24 2008, 05:08 PM) [snapback]483276[/snapback]
I agree, as soon as every single player in our team has the ball they have no idea what they're going to do with it next.

That's a wee bit unfair-- Kev always has a good idea that he's about to lose it.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 19:58:23
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Jul 24 2008, 02:22 AM) [snapback]483001[/snapback]
Horrible, horrible draw.

I'm almost glad I've got a cast-iron excuse (stuck in work til 5) otherwise I might have been tempted to do something daft, like go along.

It's not so much the distance to Stranraer, but the fact that so much of the journey is along s***ey wee roads. With road signs that only indicate the next s***ey wee village along.
I'm sure Gretna was (is?) further, but it's motorway almost all the way, and consequently a relatively painless drive.

Add to that the fact that Stranraer are a team we'll be expected to beat, and you've got all the ingredients for a turgid, nay pish, game of fitba, with a disappointing result and an unpleasant drive home

ph34r.gif

laugh.gif

Grinding out results has become something of a raison d'etre for the Ton! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 20:07:29
QUOTE(Malt @ Jul 24 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]483239[/snapback]
Still not had Fudgy Wudgy as a sponsor. Next season's Third Kit sponsor I suspect!



QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jul 24 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]483252[/snapback]
I am at a loss as to how much benefit there is in sponsoring a football shirt.
I am sure it is a very subtle tactic that lures me into purchasing products that I don't really need but I have never watched a football match and thought I must buy some of those sweets, or some of that brand of lager, or I must change my mobile phone provider ! Unfortunately the same applies to the more worthy logos. When was the last time you watched Barcelona play and then sent some money to UNICEF. The good thing about Barcelona and now Aston Villa is that they actually pay money to UNICEF and ACORNS for the privilege of wearing their logo. Well done Airdrie for promoting St Andrews Hospice as presumably Airdrie are missing out on some potential income from else where.

With regard to Morton. Its Dougie Raes call. I am not on the inside or have the inside knowledge that a lot of posters claim to have but I can understand why Dougie puts his logos on Morton shirts however I like the idea of a "raffle" so any of us could win the chance to have our companies, names or a charity on the shirt.

sub·lim·i·nal
–adjective Psychology.
existing or operating below the threshold of consciousness; being or employing stimuli insufficiently intense to produce a discrete sensation but often being or designed to be intense enough to influence the mental processes or the behavior of the individual: a subliminal stimulus; subliminal advertising.

QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jul 24 2008, 05:51 PM) [snapback]483295[/snapback]
Tricky situation this if you ask me. Obviously we don't know if other businesses have offered to sponsor our shirts, and if they have how much they have offered, but what we need to remember is that if Golden Casket continue to run at a profit then we'll never be in financial problems. If that means increasing their awareness around the country by having their brands on our shirts then is that not surely a positive thing, regardless of how it looks?

We DO, according to at least one reliable source.

QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 24 2008, 05:51 PM) [snapback]483296[/snapback]
Golden Casket subsidise Morton to the tune of 100s of thousands per annum. I don't think its a lot to ask that they have their logo on our strips which they pay for over and above coughing up for our losses.

Whether people like it aesthetically is another matter and one for individual choice. Me, I would not wear a replica top I was paid to do so but I do use other Morton clothes such as the jumper and sports shirt with the club badge embroidered on it.

Perhaps not, but if we could make more by using outside sponsorship we should. Any accountant will explain to you that there's no place for sentiment in business.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 20:13:55
QUOTE(Mags @ Jul 24 2008, 08:09 PM) [snapback]483341[/snapback]
Not sure how much money was involved,but I remember reading or hearing that a few companies were approached about sponsorship,T-Mobile included,but Golden Casket were in a position to offer a better deal for the club. That,and the fact that Golden Casket's profits cover our losses every year is good enough reason for me.
The 'Millions' logo is more instantly recognisable than 'Golden Casket'. They're on sale everywhere now,even in the USA
so it makes more sense to use it.
Anyway,it's only a name,the most important thing for me on a strip is the badge,if it's got the Morton badge then i'd buy it biggrin.gif

Mags.

Mags-that's a huge myth.-GC's marketing is haphazard so that you WILL find Millions in some outlandish places. The product is NOT, however, distributed evenly, and in many areas of Scotland they've never heard of 'Millons'.

Golden Casket is a tiny confectionery company with 49 employees.

I await the usual crap from the usual culprits! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 20:18:06
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 23 2008, 11:16 AM) [snapback]482501[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDIt's not so much to do with prettiness as tittiness Your Majesty.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 20:21:20
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 24 2008, 08:16 PM) [snapback]483348[/snapback]
Golden Casket gets a tax rebate because Morton makes a loss and DDFR donates that money to the club


Shoogly gets a tax rebate because Shoogly makes a loss and Shoogly donates that to Shoogly. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 20:26:55
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 24 2008, 05:11 PM) [snapback]483281[/snapback]
On that basis Greenock is part of Pishley.
PA15. blink.gif

The Mearns was, is, and always will be a suburb of Glesca. Greenock is a post code suburb of Paisley.

QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jul 24 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]483344[/snapback]
whiteman was the guy I was thinking of. Imagine forgettng him, sorry pal, no offence blush.gif

Mr McB is in East Renfrewshire so disnae count.

My FAVOURITE OF ALL poster Real Hoops comes from Kilmacolm AND Shawlands-no less!
mortonjag 2008-07-24 20:32:12
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 24 2008, 08:23 PM) [snapback]483358[/snapback]
Quality over quantity rolleyes.gif

So will the pope allow increased consumption of Quorn as an alternative to proddy socks blink.gif

There's much more to life than sperm counts and androgens, though some recent anti Jag posting might suggest the opposite! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 20:38:08
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jul 24 2008, 05:55 PM) [snapback]483299[/snapback]
Following discussions on VaderTon's thread on sponsorship ideas for Cowal Hospice I will be giving �1 to the cause for every day MortonJag doesn't say "Shoogly" or "Leafy" on the board, starting August 1st, to a maximum of �100 which means if he can keep it shut until Saturday 8th November then I'm out of pocket but I wont need to put up with two daft nicknames for a few months and it all goes to a good cause. If anyone else fancies joining in (doesn't need to be a pound) shove yer name down.

Also, MJ, no changing nicknames and starting to refer to Russell as "Branchy" or something like that.



The reason it starts on August 1st is that RSBH will be out of jail by then!

I have this uncomfortable feeling that the rules are already being bent (no other nicknames like 'branchy') laugh.gif , but once I have written confirmation of the details from yourself and Vader, I'll do my very, very,very best not to use the words 'Shoogly' or 'LEAFY' for 100 days.

Smegma will be angry at this self aggrandisement, mind you! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 20:44:46
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 24 2008, 05:09 PM) [snapback]483278[/snapback]
But are they accurate?


No
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 24 2008, 05:24 PM) [snapback]483289[/snapback]
Ooooh...you got a nickname!


Yes
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 24 2008, 06:45 PM) [snapback]483321[/snapback]
This is my third or fourth, I think.

No

Smegma is the first term of affection I have bestowed on you.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 20:47:03
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 24 2008, 04:41 PM) [snapback]483262[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDMore titty pics from Puggs-is he trying to prove something?
mortonjag 2008-07-24 20:51:06
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 24 2008, 08:16 PM) [snapback]483346[/snapback]
For f***s Sake - I go away for a week and I canae trust you lot with anything.
Boozie - I'm delighted for you - one week flying solo and you go all biscuit arsed on us - magic - just need to get myself some popcorn and sit back for the rest of this show.

TonInDublin

ps everybody else - don't be so f***ing precious. A comment was made - it was made innocently enough in the absence of some detail - when the detail was forthcoming an apology was made. Get over it. I'm sure the two guys involved will. And just for the record, this next statement applies to all you ramptons on here, not just any people mentioned on this thread - if you want to run with the hares on here, and are comfortable dishing s***e out left, right and centre - then you better be fierce comfortable taking it back - you can't have it both ways. That is all.

pps No, I wouldn't shag MJ.

Was it such a bitter experience darling? wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 20:52:17
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 24 2008, 08:42 PM) [snapback]483378[/snapback]
Singe them off with a lit fag - works for me.

REALLY? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 20:56:33
QUOTE(Mags @ Jul 24 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]483364[/snapback]
Both parties benefit ....where's the harm in that ?
I wouldn't call Spain,Portugal,Canary Islands,Balearics etc 'outlandish places'

The company even had a prime advertising spot during The Simpsons...hardly haphazard rolleyes.gif but as I said,the name isn't important as long as the club benefit from it.

Mags.

Well nobody's heard of them in Warrington, Redcar, or Poolewe! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Mags @ Jul 24 2008, 08:29 PM) [snapback]483367[/snapback]
Long live Shoogly.... laugh.gif laugh.gif
Mags.

Indeed-LONG LIVE SHOOGLY TILL AUGUST 1ST
mortonjag 2008-07-24 20:57:57
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 24 2008, 08:56 PM) [snapback]483392[/snapback]
Aye. Dog ends just aren't up to it.

laugh.gif

My partner loves pulling them out with tweezers (well that's what he calls them).
mortonjag 2008-07-24 21:02:08
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 23 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]482468[/snapback]
Some view!!!!

With a decent pair of binoculars he could watch them shagging in Kilcreggan-much better than the empty can to the wall Hyndland technique!
mortonjag 2008-07-24 21:04:36
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 24 2008, 08:59 PM) [snapback]483395[/snapback]
Is his name Port-ton?

No-no-port-ton's my knob sooker-and a fine knob sooker at that-my partner's older, and more erudite.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 21:06:47
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 24 2008, 08:22 PM) [snapback]483356[/snapback]
She just had a baby a short time ago, might explain the voluptuous bosoms. unsure.gif

You make big tits sound so ethereal.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 21:11:31
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jul 24 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]483399[/snapback]
No "Shoogly", no "Leafy" and no making up new nicknames to replace them smile.gif

Also, if you last 50 days, per se, you should chuck in the rest so it's an even £100 they get regardless smile.gif

HEY YOU-if you REALLY think I'm going to describe Shoogly as 'Mr Rae' for 100 days this becomes difficult! LEAFY can become Ian Russell-that's fine. laugh.gif

It's your 100 quid and I'm up for it, but if we're doing it properly the rules will have to be sanctioned by a third party and publicised-otherwise you know what will happen! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 21:22:13 Dear Dr Mortonjag,

The sellers of the property in Polworth Street have declined your request to view on the grounds that you are not a Portonian.

Yours sincerely,


Ida Harden


Corum West End.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 21:25:46
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jul 24 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]483401[/snapback]
Thank you for the information, I didn't appreciate that.
I know what subliminal means but my question still stands. Does the advert on the shirt actually make you buy the product. I watch Morton week in week out but never buy the sweets. How subliminal is that?

Golden Casket instead of Millions?

Golden Casket sounds like a funeral parlour.

I've had that confirmed by an employee at Feart Matilda.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 21:26:59
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 24 2008, 09:24 PM) [snapback]483413[/snapback]
We stick together, its like the league of Gentleman over here.

I see-I thought it maybe had something to do with the Rotweilers.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 21:28:47
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jul 24 2008, 09:14 PM) [snapback]483405[/snapback]
Did I ever tell you I'm a magician ???

ah cannae pull rabbits out of hats but ah kin pull hares out of ma arse.

Does your partner do it with 'tweezers'?
mortonjag 2008-07-24 21:30:30 I've been reading this thread with some interest. Unsolicited goods may indeed be retained, but three piece leather suites? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 21:34:49
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 24 2008, 09:15 PM) [snapback]483406[/snapback]
Lets see how many people on here will sponsor you on this venture, loads of folk on here are big with there mouths but become very quiet when it comes to parting with their cash, I'll start the ball rolling and donate a tenner to what ever fund is decided upon if you complete the 100 days successfully.



QUOTE(Kaney @ Jul 24 2008, 09:22 PM) [snapback]483412[/snapback]
I'll second that.

This is good guys, but the usual cynics will attempt to sabotage it, even if it's for the Hospice. No doubt SMEGMA will have a field day. It was RSBH's idea-and I'm happy to go along-we just need to nominate somebody to oversee it properly.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 21:36:19
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jul 24 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]483419[/snapback]
it is indeed tongue.gif

Still haven't seen any real pouffes.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 21:45:50
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 24 2008, 09:42 PM) [snapback]483425[/snapback]
here ya go, mcf***.

That may be a pouffe in the posh West End but to me it's just a sex toy.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 21:48:17
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jul 24 2008, 09:44 PM) [snapback]483426[/snapback]
just off the phone to my mate who some times goes to the games with me and his kid and he has just advised me not to take my boy with me as there may be trouble between the fans. I was not at the hartlepool game but heard there was an amount of organised violence. he told me that he was told by his mate that there will be bother on saturday which has been organised. I have first hand experience as a kid of crowd trouble at football from the 70's with my dad where he was injured when just trying to keep me safe. anyone heard anything.

i will still be going but having 2nd thoughts about taking the boy.

In my opinion the best thing is just not to discuss this any further.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 22:22:32
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jul 24 2008, 09:54 PM) [snapback]483431[/snapback]
tell me why mj as i am just asking a sensible question about possible organised trouble, I have a concern as should any parent taking the kids to a game of football.

All I'm suggesting is that we play it down-think about it.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 22:35:35
QUOTE(stuart @ Jul 24 2008, 10:18 PM) [snapback]483455[/snapback]
We should have paid that money for him last summer. I said so at the time and almost everyone disagreed.

Because everybody was correct Stuart. It was daft money for an unproven young player when it could have easily been spent more prudently. One year down the line and he's still struggling to break through.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 22:39:35
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jul 24 2008, 09:55 PM) [snapback]483432[/snapback]
What a truly remarkable gentleman Harry Patch is, the autobiography is a very worthwhile read though I'd hesitate to use the word enjoyable. It really does bring home the horrors of war.

Actually the time spent in the trenches makes up only a relatively small part of the book, which when you think about it is not really as surprising as it may seem as it only accounts for 4 months of his 110 years. It doesn't detract from the book though as the accounts of his early life in particular were also interesting. What really became apparent in the book was just how much the world has changed in this guy's lifetime, he didn't see his first car until he was a teenager! Despite that his early childhood was happy, almost idyllic.

But of course it's his accounts of his service in WW1 trenches that were the most fascinating. In his own words, he had no interest in fighting anyone, and was a reluctant conscript to the army in 1916. He viewed it as a war created by politicians and generals where the ordinary men of all nationalities and on both sides were simply used as pawns, and he wanted no part of it. This may seem obvious to us now but back then and under waves of propaganda fuelled patriotism that was indeed an enlightened view.

He was part of a 5 man machine gun crew and they had a secret pact - they would only shoot to kill in an 'us or them' situation, otherwise they would aim for the legs. No doubt modern day professional soldiers would mock them for their weakness or naivety, but I saw it as a remarkable and courageous example of real humanitarianism.

Two of the guys in their gun crew were blown to bits, and his day of remembrance isn't the Sunday nearest to the 11th of November, but the date in which they died. He has no time for official Remembrance Day commemorations, which he sees more as a glorification of war than a true remembrance of the fallen. Again, a remarkably insightful view from a 110 year old gentleman imo.

A top, top bloke. I'd urge everyone to read this book.

I'd urge you to take up a new career in self promotion.


Books are for POUFFES.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 22:42:09
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jul 24 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]483445[/snapback]
Am I not trusted? sad.gif

Of course you're not trusted-you're still in jail FFS! laugh.gif

Seriously, it's a great idea, but if more than one want to get involved, it might be better to have somebody keeping a tally and watching the rules.

It wouldn't be the first time the Jag's account's been hacked remember! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 22:45:20
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 24 2008, 09:50 PM) [snapback]483430[/snapback]
So what were the others? sad.gif

What are you havering about now, Smegma?
mortonjag 2008-07-24 22:47:42
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 24 2008, 10:45 PM) [snapback]483478[/snapback]
The big mobile one that parks in Sinclair Street at home games.

I thought that was Manky's Portaloo.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 22:49:04
QUOTE(stuart @ Jul 24 2008, 10:41 PM) [snapback]483471[/snapback]
It would have provided us with far more options going forward and brought some of this entertaining football you have been talking about lately.

Of course it would, but at the time it was funny money. Hindsight's a wonderful thing.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 22:50:11
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 24 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]483485[/snapback]
He's the same as always happy.gif

What does he think about pouffes?
mortonjag 2008-07-24 22:51:10
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 24 2008, 10:35 PM) [snapback]483469[/snapback]
Proddy socks, laugh.gif
Did I not point out the informed conscience part of humanae vitae? mellow.gif

Was I never you RE teacher?

Proddy souls?
mortonjag 2008-07-24 22:52:21
QUOTE(Muz @ Jul 24 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]483491[/snapback]
Not working for me guys- wanted to have a wee nosey!

dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 22:56:45
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 24 2008, 10:49 PM) [snapback]483488[/snapback]
And i'll third it

I think MJ will walk this wink.gif



Mortonjag will try very hard but we need regulation. For example I might say-'Last night I shagged my partner (the male one) down a leafy glade'-or-'My neighbour asked me to fix her shoogly door'.

Can you imagine? The MJ haters would be coming in gallons and their short trousers. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 06:12:46
I KNOW SPURTLE


Yet again Bawheid's merry band capitalises on the ineptitude of 'Labour'.

It's a fantastic victory for the S.N.P., and surely signals the sounding of Maggie Broon's death knell.

C*nt Curran was reputedly 'in tears'... laugh.gif laugh.gif Tears of frustrated rage-GIRUTC!!

OK Bawheid-you've been handed a mandate on a plate.


WHEN'S THE REFERENDUM?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 06:22:31
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jul 25 2008, 02:59 AM) [snapback]483572[/snapback]
people did laugh when salmond said 20 snp mps in 2010. now that figure looks practically modest. Cairns ran a typically negative campaign and from what i hear he was the driving force behind the forced recount. dissapointed that the "separatist b*****ds" over at solidarity were beaten, albeit narrowly by the ssp. murdo fraser, off form all night has just committed blasmphemy: John Curtice got it wrong. Never! the mans a legend!
FAO david edwards. For a by election thats actually a very high turnout, given the date and the seat always having a low tunrout (38 % in 2005)

'Twas a sunny day!

QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 25 2008, 03:05 AM) [snapback]483573[/snapback]
No posting by mortonjag !!!

Is he out celebrating with his lady ?


laugh.gif
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 25 2008, 03:07 AM) [snapback]483574[/snapback]
The lack of a Tory breakthrough makes the 2010 split even more likely.
I genuinely think tonight is pivotal to the independence movement: what is there now to stop it: Iain Gray?

SPARROT, you're at it again! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 06:27:58
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 25 2008, 12:26 AM) [snapback]483538[/snapback]
McInally's doing a fine job.

Erm-that was last Autumn son-seems light years ago, mind! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 06:30:28
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 24 2008, 11:37 PM) [snapback]483518[/snapback]
Greenock and Paisley are very similair, if you lived in Paisley you'd say the same about Greenock. Think thats why our rivalry works so well, despite us not actually being that close.

That's true, though Pishley has only one Harbour.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 06:33:21 I was impressed by him in the second half against Hartlepool-had no idea he's only twenty.

Just imagine what we might have been able to do if existing central defenders hadn't been dished out long contracts and big wage rises.

We now don't 'need' him and can't afford him. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 06:36:11
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 24 2008, 06:01 PM) [snapback]483305[/snapback]
I thought NewTon would have been odds on favourite to start this topic. rolleyes.gif

Is that a fact?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 06:40:56
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Jul 24 2008, 11:03 PM) [snapback]483497[/snapback]
I'll go along with Jim's proposal.

MJ must be present at the giving ofd the cheque though! laugh.gif



QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jul 25 2008, 12:44 AM) [snapback]483542[/snapback]
Cappielow Pitch before the Airdrie Game



Not a chance of that guys-not unless you buy the Jag a suit of armour!

Anyway, we've got a few days to get this rolling.Will somebody please put him/herself forward as an independent overseer.

I'm sure one of the older brigade would do it well-Tonsilitis for example, or Mr Edwards.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 06:42:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 25 2008, 01:47 AM) [snapback]483554[/snapback]
Good morning Mortonjag,

In that case, the answer is the pus.

It has far more potential than the matches.

smile.gif



Correct, though the matches had a head start.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 06:43:57
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 25 2008, 05:40 AM) [snapback]483575[/snapback]
Workers at a mine in Russia are refusing to work after a pack of bears fatally devoured two colleagues last week.

The grisly remains of two guards were found near the Koryakgeologia platinum mining compound in Russia's isolated eastern region of Kamchatka last week, UK newspaper The Times has reported.

A pack of at least 20 brown bears have been spotted stalking the site since the grisly discovery, trapping 400 geologists and miners who are too terrified to venture outside, according to local emergency services.

“In the interests of safety they didn't come out to work — the people are scared by the invasion of bears,†a spokesman for the Kamchatka emergencies ministry was quoted as saying.

The local government has sent a team of snipers to cull the predators, but they were not expected to reach the isolated area until the weekend.

A helicopter operation was abandoned because of bad weather conditions.

The Kamchatka brown bears have been known to grow up to three metres tall and can run at speeds near 50km/h.

Terrified villagers at the nearby town of Khailino have also locked themselves inside their homes after seeing bears rummaging through their garbage bins.

But orders to hunt and kill the bears have sparked arguments from environmentalists in Russia.

They claim that commercial poaching has caused a fish shortage, forcing the normally peaceful bears close to human settlements to hunt for food.

Another man was also mauled to death by a bear on the nearby Russian island of Sakhalin last month
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Gidday mortonjag,

Is being devoured by a brown bear usually fatal ?

Not if eaten alive.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 06:47:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 25 2008, 06:27 AM) [snapback]483580[/snapback]
Why did mortonjag laugh at this ?

Is it too close to the bone ?

Mortonjag's spectral sexual appetite might well encompass the likes of Wee Nickerless.

He/she/it's still one ugly creation.

Some might claim the same of an old goat.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 06:49:09
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 24 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]483194[/snapback]
Or a pile of Pouffes (should piles be mentioned in the same sentence as Pouffes) huh.gif

'Stack'!
mortonjag 2008-07-25 06:54:49
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 24 2008, 11:13 PM) [snapback]483502[/snapback]
you're f***ing s***e at these

laugh.gif

I wish we'd signed Dominic Shimmin
He's never been into the women
Indeed when half pissed
He's a joy with the fist
And ever so sweet when he's rimmin'
mortonjag 2008-07-25 06:56:13
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 25 2008, 12:07 AM) [snapback]483532[/snapback]
nah, thats not who i mean.
ph34r.gif
edit: should have probably actually read the thread properly.

What do you think about pouffes PT? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 06:59:50
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 25 2008, 12:51 AM) [snapback]483545[/snapback]
It used to be Augustus!

It still is!

Augustus Roger Smegma Erasmus Horace Oscar Liberace Elliot (known affectionately as Smegma).
mortonjag 2008-07-25 07:33:46
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 25 2008, 07:23 AM) [snapback]483594[/snapback]
it's like he's got a bingo machine in his cell, filled with balls covered in random words. new nicknames required? alright!

'expiry date'!

'foam'!

'godzilla'!

'stent'!

'pickles'!

and if he doesn't get a rise from anyone, they're immediately recycled. puggsy and now you have commented on this one, so it'll be around for a while. despite being totally meaningless.

Clitoris Uvula Narcissus Trivia



(Known affectionately as Narcissus-the posh pad pusher).
mortonjag 2008-07-25 07:53:45
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 25 2008, 07:47 AM) [snapback]483599[/snapback]
Excellent and incredible result for the SNP. The Salmond bandwagon rolls on and on, what an incredible leader he is !

Labour are in a sorry state. A Party that's almost bankrupt, with a pathetic leader in Westminster and no leader at Holyrood (with no one credible to take over).

Roll on the referendum !!!

I could not have put it better Spurtle.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 07:56:45
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 25 2008, 07:41 AM) [snapback]483597[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Referendum in 2010 tongue.gif

Edit to give dates to referendum Bill before parliament on Burns Day 2010. Referendum will be held on St Andrew's Day 2010.
Ye heard it here first !

Strike while the iron's hot Spurtle-why's Bawheid feart?

QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 25 2008, 07:51 AM) [snapback]483600[/snapback]
Yes a great victory, I half expected to see Morton Jag appear beside his beloved to give Nicky support on the BBC as a pundit! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I fully intend to get rat arsed tonight to celebrate the win! laugh.gif

WTF is 'Nicky'? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 07:59:43
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 25 2008, 07:39 AM) [snapback]483596[/snapback]
the clock on my oven is less predictable.

Have you told the viewers? The oven alone must surely be worth £2178.

For sale-two bed top floor tenement flat with faulty Aga, and well maintained peephole. laugh.gif

(Offers over £220,000) smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 08:05:11
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 25 2008, 07:57 AM) [snapback]483603[/snapback]
I have to agree despite all the effort the turn out is low, and is worrying. however Labours fightback came to a shuddering halt in Glasgow east and it never got out of first gear.

As David Cairns orchestrated their ill fated campaign will he accept full responsibility unlike Douglas Alexander who oversaw the farce of the Scottish Government elections. I wont hold my breath under water waiting for his statementto that effect.
A busted Flush?



Oh well, for me the greatest joy is the smug smirk being wiped of C*NT CURRAN'S face. Next time I pass her in Newlands Safeway I shall smile and wish her 'Good Day'. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 08:11:08
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 25 2008, 08:00 AM) [snapback]483605[/snapback]
Strike while the iron's hot Spurtle-why's Bawheid feart?
WTF is 'Nicky'? laugh.gif
[/quote
Alexs wee side kick you admire so much. happy.gif

Oh-the bearded lady who once tried to find a Spanish Suitor.

I visited Tarragona, Catalonia from 12 to 13 November 2005 to speak at the autumn conference of Esquerra Republicana de Catalunya. My flights, accommodation and meals cost £300 and were met by Esquerra Republicana de Catalunya.

Esquerra apparently said later-'I not find her too convince me'. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 08:13:46
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 25 2008, 08:01 AM) [snapback]483606[/snapback]
Justed checked its working fine.

It looks quite swish. Can anybody join?

Mortonjag's birth was registered in Gourock!
mortonjag 2008-07-25 08:15:38
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 25 2008, 08:04 AM) [snapback]483607[/snapback]
We are fussy who we let in here you know, Sunny Port Glasgow by the sea is an elite area,exceptions cannot be made , not even for you! cool.gif

But I lived in the Port-TWICE, and I went to school in the Port TWICE, and I attended Church in the Port till I learned sense. mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 08:18:04
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jul 25 2008, 08:13 AM) [snapback]483610[/snapback]
if this swing relflects in the whole of scotland in 2010 then the main man cairns, gordon brown douglas alexander and even captain eagle himself alistair darling will fall
whose left to take the poisoned chalice of leader now? will duncy step up to the plate? perhaps in a bid to rescue a seat which is surely under threat

Is this the first flicker of hope that three quarters of Scotland's Cooncils will soon become graft free?


AYE RIGHT! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 08:30:55
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 25 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]483614[/snapback]
Oh well, for me the greatest joy is the smug smirk being wiped of C*NT CURRAN'S face. Next time I pass her in Newlands Safeway I shall smile and wish her 'Good Day'. laugh.gif
[/quotI would be grateful if you would giver her a cheery wave on my behalf laugh.gif

I'd give her a Masonic handshake if I knew how to do it! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 08:37:25
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 25 2008, 08:24 AM) [snapback]483615[/snapback]
laugh.gif the very one! laugh.gif laugh.gif

A nice juicy pair if ever I saw one!
mortonjag 2008-07-25 09:29:07
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 25 2008, 08:44 AM) [snapback]483619[/snapback]
I'll need to ask the committee at the next AGM. rolleyes.gif

Thanks-will I get a reply before my death is registered? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 09:33:29 Dr Bam is correct, and equally important not to let somebody with cold sores sook your knob.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 09:52:47
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 25 2008, 09:40 AM) [snapback]483633[/snapback]
The voice of experience, thank to Dr MortonJag.

I thought your fitness to practice hearing was today. unsure.gif

No-it was a week ago-they wanted to ban me Sine Die until I explained I was a Ton supporter.

The old school tie always works wonders in Medicine!

I got off with a slap across the wrist and a promise never to prescribe the pill to Catholic ladies over ninety- ever again.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 09:54:28
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 25 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]483635[/snapback]
Andy said he would keep my updated but he also said he would be drinking from very early in the day.

So as a back up measure...could one of you keep me updated on the game? Just HT and FT scores and scorers will do as I probably wont have my phone on me while competing.

Thanks

(The Morton message board...a new communication tool!)

Not the massive tit sooker of the year competition?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 10:11:54
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 25 2008, 09:13 AM) [snapback]483625[/snapback]
I would respectfully suggest that Greenock is slowly becoming a commuter 'burb too with quick access to the M8.

The Mearns has got a lot bigger than it was 25 years ago and has people working all over the place, the rapid industrial expansion of East Kilbride has lead to may people working there and living in East Ren.

Glasgow's refusal to release it's large blocks of land for private housing for most of the 60s to the nineties certainly encouraged the flight to the burbs. That policy is now dead and buried, lots of private building on land sold by the cooncil. All Glasgow needs to sort out is it's education system to see more people wanting to live there.

Don't worry-there will soon be hunners and hunners of Essen Pee Cooncillors, with schools for all minority groups, class sizes averaging fifteen, and the return of belting brats.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 10:23:25
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jul 25 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]483651[/snapback]
you know i read these political threads every time and have came to the conclusion that no1 here actually knows or cares for politics. Although your statements are always just and correct I have came to the conclusion you are all using this as a plateau to use large words and make yourselves sound clever.
with that in mind here is my addition to the conversation biggrin.gif

The SNP victory in the Glasgow East by-election does appear to be a substancial push forward on the way to scottish nationalism and individualistic diplomacy. I would just hope that we do not turn into a miniature totalitarian state in which we distance ourselves so much from Westminster that we burn all social bridges with our neighbours.

Although other countries who have went down the road of parliamentary independance have flourished it is not to say that we should pack up our excrement and leave. We may not at this time be ready to go it alone and may need the extra few years of holding on to the proverbial hand on Westminster before taking our spherical sporting object and heading back to our clansman domicile a la Holyrood.

As stated by Salmond, McNeill et al, change is on the horizon. It may however need a bit of time and perseverance before the change is noticable.


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Did you plagiarise one of SPARROT'S splurges and throw in the spelling mistakes as a smoke screen?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 10:53:56
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 24 2008, 11:23 PM) [snapback]483510[/snapback]
It would have to be an outstanding pair of binoculars considering Kilkreggan from there is quite shapr to the right with a hill in the way

I see you've tried saddo! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 11:02:01
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jul 25 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]483657[/snapback]
ill has you no that SPARROT had no input whatsoever in my statemont. The speling mistakes where not that of a smok screen but that of a test...soley for you Mj. I know how much it iritates you and your OCD...or is it ADD you have?? blink.gif

It only really irritates me when grand and flowery language is littered with spelling mistakes.

For example-'I think the S.N.P are doing a reely great job' wouldn't bother me in the slightest.


Although other countries who have went down the road of parliamentary independance have flourished it is not to say that we should pack up our excrement and leave.

That does! Sorry Thrax-I'm an old fud-I know it, but it just doesn't wash with me! mellow.gif

QUOTE(cmonaton @ Jul 25 2008, 10:43 AM) [snapback]483661[/snapback]
this is probably one of the final nails in Brown's coffin.no one can say it hasn't been deserved.they have became the "smug party",we have now created a dangerous situation in Scotland.the SNP are not as great as some make out.ok they have done a reasonable job,scoring brownie points from easy targets,eg free bridge tolls.the main problem we now have all the other parties are so weak,that there is no competition in bollywood any more.aye it's a sad day for the Labour party.serves thm right for being so fcking smug,thinking they could just turn up and win.as for Margaret Curran.i have never heard so much shte being spouted since thatcher.she was the most embarrassing candiitate that Labour could have picked.

Agreed-Curran is KEECH supreme!
mortonjag 2008-07-25 11:04:06
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jul 25 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]483669[/snapback]
is it you?

no dick for you tonight

Does Dick have Herpes Labialis?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 11:07:45
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jul 25 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]483673[/snapback]
Its nice that we can take the time, to get players we cant afford, fit for our neighbours.

It was a bit strange. Does DI really want to sign another central defender?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 11:11:04
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 25 2008, 11:04 AM) [snapback]483675[/snapback]
ha

ha

ha

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you're dead funny n that

no... honestly, that was hilarious

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It just goes to show what happens when you share your wee secrets in good faith.

I've always regretted admitting that I'm polysexual.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 11:13:00
QUOTE(suda @ Jul 25 2008, 11:09 AM) [snapback]483678[/snapback]
Has the SPL not just substantially increased their deal with Setanta too, there's no way we can or should be trying to compete with those wage demands.

Yet we SHOULD be aspiring to SPL status.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 11:15:02
QUOTE(steveoath @ Jul 25 2008, 11:09 AM) [snapback]483679[/snapback]

It's still good for our 'wee' club to get publicity.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 11:16:56
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 25 2008, 11:13 AM) [snapback]483682[/snapback]
I knew that you had a penchant for boys and for sheep, but parrots?!?!?!?!?

honestly, that is just sick

Parrots, budgies, love birds, eagles, and only once a Great Tit! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 11:18:20
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jul 25 2008, 11:14 AM) [snapback]483683[/snapback]
tongue.gif i think the fact that my "grand and flowery" language was all in jest should prove thats not the way i normally speak, hence the spelling and grammar mistakes wink.gif

Excellent-I shall be keeping an eye on you! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 11:19:24
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jul 25 2008, 11:17 AM) [snapback]483689[/snapback]
I don't have to worry, Boozehound is escorting me tomorrow. Any trouble and I just get to sit back and watch the magic happen.

Does Boozie have a large wand?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 11:21:22
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 25 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]483691[/snapback]
would someone please indulge me and explain that one about rolling in flour to me?

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Are you at it? It's akin to 'Gonnae fart an' gie's a clue'?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 11:44:49
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Jul 25 2008, 11:43 AM) [snapback]483711[/snapback]
Is Drumgelloch not a seperate train from the Airdrie train mate?

I think Airdrie is the stop before Drumgelloch which is the terminus. You'd be quicker walking from Airdrie than Drumgelloch.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 11:46:16
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 25 2008, 11:23 AM) [snapback]483695[/snapback]
the title of this topic relates to muffdiving, and coldsores. Where exactly was dick mentioned, other than by you?
if that was a blue tit, would that mean you were a necrophiliac?

I am anyway-would you care to share a bottle of wine in my excellent cellar?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 11:49:40
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 25 2008, 11:31 AM) [snapback]483702[/snapback]
Ive been saying that for years now and always got slated, Annabel Goldie is the one Tory Ive always had a little bit of time for.

In an Independent Scotland I would wipe the slate clean with all political parties.


More to Auntie Annabel than meets the eye then! blush.gif
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 25 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]483706[/snapback]
No matter your views on the SNP, no one can deny that this victory looks like the start of a trend happening across the country.

Freedom is just around the corner rolleyes.gif


Is bawheid about to resign? laugh.gif
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jul 25 2008, 11:44 AM) [snapback]483712[/snapback]
sad.gif f***!

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mortonjag 2008-07-25 12:38:38
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jul 25 2008, 11:40 AM) [snapback]483708[/snapback]
Im pretty sure if we couldn't afford his wages at the end of his trial period we couldn't afford them at the start. Im struggling to see the reason for him ever being at Cappiellow. All we seemed to do was bring him to the attention of other teams up here.

Maybe he was brought up to annoy me because now every time Greasan goes for a diving header when the ball is 3 inches off the ground i'll be thinking about that time we had a decent centre half for 3 games.

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mortonjag 2008-07-25 12:39:53
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 23 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]482492[/snapback]
Avoiding my main point to pick out the little thing...you really should be a politician!!! happy.gif

I'm a liberal peer.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 13:08:14
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jul 25 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]483748[/snapback]
Prostrate probs MJ? laugh.gif

Possibly-but I've always been-I think I have supersonic kidneys.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 13:14:13
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jul 25 2008, 12:00 PM) [snapback]483722[/snapback]
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David, the more mature among us can respect other people's views and the way they present them without actually agreeing with them. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 25 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]483726[/snapback]
Brilliant, another square-heided small-minded Patriot.

Was Mason not the guy who suggested that we start naming streets after William Wallace and Robert the Bruce when speaking out against naming one after Donald Dewar? laugh.gif

What happens if you don't get a result on this 2010 Referendum then? Does Scotland turn into another Quebec, where we're having an independence referendum every other year? I'm not asking this to point score for "The Union", I genuinely want to hear SNP supporters opinion.

For the record, Curran and Mason were both crappy candidates and I'll admit that Labour is a dead horse, but I still don't like the SNP.

I have grave reservations about a bible bashing Baptist accountant-still single in his early fifties-ESPECIALLY when he's called Mason.

Curran is unadulterated quasi socialist jumped up nobody KEECH.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 13:17:51
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 25 2008, 01:15 PM) [snapback]483773[/snapback]
I didn't know I signed up to the "Disagree with my wee mob and I'll take cheap shots at your family Forum".

Oh my God is Thrax in 'the Mob'?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 13:19:56
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 25 2008, 01:18 PM) [snapback]483778[/snapback]
He's a Junior Member, but he'll earn his Porridge Badge soon enough.

Is Puggs also a mobster-how many of them share the spell-checker?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 13:23:08
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 25 2008, 01:15 PM) [snapback]483774[/snapback]
i genuinely dont get it.

Ok-and if you're takin' the piss you're a bad man.


She's so fat you can't find her 'shagging aperture'-(which is physiologically moist), so you roll her in dry white flour and then look for the wet bit!

I'd MUCH rather shag a dead sparrow hawk.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 14:14:59
QUOTE(tontric @ Jul 25 2008, 02:05 PM) [snapback]483816[/snapback]
Good !

On his day Greacen is one of the best defenders in the league. If Irons can get him to stay on his feet more often then he could have a good season.

Mon the big yin !

I think he'll do a lot better when/if got McManus alongside.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 14:25:00
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 25 2008, 01:47 PM) [snapback]483807[/snapback]
I didn't realise supporting a party was compulsory.

Can I not just think that they're all a bit sh*t?

Yip, you can in my book-party politics is full of scummery.

The other posters can argue till they are blue, red, yellow, or tartan in the face about which particular scum they favour.

Knowall c*nts on the make-the whole lot of them and none worse than King Bawheid the First.

The SNP IS the only route to independence, but with Salmond shenanigans, WILL we get it. ph34r.gif

Yesterday was all about how bad New Labour have become-it had f*ck all to do with that leering pragmatic tumshie heided buffoon.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 14:27:58
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 25 2008, 01:44 PM) [snapback]483803[/snapback]
ah i see so its just not funny then?

thats what i thought the purpose of the joke was but i thought i would give it the benefit of the doubt. anyway, no matter how fat a girl was im pretty sure that any moron would still be able to figure out where he was going. If not then just pick a random crevace between some rolls of fat and smash that instead.

plus, if she really is fat enough that you couldnt find her muff, then i would imagine that she is gonna be pretty sweaty, which would make this whole flour methodology pretty risky, as moistness would exist in several areas. you might end up pumpin tricks maws armpit or somethin like that

Don't spoil a good story!

Anyway you'd get a far better ride off a bald hedgehog.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 14:31:36
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jul 25 2008, 02:19 PM) [snapback]483821[/snapback]
Greacen McManus and two others = back 4 which I prefer but DI doesn't seem to. Most pre season we seem to have been promoting a back 3. I can't see Greacen McManus and 1 other as a back 3 (too slow).

Anyway.....at last a game of real football tomorrow.

COME ON THE TON !

Hopefully-the Renny Cup Final is ALWAYS competitive, despite what many claim/think.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 14:35:08
QUOTE(Toby @ Jul 25 2008, 02:23 PM) [snapback]483822[/snapback]
I thought everyone in Monklands was odd and unsavoury looking unsure.gif ?

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Don't forget that before the 'Monklands'-Airdrie and Coatbridge were two VERY different towns! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 14:47:44 Does anybody else like Wright's Coal Tar soap?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 15:09:38
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 25 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]483836[/snapback]
Is this Friday? unsure.gif

Nope it's a yellow Smiley like this unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 15:14:18
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 25 2008, 02:58 PM) [snapback]483837[/snapback]
I'll start off by saying I believe we would win a YES vote if a referendum was held in 2010.

Salmond is on record as saying IF it returned a NO vote then the referendum would be put to bed for a generation.

I don't agree with him on that one though. IF a NO vote was returned I would be campaigning for another referendum ASAP.

Is there a Prince Bawheid in the making, Spurtle, or would it be Nickerless the 1st-the hermaphrodite Queen?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 15:31:25
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 25 2008, 03:15 PM) [snapback]483846[/snapback]
If the public vote no then that should be the issue buried for a minimum of a decade. more likely 2 or 3.

But this all depends on what the vote will consist of as I am sure Labour and the Libe Dems (who) will demand the inclusion of a more powers option which will make the vote irrelevant imo. The vote should not include an option for this and should just consist of the YES or NO choice. If it is a straight uncomplicated vote then the will of the majority should be recognised and accepted.

Do you wish a totally independent self governing Scotland?



Yes



No




Quite simple really-that's what I want, and I'd vote YES.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 15:38:22
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 25 2008, 03:26 PM) [snapback]483852[/snapback]
Perfectly normal, though for personal hygiene reasons I would advise that your partner in fornication uses a decent bidet before the act. ph34r.gif



Word History: The word fornication had a lowly beginning suitable to what has long been the low moral status of the act to which it refers. The Latin word fornix, from which fornicÄtiÅ, the ancestor of fornication, is derived, meant "a vault, an arch." The term also referred to a vaulted cellar or similar place where prostitutes plied their trade. This sense of fornix in Late Latin yielded the verb fornicÄrÄ«, "to commit fornication," from which is derived fornicÄtiÅ, "whoredom, fornication." Our word is first recorded in Middle English about 1303.

bidet
1630, from Fr., of unknown etymology. Originally in Fr. "a small horse, a pony," thus "a vessel on a low narrow stand, which can be bestridden for bathing purposes." smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 15:42:16
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 25 2008, 03:38 PM) [snapback]483866[/snapback]
Oh Dear Alibi, you're a condescending chap are you not. blink.gif
Ach but you're a happy man today so I'll not take umbrage. laugh.gif

Bars don't get lowered, I refer you to the two spectacular govan wins for the SNP.

Bars don't get lowered, I refer you to the 1950 general election where the Tories gained 44.8% of the popular vote in Scotland. Clicky.

The votes for parties go up and down, parties gain and lose popularity.

Personally I blame it on Calf Lick skools!
mortonjag 2008-07-25 15:43:46
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 25 2008, 03:30 PM) [snapback]483858[/snapback]
I'll admit, that was funny. More through the unexpectedness, but still I laughed a little.

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mortonjag 2008-07-25 15:47:00
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jul 25 2008, 03:42 PM) [snapback]483871[/snapback]
so your saying his missus is a pony wh*re ohmy.gif

No, I was just sharing the definition of a couple of Dr Bam's medical words.

I loved 'bestridden'-it's a rather quaint term


e.g.


My little pony was bestridden by Fr. Murphy, etc.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 15:50:32 If only Auntie Annabel wore a tartan plaid and knickers-she and Bawheid could form a fine coalition.

She comes over as rather intelligent, thoughtful, and understanding. They would complement each other perfectly.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 15:57:30
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 25 2008, 03:50 PM) [snapback]483878[/snapback]
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Brown is a weasel. As I have said before, I detest him more than I do Thatcher ! mad.gif

All politicians are weasels Spurtle-you'll have to qualify the noun for proper effect.

F*ckin' weasel is emphatic but not pictorially apt.

Wicked weasel alliterates nicely but seems rather mild.

It's quite difficult really when they are all weasels.

Why not call him a serpent among weasels-that sounds just about right?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 16:00:24
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 25 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]483882[/snapback]
As Cornelius Bear put it: "Often times, it seems that the only difference between children and the insane is pride of workmanship."

Do you read many comics, Smegma? I have several old Dandies lying about my cellar-a bit decomposed, but still usable.

Would you like to visit my cellar? wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 17:38:04
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 25 2008, 04:09 PM) [snapback]483890[/snapback]
I read Achewood and one other, both online. Although I do have all but one of the Achewood books biggrin.gif

The Broons are good.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 17:44:07
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jul 25 2008, 05:17 PM) [snapback]483915[/snapback]
I was sitting watching a DVD and ended up spreading one 40 minute episode over three hours because I kept flicking over to the BBC and Sky News! Was pretty interesting to watch as ever. I'm not an SNP man, simply because I don't want independence and I don't think a majority of people would vote for it in a referendum. However, it is difficult to ignore their status at the moment, and their ongoing progress. I was yet again impressed by the way Nicola Sturgeon spoke on that panel, she is head and shoulders above the likes of Wendy Alexander, Cathy Jamieson etc. An excellent deputy. Not hard to see why Scottish Labour, let alone the Westminster party, are struggling.

The SNP have taken that opportunistic, media savvy, populist style that Tony Blair made so appealing in the 90s and are giving that treament to every candidate that runs for them! You can't help but thinking there is momentum there, and wondering when they will peak! I think the size of that swing was further proof that no seat should be considered a 'safe seat' anymore.

I do think if there was a General Election tomorrow though, that Cairns would get back in, but with a significantly reduced minority.

Only words!
mortonjag 2008-07-25 17:46:42
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 25 2008, 04:08 PM) [snapback]483889[/snapback]
Will the Midden game be webcasterised?

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Webcastrated!
mortonjag 2008-07-25 17:50:12 Morton meet St Mirren in the final of the Renfrewshire Cup this Saturday - Kick off is 3pm.

Admission prices for this match are as follows:

Adults £10

Concessions £5
mortonjag 2008-07-25 18:40:08
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 25 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]483930[/snapback]
If you like that sort of thing. My "S.O." enjoys their comedy stylings.

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mortonjag 2008-07-25 18:42:55
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 25 2008, 06:34 PM) [snapback]483943[/snapback]
You're man, you're: unlike ewer which is a pitcher with a large spout.

Ach sorry, missing the teachering bit during the hols. laugh.gif

....and rhymes with hewer which conjures up fornicative thoughts.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 18:47:04
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 25 2008, 05:55 PM) [snapback]483929[/snapback]
Sweet nothings to you Doc.



Sweet Nothings
when you stroke my face with your hands

when you whisper in my ear

when you hug me from behind

when you look at me

with that beautiful loving smile

oh, those sweet nothings

mean everything

when they're coming from you

coming from you



nickerless wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 18:49:36
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 25 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]483946[/snapback]
while you were away on holiday i won about £240 in one day on the Euros and then £100 the next day, so my luck has changed. tongue.gif

my money is on whoever is up against Iain Russell trying to outsmart them on a football field.

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Leave LEAFY alone you.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 18:50:51
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 25 2008, 06:49 PM) [snapback]483953[/snapback]
There'll be a party at my hoose when the Yes vote is delivered. I might even book the Morton Club. biggrin.gif

Will Shoogly bring a friend?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 18:54:22
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 25 2008, 06:49 PM) [snapback]483951[/snapback]
why? why do you have a silver car? does it go with your bling?

does it bring out the deep orange in your slap-on f***ing tan?

Why do you have an oak brown coffin? Were you always going against the grain?

Does it highlight the whiter shade of peuce on your hollow cheeks?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 19:06:36
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 25 2008, 06:55 PM) [snapback]483957[/snapback]
you're just trying to get it out while you still can. tongue.gif

Personally i could out smart Iain Russell on a football field, he doesn't know the offside rule....that basically makes him a woman and we all know they can't out smart men.
would like to point out this is the views of Edinton and Greenockmorton.org and not my views, im just a sheep who follows my sheperd. (added because im scared of every single female on here).

Provided they are only views, you may express them ad libitum.

I think big Khali is just a slightly more hirsute version of wee Nickerless, and can only score when there's no left wing.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 19:11:23
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 25 2008, 07:04 PM) [snapback]483962[/snapback]
I don't know Shoogly that well (I reckon he's a bit of a unionist/monarchist anyway) I only know Rae junior. What the feck, I'll invite them anyway, along with the whole Morton squad. Peter Weatherson might not show up though. (especially if it's in the Morton Club.) laugh.gif

He's been a member of Unison for years! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 19:12:23
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 25 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]483966[/snapback]
significant other

Ah-I have an IO!
mortonjag 2008-07-25 19:15:17
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 25 2008, 07:13 PM) [snapback]483971[/snapback]
Always thought that silver cars demonstrated a complete lack of personality.

Always thought that oak coffins did the same.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 19:24:17
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 25 2008, 07:20 PM) [snapback]483976[/snapback]
Most folk don't choose their own coffin though.

I have chosen a silver coffin GT.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 19:26:04
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 25 2008, 07:24 PM) [snapback]483981[/snapback]
I hate silver cars. I prefer Black cars myself. ph34r.gif

I hate lilac coloured Ford Kas-they are the epitomy of pouffery.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 19:27:59
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 25 2008, 07:18 PM) [snapback]483975[/snapback]
Actions speak louder than words MJ rolleyes.gif
• Prescription Charges - The SNP Government has cut the cost of prescription charges by a QUARTER – the first step to making them FREE by 2010. And people who suffer from chronic or long-term conditions and cancer will benefit from an immediate cut of 50% in the cost of prescription pre-payment certificates (PPCs)

• Council Tax Frozen: Under Labour, between 1996-97 and 2007-08 Council Tax in Glasgow rose by 51% and the city now has the second highest Council Tax in Scotland. The SNP Government secured a deal with Local Authorities, including Glasgow, to freeze Council Tax for 2008/09 and is moving to scrap the Council tax – benefiting 72% of Glasgow residents.

• Businesses Helped Local Business is at the heart of regeneration in the East End. To help improve the local economy, the SNP Government is reducing or abolishing business rates for almost 16,000 businesses in Glasgow through the Small Business Bonus.

• Commonwealth Games Legacy: The SNP Government is funding 80% of the costs of the Commonwealth Games and is ensuring a lasting legacy for the games with investment in youth sports facilities and following pressure from the SNP Government, the Big Lottery Fund have announced a '2014 Communities' fund to ensure a lasting legacy from the Commonwealth Games – starting with half a million in 2008/09.

• Regeneration: The Fairer Scotland Fund will invest over £150m in Glasgow alone over the next 3 years. Also, the Clyde Gateway regeneration scheme, which spans Glasgow and South Lanarkshire, has been awarded £62 million by the SNP Government.

• Central Heating Programme - The SNP Government has increased installations of central heating systems from 13,500 a year under the previous administration to nearly 15,000 a year – the highest number ever.

• Increase in police numbers: Thanks to the SNP's commitment to delivering 1000 extra police, Strathclyde Police has the funds to increase their number of officers by 750 over the next three years. The first 150 of the SNP's 1000 extra police have just graduated from the Police Training College at Tulliallan.

• Crime Cut in East Glasgow under the SNP: The Enhanced Policing Plan (EPP), a Strathclyde Police led initiative funded by the SNP Government's Community Regeneration Fund, has seen crime drop significantly since its launch in October 2007. Within six months crime levels have dropped significantly in Sprinboig, Barlanark and Greenfield (24%); Parkhead (22%); Shettleston/Tollcros
s (10%) and Wellhouse (10%).

• Tackling Gangs: In Government the SNP has invested an additional £200,000 to tackle gang violence and territorialism with over £16,000 going into support Strathclyde police's anti-gang work in Easterhouse.

• Cash back for Communities: This SNP Government scheme uses money taken from organised criminals and reinvests it in youth projects in deprived areas. Projects in and around Glasgow East are already benefiting from the scheme: Cranhill Arts Project has received £4,730 in funding; The Sound Lab has received £11,827; and Reidvale Adventure Play Association has been awarded £4,812.

• Hospitals: The SNP Government has provided £842 million of public money to replace the Southern General Hospital, which previous Labour Government's had neglected. Also, one of the very first actions of the SNP upon becoming the Government was to save the Accident and Emergency department at nearby Monklands.

• Free Personal Care: The SNP initiated the first increase in Free Personal Care Payments in line with inflation, and invested an extra £40m to meet shortfalls in the service. In contrast Labour in Westminster refused to return attendance allowance to Scotland.

• Bus Travel Concessionary Fares: The SNP Government has increased support for bus travel with extra funding of £12m over the next three years. Funding for bus transport is 31% higher per capita in Scotland under the SNP than in England and Wales under Labour and the SNP Government has announced plans to extend the scheme for injured veterans in recognition of their service.

• Free Education: The SNP has reintroduced grants for part – time students, helping those in areas like Glasgow East who are working hard for a better future.

• John Wheatley College: The SNP Government acted to ensure the long term viability of John Wheatley College in Glasgow, which has campuses in Shettleston and Easterhouse, by protecting its charitable status.

• Housing: Since the SNP came to power 16 local housing associations have been given approval by GHA to proceed to Second Stage Transfer, with another 17 in discussions to do the same. In Glasgow East, Parkhead Housing Association is aiming to ballot tenants on SST on the 17th of November.

• Nursery Education: Free nursery education has been increased to 475 hours per year for 3-4 year olds.

And your point is? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 19:29:27
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 25 2008, 07:27 PM) [snapback]483986[/snapback]
Aye it is.

You'll probably claim that working for local government is nowt to do with your lack of personality as well.

What livery does Taun Taun favour on his Smart car?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 19:31:33
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 25 2008, 07:29 PM) [snapback]483993[/snapback]
You said, only words. I said, action speaks louder than words, and gave examples blink.gif




Actions cannot speak Spurtle-you've been listening to Politicians again.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 21:08:55
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 25 2008, 07:56 PM) [snapback]484017[/snapback]
Well let's hope you don't need any prescriptions or one of the newly graduated Policemen/woman to help you.

The prescription charges measure was done for popularity Spurtle, and in a random fashion too. The NHS needs MORE money. Perhaps actions DO speak louder than words!

Nickerless is a pathetically plastic little people pleaser with as much fiscal savoir faire as a dead haggis, and she badly needs a shave.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 21:12:56
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 25 2008, 08:18 PM) [snapback]484031[/snapback]
i'm sure mr rae would humour smegmajag in his bid for canonisation rip.gif

Very occasionally Alistair your puerile splutterings are viciously amusing.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 21:24:25
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 25 2008, 07:30 PM) [snapback]483994[/snapback]
and you would be the epitome of silver-car driving poncery.

Aye right son!

QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 25 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]484037[/snapback]
My mum AND dad have got silver cars though. Saabs at that. What does this mean?

My dad's a great guy! Does look like Fred West though, so you're maybe onto something here.


Some Saabs are not poncey or silver!
mortonjag 2008-07-25 21:29:07
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 25 2008, 07:59 PM) [snapback]484020[/snapback]
anyone checked companies house recently? rolleyes.gif

much heat, little light biggrin.gif

Check yourself you tight fisted c*nt-it'll cost you an English pound.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 21:33:21
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jul 25 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]484039[/snapback]
Sorry MJ, your resentment of all things Rae is clouding your judgement here.

Major supermarket and distributor deals don't come out of haphazard marketing, as anyone with a young family (or a sweet tooth cool.gif ) will tell you Millions are everywhere across this land.

The fact that the marketing at Cappielow is so poor is all the more puzzling.

I agree on the sponsorship though, it was a good gesture a few seasons ago however I'd love to know when we last benchmarked the amount that GC pay versus the amount other clubs of our size receive.

Is the 25K or whatever the figure is still value for money?

I'm interested in facts, not opinions Cawston. Produce the facts and I'll believe you. Forty nine employees in a Feart Matilda sweatshop and a profit of less than £2million p.a. is VERY small beer in the confectionery world.

That's a FACT. laugh.gif

Oh and this 'resentment of all things Rae' thing-why has that old chestnut popped out again.

I F*CKING RESENT THAT ACCUSATION.

I'm not a resentful person. I pity Shoogly-he often angers me, and sometimes I utterly abhor his misguided behaviour. I am entitled to state my opinions surely, without the usual lies from folk like yourself! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 21:47:51
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 25 2008, 09:33 PM) [snapback]484055[/snapback]

You are treading on very dangerous ground Spurtle. Has it never occurred to you that Bawheid and Nickerless are a cartoonist's dream pair.

How I WISH I could draw!

Salmond really has the most grotesque face since Quasimodo after his plastic surgery, and Nickerless typifies unshaven dykery.

Fran and Anna WERE MUCH more talented in every way.


It's a sure measure of the level to which New Labour has plummetted that that pair of wannabes is 'leading' our nation.

Shoogly and LEAFY would do a better job-guaranteed.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 21:51:06
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Jul 25 2008, 09:45 PM) [snapback]484057[/snapback]
I saw in today's paper "Strach says bye bye to big buys". It's all about how Celtic can not afford to make the signings that the supporters are expecting and Strachan saying that the youngsters will be more involved this season. He is quoted as saying something along the lines of "We have Cilian, Paul, and Gowser there". Looks like Gowser could be part of his plans.

Maybe that's why he's a Celtic player! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 21:52:52
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 25 2008, 07:29 PM) [snapback]483990[/snapback]
i've got a signed print of the 'ching chong wing wong' strip.

Fantastic.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 21:54:11
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 25 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]484010[/snapback]
sure he didn't just tell you he'd blew his load and you misunderstood?

I suspect he was a flat fish shagging freak.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 21:55:58
QUOTE(RadolfZitler @ Jul 25 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]484060[/snapback]
an alias of Duncy McNeil?

No.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 22:39:12
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 25 2008, 10:00 PM) [snapback]484064[/snapback]
ill check that its you

Bryan-do you want to speak to RSBH about overseeing this-it's surely a good idea.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 22:40:53
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 25 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]484075[/snapback]
we await the manifesto from our very own tit

Do you ever post when sober Alistair?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 22:44:56
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 25 2008, 10:02 PM) [snapback]484065[/snapback]
Silver = no personality I may as well rope myself up or change my name by deed poll

Don't take it too personally Chrissiboi-folk who think the colour of somebody's car signifies much are misguided fools.

Colour AND model-that's often different. Guys who drive psychedelic hearses are dead cert extraverts! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 22:46:21
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 25 2008, 10:16 PM) [snapback]484071[/snapback]
aw, sorry mentaljag. did i get under your skin there? what was it, the spelling mistake? or maybe you don't like to think of yourself as predictable.

well, boo hoo. why don't you call me 'sonny', it'll make you feel important again.

No. drink.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 22:57:46
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jul 25 2008, 10:39 PM) [snapback]484077[/snapback]
Settle down now old yin.

Firstly, don't accuse me of lying. Let's have some common courtesy please. It's all about opinions after all.

Secondly, when you persist in sideways, frontways, east, west, north, south but mostly backways digs at Dougie on many, many, many threads on this board then I'm sure you'll excuse me for forming the opinion that you resent all things Rae.

Oh, and did you just allude that 'Golden Casket at Fort Matilda is a Sweatshop' is a statement of fact? Maybe the mods want to consider the implications of that!
How about opinions dressed up as facts, does that interest you?

Settle down yourself! rolleyes.gif

Fact: You stated that I was resentful-NOT that that was your opinion! You have only now qualified that.

Fact: I mentioned 'a sweatshop at FEART MATILDA' laugh.gif -maybe the Mods would like to consider the implications of that indeed-oh-and thanks for inviting them-that's put you up MILES in my estimation! dry.gif

Fact: There is more than one way of presenting opinion, as those who have the wit to read my posts incisively will confirm.

Fact: I've been very calm all evening. It's been a beautiful day here-it's still 20 C outside-I've had a lovely chicken tikka tandoori masala, appropriately washed down, and shortly I'm off to bed with the Monkey! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 08:00:52 'Young striker ready for final push'
Paul McGowan has 10 months to extend a Celtic career that has already spanned 10 years.

The 20 year-old striker has taken advantage of a rash of injuries and absentees, as well as Celtic's reluctance to rush into making new signings, and forced his way into first-team contention during the club's tour of Portugal.

Entering the final year of his contract, McGowan is aware of the need to make a telling impact if his association with the club he joined a decade ago isn't to be severed next summer.
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"I've got a year left so it's make or break for me. If I don't do well this season then who knows where I will be playing next year? I'm coming to an age where I am going to need regular first-team football but it's a dog-eat-dog world.

"A few injuries have happened that have given me my chance. I know that's a hard thing to say but it's true. The gaffer is putting on young boys - look at Paul Caddis playing against Barcelona in the Champions League last season.

"I feel that if I can hang in there then, hopefully, my time will come. If not then you hold your hands up and say it wasn't meant to be. Leaving Celtic would be the hardest thing to do. But I believe in myself and think I can become a Celtic player if I get my chance."

After a successful season-long loan spell at Morton in 2006/07, where he finished the campaign as the club's top scorer, McGowan realised a lifelong dream when he finally made his first-team debut for the Parkhead side against Inverness Caledonian Thistle last September.

"I've been at the club since I was about 10 so to run out at Celtic Park was a dream come true," he recalled. "I used to clean the boots at the club so to be part of the first-team set-up now is amazing. To go out and play in front of 60,000 is a dream."

McGowan, who does not expect to be allowed to go back out on loan this season, cited Stephen McManus, the Celtic captain, as his role model.

"I just have to look at Stephen McManus. Look how long he waited to get a chance and now he's the Celtic captain and playing week in, week out. That's got to be an incentive for everyone. He had to bide his time then the gaffer came in and gave him his chance and then gave him the captaincy."
mortonjag 2008-07-26 08:09:54
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Jul 26 2008, 12:04 AM) [snapback]484104[/snapback]
I don't get all this antagonism towards the Millions logo on the strips - I like the font (thinks it's quite funky to be honest). When people say they hate the logo, I'm not quite sure what irks them.

If it's a question of aesthetics - I like it it but each to their own.

If it's a moral issue i.e. Millions rot kiddies teeth - fair do's - I fully understand that.

If it's a financial thing i.e. Dougie has knocked back better money in favour of promoting his own company - unwelcome but owner's perogative unfortunately.

Finally, Mortonjag - why do you allude to 1st August in your avatar? If something's going down pray tell. I'm not into all that secretive PM nonsense, so a straight forward answer will suffice, ta.

George

To somebody who can understand the inner workings of port-ton's mind, that question is a total conundrum.

Oh, and BTW, I do exchange personal messages-they are intended to be a secret, just as I imagine, is the number of times you've had your nookie in the last year!

Happy to answer the question once I know what it is! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 08:12:47
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Jul 26 2008, 12:23 AM) [snapback]484114[/snapback]
I echo these wise sentiments.....

So do I George, even if Forza is a total buzzelcrud.

Incidentally, why does your avatar depict a soup can? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 08:14:55
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jul 24 2008, 03:44 PM) [snapback]483205[/snapback]
The lights are on Russell but there's no-one at the wheel these days.

EXACTLY my boy-they can't steer LEAFY a through pass for peanuts.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 08:18:55 My IO's reading an Ian Rankin book. She claim's he's a Morton supporter.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 08:25:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 26 2008, 02:53 AM) [snapback]484131[/snapback]
It used to be said of the Liberal party in the 60s and 70s that they could fit into a London cab. If the 22.54% swing from Labour last night were replicated at the next general election, Labour would be looking at about four taxis, or possibly a stretch limo.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/ju...donbrown.labour
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

anyone got an appropriate caption for this wee photo ?

"Come unto me, all ye that labour, and are heavy-laden, and I will give you rest"
mortonjag 2008-07-26 08:29:16
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 25 2008, 11:32 PM) [snapback]484094[/snapback]
Like girl on girl?

More like shagging a lemon's hole.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 08:31:09
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 25 2008, 11:57 PM) [snapback]484099[/snapback]
f*** up u pair of boring, irrelevant old sacks

There is clearly no queuer for you.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 08:52:54
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 26 2008, 12:37 AM) [snapback]484117[/snapback]
there's a poster on here who's a doctor
when his mother gave birth they all mocked her
what had just slithered out
of her big hairy clout
made her query the species that c***ed her



That post equates to laughing at your own jokes. It's a passable Limerick-no more. Anyway I see you avoided the question! mad.gif

Oh my Forza has a plooky nose
His underpants are broon
His hands are worn and smell of pee
He'll need to wash them soon

So fair art thee my bonny lad
So deep in love am I
And I will love thee still, my dear
Till a' the seas gang dry.

Till a' the seas gang dry, my dear
I still will hump your bum
And I will love you still my dear,
My sense of smell is numb.

And fare thee well my only love
Get treatment for thae piles
And I will come again my love
Tho' it were ten thousand miles..
mortonjag 2008-07-26 09:02:15
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 26 2008, 08:01 AM) [snapback]484135[/snapback]
I don't mind plates with initials and maybe numbers that mean something to the person who owns it. People who try and make the plate look like their name with numbers, that obviously look f*** all like the name, that's different. rolleyes.gif

Correct Mrs T-I call those 'Mickey Mouse' numbers-they are often utterly pathetic.

The market in proper cherished numbers has been diluted by those clowns. I bought my private plate for my son's hire limo seven years ago-cost £8000. Now I'd be lucky to get £5000 back, and that's the only reason I'm hanging on to it. Patience will be rewarded when the Mickey Mouse plates become more common than the standard ones from the DVLA-I believe we're almost there already!

Oh and Forza-the cheapest private plates start at about £70, less than you'll have to spend on that Coal Tar Soap. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 09:03:54
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 26 2008, 08:39 AM) [snapback]484153[/snapback]
It is a sweatshop.

smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 09:05:02
QUOTE(Staples @ Jul 26 2008, 08:35 AM) [snapback]484151[/snapback]
cheers something less to worry about happy.gif

You can still use the stand and smoke outside-adjacent to the commercial office and toilets.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 09:17:35
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 26 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]484162[/snapback]
I used to like Wright's Coal Tar soap, not had it for years though. Get yourself into Lush and treat yourself to some lovely soap MJ, i am currently using a porridge one, lovely. wub.gif

I don't like pouffe soaps-I want to smell like a real man! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 09:21:53
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jul 26 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]484164[/snapback]
It's on the playlist...

Way ahead of ye Mrs T wink.gif

May I request that you play 'Blockbuster' today. I'm sure Shoogly will approve of a choon by 'The Sweet'.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 09:59:28
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Jul 26 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]484174[/snapback]
....I suppose asking for a straight answer was a bit whimsical, ah well......

unsure.gif

The board's (arguably) most lateral thinker is bemused.

My 'avatar' and 1st August-maybe if you give a tiny clue you'll get your answer! happy.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 10:04:07
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 26 2008, 09:22 AM) [snapback]484167[/snapback]
They have mens soaps as well. You can get Bob Soap, that's for men, or Happy Hippy, i thin k that would suit you best. wink.gif



I have a cornucopia of unused pouffe soaps Mrs T-my IO keeps threatening to offload them to 'Children in Need'.

Wright's Coal Tar Soap is the biz-it gets into parts other soaps can't reach! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 10:07:14
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 26 2008, 09:35 AM) [snapback]484172[/snapback]
laugh.gif rich flash t*** despises poor flash twats for ruining his investment. that's a real f***ing tearjerker, that is.

laugh.gif

Sold yer wee top floor tenement yet?

QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jul 26 2008, 09:47 AM) [snapback]484173[/snapback]
I agree about private numbers being a waste of money, if I was a multi-millionaire I wouldn't have one, don't see the point in them myself, but each to their own.


They WERE an investment until the DVLA got greedy.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 10:09:38
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jul 26 2008, 09:23 AM) [snapback]484168[/snapback]
Maybes aye.

I've got some Prokofiev for you!

p.s. the band is called 'Sweet'. No 'The'! wink.gif

Not the one about Spoonsy and the baying fans? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 10:11:52
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Jul 26 2008, 09:58 AM) [snapback]484175[/snapback]
I like Andy Warhol's work, thought it was a cool picture.

Re my question about your avatar, it was your quote in big letters about Dougie being leader until 1st Agust I was asking about, even if that's not an avatar? smile.gif

So you got it wrong!

Please copy and paste the quote, and I shall provide your answer.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 10:14:05
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 26 2008, 10:12 AM) [snapback]484183[/snapback]
I have no preference to colour of car, current model is I believe called British Racing Green, metallic job and looks well when I can be arsed washing it.

The only colour I truly hated was one that Toyota did a few years ago on their Corollas - it was hearing aid beige and I can't believe anyone bought one of them.

TonInDublin



Correction-NHS hearing aid beige-otherwise known as muted keech.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 10:15:22
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 26 2008, 10:13 AM) [snapback]484184[/snapback]
no, we're renting it out. perhaps you can spell out the connection between me selling my flat and you running about in the automotive equivalent of a sovereign ring?

Overpriced-I effin knew it! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 10:19:50
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 26 2008, 10:14 AM) [snapback]484185[/snapback]
I lived in Airdrie for several months.

The Train station 'Airdrie' is on the Drumgelloch line and as correctly pointed out is one stop before The Drum.
You get a low level train from Queen St and there every 15mins leaving at 12,27,42 and 57minutes past the hour.
Journey time is appox 25mins.

There's a cracking wee pub just up from the Station called The Imperial which I'd recommend if you fancy a few in Airdrie before going to the game.

They'll call you a cab if you then want to go the the Stadium which is probably a couple of miles away.

Alternatively there's plenty of taxi's that sit right outside Airdrie Station.


I didn't know you'd been a temporary 'Nazi', Willy Man. I was a G.P.in the town for ten years and still confuse Cairnhill Rd., with Carlisle Rd-the reason I thought Airdie Station was closer to the football stadium-which I always still imagine to be at Broomfield!

I'm sure you'll agree that Airdrie is a douce wee presbyterian toon-and anything but 'Nazi'! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 10:21:43
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 26 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]484189[/snapback]
well, i'm no on the swally noo but private reg plates are still for wankers. i knew mortonjag would have one rolleyes.gif

It's a beautiful blue!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 10:24:43
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 26 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]484192[/snapback]
*groan*
Anyway, strangely not excited by this one...but I'll go for 1-0 home victory. Wake to get the goal and Russell to be caught offside approximately 3,500 times.



COPYCAT-and it WILL be


LEAFY
mortonjag 2008-07-26 10:26:27
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jul 26 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]484193[/snapback]
Nice car mate.

TY Weegie-the Monkey and Fing are very proud of daddy's motor! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 10:29:05
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 26 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]484196[/snapback]
You've been trying to float that nickname since he arrived and it's still not caught on. Give it up Dr....

Don't you dare attribute motives to my simple and innocent postings.

For me, he'll always be


LEAFY
mortonjag 2008-07-26 10:30:25
QUOTE(Mr.Kennedy @ Jul 26 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]484198[/snapback]
I noticed that at the Ayr game, sure it wasn't the first time but I have a bad memory.

Maybe Shoogly knew more about the home fans than we imagined!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 11:06:00
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Jul 26 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]484203[/snapback]
QUOTE(Mags @ Jul 24 2008, 08:28 PM)
Both parties benefit ....where's the harm in that ?
I wouldn't call Spain,Portugal,Canary Islands,Balearics etc 'outlandish places'

The company even had a prime advertising spot during The Simpsons...hardly haphazard but as I said,the name isn't important as long as the club benefit from it.

Mags.

Well nobody's heard of them in Warrington, Redcar, or Poolewe!
QUOTE(Mags @ Jul 24 2008, 08:29 PM)
Long live Shoogly....
Mags.

Indeed-LONG LIVE SHOOGLY TILL AUGUST 1ST

Oh that Georgie Boy-you WILL need to keep up! rolleyes.gif

I've promised to 'bury' Shoogly for three months from August 1st, in aid of Ardgowan Hospice.

That is provided somebody gets things properly organised.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 11:13:55
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 26 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]484221[/snapback]
i might get a car. are they any good? i've seen some people driving them.

Might be best to get the feel of a mobility scooter first-they're all the rage those days, and can go places normal cars can't reach.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 11:16:28
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 26 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]484197[/snapback]
so what's the connection between my flat and your vanity plate?

Somebody mentioned a connection between my innocent wee number plate and your flagrant Capitalism? huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 11:18:22
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 26 2008, 11:13 AM) [snapback]484230[/snapback]
It's because you no longer 'Deal With Drugs' that you've been refused re-entry.




I see he couldn't sell it anyway, so I don't care! tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 11:32:50
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 26 2008, 11:29 AM) [snapback]484246[/snapback]
eh? what the f*** are you on about now.

and it might be an innocent number plate to you, but to most people it's a big yellow badge that says 'arsehole'.

laugh.gif

Even to flagrant Capitalists trying to flog a top floor tenement for a cool quarter of a million.

I warned you about leaving those mingin' trainers on top of the Aga. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 11:39:08
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 26 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]484249[/snapback]
When you typoed this the re-count was just about complete.

They just take an age to announce it.

All votes were counted by 12.45am and the result was known within minutes.
SNP victory.

The problem and the reason for the recount, was that there was two Curran's on the ballot paper right next to each other and with it being such a slender majority and the pressure put on the Enumerators by the activists and media could easily have led to them being mixed up or put in the wrong bundle.

1.15am re-count started and within 30mins it was finished, normally at this stage we'd be allowed to go however we were not dismissed until 2.45am !!!

I've got to say the media attention was unbelievable, there must have been at least a dozen TV camera's on the staging with another dozen mobile, that's not counting the Newspaper reporters and cameramen.

There's a two foot barrier they're not meant to cross between them and Enumerators but that was soon demolished as the boxes arrived.

I had a camera approx 6inch from my face, not a pretty sight for the cameraman laugh.gif , and the shouting and questioning towards us was unreal.

We also had a trained TV camera, bird was beautiful mind you, on us at all times and about 8 folk permanently based in front of our table just staring at you and counting as you're counting which can be quite off putting.

When Curran amd Mason arrived it was media mayhem and then instead of continuing to walk by mason stopped at one of the Enumerators tables for a photo shoot, chaos reigned.

One of the counters beside me was mason's Secretary so he came over in between counts and seemed very pleasant to talk to. I also got speaking to a really genuine lady Glasgow Listed SNP MSP and thought wouldn't it be great if Inverclyde could be represented by a person who cares rather than that eejit Cairns.

Sarwar and his cronies were alos present, and good ole Tommy Boy who gave Curran an exceptional welsome.

Once the cheering of her presence had calmed down Tommy BOy got up and started to sing, Cheerio, Cheerio, Cheerio.

We were all Pissing ourselves with laughter.

Anyway eventually got away and Casino bound I was.

Let's just say when I left the casino McDonalds had opened and daylight was well upon me.

1.5hrs kip and it was up again to go to work.

As I had been made a job offer, late on the Thursday, I was still buzzing so tiredness was not an issue, until we went for a pub lunch and a few pints.

Mid-Afternoon Willowman was inspecting the insides of his eyelids laugh.gif
All in all a great experience and very easy money if you can shut yourself off from the jostling crowds.




Was he looking exceptionally brown?
mortonjag 2008-07-26 11:46:53
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 26 2008, 11:39 AM) [snapback]484253[/snapback]
are you keeping notes on me, you creepy old man?

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I keep a close eye on all the extremes of our pubic massage board-from those epitomes of the working man in their grossy overpriced Hyndland penthouses, right down to the Pompously Plagiaristic SPARROT weans in their knife crime rife schemes. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 11:48:08
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 26 2008, 11:40 AM) [snapback]484255[/snapback]
Nae luck, I'm driving to the game, so it's sobriety central for me. sad.gif

Hopefully the new motor won't get tanned by all those yobs in waiting!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 11:50:20
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 26 2008, 11:31 AM) [snapback]484247[/snapback]
naw. they're pish, buy a bike instead.

Indeed- a bicyclette sans private plate is the hallmark of the Hyndland ponce! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 11:53:29
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 26 2008, 11:36 AM) [snapback]484250[/snapback]
Holed below the waterline. tongue.gif

Does Mummy know you've been shagging in the bath SPARROT?
mortonjag 2008-07-26 12:00:06
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 26 2008, 11:57 AM) [snapback]484273[/snapback]
laugh.gif you've got a wee database going, don't you? i bet you're on some databases yourself, you creepy wee fart.

I wouldn't know a database if I met it in my porridge.

I can spot a Capitalist from a mile away-wearing rose tints and a clothes peg on my bugle! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 12:02:33
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 26 2008, 12:00 PM) [snapback]484277[/snapback]
i prefer to call mine 'le velo'.

Ponciness par excellence-I take it you call your partner's poosy 'mon petit chat'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 12:15:35
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 26 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]484281[/snapback]
That's how I recognised him laugh.gif

Can't keep a good chancer down-eh! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 12:17:31
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 26 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]484276[/snapback]
Your lack of wit is only matched by your lack of invention.
Must do better.
1/10.

Twas a serious question-clearly I was attributing more subtlety to you than you merit.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 12:21:58
QUOTE(big blue eyes @ Jul 26 2008, 12:19 PM) [snapback]484288[/snapback]
He is lovely!

Zoe wub.gif

He is older than you, and married with a child-why don't you focus on somebody your own age? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 12:24:12
QUOTE(big blue eyes @ Jul 26 2008, 12:23 PM) [snapback]484292[/snapback]
Go away you sad old creep. unsure.gif

Would you like to visit Mortonjag's cellar, child? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 12:28:01
QUOTE(big blue eyes @ Jul 26 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]484296[/snapback]
You're truly a sick old man. I don't believe a word about you being a doctor. My Mum thinks you probably ARE a pervert.

Now I'm off to get sorted for the game-so don't waste your time with another of your pathetic replies. nerd.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-26 12:29:32
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 26 2008, 12:25 PM) [snapback]484294[/snapback]
No: you were, as usual, being facetious.
A stuck record indeed.

Ok-I give in-I knew all the time that you've never had your hole.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 12:32:54
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jul 26 2008, 12:30 PM) [snapback]484299[/snapback]
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Yada..yada..yada..backtrack..bactrack..

Save it for your impressionable 12 year olds MJ wink.gif

Glorious again today, looks like I'll be cutting the grass while you lot are off enjoying the mighties horsing the skunks sad.gif


Aye well chop off a couple of toes while you're at it! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 12:35:00
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 26 2008, 12:33 PM) [snapback]484301[/snapback]
Clearly Mortonjag's "knowledge" is unfounded.

Hmm-you WERE posing as Port-ton that night-my arse took a week to recover.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 12:36:57
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jul 26 2008, 12:34 PM) [snapback]484302[/snapback]
Are you a reporter, or do you work in a paper shop? unsure.gif

She works in a dentists-maybe just filling you in.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 12:39:09
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jul 26 2008, 12:36 PM) [snapback]484304[/snapback]
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So where does this rate on the Mortonjag sliding scale of fact vs opinion biggrin.gif

It seems her Mum is of the opinion that Mortonjag is a pervert, and that the child is of the opinion that Mortonjag is not a doctor.

Mortonjag is a perverted ex doctor-so they both got some of it right I guess.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 12:40:44
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jul 26 2008, 12:38 PM) [snapback]484306[/snapback]
Boom Boom! rolleyes.gif I love it on here, people know everything about everything! wink.gif

I extract my information solely from our massage board, Your Majesty!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 12:45:24
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jul 26 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]484310[/snapback]
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I always fear the worst vs the skunko's, so I'll say 2-1 to them and hope for the best.

I'm embarrassed to say this yet again.

1-0 to the Ton.


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mortonjag 2008-07-26 12:54:46
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jul 26 2008, 12:52 PM) [snapback]484314[/snapback]
So you've heard about my lawn mowing skills tongue.gif

I know all about your chopper too! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 12:58:42
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jul 26 2008, 12:56 PM) [snapback]484318[/snapback]
According to Mabawsa Ritchie, who usually seems to know his/her stuff, over on P&B we've sold almost 1100 tickets so far for this season, that sounds pretty good to me but does anyone know how that stacks up with previous seasons?

The first season after Shug when tickets were massively discounted I think we sold somewhere around the same number.

I predict sales will be much higher at that point.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 13:00:51
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 26 2008, 12:57 PM) [snapback]484319[/snapback]
Was McGowan our top scorer that year?

I thought it was Weatherson by some way, but perhaps Gowsa scored more in the league if that's what it meant.

Maybe they meant the wee man was our top 'STRIKER'!


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mortonjag 2008-07-26 13:07:34
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 26 2008, 01:03 PM) [snapback]484322[/snapback]
Indeed, just don't smoke!

F'cking disgusting standing beside some one trying to make cancerbags of us all.

Even worse having to move away from them. dry.gif

Shove them all in the one corner of Sinclair St away from the healthy(er) people!


That's not so much passive smoking as nicotine terrorism!

At least we don't have to suffer from them the effects of that extra pre-kick off swally-last time some drink sodden slob pished all over my new trainers in the lavvy.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 13:21:50
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 26 2008, 01:08 PM) [snapback]484325[/snapback]
I assure that had nothing to do with drink. rolleyes.gif

Wrong again SPARROT, and I had to get a taxi home. blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 13:23:41
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jul 26 2008, 01:18 PM) [snapback]484328[/snapback]
Groin strain? laugh.gif

Hernia? blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 13:25:45
QUOTE(Methadome Here We Come @ Jul 26 2008, 01:08 PM) [snapback]484324[/snapback]
There's some seriously narrow minded souls on this thread I'm afraid.

Some St Mirren fans aren't happy with the move, but they are the delusional ones. The fact is that we had a big debt due to mismanagement by a previous board. We had no way of paying this off, apart from selling the ground. That has now been done and we are in the black for the first time in the best part of 2 decades.

With the move are now in a position where we can consolidate in the SPL. If the ground hadn't been sold then I've got no doubt that we'd be playing your lot next season. Clearing the debt in the last year allowed us to pay more wages to bring in Haining, Dargo, Mason, Dorman, etc and they helped us finish 10th. Dorman is, arguably, the best player we've had at the club since the 1980s.

We'd be in a worse situation than Killie who will probably be settling back into lower league football in the near future. Our prize money / Setanta money for last season was £900K. In a couple of years this will be up to around £1.5 million. I believe that the prize money for winning the first division is somewhere around £40K. The gap between SPL and SFL is going to widen considerably in the next few years. Yep it's fairly hideous and doesn't do Scottish football any good as a whole, but you've got to be selfish and I know where I want my club to be. I'm sure you'd think the same.

So....... give all of that up to stay at Love Street? Ehhh no thanks. I want to see St Mirren moving forward and we are.

As for the new place itself, I think it will be what we make of it. Love Street has 'character', but it's a 19th century football stadium and I think the atmosphere has been pish since the seats went in. The home fans are a long way away from the away fans and the North Bank is too shallow to generate any noise. The argument against these lego stadiums is that they're soulless and there's definitely some truth in that. It will be very similar to others and people hate places like Rugby Park, McDiarmid, Broadwood, etc.

The difference is that these grounds have about 8000 empty seats every week. That's not going to happen at our place 'The Methadome' will be smaller and it's actually a perfect size for a provincial Scottish club. It should always be at least half full with fans in every stand close to the pitch. There's the financial side of it as well. We've got conference facilities, 5 a-side pitches, corporate hospitality rooms, which = £££££££. We need to generate more money off the pitch to compete in the SPL.

Anyway, you can judge for yourselves when you visit for the Renfrewshire Cup next season. Unfortunately for you, you won't be playing us in the league any time soon. The days of St Mirren scrambling around in the 1st division are gone and unless your board comes up with something similar to ours then you'll never play SPL football.

They'll probably accept that from a skunk, better than from their own!!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 13:31:20
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 26 2008, 01:23 PM) [snapback]484333[/snapback]
I suspect that had more to do with age than alcohol.

Well you're wrong-I normally open my legs very wide, carefully remove my little wrinkly friend, and let him dribble gravitationally for however long it takes-sometimes, but not always-I've time to grab a Bovril on the way back. Never before have I splattered my pink trainers, and NEVER before have I been unfit to drive home.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 13:34:14
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 26 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]484340[/snapback]
Every day is a day older. blush.gif

How can a day have an age?
mortonjag 2008-07-26 13:36:11
QUOTE(Methadome Here We Come @ Jul 26 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]484342[/snapback]
Amazed that you're able to see into the future!

If you're really interested it will look something the lines of Shrewsbury's new stadium when completed;

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI like that-the colours are excellent!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 13:44:54
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 26 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]484346[/snapback]
Not only incontinent but facetious.
Never a good mix.

Prostatism does not equate to incontinence.

I'm just about to leave for the match.


C'Mon LEAFY
mortonjag 2008-07-26 13:48:13
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 26 2008, 01:45 PM) [snapback]484350[/snapback]
You take life too seriously.

You should go out and buy a hamster and a cat and put them in a cage and let them fight to the death.
That's what civilised people do, Kilma neanderthal.

She's only a sweet young lass who doesn't understand this auld c*nt GG!

Anyway-toodlepip and


C'MON LEAFY

p.s. hope Newby's on the bench! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 20:14:46
QUOTE(Russell#1 @ Jul 26 2008, 05:35 PM) [snapback]484400[/snapback]
1-1 and The midden win on pens.

LEAFY 2


(1 Pen, and NOT ONE OFFSIDE)
mortonjag 2008-07-26 20:17:03
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 26 2008, 06:26 PM) [snapback]484425[/snapback]
LEAFY

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Leafy was utterly AMAZING!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 20:22:34
QUOTE(stuart @ Jul 26 2008, 03:10 PM) [snapback]484360[/snapback]
Hard lines Leafy.

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QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 26 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]484361[/snapback]
1-0 Russell - Mon the TON


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QUOTE(rawheed rex @ Jul 26 2008, 05:12 PM) [snapback]484394[/snapback]
what the f uck was greacen hiting first pen all a boot ph34r.gif

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QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 26 2008, 06:24 PM) [snapback]484424[/snapback]
Wasn't a great game by any matter of means due to it not being comepletly compeititive, some wee nigly moments as you would expect, but not a full blooded affair.

Morton started brightly, with Russell in good form from the start. He deservedly got a goal and MotM. He looks up for it this season.
Newby still has to settle in by the looks of it. Plenty of effort and running though.

The midfield needs a player like Jenkins to come in to help Masterton create chances. Too many defensive midfielders at the moment all playing the same game.

Our goalie gave us a few heart in the mouth moments by refusing to come off his line. For his height he doesn't comand his area at all. Didn't have a bad game apart from that.

All in all, not too bad a performance in a game that looked like a friendly to me. Pleased with Finlayson and especially Russell who had a great game.

McAllister is playing too deep in my opinion, and as mentioned a bit wasted in that position


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QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jul 26 2008, 06:31 PM) [snapback]484428[/snapback]
Stewart - Was impressed with him again. Good shot stopping and distribution was perfectly fine. One moment of indecision between him and Greacen but otherwise he definately looks an improvement on our last two goalkeepers

McGuffie - Started off well in defence but got lost in the second half when he moved into midfield. The odd good tackle or pass here and there in an otherwise quiet performance.

Walker - Looked vastly off the pace and hardly won a header against Mehmet all game. Too often left McAlister having to pick up two players. Hopefully when he gets back to full fitness he will get back to the form that he was in towards the end of last season.

Weatherson - Very good performance, calm and assured on the ball and defended pretty soundly.

Paartalu - Very quiet performance, didn't get forward particularly well and didn't track back to much effect. A player I think has potential at this club but he still has to find how best he operates in a central midfield trio because today he was rarely in the right place at the right time.

Masterton - A player who looks thoroughly composed on the ball and is able to spread passes to great effect. Set pieces getting closer to how they were for Clyde. Played some excellent cutting passes which mainly Newby lapped up, none more so than in the build up to a very well-worked goal. His penalty was first class too!

McAlister - Was fine without being fantastic. Still struggles to a certain degree with his positioning in both an attacking and defending sense, but I would always have him in the first XI

Russell - Good finish and got into some great positions. Excellent control throughout and I don't think he was caught offside once! His partnership with Newby worked well and he gave the Scum defence a torrid time when he pulled out wide or into the channels. Cracking work-rate.

Wake - Injured, no time to impress

Newby - Pacy, agile and with a good first touch. Teasing cross to set up Russell for the goal and I am a bit happier now that we will have strikers who will trouble first division defences this season.

Finlayson - Phenomenal amount of work and had the better of his opposite number throughout. Didn't make many telling crosses but gives so much to the team that he will be in the starting XI when available.

SUB:

Greacen - Considering he was rushed back from injury he played very well. One scary moment with Stewart, but was otherwise fine. He has his deficiencies, but he knows his limitations and wears his heart on his sleeve.

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mortonjag 2008-07-26 20:27:26 If anybody tells me this guy is an improvement on McGurn-he needs his heid looked. For a big man, his command of the box is NON-EXISTENT, and he flatly refuses to come off the line for anything.

Two good first half saves don't make up for inexplicable incompetence. WTF was he EVER signed? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 20:29:31
GIRUY


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mortonjag 2008-07-26 20:30:46
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 26 2008, 07:09 PM) [snapback]484459[/snapback]
£180k up blink.gif

Looks like our famous negotiating skills are in evidence again.

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mortonjag 2008-07-26 20:35:23
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Jul 26 2008, 08:31 PM) [snapback]484539[/snapback]
I agree that Stewart does not command his box and for a big guy he could do better, I wonder if David Wylie can help him improve on that, then again is Stewarts old man not a well known keeping coach so maybe there is no hope!

However I thought his kicking was decent.

It was average today-half of his kicks went straight to Midden players. Against lowly Dumbarton it was DIRE!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 20:40:17
QUOTE(The Shuffler @ Jul 26 2008, 08:34 PM) [snapback]484543[/snapback]
I dont "hate" the guy but i wouldn't go too overboard about him going on todays performance. He could & should have had a hatrick. Still gets robbed of posession too easily & lacks composure at times.

Take nothing away from him today though, played well scored, deserved his MOM.

Utter unadulterated crap and requires explanation-one cracking shot which skimmed the outside of the left post, and just failed to get onto a very difficult cross from the left. Cracking cool penalty-plenty of hold up and lay off play, not offside once, kept going for 90 minutes in baking heat, and still folk tell lies! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 26 2008, 08:35 PM) [snapback]484545[/snapback]
Indeed, thought Russel played really well. Also delighted he's finally decided to understand the whole concept of the offside rule. smile.gif

He ALWAYS understood the bloody rule-folk are at last learning how to play with the guy! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 20:42:33
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 26 2008, 07:43 PM) [snapback]484498[/snapback]
You are jesting surely ? laugh.gif

Along with Russell and Finlayson, Weatherson was superb !

Finlayson was anything but superb-why do folk always make allowances for this man?

QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 26 2008, 08:39 PM) [snapback]484548[/snapback]
Yet more wonderful insight from the Dr... rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-26 20:44:45 I thought he had a fair game and at least managed to get several inviting balls forward. The 1-2-3 with Newbs and LEAFY was easily the best move of the match. He's still a bit erratic but looks like an asset.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 20:46:59 DI and Greacen were having a good old laugh together before the shoot out. DI looked pretty relaxed and obviously wasn't too fussed about the final result.

As at Forfar, letting Stu take penalties is NOT A F*CKIN' JOKE! dry.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 20:49:08
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 26 2008, 08:45 PM) [snapback]484554[/snapback]
Maybe because he's one of the more consistent performers in the current group?

Aye like Koko the clown-great squad player IF you have a squad! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 20:50:38
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Jul 26 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]484559[/snapback]
Greacen hit the penalty well enough, the keeper made a great save though.

Newbs, LEAFY, and Masty took excellent penalties. Stu's hit and hope did not work! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 20:54:01
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 26 2008, 08:52 PM) [snapback]484562[/snapback]
What I did notice was that I remember their 'keeper saving both penalties to his left, and not getting near any to his right.

I think.

He has a gammy right arm!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 20:57:08
QUOTE(The Shuffler @ Jul 26 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]484547[/snapback]
I thought he did okay today, tbh he's no better or worse than we've had in the past few seasons.



QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 26 2008, 08:41 PM) [snapback]484550[/snapback]
Yeah, didn't see too much wrong with Colin today.

Anybody remember the number of times it was 'his ball' and he stood on his line scratching his arse?

On one occasion big Stu had to make a last minute lunge and give away a corner as the goalie froze speechless! The Midden's free header goal from six yards should have been his from the minute the ball was played over.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 20:59:21
QUOTE(axeman @ Jul 26 2008, 08:57 PM) [snapback]484568[/snapback]
I thought Miranda was very lucky not to get sent off in the 2nd half, retaliation, another wee tussle later then mouthing off at the ref, with just a booking for the 1st one to show for it. Poor refereeing from Brines again.

Also though it was ridiculous that McAusland wasn't told to get off the park in the 2nd half as the blood from his head wound was seeping through his bandage. Beany's shirt had big streaks of blood on the back of it at one point. In this day & age I thought blood injuries like that had to be sorted right away not allowed to splash all over those in the vicinity. God knows what infections you could get from a skunk.

What do you expect from a Pishley Polis? mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:02:51
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jul 26 2008, 08:59 PM) [snapback]484572[/snapback]
Greacen took the first penalty in the Challenge Cup semi defeat to that lot a few years ago and confidently stuck it in the bottom corner, sending the keeper the wrong way. Just wasn't to be this time, that's how things go. No point dwelling on it now, eh.

C'MON THE GINGERS

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mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:05:47
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jul 26 2008, 08:59 PM) [snapback]484570[/snapback]
Not convinced the fans hate him MJ, they are just frustrated by his inability to keep himself onside.

WERE

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mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:07:18 Continuing conundrum-so good and SO BAD! blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:09:51 Alistair was in attendance today. I gave him a wee smile and he smiled back! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:11:31
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jul 26 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]484582[/snapback]
Yeh, read that too ThornTON.

I always keep 'Shoogly Peg' as my bedtime reading. Better than any nightcap.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:16:45
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 26 2008, 09:12 PM) [snapback]484588[/snapback]
Love at first sight? wub.gif rolleyes.gif

Indeed-Mortonjag is irresistable!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:19:51
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 26 2008, 09:11 PM) [snapback]484586[/snapback]
still not sure about newby yes he had an assist, but havent really seen him shoot or win a header yet.

You missed my toes again, so stop criticising. have you been losing some weight BTW? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:22:03
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 26 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]484580[/snapback]
i thought he did fine...



QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 26 2008, 09:11 PM) [snapback]484584[/snapback]
Hmm, you trying to break your own record for most posts in a night? rolleyes.gif
Anyway, Jim done just fine today. Unless you were watching a different game Dr.?

NOPE-just trying to get some bloody conversation going.

FINE

F*cked up, introverted, neurotic, and exhausted?
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:25:57
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jul 26 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]484597[/snapback]
Pleased that I could offer you a platform to introduce the name "shoogly" into a thread, cos that doesn't happen often. laugh.gif


True-I MUST do better!


SHOOGLY-SHOOGLY-SHOOGLY-SHOOGLY-SHOOGLY-SHOOGLY
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:27:38
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jul 26 2008, 09:25 PM) [snapback]484601[/snapback]
Is that you or JIm? laugh.gif

I'm just exhausted!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:30:24
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jul 26 2008, 09:24 PM) [snapback]484600[/snapback]
You don't to emphasise words to me, and anyway it should've read ARE. happy.gif

Seriously (for a moment CT), the abuse Ian has taken from several posters has been well OTT with some claiming they wanted rid of him. IMHO he's a damned good player at First Division level-it's just a shame we have two sham wingers.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:32:10
QUOTE(cmonaton @ Jul 26 2008, 09:23 PM) [snapback]484599[/snapback]
well my take on Colin Stewart is that he is no worse than what we had last season.i like the way he distributes the ball very quickly to set up attacks.he is a hell of a lot better than that wee ginger scroat thats supposed to be coming back.ffs some people on here are never fckin happy.

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!

The wee ginger scrote sure gets on my tits too, but distribution is one of his best assets.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:33:24
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 26 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]484596[/snapback]
laugh.gif its the summer i dont have 5 million layers on

I thought you had a lean and purposeful look about you!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:35:42
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 26 2008, 09:18 PM) [snapback]484593[/snapback]
Good that Stewart came through the game unscathed and looking fairly decent as well . The penalty one of those things , Weatherson's looked weaker but he also looked ok at the back .

No doubt DI would have been happier with that performance than many others so it looks like the preseason has went to plan.

Disagree-I thought his commitment to coming off the line was abysmal. A good 'compromise' keeper, I suppose, and those big banana feet of his-is Julie into stimulation by big toe?
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:38:37
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jul 26 2008, 09:36 PM) [snapback]484613[/snapback]
Honestly don't think I've given him abuse MJ, except for being the only person in football history to have been caught offside more often than Pippo Inzaghi. laugh.gif
I do see the potential as a striker and also think he is a player who benefits immensely when he's on a scoring run, but lets his head go down when he's not.

LEAFY'S HEAD NEVER GOES DOWN

He wasn't players' player of the year for nothing-a fantastic asset to any squad.


C'MON LEAFY
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:39:47
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 26 2008, 09:38 PM) [snapback]484615[/snapback]
thought he had a quite game by his standards

Quite!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:41:42
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jul 26 2008, 09:39 PM) [snapback]484617[/snapback]
get over yourself, your nickname is at best honking, but fair play he was the most likely today and long may it continue, i also thought newbie ran the channels well especially the first half, the second half was as flat as a snooker table but good to see those spl trained players are no great shakes and we were marginally the better team, we know honestly that we will at best be 6th, why try to antagonize(us spelling) . I for one don't expect a great season but all in all it will be progress. mon'e'ton

LEAFY RUSSELL

BEANY RUSSELL


I DO f***ING ASK YOU-are you all bloody Philistines?
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:43:36
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 26 2008, 09:35 PM) [snapback]484612[/snapback]
nice new top he had on....

I thought the strip was MINGIN-blue and white hoops is what we play in at home! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:45:39
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 26 2008, 09:42 PM) [snapback]484626[/snapback]
Sorry Stewart Greacan not Colin Stewart ( who looks kinda scary )

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Oh aye-one of the 'calamity brothers'. I thought Stu did pretty well on his first day back against esspeehell-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA opposition!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:48:18
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jul 26 2008, 09:45 PM) [snapback]484632[/snapback]
And you're back with the oversized words, there's no need for emphasis if it's your opinion, you are entitled to that.

There's no need for undersized ones either.


C'MON LEAFY!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:50:07
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 26 2008, 09:35 PM) [snapback]484609[/snapback]
laugh.gif i was looking for you ph34r.gif laugh.gif

Next time I shall wear a blue and white stethy! I was tempted to say 'hello' but knew you'd be TERRIBLY disappointed! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:51:53
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 26 2008, 09:50 PM) [snapback]484635[/snapback]
It was left of centre so that counts as his left! tongue.gif

...and definitely not Bawheid territory!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:53:27
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jul 26 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]484638[/snapback]
no nickname required, good performances on a regular basis would be more than acceptable, get a grip of your zillion posts and concentrate on what is the more important thing for REAL ton fans securing 1st div status rather than a catchy moniker you old f***ing mug laugh.gif

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First abuse of the evening after ? posts-must be a record! bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:55:00
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 26 2008, 09:52 PM) [snapback]484640[/snapback]
I thought the midden were ok , moved the ball well enough and their right back went to the Welly Academy . The substitutions showed the experience we will need to move onto the next level eventually .

Again, being serious for a moment-they took command in the last twenty minutes because we had no subs left!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:57:32 Reasonable performance-could he find his rightful place in midfield this season?
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:59:36
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jul 26 2008, 09:15 PM) [snapback]484590[/snapback]
MJ, I read that too and it also said they were looking for £300,000k for him.

IMHO the wee man would be better f*cking off to another SPL club pronto-IF HE COULD!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:00:23
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 26 2008, 09:58 PM) [snapback]484645[/snapback]
Mj wasnt he signed originaly as a mid fielder?I think he was but cant be sure.

Attacking midfielder.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:02:11 Can somebody tell what happened please?
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:02:59
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jul 26 2008, 10:02 PM) [snapback]484649[/snapback]
Agree, he's not going to play any sort of serious role at Celtic Park and would further his career by moving on.

FTOF! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:05:42 Must be the most anonymous player for years at Scapa. How come this guy pops up in all sorts of unexpected places-just when most needed.

Undervalued?
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:07:09
QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Jul 26 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]484653[/snapback]
There is no need.

I don't have a clue what happened-was this at half time?
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:07:50
QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Jul 26 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]484654[/snapback]
f*** up time.

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mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:15:04
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jul 26 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]484656[/snapback]
from your perch oh so high
without your opinion we'd die
like gyles brandbreath on heat
mj savoured defeat
i aint a midden supporter he lied

A sad little fart-dirty dingus
asked mortonjag-'What's cunnilingus'?
The poor little fox- laugh.gif
Willie's still in the box
Advice son-if needed just ring us.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:17:18
QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Jul 26 2008, 10:10 PM) [snapback]484663[/snapback]
Your now his bitch.



QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Jul 26 2008, 10:12 PM) [snapback]484669[/snapback]
You better cover your mouth,he'll be tempted to slip his pecker in it.

I think both of you young gentlemen, would LOVE to visit Mortonjag's cellar.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:20:02
QUOTE(tolmie perms r bak @ Jul 26 2008, 10:16 PM) [snapback]484675[/snapback]
i thought stewarts pen was good it was a good save by st midden keeper i would be more worried about peters pen nice run up NOT ! smash the bloody thing mad.gif mad.gif

Is it possible to sort out Stuart from Stewart?
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:21:51
QUOTE(tolmie perms r bak @ Jul 26 2008, 10:19 PM) [snapback]484680[/snapback]
give the guy a break , wee havent had a settled back 3 or 4 he has to get use to players we have changed our defence every game

we are worse than the old firm fans moan moan moan

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
I don't moan except when port-ton's sooking my knob.

Stewart is GASH!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:23:11
QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Jul 26 2008, 10:21 PM) [snapback]484684[/snapback]
He's not an exciting player but he usually does his job and no more but he was very,very quite today. Jenkins will surely snatch his place when he is fit.

Aye right sonny! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:24:05
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 26 2008, 10:20 PM) [snapback]484683[/snapback]
General Nonsense for this pish! tongue.gif

SPAM and chips!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:25:36
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jul 26 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]484689[/snapback]
Russell had his best game in a Morton jersey today. He scored one well constructed goal had one shot from 20 yards that was off target and missed two headers in front of goal. His link up work was very good and he was worth his place. I am pleased for him. How do you manage to turn this into some personal triumph for yourself Mortonjag? Did you hurry home after the game, eager with anticipation, hands sweating, a smile haunting your hand knitted face, just to start this thread? That's what concerns me about you Mortonjag, it's not about Morton or Russell or Dougie Rae or Jim McInally, it's really all about you isn't it.

Knit yourself another wee pal, invent another degree and get over yourself. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Of course it is! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:26:23
QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Jul 26 2008, 10:25 PM) [snapback]484692[/snapback]
kl

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mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:27:42
QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Jul 26 2008, 10:19 PM) [snapback]484679[/snapback]
Only to load the gunpowder and set up the detonation cable.



QUOTE(stu_1874 @ Jul 26 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]484696[/snapback]
we really should look into the Health and Safety implications of this beforehand....

Jumping to conclusions as always! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:28:45
QUOTE(james-m-1874 @ Jul 26 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]484694[/snapback]
Jamie Stevenson made a fine return to Alloa Athletic by scoring one and setting up the other as they upset Dundee in the Challenge Cup.

Stevenson, back at Recreation Park for the third time, this time on loan from Morton, sent in a fine cross that was headed home by Derek Townsley.

The returning hero lobbed home the second after defensive hesitancy.

Pleased for Jame

Not Jamie the keech? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:31:38
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jul 26 2008, 10:28 PM) [snapback]484701[/snapback]
my auld man asked me who is this pervert
argues with 13 year olds he can't take it
but talking to men
he retracts to his den
making the sex registry is his limit

My auld man is deid son!


Time to grow up for you too, or are you just as glaicet as your 'auld man'? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:33:09
QUOTE(gmfc_stinny_gmfc @ Jul 26 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]484707[/snapback]
Jimbo done well today i thought, he made some naw bad runs and a few good long passes aswell. I think he will be a big player for us during the season and i hope he plays the way he did a few seasons ago. tongue.gif

He 'huffed and he puffed'!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:34:35
QUOTE(gmfc_stinny_gmfc @ Jul 26 2008, 10:32 PM) [snapback]484709[/snapback]
Masterton is alot better at putting in a good fast ball from a free kick than some little arse that was taking the freekicks last season. ph34r.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:36:23
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 26 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]484706[/snapback]
Will you stop going on about that, you'll make the poor boy blush.... rolleyes.gif ph34r.gif blush.gif

NEVER!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:38:11
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 26 2008, 10:35 PM) [snapback]484716[/snapback]
was he playing today? unsure.gif he was so quiet i never even noticed

On whom were you concentrating -not Newbs I hope!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:42:24
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 26 2008, 10:10 PM) [snapback]484666[/snapback]
Being abit of an ugly bassa I've had a few (hundreds ) but the best one was in Rico's one night and the maiden of virtue pulled a vibrator from her handbag and said no thanks (feck off !! You can't beat one of these )

Ah the scent of rejection

Mortonjag is unknockbackable! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:44:28
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 26 2008, 10:39 PM) [snapback]484724[/snapback]
erik wub.gif

Oh-Pantaloons-funny nobody's mentioned him yet-thought he looked a bit lost today, TBH!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:49:56
QUOTE(gmfc_stinny_gmfc @ Jul 26 2008, 10:42 PM) [snapback]484728[/snapback]
I think people are to negative when it comes to robinson,ok he made a few mistakes but name a keeper that hasnt?. If i remember right he pulled off alot of good saves last season and i really wouldnt mind him being in the squad for next season. Maybe we should bid for Boruc since hes looking for a big move biggrin.gif.

No chance-he'll NEVER put 'God Bless Shoogly' on his tee-shirt.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:51:20
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 26 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]484734[/snapback]
but has he bought any shares ?

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It was only a smile Newt-give me time FFS!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:54:07
QUOTE(stubaws @ Jul 26 2008, 10:51 PM) [snapback]484739[/snapback]
actually thought he always looked composed on the ball and very rarely gave it away! nothing spectacular but nothing wrong. was less impressed with masterton

Are you EFFIN' jokin'?

Pantaloons is a good player-sure-but he's a one touch player!

Every time he got the ball today he DID give it away-albeit to a more productive team mate!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:57:22
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 26 2008, 10:53 PM) [snapback]484742[/snapback]
I didnt know that , but your still barred! smile.gif

WHY?
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:58:24
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jul 26 2008, 10:56 PM) [snapback]484745[/snapback]
a coffin your auld man he did lease
20 year he kidded he was deef
he dug like a mole
to fathom a hole
so finally he could rest in peace

OH DEAR!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:59:03
QUOTE(stubaws @ Jul 26 2008, 10:58 PM) [snapback]484749[/snapback]
how can people honestly think that stewart is better than robinson (last 5 games of last season)?? stewart is an absolute disaster waiting to happen!:(

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mortonjag 2008-07-26 23:00:42
QUOTE(gmfc_stinny_gmfc @ Jul 26 2008, 10:44 PM) [snapback]484729[/snapback]
aye and he didnt manage to blow you over, ah well hes got the rest of the season to try and blow you away!

Again in serious mode-Jimbo has lots of talent.

He's NEVER a left sided player.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 23:02:22
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jul 26 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]484658[/snapback]
I honestly like him in the role he had today on the left hand side of a back three.

Total compromise and a waste of a creative talent IMHO!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 23:05:19
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ Jul 26 2008, 10:34 PM) [snapback]484714[/snapback]
Peters was the worst one of them all.Taken as tho it was a pre game kick about.

JB.

I don't think I can argue with that!

We could still have won if Greacen hadn't told Irons he's 'penalty king'!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 23:11:58
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 26 2008, 11:01 PM) [snapback]484753[/snapback]
Pretty sure I've knocked you back wink.gif

Well f*** YOU SON-now I don't care if this is the Jessie Boys forum or Tontastic's 'rod of iron' children's chat show-YOU HAVE NO f***ING RIGHT TO REVEAL OUR PRIVATE SECRETS.

I assume you've been on to the 'News of the World' already. mad.gif


'DOCTOR DEATH'

Revenge killing in lovers' tiff.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 23:15:37
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 26 2008, 11:04 PM) [snapback]484756[/snapback]
The pup whether you like it or not will not be back and will end up in a curry.

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mortonjag 2008-07-26 23:17:36
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 26 2008, 11:11 PM) [snapback]484763[/snapback]
taxi driver told me about the t mobile carry on b4 the game. any more details? sounded like a bit of a rammy.

Is that English?
mortonjag 2008-07-26 23:18:42
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 26 2008, 11:12 PM) [snapback]484765[/snapback]
More than pleased for Jamie, hope this marks his return to Alloa fulltime after Xmas...

Turd

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mortonjag 2008-07-26 23:20:33
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 26 2008, 11:06 PM) [snapback]484761[/snapback]
isnt Iain Russell 'penalty king'!

yes but say it softly
mortonjag 2008-07-26 23:24:23
QUOTE(larmton @ Jul 26 2008, 11:20 PM) [snapback]484772[/snapback]
just relax man. it was humourous and its not like we get things like that alot anway. now if we threw it at one of their plays......thatd be funny...

Not if it had scorched your tiny developing baws son.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 23:28:12 I want to know if Sean has really lost a wee puppy.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 23:29:46
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 26 2008, 11:25 PM) [snapback]484781[/snapback]
Whit ?

Are you selling yer Ton shares ?

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WOOD EYE?
mortonjag 2008-07-26 23:30:54
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 26 2008, 11:29 PM) [snapback]484786[/snapback]
I want to know if Sean has really lost his virginity.

Can we have an answer?
mortonjag 2008-07-27 08:10:24 That is all! thumbdown.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 08:14:47
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Jul 26 2008, 11:44 PM) [snapback]484798[/snapback]
Reasonable performance in defence and you ask if he will find his "rightful" place in midfield because of it?

And just to prove you wrong, like MANY others have to do - y'know since you speak the biggest pile of s***e ever - he was signed as a defensive midfielder.

I appreciate you were still in primary school at the time son, but AS ALWAYS Mortonjag is correct.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 08:17:33
QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Jul 27 2008, 01:41 AM) [snapback]484857[/snapback]
maybe people don't hate him.

its just the utter garbage nickname they hate ?

i'm one of them laugh.gif

That is mince.

L E A F Y has been getting pelters for ages and it's been worse during the pre-season friendlies with several saying we'd be better off without him.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 08:26:11
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 27 2008, 12:13 AM) [snapback]484820[/snapback]
The fact that our squad is pretty threadbare was brought into sharp relief today. We could'nt even manage the allowed number of subs from fully fit players. We badly need the promised signings at least until we have a fully fit squad.

My own take on the players coincides to a large extent with Mortonjag's individual threads. I thought

Stewart - did almost nothing wrong but needs to establish decent communication with his defenders and his failure to come off his line a couple of times today could have cost us. The lack of communication might be down to not having played with Greacen, or, for that matter, many of our defenders very often.

McGuffie did ok at right centre back bit was less obvious in midfield when Greacen came on. He does do a lot of work though and pressures the ball a lot when the opposition have it.

Weatherson - had an excellent game for the most part and did not look out of place against SPL opposition. Does nit look fast enough to play up front again.

Walker I thought passed the ball well but is maybe a bit lacking in his man to man defensive qualities. He could maybe do well in midfield.

Greacen - for a man playing his first game since April, I thought he played a blinder. He had a couple of moments of confusion with the goalkeeper but other than that looked solid.

Finlayson - Again was very effective down the right side both in attack and defence . He is one of our hardest workers and this f an does not understand why so many on this board don't like him!

Paartalu - Does a lot of work but maybe does not win as much in the air as he should for a big guy. He is one of the players who will make us hard to beat.

McAllister - had for me, a disappointing game in the attacking sense although his defensive contributions were often crucial. There was little danger of the sort of run he has made in the past to the by line followed by a cut back and he looks a bit oout of sorts compared to the Jimbo of old.

Masterton - when on the ball looked like he was always likely to make a telling (creative?) pass and his dead balls were generally excellent. The move Masterton - Newby - Russell for our goal was brilliant. He is not a ball winner though and his tracking back is less than impressive. He's a player who will create for us but others will have to do the graft on his behalf.

Newby - not a hold up man at all. He's a player who needs the right pass but boy does he make good runs to get them. Our goal came from such a run where he manages to time things perfectly to be just onside. He got into great positions a few times today but just failed to get the final ball placed accurately enough (or maybe Ian Russell did not place himself right!) I cansee this guy making an impact on the first division.

Russell had one of his best games in a Morton short. This guy can hold the ball up and often leave his man for dead. If he was a better finisher he could be a 20 goal a season man. I back him to be our top scorer.

Wake was OK until he went off but too short a time on the park to make any sensible judgement.


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Maybe L E A F Y will get the full kit now he's scored a goal and stayed onside for a full game, making a total mockery of those who have been ridiculing him! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 08:28:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 27 2008, 06:56 AM) [snapback]484940[/snapback]

Big jugs! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 08:36:57
QUOTE(larmton @ Jul 27 2008, 01:33 AM) [snapback]484848[/snapback]
developing...no
tiny...sigh
JOKE

Prove it son-post a picture of your humungous sperm capsules! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 08:40:32
QUOTE(lemmington @ Jul 27 2008, 08:31 AM) [snapback]484953[/snapback]
never won many balls in the air and was caught out of position several times....not an alex walker fan

He admits that heading is one of his worst attributes, and he's also a wee bit slow. Would definitely be worth a shot further forward.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 08:50:48
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Jul 26 2008, 11:20 PM) [snapback]484773[/snapback]
yes but say it softly

Bryan, you may have noticed what happened to your word l e a f y-it magically changed to Iain Russell.


That's why it's now


L E A F Y


Maybe you can find out who's responsible for this, and Mortonjag will take him for a nice walk down a Iain Russell GLADE, where we can discuss power and responsibility! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 09:04:22 THE SPARROW'S NEST

BEHOLD, within the Iain Russell shade,
Those bright blue eggs together laid!
On me the chance-discovered sight
Gleamed like a vision of delight.
I started--seeming to espy
The home and sheltered bed,
The Sparrow's dwelling, which, hard by
My Father's house, in wet and dry
My sister Emmeline and I
Together visited.

She looked at it and seemed to fear it;
Dreading, tho' wishing, to be near it:
Such heart was in her, being then
A little Prattler among men.
The Blessing of my later years
Was with me when a boy:
She gave me eyes, she gave me ears;
And humble cares, and delicate fears;
A heart, the fountain of sweet tears;
And love, and thought, and joy.
1801.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 09:07:24
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 27 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]484962[/snapback]
What did she ever do to you?

RIP Nana Moon sad.gif
Oh, you're talking about the forum poster? Meh, can't say I know the guy. tongue.gif

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Nana Moon knows what I'm talking about! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 09:19:07 L E A F Y



LEAF Y
E
A
F
Y





mortonjag 2008-07-27 09:21:35
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 27 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]484970[/snapback]
Fantastic laugh.gif laugh.gif

I believe that you, like the erudite Mr/Dr Bam, reside in the Iain Russell Mearns! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 09:29:23 Eating plenty of green Iain Russell vegetables such as kale, spinach and collard greens could decrease skin cancer risk says a study.

These vegetables are known to contain a variety of vitamins and minerals and other bioactive substances that include lutein, vitamins C and E, flavonoids, folic acid, and fiber, according to the health portal HealthSentinel.

Researchers studied over 1,000 adults living in Australia over an 11-year period and provided them full-body skin examinations as well as detailed dietary food frequency questionnaire, according to the study published in International Journal of Cancer.

After adjusting for a variety of factors the researchers found that increasing intakes of green Iain Russell vegetables were associated with a 41 percent decrease risk of skin cancer - which is known medically as Squamous cell carcinoma (SCC).

Dark green Iain Russell vegetables are rich in folic acid, which plays a key role in DNA synthesis and repair, the researchers said.

The researchers also examined diet if any participant previously had skin cancer. They found an even more substantial relationship.

People who previously had skin cancer had a 55 percent decrease in SCC with increasing intakes of green Iain Russell vegetables. Conversely, dairy showed a significant 153 percent increased SCC risk.

'Increased intake of unmodified dairy products increased SCC risk by more than 2-fold,' the researchers observed.

'Our findings show that higher intakes of green Iain Russell vegetables may help prevent SCC tumours among people who have prior skin cancers,' the researchers claimed.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 09:38:24
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 27 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]484976[/snapback]
There once was a boy named Jack who was born with just one eye, so the doc's put a wooden one in the socket where his eye would be.

This was fine for Jack, for he knew no better, but the kids in school would tease him to no end. In fact, they all referred to him as "Wood Eye". Naturally, he didn't appreciate it, and grew to hate the name.

When the Senior Prom arrived, Jack went alone. When the dancing began, some friends came over and encouraged him to ask Sally to dance, as she had come alone as well.

"SALLY?! She's got a NOSE the size of KANSAS, for god's sake!", replied Jack.

"Hey Wood Eye, you've got a wooden EYE! Who the heck are you to judge Sally Bignose?!"

After a while, he noticed Sally across the room. Her nose wasn't THAT big, and frankly, she did look just as bored as he was. "what have I got to lose?" Jack asked himself. He decided to go for it.

"Sally, would you like to dance with me?"

"WOULD I?!" Exclaimed Sally.

Jack snapped back "-BIG NOSE!!!"

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Hey NEWT (thank f*ck that didn't change to Brian Wake dry.gif )-I know you watch your skins very carefully out in sunny Oz.

Have you heard of the benefits of Iain Russell green vegetables in preventing skin cancer?
mortonjag 2008-07-27 09:40:40
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 27 2008, 09:23 AM) [snapback]484973[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

Would it be better if you called him Col or Phil ?

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Col is SPURTLE and Phil is OTTER

L EAFY is LEAF Y
mortonjag 2008-07-27 09:46:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 27 2008, 09:35 AM) [snapback]484978[/snapback]
so what is wrong with Col or Phil ?
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They are Spurtle and Otter


LEAF Y is L EAFY
mortonjag 2008-07-27 09:50:21
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jul 27 2008, 09:38 AM) [snapback]484980[/snapback]
I back Scotsguy's post. Setting off a flare in the confined space of the cowshed - busy with punters of all ages- isn't a harmless piece of fun as most of you would have it. I was fairly close to the flare and no, I wasn't particularly alarmed/bothered by it but wasn't particularly happy either.

All you experts with 20/20 hindsight are saying 'nobody got killed' ...............so feck. So ,it's cool to bring flares into the shed then ?
Let's have two (or more ) f*nn**s set them off on the next busy game and that'll be an even better laugh blink.gif

If you can't see a potential problem with that, I feel sorry for you.


Oh grow up you!

It was just a wee boy having harmless fun. Who cares if some decrepit old c*nt got blinded. Decrepit old c*nts shouldn't attend football matches or interfere with wee boys.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 10:11:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 27 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]484988[/snapback]
OK

Colourphyl ?

or

Colourful ?

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mellow.gif I used to get Kale soup on the farm. I loved the taste and Iain Russell green colour.

QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Jul 27 2008, 10:02 AM) [snapback]484995[/snapback]
like the player, hate the nickname.
Russell has een our liveliest forward since he arrived and does more work than Wake.
"Jon Newby"we were told was 6'-0" and fast, neither allegation appears to be true. however the lad works hard.

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Newbs is OK IMO-he links very well, as does BRUSSELL.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 10:15:35
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 27 2008, 10:01 AM) [snapback]484994[/snapback]
thought his deliveries were okay today although we still don't look like scoring.The thing that annoyed me washe tried the hollywood pass every single time, when if he'd tried it half the time and played the simple pass half the time then it would have been fine.

I quite liked what I saw-we've now got energetic attackers who can move into space quickly while remaining onside. Masterton is their best hope of an occasional good ball (as in yesterday's fine goal by BRUSSELL
mortonjag 2008-07-27 10:19:31
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 27 2008, 09:59 AM) [snapback]484993[/snapback]
I didn't think it was that bad a penalty, also noticed how our ex captain the central defender with no ability with the ball at his feet put his name forward to take the first penalty while our new captain who's the striker and supposed one of the best players at the club didn't even take one of the first five i think? or maybe he took the 5th. if he took the fifth then like most of my posts this is irrelevant, although still well done stewarty for having the cuts to step forward.

If the midden goalie had gone the wrong way it would have been a 'fantastic' penalty.

He didn't, therefore it was absolute keech-belted hard and high and hopefully.

Newbs and BRUSSELL showed how to do it!
mortonjag 2008-07-27 10:23:25
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jul 27 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]484992[/snapback]
Time for your Ritalin MJ , go on, you know it's for the best.

That's IT-TOO MUCH-already in the last twenty four hours some effin cowboy has interfered with my Iain Russell and now you're casting aspirations on my sanctity.


I shall report you to the BIG MOD-you will be reduced to mince-cornbeef.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 10:25:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 27 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]484990[/snapback]
but not just skin cancer ... colorectal cancer as well

good stuff

the green vegetables, that is.
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Aye but they have to be Iain Russell!
mortonjag 2008-07-27 10:28:45
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 27 2008, 09:48 AM) [snapback]484986[/snapback]
OK - ColandPhyl.

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I'm been reliably informed that BRUSSELL's proper nickname is Beany.

That, IMHO is an utterly ridiculous nickname which could only be approved by mindless morons.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 10:34:22
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jul 27 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]484961[/snapback]
Irons was tactically outclassed by McPherson yesterday. Jim was left completely exposed to deal with 2 players. Given the circumstances he did well. McGuffie when he moved into midfield offered little to no assistance in covering to allow Jim to get forward.

When Jim gets forward he's next to useless-not quite as next to useless as the other 'winger' mind you.

I'd get shot of them both tomorrow if we could get two half decent wingers to replace them.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 10:38:27
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Jul 27 2008, 10:32 AM) [snapback]485007[/snapback]
The guy linked well today, played well, was Duff against Ayr, missed the game against Hartlepool, I was in Hartlepool, Their local paper said they gave the Ton a roasting. wish i had brought a copy up the road.

nb: I too lived on a farm in my youth, never had Kale soup !!

Maybe foobs the elder is younger than MJ!

High Auchinleck farm in the Port. East Green farm outside Kilmacolm. They made kale soup regularly-beautiful Iain Russell green it was!


mortonjag 2008-07-27 10:42:04 I have been informed that there has been a change in plan and the seller has become a rent boy.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 10:44:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 27 2008, 09:38 AM) [snapback]484983[/snapback]
Is Iain Russell a ginger ???

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Possibly though he's a blondie at the moment!
mortonjag 2008-07-27 10:47:21
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 26 2008, 11:48 PM) [snapback]484802[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

It's actually the Sunday Post that's interested in the story. They're trying to 'sex' things up with the stories they publish tongue.gif wink.gif

Publish and be damned-Fing is watching carefully. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 10:50:43
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 27 2008, 01:21 AM) [snapback]484840[/snapback]
You have had 2 chances Im afraid you dont get a third happy.gif laugh.gif

It no longer matters-I KNEW it was grossly overpriced, and now it's up for rent, boy! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 10:56:17
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 27 2008, 10:48 AM) [snapback]485018[/snapback]
'How to Make Friends and Influence People' by MortonJag.

A bestseller if ever I saw one.... dry.gif



Beany is an outrageous name for BRUSSELL!

It's as simple as that.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 10:58:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 27 2008, 10:44 AM) [snapback]485015[/snapback]
Kale is also an excellent source of vitamin C, B1, B2, B6 and E.

It contains copper and iron.

The combination of vitamins, minerals and phyto-nutrients makes kale a health superstar.

....and as your picture shows, it's extremely Iain Russell.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 11:09:50
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 27 2008, 11:03 AM) [snapback]485026[/snapback]
what the f*** you on about now you sick old freak?

This piece of confusing verbal mince---


taxi driver told me about the t mobile carry on b4 the game. any more details? sounded like a bit of a rammy.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 11:14:25
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Jul 27 2008, 10:59 AM) [snapback]485024[/snapback]
What midfield???????????????
some people have criticised Kev and Jim, they would be better reserving their criticism for McGuffie and Paartalu

they came to the ball and never danced

Foobs mad.gif

You can't miss Kev and Jimbo because they run about all day like headless chickens and produce next to nothing. Why people keep making excuse after excuse for those guys defies logic. Neither McGuffie nor Pantaloons was very proactive yesterday, but they still did a good job in keeping the Midden at bay.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 11:19:33
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Jul 27 2008, 11:14 AM) [snapback]485030[/snapback]
Tasted it when chopping it for the cows as a lad, didn't like the taste.
The cows can have it all.
May be younger than you MJ but not by much, tho I am better looking
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You are not MUCH better looking and I'm 107 which just goes to show the benefits of Iain Russell kale soup.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 11:23:33
QUOTE(rafa the spic @ Jul 27 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]485029[/snapback]
Even if we were to go down this year, theres a good chance you might be back at your level in the 2nd div by that time,

I agree with most poster on here the game was dull, As a Saints fan i think Macphersons tactics are boring, But you've telling us ever since we've been in the SPL were going down, but were still there, and as Mr Rae will tell you its the only place to play due the money thats involved now

Indeed. Queens made a damned good effort last season and were excellent in the SCF!
mortonjag 2008-07-27 11:27:04
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Jul 27 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]485027[/snapback]
Wel said Chrisbolli, so its not just me that thinks Mcguffie and Paartalu are duff.

You expressed my thoughts welll

Neither is 'DUFF'.

Jimbo is regularly disappointing and Kev is regularly duff.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 11:48:06
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 27 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]485016[/snapback]
You reap what you sow, sonny! wink.gif laugh.gif

Iain Russell green vegetables are well worth sowing Pop!
mortonjag 2008-07-27 11:56:45 cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Jul 27 2008, 11:51 AM) [snapback]485043[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yeah get Gardyne back mad.gif Change the record MJ, no sorry, change the cylinder sleep.gif

Jim was disappointing yesterday yes (thats not a regular occurance), Kev was excellent AGAIN dry.gif[/quote]
I'm talking about the ability of those two young gentlemen to use the wings CB, and they are both utter keech in that respect.


L EAFY is well worth his place!
mortonjag 2008-07-27 12:00:57
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jul 27 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]485045[/snapback]
I think he's trying to break his record for most amount of p1sh spouted!

Jim was clearly the best player on the park, from both sides.

That's the sort of comment that endears you to others Piehole!

Has he been reaming your arse for you?
mortonjag 2008-07-27 12:03:47
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 27 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]485050[/snapback]
it's clear enough this morning that giving mortonjag his own private section hasn't worked. do you have a plan b or are you just going to give up?

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How much are you charging p.c.m. now that you're an official rent boy?
mortonjag 2008-07-27 13:21:53
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jul 27 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]485067[/snapback]
Aye, and starting yet another thread dedicated to him will help. rolleyes.gif

You are a wise little man at times-manky and I exchanged some jousts yesterday-you know the effect jousting with the Jag can have on one! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 13:33:09
QUOTE(C B @ Jul 27 2008, 12:14 PM) [snapback]485070[/snapback]
I thought he was excellent yesterday, obviously nothing there for MJ to moan about?

Think his runs off the Skunks back line were excellent, epitomised by the goal and the near winner with minutes to go. He will cause first division defenses real problems.

Happy with this signing Mr Irons ! wub.gif

I thought Newbs had a good game and I've referred to that in other posts.

Where's the 'moaning' you're talking about? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 13:35:23
QUOTE(big blue eyes @ Jul 27 2008, 01:31 PM) [snapback]485104[/snapback]
I thought Jon was brilliant and he was the one who made the goal.

Mortonjag's probably raging that his friend only had to tap it in. He's clearly a very sick man-and by the way I DO know a wee bit about psychology.

One thing's for sure-he hasn't a clue about professional standards.

Zoe sad.gif

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You're a nineteen year old child at some two bit Uni-don't even THINK about professional standards till you've grown a pair of baws. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 13:43:42
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 27 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]484965[/snapback]
Care to back that up with evidence old boy? rolleyes.gif

The following three quotes are just a sample. Trawl all the pre-season friendlies stuff and you'll get AMPLE evidence. Tonsilitis was particularly unimpressed!

QUOTE(bob_the_builder @ Jul 27 2008, 11:45 AM) [snapback]485040[/snapback]
I'll openly admit that i said all last season Russell just wasnt good enough for the first division, but fair play to the guy had a great game yesterday and thoroughly deserved his man of the match award. and i think he was only off side once or twice, most of his runs were well timed. However he needs to keep that up the whole season, if he can perform like that most of the time then i'll be convinced.

I KNOW he was NOT ruled offside during the whole game Bob!

QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Jul 27 2008, 12:59 PM) [snapback]485096[/snapback]
he gets pelters for the right reasons
when he 1st arrived did you think he knew what the offside rules was ?

i wanted him signed after hearing his speach at the player of the year awards when weatherson, mcgowan russell & think it aitken were all up for the award biggrin.gif

in his speach he praised the 2 morton players not bothering to mention the other player.

the guys work rate is great just hope he could improve on his finishing.

and works well with wake.

No son-I have it on good authority that L E A F Y just swotted it up on Friday night. Amazing what leafing through books can do for ones football!

QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 27 2008, 01:08 PM) [snapback]485098[/snapback]
His finishing seems to have improved with each game during the pre-season and he shows tremendous drive and will to win. He'll be a success at this club yet.

My dad f'cking hates him to! laugh.gif

Still?

QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Jul 27 2008, 01:35 PM) [snapback]485107[/snapback]
good point

and kev's final ball yesterday was alot better than his usual standards

and jim just couldn't get into the game yesterday and at every attacking opportunity tried to cut inside

Kevin is a waste of space as a right winger.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 13:49:26
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jul 27 2008, 12:04 PM) [snapback]485060[/snapback]
jim was by far the best player on the park by miles

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Piehole has a FRIEND!

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mortonjag 2008-07-27 13:51:51
QUOTE(C B @ Jul 27 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]485066[/snapback]
Iain Russell is just not gonna cut it anymore, especially now Irons has him working to stay on his feet.

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mortonjag 2008-07-27 13:56:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 27 2008, 10:41 AM) [snapback]485011[/snapback]

Broccoli with Lemon Butter: Fresh Broccoli, blanched crisp and tossed with our House Seasoned Lemon Butter.


That's as close as the menu get's to being L E A F Y!
mortonjag 2008-07-27 13:59:31
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Jul 27 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]485020[/snapback]
Pretty aduquate report ma man.
However it is up to stewart to command his defence, he is the boss of the area and as such should boss them all captain included.
Masterson needs to do more ball winning, positions himself well.
McGuffie and Paartalu couldn't tackle a fish supper between em, Paartalu won the odd ball by sticking out a foot but i don't remember either on winning a tackle, they need some of the guts and determination showed by Findlayson.

could go on , but enough !!!

Foobs

laugh.gif Has DI been entrailing some stalwart with a view to a signature?
mortonjag 2008-07-27 14:04:21
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jul 27 2008, 11:56 AM) [snapback]485048[/snapback]
I think McGuffie will be best utilised as a centre back.

I don't know what he was doing at Gretna but really can't see him doing a job in midfield for us. Obviously we still have Jenkins to come back which should bolster what will be a comeptitive midfield.

But with everyone fit I don't imagine McGuffie starting without a major improvement.
As for Moronjag... wonder if he knows he can just put one thread together with a list of all the players followed by a comment?
Attention seeking fckwit!

People have been banned for less Piehole-may I now call you a little POUFFLET?

QUOTE(C B @ Jul 27 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]485055[/snapback]
BEANY was excellent yesterday and it shows Irons is capable of turning mediocre strikers (Wake inc) into real threats, however, considering Irons started 3-4-3 yesterday I think you'll find Kev and Jim were not used as wingers !!!!!! Kev's workrate and general ankle biting of opponents (not wingplay) is the reason I would have him in my top 2 or 3 picks EVERY week ! dry.gif



No effin sh1t Sherlock!

That's my WHOLE point-we haven't GOT effin wingers and we NEED at least one! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 14:12:18
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Jul 27 2008, 03:14 AM) [snapback]484900[/snapback]
Does "bury" mean you're not going to mention him?

I kinda have a life outside this board so apologies for not being au fait with all these earth shattering developments smile.gif

I'm extremely jealous! laugh.gif

It seems that some smart arse with the power has already attempted to scupper what seemed like a genuine offer by Red Sox to raise cash for the Ardgowan Hospice.

I had agreed to not mention DDFR or Iain Russell for three months from August 1st.

I typed S H O O G L Y and L E A F Y above, (without the spaces) and Lo and behold they magically change!

Some folk are TERRIBLY smart, don't you think! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 14:16:03
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 27 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]485056[/snapback]
i think you're just confused in general pal.

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QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 27 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]485065[/snapback]
which is easily understandable to anyone who's spent more than 10 minutes in the west of Scotland. Yourself included.

I understood it well!

I was simply attempting to help forza as he's an aspiring poet!
mortonjag 2008-07-27 14:19:23
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 27 2008, 12:59 PM) [snapback]485097[/snapback]
He's a midfielder but we already have loads of defensive players in there.

He's much more useful while we have our current defence crisis.

He's an attacking midfielder who's been used as a general dogsbody.

With the current questioning of Pantaloons and Huffy in the productivity department, he might get a wee shot one day!
mortonjag 2008-07-27 14:22:18
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jul 27 2008, 01:38 PM) [snapback]485109[/snapback]
Aye, that was the intention but they were very late in coming out, and I have absolutely no view of the 'tunnel' to see what's going on! Think I'll ask for a cctv camera in the changing room foyer linked to a monitor in my dunny, or maybe not...
Also appologies to those in the cowshed, someone fecked up the level settings over the close season so I don't think you could hear me announcing teams before the game, possibly a good thing tho... Will try to spend some time prior to the next match and fiddle with the knobs!
I really don't want to bring back Live is Life, even though the Chairman is pushing for it, but if the general consensus is that it should be resurrected then... So get voting for something else you lot smile.gif

Right, I'm aff to Spain for a week, where's ma thong speedos... blink.gif cool.gif

Just be sure the two 'esses' are still in place!
mortonjag 2008-07-27 14:28:18
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jul 27 2008, 12:49 PM) [snapback]485090[/snapback]
I saw the thread title and thought of these:
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mortonjag 2008-07-27 14:31:14
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 27 2008, 02:20 PM) [snapback]485132[/snapback]
laugh.gif i did it as a joke for just a day rolleyes.gif i have removed them as i dont want to ruin the challenge biggrin.gif

You are sometimes a very naughty boy!

I've spent the whole morning muttering 'effin Tontastic' and the poor chap was innocent! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 14:37:27
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jul 27 2008, 12:44 PM) [snapback]485088[/snapback]
I think you have to give the guys who volunteered a bit of credit.

Ok - it wasn't a massive important cup tie but big Greacan volunteered to take a kick against St Mirren in the Challenege Cup semi a few years ago when others (Andy McLaren) didn't take a kick.

As for Peter... penalties should be practiced more often. They cost us probably 6 or 7 points at least last season so we should def have 2 or 3 players practicing then each week as keepers are a lot better at saving them and guessing a direction these days.

I'd have thought that would have been organised by yourself at the 'Battery and Quarriers' Piehole!


BTW-what size of boots does Colin Stewart wear?

I know they're pinkish red and VERY big like your mouth.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 15:01:48
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jul 27 2008, 02:53 PM) [snapback]485142[/snapback]
You can't really have a go at a player for missing a penalty. They've stepped up when needed and gave it a blast and you aint gonna score them all. Likewise for NOT taking a penalty. If you're stepping up unsure about then you will miss. If he doesn't feel confident hitting pens why would he want to hit them when there (should) be a good few other players who can hit them.




Some are better than others mind you-look at Chris Aitken for example!
mortonjag 2008-07-27 15:07:22 It's always sad when folk die-especially after a long illness.

Bob Crampsey's professionalism was an example for all aspiring sports journalists.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 15:17:20
mortonjag 2008-07-27 15:23:48
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 27 2008, 03:11 PM) [snapback]485152[/snapback]
CODE
A thread's not about me yet - better get to work!

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Just oot yer pit I see Smeggy!
mortonjag 2008-07-27 15:26:44
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 27 2008, 03:25 PM) [snapback]485164[/snapback]
I've been up for an hour cool.gif

Your SO must be getting worn out.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 15:30:39
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 27 2008, 03:24 PM) [snapback]485162[/snapback]
"Who's the slapper in the ridiculously unfashionable dress with saggy boobs?"

Apparently this is a view of somebody in the Directors' Box.

mortonjag 2008-07-27 15:35:03
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 27 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]485168[/snapback]
Masterton should take the penalties. His was an absolute belter !

It was powerful and well directed. I noticed that LEAFY and Newbs both hit very similar penalties, and wondered if the goalie is a known 'sucker' to his right.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 15:43:20
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 27 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]485175[/snapback]
Har har rolleyes.gif

No haar here-it's a gloriously sunny Sunday afternoon-the sort of day when everybody seems nicer and you want to whistle choons and shake everybody's hand!
mortonjag 2008-07-27 15:52:01
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 27 2008, 03:48 PM) [snapback]485180[/snapback]
I love mortonjag.

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What do you think of poncey wee top floor tenement flats selling in pouffe Hyndland for nearly a quarter of a million, young man.

Has Morrissey written a suitable thingy about such bizarre happenings? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 16:19:59
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 27 2008, 04:01 PM) [snapback]485185[/snapback]
'Money don't buy you happiness'. By the most miserable, overated c*** in music history.

I believe I can say in all honesty that I've never heard one of his ditties, though I LOVE the original Seekers.


I particularly liked 'I'll never find another ewe'.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 16:25:09
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 27 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]485189[/snapback]
I think that's more to do with your mania.

I've just hit another low


C*NT



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mortonjag 2008-07-27 16:29:18
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 27 2008, 04:10 PM) [snapback]485191[/snapback]
That's jazza's maw! laugh.gif (Jazza posts here)

She looked better in this one!
mortonjag 2008-07-27 19:29:04
QUOTE(Malt @ Jul 27 2008, 04:57 PM) [snapback]485204[/snapback]
The abuse McGuffie gets is absolutely out of order and over the top. Yesterday before a ball was kicked there was people on his back. Let the guy get on with his game. If he has a poor game then let Davie and Derek deal with him.

I agree.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 19:32:38
QUOTE(C B @ Jul 27 2008, 05:02 PM) [snapback]485211[/snapback]
In the first post of all your other player topics, with the exception of the Alex Walker thread.

Don't be silly-I know 'moaning' when I hear it. If you're suggesting that I don't think all is perfection in the squad-that is correct. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 19:34:19
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jul 27 2008, 05:07 PM) [snapback]485215[/snapback]
I can't be bothered reading all the post on this theme but the simple fact that althought hard working and extremely industrious Jim flatters to deceive. The "killer" cross never quite gets delivered because (like all full-backs know he has to cut back to get the ball on his rigfht foot which immediately causes that split second delay in any effective delivery of a cross.

In other words he's redundant unless DI can make him effective as a right wing player.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 19:37:40
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jul 27 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]485245[/snapback]
hes a good lad
theres some people he really hates though
he does spout pish sometimes, we all do
its the people who get angry who justify him always talking, its great when he gets a rise
some people are as sad as they say he is by constantly moaning

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mortonjag 2008-07-27 19:43:24
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jul 27 2008, 06:17 PM) [snapback]485232[/snapback]
going by the size of some of them I assumed they were the Sinclair St Elfs.

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QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 27 2008, 06:55 PM) [snapback]485242[/snapback]
The Sinclair Street Elite is not directly linked to Morton, it's the name the lads from the QB and surrounding areas have given themselves.

'And why do you call yourselves 'elite'?

'Cos it's an effin ace name mister'! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 19:45:49
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 27 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]485237[/snapback]
blink.gif East Stirling didn't play yesterday! As for Jamie, he's found his level.

Smiffy, would you object if I changed your nickname to ANUS?

QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jul 27 2008, 06:46 PM) [snapback]485240[/snapback]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/s...ups/7524239.stm

Jamie's level being getting man of the match against one of the best teams in the division we're in?

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mortonjag 2008-07-27 19:50:04 Pink pouffe?
mortonjag 2008-07-27 20:00:45
QUOTE(CraigoTON @ Jul 27 2008, 07:58 PM) [snapback]485280[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-07-27 20:03:24
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jul 27 2008, 07:58 PM) [snapback]485279[/snapback]
do you still stand by that statement Largston???? i always pictured you as a bald overweight man, but after bumping into you last night i take it all back! lol

Largston's a WOMAN? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 20:07:28
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 27 2008, 07:59 PM) [snapback]485281[/snapback]
My personal thoughts are, you must be really gullable or completely thick to believe that there is one supreme God out there. Go spend an afternoon watching the Discovery Channel or something

Was there a Jesus Christ, yes there was but just a typical Cult leader, good with words, but never the son of someone that isn't true in the first place.

Now I know that there are a few bible bashers amoungst us, but its time the world woke up to the fact that religion is a pile of pish no matter what god to beleive in.

What's your thoughts
Mon the Monkeys rolleyes.gif

He exists!
mortonjag 2008-07-27 20:10:09
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QUOTE(CraigoTON @ Jul 27 2008, 08:02 PM) [snapback]485285[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-07-27 20:18:09
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jul 27 2008, 08:11 PM) [snapback]485295[/snapback]
no sorry he is a man but he aint overweight and bald! lol

Hirsute and emaciated?

QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 27 2008, 08:14 PM) [snapback]485296[/snapback]
I think someone has a wee thing for LargsTON! laugh.gif

Has she seen his 'wee thing'?
mortonjag 2008-07-27 21:03:10
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 27 2008, 08:18 PM) [snapback]485301[/snapback]
His name is Cliff Richard

Be thoroughly ashamed Spurtle-the poor chap's just had massive plastic surgery including a buglectomy, and still has the baws to go to a football match. That's a REAL fan in my book.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 21:05:18
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 27 2008, 08:59 PM) [snapback]485330[/snapback]
I've been in twice already today.

True my angel, but that was not the inner sanctum! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-28 06:50:06
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 27 2008, 08:56 PM) [snapback]485324[/snapback]
Now where did you live when the fruit of your loins was of school age? laugh.gif

The truth is that Glasgow's system is p1sh. I can go into boring pedagogic details if you want.


Labour cooncil Dr Bam-say no more!
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 27 2008, 09:32 PM) [snapback]485367[/snapback]
Naw, spare me that please. biggrin.gif

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Apparently the 'swish' property's off the market as nobody from the Port could match Che Efrichc*nts' knock down price! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-28 06:57:35
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 27 2008, 09:11 PM) [snapback]485343[/snapback]
As long as a p***k like you doesn't come near me. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I'll have you before you know!

QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 27 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]485348[/snapback]
You misunderstand me. Jamie's ability has never been in doubt, but he can't handle the 'big stage' and is much happier kicking around the Second Division where he can be a 'star' without any real pressure on him. rolleyes.gif

Really! A good manager'll get that sorted I'd imagine. rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 27 2008, 09:15 PM) [snapback]485352[/snapback]
We should yield to your in-depth psychological profiling of our entire squad.

Anus is no psychologist.
mortonjag 2008-07-28 07:05:02
QUOTE(lofty @ Jul 27 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]485338[/snapback]
i have not been on here for a while now, where did this mortonjag come from, is he a mod ? he does seem to like posting, mainly drivel, in fact all drivel lol. sounds like a wee gobs***e ned.

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mortonjag 2008-07-28 07:09:17
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jul 27 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]485405[/snapback]
In the face of all this negative comment , could anybody say what exactly did Stewart do wrong yesterday?
The goal lost was certainly not his fault and he had one wonderful save from the lad who tried to curl it round him at pace! I'll see what time has to say!

The goal came from a free header from pretty close in as Stewart YET AGAIN refused to come off his line.

You need to focus on a goalie during the build up to potential strikes if you're to assess him properly! Big Stewart is feart to abandon his goal line-it's as plain as a Milanda Loaf.
mortonjag 2008-07-28 07:16:14
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 27 2008, 11:35 PM) [snapback]485432[/snapback]
he's no hold up man but a forward who needs a through ball played to him. His runs across the defence though are immense and bhe makes himself obvious for the pass. He will compliment Wake up front and I think will make a significant impact on this league if he stays fit.

I am getting more and more happy with our front options as Russell looks a 20 goals man in waiting also.

I would quite like us to stick with the 3-4-3 we started with yesterday

Things are getting rosier leafier, then! thumbup2.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-28 07:19:56
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 28 2008, 01:08 AM) [snapback]485446[/snapback]
Lets look objectively it wasn't a disaster and from my point of view I thought we'd have got beaten easily . In open play I thought St Midden looked pretty decent , our extra man in midfield was negated a few times due to them passing the ball well and bringing their fullbacks into play .
It was a good test and I thought we stood up pretty well .

The penalties are always a lottery wouldn't crucify Peter or Stuart as their performances over the ninety minutes made up for the penalty miss .

I take what Toby said about Peters confidence and perhaps thats why hes been moved back . There was enough players yesterday who took their penalty well so in a normal league situation I wouldn't be worried .

Mortonjag predicted a 1-0 victory with LEAFY scoring.

I just thought I'd like to say that! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-28 07:31:13
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 28 2008, 05:39 AM) [snapback]485465[/snapback]
Well that footage justified a 4:33 video

The monkey kept saying-'Where's the train'

Trainspotting Monkey! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-28 07:57:02 On the great day of judgement, the Almighty saith unto Sean-

'Sean, ye hath sinned and come short of the glory of God', and Sean did quiver with abundant quivering, and saith-

'Almighty one -I never kent any better'

...and God, with one stroke of his Almighty hand, banished Sean to hell fire with the resounding words-

'Well ye ken noo son'. thumbdown.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-28 08:02:21 HA-when I read the title I thought Manky had finally flipped under the pressure! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-28 08:05:10
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 27 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]485359[/snapback]
I didn't know you could catch the clap from your hand. rolleyes.gif

It is remotely possible-hence the POUFFE caveat

Always wash your hands after using the toilet.
mortonjag 2008-07-28 08:24:36 Happy birthday! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-28 08:27:00
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 28 2008, 07:48 AM) [snapback]485477[/snapback]
did you travel on the same train as the filth?

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No it was just when he was watching that BOOOOOORING video! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-28 08:39:34
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 28 2008, 08:34 AM) [snapback]485485[/snapback]
Were is hell, and does it come with aircon?

Do not mock!

As DI said to LEAFY

PREPARE TO MEET THY MARKER
mortonjag 2008-07-28 08:50:16
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 28 2008, 08:42 AM) [snapback]485491[/snapback]
what einstein said:

“My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment.â€

This subject is FAR too deep for you Alistair.

Stick to your daft wee one liners and accept that for practical purposes Mortonjag is your God.
mortonjag 2008-07-28 08:59:04
QUOTE(cmonaton @ Jul 28 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]485496[/snapback]
 

your talking pish as usual.



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My talking pish eh!!!


Is my tadger some kind of ventriloquist?


What I stated is factual son! Many others have made similar comments about 'big banana feet'.
mortonjag 2008-07-28 09:02:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 28 2008, 08:49 AM) [snapback]485493[/snapback]
Gidday The Naitch,

Sorry, Inverclyde slang, if that is what it is, has got the better of me.

Would I wot ?

Your link to the story depicted a young lady with ample bosoms (big jugs)! laugh.gif



Alistair was there on Saturday looking dapper, mean, and purposeful. In contrast Shoogly is looking distinctly worn those days. mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-28 09:06:24
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 28 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]485498[/snapback]
that was rather a daft wee one liner was it not rolleyes.gif

No it was not, Alistair-I was being serious. I get pissed off with unthinking clots who defer to the writings of 'important' folk.

Einstein was only a bloody genius like myself-stick with the Jag!
mortonjag 2008-07-28 10:20:31
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 28 2008, 09:41 AM) [snapback]485511[/snapback]
i didn't think you'd be able to look up mr rae's kilt from your usual vantage point rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-28 10:23:10
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Jul 28 2008, 09:47 AM) [snapback]485512[/snapback]
Sorry MJ do you fancy Mc Duffie, you don't like any criticism of him.
Sorry not PC, but thats me!!
Didn't see his first game were he scored, seen plenty since and the game seems to pass him bye for the most part.
He needs to gain a bit of desire to take part. Jenkins appears to be a much better player but has missed more games than he has played in (Injury Prone) does the stats bear this out
Not a happy bunny

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Huffy has a beautiful bottom-I admit it-but that's not the point. he 'ghosts'-popping up in all sorts of unexpected places-a damned sight more useful than many realise-and AYE he hasn't hit his best form yet at Scapa.
mortonjag 2008-07-28 10:25:36
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 28 2008, 10:06 AM) [snapback]485514[/snapback]
Spot on.

Mibbes aye, mibbes no!

I take it DI just lets the boys sort it out themselves! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-28 10:29:33
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 28 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]485513[/snapback]
Not quite that simple, East Ren is labour too.

There is a subtle difference!
mortonjag 2008-07-28 10:34:01
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 28 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]485504[/snapback]
perish the thought, i leave that to others tongue.gif

i didn't say that einstein was an atheist, i quoted him describing his posiiton as 'that of an agnostic'.

i think einstein's concept of 'personal' god is really rather important (in understanding his views), don't you think?

I frankly couldn't give a toss what Einstein believed. Do you want me to start quoting Jesus?

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 28 2008, 10:15 AM) [snapback]485516[/snapback]
Yes. Anyway, the debate has gone off topic. My point was really about the arrogance of some non-believers who hold those who do believe in contempt, and see themselves as intellectually superior. I used Einstein as a counter to that nonsense, I could have quoted other great intellects like Tolstoy or Doestoevsky, or a good few others, but whatever, you get my drift.

Exactly- some can't get their heads round 'God' and some can't get their heads round 'no God'. Either way it's just opinion.

I believe in a 'higher power'.
mortonjag 2008-07-28 10:38:05 OK folks-the Jag's just human. I've an arrangement to speak with a specialist this afternoon. Fingers crossed that the futures rosy. blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 09:08:11 Right folks-just back from St Andrews-as I promised I had a word with the gardener about the future-he looked rather askance and started singing-



I beg your pardon,
I never promised you a rose garden.
Along with the sunshine,
There's gotta be a little rain sometimes.
When you take, you gotta give, so live and let live,
Or let go.
I beg your pardon,
I never promised you a rose garden.

I commented that it would be nice to have a couple of new varieties in the next few seasons and he's promised to 'do his best'. Craigtoun meadows is highly recommended to all posters.


mortonjag 2008-08-04 09:29:14 Standman


3) Colin Stewart flapping at the corner. A really bad one to lose

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Tonosuarus

Stewart perhaps made a bad call for the goal


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irvineTON

'flapped about like a budgie'!

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Mags


To be fair to him,it was the only ball he missed all game....but it did cost us the game sad.gif
Mags.


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If anybody tells me this guy is an improvement on McGurn-he needs his heid looked. For a big man, his command of the box is NON-EXISTENT, and he flatly refuses to come off the line for anything.

Two good first half saves don't make up for inexplicable incompetence. WTF was he EVER signed? ph34r.gif


That's what I said last week and I stand by it. I didn't make the match so I guess I can be quite dispassionate.

Almost five minutes into injury time in a game you've deserved to win and they get a corner-THE MAIN MAN is the goalie-he's GOT to produce the goods.

Simple really! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 09:44:56
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 4 2008, 09:36 AM) [snapback]489061[/snapback]
Part timer.

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mortonjag 2008-08-04 09:47:20
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 4 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]489055[/snapback]
Ach well, that proves once and for all that you didn't write "One Day in the life of Ivan Denisovitch".

I was once dragged along to see that bloody thing at 'The Citizens'. It was twice as boring as the Chairman's programme notes! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 09:58:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 31 2008, 03:55 AM) [snapback]487001[/snapback]
Trick is so boring I still would vote Clinton for president now just to lighten things up
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You just want to sook her big boobies sonny boy!


I can't see the problem with Trick
He don't get on Mortonjag's wick
But daft little f*nnies
Who talk like old grannies
Make Mortonjag thoroughly sick! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 10:04:16
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 28 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]485681[/snapback]
Aware of that, the fact is that when indicators of deprivation are allowed for Glasgow schools underperform badly. There are a few exceptions to this trend. St Andrews Carntyne is an example.

Also East Ren schools tend to do very well compared to schools with similar catchment areas in places like Bearsden, Milngavie, Dunblane etc.

Bearsden and Milngavie are full of decadent snobbery, and Dunblane is a shot up hole.

The Mearns is the home of aspirant greed and Dr Bam-success is the catchword-Disce puer aut abi.
mortonjag 2008-08-04 10:14:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 4 2008, 10:12 AM) [snapback]489069[/snapback]
and teachers able to use apostrophes.

It's rather sad.

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Dr Bam is a Chemist-one of those pouffes in Boots.
mortonjag 2008-08-04 10:23:16
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 4 2008, 09:23 AM) [snapback]489058[/snapback]
I see the grandad was wearing a Sellick strip in the photo. I will venture no opinion on that fact.

And so it was to be, that after the waters receded, Noah commanded all
the animals to "Go forth and multiply" unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 11:29:10
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 4 2008, 10:46 AM) [snapback]489082[/snapback]
Your back, your not pan breid? . rolleyes.gif Unlike some on here, i thought you might have been on holiday?

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QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 4 2008, 11:08 AM) [snapback]489092[/snapback]
he was - his annual pilgrimage.

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The butcher in St Andrews makes excellent black pudding! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 11:35:04
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 3 2008, 02:50 PM) [snapback]488733[/snapback]
You DO buy into that drivel. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

It was started long before the first thatcher government of 1979, and the professionals and charities were pushing it.

Some facts.

The most important fact (and I blame Bawheid for it) is that care in the Community has by and large been a total 'cop out' to save MUNNY.

It's naive in the extreme to imagine that the way to help mentally ill people is to 'let them get on with it'.

Bawheid has much to answer for! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 11:41:01
QUOTE(dazed @ Aug 4 2008, 11:14 AM) [snapback]489097[/snapback]
Good grief! it must have been bloody awful then sad.gif

It was the most depressing visual spectacle I've ever witnessed-worse than our humping at Livvi last season! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 11:46:01 There's sure a lot of repressed anger on this massage board! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

mortonjag 2008-08-04 11:49:14
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Aug 4 2008, 11:12 AM) [snapback]489094[/snapback]
WELCOME BACK MJ happy.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-04 11:51:57
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 4 2008, 10:31 AM) [snapback]489076[/snapback]
Welcome back Ernie . Just as as well it wasn't the ginga makem from Castle Greyskull the website would have gone into meltdown .

I think we'll see a return of the wee "get yir macaroon" guy this time selling prozac

The Monkey's getting ideas!
mortonjag 2008-08-04 11:55:51
QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 3 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]488745[/snapback]
Was quite interested to see what a few folk had to say about Radio Scotland's coverage of the game yesterday, and heard the reports in the car on the way home when admittedly we hardly got a mention. What little coverage of the game there was seemed to be all about Clyde, and in comparison to the other First Division games it certainly wasn't much at all.

But is this a general theme or are we just being paranoid? Taking the Old Firm out of the equation completely, I think we definitely received more attention than our peers when in the Second and Third Divisions but it doesn't seem to be anything like the same as the likes of St. Johnstone, Clyde, Thistle, Dunfermline etc.

I'd probably bracket us with Hamilton and Queen of the South as teams that seem to just be "there" and are only really noticed in extreme circumstances like was the case with both of them last year.

Gone for the second option, lets be honest we'll never be a Thistle, Livingston or a Falkirk; probably the three teams of comparable size to ourselves that were responsible for damage to most of the media's laptops over the last few years as they started to masturbate furiously over the mere mention of.

Thoughts?

Why should we get media interest and publicity when we're as boring as the Sound of Music for the nth time?

We need a Hal Stewart-simple.
mortonjag 2008-08-04 12:08:07
QUOTE(MORETEN @ Aug 4 2008, 11:57 AM) [snapback]489121[/snapback]
HOW IS YOUR DAVE BY THE WAY? HAS HE SETTLED IN OK AT RAITH

Don't know-he had a 'shut out' against Ayr at the weekend.
mortonjag 2008-08-04 12:09:29
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 3 2008, 11:50 PM) [snapback]488959[/snapback]
I know we have a game in between times but I was wondering about our line up next week with Wake being out. Its a bit of a blow to be honest but I would prefer we stuck with our 3-4-3 line up and if McManus is fit by then, I would put him in the back line and move Weatherson upfront.

Neither Newby nor Russell are target men and they both prefer to play off a hold up man. Peter's the only other one we have apart from Wake.

The alternative I guess is to play 3-5-2 adding Masterton to midfield and hope he can make the forward passes for Newby and Russell

IF we'd got our signings right, Spoonsy would be available up front! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 12:15:59
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Aug 1 2008, 07:15 PM) [snapback]487700[/snapback]
Football isn't always fair tho. Perserverance that has cost Morton alot of money in wages & operations I'd imagine!
You imagine wrong dry.gif There is a strong case that Davie's injuries have been made worse by a reluctance to take medical action when it was required and the lack of decent medical advice/physio at the club for many years. I know for a fact his father has had to pay for operations and medical treatment while the club dithered and failed to react.

What the keyboard critics on here have to remember is that despite the injuries a number of managers have chosen to keep him, which means that people actually qualified to make these calls have consistently decided he’s good enough for Morton.

Knowing that Davie has a genuine affinity for Morton I believe he will try and play his way back into the team but if he doesn’t succeed by the Xmas transfer window he may very well decide to move on.



QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Aug 1 2008, 11:37 PM) [snapback]487811[/snapback]
We’re not best mates but yes I know him and his family to say hello to but I wouldn’t say that makes my views distorted and blinded! Does that mean cause you don’t know him your views are ignorant and unfounded?

What I said is true and who knows, with proper/better treatment maybe Davie would have played more and possibly even to a higher level.

What has happened is past and not worth dragging up but In my opinion his desire to give his all for the club may actually have contributed to his absence (coming back too early, playing whilst injured, poor treatment etc) and as such he doesn’t deserve a lot of the criticism about his injury record.

You HAVE just dragged it up and I DO think it's worthy of comment.

Just another example of the shambles behind the scenes. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 12:23:41
QUOTE(SramTon @ Aug 3 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]488637[/snapback]
[My emphasis in bold]

Exclusive by Keeny MacDonald.

Hamilton Accies chairman Ronnie MacDonald has waded into the debate over Scotalnd's referres - by telling his fellow chairmen they're LUCKY to have them.

MacDonald went for his first meeting with his new SPL fellow-chairmen at Dalmahoy last month - and wasted no time in telling them to give refs a break.

And he promised officials they won't see his Accies players badgering them in the coming season.

He said: "We'd had an SPL gathering at Dalmahoy. I enjoyed it, and managed to button my lip for most of it.

I told them they wouldn't see our players running after referees. I said I didn't know where they'd all come from but I know where I've come from. I started in juvenile football and my biggest worry on a matchday wasn't having enough players - it was that the referee wouldn't turn up. So when the ref turned the corner - even if he was the worst referee in the world - I was glad to see him.

But the way it's going, we're putting people off becoming young referees at grass roots level. They need a bit more respect.

This led to a bit of a debate. 'Are they doing their best or are they cheats? No, they're doing their best, they're not cheats but they're not good enough'

My reply was, 'Well, maybe referees think the way you're running your club is wrong'.

If any of our players gets sent off for dissent it will not only cost them a week's wages, they'll also be in to see me to have it emphasised that a referee won't change his mind in a million years - so gie the guy a break!"

Outspoken and refreshing, MacDonald will ruffle SPL feathers [continues for a few more hundred words, but I've lost the will to go on].


Nope a boring self indulgent sycophantic arsehole with a Secretary doubling as an SFA committee member! ph34r.gif
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 3 2008, 01:23 PM) [snapback]488682[/snapback]
I was at Palmerston yesterday and the ref and linesmen (I refuse to use the PC term assistant referee) were dressed in outfits of such a bright yellow hue that I got sunburn from them. I thought they were supposed to be doing a good job if you didn't notice them. No chance of that with those outfits - or are they tacitly admitting that they aren't very good?

That stuff from the Hamilton chairman smacks of severe hypocrisy
- although what he says is actually worthwhile. I assume we will get that extra point and goal added to our total for last season now that Hamilton are admitting they were wrong to bully the ref.

SPOT ON.

QUOTE(axeman @ Aug 3 2008, 04:03 PM) [snapback]488744[/snapback]
The cosy wee arrangement whereby the Accies secretary Scott Struthers is also on the SFA Disciplinary Committee, might make Ronnie MacDonald more on the refs side. Then again as far as I can remember Hamilton & Arsenal are the only clubs I've ever seen get a ref to change his decision.

I have written to the SFA twice since I was told the Thomson decision was 'being investigated', with no response forthcoming.

IMHO Scott Struthers is a pouffe weasel, but let's not fret-the plastic playpen will be relegated! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 12:31:19
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Aug 4 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]489126[/snapback]
McGuffie is anything BUT workshy. dry.gif

I agree-Huffy and Superkev are at two ends of a spectrum-one gets plaudits for 'Much ado about nothing' (or 'The comedy of errors') while the other gets lambasted for being 'The invisible man'!


I've always preferred Wells to Shakespeare.

mortonjag 2008-08-04 12:35:09
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 4 2008, 10:31 AM) [snapback]489075[/snapback]
That's a pharmacist as you well know ya auld rogue.

There is a difference? mellow.gif

QUOTE(forza ton @ Aug 4 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]489088[/snapback]
very clever you w*nker

May I call you a C*NT? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 12:36:56
QUOTE(stuart @ Jul 30 2008, 12:05 AM) [snapback]486432[/snapback]
Clock for sale, buy it on tick.

Apply in writing to DDF Rae-Cappielow Park Greenock.
mortonjag 2008-08-04 12:44:42 Semen is a superb contact adhesive-is that an accident of nature, or are we supposed to make use of it? mellow.gif

mortonjag 2008-08-04 12:50:10
QUOTE(tontastic @ Aug 2 2008, 07:01 PM) [snapback]488373[/snapback]
Spoke to Cuthbert before the game ... should be signed Monday. Should have been down as a triallist really today.

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QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 2 2008, 09:39 PM) [snapback]488470[/snapback]
Stewart, by all accounts, was pretty solid today. No reason to suddenly drop him.

He cost us two points-FACT! laugh.gif

QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 2 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]488478[/snapback]
Why is Stewart making one mistake any worse than Russell missing 2 good chances?

He was totally unfairly pilloried on here by people before he had even played one game and now some people are demanding he is dropped after he played a really good game for us save for one mistake.

No goalkeeper at our level will get through games without making mistakes.

He was totally fairly criticised by me for having no presence and being scared to come off his line.

QUOTE(SramTon @ Aug 3 2008, 02:51 AM) [snapback]488566[/snapback]
You're not comparing apples with apples.

A forward's main job is to score/create goals. So long as he is scoring/creating his share, it doesn't matter too much how many chances are being missed. See McCoist, Ally for example.

A keeper's job is to stop goals being scored. If a keeper gives away goals he's not doing his job (and better be balancing it out with at least as many wondersaves).

Btw, the foregoing is just general comment and isn't intended as a specific criticism of Stewart.

CORRECT!
mortonjag 2008-08-04 12:56:06
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 4 2008, 11:40 AM) [snapback]489111[/snapback]
I'm sure that's why politicians of all stripes are so keen on it.

I assume you mean the 'saving MUNNY' bit!

Politicians shouldn't be let anywhere near Medicine (or Teaching for that matter).

They should all be put out to 'Care in the Community' where they would ceremoniously have f*ck booted out of them by society of all degrees of sanity.
mortonjag 2008-08-04 12:57:48
QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 4 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]489129[/snapback]
Everyone that thought you were away at the hospital and were all worried about you will be annoyed

Or maybe relieved, I don't know.

Did ANYBODY think I was ill? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 12:58:56
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 4 2008, 12:28 PM) [snapback]489128[/snapback]
Not to mention the repressed homosexuality.

You reckon we have lots of pouffes in the closet?
mortonjag 2008-08-04 13:00:22
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 4 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]489139[/snapback]
He was playing two positions. He had to cover for the fat drunk quite a few times.

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mortonjag 2008-08-04 13:03:32
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 4 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]489110[/snapback]
Out on a branch here I see. rolleyes.gif

I thought that One day was a wonderful book, not a political tract, rather a story about humanity vs a political machine, not a million miles away from Kafka's "The Trial" or Koestler's "Darkness at Noon".
BTW chaps, if you have not read "Darkness at noon" try to do so.

His short stories were most fine too and reflected the same themes as "Ivan Denisovitch".
Of his tomes "Cancer Ward" is imho the best.

An anti semite DE, never saw it in his works.

Bloody hell-you READ books like those-analytical chemist farmy cyst you MUST be!

I much prefer the Beano.
mortonjag 2008-08-04 14:09:57
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Aug 4 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]489166[/snapback]
First Morton game since this bad boy

I'm awfy excited

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Tell me-is the DEAL still on-four days without a mention of ******* or *****!! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 14:11:31 I have yielded to massive pressure from the boys. We will go to Stranraer and we F*CKIN BETTER win!
mortonjag 2008-08-04 14:20:28
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Aug 4 2008, 02:11 PM) [snapback]489169[/snapback]
That's not like you at all. There's a first for everything, eh?

fat .
–adjective
having too much flabby tissue; corpulent; obese: a fat person.


drunk
–noun
an intoxicated person
mortonjag 2008-08-04 14:25:58 I see superkev's only had one vote! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 14:26:50
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Aug 4 2008, 08:22 AM) [snapback]489047[/snapback]
I noticed the difference when Wake was sent for an early bath on Sturday. U don't actually realise how well the big man holds the ball up! Gonna be a big loss for us when suspended. sad.gif

Sending off was harsh. Clyde were trying to be a physical outfit but being over-powered, so decided to roll about a hell of a lot!! mad.gif



How early in the game was he sent off?
mortonjag 2008-08-04 14:28:02
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 4 2008, 01:07 PM) [snapback]489149[/snapback]
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Lemon juice makes excellent invisible ink.
mortonjag 2008-08-04 14:34:41 If somebody can define a 'ghost' or show me a wee picture he took of a 'ghost' I'll find it easier to comment.

'Supernatural' experiences undoubtedly exist-that does NOT mean that they don't have unexplained natural causes.
mortonjag 2008-08-04 14:58:13
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 2 2008, 09:38 PM) [snapback]488469[/snapback]
I bet you wouldn't have went into that detail if deego had been allowed in here tongue.gif

You didn't miss the detail yourself! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 15:13:06
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Aug 4 2008, 03:08 PM) [snapback]489204[/snapback]
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Beetroot is used as a dye.
mortonjag 2008-08-04 15:15:07
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 4 2008, 01:08 PM) [snapback]489152[/snapback]
Some still do, mentally wink.gif

Do you share that opinion big booby sooker? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 15:24:12 I haven't read and can't be ARSED reading the same wishy washy quasi enlightened pish from the usual culprits who find a good kick in the c*nt offensive to their lily livered and delicate little pscyhes.

Flog the little vermin within an inch of their lives-oh-and while we're at it, 'pink botty' time for the myopic fools who are happy to perpetuate mindless violence by weak kneed pandering to self destructive 'political correctness'. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif

mortonjag 2008-08-04 15:34:55
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Aug 4 2008, 03:14 PM) [snapback]489213[/snapback]
any other wonderful facts?

ME! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 15:36:18 More speculation about a currently much overvalued player! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 15:38:41
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 4 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]489196[/snapback]
With us having most on the play you'd have thought one of the more foward thinking players would have stood out more . Especially against the weaker team .

Russell does miss an awful lot but he also gets into those positions more than any other player we have . I think if he can start putting a few away he can a huge player for us .

Tonsillitis doesn't like ***** laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 15:43:53
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Aug 4 2008, 02:47 PM) [snapback]489193[/snapback]
Did you get someone to arbitrate? I never got confirmation.

And those green asterix is just cheating!

But, aye, £4 I owe the hospice now I figure.

I wasn't meaning to cheat, and If it's still a deal I'll keep my side of the bargain-I tried to get folk interested as some others made noises about joining in. Why don't you start another thread-I'll even promise not to mention Bawheid for three months if we can get a Scot Nat Pledge-Wee Nickerless also if we get two.

I have many other nicknames I could put on 'hold'! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 15:51:33
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 4 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]489212[/snapback]
It was f***ing pish. Watching Morton has the entertainment factor of Weirs Way.

Was it REALLY that bad?

All my predictions coming true?

Beefed up and hard to beat but no creativity and no entertainment?

Stewart a liability. Jimbo and Kev superfluous to requirements. No wing play-no full backs?

Oh and after we beat Stranraer we'll be tipped for the SPL!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 15:54:20
QUOTE(MarcoTon @ Aug 4 2008, 03:49 PM) [snapback]489234[/snapback]
Big Stewart Greacen was immense today. Easily my man of the match, Keep it up big man.

Also thought Alex Walker, Spoonsy, and Wakey are also worth a mention.

I thought the 'fat drunk' was only allowed criticism! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 15:55:32
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Aug 4 2008, 03:52 PM) [snapback]489236[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED-the REFS!
mortonjag 2008-08-04 15:57:35
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 2 2008, 10:32 PM) [snapback]488481[/snapback]
I thought we were physically stronger than Clyde today and out muscled them all over the park. You need a bit of football to win championships as well as strength but in this league not being easily pushed off the ball is very important and thats not going to happen to us many times this season.

Another way of looking at it is, if you were to pick a select from todays two teams, how many Clyde players would be in it? Me, I thought that McLaren looked good but other than that, we were either better or physically stronger or both in most departments today.

Now, if the same was to apply to five or six of the rest of the teams, we could be fine this season!

Jaggy boy's been predicting 5th for weeks on end because we'll be 'hard to beat'.

Now-how about some bloody entertainment! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 15:58:34
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Aug 4 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]489240[/snapback]
the burd looks quite nice

Which one?
mortonjag 2008-08-04 16:07:27 I was in a wee fruiterers shop in Cupar at the weekend (the shop was wee, and the fruiterer was wee too), and I spotted a display stand sporting Mr Rae's best confectionery.

In a moment of weakness-of nostalgia almost- I purchased a bag of his 'Soor Plooms'-half of which remains in my glove compartment (the whole bag and half of the original total number of sweets, or thereby) for sooking to and from Stranraer.

I paid 99p and 49p for a can of diet Coke, and didn't even get the Monkey a banana.
mortonjag 2008-08-04 16:11:06
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 4 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]489226[/snapback]
You know damn well there is you old sawbones. laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-04 16:13:08 Maybe Mr Rae could do a wee deal on the all new Wispy Wudga
mortonjag 2008-08-04 16:15:10
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Aug 4 2008, 04:11 PM) [snapback]489251[/snapback]
muz - email me at sintay_galeska@msn.com and i'll send you his email address.

BLOODY HELL MANKY'S GONE SOFT-he's blocked p.m's, and Mortonjag's just sent hin 47 offensive e-mails! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 16:16:24
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 4 2008, 04:10 PM) [snapback]489248[/snapback]
I pondered this mystery for years. Why would someone won't to kill Jill Dando? The answer is obvious. It was a case of mistaken identity. The intended victim was actually Judith Chalmers.

or Judy Murray? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 16:27:32
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 4 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]489078[/snapback]
If you get on at a manned station without a valid ticket and have to purchase it on the train you get charged the peak fair, regardless if it is a half or a full. There are plenty of signs at stations stating this.

The free kids thing is only at the weekends I think.

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mortonjag 2008-08-04 16:29:13
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 1 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]487717[/snapback]
Surely a cheaper way would be to change your name by deed poll to match the registration number of your car? huh.gif



UPU 2



is self explanatory! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 16:31:52
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 4 2008, 04:30 PM) [snapback]489261[/snapback]
Use it for cooking. Coq au Vin or maybe a nice wee Beef Bourgignon.

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mortonjag 2008-08-04 16:35:17
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 31 2008, 08:59 PM) [snapback]487302[/snapback]
I'll be booing laugh.gif Fekin right bouncy.gif




Will they be singing the lyrics or just playing the choon Spurtle-I quite like the choon, though I once almost got a doing for refusing to stand up when it was played (in a certain pub)! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 16:41:23
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 4 2008, 04:35 PM) [snapback]489265[/snapback]
For those of you who may be interested, Mouse Eat Mouse are performing at the 13th Note in King Street Glasgow on Thursday August 21st at 8pm.

Hopefully see some you there.
http://www.myspace.com/mousehq
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...iendid=40419293




I just discovered the mouse eat mouse web site-I was listening to the wee choon when my partner asked 'what's that-it's rubbish'?

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mortonjag 2008-08-04 16:47:00
QUOTE(bigstu22 @ Aug 2 2008, 11:10 AM) [snapback]487990[/snapback]
Anyone else got private plates?

Aye-only pouffes don't have them those days.

QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Aug 3 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]488854[/snapback]
so see if mines says JACQU1 does that make me a w*nker?????????????? ohmy.gif

Can't use a 'Q' in normal registrations!

J4KYS laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 16:50:06
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Aug 4 2008, 03:15 PM) [snapback]489215[/snapback]
He's very important for us these days, but I think we can do ok with Russell and Newby up top. It will be a very different game as we will look for those 2 in the channels a lot, much like in the Renfrewshire Cup Final, which may leave us a little short in the box. It will be very important to get the midfield up in support when we get the ball wide.

To Newby or Russell as our 'wingers' are keech.
mortonjag 2008-08-04 16:51:15
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 4 2008, 04:48 PM) [snapback]489275[/snapback]

TFIWM! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 16:51:49
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 4 2008, 04:37 PM) [snapback]489267[/snapback]
I'm rofling. Shag her though.

Which one?
mortonjag 2008-08-04 16:55:50
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 4 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]489279[/snapback]
Take the money and run! blush.gif

Fling in Kev for an extra £20,000! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 16:58:09
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 4 2008, 04:55 PM) [snapback]489284[/snapback]
Welcome back biggrin.gif glad you enjoyed your trip.

TY--BTW the Monkey loves the signature with the nuns in it!
mortonjag 2008-08-04 17:00:57
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Aug 4 2008, 04:57 PM) [snapback]489289[/snapback]
it's my junk address. you can join the nigerian scammers and canadian medicine salemen if you like, i won't be reading them.

Sells swish west end flat and buys house boat in Hong Kong.
mortonjag 2008-08-04 17:08:20
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 4 2008, 04:57 PM) [snapback]489287[/snapback]
Yes, but other animal species lick their own baws (if available) and can't make a bowl of soup. rolleyes.gif
The line between the animal kingdom and Moley's cafe remains blurred however. unsure.gif

I'm reliably informed that those knife wielding thickos cannot even open a can of soup.

As for them having baws-I'd soon see to that. bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 17:10:43
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 4 2008, 05:04 PM) [snapback]489295[/snapback]
So? He's pish up front! laugh.gif

Not ALWAYS! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 17:28:41
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 4 2008, 05:16 PM) [snapback]489302[/snapback]
I've always said, you'll either love us or hate.

I couldn't make my mind up on the basis of one choon TBH! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 17:30:25
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 4 2008, 05:28 PM) [snapback]489308[/snapback]
People who have weans at 15 have a tendency to learn little at school.

People who learn a lot at school tend not to have weans at 15.
mortonjag 2008-08-04 17:33:27
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 4 2008, 05:09 PM) [snapback]489300[/snapback]
I do actually like Russell. He's a whole hearted trier and he gets himself into lots and lots of scoring positions. I would just like to see him score a higher proportion of his chances. In particlualr I can think of at least six one on ones with the keeper and I have yet to see him score one.

He seems best as a striker when he does'nt get a chance to think about his shot and just reacts instinctively.

Oh and I would like to see him stay on his feet more. He goes over a bit too easily for my liking.

His purple patch will come-it happens to all good strikers Mr Russell will end up top scorer this season unless Spoonsy is moved forward! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 17:37:16
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 4 2008, 05:21 PM) [snapback]489304[/snapback]
You'll like this!

As is my thing I have had occasion to be looking at a few player's stats recently and these are Spoonsey's

Total appearances for Morton up to yesterday - 196 starts plus 9 off the bench
First appearance - 2nd August 2003 (scored hat trick against Arbroath in 4-3 victory)
Goals scored - 74

Thats not a bad record and a better goalscoring record than anyone currently at the club. So, no matter what his critics think, he's not a bad an option upfront!


I LOVE IT


THE 'FAT DRUNK' WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A STRIKER AND WHEN HE GETS THIN AND 'DRY' HE'LL SCORE THIRTY A SEASON!

mortonjag 2008-08-04 17:41:41
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 4 2008, 05:35 PM) [snapback]489312[/snapback]
All you need is an ounce of common sense - or see the local babykiller doctor. unsure.gif

You are confusing me here-are you referring to my penchant for tender meat and cannibalism, or the average G.P.s statutory requirement to 'refer on' patients requesting termination of pregnancy?
mortonjag 2008-08-04 19:51:19
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 4 2008, 06:00 PM) [snapback]489320[/snapback]
'When' he gets thin?

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mortonjag 2008-08-04 19:55:07
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 4 2008, 04:57 PM) [snapback]489290[/snapback]
unsure.gif

TFIWMorrrissey! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 19:56:00
QUOTE(C B @ Aug 4 2008, 06:53 PM) [snapback]489352[/snapback]
you missed a nought dry.gif

Sorry CB---£2,000!
mortonjag 2008-08-04 19:57:38
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 4 2008, 07:49 PM) [snapback]489363[/snapback]
Correct. The way some go on here about Peter is ridiculous at times. He is a very capable player at this level.

THE 'FAT DRUNK' WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A STRIKER!
mortonjag 2008-08-04 20:00:07
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 4 2008, 05:45 PM) [snapback]489315[/snapback]
Suprised to see Mortonjag so easily confused. rolleyes.gif

No you're not! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 20:01:23 FUDGY WUDGY ph34r.gif choked my budgie!
mortonjag 2008-08-04 20:03:58
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Aug 4 2008, 07:55 PM) [snapback]489368[/snapback]
looks like it was designed by Colin and Justin.

Perfect for a quarter pounders logo!
mortonjag 2008-08-04 20:05:35
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 4 2008, 07:56 PM) [snapback]489370[/snapback]
You'd think a doctor like yourself would concede that efforts to shift some weight isn't certain to succeed, no?

In my humble and extensive experience, EFFORTS to shift some weight are invariably met with some success!
mortonjag 2008-08-04 20:10:05 I think what happens is that Jimbo usually gets pulled down when he inevitably turns inside the right back, and the Refs are always unsighted because he's between them and the defenders tootsies. The Refs should just automatically blow for a free kick the minute Jimbo starts one of his mazy runs, cos everybody knows what's going to happen anyway! angel.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 20:11:07
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 4 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]489380[/snapback]
Moz did a cover of that song, thought about posting it. Went for the original though.

The Monkey approves!
mortonjag 2008-08-04 20:11:57
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 4 2008, 08:06 PM) [snapback]489379[/snapback]
Just ask midTONs!

How many times has he scored in the last month? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 20:28:46
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mortonjag 2008-08-04 20:31:29 Stranraer 0 Morton 4 (Russell2, Wake, McGuffie) smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 09:00:35
QUOTE(SramTon @ Aug 4 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]489394[/snapback]
Hmm, I thought emphasising words in bold from the original newspaper quote would have made my intentions clear, but I think one or two have misinterpreted me. For the record, I agree entirely with the following:
Doubt anyone cares, but I'll be losing sleep at the thought that anyone thinks I was actually backing MacDonald on this!! sleep.gif

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I think your emphasis of your emphasis made your real feelings pretty clear. I hear the Refs may be about to strike-it's not just about money they claim-more about having their integrity and ability respected.

How can downing your whistle gain you more respect?

They are already a shower of greedy b*****ds doing part time jobs for (at SPL level at least) more than twice as much as the average national income, to say nothing of all the freebies and junketry.

Respect, as ever, is earned, and the truth is that refereeing in Scotland ain't that respectable.

Going 'on strike' for more money-at least I understand greed. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 09:03:13
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 4 2008, 10:08 PM) [snapback]489435[/snapback]
A quarter pound c**k maybe!!!!

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mortonjag 2008-08-05 09:08:24
QUOTE(C B @ Aug 4 2008, 09:07 PM) [snapback]489412[/snapback]
Yes cause that's what missed means, having one extra blink.gif

CB-here's a serious proposition!

Would you care to give your fellow posters a short summary of Kev's attributes, which in your opinion make him a valuable right sided attacking player, and preferable to a proper right winger (which is my only real gripe about him).
mortonjag 2008-08-05 09:11:13
QUOTE(Pedro1874 @ Aug 4 2008, 09:57 PM) [snapback]489427[/snapback]
I've heard romours form clyde fans that our goal on satuarday was offside what do you think?
No papers have picked up on it. But they seem adamint.

It happens all the time-who cares if he was marginally on or off?
mortonjag 2008-08-05 09:16:27
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 4 2008, 08:55 PM) [snapback]489407[/snapback]
I'll just settle for a victory! Stair Park is not a happy hunting ground!

See you all there!

Old misery guts-if I pass that clapped out Peugeot of yours the Monkey will throw you some nuts to cheer you up. laugh.gif

QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 4 2008, 09:50 PM) [snapback]489424[/snapback]
Stranraer 1-1 Morton ( Stranraer win 4-1 on penalties)
if it was any other competition i'd have us down to win, but this competition hates us.

JM hath departed-we are hard to beat-we'll be a GOOD cup side this season.

Mortonjag hath spoken.

QUOTE(princessTON @ Aug 4 2008, 10:03 PM) [snapback]489431[/snapback]
im sorry but im gonna have to say 2-1 stranraer sad.gif

I heard Jason Walker's trialling for Stranraer tonight princess! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 09:19:17
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 5 2008, 02:40 AM) [snapback]489500[/snapback]
I don't think it was.

Most people I spoke to were gutted by the late goal but upbeat about the performance.

Was it exciting?
mortonjag 2008-08-05 09:27:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 5 2008, 07:04 AM) [snapback]489507[/snapback]
well, 2 months have passed.

Still ZERO investment ??

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The script appears pretty simple Newt. Alistair wants control of the club he is almost as passionate about as he is about the Huns, though I'm CERTAIN he'll not be at Stair Park tonight! rolleyes.gif


Crawford will be getting the stadium up to SPL standards on the strength of the recent share issue which is strictly earmarked for that purpose (note the specificity of the funding, which smacks of AD).

In the meantime it has been reported that the Chairman has already been approached with an offer, but that he and Mr Donald could not agree terms.

From those simple pieces of information, it's easy to deduce the reason for his non investment so far! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 09:44:18
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 4 2008, 04:50 PM) [snapback]489277[/snapback]
jag - you didn't make the game so let me correct you.

Stewart was VERY dominant in his box. He had three or four excellent punches clear and was as vocal a keeper as I've seen.

A MASSIVE improvement on McGurn based on that performance.

That's good news, and NOT what I noticed in the matches I saw. Furthermore, we'll be stronger in front of the goalie when the central defence injuries clear up.

Back to JonaTON's point about his unreliability! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 09:49:02
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 4 2008, 08:59 PM) [snapback]489410[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Aug 4 2008, 06:51 PM) [snapback]489349[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I see what you're saying, but then does it not worry you that we didn't actually beat them huh.gif

It wasnt unlike the game we had to win last year which ended up 1-1. There is no advantage in looking better than the opposing team if you can't get the result?

A better barometer for where we are will be next week against St Elmos Johnstone.
I take your point but Clyde were lucky on Saturday and there will be times when the luck will flow the other way. A lot of people were seeing Clyde as dark horses and maybe they will be yet but we made them look fairly ordinary.

All we need is to start taking a few of the chances that are falling to...................Russell!! blush.gif

ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif

All we need is two decent wingers and a ball playing midfielder and Russell will do just dandy! cool.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 09:51:38
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 5 2008, 07:24 AM) [snapback]489513[/snapback]
THE 'FAT DRUNK' WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A DRINKER???!
blink.gif blink.gif

Ask ThornTON, Newt-it's his description! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 09:54:51
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 5 2008, 09:29 AM) [snapback]489534[/snapback]
Happy with my lot. happy.gif



1 Timothy 6:8 If we have food and covering, with these we shall be content. blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 10:01:55
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 4 2008, 10:54 PM) [snapback]489452[/snapback]
Publishers of "lads' mags" should be held to account for encouraging irresponsible young men to view women as sex objects, the Conservatives said.

Senior shadow cabinet member Michael Gove said titles such as Zoo and Nuts reinforced a "shallow approach" to women, and linked them to a rise in feckless fatherhood and family breakdown.

In a high-profile speech on family and society, Mr Gove also accused Gordon Brown of undermining communities through an obsession with state control.

Mr Gove said the Tories saw stable families as a "route to greater equality and opportunity" and pledged to support them through the tax system.

He told the Institute for Public Policy Research in London: "Helping adults commit and stay committed not only opens the door to a depth of emotional enrichment which a series of shallow and hedonistic encounters can never generate, it also provides the best possible start in life for children."

The drive to reduce the number of teenage pregnancies should be focussed on making young men face up to their responsibilities, he said, beginning with lads' mags.

"I believe we need to ask tough questions about the instant-hit hedonism celebrated by the modern men's magazines targeted at younger males.

"Titles such as Nuts and Zoo paint a picture of women as permanently, lasciviously, uncomplicatedly available. The images they use and project reinforce a very narrow conception of beauty and a shallow approach towards women. They celebrate thrill-seeking and instant gratification without ever allowing any thought of responsibility towards others, or commitment, to intrude.

"The contrast with the work done by women's magazines, and their publishers, to address their readers in a mature and responsible fashion, is striking.

"We should ask those who make profits out of revelling in, or encouraging, selfish irresponsibility among young men, what they think they're doing. The relationship between these titles and their readers is a relationship in which the rest of us have an interest."

Now why don't they criticise tabloid journalism about some of the seedier sides ofgutter journalism . I don't know what the circulation of such magazines are but has this idiot never heard of the internet .

How can politicians solve problems when they are so off base with the causes .

As always the Tories are stuck in a Victorian warp. The greatest transformation in the gender stakes in the last generation has been the empowerment of (young) women.

They are more than happy with, and go to enormous lengths to promote their sexuality and desirability, more often than not with a view to much more than just a'quickie' up the close. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 10:08:54
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Aug 5 2008, 07:22 AM) [snapback]489511[/snapback]
you calling me a jakie???? probably right there! lol nah only joking! if its a cherished plate can it be used???


I've checked for you and all the current numbers which read anything like Jaqui have been sold!
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 5 2008, 07:44 AM) [snapback]489515[/snapback]
wot about AUELOX ?

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mortonjag 2008-08-05 10:21:58
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 5 2008, 08:17 AM) [snapback]489520[/snapback]
I've made my living from the music industry for the last 20 years. We're not all cocaine snorting champaine guzzling Londoners.
Dave is a fine chap it has to be said.



Who is this Dave guy-I hope nobody is referring to the clatty drop oot with the smelliest trainers in Hyndland, a f*cked Aga, and a bristling resentment of all success except his own! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 10:27:00
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 4 2008, 11:15 PM) [snapback]489463[/snapback]
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Staffed.
mortonjag 2008-08-05 10:33:17
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 5 2008, 10:09 AM) [snapback]489549[/snapback]
In that wee swedish oddity you've got?? Eat my dust!! laugh.gif


My little Swedish oddity can rip the French knickers off that Gallic Giddyup!


QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 5 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]489554[/snapback]
We'll pass you both in our turbo charged bus/coach/big thing with huge wheels, just let us know if you want a bovril kept for you. rolleyes.gif

On the road to Stranraer very little gets past a bus, and NOTHING gets past Mortonjag! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 12:15:53
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Aug 5 2008, 09:44 AM) [snapback]489541[/snapback]
I enjoyed it. Far better performance than any pre season friendlies. Russell still missed a header on the edge of the six yard box, also missed one on one with the keeper but did hit woodwork twice so he is getting into goal scoring positions and we are improving the supply. Jim and Kev are definately playing more withdrawn roles , not pretty to watch. Stewart had two fine saves , I am happier with him than I have been in a Morton keeper for many years.

It had to be exciting. 1- 0 hanging on ref booked 6 !!! Morton players , all scared to put in a tackle or they were off, so clyde pouring on the pressure and the sand glass slowing to a trickle.

Thanks-looking forward to tonight!

QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 5 2008, 10:59 AM) [snapback]489573[/snapback]
The performance wasn't overly bad but there was little flowing football or flair on show and the only "excitement" was created by the appalling officiating.

I was bored out my skull in the first half as AT's picture shows. laugh.gif

So it was a big improvement on last season but the JM legacy of 'flinging it away' has to be sorted.
mortonjag 2008-08-05 12:24:34 It looks like DI is obsessed with the Morton version of the Maginot Line.

Shimmin was excellent in the second half against Hartlepool-he took control and looked very mature. If we get Cuthbert too, I reckon the 'goals against' this season will be the lowest since Rae took the reins.

I STILL can't understand our lack of wing backs, wingers, and a creative midfielder. Is there more to come?

Maybe AD's been giving DI a fly wee sub! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 12:27:50
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 5 2008, 11:13 AM) [snapback]489578[/snapback]
I believe "prawn flicker's" the term you were groping for. blush.gif

You've been sporting your prawn in public AGAIN! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 12:31:14 How many of you spoon fed weans will be attending a proper University?
mortonjag 2008-08-05 12:39:26
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 5 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]489606[/snapback]
This forum doesn't accept your PC pi5h happy.gif

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It's not MY PC pish young man-I'm no lover of Political Correctness as you very well know.

I get quite upset by adverts for 'Professional Wrestler-testicles not essential but could be an advantage' etc., etc.

I just feel that 'manned' is liable to provoke a reaction, irrespective of its correctness! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 12:45:16
QUOTE(El gofer @ Aug 5 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]489631[/snapback]
MJ, Stewart, I think was fouled for the goal. I thought he played well. I dont think he is a liability.
I thought Jim was disappointing, but Kev got up and down.

At the moment, I agree that we may not be that entertaining. In my eyes that is what we need at the mo. To stabilise in the division, we needed beefed up. Teams wont run over the top of us.

I can only go on what I saw-hopefully you are correct.

'What we need' at the moment is entirely a matter of opinion. I'm happy that we'll be hard to beat, and unhappy that it's been apparently done to the detriment of productive attacking football. The game IS supposed to be an entertainment-well that's MY opinion!
mortonjag 2008-08-05 12:50:15
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Aug 5 2008, 12:26 PM) [snapback]489629[/snapback]
JAgster, didnt the Maginot Line get breached though?

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PRECISELY my point


Generally considered one of the great failures of military history, the term "Maginot Line" is now sometimes used as a metaphor for something that is confidently relied upon, but in the end proves ineffective.

No use if we can't score goals!!! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 12:56:03
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 5 2008, 12:28 PM) [snapback]489633[/snapback]
C'mon Jag. All good teams are built from the back. DI's going about the job in the correct manner, only problem is we may have to suffer a while as he works his way forward. laugh.gif

St Mirren were clean sheet specialists on their march to the SPL, we could be the same. biggrin.gif

My gut instinct is that there could be another two on the way. cool.gif



Really!

The most successful, and BY FAR the most exciting Ton team I can remember had this forward nine:


Adamson, Stevenson, Caven, McGraw, and Wilson.

The rest were, by any standards average to goodISH, and they simply rampaged their way to promotion.

If we had that forward line tonight, we could probably ask JM to supply the rest from Firs Park and we'd still win! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 13:00:26
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 5 2008, 12:52 PM) [snapback]489660[/snapback]
Well it wasn't technicaly breached, more circumnavigated, although nothing stops your crusades against the board and management. blush.gif

That is a well known myth SPARROT-it WAS breached in the Belgian sector-and regarding any crusade against the Management-grow up. I always try to highlight the good and bad points in anything-I've praised DI/DC for much of what they've achieved. We now need attractive attacking football to bring the crowds back. In that respect I'm being supportive of the Board too! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 13:04:09 Pink is for Pouffe Partick Ponces
mortonjag 2008-08-05 13:12:49
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 5 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]489639[/snapback]
Define your proper University.

Everybody who's anybody knows what a proper University is.

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 5 2008, 12:44 PM) [snapback]489649[/snapback]
As Fankie Boyle would say, one that didn't use to be a swimming pool.

Someone has posted 'higher photography' above. Can you actually do a higher in photography? Seems like a joke. Could I do a higher in hill walking?

You could probably do a Ph.D. in flower pressing as some of today's 'Universities'!

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 5 2008, 12:54 PM) [snapback]489662[/snapback]
Adv History - C (appeal)
Adv English - B (appeal)
Modern Studies - A
Accounts - A

Well, well, well, SPARROT-I'm shocked at the History-looks like they were expecting more than regurgitation! oops.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 15:32:45
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 5 2008, 01:03 PM) [snapback]489671[/snapback]
The Maginot line did not extend to the Belgian sector: had it did so the Germans would not have conquered France.

Had it DONE so! rolleyes.gif

From 'Wiki'---


It is a myth however that the Maginot line ended at the Belgian border and was easy to circumvent. The fortifications were connected to the Belgian fortification system, of which the strongest point was Fort Eben Emael. The Germans broke through exactly at this fortified point which made it possible for them to invade France.

Mortonjag

History ..A

English ...A


M.A. in English and History from a proper University, and always here to help, son! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 15:42:48
QUOTE(leyTON @ Aug 5 2008, 01:18 PM) [snapback]489682[/snapback]
adv higher english C
higher french - B
higher sociology - *cough*

chuffed to be honest, although will probably appeal english. Enough to attend the proper uni of my choice, strathclyde

Strathclyde has developed into a reasonably proper University-it was not always so!

QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 5 2008, 01:21 PM) [snapback]489685[/snapback]
Schnapp. Strathclyde for me too.

Another for Anderson's college! blush.gif

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 5 2008, 01:33 PM) [snapback]489694[/snapback]
So long as you acknowledge your sources, it is seen as a vital part of the course. 1eye.gif
We shall see how the appeal works out.

I just have this wee theory SPARROT that if you're going to be rated on your ability to spew back loads of bumph, you should be sitting advanced Parrotry! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 15:46:14
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 25 2008, 08:02 PM) [snapback]484021[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-08-05 16:01:59
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 5 2008, 03:52 PM) [snapback]489787[/snapback]
I'm with Mr McArthur, they are brain dead central.

There was a decent piece in Today's times by the first editor of Loaded.
Clicky

I honestly don't think that those magazines do much to alter the desperate need of impressionable young men to 'score'! Literate or otherwise, they still spend half their lives with hard ons, dreaming of shagging whatever seems most exciting-NOT of establishing a lasting and loving relationship. For advice on the second, I'd suggest the Bible, or preferably current divorce statistics.

Referring to your Times article and my previous comment, I also noted this---



Likewise, Mr Gove's suggestion that women's magazines are in some way more mature in their perspective on relationships and sex is ludicrous. Yes, they have fewer pin-ups, but if you put together a woman based on the editorial content of all women's magazines you would end up with a neurotic, diet-addicted shopaholic who is obsessed with her hair and paranoid that she will never get a man. Men, like women. are more than the contents of their favourite magazines.
mortonjag 2008-08-05 16:09:50
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 5 2008, 03:47 PM) [snapback]489784[/snapback]
Indeed John St Tech has indeed come on. rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 5 2008, 03:53 PM) [snapback]489788[/snapback]
Yes well consulting and using sources of knowledge eminently greater than your own seems like a good idea IMO. happy.gif
Would my grades be suitable for a career in medicine I wonder? blush.gif

I've NEVER ONCE known you to heed a word I've typed SPARROT!

QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 5 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]489795[/snapback]
Nope. ph34r.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-05 16:13:31
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 5 2008, 04:09 PM) [snapback]489803[/snapback]
Deego at it? Heard he'd pump anything!

Coming from massive booby sooker of the year, that's rich! thumbdown.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 16:15:56
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Aug 5 2008, 04:10 PM) [snapback]489805[/snapback]
Wrong on this one I'm afraid. Consulting yes but using no - that's what the grey matter between the ears is for - thinking for yourself. Otherwise you will find yourself quoting MJ - oh wait a minute you do quote MJ!!

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Wisdom from a man who didn't even attend a proper University! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 16:41:41
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 5 2008, 04:15 PM) [snapback]489809[/snapback]
And why would that be?

Your question young man, is the answer!
mortonjag 2008-08-05 16:49:06
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 5 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]489793[/snapback]
Connected, not part of.
The Belgian fortification system indeed ran aground at Eben Emael, but that's hardly the fault of the French, was it now?
The Maginot line was not breached, the Belgian line of defences was indeed.
You prove nothing Mr Mentaljag except your own conceit and use of notoriously unreliable sources. happy.gif

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Ach, ye done quite well in the wee exams son-don't take it oot on poor Jaggy! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 16:51:08
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 5 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]489807[/snapback]
Didn't stop her

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDThat's a male person!
mortonjag 2008-08-05 16:56:31 Right-just about to leave-definitely 4-0 to us. The Monkey has packed his bananas and his nuts are carefully tucked away, Fing's new nail gun's in the boot just in case it's required, and the Jag is singing a merry choon!

C'MON YE TON!



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mortonjag 2008-08-06 00:20:22
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 5 2008, 08:18 PM) [snapback]489987[/snapback]
I can't wait fot the giant pink font tomorrow, come on Leafy!!!

Not allowed at present Mrs T laugh.gif


QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 5 2008, 09:25 PM) [snapback]490103[/snapback]
so what we're saying this season is we have a solid defence but we can't score...

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First half was a literal walk over. Second half we came off the gas and gave them space especially with all the substitutions, but we were NEVER in danger against a mediocre second division side.

Saturday will be VERY different. Tonight there were several convincing individual displays and I HAVE to add that those who rate Jimbo at over £100,000 should have seen how POOR he was against that lot!

Wakey is a revelation, while Russell and Newby work their baws off and don't lack skill. Huffy did quite a lot of work and got his goal. Masterton was relatively anonymous along with Pantaloons (certainly in terms of any creativity), while Spoonsy yet again showed he's a talented footballer. Shimmin is promising at only 20, and despite the three goals, Cuthbert looks miles ahead of Stewart IMO.

Who's left? Alex Walker-not too bad-not too good at left back-his duffed tackle led to their first goal, but the boy's an attacking midfielder!

Having said all that we have NO shape, and NO creativity from midfield. Still much to be worked on! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-06 00:33:46
QUOTE(bigstu22 @ Aug 5 2008, 09:12 PM) [snapback]490079[/snapback]
Q denotes a rebuilt, radically altered vehicle or kit car



.......or taxi!
mortonjag 2008-08-06 00:36:24
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 5 2008, 11:16 PM) [snapback]490199[/snapback]
have you been short-changed then?

Mortonjag has NEVER been short changed Alistair! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-06 00:38:19
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 6 2008, 12:16 AM) [snapback]490209[/snapback]
We were very good in the first half and ran right over the top of Stranraer. We scored 5 decent goals and conceded a fluky deflection. The back three looked solid (Greacen, Shimmin, Walker), midfield ran things and our strikers made the most of the chances they got.

Second half you can't blame them for taking the foot off the gas a bit. Plus we had a back three of Shimmin McManus and Harding. One new player and two guys who have not played for a while so Stranraer started to dominate a bit. They scored two good goals and you could'nt blame Cuthbert for any of them. The third in particualr was the goal of the game - a dipper from25 yards.

Peter was moved up front presumably to see how he would do with Saturday in mind. He gave a MoM performance in defence but once upfront he was terrible to be honest. If he can't hold the ball up against Stranraer, I don't fancy him to do it against Saints. I think we just need to go with two up and maybe Masterton pushed a bit further forward.

As has been already said, Jim scored a direct hit right through the snack bar hatch. I told him he would have to pay for his Bovril in future!! Fortunately it was funny. It could have been nasty if it had sent boiling water flying, for example.

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mortonjag 2008-08-06 00:43:59
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 5 2008, 11:44 PM) [snapback]490203[/snapback]
A sound and wise choice young man. Don't listen to that nasty Mortonjag!

Puggsy_ton,
Glasgow Caledonian Accounting Graduate 2008 smile.gif

Edit - If you ever need a law book by MacMillan and Lambie I'll sell you it cheaper than the book shop wink.gif

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Mortonjag has merely alluded to the relative illiteracy of Big Booby Sooker of the Year, while commenting than Caledonian is not a proper University!

Port Juniors has produced the occasional competent footballer I'd imagine! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-06 00:48:36
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 5 2008, 05:30 PM) [snapback]489860[/snapback]
I agree, you can practically see her bollocks! ohmy.gif

...and 'she' has no big boobies for young Puggs to sook! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-06 01:00:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 6 2008, 12:52 AM) [snapback]490220[/snapback]
One can take a Bachelor of Photography at an improper university.

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Oh well Newt-when we were boys, a University graduate was perceived to have achieved something of value, but then in those days a University was a University, and there were only four in Scotland!

Nowadays, when somebody says, 'I'm a University graduate', he's probably got a scrap of paper from a two bit Tech, and thinks he's arrived!

Off to bed with the Monkey now! angel.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-06 01:02:28
QUOTE(Mick @ Aug 6 2008, 01:00 AM) [snapback]490222[/snapback]
Horses for courses, MJ.

I believe the course our Puggs attended at Caley will be rated, by those in the know, as being on a par with the course being offered at Strathclyde.
These Universities would offer the best two undergraduate courses on the subject of Accountancy in Glasgow.

Unfortunately the BAcc, presumably offered by a so-called "proper Uni", simply doesn't come up to scratch.

Discuss. 30 Marks.

Good for you!
mortonjag 2008-08-06 12:14:00
QUOTE(ayrstorm @ Aug 6 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]490260[/snapback]
Given Stranraer play in division two this season, I assume this is your next prediction for us all - put money on Stranraer to be relegated at the end of the season wink.gif

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Somebody reads my posts!
mortonjag 2008-08-06 12:19:44
QUOTE(Mick @ Aug 6 2008, 01:22 AM) [snapback]490226[/snapback]
'I believe' was intended to refer to the statement as being accurate..... a statement of fact.
Therefore, since I believe you put your name to that response, you have scored 1 out of 30.

Fail.
Unfortunately, even by Caley standards, that doesn't get you a pass. wink.gif

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Proper Universities concentrate on proper subjects-counting is best learned in Primary School.
mortonjag 2008-08-06 12:22:28
QUOTE(Welling Ton @ Aug 5 2008, 03:18 PM) [snapback]489772[/snapback]
Brians Driving School. I passed 1st time. Let me know if u need the number.

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Bryan has difficulty avoiding Mortonjag's toes!
mortonjag 2008-08-06 12:29:02 My parents always advised me never to buy anything on H.P.! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-06 12:34:23
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 6 2008, 09:27 AM) [snapback]490253[/snapback]
She did acquire some later into her life.

Mind you also by then the amount of steroids she has took means her c**t looks like a c**k!

Her cl1t looks like a cork?
mortonjag 2008-08-06 12:52:05 We have the strongest squad for many a year, and possibly the least creative. We're only two or three signings off a push for promotion, but we NEVER seem capable of getting the correct balance.

Newby, Russell, Wake, and Weatherson are BOUND to score a barrow load of goals among them over this season IF they get enough chances in the box, yet we have persisted with two 'wingers' who IMHO don't fit the current set up, and should have been replaced. Even NOW I'd rather have Andy McLaren (for example) on the right in place of superman, and Jimbo's rusting away on the left, which is a shame.

Midfield-big and strong, and desperate to get rid of the ball at every opportunity while Stevenson's farmed out, and Millar left for a happier place.

It's staring us in the face, but I know I'm about to be told that the Manager always knows best. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-06 13:31:45 Refereeing & Disciplinary
Disciplinary News

GENERAL PURPOSES COMMITTEE

Tuesday, 05 Aug 2008

Dundee United Manager Craig Levein has today been fined £5000 by the General Purposes Committee for comments made following the Rangers v Dundee United match on 10 May 2008.

Mr Levein was found to be in breach of the following Articles of Association:

123 - Bringing the game Into disrepute
126 - Criticising the performance of match officials in such a way as to indicate bias or incompetence.

Full details of all the decisions of the General Purposes Committee will be released once all the Clubs and Individuals have been informed.




How much was faultless Rev. McCurry fined for 'bringing the game into disrepute'?


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mortonjag 2008-08-06 14:14:10 Those days most folk seem to go straight to the computer for entertainment. I enjoy the challenge of crosswords, and it's a good way of developing knowledge and vocabulary.

Scrabble-arguably the best board game ever invented-is it dying out, or do any of you still play?
mortonjag 2008-08-06 15:12:38
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 6 2008, 02:19 PM) [snapback]490315[/snapback]
I'm trying to figure out cryptic crosswords. It's a slow progress which I am sure delights you.

Maybe I should have done a course on it at a proper uni wink.gif

Cryptic crosswords are all about lateral thinking-something relatively foreign to most accountants!

Here's one I've made just for you!


THIS CHARMER LOSES TWO POINTS FOR DRONING! (7) smile.gif




mortonjag 2008-08-06 15:53:13
QUOTE(bigstu22 @ Aug 6 2008, 03:42 PM) [snapback]490332[/snapback]
Passed a Rolls Royce with 'MR SIM' today. Someone linked with mobile phones, I'd imagine. Anyone know?

He's a card!
mortonjag 2008-08-06 16:37:34 PLEASE-let's get this right for once-either a BIGGIE away, or a minnow at home. We need to make some money from the cups this season, instead of the 'distraction from the league' mince that's been talked in the past.
mortonjag 2008-08-06 16:42:17
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 6 2008, 04:02 PM) [snapback]490339[/snapback]
Quite, it would be good if TGFITW see their team out in the next round and humped in the UEFA.

I can dream. happy.gif

Indeed-maybe the Herald could see fit to do even a WEE report on CIS cup matches involving the mighty Ton if it didn't have to pander to OF pressure!

FTOF mightily! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-06 16:49:35
QUOTE(SramTon @ Aug 5 2008, 06:59 PM) [snapback]489897[/snapback]
Had Gray not been and gone before either Thomas or Curran joined?

I don't think McPherson became a real player for us until McCall converted him into a left-back. During the Stark era I would've have said he was signficantly better than McAllister is now.

I think a fit Jenkins could also have given Curran a run for his money.

I'll certainly give you Thomas - much better than anything we have at the moment. I'd say the same also for, at the very least, Maxwell and Fenwick.

So basically we agree (although not for the same reasons tongue.gif )

Hagi couldn't match Jimbo as an all rounder but as a left winger there's just no comparison!

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 5 2008, 07:21 PM) [snapback]489912[/snapback]
Two very good signings in Shimmi and Cuthbert. I'm really pleased with the squad now.

I would expect Cuthbert to claim the first choice keeper position, but Stewart should be given a chance to show he is worthy of the place.

Shimmi has to be a first choice player with a CV like that. And we wouldn't sign McManus to sit on the bench with his experience. So the central defence will be Shimmi, McManus....?? Real competition in there now with Greacen and Harding fighting for a place as well which is fantastic.

Midfield looks strong, and I would expect it to get stronger once Jenkins comes back.

Peter's best chance of a game would be if he moved forward as a striker. And again good competition for places up there too.

I'm exited again !! thumbup2.gif

I'm pleased with the signings-not with the squad-we still need two or three key positions filled.
mortonjag 2008-08-06 16:53:45
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Aug 6 2008, 04:44 PM) [snapback]490359[/snapback]
cant beat a good old fashioned game of monopoly or poker

True, and talking of counting games, is little Puggs still trying to work out the cryptic clue I set him. Perhaps someone can help him! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-06 19:35:11
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Aug 6 2008, 06:25 PM) [snapback]490396[/snapback]
It really captures the character of the surrounding area as I am sure you will all agree.



I was thinking of the



HIVE


Full of infected 'B's
mortonjag 2008-08-06 19:41:52
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 6 2008, 10:48 AM) [snapback]490262[/snapback]
Just glad Fatima Whitbread has retired

Indeed-poor little Puggs would be drooling all over his hairy sporran!
mortonjag 2008-08-06 19:43:58
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Aug 6 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]490397[/snapback]
They were back for a limited time only. Now they're back for good. smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-06 19:52:30
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 6 2008, 07:02 PM) [snapback]490401[/snapback]
At which 'proper' university did Mortonjag develop his conceit and ignorance?
Is that a proper subject? ohmy.gif

Mortonjag has three degrees from a better one than you're about to attend SPARROT!

Now this word conceit:

con·ceit
–noun
1. an excessively favorable opinion of one's own ability, importance, wit, etc.

I'd say that describes our little SPARROT to a 'T'.


One does not normally 'develop' ignorance-it's usually there to be rectified as clearly is yours of examination technique. I'd happily have tutored you if you hadn't given the impression of invincibility!

Cheer up-we''ll maybe win this Saturday. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-06 19:58:38
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 6 2008, 07:19 PM) [snapback]490407[/snapback]
Keeping up with the daily Sudoku puzzles do me nicely.

I flatly refuse to start Sudoku for two reasons

1/ I'm brilliant with numbers


2/ I believe it's both addictive and non educational!

QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 6 2008, 07:50 PM) [snapback]490429[/snapback]
Chanter?


Excellent-good guess, or worked it out?
mortonjag 2008-08-06 20:09:35
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 6 2008, 07:43 PM) [snapback]490423[/snapback]
I am rather disturbed that you're looking at / searching pictures of Naked Guys before women unsure.gif

Newt's just a bit bored with his harem full of bronzed beauties!
mortonjag 2008-08-06 20:13:55
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 6 2008, 07:54 PM) [snapback]490435[/snapback]
I heard the same as they've now agreed to call the Station.

LSD Central.
With a board underneath it saying....

Alight Here For Methadome.

Apparently there's a wee booth at the new station where you can buy your coke for the match.
mortonjag 2008-08-06 20:20:33
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Aug 6 2008, 08:10 PM) [snapback]490444[/snapback]
sorry but thats crap

we dont play 4-5-1 and we at least try to entertain (under Irons so far)

even brazil are big and strong these days

nothing wrong with it

I'd suggest that that's a somewhat contentious point-I was often entertained by Gowsa, Midge, and even Jamie (mainly when elsewhere!). I found Andy McLaren entertaining. Where are the entertainers in the current squad (I concede we have a couple of putative clowns)?

What I've seen so far this season would hardly set a neutral's pulse racing. I've been listening to the girns and groans about Walter Smith, and I believe Port Ton has a valid point.
mortonjag 2008-08-06 20:31:32
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Aug 6 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]490446[/snapback]
Only ever attended the University of Life. How high up the pecking order does that fare?

It is the only truly proper university, as some of the cheeky young brats on this pubic massage board would do well to acknowledge. There is NO substitute for experience allied to a willingness to learn from others.

The truth is that for a huge number of youngsters 'Uni' is just a bloody cop out for one or another reason. How the hell does any 17 year old know what he wants to be 'when he grows up'?

If I could do it all again, I wouldn't touch a University with a bloody bargepole-I mean that MOST sincerely, and I know many graduates of my generation who secretly feel exactly the same way.

SO-when Mortonjag talks about PROPER Universities, it's got f*ck all to do with Mortonjag being arrogant-it's a swipe at the jumped up arrogance of semi intelligent young prats who think they're more important than Joe Public because they attend/ed a 'University! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-06 20:35:57 I've never seen a ghostie, but Port-ton and Deego give me the 'Willies'.
mortonjag 2008-08-06 20:39:19 The Lavvybowl.
mortonjag 2008-08-06 20:49:19
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Aug 6 2008, 08:27 PM) [snapback]490461[/snapback]
Wakey Wakey Morton Jag

in all seriousness, I mean as a team... look at iron's formation for starters

there are very few real "entertainers" left in the modern game, even at the top level

Wakey's worth the money-I give you that, and if you're into comedy so is Superkev-the farce freaks would do well to better a look at Jimbo trying to be a left winger. As for the rest-there's not an entertainer among them (though Big Stu's antics have frequently brought tears to my eyes).

OK-I'm piss takin' a little, but PLEASE don't tell me we're entertaining!
mortonjag 2008-08-06 20:51:52 The Barfanon.
mortonjag 2008-08-06 21:00:51
QUOTE(centralTON @ Aug 6 2008, 08:41 PM) [snapback]490473[/snapback]
You can keep your "proper or improper" uni's.

Advanced City and Guilds in Plumbing at Falkirk Tech an' there's Feck all wrong wi' me, ah think? laugh.gif

I can't stand folk who boast about their City and Guilds qualifications. They couldn't even make it into some jumped up Tech masquerading as a 'University'.

Oh and effin Plumbers-every plumber I've ever met was as bent as a warped lavvy pan, and their hands always smell of keech.
mortonjag 2008-08-06 21:03:15
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Aug 6 2008, 05:42 PM) [snapback]490383[/snapback]
mortonjag backing down again laugh.gif

WTF are YOU wittering about? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-06 21:06:42
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Aug 6 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]490504[/snapback]
Isn't that a contradiction?

I am sorry but I disagree again

I do not think Walter Smith sends them out with the mindset of entertaining - he sends them out to win ugly (which even Barry Ferguson admitted about Jan last season as their goal)

David Irons sends the guys out with fire in their bellies

That'll explain a couple of the midrift bulges!
mortonjag 2008-08-06 21:11:00
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 6 2008, 09:04 PM) [snapback]490507[/snapback]
Oh and FYI...I had the grades to go to a 'proper' university. As long as we are assuming you mean Glasgow here smile.gif

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Is there no end to your boastfulness young man?
You'd NEVER have got into a proper University to study a proper discipline-good gracious, you've confessed yourself that you are semi-literate! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-06 22:23:04
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Aug 6 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]490519[/snapback]
Give it a rest MJ. Although it may not be a 'proper' university it is still a great accomplishment. A difficult one at that. So congrats puggsy.


Give WHAT a rest? rolleyes.gif
QUOTE(centralTON @ Aug 6 2008, 09:27 PM) [snapback]490526[/snapback]
Hey you, I meant that as a wee joke....hence the laugh.gif

Keech............ma arse.

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QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 6 2008, 09:41 PM) [snapback]490542[/snapback]
I had the grades chief wink.gif I chose Caley. I basically didn't go to Glasgow because of the snobbery that seems to surround it. The people I met in my 4 years at the Tech are now some of my best friends and at the end I am happy enough to come out with that, although the degree is a nice bonus



Edit - Being able to spell and use correct grammar aren't as important it seems these days...word processors are the way forward sir biggrin.gif

Defensive to the last! laugh.gif

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 6 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]490565[/snapback]
Again you make the error of presenting your opinion as fact.
Examination technique: 7 Higher A's out of 7 Highers leads me to think you're being somewhat facetious there Mr Jag. laugh.gif
Although I wouldn't go to Caley for my chosen course, I see no reason why it isn't fit and proper for accountancy, or does it require snobbery worthy of a grammar school in order to qualify? rolleyes.gif

What happened this time young man-7 A Highers smacks of swattery-nothing more. In my experience those types generally did relatively poorly when they were forced to think!

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 6 2008, 10:12 PM) [snapback]490590[/snapback]
Caley has a very respected business school. And at the end of the day accountancy - for the most part - is prescribed by following company law and rules set by the accounting bodies so you can really only get taught the same things at the institutions as they follow the professional bodies.

In fact for CIPFA Caley gets more professional exam exemptions than both Glasgow and Strathclyde smile.gif

I have never suggested that 'Caley' isn't good at some things, though everybody knows it's not a proper University! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-06 22:30:38
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Aug 6 2008, 09:14 PM) [snapback]490516[/snapback]
Would rather play ugly and win than play entertainingly and lose. This season is about keeping status in the first division. Other than that it will be a few years if not next year before we can dream of entertaining football.

I would hate to see us playing attractive football and being relegated. If playing ugly gets us to the SPL I'm up for that, but quite simply it won't, and I'd rather end up 'safe' playing entertaining football than third top playing 'grind it out' AND we'd probably bring in more cash.
mortonjag 2008-08-06 22:35:47

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 6 2008, 09:45 PM) [snapback]490550[/snapback]
I think we have enough defensive cover now and wouldn't pursue either Reid or Smith.

We have no full backs.

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 6 2008, 09:47 PM) [snapback]490556[/snapback]
To be honest, I'm happy with the squad we have just now. If we can get rid of the trio mentioned, I would like to see a wide player brought in to give competition to Finlayson and McAllister.

I wish we'd get shot of those two for whatever cash we can rake in. They are no longer required in midfield, and they're NOT wingers.

Last night against very poor opposition indeed, Jimbo proved that the price tag some seem to place on him is utterly ludicrous.
mortonjag 2008-08-06 22:38:54 Why is it always black or white with 75% of posters. I'd happily have kept young Graham at Scapa-he's a damned sight better than some think.
mortonjag 2008-08-06 22:45:02
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 6 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]490581[/snapback]
Yes, but not Jill Dando, beyond resonable doubt, under appeal.
I'm not saying he'd be a drinking buddy or anything but there is at least a major degree of dubiety over the original verdict, which has shown itself in the appeal.
Under the Scottish system it would surely have been a 'Not Proven@ - there are cases that need decisive evidence to be solved and this trial did not clearly have it: the prosecution fudged their case.

Well he wouldn't would he-you're too young to go drinking, and despite those wonderful 'A' highers, you clearly have failed to grasp the use of the singular verb after a singular noun!
mortonjag 2008-08-06 22:47:41
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Aug 6 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]490517[/snapback]
You may have something there...I've woken up once or twice with my bellend firmly cemented to my scants! Surely investing £100,000?

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It's probably already been patented by some w*nker!
mortonjag 2008-08-06 22:51:45
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Aug 6 2008, 10:45 PM) [snapback]490622[/snapback]
Me and my mate and the two lassies we were seeing at the time set up the Ouija board one night.We were about 17 and had had a couple of cans before we started.A question or two was asked and then the glass started moving.Now my mate was a bit of a wind-up so I assumed it was him which he denied and took his finger off the glass and it was still moving.So now I knew one of the lassies was at it cos it wisnae me!So I took my finger off to expose them as the pranksters and the glass kept moving....only now I noticed it was actually floating about 1/4 of an inch above the board.When I pointed this out the lassies pulled their fingers off pronto!And the glass kept moving....I was there!

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


.....and kept moving and filled itself full of more lager? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-06 22:57:39
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 6 2008, 10:39 PM) [snapback]490611[/snapback]
We don't need full backs if we stick to a 3-5-2: its an oversight but it is an acceptable one.
Walker, McGuffie or Shimmin are capable of slotting into those roles if needed.
We need at least one wide player; not a winger as such as it wouldn't be their role but certainly could do with more quality and competition in that area.

Not like you to make the mistake of presenting a 17 year old opinion as 'fact' sonny boy!

If compromise is inevitable-fine. It need not have been-the squad is still unbalanced in my extremely humble arse licking and grovelling opinion, if I may be permitted so to suggest! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-07 08:27:22
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Aug 6 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]490347[/snapback]
Referees are s***e. Dont know how many good games were ruined by incompetant fools such as McCurry.



Not according to Gordon Smith


"I think they realise, that, if the money goes up, the fans will be expecting perfection. That's not always going to be the case, but you hope your top referees can do it. I think the refereeing standards are very good. There will always be mistakes, but you just have to deal with that."



Yes, we KNOW Mr Smith, and your best of the very best is none other than the famous cheat and liar-CRAIG THOMSON.

Money certainly talks Mr. Smith-looks like your £160,000 p.a. salary has been persuasive! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-07 08:32:53
QUOTE(ton1901 @ Aug 6 2008, 11:04 PM) [snapback]490651[/snapback]
gretna got promoted to the spl through ugly football. something irons was apart of and knows how it was done. i think asking of entertaining winning football of him is to much but.
hamilton werent much better to watch last year with their 4-5-1. i think the key to this league is just to be hard to beat and scrap through games and i think thats the way it mite be this seaason for us.

Did they indeed-and how many times did you watch them that season. Any time they played us they were pretty direct and attacking.
mortonjag 2008-08-07 08:43:13 It's now several weeks since the Trust's letter was purportedly received by Mr Donald. There hasn't been a whisper about it since and Mortonjag has been very patient. Perhaps the Trust members have all received individual replies which are proudly framed with pride of place on their mantelpieces.

More probably Alistair's 'Out of the Country' again, though I got a little smile from him at the Midden game.

Maybe he's one of those ultra cautious men who takes for ever to reach decisions, and always checks three times that the door on his semi's locked, before driving off to Lidl's in the Smart Car. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-07 08:51:46
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 6 2008, 11:00 PM) [snapback]490645[/snapback]
Only suggest it as your opinion, rather than portraying it as fact.
You may continue. blush.gif

let's BOTH do it then! blink.gif



QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 6 2008, 11:42 PM) [snapback]490688[/snapback]
I'd say that Jim is a winger. He is always running at people and skipping past them. If he were played on the right he'd also be able to get to the byline and get crosses in using his stronger foot rather than cut inside or try to cross with his much weaker left foot.

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Jim is arguably the WORST left winger I've ever seen at Cappielow. I agree he MIGHT make a successful right winger, and am mystified as to why successive managers haven't tried him there. He was crap on Tuesday.

Finlayson is now completely redundant IMO.

QUOTE(El gofer @ Aug 7 2008, 12:35 AM) [snapback]490717[/snapback]
MJ, do you not think that we are playing with quite a bit of width at the moment?
Playing 3-4-3, we have jim and kev aswell as russell and newby who seemed to operated off wake on saturday.
Mores the point we played with 3 forwards, the two aforementioned played the channels which is something akin to the oldfashioned inside forward.
If the job of a winger is to supply crosses by getting round the back I think the formation allows for this.

I wasnt there last night but assume it was Mcguffie wide midfield. In that case he would allow the inside left to operate the flank.
I think we have options, but would prefer us to sign Reid as he offers us cover at least in the wingback position.

When many teams play 4-4-2, they do so with wide mids playing narrow and an advanced centre mid.

I am just trying to point out that wingers is something that Irons is prob/poss aware that he is not buying due to the formations he has us set up to play.

I think it's ironic that Newby and Russell have to double as our wingers (and they have some success in that respect), when we could get shot of the two I mentioned, get two proper wingers, and hey presto-we'd be dropping crosses on three receptive nappers all day long! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-07 08:56:48
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 7 2008, 12:24 AM) [snapback]490708[/snapback]
I'm not so sure he is which is why I'll keep shouting to get him back!

Celtic played him in all their pre-season games last season too, no doubt with the intention of flogging him. ph34r.gif

You'd like to birch Spoonsy's big pink bum! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-07 09:01:43
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 6 2008, 10:49 PM) [snapback]490628[/snapback]
Now if I was being picky I'd point to your failure to space your dashes adequately: a basic error not worthy of a supposed professional.
I wouldn't do that though, would I?

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In future I'll ensure my dashes IS spaced properly son!
mortonjag 2008-08-07 09:13:17
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 6 2008, 10:45 PM) [snapback]490620[/snapback]
'Swattery' indeed: that's another 2 this year and the other grades will be subject to appeal.
In trying to portray those results as some kind of epic failure I'm afraid you, yourself, have failed.

In attempting to second guess my intention son YOU prove you're very wet behind the ears. You have done well-there is no question about that. I am merely quoting my experience when I tell you that University is a great 'leveller'. Pupils who have been spoonfed by indulgent teachers suddenly become students who have to do much thinking for themselves, and I can state categorically that success in Highers and Sixth Year studies often bears no relation to subsequent progress. That is ALL.

Well, almost all! I'd like to add that in my day, when we had PROPER education, appeals were unheard of. We could 'take it on the chin' unlike modern namby pamby greetin' faces who can't cut exam pressure! smile.gif

QUOTE(El gofer @ Aug 7 2008, 12:53 AM) [snapback]490723[/snapback]
Happily admit that I graduated from the tech.

4 happiest years of my life. I had a great time.

I take from it the experiences and the people that I met that formed opinions.

One is my bestest fwend who goes to scappa with me.

I keep in contact with a few others, one a had a blazing argument about politics religion and football with the last time I was out for a beer with him.... we just laughed at the end of it.

Nowadays, degrees are a means of getting certain jobs, hence the number of unis or techs. I reckon if the education act had been brought in prior to the one in the early 40s I reckon there woudv been more unis earlier.

I dont think there is the same prestige attached to unis like glasgow anymore as a result of the quality of courses that other places are providng.



I agree about the prestige thing-if Pishley Uni started a new Medical Faculty this year I'd advise all budding Docs to go there, if only for the quality of the local people. happy.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-07 09:18:27
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 7 2008, 12:35 AM) [snapback]490715[/snapback]
although the chanter is used for playing the melody, not for droning smartass.gif

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Yes, Yes Alistair, and the melodic charmer loses two points for droning! Did I miss something? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-07 09:25:58
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Aug 6 2008, 11:21 PM) [snapback]490667[/snapback]
Well there's no shortage of test candidates on here!

True!

On the basis that you 'empty yer baws' after every w**k (not physiologically true, but serves this purpose), I'm wondering which of our hallowed posters would produce the biggest semen splurge in a 'count the tadpole' competition.


If boasting's anything to go on we have many pretenders, and I'll start off by nominating Bob the Masturbater...erstwhile LargsTON!
mortonjag 2008-08-07 09:28:23
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 6 2008, 11:41 PM) [snapback]490686[/snapback]
So does that make them PorterDeegeists blush.gif

Nope-just a pair of greedy wee rent boys.
mortonjag 2008-08-07 09:50:38
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 7 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]490762[/snapback]
I think we have as many good players at the club as we have had for a long time. Whether that makes it the best squad we have had is another question. Personally, I think the squad is a bit unbalanced as

1) We have a preponderance of defenders, most of them good defenders. We have Weatherson Shimmin McManus Greacen Harding and Walker plus maybe McGregor all looking for one of three slots. McGuffie can also play well at the back.

2) We have a decent midfield but are maybe a bit lacking in cover for injuries etc. If we are going for a 3-4-3 lineup we have Paartalu Masterton McGuffie Finlayson McAllister and Jenkins when fit. With Jenkins presently out, one more injury and we are down to the bare bones. We also I suppose have McAnespie who could be our wide left player if Irons can get him to knuckle down. I'm less worried about creativity than others on here as we have created plenty of chances in all our pre season and competitive games so far. We need to worry more about the forwards' conversion rates.

3) We have no cover at all for our front three. Having watched Weatherson have a go up front in the second half at Stranraer, he's no longer the answer there (if he ever was?) although he was MoM as a defender for the first half in that game. Wake's out on Saturday and thats a problem - we have no target/hold up man. We also know that Newby might be a bit injury prone - he only managed 15 games for Morecambe last season. Having said that, Russell Wake and Newby are the most dangerous forwards we've had for ages and if they stay fit I can see them getting 35/40 goals between them.

So, for me, we have the best players we've had for a while but a squad thats unfinished. Its light in numbers in certain areas and over supplied in others. For this reason, I would not be unhappy not to sign Reid and Smith and if we are getting one more player, would prefer another striker.

I disagree fundamentally on the midfield/goalscorer issue. We have PLENTY of cover in midfield (you omitted Walker for example, and Shimmin can play there too).

It's just common sense that among them Newby, Russell, Spoonsy, and Wakey will get plenty of goals IF the supply's there. We need a cultured playmaker in midfield (Jenkins may serve as that but he's never a Gowsa) and we desperately need guys who can consistently put decent crosses over. Weatherson will come good again-mark my words.
mortonjag 2008-08-07 10:37:11
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Aug 7 2008, 09:58 AM) [snapback]490772[/snapback]
Jim McAllister is no where near the worst left winger u have ever seen at Cappielow. Thats just a silly statement!!

Newby & Russell do not double as wingers, they make Forward runs out wide to create space. There is a difference.

When would u ever be satisfied MJ? U see fault with just about everything to do with Morton!! ohmy.gif sad.gif

I am talking about LEFT WINGERS! Jimbo is a dreadful left winger who can't beat his man to get to the corner flag, or on the rare occasions he does, can't use his left (for standing on) foot to get a cross over. He's a young lad who's showed lots of promise and has IMO been wasted at Cappielow.

Newby and Russell consistently drift out to the wings -normally Russell goes right and Newby left-and they DO put over decent crosses-CLEARLY doubling as wingers in that respect. If your going to be so bloody scientific about your definition of a winger, your comments about Jimbo are -shall we say-just a silly statement.

Finally, I see fault with a lot at Morton, and I also see some good things-David Irons has made a huge difference, for example.

When will I ever be satisfied? Probably never! Is that some kind of mortal sin? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-07 11:11:03
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Aug 7 2008, 10:40 AM) [snapback]490790[/snapback]
guys we shouldn't care if newby and russell double as a pseudo wingers, as long as we keep getting results

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mortonjag 2008-08-07 11:15:11
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 7 2008, 09:49 AM) [snapback]490766[/snapback]
"Pittodrie" means "Hill of Dung". Pity Aberdeen thought of it first...

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The Maggotry.
mortonjag 2008-08-07 11:19:26
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 7 2008, 09:22 AM) [snapback]490758[/snapback]
Oh and I don't know or care smile.gif

How many letters?
mortonjag 2008-08-07 11:22:07
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Aug 6 2008, 11:52 PM) [snapback]490692[/snapback]
I wonder if Mortonjag will post any of his anti-chair rants in the same format...pure kwality indeed!

What are you gibbering about? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-07 11:27:50
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Aug 6 2008, 11:24 PM) [snapback]490670[/snapback]
Anyone tried and tested the following:

Start with an amount on a colour, if it comes up, place same amount on other colour, if it does not come up, double the stake on the original. If this comes up, go back to your original stake on the other colour, if not keep doubling up until it come in then back to original on other colour.
Have you made any money or is this frowned upon in casino's?

If you've enough cash and are willing to quit when you're up you can always walk away from the computer roulette with a profit.
mortonjag 2008-08-07 11:31:13
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Aug 7 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]490781[/snapback]
Anyone remember Cabana's ? Bring them back
Also Fry's Five Centre's blush.gif

I loved them both and does anybody remember Duncan's Orange Cream (like Fry's Creme)-bitter chocolate and tangy orange fondant filling. Duncans also made Creme Eggs for 3d when the Cadbury version was 6d. They came in two halves and were quite hard as distinct from the squishy Cadbury filling.
mortonjag 2008-08-07 11:42:55
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 7 2008, 09:24 AM) [snapback]490759[/snapback]
There is no University of Paisley huh.gif

Call it what you will-the Bell College bolt on if you like! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(leyTON @ Aug 7 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]490786[/snapback]
forgive my ignorance - why is VT called sparrot?
MJ - like puggs i had the grades to go to glasgow but chose strathclyde instead as i found it not only a better standard of lecturer(the English dept at glasgow were wired to the moon) but there were considerably less snobs. even though it did look like hogwarts
your right also puggs - the University of WEst of scotland goes strong, i walk past it everyday, and i also walk past signs for Reid Kerr College. Vintage soapdodger education

Sparrot (a cross between a sponge and a parrot)! laugh.gif


To be completely honest I wasn't aware of much 'snobbery' about Glasgow University! My younger son chose Strathclyde because it had a more forward looking Law School, while my daughter also chose Strathclyde for its excellent Business School. Strathclyde has had half a century to evolve into a pretty proper University but that can ONLY happen with time. Caley has SOME good faculties, but in general terms remains improper, as anybody who's 'in the know' will tell you! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Aug 7 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]490791[/snapback]
Why didn't you go, just out of interest? The standard of teaching of Accountancy at Glasgow and Strathclyde is regarded as far better than other universities in Scotland and that may give you an edge if there isn't much between you and somebody else going for the same job.



QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 7 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]490795[/snapback]
I just didn't really like the feel of the places. May sound like a cop out but I felt very comfortable at Caley and I am still glad I made that choice.

Cracking place that gets unfairly slagged by the 'proper' uni's smile.gif

As I stated already, it gets very fairly slagged as it's still miles behind proper Universities. It HAS developed two or three good faculties, and will undoubtedly improve.
mortonjag 2008-08-07 11:48:12
QUOTE(mccaff @ Aug 7 2008, 11:36 AM) [snapback]490815[/snapback]
i was thinking about the "lack of creativity" today and it hit me. whyy wud u need a creative midfield player if ur just going to launch the ball up to the big man up front. i think irons' plan is just to be hard to break down with 3 centre backs and 4 midfielders covering and then as soon as we get the ball, feed it high and forward for wake to win and russel and newby to get on the end of it.

Indeed, and what's plan B?
mortonjag 2008-08-07 11:50:42
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 7 2008, 11:42 AM) [snapback]490819[/snapback]
You don't like sitting down!?

How many letters?
mortonjag 2008-08-07 11:55:05
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Aug 7 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]490813[/snapback]
Now theres something I thought I would never read - Mortonjag sooks Dougies plooms...

Mr Rae's plooms make an excellent and good value sook. I once bought his liquorice allsorts which were of somewhat inferior quality and far too sugary. Fudgy Wudgys are good value for those who enjoy a little bit of fudge. I have sampled none of his other offerings.
mortonjag 2008-08-07 11:58:35
QUOTE(forza ton @ Aug 7 2008, 09:57 AM) [snapback]490771[/snapback]
ghosts are a pile of s***e. if i seen one i'd speak to a psychiatrist because there would obviously be something not right in my head.

Just go with a biscuit barrell over your tadger and he'll say you're f*ckin' crackers.
mortonjag 2008-08-07 12:01:54
QUOTE(mccaff @ Aug 7 2008, 11:51 AM) [snapback]490822[/snapback]
stevie masterton

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mortonjag 2008-08-07 12:57:52 If thats the attitude your taking, then we could probably ask you the same thing on half of your opinions. Il bet that a lot of the things you have a party line on, you would only have experienced through your google box ya tadger. Its not difficult to know what style of football a team plays without seeing them every week, just read papers, match reports, websites etc.[/quote]



How many tadgers are you speaking for?

It's not my 'attitude'- it's a legitimate question. Any time Gretna played us they certainly did not play ugly IMO!

Oh and explain your 'party line' comment if you can. I take plenty of criticism from brighter sparks than yourself for my outspoken opinions, and I certainly DON'T go with the flow as 75% of posters appear to do! smile.gif

I suspect your reply will again be abusive.
mortonjag 2008-08-07 13:09:03
QUOTE(El gofer @ Aug 7 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]490828[/snapback]
MJ I dont see the preoccupation with the term wingers.

Not many teams use them, I may be wrong.

My idea of wingers, the way I was brought up to play when I was a nipper was 433. Two wingers of a front 3.

Our formation is different to that. Jim and Kev play were they do as they have the engine to get up and down, something that both of them do well. They are not wingers in this formation. Playing 3 up means we play more balls into channels as irvineton alluded to.

I'm only interested in the wings being used to advantage, ESPECIALLY as we now have a potentially potent strike force.

This has not been done for ages, and the two 'wingers' (or whatever you choose to call your little steam engines) are now redundant, IMO, given our plentiful supply of strong midfielders.

I'm not saying they are worthless-if the squad was to be bigger I'd happily retain their services.

I'm also a bit fed up with the oft repeated nonsense that there are no 'wingers' in the modern game.
mortonjag 2008-08-07 13:15:09
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Aug 7 2008, 12:17 PM) [snapback]490831[/snapback]
I did Risk and Law at Undergraduate at Caley and the Uni is the only one in the UK that offers a degree in Risk. In all years there are prizes from major FTSE and other global brands. The Law School offers modules that would make law students more employable, I understand that the Glasgow School of Law (of where I am now a student) allows students from the 3 Glasgow Universities to swap modules to each Uni.

I agree that some of the degrees at Caley do raise eyebrows (Fashion Management and Interior Design) but I had a cracking time and still catch up with my lecturers and mates to this day.---plus Caley always had the hottest ladies!

Blondes?

QUOTE(El gofer @ Aug 7 2008, 12:23 PM) [snapback]490836[/snapback]
Oh yes LAS I concur with your last point. Glasgow was full of freaks!!!!

My big sis did the same course as you and started when it was the tech. It was an extremely difficult course to get into. She is doing alright for herself now from graduating from the tech.

So your still a student?!!

Not fancy working then eh???!!
Could you help me with managing the risk to my limbs when playing fives against LeyTON or even you?!!

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mortonjag 2008-08-07 13:18:27
QUOTE(bigstu22 @ Aug 7 2008, 12:29 PM) [snapback]490837[/snapback]
Starting price is actually lower than I paid direct from DVLA. I may be wrong, but I think if the plate is one that is of interest to others then it generally can sell on for considerably more than the original DVLA price. I'm not desperate to sell-if I don't get the £450 I'll just keep it.

Good point re Middlesborough and Milwall-I'd kind of rather it went to a 'ton supporter though-espeacially as it has the 'G' at the start for GMFC. But, hey, if I get a lot more from down south then I'm afraid sentiment goes out the window!!

The market is totally saturated with Mickey Mouse plates. Unless you've something almost unique, or just happen to strike it lucky (somebody fancies your number for whatever reason) it's a buyers game at the moment.
mortonjag 2008-08-07 13:22:28
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 7 2008, 12:55 PM) [snapback]490842[/snapback]
Wrong thread wink.gif

It seems quite cryptic.
mortonjag 2008-08-07 13:25:32
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 7 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]490849[/snapback]
They were called Treets, not Treats. I think originally they were just all-chocolate but later on they brought out peanut Treets as well.

Does anyone remember Fry's Five Boys - I thought it was a single flavour version of Five Centres, a bit like Fry's Chocolate Cream (and maybe a predecessor of it) which has pictures of 5 faces onthe wrapper with different expressions - this link takes you to an old advert for it although it was a bit more modern looking by the 50s and 60s.

http://www.advertisingantiques.co.uk/Defau...amp;ItemID=3837
Says it was just chocolate but I remember it as having a white cream filling - maybe my memory is playing tricks and I'm confusing it with Fry's Chocolate Cream.

'Five Boys' was just a chocolate bar with a different boy's face on each section-each face represented an emotion!
mortonjag 2008-08-07 13:29:01
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 7 2008, 12:58 PM) [snapback]490845[/snapback]
The Sans Soap

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San Syringe!
mortonjag 2008-08-07 13:36:57
QUOTE(El gofer @ Aug 7 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]490861[/snapback]
Fair enough. I am not saying I dont like seeing wingers. I reckon a good wide player is one of the most entertaining parts of the game....... your word entertain there...it will never catch on.....

What I am saying is that I can see the merits in the formation Irons is deploying.

For what its worth I think 4-5-1 being utilised properly allows for wingers. It seems that no one told Uncle Watty though!!!

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I'm just old fashioned. Folk nowadays are obsessed with 'formations' and 'game plans'.

I like to enjoy my football-spoilt by the Hal Stewart era I guess, but when you have decent strikers, and a competent winger wide player wing back footballer gets past his man to the corner flag, everybody's on his toes, waiting for the decent cross and hopefully BINGO!

Much more attractive than Wakey being punted long ball after long ball!
mortonjag 2008-08-07 13:48:44
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 7 2008, 01:31 PM) [snapback]490864[/snapback]
clicky.

Maybe Eck and Nickerless should have a word with this guy.

He certainly appears to be a very savoury gentleman. We have many gentlemen in this neck of the woods who fit Councillor Kalashnikov's description, though most are happy with our local Universities.

Nice to see an S.N.P. cooncillor sending his daughter to Cambridge!!! Spurtle will be impressed.

I particularly liked this bit!

The family say they are being forced to sell their luxury home in Newton Mearns because they can't afford to pay the bills.
Mr Hanif rakes in thousands of pounds from dozens of flats he owns in Glasgow and overseas.



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mortonjag 2008-08-07 19:06:45
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 7 2008, 01:58 PM) [snapback]490888[/snapback]
So's yir face happy.gif

...is that an anagram?
mortonjag 2008-08-07 19:36:33
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 7 2008, 05:32 PM) [snapback]490991[/snapback]
Well we shall see when the brakdown of the results is found whether your accusation was correct or not, shall we?
Or will you just blindly guess when you clearly don't have a clue how the exam grade is determined?

Is this 'brakdown' thing a new technique to replace the markers, SPARROT?

You've had to appeal because you have not come up to the standard you and your teachers (note that word-NOT lecturers) expected of you.

Are YOU accusing the marker of doing a Craig Thomson?

Watch you don't trip over your petted lip if your appeal fails!

Why do you always accuse me of 'not having a clue', sonny boy? My bloody family is HEAVING with teachers-two of whom have been marking Highers papers for years.

I know all about what goes on at markers meetings-how the 'red line' is raised and lowered from one year to another for a variety of reasons (not always educational IMHO), and FULLY appreciate that good pupils (not students-NOTE) often 'blow it' under exam pressure. One of my brothers was Deputy Director of Education, and is now an Education Consultant at the Scottish Office.

I could go on my little chap! Suffice to say that making blind guesses on this pubic massage board is not Mortonjag's style. For one reason or another you blew it-don't fret-it happens to the best of us-even Lewis Hamilton.


Good luck with the appeal court. smile.gif

Oh, and better luck at University where you'll no longer be mollycoddled, or encouraged to believe you're something special! laugh.gif

Probably for the first time ever you will be forced to think completely independently. You will hopefully adapt well to the transformation from 'golden boy' to tadpole in the Pacific! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-07 19:49:04
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 7 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]490890[/snapback]
Another tribune of the people who doesn't trust the education dept of GCC to educate his weans and so gets a hoose in the mearns. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 7 2008, 02:10 PM) [snapback]490893[/snapback]
I wonder if Monsieur Trois Maisons dreams of matching his property empire? laugh.gif
Only kidding CHC, I'm sure you're a responsible, caring and sharing private landlord.

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QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 7 2008, 05:29 PM) [snapback]490988[/snapback]
The SNP do seem to be incautiously fond of enterprising types that are all for keeping Scotland 'Open for Business'. Just what kind of business I wonder.

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QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 7 2008, 05:36 PM) [snapback]490994[/snapback]
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Sarcasm, manners and decency indeed. And perhaps even you aren't too old to understand the English language. Scumbag parasite? I have called you no such thing.

In my experience Mr Edwards, you always put the truth in a genteel manner.

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 7 2008, 05:54 PM) [snapback]491005[/snapback]
The SNP are not at fault here. I see he has been suspended by the Party which was the correct thing to do.


Too late my friend-the damage has been done!
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 7 2008, 06:28 PM) [snapback]491019[/snapback]
If the story is true, he should be expelled from the SNP. Innocent until proved guilty of course, and I am aware that the press try hard to dig up dirt on anyone with SNP leanings, but this guy sounds like a liability who should be punted pronto. As I am sure will happen.


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QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 7 2008, 07:28 PM) [snapback]491044[/snapback]
Perhaps when Nicola Strurgeon fulfils her promise to visit the area in question and witness these appalling conditions first hand the Scottish Government and Glasgow City Council may be spurred into appropriate action.

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mortonjag 2008-08-07 19:54:04
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 7 2008, 05:34 PM) [snapback]490993[/snapback]
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I had a similar discussion with a colleague a few years ago who was convinced that in that particular week the lottery numbers would be low because the previous week they were all high. rolleyes.gif

Does your box in trying to convince people who can't understand basic logic that they're talking pish, doesn't it. smile.gif

Nope my friend-it happens to me regularly on this wee massage board-water off a duck's back! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-07 20:00:42
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 7 2008, 06:59 PM) [snapback]491035[/snapback]
yes, you missed having a second (less cryptic) definition in your clue tongue.gif

how about:

charmer loses two points for passing wind? (7)

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mortonjag 2008-08-07 20:34:48
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 7 2008, 07:43 PM) [snapback]491052[/snapback]
As it's Advanced Highers and not Highers, I'm afraid your entire (and rather tedious) speel has been rendered void.
No award.
You do, however, retain the right to appeal.
Although the teachers always did expect Mortonjag to fail...

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Dream on!
mortonjag 2008-08-07 21:19:08
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 7 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]491102[/snapback]
I put my opinions on here Mentaljag, that's all. Opinions don't always represent truth, and truth is seldom genteel (in my opinion). cool.gif

Mortonjag's opinions are genteel and always represent the truth-FACT! angel.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-07 21:34:21
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 7 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]491072[/snapback]
So, on the eve of The Olympic Games, does anyone really care? Is anyone interested in athletics, swimming, beach volleyball, etc?
And do we care about China? Do we care the games were given to them? Article in The Independent today about the country which is definitely worth reading.

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/comme...ers-887136.html

I've been losing a great deal of sleep over this year's Olympics. The Monkey was disqualified from the British banana peeling team on a technicality. He was desperate to visit China to see all the junkies.
mortonjag 2008-08-08 07:08:58
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Aug 7 2008, 09:54 PM) [snapback]491136[/snapback]
Like Stevenson, Graham needs to sort out his attitude. the big fella thought he should have been playing every week and went into a huff when DI/DC dropped him from the bench. Still, a spell down in the doldrums might help him realise what he's got at Cappielow. smile.gif

Is that correct Anus?

Why does Colin Stewart wear pinkish red boots and are they both size fourteen please?
mortonjag 2008-08-08 07:14:09
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 7 2008, 10:31 PM) [snapback]491149[/snapback]
Mark MY words - he won't. dry.gif

Time will tell!
mortonjag 2008-08-08 07:19:31
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 7 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]491152[/snapback]
The flanks are Mortons achillies heel at the moment.

McAlister can beat his man with ease but a winger should be hitting the byeline as often as possible, Jim does this even less that Kev.

Both tend to cut inside - McAlister due to being out of position and Finlayson cos he rarely beats his man on the outside.

We need better players in both positions - having Jim and Kev competing for the right sided slot and signing a competent left winger would be my next priority if I was DI.

That makes some sense to me.
mortonjag 2008-08-08 07:26:39
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 7 2008, 11:07 PM) [snapback]491161[/snapback]
If Greacen had his toenail removed (as was said in Tele') then he'll need a painkilling shot before playing on Saturday, or he'll be in absolute agony if he gets stood on (which over 90 minutes is more than likely!).

Seems a bit much of a risk (injections have other effects beside killing the pain) when we have Walker, Weatherson, Shimmin and Harding all available.

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mortonjag 2008-08-08 07:41:30
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 7 2008, 11:22 PM) [snapback]491170[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

Is the "current" share offer open ended ?

If Donald has not bought, should not the other shareholders be privvy to that information.

At one stage it was reported that he would take up 40% of the issue.

If that has not happened, could it be regarded as misrepresentation ?

I'm led to believe that at the E.G.M. for the share launch, those present were informed that 'there were some other people who were interested in investing in the Club, but the 'Chairman' of the meeting was not at liberty to state whom they were. Golden Casket will be required to take up 200,000 of the shares to maintain its 75.1% of the club, but only if all the shares are taken up (this-to allow the Club to remain as a subsidiary of G.C.).

QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 7 2008, 11:51 PM) [snapback]491182[/snapback]
I've checked the mantlepiece , even checked under the dust and its all empty .

You are but an ORDINARY trust member! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 07:49:40
QUOTE(standman @ Jul 29 2008, 08:03 PM) [snapback]486247[/snapback]
When the website was relaunched last year I was hopeful of regular informative updates and a more professional service.

However I shouild have known better.

I would never check the website first before looking on here for news.

Surely this shouldn't be the case ?

How many hits per month more could Morton have if they kept their website up to date and made more effort ? Surely more hits means more revenue via advertising ?

Having had a look just there the following is pretty inexcusable :

1) The Chairman's page lastr updated in April.

2) Club News..the bare minimm match report i.e. the score and team lineups. They don't even have the attendance. Contrast this with the St Mirren website. As Midtons has stated there's nothing about the passing of a long standing member of the staff either.

3) The Manager's page. You can read his programme notes from March 1st.

Other websites have pre and post match comments, not just his programme notes from long ago.

4) The squad. Can you believe they don't have pics of Brian Wake and Iain Russell for example ? Not exactly new signings !

5) Fixtures. The scores for pre-season haven't been filled in.

Next Match : apparently they are still waiting on the fixtures !

This kind of stuff gives the impression of a slap dash operation.

Yet there's nothing tricky there to deal with at all.

I think that certain people fill in certain pages and everything else is forgotten.

Any views ?



If Fr. Rae thought the website could bring him more lovely munny he'd get it sorted.

He's stuck in a time warp.
mortonjag 2008-08-08 07:55:42
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 7 2008, 09:33 PM) [snapback]491122[/snapback]
fine piece of journalism. apparently the AK47 is 'deadly' laugh.gif
rather than to a proper university?

"Noor, a grade A student hoping to study medicine at Cambridge"

all those degrees and still it seems you have a problem with comprehension laugh.gif

Alistair, your postings are becoming bizarre again. Do you wish some counselling?

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 7 2008, 11:42 PM) [snapback]491179[/snapback]
I don't think Cooncillor Kalishnikov would lay any claim to socialism. He might leave that to the philanthropist and parliamentary worthy Mr Mohammed Sarwar. biggrin.gif

Both gentlemen are IMHO amoral capitalists.
mortonjag 2008-08-08 08:08:11
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 7 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]491142[/snapback]
I cry so safe ?
It's the best i could come up with. rolleyes.gif

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I 'F' COY ARSES! bag.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 08:11:57
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 8 2008, 05:55 AM) [snapback]491214[/snapback]
The hackneyed tartan tory oxymoron that is 'Independence in Europe' I believe. laugh.gif 'Most analysts believe'....... aye, sure. Can you define most please, and while you're at it, analyst ? Jeezo CHC, more and more you're sounding like a politician. I'm surprised, I'd credited you with more integrity. Would it be such a bad thing if Scotland didn't bother to apply for membership and remained outside the EU? I don't think so. Norway and Iceland seem to doing very nicely without such dubious benefits. This here analyst believes so anyway. biggrin.gif

Aye-we should bomb Brussells tout de suite.
mortonjag 2008-08-08 08:15:29
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 8 2008, 07:50 AM) [snapback]491227[/snapback]
She was at it again this morning on GMTV. Flashing her panties like a common hussy rolleyes.gif

And she has previous.......... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oeNO8nJR_w

Did you zoom straight in Spurtle? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 08:26:06 Prediction time again folks-this is going to be a VERY tough one IMO. I know we've strengthened, but on paper they should still be able to beat us.That's where the feel good factor needs to kick in. If the Cowshed once and for all forgets the past and gets behind the team FOR 90 MINUTES-NOT JUST WHEN WE SCORE, I reckon the boys can do it.

Anyway the Monkey predicts 2-1 (Weatherson/Greacen header) laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 08:29:45
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 8 2008, 08:17 AM) [snapback]491238[/snapback]
My personal belief is that an independent Scotland would fare better within the EU, but equally I'm sure it would prosper outside it as well.

Where did I say it would be a bad thing if we had to apply for membership anyway? huh.gif I was simply trying to answer Newts questions as suscinctly as I could. Perhaps you need new reading glasses?

The names of the 'most analysis' I was referring to escape me. I took it from an article on the subject I read some time ago, I think in the Observer, where the opinions of some former EU commissioners and consitutional 'analysts' were sought on this very subject. Incidently, as the UK in its current form would cease to exist the same question arises for England, Wales and Northern Ireland in the event of a break up.

With the exception of I think only one of the 'analysts' questioned, they were generally of the opinion that since all 'countries' of the UK are currently part of the EU, membership would be automatically granted to any 'country' that leaves the UK. If I remember correctly about 6 in total were questioned.

So, to answer your questions in detail, by 'analysts' I meant ex-EU commissioners and legal experts who specialise in EU laws. And by 'majority' I meant 5 out of 6.

Sorry you couldn't just take my word for it, I'll try to find the article if I find the time and post a link.

How can those Nostradami be trusted?
mortonjag 2008-08-08 09:45:41
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 8 2008, 08:41 AM) [snapback]491244[/snapback]
I know of no reply MJ.

Cheers Sean-though it's far from comforting that this man who has a 'lifelong passion' for Morton cannot promptly answer a polite enquiry from the Club's Supporters Trust.

If I was treated with such apparent contempt, I'd at least be pondering the possible reasons.

Could it be that he doesn't WANT to answer? Assuming he DID receive the correspondence, I'd suggest that to be the probable answer.

NOW

Given that the Club went to GREAT lengths to prove that he IS a Director, I am of the opinion that he has an OBLIGATION to shareholders, at least to respond to courteous questions.

If this ends up in another 'slag the Jag' fest-so be it.

Time for the mysterious Mr Donald to stop teasing us, and lay his cards on the table. At the end of the day he's just another bloody fan! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 10:01:09
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 8 2008, 09:05 AM) [snapback]491250[/snapback]
I had my two big toenails removed because they were badly ingrown. Getting the toenails removed was no issue, painless with a local anaesthetic but what was painful was the aftermath as in order to prevent the nail growing back, they liberally douse the nail bed with some sort of acid to kill it.

Me, I was about 6-8 weeks before I could get a pair of shoes on again!

I don't know if thats why Stewart had his toenail removed.

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mortonjag 2008-08-08 10:05:18
QUOTE(jpmil @ Aug 8 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]491273[/snapback]
Obviously young Mr Rae doesn't read this rag of a site or he would have made some effort to counter the criticism of his own site!

The Chairman will love you for that compliment! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 10:10:35 Some of the originals were really good. There was a local Tattie Merchant with POT 80
mortonjag 2008-08-08 10:17:42
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 8 2008, 09:43 AM) [snapback]491266[/snapback]
It does seem most odd, Rachmanite behaviour is OK wie the Essenpee. mad.gif

True, and once he'd disposed of that sprawling mansion in the Mearns (because he 'can't pay the bills' wacko.gif ), he could have become another of Bawheid's Holyrood suitors. Tumshie top will be fuming at him for getting caught! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 10:24:23
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 8 2008, 09:25 AM) [snapback]491261[/snapback]
There were more than a few of us in the Mod/New Romantic days who weren't averse to slapping some on.

I know that as a Mod I had no probs with black eyeliner, mascara and depending on the look, blue eye shadow and peach blusher. Kind of chasing that "small faces/keith moon out of your skull look".

I'm comfortable with my sexuality and I've never been confused.

TonInDublin

How I wish I felt the same way!

QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 8 2008, 10:09 AM) [snapback]491284[/snapback]
Make up is for shallow women and p00fters.

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mortonjag 2008-08-08 10:31:42
QUOTE(Rossco @ Aug 8 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]491286[/snapback]
Dont think the stick was aimed entirely at Andy plus at the same time Andy was already doing a very successful webcast.

Their should be somebody employed solely for the updating of the website.

Sure Morton could approach the college to do this that way are keeping it in the community.

If is someone on here for example doing it & they also have a job then if something happens at work & do a lot of overtime then we fall back into the trap of it not being update & that person comes in for criticism for not updating the site.

I like the design of the site but have no need to go on it as it is not updated enough.

I have criticised the website many times in the past more recently the lottery pages not being clear for people wanting to start playing the morton lottery online.

Someone contacted the club about it & the website was amended accordingly within a few hours.
At the risk of sounding like mortonjag maybe their is someone paid to update the site but the chairman has them doing other jobs such as putting a cat outfit on or cutting the crass or attending to players injuries.

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I think it's much more the case that Fr. Rae has no faith in new fangled gadgets like clocks, turnstyles, defibrillators and computers!
mortonjag 2008-08-08 11:16:53 I don't like camp men and I certainly don't like to see men wearing make up.

I don't disapprove of men fancying other men, loving other men, and shagging other men, so long as they acknowledge they are still bloody MEN!
mortonjag 2008-08-08 15:00:19
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 8 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]491364[/snapback]
It's phenol they use, draw a hexagon (phenol ring), make sure it's aromatic and stick a hydroxyl group coming out of it (OH).

That's what I meant when I said it makes no sense for him to play on Saturday, before the "doctor" put a smiley...

Awful stuff, but it doesn't always work!

6-8 weeks? Ya wimp, I walked up the road from the doctor! laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-08 15:11:10
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 8 2008, 12:03 PM) [snapback]491356[/snapback]
So the clear-as-day fact that up to 40% of the examination came in the form of a dissertation rather than a paper in May has no impact on the system of marking?
Yes, that makes perfect sense to me, do try harder...

The clear as day fact young man is that you FAILED to achieve your set target and have to appeal.

Good gracious, if you can't cut it at this level, what chance do you have at a relatively proper University? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 15:15:06
QUOTE(RankinBorn75 @ Aug 8 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]491393[/snapback]
Sean , always ask yourself is it hurting anyone , if the answer is NO then I guess it's up to them ..

MJ You dont like to see men wearing make up .. maybe they dont like to see you NOT waering make up should you start wearing it because of what they think ..

In saying that .. Makeup + Men = BUFTIES !!!!

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Deego and port-ton have insisted they like me just as God intended! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 17:51:41
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 7 2008, 11:07 PM) [snapback]491161[/snapback]
If Greacen had his toenail removed (as was said in Tele') then he'll need a painkilling shot before playing on Saturday, or he'll be in absolute agony if he gets stood on (which over 90 minutes is more than likely!).

Seems a bit much of a risk (injections have other effects beside killing the pain) when we have Walker, Weatherson, Shimmin and Harding all available.

I can't find this anywhere on the Tilly's web site!

I'm rather amused at the speculations of our resident medical staff!

Toenails are removed for differing reasons, and the nail bed is not always ablated either chemically or mechanically. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 18:00:38
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 8 2008, 03:20 PM) [snapback]491441[/snapback]
No target was strictly set - I'd like to compare with someone else who passed the exam but I'm afraid they're not available, for clear and obvious reasons. blush.gif
Mega-FAIL.

I see you're attempting to retreat into your schoolboy microcosm for support, child.

You 'f*cked up' or you wouldn't be appealing-either that or you belong to the 'everything for nothing' culture-possibly both!!!

Why can't you take it on your smooth little chin like a big boy should? laugh.gif

mortonjag 2008-08-08 18:11:59 I had a good friend who was a mason, and also a Personnel Officer (in the days when job titles were less confusing) He lived and worked in good old proddy Erdry.

We used to partake of fluids at the Masonic Club-just up from Broomfield Park- where prices were very low, and all the guys seemed 'good eggs'.

I had frequently arguments with him about religious tolerance-fraid he saw them calf licks as something of a lesser species-but he had some good points too!

I went to a dinner dance with that lot. At the end (I was a wee bit tipsy) I refused on principle to stand up for the 'National Anthem'. My friend literally dragged me to my feet as others around were looking at me in a somewhat menacing way.

I remained friendly with him until time and geography ultimately separated us, but I NEVER went back to a Masonic function of any kind. happy.gif

mortonjag 2008-08-08 18:19:44
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 8 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]491453[/snapback]
What, naked? unsure.gif

Almost

QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 8 2008, 05:52 PM) [snapback]491514[/snapback]
Obviously.

You forgot about my magic token! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 18:21:25 A luke warm Stranraer pie and no bloody Bovril! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 18:24:40
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 8 2008, 03:29 PM) [snapback]491451[/snapback]
I don't hate her ! I just said you can see her panties and she is acting like a hussy blink.gif

Anyway, don't want to seem pedantic, but is it not spelt Misogyny....?? rolleyes.gif

Dr Bam has spelled 'it' correctly Spurtle.

BTW what colour were the said scants and were there any stains or bulges?
mortonjag 2008-08-08 18:29:32 No more pictures of jobbies coming out.

No more boasts of bizarre sexual exploits.

No more questions for the agony auntie.

Well here's a point for discussion!

If you were offered your hole by an absolutely cracking fourteen year old and KNEW you'd get off with it, would you willingly 'join' the sex offenders list.

For the time being I remain non-committal! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 18:36:02
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 8 2008, 05:54 PM) [snapback]491516[/snapback]
Hilarious.

Indeed-Anus is the soul of wit! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 18:46:16
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 8 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]491533[/snapback]
1-1. Russell will get the goal for us.

Not 'can't hit a barn door/always offside Russell surely? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 18:48:55
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 8 2008, 06:47 PM) [snapback]491536[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2008-08-08 18:55:44 Credit where due!


From GMFC:



Co-operative Insurance Cup
2nd Draw

The draw for the 2nd round of this season's Co-operative Insurance Cup will be made on Monday 11th August 2008 at 2pm
mortonjag 2008-08-08 19:07:28
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 8 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]491548[/snapback]
why? bouncy.gif

Because-Alistair! bag.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 19:09:11
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 8 2008, 06:53 PM) [snapback]491540[/snapback]
I'M A COMIN'!

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mortonjag 2008-08-08 19:10:58 Davie Irons and Derek Collins were born in the same place!
mortonjag 2008-08-08 20:10:01
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 8 2008, 07:07 PM) [snapback]491551[/snapback]
mortonjag does not seem to know eek.gif

Mortonjag knows all Mortonjag needs to know Alistair-Mortonjag has many contacts.Don't you need a jobby or something? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 20:11:38
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 8 2008, 07:15 PM) [snapback]491566[/snapback]
Cool.

Wee clue-unlike Donkey Dave-NOT a stable!
mortonjag 2008-08-08 20:15:48
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 8 2008, 07:18 PM) [snapback]491572[/snapback]
complete sense requires a different font laugh.gif

VERY TRUE ALISTAIR!
mortonjag 2008-08-08 20:17:40
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 8 2008, 07:25 PM) [snapback]491582[/snapback]
Yes. Why? blink.gif

I was just checking!
mortonjag 2008-08-08 20:24:54
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 8 2008, 08:15 PM) [snapback]491604[/snapback]
I don't think it's wrong because the only person it concerns is the person wearing it, and they have the right to dress and 'doll up' as they wish.

It's not for me but I think it's narrow-minded to say it's not acceptable.

If I see a man wearing make up I automatically question his sexuality/sanity.

As I said earlier, I have no objection to homosexual men but I hate effin fairies!
mortonjag 2008-08-08 20:29:38
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 8 2008, 07:21 PM) [snapback]491574[/snapback]
I have a shovel.
I have an axe.
I have a wheelbarrow.
I don't really need anything more to be honest.


A mousetrap?
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 8 2008, 07:32 PM) [snapback]491589[/snapback]
laugh.gif
Dapper Dan the Teacher man.

I knew that wouldn't last long in 'Shelter'.
mortonjag 2008-08-08 20:33:45
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 8 2008, 07:30 PM) [snapback]491586[/snapback]
White scants MJ. Perhaps some perve caught them on camera for Youtube bouncy.gif

Cotton, linen, woollen, satin, lacy, frilly-erm---gussetless? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 20:39:11
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 8 2008, 08:35 PM) [snapback]491617[/snapback]
Don't know, I only seen them for about 0.0025 of a second blink.gif

laugh.gif

......and turned away in disgust I presume!

Now had that been Sir Cliff flashing his bronzed bangle! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 20:52:17
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Aug 8 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]491626[/snapback]
Alister Donalds overseas hide away ???

laugh.gif

There is no Maternity Hospital on Gruinard!
mortonjag 2008-08-08 21:02:22
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 8 2008, 08:56 PM) [snapback]491632[/snapback]
what a strange response.

newton wanted to know if the share issue was open-ended.

answer came there none.

Newt and I have more than one method of liaison Alistair-now are you going for that keech or not? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 21:04:51
QUOTE(Kaney @ Aug 8 2008, 08:57 PM) [snapback]491634[/snapback]
Glesca toon?

smile.gif

QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 8 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]491636[/snapback]
Bellshill rings a bell from the days that I used to care about things like that.

Nope-I used to wonder why so many famous footballers were born in Bellshill until I discovered that Bellshill maternity covered almost the whole of Lanarkshire at one time!
mortonjag 2008-08-08 21:09:28
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 8 2008, 09:03 PM) [snapback]491640[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Stop teasing me MJ rolleyes.gif

Did I take a rise out of you by mentioning 'Bachelor Boy'? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 21:12:58
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 8 2008, 08:59 PM) [snapback]491635[/snapback]
but not that one laugh.gif

The font of


KNOWLEDGE?
mortonjag 2008-08-08 21:15:23
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 8 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]491642[/snapback]
Instead of playing 5 across the midfeild. McAllister will play a more central forward role just behind the strikers

I'd have him on the bench where he can do least damage! angel.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 21:38:41
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Aug 8 2008, 09:26 PM) [snapback]491657[/snapback]
Lanark

Nope!
mortonjag 2008-08-08 21:41:00
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 8 2008, 09:31 PM) [snapback]491660[/snapback]
Smith and Reid anyone?

We need MUNNY first!
mortonjag 2008-08-08 21:44:37 My kids loved Curly Wurlies.
mortonjag 2008-08-08 21:46:22
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 8 2008, 09:35 PM) [snapback]491662[/snapback]
Fains of Mintry pipe band, very sh1te I might add too!

Apparently Strathclyde Police pipe band were meant to be doing it at first but were pulled out due to the political climate.

...or something.

That'll be a professional opinion I'd imagine! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 21:48:37
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Aug 8 2008, 09:37 PM) [snapback]491663[/snapback]
I suppose just about anything is acceptable these days, however if my lad walked in the house with makeup on I would be inclined to laugh loudly while booting his deviant homo arse oot the windae.

I hope that didn't come across as too reactionary unsure.gif

If I had a pouffe son and he came in wearing make up, I'd be upset too! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 21:53:45
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 8 2008, 09:43 PM) [snapback]491668[/snapback]
Get your wallet out then!

You sure have some cheek-effin blackmailing me and saying things like that is surely the arsehole of effrontery.
mortonjag 2008-08-08 21:55:38
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Aug 8 2008, 09:50 PM) [snapback]491678[/snapback]
Ok, erm, Edinburger ?, Motherwell ?, Dumfries ?

Does it matter rolleyes.gif

To them-I'd guess-'Aye'!
mortonjag 2008-08-08 21:58:02
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 8 2008, 09:55 PM) [snapback]491686[/snapback]
I know you are but what am i?

You are my port-ton
My only port-ton
You make me happy
That special way
You give this old soul
A happy arsehole
Please don't take my port-ton away.
mortonjag 2008-08-08 22:02:37
QUOTE(McInally`s Monkey @ Aug 8 2008, 09:58 PM) [snapback]491689[/snapback]
I remember reading it in the tele too but haven't spotted it on the website. Must have been wednesday's paper and pretty sure it was a quote by either DI or DC

TY!

You see I was wondering which toe of which foot and for what reason the nail was removed in order that I could offer a proper prognosis, rather than have our good posters confused by the speculation of wannabe quacks! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 22:07:32
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Aug 8 2008, 09:54 PM) [snapback]491683[/snapback]
I'd punch his cnut in

Make up Gibby-NOT plastic surgery!
mortonjag 2008-08-08 22:09:33
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Aug 8 2008, 09:31 PM) [snapback]491659[/snapback]
Nope,
Over sexed bunch of ........ on here ph34r.gif

Obviously all outside the Guide Hall at the moment!
mortonjag 2008-08-08 22:22:20
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 8 2008, 10:10 PM) [snapback]491696[/snapback]
laugh.gif

Your grandkids must be sooo proud of you.

laugh.gif
There's another one being cooked at the moment-I DO so much hope it's another little boy! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 22:29:05
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 8 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]491698[/snapback]
Has MJ seen my 14yr old and now wants off with her unsure.gif
In answer to your question I doubt any father of a daughter would say 'Aye'

Is Fing or the Monkey female unsure.gif

They are both male-they kiss each other goodnight and always add 'but we're not pouffes'.

I remain to be convinced! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 22:33:32
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 8 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]491707[/snapback]
Semi-professional actually happy.gif
She does aye, well not as much now as she works Saturdays but hopefully will play Cowal.

That'll be semi-amateur, I assume! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-09 07:57:09
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 8 2008, 11:27 PM) [snapback]491753[/snapback]
Check the last paragraph and link in this post: http://greenockmortonfc.blogspot.com/2008/...ct-details.html

TY!

Should I believe the Tilly or this?


If Greacen had his toenail removed (as was said in Tele') then he'll need a painkilling shot before playing on Saturday, or he'll be in absolute agony if he gets stood on (which over 90 minutes is more than likely!).

Seems a bit much of a risk (injections have other effects beside killing the pain) when we have Walker, Weatherson, Shimmin and Harding all available.


unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-09 08:07:49
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 8 2008, 11:36 PM) [snapback]491756[/snapback]
They were both born in Glasgow so I'd guess at the old Rottenrow Maternity Hospital?

You're doing better than me-I just happened to notice they had both been born in Glasgow which surprised me as I always believed DI was born and bred in Dumfries!

Iain Russell's place of birth seems a bit of a mystery.
mortonjag 2008-08-09 08:16:10
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 9 2008, 08:00 AM) [snapback]491836[/snapback]
could someone decode the code ?!

blink.gif

Indeed Newt-it's chubby little Smegma trying to wind Mortonjag up. If you require the full minutes of the E.G.M just let me know, and B.T.W. Mr Donald has been a designated Director of the club for almost two weeks. I got that from exactly the same source as I used prior to my exchanging p.m.'s with Greacen 2000, and prior to 'his' revelation during the long running AD thread! laugh.gif

As I stated previously, Mortonjag has many contacts-but you knew that already! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-09 08:34:19
QUOTE(centralTON @ Aug 9 2008, 01:21 AM) [snapback]491806[/snapback]
Viking, good luck with whatever you aspire to, regardless of the "Uni", I hate MJ's policy. I have met you and found you to be a decent bloke, hope you found me the same way. wink.gif

Maybe you should choose another insurer Lavvy Man! laugh.gif


There again, you could perhaps explain exactly WHAT you hate.

I can't abide 'SPARROTS' (sponge/parrot hybrids)-it's quite simple. There are dozens of youngsters of this massage board who DON'T appear to live in a make believe world of big books and pseudo academia. Many are about to enter/attending/ have qualifications from Universities/Colleges of all grades of propriety, and they don't come on here brazenly plagiarising like little Lord Fontleroy! ph34r.gif

'Decent' blokes become indecent in my book when they question the proven wisdom, knowledge, and experience of their elders. SPARROT doesn't appear to have an original idea in his bright little cranium-Alexander Pope clocked him thus:


'The bookful blockhead, ignorantly read, with loads of learned lumber in his head'!


Just wait till he tries telling you how to sweat joints and rod drains! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-09 08:41:21
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 9 2008, 02:57 AM) [snapback]491821[/snapback]
[attachment=4323:VT.JPG]
I didn't know you had a career playing football in Australia VT, to be honest after being in your team i really thought neither of us were good enough to make a living from football but im proud that you managed to make a name for yourself down under.

Im also liking your hair better like that. smile.gif

MENTAL ATTRIBUTES


Influence-5

Hmm-probably slightly overstated. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-09 08:46:54
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 8 2008, 11:14 PM) [snapback]491747[/snapback]
Why did you change Sir Cliff's bangle from sunburned to bronzed ? dry.gif

I have an alarming addiction to alliteration Spurtle.
mortonjag 2008-08-09 08:50:29
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 8 2008, 10:49 PM) [snapback]491727[/snapback]
...but where do they kiss each other! Somehow I don't it's the face lips wink.gif

Lips!

QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Aug 8 2008, 11:57 PM) [snapback]491774[/snapback]
depends on what the cracking 14 year old is;
14 year old horse - possibly, shetland pony or similar. rolleyes.gif
14 year old sheep - nope, mutton dressed as lamb. mad.gif
14 year old blue whale - yes, flubbadubby wub.gif
14 year old copy of fiesta magazine - ooohhhh yes 1eye.gif
14 year old single malt - no, don't drink. angel.gif
14 year old mature danish blue - possible, i think i may have went down on a few rip.gif
14 year old emu - yes, i would like to do a bird standing up. wink.gif

laugh.gif

Bicdoc in funny post! blush.gif



But WHERE are all the big c*cks who were boasting of their exploits no time ago on the Jesse Boys' pages!
mortonjag 2008-08-09 08:53:04
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Aug 9 2008, 08:39 AM) [snapback]491842[/snapback]
was he born in Atlantis?

Large oaks from little acorns grow!
mortonjag 2008-08-10 08:23:14 He played quite well yesterday but looked in considerable pain when he was subbed-may have been his toe.
mortonjag 2008-08-10 08:25:50
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 9 2008, 12:24 PM) [snapback]491915[/snapback]
Was he born offside , hence no official record of him being at the hospital laugh.gif

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 08:27:07
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 9 2008, 11:16 PM) [snapback]492159[/snapback]
If it is concussion it's an automatic 2 week lay off.

mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 08:43:06
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 9 2008, 01:10 PM) [snapback]491922[/snapback]
alastair donald's date of appointment on form 288a is given as 1 July 2008.

the egm share issue resolutions specify a period of 5 years.


As usual Alistair, you talk in complete riddles! You must be severely constipated by now, and my offer of a 'manual' is delete.

QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 9 2008, 07:46 PM) [snapback]492038[/snapback]
As we are fans and the main source of income for GMFC I think we're entitled to know, or don't you care ??

Willy Man-there are certain regular offenders who care much more about self aggrandisement. Undoubtedly if the Jag had been posting the same sort of stuff in the Scott era those low life scum would have reacted in the same way.

QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Aug 9 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]492042[/snapback]
The fans are not the main source of income for Morton, the Golden Casket Group is. rolleyes.gif

The club's main source of INCOME is the fans Anus-plain and simple-and don't you forget it!

QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 9 2008, 08:04 PM) [snapback]492053[/snapback]
even if you were a shareholder, i doubt if you would be entitled to know

....entitled to know WHAT Alistair-the circumference of Mr Donald's sigmoid colon in the contracted state? dry.gif

I take it you were not perturbed by H.S.'s behaviour either!

cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Aug 9 2008, 08:14 PM) [snapback]492061[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Am I the only one who thinks the signing of Cuthbert and Shimmin may have something to do with Donalds purse? huh.gif

We don't need someone who splashes the cash like a maniac, then we would have agents taking the mick, quiet money is what we need - spent wisely at the request of Mr Irons dry.gif

Source? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 08:57:19
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Aug 9 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]491913[/snapback]
You really are the King of contradictions

Your warped logic makes your constant sniping at Rae even more ironic as (based on your derogatory comments about his age,) he is probably older and certainly has more experience of running a football club than you - thus you must be a thoroughly “indecent bloke.â€

As for wisdom, I find it strange that such a learned man as yourself would waste his time on what is essentially a thread for school weans excited or otherwise, about their exam results.

Personal attacks on young people (for having the audacity to do what comes naturally and question things,) by a fully fledged academic smacks of anything but wisdom! Years ago, before you could hide behind the internet, if you had behaved like this the boys old man would have appeared on your doorstep to beat the crap out of you.

I suspect you are bitter and jealous that they have their whole lives ahead of them with the potential to do what they want whilst you ……….have a few thousand posts left! unsure.gif

laugh.gif

I suspect you are an imperceptive person.
I suspect you imagine masturbation is a cardinal sin
I suspect you are SPARROT'S long lost wombling Uncle Bulgaria.
I suspect you are anally retentive.
I suspect you don't understand the meaning of 'logic'.
I suspect you don't have any sense of humour.
I suspect you are probably an extremely decent person in real life.
I suspect you believe in Santa Claus almost as much as Mortonjag.


............and can't understand 'knock knock' jokes, let alone a 'wind up'! thumbdown.gif

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 9 2008, 05:38 PM) [snapback]491987[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif

Nothing but a pompous c***.
Must try harder I'm afraid.

Still hurting my little one? blush.gif It WAS only an exam. We got a good point yesterday. All is well in the world! laugh.gif

QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 10 2008, 05:16 AM) [snapback]492260[/snapback]
Gidday Last Boat Home,

I understand that mortonjag is in excellent health, apart from his wee penile problem.

He probably has several hundred thousand posts to go.

laugh.gif

I would happily give him a 50,000 post warranty any day.

blink.gif

Why thank you kind Sir-it's refreshing to learn that the Antipodes houses at least one perceptive poster! cool.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 09:31:54
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 9 2008, 07:41 PM) [snapback]492037[/snapback]
Cuthbert definitely, no Kilwinning connections where possible please.

laugh.gif


Cuthbert for me too-time will tell!
mortonjag 2008-08-10 09:43:15
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 9 2008, 11:56 PM) [snapback]492165[/snapback]
It was f***ing psih as per usual. Two or three muted songs the whole game and other than the last 20 mins it was like a morgue at times.


It was indeed-the Cowshed only got vocal after the goals-that is now the norm! dry.gif
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 10 2008, 12:02 AM) [snapback]492166[/snapback]
I'd go so far as saying he played a major part in our revival. His first touch of the ball took him to the byeline and won us a corner. Take note, McAlister.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Though we DID get several corners!
mortonjag 2008-08-10 10:12:35
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 10 2008, 09:46 AM) [snapback]492281[/snapback]
Point being it's a wingers job to get to the byeline. Despite Jim's usual huffing and puffing and one tremendous run in the second half he was completely innefective. We know he can do it, look at the damage he caused against Killie. He's definitely going backwards this season.

laugh.gif

His showcase run in the second half fizzled out like a damp squib as usual. Almost as effective as his attempt to land a shot in the Golden Casket factory during the first half.

I've read all the post match analysis and he hardly gets a mention anywhere.

Unless he can be effectively be slotted in elsewhere he should be punted for the £200,000 or so we're constantly being told he's worth. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 10:24:41 FIFA Referee Profiles

Colin Brown

Date of Birth: 3 January 1974

Height: 5ft 10"

Weight: 12st 7

Profession: Solicitor

First ever match: St. Pauls v. Northern Colts U10's November 1989

First international match: 4th official on Scotland v. Wales U16's in the Victory Shield in 2004.

Career highlights Being promoted to Category 1 in June 2005
Refereeing the Scottish Junior Cup Semi Final in 2005

What does being a football referee mean to you? It means that I am able to go places, meet people, make friends and be involved in our national sport.

Why did you become a referee? My dad was a referee and I went to games with him and met a lot of referees. I used to go to referees training with my dad and knew some of the referees in Fife so when I was 15 I decided to attend the referees course in Fife.

Would you have wished to become a full-time referee? No

Any pet hates in football? Players who cheat

What Law of the Game would you change? Offside

The most difficult Law to apply? Simulation

Your best memory in football? The friends that I have

Other sports or hobbies? Bowls, Golf, Cooking

Your main strength? Being totally committed to everything I do

And main weaknesses? The inability to say no

What's in your car CD player? KT Tunstall

Beer or wine? Wine

Favourite film? Forrest Gump

Tastiest food? Mexican

Favourite holiday destination? America

Luck or judgement? Judgement

Dress up or dress down? Dress up

Whom would you most like to meet? Nelson Mandela, Robbie Williams

Ambitions? To go as far as I can in all that I do

Any advice for young referees? Be strong in all that you do and never be frightened to ask for advice from one of your colleagues




As anybody who enjoyed Dan Dare remembers, and as depicted, The Mekon in Black's interest in bowls is understandable!
mortonjag 2008-08-10 10:40:04
QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 10 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]492300[/snapback]
Was interested to see that Hamilton have Craig Thompson refereeing their match on Monday night. How is that investigation coming along?

I have written again twice with no reply, despite Drew Herbertson's claim that the incident was 'being investigated'.

Following the recent 'Refs' Strike' nonsense, Gordon Smith said the best referees 'try to get it right all the time' and claimed that 'when they don't, we do something about it'.

I had more or less given up on it, but I'll maybe have a final shot at Mr Smith this week!

Digressing slightly, it does somewhat amuse me that highly paid solicitors like Thomson and yesterday's Mekon are picking up £600-800 per game.

I DON'T mind if they do the job well and honestly. Experience suggests otherwise.
mortonjag 2008-08-10 10:45:57
QUOTE(C B @ Aug 10 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]492299[/snapback]
Yes ph34r.gif
I'm not a grass happy.gif

laugh.gif

I saw no evidence of Alistair at Cappielow yesterday. Rangers were playing at Falkirk.

Pehaps he was out of the county.
mortonjag 2008-08-10 10:49:21
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 10 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]492290[/snapback]
I think we are being a wee bit harsh on McAllister here. He has the ability, but doesn't at this moment in time have the end product.
He will always cause teams problems regardless. What I would like to see, if he is having a poor game, then he gets dropped.
Finlayson came on as a sub and made an impact. McAllister perhaps thinks he is guarenteed a game. It would be good to keep him on his toes and sub/drop him if need be.

I'm deliberately being harsh because there is no way he should be let anywhere near the left attacking wing position, yet it seems the only space left for him now! blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 10:52:47
QUOTE(C B @ Aug 10 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]492311[/snapback]
Falkirk game was finished in time and Stirlingshire isn't that far away, so theres no excuse really rolleyes.gif

Football's an expensive business those days-could you afford two matches in the one day?

If he's too tight to spend a bean on the Ton, I reckon he just took in the one-that and the absence of a helipad at Scapa.
mortonjag 2008-08-10 11:00:40 Please settle an argument.

My brother claims it's the old clock back from the pawn, but I thought it looked nice and new! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 11:04:13
QUOTE(C B @ Aug 10 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]492319[/snapback]
Now that the programmes are 50p cheaper, just about cool.gif
Has he never heard of parachuting out a plane mad.gif

Apparently it's been banned as it can distract players for a whole season!
mortonjag 2008-08-10 11:06:15
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 10 2008, 11:03 AM) [snapback]492321[/snapback]
It looked just like the Old Clock however due to it having been washed by rain for 12hrs previous it may have looked nice and new.

Argument settled and thread should now be closed laugh.gif

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It was a question for the cognoscenti Willy Man!
mortonjag 2008-08-10 11:10:08
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 10 2008, 10:57 AM) [snapback]492318[/snapback]
I said Greacen shouldn't play 'til next Saturday if he had the nailbed cauterized as it would hurt like f***! He obviously either didn't have it done, or he's one hard b*****d!

The two weeks for a concussion was the rule the SFA were talking about, to be brought into Scottish football a few seasons ago, to prevent further damage. If he plays any sooner then you'll know he either didn't have a concussion, or they didn't actually get round to applying the rule... dry.gif

PS Trumpton, you don't count. You were just daft, another head knock and you could have been left with serious problems.

Concussion's a very loose term (like diarrhoea).
mortonjag 2008-08-10 11:12:06
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 10 2008, 11:09 AM) [snapback]492327[/snapback]
Aye well I decided to butt in Dr Death laugh.gif

I'm convinced it's new and has been bought on tick.
mortonjag 2008-08-10 11:17:59 For those who rate Superkev and Jimbo, and criticise McGuffie! laugh.gif


The Tortoise and the Hare
One of Aesop's Fables


Once upon a time there was a hare who, boasting how he could run faster than anyone else, was forever teasing tortoise for its slowness. Then one day, the irate tortoise answered back: "Who do you think you are? There's no denying you're swift, but even you can be beaten!" The hare squealed with laughter.

"Beaten in a race? By whom? Not you, surely! I bet there's nobody in the world that can win against me, I'm so speedy. Now, why don't you try?"

Annoyed by such bragging, the tortoise accepted the challenge. A course was planned, and the next day at dawn they stood at the starting line. The hare yawned sleepily as the meek tortoise trudged slowly off. When the hare saw how painfully slow his rival was, he decided, half asleep on his feet, to have a quick nap. "Take your time!" he said. "I'll have forty winks and catch up with you in a minute."

The hare woke with a start from a fitful sleep and gazed round, looking for the tortoise. But the creature was only a short distance away, having barely covered a third of the course. Breathing a sigh of relief, the hare decided he might as well have breakfast too, and off he went to munch some cabbages he had noticed in a nearby field. But the heavy meal and the hot sun made his eyelids droop. With a careless glance at the tortoise, now halfway along the course, he decided to have another snooze before flashing past the winning post. And smiling at the thought of the look on the tortoise's face when it saw the hare speed by, he fell fast asleep and was soon snoring happily. The sun started to sink, below the horizon, and the tortoise, who had been plodding towards the winning post since morning, was scarcely a yard from the finish. At that very point, the hare woke with a jolt. He could see the tortoise a speck in the distance and away he dashed. He leapt and bounded at a great rate, his tongue lolling, and gasping for breath. Just a little more and he'd be first at the finish. But the hare's last leap was just too late, for the tortoise had beaten him to the winning post. Poor hare! Tired and in disgrace, he slumped down beside the tortoise who was silently smiling at him.

"Slowly does it every time!" he said. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 11:27:58
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 9 2008, 11:05 PM) [snapback]492152[/snapback]
mortonjag in "doesn't know what he's talking about" shocker

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He gets the odd tip for boring folk to tears at weddings etc. I was giving the benefit of the doubt.
mortonjag 2008-08-10 11:31:26
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 10 2008, 04:01 AM) [snapback]492251[/snapback]
Just the education of a proper uni smile.gif
...which aided a very good guess. I'm rubbish at crosswords and the like!!

I won a dictionary in the Sunday Herald Crossword a few months back. I was pleased, though it's one of the most devious I've tried-NOT clever-just damned devious! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 11:39:05
QUOTE(Mags @ Aug 9 2008, 10:35 PM) [snapback]492131[/snapback]
Who's the other guy in your picture? ( not Phil Daniels or Sting ) Yeah,he's wearing eyeliner but he doesn't look at all gay,just looks like a regular,good looking guy so where's the harm in that?

When I went to the Cathcart ( as a girl biggrin.gif ! ) a lot of guys wore make up,me and my mates thought it was really cool as they wore all the new romantic gear and looked great.These guys took a lot of pride in their appearance,not like some of the wee hairy's that went to the Rotunda at the time !! As far as I know most of them are married,totally rubbishing all your immature theories that men who wear make-up must be gay.It's all about style, fashion and individuality.

You're all entitled to your opinion but it doesn't mean you're right.

I can't believe some of the quotes on here from parents about what they would do if they found out their son was gay.
I agree it would be a shock but hey....you created him....he got his genes from YOU .
Mags.

While I agree whole heartedly with that-men who wear make up look pouffe.

If they are pouffe-fine-if they like advertising it, but why would straight men want to look like pouffes?

Could it be that a significant proportion is incapable of thinking for itself?
mortonjag 2008-08-10 11:45:41
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 10 2008, 10:56 AM) [snapback]492317[/snapback]
LOL !!!!

Trust me mate, if you saw my girl you'd know I'm defo not gay - Donga will testify that she's a cracker.
Never even been curious !

Unless of course you meant that I was jolly and happy - in which case - thanks partner - and I hope you're gay too.
TonInDublin

Where is the said?


I was looking forward to his OTT protestations that he'd NEVER shag a fourteen year old, now he's married. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 11:53:23
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Aug 10 2008, 11:28 AM) [snapback]492336[/snapback]
Same old clock having been away for repair, new perspex face cover! wink.gif

HA


He swore blind it was the old clock, and I argued vehemently that it wasn't 'because it had a different front'! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

It wasn't the old clock at all. The old clock had the old face!

Mortonjag is correct AGAIN! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 11:58:41
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Aug 10 2008, 11:39 AM) [snapback]492344[/snapback]
Other than the highlighted sentence, you're wrong on every point.

On which premises do you base your claim young man?

Oh, and are you stating opinion or fact? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 16:56:32
QUOTE(Jamie_M @ Aug 10 2008, 12:56 PM) [snapback]492379[/snapback]
Same face - different face COVER.

Just like when you wear womens clothing. Same mortonjag just different cover...

When mortonjag dons women's clothing he becomes Isidora.
mortonjag 2008-08-10 16:58:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 10 2008, 01:10 PM) [snapback]492388[/snapback]
Perhaps he is a part timer.

Just like the clock until yesterday!
mortonjag 2008-08-10 17:03:13
From the Chairman's Desk
13 June 2007

CLOSE SEASON SIGNING MISSIONS

I was disappointed to note from the unofficial message board that the Club was being criticised for lack of effort and lack of ambition because we have not yet made any close season signings. Isn’t it disappointing to note that the ‘negativity boys’ are at it again? They are never happier than when they have a good old moan. Thankfully the majority of our support has greater trust and confidence in the management of our Club than some of the correspondents of the unofficial message board’! Reports have suggested that we have been sitting back and taking it easy. I wish that had been the case. Believe me, the ‘gaffer’ and I have been very very busy talking and sparring with players and their Agents. Understandably players who are out of contract are considering all their options; the majority want to either play in the Premier league in Scotland or for one team or another in England where the wages are much higher then in Scotland.

I should perhaps tell you what we are looking for in the marketplace, a few players who are better than the players we currently have at Cappielow. That is a hard call as many of our players are above average which makes it more difficult to get the type of player we want because those who are better than we currently have don’t want to play in the 1st Division if they can do better for themselves.

We have been chasing a left sided player, aged 26, who has previously played in the Premier League and in England. If we can get him we will have to pay cash to his present Club to acquire his services. We will know the position in the course of next week.


We have also been searching far and near for a big strong mid-fielder. The ideal man for whom we made an approach was Simon Mensing of St Johnstone. However Simon turned us down as he does not want another season in the 1st Division and he will likely sign for either Motherwell or Swindon Town.

Finally, the search for a top goal scorer has also drawn a blank so far. We have a No.1 target who is currently on holiday and with whom we expect to talk the week after next.
As I stated earlier, we believe that we have an excellent pool of players at Cappielow and, having led the league last year from day one until promotion was achieved, we also believe that the guys who took us up have thus earned the chance to play in Division One. We think that if we could obtain the services of the type of players mentioned above that, allied to present staff, we could be a challenging team in the new season. Consider how our lads played against St Johnstone when we defeated them in the CIS Cup and surely you have not forgotten how the boys played in defeating Kilmarnock in the Scottish Cup?

Do you not think that these same lads deserve to lead us into the 1st Division?

One thing that is certain and that is that we will not he badgered into signing players just for the sake of it. We will only sign players that can strengthen the squad. To do otherwise would only be spending money that the Club cannot afford.


A walk down memory lane!


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mortonjag 2008-08-10 17:12:37
QUOTE(leyTON @ Aug 10 2008, 12:22 PM) [snapback]492364[/snapback]
not sure how anyone can rule out shimmin, hes obviously struggling with what a think is a more physical and agressive league from the ones he has played in before, but he looks a cut above IMO. Rescued us a few times yesterday.
the midfield does ,look a lot better, but the kick outs and typical harding hoofs rendered them pointless at times, and im still unsure about mcguffie, hes very reluctant to close down, and i thought he was culpable for the second goal
i hope kev can fulfill the role he did yesterday. hes too frustrating for 90 minutes but when he came on he posed a threat and his running seemed to give everyone a lift
Even though he is our best player, Jim by his own standards had a poor game, millar and the simon le bon lookalike they had at right back showed up the weaknesses in his defensive game, but i think he will pick up
i didnt see any of the games with 3 4 3 but i likeed yesterdays formation and thought that in fact peter had an ok game, especially at left back.

At one time I'd possibly have agreed, but that's now just a myth.
mortonjag 2008-08-10 17:17:45
QUOTE(jpmil @ Aug 10 2008, 04:08 PM) [snapback]492467[/snapback]
Another victim of the JM reign at Cappielow. IMHO this lad showed great promise but never given the opportunity to develop under that Muppet.
I wish Craig all the best for a future in football.

....who had the full confidence of over 75% of our perceptive non-muppet posters just a year ago!

Shall we sing him the Muppet song this Wednesday? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 17:22:14
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 10 2008, 04:30 PM) [snapback]492481[/snapback]
Who?

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Whom? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 17:33:45
QUOTE(leyTON @ Aug 10 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]492358[/snapback]
mortonjag if i degree from glasgow earns you buckets of cash but a pension plan which results in a retirement soley based on going on an internet chatroom and winding up a chap about 5 decades your junior
i normally dont mind you MJ but im starting to feel sorry for old VT
the appeals system is perfectly legitimate


Mortonjag has THREE degrees from a proper University. Your little SPARROT friend has plenty of 'previous' for deliberate and disrespectful abuse of his elders and betters. Ask him for yourself. He'll probably consult some big book before giving you a five paragraph denial. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif The motto is quite simple-let sleeping Jags lie, or to put it in more basic terms-HE STARTED IT! crying.gif
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Aug 10 2008, 12:57 PM) [snapback]492381[/snapback]
On the basis that I know him.

Oh and LAS, hadn't seen your post there, cheers for the advice. smile.gif

I see. Perhaps you'll ask him then why he chose to read this thread selectively before launching a diatribe! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 17:40:43
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 10 2008, 01:33 PM) [snapback]492395[/snapback]
Every generation has its trends and fads . We all have differing opinions on fashion .

Even during the Georgian era men wore wigs and make up so hardly a new phenomenon .

One mans fad is another mans farce .

One man's 'fud' is another man's arse!
mortonjag 2008-08-10 17:47:49
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 10 2008, 12:39 AM) [snapback]492186[/snapback]
what pisses me off is when people eat something, like it, then decide that because they know what it is, it must be rotten or wrong.

My favourite dinner in New Mexico (Albuquerque), which I have to visit frequently, has alligator meat as starters, rattlesnake for main course (with the skeleton and skin and the tail as a key fob as garnishes) - delicious. You chose the snake you want and the snake is killed when you order it and laid out as per what you'd expect for a two-three foot crtter !

Gorgeous. Except for the snake. And the gator.

And I don't give a f*** what anyone says.

TonInDublin

Agreed, though I've never had the baws to tried jellied eels!

QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Aug 10 2008, 02:11 PM) [snapback]492404[/snapback]
In my early days in London I went to my girlfriends parents for dinner one night,nothing posh just family cooking which I was looking forward to as her parents were French and Italian background.Dinner that night was mums home made pasta,never eaten anything better since,accompanied by an anchovy sauce.I forget its proper name but the dish is well known as prostitutes pasta because of its strong fish content.It gave me the boak!Well,nearly.Being well dragged up like wot I is I ate it all.Every last bit and thanked the chef profusely for another wonderful home cooked meal,thinking,thank f*** that's over! Unfortunately I was presented with this again on another occasion but now I KNOW what it tastes like and it was twice as hard to eat but somehow I managed....I confessed all when it came up a third time!

One of the VERY few foods I can't stomach is anchovy!

Last night I had chilli pakora-whole chillies with the stalks still on them, and deep fried in batter. Absolutely gorgeous, and VERY hot!
mortonjag 2008-08-10 18:02:22
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 10 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]492523[/snapback]
How many letters?

four!
mortonjag 2008-08-10 18:03:40
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 10 2008, 05:29 PM) [snapback]492529[/snapback]
I would agree with that. During Millar's high visibility spell during the match, the Morton boys didn't seem bothered about challenging him at all! Luckily he wasn't too much of a threat yesterday. He'll be the same player for St Johnstone IMO, blowing hot and cold all the time. He made a lot of valuable contributions in a Morton shirt, but I don't think his departure really damaged us too much. We've moved on.

Our midfield inertia would benefit greatly from a 'Millar' IMO.
mortonjag 2008-08-10 18:20:36
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 10 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]492545[/snapback]
Can't think of any who fit that description - I'd repect their views if I came across them of course.

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You are much better than me at many things, including (I'd imagine), football, attracting young women, pissing efficiently, remembering things, feeling optimistic about politicians, etc. No doubt you can think of 'hunners' more.


I'm better than you at loads of things too, for the simple reason that I'm much older and have a wealth of experience, in addition to having a reasonably active mind! smile.gif

For example I never contribute to PS3, wrestling, Pop music threads, and so on, because my knowledge about those subjects is 'zilch'.

If I wanted to look important on such threads, it would be easy to plagiarise like mad!


My message to you is simple-state your honestly held opinions, and be prepared to justify them on the basis of your experience. If you cannot, and merely like the sound of somebody else's opinion, by all means share it, but DON'T try to present it as your own. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 18:31:53
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 10 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]492557[/snapback]
He scored, the aim of the game. If we have players that play bad but score goals then I'll take that all season thanks!

Agreed!

Ten minutes of Big Andy is worth ten hours of Superkev.
mortonjag 2008-08-10 18:36:45
QUOTE(dazed @ Aug 10 2008, 01:26 PM) [snapback]492393[/snapback]
Well your in the best position to judge! cool.gif

I think they are just two sweet little boys who love each other!

QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 10 2008, 03:09 PM) [snapback]492439[/snapback]
unsure.gif mellow.gif huh.gif Oh f*** !!!
I'm gay !!! blush.gif

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......but are you a POUFFE?
mortonjag 2008-08-10 18:45:08
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Aug 10 2008, 06:38 PM) [snapback]492562[/snapback]
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That one worked out: McAnespie, Gardyne, Coakley and Robinson all turned out to be worse than the players who were already in their positions in the team. laugh.gif

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I'm still puzzled by one thing-was WAKEY a JM signing or a Chairman signing.

He HAS strengthened the squad-for sure!
mortonjag 2008-08-10 18:48:15
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Aug 10 2008, 11:28 AM) [snapback]492336[/snapback]
Same old clock having been away for repair, new perspex face cover! wink.gif

Is it a mechanical clock?

I can think of somebody who could probably wind it up.
mortonjag 2008-08-10 18:59:07 Many happy returns to Cawstick! blush.gif


...and just for the little one.....

A massage board poster named LeyTON
Claimed joyously he'd a gay date on
And soon he'd be spiking
The arsehole of 'Viking'
Believing 'twould beat masturbation' wub.gif

Go easy of the cake, or in further rhyme you'll be putting weight on!
mortonjag 2008-08-10 19:35:51
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 10 2008, 07:00 PM) [snapback]492567[/snapback]
I thought it was second hand unsure.gif

Could they not face the bill for a newby?
mortonjag 2008-08-10 19:39:51
QUOTE(C B @ Aug 10 2008, 07:06 PM) [snapback]492574[/snapback]
Another pointless anti-kev statement, 10 minutes of big Andy is worth ten hours of ANY morton player SINCE big Andy dry.gif

Neither pointless NOR anti-kev.

Merely a statement of opinion, endorsed by your own comment.
mortonjag 2008-08-10 19:42:58
QUOTE(C B @ Aug 10 2008, 07:09 PM) [snapback]492577[/snapback]
No you are spot on - well said that man wub.gif
Do you need anymore proof of your resounding correctness jpmil? laugh.gif

Ten minutes of Big Andy is worth two hours of Midge.
mortonjag 2008-08-10 19:47:31
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 10 2008, 07:24 PM) [snapback]492579[/snapback]
I thought he was the most influencial player for them in the 1st half and was glad to see he fell out the game in the second .
Up ended McAllister at the start and had the freedom on the stand side .

Noticed yesterday at their corners we had no one sitting out anticepating the second ball and Millar pick up the loose . They eventually used 2 players to try and pick up the out ball .

When it was our corner Millar again patrolled this area and stopped us from getting a clear shot off .

He ain't our player anymore but I wouldn't say he had a bad game for them .

While we have guys in our squad who the manager doesn't rate then any effort by Millar would be better than that of McAnespie rolleyes.gif

Midge would be an asset now. Our midfield is too static and just wants to offload the ball.

Nice to see St Johnstone value him even if some of our fans are indulging in the usual 'kick his c*nt in for leaving' crap! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 20:06:12 I reckon that the stereotype of any profession generally has a fair bit of inbuilt accuracy. Doctors, for example as usually seen as a bit aloof, unapproachable, and having an exaggerated opinion of their value to society, and I reckon that's not far off the mark for a good proportion.

Teachers are often perceived as having gone from school to 'Uni' and back to school, and to exist in something of a pupil and teacher occupied microcosm. There are 'hunners' of teachers in my extended family, and I find that quite true of many of them.

Lawyers tend to be non gregarious money grabbers with stiff upper lips and polished shoes who, like teachers, feel most at home among their own kind.

There are many stereotypes of course-I'm sure the stereotype for a good shag must include big boobs, a short skirt, 'f*ck me' boots, and a 'come-on' smile, with seamed stockings an optional extra!

Anyway-I'm trying to start a bloody thread before this effin forum dies a death! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 20:56:45
QUOTE(C B @ Aug 10 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]492587[/snapback]
Its not as if Andy is available for selection??? You'll have to explain yourself better than that blink.gif

If he's fit enough to do the prize draw, he's fit enough to perform as he did! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 21:00:23
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 10 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]492593[/snapback]
Are they complaining he didn't do more against us ? If he had a stormer they would be pillaring him for never giving 90 minutes when he was with us .
Talkabout fickle . Scott McLaughlin will be having a field day

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mortonjag 2008-08-10 21:03:03
QUOTE(C B @ Aug 10 2008, 07:49 PM) [snapback]492586[/snapback]
Very droll dry.gif

I always do my best CB!

Ten minutes of Big Andy is worth millions of 'From the Chairman's desks'.
mortonjag 2008-08-10 21:22:47
QUOTE(forza ton @ Aug 10 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]492611[/snapback]
yer still s***e at those mj. u just aint got the beat.

happy birthday folks!!!! smile.gif



There was an old man from Calcutta
Who had a t terrible stutter
At breakfast he said
Pas the b b b bread
And the b b b b b b butter! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 21:29:31
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Aug 10 2008, 09:24 PM) [snapback]492616[/snapback]
Definately faction.

50/50?
mortonjag 2008-08-11 06:56:42
QUOTE(leyTON @ Aug 10 2008, 10:20 PM) [snapback]492637[/snapback]
i can think who is now MJ unless shimmin will take the mantle

I used to see Jimbo as arguably our 'best' player for the following reasons

1/ His application and energy

2/ His effectiveness

3/ His potential

It seems that he's either been 'found out' by the first division, or there's something not right.

Number 1 is still in place-he's our fittest player and deserves credit for that.

Number 2 has become something of a lottery-he blows hot and cold, and recently has been constantly off the boil.

Number 3 has become a puzzle-the potential still SEEMS there, but is he now flattering to deceive?

For several reasons I can now think of a good half dozen players whom I'd rate as 'better'.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 07:00:57
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 11 2008, 12:11 AM) [snapback]492679[/snapback]
According to gmfc.net we haven't played any games yet? unsure.gif

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That's shocking-who made this inaccurate statement? If I were you I'd e-mail 'The Club' and clype to him immediately.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 07:08:11
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 10 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]492631[/snapback]
Jim I asked that very question at the Q+A . The response wasn't exactly positive . Why not even approach the Telegraph or even sell raffle tickets again this should have been addressed in the summer .

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QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Aug 10 2008, 11:50 PM) [snapback]492668[/snapback]
any of you who think the club is right to charge youth players £3 is a fool! its a no brainer as to the type of mentality that losses us players to celtic , rangers, aberdeen, kilmarnock, st mirren etc. Go to morton and have to pay £3 on top of any travel expenses or go to one of the above or another , dont pay £3 and perhaps get travel expenses! Why £3 ? For strips?

It is another example of the Scrooge mentality of our leader.

QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Aug 10 2008, 11:59 PM) [snapback]492671[/snapback]
I played for Saint Andrews BC and payed every week.

I was also in the Beavers, Cubs and Scouts and I payed every week.

I am now in a pipe band and I pay subs money every month.

Each of the not for profit organisations I have mentioned above allowed me to use their facilities for fitba or whatever, and as a result I payed (pay) a very minimal cost to the running of such organisations.

Only fair

Indeed-and I can't escape the irony of your 'not for profit' comment! Once the club is run efficiently we'll be profitable without having to discourage local talent with cynical penny pinching for the sake of a couple of grand p.a., while handing out 33% wage rises and long contracts to mediocre players.

I've alluded before to the fact that Fr. Rae thinks the fans have an obligation to the club. That must be the archetype of 'pot, kettle, and black'! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 07:24:00
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Aug 10 2008, 11:19 PM) [snapback]492659[/snapback]
In the good old days, Ritchie and Hutchieson could be on that quick the fag burns would still be smouldering on their Morton tops.

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That's true-I blame DI for the goal-he should definitely be handing out free fags to the players! smile.gif

I've rarely heard such a pathetic gripe. It's five minutes till half time, and we're playing quite well. He's obviously happy with the shape of the defence and wants Walker back on. He's FORCED to wait until others decide how bad the knock is, and makes the correct decision to sub him as soon as that's apparent to him.

I actually blame Douglas Rae for both Saints goals. I can't think of a good excuse yet but I'll soon find a better one than blaming DI! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 07:28:42
QUOTE(larmton @ Aug 11 2008, 12:30 AM) [snapback]492691[/snapback]
sounds brilliant.
how do i get in? huh.gif

PM Ton in Dublin or Boozehound provided you're eighteen or over and don't mind Mortonjag calling you a POUFFE!
mortonjag 2008-08-11 07:41:59
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 10 2008, 09:53 PM) [snapback]492630[/snapback]
The fish themselves I wouldn't even attempt to try (don't like fish aside from smoked Haddock, and VERY occasionally Mackerel) but Worcestershire sauce is really good!

I was surprised to discover that anchovy is an ingredient-and the poster who despises baked beans should try them on toast, grilled under a layer of grated mature cheddar and seasoned with black pepper and Worcestershire sauce. thumbup2.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 07:47:32
QUOTE(leyTON @ Aug 10 2008, 10:10 PM) [snapback]492632[/snapback]
can i ask MJ if you dislike me as much as VT?

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For all I know you ARE VT!


I don't dislike any of our posters (though I've reason to believe I'd dislike a few once I'd had a chance to meet them in person)!

Others have said VT's a decent young lad, and I've no reason to disbelieve them.

VT knows very well why mortonjag appears to dislike him, and the remedy rests with the former! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 07:51:58
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 10 2008, 12:26 PM) [snapback]492366[/snapback]
Will be aye, play in Lomond and Clyde pipe band smile.gif



I hope you have not been telling Fains of Mintry pipe band, that you play in a proper one! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 07:56:42
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Aug 10 2008, 11:43 PM) [snapback]492665[/snapback]
Checked the link and ended up on this one!! - Kyle with no knickers on!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=P8vfioesdro&...feature=related

Some women will sink to the depths of depravity to sell their wares!

Do you have a link to the full concert? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 08:00:43
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Aug 11 2008, 12:51 AM) [snapback]492704[/snapback]
All in agreement so far...

NOT NOW!

I just voted to see what others were saying-I don't understand why anybody would eat beaver-they're nearly as bad as skunks.

Having said that, I guess there must be beavers and beavers. If I was starving I might eat beaver if it wasn't too smelly.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 08:07:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 11 2008, 07:53 AM) [snapback]492731[/snapback]
Did Sugar Rae play in goal ?

No he was a sweeper in the sweetie factory............................................................................ team.

QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Aug 11 2008, 08:00 AM) [snapback]492734[/snapback]
Jeezo MJ you are really slipping up here - how about Shoogly always interferes with team matters - no substitution could actually be made until DI has submitted the appropriate Fudgy Wudgy Formy in triplicate to Golden Casket, receiving a reply that at best was incomprehensible, running it by jim McInally at East Stirling, and then having to shout up to the Directors box for permission. In fact given the previous I am surprised that we actually got a sub on before half time....as for the other goal it is obviously his fault that Saints got C.Miller on a pre-contract and therefore scored first as DDF picked the team that included S.Greacen who fired the ball off a Sainty for a score rolleyes.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Will you please stop using the highlighted term. The Chairman is known as Duncan Douglas Faulds Rae, and from now on I expect him to be described as such.

Such has much to answer for.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 08:21:25
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 9 2008, 01:10 PM) [snapback]491922[/snapback]
alastair donald's date of appointment on form 288a is given as 1 July 2008.

the egm share issue resolutions specify a period of 5 years.

perhaps moronjag can remind us of the significance of the word 'designated'?

Yes Alistair-Mr Donald became a designated Director of Greenock Morton on 23rd July 2008!

I'm interested to note from your good self that he was not appointed to the club's Board of Directors until 1st July.

I presume that until then, the 'Tilly splurge' and subsequent speculation was slightly misleading.

Why was he not appointed by the club till 1st July, when he's been listed as a Director in the Official match Programme since February? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 08:29:40
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Aug 9 2008, 06:46 PM) [snapback]492025[/snapback]
MJ that is just bad manners...I expected better biggrin.gif

You are of course, correct.

When in Rome one must do as the Romans.

If I go to Rome I shall indeed stand erect for the Pope.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 08:33:10
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 11 2008, 08:12 AM) [snapback]492739[/snapback]
I wont ever see them. They tend to only do gala days and the likes.
..and the Olympics ceremony. laugh.gif

No doubt they will believe they ARE now a proper pipe band! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 08:39:33
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 11 2008, 08:34 AM) [snapback]492749[/snapback]
How does one define a proper pipe band though?

Same way one defines a proper university....personal opinion wink.gif

So this WAS an opinion:


Fains of Mintry pipe band, very sh1te I might add too!!

Now I am more confused than ever. I know nothing about pipe bands, so I defer to your superior knowledge. I expect FACTS,and all I get is opinion dressed as fact!


If there's anything you need to know about proper Universities BTW, I'm yer man! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 09:08:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 11 2008, 08:36 AM) [snapback]492750[/snapback]
Does the Pope go to Rome to see the football ?

I thought he had his own wee state.

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Joe Mason was one of our best forwards. In that respect Masons have been good for Morton.

I don't know if the Pope is into football-the last one (Artur if I recall) played in goals.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 09:14:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 11 2008, 08:44 AM) [snapback]492753[/snapback]
Ok, when they actually do compete in competitions they compete in the very lowest grade available for an adult pipe band.

I have looked up their results.

They haven't competed this year.

2007, in the lowest grade, they came last at the two competition they played at and in 2006 came second last in 2 competitions and last in the other.

None of these being major championships.

So my opinion is not dressed as fact but actually backed up with it.
If you think I'm some SPARROT then think again happy.gif

Quoting your sources frees you from plagiarism young man!

I'm concerned though that Fains of Mintry may view those adjudicators in the same way that devotees of improper universities view performance league tables.

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 11 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]492757[/snapback]
Oh and I'm surprised no one picked up my first mistake.

It's actually Mains of Fintry Pipe Band laugh.gif

I thought you were deliberately takin' the piss. Your Clomond and Llyde crowd have won the Welsh Championships I believe!
mortonjag 2008-08-11 10:06:19
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Aug 11 2008, 09:29 AM) [snapback]492767[/snapback]
On our first league home game of the season little over 2000 home fans turned up, probably at least a few hundred of which came from outside Inverclyde. And Inverclyde has a population of over 80,000. There's undoubtedly more football fans from this area travelling to watch the OF every week, and countless more armchair OF fans.

So here's my question: If the community does not support the football club, then how is the football club meant to support the community?

That's not a question, it's a conundrum!

The football club should not need to SUPPORT the community. If it wishes to increase its support FROM the community, it should reverse the current 'us and them' siege mentality, communicate information freely with the fans via its website and the local media, and ENCOURAGE promising local youngsters to favour Morton over other sides.

Public Relations at Cappielow are fragmented to the point of non existence. There appears to be NO internal communication system whatsoever.

More criticism of the Club? Aye indeed, and I don't believe things will improve materially until a 'new broom' is found.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 10:14:56
QUOTE(Cawston @ Aug 11 2008, 10:08 AM) [snapback]492780[/snapback]
Sums it up for me.

Talented player but not influential enough to really miss.

I wish him well in Perth but at the same time I'm quite happy that DI seems to have put an end to the lightweight midfield problem that we've had since, well...forever.

Oh don't worry-it won't be long before DI is getting pelters for his big immobile midfield.

It's staring me in the face that we have little creativity-nobody wants to hold the ball, let alone run with it. Chris Millar would complement our current midfield quite nicely IMO.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 10:20:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 11 2008, 10:08 AM) [snapback]492779[/snapback]
Has anyone seen SmithsTON ?

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Don't worry about Anus, Newt. He'll produce some crappy answer in due course.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 10:25:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 11 2008, 09:22 AM) [snapback]492763[/snapback]
One Mason does not a wall make.
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......nor one raisin a Christmas Pudding.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 10:28:44
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 11 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]492762[/snapback]
*sigh*

RSPBA.org

Go into results and use the band selector from 2007 and 2006 and you will find Mains of Fintry Pipe Band.

And your smart-arseness doesn't work in pipe bands as the current Scottish and British champions are from Dublin smile.gif

I had ALREADY excused you as you explained you WERE quoting-daftie!

Anyway, which of the two bands is more proper?
mortonjag 2008-08-11 11:10:06
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 11 2008, 09:23 AM) [snapback]492764[/snapback]
I dont blame you, i wouldn't go near a beaver your age either.

I'd imagine a beaver of my age would be a skeleton.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 11:15:20
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 11 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]492795[/snapback]
It still all comes down to opinions. Competition results would say us.

Also, I am not taking anything away from the band. It must have been absolutely brilliant to be out there and be part of something like that. I once done the opening of the Special Olympics at Parkhead in my old band and even that was a great day.

I just thought for something like that, seeing as expenses would be getting paid and the likes, they would have went for a much more sought-after, well known pipe band. And I don't mean my own...I mean one far superior to it. Was quite surprised is all.

Well done to them for it!
...lucky bassas laugh.gif

Jelly sea!
mortonjag 2008-08-11 11:18:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 11 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]492803[/snapback]
How do lamb's brains compare with monkey brains ?

I have only had monkey brains once in Bali and I think they may have been overcooked.



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mortonjag 2008-08-11 11:25:07
QUOTE(leyTON @ Aug 11 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]492806[/snapback]
just because you have hinted before you dont mind me, but i tick the boxes of anger in you VT does. as far as i know he and i have similar exam results, and are going to do a similar course at the same improper university

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....in which case you are surely bright enough to realise that this has nothing to do with exam results or universities-proper or otherwise.

Read my post 70 for a little guidance to my true perception of 'Academia'!

I detest academic snobbery, particularly in the pseudo form of infantile plagiarism.

THAT is my problem with SPARROT! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 11:29:49
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 11 2008, 10:43 AM) [snapback]492797[/snapback]
McAnespie is a waster.

Undoubtedly a talented guy, capable of making a real impact but doesn't seem to have the desire to do it. It's too easy to sit on the sidelines taking a wage when it's well within his ability to play, and play well, in this division.

Morton would be much better off without him.

I've heard this accusation several times.If it's such common knowledge, why ever was he signed?
mortonjag 2008-08-11 11:35:12
QUOTE(Cawston @ Aug 11 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]492788[/snapback]
I was surprised at how low the crowd was, I was expecting another 1000 on the attendance esp being the first home game of the season.

Hopefully a couple of wins on the bounce will get the crowds out.


The 'feel good factor' has gone for the time being. Good performances will get it back hopefully.
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Aug 11 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]492804[/snapback]
This is nonsense. Morton lay on free transport to away games either by the Club Minibus or coach (for longer journeys) Get your facts right before posting irresponsible drivel like this. mad.gif

You'd never post irresponsible drivel, Anus! laugh.gif

QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Aug 11 2008, 11:08 AM) [snapback]492807[/snapback]
why should disabled people HAVE to sit in the disabled area ??? the reduced rate is NOT for the area,it is for the fact that the person has a dissability, so why should they pay extra just because they want to go into the ground ??
ffs disabled people have more often than not financial burdens that us able bodied people dont have, the fact that clubs are giving them reduced rates is something we should be PROUD of not moaning about..or does the thought of seeing someone less fortunate than yourself, (through no fault of their own) getting a wee helping hand, get right up your capatalistic nose ?

In general terms I agree. Disabled people are inevitably disadvantaged. Mr Murrayhun might disagree, mind you! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 11:40:01
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Aug 11 2008, 11:34 AM) [snapback]492818[/snapback]
I'd REALLY love to hear what people think about truck drivers...don't hold back! unsure.gif

Swashbuckling jack the lads who are never averse to the wee fly shag in the cab! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 12:01:05
QUOTE(CJTon @ Jun 27 2008, 11:26 PM) [snapback]467936[/snapback]
Mortonjag

Told you that it was just an administrative issue. AD is a thoroughly decent chap with local roots and an asset to GMFC. He may have a passion for one of the old firm but he has also seen to have passion for the Ton too.

Maybe about time you were a bit more positive about the club now that you have been given the information by Crawford.

Cheers

Why was Mr Donald not appointed a Director until July 1st? The club has been touting him as a Director since January. If it was just an administrative issue, why was the appointment not backdated?

It seems clear that Mr Donald WAS NOT a Director until July 1st, OR, if he was, why has he apparently lied to Companies House about the date of his appointment? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 12:15:22
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 11 2008, 11:56 AM) [snapback]492832[/snapback]
Don't you ever read the chairman's desk ?? tongue.gif

I do-have I missed something. Is he a Fudgy Wudgy addict?
mortonjag 2008-08-11 12:18:25
QUOTE(suda @ Aug 11 2008, 12:09 PM) [snapback]492838[/snapback]
when the club Doctor comes onto the park ands strechers off a player it's obvious he's not coming back on. At that point we should of had McManus waiting to come on, he was pissing about putting shinpads and a shirt on he should of been stripped and waiting to go. It's a mistake that hopefully won't be repeated.

That makes absolutely no sense to me. I've often seen players stretchered off, only to return a few minutes later after a proper examination's been made!
mortonjag 2008-08-11 16:15:36
QUOTE(suda @ Aug 11 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]492850[/snapback]
when the doctor comes on the park it usually means the injury is more serious and the Physio has called the doctor on. In this case Walker was heavily concussed and was obviously taking no further part. Either way McManus should of been ready to go on, required or not he should of been prepared.

I'm not arguing the rights and wrongs of McManus being apparently unprepared-if he should have been and was not-SOMEBODY'S to blame.

I'm merely calling in question those who are attempting to second guess the time it should have taken to properly assess Walker's injury, with comments like 'it was obvious' etc., etc.

For what it's worth, I got a very good view of the incident, and he certainly appeared to be instantly K.O.'d, so it PROBABLY should have been obvious he shouldn't continue!
mortonjag 2008-08-11 16:22:26
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 11 2008, 02:14 PM) [snapback]492894[/snapback]
We were unlucky against Clyde but you have to take your chances!! Having said that, most of us would have settled for a point at Broadwood followed by a point from St Johnstone.

The real test is next week against Livvy at Cappielow. If we are to have a decent season or even realistically expect not to be in a relegation battle, thats the sort of game we must win. Championships are won by winning your home games and averaging a point away from home.

I still have strong reservations about our squad and options, but none about our performances so far.

I said before yesterday's game I'd settle for a draw, and we MIGHT just have taken three points. I didn't see the Broadwood game, but understand we were miles ahead, so we COULD currently be heading up the league! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 16:25:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 10 2008, 05:04 AM) [snapback]492259[/snapback]
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to control the cost of toilet paper ??

Nope-to make sure his is always the cleanest.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 16:31:20 We couldn't have done better-I reckon we'll be this years cup tie side-hard to beat, and liable to provide a few surprises!

If we lose (as the bookies will predict) it's still plenty of lovely 'munny' for 'The Club'! bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif

Maybe the Chairman will buy us a winger!
mortonjag 2008-08-11 16:46:38
QUOTE(larmton @ Aug 11 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]492839[/snapback]
oh
im 18 or over laugh.gif
and u go ahead and do that

Can you first confirm that no other member of your family will be upset at my likening you to soft furniture?
mortonjag 2008-08-11 16:53:15
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 11 2008, 12:18 PM) [snapback]492843[/snapback]
I'd like to see evidence of said plagiarism, so I can acknowledge the blatant primary sources from which I developed said opinion. blush.gif

Let's call a truce!

I agree to alert you you each time you appear to be proffering others' thoughts and opinions as if your own. I won't even call you SPARROT again until you do!

In return you will accept that I am always correct, unless you can provide incontrovertible evidence in contention. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 16:56:51
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 11 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]492947[/snapback]
Masons? Pfft. Remember the brotherhood of Wanquee is still alive and well. Ain't that right Stuart?

What happened to the Wanquees BH? Maybe they would do better as Jesse boys!
mortonjag 2008-08-11 17:01:22 ph34r.gif dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 17:06:54
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 11 2008, 03:28 PM) [snapback]492941[/snapback]
You will note that my superior intellect allowed me to foresee someone hitting me with s***ey homophobic patter, hence the reason I specified I was the best only at things worth being the best at. So, in short, yes I am.

HA-it was jealousy then when you banned the best wee knob sooker in Inverclyde!
mortonjag 2008-08-11 17:09:24
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 11 2008, 04:42 PM) [snapback]492979[/snapback]
I always use Ryanair, they're cheaper.

I'll get my jaikit.

TonInDublin

Ryandee only charges me 50p a sook!
mortonjag 2008-08-11 17:42:06
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 11 2008, 05:28 PM) [snapback]493001[/snapback]
Serves him right for wearing that Union flag...

Mr McArthur and the Brits will be gutted! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 17:46:55
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 11 2008, 05:40 PM) [snapback]493004[/snapback]
I flashed my elegant French headlights at a dinky boy racer Saab convertible when immediately behind said ve-hic-cule on Saturday leaving Cappielow - Iwas immediately behind in queue to turn onto Gibbshill Road. Said vehicle had a number plate which left me in no doubt as to the occupant but he treated me with the usual disdain and ignored my friendly overtures!

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I think at that stage I was distracted as my brother had de-tuned the radio and I wanted the 'footie'. I don't normally ignore flashers! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 17:51:17
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 11 2008, 05:43 PM) [snapback]493006[/snapback]
Link to the story, as am in the dark here

I heard it on Five Live. Superbrat succumbs in straight sets to unknown from outer Mongolia or thereabouts!

Maybe if he'd been playing for his country and not Britain he'd have tried a bit harder! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 17:59:10
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 11 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]493009[/snapback]
To be fair, we were playing a different formation from what we have played in all of pre season and all our competitive matches thus far. We badly missed Wake - not for his particular ability but rather that we could not play the formation that has worked well for us so far. Newby and Russell are not the answer as a pairing upfront as both need a hold up man to play off, especially Newby - but put Wake into a front three and the whole thing becomes more dangerous.

I think thats where our squad is thin in the extreme - we have no cover upfront at all and if there is one more signing before the window shuts, I hope its a forward.

I don't agree that we are not creative enough. We've scored 9 goals in our first three competitive game and in the two league games we've had a fair number of chances beyond those we actually converted.

I agree about Wakey-I can't believe he was SO bad for the first wee while we had him.

We desperately missed him on Saturday, but please note our 'creativity' rarely comes from midfield-rather Newbs and Iain are effectively doubling as wingers. It has worked quite well so far, but we definitely need more options. Jenkins may give us more drive through the middle but at least one 'winger' would make us much more potent as a strike force.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 18:32:29
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Aug 11 2008, 06:28 PM) [snapback]493025[/snapback]
really glad we signed cuthbert and shimmin as I feel that both areas needed strengthening. the defence and midfield now has strength in depth and we have 2 experienced goalkeepers to scrap for the no.1 jersey.
I'd still like to see another striker come in. Andy Kirk would've been a cracking signing for us. Also heard Calum Elliot was going out on loan. Can't really think of any other possible strikers at the mo.
Thoughts?

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mortonjag 2008-08-11 18:38:01 I notice that Fr. Rae has appointed Rev. Dave Hall as official Club Chaplain. Presumably if things are not going as planned, he'll put in a good word for us upstairs.


I feel a bit saddened that The Rev. Hall's services were not available to Jim McInally.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 18:42:49
QUOTE(centralTON @ Aug 11 2008, 06:36 PM) [snapback]493031[/snapback]
Or....fifteen minutes with you.....MJ. wink.gif

15 mins with mortonjag would convince the last few doubters that he is indeed a remarkable creature! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 18:50:41
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Aug 11 2008, 06:12 PM) [snapback]493017[/snapback]
I think it was Chinese Taipei, son.

anyway, well done to the ''Murray brothers'' on coming from a set behind to go through to the next round of the doubles.

That's what I thought-Outer Mongolia or threreabouts!

QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 11 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]493036[/snapback]
He had far more chance of winning a medal in the doubles than the singles anyway so this first round exit will be the best thing that could have happened for him.

You reckon he 'threw it'. That's certainly in the true spirit of the Olympics. I say he got humpt, and he and his not quite so super brat brother will get humpt too! bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 18:54:10
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Aug 11 2008, 06:43 PM) [snapback]493039[/snapback]
McInally spoke to God by himself. God agreed to help out, but only if he could play in the centre of midfield. The next game, McInally in his infinite wisdom played him at left back and was therefore told to f*** off by the almighty

Not QUITE right-JM frequently gave God wee shots at picking the team.

Anyway, which denomination does this Holy Willie represent, and will our multicultural squad all be rushing to his feet for regular blessings?
mortonjag 2008-08-11 18:56:59
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 11 2008, 06:51 PM) [snapback]493045[/snapback]
Pedantry alert!
You'd find no such thing on the balance sheet unless the expenses are in arrears. blush.gif

Now you may all go back to your daily business.

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My partner bought a new vallance sheet yesterday, and we NEVER go into the red! blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 19:00:32
QUOTE(centralTON @ Aug 11 2008, 06:57 PM) [snapback]493048[/snapback]
Agree laugh.gif , BTW do you sit at the behind me in B section of the Stand?

I have this vision of what you look like and there is someone who fits my image of you, behind me. If it's ,you feel free to say hi. I sit beside my boy and am the one with the Suedehead. wink.gif

I don't think so-I get confused with the section numbers but we normally sit within farting distance of Fr. Rae-I might add that we sit BEHIND him! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 19:15:37
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 11 2008, 06:24 PM) [snapback]493024[/snapback]
If ye can't fry it, don't eat it !

No ice cream for Spurtle!
mortonjag 2008-08-11 19:48:41
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 11 2008, 07:30 PM) [snapback]493065[/snapback]
I am shocked that there is another diety at Cappielow . Perhaps it was the intervention of Alistair
Donald who has insisted on a much higher stature than Sugar Rae .

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Oh dear- with Mr Donald being a Hunster we must surely assume that this new member of staff is a prodigod-I had been thinking that in this secular age maybe a 'Chaplain' is something of an anachronism, but who knows--

perhaps he will perform functions I haven't imagined-helping Andy Pandy mend the holey strips, lending his dog collar to Fr. Rae for the hospitality sermons, visiting the sick and ailing relatives of the squad-there must be hundreds of uses for a Football Club Chaplain in 2008.

Mind you, with the pace of change those days, to say nothing of the credit crunch, I hope he hasn't been given a long contract.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 19:54:25
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 11 2008, 07:34 PM) [snapback]493070[/snapback]
Ach well..not everyone is as familiar with the terms so just making sure we were on the right track wink.gif

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That's the style young man. If you're sure of your facts, let others benefit from your knowledge!

One caveat-they won't listen. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 19:58:38
QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 11 2008, 07:28 PM) [snapback]493064[/snapback]
I didn't say I reckoned that he "threw it" at all. Just that in the end I reckon he will look back at the first round singles elimination and say that that aided him in winning the doubles gold smile.gif

Mummy can always melt it down to pay for her next botox treatment.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 20:08:03 I've had many a danger walk, but fortunately never came to much harm. Top floor flats up unlit s*** strewn closes in Feegie used to make me a bit nervy, as did 'tinker' caravan sites with more Rotweilers/Alsatians than residents. Perhaps the worst of all was up the aisle-the danger was well disguised at the time.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 20:15:54
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 11 2008, 07:55 PM) [snapback]493079[/snapback]
We'll do well to take 1000.

2000 is pie in the sky mate for a Tuesday night in the 2nd round of a diddy cup.

Motherwell was a Saturday, after a massive home victory in the last 16 of the Scottish Cup.

Aye-right son-we had, if I re-call, 106,000 at Hampden for the final of your 'diddy' cup. We NEED good cup runs this year, and we NEED some belief-not negativity boys! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 11 2008, 07:56 PM) [snapback]493080[/snapback]
Wouldn't say it's pie in the sky. We brought a right good crowd to Tannadice a few years ago and Edinburgh's certainly more accessible from Greenock.

Nothing would surprise me. Take the last game of last season-WTF did they all come from?
We'll get between 2000 and 3000 through!
mortonjag 2008-08-11 20:21:43
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Aug 11 2008, 08:15 PM) [snapback]493085[/snapback]
What the f*** is tennis doing at the olympics anyway. Sport for nonces.

Indeed, and WTF are professionals allowed to compete at at amateur event? dry.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 20:40:41
QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 11 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]493094[/snapback]
The Olympics would have died long ago if they hadn't let professionals compete.

....best thing that could have happened to the political showcase.

QUOTE(briggsTON @ Aug 11 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]493095[/snapback]
It hasn't been an amateur event for many years.

I believe that's one reason why it's now a non event.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 20:46:58
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 11 2008, 08:17 PM) [snapback]493089[/snapback]
Was more just giving our wee SPARROT a hand in the explanation rather than sharing my knowledge...as I will probably get shown up rather quickly!

He's my wee VikingTON again! He's a good chap.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 20:49:19
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 11 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]493098[/snapback]
Regrettably, at my age, I have little left to flash other than my headlights!

F*ck!!

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PS Radio Scotland went missing for about 10 minutes around 4:55pm I was seriously worried I would miss the Morton match report!

Indeed-we were effin' ragin' but it came on again JUST in time! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 20:52:24
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 11 2008, 08:41 PM) [snapback]493105[/snapback]
I think the older you get i.e. the closer shuffling off the mortal coil & all that, the more religion seems like something you've missed in your life. Me, I don't approve of that medieval sh1t even if I am getting to the doubting age ! I don't mind its adherents doing their own thing - they might be right and I am wrong - but I hate it when its shoved down everyone else's throat!

Will Kieran McAnespie be in breach of contract the first time he misses morning prayers?
mortonjag 2008-08-11 20:57:35
QUOTE(giz @ Aug 11 2008, 12:33 PM) [snapback]492848[/snapback]
In aid of MacMillan Cancer care

Morton supporters club

Friday 22nd August 2008

Question & answer session

Bill Leckie
Des McKeown
Davie Irons

7.30pm til late

Admission £5

All travel sections/clubs will receive some tickets so please contact one of them or myself if you would like to attend

cheers

John

Question for Bill and Des-will you be giving our cup tie against Hibs coverage in your columns, and if not, why not? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 07:00:53
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 11 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]493122[/snapback]
Are you coming through to Greenock for this Fundraiser ??

Given that this will be a GENUINE Q & A 'rally', and not a 'Come and be ignored/insulted by a dithering old Fud' show, I am contemplating a visit, Willy Man! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 07:07:13
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Aug 12 2008, 12:30 AM) [snapback]493216[/snapback]
Damn I wish I had have done some trivial accounts course or mickey mouse degree after I left school instead of opting for a real job!

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QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 12 2008, 12:34 AM) [snapback]493220[/snapback]
Or you could have did it at school then got the "real" job. happy.gif

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QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 12 2008, 12:55 AM) [snapback]493226[/snapback]
Don't make me get the stats out...

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mortonjag 2008-08-12 07:32:50
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 11 2008, 09:40 PM) [snapback]493147[/snapback]
A chaplain is all well and good, but where is the Catholic, Jewish or miscellaneous alternative? Time to go Dougie! ph34r.gif

I'm not sure to which particular brand of holiness Rev. Dave belongs. Surely our posters must know who he is!!!

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 12 2008, 01:22 AM) [snapback]493233[/snapback]
This is a wind-up, right? unsure.gif

Not the Chaplain part-his post may of course be wholly voluntary to avoid admission charges. Like its mice, church men are poor. God loves a trier!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 07:44:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 12 2008, 04:04 AM) [snapback]493238[/snapback]
Gidday VaderTon,

Would that be Benny Mussolini ?

Was he related to Benny Hill or Chuck Benny ?

I think he played for Inter Milan during La Grande Inter from 1960 to 1968.

Under that great coach, Helenio Herrera, and they won the European Cup against Real Madrid and then Benfica.

There was report in the Telegraph that Benny Ronney tried to sign Benny Mussolini, when he retired from Serie A, but in the 1970s there were not enough Tally restaurants in Greenock, to satisfy Mussolini.

(My apologies if Tally is politically incorrect these days.)

There was Tally who sold great ice cream in 1960 in Roxburgh Street, not far from Sugar Rae's wee sweetie shop.

Those were the days.

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The two Tally restaurants in Kilmacolm were Baldi's, and Jannetta's (Jonnie's).

Baldi's was a better coffee house and Jonnie made better ice cream.

There's still a traditional Tally ice-cream parlour round the corner here-Newlands Cafe-which I recommend highly. It has retained all the old characteristics, including the fags/cigars, specialist chocolate bars, and jars of sweeties. When you order ice cream, they still ask if you want 'raspberry' on it. They're open from early morning till about ten p.m. I don't know how they make a living with the surrounding competition, but good luck to them!
mortonjag 2008-08-12 07:53:55
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 12 2008, 04:10 AM) [snapback]493240[/snapback]
more importantly, did someone apparently lie about his taking 40% of the share issue ?
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The share issue was officially registered at Companies house exactly a week before Mr Donald was appointed a director of the Club. mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 08:02:58
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 12 2008, 07:44 AM) [snapback]493256[/snapback]
laugh.gif Maybe they'll take a collection, after the hymn singing of course. 'What a friend I have in Jesus, He's a Morton fan like me'.

I feel a parody coming on!
mortonjag 2008-08-12 08:06:05
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 12 2008, 07:38 AM) [snapback]493255[/snapback]
Then you must make yourself known as I'm sure lots of folk will be interested in meeting you. biggrin.gif Me for one.

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QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 12 2008, 07:54 AM) [snapback]493261[/snapback]
laugh.gif Maybe he should stay incognito, he might steal the show otherwise.

If I attend, I shall be sure not to bring the Monkey and Fing, and I shall disguise myself suitably!
mortonjag 2008-08-12 08:10:19 Their small fan base has every right to relish what may be their biggest achievement all season.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 08:20:10
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 11 2008, 09:29 PM) [snapback]493131[/snapback]
Nowt to do with me. As they say on 'Dragon's Den', "I'm out".

I'm a former tennis player and a fan and I know that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

WTF is it Dragon's DEN! unsure.gif Dragons fly-everybody knows fliers nestle.

I have an absolutely clear idea that I'm talking about- a 'Vaulting Ambition' exhibition at Wombledung, which went slightly awry, perhaps not quite o'er leaping itself.

The Brits won't be too chuffed if those latter day Grecian gymnastics DO mean a jot or tittle in the real world!

QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 12 2008, 04:18 AM) [snapback]493242[/snapback]
Come on mortonjag, surely you don't believe that the gold medals are made of gold.

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It's a TOTAL sham then! Fing told me that, but the Monkey disagreed.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 08:25:17
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 12 2008, 12:00 AM) [snapback]493210[/snapback]
That site is complete bollocks - not too dissimilar to many of Nostradamus' "predictions".
Its a bit simplistic to take current events and contort them to fit 500 year-old vague quatrains.

I like simplicity-particularly in the use of plain English! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 08:28:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 12 2008, 04:31 AM) [snapback]493246[/snapback]
There seems to be bugger all interest in Beijing.

I expect London will be an even greater waste of money.

Saturday's Herald Weekend Sport devoted several pages to the bloody Wollympic Games and didn't even MENTION a single SFL match.

I have told the sports editor what I think of him. ph34r.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 08:32:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 12 2008, 04:24 AM) [snapback]493244[/snapback]
Gidday Trick,

I didn't know that you could ride.

Do you have your own horse ?

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Trick only rides as a hobby.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 08:51:45
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 12 2008, 08:13 AM) [snapback]493273[/snapback]
Take your medication then. Anyway, you started it. biggrin.gif

I took it-I'm going to Limerick instead.

Apparently Rev. David Hall
Met DDFR in the Mall
Adorned in Ton scarf
The rest makes me barf
Indeed I have now heard it all!
mortonjag 2008-08-12 08:56:58
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 12 2008, 08:51 AM) [snapback]493283[/snapback]
We had around 2,000 at Tannadice and Edinburgh's far easier to get to and Hibs are more appealing. 2,000's a conservative estimate. What planet are you on, Piehutt? blink.gif

Uranus (heid up).
mortonjag 2008-08-12 09:02:12
QUOTE(Staples @ Aug 12 2008, 08:37 AM) [snapback]493281[/snapback]
sorry if its not allowed to post this link im interested in peoples opinions?
http://www.scottishindependenceconvention.com/index.asp

I want it and I want it NOW!

PS-Bawheid is a tosser.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 09:49:12
QUOTE(HamCam @ Aug 11 2008, 09:46 PM) [snapback]493155[/snapback]
Tut tut paper clip warrier hibernation not hybernation. This also accords with the CIS draw.

Anyhows I have now emerged from the cryogenic chamber a new me. No more pithy comments and puerile humour just mature reasoned debate on the main issues that affect the world today. Must go now to start a thread on sustainability or maybe erectile dysfunction in goats not sure yet.



of?

within?
mortonjag 2008-08-12 09:54:07
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 12 2008, 09:34 AM) [snapback]493291[/snapback]
Interesting, there's nine teachers in my department.

Only one did the school, Uni, school route.

Dr Bam-not one of the teachers I know is a chemist, though many shop in Boots.

QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 12 2008, 09:36 AM) [snapback]493292[/snapback]
Boots or shoes?

Either-indeed one boot and one shoe for the unilateral below knee amputees.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 09:57:32
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 12 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]493296[/snapback]
And there we have a slogan for the next Labour leadership campaign...

HOVIS- the 'COMING HOME' bread! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 10:25:29
QUOTE(larmton @ Aug 11 2008, 11:05 PM) [snapback]493192[/snapback]
haha yes

LARMTON IS A POUFFE



I repeat!

LARMTON IS A POUFFE



...and in case those on POUFFE alert are dozy this morning.....



LARMTON IS A POUFFE


Indeed, Larmton is a three piece pouffe!


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mortonjag 2008-08-12 10:30:21
QUOTE(leyTON @ Aug 12 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]493304[/snapback]
i concur, and for the non edinburgh based
supporters buses leaving a while early, few pints
cant see a nightclub opening that early though :S

Night clubs by definition open late on, LeyTON.

ARU 18?

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mortonjag 2008-08-12 10:36:55
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 12 2008, 10:09 AM) [snapback]493299[/snapback]
A hobby horse then?

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I loved watching Perry Mason in the good old days of innocent entertainment when men were men, boys were boys, and a pouffe was something to rest your feet upon.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 11:03:28 I'm probably not allowed to comment as I'm not a film buff, but I really enjoyed 'The Love Bug'----that and 'Mrs Doubtfire', push slightly ahead of 'The Sound of Music'.

Tommy Steele was brilliant in 'Tommy the Toreador', and 'The Sting' has a very good theme choon.

I have NEVER watched a film for a second time, though I've often read the Bible.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 11:08:51
QUOTE(leyTON @ Aug 12 2008, 11:00 AM) [snapback]493325[/snapback]
i am aware of that, but as manager, scott would have considerable influence i would say
and i am, as of Sunday
i was only kidding midtons. Ill bring down Sweet Sixteen on dvd we can all watch the finale wink.gif

Bloody hell son-just turned eighteen and you have a personal manager. I like his name though-I have a son whose middle name is Scott.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 11:12:24
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 12 2008, 10:59 AM) [snapback]493324[/snapback]
Can't wait until the usual shout of get the subs on is replaced by bring on the Chaplain .

Pity he didn't come to the Renny Cup Final he could have dowse some holy water on the midden fans .

He was sitting beside Fr Rae at the shoot out, during which the former was touching cloth.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 12:45:36
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 12 2008, 11:06 AM) [snapback]493331[/snapback]
(adorns Morton blinkers ) Coincidence unsure.gif

Its nice to know Companies House has eventually got their paperwork sorted rolleyes.gif


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Just to clarify the details. The share issue was documented at Companies House on 24/06/08.

Mr Donald became a designated Director on 23/07/08, having stated his date of appointment as a Director as of 1/07/08.

That certainly leaves some unanswered questions, as Mr Donald revealed exclusively to the 'Tilly' in mid January than he had 'joined the Board', and from February has been listed as a Director on official Club publications.

So far as I'm led to believe, he could have stated an earlier date appointment with an explanation for the late submission of the statutory form 288a, which, in any case, could have been completed on line anywhere in the world , and forwarded, signed, to Companies House for manual processing!

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mortonjag 2008-08-12 12:55:43
QUOTE(leyTON @ Aug 12 2008, 11:48 AM) [snapback]493349[/snapback]
i am a busy man
Scott works alongside my agent, my pa and my personal trainer(who seems ineffective)

Do they have nice names too? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 13:05:23
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 12 2008, 11:34 AM) [snapback]493341[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif

Another good man taken .

Taken, abused, and discarded when no longer deemed an asset!

Things are better now! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 13:10:36 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I just realised Rev Dave is one of our esteemed posters! Could this be our new official Club Chaplain, and if so, has he signed the official secrets act (Scapa Version)? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 13:52:52 I reckon Kelvin Hall's definitely nearer-just go in through the University Gate on Dumbarton Rd., and you're virtually in the park.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 13:58:37 It's FAR too complex Chris. Every case is unique. Women should NOT be victimised simply because they were intoxicated.

There is, however, a downside, in that intoxicated women are less inhibited and may well send out messages which they subsequently regret.

Anyway, there's no simple black and white answer IMO.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 14:04:14
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Aug 12 2008, 01:54 PM) [snapback]493405[/snapback]
depends which side of the park you want to be at

kelvinbridge station is basically IN the park (far north of it) so I would say it is closer

although the best bit of the park is probably closer to the south

Surely not-it's on Great Western Road-how far North does the park extend?
mortonjag 2008-08-12 14:15:16
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Aug 12 2008, 01:18 PM) [snapback]493387[/snapback]
Seeing I've been gone for a while and this was the first time I'd seen a few players I was quite impressed.

Neither Cuthbert, Shimmin or McManus seem totally match fit. All a bit rusty but only Cuthbert concerned me with a few drops. But he gathered them all at the second attempt so I'm hoping he'll be fine in a week or two. Shimmin looks a bit slow but not afraid to take the ball down and look for a pass and McManus was always shouting, encouraging and all the things you expect an experienced centre back to do.

Masterton was great. His deliveries were s*** hot and seemed the only midfielder we had with the ability to pass the ball forwards. Big Erik was a bit disappointing but mopped up well. Newby made some stoating runs and I think he'd compliment anyone he played upfront with but his control always seemed to let the defenders get back into posistion while he took his time over every pass/shot he got away.

McGuffie's best game for Morton.

What did you think of Iain's performance?

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mortonjag 2008-08-12 14:17:41
QUOTE(centralTON @ Aug 12 2008, 01:30 PM) [snapback]493396[/snapback]
F.A.O. anyone driving to Stenny for the 'Shire game.
I've just driven through Larbert and there is bad traffic congestion on the A9 Larbert turnoff from the motorway roundabout. It would be better to take the A88 Stenhousemuir turnoff avoiding the jams.
The A9 road is the site of the new Forth Valley Hospital, work has been ongoing for a while and these things take time.
Hope this helps.

Cut off before Stenny and head to the Ground through Stenny Main Street?
mortonjag 2008-08-12 14:21:51
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Aug 12 2008, 02:16 PM) [snapback]493418[/snapback]
Was referring to religion wink.gif

Rev Dave may disagree!
mortonjag 2008-08-12 14:26:15
QUOTE(binnie @ Aug 12 2008, 02:20 PM) [snapback]493423[/snapback]
IS The Game Tonight

NO!!!



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mortonjag 2008-08-12 14:33:29
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Aug 12 2008, 02:08 PM) [snapback]493413[/snapback]
I understand where you are coming from but rape is rape.

That is correct- but the modus operandi, and the circumstances surrounding individual cases of 'rape' vary immensely, despite a nominal commission of the 'same' crime.

Most murderers are first offenders in a domestic situation. Do we equate them with the Sutcliffes and Shipmans?
mortonjag 2008-08-12 14:37:11
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 12 2008, 02:20 PM) [snapback]493422[/snapback]
And you're fond of a non sequitur it seems.

I have never been into gardening.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 14:47:32 Some folk are so bloody precious-I'd NEVER vote against anybody, and I just wish more of the cowardly clypes who give/gave me a hard time with the other mods were on this level playing field! dry.gif

The Jessie boys are becoming muted-no harm in new blood I say!
mortonjag 2008-08-12 15:27:34
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Aug 12 2008, 02:52 PM) [snapback]493437[/snapback]
Why put rape in quotes? It suggests there are more than one type, maybe a lesser type of rape. If that's what you are inferring I disagree.

Do I equate first time murderers with the Sutcliffes and Shipmans? When it comes to murder I would concede that there are crimes of passion that do not equate to the crimes of serial killers.

So rape=rape=rape, but you concede to different types of murder!

What are we talking about? Dictionary definitions just won't do for one and not the other.

It's historically well documented that procuring a fair conviction in cases of alleged rape is fraught with difficulties, and that the circumstances in individual cases vary immensely. Most cases are decided on circumstantial evidence and balance of probability rather than eye witness accounts.

'Rape'-no apology for the inverted commas- is one of the least safe convictions in the legal catalogue.

From a moral viewpoint I TOTALLY agree that no woman should be disadvantaged sexually against her will, but the manner in which that is all too frequently done is a function of culpability on a massive sliding scale.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 15:33:50
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Aug 12 2008, 02:59 PM) [snapback]493442[/snapback]
to GWR as far as I know - I am sure thats where the signs for the park are when you are coming from great western road

the park isn't up to much until you walk under gibson street mind you

Ah-I see where you're coming from-you can walk along the banks of the Kelvin from just below the Station, but you're not in the Park proper for-I'd estimate well over half a mile. I reckon four or five hundred yards from Kelvin Hall takes you into the S West end.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 15:47:46
QUOTE(larmton @ Aug 12 2008, 03:21 PM) [snapback]493449[/snapback]
harsh mj
real harsh.

OK

LARMTON IS A CHAISE LONGUE
mortonjag 2008-08-12 15:55:50 ........claims Bill Leckie in today's Scottish Sun. I reckon it's a controversial, but interesting read, and I can't find a bloody link.

One of his statements---


...so just as failures become passes, just as the unemployed become job seekers and bank clerks become account managers, colleges become universities. Diplomas become degrees.....etc.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 16:06:01
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 12 2008, 03:59 PM) [snapback]493473[/snapback]
Ah, the msguided truth of the exam system.
Perhaps The Sun (continuing from its diatribes yesterday) would like to consider why certain exams ie Accouns had their pass rate reduced to 45%, rather than spewing the usual ignorant pish.

Bill Leckie has commented on that exception.

Why don't you read the whole article and then decide whether or not it's ignorant pish?
mortonjag 2008-08-12 16:11:32
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 12 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]493471[/snapback]
For once I 100% agree with you.

It had to happen at some point!

Incidentally, my younger son works for the SCCRC-(one of the three who worked on the Megrahi case), and we've discussed 'rape' convictions/mis-trials several times.

Strathclyde graduate BTW! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 16:19:53
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 12 2008, 03:16 PM) [snapback]493447[/snapback]
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Got any more?

A 'pee the bed' by any other name is still a Pis en Lit.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 16:24:04
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Aug 12 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]493472[/snapback]
Manpower just messed a few of our team over in IBM by pulling our enhanced support team from one of their desks. Unfortunately i am one of these few...

tongue.gif anyone looking for an experienced IT analyst to work for them....willing to work in Georgia if the price is right

Hey thrax-following on Skunk Leckie's comments in today's Sun-is an experienced IT analyst an office cleaner? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 16:26:25
QUOTE(Rossco @ Aug 12 2008, 04:23 PM) [snapback]493485[/snapback]
He is spot on this evident by the amount of people who go to Uni when they really shouldn't be.

If I could give advice to anyone leaving school now it would be to give Uni/College as miss as its hard finding a job once you have bit of paper saying you are qualified.

Has Kermit declined the offer from Oxford (the Monkey asks)?
mortonjag 2008-08-12 16:29:10
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Aug 12 2008, 03:55 PM) [snapback]493469[/snapback]
Cadbury's Ice Breaker anyone? A chocolate bar with minty bits through it, came in a light blue wrapper
Mint cracknell?
Old Jamaica - is that still available?
Texan bars - sure is a mighty chew!

The rum/raisin flavoured choc bars-brilliant. Certainly bought some a year or so back!
mortonjag 2008-08-12 16:33:58
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Aug 12 2008, 04:04 PM) [snapback]493478[/snapback]
I hardly ever vote on these forums tbh.

Dont get me started on this Independence pish mind you happy.gif

I wouldn't dream of it Sir.

My opinions were probably coloured by my need to preserve my salary too, but in my happy retirement I can think and say just what I please!


Boozehound is POUFFE of the week and I'd love to shag him. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 16:41:56
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 12 2008, 04:39 PM) [snapback]493497[/snapback]
Dutch guy in my team applies for a few days holiday, I was going to approve it, until I read the next part.

'Can I request the 22nd August off, my boyfriend is over for the weekend and we are looking forward to a dirty weekend off'


Dirty b*****d I thought, your getting no fecking holiday.

Needless to say I declined his holiday request, just for putting those thoughts in my mind.

Does this make me homophobic?

Sean-unless you're totally 'at it' it makes you daft for publicising the information-remember the walls have ears.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 16:47:47
QUOTE(Rossco @ Aug 12 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]493494[/snapback]
Yes was holding out for cambridge.

It's hardly a leap up the pecking order! laugh.gif

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 12 2008, 04:39 PM) [snapback]493498[/snapback]
Fortunately enough a pleb has The Sun nearby. smile.gif
The general point of rewarding success appears to be somewhat loosely linked to the primary argument.
The pass mark is determined (as far as I'm aware) by panels who analyse the exam set and determine whether it was harder/easier than the previous ones.
A straightforward exam will see the pass limit conversely rise above 50%.
The only straightforward method of guaranteeing a 50% pass rate and uniform difficulty would be to set practically the same exam each and every year - then you'd see a major "improvement" in pass marks.
The main issue has to be with the Standard Grade, which is practically a bomb-proof pass for the vast majority and therefore has little net worth on its own and is detatched from the significant jump in difficulty at Higher.

How do you define a 'Pleb'. If it's somebody who reads the Sun, mortonjag is a self confessed pleb!
mortonjag 2008-08-12 16:50:12
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Aug 12 2008, 04:40 PM) [snapback]493499[/snapback]
laugh.gif no no...im a real IT analysts...answer phones...lie alot...im basically a fully trained lawyer in that respect

You mean a senior executive IT station operative?
mortonjag 2008-08-12 16:57:28
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 12 2008, 04:46 PM) [snapback]493504[/snapback]
McAnespie undoubtedly has the ability. Its his head needs sorting and if anyone can do it David Irons can as I have a high regard for his man management and motivation skills. We are a bit short on left sided players and if I thought he could be straightened out, I would keep him!

Time will tell-maybe moving Jamie out on loan was a piece of skilful man-management-maybe not. It's not as if Davie's just in the door last week!

I dislike rumours about players and their 'attitudes' but I do re-call vividly we had several not too happy posters when we signed McAnespie.

I'm sure Mr Rae will be bitterly grudging that one! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 17:02:30
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 12 2008, 04:44 PM) [snapback]493503[/snapback]
I doubt very much if anyone in my Dutch team has access to this 'The Jesse Ventura Tobacco Chewing Forum' never mind even reading the www.greenockmorton.org

Anyway who cares, I told him the reason anyway.. rolleyes.gif No doubt he is in at HR now laugh.gif

Hmm! unsure.gif

QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 12 2008, 04:49 PM) [snapback]493510[/snapback]
I think you're just jealous and fancy him, if you can't have him then no one can!

don't think you rejecting his holiday claim is homophobic, i just think you're getting a tad large for that closet.

smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 17:31:20
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 12 2008, 05:24 PM) [snapback]493532[/snapback]
From Dear Deidre today:
What would the doctor advise? blush.gif

laugh.gif

Well if the poor soul's daft enough to write to Deirdre about a possible hormonal problem-he's probably too daft to take medical advice!

Mine?

Bilateral mastectomy with a blunt cleaver. The residual macho scarring will have daft bitches falling over each other to hump him/her/it.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 17:41:34 Just had a p.m. from Poppo Coeyman.

Jag, you've helped me before on this Ton forum. I've got that Sean over a barrel now, and I'm tempted to give him the full works-what do you advise?


He's agreed to keep quiet on the understanding that 'you owe him one'.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 18:14:02
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 12 2008, 06:07 PM) [snapback]493542[/snapback]
Did you not know he was a pouffe ? No handbag or make up wearing .... The dirty b*****d !!

Whats the difference what this dutch guy does in his holidays . I have thought that you'd rather he was off while your at work .

Could you have deep down homosexual tendencies you are frightened that will now come to the fore unsure.gif .
Give the pouffe a break

and a chew at your Kit Kat.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 19:59:23
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Aug 12 2008, 06:32 PM) [snapback]493554[/snapback]
Sorry I just don't see McAnespie fitting into our current set-up. DI's style is to move the ball forward quickly and get player's charging forward with power and pace. All our midfielders and forwards now seem to fit that description.

McAnespie is just too pedestrian for that style of play. He'll stand and wait for the ball to come to him and try to stroke it around, which is okay in a team who are content to sit back and retain possession.

This IMO is the reason Weatherson isn't really in the picture up front, and McAnespie's surplus to requirements.

That suggests to me that you believe DI has no 'plan B'.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 20:02:57
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Aug 12 2008, 06:47 PM) [snapback]493557[/snapback]
Some good points there, I agree about Masterton, first time I've seen him in a Ton jersey and I was impressed. I thought the way he always insisted on passing the ball no matter how tight or difficult the situation was showed an excellent attitude, even more so that he always passed it forward. Shimmin did similar albiet it's not quite so hard back there. I thought Russell looked a bit of a menace as well.

Masterton has been a valuable acquisition, and once he develops more consistency and accuracy with those deliveries, we'll start to score more goals.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 20:07:32
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Aug 12 2008, 07:09 PM) [snapback]493563[/snapback]
This is all nonsense, but I don't really have the time or interest to spell out the correct position. For example, why would Morton want youth training facilities on a school day? You won't find anyone on here who knows the legal position Jackie. Why don't you approach the Council or, heaven forbid, Morton FC?

Too busy applying lotion to the scrotum again! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 20:11:43 You can get your point over quite simply without upsetting or offending people. I do it all the time.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 20:17:55
QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 12 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]493582[/snapback]
I hope hamilton have a miserable season. I don't understand all the well-wishing for them after the Craig Thompson incident last season.

Talking of which I've sent ANOTHER letter to the SFA today-this time directly to Gordon Smith and by recorded delivery. I shall report back in due course. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 20:20:58
QUOTE(Magic Mathie @ Aug 12 2008, 08:01 PM) [snapback]493590[/snapback]
Go contracting it's way better than working as a permie - don't have to worry about reviews/company politics etc. Money is much much better too.

Does have it's downsides with no holiday/sickness pay and no pension but you'd earn more than enough money to compensate.

Once you've been contracting you don't look back!

I take it you've got a private pension sorted out. VERY important, especially those days.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 20:23:59
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 12 2008, 07:36 PM) [snapback]493574[/snapback]
You just want him in to 'Groom Him' for Pouffe sessions ohmy.gif

laugh.gif

You know me so well! thumbup2.gif thumbup2.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 20:31:41
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 12 2008, 07:58 PM) [snapback]493587[/snapback]
Correction, you would have tried....or even tried to remember how to. rolleyes.gif

You seem to regard Willy Man as something of a flop! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 20:38:30 Imagine if WE were playing one of the OF tomorrow night and discovered it wasn't deemed worthy of discussion on their unofficial web site. There would be a 20 pager of abuse!

We COULD be beaten tomorrow-stranger things have happened, and JM might become quite animated for a few seconds after the final whistle.


For what it's worth, I believe we'll be much too strong for them, and I'm going for 3-0 with goals from Newby, Wakey, and Harding! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 20:43:10
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 12 2008, 08:26 PM) [snapback]493622[/snapback]
That must be statement of the year rolleyes.gif

Do I sense a hint of sarcasm? angel.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 20:46:23
QUOTE(Magic Mathie @ Aug 12 2008, 08:30 PM) [snapback]493625[/snapback]
Yeah, I've 10 years of a Group Final salary and started a stakeholder about 7 years ago. IMO I think just putting money into an ISA every year is a better way to save for the future than todays pension plans.

Nothing's ever guaranteed with MUNNY! The main thing is that you're making a substantial provision, as I believe when you reach retirement age, the state pension (for what it's worth) will have gone completely, and the NHS will be virtually non-existent in its present form.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 20:56:29
QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 12 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]493645[/snapback]
Was actually speaking to the Queens Park under 17s coach today (they beat Morton 6-1 at the Battery on Sunday) and he didn't exactly give a glowing report on his first impressions of Morton's youth set up.

He described a lot of the boys as looking as though they had beer bellys and the team in general as the poorest they've played in a long time, whilst there seemed to be very little organisation in the coaching staff. Bearing in mind that players at under 17 level should be the sort of guys pushing themselves into the limelight for the first team in the not so distant future he couldn't believe Morton had such an unprofessional approach.

I accept that bringing in boys is the only approach that Queens' can take, given their amatuer status, but how can things there be so far ahead of at Morton? Yes, there are the facilities at Hampden, but surely the main factor in a club's youth set up should be the people that are employed to operate it.

Could it be Rae's dismissive approach to youth development that was there for all to see at the Q & A?

This old chestnut keeps coming up. Every time I read about the 'Youth Set Up' I become MORE confused. Look at what bloody Hamilton have achieved!

I bet there's not a single soul who contributes to this massage board who can spell out clearly and concisely how the 'system' is operated laugh.gif (from the oldest down to the youngest players).

SHAMBLES is the accurate description of the inner workings at Morton. That has NOT changed just because we've replaced a numpty with a Manager.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 21:15:27
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 12 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]493665[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

as well you know, the 'share issue' was 'documented' at 'companies house' on 18/06/08 having been notified on 7 May 2008

if you're going to 'clarify' the 'details' you really ought to clarify them all laugh.gif

so what you're trying to say is that director designate alistair donald was not a designated director until he was no longer a director designate having been designated a director by companies house?

and you still don't know what's in his handbag laugh.gif

Complete and utter bollocks!

Trumpington and Greenfield are only eighty miles or so apart. Why don't YOU pop over and compare the contents of his handbag with those of your own, Alistair? rolleyes.gif


BTW I recommend lactulose 15 mls t.i.d for the next week or so. That huge keech of yours must be bursting through your silk drawers. You'll be able to think much more clearly when you've seen it off! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 21:18:20
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 12 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]493646[/snapback]
i think we'll be abducted by aliens - during extra time

Dream on Alistair! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 21:24:46
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 12 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]493675[/snapback]
it's retired doctors i feel sorry for

It IS retired doctors Alistair?

This retired doctor is beginning to feel genuinely sorry for you.

Feel free to p.m. me at any time for a wee chat, counselling, or a professional assessment of your mental state.

In reality I'm extremely understanding and helpful, as over a score of posters can testify! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 21:38:28
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 12 2008, 09:20 PM) [snapback]493691[/snapback]
i think the exam system always has been and continues to be harsh - consider poor moronjag: brain the size of a small asteroid and all he gets is three undergraduate degrees from a provincial university

mind you, quoting from the sun ...

I'm always amused by those who attempt to belittle readers of tabloid rags like the Sun-especially by those who seem to know all there is to know about their defects without ever having set eyes on one, Alistair!


Mortonjag has MANY qualifications in addition to his three little degrees from the 'provincial' university'-and FFS don't let Spurtle spot that comment!

The University of Life is the only TRUE UNIVERSITY.

Incidentally Alistair, you're quite a secretive little fellah. I've managed to piece together a few details about you, but they are probably quite incorrect!

One of my brothers has a 'first' from Oxford, and was singularly unimpressed by the place. Like yourself he attended the good old Academy of Greenock Town! Good grief-I'd imagine he must be just about your age-indeed you may know him, and he, you! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 21:43:45
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 12 2008, 09:28 PM) [snapback]493699[/snapback]
i'm losing my faith in you :(

please look at the companies house barcode sticker on the egm notice. you may need to ask a responsible adult to explain what it means

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


You're letting your guard slip Alistair. I think it's either time to come out or shut up! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 22:12:55
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 12 2008, 10:01 PM) [snapback]493730[/snapback]
so, no responsible adult within hailing distance?

NO.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 22:17:40
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 12 2008, 09:45 PM) [snapback]493713[/snapback]
No, although it is clear to see you have failed the literacy test. blush.gif

laugh.gif

Don't cross swords with Alistair, young man-he'll have you believing two and two make nine before you're a day older.

He HAS been offered counselling! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 22:19:43
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 12 2008, 09:11 PM) [snapback]493678[/snapback]
wipe your disk, start again and promise to behave smile.gif

rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 22:24:03
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 12 2008, 09:53 PM) [snapback]493721[/snapback]
we really ought to draw a veil over our adolescent fumblings wub.gif

although he did say that his brother was less well endowed laugh.gif

He has four brothers, Alistair. smile.gif

mortonjag 2008-08-12 22:26:24
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 12 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]493732[/snapback]
it are retired doctors i feel sorry for

Are it indeed? Very good-I'm off to speak with the Jessie Boys. You don't post there perchance? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 22:31:36
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 12 2008, 08:36 PM) [snapback]493631[/snapback]
Do you find it impossible not to look down the cleavage of a woman dressed in a low cut top ?


NO-it's a learned technique to look her straight in the eye while still taking in the rest!

Have you ever been caught looking down a womans cleavage ?



NOPE!

QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 12 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]493662[/snapback]
why do women wear low cut tops and dresses if they don't want guys to look? its their own fault and its precisely why they wear it in the first place.

If i went out wearing arseless jeans i wouldnt complain and get upset if someone looked at my arse, i'd realise im an idiot who got exactly what was coming to me.

Exactly-'look at my lovely tits' is what they're saying, and when you don't, you immediately gain the psychological advantage! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 22:39:34
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 12 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]493743[/snapback]
Weird thing happened on Sunday when walking down the stairs in my folks close.

Just as we got to the bottom of the 2nd last flight of stairs I noticed the wall on the left hand side of the landing had about a dozen largish flies stuck on it, I then turned round and the wall on the right hand side had even more and the wall dividing the two sets of stairs also had some on it.

They were surreal looking just stuck there DEAD !!!

The walls were brushed down, however the next night I discovered another couple stuck to the dividing wall.

Anyone else ever come across this sort of strange thing ??

The Raes are purportedly dead fly.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 07:34:44
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 12 2008, 10:46 PM) [snapback]493749[/snapback]
i hope this web site has the appropriate indemnity insurance laugh.gif

Dead men cannot sue, Alistair.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 07:38:05
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 12 2008, 11:14 PM) [snapback]493765[/snapback]
Who died and made you 'Morale Officer'?

I see Smeggy's in a tetchy mood.

QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 12 2008, 11:26 PM) [snapback]493774[/snapback]
i think celtic will beat us 4-1. scott mcdonald was supposed to be coming to us care of newton, wasn't he? huh.gif

Ask Newt, Alistair-perhaps he'll relate better to your thought processes. happy.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-13 07:41:59
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 12 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]493688[/snapback]
Being as short as I am it tends to happen smile.gif

Do you fancy Louise?
mortonjag 2008-08-13 07:48:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 13 2008, 01:34 AM) [snapback]493800[/snapback]
they still ask if you want 'raspberry' on it.
Gidday Mortonjag,

I had forgotten that.

Was it always "raspberry" or nothing ?


We would take a bowl down Roxburgh Street for 6 scoops of ice cream and "raspberry"

... and the old Tally would cover it with a sheeet of paper !!

to stop it melting ?

or to keep out Greenock pollution.

Every Sunday afternoon after attending Sunday School at the new West Kirk in Nelson Street.

In the good old days it was! I remember those squares of greaseproof paper too. By the time you got home the ice cream had always melted a bit and they required to be licked clean before disposal.

We use to break the bottom inch or so off the cone and make a second 'wee' cone, before sooking the ice cream out through the resultant hole in the original!!!

Did Freud partake of gelati? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-13 07:59:39
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Aug 13 2008, 01:42 AM) [snapback]493804[/snapback]
Rae has no interest in the youth of the club. Short term goals to satisfy his ego are all he's concerned about - and he's even making an arse of that.

However, he DID save the club so he can run it any way he wants, even if it leaves us crippled for the foreseeable future huh.gif

'Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings' indeed CC! I've been trying to get that message over in my last 20,000 posts. Maybe they'll believe you! blush.gif

QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 13 2008, 04:30 AM) [snapback]493818[/snapback]
Insiders at the club such as Mabawsa and the laundry maid are never going to clarify situations. These people love to let everyone else know they're privvy to a little bit of information that the little people don't have. in their eye it gives them a bit of kudos they may not normally have. They were probably bullied at school.

I'd suggest it's slightly more involved. Those people clearly have the well recognised 'victim complex'. They court attention in a histrionic manner by always ensuring they have some ongoing bullying to complain and whine about. Cappielow is the ideal situation for those with 'victim complex'.

You are correct about the 'I know more than you but I'm not telling'. That's another common ruse used by inadequates, and totally different from preserving confidentiality. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-13 08:06:01
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 12 2008, 11:10 PM) [snapback]493763[/snapback]
Well, f***, we're all going to jail now.

laugh.gif

Off you pop Smeggy-you won't be missed.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 08:18:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 13 2008, 03:05 AM) [snapback]493815[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

Are you suggesting that the Ton has raised capital through an unregistered share issue ?

Will the SFL deduct points for that ?

sad.gif sad.gif

I'm suggesting nothing Newt, though the singular silence on this thread NOW is proof positive of the inherent decency dry.gif of my detractors and abusers. All I've done is ask a question, and persevere until I've got the answers.

Apologies and acknowledgement from weasels would merely be meaningless squeaking.

Alistair Donald became a Director of Greenock Morton nominally on July 1st. That was ratified later in July. There was NEVER any incompetence at Companies House. For some reason he chose that course. He certainly announced in January that he had joined the Board.


Did something piss him off in the interim? laugh.gif

Perhaps Crawford Rae was unaware that he could have completed form 288a on line.

I find it strange that a vastly experienced businessman of Mr Donald's pedigree apparently shared that possible ignorance.

Perhaps our new Director will see fit to answer the Trust's letter before Christmas! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-13 08:36:20
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 13 2008, 07:41 AM) [snapback]493827[/snapback]
He maybe a certian Dutch guys boyfriend rolleyes.gif

...whose dirty week end has been cancelled by the powers that be? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-13 08:41:25
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Aug 12 2008, 11:29 PM) [snapback]493777[/snapback]
Talking of chocolate bars - does anyone remember Tunnock McNulty, who used to post on one of the old boards with tales of his amazing confectionery-inspired jobbies? laugh.gif

Conjures up memories of liquorice pipes.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 08:43:29
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 12 2008, 10:58 PM) [snapback]493756[/snapback]
you have difficulty discussing your feelings?

I prefer to keep my intimate secrets. mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-13 08:45:15
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 12 2008, 10:53 PM) [snapback]493753[/snapback]
do you have a private pension or one underwritten by the taxpayer?



Both.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 08:48:47
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Aug 13 2008, 01:22 AM) [snapback]493797[/snapback]
well I got off at Kelvinbridge and walked to the Art Gallery. Only took 5-10 minutes and was the first stop. If it's any quicker from Kelvinhall then it's minimal.

Kevinhall to Art Gallery would take less than five minutes brisk walk. Kelvinhall to the west end of the park-about three! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-13 08:51:36
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 13 2008, 07:50 AM) [snapback]493831[/snapback]
I thought you didn't believe in a higher authority.

Perhaps he meant demigods.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 08:53:27
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 13 2008, 07:49 AM) [snapback]493830[/snapback]
Barmy Prince Charlie has been spouting off again about the evils of multi national corporations, genetic engineering, deforestation etc. He reckons that if the world carries on in this direction we're all doomed and headed for a gigantic environmental disaster, so he wants to be 'counted out' of such wicked ways. All very well for this medieval relic to speak out, but maybe he'd be more credible if he renounced privilege and started handing back all the estates and possessions that he inherited from his thieving ancestors. Maybe then he could be counted in, but there's slim chance of that happening.

Why do semi-intelligent inbreds still get media coverage?
mortonjag 2008-08-13 09:02:06
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Aug 13 2008, 08:32 AM) [snapback]493850[/snapback]
We have laws on the books that state that if the victim is intoxicated/drugged up/otherwise incapacitated, and the sustpect/subject is not, then it's "rape" regardless if she said no or not. It's called "diminished capacity," and it goes on the assumption that the victim could not either say NO, could not get the point across, and/or had no wherewithall to resist. The suspect can be charged with rape itself, or the lesser "statutory rape," which is also what someone 18 and over will be charged with if they have sex with a child under 16 (for sex with teens 16-18, then over 21 can be charged with statutory rape).

The chances and stats show that if someone rapes/sodomizes, etc someone, it's either not their first vitim, or it won't be their last.

It does become very confusing! If she's incapable of distinguishing between 'no' and 'yes', 'Yes' is entirely unreliable! unsure.gif

On that basis, it's a potentially long stretch in the slammer for any man who shags a bird when she's pissed. JEEESUZ-I could be doing 100 years hard labour right now! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Truly the law is an ass!
mortonjag 2008-08-13 09:05:18
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 12 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]493752[/snapback]
he was referring to you

I shall confront him this evening on the way to Stenhousemuir. If he concurs with you, he will walk home.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 09:07:38
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 13 2008, 12:42 AM) [snapback]493786[/snapback]
f***ing quality. wub.gif

So I'm told-my knob's tongue's hanging out!
mortonjag 2008-08-13 09:12:26
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 13 2008, 06:38 AM) [snapback]493819[/snapback]
Right...ya bunch of animal rights freaks.

I have approved this guys holiday. Just no one mention the word poufes on Fri 22nd Aug..

blink.gif

Glad you backed down for him Sean-I hope you haven't taken it too hard. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-13 09:15:50 'When you've seen one pair of massive tits, you've seen them all!

Discuss with reference to the current incumbents at Morton F.C.!
mortonjag 2008-08-13 10:29:09
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 13 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]493888[/snapback]
Perhaps our new Director will see fit to answer the Trust's letter before Christmas!

Or to make post # 700 ?

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I've given him over an hour-perhaps he's 'out of the country again'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-13 10:32:05
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Aug 13 2008, 09:13 AM) [snapback]493887[/snapback]
MONKEY BLOOD!!!!!!!! ph34r.gif

Rhesus positive cones.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 10:37:05
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Aug 13 2008, 09:51 AM) [snapback]493905[/snapback]
Mr Pot, meet Mr Kettle.............. dry.gif

Post number 3, and an attack on the Jag!

N.B. big Mods!!! laugh.gif

Anyway-marks out of ten:


Originality 1
Wit 0
Accuracy 0

And for editing a post before quoting: -10! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-13 10:41:05
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Aug 13 2008, 10:19 AM) [snapback]493912[/snapback]
That's probably about right, unless we sign two full backs. I think DI's signings and early season line-ups/displays will tell you he has one plan in mind, give or take a few adjustments.

His plan seems to revolve largely around Brian Wake, going on Saturday's showing when we seemed to find it difficult to find an alternative system. We played a bit like Rangers in the first half, i.e. no width and not much creativity. I thought this improved when Finlayson came on and McAlister moved to left mid. Neither of them were great but just having any sort of width helped spread the play and create more chances.

DI repeated yesterday he'll go back to his preferred 3-4-3 as Wake is back, though he will change to 4-3-3 on occasion. In other words 4-4-2 isn't really in his plans.

That's more or less how I see it, and presumably if Wakey gets injured and the defenders are all fit Spoonsy can replace him.

The trouble is that he's only got one string to the bow and that attack will flounder at times against well set up opposition. We need wingers (or wing players).
mortonjag 2008-08-13 10:47:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 13 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]493866[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

Because he has a degree from a PROPER university ?

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The divine right of Kings.

That man is a vegetable-no wonder they understand him.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 10:52:02
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 13 2008, 09:52 AM) [snapback]493906[/snapback]
You're not allowed to say that any more.....

unsure.gif

I did!
mortonjag 2008-08-13 11:01:41
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 13 2008, 10:19 AM) [snapback]493911[/snapback]
There is no doubt that standards have been lowered to try to achieve Tony Blair's stated aim of having 50% of people get degrees. Some of the subjetcs on offer are risible - photography isn't a degree subject in my opinion. There is nothing wrong with having a trade, and why belittle tradesmen by implying that you are nobody unless you have a degree? If you lower standards, you devalue ALL degrees and simply create mediocrity. Far better to be a good plumber or joiner with skill and ability than to give that up in pursuit of a degree in something obscure and useless.

The sadness for me is that many of today's kids actually believe they've achieved something until they are forced to compete in the labour market. Only then is the true worth of their scraps of paper revealed, and for some it's a bombshell.

For those who graduate with quality degrees from proper universities, their bits of paper are merely a stepping stone. Some of the brightest students in my year became useless quacks AND vice versa.

There is NO substitute for experience, and all of life's skills are developed 'at the coal face'.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 11:05:05
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Aug 13 2008, 11:00 AM) [snapback]493939[/snapback]
Who will drop out for Wakey? Think Masterton could be unfortunate as he did well on Saturday. I think this could be the starting 11:

----------------------------------------------Cuthbert--------------------------------------------

------------------------Shimmin------------McManus-------------Harding----------------------

Finlayson-----------------McGuffie----------------------Paartalu-------------------McAlister

-------------------------Russell---------------Wake----------------Newby---------------------




Jimbo's been crap for weeks. I'd give him a well earned rest. Superkev should cope against third division opposition!
mortonjag 2008-08-13 11:12:52
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 13 2008, 10:57 AM) [snapback]493937[/snapback]
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One minute I'm erudite, the next I'm jejeune (or should that be jejune?) My point is that the monarchy is an irrelevance to most free thinking democrats, apart from some erudite, jejune auld tories of course. If he wants to play a part in society he should do as I suggest: come doon aff his pedestal and get a proper job.

Je.. January, Fe.. February, M.. March.............Je.. June?

Latin ...jejunus=hungry!
mortonjag 2008-08-13 11:18:38
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 13 2008, 10:44 AM) [snapback]493928[/snapback]
Just for you mate.

[attachment=4343:Michelle_Marsh_L.JPG]

[attachment=4344:Rebecca_Romijn.bmp]

Silicone glen!
mortonjag 2008-08-13 11:25:19
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 13 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]493952[/snapback]
laugh.gif Didn't think you were choosy Mr Jag! biggrin.gif

Silicone at 37 deg. C.makes excellent stress balls!
mortonjag 2008-08-13 12:11:42
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 13 2008, 11:56 AM) [snapback]493974[/snapback]
A 27% slump in sales suggests a significant price drop in the near future though.
Not that that is necessarily a bad thing.

Would you care to expand the argument a little? I'll start you off by stating that it's not necessarily a good thing! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-13 12:14:14
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 13 2008, 12:00 PM) [snapback]493978[/snapback]
It is a bit silly to test trigonometry and a basic life skill within the same exam paper IMO.

Which skill?
mortonjag 2008-08-13 12:17:20
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 13 2008, 11:45 AM) [snapback]493966[/snapback]
Other meanings are: boring, intellectually undemanding, childish, and barren. The auld pedagogue's having a dig I believe. laugh.gif


Shall we rename him the Archeologist?
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 13 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]493969[/snapback]
Dunno, but I'd like to retire him and his ilk. Permanently.

Born in 1949!
mortonjag 2008-08-13 12:21:24
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 13 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]493957[/snapback]
So does an ample cleavage and a willing participant wink.gif

As demonstrated by the gaping bottom of a vacant old pouffe?
mortonjag 2008-08-13 12:25:04
QUOTE(Muz @ Aug 13 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]493986[/snapback]
Puggsy- honestly- I HATE Abba with a passion. If it comes on at a wedding I would sit doon.

Cant stand them.

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mortonjag 2008-08-13 12:29:05
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Aug 13 2008, 12:23 PM) [snapback]493994[/snapback]
Isn't it gratifying, when one casts one's bait upon the water, to see how the pondlife is disturbed?

And "as for editing a post before quoting"....... as if moronjag would never do such a thing!

You appear easily gratified.

Happy to have been of help.

I'm just about to check your profile-most putative' anglers are scared to leave details and last for about fifty or so posts! dry.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif pricking pomposity, prodding prejudices laugh.gif laugh.gif

G'on yersel' sonny! smile.gif


Oh and 6/6/66 ! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-13 12:42:14
QUOTE(leyTON @ Aug 13 2008, 12:36 PM) [snapback]494010[/snapback]
theres lots of it analysts in gibraltar




Are you suggesting that apes are pouffes?
mortonjag 2008-08-13 12:52:39
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Aug 13 2008, 12:49 PM) [snapback]494022[/snapback]
hmmm, I can see that I'm going to have to add "provoking patronisers".............. sonny! To quote Corporal Jones, "they don't like it up 'em"................

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Go ahead child-shall I ask if you're a POUFFE while I'm on? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-13 13:44:19
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Aug 13 2008, 12:56 PM) [snapback]494026[/snapback]
are you in the habit of asking "children" about their sexual orientation?

Am I being "groomed" here, Grandad?

Are you Gary Glitter in disguise??

Hmm!

Do your parents know about this? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-13 13:47:39
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 13 2008, 01:16 PM) [snapback]494033[/snapback]
It's the rules of Scottish football, you can't play against your club. The two clubs would need to agree that he could play when the contract was signed, and they wouldn't expect to play against each other.

But in short, he's not good enough and would only be 5th choice striker so why not loan him out.

That's it in a nutshell.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 13:49:51
QUOTE(Muz @ Aug 13 2008, 12:44 PM) [snapback]494018[/snapback]
But not as much as I hate you.

Thank God-I was getting jealous for a wee while.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 13:52:44
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 13 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]494024[/snapback]
For a start it would be one of the few sectors of the economy that would show a deflationary pattern - every little helps in trying to curb the inflating inflation rate.
It also helps first-time buyers get onto the "housing ladder" without havign a stupid amount of debt over their heads.
Also, it is a case of the market correcting itself after a spell of lunacy and significant speculation. blush.gif
It depends on individual circumstances as to whether it is a good or bad thing - if you're a Daily Mail reader, its the Antichrist. blush.gif

So there are winners and losers. That's probably not a bad thing either!
mortonjag 2008-08-13 13:57:39
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 13 2008, 12:48 PM) [snapback]494020[/snapback]
Arithmetic.
Or am I being whooshed? blush.gif

I'm many things young man but I ain't a 'whoosher'! I thought you meant arithmetic-you'd imagine it to be a 'basic life skill', yet half the population those days is relatively innumerate.

That, BTW, is a FACT! blush.gif

QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 13 2008, 12:58 PM) [snapback]494028[/snapback]
If I was a school leaver now I wouldn't even consider university, with the exception being engineering type subjects. The old adage of "learn a trade son" is the way forward for the yoofs who want practically guaranteed employment anywhere in the world on very generous salaries.

Never a truer word said.

If you want to study one of the proper university subjects, it's different of course. The unions did not invent the 'closed shop'! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-13 14:13:21
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 13 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]494005[/snapback]
I think Michelle Marsh's assets are natural. Also from the same stable of quality boobies are Lucy Pinder and Keeley Hazell. wub.gif

You may have misunderstood me young man-silicone at 37 degrees C. has a lovely smoothly compliant character, quite unlike the grainy fibroadenotic lumpiness of many of those hypertrophic naturals, who, without bilateral reduction mammoplasties, will end up like half shut knives.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 14:15:52
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 13 2008, 12:39 PM) [snapback]494011[/snapback]
You sure it isn't forwards? ph34r.gif

I heard he just rocks to and fro.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 14:22:33
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 13 2008, 02:08 PM) [snapback]494078[/snapback]
Indiana McB, c'est moi.

Probably more likely to be Sir Mortimer Wheeler. Remember him.

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDNot at all Indiana-she's merely indulging her undying interest in old relics.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 14:46:39
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 13 2008, 02:35 PM) [snapback]494095[/snapback]
Are you calling me an old relic? huh.gif

I was alluding to Madame du Bam's interest in things ancient!
mortonjag 2008-08-13 14:54:58
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 13 2008, 02:39 PM) [snapback]494098[/snapback]
You been reading those 'Gay Weekly' magazines again laugh.gif

Sway if you like to be gay
Sway if you like it that way!

I was thinking about your original post.

Asking his superior for time off 'for a dirty weekend' indicated an insubordinate and risque attitude which might prove detrimental to staff morale. Had I been you, I'd have chucked the cheeky Gouda guzzling geek over my knee and tanned his pink pouffe little arse with one of my stilettos.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 15:10:51 laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-13 15:15:23
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 13 2008, 03:08 PM) [snapback]494109[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif

He would most defo love you rolleyes.gif
Any man that carry's a handbag around, gay or not... Is just not right in the head.



It's a cheese bag. Do you want the place stinking of the stuff?

Anyway I've always found you have to be cruel to others to be kind to yourself.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 15:22:15
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 13 2008, 03:08 PM) [snapback]494110[/snapback]
Needs its own exam to sort the numerate from the innumerate.
A maths question can yield 5/6 marks and so on for a wrong answer(due to a basic error in arithmetic) if correct working is provided.
Now, that shows that the pupil understands the theory of the topic, such as trigonometery and the like, but it doesn't show he/she can actually count - despite being awarded an 'A' in Higher Maths. wacko.gif

I shall for once lower my guard with a confession. I was abysmally poor at Mathematics.

Having said that I was commensurately outstanding at arithmetic.

Two things which always annoy me about 'Countdown' are the description of the counting as 'Maths', and the anagram as a 'conundrum'.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 15:26:25
QUOTE(centralTON @ Aug 13 2008, 03:21 PM) [snapback]494118[/snapback]
2 hours of my life I will never get back again. dry.gif

Don't fret-tonight you can get it right up JM for stealing weeks.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 16:13:23
QUOTE(centralTON @ Aug 13 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]494127[/snapback]
Hope so, you shouldn't have a problem finding a parking space tonight, you must know the place pretty well.

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We know a wee place!
mortonjag 2008-08-13 16:16:47
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 13 2008, 04:03 PM) [snapback]494140[/snapback]
Ah, so your a giver not a taker laugh.gif

Sado-masochist-they always get the better of me in the end!
mortonjag 2008-08-13 17:18:57 large mongrel going free to good home-will eat anything-very fond of children.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 17:33:33 Now that JM IS apparently in charge of a squad, will he still be sitting like a Buddha- arms folded, lounging back against the wall arms folded, or demonstrating a previously rare animation?

I have a strange feeling that he will tonight look more like a windmill in a light breeze.

Pity about the humping though-well for him! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 06:19:03 Those who attended will confirm that there was indeed a somewhat sedate and insignificant little man with folded arms seen lounging about in the Stenny 'dug out', where a more rotund gentleman in similar attire received a rebuke from one of little Santa's helpers-probably for farting over exuberantly.
mortonjag 2008-08-14 06:30:33
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 13 2008, 06:23 PM) [snapback]494192[/snapback]
"It rubs the lotion on its skin, or else it gets the hose again."

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That sounds like a poetic line LargsTON!

Mabawsa Beast-it cannot win
It dare not scratch that scrote again
It rubs the lotion on its skin
Or else it gets the hose again. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 06:51:22
QUOTE(RevDave @ Aug 13 2008, 07:24 PM) [snapback]494203[/snapback]
RevDave is answerable to God alone!

For your information:

chaplaincy in sport

Rev Dave appears then to be a dedicated follower of Cappielow fashion! laugh.gif

QUOTE(marbellaton @ Aug 13 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]494293[/snapback]
I'm more bothered that he made it into the squad photo's that I saw on Tontastic's site.

link? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 06:56:42 Pleasing to see another tremendous header from RH-that's two good goals he's been denied in two games. Not bad from a guy who took unfair abuse for much of last season.
mortonjag 2008-08-14 07:15:09
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 13 2008, 08:40 PM) [snapback]494256[/snapback]
I can see where DM's coming from but McGuffie's now scored in his last 3 games and deserves some credit, irrespective of the opposition.

Man of the Match for me by a long chalk. Players' player who pops up all over the place when least expected-reads the game early and well. Scored two good goals last night, had one excellent 'last man' tackle, and a composed run down the right touchline which Superkev would have been proud of.

Lazy?

Ineffective?

Start WATCHING the guy, instead of 'not seeing' him!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 07:29:57
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 14 2008, 06:11 AM) [snapback]494445[/snapback]
lots of views = lots of concern/interest ? ?

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I'm confused now myself Newt. While I freely acknowledge that some posters are fatally attracted to mortonjag like flies to a toxic turd, I did believe there was also some genuine interest in AD's remit.

Seems we're doing OK at the moment-the focus is on the football-and the usual mass complacency has flooded back in.

The Trust states that it asked a polite question of Mr Donald, and to date has apparently had no response. The function of the Trust-AS I HAVE BEEN STOUTLY REMINDED- is to...........oh f*ck-I've forgotten. I think they have too! mad.gif

Anyway I see Jim McColl IS still a Director, and we now KNOW that Mr Donald's a Director, (only as of 1st July mind), so I'd assume Jim just has to say-'Alistair, what are your plans-you DO remember we once had a man here called Hugh's Cot, and Alistair, with his undying passion for all things Morton will reply' I DO Jim, and you're entitled to know, and they are as follows'! laugh.gif




AM I MISSING SOMETHING?




mortonjag 2008-08-14 07:44:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 14 2008, 03:25 AM) [snapback]494434[/snapback]
http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/ho...icle1556715.ece

McInally said: “If you take the goals out of the game I thought that we more than matched Morton."

What's your point, caller ?

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In fairness to JM he always loved squads which flattered to deceive. The wee Shire looked quite tidy at times last night. We looked big and strong and fit and frequently rather feckless, but it's a 'results driven game' as Fr. Rae lamented when JM deserted the sinking ship!
mortonjag 2008-08-14 07:56:20
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 13 2008, 10:28 PM) [snapback]494327[/snapback]
Not long in from the game...

Fairly solid performance from all concerned. East Stirling rarely troubled, though did hit the post from a free kick in the first half.

All the goals were taken well, and McGuffie is really coming onto a game now.

Only two negatives in the game were the referee ( dry.gif ) and Harding's distribution in the first half (woeful doesn't even begin to cover that).

Home draw in the Quarter Finals please. smile.gif



QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 13 2008, 11:01 PM) [snapback]494346[/snapback]
The second was a good strike and looked hard to save from where I was standing. The third might have been save-able but came through a crowd of players.

He also made a decent save from Peter Weatherson.

I thought Hillcoat had a decent game.




My brother said to me about twenty minutes from the end-'Do you fancy going home now'? I've never known him to ask that before. We stayed on.


Boring as boring gets, but a result! BTW I've now read every single post about last night's match, and the only mention of 'our best player' was that he was fouled! blink.gif

The Ref just needed a fluffy white beard and a pair of top boots to make him believable-HE gets £300-£400 quid for THAT? ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif

WILL we sign at least one winger? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 08:01:20
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 14 2008, 06:37 AM) [snapback]494448[/snapback]
was he lost ?

I have to say he looked VERY insignificant! I expected to see some animation-ZILCH!

I felt a bit sorry for him to be honest. I don't think he could stamp his authority on a pat of butter. Fr. Rae definitely 'saw him coming'!
mortonjag 2008-08-14 08:17:53
QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 14 2008, 08:05 AM) [snapback]494458[/snapback]
Both points about the social club are true.

However, Stenhousemuir have two social clubs, one in the main stand and the independant Warriors club in which we met AyrshireTon. we were in the one in the stand for two beers before heading round to the other social club.

I don't remember seeing any Morton officials in that club but clearly someone that knows us was there. Gerry's now had it with Morton and says he'll be cancelling the direct debits and returning his season ticket, I'm not of the same view although I will be contacting the club.

We were told at the turnstyles that we'll not be allowed in the ground because of advice given by an official of Morton Football Club and from now on are banned from Ochilview, Cappielow and that Morton are making moves to have us banned from every ground in Scotland. Surprising this, bearing in mind that they've recently been more than happy to take £210 off me for a season ticket after sending a letter to me offering me the opportunity to buy one and to set up Gerry's standing order for his.

We'll never be popular with the club and don't court popularity with them but surely if this was going to happen it would've happened a long time before now? Our relationship with the club probably broke down the day I had a go at McInally outside Forthbank and deteriorated further during our TTG campaign but since I gave Martin Clark a hard time at Dens Park in February, I vowed to "clean up my act" and haven't been involved in any incidents since so can't understand why Morton feel the need to do this now when they could've done it back then.

Incidentally, we left the official club off our own backs. We were not asked to leave by anyone and actually stood and talked to the two guys behind the bar. Had we done anything out of order I'm sure we'd have been kicked out, but that wasn't the case.

I'd like to know the whole truth about this before lending you my wholehearted support.

Off the cuff it sounds typical of the Rae Dynasty! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 08:44:36
QUOTE(larmton @ Aug 13 2008, 10:41 PM) [snapback]494332[/snapback]
better laugh.gif

LARMTON IS A VELVET CUSHION?


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mortonjag 2008-08-14 09:17:16
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 13 2008, 08:04 PM) [snapback]494227[/snapback]
I usually agree with you MJ, but not on this, the Murray brothers are great for Scottish sport. rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 13 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]494245[/snapback]
You usually agree with him!!!???? He's off his f***ing rocker. And not in a good way.

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QUOTE(centralTON @ Aug 13 2008, 11:38 PM) [snapback]494377[/snapback]
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QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 13 2008, 11:46 PM) [snapback]494385[/snapback]
Andy Murray is an elite World class sports star.

Really can't understand the mentality of some Scottish people, taking pleasure in their compatriot's defeat.

Elite=spoilt, overrated, jumped up, money grabbing-sounds just about right for many of the 'elite' Piehole. It was a HUMPING-not a 'defeat'! Judy will be SO delighted the boys can get back to making Munny for Mummy! dry.gif

QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Aug 14 2008, 12:09 AM) [snapback]494397[/snapback]
the british female tennis team are doing well.
Here's Eleana Baltacha trying to slip one down the line

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QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 14 2008, 01:14 AM) [snapback]494414[/snapback]
compatriot ??

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mortonjag 2008-08-14 09:54:13
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 14 2008, 09:20 AM) [snapback]494488[/snapback]
This man said it. ph34r.gif

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDWho he?
mortonjag 2008-08-14 11:13:38
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 14 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]494476[/snapback]

I'm as certain as I can be that the account Toby has given you is the correct on
e, I do not know the sure reasons behind why the Morton official made a point of making sure Toby and Gerry were not allowed entry into the ground last night but I can only surmise it was it was because Jim McInally was managing our opposition.
I have to say I felt for Toby in particular last night, this is a guy who has not missed a Morton match in probably near a decade and I don't just mean league and cup games I mean meaningless friendlies not just in Scotland but all over England as well. I spoke to Toby before the game and saw him afterwards and you could tell from his voice and his expressions afterwards what missing this game (a meaningless fecking diddy cup game to most) meant to him, he was gutted, some people might not agree with the way he and Gerry go about things, they can be annoying to some but at the end of the day, they do it because this club means everything to them and in my opinion what happened last night was 100% wrong.
I would like to know who the Morton official or employee was and on who's say so he gave the instructions, if it was their own I would like to think the club would discipline them but for some reason I doubt that would happen.

I don't doubt a word of what Toby said-I just need the full story before lending him my wholehearted support-that is what I said.

QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 14 2008, 09:45 AM) [snapback]494500[/snapback]
Morton have obviously spat the dummy big time about something so I'd also advise mortonjag to watch his back. laugh.gif

I sincerely hope neither of you are banned for life.


I doubt if this has anything to do with Morton!
QUOTE(irnbru @ Aug 14 2008, 10:06 AM) [snapback]494507[/snapback]
To be honest maybe its something like this you guys need - some of the nonsense and shouting that comes from both of you has ruined countless games for myself and others. I'm sure you'll use the usual arguement that you are real supporters because of going to every game, but at the end of the day it doesn't matter when you both act like stupid wee boys.

I recommend the ballet-it's very refined! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 12:30:44
QUOTE(Malt @ Aug 14 2008, 11:26 AM) [snapback]494527[/snapback]
On the topic of the match last night it was pretty easy for us and we were happy to play arond with the ball.

Man of the Match for me was Ryan McGuffie. Does a lot of work that he does not get credit for. He breaks up play, tracks back and is constantly going forward.

Looking at East Stirling I thought they were very poor and their best player was John Hillcoat who saved them a few times. They had 4 or 5 very lightweight midgets in their team. Kind of guys McInally would like to attract to Cappielow.

End of the day...can't fault them for their effort wink.gif


Agree!
QUOTE(El gofer @ Aug 14 2008, 11:31 AM) [snapback]494532[/snapback]
Have to say this is sad stuff if true.
Have disagreed with some things that the boys have done previously, which Toby himself held his hands up for, but knowing them relatively well, ie having a couple of beers with them after the game, I know that they are no more or less vociferous than many others and have given the ton great support.

I find this very very strange.

I think it's come from the 'Shire' and not Morton.

QUOTE(irnbru @ Aug 14 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]494544[/snapback]
Its not the shouting i mind but the personal abuse of our own players, arguing eith fellow supporters, stating that they won't cheer when one of the players they don't like score, etc, etc, that annoys me. I'm sure a good majority of fans agree if they've stood near these guys at a game.

You are as entitled to be upset as they are to make their feelings heard-either be upset or move away!
mortonjag 2008-08-14 12:41:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 14 2008, 03:40 AM) [snapback]494440[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

Doesn't look like a PROPER university to me.

Your thoughts please.

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The 'University' is not in Britain Newt! rolleyes.gif

It is my considered opinion, based on personal experience, and on that of a family member who interacts with professors day and daily, that some 40-50% are eccentric, with half of those 'tuned to the moon'.

That's in a Proper University! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 12:49:05


QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 14 2008, 10:01 AM) [snapback]494505[/snapback]
That's not the view the the Nats, it's the view of one Nat. rolleyes.gif

Why do you people continually refer to Colkitto's postings as being representative all Nationalists?

It's OK, no need to answer that, it's obvious.

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Sauce for the goose!
mortonjag 2008-08-14 12:55:18
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 13 2008, 08:57 PM) [snapback]494277[/snapback]
Ok, what's more erotic, cleavage or protruding nipples (through clothing) ?

You've been watching Sir Cliff singing in the rain Spurtle!

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 14 2008, 01:15 AM) [snapback]494415[/snapback]
Brandy Taylor says hi

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI'd imagine that to an inveterate massive booby sooker those grotesque balloons would signify a three course dinner.
mortonjag 2008-08-14 13:04:38 The wonderful thing about this forum is that it's so hard to know when folk are tongue in cheek-or should that be tonguing cheeks? unsure.gif

Gays are undoubtedly in the minority, and like all minority groups they can either fight the inevitable persecution from the narrow minded, or try to remain 'invisible' and 'straight'.


I can't abide OTT minority groups of any kind, be they PC, Gay Rights, or 'Green'. They are ALMOST as hard to understand as those who KNOW the majority is right! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 13:14:29 As always, some are 'jumping the gun'. It's maybe not well known that I have little respect for the regime at Morton, but I believe the Steward may have delivered a mixed message.

If Fr. Rae had wanted Toby out he could have done it long ago. Sounds like JM/MC either did this on their own or bit the old fud's ear last night.

Morton can 'ban' Toby from Cappielow if they wish. I'd imagine that if they DARE, somebody will be starting a petition, somebody will be writing to the local press, etc., etc.

As I said-let's wait for the full story. blush.gif

Edit: just saw Toby's post! blink.gif

I really hope that the regular abuse Mortonjag's been receiving from that excoriated bawbag Mabawsa has not been the work of a respected employee of G.M.F.C! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 13:33:15
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Aug 14 2008, 01:20 PM) [snapback]494600[/snapback]
About time the wee wanks got thrown out!

I have no problem with little folk masturbating-are you always intolerant? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 13:39:11
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Aug 14 2008, 01:35 PM) [snapback]494612[/snapback]
Technically incorrect - they never got in to be chucked out! rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

Part of the reason I attended last nights game was actually to hear the "banter" that I knew would be coming from Toby and Gerry. As the main instigators of the TTG (Time To Go/Totally Toby Gerry) Campaign I would have thought that a certain management team (using the term in its loosest sense) would have come in for a mountain of abuse. If I did not like how they conduct themselves then I would stand as far away from them as possible. I have never heard anything from the duo that could possibly qualify for a FBO - absolutely ludicrous. If there are any moves towards this then I will be one of the first to staff the barricades...

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The Donkey and the Monkey stand united-this is an historic occasion! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 13:45:59
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 14 2008, 01:13 PM) [snapback]494593[/snapback]
I don't know if you remember, you probably don't, but we had a discussion on here a while ago about the term 'Nationalist' used to describe those who favour independence.

The SNP are of course the Scottish National Party, and therefore use of the term 'Nationalist' to describe their supporters is inaccurate and of course has negative extreme right-wing connotations.

Fot that reason I've never liked the term to describe myself and those like me.

Of course!

I was referring to the term 'you people'-used by your good self to describe ??? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 13:50:41
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Aug 14 2008, 12:46 PM) [snapback]494562[/snapback]
Just been accepted into Politics at Strathclyde, despite not meeting all the conditions of my conditional offer! biggrin.gif

I'm taking a gap year before going anyway, now to get a job...



QUOTE(leyTON @ Aug 14 2008, 01:36 PM) [snapback]494614[/snapback]
thought i had a fellow long haired chum in my course there craig, till i read the last line



And the Viking too?


I can just see the three of you in thirty years time-each having followed the most pragmatic course for self advancement, knocking lumps out of each other at Holyrood, and getting pissed together at Hospitality in the Douglas Rae Memorial Stadium!
mortonjag 2008-08-14 13:56:17
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 14 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]494581[/snapback]
What's a "gay"?

–noun
7. a homosexual person, esp. a male.
mortonjag 2008-08-14 14:02:58 To Kermit's Daddy!

Enjoy laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 14:07:12
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Aug 14 2008, 01:57 PM) [snapback]494635[/snapback]
And they say that the elderly aren't out of touch these days rolleyes.gif tongue.gif

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I haven't time to go through the bloody Kennel Club register every month.
mortonjag 2008-08-14 14:13:06
QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 14 2008, 02:06 PM) [snapback]494639[/snapback]
Any good vantage points?

Arthur's seat? smile.gif :
mortonjag 2008-08-14 14:30:21
QUOTE(Cult Hero @ Aug 14 2008, 12:39 PM) [snapback]494557[/snapback]
Seconded. Two of them however are for cheating. rolleyes.gif

Alleged!

QUOTE(Cult Hero @ Aug 14 2008, 01:05 PM) [snapback]494580[/snapback]
Of course it is, and we've played so few games too. And I think I also mentioned last night about Wakey's bookings for unsporting behaviour which are just idiotic. No matter what you say your never going to change a refs desision, unless of course you can slip Craig Thomson a cheeky fiver.

Last night's refereeing was a farce.

I think that in Mr Thomson's case (assuming he were amenable) smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif £5000 would be more accurate! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 14:36:44
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Aug 14 2008, 02:15 PM) [snapback]494642[/snapback]
GT, I know a few guys who stand in the shed, not that far from G&T, and TBH, after almost every game, the phrase" bore the bollox aff us.." usually raises its head. Now, If it were I who were next to them, why the hell should it be me who moves? just out of curiousity? I dont normally go to the shed anymore-miss it big time I have to say, but I have witnessed some of what other posters have mentioned, and you know, telling someone" if YOU dont like what you hear, then move away.." is IMO unfair,

I dont now hear any of whats meant to go on, so when I do read on here, it becomes upsetting to the extent, that its the same two guys mentioned.....Victimisation? I think not..precedent set? yes!!! It would be more than a coincidence for the same 2 names to get drawn out of a hat dont you think? mind you both guys are big enough and ugly enough to voice their own opinions..as we all should be...and usually are...

One final thing....Hamiltons Fergus...anyone remember him? he well and truely was banned from every ground in scotland....but he was bloody hilarious......

Vader-there are stewards and Polis at every Ton match-they get PAID to sort out what is or is not acceptable!

Simple really! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 14:43:32
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 14 2008, 01:54 PM) [snapback]494632[/snapback]
The 'Nat' bashers. blush.gif

Oh that homogeneous bunch. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 15:35:03
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Aug 14 2008, 02:50 PM) [snapback]494676[/snapback]
Those views are like night and day amongst them...

I presume you mean there is no consistency-well it's nice to know that some folk are allowed to exercise their own judgement and discretion.

You claim that certain fans annoy certain others by indulging in behaviour which is apparently acceptable to the accepted law enforcement. Then so be it!

You claim that the former should 'move on'. Well Vader, it just doesn't work that way. I don't make a fuss verbally at matches, but I sure rattle a few cages on here, and I'm defending Toby's-or anybody else's right to make his views heard within accepted limits-just as I do on here.

I've had plenty trying to muffle me too-I'm still here, and I'm damned sure Toby will still be at Cappielow if I have anything to do with it.
mortonjag 2008-08-14 15:37:00
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 14 2008, 03:33 PM) [snapback]494691[/snapback]
The Police are absolutely useless. Two wee boys and a girl, couldn't be older than 13, were standing smoking in the Cowshed last Saturday, stewards and Police just turned a blind eye.

NEVER unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 15:48:22
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Aug 14 2008, 02:56 PM) [snapback]494679[/snapback]
Mortonjag in bitter comments about rich, successful people shock.

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mortonjag 2008-08-14 15:59:46
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 14 2008, 03:01 PM) [snapback]494680[/snapback]
Do you mean clever gay people, like Oscar Wilde? laugh.gif The auld pedagogue is hostile to most things these days.

Indianabam tolerates fools poorly-tis true-hardly a cardinal sin on this massage board! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 16:05:56
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Aug 14 2008, 03:48 PM) [snapback]494706[/snapback]
This isnt a case of 'one voice out weights that of the many' why should the many move to make life easier for the few? I aint sayin people should NOT have views, were would we be without them?

They shouldn't-they should stay put and demonstrate the tolerance you claim to uphold! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 16:38:17
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Aug 14 2008, 04:15 PM) [snapback]494736[/snapback]
TBH, Its no claim, its fact, I am just as stubborn if not more than the other, Thats partly what makes me angry..stand up to it if it makes you annoyed. Not on here....if someone peaves me at a game I'll say so, not wait till I get home on a bloody keyboard.. mad.gif

Vader you're confusing me-if not yourself-I thought you wanted to DENY Toby the right to speak his mind at the games!

If anybody peeves me at a game it'll be a first-I've been a stand man for as long as I can remember, and they're quite a civilised bunch. The people who peeve me are to all intents and purposes unassailable by normal means. This wee massage board is, however, occasionally noted by them! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 16:41:57
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 14 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]494724[/snapback]
Hmmmmmmmm, I'm not so sure. dry.gif

Constant anger and scorn of others is more likely to be a symptom or inner discontent.

I can recommend therapy!
mortonjag 2008-08-14 17:37:06
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Aug 14 2008, 04:45 PM) [snapback]494752[/snapback]
Right.....I am not trying to DENY anyone of their right to speak their mind, I am All for constuctive critisim....In the past....let us say for speak sake..this has never applied, the majority of the time, to toby. End of. IMO... dry.gif

It's all in the opinion of the person assessing the constructiveness, Vader.

The TTG campaign seemed pretty constructively critical of a man who had been taking us for a ride for three seasons! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 17:57:40
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 14 2008, 05:21 PM) [snapback]494778[/snapback]
I'm not convinced.

In my experience angry and intolerant people are rarely happy people.

Cheer up!
mortonjag 2008-08-14 18:03:31 This is the foul sort of stuff which sickens decent posters. Port-ton and I had a discussion about it the other night after our usual wee liaison. How could any man let a WOMAN sook his knob? mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 18:18:19
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 14 2008, 06:01 PM) [snapback]494790[/snapback]
No need MJ, for today I'm a cheery wee chappy as always. I'm at peace with myself and the hand that God has dealt me. biggrin.gif

I have two.
mortonjag 2008-08-14 21:11:36
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Aug 14 2008, 07:45 PM) [snapback]494898[/snapback]
HAMILTON ACCIES FAN 'FERGIE'........But spend more than the 90-minute lifespan of a football match in the company of Hamilton heckler Fergie, very occasionally referred to by his Sunday name of IAN RUSSELL and you'll discover that he's not the mad old loon he's generally portrayed as.

Pulls at my heartstrings that quote!


Anyway-somebody's f*cked Toby up, and until we know the full story, we can but speculate.

It's NOT speculation, however, that he's upset 'the powers that be' in the past. The powers that be have a history of not liking the boat rocked. If this has merely been the vindictive action of ex employees of GMFC it's just sad and daft. If it's been deliberate action by 'the Club', I believe 'the Club' has well and truly shot himself in the foot AGAIN!


If, as Toby has suggested, this has been a viperous and unauthorised abuse of minion power-let the culprit take everything that such behaviour deserves from his employer right down to this board's humblest poster.!
mortonjag 2008-08-14 21:35:06
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 14 2008, 07:07 PM) [snapback]494831[/snapback]
Would that be three aces or three hooses? laugh.gif

WHAT CAN LITTLE HANDS DO?
Oh, what can little hands do To please the King of heaven ?
The little hands some work may try
To help the poor in misery : Such grace to mine be given!
Oh, what can little lips do
To please the King of heaven ?
The little lips can praise and pray,
And gentle words of kindness say :
Such grace to mine be given!
Oh, what can little eyes do
To please the King of heaven ? The little eyes can upward look, Can learn to read God's Holy Book: Such grace to mine be given!
Oh, what can little hearts do
To please the King of heaven ? The hearts, if God his Spirit send, Can love and trust the children's Friend Such grace to mine be given!
Though small is all that we cau do
To please the King of heaven,
When hearts and hands and lips unite
To serve the Saviour with delight, They are most precious in his sight:
Such grace to mine be given! angel.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 21:42:52
QUOTE(Pedro_c @ Aug 14 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]494941[/snapback]
So if Murray is number 6 in the world at his job and is rubbish, then how good a doctor were you? Number 5 at least I take it?

It must be terrible for Murray to know there are only 5 people, who on average, in the whole planet, are better than him.

Ya old fud.

I am No 1 old fud in the world! laugh.gif

QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 14 2008, 08:59 PM) [snapback]494954[/snapback]
How is he overrated? He's legitimately rated 6th in the world, I don't think people would conciously rate him higher than that.

Were you dissapointed to learn of his victory in the Cincinatti Masters earlier this month? A tournament of higher value than the olympics in terms of ranking points?

Jumped up? He's generally modest enough and gives other players respect. He gets a bit annimated on court, but that's just some people's way of dealing with pressure.
Money-grabbing? Explain? Because he is a world class sports star he makes a decent living. You are jealous?

I am bitterly jealous of a sad child whose Mummy still has him in invisible nappies, and who may wake up in ten years time and wonder what it was all about! rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Aug 14 2008, 09:31 PM) [snapback]494971[/snapback]
Murray is a great ambassador for Scottish sport, the Union Jack stunt was just PR to win over the English counterparts.

On the other hand, I think he has the potential to become Champ of Wimbeldon. MJ you do indeed sound a jealous man wink.gif

Aye-worked a f*ckin' treat that did! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 21:49:02
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 14 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]494973[/snapback]
I'd cut out the middle man and take my mate into the toilet and get him to suck me off.

Unfaithful little trollop-wait till Deego hears about this. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 21:57:28
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Aug 14 2008, 07:41 PM) [snapback]494891[/snapback]
Thank Bryan - my Internet provider is Scottish Gas , I'll get it eventually then.

I thought they were your scriptwriters! blush.gif

mortonjag 2008-08-14 22:04:18
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 14 2008, 09:59 PM) [snapback]495016[/snapback]
Correct
Bit of juice on juice is fine, but what's appealling to any woman about two guys ramming it up each others s***er rip.gif

They employ contortionists to entertain! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 22:07:24
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 14 2008, 10:02 PM) [snapback]495026[/snapback]
You quite like bosoms, the bigger the better?

Ah, the aspirations of today's youngsters-Casanova and Atlas all rolled into one! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 22:09:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 14 2008, 09:53 PM) [snapback]494999[/snapback]
Me and him finished ages ago, he just couldnt satisfy me. He's now with GreacensGenitals. The poster i mean, he isn't sucking on some ginger soorplooms just now.

Serious question-is LeyTON a fag?



I know he's a POOR student! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 23:10:05
QUOTE(cmdc @ Aug 14 2008, 11:02 PM) [snapback]495083[/snapback]
If it came from Morton it seems harsh, and deserves an explanation. If it was from McInally I think, and I'm going purely on what I've read here in the past, you probably just need to take it on the chin, unfair as it may be.

It purportedly came 'from Morton'.

What if it came from an unauthorised person associated with Morton? How would you deal with that?
mortonjag 2008-08-14 23:13:07
QUOTE(hoby @ Aug 14 2008, 10:54 PM) [snapback]495077[/snapback]
How can it be out of date to know how to add, subtract, divide and multiply?

In an age when folk know the price of everything and the value of nothing, the calculator is King! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 23:30:51
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 14 2008, 11:05 PM) [snapback]495085[/snapback]
Rather Graphic description there, but agreed.

Funny how all the wee misgivings and prejudices are popping out!

Just think of the enormous pleasure one gets from doing a humungous keech!

The positive feedback from one's rectum is undeniable- indeed, some folk 'milk' the experience, warming the pan for countless ages whilst pondering Oor Wullie or the Broons prior to that final moment of orgasmic ecstasy as they sadly say 'goodbye' to their old friend as he departs on his long journey to the seaside.

It's hardly a quantum leap to imagine a similar physical experience in reverse! blush.gif

Furthermore, a standing knob has no conscience-it's like food-sometimes what looks worst tastes best-the maxim surely is 'don't knock it till you've tried it'-or 'Any port in a storm' perhaps!

Anyway, is seems to me that those pouffes only do what comes naturally to them-many undoubtedly find the concept of heterosexual liaison repulsive-it's in the genes.

Grown men carrying handbags and wearing make up-that's totally different-I'd flog those bent Nancy boys within an inch of their lives, and top them for second offences.
mortonjag 2008-08-14 23:45:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 14 2008, 11:34 PM) [snapback]495116[/snapback]
Last-gasp rescue bid for Murray launched

Gidday mortonjag,

Saw his headline this morning and was shocked.

Then I read the article.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=614790

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The Murrays are no darlings of this poster Newt! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 23:50:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 13 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]493888[/snapback]
Perhaps our new Director will see fit to answer the Trust's letter before Christmas!

Or to make post # 700 ?

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Over 32,000 views, almost 700 replies, and suddenly a deathly hush Newt!


Was it something I said? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 07:38:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 15 2008, 12:00 AM) [snapback]495132[/snapback]
carpet ?

broom ?

under ?

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It's a wee bit worrying mind you. I stupidly imagined that the the vast interest WAS in Alistair Donald and in the future of the club for which so many of our posters CLAIM to have genuine concern. dry.gif

It now appears simply to have been an anti-Jag backlash of massive proportions! That is utterly pathetic, and is confirmed by a deafening silence from Plankton Pond.

Very funny, NOT. dry.gif

They've accused me of everything from paedophilia to attempting to take over at Cappielow!

Perhaps-those weasel minded pin brains who could turn an 80% endorsement of JM into pathological hatred in a couple of short months thought they had found a new victim! dry.gif

The message is coming through LOUD AND CLEAR.

The infrastructure at Cappielow-including involvement with the Trust- appears rotten to the core. It is hugely inefficient, and infested with sycophantic and mutual back scratching, while the ongoing 'siege ethos' is fed by insider 'spying' on our pubic massage board. Mr Rae indeed has his Resistance Movement! rip.gif

Questions may be asked. They are never answered.

Jim McColl's position is farcical, and the rest of the Trust Committee is utterly ineffectual when it comes to dealing with the club. Only half a dozen members turned up for their recent A.G.M!!!

With enthusiasm like that they won't move many mountains! laugh.gif

BUT DON'T
ask the Trust questions either, unless you shell out ten quid, and you'll still hear zilch unless you strike it lucky. The Trust and 'The Club' make comfortable bedfellows. The old Sugar Daddy has them exactly where he wants them, and they appear to feel quite comfy in their own myopic cocoon.


Mr Rae 'won a watch' when David Irons was job hunting-he struck it VERY lucky

Why can our fans not appreciate how close we came to the slippery slope AGAIN-Rae WANTED to keep JM-FACT.

DI has temporarily been his saving grace, but things will soon turn bitter without inward investment. There is NO point in an SPL compliant stadium, unless we're 'in there' and we won't be promoted this year.

Those of us who genuinely know and love Morton, have repeatedly emphasised the fact that the Club has been under performing for three decades.

Alistair Donald seems the sort of investor who could make us successful again-indeed-profitable.

He's now an official Director, and STILL the fans know NOTHING about him.

When one dares to ask the obvious question........


HE'S ABUSED BY HIS FELLOW FANS!


It's no wonder that Fr. Rae can do just as he pleases! mad.gif


mortonjag 2008-08-15 08:01:25
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 15 2008, 03:29 AM) [snapback]495158[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

I know a darling that is nearly as long as that topic.

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Cry me a river!
mortonjag 2008-08-15 08:04:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 15 2008, 05:30 AM) [snapback]495161[/snapback]
Is there anything magical about a pass rate of 50% ?
Why would anyone want to guarantee it ?

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It might have something to do with politics! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 08:10:55
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 15 2008, 07:59 AM) [snapback]495169[/snapback]
Has Mentaljag got religion? What's come over hymn?

I believe faithfully in Hire Power, and my wee generator rental business is booming.
mortonjag 2008-08-15 08:21:43
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 15 2008, 12:23 AM) [snapback]495141[/snapback]
I 've edited that for you DR laugh.gif

Never in my wildest dreams could I conscience shagging a live pouffe.
mortonjag 2008-08-15 08:31:25
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 15 2008, 08:16 AM) [snapback]495176[/snapback]
BUT DON'T ask the Trust questions either, unless you shell out ten quid, and you'll still hear zilch unless you strike it lucky.

The Trust and 'The Club' make comfortable bedfellows.

The old Sugar Daddy has them exactly where he wants them, and they appear to feel quite comfy in their own myopic cocoon.
It must be great to have a "business" with well trained and compliant minority shareholders.

mushrooms ?

dark ?

fed ?

Treated like mushrooms, kept in the dark, and fed Fudgy Wudgy? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 09:10:01
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Aug 15 2008, 08:51 AM) [snapback]495183[/snapback]
Folks,
I'm having some bother with the tannoy@gmfc.net email address at the moment, possibly due to the website host being changed.
So if you've email this week I've not received it!
Please leave any mentions/requests/travel announcements/social function details on here or email me at inverally@hotmail.com.
Thanks
Al

Live is life! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 09:12:20 What is the title of the book. Is it a naughty biography?
mortonjag 2008-08-15 09:40:12
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 15 2008, 08:32 AM) [snapback]495180[/snapback]
I think, and thought at the time when I was going through college, that a 40% pass was a bit of a gip.

To be fair I always studied hard and my plan was always to get the best mark I could get based on the knowledge I had learned, so the exam was never a stresser for me - it was only testing what I was supposed to have learned. I always scored well and it worried me when I saw people who did the bare minimum scrape through and walk away with O-grades, HNC's or degrees which effectively meant nothing. For example when I completed my HNC in Electronic Engineering I don't think I had a pass mark below 80% and the average was probably higher. There were guys there with 40%'s who were downright f***ing dangerous around electricity. But the reality is to the outside world they were no different to me - they had the certificate, so did I. Bollocks racket altogether.

When I went back to complete my business degree I found the exact same thing. I studied like a good thing, put in hours and hours on my assessments and extra curricular work, and landed a first class honours with a GPA of 3.92. (I had one B+ in there which f***ed up the run of A's - Corporate Finance paper 2 - f***ed up the equation for risk equalisation and cost myself big time - in fairness though the lecturer had some set of doo's and wore fishies so I wasn't overly inconsolable). Anyway, at the last exam which was heavy in maths content - linear programming and simplex problem solving were staple diets of the exam paper - I looked around and the w*nker next to me is having a great time folding and unfolding his shirt sleeve to reveal the methodology for solving simplex problems (which can be a c*** believe me). I remember thinking "what's the f***ing point". This was at a recognised Dublin University with the invigilator no more than ten feet away. Anyway, come results time and this tulip still only scraped through.

So from O-Grade through my HNC in Eng, through my Mgt Diploma to the BBS - nothing changed.
People who really worked did well, people who did f*** all over achieved and still got their degree.

There's always plooky little f***ers who want to put in minimum effort in the vain hope they get a qualification. A qualification which means nothing because they have learned nothing - and a qualification which in a lot of circumstances makes them a f***ing danger to themselves and others.

Who's up for being operated on by a D- brain surgeon ? I'd be terrified that even a 90% pass on that one would be unlucky - what if the 10% he f***ed up is the bit he's about to go after on you ?

Nope - education has been dumbed down over the years - for political reasons mainly, but also because I think the younger folks have less appetite for the work and the discipline. Given that they ain't going to change the institutions changed the only thing they could to keep their reputations intact - scoring and ease of exam.

I realise from this rant that I am now appear to be an angry old man - but in the spirit of my education, I'm going to be the BEST angry old f***er I can be.

GranpawBroonInDublin

I know of only one PROPER university in Dublin TiD! blush.gif


Anyway, here's my tuppenceworth in relation to yours. I agree with almost everything you've said in general terms, but some undergraduate degree courses are effectively apprenticeships, while others have only a small impact on the subsequent career.

You mentioned Neurosurgery, and that's a good example in illustration. Any Neurosurgeon will tell you that the six (or five) years spent at University is largely irrelevant to his current work. A medical degree is little more than confirmation that you're reasonably intelligent and have grasped a bit of basic knowledge. The rest is all learned after graduation. Some of the worst (laziest too) students in my year went on to outstanding careers. As fate had it, I ultimately opted for General Practice. I learned virtually EVERYTHING that mattered after I became a junior partner.

Degrees from PROPER universities-at least in terms of signifying anything more than potential, are probably worth much less in real terms than degrees from 'jumped up' colleges of knowledge where skills are actually passed on!

If only youngsters could have a clear view of what they really want from life. I certainly admire and endorse Julie Anne's decision to learn at the 'coal face'. Harking back to your original point an 'apprentice' system of training for almost all life skills would empower the eradication of the inept, the slackers, and the wasters.
mortonjag 2008-08-15 09:50:16 .......and in breaking news, a survey COMMISSIONED BY THE SCOTTISH GOVERNMENT to assess the happiness of the Nation showed the Nation is happy!


Meanwhile a large pink round headed creature with a snout, trotters, a curly tail, and a saltire hinging' oot its erse took off from the Holyrood Helipad and was last spotted heading straight for Soutar Manor.
mortonjag 2008-08-15 10:03:05
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 15 2008, 09:54 AM) [snapback]495216[/snapback]
I'm sure if the three most miserable b*****ds on the planet, name you, Paul and Tom, had taken part in this survey the results would have been somewhat different. smile.gif



I can't speak for the others but,

I'm H A P P Y
I'm H A P P Y
I know I am
I'm sure I am
I'm H A P P Y! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 10:09:38
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 15 2008, 10:00 AM) [snapback]495219[/snapback]
I agree 100% - I collected my O-grades at 16 and started with Nat-Semi as a trainee technician immediately.
One year full time at college then day release for another three till qualified (professionally and academically).
Then continue to learn your trade.

Unfortunatley Uni doesn't tech you too many life skills in and of itself.

As for only on PROPER Dublin University - I disagree - there's at least three I would class as excellent.

Suffice to say mine began with a T - don't know if that passes your sniff test or not !

TonInDublin

From that trinity, I'd imagine the one with the 'T' would be my only 'Proper' University! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 10:15:53
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 15 2008, 10:04 AM) [snapback]495226[/snapback]
Aye, just you keep telling yourself that MJ. rolleyes.gif



I'm not always convinced by the bible-take this for example


Matthew 6:27


King James Bible
Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?

I have always believed in thinking big. The power of positive thinking can be huge, and I'm HAPPY! bouncy.gif bouncy.gif thumbup2.gif smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 10:20:36
QUOTE(Muz @ Aug 15 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]495198[/snapback]
"The King of Cappielow", there was a book signing in the Spinny last Saturday as far as I am aware.

Is it ghost written?
mortonjag 2008-08-15 10:29:09
QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 15 2008, 09:48 AM) [snapback]495208[/snapback]
Surely that's the same case as myself though. I used to give folk grief at games yet if I don't anymore I'm tarred with the brush of having done it in the past just like you used to stand puffing away at your filthy little cancer sticks with scant regard for anyone else yet now you've seen the light we can now overlook that?

Toby-you've told us you and your friend were welcomed to Cappielow in the form of season tickets/invitations to renew.

You've told us you were banned from Stenny's ground -apparently on the orders of a Morton official, who planned also to ban you from Cappielow, and to attempt to have you banned from all Scottish stadia.

It's been amusing to se the usual 'kick a man when he's down' stuff. Some folk are exceedingly petty! rolleyes.gif

Anyhow-do you have an update on the situation yet?

mortonjag 2008-08-15 10:35:04
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Aug 15 2008, 09:51 AM) [snapback]495212[/snapback]
You'd shag a dead one, then? unsure.gif

A stiff is a stiff.
mortonjag 2008-08-15 11:00:08
QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 15 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]495248[/snapback]
Not to put too fine a point on it, that is exactly what I think. It's no secret what Andy Bryan and myself think of each other, I've known him all my life and we despise each other. I also received a PM from someone yesterday suggesting involvement from Tony Cowden, which wouldn't surprise me bearing in mind I belittled him on the board that morning and we've never got on.

FWIW, I think that Morton don't want me and Gerry following them as we're "difficult" to say the least. However, barring us would open a whole can of worms and as chrissiboi said would be a worrying throwback to the Scott era. Also, we're too well known (and believe it or not liked) by some prominent members of the support, that upsetting these people and turning them against the administration of the club is not good PR. Another factor as to why the club would be too scared to bar me is the incident in which I was involved at Starks Park nearly 2 years ago when I stood up to the guys giving Marvin Andrews racial abuse. These guys were in hospitality the following week and are still free to go to Cappielow. In this PC environment in which we live nowadays, the people who are generally considered to be the lowest of the low are racists. If the club were to bar me, it would be extrememly easy for me to publically point out that they tolerate this sort of behaviour and to draw comparisons between that and my own.

Gillian Donaldson has already spoke to Gerry and I missed her call yesterday (since then I've not got through to her). She told Gerry that the club "value" our support and had they wanted to ban us they had ample opportunity after incidents outside Balmoor and Forthbank, although I wasn't involved in any incident outside Balmoor unsure.gif .

She then went on to tell him that we are not barred from Cappielow and that nobody from Morton FC was involved in trying to deny us entry to Ochilview. This was round about lunchtime yesterday she told him that so how in the space of a few hours, when pressumably she hadn't interviewed everyone that travelled with the official club party on Tuesday night she could reach such a damning conclusion is beyond me. That said though, they still don't know if the players took a dive in the title race 5 years ago so what chances of them carrying out an effective investigation into something like this?



The Club's official position then is that you are still welcome-that's good.

Toby, you are your own man, but if this had happened to me I couldn't rest until I found the truth. I don't think Mr Rae would be too pleased if one of his staff had instructed your ban at Stenny without his endorsement.

If the Shire wanted to ban you to make an example, surely they would have wanted you to KNOW they were getting the boot in, rather than blaming Morton.

I smell a weasel.
mortonjag 2008-08-15 11:03:38 I'm predicting a shut out for Cuthbert.

I reckon we're worth two. Newby's due a goal, and how about Jenkins?
mortonjag 2008-08-15 11:06:13
QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 15 2008, 11:04 AM) [snapback]495259[/snapback]
Rest assured I won't.

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mortonjag 2008-08-15 11:56:05
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 14 2008, 10:04 PM) [snapback]495030[/snapback]
Not really. As long as they're not ridiculously out of proportion like WillowMans I'm happy. wub.gif



Willy Man in drag!
mortonjag 2008-08-15 12:08:40
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 15 2008, 12:04 AM) [snapback]495133[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

Now, I am confused.

How often do Morton FC hold board meetings overseas ?

And when they do is Golden Casket able to find new export markets for their sweeties ?

Or is Mr Donald out of the country on Golden Casket business ?

Mortonjag, you need to write a book - a wee thriller it could be.

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Mr Donald apparently resides in the Home Counties. Spurtle et al would confirm that that is 'Out of the country'! laugh.gif

QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Aug 15 2008, 01:23 AM) [snapback]495148[/snapback]
So what we now know is that Alistair Donald was either a director, co-opted director or designated director (or all three for that matter) and appointed to the Morton F.C. Board sometime between January and July of this year.

I await with much interest his response to the Trust letter.

I'm also looking forward to another visit from Santa Claus.

Not QUITE true-he was appointed on 1st July. That's what he told Companies House when he came back into the country when he got round to signing form 288a.


I reckon that's just over five months after we were told we had a new director. Using that formula, there's a good chance the Trust will get a reply before Christmas!

I DO hope they sent the letter by recorded delivery. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 12:36:21
QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 15 2008, 12:20 PM) [snapback]495289[/snapback]
Six years ago, and we've been at every game at East Stirling or Stenhousemuir since so it's extremely unlikely we'd be recognised.

I've since spoke to Gillian Donaldson, was given a load of spiel and a 20 minute argument ensued. She's now phoning East stirling "on my behalf" to get to the bottom of it.

Funny how the club "value" our support, yet are not prepared to investigate our allegations that a member of staff has diliberately tried to stop us gaining access to a ground to watch Morton. You'd think they'd have some sort of duty of care to customers, yet, anything involving one of their own getting his knuckles wrapped is swiftly swept under the carpet.


That sounds probable.
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 15 2008, 12:29 PM) [snapback]495292[/snapback]
Whon said it was someone from Morton Football Club? I suspect it lies with East Stirling. Why were you arguing with Gillian, is she not doing her best to help you out?

Why on earth would the Shire need to blame Morton, and why would they concoct a story about Morton intending to have them banned from Cappielow and every other Scottish ground?
mortonjag 2008-08-15 12:42:04
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 15 2008, 12:30 PM) [snapback]495294[/snapback]
ohmy.gif ohmy.gif Oh ffs! ohmy.gif

Oops-mistaken identity?

I heard his twin brother's were smaller. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 12:46:46
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 14 2008, 11:09 PM) [snapback]495090[/snapback]
Due to hard times he started to sell his body for sex ohmy.gif

He's a proper RentBoy now and student life is getting in the way of him getting his backdoor kicked in several times a night.

So to answer your question MJ Leyton is a threat to your relationship with your Pouffe partner rolleyes.gif

Every man has his price!
mortonjag 2008-08-15 12:50:26
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 15 2008, 12:39 PM) [snapback]495301[/snapback]
I think he should contact East Stirling directly HIMSELF, stop listening to all this he said she said s***. I know i would.

He may well have done so, and they may well have passed the buck to Morotn whom they claim were responsible! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 13:35:03
QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 15 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]495318[/snapback]
Gillian's been in contact with Les Thompson at East Stirling who tells her that there was an incident in the bar before the game and we were asked to leave.

As I've said before this is not the case although it would seemingly clear anyone from Morton of blame, at least in East Stirling's eyes. However, the stewards did tell us that an official of Morton told them not to let us in so clearly someone's lying, I'll have to get in touch with East Stirling for them to confirm.

She took on board my points about minions with agendas and said it's not the case having spoken to them. would always expect them to deny it though. Apparently nobody within Cappielow has anything personal against us, which I don't believe to be the case obviously.

I'll be allowed into tomorrow's game barring exceptional circumstances (i.e. I turn up roaring drunk, which won't be the case as I'm working at night), but tbh for the first time in my life I don't even want to go. I probably will go, but my feelings towards Morton are at an all time low.

Lucky boys then!!! This is from P & B! laugh.gif






Mabawsa_Ritchie

May 28 2008, 17:09
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Hear, hear! MJ is an utter t*rd who has spoiled the Morton unofficial site. His dislike of our Chairman is bordering on the psychotic. Not at all funny, and not half as clever as he thinks he is (he is NOT a Doctor BTW).









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mortonjag 2008-08-15 13:49:45
QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 15 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]495330[/snapback]
This was brought to the public's attention long before I "spouted" anything off. you may care to note that I mentioned earlier that his season ticket hasn't been returned, although I think he should have, no point in not carrying out a threat etc.

Of course it was something to do with a member of staff at East Stirling, they're all very well aware of McInally's two most vocal critics from his previous club. Unless we were involved in some trouble at the bar?


There are still two sides to the story.

1/ What WAS said to you and witnessed, and the reasons given AT THE TIME.

2/ What is now being claimed is the true version, after officials from both clubs have had the opportunity to discuss the matter.

I know which version I choose to believe! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 13:56:25
QUOTE(Benny Boy @ Aug 15 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]495324[/snapback]
So it's Saturday 11 to 12 at Smiths then?

By the way, Mortonjag, can you please stop polluting threads like this with your random garbage. You are just not a funny guy.

I asked if it is an autobiography or if it has a 'ghost writer' Thankfully JonaTON has had the wit and intelligence to understand plain English.

Will you now be blaming me for the cancellation too? rip.gif thumbdown.gif crying.gif eek.gif nerd.gif bag.gif 1eye.gif wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 13:59:58
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Aug 15 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]495333[/snapback]
What time is this cancellation at, and where is it being canceled?

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Benny boy may have a good answer for that random and unfunny splurge! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 15:12:43
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jun 18 2008, 10:02 PM) [snapback]462187[/snapback]
Only someone with the true interests of Morton a heart would do that. This is MJ we're talking about.

Hmm.

QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jun 18 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]462188[/snapback]
Danny, Alistair Donald is still a non-Exec Director of Morton FC. Nothing has changed, despite MJ's best efforts to suggest otherwise. As an ex-civil servant, I can assure you that Companies House is as efficient as the Home Office in their keeping records up-to-date. smile.gif

As a retired G.P. let me assure you that you come over as a self satisfied 'nobody' who thinks he knows far more than he does! smile.gif

QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jun 18 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]462205[/snapback]
What stuff? As regards the Donald issue, is Morton responsible for the efficient running of Companies House now?

Nope scrote scratcher-Companies House was correct all along it seems!!! bouncy.gif

QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jun 21 2008, 10:20 PM) [snapback]464461[/snapback]
Not quite correct Danny as I think I confirmed unequivocally that Mr Donald is still a non-executive Director of GMFC Ltd. smile.gif

Was that a DELIBERATE lie or just another of your endless 'mistakes'? dry.gif

QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jun 27 2008, 07:34 PM) [snapback]467741[/snapback]
Did Crawford Rae not say it was due to Mr Donald being out of the country? mellow.gif

Oh yes he did, and at the time I was unaware that the FORM COULD HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED ON LINE. I'm surprised that YOU didn't know that too-AND Crawford, and AD!

QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jun 27 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]467866[/snapback]
How would anyone on here know that? Why don't you email Crawford Rae like your pal MJ? laugh.gif laugh.gif

You seemed to know EVERYTHING up till then! I was SO disappointed in you at that point! rolleyes.gif



P.S.

There are several posters who have disappeared off this thread like snow from the proverbial dyke.

You were far from the worst offender and I'm sorry to have singled you out scrotum scratcher, but up until today I believed you were a bona fide private poster. Now it appears you are on Mr Rae's payroll.

Please accept my most humble apologies if anything I've said or implied is incorrect, but unlike your good self, mortonjag is rarely wrong.


Oh, and regarding that wee post on P & B. which I quoted on the current 'Toby' thread.

In future before you make statements of 'fact' about my professional qualifications-please check your details! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 15:24:36
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Aug 15 2008, 02:08 PM) [snapback]495337[/snapback]
Yes, bu this isnt the X-Files MJ, although some of it is going that way blink.gif

Really!! laugh.gif

The Jag has a 'nose' for the truth Vader-trained to carefully observe symptoms and signs, collate information, and make prognosis. This thread links quite nicely with the Alistair Donald one on that basis.

Simple really-if Shire had it in for Toby and Gerry, they'd have taken pleasure in making that VERY obvious, rather than blaming the Ton.

Toby has proposed an explanation (supported by some private information), which I find infinitely more plausible. Again there is a link to my latest posting on the AD thread. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 16:55:33
QUOTE(cmdc @ Aug 15 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]495362[/snapback]
Isn't that simply because the thread has run its course? There was an issue, correctly raised, that has now been answered. Not filling the form out online doesn't seem like an issue, nor can any amount of activity on this thread shed any more light on his intentions than those he has already made public in the 'Tele. Beyond that, there doen't seem much left to discuss.

There is a share issue 'on the go' -a share issue which was launched on the understanding that Mr Donald was a Director of the Club at a time when in fact he had no responsibility in that capacity.

The Club went to some lengths to reassure fans that he WAS a Director when he was not. The Club published his name on its official Programme as a Director when he was not.

That would all have made sense had Mr Donald given his date of appointment as January. He did not.

The Trust has apparently asked legitimate questions as the fans 'shareholder' and requested a reply. That has not been forthcoming. Several posters and potential investors have expressed a desire to know if Mr Donald intends to purchase shares. Their questions remain unanswered. Several posters are still extremely suspicious of potential new investment in the post Scott years. They have received no reassurance. The questions I posed initially remain unanswered. I don't think the thread has run its course!



QUOTE(Bryan @ Aug 15 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]495367[/snapback]
you or anyone can ask us anything you like and we can try and get you an answer smile.gif

laugh.gif OK-What's the score with Alistair Donald? blush.gif

QUOTE(maccaboy @ Aug 15 2008, 03:51 PM) [snapback]495375[/snapback]
I've avoided this thread for weeks, and having finally scanned it today it seems to me that the above post sums things up very nicely. Old Dr Knowall has long since had his question answered but continues, with some assistance, to make a mountain where a molehill would've been more than was justified. Any time interest flags he lobs yet another stone at the wasps' nest he's created and then stands back to laugh at the angry response that follows.

FFS, guys, take a look at the bloody thing - over 700 posts and about 32,500 "hits" (albeit 90% or so will have been from about 30 people) - for gawd's sake let it lie, don't rise to the old clown stirring it up any more and move on.......
*edited to add - if you should decide to respond to this, Moronjag, you'll be wasting your time as far as I'm concerned - I won't be back on this thread, and ye'r blocked anyway. Life on here is sooo much better thanks to the "huff button " - I commend its use to one and all.

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mortonjag 2008-08-15 17:03:30
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Aug 15 2008, 04:43 PM) [snapback]495390[/snapback]
laugh.gif Good god jag, that is arrogant even for you! You can now sniff out the truth because you used to be doctor! You should make a tv show starring you about a doctor that solves crimes, oh wait, there is one, Diagnosis Murder i believe, starring D1ck Van Dyke. Next you'l be be saying thats loosely based on your life story!
What has happened to us!!!? Since when do we call fellow Ton fans moronic for slagging off a referee? Iv really heard it all now.

Your claim-not mine! I merely alluded to my training, and to the FACT that I have a nose for the truth. If the truth EVER comes out, we shall see if I am correct or not! smile.gif

QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 15 2008, 04:54 PM) [snapback]495393[/snapback]
I'm not, and I have the certificate to prove it biggrin.gif

If Dunoon Ton's opinion of my ability is anything to go on Weegie, you'd be as well tearing up that wee 'favour' I did for you! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 17:37:30
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 15 2008, 05:04 PM) [snapback]495399[/snapback]
General Nonsense for this pish surely.

General Morton Chatter for this debate.

Do you have anything sensible to contribute, or is this just a further example of resentment? biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 17:44:49
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 15 2008, 05:10 PM) [snapback]495406[/snapback]
laugh.gif Don't make me go back there. You promised laugh.gif

You won't go back Weegie-you can trust me. Everybody should trust me! blush.gif

QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 15 2008, 05:18 PM) [snapback]495415[/snapback]
Therein lies a major problem though. I can only speak for myself, as I've not discussed this with Gerry, but I don't know if I can enjoy supporting Morton from now on. There's no point in lying, I will be at Cappielow tomorrow, whether I want to go or not, but will be going with a massive chip on my shoulder. The feeling of mistrust between both parties is massive, and all my energies are getting channelled negatively towards the club.

Morton have effectively sent out a message imo that we are allowed to go to games but are not welcome at games. I told Gillian that I believe they want to ban us but won't because of the negative reaction it would receive from supporters' who back us up and whilst she said that's not the case I definitely feel there's something in that.

It reminds me of two cases. First of all was a good mate of mine, capitanus. After years of going to hick-towns like Alloa, Forfar and Cowdenbeath; the minute we were promoted, he just chucked it and went as far as to say he's not even a Morton fan such was his dismay at the running of the club. This was after success had finally been achieved. The other is of the guy on P & B who purports to being a former St. Mirren fan, Stuart Dickson. Such is his resentment to them that he posts constantly on there about how much he hates them. I don't think I could be like that, but it's a very sad day for me when I'm asking myself whether or not I'm a Morton fan

The relationship between the club and supporters in general is abysmal. It's hardly surprising that you feel alienated for speaking your mind. Don't they hate us when we tell the truth! blush.gif

QUOTE(cmdc @ Aug 15 2008, 05:35 PM) [snapback]495426[/snapback]
For the little that it's worth, I would think after Forthbank (and again I'm only going by what I've read on here) I think the fact that they are not particularly welcoming you to games is understandable. Going by what I've read on here, by your own accounts, you crossed a line, and although you had the guts to hold your hands up to that I can't say it is unreasonable of the club to hold you in some disregard. Nor for that matter do I think you ought to be banned or anything like that. Like I said on a previous post, I think you just need to accept that particular relationship as it is, and see if you can enjoy what goes on on the park in the meantime.

Aye-he dared to make his feelings felt-and he was CORRECT!
mortonjag 2008-08-15 17:49:50
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 15 2008, 03:39 PM) [snapback]495368[/snapback]
Its a biography I think, the guy who wrote it is from Hartlepool and I remember there being an article about it in the Tele a few months ago.

TY. Andy was truly a 'Morton Great', and something of an enigma. If Jock Stein had had more patience he might well have gone on to greater things. From a selfish viewpoint I'm so glad he didn't. I'll definitely be reading the book.
mortonjag 2008-08-15 17:57:46
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Aug 15 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]495380[/snapback]
On yer byke, you - and watch you don't get hives

That is just SO witty that I've just pished myself laughing. I suspect you have intimate knowledge of insects! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 18:00:16
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 15 2008, 04:14 PM) [snapback]495381[/snapback]
Never trust someone who claims to be happy. mad.gif thumbdown.gif

Never trust distrustful people-they are sad b*stards.
mortonjag 2008-08-15 18:03:07
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 15 2008, 12:45 PM) [snapback]495305[/snapback]
She will need a bloody wheelbarrow to cart them around! ohmy.gif

It's so true MrsT. All very well for those eager young men to drool at massive jugs, but they've made many a woman's life a huge burden.
mortonjag 2008-08-15 18:06:35
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 15 2008, 05:08 PM) [snapback]495403[/snapback]
Is MJ outing himself? unsure.gif

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDMortonjag has an open mind.
mortonjag 2008-08-15 18:21:29
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 15 2008, 06:10 PM) [snapback]495448[/snapback]
I believe all boobies should be judged on their own merits. Size is irrelevant.

King James Bible
And said unto him, Hearest thou what these say? And Jesus saith unto them, Yea; have ye never read, Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings thou hast perfected praise?
mortonjag 2008-08-15 18:24:17
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 15 2008, 05:12 PM) [snapback]495409[/snapback]
It's listed in the "What's On" column in the Daily Record today Davie.

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Good old McArthur gets more publicity that the Ton!
mortonjag 2008-08-15 18:57:39
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 15 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]495454[/snapback]
Well, you are at that age.... wink.gif

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There is no need to discuss mortonjag's medical details on a pubic massage board. He is still totally continent of faeces-well almost totally. tongue.gif He can sit here for hours without having to visit the little boys' room.
mortonjag 2008-08-15 19:35:21
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 15 2008, 07:12 PM) [snapback]495463[/snapback]
Get off your cross. Nobody's dancing on his grave.

Has he been interred already?
mortonjag 2008-08-15 19:40:01 WANTED-GRAND PIANO-for lady with Queen Anne legs.
mortonjag 2008-08-15 19:53:21
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 15 2008, 07:36 PM) [snapback]495469[/snapback]
That's because we're not fronted by a grump old man....oh, wait...... rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-15 20:39:17
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 15 2008, 07:58 PM) [snapback]495475[/snapback]
just to make it clear that we're all talking about the same thing here, please define:

1) the 'share issue'

2) 'on the go' (apparently it's open for 5 years?)

3) the understanding

and what difference it makes to you personally (from an investment perspective). it's not clear to me whether you have a legitimate interest or whether you're just playing with your spurtle.

basically, you're miffed that you still don't know what's in alistair's handbag. laugh.gif

you have tried asking him, haven't you? laugh.gif

Before I make anything clear Alistair, I desperately know if you have yet sent that impacted old friend off to the seaside.

QUOTE(Bryan @ Aug 15 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]495476[/snapback]
we have asked smile.gif when we know you will tongue.gif

Thank you Brian!
mortonjag 2008-08-15 20:50:21
QUOTE(Bryan @ Aug 15 2008, 08:41 PM) [snapback]495480[/snapback]
but if you spell my name wrong i dunno if i will ph34r.gif

I apologise profusely-that must be a first-suffice to say that I've been dealing with a medical problem for the previous poster and was somewhat distracted!

I promise it will not happen ever again! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 21:03:00
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 15 2008, 08:55 PM) [snapback]495484[/snapback]
which quasi-english language are we trying to speak here?

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rolleyes.gif

My brother sends his regards and enquires after the pigmented mole on your scrotum. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 21:06:22
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 15 2008, 08:14 PM) [snapback]495477[/snapback]
Rating, sorted. wink.gif

Your a dab hand with the ratings MrsT-well seen Greenock's a seaport! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 21:10:10
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 15 2008, 09:04 PM) [snapback]495488[/snapback]
well no, you haven't been dealing with it laugh.gif

We have been talking at cross purposes it would appear-I could swear I sent the stuff to Trumpington-now I'm thinking it may have gone to Watlington! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 21:21:25 I see David McGregor's having a hernia operation! Hopefully it will ensure rupturous applause on his return to fitness.
mortonjag 2008-08-15 21:26:32
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 15 2008, 09:20 PM) [snapback]495496[/snapback]
:yawn:

i presume you were able to read and understand the earlier post, spurtle?

I can think of very few of your posts which have been intelligible Bawheid-I'm rather preoccupied with the destination of that package. Hopefully the future of the Ton is not about to be blown to smithereens.
mortonjag 2008-08-15 21:41:26
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 15 2008, 09:33 PM) [snapback]495501[/snapback]
bawheid is another (and sorely missed) poster mad.gif

your silence is welcome, if uninvited tongue.gif

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In the same vein Letitia

1/ What is the most common cause of a black hairy tongue?


2/ Which IUCD would you recommend for the nulliparous?


3/ How would you treat toxic shock syndrome? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 21:45:02
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 15 2008, 09:36 PM) [snapback]495502[/snapback]
that joke doesn't work, even after it's been edited tongue.gif

Don't try to second guess the editor-miracles are possible to the faithful.
mortonjag 2008-08-15 21:48:13
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 15 2008, 09:28 PM) [snapback]495500[/snapback]
it's a somewhat questionable way of differentiating the under-18s and grouchos from the robust adults laugh.gif

None so robust as your good self Priscilla! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 22:16:34
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 15 2008, 09:49 PM) [snapback]495508[/snapback]
that's in a different vein darling, and your pathetic evasion is noted.

One man's pathos is another man's pathology Alistair. Will you be visiting Cappielow tomorrow? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 22:18:53
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 15 2008, 09:46 PM) [snapback]495506[/snapback]
mortonjag raises an interesting point. we should recruit our neurosurgeons from 16-year old school leavers and cut out all that wasted time.

just goes to show that medicine isn't a proper subject biggrin.gif

That would be an exceedingly prudent ploy provided they had adequate neurones themselves.
mortonjag 2008-08-15 22:20:35
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 15 2008, 09:53 PM) [snapback]495510[/snapback]
i prefer the groucho line smile.gif

OK-Marks out of ten 8.33
mortonjag 2008-08-15 22:23:45
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Aug 15 2008, 10:16 PM) [snapback]495518[/snapback]
Okay, HOW can that woman walk? And WHY would she do that to herself (those are definitely fake!).

Nasty woman!

Trick-the sad news is that they ain't-and that really IS sad, and she's going to need reduction mammoplasty soon or she will indeed end up with chronic spinal problems.


Oh and once they've been chopped off Willy Man-they're yours for the asking! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 22:25:56
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 15 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]495509[/snapback]
it wouldn't be a miracle, it would be a cruel blow.

Like the NE wind, or tyrannical flatus-hmm-I tend to concur on that one!
mortonjag 2008-08-16 06:31:47
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 16 2008, 12:13 AM) [snapback]495559[/snapback]
my take on the whole thing is as follows, both lads were not refused entry to the ground for anything that happened within the social club, that story has been manufactured to cover up for someone. If the instructions did not come from mcinally or clarke then it came from someone connected with the club who acted not on the clubs instructions but for thier own satisfaction. One way or another the lads should continue to root out the truth.

If it came from JM it must be the most aggressive thing he's done for five seasons.

Compared to Craig Levein, for example, his complete lack of emotion sticks out a mile. After that outrageous C*nt Thomson refereeing farce at Hamilton, he meekly took his punishment while the rest of us were still fuming. If he managed to instigate this, the Shire are about to get promotion! laugh.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Aug 16 2008, 02:25 AM) [snapback]495600[/snapback]
This whole thread about poor wee Russell & Gerry getting refused entry on Wednesday is a total f***ing joke.

They gave McInally (and players) dogs abuse for months and not just of the 90 minute variety (Stirling away?) . Their abuse led to them getting booted out of at least St. Johnstone, & can't remember what the outcome at Dundee was.

By hook or by crook, McInally made sure they weren't getting in on Wednesday night. Given the grief he took, can't say I blame him for making sure they couldn't get in to continue it.

Bleating about how badly they've been treated and crying for investigatons is totally pathetic. So much for the hard man boo boys - as soon as they get a wee dig back, they're away greeting like weans. I suppose it at least gives Mortonjag something to wet his knickers over.........

Are you another of Rae's insider weasels masquerading as a bona fide poster?

QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Aug 16 2008, 03:41 AM) [snapback]495607[/snapback]
Eh, where did I say shouting at an incompetent manager is wrong?

Not sure what your "unsure" thing means. I've stated my view i.e.

Booted out of St. Johnstone - deffo

Booted out of Dens Park - there was some verbal aggro, can't recall the outcome (i.e. was bored to tears with abuse towards a resigned management team, so switched off)

The only drama queen about here is Toby!!

The real drama queens are the arseholes who without an original thought in their pin brains, jump at every opportunity to score cheap points out of others' misfortune. mad.gif

QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 16 2008, 04:34 AM) [snapback]495612[/snapback]
You really think McInally went out his way to get us barred from that game? Come on, give the guy some credit. Surely he had better things to do at the time other than that, such as picking a team to try and beat one from two divisions above them, I'd have thought that would've been at the forefront of his mind rather than trying to get one over two guys who's names he probably doesn't even know.

Could go over the Stirling thing again, but it's tedious so all I've got to say about that is that EVERYTHING I said to him that day was correct and all I take back is the manner in which it came across. Don't take back any sentiments. We were kicked out of St. Johnstone for continuously standing, the final straw being when we stood to contest a decision, but that wouldn't fit in too well with your story and you can't remember the outcome of dundee, why? Because weren't thrown out or because the person who really made a complete arse of himself that day was the stupid old fool that tried to strangle me because I said on a messageboard alot less about his mate Andy Bryan than the filth he's posted on here about Gerry? Again, that's not what your audience want to hear.

As for my bleating, I got a phone call off someone who was reading this board whilst I was watching the game from outside Ochilview on Wednesday night so this was brought up long before I put my tuppence worth in. Bearing in mind how much of a part of my life going to watch Morton is, of course I'm going to be asking questions and trying to find out how this has all come about. Had I not posted on the subject, it would still be a relevant subject worth talking about amongst others on the board. What if I hadn't posted? Toby's not got the balls to comment on this?????
Okay I'll accept drama queen. Thanks very much for keeping me in the limelight, I'm absolutely loving this blush.gif .

Interesting point of note, you clearly have a problem with myself and Gerry (although not to our faces when you always say hello) and whilst you're very careful not to mention it appear to feel we shouldn't be allowed into Cappielow as we are trouble at games. I'd like to ask do you feel the same across the board about the Morton support? I wasn't around at the time of the MSC days but pressumably you feel the same about them? Or is it different as they were proper hardmen boo boys and not greeting weans to use your terminology?

Never has the rift between the 'Establishment' and the true fans been so great since the Hugh's Cot days. Rae has done an excellent job in establishing his sub-culture of forum spies. The sycophancy at Cappielow beggars belief!

If the club doesn't take a long hard look at customer relations very soon, something is liable to burst. Only 2,600 at last Saturday's game-can the Old Fud not see the damage he's done and continues to do?

It's clearly become 'us' and 'them', and as far as I'm concerned, anybody who doesn't support Toby on this is one of 'them'. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-16 06:42:13
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 15 2008, 10:33 PM) [snapback]495524[/snapback]
sadly, no.

but will you be rising to the (twice-repeated) challenge:

just to make it clear that we're all talking about the same thing here, please define:

1) the 'share issue'

2) 'on the go' (apparently it's open for 5 years?)

3) the understanding

and what difference it makes to you personally (from an investment perspective). it's not clear to me whether you have a legitimate interest or whether you're just playing with your spurtle.

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An onlooker might be forgiven for thinking you have an unnatural interest in this Alistair. Everything I say is said in very clear terms. If you are unable to understand plain English, I'm afraid that's hardly my problem.

I fully understand the response you desire, and I know exactly what you will say if it is forthcoming.

This little fishy's not hungry my friend! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-16 06:54:41 In perfect condition, this season book provides access to an excellent vantage point at the heart of the Main Stand. Regrettably the current holder will be out of the Country almost all season.

No reasonable offer refused.

E-mail itchybaws@gmfc.net blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-16 06:58:36
QUOTE(Clarks-ton @ Aug 16 2008, 12:34 AM) [snapback]495574[/snapback]
Agreed, nice looking site, links on tomorrows game are taking you directly to the BBC Scotland sports page. We should be getting this information directly from the club, i.e. players availability, updates on injuries etc etc without having to go to an external site. Old site was designed in consultation with Morton and I understand it was they"the Club" who wanted control of the updates and not the web hosts. Money and shoestring spring to mind.

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mortonjag 2008-08-16 07:04:09
QUOTE(capitanus @ Aug 15 2008, 11:29 PM) [snapback]495547[/snapback]
Tell the truth ya auld tadger, you just want to blackball me because i'm not a potential recruit for the Eastwood Tories.

I think the retired CrawfordJag could be tempted with the luncheons at Parklands and after-dinner hilarity courtesy of Dean Park, but thats not quite my scene. wink.gif

I would never knock back a free lunch ticket! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-16 07:07:59
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 15 2008, 11:43 PM) [snapback]495551[/snapback]
Better !! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Rampant lions being led by a dead donkey, Spurtle.
mortonjag 2008-08-16 07:09:39
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 16 2008, 12:40 AM) [snapback]495579[/snapback]
If the area is re-opened then it aint a shooting, well not a fatal one.

Our thoughts are not yet with the family.
mortonjag 2008-08-16 07:12:30 Many happy returns of this day! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-16 07:15:37
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 16 2008, 12:38 AM) [snapback]495578[/snapback]
Thank you blush.gif
Well eating out was binned but I managed to get them tickets to Wild Child's premier tonight, well it's 1st showing in Greenock tongue.gif

I felt like a pervert as I was the oldest person there and only one of three guys.

Sitting in amongst about 100 14-18yr old scantily clad girls is not good for a guy my age.
Sitting standing? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-16 07:19:57
QUOTE(carlito @ Aug 16 2008, 12:35 AM) [snapback]495576[/snapback]
You spelled her name wrong. ph34r.gif

Wrongly!

QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 16 2008, 12:44 AM) [snapback]495581[/snapback]
The correct terminology is Spelt laugh.gif

.....OR spelled!
mortonjag 2008-08-16 07:48:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 16 2008, 07:42 AM) [snapback]495624[/snapback]
Old Dr Knowall has long since had his question answered but continues, with some assistance, to make a mountain where a molehill
Gidday maccaboy,

It would appear to me that the good doctor has received most assistance from Cappielow.

Or more precisely, from Cappielow's silence.

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I cannot speak to maccaboy directly Newt as he hides under his little huff button because he cannot stand up to the mighty Jag! sleep.gif

Perhaps you could quote this post for his benefit.

Maccaboy, are you another of Mr Rae's undercover agents masquerading as a bona fide poster?
mortonjag 2008-08-16 07:49:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 16 2008, 07:45 AM) [snapback]495625[/snapback]
Was it not posted here a few months ago that "The Hardest Thing In The World" is the old doctor's wrinkly old appendage ?

However, that may have been an opinion, rather than a cold hard fact.

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mortonjag 2008-08-16 08:03:29
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 16 2008, 07:58 AM) [snapback]495634[/snapback]
FAO Maccapouffe.

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mortonjag 2008-08-16 08:20:08
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 16 2008, 08:09 AM) [snapback]495642[/snapback]
You are actually getting to that stage were I - and I'm sure others - know what a topic is going to be about before opening the thread you have started!

It's known in Psychology as conditioning, young man! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-16 08:21:41
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 16 2008, 07:52 AM) [snapback]495631[/snapback]
Well I'm offski to England shortly to return the monkeys to Mummy Ape.

As I was paying for the tickets I came to a deal with her to travel 1hr 10mins from Preston to Carlise, you've no idea how hard that was, and I'll travel the 1hr 20mins to Carlisle from Glasgow.

I'll be in Carlisle about half an hour then back up the road so I'll make the game.

I can't believe how much of a co-incidence it was that the trains just happened to be running perfectly for me to get back up the road for a pint in The Willow before going to Scapa tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-16 08:22:47
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 16 2008, 08:12 AM) [snapback]495646[/snapback]
I did actually know she uses another spelling but for searching this spelling gives the most results happy.gif

Thi munky sez pugz izza gude spehlur.
mortonjag 2008-08-16 08:26:07
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 16 2008, 07:17 AM) [snapback]495622[/snapback]
Comedy gold MJ, comedy gold laugh.gif

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I see wee Nickerless is at it again-arguing with oncology specialists who claim that paperwork is damaging patient care. It's in today's Herald on line-I'd copy and paste but Bryan would run over my toes again, and I can't work those bloody link thingies.
mortonjag 2008-08-16 08:27:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 16 2008, 08:02 AM) [snapback]495638[/snapback]
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Does MrsT know Trick's mother ?

Maybe Upaclose knows ?

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Trick's mother lives up a close?
mortonjag 2008-08-16 08:55:46
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 16 2008, 08:23 AM) [snapback]495652[/snapback]
And it is known everywhere else as a stuck record smile.gif

laugh.gif That is indeed the manner in which conditioning is achieved, though subjects are at liberty to 'switch off', should they so desire.

Were they not, it might be termed indoctrination!

Another term in psychology is 'fatal attraction' and describes a condition in which a subject finds something irresistibly attractive despite knowing it is harmful! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif




Always happy to inform and instruct!
mortonjag 2008-08-16 08:57:43
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 16 2008, 08:32 AM) [snapback]495657[/snapback]
The job ain't finished till the paperwork is done rolleyes.gif

The job can't be finished if too much paperwork is demanded!
mortonjag 2008-08-16 09:03:03
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 16 2008, 08:29 AM) [snapback]495656[/snapback]
Munk's a wee liar happy.gif

Munx-actually-or so he claims.

He's asking if you're going to the game today or further developing your bilateral masseteric hypertrophy?
mortonjag 2008-08-16 09:16:32
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 16 2008, 09:10 AM) [snapback]495664[/snapback]
I was always partial to a man in a uniform. wub.gif

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Willy Man will be popping in here at lunchtime I'd imagine!



Army & Navy Surplus Store

1016, Argyle St, Glasgow, Lanarkshire G3 8LX
Tel: 0141 564 1146
mortonjag 2008-08-16 09:31:56
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 16 2008, 09:24 AM) [snapback]495666[/snapback]
I stand by my original point, you're all mad, including George and Colin.

Point or opinion Mr McArthur-I have NEVER pled sanity, but cannot speak for others! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-16 11:12:21
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 16 2008, 10:01 AM) [snapback]495674[/snapback]
Pot. Kettle. Black.

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In this case you've got it quite wrong, and I resent that comment. Have another think about what I said please!

QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 16 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]495677[/snapback]
I was one of Toby and Gerry's biggest critics, not for having strongly held opinions about McInally/Clark but for what they did about them. At a human level, I would not have given a dog the personal abuse and vitriol that was delivered to him. Toby says that he has changed his ways and, it looks like he has - there's been no repeats of any of these sort of incidents for a long time and so whoever was responsible for Wednesday night's fiasco maybe needs to take a look at themselves. Its long past time that these incidents should be forgotton.

I sort of half share MJ's view, I don't think that McInally was necessarily responsible but I suspect he was by proxy. I think someone has taken it upon himself to be JMc's guardian - whether JMc knew about it or not - and has organised refusal of entry.

I met Toby and Gerry face to face for the first time at Tow Law. In fact we shared a car back to Durham and they struck me as two decent guys with a strong passion for the club. Its very sad that the current situation has come about. They do though, have to take a degree of personal responsibility in that your past will come back to haunt you.

I would just say to Gerry and Toby that the club is bigger than whoever organised this. It will be here long after anyone presently connected with the club has gone and so you should separate your feelings for the club from your issues with whichever individuals you think are responsible.

And finally, for MJ, I don't agree with a lot of what Mabawsa has written but I do agree with him that your fixation on the chairman seems to border on obsessive and there will not be many posters on here, either pro or anti your general stance will disagree with that!

That's merely stating the obvious, and I question your motives in making the comment! rolleyes.gif

You are an 'Establishment' man through and through Tonsilitis. You have repeatedly 'had a go' at me in the past for daring to call the Rae dynasty in question! I don't think that's being particularly helpful in general terms, unless you believe that everything is 'just dandy' down Scapa way.

I AM obsessed with the farce that is Greenock Morton -a farce which apparently includes inappropriate use of power and privileged information by its employees. I despise tyranny in all forms, and abhor the scant regard in which Rae appears to hold his paying customers.

Complacency is the fans greatest enemy. Scott knew that.. We need more impassioned folk if we are to nudge the Club forward and out of its current Dickensian warp.

One final point-when heckling of politicians is seen as an integral part of democracy, why do you see Toby's treatment of a pair of incompetents who were collecting good salaries while taking us for a ride, as 'personal abuse and vitriol unfit for your dog'?

For an intelligent and mature man, you display a remarkably childlike deference to perceived authority. That is your prerogative, as is mine to do otherwise.
mortonjag 2008-08-16 11:19:35
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Aug 16 2008, 10:43 AM) [snapback]495692[/snapback]
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You're the biggest drama queen I've ever know MJ!! laugh.gif laugh.gif

Have we met?

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 16 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]495705[/snapback]
Excellent. Think I'll hijack every thread with Mouse Eat Mouse. It's no different to what MJ does with his nonsense. rolleyes.gif

Aye right-some 'two bit' and passe rock band's dirges will sure get us to the SPL pronto. If you can get a choon sorted out I'll write you suitable genre lyrics for:

'Fudgy Wudgy Choked my Budgie' laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-16 11:23:22
QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 16 2008, 11:17 AM) [snapback]495709[/snapback]
Fancy drawing up a CV for me? Think the tooth rotter might end up giving me a job in customer relations by the end of this if he's to listen to you tongue.gif !

I take it you are referring to the Chairman of Greenock Morton Football Club-Duncan Douglas Faulds Rae, known with varying degrees of affection as DDFR! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-16 11:26:23
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 16 2008, 11:19 AM) [snapback]495712[/snapback]
Get over yourself. This is only an internet forum after all. rolleyes.gif

You made a comment which was inaccurate and thoughtless. I asked you to reconsider what you said.

Have you done that?
mortonjag 2008-08-16 11:38:00
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 16 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]495660[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-08-16 11:43:14
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 16 2008, 11:37 AM) [snapback]495723[/snapback]
In what way was it 'inaccurate and thoughtless'? rolleyes.gif

It MAY have been given considerable thoughtful research. It was entirely inaccurate.

If the former is correct, the latter lowers my opinion of your intellectual capacity even further.
mortonjag 2008-08-16 12:02:19
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 16 2008, 11:46 AM) [snapback]495733[/snapback]
Well, that is your opinion and you're entitled to it. As am I entitled to mine. wink.gif smile.gif


I said:


'The real drama queens are the arseholes who without an original thought in their pin brains, jump at every opportunity to score cheap points out of others' misfortune'.

You said:


'Pot, kettle, black'.


If indeed that is your opinion, to which you are of course entitled, I invite you to furnish substantial evidence to support your conclusion.

Failure to do so will galvanise my impression that you are a somewhat facile young lad with a slightly stubborn streak to your nature! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 06:55:02
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 16 2008, 12:55 PM) [snapback]495755[/snapback]
I hope both guys can get over their rightful disappointment of this incident . If it was anything to do with McInally or East Stirling why did anyone say to Toby or Gerry that there were plans to ban them from other football grounds .

I see there is a plea by DDFR for more fans to come along after last weeks disappointing crowd yet 2 supporters were denied access and the clubs name was mentioned in the excuse given in the refusal .

If no employee from Cappielow was involved then surely our chairman should be demanding an explaination of what went on .

What sort of publicity would the club get if T and G went to the press .

I can honestly say that I was never convinced about McInally ( don't care how nice a guy he was ) it was simply how he done his job which was never good enough end of . The chairman dithered while we were sinking so if the TTG helped persuade McInally to resign then I for one are glad these lads took their stance .

Politically correct , perhaps not but for posters who are 40+ and went to games when Cappielow was heaving then the shouting of skelflike waifs Toby and Gerry wouldn't even have been heard .

We recently had a long running and well subscribed thread about the days of the 'casuals' when Morton fans stood together in the face of any common enemy. There appears to be little unity, and little loyalty to fellow fans those days.



QUOTE(M4RKO @ Aug 16 2008, 01:19 PM) [snapback]495779[/snapback]
I hope both these guys can get over themselves. Toby, you seem to have a really developed persecution complex, have you ever been to a psychiatrist about it? Or is it just a case of poor me syndrome?

Having said that, and to pre-empt what i expect you to reply with, i've never met you so you could be like a disney character in real life, but from knowing the 2 of you to see, you've got to be among the most torn faced fans in scottish football.

Toby certainly has some unusual personal attributes. Having the baws to stand up to a management which was persecuting us is certainly not pathognomonic of a 'complex'!

QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Aug 16 2008, 03:24 PM) [snapback]495838[/snapback]
In agreement with the first part. Two lads get barred from entry to a ground and we get 7 pages of it. World's gone mad.

Indeed, Germany and Britain had a mild tete a tete in the thirties and forties, and folk still can't stop talking about it.

I see empathy is not one of your strengths! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 07:02:08
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 16 2008, 09:57 AM) [snapback]495671[/snapback]
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Well, he was deluded enough to take the job in the first place, so these comments aren't all that surprising.

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QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 16 2008, 04:35 PM) [snapback]495857[/snapback]
Interesting to see Dumfermline beating St Johnstone at Perth. I didn't think the Pars would be anywhere this season.

East End Park McArthur.

Shire are ground sharing with Stenny.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 07:10:17
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 16 2008, 07:22 PM) [snapback]495932[/snapback]
Aye very good mate. Back to the land of reality for you methinks.

He made a valid point Piehole.

QUOTE(simplyton @ Aug 16 2008, 07:54 PM) [snapback]495958[/snapback]
3 strikers playing and one on the bench - How many more are you wanting in the squad?

With a decent supply i dont think the strikers would be an issue but they are feeding off scraps flung in from 60 yards away.

No width, no full backs, no creativity, and totally out thought and out played yesterday by a more mobile side who kept the ball on the deck and showed some imagination.

QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 16 2008, 08:58 PM) [snapback]495991[/snapback]
Reality is that we aren't in a hurry to increase our wage bill.

Rae allows us to live beyond our means as it is. Your comments are like that of the spoilt rangers fans abusing Murray for not spending £20million every summer.

Correction Piehole-with Rae in charge we HAVE to live beyond our means. Only 2500 yesterday for a game we fully expected to win, and virtually no external income for years under JM. The feel good factor's been f*cked by him and fans are STILL drifting off.

Sometimes I think he likes it this way-it guarantees his total control, which matters FAR more to him than getting to the real money in the SPL.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 07:14:11
QUOTE(bilco @ Aug 16 2008, 10:57 PM) [snapback]496030[/snapback]
I don't think it was that bad. The guy stuck a leg out and missed the ball. Studs weren't up, he didn't even go to ground and it didn't obstruct an attacking opportunity.

Where you actually at the game??

The ref was shocking. Slow with the play, whistle happy, not playing any advantage for both teams. And his officials fkn shocking or maybe they just dont know the offside rule.

The tackle blatant no intention of going for the ball. Point taken no studs etc but never won the ball never even looked at the ball. only wanted to take the player. And wasnt booked.

You look at the bookings we have had. the second yellow which led to a red for wake "for fk all" The booking 2day for nout the bookings that other teams should have had. Cmon seriously he was ok and the others have been ok too NOT.

That was by far the best refereeing performance I've seen at Cappielow for quite a while. The SFL is plagued with fussy and over officious wee fuds. Hopefully Mr Winter can keep this up.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 07:17:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 17 2008, 01:34 AM) [snapback]496089[/snapback]
Is SmithsTON OK ?

I don't think he has posted for a while.

He's been posted missing for five or six days. Maybe he's on holiday!
mortonjag 2008-08-17 07:28:05

QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 16 2008, 01:48 PM) [snapback]495793[/snapback]
I think a wee bit of realism has to creep in here! The credit crunch is here! Companies are feeling the pinch and if there are not mass lay offs yet, overtime is at a premium. Food prices are going through the roof. Utility bills are going through the roof. Petrol is already through the roof.

In the last six months people's disposable incomes have taken a severe dunt and if it comes to a choice between feeding your family and paying the bills or going to a football match, its not a hard choice. Crowds are down all across the first division. Add to that that we have had three away games out of the last four plus another four to come by the end of August maybe its not so surprising that crowds are down a bit.


Correct 'numbers man'-Rae is tuned to the f*ckin moon!

The old fud got his prompt answer yesterday-crowd down AGAIN- AND utter crap from this wonderful new side.

Ham Cam got it spot on-folk pay to be entertained and/or for some measure of success.


mortonjag 2008-08-17 07:45:23 Tell me the name of one Ton player who had a decent game yesterday! Masterton was no better and no worse than most of the others. It was just one of those days-it's hard to swallow, but they happen.


What IS a disgrace is our lack of options. We CAN'T go through a long league campaign thinking that 'route 1' plus keeping control will get us very far.

Livi exposed our lack of proper mobile wing backs yesterday-after the early shakiness the central defence tightened up, but right to the final whistle wee Griffiths (green v orange boots this season) and his buddies were able to find loads of space, by drifting wide and using quick interlinking passing, keeping the ball on the deck.

Our midfield is big strong and totally unproductive-WTF was Jenkins brought on so late-he has to be the only hope in terms of 'driving' forward.

Finally our lack of width up front sticks out a mile. Our two 'wingers' (Russell and Newby) were off the boil yesterday, and that highlighted our deficiencies. Yet again Jimbo looked lost, and when Kev came on it actually DID help-simply because we started using the space up the right. I'm concerned that perhaps David Irons thinks his current system is enough.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 07:58:30
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 16 2008, 06:14 PM) [snapback]495892[/snapback]
If Irons sticks by his policy of dropping players who make basic blunders for the next game, I would think that McManus will be on the bench and Greacen back. Shimmin was fine today but left a bit exposed at times as McGuffie was having an off day. Harding was OK defensively but his continual pumping the high ball was meat and drink to the Livi back line.

We won't play three up against Dundee and so I would expect either 4-1-4-1 like Rangers or 3-5-2. Either way, the 3-4-3 did'nt work today and I was a bit disappointed Irons did'nt change it sooner. We got much more joy when we reverted to 3-5-2.




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Red and yellow and
Pink and Green
Purple and orange and blue

I can sing a rainbow
Sing a rainbow
Sing a rainbow too

Listen with your eyes
Listen with your ears
And sing everything you see

I can sing a rainbow
Sing a rainbow
Sing along with me



It never fails to amaze me how much crap is talked about 'formations'. If they are the answer-fine.

Lets sign twenty five third division players and always play 1-2-7 smile.gif !



mortonjag 2008-08-17 08:29:42
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 16 2008, 05:36 PM) [snapback]495866[/snapback]
I'm just back and pretty disappointed. Livi were well worth their win even if they were hanging on a bit for the last 15 minutes or so. Their first goal was a cracker a rising shot from outside the box similar to Masterton's on Wednesday. Cuthbert was a bit unlucky as he got a hand to it but could only deflect it into the the net. Their second was a school boy error by McManus. With no one near him just in front of the keeper's left hand post, he headed the ball to the edge of the box where their man, unmarked, picked it up and rifled it home. Cuthbert had no chance really with either goal.

For those who criticised Greacen and Harding, I never saw either of them make as many mistakes in one game as McManus did in the first half.

Wakes goal was an individual effort and I thought the goal of the game. He got onto a lob into the box, turned his man, then beat another to fire a shot across the keeper to the back post.

I thought Livi worked harder than us. They closed us down quicker and generally caused us problems all afternoon. One of our strengths has been that we work hard - just as we did last week to get back into the game - but we did'nt seem to do that today apart from the last 15-20 minutes. I would give pass marks today to Cuthbert, Shimmin, Harding, Wake and Russell. The midfield were'nt at the races and Newby was very quiet.

When Finlayson came on for Newby we stepped it up and seemed to trouble them in a sustained way for the first time in the match. Jenkins came on for McGuffie and tried hard but did'nt have enough time to change the match. Spoonsy replaced Masterton for the last 5 minutes. In the last quarter hour we had two or three decent chances but they were all blocked or knocked away.

Livi looked the best team we have played so far and I can't grudge them their win.

I entirely agree and did you notice their fans were 'up for it' unlike the cowshed'? Seems a change of Chairman works wonders.

QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 16 2008, 05:38 PM) [snapback]495871[/snapback]
Typical Livi - and btw, McManus is truly dreadful. I wasn't overly pleased at signing someone that old to be the heart of our defence.

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QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Aug 16 2008, 06:29 PM) [snapback]495909[/snapback]
Kevin Cuthbert is absolutely fcking pish, btw!!!

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QUOTE(Tontaster @ Aug 16 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]495976[/snapback]
I almost launched my pie at the ref for not booking that player.

I thought you were male!

QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Aug 16 2008, 09:07 PM) [snapback]495994[/snapback]
I'll probably get shot down in flames for this, but here goes.

Irons has now cost us 5 of the opening 9 points (the other 2 going to Mr Boyle who refereed the Clyde game).

Last week he faffed about whilst we had a player off injured and this lost us the 2nd goal.
Today he put out a 4-3-3 which was frankly, utter crap, and took an age to change it.

I can't recall a single move taking place on the right wing in the first half. Things only happened on the left because with McAlister "old habits die hard" and he kept going to the wing. Our 3 man midfield was largely ineffective and supply to the front 3 was even less. Wake scored a goal inspite of (not because of) our formation.
After an hour of insufferable football, he finally realises and goes to 3-5-2, and lo and behold, we look like a team again. Pity we were chasing the game.

I don't forsee any points next week, and if Airdrie don't break their duck next week then we could be the onesa to hand them it on plate, depending on what formation gets pulled out of the hat.

In the words of Roger Daltrey - "Meet the new boss - same as the old boss" dry.gif

Harsh! DI has proved to have many qualities JM lacked. In terms of tactics and player signings though, he has left us utterly predictable. We'll do OK against big strong sides who try similar tactics to ours, but we neither use the wings nor can defend against wing play. Furthermore our midfield currently resembles 'stirring porridge'.

We STILL need at least one winger, one proper playmaker, and two decent wing backs. If we get those I think DI will do better! smile.gif


QUOTE(Mags @ Aug 16 2008, 11:28 PM) [snapback]496041[/snapback]
Don't think his mind is elsewhere,I feel that when we go with a back three,McAllister gets dragged back into the left back position

I agree Mags, but Jimbo has been a disaster going forward this season when he HAS had the chance.

He's NOT a left winger (he got one great wee cross over yesterday with the left foot-well done-but that's a complete rarity), and he's going nowhere in the current system. Best for the boy to get a move before it's too late.

QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 17 2008, 05:59 AM) [snapback]496131[/snapback]
Mcmanus is shocking and apart from being loud offers absolutely nothing, He's incredibly slow.

That's the kind of quote that comes back to haunt you! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 08:47:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 17 2008, 08:00 AM) [snapback]496142[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

Is the term "old fud" the familiar form of old fudgy wudgy ?

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If folk want to be entertained, they should buy some Smiths Milk Chews.

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"The one thing that makes the Cappielow market fairly solid is that people cut down on big items like a new suite or a new car.

"So if they cut down on these things, then they have got more money available to buy sweets.

"Instead of going out to Ibrox or Parkhead as often, they might stay in Greenock, watch the Ton and buy some sweets - more power to their elbow."

It stands for old Fuddy Duddy Newt.

Here's the definition for you!


–noun Also, fuddy.
1. a person who is stuffy, old-fashioned, and conservative.



....and to think this Jag has taken so much abuse for that accurate description! laugh.gif

I do like the bit about Ibrox and Parkhead-last night I drove straight home (I normally have to detour to drop off my brother), and as I left the M8 at Govan to head South, the traffic just STOPPED DEAD for the catharsis of catholophobic cretins from Ibrox.

As I sat at the traffic light for a seeming eternity, I counted no less than six buses from Inverclyde. I have to confess that for a fleeting moment I could understand their desire to see some decent football. I'd NEVER give up on the Ton, but the said Fud is stretching my patience somewhat! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 09:07:44
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 16 2008, 11:19 PM) [snapback]496037[/snapback]
I suspect the fears of some that this new forum would just be a 'carte blanche' for homophobic rhetoric seem to have been realised.

A good day for the many 'pouve' haters on here no doubt, but a new low for 'mortonunofficial.org', I'd suggest.

I doubt very much this is what either TiD or Boozie hoped for when the Jesse Ventura Tobacco Chewing Forum was launched.

Here's a sincere and serious question for you then. Are you gay?

You're coming over as a sanctimonious wee arse in my opinion.

I don't believe you are gay, but you sure like bashing anything that doesn't fit your particular brand of political correctness.

Small man gets big kick out of being a total w**k. ph34r.gif

I think Sean misjudged his original post and I was first to say so. Sean has confessed to being a bit homophobic-so be it-that doesn't exactly make him a pouffe basher.

Just to put the record straight rolleyes.gif I'm not gay, and I'm certainly not homophobic. I have close friends and a sibling who are gay. Could I shag a man-well in extremis-who knows.

Right!

Oh-and I DO think men who wear make up and tote handbags should get their little pink botties tanned-effin Nancy boys offend me in the same way as dykes who dress up like men.

I have no problem whatsoever with men loving other men, or women loving other women. Indeed I have absolutely no problem with a man shagging a donkey if they are both consenting adults in private. I don't, however, expect to see him trotting down the street like something out of 'Midsummer Night's dream'!

mortonjag 2008-08-17 09:32:32
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 16 2008, 10:36 AM) [snapback]495683[/snapback]
Sad and angry people are more likely to be deceitful IMO

What an uninformed and sweeping generalisation-you'll need to get about more! dry.gif




People say I'm the life of the party
'Cause I tell a joke or two
Although I might be laughing loud and hearty
Deep inside I'm blue

So take a good look at my face
You'll see my smile looks out of place
Just look closer, it's easy to trace
The tracks of my tears
I need you, need you
Since you left me if you see me with another girl
Seeming like I'm having fun
Although she may be cute she's just a substitute
'Cause you're the permanent one

(Outside) I'm masquerading
(Inside) my hope is fading
(Just a clown) ooh yeah since you put me down
My smile is my make-up I wear since my break-up with you



It's quite common you know-don't judge a book by its cover.

mortonjag 2008-08-17 09:38:44
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 17 2008, 09:33 AM) [snapback]496155[/snapback]
Annoying as it is, it's probably happening at every ground across the country.

Still, I wish they'd stop doing it.

What would you prefer. Shall I appear at the next home match in white coat and stethoscope and shout 'Shall I refer you to an ophthalmologist'? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 09:44:56
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 17 2008, 09:29 AM) [snapback]496152[/snapback]
Pot. Kettle. Black.
Oh, wait...we've been there before tongue.gif wink.gif blush.gif
Serious question though...

Why are you so offended by that. Are they harming you in any way? Live and let live...

Listen son I'm getting too old and tired for all the PC pish. I reckon I'm pretty tolerant of almost anything-that doesn't mean I'm not allowed my own pecadillos.

I can say categorically FROM EXPERIENCE that those who are most successful at being 'politically correct' are a shower of artificial up ain erse hysterics.

Of course I'm joking about the botty tanning, but Nancy Boys annoy me-I'm not ashamed of it, and I wish them no harm.

I take it you have no prejudices! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 09:46:47
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 17 2008, 09:39 AM) [snapback]496157[/snapback]
Well, at least it would be 'original' wink.gif smile.gif

It would be a first and last-I've no doubt the Cappielow Mafia would deal with me .
mortonjag 2008-08-17 09:48:44
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 17 2008, 09:47 AM) [snapback]496161[/snapback]
"Muscular" ? ohmy.gif

Flabular? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 09:53:35
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 17 2008, 09:43 AM) [snapback]496158[/snapback]
Well, did you get one? ph34r.gif

mortonjag 2008-08-17 09:57:00 Happy birthday guys!

Gash-we don't see much of you those days. Did you ever get that penis pump working? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 10:05:54
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 17 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]496170[/snapback]
So here's a question! When we brought on Finlayson and switched to 3-5-2 we started to play and genuinely compete for the first time in the match. Was the improvement down to Superkev all on his own or the tactical switch?

I don't know. I honestly couldn't see DI with any hand controls-is it anything like the PS3-or does Mr Rae have a remote control set.

I leave my radio on 810 M.W. all the time. laugh.gif

I would always play a goalie, two full backs, three half backs, and five forwards.

The mortonjag 2 3 5 formation seemed to do just fine for over a century until folk started taking themselves far too seriously and getting bloody football scholarships, and Sports Degrees from scabby institutions.


Adamson, Stevenson, Caven, McGraw, and Wilson would still frighten the life out of most SPL clubs on a good day-AND they could change their formation till the cows came home and would still fail to stop them.

Time for medication now! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 10:19:08
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 17 2008, 10:13 AM) [snapback]496177[/snapback]
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Cheers MJ, that's brightened up a dreich and wet Sunday morning no end at all! laugh.gif

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Oh and I have NO problem with genuine transvestites!

I met her in a club down in old Soho
where you drink champagne and it tastes just like Cherry Cola
C-O-L-A Cola.
She walked up to me and she asked me to dance.
I asked her her name and in a dark brown voice she said, "Lola"
L-O-L-A Lola, lo lo lo Lola
Well, I'm not the world's most physical guy,
but when she squeesed me tight she nearly broke my spine
Oh my Lola, lo lo lo Lola, lo lo lo Lola
Well, I'm not dumb but I can't understand
why she walks like a woman and talks like a man
Oh my Lola, lo lo lo Lola, lo lo lo Lola
Well, we drank champagne and danced all night,
under electric candlelight,
she picked me up and sat me on her knee,
She said, "Little boy won't you come home with me?"
Well, I'm not the world's most passionate guy,
but when I looked in her eyes,
I almost fell for my Lola,
Lo lo lo Lola, lo lo lo Lola
I pushed her away. I walked to the door.
I fell to the floor. I got down on my knees.
I looked at her, and she at me.
Well that's the way that I want it to stay.
I always want it to be that way for my Lola.
Lo lo lo Lola.
Girls will be boys, and boys will be girls.
It's a mixed up, muddled up, shook up world,
except for Lola. Lo lo lo Lola. Lo lo lo Lola.
Well I left home just a week ago,
and I never ever kissed a woman before,
Lola smiled and took me by the hand,
she said, "Little boy, gonna make you a man."
Well I'm not the world's most masculine man,
but I know what I am and that I'm a man,
so is Lola.
Lo lo lo Lola. Lo lo lo Lola.

Ray Davies- a heterosexual well ahead of his time! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 10:23:48
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 17 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]496169[/snapback]
I prefer something a bit more rugged. wub.gif


Arnie Schwarzwilly
mortonjag 2008-08-17 10:28:35 Puggs-did they teach you any poems in that jumped up college?

Here are two lines from Browning:


You threaten us, fellow? Do your worst,
Blow your pipe there till you burst!''

A wondrous poem-well worth the read! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 10:32:19
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 17 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]496181[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-08-17 10:52:03
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 17 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]496183[/snapback]
None of your business.
Are we to congratulate him for being honest?

Fact is that Sean is entitled to hold any prejudices he wants, that's entirely his business. But when he lets these prejudices affect his professional judgement and he allows it to spill over into open discrimination, and then he boasts about it on a public forum, then people are equally entitled to criticise him for it.

Of course we are-PC wallahs are usually dishonest creeps.

In agree, but he admitted and rectified his error of judgement.


A good day for the many 'pouve' haters on here no doubt, but a new low for 'mortonunofficial.org', I'd suggest.

....and that is self gratifying sanctimonious bollocks-scabby wee footie forum sinks to new low because self opinionated knobend says so-NOPE for me.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 10:56:55
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 17 2008, 10:48 AM) [snapback]496200[/snapback]
I don't know why they don't just allow all performance enhancing drugs so then at least then it would be a level playing field for all.

This thread reminds me of Tam Cowan's joke on 'Off The Ball' yesterday.....

Fatima Whitbread went to the GB team doctor and complained that the drugs he'd been giving her had caused hair to start growing on her chest.

'How much hair do you actually have on your chest?' he asked her.

To which she replied, 'It's all the way down to my balls'.

...and what did the doctor say?
mortonjag 2008-08-17 11:01:33
QUOTE(capitanus @ Aug 17 2008, 10:53 AM) [snapback]496202[/snapback]
It would be a Hampton & McMurray settee for auld Sweetie Bollocks.

Who knows-he may be 'a' class an' nae knickers'.


I've heard he gets his furniture from the Argos catalogue-has the Argos van deliver it to the sweatshop factory, and then the Millions lorry drops it off at his Big Hoose in the wee sma' hours.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 11:03:22
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 17 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]496204[/snapback]
I clapped Masterton off the way, I do every substitution, but I wasn't aware of jeering etc.

The stand side sophisticates clapped him off-there was no problem so far as I heard.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 11:05:19
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Aug 17 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]496208[/snapback]
I was driving along in my truck one day when a fetching young maiden drew up alongside.I couldn't help myself and I gave her a quickie at which point she told her boyfriend sitting beside her.He was less than pleased! I am more careful about the lassies I wink at these days! rolleyes.gif

Indeed, and FFS don't w*nk in front of children! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 11:08:11
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 17 2008, 11:03 AM) [snapback]496210[/snapback]
Fatima, awmagawd.
Though from around the same time I have memories of the lovely Tessa Sanderson.

Back to topic.
Athletes do get away with taking drugs.

Flo Jo must be a classic example.

The observer had a hauf decent article on her. Clicky.

It goes with the insatiable need to win found in all true champions.

I think DI should start feeding our boys some performance enhancing treatment.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 11:16:16
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 17 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]496215[/snapback]
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Got to love your keen sense of irony MJ. laugh.gif

Pot calling the kettle black doesn't even come close. smile.gif

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Ha-I don't deny it, and my opinions normally prove to be spot on!

Furthermore, unlike our little wrestler, I DO present them as opinion and not fact-something he will undoubtedly contest, as he's argumentative to the point of dementia-TOTALLY unlike my goodself. laugh.gif

Back to the thread-indeed CHC-you'd have us all believe that the forum is full of rampant pouffe bashers-that's not what you really believe-and that proves my point about you. You're a trouble stirring monstrosity.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 12:17:38
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Aug 17 2008, 11:45 AM) [snapback]496234[/snapback]
At least you've cheered me up with that. Look at this with a wholly dispassionate view. I know nobody involved in this, so have no axe to grind on this subject. Two lads renowned in the past for their forthright views on the ES management team get barred from entry to the ES home match. Blame is put on GMFC who deny any involvement in the affair. Nobody has seen the GMFC official tip the wink to the ES official so we are basing the 7 pages on second hand, at best, conjecture.

I'm afraid that there are other things ahead of that in the queue that's keeping me awake at night.

OK-you've spun it your way! Here's my unashamed 'spin'!

Toby-a long term die-hard supporter who has hardly missed a match in years, makes his way across two counties on a miserable Wednesday evening to watch his beloved Ton. He quietly has a couple of beers before making his way to the turnstyles, where to his complete astonishment, he's refused entry-WITHOUT REASON GIVEN.

On questioning, he's told in clear terms that the instruction has come 'from Morton-who intend to ban him from Cappielow, and from all Scottish grounds if possible'. He has done absolutely NOTHING wrong since he was freely admitted to Cappielow for the previous game.

HOW WOULD YOU FEEL?

A police officer appears to confirm that the information given is accurate.

Toby subsequently receives a personal message which gives him reason to believe that a certain Morton Official may have been behind the 'ban'-a Morton official with whom he has 'crossed swords' very recently on this very forum.

Unfortunately, IMHO, Toby goes in good faith to Morton for an explanation first. In retrospect he may regret not having approached 'Shire'.

'The Club' assures him that they have not, and do not intend to ban him-indeed that they 'value' his support, while promising to investigate with 'Shire'.

I'm rather hazy about subsequent events-why is that-there is a clear explanation somewhere-not some spurious story about some spurious incident with Toby possibly ending up the victim of mistaken identity.

So you see, it APPEARS to me that Toby has been singled out for victimisation for PERSONAL reasons, and the rest has-in typical Morton fashion, been rapidly swept under the carpet.

If JM/MC had wanted to be vindictive-why go to such crazy lengths instead of just telling the Stewards to ban him. It does not add up for me, and as I've already said, JM's not the vindictive type.

So-you can sit in your ivory tower and pontificate till you're blue in the face, but I feel for those guys, and I hope the truth is exposed.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 12:20:59
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 17 2008, 12:12 PM) [snapback]496245[/snapback]
Agreed.

Yesterday in effect the crowd was up.

St J game the crowd was 2649 of which St J brought through about 400.

Yesterday 2502 of which Livi had say 50.

The 50 made a helluva noise!
mortonjag 2008-08-17 12:23:28
QUOTE(capitanus @ Aug 17 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]496219[/snapback]
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Maybe he was trying to come out the closet that day, doesn't mean Mags is right.

Adam Coakley scored the winner for Queens Park yesterday! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 12:31:06
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 17 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]496229[/snapback]
Some of them probably would , they just wouldn't admit it. rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 17 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]496241[/snapback]
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Says it all really. End of discussion.

All he said was that he doesn't like the idea of ramming his knob up another bloke's arse-clearly you see things differently.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 13:06:41 I don't fully understand the problem. Clearly if there were enough turnstyles so that each could only be operated for a fixed priced for that gate, the numbers and the money should tally.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 13:47:13 It's a secret trial being run by the SFA who plan to introduce an order whereby all fans will have to wear an official jacket marked 'Spectator'. Observer is the code name.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 13:51:31
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 17 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]496275[/snapback]
Chocolate drops anyone blink.gif

I'll have a fistful!
mortonjag 2008-08-17 13:52:51
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 17 2008, 01:42 PM) [snapback]496276[/snapback]
Personal attacks on MJ's family don't normally go down too well biggrin.gif

Indeed-Fing is already targeting a certain tartan windbag!
mortonjag 2008-08-17 14:02:45
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 17 2008, 01:55 PM) [snapback]496288[/snapback]
Maybe the club have employed them to look out for and observe Toby and Gerry.

I'm sure they won't be recognised in the new frog outfits.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 14:05:18
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ Aug 17 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]496291[/snapback]
At the meeting in the Port Town Hall last March Crawfurd Rae said that they had been made aware of a problem with the turnstyles and some of the gate operators.

He stated that the guilty gate ppl were sacked and that all turnstyles are now up to standard regarding number counting etc.

however i can only agree that the attendance figures appear to show some disparity,

Last week there was at least 500 more than this week yet "official2 stats show about 80 more ppl were there.

Noticably St johnstone had about 450 fans with them last week whereas livvy with all due respect had around 75.

Maybe its the standside operators or turnstyles that they need to look at. An easy solution is to ask ppl to buy a ticket from a "cabin" before they go into the ground. altho they would probably boak at paying someone £5.85 an hour and no doubt the cost of tickets printing would be labelled "disproportionate".

I also feel there were a few games last season were the attendances just didnt add up.

A good indicator is the 50/50 price fund! dry.gif

JB.

I've noticed that too.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 14:11:26
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Aug 17 2008, 01:54 PM) [snapback]496286[/snapback]
I, too, love animals, ad I always try to place spiders and stuff that I find in the house outside, instead of killing them. However, wasps are a different story.

I always seem to get stung at least once a year (to include in September 2002, when I was at a Morton game....I was in the main stand, and it went down the back of my shirt and then got me. I swore like a sailor, I tell you!).

I have successfully killed every wasp I've been able to get near since I was stung as a teenager.

Yesterday a bloody wasp was buzzing around in the main stand-I tried several times to get the b*stard till it eventually landed. 'Gotcha' I said as I firmly but gently squashed him and flicked him to the ground.

The lady in front turned round with a look of astonisment and slight anger, but we both ended up laughing when I explained that it had landed on the back of her head and she would probably been stung! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 14:20:21
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 17 2008, 02:10 PM) [snapback]496297[/snapback]
There's a young admin girl in my work and she teases the f*** out of me.

She has a nice pair of marmaries and she wears some low cut tops.

She does have a recently new boyfriend and a few weeks ago I jokingly mentioned about her cheating on him with one of his friends which she replied to with I'd never cheat on him.

Since I put my notice in 3weeks ago she has been giving me some come on signs and has asked me to go for an afterwork drink a couple of times in the last couple of weeks, which I've used excuses not to.

She is however now shoving her marmaries in my face at every opportunity the most recent one being when she came over to my desk and knelt beside me. Well I couldn't help but peak down her cleavage.

Women are extremely aware of how their cleavage can tease a guy but more to the point should I take her up on her offer if made again.

The reason I haven't is because she's only 21 but maybe if it was a one nighter, what do you all think ??

She is old enough to know her own mind, but from what you've said, probably doesn't. What does she see in you-money-good looks-personality-or does she just wonder what it's like to be shagged by an older man.


You've nothing to lose except your virginity Willy Man-get right in there! smartass.gif drink.gif thumbup2.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 14:23:02
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 17 2008, 02:20 PM) [snapback]496301[/snapback]
Gerry was extremely quiet during yesterday's game.

I understand Morton have insisted that they didn't ban them from Ochilview and Gerry is now awaiting an official response from East Stirling.

How long does it take to check with the very small number of folk involved? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 14:43:07
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 17 2008, 02:35 PM) [snapback]496312[/snapback]
I don't think he's had the chance. He's stuck in behind Newby and it's suffocating him.The Livingston number 7 (Joe Hamill?) - showed that although Jim works hard the defensive side of his game isn't up to scratch. McAlister has to be played as part of the front three - if we persist with a 4-3-3 - or put on the bench.

He just hasn't got a finish. He's scored two or three cracking goals but they've always seemed to be 'hit and hope', and he can't cross from the left.

What's the answer. Very recently I suggested we should let him go for-say £40,000, and try to get a natural left winger, but folk seem to think he's worth FAR more.

mortonjag 2008-08-17 14:44:28
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 17 2008, 02:25 PM) [snapback]496305[/snapback]
Indeed, but as it was lettered to East Stirling, in order to make it an official complaint, then there you have your answer.

Should be interesting.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 14:48:11
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 17 2008, 02:21 PM) [snapback]496303[/snapback]
I thought the sarcastic cheer and applause was a disgrace.

Masterton was poor yesterday but some people have very short memories. So far this season Masterton has provided an excellent assist for Iain Russell at Stair Park, set up Paartalu's equaliser against St. Johnstone with a textbook cross drilled low and hard across the six yard box and scored an absolute belter against East Stirling on Wednesday.

Yesterday apart Masterton has impressed me so far but Allan Jenkins looked a level above everyone else when he come on and I can see him taking Masterton's place as soon as he gets fit.

I'd like to see competition for midfield places, and I'd also like to see evidence that DI will change things around depending on whom we're up against. Big Pantaloons is an asset in many situations, but yesterday looked lost. Masterton was far from the worst player on the park yesterday, and for what it's worth he did get genuine applause from the stand as he came off-which he briefly acknowledged.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 14:51:35
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 17 2008, 02:26 PM) [snapback]496306[/snapback]
One presumes the bit in bold blush.gif

Then she has everything to gain! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 15:03:46
QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 17 2008, 02:42 PM) [snapback]496315[/snapback]
This is quite an interesting look at modern day prejudices in Scotland. It appears to me that discrimination against homosexuals is the last prejudice that is going to be tackled by society.

Do people think that discriminating against people because of their sexuality is any different to discriminating against people because of their race?

Is it ok to ridicule somebody's sexuality whereas not ok to ridicule someone's race?

There are a lot of very sad opinions on this thread and on the should men wear make up thread.

What if I suggest that that comment reflects a totally unrealistic view of humanity!

Others' opinions are 'sad' and yours is presumably 'happy'. We ridicule every bloody thing on this forum Stuart as I'm sure you know, and if you don't like that, my sad opinion is that you shouldn't be here.

What makes you think that folks racial prejudices have been tackled-do you live in some bloody cellar and only come out in the dark. Simply because folk have learned to behave in a more civilised manner-OR are afraid of the consequences of not doing so, doesn't do away with basic prejudices.

It seems to me that you are either an angry homosexual-if so lighten up, unsure.gif or a PC arsehole! Hopefully you're not both! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 15:09:17
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 17 2008, 02:49 PM) [snapback]496320[/snapback]
I agree his finishing is poor but Iain Russell hasn't got a finish either and that's who I'd play him instead of. That would mean he would he could play on the right where we would probably see an improvement in his crossing.

Iain Russell's finishing is erratic, but he can still knock in the goals whereas Jimbo can't. Furthermore we still have superkev wanting a wee shot on the right. IMHO they are both JM relics from a different style of football which worked in a lower league, and we'd be better shot of them both, to be replaced by proper wingers/wing backs.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 15:10:36 [quote name='WillowMan' date='Aug 17 2008, 02:49 PM' post='496321']
Was this by sticking his two fingers up you laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-17 15:20:55
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 17 2008, 03:09 PM) [snapback]496331[/snapback]
If it were a bit of harmless banter and name-calling then I'd see your point. However in this case it transcended into open and actual discrimination, and I'm a bit surprised a man of your infinite intelligence can't tell the difference.

I'm just as entitled to MY opinion about what is or is not discriminative as you are Fifi.

QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 17 2008, 03:10 PM) [snapback]496333[/snapback]
I am neither of what you mentioned above. It genuinely saddens me that in modern day Scotland people are being discriminated against on the basis of their sexuality.

Racial prejudice is now seen as being really anti-social and it totally frowned upon by most decent people and what I would call "decent society". It certainly still exists in small pockets but when people express their racial prejudices they are criticised. It seems when people express their anti-gay prejudices they are congratulated for it and their comments are accepted.

It seems to me that the VERY WORST that has been done is that some have demonstrated the fact that they find the concept of homosexuality unnatural if not revolting.

I once asked a gay friend if he had ever shagged a woman just to try it out-and let me assure you he was f*cking DISGUSTED by the idea, but could totally understand my pissing myself with laughter at his response.

If you're not a pouffe, and not a stark raving bonkers PC purist, how do you define yourself?

Please don't tell me your Jesus back for a wee visit! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 15:31:30
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Aug 17 2008, 03:23 PM) [snapback]496344[/snapback]
That may be his normal approach but on this occasion he ventured into the sales to purchase his new couch. I wonder if that included a pouffe. rolleyes.gif

I doubt if he's ever have a pouffe on his staff though.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 15:35:08
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 17 2008, 03:30 PM) [snapback]496346[/snapback]
That's not the issue here MJ, and well you know it. rolleyes.gif

Sean is perfectly entitled to his own personal views on gays and the physical act of gay sex. That's entirely his business.

The point is however these personal feelings make him openly discriminate against a gay colleague. How can you seriously defend that?

I'm not privy to the full details. If I sincerely believed that any minority group employee was attempting to gain an advantage on the basis of his 'abnormality', as his line manager, I think I'd explain the unfairness to him-AND ask him not to discriminate in future.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 15:38:11
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Aug 17 2008, 03:32 PM) [snapback]496349[/snapback]
They were Police Officers doing their Match Commanders course at Tulliallan!

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Sounds just about right. I'm always amused when we go to some God forsaken hole of a stadium to note the presence of at least one Uniformed Inspector picking up his highly paid overtime for doing SFA!
mortonjag 2008-08-17 15:39:19
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 17 2008, 03:35 PM) [snapback]496352[/snapback]
However the odd sycophant rolleyes.gif

...but not as in queer?
mortonjag 2008-08-17 15:42:22
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 17 2008, 03:38 PM) [snapback]496357[/snapback]
..... as you well know the discrimination I was talking about Sean's proud boast that he refused to approve the guy's holiday solely because he's gay. rolleyes.gif

The PERCEIVED discrimination Fifi! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 15:49:44
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 17 2008, 03:43 PM) [snapback]496369[/snapback]
Well... "Dirty b*****d I thought, your getting no fecking holiday. Needless to say I declined his holiday request, just for putting those thoughts in my mind" did come over as a bit of a boast, aye. smile.gif

Sean was clearly trying to protect him from something which he regards as unhealthy and unwholesome-I feel he should be complimented on his perceptiveness of health and safety issues.

Instead he's being pilloried by a shower of pouffephiles, who the minute they are challenged hold up their hands in horror at the suggestion that THEY are practising pouffes.

All I can say to you Fifi is thank God you didn't have to do my job-you'd never have got the first patient out the door for consulting your f*cking PC tomes! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 15:52:58
QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 17 2008, 03:47 PM) [snapback]496374[/snapback]
Perhaps I have developed a persecusssion complex, that's my perogative. However, I've been screwed over by someone and there's a bigger picture to this;

There is evidence leaning towards "an official of Morton Football Club" abusing their power in order that I don't get into the game. It's extrememly easy to understand why I don't deserve much sympathy, I've got a bit of a past at away games and don't have the best of relationship's with the management team at East Stirling. However, the important factor relating to this is the abuse of power. Someone can theoretically turn up at a Morton away game now, with absolutely no previous for causing any grief at games and be turned away simply because a member of staff at Morton doesn't like them. That is not on, yet Morton, claim that if they investigate who did this would be met by a wall of silence so are prepared to sweep the whole matter under the carpet. The chairman apparently said in the Tele yesterday that he is surprised at the small crowds yet his employees are telling folk to stop Morton fans getting into games. My view on that is that they know I'll still go and watch Morton regardless so couldn't care less if I'm unhappy with them as they're still getting my money. Or perhaps they'd be willing to sacrafice having two less customers for a quieter life? Either way, I'm sure a successful businessman like DDFR is well aware that it is a common mistake to overlook existing customers as you strive for new ones. Complacency in how you treat your regular customers can result to them disappearing before you notice. In saying that, does he? He's got a bit of previous too for upsetting the regulars.

Anyway, the torn faced thing? You didn't happen to be in Prague with Mortonbug? FFS, my features are that I'm naturally torn faced, even when i'm in a good mood. No apologies there, as there wasn't to him.
Clearly you didn't attend the Q & A in March?

Toby, I'm just about to p.m. you.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 16:06:11
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 17 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]496384[/snapback]
Why would he do that, do you think gays get some sort of preferential treatment? rolleyes.gif

I assume in Sean's workplace they have guidelines regarding the granting of holidays, covering things like period of notice, back-up cover, etc. If this request did not meet one of the criteria set out in the guidelines Sean could quite properly have rejected it, and the guy would have had absolutely no come-back irrespective of his sexuality.

Well let me tell you this Fifi-I know of one very large Scottish Employer where minority groups DO get an unfair advantage, and they sure milk it, and I'm talking about Moslems and time off for prayer.

Don't bother to argue with me. MY partner works in the place, and EVERYBODY resents it-Chinese, Indians, Spaniards etc.

The said Moslems KNOW exactly their 'Rights' and sure demand them. My partner's friend's a Catholic-she takes things seriously-could she get half an hour off work on Ash Wednesday-NOPE!

Don't come over all innocent about minority groups not milking the system-it happens everywhere! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 16:58:29
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Aug 17 2008, 04:54 PM) [snapback]496410[/snapback]
You know that my views on the chairman are similar to yours, although not as vehemently held. But no one has been able to prove beyond conjecture, that Toby's nemesis, or the one that he hopes it is - he seems to have a few, is behind this. On the facts presented so far m'lud, case not proven. However, if he wants to accuse an ex-employee of hiding behind the not so small frame of a GMFC official I think he might be closer to the point. Again, straight forward conjecture and just my opinion and based on the "facts" that people have presented on here.

Time will hopefully tell! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 17:03:30
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 17 2008, 04:47 PM) [snapback]496406[/snapback]
I love the way you lump all religous, ethnic and sexual orientation minorities into one huge homogeneous group. rolleyes.gif

Are you saying that if Sean had rejected this guy's request for proper professional reasons this guy could still have been given them by simply claiming he's gay? laugh.gif

I don't know how things work in Sean's place, but I'm fairly sure if his request was reject on the basis of the rules applied equally to all other employees then guy wouldn't have had a leg to stand on.

As you are well aware I made a valid point in illustration Fifi.

You DON'T know lots of things-as I said earlier you are a deliberate trouble making monstrosity.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 17:20:45
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Aug 17 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]496407[/snapback]
If we were to go with a front 3 I'd go with McAlister-Wake/Newby-Russell. Give McAlister and Russell the freedom to find space and switch wings. I agree that Russell's finishing is poor, but otherwise he has looked quite sharp this season, and looks like a player who can find the by-line.
There's no reason why Jim McAlister can't learn to score more given the right role in the team. And I don't think you're giving him enough credit for his creativity. He created more goals than any other Morton player last season. Give him the right role in the team and he'd do the same this season.

But first we'd need full backs, so it looks like Jim will continued to be wasted at wing back.

I'm not disagreeing with that in principle-just can't see where he now fits in.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 17:22:41
QUOTE(forza ton @ Aug 17 2008, 05:03 PM) [snapback]496419[/snapback]
why is every c*** throwing toys oot the pram??? what a s***ey wee storm in a teacup.

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s***ey wee storm in a teacup until it happens to you? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 17:25:34
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 17 2008, 05:22 PM) [snapback]496425[/snapback]
shutup.gif

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QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 17 2008, 05:23 PM) [snapback]496426[/snapback]
.....and as I said earlier I love your sharp sense of the ironic.

I hope you're not calling me a monstrosity! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 17:28:43
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 17 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]496428[/snapback]
There's probably a good reason it won't happen to him.

He's an insider? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 17:44:33
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 17 2008, 05:39 PM) [snapback]496435[/snapback]
He keeps out of bother.

Really!

How do you define keeping out of bother?

If feelings among the fans in general became so strong that a protest was planned, would you join in or 'keep out of bother'?
mortonjag 2008-08-17 17:47:09
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Aug 17 2008, 05:29 PM) [snapback]496430[/snapback]
Or a third leg to stand on ph34r.gif

Are Pouffe's made of Wood?

Wooden pouffes are.

QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 17 2008, 05:34 PM) [snapback]496432[/snapback]
I can sense another bit of over-compensation going on here.

There are more repressed gays on this thread than in a public school dormitory. The Jesse Ventura Tobacco Chewing Forum closet must be bursting at the seams. rolleyes.gif

They don't need to be repressed with the Jessie Boys.

QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Aug 17 2008, 05:37 PM) [snapback]496434[/snapback]
Closets are made of wood are they not?

Wooden closets are.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 17:48:55
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 17 2008, 05:44 PM) [snapback]496437[/snapback]
Sugar Daddy. ph34r.gif

HA-I sense a new controversy-is it wrong for a man to shag a woman thirty years his junior? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 17:51:29
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 17 2008, 05:46 PM) [snapback]496439[/snapback]
Define 'protest'.



pro·test
–noun
1. an expression or declaration of objection, disapproval, or dissent, often in opposition to something a person is powerless to prevent or avoid: a protest against increased taxation.
2. Commerce.
a. a formal notarial certificate attesting the fact that a check, note, or bill of exchange has been presented for acceptance or payment and that it has been refused.
b. the action taken to fix the liability for a dishonored bill of exchange or note.
3. Law.
a. (upon one's payment of a tax or other state or city exaction) a formal statement disputing the legality of the demand.
b. a written and attested declaration made by the master of a ship stating the circumstances under which some damage has happened to the ship or cargo, or other circumstances involving the liability of the officers, crew, etc.
4. Sports. a formal objection or complaint made to an official.
–verb (used without object)
5. to give manifest expression to objection or disapproval; remonstrate.
6. to make solemn or earnest declaration.
–verb (used with object)
7. to make a protest or remonstrance against; object to.
8. to say in protest or remonstrance.
9. to declare solemnly or earnestly; affirm; assert.
10. to make a formal declaration of the nonacceptance or nonpayment of (a bill of exchange or note).
11. Obsolete. to call to witness.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 17:53:32
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 17 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]496442[/snapback]
Willowmans 51?? ohmy.gif

Is he-I was merely using 30 years as a general age difference for controversial shagging! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 18:08:24
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 17 2008, 05:52 PM) [snapback]496445[/snapback]
You're hopeless. It's a storm in a teacup right enough because too many people are being as immature as you are now.

You asked me to define 'protest'!

Who was being immature-do I have to spell it out for you? How upset/angry/disenchanted/disgusted would you have to be before you had the baws to do what Toby did?

Oh-I know-it was an effin disgrace-OR WAS IT?

If the fans in general had given JM an even slightly easier ride, we'd be back in division 2-FACT. Toby's behaviour was extreme but it demonstrated very effectively what many, if not most of us were latterly feeling about a man who was consciously or otherwise picking up a good salary on false pretences.

The immature people IMO are those who have never thrown off the child/authority figure shackles-who imagine that Club Chairmen and Managers are above reproach and deserve respect for WHO they are.

Another mark of immaturity is 'kicking a man when he's down' and there have been many examples on this pubic massage board. At the moment that is manifested by the smug whited sepulchres who agreed with what Toby believed but see fit to deplore the manner in which he exercised his democratic right to speak up. It also seems to conveniently escape attention that Toby was on no occasion apprehended by 'The Law' for his vociferous outbursts.

So back to the Holy Willie 'storm in a teacup' comment. If you think a fellow fan being excluded from a match without ANY LEGITIMATE REASON BEING PROVIDED, is 'a storm in a teacup' I certainly don't.

As I asked before, how would you or any other fan feel in the same circumstances?
mortonjag 2008-08-17 18:20:49
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 17 2008, 06:15 PM) [snapback]496457[/snapback]
As above. I agree that it was wrong for Toby to be denied entry to Ochilview and that he is perfectly right to investigate why this happened.

However, he is not banned from any grounds in Scotland as he was told and the rest is none of my business.

I don't think this should turn into a main focus of the board though. While most peoples' feelings would echo his, I would not agree with Toby questioning himself as a Morton fan.

Now, apart from it being nothing to with me, I just think other people should leave it be.

I believe the matter will die down more quickly (at least until the investigation is complete) if people stop having sly kicks at Toby and Gerry. It's as simple as that. That includes the profferring of opinions about what does or does not constitute good behaviour! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 18:28:07
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 17 2008, 06:21 PM) [snapback]496463[/snapback]
Fair enough. Are you suggesting I've been guilty of that?

Not deliberately perhaps, but your comment about another fan being unlikely to be banned because he 'keeps out of bother' came close after the 'storm in a teacup' statement, albeit it was factually accurate.

You certainly appeared to be deprecating Toby's behaviour.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 18:30:15
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 17 2008, 05:55 PM) [snapback]496447[/snapback]
Maybe he has a conscience, she is nearer his daughters age than his? ph34r.gif

AH-you DO think it's naughty to shag a women of considerably younger years! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 18:31:14
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 17 2008, 06:09 PM) [snapback]496455[/snapback]
projectile vomit ?

Scrapings from the Cappielow microphone on unfurling day?
mortonjag 2008-08-17 18:32:40
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 17 2008, 05:30 PM) [snapback]496431[/snapback]
Seriously though, why don't they just admit defeat and allow everyone to use performance enhancing drugs?

At the end of the day the results would still achieved by the human body and at least we would know the winners were truly the best in that particular field.

You are obsessed with women having baws! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 18:36:54
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 17 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]496458[/snapback]
You sound like a Rangers fan telling David Murray to get his hand in his pocket and spend more money when he's already spent about £20m this summer.

We probably do need another striker and maybe a left midfielder but that isnt going to happen until we get rid of the deadwood and I for one will not be telling Dougie to put his hand in his pocket to appease some fans thinking he hasn't done it enough already.

How often do I have to whisper in your ear darling that Mr Rae has not spent a personal penny on Morton. If you disbelieve me check with a competent accountant or Donkey Dave.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 18:38:49
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Aug 17 2008, 06:26 PM) [snapback]496466[/snapback]
I thought he had a smashing game and despite having one of those faces you would never tire of punching would love to have him in our team. He reminded me a bit of McGowan but more direct, taking on and beating every one of our defenders at some point during the game - not bad for a seventeen year old unsure.gif

You may recall he also took us to the cleaners last season at Cappielow-his hair and orange boots stood out a mile.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 18:47:22
QUOTE(ViolaTon @ Aug 17 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]496481[/snapback]
Weatherson, Greacen and Harding have all played well this season when they've been selected - I'd give any one of them the nod over McManus.

That's self contradictory IMO, and though I DO rate Spoonsy I'd NEVER have him as a central defender.

McManus's past record and experience speak for themselves. He's infinitely better equipped to organise the defence that Stu or Hardy. I realise he had a bad game yesterday, but the two other gentlemen have both been guilty of considerably worse form in the past.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 18:48:43
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 15 2008, 09:38 PM) [snapback]495503[/snapback]
that really is quite funny biggrin.gif

WTF are you wittering on about? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 20:08:08
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Aug 17 2008, 07:07 PM) [snapback]496491[/snapback]
If that is a genuine quote then it is the saddest self-indictment I've ever read in my life. I feel like Dr Who and I'm travelling back in time.

I've never met you Doc, so I'll exclude the monstrosity bit, but pot and kettle. Come on.......

There's surely a difference between mischief/trouble making and provocative posting in an attempt to encourage healthy debate.

That, at least, is my take.

My comment was made to CHC in any case-we have previously exchanged a few 'swipes'!

I can't remember any direct jousts with yourself though I note that you belong to the ever decreasing number which still doubts my integrity and motives! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 20:14:24
QUOTE(ton1901 @ Aug 17 2008, 08:09 PM) [snapback]496507[/snapback]
Why do we need another striker? i think we have played best this season so far when we had 5 in the middle and 2 up front. if we are to play 2 up front that leaves 2 back up strikers, is this not enough competition or have i missed something?

I agree about the left sided player but, i feel mcallister is wasted out there and would like to see him play inside 1 as i think he would be great at breaking up play (something i think big eric has struggled to do this season) and make some bursting runs to support the front 2.

When we have Wake, Newby, Russell, Weatherson, and Graham---INDEED!

We've got to sort out the SUPPLY to the strikers. If Jenkins can make a massive difference in that respect through the middle, we STILL need two wingers and two full backs in an ideal world before we even contemplate another striker IMO.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 20:39:02
QUOTE(ton1901 @ Aug 17 2008, 08:15 PM) [snapback]496510[/snapback]
I think the only option for that would be a loan or finding a young boy somewhere. that boy the scored against us yesterday was only 17, no reason why we cant find some1 like that somewhere and have him in around the first team squad

He's only 3 days off eighteen and was a regular in Livi's squad last season. Looks a real prospect to me-miles ahead of ANYTHING we've had since Rae took the reins.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 20:48:12
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 17 2008, 08:37 PM) [snapback]496515[/snapback]
And so do I. However in this instance you might consider the following:

1. There are few more consummate liars than Tony Blair.
2. There are few more politically biased journalists than John Pilger.
3. There are few more opportunist politicians than Alex Salmond.

The truth is out there somewhere, but I doubt if you'll find much of it in the utterances of those three.

Oh but they WILL Mr Edwards-just as they always do.

Almost every regular contributor to political debate is riding his own hobby horse, and our wee massage board is no exception.

It's laughable to see really informed and intelligent guys make complete arses of themselves when it comes to political parties, and of course the reason is simple-each aligns with the party which best suits his personal needs and aspirations.

They rarely if ever enjoy the freedom of logical analysis of available data. They'd much rather quote from their chosen Bibles, while 'rubbishing' all who disagree! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 21:16:26
QUOTE(princessTON @ Aug 17 2008, 09:12 PM) [snapback]496520[/snapback]
for god sake, its only the 3rd game of the season! ohmy.gif once the players have settled in and gelled together it'l be fine.

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It depends what you mean by 'fine' Princess-once the boys have 'settled in and gelled' it should be better and more consistent, and we have been plagued with injuries.

For me, 'fine' would be genuine progress towards the SPL with clear feedback from the Board along the way.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 21:19:52
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 17 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]496519[/snapback]
There is a gay card? where do i get one? does it get me a discount on pina colada?



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mortonjag 2008-08-17 21:33:25
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Aug 17 2008, 09:28 PM) [snapback]496524[/snapback]
being 'gay' is a sexual perversion in the same group as kiddy molesting, pumping dead people and doing animals.

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mortonjag 2008-08-17 21:35:43
QUOTE(forza ton @ Aug 17 2008, 09:33 PM) [snapback]496528[/snapback]
why? cos they're all s***e. laugh.gif

well newby is and russell is too f***ing wee

Aye I know-just like big Joe Harper! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 07:08:20
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 17 2008, 11:32 PM) [snapback]496560[/snapback]
Was that not Snodgrass ?? I thought Harding ( yes I said Harding ) put in a decent shift against him at that game at Cappielow . You can see that this boy has watched Snodgrass , plenty of running wide dragging our defence all ways .

The last time Livi played us at home, Griffiths was their best player Chris. I notice he's a flamboyant and ecumenical kid-on Saturday he wore loud green boots while last season his shocking orange ones were so 'in your face' that I started a thread about it.

Griffiths is a perfect example of what nurturing local talent can achieve. Livi can do it, Hamilton are currently heading up the SPL on the strength of it, and we haven't produced a really good player since Rae arrived.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 07:12:24
QUOTE(jim4ton @ Aug 18 2008, 12:48 AM) [snapback]496578[/snapback]
Don't knock the stand punters. Yes, they come out with the same junk most weeks due to restricted circulation. I go to most of the away games and have to listen on occassions to the vitriolic sh**e of some of our cowshed worthies. It makes going to our stand seem like a good choice despite the forced absence of feeling in the legs. Don't think it is all old guys in the stand. The seating is so cr** that you get there as lamb and leave as limping mutton. McManus must have been sent to the stand for an hour before the game. Wonder what he did to deserve it.

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*I'll apologise in advance for this*


In terms of general comfort, accessibility, sound quality of the PA system, and absence of wasps, the stand at Cappielow is rather poor value for money.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 07:31:25 I have no fears for this season, and still comfortably predict we'll finish mid table-possibly fifth.

Having said that I DO have considerable concerns that yet again we have signed a manager with limited experience, and it begins to look as though DI will have to get his thinking cap on quickly or another couple of Livi's and it'll be TTGD! rolleyes.gif

Davie has made a big improvement in training and in squad motivation, or so I'm told and I believe that's shown in most games. He has, however, deliberately and systematically assembled his 'small squad of quality players' to fit his concept of how games should be won, and from Davie's viewpoint I'm sure his salary will be safe for this season at least.

He claims the Chairman has been very supportive in allowing him to get the players he wanted, so he's either a lying B, or Mr Rae's off the hook' on this one. blush.gif

SO

We're in for a s***ey, crappy, boring season, which will be worsened by all the wee arseholes bragging on here that it's only results that count.

I often wonder if they are the ones who cheat at the turnstyles, as I feel I pay hard earned cash to be entertained, and even if we HAD won against St Johnstone and Livi, the football we play is mind bendingly unattractive and predictable, and we don't have a solitary entertainer in the squad-not even an Andy McLaren! sad.gif

I've noticed that 'average' managers often assemble a squad in terms of their own view of the game, and there's no question that we now have a big strong backbone to the squad. Once it grows arms and legs it'll be a much less ugly sight.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 08:03:43
QUOTE(forza ton @ Aug 17 2008, 11:51 PM) [snapback]496562[/snapback]
your self delusion is actually quite astonishing at times. sad.gif

Your superfluous use of the word 'actually' is irritating in the extreme-ACTUALLY! rolleyes.gif

I'm delighted that you're impressed, and if you'd actually like some lessons in self delusion, I'm actually free this evening. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 08:05:23
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 17 2008, 09:49 PM) [snapback]496539[/snapback]
makes for a good weekend though.

ive never had a better night than the night i humped that gay, lamb corpse.

Pouffe or dyke mutton?
mortonjag 2008-08-18 08:06:55
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 18 2008, 12:02 AM) [snapback]496566[/snapback]
That is indeed my issue.

What's the age difference Willy Man? blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 08:08:36
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Aug 18 2008, 12:43 AM) [snapback]496575[/snapback]
at best i would say vomit...

at worst there could be some faeces, and possibly blood mixed in??
duno if this will work but here goes -

[attachment=4372:post_321...18944387.bmp][attachment=4373:post_321...18944387.jpg]

It does but the picture's crap.

I do love your signature underneath, mind!
mortonjag 2008-08-18 09:06:22
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 18 2008, 08:19 AM) [snapback]496603[/snapback]
Oh come on now......

Jamie had a go and couldn't hack it here.

Letting him go on loan to see if he get's it back seems sensile to me.

Hold on one moment-that's an easy dismissal of a talent in one short sentence.

IF Jamie came back, and IF we could get the best of him, he would HUGELY improve our costive midfield.

Do you disagree?

It takes two to tango-I'm TOTALLY convinced that he was also allowed to go because DI wanted a BIG STRONG midfield, and it's now apparent he may have gone for overkill!
mortonjag 2008-08-18 09:09:55
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 18 2008, 08:44 AM) [snapback]496607[/snapback]
what he says.

Hmm-if the bouncy fireman thinks that way too I now better understand something! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 09:11:17
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 18 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]496609[/snapback]
It's more irritating than sore, unless you suffer a severe reaction, which can be fatal. A bee stings once only (and then dies I think) but a wasp gets several goes.

Apparently wasps have no natural predators, a unique property amongst all life on earth.

I am a wasp killer and surely not unique.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 09:16:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 18 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]496612[/snapback]
Gidday Alibi,

And I thought your grey cells were more preserved than mine.

The old Academy - I was in Miss Brown's class - top floor in the main building.

We would run and lie down against the walls.

They were probably 12+ inches thick.

Sure was better than duck and cover ... under a table cloth.
http://chemistry.about.com/cs/history/v/aavid030103.htm

Stop the mischief Newt-things went on over here in total normality. I DO remember my parents seemed a wee bit worried at the peak of the crisis, but in those days we Brits still knew what stiff upper lips are! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 09:55:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 18 2008, 09:45 AM) [snapback]496629[/snapback]
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I imagined air raid drills at the old Academy ? ! ? !

And that the water in the side boad was in Dubonnet bottles.

f*** - I did have a vivid imagination.

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Newt, when Mr Brown ushered you into the classroom cupboard exclaiming 'I'll never leave my boys behind' it may very well have been a 'drill' but it had f*ck all to do with air raids.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 10:33:14
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 18 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]496643[/snapback]
All this debate over something so simple. Gay men are gay purely because they're sick of the fact that, no matter how warm the bed, lassies bums are always freezing.

Personally, I like a cold pair of cheeks to cool down my excessively warm hands.

laugh.gif ...which clearly begs the question of their approach to heterosexual relationships.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 10:38:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 18 2008, 10:03 AM) [snapback]496634[/snapback]
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Gidday mortonjag,

Read again, mate ... it was MISS Brown.

Our first male teacher was a bloke called Condon.

Note the N

And our first sports master had the name of Loban.

I am sure that Alibi will happily post the effect that Mr Loban had on him.

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I'm not sure which 'N' I'm supposed to note Newt!

I don't believe any of my Primary School teachers had a notable name. In secondary school the same applied though Fanny Allan the Arts mistress purportedly went like the clappers.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 10:41:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 18 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]496647[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-08-18 10:44:55
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 18 2008, 10:38 AM) [snapback]496650[/snapback]
SmithsTON has a habit of appearing and disappearing when it suits, as for being OK, has he ever? rolleyes.gif

So Anus is not dead! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 13:04:32
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Aug 18 2008, 12:56 PM) [snapback]496708[/snapback]
i was showing my big c*** to everyone at the weekend. Many people complimented me on my big c*** saying they'd never seen a finer specimen! He is now back with his hens.


c***adoodledoo! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 13:08:31
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 18 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]496669[/snapback]
If Jamie came back and played to the top of his ability every week then yes, he would be a great addition to the team. I'd be delighted to see it!

Reality, though, was that he spent the last couple of seasons either injured or completely lacking in form. Maybe the loan spell is what he needs but, on the evidence of his time here, I doubt it.

The negativity boys are never happier than when they're having a good old moan! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 13:16:03 Folk never cease to amaze me! Newby has been a pretty useful addition to the squad-he was rather poor on Saturday, but certainly no worse than Jimbo. Although I agree that the latter needs a fresh start-either in position or club, he's had MORE than ample opportunity to demonstrate the class which had folk rating him at £200,000. Class, quite frankly, shines through anywhere on the pitch, and either Jimbo never had it in the first place, or he's making a damned good job of hiding it.

WHY should Jimbo not be dropped?
mortonjag 2008-08-18 13:19:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 18 2008, 11:54 AM) [snapback]496670[/snapback]
Gidday pedro.mcghee,

So, if it is that easy, why does the "Stadium Director" say that it is too expensive ?
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Presumably for the same reason as not knowing form 288a can be signed when one is 'out of the country'! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 13:23:41
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 18 2008, 11:50 AM) [snapback]496668[/snapback]
rolleyes.gif . I was talking to Gerry before the game and you were swaying in the wind shaking the chairmans hand before he vaulted the wall .
I'm sure I saw Gerry sticking a pin in his Shoogily doll ph34r.gif

Good God-next think Gerry will be banned for shagging Parkinsons' victims in public.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 13:25:30
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 18 2008, 01:21 PM) [snapback]496723[/snapback]
negativity boys!! biggrin.gif

I think you'll find I was giving an opinion in support of the Management's decision.. happy.gif

Don't blame me-I didn't coin the phrase and the trick is that it's always used inaccurately. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 13:29:28
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 18 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]496725[/snapback]
Inverclyde is back. Some others may be later.

Thank christ!!!!

Christ


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mortonjag 2008-08-18 14:53:27
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Aug 18 2008, 02:37 PM) [snapback]496753[/snapback]
I concur with that, i also see the Rag hater keeping silent, probably away playing golf all the time !

Playing golf 'out of the country'?
mortonjag 2008-08-18 15:00:52
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 18 2008, 01:25 PM) [snapback]496727[/snapback]
because we don't have a left sided player.

In all honesty, Jim's in poor form at thie moment. Maybe something does need to be changed - on Saturday I would have pushed him forwards for Newby.

The whole argument has been that Jimbo's a super duper player but NOT A LEFT SIDED PLAYER!!!!!

QUOTE(rex manning @ Aug 18 2008, 02:16 PM) [snapback]496744[/snapback]
Because there isn't a better option. You can't justify having Kevin Finlayson on the pitch ahead of Jim McAllister.

Superkev frustrates me no end, but at the moment he's twice as effective as Jimbo- going forward.

QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 18 2008, 02:20 PM) [snapback]496748[/snapback]
Of course you can. Since Irons came in, Finlayson has been one of our best players, massively improved. We missed him on Saturday and the difference he made was obvious to anyone as soon as he came on.

McAlister simply hasn't been doing the business of late, and should be dropped like any other player. Regardless of your opinion of Kev, at least he can never, ever be called "anonymous" or "ineffectual". He's always involved, even if perhaps the odd cross is misplaced, and will never let an opposition winger have the freedom that McAlister and McGuffie did on Saturday.

That's my point really-it seems that he still retains the 'golden boy' image.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 15:06:35
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 18 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]496758[/snapback]
My old man told me, quite correctly, that the three coldest things in the world are a man's knees, a woman's arse and a dug's nose.

It has got me through many troublesome situations knowing this.

TonInDublin

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I thought Mr Rae's dismissive glare at the negativity boys would have been a winner by a long chalk.

There again there's the Binos' pie laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 15:11:09
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 18 2008, 03:07 PM) [snapback]496772[/snapback]
Good point.

c*** f*** s*** dick.

Now it's justified. happy.gif

NORWEGIANS ARE POUFFES





And presumably bugger each other on queer chintz suites.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 15:13:32 There's nothing to beat baked Alaska smothered in Colman's English Mustard.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 15:17:06
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 18 2008, 02:21 PM) [snapback]496749[/snapback]
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You should have a word with our poet. You'd get along famously.

I couldn't understand a word of that McArthur-does it become intelligible to music?
mortonjag 2008-08-18 15:19:46
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 18 2008, 01:36 PM) [snapback]496732[/snapback]
I never took you as being the religious type huh.gif

The Lord is my shepherd I shall not want.
He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters
He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemes; thou annointest my headwith oil; my cup runneth over
Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life. and I will dwell in the house of The Lord forever.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 15:21:02
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 18 2008, 03:18 PM) [snapback]496787[/snapback]
No. laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-18 15:29:56 Wasps are dopey buggers-you'll only ever get stung if you don't realise in time that one has landed on you. The secret is to stalk them-at this time of year they're even more dopey than usual and easy prey. Just wait till he's definitely landed, and gently squash the front half with a forefinger. Less venturesome folk may consider the use of a home made swatter as suggested by Chrissiboi.

Wasps are SO dopey that you can fill an empty jam jar (with the traces of jam inside) with water, and they will obligingly fly in and drown themselves!

I think the thing that puts folk off wasps as much as the fear of a sting is the ominous buzzing sound-learn to welcome that as a precursor to your next 'hit' and soon you'll be a wasp assassin par excellence!
mortonjag 2008-08-18 15:37:31
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 18 2008, 03:00 PM) [snapback]496764[/snapback]
I wasn't, but this was after your impassioned hate campaign against the former management team of McInally and Clark in January/February! That dealing with the club was what I was describing. The damage had been done before you spoke I suppose, even if it was calmly.

You certainly don't get respect for losing the rag and being unpleasant in making your point, which you had been towards Jim, particularly when the other party have the decision to make. You could have offered gentleman Dougie a cucumber sandwich and a cup of Darjeeling and he still would have been dismissive of you!



Toby was perhaps the ideal mouthpiece for the impassioned hate campaign waged on this pubic massage board. Some of the stuff posted on here by cowards makes anything Toby said look like a eulogy by St Francis.

I take it you would have preferred JM to hang around!
mortonjag 2008-08-18 15:41:06
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 18 2008, 03:21 PM) [snapback]496791[/snapback]
E-mail that to the club, its not guaranteed he'll see your post! Or send a shorter version to the Telegraph. Your right about the youth set-up, not a peep about that at all recently!

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......and would the Tilly print it? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 15:44:30
QUOTE(rex manning @ Aug 18 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]496767[/snapback]
Superkev frustrates me no end, but at the moment he's twice as effective as Jimbo- going forward.

Thats now a trio of crazy people on this thread.

Mortonjag is as crazy as a bag of ferrets, and can still see that McAlister's been a waste of space this season.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 15:50:17 [quote name='Dream Oak Tree' date='Aug 18 2008, 03:10 PM' post='496774']
I put our ineffectiveness down to DI's formation and tactics. 3-4-3 with no full backs or wing backs against a team who play with wingers was a recipe for disaster which was always going to gift goals, similar to last week's first half.

On top of that we had a deep lying midfield who lumped the ball forward in the hope something would break for our three forwards. Brian Wake looks noticeably disillusioned with the formation and tactics, he looks as though he prefers to do more work as one of a front two receiving service from a more creative midfield.

DI should look no further than his own game plan for the reason we lost to Livvi. I was also not too impressed with Cuthbert's attempt at saving the first goal. If a keeper gets a hand on the ball he should put it round the post, not into the net. David McGurn might not be everyone's cup of tea but IMO he's better than the two we have now. Likewise Stu Greacen is better than McManus and Weatherson's probably better than Newby.


I agree with the highlighted text, and my huge worry is that there is NO plan B. He has not acquired players who can deal with wingers, nor players who can use the wings properly. We can talk about permutations of the current squad all day, but they'll just be a slightly more effective version of plan A.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 16:04:46
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 18 2008, 03:34 PM) [snapback]496801[/snapback]
I have to disagree... i'd bet my freezer's much colder than the wife arse or the dugs nose, and my knees are pretty cosy at the moment as well. rolleyes.gif

Now we know where the dug's nose is.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 16:07:06
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 18 2008, 04:03 PM) [snapback]496816[/snapback]
The only stuff I have ever liked is the weak American-style stuff. I don't like spicy food at all.

Wait till you're weaned off!
mortonjag 2008-08-18 16:23:40
QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 18 2008, 03:55 PM) [snapback]496813[/snapback]
Eh? There was a piece in the programme about it on Saturday.

Needless to say it was complete s***e of course; Rae informing us that it's had a re-vamp without actually mentioning how many teams we have, at what age groups, playing in what competitions against what standard of opposition, how they are doing and who is responsible for the coaching and development of these boys. Not to mention his omission of a seemigly embarrassing 6-1 caning by Queens Park at the Battery last week.

He did however say that he hopes to bring through the quality of players Hamilton have brought through, so all's well. I'd like to bring through boys like Man United brought through in the mid-nineties but I couldn't explain how I expect to do this. I suspect Rae is the same with his plans to emmulate Accies.

What Mr Rae's been saying doesn't seem to tie in with the information coming from those immediately involved with the youth set up. Do you think somebody has been pulling the wool over his eyes?
mortonjag 2008-08-18 16:24:58
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Aug 18 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]496822[/snapback]
one i recently discovered is mars milkshake - was feelin well rough and after glugging on it i felt magic. sorted me right out. sex also helps temporarily as sometimes i get the horn when im hung over (duno why this is).

any other miracle cures?

NO! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 16:26:10
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 18 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]496824[/snapback]
Looks like the Argyll's in battle during the Crimean War.

And for the record GibbyTon is not a brother, he is a Scottish Caucasian. rolleyes.gif

c***asian?
mortonjag 2008-08-18 16:39:12
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 18 2008, 04:24 PM) [snapback]496826[/snapback]
Nevaaaaaaaarr!!!!!!!!

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mortonjag 2008-08-18 16:40:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 18 2008, 04:26 PM) [snapback]496828[/snapback]
I just find trying to go about life as normal helps.

Get up, drink some water, brush your teeth, eat a massive sh1te, have a good shower then a good breakfast and you should perk up in a couple of hours.

....this did take me about 5 years to work out! mellow.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-18 17:14:29
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Aug 18 2008, 04:49 PM) [snapback]496842[/snapback]
I tend to agree, although I believe to some extent DI had to prioritise strengthening the backbone of the team first, and will now have to offload unwanted players before he can complete the squad, hopefully by adding natural full backs, a left sided midfielder / winger and a creative centre mid. I think DI probably sees the need for these players as much as we do, but was left with a major rebuilding of the unbalanced squad he inherited from JM.

If you look at the likes of St. Johnstone and Dundee you'll see they already had the backbone and have just added some creative players, we've a bit of catching up to do, hopefully by January transfer window but more likely by start of next season.

Hopefully. DI certainly comes over as an intelligent guy. Possibly he expected the current set up to be slightly more potent in terms of attack, instead of being hampered by a midfield which always wants rid of the ball. In that respect Jenkins may prove to be the asset he appeared to be when signed. It just seems a shame that we now HAVE guys who can win the ball and dominate the midfield taking pressure off our improved central defence, yet we never have anybody who can benefit from the wide or long ball to either wing. Have you EVER seen Jimbo or Kev run past a full back to RECEIVE the ball, for example?

Anyway-here's hoping.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 17:17:12
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 18 2008, 05:14 PM) [snapback]496849[/snapback]
Well I think we need to get the matresses out and see if we can find another wage and bring someone else in .

Or maybe somebody will bring lots of munny in from 'out of the country' and the mattress can be designated to somebody who thoroughly deserves a rest.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 17:18:17
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 18 2008, 05:11 PM) [snapback]496847[/snapback]
Interview in The Sun today, mentions the Brian Wake Bebo group. laugh.gif

and................?
mortonjag 2008-08-18 17:22:22
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 18 2008, 05:05 PM) [snapback]496845[/snapback]
NO !!!
I hope that the level of coaching is better under Derek Collins but this guy cannot get things on track unless we get our development status back .

We lost that through the club not coming up to the standard the SFA set . It was one of my questions the club still hasn't answered when they intend to do this or what are the obstacles from preventing us from achieving this .

Any boy who has talent wants to play in the best league possible against better players . We will not attract the promising youngsters from coaching schools if there are clubs there who are offering a higher level than we are .

Remember the thread about the club charging 3 quid a week value for money . I saw St Andrews BC rattling buckets at Cappielow . Would the club not be better getting their own youth team financed properly .

Why can't the club instigate some fundraising on a more regular basis for a youth set up . I asked why can't we get individual sponsors of the youth teams ?

I keep asking these questions but get no response . I certainly don't blame the coaches as they can only do so much . The overall failure to get the youth set up up to the standard of similar size clubs lays at DDFR's door .

Now I'm off to the under 19's playing Cowdenbeath at the Battery 19.00 ko

So Mr Rae has been deliberately misleading the fans?
mortonjag 2008-08-18 17:26:51
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 18 2008, 05:20 PM) [snapback]496852[/snapback]
Someone who doesn't buy The Sun might want to read it? 1eye.gif dry.gif

Where is it-I've seen the boobs, read the footie, and scanned the rest in two minutes-don't remember seeing anything about Superkhali!
mortonjag 2008-08-18 17:29:07
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 18 2008, 05:23 PM) [snapback]496857[/snapback]
I think you'll find I am, circa September 29th, which is only 3 home games. happy.gif
JB, I expected something stronger for yourself than a coke, although the pint of Strongbow would be appreciated muchly, ta. blush.gif

Were you abandoned on some Aaalborg doorstep?
mortonjag 2008-08-18 17:38:39
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 18 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]496863[/snapback]
Page 21 of 'Supergoals'. Full page. rolleyes.gif

I just saw the huge A-Z and missed Wakey's face at the top-anybody who doesn't skim read tabloids is crazy, but it proves you do miss the occasional interesting bit.

He's not very complimentary about BEANY mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 17:43:01
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Aug 18 2008, 11:08 AM) [snapback]496662[/snapback]
Alister Donald WAS down at Cappielow on Saturday, apparently though he had been to Whorewoods on the Friday night and ended up at an all night party up the Q.B. He stumbled down to the Norseman at 11.15 started on alchopops and was slurping on slippery nipples by half 12. He was flung out at 2.15 for trying to steal a guys brew card out his back pocket, and was last seen peeing through the letter box of the old t.v repair shop up by the station....haud on that might have been Donald McAlister

Yer Donald McAlister doesn't own a castle up at Aberfoyle by any chance?
mortonjag 2008-08-18 17:44:57 There's not any Craig Barr connected with football on Google! Can't be THAT good surely!
mortonjag 2008-08-18 17:49:51
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 18 2008, 05:25 PM) [snapback]496860[/snapback]
My old boy always told me there was nowt colder than the nipple on a witch's tit.

One of us has been misinformed. dry.gif

Had Mummy had a mastectomy?
mortonjag 2008-08-18 17:52:07
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 18 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]496862[/snapback]
The best hangover cure is to avoid getting pished the night before.

Don't be obtuse!

That's like chopping off some poor c*nt's leg in case he gets gangrene.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 17:56:32 I never tire of the learning meaning of things! This one's open to debate.

Cut the mustard

Meaning

To succeed; to come up to expectations.

Origin

Why cutting mustard was chosen as an example of high quality is unclear. As always in such circumstances, there are no shortage of guesses. Some of these allude to the literal difficulty of cutting mustard in its various forms; for example:

- Mustard seed, which is hard to cut with a knife on account of its being small and shiny.
- Mustard plants, which are tough and stringy and grow densely.
- Culinary mustard, which is cut (diluted) and made more palatable by the addition of vinegar.

There is no evidence to support these derivations and they give the impression of having been retro-fitted in an attempt at plausibility
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mortonjag 2008-08-18 18:00:09
QUOTE(McCauley87 @ Aug 18 2008, 05:48 PM) [snapback]496876[/snapback]
Well I'm only giong from what I've heard, I thought ome people may be aware of who he is.

Btw, it's Chris Barr tongue.gif

Craig/Chris-who's counting-it WAS Chris I googled! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 18:03:07
QUOTE(stubaws @ Aug 18 2008, 05:58 PM) [snapback]496881[/snapback]
i'd agree about paartalu, thought he was gash and looks lost most of the time.

the reaction to masterton getting subbed was well harsh, he seems to be the one guy in our team with the ability to play a killer pass. not everything came off for him admittedly and there was one time when he dithered so long despite the entire stand shouting 'man on' at him.

for me paartalu, newby and russell were completely non-existant. we all know mcmanus made that mistake but i'd still have in him in the side. looks like we've got 2 bombscare goalkeepers as well and wtf is with cuthberts constant hammering the ball up the park to 2 strikers against 4 or 5 defenders?!?!

the real problem was mcalister, completely exposed on the left hand side of midfield, especially with no left back to cover him. get him up front as part of the 3 even if it means finlayson in for paartalu to give us some width.

mcguffie still improving and jenkins will be essential to our midfield

Where I sit , we were shouting-'Pass the ball Steven'!
mortonjag 2008-08-18 18:15:25
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 18 2008, 06:03 PM) [snapback]496890[/snapback]
I didn't read that on Saturday Toby, usually read it page to page when I get home, was so depressed by the result I just put in the pile! Had a wee look at it there.

I'd to see a proper press release, a statement of intent on the club's shiny new website. Something less low profile than the programme that most people don't buy!

We will get good publicity the week of the Hibs match and I think we're due a feature in The Sunday Times perhaps, usually a decent sized Morton interview every six months or so. Accies are certainly the model to adopt, I hope we start seeing some new talent coming through before the decade ends!

That's what's singularly lacking, and it IS what the fans want. Douglas Rae appears to me to be playing silly buggers with Alistair Donald. I can't prove anything, but I'm pissed off with the silence after the flamboyant announcement in the Tilly in January at a time when Rae and McInally desperately needed a wee smokescreen, followed by the apparent lying for six full months about his appointment.

We only have TWO DIRECTORS AT GREENOCK MORTON if you omit the one who's never in the country, and the one who's as useful as an ashtray on a superbike, and THEY ARE BOTH CALLED RAE.

Alistair Donald IS interested-FACT.

We desperately need investment-FACT

Back to your 'statement of intent'. It would go a huge way to healing the rift between Board and fans, if we were treated like adults and not kids who should be seen and not heard, and always bring a friend to matches.




mortonjag 2008-08-18 18:32:36
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 18 2008, 06:30 PM) [snapback]496905[/snapback]
Toby, stop being so narcissistic, I don't have a problem with you, I won't say it again! I am saying Douglas Rae, and probably most of the businessmen who run the Morton boardroom would be dismissive of the way you spoke to McInally, were you to behave that way again.

I believe if you were to ask Douglas Rae a question next time there is a forum for it, were your manner to be calm, you would be treated with respect and wouldn't be dismissed. You asked that question in March, your behaviour in chinning Jim would have been fresh in his mind!

McInally rolled over, your views on his managerial failings were there before that 2-1 reverse at home to Clyde. Following the final whistle at that match, everyone had reached the end of their tether too! That includes me, he deserved a shot at Division One and he admitted it didn't work out and that the fans needed someone new. I'm glad he left, and I also admired the way he conducted himself.

What are you getting from Santa?
mortonjag 2008-08-18 18:35:30
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ Aug 18 2008, 06:12 PM) [snapback]496892[/snapback]
Inspectors don't get paid overtime

LINK!
mortonjag 2008-08-18 18:37:50
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 18 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]496901[/snapback]
Kids back today throughout East Ren.

Chrissi Sir, thanks for the thoughts. The start of my 32nd year of teaching and still getting a buzz out of it.

Good luck to all the weans who are starting in a new school today.

The anaesthetists are notorious for that too!
mortonjag 2008-08-18 18:39:33 I've always preferred French mustard on hot dogs.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 18:52:01
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 18 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]496915[/snapback]
Your head Lord Mortonjag! I asked for the head of Mavis Davis, but Rik and Ade weren't complying! wink.gif smile.gif

I hope you have a big enough platter!
mortonjag 2008-08-18 18:56:40
QUOTE(stubaws @ Aug 18 2008, 06:44 PM) [snapback]496924[/snapback]
away to dundee next week so i dont expect us to go 3-4-3, more likely to be 3-5-2 but i think our strongest line up at the moment may well be:

---------------Cuthbert/Stewart--------------

Shimmin---Harding---McManus---Walker

------Masterton---Jenkins---McGuffie

------Finlayson---Wake---McAlister

im undecided about both keepers, never liked stewart at livi but aint been overly impressed by cuthbert either. iv mentioned on so many threads that mcalister has to play up front to get involved although may be a spell on the bench could be what he needs. i'd go with finlayson as a right winger against dundee coz we're likely to be on the back foot a lot and will need an outball. plus if its not working he can move back to right mid in a 4-4-2 or right wingback in a 3-5-2

major concern on saturday was how late irons left it to change the tactics
given the fact we were getting humped in terms of posession and never looked like scoring, hopefully he wont be afraid to shake things up in future

I couldn't believe how long it took to get Jenkins on-OK I know he's possibly not fully match fit, but he could have at least got us a vital point if not three.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 18:59:02
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 18 2008, 06:49 PM) [snapback]496928[/snapback]
Since when did c***s have legs? unsure.gif

Still, I suppose when you were a doctor you must have seen all sorts, eh?

Pediculosis pubis.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 19:03:18
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Aug 18 2008, 06:44 PM) [snapback]496923[/snapback]
Gash has been away on a quest to do his liver as much damage as possible, by all accounts; it has been a blinding success. Should my liver have a heart beat ??? Hope you all carry donor cards.

Sean, I am never whispering sweet nothings in your ear again whilst playing 'big spoon, little spoon'. Next you will be telling everyone about the romantic weekend we spent together wub.gif In response to your question though, no, good to look at but women are all snakes with tits in my book at the moment.

Darren, you are just upset at the fact not only am I older, less ginger and more distinguished than you but I have also managed to retain the services of all of the hair follicles on my napper !!!

The Jag, no. Never have figured it out. If it doesn't come with a keyboard and monitor attached I really get stuck. I would appreciate if you could email a copy of the instruction manual to me ! biggrin.gif

I'll do better-I've now developed the all new voice actuated penis pump.

'Up' and instant twelve incher.

'Down' and we're back to normal.

The only problem is that my partner has a cruel sense of humour. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 19:05:14
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 18 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]496918[/snapback]
Tam is still sooking the bunsen burners ph34r.gif

What I want to know is who is sookin' Mr Bam's bunsen.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 19:08:30
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 18 2008, 07:07 PM) [snapback]496947[/snapback]
According to the new website he ain't a Director blink.gif



Not quite true Willy Man. You're looking at a 'Contacts List'. As you very well know Mr Donald is perpetually out of contact, if not the country.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 19:12:10
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 18 2008, 07:10 PM) [snapback]496950[/snapback]
If Dean Keenan had the skill of Lionel Messi then we probably would have kept him aswell.

He probably would be better if JM hadn't MESSED him about.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 19:14:25
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Aug 18 2008, 07:09 PM) [snapback]496949[/snapback]
Sounds to me she treats you like a dog. Up! Down! Sit! Play dead! Roll over!

Ditch the bitch laugh.gif

Unfortunately she's mother to my two little boys Munx and Fing. I've been through that sort of crap before and it's bad for the kids.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 19:16:15
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 18 2008, 07:02 PM) [snapback]496938[/snapback]
I was barely in the door this morning and she cornered me but this time she didn't suggest we go for for a drink she TOLD me precisely when we were going for a drink and ended the conversation with - AND NO EXCUSES !!!

Clearly you've NOT been boasting!
mortonjag 2008-08-18 19:18:02
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 18 2008, 07:13 PM) [snapback]496952[/snapback]
The best cure for a hangover is to get drunk again. Simple.

That is absolutely irrefutable.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 19:20:57 WELL?
mortonjag 2008-08-18 19:35:32
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 18 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]496966[/snapback]
Ahh, I see.

I can't seem to find a page on Our Board and who's on it and what they do unsure.gif

Indeed and the absense of 'From the Chairman's Desk' will have me subscribing again to the Beano.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 19:46:01
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 18 2008, 07:44 PM) [snapback]496975[/snapback]
You couldn't handle me! wub.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-18 19:48:05
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 18 2008, 07:40 PM) [snapback]496972[/snapback]
Thinking back on a programme on C4 CALLED "a perfect v*****" I got to thinking, we hear of boob jobs and face lifts etc, in fact they are all very common, but now the latest one seems to be vaginal surgery.

Apparently it's becoming more and more popular.
Is there something wrong with these people, how far will they/it go?

So then ladies, would you want to go under the knife to give yourself the perfect fan-dangle? rolleyes.gif

Gents, would you dare suggest to your missus that she needs a bit cutting off here and there? ph34r.gif

Whats gonna be next? unsure.gif

Jessie Boys for this pish
mortonjag 2008-08-18 20:34:47
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 18 2008, 07:49 PM) [snapback]496983[/snapback]
the Jessie boys is clogged up with dafties asking what its like in Norway.

One must not divulge the contents of the Jessie Boys conversations, though I love the current debate about Boozehound's penile operation.

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 18 2008, 07:56 PM) [snapback]496991[/snapback]
I suppose you've heard about the woman who had that op recently. When she came round she noticed three greeting cards at her bedside table. There was one from her husband, and one from the surgeon. The third one was from Wee Johnny in the Burns unit thanking her for his new ears.

Wee Johnny-when asked about his acquisition said 'Ah goat them aff some big c*nt in the next ward'.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 20:38:04
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 18 2008, 08:08 PM) [snapback]497005[/snapback]
Yep.
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Typical of a Chemist to produce rolleyes.gif when he means bouncy.gif thumbup2.gif cool.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 20:40:25
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 18 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]497014[/snapback]
ph34r.gif

I well understand your anger-I'd be raging too if somebody discussed my amputation.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 20:43:47
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 18 2008, 07:58 PM) [snapback]496996[/snapback]
17years !!! ohmy.gif

Bloody hell man-you're still a wean yourself-get right in there-my bird's half my age-highly recommended BTW! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 20:45:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 18 2008, 07:52 PM) [snapback]496987[/snapback]
Probably arse cancer they think if they have a pain arse wink.gif

You sure have a way with words young man!

Rectal carcinoma, if you please. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 21:09:02
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 18 2008, 08:51 PM) [snapback]497023[/snapback]
Would you care to reveal the answer to your own question unsure.gif

All four though the final one is answered day and daily! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 21:27:55
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 18 2008, 09:25 PM) [snapback]497045[/snapback]
He's seen old firm fan(nnie)s?

He makes old firm f*nn**s.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 21:31:23
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 18 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]497040[/snapback]
Just a thought, but the doctor giving out advise on this, does he ever get turned on when play... sorry examining patients?

And what makes him such an expert on what the perfect fanny looks like?

And how good a job is that anyway, no one ever told me about jobs like that at the job centre last tme I was in...

Are you not already making a c*nt of your present occupation?
mortonjag 2008-08-18 21:34:20
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 18 2008, 09:33 PM) [snapback]497052[/snapback]
Are you gay? unsure.gif

Are you calling me a POUFFE?
mortonjag 2008-08-18 21:36:40
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 18 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]497055[/snapback]
How, you think it will get you a holiday?

It's worth a try-I've heard you bend over to accommodate POUFFES
mortonjag 2008-08-18 21:40:05
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 18 2008, 09:37 PM) [snapback]497061[/snapback]
How many letters?

The monkey thinks your new avatar's a POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-08-18 21:41:22
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 18 2008, 09:40 PM) [snapback]497065[/snapback]
Only thing that will be bending is my knee to kick the sorry ass poufe right up the arse

He may not know the difference! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 07:35:47
QUOTE(mccaff @ Aug 18 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]497078[/snapback]
a. just because he's right footed doesn't mean he cant play on the left. he became everybody's favourite player over the last few seasons always playing on the left. why is it that when he has a bad run of form all of a sudden he cant play there.

b. the reason he plays in a deeper role rather than up front is because he does so much defensively. same reason mcguffie's gets the nod ahead of finlayson. i actually think mccallister's been solid so far in this new role. a few good runs as well. it might not be his best position but i can't think of anybody else who could play there.

What you say may be essentially true. I think there's more to it. I clearly remember watching Jimbo play for the reserves in the John Maisano position when we were still in the third and I thought he looked great. He was then converted into a left sided machine by the Clown Prince of tactics and programmed to believe that was his best slot. At the moment, IMHO he is pure mince, and doesn't deserve the jersey.

I DO think Jimbo has potential-it could be developed here if we had more money, but the coffers have been closed. We have eleven days to do what would be best for us and Jimbo.

We won't.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 07:38:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 18 2008, 10:51 PM) [snapback]497108[/snapback]
would it not be better to subscribe to shares in Morton FC ?

I have already read 'Journey into the Unknown!
mortonjag 2008-08-19 07:46:00
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 18 2008, 10:54 PM) [snapback]497113[/snapback]
but then is the 288a actually signed or just lodged or submitted on line ?

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There is an on line version which serves the same purpose.


Here are some relevant rules:


It is against the Club regulations for persons to pass juveniles or adults over or beneath a turnstyle without a ticket. laugh.gif

One assumes that if said turnstyle HAS said ticket, said persons may pass juveniles or adults under said turnstyles ad libitum---space permitting I'd imagine! nerd.gif


mortonjag 2008-08-19 07:56:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 18 2008, 11:10 PM) [snapback]497125[/snapback]
OK, mortonjag - try this for size.

7 years ago, DDFR's credibilty was at a record high.

From the many postings on this board it has slumped.

Now, it appears to be at a record low.

And there appears to be, as someone posted, a lack of a statement of intent.

A few months ago, we were planning for the SPL.

Now, after a poor start to the season (2 points from a possible 9) crowds are poor and DFFR is pleading or complaining depending on which posters one reads.

And without a winning streak soon, the SPL is totally out of the question.

You've suggested on numerous occasions a director of football.

I can't see that happening.

Your other suggestion was that DDFR take more of a backseat role.

Perhaps he is more willing to consider this now than in the past.

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There is absolutely no shadow of doubt that the majority of fans now feel we are stagnating under the Raes.

When I suggested a couple of years ago that Mr Rae take a back seat and appoint a director of football, I still believed that SPL status might be attainable on the strength of Golden Casket. Things have changed with Mr Rae adopting a tight budgetary stance, which is, of course his prerogative.

What is wrong IMO is that Mr Rae appears STILL to imagine that all is well when lack of financial success is staring him in the face. I somehow can't help feeling that Mr Donald may be rubbing his hands in glee on some distant shore each time he hears the latest attendance figures from Cappielow.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 08:07:38

QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Aug 18 2008, 11:41 PM) [snapback]497142[/snapback]
The question was perfectly valid, and had it been answered then fine, but the spamming Aussie decided he wanted to take it off-topic as usual, and I could see the thread going in exactly the same was as the 20-odd page thread entitled Alistair Donald.

Listen to me sonny boy,'the spamming Aussie' knows FAR more about shares than you do about football and women put together AND is old enough to be your Grandad. He did NOT take it off topic!

WAS THERE ANY NEED FOR YOUR PUERILE POST. Stick to your Panini posters and let adults discuss the things that really matter.

mortonjag 2008-08-19 08:12:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 19 2008, 07:52 AM) [snapback]497171[/snapback]
I am confused.

In 1963/64 they were definitely turnstiles.

When were they replaced by the new style ?

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I'm not sure of the ratio of turnstyles with a ticket to turnstyles without a ticket Newt. What I can tell you is that most, if not all of the present turnstyles are extremely old!
mortonjag 2008-08-19 08:18:30
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 19 2008, 08:10 AM) [snapback]497176[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

Well, I suppose that makes me about 42, judging by that recent article in the Sun.

I thank you sir.

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I know what age you are Newt-but I shall keep Mum!

I was surprised to see little Steve Aitken step into the breech vacated by the more vociferous Rae satellites.

They are going down like flies. Mortonjag is able to post his honestly held views with relative impunity. Surely there is not some verminous sub-culture of sugaraeholics breeding insidiously in the bowels of Feart Matilda.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 08:22:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 19 2008, 08:14 AM) [snapback]497179[/snapback]
So, we replaced the old turnstiles with second hand ones ?

From Love Street ?

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I believe the Stadium Director-aka Sn. Rae stated he did not have 'enuf munny' to replace the existing rusting relics.

Once the share issue comes to a head of steam we'll probably get two nice new ones to go with a plastic pitch and third division status.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 08:27:33
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 18 2008, 10:19 PM) [snapback]497087[/snapback]
It's a Rowlf actually happy.gif

It's a POUFFE ROWLF rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 08:28:36
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 18 2008, 09:45 PM) [snapback]497070[/snapback]
Some people get pleasure out of the strangest things rolleyes.gif

There are indeed many queer tastes.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 08:31:13
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 19 2008, 08:26 AM) [snapback]497182[/snapback]
They're running a bus from Paisley....

Two jumbo jets now-response has been good.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 08:54:33
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Aug 19 2008, 08:42 AM) [snapback]497188[/snapback]
I am about half way through the book and I am pretty disappointed with it. I don’t want to be too downbeat as it is great to read about Ritchie’s fantastic moments on the pitch, but I think the author could have achieved so much more. You only have to feel the thinness of the book and witness the large font to see that a little info has been padded out a very long way.

Here we go - first, I do not feel there is much warmth to the book – probably as a result of the lack of information on Andy Ritchie the person. Ton fans know what he did on the pitch but I was hoping to learn more about Ritchie the person. Ritchie’s childhood, education and coming of age passed me by in the blink of an eye. I think the author could have spent a little more time getting some stories from Ritchie as there is a distinct lack of character.

Second, and leading on from the 1st point – there are few quotations from Ritchie. Again, this leaves me slightly cold in that I want to not only know more about Ritchie but also what his own personal view on events in his life. In particular I would like to know more about the Ritchie/Stein relationship. I want to know more about the Ritchie’s feelings on not gaining a Scotland cap in the late 70’s. There may be hard subjects for Ritchie to open up on but surely that should be the whole point of the book? Otherwise no one – Ton fans and neutrals alike – learn anything we didn’t already know.

Third, I am not a big fan of the writer’s style. The book reads like an excited fans anecdote rather than a serious biography – it doesn’t strike me as the type of book a neutral fan could pick up, read and enjoy. Not only is there a lack of information about Ritchie the person, but the book also takes a short matter-of-fact to reporting pretty much all Morton’s fixtures season upon season. I am beginning to find it slightly tedious let alone a neutral football fan. The book just doesn’t have the vital spark I’m afraid.

Fourth, as already pointed out there are errors. Errors I can accept but some – like player names is not really acceptable. I won’t go on about it anymore.

Anyway – I’ll continue to plow on and hopefully read another 30 pages on the train home tonight.

Oh dear-never mind if it's so bad I'll get mine in Oxfam in a couple of months! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 08:57:10
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 19 2008, 07:06 AM) [snapback]497160[/snapback]
I received an email with an Excel spreadsheet this morning.

? ? ? ?

For all Maths champs... (including future champs too)

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Find the 6th Number?



1, 2, 6, 42, 1806,?


6th number is the password of the attachment.

_______________________________________________________________

Seemed a bit simple to me.

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But I entered the password and the bloody thing has been all over India, the Middle East and now Australia.

How strange.

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Alistair Donald?
mortonjag 2008-08-19 09:22:13
QUOTE(Savo @ Aug 19 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]497192[/snapback]
It's patently obvious Jim McAlister is being badly hampered by the new system - his body language is screaming as much.

He is constrained right away by the fact 3 players are used ahead of him. There is often nowhere for him to go when he picks the ball up from lying deep.

That is preventing him from having any real impact in an attacking sense - and more importantly it is harming us as a team. No wonder he's becoming frustrated.

What I don't understand is why he has not been moved forward already at the expense of either Newby or Russell. Irons and Collins have already seen what you get out of him in that front running role.

One final point - in my opinion all of this is the exact reason why Jim is getting into needless arguments with referees and being uncharacteristically stroppy with his team-mates on occasion.

I'm not saying it excuses such behaviour, but it does makes it somewhat understandable.

I agree-AND disagree. Newby, Russell, Wake, and indeed Spoonsy are potential goal getters-Jimbo so far is a 'hit and hoper'. IF those others were getting a decent supply-for example from either wing, or from a more creative midfield, they'd be knocking them in. Why should they be sacrificed to accommodate Jimbo as a front runner?

I strongly agree about the frustration part, and I feel extremely sorry for the boy. I sincerely believe he needs a move to further a potentially successful career, instead of ending up like Jamie did last season for similar reasons.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 09:32:58
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 19 2008, 09:10 AM) [snapback]497193[/snapback]
This is the biggest waste of time, effort and money. Any women presenting at doctor wishing this operation should be immediately referred to the psychology department at best or sectioned at worst.
Complete self-obsessed nonsense. There was a piece about the programme in The Independent yesterday and appartently one young woman had the procedure done because her sister was teasing her about her v*****!! Christ!! What she should have done is get rid of her sister!
What we need is some sort of population cull. Maybe the forthcoming conflict with Russia won't be too bad after all.

HA-McArthur, and therein lies the problem. As the procedure is available and CONSIDERED ethical, any doctor refusing to refer such women for a second opinion would be deemed in breach of his terms of service!

That's the sort of thing that happens when politicians and bureaucrats are allowed to run professions and services of which they have minimal understanding. I know how I would deal with those F*NNIES-indeed they would top your population cull list! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 19 2008, 09:12 AM) [snapback]497194[/snapback]
Oh for Christ sake mods, who the hell would be offended by the word v*****. Get a grip. mad.gif

That's what happens when bureaucrats are allowed to run things they don't understand. Hmm-it seems all too common. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 10:32:35
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Aug 19 2008, 09:36 AM) [snapback]497201[/snapback]
MJ

As I stated, it was a perfectly valid question, and if someone had the information for the original poster then great, but Newton attempted to take the topic in another direction which happens to 99.9% of threads on here, and it's unbelievably tiresome to read over and over again.

Now I tend not to post on topics unless they are football-related, hell maybe I just decided to say what I think, it doesn't happen too often with me you see, but you never fail to disappoint in your replies. I was absolutely certain that I would wake up to some condescending remark about my age/intelligence etc. from yourself, and you certainly delivered.

The last I'm saying on the topic. Have a fantastic day smile.gif

This was your original comment:

Honestly, is there any need to have another thread going over this again?



That says it all. OK-you added the qualifier that you find long repetitive threads tiresome. You know the solution and it's NOT by trying to muffle other folk's legitimate opinions.

The thread was about the share issue and the related EGM. NewTON did NOT take the topic in another direction-you incorrectly decided he had! dry.gif

You ARE correct-stick to your opinions about football- the game- and leave those with experience and knowledge to sort out the business issues.

Just for the record son-I only ever don the patronising bunnet for little chaps who have grandiose ideas of their own importance.

We've finally got to a stage where criticism of the regime is tolerated-almost welcomed. I take it you regard that as a bad thing.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 10:41:40
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 19 2008, 10:30 AM) [snapback]497207[/snapback]
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So, you can speak for the majority of fans can you?
What a joke you are.

I'm sorry. You have evidence to the contrary I imagine. You CERTAINLY haven't got it from this massage board dry.gif

Mortonjag is entirely happy to amuse blind sycophantic weasels.

Do you have any informative data, or is your post a further example of resentment? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 10:53:51
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 19 2008, 10:41 AM) [snapback]497211[/snapback]
Actually..the thread was only about if anyone had attended the EGM, the original poster made no mention of the share issue in their first post happy.gif

laugh.gif Actually that should have been 'his'! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Aug 19 2008, 10:48 AM) [snapback]497213[/snapback]
Actually Puggs, there was a new thread started last night (see post 64) but some clever mod decided to merge it just to confuse everyone laugh.gif

So we're all in the clear! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 11:06:10
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 19 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]497216[/snapback]
Assuming you are fully aware of the sexuality of the poster. I was not so opted for the non-gender specific term.

I thank you smile.gif

Edit - And upon further enquiries their gender is not set in their profile so I was correct in what I said. wink.gif

No you didn't-you simply displayed your usual abysmal grasp of your native language.

If you had wished, you could have opted for the all too common and stultifying 'his/her'. Indeed, for complete avoidance of confusion, 'his/her/its' may have been appropriate.

It's bad enough being ignorant young man. Arguing with those who DO know is plainly silly.

mortonjag 2008-08-19 12:10:48
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 19 2008, 11:28 AM) [snapback]497224[/snapback]
You may believe him to be correct that Rae is holding the club back in some ways - I don't know that I entirely disagree with that either.
What he is wrong about is that he does not and never will speak for or have the voice of the majority of Morton fans.
Here's a wee bit of info for you. This message board is not "real life" and the majority of Morton fans do not use it.

Resentment? I honestly have no idea what you are going on about but once again your reply to me contains petty schoolboy name calling. Why do always you have to demean yourself with these insults and name calling? Were you bullied as a child?

You described me as 'a joke'. Do you expect to give and not receive in return?

The fact is that the majority of fans (this massage board is representative enough for me-if it's not for you explain why) is now unhappy with the Rae Dynasty, and I'm perfectly entitled to 'speak for' them-note parenthesis.

As for name calling-it's perfectly simple RH-you jumped in uninvited with yet another of your viperous and inaccurate posts in pursuit of your long running grievance.

I suggest you accept that Mortonjag has been for the most part, correct all along. Others are now putting in their tuppence worth in my support where previously they may have agreed, but chose to stay quiet.





QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 19 2008, 11:48 AM) [snapback]497227[/snapback]
Misplaced indignation!

You made exactly the kind of statement that you'd go down someone elses throat for. Remember and say IMHO next time. rolleyes.gif

WTF are you babbling about? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 12:19:44
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 19 2008, 11:54 AM) [snapback]497230[/snapback]
But you said I should have said 'his' when clearly it is not known.

Don't you hate it when I tell you the truth eh wink.gif

You SHOULD have said 'his'.'His' is grammatically correct and still entirely acceptable where gender remains undefined.

Had you wished, you could-as I indicated- have used 'his/her'.

The noun 'poster' is singular, and in NO CIRCUMSTANCE would 'their' be appropriate, in relation to a singular noun.

I never hate being told the truth young man. Normally when people contend my statements they find themselves to have been misguided. rolleyes.gif

mortonjag 2008-08-19 12:30:19
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 19 2008, 12:19 PM) [snapback]497239[/snapback]
What am I babbling about? Seems fairly self-explanatory.

What evidence do you have for your intial statement? If none (messageboard posters aren't entirely representative I suspect), then it is YOUR OPINION and should be identified accordingly. Don't you agree? happy.gif

NO-I strongly disagree. If you don't think the focus of attention of any real footie fan those days is the 'unofficial forum' I believe you are misguided. That is where the pulse of the real fans can be palpated.

Less enthusiastic fans are voting with their feet-nothing could be MORE OBVIOUS. They can't even be arsed coming to Cappielow any more, let alone demonstrating enough enthusiasm to debate on our massage board.

For your information, Real Hoops' agenda has little to do with Morton. He has bitterly resented Mortonjag for many a day, and his post was nothing other than another personal attack.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 12:37:17
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 19 2008, 11:55 AM) [snapback]497231[/snapback]
That's going to be the thing with this league this season.

There isn't a team that's not capable of beating any other team on a given day - it's just going to be a case of which players are on form that day.

Livi just had more players on form.

It's a bit early to criticise Newby too much - he just had a bad game. He's done pretty well in other games.

I think it had a lot to do with their having an astute manager who exploited our inherent weaknesses-on form or not.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 12:38:51
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 19 2008, 12:28 PM) [snapback]497241[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2008-08-19 12:40:37
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 19 2008, 12:38 PM) [snapback]497246[/snapback]
Possibly so. Time will tell

Indeed, as it always does, and has in the case of the Rae Dynasty.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 12:45:43
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 19 2008, 12:37 PM) [snapback]497244[/snapback]
I think you're wrong - this messageboard is NOT representative.

It's peopled by people who:

- have regular unfettered access to a computer
- have spare time to spend reading and writing posts
- are bothered enough to post.
- often have their own wee agendas

e.g. militant millionaire playboys such as myself.

It does not, imo, capture the majority of Morton supporters; a lot of whom will not fall into any of the above categories.

Do you sincerely believe that the majority of Morton fans is happy with the current regime, and if so, can you define the yardstick for that opinion.

I agree that the forum represents a cross section. I strongly believe that cross section DOES reflect majority opinion.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 12:48:40
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 19 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]497250[/snapback]
oh FFS!

I refer my learned friend to my previous post on another topic regarding "agendas".



My 'agenda' seems to have proven positive Trumpton.

You seem to be of the opinion that the current incumbents at Cappielow are 'doing fine'!
mortonjag 2008-08-19 12:52:08
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 19 2008, 12:46 PM) [snapback]497254[/snapback]
Which one was Frankly - the man or the Fish?

'frankly' was not capitalised!

'Frankly' is a merman.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 12:58:34
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 29 2008, 06:44 PM) [snapback]486218[/snapback]
We ended up heading down by the tower and I bought a 12 pack of the same beer for around 7 euros.
Correct and if I get any more s*** from places like the Jimmy Watt I'll be giving up eating as well. laugh.gif

How much luvly munny have you saved since you went on the 'wagon'? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 13:05:39
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 19 2008, 12:57 PM) [snapback]497262[/snapback]
Yeah right. unsure.gif Dont flatter yourself.



Then mortonjag will assume that in future any post you make about mortonjag will not be bristling with palpably blatant hostility and resentment! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 13:09:34
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 19 2008, 12:55 PM) [snapback]497258[/snapback]
Didn't realise the Raes were now candidates for a place on the left of our midfield rolleyes.gif
This whole thing about not rating McGuffie meaning you can't watch games probably is arrant nonsense anyway.



QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 19 2008, 01:00 PM) [snapback]497265[/snapback]
I don't think anything at all has been proven.

And I'm not sure how you came to your assessment of my opinion?

p.s. using ' ' can be quite a negative thing on here, I've noticed.

I know that PLENTY has been proven! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 13:14:50
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 19 2008, 12:55 PM) [snapback]497259[/snapback]
You are not telling me anything I don't already know.

However I am comfortable with the fact I don't have the best grammar around, you on the other hand take it as a sign of a lesser being. I'm sure you will get over it at some point smile.gif

Don't be daft. I wouldn't dream of arguing with you about piping matters. I'm sure that if I did you'd regard me as a wee bit silly!

QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Aug 19 2008, 01:00 PM) [snapback]497266[/snapback]
You really are a helmet. Why do you insist on pulling people up on stupid things like that? If you just stuck to posting your opinion (some of which is very interesting) instead of trying to pull out the "respect your elders" card & "son" chat then maybe a lot of people on here wouldn't think you were such a senile, old, slippers in the freezer type, looney tune.

Don't foist your own misguided thoughts on others! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 13:17:15
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 19 2008, 01:14 PM) [snapback]497277[/snapback]
NOTHING has been proven!! rolleyes.gif

Plenty has been proven. I am party to lots of information. I know we've been here before. Many others are party to the same information. I do not share it with anonymous posters! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 13:23:10
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Aug 19 2008, 01:21 PM) [snapback]497281[/snapback]
So we've got a problem on the left side of midfield.

Indeed we have-we haven't currently got enuf munny to sort it! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 13:32:48
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 19 2008, 01:23 PM) [snapback]497283[/snapback]
NOTHING has been proven - unless you can prove that it has.

"I know something you don't know!" - That is frankly the last bastion of the defeated! smile.gif

Not at all-it's a simple statement of fact, like the one about us having a problem with the left side of midfield!
mortonjag 2008-08-19 13:35:00
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 19 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]497284[/snapback]
Am I not getting any answers to my questions? rolleyes.gif

I would still really like to know why my post was, as you said "uninvited" and who it is that I should ask permission of to make my post? Is it true that not only do you speak for the whole Morton support but you are now policing the message board as well?

I don’t suppose you'll admit your arrogant mistake but it's not like you to simply brush your own errors under the carpet.

Oh wait,. ,..Actually it is exactly like you to do that. laugh.gif

Keep talking to yourself! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 13:44:38
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Aug 19 2008, 01:31 PM) [snapback]497293[/snapback]
I think this board is quite representative of the views of Morton fans in general, with a slant towards a more diplomatic version of how people view goings on at the club.

I usually talk to lot of people in and around Cappielow, the Norseman etc. friends and people I frequently meet at games and then other people who don’t go to Cappielow but are very interested in what’s happening at the club (sleeping supporter’s etc.).

I would say that although MJ comes across as something of a dissident voice on this board, there are many I know who would make him sound very diplomatic. There are many people who love Morton and have a high level of expectation in the style of football we should play, where our standing should be and how the club should be run. These are mainly very knowledgable people who have been brought up in the best traditions of Morton, yet many of them don't go to Cappielow but could return if we improve our performance as a club.

They are a bit like myself if I may say so, however I keep my season ticket going and follow the Ton with great optimism that we will return to the standards we grew up with. Because I am a season ticket holder however doesn’t mean I had to swear on oath to pretend everything is great at Cappielow when a lot of things can be improved. I tell it as I see it and that probably means I would find it difficult to persuade a friend to come to Cappielow, as the Chairman asked, without lying about the quality of football on offer.

How would I be able to describe recent performances in a way that would make people want to attend? I’d have to face those people during or after the match and they’d be questioning my judgement or thinking my standards or football knowledge had dropped dramatically. Those people will know when I start enthusing about the football and then there’e a chance they may return to Cappielow, and if I’m telling the truth they might keep coming.

An interesting post DOT.

Sometimes I wonder if I should start extolling the virtues of the present regime!!! unsure.gif

I weary of personal attacks now and again. I expected them when only myself and a few others were critical, but it's so obvious that there is general dissatisfaction now.

It is equally obvious that several posters will claim that black is white in attempts to discredit me. That is dishonest, and does not contribute positively to the debate.

mortonjag 2008-08-19 13:50:05
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 19 2008, 01:44 PM) [snapback]497300[/snapback]
Nope, sorry MJ.

My dictionary's definition of "proven" includes the word "demonstrate". You can't PROVE something by referring to something that you can't/ won't demonstrate, I'm afraid.

Look it up.

Come to think of it, our problem with left midfield is not a fact, but our perceived opinion - albeit a common one.

If you choose to discount the ground swell of opinion on this pubic massage board, and the relative exodus of fans from Cappielow as non demonstrative I'm afraid you think in a different way from me.

What do you make of DOT's post?
mortonjag 2008-08-19 13:53:22
QUOTE(tontastic @ Aug 19 2008, 01:47 PM) [snapback]497305[/snapback]
Posting on a forum is a peculiar thing. You get the chance to give a title, a description then a main body to a post. Some posters will insist on posting a completely random title which appears only weakly linked to the subject that they are talking about. Others follow the spirit of reason and post briefly and to the point. We all suffer the effects of posters who drag many a topic down their depraved back alley of an agenda.

All of this I am suggesting relates to the newspaper world where many a headline hides the truth behind a story or the agenda of the editor or owner, and many pages of print can bear the subliminal message against/for the government or whoever.

If you were a newspaper/magazine whatever ... which one would suit your style of posting?




blink.gif

Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.


News of the World! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 13:59:03
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 19 2008, 01:53 PM) [snapback]497308[/snapback]
The Beano

I think the Big Mod wants us to be serious! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 14:12:03
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 19 2008, 02:01 PM) [snapback]497316[/snapback]
Hmm? wink.gif Still no answer. Please tell me why my post was "uninvited" I'd really like to know who invites the posters on YOUR message board.

If your problem is honestly just one of semantics, I perceived you as 'unwelcome' when you posted this!


What a joke you are.


That was all.


If your problem is honestly just one of semantics, I invite you to confirm that!

mortonjag 2008-08-19 14:14:51
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 19 2008, 02:02 PM) [snapback]497317[/snapback]
I was going to say that sad.gif
He is being serious mellow.gif wink.gif

Think I must be the Greenock Telegraph, full of nonsense stories and bad spellingg. laugh.gif

With the occasional inaccurate press release from Cappielow thrown in for good measure? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 14:16:01
QUOTE(forza ton @ Aug 19 2008, 02:06 PM) [snapback]497320[/snapback]
i'm going to miss you all terribly. please look after mj and call him a c*** at least once a day. he likes that.

cool.gif

laugh.gif

May your willie be burned to a cinder!
mortonjag 2008-08-19 14:19:18
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 19 2008, 02:13 PM) [snapback]497327[/snapback]
rolleyes.gif It took you nearly two hours to come up with that one.
very poor.

I invited you to confirm that your problem is simply one of semantics.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 14:20:56
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 19 2008, 02:13 PM) [snapback]497326[/snapback]
If I've learned anything from football messageboards is that the majority of people who post on them are self-important, opinionated wankers. I take it everyone on here has had a look at Pie and Bovril for instance? Jesus, what a bunch of ill-informed inbreds. It makes this place look like Glasgow University.
Football message boards attract two kinds of people; those who like a laugh and don't take it too seriously and those "with contacts" who think "they know".
Some of the nicest people I've met in my life have been Morton supporters and some of the most spiteful, horrid pricks I've met have also been Morton supporters.

Aye McArthur, and a third group who flagrantly and unashamedly foist their capitalism on innocent posters! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 14:23:06
QUOTE(forza ton @ Aug 19 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]497333[/snapback]
you're gonna miss me mj eh?

wub.gif

May you walk under a herd of stampeding bulls! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 14:24:19
QUOTE(tontastic @ Aug 19 2008, 02:17 PM) [snapback]497332[/snapback]
quoth the man from "The Digger"

potential ethnic slur not removed! unsure.gif

OH-this is what you meant. My Dad would have been impressed!

If you are looking for news and views in the world of Field Archaeology then you have come to the right place. Use the menu on the left or above to navigate to the latest issue or view the archive.

The Digger is produced as a regular newsletter by a digger somewhere in the UK and gets right into the nitty gritty of field archaeology - warts and all!
mortonjag 2008-08-19 14:42:40
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 19 2008, 02:40 PM) [snapback]497347[/snapback]
Indeed. Never ceases to amaze me how people on messageboards often seem to think that people actually give a flying feck about what they do. In all honesty, if anyone on here just stopped posting for no reason, I really wouldn't care less, never mind going away for a couple of weeks.
Do folk have no real friends to tell these things? unsure.gif
Now, if you will all excuse me, I'm away to the cemetary to watch for passing helicopters ohmy.gif

Watch out for seagulls.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 14:45:20
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 19 2008, 02:36 PM) [snapback]497344[/snapback]
Semantics was not the problem, only your excuse for your arrogance.

Was it just semantics when you stated that my post (a question) was inaccurate? rolleyes.gif

Just go away now, I don’t expect nor need an apology from you as your condescension and obtuseness is there for all to see.

Anyway, I’m sure by now everyone is more than bored with this.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

What makes you sure you can gauge the opinion of others.

I think that by your own 'logic' that entitles me to say........


You are a joke! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 15:18:34
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Aug 19 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]497363[/snapback]
Oh aye. This was the topic at the start of the thread.....I almost forgot!

Indeed-it went off thread at post 89! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 15:21:30
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Aug 19 2008, 12:57 PM) [snapback]497263[/snapback]
One of the turnstyles in the late 70s/early 80s was called "the Benny Rooney turnstyle" because our manager at the time kept all cash coming through that one.

Oh well-he certainly deserved his rewards-I was positively thrilled by some of the football played in those days.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 16:09:48
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Aug 19 2008, 03:26 PM) [snapback]497375[/snapback]
And the chairman?

If you mean Hal Stewart-he was worth his weight in gold to the club.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 17:00:15
QUOTE(Savo @ Aug 19 2008, 04:41 PM) [snapback]497399[/snapback]
I honestly believe he can prove you wrong about the hit and hope bit, mj. He played in an advanced role against Dundee and Livi (I think) at Cappielow near end of season, scored our only goals in both games, and more than looked the part.

I should also add I am not one of those getting at Jon Newby - far from it in fact. I actually think he makes very intelligent runs. In speed of thought he is a step ahead of the centre mid at times.

But whatever way we work it, if it is to be a 3 up front, then it is imperative Jim is a part of it IMO.

Maybe I should put it on record that I'm not anti-Jimbo. I've never felt a need to overly criticise him until this season, and he's played a huge part for us in previous years. I'd be quite happy to see him tried out as you suggest for-say-45 minutes on Saturday, and if it's not working sub him. I simply think it's wrong to keep planking him out on the left.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 17:06:55
QUOTE(Bryan @ Aug 19 2008, 05:04 PM) [snapback]497405[/snapback]
away with fing ph34r.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-19 17:27:54
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 19 2008, 05:17 PM) [snapback]497412[/snapback]
I think you'll find that a large number of the Club's core support use this forum. If not to post regularly, then to gauge opinion and go away and discuss issues with friends/down the pub/on the terraces. I think if a polling company were to ask people who regularly post/read and go away to discuss topics on here, they would be able to come up with statistics representative of the views of a majority of regular supporters.

I don't have the money to pay Populus, but I'm fairly confident that most of the threads on here, the ones that get as many responses as this anyway, back up what I'm saying.

Its ok to be sycophantic and shout 'For he's a jolly good fellow' or the like when the rich man who gives you a football club to support is actually developing it. But, sadly, Mr Rae appears to be courting another rich man to take over in terms of investment, if not with a view to selling the club on. He sees us as the plebs and nothing more, make no mistake. He is a businessman, he knows the right things to say, he would never tell you that of course. He is going to throw out a few platitudinous statements now and again, but they are just that, platitudes. Grand ideas that sound nice when he says them, but amounting to jacksh*t!

I think a proper forum where all of us can have our questions answer first is due soon. I've not been interested in the past, but I have a few of my own to ask the man and I will be there next time.

What makes you imagine that we're about to have a Q & A where The Chairman will honestly and openly address questions (I think that's what you're suggesting).
mortonjag 2008-08-19 17:35:00 We will take between 2000 and 3000.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 17:45:01
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 19 2008, 05:38 PM) [snapback]497430[/snapback]
Or alternatively, you could just have said. "You're right RH I did make a tit of myself, sorry, now.. back on topic"
It's just a guess, but I reckon that if anyone here could be regarded as a laughing stock it would be the grown man that can't admit when he's wrong, uses juvenile name calling and still keeps a stuffed toy. wink.gif

Have a nice evening now!

What makes you think you can gauge the opinion of others RH? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 17:50:52
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 19 2008, 05:37 PM) [snapback]497429[/snapback]
Most supporters clubs are only on their second bus, no chance of 3000!

I like to be positive at all times. The curiosity element will haul quite a few in.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 17:52:10
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 19 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]497443[/snapback]
Can't you read? mellow.gif
It's also just a guess but I reckon most people are bored with this nonsense.

Good.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 17:54:08
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 19 2008, 05:46 PM) [snapback]497441[/snapback]
What I want to know is is there a job in Quality Control ?
Willowman was asking tongue.gif

You'd get bored very quickly-one c*nt's very much the same as another!
mortonjag 2008-08-19 20:07:17
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Aug 19 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]497475[/snapback]
The U19s game was postponed and the U17s beat Raith Rovers 3-0 at St Andrews. rolleyes.gif

Were you there Anus? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 20:08:38
QUOTE(Mick @ Aug 19 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]497476[/snapback]
I have a new found level of respect for Brian Wake....

He was rather uncomplimentary about Jamie too! blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 20:12:48
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Aug 19 2008, 06:21 PM) [snapback]497464[/snapback]
That’s a very good point, there are better teams than Morton with right footed players on the left and vice versa. Come to think of it, Jim has put in some excellent performances on the left (E.g. vs Killie) and through the centre as an attacking midfielder (E.g. vs Dunfermline away).

He’s been tried on the right several times, though usually for just part of a game, and if memory serves he produced very little, certainly less than Kevin Finlayson. You may have hit the nail on the head in that if Jim’s not playing well it’s because he’s off form rather than out of position.

When we play 3-5-2 I think Jim and Kev do as good a job as any wing backs in the division, due mainly to their work rate and pace. Maybe we’ll just have to make do until we can offload some unwanted players. It’s a bit frustrating that we’re taking so long to build a balanced looking team, especially when you see the team Livvi cobbled together, playing a solid looking 4-4-2 with players in their natural positions.

I think the only formation that suits the players we have is 3-5-2, which has strangely been the case for the last few seasons.

'Fraid I disagree-both have fantastic work rate and track back well but neither is a natural defender who can cope properly with a winger.

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 19 2008, 07:05 PM) [snapback]497482[/snapback]
I'm not at all convinced with 3-5-2 defensively - when full-backs overlap neither McAllister nor Finlayson have the positional awareness or experience to cope with this: opposition teams identified it last season (notably the second game at Dunfermline) and I think Irons has as well.

Indeed.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 20:16:45
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Aug 19 2008, 06:21 PM) [snapback]497463[/snapback]
This'll be one of the rare occasions when the Hibs fans are outnumbered by the away support. Anyone not there by 7pm will be risking a lockout. I'm running several hundred buses to the game - all with LRT written on the side.

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mortonjag 2008-08-19 20:24:29
QUOTE(e_f @ Aug 19 2008, 07:17 PM) [snapback]497487[/snapback]
Thank you NewTon. I eventually found your answer.

I take it there is no mention of a minimum purchase.

I'm told that details of the share issue is easily available. Only to someone with the detective skills of Sherlock Holmes.

I asked a reasonble question for a very good reason, which will become apparent in the next few days hopefully, concerning what seems to be a serious problem with the club. I don't spend half my life reading this board so I'm not familair with everything that goes on. Looking at the nonsense that followed my question, it's easy to see why it's not alwas worth reading.

If NewTon is of a certain age, as MJ alludes to, why act so childish? His answer could have easily been posted right away and, furthermore, not hidden away among crap on another thread.

I don't have personal agendas, as many on here seem to have - all I want is what we all should want. The best for our club.

You are to be congratulated for that!

Incidentally, what was the question and answer?

Please don't misjudge Newt-he's been trying to get answers about the share issue for endless weeks from folk who would undoubtedly claim to have the club's best interests at heart!

Newt made an offer to the Club worth some £20,000 in the not too distant past. He was treated in an utterly shabby fashion.

How many of his regular detractors have put their money where their mouths are?
mortonjag 2008-08-19 20:37:50
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 19 2008, 07:45 PM) [snapback]497496[/snapback]
Half a hunner? wink.gif

laugh.gif

Plenty of sexually able fifty year olds around Mrs T!
mortonjag 2008-08-19 20:40:44
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 19 2008, 07:01 PM) [snapback]497481[/snapback]
This thread is my worst mustard experience. sad.gif

Not the hottest one has to say!
mortonjag 2008-08-19 20:44:07
QUOTE(leyTON @ Aug 19 2008, 08:23 PM) [snapback]497510[/snapback]
im struggling
theres some id happily toss overboard

You must be an accomplished swimmer.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 21:02:06
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 19 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]497522[/snapback]
You don't do public transport, do you? tongue.gif

Is that a serious question-the Monkey and Fing are very choosy! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 21:05:16
QUOTE(e_f @ Aug 19 2008, 08:57 PM) [snapback]497540[/snapback]
http://www.greenockmorton.org/forum/index....st&p=497080

It was originally posted as a new thread last night but the Mods, in their wisdom, merged it in this thread.

By the way, MJ, I've sent a PM.

thumbup2.gif smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 21:07:27
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 19 2008, 08:51 PM) [snapback]497535[/snapback]
Mind it's not your usual Vicars and Tarts party, this one is the...
Nip and Tuck Party.
Where the hell did I leave ma coat blush.gif

I heard it was the Snip and F*ck party.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 21:10:09 Mortonjag would cram as many good souls in as possible on the strict understanding that they assisted him in holding several heads under the water. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 21:12:02
QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 19 2008, 08:44 PM) [snapback]497530[/snapback]
Oral Rehydration fluid when you get in from a night out. Drink one sachet mixed with water then and one in the morning should you require it (which you probably won't) - it's a miracle cure.

Diaralyte is the stuff. It is embarrassing through because the people in the shop think you have diahhrea when you buy it.

Are you sure they don't think you're an alky? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 21:14:40
QUOTE(Benny Boy @ Aug 19 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]497552[/snapback]
From John Riddle's own website: "Andy was in the team that rose from the bottom of the old second division to the top of the Scottish Premier League."

Er, no he wasn't. Oh dear.

It also says he has written a book on "Lou McCari" laugh.gif Now even I know that's not how you spell his name.

Llama curry (lamb achari)-effin brilliant!
mortonjag 2008-08-19 21:31:37
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 19 2008, 09:17 PM) [snapback]497560[/snapback]
midTONs hopes thats mortonjags boat is not to far behind WeegieTons boat. wink.gif

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 21:53:45
QUOTE(jpmil @ Aug 19 2008, 09:38 PM) [snapback]497569[/snapback]
I've got an excuse....I didn't know about the EGM as I didn't receive any notice of such.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 21:55:55
QUOTE(Lord Morton @ Aug 19 2008, 09:44 PM) [snapback]497572[/snapback]
Great to see Wake keeping the scoring up with another peach on Saturday. I'll be the first to admit I really did think his heroic antics at the end of last season would be followed up by complete disappointment as the goals dried up - but i've been proven wrong and hopefully it continues.

Wakey has been a revelation. He was utter keech at first, but the big man has proved Mortonjag wrong.

That is of course an achievement in its own right! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 21:58:30
QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 19 2008, 09:46 PM) [snapback]497575[/snapback]
Quite sure, yes. They just think I have a bad case of the runs. Not sure it is too well known as a hangover cure.

Don't underestimate those chemists-Dr Bam will confirm that they are bright chaps!
mortonjag 2008-08-19 22:00:27
QUOTE(princessTON @ Aug 19 2008, 09:47 PM) [snapback]497576[/snapback]
i wouldnt save anyone, so then the messageboard would be all mine cool.gif

laugh.gif

You'd need some camera equipment to make full use of it.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 22:02:33
QUOTE(capitanus @ Aug 19 2008, 09:54 PM) [snapback]497581[/snapback]
The Digger is the wee weekly magazine with all the court stocks from the Glasgow area, and a outlet to out allsorts of Scumbags under the sun.

A fantastic read, covers the stories that biscuit-a[b]rsed reporters like Norman Sylvester at the Sunday Mail would be too scared to touch.[/b]

Then I shall take the Big Mod's comment as a compliment! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 22:41:25
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 19 2008, 10:34 PM) [snapback]497605[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2008-08-19 22:45:11
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 19 2008, 10:42 PM) [snapback]497613[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDTommy Sheridan's ugly brother?
mortonjag 2008-08-19 22:56:04
QUOTE(capitanus @ Aug 19 2008, 10:12 PM) [snapback]497593[/snapback]
I honestly think that the general consensus of views on the Morton Unofficial messageboards is the best barometer of opinion that we have amongst the support, and has been since the late 1990s.

Take from that what you will.

I agree, but would also point to enthusiasm or otherwise as manifested by attendances at Cappielow, the atmosphere in the Shed, and the level of complaints about/exhortations to the fans emanating from 'The Club'.

It seems obvious that those who are most strongly interested in the Ton will attempt to access the unofficial massage board at least from time to time.

It seems equally obvious that those who disagree with the body of opinion on the forum will attempt to discredit it, thereby aligning themselves with Sn. Rae and his 'rag' comment.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 22:57:36
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 19 2008, 10:51 PM) [snapback]497617[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDAndy M!!!!!!!
mortonjag 2008-08-19 23:01:28
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 19 2008, 10:56 PM) [snapback]497620[/snapback]
All very valid points, but I disagree entirely that the group of people here is a representative sample of the Morton support.

I've already set out the groups of people who I think post on here. That's not to say that the points made on here aren't valid or that they aren't genuine and widely held views.

My point is that it's not safe to assume that the posters on here always have the groundswell of opinion behind them - no matter how much they may think so.

This is, after all, a rather militant forum - even by football messageboard standards. What % of the regular attendees at Cappielow are regular posters? Not that high, I think, given that the same names dominate most of the topics here. Do those few represent everyone?

Really-in what respect is it militant?
mortonjag 2008-08-20 07:10:14
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Aug 19 2008, 11:23 PM) [snapback]497635[/snapback]
Maybe we can get the opinion of a statistician. But if I remember my basics any poll taken of supporters would have to be a random sample. This message board would not be considered a random sample of Morton supporters, far from it. There is also, even if it was truly random, a margin of error of plus or minus 4% at a 95 percent level of confidence.

Not only must the sample be truly random, the questions must not be slanted etc. but the person asking the questions and in this instance is also posing the answers must be neutral. Those are the things that will be manipulated if someone wants to skew a result.

Bottom line, any poll or personal opinion stated on this message board is just that....it doesn't necessarily represent the opinion of every Morton fan. It may indeed be a barometer but it's probably as accurate as sticking your finger in the air to work out which way the wind is blowing and whether it will rain tomorrow.

WHY NOT Measles? unsure.gif

Are the posters press ganged into joining. Do they get p.m.s from the Mods telling them what to think. The forum's as random and representative as you'll get, and in any case statistics are usually complete bollocks!!!

Have a look at the TREND! Crowds up 100% on third Division levels-Cowshed noise up 100% on third Division levels-Newspaper coverage up 100% on third Division levels-Mr Rae's expressions of pleasure up 100% on third Division levels-NOW that's different-forget this putrid little rag and look at the trend Measles. We sure are advancing! dry.gif

QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Aug 20 2008, 12:13 AM) [snapback]497649[/snapback]
I'm very surprised you don't hear many comments on the performance of the directors. I hear plenty of (normally well informed and intelligent) conversations and opinions about how the club is being run, youth policies etc. as well as management, tactics etc.

As I said earlier, in my experience this message board does not quite reflect the level of dissatisfaction amongst many of the fans I am in contact with. There seem to be a much smaller percentage on this board who voice that dissatisfaction, and there is a noticable reaction against those few who chose to air these views, almost as though they are being ganged up on at times. I find this surprising as it's almost the reverse of what I hear from the fans I mix with. I often find myself standing up for Morton and even the board, and I am certainly far from a Morton sycophant.

I think you're correct in saying we grew up in different times. I've watched some exciting Morton teams and players, achieving mixed success. McGraw, Ritchie, the Danes etc. but the team with McInnes and Lindberg also excited me. However one of the reasons I love Morton is our tradition of playing attacking football home and away, we have even demonstrated this in recent years although the quality hasn't always been great. The main thing for me is we strive for these standards, and I think plenty of fans would agree.

As I stated to Measles, DOT. it matters very little. If the massage board is not a true reflection of opinion-and incidentally I share your highlighted experience, so be it. It's still a pretty effective method of sharing opinions, and is, to all intents and purposes uncensored.

Are we about to be told also that the trend on our forum bears no resemblance to the general trend among fans. Two years ago mild criticism of the Chairman invariably catalysed a viperous diatribe with accusations of personal vendettas, jealousy, lack of respect, ungratefulness etc., etc, normally accompanied by several 'I can never thank Mr Rae enough' posts.

Even a year ago-despite a summer of non activity and claims that he would not be bullied into signing players, Mr Rae had still a staunch support on our pubic massage board-albeit more muted and less violent than previously.

I presume that few have failed to notice a significant change. Mr Rae is now berated and criticised day and daily with impunity. Nobody now stands up for him-he's become a laughing stock for many, and STILL he thinks he can plead to the fans.

His previously vociferous allies now adopt more subtle methods. They attempt to discredit the forum in general terms, while making pathetically futile efforts to muffle and ridicule legitimate questions-indeed, at least one of Mr Rae's own employees was recently guilty of that on a grand scale, in the long running Alistair Donald thread- behaviour which leaves one wondering if 'the Club' has even attempted to influence the owner of this web site! unsure.gif


Mr Rae will not change-that's for sure, and he's made it pretty obvious by his behaviour that he sees the fans as his chattels. It's sad, in my opinion, that we still have a few posters who clearly think he's the best thing since sliced bread. The sheep are always with us I guess.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 07:24:42
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 19 2008, 11:10 PM) [snapback]497630[/snapback]
DOT's post was a well constructed argument. I've commented on it.

I refer you to Davie McArthur's! smile.gif

Sorry for digressing from the topic.

McArthur has not posted on this thread. Was it something about cannibalistic rodents?
mortonjag 2008-08-20 07:30:08
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Aug 20 2008, 02:43 AM) [snapback]497668[/snapback]
Pah! F'ck the lot of you! dry.gif

blush.gif

smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 07:37:31
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 20 2008, 12:07 AM) [snapback]497647[/snapback]
If I get into a state where I will get a hangover I can guarantee that not only remembering the sachet and water will become impossible but so will actually operating either!

Rehydration sachets are a total waste of money for a hangover. They are designed to replace essential electrolytes lost in chronic diarrhoea. Alcohol causes dehydration by promoting increased flow through the kidneys, and essential electrolytes are spared.

Prevention is ALWAYS better than cure, and it's based on water and early intervention. As you suggest, most folk are too intoxicated to be bothered/ remember/care, but drinking plenty-and I MEAN plenty of ordinary tap water immediately after a binge will go a long way towards preventing a hangover.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 07:43:13 There is only one correct way to spell the gayest word in the dictionary.


POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-08-20 07:46:02 Enjoy! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 08:05:13
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 20 2008, 07:52 AM) [snapback]497688[/snapback]
These threads by Big Blue Eyes are really, really funny because you can tell that even though everyone knows she’s not real there are some who desperately want “her†to be a woman. I’ll bet “her†profile got a battering last night and I mean that in the proper sense, it’s not some pervy euphemism.

That said, not half as funny as the post that said we’d see a huge difference in Morton from last Saturday. No we won’t, we’ll see exactly the same tactics, exactly the same effort levels from the players and exactly the same outcome.

.....from the same blue eyed girls?
mortonjag 2008-08-20 08:09:18
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 20 2008, 08:06 AM) [snapback]497692[/snapback]
Ok people, only one day for plugging left.

I got the admission cost wrong and it's £4.00 in. We're on at 10.30. So get along and see the band The List has as one of the best 50 Scottish bands of all time.

No problem Mr Rae! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 08:12:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 18 2008, 11:59 PM) [snapback]497152[/snapback]
Gidday Bryan,

another month has passed.

any news ?

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Bryan-are you in hiding?
mortonjag 2008-08-20 08:22:48
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 20 2008, 08:16 AM) [snapback]497697[/snapback]
laugh.gif

Forgot to add, I'm planning on speaking to the audience for half an hour before we start playing.

Good evening ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to what I am certain will prove to be a stirring evening's entertainment. Tonight we welcome our old rivals from across the county Stoat Eat Stoat, who are managed by my worthy and lifelong friend and fellow musical Director.......erm ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 08:27:26
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 20 2008, 08:18 AM) [snapback]497698[/snapback]
See ma spelling was never that great, I keep think of a thing you put your feet on when you spell it that way.

If only the bouncy fireman had realised that Sean-indeed you may stand on-nay-JUMP on POUFFES to your heart's content!
mortonjag 2008-08-20 08:42:01
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Aug 20 2008, 08:30 AM) [snapback]497701[/snapback]
I just don't think we have the players capable of playing a 3-5-2. To play this formation you need very fit players who are comfortable in defence and going forward. Our current wide men don't quite seem to know how to play this position yet.

I was hospitality on Saturday and asked Collins at the Q&A if 3 at the back was the management choice or due to the current playing staff. He admitted it was difficult to get full backs in which suggests a preference for 4 at the back.

Did he mention why? I've always thought Derek Collins would be the very man who would spot the deficiencies of the current 'wing backs'.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 09:36:06
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 20 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]497716[/snapback]
laugh.gif Not really, 'she' drives a Peugeot, bit too common...............

Mortonjag drives a Saab-old man's motor-thing is it's not-well not Mortonjag's!

I wonder what Pug she drives, if indeed she exists!

Tonsilitis drives a Pug-I've seen his motor and it's anything but common!
mortonjag 2008-08-20 10:29:47
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 20 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]497731[/snapback]
Davie McArthur drives a Peugeot, a 407 to be precise and Mrs Davie McArthur also drives a Peugeot. That's fighting talk young Genitals. mad.gif

'Wee baws'!
mortonjag 2008-08-20 10:34:53
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 20 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]497725[/snapback]
FFS, sounds like the Forth Road Bridge scenario there mate laugh.gif

NOPE!
mortonjag 2008-08-20 11:06:07
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 20 2008, 10:41 AM) [snapback]497740[/snapback]
Rail bridge?? blush.gif

laugh.gif

The original expression was-'It's like painting the Forth Bridge', and was coined long before a road bridge existed! I've noticed that almost everybody now says 'road bridge'-you are not alone Weegie! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 11:08:44
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 20 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]497746[/snapback]
I blame the immigrants.

That's a first.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 11:13:07
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 11:05 AM) [snapback]497749[/snapback]
Again, no major disagreements with the above.

I completely accept that just because I don't hear many conversations about DDFR doesn't mean they don't happen.

Neither would I argue that their aren't a number of supporters (perhaps significant, perhaps not) who are dissatisfied with the way the club is run.

I don't accept, though, that the posters on this forum are a reliable method of assessing the general opinion. The posters here are often heavily opinionated, motivated enough to express that opinion and have easy access to PCs.

It's not a safe assumption, though, that everyone shares those qualities(!) or that the most frequently expressed opinions here (where a few posters dominate most proceedings) are those felt through the entire support.

Spokesmen for "right-minded people" should always be treated with suspicion.

All 'spokesmen' should be treated with caution-I agree with you.

Why don't you run a poll of our posters?

It will surely indicate something!
mortonjag 2008-08-20 11:16:19
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 20 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]497752[/snapback]
This is the problem with a small squad you struggle unless you get flexibility which means sometimes you have to "rob Peter to pay Paul " ours is the attacking side of our midfield area . Obviously the coaches are aware of this problem area which would suggest that they are powerless in changing things at the moment .

Do you think that will be the statistically accurate view of Morton supporters in general, or just your view as current spokesman on the thread? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 11:34:27
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 11:17 AM) [snapback]497761[/snapback]
It would indicate the opinions of the posters here who bothered posting - nothing more! tongue.gif

I think you may have been correct all along. There is no shadow of doubt that the majority of fans has total confidence in the current incumbent at Cappielow.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 11:57:41
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 11:23 AM) [snapback]497767[/snapback]
It's his opinion, which he is perfectly entitled to, and he has not purported to represent it as anything else.

Unlike some! wink.gif

OH REALLY! Maybe somebody just mentioned it and he was parroting!

He did use the words 'would suggest'-suggest to whom-himself, his cat, the majority of Morton supporters? unsure.gif

You assumed it to be his opinion. I would have assumed the same.

Why, then, did you go to inordinate lengths to deliberately twist my statement, simply because I omitted to specifically define my opinion as such?

I though Jag bashing was a dying sport! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 12:10:39
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 11:49 AM) [snapback]497773[/snapback]
I think you'll find that I never suggested this to be the case - I only queried your claim to have the support of the majority. You may or may not be right, but to present it as fact when it was only your opinion.......



You interpreted my statement to suit yourself.

Only when you include 'IMO' in every single statement of your own opinion, will you be entitled to occupy your ivory tower.

There IS no shadow of doubt that the majority of posters on this thread saw no need to question my statement of opinion. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 12:22:51
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 12:09 PM) [snapback]497782[/snapback]
Oh, get over yourself!

You made a claim which you couldn't back up, then went to "inordinate lengths" to avoid having to retract it.

Then you suggested that I made statements that I hadn't.

And then you suggest I twisted YOUR statements! laugh.gif

And as for "Jag Bashing" - rather ego-centric wouldn't you say?

But you're right - sport is sport after all. happy.gif

....and you too Sir, have just 'made a claim'. Nowhere do I see any indication that that claim is merely your opinion of what I intended, when according to you, 'I made a claim'.

Nowhere did you say anything to the effect of 'MJ-you appear to have made a claim, though it may just be opinion'. You CHOSE to spin things your way-FACT.

Your final comment is ridiculous as you well know-Jag bashing is one of the commonest sports on this wee massage board. That, by the way, is a FACT too! laugh.gif

mortonjag 2008-08-20 12:25:50
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 20 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]497777[/snapback]
I bet they are. You probably have quite a few things that other girls don't have....like a set of baws... rolleyes.gif

laugh.gif

I'm sure 'a pair of testicles' would have gone down better!
mortonjag 2008-08-20 12:32:50
QUOTE(Julie-Anne @ Aug 20 2008, 11:36 AM) [snapback]497771[/snapback]
Hi Folks,

My car's warranty is up on 12th September....I have an appointment with Arnold to get my car MOT'd on this date. However I am confused blink.gif

Should I get my car in for a service before this date so that if anything is needing done it will be covered by the soon to expire warranty? This sounds like a good idea because I could do without the shock of having a huge bill after my MOT which wont be covered by warranty!

OR-Can I get my car MOT'd before the warranty expires and this problem would be solved?!

rolleyes.gif Typical wummin eh? rolleyes.gif

Julz
x

Make an appointment for an MOT with a reliable independent local garage. If they find any 'fail' problems which would come under warranty, you can still get Sir Arnold to fix them, and then go back for a pass. It'll cost you a wee bit extra, but Clark will just rip you off if he can.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 12:37:30
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 20 2008, 12:16 PM) [snapback]497785[/snapback]
What has really begun to surprise me in recent months is how immune we all seem to be to this type of stuff now. It's not acceptable, and it's time to take back the streets. There's a well documented Irish case of Whacker Humphries - who formed the Concerned Parents Action group in Inner Dublin and took the fight to the dealers with the backing of the (now not silent) majority of decent people - at which point the criminals complained about his activities and he was locked up !!!!! As Christy Moore sang in the song of the same name,

"I was sitting in the gallery with families, friends and wives
I strained to hear who told the truth and who was telling lies,
Dealers, junkies and police on the prosecution side
I swear to God that's what I saw before me very eyes

Whacker Humphries took the dealers on and fought them tooth and nail
Then a dozen well armed soldiers took him to the Portlaoise jail
Tried to protect his children, found guilty of a crime,
One man gets a pension, while anothers doing time"

We need direct action to rid the communities of this type of anti-social activity - and that is not aimed at Scotland or Greenock alone, it needs to happen anywhere we have become acclimatised to knifings, murders, beatings and robberies of the weak and innocent as somehow "just the way it is".

The majority of people ARE decent. The majority of people DO want a safe community.

But it ain't going to be delivered in the absence of the community policing itself in a pro-active way. In my opinion.

Thoughts ?

TonInDublin

A great idea in theory-could it really work in the current PC conscious Social Worker infested society.

I still believe birching would soon stop the problem.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 12:50:06
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 12:39 PM) [snapback]497792[/snapback]
Here'e what you claimed; "There is absolutely no shadow of doubt that the majority of fans now feel we are stagnating under the Raes."

Ta-Dah!

And as for "Jag-Bashing" - you reap what you sow! biggrin.gif

(and I have a horrible feeling that'll come back and haunt me! laugh.gif )

laugh.gif laugh.gif

That was what I opined. There are countless similar statements of opinion made on the massage board every day, which are accepted as such without the need for specific qualification to that effect.

You appear to be claiming that I was making a 'claim' when that is not correct, and you appear to be so doing with faltering conviction! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 13:04:04
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 12:42 PM) [snapback]497797[/snapback]
"There is absolutely no shadow of doubt that the majority of fans now feel we are stagnating under the Raes."

"statement of opinion"?

only those who could be bothered posting posted though laugh.gif

There was NO mention of posters Trumpton. Do you think this massage board is my only source? Last night I had yet another p.m. from a disenchanted poster, who felt messed about when attempting to purchase shares.

There IS absolutely no shadow of doubt that the majority of fans now feel we are stagnating under the Raes.

Where do you imagine the shadow of doubt might be with reference to that sentence-up a gum tree-under the kitchen sink, in Mortonjag's mind?

Ad nauseam perhaps-YOU interpreted that to suit yourself! dry.gif

There is absolutely no shadow of doubt *(in my mind) that you are being obtuse!



* inserted for the benefit of the obtuse.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 13:09:37
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 12:50 PM) [snapback]497804[/snapback]
As a matter of interest, does anybody know how Jamie's getting on?

I've been looking at the player ratings in the papers (for what they're worth) and he seems to be getting 6s & 7s.

Right leg first I'd suggest. The left is for standing on.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 13:15:35
QUOTE(Julie-Anne @ Aug 20 2008, 12:40 PM) [snapback]497793[/snapback]
You mean do this before my warranty expires?

Yes-there's no reason why an independent mechanic couldn't pass the MOT and issue a certificate even if he also found defects which need repaired under warranty but didn't affect road worthiness. Your new MOT certificate can be issued before the old one expires. It is totally independent of any warranty.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 13:30:36 All is explained Trumpton-you simply canny read plain English. Here IS what I said-copied and pasted, and please DO go back and check!!!




There is absolutely no shadow of doubt that the majority of fans now feel we are stagnating under the Raes.



This post has been edited by mortonjag: Yesterday, 07:57 AM
mortonjag 2008-08-20 13:33:52
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 01:23 PM) [snapback]497832[/snapback]
Possibly.

You think an extended run in the centre would have produced better performances?

He was definitely mucked about, but I wonder if he has the personality to succeed at this level - his head seems (to me) to go down if things don't go his way early on.

Definitely and without a shadow of doubt?
mortonjag 2008-08-20 13:39:43
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Aug 20 2008, 01:33 PM) [snapback]497839[/snapback]
Not necessarily true. Investors who save/fund clubs are not all hardcore. For example Tom Farmer certainly is not a hardcore Hibs fan, but if it wasn't for him or investors/stakeholders like him Hibs would be under/struggling badly.

Investors who save/fund clubs are such a rarity as to be statistically insignificant for the purpose of this discussion.


IMO

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mortonjag 2008-08-20 13:42:40
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 20 2008, 01:34 PM) [snapback]497841[/snapback]
Of course it would, and it seems yet another case of a player coming to Morton and being wasted. Jamie had a big reputation as an attacking midfielder at Alloa, and indeed Mallorca by all accounts, yet comes to Cappielow and instantly becomes a right mid. I'm sure it makes perfect sense to somewhere, but I'll be buggered if I'll ever comprehend that one. Likewise, Andy McLaren, Scotland international winger, comes to Morton and does serious damage at first, and then....suddenly becomes a centre-forward. Too many players seem to get shunted about at Cappielow, I wish we would start just signing players for positions, rather than just signing whoever is about and flinging them in anywhere.

I agree, and JM's legacy lives on in the shape of Superkev and Jimbo.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 13:55:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 20 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]497858[/snapback]
So, how many more shareholders did not receive the required notice ?

Why was the meeting so rushed ?

As the issue is open for 5 years, why choose a date when directors, major shareholders or their representatives had prior engagements ?

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The unanswered questions continue to pile up.

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Why don't you e-mail the club Newt?
mortonjag 2008-08-20 14:00:40
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 20 2008, 01:46 PM) [snapback]497854[/snapback]
A tautology, sir.

Try to do better.

sad.gif sad.gif


You read it out of context Newt!!!
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Aug 20 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]497856[/snapback]
Not at all. Is our very own much taunted new director/potential owner not a Rangers man! Likewise, I openly admit I maybe wrong here though....was our owner John Wilson not also a Rangers man.

There are many guardian angels in football who do not have the same hands on approach and dedication as Mr Rae.

The debate is about what the majority of fans think, and whether or not this forum is representative of them. In that respect one offs like those you describe are irrelevant to the discussion.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 14:05:11
QUOTE(Muz @ Aug 20 2008, 01:51 PM) [snapback]497859[/snapback]
Agreed.

Jamie Stevenson has baws the size of a moose anytime I've seen him play for Morton. No heart, no fight, and THAT'S why he's away back to Alloa.

Plenty of skill-no baws. He also came across as one of these players that think they are better than they are- plenty of them about.

JEEEEEZUZ-no wonder he could never finish a game!

mortonjag 2008-08-20 14:10:46
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 20 2008, 02:01 PM) [snapback]497864[/snapback]
We all need to ask the right questions of Mr Rae at the next fan's forum, and ensure we are not sidestepped, I think. You ask in public, get a response that answers that question, it makes things clearer for everyone. Something I am not sure people get reading the minutes from the last few Q&A sessions. I'm going to e-mail the Greenock Telegraph letters ed summing up most of the points from that earlier post before I head to Hampden tonight.

Toby, I should say that I've only disagreed with you on a few things, remember that. I'll probably agree with you on far more things than we have disagreed on in future! Its not a given that I'm going to take exception to everything you say. smile.gif I agreed that McInally should have left for example, just not the way you went about forcing your opinions on him.

I also apologised for saying you looked miserable in Prague, check it out, even admitting I have a dour face at the best of times! Also for saying that it looked like supporting Morton/Scotland ate you alive. You were annoyed about missing one Morton game in a near decade long period for a trip to see Scotland and said you were going to miss a friend's wedding for a pre-season friendly match. I said that given the important things in life, friends etc, it was maybe a bit extreme and missing a few games, was worth the sacrifice. I didn't lay into you. I was entitled to disagree and the guy I stand with at the games, as much of a diehard as me, passionate, can miss the odd game too. I respected your views at the time despite giving an opposing view. Instead of moaning about how we've disagreed on certain things, I ask you respect mine, even if you don't necessarily agree.

Rae will never answer a question unless he wants to.

Power to your elbow with the Tilly. I take it you'll be making it clear that the fans have loads of unanswered questions. Not trying to steal any of your thunder, but I'd like to know what the score is with Alistair Donald.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 14:15:47
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 20 2008, 02:10 PM) [snapback]497871[/snapback]
For someone who isn't even real, she's got your number MJ. laugh.gif
God, you really, really want her (him) to be real don't you? wub.gif

Very funny McArthur-I'm not going to be offended by a child.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 17:11:46
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 20 2008, 02:37 PM) [snapback]497899[/snapback]
For what? You dissed my wheels man. That kind of talk could get a man killed in the hood I live in.
Is it her, sorry "her" or me that's the child? If I wasn't so convinced that you were Douglas Rae I'd have you down as "Zoe".
Mortonbug and "Zoe" sitting in a tree...... wub.gif You'd be a sucker for on-line dating (not that I have any experience there). Getting all blushy when a fat, smelly Portugese bloke convinces you he's a 17 year-old beach volleyball playing chick.

ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 17:17:42
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 03:11 PM) [snapback]497919[/snapback]
"Definitely and without a shadow of doubt?"

imho biggrin.gif

getting to you MJ?
edited cos I mis-quoted blush.gif

'Twas a little-suffering fools gladly has never been my forte! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 17:35:32
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Aug 20 2008, 02:13 PM) [snapback]497875[/snapback]
I cant be bothered reading this all... probably way off topic by now anyway.. but to me it seems clear how to proceed.

the fans need a spokeman who can deliver questions/concerns to the board about any club related subject

There is no point in asking questions for them to be ignored.

QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Aug 20 2008, 02:32 PM) [snapback]497893[/snapback]
GMST anyone?

Nope-the Trust has freely admitted it has no clout at Board level-a bit like a footballer admitting he's got no feet.

QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 20 2008, 02:33 PM) [snapback]497895[/snapback]
I want to be succinct so the editor doesn't take bits out MJ, I'll cut out my usual padding before I send! Watch the letters page the next few days I hope!

I'm crossing my fingers. I'm afraid they may 'phone Cappielow for permission to print it, and be told everybody's 'out of the country'.



QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 20 2008, 02:54 PM) [snapback]497909[/snapback]
Good post. I'm pretty sure I wrote similar on the thread about the Irn-Bru promotion when some folk were complaining about it for some reason. Morton are doing bugger all to enamour themselves to existing fans, never mind new ones

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QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 03:09 PM) [snapback]497917[/snapback]
You're floundering, Sir!

Changing the colour and font size doesn't make your claim more right or wrong than the first time you made it.

I HAVE checked, and I've faithfully copied & pasted your comments. You can be abolutely certain that you are quoted correctly in my previous posts.

And that statement was the basis of my question - How do you know what the majority of fans feel?

You still have no basis for that statement other than your off-the-cuff assessment of posts on a messageboard!

And off we go again. rolleyes.gif

You have edited my post it would appear. That is VERY naughty.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 17:45:39
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 20 2008, 02:50 PM) [snapback]497905[/snapback]
You're stalking me? unsure.gif

You're after my body? wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif

Boozehound has not been chosen as mortonjag's POUFFE of the month for nothing-his passion for leather is surpassed only by the thickness of his tadger. Do you really want it Dr Bam-can you handle it-this is serious stuff we're talking!
mortonjag 2008-08-20 18:04:03
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 20 2008, 01:46 PM) [snapback]497855[/snapback]
I'd hardly call people anoraks for that. You know something bad has happened when the police chopper is out. Costs a lot of money every time they put the thing up there, taxpayers money!

Indeed, the Chief Constable's late for his dinner.

QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Aug 20 2008, 02:54 PM) [snapback]497908[/snapback]
All these professions are doing the job they are paid to do, but they also fight to do as little as possible for as much cash as they can......doctors for example have seen salary increases of huge proportions due to there strong bargaining.

Not how I see things at all.

QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 20 2008, 03:40 PM) [snapback]497939[/snapback]
Statisitcs show that nationally at least you're wrong, 'non-sexual crimes of violence' have fallen slightly from a peak of 16,000 in 2002/3 to 14,000 in 2006/7.

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2008/03/06120248/7

You meant 'statistics have been produced which appear to show'-anyway-what is it to you sitting safe and smug in your country mansion?



QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 20 2008, 04:32 PM) [snapback]497964[/snapback]
I love the way your argument is so eloquently put. laugh.gif

Watch it-Mortonjag is chief patroniser-fing may soon be off on a European tour if you don't clip your lip.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 18:10:54
QUOTE(Russells Muscles @ Aug 20 2008, 04:41 PM) [snapback]497968[/snapback]
MortonJag wink.gif

Cappielow insiders are not welcome on this forum-you were warned before-now F*CK OFF before the Mods identify you.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 18:25:24 ..sorry-CHATEAU.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 18:31:24
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 20 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]498013[/snapback]
Cet homme Charmant has saved me a lot of time I see.

I blame Airdrie United. rolleyes.gif

First time I've ever been grateful to Trois Maisons'Chateau et deux maisons'. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 18:37:05
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 20 2008, 05:17 PM) [snapback]497980[/snapback]
Hey, you got off lightly. I accused MJ of being Douglas Rae and laughed at Mortonbug for his love of a ficticious "girl". And it's Mr. McArthur to you young man.

............and it's Dr MJ to you McArthur!
mortonjag 2008-08-20 18:49:09
QUOTE(big blue eyes @ Aug 20 2008, 06:46 PM) [snapback]498024[/snapback]
I didn't mean to be rude-I've had three separate personal messages and I don't want to send out the wrong signals by replying. It WAS very sweet of you.
I might be a child to you Grandad but to real men I'm all the woman I'll ever be.

You seem quite full of yourself!
mortonjag 2008-08-20 18:52:38 Early days yet-it may prove to be 'a' class and nae knickers' like the last one.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 19:02:27
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 20 2008, 06:53 PM) [snapback]498033[/snapback]
No, we definitely have more people behind bars than ever before.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6968268.stm

Indeed, alcohol is the scourge of the nation, and a major cause of crime.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 19:14:51
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 20 2008, 07:05 PM) [snapback]498046[/snapback]
Or two 25 year olds. wub.gif

Never really fancied threesomes-well not with girls.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 19:17:17
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 20 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]498048[/snapback]
Pooves. rolleyes.gif

They are gay asses. I suspect Donkey Dave to be a



POOVE
mortonjag 2008-08-20 19:25:17
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 20 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]498043[/snapback]
Alert! Incoming

SPANK THE PINK LITTLE BOTTIES!

TAN THEIR HIDES


QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 20 2008, 07:13 PM) [snapback]498051[/snapback]
Ive been consistent and 100% serious with my views on the birch, it should be used as a deterrent to young offenders.

BIRCH THE B*STARDS


QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 20 2008, 07:16 PM) [snapback]498055[/snapback]
So you're going to be soft on knife offenders aged 22 and over?
How many lives have to be lost before this 100% effective deterrent mechanism is extended to each and every knife wielding mania. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
You sir, are nothing less than a lentil-eater and your Guardianista views have led this once great and proud country into the abyss. mad.gif mad.gif
We need tough people to make tough decisions if we're to "reclaim our streets" - birch people for breathing I tells ya, BIRCH THEM GOOD!

FLOG THE F*CKERS
mortonjag 2008-08-20 20:15:33
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Aug 20 2008, 07:32 PM) [snapback]498073[/snapback]
must admit i'm a bit 2 sided when it comes to the police... my head tells me they are stretched to the limits and beyond, but my heart tells me they just dont put the effort required in, and could do more to change the beurocracy and red tape etc that they say, stops them doing the job more effectively, they have a 15minute response time to a call you place to them.. i.e they should call you back within 15minutes of you making a call to inform you when an officer will arrive if they havent already arrived ?? or so i'km told (by the policeman who couldnt help me.. cause of the rights of the neds !)

Birch the polis too-birch EVERYBODY!
mortonjag 2008-08-20 20:19:56
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 20 2008, 07:52 PM) [snapback]498087[/snapback]
Jon Newby.

IS A POUFFE?
mortonjag 2008-08-20 20:24:26
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 18 2008, 07:57 PM) [snapback]496994[/snapback]
I will be keeping the appointment.



It it tonight you're getting your hole?
mortonjag 2008-08-20 20:27:20
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 20 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]498083[/snapback]
Sorry you've just lost all credibility as a sensible car owner by letting slip that your car is named after an old lady.

Elizabeth Piehole-so that's your mother's name Prof!
mortonjag 2008-08-20 20:40:37
QUOTE(big blue eyes @ Aug 20 2008, 08:35 PM) [snapback]498116[/snapback]
You are quite vile. All you ever seem to talk about is your beloved poofs. Takes one to know one they say-you're probably crawling with HIV and stuff. dry.gif

I'll have you know I have three children of my own, INCLUDING a daughter with a Masters in your beloved psychology AND from a proper University. That's if you're not some hairy arsed sicko wanking off at the keyboard. Spurtle's been posted missing for ages come to think of it! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 21:01:21
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 20 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]498121[/snapback]
Still a week away, so a bit of time to limber up blush.gif

Oh dear, just thinking about it there has caused me to get rather over excited, back in two mins.

smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 21:06:38
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 20 2008, 08:21 PM) [snapback]498104[/snapback]
So 26 have voted for 'Looks good but needs more content' and only the above poster has actually suggested something that ain't on it with MidTONs confirming what he's looking for in a virtual tour.

How do the fans expect GMFC to deliver a website that satisfies folk when they can't even be constructive in their criticism happy.gif

I didn't vote!

I'd like to see regular contributions from all the back room boys from the Groundsman right down to the Chairman.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 21:09:20
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 20 2008, 08:59 PM) [snapback]498128[/snapback]
You do know that talking to yourself is a sign of madness Dr Mortonjag, Douglas, Zoe or whatever your name really is.

Thank you Mr McArthur! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 21:22:49
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 20 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]498139[/snapback]
It's quite simple, just click the cursor beside your selection and then hit the Vote button blink.gif

Do you think opinions on this rag are in any way representative of true Morton fans?
mortonjag 2008-08-20 21:26:24
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 20 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]498140[/snapback]
Don't know about a newspaper but if I was to be named after a shop it would be 'What Every Woman Wants'. blush.gif

They went bust years ago! laugh.gif

I'd say you are the TES!
mortonjag 2008-08-20 21:42:36
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 09:24 PM) [snapback]498147[/snapback]
No - I have taken extracts from it and used them in context to remind you of what you actually wrote (you seem to forget sometimes!). That's an acceptable tool to most people - it saves having to read your posts twice - once is more than enough!.

IMHO of course.

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 21:45:07
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 09:33 PM) [snapback]498151[/snapback]
"true Morton fans" blink.gif

Come on MJ, stop twisting words - you're better than that!

Sorry dear-should that have been 'REAL' Morton fans?

QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 20 2008, 09:35 PM) [snapback]498153[/snapback]
laugh.gif
I read the reference to that on the other thread in work and was PMSL but couldn't post.

smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 21:52:43
QUOTE(Tractorton @ Aug 20 2008, 09:26 PM) [snapback]498149[/snapback]
That time of year again.

Switched to More Than, with the best offer as you do. Admiral renewal quoted more than last year, but noted the small print, which said you had to call and confirm you were not renewing to ensure they do not debit your account. Bearing in mind they wrongly took additional monies from my account last year after they wrongly accused me of lying on my application, I was wary and rang the call centre:

AD: Can I take your peronal details?
ME: Blah, Blah, Blah
AD: Why are you not renewing?
ME: Guess?
AD: Price?
ME: Got it one!
AD: How much have you been quoted?
ME: Why do you want to know?
AD: Perhaps we could match it.
ME: Match it! Your sales pitch needs work. You should be offering to beat it. Anyhow, I have already paid new insurance.
AD: How much did you pay?
ME: Why do you want know (again)!? You upped my premium even though the car is one year older, me and the wife are a year older etc, etc, etc.

AD: Can you give me a contact number?
ME: Why do you want that?
AD: To keep our records up to date and in case we need to contact you.
ME: My policy runs out in a couple of days, I'm not giving it to you.

AD: Can you please return your renewal quote signed and marked rejected.
ME: Why do you want that?
AD: We need to shred it for legal reasons.
ME: I haven't kept it. I threw it away as I wasn't renewing.
AD: Oh dear. You will need to write to us confirming you're not renewing.
ME: I'm not writing to you, it's the reason I'm calling!
AD: You can email us.
ME: Why? You said you were going to shred it!
AD: We have to see it shredded.
ME: Tough. All I want to know is that you're not going to debit my account....again!
AD: I've put a halt on the system.
ME: Can I take your name or reference number in case I need to call back?
AD: My name is Claire.
ME: Claire what?
AD: Sorry I cannot give anymore details.
ME: So if i have a problem, I have to phone Admiral and just ask for Claire?
AD: Yes.

If you're exhausted reading this, imagine what the phone call was like.

Rant over!

They are all the same!

I've been with MORE TH>N for two years. I got a much better quote from esure, but thought MORE TH>N would try to keep my business. After going round in endless circles I eventually got a semi-intelligent woman who explained that the most they will ever reduce their renewal premium by is £40-which was way short of esure!! Why not say that in the first place! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 21:58:03
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 09:49 PM) [snapback]498158[/snapback]
The secret of happiness is to be comfortable in your own company. tongue.gif

Try prozac.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 21:59:21
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 09:50 PM) [snapback]498159[/snapback]
I'd live with "the majority of Morton Fans"
happy.gif

I prefer Glasgow.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 22:02:38
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 10:00 PM) [snapback]498168[/snapback]
feel free to stay there then tongue.gif

I do-it's very convenient for home and away games, though I doubt if the majority of Ton fans would agree! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 22:06:34
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Aug 20 2008, 09:56 PM) [snapback]498164[/snapback]
Listen Shipman (your just as arrogant) get off your high an mighty horse for a moment. Not everybody is taking sides in this discussion. It appears that if you don't agree with your point of view then we must be in agreement with DDFR and we are all hell bent in defending him. Is it possible that there are people on this message board of independent mind who neither agree with you or see DDFR as some sort of ogre. I'll defend DDFR for all his faults because without him I would be kicking my heels every Saturday afternoon.
Doesn't mean to say I agree with everything he does and says or the way the club is being run, but until somebody better comes along and buys the club then were stuck with him. Better the devil you know.

Isn't that him calling you for 'walkies'. Off you trot Measles-there's a good boy! rip.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 22:10:48
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 09:59 PM) [snapback]498166[/snapback]
laugh.gif

The Monkey is tired and I have been summoned to bed!

See if you can get little Measles involved in a good heated discussion-he's foaming at the mouth already!

Goodnight. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-21 07:23:26
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 10:20 PM) [snapback]498177[/snapback]
Hmm.

Much as I agree with a lot of what you wrote, perhaps he found the term "Shipman" a little offensive?

cut him, does he not bleed? laugh.gif

blush.gif

Why should I be offended by a jar of meat paste, Trumpton?

Measles offends me because he typifies a dying breed on our wee massage board.

It's finally penetrated the thick skulls of even the die hard sycophants that it's not the done thing to openly support our Chairman any more. They now adopt the 'Measles' technique which always has this rough shape.

1/ Firstly let me make it clear that I don't approve of EVERYTHING that Mr. Rae does. That's the clever bit-or so they think-imagining they will thus gain credibility for open mindedness-don't be fooled! wink.gif


2/ I will defend Mr Rae to the bitter end against criticism from others because, irrespective of his faults (never specified, mind!!!) he saved the Club from extinction. angel.gif

3/ Better the devil you know! rolleyes.gif



Those people clearly RESENT ALL criticism of Fr Rae. Their numbers are tiny compared to the cacophony who railed at mortonjag and a few others a couple of years ago. How is this explained?

I have my own theories, which include the possibility that some are Rae 'plants' on our forum.

Before anyone accuses me of fantasy or paranoia, the contribution to the Alistair Donald thread of my old friend Mabawsa (one of Mr Rae's employees) is there for all to see, and ranks with time honoured productions like the 'Beano'!

Donkey Dave openly hoofs the party line in defence of his master, even though he's perhaps a less viperous ass than the aforesaid.

There are probably several more!

Hugh's Cot was MUCH more clumsy in his attempts to muffle legitimate debate and criticism.

I wonder who Measles really is! dry.gif



mortonjag 2008-08-21 07:41:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 21 2008, 01:27 AM) [snapback]498221[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

How would they know how many shareholders did not receive the notice of the EGM ?

Was jpmil the exception or the rule ?

Would I better off asking the Royal Mail ?

Since the Trust cannot get answers from Cappielow or Mr Donald, why would I be more successful ?

huh.gif



Perhaps the Trust does know all the answers Newt. Perhaps Mr Donald replied to their mysterious letter by return of post, and they are just getting round to reading it. I'm sure they had the wit to send it 'Recorded delivery'.

There again:


Alistair Anderson Donald,
Purported Director-Morton F.C.
Out of the Country


would present problems for the most fastidious postie.


Somebody knows the answers.

I wonder who he could be! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-21 07:48:30
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 21 2008, 07:42 AM) [snapback]498237[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

Why would Sugar Rae care about debate or criticism, legitimate or otherwise ?

Cappielow has been his bailiwick for 7 years and will continue to be so for the forseeable future.



A good question Newt, and possibly one for our many putative forum psychologists.

In animal terms I'd describe it as a 'leader of the pack' response to eager young males. Challenges of any kind-real or imagined- must be countered vigorously in order to preserve total power. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-21 07:57:22
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 21 2008, 12:17 AM) [snapback]498208[/snapback]
Lies, damned lies and statistics. Come back to the West Central Scotland CHC and witness for yourself. Society's been on a downward spiral for some time now.
Edit to add: Please allow me to contradict myself regarding my distrust of statistics. There's a set recently published that 'proves' Scotland to be the most violent country in the civilised western world. Being an empiricist at heart, I'm inclined to believe it.

It would be easy to produce statistics to 'prove' that statistics are quite unreliable.

Our little 'Deux maisons et un Chateau' may disagree.

He often disagrees!

I have statistics to prove that.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 08:01:43
QUOTE(marx @ Aug 21 2008, 02:04 AM) [snapback]498223[/snapback]
Dingus keep your rumours to yourself please. Claire indeed split with her second husband Brian after a 2 year marriage however she didn't hit the bottle and that accusation is slanderous my friend. One or two (or six) glasses of red a day doesn't make her an alcoholic.

Just for your info she has made up with Brian after the split as both found that their casual sex with others is hollow compared to what they had.
I urge you to hold respect for Claire in future.



Claire is well known as a gin sodden trollop who's got that old Admiral in a sexual half Nelson.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 08:15:38 OYEZ, OYEZ


TONIGHT 'NOTE' CAFE BAR KING STREET GLASGOW



THE ONE AND ONLY




MOUSE EAT MOUSE




Please come early-admission's a paltry £4, and be sure to


BRING A FRIEND



Hopefully that will muffle McArthur!
mortonjag 2008-08-21 08:46:21 Scottish plain bread-two outsiders. Toast under grill till golden brown and slightly charred at edges. Plaster on Lurpak or similar, forcing into the body of the toast with tea knife.

That's toast.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 09:12:48
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 21 2008, 08:40 AM) [snapback]498245[/snapback]
My goodness - get out the wrong side of bed again?

I genuinely do take your point that we've moved on from the days of gratitude and relief, and you're right that we had to.

DDFR SHOULD be judged on where we are now, and where we're going next. The problem, I suspect, may be that there will be disagreement as to where we really want to go next.

Do we REALLY want to be an SPL club, or are we content to be a "near-miss" first division club. I think thats the real point of contention.

I wonder, too, if you give him a little too mcuh credit in the deviousness stakes, and yourself a little too much credit as a thorn in his side (or a pain in his arse smile.gif )

Do you really think that you rank so high up his agenda that he spends his time endeavouring to discredit you by such elaborate means?

You claimed that I got out of the wrong side of the bed, while agreeing with the points I made Trumpton. laugh.gif laugh.gif

With regard to the highlighted text, all I can suggest is that you 'wonder' on.

Perhaps Mr Rae is blissfully unaware of the behaviour of the Mabawsas and Donkey Daves of this world, though I have it on excellent authority that that is far from the case.

I doubt if he knows or cares much about individual posters, but there is NOT A SHADOW OF DOUBT IN MY MIND that he has taken steps to be made aware of 'what's being said', if not by whom.

I have gone to inordinate lengths to make that sentence as clear and unambiguous as I can, and have underlined the words 'In my mind'.

All of that was done just for you! wub.gif



mortonjag 2008-08-21 09:30:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 21 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]498258[/snapback]
Ok then, use this.

Alistair Donald
Accenture Hr Services Inc
Canon s Court 22 Victoria Street
Hamilton 12

smile.gif

laugh.gif

I have two more of the ubiquitous Mr Donald's addresses Puggs. He certainly seems to get around. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-21 09:36:04
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 21 2008, 08:49 AM) [snapback]498248[/snapback]
Why thank you Dr MJ.

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mortonjag 2008-08-21 09:42:54
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 21 2008, 08:59 AM) [snapback]498251[/snapback]
Aye, never mind all that. Any updates on helicopters?

Where birching fails,


AMPUTATE THEIR CHOPPERS



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mortonjag 2008-08-21 09:47:17
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Aug 21 2008, 07:03 AM) [snapback]498229[/snapback]
If you're only going to "take" a couple of minutes, mate, you'll probably want to go and get some viagara....quickly. wink.gif

Tricky boy-point of information!

Slight difference between a quick J.Arthur and a shagathon!
mortonjag 2008-08-21 10:19:38
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 21 2008, 09:52 AM) [snapback]498271[/snapback]
shucks blush.gif

just for the hell of it:

I said "get out the wrong side of bed again?"

because you said "Why should I be offended by a jar of meat paste, Trumpton?", "thick skulls of even the die hard sycophants", "muffle legitimate debate and criticism" and some other wee digs.

I, perhaps mistakenly, interpreted these as an indication of a little irritability.

My apologies for my error. biggrin.gif

You were mistaken Donald!
mortonjag 2008-08-21 10:22:51
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Aug 21 2008, 09:59 AM) [snapback]498273[/snapback]
B I R C H

T H E

J A G

You are a patient man-it's well seen you work with intricate wee coloured wires! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-21 10:30:30
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 21 2008, 10:21 AM) [snapback]498280[/snapback]
Had a dream last night that I was out with a bunch, and we were wondering were someone else was.

So in the dream I decide to text him to find out.

Woke up about 5 minutes later still in a bit of a daze so check my phone and realise that I actually did, while asleep, send the text to the person in question.

That just boggles my mind!!!!!

Anyone else ever done it?

I write almost all my pieces on this massage board while asleep. I leave the monkey to do all the editing.

I once knew a man who could serenade his wife with 'Amazing Grace' on his bagpipes while sound asleep and snoring loudly in unison.

I once took out a patients appendix while asleep.

I frequently drive to matches while asleep.

There must be hunners of things I've done while asleep.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 10:36:57
QUOTE(Russells Muscles @ Aug 21 2008, 10:30 AM) [snapback]498285[/snapback]
The mods know who I am - bet you wish you did! laugh.gif

I do know WHAT you are. You are the low life who published my private details obtained from Club data. The Mods claimed at the time that they could 'not pin you down', and deleted the posts.

That sort of behaviour deserves a lifetime ban. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-21 11:06:10
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 21 2008, 10:57 AM) [snapback]498299[/snapback]
Highest setting on our toaster (doesn't cremate the thing...just a ver nice golden)

As soon as it pops, grab the first slice and quickly put the toaster on again with the remainder bit.

Quickly butter the first one so it melts right away. Then get the other bit out - which will have remained hot as the toaster is still on - and do the same.

I never put mounds of butter on, just a light scrape does the trick.

Very wise-I bet you have a sylph like figure.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 11:29:55
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Aug 21 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]498278[/snapback]
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If find myself in agreement with your mind Doc. ohmy.gif

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QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 21 2008, 11:10 AM) [snapback]498307[/snapback]
Again, my apologies Douglas!

My pleasure Donald.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 11:36:40
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 21 2008, 11:10 AM) [snapback]498308[/snapback]
LL, you didn't answer my question.

In the example I gave you yesterday of the two extremes of murder, would you really give the same 'life meaning life' punishment to the domestically abused wife as you would to the psychopathic nutjob?

She would probably have had enough already I'd imagine.

I agree with your comments about 'life meaning life'.

Hanging was a deterrent.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 11:40:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 21 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]498321[/snapback]
Pfft....thought it was quite a clever play on what you wrote, and you know it wink.gif

That's your problem!
mortonjag 2008-08-21 11:42:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 21 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]498318[/snapback]
Douglas ?

Donald ?

Duck ?

Dick ?



Has Donald ducked Douglas's dick?
mortonjag 2008-08-21 12:15:06
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 21 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]498311[/snapback]
I do....it's under the rest somewhere!

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mortonjag 2008-08-21 12:16:49
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 21 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]498312[/snapback]
Maybe see you there tonight Dr MJ?

'Twas seriously contemplated Sir, but I gave in to 'pressure'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-21 12:26:11
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 21 2008, 12:11 PM) [snapback]498347[/snapback]
Nah, either Donga or Midtons pointed you out once. The jacket IS cool though.
I'm printing that off and putting it on business cards.

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mortonjag 2008-08-21 12:34:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 21 2008, 11:46 AM) [snapback]498326[/snapback]
Or has he just flown the coop ?

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I'd imagine he's more of a Sainsbury's wallah.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 12:47:31
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Aug 21 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]498358[/snapback]
Look Shipman, I rest my case, there you go again

"Those people clearly RESENT ALL criticism of Fr Rae. Their numbers are tiny compared to the cacophony who railed at mortonjag and a few others a couple of years ago. How is this explained"

I don't resent all criticism of DDFR...It's just your warped mind at work once more..its your "if your not for me your against me" attitude that's all wrong.
You'll be offering all us so called sycophants the easy way out next. Your friendly doctors jab in the arse to cure our ills.
Yes, the the parallels between you and the good Dr Shipman draw closer by the post. In fact did you not at one time post that you knew where all the bodies were buried, or words to that effect.

My friend did not have to hide the bodies, Measles,-he certified their deaths! laugh.gif

Don't lose sleep over this-if I did have any designs on your body, I'm friendly with a couple of Vets.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 13:05:31
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Aug 21 2008, 12:50 PM) [snapback]498367[/snapback]
fecking far too many of the wrong people and i dont mean innocent.

another day, another "suspicious" death a stones throw away!

suspicious death in govanhill

there have been a few good points on this thread. One thing that is missing more than ever is any fear of punishment. I know many of the local hoodlums in the south side of glasgow and the repeat offenders are getting away with it more often than not. This would come back to your point of the incorrect criminals behind bars....

Im all for getting tougher on repeat offenders, particuarly of violence. Similar to the 3 strike rule.
as an example...

1st offence, a street fight - a fine
2nd offence assault and breach - hefty fine and court order
3rd strike - for any violence, custodial sentance.. no question

if theres a deadly weapon involved - go straight to no 3.

To do this we would need to clear a few spaces in our prisons....

too many people doing time for unpaid fines and minor drugs convictions. clear space for the violent offenders.

Theres cases that i am aware of were people have committed 10 + offences, with a previous criminal record, including crimes with weapons ie. stanley knives and other knives. who are still walking around without getting a custodial sentance. Ultimately, they feel above the law. that needs to change.

I agree, and banging more and more of them up gets them off the streets-sure- but it costs a fortune and when they get back out they certainly ain't reformed!

I know it sounds barbaric, but it's not nearly as uncivilised as the scenario you've just described-where thugs rule, SO


BIRCH THEM. Simple, cheap, and let me assure you it will make them think twice before re-offending!
mortonjag 2008-08-21 13:39:09
QUOTE(ShimminTon @ Aug 21 2008, 12:58 PM) [snapback]498375[/snapback]
I know jpmil wink.gif and he only became a shareholder this year. smile.gif

There's a big difference between knowledge and belief. smile.gif

That's correct.

There's also a huge difference often between belief and truth! dry.gif

I refer, of course, to the topic in hand!
mortonjag 2008-08-21 13:44:37
QUOTE(Bryan @ Aug 21 2008, 12:18 PM) [snapback]498353[/snapback]
i do have a life outwith the internet you know biggrin.gif

laugh.gif ...if not outwith the country!

Serious question Bryan. I accept in good faith that a letter was sent by the Trust asking Mr. Donald to give some idea of his plans for the future.

Do you KNOW that the said letter was received in person by Mr Donald, and if so, why do you think he is choosing to ignore the Trust?
mortonjag 2008-08-21 13:53:13
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Aug 21 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]498390[/snapback]
added to the above.. theres some excellent work going on in polnont with the young offenders, they have a fantasic youth team in there. ALthough it is ultimately going to cost us money.. there has to be funding available for more programs in prisons to combat re offending. Ive been lucky *or unlucky, enough to be involved in some of the work and reguarly use some of the products, ie films that are made by offenders for youth programs aimed at yung uns at risk of ending up there...

More long time funding for youth projects, particular emphisis on street teams and tackling territorialism.... its rediculous that most organisations are supposed to budget their resources on funding that is given for either 1 year or 3 year maximum projects. Some organisations fund program by program as they go along. street work has a great success and is work that is undervalued and underestimated.
Prison for violent reoffenders.
Programmes of support inside.

Please don't be offended WiG but it sounds like you have a vested interest in rehabilitation. Well power to your elbow. Not all young offenders are evil psychos-indeed those MOST likely to benefit from rehab would probably only need ONE stroke of said birch!

What do you think?
mortonjag 2008-08-21 14:20:15
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Aug 21 2008, 02:11 PM) [snapback]498409[/snapback]
Gee, MJ, I didn't know that at all. Would never have guessed that.... rolleyes.gif

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Oh well let's give Willy Man the benefit of the doubt. If he should need Viagra, he knows where to come! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-21 16:32:55
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 21 2008, 02:45 PM) [snapback]498436[/snapback]
Ron Number probably is mortonjag.

Aye right Ronnie boy. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-21 16:49:37 It's a shame that we've got good guys on here arguing with each other about something which ultimately is academic.

Here's how I see it.

Fan hands money to turnstyle operator whom he perceives as part of the club.

Mr Rae puts said operator at the turnstyle to collect money for the club.

If the money is pocketed the culprit is guilty of deception of both parties and I'd suggest of misappropriation of the Club's funds.

I believe that's how a court would see it.

Either way it's up to the club to institute a system whereby it gains the maximum income possible from spectators at home matches.


mortonjag 2008-08-21 16:55:56
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Aug 21 2008, 02:22 PM) [snapback]498420[/snapback]
quickly

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mortonjag 2008-08-21 16:58:51
QUOTE(leyTON @ Aug 21 2008, 02:19 PM) [snapback]498415[/snapback]
iv revised it
MJ you are now the FT
as in everyone saying FT mortonjag
its too sunny for my coat...

POUFFE
POUFFE
POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-08-21 17:01:59
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 21 2008, 04:00 PM) [snapback]498475[/snapback]
From whom sir?

From her--she who must be allowed to believe she is obeyed! We apparently have a prior engagement though I wish they weren't coming! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-21 17:05:45
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 21 2008, 04:22 PM) [snapback]498480[/snapback]
But again, who can possibly have the right to decide who lives and who doesn't?

Politicians? Aye, right. Me? You? The same judges who currently hand out 2 week sentences and the like?

No-one has the power to hold the life of another person in their hands, no-one.

Tell that to a surgeon! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-21 17:47:36
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 21 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]498481[/snapback]
Mortonjag, send Ron Number a message and ask him to log in at the same time as you. These guys are insinuating that a man of your intellect and gravitas is adopting aliases on a silly wee internet messageboard! That can't be true can it? Prove them wrong yeah? rolleyes.gif

Edit: Not sure Mortonjag would be silly enough to make atliberty (sic) one word, my apologies MJ!

Mortonjag is guilty of many naughty things, but would never stoop to assuming an identity for the sole purpose of attempting to discredit/ridicule another poster's legitimate contributions to the forum. Mortonjag has mentioned this to the Moderators.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 17:57:04
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 21 2008, 05:10 PM) [snapback]498501[/snapback]
In that case they should bring back the wee guy who used to sell Mars Bars, chewing gum and cup drinks in the shed.

Agreed BH-there are countless ways in which the club could bring in more cash both on match days and otherwise!
mortonjag 2008-08-21 18:12:28
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 21 2008, 05:34 PM) [snapback]498509[/snapback]
I agree 100%, and after Miscarriages of Justice it's probably the most compelling argument against Capital Punishment.

I think you've got the wrong end of the stick though. This 'life meaning life' discussion is about anyone being sentenced to life imprisonment staying in prison for life and never being released on parole and is nowt to do with Capital punishment.

At least that's how I've understood it. huh.gif

If we can elect our government by popular vote, why don't we have more referenda on issues of crime and punishment.

I believe that would be the fairest way for the people to respond to secular change and the effectiveness of current policy. Politicians are SUPPOSED to represent us, but no sooner are they elected than they adopt whichever policy will best feather their own nests.

Crime and punishment has in many instances become a total joke, and more effective deterrence is constantly hampered by weak kneed wimps who identify with criminal rather than victim.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 18:28:57
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Aug 21 2008, 06:24 PM) [snapback]498529[/snapback]
What a tool!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

That is one of your more intelligent comments Anus.

I take it you are one of those said insiders. To quote-'They don't like getting it up them'.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 18:37:29
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 21 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]498528[/snapback]
Why don't you e-mail the club and list them - if you can give them 99 I'm sure they'll be dead impressed like.

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Fantastic idea GG-why did I not think of that before-I'll get right on to it! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-21 18:40:13
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 21 2008, 06:34 PM) [snapback]498532[/snapback]
Go away.

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mortonjag 2008-08-21 18:46:32 This thread is liable to stir up a lot of dual morality.

Northern Ireland regards that particular choon as its National Anthem.

Scots fans saw fit to boo.

I'd like to get rid of the monarchy, but I don't approve of booing any country's National Anthem at a 'friendly' football match.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 19:00:26
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 21 2008, 06:48 PM) [snapback]498540[/snapback]
How about Nazi Germany, 1938, in mythical hypothetical land?


I don't approve of fans booing any country's National Anthem at a 'friendly' football match.






[quote name='Barbarossa' date='Aug 21 2008, 06:50 PM' post='498541']
I agree but as I stated in the International Football forum many of their fans were disgusting last night.
Is this really the FA of a state who's supporters made a player quit or have the threat of death hang over his head.
f***ing insular, backward nutcases.

[/quote

That's the danger Barbie-arguing the general from the particular (tarring all with the same brush).

We can't possibly dictate political policy to every country we play in a football match. Are we going to boycott the next world cup just because there are two or three 'naughty' nations involved?

I don't really care too much about last night, and I'm no Royalist-I just think booing any country's National Anthem at a 'friendly' match is somewhat unfriendly! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-21 19:22:16
QUOTE(Doc @ Aug 21 2008, 06:51 PM) [snapback]498542[/snapback]
Morton has always been, and continue to be, a community club. Your attitude would have allowed Scott to close us down. What did you say then? "It's the clubs problem!"???? Wake the hell up, man. The fans have always, and will always, have a vested interest in supporting and preserving the existence of Morton FC. We are not simply consumers when we show up on a saturday afternoon and hand over our cash. We are contributing to a legacy that has existed since 1874 and which our fathers, and their fathers before, have supported. Morton FC is not some Tescos or Asda to most fans, despite your opinions. Money leaking out the back-door IS a problem for the fans because we ARE part of the club. It's like arguing that a congregation isn't part of the church. You can view it how you want but many of us are prepared to go above and beyond handing over money and expecting to be entertained. Christ, if that's what you are after, your money would have been better used on renting a movie every cold, wet saturday afternoon when we were playing Brechin, Forfar etc.

The highlighted comments certainly indicate the ideal scenario.

In its current form, Greenock Morton is a 'divide and rule' autocracy.

What the fans can do, want to do, and even attempt to do for the good of the Club is ultimately governed by the Club.

It could and should be so different. It should be as you suggest.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 19:51:40 I'm hoping that Davie Irons has sussed Dundee out and deliberately picks the best side to deal with them, accepting our limitations.

I DO believe Jenkins should figure.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 20:21:43
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Aug 21 2008, 08:06 PM) [snapback]498568[/snapback]
totally agree

why oh why can they not respond to emails? I doubt they are inundated with them?

The Club has a history of not replying to e-mails which don't 'suit'

It's very sad.

The Trust openly admits great difficulty in obtaining information at Board level, while communications from ordinary fans are frequently ignored.

I don't really think that is behaviour which suggests that the fans are valued by the Club.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 20:30:51
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 21 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]498551[/snapback]
Indeed it is.
The issue is of "respecting" a national anthem, and frankly I feel Northern Ireland does not deserve that respect for that, not to mention the various sectarian ditties allegedly sung last night).
I wouldn't pish on them if they were on fire.

Perhaps it has something to do with my age and upbringing, but if there were to be a minutes silence (the correct method of respect IMO) at a football match in recognition of the passing of somebody I had utterly despised in life, I would still feel the need to be 'respectful'.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 20:40:55
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 21 2008, 08:34 PM) [snapback]498582[/snapback]
That's a bit different, although it would depend upon the level of dislike/hatred the person generated.

At times when 'respect' is appropriate, as in burying the dead, I believe that those who are unable to contribute should stay away.

Last night was supposed to be a 'friendly' match. The fact that many were apparently unable to respect the National Anthem of others is backward looking and small minded IMO.

As I said I will happily see the end of the Monarchy, but I'd certainly have stayed quiet last night.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 21:08:35
QUOTE(Bryan @ Aug 21 2008, 08:32 PM) [snapback]498580[/snapback]
yes i think he got it, we will endevor to get an answer

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mortonjag 2008-08-21 21:13:34
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 21 2008, 08:56 PM) [snapback]498600[/snapback]
He didn't say they were hidden. mellow.gif

keep up old man !

I did not state that he did!

Next!
mortonjag 2008-08-21 21:25:31
QUOTE(Bryan @ Aug 21 2008, 08:29 PM) [snapback]498577[/snapback]
in what way unsure.gif

In that Jim McColl seems hopeless in getting any 'change' out of the Chairman, and as much as admitted it in a couple of his rare posts on this massage board.

I was discussing the Trust with my brother at the weekend. He was was quite heavily involved at the time of 'Save the Ton' and I was far too busy with work. Now it's more or less that in reverse.

When I mentioned Jim-he said-'Oh I remember, he was that wee quiet man who just kept turning up at meetings, and seemed a good idea to have on the Board'.

Can't you see how ludicrous the situation is Bryan? Jim McColl's a DIRECTOR. As of 1st July Alistair Donald's a DIRECTOR, yet the Trust is 'hoping' to get a reply to a letter it sent to AD almost two months ago which it's 'sure he received'!!

Does that not suggest a strange pecking order within the Boardroom? Jim McColl-the man appointed to KNOW about financial dealings FOR THE FANS' PROTECTION, can't lift a 'phone and ask a fellow director a simple question.


That at least is how I see it.




mortonjag 2008-08-21 21:38:56
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 21 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]498616[/snapback]
Then why use the word hide ?

Because it was the appropriate verb in my sentence.

Next!
mortonjag 2008-08-21 22:05:09
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 21 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]498631[/snapback]
Why ?

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mortonjag 2008-08-22 06:25:34
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Aug 21 2008, 10:40 PM) [snapback]498650[/snapback]
does he still post on here?

He is still at liberty to post here, but has only ever posted at a time when he and the Trust felt personally attacked. Stuart Duncan falls into exactly the same category. Those guys were protesting that they were 'loving the publicity' during the 'Keeping track of the money' thread, but the minute they felt secure they popped back into the cosy myopic cocoon which appears to be Trust Committee membership.

QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 21 2008, 11:39 PM) [snapback]498666[/snapback]
Now there is a thing. Whatever did become of the letter that was apparently sent to Mr. Donald on behalf of the Trust? That was quite a while ago now I believe, and for a guy who has "Morton at heart" (or whatever badge-kissing soundbyte it was) and is a director not to even have the courtesy to acknowledge the letter is simply taking the piss.

IF he received the letter, the lack of response speaks volumes. One thing is absolutely clear to me. Mr Donald is developing a reputation for aloofness and unapproachability. Hopefully that reputation will prove inaccurate. We already have a Chairman whose similar behaviour is progressively bringing the club to its knees in respect of relations with the fans. Much more of that, and I believe something will 'have to give'.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 06:42:14
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 22 2008, 05:55 AM) [snapback]498703[/snapback]
With all the decades of metal fabrication expertise on the Clyde, surely a few of the older Ton supporters could knock up some turnstiles.

They are hardly as complicated as Oberon class submarines.

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The current turnstyles are antiquated. Any time we have a decent crowd, queuing is a nightmare, and an indictment of the system. The Club probably has only a rough estimate of how much money fails to pass from fans to club, but over the course of a year it would, I suspect, pay for the installation of new turnstyles. Perhaps Alibi, or some other is able to indicate a rough installation cost.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 06:54:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 22 2008, 06:03 AM) [snapback]498704[/snapback]
This one didnae fly the coop.
Bosnian police have impounded a pigeon after discovering prisoners used it to smuggle drugs into one of the country's highest security jails, an official says.

"The guards suspected the animal might be involved in drug smuggling once they noticed four prisoners visibly intoxicated shortly after the pigeon landed on a prison window," Zenica prison official Josip Pojavnik told AFP.

All four inmates had tested positive for heroin, said Pojavnik, adding disciplinary proceedings had been launched against the inmates.

The drugs, he added, had probably been stuffed into tiny bags attached to the legs of the carrier pigeon, which one of the prisoners had previously been allowed to keep as a pet in his cell.

"We suspect that the pigeon carried the drugs from Tuzla," a town around 70km northeast of Zenica in central Bosnia, he added.

The pigeon had been taken into custody by police, who have launched an investigation aimed at identifying those who had loaded it up with the drugs.

"We do not know what to do with the pigeon, but for the time being it will remain behind bars," Pojavnik said.

The incident had prompted the prison administration to consider closing down a prisoner pigeon-breeding project established in a ward of the jail as part of a rehabilitation program, he added.

Pojavnik insisted those birds had not been involved in the incident.

A similar case of carrier pigeons being used by prisoners was reportedly uncovered earlier this year at a jail in Brazil, where the birds were being used to deliver drugs and even mobile telephones.
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Back on topic you knotty boy-one of Mr Rae's stool pigeons appears recently to have flown this forum! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-22 07:01:45
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 22 2008, 06:46 AM) [snapback]498708[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

Are there not several distinct issues here ?

The Trust represents the members of the Trust.

The Trust holds about 5% of the shares in the Ton.

Mr Donald was reported as planning to invest in 10% or 20% of the Ton.

Golden Casket needs to maintain, is it 75.1% of the Ton for tax purposes ?

Is it fair to suggest that to Messrs Rae and Donald, the Trust could be a minor irrelevance ??

And I make that suggestion with no disrespect to anyone.

I think that they just have different agendas.



Mr Rae's agenda has always been evident. On the day he saw fit to save the club he was ego massaging, and nothing has changed.

Mr Donald has no need to do similar IMO. I believe he may see himself in a minor philanthropic role with regard to the Ton, should he get control of the club.

I believe that Mr.Rae's ongoing agenda is what has prevented that from happening for the time being. Mr Donald appeared upbeat in his interview with the Tilly in January, after which he simply 'disappeared'.

If he's currently lost interest in owning the club, why bother with a minor shareholder?
mortonjag 2008-08-22 07:16:09
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 22 2008, 07:00 AM) [snapback]498711[/snapback]
Mind you CR claimed it would cost several hundered thousand pound for new turnstyles so your cheaper operating like this anyway


over the course of a year
would, I suspect, pay for the installation of new turnstyles.
Whit ??

Are they gold plated ?

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The replacement could easily be phased-there is currently minimal queuing given the crowd sizes, and not all turnstyles need to be operated IMO, particularly as efficient new ones would speed transit. In the interim, games which were clearly going to attract big crowds could be 'all ticket'-the attendance would already be known and folk could easily be allowed entry through temporary aisles at the relevant exit gates.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 07:20:44
QUOTE(centralTON @ Aug 22 2008, 12:37 AM) [snapback]498682[/snapback]
Sh1t himself ? laugh.gif

Rusty pants?
mortonjag 2008-08-22 07:26:34
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 21 2008, 11:22 PM) [snapback]498659[/snapback]
I dunno, it seems to be varying about a wee bit!!!

But aye, life sentence for murder should be compulsary, surely, unless there are extreme mitigating circumstances, e.g, the abused wife lashing out after one too many kickings.
And if we're going to have referendums on everything, there's not much point of politicians. Frankly, I wouldn't trust the general public to be in charge of anything of significance, half the country would probably run about with burning sticks and pitch-forks if the wrong person got voted out of Big Brother.

Your argument is self defeating EM. The general public IS in charge of selecting its government by popular ballot. That in itself is a referendum.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 07:34:28
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 22 2008, 01:58 AM) [snapback]498691[/snapback]
I have to say I really enjoyed tonight!!! Given the amount of time the members of MeM have been together and the complicated nature of our ouevre I'd say we were well ahead of plan. The album is 90% finished and it's gonna be classic!!!
Just settled down from the obvious buzz you get after a show.
If you ever get the chance to socialise with Frank CentralTon (and his good lady wife) then do so. He is a lovely guy, serious top bloke.
He also asked if our drummer was my brother!!! YES!!!!!!! He is actually my 21 year-old son!!!!! R-E-S-U-L-T-!!!!!!

Oh dear-McArthur confesses to under age sex.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 07:43:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 22 2008, 12:28 AM) [snapback]498679[/snapback]
Why aren't you a Scotland fan? Are you not Scottish? Don't you like football? Is it because too many caricatures turn up at the games wearing see-you-jimmy wigs and you cringe at the thought of being associated with them? Because you don't like Ronnie Brown or Mel Gibson? Because you think Doh a deer is a stupid song to sing while you watch your team getting humped?
I'm intrigued. I really am. I can understand why folk don't like the 'National' anthem though I wouldn't be bothered to boo at it myself. Strange it is how the same folk that want God to save the Queen also want to f*** the Pope. And vice versa. Maybe they all those types like their vice to be versa. I don't care much for flags or anthems myself. But I do love Scotland and football, that's why I'm a Scotland fan I suppose.



Is there no limit to the sexual precocity of some folk? Surely no self respecting Tim would want to hump wee Betty.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 07:51:41
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 21 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]498613[/snapback]
Not sure on this one so maybe MJ, only cos he's a quack laugh.gif can help out....

I thought Viagra was used to help guys that had a problem getting an erection not to make them last longer before ejaculating unsure.gif

Viagra is a wonder drug. It gives you a lovely big stiffy, but the pish stains near the top of the bathroom wall may have her wondering if it's really worth it.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 08:21:03
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Aug 22 2008, 07:56 AM) [snapback]498723[/snapback]
MJ...there was a time when folk would lick both sides of the stamp wink.gif

Indeed and it was a LONG time ago.

A wee story. I used to go to school by train. I'm talking about near enough fifty years ago. Wee Betty was due to travel through (not stop at) the station we used for school. They completely redecorated that ONE platform-hanging baskets-the lot, while leaving the rest of the place in its old state.

I remember as a young teenager thinking that was bizarre!
mortonjag 2008-08-22 08:27:00
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 22 2008, 08:12 AM) [snapback]498725[/snapback]
If your going down the road of public referenda for Government legistlation why restrict it to just crime and punishment? Would you not have liked to have had a referendum on whether or not we should have been involved in the invasion of Iraq and Afghanisan, for example? And whether or not Gordon Brown should have been appointed your Prime Minister, wouldn't you have liked to have had a say in that too instead of just the membership of one party?

The list is endless and therein lies the problem, it's a nice idea in theory but in practice it would be completely unworkable.


I think a referendum on capital punishment or birching would be completely workable.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 08:34:02
QUOTE(dazed @ Aug 22 2008, 08:26 AM) [snapback]498731[/snapback]
Fact- the Irish fans booed every player linked to Celtic as the teams were announced, fact -there was a lusty roar of no surrender during their national anthem ( and not by a minority either ) fact - they cheered every rangers player announced.
While I do not approve of booing National anthems I would not be apologising to them until they put their own house in order and cut out the very clear bigoted chants and comments in their ranks. bear in mind a player was threatened with his life if he did not stop playing for them and was booed by the so called fans of his country. If they are offended then tough , they offend us with their bigotry and hatred!

Perhaps the simplest solution would be to not paly anthems at all.



How the f*ck does a minority section of a football crowd indicate the general feelings of a democratic nation?

A national anthem was played. Booing was disrespectful to all the folk of that nation-not just 'them'! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-22 08:38:42 see!
mortonjag 2008-08-22 08:56:03
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 22 2008, 08:49 AM) [snapback]498739[/snapback]
One of the royals (not sure if it was the queen) came to Greenock to open the new hospital, and they fitted a new toilet seat to one of the toilets as it was judged that the royal 4rse was too good to touch a seat that anyone else might have sat on. After she had gone (don't know if she even used the toilet) the new seat was removed and the old one replaced. Illustrates the ridiculousness of the whole concept of monarchy.

I do hope there's no successor to the current throne.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 08:59:19
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 22 2008, 08:29 AM) [snapback]498733[/snapback]
For Britian to introduce either they'd have to leave the EU, so you'd have to have a referendum on that first.

So in other words, it aint going to happen any time soon and almost certainly never at all.

Get over it.

Is that the sort of comment you use when dealing with your little children?

Am I expected to respond with 'Grow up'? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-22 09:06:54
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Aug 22 2008, 09:01 AM) [snapback]498742[/snapback]
I witnessed the culprits with my own eyes(me and around 15 others) shouting that they would finish him off. Although I could never id the or it as I didn't have my glasses on. Read the post. The Police were too late. Read the post. There is no fear as there is no deterrent

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Don't give the little Viking an inch LL!
mortonjag 2008-08-22 09:10:25 Will some holy poster PLEASE speak to God about the weather?

Tell him to get the effin finger oot!
mortonjag 2008-08-22 10:16:07
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 22 2008, 09:49 AM) [snapback]498760[/snapback]
"Mr Rae's agenda has always been evident. "

As has yours MJ!

Come on - this is a thread about the appearance/ content of the new website.



Have I been naughty again?

What's the bloody web site about-communication between club and fans.

What is almost everybody asking-will there BE any more.

What's YOURS? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-22 10:23:53
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 22 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]498774[/snapback]
how about saving the AD talk for the 30 page thread about him, this is about the new website. smile.gif

Not like my little PT to want threads kept on topic-OK-here goes.

In my actual, personal, considered, and humble opinion, there is not a shadow of doubt that the new website will provide no better communication between Board and fans than that previous, and evidence to date confirms that that may prove to be correct.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 10:31:35
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 22 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]498782[/snapback]
laugh.gif I know, but im bored of all that stuff, and im interested in the new website, and what i say goes Biatch!

Indeed, and do you find it interesting?
mortonjag 2008-08-22 10:37:36
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 22 2008, 10:20 AM) [snapback]498775[/snapback]
For me it should be....



Cuthbert

Shimmin Greacen Harding
Finlayson Kenkins Paartalu Mcguffie Mcalister
Wake Russell


Kenkins will be kust fine-he'll do a kolly good kob I'd guess.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 10:52:36 What puzzles me is this.

The Poll Tax was introduced in 1989. Everybody who knew anything about local government finance predicted a disaster. What was Bawheid doing at the time-what was he thinking and saying?

In 1987 he was elected Member of Parliament for Banff and Buchan and later that year became Senior Vice Convener (Deputy Leader) of the SNP. He was at this time still viewed as being firmly on the left of the party and had become a key ally of Jim Sillars, who joined him in the British House of Commons when he won a by-election for the seat of Glasgow Govan in 1988.

Hmm!

Then of course there was the massive run down of the traditional heavy industries-Ravenscraig, for example, was just about to bite the dust!

What was he thinking and saying then?


Hmm!
mortonjag 2008-08-22 11:03:00
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 22 2008, 09:33 AM) [snapback]498751[/snapback]
The Note is a great venue when you're young!!!! Where we play is acually something we're seriously going to have to look at. Our audience is older for the most part and need things like baby-sitters so we're going to have to look at earlier shows.
blink.gif By my arithmetic 41-21=20. No doubt NewTon will on in a minute to correct my grammar but I can count a wee bit. And it's MR McArthur to you.

Now that you've finished your cosy wee chat with that clown, MR McArthur, I could have SWORN you are only thirty six!
mortonjag 2008-08-22 11:11:17
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 22 2008, 11:05 AM) [snapback]498813[/snapback]
Hey, Colin is no clown.
I was born in 1967. Do you think I'd spout the crap I do if I was only 36?

Pre senile dementia is indeed a sorry condition.

Colin is a Clown, Weegie is a W*nker, McArthur is a Muppet, and Mortonjag is the Messiah.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 11:15:31 Live roasted lug worm.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 11:17:31 I see Spurtle's out canvassing.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 11:23:39
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 22 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]498761[/snapback]
Absolutely 100% spot on Davie.

I doubt anything will happen though, seems like you can write just about anything on here these days and get away with it.



JUST ABOUT ANYTHING



there!

Calling somebody a pouffe-that's quite different.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 11:27:43
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 22 2008, 11:16 AM) [snapback]498822[/snapback]
Monkey.

ph34r.gif

Macerated Mouse Droppings.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 11:29:55
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 22 2008, 11:25 AM) [snapback]498825[/snapback]
Your obsession with homosexuality is almost out of control.

Almost as bad as my penchant for pouffes.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 11:36:48
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 22 2008, 11:12 AM) [snapback]498818[/snapback]
That's MR Muppet to you.

MR Muppet and Miss Piggy met at a gig. Miss Piggy thought he was wearing a wig.

'No' said MR Muppet, 'pull on my beard', and they lived happily ever after.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 11:43:44
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 22 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]498804[/snapback]
i do, i'm very much impressed with it. it was never going to be the finished article within the first week of it being launched. I've been on the new site more this week than i was on the old one the whole time it was there.

Lot's of hard work must be acknowledged. When do you think the Chairman will make his first contribution?
mortonjag 2008-08-22 11:52:18
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Aug 22 2008, 11:41 AM) [snapback]498837[/snapback]
he will give us the weather he sees fit to ... he said youre to f*** off by the way !



I just managed to get hold of him-he's a hard man to contact-and he said Cowshed Warrior's getting sent down later today.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 11:55:09
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 22 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]498796[/snapback]
Who was it?
I have done plenty after pipe band competitions. Crash in Glasgow, wake up, semi redo the uniform to look decent and crawl for a train.

Remember one time two of us got a train to Paisley (first one there, he lived there so would just change there and get the next train home) still in uniform. Stepping off the train and two Irish boys from another band were getting on to go to Prestwick looking fresh as daisys.

Daisies.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 11:58:05
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Aug 22 2008, 11:55 AM) [snapback]498860[/snapback]
I was sent down yesterday !! ffs he never gies me a break !

He has a hellish sense of humour at times.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 12:00:22
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 22 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]498844[/snapback]
Not really, because the idea of electing an MP is to select the person you feel is most able to stand up for your interests, a person who is most likely far more educated in these things than the vast majority of the general public.

One of the reasons I don't vote.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 12:05:38
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 22 2008, 11:55 AM) [snapback]498859[/snapback]
ohmy.gif Shocking thing to say.
TY smile.gif
You forgot to take your pills today then MJ
wink.gif
You tell him laugh.gif

laugh.gif

You know me so well-it's been fixed now!


I went to see that 'Mouse Eat Mouse'
With coke and bar of Snickers
McArthur's jokes-they made me boak
and almost pish my knickers.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 12:08:52 Glitter's impact has been far reaching. I was refused entry to the baths yesterday 'cos the 'S' had fallen off my trunks.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 12:16:34
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Aug 22 2008, 12:04 PM) [snapback]498872[/snapback]
well he did create you !! wink.gif

He created Mr Rae first-then he perfected the technique.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 12:23:39
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 22 2008, 11:50 AM) [snapback]498849[/snapback]
that would be an added bonus but he doesn't really need to, most teams websites don't have a section for their chairman to discuss things. As much as some people don't like Dougie or the things he says that was one of the good things about the old site.

I concur.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 12:25:29
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Aug 22 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]498875[/snapback]
I am not too bothered if Morton fiddle taxes a wee bit for the benefit of the club overall - however turnstile operators stealing cash for their own night out on the town is not on.

I heard it was to buy bags of Millions for their weans.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 12:34:26 How many calories in a banana

The calorie content of bananas are low to medium. Most of the calories in a banana come from carbohydrates, both naturally forming simple sugars and starch forms its carbohydrate content. Its interesting to note that the composition of carbohydrate calories change on ripening, the sugar levels rise and the starch levels fall as a banana ripens. It means that bananas are probably easier to digest the more ripe and yellow the fruit becomes.

The protein calories in a banana only make up about one percent of its total calorie content however this is much higher than the fat calories in the fruit which is less than one half percent.

There are many other fruits that have a calorie content lower than bananas. Take a look at our fruit calories page to compare them to banana calories.

The calories in a banana are digested slowly and help supply the body with a steady source of energy. Bananas are great for an energy boost if eaten about an hour before physical activity
mortonjag 2008-08-22 12:43:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 22 2008, 12:41 PM) [snapback]498913[/snapback]
daisys

Daisy's?
mortonjag 2008-08-22 12:47:29
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 22 2008, 12:41 PM) [snapback]498912[/snapback]
Great on toast too.

You enjoy poosy on toast!
mortonjag 2008-08-22 12:49:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 22 2008, 12:46 PM) [snapback]498916[/snapback]
Are there still Fyffes Bananas ?

Or are they long gone ?

My grandfather's place in Roxburgh Street circa 1963 ... Fyffes on Hovis toast.

Brilliant.

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Indeed-Fyffes are the Monkey's favourite. He claims they've been benders for so long they have perfected the banana.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 16:59:02
QUOTE(suda @ Aug 22 2008, 04:45 PM) [snapback]499068[/snapback]
the site moderator should be able to confirm IP addresses to see if the jag is masquerading as a 19 year old girl!!

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I notice Big Blue Eyes hasn't called anybody a pouffe so far! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-22 17:09:03
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 22 2008, 01:05 PM) [snapback]498937[/snapback]
I don't see much wrong with that myself - then again, I'm not a Labour leadership candidate scraping the barrel to avoid electoral oblivion.
Nor am I Mortonjag. blush.gif

Nor will you EVER be Mortonjag sonny boy.

In this instance , Mortonjag merely asked a legitimate question. No attack, no spin.

Is that all right with you, you POUFFLET.?
mortonjag 2008-08-22 17:24:05 Susan and the Giant Banana


INTRODUCTION



Once upon a time there was a little girl called Susan. Susan lived with her Mummy and Daddy, in a little cottage in the woods.

She was a lovely little girl, and her neighbours always cheered up at the mere sight of her merrily playing in the garden with her pet puppy Horatio.

Susan was an obedient child who never told lies or swore, respected her elders, went to Church twice on a Sunday, and despised jokes about Garry Glitter................... but behind Susan's lovely little girl image there lurked a dark secret................................... laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-22 17:32:48 It's pretty obvious to me that no matter how much FTOF preaching we get on here, the W of Scotland bigotry dies hard deep within the minds of some apparently genuine Ton fans.


FACT--At a 'friendly' international football match, a large number of fans took it upon themselves to desecrate the National Anthem of the opposing country for reasons which had nothing to do with football or friendship.

The fact that some folk on this forum are defending that behaviour suggests that they are happy to use football as a platform for their own political or religious views. That sort of behaviour, I'd suggest is better left to the OF.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 17:39:01
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Aug 22 2008, 02:25 PM) [snapback]498976[/snapback]
Gary Glitter walks into a Post Office with The Pope and John Leslie...

Wrong topic. ph34r.gif

smile.gif

Why do cows have bells?

In case their horns get broken.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 17:41:52
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 22 2008, 04:57 PM) [snapback]499077[/snapback]
I think that would be the only time that something like this could be possibly considered edible!

that
mortonjag 2008-08-22 17:44:48
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 22 2008, 05:19 PM) [snapback]499095[/snapback]
laugh.gif
A loaded question from the Jag as ever.
I believe a mini pouffe would be a footstool or similar. blush.gif

Wrong again!

A mini pouffe would never exceed eleven inches.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 17:51:13 While in the store this morning this big c*nt kept staring at me.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 17:53:32
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 22 2008, 05:32 PM) [snapback]499107[/snapback]
This mans army aye? wink.gif

mad.gif

This man's 'Army' -Aye?
mortonjag 2008-08-22 17:57:45
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 22 2008, 05:46 PM) [snapback]499118[/snapback]
this

I'm attempting to help you. I didn't quite appreciate HOW bad the situation is. Feel free to ignore my little prompts! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-22 18:01:29
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 22 2008, 05:54 PM) [snapback]499121[/snapback]
Note you didn't issue a rebuttal about the loaded questioning...
Standards are indeed slipping, not least in furniture semantics.

The Monkey just read that.

His comment:

'Dad izzat thi we spahrit manne wiph hys bigge wirds agen'? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-22 18:16:18
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Aug 22 2008, 06:01 PM) [snapback]499126[/snapback]

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mortonjag 2008-08-22 18:19:08
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 22 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]499128[/snapback]
Disgraceful - the parent should be the first teacher of the child.

He is dyslexic.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 18:21:30
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 22 2008, 05:32 PM) [snapback]499105[/snapback]
I should really be informed about this and any pictures that may exist! smile.gif

that which
mortonjag 2008-08-22 18:25:55
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 22 2008, 06:16 PM) [snapback]499135[/snapback]
I boo'd, its got nowt to do with me being an OF bigot. Don't care what you think of me boo'ing but it had nowt to do with that
FACT we had bigotary brought to Hampdem by the NI fans with rants/chants/ and flags. You miss that out. The boo'ing had nowt to do with Bigotary, more to do with the Anthem(well for me, I suppose I cannot say for 25k others)
Your posts on this forum I would say are picked on and you pronouced a s*** stirrer etc, though I can see between the lines and get your points of view. But with blanketing those who boo'd with the same bigot blanket as those who sang the Anthem, shows you are are blinded to the reason behind the boo'ing as those who are on here to your posts.

Out of all people I thought you would have see past it all MJ, am shocked.

smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-22 18:28:46
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 22 2008, 06:26 PM) [snapback]499149[/snapback]
So he put the quotation marks around the sentence yet not the relevant question mark?
That's not dyslexia - that's just a basic structure error.
No award for you nor your monkey I'm afraid.

It was a combined effort. Please do not attempt to second guess the Monkey.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 18:36:28 Right-here's the question-does anybody still like a Garry Glitter choon when he hears one? I strongly suspect they have been banned from the popular media, but the guy made MUNNY out of stuff folk wanted to hear.

To put it differently, if you heard a nice choon and then discovered it had been Garry Glitter, would it suddenly become nasty?
mortonjag 2008-08-22 18:48:32
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 22 2008, 06:37 PM) [snapback]499157[/snapback]
It is indeed difficult to second guess either the monkey or yourself when you cannot even construct a simple sentence. blush.gif

youse!
mortonjag 2008-08-22 18:50:59
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 22 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]499161[/snapback]
happy.gif

laugh.gif

Feel free to teach me to count.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 18:56:53
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 22 2008, 05:42 PM) [snapback]499116[/snapback]
Let mj and NewTon have their fun lording it up over the common five-eighths with their hilarious aliases (aliiiii? unsure.gif)


Dictionary.com
a·li·as noun, plural -as·es, adverb
–noun
1. a false name used to conceal one's identity; an assumed name: The police files indicate that Big Blue Eyes is an alias for Mortonjag.
–adverb
2. at another time; in another place; in other circumstances; otherwise. “Newton alias Nach0king†means that Newton in other circumstances has called himself Nach0king.

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mortonjag 2008-08-22 19:00:04 I just don't see us getting much out of this. A draw would be fantastic, but I suspect it will be very tight with them snatching the goal they need. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-22 19:07:03
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 22 2008, 06:53 PM) [snapback]499169[/snapback]
I can quite easily separate the man from the music.

One is reprehensible, the other has its attractions, although I'd suggest he will get no air play going forward.

And his actions don't deserve it to be honest. But on his day he was a great showman.
TonInDublin

OK-let's move it on.

IF-totally hypothetically- if the Glitter Band was to reform, and was getting 'rave' reviews, could anybody enjoy one of the gigs?
mortonjag 2008-08-22 19:13:14
QUOTE(forza ton @ Aug 22 2008, 07:10 PM) [snapback]499178[/snapback]
ach dry yer eyes ya miserable c***s!! i post on here all the time and know loads of the guys so i can have a wee gloat and a carry on if i like. anyway 336 post views laugh.gif

btw spains f***ing roasting and puuuure magic.

Hope yer baws frazzle.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 19:15:43
QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 22 2008, 07:12 PM) [snapback]499182[/snapback]
I've just went out and got hammered? ohmy.gif

Been electrocuted by a live nail?
mortonjag 2008-08-22 19:20:03
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 22 2008, 06:56 PM) [snapback]499171[/snapback]
I can't without a calculator. It's an accounting thing smile.gif

That genuinely saddens me. I frequently take five or six items to the till in-say- a filling station, and I've added up the price and worked out the change due before I hand them over. I used to think everybody could do that sort of thing, but it's getting rarer. It must be a dawdle to short change folk those days.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 19:29:53
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 22 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]499162[/snapback]
Nope

Check the calculator-Mortonjag's always right!



Neurotic's epitaph.


'I KNEW ALL ALONG'
mortonjag 2008-08-22 19:43:14
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 22 2008, 07:17 PM) [snapback]499186[/snapback]
You making the assumption that Glitter is singing with them or not. They had hits on their own without him.

If he is singing, then no I don't think i could see past the person he has become knowing what he's done to kids.

If it was a celebration of music that is timeless by talented musicians who helped make it the first time round then yes.

TonInDublin

I feel much the same, though the music industry is littered with successful performers who are known to have varying degrees of 'perversion'.

Do you think that folk who COULD now enjoy watching Mr Glitter perform musically would, by definition, be perverted themselves?
mortonjag 2008-08-22 19:46:22
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 22 2008, 07:41 PM) [snapback]499198[/snapback]
Not right to compare the two.

Freedom of speech, says there is nowt wrong in boo'ing

Booing is NOT speaking-it's making loud animal noises.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 19:54:45 Compare the night before a match when we were leading the third division to tonight.

The forum used to be buzzing with predictions, enthusiasm, and talk about individual players-who would score etc. etc.

It's like an effin morgue on here those days.

Is it just because-quite simply- there's not much to get excited about? I'm looking forward to the trip to Dundee, and I'm hoping for good weather and a good result, but can't honestly say I'm 'buzzing'! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-22 20:02:27
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 22 2008, 07:52 PM) [snapback]499213[/snapback]
The Upper Voltan Boo Monkey.

laugh.gif

The Brainless Broomy Boo Baboon.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 20:05:17
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Aug 22 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]499221[/snapback]
If you think you know the answer or if you want to know the answer PM me. It just requires a little lateral thinking.

I'm laterally thinking you had a good laugh typing that with soapy water running down the back of your legs!

The monkey suggests it's the first guy to take aff his bunnet and have a swatch!
mortonjag 2008-08-22 20:13:14
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Aug 22 2008, 08:10 PM) [snapback]499233[/snapback]
I wasn't at the match, but if I was I might have bood, or I might not have, depending on which of my personalties I had at the time.

Don't let Puggs see that! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-22 20:15:44
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Aug 22 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]499230[/snapback]
Perhaps. But do you know the answer to the question, son ?

I'll get fing onto it!

Ha-I knew fing would know. Man one 'cos he's the only one who could see two hats of the same colour so his must be different!
mortonjag 2008-08-22 20:23:34
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Aug 22 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]499243[/snapback]
If there was no steps and they all stood level then 1 would not be able to see 3 as he wouldnt be able to see through 2.

Is fing correct!
mortonjag 2008-08-22 20:25:06
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Aug 22 2008, 08:23 PM) [snapback]499245[/snapback]
that's wrong son. Man 1 can see 2 and 3. 2 has a white hat and 3 has a black hat. Man 1 doesnt know what colour of hat he ( man 1 ) is wearing

Fing sez you didn't specify the hats were as per picture-back to the drawing board!

Fing sez man 2 steps back and can then see the two black hats!
mortonjag 2008-08-22 20:40:03
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Aug 22 2008, 08:25 PM) [snapback]499248[/snapback]
Naw

Is he right yet?


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mortonjag 2008-08-22 20:47:29
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 22 2008, 08:42 PM) [snapback]499256[/snapback]
Dead easy actually. rolleyes.gif

Is fing correct-he's been promised a new bag of nails if he is!

I now have the answer!

Fing is right-he got the correct answer within the rules and his method's quicker than the published one. He's off for some shooting practice! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-22 20:54:57
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 22 2008, 08:05 PM) [snapback]499226[/snapback]
Or it could be some mad doctor is slowly sucking the life out of the board so a lot of people don't come on it nearly as often as they used to.

Never know eh? wink.gif

I'd imagine that's spot on! laugh.gif

QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 22 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]499242[/snapback]
Nah, can't be that........... rolleyes.gif shutup.gif ph34r.gif


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QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 22 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]499252[/snapback]
you start this thread every week laugh.gif

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QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 22 2008, 08:42 PM) [snapback]499257[/snapback]
Tomorrow will see one of the worst away supports we have took to a Saturday league game in many a year.

I thought this forum wasn't a reflection of the general support-oh wait the mad doctor's got to them too! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-22 21:02:13
QUOTE(Bryan @ Aug 22 2008, 08:48 PM) [snapback]499266[/snapback]
hope he burns in hell

Why-has the devil stopped paying the gas bill?
mortonjag 2008-08-22 21:43:01
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 22 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]499290[/snapback]
Well in, Rain Man.

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You're NOT Newton!!!!!!!!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-22 21:50:42
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Aug 22 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]499279[/snapback]
Ah the good Dr Shipman strikes again..your right as always, it is like a morgue in here and I'll give two guesses as to who has put us all in the morgue.
Keep it up and you might just achieve something *careful, or I'll close down the Internet* promised to do but failed to carry out. Maybe not the internet, even shug was delusional, but you may just kill of this website as a social network for Morton supporters. Shug would have been proud of you.

But then let's not forget, killing things off, that would be true to form for the good Dr Shipman.

Mr Rae would be my first guess Measles-run along now-he's just opened a big tin of Pedigree Chum!

QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 22 2008, 09:20 PM) [snapback]499291[/snapback]
There's an increasing sense of desperation to these threads, too. It's cringe-worthy, "are you up for it"-ism.

That's cringe worthy jealous angry little fat boy syndrome, Smeggy. I notice you never had the decency to apologise for your cringe worthy filth on the AD thread. You were SO wrong-weren't you! smile.gif smartass.gif thumbup2.gif bouncy.gif

QUOTE(Ghost @ Aug 22 2008, 09:24 PM) [snapback]499298[/snapback]
They can always take a friend ph34r.gif
Swing them lights

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mortonjag 2008-08-22 21:54:21
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 22 2008, 09:46 PM) [snapback]499316[/snapback]
Eeeeeeeeeeh that is rotten. Feet and Spiders are the only two things in the world im really scared of.

I have four pairs of shoes for sale!
mortonjag 2008-08-22 21:55:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 22 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]499231[/snapback]
Nope

'Nope'.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 22:04:01
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 22 2008, 09:22 PM) [snapback]499296[/snapback]
These are my thoughts on the matter, too.

That said the Irish who conducted themselves with dignity that day at Croke Park have my utmost respect.



I don't believe you know the meaning of respect, let alone 'utmost', Smegma.

I do believe you imagine you are much more important than your life station indicates, and resent those who are clearly superior to you.

Just my humble opinion, I hasten to add! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-22 22:18:43
QUOTE(Ghost @ Aug 22 2008, 09:26 PM) [snapback]499299[/snapback]
Jees, i must be tail of the bank when it comes to things like this. Just received it in an email from a pal in Jordan blink.gif . Bet that would go down well out there. I can remove it if you want, not a problem smile.gif

What always intrigues me about this sort of thing is the inevitable dual morality. If some folk knew the jokes doctors tell behind closed doors, their hair would undoubtedly stand on end, and they'd want them struck off just because they have different 'morality'!!!

AYE EFFIN RIGHT!

I'm talking about good, genuine, compassionate, caring, and competent physicians who in practice don't find in the slightest amusing the very things they ridicule in private.

Laughing at Glitter jokes does not condone paedophilia-it can be construed even as a way of coping with a fact of life which is in reality unpleasant-just as in my previous example.

Furthermore-like it or not-the man is, by any standards, sick.

So Gibby, Ghost, or Garry- I find the wee picture extremely funny, and say to anybody who doesn't-'start flinging that first stone'! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-23 06:06:25
QUOTE(Mags @ Aug 22 2008, 10:34 PM) [snapback]499359[/snapback]
My pal brought a copy in to work tonight.

He wasn't very complimentary about Jamie Stevenson...except when he mentioned his car...!!

Wouldn't mind a wee look at the calendar he did for Clyde 1 wub.gif

Mags.

Indeed, he mentioned twice the possibility that Jamie is allergic to soap and water!

What are kids like Jamie and Jimbo doing running around in big BMW's?
mortonjag 2008-08-23 06:15:44
QUOTE(capitanus @ Aug 23 2008, 01:01 AM) [snapback]499447[/snapback]
PMSL @ this thread. laugh.gif laugh.gif
Forthbank always seems to be cast up, but it begs the questions:

If Toby was some middle-aged middle-class guy with steel-framed specs, a carcoat and a placard demanding Jim McInally quits after the shambles that was the game that day, would half of this messageboard be so forthcoming to take shots at him for it? No, would they f***. They'd be so far up his arse that his turds would be touching his eye teeth. But no, hes just an ordinary young guy and that his first love, Morton, has become obsessive and a bit OTT.

Also, in defence of Toby, he is a good-natured big guy. He isn't a violent person by any stretch of the imagination, he likes a bevvy and speaks his mind, nothing wrong with that. Yet he is branded a 'known trouble-maker' by the Chief Steward of an SFL Club based on the hearsay of a worm-like glorified errand boy. That same Morton Official laugh.gif has been in and around the club for a long time and will probably know some folk that have been involved in trouble at football matches, yet he doesnt seem to keen to tell tales about them to Sweepstake selling policemen. dry.gif laugh.gif



Don't talk keech-the Morton Mafia has no respect for age, class, or Profession, as this poster knows very well.

Anyway-back to your post and I agree with all the rest of your comments regarding Toby (whom I back to the hilt on this), and I'm curious to know if your final assessment is based on further information, or just educated guesswork.
mortonjag 2008-08-23 06:25:04
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Aug 22 2008, 11:58 PM) [snapback]499399[/snapback]
Mainly thanks to you I'd say. mad.gif

Of course you would Anus!

QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 23 2008, 12:00 AM) [snapback]499401[/snapback]
Go away.

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QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Aug 23 2008, 01:02 AM) [snapback]499448[/snapback]
...and it's not just him.

The numerous arse kissers he has on here now
The most boring poster in the history of t'internet - deego
s***e alias such as big blue eyes or whatever
Mods who don't really give a fck

The list goes on
...

Forum has gone WAY downhill.

......and on and on....on and on and on son. Posts like yours are just a complete joke-this is a football forum remember-not a kiddies creche where I'm sure your needs would be ably met.

QUOTE(centralTON @ Aug 23 2008, 01:09 AM) [snapback]499451[/snapback]
Would disagree most wholeheatredly.

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mortonjag 2008-08-23 06:39:45 If we were playing attractive football and had a chance of leaving Dundee tonight topping the league, the fans would turn out in goodly numbers despite the undoubted cost. It's as simple as that. For too long we've been told to be thankful for 'second best', and that gratitude is evaporating to be replaced by a cynical awakening to reality.

Still no 'statement' of intent from Cappielow I note, though I've heard it down the grapevine that the Tilly's been getting a couple of letters.

If he's openly criticised to the public of Inverclyde and not just on this wee 'rag' where his nasty agents attempt to muffle criticism, often to their own ultimate demise as credible posters, the old Sugar Daddy will be bound to respond.

That should make for interesting reading!
mortonjag 2008-08-23 06:58:35
QUOTE(johngourock @ Aug 22 2008, 11:03 PM) [snapback]499368[/snapback]
Many thanks to everyone who decided to comment on my book on Andy Ritchie. I have exercised my right of reply.
I really appreciate the time and effort everyone has taken to criticise the book.
I hardly know where to begin to reply.
First of all I have never written a book on Lou McCari as one writer says. I have never claimed to have written a book on Lou. I interviewed Lou McCari when he was manager of Huddersfield Town, that is my sole contact with the former Celtic and Manchester United fan.
The King of Cappielow when it was finished in manuscript form was given to Andy as most of the information contained in the book was offered by Andy himself. He was invited to sign it as a true record of our discussions and conversations. I researched a great deal of the information, contacted Sir Alex Ferguson, Mark McGee, Willie Miller, Bernie Slaven and others and had several face to face contacts with the author of the books Morton Greats and More Morton Greats, Graeme Ross.
It was against this background that I wrote the book.
Andy had the original manuscript for literally months and made all the alterations he wished at that stage.
About two weeks before publication the big fella advised me that in March of 2009 he was going to publish his autobiography in which he will tell his story from his perspective with a totally different slant on his life.
A biography is a story about a person written by someone from their contact and discussions with the person.
All of the information contained in the book came from Andy himself or from researched information.
I was disappointed to read that some members of the board thought the book did not do justice to Andy Ritchie. Whilst acknowledging I could not expect to please all of the people who read the book I was encouraged by the comments I had received from supporters as far a field as Essex, Canada and the United States.
I never suggested I was a JK Rowling or Jeffrey Archer but I wrote the story of Andy Ritchie from the heart.
If I have made mistakes I will have to hold my hands up. That was never my intention.
I was aware that the publication before it was even published upset some folk - I received one email that accused me of "cannonising" Andy Ritchie. I then found out it was a journalist.
I have made not money at all from this biography much to the contrary. I have been coming up to Greenock many times, meeting with Andy, talking to supporters and was only aware of the controversy my writing had caused when somebody emailed me tonight.
On the subject of the relationship I have with Morton FC where I am a share holder I would say this.
At the outset before I had written a word I contacted the club to ask if I could use the club crest and various programmes from the 1970's which I had purchased from programme dealers. The club responded by asking if they could have 10% of the royalties from the book.
That offer was declined on the advice of the publisher and Morton refused to allow me to use the club crest and any information from the 1970's contained in Morton programmes.
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I met with officials of the club and it was agreed they would be supplied with books at wholesale price. To my knowledge the club have not ordered books. I visited Smith's Sports Shop on 9th August when they did they agree to take the book. I also visited WH Smith's in Greenock and invited them to stock the book.
I have not as yet received any royalties or payment for writing the book. But I have made at least 8 visits to Greenock researching the book which involved more than 3,200 miles travel and hotel accomodation which I paid from my own pocket. I have visited Andy at his home in Bellshill, I have visited Motherwell FC., Middlesbrough and other areas to try and give an accurate portrayal of Andy's life.
That was never my intention or was it my intention to offend any Morton supporters or to quote incorrect information.
I was at The Spinnaker Hotel on 9th August after attending the St. Johnstone game when Andy attended for a book signing. More than 100 fans attended. I was with him on 10th August at the Keystore in Cowal View, Gourock when again he signed books and had his picture taken with fans. On Saturday 16th August Andy attended Smith's Sports Shop and again signed books, chatted with fans and indeed sold out the books Smith's had purchased.
Again I am genuinely sorry that The King of Cappielow has received such a poor response from Morton fans. That really does disappoint me. Months of research, hours of interviews with Andy, thousands of miles of travel, countless hotel bills for - what amounts to a poor review.
I hope that when Andy produces his autobiography sometime in 2009 that you will look on it more favourably than my effort.
I wish Morton FC my sincere best wishes for the rest of the season and again I am extremly disappointed that my book has not pleased the Morton faithful.

John




John, I'm wondering if you'd like to write another book entitled 'Rae of Hope'?

I have significant documented material to get you kick started!
mortonjag 2008-08-23 07:10:09
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 23 2008, 04:07 AM) [snapback]499485[/snapback]
The golden rule of conduct is mutual toleration, seeing that we will never all think alike and we shall see Truth in fragments and from different angles of vision.

Conscience is not the same thing for all.

Whilst, therefore, it is a good guide for individual conduct, imposition of that conduct upon all will be an insufferable interference with everybody's freedom of conscience.

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Highly impressed Newt-did you write that all by yourself? laugh.gif

Here's my quote-

I KNOW my rights, and I've every effin right to 'boo' 'cos' I KNOW I'm right and they're effin wrong! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-23 07:16:08
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 22 2008, 10:52 PM) [snapback]499364[/snapback]
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c.f.
Bawheid's to the right of Dave C and Broon on Economic policy.

That's a good thing, rolleyes.gif

I notice that despite tumshie top's vehement retraction, his old bum chum Sillars has described him as 'revisionist'.

Not often I choose to believe a 'leftie'! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-23 07:22:46
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 23 2008, 06:12 AM) [snapback]499488[/snapback]
but I can't place him ???

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Do you know this man?
mortonjag 2008-08-23 07:39:45
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 23 2008, 01:33 AM) [snapback]499460[/snapback]
A lot worse has been posted on the other Forums.

The fact I queried which Forum my GG Jokes thread should be in surely didn't merit the closing of it altogether.

I looked at it earlier on yesterday morning and could see a certain poster was getting rather irate but can someone please inform me as to what led to it's closure / removal ??

I didn't exactly see anyone complaining about 9/11 or 7/7 jokes where innocent folk lost their lives.

Of course maybe the death of someone through a terrorism act ain't as bad as the act of tampering with an underager who lives to tell the story unsure.gif

One of the big factors in the thread being closed was the argument that 'children watch the forum'!

Of course they do-I reckon their average age is 41!!!

Maybe if the parents of potential under age viewers paid more attention to their sprogs' illicit behaviour than to making a big guilty fuss in excuse of their own omissions, the thread would have carried on to a harmless and amusing conclusion.
mortonjag 2008-08-23 07:43:10
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 23 2008, 06:44 AM) [snapback]499494[/snapback]
Me either. That's why i was asking. Thought there might be a couple of kinky buggers on here. ph34r.gif

I reckon there probably are some kinky buggers on here MrsT, and I reckon they are more into bums than baffies.
mortonjag 2008-08-23 07:51:26 Happy birthday to my long term detractor and secret lover!


MUZ



Have a jolly time, and may the Ton win just for you! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-23 09:05:05
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 23 2008, 08:39 AM) [snapback]499510[/snapback]
Don't you ever speak to Mr Rae like that again. rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-23 09:14:40
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 23 2008, 08:44 AM) [snapback]499514[/snapback]
You putting photos of yourself on here again Douglas?

I'll put photos of me anywhere I like young man-I'm the boss!
mortonjag 2008-08-23 09:17:01
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 23 2008, 09:06 AM) [snapback]499518[/snapback]

Sober up -there's already a thread on this! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-23 09:22:36
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 23 2008, 09:17 AM) [snapback]499523[/snapback]
4-4.
Value for money and a good result.

Hope springs eternal eh!

VT- I NEVER dream the results of Ton games, and this is the honest truth. Last night I dreamt we were walking down the stairs of the Dens stand after a boring 0-0 draw. My Auntie Jenny was with us (she's 86 and lives in Kilmacolm) as was my cousin Hugh who wouldn't know a football from a melon!


Take from that what you will. Should I put £10 on at Mr Hill's boutique?
mortonjag 2008-08-23 09:30:30
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 23 2008, 09:25 AM) [snapback]499531[/snapback]
Morton is an equal opportunities club after all. wink.gif

Where has the Club ever stated that? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-23 09:39:19
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 23 2008, 09:22 AM) [snapback]499527[/snapback]
Don't think it should have been closed, should have been moved to this forum. After all, General Nonsense is for public viewing and the thread really wasn't to everyone's taste.

Threads should not be closed or moved just because 'they are not to everybody's taste', or the forum would die overnight.

The truth is that the Mods bowed to pressure from a small number of posters, and as I said the 'children see this' comment may have been a big factor.

In my opinion, FAR, FAR worse has gone unfettered on the ordinary forum, when nobody complained about children watching/reading.

If parents have any doubts about what their children are viewing they should impose some control themselves. I presume yesterday's moaners have also been lobbying the Mods of every soft porn site in the country, just in case their inquisitive little sprogs discover bums and tits. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-23 09:51:48
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 23 2008, 09:36 AM) [snapback]499539[/snapback]
Revisionist.

Bawheid is to Thatcherism what David Irving is to Hitlerism. laugh.gif

It just gets better.

Clicky



I really liked this wee bit!


Nothing would do apparently but for the First Minister (the First Minister, remember) to arrange to call a BBC Radio Scotland phone-in programme and put an immediate stop to the tiniest suggestion that he was a secret Thatcherite admirer or that he had misrepresented Scots for whom the name Thatcher remains a term of vicious political abuse.

Who was that you mentioned-that Austrian Nationalist!
mortonjag 2008-08-23 10:06:16
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 23 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]499532[/snapback]
Oops !
you mean this one ? unsure.gif
http://www.greenockmorton.org/forum/index....showtopic=22837

in my defence i dont tend to read a lot of threads that were started by Newton, lets be honest MOST of the threads he/she (don't know, don't care) starts are complete pish !

Newton is the most misunderstood poster after Mortonjag! His/her/its heart's in the right place.
mortonjag 2008-08-23 10:10:19
QUOTE(Ghost @ Aug 23 2008, 09:46 AM) [snapback]499544[/snapback]
You talking about the Mods again MJ laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-23 11:47:54
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 23 2008, 11:12 AM) [snapback]499580[/snapback]
Laughing at things we fear/hate is a part of the human condition.

You know the joke
Doctor- "I've got some good news and sone bad news"
Patient-"Give me the bad news."
Doc-"You've got cancer"
Patient"Fukking hell , what's the good news?"
Doc"You've got Alzheimer's, you'll forget about the cancer in a moment"

Nope, cancer and Alzheimer's themselves ain't funny but laughing about them is a way of coping with the grizzliness of it all.

Glitter is not funny, he's a scumbag, but we can laugh at his pathetic attempts to plead innocence, the picture mocks him and his pretend innocence, it doesn't condone basturts like him, it excoriates them.

TiD, this is the correct place for such jests and such discussions in my humble.

Precisely my point Mr Bam.

Given that we have this forum-fair enough to move it I guess, but even on the ordinary forum NOBODY was condoning Glitter's behaviour, and nobody was praising it.

On the contrary we could all have talked maturely in explicit and gory terms about what we imagine went on during his exploits. Would THAT have been immoral-the problem of paedophilia exists-people do NOT choose to become paedophiles-there is plenty of discussion about homosexuality-regarded still by many as 'depraved'.

For most, open discussion of paedophile behaviour is 'a bridge too far' so they joke about it instead.

Perhaps some would do better to pretend that like Mr Rae's gaffes, death and the tax man, it doesn't exist at all.

Ignore it and it'll go away! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-23 11:56:40
QUOTE(capitanus @ Aug 23 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]499564[/snapback]
Its based on an educated guess. Toby states that he was informed by Gillian Donaldson that a club official didn't instruct the stewards to refuse him entry, which he doesnt believe and neither do I.

If i return to watch Morton anytime soon, it will be as an away supporter as I can bring myself to give any more money to them. The events I've read just make me feel further vindicated.

Gillian Donaldson has in the past said many things which have subsequently been proven inaccurate. I hope Toby doesn't let go till the truth is found. The fact that Morton have made no actual effort to publicly vindicate themselves by pinning the tab on the true culprit, smacks strongly of yet another cover up.
mortonjag 2008-08-23 12:06:15
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 23 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]499557[/snapback]
What was I wrong about?

The injured innocence of the bare faced liar-eh Smeggy. You were wrong about lots of things-primarily about trying to discredit a bona fide poster who was seeking and GOT the truth.

I'm getting pissed of with personal attacks-not disagreements about opinion or points of principle-just unwarranted personal attacks.

Some do so because they are too thick to understand what's really going on. Your remit is different. As an ex Mod (has the manner of you 'chucking it' something to do with your ongoing problem with Mortonjag?) you should know much better. I'm surprised the present Mods haven't noticed!

Mortonjag's p.m. club is doing just nicely thanks. I now get regular exhortations to 'keep asking questions' from posters eminently better qualified, more experienced, and brighter than yourself.

As I said -you were wrong about lots of things.
mortonjag 2008-08-23 12:09:34
QUOTE(ShimminTon @ Aug 23 2008, 11:15 AM) [snapback]499582[/snapback]
I've checked that thread twice over and couldn't see anything wrong. Mr Newall at it again rolleyes.gif

Aye right! How long did that take you and why read it twice. 'Shimmin Ton'-nine bloody posts and feels he can say-'Mr Newall at it again'.

You sound like another insider weasel to me dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-24 09:15:31
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 23 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]499613[/snapback]
I'm genuinely interested, what was he actually wrong about as I sure as hell am not going back through the thread!

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QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Aug 23 2008, 12:24 PM) [snapback]499617[/snapback]
You could have hit the nail on the head. dry.gif

So demoralising to open the page and see that 40 threads have been replied to by MJ.
So I just go over to P&B instead.

Go to church instead!

QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 23 2008, 01:49 PM) [snapback]499655[/snapback]
So THAT is where we've been going wrong. If we had just banned MJ, then we would have been saved years of turgid football, inept management, and watching our club being ran like a tuck shop.
However did we not realise? ohmy.gif
Load of pish. The simple fact of the matter is that the majority of people are losing patience with Morton on all levels and can't be bothered anymore, and that is backed up by the steadily declining attendances. This forum merely reflects the growing apathy towards Morton even within previously dedicated fans, it's nothing to do with one single poster. If we must blame one person for the current state of lethargy, then I do believe I can provide a far better target than some retired old geezer with a computer and too much time on his hands. That isn't the point though. There are many reasons for the current disillusionment, and MJ most certainly isn't one of them. Some people really need to grow up and stop taking this board so seriously.

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QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 23 2008, 11:14 PM) [snapback]499901[/snapback]
I didn't discredit Greacen2000 about anything. In fact I applauded his perseverance, and dedication to the truth.

I recall accusing you of being primarily interested in self-aggrandisement, which I stand by.
Can you name an example?

Greacen's involvement in that thread was incidental. That has been explained already-something which you chose to ignore, in order to pursue your vendetta. To put it in the nicest possible way, Greacen volunteered to ask Mortonjag questions after he had sent the Jag a p.m. At that point he had NO IDEA that AD was not a director, while Mortonjag had the Companies House reports right under his nose. They are still here, dated well before Greacen was 'guided' to the truth! rolleyes.gif

FURTHERMORE, far from Mortonjag pursuing 'self aggrandisement' (why not just expose the stuff himself if that were so), Mortonjag too, was acting in conjunction with others in the pursuit of the truth. Indeed it could be said that Mortonjag was acting as an undercover agent!

THOSE OTHERS, Smeggy, have VAST clout among the fans-they have immense credibility-and they specifically encouraged the Jag in order to keep their own cover intact! smile.gif

Why is it that all the DECENT posters who gave Mortonjag a VERY hard time on the AD thread have now backed off when they've realised who was right all along.

Why is solitary little Smegma steadfastly slevering over his keyboard, using the AD thread as an ongoing platform for his so far unexplained and apparently unreasonable vendetta against Mortonjag? Can Mortonjag have the answer please? Does chubby little Smegma KNOW the answer? A vastly experienced physician with a special interest in psychological problems, Mortonjag has his own theory.



QUOTE(Cawston @ Aug 24 2008, 12:02 AM) [snapback]499917[/snapback]
Don't you just hate that?

See my response above Cawstick and stop jumping to conclusions!

QUOTE(El gofer @ Aug 24 2008, 12:43 AM) [snapback]499940[/snapback]
Can I join your p.m club please????

You really are the peepullz champ!

Of course you can. 'Mortonjag's p.m. club' was a term coined by another poster.

So far Mortonjag has given medical advice to almost twenty grateful posters, and is in regular communication with many well known 'behind the scenes' fans who share his views, encourage ongoing questions, and endorse pursuit of the truth at all times.

QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 24 2008, 12:52 AM) [snapback]499949[/snapback]
I agree with all of that.

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QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 24 2008, 03:31 AM) [snapback]500031[/snapback]
I can't really argue with that either, but at the same time, I would rather have MJ who at least is opinionated, than the folk who seem to have nothing to say for themselves other than abusing him for saying what he feels. Yes, he may go on a bit, but being over-opinionated is better than nothing.

It is a shame though, that a lot of the humour of the old boards seem to have disappeared for one reason or t'other. The thread about Geoffery Capes (I think, apparently looking like someones wife, I think!!) was spectacular, every post on it was hilarious smile.gif

There's actually much less abuse of Mortonjag nowadays by most posters who previously misunderstood the daft old doctor EM

What's happening now is that Mortonjag is getting regular sniping abuse from a relatively small number of bitter pro Rae activists. At least one of them-Mabawsa Ritchie-has, Mortonjag gathers, already been exposed. He is apparently the Office Manager at Cappielow who has access to Mortonjag's personal data, and who blatantly posted on P & B : 'he's NOT a doctor BTW'.

There are others-Spot Ton, Shimmin Ton, and Ron Number have nothing to contribute in real terms to our forum but regularly abuse the Jag. Mortonjag wonders who they are! ph34r.gif Russell's Muscles-the guy who published club insider information is lurking on the fringes again. Mortonjag will be keeping a watchful eye on the said weasel.

Those guys are NOT on our massage board as bona fide posters. See them for what they are! Expose the infiltrators! They don't like open questions being asked.


WHY?
mortonjag 2008-08-24 09:42:56
QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 24 2008, 09:24 AM) [snapback]500072[/snapback]
That reminds me of *careful, or I'll close down the Internet*'s rant against "Les Miserables, Donga Ton and Wild Bill Hickock".

But anyway, I think it will only take one good performance on Tuesday night to reignite the enthusiasm for this season.

However, I am really saddened to read Dundee fans claiming they didn't even play well yesterday and that we offered very little. The least I expect from our team is to make the other side have to work hard and play well to beat us. We could lose every game in a season but as long as the team were giving their all and making the opposition fight hard for the points I would always back the team. We need to be careful we don't slip back into the pattern of the first 2 thirds of last season and get stuck in a losing rut.

Really! I take it then that the said Hugh's Cot was telling the absolute truth!

If you want to make comments like that it would be helpful if you would indicate what you find in Mortonjag's post which brings you to liken it to the rant of a man whose motives were NOT in the Club's interests.

Just another wee dig at the Jag Stuart?

Oh-and Dundee were poor yesterday while we were MINCE!
mortonjag 2008-08-24 09:48:52
QUOTE(Russells Muscles @ Aug 23 2008, 09:36 PM) [snapback]499887[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Did Mr Rae ever find out you were publishing confidential club data on the forum. You are claiming the Mods know you -NOT what they told me. Tread carefully on those weasel paws.
mortonjag 2008-08-24 09:57:51
QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 24 2008, 09:45 AM) [snapback]500079[/snapback]
No, it's just that your comments were referring to people with weird names like "Russel's Muscles" which is just pretty funny. When you read in the paper *careful, or I'll close down the Internet* complaining about Wild Bill Hickock and Les Miserables that was quite funny too.

I didn't have you down as one of the infiltrators Stuart. Russell's Muscles, in case you didn't know, is the name of the so far unidentified Cappielow insider, who published confidential information about the Jag on this forum. At the time he scarpered like a singed stoat, but has again been making verminous squeaking noises. If he hangs around he'll eventually expose himself as those clowns are wont to do.
mortonjag 2008-08-24 10:12:43
QUOTE(Lifelongfan @ Aug 24 2008, 03:57 AM) [snapback]500043[/snapback]
OK another game played - another defeat. Facts: This time last season we had 7 points from the first three league games (and avoided the dreaded paly-offs by one very important goal) and this season we only have 2 points!
Looking at recent crowd trends at cappielow, I think that the message being sent is one that MFC is, if not in crisis yet, is certainly heading towards one!

What are everyone's thoughts as to the 'progress' we are making at our football club?

Where and when is the next victory going to come from?

Do you think that DI and DC are the guys to take us forward and upwards?

How much longer should Douglas Rae continue in his current role?

I believe we will finish mid table-probably fifth. I believe that crowds will continue to drop unless we start to play attractive football-that's the conundrum-Mr Rae has loaned as much of GC's dosh as he's willing/been allowed to and the club is stagnant.

With no more money and no players to sell on-I believe Jimbo has finally been exposed for what he's REALLY worth- the truth is dawning that success under Rae was inevitably going to be limited.

It's time to move on if we possibly can. Mr Rae will never see things realistically-he will always blame others for his own incompetence-but even he must see what's happening in fiscal terms.

What is the role of Alistair Donald? He's been a director for almost two months and still hasn't uttered a word.

I see Donkey Dave's keeking over the hedge again!


Any thoughts Dave? smile.gif smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-24 10:18:54
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 24 2008, 10:08 AM) [snapback]500093[/snapback]
I didn't choose to ignore it. I chose instead to go with what I saw with my own eyes on the thread, i.e. that he posted when others were unwilling to do so. Not being privy to PMs between you two I'd rather go with what I saw rather than what you're telling me.

The idea that you're primarily in this for self-aggrandisement is pretty compelling when you act as if you were somehow in possession of exclusive info in the form of a Companies House report that I would wager over a dozen posters here already held.

I don't know, but taking the credit for it after the fact - consistently and desperately - certainly fits the bill.
Speaking of right/wrong, what was I wrong about?

Haha, what? You brought the thread up, not me.
Wow, that's quite a scoop laugh.gif

I think your obsession with that 'bete noir' will be staring the majority of intelligent posters in the face Smegma.
mortonjag 2008-08-24 10:35:40
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 24 2008, 10:20 AM) [snapback]500097[/snapback]
OK.

Are you going to tell me what I said that was wrong on the AD thread, by the way? A yes or no will do. I don't have the time to indulge your 'high cycle' today unless it's going to concern me directly, so let me know please biggrin.gif

Everything you said was 'wrong' Smeggy, for the simple reason that you deliberately set out to discredit and cast doubt on Mortonjag's motives. You made a bit of a fool of yourself in pursuing your obsession, hoping for a big 'hit' The fact that you cannot back down on this particular issue is proof positive that your normally clear mind has been befuddled.

I invite you to state that you endorse Mortonjag's continuing pursuit of the truth.

QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Aug 24 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]500099[/snapback]
Lack of enthusiasm !!!!!!!!

When we were last in the first div, mid table, we had a fair team capable of giving anyone a good game, it was a pleasure to go to the Scappa with a lift in your step.

At the moment I go with trepidation,

Dundee Yesterday, the Defence has been firmed up, good move to move Shimmin into the middle.

Mid field,,,,,, Oh Dear all the players brought from Gretna, Marshmallows more like, soft centres, no fight, Couldn't win a ball in a raffle or tackle a fish supper,

Forwards ..........lets not go there............ but the do have the excuse ......no service.........

We see other teams passing the ball around,,,,,,,,,,we have done it on occassions in the past, why now is it the big lump up the park........and don't even look up first.

This is why we lack enthusiasm

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Oh and coming on here to the strains of Mortonjag

I defend his right to have opinions

But does he have to have so bloody many

Good!
mortonjag 2008-08-24 10:47:25
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Aug 23 2008, 05:30 PM) [snapback]499820[/snapback]
The worrying thing is that we have no settled line-up or formation. That was a problem last season too. And it has to be rectified quickly. Having no full-backs is killing us again. And I still don't think there's enough quality up top. There is no proper balance in the squad IMO, and we'll struggle because of that.

TBH I think we've only had 1 bad result in the league but we haven't had any good results. We cannot afford to lose next week if we don't want to put ourselves under alot of pressure.

The main problem IMO.

QUOTE(Ghost @ Aug 23 2008, 07:28 PM) [snapback]499835[/snapback]
I enjoyed the day out, with all the lads on the buses. But for the game, that was utter cack. If thats the best we have to throw on the park then im afraid we can look forward to a relegation battle.

Weatherson was utter mince imo.
Dear Mr Rae, any chance you could maybe give us this Quality over Quantity that was promised. Or are you just taking us all for a ride.
f***ing sort it out Morton, 2 points from 12 is pish.

Indeed!

QUOTE(Savo @ Aug 24 2008, 01:34 AM) [snapback]499970[/snapback]
Diabolical from start to finish - Morton were pathetic today.

Maybe the worst thing about it was that Dundee are quite clearly a shadow of the team they were last season. If that is all we have to offer we'd be as well chucking it.

More worryingly, St Johnstone's last two results expose the merit of our efforts against them the other week.

As for today, Weatherson at RB is a joke and sets alarm bells ringing as to the judgement of Collins & Irons.

Beyond that, the way we lost the goal would shame an under-10s BB team.

And that's after they spent the early part of the week watching DVDs of how not to defend v Livi.

Glad to see it worked and they were all paying attention to the basics, like how to pick runners up at set plays etc. Are they incapable of listening to simple instructions?

Going forward it was even worse: we offered nothing, aside from a feeble effort off a misjudged clearance.

One of the most depressing Morton games Ive been to for a long time.

Not good enough.

Many questions still unanswered. DI had to budget buy, but what he's bought is failing to gel, and we have no shape and no game plan if you discount a long ball to Wakey.

The main question for me is 'Is DI really that good'? Time will tell.

mortonjag 2008-08-24 10:58:13
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 24 2008, 10:38 AM) [snapback]500108[/snapback]
Can you give a specific example? A yes or no will do.

I will, if you wish, trawl that thread, and I WILL produce an answer, and you WILL be further exposed as self obsessed and vendetta pursuing.

In the spirit of answering loaded questions.

Do you endorse Mortonjag's ongoing pursuit of the truth?

A 'yes' or 'no' will suffice.
mortonjag 2008-08-24 11:08:40
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 24 2008, 11:04 AM) [snapback]500116[/snapback]
laugh.gif Hold on a minute - asking you to prove something that you stated is a loaded question?!

Please do trawl that thread, although given that you've already stated your conclusion (i.e. that I was wrong about "a lot of things") I foolishly imagined that you already had.
I endorse anyone's pursuit of the truth, so in that sense I say "yes."

Whether or not I approve of you or your methods is, of course, another matter entirely. Hint: generally it helps to seek evidence out before stating a conclusion, not the other way around. Your "pursuit" would be more successful if you kept these little basics in mind.

Good, I'm glad you've cleared that up.

Mortonjag's methods were successful.

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mortonjag 2008-08-24 17:16:45
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 24 2008, 02:49 PM) [snapback]500222[/snapback]
The lack of enthusiasm is very easliy explainable.
1) The players we have are not good enough. The point made by Foobs about the Gretna players is fair comment.
2) Irons is not the man to take us forward. If you are a scientist conducting experiments to prove a theory you do not carry out the same experiment 100 times expecting a different result each time.

I've felt comfortable enough up till now in the sense that I see us out of the relegation battle this season, but in terms of going forward I agree.

I said as soon as DI/DC arrived that their inability to progress under the current 'cash strapped' regime, might eventually lead to frustration, and that they might go much earlier that Mr Rae predicted.

Davie Irons frustration is already showing-he has started putting inappropriate blame on his players. Yesterday Newby may have made an error of judgement, but from behind the goals it looked more like an inspired save by Douglas. Newby has been left to carry the can for the failure to get a point.

Surely if Mr Irons REALLY wants to pinpoint blame, the utterly pathetic tackle by his makeshift right back which led to their first goal was FAR more culpable, and the REAL blame rests on the management for failing to sign a balanced squad.
mortonjag 2008-08-24 17:40:34
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Aug 24 2008, 01:34 PM) [snapback]500184[/snapback]
Hi MJ! wub.gif


Not guilty this time Anus! laugh.gif
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 24 2008, 02:31 PM) [snapback]500211[/snapback]
I totally agree with that.

I like the look of our defence and midfield but the strikers concern me. I don't think any of them are good enough to get you 15 - 20 goals over a season and that could be our downfall.

Our Goalkeepers also concern me but not as much as our strikers.

I couldn't agree less. Yesterday the size of Dens park was utterly wasted because we have no width. Our midfield was feckless in terms of initiative and supplying even a half decent pass, let alone holding the ball and developing play. It was a big long ball to Wakey and fingers crossed every time.

FFS I don't remember ONE decent cross into the box in the whole game. We don't have the best strikers in the league (as we're relatively skint) and we CERTAINLY don't have the worst.
mortonjag 2008-08-24 17:53:09


[quote name='vikingTON' date='Aug 24 2008, 03:49 PM' post='500267']
I specifically watched Weatherson and he lost his man, whetheer it was the goalscorer or not.
I thought Paton was Weatherson's man.

That's pretty obvious from a picture in today's Sunday Mail.
mortonjag 2008-08-24 18:03:46
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Aug 23 2008, 05:30 PM) [snapback]499820[/snapback]
The worrying thing is that we have no settled line-up or formation. That was a problem last season too. And it has to be rectified quickly. Having no full-backs is killing us again. And I still don't think there's enough quality up top. There is no proper balance in the squad IMO, and we'll struggle because of that.

TBH I think we've only had 1 bad result in the league but we haven't had any good results. We cannot afford to lose next week if we don't want to put ourselves under alot of pressure.

Indeed.

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 24 2008, 03:07 PM) [snapback]500227[/snapback]
Slightly disagree with you there Tonsilitis. With the players we have brought in we should be beating Clyde away and winning our home games against teams like Livingstone.
2 points from a possible 12 is relegation/playoff material. Granted we have a long way to go, but if we are still battling away with other teams at the foot of the table come Xmas, I believe we will be in a dog fight to avoid the playoff's again.

Looking at the squad DI has assembled, and even discounting the fact that it's so unbalanced, we should be picking up a fair share of points IMO.

I've now witnessed two successive displays of relative ineptitude on the park, and total lack of imagination/vision in the dugout.

Hopefully this is just a 'glitch'.
mortonjag 2008-08-24 18:10:42
QUOTE(Magic Mathie @ Aug 23 2008, 01:49 AM) [snapback]499466[/snapback]
Seing as how I've not been granted access to the fanny ventura forum now is a good time to tell you that I've just taken £3000 net out of the willie hill online casino and none of you feckers are getting a pint off me on Tuesday.

So up ye's tongue.gif

[center]ATTENTION...ATTENTION


MATHIE IS A TOP NOTCH POUFFE


LET HIM JOIN HIS BROTHERS
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mortonjag 2008-08-24 18:22:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 24 2008, 01:43 AM) [snapback]499979[/snapback]
time for chapter 1 please.

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I thought it would make a good story for posters to develop individually. blush.gif


Susan's secret would have horrified her parents-they had not the slightest inkling that their daughter's regular liaisons with the local fruiterer had little to do with his frequent gifts of provisions for the family's table........................................
mortonjag 2008-08-24 18:40:44
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 23 2008, 06:15 PM) [snapback]499827[/snapback]
One way you could look at it Tom. He could have persuaded more than a few Tories to vote SNP at the Glenrothes election by his comments.

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QUOTE(HamCam @ Aug 23 2008, 06:55 PM) [snapback]499833[/snapback]
Whether they admit it or not many folk in Scotland voted for Thatcher at the time the Tory bandwagon was in full swing. Even now many retain a grudging respect for the woman particularly down south. Ill judged comments though from Mr S when you consider the lasting damage the woman who is not for turning did to communities throughout Scotland.

What surprises me more is the reaction of a minority of posters particularly of the older generation to the current success of the SNP. At every turn some are grasping for any straw to have a go. Is it just that folk are having great difficulty in coming to terms with the current change in the political landscape in Scotland ? Whether you like it or not the SNP are perceived as being a credible party of government not something you could say of the party in power at Westminister. Mr S is also one of the most accomplished political performers around as is evident in the opinion polls. An opportunist yes but a leader voters are willing to believe in.

Despite the above comments I am yet to be convinced of the credibility and deliverability of the SNP's policies but I am willing to give them a chance. Just curious as to why others are not ?


I am most certainly willing to give the SNP a chance. That's why I despair every time I see that grotesque looking cartoonist's joy making yet another arse of himself,


mortonjag 2008-08-24 18:49:25
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 24 2008, 12:05 AM) [snapback]499919[/snapback]
I hate the whole concept of stereotypes.

In my experience there are 'good guys' and 'wanks' in every nationality, occupation, creed, colour and religion.

And the ratios don't seem to vary with each category.

Very true.

I never had you down as a 'good guy'! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-24 19:00:59
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 24 2008, 09:52 AM) [snapback]500083[/snapback]
The best things come to those that wait blush.gif

Any idea of the date yet Mr Rae?
mortonjag 2008-08-24 19:06:45
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 24 2008, 12:12 AM) [snapback]499923[/snapback]
Why on earth would someone buy biscuits with no pants on? huh.gif

Just a casual observation, that fanny looks like it's had a fair few boabys up it.

It does look somewhat 'lived in'.
mortonjag 2008-08-24 19:22:36
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 24 2008, 01:46 AM) [snapback]499981[/snapback]
You really will cringe when you read these in the morning. That's pure torture.
And written in pigeon English - magic !

"when he's flex his pex?"

It should be something like this ........

In an effort to try something new,
Spoonsy winked at the bold Paartalu,
He manoeuvred quite quickly,
Hopped on to his mickey,
And guided it into his flue.

TonInDublin

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Bold Eric quoth 'Spoonsy, you're gay-
I like it the old fashioned way,
But do as you will-
You've practised that skill
To sook up to old Mr Rae
mortonjag 2008-08-24 19:43:16 If we accept that paedophilia is an illness, then, by definition, we accept it as being beyond the control of its sufferer in exactly the way that we accept schizophrenia, says Carol Sarler in 'The Times'.

I imagine many posters can't get their head round paedophilia as an illness. Let's face it the poor pouffes even get a hard time on this forum, but it's generally agreed among specialists that paedophiles are ill.

How should they be treated?

Should we simply chemically castrate them-indeed just chop off their bollocks?

Should we put them behind bars and fling away the key.

I don't have the answer.

I'm sure many of you have your own theories.


mortonjag 2008-08-24 20:35:58
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 24 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]500406[/snapback]
Chop em aff with a rusty hacksaw blade..........in the town square for everyone to see ! mad.gif

laugh.gif Any reason why it has to be rusty?

QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Aug 24 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]500418[/snapback]
lock them up with hard labour for life, along with the pouffes and liberals thumbup2.gif ohmy.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-24 20:38:38
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 24 2008, 07:46 PM) [snapback]500393[/snapback]
Midweek.

PS: I'm now up to lasting for 2mins 40secs rolleyes.gif

Well TBH I built in an extra 20secs for the foreplay blush.gif

Come again!
mortonjag 2008-08-24 20:43:54
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 24 2008, 06:53 PM) [snapback]500368[/snapback]
Aye, he is making such an arse of things his party are miles ahead in the polls, his own personal popularity cannot be rivaled by anyone here in Scotland.
His party just had a 22% swing to take a strong Labour seat (with a good possibility of taking another one rolleyes.gif )

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laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Oh FFS grow up Spurtle-Shell Suit Bob's more popular than that leering buffoon!
mortonjag 2008-08-24 21:00:15
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 24 2008, 07:23 PM) [snapback]500381[/snapback]
Whit?
The touchlines at Dens are ridiculously contracted to force sides to play narrow I'm sure there'll be photos for those who didn't attend)
I agree that we lack any form of consistent wide play but yestersay was never going to be a great opportunity to demonstrate that, or otherwise.
I don't think we can judge Russell when the service is abysmal and - the key issue IMO - there is absolutely no midfield support to help him out.
Wake's strong enough to hold up play, but Russell is losing the ball because we cannot play effectively as a team.

Perspective is indeed a strange thing. I merely said that the size of the pitch was not used to advantage. Dens park is NOT narrower than average. If you've any stats to prove that it is , I'd like to see them.
mortonjag 2008-08-24 21:27:56
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 24 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]500448[/snapback]
I don't believe it can be cured. Chemical castration seems the most humane option. But to be honest, the rusty hacksaw seems quite tempting......

I agree, and if they are ill, we should surely attempt to treat them humanely. The innocent have to be protected.
mortonjag 2008-08-24 21:30:44
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 24 2008, 09:15 PM) [snapback]500444[/snapback]
Indeed as my recovery time is now down to three hours tongue.gif

My advice is to keep her guessing at the first date. By all means stick a baking potato inside your pants!
mortonjag 2008-08-24 21:33:13
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 24 2008, 08:16 PM) [snapback]500410[/snapback]
You've given a toe-job ? unsure.gif

male or female toes ?

In my experience the most common cause of athlete's f*nny.
mortonjag 2008-08-24 21:36:54
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 24 2008, 09:17 PM) [snapback]500445[/snapback]
Maybe in MJ land, but what you suggest is not reality. Sorry to dissapoint you but Salmond is the popular leader of a popular party.

You don't win by-elections from your main political rivals wiping out a 13,500 majority by being a buffoon.

It was Margaret Curran, Spurtle!
Talk about taking candy from a baby! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-24 21:40:40
QUOTE(capitanus @ Aug 24 2008, 09:35 PM) [snapback]500458[/snapback]
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Who's running the turnstile at Firhill? Jonathan King by any chance??

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mortonjag 2008-08-25 06:43:15
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Aug 24 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]500474[/snapback]
Do you think that they set the team out with the intention of just booting it back to front? Nervous defenders and lack of a visible midfield have caused that to be one of our only options so far this season. We need the guys in the middle of the park to take a little bit of responsibility to improve the overall play of the team, and I guess that's where the management team have failed. With proper supply, the 3 guys up top would be knocking in goals, of that I have little doubt, but it's not really happened so far this season.

Irons cannot be totally blamed for lack of effort/form on the pitch.

QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Aug 24 2008, 10:37 PM) [snapback]500479[/snapback]
To be honest after watching the team this season I think the team McInally had on the park was far better to watch than the team Iron's has assembled.
We seem to have lost all the creative players we had, Stevenson, Miller, Jimbo is a shadow of himself. I was never a fan of Scott McLaughlin, in fact I thought he was poor, but he wasn't afraid to shout for the ball and show some leadership on the park and try and do something. I'm beginning to think Irons told MacGregor he could go because he can pass a ball 10 yards and is not into cloud football.
In their place we have guys who huff and puff but never seem to be able to blow the house down. None of them actively get involved in the game. They are content to wait until the ball lands at their feet. Or usually somewhere from the neck upwards given DI tactics of the big punt, before getting involved in the action. I watched Jenkins for a while on Saturday and he was totally ineffective. He just ran around pointing to other players looking as though he was doing something. I think flatter to deceive would be the term.
The only player who went about his business in a professional way was Shimmin who must be wondering what he has let himself in for given how bad we played. But even he offered nothing more than he needed to to get by.
We couldn't string two passes together.
I do hope Irons gets it right but he needs some leadership on the park. He needs someone who will calm everybody down take the ball at his feet and do the simple thing, and I exclude from that the obligatory Morton punt.

We need to see some football, I've seen under 18s making a better attempt to play football than our current squad.
To be honest, the thought of going to watch that week in week out and paying for the privilege when I can watch it in a public park for free doesn't bode well for an exciting season.

Measles-you have amazed me! I agree with just about all of that.

QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 25 2008, 12:52 AM) [snapback]500499[/snapback]
You seem to have a major problem with the "TTG mob"? You might not have liked the way we went about it but were we not wrong in doubting the previous incumbent's credentials ohmy.gif????? Surely whether we love or loathe David Irons' we're better off with him than we were with Jim?

Snake face is a teacher,Toby. I'd imagine he sees you as unruly children. Teachers are like that yet half of them have failed to grow up themselves.

QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 25 2008, 02:05 AM) [snapback]500505[/snapback]
I only thought that there was a swell of opinion towards the TTG when it was clear McInally had become a liability ( I can hear you saying that was at Peterhead 2 seasons previous )

Feck I'm surprised DDFR hasn't still got the flags at half mast .

Irons is still building a team that isin't finished , he probably knows this as much as the next person but if you have to go with a small squad you'll always find coaches airing on the side of caution.

I don't know what to make of it all so far. From the word 'go' he talked about being on a budget. Whether he or Mr Rae was behind the apparently ridiculous wage rises and contract extensions to existing players seems unclear. Going on past history I CANNOT believe DI could/would have done that without explicit encouragement from the Chairman.

Anyhow-he promised a small squad of 'quality' players, and in so doing stuck to the only system he seems to understand-big, strong, and direct. Once things settle down, injuries clear up, and the squad gels, we'll pull away in this division. I don't fear relegation.

I see DI/DC as intelligent men who will hopefully learn quickly-don't forget they are relative rookies in the management stakes. Coaching seems to be good, but they have to become more tactically aware and with the existing squad their options are VERY limited.

The January transfer window may prove very interesting indeed. By then the management will have had PLENTY of time to clear their heads and establish priorities. If required funding is not forthcoming I will not be blaming Irons and Collins.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 07:03:05 Something which has irritated me immensely in the last few seasons has been a common attitude to cup competitions. Partick's current success is in no small measure down to last season's successful cup run.

We desperately need money.

Should we fail to progress tomorrow night, I expect again to hear folk claiming that they 'are glad to have the distraction of that 'Diddy Cup' out of the way, so that we can 'concentrate on the League'. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-25 07:12:20
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 24 2008, 08:43 PM) [snapback]500430[/snapback]
Eck Salmond is limited in intellect, vision, integrity and conviction. In fact he possesses all the qualities necessary for a successful career in politics. He is a model of 'The Prince'; we can all rest assured that he won't let political principles get in the way of self aggrandisement.

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QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 25 2008, 01:03 AM) [snapback]500501[/snapback]
Who said he was clever? He'll unravel sooner or later......like all snakes do.
Aye, and Tory Boy Cameron is a model of The Dunce. laugh.gif

Snakes uncoil Mr Edwards-there is a difference. They are also regularly wont to change their skins! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-25 07:15:30
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 24 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]500457[/snapback]
You mean the types that piss and puke in the street and 'lift up their kilts' to women passers by.

I thought Spurtle had reformed!
mortonjag 2008-08-25 07:22:55
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 25 2008, 02:20 AM) [snapback]500507[/snapback]
Does chemical castration not, have to be voluntary if it were an illness you could lock them up indefinitely until you find a cure ?
Were going with the rusty hacksaw , I know it ...

That can be changed! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-25 07:27:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 25 2008, 07:22 AM) [snapback]500527[/snapback]
Tomorrow night is not the Diddy Cup.

Don't we play QOTS in the Diddy Cup ?

Or am I pissed again ?

It is 4.22 pm

It is 7.26 a.m. Newt-I'd say that makes you well pissed again! laugh.gif


The Challenge cup is the Diddy Diddy Cup-known affectionately as the Playtex Cup.

The CIS cup has regularly been rubbished by our posters over the last few years!
mortonjag 2008-08-25 07:59:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 25 2008, 07:18 AM) [snapback]500526[/snapback]
has he got a quarter pounder or a big mac ?

with wrinkly chips ?

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I had him down as Quorn haggis.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 08:09:35
QUOTE(dazed @ Aug 25 2008, 08:02 AM) [snapback]500534[/snapback]
I would volunteer to be the hangman for these B******* , They should have chucked Glitter out the plane on the way back.

Worse crime on the planet betraying the trust of a child.

Indeed!


MILLIONS THE TINY TASTY CHEWY SWEET




(Signed Tubby Toothless).
mortonjag 2008-08-25 08:45:57
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 22 2008, 12:06 PM) [snapback]498876[/snapback]
Thanx, Bryan.

You may see Mr Donald at the Dundee match.

NOPE!
mortonjag 2008-08-25 08:52:14
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Aug 25 2008, 08:39 AM) [snapback]500539[/snapback]
It's probably been rubbished as we always seem to be knocked out early doors....This is the furtherest we achieved in this competition in donkey years.

If we were to get a result tomorrow I'm sure the groundswell of opinion would change, but at the end of the day we are not expected too and a decent performance will do for me.

BTW- how much did Partick make in the CIS cup last season?

I haven't actual figures to hand (they are easily got) but they effectively wrote off their total debt as a result of that cup run, which you will re-call saw them play Rangers twice.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 08:57:30
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 25 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]500543[/snapback]
I maybe shouldn't comment as I've only seen the Midden game this season, but I suspect we are now seeing what an influential player Chris Miller was. We have more height and physical strength, which were lacking for most of last season and many seasons before that, but I think we may have gone too far in the other direction. I wouldn't be surprised to see Jamie back after Xmas, although Alloa aren't doing too well so maybe he is actually rubbish after all.

Much of the problem with our poor results (and we're only losing by a single goal when we lose) is that we don't have a really good striker. Sort that and we'll win 3-2 instead of losing 2-1.

If you had been to the recent games I think you'd have noticed that even the best striker in the world would have been hard pressed to score. The supply has been nothing short of abysmal, and nothing comes from the wings.

We have FAR greater priorities than yet another striker.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 09:06:16
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 25 2008, 08:41 AM) [snapback]500540[/snapback]
I should maybe have said that the existence of the OF tends to distort matters somewhat - most people are exposed to press and TV stories about the OF from the moment they are born, which is why they have so many so-called "supporters" who have never been to a game. What it means is that the OF are not local to any area in the same way that Morton or St Mirren or Montrose are.

Regarding your last paragraph, I agree in part but that might be overcome if our parliament had sufficient powers, i.e. full independence. I would suggest that the current government is a lot less divisive than the last lot, although despite being a member of the SNP, I disagree strongly with their lack of a policy to get rid of ALL faith schools and remove religion from the education system, while enshrining the right of total freedom to choose your own religious pursuits as you so wish - i.e. leave religion to churches and leave education to schools. That is the single most prominent issue on which I disagree with SNP policy (although I'm not sure if it is actually party policy or just Alex Salmond's own view...)

I agree wholeheartedly, and Bawheid's giving the nod to a planned Muslim school in Glasgow demonstrates the depths he will plumb to catch a bigger swatch of the electorate. Faith schools are per se, divisive. Capitanus is correct about Catholics being hated, and failed to add that in turn they hate the perceived 'haters'.

Irrespective of all that, booing a National Anthem was IMO childish.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 09:09:21
QUOTE(Rossi @ Aug 25 2008, 08:59 AM) [snapback]500547[/snapback]

Bawheid will want him stripped of his medals! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-25 09:38:55
QUOTE(RankinBorn75 @ Aug 25 2008, 09:33 AM) [snapback]500553[/snapback]
But he did say this .. which makes no sense he doesnt even know if he is a Scottish or British athlete ...

"For him to call for a Scottish Olympic team at this stage is ridiculous. I wouldn't have three gold medals hanging round my neck if I wasn't part of the British team. I'm a Scottish athlete in a British team, and I'm proud to be a British athlete.

Plus I dont think such things should be decided by a guy who is basiclly a glorified Mamster !!

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WTF is that, and are you referring to Hoy or Bawheid?
mortonjag 2008-08-25 09:43:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 25 2008, 09:41 AM) [snapback]500560[/snapback]
Did Salmond not take his degree at a proper university ?

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Born in Linlithgow, West Lothian, Salmond is the son of Robert Fyfe Findlay Salmond and the late Mary Stewart Salmond (nee Milne), both of whom were civil servants. Salmond attended Linlithgow Academy [1] and the University of St Andrews, where he graduated with an MA in Economics and History. He was first employed as an assistant economist in the Department of Agriculture and Fisheries for Scotland from 1978.

Mr Salmon! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-25 09:47:30
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 25 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]500562[/snapback]
Why can a lassie not get to Heaven in a Playtex bra ?

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I don't know Newt-I remember they were described as living bras!
mortonjag 2008-08-25 10:14:29
QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Aug 24 2008, 03:24 PM) [snapback]500248[/snapback]
Yes, you should feel dirty.

My take on Dundee's goal yesterday was that it was more down to the keeper's positioning rather than Weatherson's marking, as he took the stick for it which didn't seem fair. Neither of our goalkeepers are top quality but I'd by far, rather we had either of the two we have now, in goal than Robinson who was joke - end of.

Going by each of our goalkeepers histories, I'd probably rather we stuck with Cuthbert than switched back to Stewart.

I thought it was a well executed set piece with nobody really to blame.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 10:18:42
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Aug 25 2008, 08:55 AM) [snapback]500545[/snapback]
Steady on now MJ , we wouldn't want to ruin our reputations would we.

I can tell you now Irons was given a budget and he was the one who blew it, for once DDFR stood back and let the manager do the job. Just a pity he made an arse of it because sadly DDFR will probably not allow that to happen again.

Very true Measles. Are you perchance 'His master's voice'? laugh.gif

QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 25 2008, 09:48 AM) [snapback]500568[/snapback]
sorted as below ...

The best!
mortonjag 2008-08-25 10:21:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 25 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]500569[/snapback]
A Playtex bra won't stretch that far.

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It was also described as the Collie Bra-rounded them up and pointed them in the right direction.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 10:27:13
QUOTE(big B @ Aug 25 2008, 10:07 AM) [snapback]500578[/snapback]
Over to you Jim McColl according to to you at the Q&A session in Port Glasgow town hall this is your remit on the board so can you please answer the opening post.

Wrong forum!

QUOTE(Mags @ Aug 25 2008, 10:14 AM) [snapback]500581[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Aug 25 2008, 10:07 AM) [snapback]500578[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Over to you Jim McColl according to to you at the Q&A session in Port Glasgow town hall this is your remit on the board so can you please answer the opening post.

Forgot about him....didn't know he was still involved with the youth set up.....if he ever was...!
Mags

Wrong forum again!

Perhaps Mr McColl is currently out of the country pursuing an answer to a question the Trust claims it asked a long time ago! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-25 10:38:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 25 2008, 10:29 AM) [snapback]500595[/snapback]
A Texan and his wife were on a trip to New York.

She had just finished showering to dress for dinner and noticed that she had neglected to pack her bra.

She asked her husband to go down to the dress shop in the lobby and pick up a couple of 38-C bras.

He said, "Ah'l go down raht now."

So he put on his ten gallon hat and went to the shop.

The saleslady said, "May I help you, sir?"

When he told her that he wanted two 38-C bras, she asked, "Would you like two Playtex?"

He answered, "Ah'd luv ta little lady, but mah wife's a'waitin fur me up in the room."

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I won't let the door hit my fanny on the way out.



I presume he then went West in the quest for the mighty braphor!
mortonjag 2008-08-25 10:44:40
QUOTE(leyTON @ Aug 25 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]500598[/snapback]
me and my mates were talkng about this.
if someone approached a medical proffesional and said, i have tehse feelings, i havent acted on them, i dont want to, please help me, what would the correct course of action be?

That's slightly simplistic. He'd presumably agree to be referred for psychological assessment. If a definite diagnosis of paedophilia was established, he could be offered a variety of treatments including hormonal therapy (chemical castration).
mortonjag 2008-08-25 10:52:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 25 2008, 10:41 AM) [snapback]500604[/snapback]
for those who remember Playtex ...
http://www.girdlezone.org/paleblue.htm

Sometimes, I think I've spent my life since then looking for the girl in the pale blue girdle.


Try Spoonsy!
mortonjag 2008-08-25 10:57:29
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 25 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]500607[/snapback]
I don't understand the gag. What has 1914 got to do with it? Did the Australians not fight along Great Britain in the war?
Can someone explain?

F*CK 1914


2008

WHERE ARE YOU SUN? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-25 11:04:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 25 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]500599[/snapback]
Perhaps he went to one of the many Ton youth matches instead ?

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Pittodrie?
mortonjag 2008-08-25 11:06:38
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 25 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]500617[/snapback]
Being well educated, doesn't make some one's thoughts on this subject correct unsure.gif

I have met many a well educated man, who thoughts on many a subject are up his anus

Educated arseholes? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-25 11:12:31
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Aug 25 2008, 11:08 AM) [snapback]500624[/snapback]
As Paedophilia is regarded by many medical experts to be an incurable illness there is only one option left and that’s the noose.

Hang every one of them high.
No f***ing about trying to dissect their warped mentality, attempting to cure them by cutting off parts of the anatomy or surgery on the brain, no torture beforehand just f***ing hang them.

Why the f*** should tax payers keep these b*****ds alive, I wish at times we lived in a more draconian society were it would be accepted that Paedophiles do not deserve to live.

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Ok Barbie-what's sauce for the goose-let's massacre every diabetic in the country and give the savings to Dougie Rae. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-25 11:15:16
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 25 2008, 11:13 AM) [snapback]500631[/snapback]
I like this attitude.
Am all for it. Hang the c***s

......draw the POUFFES and quarter the bi-sexuals! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-25 11:31:48
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 25 2008, 11:24 AM) [snapback]500650[/snapback]
Just shoot the pouffes.

Shotgun, pistol, Kalashnikov, cannon?
mortonjag 2008-08-25 14:31:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 25 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]500589[/snapback]
Gidday Spotty,

Why the use of the adverb ?

Are you trying to put MJ off the scent ?

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mortonjag 2008-08-25 14:38:05
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 24 2008, 03:09 PM) [snapback]500230[/snapback]
£30 on petrol to Dundee? You driving a tank?? unsure.gif

With petrol at damned near a fiver a gallon that's 32m.p.g-- hardly gas guzzler stuff!
mortonjag 2008-08-25 14:45:16
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 25 2008, 02:34 PM) [snapback]500764[/snapback]
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I was using the concession gate as an example as to why your 'correct change machines' would not work. £9 is almost a tenner....9/10 people would turn up with a tenner if it was £9 to get in rather than have the correct change.

If you can't see that point then there is not much else I can say

Whether his idea would work or not I don't know Pugglet but your idea is typically woolly headed.

Give up the first twenty minutes-aye right-oh wait-you get a free pie and bovril-YUM YUM, AND a bag of Millions rejects and a copy of last week's left over programme signed by Cappie the Cat.

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mortonjag 2008-08-25 14:52:45
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 25 2008, 02:42 PM) [snapback]500770[/snapback]
The facts you've used about the points garnered so far from four games out of thirty-six, compared to last season's tally after three, can't be argued with. It has been a disappointing start to the season in the league, but we've only played four matches. As has been pointed out, we've played three of the sides who are going to be up there challenging, St Johnstone, Livvy (yeah really) and Dundee. Morton handled themselves well against the Saints and were capable of drawing with the Lions in the second half, despite being mediocre and defending poorly!

To the attendances. Lets be honest here, nobody is interested in the Renfrewshire Cup Final as much any more, so I'm not going to count that, and Mr Rae shouldn't have read so much into it either IMO. So we are getting all gloomy over the attendances at two league matches. Calling it a crisis when August is still to be completed is a joke! We had two and a half thousand home fans at the Livingston match, definitely more than were at the St Johnstone match the previous week, their away support was about 400 and meant we had a higher overall attendance. I think Mr Rae is kidding himself if he thinks we will improve on that many times this year, 3500 is what we'll get at most if we hit midtable form. More if we draw a big team in the Scottish Cup. The finances of most people can't be stretched to paying £14-£16 to watch an average team right now, I think most hardcore fans accept that.

In my opinion, Irons will prove to be our best manager since Allan McGraw, if we give him time. I'm not saying several years, give him this season to show he knows how to take us up a few places from last year. I am confident we'll be sitting in 5th or 6th come the middle of May. He is capable of taking us on to the next level after that too, which is the top half of this division. Premier League football, is, at best, three years away for me.

It seems to be me that Mr Rae is flirting with the idea of pushing the Club in Alistair Donald's direction, but the guy isn't biting! He is here for at least another two or three seasons I reckon. He'll know how close we are to promotion in 2011 and only sell up if we win the final SFL title yet to be achieved with him as Chairman! He'll have taken us from the very bottom league to the very top league, he hopes and we hope!

It seems to me that perhaps Mr Rae 'has blown it' with Mr Donald who is now plainly disinterested and 'signed in' only when he could finally be arsed! I imagine he's just laughing quietly in the background as the old dodder digs himself deeper into his own s*** with every progressing week.

By the way BUG-how did the e-mail to the Tilly go?
mortonjag 2008-08-25 15:06:45
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Aug 25 2008, 02:40 PM) [snapback]500769[/snapback]
Mags, it's been said on here over and over and by Jim McColl himself, the manager is responsible for the youth setup.

So if people think the youth set up is rubbish they need to take it up with the man who is responsible, David Irons and before him Jim McInally.
Jim McColl looked after the youth budget and that was his only link to the youth set up.

Hey Measles-that's twice today you've pronounced on internal club affairs.

I have a question for you-well three actually:

When is your master going to publish a statement of intent?


When is Mr Donald going to reply to the Trust's letter?


Which do you prefer- Pedigree Chum, or Kennomeat?

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mortonjag 2008-08-25 15:10:31
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 25 2008, 03:03 PM) [snapback]500776[/snapback]
Not heard anything back JAG, was hoping that at worst it would get cut heavily and the jist would appear in the Fans Forum! laugh.gif

Hmm-keep us posted-I certainly know of others who intend to write/have written about various issues. I sincerely hope Mr Rae endorses free speech! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-25 15:14:02
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 25 2008, 03:09 PM) [snapback]500778[/snapback]
Well I'm quite a woolly headed individual if I grow my hair out smile.gif
Did you read my post at all or just take the other guys? My example was a pie, bovril, a tenner and free entry to the game...not just a pie and bovril. Please read everything first before you go on your all so expected, yet never funny, sarcastic little diatribes. rolleyes.gif

I'm highly impressed with that young man!



Edit: Having read that again, it was still rather poor-I was initially taken in by the big words you've been learning. Watch out or the Viking will get jealous, and he's not a man to meddle with! laugh.gif

Tell me what age those greedy tenner mercenaries will be Puggs?

Remember that those days most folk under thirty can't count, let alone construct a decent sentence in their native tongue. mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-25 15:24:48
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 25 2008, 03:17 PM) [snapback]500782[/snapback]
Colin Stewart is a s***e goalie. The problem is that Kevin Cuthbert is looking like he will be as well.

I'd much rather have the Lee Robinson that appeared towards the end of the season than either of them.



You may be correct. Why have we signed two sh*te goalies. Do goalies not count towards the small squad of quality players?
mortonjag 2008-08-25 15:36:30
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 25 2008, 01:13 PM) [snapback]500716[/snapback]
I would recommend JH Christ as a good joiner but he's probably more of a carpenter. Not sure if he's currently in Greenock but I believe if you call on him he will come.

I believe his father lives in the West end.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 15:38:16
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 25 2008, 11:45 AM) [snapback]500674[/snapback]
correctamundo

RIP

Oh Dear-our thoughts are with the family.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 15:40:21
QUOTE(Rossi @ Aug 25 2008, 12:26 PM) [snapback]500692[/snapback]
The point I was realy trying to make is that Salmond likes to jump on the back of a winning team. You can bet your bottom dollar that when Scotland's World Cup campiagn starts to faulter you won't see him within a mile of Hampden.

As for a Scottish team being able to put in a team of 90-100, I just can't see that happening. All sports have a qualifying standard that must be reached, although emerging nations are allowed the occassional athlete to participate.

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I'm sure Spurtle will vigorously deny that!
mortonjag 2008-08-25 15:45:00
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 25 2008, 11:27 AM) [snapback]500653[/snapback]
Shocking...
I wear my kilt with pride. I take it every arab is a tranny tae?

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I can just see you Sean-giving those POUFFE Dutch boys pelters in your skirt with furry purse!
mortonjag 2008-08-25 15:56:24
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Aug 25 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]500686[/snapback]
Unless its a diabetic Paedo, I suspect the diabetic is not commiting the most horrific crimes on those we are supposed to protect the most.

Hang them

Whom are we to hang-convicted paedos, self confessed non practising paedos, folk who happen to look like paedos?


QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 25 2008, 02:10 PM) [snapback]500750[/snapback]
Spelling was never my strong point, but who cares.

My point was, your views on such subjects are more likely to change once you have had kids. You may not believe it now, but I promise you, they will.

Annoying? I maybe, but so are you, its all down to points of view

You PROMISE Sean. I'm pretty certain that Paedos ARE somebody's kids, and a large percentage don't get involved in Glitter type depravity.

It's a psychological illness- a bit like wearing a tartan skirt and protesting homophobia! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-25 16:06:30
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 25 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]500809[/snapback]
McGurn was a much better keeper than he gets credit for, and would have became an even better one under the tutelage of Wylie. Let's face it, if the Cat can make Robinson look half-decent, what could he do with a guy that was actually good to start with???
We desperately need another goalie, the last properly good one we had was Matt Boswell.

I never thought Davie McGurn was too bad. The rot started when Mathers arrived. I was happy to have an experienced goalie at the time, but McGurn never got back into the frame.

Robinson blew hot and cold-he was a bit of a showman who could make simple saves look world class-I NEVER had any confidence in his command of the box, or communication with defenders.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 16:22:56
QUOTE(cmdc @ Aug 25 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]500811[/snapback]
But football chairmen aren't anything like players and managers. It isn't as simple as one leaves and plenty more are out there waiting for their chance to take over. There are precious few people willing to invest in football and even fewer willing to pour their money benevolently into a black hole. Add to that we are a club of limited potential in a country whose football is hardly a wise investment, in the midst of what is a huge economic downturn.

To say 'time to go' to the Raes is meaningless unless there is an alternative option,
as there was when Wilson left, and again when Scott bailed.

That is true, and that is why I want to know where Alistair Donald fits the big picture. The Raes have never poured their money benevolently into a black hole. They have lent money to a club WITH POTENTIAL, and after seven years seem to have taken it as far as they can.

Furthermore, they have made no attempt to look at the long term viability of the club. What's the point in some Mickey Mouse share issue spread over five years when there is a pig headed refusal to entertain a proper youth policy?

OK-we still get to see football at Cappielow, and that is down to the Rae family.

IF there is a potential investor lurking, I believe there is no time like the present to encourage him, rather than frighten him off.

IF there is a potential investor lurking, Mr Rae should, IMO, quit when he's still up. The current trend of dropping crowds and increasing fan unease is a sure indicator that he's 'peaked'.

We have an important cup tie tomorrow night. We should all be buzzing, yet you can virtually hear a pin drop.

Why is that? I'm CERTAINLY not blaming the 'negativity boys'!
mortonjag 2008-08-25 17:07:16
QUOTE(TCox @ Aug 25 2008, 04:35 PM) [snapback]500831[/snapback]
Irons is the man. What degree of freedom he has to run the footballing side of the club effectivley is a question of more concern to me.

Why do you say that?
mortonjag 2008-08-25 17:15:50
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 25 2008, 05:10 PM) [snapback]500849[/snapback]
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That line line would be the "see you Jimmy" wig in my book.

Correct McArthur-a couple of thousand c*nts wanting to introduce 'Blind Date' just ain't funny at all.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 17:21:58
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 25 2008, 04:35 PM) [snapback]500830[/snapback]
Its very weird to read that bit, a guy planning to bomb Greenock, and the whole point of my thread.



If this guy is still alive I think we should have him extradited and roasted alive on a spit in the Bullring, to 'Theme from the Dambusters'.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 17:29:29
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 25 2008, 05:17 PM) [snapback]500854[/snapback]
Yup - good post.

How did you get on with the Nacho-hunt? laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-25 17:31:11
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 25 2008, 05:23 PM) [snapback]500860[/snapback]
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I missed this, but I'm afraid I'm a one woman/man man and currently I have about 9 people after me.

About 10.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 17:56:48
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 25 2008, 05:48 PM) [snapback]500872[/snapback]
My point was if you'd lived through the blitz, you would gladly kick this guys arse.

Now twist it any way you want, that was the point. I would put £100 on the table that if the question was asked of 100 Greenockians the night after blitz, all would say yes.

Debate all you want the rights or wrongs of war, but if Peter Stahl jumped out his plane after blowing your maw and paw to bits, you'd do more than kick his arse

Sean, you're very angry about something those days! laugh.gif

I've often discussed the Blitz with my parents. By the time we were growing up they had already come to terms with 'the past' Some of the stories my Mum told me are harrowing-it would be easy to be bitter, but at the end of the day, Stahl was a young German serving his country to the best of his ability, just as our boys did ours.

That is all.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 18:02:40
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 25 2008, 05:58 PM) [snapback]500881[/snapback]
Just my usual grumpy self..it happens when you have teenage waines rolleyes.gif

I can fix them for you! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-25 18:12:06
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Aug 25 2008, 05:51 PM) [snapback]500874[/snapback]
Thats just f***ing daft, I have cleary said that Paedo's should be hung, not some c*** who is depressed.
Your first two would suffice, anyone convicted and any c*** who confesses.

Hang the high.

Do you profess that their 'disease' is curable? I think you know the answer to that one.

It's no more curable than, for example alcoholism.

Some of the crimes committed while under the influence of alcohol are pretty horrendous. In social terms the detrimental effects of alcohol abuse make paedophilia-real or imagined-pale into insignificance.

It's in us all to enjoy a witch hunt Barbie. Trouble is that witch hunts almost invariably scar the innocent and the guilty.

If an individual paedophile re-offends after refusing treatment, by all means mince him, can him , and send him to feed starving weans in wherever they're starving.

Please stop tarring all with the same brush-it's like saying that all football club chairmen are 77 year old blithering idiots.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 18:24:02
QUOTE(Ghost @ Aug 25 2008, 06:03 PM) [snapback]500885[/snapback]
MJ, my dad told me some stuff about Dunoon during the war, they used to find some amount of s*** washed up on the beaches etc. Think the bits ref taking the michael out of the local Bobby during the lights out was quite funny.

My Mum lived in Bawhirley Road then. The worst thing that happened was an incendiary bomb landing in their back garden. They got a helluva fright but were not cremated.

Can you imagine that nowadays-they'd all be off work for six months and referred for bloody counselling!

The whole tenement close next to my Uncle Jimmy's in Belville St. was blown to pieces one night. For years it was just a big gaping hole between the other closes and there was a bomb crater in the waste ground below. I used to go to Jimmy's for my tea before the Ton evening matches in the sixties and early seventies. He often talked about the war-there was sadness but never any bitterness.

....Those days are gone now, and in the past they must remain!
mortonjag 2008-08-25 18:26:54
QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 25 2008, 06:16 PM) [snapback]500890[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-08-25 18:34:30
QUOTE(Ghost @ Aug 25 2008, 06:26 PM) [snapback]500897[/snapback]
From what i was told, the kids used to search the beaches even though they were off limits. They were looking for bits from ships, planes that were shot down, tins of grub unopened etc. Said they had a great time when they were kids. They also watched the blitz ( my fathers side ) from across the river. At nights when the curfew or lights out was in operation they used to smother shop door handles in dogs s*** as the local bobby would go round every night checking everything was locked. Some kids also found boxes of grenades that had either fallen off a truck or just left behind by mistake by troops training etc. The only reason they were found out is when the local bobby went into Dunoon Grammar school asking where one of the grenades had went to, as they found the box but one was missing. One young lad aparently hid it in his dads piss pot under the bed laugh.gif

They were quite posh if they used chanties like the one below.

Most families just used a pail-what would now be described as a bucket (as per Oor Wullie).
mortonjag 2008-08-25 18:43:46
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 25 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]500903[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-08-25 19:10:15
QUOTE(Cawston @ Aug 25 2008, 07:00 PM) [snapback]500911[/snapback]
With the transfer window close to being wedged shut for another few months do you think we'll see some more activity at Scappa?

Ideal scenario is some headcase thinks McAnespie is worth a gamble and we ship him out, can't see it though.

Even if no-one is moved out I have a feeling we might still see 1 or 2 additions.

That would certainly lift flagging spirits.

I can't help feeling we're lumped with what we have till January.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 19:17:22
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 25 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]500918[/snapback]
I'll judge DI and DC at the end of the season. Not before.

This is more of a general point here......folk in football are too quick to judge managers these days (Spurs in crisis? aye right) and it's rarely done anyone any good. Of course there are examples when it becomes very clear very quickly that managers aren't suited to a club (Brian Clough at Leeds is a good example), but time has to be given for teams to take shape and settle in. I'll certainly be a lot more happy once DI and DC have fully made their own mark on the squad.

I just wonder if DDFR will be as patient with these two as he was with McInally.

That's the wrong way round! rip.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-25 19:20:12
QUOTE(Cawston @ Aug 25 2008, 07:17 PM) [snapback]500923[/snapback]
Listening to Irons it sounds like his hands are tied, however we've heard similar stuff coming from Sacppa at previous windows only to go and sign a couple of players at the last minute.

I also think the poor start in the league will have a few arses twitching.

Couple of full backs to boost the defence, or maybe a tried and tested striker would be good.

What I'd really like is someone with a bit of real quality. The type of player that makes other fans jealous.

Don't grow on trees I know but other teams seem to find them on occasion.

One tricky winger could make SUCH a difference.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 19:25:20
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 25 2008, 07:22 PM) [snapback]500929[/snapback]
Ian Russell played right wing for Dumbarton IIRC.

WTFIT?
mortonjag 2008-08-25 19:28:07
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 25 2008, 06:06 PM) [snapback]500886[/snapback]
I included you, 9 it is.

You have a lovely poosy!
mortonjag 2008-08-25 19:50:30
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 25 2008, 07:28 PM) [snapback]500936[/snapback]
WIO.

EH?
mortonjag 2008-08-25 19:52:31
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 25 2008, 07:30 PM) [snapback]500937[/snapback]
Eh, mods? I have sexually frustrated old guys trying to chat me up.

What's that got to do with Easter Road anyhow?!

I can see your poosy!
mortonjag 2008-08-25 20:03:56 Well-seriously, in fact-cup ties are MAD-no relationship to form.

Hibs 1 Morton 2.


C'MON YE TON

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mortonjag 2008-08-25 20:41:52
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 25 2008, 03:21 PM) [snapback]500783[/snapback]
60+ years on it means nothing to most youngsters. But I bet others old enough to witness the blitz would love to kick this guys asre
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Notes from his diary about the night to bombed Greenock...

“…at our briefing, Stoffregen himself arrives in person and explains our operational task. The target tonight, to start the new moon period is Greenock, an important naval port at the western exit of the Clyde in Scotland. Then follows the list of detailed crews: ‘Feldwebel Stahl will fly Dora because his own Casar with its special equipment is not suitable for this long trip.’ The estimated flying time is about six hours, quite a long stretch. We make our preflight preparations with accustomed care. Together with Hans, I work out the navigation calculations while Hein looks after his radio bits. Theo takes care of our provisions and checks the emergency and safety devices for all of us. With foresight and care, he has also organized himself a pneumatic cushion for the long flight. In a somewhat indifferent mood I strap myself into my parachute and my seat. As usual, Hans takes ages to force his tall frame up the small ladder and through the entry hatch. He always dawdles that long, apparently to have another reason to curse about “those idiotic people who built such an aircraft.†Hein on the other hand sings his usual “A man must travel time and again…†and sets my nerves on edge for the n-th time. He is in the habit of singing that inane “hit tune†every time we climb into our aircraft, then again just before we take off and once more when we are airborne. Phew! Only Theo is a stoic. I myself feel simply “itchy†and irritable. Everything seems to move far too slowly for my liking! Really we are all equally oversensitive and nervous and each one of us reacts according to his temperament…at long last! The control lamps light up, the instruments begin to register. “Port free!†The starter hums after I have pressed in the lever. Clutch in – the propeller turns over with a jerk. Red flames shoot out from the exhausts and then the 1,200 horses begin to move somewhat reluctantly. “Starboard free!†The starboard engine too begins to spit and then to run evenly. I give full throttle successively port and starboard to check the ignition and generators. Then in turn I check the oil pressure, oil and coolant temperatures, boost pressure, fuel pressure, hydraulic pressure, as well as the fuel and oil supply. Everything is in order – away with the wheel chocks! We roll out into the night to our take-off position. The searchlight briefly lights up our ground chief Romhild, waving his cap. The moon is already up and over the eastern horizon, a narrow sickle. Its light is still far too weak to be of any use. It is 20:35 hours when I taxi across the airfield towards the green lamps that indicate the beginning of the take-off runway. Just then the navigation lights of my predecessor whizz along the flare path, and I can follow right away. I am determined to use every metre of the take-off runway and park Dora way behind the first green lamp. I check everything once more, then: lock the tail wheel; flaps out 25 degrees; trim to ‘normal’ – all clear? “Let’s go!†I call out, and the customary reply comes back from the crew as always: “Let’s go!†For me it is the signal that everything is really in order on board. I slowly advance the throttle levers right to the stop and then let go of the brakes. Sparks shoot out of the exhaust stubs and the engines roar out. Dora begins to move forward with a powerful jerk. Hans lifts his left hand to indicate that ‘everything reads right’ and that the engines are running the way they should. The white lamps of the flare path are already whizzing past under the port wing…our take-off runway is 1400m long. It may seem a lot but it is not at all especially when one speeds along there at 200-220km/hr. The red lamps of the final 200m come nearer, steady…I pull the control column towards me, my trusty kite now wants to be free and away…I retract the undercarriage…we’re flying into the night, there are no lights of any kind near us only stars twinkling high above us. The dull glow of the instrument dials in our cabin are the only points we can fix our eyes on...we are carrying 1500kg bombs and 3600 litres of fuel. Our kite is loaded to the limit of what it can take…we set course for Greenock…Hans tries to pick the right radio station to determine our baseline, there is confusion from annoying squeaking from many other radio frequencies…the weather forecasts were wrong and we have to work out the necessary corrections…we climb to 3200m which is the height that the engines will run at their most economical…we should be over the target in 1 hour 50 mins… close to port there is ack-ack fire, that must be Hull. A bit further north search lights are drawing spots in the cloud beneath, that must be Newcastle. Sometimes ack-ack is a good thing as it always makes it easier for us to navigate. We fly over the East coast of Britain with good cloud cover. The countless searchlights indicate that we have reached land. Far ahead we can see a real fire dance with ack-ack explosions in the sky which must be the target area cause otherwise there is not much else north of the British Isles. Our Junker now has to reach an altitude of 4200m. The ack-ack fire is well laid as we can judge from the ack-ack flashing explosions appearing close to our Dora. The cloud cover below us is still unbroken and the searchlight activity underneath gives the impression of flying over a giant piece of frosted glass. Hans carries out another reverse calculation on his slide rule and confirms that we’re definitely over Greenock I have no choice but to drop my bombs blind. I try to read the fireworks once more to try to determine the approximate centre of the witches’ cauldron and then fly towards it and let my explosives fall. A few jerks confirm that the aircraft is free of our load. Bon voyage. A steep turn of 180 degrees in the middle of the fireworks and we set a new course for home. Soon we are enveloped in the peace and quiet of the Scottish highlands again. A short while later we are given navigational assistance by searchlights and ack-ack fire over Newcastle and Hull. Then it’s all dark beneath us over the north sea.â€

I just noticed that the target highlighted in the map is now Mr Rae's sweetie factory!
mortonjag 2008-08-25 20:49:20
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Aug 25 2008, 08:34 PM) [snapback]500979[/snapback]
It is done ..... by First Touch who then 'feed' promising kids onto Morton FC at the P7 stage. Been happening for 2-3 years now. rolleyes.gif

I've noticed an improvement in the ball boys, Anus!

* Please note the comma and absence of apostrophe.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 21:32:46
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Aug 25 2008, 09:11 PM) [snapback]500994[/snapback]
My gripe is that the ones yelling at the previous (useless) manager seem to think that Irons is the bees knees - he is far from it.

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I haven't been reading much 'bees knees' stuff! I think many folk have praised him for the way in which he 'saved' us, and for the marked improvement in coaching-and quite rightly so.

Time will tell how good or bad he is in the Managerial function.
mortonjag 2008-08-26 07:29:37
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 25 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]501019[/snapback]
Yet the ones who were accused of a witchunt against JM are now the ones who are saying lets give these guys a fraction of the time awarded to McInally.

If that is so I hadn't clocked it Chrissiboi.

What I WOULD like to know, however, is the nature of the contracts DI/DC have.

I'm always willing to be patient to a point-I was with JM-but there comes a time with any manager when it is clear to all whether he's progressing or otherwise.

In that sense it's perfectly healthy to have all shades of perception at all stages of the exercise.
mortonjag 2008-08-26 07:39:24
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Aug 25 2008, 10:34 PM) [snapback]501024[/snapback]
Common knowledge Shipman, common knowledge not internal club affairs.

Q. When is your master going to publish a statement of intent?
A. I don't have a master, a mistress but not a master.
Q. When is Mr Donald going to reply to the Trust's letter?
A. You would need to ask Mr Donald that question, maybe he already has.
Q. Which do you prefer- Pedigree Chum, or Kennomeat?
A. Raw meat Shipman, I was raised on raw meat.

And to be honest, where I come from your just a p***y....meow....with cuddly toys as companions.

You have avoided the two questions I hoped you would answer. I'm very disappointed. Yesterday you PRONOUNCED that DI HAD been given a budget, and had 'BLOWN IT'. You claimed that Mr Rae had let him get on with it. Unless statements like those are made with insider knowledge, they are nothing but unhelpful speculation IMO.

I don't believe you anyhow.

'Raised on raw meat and you have a mistress'-obviously you're big Gillian's poodle! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-26 08:01:48
QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Aug 25 2008, 10:22 PM) [snapback]501016[/snapback]
I don't really see whats the big fuss about McAlister - does a fine job from where i've been standing for 3 or 4 years. Lets stick to our priorities and get in a real striker, what we have ins't even a good enough excuse!



QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 26 2008, 03:07 AM) [snapback]501090[/snapback]
If Spot Ton below is correct, nothing will happen until January


"I can tell you now Irons was given a budget and he was the one who blew it, for once DDFR stood back and let the manager do the job. Just a pity he made an arse of it because sadly DDFR will probably not allow that to happen again."

Measles has published a retraction of sorts claiming he's NOT an 'insider' and what he publishes is 'common knowledge'.

I have, however, worked out that he's Gillian Donaldson's poodle.
mortonjag 2008-08-26 08:09:16
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 25 2008, 11:02 PM) [snapback]501047[/snapback]
Is Perspective some Thai lassie? huh.gif
Bad taste?

Thai lassies don't have names like 'Perspective'-misinformation more than bad taste.

Nothing new there young man! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-26 08:20:14 Back at the ranch, Moira was preparing breakfast.

'Two eggs or three, Angel?', she asked, an edentulous smile lighting up her ageing features.

'I'll have three this morning Dear-oh, and by the way, you left your dentures under your pillow'.

'Silly me Angel- Soapy was in for a blow job while you were at Nicola's'!

'How much did you get this time Dear'?

'He said he'll see you about it Angel-something about a laundry-I don't understand those things'.
mortonjag 2008-08-26 08:28:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 26 2008, 01:21 AM) [snapback]501081[/snapback]
A celebrity plastic surgeon who received oral sex from a female patient before giving her a nose job is facing the sack.

Martyn Mendelsohn, who appeared on television program RPA, fronted the NSW Medical Tribunal yesterday to answer questions over the alleged professional misconduct relating to the incident in May 2005, The Australian reports.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=620784
I am sure that I am missing an obvious pun.

How would you like an umbilicus full of snotters?
mortonjag 2008-08-26 08:30:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 26 2008, 07:37 AM) [snapback]501101[/snapback]
... anything but.

However, I would suggest that predicting the possible attempted assassination of Obama is hardly rocket science.

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Do you have any of your agents working in Inverclyde?
mortonjag 2008-08-26 08:33:39
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 26 2008, 07:26 AM) [snapback]501099[/snapback]
The problem with conspiracy theories is that they can never be disproved.

Not a problem for the theorists!
mortonjag 2008-08-26 08:36:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 26 2008, 08:28 AM) [snapback]501112[/snapback]
misinformation or lack of a proper education ?

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Yes.
mortonjag 2008-08-26 08:39:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 26 2008, 08:04 AM) [snapback]501105[/snapback]
Are measles serious for a poodle ?

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Measles is his name Newt. He's actually a Dalmoodle, and is Gillian Donaldson's 'poodle'.
mortonjag 2008-08-26 08:48:31
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 25 2008, 11:05 PM) [snapback]501050[/snapback]
Terry Wogan finds him quite exciting actually

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mortonjag 2008-08-26 08:54:15
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 26 2008, 08:46 AM) [snapback]501120[/snapback]
I was not at the game due to circumstances beyond my control, I gave my tickets away but would have booed GSTQ if I was there so I'll throw in my tuppence.
1) I'm a republican so I'm not in favour of the monarchy.
2) I'm a nationalist so I'm against being forced to have an anthem which is clearly that of the country that is IMO is oppressing us
3) The anthem is anti Scottish, you cannot just take a verse out and say it never existed.
I think the truth behind that is that once Scotland is out the union 'our leader' will let the people decide is they want a republic or a monarchy, in anyways I vote SNP for one reason, I'm not in favour of all or even most of their policies, once Scotland is Independent then I will look at what all political parties have to offer and decide only then who gets my vote.
Having said that the SNP seem to be doing the best job by far of any of the parties in power so far.

You wouldn't say 'boo' to a goose! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-26 09:56:20
QUOTE(ton1901 @ Aug 26 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]501124[/snapback]
That was a sitter, he really should have done better

So far as I can see it, it's somewhat sad that you have to be dissecting games to identify two or three good chances which have been missed.

FAR more important is the fact that we have half decent strikers who WILL score goals if they get an even average number of 'strikes'.

That has not been the case. The supply has been abysmal, to the point where several of our goals have come from assists FROM another striker.

No wingers-no playmaker-no wing backs-and a long ball to Wakey sums it up for me! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-26 10:11:24 I can tell you now Irons was given a budget and he was the one who blew it, for once DDFR stood back and let the manager do the job. Just a pity he made an arse of it because sadly DDFR will probably not allow that to happen again.

I challenged the poster about the comment, and his reply was that it is 'common knowledge'.


DI certainly admitted he had to select a small squad of 'quality' players. He also commented that more money would not be available until we offloaded others.

To me that does not equate to having blown a budget while Mr Rae stood back and benignly watched it happen!

I'm slightly puzzled by the last sentence-are we to take it that Mr Rae will be signing the players again as he has done in the past?
mortonjag 2008-08-26 11:13:58
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Aug 26 2008, 10:21 AM) [snapback]501144[/snapback]
I had a nice bowl of chrunchy nut cornflakes for breakfast this morning, with ice cold milk, and a glass of orange juice.

Went down a treat smile.gif

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QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 26 2008, 11:09 AM) [snapback]501169[/snapback]
That sounds good.

Try it with slices of banana and a few blueberries on top.
Sets you up for the day.thumbup2.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-26 11:28:12
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 26 2008, 11:14 AM) [snapback]501174[/snapback]
I had a sausage roll from Greggs...fat bassa that I am! rolleyes.gif
Seriously though, did your question really merit a separate thread MJ?

I believe it did!

I sense that DI is already coming in for a fair bit of criticism-in my opinion perhaps a little early.

When somebody makes a bald statement- starting with 'I CAN TELL YOU' and suggests that Mr Rae is disenchanted with DI for 'blowing a budget' and 'making an arse of it' adding that he won't let it happen again' it sound like he's claiming inside information.

When I asked him to confirm that, he claimed it is common knowledge. OK-let's paraphrase.

MR RAE IS FURIOUS AT DI FOR BLOWING HIS BUDGET AND MAKING AN ARSE OF THINGS AND IN FUTURE WILL SUPERVISE HIS MANAGER'S DECISIONS.

I don't believe that is necessarily the case, and I CERTAINLY don't believe it's common knowledge.

So The Master already believes he's taken on another incompetent, does he, and he's going to take over just as he's done before-I hardly think so!


Clowns who prefer CHRUNCHY nut cereal and blueberries to legitimate questions are fortunately becoming thinner on the ground. Sycophancy is not, however, dead and buried. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-26 11:47:43
QUOTE(Cawston @ Aug 26 2008, 11:40 AM) [snapback]501199[/snapback]
Just the one? Pffft...lightweight tongue.gif

Forget your belly for a moment Cawstick and answer the question if you will! laugh.gif

Is it common knowledge that Mr Rae thinks DI has made an arse of things and feels he can no longer trust him?
mortonjag 2008-08-26 11:54:25
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 26 2008, 11:12 AM) [snapback]501172[/snapback]
Likewise had we defended set-pieces competently against Clyde and Dundee - not even taking the St Johnstone and Livingston gaffe-prone displays into account.
Rae's after match comments seemed to point the way - aiming for a clean sheet is a primary objective at this level - even if Newby and Russell can't find the net we still get a point.


I noticed Mr Rae was also on the pitch for about twenty minutes before kick of giving instructions to David Irons.
mortonjag 2008-08-26 11:58:40
QUOTE(TigerTon @ Aug 26 2008, 11:50 AM) [snapback]501212[/snapback]
doubt it, it let 2 hibees on to the course ph34r.gif

i believe it is classed as a real uni on this board....just biggrin.gif

It may be a 'real Uni', but is it a Proper University? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-26 12:01:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 26 2008, 11:56 AM) [snapback]501218[/snapback]
I'm sure we're thinking of two different people... rolleyes.gif

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I do hope things come good for Mr Rae tonight in the big Cup Tie-not often provincial clubs get into Europe!
mortonjag 2008-08-26 12:06:12
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 26 2008, 12:00 PM) [snapback]501223[/snapback]
I think I'll have a Subway for my lunch. Probably a 6" Italian bread Reggie Reggie Chicken .

Do you think it is 'common knowledge' that Mr Rae believes DI 'blew the budget', 'made an arse of it', and 'won't be trusting his Manager' with future signings Mr Connell?

mortonjag 2008-08-26 12:16:44
QUOTE(TigerTon @ Aug 26 2008, 12:04 PM) [snapback]501231[/snapback]
potentially, but it let me in, so I'm sure it is borderline at best.

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mortonjag 2008-08-26 12:27:51
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 26 2008, 12:14 PM) [snapback]501239[/snapback]
or maybe I'll just have a salad box from the Deli.

Sorry, do you have a point to this thread or do you just like to show off that you know my name?
Well done.

Why are you sorry?

Of course there's a point to the thread as anybody with a modicum of intelligence can see. Shall I spell it out for you?

A statement of apparent FACT was made which showed our Manager up in a poor light, and implied that in future the Chairman would not entrust him with signings.

I believe any true fan should have noted that with interest, especially with the recent record of incompetent Management and apparent Chairman signings.

I genuinely invited the poster to confirm it as fact, whereupon he stated that 'it is common knowledge'.

The POINT of my thread was to establish whether or not that is the case, as I've not so far heard it claimed on this massage board.

Is Connell really your name? It's just that I once knew a guy with a passion for banana and blueberry on his CHRUNCHY nut cornflakes, and I seem to recall he was a Connell, though it may well have been McConnell (another joke)!
mortonjag 2008-08-26 12:41:03
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 26 2008, 12:32 PM) [snapback]501251[/snapback]
Why do you keep spelling crunchy like that? mellow.gif

Is that the wrong way! Not according to the poster who got your salivary glands working overtime. I just assumed it was a statement of fact.

Let's face it we should apparently accept apparent statements of fact without question. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-26 12:44:35
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 26 2008, 12:04 PM) [snapback]501230[/snapback]
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Anyway-back to the thread. It's apparently common knowledge that Mr Rae is blazing at DI for blowing the budget and making an arse of things, so I doubt that we'll see any more signings this month.
mortonjag 2008-08-26 12:48:12
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 26 2008, 12:44 PM) [snapback]501258[/snapback]
[codebox]Oh no, I thought it was you who had misspelled it.
I'm so sorry.[/codebox]

laugh.gifThat's ok don't mention it. smile.gif

Fair enough smile.gif

Do you think it's common knowledge that Mr Rae is furious with DI for blowing the budget and making an arse of things? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-26 12:51:19
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Aug 26 2008, 12:46 PM) [snapback]501260[/snapback]
Raw meat for me followed by a little fishing with my hook line and sinker laugh.gif

Fraid that won't do Measles. You have 'previous'!

Feel free to publish a retraction. 'Conscience doth make cowards of us all'!
mortonjag 2008-08-26 12:54:08
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 26 2008, 12:50 PM) [snapback]501267[/snapback]
Why did you add a smilie to my quote?

Why will you not answer the question?
mortonjag 2008-08-26 12:56:49
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 26 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]501272[/snapback]
This isn't the Sunday Post, you know. wink.gif rolleyes.gif

Do you think it's common knowledge That Mr Rae is furious with DI for blowing the budget and making an arse of things? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-26 13:01:42
QUOTE(Bryan @ Aug 26 2008, 12:49 PM) [snapback]501265[/snapback]
he talks to the manager before every game i doubt he is giving him instructions.

I agree-I believe the old fud is just milking the imaginary limelight as usual.

QUOTE(Bryan @ Aug 26 2008, 12:52 PM) [snapback]501271[/snapback]
the facts are the he has a biggest budget of any manager under the current chairman, and irons used it the way he saw fit. i doubt anyone knows if Mr Rae is unhappy at how he spent it out with him or the manager.

Except Measles-Gillian's Dalmoodle turned angler! bag.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-26 13:07:49
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Aug 26 2008, 01:00 PM) [snapback]501279[/snapback]
No retraction Shipman, I just forgot that you only inhabit this small Morton community. It must be galling to find out you don't know everything and your not always right after all.

Go give the monkey a jag in the arse Shipman for not being properly informed and put it out of it's misery.

Good. We can now debate your statement of 'FACT'.

It's interesting that you appear to regard the Cappielow Clique as being on a higher plane than this 'small Morton community'.

His Master's Voice indeed.

Run along now-worms are to be dealt with today.
mortonjag 2008-08-26 13:11:03
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 26 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]501290[/snapback]
laugh.gif Look at you getting all excited about this. laugh.gif

Here's your answer.

No one knows what goes on between Manager and Chairman and I dont care what is or isn't "common knowledge" or hear say for that matter.

I reckon you could be doing with finding yourself a hobby don't you?

Thank you!

QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 26 2008, 01:07 PM) [snapback]501291[/snapback]
Looks like you're not getting any answers. Maybe it's the way you're wording it, try again. smile.gif

What is yours-or are you just a fence sitter who gets his rocks off by taking pots at folk who dare to ask questions? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-26 16:01:31
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 26 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]501304[/snapback]
No doubt DDFR is still huffing about JM going ?

Dougie he has a fantastic record in the transfer market .

I thought we used to be told that it was the managers decision who was signed and that DDFR didn't take to do with it ?

Enjoy your lunch at the sycophants society make sure you don't choke on your words .

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Maybe I was wrong to ask a question Chrissiboi! dry.gif

Mortonjag was a wee bit concerned that things might already be so bleak behind the scenes. After all Mr Rae told us we'd be THRILLED with his new management team who would be 'here for a long time to come', and now it appears that DI has 'made an arse of it', 'blown the budget', and that Sugar Daddy 'won't let it happen again'. unsure.gif

Mortonjag once asked a question about Alistair Donald. The denizens of Plankton Pond thought they'd have a field day at the Jag's expense on that occasion too! laugh.gif

IMO those who attempt to muffle legitimate questions are either immature children who DON'T have the club's true interests at heart, or bitter representatives of the Cappielow Mafia.

Why has nobody come out in defence of/support of David Irons?

Was he indeed the man who offered crazy contracts to existing players with Mr Rae smiling on benignly? Maybe he HAS made a complete arse of a budget. He had, after all, experience of Mileson's overflowing benevolence. Did he just think it would be easy to 'beef up' the squad and 'Hey Presto'?

JM was a Muppet-putty in Rae's grasping old mits. DI is a different kettle of fish.

Could it be that he cleverly made GOD think he was making all the decisions, while spending the dosh as he chose, and that GOD's nose is now in a poke at dropping crowds and miserable results?

Mortonjag had already been asking himself those questions, when along trotted Gillian's 'poodle' with all the 'answers'-'answers' which when challenged, he yelps defiantly are 'common knowledge'!


ARE THEY!

When will DI be sacked? I really want to know the answer. He's apparently displeased his Master, something JM was sleekit enough to avoid. Worse-he's seemingly wasted the Master's MUNNY-a crime surely deserving of death. The master and MUNNY are not easily parted.

I reckon he'll be 'oot the door' by Christmas-don't you! rolleyes.gif

In fact I'd say it's COMMON KNOWLEDGE! smile.gif




mortonjag 2008-08-27 13:08:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 27 2008, 03:35 AM) [snapback]502120[/snapback]
Or he went to buy some Quink ?

Do they still make it ?

Quink is still the world's biggest selling pen ink in this millennium. According to fountain pen enthusiasts, Parker Quink is generally considered to be so-called "safe fountain pen ink". This means it should not stain or clog fountain pens very easily. However, the use of fountain pens gradually fell out of favor over the second half of the 20th century. In fact, the manufacture of the Parker 51 ink was phased out in the UK in 1972 and the US in 1978. But the legend of the Parker 51 still lives on, with a large worldwide network of collectors and enthusiasts who still use these vintage pens today. In fact, in 2002 Parker introduced a limited edition of Parker 51 revival pens. As part of the revival, Parker emphasised the value of using their own quick-drying ink as the perfect partner for the Parker 51, a classic of engineering and design. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-27 13:38:07
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 26 2008, 07:17 PM) [snapback]501449[/snapback]
I just find it strange that some of those who were practically crying along with Dougie at the departure of McInally are now the ones shouting about this percieved rift .

The question was about SpotTon 's statement , would you ignore an inaccurate statement about the club . All I want to know is if it is a wind up fair enough although unhelpful .

Correct and Measles made no bones from the word go that he thought DI/DC were a 'panic buy' while claiming that JM was forced out by the 'boo boys'. Measles doesn't do 'wind ups' Chrissiboi, though he pontificates long and hard about 'The Devil we Know', his inside knowledge of the youth set up, and the need for the fans to have a voice by buying SHARES. He's never forgiven Mortonjag for asking questions of the beloved Trust-that's his real agenda-he HATES criticism of an organisation that's run like a knitting bee and which,after almost two months, still awaits an answer to a question it claims to have put to Alistair Donald! A shower of weans playing 'investor' if ever I saw it.

Anyway-it's great to see that having 'made an arse of it, blown the budget, and upset the Master, DI did the Ton mighty proud last night. Mr Rae will hopefully pick up lots of lovely MUNNY from a decent draw, and DI (whom Measles confidently predicted would be out the door at the end of the season if he failed to produce) will be granted a stay of execution! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Over to you Measles! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-27 18:33:58
QUOTE(mccaff @ Aug 27 2008, 01:53 PM) [snapback]502367[/snapback]
3 pages an no one has actually said anythin

Not QUITE true!

Do you think it's OK for yet another anonymous poster to claim inside information simply for the sake of riding his own hobby horse?

Spot Ton apparently resents David Irons for some reason. Just before our crucial cup tie last night, he effectively tried to mock the Manager, claiming that he'd 'blown the budget, made an arse of things, and had incurred Mr Rae's wrath to such an extent that 'it wouldn't happen again'.

He previously made it clear that he didn't like the appointment (a panic buy according to him) in the first place.

Mortonjag reckons Measles is pursuing an agenda against DI. Measles is pretty self satisfied if he thinks he can rubbish our Manager FOR PERSONAL REASONS. 'Up his own arse', is the popular description. I'd add 'scum' for people who abuse privileged information for their own ends. We've had a few recently! ph34r.gif

There was PLENTY said mccaff-plenty said by the usual arseholes who don't believe in questions! Much easier to behave like the brain dead pond life they aspire to and have a jab at the Jag! laugh.gif

Spot Ton may of course identify himself, and produce documentation to prove his selfish allegations and apparent attempt to besmirch DI's character! dry.gif

He won't, though in typical Rae 'bring a friend' fashion, he may exhort you to Join the Trust. He believes that buying SHARES speaks FAR louder than asking questions-even when the requisite 10% for a hopeful squeak is pie in the sky! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


CORRECT EH Measles? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-27 18:36:52
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Aug 27 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]502544[/snapback]
Davie Irons has more money to spend but to bring in players of the calibre that would improve the team he needs to get rid of the non-playing wage suckers, if he is desperate then Dougie will free up the funds to complete the transfer. There is NO problem between the manager and club concerning transfers but Irons has been informed that the club is currently running at a loss and cannot afford to be spending money on bench warmers. I hope this has answered your question mortonjag, if you need any more questions answered along the lines of this then feel free to post them here and i will endeavor to bring you the facts.

Thank you Doc.

How do you explain SpotTon's allegations?
mortonjag 2008-08-27 18:51:59
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 27 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]502556[/snapback]
Irons has brought in a few players of a calibre that will improve the team. Paartalu, Shimmin, Masterton for example. We've played four f***in' league games. Anybody who was able to make it to Easter Road last night will have seen what this side is capable of, anybody who couldn't make it or chose not to go will see the fire Morton displayed last night repeated on Saturday, I'm sure of it.

We all have theories about what is and isn't going on, and who is and isn't responsible for our poor start in the league, but lets get behind the team. Put grumbles aside!

Wait until a credible amount of matches have passed, double figures at least? Meaning we have displayed the same league form for another six matches from now, which we probably won't! Then, and only then, is it just verging on the not so ridiculous to start debating why something we supposedly all care about is, even though it probably isn't, home to the biggest amount of in-fighting since the Spanish Civil War.

In truth its all melodramatic pish IMO and it is damaging the way we support our team. Support Morton and moan if there is actually something catastrophic going on! Right now, we have two points out of four, in a season of thirty-six. We've just dumped Hibernian out of the league cup in style and we have seen a classy performance from the team. The potential has been realised. Now we move forward. Hawd yer wheesht and get behind the team, that means you Mortonjag! dry.gif



How did you get on with your letter to the Tilly?

I'm still hoarse today! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-27 19:36:55 Holyrood! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-27 19:48:49 I also thought Jimbo was outstanding-where has he been for so long? Once he learns to shoot he'll become lethal.

Iain Russell hopefully shut a few mouths. Immense composure for that vital penalty and a peach of a STRIKER'S goal from -wait for it- a through ball!!

My MOTM-Wakey by a country mile. He took on the target man role against an SPL side and did the work of two men. The guy is utterly fearless!

Cuthbert-very solid last night.

Oh and Masty finally proved he CAN do what he was signed for!
mortonjag 2008-08-27 20:03:41
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Aug 27 2008, 07:57 PM) [snapback]502609[/snapback]
The whole team were excellent last night; the only exceptions would be Russell and McAlister: they were even better!

Both players were given pretty much free rein and drifted here there and everywhere, but always to good effect. Both tracked back as well when required.

Can anyone shed any light on the formation last night?!!
There seemed to be a few man-mark jobs on the go, but other than that it was pretty bizarre, but it worked!

I have it on good authority that it was called the 'Get into thae c*nts' formation

Worked a treat too! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-27 20:08:36
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Aug 27 2008, 08:02 PM) [snapback]502614[/snapback]
I wouldn't get paranoid - i think it's more that it's the diddy cup to be honest.

And the Alba Cup will be the Diddy, Diddy cup-or Ultimo Trophy!

Partick did well out of the Diddy Cup last year!
mortonjag 2008-08-27 20:15:00 Nothing can overshadow the win for me.

Maybe that's because I don't do 'bragging rights'.

It was a fantastic performance and the result speaks for itself.
mortonjag 2008-08-27 21:35:31
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 27 2008, 05:57 PM) [snapback]502519[/snapback]
Your not a homosexual by any chance are you?

I don't like homosexuals, I'm about the only board member who openly admits to being homophobic.


POUFFE

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 27 2008, 08:30 PM) [snapback]502633[/snapback]
Think I'd rather be homosexual.

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QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Aug 27 2008, 08:52 PM) [snapback]502645[/snapback]
Welcome aboard Wanderton! Just refuse to be drawn into any of MortonJag's sh*te and you should be fine! laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 27 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]502647[/snapback]

f*** OFF AND DON'T COME BACK.

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Welcome aboard and having wanderton just listen to old Jaggy and your wandering days will be over!
mortonjag 2008-08-27 21:43:29
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Aug 27 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]502658[/snapback]
Seriously, it is completely different. I was commenting about our achievement being lost in the ref talk, which to an extent it has.

Our achievement is recorded for posterity, and will be all the more significant if we can keep the momentum going in the next round.

It was a fantastic performance. I got home just after midnight and lay awake for a couple of hours just reliving it!

Bit of a 'come down' today with the realisation that it's back to the drawing board on Saturday.

Football's a funny old game. 90% of posters perhaps imagine it's a foregone conclusion against Airdrie, but it has to be 'one game at a time'.
mortonjag 2008-08-27 21:52:13
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 27 2008, 08:46 PM) [snapback]502643[/snapback]
Football is the opium of the people.

Taken over from religion Marxy?
mortonjag 2008-08-27 22:00:49
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 26 2008, 02:01 PM) [snapback]501320[/snapback]
Correct, hang the c***s.

If it is an illness it one sure way of wiping it out ph34r.gif


Bollocks!
QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 26 2008, 02:57 PM) [snapback]501351[/snapback]
Obviously a few of us know about certain examples of folk close to home, and as someone who doesn't have kids of their own I'm not too sure how relevant my views on them are.

However, when I was a kid in the 80s and 90s at the Boys Brigade, there was one officer there who was a truly despicible character. I just didn't like him, and am still sick of the mere thought of him. My parents were members of the local Church of Scotland, and in good faith sent my two brothers and I to the BBs.

However, about 5 years ago a story appeared on the front of the local paper about how this guy had been convicted and sentenced to 3 years in Greenock, coincidentally. This for crimes committed in the 60s and 70s, before we were even born and when he was in his late teens and early twenties. Not even at the point you'd have decribed him as a depraved old man, when he should've been in the prime of his life.

We were obviously very lucky nothing happened to us, but I'll certainly never send any kids I have to the BBs having seen my mum's reaction at the time. Clearly she felt she was doing right by her sons to a reputable organisation when infact we were put under incredible risk through no knowledge of her own.

It'll probably be on my mum's conscience until the day she dies and for that, for all I could try to be fairly liberal about it, if I ever saw the b*****d now I'm an adult I shudder to think what I'd do.

Illness or no illness, it's totally incomparable to depression or OCD, which only directly affects the sufferer.

Far too simplistic Toby, and don't forget that Carstairs is full of paranoid schizophrenics!

QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Aug 27 2008, 11:57 AM) [snapback]502285[/snapback]
Aye, alcohol makes people commit the most horrendous crimes, but Paedo's do not require to be under the influence of anything to commit their own brand of despicable crimes.

IF a paedophile re-offends. One offence is enough in my eyes and rehabilitation should not be an option. Minced immediately.

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mortonjag 2008-08-28 07:37:56
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 27 2008, 10:04 PM) [snapback]502717[/snapback]
Aren't we all! Make yourself hoarse against Airdrie United too! Unity is what will get this season for Morton up and running!

Doesn't seem like its going to get published, letters appear at the Editor's discretion so I'm told! rolleyes.gif

I'm genuinely sorry about your letter. It must have crossed your mind that the Editor may not wish to offend the powers that be!

'UNITY'-that's an emotive word which is as apposite to Greenock Morton as 'democracy' was to Nazi Germany. (whatever made me think of that analogy? laugh.gif )

What sort of 'unity' do you think is most likely to 'get us up and running'? The biggest problem for the Ton right now will not be solved by rose tinted visions of a unified body of happy clappers. Unity will come when the Club wants the fans to become an integral part. So long as the club deliberately perpetuates the current 'divide and rule' policy, we WILL remain divided, and we WILL continue to knock lumps out of each other on this massage board.

Do YOU think that accusing our Manager of blowing his budget, making an arse of things and incurring the Chairman's displeasure-that just before a crucial Cup Tie-was a unifying gesture? dry.gif


QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 28 2008, 03:41 AM) [snapback]502821[/snapback]
Feel free to dismiss what you will, but the fabricated dialogue I proposed is exactly what will happen if any of MJ's inital post is correct.
Also, Bug: Unity won't "get this season up and running". Previously, I've called our squad "spineless", an allegation to which the manager has agreed...well, his words were something about "not accepting responsibility". What will get us up and running is players who have the mentality to walk on to the pitch and kick opponents about the place, guys who are willing to take a wee touch of the ball and hit a pass. Bravery and a back-bone will take us forward, not a bunch of chancers who decide that it might be worth the effort to actually play against a half-decent team whenever they fancy it.

One crucial difference between JM and DI is that the former was spineless and couldn't have motivated a hypermanic jumping bean on speed. I don't believe DI is the finished article by any means, and I'll pass judgement as time goes by-NOT at the end of the season! (That latter philosophy would have had us relegated last time!!!) rolleyes.gif

I have not been overly impressed by results so far. I believe he's cobbled together a very incomplete squad with limited options. On Tuesday night, however, those boys showed that they can produce AND entertain when they want to, and I'm hopeful that we now may go on a good run.

Perhaps Measles' post was just the subtle dig in the ribs that DI needed. Perhaps Measles knew that.

If so we have lots to thank the spotty dog for!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-28 08:14:03
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 28 2008, 12:17 AM) [snapback]502779[/snapback]
My grandfather bought me a Parker 51 in 1964.

But, sadly, I lost it at university in the early 1970s.

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One hopes the proper pen was lost in a proper institution.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 08:17:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 28 2008, 07:53 AM) [snapback]502835[/snapback]
Gidday MJ,

well, our league start has clearly been poor.

With our form against Hibs and Airdrie's form against Hearts, Saturday will be a turning point.

Things are undoubtedly looking better.

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Perhaps Measles knew that.

I am sorry, MJ, but I am not sure that Spotty knows anything.

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He seems to know lots about SHARES!

QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 28 2008, 08:03 AM) [snapback]502836[/snapback]
Gidday mccaff,

Could that be due to Spotty's failure to clarify his claims ?

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Maybe he's in the dog house!
mortonjag 2008-08-28 08:24:08
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 28 2008, 03:52 AM) [snapback]502823[/snapback]
Whats this "money-spinner" talk all about???
So much for Morton being a club of ambition. I want ICT at Cappielow, since they are the easiest draw that we can get, apparently.
Anyone who wants a "lucrative" draw over a winnable one is having a laugh. I would give a hundred 3rd round ties against the OF for the chance of progressing. We haven't had a respectable cup run for almost a decade now, whilst we have sat and watched teams no better than us playing in Europe, namedly Gretna and QotS.
So what if we can't make Europe through the CIS? GMFC achieving a bit of credibility and respect after god knows how long of embarrassing ourselves is worth so much more than a cup draw against a team we will most likely get hammered by.

That's the ideal scenario. We're so used to getting humped at this stage of competitions that I'd rather take a beating from one of the OF along with plenty of MUNNY than go out ignominiously with little return.

IF you can guarantee that we'll progress-by all means! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-28 08:32:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 28 2008, 01:37 AM) [snapback]502800[/snapback]
Ooooh I'm staying away from this tongue.gif
Random thoughts though:

Liverpool were sh1te tonight
Its dead smothery rain (as I just walked in it)
Toast is good

Random thought.

Pity it didn't work.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 08:35:35
QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Aug 27 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]502661[/snapback]
Can I just add to that, I think I'm right in saying that you were asking for very little in return?

Aren't you normally spot on?
mortonjag 2008-08-28 08:46:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 28 2008, 08:26 AM) [snapback]502845[/snapback]
He seems to know lots about SHARES!

OK, MJ, I'll bite.

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Is SHARES a brand of dog food ?

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Here's what Measles said:

'If you really want to make a difference at any club you need SHARES, as many as you can possibly get your hands on.
Joining the Trust makes more sense to me. They purchase SHARES and the more they get their hands on the stronger they become. It just makes so much sense to me.'


Newt-why don't you spend that money Rae knocked back, on the Trust?

With an extra £20,000 worth of shares, surely they'd become strong enough to get a reply from Mr Donald! ph34r.gif


mortonjag 2008-08-28 08:54:35
QUOTE(cowshed_agro08 @ Aug 27 2008, 07:41 PM) [snapback]502600[/snapback]
aye well look wit the big man did last nite then wat a goal well done big man he needed it tae get everywan aff his bk

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The 'big man'-are you vertically challenged?

Masty's goal was a screamer-I agree-WELL DONE!
mortonjag 2008-08-28 09:18:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 28 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]502863[/snapback]
Gidday MJ,

For some strange reason I doubt that Mr Donald's reply would be worth £20 let alone £20,000.

I think it is fair to suggest that recent events or lack thereof, show where the Trust sits in the view of Sugar Rae and Mr Donald.

Sad but true, IMHO.

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Here's another of Measles' sayings:


'A really strong Supporters' Trust would make a far greater impact at Cappielow than any one owner'.



I think Measles may have been quite a deluded wee pooch when he said that-don't you Newt? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-28 09:31:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 28 2008, 09:23 AM) [snapback]502865[/snapback]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgo...est/7584450.stm

Gidday David,

Is it not more than just a problem of poverty ?

"But I believe that advertising for alcohol and junk-food should also be tackled."

Dr Jamieson said these multi-million pound industries were giving people "false information" about products which are detrimental to their health.

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By coincidence (??) the following is a news report today on the push against junk food here in Oz.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=622360b




Sweeties have been good for Morton-at least in the short term. I hope the Club's life expectancy is greater than the Calton boys.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 09:34:10
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 27 2008, 05:53 PM) [snapback]502515[/snapback]
I never answer. If it's something important they'll usually leave a voicemail anyway.

Precisely what I do.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 09:37:18
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Aug 27 2008, 10:25 PM) [snapback]502734[/snapback]
'Tucked in' never mind 'lived in'

Looks like you could get a fair few burgers out of that!

Complete with ketchup?
mortonjag 2008-08-28 09:41:42
QUOTE(northseaton @ Aug 28 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]502866[/snapback]
With the transfer deadline bieng extended to the 1st September and with it coinciding with the draw for the next round of the cup could we see someone being lined up should we be given a favourable financial draw.

Personally I would like to see a centre forward as neither of ours are IMHO 20 goals a season men but equally a full back would be nice. On Tuesday night when the Hibs subs came on down both flanks we were so pedestrian it was untrue.

If Mixu`s finishing 11 had started the game we would have been roasted. Irrespective im still on a high and haven`t enjoyed a game so much in a long time.

Why don't we sign players who can supply our strikers better? I'd settle for twelve apiece from Russell, Wakey, and Newby plus the inevitable strikes from midfielders.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 10:21:02
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Aug 28 2008, 10:09 AM) [snapback]502879[/snapback]
Fair enough MJ, can you follow up by suggesting who you would sign if you were in DI's shoes.

I would agree we need a bit more creativity and service but who is available within our means?

As a physician I'm well acquainted with accurate diagnosis and ignorance of an available cure.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 10:34:52
QUOTE(ShimminTon @ Aug 26 2008, 11:04 AM) [snapback]501165[/snapback]
Count me in TID. wink.gif

Fifteen posts including this gem of open mindedness and tolerance!


I've checked that thread twice over and couldn't see anything wrong. Mr Newall at it again rolleyes.gif

First time I've voted against anybody joining the Jessie Boys-Shimmin-but I reckon you've a lot of growing up to do-and by the way-Mortonjag has NO enemies on that forum-we're all happy bum chums.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 10:38:04
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Aug 28 2008, 09:53 AM) [snapback]502874[/snapback]
mayonaisse if yer lucky

Brown sauce if less so.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 10:43:30
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 28 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]502880[/snapback]
Are sweeties included in "junk food" ?

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Junk food is food that is unhealthy and/or has little or no nutritional value. The term is believed to have been coined by Michael Jacobson, director of the Center for Science in the Public Interest, in 1972. The term has since come into common usage.

I'd suggest that sweeties fill the bill Newt, though we could argue about 'food' or 'fad'.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 10:50:14 Not huge, but a nice wee article about Ryan's history as a lifelong 'Jambo' and Hibees 'reject' who previously was in the Livi Cup winning squad.

Just shows what a wee bit of success can do for publicity.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 10:57:58
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Aug 28 2008, 10:32 AM) [snapback]502888[/snapback]
There's a lot more risk involved in getting a cure wrong, than just backing up your suggestion with a possible solution on a message board. Where's the big risk in that?

It's not my job to trawl the ranks of Scottish football DOT. We could do with two decent wing backs, a creative midder, and at least one tricky winger. That's my projected cure. Are you telling me those people don't exist, or just that we can't afford them.

Pity we can't 'go private' and get Mr Donald to foot the bill! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-28 11:00:08
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 28 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]502886[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-08-28 11:04:01
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 28 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]502885[/snapback]
I think you mean "opiate"...

I think he sees footie fans as POUFFES
mortonjag 2008-08-28 11:18:15
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Aug 26 2008, 01:00 PM) [snapback]501279[/snapback]
No retraction Shipman, I just forgot that you only inhabit this small Morton community. It must be galling to find out you don't know everything and your not always right after all.

Go give the monkey a jag in the arse Shipman for not being properly informed and put it out of it's misery.

Almost 48 hours now Measles!

Did the Embra Polis bang you into quarantine as a public nuisance.

No retraction of your attack on the Manager.

Big Doc says you're a 'liar'.

Is Big Doc not properly informed?

BTW the monkey says you're a scabby bitch! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-28 11:27:01
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Aug 28 2008, 11:14 AM) [snapback]502909[/snapback]
MENTALJAG IN SUN READER SHOCKER

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Keeley's on page 3 again!
mortonjag 2008-08-28 12:48:48
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Aug 28 2008, 10:51 AM) [snapback]502897[/snapback]
I actually got a reply which they took in good humour:

Not sure if you are making a serious enquiry or just taking the mick, I'll assume the former.

These are supplied by the sponsors, Co-Operative Insurance, who will also supply a full-page advertisement for your programme - both pages are part of the League contract with the sponsors for the competition.

We wiz robbed by the way ohmy.gif)

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Refreshing to see graciousness in defeat-a RARITY ON THIS MASSAGE BOARD! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-28 13:01:39
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Aug 28 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]502954[/snapback]
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The 'big man'-are you vertically challenged?

6'1" and 14+ stone (Morton web-site) is "big" in my eyes, certainly compared to some of the light-weights we've had in the midfield in recent years.

But after that goal the phrase "if you're good enough, you're big enough" certainly applies so whether actually or metaphorically; "Well done the big man".

I prefer to use my eyes-he's NEVER 6'1"! Wiki has him at 6'0" and I don't believe that either!!!

The 'big man' is Pantaloons surely.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 13:07:13 How was said bus identified. It wasn't perchance a rather old red mini-bus?
mortonjag 2008-08-28 13:18:54
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Aug 28 2008, 01:10 PM) [snapback]502984[/snapback]
Well he's certainly the biggest (tallest), but maybe we're allowed more than one 'big man' in the team.

Maybe it's just his posture then-he tends to look a bit humpy backed!
mortonjag 2008-08-28 13:57:23
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 28 2008, 08:42 AM) [snapback]502851[/snapback]
Probably in the Sir John Clancy Auditorium in 1972.

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Looking like this in 1972?
mortonjag 2008-08-28 15:26:35
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 28 2008, 02:40 PM) [snapback]503012[/snapback]

Hmm!

I still believe in little pink botty time for knife wielding scum mind you!
mortonjag 2008-08-28 15:35:50
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 28 2008, 02:01 PM) [snapback]503004[/snapback]
No it's not just socialists, some of us Thatcherites would agree.
Perhaps though it is poverty. Poverty of expectation, poverty of ambition, poverty of role models. I bang on here but I think that you may be in aggreement with these ideas too.

Poverty of grey matter primarily.

QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 28 2008, 02:48 PM) [snapback]503018[/snapback]
........ and what about personal repsponsibility? No, I agree, it's easier to blame every man and his dug for your woes rather than look at yourself.

I'm convinced that it is about choice. The choice to smoke, to eat unhealthily, to drink to excess, not to exercise, thay're all individual decisions.

And it's frankly patronising and insulting to those people who come from deprived neighbourhoods and backgrounds that don't fall into this trap to say that those who do are purely a victim of circumstance.

In total agreement. The kind of 'poverty' we hear about in the Scottish Central Belt is inevitably secondary poverty.

There is NOTHING to prevent people from adopting a perfectly healthy lifestyle. It need not be expensive-just about getting priorities right, and there are plenty of folk living in 'deprived' areas who are still able to take a pride in healthy eating, exercise, and a sensible attitude to health issues.

The fact that many do not undoubtedly has numerous origins.

mortonjag 2008-08-28 16:06:04
QUOTE(ShimminTon @ Aug 28 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]502966[/snapback]
Well, Mr Newall should have departed the scene a few years ago, That would have saved us alot of grief on this board. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Mortonjag is fascinated by the use of 'us' in this context.

Mortonjag is fascinated by Shimmin's perception that Mortonjag has no friends.

Mortonjag would prefer Mr Farrell to address Mortonjag as Dr Newall, should he wish to publicise Mortonjag's details on our little massage board.

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mortonjag 2008-08-28 16:14:14
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 28 2008, 03:48 PM) [snapback]503030[/snapback]
And I think you're both talking bollocks, but not totally. Ask yourself why people in Milngave make better lifestyle choices than folk in Milton and you'll say it's down to 'grey matter' I suppose. I say that that's a simplistic presumption.

I don't have to Mr Edwards-I've worked all areas of the city. I've worked in Bridgeton Health Centre, Williamwood Health Centre etc.,etc., and I've done 'out of hours extensively.

Let me assure you that Bearsden, Milngavie, and The Mearns have plenty of inhabitants who deliberately choose to prematurely end their potentially long and opulent existences.

The proportions may vary greatly from one area to another-the difficulty or ease with which a healthy lifestyle may be adopted may also vary greatly, but the choice is still there.

Do you deny that?
mortonjag 2008-08-28 16:33:05
QUOTE(ShimminTon @ Aug 28 2008, 11:08 AM) [snapback]502907[/snapback]
Obviously a closed shop then? You may have no enemies on the Jessie Forum, but I'm sure you've no friends there either! Just wee boys who think you're it - sad really. laugh.gif

I imagine that may be a common mis-perception among Mr Rae's skivvies!

QUOTE(ShimminTon @ Aug 28 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]502933[/snapback]
i'll have to use my other user name. biggrin.gif

Well let me guess-it's not Mabawsa-he's Cowden, and you're not Donkey Dave, Mr Rae's Counter Espionage Agent and putative tally man.

Dammit-you're NOT Turkeykeech are you-or did I just imagine that name. At my age it's perfectly possible you know-all those years of cutting grass and pushing rollers have taken their toll. I'd love to have had a real job-maybe a doctor or lawyer........

What am I havering about-oh yes-your real name. I wonder what on earth your real name could be.

Maybe I'll ask one of the wee boys. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-28 17:04:05
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 28 2008, 04:55 PM) [snapback]503068[/snapback]
No Mr Mentaljag, I do not deny that. Adults have choices, yes, but I say that social and environmental factors can influence and/or limit choices. Do you deny that?

Why ever would I deny the obvious Dr Edwards. I already incorporated that concept into my previous post! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-28 17:13:43 laugh.gif

I believe there may have been white somewhere on the bodywork. We were about ten minutes late, and said bus had turned right off Easter Road and was heading straight for the stadium. They were hanging out the windows and making a helluva rumpus. I saw one Ton scarf-no other colours. My brother's comment was-'I hope the driver's sober'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-28 17:21:21
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 28 2008, 04:38 PM) [snapback]503058[/snapback]
I don't know the context in which that was written, but it doesn't seem too ridiculous to me as a statement.

Well you can either see it as totally unspecified-a strong Trust and a skint owner-or a strong Trust and a mega rich Abramovic style owner, where the outcomes would presumably vary, or you can take it in the context of Measles as 'spokesman' for GMST, referring to Douglas Rae as owner.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 17:26:15
QUOTE(Bryan @ Aug 28 2008, 04:38 PM) [snapback]503057[/snapback]
not in the 16 ph34r.gif

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Believe it or not-their squad was bigger than 16!

Even OURS is! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-28 17:36:07
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Aug 28 2008, 05:29 PM) [snapback]503088[/snapback]
The best thing (the ONLYgood thing in fact) about this thread is the discussion about food.

It's just a shame that it's difficult to be enthusiastic about food when someone's trying to stir the s***....... dry.gif

A leopard can't change its spots - nor, apparently, can a mangy ol' jag..............

Measles accused our Manager of having 'blown the budget, made an arse of it, and displeased the Master'.

Big Doc has affirmed that those allegations are incorrect.

Measles has so far declined to make further comment.

I wonder why.

Not that he'd dream of s*** stirring to pursue a personal agenda! dry.gif

Are you calling Big Doc a liar?
mortonjag 2008-08-28 17:44:18
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 28 2008, 05:38 PM) [snapback]503094[/snapback]
The Daily Record gave £15k as a donation to Labour during the last election.

The stories printed by them are so pro-Labour it's embarrassing. Their editorials sometimes look as if they have been written by a 12 year old.
The Scotsman comes a close second though. And Douglas Fraser from the Herald does his bit for the Labour cause too.

I knew you were easily embarrassed the minute you said you couldn't look at Cliff's bum, Spurtle! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-28 17:47:40
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Aug 28 2008, 05:44 PM) [snapback]503098[/snapback]
Disagree, McGuffie worked his socks off to good effect all game and played just as well as Paartalu and Masterton in keeping a talented Hibs midfield at bay.
Because he is playing as a lone striker, any long ball up to him he tries to challenge for and the good thing is that while he may not always win the header, he does enough to put the defender off, allowing the likes of Newby, McAlister or Russell to latch on.

Precisely-he hardly ever comes out of a challenge without gaining the advantage.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 17:59:24
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 28 2008, 05:50 PM) [snapback]503103[/snapback]
Touche. biggrin.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-28 18:33:24
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Aug 28 2008, 06:07 PM) [snapback]503107[/snapback]
I would much be much more inclined to believe bigdoc. From the info I have Irons did indeed have almost complete autonomy over the budget and unless DDF has said privately to SpotTon or anyone else that he isn't best pleased this may just be s*** stirring.

For the record I am quite pleased with the way Irons has blown his budget.

He has stated that signings are not complete, and that he could take on more staff if he could offload surplus. I don't think the squad is 'the finished article' but I equally don't think he's 'made an arse of it' by a long chalk, as Tuesday night's result tends to confirm.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 18:37:16
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 28 2008, 06:21 PM) [snapback]503115[/snapback]
The answer is there. Weans get programmed by their parents and peer group. Some get programmed to work and study and be a good citizen. Some get programmed to be fat and lazy spongers.

Some overthrow that programming.

Survival of the fittest!
mortonjag 2008-08-28 18:39:13
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 28 2008, 05:28 PM) [snapback]503087[/snapback]
Wiki has this

I've just had beans on toast!


Anyone else hungry? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-28 18:47:58
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 28 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]503102[/snapback]
Tom McB is
a baldy old Tory t***
OK it doesn't rhyme but at least it's factually accurate.

Old Bam may be balding and Tory,
but greets all with 'Comment ca va'?
If only you told the same story...
Your heid's up your je ne sais quoi.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 18:51:16
QUOTE(ShimminTon @ Aug 28 2008, 06:44 PM) [snapback]503132[/snapback]
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I seen your response letter from the S.F.A Mr Newall. laugh.gif

I beg your pardon?
mortonjag 2008-08-28 18:54:46
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 28 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]503136[/snapback]
Is This Common Knowledge Thread with this p1sh happy.gif

....and now I've had a lovely big chocolate brownie washed down with some Earl Grey-gently infused for 2.36 minutes in a pre warmed pot.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 18:56:32
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 28 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]503128[/snapback]
Good craic laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Indeed his cleavage is quite becoming! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-28 19:00:57 I wonder if Measles will ever explain his apparent attack on our Manager.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 19:03:55 Good grief-my partner's now plying me with After Eights-can't he tell the time?
mortonjag 2008-08-28 19:13:52 Do those red dwarves enjoy petit fours-I strongly recommend them.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 19:33:17
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 28 2008, 07:20 PM) [snapback]503156[/snapback]
Has anyone ever been asked where they come from and the attitude of people changed ?

Sure you can't say for sure that weans brought up with the revolving door of uncles , bad parenting , alcoholism , drug abuse poor enviroment will follow that path . However you'd be pretty niave to see these things other than handicaps .
For some there is a failing over many years to address some of the social problems . As DE highlighted are we strong enough to tackle the problem . Certainly the housing should be sorted to many bad schemes have developed due to bad planning and taking the cheap options .

The social aspirations of an area will only improve if those people see that they haven't been abandoned and this will take years . I am a realist and know no politician has the foresight for such a long term commitment .

Chrissiboi-in terms of the original point-that of life expectancy, the three major factors are alcohol, tobacco, and nutrition.

There is a superabundance of Health Education those days, and folk in the most deprived areas are well targeted.

How difficult is it to take advice?

I'm a realist too-I understand this is a complex issue, but the indisputable fact is that those who die prematurely have often deliberately flown in the face of freely available health education.

They ARE ultimately to blame.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 19:40:17 I'm hoping DI took in the Airdrie game last night and will pick the side accordingly.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 19:49:10
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 28 2008, 07:44 PM) [snapback]503168[/snapback]
He was'nt there as he was on Radio Scotland as part of the team in the studio covering the Wednesday cup games and talking at length about our game. I assume though that they would have had video coverage of the game.

Perhaps DC may have gone along.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 20:05:34
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 28 2008, 07:45 PM) [snapback]503170[/snapback]
They are ultimately responsible but not necessarily to blame I'd say. People who work with deprived, neglected and abused children know that the damage inflicted in those crucial, formative years has an aftermath in adulthood. Some can recover sufficiently to lead a worthwhile life but many others can't. The neglected child all too often becomes the criminal or social misfit of the future. It's that very carousel of despair that we have to stop.

Hey you-haud on a minute-I doubt that the good folk of the Calton for all their naughty habits and neglect of available advice would take kindly to them being described as 'deprived, neglected, and abused' as children. Whose perception are we to use?

Something that's worth remembering is that despite the Calton being the worst example of premature death close to home-the Western Belt of Scotland AS A WHOLE does poorly, despite its Bearsdens, Milngavies, and Newting Marnses.

So-just as some see fit to pontificate about deprivation and social injustice on this little massage board, using a big tarry brush for all who die prematurely, others in distant climes may read their broadsheets and assume that the entire population of Inverclyde is-shall we say-a wee bit coffin friendly!

mortonjag 2008-08-28 20:24:17 Will he be up for it do you think?

Perhaps he'll bring a friend along to watch.

Hopefully it won't be a big let down.


C'MON YE WILLY MAN!

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mortonjag 2008-08-28 21:14:59
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 28 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]503209[/snapback]
Let the figures speak for themselves: Life expectancy in Milngavie = 78 years. Calton= 53 years. Your answer? The folk in Milngavie are smarter and make better lifestyle choices. Why? I'll tell you , for the last time. The causes are manifold and complex, but there is no doubt that there is a direct correlation between social deprivation (not just poverty) and health, and crime, and educational achievement, and social success / mobility etc etc etc.

Very true, but the ultimate cause (now I suspect this is knotty) of their shortened lifespans is that they are too thick to benefit from what's available-certainly in terms of health and wellbeing.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 21:36:16 It's strange-we have the benefit of a video replay and we still 'think' it was or wasn't a penalty.

I'd say that vindicates the Ref!
mortonjag 2008-08-28 21:45:31
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 28 2008, 09:37 PM) [snapback]503224[/snapback]
Aye MJ I know that there are some who do rise above the aspirations of their upbringing . The scurge of addiction seems to hit those who are at the bottom of the social ladder . Plenty of alcoholics in Milgarve and even the Mearns but these people usually have a higher income so their addiction is masked more .

I agree with DE that it will take more baws and ability than any political will on show by the present incumbrants .

You can't tell me that kids who spend their formative years looking after their parents while they jag up . Kicked a junkie off the bus one day for grabbing a hold on his wee boy . The wee fella kept the money , as both parents were junkies . Now living with that looking after a younger sister is nothing but tragic .

You've seen some of it first hand and so have I. I remember back in the MID EIGHTIES seeing weans playing oot the back in Possil at four in the morning!

It doesn't alter the fact that the means to a healthy and long life are available, nor does it alter the fact that nobody deprives them-far from it-they are encouraged, insofar as they will accept encouragement, to adopt healthy lifestyles.

They ARE given a choice and for whatever reason (primarily lack of intellect) many choose the easy option and the shorter lifespan.

Perhaps I should add that I've almost invariably found those very folk to be far more gracious to me than the inhabitants of the wealthy suburbs, who make damned sure they get, get, get!
mortonjag 2008-08-28 22:30:21
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Aug 28 2008, 10:12 PM) [snapback]503244[/snapback]
Save that one for the gullible amongst us.laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

You disbelieve me Anus?

The truth is gradually dawning on the masses-many on this little massage board consult Mortonjag in private, and are grateful for his vast experience entirely free of charge!

Please feel free to p.m. Mortonjag at any time and he assures you of excellent and impartial advice, irrespective of knotty things you may have called him. The same applies to all of Mortonjag's detractors. It's all to do with professional standards and ethics Anus. We are all Morton fans you know. If a Midden fan asked for advice he'd get it, and wouldn't wake up to tell the tale! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-29 07:47:23
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 29 2008, 04:30 AM) [snapback]503340[/snapback]
No way,Jose.

The high rise behind is the addition to the Faculty of Medicine.

Wissnae there in 1972.

And no flag pole either.

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We now have many Poles in Scotland too!
mortonjag 2008-08-29 07:49:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 29 2008, 04:35 AM) [snapback]503342[/snapback]
Gidday TrumpingTon,

naw, mate, MJ has a manger.

He's had it since birth.

Jesus Newt, I hope Measles hasn't been impounded!
mortonjag 2008-08-29 07:51:24
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 29 2008, 12:22 AM) [snapback]503324[/snapback]
How sad.

You clearly have an affinity for poosies GG.

Again, I like your poosy! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-29 08:02:16 The dreadful life expectancy in the Calton has indeed a complex infrastructure.

One thing is clear to me. The folk of the Calton DO have at their disposal the MEANS to a longer and healthier life. For various reasons they choose not to avail themselves of opportunity, and that attitude spills over into other areas also.

It IS their choice.
mortonjag 2008-08-29 08:14:49 Today's Herald
mortonjag 2008-08-29 08:21:46
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 29 2008, 07:58 AM) [snapback]503354[/snapback]
Corn flakes...then I reckon maybe some toast depending on time. smile.gif

After the corn flakes, you could venture an opinion on the original question asked, though I've noticed young man, that for all your assertions about being 'a bright lad', your intellectual immaturity has to date destined you to non committal one liners and 'clever' little thefts from Photobucket.

A 'smart-ass' answer will confirm my perception.

mortonjag 2008-08-29 08:25:01
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 28 2008, 10:31 PM) [snapback]503257[/snapback]
GET THE f*** OUT OF MY LIFE.

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mortonjag 2008-08-29 08:30:54
QUOTE(longboat @ Aug 29 2008, 08:24 AM) [snapback]503359[/snapback]
The way that Erik falls after being hit in the air by Hogg may have been a different story had he fallen on his neck. Erik was already in the air and turning his back. Hogg could have pulled out any time. 50:50 ball was there to be won.

Mixamatosis claims an assault? Is libel still a word in Scotland?

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It is indeed, and so is 'opinion'!
mortonjag 2008-08-29 08:36:56
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 28 2008, 10:00 PM) [snapback]503239[/snapback]

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Especially the 'GIRUY FATTY'


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mortonjag 2008-08-29 08:49:53
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 29 2008, 08:20 AM) [snapback]503357[/snapback]
Sure it is. But the weans don't have much of one, and by the time they grow up their judgement has been skewed. Nevertheless, that's a reason, not an excuse. A lot of folk who grow up in these areas come out as good citizens. On this issue I think I'm in general agreement with Davie (used to have two hooses) McArthur. biggrin.gif

'Their judgement has been skewed'! unsure.gif

Their ultimate perception is of fags, booze, gambling, junk food gluttony, promiscuity, unprotected sex, sloth, and living 'aff the social' being the correct way to live.

..............and who are we to disagree?

Who wants to live to 50 when you can enjoy yourself now, and let's face it, 'Whit's fur ye'll no go by ye'! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-29 08:59:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 28 2008, 09:57 PM) [snapback]503237[/snapback]
Don't bite...he's having a go at me being part of taking over another thread about talk about what we are having for each meal laugh.gif

That's right!

OK for the little children, but not for the Jag.

I'm just off for my porridge-properly prepared by soaking raw oatmeal in water overnight, and brought through the boil while stirring occasionally with a spurtle.

After that I'll do the Herald Crossword (19 minutes yesterday was longer than usual), and then-oh I'm not sure. It's wonderful to be retired and get all that lovely MUNNY for doing f*ck all while kids with two bit qualifications from two bit Unis are desperately disseminating CV's in the hope that some mug might be daft enough to employ them.

Sorry-I digressed-I WAS having a go. Hi-jacking legitimate threads is somewhat infantile. I'm sure you'll agree.

Yum yum-that was good-crossword done too-feel free to p.m. for any clues you can't work out! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-29 09:34:51
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 29 2008, 09:27 AM) [snapback]503376[/snapback]
Puggsy's Law of Physics

Toast depends on time.

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Is the relationship inversely proportional ?

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Hopefully-it's very difficult, though not impossible to self perform the Heimlich Manoeuvre.
mortonjag 2008-08-29 09:36:44
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Aug 29 2008, 09:20 AM) [snapback]503374[/snapback]
Okayyyy....

ive sent out about 15 or so PMs with a compressed version to let everyone start enjoying it.

even if the ones who get it can avoid battering my own webspace and will then use "yousendit" to get a link to pass onto more people that would be great..

Cheers to jamie..

enjoy!

NEWTON, yer inbox is full!

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mortonjag 2008-08-29 09:47:21 That ShimminTon c*nt is Mark Farrell
who shovels bird sh1t by the barrel
and all that I ask
is he 'stick to the task'
and leave it to others to quarrel dry.gif



mortonjag 2008-08-29 10:14:29
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Aug 29 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]503391[/snapback]
Mortonjag is a pure bender
who sooks boab for legal tender
he'll take u oot back
n fill in yer crack
as long as male is your gender

And no one knows better than Thrax
the power that old Jaggy's knob packs,
and (not that it matters)
his arse is in tatters..
he shouldn't be messing with Quacks.
mortonjag 2008-08-29 10:21:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 29 2008, 10:09 AM) [snapback]503394[/snapback]
Should I not write to Mr Donald first ?

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Alistair Anderson Donald Esq.,
Director,
Greenock Morton F.C.,
Out of the Country
OI1 2CU
mortonjag 2008-08-29 10:26:18
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 29 2008, 10:09 AM) [snapback]503395[/snapback]
Is that a compliment from MJ !!???? I'm touched blush.gif

Of course it is!

I really enjoyed that. thumbup2.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-29 10:47:10
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Aug 29 2008, 10:42 AM) [snapback]503412[/snapback]
i think ive done everyone on this thread and loads of people i seen logged in this morning...

if you can stick it in yousendit.com or something like that for the rest, that would be smashing.

good way to start a friday ph34r.gif

I've already watched it TY!

Amusing to see the Hibees fans sneaking oot near the end! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-29 10:51:37
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Aug 29 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]503401[/snapback]
That really was a witty reply
from a man who makes lil boys cry
and now this feud
is going to conclude
with me saying your not such a bad guy

Hey Thraxy there wasn't a feud
I paid and the shagging was good
I know you feel glum
with that tattered wee bum
I'd kiss it right now if I could! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-29 10:54:53
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 29 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]503409[/snapback]
I'm not going out of my way for them, they always seem to find me! smile.gif

Poosies are like that-they have their own minds-Mortonjag approves of such!
mortonjag 2008-08-29 10:56:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 29 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]503399[/snapback]
With a copy to Sugar Rae
c/- The Torpedo Factory
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c/o Peter Stahl
Germany!
mortonjag 2008-08-29 10:58:01
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 29 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]503406[/snapback]
You dont listen to anyone, so why do you insist that other people listen ?

A serious question for you Sir.

If Mortonjag 'doesn't listen to anyone', where do you think he acquired his vast and comprehensive knowledge? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-29 11:00:45
QUOTE(ViolaTon @ Aug 29 2008, 10:51 AM) [snapback]503416[/snapback]
Tisnae, actually. Defamation it'd be, if anything.

Tis-I just checked Chambers! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-29 11:02:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 29 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]503422[/snapback]
The man who scored.

I was THERE- fantastic game in which Pat Stanton broke his wrist. Unfortunately our defence collapsed in the final.
mortonjag 2008-08-29 11:04:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 29 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]503418[/snapback]
http://www.mightyleeds.co.uk/players/collins5.htm
"Morton was a two man band comprising Hal Stewart, chief executive and part owner, and Eric Smith, the coach, a hardened former professional … Stewart was part shrewd football man, part entrepreneur. In some ways, he was decades ahead of his time. If he was alive today, I suspect his mouth would be permanently watering over the money making potential around every corner … He kept Morton alight by buying players cheap and selling them at decent profits, and in this he successfully raided the untapped Scandinavian market, one notable success being the goalkeeper Erik Sorensen, whom he moved on to Rangers. Per Bartram, who went on to Crystal Palace, was another. It was obvious that anyone who signed for Morton would not lack the backing of some good supporting salesmanship if he showed the potential to move into a higher sphere of the game.

"Smith was a pure old football man, flinty in his attitude to the game but with a generous spirit. He survived the free wheeling regime of Stewart better than most. Stewart saw Morton as both his plaything and his cash cow. When the mood took him, he would march into the dressing room with the team list he had drawn up exclusively on the basis of his own judgement. Smith shrugged his shoulders and got on with his job as best he could."

Bobby Collins made his Morton debut in August 1969 in a 1-0 League Cup win over St Mirren, saying afterwards, "That was really hectic out there. Is every match as helter skelter? I couldn't get a breather. Down south they play it across the park until an opening shows and then it's all go for goal. Out there it was the through ball all the time with everyone chasing it like mad. I'm a bit behind the others in training and games but I'll catch up fast. I'll have to if that pace is the general yardstick."

He soon came to terms with the style of play and featured in 28 of the 34 games as Morton finished in mid table. Collins had the chance to visit all his old haunts and thoroughly enjoyed his return, particularly one memorable day against Rangers at Ibrox.

It was the last game of the season, April 18 1970, and Rangers had long since seen Celtic claim yet another championship, their fifth in succession. Morton enjoyed one of the greatest days in their history, emerging 2-0 victors.

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And Hal shunned the limelight!

How things have changed, and not for the better!
mortonjag 2008-08-29 11:39:03
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 29 2008, 11:05 AM) [snapback]503431[/snapback]
Where ?

Ibrox ?

On Monday 14 October, 1963 ?

AYE!
mortonjag 2008-08-29 12:40:02
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 29 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]503460[/snapback]
Could it be that the "MESSAGE" about healthy living which gets to the majority doesn't work for others and rather than looking on saying that they have made a choice , all be it the wrong ones . There needs to be a proactive movement to say that the system isin't working in places like Carlton .

Surely looking at alternatives must be better than pontificating on statistics .

Chrissiboi, the people who are the focus of those awful statistics DO know what they need to change, so you're correct-the message is ignored, and sure it would be great to find a way whereby that would not happen.

I don't have any immediate 'cure'. I'm afraid there is only a certain amount of 'mollycoddling' available within the budgetary constrains of the State Health System.

Ultimately you can take a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
mortonjag 2008-08-29 13:32:04
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 29 2008, 01:02 PM) [snapback]503486[/snapback]
The two of you humping like dugs,
Is a thought that would turn me to drugs,
Morphine, bennys - the lot,
Twenty acres of pot,
And a Prozac drip serviced by jugs.

TonInDublin

If that's what you want I'm 'yer man'
The pot's hidden under the pan
The coke's in a poke
The smack's up ma crack
Ill bring it across in the van

But everything comes at a price
I'll need a good shag at least twice
I don't need your money
Just go like a bunny
I hope you've an arse like a vice
mortonjag 2008-08-29 13:48:01
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 29 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]503479[/snapback]
Just curious about this.

I noted MortonJag suggesting he was giving medical advise in response to PMs.

The professional body of which I am a member would censure me for such actions as it would leave me exposed from an insurance point of view.

The classic example being never to give a casual opinion on something which may be taken as professional advice and relied upon in case it is flawed.

Is it different for the medical profession?

What is the nature of your profession, and which professional body would censure you if I asked you in good faith for some advice which you gave me on the implicit understanding that you were not acting in any way in a professional capacity-merely passing on help from your own experience?

It's also worth noting that I have retired from active practice.
mortonjag 2008-08-29 14:58:33
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 29 2008, 01:55 PM) [snapback]503515[/snapback]
Sorry MJ. No criticism or suggestion of wrongdoing intended. My apologies if it seemed that way. Just curious if there are any guidelines for medical professionals on this topic. smile.gif

I'm a member of the RICS.



No apologies needed!

Firstly, and most importantly in relation to our wee massage board, there is no way that my passing on my experience in my retirement to my 'friends' could be remotely construed as a 'doctor - patient relationship'. Indeed the doctors who pass on advice in the tabloids-even in response to letters from readers-are not viewed in that capacity.

If I was in active practice, however, I would still be entirely at liberty to give advice here if I so desired, provided there was no attempt to 'poach' patients from other practitioners. Again, the crucial issue is that bona fide advice given on an informal internet message board is just that, and in no way constitutes a 'contract' governed by terms of service.

So far as I recall, ALL advice (and it is extensive and sometimes 'nit picking') given by the Medical Defence Societies relates solely to a doctor's relationship with his patients, and that's the nub of the matter.
mortonjag 2008-08-29 15:41:19
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 29 2008, 03:12 PM) [snapback]503560[/snapback]
Thanks for the response MJ.

Presumably, though, people are asking your advise on the basis of your profession.

They could expect, reasonably, to be able to rely on that advice. Are there any implications to you if you are wrong?

I take your point about TV/ newspaper advice though.

RICS members, for instance, are expected to maintain PI insurance cover. To act outwith this cover can be a disciplinary matter.

I suppose it's different for Doctors because much initial diagnosis is based on educated guesswork anyway? (no offence intended!)

All practising doctors in Britain have to registered with the GMC. Those in employment, or contracted to a Health Board require to have valid indemnity insurance. I'm not clear about the rules for private practice, but given the ever present possibility of litigation, only a fool would practise without it.

People on this massage board know I have retired from my profession. I'd hope they expect to be able to rely on advice I give in that capacity, but there are no implications of any kind whatsoever if 'I am wrong' as the advice is given to the best of my knowledge and belief on a bona fide basis. I take particular care only to give advice on matters of which I have up to date knowledge, and always state quite plainly if I am unable to assist.

Mind you, if I asked a retired surveyor in good faith what roof cladding would be best for my bungalow, and in good faith he recommended an outdated fabric, I reckon I'd be too embarrassed at my stupidity in trusting him, to even think about redress!

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mortonjag 2008-08-29 15:56:11
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 29 2008, 12:49 PM) [snapback]503481[/snapback]
No man should be without, even pouffes have had a poosey on top of them.

Poosies are partial to POUFFES and all soft furnishings!
mortonjag 2008-08-29 15:59:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 29 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]503522[/snapback]
Aren't you the cutest old man I know happy.gif

You don't, and it shows! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-29 16:17:49
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 29 2008, 02:59 PM) [snapback]503549[/snapback]
Perhaps the runt of the litter has been muzzled by its master . His barking does seem to have made him look like a pedigree chump .


I'm sure I recognise that suit!
mortonjag 2008-08-29 16:24:44
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 29 2008, 04:04 PM) [snapback]503578[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif A very irate Hibee posted a comment on the YouTube comment page.

Hibs 3 Morton 4

f*** off ya wee pishy c***s. Whens the dvd coming out then?? You's were handed than win by the ref, end off. Also good to see a few of your boys getting a right kick-in after the match. GLASGOW WEEGIE SCUM!

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mortonjag 2008-08-29 16:28:00
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 29 2008, 04:15 PM) [snapback]503580[/snapback]
Roof are meant to leak - I have it on good authority! biggrin.gif

So are retired GP's willies! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-29 18:56:36 C'mon guys-short memories-still less than a year since 75% had 'total confidence in his ability'! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-29 18:58:59
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 29 2008, 04:52 PM) [snapback]503592[/snapback]
Bring back Cruella DeVille biggrin.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-29 19:26:40
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Aug 29 2008, 04:49 PM) [snapback]503589[/snapback]
Trumpton is indeed correct. There is case law to support against giving any advice whether friendly and in good faith or otherwise without appropriate PII. I think the case law from memory surrounds a Chartered Surveyor who was asked informally by his golf club to recommend some works needing done in the clubhouse. In laymans terms the advice went tits up and the golf club sued the surveyor. The surveyor claimed he was only asked advice as a friend and it was given with good intention. It was found he was liable and professional advice is professional advice no matter the intention with which it was given.

Crazy as the world is, giving out medical advice in any capacity may leave you open to liability if someone takes it upon themself to sue.

Edit to add I would also imagine that the website would have some liability too for not undertaking the necessary due dilligence in verifying the accuracy of your advice or is that taking things too far? To my knowledge, a disclaimer stating that the views of posters are not necessarily those of the website, blah, blah does not remove a duty of care on the website.

The whole thing is being taken too far, and as Trumpton correctly pointed out it is invalid to compare the two professions. Find me some medical case law to prove your point!

Anyhow I'd love to know how one is asked 'informally' by a Golf Club. That is quite clearly NOT a bona fide person to person interaction. The very existence of the Golf Club as an institution throws doubt on the wisdom of the surveyor to 'give friendly advice'.

Back to a retired NON PRACTISING doctor, or ANY retired Professional giving advice to a friend. That is quite different.

Having said that, where are you going to draw the line. It's quite amusing really when you think that every occupation those days is regarded as a 'Profession'. I guess I could ask a garbologist for friendly advice on the best way to move a full wheelie bin, and then sue him if HIS advice 'went tits up' and I fractured a big toe! Professional advice is, after all, professional advice, no matter the intention with which it is given. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Funny old world eh. I'd like to hear the views of some seasoned professionals. I know for example that Tonsilitis has offered advice before, and I would certainly avail myself of his services if needed, accepting totally that he was giving his professional OPINION in good faith. If things went 'tits up' I'd take the attitude that I had accepted bona fide advice, and it was a case of Mea Culpa, or Caveat Emptor if you will.

I'd really like to read a full transcript of that Golf Course story. The Medical Defence Societies used to publish 'once in a million cases' just to keep folk on their toes and safeguard their own coffers!
mortonjag 2008-08-29 19:30:52
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 29 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]503590[/snapback]
You're not cute? Deego said you were sad.gif

Basic grammatical error YET again. Will you ever stop putting your foot in it? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-29 19:36:47 Airdrie beating Hearts was a bigger result than our beating Hibs (unless you think Airdrie are much better than us).

They will be full of confidence and so will we. I honestly can't split the two.

2-2 for me. Wakey's due another and how about one from the rejuvenated Jimbo?
mortonjag 2008-08-30 06:28:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 29 2008, 10:08 PM) [snapback]503677[/snapback]
Is 75% the new code for Sugar Rae, then ?

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QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 29 2008, 10:28 PM) [snapback]503694[/snapback]
Where are all the JM lovers , gathering more common knowledge rolleyes.gif

I'd imagine they're having a look about.
mortonjag 2008-08-30 06:32:12
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 29 2008, 10:56 PM) [snapback]503706[/snapback]
Depends if you like crusts or not

That presupposes possession of the upper crust in the 'half a loaf' proposition.
mortonjag 2008-08-30 06:38:02
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 29 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]503636[/snapback]
A similar achievement but not bigger surely? Also, we went their and scored 4 whereas they achieved their result by shutting up shop.........again!

They seem to have a well sorted defence but not much upfront. A bit like my wife

I was thinking in terms of the current form of the two Embra sides and the fact that Airdrie came up from the second division quite unprepared.

Does your wife go off the boil after a good performance? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-30 06:44:55
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 30 2008, 03:38 AM) [snapback]503774[/snapback]
Pink ?

Is it not Fuchsia ?

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You'd think our Groundsman would know all about flowers an fingz!


mortonjag 2008-08-30 06:52:34
QUOTE(SramTon @ Aug 30 2008, 12:05 AM) [snapback]503739[/snapback]
I'm sure there is case law concerning this. If I remember correctly it basically comes down to contract.

If the conduct of the parties and the nature of the advice etc is such that it is given in the effective context of a professional:client relationship then a contract can potentially be considered to exist and the appropriate standards of care will kick in.

Without wishing to retread the ground of the infamous "Chris Innes thread". There is basically an agreement between the person who seeks the advice and the person who agrees to provide it, whether that is sufficient to create legal obligations depends on the nature of the agreement.

Obviously the foregoing is just my interpretation, is given in a non-professional capacity, does not reflect the views of this messageboard or its moderators, and should not be considered to constitute a legal agreement or advice. Professional advice should be sought from a legal practice. smile.gif

laugh.gif So you don't know!

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 30 2008, 12:10 AM) [snapback]503741[/snapback]
My advice is don't give advice unless you're paid for it. That way you might at least be able to keep up the P.I. premiums. biggrin.gif

Sounds like good honest Capitalism to me Mr Edwards.

I take it then, that you never proffer a friendly professional tip! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-30 06:56:14
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 29 2008, 09:39 PM) [snapback]503668[/snapback]
Is it because I didn't say 'are'?

Believe me, I know what I meant smile.gif

Let me guess:

You meant to be profound? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-30 06:57:43 I've seen your picture before. It does not answer my question.
mortonjag 2008-08-30 07:05:02 Federal prosecutors said Deck and Herson pleaded guilty to conspiracy to vandalize government property



IMPROVE

Who the hell is MUNK, BTW? The chap below is MUNX!
mortonjag 2008-08-30 07:09:16
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Aug 29 2008, 08:02 PM) [snapback]503638[/snapback]
Did you read in the Telegraph last night about that man up at Greenock Sheriff Court on Wednesday stood accused of putting weetabix and spagetti hoops down the pants of an underage girl before performing a sex act on her ? Absolutely bizarre...and sick, however, he's not been found guilty of anything and denies it.

Some children have fertile imaginations.
mortonjag 2008-08-30 07:30:41
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 29 2008, 11:54 PM) [snapback]503736[/snapback]
Despite what you think, I'm no bender,
And the thought of you bumping my fender,
Makes my baws disappear,
In the same way its clear
As thrax giving you a rear ender.

So I'll leave you to plunder his bum,
And tickle his flute with your gums,
What you do with your mickey,
Though frightful and tricky,
Is best kept between you two chums

TonInDublin


My cynical riposte's- 'Aye-right'
Your tadger's no stranger to sh1te
You're always insisting
On rimming and fisting
Before banging ass with delight.

So don't come on here smug and holy
While well into male roly poly
With boxers that pong
Of Yves St. Laurent
And testicles tainted with toly.
mortonjag 2008-08-30 07:56:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 30 2008, 07:04 AM) [snapback]503786[/snapback]
Is Spotty's seat in the grandstand at Cappielow seat K9 ?

I wonder what turnstile he uses.

Is he a he ?

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Hey Newt-pedigree dugs all have their inbred faults-Labs, for example tend to have dodgy eyes and hips, while Dalmatians notoriously suffer from premature deafness! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-30 08:02:10
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 30 2008, 07:10 AM) [snapback]503789[/snapback]
This will do me.

Are you a pacifist Newt?

mortonjag 2008-08-30 08:09:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 30 2008, 07:12 AM) [snapback]503790[/snapback]
Just found this site:

http://www.scottishleague.net/morton/scott...%20clubpage.htm

18,842 at Cappielow and Alibi was there.

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As was yours truly!

Here's a wee story. On the way to the Hibs game, my youngest brother was recalling his first match at Cappielow. In those days the first team and the reserves often played the same opponents at the same time. Because he was just 'a wee boy' another brother took him to see the reserves at Cappielow against Dundee United. He remembers we won 2-0 before a crowd of OVER 2000!!!

As they were leaving, the result from Tannadice came over the tannoy. Morton had won handsomely scoring SIX in the process!


Can it be that it was all so simple then?

Ah could greet!
mortonjag 2008-08-30 08:13:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 30 2008, 07:18 AM) [snapback]503791[/snapback]
How does he stop Spotty piddling on the pitch ?

I doubt if measles ever gets off the leash. Why should he get any more freedom than the rest of them?
mortonjag 2008-08-30 08:19:37
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 30 2008, 07:53 AM) [snapback]503796[/snapback]
He told me to call him Munk sad.gif

He says many things when he's a bit tipsy.
mortonjag 2008-08-30 08:21:59
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Aug 29 2008, 11:55 PM) [snapback]503737[/snapback]
His Penis Capitulated? He has a tech man for that? When you say "tech man" you mean a fluffer don't you? He is knocking on a bit! happy.gif

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Pinprick c*ck!
mortonjag 2008-08-30 08:28:41
QUOTE(axeman @ Aug 29 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]503610[/snapback]
Back Row Gerry Sweeney, Sugar Osborne, John Murray, Erik Sorensen, Stan Rankin, Lief Nielsen,

Denis Laughton, Billy McDerment, Joe Mason

Middle Row Eric Smith, George Anderson, Ernie Hannigan, Davie Hayes, George O'Neill, Hal Stewart

Front Row John Lavelle, Mick Hepburn, ?, Bobby Collins

Kieran McAnespie's alter ego?
mortonjag 2008-08-30 08:58:03
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 29 2008, 10:21 PM) [snapback]503690[/snapback]
Perhaps Spotty and SmithsTON are away together ?

SmithsTON is yet to clarify how GC is the greatest source of Ton income.

Perhaps they pay 200,000 pounds a season for shirt sponsorship ?

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I'm beginning to think it wasn't common knowledge after all! Here are some more of his utterances. unsure.gif




'Spot will run naked around Cappielow pursuing Cappie the Cat if Irons proves to be the signing of the season.'


'We are playing no better under Irons than we did with McInally'


'...we are no better off under him than we were with McInally. If he does have the ability we need to motivate the players then it's time for him to step up to the mark or else we will see a new management team at the beginning of next season'


'It's fear that drives me not to criticise him too much. The last majority shareholder who was criticised by the fans decided enough was enough and we ended up with HS'

followed by...


It's time for change and the responsibility for that lies with the only constant at this club and that's the fans. They have to demand change and they can't do that divided. They need a strong voice to speak for them'



Now-just in case anybody is wondering what Measles meant by that 'strong voice'-he was referring to the Trust!


What bizarre sayings Measles produces! blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-30 09:03:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 30 2008, 08:38 AM) [snapback]503812[/snapback]
He was tipsy? I was blaming it on the rohypnol he had given me!

...this makes it all ok now biggrin.gif

How much did he charge you?

Fing's chief dealer-Munx just dabbles.
mortonjag 2008-08-30 09:06:04 Hmm.


Nothing like pushing it under the carpet again.

Bungling homophobic bureaucrats. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-30 09:09:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 29 2008, 10:40 PM) [snapback]503700[/snapback]
She has 5 children.

I make no comment on their names.

Track

Bristol

Willow

Piper

Trig Paxson Van

Obviously the last sprog was the product of a groupie shag.
mortonjag 2008-08-30 09:13:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 30 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]503821[/snapback]
As long as his bark is worse than his bite.

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Whose bark-Measles' or the Trust's, or wait...


Could they be one and the same thing? huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-30 09:58:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 30 2008, 09:35 AM) [snapback]503834[/snapback]
+ sausages and beans

+ burgers

+ drinking
Dr MJ,

are you concerned about the apparent lack of fruit and vegetables in Puggsy's diet ?


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Not at all-he may become a Calton statistic if he wishes. Don't forget-as he often reminds us- he's a 'bright lad', so on his head be it! laugh.gif

QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 30 2008, 09:38 AM) [snapback]503835[/snapback]
You really seem to be taking Spot's 'off the cuff' comments to heart and far too seriously. I'd be more concerned about what the club are actually saying over the matter. 6 pages this thread has ran to ffs rolleyes.gif
Nice refreshing bowl of Weetabix, with a smattering of semi-skimmed milk for me this morning. smile.gif

That's your problem young man-too many of you jump down the Jag's throat for what he SEEMS TO be saying.

You'd be 'more concerned about the Club's version'-aye very good-is that not very similar to my challenging him? mad.gif

There is nothing remotely 'off the cuff' about the Sayings of Measles, Naitch; mark my words. He pursued a bitter sniping anti Jag agenda from the moment Jag started to ask questions of, and criticise his beloved Trust.

As you may have noticed, the Jag doesn't take kindly to verbal assault, and in consequence has thoroughly researched all of Measles' utterances. Some, I may say, read like mini sermons!

A picture has emerged with amazing clarity. I don't need to reveal Spotty's identity. I've invited him back more than once to confirm that his diatribe against the Manager was based on 'common knowledge', and he hasn't so far uttered a whimper.

RIGHT.

I think I'll have some Muesli with 'the 1%' milk and some chopped banana on top. That'll set me up nicely for the trip to my old stamping ground! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-30 10:10:58
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 30 2008, 09:39 AM) [snapback]503836[/snapback]
Is it an omen? I'll tell you after the Third Round draw. tongue.gif wink.gif

Is that a fact? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-30 10:13:57
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 30 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]503838[/snapback]
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JM does have all the attributes to be an 'ok' manager, but he has found his level and should do a relatively good job at ES.

Off topic-aye very good son!


I'm half way through that Muesli-damn-had to wipe some milk off the keyboard there- and those Fyffes bananas are just the thing. Bananas are very good for cheering one up-something to do with chemicals in the brain I'm told. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-30 10:18:40
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 30 2008, 09:17 AM) [snapback]503830[/snapback]
Very poor taste, MJ.

The wee boy was born on April 18, 2008 with an extra chromosome.

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Might have been in poor taste if I'd known that Newt. I honestly thought that was the child's full name. American children often have bizarre names. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-30 10:21:51 She looks attractive in the earlier picture. Would I shag her?

Well, being utterly frank, I probably would, but I'd much rather shag an attractive woman of integrity.
mortonjag 2008-08-30 10:36:39
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 30 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]503848[/snapback]
Of course I do. I never take my own advice.

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mortonjag 2008-08-30 12:12:51
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 30 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]503851[/snapback]
Neither would you of course !! happy.gif

Correct.

QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 30 2008, 10:57 AM) [snapback]503854[/snapback]
Although the Trust can only speak for it's members and not the supporters . It would be nice to get an answer to some questions the AD situation , a timetable for a return to full SFA development status

Indeed

QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Aug 30 2008, 11:00 AM) [snapback]503856[/snapback]
I haven't read all of this but is the case that of

The TRUST is not to be TRUSTED [b],.
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Its really all becomming a bit too murky. ph34r.gif


Perhaps 'entrusted' would be more accurate!
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 30 2008, 11:09 AM) [snapback]503859[/snapback]
Not really as I'd be surprised if Spot does have any connections to the club. You'd be better contacting your beloved chairman to have these questions answered. wink.gif tongue.gif
I've heard it all now. laugh.gif

We all remember DDFR 'praising' the OF fans and how we should be more like them...I'm glad to see you've taken their stance in the paranoia stakes. smile.gif

SO typical of yourself and many others.

WHY would you be surprised?

WHAT do you mean by 'connections with the club'.

Proof is required including proof of your allegations of paranoia.

Another one who doesn't like what the Jag says, and for NO BETTER REASON, AND WITH NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER tries to discredit carefully formed opinion.

I rarely use the all too common expression, but


'GROW UP' son. happy.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-30 12:20:00
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 30 2008, 11:04 AM) [snapback]503858[/snapback]
Ahh, see you're in a condescending mood this morning. That bodes well... rolleyes.gif

Puerile posts crave condescension!
mortonjag 2008-08-30 12:22:09
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Aug 30 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]503865[/snapback]
Where are all the MJ lovers? Oh... look no further.

Did you think that up all by yourself?

WOW! shutup.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-30 12:32:07
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 29 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]503640[/snapback]
Guilty or not, he'll not be able to walk around Greenock again

SEIG HEIL! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Aug 30 2008, 11:03 AM) [snapback]503857[/snapback]
And some adults sick ones. mad.gif

Hang the f***er (if he's found guilty)

You're very vengeful!

WDE said he was 'not found guilty of anything'.

It's POSSIBLE he was the victim of a stitch up!


Anyway-just in case you think I'm getting soft I'd flog knife wielding thugs within an inch of their lives, castrate all convicted paedos if they don't accept hormone treatment, and behead everybody who disagrees with Mortonjag.
mortonjag 2008-08-30 12:36:56
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 30 2008, 12:19 PM) [snapback]503870[/snapback]
Oh, far from it. It's not 'what' you say, it's 'how' you say it. Your approach to everything you post (by that I mean your insistence on saying something 20 times when once would suffice) dilutes what are often very good points.

So you agree with me after all. I knew you weren't daft. wink.gif

mortonjag 2008-08-30 17:58:21 That is all.
mortonjag 2008-08-31 06:42:41
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 30 2008, 06:59 PM) [snapback]504297[/snapback]
So Douglas, what you gonna do about it then?

No Alistair-what are YOU going to do!

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 30 2008, 07:06 PM) [snapback]504304[/snapback]
Why are they still smiling ?? mad.gif

They are trying to cheer their Daddy up!
mortonjag 2008-08-31 06:47:00
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Aug 30 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]503885[/snapback]
Premature what?

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mortonjag 2008-08-31 06:59:11 To get back to the beginning-Measles made a rather unpleasant sounding attack on DI. Measles, unlike Mortonjag-HAS an agenda.

He was challenged, and surprisingly backed off claiming it was 'common knowledge' that DI had 'blown his budget, made and arse of it, and wouldn't get the chance again'.

When challenged yet again, he sunk to even lower depths by pathetically claiming he had been 'angling'. He hasn't been seen since.

For what it's worth there may well be a grain of truth in Measles assertion-maybe more than a grain.

What are you thinking now Measles-can you not TRUST yourself to post any more?
mortonjag 2008-08-31 07:15:52
QUOTE(rawheed rex @ Aug 30 2008, 08:34 PM) [snapback]504377[/snapback]
is it the case that tuesday was more about our lads playing for a deal from mixu.
because thay havent played like that for morton this seaon. and if thay did we would be sitting top of the f***ing pops

That is quite possible IMO-especially in the case of Jimbo.
mortonjag 2008-08-31 07:27:05
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 30 2008, 11:06 PM) [snapback]504519[/snapback]
I understand those may well be 'heat of the moment' comments but...
...why did McInally get so much time in the job, yet Irons is getting grief barely 6 months into his tenure?

It might just be a feature of the apparent inability of the average fan ever to see the big picture.

There was, after all, 'Only One Davie Irons' on Tuesday night.

At least I'm sure I heard them singing that, but I'm getting a bit corned beef.
mortonjag 2008-08-31 07:38:49
QUOTE(Gordon Ottershaw @ Aug 30 2008, 09:52 PM) [snapback]504469[/snapback]
couldn't make it today but i remember morton losing 7-0 v clydebank then beating Dundee (then league leaders) 3-0 the next week!
takes more than a couple of swallows to make a season!

It was extremely hard to swallow-but you are correct. THis time last year we were doing 'no bad' and JM was still the 'bees knees' for over 75% of posters. Maybe this will prove to be our all time low under DI.

QUOTE(Trust Member @ Aug 31 2008, 12:42 AM) [snapback]504643[/snapback]
Embarrasing, humiliating, shocking.
I am concerned by the people saying lets not get too upset as it was a one-off.
I assume they weren't at Dundee last week.
Surprising as it may seem, we actually created more chances today than we did last week.
Not really very hard as we created NONE at Dundee.
It looks like the players can lift themselves for cup-ties but not for the league.
Motivation and consistency required.
Manager's role I think.

I respect your right to criticise anybody for failing the appointed task, but would respectfully suggest that your screen name taints your post with an element of farce!
mortonjag 2008-08-31 07:45:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 31 2008, 06:53 AM) [snapback]504719[/snapback]
Premature blindness ??

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I see.
mortonjag 2008-08-31 07:47:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 31 2008, 06:55 AM) [snapback]504720[/snapback]
I hope they died painlessly before you gutted them.

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There are many posters I'd happily gut first! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-31 07:56:55
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 31 2008, 07:08 AM) [snapback]504722[/snapback]
Gidday MJ,

With the greatest of respect - PLEASE let this one die.

We now have a very serious battle to avoid the relegation playoff.

As DDFR calims that he wants promotion rather than relegation, he and DI need to sit down and agree on how to dig the Ton out of this hole.

Without making the hole bigger.

Newt-I can normally follow your logic but you've lost me here.

In essence I'm asking a poster whose identity (if I'm correct) endows him with certain statutory responsibilities, to explain apparently harmful comments (harmful to DI AND DDFR) shortly before a crucial cup tie.

As usual the thread has dragged out because others resent Mortonjag/resent questions being asked.

If you feel I've got that wrong, or if (as I suspect) you don't understand where I'm coming from on this one, feel free to P.M.! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-31 08:00:56
QUOTE(Wonko the Sane @ Aug 31 2008, 07:40 AM) [snapback]504727[/snapback]
Dear wise and learned physician. Hast thou not heard the famous old saying, possibly coined by Hippoctates himself?

"You are only as good as your last match"

The test for Irons is how he learns from the Airdrie debacle, motivates the team, appoints a half decent captain (McAlister?) and gets some proper organisation into the defence. Me - I'll reserve judgement.


Hippocrates was also wont to opine 'it's a results driven game'-oh wise one!

I do agree-I very much hope, and have a sneaking suspicion too, that yesterday may have been the lowest point for us this season.
mortonjag 2008-08-31 08:11:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 31 2008, 01:27 AM) [snapback]504690[/snapback]
I really don't see any point in casting up the kind of history you were there.

Sure, Satans Husband, football has changed.

But are you saying that human values like:

loyalty

commitment

discipline

teamwork

passion

have ceased to have relevance in 2008 ?

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I think his wife probably has him well indoctrinated Newt.
mortonjag 2008-08-31 09:35:41
QUOTE(Wonko the Sane @ Aug 31 2008, 08:05 AM) [snapback]504734[/snapback]
Actually, I think you'll find that was Freud.

Lets pick ourselves up and gub Queens on Sunday

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Freud would have had a field day with our Chairman!

Aye-let's hump the Doonhamers-'tis a funny old game.
mortonjag 2008-08-31 09:52:41
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Aug 31 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]504747[/snapback]
Only your example disproves the theory as Jimbo was the only one with maybe Russell who got pass marks yesterday. Although that said I know what you mean - yesterday showed what I knew already - Jim is too good for that Morton team.

Talking of yesterday-I thought big Wakey started well and ran out of steam. I don't think he gave up. Jimbo and Iain Russell kept plugging away-Jenkins clearly did his best but is not fully fit, Shimmin seemed to be trying a leg-the left back trialist showed a bit of bite near the end, and the only guy who finally tried to take the game by the scruff of the neck and take Airdrie on-McManus is being pilloried for having some fire in his belly. Sure he overcooked it (AS DID THE REF), but if you really want to point fingers they have to be at a midfield UTTERLY BEREFT of ideas.

I also repeat what I said just before Cuthbert arrived-Colin Stewart is an effin bombscare-FAR worse that McGurn or that wee ginger jack in the box IMO.

If you've a sh1te sub goalie, no established full backs, no playmaker, and no wingers, and in addition the boys have an off day-what do you bloody expect. We were massacred by Airdrie who thoroughly deserved their five goals or more and who look a tidy team-AGAIN a 'wee' side with an astute manager did us over!


Anyway back to Jimbo-up until the Hibs game he's been mince. He was outstanding at Easter Road. Yesterday he was more of his old self, but ultimately achieved very little. Once he gets the end product sorted, others will start to take notice.
mortonjag 2008-08-31 11:10:11
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Aug 31 2008, 10:20 AM) [snapback]504764[/snapback]
Raw meat NewTon, I was brought up on raw meat.

Your pal MJ can crack on as much as he likes, but the simple fact is he knows nothing about what happens at Cappielow. Would like to know everything and resents anyone challenging his view of the world.

Sounds very much like one other old embittered GP who thought he was god, don't you think?

Not correct, and begs the question-who the f*ck do you think you are? You present yourself as an 'authority' while hiding behind what you THINK is anonymity. Mabawsa and Shimmin tried that too! rolleyes.gif

What I DO know (among other things) is that your head is well impacted in your voluminous arse when it comes to your beloved Trust.

You've objected to, and resented every legitimate question that's been asked of the Trust, while you pontificate about its finances, the importance of shares, the youth policy, and the FANS HAVING A STRONG VOICE. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Don't make me vomit-you claim that strong voice is the Trust --who can't get an answer to a simple question after two months. rolleyes.gif You claim it's 'time for change' and that the 'fans need to be heard'. AYE RIGHT, but you don't like it when this fan speaks out against your cosy wee sinecure infected sewing bee-do you?

Care to identify yourself, or do you want me to do it? smartass.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 09:44:37
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Sep 1 2008, 12:30 AM) [snapback]505215[/snapback]
And you know this how?

Don't ask me I am not a member - if you were to take the trouble to ask then I am sure you would find out but hey its much more fun living in the land of gossip, speculation and conjecture!

Is the trust committed to change - again I can't answer that but I do believe they are a group of Morton fan doing what they believe to best for the club.

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Out of the mouths of babes and sucklings indeed!

Doing what is believed best is often wrong. Mr Rae's been doing it at Cappielow for quite a wee while-indeed there is a marked resemblance between his modus operandi and that of the Trust!

Of those the most apparent is that the Trust has its own dictator who firmly and sincerely believes he knows best. His sidekick, like Crawford Rae, is a paper tiger, often seen purring benignly in the Directors box. As with Mr Rae, the Trust dictator's work is done by his little army of faithful and unquestioning soldiers, who like him react bitterly to any form of criticism-real or perceived.

The truth is that the Trust-certainly in its present state-is far from committed to change. Apart from some commendable charity work-most of which is done by non Trust members, it has become an anachronism.

Only a blind fool could possibly believe that the Trust has (or EVER will have) any clout at Board level when the major shareholder carefully protects his 75.1% stake. It's frankly a joke to keep banging on about 'shares giving the fans a voice' but it's Mr Trust's raison d'etre.

The whole concept of an effective Fans' Trust at Cappielow is fatally flawed, yet the majority of fans still see the Trust as safeguarding their interests. That apathetic ignorance is a sure measure of the current fragmentation of the fan base.

Of course it's time for change, but fans can only effect change with money that talks.

In the meantime the Trust would do well to re-think its role. It could easily evolve into an all embracing social network for fans-Andy M's work shines as a beacon in that direction.

Forget the spin folks-your tenner Trust membership would be better spent on the Lottery.

You MIGHT just end up buying Rae out! smile.gif





mortonjag 2008-09-01 10:17:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 1 2008, 10:06 AM) [snapback]505279[/snapback]
The truth is that the Trust-certainly in its present state-is far from committed to change.
Gidday MJ,

Sorry, mate, but I cannot agree.

The Trust has stated that its goal is to become THE majority shareholder in Morton FC.

It has already spent in excess of 100,000 pounds on Morton shares.

Do you not agree that control by the Trust will be a MAJOR change from the current regime ?

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The Trust in its present form is committed to collecting lots and lots of tenners and believes that in the fullness of time they will have so many tenners that they can buy out Alistair Donald's grandson? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 10:42:53 In answer to the original question, it's certainly time for Mr Rae to 'cut his losses'-some would suggest it's long past time!

It's indisputable that AD is 'interested' in the club. Perhaps not as 'interested' as in January when he gave his one and only interview to the 'Tilly', but at least he deigned to become a Director a few weeks ago, and that's 'interest' in my view.

IF Mr Donald's function is currently 'advisory only' he's making a brilliant job of lowering the value of the club.

Mr Donald's track record indicates that he's an extremely shrewd businessman! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 11:16:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 1 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]505290[/snapback]
well, they have collected over 10,000 tenners already.

IMHO, that's a great performance.

MJ, here's a daft idea.

The Trust "officially" has not heard from Mr Donald.

Is that just what we are meant to believe ?

Perhaps the Trust is in negotiations with Mr Donald.

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Always expect the unexpected!

I'm a wee bit confused though. Has he ambitions to become Chairman of the Trust Committee?
mortonjag 2008-09-01 11:29:14
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 31 2008, 10:00 AM) [snapback]504757[/snapback]
I think Weatherson is being made a bit of a scapegoat here. Some of the comments about his ability and fitness are way over the top and nonsensical to say the least.
Remember his goals have saved us on numerous occaisions in the past. I'm not defending him if he has made comments towards the fans at yesterday's game, I'm sure we will hear more about that as the week goes on.

Weatherson can play in defence, but not at either right or left back. He is not pacey enough to handle some of the players at this level.
He can play in the centre of defence though and that's the only place to play him if you are going to make him part of your defensive set up. I hope Irons now realises this.
I don't know where Weatherson fits into the team. Whether he is a striker, midfielder or defender. My own preference is to put him back up front and let him battle for a place with Wake.

Irons has to find a settled defence and stick with it. Changing personel and formation in just about every game played this season is not helping.

I agree, and one thing's absolutely set in stone.

If Peter scores three brilliant goals against the Doonhamers this Sunday-which is NOT outwith his ability, those who hate the 'fat, unfit, gambling, alcoholic chancer' will turn their spiteful small minds on another victim for a little while.

Probably yours truly! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 11:34:11
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Aug 31 2008, 04:41 PM) [snapback]505014[/snapback]
The blonde at the front on her phone is actually Jim McAllister's bird, used to go to uni with her.

She must have been very proud.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 11:46:00
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 30 2008, 08:43 PM) [snapback]504387[/snapback]
Agree with both points. Rae should go but go where and who wants to buy a 'diddy team' like Morton?

Irons was a terrible appointment although I hope I'm wrong. A team like Morton needs a manager who has been around the block a few times and who wouldn't be scared to get rid of the likes of Weatherson.

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QUOTE(El gofer @ Aug 31 2008, 02:42 AM) [snapback]504703[/snapback]
TTG rae is silly patter.

The guy owns the club. He isnt an employee. We need to get our head round the fact, as many many other teams do that the owner is maybe not who people want. The guy puts money in and to that extent is entitled to a say.

We have no goalscorer. Dont think that is Rae's fault.

No pace. Surely Irons would have pinpointed that if he thought it was an issue. He did not.

Finlayson dropped like a stone. A lot of people on here give the guy pelters. He is similar to what McLaughlin was last year. Neither of them hid in games. They always looked for the ball. As a result of being so involved, they make mistakes. Rather that than guys standing about. Paartalu and Masterton. I hope they bring in a kicker rule like american football. That would make Masterton a key player.

I would say that Finlayson's workrate is far superior to mcallister's but he is not such a pretty player.

I heard a rumour we were meant to be taking Kevin McCann from Hibs on loan. I heard this before the game on tuesday. If this is the case, our strongest team is....

Cuthbert
McCann Shimmin McManus Reid

Finlayson McGuffie Jenkins McAllister

Russell Wake

I keep thinking there is something to come from Newby so poss Nemby for Wake.

Looks boring but solid and our wide mids have pace and support the full backs. There was no support today. Blaiming spoons is all well and good but who was meant to be protecting him?? Left side?? Narrow formation?? Not Jim surely?? All our goals apart from the 2nd came down there. Reid was on his lonesome for the last two. Jim did well going forward late on, so it must be the formation and not him that meant the full back had no protection................



WHY is it 'silly patter'?

Would you prefer 'Please stay for ever and ever Rae'?


OF COURSE IT'S TTG!

The sooner the old fud realises he's no longer a big fish in a small pond the better. He IS a liability, and it IS TTG.

Don't worry too much about bogeymen like Hugh's Cot. Mr Rae's ego won't see him selling the club on to a charlatan, and it's STILL TTG.


mortonjag 2008-09-01 11:57:47 ......and the victim next time we f*ck up will be................


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mortonjag 2008-09-01 12:08:08
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 1 2008, 09:43 AM) [snapback]505271[/snapback]
I don't understand. Are you saying we need new signings?
From memory. Jenkins signs and everyone on here rejoices. He hasn't kicked a ball for us. Admittedly he's been injured. McGuffie signs and everyone one here rejoices. Terrible signing. No effort and very little ability. Some one here are reduced to claiming 'it's the work you don't see' that's his strength. McManus signs and everyone on here rejoices. Third or forth game in and he's swearing at the fans. Masterton signs and everyone on here rejoices. Anyone see where I'm going here?

I have not been 'rejoicing' about a single Morton signing since Rae went on his glory trip.

From day one we've been on a bloody budget. I believe Cowboy should have been allowed to stay, but GOD couldn't keep his sacred arse oot the dressing room, and since then we've had two rookie managers in succession.

For what it's worth, I believe DI has what it takes to learn from his mistakes. The last one was a muppet.

The four players you mention are all capable of playing well at first division level.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 12:33:15
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 1 2008, 12:06 PM) [snapback]505314[/snapback]
No idea why MJ is laughing at my post. Maybe he has 'insider' knowledge on 'things'. Frankly I'd rather have had Rowan Alexander than Irons.

I was laughing at the way you put it McArthur.

'It WAS a terrible signing and I hope I'm wrong'.

Maybe if I'm asked to sign your death certificate I'll write:

He IS deid, and I hope I'm wrong! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 12:34:46
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Sep 1 2008, 12:25 PM) [snapback]505331[/snapback]
I'm actually not that worried. Am I weird?

Everyone in this league is beating everyone else.

Saturday was total bollocks but we can play a lot better than that. I'm glad we have a week off from league duty, and perhaps will get someone else before the window shuts tonight.

We've shown in patches and the Hibs game what this team can do, we can do alright this year.

I agree.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 12:40:12
QUOTE(Toby @ Sep 1 2008, 12:06 PM) [snapback]505315[/snapback]
It's not a case of looking for a victim, or a scapegoat though.

Plenty of folk have bad games, a poor run of form, a difficult start at a new club, I can live with that and if a player, knuckles down, puts in the work and shows he wants it, he should reap the rewards (Brian Wake?) and also the full support of us.

What I can't accept is someone behaving that way purely because he was s***e. It was an act of thuggery that he should be ashamed of. He's let down himself, his team-mates, the management team, Raemanov and his co-horts, the club and the fans.

Not impressed, and I hope the club fine him the maximum permitted under the terms of his contract.

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It was certainly a moment of hot headedness in a match famous for its total lack of spirit.

Bring back the Deano I say! thumbup2.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 12:44:38
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 31 2008, 10:03 PM) [snapback]505149[/snapback]
For all those living in fantasy land and want Weatherson punted.
First of all, we would need to buy out his brand new 3 year contract. Then find the funds (that we have not got) to get a replacement.
All of this would take well over £100,000 I reckon. That's buying out Weathersons contract and giving a salary to our new player (asuming we find one).

Thoughts ?

My thoughts Spurtle-this time last year 75% of those polled had full confidence in JM! dry.gif

QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 31 2008, 10:08 PM) [snapback]505152[/snapback]
I refuse to vote on these silly polls ! dry.gif

Is that because you're too intelligent? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 12:49:05
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 1 2008, 12:39 PM) [snapback]505340[/snapback]
Does anyone actually know how much the club is worth in cash terms?

It's not how much it's 'worth'-it's how much anyone is willing to pay, and Rae has probably overvalued it in AD's eyes.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 12:50:58
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 1 2008, 12:36 PM) [snapback]505339[/snapback]
I see. No offence at all but I am planning on outliving you.

What I meant was, Irons appointment was, in my opinion, a terrible appointment. Having said that, I would like him to prove me wrong.

I knew that McArthur, but this is a forum for nitpicking remember! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 13:04:43
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 31 2008, 03:16 PM) [snapback]504967[/snapback]
Masterton can't work in a midfield four - if he's part of the engine room the car will break down.
At least with 5 we have a spare man to accomodate him.

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QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Sep 1 2008, 12:19 AM) [snapback]505212[/snapback]
Glad to know that I am not the only fan of the big man. It's become fashionable on here to give him a hard time but there is not many better centre halfs in the first division and before the keyboard smartarses get excited look at McManus who despite his reputation is not half the player big Stu is.

Are you a self appointed keyboard non-smart arse-or just arrogant fud LBH?

People have short memories-both of those players (on form) are capable of playing well in the First Division.

I am a self appointed keyboard smart arse. That's to save you asking your non-smart arse question! bag.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 13:07:46
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 1 2008, 01:01 PM) [snapback]505369[/snapback]
Does anyone know how much Rae has the club valued at?

Alistair Donald-and I wouldn't be in the slightest surprised if it's an up to date valuation.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 13:11:17
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Sep 1 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]505374[/snapback]
Jenkins and Masterton I agree are capable at this level - when Jenkins is fit he's capable of playing for a team in the lower half of the SPL IMO, and Masterton was well liked at Clyde before he had fitness problems last season, when the general consensus was that he was poor, but when fit he was still capable of playing well.

McGuffie and McManus however; most Gretna fans seemed to think McGuffie was a passenger after they were promoted to the First Division - the general opinion seemed to be that he was a Second Division player, and his performances since signing for us have suggested that.

McManus was poor whenever he played against us last season, and with the exception of a decent performance against Hibs, has been absolutely terrible for us. He's not up to football at this level; Livingston knew that and that's why they signed Innes instead.

Most Gretna fans thought Mileson was the best thing since sliced bread!


Time will tell-if you're correct it's a terrible indictment of DI's assessment of 'quality players'.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 13:15:02
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 1 2008, 01:11 PM) [snapback]505385[/snapback]
I voted 'move him on'.

I don't think his rift with the fans will ever heal. There's been the cheer when he was substituted at Dumbarton, him shouting at the fans when he scored a double against Gretna and then what happened on Saturday. I just can't see a way back for him at Cappielow.

By 'move him on' I don't mean I'd release him and pay him off. I'd try to get a club to take him on loan or on a permanent basis.

That was NEVER proved!

Anyway, are you trying to tell me that that fat lazy lump of alcoholic blubber scored twice against an SPL club?


Pull the other one!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 13:17:49
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 1 2008, 01:08 PM) [snapback]505377[/snapback]
I've seen nothing from Masterton other than the ability to hit a freekick on occasion and rarely hit a good shot.
Is that sufficient for part of a central midfield at this level?

I saw pure unadulterated crap from Wakey for many games when he first arrived. Some said he was the worst striker they'd ever seen in a Ton jersey!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 13:44:43
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Sep 1 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]505401[/snapback]
Well in that event, there is definately a case of overdoing it then! Every day? Everyone will be knackered, seems a bit overkill to me. I dont think the idea of them doing more than double sessions is that far from a joke...much more the opposite!!!!

I tend to agree with that. It sounds like DI justifying things to himself.

All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 13:51:47
QUOTE(Trust Member @ Sep 1 2008, 01:23 PM) [snapback]505398[/snapback]
Reduced to criticising peoples screen names. I expected better from you MJ. I thought the last time I was on here you said it would be a good idea if people like me stayed on the board.




I certainly suggested that it would be a good idea if the Trust and its members behaved more like ordinary fans and less like Mafioso. Is that what you're alluding to?

I'm not criticising your screen name-merely pointing out that it does align you with an 'organisation' which can't hold a candle to our current squad in terms of achieving its published aims.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 13:56:45
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Sep 1 2008, 01:34 PM) [snapback]505408[/snapback]
Please don't let inconvenient facts spoil some navel gazing speculation.

Navel gazing speculation-eh! laugh.gif


Extremely wealthy businessman becomes director of extremely poor Provincial football club.

I'd suggest that to speculate non financial interest is facile.

Is that what navel gazing means?
mortonjag 2008-09-01 13:59:30
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 1 2008, 01:37 PM) [snapback]505411[/snapback]
I saw him do it with my own eyes.

That's about the only thing he did in the second half of the season.

So did I-and from the Queens stand-he held his hand to his ear as if to say-'where's the criticism now'?

Not exactly 'shouting at the fans! drink.gif drink.gif drink.gif

PS-I thought those Smileys were the most suitable!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 14:05:41
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Sep 1 2008, 02:00 PM) [snapback]505426[/snapback]
Navel gazing as more akin to raising umpteen threads and making hundreds of posts with the net effect that you know no more today than when you started smile.gif

HA-then I'm a happy navel gazer.

Try navel gazing yourself-oh-and a wee point-I know a helluva lot more than I did when I started.

Alternatively, you could read a good book, walk the dog, go fishing, have a shag, listen to Mozart.........

Maybe I should start a thread on 'alternatives to navel gazing'!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 14:10:33
QUOTE(Dougie @ Sep 1 2008, 02:00 PM) [snapback]505425[/snapback]
To me the position Weatherson is playing in is completely irrelevant. There is no excuses for his poor conditioning, poor lifestyle and poor attitude. He is a disgrace who used the last of his chances years ago with Morton and should never pull on a jersey again. Any player who cannot handle the expectations of this support should stop collecting the heavy wage packets and get to f***. They all love the adulation that comes there way with success but hate the criticism that comes with their failure.

As for Davie Irons, I was not convinced when he was appointed Morton manager but he has won me over and deserves time to get it right. Lets not forget that when we turned Airdrie over 6-1 they were struggling badly and turned it around to win the league. Now while I do not expect us to turn it around to that expect I would be amazed if Irons takes us down. I think a few Morton players are about to see a different side to our gaffer.

Subbing Weatherson in the first half was the most Pro-active thing I have seen from a Morton manager in years. In truth he could have subbed three or four at that point, but what he did do was send a message on Saturday. Ineptness will not be tolerated

Dougie-please don't take this personally, but could you specify the behaviour you describe, and tell me when you witnessed it. Any video evidence would be extremely helpful.

It's not that I doubt the body of opinion, but living outside Inverclyde, it's hard for me to devote much time to observing the private lives of our players.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 14:13:42
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 1 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]505415[/snapback]
So what's your excuse then? rolleyes.gif

smile.gif


I don't need an excuse for other people's opinions!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 14:18:58
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 1 2008, 02:06 PM) [snapback]505433[/snapback]
Well he was facing the fans in the stand on the far side and I could see that he was shouting something and the way his face was screwed up meant is was obvious it wasn't something positive.

Anyway, that just shows how deluded he is. Thinking that two goals and one performance meant that he'd shut up fans.

If anything he should've been embarassed that those two goals and a header against St. Johnstone were the only things he did in the second half of last season. It was no coincidence that we only starting getting results when Irons dropped Weatherson and put Wake and Russell up front instead.

Hold on-no time ago Wake was 'the worst striker ever to don a Ton shirt', and Russell was 'second division quality who couldn't hit a barn door'!


I've never doubted his lack of application.

I've never doubted his ability.

I've never doubted that at a decent club he'd have been tobered up or punted long ago.

I've never doubted that many Ton fans need a convenient victim at any given time.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 14:21:08
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Sep 1 2008, 02:08 PM) [snapback]505435[/snapback]
Why not. You've certainly bored the arse off the world with this one.

Newt started the thread my dear-do keep up!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 14:23:11
QUOTE(Trust Member @ Sep 1 2008, 02:10 PM) [snapback]505437[/snapback]
At EGM it was said that there were one or two people interested in buying some shares, but no names were given.

I am pretty sure if Tele had ever reported AD was to make an investment or wanted the club we would all remember it. Paricularly I would have thought you NT.

DDFR has said he has rejected offers, but he hasn't said they came from AD.

I dont think there has been any real evidence that AD wants or has ever wanted the club.




I don't think you'd ever make a scientist, or barrister, and you'd NEVER have become Rebus! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 14:26:21 Couldn't be much worse IMO.

Not much of an income and NO guarantee we progress.

Hopefully the massive home support v a few sheep shaggers will see us through.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 14:28:27 I guess the cup draw has put the issue to bed!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 14:32:09
QUOTE(Dougie @ Sep 1 2008, 02:19 PM) [snapback]505460[/snapback]
There has been video evidence of Weathersons behaviour passed on by a friend of mine to Cappielow and completely brushed under the carpet by our boardroom and PREVIOUS management team. I appreciate it isnt personal and I could go into details about Peters lifestyle problems but dont think it would do anybody any good. This aint me starting a witch hunt and most local Morton supporters are perfectly aware of Peters lifestyle choices your just one of the lucky Morton supporters who hasn't witnessed it first hand. Lets just say Weatherson has a worse lifestyle than what Williams, John Maisano or Marco Maisano ever had and that in itself is saying something.

Fair enough-I just keep hearing folk talk about it as 'common knowledge' but nobody ever seems to say e.g. 'Last night I witnessed the following'.......

SO it begs the question-WHY is he still at Cappielow?

mortonjag 2008-09-01 14:37:02
QUOTE(Toby @ Sep 1 2008, 02:32 PM) [snapback]505482[/snapback]
Got to completely disagree with that. Gone are the days that a trip to Ibrox and Parkhead are big pay days. Their season ticket holders don't get into ties like this and as a result don't want to pay £15 a skull to watch a team like us on top of the season ticket and Champions league games (sorry, Rangers tongue.gif !).

The only way to make money out of this tournament is to get to Hampden and by getting Inverness at home, we have as good a chance to progress as we would have had in any combination, bearing in mind the seeding for the draw.

Logistically too, it's a good draw. I'd much rather have this than a trip to Inverness, Aberdeen or Dundee United. It offers a chance of progress. For all they're a better side than us and will rightly go in as favourites i can't ask for any more.

Good draw.

I can't argue if what you say is correct. I'd imagine we'd have taken a good 5000 plus to Ibrox or Parkhead, but maybe you can tell me what their crowd would probably be.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 14:55:39
QUOTE(Trust Member @ Sep 1 2008, 02:31 PM) [snapback]505480[/snapback]
I thought most of trusts 250+ members were ordinary fans. How does an ordinary fan behave?
Do you think you are an ordinary fan?
In what way is the trust like the mafia?
I dont agree with that. I agree the trust doesnt do what YOU think it should. That doesn't mean they are not doing what their members want.

Again I must correct myself. I had no idea that there was such a massive membership. When I alluded to that sort of behaviour, I was referring to members who 'knee jerked' to questions being asked.

Folk who said-'wrong thread', and 'we only answer to members', and 'the Trust is NOT the fans' representative', and 'Jim McColl does a good job'-OH and 'WE WELCOME THE PUBLICITY', before disappearing like snow off a dyke! dry.gif

So why did this huge number of active Trust members contribute so little. I accept they are not part of the Inner Sanctum Mafioso, but they surely must be well versed in, and up to date with the Trust's multi faceted activities. It can't JUST be about picking up the odd tenner every couple of months and gloating over the massive power and kudos of an utterly worthless shareholding, and taking credit for good deeds organised by supporters' clubs when cash is meekly handed over to Rae without any hope of knowing what will become of it!

I presume that 244 or thereabouts hardly souls were out on active Trust business at the time of the Trust AGM, when half a dozen less sturdy Trusties turned up to hear Professor Pickett's lecture!!!

Anyway, lets NOT get too upset. Those are early days. DI is still learning his trade, and unlike the last Muppet, appears to have more than sawdust between his ears.

Onwards and upwards!!! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 15:20:05
QUOTE(Trust Member @ Sep 1 2008, 03:12 PM) [snapback]505513[/snapback]
If you go on correcting yourself like this people will lose faith in your original posts and we wouldn't want that? Would we? smile.gif
For both the club and the Trust. smile.gif

Hopefully!

QUOTE(Trust Member @ Sep 1 2008, 03:14 PM) [snapback]505515[/snapback]
Get in touch with the Trust.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Excellent - a Trusty with a sense of humour.

Hope springs eternal in this bitter and spiteful old past sell by date physician's bosom! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 15:22:35
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Sep 1 2008, 03:19 PM) [snapback]505518[/snapback]
I'm well aware of who started this thread. The organ grinder and monkey are relatively interchangeable on here wink.gif

My monkey is not related to Newton.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 15:34:53
QUOTE(Trust Member @ Sep 1 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]505525[/snapback]
I dont think I would ever want to become Rebus you have to live in Edinburgh.
You produce a single fact:
Extremely wealthy businessman becomes director of extremely poor Provincial football club.

From this you deveop a suggestion not even a Hypothesis
I'd suggest that to speculate non financial interest is facile.

Then you make a conclusion based on your own suggestion and present it as
real evidence

Inadmissable M'lud!!!



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You see-you'd NEVER make a barrister.

It IS real evidence--it is evident that Mr Donald is (at long last) a Director of Morton FC.

It is also evident that Mr Donald is extremely wealthy.

It is evident that Morton FC is a relatively poor club.

The circumstantial evidence is overwhelming-Mr Donald has clearly fallen passionately in love with Gillian Donaldson.

mortonjag 2008-09-01 15:45:57
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 1 2008, 03:30 PM) [snapback]505529[/snapback]
I've never said Wake was the worst striker to play for Morton

My point here is that Weatherson is a more talented player than both Wake and Russell but as soon as he was dropped for those two we started scoring and winning. Which suggests there's a problem with Peter Weatherson.

I don't think he's a convenient victim. Concerns over Peter Weatherson's fitness and attitude have been expressed by many Morton fans over a long period of time.

What is your opinion of Peter Weatherson?

I didn't suggest that YOU had claimed anything about Wake or Russell.

I believe Spoonsy's potentially a better striker than either, but our strikers this season have had to work for their own goals and that's not his style. Given an even half decent supply, Spoonsy would still have got on the score sheet.

My opinion of Peter Weatherson is that he's a very talented footballer with significant personal problems, and that had he signed for an even semi organised club instead of us, he'd either now be a well known SPL striker, or a second division 'has been'.

He is AN EXTREMELY CONVENIENT VICTIM!!!



mortonjag 2008-09-01 15:49:33
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 1 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]505539[/snapback]
Thats just sick bag.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-01 15:52:26
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 1 2008, 03:47 PM) [snapback]505547[/snapback]
I wish you would come out and say who you are..don't think your doing the trust any good hiding behind a name(if you are on the trust board)

He's Trust Member Sean. Haven't you learned all the code names yet!

You DO know who measles is surely! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 15:55:34
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 1 2008, 03:50 PM) [snapback]505554[/snapback]
Ok Crawford

Good God Ghostie-wee Bryan didn't ban Crawford for a week did he? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 15:58:39
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 1 2008, 03:46 PM) [snapback]505546[/snapback]
Why, i totally agree with it


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QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 1 2008, 03:54 PM) [snapback]505560[/snapback]
All logical statements, tend to agree with quite alot of his posts rolleyes.gif

Thanks Ghostie.

Ron Number exists for one purpose only-to attack Mortonjag.

If you watch carefully (or read his previous posts) you'll end up agreeing with that too.

IMHO he contributes absolutely nothing of any worth to our wee massage board. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 16:07:46
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 1 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]505563[/snapback]
Why bring it into a debate you and I are having about Peter Weatherson. Especially in reply to me making a point about our fortunes turning around when he dropped Peter and played Russell and Wake. What other people have said about Russell and Wake is irrelevant.

The rest of your post is fair enough but I still don't think he's a convenient victim. Stevie Masterton recently received the same ironic cheers when substituted. The differences were that Masterton's performance was nowhere near as bad as Weatherson's. He also refused to react to the fans. What he did do was start the next match on the bench and then pick himself up put in a good performance and score a cracker goal in his next start against Hibs.

You said this:

It was no coincidence that we only starting getting results when Irons dropped Weatherson and put Wake and Russell up front instead.


I was simply making the point that NO time ago Wake and Russell were victims of sometimes pretty nasty abuse..

THAT was my point-and it wasn't aimed at you-it was in illustration of the fact that Morton Fans always need at least one victim. Right now Spoonsy and McManus fit the bill-before it's been the 'chuckle brothers', or loopy lee Robinson, or Midge the wimp who shirked tackles, or well-almost anybody really! Just not all at the same time! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 16:26:06
QUOTE(big B @ Sep 1 2008, 04:01 PM) [snapback]505571[/snapback]
Am I right in saying that DDF stated a couple of seasons ago that he had 2 offers on the table of £4 million to buy him out, having said that it is better the devil you know.

He was interviewed by the Scottish Sun and an article published on the morning of our game with Raith Rovers-the day we gained promotion.

As I recall, the article was entitled something like 'I don't regret backing a loser', and he was explaining how he inevitably had to pour cash into the club to get it moving. He stated that he had had (as I recall) several offers in excess of a million pounds, and that 'as long as there was breath in his body' the Rae family would retain control of the club.

Maybe somebody knows how to retrieve that article from archives.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 16:34:26
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 1 2008, 02:37 PM) [snapback]505485[/snapback]
He stood out a mile, imo, which is why I WAS glad when we signed him. He looks done now.

I wouldn't write him off quite yet-he's had injuries and was slow to get started-added to our NEVER yet having had a settled back three or four.
Say what you like-he's an experienced pro and he's not exactly over the hill in years.

On Saturday he let his frustration take control of his senses. I guess that's what comes of playing behind a midfield of woodentops!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 16:44:33
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 1 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]505590[/snapback]
Okay, I thought you were insinuating I had said those things.

With all of those examples it's my personal opinion that Peter Weatherson is the one who deserves the most criticism.

The rest of those players are honest but limited players who are criticised for mistakes and a lack of ability. Most of them also took abuse in a professional manner although I do seem to remember Ryan Harding reacting once.

Peter Weatherson is a talented player who is wasting his talent and not performing to his true potential and that's criminal.

edit to add - However, I do agree Chris Millar was often unjustly criticised.

I've taken other posters up on that before. Do you think he deliberately sits down and says-'I think I'll just be a waster'?

The boy has problems which are all too common in professional sportsmen. They are NOT IMO insurmountable-given a willingness to sort them AND proper experienced support.


For all I know he is an inveterate waster who will never benefit from help.

For all I know he's often sought help from the club, and help has not been forthcoming.

I'm pretty sure that if he had been a smaller fish in a bigger pond, referral for help would have been seen as an investment.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 16:46:21
QUOTE(Trust Member @ Sep 1 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]505605[/snapback]
So as long as I stick to having a go at MJ and belittling him that will be OK. wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-01 17:07:34
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 1 2008, 05:04 PM) [snapback]505624[/snapback]
Gawd...we've got Crawford and Douglas Rae posting on the board now. rolleyes.gif

With you too McArthur that sure is one holy trinity.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 17:09:17
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 1 2008, 04:49 PM) [snapback]505615[/snapback]
Yes mellow.gif

Just like Willowman opts to drink in the Willow Bar, Peter opts for a local night club, 20 fags and Donnar Kebab for the way home(complete with salad) rolleyes.gif

No one forces him, just like his addiction for gambling

Is he a gambling addict, or just a heavy gambler?





Or neither or both,
mortonjag 2008-09-01 17:11:04
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 1 2008, 05:05 PM) [snapback]505626[/snapback]
What did he do wrong at Dens Park, up against (allegedly) the best partnership in the league?
We were beaten due to an individual marking error (by Weatherson) and apart from that were compact throughout.
In my book, that makes for a good individual defensive performance.
What did he do wrong against Clyde?

He's been very unlucky this season with two great headers on target well saved, AND scored the winner at Easter Road.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 17:12:23
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 1 2008, 05:11 PM) [snapback]505640[/snapback]
No idea, I'll ask Chris Miller next time I see him rolleyes.gif



What would Midge know about addiction?
mortonjag 2008-09-01 17:16:36
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 30 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]503853[/snapback]
Hauck twin buggy "shopper duo".

navy blue, winnie the pooh motif.

£50

don't all rush at once!

What colour is the Winnie the POUFFE motif?
mortonjag 2008-09-01 17:26:08
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 31 2008, 09:56 PM) [snapback]505144[/snapback]
WHY?

It's quite simple-and I'll take it BTT again.

Shimmin (Farrell), Mabawsa (Cowden) and a few other creeps have scraped the bottom of the barrel in an attempt to discredit Mortonjag.

You appeared to ask the question in good faith, and in that spirit I've requested guidance from the MDDUS. I may not get a speedy answer as I'm no longer a member, but I've every confidence that they will provide an answer which will allow us to draw the thread to a conclusion.

In the interim (and while not busy stirring turkey sh1te) Shimmin is at liberty to BTT it as often as he feels the urge. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 17:33:56
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 1 2008, 03:47 PM) [snapback]505548[/snapback]
rolleyes.gif

Three bedroom detached in Crookfur. Saw one in the estate agents I passed by today. Fixed price £212,000.

I immediately spotted that too-thae hooses aff the Baurrheid Road wi' the separate lock ups-that bloody atrocity will be lucky to fetch £200,000!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 17:43:22 Can I add my tuppence worth-oh well I'm going to anyway. RACIST SPOTTER ALERT.

Only problem is I can PROVE THIS!!

Church on the Hill yesterday-full-watching OF game-about 60/40 Hun/Tim-good natured -no colours.

Three Asians (in their twenties) muscled in without buying drinks. Started shouting abusive comments at the Ref (f*ck off ya proddy b*astard) and OF player (called him a hun c*nt).

Huckled off by staff after a neutral (Thistle) fan reported them!!!

What was that all about? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 17:46:39 I'm not easily scared either by beasties or blood and gore. The sight of septuagenarians holding microphones fills me with terror.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 17:55:06
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 30 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]504486[/snapback]
This is great - we've found something you are TRULY appalling at !

Magic ! Another howler.

TonInDublin

I still think you're gay but let's pass
To George and the use of his ass
It's really not funny
But crammed full of money
He sh1ts only skitters and gas.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 18:03:14
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 1 2008, 05:08 PM) [snapback]505632[/snapback]
Isn't the use of the term 'give her one' in itself rather mysogenous? Ya auld hypocrite.

If you're going to keep claiming the moral high ground you're going to end up making a cnut of yourself sooner or later I suppose.

So make your mind up Tom, is it OK for hetrosexual men to lust after attractive women or not? rolleyes.gif

Not in the slightest, though that is the common misperception of those who see women as 'being shagged' and men as 'shaggers'.

Would YOU let her give you one?

I certainly would! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 18:07:03
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 1 2008, 05:31 PM) [snapback]505670[/snapback]
How in the wee mans name can someone think about it and never intend to do it, and even more amazing how the f*** would anyone else be able to say 100% that they would never do it.

Paedo's by their nature are coniving slippery b*****ds and I bet every single one of them said at some time they fancied kids but would never do the crime.

What a f***ing ridiculous argument.

Ask any Catholic Priest-oops-I mean about having heterosexual relations!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 18:10:16
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 1 2008, 05:46 PM) [snapback]505697[/snapback]
Exactly, why is he still here, you will love this one but Peter is DDFs golden boy, he can do no wrong.

Watching Peter pratically break the bookies door down 1 hour before a home game last season to get his habitual betting slip 'on' while adorned with his Morton gear AFTER all the s*** that went on before regarding bookies was the final straw for me. (and this was not the first time)
He has taken Morton fans for mugs for years, bevvying far too much, not applying himself enough at training, betting ridiculous amounts of money and generally living the high life while not knuckling down to his job.

His lifestyle will not allow him to develop as a player and quite frankly I don't think he gives a f***, our club 'rewarded' him with a 3 year contract, how mental is that, he is now finacially secure for 3 years even if he ends up like Bella from Russ Abbots show.

He was one of the gang who ran to DDF to have Cowboy punted, whether Cowboy deserved it or not he still undermined the gaffer, all because he banned them from getting pished in their favourite holes and we know from history which side DDF took.

Are you suggesting that the Chairman has favourites?
mortonjag 2008-09-01 18:13:14
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 1 2008, 05:10 PM) [snapback]505637[/snapback]
Does he f***.
Bearing in mind Thistle got Superstar Stevie Lennon (who has been tipped to take the division apart but has contributed 0 goals from 3 games) Clyde have simply been given another bunch of cast-offs.
Big difference from playing at youth level into this standard of "football".

He has!

QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 1 2008, 05:39 PM) [snapback]505685[/snapback]
aye, when he's helping painting his granny's house on a sunday for her. He's good at that, cant fault his effort.

Is that his Granny McGuffie or the other one?
mortonjag 2008-09-01 18:15:44
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 1 2008, 06:10 PM) [snapback]505729[/snapback]
I see they bottled being at the top of the league too... rolleyes.gif

Maybe he was sacked for failing to keep them in top spot. They're an ambitious club you know-ask Craig Thomson.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 18:46:25
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 1 2008, 05:16 PM) [snapback]505646[/snapback]
No idea, but he uses the same bookies as Peter, so maybe he would have an idea if its at the addiction stage
I think someone has a wee soft spot for a certain player wub.gif

Mr Rae by all accounts!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 18:50:07
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 1 2008, 06:43 PM) [snapback]505753[/snapback]
Of course I would (assuming neither of us were married or in a long-term relationship, obviously). rolleyes.gif

According to Tom though admitting to it makes you misogynous and not admitting to it makes you gay. wacko.gif

Was that really what he said?

I'd definitely give her one.

Please tell me I'm not a misogynous POUFFE!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 18:55:25
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 1 2008, 05:08 PM) [snapback]505633[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-09-01 18:57:21
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 1 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]505751[/snapback]
Defo integrating into the community. laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-01 19:00:24
QUOTE(centralTON @ Sep 1 2008, 06:55 PM) [snapback]505764[/snapback]
Are you starring in this role Davie. wink.gif

He is, but it's called: Three men eat mouse in a boat.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 19:02:36
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Sep 1 2008, 06:51 PM) [snapback]505760[/snapback]
Spot on.
Certainly explains why DDFR ran to the dugout once Peter was subbed (according to those at the game).

Issues like that can cause managers to chuck it.

Are you suggesting Mr Rae went to console him?
mortonjag 2008-09-01 19:25:09
QUOTE(Capuan @ Sep 1 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]505769[/snapback]
mortonjag 2008-09-01 19:27:07
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 1 2008, 07:16 PM) [snapback]505770[/snapback]
Yes.

I refer the right honourable gentleman to the following two posts....

He didn't say anything in the second quote-it was a wee picture of a clothes hanger and fingz.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 19:29:47
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 1 2008, 06:47 PM) [snapback]505758[/snapback]
The captaincy is over-rated guff. It almost serves no purpose...

I think that's pretty accurate those days-though any natural 'leader' should be captain. We've not had one of those for ages.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 19:31:52
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Sep 1 2008, 07:21 PM) [snapback]505772[/snapback]
You know when I saw "Jc", my initial thought was John Collins. laugh.gif

When you really meant Derek Christ?
mortonjag 2008-09-01 19:33:46
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Sep 1 2008, 07:30 PM) [snapback]505779[/snapback]
Watching someone with fabric in their mouth, like biting their t-shirt or something. Gives me goosebumps just thinking about it. And the sound of people cracking their fingers. My sister used to torment me when I was a kid, so much so that she actually made me physically sick one time.

A lot of that goes on in Pishley.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 19:35:16 Heebie-jeebies

Meaning

A feeling of anxiety, apprehension or illness.

Origin

The sound of this term seems to hark back to earlier rhyming phrases, like hocus-pocus and mumbo-jumbo, with a touch of the jitters thrown in. The meaning is more like the British term - the screaming habdabs.

Heebie and jeebie don't mean anything as independent words and heebie jeebies was coined at a time and place when there was a spate of new nonsense rhyming pairs, called rhyming reduplications, - the bee's knees, etc., i.e. 1920s USA.

Billy de BeckThe term is widely attributed to William Morgan "Billy" de Beck. The first citation of it in print is certainly in a 1923 cartoon of his, in the 26th October edition of the New York American:

"You dumb ox - why don't you get that stupid look offa your pan - you gimme the heeby jeebys!"

Heebie jeebies caught on quickly and very soon began appearing in many newspapers and works of literature in the USA and, from 1927 onward, the UK. For example, here's an entry from the Van Nuys News, 6th November 1923, just a few days after de Beck's cartoon was published:

"Bill Alton showed up poorly in center field. The boys seemed to have the heebie jeebies."

The lack of any explanation in either of the above citations seems to imply that the term would have been known to the readership of both publications by the time of printing.

The speed of take-up of heebie jeebies, in a similar way to another coinage that is attributed to de Beck - horse feathers, heebie jeebiesdoes suggest an origin in the media rather than street slang, which tends to spread more slowly.

The term became part of the language quickly enough for it to begin appearing in advertisements from 1924 onwards, as in this illustration from the Mexia Daily News, October 1924, in an advert for a cold cure.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 19:38:09
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 1 2008, 07:25 PM) [snapback]505773[/snapback]
Link
"Feeling stressed or anxious at an inability to access the Internet? Don't worry, you're not alone and now there's a word for it: "discomgoogolation".

Nearly half of Britons -- 44 percent -- are discomgoogolation sufferers, according to a survey, with over a quarter -- 27 percent -- admitting to rising stress levels when they are unable to go online.

"The proliferation of broadband has meant for the first time in history we've entered a culture of 'instant answers,'" said psychologist Dr David Lewis, who identified discomgoogolation by measuring heart rates and brainwave activity.

The term comes from "discombobulate," which means to confuse or frustrate.

"A galaxy of information is just a mouse click away and we have become addicted to the web," added Lewis. "When unable to get online, discomgoogolation takes over.

"It was surprising to see the stress this led to brain activity and blood pressure in participants both increase in response to being cut off from the Internet."

The survey also found 76 percent of Britons could not live without the Internet, with over half of the population using the web between one and four hours a day and 19 percent of people spending more time online than with their family in a week.

Forty-seven percent of those polled believed the Internet was more important in people's lives than religion, with one in five people paying the Internet more attention than their partner."
MJ is that you ignoring the Monkey yet again? laugh.gif

Don't be silly-Munx, Fing and I sit at this keyboard from morning to night without a trace of discombobulation!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 19:39:40
QUOTE(C B @ Sep 1 2008, 07:36 PM) [snapback]505783[/snapback]
NONE of the 6 1st divison teams drawn together dry.gif

Why has your picture slowed down?
mortonjag 2008-09-01 19:49:15
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 1 2008, 07:42 PM) [snapback]505789[/snapback]
Although this Tatou does it for me.... wub.gif

Another Tatou!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 20:12:24
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Sep 1 2008, 07:53 PM) [snapback]505797[/snapback]
As has been said elsewhere it wasn't Rae it was the club doctor who was in the dugout after Cuthbert went off.

I'm so glad about that. I don't want anybody confusing Mr Rae with a doctor.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 20:14:11
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 1 2008, 07:37 PM) [snapback]505785[/snapback]
A simple yes or no would have done for leyton. wink.gif

Besides, however wrong they are, you can't convict someone for just having these thoughts (just as you wouldn't jail someone who was just thinking about killing, or committing any other crime for that matter). I know we're in a big brother state, but we've not got to 1984 levels yet.

As soon as they cross the line into actually acting on these thoughts, then it becomes a different story.

I'd like to shag you Naitch!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 20:17:04
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 1 2008, 07:42 PM) [snapback]505790[/snapback]
He expressed incredulity at Sick Mick's claim he wouldn't 'give her one' then added an attachment inferring he must be gay as a consequence, which seemed to contradict his original statement that those who admitted they would indulge in carnal knowledge with the Republican Vice-Presidential candidate were guilty of misogyny.

The obvious conclusion is that his original expression of disgust at the 'Nats' was not based on a heartfelt conviction about sexism, but petty and childish political point scoring.

I don't think Dr Bam would ever do anything of the kind.

Anyway I'd 'give her one all right' and Sir Cliff's arse makes the tip of my tadger tingle.

Does that put me in a political no man's land?
mortonjag 2008-09-01 20:23:20
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 1 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]505808[/snapback]
I can't find a transcipt of the golf club story, but I did come across this advice on the RICS website:

"If you are already a Trustee, Director or Officer of, for example, a voluntary organisation or sports or social club (whether a registered charity or not) you will almost certainly be relied upon as a “professionally qualified†person.

This reliance may, unreasonably, go further than it should. It is reasonable for your fellow committee or board members to rely upon your professional advice as a Surveyor and, subject to what has been said above, you can be insured for that. It is not, however, reasonable for them to rely upon your professional status as a Surveyor for any other advice whatsoever"

Indeed. I believe the crux of the matter is what can reasonably be construed as professional advice in the case of a retired professional and a bona fide 'friend' who has asked for an 'opinion'.

As I say, I'll hopefully get a response soon.

If not, I'll write to the English lot, and tell them the Scottish lot couldn't help.

Mortonjag will get an answer!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 20:28:43
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 1 2008, 08:26 PM) [snapback]505812[/snapback]
I don't want anyone confusing you with a Doctor. Should have got a second opinion on my need for a prostate exam.

Careful darling-Uncle Jaggy's feeling vulnerable about his quackery. You WERE impressed by the dead bodies in the cellar.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 20:36:37
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 1 2008, 08:26 PM) [snapback]505813[/snapback]
Someones coming! i can feel it in my bones.
.....or maybe thats arthritis.

Mr Donald is jetting in from 'Out of the Country' right now. He'll land at Glasgow Airport on the stroke of four and a half minutes past nine to be met by a beaming Mr Rae, who will hand over the club for £10,000, a lifetime seat in the Director's Box, Live is Life to be played at every game, and one million pounds for every goal scored by Kieran McAnespie in the remainder of his career.

Alistair already has pre contract arrangements with fifteen current premiership players-it's a done deal. The new state of the art stadium will be flown in on Friday, and assembled overnight on a hitherto undisclosed spot, though rumour has it that it won't be the Battery Park.

mortonjag 2008-09-01 20:39:31
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 1 2008, 08:32 PM) [snapback]505818[/snapback]
well they were arranged in order of height, weight and size of genitalia which i have to admit impressed me slightly. But back to topic, whats the topic again?

'Discuss the role of turkey sh1te in the defrocking of a charlatan'.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 20:41:56
QUOTE(Trust Member @ Sep 1 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]505825[/snapback]
And if Im not is that OK?
Is there a new rule on this board that members of the trust can only post if they tell you their name?
I dont think I have ever claimed to speak on behalf of the trust.

Thank goodness. You sound semi-intelligent and I'd hate my vision shattered.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 20:43:36
QUOTE(C B @ Sep 1 2008, 08:40 PM) [snapback]505828[/snapback]
It hasn't? Perhaps your time concept has sped up to blue bottle proportions happy.gif
DUH ! Of course blush.gif

Don't argue with me!

It's up to speed now.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 20:44:57
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 1 2008, 08:43 PM) [snapback]505834[/snapback]
Are DDFR and Craig Spiers twins or something? Few cases of mistaken identity on this thread.

NO
mortonjag 2008-09-01 20:47:08
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 1 2008, 08:41 PM) [snapback]505830[/snapback]
Just saw that Steven Pressley has signed for FC Randers of Denmark...that's one veteran defender we can't get our hands on then. rolleyes.gif

I once knew a Fr. Randers.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 20:51:36
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 1 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]505821[/snapback]
What, this guys arse?

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDNOPE
mortonjag 2008-09-01 20:52:26
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 1 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]505826[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-09-01 20:53:21
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 1 2008, 08:45 PM) [snapback]505836[/snapback]
Are DDFR and Craig Spiers twins or something? Few cases of mistaken identity on this thread.

NO
mortonjag 2008-09-01 20:54:18
QUOTE(scullerypress @ Sep 1 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]505840[/snapback]
Source??

Fing.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 21:16:40 I think we'll finish 5th.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 21:20:04
QUOTE(Trust Member @ Sep 1 2008, 08:56 PM) [snapback]505852[/snapback]
So do you sometimes.

You wouldn't believe it if I told you.

I do my best. I was thinking of changing my name to non-trust member. It has a certain ring of independence!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 21:23:16
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 1 2008, 08:58 PM) [snapback]505856[/snapback]
He was never Sir. CBE but not Sir.

He wasn't a singing POUFFE you see!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 21:26:47 Mr Rae has just been spotted at the autoteller.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 21:27:46
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Sep 1 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]505881[/snapback]
Fair enough.

FAIRY NUFF
mortonjag 2008-09-01 21:30:02 laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 21:32:13
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Sep 1 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]505890[/snapback]
What a surprise - Mortonjag post whoring, who'd a thunk it.



post wh*re


1. A newbie to an online forum who goes into overtime posting many short and usually meaningless posts in an attempt to raise their post count to pass the newbie stage ASAP.


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mortonjag 2008-09-01 21:37:45
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Sep 1 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]505868[/snapback]
Watch theadvert next time its on.
The guy on it is a dead ringer for our own bus organising se65an!

Him?

mortonjag 2008-09-01 21:38:56
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 1 2008, 09:36 PM) [snapback]505893[/snapback]
sobriety gives you the heebies tongue.gif

Delirium tremens to the educated! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 21:40:17 140
mortonjag 2008-09-02 06:12:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 01:25 AM) [snapback]506088[/snapback]
Gidday Stuart,

Firstly, my apologies for spelling your name incorrectly yesterday.

I cannot see any recent Ton specific updates on the Trust website apart from the Youth Development Donations.

Maybe Spotty et al don't really want to know about Mr Donald. Their current share in the club is as useful as a fart in a spacesuit. If Donald came in, their perceived power would totally vanish with a POUFFE.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 06:27:09
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 01:46 AM) [snapback]506093[/snapback]
With the current share issue, is it not an excellent time for the Trust to seek more members and increase its holding in the Ton from 4.6% ?

I really am bamboozled by this.

Are you saying that the Trust could buy out Mr Rae in the near future?

What are Spotty et al waiting for?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 06:52:53
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Aug 31 2008, 11:49 AM) [snapback]504820[/snapback]
Its been said before but rather than attacking the trust why not join it and benefit everyone with your superior knowledge and intellect ????

Let it go you bitter twisted old man dry.gif

How will a bitter twisted old man be able to benefit everyone by joining a disorganisation that's so skint and feckless that it could only shell out less than 10% of its potential investment in Mr Rae's latest offering.

If you really want to SPOT bitterness look no further than utterly unwarranted attacks on this poster for daring to question 'caput in ano' pronouncements like this-made only a few short months ago!


The Greenock Morton Supporters' Society, the Supporters’ Trust, is a visionary and successful way for fans to participate in owning their club, boldly putting the fans at the centre of everything it does. It's the embodiment of an ideal, the outcome of nearly a decade of endeavour to create a different sort of fan ownership, owned by fans dedicated to the success of Greenock Morton Football Club.




The Trust-in its current form, and in terms of its statutory intention is an anachronistic joke, perpetuated by utter apathy and ignorance within the fan base, the blinkered and self protective ego massaging of a couple of middle aged nobodies, and the genuine but misguided efforts of a small band of disciples.

signed


Bitter twisted old man.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 07:09:56
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 06:50 AM) [snapback]506106[/snapback]
Well, I know who Spotty is ... he eats raw meat.

But who is Al ?

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You haven't heard of Al-Newt?
Is he a myth?
Is he 'Out of the Country'?
Is he finalising his five page answer to the Trust's question posed two months ago?

If you meant 'al' it's a Latin abbreviation for 'alia' meaning 'others', and is most commonly encountered in the term 'alias'.

As in (chosen entirely at random)

Spot Ton alias Raw Meat Eater.

Mabawsa Ritchie alias menial pen pusher

Shimmin Ton alias Mower Man

Mortonjag alias Bitter twisted old man.


Happy to help!

mortonjag 2008-09-02 07:18:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 07:03 AM) [snapback]506109[/snapback]
How will a bitter twisted old man be able to benefit everyone by joining a disorganisation that's so skint and feckless that it could only shell out less than 10% of its potential investment in Mr Rae's latest offering.

Gidday MJ,

I don't know about the bitter and twisted old man, but there appears to be some twisted logic in your statement.

All of the funds in "Mr Rae's latest offering" are to be spent on Cappielow.

Work is at least 18 months away.

And, I believe, the offer is open for 5 years.

Somewhere, Sugar Rae said, and of course I am paraphasing:

If the other shareholders put in a million pounds, he will put in a million pounds as well.

I am not very good at arithmetic but:

GC has 75.1%

GMFCST has 4.6%

So, if the other shareholders put in 1,000,000 pounds and GC puts in 1,000,000 then, what happens ?

Apart from The New Improved Cappielow ready for the SPL.

I'm not surprised to have got it quite wrong again Newt-I really do get bamboozled by financial matters. Should I start eating raw meat?

Anyway it's absolutely fantastic to learn that the Trust is sticking a cool million into ground improvements.

I can see them in a new light already. Will Shimmin Ton be getting a new state of the art sit on mower complete with blinkers and laptop?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 07:26:31
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 07:16 AM) [snapback]506112[/snapback]
What's a menial pen ?

Should every household have one ?

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You stick to the MUNNY Newt!

I said 'Menial Pen Pusher'.

Menial-adjective

Pen -noun

Push-verb

As in pen pusher (menial) and not pusher of menial pen!


If I HAD to think of a meaning for Menial Pen-well perhaps pigsty would spring to mind, or sheepfold, or........Kennels, though you'll probably spot a slight deviation from the strict meaning of pen in the final example.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 07:30:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 07:12 AM) [snapback]506111[/snapback]
blush.gif blush.gif blush.gif

oops - I thought Al is Mr Donald.

I sure got that one wrong.

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MJ, did you see Mr Donald at Easter Road and/or New Broomfield ?

'Fraid not Newt-in fact I can state categorically he wasn't there as Fing was out on recce.

Wouldn't be surprised if he was on the 'phone from 'Out of the Country' at 4.45 p.m. on Saturday mind you!
mortonjag 2008-09-02 07:32:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 04:54 AM) [snapback]506100[/snapback]
200+ members and less than 10 attended the AGM ? ?

If that is correct, something is seriously amiss.

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Correct on all counts.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 07:34:40
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 07:29 AM) [snapback]506115[/snapback]
Jack Hughes !!!

I have solved the riddle.

MJ, do you wish to confess ?

You work for AD, don't you ?

Otherwise you wouldn't know that his letter is 5 pages long.

Unless, of course, you are on the board of the Trust.

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mortonjag 2008-09-02 07:47:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 01:39 AM) [snapback]506092[/snapback]
The Trust paid 118,000 pounds for 4.6% of the Ton

That gives a value of 2,565,217 pounds.

Hmm-and if 1000 devoted fans had stuck a mere £1 a day for the last seven years into a well spread managed fund, they'd now have enough to buy the old Sweetie Wife out right now with plenty to spare.

Just a thought from a bitter twisted old man.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 07:52:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 07:35 AM) [snapback]506119[/snapback]
Gidday MJ,

Don't be daft - please read what I wrote.

If the Trust AND the other minority shareholders, contribute 1,000,000 pounds, then GC will do the same.

GC has 75.1%

GMFCST has 4.6%

Therefore the other minority shareholders have 20.3%

So, I don't believe that the Trust would be allowed to purchase 1,333,333 shares.

If they did, the other shareholders would miss out, wouldn't they ?

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So Shimmin Ton WON'T be getting his all new state of the art sit on mower with blinkers and laptop after all? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 07:54:51
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 07:41 AM) [snapback]506122[/snapback]
don't be coy.

tell us the whole story PLEASE

I'll have to get permission first and Al's 'Out of the Country'.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 07:58:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 07:38 AM) [snapback]506121[/snapback]
Wouldn't he just listen to Andy's webcast, if he was out of the country ?

A lot cheaper than a phone call.

huh.gif

Ah-there's the rub

Al is a little bit chary about anything to do with the Trust. He's a meticulously careful man, and I think he regards them as a competitor when Mr Rae is no longer with us.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 08:23:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 07:55 AM) [snapback]506129[/snapback]
Naw - that widdnae work.

If the Trust had:

1,000 members

100% of the Ton

how would it select a manager, players, etc.

Wot's that saying about committees and camels.

Give me a benevolent dictatorship any day of the week.

Are you trying to get into Al's good books?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 08:25:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 08:08 AM) [snapback]506132[/snapback]
So, who told YOU about the 5 page letter ?

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It was uninformed speculation Newt.
Uninformed speculation by a bitter twisted old man!
mortonjag 2008-09-02 08:27:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 08:14 AM) [snapback]506133[/snapback]
blink.gif blink.gif

Why is Dominic cutting grass ?

Hasn't he played at Arsenal and QPR ?

You MUST be joking.

I think you need a holiday ... or a suspension.

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Newt joins the lynch mob! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 08:37:35 cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Sep 2 2008, 05:56 AM) [snapback]506101[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Another great piece of buisness by the Morton management and board, if you read this rag you really are a joke and need to have a good look at yourselves.[/quote]





That's a very confusing statement. Are you being sarcastic about the Club, the posters, or both?

At face value it's a TERRIBLE piece of business, and it's hardly going to go unnoticed that Jon Newby was left by Irons to carry the can for the defeat at Dundee and has hardly featured since.

We NEEDED signings and predictably didn't get them. We DID NOT need a weaker squad.

What the f*ck's going on--are we about to hear of two or three emergency loans in the next week or two?


I bloody well hope so.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 08:45:26
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 2 2008, 12:18 AM) [snapback]506038[/snapback]
When are we going to stop being a joke club? i said earlier that the only way to get fans back on side after saturday was a big name signing. Letting go one of our players where we have no cover is just stupid.

Anytime you get slightly excited about being a Morton fan the club or players find a new way to f*** us over.

When we are rid of our joke of a Chairman, his up arse joke minions who couldn't run a 'free shag' in a brothel, and we have an experienced Manager with resources to build a decent squad.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 09:33:24
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 2 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]506151[/snapback]
From what i heard this morning, things are not good at scappa wink.gif

Has The Chairman taken ill?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 10:25:04
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 2 2008, 09:48 AM) [snapback]506159[/snapback]
Naa, and i wouldnt wish that on anyone.
Players MJ, players ph34r.gif

The players are sick?

QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 2 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]506162[/snapback]
I am very surprised that our tactic of signing cr4p players and then lending them out has continued under Irons. If he's not what we need, why sign him in the first place? What is it with Morton that we don't seem to be capable of signing good players? McManus - hopeless. Newby - hopeless. Wake - disappointing although there may be something there. Masterton - jury still out. Stevenson and Millar - left.

Look at the players other teams are signing. Our squad has got second division written all over it, Jim McAllister excepted. Or maybe 8th place at best. Something needs to change.

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QUOTE(Mags @ Sep 2 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]506170[/snapback]
Newby was still living down South.He only trained with the team two days a week....not an ideal arrangement in my opinion.
I'd take a guess and say it was his decision to leave.
Mags.

Did he jump or was he pushed? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 10:29:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 08:30 AM) [snapback]506143[/snapback]
would you prefer exile ... et al.

huh.gif

At the moment I'd settle for Al!
mortonjag 2008-09-02 10:30:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 08:47 AM) [snapback]506147[/snapback]
would that be Mj et al ?

or al et mj ?

Al and the monkey could do better than the current shambles.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 10:35:46
QUOTE(Harper McGhee @ Sep 2 2008, 10:31 AM) [snapback]506180[/snapback]
Sounds pretty final whatever happened.

http://www.gmfc.net/News/&action=fullnews&id=49

Manager David Irons said "John has gone to Burton Albion on loan until the beginning of January. It was agreed by both parties that things hadn't worked out the way we would have liked since he came to Morton."

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mortonjag 2008-09-02 10:41:04 If what I'm hearing and reading is true, the captaincy is the least of our current worries.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 10:44:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 09:48 AM) [snapback]506158[/snapback]
Gidday MJ,

Give him time.

He's only been a Morton supporter for 3 weeks.
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I'd not be surprised if he's been a Morton employee for MUCH longer! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 10:49:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]506189[/snapback]
Aye, sadly, the week has just begun.

It never rains ...

I have received a couple of VERY disturbing emails.

Expect more news on http://gmfc.net/Home/ this afternoon.

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Good gracious-is Cappie in hospital again?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 10:54:03
QUOTE(SramTon @ Sep 1 2008, 11:42 PM) [snapback]505961[/snapback]
Henderson v Merrett 1995 (English case but followed in Scotland): a duty of care arises where the defendant has voluntarily assumed responsibility for the economic interests of the plaintiff with the knowledge that the plaintiff is relying on the defendant's expertise.

That relates to pure economic loss, and is likely to be relevant to solicitors, surveyors etc. A disclaimer is therefore a not bad idea in order to demonstrate that responsibility has not been assumed.

Where it is medical advice that is being given, and the prospect is of physical bodily harm then I think its more a straightforward Donoghue v Stevenson liability. Duty of care owed towards the recipient of that advice and (probably) foreseeable consequences if that medical advice is duff.

Anyway, I'm going to include another disclaimer: I assume no responsibility to anyone for the accuracy of the foregoing.

Link?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 10:55:59
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Sep 2 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]506176[/snapback]
Maybe she killed him?

Any sign of a helicopter?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 11:00:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]506204[/snapback]
The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams.
Does that mean the future belongs to the Ton ?

Nope-it means some clown said something ridiculous.

The future belongs to those who don't die NOW.

Mortonjag.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 11:04:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 10:46 AM) [snapback]506191[/snapback]
Ron plays for the Ton.

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In which position?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 11:20:38
QUOTE(Davie @ Sep 2 2008, 11:17 AM) [snapback]506213[/snapback]
Ignore them, they both know hee-haw and just seek attention. smile.gif

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Last night when I went up the stair
I saw a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish that man would go away.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 11:23:52
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Sep 2 2008, 11:17 AM) [snapback]506214[/snapback]
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Is DI transmuting to JM?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 11:36:26
QUOTE(PCP @ Sep 2 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]506225[/snapback]
Saw the boy in the gym a few times in Greenock, cut a bit of a lonely figure to be honest.

All the best to him.

If only Zoe had known-he might still be here-he only needed to score a couple of times you know! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 11:39:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 11:28 AM) [snapback]506221[/snapback]
Is that common this time of day ???

Very strange ?

fing sez thare prawbly vulchers.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 11:41:55
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 11:26 AM) [snapback]506220[/snapback]
I tell you, MJ ... it was that bloody phone call.

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Al will be revealed!
mortonjag 2008-09-02 11:43:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 11:40 AM) [snapback]506230[/snapback]
He's only away on loan - Zoe could be his pen pal ASAP.

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A proper pen pal?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 11:59:17
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 2 2008, 11:49 AM) [snapback]506236[/snapback]
Now Mr Jag, are you talking about the infamous Big Blue Jugs as if she were a real "girl"? I thought it was only The Mortonbug that believed she was for real? rolleyes.gif

I just like to keep an open mind Mrs T.

I have no strong feelings about the said Zoe.

If indeed it's a man, I'm still impressed by its picture! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 12:00:48
QUOTE(Jackie @ Sep 2 2008, 11:49 AM) [snapback]506237[/snapback]
Why do people feel the need to do this? Do people post stuff like this just so when the s*** hits the fan they can say they knew about it first? If it's going to come out why not just tell everyone?

This hush hush stuff just adds more flames to the fire and doesn't help anyone.

Sounds like you know more than you're saying! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 12:08:24
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Sep 2 2008, 12:04 PM) [snapback]506249[/snapback]
No action to be taken against Weatherson - a quote from Irons in today's Evening Times:

"I watched the DVD of the game and I am aware of no angry reaction from Peter. No professional likes to be substituted before the break so I wouldn't expect him to be happy. But now all our focus is on Queen of the South."

There's a thread on that topic.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 12:12:21
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 2 2008, 12:09 PM) [snapback]506252[/snapback]
thats not quite true, now the value invested is worth 4.6% but you have to remember there have been 4 share issues in that time which has altered the % of the share holding

Have those share issues devalued the Trust's investment?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 12:37:40
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 2 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]506266[/snapback]
the first two we increased the value of our investment, by the time the 3rd and 4th came it did, as remember to stay at the same percentage we needed to buy the same amount of shares we had before even increasing the amount we had.

In other words, unless the Trust finds some way to massively boost interest in its effectiveness as the financial 'voice of the fans', it's becoming a bit of a 'white elephant'?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 12:41:39
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Sep 2 2008, 12:34 PM) [snapback]506267[/snapback]
The change was made 15 minutes too late, which probably caused us the game. He should have come off after about 20 minutes and we should have went to 4-4-2 as he was getting an absolute roasting by their right midfielder. Irons reacted to the issue way too slowly.

We didn't trouble their goalie very much!
mortonjag 2008-09-02 12:54:01
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Sep 2 2008, 12:46 PM) [snapback]506278[/snapback]
That is a very good point, but even at 2-0 down the game is still salvagable(sp?). Had we shored up with 4 at the back at that stage, and even closed out the half, we could have recovered in the 2nd half. A long shot I know, but at 3-0 down by the 34th minute or so the heads were down, and they weren't coming back up.

I think sometimes you just have to honestly accept when you're well and truly gubbed.

Weatherson was NEVER a full back (right or left) despite the fact that so many bought into the utter crap that he and JM talked, but the truth is that on Saturday we were well outplayed in every department from an utterly feckless goalkeeper through a fragmented defence, and non existent midfield to an attack which the Airdrie boys had on toast from the kick off.

What I think about Saturday was that we just failed to turn up en masse, and we can't blame our midweek cup tie as Airdrie beat Hearts the night after our victory.

Just a bad day at the office, or something more sinister?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 13:03:56
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 2 2008, 12:55 PM) [snapback]506287[/snapback]
I'm really annoyed to see Irons do an Arsene Wenger and say he didn't see anything when, as you say, the whole Morton support saw it. I'd have more respect for Irons if he simply came out and said he thinks Peter was justified in being annoyed as he was sarcastically cheered - if that's the reason he is backing him by saying he didn't see anything.

Which begs the question. WHY?

Up till now DI has come over as an honest, up front, refreshing improvement on the Muppet whom Mr Rae wanted to keep.

He's now reacting to pressure IMO.

What kind of pressure and from where?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 13:17:18
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Sep 2 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]506295[/snapback]
00000000hhhh............................let me guess.

go on ,let me, let me rolleyes.gif

Guess away cloth ears-here are some suggestions.


The Chairman.

The players

His wife and family

The Bank Manager

The fans!!!


One thing's for sure-he's definitely reacting to pressure.

Another thing's for sure-your post was even less funny than usual. smile.gif


mortonjag 2008-09-02 13:22:58
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 2 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]506300[/snapback]
Donoghue v Stevenson was the famous case where there was a bit of decomposed animal found in a sealed ginger ale bottle. It is often used to illustrate that the manufacturer of the ginger ale had a duty of care to the purchaser. Professional people, therefore, have a duty of care to those who they advise.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 14:36:43
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 2 2008, 11:51 AM) [snapback]506239[/snapback]
laugh.gif He lives quite near the cemetary as well. ph34r.gif ohmy.gif

I knew it was near the dead centre of town.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 14:43:50
QUOTE(grnklad2006ton @ Sep 2 2008, 01:26 PM) [snapback]506303[/snapback]
Whats the bad news ???? Just saw that in the Greenock tellegraph, oh well can't say for one second that he will be missed. Told a few before the season started he was nothing special and now he s on loan, rest my case wink.gif .

Your case, as you describe it, would only be valid if he's been shipped because he wasn't adequate.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 14:47:14
QUOTE(Edinton @ Sep 2 2008, 01:35 PM) [snapback]506307[/snapback]
I tell you, Hibs must be really, REALLY bad because I thought we were excellent last Tuesday. No idea what team turned up on Saturday but doesn't sound like the same one.

We were excellent-what did your Hibee friends think?

On Saturday we just failed to turn up, and TOO many folk are writing Airdrie off-they have an astute manager and beat Hearts which I think was an even greater achievement than ours, given their lack of preparation as a first division side.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 15:29:11
QUOTE(Edinton @ Sep 2 2008, 03:12 PM) [snapback]506351[/snapback]
That if they'd taken their chances they would have won by about 6 or 7. That we had the referee on our side. That their defence is awful and we were sooo jammy.

I took offence at all their - and Mixu's - whining about the ref and repeatedly mentioned that at no point was our performance mentioned by any of them, and mentioned that we were 2 nil up on our terms and it took 2 wonder goals to get them even.

I was looking for a reaction from Morton on Saturday but we were probably playing the worst possible team because sure enough they produced the sort of performance you'd expect from a team still exuberant from a great result in mid-week.

In other words their noses were in a poke! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 15:38:06
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Sep 2 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]506327[/snapback]
Let's get this straight. McCormack was punted from Cappielow because even at the start of the season, we were still having to score 5 or 6 goals at home to beat the likes of Stenhousemuir and Arbroath. Defensively, he was even wrose at organising than McInally. That kind of result isn't going to keep happening, it was inevitable that at some stage goals would dry up and we would have no plan b. Regardless of off-field shenanigans, McCormack still wasn't all that great, and should have been punted in February of that year, the new contract he received is just further proof of the hopelessness of the current regime.
Perhaps it is worth questioning just why he has been shown the door so many times even when things seem ok on the surface, rather than getting the violins out for him? And if he gives up a job on the basis of a promise from the chairman, rather than the guy he was going to be assisting, then he's an even bigger fool.

So it had nothing to do with the dressing room?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 15:42:23
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Aug 31 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]505100[/snapback]
The first team resembles a pub team and the U-19s is like BB football.


Who DID put Hibs out of the cup!
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Aug 31 2008, 11:30 PM) [snapback]505190[/snapback]
Out of interest does your boy play for the 19's? I was told by Derek Collins that they were going to make the 19's fulltime has this happened?

I think the boy Kenny is from Dunoon and I may play him next year against Gourock MSC just to annoy Davie McArthur laugh.gif

There are much easier ways, it would appear! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 15:46:46
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 2 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]506383[/snapback]
DDFR will need to sell more sweeties first though blink.gif

Millions?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 15:49:31
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 2 2008, 03:05 PM) [snapback]506346[/snapback]
Is he young enough ph34r.gif

Going by his cheek-AYE! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 15:51:08
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 2 2008, 03:33 PM) [snapback]506378[/snapback]
Can anyone put us out of our misery, did the randy old bugger go on his date yet? unsure.gif ph34r.gif

He's not been posting at all-I hope everything's OK.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 16:25:13
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 2 2008, 04:07 PM) [snapback]506419[/snapback]
more like rip.gif

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I was talking to the local butcher a couple of days ago. No matter how old you are you still learn something new every day-if you want to!

Apparently they 'hang' the meat for weeks-it has to start decomposing before it tastes best. When it's ready they have to cut off a black (I suppose technically gangrenous) layer before the butchering starts.

Enjoy your next juicy sirloin steak!
mortonjag 2008-09-02 16:41:48 [quote name='Last Boat Home' date='Sep 2 2008, 04:07 PM' post='506418']
Agreed Davie – it’s unbelievable that there can be talk of a ban for attempting to become more annoying than the most annoying person on the board.

When did “Out-Jagging the Jag†become a banning offence?
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It's an alias (or not) designed specifically to target one user, and it's not on - regardless of which user they are targeting.


That was the Mod's opinion in his response to McArthur.

I assume you either missed that or are deliberately condoning behaviour which clearly contravened the forum rules. Either way it seems -shall we say-not very bright!

I can sit quite light to abuse so long as I know the Mods will deal with if if it's taken too far. It's FREQUENTLY been taken too far in the past and I've never complained. Recently there have been deliberate sniping attacks-totally unrelated to the discussion in hand-often using my surname, sometimes attempting to belittle my profession, and on at least three occasions from employees of Greenock Morton, or representatives of GMST.

That sort of abuse will continue to be reported.

I don't know if you realise LBH, but posts like yours only encourage interest in 'the most annoying poster on the board'. If you don't want the Jag mentioned-don't mention him.

Mortonjag is annoying for many reasons, but MOST ANNOYING when he dares to ask uncomfortable questions! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 16:52:51
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 2 2008, 03:54 PM) [snapback]506404[/snapback]
Black Street in Glasgow? ph34r.gif

Good God woman-what age are you if you attended Black St?

Anyway-what I meant to say is that Willy Man's one of the forum good guys. Assuming he's not been murdered and didn't get that 'hole' I'll offer him a buckshee shag when he's back.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 16:59:54 What amazes me every time this thread recurs is that folk want to argue varying shades of opinion about how good or bad either set of fans is.

It always strikes me that there's an undercurrent of slight dishonesty-not by any stretch of the imagination closet Hunnery or Timmery but maybe a wee prejudice here and there underlying apparently unbiased posts.

For what it's worth I think one lot is definitely as bad as the other! ph34r.gif




































but thae Tims are the worst.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 17:37:42
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 2 2008, 05:19 PM) [snapback]506465[/snapback]
I can't watch anyone getting a jag from the doc or a nurse. I regularly give blood and have to look away when they stick the needle into me. Don't mind getting the needle put in, it's not sore or anything, just can't watch it. According to the last nurse who did it it is one of the most common fears they come across.

I like spiders and things like that. Don't like slaters though. Oh aye and I can't stand anything flying in front of my face.

I don't think it's unnatural to hate seeing somebody sticking a needle in you!

Having said that I used to take blood from myself when I was running a cholesterol trial at the surgery!
mortonjag 2008-09-02 17:50:32
QUOTE(Tokyoton @ Sep 2 2008, 05:15 PM) [snapback]506460[/snapback]
You`re the most annoying as you ruin almost every single thread on here. As an exile this place is the only really good source of information I have and you really, really have , almost single handedly ruined this board for me.

I assume you're referring to Mortonjag.

He really is one VERY annoying poster. ph34r.gif

Is Mortonjag allowed to get annoyed too?

Mortonjag gets slightly amused by posters who claim that he 'ruins almost every single thread'!

Mortonjag attempts to be pleasant, and happy at all times despite his advancing decrepitude.

Mortonjag starts threads which stimulate interest.

Mortonjag asks probing questions which make him unpopular with folk who have things to hide.

Mortonjag does not attack-he only defends his corner.

Mortonjag cannot unfortunately cater for all tastes.

Please inform Mortonjag of your preferences, and he will attempt to start a thread which will make you cheerful. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 17:58:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 05:40 PM) [snapback]506484[/snapback]
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Aug 10 2008, 06:51 AM)

The fans are not the main source of income for Morton, the Golden Casket Group is.
Gidday SmithsTON,

What income does the Ton get from Golden Casket apart from the shirt sponsorship and the staff tickets for Golden Casket employees ?

Does Golden Casket do a lot of corporate entertaining in the hospitality at Cappielow ?

I think Anus may be 'Out of the Country' Newt!
mortonjag 2008-09-02 18:04:36
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Sep 2 2008, 05:56 PM) [snapback]506500[/snapback]
That was the Mod's opinion in his response to McArthur.

I assume you either missed that or are deliberately condoning behaviour which clearly contravened the forum rules. Either way it seems -shall we say-not very bright!

I can sit quite light to abuse so long as I know the Mods will deal with if if it's taken too far. It's FREQUENTLY been taken too far in the past and I've never complained. Recently there have been deliberate sniping attacks-totally unrelated to the discussion in hand-often using my surname, sometimes attempting to belittle my profession, and on at least three occasions from employees of Greenock Morton, or representatives of GMST.

That sort of abuse will continue to be reported.

I don't know if you realise LBH, but posts like yours only encourage interest in 'the most annoying poster on the board'. If you don't want the Jag mentioned-don't mention him.

Mortonjag is annoying for many reasons, but MOST ANNOYING when he dares to ask uncomfortable questions! smile.gif
And that was my response to Davies’s post not the Mods.

Typically, even in your response to my post you include one of your trademark snide attempts to put down another poster and if I had the time I would drag out some of your insulting and personal comments directed at SpotTon and nach0king to name but two - on the other hand you did call me a babe in one of your previous responses or was it a suckling?

Yet you are above criticism or “abuse†frequently making out that it is the people receiving the abuse from you who have a problem. As for belittling people’s professions surely you are the master at that?

Employees of GMFC and GMST members have had a pop at you on the board – well if they are members of message board and you are continuously digging them up and criticising their work surely they are entitled to respond? You can’t have it all ways - treat people with respect and you will get respect.

I used to think that that you only gave it the intellectually superior being bit when anyone challenged you but it has become something of a fixture particularly when you get involved with younger posters.

Given the persona you have created for yourself on here, is it any wonder someone is taking the rip? If I have missed something and there has been some outrageous, inappropriate comments made then I hope the Mods do take the appropriate action but as far as I can see Ron Number has been at times mildly amusing! His/her childish parody will very quickly become boring but if that was reason enough to ban him/her then you would have gone ages ago for your “sugar Rae†patter.

Where I do agree with you is the encouraging interest in you by responding and I promised myself that I wouldn’t get caught up in your nonsense. Unfortunately, I bit and here I am ph34r.gif

In anticipation of your response and for the record I am not and never have been an employee of the club, nor am I a friend/acquaintance/lover of any of the Rae family, have supported GMFC for 35 years, consider myself to be reasonably well educated (but undoubtedly not to your satisfaction,) not a current member of the Trust, much too old to qualify for the “son†routine and I don’t believe wanking is a sin! rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-02 18:12:57
QUOTE(Youngsa @ Sep 2 2008, 05:24 PM) [snapback]506472[/snapback]
The one thing that has seemed to follow Cowboy around were the rumours of poor treatment of younger players, not giving them the time of day and bawling them out for no reason in particular other than to push his weight about.

Now given that the Hamilton ethos seems to be about building the club from youth upwards then an attitude like that from anyone wouldn't quite fit in.

I know someone at the club and he never disagreed when I put the above to him in work today about Cowboy being shown the door.

So it might have had something to do with the dressing room after all?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 18:38:28
QUOTE(Tokyoton @ Sep 2 2008, 06:06 PM) [snapback]506507[/snapback]
Try one of those resignation threads!

Seriously though, have you ever tried contacting Morton and tried to get some serious dialogue going? You do appear to be concerned with whats going on so why not try to do something constructive like get an independent supporters group going and demand some answers.

It just seems that you have a lot of serious issues with the board but you seem quite happy to come on here and bump your gums without making any serious attempt to do anything about it.

For what its worth I think you may have a lot of valid points but I feel you`re flogging a dead horse on here and would be better putting to people who matter. I think you`re wasting your time time constantly starting threads for teenagers and drunk folk in Japan.

If you`re as smart as you make out to be do something about it or haud yit feekin wheest!


I have indeed as have several others. The response is invariably 'no reply'.

I wrote to the Club for example about the AD question. No reply. Only when I personally e-mailed Mr Rae's PA at Golden Casket was a response forthcoming-directly from Crawford Rae.

I received an e-mail from the Chief Executive several days later 'hoping that I'd been satisfied with Crawford's response'. I thanked her graciously, commenting that I believed the fans had a genuine interest in Mr Donald's involvement, and that it might be an idea for the Club to give some guidance. I received no reply. That is one of countless examples!

I appreciate that you post infrequently, and don't know how much of the forum you read on a day to day basis. Many posters have complained regularly that they get no response to letters to the Club.

Far from 'flogging a dead horse on here', the dead horse is flogged in attempting to get blood out of the stone that is the Cappielow Mafia.

This little massage board seems the only place where genuine Ton supporters like you and me and many others can exchange views and air frustrations. It is possibly much more effective than you imagine in getting the message over-witness recent personal abuse I've received from employees of GMFC, who IMHO should keep quiet if they don't like constructive criticism of their paymaster.

I've said this before, and for some reason it always irritates those who simply 'don't like' Mortonjag, but I regularly share personal messages with many posters who are like minded.

Many, I should add, who like yourself originally couldn't understand Mortonjag.

Feel free to join MJ's p.m. club.

You may have your eyes opened! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 18:40:55
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 2 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]506513[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

[deep breath]

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Let's just say that when the opportunity has presented itself the Jag hasn't exactly covered himself in glory wink.gif

Explanation required here Cawstick. blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 18:43:51
QUOTE(Tokyoton @ Sep 2 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]506523[/snapback]
No,no,no!
He was away in London that day, if I remember correctly.

That was his his big chance to bring the regime down. Sadly for us he was other wise engaged.

He truly is a joke of a man!

Perhaps you could have waited for my response to your apparently genuine post!

Damned if I do, and damned if I don't- eh? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 18:49:32
QUOTE(Tokyoton @ Sep 2 2008, 06:43 PM) [snapback]506528[/snapback]
It really is`not.

You shat your pants when given the chance to give it to the Raes. You`re a fraud and most people here know it.

I responded to your apparently genuine post. I am far from a 'fraud', though I invite you to provide any evidence to the contrary, AND to respond to my post. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 19:20:36
QUOTE(Tokyoton @ Sep 2 2008, 07:00 PM) [snapback]506536[/snapback]
If there`s a group of people that agree with Mortonjag, get together and try to force a meeting. Morton aren`t a huge club and I`m sure this would be achievable.

I`m sick and tired of reading what now appears to be Mortonjags personal agenda.

I used to think he was good contributor to this forum. He now seems to have dragged it down to the point where people actively avoid it.

This is a good place to get Morton fans together, no matter where they are in the world, but you're constant sniping is putting people off.

I`m sure you`re a good guy but please try and be more constructive. You`ve a lot t offer. Please try and do something more constructive than snipe on here.

I try to be good. One of my characteristics is that I tend to do things my way. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, and I encourage others to do the same.

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 2 2008, 07:02 PM) [snapback]506537[/snapback]
Aye now and then...but you have to get through the back and forths between him and Newton to actually find some substance. It is simply not worth it. I'm finding myself more and more just reading the general nonsense and Jesse James areas.

It's horses for courses young man. I think McArthur was maybe a wee bit hard on you, but you really do spend most of your time posting fairly mundane stuff-silly wee pictures etc., and NEVER seem to have a serious opinion on anything.

QUOTE(Tokyoton @ Sep 2 2008, 07:09 PM) [snapback]506542[/snapback]
He`s up there with Newton, Deego manky dug as the dullest posters.

I really wouldn`t worry yourself.

I find Deego very amusing-he is misunderstood.

I find NewTon very interesting-he is misunderstood.

I find the Manky Dug a pain in the arse when he's 'havin' a go' at Mortonjag, but otherwise he's very wise and witty!

I'm pretty happy to live and let live except when attacked! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 19:23:27
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 2 2008, 05:48 PM) [snapback]506493[/snapback]
Utter utter farce. If there was any part of the team we couldn't lose anyone from it was the striker position.

We sign a guy from England then after one month and a few games into the season we loan him back to a team in England because we can't guarentee him first team football...bollox ! .

This is quite diabolical with the way this season is going. Irons has not covered himself in glory with this signing debacle. And to be honest, my faith in him is diminishing more and more as each week passes. mad.gif

Couldn't agree more, Spurtle!
mortonjag 2008-09-02 19:27:37
QUOTE(Tokyoton @ Sep 2 2008, 06:14 PM) [snapback]506510[/snapback]
Who is Smithston and how is he an employee given that he lives in New Zealand?

Why ask me?

Does he live in New Zealand? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 19:36:50
QUOTE(Tokyoton @ Sep 2 2008, 07:29 PM) [snapback]506557[/snapback]
The Manky one is one o my best mates! He was the joke the rest do annoy me.

You annoy me the most though! You seem to have a dossier on the Raes and their mis-management of the club I love and yet you seem happy to do nothing about it.

If this is the case then you are complicit in the downfall of a football team I love.

That's an interesting proposition.

May I propose that by absenting yourself from Cappielow, the consequent loss of income is far more likely (when compounded) to lead to the downfall of the club, that any ALLEGED 'doing nothing about it' by this poster.

Big B has just given you a concise answer.

I'll be more than happy to listen to any suggestions you care to make to rectify the mismanagement of the Club YOU love. Just remember we ALL love the club, so direct your battle plan to all posters please. Mortonjag has already done FAR more than the majority.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 19:40:13
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 2 2008, 07:38 PM) [snapback]506561[/snapback]
Coming from someone who has posted so little over his time as part of this board I will take this with a large pinch of salt smile.gif
That's because I don't give two-tosses anymore about all these all so important things that get discussed ad nauseam on this forum. Back in the beginning of it all I tried to work up some interest but the continued onslaught and repetition of themes resulted in me just sticking to my fairly mundane stuff, silly wee pictures etc which I am happy to with.

I have no problem with that-live and let live.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 19:46:48
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Sep 2 2008, 07:40 PM) [snapback]506564[/snapback]
According to you the last thing we needed was another striker as we've so many of them already at the club. Are you now saying that is not the case? Surely if there is an abundance of strikers then losing one as poor as Newby is no big deal?

Another striker was NEVER a priority so long as we had Newby. I did not regard him as 'poor'. he and Russell were making a good job of doubling as wingers when Wakey was 'on song' Now we've lost a striker/winger.

In any case, I suspect you deliberately ignored the latter two thirds of Spurtle's post-which was the part with which I was most empathic!
mortonjag 2008-09-02 19:51:36
QUOTE(Tokyoton @ Sep 2 2008, 07:36 PM) [snapback]506559[/snapback]
It seemed like you knew who he was.

Mind you he might be like me and be kidding on to live far away whilst actually spending every waking hour watching you!

The problem is that you're best not just to descend on the forum every now and again when you've had two or three Sakis!

The 'Out of the Country' comment is well understood by regular posters who incidentally also well understand how much effort Jaggy has made to get answers! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 19:55:11
QUOTE(Tokyoton @ Sep 2 2008, 07:45 PM) [snapback]506569[/snapback]
No my friend you haven't. I think you`re a very intelligent man who has seen the problems that are deep rooted within Cappielow. I`m stuck here in Japan and there`s very little I can do about it. You on the other hand claim to have a dossier full off mis-management which you choose do nothing with.

Your use of capitals to quote the team I love do you no credit.

So you haven't a clue what should be done or how.

I knew that.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 20:03:35
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 2 2008, 07:57 PM) [snapback]506578[/snapback]
As a supporter I think you have every right to be angry about this MidTon. Basically we have been left in the lurch without any back up striker being brought in.
The timing of it is extraordinary to say the least. The last day of the transfer deadline, fexake !

I understand if the player is homesick. But could he not have stuck it out a few months until Xmas ? We could have made contingency plans for this.
I'm bewildered about why he was signed in the first place now...A few games into the season and we let him go.. blink.gif

Well-accepting he was homesick, and it takes a while to get over that, he WAS made the scapegoat for the Dundee loss and hardly figured thereafter. I believe that was a disgraceful piece of misjudgement, compounded by poor man management.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 20:07:06
QUOTE(Tokyoton @ Sep 2 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]506579[/snapback]
The out of country comment? What`s that supposed to mean?

My grandfather supported Morton as does my father. My grandfather is dead and my father has MS. My grandfather doesn`t go because he`s dead and my father because he can`t.

I don`t go because i live 7000 miles away.

I`m sure that renders us much less worthy of an opinion than Mortonjag. This is something I accept.

Well you are the one who's saying that. If that's what you really think, I'll not argue.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 20:09:16
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 2 2008, 08:04 PM) [snapback]506581[/snapback]
I wouldn't be surprised if the club left it this late to let him go so they wouldnt have time to sign anyone else, which is obviously what the fans would be urging them to do.

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mortonjag 2008-09-02 20:14:13
QUOTE(Tokyoton @ Sep 2 2008, 05:44 PM) [snapback]506489[/snapback]
Is any of that meant to be funny?
The use of apostrophes would suggest that it was.
It wasn`t in the slightest.

No-it was a serious comment made in response to Weegie. The solitary apostrophe was used appropriately.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 20:20:40
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 2 2008, 08:06 PM) [snapback]506583[/snapback]
I remember people talking about it when i was young, i can assure you i never attended it. ohmy.gif

It was a busy place near Glasgow Royal-the VD clinic, the Rheumatic Diseases Clinic and round the corner the Royal itself.

Some of the bus conductors used to 'take the piss' if an attractive young woman asked for 'a single to Black St.', simply winking knowingly as they handed over the ticket!
mortonjag 2008-09-02 20:24:51
QUOTE(Tokyoton @ Sep 2 2008, 08:08 PM) [snapback]506586[/snapback]
I`m sure you did.

You claim to know the problems. You hint at knowing the answers.
I put it to you that you get off your arse and do something about it!

i`m in feekin Japan my and dads in a wheelchair. What the f do you want us to do about it!?!?

You`re the one that claims to know what`s wrong. DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

It`s 4 am out hear and I`ve got work today so I expect it to be sorted by the time I get up

Just chucked my day job and now working mostly nights and i find myself drawn towards getting s***faced every night as i dont have to get up in the mornings. Ive the option of studying Japanese, Ikebana, tea ceremony, kendo, caligraphy,paying my Japanese council tax, but no im always getting s***faced.

Im happy but guilty. Is this wrong?


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mortonjag 2008-09-02 20:29:24
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 2 2008, 07:45 PM) [snapback]506570[/snapback]
Last year i put Weatherson in mine after he scored inthe first two games of the season, he was pish after then.

This year i put Mcalister and Partaalu in and Mcalister didn't go over the half way line and Partaalu couldnt pass to his teammates. So im never putting Morton players in my team again.

I replaced Mcalister with Chris Millar and St Johnstone have proceeded to get humped every game since.

Just put Leigh Griffiths up front in place of Mcmennamin so expect him to be rendered pish now.

Excellent choice-I expect him to move to a much bigger club within a season.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 20:42:23 The negativity boys at it again! laugh.gif

Just seven short days ago I reckon most of us thought we'd arrived.

We're all on a downer-understandably.

Funny old game-we'll probably cuff Queens on Sunday and everything will be fixed!


C'MON YE TON


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mortonjag 2008-09-02 20:51:02
QUOTE(big B @ Sep 2 2008, 08:41 PM) [snapback]506605[/snapback]
At the moment things don't seem to be too good down Cappielow way the Hibs game apart, I just can't see Dougie going into the lions den to get mauled at by a room full of Morton fans.

A lot has changed since the old days in the third division. Most of all the fans perception of Mr Rae has altered quite significantly, especially in the last year.

He's not daft-as you said he'll only 'answer questions' now, when he knows he's running the show.


I can't believe the naivety of posters who say-DO SOMETHING-especially when they don't have a clue themselves what to do or how to do it.

Mr Rae still reigns supreme at Cappielow, even if he's rapidly running out of loyal subjects.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 21:04:41
QUOTE(SramTon @ Sep 2 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]506610[/snapback]
Generally speaking (except for Bupa etc) there is no contract between the doctor and patient and therefore most medical negligence cases are based on a Donaghue v Stevenson liability.

If, during a consultation, a doctor misadvises a patient then there is potential for a claim in negligence. I can't see why the same principle would not apply to a retired doctor informally providing advice over the internet. However, there are issues of reasonableness to consider and the standard of care required would have to be less.

I think it's unlikely you would have any problems, but I suspect there is at least a theoretical risk. I very much doubt there has yet been a case involving this type of advice over the internet (hence no link).

Anyway, I'm adding my usual disclaimer to the above. wink.gif

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There is probably 'a potential for a claim' attaching to every human interaction with another!

As you suggest 'reasonableness' or as I prefer, 'common sense' would clearly determine the outcome of any litigation.

Anyhow, I've still not heard from the MDDUS---


or the SFA, or Gillian Donaldson.

Does Gillian Donaldson have a duty of care to her paying customers BTW? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 21:43:19
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 2 2008, 09:31 PM) [snapback]506629[/snapback]
For a man on a hattrick you're being uncharacteristically modest wink.gif
Doesn't suit you tongue.gif
I concur.

When I think of the sacrifices you've made for this club I could weep. I mean come on, 23000 posts of sheer painstaking monotony was a huge undertaking, only you could have made it look so easy biggrin.gif
I assure you brother, we all felt the pain of every single, solitary post.

And all for the love of Mortonjag

I salute you sir.

If 23000 posts have taught us anything it must be that only the naive buy shares, attend forums or try to engage in dialogue with "the Raegime".

Real change can only come from having a right good hissy fit on the internet, Mortonjag has shown the way.

Good call Jaggie, you can count me in.

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The Monkey loves the JAG bit.

Nothing 'two beetah gude benanoe' he sez.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 21:52:31
QUOTE(SramTon @ Sep 2 2008, 09:24 PM) [snapback]506628[/snapback]
I've now added the word "successful" to my last post.

I think common-sense his its place when you are deciding what advice to give and how far to go. There's advice and then there's advice. There are lines to be crossed that no sensible professional would go beyond when giving "informal advice" over the internet. If someone was to start crossing those lines then they are asking for trouble.

Believe it or not, all of that had occurred to me before I ever gave any advice, and believe it or not I've never had a complaint lodged against me in my whole career.

I'm still curious to hear what the MDDUS think, but meantime if you have an ingrowing toenail, a boil on your backside, or just want an opinion on the correct way to slip on a condom, feel free to p.m.! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 21:54:51
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 2 2008, 08:23 PM) [snapback]506594[/snapback]
Out of interest. Read in the paper a guy is getting putting on the sex offenders register and fined about £600 for sexually indecent texts he sent to a 14 year old girl.

What are peoples take on this punishment?

String him up!
mortonjag 2008-09-03 06:37:17
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 2 2008, 11:16 PM) [snapback]506660[/snapback]
I think many feel and share your pain.

I'm sure others do suffer when folk go overboard on their betes noires. Puggs may concur.
mortonjag 2008-09-03 07:26:21
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Sep 2 2008, 09:53 PM) [snapback]506636[/snapback]
I must admit as far as I understood right from the start, Alistair Donald was only involved on the basis of his business knowledge, rather than as an investor or buyer of the club.


And as far as I understand he wants control of the club.
QUOTE(Trust Member @ Sep 2 2008, 10:18 PM) [snapback]506640[/snapback]
I dont want to nitpick about this but I dont think devalued is the right word.

I think devalued was exactly the right word in the context of the Trust having a say in GMFC-WHAT IT'S THERE FOR!

QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 2 2008, 10:31 PM) [snapback]506642[/snapback]
Surely The Trust are tying to gain as large a percentage possible , so adding value to shares that will not be sold holds no useful purpose to the Trust .
Infact what useful purpose does this share issue have unless there is another major investor willing to come in ?

Which of course begs the question-when's AD going to get involved?

QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 2 2008, 10:33 PM) [snapback]506643[/snapback]
The reason I ask is that as far as I'm aware there has never been any public announcement that Alistair Donald would be purchasing shares in Morton or was even interested in getting financially involved with Morton.

I'd be intrigued to read something to the contrary.

You posted the Tilly report JonaTon. Why is his comment that 'he won't be getting involved financially AT THIS STAGE, totally ignored by those who prefer to spin the 'only in an advisory capacity'?

QUOTE(TaunTon @ Sep 2 2008, 10:59 PM) [snapback]506654[/snapback]
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For the life of me I cannot understand what the MJ/Newton crew are trying to achieve with their slightly obsessional postings on AD. Do they want him to buy out Golden Casket or do they see him as some sort of evil waiting in the wings? If they want him to invest do they think they are likely to encourage him with their campaign or do they consider him as being dangerous to the club.

I fail to see any logic behind this and I'd be grateful if someone would explain.

You plainly misunderstand much if you believe in a 'MJ/Newton crew'. For such a fertile imagination to 'rubbish' genuine individual interest in our club's future is somewhat incongruous!

QUOTE(TaunTon @ Sep 3 2008, 12:25 AM) [snapback]506698[/snapback]
No Newton not OK. Are you trying to tell me that you and MJ have spent hours raising the issue of AD, his status as a director, companies house etc etc etc in post after post on the basis of an 'unsubstantiated' post on this board that nobody can find?

I can't speak for NewTon. When I started the original AD thread, I did so because I believed genuine Morton fans would be genuinely interested in the function of a mega wealthy man at Cappielow.

Nothing which supervened has done anything to suggest that I was incorrect. Interest has been enormous. AD 'arrived' with a 'Tilly' splash, then just seemed to disappear. After almost six months and only a rare sighting (during which time Crawford Rae INSISTED he was a director), he chose to become a director in July.

Anyone who believes he's only here in an advisory capacity has probably already hung up this year's stocking!

Firstly and foremost-Rae takes advice from neither man nor beast. I DEFY any poster to provide evidence to the contrary!

Secondly, Donald's career has been hallmarked by rarely paralleled success at the cutting edge of a cut throat business market.

Anyone who thinks that the ongoing shambles that is GMFC is in any small measure down to taking advice from AD, is plainly deluded.

The only advice I reckon he's given is to his buddy Crawford, and to the effect that they might as well get a share issue going and upgrade the stadium until Fr Rae stops asking 'funny money'!

I imagine AD's quite happy to see the asking price drop as the daft old fud digs himself deeper with every passing month.

One thing's dead certain. Mr Donald WANTS to be a director, yet he's rarely seen around those days. Whatever his financial interest in our club is-HE DEFINITELY HAS ONE.

To the MJ bashers, the doubters, and the genuinely unable to see things staring them in the face, I remind you of Hugh's Cot!

We must always be vigilant.
mortonjag 2008-09-03 07:44:58
QUOTE(dav @ Sep 3 2008, 01:20 AM) [snapback]506711[/snapback]
He was a scapegoat after the defeat at Dundee. Didnt really get a chance to shine in my book - another victim of Irons panic approach to management , did well in the first couple of games against Clyde and St Johnstone and the lower division cup games and then dropped after one performance against Livingston where we were light years behind as a team and he was the only fall guy, that would have frustrated me and you if it had happened to us. Came on at Hibs and did a job (and we got the 2 goals after his arrival on the pitch, looked to enjoy that win as much as anyone else, so to say he wasnt interested is a tad harsh....Given the reaction to Weatherson showing a little 'passion' on Saturday i'd say you can't win with our support however you react at times!!!

After the shocking performance at Airdrie we will probably take to the field with about 2 players if the same logic towards scapegoats applies at QoS on Saturday...Not long for Irons now you'd have thought if there are another couple of Airdrie performances around the corner..

Not sure how you can make any comment on a lad's circumstances without knowing any facts, its all conjecture. Don't remember seeing him make any complaint about his time here, saw him working out in the gym a couple of times and he seemed pleasant enough and always seemed to acknowledge the support (which is far more than some). I guess sometimes things just don't work out, ....Who knows he may be back, as at the moment i don't know where the goals (Russell aside possibly will come from). We create so little though , Pele would struggle up front for us at times.

Easy to surmise what has happened but as always with the Ton i expect there is far more to things than meet the eye, some of the comments coming out of the club at times are bizarre to say the least.

Keep this up Dav, and I'll be able to retire! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-03 07:58:37
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 2 2008, 11:03 PM) [snapback]506657[/snapback]
They may have turned out that way but they certainly were not as you describe at the start of the season!

Our players are not as bad as Saturday suggests and, until Saturday when we have lost it has only been narrowly. As David Irons points out, they are also the same players who scored 4 away to Hibs.

Its a question of which team turns up on a regular basis. If its last Saturday's team we might as well all go home now. In reality we will generally play better - I'm just worried that the level of average performance to stay in this league might be better than our average performance.

I believe that Saturday's performance had a lot to do with an underrated Airdrie side.

What is worrying is evidence of possible unhappiness in the dressing room- with Newby off, and rumours flying about yesterday that others ain't too chuffed right now.

It looks to me as though Rae is being as impatient with Irons as he was inexplicably patient with his puppet, and the pressure's simply going right down the line.

Davie Irons is a bright lad. Hopefully he'll get it sorted.
mortonjag 2008-09-03 08:03:56
QUOTE(Gordon Ottershaw @ Sep 3 2008, 07:56 AM) [snapback]506726[/snapback]
I believe most supporters fall into the category of what Nixon called the "silent majority" who do not have extreme opinions on 90+% of issues regarding the club. This maybe because most people are modest enough to acknowledge they are not experts on everything gmfc and to pretend otherwise is arrogant or downright sh*t stirring.

The comments posted on the board are not a 100% reflection of the suport as a whole rather those who could be bothered to reply to what has become an increasingly negative website where extreme and -ve opinions will always be the most prevalent topics because this is our nature as supporters.

....indeed, and the massive increase in gates at Cappielow proves that the majority of fans are thinking positively for which I wholly commend them, as I do you for such an incisive analysis of our massage board. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-03 08:40:38
QUOTE(dazed @ Sep 3 2008, 08:01 AM) [snapback]506729[/snapback]
No you wont, we need a dog to kick on this forum wink.gif biggrin.gif

I had noticed that the kicking becomes more violent when the Ton have done badly. Do you think that is a coincidence!

QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 3 2008, 08:05 AM) [snapback]506735[/snapback]
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I thought Spotty is a dog ?

Who eats raw meat.

If you see him at Cappielow, perhaps you could buy him a pie - he may discover it tastes better than raw meat.

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Give me a blue fillet steak to a Cappielow pie any day!
mortonjag 2008-09-03 08:45:07
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 3 2008, 08:38 AM) [snapback]506744[/snapback]
I once read a Martin Amis article about the Iraq war and was left thinking so succinct, such beautiful prose, so completely unsure if he is for or against the war.
MJ’s exactly the same. His criticism of Rae is so vague and veiled that there is no other conclusion to come to other than Mortonjag is Douglas Rae.

I conclude that that is your opinion Mr McArthur-indeed, I don't conclude that at all. I conclude that occasionally your wit is lost on yourself! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-03 08:59:00
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 3 2008, 08:32 AM) [snapback]506741[/snapback]
I have absolutely nothing against Puggs having never met him. He and Willowman and one other I can't remember were posting really offensive material and I reported it. No problem. It's called self-policing and if/when I post something as offensive I hope someone reports me.


It is most certainly NOT called self policing.

The most effective method of self policing is persuading somebody who has offended you to retract what's been said. Alternatively you may ridicule what is said and make him look silly. Occasionally an intelligent two way argument may develop and 'common ground' may be reached.

On a pubic massage board 'self policing' normally finds many posters doing exactly those things simultaneously, where something is offensive to the majority. It's sensible and effective, and doesn't rely on a judgement from a harassed Mod who may simply bend to pressure from an irate poster.

What you actually did was to get on your hobby horse and clype to the Mods, Davie, and if I may say so, you came over as pretty self satisfied and 'holier than thou'. Leave that stuff to Mortonjag, and Professor Piehole. It doesn't become a man of your stature.

The fact that I agreed in the main with your 'take' is neither here nor there.

mortonjag 2008-09-03 09:23:34
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 3 2008, 09:07 AM) [snapback]506759[/snapback]
Not at all. A bunch of folk thought it was "funny" to make jokes about kids being sexually assaulted and tortured and I thought a line had to be drawn. There is absolutely no point in engaging in conversation or banter with someone who thinks Paul Gadd is some kind of pantomime villian and sometimes being collared is the only langauge people understand. In fact Willowman or Puggs didn't even understand they were being 'told off'.
I made myself a wee rule when I started posting on here and that was to post under my own name and never say anything that I wouldn't say to someone straight in the face. So if anyone ever has a problem with what I post they can talk to me personally about it. Some others might want to take that on board. I am not ashamed I used the clype button and if a similar thread was started would do so again.

I fully understand what you did and why you did it. I haven't said you were wrong.

I was merely surprised that you felt unable to deal with it by yourself.

Maybe I should clype more. It would certainly save me a helluvalotta grief! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-03 09:36:15 3 members are celebrating their birthday today
lazy_ar*e_student(26), Honor Todd(69), Tooth & Nail(27)

Is there any other kind of student?

I love the thought of ladies and 69

Hope T & N's cake is filling!

Enjoy!
mortonjag 2008-09-03 09:43:34
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Sep 3 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]506753[/snapback]
One shocking defeat and some poor results 5 games into the season and it's Davie Irons' fault. How many more managers are going to foot the blame for what seems to be wrong at Cappielow. I don't believe that Cowboy was that bad a manager nor McInally nor Irons. Yes they have all made mistakes in some individual games along the line but haven't all managers?

I can't put my finger on it as I'm not party to what goes on in the boardroom at Cappielow but it seems that there is something wrong to the extent that I would call it institutional failing. Managers and players have come and gone however the only common denominator is our esteemed Chairman and the same problems exist - no direction on the park, a perceived lack of effort and a distance between the club and the fans. Perhaps I'm overly cynical and hold our managers past and current in too high a regard and it's simply a case of Rae picks bad managers to run the team? Either way the club needs to find direction and a degree of ambition otherwise we will soon find ourselves back in the second.

Well I could say 'I've been telling everybody this for the last three years and they wouldn't listen'-gosh I just have.

Oh dear ratarse-prepare to meet thy doom! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Mind you JM was a Muppet!
mortonjag 2008-09-03 10:11:45
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 3 2008, 09:40 AM) [snapback]506768[/snapback]
is that what he told you?
i can't speak for others, but i took the comment at face value, and thus far, there is indeed no evidence to the contrary. mind you, that was some months ago biggrin.gif

depends what you mean by 'become': AD signed a form 288a on 2 July 08, but presumably decided to 'become' a director rather earlier.
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When are you taking over Alistair?
mortonjag 2008-09-03 10:14:50
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Sep 3 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]506780[/snapback]
Maybe there's the distinct possibilty that you made it up blink.gif

Undoubtedly there's the definite probability that he didn't. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-03 11:06:16
QUOTE(Trust Member @ Sep 3 2008, 10:19 AM) [snapback]506784[/snapback]
You seem to know the man quite well MJ. Can you give us a synopsis of his CV please.
It's just that I heard it expressed somewhat differently recently.





No, and since I've answered your question, WHAT did your hear and from whom?

I think he is a director because he meets one of the 3 criteria for a Morton Director.
1. Member of Rae family
2. Long term family friend or associate of DDFR.
3. Trust Rep




What a ridiculous statement!
Absolutely correct. Never again must we be caught unready.
Wonder if that's why the Trust wanted so much to get a rep on the board?? smile.gif

What a pity it chose a 'wise monkey' instead.
mortonjag 2008-09-03 11:28:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 3 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]506758[/snapback]
Gidday Davie,

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Not great for a lad your age.

I thought you only turned 40 a few months ago.

MJ could give you some advice on longevity.



although my breasts are bigger than most ladies I know




With breasts larger than women he's a goner from obesity before we're relegated!

Especially if they are really big women!

Let's see- the average female weight at 40 is 66Kg so each of McArthur's massive tits weighs over five stones. I reckon that puts him in the 75 stones category.

Sorry stuff indeed.

mortonjag 2008-09-03 11:42:12
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 3 2008, 11:31 AM) [snapback]506804[/snapback]
The Huntsman is my favourite spider.

Their look is far worse than their bite.

These large spiders move very quickly.

They often shock people who are not from Australia, as Australia has a reputation for dangerous creatures. Due to their size and speed, they do manage to intimidate a lot of people.

I once heard an Australian comedian mention his fear of spiders, he mentioned that he knows the Huntsman spiders are not dangerous, but how could we not be scared of them when they have been given the name Hunts... Man....!.

However, these spiders are pretty harmless.

The spiders can measure up to 15 cms wide from leg to leg. They have a flat body, which is useful for them to crawl underneath bark and other such hiding places.

They can bite you, and if they do, it will be painful and swelling may occur.

A cold pack may relieve the symptoms, but if pain persists please see Mortonjag.

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Who frequently has to deal with creeps and crawlers!
mortonjag 2008-09-03 11:51:23
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Sep 3 2008, 10:43 AM) [snapback]506791[/snapback]
No comment form MJ I see. I guess he's waiting until Murray gets beat in the quarters or semis so he can come on and call it another underachievement.

Is that brat playing again? I can't be arsed with tennis or brats.
mortonjag 2008-09-03 11:55:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 3 2008, 11:36 AM) [snapback]506807[/snapback]
Bloody hell, MJ.

I posted that you could give Davie some advice on longevity.

Not that he would kick the bucket this season.

Please be your usual constructive self.

DDFR needs Davie alive, so that he can bring a wee pal.

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He has pals?
mortonjag 2008-09-03 11:58:46
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 3 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]506788[/snapback]
Now that is sick. Those spaghetti hoops gie me the heeby-jeebies!

Not as much as the blue and white ones this weather.
mortonjag 2008-09-03 12:06:09
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Sep 3 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]506778[/snapback]
To the MJ bashers, the doubters, and the genuinely unable to see things staring them in the face, I remind you of Hugh's Cot!

I believe some head case poster may have brought something up about this 3 month 6 days and 14 minutes ago, if I remember clearly it was a FACT Huge Scott has had re-constructive facial surgery and changed his name to you guessed it A.D. As you say it was staring them in the face the whole time.
Forever vigilant.....the truth is out there
disclaimer- A.D does not stand for Alister Donald it may be Anne Diamond, Angie Dickenson or Angus Dayton it is not known that the surgery is indeed fact but I'm sure most would agree that it would have been a wise move.


Anno Domini would be the commonest usage I'd guess, though I believe she's not had re-constructive surgery, remembers the post about AD punting in 40% and awaits urgent tonsillectomy.
mortonjag 2008-09-03 12:09:39
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Sep 3 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]506824[/snapback]
Might be an idea not to start threads on them then

Lots of posters start threads about things they don't like.

Shall I start one about you? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-03 12:17:47
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 3 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]506827[/snapback]

He chose a real bummer for one of those rare visits-well seen the OF game was on Sunday! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-03 12:26:52
QUOTE(cmonaton @ Sep 3 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]506829[/snapback]
and the 2 that are there now will soon be casgated as such if we don't start to climb this league soon.

I agree. Derek Collins has been around the Rae presence for many years. I don't think he and DI went into it like lambs to the slaughter, but they weren't getting paid and the p45's were looming.

The story (rarely contradicted) is that they were given full control of 'a budget'. Whether part of that went to increased wages and longer contracts for existing players is unclear, but DI said from the off he'd put together a small squad of quality players.

If indeed Mr Rae has kept his nose out for the first time since he became Manager Chairman, the buck must stop at David Irons.

I believe he is entirely worthy of castigation for Saturday's debacle, just as he was praised abundantly for the victory over Hibs.

I'm still hopeful he's going to pull a rabbit out of the hat! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-03 12:40:57
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 3 2008, 12:29 PM) [snapback]506836[/snapback]
wot could have been.

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http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/displa...2438474.0.0.php
IAN McCALL today revealed Partick Thistle are set to land a £100,000-plus windfall after the BBC decided to televise Jags' Co-operative Cup third-round clash with Rangers.

Firhill is sure to be a sell-out on Wednesday, September 24 as Gers visit for the second season on the bounce after last term's Scottish Cup quarter-final replay.

And McCall admitted that the extra finance he hopes to be handed from the TV showdown could make all the difference to Jags' promotion bid.

We just HAVE to beat Caley. We've had zilch from cup runs-surely the tide has turned!
mortonjag 2008-09-03 13:19:59
QUOTE(cmonaton @ Sep 3 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]506850[/snapback]
aye it will have to be some size of hat.it's glaringly obvious that we don't have any real quality in the team [been this way for a long time] and that we aren't about to get any either.the so called quality was supposed to come from ex greetna s***e.that hasn't happened either,they have been s***e since the day the joined us,my beleif is that it will stay that way until they go.people on here seem to think that we will start to pick up soon.there is not a shred of evidence of that happening.ok we beat the hibees.on the sat we should have just as motivated as Airdrie were.instead we went ten steps backwards.the defence is awful just as is the rest of the team.to be honest the panic button should be pushed right now,because i really don't see us getting out of this mess.never mind the bloody cups,lets get it together and try and sort out the league form.rant over.

Trouble is we seem lumbered with what we've got plus any loan signings.
mortonjag 2008-09-03 13:39:24
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Sep 3 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]506853[/snapback]
I'm quite content to let others make their minds up about the 2 of you and your symbiotic relationship on this issue.

As for rubbishing genuine interest you couldn't be further from the truth. My problem is the way that you chose to dress up your genuine speculation as actual fact.



[quote name='Barbarossa' date='Sep 3 2008, 12:50 PM' post='506849']
For what it is worth MJ's version of events is very close to information I recieved regarding the ongoing AD situation and the questions he has posed are entirely relevant in the current climate.


I don't know why you have any problem with my stimulating interest TaunTon. I categorically NEVER indulge in idle speculation, and have repeatedly stated that I have several reliable contacts.

Furthermore, I categorically NEVER PRESENT speculation as fact.

It's nice to occasionally hear somebody like Barbarossa giving me some credit.

Just bear in mind I predicted what would happen with Mileson, McInally, AND RAE, ages before the majority, and took reams of sometimes OTT abuse for daring to rock the boat on all three counts.

It's obvious to anybody with a couple of neurones to rub together that AD has designs on Greenock Morton.

I've just presented THAT as a fact.

Maybe it's time for some fools to stop pursuing their viperous anti-jag agendas and concentrate on what's really happening.
mortonjag 2008-09-03 13:52:33
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 3 2008, 01:27 PM) [snapback]506868[/snapback]
I posted Russell Steele's report in which there was no mention of Alistair Donald taking up shares.

My point is only that there has never been any report announcing that Alistair Donald would be taking up shares or intended to take up shares.

That is not to say he doesn't intend to or hasn't said to others privately that he would like to.

I was referring to the original Tilly report by Chris Fitzgerald, which unusually, appears to be missing from your ever excellent blog.

I don't contend what you say above.

I just happened to clue into his original comment about not getting involved financially 'AT THIS STAGE'.
mortonjag 2008-09-03 13:57:37
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 3 2008, 01:36 PM) [snapback]506872[/snapback]
As more managers come in I am coming to the conclusion that the part of your post highlighted is correct.

The only reason Douglas Rae gets to choose the manager is because he has enough money to own the club it's not down to his football knowledge.

I crucified Toby for suggesting it at the time but I now think he was right - one of the main reasons Davie Irons got the job ahead of Jim Duffy is because Rae knew Duffy wouldn't have put up with any of his nonsense.

That suggests that you believe he's been meddling again.

QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 3 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]506875[/snapback]
or Mr AD ph34r.gif

That would indeed be a big hat-Ghostie! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-03 14:08:59
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Sep 3 2008, 12:30 PM) [snapback]506837[/snapback]
Newton, what is it that mortonjag has done constructively for the club ? compared to his personal attacks on dougie rae. Having the most posts on a forum hasn't really changed anything has it now. So now we all know that the stuff about allister donald and his form filling problems, but what has changed ? nothing.

I am a retired GP-not a bloody magician.

I sense that you object to my criticism of the chairman, though I can assure you I've never attacked him personally.

Are you acquainted with the term 'catalyst'?
mortonjag 2008-09-03 14:15:44
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 3 2008, 12:56 PM) [snapback]506855[/snapback]
Seeing mortonjag as the most recent poster in the top 5 threads.

You must be exceedingly timid, Piehole, if you haven't yet adjusted!

QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 3 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]506862[/snapback]
Did you find the cholesterol guilty or not guilty ?

Yes.
mortonjag 2008-09-03 14:21:16
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 3 2008, 02:09 PM) [snapback]506887[/snapback]
I'm with you there, I don't think I could stomach the thought of Duffy at Cappielow.

Is that because you think he'd be a failure as a manager?
mortonjag 2008-09-03 14:27:28 Livingston rejected transfer deadline day offers for Murray Davidson, Leigh Griffiths and captain James McPake.
mortonjag 2008-09-03 14:33:20
QUOTE(dazed @ Sep 3 2008, 02:27 PM) [snapback]506892[/snapback]
I hate rats, snakes and chalk squeeking on a blackboard.

I thought snakes hissed!
mortonjag 2008-09-03 14:49:50
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 3 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]506893[/snapback]
Oh come on. That's taking self-obsession to a whole new level. I don't have an anti-Jag agenda and I'm sure 99.99999% of the poster on here don't, sometimes I agree with you and sometimes I disagree with you, it's called being a grown up.

With regards to Mileson, a kid doing 'o' level business studies could have told you that wouldn't work long term. It's all about the balance sheet at the end of the day. I deal with businesses from small to multi-million turnover everyday of my life and I knew when Gr£tna came into the league that it was only a matter of when they would go under no matter what league or cup or European success they had

I don't know/care about the 'insider' info you may/may not have but the conceipt on here, not just from yourself, is sometimes staggering, 'I ken something youse dinnae'. It's really boring. Time for all of you in that camp to either put up or shut up.

Did you intend the highlighted text to be so ironic following your shameless self promotion in bold type.

McArthur-not for the first time you are talking absolute mince, if you're suggesting that more that two or three posters predicted the Gretna outcome from day one. I was repeatedly accused of jealousy, personal vendettas, and ignorance-more often than once (for example) by Alibi.

I was treated in exactly the same way in the early days of calling JM in question-folk don't like shaken out of complacency.

As to our good Chairman, the torrent of personal abuse was relentless every time I mentioned his name a year or so back. One of the funniest recurring accusations was of 'disrespect'. How can I respect somebody whose ego is ruining our club.

Anyway-I'll just put your post down to another example of jag bashing/ego polishing. smile.gif

Oh-and one final point-unlike you McArthur, Mortonjag is FAR from conceited. Mortonjag is the epitome of humility.
mortonjag 2008-09-03 15:36:15
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 3 2008, 02:54 PM) [snapback]506908[/snapback]
Maybe the guys I go to the games with are of an equal intellect to you then because, to a man, we all predicted the Gr£tna outcome AND none of us thought McInally was a good appointment AND none of us particularly care for yourself Douglas. Jesus, I'm so much cleverer than I thought.

And you all kept it to your clever little selves, presumably because you didn't think it mattered! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 3 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]506913[/snapback]
Chris Fitzgerald is missing ohmy.gif
Why Davie because you said so.
public board, entirely up to the individual what and how much they may want to divulge. I have been busy and I have now had 3 seperate people today confirming the same story by phone to me and none of them are connected with one another. Their oonly connection is with their love of Morton and wanting that future to be assured.

I'm sure you will know soon enough.
FAO MJ, You asked pertinent questions and even if you get under many peoples skin the questions still need answered, not brushed under the carpet. Your best attribute is that no matter the abuse (and some of it is brought upon yourself) you continue to probe for answers. I have and will never have a problem with anyone who wants answers to what should be very simple questions.

smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-03 16:27:19
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 3 2008, 03:54 PM) [snapback]506931[/snapback]
100% agree. It's all a little bit boring and attention seeking in my mind from the guys who have insider knowledge but can never reveal!

To whom in particular do you refer?

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 3 2008, 04:03 PM) [snapback]506932[/snapback]
For a start none of the guys I attend games with post on here and secondly as you can see from my post count I don't feel the need to put my every single waking thought on here.

As far as it mattering, couldn't give a f*** if Gretna go out of business or not. Like I said, I deal with business and some do well and some go bust. It's no different because the business involves 22 grown men chasing a ball around a park.

OK-to take your last point firstly, may I humbly suggest that since you couldn't give a f*ck about Morton, you would do well to stop criticising those who do.

NOW-that bit about your posts.

I notice that the ratio of unashamed promotions of a little known cannibal rodent band to posts of any general interest or substance is rather high.

Could that be taking self obsession to a whole new level? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-03 16:39:06 There is only one post so far which makes any sense whatsoever.

Sturgeon hasn't a bloody clue, and this is further vote catching nonsense.

It's NOT about improving patient care-just about saving face and a few bob for selfish b*stards who will still squeal like stuck pigs when they don't get what they want off Sugar Daddy NHS-PRONTO.

I'd slam any government for such short sighted waste of potential income for a cash strapped public service.

When the Government Minister in question is a daft wee lassie who has already ignored learned advice on more than one occasion it's ten times worse.


AND she still needs a bloody shave. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-03 16:49:55
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 3 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]506944[/snapback]
Maybe but I prefer to call it promotion and we are most definitely not a one-man-band. rolleyes.gif

For the record, I would also like to see change at Cappielow. All I am saying is that I simply don't believe you or the other guy know anything of any substance. If you did you wouldn't be hiding behind an alias or are you scared of the Raes?

Now you are being a complete arse McArthur. I AM Douglas Rae-remember, and the other guy is my son Jaycee.

Call it promotion if you will- it was boringly repetitive advertising to the point of beggary-indeed I became so sorry for you that I gave you the benefit of one of my excellent posts on the day of your last gig.

All I got in return was ongoing abuse. Sometimes I could weep.
mortonjag 2008-09-03 16:56:55
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Sep 3 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]506961[/snapback]
SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A STRIKER

you meant:


SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A STRIKER
laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-03 17:00:59
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Sep 3 2008, 04:18 PM) [snapback]506937[/snapback]
........and there probably isn't. These are the kind of discussions that take place when a contract is being discussed and in spite of all that has been said and written about Douglas Rae (or maybe because of much of the truth said and written) , if he'd wanted Duffy he'd have pulled out all the stops to get him! Nothing coming out of Cappielow suggested it ever got near to contractual discussions; indeed I seem to remember that with the understandable haste even the contract details of Davie Irons and Derek Collins weren't sorted out until some time after.

Remember when JM said he wanted Paul McGowan but that he wouldn't pay more than £50K and then Mr Rae who also obviously wanted him put in a bid of £100K.

After the managerial saga was over Mr Rae said that he had got who he wanted. In that I believe him.

He also claimed they would be 'with us for a long time to come'!
mortonjag 2008-09-03 17:03:39
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Sep 3 2008, 04:58 PM) [snapback]506969[/snapback]
ph34r.gif

copyright Monkey Inc. 2005
mortonjag 2008-09-03 17:06:03
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 3 2008, 04:42 PM) [snapback]506949[/snapback]
Ha you lie. Elsewhere Boozie has correctly stated that I have a fine head of hair.

But I'll cop a plea on old an Tory.

My granny had a head of fine hair too Mr Bam.
mortonjag 2008-09-03 18:14:12
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 3 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]506913[/snapback]
Chris Fitzgerald is missing ohmy.gif
Why Davie because you said so.
public board, entirely up to the individual what and how much they may want to divulge. I have been busy and I have now had 3 seperate people today confirming the same story by phone to me and none of them are connected with one another. Their oonly connection is with their love of Morton and wanting that future to be assured.

I'm sure you will know soon enough.
FAO MJ, You asked pertinent questions and even if you get under many peoples skin the questions still need answered, not brushed under the carpet. Your best attribute is that no matter the abuse (and some of it is brought upon yourself) you continue to probe for answers. I have and will never have a problem with anyone who wants answers to what should be very simple questions.

TY, and pertinent questions are best not ignored-at least I've always found that if they're addressed they don't come back to haunt you!
mortonjag 2008-09-03 18:23:28
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Sep 3 2008, 05:33 PM) [snapback]506992[/snapback]
Well said those men.

I have given up posting on this site, despite being a morton fan all my life , season ticket holder, away game attendee etc etc. because of the negativity, venomous bile and pretentious drivel posted by the incessant jabbering few.

Somebody posting for you?
mortonjag 2008-09-03 18:27:46
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 3 2008, 05:32 PM) [snapback]506991[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Another day, another attack......etc rolleyes.gif

God bless Alex and Nicola for standing up for Scotland

How can Bawheid bless himself-oh wait-is that what that mad goalie does?

QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 3 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]507011[/snapback]
Not when it comes to this s***e local income tax Salmond wants to bring in dry.gif

Business is up in arms about it-Soapy will be none too pleased I'd guess.
mortonjag 2008-09-03 18:32:23
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 3 2008, 06:13 PM) [snapback]507015[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif

I was there and it definitely wasn't James Grady . New source required

It was Chrissiboi-our forum unknown quantity!
mortonjag 2008-09-03 19:00:44
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 3 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]507040[/snapback]
laugh.gif
i admit i had to look it up rolleyes.gif

ok, so what constructive actions has mortonjag catalysed (for the club)?

and why is this thread in general nonsense, rather than being pinned on the front page? mad.gif

Because my darling--- NewTon posted it on the front page and somebody thought-wrong forum.

Remember that happened to a question I asked of the Trust of your goodself Alistair!!!


Oh and your catalyst question-why in particular did you ask that?
mortonjag 2008-09-03 19:03:45
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Sep 3 2008, 06:59 PM) [snapback]507055[/snapback]
there is a company in Unit 2, Lynedoch Industrial Estate, Inverclyde Tool Hire, but im sure they do servicing and repairs as well, no harm giving them a ring 784455

That may be where Mr Rae got some of his staff.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 08:03:22
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Sep 3 2008, 09:23 PM) [snapback]507136[/snapback]
I can just see the meeting between little Kev and the Toon board.

"F''k this, I'm off to Morton". huh.gif



BTW I would not have him at Scapa.

Why not?
mortonjag 2008-09-04 08:05:40
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 3 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]507160[/snapback]
Anyone who enjoys black pudding too much, and only comes out at night, don't take Buffy up on her offer. Especially as there is a full moon on the 27th September.

Too much at stake I reckon.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 08:09:19
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Sep 3 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]507127[/snapback]
Cowboy woulds not allow the players to go out once in a while - apparently there was a "no drinking" policy. This was wrong - players need to unwind every so often.
At the same time as we were leaking goals and struggling to score the Airdire players were out on midweek benders at casinos and such - this didn't harm their title challenge one bit.

Hell, even Hugh Sh!t took the team paintballing in the week leading up to a crucial game at Raith (which we won IIRC).

I agree. All work and no play, and Davie Irons seems to have fallen right into the same trap.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 08:23:52
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 3 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]507168[/snapback]
Oh No? I'm sure the VAST MAJORITY of Morton supporters would disagree - IMO! laugh.gif


What a silly comment. How SURE are you-have you ANY shadow of doubt?
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 4 2008, 08:06 AM) [snapback]507220[/snapback]
Quite bizarre how you complain about being picked on then feel perfectly happy about calling me an arse. I think the term passive-aggressive was coined for you.
It's a good job I'm a big boy and can take it. laugh.gif


Listen to me guitar man, I called you an arse because you ARE an arse.

That, and because you accused me of 'hiding behind an alibi'.

That was either tongue in cheek, or you sure don't have a clue!

I could write you a wee choon for that poosyphobic cacophony you front-a choon about hiding behind an alibi.


It would contain the couplet:

I often ask me-who am I
I've lived so long in alibi

signed


Yours Aye Mortonrae
mortonjag 2008-09-04 08:35:33
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 3 2008, 07:57 PM) [snapback]507092[/snapback]
I don't doubt it VT . We had a guy on today Evander Sno lookalike lasted about 10 minutes in the second half .

It is patently obvious we are short of quality and this small squad thing is a nonsense , we are obviously going to wait and see what shape we are in on January before we decide to act .


....is smaller than it was on Saturday! ph34r.gif

mortonjag 2008-09-04 08:47:54




QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 3 2008, 10:43 PM) [snapback]507173[/snapback]
That seems like a good record to me - he must have been a better player than i thought! blush.gif

Templeman is a one off.

Used properly he could be an asset to any first division side, and CERTAINLY to ours as things stand.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 08:55:00
QUOTE(Toby @ Sep 3 2008, 11:25 PM) [snapback]507198[/snapback]
Another one of your pointless digs at the TTG mob. Incidentally, I see you've not replied to my points on the other thread, having previously dug me about not getting round to replying to you.

As for castigating a manager not helping, it did eventually with the previous incumbant smile.gif.

If you finally do get round to addressing this you'll be waiting on your reply, in Macedonia for a few days.

Toby-talking of JM made me wonder if you ever got to the bottom of that incident at Stenhousemuir.

Remember -when the Steward said he'd received instructions from the Morton Official, and Gillian Donaldson appeared to hush everything up?
mortonjag 2008-09-04 09:01:32
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 4 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]507228[/snapback]
was that another marble? laugh.gif

Pill time Alistair! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-04 09:23:55
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 3 2008, 08:16 PM) [snapback]507096[/snapback]
"I have no doubt Scotland will judge harshly any MSP who votes to keep the council tax in the face of the overwhelming benefit that would flow to millions of Scots"

Alex Salmond rolleyes.gif

....keeps the council tax in the face of...aye very good Bawheid! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 3 2008, 10:21 PM) [snapback]507164[/snapback]
Actually, business is NOT up in arms about it. Certain business people, like Iain McMillan of the CBI, who is a member of the Calman commission, are against it primarily because they want any opportunity to attack the SNP. The FSB has come out against it but they didn't ask their members what they thought - I know that because I am an FSB member and I complained about the lack of consultation.

The truth is that even the poll tax was more equitable than the current council tax; LIT is a lot fairer than either in that it's variable according to income. Now, personally I would ensure that that includes all income, including dividends, and as you have to put those down on your tax return I can't see why they wouldn't be included, but even though it will probably cost me more overall, I support LIT as a better system and because it's a lot fairer, I consider that better than we property-owners being mugged while many others pay nothing and have greater disposable income as a result.

MJ, the NHS is not a business and people don't choose to be ill - well, not most people - and to mug them while they are in distress is just plain wrong. Well done, Nicola.



Listen to you-a highly intelligent man who completely loses all perspective when it comes to your beloved SNP.

BUSINESS IS up in arms-FACT-did I specify which business? Did I say they are correct?

Now don't start talking complete bollocks about people who are ill being disadvantaged by car park charges. That is SO far from the real truth that I can't believe you didn't deliberately compromise your integrity in an attempt to score cheap political points.

MUG THEM WHILE THEY ARE IN DISTRESS INDEED laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


In today's Herald there's a bit about the Auditors report for this NON-BUSINESS NHS you talk about.

They plan to chuck patients out on the day of their operations to save a paltry 8 million a year. The ACTUAL effect will be an INCREASED cost as any doctor or nurse will explain to you, but doctors and nurses don't count. The NHS sure is a business-a politically run business where spin and lies and greed and self protection MUG the vulnerable day and daily.

The NHS needs every penny it can get from any resource it has. Not charging for parking is simply a political expedient for a Health Minister who is about as close to the coal face as the bloody moon, to which she is clearly tuned. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-04 09:31:32
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 3 2008, 07:18 PM) [snapback]507067[/snapback]
whooosh biggrin.gif
why, to see if you could answer it of course smile.gif



QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 3 2008, 07:45 PM) [snapback]507082[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif
Quality

Looks like the Mods thought not-unsurprised that you did.

QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 3 2008, 07:48 PM) [snapback]507084[/snapback]
Moronjag doesn't listen to anyone, you can try to shout him down but it's pointless.... just like him ! dry.gif

That's possibly the wittiest thing you've ever said and it's not in the slightest funny.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 10:19:16
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 4 2008, 09:23 AM) [snapback]507233[/snapback]
alibijag seems to be suffering from a further attack of 'litosis' smile.gif

all these als, it must be very confusing for him/her
al is actually an abbreviation for alii, plural of alius. (alias is a different word)

'Et allii' is acceptable Alistair-now take your pill-the green and yellow one for a Thursday remember.

Did you actually study Latin, or do you just witter in a w*nk stained toga?

I prefer et alia. It is entirely appropriate.

et alia (abr. et al)
One entry found.

et alia



Etymology:
Latin


: and others


Mortonjag does not make mistakes! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-04 10:29:38
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 4 2008, 10:14 AM) [snapback]507252[/snapback]
No, I'm accusing you and the other guy of either not knowing anything or being too feart to publish what you know. SImple. Just like you. rolleyes.gif

I am indeed simple McArthur. Simple to the point of being embarrassingly brilliant at focussing on any task in hand. I play guitar passably, too.

My only fear about publishing what I know has been that the time was not ripe!

Just leave the simple things to people who simply know exactly what they're doing.

QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 4 2008, 10:20 AM) [snapback]507255[/snapback]
MJ, publish and be damned.

smile.gif smile.gif

"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." ... George Orwell

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

Very tempted Newt-maybe not quite the moment! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-04 10:43:43
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 4 2008, 09:33 AM) [snapback]507236[/snapback]
Jim Duffy as Morton manager.....you having a laugh!

His managerial record is bordering on comical. Jim Duffy and the other football experts in the media are also rans who couldn't get a job managing a Subway store. I remember Murdo MacLeod on Radio Scotland last season when the possibility of him being a candidate for St Johnstone, i think it was, came up and Murdo said "once you have managed at the level I have, I would only accept a management job at the very highest level in Scotland". When further probed if this meant a job lie Killie or St Mirren he basically said he was above that level......the man is clearly disillusioned! And I don't think it comes down to how much he's on at BBC btw.

Duffy & Macleod are the Scottish version of Peter Reid and Steve McLaren but only worse as they can't even get a job!

That sort of impassioned character assassination always hints of a personal grudge.

I don't have a personal grudge against Mr Rae BTW (added as that's the usual counter attack).

Maybe, of course, it's just your strongly held view.

I find it difficult in the extreme to imagine that Jim Duffy, Murdo MacLeod, or even Mickey Mouse, couldn't do at least as well in the League as the current Manager has done so far.

mortonjag 2008-09-04 11:05:57
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 4 2008, 10:36 AM) [snapback]507271[/snapback]
The man they paraded before the cameras, Iain McMillan, is a member of the Calman Commission, Enough said?

My sister in law recently received a kidney transplant after about 5 years of dialysis three times a week at Edinburgh RI. Taking her there and collecting her involved parking in a pay car park. Can you imagine the amount spent over 5 years? Like I say, charging people who have no choice in the matter. IMHO that's not the way the NHS should work. The issue of stopping people using the service when they don't really need it is really one for the clinical judgement of doctors, who should tell patients where to go if they are simply malingering. I appreciate that this is not always easy, but you can't tax people for being sick (which is what these car park charges are in effect) or else you might as well start charging directly for treatment and operations.

Any dialysis patient I've ever known had access to free patient transport service.

My partner's father is currently undergoing treatment at the Beatson. He could currently use a free TAXI service if he wished-FACT.

We choose to drop him off and pick him up at the appropriate dropping off points. We COULD park, but choose not to use valuable space.

Car parks are for PARKING CARS. Patients who are ill are either going to, coming from, or IN hospital. It's not like a bloody airport Alibi!!!

If they want to park their cars so that they can give them a friendly wave every other day-let them pay for the pleasure.

You can argue the rights and wrongs of charging for visitors and staff, but please DON'T join your stupid little girl Health Minister in palpably lying tripe about 'mugging' ill people.


With regard to local income tax, I stated business is none too pleased. That's what I've been hearing. You may well be correct, though I try to see the big picture instead of being sucked into the political spin of any party.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 11:17:03
QUOTE(leyTON @ Sep 4 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]507276[/snapback]
i would rather face a shortfall then charge people to be ill, its a matter of principle
as for people like MJ< they fundamentally dislike the party and nothing this party ever does will impress them, even if they take on their own suggestions. look at labour, they got concessions in the budget but still abstained. AS a consequence, they have OFFICIALLY no opinion on the budget and what it entails, which is pretty much everything

I fundamentally support independence for Scotland.

I instinctively support A Scottish National Party.

I am frustrated by a Government of which I had high hopes. All I seem to see are broken promises, unrealistic vote catching measures, and a perpetuation by Bawheid of anti English paranoia.

I do understand the NHS leyTON, and I DON'T want anything except a better service for patients. Wee Nickerless has so far in my Professional opinion done NOTHING which in real OR FISCAL terms will ultimately benefit patients. Furthermore she has deliberately flown in the face of advice from experts when introducing her people pleasing measures.


Too many people-Alibi included-seem to want the ideal without accepting the cost, and our Health Minister has pandered to that misguided mentality.

I wonder where she will go when she decides on her much needed facial reconstruction. I believe we can safely discount an NHS hospital.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 11:22:22
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 4 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]507268[/snapback]
There's a famous story about Tom Jones meeting Elvis Presley during The Kings infamous drug binges and Elvis tells Tom that the CIA have just made him a drug enforcement officer so Tom says to him 'so you'll have to arrest yourself then?'
Why does this story always come into my head when I think of MJ and Douglas Rae?

Also, how does one type the clucking noises made by chickens? mellow.gif

There are many famous stories McArthur.

There are facts too.

QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 4 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]507272[/snapback]
Gidday Mortonjag,

I could post something.

But, I have no credibility.

Do I ?

However, my network in Inverclyde, Glasgow, North Ayrshire, Gigha and Oban is growing.

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QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Sep 4 2008, 11:12 AM) [snapback]507287[/snapback]
Simple to the point of being embarrassingly brilliant at focussing on any task in hand.

The mask slips Doctor Raymond Babbit

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mortonjag 2008-09-04 11:26:02
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 4 2008, 11:22 AM) [snapback]507293[/snapback]
Thanks for your opinion. You may be right, however I prefer not to make such rash judgements on our management team after only 5 games of the new season.

It's hardly a 'rash' judgement-more of an ongoing assessment and right now DI's record is abysmal.

I've said elsewhere I still believe we'll finish 5th, and that I believe he's bright enough to turn things round, but right now it's PURE KEECH.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 12:21:53
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 4 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]507310[/snapback]
I'm not at all sure - but then I wasn't portaying it as fact....

REALLY!!!

There is a subtle difference between portraying something as fact, and stating that something IS fact, a fact which you understand very well!

Mortonjag NEVER states that anything IS a fact unless it is factual-and that's a fact.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 12:24:38
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Sep 4 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]507291[/snapback]
During that period, I regularly saw Morton players smashed in Word Up on Thursday nights. When I questioned one of them about the state he was in (friendly like, not being a wido) I was informed that "Aye, I'm smashed but not smashed enough hawhawhaw". Not impressed.

Maybe this was due to Cowboy's Le Guen style drinking ban making the players rebel or maybe it's coz the players we had at that time were big headed fandans taking the club for a ride? Who knows.

Possibly a bit of both.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 12:30:57
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 4 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]507300[/snapback]
And you think we would finish higher with Duffy in charge?!?! ha ha

I don't know, and I've never suggested that I thought the appointment of DI/DC was the worst possible.

For what it's worth I'd much rather we'd appointed experience-something I've been saying ever since Rae chose the last Muppet. I've regularly seen streetwise guys get a lot from very little in the last few years, while Morton managers get very little from quite a lot, and the common factor seems to have been experience or the lack thereof.

I have no personal views on Mr Duffy either way, except that he has MUCH more managerial experience than DI.

You DO appear to hold some sort of personal grudge.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 12:34:32
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 4 2008, 12:26 PM) [snapback]507319[/snapback]
My sources have already told me the line up, but I can't disclose it I'm afraid.

Why.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 12:41:08
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 4 2008, 12:32 PM) [snapback]507322[/snapback]
You are.
Listen, I'd love to see things change at Cappielow and have never had any respect for our current regime (you can go back through my posts if you like) but you guys just sound childish. Publish what you have or don't mention it.
I have a 15 inch penis. You'll never see it so won't ever know if I actually have or not.

Listening McArthur-listening with all ears to more emotive crap.

The fact that you think our exercise of judgement and discretion is 'childish' is a statement about your ego-nothing else.

Leave decisions to those with the wisdom and experience to handle confidential information usefully AND respectfully.

Your penis is 14.34 inches long and 9.71 inches wide, a mere inch less broad than your mouth.

I have that on excellent authority, though of course, I'm not at liberty to reveal my source.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 12:50:19
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 4 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]507329[/snapback]
OK. I'm convinced.

Where do I sign?

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On the blank cheque made payable to Monkey Inc.! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-04 12:53:12
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Sep 4 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]507313[/snapback]
I fully believed watching Templeman play for us last season that we could start him in every single league game, never sub him, and he would go the season without scoring. There would maybe be the occasional fluke - like his goal at Hamilton with his shoulder was, but Thomson had other ideas. The guy was just blatantly not good enough for the First Division.

Your opinion!
mortonjag 2008-09-04 12:58:20
QUOTE(cmdc @ Sep 4 2008, 12:49 PM) [snapback]507334[/snapback]
Cowboy had a fair bit of experience, and was no better in the job than McInally, so experience isn't necessarily the common factor. Given that Duffy didn't have Dundee punch above their weight, and had Hibs punching distinctly under it, I'm not sure his was the kind of experience we needed either.

I agree that I'd have liked someone with a reasonably successful track record in and about these leagues (despite his history and the fact he's been away from the game for a long time I probably wouldn't have minded Tommy McLean) but I am also convinced by the argument that Irons and not Alexander was at the head of Gretna's push up the leagues, so I do think he's more experienced than he is given credit for.

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I enjoyed watching the football we played under cowboy. He probably had little experience of a Chairman like Rae.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 13:01:33 Nobody seems to know what formation we played against Hibs.

If we're up for it we can win it!
mortonjag 2008-09-04 13:06:17
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Sep 3 2008, 09:46 PM) [snapback]507149[/snapback]
FFS....didn't condoms exist back then? rolleyes.gif

Condoms do not protect unless they're on tadgers.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 13:08:37
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Sep 4 2008, 11:10 AM) [snapback]507286[/snapback]
Yes, it was in the Telegraph yesterday. He got found guilty. sheriff Herald said it was probably the most disturbing and disgusting case he had witnessed in his time at Greenock.

the victims said that he would soil himself before crawling around the floor wearing just his underpants before saying things like ''I've done it again'' or ''dont tell mummy'' in a childs voice.
This is al very bizarre. I dont understand why the girls stayed in his presence or how he managed to repeat these offences. If someone done that in front of me I wouldnt be hanging around.

I guess its one of those things where only a little part of the story is reported.

Done what?
mortonjag 2008-09-04 13:10:12
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 4 2008, 11:37 AM) [snapback]507301[/snapback]
I know what gets my vote! Pouffe! happy.gif

Judge not, that ye be not judged.

I'm getting a bit worried by his apparent disappearance, mind you.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 13:29:59
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 4 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]507299[/snapback]
Don't be so fecking obtuse, MJ. If you are collecting someone from hospital, you have to park your car. AFAIK, there is no such free bus service or taxi service in Edinburgh and if there is it doesn't appear to be very well advertised!

Clearly you are just so anti-SNP that you are unable to give them credit for ANYTHING they do. you constantly refer to Alex Salmond as "Bawheid", you make disparaging personal remarks about Nicola Sturgeon, and at every opportunity you come on here blaming the SNP for everything from Morton's lack of strikers to the extinction of dinosaurs.

I make no secret of the fact that I am an SNP member, but I don't necessarily agree with all their policies - for one thing, I would separate religion and schools entirely and I could never support the continuation or worse, extension, of so-called faith schools. i am not dogmatically anti-nuclear although I do think that if it is possible to do without nuclear power, then we should try to do so - although I would like to see continuing research into fusion power which I understand would solve the waste problem as there isn't any. I do however agree broadly with the SNP's policies which IMHO encompass a fairly broad spectrum of left to right without going too far to either extreme. I think social democracy just about describes it.

As far as I am concerned, and the vast bulk of the Scottish population appears to agree whatever their own political allegiances, the current government is doing a far better job than their predecessors - hardly surprising when you consider that the previous lot were little better than a puppet regime. Given the limited powers they have, what they are achieving is even more remarkable. Just think what they could do with full powers, i.e. independence. Anyway, we'll find out in a few years' time. At least we agree that independence per se is the best way forward.

In the meantime, MJ, just keep sniping from the sidelines. We all know you really have the hots for Nicola Sturgeon.



That is absolutely incorrect. There are designated dropping off and picking up places at ALL hospitals, and can be used FOR THAT PURPOSE by anybody, provided the passenger is a bona fide patient. The Patient Transport Service (part of the Scottish Ambulance Service) is freely available to all who require regular outpatient treatment, and who are unable /unwilling to arrange private transport.

I make no bones of the fact that I despise little Nickerless's DELIBERATE mishandling of our health service for political expediency, but then Alibi, unlike you, I pretty well despise all politicians of all parties.

...and she is one ugly cow!

QUOTE(leyTON @ Sep 4 2008, 12:09 PM) [snapback]507309[/snapback]
if you think that the IRh maternity services should be removed and the parking charges should be in place on the sick, you are in a minority

There is no such thing as 'parking charges being placed on the sick'.

That is so obviously political spin and I thought guys like you and Alibi would be bright enough to spot it. Could it be that you choose to ignore the truth?

The NHS is skint-something that stupid young woman well knows but daren't admit when she's promising an NHS which will 'meet demand'!


FACT-hospital parking charges instituted across the board could generate enough revenue to save hundreds of lives every year-possibly thousands.

One of those lives could be yours.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 13:33:54
QUOTE(Patg @ Sep 4 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]507331[/snapback]
Scott will reply himself but he informed me months ago that Riordan and his family had been banned from everywere in Einburgh after the court case involving him and his brothers and this is the ban that has suddenly been reported on ...

Scott had Steven Fletcher of Hibs 21 st birthday party in a premise just along the street from his and Riordan was banned from that and people who organised it new this and werent bothered that he wouldnt be there ..

Scott will probably tell you the full story when he reads this and replys ...

Pat G
Ton Till I Die

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mortonjag 2008-09-04 13:37:13
QUOTE(foxy @ Sep 4 2008, 01:15 PM) [snapback]507357[/snapback]
Heard this on the radio this morning. totally shocking & the hotel should issue an apology

It will probably be in Welsh!
mortonjag 2008-09-04 13:41:00
QUOTE(leyTON @ Sep 4 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]507371[/snapback]
I am aware of the political and emotive spin placed on this. However there is something based in fact as visitors etc will have to pay. I know a number of NHS workers who can claim these car parking chargers back when visitign other hospitals so how is this saving the NHS money, when these reclaimed charges are paid for by theNHS

I merely object to the suggestion that car parking charges are 'mugging' the sick.

If car parking is to be used to generate revenue, it should be done fairly across the board.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 13:46:00
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Sep 4 2008, 01:23 PM) [snapback]507362[/snapback]
Looks like a good call. Though, I don't know that much about tennis but it'll take a minor miracle to beat Nadal I would have thought.
Looks like ma Murray will be able to make a bit of money selling those invisible nappies. Not that they'll need for a while it with all the dosh won in the US Open.

Precisely-in it for the money-no National allegiance of any sort, and Mummy Murray just loves basking in her superbrat's 'achievements'.

Frankly if this was mine, I'd be disowning it pronto! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-04 13:54:06
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Sep 4 2008, 01:29 PM) [snapback]507369[/snapback]
Given that we merely have a midfield of plodders, I would love to see Templeman play just slightly behind Wake and Russell, not quite as an attacking midfielder, but a second-striker type thing.

He's being rubbished for not scoring when in fact in his latter spell with us he was supposed to be target man and striker rolled into one. I thought his hold up play and distribution were good, and when he is allowed the freedom he can still score goals.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 14:10:42
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Sep 4 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]507351[/snapback]
I don't have any problem with you stimulating interest MJ, I simply cannot see what you think is to be gained by continually spinning the same story. As you say no-one would be surprised if AD had some thoughts about his future involvement with Morton but he is unlikely to show his hand before he thinks it most advantageous. Simply repeating that we should told what's going on, or what he thinks, or what's the current owners reaction to this, is unlikely to get any reaction from either party. They will dance to their own tune not anyone else's.

I'd be much more interested in your take on whether any future takeover would be good for Morton or if it would be exposing the club to greater risks than we currently have.

Thank you for your Nostredamus like predictions on Mileson. I'd be grateful of your predictions on night following day or Gordon's Brown's chances at the next election. Equally thanks for you insight on McInally. A good number on here had lost faith in McInally in advance of the Peterhead games although it's fair to say it was a fairly small minority. As for Rae there is no shortage of people who have been less than complimentary about his stewardship for a long time although few have felt the need to comment on it at every possible opportunity. In respect of abuse this is an internet message board and anyone with an opinion can expect to be challenged both politely and otherwise - it's no big deal.

Maybe its time for you to cut down on the amount of trite, inane, dull nonsense that hallmarks the vast majority of your posts and concentrate on the quality.

Listen to me TUM TUM- I think I've been too patient and too polite with arseholes. There were VERY, VERY few who dared criticise Rae, JM, and Mileson in the early days, and they took PLENTY OF ABUSE from the very folk who now glibly state that 'It was obvious from day one'.

It's not worth trawling through old posts but there would be plenty of very red faces and mine would not be one of them.

NOW-I'm going to follow Barbarossa here-I'll say exactly what I want, as often as I want, and I won't lose any sleep over it either.

You ARE free to challenge me politely OR OTHERWISE, though I'd prefer you didn't indulge in the type of personal attack which was all too common in those early days.

What is YOUR take on how good or bad Mr Donald might be for our club? Maybe we'd all be in a better position to judge if we had some openness from him and from the club.

WELL?



QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 4 2008, 01:19 PM) [snapback]507359[/snapback]
here here

Aye very good.

'There there' would have been equally inaccurate, or maybe those who can't handle the truth need a big one from their Mummies! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-04 14:20:20
QUOTE(cmdc @ Sep 4 2008, 01:04 PM) [snapback]507348[/snapback]
Up to a point only, surely? The collapse, and the beginning of the following season were every bit as bad as McInally's worst days. In fact, under McInally only Peterhead away was more sickening to me than Stenhousemuir at Cappielow under McCormack...and at least McInally had the excuse that he finished well clear in second place. McCormack's team finished fourth!

Incidentally, I've never met McCormack, but I'm told by someone who has since played for him that he is actually pretty complimentary about Rae as a Chairman.

I don't really care too much if Cowboy was good, bad, or ugly-at least he gave us a feel good factor and some decent football for a while. IMO we NEVER had either under JM, and the fact that Rae wanted to retain his services has far too often been glossed over. He's had long enough to stamp his trade mark on the Third Division, and it seems not much cop!

QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Sep 4 2008, 01:39 PM) [snapback]507377[/snapback]
I think we have to bear in mind that very few club chairmen are popular with supporters or players. A lot of clubs would probably be happy to have a chairman like ours.

However each chairman, whether popular or not, clearly has his own agenda and motive based on the reasons he took on the position in the first place. It's a deviation from their normal business, they've paid a lot of money to put their plan into place. If the chairman's ideas match those of the fans you normally get success, e.g. Dick Donald, the opposite extreme would be H--- S----.

However that shouldn't prevent us from questioning what's happening at our clubs. People are saying there's a pattern of inexperienced managers with the common denominator being our chairman, with similar results. Another pattern that can't be ignored is the number of players we sign who perform well for other clubs and then seem to lose form with Morton. Many also seem to lose heart and their heads seem to go down.

These trends are quite unusual and more so in that they continue over the years no matter what manager is in charge. In many the managers or players start off well then tend to tail off later. One of the mysteries for me though is something that has also been constant throughout the last several years, the inability to put a balanced team on the park, i.e. too many of one position or one type and not enough/none of others. I find it hard to understand why we can't bring in a decent standard of player for each position then build from there.

Another trend has been the lack of young players coming through. Are these points all down to a succession of managers spanning several years or are we right to ask if there is a common denominator?

DOT you are the diplomat supreme! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-04 14:27:19
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 4 2008, 02:19 PM) [snapback]507412[/snapback]
McInally was a gamble, but you cannot tell right away if someone is going to be a failure.....that is a very narrowminded approach. Managers need to start somewhere, Mark Hughes for example was a gamble for Wales, but did very well.

In my opinion Irons has the experience requried....it would be nice of we could all get behind our manager.....after all we are all aiming for the same common goal.

Hear, hear! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-04 14:31:19
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 4 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]507393[/snapback]
It is very honourable of you to stick up for a man in your fellow profession, however ther facts remain his record in 1st division is STINKING!

You're thinking of Dr. Deuchar-the money grabbing ship jumper.

Dr Templeman-I think not! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-04 14:40:20
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Sep 4 2008, 01:53 PM) [snapback]507386[/snapback]
Maybe he's spent the last few days riding a 21 year old with cracking boobies?

I prefer the large silent flexible type.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 14:53:23 Graham Spiers-son of a Baptist minister (good chaps those like Rev McCurry)!

Clever chappie wee Graham. We NEED to have legislation to stamp out religious bigotry and while I'm at it I'll make a few bob out of stirring up more trouble by painting the Huns in a worse light than the Tims-let's face it-they won't spot my nasty wee mercenary ploy when I'm a well known Proddy!

Very poor show indeed Graham. You know you only have to mention Neil Lennon in this context, and the fists start flying.

Good God-Ashton Lane-only yards from your old man's old church.

Sure it wasn't you who bopped him just to get a scabby wee story?
mortonjag 2008-09-04 16:04:05
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Sep 4 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]507447[/snapback]
I would hope that I don't stray into personal attacks on anyone on here although it's fair to say it's tempting at times. I will continue to challenge or support your views as I see fit.

Personally I do not feel we can move forward as a club unless and until there is radical change at the top. In my opinion the last 4 years have been about wasted opportunitites both on and off the park and in many ways although we are playing at a higher level the club appears to be in a far poorer state. I'm concerned that there is absolutely no sign of a serious attempt to build for the future and that continued atrophy is all that we have to look forward to. I'm hopeful that at some point the chairman will apply business principles to running the club and decide enough is enough and let someone who has better ideas and the wherewithall to deliver them to take over. I have no idea if AD is the man that fits the bill and I look forward to hearing what his agenda may be. I have no expectation that anything will be revealed until the key players want it. Equally I'm under no illusions that when changes come that the fans will be involved/consulted.

That seems a well balanced and reasonable summary of the status quo and in particular I agree with the last sentence.

What I take issue with is the apparent perception by some that the fans have no right to attempt to influence the Chairman's thinking. That is often allied to meaningless challenges to those who highlight deficiencies to 'put up or shut up'.

Gone are the days of 'I'll be eternally grateful', and 'Dougie, Dougie gie's a wave'. Some have suggested we shouldn't be too critical in case Mr Rae 'walks away'. I understand that fear, but think it ultimately achieves nothing except to reinforce his belief that he's 'right'.

I have little doubt that Alistair Donald wants control of the Club. I have no fears that he would attempt to 'asset strip' it-Morton is small beer to a man of his wealth. Whether or not he would prove to be as devoted to Greenock Morton as our current Chairman is questionable, but misguided devotion is getting us nowhere.

I believe it is time for Mr Rae to cut his losses, and totally let go of the reins, if indeed we have a wealthy backer waiting in the wings. Everything in football those days is a gamble, and that's a gamble I would be willing to take.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 16:19:04
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 4 2008, 03:58 PM) [snapback]507456[/snapback]
Actually you touch here on the broader issue of whether or not you should be charged every time you stop your car anywhere. Governments, and this current UK one in particular, see motorists as cash cows.

If they really wanted to find additional money for the NHS, they could start by taking a decision to abandon the plans to replace Trident. That would allow them to increase the block grant and hey presto, the NHS funding issue is solved. Or even better, let Scotland have her oil revenues, set up an oil fund, and again, we have the power to deliver an excellent health service without having billions of pounds syphoned off in extortionate and inflexible PFI schemes. The funding problems in the NHS are largely because the likes of blair and brown have set up a system where we are all being robbed blind and told we're getting a good deal.



You may well be correct in those assertions.

I prefer at the moment to stick to the thread agenda which relates to what I regard as another example of short sighted political expediency on the part of a very inexperienced Health Minister.

I would love Nickerless to stand up and say something like 'We're bloody skint until we scrap Trident and get our own oil, so I CAN'T deliver a Health Service which will meet demand. I hope you will understand that I need to introduce some unpopular measures in the interim'.


Do you think she will ever get round to doing that?

mortonjag 2008-09-04 16:51:48
QUOTE(EBu @ Sep 4 2008, 10:35 AM) [snapback]507270[/snapback]
I remember the good old days where a full back would let the tricky pacy winger skin him once for pace, the next time he tried it the full back would take the booking, give the winger the message and he'd be no bother after that.

Instead we're picking up stupid bookings in the wrong areas of the pitch (never mind captain marvels sending off).

The game has changed so much-particularly in the pressure on referees. I believe that in the good old days a ref was genuinely 'in charge'. Nowadays they are constantly worried about what others will think, and whether or not they'll get a 'good' match to ref next time.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 17:03:17
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 4 2008, 04:44 PM) [snapback]507475[/snapback]
Absolutely agree 100%.
He spends far too much time acting like a 17 year-old courting controversy when he could have written that days ago.

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mortonjag 2008-09-04 17:08:24 We will win-I've just decided. Last Saturday may prove to be our lowest point for a long time to come. Those who don't make the journey to Palmerston will only have themselves to blame. The Monkey say 2-1 with goals from Jenkins and Spoonsy.

C'MON YE TON



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mortonjag 2008-09-04 17:13:51
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 4 2008, 04:42 PM) [snapback]507474[/snapback]
Cowboy did have us playing some nice football until he lost the dressing room and he just did not have the managerial skills to get it back. After the collapse and blowing our 14 point lead, he should have been fired at the end of that season and that error probably cost us an extra season in the second division.

There clearly have been some dressing room issues in the last week at least with the Newby situation etc., etc. and it remains to be seen if irons can get it back. I hope he can as I just don't believe our players are as bad a team as last Sauturday suggests.

The really unfortunate thing is though that other teams are actually better than we I thought. Before the start most of us would have had Livi in the bottom half. Its shaping like we might be in a league with Clyde and Ross County to avoid relegation as everyone else looks better than us even if we play reasonably well.

Let's put it this way-if there has been a rift, it's either being fixed or we're well and truly f*cked.

I firmly believe it'll be sorted in time for a famous victory this Sunday.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 17:21:57
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 4 2008, 05:09 PM) [snapback]507488[/snapback]
Well, you could have. If you had written that on Wednesday morning then we wouldn't have fallen out and I wouldn't have wasted valuable selling time writing stuff on here. In fact, I reckon my replying to your pish has cost me money so I'll now go and work out how much and you can square me up with a cheque from Golden Casket. How does that sound Douglas? wink.gif laugh.gif

That should be no problem my good chap. Will it be in order for the cheque to come from Accenture-it's just a little sideline I have going you understand.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 17:48:45
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Sep 4 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]507466[/snapback]
it was quoted last week in the telegraph, the wife didnt even need to ask what it was about when police arrived to arrest him, she said to police "everyone will know about this now" i find that a bit strange, so it obviously happened in front of her or the children involved are closely related to her, surely it wasnt his own kids???

the strange thing was, that i worked with him during the time he was abusing these kids, just goes to show, you think you know people.

Indeed-and how do you view him now-a poor guy with an unfortunate psychological illness, or an evil conniving fiend who's betrayed the trust of children.

Now that he's (presumably) a convicted paedophile, I believe he should be offered hormonal treatment (chemical castration) for what I believe is an illness. That's in the public interest which must precede any individual 'human right'.

If he refuses-what then?
mortonjag 2008-09-04 17:59:26
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 4 2008, 05:45 PM) [snapback]507495[/snapback]
I would accept payment in Millions Douglas, it's no problem to me.

How many millions do you require in settlement. I'm a reasonable and honourable man as you know. I'm doing a special line at the moment on those tiny tasty chewy purple ones. May I offer you four jars in full and final settlement?
mortonjag 2008-09-04 18:14:34 I don't think it matters. We don't exactly have twenty or thirty to pick from, and things can (and should) be switched around on the day if necessary.

What's FAR more important is that the guys are determined to get back on track after Saturday's abysmal capitulation.

I believe they will.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 18:28:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 3 2008, 12:34 PM) [snapback]506839[/snapback]
as posted earlier ...

If his opinions were wrong, why are others now jumping on the MJ bandwagon ?

I think it's more a case of the truth having taken longer for most folk Newt.

It's great to see that folk are coming to their senses at last, and thankfully most of the unwarranted personal abuse is a thing of the past.

Those still indulging do so because they have what they see as personal scores to settle. Don't you think that's a little sad on our friendly little massage board? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-04 19:11:56
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 4 2008, 07:02 PM) [snapback]507535[/snapback]
Nope, your still a boring arsehole !


For whom you have a fatal fascination.

You are awful, but I like you (a little)! blush.gif

So does the monkey who sends an offering.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 19:29:11
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 4 2008, 07:01 PM) [snapback]507532[/snapback]
he should have 10 tone of Elephant s*** shoved up his arse...oh wait a minute....forget that he would probably enjoy it.

laugh.gif

You really don't like paedos---

not that I do-I hasten to add! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-04 19:40:27
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Sep 4 2008, 07:27 PM) [snapback]507539[/snapback]
wake is rubbish i'm sorry to tell you that. did ddfr not get a bit of abuse at the q&a for his signing. Tell me his goal scoring rate again? your quick to have a go at my formation and team so lets see yours smart ar$e!

Are you at the 'wind up'?


Wake has been immense for us this season. Scoring goals is not everything. I imagine you thought Sanny was pure keech too!
mortonjag 2008-09-04 20:23:16
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Sep 4 2008, 07:44 PM) [snapback]507546[/snapback]
if you look at what is still my message footnote you will see i did not think sanny was rubbish!

Well we're agreed on that-why do you think Wakey is rubbish-please don't say 'because he ain't scoring goals'.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 20:29:24
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 4 2008, 07:52 PM) [snapback]507551[/snapback]
Like you have with mr rae ? dry.gif

Actually that's more of an obsession.

I really don't understand what you're talking about. Who is this mr rae of whom you write?
mortonjag 2008-09-04 20:45:46
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 4 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]507567[/snapback]
When you see my nice Blue Frenchie flair disappearing in the distance in front of your staid Swedish Vectra Saab you will have proof positive I was there! And I agree, the players will have something to prove. I fancy us to do something!

I wonder if Irons got rid of an sh1t-stirrer in the dressing room?

Guess I'll never know if you've been then!
mortonjag 2008-09-04 20:58:19
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 4 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]507578[/snapback]
Why does he not just come out and say he's a bender ? That would stop the speculation immediately and put me out my misery rolleyes.gif

When I say misery, I don't actually mean misery. It was more being nosey about his sexual preferences. unsure.gif

He writes: "He hadn't had any thought at the beginning of giving up the priesthood, but when it became clear he was thinking of the possibility, I suggested he might help me with some charitable projects.


Like reaming my wee tight bum twice nightly with his Holy Willie! laugh.gif

C'mon Spurtle-he's 67 years of age. Full credit to Sir Cliff for coming out in a dignified way.

You must be BURNING with jealousy.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 21:24:24
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 4 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]507586[/snapback]
Right, I've worked it out and it'll cost you either 4 jars of sweeties or Peter Weatherson. It's your choice Dougie, I can call you Dougie can't I? blink.gif

You may call me Douglas, and your sweeties are already in the post.

Spoonsy Woonsy-erm-Peter's going nowhere.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 21:27:44
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Sep 4 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]507588[/snapback]
before he scored a few at the end of the season everyone thought it was a stupid signing and from what i've seen this season he's all effort with no skill and finish.

From what I've seen this season, he's done the work of two men. His 'hold up' play and distribution have been a revelation, and he can still score IF given the opportunity. Please don't blame Wakey for the DIRE supply.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 21:31:04
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Sep 4 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]507577[/snapback]
now i think he is a perverted b*****d who should be castrated, not with chemicals though - chop chop - then let him bleed to death.

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-04 21:34:11
QUOTE(SramTon @ Sep 4 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]507587[/snapback]
First time I've heard it called "a home"!

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A dwelling place for Homo Erectus a.k.a Spurtulus Spurtus?
mortonjag 2008-09-04 21:58:54
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 4 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]507606[/snapback]
aye in the changing room! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
im a hoot, me.

A horn darling!
mortonjag 2008-09-04 22:14:45
QUOTE(SramTon @ Sep 4 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]507611[/snapback]
All together now:

"We're all going on a bummer holiday,
no more worries for a gay or two..."

etc etc.

When I was sixteen I fell in love
with a girl as sweet as could be.
But I remember'd just in time,
what my daddy said to me.
He said "Son you are a bachelor boy
and that's the way to stay.
Son, you be a bachelor boy until your dyin' day

smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-04 22:16:57
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 4 2008, 09:57 PM) [snapback]507608[/snapback]
Quite right to , they have dishes and ironing to keep them busy rolleyes.gif
that will start them all off


Dldoridoo
mortonjag 2008-09-05 06:36:56
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 4 2008, 11:58 PM) [snapback]507642[/snapback]
I think playing Mcalister at left back would be finally giving up the ghost in actually going out to win games rather than not lose them.

Agreed.

QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 5 2008, 12:07 AM) [snapback]507648[/snapback]
No! It will be fine! I'll make a rude gesture on the way past so you can be sure!!



Provided we win, and provided you'll be ready to disappear quickly into the distance in my driving mirror, you may overtake me with your horn blaring, Ton scarves hanging out of all windows, and nakedly tossing yourself off to the strains of 'One Davie Irons'.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 06:57:49
QUOTE(El gofer @ Sep 5 2008, 02:28 AM) [snapback]507672[/snapback]
Didnt get that last bit NT, but I must say that I am pleased that a consensus has finally been reached on here. Davie Mac and TT, I agreed with your posts and also MJ's.

We are stagnating and seem to have no structure whatsoever to our club. I am hoping that DC is starting to sort the Yoof system out, as I think that there is so much untapped talent locally. Elsewhere, we are a joke commercially and I wont hold my breath for the stadium changes. Have I missed anything.

The thing that irritates me about MJ is when he stoops to the level of personal abuse and "I know something" stuff. (I will now speak in the 3rd person)
Gofer thinks that MJ is very articulate andMJ makes a lot of good points. Unfortunately, Gofer has to wade through a lot of keech first from MJ!!
Gofer really does think that if MJ has evidence then he should form an organised group to raise these properly.


Gofer concurs that the last 4 years seem to have been wasted and that we have gone backwards.

Gofer feel sad......

Then Gofer remember he off tomorrow.

Gofer has drink of his beer and now Gofer happy again....

Mortonjag is delighted to be able to irritate relatively intelligent people in addition to the regular clowns.

Mortonjag, buoyed by Barbarossa's bravado, will continue to say exactly what Mortonjag pleases, in exactly the manner which pleases Mortonjag. Mortonjag will lose no sleep over it.

Mortonjag will continue to personally abuse those who personally abuse Mortonjag.

Mortonjag will be the sole judge of how and when confidential information held by Mortonjag will best be used.




mortonjag 2008-09-05 07:09:27
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Sep 4 2008, 10:33 PM) [snapback]507619[/snapback]
MJ - if your are replying to my post - don't bother.

I can't see your posts and have no desire to.

I was responding to your post with a legitimate question.

There's only one thing I detest more than pomposity, and it's pompous school teachers who think everyone else should be treated like pupils.


ESPECIALLY pompous school teachers with serpentine jowls who cannot type even two lines without making an elementary error.

You are of course, perfectly entitled to cower under your little 'huff button'.

'Boasting' thereof is usually seen by intelligent posters as rather childish, and they are wont to quote Mortonjag's posts to that effect. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-05 07:17:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 5 2008, 07:05 AM) [snapback]507689[/snapback]
... and no correspondence will be entered into ?

Mortonjag will continue to correspond with Mortonjag's p.m. club with regard to all pertinent matters.

Extra loyalty points will continue to be awarded where considered appropriate, and can be redeemed at this year's Scottish Cup Final between Morton and Airdrie.

The Monkey shall be the sole judge of propriety.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 07:44:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 5 2008, 07:41 AM) [snapback]507694[/snapback]
Goodness mortonjag - do you live in a parallel universe, where it is already 2009 ?

The 2008 Scottish Cup Final has been run and won.

The Monkey has awarded you two extra loyalty points for observation.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 07:53:10
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 5 2008, 12:06 AM) [snapback]507645[/snapback]
Naw, only when I piss... huh.gif

Try wearing condoms-the pee pipe doesn't like jobby.

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 5 2008, 12:07 AM) [snapback]507647[/snapback]
Did't realise he was only a priest. I thought he was a bishop or something when Cliff said he was a "chief bummer"

Did you envisage Sir Cliff giving the Bishopric the benefit of his oral excellence?

QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 5 2008, 06:42 AM) [snapback]507687[/snapback]
Is the ex priest allowed to pop a few viagra?

No need, his friend will simply sing


Stand up, stand up for Jesus.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 07:57:13
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Sep 5 2008, 06:14 AM) [snapback]507679[/snapback]
All very bizarre.

I mean, I know there was some sort of sexual contact with his victims aswell which is unforgiveable and he needs punished for, but, supposing this fella was acting like this infront of adults (soiling himself) instead of kids, it still would be completely abnormal. He clearly has problems with his mental health; I think in this particular case, without knowing all the facts, this bloke does need some sort of ''help'' not just punishment, as clearly he is ill/sick.

A very sad and disturbing situation.

True.

I really hope we hump Queens this Sunday.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 08:12:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 5 2008, 07:44 AM) [snapback]507695[/snapback]
your nae serious.

AyrshireTon ain't no teacher.

blush.gif blush.gif

Oh dear-then I've been crediting him with intelligence when the poor soul is clearly not quite up to the mark.

For that I apologise.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 08:16:56
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 5 2008, 07:47 AM) [snapback]507697[/snapback]
aw - I wis hoping for a star.

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The Monkey says you're rapidly approaching the first gold star bonus award. There are one or two others in close contention, and their identities must remain confidential-though one of them is not Smegma.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 08:59:24
QUOTE(CJTon @ Jun 27 2008, 11:53 PM) [snapback]467962[/snapback]
My comments are based on my perception from actually meeting AD.

I have had the chance for over 30 years to see the inner workings of the club (by the way I have no formal connection with the club) and have got to know the people running the club. I know how hard they have worked to get the club to where it is today and I know exactly how bad it was in the times of HS. I have seen first hand the respect GMFC has built in the football community from a ruinous base back in the bad old days.

Our club is not doing too bad at all having survived in the 1st division last season and is hopefully set up now to move forward to the next stage. That is what everybody wants and obviously people will have different visions as to how we will achieve this


It appears that we have reached a stage where Alistair Donald should be showing his hand.

We clearly are making very heavy water of 'moving on to the next stage'-indeed some seem to suggest we are foundering if not actually going down.

Confidence in the current regime at Cappielow is undoubtedly at an all time low, with people suggesting that Mr Rae should 'cut his losses', and the closure of the recent transfer window putting 'the rubber stamp' on the Club's lack of financial resources.

Put simply-without inward investment, and particularly if Mr Rae is allowed to retain control, our club may very well be doomed to languish in the lower divisions for some time-if not for ever.

I started this thread because I believed it was important to know of Alistair Donald's plans.

It is now imperative that some guidance comes from the Club, and/or Mr Donald regarding our financial future.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 09:15:09
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 5 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]507714[/snapback]
Pompous teachers, pompous doctors, this place is full of pompous public servants.

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Pompous pedlars too!


On yer bike McArthur.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 09:20:04
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 5 2008, 08:23 AM) [snapback]507705[/snapback]
Where's my sweeties Douglas? I sat up all night and they didn't arrive. mad.gif

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QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 5 2008, 08:56 AM) [snapback]507709[/snapback]
I believe he is having trouble with the suppliers, they should arrive from Germany within the next 48hrs, if you give him another 24hrs after that to bag them then they should be with you by Tuesday, Wednesday at the latest.

I knew they were 'Out of the country'-that is a perfectly acceptable explanation midTons.

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 5 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]507710[/snapback]
Not good enough. My company provide a 24-hour delivery service and the warehouse is based in Brighton. I demand Peter Weatherson.

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QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 5 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]507715[/snapback]
I'll get me coat shoes and coat on, I'll personally have Peter in East Kilbride within the hour, remember once you sign for him we aint taking him back.

I'd leave it for a couple of hours-the traffic's still quite heavy and horse boxes can be difficult to negotiate.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 09:34:36
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 5 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]507713[/snapback]
Many a slip twixt cup and lip darling blush.gif

P.S. Why don't they just set up a Bum Boys Church? Or has that been done already...?

Aren't they all? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-05 09:37:07
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Sep 5 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]507720[/snapback]
I'm pretty sure I saw Kevin Keegan hot footing it along the esplanade wearing nothing but our 3rd strip and carrying a tub wi millions on it, not sure if it was mike ashleys millions of dougies though

Helicopter?
mortonjag 2008-09-05 09:40:24
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 5 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]507711[/snapback]
That'll be plain old prejudice then?

Or the truth, or lies?
mortonjag 2008-09-05 09:44:14
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 5 2008, 09:40 AM) [snapback]507725[/snapback]
I will be so f***ing jealous if he has! But he hasn't. I will stake my ringpiece on that! Pouffe!

HMM-always expect the unexpected.

Mind you the silence is a little ominous! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-05 10:49:15
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 5 2008, 10:31 AM) [snapback]507731[/snapback]
As posted by Jonaton on another thread.

http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/article...=2&id=18866

Alistair Donald is at the club to play a devil's advocate role......not disimiliar to your role on here sir.
And again courtesy of Jonaton. The investment plans to upgrade Cappielow to SPL compliant criteria.

http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/articles/1/24967
As reported elsewhere our playing staff budget for this season has increased by £180k.
All very ambitous plans some would suggest.

I sincerely hope this thread is not going to follow its previous pattern.

I am more than well aware of the information you have supplied. All of us who are genuinely concerned about the status quo keep well up to date.

Why are you stating unequivocally that AD is merely 'playing devil's advocate' on the basis of a Tilly report that's almost nine months out of date?

It's well documented that the share issue is spread over five years, and SPECIFICALLY earmarked to get the ground up to SPL standard. It's good, but hardly 'ambitious'. I'd like to think we could be playing remunerative SPL football a.s.a.p.

Equally, the increase in the wages budget is welcome (I wonder where THAT money is coming from), but sees us languishing at the bottom of our division.

Yesterday it was generally agreed that it's time for Mr Rae to step down. If you sincerely believe that AD's only here as an advisor, and that the club is moving upwards, I believe you are now part of a very small minority.

Do you honestly envisage progress without substantial inward investment?
mortonjag 2008-09-05 10:52:54
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Sep 5 2008, 09:48 AM) [snapback]507730[/snapback]
I'm afraid this was deemed not a serious enough matter for the flying aces to be dispatched, unless there is a delivery of HOT fish suppers involved resources are preserved and protected.

I wonder if Spoonsy's near E. Kilbride yet.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 11:20:14
QUOTE(centralTON @ Sep 5 2008, 11:14 AM) [snapback]507738[/snapback]
As unbelievable as it may seem.......... it's come to that. We seem to be so bereft of defensive talent that we may now have to turn to players that many would have liked punted close season. I'm hopeful that Walker might make Sunday though.

I still thing big Stu has something to offer. If he was playing alongside a seasoned pro who reads the game well and is vocal I'd be quite happy. I'd hoped McManus could fulfil that role.

Maybe he still can.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 11:25:53
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 5 2008, 11:17 AM) [snapback]507739[/snapback]
We possibly do need a new direction....I honestly don't know as I am not in receipt of any factual evidence, therefore I cannot make any conclusions either way.......All I have seen on here and the DDF cut his losses thread are wishy washy rumours started by people who cannot back up their claims. (and I am not getting at you here MJ)

Fair enough.

Like yourself, I don't think wishy washy rumours prove anything, and that's why I believe it's imperative that the fans are 'put out of their misery' by a statement of intent from the Club/AD.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 11:43:48
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Sep 5 2008, 11:29 AM) [snapback]507743[/snapback]
And who was it generally agreed he should go ? The board of directors, his family, companys house, who? because i never seen anything in the press about it. I remember a wee while ago that i asked if you would start to organise a 'time to go dougie' protest as you have spent the last 3 years uncovering discrepancies in the running of the club. I have yet to see that materalise. Why is that mortonjag? why not organise a proper protest about the way the club is being run instead of sniping from afar on a internet forum.

If you think that would be a good idea at this stage, I don't.

If you think that the ground swell of opinion that Mr Rae has taken us as far as he can goes unnoticed at Cappielow, I don't.

If you think that Mr Donald is unaware that the fans desperately want to know if 'he's in or out', I don't.

Finally, if you regard asking legitimate questions as 'sniping from afar', I don't.


Do you believe that a 'Time to go Dougie' campaign would be a good idea BEFORE we know what Mr Donald's intentions are?

mortonjag 2008-09-05 11:51:20
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 5 2008, 11:44 AM) [snapback]507745[/snapback]
laugh.gif
I've legged it down to Ayr and I've told the cleaners not to accept any dodgy looking Geordies.......I'd rather have the sweeties if that's ok?

Very well, but bear in mind that the purple millions are 'out of the country' at the moment. Perhaps you'd prefer some of those.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 11:58:42
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 5 2008, 11:53 AM) [snapback]507749[/snapback]
Whatever you have in stock Dougie, just don't send me Weatherson!!!!! blink.gif

Mr McArthur, I've been informed that he has now locked himself inside your garage. I hope he can find some food and drink therein. I'll take him back provided you can arrange transport.


Yours aye


Douglas.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 12:05:44
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 5 2008, 12:00 PM) [snapback]507752[/snapback]
Loving the 'yours aye' bit.... laugh.gif

I always like to personalise my personal correspondence Mr McArthur. The question remains, will Peter find enough to drink in your garage. He tends to become somewhat erratic when thirsty and I'd hate to have your esteemed neighbours disturbed.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 12:35:37
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 5 2008, 12:18 PM) [snapback]507755[/snapback]
And he will hump your leg Davie.

That's true Davie, and take my advice on this.

Semen spattered suits don't sell sweeties.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 13:22:58
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 5 2008, 12:49 PM) [snapback]507763[/snapback]
oh dear God, he's raising this nonsense from the grave again, I'd hoped it had been put out of its misery weeks ago....... (the THREAD, that is, not Moronjag, unfortunately!)

Let's get this straight.

1. We have no divine right to know anything about the internal running of GMFC. We may WANT to know (or, at least, SOME of us might), but we have no entitlement to that information - unless we are shareholders, and even then minority shareholders are not automatically privy to every piece of information about a company).

2. MJ must look at this forum and feel quietly proud. "Mmmm, almost 750 posts and over 33,000 "hits"......." ....... but if you scan the posts and those who post you'll see that there are just a small number of regular (sometimes VERY regular) posters, maybe 40 or so altogether. And as many are railing AGAINST his s***-stirring as are FOR it. This thread is the equivalent of a boozy pub conversation amongst supporters after a match, or on the coach going home from an away game, and is of about as much relevance or importance.

3. After all of the posts mentioned above, all that's been uncovered (shock, horror) is a minor error in terms of paperwork. Remarks about mountains and molehills come to mind........ dry.gif Anything else is off-topic and, almost without exception, more s***-stirring.

For heaven's sake, guys, don't rise to the old curmudgeon's bait. If this thread doesn't attract comment from anyone other than its originator it will quickly die a death - not nearly quickly enough, granted, but let's put it out of its - and our - misery NOW.

Let it go, Moronjag, and move along, there's a good coffin-dodger, there's nothing more to see here.......



Like all the other wounded insiders your time will come. Perhaps you are in fact back for more! rolleyes.gif

The fans ARE interested, and YOU have no divine right to come on here preaching from the gospel according to Dougie's minions.

So the Board is above questioning is it? Holier than the scummy fans?

Perhaps-but only so long as we pay our money through those antiquated Scapa turnstyles and enough reaches the proper destination. A club without fans is dead, and the fans have been drifting away. Your master knows that. You know that.

Without the fans there would be no Shimmin Ton, no Mabawsa Ritchie, and perhaps no Ron Number. Maybe when AD takes over they'll get their jotters anyway. Scapa is hardly renowned for the efficiency of the employees!

Douglas Rae is 'past his sell by date', Alistair Donald appears to be waiting to pounce, and the Club is at the moment in semi-crisis-cash strapped, unable to sign players- and with a Manager whose ability is currently the topic of serious debate, while he tries to deal with abysmal form, alleged dressing room unrest, purported transfer requests, and players running off homesick.

Meanwhile your raison d'etre is to continue your personal grievance against Mortonjag. That is unhelpful in the current situation. It's also patently selfish, and will achieve nothing except perhaps to stimulate further interest in this thread.

No harm done then.

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mortonjag 2008-09-05 13:31:28
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 5 2008, 12:58 PM) [snapback]507766[/snapback]
I've signed nothing Douglas, he's your player and you still own him. The cleaners will only allow him in if he takes off his shoes.
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Mr McArthur, the cleaners were apparently terrified at the sight of 'inside oot face' and bowed to his demand for the garage keys. He is, I'm reliably informed, currently barricaded therein, and has been heard banging about, singing, and latterly mumbling to himself.

I'm not sure what to suggest. Should we call the Police-an ambulance perhaps?

Yours very aye

Douglas.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 13:34:35
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 5 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]507783[/snapback]
All I can say is, 'here we go again'

As for him being messed about... pot kettle and all that.

TTG Peter

Well nothing will happen until he gets out of McArthur's garage.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 13:38:48
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Sep 5 2008, 01:36 PM) [snapback]507786[/snapback]
What?

He's locked himself in Davie McArthur's garage-haven't you heard?
mortonjag 2008-09-05 13:49:11
QUOTE(irnbru @ Sep 5 2008, 01:43 PM) [snapback]507792[/snapback]
Have I missed something with dressing room unrest, etc????

Back on topic however. Of course the fans should know how the club is being run especially after the problems we have had in the past.

Dougie Rae can't be let off time after time with the old he saved the club nonsense. Even that wee baldy b*****d Scott could have been continously back by such theories and what would have happened then??

I'm not in any way saying the situation is a severe as that but it shows what can happen if things are just let go. The club is festering at not too slow a rate and has been for a while so surely no one can advocate the continuation of this?

There may be absolutely no substance to the rumours which were flying about over the weekend.

Some might comment 'No smoke without fire'.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 13:52:11
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Sep 5 2008, 01:49 PM) [snapback]507795[/snapback]
I suspect I am going to regret asking this, and am not about to embark on a spate of multiple postings ; so, if possible a succinct but comprehensive answer please.

Why?

Because Mr Rae's purple millions are still 'out of the country'.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 13:56:48
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 5 2008, 01:15 PM) [snapback]507773[/snapback]
My mother had the unfortunate position of having to deal with these f***wits in her profession before she retired, in her professional opinion she NEVER came across a paedophile that she could say for 100% that that person would never commit an offence again. In most cases as i'm sure you are aware they are in complete denial, think their actions appropriate and that the rest of society are completely wrong in their condemnation of their actions.

She did however explain the 'illness' that blights older men who have never had inclinations for children at any point previous in their lives who suddenly have perverted 'feelings' and 'thoughts' for our wee yins.
That has been proved to be a medical condition and one where there is assistance available.
I would still string them up.

EXACTLY-and that's why I say hormonal treatment, and if they refuse, castrate them.

What was your Mother's job, BTW?
mortonjag 2008-09-05 14:17:02
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 5 2008, 02:07 PM) [snapback]507803[/snapback]
Main role was Senior Nursing Officer (psychiatric), but hands on. 30+ years in Argyle and Clyde Health Board for her sins.
Worked in wards all her life and continued to do so when she reached that level. Could never remain in an office.

Dealt with some very violent individuals, along with those with chronic illnesses brought on by alcoholism & drugs and of course those who abused the most vulnerable in our society.

Good sensible psychiatric nurses are like liquid gold those days.

Mortonjag's first paid job (aged 17) was as a 'nursing assistant' in the old 'locked ward' Ravenscraig.

A baptism of fire, and never to be forgotten experience, even though it only lasted for a few months!
mortonjag 2008-09-05 14:30:35 You're NOT interested in AD's intentions.

You DO want a TTGD campaign now.

You DON'T think the majority thinks Mr Rae's 'past his best'.

You regard asking legitimate questions on our massage board as 'sniping from afar'.

You want to know why I think a TTGD campaign before AD reveals his hand is a bad idea.


I'm afraid I can't quite piece that all together.

BTW regarding the 'sniping from afar', and 'message board' comments, one of Mr Rae's well known spies has been on already today.

Isn't that right Dave? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-05 14:35:40
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Sep 5 2008, 02:27 PM) [snapback]507811[/snapback]
Heh, I remember thinking the exact same thing a couple of weeks ago, slipped my mind though. I think Harding is actually a very good passer of the ball over distance, it's just his choice of when to do it that lets him down.

At his best, Harding's a pretty complete footballer. I believe his confidence and development were severely hampered under JM, and hopefully he'll improve rapidly this season, and-aye- he can drop a long ball 'on a sixpence'.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 14:42:26
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Sep 5 2008, 02:39 PM) [snapback]507823[/snapback]
Well, if I was going about throwing wee strops whenever anyone dared give me a wee bit of criticism for years of sloth, then I wouldn't have signed an extension in the first place, especially when it was only signed less than a year ago.
If he won't go, Irons should at least have the balls to chuck him out on loan to anywhere that will take him.

Last time at Palmerston against Gretna he was pretty impressive.

If he scores a winner on Sunday, few will complain.

Remember you're only as good as your last game!
mortonjag 2008-09-05 16:01:50
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 5 2008, 03:40 PM) [snapback]507847[/snapback]
I've no personal grievance against you, Moronjag. I just think you're an auld fud, and like most auld fuds you're a sourpuss(y) and prone to malevolent and festering discharges on an all-too-regular basis. And those discharges do no good to anyone.

BUT - you still appear to persist in the delusion that you are the admired standardbearer of a large band of Morton fans who will storm the ramparts of Cappielow's main stand and overthrow the perceived misanthropes who, you say, are dragging the club down through ineptitude.

You're not. You're an old fud who agitates a small audience on a low-circulation noticeboard. The world will keep on turning, at Cappielow and elsewhere, without any regard to your bluster. Big fish (in terms of volume), small pool.

I've likened you elsewhere to Captain Mainwaring from "Dad's Army". I was wrong, the above post proves you're closer to Private Fraser - all together now, "Aye, We're Doomed....... We're DOOMED.......!!!"

OK-you claim to have no personal grievance while your posts indicate otherwise which shows to decent posters that YOU are attempting significantly unsuccessfully to cause trouble. It also appears to show you up as a barefaced liar.

The children had their field day a long time ago attempting to bring down the Jag, and the Jag's still here. MUCH too late my friend! laugh.gif

Now I'll put you to the test. Without any personal stuff, do you think the fans deserve to know what the Club's/AD's intentions are?
mortonjag 2008-09-05 16:58:52 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Spoken like a true club insider. You shouldn't let yourself get so upset, and you shouldn't answer in Big Doc style either. The less you say, the less you blow your cover. That's a tip from Fing, BTW!

YOU don't think the paying customer has any right to question the service provider. The fans are already voting with their feet. Cappielow is an uneasy place those days. Rae has run his course. We're perilously propping up the league. Without inward investment we may well be f*cked, but YOU think the Rae regime is still above scrutiny! wub.gif Wouldn't it be wonderful if all masters could enjoy your level of loyalty. You're like an obedient sheepdog!

So here's the next question, for arrogant, high and mighty, and dismissive little Ronnie, defender of the humble and meek in spirit, and bitter opponent of perceived arrogance and haughtiness. laugh.gif

You claim not to be a liar. GOOD! I remain to be convinced!

Please confirm that you are in no way connected with Greenock Morton, except as a bona fide fan.

mortonjag 2008-09-05 17:00:17
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Sep 5 2008, 04:55 PM) [snapback]507889[/snapback]
spot on ron number, some people forget that this club is not owned by the fans but by dougie rae, and he is well within his rights to do whatever he wants with the club and how it is run.

Are you speaking to yourself?
mortonjag 2008-09-05 17:17:09
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 5 2008, 05:03 PM) [snapback]507900[/snapback]
no

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I think I understand!!!

You still haven't replied to my original p.m., BTW! smile.gif

Hey Bryan-while I'm on, do YOU think the fans have a right to expect some sort of statement of intent at this stage. I'm thinking in particular of the fact that-unless I'm mistaken- the Trust didn't get a reply from the letter it says it sent to Mr Donald. That, after all was to a (now) director, from the largest minority shareholder. I can't believe Mr Donald would treat the Trust with such apparent scant regard.

Funnily enough, I was thinking that Mortonjag may be extremely unpopular with the Trust committee at the moment-for asking pertinent questions.

Do you think a member of the Trust committee would stoop to the level of assuming an alibi in order to wantonly attack Mortonjag. I'm not asking you to divulge any confidences. A simple HONEST 'yes', or 'no', would be fine! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-05 17:27:37
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Sep 5 2008, 05:13 PM) [snapback]507906[/snapback]
I must admit, I do love the idea that you either fully support Mortonjag or you're a club insider laugh.gif

Your mind really does work in a special way.

I have a very special mind! laugh.gif

C'mon Stevie boy-yesterday you were praising me for my post on Dougie Rae's tenure. Give me credit for some intelligence. I can spot a 'phoney' a mile off!

Our friend Ron Number appeared a couple of weeks back with the sole purpose of discrediting Mortonjag. He's already been banned by Bryan for abusive posting, and Edinton has confirmed that 'he's on a shoogly peg' and that he agrees that Ronnie boy's raison d'etre is to attack ONE poster.

Forget personalities for a minute. Given that you-with many others-feel that the Rae regime has taken us as far as possible, and given that Mr Donald has finally been confirmed as a director, don't you think that the fans have a right to some kind of guidance as to the Club's/AD's plans, or do you agree with the poster in question that Rae is entitled to blunder on regardless?
mortonjag 2008-09-05 17:29:43
QUOTE(cmonaton @ Sep 5 2008, 05:23 PM) [snapback]507914[/snapback]
his last post was 4 25 he'll be away for the weekend now.

Thank you! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-05 18:45:30
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Sep 5 2008, 05:42 PM) [snapback]507922[/snapback]
It's a toughie this. Officially, they don't need to say anything, as many people have already stated and I'm sure that you're aware, and I kinda agree with that thinking. If the club, or Dougles Rae, or Alistair Donald, or anyone else for that matter, comes out and states that they may have intentions towards the club changing hands and then it fails to materialise, it would leave many supporters disappointed, and some would even slate the club for going public on such matters before they were concluded. The Chairman does have previous in this field, if you rembember the shenanigans surrounding the signings of David Hagan and Martin Hardie .

If discussions do happen to be taking place in relation to Mr Donald taking a more 'active role' in the club, shall we say, then I for one would be glad that these talks would be done in private. If any such move was completed, or close to completion, then and only then would it be sensible to make any plans for the future public IMHO.

I respect what you say, and in very general terms agree. I don't expect either AD or Mr Rae to publicise details of private arrangements or agreements between them either. What concerns me-and it's quite simple-is that the Club appears to be stagnating-perhaps even going backwards while having on the Board of Directors a mega wealthy man. So long as the fans are treated as 'chattels' (and I believe that's not unfair to suggest), by the present regime, and so long as our poor performances continue, more and more will drift away, confidence in the status quo will be further eroded, and we will just go from bad to worse. It's against that backdrop that I believe it would be in the interest of ALL if some kind of statement of intent could be forthcoming.

Indeed we have no right as fans to demand anything, and in return, Mr Rae has no right to expect us to keep paying through his turnstyles, let alone 'bring a friend' with us.

I have previously suggested that the fans deserve some guidance regarding the Club's vision of the way forward. In return for openness and a fostering of togetherness, the Club could reasonably expect a reversal of the currently alarming loss of loyalty.

QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 5 2008, 05:43 PM) [snapback]507923[/snapback]
im sure if Mr Donald invests he will release a statement.

Trust committee will meet you and a friend anytime we have no grudge smile.gif and none are ron wink.gif

I'm reassured to hear that. I was not thinking of Ron as a potential Trust Committee member.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 19:47:23
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Sep 5 2008, 06:06 PM) [snapback]507936[/snapback]
Not correct, and begs the question-who the f*ck do you think you are? You present yourself as an 'authority' while hiding behind what you THINK is anonymity. Mabawsa and Shimmin tried that too! rolleyes.gif

What I DO know (among other things) is that your head is well impacted in your voluminous arse when it comes to your beloved Trust.

You've objected to, and resented every legitimate question that's been asked of the Trust, while you pontificate about its finances, the importance of shares, the youth policy, and the FANS HAVING A STRONG VOICE. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Don't make me vomit-you claim that strong voice is the Trust --who can't get an answer to a simple question after two months. rolleyes.gif You claim it's 'time for change' and that the 'fans need to be heard'. AYE RIGHT, but you don't like it when this fan speaks out against your cosy wee sinecure infected sewing bee-do you?

Care to identify yourself, or do you want me to do it? smartass.gif
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Temper temper, don,t go throwing all your toys out of the pram at once like a spoilt child.

I know who you rae,(?) oops spelling mistake meant to say are(?) What next, I know where you you live and I´m going to send a couple of heavies round to pay you a visit! unsure.gif
Your not *careful, or I'll close down the Internet* in disguies or a pal of his by any chance? that,s how he used to threaten anyone who stood up to him. Your just an old bully.

What next, I know who you are (?) I know where you live and I´m going to pay you a visit with my Dr Shipman bag of lotions and potions and put a stop to this insubordination once and for all with a Shipmanjag in the arse.

Bring it on Shipman, remember raw meat I was brought up on raw meat and you wont bully me off this board.

When it comes to Morton you,ve never done anything positive. Are you sure your not a pal of Hugh Scotts?
You could always start the Glasgow Morton Supporters Club. Or If you dislike the Rae,s so much why don,t you start a boycott to get rid of them. Get off of "your voluminous arse"and do something, anything positive instead of carping from the sidelines.
But unlike others ,who your quick to criticise, you,ve never created anything in your life with regard to Morton.
A lot easier to sit at your keyboard and criticise rather than try to do something positive yourself.

Take a risk MJ go out on a limb for once. Try creating something, anything for Morton fans. I promise not to laugh when you fail, honest. laugh.gif I might even support you if it,s something positive.
Or are you going to sit behind your keyboard and rubbish everybody elses attempts and try your best to put down the Trust, the Rae,s or anybody elses attempts for that matter.

Oops there,s that Dr Shipman streak in you again. Why help the old codger Rae when you can try an arrogant Godlike Shipmanjag in the arse to get rid of him.

I read somewhere in one of your other posts that it,s your belief that Alistair Donald is just waiting to take over Morton? I nearly choked in my raw meat at that great pronouncement. If Alistair Donald has any sense he will have run a mile after seeing all the bile you brought up about him on this messageboard.

Doctor doctor, could it be that instead of assisting, as a good doctor would, to help the goose lay the golden egg you,ve just helped kill it off. Ah its that Shipman factor again oops.gif

Come on Shipman, get off "your voluminous arse and do something positive for a change, honest I wont laugh when you fail.

The simple fact Measles is that for whatever reason, and like only a few others now, you have set out your stall. You don't like Mortonjag asking questions because those questions HURT YOU. That automatically identifies you-if not specifically-at least as one with a vested interest in the status quo-be that relative to the Club, or in your case, the Trust.

As a result you choose to attack Mortonjag personally! Mortonjag responds in equal measure, but never initiates unprovoked personal attacks.

Your comments are not very pleasant, and I don't believe they cut much ice with the other posters.

Pointless allusions to Shipman, and irrelevant challenges to 'do something' are merely a smokescreen, as are your utterly risible jibberings about 'bullying'.

If you haven't the balls to identify yourself, that's fine by me. Others will draw their own conclusions about your worth and credibility.

mortonjag 2008-09-05 19:59:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 5 2008, 07:29 PM) [snapback]507988[/snapback]
And is the purpose of mutual personal abuse to distract our focus from serious issues at Cappielow ?

There is nothing mutual about it Newt!

In Mortonjag's case it is inevitably reciprocal.

Mortonjag is a stubborn old fart. Mortonjag acknowledges that!

Mortonjag's Daddy taught him this:

'Never hit anybody in anger, but if somebody hits you, hit him back HARDER'.

Mortonjag's Daddy was a wise man.

....and so Newt, if the unwarranted and unprovoked personal abuse keeps coming, Mortonjag will continue to do what his Daddy told him.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 20:08:17
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 5 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]508030[/snapback]
come on newton, make yer mind up smile.gif

and thank goodness that mortonjag eschews personal abuse

Don't be facile Alistair. If anybody deserves personal abuse from Mortonjag, it's your good self for your incessantly pointless digs and jibes, a very few of which have made Mortonjag smile.

Alistair-I'd never personally abuse you-well maybe if you were bending over naked before my throbbing organ-but really you're quite a gentle soul-and I like you.

Uninvited personal abuse from anonymous nobodies with hidden agendas is quite different as you very well understand.

Don't forget your pill tonight-the orange one with the little black stripe! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-05 20:16:50
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 5 2008, 03:17 PM) [snapback]507837[/snapback]
He's GONE!!!!!! I've just got back and he's not here. The cleaners must have let him out. b*****ds.

I suspect he's still in there-have you checked everywhere-he's quite good at hiding sometimes.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 20:25:49

QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Sep 5 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]507929[/snapback]
Welcome to Cappielow Chris. Typical comment from our moany-faced supporters I'm afraid. No doubt this was one of the supporters who wanted DI/DC to sign you during pre-season. blink.gif

ANUS-welcome back!

QUOTE(Deego @ Sep 5 2008, 06:32 PM) [snapback]507946[/snapback]
f*** OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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QUOTE(ShimminTon @ Sep 5 2008, 08:04 PM) [snapback]508035[/snapback]
Well said. rolleyes.gif

HA-turkeykeech and anus are mates-well whoever would have guessed! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(Deego @ Sep 5 2008, 08:06 PM) [snapback]508037[/snapback]
Because he's an absolute f***ing bellend and not welcome on my messageboard.

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mortonjag 2008-09-05 20:31:16
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 5 2008, 08:11 PM) [snapback]508045[/snapback]
So ?
Are you going to do something positive then Or carry on posting about how great you are ?

Stupid question !! dry.gif

I'm going to do something positive. I'm going to invite you to take a long walk off a short pier.

It will probably take you three hours to understand what that means, by which time the Monkey and the Jag will be safely tucked up in bed! laugh.gif


PS.

Why did the chicken cross the road?

If you don't know, I'll tell you tomorrow.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 20:36:23
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 5 2008, 08:14 PM) [snapback]508050[/snapback]
ah, the two-eyes-for-an-eye approach - i thought you were more of a new testament sort of guy laugh.gif

still can't figure out how this philosophy might lead to escalation though huh.gif

Take the little pill Alistair-orange with black stripe-remember.

Oh and your inability to understand the escalation-probably just that Mortonjag is a keen angler.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 20:39:22
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 5 2008, 08:29 PM) [snapback]508066[/snapback]
thanks for thinking of me, although i thought you 'played' guitar tongue.gif
and don't you forget yours biggrin.gif

(btw, i thought was a special forum for all this puerile tosh unsure.gif)

Nope Alistair-you're in the right place!
mortonjag 2008-09-05 20:43:21
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 5 2008, 08:32 PM) [snapback]508070[/snapback]

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mortonjag 2008-09-05 20:47:06
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 5 2008, 08:42 PM) [snapback]508074[/snapback]
will the board will be a quieter place? smile.gif

Which board Alistair-have YOU taken that pill yet! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-05 20:57:05
QUOTE(ShimminTon @ Sep 5 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]508078[/snapback]
Just ignore him SpotTon, He wasn't a Doctor btw.

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mortonjag 2008-09-05 21:01:03
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 5 2008, 08:53 PM) [snapback]508079[/snapback]
no, you 'seem' to have an inability to understand my 'inability', pythagoras

Don't get carried away with yourself Euclid. Mortonjag knows when you're being knotty!

PLEASE take your pill-we don't want a repeat of last time-do we? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-05 21:03:46
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 5 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]508085[/snapback]
So ? are you going to do something positive or carry on posting about how great you are ?


I'm going to do something positive. I'm going to invite you to take a long walk off a short pier.

It will probably take you three hours to understand what that means, by which time the Monkey and the Jag will be safely tucked up in bed! laugh.gif


PS.

Why did the chicken cross the road?

If you don't know, I'll tell you tomorrow.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 21:09:52
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 5 2008, 08:59 PM) [snapback]508083[/snapback]
was that for me?

either way, he's got such an unorthodox bedside manner, although he does seem to rely on pills rather too much biggrin.gif

Is that a professional opinion Alistair-I also do counselling if you'd prefer!

I have many post graduate qualifications in addition to my M.A., M.B., Ch.B.

I can even mow the grass-though I confess-not with the skill of a professional grass mower, though I'd imagine it's something you'd get good at very quickly. More of a task that a skill don't you think?
mortonjag 2008-09-05 21:22:02
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 5 2008, 09:15 PM) [snapback]508092[/snapback]
ok, i've taken all the pills just like you said

what now?

Dial 999-you were only supposed to take the orange one with the little black stripe! ohmy.gif

Alistair......are you still with us?
mortonjag 2008-09-05 21:27:25
QUOTE(leyTON @ Sep 5 2008, 07:34 PM) [snapback]507998[/snapback]
whats their punishment, kidney punch?

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Just a gentle jag in their little pink botties-very civilised!
mortonjag 2008-09-05 21:32:15 He WASN'T struck by a bus-he dived in front of the bloody thing and if he'd been killed, the poor bus driver would have endured immeasurable torment.

What was the purpose of the Police release of footage?

mortonjag 2008-09-05 21:35:50
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 5 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]508091[/snapback]
That's all fine and well, but the tax system proposed has too many loopholes and isn't adequate.
Or are we exchanging fiscal farce in return for political gain?
O aye, this is an SNP policy... rolleyes.gif

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Now, now-you're getting knotty again. I think I'll probably agree with you if you could repeat that in plain English! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-05 21:39:56 ALISTAIR...............................speak to me..........are you dead..........OH DEAR-I shall miss you.


Not a lot mind.
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mortonjag 2008-09-06 08:15:45
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Sep 5 2008, 11:25 PM) [snapback]508129[/snapback]
Can you tell me why two of my posts were removed from the "Is it Really Common Knowledge" thread?

For the attention of Measles!


Can you tell me what the posts said? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-06 08:24:25
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 6 2008, 02:45 AM) [snapback]508148[/snapback]
Away and f*** yourself.

Any grievances I have is f*** all to do with Smith - I wish him all the best and will be right behind him as I am with every Morton player on match day, Blufferson included. dry.gif

Bottom line is we've been led up the garden path with regards to promises of a small, quality squad. The reality is we've a smaller squad of similar or even LESS quality than last year.

I was on such a high after the manner in which we finished last season. Now, 3 months later, my spirits have hit rock bottom.

It's a sad time to be a Morton fan, the biggest underachievers in Scottish football for the past two decades.
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That's your opinion and my opinion Sir, but don't forget this little massage board is totally unrepresentative of the majority of REAL Morton fans, who in ever increasing numbers pack Cappielow to the seams every other week, think Dougie Rae's the best thing since sliced bread, trust the Trust to conquer all demons, and believe Nicola Sturgeon's a female..
mortonjag 2008-09-06 08:28:55
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 6 2008, 04:01 AM) [snapback]508170[/snapback]
"We are not bottom of the First Division because we have been playing badly - we just haven't had the breaks."

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11 goals conceded in 5 matches ... sounds like poor play to me.

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/displa...e_in_bother.php

Sounds like the story of/excuse for Kieran's whole career.

Anyway-here's hoping he turns it around tomorrow.
mortonjag 2008-09-06 08:43:43
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Sep 5 2008, 09:44 PM) [snapback]508102[/snapback]
Oh, hark at her!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I just wanted to reassure you Tony boy -and yer wee gardener pal- that Mortonjag's qualifications are authentic. Perhaps you could pass that on to the rest of Mr Rae's employees! wub.gif

QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 5 2008, 10:32 PM) [snapback]508116[/snapback]
Gidday Ma Maws,

Is mortonjag really a lady ?

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QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Sep 5 2008, 10:59 PM) [snapback]508122[/snapback]
So what,s it to be big mouth...either put up or shut up. Or do you and the monkey not have a pair of balls between you. Ever since you joined this message board you,ve been all mouth and no action.

I,ll challenge you again and again, either put up or shut up . Let,s see you do something positive for a change, anything. Go on prove me wrong.
Problem is I just don,t think you have it in you, good at having a go at everybody else but a real useless lump when it comes to actually getting off "your voluminous arse" and doing something positive.
Your a disgrace, you don,t deserve to inhabit this board among lot,s of good Morton supporters who have done their damnest to support the club through thick and thin.

I,ll say it again, put up or shut up! Or are you really all mouth and no action.

Measles has really become quite agitated. An early sign of rabies perhaps?

QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Sep 5 2008, 11:13 PM) [snapback]508127[/snapback]
There is no boycott at Cappielow, nobody is standing in the car park shouting abuse at the current owners or waiting until 03:15 to go into the games as a protest.
Your listening too much to "all mouth and no action" Shipman.

People are not going to games because the performances on the park are really dire. If Davey Irons could only get it right on the park people would come back to Cappielow. The credit crunch is not helping matters either.

So it's got NOTHING to do with Mortonjag's posts! laugh.gif

QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 6 2008, 04:06 AM) [snapback]508172[/snapback]
was mortonjag a sailor, then ?

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mortonjag 2008-09-06 08:50:20
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 6 2008, 08:30 AM) [snapback]508180[/snapback]
... to the rafters please

Rafter is a bananagram of farter.

'Seams', Newt-there's been many a stitch up at Cappielow! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-06 08:52:57
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 6 2008, 08:28 AM) [snapback]508178[/snapback]
... that mortonjag is supreme and that is no dream ?

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... that mortonjag is the best because he is better than the rest ?

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... that mortonjag is a pain without any gain ?

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...that mortonjag is getting bust for questioning the Trust?
mortonjag 2008-09-06 08:59:44
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 6 2008, 08:53 AM) [snapback]508184[/snapback]
..gives us something to talk about I guess smile.gif

I'd rather discuss something of substance. Port ton is correct in his assessment. For the poor driver's sake I'm glad he survived.
mortonjag 2008-09-06 09:07:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 6 2008, 03:21 AM) [snapback]508152[/snapback]
From: Angela Kenis
Abidjan Cote d'ivoire
West Africa .


My Dear mortonjag,

Please do reply me through by PM and also send me your direct E-mail to reach you.

It is my pleasure to contact you for a business venture which I intend to establish in your country. Though I have not met with you before, I read your information with many interest.

I believe, one has to risk confiding in succeedful man sometimes in life.

There is this huge amount of eight million U.S dollars ($8,000,000.00) which my late Father kept for me with a Fiduciary Fund Holder in Abidjan before he was assasinated by the Rebels persons during this war in Cote d'ivoire.

Now I have decided to invest these money in your country for security and political reasons. mortonjag,I want you to help me claim and retrieve this fund from the Fiduciary Fund Holders and transfer it into your personal account in your country for investment purposes on these areas:

1) A Football Club
2) The Transport Industry
3) Five Star Hotel
4) Real Estate Management
5) Confectionery Manufacturer

If you can be of an assistance to me I will be pleased to offer to you 15% of the total fund for your assistance to me. Please reply to me through my private email for more details.

I await your soonest respose.
Respectfully yours,
Miss Angela.



I've copied and pasted this into an e-mail to Greenock Morton.

I think we can safely assume that the matter is now closed.
mortonjag 2008-09-06 10:25:23
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 6 2008, 09:38 AM) [snapback]508196[/snapback]
Not suggesting that the downturns in his career have been all his doing, are you?

WOOD EYE
mortonjag 2008-09-06 10:28:09
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 6 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]508199[/snapback]
once again, no answers to the questions asked.

First PA of the day! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-06 10:35:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 6 2008, 09:02 AM) [snapback]508187[/snapback]
Ok...you are right.
Stop talking about it then happy.gif

I'm not! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-06 11:28:21
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 6 2008, 11:03 AM) [snapback]508214[/snapback]
Do you watch Countdown much? Richard Whiteley will be turning in his grave at the thought of this spelling disaster. rolleyes.gif

I never missed Countdown when 'Whiters' was the boss. After he died it went downhill.
mortonjag 2008-09-06 11:30:18
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 6 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]508218[/snapback]
Thing is, no-one really cares.

It amazes me that after all this time there are still people out there willing to supply the attention Jaggie so clearly craves.

If he annoys you so much don't read his stuff, he'll vanish from your life even quicker than vanishes from this board in the wake of a good result.

Myth and PA No. 2.
mortonjag 2008-09-06 11:33:33
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 6 2008, 11:23 AM) [snapback]508223[/snapback]
I remember last season after the StJ game up there when Weatherson scored the equaliser and I started a thread about , goal aside was he doing enough ?

Still have the scars to prove it .

Agree with JonaTon , the only problem Peter has is with himself , remember that inane comment from McInally about if Weatherson was fit he'd be playing at a higher level !! If he was bored then what was the security of a 3 year deal going to do .

I honestly think that deal sums up why we haven't progressed the way we should have .

Peter's concentration span stretches 2 or 3 games and no coach can change that mentality . The biggest joke is have to rely on this guy whenever we get in the smelly stuff , which I guess suits Weatherson as he is allowed to be unfit and uninterested .

Small squad of quality anyone ......

I'm still puzzled about who authorised the wage hikes and long contracts for existing players which appear to have eroded DI's 'budget' so much.
mortonjag 2008-09-06 11:41:32
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 6 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]508217[/snapback]
Extreeeeeeeeeeeemly unlikely.

If there was no evidence to prove his innocence then equally there would be no evidence to prove his guilt, which would of course be required to secure a manslaughter conviction.

Plus, even without CCTV evidence they could prove quite easily that he hit the side of the bus and not the front of it, confirming that the driver was not to blame.

If only that were true!

It seems like common sense, but there would be countless measurements to establish probable speed, the driver would be breathalysed, tyres, brakes etc., checked, and the driver would be made to feel like the culprit irrespective of innocence.

Remember the crazy and impractical rule that you ALWAYS have to be able to stop in time to avoid an accident, and pedestrians ALWAYS have priority over vehicles. In theory you're supposed to drive along fully expecting some deranged brat to catapult himself into your path.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 07:09:07
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Sep 6 2008, 12:48 PM) [snapback]508258[/snapback]
Thanks to everyone for their advice and assistance in correcting the self inflicted problem dry.gif
As for Mj ....blah blah blah. I,ll say it again, put up or shut up! Or are you really all mouth and no action.

No Measles, that's Jim McColl.

QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 6 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]508425[/snapback]
Cause you spend most of your day licking your own baws.

or Mr Rae's arse?
mortonjag 2008-09-08 07:12:21
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Sep 6 2008, 12:33 PM) [snapback]508245[/snapback]
blah blah blah................your daddy raised an all talk no action bag of wind. Your full of hot air and nothing else.
I,ll challenge you again and again, either put up or shut up .

No, no Measles-you misunderstand-mortonjag is a mere fan who entrusts the important things to important people like Jim McColl.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 07:28:58
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Sep 7 2008, 12:48 PM) [snapback]508634[/snapback]
Barbarossa, I,m certainly not out to deflect attention at all. Far from it, I,m out to bring to everyones attention the fact that MJ is all mouth a no action.
I want him to put up or shut up. But he hides behind his computer and doesn,t get his hands dirty.

But he takes great joy in criticising everyone else. I know I should ignore him but it,s not in my nature.

So my challenge to him is to put up or shut up, is he a man or a mouse. Get him to do something positive for the supporters. Simple suggestion, form the Glasgow Morton Supporters Club. Get people to join run a bus to the games from Glasgow . Anything in fact that helps Morton supporters. But as I said he,s all hot air. All talk and no action but great at criticising everyones else,s efforts.

Your problem from the word go son has been that mortonjag dared to criticise your big daddy Trust.




QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 7 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]508644[/snapback]
You must be one of the only ones of all the posters registered on this board who doesn't know who he is.
Jim is a media tart and has had his coupon emblazoned many a time in the local press and the programme.

Why do people need to use their own names? Its a f***ing messageboard not a court of law.

Your posts are now in danger of descending into madness. They are getting more frantic with each passing one.

Edited to add: I really, really hope you don't have anything to do with the trust.

I diagnosed early rabies a day or so back-there is no cure for rabies.

QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Sep 7 2008, 01:14 PM) [snapback]508645[/snapback]
No problem with him criticising what goes on at the club, we all do, it,s a disaster at times. I have no problem with free speech either, we are all entitled to our opinions.
But why criticise and do his best to demean anyone who has the cheek to actually defend the club. It,s not the logical argument he puts across but the personal attacks he makes against people, like he,s wiping s*** off his shoe.

He,s a thoroughly disagreeable, arrogant person who I,ll say again is full of hot air and has done nothing for the club or it,s supporters.
And while he continues to talk down to people I will continue to talk back to him and challenge him to do something positive for a change.

Oh, and before I forget my congratulations to your mate.

That's one of your best yet Measles. Mortonjag never personally attacked you, but as always has been forced to defend his corner.

From day one you resented questions being asked of the Trust, and in particular of certain Trust Board members.

It's dawning on other reasonable posters that YOU are the one with the agenda-an unreasonable, knee jerking and spitefully hurt agenda, reminiscent of a spoilt brat deprived of a sweetie.

You call mortonjag names, accuse mortonjag of being 'all mouth' and plaster your patent jealousy of mortonjag's superiority over your every post, and each time you do, mortonjag wonders what you're trying to hide. dry.gif

mortonjag 2008-09-08 07:45:00
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Sep 7 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]508848[/snapback]
He's a Doctor you know!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

That is correct Tony-not somebody who re-assured everybody about Alistair Donald being a director etc., AS AN EX CIVIL SERVANT. thumbup2.gif thumbup2.gif

Let's face it that was a pretty certain clue you'd be wrong or lying-AS YOU WERE! thumbdown.gif

What is it with you and doctors-are you just an example of the all too common, little nobody, 'full fish supper on the shoulder' creep, or did some Quack treat your scrotal pruritus with nitric acid? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 07:50:54
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 6 2008, 11:53 AM) [snapback]508238[/snapback]
Don't see a prediction thread anywhere else....so...

I'll go QoS 1 - Ton 2

This is the week we turn the corner.

Good morning Cawstick-I'd just like to inform you that I had already predicted a victory for the Mighty Ton, AND that the Airdrie game would probably be our nadir this seaason-LONG before that post.

....AND long before you posted this utter bollocks:


Thing is, no-one really cares.

It amazes me that after all this time there are still people out there willing to supply the attention Jaggie so clearly craves.

If he annoys you so much don't read his stuff, he'll vanish from your life even quicker than vanishes from this board in the wake of a good result.



Let's just get one thing clear-Mortonjag is a TON supporter through and through. I THOROUGHLY enjoyed yesterday afternoon's victory, particularly McGuffie's superbly taken goal. What did you think of it?
mortonjag 2008-09-08 08:06:39 I was told the Tilly was desperate for any material it could get. It could easily have edited IrnBru's letter with his permission.

Nope folks-the Tilly wouldn't publish such an overt criticism of Mr Rae.

Not quite time for that yet!

So that's IrnBru and Mortonbug had their letters knocked back.

Bad show Tilly.

And well done to those two posters, for TRYING to criticise the establishment.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 08:09:31 I thought young Smith looked pretty solid at left back yesterday.

I though Jimbo looked lost again.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 08:30:19 If the players really read this, I'd just like them to know that they are even dafter than mortonjag thought.

Oh-and if you do-aye that Jenkins bloke was the only one of you yesterday who dared to run at the Queens defence, so I say-well done!
mortonjag 2008-09-08 08:46:03 McGuffie was my MOTM. He made Wakey's goal, scored a peach, and 'ghosted' all over the place. So often Ryan's the guy who's back there putting in a vital tackle, or forward making a telling header.Time for some to get off his back.

Smith impressed me well.

I thought the defence and midfield coped pretty comfortably, but the downside was that we again created absolutely ZILCH from midfield or wings. It was great to win, but again a dour encounter.

Stevie Masterton's definitely going to have to brush up his act to be worth a place-I'd have Jamie Stevenson in there any day TBH!

I thought Irons took an eternity to sub him with Jenks, and it immediately made a difference with the latter trying to bring Jimbo into a game where he'd looked lost.

Thought Cuthbert had little to do and looked comfy.

Now-a question-when our midfield is so lacking in creative ideas, why is Alex Walker still used as general dogsbody!

Anyway the bookies had us 3-1 against! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 09:23:49
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 8 2008, 09:05 AM) [snapback]509018[/snapback]
I agree but when Jenkins came on he brought him far more into the game.

Morton fans last saw Smith for the St Mirren game when he had played the full 90 minutes in about 6 games in eight days. I think he will be a very good signing for us.

I've made that very point in the post match thread, and I believe Jenkins should have been on after the interval.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 09:27:02 I actually thought Wakey was arguing with the officious wee linesman that the Queens' boy didn't deserve a booking.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 09:28:35
QUOTE(tonfromaffar @ Sep 7 2008, 08:02 PM) [snapback]508812[/snapback]
DI's budget wasn't crippled by massive wage hikes it was crippled by brining in Gretna cast offs at there current contract rates that old brooks was paying them and that includes irons and collins that is where the clubs money has gone and i am sorry to have to say this but none of them have been a sensation so far overpaid premier rejects.

Do you have the official figures?
mortonjag 2008-09-08 09:31:28 Mortonjag is a handy plumber.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 09:33:59
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 7 2008, 08:35 AM) [snapback]508576[/snapback]
Maybe you and your bumchum moronjag should give up posting for one day (per week) initially, and decrease it from there.

That'll save a f***in lot of energy (and hot air) !

Beermonkey in pleasant mode! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 09:43:56
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 6 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]508282[/snapback]
I have first hand experience of this, sadly, and based on that I can tell you that that wild and sweeping assumption is completely wrong.

Not long after I passed my test a young kid about 5 ran right out in front of me and I knocked him down (funnily enough it was just after a Ton game at Cappielow). There was absolutely nothing I could have done to avoid it, in fact if I hadn't reacted as quickly as I did it could have been a lot worse (the kid was rushed to hospital and although quite badly injured fortunately he survived and went on to make a full recovery). Simple_Ton was a passenger, he'll back me up.

The police of course breathalised me and the brakes and tyres on the car were thoroughly checked, and witness statements were taken. Never once though did that make me feel like the culprit, quite the opposite in fact I welcomed it as I saw it as giving them more evidence towards proving my innocence. The police were professional in their investigation and didn't pre-presume any guilt or innocence in my part, and I was treated with dignity, courtesy and respect.

No charges were ever brought against me.

I'm glad of that. Personal experiences are enlightening but don't alter the general rule. Indeed it's naive and perhaps slightly arrogant to argue the general from the particular!

For many years I performed medical examinations for lawyers acting for insurance companies in road accident claims. I've interviewed countless folk with first hand experience of the immediate aftermath of accidents, and let me assure you that the innocent are often left feeling extremely abused. Bear in mind that good eye witnesses are not available at every incident, and it's NOT uncommon either, for false witnesses to appear to support a claim.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 10:48:11
QUOTE(longboat @ Sep 8 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]509028[/snapback]
From the BBC...
"For Morton's second, Brian Wake cut the ball inside for Erik Paartalu, who set up McGuffie in space for a shot which flew past goalkeeper Bell once again"

If the midfield did zilch why do they keep scoring?

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Well you can take the BBC's interpretation of ONE incident if you wish!

I was merely highlighting the total absence of 'creativity' from midfield, and the lack of any effective wing play.

mortonjag 2008-09-08 10:49:57
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 8 2008, 09:59 AM) [snapback]509031[/snapback]
I'm not sure what point your making but thank you kindly for the information!
Hahaha...so much resentment burning through that post. laugh.gif

Sorry to drag you on here after a win Jaggie...normal service can be resumed next time and we won't say another word about it wink.gif

Did you enjoy the game Cawstick? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 10:53:59
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Sep 8 2008, 10:20 AM) [snapback]509036[/snapback]
Protect your tool? blink.gif tongue.gif

Always protect your tool Thrax-ESPECIALLY if you're planning to jump in front of a bus! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 10:59:27 I was discussing LIT with an experienced Local Authority accountant at the weekend. He reckons it's almost as unworkable as the Poll Tax, and doesn't have a hope of being implemented.

Please note-DO NOT SHOOT THE MESSENGER! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 11:05:39
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 8 2008, 11:03 AM) [snapback]509045[/snapback]
So spotty dug what do you think of the youth set up ? Why did you let yourself get manipulated by Doggie Rae as the figurehead of a shambolic set up .

Go and bury yourself with your next bone from your master .

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mortonjag 2008-09-08 12:03:57
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 8 2008, 11:08 AM) [snapback]509047[/snapback]
What a greetin faced wee boy you are! What moron would just walk upto the gate on Saturday and expect to see someone about shares he wishes to purchase, without prior appointment. Do you have any other shares? Did you just stroll upto their head office at the weekend and expect someone to take your form and cash from you too.

Oh indeed-yet another example of resentment of criticism of an organisation that makes Steptoe and Son look like a hive of industry!

Why are you calling a genuine poster and fellow fan 'a greetin' faced wee boy' and a 'moron'? What does that say about YOU?

QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 8 2008, 11:44 AM) [snapback]509055[/snapback]
Weegieton - I also work Mon-Fri (as do the majority of office staff at Cappielow I'm sure). I booked hospitality earlier in the season, not by turning up at the gate on a Saturday, but by contacting Morton during the week by phone.

I just can't get my head round theses morons who just turn up out the blue and expect the red carpet treatment.....think it thru!

The majority of office staff at Cappielow-that's an interesting term. Is it a really big office with lots of line managers and stuff? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 12:38:36
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 8 2008, 12:25 PM) [snapback]509068[/snapback]
Cappielow resembles the Marie Celeste many days.

mortonjag 2008-09-08 12:58:59
QUOTE(suda @ Sep 8 2008, 12:44 PM) [snapback]509072[/snapback]
Russell played wide right yesterday and had an excellent game putting several good balls in. I'm sure our 1st goal came from a cross from his wing. Walker was solid at right back and has never been a creative force so he's doing a valued job where he is. Stick to criticizing the chairman that's what your good at.

Thank you for that rare compliment!


Now let's see what you said.

We just let Newby go-correct? That leaves us with two strikers (I'd argue for Spoonsy too, but he wasn't used yesterday till the last few minutes).

So you're telling me that Iain Russell's now our right winger who will supply wonderful crosses all day to the strikers-sorry lone striker.

All you are doing is portraying a poor compromise as an active solution-which it plainly is not.

How often has Walker been played in an attacking midfield role (his natural position) in his whole time at Cappielow? Of course he's never been a creative force, and of course he could be, and a damned sight more creative than Masty or Pantaloons for starters. Indeed he looked quite solid at right back, but he's NOT a right back, and a tricky left winger will expose that.

SO-just another slag the Jag post Suda.

Why don't you stick to slagging the Jag?

That's what you're good at! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 13:05:10
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 8 2008, 12:40 PM) [snapback]509070[/snapback]
Common error, including water charges Glasgow band E £1,946.43 , East Renfrewshire £1840.09.

About a 5% difference.

What drives people out of Glasgow is the education system.

Inter alia!
mortonjag 2008-09-08 13:07:12
QUOTE(El gofer @ Sep 8 2008, 02:00 AM) [snapback]508968[/snapback]
Havin a rare wee night.

Bought some Scottish ale from Tescos...

punk ipa, broughton border gold, cally 80-, Joker Premium Pale Ale from William Bros Brewing Co. in Alloa + another from broughton ales that wisnae too good. 7 in total
Superb ales!!! Mone scots breweries!!!

Listenin to my favourites teenage fanclub, first time in a while....... Also Idlewild..... loving a lot of scottish bands like glasvegas, Lucy Baines Band and the Parkers........

Mone scots music.

Watched the end of murray nadal........... a scottish sportsman who has total believe and doesnt give a sh1t.

Mone andy murray.....!

Channel flicking and caught the last 20 mins of Braveheart. 4 ales down I recited it to my by now beleagured better half.....

Mone Scottish fullums!!!
And the ton won.....AND I'm aff the morra!!!!

MONE SCOTLAND!!!!!

If by some freakish quirk of fate superbrat wins the final, he will again be an all BRITISH hero!
mortonjag 2008-09-08 13:56:32
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 8 2008, 01:30 PM) [snapback]509089[/snapback]
Alex Walker isn't an attacking midfielder. I'd have thought someone usually so quick to point out peoples proper positions would know that. tongue.gif

Look sonny boy don't you talk to me about positions-you only know one-and it suits me fine, and Alex Walker is a natural attacking midfielder who's been wasted since JM clapped eyes on him.
QUOTE(suda @ Sep 8 2008, 01:33 PM) [snapback]509090[/snapback]
I didn't mention the strikers or in yesterday's case the lone striker I merely pointed out that the supply from wide yesterday, Russell in particular wasn't as poor as you were making out.

It doesn't matter what font you use IMO Walker is a utility player solid but not spectacular he has never given any indication he's the man for the attacking midfield role his pace alone would probably rule him out. I don't have all day to get into a boring pedantic argument with you although I would rather slag the Jag than any of the players especially after a decent performance like yesterday. So carry on point scoring if you like.

HAHAHA-the old 'I'm too busy' excuse from the guy who threw down the gauntlet! laugh.gif

So long as you add 'IMO' that's fine by me. You didn't the first time, and in any case I'm correct. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 13:59:49
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 8 2008, 01:14 PM) [snapback]509083[/snapback]
Ah the benefits of a classical education. happy.gif

High School or Academy? unsure.gif

Pishley Grammer Mr Bam! shutup.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 14:08:49 Hey ho hum- Ronnie boy nails his true colours to the Marie Celeste mast!

Mabawsa

Shimmin

Russell's Muscles

Ron Number

Mr Rae must be SO proud of you all! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 14:10:06
QUOTE(briggsTON @ Sep 8 2008, 02:06 PM) [snapback]509107[/snapback]
The draw is on Thursday afternoon.

Thank you and happy birthday old man! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 14:16:31
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 8 2008, 02:10 PM) [snapback]509113[/snapback]
hmmm, this from the man who self-righteously accused me of being abusive towards him the other day....... it's obviously a case of "don't do as I do, do as I say", eh, MJ?? dry.gif

Indeed not at all Ronnie boy-I was being-I believe- factual in my comment about a certain poster 'licking Mr Rae's botty'.

Furthermore I'm not an anonymous poster with a solitary agenda which the Mods have already spotted and acknowledged.

Just in case you're wondering to whom I'm referring Ronnie boy-it's YOU!

Would you say that's abusive or factual.

Would you be in the slightest offended if I asked what your wages are at Cappielow? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 14:19:14
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 8 2008, 02:17 PM) [snapback]509121[/snapback]
Ye - well, "Physician, Heal Thyself" - there must be SOMETHING he can do to cut down on the amount of bile he produces....... laugh.gif

That was almost witty Ronnie boy-did you get that from somebody intelligent?
mortonjag 2008-09-08 14:22:03
QUOTE(Deego @ Sep 8 2008, 02:16 PM) [snapback]509118[/snapback]

Interview with Alex Walker
in depth profile

Alex Walker signed for Morton during the close season of 2005 as an attack minded midfielder.

Thanx Deeglet! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 14:25:04
QUOTE(tonfromaffar @ Sep 8 2008, 02:10 PM) [snapback]509112[/snapback]
DI offered ryan and Jenks to the ton just before Mcinally was let go he knew that Mcinally was on his way out the door and was already pre-empted to take over as and when. good buisness sense from DI but abit nieve from DDFR to give them equall contract terms (good Lads though and will do well ).

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mortonjag 2008-09-08 14:27:40
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Sep 8 2008, 02:25 PM) [snapback]509134[/snapback]
It's obviously wrong. Shock, horror! rolleyes.gif

He was signed as a holding/defensive midfielder and that is where he played (quite well at times) when he first joined us. He was never an attacking midfielder, and no manager in their right mind would use him as one.

Well son-maybe you're just too young to remember but one of his first games for us was at Pishley where he looked pretty impressive in his natural attacking role.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 14:33:02
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 8 2008, 02:30 PM) [snapback]509141[/snapback]
The ting tings - that's not my name

No-it's beermonkey-hey monkey-do you ever listen to PROPER music? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 14:35:50
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Sep 8 2008, 02:33 PM) [snapback]509146[/snapback]
The occasional shot from outside the box does not make his position an "attacking role".

You said you'd have Jamie Stevenson in the midfield any day. You obviously know hee-haw, you condescending t***. smile.gif

I said I'd rather have had Jamie to Masty on yesterday's performance my child.

As the previous poster indicated, Alex has been-shall we say-messed about!
mortonjag 2008-09-08 14:47:53 Ronnie boy- the quality of your posts is deteriorating badly.

You started off with vile scumbag nonsense which is clearly what you do best! smile.gif

I'm beginning to warm to you.

Good gracious, at this rate I'd imagine we'll soon be making love together! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 15:24:26
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 8 2008, 02:50 PM) [snapback]509163[/snapback]
Dream on, MoronJizz....... wetly.

That's what they all said Ronnie my darling! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 15:26:46
QUOTE(tonfromaffar @ Sep 8 2008, 02:33 PM) [snapback]509148[/snapback]
DI pre-empted the moves of Mcguffie and Jenkins as he already knew he was going to take over. They weren't playing at Gretna and if Morton signed them then He would definatly come to. And when he got there first thing he done was bring in big Eric. All these players came to the club on equal contracts to the ones they were on at Gretna plus there massive signing on fees. This is where the budget has gone

Do you have the figures?
mortonjag 2008-09-08 15:30:54
QUOTE(tonfromaffar @ Sep 8 2008, 02:58 PM) [snapback]509165[/snapback]
You realy dont have a clue what goes on at this club or any other you live in your little morton world where nothing can harm you . crying.gif

Sad very Sad

Not ANOTHER bloody insider!!!

Name, rank, and number my friend. Only then comes credibility! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 15:36:37
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 8 2008, 03:16 PM) [snapback]509174[/snapback]
Just like some on this site hide behind an alias.

laugh.gif

True Barbie, but I've a feeling Ronnie boy's falling in love with the Jag. His posts are becoming more tender by the minute on that Scapa clock! Soon I shall have him in my cellar! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 15:38:18
QUOTE(Alexton @ Sep 8 2008, 03:20 PM) [snapback]509177[/snapback]
At the queens vs morton game yesterday I heard one of the queens (maybe more) making a racist remark when Shimmin had the ball.
Did anybody else hear this?

I heard hunners of remarks. Could you provide a clue?
mortonjag 2008-09-08 15:39:30
QUOTE(Deego @ Sep 8 2008, 03:36 PM) [snapback]509202[/snapback]
I'm having an affair with your mother, darling. Sorry it had to be this way.

mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 15:42:25
QUOTE(Deego @ Sep 8 2008, 03:40 PM) [snapback]509205[/snapback]
I told you it was over.

I shall be shagging Ronnie boy within the week I predict. I'll miss you Deeglet, but POUFFE love just wasn't your scene! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 15:44:19
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 8 2008, 03:34 PM) [snapback]509197[/snapback]
38 - 24 - 36

I love those guessing games Barbie.

I'll go....erm.....


Gillian Donaldson?? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 15:45:58
QUOTE(Deego @ Sep 8 2008, 03:43 PM) [snapback]509207[/snapback]
There's always a place in my heart for you, dangly dong. wub.gif

You are a sweet sweet boy. I hope Her Majesty treats you as gently as old jaggy did. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 15:48:14
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 8 2008, 03:45 PM) [snapback]509210[/snapback]
I would have thought having 2,000 people at your door every other saturday would have any decent businessman thinking how he might take advantage of that... mountain and Mohammed springs to mind rolleyes.gif

Mountain Mohammed-hmm-is he nice?
mortonjag 2008-09-08 18:09:26
QUOTE(SramTon @ Sep 8 2008, 05:33 PM) [snapback]509302[/snapback]
The Club have never said it is an "open sale".

The sale cannot be "marketed properly": the Club cannot offer sales to the general public without breaking Company Law.

Asking the Club (or any privately limited company) to take some cash off you and give you some shares is "a lot to ask for". It's like going into Boots without a prescription and asking them to sell you some Diazepam.


I couldn't agree more-Boots have really gone downhill-much better to use the local Pharmasist.
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 8 2008, 05:37 PM) [snapback]509304[/snapback]
YAWN....... "if you don't agree with me you must be in Dougie's pocket......." C'mon, auld yin, you've been using that gambit for far too long now.

Show some originality, man!!

I'm sorry-that was very cheap.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 18:10:42
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 8 2008, 05:41 PM) [snapback]509307[/snapback]
.....a fate worse than Dr Death.......

I can imagine it now - "Will this be sore?" "Errr, WAS it??" laugh.gif

My cellar holds many surprises.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 18:37:03
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 8 2008, 05:33 PM) [snapback]509303[/snapback]
Well said sir - you're spot on (or is that someone else on here??) unsure.gif

But yes, you're bang on the money.

Hey Ronnie, ask yer friend Big Doc
How nice it is to sook Jag's c*ck. wub.gif

QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 8 2008, 05:58 PM) [snapback]509314[/snapback]
Spot ton I've had my full name view (under my avatar) on this public forum for months now and a picture of me is in my profile. 90% of the staff (not players) who run things at Cappielow know me and I deal with and talk to more than few on a regular basis but I speak my mind even if it goes against the grain sometimes, I criticise the club when I feel they need to be criticised and I'll back the club on things where I see them being wrongly criticised.
You on the other hand like to criticise Mortonjag for asking questions, you accuse him and others of hiding behind a keyboard, I'm sure people at the club know who Mortonjag is, remember (I'm sure you will) an alleged club official/insider posted his personal details on this very site but for everything you have to say about others you are keeping your identity well hidden.

I put it to you, either put up or shut up. rolleyes.gif

MidTons-I've had a thought-not a revolutionary one I admit-but a thought.

Why don't we run a wee competition called 'Spot the Dog'.

The object of the exercise will be to correctly identify 'Measles' and publish his full name on the forum.

All proceeds could be donated to the Trust put in a sealed brown envelope marked 'Youth Development' --- FAO Mr Rae.

There's just a wee hitch at the moment-Measles himself seems to be in something of an identity crisis, but I'm sure the honourable pooch will come clean the moment he realises his Master will be happy.


Failing that, we could ask somebody respectable and respected-say Jim McColl-the fans' representative on the board the Director, to select a name-it wouldn't need to be accurate-indeed he could well nominate himself, or his son, or Stuart Duncan, or indeed Mortonjag-though folk might stumble to the last one being a plant.

It's only an idea-do you think it could catch on? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 18:42:51
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 8 2008, 04:21 PM) [snapback]509243[/snapback]
OK.

Keeps dissolving in tears (7).


Retains! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 18:48:02
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 8 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]509327[/snapback]
I agree with you about service on a matchday Trumpton but this isn't a 'non-issue'.

We need to raise £2M from this share issue, do we do that by failing to communicate basic instructions to people who show an interest in becoming shareholders?

I was going to agree with you but you've been too cheeky recently.

Instead I'm going to say Mr Rae has got this Spot On.

He has FAR more important things to be doing on a Saturday afternoon than trying to raise money for a stadium that probably won't be here till after he's not.

Many more important things-most of all strutting about talking his usual p1sh and polishing his Poundstretcher shades with his clean white hankie.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 18:53:56
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 8 2008, 06:20 PM) [snapback]509321[/snapback]
Is that your best shot Jaggie? tongue.gif

Your powers are weak today old yin, maybe a wee early night in store?

PS. I certainly enjoyed the result smile.gif

laugh.gif

Oh dear Cawstick-'fraid old Jaggy's a bit super sensitive to criticism right now, and doesn't take kindly to cheap jibes, even from respected jousters like your good self.

It was a fine result yesterday, on a pleasant early Autumn's afternoon.

As Jaggy drove across the Nith
Young Cawstick tried to take the pith! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 18:56:46
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 8 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]509334[/snapback]
He wont go for it, but I'll donate a fiver if he comes clean. laugh.gif

Will this be a donation aimed at a specific beneficiary, MidTons, or just a donation to 'The Cause'?
mortonjag 2008-09-08 18:59:59
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 8 2008, 06:48 PM) [snapback]509341[/snapback]
My little Morton world....known in some parts as Reality. You're welcome to visit anytime you wish though, i'll even make you hot chocolate with marshmallows.

blush.gif blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 19:02:32
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 8 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]509345[/snapback]
are both not as one? laugh.gif

Oh indeed-a bit like the Board itself-I used to think of it as the Trinity-Father, Son, and Wholly Pointless, until Alistair hopped on in that blaze of publicity.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 19:05:39
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 8 2008, 07:01 PM) [snapback]509347[/snapback]
i think you've been banned from reality for at least 7 years following " the incident " .

Goudagate?
mortonjag 2008-09-08 19:13:34
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 8 2008, 04:45 PM) [snapback]509281[/snapback]
Are you going to provide statistics or just regale the board with more 'personal experiences'?


Who let you in?
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 8 2008, 05:45 PM) [snapback]509311[/snapback]
Wow, me and Puggsy's dad must be really special people if the police treated us differently from everyone else in Scotland. rolleyes.gif

And I'm not even a mason! laugh.gif

I think it's all down to perception. There can be few more stressful situations than being involved in an accident where someone is badly hurt, especially if it's a kid that's involved, and people will react and behave differently in these stressful situations. I can easily image that some people will perceive the police breathalising them, checking their car and taking witness statements as intimidating and threatening. But I would suggest that in the vast majority of cases the police are simply doing their job in trying to identify the cause if the accident and if the actions of the driver or the condition of the vehicle had a part to play in it.

Somehow I managed to stay remarkably calm after the accident - far calmer than I ever though I would do in such a situation - and as a result I personally didn't perveive the police investigation as threatening at all. In fact it reassured me as I knew myself that the accident wasn't my fault and indeed the speed of my reactions had minimised the severity of it, and that would be confirmed by their investigations.

It wasn't until several days after the accident that the reality of how close I'd come to killing another human being - and a kid at that - really struck home, and then it took me a ages to get over it.

I used to get those feelings on the way home every working day.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 19:15:35
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Sep 8 2008, 05:56 PM) [snapback]509313[/snapback]
Thanks midTONs.

HMS Willow posting from the Nordic region of the world and online only for two mins with ONE HUGE f***ING SMILE ON MY FACE !!!!

WILLY MAN GOT HIS HOLE FOLKS
mortonjag 2008-09-08 19:17:58
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 8 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]509351[/snapback]
Indeed. I still can't believe one man could cause so much trouble Using just some cheese, a cardboard cutout of Ronald Mcdonald and a January 1978 copy of Playboy.

BTW have you heard-Willy Man got his hole?
mortonjag 2008-09-08 19:41:35
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 8 2008, 07:22 PM) [snapback]509356[/snapback]
Think he needs to come visit me in reality aswell. Better get the family size pack of marshmallows in stock.

They're good value in Lidl's.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 19:52:12
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 8 2008, 06:30 PM) [snapback]509329[/snapback]
To help stop you from coming over as an obnoxious Tory snob, for I'm sure wasn't your intention, could explain exactly a 'Glasgow ethos' is? rolleyes.gif

It's quite simple and it's based on generations of 'on the make' leftie cooncillors pandering to the notion that the needs of the educationally 'disadvantaged' must take priority over education.

Does that make me an obnoxious Tory snob too, even when I don't flaunt my capitalism with a signature which advertises a holiday villa? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 19:58:22
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 8 2008, 07:55 PM) [snapback]509364[/snapback]
You're all completely mad. rolleyes.gif

Rabies McArthur-spreading East from Inverclyde and currently doing birlies roon the Whirlies.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 20:48:20
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 8 2008, 08:08 PM) [snapback]509369[/snapback]
Have we had our zenith at Hibs?

laugh.gif

I'd not be surprised if we go all the way to the final! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 20:50:08
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Sep 8 2008, 08:10 PM) [snapback]509370[/snapback]
My real names Hugh but i preferred Herr Scott but I changed it to Gary Glitter to become more popular in Inverclyde.

ERSE CAUGHT?
mortonjag 2008-09-08 20:57:25
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 8 2008, 08:10 PM) [snapback]509371[/snapback]
Just trying to earn an honest bob or two to keep the wolf from the door MJ, we don't all have a doctor's pension to live on you know.

Surely you don't begrudge me that now, do you? biggrin.gif

And to show there's no hard feelings on my part the greenockmorton.net discount extends to you too. wink.gif

I'm not the begrudging type! angel.gif

QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 8 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]509372[/snapback]
BTW..... just to clarify something first...... you're not incontinent, are you? unsure.gif

Only of urine.

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 8 2008, 08:52 PM) [snapback]509398[/snapback]
He's not got a doctors's pension....he's got millions.
And I'm not a 'miserable sod'. mad.gif

Millions of em!
mortonjag 2008-09-08 21:02:12
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Sep 8 2008, 08:58 PM) [snapback]509411[/snapback]
Aye. I was so excited I got very carried away laugh.gif

Are you about to bang her in Stavanger?
mortonjag 2008-09-08 21:07:15
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Sep 8 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]509419[/snapback]
cool.gif She assured me she had got rid of AIDS.

I think I've met her! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 21:12:30
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Sep 8 2008, 08:52 PM) [snapback]509397[/snapback]
the jag has a c*** ??? laugh.gif on your forehead maybe. You still not getting out much laugh.gif

One on my forehead so that folk can see me coming Doc.

QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 8 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]509427[/snapback]
When did this thread get good? i've been bored to tears with it everytime i've checked but finally its heating up.

If i think every single one of you is an arsehole from behind my keyboard then thats my perogative, as thats the whole point of an internet forum. The fact people get so worked up over and over again because someone they dont know, will never meet and dont like says something on this board is ridiculous. I like MJ, maybe thats because i dont read half his posts, if i see something about Dougie Rae then i just skip right past it, its not that hard. He's entitled to say what he wants though and not need to back it up by anything, the same way everyone on here is.

You'd think that he had the views of Hitler the way some people go on about him. Everyone knows the club is run terribly and if MJ wants to voice that all the time then its his choice, i dont agree with some of the things he says, i dont read other things he says but i recognise his right to say it.
All this thread proves to show is that there are some craaaaaaazy people on this board, and some a lot more than MJ.
i think the more pressing matter here is that at least one of you better put out or shut up, cause im gagging for it.

Have you mislaid the empty Irn Bru bottle again?
mortonjag 2008-09-08 21:16:48
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Sep 8 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]509428[/snapback]
Destination change, Im now in Grimstad and been up since 3am due to travelling.

The weather is absolutely horrendous.

Strong gale force winds,lashing it down with rain and on top of that its been a day full of thunder and lightning.

Its that bad weve been unable to leave the Hotel tonight.

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 21:18:40
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Sep 8 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]509434[/snapback]
Well she did say some Morton Fan had jagged it into her tongue.gif

A 1.2 cm mole just above the left nipple?
mortonjag 2008-09-08 21:56:01
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 8 2008, 09:23 PM) [snapback]509455[/snapback]
i think its still in there to be honest, i've been having fizzy sh*ts for days.

rolleyes.gif

Will you NEVER learn to insert-tapered end first?
mortonjag 2008-09-08 22:00:05
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 8 2008, 09:45 PM) [snapback]509480[/snapback]
See, some good comes from having the old Doc on the message board, free Viagra wub.gif

Indeed-free Viagra

free speech

free port ton

free Dutch POUFFES

Free for all- thank God, a mighty free for all!
mortonjag 2008-09-08 22:05:01
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Sep 8 2008, 09:23 PM) [snapback]509457[/snapback]
Its looking a bit larger than what it was when she was 15yrs old ohmy.gif

They were both pretty massive back then! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 22:11:14
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 8 2008, 09:23 PM) [snapback]509456[/snapback]
Now, now, CHC. I'm surprised and saddened that you've resorted to personal insults. I've always thought of you as a 'master debater'. laugh.gif

laugh.gif

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 8 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]509469[/snapback]
Not more of a cunning linguist? rolleyes.gif

laugh.gif


He's a clicking literist.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 22:13:54 Imminent brathump! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 22:17:43
QUOTE(forza ton @ Sep 7 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]508798[/snapback]
you should see my nephew simon play!!!!!! just turned 14 and plays for morton pro youth. if there's any justice in the universe this boy will wear the hoops. i've never seen anyone with so much natural talent and his attitude is exemplary. he doesn't come on here so he won't see me raving about him but my god that boy has talent. he had a wee injury there but he'll be better in no time. go simon! biggrin.gif

Simon Forza?
mortonjag 2008-09-08 22:30:55
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Sep 8 2008, 09:12 PM) [snapback]509442[/snapback]
I watched his semi on Sat / Sunday and hoping to catch it on Eurosport later, if its on over here.

I take it Sir Cliff was in the audience.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 07:53:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 9 2008, 12:31 AM) [snapback]509516[/snapback]
Why don't we run a wee competition called 'Spot the Dog'.

Wot if/when DDFR wins ?

blink.gif

He gets to keep his pet.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 07:56:46 Whatever became of Rowan Alexander, Mileson, and the Llamas?
mortonjag 2008-09-09 07:59:01
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 8 2008, 03:17 AM) [snapback]508989[/snapback]
Hopefully now we have an under 19's ( at long last , thanks to DI nd DC ) these lads won't simply be lost to us . This is the team who have got the benefit of playing at their age group as a team since under 15's .

This should be the start but I won't be truly satisfied until we get 5 teams 3 at development with the SFA .
An under 13's straight from first touch , an under 14's and 15's . Then the 2 senior youth teams at 17's and 19's .

Have you written to Spotty and the Club?
mortonjag 2008-09-09 08:02:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 9 2008, 07:59 AM) [snapback]509553[/snapback]
Gidday doctor,

Why is chocolate for bad for dogs ?

blink.gif

It makes them acutely paranoid? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 08:04:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 9 2008, 12:43 AM) [snapback]509518[/snapback]
Where's Spotty ?

Maybe it WAS rabies after all.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 08:07:20
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 8 2008, 10:55 PM) [snapback]509499[/snapback]
And this is why Scots will never get the recognition of being Scottish when we are still part of the UK mad.gif

Andy Murray - England's greatest Scotsman?

Indeed Spurtle, and the English are welcome to take the tramp brat and teach it some good old British dress sense and stiff upper lippedness.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 08:50:52
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 9 2008, 08:27 AM) [snapback]509560[/snapback]
Mileson was recently unmasked as the third llama. No idea about Alexander though.

Now a Tibetan sports journo for the Daily Llama.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 08:54:40
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 9 2008, 08:25 AM) [snapback]509559[/snapback]
I'm sick of you!!!! You're on ignore from now on!! mad.gif
Why is there a campaign to unmask Spotty? Why not a campaign to unmask MJ? In fact my name isn't actually Davie McArthur. I've stolen his identity. DM is a multi-talented millionaire with a 20 inch penis who flies stealth type missions undercover for the government so I thought I would impersonate him on here. My real name is Peter Weatherson.

All is explained! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 09:08:26
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 9 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]509565[/snapback]
I'm working on the assumption that Irnbru contacted Morton to enquire about purchasing shares which would surely avoid the situation highlighted in your post?

A courtesy call to say 'thanks for the enquiry here's what you need to do' would've taken 5 minutes.

Mortonjag heard a wee whisper-only a whisper mind-which suggested that a certain Chief Executive indicated to a certain respectable fan that his measly £60 was totally unacceptable, which made him feel embarrassed and devalued.

Had Mortonjag been treated in a similar manner he would probably have cried himself to sleep before preparing a twenty page letter for the Tilly not to publish, a three line e-mail in beginners' English for the Club not to read, and a Molotov c*cktail for the first big tall fat ugly smoking bitch he encountered within fifty yards of Sinclair St.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 09:17:40
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 9 2008, 08:14 AM) [snapback]509558[/snapback]
Will that improve his tennis ?

dress sense and stiff upper lippedness seem rare in tennis these days.

....and more's the pity! Standards and knickers are down everywhere. I blame God in the first instance, though money has much to answer for.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 09:23:52
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 9 2008, 08:33 AM) [snapback]509561[/snapback]
I've always said that the problem lies with right wing economics and soft left social policy. Only when these are reversed will we see proper change.

I'd like to see every family with three acres and a cow.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 09:32:35 Andy Murray is today officially Scottish again, and that's a shame. I much prefer British brattishness wrapped up in his Union Flag like the true sportsman spoilt little Mummy's darling he is. rip.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 10:16:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 9 2008, 10:00 AM) [snapback]509597[/snapback]
... and a letter to AD and/or the Trust ?

A letter to AD c/o the Trust? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 10:20:52
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Sep 9 2008, 09:46 AM) [snapback]509589[/snapback]
Yeah my colleague saw the body this morning. Police were putting up a tent to cover it up. Appears to have jumped

sad.gif sad stuff

Is it dead?
mortonjag 2008-09-09 10:22:45
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 9 2008, 09:44 AM) [snapback]509588[/snapback]
I've got the cow and she's given me two acres to get on with... blink.gif

smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 10:30:11 I reckon I've reached a stage when I can honestly say I'm reasonably contented with my lot.

It wasn't always so.

In many ways I have 'less' now than I had in my thirties and forties-certainly less ambition and less materialism.

I've discovered that contentment has little to do with money, and much to do with a stress free and loving environment.

Does anyone agree?
mortonjag 2008-09-09 10:33:19
QUOTE(Boutros @ Sep 9 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]509613[/snapback]
What is the point in your existence?
Also, Evan Tanner was found dead today, for anyone interested.

That's a confusing question-is it rhetorical?
mortonjag 2008-09-09 10:36:53
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 9 2008, 10:15 AM) [snapback]509602[/snapback]
By the way, you must have been really, really slow on Sunday as I did'nt see you in my rear view mirror at all!!

I was late leaving-had to sign several autographs! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 10:41:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 9 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]509606[/snapback]
Is the Trust handling his fan mail ?

blink.gif

I don't think he has any fans.

Why don't you write to Measles-he will know.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 10:44:49 I'm sure our thoughts are with the families of all of today's dead bodies.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 11:01:02
QUOTE(Boutros @ Sep 9 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]509626[/snapback]
Agree that the obvious helicopter gag was unnecessary but in what way has someone's moral compass gone completely awry for thinking it's s*** that someone (respected by a great many, I might add) has died, regardless of the circumstances?

I put it to you that it is infact your moral compass that has "gone completely awry".
I'll take it from this that nobody has any further information anyway.

Which is PRECISELY the point of the 'moral compass f*cked' posts.

I'm certainly not attempting to cheapen a tragic death, if INDEED such an event has occurred.

dry.gif


mortonjag 2008-09-09 11:07:10 A colleague tells me that four people died in Glasgow Royal Infirmary last night.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 11:11:46
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 9 2008, 11:06 AM) [snapback]509633[/snapback]
hmmm, this from a guy who runs to the Moderator when he sees things he doesn't like....... dry.gif

THAT sort of thing is PRECISELY the reason I have a dig at you, Dr Death - it's gratuitous, it's insulting, it's not even remotely funny and you get away with it on here far too much. What you say is like water off a duck's back to me, but I'm sick of seeing you bully people and shout them down with insult and sheer volume of posts till they get sick of the time they spend answering your flow of invective - some of us have lives to lead and can't spend half our waking hours monopolising this forum, unlike you.

Act your age for gawd's sake, not your shoe size.

I guess you haven't checked it out with Big Doc, Ronnie boy. Don't knock it till you've tried it.

You're welcome to sook Mortonjag's tadger any time. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 11:16:53
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Sep 9 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]509636[/snapback]
wit? I didnt bring up Evan Tanner...i commented on a previous post. I put one small comment on and somehow thats a big deal.

I know some folk on here like to stamp their authority but there is no rule against deviating slightly from the topic title.

I havent been disrespectful to the person who has died so i see no problem

HAS somebody died?

It's pure speculation until there's an official announcement.

Just SUPPOSE for a moment that some paedophile has been defenestrated by a raging parent.

WELL! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 11:21:10
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 9 2008, 11:16 AM) [snapback]509639[/snapback]
.......now we know who the old jokes about "it's just a little p***k with a needle" originally referred to....... dry.gif

I KNOW you're desperate to get those big lips of yours around Mortonjag's little p***k Ronnie.

Please don't embarrass yourself by making it too obvious.

Folk tend to notice.

That's not to say Mortonjag's not flattered by your tender advances. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 11:34:05
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 9 2008, 11:27 AM) [snapback]509646[/snapback]
That's only SIX dwarfs. Are you the seventh? dry.gif

mortonjag 2008-09-09 11:43:44
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 9 2008, 11:24 AM) [snapback]509643[/snapback]
I was commenting on the fact that there were about ten replies to this post (can't be arsed counting the actual number) before someone expressed real regret - and then it was about the death of an American fighter. My point was not aimed at thrax - he obviously genuinely likes the guy who died in America - it was a reflection that when discussing the probable death of a local person in what appears to be tragic circumstances - the best that could be mustered for him was some cheap jokes, rhetoric and couldn't give a f*** really responses. And this is not the first time recently that bad events in Greenock are all met with the same apathetic response - in a lot of cases by the very people who claim that we need to get serious about dealing with crime and social injustices. Well, that starts with how seriously we view it, and the caring we intend to attach to each and every victim.

But I better be careful in the length of my post, lest it detracts from anyone looking skyward to the cemetary.

TonInDublin



QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 9 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]509653[/snapback]
I will stick my neck out and say it seems someone definitely died. Now they may not have fallen, been pushed or jumped from a high flat. It may have been an assault at ground level, it may be that something was thrown from the flat it could even be down to natural causes, but judging by the white tent and attendance of Police in various guises it does suggest someone has passed away and they are investigating.

Who has died and the reasons for it can be argued and speculated upon later if that is what people want to do.

Exactly my point Barbie.

Once the FACTS are known, each of us can decide which particular emotions they evoke, and we don't need lectures in the interim on the basis of idle speculation.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 11:59:38
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 9 2008, 11:50 AM) [snapback]509657[/snapback]
I ate the other six.

Like the image MJ, nice big red beard on that dwarf.

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mortonjag 2008-09-09 13:09:19
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 9 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]509676[/snapback]
And on the same basis nor do we need derogatory, insulting and churlish comments on the event.

As it turns out someone did die - facts I have now had confirmed to me by someone who lives there - and as it turns out it is indeed a tragic circumstance - ESPECIALLY for those left behind who have to pick up the pieces, and who, just maybe, use this online forum.

TonInDubin

Derogatory, insulting and churlish comments about a death in tragic circumstances are to be deprecated TiD.

Idle speculation on the basis of unconfirmed reports is also undesirable, and has done damage on this forum in the past (with reference to local people).
mortonjag 2008-09-09 13:13:46
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 9 2008, 12:50 PM) [snapback]509678[/snapback]
Now if you were all members of the Jesse, that very event has been getting discussed this past four or five days ! Get yirsel's in there .......

TonInDublin

The Jessie Boys need new blood TiD! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 13:38:46
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 9 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]509692[/snapback]
Don't tell me you were in the Distribs at Uni. unsure.gif

I was. happy.gif

I was a young SNP Mr Bam.

I think it's a good example of Davie's capitalist socialism, though I guess there would soon be hunners of bureaucrats making sure it didn't work properly!

Such is humanity.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 14:00:41
QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Jun 2 2008, 11:50 PM) [snapback]455539[/snapback]
We have received a question from a member regarding Mr Donald and we will take action on behalf of that member.

I was wondering if Mr Donald has replied yet. It seems quite a long time.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 14:03:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 9 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]509703[/snapback]
Is being struck by a 20 inch penis classified as assault and battery ?

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Are we talking red bearded dwarves?
mortonjag 2008-09-09 14:06:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 9 2008, 01:49 PM) [snapback]509701[/snapback]
Is that not part of the "adults" forum ?

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mortonjag 2008-09-09 16:12:34
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 9 2008, 02:37 PM) [snapback]509720[/snapback]
A sensible man, Cawston, and good advice too.

As I've said before, he doesn't like it up 'im, old Captain Mainwaring!!!! laugh.gif

It depends very much on the owner of the organ Ronnie boy. You've already been invited to my cellar. Are you all talk! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 16:20:45
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 9 2008, 02:19 PM) [snapback]509716[/snapback]
you really can't let go, can you.......

Look at the dates, MJ, the thread died a natural death through lack of interest or through folk having had it up to the back teeth.............. leave it be, it's deid. Naebuddy cares.

Mortonjag never 'leaves anything be' until he has his answer Ronnie boy-and you still haven't replied to my invitation to sook my worm.

QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 9 2008, 03:03 PM) [snapback]509724[/snapback]
Have you let your guard down Skunk laugh.gif

And for your info there are some folk who care and await the answers.

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mortonjag 2008-09-09 16:38:20
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 9 2008, 04:15 PM) [snapback]509760[/snapback]
nope - are you all THERE?? unsure.gif

Yip!

Just did a head count. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 16:42:52
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 9 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]509769[/snapback]
oh - they'd just gone into hibernation (no, NOT HIBERNIANation) for three whole months, had they? Some level of interest!

That wasn't up to your usual scintillating responses Ronnie boy, and the question's been kept alive elsewhere!

Pay attention please. biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 16:45:20
QUOTE(The Skipper @ Sep 9 2008, 04:30 PM) [snapback]509775[/snapback]
Filmed by a guy called Jackie who does the filming for Morton, this guy is breaching all sorts of laws by selling copies of the DVD. He should be reported.

What's stopping you Skip?
mortonjag 2008-09-09 16:50:14
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 9 2008, 04:43 PM) [snapback]509785[/snapback]
aye. Result: TWO - one very large (and empty) one and one very, very small one.......

Don't be silly-they're all empty Ronnie boy. When you come for your tour of my cellar, we shall dine on braised brain washed down with beaujolais, before the real business gets underway.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 16:56:51 In terms of our wee pubic massage board, I'd have to highlight the joyous postings the night Mortonjag was banned for offending the bouncy fireman.

The rebound effect made Mortonjag smile.

I also remember the time Super Nanny put a bullet through the Monkey. The Monkey survived to tell the tale! laugh.gif

In footballing terms-most memorable and not a happy memory was driving back after we blew it at Peterhead. JM should have been sacked forthwith.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 17:01:52
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 9 2008, 04:54 PM) [snapback]509798[/snapback]
HUNners of 'em - but much too thick to give a toss.......

Ronnie boy-I once had a little bear called Crawford Bear. He should have been longer but my Mummy explained he was shortbread! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 17:05:57
QUOTE(EBu @ Sep 9 2008, 04:58 PM) [snapback]509801[/snapback]
I think you find a nice Chianti would go better.

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Shipman-Lecter. That's the Jag!

QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 9 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]509802[/snapback]
be a change for you from your usual - Complan.......

That's what they all thought Ronnie boy-come if you dare-though I'm thinking you've bottled it already! laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 17:10:15
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Sep 9 2008, 04:30 PM) [snapback]509774[/snapback]
Anyone else want to talk about how relaxed other people looked on supporter's buses? laugh.gif

We passed four of them-they seemed well behaved!
mortonjag 2008-09-09 17:14:15 In those days of Jimbo and Jamie swanning about in Beamer shaggin' wagons, it's refreshing to learn that young Griffiths still 'runs for a bus'.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 17:19:31
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 9 2008, 05:12 PM) [snapback]509813[/snapback]
err, naw - not so much "bottled it", more "not remotely interested", tbh.......

Come, come Ronald me lad-you will have the other posters tittering-they already know you have a FATAL fascination for the Jag. The table's already laid-the Monkey takes care of that, and fing has his apron on.

Be our guest-we are MOST hospitable-you'll laugh yourself to death! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 17:21:59
QUOTE(EBu @ Sep 9 2008, 05:18 PM) [snapback]509818[/snapback]
Did it ever come out as to what exactly happened with Alexander at Gretna?

Nope-the proceedings were taken over by the Trust.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 17:25:34
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 9 2008, 04:21 PM) [snapback]509768[/snapback]
http://ibanter.co.uk/kickapps/_Cows-arse-t...6841/22267.html

This bears a remarkable resemblance Dowza blush.gif

Have you ever been HIV +ve or had piles?
mortonjag 2008-09-09 17:35:03
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 9 2008, 05:19 PM) [snapback]509819[/snapback]
you nicked that from the Poet Laureate, didn't you - Andrew Motion....... laugh.gif

Ronnie boy, when you finally pluck up the courage, I'll meet you at your convenience.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 17:38:00
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 9 2008, 05:09 PM) [snapback]509810[/snapback]
If money is not the be all and end all to your contentedness give me 20k so I can be content.

Sean told me you'd already saved that much since you went on the wagon! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 17:41:42
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Sep 9 2008, 05:14 PM) [snapback]509814[/snapback]
I spoke to her today as she texted me.

She's looking forward to me dressing up in a Viking outfit for our next encounter rolleyes.gif

Speed bonny boat
There's a throb in my thing


mortonjag 2008-09-09 18:00:25
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 9 2008, 05:38 PM) [snapback]509832[/snapback]
err, I only get RID of little s***s in there, I don't pick 'em up.......

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Very well, just let me know when Uranus is free of Proteus and Jaggy will send you into orbit.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 18:07:36
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 9 2008, 05:34 PM) [snapback]509828[/snapback]
Quite an awful report but one thing stuck out.
A 15-year-old runaway staying at the house had later claimed to police that the mother's boyfriend had carried out "brutal and sadistic" assaults on the child, jurors heard.

Why do I think a 15 year old runaway wouldn't use them terms?

Also if the parents aren't being names...are they under 18?

Hmm! thumbdown.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 18:18:43
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Sep 9 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]509744[/snapback]
Just thinking it would be a great opportunity for the sponsors to get involved in getting kids along to the football.
If every school in Greenock and surrounds was targetted as well as those in the north of the city in Glasgow, we could maybe get thousands of kids along who otherwise don't get the opportunity.
The pricing of the QOTS game on Sunday probably added at least 500 to the gate and should a Morton v Thistle final materialise a fantastic opportunity arises for the sponsors to really promote 'The Alba Cup'.

I wouldn't knock anything which might stimulate genuine interest in the club. It's maybe just the Diddy Cup to us, but it could be a memorable day out for many a kid.

I know it sounds naff, but Golden Casket could run off a limited edition of one of their confections with Ton pictures on them, to be distributed free on the day of the final to all weans in the care of a paying adult.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 18:22:57
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 9 2008, 05:36 PM) [snapback]509830[/snapback]
See if we take away mortonjags posts, and posts that people have posted with something of his in quotes can we then discuss the highlights of the other 2000 or so posts? smile.gif

Hmm! thumbdown.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 18:27:58
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 9 2008, 06:17 PM) [snapback]509845[/snapback]
if i had to stand in a toilet for hours watching people piss then i'd want your money aswell!

.....but I've discovered that bending in the cubicles is a smarter way of making a few bucks? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 18:33:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 9 2008, 05:41 PM) [snapback]509835[/snapback]
I reckon no one can ever be fully content. There will always be things in their life they will wish to fulfil or accomplish.

Well that is my point of view anyway, however living life is about trying to fulfil these wishes. The more you get the more you want to succeed more.

I suppose that's true young man, otherwise I wouldn't spend so much time complaining about the terrible state my beloved Ton's in.

In general terms, however, there's nothing I feel a great need for. If I won the lottery (and I won't as I don't) I can truthfully say I'd have to sit down and decide how to use the money.


mortonjag 2008-09-09 18:36:49
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 9 2008, 06:33 PM) [snapback]509864[/snapback]
Pictures please! Not of you,of her! Don't need face shots just a bit of cleavage or whatever else she's game for and she MUST be game! laugh.gif

I'm sure MidTons would love to see her doing a big jobby.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 18:42:38
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 9 2008, 06:23 PM) [snapback]509854[/snapback]
Fixed for you. wink.gif smile.gif

This is all becoming very confusing. Am I Douglas Rae-I know McArthur believes I am but he thinks he's Peter Weatherson.

Anyway, I wouldn't have a clue what to do with big Gillian short of raffling her as a scarecrow.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 18:50:52
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Sep 9 2008, 06:24 PM) [snapback]509856[/snapback]
MJ Putting his creative mind to use - you could be capable of so much. Just a pity you've chosen to be an 'outsider'

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Do you speak as an 'insider' Cloth Ears? laugh.gif

Mortonjag has indeed much to offer, and in a rare serious moment, Mortonjag announces that he'd willingly devote as much energy as he does here, and more, to the development of our Club, totally free of charge, if the Club was interested in that sort of thing.

Mortonjag would, however, need certain assurances. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 19:04:26
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 9 2008, 06:25 PM) [snapback]509857[/snapback]
You pays your money and takes your chances... rolleyes.gif

Could you cope with perineal warts?
mortonjag 2008-09-09 19:12:11
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 8 2008, 08:43 PM) [snapback]509385[/snapback]
I'm talking over the next decade and beyond. I know you hate the thought of it, but believe me Gaidhlig is going to be HUGE !

You heard it here first !! laugh.gif

Is this 'Gaidhlig' some illegitimate sprog you've spawned on one of your your rare ventures into hetero activity Spurtle?

QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 8 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]509402[/snapback]
Colkitto is now the Board's Nostradamus.

Verse 4 of his predictions.

"In sheep shagging lands the language spoke
is near to death said the tory bloke
But in sooth he's wrong says mystic col
gazing into his crystal ball
as sure as CHC lives close to bruges
the tcheuchter speak is going to be huge."

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mortonjag 2008-09-09 19:16:03
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 9 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]509881[/snapback]
thats true! although its bad for your arthritis.

I've just patented a new suppository for that ailment PT.

It's to be sold as Bender's Balm.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 19:21:18
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Sep 9 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]509882[/snapback]
I'm neither. I don't have the energy to be an outsider or an insider. I just go to games, buy the 50/50's , occasional hospitality............................................................... oh . and I regularly bring friends to the game laugh.gif

Some of them even come back. blink.gif

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Roll on the day when that isn't seen as bizarre!
mortonjag 2008-09-09 19:28:03
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 9 2008, 07:20 PM) [snapback]509886[/snapback]
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Chan eil mi a' tuigsinn
mortonjag 2008-09-09 20:12:57
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 9 2008, 07:55 PM) [snapback]509904[/snapback]
Or Plungers Putty ohmy.gif

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That name had already been taken Weegie, as had POUFFE'S POTION.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 20:16:28
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 9 2008, 08:08 PM) [snapback]509907[/snapback]
???

Dè a tha thu a' smaoineachadh? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 20:25:37
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 9 2008, 08:18 PM) [snapback]509911[/snapback]
huh.gif

Dè a tha thu a' dèanamh? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 20:31:33
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 9 2008, 08:22 PM) [snapback]509912[/snapback]
It's starting to become really confusing.....am I Peter Weatherson? Are you Douglas Rae? If so you're my bitch. mellow.gif




I am what I am
And what I am needs no excuses
I deal my own deck
Sometimes the aces sometimes the deuces
It's one life and there's no return and no deposit
One life so it's time to open up your closet
Life's not worth a dam till you can shout out
I am what I am

Yours Aye


Nemo
mortonjag 2008-09-09 20:36:55
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Sep 9 2008, 08:31 PM) [snapback]509919[/snapback]
In all serioussness this is something I don't understand.

I shower every morning and as part of that I wash my willie. I don't see why it's unhygenic to not wash my hands after every pee as I don't have a dirty willie.

Tell that to a microscope! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 20:39:40
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 9 2008, 08:08 PM) [snapback]509907[/snapback]
???



QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 9 2008, 08:18 PM) [snapback]509911[/snapback]
huh.gif



QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 9 2008, 08:35 PM) [snapback]509924[/snapback]
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Hey Spurtle-what's your problem. You want folk to use the Gaelic- n'est ce pas?
mortonjag 2008-09-09 20:46:11
QUOTE(Zutons @ Sep 9 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]509917[/snapback]
Picnic dick ph34r.gif

I'd happily sandwich my cucumber between his outsiders but I've heard he's HGV +ve.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 20:51:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 9 2008, 08:42 PM) [snapback]509928[/snapback]
unsure.gif

Oh well-don't accuse me of not trying-back to normal service!

Bawheid's a POUFFE who takes it up the arse from Soapy, Sir Cliff, and Moira's rolling pin in no particular order and sings 'God Save the Queen' in his bath, while tossing himself off, gazing lovingly into his handbag mirror.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 21:14:53
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 9 2008, 09:11 PM) [snapback]509934[/snapback]
Yes we were talking about about that on our bus several weeks ago.

Forfar at Cappielow if I recall correctly.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 06:42:54
QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Sep 9 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]509940[/snapback]
you're right MJ

it was the yellow millions top from a few years back they had to wear wasn't it ?

I'm sure that's right and it actually looked not too bad along with their powder blue shorts-or was it vice versa?

Anyway I remember I kept thinking their players were ours for the first wee while.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 06:55:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 12:49 AM) [snapback]509995[/snapback]
I think the thread in GMST is suffice.

However, it still surprises me that AD appears to chosen to ignore the second largest shareholder.

That's because you are intelligent Newt.

99% of posters don't even know the GMST forum exists- which is crystal clear when you examine its usage. It's a perfect reflection of the Trust itself-happy to bask in ineffectual obscurity, but barking loudly when anyone threatens to disturb the peace!
mortonjag 2008-09-10 07:02:14
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 9 2008, 09:25 PM) [snapback]509943[/snapback]
I see the club are doing hospitality for £30 for the above game. That includes a two course buffet meal plus pay bar plus the usual half time pies, cakes, teas, etc. Considering the cost of entry, thats not bad value at all.

You sound very hungry! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Toby @ Sep 9 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]509954[/snapback]
I got an e-mail about it. Assuming it just goes to season ticket holders that put their e-mail address on the forms.

Is it just me or is Rae missing a trick with hospitality? After all the times he's criticised us, I refuse to go and listen to him at one of these little get-togethers. That's costing the club money and I wonder how many others are the same.

If they could get a 'VIP' instead of that boring non entity-say a local worthy or an ex player to chat casually with the guests it would become 100% more interesting overnight.

QUOTE(Waverley @ Sep 9 2008, 10:17 PM) [snapback]509958[/snapback]
I'm not a season ticket holder, but I have e-mailed the club on several occasions about various topics. I can only assume that the club saves these e-mail addresses for future use, such as notifying about hospitality, etc. i would expect that this would be a normal business practice.

That's indeed the case Waverley, but GMFC is a law unto itself.

I have e-mailed them several times, and failed to get an acknowledgement.

I don't believe they'd want me at hospitality.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 07:06:20
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 12:57 AM) [snapback]509997[/snapback]
As the sole purpose of the share issue is to achive SPL compliance, is it not best for the club to promote the issue in a couple of years' time ?

No work was planned for 18 months and at present there are surely more urgent issues to address.

As the issue is open for 5 years, there is plenty of time to raise the necessary funds.

Or, am I missing something ?

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You're missing the 'Out of the Country factor' Newt.

If Mr Rae were to stop being Chairman today for whatever reason, I believe we could expect to see SPL football at Cappielow in less than five years!

Probably I'm missing something-mind you!
mortonjag 2008-09-10 07:14:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 01:04 AM) [snapback]509999[/snapback]
Why is it "wrong" for an employee of Morton FC to post here ?

OK, I accept that an employee does not need to be a supporter.

But, would that not be the exception ?

For the simple reason that they all have to sign the Cappielow official secrets act, pledge allegiance to the Master, and swear an oath to repel the infidel. The infidel is epitomised by the 'negativity boys' on 'this rag'. laugh.gif

Were there such a thing as a free thinking employee of Raemanov I'd be first to welcome him aboard! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 07:20:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 07:07 AM) [snapback]510018[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

I am tempted on write ...

Spot on

but, I won't.

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oops - I did.

Sometimes you're like a dog with a bone Newt!


Did you SPOT that example of simile?

FAO Puggs-it's NOT a spelling mistake-I don't mean a wee laughing face used to pad out posts like this---

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mortonjag 2008-09-10 07:30:46
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 07:22 AM) [snapback]510022[/snapback]
Are there no infidels from Love Street ?

Are they just Middenites ?

Puggs will inform you it's 'midnight' Newt!

With regard to my previous post, remember Allan McGraw has never been back to Cappielow since Rae became Manager.

That gives a very clear insight into the mentality of the sugar boiler. Those who are not totally for him MUST be against him.

Some have mentioned a 'siege mentality'.

I sincerely believe that GMFC backroom employees all suffer from the same personality problem, which I won't specify in order to avoid offence.

Suffice to say that they all appear to think Mr Rae is the best thing since sliced bread! laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 07:35:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 07:16 AM) [snapback]510020[/snapback]
The current share is not underwritten, is it ?

Perhaps its primary short term benefit is to give a feel good factor to those supporters, who want to join the list of minority shareholders ?

Then GC and AD can contribute, when appropriate, in 2010 or 2011 or ?

I believe AD was used in January (with some initial compliance) as a publicity stunt when our fortunes were at a low under Rae/JM.

I agree that the share issue has generated some hope. I simply see it as a holding measure by AD and his buddy pending the unpredictable departure of the Sugar Daddy.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 07:38:25
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 07:29 AM) [snapback]510024[/snapback]
I got good service from the previous commerical manager.

Was his name - Norris ?

Goods arrived in less than a week.

I believe he was sacked for using first class stamps.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 07:41:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 07:37 AM) [snapback]510027[/snapback]
piper

pays

calls

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Suffice to say that they all appear to think Mr Rae is the best thing since sliced bread!
perhaps they know which side their bread is buttered ?

Every time I've mentioned Hitler in this context folk have got upset-so I won't.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 08:03:40
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 07:39 AM) [snapback]510029[/snapback]
... he has a mate who supports the Midden ??

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They both have a passing interest in Au + e + lo +X and her three mates!
mortonjag 2008-09-10 08:06:14
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 07:43 AM) [snapback]510031[/snapback]
Don't use first class stamps for second class supporters ?

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Don't use stamps at all and let them foot the bill.

Have you ever been asked to foot a bill for Morton, Newt?
mortonjag 2008-09-10 08:09:54
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 9 2008, 09:42 PM) [snapback]509949[/snapback]
after

Jobberies and cream?
mortonjag 2008-09-10 08:11:50
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Sep 9 2008, 10:49 PM) [snapback]509971[/snapback]
I have contentment in my life, i have 2 kids (one of each), i do the job i wanted to do as a wee boy and they pay my handsomely for the privilege, no big dramas in my life.

Do you drive a fire engine?
mortonjag 2008-09-10 08:22:05
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 9 2008, 09:49 PM) [snapback]509950[/snapback]
Reports today in the Sun (i know I know) about Kylie thinking of turning Lesbo because she can't find a boyfriend.

Surely you are either gay (lesbo) or not. You don't just say I think I'll become a lesbo ? Or is this a woman thing ? Can women change sexually when they want to ?

I mean, if I couldn't get a girlfriend for a few months or so, I'm not going to wake up one morning and say, " I can't get a burd, so I think I'll go and suck some guy off today" blink.gif

Spurtle-your childlike simplicity sometimes makes me want to give you a big cuddle!

Just suppose for a moment you thought you'd shagged Kylie (and had your best orgasm in years) before the blindfold was removed to reveal the dripping wet keech spattered arse of a beaming Sir Cliff.

Wouldn't you still have enjoyed yourself?


So if wee Kylie wants happiness from a tongue, sweet caresses, and a 375 b.h.p. diesel dildo, who are we to disagree? She clearly finds that infinitely preferable to some shrivelled and saltire tattooed worm.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 08:33:34
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 10 2008, 08:20 AM) [snapback]510047[/snapback]
I tend to agree. The last four months for me have been brutal - I've started taking panic attacks - something which I gave my ex-wife little comfort over when she suffered them, and by jesus - has that come back to haunt me.

They are truly frightening things, and based on all of the literature I can get my hands on, at the root of it all is stress. Strangely though, it kicked in at my trip in San DIego in June this year, which coincidentally saw me have a similar issue two years ago - which then went away and came back- I thought it might have had to do with being on the twelve hour flight - something to do with my ears/balance (Initial feeling is one of dizziness/imbalance, especially when speaking to audiences) so I went to several quacks who prescribed two sets of s***e that did nothing, before researching this myself and basically self diagnosing - later confirmed by my quack.

Truly horrible- and I know (pray) they will go away one day as fast as they appeared - but I'd trade a pile of my wages now for the contentment I had before - I've effectively stopped refereeing - from refereeing at the highest level here, certain places set it off so I avoid them, and all in all it's a s***e state of affairs.

So yes MJ, I would agree - leave me enough to get comfortably by on, keep the rest and giv eme my life back, stress free and enjoyable.

TonInDubin

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Laughing at the bold type TiD!


You've been driving yourself too hard Johnny Boy! It's as simple as that!

You're probably mildly obsessive/compulsive and set yourself extremely difficult targets which MUST be hit!

I've been there too. I never suffered the panic attacks, but the workaholism didn't help my marriage, even if they grabbed every penny with glee.

Sit down and work out the real priorities-even if it means downsizing in certain aspects of your life.

Try to get over to Scapa more often for example-there's an excellent starter!
mortonjag 2008-09-10 09:22:54
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 10 2008, 08:52 AM) [snapback]510061[/snapback]
You're probably right MJ - need some good old Morton viewing to getstress otu of my life - aye right !!!!
I end up going bananas sitting in the room on a Saturday on the webcast - imagine being there in person !

I don't do things by half - so you're spot on with your analysis - unlike the two f***wits I spoke to over here.
I rushed from a high level meeting at work to the first doc (twenty mins door to door to make the appointment) - he says your blood pressure is high - 140/90 - so prescribes beta blockers. Which only make the next two weeks compeltely unbearable - includng not being able to travel to Israel when I nearly collapsed at the airport.

Back to another quack - "of course your blood pressure was higher, you just ran here from a meeting at work, and by the way we don't treat anything as low as 140/90 in Ireland - the locum was from South Africa - should never have prescribed beta blockers, and they will take time to come out of your system as well - now, oh, let me see now - fear of flying is it - (errr, no you dick !) - here take these Xanax, only use them if you're flying - you'll be grand - arsehole !
Eight tablets and good luck to me.

At €60 a visit - wankers.

Did self assessment of symptoms, spoke to few people I knew, did research and went back to him with full list of symptoms, material I had researched, and how I felt. Solution - you're right enough. Well f*** me, how did I not spot that. Here's another twenty bennies, take em if you need 'em. As useful as tits on a bull.

Anyway, getting a bit better as the weeks progress - only had to take four tablets in last eight weeks - using an excellent piece of literature I bought to understand/combat this - and someone has put me on to something called Rescue Remedy - which I've bought but not used - trying not to medicate this away.

Strangely enough -with two pints in you - the world is good - the old neurons flow perfectly in balance then - so we'lll keep the head down and plough on. But if however you have the secret solution don't be shy in sharing MJ !!!!!

TonInDublin

My diagnosis is that the Ton need your input at Cappielow. I believe that would coincide with an upturn in our fortunes! blush.gif


In my case TiD, the train eventually just hit the buffers. I don't intend to elaborate on the forum, but events overtook me and I was forced to re-address life's priorities.

I'm not skint, but I live in a relatively humble wee flat with a relatively new partner who fortunately is as unambitious as I used to be the opposite. I could easily go back to work-I'm not nearly as old and decrepit as some imagine, but I deliberately avoid the stress.

I genuinely live one day at a time which is a luxury I couldn't enjoy for nigh on forty years. I never worry about tomorrow-let's face it tomorrow never comes anyway. I do a wee bit of voluntary counselling-sometimes I get battered into a DIY project- and if I start to get restless I go for a walk, or strum my guitar.

Once in a while I log onto this forum. That's the part of my insanity which seems chronic and incurable! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 09:30:14
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 09:27 AM) [snapback]510066[/snapback]
As mortonjag was driving down the M8, his car phone rang.

Answering his phone he heard his wife's voice urgently warning him, "MJ, I just heard on the news that there's a car going the wrong way the M8. Please be extra careful!"

"Hell," said MJ, "It's not just one car. It's hundreds of them !!!"

....and they're ALL WRONG! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 09:36:09
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 09:29 AM) [snapback]510067[/snapback]
Ms Dylan told Stern she would submit to a gynecological examination and lie detector test to prove she was really a virgin.

Gidday Trick,

Would you like to do the testing ?


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A precise diagnosis of virgo intacta is impossible in 90% of women who claim not to have had sexual intercourse.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 09:38:03 From today's Herald
mortonjag 2008-09-10 09:40:30
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 08:10 AM) [snapback]510039[/snapback]
you could be ... just right

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mortonjag 2008-09-10 09:42:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 08:12 AM) [snapback]510042[/snapback]
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... and the lad is now playing in the Premier League.

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So much for JM's assessment-or was it his? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 09:45:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]510069[/snapback]
Is that why the US government banned sliced bread after Pearl Harbour ?

The ban was ordered by Claude R. Wickard, who held the position of Food Administrator, and took effect on January 18th, 1943.

Any relation to Claude R. Crutch?
mortonjag 2008-09-10 09:49:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 09:40 AM) [snapback]510073[/snapback]
A rich Inverclyde businessman sees an advertisement in the Financial Times for the world's fastest and most expensive car.

It's called the Tri-Turbo Convertible Fantasy and it costs over one million pounds.

He decides he must have it and three months later he takes delivery.

Eager to play with his new toy, he takes it out for a spin.

At the first stop sign, an old man rides up next to the Fantasy on an old Vespa motor scooter. Without invitation, the old man sticks his head through the open window and croaks, "Quite a ride you got there sonny - how fast will she go?"

"About 270 km," answers the Inverclyde businessman.

"No way," says the old man.

Just then, the light turns green and the businessman decides to show the old man what the car can do. He floors it, and within seconds the car is doing 270.

But suddenly, he notices a dot in his rear vision mirror that seems to be getting closer and closer. Thinking it's the polis, the businessman comes to a stop.

Then, whooooooooooosh, something goes flying by.

"What the heck was that?" wonders the Inverclyde businessman.

"What can go faster than my Fantasy?"

Suddenly, the same blur comes racing back toward him, and whoooooosh, passes right by in the opposite direction.

This time he gets a better look and would almost swear that it looked like the old man on the Vespa motor scooter.

"That just couldn't be," he thinks to himself.

Suddenly, he sees it again in his rear view mirror and wham!

It smashes slap bang into the back of the Fantasy.

The businessman jumps from his car, and sure enough, it's the old man on the Vespa that's crashed into him.

"Are you okay?" asks he asks. Is there anything I can do for you?"

"Yes," replied the old man, "could you unhook my braces from your side mirror, please."

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mortonjag 2008-09-10 09:51:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]510077[/snapback]
That's why Trick is giving her a lie detector test as well.

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I'm not sure if the Mods will allow me to post a picture of Tricky's dicky! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 10:02:25
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]510086[/snapback]
Gidday MJ,

When did Trick give it to you ?

The picture I mean.

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I don't have a specific picture of Tricky's penis, but I've read his posts often enough to predict its appearance. If I were allowed to post it, it would have to be in flaccid mode and reduced to 10%.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 10:07:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 08:15 AM) [snapback]510046[/snapback]
Did you find anything that Nostradamus said about Morton FC ?

Read 'From the Chairman's Desk' in Saturday's programme.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 10:15:51
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 09:57 AM) [snapback]510088[/snapback]
... or maybe you're being too hard ?

Enjoy!
mortonjag 2008-09-10 10:20:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 10:14 AM) [snapback]510096[/snapback]
Are you saying that she should give it freely ?
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Nope-it should be dealt with wholesale.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 10:27:45
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 10 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]510100[/snapback]
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Or auctioned-

Ladies and gentlemen we now come to Lot No. 66-a 22 year old unused phanny still in its original wrappings.

Do I hear an opening bid-come gentlemen-I'll start you off with £50.........
mortonjag 2008-09-10 10:33:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 10:29 AM) [snapback]510103[/snapback]
She never came back again.

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Tell me MJ, was the Bear's home named Cappielow ?

Now, if only she'd brought a friend, things could have been very different.

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If you go down to Scapa today, you're in for a big surprise! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 10:51:24
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 10 2008, 10:44 AM) [snapback]510107[/snapback]
You're not wrong

I'm NEVER wrong young man. Hopefully you will one day enjoy the blessed inner peace and contentment which accrues from the attainment of perfection. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 10:59:21
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 10 2008, 10:54 AM) [snapback]510109[/snapback]
Can they be reset ? or even have the explosives extracted and used by A N Other ?

I've heard about him too-he's an evil b*stard I believe!
mortonjag 2008-09-10 13:19:07
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 10 2008, 01:07 PM) [snapback]510162[/snapback]
I don't believe MANY of us would want you at hospitality! laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-10 13:23:03
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 10 2008, 01:14 PM) [snapback]510166[/snapback]
....which brings me back to my original point - why resurrect it here after three months of non-interest?? You say YOURSELF it's ongoing elsewhere, so to try to breathe life into it here when no-one had added a post in all that time is about as pointless as a luminous sundial....... dry.gif

....which brings Mortonjag to a point, and Mortonjag quotes a fellow poster:


'If I started a thread titled Ron Number is a Thumper it would still be relevant in a years time...oh wait maybe not because you will have scrapped your alias by then and everyone will have forgotten about you'.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 13:25:50
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 10 2008, 12:24 PM) [snapback]510147[/snapback]
Newton, you've been away too long. Our cars still do miles per hour, not kilometres....

Mine does both!
mortonjag 2008-09-10 13:43:42
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 10 2008, 11:09 AM) [snapback]510119[/snapback]
What an interesting thread.

I've a theory - which I'll concede now may well be a complete load of pish - that if you're truly content within yourself then you wouldn't feel the need to take mind altering drugs (including alcohol) to 'improve' the state of your mind.

I don't necessarily mean you need to be tea-total to be content, I mean that if your truly content then you wouldn't drink alcohol for the sole purpose of getting drunk.

In preparation for being shot down in flames I'm putting my flak jacket on now. blush.gif

Do you mean once a night, once a week, or just when the Ton win the Scottish cup?

QUOTE(leyTON @ Sep 10 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]510133[/snapback]
i agree with puggs
your life isnt great if you are content, as you have no desire for any improvement
even minimal improvements like watching the tv

Again the perception of a youngster. I understand where you're coming from. The beauty of 'having no desire for 'improvement', is in acceptance of the status quo rather than frustration by it.

Contented people do not by definition reject what might be perceived as an 'enhancement' of their lot, should that arrive on the doorstep. It just doesn't matter either way-that's the whole point.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 13:51:10
QUOTE(.:BrIDo:. @ Sep 10 2008, 01:36 PM) [snapback]510180[/snapback]
Get a life.

I don't know the full story here but if some poor guy is being slated for making a few bob by selling desirable material to voluntary paying customers, he's more honourable than Rae!
mortonjag 2008-09-10 14:31:17
QUOTE(leyTON @ Sep 10 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]510212[/snapback]
im interested in this jim, and im waiting back to hear from a few nates
youll have a pm by the end of the day
couple of questions
is this the chairmans lounge?
why isnt MJ going?
do we get to vote on MOM?
does the dress code still apply?

maybe MJ is! blink.gif
QUOTE(Toby @ Sep 10 2008, 02:22 PM) [snapback]510214[/snapback]
So do I, but you'd also assume all season ticket holders get renewal letters in the summer rolleyes.gif .

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mortonjag 2008-09-10 14:35:32
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Sep 10 2008, 01:43 PM) [snapback]510184[/snapback]
I had a nightmare last night that the world WAS actually imploding due to this thing, and as we all were blasted asunder the last thing we heard before oblivion was MortonJag's voice shouting "IT'S ALL DOUGIE RAE'S FAULT.......!!"

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Our Morton world would already have imploded if the old fud had persuaded JM to stay.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 14:37:55
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 10 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]510195[/snapback]
She must be game if she went for the Willowman? ph34r.gif

You sound jealous! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 15:17:00
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 10 2008, 02:45 PM) [snapback]510222[/snapback]
I was asking a question, don't be naughty. rolleyes.gif Willowman is gorgeous, wub.gif but unfortunately i am spoken for.

If there was no Mr TON would you like to shag the Willy Man?
mortonjag 2008-09-10 15:30:35
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 10 2008, 03:23 PM) [snapback]510246[/snapback]
Now, that's a loaded question. ph34r.gif I think we should all help to get Willowman a lady friend, not some young strumpet who fancies a go at an older man. ph34r.gif We should get him a nice girl/lady. Don't you think so? unsure.gif

Or an attractive and perceptive young woman who has come to appreciate that her male peers are useless in bed and generally skint! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 15:37:11
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 10 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]510258[/snapback]
I went to the Chairman's lounge last season in the expectation that we would dine with our chairman - not necessarily at the same table - but in the same room. Its not so - he entertains the visiting director's in the boardroom but does go round every table and chatting to the guest. I was a bit disappointed to be honest and as far as I am concerned the overall difference was not worth the extra money. None of us could drink enough to justify the extra which I thought I was paying to have an opportunity for an extended chat with the chairman. Maybe my expectations were misplaced.

I've been to all three grades of entertainment and silver is best value. Gold is in sort of a no mans land and the Chairmans is a bit overpriced but enjoyable nonetheless.

I think calling it the Chairman's lounge is a bit misleading and maybe it should be renamed the platinum package.

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mortonjag 2008-09-10 15:39:33
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 10 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]510263[/snapback]
I believe he was sacked for very valid reasons which no one disagree with.

Did he fail to turn up for morning devotions?
mortonjag 2008-09-10 15:43:08
QUOTE(ShimminTon @ Sep 10 2008, 03:40 PM) [snapback]510265[/snapback]
You should of reported Newall to the commerical manager for having disgusting table manners. rolleyes.gif

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You should of gone to a proper school Farrell! dry.gif

mortonjag 2008-09-10 15:54:12
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Sep 10 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]510251[/snapback]
I just can't see it. Us playing say Airdrie at Cappielow on a Tuesday night is going to be worth £100,000 to each team? What TV deal is this - shown live on BBC 1 between episodes of Strictly Come Dancing? Who honestly wants to watch a Challenge Cup Semi unless their team is involved (or even if their team is involved)?

Story of your life?
mortonjag 2008-09-10 15:56:45
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 10 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]510259[/snapback]
So is Willowman...so i've heard. ph34r.gif

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Which?
mortonjag 2008-09-10 16:24:42
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Sep 10 2008, 04:08 PM) [snapback]510286[/snapback]
You're a special man

Oh indeed SH -just call me Crippen-Shipman-Lecter-Fritzl!

You are another welcome guest to my cellar! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 16:47:28
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 9 2008, 11:20 PM) [snapback]509982[/snapback]
Surely the fella wanted books from a University? unsure.gif

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QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 10 2008, 03:02 PM) [snapback]510230[/snapback]
I found all of my Open University notes in the attic the other day so if anyone would like my notes of the EU to solve any insomnia issues they may have just PM me.

Did you find Peter yet?

QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 10 2008, 04:38 PM) [snapback]510295[/snapback]
I prefer " A man of discernment".
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To be fair, I finished Uni in 1975 and didn't chuck my Chemistry notes out until 1995. rolleyes.gif

Though once I had passed my last maths course I consigned those notes to a joyous bonfire. laugh.gif

I have retained my Gray's Anatomy. Munx and Fing like to keep the cellar tidy.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 16:58:49
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Sep 10 2008, 04:52 PM) [snapback]510302[/snapback]
It does indeed look like there's more cash on the go. Whether it'll actually get to anything decent is still debatable though.
I hope there's some wine in that cellar.

The cellar contains many fine wines. Most of the inhabitants drunk themselves to death! drink.gif thumbup2.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 17:22:31 Is 'Human Resource Management' another of those terms used to 'tart up' some two bit job?

I understand terms like Plumber, Electrician, Hairdresser-Confectionery Manufacturer even, but I'm always very suspicious of suspicious sounding titles.

Human
–adjective
of, pertaining to, characteristic of, or having the nature of people:

Resource
–noun
a source of supply, support, or aid, esp. one that can be readily drawn upon when needed

Management
–noun
the act or manner of managing; handling, direction, or control.


OH F*CK!

What does it mean? mad.gif

mortonjag 2008-09-10 18:18:11
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 10 2008, 05:54 PM) [snapback]510328[/snapback]
In 2002/03 (the last season I could find details for) the sponsorship money was divided up as follows:

The Challenge Cup sponsored by Bell's

1st Round Losers - £3000
2nd Round Losers - £4000
3rd Round Losers - £5000
Semi-Final Losers - £6000
Runner-Up - £12,000
Winner - £16,000

The League Cup sponsored by CIS Insurance

1st Round Losers - £7500
2nd Round Losers - £10,500
3rd Round Losers - £17,500
4th Round Losers - £27,500
Semi-Final Losers - £34,000
Runner-Up - £60,000
Winner - £80,000

So six years down the line, and taking account of TV and gate money, £100,000 seems quite feasible.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 18:25:04
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Sep 10 2008, 06:19 PM) [snapback]510341[/snapback]
How about " Love to Boogie" .(T Rex) . With a slight adjustment we have ...........................................
We Love you Dougie , We love you Dougie , We love You Dougie................................................ on a Saturday Niiighhht

Go on MJ, have a go. dry.gif
Edit to add another we love you Dougie for artistic purposes.

I like that choon, but I'm not sure if Dougie quite fits...

You rattlesnake out with your tailfeathers high
Jitterbug left and smile to the sky laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 18:30:45
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 10 2008, 06:15 PM) [snapback]510337[/snapback]
Yes please

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDPuggs-is it true that you're a virgin. I didn't have you down as one until CHC mentioned it, but it might explain your obsession with pictures of unattainable shags.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 18:35:30 Happy birthday! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 18:54:02
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Sep 10 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]510347[/snapback]
You're the one who highlighted 'supporters' not me.
All sensible suggestions are welcome, yours 'n' all!
What I don't appreciate is you hijacking a thread to have a dig at others.
And I think you received a p.m. from me at the time fully explaining my 'buddy' status.

Love to Boogie is a great choon, think I'll give it a blast on Saturday...

Go on MJ, delete the crap above, make the thread a little more easier on the eye...

You are quite right-it was rather low of me to descend to the regular method used by others to attempt to discredit me, but you're a good chap and the post will be deleted forthwith! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 18:58:28
QUOTE(ShimminTon @ Sep 10 2008, 06:52 PM) [snapback]510357[/snapback]
Proper school Newall! rolleyes.gif Good english.

Speak to Tannoy Man, Mr Groundsman-I merely pasted his original comment.

Do you EVER get anything right Farrell? mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 19:03:58
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 10 2008, 06:57 PM) [snapback]510361[/snapback]
The killie game was pobably the biggest highlight . eally started to enjoy the forum when The Taxi for McInally thread by KP Low poor guy got a roasting .

Low points the thread that made WDE almost puke on the Jesse Forum . bogging !!!

He did, and of course he was correct all along. I don't think we can access the older posts where Rae, JM, Mileson etc were criticised.

Some of the spleen vented against the enlightened would cause a fair few red faces now! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 19:12:00
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 10 2008, 07:06 PM) [snapback]510373[/snapback]
everyone knows that all new posters are stupid.

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Unlike you to be provocative darling-you may have upset Shimmin's turkey keech cart.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 19:16:33
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 10 2008, 07:13 PM) [snapback]510383[/snapback]
i just hate how they can come on here and they automatically think they're as good as people like me, when they have to earn that status.

I couldn't agree more-I got to almost 20,000 posts before people realised I'm Douglas Rae, and even now it's only dawned on a few.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 19:24:40 SUMMERTIME-Mungo Jerry!

Guaranteed to get Mr Rae's feet tapping.

Very good choon.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 19:38:54
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 10 2008, 06:49 PM) [snapback]510352[/snapback]
Both. ph34r.gif

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Mind you he claims she wants another date!

Can it indeed be BOTH?
mortonjag 2008-09-10 19:42:14
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 10 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]510346[/snapback]
Unlucky for 44 Tonne Ton he wont be my first when he gets his paws on me!

And can't a guy dream of the unattainable? Surely that's what supporting Morton is about wink.gif

...and have a go at Thrax...he posted a picture of her first!

Don't be silly-that's what's WRONG at the moment.

I much preferred the jobby picture.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 19:47:16
QUOTE(Malt @ Sep 10 2008, 07:00 PM) [snapback]510367[/snapback]
Yes. It means we will never reach your standard of education and never be accepted by a proper University. How I wish I was a Dr.

I'm sure you do, but not so sure I'd recommend it those days.

On reflection I might have enjoyed Human Resource Management a lot better, if I had a clue what the f*ck it means! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 20:46:35
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 10 2008, 08:22 PM) [snapback]510414[/snapback]
I am Peter.....remember? rolleyes.gif

Yes,yes!
mortonjag 2008-09-10 20:55:30

Youth Teams
The following Youth teams games are scheduled to be played this weekend.

Sunday 14th September

Under 15's v Drumchapel Boys Club
Battery Park 2.15pm kick off

Under 19's v Cowdenbeath F.C.
Battery Park 12.15pm kick off

Posted on 10 September, 2008



The site has been vastly improved.

Keep up the good work.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 20:59:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 08:52 PM) [snapback]510424[/snapback]
and what units of measure do you use for the purchase of fuel ?

Makes it easy to calculate mpg ?

We buy in litres and have to convert to m.p.g.

Do you think in terms of miles per litre? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 21:02:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]510426[/snapback]
Gidday Boozehound,

Wot a delightful turn of phrase.

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If he really wants a sh1t ride I'm sure Spurtle will oblige! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-11 06:55:41
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 10 2008, 10:18 PM) [snapback]510486[/snapback]
It was one of Alex's P7 classmates, Tommy, who was in the QoS section and who told him that some idiot was making monkey noises. Kids nowadays recognise that that sort of thing is just plain wrong. I suspect the QoS support would tell the idiot to stop because that sort of thing would no more be tolerated by most of their supporters than it would be by ours.

I recall an incident at Stair Park a few years ago when a few of our lot let us down, and we were about to tell them to cut it out until we noticed that one of the polis was joining in and found the whole thing hilarious. We decided not to get involved, although afterwards I wish I had done.

The Monkey wishes to enquire as to the actual nature of their comments.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 07:04:09
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Sep 10 2008, 10:35 PM) [snapback]510495[/snapback]
you are always so negative

I don't know what to say....

What the f*ck are you talking about?

It's damned if I do and it's bloody well damned if I don't EH!!! ph34r.gif

I'd FAR rather see the improved site publishing GENUINE news about local stuff than the old habit of copying and pasting stuff that was two days old.

I'll spell it out for you again...




The site has been vastly improved.

Keep up the good work.




No smileys-no exclamation marks-no inverted commas-just a simple statement of commendation.


Do you understand now, or shall I make it even simpler? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-11 07:07:48
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Sep 11 2008, 12:22 AM) [snapback]510565[/snapback]
Doddie,

I have to say you've taken me aback by implying Robbie Henderson is a footballer, and in the same post saying you're not convinced about Alex Walker, IMO one of our most accomplished footballers of the last few years. just goes to show the beauty and diversity of the message board.

I believe Alex Walker was signed as an attacking midfielder, and on his first few appearances a very good one at that. For some reason Jim McInally decided to fix what ain't broke and started to either drop Alex Walker or move him around different positions. JM did this with several players as if he was playing some kind of game known only to himself.

Due to Alex Walker's football ability, he has managed to look solid and accomplished in any position JM tried him in, without much evidence of great appreciation from JM. To Alex's great credit, he has just quietly and professionally got on with it, without the praise lavished on one or two other of our so called utility players.

IMO Alex is an unsung hero and one of the few current or recent players who would meet what I consider to be Morton standards. Robbie Henderson was an honest trier but comes nowhere near Morton standards IMO.

I could not agree more. Hopefully he will get his chance further forward in the near future.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 07:38:07
QUOTE(king_bob @ Sep 11 2008, 07:23 AM) [snapback]510602[/snapback]
Hoping that come January we will have a creative midfielder who can drive the team and also another striker!

I certainly haven't written off Jamie Stevenson. Each time I think of the alleged conversation between him and Scott McL. re. DI and 'big' players I have a wee quiet smile-particularly after the Airdrie game.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 07:42:00
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 10 2008, 09:57 PM) [snapback]510464[/snapback]
Fools. You all know nothing about MJ. Here he is......

I am indeed he, Peter. It will take some time before this dawns on the great unwashed.

Yours Aye


Nemo.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 07:44:21 Some threads are born to be hi-jacked, some achieve hi-jacking, and some have hi-jacking thrust upon them.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 07:48:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 11 2008, 03:18 AM) [snapback]510588[/snapback]
A discriminating Dunooner ?

I doubt if he's ever been Inellan.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 07:51:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 11:58 PM) [snapback]510542[/snapback]
Just for alexp
A teenage girl in central India killed herself after being traumatised by media reports that a "Big Bang" experiment in Europe could bring about the end of the world, her father said.

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http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=629454

Queue jumper.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 08:04:26
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 11 2008, 07:09 AM) [snapback]510601[/snapback]
Exactly, what does it all mean? I doubt that managers (who usually talk drivel dripping with arcane acronyms) know either. They would have you believe there's a difference between 'Strategic HRM' and 'Operational HRM'. On second thoughts maybe there is. Perhaps the 'strategic' version involves more meaningless meetings where even more drivel is talked. laugh.gif

I asked my partner about this-he works for a large Spanish Company called Scottish Power.

Apparently they have lots of those people. You have to go and see them if you've been off sick more than 3.78961 times in five months, and they tell you what happened in Corrie the previous night.

Oh and if you've been very, very knotty, they pretend to be sorry to give you your jotters.


My mate Fraser was a Personnel Officer in a small company on Chapelhall Industrial Estate. Fraser had a reasonably good degree from a reasonably proper University.

He was known and apparently valued by the bosses and the workforce alike-he knew all of his staff personally, and wouldn't have been seen dead carrying a clipboard.

Even in those days, I thought the concept of a 'personnel officer' smacked of superfluity-of a 'cop out' by management.

In many ways I still do.

mortonjag 2008-09-11 08:10:28
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Sep 10 2008, 10:41 PM) [snapback]510498[/snapback]
Last night I had a steak from a restaurant advertised as Italian but co-owned by a Chinese Man and a Norwegian one cool.gif
It was absolutely beautiful but miniscule.

Tonight my boss took me to a proper steak house where the steak was a mere £50, thank god I didn't take chips or veg with it !!!
Now back on topic....

I think you should make it a project of yours to find me a good woman before Chrimbo blink.gif

It's what you do with it that counts Willy Man. Maybe somebody would enjoy a chew at your miniscule steak! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-11 08:13:17
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 11 2008, 01:44 AM) [snapback]510580[/snapback]
A man walks into a bar with an octopus and says to the bartender " this is a magical octupus, it can do absolutely anything " so the barman goes " ive got a guitar in the back, if the octupus can play it i'll give you free drink all night ". So he gets the guitar and gives it to the octupus and it plays it perfectly.

The bartender is amazed and says to the man " okay i have a flute in the back aswell, if the octupus can play that then i'll give you free food all night " so he gets the flute and gives it to the octupus and it plays it perfectly.

The bartender cant believe it and then thinks he'll finally have the octupus stumped and says " i have some bagpipes in the back, if your octupus manages to play them then i will give you the keys to my bar ". Just as the man is about to accept his proposal the octupus jumps in and shouts " PLAY IT? IF YOU TAKE ITS PYJAMAS OFF I'LL f*** IT! ".

Puggs is allergic to squid-it gives him a sore arse.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 08:27:01 The Airdrie game must be put behind us. Onward and upward.

Tight game, ending 2-1 to the mighty Ton. Russell and Jenkins to score. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-11 08:31:06
QUOTE(dazed @ Sep 11 2008, 07:52 AM) [snapback]510613[/snapback]
or Kirn? smile.gif

Though I've heard he's been in Hunter's Quay many a time.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 08:34:13 Has it died a natural death?

When I was a kid there was oose in abundance.

I wonder if today's youngsters even know what it is! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-11 08:43:14 Just enquiring. Things have turned full circle in thirty odd years. When I joined my first practice in the early seventies, the other doctors (all three of them) would regularly have a fag while consulting, and not uncommonly offer one to a patient!!!

Has the danger of passive smoking (as with so many public issues) been greatly exaggerated?

Why do people give me that strange look when I have a drag outside the Scapa bogs at half time?

Fags are definitely-like many other things-bad for one.

How many of you have the baws to own up?

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mortonjag 2008-09-11 08:48:40
QUOTE(dazed @ Sep 11 2008, 08:01 AM) [snapback]510615[/snapback]
after last nights result they are back in their Lancasters and spitfires and on a mission to re establish the 'British' Empire.

Get into those Fokkers.

I presume they won last night.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 09:15:51
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 11 2008, 08:48 AM) [snapback]510625[/snapback]
It's still in many peoples ears, young and old...... politicians' particularly.

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Figuratively indeed, but is real oose a thing of the past.

Is it Death by Dyson, Extermination by Electrolux, and the Homicidal Hoover?

I liked oose.

My wee brother christened it 'pluff'!
mortonjag 2008-09-11 09:18:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 11 2008, 09:06 AM) [snapback]510629[/snapback]
I had a lady friend once, who only had one leg.

That's why she was called Eileen.

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She'd have done well to purchase a prosthesis-though that's just a matter of a pinion.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 09:23:45
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 11 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]510635[/snapback]

The white handkerchief and plastic smile are a dead give away!

Bring a friend for pec etching-you know you want to.

Yours aye


Nemo.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 09:30:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 11 2008, 09:24 AM) [snapback]510640[/snapback]
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How cruel - would that be thread needle ?

I can't belive it could be knitting needle.

God - I loved that shop in Roxburgh Street near the station.

Both my grannies spent hours in hours in there, buying needles and wool.

I must have been 6 or 7 and the pattern called for 10 balls of wool.

I think the wool came in plastic wraps of 8 balls each ... and the dye lot on one was different to the dye lot on the other.

Quelle drama.
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Did they make you stand like a dooley with both arms apart like you were playing an imaginary accordion and wind the wool round them before making their own balls?
mortonjag 2008-09-11 09:34:11
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Sep 11 2008, 09:29 AM) [snapback]510641[/snapback]
those towers were full of dynamite and were brought down in a controlled manner.

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It wasn't true about brake failure on the planes then?
mortonjag 2008-09-11 09:36:21
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Sep 11 2008, 09:10 AM) [snapback]510630[/snapback]
The wee guy looked a box of tricks. He made the Hartlepool defence look silly a few times...before slicing the ball to no-where. Seriously, for all his skill, he didn't look like he actually could kick a ball. If he could shoot, pass or cross he'd be a great wee player.

A bit like Jimbo then?
mortonjag 2008-09-11 09:41:09
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 11 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]510643[/snapback]
Global warming and cooling is taking place constantly and repeatedly. The earth has been far warmer on average than it is now several times in the past, and at times when there was NO man-made CO2. The Romans used to grow grapes in Britain and far further north than can be done at present. Greenland was at one time actually green, and cores from its ice cover indicate that there were actually far higher levels of CO2 in the atmosphere at that time. We are I think coming out of the end of an ice age and that is why the earth is arguably warming, although as has been said many times there is no actual sign of warming over the last 10 years (however ten years is in any case a ludicrously short time period over which to measure temperature trends).

Our climate in Scotland in particular is in fact not so much affected by temperature of the earth as a whole but more by wind and sea current movements. Minor variations can make huge differences - our current wet summers are due to a minor change in the route of the jetstream which in summer used to head further north. These things have happened in the opast and will happen again in the future.

All this nonsense about reducing CO2 emission is as I said the new Millenium Bug. I agree totally that finite resources should be conserved - that's just common sense - but to think that trying to reduce what are miniscule amounts of CO2 in the whole scheme of things will make any difference is crazy. If the climate is changing, we need to find a way to adapt (by moving uphill for a start...). If the Maldives go under, that's a shame but just because some politicians try to blame us for causing that situation doesn't mean it's true. It is almost certainly the case that it would have happened anyway even if the human population of the earth was zero. Blaming climate change on man made carbon dioxide emissions is opportunistic. Oh, and methane is far worse as a greenhoue gas BTW.

At the moment the man-made climate change lobby has the better publicity machine. As I said, the new Millenium Bug.

So somebody should be trying to make his fortune by recycling fart.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 09:50:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 11 2008, 09:43 AM) [snapback]510651[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

No, mate - the Roxburgh Street shop only sold balls.

But, there were shops (the Co-op ??) that sold wool things called ... shanks ????

Then, as you reminded me, lads were ab(used) to turn them into balls.

Is that correct ?
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Yes- a wee bit like this:
mortonjag 2008-09-11 10:06:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 11 2008, 10:01 AM) [snapback]510659[/snapback]
naw ... very much like that.

Including the flecky wool - very big in 1963/64.

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Busty females in flecky wool jumpers, pleated skirts, seamed stockings, and high heels.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 10:11:09
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 11 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]510662[/snapback]
Dear Doctor,

In your professional opinion, would pec etching assist the performance of Peter Weatherson ?

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Not so much as a good kick up the arse I'm told!
mortonjag 2008-09-11 10:18:20
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Sep 11 2008, 10:15 AM) [snapback]510669[/snapback]
wouldnt class myself as a proper smoker as i dont smoke every day, and generally dont carry cigs around with me (although i used to be more of a regular smoker.)

that said, i do usually have a packet of cigarettes kicking about the flat somewhere, and sometimes if i have been on the bevvy i will feel like sparking one up. last night for example i smoked 2 i think and enjoyed them immensely. i feel no guilt about this as i hadnt smoked for about a week previous and probably wont smoke any today.

i have also experimented with some of the herbal alternatives to tobacco, with some extremely pleasing results!

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mortonjag 2008-09-11 10:20:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 11 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]510671[/snapback]
Is it 3 pm yet ?

Or is it only 10.16 am ?

10.19 a.m on my computer Newt!
mortonjag 2008-09-11 10:25:20
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 11 2008, 10:12 AM) [snapback]510667[/snapback]
Dear Doctor,

In your professional opinion, would pec etching assist the performance of Mr Donald ?

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Mr Donald Duck?
mortonjag 2008-09-11 10:31:03
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 11 2008, 10:10 AM) [snapback]510664[/snapback]
... you forgot the twin sets

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How did they get the flecks into flecky wool ?

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From flecky sheep?
mortonjag 2008-09-11 10:38:59
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 11 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]510682[/snapback]

Not just RSI?
mortonjag 2008-09-11 10:42:55
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 11 2008, 10:38 AM) [snapback]510703[/snapback]
I think i won't bother and just wear shoes with toes covered, not very nice here just now. Next topic please.

Is it OK to insert suppositories the wrong way round?
mortonjag 2008-09-11 10:48:00
QUOTE(centralTON @ Sep 11 2008, 10:43 AM) [snapback]510709[/snapback]
Damn........ only read this thread 'cos I thought the topic was......I Am Convicted. laugh.gif

Seriously, though, I also think we'll win 2-1.

OOOOOOOOOOH--I'll go down for you any day darling-you are my dream pipe bender!
mortonjag 2008-09-11 10:55:41
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 11 2008, 10:47 AM) [snapback]510715[/snapback]
I would have thought you might know the answer to that. ohmy.gif

I do-I wonder what others think-there are different interpretations of 'shove' and 'back passage'!
mortonjag 2008-09-11 11:03:22
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 11 2008, 10:57 AM) [snapback]510731[/snapback]
Wrong? We have been "punching below or weight" since I was about 2 years old.

...I know...Morton Chatter with this p1sh!
I'm just pointing it out...we all know your fine and dandy, no mother is safe ph34r.gif
A bit?!?! Only a bit?! You some sort of pouffe?!

Why does that ephemeral phase have any bearing on our potential?
mortonjag 2008-09-11 11:07:54
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 11 2008, 10:54 AM) [snapback]510728[/snapback]
MJ a pouffe? ohmy.gif

Only in alternate posts young man. I like to be ever so PC you know!

Anyway, the Monkey's complaining that he's tired and lonely, so I'm off for a wee snooze with him and fing! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-11 14:16:59 The Monkey perceives that this is the birthday of one of his friends, and has asked me to pass on his good wishes.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 14:21:13
QUOTE(ShimminTon @ Sep 11 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]510782[/snapback]
Not so sure about that Alistair. For example, he was well skinned by the Queens left-winger on Sunday before Chris Smith made that superb tackle to clear the danger. smile.gif

Agreed-Alex is only playing at full back as a compromise-he hasn't the turn of speed to deal with a 'flyer'.

Best as an attacking midfielder.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 14:27:41
QUOTE(ShimminTon @ Sep 11 2008, 12:06 PM) [snapback]510772[/snapback]
For once we agree MJ. It had to happen sometime I suppose! wub.gif

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Just you keep agreeing with old Jaggy and you'll go places you never dreamed of! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-11 14:30:23
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 11 2008, 11:19 AM) [snapback]510754[/snapback]
What could you possibly be implying MJ?? laugh.gif

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I loved the bit that said, 'Behind every referee there's a good woman'.

The Rev McCurry version would need two words replaced.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 14:35:08
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 11 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]510779[/snapback]
The wool factories used to employ people to flick small quantities of paint at the white wool as it passed through a special machine, a troublesome piece of equipment that kept breaking down, and known as a flecking machine due to a typo when someone accidentally hit the "L" key by accident. The wee spots of paint gave the wool its flecky appearance.

Just as blacksmiths etc gave rise to the surname Smith, Fleckers gave rise to the surname Fleck.

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mortonjag 2008-09-11 14:40:07
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 11 2008, 01:15 PM) [snapback]510816[/snapback]
That is the proverbial 6 million dollar question mate. What do you normallly do?

GAY or POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-09-11 15:48:59 That's a complete bummer of a draw. Ross County will have a decent home support. Everything against us I'm afraid.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 16:02:52
QUOTE(briggsTON @ Sep 11 2008, 02:38 PM) [snapback]510856[/snapback]
What was your prediction for Airdrie ?



This: blush.gif


Airdrie beating Hearts was a bigger result than our beating Hibs (unless you think Airdrie are much better than us).

They will be full of confidence and so will we. I honestly can't split the two.




QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Sep 11 2008, 02:48 PM) [snapback]510860[/snapback]
A positive thread/post - I would never have thought it possible.

I'll celebrate by undoing my ignore function rolleyes.gif , and say that if this (previously unwinnable) fixture turns out well, my faith in the current management team shall be fully restored. wink.gif

What a p***k you are. I'm always positive about forthcoming matches! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-11 16:09:20
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Sep 11 2008, 12:30 PM) [snapback]510791[/snapback]
Even if his contract is running out, we'd have to pay compensation anyway. Not getting my hopes up. sad.gif
I can see Stevenson signing a pre-contract with Alloa in January, or even us just letting him go for free there and then. I think his Morton career's over.

And that conversation definitely happened.

And were they miles from the truth?

Maybe Jamie's Morton career is over. He's still a far more creative footballer than anything we saw at Palmerston before Jenkins came on.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 16:20:23
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 11 2008, 03:09 PM) [snapback]510869[/snapback]
Cherry stones laugh.gif

Cherry Stone is blossoming.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 16:26:17 It seems to me that the truth is being adulterated by two opposing lobbies with diverse interests.

If you want to believe in global warming, there is plenty of 'conclusive' evidence, AND vice versa!

It always amuses me when our intelligent posters align with the theory which best suits their own agenda.


I believe things are hotter than they were and I blame Douglas Rae.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 16:46:11
QUOTE(suda @ Sep 11 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]510823[/snapback]
Is that the guy that was man of the match against Hibs?

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Indeed, and the guy who's done very little else all season!
mortonjag 2008-09-11 16:52:38
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 11 2008, 04:39 PM) [snapback]510946[/snapback]
i think he was being sarcastic, old timer. Sarcasm is something that was invented in 1984 by an irish fishwife. Read up on it, theres a whole new world out there, just waiting to be discovered. smile.gif

and yes, i nearly did break into song singing a whole new world from Alladin.

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If only-he has 'previous'-Mortonjag knows the sheep and the goats-a must when you're off on holiday darling. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-11 16:54:57
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 11 2008, 04:42 PM) [snapback]510948[/snapback]
I'll be much better this time! As long as im in Franks team, i think he could break me in two to be fair. Maybe two of me would actually be decent infact.

I'm having your bottom half.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 16:59:50
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 11 2008, 01:59 PM) [snapback]510841[/snapback]
Because you'd think that in 20 years we would have matched our potential!

Morton chatter for this p1sh though!

If big Gillian took a fancy to Kylie, Morton's fortunes might coincidentally improve.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 17:06:28
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 11 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]510822[/snapback]
An unwelcome reminder of what a thoroughly unpleasant man MJ is, this thread.

Ton in Dublin explained the matter very clearly.

Truth is Smegma that your distaste for this gentle old soul has distorted any reason you ever had.

I'd hasten to add that I'd have 100 ThornTONs to one of you any day.....

and I'd offer to replace his skirting boards for free. cool.gif

mortonjag 2008-09-11 17:59:34
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 11 2008, 05:32 PM) [snapback]510972[/snapback]
It's nothing to do with what you said about ThornTON and everything to do with what followed.

In your sweet little head! You're in the wrong place son, and your despicable innuendo won't cut any ice. The Jessie boys were set up precisely to avoid this sort of nonsense.

If you want to pursue your personal grudge, Smeggy, I suggest you stick with the rest of the weasels on the Big Mod's forums.


mortonjag 2008-09-11 18:04:28
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 11 2008, 05:51 PM) [snapback]510981[/snapback]
Ah, of course. I thought it was late 2002... I'd have remembered us playing them twice in the same season, though. blush.gif . Aye. Anyway, Alex Williams. Aye.

Do you make lots of mistakes Smegma?
mortonjag 2008-09-11 18:10:48
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 11 2008, 05:50 PM) [snapback]510980[/snapback]
We're moving from a Little Ice Age to a Warm Period, similar to that of the Roman era and the Medieval Warm period.
In the grander scheme of things it's only a matter of time before the next big glacial event...

We shouldn't allow the Luddite minorities within various eco-groups dictate and hinder the progress of civilisation: perhaps they ought to be carbon-neutralised themselves?




Careful........
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mortonjag 2008-09-11 18:19:44
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 11 2008, 06:13 PM) [snapback]510989[/snapback]
Oh you're back on your fishing trip again, care to provide evidence to support your claims? happy.gif

Don't be a silly child-I just ring the warning bell every time you come over as-----well a sparrot.

Which claims in particular are you referring to? I've remained entirely neutral on this issue.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 18:46:45
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 11 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]510993[/snapback]
Look back over the thread and see if I offered any comment - negative or otherwise - on what you said about ThornTON's injury.

If you can't take the heat of what I'm saying then perhaps it's you that's in the wrong place. Or you could just hit the huff button. biggrin.gif

There is no heat in what you are saying. The calor is in an apparently sad and pathologically jealous obsession with Mortonjag.

It would appear that your unreasonable fervour is matched only by your lack of self awareness. Could that be why nobody ever seems to relate to you on the forums?

A sad isolated little boy with GENUINE issues over a daft old fud who's largely on 'the wind up'! laugh.gif

If Mortonjag wasn't such a stubborn old c*nt he'd ignore the viperous sniping of psychologically disturbed children.



mortonjag 2008-09-11 19:59:42
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 11 2008, 06:26 PM) [snapback]510995[/snapback]
Well, MJ has been oblivious to the outside world since 1983 so that explains why he doesn't have a scooby what sarcasm is. rolleyes.gif

Your wit is scintillating.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 20:15:21
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 11 2008, 07:31 PM) [snapback]511023[/snapback]
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Here we go again. That nugget that produced Loose Change has a lot to answer for. Tell me, when you carried out your wee experiment on what temp steel melts at did you take into account an airliner slamming into the structure at 500mph? Thought not.

I posted a website on here ages ago that debunked all the ludicrous theories like the "buildings should have fell to the side", will try and find it.
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You two are wired to the moon. There's absolutely no doubt that the towers were brought down by the planes hitting them, to suggest the US Government bombed their own buildings is delusional, imo.

I used to be on the side of the conspiracists but Popular Mechanics explained a lot to me.

I agree.

The problem with the 'conspiracy' mentality is that they know what they want to believe before they even think about how to twist the available evidence. It was inevitable that umpteen opportunists would capitalise on their gullibility with a load of fanciful claptrap.

I'm no lover of U.S. politics, and I fully believe they will go to inordinate lengths to achieve their aims, without the need to devastate their own people in the process.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 20:27:30
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 11 2008, 06:43 PM) [snapback]511002[/snapback]
You appear to be claiming that I'm directly or indirectly copying or plagiarising phrases.
I suggest you find evidence to support this - or do you simply not give people the credit they may or may not deserve?

Really.

Remember

Sponge-how much original research have you done into the topic?

Parrot-portraying ideas as though they are original when in fact they are regurgitated.

Do you talk with your friends in the linguistic style you used in the post I cautioned you on?

Here's a wee tip:

I believe that........., because I have weighed up the available evidence. In particular I'd like to cite the conclusions of..........who argues that.......... on the basis of................. etc., etc.


mortonjag 2008-09-11 20:31:08
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 11 2008, 08:01 PM) [snapback]511037[/snapback]
To be fair mate, you've been a bit of a Doctor Doom all season. laugh.gif

AND needs a bloody shave.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 20:32:17
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 11 2008, 08:02 PM) [snapback]511038[/snapback]
That's better. smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-11 20:47:29
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 11 2008, 08:35 PM) [snapback]511051[/snapback]
I don't need to answer to the likes of you, Douglas.
I know being able to form an independent opinion must seem unfathomable to you when trying to pass water independently is your single greatest challenge, but you ought to broaden your mindset.

Of course you don't.

I was trying to be helpful. I've never suggested that you are incapable of forming your own opinion on the basis of others' research. That's perfectly legitimate, especially for youngsters who have little personal experience to cite.

All I ask is that you stop presenting your conclusions in a grandiose manner, and without reference to your sources.

I'd also suggest that you substantiate your allegation regarding my micturition. I have been able to self catheterise for many years, and can still do the Herald crossword in an average of 14 minutes.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 20:51:49
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 11 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]511054[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-09-11 20:58:49
QUOTE(Deego @ Sep 11 2008, 08:46 PM) [snapback]511059[/snapback]
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My Bebo is very large, how do I get it small again? Thingied something on the keyboard and fannied itself up.

I'm not good with words.


Priapism (Ancient Greek: Ï€Ïιαπισμός) is a potentially harmful and painful medical condition in which the erect penis does not return to its flaccid state, despite the absence of both physical and psychological stimulation, within four hours. Priapism is considered a medical emergency, which should receive proper treatment by a qualified medical practitioner.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 06:59:58 It's unpleasant to witness anybody losing his mental faculties.

Perhaps the one thing which mitigates slightly is that the sufferer often appears completely content in a world of his own. That was certainly the case with Billy McPhail whom I met several times, and with numerous non footballers I've treated.

The illness is a hell for loved ones, who in my opinion often fail to receive much support or understanding from our Health and Social Services.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 07:11:02
QUOTE(Davie @ Sep 11 2008, 01:18 PM) [snapback]510819[/snapback]
Gidday NewTon,
it must be only you who remembers when Morton played in an all white strip with blue and white hooped socks, judging by the lack of replies to your truly boring topic.
Tell me, who was the Ton's fourth top scorer in the season 63/64? I have been trying to remember all morning but it has simply been forgotton.
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The tried and tested 'make my infantile peers titter by slaggin' off an 'oldie' routine.

Coming from somebody who freely admits to driving a 1.2 litre Fiat Punto, that's a tad amusing.

Anyway Newt, you have to feel sorry for the kids-they've never seen decent football at Cappielow, and it's no surprise they are so easily bored.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 07:15:45
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Sep 11 2008, 09:56 PM) [snapback]511093[/snapback]
I'd give you a strange look, too, if I saw you doing that in public.

Fag. laugh.gif

I usually have a couple of fags when I'm at Cappielow-it helps to relieve the built up tension.

Deego and port ton are extremely obliging young men.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 07:29:53
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 11 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]511108[/snapback]
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Even with blindfold I would be able to tell a lovely succulent botty that kylie has from the ubiqutious, and frequently desecrated by myself batchelor boy, botty of Sir Cliff

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mortonjag 2008-09-12 07:47:20
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 11 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]511072[/snapback]
Perhaps you, Douglas, would care to expand as to why personal experience would be relevant to this specific issue?
Unfortunately for yourself concise scientific data for climate is available for the last 150 years - which I'm willing to wager is longer than you have walked this earth - hence rendering personal experience a negligible issue.
The case of global warming is based upon science and data, not personal experience.

So all I (presently) ask is that you stop being so condescending to those who are, well, not yourself.
As for your other "issue", my sources are impeccable. blush.gif

As you very well know I made no such assertion. I merely opined that in general, youngsters with little personal experience to cite, may legitimately study and form opinions from the experiences of their elders.

That is in fact the commonest method of obtaining intelligence and growing in wisdom. Those who are already smart enough to respect and learn from their elders and betters thumbup2.gif, automatically gain a jump start over peers who take years to, and sometimes never shake off the inappropriate arrogance of youth.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 07:52:02 Do they look smug or what!
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Looks like Bawheid's just let one drop!
mortonjag 2008-09-12 08:30:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 12 2008, 07:54 AM) [snapback]511175[/snapback]
Well, they do look more smug than the old bloke in your avatar.

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Is he your father ?

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That is physiologically entirely possible.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 08:31:58
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 11 2008, 11:07 PM) [snapback]511116[/snapback]
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Wise move Deego, I was 3 lines into it and almost lapsed into a coma.

Are you in hibernation?
mortonjag 2008-09-12 08:51:49
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Sep 12 2008, 07:02 AM) [snapback]511163[/snapback]
Well I wouldn't know cos I've never read your posts.* happy.gif
(*except the bits that other folk have quoted)

I will not resort to using sweary insults - the tool of a weak mind.

More crap from the mind of a weak tool! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-12 08:56:51
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 12 2008, 07:43 AM) [snapback]511167[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

I wonder if they know why there were no crossbars at Cappielow in 1874 ?

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In those days the Chairman arrived fresh from his sweetie factory, resplendent in Victorian attire and perched precariously on his 1.2 litre Punto Farting.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 09:02:55
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 12 2008, 08:40 AM) [snapback]511182[/snapback]
I don't remember a list....did it include- female with a pulse? unsure.gif

...or just 'any available orifice'!
mortonjag 2008-09-12 09:08:08
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 12 2008, 08:44 AM) [snapback]511183[/snapback]
Disgusting habit. rip.gif

Most people find habits of which they disapprove, 'disgusting'! laugh.gif

Things like:

Homosexuality
Paedophilia
Bestiality
Incest
Nose picking
Farting
Eating with open mouth
Supporting the OF
Chewing gum
Spitting out chewing gum
Pissing on the toilet seat


and hunners more.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 09:14:04
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 12 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]511194[/snapback]
I will probably do both but it depends on how I am feeling after the first. Its a long drive there and back in a day but the league game can at least be broken up by an overnight stay on the Saturday.

424 mile round trip according to Google (from Wemyss bay!)

RAC predicts four hours from Glasgow. I'm reckoning on about £75 for petrol for the return journey. I might just consider it if my brother's willing to split the cost, but as you say, it's a long journey.

I'm still smarting from that horrible drive home after the play off at Peterhead. ph34r.gif

GRRRRRRRR-J Muppet!
mortonjag 2008-09-12 09:17:07
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 12 2008, 09:01 AM) [snapback]511187[/snapback]
Jimmy Wilson

Don't make me cry-Wakey and Russell would have a field day if we had him instead of Jimbo-AND he could cut inside and score with BOTH feet.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 09:24:54
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 12 2008, 09:05 AM) [snapback]511191[/snapback]
Apparently Queens are missing quite a lot of players. Sean O'Connor is still out, as are Bob Harris, Jamie Adams (long term again), Gary Arbuckle and Neil Scally. Jim Thomson may be ok to play. O'Connor is the biggest loss for Queens as without him they have little physical presence up front and that vastly reduces Dobbie's effectiveness as was seen last weekend. O'Connor is a great player to watch, great control for a big bloke, and I think his absence will make our defence's job a lot easier. That's not a carte blanche for them to give a gone missing performance a la Airdrie...

I know you don't get to a large number of matches Alibi.

What has distressed me for the last two seasons is the abysmal home support. When we're away, we all bunch together and generally give the team good vocal backing throughout-and you can quite clearly see them respond to it.

At home the cowshed hardly EVER sings, and only livens up for five minutes or so after we score a rare goal. I'm not the only one who has remarked on it. It would be tremendous if the crowd really COULD get behind the boys from the kick off tomorrow. That would focus their minds. This game is entirely winnable.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 10:15:12 to Trumpton.

You are getting older! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-12 10:48:45
QUOTE(Davie @ Sep 12 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]511209[/snapback]
Do me a favour - if you see me driving it in the near future, please do not hesitate in walking in front of the car. wub.gif



I shall keep a special look out for bored young men in Fiat Puntos! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-12 10:51:15
QUOTE(dazed @ Sep 12 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]511222[/snapback]
Are you two calling each other tools?? smile.gif surely that should be weapons? laugh.gif

Leave Mortonjag's weapon out of this please.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 11:24:41
QUOTE(Davie @ Sep 12 2008, 11:14 AM) [snapback]511247[/snapback]
I'm unsure where you are pulling this 'bored' malarky from, you old coffin dodger, but it is very untrue.

I have numerous things to keep me going, such as long walks in the rain.

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You described Newt's post (which has stimulated many reminiscences by true Ton fans) as 'boring'.

I thought your post was as dismissive and ageist as your current effort!

If I can dodge coffins, I'll certainly have no bother dodging 1.2l Fiat Puntos which move more slowly if indeed they deign to start! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-12 12:04:28
QUOTE(TheGreatestEver @ Sep 12 2008, 11:55 AM) [snapback]511272[/snapback]
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thats right 'cos us kids have never seen any decent fitba at scapa, get real ya old fart, as skinner and baddiel used to say 'old football was crap'

How dare you describe Mortonjag as old!

You've NEVER seen the likes of the Ton in the 60's and 70's.

You never will 'cos modern football's been totally spoiled by money, formations, and prima donna POUFFES masquerading as real men.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 14:23:32
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Sep 12 2008, 01:21 PM) [snapback]511323[/snapback]
At the end of the season Morton did away with there pro youth teams which played in the SFA youth Initiative set up. At the same time they combined both the U13 & U14 teams to create an u15 team to play in the Glasgow & District youth league. The reason given for this was that they did not met the criteria set out by the SFA.The Criteria has not changed but the club adopted a head in the sand approach to it I attended a few meetings in relation to this which were chaired by the Director with responsability for overseeing the youth.The 1st meeting held was about this time last year at which Jim Mcinally Gillian Donaldson and Jim McColl were all in attendance. The club stated that there were in the process of overseeing the youth set up .

When Davie and Derek came on board they where shocked at how poor the youth set up was hence why the chairman announced in the programme around March that Derek had been put in charge of the youth set and changes were to take place. with this season the club would be running pro youth teams at 14.14 17's and a full time u 19's sadly this did not happen.

The result of this has seen boys leave being pick up by other pro youth teams with My own Son being one of them . He has moved to a club that are smaller than Morton however have invested in the youth which has seen them bring boys into the 1st team and also manage to sell the on to bigger clubs.The club have a full time youth development officer with all coaches got there level 4 coaches badge mandatory to meet SFA requirments . they run a community coaching programme along with teams at 12,13,14,15 & 17's with a full time u19's

At present out of the 5 youth coaches at Morton only 2 have level 4 James Doherty and Chalky .If the club do manage to re-enter the SFA youth set up where will the players come from as they have no scouts and nothing to offer up and coming boys hence why boys head off to other clubs outwith the area.

I have followed Morton since the late 60's Bobby Collins and all and have brought my Son up likewise even though I have only spent 6 months of my life in the area so to see my son sign for them was great and even better for him .

Sorry for ramble guys could go on about the set up but no point until the heads come up from the sand there will be no change.



This old chestnut keeps coming up, and every time it does, guys like yourself who seem to be in the know, present a worrying picture of what appears to be more papering over cracks.

I thought things were much better now-that's certainly the way it's been spun.

What's really going on?


mortonjag 2008-09-12 14:31:02
QUOTE(TheGreatestEver @ Sep 12 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]511327[/snapback]
my apologies, mature then

1st ton game was 1979, not 1879 like yourself so get it up you

prima donnas? did that nonsense not start in the 70's? i mean who could foget all those 'real men' with they're curly perms laugh.gif

Well you DID mention 'us kids'!

I think football died a death the day men started dressing as women. In that respect I agree with you.

Had you been able to start watching even ten years earlier, your memories would be ever so much more enjoyable.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 14:35:39
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 12 2008, 12:29 PM) [snapback]511291[/snapback]
I like the way you finish that with a kiss. wub.gif

It's more of a sooking slurping noise I think.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 14:40:55
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 12 2008, 02:00 PM) [snapback]511355[/snapback]
No fags should be smoked in the main stand blink.gif

I can assure you young man that I enjoy a couple of fags every time I'm at Cappielow, and indeed I sit in the main stand to watch the football.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 14:47:36
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 12 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]511357[/snapback]
Alternatively, if your true contentment comes just before the money shot, then you need to practice getting on and off the bus when you start to feel the vinegar strokes.

A good way to help you with this is either of the two following ;

1) just as you're approaching Ticklers Brook, imagine you're about to launch yourself over a hurdle and just as you feel you're about to baste her bastion, stick your finger up your own arse sharply whilst thinking to yourself "why would I have thought she'd have liked that" nb - always ensure you haven't been baking a log before attempting this - unless she has brown sheets.

2) once again, as you get to Ticklers Brook, try and remember the names of all seven dwarves. From painful and humiliating personal experience can I tell you for definite that there isn't a "Comey". He always turned up in my list somewhere, kinda like "Dopey ..... Sleepy ....... Happy .......Comey ......ah f*** ...... "

Again, your welcome.

TonInDublin



QUOTE(Boozehound @ Sep 12 2008, 02:16 PM) [snapback]511361[/snapback]
Not bad suggestions but I find that looking at her face and recognising the familiar look of disappointment usually does the trick for me.




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Happiness is a cigar called Hamlet

Contentment is a five minute bang up any old c*nt.


COME, COME gentlemen, if this topic must involve erections, have a read of W.B.Yeats.

I will arise and go now, and go to Innisfree,
And a small cabin build there, of clay and wattles made;
Nine bean rows will I have there, a hive for the honey bee,
And live alone in the bee-loud glade.............


and the rest! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-12 15:03:10
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 12 2008, 11:28 AM) [snapback]511258[/snapback]
How do you know that time actually flows in the direction that it appears to? It is possible that we perceive the whole thing back to front and we are actually getting younger every day.

....and death is in fact birth!
mortonjag 2008-09-12 15:06:58 Mr Mason said yesterday: �€œThe repeated attacks on the SNP's Councillor Hanif are coming across as thinly disguised racism. Many countries in the world allow guns to be used freely. These include the United States, Israel and Pakistan.



All I can say to that is 'Drop dead'.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 15:14:35
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 12 2008, 03:07 PM) [snapback]511381[/snapback]
Or in some people's view, when you end up getting syphoned up 9 months later, so to speak.

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Anyway, the point of my thread was that it's Trumpton's birthday.


HAPPY BIRTHDAY TRUMPTON!
mortonjag 2008-09-12 15:23:28 I'm sure the Ton would drag along a good 5000 plus.

What I'D like to know is where they will all be tomorrow afternoon and why?

I keep telling them to bring a friend, and they don't!
mortonjag 2008-09-12 15:38:35
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 12 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]511383[/snapback]
ONE of it's main assets rolleyes.gif

Labour have no credible leader, or leaders in waiting. Neither do the Lib-Dems. The Tories have a salesman in Cameron then have a dearth of talent.
At least the SNP have Sturgeon waiting in the wings should something happen to our glorious leader.



BRAINLESS BEARDED BI-SEXUAL-AYE RIGHT SPURTLE
mortonjag 2008-09-12 15:48:40
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Sep 12 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]511388[/snapback]
It is all true and as I said could go on the set up is a shambles

I attended a few meetings in relation to this which were chaired by the Director with responsability for overseeing the youth.The 1st meeting held was about this time last year at which Jim Mcinally Gillian Donaldson and Jim McColl were all in attendance. The club stated that there were in the process of overseeing the youth set up .


Are you telling me that apart from his functions within the privacy of the Trust's inner sanctum, Mr McColl has been delegated this duty BY THE CLUB?
mortonjag 2008-09-12 16:00:08
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Sep 12 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]511403[/snapback]
Don't go there MJ i'm a usually a calm man but get angry with people who think that they hold positions of power

I was just thinking that as Mr McColl is a member of our forum, it might not be unreasonable for someone-preferably not myself-to ask if he could let the fans know how things are progressing.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 16:04:18
QUOTE(centralTON @ Sep 12 2008, 03:55 PM) [snapback]511402[/snapback]
Weegie, we'll need to think of a place that'll let kids in, we usually go to the Ashoka in Ashton Lane, but, dunno if you fancy that?

I'd not dream of taking kids there Central-they might catch a glimpse of Mr Lennon.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 16:10:08
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Sep 12 2008, 04:04 PM) [snapback]511410[/snapback]
When questioned at the last meeting what his position was he concided that it was more of a liason role than anything else as he know nothing about coaching or youth football

Sounds like the classical description of a 'fall guy' to me.

I'd really much prefer if others would ask some pertinent questions about this-people who have youngsters involved, or who could be involved-people who are closer to the coal face than I am.

I can only see it from afar, and it's obvious we'll have no sound foundation on which to build until an active youth programme is up and running.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 16:17:38
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Sep 12 2008, 04:14 PM) [snapback]511414[/snapback]
Been at meetings said my piece spoke to DC said my piece spoke to members of the trust said my piece my boy has moved on over to others

I hope you were not accused of sh1t stirring for daring to ask! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-12 18:10:36
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 12 2008, 04:49 PM) [snapback]511435[/snapback]
Betters?
Douglas Rae, expert in climatology?

I find it a bit rich to take lessons on arrogance by the closest definition of the word to be found on the site.
Or is it okay for some to be arrogant, but not others?

Indeed-much better at almost everything-just as you will hopefully be relative to somebody 40 years your junior in four decades' time.

That's the way it works my boy-it's not intended in any way to be insulting.

Some might suggest that 'rookies' who object to the concept of experienced folk being better than them, are....erm...arrogant. I think 'insecure' is more apt in your particular case. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-12 18:14:10
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 12 2008, 05:41 PM) [snapback]511454[/snapback]
aye, it is a shame....... rolleyes.gif


You can't hide what's inside. Spurtle's willie is two feet long!
mortonjag 2008-09-12 18:19:21
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 12 2008, 04:58 PM) [snapback]511440[/snapback]
No, I'm a simple Cliff fan that's all.

Going by your lack of respect as a newcomer to the forum by instantly insulting other forum members. Also for using the word "nutso" I'm going to say you are about 12 or 13 years of age. So you won't know who Sir Cliff is.
Both myself and mortonjag share a love for Cliff and his music. We go to all his concerts together and have all his CD's and lots of Cliff t-shirts.

We love him !!

It's a three way thing really-our motto is 'form a circle'.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 18:49:37
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 12 2008, 05:56 PM) [snapback]511462[/snapback]
Oh great, yet another thread dedicated to MJ. That'll keep is over-inflated ego massaged for another wee while. rolleyes.gif

And WTF is it doing on here anyway - surely if his disciples want to w**k themselves into a stupor over his pearls of wisdom it should at lease be done on the 'General Nonsense' board.

Be my guest Geordie me lad-they're more shrivelled than last time.

I hope you're not too disappointed. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-12 19:06:28
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 12 2008, 06:17 PM) [snapback]511474[/snapback]
Big Blue Balls is back. rolleyes.gif

Indeed! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-12 19:15:10
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 12 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]511486[/snapback]
Nothing like a good old moan and since this situation has been with us as long as no left sided player or the lack of proper fullbacks it can be classed as a long term problem .

I'm led to believe that JM was more or less allowed to get on with it and blew the money on squad players.

I understand that DI/DC have been handed the remit of sorting out the youth squad, but on what basis?

If they merely have a global budget, they will automatically look to today rather than the future. Managers are, after all, 'ships that pass in the night'.

If the Club really cares about the future, a proper business plan should be formulated with adequate funding allocated to each area of development NOW.

I doubt if the Club has the resources to do that at present-I don't know.

It would be nice to know either way.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 19:22:41
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 12 2008, 05:58 PM) [snapback]511464[/snapback]
I will be going with number three son. If you would like a ride in a nice French motor it could be arranged.

PS two spare seats!

Thanks for the offer. It's more or less a case of go or don't for us-the time factor as much as anything. I'll get a definite yes or no from David tomorrow. If we ARE going I could let you offer your spare seats elsewhere, and we'd have two also for any intrepid fools! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-12 19:27:10
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 12 2008, 07:12 PM) [snapback]511494[/snapback]
Aye - he couldn't help taking his work home with him though. Why he even wallpapered his hall through his letterbox.

Any more cheek and I'll take your tonsils out through your arse. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-12 19:32:53
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 12 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]511485[/snapback]
...but are you smoking them or simply toying with them for later on?

You are being obtuse and confusing me in the process.

I smoke cigarettes at Cappielow.

I plan to smoke a couple of fags in my cellar as I'm tired of salmon and kipper. I may kill them first.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 19:47:06
QUOTE(big blue eyes @ Sep 12 2008, 07:43 PM) [snapback]511503[/snapback]
Are you really a woman?
Swearing is usually beneath my dingity-but feck off old man. mad.gif

F*ck off young man-you're not NEARLY as bright as you think! happy.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-12 19:54:03
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 12 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]511509[/snapback]
Then they usually marry you. rolleyes.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

.....and use up all your MUNNY making you work harder and harder and harder as the shagging becomes less frequent and the bills mount, and then when the sprogs are sorted out they divorce you and leave you homeless, penniless, and with no self esteem as they spend YOUR munny on some hugely endowed toyboy and leave you to rot. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-12 19:59:17
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 12 2008, 07:48 PM) [snapback]511511[/snapback]
Did you hear about the Irish gynecologist? He hated his colleagues but kept at it cos his patients were a good craic.

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mortonjag 2008-09-12 20:00:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 12 2008, 07:39 PM) [snapback]511501[/snapback]
any more of your cheek and ill put my tonsils in yours!

The term is testicles.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 20:40:25
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 12 2008, 08:10 PM) [snapback]511520[/snapback]
offtopic.gif laugh.gif
Anyway, we'll spank the Queens 2-0. smile.gif

Spank the Queen's what!!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-12 20:42:56
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 12 2008, 07:55 PM) [snapback]511516[/snapback]
You know it as well. wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-12 22:04:52
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 12 2008, 08:55 PM) [snapback]511535[/snapback]
Or, on the other hand, 'deluded' applies to yourself. laugh.gif

Goodnight my angel.

mortonjag 2008-09-13 08:22:28 When we were top of the third division, the pre match build up threads used to buzz, and sometimes there were two or three running at one time.

OK-I know we're the bottom of the pile in the league, but we've just humped Hibs and Queens in the two Cup ties. It's not as if we're utterly useless and guaranteed relegation.

There's just no real interest in the Ton right now-everything seems to be 'hanging in the balance' and no information ever comes from the Club.

It's going to be a miserable dull day today, and I'm fully expecting to have my spirits lifted by a fine victory.

That doesn't alter the fact that the damage has been done, and until Rae packs it in, it's not going to get much better. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-13 08:41:39
QUOTE(centralTON @ Sep 12 2008, 11:33 PM) [snapback]511581[/snapback]
MJ, it will be lunch-time, not sure if Mr. Lennon drinks that early.

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I'm just afraid the kids see him-drunk OR sober!
mortonjag 2008-09-13 08:56:21
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 13 2008, 08:39 AM) [snapback]511649[/snapback]
Give it a rest and just enjoy the game today. smile.gif

Thanks for the advice-it's good to know that at least you care for me, but I'm quite capable of enjoying the game without putting on blinkers.

It seems to me that irrespective of the underlying cause, the fans are now getting no more than they deserve.

What do you think? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-13 10:36:42
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Sep 13 2008, 10:01 AM) [snapback]511661[/snapback]
I thought you were a Morton fan have you got the team you deserve mellow.gif

The chairman, the board, potential board members, referees, various players, the grounds man, the trust, the website, any poster that dares to have a differing opinion and now your fellow fans.

Surely that�€™s you got the full set and you can now retire happy in the knowledge that you have slagged off everyone connected with GMFC and proved yourself a vastly superior human being dry.gif

Me - I am looking forward to the game and gagging for a result like last week cool.gif

I wouldn't exactly say I'm 'gagging' for a result like last week's, though I've already made it clear that I fully expect a victory.

I certainly regard myself as superior to apparently educated posters who demean themselves by using totally inappropriate expressions.

I don't exactly see my fellow fans 'gagging' for results-they have been 'dropping off like flies'.

Have you noticed that, or are you too busy flogging the dead horse that is attempting to ridicule Mortonjag's legitimate criticisms of the status quo?

I don't really expect an intelligent answer.

Go on-surprise me.

I'm gagging for a surprise from the Cowal Cynic. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-13 12:03:09
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 13 2008, 10:47 AM) [snapback]511668[/snapback]
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Keep your thoughts on the Quo to the thread already running in General Nonsense. wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-13 12:14:55
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 13 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]511669[/snapback]
For sometime now the other two members of the triumvirate of grumpiness have held forth with the view that socialism with a big stick for scroungers is the way forward. (My apologies chaps if I have traduced you.)

The view is spreading.

This wheelchair socialism has sucked the Centre Left into spending people's taxes on unproductive causes, and associating itself with failure rather than success. Nietzsche characterised the driving Christian ethic thus: “It lived on distress...†H.L.Mencken added: “God is the immemorial refuge of the incompetent, the helpless, the miserable. They find not only sanctuary in His arms, but also a kind of superiority, soothing to their macerated egos; He will set them above their betters.â€


I'm not exactly sure what the author means by 'wheelchair socialism', but I get his drift! laugh.gif

mortonjag 2008-09-13 13:30:47
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 13 2008, 12:26 PM) [snapback]511706[/snapback]
Already a thread on this: not like MJ to copy topics for the sake of personal spite and his craving for attention, is it? rolleyes.gif



The only other applicable thread was started two days ago my little one-----voici:





post Sep 11 2008, 08:27 AM
Post #1


mortonjag
*****


The Airdrie game must be put behind us. Onward and upward.

Tight game, ending 2-1 to the mighty Ton. Russell and Jenkins to score. smile.gif


You will note that it was full of positivity and good cheer.

Mortonjag has no objection to others starting threads of their own. Indeed he willingly contributes to add to their value.

En passant, Mortonjag notes that when not plagiarising his big books, little SPURTLE is frequently an imperceptive, and overly judgemental child.

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mortonjag 2008-09-13 18:33:54 IMHO Smith has the makings of the best left back we've had for some time, and at least showed a wee bit of vision at times unlike our non existent midfield.
mortonjag 2008-09-13 18:38:33
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 13 2008, 05:35 PM) [snapback]511818[/snapback]
What summed it up was when Jenkins flicked a header forward to nobody - Wake was level with the QOS defence (understandably) and Russel/Jim were out wide.

Surely Jenks knew that of the three midfielders he was the most advanced, so what the heck was he playing at?

I'm find with deep defending when it's total backs to the wall stuff, but QOS had enough men withdrawn that the ball was just going back to them, so it wasn't even an effective way of defending.

The fact that guys like McGuffie seem to have an aversion to covering ground doesn't help.

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Our man of the match in the first half-popped up all over the place and looked like the only player with a bloody clue. Don't be fooled by his apparently lazy loping style-see the end product.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 08:41:36
QUOTE(e_f @ Sep 13 2008, 04:32 PM) [snapback]511782[/snapback]
Why don't we have players like that?!

Because we don't have managers like Kenny Black!
McLaughlin's now being allowed to play his football.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 08:50:01
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Sep 13 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]511722[/snapback]
SPARROT

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QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 13 2008, 05:30 PM) [snapback]511814[/snapback]
So why has your thread(s) been merged with another equally relevant, compatible and applicable thread?
There's a shipment of FAIL coming your way - no, not delivered by Saab. rolleyes.gif

Rather stilted start to your sentence!


You know very well that ordinary posters are unaccountable for merging of threads.The Mods do their very best.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 08:52:51
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Sep 13 2008, 07:25 PM) [snapback]511900[/snapback]
Why specifically Lennon, there are quite a few Old Firm celebrities who visit that part of the city? You ever see Gordon Durie after a few bevvies? laugh.gif

:lol

Indeed-I just fear that children are allowed a glimpse of Mr Lennon's face! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 09:03:51
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 13 2008, 11:57 PM) [snapback]512011[/snapback]
Well done to Midtons and Basra/missus.

Well noted that the StAndrews guys took there time to attend even though the guy was out. Also when they did attend, questions must be asked of there knowledge of these situations, as they stood looking at each other, and it was a member of the public that called the ambulance and another that took control of the situation, while they stood there and looked on. Doesn't fill you with confidence

Glad to here the guy is on the mend though.

But I must say one thing...f*** having a heart attack in Cappielow(well Greenock is the heart attack capital of Scotland) St Andrews guys took 10mins to attend, you'd be deed by then

I don't want to tread on any toes here. One of the St Andrews lads is/was a poster who has previously bemoaned the lack of a defibrillator at Cappielow.

Best to get the FULL story from their side if we can.

My only comment at this stage is that the decision to cancel an ambulance is one which should NEVER be taken without accepting full responsibility for the consequences.

In this case it seems to have been the correct one.

The St Andrews boys are not, and do not claim to be paramedics.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 09:12:50
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 13 2008, 09:36 PM) [snapback]511939[/snapback]
Teams can turn themselves around. In 2005/2006 Stirling you may recall recorded their first win in the league in their 12th league match - a 2-1 victory at Cappielow. They went into that game with 3 points from 11 games.

That win lifted their entire season and they ended up with 51 points and almost getting to the play offs. Its a case of getting the confidence and momentum turn in your favour. We have a number of good players who are not producing it in the league and they are losing it as much in their heads as on the park.

To some degree indeed.

I'd suggest that the task is more difficult than Stirling's was, because we have two apprentices on the job-two apprentices who might as well have picked their tools off the shelf while blindfolded.

Anyway, I've not yet given up on them, but it's becoming clearer by the week that DI/DC's awareness of tactics and formations has mainly come from coaching courses, and they are now having to learn their trade as relative 'rookies' at Cappielow.

Good luck to those guys.

Rae COULD have signed somebody with experience.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 09:27:38 The Monkey and Fing are allowed in free.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 09:54:04
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Sep 14 2008, 02:58 AM) [snapback]512080[/snapback]
what a load o s***te that was, As i said at the game the day irons wants his own unique system 8,1,1 (the irons curtain) the first half was shockingly bad but improvement was at the least overdue. when they went down to 10 we were at best labouring,after that we looked dangerous without being really dangerous, our free kicks are almost at sit com level, the core of the team were on the same pace as jenkins, and i thought smith wanted to go inside all game and play centre half, but on a plus side the time wasting was sublime and the sending off o Tosh was nice but for fuxake we have to go for it at cappielow......I'm bored wi fitba..... pass marks probably russell, shimmin, wake for hitting his head of a brick wall and of course me for enduring 90 mins
as a sideline well done to jim mcv and c. mckay for their humanity. Job well done lads.

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Indeed!

Queens were light years ahead of us in the first half and could easily have come in three up on chances made.

Our midfield again created ABSOLUTELY NOTHING-there wasn't a decent cross I can remember in the whole game, and until very near the end we had had two corners.
I'm not going to start criticising individual players. Nobody was outstanding, and several put in rather off form performances, but that happens in football even at the highest level.

I think you've sussed Davie Irons correctly. He's put together a very unbalanced squad-mishandled (IMHO) the Newby situation leaving us even MORE bare up front, and simply banks on being big enough and strong enough to frustrate other sides while picking up the inevitable goals which appear along the way.

It's NOT good enough. That's not the fault of Davie-he's still (I hope) learning-it's AGAIN the fault of the blind and arrogant old fud who desperately wanted to keep JM, and who COULD have signed experience.

2200 at Cappielow yesterday Mr Rae-will the truth EVER dawn on you? If AD is genuinely making you an offer I suggest you take it while the going's good. Your asking price is dropping every week.

mortonjag 2008-09-14 10:02:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 14 2008, 02:57 AM) [snapback]512079[/snapback]
A very small crowd yesterday ?

Wasn't there a crowd of nearly 3,000 at Dumfries last weekend ?

You really MUST bring a friend.

I think the credit crunch is starting to bite Newt!

When folk can't afford to buy cars and three piece suites and go to breathtakingly exciting football matches, they will still buy cheap sweeties.

Things must be looking up for Golden Casket.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 10:14:30 Jenkins came on for the last fifteen minutes or so at Palmerston, and was outstanding.

The guy isn't fit for 90 minutes yet IMO-why was he started yesterday?

The only legitimate question is perhaps this:

Would the said fan have uttered the said words to Jenkins face in the relative privacy of a boxing ring?


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mortonjag 2008-09-14 11:20:12
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 14 2008, 10:24 AM) [snapback]512120[/snapback]
Thats the thing though MJ, they dont have a story. And i have the missus to prove that. Also there were plenty of lads from on here to witness this also.

Agree on the defibrillator though.

p.s. midTONs would vouch for the above also.

They must have 'a story' if they were involved at all, surely.

I may be wrong here, but the attendance of a First Aid team, AND a qualified Medic are pre-requisites in terms of the players-NOT the crowd.

I again believe, rightly or wrongly, that had a player required urgent first aid while the crew were attending to some member of the public at the far corner of the ground-somebody who MIGHT simply have been intoxicated for example-serious questions would have been asked.

Only my opinion. Your wife was correct in summoning an ambulance.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 11:21:33
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 14 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]512123[/snapback]
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Kenny Black is no better than David Irons.

I'm not a member of their bowling club.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 11:23:28
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 14 2008, 10:41 AM) [snapback]512124[/snapback]
Modesty from MJ? Surely not? tongue.gif

'Ordinary posters'-a collective term for non-Mods.

mortonjag 2008-09-14 11:29:22
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 14 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]512127[/snapback]
Wasn't Allan Moore considered an 'apprentice' when he was in charge of Stirling at that time?

Not by me.

In any case my argument was based not just on apprenticeship, but in the selection of tools! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 11:30:58
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 14 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]512109[/snapback]
As guests of yourself Douglas?

Yes, yes, Peter.

You turned up very late yesterday!
mortonjag 2008-09-14 11:36:48
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 14 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]512132[/snapback]
The answer being: 'Of course not'.

I'd imagine that Jenkins started due to Masterton's absence. Needs must, I suppose.


WTF was he!
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 14 2008, 11:19 AM) [snapback]512137[/snapback]
No it makes a mockery of having a small squad of quality . Jenkins will come good but at the moment hes playing catch up with his sharpness .
Obviously Jenkins has more passion than just throwing a tantrum and storming off , well done mate you aren't at your best yet keep plugging away ( not at the spectators -Doogie wants more to come through the gate without getting their head panned in , its dangerous enough with Kev Finlayson's crossing ) biggrin.gif


STILL no wingers to be seen. Our 'left winger's rolleyes.gif out on loan to Burton, and Jimbo STILL plays 90 minutes of huff and puff, when we've 'beefed up' the midfield and play a left back.

Time to rest him-the boy is totally jaded.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 11:39:14
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Sep 14 2008, 11:34 AM) [snapback]512144[/snapback]
A lot of Morton fans are arseholes tbh.

The team were booed off at half time for some strange unknown reason. Then at full time it was plaudits all round - after a completely s*** performance with the only effort going into the game coming after Tosh was sent off. I'm not saying they should have been booed off the field - not at all - but I just found it a bit bizarre after they were booed off at half time by some people.

EH?

The stand was pretty quiet and drifted off smartly at the final whistle. One or two scattered 'clappers'-that was it from where I saw it.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 11:45:44
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 14 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]512145[/snapback]
Difference is though that they're really where we want to be.

Cup finals, Euro footie....a win yesterday and they go top.

I want Morton to win every game we play but I'm not all that despondent at a win, a draw and two clean sheets against one of the best sides in the league.

Can't comment on the performance obviously, and from some of the comments it sounds grim unsure.gif , but it does seem like there's not a lot of credit being given to Queens for making it difficult for us.

On the Jenkins thing, if he needs match fitness you've got to start somewhere. Hopefully a couple more games under his belt and he'll be running at full tilt.

PS. unless I've missed something that's upset the natural world order we [b]WILL beat Thistle smile.gif[/b]

There's no reason why not. On form we make it VERY difficult for others-that appears to be DI's only philosophy at the moment. We have enough skill to get goals now and then-the Hibs game was a prime example.

Doesn't alter the fact that as a spectacle our football is DIRE from week to week, and the crowds are dropping.

Raith-a division below us had over a thousand more yesterday. Even bloody CLYDE almost had as many.

As you said at the outset Queens have belief, and a Mr Rae who's more interested in club than self.

mortonjag 2008-09-14 11:54:19
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Sep 14 2008, 11:44 AM) [snapback]512156[/snapback]
i saw what was happening and it took ages for the st andrews guys to come to any sort of decision, even to decide what way they were going to exit, the guy did not look well at all, they did make the decision eventually to go towards the dublin end rather than fight thier way through the crowd. To cancel the ambulance I believe was daft though as by the looks of things the guy was seriously ill and his eyes were rolled back in his head. jim and moira as well as the other bloke did well but there was a serious lack of decision making and direct leadership initially from the st andrews guys.

glad the bloke is fine but there are some issues regarding the first aid cover at cappielow.

As I've already said, I DON'T think the Club is responsible for emergency treatment of fans. There is a disclaimer to that effect in the season ticket books-not quite worded like that-but 'accepting no responsibility for loss, injury, etc. EVEN by 'negligence'.

It's worded rather strangely, but see what you make of it yourself.

My take is that it's the old story of 'knowing your rights' when in fact they don't exist.

Again, to repeat, the St Andrews boys and girls are First Aiders-not doctors, nurses, or paramedics.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 11:58:57
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 14 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]512147[/snapback]
How can someone be jaded SIX weeks into the new season?

He's never stopped being jaded for well over a season! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 12:55:25
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 14 2008, 12:48 PM) [snapback]512175[/snapback]
That's because I was locked in a garage all week!!!!! mad.gif

Do you spend a lot of time in Night Clubs?
mortonjag 2008-09-14 12:59:08
QUOTE(stuart @ Sep 14 2008, 12:45 PM) [snapback]512174[/snapback]
Hello

Something I saw in the Sunday Mail report today is

"The home support were not impressed with the 4-5-1 tactics - something boss Davie Irons insisits they must get used to. He said : We are playing that way because we have been conceding goals of late Now we've had 2 cleansheets in 2 matches which can help us build for the future."

Is it fair enough that we are sacrificing an exciting brand of football for a more pragmatic approach or would people rather we played a good exciting style but lost a few goals along the way?

This report appears on the same page as a massive picture of Scott McGlaughlin celebrating another one of his goals for Airdrie



The fans are ALREADY getting used to it!

They're voting with their feet.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 13:06:41
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Sep 14 2008, 12:55 PM) [snapback]512180[/snapback]
I think anyone giving a player dogs abuse, to then go running to stewards when something is shouted back at them, are nothing but complete and utter s***ebags.

I liked the last avatar-has Kermit taken command?

QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Sep 14 2008, 12:56 PM) [snapback]512181[/snapback]
The lad's not jaded, he is just playing in the worst mid field I have ever seen.
Only way Jenkins is going to get fit is by playing, he needs to be picked in before either Masterson or McGuffie,
Lazy dos'nt even begin to describe those two.

As for the abuse, its always been there, most of the crowd can always play better than those on the pitch and are never slow to let the players know, silly burger should develop a thicker skin and ignore it..

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I take it you include yourself in your last sentence!!!!!

If Jimbo's not jaded he's just crap-take your pick.

Your comments about McGuffie are CRAZY-if you want to see 'lazy' look at big Eric yesterday-just as one example-he ALWAYS wants rid of the ball.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 13:12:51
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Sep 14 2008, 01:07 PM) [snapback]512190[/snapback]
Hopefully dropped.
He is lazy and imobile and a poor excuse for a proffessional footballer.

nothing he has done so far warrants his inclusion in the team (free kick at Easter road excepted)

foobs

A tad harsh! laugh.gif laugh.gif

I'd rather have seen him as a sub that some unknown Rothesay/Pishley kid!

Maybe he's 'homesick' and has gone off on loan to somebody! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 13:14:57
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 14 2008, 01:11 PM) [snapback]512192[/snapback]
I'd take a 0-0 over the 0-5 drubbing every day of the week.
He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't - surely he knows now that we need extra quality.

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mortonjag 2008-09-14 13:22:56
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 14 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]512197[/snapback]
Spot on.



Doesn't he get free admission and sit in a special box?



mortonjag 2008-09-14 13:32:00
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 14 2008, 01:13 PM) [snapback]512194[/snapback]
Point is MJ, First Aiders or Paramedics, they need to take control of situations like this were a person life hangs in the balance. What we witnessed was a shambles, with members of the public left to take control of the situation with StAndrews guys and police looking on.

As for the club being responsible, am sure they do have a legal commitment, though am sure someone in the know can confirm or deny this theory

I thought it was just a fit. The fact is that NOTHING untoward happened, yet folk on here want a pop at mere First Aiders whose responsibility is to the players on the pitch.

QUOTE(AJCTON @ Sep 14 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]512200[/snapback]
your right sean maybe i was to soft in my post, it was a shambles, it appeared to me that the first aiders that were there were severely lacking experience and leadership. the club does have a resposibility to the safety of everyone within the park, otherwise there would be no legal requirement for the s andrews and the police for that matter to be there.

The legal requirement is in terms of the playing staff. Like it or not, the Club does NOT have to double up for the NHS!

I'm SUPPORTING THE CLUB HERE-will anybody notice? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 13:35:58
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 14 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]512201[/snapback]
Everything you say is pretty much spot on apart from the bit in bold. He said 'We pay you' as in 'we pay your wages', which is anything but fair comment given what happened. Jenkins should probably have bit his tongue and not said anything, but as I've said elsewhere - If folk can't take it, don't dish it out in the first place.

I wish Jenks had hauled him on to the track and lamped him.

Next home crowd 4000!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 13:55:53
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 14 2008, 01:37 PM) [snapback]512205[/snapback]
And how did anyone know this at the time? Guy look like he was at deaths door.

First aiders are not only there for the players, think someone will confirm that, that is why they are situated throughout the crowd and not just down on the pitch

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Are you at the 'wind up'?

Where are those First Aiders who are situated 'throughout the crowd'?

I've already stated several facts, and we continue to get speculation.

If somebody takes ill in a public place-call an ambulance. If you are competent, administer First Aid yourself in the interim.

The club is NOT responsible for (as examples) unstable epileptics/epileptics who have forgotten medication, diabetics who have accidentally overdosed on insulin/missed a meal before a match, sudden myocardial infactions, faints, collapses from alcohol intoxication, premature labour, ETC., ETC.

For what it's worth, I find it almost unbelievable that in this day and age, nobody seemed to have the wit to simply put the said person in the 'coma position', or if he was indeed fitting, to check his airway before leaving him to get on with it! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 14:01:20
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Sep 14 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]512206[/snapback]
Are you mad ? McGuffie never chases back, he is only bested in laziness by Masterson.

wee Russel was best for us today, by a mile.

Jenkins needs games to get fit before we see the best of him, but he needs to get on with it, fast losing patience.

Truth is Queens were better than us and if Connor had been playing they would have had the points.

Question must be asked, why do we see other teams, Livvy, Aidrie Queens, playing attractive passing football, players moving for the ball, seen us doing it in the past occasionally, so why the big punt up the park, where it is inevitably swept up by the opposition and they are coming right back at us.
Begs the question what are our lot doing all week ??????????

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If you mean that he doesn't sprint about the place to no real effect like Jimbo and Superkev, I understand.

Why don't you watch the guy instead of the game just once Foobs. I thought the same as you about McGuffie until I started to focus on him for a couple of matches. He's worth his weight in gold.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 14:05:24 Douglas Rae is an atheist Methodist! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 14:07:41
QUOTE(cataTONic @ Sep 13 2008, 01:49 PM) [snapback]511720[/snapback]
There you go again with your 'highly educated' medical jargon.... laugh.gif laugh.gif

The medical term for testicles is 'Testes'!
mortonjag 2008-09-14 14:10:42
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 13 2008, 09:54 PM) [snapback]511947[/snapback]
Yes it is.
If there were a need for restrictions, what is the problem with simply enforcing current measures ie the offence of being drunk and disorderly, education etc more effectively instead of implementing botched, discriminatory, patronising and ludicrous legislation?
Kenny McAskill has no grounds to base his crusade upon, given that he himself was arrested for being drunk and disorderly. rolleyes.gif

If I may, for once, use common parlance, you talk a power of p1sh son.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 14:12:45
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 14 2008, 02:19 AM) [snapback]512072[/snapback]
pick one for Cappielow.

The picture quality's not great, but third from the right looks a good ride.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 14:16:51
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 14 2008, 10:46 AM) [snapback]512129[/snapback]
I missed the bit where Broon and Milliband are trying to stop adults using Air rifles whilst sending their weans to fire assault rifles at Ahem"training camps".

Though you miss the point Col.

The fuss had dies down until Mr Brainless reignited it.

Shot himself in the foot.

I believe he may also be a POUFFE!
mortonjag 2008-09-14 14:31:31
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 14 2008, 02:14 PM) [snapback]512217[/snapback]
Are you on the piss take again? There are StAndrews guys situated in the Shed and in the main stand at every game.

What is the piont in having these guys then? am lost

No one is pionting the finger at the club, more asking questions on the ability of the StAndrews guys
See that is were the StAndrews guys should have stood up to the mark...

Guy wasn't in a fit, just looked paralised. Your coming across of defensive here Doc, hit a raw nerve or something?
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YES Sean, you HAVE hit a raw nerve and it's this one.

It's utterly laughable that you claim 'he wasn't in a fit'. How would YOU know? Do ALL fits present like a go go dancer on speed? laugh.gif Why didn't you breenge in if you're so well informed?

I'm getting pissed off to the back teeth with the speculation on this thread. I feel defensive towards the St Andrews Ambulance for the simple reason that they are a voluntary body who are being vilified for (in my opinion) fulfilling their obligation to the playing staff on a match day. I ask again-what ultimate harm came of their actions in respect of the incident?

When you can prove to me that they have ANY other obligation, I'll be willing to look at the issue again. Until then, I will presume that much of this thread has been the usual hype of an ignorant public who perceived a simple faint or seizure as 'somebody breathing his last'.

mortonjag 2008-09-14 14:33:30
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Sep 14 2008, 02:23 PM) [snapback]512220[/snapback]
Was it the jag that trained them..........the truth is out there;)

Don't be ridiculous. Mortonjag is a doctor-not a mere ambulance man or first aider. bag.gif shutup.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 15:29:45
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 14 2008, 03:14 PM) [snapback]512257[/snapback]
MJ, think your way out of order on this one.

Two members of the public put the guy into the recovery position, checked his airway and pulse. As for a fit, am no Doc, but in the general way of things, the guy just looked paralysed.

StAndrews guys do it all voluntary agreed, but still voluntary or not a degree of leadership is needed in these circumstances.

One big piont is though, just because the guy is now ok, does that make everything ok?


No Sean-I'M NOT way out of order.

I'm grateful to Forfar ton and Ghost for providing more information. I've NEVER stated that the St Andrews boys got it right, but I STILL want to know EXACTLY where they got anything wrong.

We're getting different accounts of the event. It seems that adequate first aid WAS administered by qualified members of the public. That's ALL the St Andrews boys are!!!

They are not paramedics or qualified Scottish Ambulance Service staff and they don't pretend to be.


I already suggested that the person who cancelled the ambulance should only have done so if willing to take the consequences. Now I'm hearing the guy WAS taken to hospital.

We're not talking about Pittodrie here. As far as I can see the main focus for St Andrews' activity at Cappielow is the First Aid room. How many St Andrews' staff attend each match? Their function at Scapa appears to be mainly that of 'stretcher bearer'-I clearly remember one of their members claiming that Mr Rae was unwilling to pay for full Scottish Ambulance Service cover-I certainly DON'T see them 'scattered throughout the crowd'.

So back to the original question-who did anything wrong?

I'd like a factual answer please-not further speculation about what you think should have been done and by whom!


mortonjag 2008-09-14 15:39:14
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 14 2008, 03:05 PM) [snapback]512252[/snapback]
Thankfully I have never smoked....

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You do plenty of fuming Spurtle!
mortonjag 2008-09-14 15:40:47
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 14 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]512261[/snapback]
get them in among the lions.

F*CK THE LIONS


(signed the Tigers)
mortonjag 2008-09-14 15:44:20
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 14 2008, 02:45 PM) [snapback]512233[/snapback]
I didn't miss the point, I just didn't get as excited as you about a non-story. happy.gif

What do you think of impoverished SNP Cllr. Kalashnikov who's 'having to sell his south side mansion to pay the bills' laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif planning to send his daughter to Oxbridge?
mortonjag 2008-09-14 16:10:37
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 14 2008, 03:49 PM) [snapback]512269[/snapback]
FFS Only on this message board could a guy taking a bad turn at the football turn into a full scale argument. laugh.gif

Anyway I for one am glad it seems the gentleman has made a full recovery. Just to touch on a few things thats already been said, firstly MJ, when I got to the guy I tried to steady him along with Moira (ghosts mrs), his legs started to give way and at this point another fan (dirty dingus's mate) appeared on the scene, he took over from Moira and we both lowered him to the ground and put him in the recovery position, we put a jacket under the guys head and I supported it best I could to stop him further injuring himself whilst continuously checking that his airways were clear and loosening the clothing from around his neck as did the other lad who took his pulse a few times to make sure everything was ok there. I'm not really wanting to have a go at the first aiders but when they appeared they didn't really look as if they knew what to do in the situation, they just watched on.
Moira was on the phone to 999 operator and I remember her giving them a detailed account of the gentleman's condition and what was happening, I did not hear the first aider tell Moira to cancel the ambulance but she told me later he did and I have no reason whats so ever to doubt her, I did hear her ask the first aiders if there was oxygen available but I don't think there was a reply, I also heard the other fan say to the first aider to check her pulse but he ended up having to do this himself again. There was also a bit of a debate as to where the ambulance was to go to as the first aider wanted to take the gentleman right all the way around the track, I think the correct decision was made for the guy to be taken out via the WDE.

It's also a bit annoying to hear people say it was only a fit and he should have basically have been left to get on with it, I have no medical background and I was extremely concerned about the guy, his eyes were rolling and he was making strange noises, all in a days work for some but not so 'every day' for myself.


Right Jim-I'll precis the scenario and you can put me right where I'm wrong or confused.

Somebody took a bad turn. Competent first aid was immediately given and an ambulance summoned.

A second group of (hopefully) competent first aiders arrived on the scene to see that all was under control IN TERMS OF FIRST AID, so they hesitated about breenging in and complicating matters. They DON'T carry oxygen-they are NOT ambulancemen.

You'll notice Jim, that the only thing I queried-and I jumped on it straight away, was somebody questioning the calling of an ambulance. Unless the victim was fully alert and recovered, I fail to fully understand that.

It was an entirely natural suggestion that they transport him to the First Aid room pending the arrival of an ambulance. What was to be gained from leaving him where he was-he was apparently breathing with a clear airway, and not traumatised in any way.

Just SUPPOSE the ambulance had taken half an hour-those things have happened-they would have been pilloried for leaving him lying there and NOT taking him to the first aid room!

Anyway, it still all boils down to the actual function of the St Andrews Ambulance service with reference to the general public AT CAPPIELOW.

I understand what they are perceived to be doing, and expected to do. It's time folk acknowledged their limitations, and in particular that they are just Joe Public with fancy suits on, giving of their precious time 'for a good cause'.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 16:22:31
QUOTE(Lindberg6 @ Sep 14 2008, 03:46 PM) [snapback]512268[/snapback]
Diabolical fare on offer on Saturday - that first half formation was complete nonsense.

Had Queens scored (which they would feel they deserved) our so called gameplan would have been out the window as the gameplan was obviously to frustrate with 10 men behind the ball and try and nick something on the break or from a set piece....which we are so brilliant at!?!?!?!?

I think Irons has panicked after the Airdrie game and is setting out the team first and foremost not lose a goal. That may be ok if you have guys in the team who can score a goal out of nothing or having genuine pace upfront on the break....but we have neither of these. I get the feeling Irons saw that we won at Dumfries with that formation and the light bulb came on and he thought he had found the secret formula!!!

I genuinely feel sorry for our attacking players - it's not as if they are missing chances, we are just not creating any chances. I think we had 1 effort on target yesterday and that was when Russell clipped the bar after a bit of a solo run.

With 3 points for a win it is better to win 1 and lose 1 than draw 2.....the reason we are currently sitting bottom is because we are the only team not to have won a game in the league. If you can't score goals, you won't win games.

I'm afraid the brand of football we saw yesterday is going to make the crowds plummet even more - you can see it being below 2,000 over the winter if those type of performances keep up. Compare yesterday with the 2-2 draw with St Johnstone early in the season - I know what I'd rather watch.

Should we get an injury or 2 up front then we are really up that famous creek without a paddle....

Well done to Shimmin, Russell, Cuthbert and Mcguffie yesterday, we can only hope things get better sooner rather than later.

Amen to all that!
mortonjag 2008-09-14 16:29:08
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 14 2008, 03:58 PM) [snapback]512274[/snapback]
Think your looking too deep here MJ. What facts do you want, am only passing on what I saw and heard, nothing else I can do.

Stop taking it all so personal rolleyes.gif

Don't be ridiculous-I wasn't personally involved, and if I had been I probably couldn't/wouldn't have done any more than was done by the first group of competent first aiders who dealt with it in text book fashion by the sound of it-so WHY criticise the second lot for 'doing nothing' when there was nothing else they could do?

QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 14 2008, 04:22 PM) [snapback]512284[/snapback]
I'm not really wanting to get embroiled into any sort of argument over this, maybe the first aiders looked on and allowed what they saw was competent first aid to be carried out like you said, maybe they did what is txt book stuff for them by not getting involved when there was nothing more they could do than was being done, I wont argue with any of that.

From what I recall the stretcher didn't appear in the shed for some time, by the time we got the gentleman onto the stretcher the ambulance was there, so this was the reason he was not taken to the first aid room. I will also say the gentleman was not conscious at anytime I was there, he did several times look as if he was coming round but at no point gave us any indication he was aware of what was going on. I left him at about 3.15pm in the ambulance just before he was transferred to the IRH and I believe he was still unconscious.

Anyway last post on this thread for me.

Seems like Ghostie's lot did a great job-acknowledged by the other first aiders then!
mortonjag 2008-09-14 16:36:54
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 14 2008, 04:24 PM) [snapback]512287[/snapback]
Just be careful when asking for a BJ. unsure.gif

They are just big saft poosies!
mortonjag 2008-09-14 16:41:22
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 14 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]512298[/snapback]
Doon to his last 10 million? Mibbies he should get a bung from Soapy. Aww naw, haud on, Soapy bunged Eck to stop the regulation of buses as per the essenpee manifesto. Bung duly delivered and the regulation proposal disappeared into a black hole.

.......and we know Sir Cliff is well tanned Spurtle, but don't start foaming at the mouth.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 16:49:49
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 14 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]512299[/snapback]
I take it the Monkey wasn't playing ball last night...

Who says you were personally involved? Your losing it. laugh.gif

Your suggestion that I 'shouldn't take it personally' implied that I was in some way 'personally involved'.

The Monkey plays pool on a Saturday night-sh1t hot too-he's been barred from almost every pub in the South Side for 'ripping off the customers'.

It's a shame when folk can't take an honourable beating Sean-especially from a wee monkey! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 16:58:43
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Sep 14 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]512308[/snapback]
I still say wait until the end of the first quarter. We've lost three and drawn three, whose to say we won't win the next three? I await "I'm to say" from a few people! laugh.gif

Realistically, a win at Firhill next Saturday can be achieved. Again the following weekend against Dunfermline at home, especially if we put in a strong performance against Caley in the CIS Cup that week, and win over some of our disgruntled fans. At least a point up at Dingwall at the start of October is achieveable also I think. Just shy of midtable form based on the first nine matches if we get that. The team has it in them.

I was disappointed that we seemed even more defensive yesterday than at Palmerston last Sunday, however I don't think we are going to be getting used to that sort of formation at all. When Irons uses it, we all know why. It would be better to see exciting matches at Cappielow, where we take care of sides that are down to ten men, but yesterday just wasn't our day, again! It'll come. We will win games there.

Agreed in general Bug, but the fans just aren't willing to tolerate utterly negative tactics just so that DI/DC stay in a job.

We had that sort of keech from JM for far too long and in terms of a spectacle the current football's WORSE! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 17:02:02
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 14 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]512309[/snapback]
f*** Religion! Religion is the Devil!
...wait, the Devil doesn't exist then if religion doesn't exist.
b*****d! Religion is a Paedophile!

My religion is preying on your G Glitter darling! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 17:11:12
QUOTE(Malt @ Sep 14 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]512314[/snapback]
Some fans really want to get a grip. We honestly must have a s*** reputation within Scottish football. Maybe Scot McLaughlin was right and we are "Morons"

It is amazing how we see players do well against us at cappielow, and in the league, we sign them and suddently, in the mind of Morton fans, they are s***e

Templeman
Linn
Weatherson
Jenkins
McGuffie
Stevenson

The list is endless.

Kiss of death for your career when you sign for Morton it would seem.

McPherson, McCormack, McInally...............??DI/DC


What's the common factor? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 17:30:12
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 14 2008, 05:12 PM) [snapback]512318[/snapback]
No it didn't laugh.gif , it meant your taking it all too personal, not that you were personnally involved.

As for the monkey, maybe its time to give it a right good spanking rolleyes.gif

Well it's maybe that I just don't like wanton and ignorant criticism of folk who are only 'doing their best' ............talking of which, can I change the subject and ask you who said this and where?


'Can I end this article by welcoming everyone to today's match, friend and foe alike, for what I am sure will be a fast and exciting game'. smile.gif


mortonjag 2008-09-14 17:34:56
QUOTE(leyTON @ Sep 14 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]512170[/snapback]
forza he continually posted a picture of a fat naked guy during a match thread

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NOT Davie McArthur Peter Weatherson, I hope!
mortonjag 2008-09-14 17:43:30
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 14 2008, 05:35 PM) [snapback]512330[/snapback]
No, I don't want to change the subject. Think you are taking it all to personal, take a step back and see the bigger picture(you'll find monkey may well be two timing you, with an even older gent)

OK its voluntary, but that excuses nothing.

Bawbag-you don't know the answer-let me give you another clue-


'Frankly our showing was so bad that I am not even going to write any more about it. I am just drawing a veil over it.


Final point. Only Iain Russell and Jim McAlister gained pass marks. I felt sorry for our Manager, Dave Irons, that he had to be put through such trauma.....etc.,etc.'
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Any closer now Sonny Bean? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 18:04:03
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 14 2008, 05:43 PM) [snapback]512336[/snapback]
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Nowt to do with me MJ, Jim/Moira and the other lad dealt with it. I only summoned the St Andrews Ambulance folk wink.gif


You are too modest.
QUOTE(standman @ Sep 14 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]512341[/snapback]
The most comforting thing about this thread is the fact Midtons and Mrs Ghost went to the aid of a fellow supporter.

For that they should be commended.

Well done guys.

Indeed, and don't forget there would be no Mrs Ghost without a Mr Ghost! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 18:10:10
QUOTE(Lost in Space @ Sep 14 2008, 04:29 PM) [snapback]512295[/snapback]
Yesterday were were not allowed to stand in a perfectly useable area of he cowshed terracing at the Wee Dublin End of the shed adjacent to the seating area.

WTF is wrong with standing there, after paying 14 quid to get in to the place?

After a discussion with the head steward were were allowed to use it, but only breifly. That was until we were moved on because, apparently, the Polis have this classified as a "Sterile Area". What the F*ck doe that mean?

Can anyone explain why that perfectly reasonable part of he shed should be classified as such?




ster·ile
2. incapable of producing offspring; not producing offspring.


Why not just put up a sign reading:


NO SHAGGING
mortonjag 2008-09-14 18:16:54
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 14 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]512345[/snapback]
I don't agree with the abuse and some fans are moronic to say the least, but a lot of our players are on at least £1000 a week, a lot more than most teams in this league and its disgraceful that for that money we can't even buy a win in the league , and even more disgraceful that some of the players look like they couldn't care if they win or lose...probably because they know they have their big fat paycheck to come home to either way.

In my opinion the mindless morons who hurl unwarranted abuse are almost as daft as the more intelligent fans who think they are worth any attention.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 18:19:52
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 14 2008, 06:17 PM) [snapback]512352[/snapback]
Ahhh, ye see here though, she is not Mrs Ghost rolleyes.gif

Yet laugh.gif

In which case I hope you have not been giving her the willies.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 18:25:39
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 14 2008, 06:21 PM) [snapback]512358[/snapback]
Wellies more like laugh.gif

Just so long as you're using condoms of sorts.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 18:30:01
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Sep 14 2008, 06:24 PM) [snapback]512363[/snapback]
any e.g's of some of our players who didn't care yesterday, PT ? I've seen some sub par performances but the 'not caring' bit always puzzles me. Don't you think their own team mates would have something to say about someone who wasn't interested in trying. ?
or maybe it's a conspiracy and none of them care.
or maybe there's a rota operating, and they all have their turn at not caring.
or maybe I've just ripped the arce out of it.

Don't puzzle yourself to death over it Cloth Ears.

Were you at Airdrie BTW? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 18:34:22
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Sep 14 2008, 06:31 PM) [snapback]512368[/snapback]
go onto you tube....type any word OR phrase into the search bar. Now the 1st video that comes up in the list below....click onto that...seeeee how far you can get before you lose interest, or drives you nuts, type the last thing you hear into the search box, see what comes up next, repeat process, so far gone from bible bashers to s*** 80's groups and then some!! ph34r.gif rolleyes.gif blink.gif

Give the missus a game of scrabble-whoever loses goes out for the chips! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 18:44:55
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 14 2008, 06:33 PM) [snapback]512372[/snapback]
People expressed opinions which they might have kept to themselves if they had known the full circumstances. Thats nobody's fault!

As far as Masterton goes, he would have contributed more yesterday than Jenkins who should the odd touch which suggest he can be a class player but was mostly missing. Masterton is the only decent dead ball kicker we have and he could have made a difference yesterday.

Precisely!

It's perfectly possible to feel empathy with, and send condolences to a fellow human in unhappy times without suddenly changing ones general opinion of that person.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 18:56:08
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Sep 14 2008, 06:37 PM) [snapback]512379[/snapback]
Not at Airdrie MJ, ( I was away on holiday) was there a mass break out of not caring at the Shyberry ? I know that the players were accused by some of 'thinking they just had to turn up' Which I also feel is p1sh as Airdrie's result against Hearts would have been warning enough that it wasn't going to be a breeze.

Like most I certainly didn't see that coming though.

After 15 minutes at Airdrie-I commented that 'If somebody told me Dougie Rae had just cancelled the win bonus, I'd believe him'.

I take port ton's point. If anybody cared THAT much, we'd maybe see somebody taking the initiative just for once.

Please don't misunderstand me-they are professionals-I'm not accusing them of throwing games-not even of 'not trying', but 'caring' is something quite different-it's about an emotional attachment.

Please nominate ONE player in our current squad who REALLY cares more about Greenock Morton than the size of his monthly salary cheque..
mortonjag 2008-09-14 19:01:26
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 14 2008, 06:53 PM) [snapback]512396[/snapback]
LOL someone rattled your cage laugh.gif laugh.gif

Anyway what has this got to do with your losing your virginity 60+ years ago?

Absolutely EVERYTHING-she told me she was a qualified first aider and would demonstrate the 'kiss of life'.

I was young and naive.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 19:09:04
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 14 2008, 06:37 PM) [snapback]512378[/snapback]
It was a desparate attempt by opposition parties to try and land a glove on Salmond....Didn't happen though laugh.gif

They certainly wouldn't go near that festering carbunculated caricature of humanity without a pair of thick rubber gloves, a bucket of dettol, and a nose clip.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 19:10:41
QUOTE(Yoda @ Sep 14 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]512383[/snapback]
while you're there - mine's a pie supper

'Salt and vinegar-any pickles'?
mortonjag 2008-09-14 19:13:33
QUOTE(Yoda @ Sep 14 2008, 06:24 PM) [snapback]512364[/snapback]
Fk you I was born in the branny! laugh.gif
edit to add that doesn't mean I'm voting for his return ph34r.gif



QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Sep 14 2008, 06:43 PM) [snapback]512384[/snapback]
I'm a Branny girl as well, were are you TiD? YBtoi. ph34r.gif

Were you both home deliveries. I was a takeaway from the 'Rankin'!
mortonjag 2008-09-14 19:17:02
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 14 2008, 06:56 PM) [snapback]512399[/snapback]
Mon the brainwashing Scientoligist Cult .

Lets hear it for the Theatons
down with Panorama bag.gif

F*CK PANORAMA I say, and F*CK THE TEN O'CLOCK NEWS, and specially F*CK THE NATIONAL ANTHEM IF THEY STILL PLAY IT BEFORE THAT WEE DOT DISAPPEARS.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 19:25:42
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 14 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]512410[/snapback]
I'd rather see us playing exciting attacking football every week. Better to win every second game and lose every second game than to try to go for boring 0-0 draws. Playing for a draw, which is what one up front means, will cost us our first division status. If we haven't got the players to win games, why not? We know the team can win and can score goals, so let's go for entertainment. Otherwise we'll have sub 2k crowds by Xmas.

So I'm NOT mad!


I've repeatedly been 'shouted down' for saying that I'd rather see us play really well and lose to the better team on the day, than 'grind out' a boring draw.

Obviously that has to be seen in perspective, but history tends to suggests that attractive attacking football produces a positive result when the league table's rolled out at the season's end,-AND as you say it brings in more money.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 20:45:26
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Sep 14 2008, 08:10 PM) [snapback]512432[/snapback]
Seems that those in charge at Cappielow are wanting to do away with that tradition.

I wrote to the club about 6 months ago asking for clarification of their pricing policy for pre-school kids. As seems to be the norm... I didn't get a reply.

That's an absolute disgrace.

You criticise on here and are scathingly told to 'Write to the Club'! When you do the Club ignores you. I understand that they have a siege mentality, but failing even to acknowledge a simple enquiry about pricing policy smacks of utter disorganisation (I say that generously) or of abysmal disregard for the paying customer.

NOTHING has really changed since Rae announced his three year plan in 2001!

He presides over a motley bunch of 'yes men' whom-like the fans and the Trust, he controls by instinctive 'divide and rule'.

I can't be bothered boring posters with the details, but one of my relatives was treated despicably on the telephone by some 'wee lassie'-his words BTW, when he enquired about non-delivery of his season tickets-THEIR c*ck up of course! Just another example of 'Us and them'.

The end result is that the Club has lost its way. I firmly believe that the so far unquantified Alistair Donald element is the only thing which currently stays off a more concerted reaction to Mr Rae's stewardship.

I sense that AD may have already bailed him out at least once.

I dearly wish we could see our Club progressing, and that man is now nothing but a stumbling block IMO.

mortonjag 2008-09-14 21:27:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 14 2008, 08:22 PM) [snapback]512436[/snapback]
I don't know if it has been mentioned at all but Jim, if someone does take a fit the best thing to do is first make sure they are in no immediate danger then simply let them get on with it. It is all that can be done. I have a mate who is epileptic and that was what she said when I asked her.

...just for future reference smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-14 21:30:55
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 14 2008, 09:24 PM) [snapback]512467[/snapback]
Dont think anyone is asking them to be ton fans, just have some sort of affiliation with the club. Mcalister and Greacen aren't Morton supporters but they would give absolutely everything for this club.

Well if you're saying that every proffession footballer wants to play their best and win things then i guess that means that the players we have aren't good enough, which is an even bigger problem...espescially when you consider the wages theyre on. ( fully expect MJ to put my last sentence in fuschia bold and make a comment about Mr Rae. tongue.gif)

Mr Rae's soor plooms are just the thing.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 21:34:02
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 14 2008, 09:28 PM) [snapback]512472[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-09-14 21:37:16
QUOTE(Yoda @ Sep 14 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]512409[/snapback]
oh go on then, as you're offering laugh.gif

Sorry-I was distracted-bet you're starving now-Pie supper, plenty of salt 'n' vinegar, three pickles and a glass bottle of Irn Bru. Will that be OK?
mortonjag 2008-09-14 21:40:03
QUOTE(Yoda @ Sep 14 2008, 07:17 PM) [snapback]512414[/snapback]
home delivery. My Dad kept popping his head round the bedroom door to see how my Mum was getting on, the midwife finally lost her temper and shouted "Your not sterile" Jim's reply "I know I'm not f***ing sterile - she wouldn't be here if I was"

Don't even get me started on my brother, my mother, her tights and his two birthdays

Are you quite old? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 21:45:17
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 14 2008, 08:39 PM) [snapback]512448[/snapback]
Aye, he should have let the thing be forgotten.

Spurtle-did I misread that. Mr Mason is an SNP MSP-he doesn't get things wrong remember!

Next you'll be coming out as a leftie POUFFE!
mortonjag 2008-09-14 21:47:18 Sir Cliff enters













































SPURTLE! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 21:50:46
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 14 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]512475[/snapback]
I don't recall the SNP doing similar when they were in opposition.
The have no mandate to preach and attempt to subvert the norm's of society.

JEEZ SPARROT - you're just winding the old Jag up-ain't you?

Wait till Mr Bam sees that!
mortonjag 2008-09-14 22:02:48
QUOTE(barrheadton @ Sep 14 2008, 09:35 PM) [snapback]512476[/snapback]
Was immediately behind the incident. Had it not been for the guys who helped out the guy could have been in serious danger.At no point did the first aiders even check for pulse/check airways etc. They couldn't even figure out how to get him on the stretcher . At one point one even stood on the fingers of someone trying to get him on the stretcher. As for saying it was only a fit, there are many and varied causes of fitting. The sensible option I would have thought would have been to summon the crowd doctor, Dr. Fraser Gray, the last time I checked the programme. I'm sorry, volunteers or not , they were a complete shambles. Even when they got the stetcher to the top of the WDE stairs they waited an eternity

What's the point in flinging your tuppenceworth in at this stage unless you've something positive to add. It's been well established that the fan qualified first aiders had the situation under control and had summoned an ambulance. The sensible option (calling an ambulance) had already been taken-the man was breathing freely and not in any apparently immediate danger of succumbing. What do you think the good Dr would have done that hadn't been done already, if he even got there before a FAR better equipped ambulance crew?

The point has already been made that the St Andrews boys were 'A SHAMBLES'. Since that judgement has come from ignorant and speculative laymen, I prefer to reserve judgement until we hear their side of the story if indeed we ever do.

QUOTE(Sawney Bean @ Sep 14 2008, 09:40 PM) [snapback]512481[/snapback]
From what I saw, I agree with that. Shambles, volunteers or not, some sort of ownership was needed. Hope the guy is alright. Looked in a poor state as he passed me, being carried out.


So did Morton yesterday! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 22:09:02
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 14 2008, 10:01 PM) [snapback]512493[/snapback]
Just found out the guy went into a Diabetic comma. Now am sure you don't need me to troll through the web to prove that it is indeed life threatening.

Sean-will you kindly refrain from dabbling in matters you don't understand. I've seen all degrees of hypoglycaemia from transient faints to indeed life threatening episodes. Very, very few diabetics die as an immediate result of hypoglycaemia.

If indeed that was the diagnosis, the initial first aid management (including summoning an emergency ambulance) was ALL that could have been done.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 07:16:53
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 14 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]512501[/snapback]
Your a cheeky chappy tonight.

Your opinion comes from you not even being there, a court of law would chuck you out for such mince.

'because I was a Doctor, I know that the guy lying 300metres from me and out of my line of vision was not in any serious danger ' laugh.gif

We have a strippers night coming up soon in the Darroch, come along and watch something with a pulse rolleyes.gif

You are not being remotely clever any more Sean if you're just attempting to wind me up.

If you are actually being serious you are clearly not nearly as intelligent as I had assumed.


I have at NO point attempted to make a diagnosis, nor have I EVER suggested that the man was not ill.

What I have said repeatedly is that the initial first aid treatment which included the summoning of an emergency ambulance had been undertaken, and it had been established that he was alive, breathing, and not traumatised. Apart from keeping him under observation until the ambulance arrived, and specifically in terms of the clinical experience and equipment available, nothing more SHOULD have been done unless there was a significant deterioration.

THAT was when the St Andrews boys either stepped in or didn't step in, or were 'a shambles' or were not 'a shambles'. One thing is clearer than day. Whether or not they knew what to do, every fan within a fifty metre radius appears to have known better while standing back doing nothing but ogle! ph34r.gif

I hope I'm coming over loud and clear to you. I worked closely with the Scottish Ambulance Service for over ten years Sean, and have extensive 'hands on' experience as an 'emergency doctor'.

The general public is 'a nightmare' in situations like those- their vulture like curiosity can affect the concentration of even experienced Medics and Ambulance crew, and the perceived wisdom is to 'get them to f*ck out the road where they can't do any more harm'.

I'm totally pissed off by the ignorance and speculation, and YOU have a bloody cheek to question my judgement, particularly when I'm merely challenging unsubstantiated allegations about people who are unable to defend themselves on this forum.!

One thing is crystal clear, if I didn't know it already. The world is full of smart ass wannabe doctors and nurses! ph34r.gif


I'm sending a letter off to The St Andrews Ambulance Service this morning and will be requesting clarification particularly of the following points.

1/ Their view on Saturday's events.

2/ The statutory function of their Service at Cappielow on match days, and specifically the function and experience of the crew summoned to the incident.

It's a pity that I have to do this. It could easily have been done by any one of the previous posters if they had GENUINELY been concerned. Public lynching's MUCH more fun though. thumbdown.gif

Until I receive a response I intend to say no more on the subject, though I have a sneaking suspicion others will still 'know better'. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-15 07:45:21
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Sep 14 2008, 11:25 PM) [snapback]512527[/snapback]
Uncalled for and completely ignorant considering the circumstances.

I don't agree.

Foobs gave his opinion while unaware of Stevie's current sad circumstances.

It seems that others have called that in question, when in fact it was perfectly legitimate.

He is merely defending that legitimacy while at the same time offering his condolences.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 08:07:22
QUOTE(longboat @ Sep 15 2008, 01:49 AM) [snapback]512540[/snapback]
I wasn't having a go at you, I just commented that I believe the players DO care that they are not winning.

I agree that the fans are entitled to get their money's worth for watching a game, but players should not receive the level of abuse that they get. It's not helping things.

We are all entitled to vote with our feet. If the football is not at the standard you want, go and watch the OF games. You are guaranteed better results and value for your pound. I think I know what you reaction will be to that.

I didn't think I used (m)any cliches, but I meant every word of it.

I agree with pretty much all you said in the big spiel, but I'm slightly concerned about your comments on our wee massage board.

My opinion is that the players are more than welcome to read this forum if they wish, but it's very much a case of 'caveat emptor'.

This IS the correct place to let off steam. When players do well there is never any shortage of compliments-indeed they are often portrayed IMHO as far better than they really are. Similarly when players under perform they will receive varying degrees of condemnation.

A good example is Wakey. When he came here he was-for starters- a JM signing, and labelled a 'panic buy'.

His form in the first half dozen matches was absolutely abysmal-so poor in fact that I openly criticised him, and I'm not in the habit of wantonly criticising players. The abuse he took here was arguably the worst I've seen of any player for many a year.

Wakey's head could-indeed if you are to be believed, should have gone right down, but immense credit to the boy-he just kept plugging away, and not only pulled a rabbit out of the hat in the final two games last season, but has been a powerhouse up front for us ever since.

Maybe other players are adversely affected, but it's a big bad world, and as port ton correctly says they are being paid big men's wages.

If their form is affected adversely by reading this daft wee forum, there is a simple remedy!
mortonjag 2008-09-15 08:15:04
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Sep 15 2008, 07:49 AM) [snapback]512550[/snapback]
Don't you have a pint of milk, rolls and papers you should be collecting at this time in the morning. Or have you sent the Monkey out in the rain ? The poor b@rsteward.........

The Monkey has an umbrella.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 08:32:34
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 15 2008, 07:56 AM) [snapback]512551[/snapback]
You're thinking of Kipper McHaddock. He was signed but didn't make it onto the bench on Saturday because he told Irons he couldn't handle the goldfish bowl that is Cappielow.

There is much carping at you Peter.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 08:34:23
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 15 2008, 08:19 AM) [snapback]512558[/snapback]
If you believe thats why our attendances are dropping then you are completely stark raving bonkers. laugh.gif

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He didn't claim it was the ONLY reason.

Most folk seem agreed on the main reason!
mortonjag 2008-09-15 08:42:04
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Sep 15 2008, 08:32 AM) [snapback]512560[/snapback]
That is exactly what Irons said after the match in the hospitality suite. He didn't single out any players but admitted that as good as we were defensively, we didn't break 4-3-3 as quickly as he would have liked. There was too much of a gap between Wake and the midfield and it is something to be worked on.

My own take is that Jenkins was way off the pace and McGuffie didn't impose himself. For the 4-5-1 to work, you not only need your wide men to make the runs, you also need the two attacking centre midfielders to work the passes in the middle and to quickly support the lone front man. That just didn't happen. Russell showed some good flashes of skill coming in off the wing and running direct at defenders but Jim was just too deep to make an impression.

It was by far an exhilarating game but it's a another clean sheet against a decent attacking side so we have to take the positives.

We still need at least one decent winger and a thrusting attacking midfielder/playmaker. Hopefully Jenkins will come good in respect of the latter.

Jimbo and superkev are ALWAYS going to be 'hit or miss'-sometimes they catch opposing defences out because they are unorthodox, but I'd far rather see the wings used properly, crosses coming over regularly, and the inevitable resultant goals.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 09:03:09
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 15 2008, 08:43 AM) [snapback]512564[/snapback]
I don't see where he suggested it was just one of a few reasons. rolleyes.gif

....and I don't see where he suggested it wasn't! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-15 09:22:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 15 2008, 07:26 AM) [snapback]512548[/snapback]
Is this a Unionist plot ?

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The bleak weather in Scotland means inhabitants are twice as likely as their English neighbours to suffer from a vitamin D deficiency.

In fact, the average Scot has a vitamin D level that is four times lower than those living south of the border.
Gidday Dr MJ,

Is this true ?

Does this matter, or are Pommie levels excessive ??


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http://health.ninemsn.com.au/healthnews/?b...owcomments=true

It is absolutely true. His name is Farquhar Summers and he lives in a cave on Staffa.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 09:27:05
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 15 2008, 09:05 AM) [snapback]512568[/snapback]
No he's not - he's an SNP MP. Pay attention!

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Indeed-he's not one of Bawheid's weans yet!
mortonjag 2008-09-15 09:34:38
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 15 2008, 09:20 AM) [snapback]512573[/snapback]
Tom, I've already politely asked you many, many times to desist from referring to my condition on this messageboard.
Again, untrue. The current police recruitment levels outstrip those that are retiring, so there is already a net increase in police officers. I refer you my to previous link which show that current police numbers are at record high levels.

Also, the deal was for 1000 more officers by 2011. It's still only 2008, just incase you're not sure.

Tom, can I suggest to you that your anti-SNP rants would be somewhat more credible and therefore more effective if they didn't consist solely of downright lies.

If you have a genuine illness and feel that others are mentioning it inappropriately, it might be a good idea to either openly say what it is, or to p.m. people with details if you feel they've been unfair.

At the moment I'm with Mr Bam on this when he talks about an 'undisclosed medical condition'.

All I have gleaned so far is that you are a wee man with ginger hair, and I don't see that as a medical condition.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 09:38:00
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 15 2008, 09:35 AM) [snapback]512579[/snapback]
... a bit like the lonely prisoner.

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Who was intracellular?
mortonjag 2008-09-15 09:40:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 15 2008, 08:11 AM) [snapback]512555[/snapback]
Muslim cleric Abdul Nacer Benbrika has been convicted of leading a terrorist cell which plotted attacks on Melbourne that could have killed thousands.
During the 115-day trial which began in February, jurors heard the men, who were arrested in 2005, were accused of planning terrorist acts in Melbourne, involving explosives or weapons.

The jury heard Benbrika, also known as Sheik Abu Bakr, had told his followers it was "permissible to kill women, children and the aged" and that the group needed to kill at least 1,000 non-believers to make the Australian government withdraw soldiers from Iraq and Afghanistan.

The court was also told the group had planned to bomb the MCG when it was packed with close to 100,000 people at the 2005 AFL grand final and had also planned to attack Crown Casino during the 2006 Australian Formula One Grand Prix and a pre-season AFL game.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/631422...-a-terror-group
Bomb the MCG with a crowd of 100,000 ?

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That's just not cricket.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 09:42:51
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Sep 15 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]512570[/snapback]
As I've said before, the abuse and general bad language dished out these days is nothing compared to when I started going to see the Ton and from what I gather going back even further. As Port Ton and others have said, whilst the fair minded among us agree shouting personal abuse serves no purpose, it is something footballers at all levels have been subjected to and I am of the opinion that professional players should be able to handle it.

As for attendances dropping, that is more to do with the fact that watching football is no longer a cheap Saturday afternoon pastime and people have finally realised that blind faith and devotion is no longer a reason for spending hard earned cash and time away from the family to watch rubbish. If only Mr Rae realised this too.

I think he's quite set in his ways.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 09:44:54
QUOTE(Lost in Space @ Sep 14 2008, 04:21 PM) [snapback]512283[/snapback]
Ok, yesterday's performance was utterly dismal in almost every respect. QoS bossed that game for 60 minutes, during which our midfield was posted missing. It's a good job their strikers were off colour or it would have been a mauling. However, they got tired, let us back into it, and went a man down. We still could not capitalise! Our set pieces were rank. Our control of the ball was shocking, and we were bereft of ideas.

You might call this an over-reaction, but we already look like a relegated side. I can't see us getting any points in the next 3 games. Which will leave us with 3 points with a quarter of the season gone. That will be very hard to recover from in my opinion. I fear we may be doomed.

I believe we'll finish fifth! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-15 09:48:28
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 15 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]512572[/snapback]
We need a decent striker. Wake is pretty average, works hard but he's not really much good in the air and he doesn't appear to have lightning pace. Russell is a pretty good winger and seems to be able to dribble through defences, but we need him further forward. And FFS why do we persist with conventional corners that never lead to anything. Once Kevin came on, he was hanging around 30 yards out at corners and if they had been pulled back to him he could have had a shot. As it was, Thomson and Barr got to virtually everything, one Dominic Shimmin header apart. And don't get me started on the terrible free kicks. Or the constant high balls into the area. We have players who can run at defences, so why don't they?

Neither Kev nor Jimbo can shoot for peanuts-hadn't you noticed. Aye they've both scored two or three great goals when it just came right for them, but they are actually very poor in the shooting stakes.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 11:53:28
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Sep 15 2008, 11:37 AM) [snapback]512612[/snapback]
..................with which five teams below us? Before the season started I would have thought, ever the optimist, Clyde, Ross County, Airdrie, Livingston and possibly Partick. Now I haven't a clue, and certainly expect Livi to finish above us. I think the Airdrie result was just one of these days and am not sure how they'll do over the season and we'll have a better idea about Partick after Saturday.

At the moment if someone could guarantee me eighth I'd grab it with both hands..............but 'fifth', I certainly hope you are right!

It's still pretty early in the season, and we're still struggling to find any kind of settled side with injuries, and with Newby off on loan.

We've shown in the cup matches that we CAN win-we just need to go on a wee run and will start to climb the league.

It's the football as a spectacle which I object to, and that, unfortunately won't be attracting many more to Cappielow.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 12:08:18
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 15 2008, 10:21 AM) [snapback]512594[/snapback]
Don't quite know why you felt the need to get involved in this and give us your tuppensworth MJ.

I have no intention of playing PM ping-pong with Tom to explain my medical condition to him. I've politely asked you and Tom on countless occasions to kindly stop referring to it, and in your case the penny seems to have dropped and for that I thank you. Tom on the other hand persists.

And I don't have ginger hair. rolleyes.gif


Well that's even more information I didn't have before!

I have stopped referring to you as anything other than normal because you clearly got upset when I did the opposite, but I still don't know one way or another anything about the 'medical condition' you say you have.

I know we touched on dwarfism at one point but I'm not clear as to whether or not you do suffer from dwarfism. If you do, and if you state you do, I think it will be unreasonable if others continue to make comments about your height.

The trouble is that unless you do, they may simply assume that you are trying to 'steal a march' on them, and let's face it CHC, you're NOT slow to have a go at other posters in a manner which they might find offensive.
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 15 2008, 10:59 AM) [snapback]512605[/snapback]
I have.

Do I get a prize ?

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How tall are you, and do you suffer from any medical conditions, real or imagined, which might render you the victim of unfair abuse?
mortonjag 2008-09-15 12:20:28
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 15 2008, 10:57 AM) [snapback]512603[/snapback]
MJ could answer that one

Rickets is very uncommon those days. I'd be worried about hypervitaminosis D if the public read too much into that article.

The wee picture shows a child affected by rickets.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 12:49:22
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 15 2008, 12:26 PM) [snapback]512627[/snapback]
C'mon the tiggers

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mortonjag 2008-09-15 12:53:31
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 15 2008, 12:46 PM) [snapback]512635[/snapback]
MJ - for the last time - I have absolutely no intention or desire to discuss my medical history and conditions, past or present, with you or anyone else on here.

Now, once again, can I please ask you to drop the subject.

You already stated that I HAVE dropped the subject.

Why are you quoting a reply to NewTon?
mortonjag 2008-09-15 13:05:47
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 15 2008, 12:52 PM) [snapback]512638[/snapback]
I take it 'long in the tooth' is your new 'polite' way referring to my age. Of course I recognise that image, presentation and personality are important for political success, indeed those very qualities take precedence over the substance of policy and ideology. Maybe that's why we are so poorly served by the current crop of slippery, spin doctor driven bunch of three card trick artists that currently pass for politicians. Who's being 'a tad naive' ? Not me I think.

It refers to an unpleasant medical condition associated with the ageing process Mr Edwards-gum recession it's called.

I'd guess that some folk wouldn't take too kindly to others mocking their medical conditions-real or imagined.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 15:23:02
QUOTE(cmdc @ Sep 15 2008, 02:48 PM) [snapback]512673[/snapback]
We survived relegation by a goal on the final game of the season, and went into the game bottom of the league. Making ourselves big and hard to beat has to be the prioroty before we do anything else. Not pretty, not going to bring the crowds flocking back, but it might well be something we have to endure.

Not the worst point in the world, and on the back of a good result down in Dumfries it's been a decent enough week's work.

I don't buy into that at all.

It's a bit like the story we believed about JM having this wonderful training set up with heart monitors and check ups at Dundee Uni, until we discovered they were all playing ping pong in the nookie.

Why BIG and hard to beat?

Why not wee and impossible to defend against?

Just a thought! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-15 15:31:30
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 15 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]512661[/snapback]
Thought I would grab a cup of tea from the canteen and on the short way there I passed:

A couple winching in the corridor, on entering the canteen, two guys are heading out holding hands like long lost love burds. After buying my tea, I head back to my deck, only to pass some woman in camo trousers and a pair of light green wellies, followed by some girl with more piercings than I could count. Then walks by some very small guy talking away to him self in a full blown conversation.

Thought, this place is full of weirdos, I can see how I fit right in...

Is this common place in other call centres?

How would I know-I used to be a f*ckin doctor-remember!
mortonjag 2008-09-15 15:48:22 I have thought up a new game to keep us occupied. I make no secret of the fact that it's not an entirely novel pursuit, but it works a wee bit like this. If somebody says anything about you that you don't like, you ask them to stop making a fool of you 'because of your medical condition'. The only difference here is that you're allowed to then challenge them and try to make them tell you what's wrong.

Right-here goes-say Boozie has just called me a POUFFE and I claim he's making a fool of my medical condition-he might come back with

are you saying POUFFES are ill Doc?


Oh F*CK it probably won't work but it seemed like a good idea at the time.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 15:59:33
QUOTE(Jim @ Sep 15 2008, 03:43 PM) [snapback]512683[/snapback]
if d.i. thinks he can play for 60mins of each game with these tatics and not lose any goals he is kidding himself. if Q.O.S. had scored and went on to win the game. he would have got roasted for his tatics. could d.i.tell the fans before the next home game if he is going to play the same tatics,if he is i for one wont be there wasting 15pounds to watch that dross.

Indeed-it's easy to be wise after the fact-for BOTH Managers.

They could have been three or four up at half time on chances-they actually made more than Airdrie did in the first-and we'd have been dead and buried, the fans would have been drifting off early in their droves, and Rae would yet again be going loopy.

As it transpired after Tosh was sent off Chisholm more or less settled for the draw, and allowed us to go at them, and sure, we COULD have got a winner-indeed if we had any creativity from midfield or any decent crosses going over we probably would have.

At the moment DI is simply talking a good game to save face. If he honestly thinks we can play that pure crap every week and start climbing the table, he's dafter than McInally was, and that would be SOME achievement.

mortonjag 2008-09-15 16:17:49
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 15 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]512695[/snapback]
Oh for Jesus sake, look at whit's happened, Big Ears and Noddy have fell oot.

Toytown is going to be devastated.

Stop being so precious ya pair of bufties.

TonInDublin

HA-so that's what's wrong with him-he has spasmus nutans.

JEEZUZ-I hope Bam doesn't start going on about having a nodding acquaintance with somebody or he'll be reportit.!
mortonjag 2008-09-15 16:30:12
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Sep 15 2008, 03:55 PM) [snapback]512687[/snapback]
My liver's in too good a state to make much sense of this. No doubt all will be revealed when the fog lifts smile.gif

It's quite clear to me that you just have difficulty in seeing anything-AND you drink too much!
mortonjag 2008-09-15 16:32:23
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 15 2008, 03:48 PM) [snapback]512684[/snapback]
Sounds like call centre material all of them tongue.gif

Don't get that in us lovely finance areas. In fact my break place has sky sports news on the telly and free browsing of the net. And the talent is quite superb surprisingly.

I think I like my job smile.gif

Asda checkouts?

QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 15 2008, 03:55 PM) [snapback]512686[/snapback]
You'll get struck off for doing that rolleyes.gif

Please refrain from mocking my medical condition!
mortonjag 2008-09-15 16:45:30
QUOTE(MaxTon1874 @ Sep 15 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]512694[/snapback]
Considering that Gretna won this league and went to the SPL. They were a team who were doing great until Brooks Mileson took seriously ill and had to stop funding the club. Before all the crap with him taking ill and them going bust because of funds, they had a chairman who wasn’t tight fisted and scared to buy SPL standard players for almost every position in the park. Davie irons and supper row had much more talent to choose a team from. I mean be serious what team in division 2 at the time could afford the likes of Innes, McGuffie, Skelton, Jenkins, Duechar, Tosh, Bingham, Grady, Main.

If Mileson Didn’t take ill and stopped funding them they would still be going strong. Are we a Gretna in disguise ehh NO, Are yous insane ?????????? What part of us is even close to the way Gretna were ??????? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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It's a f*cking bizarre illness which prevents others from signing cheques.

Mileson was a rogue and a charlatan who got pissed off with his wee game probably because he fell out with Alexander.

The fly man par excellence is still at large somewhere-possibly chatting to the Manager of some small County club as he doubles up as groundsman! rip.gif thumbdown.gif eek.gif nerd.gif bag.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-15 16:49:46
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 15 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]512708[/snapback]
The voices are explaining the rules to me at the moment..... i'll get back in a wee while.

I heard you're into classical music ape-something of a scherzo freak I'm led to believe.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 16:53:02
QUOTE(cataTONic @ Sep 15 2008, 04:49 PM) [snapback]512721[/snapback]
Ye I know and you are 'testing'. dry.gif

Four posts and already you are mocking my medical condition-the big Mod will have you-that will be fitting treatment for you Catty Tony.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 17:07:05
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Sep 15 2008, 04:47 PM) [snapback]512718[/snapback]
When did Dougie grow a ponytail? unsure.gif

Here he is leaving the Director's box

mortonjag 2008-09-15 17:09:23
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 15 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]512726[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-09-15 17:48:35
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 15 2008, 05:20 PM) [snapback]512736[/snapback]
If's but's and maybe's.
They didn't score. We got one more point than we acheived agiant them last season at Cappielow, despite poor individual performances and coming off the back of a drubbing.
It's about tim we had a manager who sorts the problems from the back forward - they looked comfortable on Saturday, now to work on the midfield, then attack.
Queens are a better footballing side thean ourselves and its about time a few people took a reality check.

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mortonjag 2008-09-15 17:51:46 Mocking my medical condition again I see-I shall set my guide dog upon you. He is fed on raw meat you know-raw meat!
mortonjag 2008-09-15 18:30:02
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 15 2008, 05:29 PM) [snapback]512738[/snapback]
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You'll be PC Plod then I take it. tongue.gif

I DO hope he has a healthy truncheon.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 18:31:17
QUOTE(forza ton @ Sep 15 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]512759[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-09-15 18:33:08
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 15 2008, 06:04 PM) [snapback]512754[/snapback]
I'll eat you dug dear doctor. laugh.gif

OMG-you're a cannibal! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-15 18:36:41
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 15 2008, 06:04 PM) [snapback]512757[/snapback]
Seeing as we're in that sort of mood today: a senior moment? unsure.gif

He announced it to me SPARROT-ask him if you disbelieve me-just mention Mortonjag!
mortonjag 2008-09-15 18:41:26
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 15 2008, 05:51 PM) [snapback]512745[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDStranger things have happened. I'm sure AD will be quite happy with the way things are progressing.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 18:45:04
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 15 2008, 06:23 PM) [snapback]512767[/snapback]
Name names.

Duncan, Douglas, Crawford, Arthur, Fred, Bill, Algernon-I know some ladies names too...

Matilda, Gertrude, Evangeline, Bridget, Senga.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 18:49:38
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 15 2008, 06:34 PM) [snapback]512782[/snapback]
Thought you were never wrong? happy.gif

Tesco?
mortonjag 2008-09-15 20:07:55
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 15 2008, 06:47 PM) [snapback]512791[/snapback]
You've insulted your own intelligence with that speculative nonsense.

Speculative nonsense eh! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-15 20:09:26
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 15 2008, 07:04 PM) [snapback]512800[/snapback]
Just couldn't find the back of the net!!

Goalie narrowed the angle?
mortonjag 2008-09-15 20:13:00
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 15 2008, 07:24 PM) [snapback]512806[/snapback]
Dean Keenan got a hat-trick on saturday.

Senga, Bridget, and Bernadette?
mortonjag 2008-09-15 20:16:10
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 15 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]512795[/snapback]
...never wrong and don't make mistakes, doing well sir

Put it this way, your council tax pays for me...thank you very much. smile.gif

Glasgow bin man?
mortonjag 2008-09-15 20:21:52
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 15 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]512821[/snapback]
What's this about ginger dwarfs...my ears are burning!

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mortonjag 2008-09-15 20:40:40
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 15 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]512829[/snapback]
You can tell just how old by the names you chose. laugh.gif Surprise you didn't go for Agnes.

Agnes is a dog.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 20:49:52
QUOTE(Julie-Anne @ Sep 15 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]512830[/snapback]
Theres a black swan with a red beak at Cardwell Bay.......Native to Australia but apparently a small number were brought to the UK for 'decorative purposes' and a few have escaped to the wild over the years!

Amazing..... rolleyes.gif

mortonjag 2008-09-15 20:58:26
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 15 2008, 08:45 PM) [snapback]512852[/snapback]
I'm descended from irish immigrants and i dont find it offensive...... besides celtic fans aren't exactly renowned for singing pleasant ditties towards rangers fans are they ?

both sides are as bad as each other and for one side to complain just smacks of hypocricy !
Anyway, f*** the Old firm !!! mad.gif

Of course they are and anybody who thinks otherwise is a biased c*nt.

I couldn't give a f*ck if both lots rip each other into tiny pieces, and I just wish all Morton fans shared that vision of reality.


oh and


GOD SAVE THE QUEEN


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mortonjag 2008-09-15 21:05:08
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 15 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]512857[/snapback]
His top was too small, he couldn't fillet.

For goodness hake!
mortonjag 2008-09-15 21:21:32 The Monkey just asked why so many people are interested in a thread about Proddies and Calf Licks, that's got nothing to do with Morton.
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mortonjag 2008-09-15 21:24:33
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 15 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]512902[/snapback]
Yeah, apparently he got pissed off because his younger brother had to pay sixsquid to get in.

Just as well nobody had knocked the purse.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 21:33:30
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 15 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]512900[/snapback]
For all CHC knows I could have a serious mental condition and he keeps referring to me as 'miserable'. Shocking really. mad.gif

It is extremely shocking. I'd imagine our posters have any number of medical conditions which they don't dream of complaining about. Morton fans are stoics. Who the f*ck does he think he is getting so bloody precious about his!

Anyway Davie-do you think that if I out myself as a manic depressive I can get him banned no matter WHAT he says about me? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-15 21:35:08
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 15 2008, 09:28 PM) [snapback]512914[/snapback]
MJ that looks nothing like me
I'm far hairier!

I got it from Princess-she claims she took it with a hidden camera! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-15 22:12:17
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 15 2008, 09:36 PM) [snapback]512926[/snapback]
Dr Mentaljag outs himsef as mental? That wouldn't be news. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 15 2008, 09:48 PM) [snapback]512930[/snapback]
Trying to get fellow posters banned now are you MJ, deary, deary me. rolleyes.gif

I'd encourage you to report any of my posts that you find or have found offensive and I will gladly accept any sanctions or punishments the mods deem to be appropriate.

Fill yer boots! laugh.gif

Twisting my words confuses me-have you no respect for my medical condition? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-15 22:17:02
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 15 2008, 09:29 PM) [snapback]512918[/snapback]
Which would be why its in General Nonsense - why are so many interested in say, Glasvegas?
The Monkey ought to be going to bed soon anyway... wink.gif

Fing sez ure kard's markt!

QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 15 2008, 10:10 PM) [snapback]512940[/snapback]
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Don't forget he hides it down his socks.

I'm off to flush Fatty O'Keech's heid doon the lavvy pan.

Don't do it-I didn't mean to be so cruel. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-15 22:19:28
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 15 2008, 09:29 PM) [snapback]512917[/snapback]
Pretty sure I said finance further up happy.gif

Provvy agent?
mortonjag 2008-09-15 22:21:53
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 15 2008, 09:29 PM) [snapback]512915[/snapback]
He did...think about it wink.gif

Angus has a lovely little pink botty.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 06:44:26 I'm skint



Oh-and yer football's crap too.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 06:56:24
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 16 2008, 01:39 AM) [snapback]512970[/snapback]
"We did a lot of research on David Irons, and found him to be an excellent coach, a man-manager, and I learned that he did most of the coaching and tactics at Gretna when he was the assistant to Rowan Alexander.

He is ambitious, as ambitious as myself and my family are for Morton, and we will now move towards achieving some realistic goals."
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Are you attempting to mock me Mr NewTon.

I shall be sending you another invoice if there's any more of your nonsense.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 06:58:02
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Sep 16 2008, 01:43 AM) [snapback]512971[/snapback]
Good.

Is your poosy's name Susie?
mortonjag 2008-09-16 07:06:42
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Sep 15 2008, 11:58 PM) [snapback]512958[/snapback]
That really is pretty ironic. They want more families at Cappielow yet they seem to be clamping down on the traditional 'punt over' for tiny kids... doesn't add up.

As it is, every time I take my son to games , without paying him in, it usually means that the club gets more money in the long run. Part of his day is to get food and drinks, which I never usually bother with if he's not with me, so inevitably while I'm up (or one of his uncles.. in case they read this!) getting things for him, we'll also buy something for the adults. So Morton got about another tenner for catering on Saturday that they wouldn't have had if my wee boy hadn't been there... they're being very short sighted on this.

I think I'll write to the club again on this... see if I get some acknowledgement this time. As it is I won't be taking my son back to Cappielow until I feel the entrance fee is value for money... right now he just sits at my feet eating and drinking and trying to dig up the terracing with the plastic stirrers! I had actually been looking at the official site last week about registering him for the 'Cappie' fan club... but they can take a hike.

My advice is that you write directly to Mary Davidson at Golden Casket.

Your first paragraph should explain that you've been a Morton supporter all your life, and have never stopped being grateful to Mr Rae for saving the club.

Go on to say that you are a single parent who has fallen on hard times, but that you still get to as many matches as you can afford-the trouble being that the cost for yourself AND your seven children under nine years of age has become prohibitive, and would it just be possible if you only had to pay for six on alternate visits.

I think that might do the trick.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 07:10:06
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 16 2008, 05:09 AM) [snapback]512979[/snapback]
Has anyone noticed the fish pun thread comes up once every couple of months? laugh.gif

The fish pun Fred is a bi-menstrual surface feeder.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 07:12:16
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Sep 15 2008, 09:31 PM) [snapback]512921[/snapback]
I confess that my eyesight isn't what it used to be although I'm rather proud of my liver as it's probably my best (and most checked) organ. The demon drink has not passed my lips for many a year now. However please desist from mentioning my long list of other complaints, deseases and all round deficiencies.

I'd not dream of mentioning your willie on here, wood eye?
mortonjag 2008-09-16 07:20:30
QUOTE(Strewthmiboab @ Sep 15 2008, 10:24 PM) [snapback]512947[/snapback]
If you are that bothered, why don't you check with the General Medical Council? If its fair game for Ali Donald to have his credentials checked I am sure mortonjag won't mind you having a wee look at his. LoL. That didn't cum out right there. Does it really matter?


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This could prove extremely interesting! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-16 07:24:46
QUOTE(forza ton @ Sep 15 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]512950[/snapback]
it's rich for rangers fans to be sending anyone "home". many,many immigrants who came from ireland to scotland were protestants from belfast who brought just as much bile with them as the other mob.

btw whats so offensive about "hun"? i just read a magic book about attila the hun smile.gif

Yeah-I just love the bit where he waves his orange wand and 'Abracadabra' all the Tims disappear with a big POUFFE.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 07:56:30
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 15 2008, 10:17 PM) [snapback]512943[/snapback]
Once again, if you feel that I have been insensitive to any medical condition you have on this or any other thread then I urge you report it to the mods who will take the appropriate actions.

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I presume the Mods would firstly arrange an independent medical assessment to prove or disprove the claimed 'medical condition'-you see-a wee photie would not always be sufficient! laugh.gif

QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 16 2008, 01:59 AM) [snapback]512975[/snapback]
who will take the appropriate actions.

Can one or more of the mods fix medical conditions ?

Where should I send my wee list ?

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mortonjag 2008-09-16 07:59:15
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 14 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]512167[/snapback]
Sorry, am I missing something here. Isn't a low mortality rate a good thing? unsure.gif

Not in poisonous snakes.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 08:04:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 16 2008, 07:49 AM) [snapback]512998[/snapback]
Gidday jag,

Should it not be nine children under 7 years of age ??

More mouths to feed ?

More children to become adult supporters.

Let them eat Millions.

I reckon seven children under nine years of age is just about physiologically possible, but nine under seven-naw!

Wee Bridget Murphy had ten under the age of fourteen. She had always wanted her own family football team but sadly had to give up with no inside left.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 08:08:28 [quote name='NewTon' date='Sep 16 2008, 07:50 AM' post='512999']
Sir, I am just quoting your own words.

Honest.
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You are twisting my words young man and I'll have none of it. I may indeed have written those words but my words are supposed to be interpreted properly. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-16 08:13:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 16 2008, 08:06 AM) [snapback]513010[/snapback]
why do you laugh at Italians ?

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Maybe somebody once rammed a double nougat up his arse sideways.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 08:43:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 16 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]513019[/snapback]
... you don't believe in multiple births ?

After she gave up, was wee Bridget's husband left right out ?

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I most certainly believe in multiple births-I can hardly move in Lidl's for bloody double buggies laden with weans and crates of Tennent's Lager.

Paddy wasn't really too bothered-he wasn't into football in a big way though he enjoyed the odd punt.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 08:51:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 16 2008, 08:31 AM) [snapback]513021[/snapback]
Dear sir,

I do my best to remember all your commandments, including:
The talking is about to stop!

The last instructions to the players have been given;



keep the ball on the ground

make passes

first to the ball

close them down fast

lie wide

get the ball over

be patient


are just a few of the instructions that have been assimilated in the minds of the players.
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And I am very pleased that the instructions that have been assimilated in the minds of the players.

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That's much better Mr Newton, and it filled me with pride and pleasure to see us move onward and upward with a sparkling performance against our old rivals from Dumfries, whose Chairman has the same name as me though he's younger and not so wealthy, and who has been my personal and great friend and rival since almost as long as I can remember, on Saturday when we were cruelly denied a thoroughly deserved victory by the woodwork which contrived to get in the way of Iain Russell, who's having a marvellous season don't you think's shot.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 09:09:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 16 2008, 09:05 AM) [snapback]513036[/snapback]
MJ, you REALLY are DDFR, aren't you.

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I am he.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 09:12:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 16 2008, 08:47 AM) [snapback]513027[/snapback]
Did they move from the Punt to the Euro to reduce the birth rate ?

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Indeed Newt-the price of reconditioned condoms dropped by 50% overnight.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 09:24:29
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 16 2008, 09:06 AM) [snapback]513037[/snapback]
Oh I'm sure they'd take your word for it, you were a doctor after all. rolleyes.gif

I am indeed a doctor and would not expect any special indulgences from our good Mods.

My take is that we should all be big enough to cope with our misfortunes without bleating about them.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 09:32:07 It doesn't matter in the slightest to me if one lot is perceived to be 'worse' than the other at any given moment.

They are both at it big style.

I think it's pointless dissecting the lyrics of some daft choon in an attempt to establish a pecking order for bigotry.

The big picture is that those who indulge their hatred in whichever form and to whatever degree do a disservice to their fellow fans and to Scottish football.

The authorities should attempt to take more preventive action.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 09:36:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 16 2008, 09:17 AM) [snapback]513046[/snapback]
Gidday beermonkey,

You can, but you may not.

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He'll work that one out by next Tuesday!
mortonjag 2008-09-16 09:41:17 I have e-mailed the club on several occasions without reply. On one occasion I then e-mailed Mr Rae's personal secretary, and have to say my enquiry was dealt with quickly and efficiently.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 09:43:39
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 16 2008, 09:41 AM) [snapback]513056[/snapback]
I once emailed them and asked them on their opinon on the Iraq war and never got a reply sad.gif

Perhaps it was the way you worded it.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 09:48:01
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 16 2008, 09:24 AM) [snapback]513050[/snapback]
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Oh but it is nonsense CHC. Just how long does it take for a derivative to become a language in its own right? Take your argument to its logical extreme and you'll be saying that all european languages are dialects of the Sanskrit. Is Scots Gaelic a dialect of Irish Gaelic? How 'indigenous' is that then?

In fifty years time that may very well be the case. shutup.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-16 09:51:28
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 16 2008, 09:48 AM) [snapback]513059[/snapback]
Quite possibly. However maybe they had better things to do like run a football club.

I agree wholeheartedly-I wish folk would stop sending them silly e-mails. They are clearly putting them right off the task in hand.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 10:01:18
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 16 2008, 09:54 AM) [snapback]513064[/snapback]
You're splitting hairs now you argumantative old sausage you, and well you know it! laugh.gif

I think most people would not consider Doric or Lellic to be anything other than a distinctive regional dialects of English. Few, with the exception of your good self, would argue that is a completely seperate language in it's own right.

Scots Gaelic, on the other hand, undisputably is.

I don't know enough about the differences between Irish and Scots Gaelic to give an opinion on that, though I suspect they two derivatives of the same language much like Afrikaans and Dutch. I believe for example the Scots and Irish gaelic speakers can, for the most part, understand one another in the same way that Dutch and Afrikaans speakers can.

Can you please inform me as to whether that is written in Lellic or Doric?
mortonjag 2008-09-16 10:34:55
QUOTE(GMFC14 @ Sep 16 2008, 10:15 AM) [snapback]513079[/snapback]
FUD!

What a bizarre nickname!

Was 'Fud' three years above you at school?
mortonjag 2008-09-16 10:41:07
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 16 2008, 09:59 AM) [snapback]513065[/snapback]
The difference here is that I actually mean it. The club do give oppertunities for fans to discuss such issues with them, more so than other clubs.

Cowshed.......

Instead of b!tching on here, have you tried contacting them directly, the one time that I didnt get a reply I contacted the club and was given different contact details and lo and behold I got a reply.

You might find that the club will give your enquiry a little more credit if you contact them and deal with them and not contact them and then come running on here when you dont hear from them.

The way some people talk about the club on here is like they hail from the home of the great unwashed.

Right i've had my bit, i'm now preparing to be slaughtered.

The club apparently answers e-mails when they feel it is appropriate.

QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Sep 16 2008, 10:03 AM) [snapback]513067[/snapback]
are you serious ??? tell us.. just how high a priority do you think the club should put on ignoring the very people they rely on for the finances needed to run the club.... get sensible will you, it is in fact a very serious issue, the club are continually ignoring and distancing themselves from the very people they are asking to come out and support them in the media !!

Douglas Rae and Morton have something that other clubs would cut their own hand of for.. fans who ACTUALLY want to spend some money and get INVOLVED in the club... yet they are constantly ignored or belittled ! dont make sense !

That would appear to be the case.



QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Sep 16 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]513090[/snapback]
belive me it sent... and they did recive it..... I also prefer to have things in writing, saves time having to prove things if I have to take legal action.

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mortonjag 2008-09-16 10:47:44
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 16 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]513068[/snapback]
I am a terrible speller MJ, I can't deny it, but thanks for reminding me nevertheless. blush.gif

We weren't all lucky enough to enjoy a Grammar School education you know! smile.gif

PS - Errors now correct (I think).

It was PISHLEY Grammar.

You call that luck! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-16 10:51:19
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 16 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]513085[/snapback]
Its all very hypocritical. Bigots on one side taunting bigots on the other side, oh wait, we all live in the one country.

I blame the divide imposed on our children when they reach five years of age.

I could not give a f*** about some tottie famine in a foreign land 150 years ago, the same as I don't give a f*** about a poofter side saddled on a horse over 300 hundred years ago.

Lets the morons get on with it.

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QUOTE(Boozehound @ Sep 16 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]513101[/snapback]
I completely disagree with that, although I'm only going on my own experience. In my opinion, Celtic fans are far more bitter and twisted than their Rangers counterparts, particularly in Inverclyde. I know followers of both teams though who genuinely don't give a sh*t about any of the baggage and merely follow them as football teams.

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Tweedledum and Tweedledee
Agreed to have a battle;
For Tweedledum said Tweedledee
Had spoiled his nice new rattle.

Just then flew down a monstrous crow,
As black as a tar-barrel;
Which frightened both the heroes so,
They quite forgot their quarrel.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 10:54:12
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 16 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]513095[/snapback]
I think it was all Mark Yardley's fault.

If 'ifs' and 'ands' were pots and pans, there'd be no work for tinkers!
mortonjag 2008-09-16 10:57:14
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 16 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]513106[/snapback]
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Will it ever get in?
mortonjag 2008-09-16 10:59:04
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 16 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]513111[/snapback]
A quick reply might have been down to thinking you were Ravanelli ph34r.gif

Not sure about the 'elli' bit! laugh.gif
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mortonjag 2008-09-16 11:17:48
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Sep 16 2008, 10:57 AM) [snapback]513114[/snapback]
It's true Doc, I genuinely know a few non-bigot OF fans. Seriously. ph34r.gif

Wasn't laughing at you Boozie-just at the whole ridiculous joke.

My partner's a Hun. She was at Ibrox on Saturday with her mate who's a Killie fan. I don't believe she's bigoted. Her previous (long term) partner was a Tim.

My son in law and daughter are Celtic fans-they don't seem bigoted either.

One of my sons is a Hun-he's married to a Jew who was a Catholic (kinda complicated!!!), and I don't think he's bigoted either.

Bernadette next door's a Tim-she goes to all the matches. She never comes across as bigoted.

Indeed I've just realised that I know quite a lot of OF fans who aren't bigots.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 11:24:12
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 16 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]513130[/snapback]
And I know bigots in many countries who are not supporters of the Old Scum.

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big·ot
–noun
a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.


Is the Chairman of Greenock Morton a bigot?
mortonjag 2008-09-16 11:30:19
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Sep 16 2008, 11:19 AM) [snapback]513128[/snapback]
i cant believe that so many people are burying their heads in the sand over this. the whole incident was clearly not as the official version would have us believe. buildings do not just fall down vertically floor by floor and land in a neat pile. also the explainationas about WTC7 are sketchy at best. Don't even get me started on the so called "plane" that hit the pentagon

I haven't really got involved in the thread. All I know is that about seven years ago a big plane flew into a big tower and it fell down.

Well that's what I've heard.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 11:34:29
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 16 2008, 11:27 AM) [snapback]513133[/snapback]
MJ, the examples you have given above are all good but the bigots I despise the most are those who are secrectly bigoted and its only when they let their guard slip you realise their true feelings.

I have come across many people like that in Scotland and some were people I knew for years and had never heard or seen any bigoted behaviour from previously.

I THINK I know what you mean. We are all a product of our upbringing. Sometimes it's hard to throw off old allegiances.

There is nothing inherently wrong with that provided they are contained within at all times.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 11:38:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 16 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]513118[/snapback]
what's survery ?

Is it painful ?

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It's a cross between surgery and carvery Newt.

Hacking is probably the nearest description.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 11:44:43
QUOTE(GMFC14 @ Sep 16 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]513129[/snapback]
FUD! is not pointed at Troy, but to the person who started this thread with the unnecessary title and sarcasm!

FUD!

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AH-now I understand.

Professor Piehole is not yet a fully qualified FUD-he has one or two exams to complete before he gets his B. Fd.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 11:50:32
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 16 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]513120[/snapback]
I hate rules.

That's quite a common condition which is only rarely fatal.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 12:06:23
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 16 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]513142[/snapback]
I can se hunners of wee eyes looking at me blink.gif

No sell by date on the tattie bag?
mortonjag 2008-09-16 12:08:23
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 16 2008, 11:57 AM) [snapback]513151[/snapback]
Is it not quite serious when you break it? unsure.gif

That's a common female mis-perception my Dear. The penis has no bone!
mortonjag 2008-09-16 12:15:57
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 16 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]513154[/snapback]
Is that why they are always so floppy? ph34r.gif

I might need to examine you to answer that precisely!
mortonjag 2008-09-16 12:20:48
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 15 2008, 09:50 PM) [snapback]512931[/snapback]
One of the worst IMO.

I hope your thoughts are still with the family.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 12:25:49
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 16 2008, 12:19 PM) [snapback]513157[/snapback]
I was asking for Big Blue Balls. ph34r.gif

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.......and got a floppy willie-well the two tend to go together my dear! Death treats the male genitalia unkindly.

Anyway the weather's SO miserable today-I've e-mailed God for the umpteenth time and had no response so I'm off for forty w*nks!
mortonjag 2008-09-16 15:14:39
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 16 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]513181[/snapback]
And where do you think the English language derived from? what was spoken on these shores a millenium past was not what you perseve as English, in fact English is a language derived from many others, ours included.
The Scots of Ireland, the Gaels of Argyle and the north, Strathclyde Tribesmen, Nordic Invaders. They have all contributed to 'our' present day language. You must also know that most of Scotlands clan names where given by the French.

So what if Gaelic is not the indigenous tongue, it WAS in Argyle, the Islands and the Western Highlands. I don't agree that we should all learn this language, but those who wish to should have every opportunity to do so.

In schools?
mortonjag 2008-09-16 15:18:22
QUOTE(Eagle Eye @ Sep 16 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]513185[/snapback]
InverclydeNow is reporting that the council is seeking voluntary redundancies, due to a £10m funding shortfall.

Which service would you get rid off??

Me, I'd get rid of the Community Warden service, 32 of them starting at £18k a year, plus overtime, and the running of their vans, and other associated admin costs.

Surely, that would make a huge dent in the funding shortfall!!!

It's not as if they do anything anyway laugh.gif

I would definitely start at the top and work down. Twenty or so top paid jobs in Directorates could save the Region a cool couple of million p.a. and nobody would know the difference. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-16 15:20:07
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Sep 16 2008, 12:22 PM) [snapback]513159[/snapback]
last night i was visited by his ghost, and he fixed my record player for me.

Is that a wind up?
mortonjag 2008-09-16 15:38:19
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 16 2008, 02:02 PM) [snapback]513201[/snapback]
It's a cross between the keyboard in my work canteen being shoite and the firefox in here not having the spell checker application I have on my own machine to flag up any times I do make a little typo here and there smile.gif

When was it last serviced?

QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 16 2008, 03:12 PM) [snapback]513242[/snapback]
I agree. In these hard times Mr Rae has not done anything for the fans, has he?

Oh c'mon Mrs T-that's OTT.

For starters I get to literally laugh myself to sleep after every game at Cappielow-sometimes I read the Chairman's Notes (now user 'friendly' entitled 'Welcome to Cappielow') three times over just for the pure enjoyment. The Monkey and Fing titter alongside.

Then there's the live entertainment-his latest gag involves putting on his Poundstretcher shades in the Director's box whenever Alistair Donald puts in an appearance-I think the old Fud quite likes rubbing shoulders with rich c*nts.

And those inimitable microphone performances-the Bobby Linn episode stands out as a classic---'Are you there Bobby'? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Just in case he hasn't noticed yet Bobby's gone.

Just in case anybody hasn't noticed, Mr Rae's still with us.

mortonjag 2008-09-16 15:44:49
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 16 2008, 11:05 AM) [snapback]513121[/snapback]
As 'insightful' as your original post
Yip
same difference, huns, skunks, all the same to me.


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QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 16 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]513186[/snapback]
True, that Ardgowan football development thing could get ugly, you never know when you'll need to call your lawyers for them not responding.

Seems like the club actually do respond according to the majority, and just ignore people trying to tell them how and how they shouldn't run their club.

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QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Sep 16 2008, 02:53 PM) [snapback]513232[/snapback]
or maybe it's the other way round.. they WILL respond to simple requests for information on exactly where the ground is, BUT ask them something interesting which would actually involve them telling you something about the FUTURE of the club, or the clubs LACK of interest in INVOLVING the wider community and you hear NOTHING...

by the way, I didnt try and tell them HOW to run the club, I asked a question of them... is that ok ?? !!

maybe the poll should have been more explicit, something like.. who has asked a pertinent question about the future of the club and been ignored... that ok with you ?

As I said earlier, the club appears to respond promptly to e-mails which it regards as appropriate.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 16:44:18
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 16 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]513306[/snapback]
Why should they respond to a question like that though? they have better things to do than respond to people asking things they have no interest in. You wouldn't get a response to that kind of question from any other club in this league or the SPL. If you want to know something about the club, something that the person who recieved them e-mail will know about then they will respond, if you ask them questions about why Morton hasn't got involved in something then they probably wont reply, i know i wouldn't. You wouldnt email tesco and tell them to open a south american cuisine section because there is a gap in the market for it and expect them to take you seriously and reply.

If someone came into your work and asked you why you aren't doing something differently you wouldn't waste your time on them either.

It may be a pertinent question for you, but it is not for me, probably lots of other fans and espescially the club.

There should be no problem in sending a simple acknowledgement. That is only common courtesy.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 16:59:10
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 16 2008, 04:08 PM) [snapback]513296[/snapback]
It was NOT confined to the areas you mention.

How can you say that, the English language has been influenced by so many variants it’s impossible to say it resembles any language spoken in 5th century Germania.

It contributed, nothing else, it wasn't the beginning of the English language. Scholars have argued for centuries where its main influences lie and you have just summed it up in one sentence the exact beginnings. You seem to think the Saxons arrived here speaking English, or a derivative.

What book is that quoted from btw?

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You have entered the world of SPARROT, Barbie.

Probably one of his recommended reading texts for his sixth year studies (or whatever fancy name it's now called). dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-16 17:03:46
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 16 2008, 03:51 PM) [snapback]513280[/snapback]
The bint who was sacked a few days ago - Siobhan McDonagh, worked to abolish the condition that would have stopped Cairns from beoming a minister - a morally untenable position.
Found this nugget on his BBC profile:
Remove him as our representative please. dry.gif

Are you a member of the electorate?
mortonjag 2008-09-16 17:09:01 I see Clatty Gymslip has been appointed as shadow health minister.

She and wee Nickerless will have fun knocking pointless lesbo lumps out of each other.

Should be fun! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-16 17:18:41
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 16 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]513321[/snapback]
Then they should set up an automated reply system, if all you're wanting is acknowledgement.

If i ask a question about the club then i'd expect a swift reply, if i asked a question about why Morton aren't tapping into the football team my cousin plays for because he's an excellent player then i'd expect to be ignored with the contempt i deserve.

Irrespective of the question asked, an acknowledgement should be sent. Not to do so breeds hostility and resentment from paying fans-something the Club desperately needs to avoid the way things stand.

Every question is legitimate-none deserves to be treated with contempt.

With specific reference to your example, how about this?

Dear Mr Port Ton,

Thank you for your enquiry. While we go to inordinate lengths to check regularly on the availability of all burgeoning local talent, we regret to inform you that our remit does not encompass Boys Brigade under thirteen reserve sides.

Assuring you of our best attention at all times,

Yours aye,


Mabawsa Ritchie.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 17:28:09
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 16 2008, 05:21 PM) [snapback]513338[/snapback]
I have got a feeling, although legitimate, that a response to that effect would just start a thread on here saying "MORTON DONT CARE ABOUT ......"

....and what would be unhealthy about that?
mortonjag 2008-09-16 17:35:08
QUOTE(Toby @ Sep 16 2008, 05:28 PM) [snapback]513342[/snapback]
I've e-mailed the club twice; firstly about tickets to the East Stirling Challenge Cup game last season as I expected to be in France for the Scotland game at the time the tickets would be released and got a pretty prompt response.

The second time was after the carry on with Gerry and myself at this season's Challenge Cup game at East Stirling when I got an e-mail reply within a few hours and gillian then phoned my mobile to discuss* the matter.

I'm critical of the club on a number of issues, but they do generally reply to my queries. However, were my queries through e-mails along the lines of my complaints at games/on the board/ at Q&As I wouldn't expect to hear a thing.

*Accept no responsibility for the actions of one of the club's employees.

So it WAS a Morton employee after all Toby?
mortonjag 2008-09-16 17:42:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 16 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]513340[/snapback]
This is fekin brilliant !!! laugh.gif Love it, love it.

Brown as someone else rightly says is dead man walking. Cairns and more than a few others who won't go public know this as well.
Cairns like every other Labour MP are starting to panic that they won't have a job should Brown stay.

Can't wait till Brown gets humiliated out of office. Icing on the cake would be Cairns losing his seat, closely followed by McNeil.

Is Bawheid responsible for the demise of New labour, Spurtle?

If so, I shall raise a glass to him! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-16 17:50:13
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 16 2008, 05:41 PM) [snapback]513347[/snapback]
When the club ignored my e-mail about the questions concerning the youth set up I also explained that I had asked the question at the Q+A and since the younger group of players are not involved at Pro Youth level I wanted to know if there was a time frame to return to the SFA development .

I am awaiting an answer from the Trust ( no sniggering MJ !!)


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QUOTE(Toby @ Sep 16 2008, 05:44 PM) [snapback]513350[/snapback]
Just speculating mj.

I know as much as you do.

The club were quite happy to brush it under the carpet in the hope it would go away rather than look at the interests of the unsavoury element of their support.

The 'Club's Rotweiler appears to be a past mistress of 'brushing things under the carpet'.

If there was nothing to hide, why all the deviousness, or is inherent deviousness simply a pre-requisite on the CV of all prospective employees of GMFC?

mortonjag 2008-09-16 18:06:10
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 16 2008, 06:01 PM) [snapback]513363[/snapback]
f***s sake, I looked again. ph34r.gif

Boozie, you have a way with words my friend, Mrs, please, please leave it. I would rather you spoke about Williemans exploits.

I heard she made off with them!
mortonjag 2008-09-16 18:16:56
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 16 2008, 06:11 PM) [snapback]513367[/snapback]
Don't be unhappy it was mt tenner crying.gif

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So are you now a shareholder with all the privileges that entails, or is that different?

I've tried to decipher the reams of official bumph the Trust publishes, and I'm really none the wiser.

I'd ask the Trust myself, but I'm skint and impatient.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 18:21:59
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Sep 16 2008, 06:17 PM) [snapback]513372[/snapback]
Yeah - and, going by some of the comments on ANOTHER thread, maybe while we're there we can watch all the Morton callcentre staff sitting around munching Millions and swigging champagne while ignoring phones ringing off the hook and emails by the dozen....... dry.gif

That's absolutely dreadful. I don't think people should be allowed to say things like that.

How many employees work in the Morton Call Centre? I'm sure it must be a very busy place. Do you work there too?
mortonjag 2008-09-16 18:42:37
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Sep 16 2008, 06:13 PM) [snapback]513368[/snapback]
Doctor,

Let me tell you about this problem from the start. A few years ago i started getting what I would call acid indigestion / heartburn. Things like gaviscon and other over the counder remedies were pretty much useless so I went to my doctor who prescribed a tablet called Lansaprasole.

At first the lansaprosole capsules helped my problem, I took a 30mg one every day for several weeks and then only took 15mg ones as and when was required.

Things went not too badly for a few years only having the odd recurrence of this ailment, however, in recent weeks, the problem has returned and this time it has been very bad.

I sometimes feel like the pressure at the top of my chest is going to coz my head to implode, or at least coz me to blackout. Sometimes when the pain is acute I thump my fist against my chest as if to try and clear some blockage.

As mentioned to you before doctor, I'm an alcoholic, In recent months I've managed to go periods of up to a couple of weeks without alcohol but this heartburn/trapped wind/acid indigestion problem still remains; I'm therefore not convinced the problem is simply related to alcohol.

I know I dont eat too healthy and regulalry include things like sausages/ tottie scones , bacon etc for breakfast and lots of soft drinks, when drunk I sometimes have a few cigarettes.

The last time I went to see my GP she suggested that I bring her a sample of anal waste to see if perhaps my gut is producing something it shouldnt be. I have to say, I felt embarassed by this, perhaps I shouldnt be.

Now I find I am wallowing up to 6 lansaprosole tablets per day and I feel they are not helping much at all. I was wondering if you had any advice on this matter. Perhaps I am not explaining it all very good. My GP doesnt simply want me to indefinately take lansaprosole, and after a few years of gradual and now rapid growth of the problem I'm begininng to wonder how it can be fixed.

I appreciate I may be a bit of a drama queen but please can you give me your opinion on it Doctor.

Firstly WDE I must say that any comments I make are those of a (presently) non-practising physician, and I can accept no responsibility of any kind should you act on my opinion.

I recommend that you consult your own GP who may well be half Mortonjag's age, far less experienced, and too busy to pay much attention, but he/she can pass the buck and get things done! smile.gif

It sounds to me like you are suffering from chronic reflux oesophagitis, (acid induced inflammation of the gullet), a condition frequently aggravated by poor diet, tobacco, and alcohol consumption. Other more serious gastro intestinal conditions are a remote possibility and I'd suggest things have reached a stage where you ought to be referred for endoscopy.

There is also a vague possibility that some of your symptoms may not be entirely related to your digestive tract (I've highlighted the relevant part of your text)., and I'd also want to check out your cardiological status just as a precautionary measure.

As stated earlier, this is my opinion and based solely on the information you have provided, and should not in any way be taken as Professional advice, nor as a substitute for consulting a real doctor. laugh.gif

mortonjag 2008-09-16 18:55:11 As you very well know Dr midTONs, 9 a.m. starts are no longer acceptable.

Surgery now commences at 7.30 a.m. to accomodate those very ill people who require urgent medical attention before heading off for work. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-16 19:03:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 16 2008, 06:32 PM) [snapback]513376[/snapback]
Bugger...I would have gotten caught if I was going on Saturday then

I'm sure you won't be grudging the club your pennies now that you are the recipient of previously untold wealth from some unfortunate employer! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-16 19:40:30
QUOTE(axeman @ Sep 16 2008, 07:22 PM) [snapback]513405[/snapback]
The man in question is pictured here. Those round about him will know who it is, so I wont pick him out individually, but he was quite quick off the mark exiting Sinclair Street after the game.
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What a let down-I saw lots and lots of people. I thought I spotted my Auntie Jessie up at the back, but then I remembered she's been dead for about forty years.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 19:43:34
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 16 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]513355[/snapback]
Make sure ye all get the Stadium tour ph34r.gif

...in the open topped bus? bag.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-16 19:50:32
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 16 2008, 07:27 PM) [snapback]513407[/snapback]
I had a similar problem although nowt to do with alcohol, i was eating Rennie's like they were going out of fashion. Went and seen the Army Doc and carried out a couple of tests ( Helicobacter )! Turned out positive and have been on the same medication ( Omeprazole ) for the past 4 years as i still have that problem albeit controlled with the medication.

Might be worth doing the same WDE !
Helicobacter
Omeprazole

Im sure MJ will know.

Helicobacter pylori is the organism which is largely responsible for the excessive acid associated particularly with duodenal ulcer. It's normally treated with a combination of two antibiotics and a drug like omeprazole or lanzoprazole (triple therapy).

Long term treatment with either of the drugs mentioned does not eradicate recurring Helicobacter, but keeps acid production minimal.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 19:54:49
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 16 2008, 07:45 PM) [snapback]513425[/snapback]
Staff training on a Monday morning (ex) Dr Jag, you've been away from it to long. laugh.gif

I'll EX-Dr Jag you, you cheeky scamp. I may not currently be in practice, but


MORTONJAG WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE MEDICALLY QUALIFIED!


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mortonjag 2008-09-16 20:06:54
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 16 2008, 07:57 PM) [snapback]513437[/snapback]
would that be the same one that frequents the cemetery? unsure.gif

No that's me on one of my grave robbing trips!
mortonjag 2008-09-16 20:09:00
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 16 2008, 07:29 PM) [snapback]513411[/snapback]
I was referring to plastic whistle.

That's OK!
mortonjag 2008-09-16 20:12:30
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Sep 16 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]513426[/snapback]
I've sent the same email to the club a total of 8 times since about August. Still have received no reply.

In which case I find it hard to understand the 2/3ds who appear satisfied. How can an e-mail be ignored eight times. It must SURELY be a mistake on your part! unsure.gif

QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 16 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]513441[/snapback]
ask away...

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He answered!
mortonjag 2008-09-16 20:15:53
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Sep 16 2008, 07:48 PM) [snapback]513430[/snapback]
Is that the Jag directly above me with the grey jaiket and nae teeth??? wink.gif

Ahl nae teesh ye ya dishreshpectful shlob.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 20:20:06
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 16 2008, 07:57 PM) [snapback]513438[/snapback]
Games at Cappielow aren;t enjoyable anyway - a mixture of mediocrity and the general stupidity of more than a few fans.

There, there-I wouldn't let those more than a few generally stupid and mediocre fans stop your enjoyment Einstein. Just think E = MC2, buy a pie and Bovril, and focus on the festival of football.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 20:23:02
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 16 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]513447[/snapback]
dont want to ignore you biggrin.gif


I didn't see you on Saturday-did you not go for your usual widdle?
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 16 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]513452[/snapback]
Since about August. So your sending it roughly twice a week. Maybe you should change tactic about phone them and not use your keyboard ph34r.gif

What is your connection with the Club?
mortonjag 2008-09-16 20:26:26
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 16 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]513414[/snapback]
Christ Andy, I know you'd shag a barber's floor and all that, but surely even you aren't that desperate? ohmy.gif

There you go ridiculing Andy's medical condition.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 20:30:46
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 16 2008, 07:48 PM) [snapback]513429[/snapback]
On the basis of it being an indigenous language it was - looking at it from a pre-6th century timeframe.

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'before the sixth century' my child. You'll really have to get all this SPARROTTING sorted. University lecturers will be singularly unimpressed-they get about fifty of you to every independent thinker!

I'm genuinely trying to help.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 20:33:45
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 16 2008, 07:45 PM) [snapback]513424[/snapback]
I shall be for upcoming elections yes.

I'll take that as a 'No'!
mortonjag 2008-09-16 20:49:36
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 16 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]513462[/snapback]
Do shut up, you tired old windbag.

Why should I? That was neither offensive nor witty. Are you too arrogant to accept that you are wrong? I still learn from my mistakes. laugh.gif

I honestly object to your repeated assaults on our language. They are neither original nor smart and will fool nobody with a modicum of intelligence.

They certainly WON'T cut any ice with lecturers who are seeking original thought and individual presentation-lecturers sickened every academic year by a glut of incoming SPARROTS who inevitably have to learn the hard way, if at all.

I AM genuinely trying to help. I would give my own children exactly the same advice, and tan their arses if they gave me half the cheek I've had to tolerate from you. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-16 20:58:15
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 16 2008, 08:53 PM) [snapback]513474[/snapback]
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And what condition would that be then? laugh.gif

In my experience folk who are wont to shag floors generally benefit from psychological referral.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 21:01:30
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 16 2008, 08:36 PM) [snapback]513466[/snapback]
You'll take it as utterly beside the point - unless my views on David Cairns ineptitude are likely to change vastly in the next 13 days. I can pretty much guarantee that they won't.

'my opinion that David Cairns is inept'. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-16 21:07:23
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 16 2008, 08:26 PM) [snapback]513458[/snapback]
Just a fan who is a bit sick of the club being pillered left right and centre. I go to the games, just like you. Sometimes i'm even sitting behind you.


laugh.gif That's a very dangerous place to sit. I wasn't aware that we'd been introduced!
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 16 2008, 08:31 PM) [snapback]513461[/snapback]
was being wined and dined inside

Lucky boy!
mortonjag 2008-09-16 21:09:26
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Sep 16 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]513463[/snapback]
E=MC2

I know, but I don't know how to do that on this keyboard!
mortonjag 2008-09-17 08:23:54
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 16 2008, 09:45 PM) [snapback]513497[/snapback]
Its funny, you were alot quieter without your keyboard.

Hmm!


Rat alert?


OK non-insider-answer one simple question-were you sitting behind me on Saturday?

A simple 'Yes', or 'No' will suffice at this stage. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 08:33:49
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 16 2008, 10:09 PM) [snapback]513510[/snapback]
I dont disagree, but it would be helpful if it was constructive and meaningful. This is a perfect example, if your some is that annoyed about getting a response then contact the club via a different means, coming on here isn't going to resolve anything.

I believe that coming on here, as you put it, has resolved many issues-mainly indirectly- by uniting the fans, collating opinion, and prompting some to alternative action.
When confidence in the club is at an all time low, when there is OVERWHELMING evidence of incompetence in several areas, and when several posters have documentary evidence of the utterly amateurish and slipshod way in which 'business' is conducted, you may find that your Sir Galahad behaviour on this thread will be less effective than asking Mr Rae an unwelcome question.

QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 17 2008, 12:38 AM) [snapback]513555[/snapback]
Why should he? On the club info page on gmfc.net it lists two email addresses you can use to contact the club - info@gmfc.net is for general enquiries. Before all the various means of contacting the club are listed it says:
For the record I've contacted the club via email once and received a reply quite quickly.

NO MORE SHOULD NEED TO BE SAID!
mortonjag 2008-09-17 08:39:09
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 17 2008, 12:05 AM) [snapback]513544[/snapback]
why the unnecessary title? If he looked like Zinedine Zidane and he said why didn't Zidane get on then there wouldn't be a problem, you're too quick to play the race card and if people can't say that black people look like other black people because it is offensive then it is infact the fact that he isn't allowed to say it that is racist, and not him. We're all equal, we all look like other people...i see myself as a young Richard Pryor.

...and your arse fits my hand like a glove.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 08:42:53
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Sep 16 2008, 09:14 PM) [snapback]513483[/snapback]
Really? Silly people like you should be banned. From Cappielow and the massage board.

Without Mortonjag this pubic massage board would be a common or garden message board.

QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 16 2008, 09:57 PM) [snapback]513503[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-09-17 08:46:26 It's clearly symptomatic of the current malaise at Cappielow that intelligent fans are reduced to debating the pros and cons of getting a rare goal from a long throw in! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 09:38:00
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 16 2008, 09:28 PM) [snapback]513491[/snapback]
The fact of the matter is I do not care what you think. The days of Mortonjag at university must be a distant memory to you - enjoy your reminiscing if you will, but I can't be arsed getting into tedious debate over semantics.

That's crystal clear. You may come to accept the folly of your attitude. You are after all a mere seventeen year old child.

You will get quite a 'dunt' when you enter University life. It happens every year when arrogant young sprats leave their small ponds for the open sea.

Among umpteen other bright youngsters on this massage board, you stand out like a sore thumb - a classical example of unbridled youthful arrogance. Their simple observations repeatedly put you to shame.

I find your literary style offensive. Your 'statements of opinion' laugh.gif are grossly padded out, presented in an unnaturally grandiose manner, and smack suspiciously of arrant plagiarism.

It just doesn't work son. rolleyes.gif

Regarding your standard ageist comment, I continue to be regularly amazed by the preconceived ideas of our child posters.

Mortonjag is FAR closer to the inner workings of University life than you are ever likely to get.

That my boy, is fact. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 10:01:37
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 17 2008, 08:51 AM) [snapback]513576[/snapback]
Did'nt Jim McAlister come from there?


I think Jimbo had been with them but officially came to us from a Linwood side.

mortonjag 2008-09-17 10:03:13
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Sep 17 2008, 09:21 AM) [snapback]513580[/snapback]
thought you were ONLY a fan ??? so whose the we then ? you and your dad !

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mortonjag 2008-09-17 10:07:20
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 17 2008, 09:41 AM) [snapback]513583[/snapback]
Another text quote. Feck me you have a narrow outlook.

Looking at it from a pre-6th century timeframe, I'd imagine that's inevitable! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 10:15:13
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 16 2008, 11:34 PM) [snapback]513537[/snapback]
I've heard of it sure, but never seen it. Tell me this Col, do you reckon it's genuine? Or is it a replica and you've got the original stowed doon yer dunny next to the stone of destiny? biggrin.gif And where do you reckon St Columba is planted ? Some Irish claim his bones are next to Saints Paddy and Brigid in Downpatick, and some Scots say he's laid under holy ground in Iona. Maybe there's bits of him in both places. I wonder if he existed at all, but that's just me having no faith and being sceptical.

Is that where he hid her?
mortonjag 2008-09-17 10:26:01
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 16 2008, 09:25 PM) [snapback]513489[/snapback]
I missed an apostrophe.
Nothing better to do with your time I presume?

It had nothing to do with the absent apostrophe SPARROT!

Your stilted comment implied pre-existing ineptitude on which you were airing views.

I merely suggested that 'my opinion that David Cairns is inept' was a more accurate description of your thought process.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 10:51:54
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 17 2008, 10:35 AM) [snapback]513595[/snapback]
She was only the fishermans daughter, but she knew her plaice and how to fillet. biggrin.gif

They say airline pilot's wives' c*ckpits are rarely unoccupied.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 11:35:56
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 17 2008, 11:23 AM) [snapback]513604[/snapback]
Is he still seeing his very young girlfriend, is it love? wub.gif



I once had a girl, or should I say, she once had me...
She showed me her room, isn't it good, norwegian wood?

She asked me to stay and she told me to sit anywhere,
So I looked around and I noticed there wasn't a chair.

I sat on a rug, biding my time, drinking her wine
We talked until two and then she said, "It's time for bed"

She told me she worked in the morning and started to laugh.
I told her I didn't and crawled off to sleep in the bath

And when I awoke, I was alone, this bird had flown
So I lit a fire, isn't it good, norwegian wood.


Poor Willy Man!
mortonjag 2008-09-17 12:09:01
QUOTE(dazed @ Sep 17 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]513608[/snapback]
*shudders*

What makes you think they may have a wee fancy for each other? I also see Hatchet Pauline Mc neil has been rewarded for her liking for all things Wendy by being demoted.

I don't, though I think they are both singularly unfeminine. Nickerless badly needs a shave and Clatty Gymslip's hair looks like it's never seen shampoo..........


and the one knows as little as the other about the NHS and penises.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 12:17:01
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 17 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]513614[/snapback]
A couple of years ago we had overpaid our rent and I spent 9 weeks before getting the money back while they checked for arrears .
When I finally got some money back they had taken nearly 200 quid off the total for poll tax ? from 89-91 when I was in England working but they wanted proof ?? Which I couldn't provide .

As MJ posted how can the management be retained when they are clearly failing their budgetary restraints .

Council tax collection is an absolute quagmire and not confined to Inverclyde.

On one occasion my wife and I were billed three years later for CT we didn't owe on a property we'd briefly rented.

I argued and argued and eventually they admitted that we might have a point, but they claimed they were unable to do anything until the matter was in the hands of Sheriff's Officers, at which point we could again dispute the charge.

I told them to go ahead, and five years on and divorced neither of us has heard a cheep.

They seem to work on the principle that everybody is a cheat!
mortonjag 2008-09-17 12:23:42
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 17 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]513618[/snapback]
Is it made of Chocolate?

It's certainly a work of art. I've heard that the foundations are made of toffee, the shell is fondant, and only the outer skin is made of chocolate. That's apparently the ideal structure for minimal damage in a terrorist air strike.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 12:28:20
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Sep 17 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]513623[/snapback]
progressive collapse is a theory - not scientific fact

I'm sure Mr Rae will be heartened by your opinion.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 12:47:18
QUOTE(EBu @ Sep 17 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]513628[/snapback]
You sure that wasn't "MEDICALLY CERTIFIED"? wink.gif
Hope you feel better again soon WDE, its hellish when you cant see a way to cure it but hopefully the advice on here will help you out.

That's a slightly outdated expression, though I'm certain some posters would love to see Mortonjag sectioned! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 12:52:54
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 17 2008, 10:24 AM) [snapback]513590[/snapback]
No one said it did,

but if you look back at the thread's original post, he was asking a question for others on here and curious as to how at anytime of doing, did they get on when contacting the club by email wink.gif

Little Jack Horner sat in the corner because he had a square arse.

Little Jack Horner sat in the corner because Cappielow was stowed out.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 12:59:47 I keep noticing strange sounding names, and always forget to write them down.

Over the years I've come across one or two in real life. Phil McCracken was indeed very attractive while Isa Cumming looked very plain.

What are yours?
mortonjag 2008-09-17 13:38:53
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 17 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]513646[/snapback]
Just saying on the news that Halifax Bank of Scotland is going to be taken over by Loyds TSB. Things must be getting bad! ohmy.gif

I'm presuming Mrs Thatcher's to blame for all this, and I just wish Bawheid would sort it out now.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 13:45:55
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 17 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]513600[/snapback]
Now now MJ, it was a couple of big High Flats that came down. Should have got the demolition mob in who done the Gorbals flats a couple of years back, they only killed one person.

They demolished two of the Shawbridge blocks a month ago-no distance from here-they came down perfectly straight-is that not what's meant to happen with gravity?
mortonjag 2008-09-17 13:54:22
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 17 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]513662[/snapback]
Guess what I wont be listening to and at what time wink.gif

An older and wiser poster at all times? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 13:58:39
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 17 2008, 01:55 PM) [snapback]513664[/snapback]
Who has their head in the sand now? Football fans self policing... laugh.gif The only way you're comments could have any validity was if you were a totty bowl regular. So what brings you here? Neither side holds the moral high ground here, as you said yourself, bad as each other. So for you OF scum who come on here to try and get one over on each other why don't you just take your crap back to the totty bowl or mordor and f*** off and leave us alone?

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mortonjag 2008-09-17 15:25:53
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 17 2008, 02:08 PM) [snapback]513671[/snapback]
Aah ! one of those questions you refuse to answer yourself. dry.gif

It was a genuine question in response to what I hope was a genuine poster.

Who rattled your cage anyway Professor? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 15:29:26
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Sep 17 2008, 02:21 PM) [snapback]513680[/snapback]
I must be wrong (the fact that he lives down the road from me has nothing to do with it dry.gif ). Anyway this is getting tedious so this is my last post on the subject. You can relax now.

Whether he lives 'down the road' or whether he lives beside fanny baws is of no help to posters who still don't have a bloody clue who they are supposed to be looking for among umpteen fans in a picture.

I still can't see the point in posting it!
mortonjag 2008-09-17 15:38:26
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 17 2008, 02:55 PM) [snapback]513690[/snapback]
You're one to comment about standard ageist comments. I've read your thoughts and I'll treat them with the same respect I treat junk mail or dog turds, thanks.

Digest them VERY carefully son. They are intended to be helpful even though they appear distasteful.

QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 17 2008, 03:15 PM) [snapback]513702[/snapback]
Will you please STOP banging on about the 6th century, is that the chapter you have reached. sad.gif

Gaelic did not originate in our west or north western shores.

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QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 17 2008, 03:21 PM) [snapback]513706[/snapback]
Under what context of 'originate'?

o·rig·i·nate
–verb
1. to take its origin or rise; begin; start; arise:

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mortonjag 2008-09-17 15:42:42
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 17 2008, 03:02 PM) [snapback]513695[/snapback]
David Cairns' ineptitude is a general statement of fact.
I thought this was a message board about opinions, or do we have to put IMO after each and every statement to please the sadder pedants among us?

David Cairns' ineptitude is a matter of opinion son. The fact that you and I may agree does not alter the presumptuous inaccuracy of your original posting.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 16:26:10
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 17 2008, 03:43 PM) [snapback]513723[/snapback]
I had slice and sausages for lunch.


Good for you-you appear to approach your diet with the same scant regard as you claim to have for Mortonjag's helpful words. Could this be 'the healthy heart seen in a pre 6th century timeframe'?
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 17 2008, 03:45 PM) [snapback]513727[/snapback]
Watch you heart, the doctor may have it on a plate.

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mortonjag 2008-09-17 16:37:03
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 17 2008, 02:58 PM) [snapback]513693[/snapback]
2000 years and still practising, i'd give up if I were you.

Who do you support anyway, seems you have leanings towards the plastics.

Edited to add:ITS DOUGIE HIMSELF, well who else would be on a Morton site praising the conduct of Sellic fans. The bestest ever, super dooper fans in the world.

Look here my good fellow, I've been supporting Morton from the heart of my bottom since before you were a twinkle in your father's eye, and let me assure you that I have never ever on any occasion suggested that Celtic fans are much better than Rangers fans, let alone much, much better than our own faithful supporters who bring their friends to Cappielow through thick and thin and buy my sweeties. I was talking to a couple of arse lickers some loyal Morton fans only this week and they commented that things are really looking up after our excellent draw with Queen of the South in which we were robbed of all three points because the referee only sent off one of their players.

QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 17 2008, 03:39 PM) [snapback]513721[/snapback]
Listen wee man, if you come on here to defend either of the OF you're gonnae get shot doon! You've opted to take sides on the issue and on here that doesn't cut it. It's a Morton site and we try and distance ourselves from all that sectarian s***e! Stick tae the REAL hoops, you know it makes sense!

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mortonjag 2008-09-17 16:44:46
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 17 2008, 03:46 PM) [snapback]513729[/snapback]
Has that actually been historically proven? It's currently established by historians that the people's of Kintyre and Northern Ireland held many cultural similarities: could Gaelic have originated in Argyll before spreadig into Ireland?
By asking for the contxt I was asking whether you were alluding to their earlier development of Celtic languages.

HMM! laugh.gif

SPARROT, my Daddy-God rest his soul-was an eminent local archeologist and historian, who undoubtedly took the same view as Barbarossa, though-unlike Barbie-he was not BORN in the fifth century. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 16:49:12
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 17 2008, 04:10 PM) [snapback]513741[/snapback]
I love this board! Even when we're "disagreeing" I feel part of a special thing. It's a Scottish flavour that I've really missed as an exile, humour with an edge and often dark. I have always felt being Scottish was somehow special and when I ask myself what other nationality I'd like to be I can't think of anything else. That's not putting anyone else down and I'm sure they feel the same way about their country but I'm just glad I was born Scottish and brought up to support "The Ton!".

Just wanted to share that with you.

Effin ship jumper! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 16:57:34
QUOTE(Doc @ Sep 17 2008, 04:43 PM) [snapback]513754[/snapback]
Now you guys are talking my language...

WDE...what you describe is classic symptoms of inflammation of the eosophagus. Sounds as though your GP is treating it on the assumption it is reflux which, especially given your lifestyle comments, seems likely. Lanzoprazole is one of a class of drugs known as proton pump inhibitors (PPI's). They work by reducing the amount of acid your stomach can release. If you have the 30mg tablets, two a day is normal. In the same way, antacids neutralize the acid in your stomach and antihistamines such as Zantac reduce the acid release (NOTE: these antihistamines are REALLY different from the ones we pop for allergies!).

One question: do you or your family have any allergies or a history of allergies? Any trouble swallowing pills or food (leaving this open for jokes here! )? If you have been on any of these drugs for several months (it can take more than 3 months for symptoms to improve since your eosophagus has to actually heal itself after the acid is reduced) and still see no improvement, there might be another explanation. There is a disease known as eosinophilic esophagitis (EE) which is frequently misdiagnosed as chronic reflux. Most GP's are too quick to assume reflux and we frequently see patients who have been on Lazoprazole etc for years, only for us to them identify the condition as EE. A biopsy will be able to tell. Might want to discuss it with your doctor if you keep being unresponsive to the PPI's or antacids. If it is EE, these drugs really won't help and you would need anti-allergy drugs or changes in your diet to eliminate certain foods. Think of it like asthma or food allergy but up in your eosophagus.

Nice to hear another Doc's opinion. I guess you have no cure for the Ton!

I've already suggested that endoscopy is in order, and given the somewhat atypical description of his high retrosternal pain wonder if a routine cardiological assessment might not go amiss to eliminate the possibility of dual pathology.

mortonjag 2008-09-17 17:01:41
QUOTE(Dougie @ Sep 17 2008, 04:55 PM) [snapback]513759[/snapback]
Hence the question if we are distancing ourselves why even bother discussing it? I am putting accross a different point of view, does that mean because it differs fae yours it isn't valid? In fact what is the point of having a f**king debate where we all say the exact same f**king thing. I stand by what I say with regards that, Celtic do not have as much of a sectarian element in their songs at the games. In their pubs and clubs, granted they are just as bad, but Rangers have a real issue with Large sections of their support at the games. Obviously Uefa and the SPL agree as Rangers have been warned off of both these organisations over this issue.

So you agree that they are all bigoted b*****ds.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 17:03:51
QUOTE(Deego @ Sep 17 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]513757[/snapback]
I make this board what it is. I am the king.

Stop smoking-I don't like a nicotine stained tadger.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 17:09:09 F*CK GIANTS
mortonjag 2008-09-17 17:12:43 Rhoda Harden

Shona Legge


Keep them coming! As long as they could be genuine they've probably existed somewhere.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 18:24:24
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 17 2008, 06:19 PM) [snapback]513811[/snapback]
I dunno, must be worth it if you're in it somewhere. wink.gif rolleyes.gif

I'm sure ballboy would be able to identify me! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 18:26:56
QUOTE(TigerTon @ Sep 17 2008, 05:58 PM) [snapback]513801[/snapback]
guy in my last work was called Wullie Wiper laugh.gif

I'm sure Fanny Aitken would appreciate that sort of partner!
mortonjag 2008-09-17 18:30:33
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 17 2008, 06:00 PM) [snapback]513804[/snapback]
I believe that such fillums do exist in the wacky world of the interweb. rolleyes.gif

Midgets or dwarves?
mortonjag 2008-09-17 18:36:41
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 17 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]513783[/snapback]
Thanks for the plug..... and don't forget folks..... there's a 10% discount for greenockmorton.org* members! thumbup2.gif

* Apllies to members of at least 6 months and have made more than 50 posts.
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Do I get for free then. The Monkey and Fing are house trained. blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 18:47:22
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 17 2008, 05:17 PM) [snapback]513771[/snapback]
Everything in moderation Doctor - an apple previously and washed down with a glass of cranberry juice - although you'd likely feel the benefits of the juice more than myself. blush.gif

Through a pre 6th century timeframe perhaps!

Pomegranate juice is the 'in thing'. I thought you'd have known that!

Pomegranate or 'seedy apple'.

Here's a description you'd have been proud of SPARROT!

a chambered, many-seeded, globose fruit, having a tough, usually red rind and surmounted by a crown of calyx lobes, the edible portion consisting of pleasantly acid flesh developed from the outer seed coat.

Your education just goes on and on and on. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 18:51:18
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 17 2008, 06:14 PM) [snapback]513808[/snapback]
Are you sure? rolleyes.gif

Yes my Dear, I'm entirely sure-convinced even!
mortonjag 2008-09-17 18:58:46
QUOTE(Doc @ Sep 17 2008, 05:41 PM) [snapback]513793[/snapback]
The cardio work-up sounds like a good, safe idea also, Mortonjag but we often see the retrosternal pain in EE too. Its turned out to be quite an amazing area to work in. We're seeing 5-10 new patients a month being referred from gastro for allergy testing (referral based on failure to respond to PPI therapy and a positive biopsy for eosinophils >15 per hpf) and about 80% are EE. When we skin test them, they are INSANE responders...much worse that any asthmatic or food allergy patient. In the last year, we have had three patients go into systemic anaphylaxis on skin testing and all have been EE patients. The interesting thing is that almost all of them don't seem to feel that affected. They all complain of reflux-like pain and occational problems swallowing pills or food. The field are now beginning to think that EE might be much more frequent that current estimates and that the bottom of the iceberg is walking around, living with symptoms or being treated with PPIs or histamine blockers.

Amazing stuff!

I can still remember seeing vagotomies and pyloroplasties being done 'ten a penny' for D.U.! The more we know, the more we don't know. smile.gif

QUOTE(forza ton @ Sep 17 2008, 06:15 PM) [snapback]513809[/snapback]
mj's pure RAGING cos we have another doctor on board

" i said it first! not him, me!!!!!!!"

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If ALL the other posters were doctors, Mortonjag would indeed be a happy bunny.

Unfortunately he had to contend day and daily with you lot! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 19:06:28


QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 17 2008, 05:22 PM) [snapback]513774[/snapback]
I've been working undercover doon here for SNIPE (ScotsNatsIntelligencePartyExecutive). I've given my best years for the cause, shagging as many women as I could to recruit youngsters for the exec in the future(got that idea from the Gerries). London is now full o' wee gingers waiting for the call to arms! It's hard to take that abuse when I have sacrificed so much for my ain folk. I am wounded MJ.

Aye right!

RAVEN I heard

Ride a virgin every night. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 19:11:58
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 17 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]513825[/snapback]
Shame about yourself. blush.gif

Bloody hell-news travels fast-anyway that's me back upstairs with only my injured pride to nurse.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 19:14:54
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 17 2008, 06:51 PM) [snapback]513829[/snapback]
I thought goji berries had beaten the pomegranate when it came to fad fruits...
Without your cranberries yo'd have problems with excretion, the sourness matches you personality too. blush.gif

I'm talking about the prophylaxis of prostatic carcinoma boy, and once you develop an adult palate, you'll find cranberry juice rather pleasantly sweet.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 19:18:08
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 17 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]513838[/snapback]
A virgin? Doon here? More chance of a w**k from Her Maj or His Holiness! laugh.gif

50 euro for a Holy Willie hand job! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 19:55:18
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 17 2008, 06:28 PM) [snapback]513816[/snapback]
was his question really a general enquiry? He asked the clubs opinion on Ardgowan football development, although really he asked Gillian's opinion of it. Is Gillian meant to run and find Dougie and be like " Dougie Dougie, quick answer...whats your opinion of the Ardgowan football development? quicky! there is someone waiting for an urgent response at his keyboard. "

If you ask a question about the club, then 9 times out of 10 you will get a swift reply.

You are being a knotty boy again!

The issue is about responding or otherwise my dear.

Thank you kindly for your e-mail, but I regret to say that at this juncture the Club is unable to comment.

Kind regards

Ballboy.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 20:10:23
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Sep 17 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]513844[/snapback]
18GMFC74, you are annoying. Every one of your posts are moaning about something. I asked a question and yet again you manage to get a moan in. God sake man.

Just ignore the little knobend.

Where indeed is Alistair Donald?

The share issue is projected over five years by which time God will we 82 if he's still with us.

IMHO it's just a smokescreen to keep the fans thinking something's happening.

Rae 'took on' AD in January thinking it would cover his arse with the public when things were 'the pits'.

AD made him an offer-Rae said double it-AD said 'Naw' thinking 'I can bide my time-I'll con Crawford into a wee share issue for stadium development' and the two of us can sit pretty-let's face it he can't go on for ever'.


Something like that.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 20:15:16
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 17 2008, 08:10 PM) [snapback]513855[/snapback]
well if this is your biggest problem with the club then we must be running things pretty well. Unfortunately for me getting an email back from the club saying theyre not able to comment doesn't even come into concerns i have about the club or the way it is run.

Good gracious-I got the impression you were defending the club! laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 20:21:06
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 17 2008, 07:19 PM) [snapback]513843[/snapback]
Depends upon the volume of glucose-fructose syrup added by the supermarket - or does Mortonjag grow his own?

My cranberry cloches are adjacent to my cellar SPARROT. Would you like to visit my cellar-for an inquisitive child like you it holds many mysteries. The Monkey and Fing will be happy to take you on a guided tour while Mortonjag prepares your last supper.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 20:31:31
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 17 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]513852[/snapback]
I can't feel anything. sad.gif

I know how you feel!

QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 17 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]513858[/snapback]
I'm missing him. Someone will have to cheer me up. unsure.gif

Why did the chicken cross the road?
mortonjag 2008-09-17 20:35:34
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 17 2008, 08:32 PM) [snapback]513874[/snapback]
No, but since it's you I'll throw in a free boadband connection so we don't have to go without your scintillating patter. smile.gif

Will it work on the beach?
mortonjag 2008-09-17 20:41:23
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 17 2008, 08:17 PM) [snapback]513861[/snapback]
Its not as black and white with me as it is with you. tongue.gif

I don't hate the club or the people who run it, if they're doing something i don't think is right then i'll comment on it, if i think they're doing something right then i'll praise them and if i think they are being unfairly criticised i will say so.

I live in the grey area y'see MJ, and no...i don't mean your pubes!

Cheeky brat-only last weekend you complimented me on that lovely auburn hue!

QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 17 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]513869[/snapback]
Nope.

I only sit at away games when i have to.

You appear to suggest that you are acquainted with me. I know nobody by the name of 'ballboy'.

Morton were at home on Saturday.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 20:46:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 17 2008, 08:19 PM) [snapback]513862[/snapback]
IMHO it's just a smokescreen to keep the fans thinking something's happening.

Gidday mortonjag,

That's a wee bit harsh, mate.

However, why was the issue announced so soon ?

18 months AT LEAST in advance of the need for the capital ?

Some supporters may get a warm feeling from buying 150 pounds of shares.

But, how many ?

50 ?

100 ?

DDFR will always want/need his 75.1%

It may sound harsh Newt-it may also be correct!

QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Sep 17 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]513864[/snapback]
Not everyone can afford to go to games let alone buy shares. The timing of the announcement was indeed bad times as the marketing slowly began to decline to its current state, was this a forced move or a desperate effort to offload the club..

Need to stay off this board..starting to sound like MJ ph34r.gif


NOBODY SOUNDS LIKE MORTONJAG EXCEPT MORTONJAG mad.gif
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 17 2008, 08:25 PM) [snapback]513865[/snapback]
I'm calling it now...13 pages before this stops!

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QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 17 2008, 08:29 PM) [snapback]513870[/snapback]
Well, puggsy, as you are the accountant, should we ask you to keep count of the pages ?

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Port ton described him as an adder.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 20:50:47
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 17 2008, 08:43 PM) [snapback]513893[/snapback]
I realise we were at home. All i said was that i wasnt sitting behind you on Saturday and don't sit at home games.

And all I have said is that you appear to be acquainted with me and claim to have sat behind me at matches, which I happen to know is incorrect! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 20:55:55
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Sep 17 2008, 08:48 PM) [snapback]513904[/snapback]
Suppose thats a good point you made MJ, would feel sorry for anyone who genuinely did laugh.gif

A common mistake my friend! laugh.gif

QUOTE(cornbeef @ Sep 17 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]513906[/snapback]
Nice one. and some have described you as a detractor. happy.gif

The crowds are not multiplying Cloth ears!

QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 17 2008, 08:51 PM) [snapback]513908[/snapback]
MJ, I said it was harsh.

At no time did I say it was incorrect.

Was there any commercial reason to announce the share issue 3 months ago ?

I cannot think of one.

NOPE! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 20:59:07
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 17 2008, 08:52 PM) [snapback]513909[/snapback]
At no point have I claimed or implied to be acquainted with you. I just know that at least one away game I have sat very close to you.

HA-the truth at last-did you enjoy the magnetism?
mortonjag 2008-09-17 22:22:11
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 17 2008, 09:07 PM) [snapback]513923[/snapback]
When I worked in France there was a woman there called Fanny b*****d.


She may have been divorced from Claude Bols.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 22:30:14
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 17 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]513926[/snapback]
Aye I have the original Mr E. Along with the Stone of Destiny, the book of Deer, the Lewis Chessmen, the Wallace letter of safe conduct ......etc angel.gif

Spurtle I just can't quite reconcile a man with such impeccable historical taste with a ravin' POUFFE humpin' rid hot paranoid nationalist nutter.

I believe you're making all this stuff up. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 22:39:26
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 17 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]513884[/snapback]
laugh.gif

I doudt it, but if you're more interested in posting on here when surrounded by lovely ladies showing off their bare scuddy boobies then you really need to have a word with yourself.

I multi task with sublime ease! laugh.gif

QUOTE(capitanus @ Sep 17 2008, 09:55 PM) [snapback]513943[/snapback]
Erm, i dont think the lyricist for that one will ever become the next Ray Davies. I mean, what has "Papists in Rome" got to do with Irish migrants in Scotland being told to 'go home'?

This isn't footballs problem, its a problem with Scotlands society as a whole. A sizeable section of our society are intolerant towards catholics, and football is merely the place it manifests itself. Even with allsorts of sanctions by FIFA, UEFA etc. it will still go on.
Agree.
I might have known that someone on here would lay the blame of all this on the existance of catholic schools. Surely intolerance and ignorance by the culprits are to blame?

Catholic schools exist and co-exist in many countries across the world, some rich and some poor, without no trouble at all. But in this one wee warped and backwards country are they resented in such a way and blamed for society's ills.

I certainly don't 'resent' Catholic schools any more than I resent Jewish schools, or 'Proddy' schools. I simply object to the indisputably unhealthy 'divisions' which exist in this wee warped part of our wee country, and I believe that segregating children on the strength of religion is mediaeval.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 06:35:46
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 17 2008, 08:57 PM) [snapback]513913[/snapback]
Last year I was offered a job at 20% less basic salary than I was on at the time but with a company where I could express myself, learn the business and move forward. Did I take the job? Of course I did.

I wouldn't go anywhere near any of the tossers who went to Gretna. A simple look at Companies House would have told you anything you need to know. Balance sheet is everything. If you're too stupid to understand that then hell mend you.

Back on topic. Stoke use the long throw in because they are s***e and are playing teams who are good.
We supposedly have a team of quality footballers; Jenkins, McGuffie, McManus have all been lauded on here so get the ball on the deck and play football.

Last year I was offered a fitted sheet at 20% less than the one that was on at the time but with material I'd have to press myself. Did I take it? Of course I didn't.

Vallance sheet is everything. If you're too stupid to understand that Peter I hope you singe your tankard hand on the iron.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 06:44:26
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 17 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]513918[/snapback]
Its not like I was keeping a big secret. It was funnier when someone shouted to one of my mates "its that mortonjag?" and pointed at someone who wasnt you but you were sitting right infront of us laugh.gif

I repeat that I happen to know that that is incorrect.

QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 17 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]513924[/snapback]
that's bloody hilarious.
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Ballboy, you should be on the stage.

Indeed Newt, the next one to leave town.

Only three posters have ever met Mortonjag, and each of those would chat to Mortonjag at matches.

This young gentleman may believe he knows Mortonjag-if so why not introduce himself next time. He might get a bloody nose from Beermonkey or someone else in the intelligentsia.

Maybe they think Mortonjag bites! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-18 06:51:04
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 17 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]513917[/snapback]
Well we both are quite wriggly smile.gif

I'd describe PT as lithe!

QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 17 2008, 10:00 PM) [snapback]513944[/snapback]
I trust he is not a puff adder ???

Are snakes not hermaphrodites or am I thinking of worms? All this talk of wriggling confuses me. Which leads me to ask the question: are backward worms POUFFES?
mortonjag 2008-09-18 06:57:21
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 16 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]513199[/snapback]
Does anyone know how much it is for student on Saturday, i looked on the plastic whistle webside but all i could find was stuff about downloading forms, there is no mention of arrangements for away fans.



QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 16 2008, 02:21 PM) [snapback]513210[/snapback]
I will just put my finger over the part time bit of my student card ph34r.gif



QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 17 2008, 08:46 PM) [snapback]513897[/snapback]
que mortonjag..........

Fing is rapidly building up a profile of you 'Speccy'.

26 year old, not very bright, claims to be student, possesses duff matric card-thinks Beermonkey is Mortonjag.

As soon as he's got you for sure you will receive an invitation to Mortonjag's cellar.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 07:00:57
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 17 2008, 10:43 PM) [snapback]513956[/snapback]
So you've never came back from Cappielow and said we played crap today or we were amazing?

Get a life and stop being pedantic.


'Chalk and cheese'? dry.gif
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 17 2008, 11:49 PM) [snapback]513982[/snapback]
Why does Ballboy seem to be the only person talking any sense around here lately? im the biggest w*nker out of all of us but give the guy a break. tongue.gif

You are NOT as tall as Pantaloons.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 07:09:16
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 18 2008, 05:00 AM) [snapback]514005[/snapback]
CODE
I wanted to figure out if it was safe to pump her mid-shudder.

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I took it more as another 'know it all' throwing his tuppence worth in to an already totally off point topic!

As promised I wrote to the St. Ambulance Ambulance Service and received a reply yesterday.

They have still to produce a full report of the incident but at this stage they appear to feel that there were several factors which influenced the behaviour of their crew, INCLUDING directions from the police, and actions taken already by the public.

I will update posters when I have more information.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 07:15:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 18 2008, 06:54 AM) [snapback]514012[/snapback]
naw - they are probably pouffe adders ?

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You're trying to confuse me again-Puggsy is the POUFFE Adder remember!
mortonjag 2008-09-18 07:20:47
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 17 2008, 10:56 PM) [snapback]513961[/snapback]
Where do you work? huh.gif

He's the latest POUFFE adder recruit to the financial snake pit that is Glasgow City Cooncil, I believe.

The way Cooncil things are, he'll be oot the door in a few months unless he can fiddle the figures for himself! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-18 07:27:24 The other half claims there's an Annette Fish at her work.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 07:29:58
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 17 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]513617[/snapback]
Call me pedantic but I'd hardly call dictatorships such as China and North Korea 'left'.

I'd rather use your proper name, Peter.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 07:35:35
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 17 2008, 10:55 PM) [snapback]513958[/snapback]
Ah canny get ma heid roon that wan MJ blink.gif

Get yer heid roon this then:


rel·i·quar·y
–noun,
a repository or receptacle for relics.

Directors' box?
mortonjag 2008-09-18 07:40:02
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 17 2008, 09:07 PM) [snapback]513921[/snapback]
With too few US dollars.



QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 17 2008, 09:32 PM) [snapback]513931[/snapback]
Its okay then - problem solved I guess.
I'm off to print my own too... blush.gif

Word of advice SPARROT-take all your pocket money out of the bank NOW and buy Golden Casket shares.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 07:44:46
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 18 2008, 12:56 AM) [snapback]513996[/snapback]
I'd f***ing love my Doc to ask me to bring a Monday morning s***e to the surgery! laugh.gif

He actually said 'a sample of anal waste'-a rather bizarre term I thought at the time. Visions of ineffectual homosexual partners were running through my head, though I wouldn't have dreamed of mentioning that.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 07:55:01
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 17 2008, 10:58 PM) [snapback]513962[/snapback]
Sorry sawbones, kids are not segregated on the basis of religion.

Kids are sent to different schools on the basis of parental choice.

Tomorrow I shall teach taigs, muslims, Hindus, agnostics and atheists, and protestants. ohmy.gif

Their folks wanted them to go to a school with a Catholic ethos. smile.gif

I am very well aware of the unusual cultural and primarily money driven mix that is the St Andrews' catchment area, Dr Taig Bam..

I'm talking about real schools where the majority of kids are sent on the basis of parental 'choice' indeed, but a choice influenced heavily by their religious persuasion or leaning.

We've had comprehensive education since the seventies-mixed ability classes even-and still kids are allowed to believe from the age of four or five years that they are DIFFERENT.

It's wrong, it's divisive, and it is largely tolerated and indeed encouraged to pander to strong RELIGIOUS lobbying.


Anyway-you knew all that, you old pestle pounder.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 08:33:31
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 18 2008, 05:16 AM) [snapback]514006[/snapback]

There was some Elvin guy played a trial for the Ton a year or so back. If I re-call correctly he scored twice against Dundee but was sent packing. I think his board and lodgings were proving too expensive for the Club.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 09:17:07
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 17 2008, 09:28 PM) [snapback]513930[/snapback]
These are the 27 suggestions put forward by Liam Byrne, the immigration minister, to bring together the different communities living in England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland for britishness Day.

These suggestions are contained in his pamphlet, titled 'A More United britain' and it's comedy gold ........

1 As a national event, celebrated in local areas

2 With a good cross-section of society on the organising committee; lots of small community events; have a particular theme - different theme each year, set by organising committee

3 By using TV to inform about British history; a speech by the Queen; TV link-ups around country blink.gif

4 In the form of a remembrance day celebrating the bravery of veterans.

5 By encouraging young people to visit or help older people; celebrate voluntary work.

6 Through school involvement – teach history, choirs singing.

7 Through daytime activities to involve whole community, and evening for partying.

8 By holding street parties and neighbourhood get-together; would work as a street party – exchanging food and culture mellow.gif

9 As a carnival similar to the Notting Hill Carnival; big procession similar to St Paul's Carnival; fireworks

10 Through music – British or world music; concerts like Live Aid; British music; play local music; local dress

11 Through dance – British dancers; Morris dancing; folk dancing laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

12 Through food – British and other cultures; regional food; different cultures' foods

13 Through drinking rolleyes.gif

14 Through art; involve theatre; free film viewings on history of Britain

15 By having a sports theme – all nationalities can take part; football

16 By celebrating different cultural dress

17 By holding community discussions; meetings in town halls

18 By promoting posters of iconic figures, eg fallen heroes, Winston Churchill laugh.gif

19 By holding a ceremony to remember the good things over the past year

20 By appreciating the country; weather; enjoyment

21 Cheaply so people get involved

22 By holding free events around the city

23 By incorporating countries that used to be part of the Empire dry.gif

24 By making it about integration

25 By using publicity to ensure people get involved – like Children in Need

26 By emphasising the theme of British life, immigration, remembrance; cost should be met locally as shows that putting into the local community helps to get something good back

27 In an understated but firm way, without fuss; show good and bad aspects of living in Britain (and how bad aspects are being addressed) – give honest picture.

Spurtle in full heilan' dress.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 09:24:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 18 2008, 07:44 AM) [snapback]514023[/snapback]
Will Golden Casket shares skyrocket then, like the price of gold did yesterday ???

If they do, will Sparrot make Millions ?

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The answer to both questions is 'Yes'! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 18 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]514039[/snapback]
I think Alex Salmond is spot on when he says this situation is down to spivs and speculators. As an economist, he obviously understands the situation better than most. It's got nothing to do with Mathewson etc - it's been caused by the (immoral IMHO) practice of short selling - basically speculators selling shares they don't own - and that practice should be made illegal immediately. Apparently the companies that hold shares owned by pension funds and even by privaye investors (in nominee accounts) lend them out to these spivs to allow them to gamble with them, and they do so to the extent that they can manipulate the share prices. Should be illegal - it's the same as someone borrowing your car while you're asleep and using it as a taxi, then returning it at 6am with the fuel tank empty.

I was absolutely gobsmacked by Gordon Brown's indecently quick announcement that they would waive normal monopoly rules to allow what was still a nominally Scottish company to be taken over and destroyed, with the inevitable consequences of thousands of jobs being lost in Scotland (probably a few in England & Wales too but small numbers by comparison), and the HQ of the merged compnay being moved to London. Would it be overly cynical of me to suggest that Brown sees this as a good thing - damaging the Scottish economy and then he will tell us we're too small and poor to be independent? He seems to have been very keen for this takeover to occur - and since when did multi billion pound takeovers get arranged in the space of about 20 minutes? Maybe I'm being too cynical but I wonder if Brown's cronies had any hand in the short selling attack that forced the price down so far? It will be interesting to see if the same happens to RBS next.

Incidentally, why does a drop in the share price mean that a compnay has to be taken over? Surely its assets and its business are unchanged? And why was the UK government so quick to bail out Northern Rock but stood by watching BoS be destroyed?

This business raises a lot of questions. I think there is more to this than meets the eye.

mortonjag 2008-09-18 09:25:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 18 2008, 07:44 AM) [snapback]514023[/snapback]
Will Golden Casket shares skyrocket then, like the price of gold did yesterday ???

If they do, will Sparrot make Millions ?

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The answer to both questions is 'Yes'! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 18 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]514039[/snapback]
I think Alex Salmond is spot on when he says this situation is down to spivs and speculators. As an economist, he obviously understands the situation better than most. It's got nothing to do with Mathewson etc - it's been caused by the (immoral IMHO) practice of short selling - basically speculators selling shares they don't own - and that practice should be made illegal immediately. Apparently the companies that hold shares owned by pension funds and even by privaye investors (in nominee accounts) lend them out to these spivs to allow them to gamble with them, and they do so to the extent that they can manipulate the share prices. Should be illegal - it's the same as someone borrowing your car while you're asleep and using it as a taxi, then returning it at 6am with the fuel tank empty.

I was absolutely gobsmacked by Gordon Brown's indecently quick announcement that they would waive normal monopoly rules to allow what was still a nominally Scottish company to be taken over and destroyed, with the inevitable consequences of thousands of jobs being lost in Scotland (probably a few in England & Wales too but small numbers by comparison), and the HQ of the merged compnay being moved to London. Would it be overly cynical of me to suggest that Brown sees this as a good thing - damaging the Scottish economy and then he will tell us we're too small and poor to be independent? He seems to have been very keen for this takeover to occur - and since when did multi billion pound takeovers get arranged in the space of about 20 minutes? Maybe I'm being too cynical but I wonder if Brown's cronies had any hand in the short selling attack that forced the price down so far? It will be interesting to see if the same happens to RBS next.

Incidentally, why does a drop in the share price mean that a compnay has to be taken over? Surely its assets and its business are unchanged? And why was the UK government so quick to bail out Northern Rock but stood by watching BoS be destroyed?

This business raises a lot of questions. I think there is more to this than meets the eye.

I strongly agree with the highlighted comments.

Greed, greed, and more greed!
mortonjag 2008-09-18 09:28:29
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 18 2008, 08:47 AM) [snapback]514028[/snapback]
My full is Pedantic Weatherson, I'm called Peter for short Doogie.

Your peed antics are well recorded Peter.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 09:31:13
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Sep 18 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]514033[/snapback]
let me educate you..... the question in this thread/poll is to see who else has been ignored by the club when asking pertinent questions about the clubs ambitions/plans/future.. now as fans of Morton this is entirely reasonable... I did not ask the clubs opinion on ardgowan football developement.. I asked the club if a setup similar to what Ardgowan have is something they would be interested in doing / getting involved in... I did not ask Gillian opinion of anything.. I emailed the club through the official route given on the official website.. I would expect my email to be directed to the correct person to answer it..... now is all that ok with you, or do you want to change everything round to support your own completely head in the sand arguments and defending of the club on situations that are indefensible !

I notice that almost four in every ten have been ignored.

That's pretty ignorant IMO.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 09:33:34
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 18 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]514034[/snapback]
That was actually quite funny. Are you feeling ok?

I'm feeling a bit down actually-very fussy about my downies I am.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 09:35:33
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Sep 18 2008, 09:07 AM) [snapback]514038[/snapback]
A puff adder is someone who farts in the bath and counts the bubbles.

Just trying to bring a bit of gravitas to this thread!

Ah-Bisto.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 09:38:41
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 18 2008, 09:25 AM) [snapback]514053[/snapback]
Puggsy works fur the cooncil??? Where's the garlic....

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I'll leave it to him to confirm but he claims to be using my bloody money! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-18 09:42:53
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 18 2008, 09:36 AM) [snapback]514064[/snapback]
As Maverick said to Goose..." crashed and burned.."

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Nobody's got money now MrsT! Haven't you heard of the credit crunch? It's a level field now....which is where I want you!

Like this?
mortonjag 2008-09-18 09:48:44
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Sep 18 2008, 09:39 AM) [snapback]514066[/snapback]
obviously there is a lot of people who have commented on this thread without knowing the history surrounding both celtic..or for tyhat fact scotland, celtic were FOUNDED by an Irish priest for the irish imigrants in glasgow.. thats their history, and they do and should be allowed to remember this.. Rangers were founded by protestant mind f***ers who took aversion to the fact that catholics had something they didnt.. hence rangers have NO history, only bigotry and hatred, and alleigance to the 'crown' of engerland... Catholic persecutuion was and still is a fact in this country, as long as catholics DO NOT have the same rights as protestants, then this will not go away.. anyone whop thinks that the 'we are the peepul' guys do not persecute catholics are burying their head in the sand... we CANT have a catholic prime minister.... we CANT have a catholic monarch... and before anyone starts banging away.. we used to have a catholic monarch , so why not allowed now ??? the bigotry and sectarianism goes all the way to the very top, and that is why it will never be stamped out... why is this govt allowed to be sectarian yet the guy in the street isnt ???

get scotland independant.. then we can sort out the other problems without the hinderance of the most sectarian biggoted country on earth..engerland .

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Be all that as it may, I believe that the general opinion of Morton supporters is that 'they are both at it, and it's wrong'.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 11:04:40
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 18 2008, 10:29 AM) [snapback]514101[/snapback]
Gives a meal man appeal ???

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Browns
It
Seasons and
Thickens in
One
mortonjag 2008-09-18 11:36:51
QUOTE(cmdc @ Sep 18 2008, 10:47 AM) [snapback]514119[/snapback]
What makes you say that? I tend to find him a pretty balanced reporter.

If wee Graham (Speirs) was the son of a Catholic Priest (I speak of course hypothetically) and not of a Baptist Minister, his articles on one half of the OF would be laughed to scorn.

As Barbie says he's just a hypocritical wee weasel who is jumping on this bandwagon to get nice juicy articles which will be perceived as 'balanced'.

As I've now said several times, they are both at it, and as Morton supporters we should be condemning them universally instead of trying to score cheap points in sad exposure of our own religious peccadillos.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 11:41:45
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 18 2008, 11:30 AM) [snapback]514147[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif Very lifelike.

Nice tits!
mortonjag 2008-09-18 11:47:51
QUOTE(Laura_w @ Sep 18 2008, 11:06 AM) [snapback]514129[/snapback]
my student card doesnt have a valid to date jst says session 07/08 and issued on 27/09/07 my uni doesnt go back til nxt week so will jst say i havent got my new card yet if they ask.

It's fair then to assume it's valid till 27th September as they are renewed annually.

Just smile and look sweet-you'll be fine!
mortonjag 2008-09-18 11:51:51
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 18 2008, 11:48 AM) [snapback]514159[/snapback]
Can I interest you in a wee proposition? I have $30m stuck in a bank account in Matabeleland. I can't account for this money officially but with the help of my government friend in Harare we can get it out of the country! Unfortunately my friend, this requires some greasing of palms and this is where you come in! If you invest £10,000 of your English pounds we can release the money! I will share with you on a 90/10 basis my friend. Keep this to yourself. Let me know asap ph34r.gif

signed


Roland Bacon.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 11:57:47
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Sep 18 2008, 11:40 AM) [snapback]514155[/snapback]
heres a wee example for you... when I was about 11 a group of us used hang about belville st area, one night we were hanging around outside a bb place on bawhirley road (spelling).. anyway we went in and asked to join..3 of my mates were allowed to join and me and 2 others were told by the guy in charge that we would be better going to the cubs/scouts.. this was after he had asked us what schools we went to.

I know how you feel. Last night I turned up at the ladies keep fit class-fully equipped in purple leotard and soft trainers.

After asking me what school I went to the bouncers took one look at each other, burst out laughing, and said I'd be better off going to A & E to see a psychiatrist.

People can be SO cruel.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 12:17:58
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 18 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]514166[/snapback]
Yeah, coz that's the same.

The BB is supposedly inter-denominational, for one thing. For another, just because someone goes to an RC school does not mean they are RC (just as someone who goes to a so-called non-demo school needn't be CoS or another kind of protestant.)

If the BB was an expressly protestant organisation that would be one thing, but it isn't. It is discrimination by the back door.

Discrimination will always exist in one form or another. I'm merely trying to get folk to focus on this thread and forget their individual experiences which, de facto, are not necessarily representative of the bigger picture.

By all means start another thread entitled 'Does discrimination against Catholics still exist?'.

It will probably run for twenty pages and achieve very little if anything at all.

What seems to be happening here is that some people are trying to justify, or at least ameliorate the behaviour of one set of 'religious' bigots relative to another.

Irrespective of genuine personal grievances, that in my mind, is still condoning bigotry.


mortonjag 2008-09-18 12:23:44 F*CK CALF LICK SKOOLS
mortonjag 2008-09-18 12:40:33
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 18 2008, 12:25 PM) [snapback]514175[/snapback]
Maybe cowshed_warrior is a bigot, I don't know him. But I don't think his raising an example of discrimination by the back door is to be shouted down.

I don't think that what you perceive as 'discrimination by the back door' - and you may be correct - has any relevance to an impartial debate on the behaviour of OF bigots.

The fact that some Morton supporters refuse to keep it impartial (or are simply incapable thereof) is, in terms solely of this thread, lamentable, and comes over to me as, deliberate or not, condoning bigotry by attempting to justify the behaviour of one element relative to the other.

As to your comment about 'shouting down', it seems to me that there is indeed much 'shouting'!
mortonjag 2008-09-18 12:44:17
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 18 2008, 12:41 PM) [snapback]514184[/snapback]
laugh.gif poor guys gonna get some stick

How's yer Holy Willie Mick?
mortonjag 2008-09-18 12:47:07
QUOTE(TCox @ Sep 18 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]514185[/snapback]
Ah so that's what positive discrimination means.

Nice to see 7 pages of bigot brother bollocks on a Morton website.

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mortonjag 2008-09-18 14:27:44
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Sep 18 2008, 02:07 PM) [snapback]514228[/snapback]
Bugger me silly with a teaspoon!
What a load of pompous pish. Get off yer high horse Doctor! My line of work is slated by the general public constantly, but your up the khyber with a claes pole if you think i would come on a website and preach about it.
If this was posted on www.lancetunofficial.org I could see the point of you going off on one. as it is, this is a fitba fans web page, and fitba fans being fitba fans we are ignorant of everything bar bovril and lukewarm pies, so no need to be so parochial and try to obtain a moral high ground.

Love ya!

Paddy

I'd prefer to use a telegraph pole, or maybe a twenty megaton torpedo would suit better! smile.gif


Rudimentary first aid has f*ck all to do with the medical profession. Why on earth would a man of my impeccable standards and vast experience give a toss about two or three kids volunteering to tote a stretcher about a scabby wee football stadium on a grey September afternoon?

Moral high ground? Aye perhaps I don't like 'lynch mobs'.

I don't like them when they have a go at the forces either!

Dammit-I've forgotten already-did you make a valid point, or is your arse just desperate to spoon? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-18 14:32:48
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 18 2008, 02:08 PM) [snapback]514230[/snapback]
As below
I'll try my best smile.gif
...no...your money is paying me. I aint been paid yet but believe me I will be using it this weekend on things doctors probably believe shouldn't be done to excess smile.gif

Church offering?
mortonjag 2008-09-18 14:38:38
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 18 2008, 02:07 PM) [snapback]514229[/snapback]
.........there are a few choice (and not so choice) auld relics just BEHIND the directors' box............

You'd know of course Russells' Muscles Mabawsa Ronnie Boy.

I hope your paymaster's arse doesn't smell as offensive as that post, or they might be 'outed'.

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mortonjag 2008-09-18 14:50:56
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 18 2008, 02:42 PM) [snapback]514242[/snapback]
Heh heh - I haven't read all of this thread as it wasn't of great interest to me, not having seen the incident. However, it's good to see the old boy getting all aereated about something instead of just stirring the kack as usual!

One thing I'd like you to do, Doc. Look at the above excerpts from your "epic" post. Remember the righteous indignation you felt while you typed it. Think of the contempt you felt for the nosy interfering vultures putting their tuppenceworth in.

And then try to put yourself in the shoes of Douglas or Crawford Rae and imagine THEIR feelings of annoyance when some wee retired GP tries to tell them how to run their businesses.......... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Each to his own, auld yin. You can deal with your discipline and are perfectly entitled to criticise those who don't have your level of expertise. But bear in mind the way you're viewed when YOU become the "smart ass wannabe" yourself!! tongue.gif

You are absolutely right Ronnie Boy.

Douglas and Crawford are to be highly commended for the superlative success they are achieving in their 'discipline'.

Tell them that when you pick up your next massive wage poke. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-18 14:52:03
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Sep 18 2008, 02:47 PM) [snapback]514245[/snapback]
Cannae remember, think just the spoon...

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mortonjag 2008-09-18 15:02:09
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 18 2008, 02:56 PM) [snapback]514252[/snapback]
You've asked before, and I've told you, that my only connection to Morton is as a season-ticket-holding supporter and I have never had any association to Golden Casket or any other company associated with the Raes.

To quote the late, great(?) Jimmy Sanderson - are you accusing me of mendacity, doc??

Ronnie Boy, your credibility probably ranks up there with the success of your paymasters!

2,200 at Cappielow on Saturday-if it gets much worse the old sugar boiler will be looking for redundancies! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-18 15:21:37
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 18 2008, 03:08 PM) [snapback]514260[/snapback]
if he's ever looking for rePUGnancies then he need only look over his shoulder from the Directors' Box. biggrin.gif

I can well understand your pathological need to be so near his arse Ronnie boy.

QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 18 2008, 03:09 PM) [snapback]514261[/snapback]
My goodness there are some very long winded answers on this thread.

Man collapses
Unsure if epileptic or heart related.
Check consciousness
Check Breathing
Clear airways if required
Move to recovery position
Call Ambulance.
Get out the way when professionals arrive.


I seen this as help was already at hand, and yes, some of the St.Andrews seemed unsure but members of the public had already carried out basic first aid, made a simple diagnosis and called an Ambulance. Apart from getting him on a stretcher there was not a lot left for them to do. I seen no reason to get involved as too many cooks defintely spoil the broth, the members of public had done all that could have been done. (and a big well done to them too)

A similar situation happened last year in a local drinking establishment. I carried out the basic first aid I was taught as a 17 year old and with the help of a Nurse drinking friend made the man comfortable. Ambulance arrived and advised we had acted correctly. That’s good enough for me.
Wasn’t easy though as the drinkers in the pub were stepping over the guy to get to the bar, but hey that’s life in Inverclyde, cheap.

I have no idea to this day what was wrong and made no assumption at the time.



Regarding the highlighted part, the only additional action I'd recommend it to shoot all the ghouls who come within ten paces!


'Dae sumpin, effin dae sumpin-he's no breathin'-he looks a goner-are ye no gonnae dae sumpin'.

ARSEHOLES-some of whom appear to have been represented among this thread's lynch mob.

If the cap fits wear it. ph34r.gif

mortonjag 2008-09-18 15:26:02 You REALLY don't like it up your paymasters, do you Ronnie boy? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-18 15:33:29
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 18 2008, 03:02 PM) [snapback]514255[/snapback]
heh heh, you're floundering, auld yin. Those posters have nothing to do with me, and as for "paymasters" I have nothing to do with Morton except as a supporter - I presume that's what your rather opaque second line was implying? Actually, ignore the question mark there as I'm honestly not that interested in what you think.

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Do me a favour Ronnie boy, and read what you just said. If there was no Jag, there would be no Ronnie boy.

That's actually quite sad, come to think of it! sad.gif

I've been a bit shy of asking, but do you print out all your posts on the forum and proudly present them to the old fud each time it's your turn for ritual arse kissing?

He must be SO proud of his court jester.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 16:43:44
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 18 2008, 03:55 PM) [snapback]514293[/snapback]
You been sniffing the ether again sawbones? laugh.gif
St Andrew's is in Carntyne, one of the more deprived areas of Glasgow, and I don't teach there. Interestingly it has a large number of non catholic pupils too, just like my school. I guess that you would call it a "Real" school.

Nope Dr Bam-I just have a poor memory-anyway Andrew is a far nicer name than Ninian!


It would be nice to know the actual figures and how you define 'non-catholic', but that's a total digression from the thread.

Unfortunately I can't get it on line, but Bill Leckie's article in today's Scottish Scum, pretty well summarises what most of us seem to have been thinking.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 16:50:43
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Sep 18 2008, 03:38 PM) [snapback]514280[/snapback]
I give up what is it? A handbag

It's Spurtle's hoose. The door's roon the back.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 16:54:20
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 18 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]514263[/snapback]
How much do GC shares trade for? As a private limited company I doubt I'd be able to buy any anyway - if they were a plc a certain Mr Newall would have pawned the hoose to to buy GC outright years ago. laugh.gif

Really-and who exactly is this person of whom you type my child?
mortonjag 2008-09-18 17:00:18
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 18 2008, 12:54 PM) [snapback]514193[/snapback]
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Your opinion on my looks matter not a jot. If you were a bird I might take offence, but then again if you were a bird I would still hope you thought I was ugly because you my dear old friend would make the ugly sisters look positively ravishing. You would turn to Islam just to get to wear a Bhurka. ph34r.gif

GIRUY wub.gif .

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mortonjag 2008-09-18 17:04:59
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 18 2008, 04:56 PM) [snapback]514336[/snapback]
heh heh - you're so fond of referring to yourself in the third person I could ask EXACTLY the same question of you....... laugh.gif laugh.gif

Aye, you love yourself - or, at least, you would if you could get around to it!!

Of course I do Ronnie boy, and so does everybody else who knows Mortonjag-ESPECIALLY my lovely young partner whose baws probably make yours look like peanuts-talking of which, how much does that old fud pay his minions?
mortonjag 2008-09-18 17:08:12 We seem to have forgotten that the thread's about one set of bigots clyping on another!!!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-18 17:11:03
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 18 2008, 05:08 PM) [snapback]514353[/snapback]
Aperitif of Pineau de Charentes in hand, ooo the smell eminating from my arse is attracting a crowd of dugs. tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-18 17:25:52 quote RON NUMBER

Or if the cap fits, USE it - advice I wish your mother had heeded nine months before you were born.......... dry.gif


And back to where you came in Ronnie boy.

A poster who adopted an identity with the sole purpose of attacking one other-already banned at least once and warned by another Mod that you are on a 'shoogly peg'.

You clearly DO have an agenda

I do not believe a word of your nonsense about having no connection with the Raes or GMFC.

The personal stuff cuts no ice with me. It's the common denominator for those who cannot match my wit. It is a definition of your ultimate incompetence, and it's in breach of the forum rules.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 17:48:16
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 18 2008, 05:44 PM) [snapback]514372[/snapback]
migawd, look at this - it's a trainee mortonbrag.

How very (un)original.................... dry.gif

No-it's another poster's perception of the fact that you are up the Rae's arses big style.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 17:56:21
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 18 2008, 05:45 PM) [snapback]514374[/snapback]
Seperate Catholic schools (paid for by the state or otherwise) exist in various countries across the world, including the USA and England.
Seems perfectly able to co-exist everywhere else without problems except for West Central Scotland.

I'm sure that's true.

I still believe that the way ahead worldwide is to remove religious control from education.

The very fact that this thread has run to so many pages is a demonstration of the undercurrent of intolerance which exists even in apparently bona fide Morton Supporters.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 18:00:15
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 18 2008, 05:54 PM) [snapback]514378[/snapback]
Hope he chokes on enjoys it

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I think he may re-appear in a few hours time 'full of the joys'! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-18 18:12:32 Up and down like a wh*re's knickers this season. We gubbed Hibs and were double gubbed in return by Airdrie.

We did well to beat Queens on their own patch and struggled to a draw on our own, and we're miserably propping up the league with our small squad of quality players.

Partick will be no walkover-a good example of how useful an experienced Manager can be-but we don't do experienced managers.

We've GOT to win this one. If we lose, the pressure on DI will become almost unbearable I'd guess, and a subsequent defeat by Caley could finally see folk baying for Mr Rae's head.

If the players want it enough, I firmly believe we can win this one. I'm hoping we've turned the corner at last.

Prediction-another DOUR encounter with Morton getting the only goal.(Jenkins blockbuster)!


C'MON YE TON
mortonjag 2008-09-18 18:27:41
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 18 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]514393[/snapback]
Now I've warned you about the older and rougher boys like Mortonjag before. If you hang around with him you'll end up in the Newland's Toi.

PHUK TEECHURZ ANOL
mortonjag 2008-09-18 18:45:33
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 18 2008, 06:08 PM) [snapback]514386[/snapback]
you are looking much younger on your avatar this afternoon.

Did you have a shave ?

Don't be ridiculous Mr Newton: that's a picture of myself at the recent fancy dress ball organised by the local Conservative Club where I hadn't realised the mask was still on when I posed for the Telegraph photographer, who also writes very nice articles about me when I tell him to, and is one of my oldest and dearest friends, and a Morton man through and through who just happened to mention to me yesterday that he thought my team selection last Saturday was spot on and that it was just a shame that the Referee was so biased and that the woodwork had prevented Iain from honouring us with one of his excellent goals, talking of which I confidently predict a sparkling encounter with our old rivals Partick Thistle this weekend where I'm expecting an superb turnout of our faithful fans who still have the outstanding victory there last April firmly imprinted in their minds and who will undoubtedly be expecting a repeat performance, something which I for one look forward to with increasing relish as the days pass by, and nothing would surprise me less than a brace of goals from our hitherto off form Peter with whom I've been having some encouraging words lately and who assures me that he is once again up for it.
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QUOTE(mortonjag @ Sep 18 2008, 05:25 PM) *
quote RON NUMBER

Or if the cap fits, USE it - advice I wish your mother had heeded nine months before you were born.......... dry.gif
And back to where you came in Ronnie boy.

A poster who adopted an identity with the sole purpose of attacking one other-already banned at least once and warned by another Mod that you are on a 'shoogly peg'. You're wrong again, matey. Firstly, no Mod has ever been in contact with me. And secondly, don't flatter yourself - this ID was NOT created in order to attack you, or anyone ELSE for that matter. I've posted several times today and far from all of them have been against, or critical of, you. If it seems that way to you, that's tough, but the only reason I make points against you is that I disagree with you on so many points and I find your general conduct on here to be in the main obnoxious. It's my right to criticise that, just as it's your right to carry on being obnoxious - it's a tenet known as "freedom of speech".

You clearly DO have an agenda Nope, see above, auld yin - I have OPINIONS, just as you do. And I have every right to disagree with YOUR opinions, whether you like that or not. As for "attacking" you - pots and kettles again! YOU attack virtually everyone who disagrees with you, and often on a personal, vindictive and foulmouthed basis - only a couple of hours ago you made offensive remarks about me and Douglas Rae's posterior. When are the mods gonna ban YOU? Is it all right for YOU to spew your filth at MANY posters rather than for ME to disagree in print with just a few?? I'd really like an answer from the mods about this!!

I do not believe a word of your nonsense about having no connection with the Raes or GMFC. Guess what - I DON'T CARE.

The personal stuff cuts no ice with me. It's the common denominator for those who cannot match my wit. Err, "wit"? WHAT wit?? Your paranoia is only matched by your self-delusion, auld yin! laugh.gif It is a definition of your ultimate incompetence, Whatever....... and it's in breach of the forum rules. Just like much of your output in here - and it's high time they did something about it! Mods, over to you.......




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"If you can't say nuthin' nice, don't say nuthin' at all......." - Thumper

They don't just hate you when you tell the truth - they just can't be arsed with you, EVER..............



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mortonjag 2008-09-18 18:57:30
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 18 2008, 06:28 PM) [snapback]514400[/snapback]
Where is FlightTon rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-18 19:08:20
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Sep 18 2008, 06:48 PM) [snapback]514406[/snapback]
ronnie... who the f*** are you to have a go at me ? firstly 37% of people polled are still waiting on a reply, now in my language thats 4 out of 10 people .. thats how i worked it out.. get someone to count it for you !...as for your auntie uncle , fag packet, i think the fact you couldnt work out that 37% rounded up is 4 out of 10 says it all, leave the numbers to grown up's son... lastly what makes you think I wasnt / arent balanced or open minded in my dealings with the club ?? have you been readings my emails to them ???? I would suggest your lack of basic maths and inability to understand the meaning of this thread/poll would make you the ideal employee of the club ! or are you higher up in the institution !

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QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 18 2008, 06:54 PM) [snapback]514407[/snapback]
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Gidday cowshed_warrior,

Do you find it strange that:

No employee of Morton FC posts here openly ?

Anyone "accused" of being an employee of Morton FC takes it as an insult ?

Just asking, mate.


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QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 18 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]514411[/snapback]
Indefenceable? you created a poll asking if people had gotten replies from the club and if they thought there was a problem with it, the majority of people have said they've gotten swift replies when emailing the club so either the club have a personal vendetta against you, your head is in the sand or you just ask them stupid questions.

I'd say you are at least two out of the three.

Rather than me trying to defend the club on situations that are indefencable, it is more like you are trying to create a problem about the club that isn't there.

Don't be a silly Billy darling, the club is already spoilt for choice with problems entirely of its own making.

Failing to respond to even one e-mail from a genuine fan IS INDEFENSIBLE.

Only a clown would attempt to justify a 60/40 ratio. If the poll is even REMOTELY near the truth it demonstrates a dismissive disregard for the paying customer of suicidal proportions.

The evidence of that slow self poisoning is amply demonstrated by progressively falling attendances at Cappielow to levels already well below those achieved in the third division.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 19:14:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 18 2008, 07:09 PM) [snapback]514419[/snapback]
If that is even close to being correct, cowshed warrior, then Sugar Rae certainly has the yes wo(men) that mortonjag claims he has at Cappielow.

I understand that employment in Inverclyde is somewhat limited.

However, this is 2008 ... A.D.

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All employees of the sweetie factory and the club must sign the official sucrets act.



mortonjag 2008-09-18 19:21:45
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 18 2008, 07:05 PM) [snapback]514415[/snapback]
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Sep 18 2008, 03:21 PM)
I can well understand your pathological need to be so near his arse Ronnie boy. At every home game YOU'RE much nearer to his arse then I've EVER been.

ARSEHOLES-some of whom appear to have been represented among this thread's lynch mob.

If the cap fits wear it. Or if the cap fits, USE it - advice I wish your mother had heeded nine months before you were born..........
Aw - that's not very nice, Ron Number.

Could you and mortonjag, in the interests of the Ton, have wee hug on the centre spot at Cappielow, before the Dunfermline match ?
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Mortonjag is extremely shy, but is happy to call a truce with Ronnie boy, and promises NEVER EVER AGAIN to say anything nasty to or about him unless he is abusive to Mortonjag first.

Just as it's always been! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-18 19:28:13
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 18 2008, 07:22 PM) [snapback]514433[/snapback]
You're right, crowds are going down because the club won't answer emails. Forget bring a friend dougie, just work out how to use a computer.

It would be interesting to see how many of the people who don't get replies ask questions that are easily answered by the person/people who recieve the emails. We're not a huge company, some of the questions probably only Dougie knows, and people expect Gillian or someone to phone him while he's in a meeting trying to run his multi million pound company and ask him things.

Frankly if i was the owner of a football club i'd have far more important things to do than answer completely unimportant questions.

You must almost have choked with laughter when you posted that sweetie! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-18 19:42:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 18 2008, 07:13 PM) [snapback]514425[/snapback]
mortonjag, I am now 110% convinced that that you are Sugar Rae's ghost writer for "Welcome to Cappielow" etc.

When will you have finished his biography please ?

Mr Newton, I have to hurry off for an important engagement with a very close, and very dear old friend who just happens to be an insolvency practitioner, but I'm absolutely certain without the remotest shadow of doubt that any further questions you have will be answered immediately by my excellent staff who man our call centre day and night throughout the year, come hell or high water, boom or recession, war or peace, and who will also graciously respond by return of first class post to any of those new fangled e male things, which I freely confess totally baffle me beyond belief though my wife has become a dab hand at the keyboard and is indeed currently preparing some home made Christmas Cards for our grandchildren.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 19:47:34
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 18 2008, 06:26 PM) [snapback]514398[/snapback]
Ninian wis Scottish.

Awmagod Doc, finding yourself in agreement with the Sun, you'll be agreeing with the Mail and Express next. laugh.gif

Help ma bob I found the text online and I agree with him. smile.gif
As stated above, Catholic schools have lots of non Catholic kids in them.
Whereas I would go for the Swedish model which removes much of state control.

Ninian was also the Rector of Pishley Grammar Dr Bam.

Andrew is a nice Scottish name.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 19:53:30
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 18 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]514422[/snapback]
Now Now that's not how you spell anal.

PHUK GUDE SPELLURZ TWO
mortonjag 2008-09-18 20:46:32
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Sep 18 2008, 07:21 PM) [snapback]514430[/snapback]
My sister went to school with a boy called Alexander Dick, who was known as Sandy. But I think that this one takes the prize for best use of name. I give you:

http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiqKRgLIW6Y/R87kpc...anny-Batter.jpg

Did the said lady give birth to Rosie Cox?
mortonjag 2008-09-18 20:55:17
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 18 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]514457[/snapback]
For a good jewish boy. rolleyes.gif

And we do have to share him with the Greeks and Russians.

As we have a Sassenach contender!


The traditional story is that he was born in Brythonic Cumbria but travelled to Rome as a young man to study Christianity. There he was made a bishop and given the task of converting the Picts by the Pope, St Siricius.

Tradition (first mentioned by Bede) states that around 397 he set up his base at Whithorn in south-west Scotland, building a stone church there, known as the Candida Casa which means the White House. From there he began work among the Northern Brythons of the surrounding area. Later he undertook a journey northwards along the east coast in order to spread!


I'm sure that's just folk lore and Spurtle will have the true answer on tightly scrunched up toilet paper in one of the deepest corners of his reliquary.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 21:05:34
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 18 2008, 08:58 PM) [snapback]514474[/snapback]
Cumbria of course encompassing south-west Scotland at the time.

Of course! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-19 06:55:47
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 18 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]514469[/snapback]
Yet another person who doesn't understand the general wit and thought processes of our resident doc.

Actually 'No' Weegie - and that's the sad thing. There is a residual hard core of 'insiders' and others not employed by Mr Rae but with a financial connection to Morton who are very bitter because they TOTALLY understand Mortonjag.

Apart from a couple of genuine posters who genuinely have psychological problems with their perception of Mortonjag, everything else is 'cool' those days.

Ron Number has an agenda. He is undoubtedly using an alias. The most likely close association he has is with the club or the Trust and he claims it's not the former.

Perhaps he's (currently posted missing) Spot Ton's master! unsure.gif



QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 18 2008, 08:55 PM) [snapback]514471[/snapback]
Gidday Bryan,

I'm a wee bit lost, mate.

We all know who MJ is, I believe.

Are you saying that Ron Member is hiding behind an alias ?

Why ?

Wee Bryan knew!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-19 07:04:18
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 18 2008, 09:17 PM) [snapback]514487[/snapback]
Oh Aye the gravy , for a minute I thought you were describing the state of SpotTon's tongue rolleyes.gif

Has he been put down?

QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 18 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]514496[/snapback]
My granny in Roxburgh Street made a lovely bit of tongue.

Then down to the Tally's for ice cream and rasberry.

And when I was really good, Sugar Rae's wee sweetie shop as well.

In the great and wonderful scheme of things Newt, it's just remotely possible than without your youthful sweet tooth there would now be no Morton FC.

I'm thinking Micawber style.

Do you think Mr Rae realises that most folk are wondering what the Dickens he's playing at?
mortonjag 2008-09-19 07:09:04
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Sep 18 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]514480[/snapback]
Nice positive post there Allan! huh.gif

'Allan'.

Is there no end to your idiocy, Anus?

It's a bloody ghost! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-19 07:12:48
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Sep 18 2008, 11:13 PM) [snapback]514520[/snapback]
Would have been good to get the club in the limelight for a bit, and the extra £££ would have come in handy of course, but it was never of any concern to me as I was always going to go. Had it been on tv, I think we would have had a pretty poor support up there.

Sadly I guess that will be the case whichever way.
mortonjag 2008-09-19 07:52:05 Roll out the barrel,
Spurtle's a dose of the 'runs'
Roll out the barrel,
Cliffy's been banging his bum
Sing boom tararrel,
Ring out a song of good cheer
Now's the time to roll the barrel,
For the queers are here. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-19 08:04:42
QUOTE(Loveless @ Sep 18 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]514515[/snapback]
£18,000 a year, how can people live on that?

They can and they do-very successfully at times, but they have to forego everything but basics.
mortonjag 2008-09-19 08:15:04
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 18 2008, 05:47 PM) [snapback]514376[/snapback]
He sendas letters to the SFA, scans (probably) and posts the on here without covering the return nme or address.
I'm sure you'll be more than wiling to correct me if and when I am wrong.

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It wasn't me Miss-it was the keyboard! dry.gif

I'm still wondering who this Mr Newall is, SPARROT.

Mortonjag sends letters to the S.F.A., and on one occasion his personal details were accidentally posted on this forum.

Mortonjag has four brothers-funnily enough, all entitled Mr Newall. All are Ton supporters and two contribute to this forum.

Do you refer to one of them?
mortonjag 2008-09-19 08:21:13
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 18 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]514497[/snapback]
A wee bit off topic here.... blink.gif

True Spurtle, and I wonder why? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-19 08:39:31
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 19 2008, 08:10 AM) [snapback]514543[/snapback]
Aye, it's not a bad place to work. Don't forget that the other objection against the school was that it would aso take in waens from Glasgow housing schemes: it still does. Because of their larger catchment areas Catholic schools are much more likely to be genuinely comprehensive.

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A sweeping statement Dr. Bam Taig-don't you think-surely demographic considerations apply rather than a simple prospective pupil per square mile, ratio!

I feel compelled to question the understanding of the word 'comprehensive' in educational circles.

Conceptually admirable, I have oft heard evidence of 'comprehensive' education failing both ends of the ability spectrum in a desperate attempt to be 'inclusive'.

Anyway, we're nicely moving the topic away from the closet bigotry! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-19 09:10:08
QUOTE(EBu @ Sep 19 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]514554[/snapback]
With Ross County being the only northen club I'd hoped they'd have gone with them, and although its not got anything to do with the TV station, the fact that the Rangers - Partick game is on Sky gives Partick yet more cash to strengthen again in January.

We have had rotten luck financially with our two cup runs-Caley at home's a bummer, and the chance of picking up some TV royalties from this one are now scuppered.

Forgetting kudos, we just HAVE to beat Inverness on Tuesday. As you correctly say, Thistle have made a huge amount of money from the cups recently. A similar sum could make quite a difference down Scapa way, if we're still to be stuck with the Rae dynasty next season.
mortonjag 2008-09-19 09:16:42
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 19 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]514555[/snapback]
I hear today that the chairman of this 'Venerable Scottish Institution' is to receive a wee bonus of £2m, just for presiding over its demise. Nae luck for 24,000 of its workers though, all they can expect to receive is their P45. Another example of how corrupt and unjust the system is.

Lust
Gluttony
Greed
Sloth
Wrath
Envy
Pride
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mortonjag 2008-09-19 09:40:38
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 19 2008, 09:28 AM) [snapback]514561[/snapback]
Your completly right about one thing, I aint the brightest. Never will be, but my matric card aint duff. Its perfectly valid. It as part time one cause i am working and doing college stuff for charity.

I only said i would cover the part time bit cause the plastic whistle website keeps going on about full time education.

Are you very wealthy?

If you are I think you should pay to get in! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-19 09:44:44
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 19 2008, 09:34 AM) [snapback]514562[/snapback]
Deleted blink.gif Not by me. Are the mods being selective again?
You know perfectly well what I am on about.
Separate schools, but I did not blame Catholic schools as you clearly implied. It is the entire system that need overhauled. IMO, Schools should be just that, for children where religion plays no part in the curriculum apart from general lessons on the history of all religions. (I know we are going to get, 'but that happens in schools as it is, and schools are mixed places, well not enough).

They still brainwash and instil their own ideologies upon children. Let the children decide outside the school gates for themselves.

There should be no schools funded part-funded or run by ANY religion. Anyone with half a brain understands that if you get kids early you can make them believe anything, and that includes the s***e that is religion.

Again I will ask why is there fear surrounding amalgamating our entire schooling system into one.



I'm sure that if it was left up to God he'd soon sort it out! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-19 10:09:26
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 19 2008, 09:53 AM) [snapback]514574[/snapback]
Fair points there MJ. I can see the reasoning behind it. My post was more a tongue in cheek dig at this Ron Number dude. I wonder if he is linked to this T Cox guy who obviously is getting kicks by slagging me on the Jimi Hendrix thread. I have my suspicions.

I'll have a wee look at that thread-T Cox hasn't bothered Mortonjag.

He's not married to Rosa is he?
mortonjag 2008-09-19 10:35:00
QUOTE(TCox @ Sep 19 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]514589[/snapback]
My name is Tam Cox.

I responded to Weegieton's comment on Jimi Hendrix - who I think is one of the finest guitarists of all time - and in a round about way pointed out that his petty moralistic judgement on Jimi's lifestyle is both pointless and in keeping with the bland nature of the music biz today.

When looking at some of his old posts I noticed that everyone is his "mate". He seems to be the boards resident Smashie and/or Nicie.

No agenda.

Hi mate!
mortonjag 2008-09-19 10:45:51
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 19 2008, 10:03 AM) [snapback]514577[/snapback]
blink.gif feck sake, its not a crusade or conspiracy.
He made an arse of it inventing mankind. rolleyes.gif Sack him I say, he has proved inept at his job, my arse would not touch the ground if I was THAT bad at my job.

P45 for God

He certainly made a c*nt of women's willies.
mortonjag 2008-09-19 12:52:25
QUOTE(TCox @ Sep 19 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]514593[/snapback]
You obviously have an inflated sense of self importance Mr Bland. I was merely commenting on your moralising re the lifestyle of one of the biggest names in rock music, not undertaking a wide ranging internet conspiracy to blacken the names of "important" Morton fans.

BOLLOCKS!

You launched straight into a personal tirade.

QUOTE(cmonaton @ Sep 19 2008, 11:26 AM) [snapback]514607[/snapback]
OMFG.another t*** hits the board.can't post anything construtive,apart from slagging the good long term posters on here.why the hell do you even bother coming on here you sad sack.

It great that some folk are now getting wise to this kind of behaviour.

QUOTE(cmonaton @ Sep 19 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]514614[/snapback]
I am on various forums outwith football.if anybody came on and started this kind of s***,they would be kicked off long ago.banter is one thing,personal tirades is completley different.they have no place on here or anywhere else on the internet..mods take note please.

I hope THE MODS DO TAKE NOTE.

I'm the first to admit that I'm deliberately abrasive, controversial, persistent, and occasionally impertinent, but I'd NEVER adopt an alias for the purpose of attacking other posters and in particular not to attempt to settle old scores.

The Mods know fine well this has now happened to me on at least four occasions recently, and their response has been variable-most commonly to suggest effectively that I deserve it.

In over 25,000 posts I believe I've only complained about two posters, and on both occasions Tontastic essentially told me they were doing nothing wrong. (On both occasions they were of the type I've described.)

Why was that?

I'll leave you lot to decide.

In future cmonaton, I think we may have to take a more united attitude if we see the Ron Number/T Cox syndrome.

Mortonjag has many rivals on this forum, and we frequently 'knock lumps off' each other, but I'll certainly defend any of them against cowardly scummery of the type we've been discussing.
mortonjag 2008-09-19 13:13:38 Mortonjag is as hard as nails in real life. Come to think of it, it IS rather strange that the general perception is of a wimpish old fud! laugh.gif

If half the posters had half a clue about this they'd soon stop abusing the jag on their POUFFE pink keyboards, and scamper beneath their Mummies' skirts whimpering like wounded pups.

Mortonjag reserves the right to remain anonymous but below is a picture of his little brother.
mortonjag 2008-09-19 13:18:53 Many happy returns of the day kiddywinks. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-19 13:27:11
QUOTE(TCox @ Sep 19 2008, 11:22 AM) [snapback]514606[/snapback]
Yes you've got me. I'm jealous.

Thanks mate.


You certainly appear to have some serious psychological problem if you think it's legitimate to fling this kind of stuff at an anonymous poster. Your style is indeed reminiscent of that of Mr 'Number'.

If you're really just honest to goodness Tam Cox, I think Weegie would quite like your address too.

'Marjorie' wants to take up the offer to 'tiffin' you.


What a p u s s y you are. Fancy a nice spot of tiffin Marjorie?

Edited because p u s s y shows up as p***y

mortonjag 2008-09-19 13:35:04
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 19 2008, 01:10 PM) [snapback]514638[/snapback]
Well said MJ. Just be careful or you could be accused of being tarred in this conspiracy against "important" Morton fans wink.gif

Is there a conspiracy Weegie-great-how does one get to join-I don't really care who it's against -it's just that I'd barely know a single poster to speak to so it would be lovely to get into one of the cliques.

I've got money if necessary. biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-19 13:56:55
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 19 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]514648[/snapback]
I actually don't mind aliases but they have to have certain level of humour for it to work, the two most recent are neither funny or witty.

There have been some funny 'wind ups' from aliases. TBH I couldn't care less if another poster assumes half a dozen identities provided they add something to the forum.

That's entirely different from the recent examples as you say. They pretend they have an honest agenda-e.g. TC and his catty comments to Weegie were portrayed as objecting to his 'moralistic' attitude, or Ronnie boy claims he is the champion of non pomposity, when in fact their only agenda is unwarranted attack and abuse.

Not cricket, eh chaps!
mortonjag 2008-09-19 14:02:58
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 19 2008, 01:48 PM) [snapback]514655[/snapback]
If Partick Thistle hosted a game of naked table tennis at the moment it'd be bloody televised.
Returning to their status as media darlings following the demise of that southern Scottish team, what were they called again? They had lllamas...

Thistle deserve the attention they are getting IMO. They have come on in leaps and bounds since we f*cked up that year of the play offs, while we've stagnated before going into decline.

The truth is that for the size and potential of the Club, nobody seems to give a f*ck about Morton those days and the Club has only itself to blame.

Hard to take, and it annoys me too VT, but everybody loves a winner!
mortonjag 2008-09-19 14:09:59
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 19 2008, 02:05 PM) [snapback]514666[/snapback]
I can see where you're coming from but they're still mid-table mediocrities in this division.

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..........and what does that make us-bargain basement rejects?
mortonjag 2008-09-19 14:12:33
QUOTE(king_bob @ Sep 19 2008, 02:10 PM) [snapback]514670[/snapback]
thanks mate

Careful your Majesty-Tam Cox will be on your case!
mortonjag 2008-09-19 14:18:11
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 19 2008, 01:59 PM) [snapback]514664[/snapback]
On a scale of 1-10....... I'm about -10.

Never been in a fight in my life, which probabaly explains how I have managed to hang on to my boyish good looks for so long. blush.gif

You look quite winsome, especially those little sky blue shorts!
mortonjag 2008-09-19 14:23:21
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 19 2008, 01:19 PM) [snapback]514644[/snapback]
So that's who Newton is..
Back on subject. The purchase of HBOS at £12billon must be bargain of the century. It was in far better shape than Northern Rock who have received no less than £25billon from the government so far. HBOS property alone must be worth nearly a billon.

This is defo the union trying to wheel Scotland back in.

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QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 19 2008, 01:44 PM) [snapback]514653[/snapback]
Erm I think that's pretty obvious. rolleyes.gif

I don't understand-has one of them been posting his name and address-if he has, I know which one it'll be-he's just completing the reconstruction of his Chateau in France at the moment! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-19 15:41:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 19 2008, 03:30 PM) [snapback]514689[/snapback]
You've got a rerr talent MJ laugh.gif

Not at all Spurtle-it was your choon-I just corrected the words for you!

I don't have the slightest problem with folk celebrating being British, OR Scottish for that matter.

What's all the fuss about?

Anyway -just for you!



Hark where the night is falling
hark hear the pipes a calling
Loudly and proudly calling down thru the glen
There where the hills are sleeping
Now feel the blood a leaping
High as the spirits of the old highland men

Towering in gallant fame
Scotland my mountain hame
High may your proud standards gloriously wave
Land of my high endeavor
Land of the shining river
Land of my heart forever, Scotland the Brave

High in the misty mountains
Out by the purple highlands
Brave are the hearts that beat beneath Scottish skies
Wild are the winds to meet you
Staunch are the friends that greet you
Kind as the love that shines from fair maidens eyes
mortonjag 2008-09-19 17:59:40 The Mods said:




Moderation
We moderate the forum on a common sense basis and would ask that each of our visitors obeys simple general good manners when posting on the forum.



Ron Number said:


If the cap fits wear it. Or if the cap fits, USE it - advice I wish your mother had heeded nine months before you were born..........


mortonjag 2008-09-19 18:27:34
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Sep 19 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]514782[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2008-09-19 18:48:13
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 19 2008, 04:35 PM) [snapback]514707[/snapback]
Unwarranted attack? Because I disagree with your viewpoint on certain things and take issue with you on the same terms as YOU use against others?/ Come, now, Mr Pot, that's a bit rich - a case of "Do as I SAY, not as I do"??? One law for MJ's attacks, another law for anyone who criticises him....... mad.gif

Because you adopted an alias with the sole purpose of attacking Mortonjag-as CONFIRMED by one of the Mods.

Any poster who really cares about unbiased Moderation only has to look at your first dozen posts for crystal clear confirmation that that is correct.

Mortonjag NEVER descends to the gutter level of wishing death on another poster or wishing that another poster had never been born (amplified with a sneering Smiley).

You've made unwarranted attacks by the barrowload and Mortonjag has NEVER attacked you. Every single post has been in direct response to one of your pieces of filth.

So don't come the puerile and grossly overused 'pot, kettle' routine with me.

Your behaviour is cowardly and reprehensible. I believe that certain elements within the 'Moderation' team are delighted to see Mortonjag vilified.

I believe that is the only reason you are still posting. I could easily put you in your place by resorting to your scumbag tactics, and would be instantly banned by Tontastic.

Your comment about the 'cap fitting' was bang out of order by any standards. That was reported. Nothing happened.

Why are you being allowed to ride roughshod over the forum rules, and breach common decency, when others have been banned for FAR, FAR less?

I suspect you know the answer Ronnie boy.

If not, maybe your luck just ran out.

Then again, if you are just the innocent poster you claim to be, I challenge you to identify yourself. What harm will that do? You may become the new forum hero!
mortonjag 2008-09-19 18:57:13
QUOTE(Deego @ Sep 19 2008, 06:36 PM) [snapback]514828[/snapback]
Ohh I love it when you moan like that, babes. wub.gif

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Thanks for that darling-you made me laugh.

Do you think the weasel will be unmasked before the Mods finally wake up? wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-19 19:02:01
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 19 2008, 06:26 PM) [snapback]514810[/snapback]
It's actually " Alan " wink.gif

Alan/Allan-Anus wouldn't know the difference between that and Casper.
mortonjag 2008-09-19 19:05:52
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 19 2008, 05:04 PM) [snapback]514727[/snapback]
I'm unfamiliar with this acronym. Is it geek speak?



It is no acronym SPARROT-it is an example of onomatopoeia.

Like the sound of a carpet slipper scudding little pink botties.
mortonjag 2008-09-19 19:24:49
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Sep 19 2008, 07:04 PM) [snapback]514855[/snapback]
Eh, people who don't like you tend to persevere with a LOT of mortonjag posts.

You should do the same or ignore him if you don't like him because quite frankly, I don't think anyone else cares.

I'm assuming that that somewhat cryptic post is directed at Mortonjag.


You are pretty near the mark.

I'll tell you one person who DOES care-Weegieton.

Why-because today he was subjected to exactly the type of unwarranted attack by an unidentified poster as Mortonjag's been tolerating for MONTHS.

So a few of us care now GG, and a few of us are on 'weasel alert', and all the poor little offended souls who don't like bad big Mortonjag because they are either too daft to understand him, or just have chipped wee shoulders can attempt to ridicule the legitimacy of my complaint till they soil their nappies, and I won't go away.

I've had two or three pompous slaps on the wrist from Moderator Superior-over what most would have regarded as trivia.

Last night Ron Number went well beyond anything that could be construed as decent.

Decent posters DON'T wish death on others or 'that they had never been born'.

Shimmin Ton got off with the latter also.

I reported the offensive post. Nothing happened.

Folk DON'T tend to care until they are on the receiving end GG.
mortonjag 2008-09-19 19:48:44
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 19 2008, 07:31 PM) [snapback]514871[/snapback]
Somehow that doesn't seem like mortonjag's style... rolleyes.gif

I don't use the huff button Naitch-I've always been able to stand up for myself, and that's EXACTLY why unwarranted personal abuse out of the blue from an anonymous poster who bends the rules and thumbs his nose at the Mods annoys me.

What am I supposed to do? Use his tactics and Tontastic will instantly ban me-GUARANTEED. Let's face it he took great pleasure in banning me for five days for jocularly calling somebody a POUFFE, and it's pretty clear from the few communications we've had-when he could be bothered replying, that he can't stand Mortonjag! laugh.gif

Scumbags like Ronnie Boy (deliberate choice of term) always argue that they are only dishing out what I've already given out. Complete tripe!

I don't expect the ignorant little ephemera who attempt to trivialise the matter to understand-they are in reality only bright enough to be a danger to themselves!

So Naitch-you can join them and have a pop too, or maybe you could consider how you would feel if an anonymous poster wished death on you in all seriousness, and the Mods just stood back apparently scratching their balls.

Weegie got it a wee bit lighter today and he sure knows how it feels too.
mortonjag 2008-09-19 20:07:03
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Sep 19 2008, 07:53 PM) [snapback]514880[/snapback]
Ok, so you've told the mods. If they don't do anything then I'd say it's time to erase the weasels from memory. If the point of this thread is to start a revolt against Ron Number and the Mods though, I'm afraid I'm not in.

Most people should agree that Ron and ShimminTon are cretinous though, if that makes you feel better?

Shimmin Ton is a good guy who made the mistake of joining in the insider anti-Jag nonsense.

Maybe Ron is indeed a misguided soul too. I've invited him to identify himself-maybe he will!

Several other posters have today seriously treated the theme of adopting an Alias with the sole purpose of attacking another/others.

They, like myself, have made it clear that they think it's 'not on'.

I've no intention of 'starting revolts' against anybody-I merely call it as I see it. The abuse I'm currently receiving is a drop in the ocean compared to what I took when I initially called Mr Rae in question, but at least that was abuse from bona fide posters, almost all of whom now agree entirely with my original views.

The point of the thread was to highlight a problem. I've never done it before because I was the sole recipient of that particular form of abuse. Today Weegie was subjected to similar from an apparently different source, and it certainly upset him.

It's about fair play GG, and fair play is supposedly overseen by our Moderators.
mortonjag 2008-09-19 20:18:54
QUOTE(El Duderino @ Sep 19 2008, 08:02 PM) [snapback]514886[/snapback]
"Is there no end to your idiocy, Anus?"

"Indeed Newt-it's chubby little Smegma trying to wind Mortonjag up"

Hmmm, without trying too hard, a quick squiz through just a few of your posts reveals some comments that are personal and abusive.

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That's a PERFECT example of total misunderstanding.

Anus was an affectionate term used in an ongoing joust with my friend whom I previously called Smiffy.

Chubby little Smegma is a not very affectionate term for somebody whom I regard with the same affection as rancid kn*b cheese, but I'd NEVER assume an Alias to attack him, and I certainly wouldn't wish him any physical harm, let alone state that I wished he'd never been born.

Furthermore, as I've repeatedly stated, Mortonjag has NEVER attacked a fellow poster de novo. That is a fact.

I'm away out to buy some rancid kn*b cheese peanuts and a banana for the Monkey's supper.
mortonjag 2008-09-19 20:23:01
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 19 2008, 08:09 PM) [snapback]514889[/snapback]
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Sep 18 2008, 06:57 AM)

Fing is rapidly building up a profile of you 'Speccy'.

26 year old, not very bright, claims to be student, possesses duff matric card-thinks Beermonkey is Mortonjag.

As soon as he's got you for sure you will receive an invitation to Mortonjag's cellar.
--------

And you don't threaten anyone..........


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mortonjag 2008-09-20 08:59:27
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 19 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]514907[/snapback]
Something you do to great effect yourself. Examples have already been given by previous posters.
Is that a fact? No, wait...just your opinion. rolleyes.gif
I would have thought at your age you would have developed a thick skin and took everything on here with a pinch of salt? Clearly not. You can't go running to the mods everytime someone has a go at you.

OK, I went for the monkey's supper, played Scrabble with my partner- a game we astonishingly drew at 341 each, and went to bed early. I had a lovely sleep, which bizarrely was slightly spoiled by the police taking me into custody for murder!

Needless to say I wasn't guilty and I felt pretty powerless, but soon woke up for a piss and problem solved.

I wish it was so easy here. As Weegie agrees, you don't understand until you've been subjected to a Spot Ton, or Ron Number, or in Weegie's case 'Tam Cox'.

Such posters assume an alias with the sole purpose of attacking one target poster.

That, in itself contravenes the forum rules, and THAT IS A FACT.

I hope the Moderators will take appropriate action in future.



mortonjag 2008-09-21 08:35:01
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 20 2008, 11:15 AM) [snapback]515014[/snapback]
There are times when one could think that you are a bit lacking in political correctness! Come the revolution you could be one of the first against the wall!!

Mental Picture laugh.gif laugh.gif

Listen to me, numbers man-political correctness is only correct if Mortonjag decides it's correct.

Any more of your cheek and your large wrinkled pink botty may be in jeopardy. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 08:45:37
QUOTE(Savo @ Sep 20 2008, 09:29 PM) [snapback]515323[/snapback]
Couldn't see him in the directors' box, I don't think he was there today.

Oh dear, I hope he hasn't given up in despair already.

Anyway he's always got Ibrox today. He didn't make all those Millions by throwing his money away.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 08:57:35 ....as I was saying before you interrupted me, I was utterly and absolutely thrilled by those stimulating final minutes at Firhill yesterday-which are a sure sign that we are on the up and up- when only bad luck, two outstandingly superb and out of this world blocks by the Jags goalkeeper, the pigeon flying across Iain's line of vision causing him to pull the shot past the post when he'd otherwise have certainly scored a goal to match his first which I'm sure you'll all agree was fit to win any goal of the season competition, and the referee blowing his whistle when I had computed that, allowing for injuries and substitutions, we still had at least three minutes to play, prevented us from gaining a point we thoroughly deserved, and indeed, the opinion of a couple of lifelong and loyal Ton fans with whom I was conversing on the way back to my Mercedes Benz car was that we had veritably done more than enough in those last few scintillating moments to win the game.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 09:11:45
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 20 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]515362[/snapback]
our support has went from one of the noisiest in the leagues to the quietest in a few seasons. I think the team would benefit from the fans getting behind the team for 90 mins but I can also understand why they get frustrated and disillusioned

Rae!

QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 21 2008, 05:05 AM) [snapback]515446[/snapback]
People are paying in excess of £20 at least every away game to watch the most boring unimaginative performances from our teek week after week, its no f***ing wonder they don't feel like singing. Our fans go to games now out of a sense of loyalty and almost feeling like they have too, and not to get any enjoyment, and if you're not enjoying yourself then you're hardly going to sing.

Don't come on here and moan about it-e-mail the club, or better still do something yourself-BAWBAG! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 09:21:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 09:10 AM) [snapback]515460[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

Aw, come on.

Mr Donald is just feigning less interest in the Ton.

Why ?

He knows that DDFR is now on the back foot.

7 matches - 3 points.

Whatever Mr Donald offered a few months ago, he won't offer again in a hurry.

Now there are 3 FACTS that reduce DDFR negotiating position:

The credit crunch and recession are worsening.
The crowds at Cappielow are declining.
The probability of relegation has skyrocketed.

Has DDFR over played his hand ?

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Mr Newton, I couldn't help noticing the remarks you have made and I hope you won't mind if I jump in with some comments which I'm going to do anyway to the effect that Golden Casket will benefit hugely from the credit crunch as more and more people have their three piece suites and cars repossessed and increase their comfort eating, while the crowds at Cappielow have in no manner or fashion or indeed shape diminished in real terms, as my loyal and worthy accounting people would tell you, and talking of skyrockets, wasn't it so exciting and thrilling when the parachutists descended to celebrate our momentous achievement in getting to the first division, a place from where I thoroughly assure you we only intend to move upwards.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 09:25:30
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 09:19 AM) [snapback]515465[/snapback]
MJ, did you see a Rae of light yesterday ?

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It was the loveliest Saturday afternoon for many weeks Newt. Similar indeed to that of 26th April. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 09:31:36
QUOTE(Savo @ Sep 20 2008, 09:25 PM) [snapback]515319[/snapback]
Surprised at some of the reactions to the performance here. I thought we were mediocre at best.

At the back, the way we lost both goals was very poor. For Thistle's first, Roberts should never be able to drift away inside the box & find as much space as he did. He then had time to dink the ball over to the back post and it's a simple header home. Not good enough.

The second goal starts with a really poor shanked clearance out the park under no pressure. The throw is badly defended, Dom (excellent throughout) had to get his head in the way of a shot, it goes out for a corner, and we fail to defend that too. A catalogue of avoidable errors.

I also think it's sad that everyone got so excited by the award of a free kick just as Masterton was waiting to come on. Is that all we have got to offer in a creative sense now? sad.gif

We've become a horrible side to watch. We sit in, we throw long balls up to an isolated attack, we are unbelievably one-paced, we lack leadership, we don't have any real craft or invention and, basically, we look a bad lot who thoroughly deserve to be bottom of the league.

It cannot go on like this.

Incidentally, seeing as this is the post-match thread, did anyone else see Crawford Rae still sitting in his seat for ages after the game had ended? He looked very down. Everyone else had long since left the directors' box and he sat there alone, staring into space.

Maybe AD HAS pulled out.

If so Sugar Daddy has finally pulled the plug on us with his 'excellent managers'.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 09:34:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 09:28 AM) [snapback]515469[/snapback]
Golden Casket will benefit hugely from the credit crunch
Do Fry in the UK still sell Crunchies ?

Would the Credit Crunchy sell well ?

Dark chocolate and/or milk chocolate ?

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a place from where I thoroughly assure you we only intend to move upwards.

The best of intentions may go astray ... just like shots on goal.

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I ask the questions here Mr Newton.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 09:48:31
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 09:14 AM) [snapback]515462[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

How does the last chapter of the biography finish please ?

Please give it a happy ending.

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If only I could-

I had an horrific dream last night. An old gentleman with silvery grey hair, and gleaming white dentures, was lovingly feeding sugar lumps to his pet donkey (Dave) when he was bitten fiercely on the bottom by a rabid Dalmation.

Prompt intervention was hampered when the only 'on the spot' First Aider's 999 call was interrupted by onlookers shouting 'Dae sumpin ya Muppet', causing him to dial the Ron Number and be told somebody wished he'd never been born.

That's when the dream ended Newt.

mortonjag 2008-09-21 09:57:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]515474[/snapback]
NEVER ask a question unless you know the answer.

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Correct Mr Newall Newton, and never tell a lie unless you know the truth.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 10:00:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]515471[/snapback]
I thought the Ton won on 26 April.

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Indeed they did and everybody felt jolly and was singing 'There's only one Davie Irons', and Mortonjag was wished a slow and painful death for suggesting that Mr Rae had a cheek to join the celebrations! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 10:05:33
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Sep 20 2008, 05:25 PM) [snapback]515191[/snapback]
well here we are in the cold light of day after yet another defeat all be it away to Partick, we have played relegation tipped clyde and airdrie, a draw and a heavy defeat respectively, we only have ross county who were other relegation tipped side to play. Next week is a must win, a draw will be unacceptable. I was not there today but listened to the webcast and it would appear that the defense is back to its old frailties. what does the gaffer have to do to put it right as it would seem that some of the players aint up to the task.

does the manager be strong and start dropping non performers and blood some of the younger guys or is he going to continue with the same sub standard performances that we have seen on the park. the midfield is woeful and the strikers aint scoring. I fear for us on Tuesday I really do and I cant see the fans really getting up for this one.

I hope that there is improvement but it will need to be massive ro get the fans back on side, I think Irons is a good manager being let down by a group of sub standard players who have not turned up in the league. maybe they are big time charlies........................................MORTON FOR THE CUP.


I think an unbalanced squad of pretty good players is being let down by an inexperienced Manager.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 10:11:53
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 21 2008, 02:23 AM) [snapback]515409[/snapback]
No matter what yer tactics are, yer 4-5-1 stating that we are not leakinbg goals, GERFUY. The team is rank, pish.

We " the fans will just have to get used to it, we are not conceding goals "

Dont make me laugh.

Away and take a f***ing hike

Dear Mr Ghost,

I am fairly certain that you and your fellow fans are well aware that I wished to retain the services of that impeccably excellent Manager Jim McInally, whose comparable record to date this season proves beyond the remotest shadow of doubt in this results driven business that I, as ever, was correct.

Your Aye

Douglas.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 10:14:39
QUOTE(Capuan @ Sep 21 2008, 10:12 AM) [snapback]515489[/snapback]
The only way that a change of chairman is gonna make ANY difference is if he's a Brooks Mileson-esque sugar daddy who will plow in countless millions. As mentioned before Mr Rae has put a lot of money into the club over the last year by the signings of former SPL players which, all things being even SHOULD be performing a lot better for the club than they are currently doing. Several of which are amoung the top earners in the division.

Compare that team yesterday to the team that won 3-0 at the end of last season. The only 2 outfield changes are Smith and Shimmin (ironically the 2 players which, as suggested elsewhere in this thread, have made an improvement to our team.) The apparent difference here seems to be complete lack of motivation by several players on the field. This is the most immediate problem at Cappielow, not the chairman.

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Really!
mortonjag 2008-09-21 10:17:05
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Sep 21 2008, 08:01 AM) [snapback]515448[/snapback]
It's hard to imagine that we could have uncovered a poorer manager than McInally but I'm beginning to believe that it the case. I wasn't happy when Irons was appointed because I saw no evidence that he had what it takes. There were plenty of stories about him being the real driving force behind Alexander but Gretna's stumble to the SPL when he took over and their performances in it (albeit in difficult circumstances) didn't give me any confidence.

The last 2 game heroics from last season earned the guy some respect but the fact is his overall record in charge is worse than McInally's, his signings with few exceptions have been poor or bizarre, his tactics are woeful and guaranteed to empty Scappa and for all his animated running about like a headless chicken he doesn't seem to be able to organise or motivate effectively. The handling of the budget whatever it was appalling, although some may blame Rae for being stingy with the cash, however as usual teams with far less to spend than us are making us look like amateur mugs.

No doubt I'll be accused by some of pressing the panic button but this is nothing to do with panic as much of this was fairly predictable. Sadly the only one who can do something positive is the guy with the worst record of signing managers in the history of Morton.

....and that IS where the buck stops.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 10:22:07
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 21 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]515493[/snapback]
Why in the pre-match warm up did DDF shout DI over, taking him away from his duties of getting the team ready?

Must have been some relevant information because surely he wasn't talking tactics unsure.gif I thought the days of interference of the coaching side was over.

Don't you believe it Barbie-the old fud still can't keep his big neb out of anything.

Prior to our last away game at Dundee he strode half way round the pitch in front of his adoring fans and engaged DI in avid conversation for fully fifteen minutes leaving DC and DW to get on with the warm up and briefings.

If one solitary fan can justify that-let's hear it!
mortonjag 2008-09-21 10:24:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]515485[/snapback]
If you don't want to tell a lie, just ignore THE letter.

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mortonjag 2008-09-21 10:31:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 10:03 AM) [snapback]515483[/snapback]
nearly 5 months, and yer hanging in.

is it feeling more slow and painful than watching the Ton ???

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His wish didn't come true. Mortonjag is arguably in much better condition than the Ton.

Mortonjag has an excellent manager who knows exactly how much control to exercise for best performance! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 10:46:16 When all else fails-blame the players!!!

Yesterday was not NEARLY as bad as everybody seems to think, and it's absolutely facile IMHO to suggest that the players weren't trying hard enough.

I think we should bin Jimbo and Superkev because they are absolutely crap wingers, and we desperately need wingers, but those boys are still doing their very best.

Mr Irons has had a very good reception from a very patient fan base, but the truth is gradually dawning on me- a truth I DIDN'T want to believe-he's tactically VERY naive.

If anybody had said to any of you before the season started that in late September four of the subs would be Jenkins, McManus, Weatherson, and Masterton, you'd probably have imagined we must be topping the league.

Yesterday's delaying the inevitable substitutions till it was beyond redemption was TOTALLY INEXPLICABLE to me.

The defence was playing solidly enough-two daft goals-aye-but other than that Cuthbert had little to do.

Up front we had Wakey working his baws of as usual with Russell, and then we had the rest, and the rest was f*ckin' mince yesterday, and I'm sure the boys themselves would agree, so what did DI do?

Waited till we've got a bare ten or so minutes left before chucking on three of them and the difference was immediate. Composure took over from chaos, we started really hurting the Jags, and we COULD have got a draw- a draw that the Jags fan who sat with us said we 'ultimately deserved'.

So don't confuse bad form, or damned good opponents with 'not showing a leg'.

Just a wee thought-did Rae tell DI to keep half a mind on Tuesday? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 10:59:23
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 10:48 AM) [snapback]515507[/snapback]
"It already looks a bit desperate for us. The players understand they are letting the team and the fans down."
We don't want their understanding ... we need their CHANGE !!!
... for the better.

If that's a quote from DI he can go take a flying f*ck to himself.

Man managent par excellence! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 11:03:16 I heard a wee whisper that Mr Rae won't be there to answer any questions. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 11:08:46
QUOTE(wanderton @ Sep 20 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]515340[/snapback]
spot on

R.I.P?

QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Sep 21 2008, 01:30 AM) [snapback]515394[/snapback]
alex williams to be back at cappielow by january biggrin.gif

and MJ to put in an offer to buy out Dougie and Co... laugh.gif

The way things are going sonny boy, that's looking financially quite possible! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 11:50:51
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Sep 21 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]515517[/snapback]
http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/sport-news/sco...78057-20746464/

there ye go mj i know you dont read these rags but here it is for yourself. fantastic bit of blame mongering.

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I do read it-just hadn't until now!

And a rag indeed-have a look at the player ratings if you want a real laugh. The comparison which really amuses me is McAlister 7: Smith 6.

I'm losing respect for Mr Irons. Played 7 scored 2 can't JUST be because the boys ain't trying.

Mind you he's got the best worst defence in the league too.

'Building the squad from the spine first' indeed, and umpteen daft fans bought that hook line and sinker.

His
squad selection is the real problem-that and the fact that he lost Jon Newby who COULD at least drift left and double as a winger-possibly through abysmal man management.

He's beginning to come over as a big cry baby-blaming others for the broken toy he bought!
mortonjag 2008-09-21 11:59:58
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 21 2008, 11:28 AM) [snapback]515521[/snapback]
You should put your cards on the table (and say what you really want to instead of p***y footing about it), you were never happy with the appointment of Irons, you are not prepared to give him a chance even though he saved us from certain 2nd division football this season where I've no doubt in my mind any other appointment would not have pulled off the great escape. You sound to me as if you (as well as few others on here) would be dancing for joy if he was to be sacked tomorrow, again in my opinion there is to many on here who have strong opinions (which is never a bad thing) but are so frightened of being proved wrong they would rather see failure than success.

Yes Davie was my preferred choice, he successfully kept us in this division against the odds last season, but I will pass judgement on him come the end of the season, if we finish 8th.9th or 10th then he has failed (in my opinion) but FFS give him a chance.

Jim-that is exactly the way the fans reacted to criticism of JM in the early days.

I still have hopes of Davie Irons, but in no way am I going to spare him criticism if I see it's due, and at the moment he's making a complete C*NT of it.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 12:16:43
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Sep 21 2008, 11:55 AM) [snapback]515530[/snapback]
I'm sure doctor jag can pass on his long distance diagnosis to jim and he can relay it by carrier pigeon, I't will be quicker and more accurate than if we had Quincey in the shed. rolleyes.gif

I'm sure YOU must understand that! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 12:20:16
QUOTE(Andy M @ Sep 20 2008, 09:38 PM) [snapback]515326[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-09-21 12:23:12 Everybody's heard of Kerry Packer, but few have heard of his wife Fanny.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 12:28:09
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 19 2008, 05:13 PM) [snapback]514735[/snapback]
Wouldn't say I was a hard man by any means, but I did box as a teenager. I broke my hand/wrist/finger ironically in a street fight. My short career came to an end although I continued with the boxing club for a few years sparring etc.
My mates did reasonably well, one was a Scottish champion, and my other mate won a Silver at the Commonwealth Games.

Aye right Spurtle-and Mr Auld paid you handsomely for your troubles with an odd 'special' flung in on pay day.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 12:43:36 Given that Shaggy is reffing our match on Tuesday, I'm sure we all wish him simply the best.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 12:51:27
QUOTE(cmonaton @ Sep 21 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]515533[/snapback]
then half this forum would be banned from Cappielow !!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Don't be daft-they'd all be welcomed with open arms. It's quite understandable that they resent somebody whose impeccable standards are something of which they can only dream. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 13:03:22
QUOTE(capitanus @ Sep 21 2008, 12:16 AM) [snapback]515378[/snapback]
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Get it right up ye Alibi.

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I have to say that for once I whole heartedly agree with Alibi's assessment of a truly despicable practice.

HAHA
mortonjag 2008-09-21 13:09:12
B



Many happy returns from the Monkey, Fing, and Jag!
mortonjag 2008-09-21 13:11:56 I'm not really into gigs and stuff, though I've heard Peter Weatherson's band is good.

See this Morrison bloke-is he a relative of Andy M?
mortonjag 2008-09-21 13:20:00
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 21 2008, 01:11 PM) [snapback]515562[/snapback]
It' what they get up to in one church.

The hands are something else.

Anyone else think about Kenny Everett's "Brother Lee Love" when they saw that clip. happy.gif

Brother Lee Love

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Incidentally Dr Bam, this innocent wee soul is a product of a Baptist Church upbringing-the religious side of which I rejected from the age of about fourteen, and I can state categorically that Mr McCurry knew EXACTLY what he was doing, and what would be taken from it.

It looks like one of his faithful flock has been-shall we say- a little unfaithful.

Either that or Shaggy should be vetting all his prospective adherents after his recent exploits!!!

Journalists can have extremely un Christ like attributes!
mortonjag 2008-09-21 13:28:44
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 21 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]515565[/snapback]
I still don't know why we need a chairman to invest money into ourselves year after year anyway - its clear to me that the cash is being squandered unnecessarily and/or being diverted fom where it needs to be. Develop the WDE is good, but the level of playing staff can't be said to be better than the likes of Airdrie who have fewer resources (although have a lucrative sponsorship deal for this season). While welcoming investment we should also be striving to be self-sufficient. If Mr Rae can do this then he has delivered long-term stability to Morton that can only be regarded as success.

I agree with the drift of your post but I'm not clear what it is you want him to do.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 13:35:23
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 21 2008, 01:10 PM) [snapback]515558[/snapback]
Morton could play 5-5-5 at the moment and still lose a bloody game.
There's a general malaise from boardroom downwards IMO - how many players perform well against us and don't perform when they arrive here?
I fail to see how the midfield cannot function in a 4/5 man system. We have played 3-4-3, 3-5-2, 4-4-2 and 4-5-1 this season - the move towards the latter was Irons only option to try and stem the flow of goals.
As much as I'm concerned about the manangement side its time the players stood up and took their sizeable share of responsibility - few earned pass marks yesterday and more than a few appeared to hide when the going got tough in the midfield.
Too often at Morton we appear to have tarred and burned the manager (most often rightly) yet failed to get rid of the players culpable too.

Then why were they not subbed? We had decent subs on the bench. They were left doing SFA until it was obviously a lost cause and STILL almost contrived to snatch a draw for us. As another poster said, the players obey instructions or get 'hooked'. I don't think anybody was 'hiding' yesterday-just crap.

Blame lies entirely at DI's feet IMO.

QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 21 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]515566[/snapback]
I'm not denying he has and is making mistakes, my point is that there is some who no matter what, will never give him a fair crack at the whip, like I said they would prefer failure so they could get satisfaction out of saying I told you so.

Jim, are you honestly suggesting that certain posters want the Ton to lose matches?
mortonjag 2008-09-21 13:39:58
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 21 2008, 01:34 PM) [snapback]515579[/snapback]
Make Morton self-sufficient. The sentence immediately before the highlighted one.

If I understand 'self sufficiency', you mean profitable.

How do you propose he set about that, starting right now?
mortonjag 2008-09-21 13:42:51
QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Sep 21 2008, 01:33 PM) [snapback]515578[/snapback]
do we have to bring a friend rolleyes.gif

The only thing you'll 'have' to do after the Monkey takes charge is make sure you get to Cappielow nice and early! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 13:50:01
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 20 2008, 11:37 AM) [snapback]515035[/snapback]
Up until a few years ago I used to play 5s twice a week which helped keep me reasonably fit. But when I stopped due to a dodgy knee the weight piled on. Not overnight, but gradually over a period of 3-4 of years.

So just over a year ago I started walking a lot for exercise. It doesn't sound much, but in fact it's great exercise. I know it's a bit sad, but I've actually kept a record of how far I've walked for exercise since I started and just yesterday I clocked up my 1000th km. Also now I do lots of little things like at work not taking the lift and using the stairs. I've also drastically reduced my swally intake which has also helped.

Since starting I've lost 6kg but more importantly I feel much fitter and healthier, and things that used to make me breathless a while ago are now a piece of piss.

A sensible diet and brisk walking is the ideal combination, and one that can be pursued throughout ones life.

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 20 2008, 11:43 AM) [snapback]515040[/snapback]
Up being the optimum word. Height-weight ratios are where it's at, and for the matter, you're incorrect.

Height weight ratios are notoriously inaccurate as an assessment of obesity.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 13:58:16
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Sep 21 2008, 01:47 PM) [snapback]515588[/snapback]
I don't think that would necessarily mean profitable, just not operating at a loss as we currently are - and as we currently are we could not continue at that loss without Rae.

Which begs the question-is that perhaps the way he wants it?
mortonjag 2008-09-21 14:00:19
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 21 2008, 01:49 PM) [snapback]515589[/snapback]
What I'm saying is some posters would prefer to be proved right to inflate their own ego even if that means losing games rather than having to admit they were wrong, so I suppose Yes that's what I'm saying.

I find it hard to get my head round that Jim.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 14:03:59
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 21 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]515592[/snapback]
My old man once said a doctor said to him "the best way of telling you are overweight is looking at the mirror and deciding".

....doesn't work if you are anorexic I guess!

Did your old man suffer from anorexia?
mortonjag 2008-09-21 14:07:09
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 21 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]515598[/snapback]
I'm not talking about guys who are going to every game or almost every game, there are plenty on here who use to go everywhere but now pick and chose, there are people within that bracket that don't particularly give a toss no more and when we lose it just massages there 'I told you so' ego.

I don't think I'd describe people like those as Morton fans.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 14:16:34 I know it's a complex issue, but the current unrest seems to throw up those three contenders for the title of main culprit-The Chairman, the Manager, and the Squad.

I am in absolutely no doubt that blame lies fairly and squarely with the man who holds total control of the Club.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 14:28:30
QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Sep 21 2008, 02:06 PM) [snapback]515601[/snapback]
i thought he made a massive impact last season
after all he came in and replaced McLaughlin and you could see the difference immediately.

still the past is the past and at this moment in time he is bloody shockin

Big Erik seems to be going through something of a confidence crisis at the moment. He is FAR from 'crap', and was a huge influence in the latter games of last season.

He's never going to be a play maker or particularly creative-he SHOULD have at least one colleague who can fulfil that role, but the current midfield ALL want rid of the ball.

He's a victim of an extremely unbalanced and poorly selected squad, and he certainly shouldn't have to carry the can for that.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 15:07:11
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Sep 21 2008, 02:46 PM) [snapback]515614[/snapback]
Fine.

Davie was not my preferred choice - nor was Collins, but we are stuck with them for the moment.
HE did not save us from relegation - getting rid of McInally did. The team got a much needed boot up the arse and avoided relegation on goals scored.

I would not be "dancing with joy" if he was sacked - I have no desire to see anyone lose their job regardless of what it is, unless convicted of criminal activities. I want him to get us playing some bloody football and chuck the farting about with the formations crap.

This is our worst start to a league season since before 3 points for a win was introduced - even in relegation seasons we had more points than this on the board, usually relying on Partick or Brechin to give us a rare win. By comparison, it is actually worse than anything we ever did under McGraw.

Sorry, I'm ranting a bit.
Everything is fine and we are in no danger, of course. mellow.gif

Fair play.

Are you one of those who currently want Morton to lose in order that you can 'massage your ego'-as another poster has described them?
mortonjag 2008-09-21 15:09:57
QUOTE(standman @ Sep 21 2008, 02:46 PM) [snapback]515615[/snapback]
Savo hits the nail on the head when he mentions how one paced we are.

Which makes it even more unbelievable that we replaced Finlayson with Weatherson
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McGuffie can't go up the gears and big Eric is slow in pace and thought.

In such a crucial area you can't afford to play both of these guys together in my opinion.

Finlayson was effectively invisible yesterday. I'd happily have replaced him with Puggsy.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 15:15:40
QUOTE(Toby @ Sep 21 2008, 02:47 PM) [snapback]515616[/snapback]
The role of the support's a very interesting point.

I've definitely become more cynical in the Rae years, possibly just because my desperation for the club to survive made me support them regardless of how poor they were in the Scott/administration days.

However, the one significant day that springs to mind for me was 10th March 2007. A 3-0 win at Alloa on the way to the 2nd Division title. I was standing next to Savo at the time and he pointed out to me the body language of the players after the goals and when leaving the park at full time. There was quite clearly a "them and us" mentality between the players and fans and I'd suggest it's grown ever since.

Incidents such as Weatherson cupping his ear after scoring against Gretna at Palmerston, Weatherson "saluting" the fans after being substituted at Airdrie the other week (anyone notice the common denominator here?) only exemplify this point.

The breakdown in the relationship can probably be tracked back to the betting scandal of 2004, and Jim McInally commented before we played Motherwell in the cup in 2007 that there's always been an element of mistrust between the club and the fans. One of the few things he was right about!

One solution is to try and rid the club of any reminders of 2004. As Largston's suggested in the past, rid the club of it's one remaining bad apple from that time, Peter Weatherson. Gerry infact refuses to go back to Cappielow now until he's gone, such is his fury with the carry on after getting substituted at Airdrie.

My main gripes however are clearly with the running of the club. I find it difficult to give my undying support to them when I can't abide the Raes, Donaldsons, Gregorys, Cowdens etc. of this world.

Rae's comparisons between us and the Celtic fans still rankle with me, as does his refusal to retract them, Crawford calling this board a "rag", when all it is is an opinion forum for the lifeblood of the club being another thing.

Let's look at it this way, when things were rosy, we were always getting the "From The Office Of the Chairman" threads. Now, with the growing sense of apathy in the last few years, we've not heard a thing for fear of criticism.

Even the wonderful Q & A sessions are timed to perfection and he only answers the questions that he wants to answer. The last one was just after ther appointment of the new management team when we were encouraged to look to the future and forget what's gone on before as it can't be changed, regardless of how relevant questions might have been. Would he hold one now when everyone's absolutely raging? No, turkeys don't vote for Christmas.

As GG says, he didn't feel like shouting and singing yesterday. I never feel like it these days, and it's little wonder.

But we can't start a TTGR campaign, because the old fud's got us all by the short and curlies?
mortonjag 2008-09-21 15:18:12 I thought I just had one deleted but it was in fact merged without any indication, and disappeared from my 'topics'!

Edinton's not around!


BRYAN


Guilty or not guilty? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 15:29:09
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Sep 21 2008, 03:09 PM) [snapback]515626[/snapback]
Nope - I have never wanted to see Morton lose.

I'll wager a fair few of the McInally haters did though.

Did anybody actually 'hate' him. I ended up feeling a bit sorry for him TBH, though I was delighted when he chucked it.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 15:30:45
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 21 2008, 03:17 PM) [snapback]515636[/snapback]
I'll get off the bench next week smile.gif

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I want you on on Tuesday ya coward.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 15:35:12 Well?
mortonjag 2008-09-21 15:39:05
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Sep 21 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]515654[/snapback]
you

Even with the monkey mask on you've spotted the true culprit.

WELL DONE THAT MAN!

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mortonjag 2008-09-21 15:41:01
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 21 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]515647[/snapback]
C'mon tae f***, obviously someone was fast enough to weild the axe, answer the bloody queries. mad.gif

Maybe they're too shy!
mortonjag 2008-09-21 15:43:57
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 21 2008, 03:23 PM) [snapback]515643[/snapback]
Aye it was stupid, it's not a hanging offence though.

Not unless we fail to win come Tuesday!
mortonjag 2008-09-21 15:48:48
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 21 2008, 03:43 PM) [snapback]515658[/snapback]
Under who's authority where these threads deleted, was it the mods, or are they pandering to outside influences?

I've often wondered about that possibility too.

At the end of the day they can do that if they please, but it wouldn't exactly endear them to the forum users I'd guess.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 15:52:27
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 21 2008, 03:47 PM) [snapback]515660[/snapback]
The Mods unsure.gif

HMM-do you think they've had a message from crisis talks at Cappielow?
mortonjag 2008-09-21 16:10:18
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 21 2008, 04:05 PM) [snapback]515666[/snapback]
As I said in another thread, the buck stops with the head of the organisation. In our case the Chairman.

But for performances on the park Irons has to take part of the blame. The players are under-performing so they must accept part of the blame too.
Right now it is a mess. How long can it go on is probably what the big question that needs to be asked

...who can continue to do exactly as he pleases and like Nero continue to fiddle while Rome burns?
mortonjag 2008-09-21 16:20:12 Pomposity, dismissiveness, and self opinionation are surely the sole realm of the Jagmeister.

Do we have a young buck sharpening his horns on the nearest tree?

I give you:

Dry your eyes. The multiple threads with the same theme were merged, none were deleted.!


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mortonjag 2008-09-21 16:24:13
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Sep 21 2008, 04:21 PM) [snapback]515672[/snapback]
Wake looks very lazy to me. Recently anyway.

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Works his bloody baws off in every game until the fans expect EVEN more.

Some poor c*nts just can't win it seems. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 16:27:40
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Sep 21 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]515678[/snapback]
He's not doing very much. The ball gets humped up to him and inevitably he takes a bad touch and either falls over or runs into someone and passes it back for it to punted up to him again. He was very unproductive and not enough of a nuisance to Thistle defence yesterday.

You accused him of 'laziness'.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 16:30:07
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Sep 21 2008, 04:27 PM) [snapback]515681[/snapback]
correct action by the mods, too many threads on the same subject, so dry your eyes

I didn't question the action! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 16:32:37
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 21 2008, 04:08 PM) [snapback]515668[/snapback]
Berti Auld ?

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Don't be silly Spurtle!
mortonjag 2008-09-21 16:36:05
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Sep 21 2008, 04:28 PM) [snapback]515682[/snapback]
Yes because he seems to think he is now a hero who doesn't have to as muchwork anymore - and he isn't.

Really-were you chatting to him recently?
mortonjag 2008-09-21 16:45:05
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Sep 21 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]515686[/snapback]
glad to see you have got the point eventually, he owns the club he can do whatever he likes with it, whether the fans, players, management, companies house etc.. feel he is getting things wrong its still his club.

I know bigdoc-it just came to me in a flash of inspiration this afternoon when Barbie was asking if the Mods could have been 'got at'! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 16:49:12
QUOTE(Mags @ Sep 21 2008, 04:40 PM) [snapback]515691[/snapback]
That's bollocks !!
I was....and the guy's the total opposite from how GG describes him.
Mags.

I'm unsurprised. The big man's work ethic is an example to everybody. I understand the fans getting frustrated right now-I can even understand some players feeling 'abused' by the system, and maybe their hearts not being in it as much as they could be, but if fingers have to be pointed, I'd like to see them pointed correctly.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 16:52:49
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 21 2008, 04:49 PM) [snapback]515694[/snapback]
...wait are people moaning about the guys who run this for free?

....well heaven to betsy!

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and I'm only allowed eight!
mortonjag 2008-09-21 17:02:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 04:54 PM) [snapback]515699[/snapback]
Do not discount the power of the Supporters' Trust.

And the other minority shareholders.

It is NOT Sugar Rae's club.

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75.1% is not 100%

....but he can still do exactly as he pleases to whomsoever he please, whenever he please! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 17:09:23 Just wondered? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 17:11:51
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Sep 21 2008, 05:02 PM) [snapback]515702[/snapback]
Wake doesn't chase very much. If it comes within reach of his foot he might stretch for it a wee bit but other than that, I've been very disappointed with his effort the last couple of weeks.

Edit: effort that guys like Weatherson and Masterton don't get away with!

Could it be that you are confusing your assessment of his effort with his effort?
mortonjag 2008-09-21 17:14:12
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 05:12 PM) [snapback]515710[/snapback]
... could be a close call.

It's not exactly threatening to the status quo!
mortonjag 2008-09-21 17:17:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 05:07 PM) [snapback]515706[/snapback]
OK, MJ, forget the Trust's 10 pound scheme.

If things don't improve ASAP, how many supporters will invest 150 pounds to attend the AGM in December ?

How many would it take to achieve critical mass ?

And, MJ, as I am sure you realise, these are serious questions, mate.

Just as has been every question I've asked of the establishment in the last three years Newt!

Supposing we achieved the 'critical mass'-what then?
mortonjag 2008-09-21 17:20:56
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 21 2008, 05:16 PM) [snapback]515715[/snapback]
Not heard that expression in years! biggrin.gif
Correct decision to merge the threads in this case. Nothing was deleted, nothing is being hidden. The conspiracy theorists can give it a rest on this one.

WHY? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 17:30:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 05:22 PM) [snapback]515719[/snapback]
Sorry, MJ, I don't have a copy of the memorandum and articles of association of Morton Football Club Limited at my finger tips.

However, how many unhappy minority shareholders would it take to change the Cappielow light bulb ?

50 ?

100 ?

200 ?

I'm afraid I don't fully understand the process. Do you mean that the Chairman could be forced to resign even if he still had the majority share in the club. Is that how the Trust works?
mortonjag 2008-09-21 17:37:34
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Sep 21 2008, 05:20 PM) [snapback]515718[/snapback]
WHY? ph34r.gif

I was expecting one of your snap responses. I'll tell you what I think. Several posters starting several individual threads was a very strong demonstration of feeling---------of anti establishment feeling.

One of the establishment saw fit to muffle that very vocal protest by 'appropriately' merging the threads.

I don't see that as dictatorship-more as self protection, and I suppose I can't blame folk for putting their own selfish interests before the common good. It's only human nature.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 17:40:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 05:17 PM) [snapback]515716[/snapback]
What happens when MJ has 75.1% of the posts ?

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He gets a gold medal from Tontastic?
mortonjag 2008-09-21 18:13:12
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Sep 21 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]515726[/snapback]
It's that his workrate has dropped over the past couple of league games and I'm unhappy about that. I'm not suggesting that he is one of the worst performers or one of the reasons why we're not doing very well but I do believe he is not as much of a threat as he should be at the moment because he isn't giving his all. I expect every player to give it 100%.

It's a pretty damning accusation GG!
mortonjag 2008-09-21 18:24:54
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Sep 21 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]515729[/snapback]
When I see 6+ page threads I usually can't be bothered trawling through them, but this one is actually quite interesting.

Someone said "we all wanted Irons" or such like - this is complete baws. A few, myself included, were not happy with his appointment, but our faith in him was boosted by us staying up. It appears that really, it was getting rid of McInally that kept us up.
Irons cannot find a consistent approach - this was even evident last season in lesser matters when we did a funny "half-time warm up" thingy then dropped it for reasons unexplained. In the plus column, he CAN call substitutions correctly when previous managers like McInally and McGraw were utterly clueless in that department. Subs rarely have a massive effect on an overall season, however.

As I said on another thread, this is our worst start to a season since 3 points for a win was introduced. In our many relegation seasons we had more than 3 points at this stage. sad.gif

I'd strongly dispute that with reference to yesterday's game.

I was relieved when JM walked. I hoped we'd sign an experienced manager, but doubted if Rae would like the idea of that. I wasn't unhappy when DI/DC arrived, especially when the stories started coming through about a vast improvement in training and coaching and the 'players being delighted'.

Having said that, I'm a great believer in examining evidence, and the evidence available to date suggests that he has made a poor job of building his 'small quality squad' because it's been built on an inflexible game plan which has so far failed.

My hope is that come the January window enough money is made available to rectify mistakes, if indeed there is acknowledgement that mistakes have been made. I don't fear relegation-not yet!

I've also been bitterly disappointed by what has ultimately looked like very bad man-management, with players being forced to accept the blame for managerial inexperience.

If, as some are suggesting, the squad is not fully pulling its weight, the buck still stops at the manager's door.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 18:57:20
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Sep 21 2008, 06:31 PM) [snapback]515735[/snapback]
Nero didnt fiddle while rome burned aaaactually. There is no evidence that supports that claim, but hey, since when did that stop you wink.gif

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I don't give a f*ck whether he fiddled with a lute, a flute, or the tail of his wine stained toga, he still 'fiddled'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 19:01:51
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 21 2008, 06:38 PM) [snapback]515739[/snapback]
Probably because it's true. Same could be said for a few others, however.

I believe you may have intended-'Because it's probably true', and I invite you to amend your post.

You could alternatively furnish proof of your accusation!
mortonjag 2008-09-21 19:07:22
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 21 2008, 06:36 PM) [snapback]515737[/snapback]
Nice try.

I'm off to watch the rest of the Ryder Cup, far more entertaining that this thread.

Can we close this thread just to annoy MJ further? rolleyes.gif

I'm far from annoyed-just amused young man that others are noticing something which has been staring me in the face for ages.

You cannot serve two masters-that's a very sound piece of advice.

You should listen to Mortonjag's advice every so often. It will stand you in good stead-even if you are a golfer! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 20:11:41
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Sep 21 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]515752[/snapback]
"Come back Chris Millar, please. sad.gif"

why? i think the last thing we need is a lightweight midfielder who hides most games

I agree, but I'd happily have Midge back tomorrow.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 20:17:09
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Sep 21 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]515748[/snapback]
no what happens is the guys who run this forum for free get pissed off and walk away from it, mortonjag is doing to this board what he thinks dougie rae is doing to his own football club, the thing is, without this forum mortonjag has no platform to air his childish attacks on dougie rae as he has proved in the past, all keyboard and no substance. This forum does not speak for the majority of fans, just the ones who have little else to do with their time than to keep their post rate up. And the funny is that there is big trouble brewing down cappielow way and there has not been one post about it, and im positive there must be more people with info on this apart from little old me.

I take it you are at the 'wind up' Doc!

At least I'll give you the benefit of the doubt until you deny it, at which point most of that post becomes utterly laughable! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 20:19:20
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Sep 21 2008, 07:38 PM) [snapback]515765[/snapback]
the funny is that there is big trouble brewing down cappielow way and there has not been one post about it

what's the score with this Doc?
I take it that it's not just the dismal form your talking about? I know there were a few on here subtly suggesting there was discord but I ain't any the wiser, but to be honest I don't know much about the roles of the hierarchy of the club or finances etc. I just know by watching the team and the poor performances this season and the general atmosphere from the fans that there is something not right .

BIG DOC KNEW


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mortonjag 2008-09-21 20:33:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 08:25 PM) [snapback]515784[/snapback]
Good morning MJ,

You are asking me how the Trust works ? ! ?

I thought Bryan is your Trust man ?

I was thinking of a number of supporters each buying 150 pounds of shares.

(how was that minimum subscription decided ?)

Then, IF there was a motion of no confidence in the board at the AGM of the club, not the Trust, I expect that:

there would be a show of hands.

if the show of hands was in the affirmative, the Chairman could put it to a vote.

I expect that the Club has one vote per share.

So, the motion of no confidence would fail on the vote.


However, in many jurisdictions, the members could later call an extraordinary general meeting, if they were still unhappy.

etc

etc

etc

Minority shareholders do have rights.

Morton FC does not
belong to Sugar Rae.

Well, I kind of understand what you're saying Newt, but it's unlikely the Chairman would step aside unless he himself HAD to.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 20:37:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 08:31 PM) [snapback]515786[/snapback]
Is that a proven fact, bigdoc1874 ?

Big Doc seems to think he knows something nobody else knows, but he won't reveal it on the forum.

I think it must be a very, very serious matter indeed, if it has to be kept so secret that Big Doc tells us all but the trivial details-don't you? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 20:41:43
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Sep 21 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]515788[/snapback]
Is there an uncurious branch of Christianity? huh.gif

At the end of the day, he's in Glasgow, the West of Scotland even. It's not a cheesy pop song here, it's a song, rightly or wrongly, that is associated with Rangers fans. We all know the stories about people who'll storm of the dance floor at Weddings etc if it's played.

It irks a lot of people, he was a bit naive by having his congregation sing it, and ultimately, "REF IN SECTARIAN SHOCKER" sells papers.

What I find most interesting about the story is that the papers probably have people planted in McCurry's Church just to catch stories like this.

Correct.

McCurry fully expected his congregation to understand exactly what was being celebrated-even if the poor deluded souls WERE thanking Jesus with their very hearts and souls.

Caught with his pants down yet again, and dare I suggest-'HELL' mend him?

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mortonjag 2008-09-21 20:56:02
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Sep 21 2008, 08:31 PM) [snapback]515787[/snapback]
My take on the game:

Cuthbert had little to do but pick the ball out the net twice and pull off one spectacular save. However, every time a cross comes in and he's caught in no-mans-land I lose a little bit off the end of my life. I still think Stewart is the better option. Back 4 were fine except for the parts that mattered (when we conceded the goals!). Shimmin was the stand-out and if he continues in that good form I would expect a decent fee when he moves on. Harding too was a bit better with his distribution, particularly when he elected to play into feet instead of the long, high floating pass that we have been used to.

Midfield was a bit hit and miss despite probably winning the midfield battle. Both Finlayson and McAlister worked their socks off, but neither came close to anything like threatening their opponent. McGuffie was okay, but hindered a bit by Paartalu who brought very little to the game and in my opinion should be dropped to accomodate either Jenkins or Masterton, both of whom have more intelligence and skill on the ball. And his long throws have yet to yield a scoring opportunity, so that aspect of his game would not be missed.

Russell took his goal very well and along with Shimmin has been one of the few performers over the last few games to put in an effective performance. Wake was not at the races today and while one can blame poor service, Weatherson won more headers in the space of 15 minutes than Wake did in 90 minutes while also committing fewer fouls. I admire Wake's work ethic, but I would rather have Weatherson on from the start next week or at the very least make sure Wake has a partner up front because he does not have the positional awareness to play up front on his own, especially when little is created down either flank.

As for the subs, I thought Masterton got involved well and was unlucky not to score with his first touch while Jenkins likewise stung some poor Thistle defender's hands with a shot in the dying minutes.

Provided all players are fit (I assume the long-term absentees won't be), I would line up like this for ICT on Tuesday:
------------------------------------Cuthbert-------------------------------------
Walker---------------Shimmin----------------Harding-----------------Smith
-------------------McGuffie-------Masterton--------Jenkins-------------------
Russell---------------------------------------------------------------McAlister
------------------------------------Weatherson---------------------------------
If we plan to play the long ball all night then perhaps Wake would be the better option up front to hassle the ICT defence, but I feel Weatherson is better at bringing others into play than Wake.

You spoiled a generally good post by talking utter bollocks about the goalkeepers IMHO.

Stewart's been a bloody bomb scare, in every match I've witnessed him play--a big fellow who is terrified to come off his line for anything. I gather he did quite well in the Clyde game (which I missed) before making the crucial error which lost us VERY valuable points. Cuthbert has looked increasingly solid over his last few matches.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 21:04:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 08:55 PM) [snapback]515800[/snapback]
How many chairmen have stepped aside, not because of legalities, but because they have discovered that they and the supporters had "drifted apart" ?

Is it much fun if he is the only one in step ?

Which club was Alan Sugar chairman of before he became the largest shareholder in Spurs ?

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There are Chairmen and Chairmen Newt!

Nothing would please me more than to hear Mr Rae say he was stepping aside to hand over to an experienced Director of Football. He would still get much credit for that.

As things stand it looks like everything may be a bit 'up in the air' -I believe he could still sell out to AD- IF the price was right, and IF he'd relinquish control completely, but I guess the latter is the main stumbling block-that and the fact that AD's valuation of the Club is presumably dropping in line with the Club's performances.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 21:07:30
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 21 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]515802[/snapback]
Wake isn't lazy, he's just pish.
Fits in well at the club...

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mortonjag 2008-09-21 21:15:19
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Sep 21 2008, 08:48 PM) [snapback]515797[/snapback]
what it is you have done ? e-mailed companies house whoooo
i would doubt im the only one
no, but can you disprove it ? batter on
who says i wont reveal it? i never said that. i also never mentioned that i was the only one to know, as for being trivial, i would think not but only time will tell

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You should be on the stage Doc.

I'm going to challenge you to put up or shut up-and while I'm at it the whole Companies House business was simply a reaction to folk like yourself attempting to stop questions being asked, and there were FAR more folk than Mortonjag involved behind the scenes.

You KNEW that too I'd imagine! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 21:18:59
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 21 2008, 08:48 PM) [snapback]515798[/snapback]
Now that his chief economic advisor has been exposed as a 'spiv', I wonder if Eck will sack him?

Bawheid knew all along he was a spiv-just like himself.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 21:21:01
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 21 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]515808[/snapback]
Newcastle fans are brainless, idle dolts - why would we want to follow their example?

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mortonjag 2008-09-21 21:37:14
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 21 2008, 09:20 PM) [snapback]515813[/snapback]
Never get tired of this image

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED, though I understand you have a more delicate palate than young Puggs. How would you like some pickled brain pate?
mortonjag 2008-09-21 21:52:53
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 21 2008, 09:40 PM) [snapback]515827[/snapback]
MODERATORS!!!!!!!!!!!
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YUM YUM YUM-that was fantabascoobylubulous. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 07:30:07 indeed, you're RIGHT... HONOURABLE Sir



Labour finance spokesman Andy Kerr accused the First Minister of "hypocrisy and ignorance," adding: "This revelation severely damages Mr Salmond's own view of himself as a sophisticated economist with top- notch business connections.
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mortonjag 2008-09-22 07:53:41
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Sep 21 2008, 10:20 PM) [snapback]515847[/snapback]
Bomb scare?! Did you see Cuthbert at the Hibs game? Every time a cross came in he was all over the place. I think he is a decent keeper, I just think is awfully wee and doesn't command very well. His kicking is good and shot stopping as good as any keeper in the league. Perhaps Stewart would be no better over the piece, but other than the cross he missed against Clyde (there was a lot of fouling going on - see tontastic pictures) he has not put a foot wrong in my opinion.

Regardless, I'm not too bothered which keeper is in as I believe that the game is being lost elsewhere.


Stop looking at him next to big Erik!!!
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 21 2008, 10:57 PM) [snapback]515860[/snapback]
I am becoming more and more concerned about the lack of tactical awareness we have and, if it comes to needing a change, lets hope it comes in time to give someone new a chance to save us.

Indeed.

QUOTE(DongaTon @ Sep 22 2008, 12:54 AM) [snapback]515874[/snapback]
I agree there, I'll get shot down for this, but I thought the introduction of Weatherson changed things for us a bit - he was getting good knockdowns into good areas, no one running onto them.

Spoonsy may be a fat, unfit, disruptive, gambling, alcoholic Sassenach with a face like a coo's erse, but he can still play football! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Sep 22 2008, 01:17 AM) [snapback]515875[/snapback]
which is why i think we were idiots for letting Jon Newby go on loan. Only one who can see and make the move into goal scoring positions. Soon as he comes back along with a fit jenkins i think we will start to produce more goals and more wins. Until then its grinding results im afraid.


Idiots for MAKING him 'homesick' perhaps?
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Sep 22 2008, 03:56 AM) [snapback]515886[/snapback]
I feel so sorry for Wake and Russell, imo the two of them put in so much work that goes totally unrewarded.

CORRECTAMUNDO!
mortonjag 2008-09-22 08:06:40
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 21 2008, 09:31 PM) [snapback]515820[/snapback]
Medulla Oblongata

The medulla oblongata is the lower portion of the brainstem. It deals with autonomic functions, such as breathing and blood pressure, and is the only brain tissue possessed by 90% of posters on this forum? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 08:13:10
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 21 2008, 10:33 PM) [snapback]515850[/snapback]
Profit doesn't really come into it though, although it helps...

Really SPARROT!

Mind you I heartily congratulate you on one of your shortest ever pieces of plagiaristic pish! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 09:11:57 Many happy returns from the monkey and fing! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 09:13:56
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 22 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]515900[/snapback]
is that good, bad or indifferent ?

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Yes
mortonjag 2008-09-22 09:15:34
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 22 2008, 08:55 AM) [snapback]515901[/snapback]
Andy Kerr accusing anyone of hypocrisy and in particular ignorance is probably as good a definition of irony as you could get.

Strange how the press are going out of their way to try to disprove any notion of short selling being involved, even to the extent of claiming that "only" 2.75% of HBOS shares were lent out last week. That's actually quite a lot; but in any case it doesn't take any account of shares involved in "naked" shorting, the practice where shares are sold without even having borrowed shares at all. Quite how selling something that you don't have, not even on loan, can be anything other than fraud is beyond me. And trying to make some sort of issue out of this Mathewson story is rather clutching at straws - it's not Mathewson who has been short selling, it's a company he works for. I realise he's probably quite high up in the company, but I think this is pretty much a non-story.

Finally, I don't think any Labour politician is in a very good position to make any allegations about financial impropriety given their recent record.

Very true.
mortonjag 2008-09-22 09:19:33
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 22 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]515903[/snapback]
Maybe thats just you. rolleyes.gif
Happy meals dont tend to work, take them to a proper resturant, spend a bit of dosh on them............Oh, and get them pished after dinner ! wink.gif
Always works for me. biggrin.gif tongue.gif

mortonjag 2008-09-22 09:25:09
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 21 2008, 07:52 PM) [snapback]515771[/snapback]
im probably about 3ish. I'd never back down from someone wanting to fight with me, just dont get myself into that situation very often. I've got a mean right hook for a skinny b*****d aswell. laugh.gif

The reason no woman will let you anywhere near her knickers!
mortonjag 2008-09-22 09:28:16
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 22 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]515899[/snapback]
Probably been posted before but never mind
Enjoy

Beermonkey-38 years old! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Ever tried humpin' a real woman?
mortonjag 2008-09-22 10:04:02
QUOTE(tontastic @ Sep 22 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]515912[/snapback]
I love it when folk quote wikipedia.

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It 's much more fun making the contributions for other people to quote! smartass.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 10:17:24
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 22 2008, 10:08 AM) [snapback]515915[/snapback]
32 posts of complete and utter pish, 33 if you include this one. You're all mental.

I am Peter-will you be on the bench tomorrow?

QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 22 2008, 10:09 AM) [snapback]515916[/snapback]
correct.

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mortonjag 2008-09-22 10:20:11 ....about tomorrow's big game.

He thinks we will win and all will be forgiven till Dunfermline beat us on Saturday! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 11:12:03
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 22 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]515921[/snapback]
actually it's 25,483 and counting, posts of complete & utter pish.

One mans pish is another man's education! laugh.gif

QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 22 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]515927[/snapback]
as granny said, if you cannot say something nice, say nothing at all.

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Your Granny sound a really nice person Newt. Was she the one who was in the class below Mr Rae at the Academy?

QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 22 2008, 11:03 AM) [snapback]515933[/snapback]
Big Doc, I Know

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mortonjag 2008-09-22 11:14:36
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 22 2008, 10:41 AM) [snapback]515924[/snapback]
Yes, he's the Chairman. laugh.gif

.......and that's where the buck stops!
mortonjag 2008-09-22 11:19:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 22 2008, 10:24 AM) [snapback]515919[/snapback]
does the monkey believe in arithmetic series ?

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I cannot speak for the Monkey, Newt-he is his own man monkey, and already sees himself as Chairman of the Club!

QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 22 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]515926[/snapback]
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AAaaaaahhhhh, That's better.

It's been a long time coming.

Hasn't it just! rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 22 2008, 10:56 AM) [snapback]515930[/snapback]
For the benefit of beermonkey

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QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 22 2008, 10:56 AM) [snapback]515931[/snapback]
I think it is known as a retrospective adjustment.

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Pushing his hairy head further up his hairier arse?
mortonjag 2008-09-22 11:22:14
QUOTE(GMFC14 @ Sep 22 2008, 10:59 AM) [snapback]515932[/snapback]
HAHA I'm the fud, ok then.

At least you're not an OLD fud! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 11:27:32 I'll certainly be going.

Those games always attract the curiosity of the floating supporters, or HAVE DONE in the past, and I'd fully have expected a 4000 plus crowd a couple of seasons ago.

I'd imagine we may still break 3000-anything less and we'll be told to bring two friends to future matches.
mortonjag 2008-09-22 11:53:23
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Sep 22 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]515942[/snapback]
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Will Kermit be hopping over the turnstyle tomorrow night?
mortonjag 2008-09-22 12:42:02
QUOTE(big B @ Sep 22 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]515946[/snapback]
If things don't start improving how much longer will the fans stay patient?

How long will DDFR give him or will he be as loyal to him as he was to McInally?

Provided the fans ONLY turn on DI, I'd be surprised if Mr Rae fired his own choice at this stage.

IF, however, and it's a big 'IF', the fans turn volubly on the Rae empire, a scapegoat will be sacrificed forthwith!
mortonjag 2008-09-22 12:47:39
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 22 2008, 12:44 PM) [snapback]515959[/snapback]
I didn't!!! I said at the time he was a dreadful appointment. I stand by that even though we stayed up last season.

We're talking about two rookies, one of whom has been 'doing his best' for seven months.

The other's had seven years and we're going backwards!
mortonjag 2008-09-22 12:50:51
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 22 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]515948[/snapback]
Suggestion to the Mods...

For clarity, why not just rename the website 'mortonjag.org' and call this forum 'General Mortonjag Chatter'?

Then maybe somebody else could open a messageboard where football is discussed.

Just a thought like.

Wrong forum Noddy.

I'm surprised Big Ears hasn't directed you to the 'Suggestion Box'! There you could propose a forum entitled 'Noddy's Nonsense' where all the other children could join you in boundless infantile jibes.
mortonjag 2008-09-22 12:59:07
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 22 2008, 12:23 PM) [snapback]515950[/snapback]
Lies, all lies, Eck, the great helmsman, would not smooch about with running dog capitalist plutocrats.

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Moira Celeste?
mortonjag 2008-09-22 13:39:29
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 22 2008, 01:34 PM) [snapback]515982[/snapback]
we will not create a forum for one man.

Not even for a wee Monkey?
mortonjag 2008-09-22 13:42:57
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 22 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]515981[/snapback]
I think MortonJag needs this forum like an alcoholic needs his drink. Addiction comes in all forms..

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Addiction indeed comes in many forms!

It appears to Mortonjag that certain posters are addicted to Mortonjag.

Some, it would appear, attempt unsuccessfully to self medicate with aversion therapy. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 13:47:41
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 22 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]515988[/snapback]
That's a pity, because it's become a bit of a chore having to wade through all his spam on here and on the General Morton Chatter Board, and I don't think I'm alone in thinking that.

I appreciate however that many others hang on his every word, so I thought a dedicated board may have been the best compromise solution all round.

It was just an idea.


It has clearly got you VERY excited! Bryan is referring to the Huff Button by the way-it's been here for ages but may just have arrived in Toyland! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 13:55:32
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 22 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]516002[/snapback]
Great Idea

Oh Yes !
Or just ban him & newton (a right pair of boring b*****ds), so we can talk football again.

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mortonjag 2008-09-22 13:59:16
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 22 2008, 01:18 PM) [snapback]515973[/snapback]
Awww. A pair of attention seekers laugh.gif Any more??

Apologies in advance to Tontastic for the thread now being switched to general nonsense at Noddy's behest, but I don't see the Monkey anywhere. ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 14:06:32
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 22 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]515989[/snapback]
I wont be there...sorry Jag but I wont be coming on to score the winner with 10 minutes to go until Saturday smile.gif

I'm disappointed young man. I could suggest somebody else but I don't want the thread moved to general nonsense at the command of some fictional children's hero.


mortonjag 2008-09-22 14:13:42
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Sep 22 2008, 02:06 PM) [snapback]516015[/snapback]
He was on loan at Dunfermline last season, would be an idea to ask on one of their forums to see how he was. I have a feeling he was pretty poor though. He is a left midfielder though, which would be nice.

Also quoted as being equally good in attack. IF we have somebody who can use the left wing properly that will immediately increase our options for supplying the strikers.
mortonjag 2008-09-22 14:24:12
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 22 2008, 01:49 PM) [snapback]516000[/snapback]
Admitting you have a problem is the 1st step down the recovery process sir.

Really! That's utterly fascinating, I'm sure you must be so proud of your success.

I'm actually a bit of an expert on addictive illness. It's very brave of you to bare your personal details to the inhabitants of Toytown! smile.gif



mortonjag 2008-09-22 14:29:59
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 22 2008, 02:28 PM) [snapback]516028[/snapback]
He's away on his hols, but I'll pass on your regards.

TY smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 14:33:55
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 21 2008, 11:11 PM) [snapback]515867[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDSeen from the Chairman's rear view mirror?
mortonjag 2008-09-22 14:38:10
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 22 2008, 02:32 PM) [snapback]516033[/snapback]
Exactly, why have two?

Three Cawstick, and the inhabitants of Toytown can't bleat to Uncle Bryan on the Jessie Boys' forum!
mortonjag 2008-09-22 14:43:13
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 22 2008, 02:40 PM) [snapback]516039[/snapback]
youd think it was my website the way folk go on rolleyes.gif

You'd think Noddy was your boss the way he goes on! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 15:06:47
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 22 2008, 02:56 PM) [snapback]516046[/snapback]
Just remind us all MJ, you are the guy who complained to the mods about multiple threads on the same subject being merged and even started a thread on the subject, aren't you?

If I'm not mistaken Noddy, my little Toytown friend, Barbie and Ghostie were actually much more aggrieved than Mortonjag, who commented correctly that his post had been merged and not deleted.

If you have any complaints about their perception of the Moderation of those multiple threads why don't you speak to them.

Oh- and I did comment some time later that I believed that the volume of individual protest was a legitimate demonstration of feeling which should not , in my opinion, have been 'muffled' by somebody who saw fit to tell them to 'dry their eyes'!

As somebody who appears to be heavily into individual protests I'm sure you'll agree with that view! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 15:09:06
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 22 2008, 02:57 PM) [snapback]516047[/snapback]
i have no boss on here bar edinton rolleyes.gif

I said that Noddy was attempting to boss you. He REALLY is a 'little bossy boots' if you ask me. Big Ears seems much more laid back!
mortonjag 2008-09-22 15:36:38
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 22 2008, 03:33 PM) [snapback]516055[/snapback]
Crowd will be 2500. Official crowd will be 2240!!

we will win this one 2-1 in extra time. C'mon Leafy with two stunners.

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Who he?
mortonjag 2008-09-22 16:20:55
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 22 2008, 03:52 PM) [snapback]516071[/snapback]
That's a very good idea. They already have a knife thrower, several clowns, and a performing monkey or two. Shouldn't be hard to put that together for a decent show laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-22 16:36:25 HA HA HA-Mortonjag answered honestly and is way down in the bottom left hand corner, so get that roon yes all!
mortonjag 2008-09-22 16:38:36
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 22 2008, 03:52 PM) [snapback]516072[/snapback]
Grind? I was thinking more 7 seconds of shame

A quick keech is nowt to be ashamed of!
mortonjag 2008-09-22 17:26:25
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 22 2008, 05:22 PM) [snapback]516114[/snapback]
I'm to the left and libertarian.

5 boxes to the left and 3 down to be precise.

You could nearly superimpose me over Ghandi. That explains the liking for Vindaloo and my rounded tolerance for call centres.

Somebody pass me those sandals.

TonInDublin

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Compared to the Jag you're a rampant right wing imperialist! If it hadn't been for that question about spanking little pink botties I'd have fallen off the lower left corner!

Mind you if I'd taken the same test twenty years ago it would not have been so.
mortonjag 2008-09-22 17:32:32
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 22 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]516117[/snapback]
....... wonder if there's one for a moral compass.

Now that would be interesting to see some on here with that one !
TonInDublin

It's bad enough expecting folk to be utterly honest about politics TiD!!!!!!!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 19:47:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 22 2008, 07:13 PM) [snapback]516146[/snapback]
Contracts-for-difference markets have been thrown into confusion by the Australian market regulator's decision to ban short selling.

Several CFD providers acted quickly yesterday, stopping clients from taking short positions in Australian shares, while still permitting such positions on commodities, currencies and indices.

The complex products are aimed at retail investors, who agree to exchange the difference in the price of a security between the time a contract is opened and the time it is closed.

The Australian Securities Exchange, which also runs a CFD platform, has instructed brokers to seek guidance from the Australian Securities and Investments Commission.

An ASX spokesman, Matthew Gibbs, said it was unclear whether clients could take short positions in ASX-traded CFDs. There are about 50 equity CFDs and 15 CFDs on leading world indices, currencies and gold.

Yesterday just over 60,000 ASX CFD contracts traded, about one-third of the daily average.

On Sunday the commission banned short selling for all Australian shares, with a few exceptions, preventing investors from profiting when a stock's price falls.

A commission spokeswoman said the prohibition did not apply to CFDs, because they were derivatives.

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I doubt if the board's weans will have much interest in that Newt. Pop choons, computer games, shagging, booze, and grub seem to be the only things on which they opine with any authority.

I was thinking we could maybe start a new forum for the weans-lets face it-they could still have full read and write access to all the other forums but they could be encouraged to stick to their own, and leave those with a modicum of intelligence and maturity to discuss more weighty matters.

I thought that perhaps it could be headed the Noddy Numbskull Forum in honour of nothing of any great interest or substance. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 20:19:32
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 22 2008, 08:10 PM) [snapback]516184[/snapback]
Pretty much as I thought, a left of centre (-2.38) libertarian (-3.23)

Self deception on a grand scale Noddy.
mortonjag 2008-09-22 20:28:23
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 22 2008, 08:16 PM) [snapback]516189[/snapback]
Oh dear...........another non-story trying to show the SNP and Salmond in a bad light. Then they go and spoil it all by quoting Andy Kerr laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

No need to quote anybody Spurtle

Below is a picture of a political buffoon
mortonjag 2008-09-22 20:33:00
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 22 2008, 08:26 PM) [snapback]516203[/snapback]
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Got you love your keen sense of irony MJ. laugh.gif

Anyway, I answered the questions honestly and that's what it gave me so don't blame me for any inaccuracies in the result, perceived or otherwise. tongue.gif

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Who are you trying to kid Noddy-you're as right wing as your wee blue shorts.

Capitalist supreme with three hooses and renting out his holiday villa-and able to run a motor like this
mortonjag 2008-09-22 20:39:14
QUOTE(Lost in Space @ Sep 22 2008, 07:49 PM) [snapback]516171[/snapback]
I don't agree with your midfield selection, as I strongly beleive that McGuffie should never pull on a Morton shirt ever again. He came to us with a decent reputation and is not pulling his weight this season, not by a very long distance. His work rate, positioning, tackling and general demeanour on the park is woeful. He looks about 95% fit at best.

Partaluu is dire. He has a total lack of awareness of what he should be doing out there, a big lad whose timing for headers is shocking. He's nowhere near good enough to get us out of this.

Not in your selection, but one of the worst centre halves I've ever seen at Morton, Harding. How much more of a liability can this guy be? Often out of position, with diabolical distribution, and prone to at least one catastrophic error in just about every single game. He cannot be selected any longer.

Finlayson, what's happened to him? Always liked him, a hard worker, and some great pace. His crossing of the ball isn't brilliant, but he CAN skin a left back and create danger. However, he has stopped doing it recently. He came on aganst QoS last week, got the ball at his feet an number of times, and stopped! Has Irons told him to stop trying to beat the man? Somethings amiss there.

As for McAllister, there no point in him sitting on the halfway line, and then expecting him to go on good runs. He needs to be fed the ball about 30 yards from the goal line with one man to beat. I blame the midfield failures for his lack of form recently.

I said this last week, and I stand by it, we're already relegated. Hate to say it, but it's true. We are playing like a releageted team already.

Take it we can't count on you tomorrow night then!
mortonjag 2008-09-22 20:41:08
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 22 2008, 08:05 PM) [snapback]516177[/snapback]
One of the brothers from down under. JM laugh.gif

Good God-JM's been at the dirty threesomes again!
mortonjag 2008-09-22 20:49:10
QUOTE(axeman @ Sep 22 2008, 08:22 PM) [snapback]516200[/snapback]
Looking at things as they stand at the moment & with the squad we currently have the best option, in my opinion, is to go back to the one system that proved successful in the league for Davie Irons & that is 3-5-2.

I feel that the current 4-5-1, or whichever variation we are playing, basically reeks of fear. We are saying to our opponents that we are scared of them, more scared of what they can do to us than confident in what we can do to them. I hate seeing Morton playing stuff like this as it totally goes against the style & confidence I was brought up on. In many ways it reminds me of the season round about 1989 when we went winless for a while at the start of the season & then proceeded to draw a large amount of our remaining games. Not pretty to watch.

Back to the 3-5-2 though & it really becomes a question of personnel. Who plays where, or more accurately who is most comfortable & will be most successful in which position.

There are of course many questions regarding this for instance what are the roles of Paartalu & Masterton ? Are they in the team for their set pieces or do they offer more than that ?

Firstly in Paartalu's case he has become so one-dimensional with his long throws, mostly aimed at Harding for a flick-on. Of course you can only get away with this for so long because surprisingly other teams scout us as well & see us trying the same routine ad nauseum. A bit of variation is most definitely needed there. I would however stick with him in the 3-5-2 as the defensive midfielder allowing the other 2 centre mids to drive on. The role he played when he joined us.

Masterton still has to show more than just free kicks, this isn't American Football after all, we can't just shuttle him on & off for those. Whether his form has been affected by the recent bereavement he suffered or he has just not played well, he is going to have to do far more to warrant a place every week.

The other options for midfield are McGuffie, Jenkins & Weatherson. I would have included The Dominator in there as well, as a replacement defensive midfielder but feel with 3 at the back we will definitely need his qualities there.

Of the three above stated McGuffie has been providing some much needed, mostly Cup though, goals. Jenkins isn't fully fit & there is the enigma that is Peter. If Jenkins was fully fit I've no doubt he would start every week, but we are waiting in hope for that happening. Weatherson I feel could do a job in there as one of the more advanced centre mids, but if I were to choose , fitness allowing it would be McGuffie & Jenkins.

Wing backs would be the routine again & that gives us Finlayson & McAllister. Neither are wingers, nor full backs, but they tick the boxes for having good engines which allow them to get up & down the park. The system also enables Finlayson to be more involved as he tends to be even more indecisive than usual when on the right of a four, constantly turning back with the ball at his feet, or determined to get rid of the ball as soon as possible.

Defensively I would stick with Shimmin & Harding, with the other place currently being a toss-up between Smith & Walker. Personally I think Smith will develop into a more effective defender, so would go with him. Walker can be very injury prone as well, which we seem to have a lot of with Greacen.McGregor & McManus all currently or recently having been out injured.

Keeper I would stick with Cuthbert. Upfront Beany & Wakey.

The basis I think for this system is that we have the players to play it & play it well. It's more open defensively but it will create more chance & make us more dangerous & a bigger threat in front of goal is an absolute necessity in our position.

What I dislike about the modern game is the blind reliance on coaching methods & manuals delivered by the likes of Andy Roxburgh & his like. Far too many times you see 2 managers/coaches all from the same coaching classes, all with the same diplomas having their teams play like a chess match. If he does this I'll counter with that kind of thing. This is where too often we fall down, there is no ingenuity or individualism from the coaches. No spark of genius or a bit of maverick ability that made the game what it is.

Davie Irons if you're reading this go out & be bold, be courageous, let the other team fear us rather than us quivering at the thought of them. If we're going to battle our way out of this or even if we don't manage that then at least send out a team with a bit of guile as that will build confidence both within your team & within the support.

Put the pride back in this club before it's too late.

That Sir, is one of the most sensible things I've seen posted on this forum for ages.

It sickens me every week on here to see our posters with their formations and battle plans, arguing with each other like weans over a rattle.

JEEEEEEEEEEZUZ-how can anybody predict with accuracy the weather conditions, let alone the opposition selection and tactics?

Football's about scoring goals-that's the object of the game and anybody who disagrees is brain damaged! Attack is the best means of defence.

Bring back Hal Stewart! He knew more about selling fags for the Co. than bloody coaching, yet his commonsense approach gave us the most exciting football seen at Scapa in the last 50 years.
mortonjag 2008-09-22 20:53:42
QUOTE(forza ton @ Sep 22 2008, 08:21 PM) [snapback]516196[/snapback]
looks like someone's let aff a banger in her fanny

I thought she was in a bath-I didn't play the children's game mind you.
mortonjag 2008-09-22 20:59:38
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 22 2008, 08:14 PM) [snapback]516186[/snapback]
Economic Left/Right: -7.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.49

Don't worry about it son-you're still not old enough to vote, let alone form experience based opinions like the grown ups.

If my proposal for the new weans' forum kicks off you'll undoubtedly be its Mortonjag. biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 21:05:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 22 2008, 08:52 PM) [snapback]516219[/snapback]
Gidday MJ,

The thread was started by Alibi.

And I posted the last entry mainly for him.

Do you know if he still intends to stand for the Scottish Parliament ?

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P.S. you have an email as my PM is broken

TY!


I had no idea that Sir Alistair had aspirations in that direction.

Frankly I'd be bitterly, bitterly disappointed if he joined forces with dough balls like Salmond Swinney, Sturgeon etc.

Having said that he could maybe get us planning consent to sell Scapa to a Superstore, just like Bendy did for the midden!
mortonjag 2008-09-22 21:10:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 22 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]516235[/snapback]
I'll never be as sad and decrepit as you are.

HAHA sonny boy-the common misperception of the Jag. Happy, fit, agile, sexually very active, talented in music and the arts-umpteen degrees and diplomas, and mistaken by most folk for forty!

Those are just a few I mentioned BTW! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 21:12:23
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 22 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]516250[/snapback]
I think the three years of investment I done would take quite a while to describe on a very basic forum smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-22 21:15:04
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 22 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]516234[/snapback]
Is that you Col, with the bunnet, the tache and the disapproving look? biggrin.gif

Yip-and the hands in pockets to hide the mangled hands of the ex prize fighter.
mortonjag 2008-09-22 21:17:41
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 22 2008, 09:15 PM) [snapback]516261[/snapback]
Yet your infantile mind possesses little but thoughts of toy monkeys and a curious, borderline sexual, fixation with Alistair Donald.
Sad really.
I care little for what you have or have not acheived in the past - be sure that if you were a fraction of the person you claim to be I'll be studying you in the History lectures. Somehow I doubt that as you're a complete irrelevance despite your ever increasing delusions of grandeur.

PFFT-only failures study history. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 21:25:16
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 22 2008, 09:12 PM) [snapback]516256[/snapback]
If by 'plagiaristic pish' you mean well-established basic financial theory, a subject in which by way of Accounting I have a 'basic' qualification in, then yes of course.
You're a condescending smug prat - more's the pity for those who grow old so disgracefully.

I MEANT plagiaristic pish sonny boy, and one of your 'ins' is redundant!

You may well believe I'm a condescending smug prat. Perhaps you should ask yourself why you-far and above any of your peers on this forum -are the prime target.

You are a jumped up, immature brat, who is only bright enough to be a danger to himself.

I better add a wee smiley-that's what one is meant to do when one is merely jousting-why don't you do the same?

Here-I'll give you two... wub.gif wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-23 07:33:44
QUOTE(dazed @ Sep 23 2008, 06:52 AM) [snapback]516410[/snapback]
I would miss momkey and fing if he were to be banned or moved , also his world renowned charm ,wit and wisdom would be sorely missed! biggrin.gif

I've always perceived you as well balanced, tolerant, perceptive, and able to take a joke.

The Mods will see this thread for what it is-the creation of a very small and narrow minded man.

The 'poll' for what it's worth has come out pretty even in any case! dry.gif

mortonjag 2008-09-23 07:44:41
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 22 2008, 09:58 PM) [snapback]516298[/snapback]
The irony is that the paragraph you selected appeared in the middle of a post that was all about disecting the team's tactics, formation and system.

I agree with axeman's points about the 4-5-1 formation, I hate it. 'reeks of fear' sums it up brilliantly. One of the worst things to happen to football was Greece winning Euro 2004 playing this system because it showed that it was possible to win something with a limited team as long as you got everyone behind the ball, stifled the opposition and hit on the counter. After that tournament everyone starting trying it. I don't think I've ever been so annoyed and almost ashamed by a Morton team as when we defended with everyone behind the ball and one up front at home to Queen Of The South.

One ofthe most depressing things I've ever read footballwise was this Guardian article. In it former Brazil coach Carlos Alberto Parreira predicts the coming of the 4-6-0 formation. Andy Roxburgh is quoted on how he thinks it would work. sad.gif

You clearly misunderstood me.

My comments were made with reference to the highlighted part of Axeman's post, which-for me-says it all.
mortonjag 2008-09-23 07:53:45
QUOTE(ton fan @ Sep 23 2008, 12:01 AM) [snapback]516381[/snapback]
will no doubt get slaughtered for this but here goes,

when reading through threads have noticed quite a few people saying things like-

What exactly IS going on is the question we would all like answers to, my opinion has been formed by what I regard as very reliable individuals informing me, but I would not post this publicly until I am 100% certain of the accuracy and only when they allow me to, but I do not doubt what i have been told.

Cappielow is not a happy ship, and this is not down to the likes of Airdrie away, this is more deep rooted and the silence that eminates from our club is ridiculous at times. Clarity is required as the grumblings of the fans are growing.

DDF cannot ask us as fans to bring along more people to games until he clearly maps out our future and imo the share issue is not relevant at this time. But i will not hold my breath. If he does come out publicly it will have more spin than tanning a bottle of vod in one go would have.

There are still some on here who will not have Our Lord DDF's name taken in vain, we are ENTITLED to ask these questions and the club should have the curteousy to provide CLEAR answers to them.

What happened on Sunday at Cappielow would be one of my first questions.
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Gidday Barbarossa,

I have received 2 emails this week from Ton supporters, apart from MJ.

I don't even think they could identify MJ in a police line up.

However, each email states that Sunday was NOT good.

And that DI's quotes in the Evening Times appear to be just an attempt to paper over the cracks.
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Why Davie because you said so.
public board, entirely up to the individual what and how much they may want to divulge. I have been busy and I have now had 3 seperate people today confirming the same story by phone to me and none of them are connected with one another. Their oonly connection is with their love of Morton and wanting that future to be assured.

I'm sure you will know soon enough
there are more posts like this but i think thats enough to highlight my piont,

i am not trying to say the people who have been told these things are trying to make it out like i know something you dont kind of thing, but if there are serious problems at cappielow and if the sh!ts going to hit the fan sooner or later,

would it not be better to try and do something about it now?, rather than wait till it happens and say to yourself i knew that was going to happen, what can be done to fix it?, we have been down that road before and its not something i want to see happen to morton again,

one of the posts highlighted above ends by saying I'm sure you will know soon enough,

lets just hope soon enough is not to late

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mortonjag 2008-09-23 08:09:57 There are many, many reasons why only a victory tonight will guarantee Mr Rae a 'stay of execution'.

He'll stay in physical terms of course-I'm talking figuratively- but his credibility is at an all time low and in danger of disappearing completely.

The whispers of discontent have evolved to free and open debate. Questions which were fiercely opposed in the past are now asked with impunity several times a day.

It's no longer 'disrespectful' to criticise the Chairman 'because he saved us'.

There is a strong undercurrent of discontent. It will take very little for that to become an unstemmed deluge.

There is no way back for the Raes-the fans will not accept any more excuses-we've had quite enough. We either have to start achieving something or it's time to go Dougie.

I hope for you, and for all true Ton fans that we prevail tonight.



mortonjag 2008-09-23 08:24:30
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 23 2008, 08:17 AM) [snapback]516428[/snapback]
This night isn't make or break night for the chairman, this night means absolutely nothing....it's a bonus. I would like us to win tonight but i really couldnt care less if we do and our chairman won't be judged on us being knocked out a cup by a much better team than us.

The league is all that matters.

I was attempting to throw the Chairman a much needed lifeline. If the league is indeed all that matters, it's already TTGD!
mortonjag 2008-09-23 08:30:57
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 22 2008, 09:27 PM) [snapback]516277[/snapback]
I'm not going to take lessons on intelligence from a poster who can't even use a space bar.

You're gunning for a good pink botty session, and I refuse to give you what you so much want.
mortonjag 2008-09-23 08:39:43
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 22 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]516267[/snapback]
Failed the dash test yet again - I assume you failed either English or IT. laugh.gif

'Failed either English or IT'. Is that schoolchild gobbledegook? I failed several Art exams at school-I'm not good at drawing.

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 22 2008, 09:20 PM) [snapback]516269[/snapback]
That Zoe lassie who posts fails the dash test too...strange that!

Mind your political correctness young man. That Zoe lassie is in fact a 'young woman' and appears somewhat brighter than your good self. Didn't she say she's at a proper university or something to that effect? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-23 08:48:51
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Sep 23 2008, 08:25 AM) [snapback]516432[/snapback]
Beat that established SPL team or you're FINISHED Dougie! mad.gif

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Those may indeed prove to be prophetic words. I didn't feel the need to put it so harshly.
mortonjag 2008-09-23 09:01:25
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 23 2008, 08:46 AM) [snapback]516442[/snapback]
Naw borrow an assault rifle from cooncilor Kalashnikov? unsure.gif

I'd imagine 'buy' would be more appropriate.
mortonjag 2008-09-23 09:07:50
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 23 2008, 08:32 AM) [snapback]516437[/snapback]
Since most of what is quoted is my own words I suppose I should try and answer.

Far from it being an attitude of "I told you so", more so as a lifelong ton fan I am worried about the direction the club is heading and on the face of some very credible information that was a tad worrying to me, I posted my worries and maybe I should not have.

In future I will keep any information to myself and those who I personally know. A public forum seems not to be the place to post such things.
Would it be best if I just said all is rosy at Cappielow?

btw, I am not having a go at you ton fan.

I doubt if there's very much need to hold things back now. The tide has clearly turned. I strongly suspect our concerns will be aired much more publicly in the near future.
mortonjag 2008-09-23 09:45:45
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 23 2008, 09:11 AM) [snapback]516465[/snapback]
Absolute rubbish to say that Mr Rae's future as chairman depends on tonight's result. Get off his back, MJ. Your constant moaning about Mr Rae is becoming extremely boring. If you have the money, you buy the club. Put up or shut up.

Away an' bile yer heid.

I warned you about Mileson two seasons in advance, and you laughed me to scorn.

I warned about McInally two seasons in advance and was laughed to scorn.

I've been warning about Rae for over three seasons, and when the chickens are coming home to roost, there are still fools who can't see reality when it's staring them right between the eyes!

Oh-and stop putting spin on my posts please!

Didn't you READ what I wrote?

Have another try.


He'll stay in physical terms of course-I'm talking figuratively- but his credibility is at an all time low and in danger of disappearing completely.
mortonjag 2008-09-23 10:00:33
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 23 2008, 09:23 AM) [snapback]516472[/snapback]
And under this suggestion you'd still be free to do so. smile.gif



QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 23 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]516474[/snapback]
Wow, wow, wow - hang on - yet another one who obviously obviously didn't read or understand the suggestion.

Under this suggestion Mortonjag would NOT be banned and you would NOT miss his 'charm, wit and wisdom'. smile.gif



QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 23 2008, 09:27 AM) [snapback]516478[/snapback]
Under this suggestion Mortonjag would stil be able to make you laugh. smile.gif



So good that 'three hooses' said it thrice! laugh.gif

I see you're no longer the little chappie in pale blue shorts and a toorie bunnet.

Did you tire of his inanely self indulgent puerile bleatings to the Mods?
mortonjag 2008-09-23 10:11:06
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 23 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]516492[/snapback]
If it is time for the Chairman to go then I don't think it's because we're going to lose a game in which we are underdogs to an SPL side. Rather it will be the regressive signing policy, lack of a credible youth system, etc. etc.

I agree!

It's funny how apparently intelligent posters (forget Big Doc) have chosen to take from my posting exactly what suits them. That of course is the norm!

All I've done is highlight the indisputable fact that Mr Rae's credibility hangs perilously in the balance.

I've stated that a win tonight will, in those terms, grant a reprieve.

I'm also thinking of the financial situation. I DO believe that tonight's game with the opportunity to progress to a Partick or Queens cup scenario of last season's dimensions is MONSTROUS for the Chairman.

mortonjag 2008-09-23 11:43:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 23 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]516513[/snapback]
That's some bait you have on your giant hook today good Doctor.

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QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 23 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]516521[/snapback]
What everyone seems to forget is that football clubs are (generally) not democracies. You wouldn't dream of calling for change at the top of Golden Casket. Fans (like Newcastle recently) who chant 'sack the board' are somewhat missing the point. Rae will only leave once he gets an offer he can't refuse and everyone has their price.


Correct Peter, and that day is probably being hastened by our dismal performances and a dropping asking price!
QUOTE(centralTON @ Sep 23 2008, 11:09 AM) [snapback]516535[/snapback]
Spot on Jamie, we'd all like a wee run in this cup, or the Scottish cup, but, league survival is paramount. The way things are right now I'd settle for 9th spot, and take our chances in the play-offs.

To the fans-YES!

QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Sep 23 2008, 11:24 AM) [snapback]516537[/snapback]
in my opinion tonight has no impact on our chairmans future, as its already too late for him. a decent result in the cup will not be enough to save him. his credibility in my eyes is zero and its time for someone else to step in and take over (NOT his son might i add). I have had enough and I for one will not be back at Cappielow until he is out.

Slate me if you want but thats how i feel

I fail to see why anybody should slate you for a reasoned and in my opinion, reasonable viewpoint.
mortonjag 2008-09-23 11:56:03
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 23 2008, 09:57 AM) [snapback]516493[/snapback]
Call me a cynic....a fitba' ref singing a song associated with an OF club? I might have given him the benefit of the doubt until the big red foam hands appear! Knob! dry.gif

or as the wee Sunday School teacher put it-the big red K**B appeared and he foamed.
mortonjag 2008-09-23 12:04:29
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 23 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]516487[/snapback]
Yes you do.

Need to stop these barrack room attempts at conning people with less than half a brain into more Braveheart rhetoric Geordie.

You know the score, most sensible people know the score - play nice eh ?

TonInDublin

That will be a first! rip.gif

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 23 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]516511[/snapback]
This really annoys me. No matter how skint you are you can access the internet in you local library. The government has announced today that they're going to give people under 26 free theatre tickets and we had the free heroin suggestion a few weeks ago. I like fillet steak and red wine, can I have some free stuff too or do I have to buy my own and pay for these other mad schemes through my taxes? Ridiculous. Give a man a fish and you'll feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and you'll feed him forever.

True Peter, but what about the ineducable?
mortonjag 2008-09-23 12:09:44
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Sep 22 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]516346[/snapback]
So did I. Hillend, he live up the stilts on Belville Street, ginger hair.

Woman at work is called Sue King, but I can't admit to knowing whether she is any good at it!!!

Customer used to call in with the name, Doda Jobe, pbut pronounced it Dodda Jobbie.

Possibly related to Sue K Dick.
mortonjag 2008-09-23 12:13:36
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 23 2008, 10:42 AM) [snapback]516516[/snapback]
Join in the harmless banter. The more the merrier. wink.gif

OK my Dear-here's a piece of harmless banter that got Morton jagged banned by the Mod Superior, and it may come as a huge disappointment...


Lorry man is a POUFFE!
mortonjag 2008-09-23 12:26:53
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 23 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]516556[/snapback]
WTF has Mileson got to do with this? Absolutely nothing. Incidentally, I don't regard the money as history because I think we may well get paid eventually out of Mileson's pocket, or so the liquidator (formerly administrator) tells us. There are legal processes going on at the moment to implement that.

I'm not opining about whether or not Mr Rae is the best chairman we could have - I'm just saying that you appear to have a vendetta against him.

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Which is EXACTLY what you said to me ad nauseam when I slated Mileson while you supported him to the hilt. You repeatedly accused me of 'jealousy'!!! I even remember you arguing vigorously about all the 'knock on benefits' for the community, which, if I recall, included your son. laugh.gif

Why don't you accept once and for all Alibi, that Mortonjag doesn't do 'vendettas'. I call it as I see it, and I've refused to be muffled.

Rae's personality has been dragging the Club downwards for long and weary. In terms of the future of OUR club, he's finally being identified by the majority as 'public enemy number one', and you accuse me of 'having a vendetta'!!

Some may be thinking that like many posters who are too dim to know any better, YOU have a vendetta against Mortonjag! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-23 12:37:15
QUOTE(dazed @ Sep 23 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]516563[/snapback]
Fair enough I obviously got the wrong end of the stick although I thought this thread was for a bit of fun and treated it as such smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-23 12:40:30
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 23 2008, 12:22 PM) [snapback]516572[/snapback]
Well, it's a fact so it's hardly a pile of s***e.
I think sorting out tax bands and stopping energy companies from rampant profiteering would be a far better way of solving problems for the low paid rather than creating and nurturing the dependency culture.
Mouse Eat Fish is a great idea. laugh.gif

Mouse eat shark?
mortonjag 2008-09-23 12:44:45
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 22 2008, 11:29 PM) [snapback]516371[/snapback]
Millions went missing from Buchanans ph34r.gif



QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 23 2008, 12:24 PM) [snapback]516573[/snapback]
It says on Inverclyde Now that a helicopter was used last night in a search for a missing patient from Inverclyde Royal. I hope it wasn't Abdul "Bertie" Basset. ph34r.gif

Millions AND liquorice allsorts-that's quite a heist!
mortonjag 2008-09-23 12:50:20 In the unlikely event of a defeat, could you play us out with that old Connie Francis favourite of our beloved Chairman-'Who's sorry now?'
mortonjag 2008-09-23 12:53:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 23 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]516580[/snapback]
Beermonkey - a bloke with his priorities in the right place.

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Baws in a mincer?
mortonjag 2008-09-23 13:57:35
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 23 2008, 01:48 PM) [snapback]516611[/snapback]
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Indeed Weegie-and guess who took it off topic in the first place-Holier than thou Beermonkey. rolleyes.gif

I post serious threads which are repeatedly hi-jacked, and just have to accept that that's how it goes.

Precious little Geordie boy has a bee in his bunnet-he tries to bully the Mods into accepting his utterly hare brained idea, and goes in a big cream puff when he's effectively told to stick it where the sun don't shine.

I have this suspicion that he was once refused entry to the polis for some reason and has had it in for all and sundry ever since!

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mortonjag 2008-09-23 14:10:46
QUOTE(EBu @ Sep 23 2008, 01:51 PM) [snapback]516614[/snapback]
In defence of Cuthbert I dont think its his choice to do the big punt up the park. From where I sit I can see and hear DI and DC and every time, and I mean every time there is a kick out, free kick or throw in they are out telling the player where to put it.

On the occasion that the player does the "wrong" thing he gets a major kick up the you know what.

I'm starting to wonder if DI is too strict in the roles he sets the players and they are too scared to show any imagination that may take them out of their designated roles.

I'm certain there's much in that, and it's a sure sign of an inexperienced Managerial team IMO.
mortonjag 2008-09-23 14:18:01
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Sep 23 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]516621[/snapback]
he does have a point though.... the fact that scotland is potentailly missing out on millions of pounds of our OWN money to that shower of twtas down the road is something that should be serious to us all..... I am striggling to comprehend how gordon brown is getting away with what he is... if what the uk govt is doing now to Scotland doesnt convince all Scots that the time is right for independence,then nothing will.. roll on the revolution...

The point is certainly worthy of discussion. I won't get involved because I'm unconvinced by the political spin from both sides.

TiD correctly questioned the rabble rousing techniques regularly employed by 'trois maisons'!
mortonjag 2008-09-23 14:27:00
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 23 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]516608[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-09-23 14:40:21
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 23 2008, 02:24 PM) [snapback]516639[/snapback]
Not taking the cream puff at all MJ, far from it.

The fact is though that you're putting a lot of people off from participating on here. That obviously don't bother you in the slightest. Quite the opposite in fact, you seem to revel in it, and that's fair enough.

But I was just trying to find a solution that satisfied everyone, that's all. If the good people of the greenockmorton.org community don't agree with that and think everything's just honkey-dorey the way they are just now, then so be it. At least I tried. smile.gif

And at the end of the day, it's only a messgeboard, not life itself.

Evidence please!

So far as I've been able to determine, every time I post there seems to be a fairly active response.

I'd hate anybody to be put off, contrary to your suggestion that it doesn't bother me.

There will always be folk who don't feel at home in certain environments. In my experience the remedy is in their own hands.

What do you think of the repeated and recently more vicious attacks on certain posters by others who have adopted aliases purely to attack individuals?

Surely THAT's the sort of behaviour that's specifically designed to put genuine posters off.
mortonjag 2008-09-23 14:46:48 Shimmin's wimmin

Dom's poms

Walker's locker

Jenkins 'ere

Masty's pasties

mortonjag 2008-09-23 15:02:28
QUOTE(centralTON @ Sep 23 2008, 02:44 PM) [snapback]516652[/snapback]
MJ, you and I have discussed this topic before, and as said at the time, the chairman may well feel that we would benefit financially, in terms of attendances, if we were top of the 2nd Division rather than being off the pace at the bottom of Div1.
I am sure someone much smarter than me could provide you with crowd averages from last season and the previous one, and almost certainly the crowds will have been bigger in Div 2 because we were going for the title.

However, I would like to think that the chairman's a fan too.

I have not a shadow of doubt that Mr Rae is a Morton fan who hates to see the team lose.

I have been stating for three years that he is the victim of his own personality. Once he has decided what he THINKS will be best, he is unable to accept when it goes wrong, and in the great scheme of things that has been his main downfall.

Another of his personality traits which has done him no favours is the attitude that those who are not openly for him must be perceived as 'the enemy'.

There are more!!

So he IS a Morton fan-but first and foremost he's a Dougie fan and expects everyone else to be the same.
mortonjag 2008-09-23 15:05:22 If the motivation's there, I'd pick them out of a lucky bag and lock DI/DC in hospitality.
mortonjag 2008-09-23 15:15:05
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 23 2008, 03:07 PM) [snapback]516669[/snapback]
Scary!! You sounded like my wife when I asked for permission to attend tonights game... rolleyes.gif "You are self self self.....you and that bloody football team"

You are rather late in jumping on the 'bash the Jag' bandwagon my friend, but do fill yer bits!


What do you think of Mr Rae's stewardship of the club?

Perhaps you are more comfortable posting relatively trivial threads about tonight's line up, when hardly anybody seems to give a f*ck about tonight's game.

That's down to one man!

Don't you agree?

mortonjag 2008-09-23 15:31:40
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 23 2008, 03:12 PM) [snapback]516675[/snapback]
I know of at least one erstwhile frequent and active poster on here who no longer does so because of you. I'm obviously not going to give a name but I'm sure you'll be able to work it out yourself without too much trouble if you were to give it a bit of thought. And of course there are many others like me who continue to contribute even though you've taken a lot of the enjoyment and interest out of doing so. That's just my opinion, shared I know by many others, but equally I accept there are others who'll disagree with me and who may even be in the majority.

But here we go again - this thread was started to try to get opinions and generate a decent discussion on what I thought was an important subject - and it ends up being about you yet again. rolleyes.gif



OH MY GOD-you actually know of ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I take it this innocent soul never dreamed of crossing swords with Mortonjag! dry.gif

That's the problem, isn't it?

If you can't stand the heat CHC, get out of the kitchen. We're all supposed to be big boys remember.

Are you hoping for a sainthood by 'continuing to contribute even though I've taken a lot of the enjoyment and interest out of doing so'. Oh that everybody would follow your rabble rousing leads and dance to your merry little tunes!!!

'It's MY game and you're spoiling it-I'll clype to the Mods-I'll canvass support and sympathy-oh wait, nobody cares-BOO BLOODY HOO!'

GROW UP! crying.gif crying.gif crying.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 06:37:46
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 23 2008, 03:17 PM) [snapback]516681[/snapback]
No need to be touchy, I'm not jumping on any bandwagon MJ. I seriously just thought of my wife moaning at me last night when I read that post.....that is all.

laugh.gif I confess to a little paranoia GT. It comes from constantly being under attack. Even people I trust are always talking behind my back. At Cappielow folk stare at me and then look at each other knowingly. The voices are very disturbing too! smile.gif

QUOTE(SramTon @ Sep 23 2008, 04:44 PM) [snapback]516769[/snapback]
I have some sympathy for Rae. He's had bad luck as well as bad judgement.

I have not an ounce of sympathy for him He has made his 'bad luck'. His apparent success making sweeties has been mirrored by abysmal failure as a football club chairman, and that's the chance to progress in the League cup now gone. More 'bad luck'-or just the result of his unwillingness to sign an experienced manager he can't control? I see AD was present again last night. His offer must be going down in value by the week. When will that crazy old fud finally cut and run?

QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 23 2008, 06:20 PM) [snapback]516799[/snapback]
Bad luck, bad judgements, bad decisions but most of all interference. His tenure's failure thus far can only be blamed on one person.

...and he CANNOT change!

QUOTE(vespaton @ Sep 23 2008, 07:21 PM) [snapback]516812[/snapback]
I think DR is a local man who most likely went from rags to riches via his business....man made....no silver spoon.




Moral of the story....do you want a DR (safe and the club won't go under) or Gordon Ramsay type where we may get success but 5 years down the line go into administration.

Regards,

Brian.


Duncan Douglas Faulds Rae, son of relatively well to do local business people, and educated at a fee paying school. Started a career in banking before deciding to go into business.

Give me a GR type right now. According to my fellow posters I'll be deid in 5 years anyway, and the Ton is not a bloody Gretna. It's long past time folk acknowledged our potential.

QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 23 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]516816[/snapback]
Give me Dougie Rae over Gordron Ramsay anyday. At least Dougie cares about the club and goes to every game, Ramsay has so many things going on he'd make it to one game a season and not be around the club all year.

Not that Ramsay will ever take over Morton anyway.

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mortonjag 2008-09-24 06:49:47 I heard last night that the real reason for Colin Stewart's current 'injury' is that he was caught....

OOPS.... laugh.gif

mortonjag 2008-09-24 06:51:55
QUOTE(Deego @ Sep 23 2008, 11:40 PM) [snapback]516957[/snapback]
v*****.

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mortonjag 2008-09-24 07:05:36 Cuthbert was MOTM for me.

Shimmin, Smith, Masty, and Wakey also stood out, the latter for his tireless engine like work up front.

Irons totally f***ed up again IMO. The game was still there to be won in NORMAL time if he'd made his subs earlier and properly. WTF was Masterton 'hooked'? After he left to a standing ovation we got f*ck all from set pieces. Pantaloons should have been the one to go off .

Jimbo got his goal, and was more like his old self, but still the final product is pretty dire most of the time, and I'm afraid superkev just ain't very super those days.

Credit to all the boys for effort. We can win come Saturday, but I suspect Mr Irons will be back to his philosophy of 'not leaking goals', which has seen us score 2 in seven league matches! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 07:16:44
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 23 2008, 09:40 PM) [snapback]516871[/snapback]
I saw the 90 minutes but had to come home just there as my wee brother isn't well. (He did well to last the 90 minutes, coz he was flagging badly.) We're actually playing quite well when we're not resorting to just punting it up to Wake, who can't deal with that kind of service. MotM so far is Shimmin - an absolute powerhouse. Fantastic, fantastic, fantastic.


Shimmin's beginning to sound almost as good as Jimbo was four years ago! rolleyes.gif

What did you think of Chris Smith last night?
mortonjag 2008-09-24 07:18:59
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Sep 24 2008, 12:13 AM) [snapback]517033[/snapback]
Last time we made the last 8 in the League Cup...

It's a diddy cup! wink.gif

IT IS NOT A DIDDY CUP AND WE'VE LOST AGAIN THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SOME MUCH NEEDED MONEY!
mortonjag 2008-09-24 07:22:52
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Sep 23 2008, 11:47 PM) [snapback]516984[/snapback]
you'd rather get pumped four-nil, would you? Not me - I don't want to see Division Two football at Scapa again and that's where we'll be if we don't grind out a few results to get out of the bottom two spots.

Get real, guys - if we have to win ugly, we have to win ugly; it's the ONLY way we're likely to win just now!

Thank you Mr Irons. You may now go away.

QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 24 2008, 12:20 AM) [snapback]517053[/snapback]
We have a limited squad and fans have to accept if we are going to get results, in the near future, we have to take them any which way.

Thank you Mr Collins. You may now go away.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 07:25:26
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 23 2008, 11:39 PM) [snapback]516953[/snapback]
Im sure there were plenty more than 2032 at the game.

Of course there were Ghostie-confirmed by the half time draw money being well over three hundred quid.

Looks like Rae's been reduced to blatant fiddling to get a few extra bob. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 07:29:22
QUOTE(Savo @ Sep 24 2008, 12:40 AM) [snapback]517074[/snapback]
There definitely was a programme, was standing with JonaTon who bought one - and he said that Rae was referring to 'Inverness Caledonia' in his column laugh.gif

It was a £1 'cheapie'. I've not had a chance to read mine yet, but will when I go for a keech, shortly.

I thought we were supposed to make a profit from the programme, and I thought last night's match was a Cup Tie against SPL opposition. Maybe the printers weren't 'up for it'! dry.gif

Sorry, sorry, sorry times behind the scenes at Cappielow.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 07:32:18 Who could possibly predict it-football's such a crazy game.

What I will say is that if we get two half decent wingers and a creative midfielder on loan before Saturday, we'll probably walk it.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 07:49:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 23 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]516804[/snapback]
Sacked workers in India allegedly beat to death the local chief executive of an Italian company that had laid them off.

Scores of former employees at auto parts maker Graziano Transmissioni attacked chief executive Lalit Kishore Choudhary after a meeting to discuss a long-running labour dispute, Indian newspapers reported.

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http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/world...1935621943.html

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mortonjag 2008-09-24 07:50:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 23 2008, 04:34 PM) [snapback]516761[/snapback]
can't they just be friends.

friends never leave their mates behind.

signed Spurtle

QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Sep 23 2008, 06:54 PM) [snapback]516806[/snapback]
Frog would own Monkey.

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mortonjag 2008-09-24 07:55:32
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 23 2008, 04:22 PM) [snapback]516745[/snapback]
He's a pensioner, what do you expect? He's grumpy and has got hee-haw else to do. Reminds me of a certain Mr Rae, hmmmmmmmm.

I am HE!

QUOTE(simple_ton @ Sep 23 2008, 04:29 PM) [snapback]516755[/snapback]
And now........
back to letting the Good Doc drivel...... laugh.gif laugh.gif

Dribble? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 07:59:23
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 23 2008, 04:27 PM) [snapback]516751[/snapback]
Or Ghandi. Hitler is recorded as telling the British ambassador how to solve the India problem: shoot Ghandi, then shoot other selected members of the national Congress, and so on until the rule of Britain is restored...

Excellent SPARROT - we have a breakthrough at last! Soon you'll be quoting all your sources and mentioning that your statements are opinions.

Well done! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 09:04:34
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 24 2008, 08:09 AM) [snapback]517128[/snapback]
On the way to work this morning, could have sworn I saw some bright yellow thing, with a man dressed in red floating up the Clyde. Na couldn't have been, surely not unsure.gif


BRING A FRIEND-HO HO HO
mortonjag 2008-09-24 09:07:28 Well folks-spit it out!

What did HE say? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 09:09:23
QUOTE(Jim McInally @ Sep 24 2008, 07:58 AM) [snapback]517123[/snapback]
does that prove the size of the crowd ?

genuine question.



QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 24 2008, 08:05 AM) [snapback]517126[/snapback]
It always gives a fair indication imo.

It actually gives a fairly reliable indication in my experience.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 09:11:19
QUOTE(Jim McInally @ Sep 24 2008, 07:53 AM) [snapback]517121[/snapback]
Do you think so ?

You've kept that to yourself.

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mortonjag 2008-09-24 09:13:43
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 24 2008, 08:48 AM) [snapback]517155[/snapback]
Couldn't be anything to do with the 'manager' not having a clue and being brought in because he was used to working in a similar environment could it? Just asking because no-one in their right mind would ever have employed Irons. Just a thought.

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His tactics look a bit rusty.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 09:18:20
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 23 2008, 10:41 PM) [snapback]516907[/snapback]
I thought Weatherson was imense tonight.



I think he's lost weight TBH!
mortonjag 2008-09-24 09:33:34
QUOTE(EBu @ Sep 24 2008, 09:22 AM) [snapback]517175[/snapback]
Here's a thought, instead of having one of the best playing surfaces in Scottish football, why not just get a tractor to plow it all up and we'll plant some potatoes in it?

Lets face it, we aint using it to play passing football so why give the opposition the advantage?

Happens every other week.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 09:37:46 He's been criticised pretty roughly by quite a few posters-mainly on the grounds of being 'too wee', and of not commanding his box.

I reckon he put in a faultless performance last night against opponents from a higher league.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 09:40:31
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Sep 24 2008, 09:38 AM) [snapback]517179[/snapback]
Must have played himsefl into contention for a start on saturday against Dunfermline. His attitude was first class when he came on, and if he had replaced Wake rather than Russell last night I feel we may just have got something from that game dry.gif (Take note Mr Irons!)

I believe Peter and Jenks should have been brought on earlier. We could have won last night-it was a repeat of the too late substitutions against Partick.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 10:48:49
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 24 2008, 10:44 AM) [snapback]517203[/snapback]
im talking about the ' them and us ' situation that has risen more than once between the players and fans in the last few years, surely you're not so blind that you haven't noticed it. Its not hearsay, its reality.

You may like him personally, but there has been times where the players wouldnt even celebrate with the fans when we scored, there have been times when players have scored and made gestures at the fans as if to almost say " Get it right up ye " and then there have been times, including this season where players have shouted things at fans. The main culprit is Peter Weatherson and with his influence on the dressing room you would have to be pretty naive to not think that his own feeling of disharmony with the fans hasn't been passed on throughout the team.

And all this from someone who has wore the captains armband this season, along with Mcmanus who was wearing it when he called the fans wankers or whatever. Stuart Greacen has had far more criticism than all of them the last 3 years and handles himself brilliantly at all times, If Weatherson wanted to grow up a bit finally then he'd do well to take some advice from our real captain.


If Greacen's so bloody good and Weatherson's so bloody bad surely their attitudes to the fans should cancel each other out, and the players attitude should be 'normal'!
mortonjag 2008-09-24 10:52:10
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 24 2008, 10:40 AM) [snapback]517200[/snapback]
Still a bit nervy, but improving all the time. His distribution could use some work, but he's hardly alone in that.

Agree, and he tends to get sucked infield too easily. Given his age I reckon he shows enough talent to become a first rate full back.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 10:57:29
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 24 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]517206[/snapback]
The Jag bites every hand unsure.gif

Lorry man is a very, very, very nice POUFFE! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 10:59:42 Discombobulated.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 11:19:38
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 24 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]517217[/snapback]
If Greacen had Weatherson's ability or Weatherson had Greacen's attitude then they'd be playing in the SPL at least.
It is a very small minority of fans who abuse players, why should everyone else have to suffer because of it? the players should realise this, and infact in every club in the country they do...except Morton. Morton fans love to play the victim when it comes to the club, and some players love to play the victim when it comes to the fans. Do you really think Weatherson would be getting the abuse he gets from some if he wasn't wasting his talent that would make him the best player at the club while sitting on his impressive new contract and pay rise?. He's been shortchanging the fans since we got promoted.
over the last three years he definetely has. Until the last few weeks of the season Greacen had been getting it non stop since we were in the second division, and by the time it came to the last few weeks of last season some of it was brutal. All that time he was still club captain and although you could plainly see the abuse he got from fans for his every touch had left his confidence so low that he was afraid to pass back to the goalkeeper or even take a touch, instead choosing to just kick the ball out the park, every interview he gave in newspapers he praised the fans and i remember at least one interview he said we had the best fans in the country, which took a lot of balls in my opinion, considering fans would groan everytime the ball went near him.

Port ton-I've said this before-it's easy to slate players but where is the actual evidence? I don't see You Tube videos of Spoonsy at his 'nonsense'. I've never seen any evidence on here. One poster once commented about having seen him desperate to get into the Bookies before a game but that's about it. I mean something like this might me more convincing than gossip:

'Here is a short clip of Peter leaving the pub very much 'the worse o' the wear' and entering the bookmakers. As you will see from the recorded time he should have been at training. The Club can confirm that he had 'phoned in sick' that morning. The close up clearly shows him placing a £500 bet on Morton's opponents in the forthcoming game-a game in which his performance was described as 'diabolical', scoring, as he did, six own goals.

He is subsequently seen entering the local brothel with a large Chinese carry out and a broad smile'.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 11:24:28
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 24 2008, 11:22 AM) [snapback]517234[/snapback]
Oh yeah, you're a great one to be lecturing anyone about 'lack of evidence', Mr-I-know-something really important-but-won't-say-what.

I know everything there is to know about MY Club Peter, as you very well know.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 11:28:36
QUOTE(big blue eyes @ Sep 24 2008, 11:27 AM) [snapback]517242[/snapback]
I wish you'd stop that. Every time i post anything you're trying to laugh at me.

Maybe you are jealous if you're a woman.

Mrs Ton is ALL woman son! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 11:43:53
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 24 2008, 11:25 AM) [snapback]517237[/snapback]
Only one line Douglas? I'm disappointed, I expect more from you.

Will you kindly address me as 'Boss', Peter, as I clearly AM your boss irrespective of what that Irons fellah may say or think, and I'm HIS Boss too, and come to think of it, I'm the Boss of everything and everybody who is remotely connected with Greenock Morton Football Club Ltd. and Golden Casket Ltd. the parent company- which made excellent profits last year and is going from strength to strength on the strength of the current credit crunch which sees folk having their three piece suites and cars re-possessed and buying confectionery as an excellent substitute, talking of which I thought that when the Jenkins boy came on as a substitute last night he showed without the remotest shadow of doubt the value of having two farmers sons in the squad, adding as it does indisputable strength to an already strong side which may currently be sitting at the bottom of the league as a result of an incomprehensible run of ill fortune, but is undoubtedly on the brink of a hitherto unmatched run, which will in all likelihood see us challenging for promotion to the SPL come the end of the year, and of which, of course, I am also the Boss.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 11:48:06
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 24 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]517253[/snapback]
I thought Harding did okay defensively until extra time.
No point hollering too much about slack distribution when no-one offers an option.

Nobody in the squad can match the precision of Harding's long diagonal balls! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 11:51:36
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 24 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]517260[/snapback]
I didn't mention Bookies or Alcohol, its other people that have those problems with him. Mine are based purely on a footballing level for what he could, but ultimately doesn't give to the team due to lack of fitness which short changes fans who pay to see him play well and in an ideal world score the goals that keep us in this division and for helping create a divide on more than one occassion between fans and players.

you don't need a youtube video of his lack of fitness or the more than one occassion he's made gestures/shouted something at the fans, despite it being a small minority of fans who boo or abuse him.

If he refuses to train properly I would smack his big pink botty.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 11:53:30
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 24 2008, 11:48 AM) [snapback]517262[/snapback]
Does babysitting my 11 month old son count for a reason not to attend.?

On the subject of crowd size, whether DDF is on the fiddle or not, get used to decreasing crowds as more people will find better things to do with thier money than pay to watch Morton at present.

Sit at home and watch fitba on the Telly with a big bag of sweeties!
mortonjag 2008-09-24 12:01:21
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Sep 24 2008, 11:55 AM) [snapback]517272[/snapback]
You can ram it ya wee condescending baw sack.

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mortonjag 2008-09-24 12:09:05
QUOTE(big blue eyes @ Sep 24 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]517284[/snapback]
That's not witty.

You are a boring old creep, and it may be rude but i guess you've not had sex in years.

...and that's not remotely convincing. I reckon Mrs T has you spot on. I bet you'd just love to shag somebody like your imaginary Big Blue Eyes. rolleyes.gif

FREAK! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 12:16:26
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 24 2008, 12:06 PM) [snapback]517288[/snapback]
I love how people just completely forget him playing the whole of last season up front apart from the first two games, generally not moving from the spot he was standing in, to the point where he was dropped despite having very little in the way of a replacement.

His best season for us was at rightback, because he was under no pressure at all except in the odd game when he'd have a shocker against pacey left wingers. He's been found out up front at this level, and again it is all down to fitness and attitude.

You can't blame him being played out of position for his general pishness, he's played about 5 or 6 league games not upfront in the last season and a quarter.

edit to add: incidentally the first two games he played at right back last season he scored in.


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mortonjag 2008-09-24 12:18:01 Unfortunately it's much more than a 'team' which will be required before we have any chance of moving forward.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 12:22:43
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 24 2008, 12:06 PM) [snapback]517287[/snapback]
Nearly jag, I sat at home 'watching' Radio Scotlands open mic last night with a couple of beers. I stared at that screen for the entire show, I think I have burned the image into my retina. Was quite good patter though.

I could hear the crowd from Cappielow every time I went into my kitchen which didn't make it easier.

I was a little bit knotty last night. As we walked out right in front of Chick the Pr1ck I said in a stage whisper to my brother-'At least the midden got humped too'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 12:27:14
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 24 2008, 11:31 AM) [snapback]517248[/snapback]
Will this be before or after you grasp the subtle difference between an online messageboard and a historical dissertation?

On line message board.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 12:31:49
QUOTE(Kekkoman @ Sep 24 2008, 12:26 PM) [snapback]517311[/snapback]
Did anyone else notice everytime we had a corner or a paartalu long throw, whoever was marking wake had him in a full nelson everytime. There is no way that sexual deviant mccurry didnt see it.

The Rev McCurry is hardly a sexual deviant, though some may see him as a bit of a swinger!


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mortonjag 2008-09-24 12:38:52
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 24 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]517314[/snapback]
I thought moronjag was the hilarious one on here !

You don't understand hairy one.

'Hilarious' is his nickname-you know-like beermonkey is your real one.

Bartholomew Beermonkey LL.B.

'Arrested, charged, frightened you'll be caged for life?'

Phone Beermonkey and Partners and ask for beermonkey.

mortonjag 2008-09-24 12:49:01
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Sep 24 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]517345[/snapback]
What!?

Finlayson was hilariously bad last night.
Another player who only played at the end of last season for a contract.

Baws-Kev always does his best.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 12:56:39
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 24 2008, 12:48 PM) [snapback]517348[/snapback]
Play well?
Wake was breathing out his arse after 50 minutes last night - I'd wager Weatherson would do likewise.
I find that unacceptable at this level.

We call that 'Flatus' in the Profession.

Would you prefer that name to SPARROT? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 12:57:45
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 24 2008, 12:46 PM) [snapback]517342[/snapback]
Good smashing pumpkins song that!

Do you get a lunch break or are you wasting MY money?
mortonjag 2008-09-24 12:59:30
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 24 2008, 12:45 PM) [snapback]517341[/snapback]
Is Mj trying to groom VT? There's something quite disturbing about the way he reacts to every post. Or maybe VT is Gillian Donald and old Douglas is getting upset with the amount of time she's on here but can't tell her to get off as it would finally expose MJ? I need a lie down after that.

Who is VT?
mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:00:28
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 24 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]517352[/snapback]
As you can see Beermonkey, you are quite clearly wrong. tongue.gif

Beermonkey is always wrong.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:03:03
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 24 2008, 01:02 PM) [snapback]517367[/snapback]
i was 2 ph34r.gif

Missed you again last night!
mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:04:29
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 24 2008, 01:03 PM) [snapback]517369[/snapback]
Whatthef***isgoingonintheleaguewhenwecanplaygreatinthecupgames.

No question mark? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:11:28
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 24 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]517378[/snapback]
its a sign of madness rolleyes.gif

ph34r.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(big blue eyes @ Sep 24 2008, 01:09 PM) [snapback]517387[/snapback]
unsure.gif

You'r crazy.There are loads of pictures of me and my Mum on the web.

Anyway it doesn't really matter. I.m getting fed up with this forum. If i'm not welcome I don't care.

Aye right son-'tits baws oot for the boys then! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:18:38
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 24 2008, 01:16 PM) [snapback]517399[/snapback]
So in best detective stylee, you are saying the Jag is also Big Blue Jugs? ohmy.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:20:15
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 24 2008, 01:14 PM) [snapback]517395[/snapback]
I'd prefer you to do everyone a favour and shut up.
Possibly, Wake has faded badly in the 2nd half of recent games and there has to be a good explanation for it - if Wake is actually fit then woe betide Weatherson playing the same role...

You are not alone Flatus! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:21:45
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 24 2008, 01:19 PM) [snapback]517403[/snapback]
Please tell me i am wrong? ph34r.gif

Happy to oblige:


'You are wrong!' angel.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:23:12
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 24 2008, 01:05 PM) [snapback]517375[/snapback]
in the lounges again ph34r.gif

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Are you allowed to drink and drive? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:24:03
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 24 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]517407[/snapback]
you aint wrong

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mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:25:49
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 24 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]517414[/snapback]
So the Jag is sitting right now with 2 computers on, pretending to be a female on one of them? huh.gif

WOOD EYE? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:28:35
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 24 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]517379[/snapback]
Your boyfriend Vikington.

How dare you call me Vikington Peter, and I'll have you know I don't go in for boys!
mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:31:38
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Sep 24 2008, 01:30 PM) [snapback]517420[/snapback]
Nope, I was relieved when Russell got subbed. Right decision.

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mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:32:48
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 24 2008, 01:30 PM) [snapback]517422[/snapback]
you dont need 2 computers

Are you good at it?
mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:35:57
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 24 2008, 01:33 PM) [snapback]517428[/snapback]
laugh.gif never tried it but mods are all seeing tongue.gif

FFS-I am VERY embarrassed-never again shall I type with my willie in a glass of orage juice. blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:39:29
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 24 2008, 01:35 PM) [snapback]517431[/snapback]
Oh he was on a nostalgia trip last night, Hal Stewart, Benny Rooney, Mike Jackson, Big Andy, oh how he went on, and on, and on until a 12 year old St.Midden fan e-mailed in and asked what his registration plate was laugh.gif He was basically told he cannie be a midden fan if he likes Morton so much.

He is the biggest sycophant in Scottish Football, and one ugly Pishley c*nt to boot.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:42:26
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 24 2008, 01:21 PM) [snapback]517405[/snapback]
smokers in that area do my nut sleep.gif

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Not TOO close to the bogs!!!
mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:51:33
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 24 2008, 01:45 PM) [snapback]517439[/snapback]
Yeah, totally agree. Kevin was my man of the match last night.

Mine too-my brothers were arguing about outfielders till I mentioned him, and they kinda looked surprised before agreeing with me.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:57:43
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 24 2008, 01:51 PM) [snapback]517448[/snapback]
did they still have the Caley Mac advert. I like that biggrin.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-24 14:02:08
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Sep 24 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]517453[/snapback]
McInally got abuse for playing to many wee players in midfield Irons gets abuse for playing to many big guys in the middle of the park will we ever be happy? individual players are abused verbally at games not to say the abuse given to them on here and when anyone responds against the fans ie Jenkins/Weatherson they get even more abuse

Last night the 1st shout of abuse came from a guy beside in the cowshed as the players took the kick off

If only everyone was as perfect as the Morton fans.

Mr Rae seemed to clock that a wee while back.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 14:06:08
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 24 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]517465[/snapback]
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Cheer up-I'm away for ten minutes and I'm going to get that programme from the glove compartment. I'll carefully read your words of wisdom along with Mr Rae's words of the opposite.

Any problems while I'm away, and BBE will deal with them! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 14:42:24
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 24 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]517486[/snapback]
laugh.gif try under the managers bit ph34r.gif

STATS THE WAY I LIKE IT



by ME! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 14:49:26
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Sep 24 2008, 02:33 PM) [snapback]517493[/snapback]
Tsk, tsk, splitting your infinitives.......

Repeat after me, boy - "YOU MAY GO AWAY NOW".

Go and stand in the corner, and don't forget to wear the pointy hat.
(Oh I hope I haven't gone too far with the sarcasm there - he'll maybe report me to the Mods and try to get me banned!) dry.gif

Not a chance of that, though you may now feel free to explain your comment, and your misunderstanding of basic grammar. smile.gif

Alternatively you may feel free to do so now.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 14:59:17 I can assure you all that I will not stand for some of the inept performances individuals have shown this season and I will do everything in my power to improve things it's not really my fault at all because I didn't sign the players, and I don't coach the players, and I don't select the teams, and I'm not responsible for man-management and motivation, and really when it all boils down we'd be top of the league if they'd only do what Mr Rae tells them to do. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 15:07:37
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 24 2008, 03:05 PM) [snapback]517527[/snapback]
Gone fishing ???

Only for opinions Chrissiboi!
mortonjag 2008-09-24 15:10:27
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Sep 24 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]517515[/snapback]
Not a chance of that, though you may now feel free to explain your comment, and your misunderstanding of basic grammar. smile.gif

Alternatively you may feel free to do so now.
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.......don't you mean "to now do so"?? tongue.gif

I mean that either seems fine to me! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 15:14:23 It's a question with an obvious answer. Stevenson would ideally fit the current set up-if motivated and on form.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 15:16:25
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 24 2008, 02:42 PM) [snapback]517503[/snapback]
I see they haven't even bothered to spell your name correctly Bryan. Mind you what do you expect from a programme that had a picture of Jon Newby with the caption Jann Newby below it or in which the club's Chairman doesn't even bother to learn the name of the opposition or their manager. Apparently we were playing Inverness Caledonia last night and Hibs are managed by Mixu Paat.

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Could be he's forgotten. He's good at things like that.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 15:25:56
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Sep 24 2008, 03:18 PM) [snapback]517541[/snapback]
the boy aint been given a chance under Irons, if he's that big a motivator then if Irons cant get him going he is in the wrong job. as for form tell me a midfielder in the current team who has form apart from mcallister or motivated for that matter. granted masterton had a good game imo last night but the rest were cack

That's my concern about DI-when he arrived the reports were all coming back positive about how good he was in the motivational and coaching departments, but it's perfectly obvious that there has been some kind of problem, and I believe Davie is unable to accept genuine responsibility-at least in part-for our present plight.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 15:30:47
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Sep 24 2008, 03:25 PM) [snapback]517550[/snapback]
come on mj do you not think this hate campaign has gone long enough, its down to everyone at cappielow at the moment from the top to the bottom everything stinks. I hate going to cappielow just now, the team on the park aint playing, the management team are poor, the board and all about it tell us nothing and should accept some resposability and fix the issues...............what ever way.

If you mean my last comment about the Chairman, that was tongue in cheek.

I don't hate going to Cappielow, but it could be a lot better. I just don't like it when the Manager appears to be attempting to shift all the blame onto his players. Maybe he doesn't mean it to come out that way!
mortonjag 2008-09-24 15:37:35
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 24 2008, 03:17 PM) [snapback]517540[/snapback]
I assume cos they need water to make the pastry and stuff.

DOH!
mortonjag 2008-09-24 15:45:04
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 24 2008, 03:39 PM) [snapback]517569[/snapback]
You having a senior moment Douglas? You were asking who VT was remember? He's Vikington. VIKINGTON. VIKINGTON. Can you hear me ok?

Oh yes Peter, I remember we had many Vikingtons, of whom Erik Sorensen was probably the best - a fine bunch of talented young men who graced the blue and white hoops although he was known as the man in black before I personally brokered the deal which saw him transferred to my son's favourite team for, as I re-call- about two millions.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 15:47:30
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 24 2008, 02:30 PM) [snapback]517489[/snapback]
in all seriousness smoking shouldnt be allowed near disabled toilets.

I'm sure you have a very good reason, and I'd guess I know the answer, but tell me why.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 15:53:31
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Sep 24 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]517566[/snapback]
imo they ALL every fickin last one of them from the top down need to put up or shut up, its all pure and utter manyaka on and off the park, get it sorted. all blame hounds from the chairman down.

Ah-I see where you're coming from now.

We're not going to get truth and honesty so long as the status quo exists. I've come to that conclusion. Lying, hypocrisy, and treating the fans like vegetables seems to be the order of the day, and as you correctly suggest, it pervades the club.

HMM! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 16:14:46
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 24 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]517581[/snapback]
Can only access the board during my breaks happy.gif

Are you spending my money prudently?
mortonjag 2008-09-24 16:18:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 20 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]515360[/snapback]
Gidday Bryan,

another month has passed.

any news yet please ?

Bryan's been about today-Newt-maybe he has you 'on ignore'!
mortonjag 2008-09-24 16:24:15
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 24 2008, 04:16 PM) [snapback]517590[/snapback]
I am trying my utmost sir. Of course the first payday was spent on a few things I badly needed ie trainers that don't have holes in them.

After this I will be working on getting out of my overdraft. Then after that saving for Christmas. After that finally learning to drive.

Prudence is a basic characteristic of accounts remember smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-24 16:27:42
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 24 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]517596[/snapback]
as you know a fair number of wheelchair users have breathing issue and smoke doesnt help

I agree. How far away do you think the smokers should be to render the air reasonably innocuous?
mortonjag 2008-09-24 18:51:32
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Sep 24 2008, 04:32 PM) [snapback]517610[/snapback]
I would love to say yay or nay Donga, but i was in Ibiza when we played Hibs, so missed that cracker! Typical that i managed to miss one of our most exciting games in recent years. Mind you, worst places to be than Ibiza!
I also thought Wakey had a good game (not outstanding, but good) last night, can't understand why some on here are slating him for last night.

Frustration and the need to find a scapegoat?
mortonjag 2008-09-24 18:56:56 ]


QUOTE(DongaTon @ Sep 24 2008, 06:52 PM) [snapback]517692[/snapback]
Read on, smartarse.
I think it is relevant to bring him up again at this juncture. We lack creativity and an eye for goal - he has both in abundance. He brought other players into the game - he complemented Temps well, etc.
As said above, he's now older, wiser, bigger, stronger. I think we need to make inroads now to try and make this happen, why not broker the deal now in prep for Jan.

If he's really wiser he won't touch Morton with a bargepole, and that's not to say I wouldn't want him at Cappielow.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 19:17:17
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Sep 24 2008, 06:46 PM) [snapback]517685[/snapback]
unfortunately mortonjag you cant pin this one on dougie, its irons fault, ok it was dougie who employed him but he did come with a track record so i cant see how you can put it down to dougie. Irons has lost the plot completely.

Since you've chosen to bring it up, it is ultimately Rae's fault. HE and only HE signed Irons, and if you have any decency, honesty, and sense of logic you'll admit that they make good bedfellows in the 'losing the plot completely' stakes.

QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 24 2008, 06:52 PM) [snapback]517691[/snapback]
Wouldn't go that far. Still a lot of work to do though.

Though do agree with you that MJ's attempts to pin this all on himself DDFR is laughable (as was his thread 'claiming' that losing to an SPL team would be extremely damaging to his the Chairman's tenure).

Extremely damaging to his tenure! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I said he would still be in charge. I merely pointed out that losing last night would deprive him of his last chance of a stay of execution in terms of credibility. 'Tonight, however, we have the opportunity to put our league worries behind us' he claimed in the programme.

Well we didn't-did we?

A defeat by Dunfermline on Saturday would add even more heat to the already simmering pot of discontent.

When it finally penetrates the Chairman's skull that HE is actually being blamed for his crass incompetence, expect to see the current management team disappear like snow off a dyke.

Then again, we may have bottomed out, and be about to start climbing the league. We have enough ability within the squad to end up mid-table-I've never thought otherwise. That would enhance Mr Irons currently low standing with the fans.

mortonjag 2008-09-24 19:25:44
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Sep 24 2008, 06:51 PM) [snapback]517687[/snapback]
Either of those two to be honest except I would have Stewart in goals instead of Cuthbert. Once again he was inept at dealing with cross balls as he has been all season. Good at kicking, shot stopping and sweeping up behind the defence, but a keeper who can't deal with a cross inside his six yard box is not much use.

I've watched Stewart at least half a dozen times and cannot believe how timid he is for such a tall man. He repeatedly stands rooted to the spot on his goal line or starts to come out only to change his mind. I've been singularly unimpressed by that, he appears to be as jittery as a box of jumping beans, and his kicking is keech.

Cuthbert may lack a couple of big banana feet's inches, but last night was a classic example of controlling his box. When he had to punch clear, he did so, and did so effectively.

I normally agree with most of your opinions, and I just can't see where you're coming from on this one! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 19:28:18
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Sep 24 2008, 07:10 PM) [snapback]517717[/snapback]
Anyone who honestly thinks that Wake was brilliant last night must also consider Dominic Shimmin as a God among mere mortals, and wholly expect to see him ascend into Heaven on Saturday from the hallowed Cappielow turf in a blaze of blue and white fire, with the tune of 'Live is Life' in the background.

Why?
mortonjag 2008-09-24 19:45:57
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 24 2008, 07:23 PM) [snapback]517734[/snapback]
Are you seriously suggesting that last night's result means that DDFR now has ZERO credibility?

Nice fishing trip, not gonna catch anything here though. laugh.gif

He's had zero credibility with me for at least three seasons. His credibility with the majority of posters now seems extremely low.

You may very well find him credible Naitch.

Indeed I invite you to cite your reasons!
mortonjag 2008-09-24 19:50:17
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Sep 24 2008, 07:41 PM) [snapback]517751[/snapback]
Add me to the list. Similarly, my 'associates' have no issues with the player. I sometimes wonder if Peter thinks that the kangaroo court of Greenockmorton.org (aka weans world) is representative of the fanbase.

Like yourself Forza, I don't believe so.

What is an out of towner supposed to believe? On one hand we have a hard core of posters who repeatedly allude to Spoonsy's Sodom and Gomorrah lifestyle, while others including your good self have 'no issues with him'!

I believe him to be an excellent striker. I just wish he'd get back to striking.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 08:49:53
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 24 2008, 07:59 PM) [snapback]517773[/snapback]
How many Spin Doctors did you have working on that post? rolleyes.gif


Spin, perhaps, Naitch, but not so bad as evading my legitimate question, which I shall repeat for you.

What evidence would you care to cite in support of your suggestion that Mr Rae still has some credibility with the fans? It's possibly a more important question than you appreciate at the moment.


QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Sep 25 2008, 12:16 AM) [snapback]517889[/snapback]
i know your not one for providing genuine proof about things tongue.gif but any chance you could guide me to that poll?


I believe the Rae sycophants have already performed their mass suicide. I understand the ceremonial 'going away kiss' was something to behold- a large and perfectly formed circle of blue woad painted naked bodies with each tongue lovingly caressing the arse in front. Then followed the mass ingestion of strychnine laced Fudgy Wudgys to the muted strains of 'Live is Life'

I expect the sycophant club forgot to send out your invitation! laugh.gif

What evidence would you care to cite in support of your apparent belief that Mr Rae still has any credibility with the fans.

After the Thistle game on 26th April I commented that Rae had a brass neck to join the players on the pitch BECAUSE he had refused to sack McInally, but then was appearing to be taking all the credit as usual.

At the time you wished me 'a slow and painful death'.
Your comment was ignored by the Mods though several posters were surprised at your apparent 'vehemence'.

I don't miss the significance of comments like that Doc, whether they are made by yourself, or Shimmin Ton, or Mabawsa Ritchie, or Russell's Muscles, or any of the others who resent criticism of their paymaster.

Rae's credibility with the fans has gone. It is simply a matter of time till something 'gives'. Crowds at Cappielow are dropping off at an alarming rate, the 'feel good factor' has long disappeared from the shed, folk are posting every day that they can no longer be bothered, season tickets are being offered for sale for buttons, and Big Doc asks Mortonjag for PROOF that Rae has lost credibility.

Is it time to 'out' yourself Doc? Surely you can't just be an ordinary fan who is thick enough to cross swords with Mortonjag. You should really know better. After all, you're not THAT bright, are you? wub.gif

Nope-I reckon you're another insider weasel. Indeed I challenge you to PROVE you are not. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-25 09:32:41
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Sep 25 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]517947[/snapback]
Why?

Because they gave up in despair of course! rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 25 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]517949[/snapback]
Hmmmm, a post of two halves. Completely agree with the first half but you do shoot yourself in the fudgywudgys in the second by asking for proof that someone is who they say they are whilst hiding behind a false name and making unproven claims about the club and how it's run. I think if he shows you his, you should show him yours. So to speak.


Ah-the ongoing annoyance of those who resent exclusion! Non-publication was the correct decision Peter. All documents are available for inspection as and when Mortonjag and the several others with access deem that appropriate.


You are getting confused with your parallels. Mortonjag merely invited the other Doc to confirm or deny that he is yet another insider weasel. The reason is that his postings bear a striking similarity to standard weasel attacks. Mortonjag's identity is well known and has been posted on this forum on more than one occasion by said weasels!!! laugh.gif

He may simply be one of the few misguided fools who still think Mortonjag's some decrepit old fud dragging a bust catheter bag about a run down and urine sodden Glasgow Nursing Home. I'm sure he'll keep us posted.

At least you know exactly who I am Peter! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-25 09:53:23
QUOTE(Edinton @ Sep 25 2008, 08:38 AM) [snapback]517937[/snapback]
It's there to protect this site as much as anything, to avoid the owner (me technically) or the host (tontastic) being help liable for anything slanderous (for example) being posted about the club, or about anyone (or thing) to be honest.

If it's something that's a matter of opinion then that's fine. If it's something that actually happened and can be corroborated by others then that's different. Whether the club will approve of it being posted is something completely different - I'm sure they love most of the topics that are about them anyway!

If you are unsure about anything being posted and then taken down then feel free to run it past me, Tontastic or Bryan first for approval. Hope that helps?

(I've not been on much recently so if you've PM'd me or reported something to me and I haven't replied then I apologise....work has been absolutely MENTAL and I've been away the last couple of weekends so I haven't had a great deal of time to catch up.)

I don't quite follow that.

Anything which is clearly posted by an individual as AN OPINION, is not actionable in any way. Neither Tontastic or yourself could be successfully sued for the opinions of others. Free speech is a luxury we still have in Scotland-though on this forum I sometimes question that!!! laugh.gif

If something has happened (at, or to the Club) and any poster chooses to publicise on the forum details (of which he has incontrovertible evidence and for which he has first hand corroboration) the Club could attempt to sue Tontastic, yourself, or that poster till it was blue in the face!!!

Publicising information which might be, or might be construed to be 'damaging' to the Club is not against the law-providing it is true.

Gary Glitter, I'm sure, must have bitterly resented many of the truthful statements made about his detrimental behaviour.



BTW Edinton-I'd like to stick my big brown tongue right up your arse to your tonsils, and say you have been sorely missed.

Well I've missed you anyway! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-25 10:02:56
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Sep 25 2008, 09:54 AM) [snapback]517967[/snapback]
It's sad that so much hope, expectation and good will that was generated from our return from the death has so quickly disappeared as one poor manager follows another, players are rewarded for underachievement and the board look more an more out of touch with any form of reality. The fans can do their bit but they are only one piece of the jigsaw.



WOW


What a perfect summary of the status quo!



mortonjag 2008-09-25 11:05:05
QUOTE(Edinton @ Sep 25 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]517980[/snapback]
I guess the point I was trying to make was the difference between opinion and fact. It's a fact that 'player x' plays for Morton but it's my opinion that he's not a footballer, for example.

If it's a fact that something happened after that game, and that by posting the details then tontastic, me, the forum, can't be held responsible legally then fair enough. If I don't like it, or perhaps the club was to strongly object to it being made available, then I'd have to look at it and make a decision.

That make sense?

And welcome back indeed, one reply from you = one PM'd complaint rolleyes.gif

Only in the sense that it proves that what is published here is ultimately liable to be censored on the basis of you or Tontastic believing you are doing so to the advantage of our club!

If posters thought that the Club was 'able to interfere' PURELY to avoid legitimate criticism, they might begin to talk of divided loyalties.

Perhaps you'd like to comment on the number of complaints Mortonjag has made in global terms! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-25 11:08:57
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 25 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]517997[/snapback]
The idea that one's freedom of speech trumps a board operator's right to run a site as he/she sees fit is a stupid one.

...and the idea that a board operator could continue to run a successful site if posters were repeatedly denied the right to voice opinion is equally stupid-something to which you have indirectly alluded already.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 11:10:36
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 25 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]518002[/snapback]
I can only speak for when I ran the site and not what goes on now, but:

I can state honestly that, while obviously the club were unhappy with some stuff that was posted on the site, only on a tiny, tiny handful of occasions did they ask for anything to be removed - I think three times. Once was when Jim McInally was being called "Jim the Tim", and I can't remember the other two. Anything pertaining to DDF or the overall stewardship of the club, they didn't ask me about.

I don't think the club really bothers much with this rag.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 11:15:30
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 25 2008, 11:00 AM) [snapback]517995[/snapback]
You and I understand each perfectly Douglas. wink.gif

Indeed Peter, and as you know I've sloped off for a couple of weeks to my wee hidey hole, just as I did after JM walked. The weather here's not too bad-dry with the sun threatening to break through.

Every cloud has a silver lining.

Yours aye


Douglas.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 11:18:38
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 25 2008, 11:12 AM) [snapback]518008[/snapback]
It's true - the level of censorship on this site is incredible. Sometimes I wonder if I'm on the Morton board or if I've been transported back in time to the German Democratic Republic!

I imagine they are targeting you. Perhaps they feel insecure to have such a well qualified ex Moderator on board. I have had no problem with censorship.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 11:23:36
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 25 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]517998[/snapback]
Agreed ! A lot of people who received formal emails or letters from Messr Scott threatening legal action for our expressed opinions on an internet notice board have learned our lessons.

There has been a bucket load of issues that have gone on at Cappielow in the last couple of years that are well known to people - but that info has not been bandied about willy nilly - for two reasons I would guess.

1) The experiences of the past have taught a lot of people a lot of things. Softly softly catchy monkey being one of them.

2) There are no end of people on this board who (through either blind loyalty/blind ignorance/blind hope) don't want to accept any of the bad news or events that are unfolding at the club - stretching back years - and those people do nothing but throw rocks at the info they receive - so most of us have just stopped bothering. What's going on is what's going on. It is what it is. And those who shared info like this over the years continue to do that with people we know and trust who won't come blabbing on to the board or immediatley dismissing the facts out of hand.

When the truth comes out - as it invariably will - on all manner of matters in the last few years - there will be a lot of people both surprised, and I think disappointed at the extent of what's been going on.

For the meantime, feel free to reply with the "you're talking s***e", "only the in crowd know", "you can all f*** off", "it's a load of pish" etc etc.

It is what it is.

TonInDublin

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mortonjag 2008-09-25 11:26:07
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 25 2008, 11:19 AM) [snapback]518015[/snapback]
Hypothetically if anyone did have a problem with the censorship it would take them just a few minutes to set up, say, a blogspot account like the one that JonaTon's excellent site is run on.

'Tis the epitome of journalistic excellence.

JonaTon has no official capacity at the Club has he?
mortonjag 2008-09-25 11:32:27
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Sep 25 2008, 11:26 AM) [snapback]518019[/snapback]
dont know where to start on this one, the slow and painful death thing was removed by myself 30 seconds after posting, one of those heat of the moment moments. Since then i have been willing to apologise for the comment now i will sorry
I cant remember the last time i was a 'fan' of dougie, to the extent that the avatar i have is not exactly 'pro' dougie.
My paymaster is hewden crane hire
As for being think and not very bright that all depends how that you would define it, did i go to uni? no. do i hold down a highly responsible technical job ? yes. you decide.
This thing about outing myself, i,m 6' 4", stand at the back of the cowshed just slightly to the sinclair st end of the half way line beside the pow guys. I go to most away games with my 2 kids and anyone who knows me calls me big doc surprisingly enough. My only connection with the club is as a supporter, although i do have good contacts within the club cool.gif and i know what happened on the sunday tongue.gif

I already knew most of that Doc. There isn't much Mortonjag doesn't know, and his contacts and sources are generally very reliable.

You're a good guy who has the future of the club at heart-JUST AS MORTONJAG DOES.

Maybe the time has come as a responsible adult to dissociate yourself from the now pointlessly childish game of 'Jag baiting'. It does not become a man of your maturity. Leave it to the remaining hard core of 'infants' who have clearly no perception of any kind beyond their next meal and the hope that one day they will 'get their hole'.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 12:47:24
QUOTE(EBu @ Sep 25 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]518033[/snapback]
Thats all fine by me, however I think people need to make a decision either way. Either keep it to yourself and your trusted friends or come out and say it.

As someone whose main link to finding out about Morton is this board its incredibly frustrating to have snippets of information, followed by 20 posts of nudge nudge wink wink.

As I say I think you are absolutely correct to keep information to yourself if thats your perogative, however dont dangle a carrot then pull it away.

It's neither dangling a carrot, nor was it ever intended that way EBu.

Posters are entirely at liberty to comment on privileged information without breaching confidentiality. That is ENTIRELY DIFFERENT from deliberately spreading unfounded rumours.

As Barbie and others have commented, if you are trusted by others, p.m. them.

This forum is not at any given time populated entirely by people who have the genuine interests of Morton at heart. TiD has alluded to some of the reasons why. We appear to have almost reached the revolution stage regarding the crass incompetence of the secret society at Scapa. This is a time when the remaining Rae satellites will attempt even harder to adulterate our forum with their undercover filth.

'I know something but I'm not telling' (any Tom Dick or Harry) is sometimes the only available course of action.

mortonjag 2008-09-25 12:57:09
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 25 2008, 12:18 PM) [snapback]518040[/snapback]
an option you could have added was chucking away games...

We're getting good at that!

QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Sep 25 2008, 12:44 PM) [snapback]518061[/snapback]
I'll never chuck it I don't think. It's in my blood now. My going to games has so little to do with the football on the park now, it's the connection I have with the club. Hard to put it into words I suppose.

Those are also my feelings. I'm a Morton supporter-not a supporter of players, Managers, or Board members.

As a wee aside, every time there has been criticism of the establishment, the argument has been trotted out that this forum is 'not truly representative of Morton fans'.

If the early poll results are anything to go on, it looks as if the forum members ARE the true Morton fans. The rest prefer to vote with their feet.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 13:02:21
QUOTE(Savo @ Sep 24 2008, 11:21 PM) [snapback]517869[/snapback]
That's a wee bit harsh mj, no one is perfect but I think Chick does actually have a genuine soft spot for Morton and has spoken about it often enough.

During the Save The Ton campaign he went well above and beyond the call of duty for us by turning out for Dukla Pumpherston in the challenge game against supporters before we played the St Mirren fundraiser @ Cappielow.

His son had just died in the motorbike accident but the game had been arranged beforehand, and the guy insisted he still wanted to turn up and help Morton out. I remember sending him a thank-you letter as STT secretary for doing that at such a difficult time.

He also wrote supportive articles on the BBC to highlight the club's plight at the time as well - and I think he is a member of your favourite supporters' organisation, the GMST (well he certainly was at one time anyway). I think he's a decent guy whose heart is in the right place.

Chick is in my opinion a complete and utter fud who is a past master of the art of winning approbation when it suits him.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 13:17:59
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Sep 25 2008, 07:13 AM) [snapback]517928[/snapback]
McGowan IS, or certainly WAS, realistic. Don't be petty. We very nearly had him permanently.

Rae spent the whole of that closed season utterly obsessed with the notion that he only had to sign Gowsa and all would be well with the boys who were 'going to take us forward'.

Even when it became obvious that Celtic were playing 'silly buggers', he pursued his obsessive goal, to rare criticism from Jim McInally.

Many things happened (or perhaps 'didn't happen') during that closed season. Several opportunities were either blown or scorned.

I'd love a player like Gowsa in the squad NOW-we DESPERATELY need a play maker. Chris Millar could be doing the job, if he hadn't been pissed on from on high. Jamie Stevenson's original form at Alloa suggests that he is still capable of fulfilling the role, but he too is a 'persona non grata' midget!

We have fully three months before the transfer window re-opens, and a week is a long time in football. It just seems a bit premature to be discussing this. I'm much more interested in things like who will be our Manager in a month's time, and when will we hear the truth about Alistair Donald, and will Rae finally pack it in before it's too late.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 13:41:47
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Sep 25 2008, 01:09 PM) [snapback]518085[/snapback]
are you the real mj ? how can you say that... that is completely stupid to assume that the REAL fans are the forum members... I canty belive that is really you is it mj... are you on holiday and letting the wife post ?????

Aye it's really me warrior!

All I'm suggesting is that the real FANS tend to use the forum-the crazy mad FANATICS who will keep going to matches even if we're losing every one, because they're FANS.

There are plenty of 'more sensible' Morton supporters I'd imagine. I just prefer to be in the crazy gang, and given that almost everybody can access the internet nowadays I DO believe that this forum is strongly representative of true FANS. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-25 13:59:04
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Sep 25 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]518098[/snapback]
Two points......IF chris was pi55ed on from above it certainly wasnt the club...get your facts right, which leads me to point 2..yur sig!!!! the " dont they hate us when we tell the truth.."should be changed to " I really know fck all about fck all, but cannae keep my effin gub shut cause am a cannae auld tosser and am nae satisfied till av moaned ma festerin mooth aff aboot every issue possible...relevant or not!!!! blah blah blah.."
thats better.. rolleyes.gif

What a strange post Vader. Why do I have this terribly uncomfortable feeling that YOU think you know more than me just because you are perhaps party to a little inside information.

The truth is Vader that I know a hell of a lot more than 'f*ck all' about 'goings on' and you, my good chap, resent that. mad.gif

I'd like you to PROVE that Chris was not 'pissed on' since you challenge my opinion which is based on information I received from a reliable source at the time of the original transfer negotiations, and refers to specific aspects of Chris's contract.

Telling me that you are Mr Rae's love child, Donkey Dave's stable boy, Shimmin Ton's apprentice keech shoveller, Mabawsa Ritchie's manuensis, or indeed that you recently shagged some Club employee just won't wash I'm afraid.

Everything I've ever stated I can prove, and will, as and when I deem that either appropriate or necessary.

I object to your type of posting at this stage-it is unhelpful, and will be perceived as exactly what it is-another unwarranted and vicious attack on one poster by another who hates him when he tells the truth. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-25 14:15:25
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Sep 25 2008, 01:05 PM) [snapback]518080[/snapback]
ffs , and I thought you were the knight in shining armour who spoke out in order for the truth to be heard by ALL morton fans, so what now MJ.. are you so satisfied with the numbers on here who agree with you now, that you dont want to upset the apple cart... if YOU know something I would have expected YOU to let us all know, but I am dissapointed in you if in fact you do know and are afraid now to speak out in the open as you have ALWAYS asked others to do previously... I dont know anyone on this board, so tell me then who would trust me ? no one would, but I as a fan would like to know whats going on, if it is as is made out on this thread so bloody big...

It's perfectly simple warrior! I have perhaps been a little outspoken now and again, but all of the information I have is from trusted sources, and not based on personal involvement. For that reason I regard it as proper that I leave the divulging of information to them, as and when they see fit, OR if they authorise me to release it, I certainly will.

QUOTE(EBu @ Sep 25 2008, 01:07 PM) [snapback]518083[/snapback]
I'm really not berating folk for holding onto their info, I think they are doing the right thing. However I just don’t see the need to divulge that something happened on such and such a date then go silent on the matter. I don’t feel it is conductive to this board in general.

All thats happened now is that us not in the know are concerned that something highly significant has happened and we have no way of finding out.

As for sending someone a PM, in truth I know no-one on this board personally. I messaged another member and was told to ask someone else and that is fair enough as he doesn't know me from Adam.

End of the day I am just a concerned fan who wants to know whats happening at my club.

Have another read at Tid's original posting.

If this forum merely and genuinely represented all colours of Morton fan opinion-and debate is healthy-much more would be 'out in the open' The fact is that the establishment resents the very existence of our massage board, and it is infiltrated with 'spies' and troublemakers.

Have a look at the Gowsa thread. You will see exactly what I mean! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-25 14:21:41
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Sep 25 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]518117[/snapback]
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I guess that means that Dougie has nothing to fear about crowds dropping off then since the board which is almost fully representative of the Morton support says they'll keep going no matter what.

What a bizarre and illogical comment! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-25 14:31:11
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 25 2008, 01:04 PM) [snapback]518076[/snapback]
I am more than willing to prove my hetero credentials with MrsTon wub.gif

Having a ginormous willie and baws like grapefruits proves nothing! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-25 14:33:08
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 24 2008, 04:43 PM) [snapback]517616[/snapback]
the exit gate

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QUOTE(Boozehound @ Sep 25 2008, 01:51 PM) [snapback]518118[/snapback]
Is smoking not bad for you?

Not if you are already dead. Many of the inhabitants of my cellar have been subjected to smoke.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 14:37:25 It's not art but it's damned CRAFTY! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-25 14:39:46
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 24 2008, 05:54 PM) [snapback]517644[/snapback]
No, I was suggesting that Vikington was your boyfriend. You know Vikington? He's the guy you've been sparring with lately. I said SPARRING WITH!! Have you got your hearing aid in? I SAID HAVE YOU GOT YOUR HEARING AID IN??????

EH
mortonjag 2008-09-25 14:46:41
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 25 2008, 11:14 AM) [snapback]518010[/snapback]
ys without derisory pay offers from your employer. It's a big slap in the face to the workers.
ohmy.gif Shocking statement mate. I must inform you that we also have electricity, and central heating wink.gif

....and Mortonjag who once went on strike! FACT.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 14:54:30
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Sep 25 2008, 02:40 PM) [snapback]518149[/snapback]
Maybe going off in a tangent a wee bit, but re the 'bring a friend' look at the prices for the Arsenal v Sheffield United cup game the other night - tenner for adults and a fiver for kids.
Maybe some sort of incentive like this, or the Thistle under 16s free entry, would boost the crowd.

Indeed!

It now seems a VERY long time since I heard the argument in support of Rae that 'He's an experienced businessman'.

I see the Trust just chucked him another (albeit small) donation which will be swallowed up as though he has a God given right to it, and of course he has absolutely no interest in a properly set up Youth System, when he'll be pushing up the daisies before it kicks in properly! dry.gif

He's been frightening off his paying customers for far too long. The tide turned some time ago and he still can't see it.

mortonjag 2008-09-25 14:58:19
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 25 2008, 02:36 PM) [snapback]518146[/snapback]
Sent that PM tae the wrong place.. blush.gif

No need to blush-I have a little chamber which will comfortably accommodate your luggage!
mortonjag 2008-09-25 14:59:29 Scrabble-educational and non confrontational (normally!!!).
mortonjag 2008-09-25 15:34:54
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 25 2008, 03:20 PM) [snapback]518174[/snapback]
Details??

I KNEW you'd ask. We withdrew our labour for one day when Medical Examiners at the Benefits Agency hadn't been paid by the new agency bosses. The cheques were in the post within a few hours. They had been 'at it' for two months. dry.gif

Only one pathetic creature refused to 'walk out'. His allocation of 'cases' dwindled away to nothing in a matter of weeks! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-25 15:39:25
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 25 2008, 03:30 PM) [snapback]518176[/snapback]
I have received a few PMs today about 31 August.

At least that is an improvement on people posting that they could not PM me.

However, to those of you who PMed today, I need to apologise, as it seems that I have upset someone/something.

The error returned was:

You are not allowed to use the messenger feature on this board.

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

sad.gif sad.gif

You ARE using it if you're receiving-it's a glitch with your sending. Is your 'sent messages' box full? Check with Edinton! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-25 15:41:45
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 25 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]518179[/snapback]
I tend to play it with the wee coloured discs.
/coat

Wee coloured circular coat?
mortonjag 2008-09-25 15:43:25
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 25 2008, 03:41 PM) [snapback]518182[/snapback]
you have an email - sent 20 minutes ago.

I already said 'No'! I've gone off that kind of thing since I met port ton.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 16:02:21
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 25 2008, 03:49 PM) [snapback]518184[/snapback]
How long ago was this MJ?

Eight years or so. The parent company at the time was a French outfit called SEMA!
mortonjag 2008-09-25 16:09:10
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 25 2008, 03:51 PM) [snapback]518186[/snapback]
I must say young Monkey has been looking very smart lately but he seems to have aged somewhat? mellow.gif

He has simply been unmasked! blush.gif

QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 25 2008, 03:53 PM) [snapback]518188[/snapback]
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That's very cruel, mortonjag.

Very, very cruel.

I know that Port Ton is far closer to you than I.
... 10,524 miles closer.


And I cannot even work out when he/she is male and when he/she is female.

How am I supposed to compete ?

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And he/she is probably younger than I as well.

And the Ton have not won a league match all season - woe is I.

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Don't take it personally Newt-I've knocked back Beermonkey eight times and he still pesters me!
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 25 2008, 03:55 PM) [snapback]518189[/snapback]
It's kinda late in Oz to be posting at this time Mr Question mark boy!
I've decided I don't give a f*ck about the wee boys and their story. At the end of the day anyone can say they know something then just sit back until something does happen......and then shout out "I told you so".

I'll continue too turn up at Cappielow with the blinkers on to support my shi**y team...

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mortonjag 2008-09-25 16:10:15
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 25 2008, 04:08 PM) [snapback]518196[/snapback]
laugh.gif soul of course, your PM arrived but I can't get a reply off to you cobber!

Cobbler?
mortonjag 2008-09-25 16:13:32
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 25 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]518200[/snapback]
Has he only got one? Do you walk with a limp Newt? happy.gif

I jog with a one legged frog.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 16:23:56
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 25 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]518203[/snapback]
Gidday 44 Tonne,

Only after one of my 3 day iyengar yoga retreats in the Hunter Valley.

Last one, there were 14 yogis ... and I was the token male.

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Oh c'mon Newt-yer baws may be half the size they once were and yer willie a mere worm compared to that wondrous phallus of your youth but 'token male'?
You've still got plenty on offer!





































BTW-did you shag all fouteen? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-25 16:29:20
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 25 2008, 04:26 PM) [snapback]518205[/snapback]
Certainly
not !!!

A few of them play for the other team.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

And I am not into conversions.

At least not since I played rugger at the Academy.

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We played RUGBY at the Grammar! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-25 16:38:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 25 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]518210[/snapback]
You are just trying to upset me even more.

The thought of you in your Paisley strip.

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Get off to your hussy.

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And please answer my email before you leave to see him/her.

8 a.m tomorrow our time-if that's OK! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-25 17:12:47
QUOTE(btb @ Sep 25 2008, 01:53 PM) [snapback]518121[/snapback]
As a neutral outsider cool.gif who likes to keep an eye on Morton & Div. 1 (just in case) I reckoned David Irons was a poor choice as a manager and intial results didn't convince me that I was wrong.

A couple of late season wins against Dunfermline & PT who were safely mid-table by then didn't convince me otherwise. A poor start to the season (in the league anyway) and I see questions are being asked about Irons again.

Your chairman, Rae has a record of being loyal to his managers however after the Dunfermline game Morton have the double header with Ross County to end the first quarter followed by a home game against Clyde. If Morton are still bottom after these games would Morton fans want DI and/or Derek Collins sacked? Would a Challenge Cup Final place give him breathing space in this eventuality?



As a neutral outsider you obviously have failed to grasp the fact that Morton fans would let the Chairman piss in their mouths without batting an eyelid.

David Irons is the best thing since sliced bread. Don't be fooled by the lowly league position-it's a ruse to throw neutral outsiders off the scent. Come February we'll be challenging for promotion, or I have a gangrenous left goolie.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 17:15:06
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 25 2008, 05:00 PM) [snapback]518219[/snapback]
sorted that for you. smile.gif

What age does one have to be to become one of those twats?.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 17:18:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 25 2008, 05:16 PM) [snapback]518228[/snapback]
Is that not taught in medical school at proper universities ?

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They never mentioned twats Newt-do they grow in mountains which have conveniently shrunk to molehill proportions?
mortonjag 2008-09-25 17:20:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 25 2008, 05:19 PM) [snapback]518233[/snapback]
Australia ?

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Shimmin Ton?
mortonjag 2008-09-25 17:28:58
QUOTE(ShimminTon @ Sep 25 2008, 05:21 PM) [snapback]518235[/snapback]
Why would they know? huh.gif

1. Nach0 isn't a Mod.
2. Edinton has abandoned his duties.

You stick to commenting about Cappielow and leave judgements on the performance of our excellent Moderators to me!

Edinton has NEVER abandoned his duties. I have carefully scanned his contract of employment with himself and assure you you are making a mountain out of a molehill.

Does your contract of employment to Mr Rae oblige you to attempt to defend the Club against the indefensible?
mortonjag 2008-09-25 18:01:34
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Sep 25 2008, 05:31 PM) [snapback]518240[/snapback]
ach ditch this he knows i knows nothing pish...

what did happen on the 31st august anyway? dry.gif

OK-and I take absolutely no responsibility for this.

Davie Irons was really getting on the players tits big style. He was apparently making them work far too hard at training, and blaming them individually for poor performances. Then came the Airdrie game. The story goes that all hell broke loose thereafter. Mr Rae wasn't a happy bunny and made sure everybody knew just exactly what he thought of them.

Davie Irons insisted that they all turn up the next day for a very serious de-briefing-a meeting where everybody expected a rollicking. The squad was instructed to turn up outside Cappielow for 9.00 a.m. on the dot.

They all arrived in plenty of time and when he appeared with Derek Collins, Irons said they would have to go indoors as matters to be discussed were not for public consumption. They were instructed to assemble in the Board Room, and that was when everything went totally topsy turvy.








































Apparently they were stunned to silence by the sight of Mr Rae playing naked table tennis with Gillian Donaldson.

Cappie was reportedly keeping the score though he was fully clothed, while the Club Chaplain was said to be beaming benignly in his dog collar and a corner, as he recited from the book of Psalms-



Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
I will fear no evil: For thou art with me;
Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me
.

When all of a sudden a big mealy puddin' came flyin' through the air

Did he duck, did he f*ck, it hit him fair and square.




THAT'S ALL FOLKS
mortonjag 2008-09-25 18:17:30
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 25 2008, 06:11 PM) [snapback]518264[/snapback]
Corrected for you. (In good jest, of course wink.gif smile.gif )

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mortonjag 2008-09-25 18:20:14
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 25 2008, 12:33 PM) [snapback]518054[/snapback]
When is it ok to use the long ball? we have been discussing it lots on here is it ever ok to use it

I thought they were all spherical.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 18:23:57
QUOTE(MaxTon1874 @ Sep 25 2008, 05:47 PM) [snapback]518254[/snapback]
Not sure about that question and will be interesting to see what the real answer will be come the next four games if we loss them all. To be hounest i don't think it will matter if we had sir alex ferguson as manager, at the end of the day we need more quality in our starting 11 every week and we dont have that stregnth to be a feard club. Every chance we try and bring in a good player they don't come and theres always a problem, its as if no one wants to come to morton.

I think theres a bigger problem than just pointing the finger at Irons but who knows ? the only person who can know is dougie rolleyes.gif .

He's been posting already today-why not send him a p.m?
mortonjag 2008-09-25 18:25:59
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 25 2008, 06:24 PM) [snapback]518274[/snapback]
I they are using it in conjuction with those long afternoons and evenings laugh.gif

How much longer is it than the ordinary ball?
mortonjag 2008-09-25 18:42:58
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 25 2008, 06:32 PM) [snapback]518278[/snapback]
I have a feeling Irons wont be given the time other managers have had, again my feelings are that DDF will sack Irons in an attempt to appease the fans sooner rather than later in an attempt to buy himself some time before the whole support turns on him. TBH I think sacking Irons would be the wrong decision and If DDF wants to help he can start with staying out the dressing room pre-match and allowing Irons to take the pre-match warm up uninterrupted.

You seem to be suggesting that nothing has really changed behind the scenes. One thing I had hoped and believed was that DI would have the baws to make the Management job his and his alone.

That's not really been borne out by Mr. Rae strolling on to the pitch for 'pre-match' chats at away games. It's become very obvious to me at least that DI is VERY edgy right now-possibly he has too much basic sincerity to handle 'piggy in the middle' something which with native cunning JM found 'nae bother'!!!
mortonjag 2008-09-25 19:20:20
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 25 2008, 07:15 PM) [snapback]518305[/snapback]
just use your real name FFS laugh.gif

I'd go for-erm Pinky-of Pinky and Perky fame.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 19:22:19
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 25 2008, 07:16 PM) [snapback]518306[/snapback]
I would hope that Irons is here for a good while I don't think the squad is big enough but we still should be doing better than we are at the moment . If Dougie has still not learned his lesson to stay out the dressing room then it won't matter who sits in that chair if Dougie interfers its he who needs to change .

Rae will NEVER change. Mortonton will confirm that! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-25 19:23:27
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 25 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]518300[/snapback]
At one point the other night I thought that some of our players were conducting an experiment to disprove the laws of gravity . unsure.gif

Was Spoonsy fleein'?
mortonjag 2008-09-25 19:52:05
QUOTE(Wonko the Sane @ Sep 25 2008, 07:30 PM) [snapback]518313[/snapback]
Dear MJ
This is to inform you that I have arranged for your admission to Glasgow Royal Infirmary on 1st February 2009 for removal of your left testis. Having thoroughly assessed the treatment options, I am afraid that conservative management via improved results for GMFC looks unlikely to be an option. Also, to save on anaesthetics, you will be shown a video of the Morton - QOS game at Cappielow on 13th September. The procedure will be performed while you are asleep.
Yours, Dr Juan Ghoulie, Consultant Surgeon

Dear Dr Ghoulie,

I am most grateful for you prompt attention. There is but one slight problem-namely that my right testis is the one affected by necrosis, and by Feb 1st 2009 will undoubtedly be gone completely. Do you still wish me to attend for surgery?
mortonjag 2008-09-25 19:53:26
QUOTE(mortonton @ Sep 25 2008, 07:27 PM) [snapback]518312[/snapback]
Well I though it was about time I popped my cherry as it were and no one else was exactly queueing up to spill the beans! biggrin.gif

So using that analagy MJ then maybe pinky is quite apt! tongue.gif

Are you a perky copulator?
mortonjag 2008-09-25 20:07:09
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Sep 25 2008, 07:53 PM) [snapback]518319[/snapback]
If that is all that happened, what a let down. Team are playing crap, some players are not happy, woop de do! rolleyes.gif

That and the naked table tennis Your Majesty-don't forget the naked table tennis. Gillian apparently asked Mr Rae if he was 'up for it', to which he replied 'Yes, but I will bring a friend (that's where the Minister fits in). Poor Cappie just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, though his tail escaped for once. The big mealy puddin' which came flyin' through the air was actually a long ball from Ryan harding, and so far nobody has mentioned the fact that the laundry boy was keeking oot the top of one of his baskets which they'd forgotten to lock in the basement for the weekend beside Jimmy Cowan's boot. There's much more to the story actually, but others are privy to the more juicy bits.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 20:09:58
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Sep 25 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]518323[/snapback]
I won't chuck it, but it is getting harder and harder to watch us. I have ran out of ways to justify parting with hard earned cash to see the majority of our players stroll about like they would rather be somewhere else. If the long ball worked for us, and we were getting results, I would not have a problem with it. But, it isn't getting us anywhere. We aren't scoring from it, and we are not watertight at the back yet. Shimmin must be asking himself why he joined.
I don't watch Morton to be entertained. As I have said many times I will take a 4-5-1 formation and a 1-0 Ton win over a 3-4-3 formation and a 3-3 draw. If I want entertaining football I sit on the couch and flick onto Sky Sports or Setanta.
And it's not the defeats that are frustrating me. It is the lack of effort from most players, the lack of fire in the belly. The lack of pride in wearing the blue and white hoops. If we got beaten 4-0, I would be gutted, but if I knew that the 11 men playing for Morton had given 110% for the full 90 minutes, I would proudly clap them off the pitch. I think most fans are the same. To support a team outside the OF, you need to handle defeat. Most of us can handle defeat, what we cannot handle, is a defeatist attitude amonst the players.
Things have to change. I'm not 100% sure exactly what has to change, but if it isn't fixed soon, we will be back down where we struggled to escape from for so long.

You appear to be suggesting that the players are unmotivated.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 20:12:31
QUOTE(forza ton @ Sep 25 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]518324[/snapback]
there are certain workers who are exempt. for instance people who provide 24 hour care i.e. someone who has learning difficulties with no family may live in sheltered accommodation. the staff in such establishments are exempt from strike action as the residents would have no cover. fair do's. i work in a day centre for adults with learning difficulties. when i strike it causes disruption (as strikes are meant to do) but there certainly wont be any deaths ya feckin drama queen.

what would you suggest my colleagues and i do to gain a wage rise which is at least in line with inflation? the old"i'm not the union rep" line doesn't wash here. if you can hit us with a guilt trip for trying to improve our conditions then you can at least hit us with an alternative. or is this just a "you say black , i'll say white" argument?

If emergency services are valued so much, you'd imagine they'd be paid well enough never to think about strike action!
mortonjag 2008-09-25 20:21:50
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Sep 25 2008, 08:11 PM) [snapback]518329[/snapback]
That would have been more exciting. Honestly, why all the cloak and dagger stuff, jeez, i thought they actually had some right juicy piece of gossip. rolleyes.gif

There appears to be more than one version of the story. In fairness to the posters who 'knew' I reckon they DID believe that three first team players reacting like that to a Manager only months in his job was indeed pretty serious. I also believe that if any of the posters who knew really 'had it in for the club' the story would have been out long ago.

IMHO there is serious unrest behind closed doors at Cappielow. I think Mr Rae yet again opted for a rookie Manager whom he believed could be manipulated, and I suspect that Mr Irons has sacrificed the respect of his playing staff in an attempt to prove to his Master that he can achieve the unattainable.

One poster is already suggesting that his job may be 'on the line'. I'd imagine a great deal now hangs on Saturday's result.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 20:22:53
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 25 2008, 08:19 PM) [snapback]518334[/snapback]
If that was the extent of it then you lot with your I-know-something-the-rest-of-you-don't pish are way more f***ing mental than I thought you were. And believe me, I've always thought you were REALLY mental. You're now off the scale.
If this is true then excellent; Weatherson is pish, McManus is a complete joke, Jenkins is a good second division player at best and McAllister has flattered to deceive for about four seasons. Great. I'd get rid of the lot of them. None of them are fit to wear the shirt.

You are beginning to sound like me, Peter.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 20:38:33
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 25 2008, 08:34 PM) [snapback]518351[/snapback]
McAllister isn't that good, if he was he'd be well gone by now. He's the best player we have but honestly, that's like being the worlds tallest dwarf.

I sincerely hope we get humped on Saturday, the sooner Irons and Collins are gone the better. Worst managerial appointment by Rae so far, probably worse than McPherson. Then Rae's mind might be focused on the utter horror of his customer base.

I'm sure Jim McInally would come back if we asked him nicely!
mortonjag 2008-09-25 20:43:26
QUOTE(forza ton @ Sep 25 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]518354[/snapback]
i don't know anything about the lollipop men striking. the council chiefs themselves could come out of their smart offices and do a stint for them. as for kids getting a hot meal - i'm sure they'll be fine on a packed lunch that day and if not their parents can let their councillor know how unhappy they are with the situation and thus strengthen the strikers position.

They would need someone to carry the lollipop, someone to clean the lollipop, someone to check the writing on the lollipop, plus a time keeper, and personal assistant to take the notes.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 20:45:57
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 25 2008, 08:37 PM) [snapback]518353[/snapback]
mortonton why don't you tell us the real reason Newby went away on loan, I believe it to be linked to that day as well. unsure.gif

Pinky called Perky a POUFFE, and Jon thought it was directed at him.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 21:04:14
QUOTE(Capuan @ Sep 25 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]518364[/snapback]
Or perhaps the next 2 results?

How long is a piece of string?

It seems to me there are three 'factions' involved: The Chairman, the Management, and the squad.

In normal circumstances that would be a direct line of delegation, but delegation doesn't happen at Cappielow-THAT IS INDISPUTABLE- so Rae is probably telling Irons what he wants done and exactly how to do it, Irons is telling the players exactly what to do and how to do it, and Rae is telling the players exactly what to do and how to do it behind Davie Irons back, and they probably report back to MR Rae if they're unhappy about something and MR Rae again tells Mr Irons exactly what to do and how he wants it done, though it's not exactly what he wanted done before, because the players didn't do exactly what Mr Irons asked of them, etc., etc., etc.

HMM-that sounds like a load of keech.

Anyway the next few weeks should hopefully see improvement or change of some kind.
mortonjag 2008-09-26 06:47:59
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 25 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]518382[/snapback]
Christ, you did well to get your retaliation in first TID. Talking s***e indeed.

Don't start with the over the years patter either.

The people who received threats like the ones you've mentioned didn't give a flying fck about having your wee secrets. They went onto the Hippo's site and Andy's board and posted what they heard, their only concern was that the Morton support knew what was happening at our club.

If people didn't like what was posted, and many didn't, then that was their bag. At least they had the info.

The whole "we've had rocks thrown at us before" sketch doesn't wash either. If you want to look at the history of this board over the past couple of years you'll see that the people who get abuse for posting rumours are the ones who did exactly what started this thread. Came on with a nod and wink and gave it the I know something you don't patter.

Remember the whole "ohmyfuggingawd the whole squads handing in transfers request and 3 of them are going to Perth by the end of this week" debacle a couple of years ago? Same story.

Nods and winks from the Morton masonic then when the story eventually gets dragged out it somehow became everyone else's fault that the original poster was talking s***.

Afraid of being sued was the cry from MJ's gimp, unbelievable.

Honestly if this is over 3 players handing in a transfer request then you lot should hang your heads in shame, cowards.



I can only speak for myself Cawstick, and firstly I don't understand the use of the term 'gimp' in that sentence. Do you fully understand the meaning?

I have NEVER started a rumour on this forum, but have been subjected to DAILY and systematic abuse from all sides for stating fairly and unequivocally what I believe, and for discussing issues on the basis of confidential information which I have not been at liberty to publicise. Despite claims ad nauseam that I spout pish, I've been attacked to date by at least five insiders at Cappielow-all using aliases-and you have the cheek to talk about cowards!

If you cannot get your little head round the concept of confidentiality-I remember your pathetic jibes about-'go on publicise' in the past, I guess you are too late to learn.

Seems you have some gripe with TiD

OUT IN THE OPEN MY FRIEND-DID HE SHAG YER BURD?
Don't be a coward now-those things DO happen! laugh.gif

The events of 31st August, coming as they did (I am given to understand) hard on the heels of Rae going 'ABSOLUTELY BALLISTIC' at New Broomfield, and ladling into all and sundry including Crawford, were symptomatic of a VERY SERIOUS CRISIS at Morton.

That, more than for any other reason was why most people stayed quiet.

Are you privy to ANY information which entitles you to trivialise the genuine attempts of genuine posters to in some way help the club waken up and move into the 21st century?

If you are, then put up, or shut up and listen to those who are better informed and better equipped to decide exactly what they say and when they say it.
mortonjag 2008-09-26 07:04:44


QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Sep 25 2008, 10:39 PM) [snapback]518394[/snapback]
Terry Venables, Michael Laudrup, Sir Ben Kingsley and Chico have all thrown their hats in the ring. Mortonjag would have put his name forward but apparently he's going to be in London at the time.

Source?
mortonjag 2008-09-26 07:10:47
QUOTE(Wonko the Sane @ Sep 25 2008, 09:14 PM) [snapback]518377[/snapback]
Dear MJ.
This makes major surgery all the more imperative. Given this development, I suggest refraining from vocal outbursts at Cappielow in future. The high pitched nature of your cries of encouragement, abuse etc could result in serious structural damage to the stand, cowshed, floodlights and Mr Rae's hearing aid.

Then I shall cry louder and harder than ever in the hope that the whole thing falls down. The Mickey Mouse share issue might rapidly evolve into full control from Mr Donald and a fresh start for us all.

Mr Rae never wears a hearing aid-indeed he regards the ears God gave him as mere appendages with no physiological function.
mortonjag 2008-09-26 07:16:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 26 2008, 07:07 AM) [snapback]518442[/snapback]
Tomato ?

Or as it's London ... HP ?

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Mary had a little lamb
'Twas weaned on Yorkshire relish
And every time it farted
The smell was something hellish!

I wrote that specially for Satan's Husband, a man celebrated locally for his inimitable expertise in poking the fire.
mortonjag 2008-09-26 07:28:21
QUOTE(foxy @ Sep 25 2008, 11:16 PM) [snapback]518405[/snapback]
The only Gay TV i watch is girl on girl....

How dare you try to blacken my name

FOXY LADY! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-26 07:35:03
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 26 2008, 12:57 AM) [snapback]518431[/snapback]
Brahmanic cultures concerning self denial, celibacy and resisting temptation make as little sense to me as their Christian equivalents. Ghandi was seriously weird, no doubt, but you might be a bit mischievous in drawing comparisons between him and GG. If Ghandi was a nonce, then damn him to hell, but are the stories (gleaned from wikipedia I presume) true or false? If Ghandi did sleep with his 19 year old niece, did he only sleep? Was it self denial, self abuse, or (worse) sexual abuse of another? If it was abuse, maybe he and contemporary consensual opinion didn't consider it to be so, given the prevailing cultural and religious background. On second thoughts, feck that phoney baloney analysis, abuse is abuse, and remember that in places such as Mexico, girls as young as 12 can be 'given' into marriage with the 'blessing' of the church.

............and in a 'natural habitat' (presumably God given!) animals tend to procreate according to natural instinct with no specific upper or lower age limits.
mortonjag 2008-09-26 09:36:04 Mary had a little lamb
A succulent wee chop
She went to see a Morton match
And spewed the f*ckin' lot.
mortonjag 2008-09-26 12:25:03
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 26 2008, 11:36 AM) [snapback]518518[/snapback]
Gretna had a lovely dream,
Flew through the leagues like dancers,
Despite their gold, the f***ers fold,
And sold us all their chancers.

TonInDublin

The helicopter's o'er the graves
The streets are full of sirens
I've heard it said that Rae is dead-
The cops are after Irons
mortonjag 2008-09-26 12:28:32
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 26 2008, 11:42 AM) [snapback]518522[/snapback]
Depends how one defines 'real' and/or 'true' I think. Is a real / true fan one who will:
Support Morton through thick and thin without ever criticizing?
Support Morton through thick and thin but feels a duty to criticise when due?
Support Morton through thick and thin, feels a duty to criticise, but prefers not to do so in public?
My answer would be all three I think, the common denominator being 'Support Morton through thick and thin'. By support I mean, for locals: going to as many games that they are able to; and for exiles: supporting / following the club in the best way that they can.
There are a few on this board who, I suspect, do not, and many more not on this board who do.

No it doesn't Mr Edwards, and of course I say so with due respect.

My post was with reference to the definition of FAN-not of 'true' or 'real'! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-26 12:31:33
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 26 2008, 11:37 AM) [snapback]518519[/snapback]
Oh Dear, Oh dear, look at the situation we are all in. Fighting among ourselves AGAIN. sad.gif

smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-26 12:34:48
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 26 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]518531[/snapback]
NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! mad.gif
I'm sick of Morton being a starter club for managers. I want experience!!! I want a leader. I want someone who will kick arses all over the place. I want someone who is not a poodle for Rae.

CORRECT
mortonjag 2008-09-26 12:45:55
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 26 2008, 12:37 PM) [snapback]518537[/snapback]
OK, I sit corrected. Definition of FAN it is then.

noun
1. any device for producing a current of air by the movement of a broad surface or a number of such surfaces
mortonjag 2008-09-26 12:48:25
QUOTE(CJTon @ Sep 26 2008, 12:44 PM) [snapback]518539[/snapback]
It is a pity that we have to be negative about everything at the moment.

My take on tuesday night was that despite not playing to the best of our ability (as we showed against Hibs a few weeks ago) we were still beating an SPL club till fairly late on. Now I have heard it mentioned that ICT were not very good but hang on a minute they are currently mid table in the SPL so maybe they might just have a bit of dig to them to get out of these situations.

It will always be the case that a team losing in the Cup to lower league opposition is going to really take the game to them in the latter stages. I presume that DI expected this, looked at his midfield and saw that certain players were a luxury at that stage of the game and therefore had to make changes. He sees the guys in training and knows who is fit and who is not. Unfortunately at the mo it is maybe that Stevie Masterton can't make a full 90 mins and that is why he was hooked. Yes I and most others probably thought it should have been the gentle giant in midfield who should have come off as apart from his throw ins he was doing nothing and was in danger of getting sent off.

At the end of the day I am just not sure how much of a negative effect the substitutions had on the outcome of the game.

I spoke to ICT's assistant manager after the game and he said we had given them a real fright and that we had a good team out on the park.....so maybe we aren't far from turning the corner. A couple of wins and we are back in the pack in what is a very tight league.

Here's hoping the team surprise everybody and come out fighting (no not amongst themselves) on Saturday and take three very valuable points. It will be hard as Dunfermline are a slightly different proposition to last year but lets get behind the team and maybe just maybe........

So you don't think DI's in any immediate danger?
mortonjag 2008-09-26 13:12:05
QUOTE(CJTon @ Sep 26 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]518544[/snapback]
As he is working in a results driven business I would be a fool (and very naive) to think that there is not some risk to his job if league wins do not start to materialise.

Just trying to take a positive outlook.

If we get a good victory tomorrow that would be extremely positive for all concerned.
mortonjag 2008-09-26 13:40:57
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Sep 26 2008, 01:21 PM) [snapback]518557[/snapback]
I'd like experience too, but we all know that Rae's hardly a genius when it comes to appointing managers.

HMM-I tend to disagree with that. I think Mr Rae has very carefully chosen managers whom he did believe could produce, but ultimately whom he thought would be 'tame'.
mortonjag 2008-09-26 13:55:44
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Sep 26 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]518586[/snapback]
ah ! shut yer fan laugh.gif

You shut yours matey or you may be joining my avatar in the bowels of my cellar.
mortonjag 2008-09-26 13:57:33
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Sep 26 2008, 01:55 PM) [snapback]518589[/snapback]
But that's not what MJ wants to hear is it? MJ's got his own agenda, and one day he might just make me angry enough that I may just make it public on here. mad.gif

Oh go on Anus-I know you're desperate to tell them our little secret! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-26 14:36:38
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Sep 26 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]518598[/snapback]
this is going to sound really dumb.. but I dont care.. what is an 'avatar'.. is it the wee picture under your name ?? and last thing what does this... ph34r.gif mean ?

thanks in advance for all your help smile.gif

It means your name's on Fing's hit list! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-26 14:41:54
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 26 2008, 02:14 PM) [snapback]518600[/snapback]
The problems on the Sunday where imo blew out of proportion. This was a clear the air which did not do as intended. the names differ slightly from the original poster as i was not aware of McAllister wanting out. Nor did I hear Weatherson wanting away. I was merely shocked at the time that players seem to have such a high opinion of themselves.

The beans that have been spilled is not what i am WORRIED about. I am not going to go on and say I know something someone else doesn't but my WORRIES have been going on for 3 years now and it will come to a head sooner or later. More likely sooner.

Quite simply things have got to the stage of 'None so blind as those who will not see'.

Greenock Morton is foundering and the Master of the ship is Rae.

End of story.
mortonjag 2008-09-26 14:45:35
QUOTE(cmdc @ Sep 26 2008, 02:00 PM) [snapback]518594[/snapback]
I'm not sure about that...not all the time anyway. I don't think he could have expected Cormack and Cowboy to be tame...and I think the managers who followed, McPherson and McInally, were as much reactions to what had been before as they were puppets or similar.

Cormack was the popular choice, McPherson just plain silly. Cowboy seemed the sensible choice at the time, and McInally was recommended to him directly by Martin O'Neill, which must have been fairly a persuasive reference. As for Irons, he had a good reputation coming into the job, even taking into account his spell in charge in the SPL. On paper, I can see the logic behind each appointment, with the exception of McPherson, at the time they were appointed. Hindsight of course tells a slightly different story.

I'm assuming that Mr Rae DID interview the candidates. He would not have picked somebody whom he thought he couldn't 'control'.

QUOTE(Malt @ Sep 26 2008, 02:35 PM) [snapback]518609[/snapback]
Lets be honest here, McInally was one of O'neills coaches, do you really think he is going to say to Rae "He is pish, don't appoint him as your manager, far too defensive, no tactical knowledge...." Of course he will give him a good write up.

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mortonjag 2008-09-26 14:50:01
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 26 2008, 02:34 PM) [snapback]518608[/snapback]
Genuine frontier gibberish from the Jag.

Despite what you believe the world and this board doesn't revolve around you Jaggie, maybe of you took that on board occasionally you'd realise that my comments weren't directed at you.

Of course the board revolves around me Cawstick! FFS only a couple of days ago some Belgian bloke was wanting the Mods to give me a forum all to myself! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Oh-and you DEFINITELY appeared to have a gripe with TiD-witness his response!
mortonjag 2008-09-26 14:51:02
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Sep 26 2008, 02:43 PM) [snapback]518613[/snapback]
If you see Irons or the big Dougie, fancy asking them what happened on August 31st?

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mortonjag 2008-09-26 14:53:22
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 26 2008, 02:11 PM) [snapback]518599[/snapback]
Not what I expected from a videoclip about Swedish sisters. blush.gif

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That was the trailer. In the real film they strip naked and attack a herd of rampaging bulls.
mortonjag 2008-09-26 15:03:24
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 26 2008, 02:53 PM) [snapback]518623[/snapback]
The bit I've highlighted is what annoys me TID, I don't care who knows what. I really don't. What pisses me off is the small group of people on here who love to trumpet the fact that they're in the know but never deliver the goods. FWIW you're certainly not one of them.

I'm not talking about MJ either, for all he's a mad as a bag of cats I do believe that somewhere in the haze of paranoi he must have a point.

As for what MJ knows, to be honest I'm not interested. Believe me I'm surprised at myself being able to make that statement, there was a time I'd have bitten your hand off for that type of info.

Maybe that's because there's a bit of distance between me and Morton at the minute or maybe I'm still a bit drained with what happened in the past.

Either way it's his burden and it won't be mine until he puts the information into the public domain.

Mad as a bag of crazed ferrets indeed Cawstic, but not mad enough to miss the point that Rae has single handedly dragged the club down to where it is-that is the ONLY point that really matters-I've been making it for three seasons, and the truth has finally dawned on the majority.

Do you have any problem with that?
mortonjag 2008-09-26 15:06:43
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 26 2008, 02:59 PM) [snapback]518627[/snapback]
You are aware it's possible to have a gripe with someones opinions without having a gripe with the person themselves?

Jaggie?

Yes.
mortonjag 2008-09-26 15:09:04
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 26 2008, 02:59 PM) [snapback]518626[/snapback]
Having personally met the guy I can confirm he is a fud. No doubt he thought the same of me, no love lost as he certainly didn't like the craic about being a Rangers fan before being a Skunk on a plane to Amsterdam.

Don't think its sour grapes because he follows them, Bill Leckie whom i have met on a couple of occasions IS a decent bloke, even if he did steal my story (and admitted it in from of Jimmy Calderwood and Jimmy Bone). you can keep yer Chick.



I bumped into Chick several times when we both lived in Mr Bam land. In real life he's the epitome of fuddery, who just like yours truly will stop at nothing to be the centre of attention! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-26 15:12:48
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 26 2008, 03:08 PM) [snapback]518631[/snapback]
when was the peak then unsure.gif

I reckon the best we achieved was promotion to the Second-and even that took too long. Since then it's been one step forward and two back.
mortonjag 2008-09-26 15:19:38 If all the rumours and rumours of rumours are to be believed, Cappie's kittens are due on Christmas Eve at 7.23 p.m.


I believe we'll win this one because we've got to. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-26 15:25:45
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 26 2008, 03:19 PM) [snapback]518639[/snapback]
I'm of the opinion that that's all you want from this board, have been so for some time.
I told you, until you learn to share it's all your problem.

Well you told me wrong Cawstic!

1/ I don't and will never share privileged information until I have consent.

2/ I've never found that a problem in my Profession, and on this wee pubic massage board it's a complete dawdle.

I've been highly amused at the different ways in which my old detractors have backed down. Needless to say I've yet to receive a single apology for some of the completely OTT abuse I've taken from folk who should have known better than the insignificant idiots who didn't and never will.

That's not a problem either-just very amusing! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-26 15:38:29 Nikers.
mortonjag 2008-09-26 15:46:04
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 26 2008, 03:40 PM) [snapback]518647[/snapback]
Woops... laugh.gif Thoughts stray to your Aussie toadie there?

I told you two seasons ago that if you keep saying it long enough it'll happen, predicting that managers like McInally will eventually fail and that small clubs will hit hard times isn't as difficult as you're making out.

As for your info, maybe I'm not being clear. I'm not challenging you to reveal it, you've got your strategy for dealing with it and whether or not I agree doesn't matter.

However, please don't expect me to share your concerns when I have no idea what they are.

It's refreshing to hear you explain that you've agreed with me from the word 'go'!

Having said that, I've made my 'concerns' very public on -shall we say- several occasions. If you have no idea what they are, you may be beyond redemption. smile.gif

One final point-I have NEVER regarded Greenock Morton as a 'small' club. Perhaps that is part of your difficulty.
mortonjag 2008-09-26 16:13:55
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 26 2008, 04:02 PM) [snapback]518654[/snapback]
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Missing the point altogether Barbarossa.

I don't believe he's missing the point at all. Every time somebody has made a valid point, adding that he has evidence to prove it, you've rubbished the notion.

If somebody passes me some helpful information, I'm reassured when he endorses that with confirmation that he is 'in the know'. I don't expect him to tell me more unless he chooses, and I CERTAINLY don't see that as a problem for him.

I remember very clearly on one occasion when I got a bit upset at the constant 'rubbishing', and commented that the information could do a lot of damage if it were publicised. That was a fact.

Your helpful comment-'Go ahead-publish it-you won't'. That was because you were resentful as Barbie has correctly identified! The information has not been published, but is still as potent as it was back then, despite your attempts to ridicule me.

It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if we begin to see stuff appearing in the newspapers in the near future! ph34r.gif

mortonjag 2008-09-26 16:33:33
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 26 2008, 04:23 PM) [snapback]518663[/snapback]
Maybe I just don't have your patience.

I've said my piece, you're welcome to PM me if you want to discuss it further.

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I never wanted to discuss it in the first place, as in my opinion there was nothing to discuss. The facts remain, and facts are chiels than winna ding! smile.gif

I will however, continue to defend my position on each and every occasion that I'm called in question.
mortonjag 2008-09-27 08:12:00
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 26 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]518658[/snapback]
Symbolic of your struggle with reality more like biggrin.gif

Symbolic of the 'heid up erse' stance of most posters under forty who coincidentally object to the truth 'a la Jag'.

Morton is NOT a small club. Get that right up beside yer heid my good friend.

QUOTE(cornbeef @ Sep 26 2008, 04:29 PM) [snapback]518666[/snapback]
Rivers of P1sh

Away for a swim cloth ears.

QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Sep 26 2008, 06:29 PM) [snapback]518698[/snapback]
There will be many supporters and posters on here who know a lot more about the goings on at Cappielow than they feel obliged to share on this message board.

Thankfully there are only a few that are so far up their own arses that they feel the need to come on here and brag about it dry.gif

Before they come back with the self righteous pish that is “this type of attack is exactly why we don’t post information on the board†take a good look at yourselves - if you are such shrinking violets why bother mentioning it in the first place?

Yes it is your right but equally it’s everyone else’s right to have a pop as well.

Not come across such misplaced self importance based on "I know something you don’t know nah, nah, nana nah" since P4 at primary school.

When does the “my dads bigger than your dad†thread start? rolleyes.gif

And there will always be the ignorant, self satisfied, and self opinionated arseholes who know nothing and resent other self opinionated arseholes who know a hell of a lot and use the knowledge with discretion.

Self opinionated arseholes with chips on their shoulders are the worst type. dry.gif

QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 26 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]518699[/snapback]
Gidday Cawstuck,

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Our toads are mainly in Queensland - brought over from Hawaii.

The cane toad, Bufo marinus to his mates, was introduced to Australia by the sugar cane industry to control two pests of sugar cane, the grey backed cane beetle and the frenchie beetle.

Perhaps MJ would like some for pest control purposes ?

I suspect the pest may be nearer eradication that we imagine.

QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Sep 27 2008, 12:08 AM) [snapback]518822[/snapback]
About 5 of the 7 pages of this thread read:

"You have chosen to ignore blah blah"

Joyful reading. smile.gif
I sincerely hope that players don't read this, and a few years ago I'd have guessed that they did look at this. Thanks to moronjag and co, ironically, I doubt any of the staff can be arsed coming on here now, which is for the best. Some of you lot are pathetic.

The staff should be nowhere near this forum unless they have the wit to handle it responsibly. When you grow up you will hopefully understand things like that.
mortonjag 2008-09-27 08:16:44 It's been a long time indeed. We will win today. There are many reasons why we HAVE to win today. If we DON'T win today I'm having chilli pakora as a starter tonight no matter what my partner thinks.
mortonjag 2008-09-27 08:18:03
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 26 2008, 07:26 PM) [snapback]518714[/snapback]
I like that one. biggrin.gif

Big Blue Eyes loves poetry Mrs T! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-27 08:24:48
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 26 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]518772[/snapback]
I'm not going to either of the Dingwall games - I'll still likely attend all other games apart from possibly Almondvale as I'd rather catch ebola than visit that s***hole again.
If I was offered decent work hours on a Saturday I'd jump at the chance though - Morton at the moment simply can't be a block on progress...

What are you building SPARROT?
mortonjag 2008-09-27 08:31:45 I can say without fear of contradiction that I have gone home many a time after a hard days work where I have seen at least half a dozen more attractive women in greater states of undress.

Puggs my boy-at times you come over as a tad desperate! laugh.gif

There's an excuse for beermonkey-he's not even been to a two bit tech!
mortonjag 2008-09-27 08:35:25
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 27 2008, 08:27 AM) [snapback]518857[/snapback]
Are you Big Blue Jugs? I hope not. unsure.gif

Well I was being strongly accused of it Mrs T. and when a Moderator does things like that he's either giving away secrets he shouldn't or just being cheeky!!!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-27 08:46:16
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 27 2008, 08:33 AM) [snapback]518859[/snapback]
I don't think the issue is with people resenting people who know a lot and use it at their discretion. People have a problem because people who know things come on here and say they know things and then refuse to say what it is, rather than them knowing stuff and being happy with that and not mentioning it at all. If people were truelly happy with just knowing stuff and not trying to act more important than others then they would talk about it amongst themselves, the fact they know stuff has no place on a public messageboard.

The people who don't know things love the club just as much as the people who do know things, which puts them at a disadvantage already because theyre being told something is wrong with the club by people who claim to be in the know but refuse to say what it is, but waste no time in telling them that they know something. Some people on here seem to forget that the people in the dark love the club every bit as much as the people in the know, and that they aren't any more important than the average fan.

In which case, may I clarify my position Dear?

I am privy to a significant quantity of data from several sources. Some is documented, while more is based on information provided. I am not AT LIBERTY to throw that information into a public forum-it has been passed in confidence.

What I have been doing for some considerable time is making general points about Morton which are obviously based to some degree on my 'inside' information. I am invariably attacked and challenged by the usual culprits, with 'put up or shut up', or 'prove it', etc., etc. etc.

I am then wont to stating simply and factually that INDEED I can prove it, but am not at liberty to do so.

Does that make any sense? If you say 'Yes' you're on an extra bottle of Merlot tonight.
mortonjag 2008-09-27 09:03:48
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 27 2008, 08:38 AM) [snapback]518861[/snapback]
What was he doing, come on spill it. If it was you, you might have chose a better character. I had her sussed from her/his first post. Some of the guys on here were sniffing around like dogs on heat. rolleyes.gif

I don't believe I've ever suggested, posted, or implied that I'm Big Blue Jugs. I just thought Bryan had got it into his head that I am, and he should be able to check! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-27 09:06:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 27 2008, 08:56 AM) [snapback]518865[/snapback]
We don't win, may I sentence you to bread and water for not bringing a friend and loudly supporting the team.

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Are you all set for Ron Number at 2.45 pm ?

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I've been trying to 'phone him! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-27 09:42:39
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Sep 27 2008, 09:19 AM) [snapback]518874[/snapback]
Interesting that 3 people say it's NEVER ok to play a long ball!? Seen plenty of goals scored from a long ball over the top for a pacey forward to run onto. Remember this being particularly effective for Dave McCabe!

What you shouldn't be doing is realying on it as the main method of getting the ball forward, especially when the long bal is aimed at an isolated striker with two guys marking him closely i.e what Morton do with Brian Wake every game

I agree-I haven't bothered voting as I don't think the poll will prove much.

An accurate long ball-particularly a diagonal long ball to a pacey winger - has always been a part of football, and adds to the excitement. Long punts up the middle to a 'hold up' man can be boring and frustrating if he doesn't have effective follow through from midfield, and that's what we've been seeing ad nauseam.
mortonjag 2008-09-27 09:51:30
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 27 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]518871[/snapback]
Great post Savo, concisely expressing the sentiments of the faithful and the loyal Morton support. cool.gif

Viz. 'The fans' Mr Edwards! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-27 09:54:27
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 27 2008, 09:07 AM) [snapback]518870[/snapback]
I prefer fantasist!

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QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 27 2008, 09:40 AM) [snapback]518883[/snapback]
Check the ankles lads - minute she gets pupped the first time she'll be piling on the cake and it won't be long before you wouldn't ride it into batttle.

She's got legs that could kick start a jumbo jet, but she looks like a right dirty so she would defo get ot.
One up the bum, no harm done.

TonInDublin

Are you busy tonight Sweetie?
mortonjag 2008-09-27 10:00:53
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Sep 27 2008, 09:52 AM) [snapback]518888[/snapback]
Conclusive proof, if ever it was needed, King arsehole has spoken - ladies and gentlemen of the jury I rest my case rolleyes.gif

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King arsehole was simply making the point that King arsehole knows what he's talking about and other arsehole minions of King arsehole get upset and say nasty things about King arsehole which presumably saves them from hitting their wives, kicking the cat oot the window, or having that extra and dangerous drink.

As to 'resting your case', may I point out that Hobby Horses are not permitted in court. As King, I assure you that is correct.

How long do you think Mr Rae will still be Chairman BTW? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-27 10:03:23
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Sep 27 2008, 10:01 AM) [snapback]518893[/snapback]
I know things about penguins that would completely change your mind (written evidence, pictures, videos the lot,) in fact so much life changing info you would be dating a penguin within a week laugh.gif

Can't show anyone on here the evidence though - its exclusively for me, MrsTon and PortTon whose love for penguins and ability to handle this information sensibly is clearly superior to the rabble that populate the board.

Mon the penguins biggrin.gif

That doesn't even get up to a scrape pass mark as an attempt at wit/sarcasm.

Are they only the small minded who attack King arsehole?
mortonjag 2008-09-27 10:17:40
SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A STRIKER
mortonjag 2008-09-27 10:19:25
QUOTE(jpmil @ Sep 27 2008, 10:08 AM) [snapback]518898[/snapback]
I'm just back from holiday and although I've waded through this thread (quickly) I've not managed to understand what it is all about.
Could someone explain (not necessarily in great detail) "what's going on at Morton?

Rae is killing the club!
mortonjag 2008-09-27 10:23:40
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 27 2008, 10:20 AM) [snapback]518909[/snapback]
Misogyny? You'll be voting Essenpee and turning homophobic next. rolleyes.gif

Are there NO POUFFE SNP supporters-what about Spurtle?
mortonjag 2008-09-27 10:25:28
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Sep 27 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]518911[/snapback]
What are the odds that with the revelations of unrest and rumour of jobs being on the line that Irons will throw caution to the wind and go 4-3-3 the day in the desperate search for our first win?

p.s hope so, if so 2-1 Morton if not 1-0 Dunfy

Will the players be 'up for it'?
mortonjag 2008-09-27 11:46:52
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Sep 27 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]518915[/snapback]
Your majesty,

My point is that you can�€™t have a proper dialogue based on �€œyou have to agree with everything I say because I have information I can�€™t tell you about!�€�

I fully understand the problem you have.

I regularly enjoy forum dialogue and exchange personal messages with intelligent fellow posters who have no problem with my knowing absolutely everything.

Some of them were in the same self destructive warp as your good self until they came to their senses. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-27 11:50:30
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 27 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]518935[/snapback]
Sure whynot, but only because i hear Mark Farrell pulled his hamstring cutting the grass on Thursday, otherwise i'd have him upfront.

I heard it was RSI.
mortonjag 2008-09-27 11:52:00
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 27 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]518924[/snapback]
I don't deal with the petty cash sir, another on the team is responsible for that!

Do you take the bag to the bank?
mortonjag 2008-09-27 11:53:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 27 2008, 11:50 AM) [snapback]518954[/snapback]
You psyched for 2.45pm yet

Is he coming?
mortonjag 2008-09-27 12:00:44
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 27 2008, 11:56 AM) [snapback]518961[/snapback]
I don't deal with the petty cash huh.gif

Look Puggs I'm not talking about insider trading, and it probably wouldn't make you enough for a poke of Mr Rae's best Soor Plooms, especially in those days of 'credit crunch' and rising sugar prices. I meant -are you sent to bank the petty cash?
mortonjag 2008-09-27 12:03:30
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 27 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]518969[/snapback]
Might just get us a draw! biggrin.gif

The Ref would probably notice.
mortonjag 2008-09-27 12:04:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 27 2008, 12:00 PM) [snapback]518967[/snapback]
Is it high noon yet ?

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Your post was received at that very hour!
mortonjag 2008-09-27 12:06:04
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 27 2008, 12:04 PM) [snapback]518973[/snapback]
Did you get your hole or just a cheeky winch at their door at the end of the night?

Mature men don't 'get their hole'!
mortonjag 2008-09-27 12:25:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 27 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]518978[/snapback]
Don't worry, puggsy ... MJ ain't no accountant.

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Mortonjag KNOWS the price of Mr Rae's Soor Plooms.
mortonjag 2008-09-27 12:26:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 27 2008, 12:11 PM) [snapback]518976[/snapback]
wot a coincidence.

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What I want to know is this. If you are eight or nine hours ahead of me-what was today's score please?
mortonjag 2008-09-27 12:29:05
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 27 2008, 12:11 PM) [snapback]518977[/snapback]
You speak for yourself. laugh.gif

Congratulations Mr Edwards-patience is indeed a virtue!
mortonjag 2008-09-27 12:30:32 I heard a whisper that Kieran McAnespie's budgie is ill.
mortonjag 2008-09-27 12:41:16
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 27 2008, 12:32 PM) [snapback]518992[/snapback]
I am sorry, MJ, but Sugar Rae's ordering system has instructed me to withhold that information.

He is concerned that any early warning may preclude you from bringing a friend.

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I'm taking my brother, The Monkey, and Fing-is that not enough?
mortonjag 2008-09-27 12:43:24
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 27 2008, 12:34 PM) [snapback]518993[/snapback]
That's the cost ... not the price.

cost
–noun
1. the price paid to acquire, produce, accomplish, or maintain anything:
mortonjag 2008-09-27 12:46:19
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 27 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]518994[/snapback]
Not even for posting yet another speel of boring pish?

speel
verb (used with object), verb (used without object) Scot. and North England.
to climb; ascend; mount.


spiel
noun
a usually high-flown talk or speech, esp. for the purpose of luring people to a movie, a sale, etc.; pitch.

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mortonjag 2008-09-27 12:49:44
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 27 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]518997[/snapback]
Did a little birdie tell you?

Indeed, and apparently the whole squad's as sick as a parrot.
mortonjag 2008-09-27 12:52:24
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 27 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]519003[/snapback]
You're almost as witty as Gina Yashere.

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It was more information for you SPARROT-I want you to learn and become clever like me!

Who is this Gina bloke anyway?
mortonjag 2008-09-27 12:54:37
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 27 2008, 12:44 PM) [snapback]518998[/snapback]
Does the lack of follow through frustrate you often?

Every time I see them-I really wish Jenkins was fit/motivated, and would have an upbeat Jamie back in a flash.
mortonjag 2008-09-27 12:56:19
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 27 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]519007[/snapback]
Still can't use a space bar - your alleged intelligence can't quite stretch to that advanced level.
Perhaps you should chuck posting until you learn...

Were the three full stops necessary-or were you pre-occupied?
mortonjag 2008-09-27 12:59:24 That's a very cryptic question Barbie. On the face of it you appear to be suggesting that the behaviour of a hard core of trouble makers could jeopardise our future, or is that quite wrong?
mortonjag 2008-09-27 13:02:06
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Sep 27 2008, 12:56 PM) [snapback]519010[/snapback]
Noun 1. roomer

- a tenant in someone's house, boarder, lodger, renter, tenant - someone who pays rent to use land or a building or a car that is owned by someone else.

I thought this thread would be about your renter boy!! rolleyes.gif

You leave my renter boy right out of this Santa, and unless you have anything of importance to contribute to a serious thread about the illness of the pet of a fans' pet, f*ck off and don't come back till Christmas.
mortonjag 2008-09-27 13:02:59
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 27 2008, 12:59 PM) [snapback]519013[/snapback]
Deliberate obtuseness does not work on me I'm afraid. Must try harder.

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mortonjag 2008-09-27 13:18:20
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 27 2008, 01:03 PM) [snapback]519019[/snapback]
Fail.

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Just getting ready-to head off -for the match-SPARROT - I hope the team passes! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-27 13:19:09
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 27 2008, 01:09 PM) [snapback]519022[/snapback]
Scratch that, im going. DAMN YOU MORTON! mad.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-27 13:20:31
QUOTE(Wonko the Sane @ Sep 27 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]519020[/snapback]
The trouble with 3 at the back is that it forces McAlister into a defensive role. Personally, I'd leave McGuffie out cos I don't rate him but Irons obviously does. So Kev will likely be on the bench again which is a waste IMO

Indeed-his wages should have been spent on a proper right winger! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-27 13:30:07
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 27 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]519027[/snapback]
Perhaps you should consider lowering your expectation of a 5th place finish - the pressure is clearly getting to them. rolleyes.gif

....hold on please....right that's my- zip up- and we're ready to go- I have every confidence that we will finish 5th or above-not necessarily with this Manager - - not necessarily with the current ------squad- not necessarily with Soor Plooms as the Headie- but- we will finish 5th or above!

Right- we're - OFF! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 06:31:14
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 27 2008, 06:14 PM) [snapback]519179[/snapback]
East Stirlingshire 5 Elgin City 2

If East Stirlingshire can get a big win so can we.

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I believe their manager is more experienced than ours.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 06:34:47
QUOTE(gmfc_stinny_gmfc @ Sep 27 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]519167[/snapback]
Exactly, harding is one of the worst defenders ive seen in a professional football team and we need rid of him now!.

I take it you're a newcomer to football and don't get out much!
mortonjag 2008-09-28 06:41:23
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 27 2008, 10:37 PM) [snapback]519319[/snapback]
Gidday capello,

I expect that MJ will give us a complete report in the next hour or so.

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Alistair Donald was indeed sitting beside Mr Rae. Mr Rae left early. Apparently Mr Donald asked him to pop out to the Autoteller for some cash. I believe a take over was imminent, but Mr Rae forgot the PIN and by the time he got back empty handed the Pars had equalised and AD had again changed his mind.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 06:45:53
QUOTE(wanderton @ Sep 27 2008, 11:07 PM) [snapback]519334[/snapback]
I read with interest this forum and also letters in the local paper with a lot of people wanting mr rae to move on which to a extent i can see peoples point.However mr rae has always said that he would sell for his initial stake that he bought the club for and is happy to wipe out the hundered of thousands of his own money he has spent on upgrading cappielow and also the money he has lost on some poor signings.For the folk who are demanding him to move on and sell up i must ask who the hell is going to pay the man what he is looking for and also maintain full time football? I am sure that if someone came along with the club at heart and not wanting to turn cappielow into a housing estate mr rae would speak to them.but until then we should be happy to have a team playing 1st division football with a great support and look around at some clubs in a higher league than us that struggle at times to pay players and staff wages this as far as i know has never been the situation at morton since mr rae took over.


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QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 27 2008, 11:38 PM) [snapback]519344[/snapback]
We already have substantial gate revenue that can largely be guaranteed at a lower level regardless of on the itch success. IIRC a small music festival was planned to take place at Cappielow in May of last year, shame the idea itself folded but not to say others wouldn't. Is the large area of land than constitutes the car park etc not under club ownership?
Time to face reality: clubs like ourselves are selling clubs - at the right price and at the right time. Youth development is an obvious source for such fees but equally so is decent scouting and open-mindedness - look at the signing of Shimmin and what he could earn for the club.
I'm not saying its an easy task, but then again efficient running of a football club is never an easy task and I hardly think it should be outwith our expectations to expect that.

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mortonjag 2008-09-28 06:56:21 My great great grandfather Methuselah Mortonjag invented the long ball. It never caught on because players were too easily fooled by the unnatural bounce on a plastic pitch.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 06:57:24
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 28 2008, 04:58 AM) [snapback]519378[/snapback]
Dont worry, no doubt Crawford won it to pay for him and his cronies day out on the golfing

Crawford is a golfer?
mortonjag 2008-09-28 07:06:45
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Sep 27 2008, 06:47 PM) [snapback]519213[/snapback]
What part?

The bit about the left-back that has absolutely no idea where he is meant to be on the pitch, makes poor decisions and so on? Or do we like him now because now and again he covers up his gross incompetence with a slide tackle that could have been avoided by being in the right place initially rather than having to chase back 10/15 yards and dive in? I said on another thread he seems to be a centre-back moved out to the left because he wasn't good enough, but I think now that perhaps that was over-estimating him. What the f*** is going on at Murray Park when they are producing football players that don't even have the slightest sense of positioning, and keepers that can't keep??? I thought McGregor's positioning was bad, but he's Maldini compared to this guy. A waste of space, a desperate signing by a desperate man, which leads in nicely to the next bit...
Is it the bit about the manager that sends out a team that just seems totally uninspired, and unaware of where on the pitch they are meant to be that is questionable? That obviously doesn't do set-pieces in training, as evidenced by our approach to Paartalu's throws? The manager who made yet another change today that influenced the game negatively for us? I'll stop now, because I can't really be arsed going on.
Edit to add: If we're thinking today was actually good, and that a decent team wouldn't have beaten us quite easily, then we are in an even bigger mess than I though. We were average, at best, it's just as well Dunfermline were total gash.

I am more than ever convinced you are David McGregor. Mind you Harper had a field day, getting to the bye line 57 times and those eight killer crosses were a nightmare for Cuthbert. Thank f*ck they only scored from six! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 07:21:06
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Sep 27 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]519190[/snapback]
Russell's miss was horrendous. He was more culpable than Harding for Morton's failure to take 3 points today.. he was maybe ten yards out with the keeper to beat and acres of space, to fail to even hit the target is shocking -no composure whatsoever - not good enough.

I don't like scapegoat threads, especially when the real culprit was bouncing about like a loonball windmill in the technical area!

IF YOU MUST single players out and use terms about horrendous misses and lack of composure please select prime culprit.

I give you:

JIMBO HIT AND HOPE

His failure to even get his shot on target in the first half was one of the most culpable pieces of panic I've ever witnessed on a football pitch. I see that he's getting accolades again for yesterday's 90 minutes of gung ho pish, and those who awarded him the MOTM clearly were pished. I can't remember the number of times he tracked back well, tackled well and then gave the ball to an opponent! dry.gif

Jimbo has good points-sure-but I believe it's finally time for folk to wake up and smell the coffee. He's not that great really.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 07:27:27
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 27 2008, 05:51 PM) [snapback]519145[/snapback]
1. Greacen is no better than Harding at making stupid, costly defensive errors.
2. Weatherson didn't actually miss any major chances from what i recall.
3. Smith is not of 1st Division standard.

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mortonjag 2008-09-28 07:39:06 Hi Ryan,

I know the players are not supposed to read this daft wee massage board but I've been told they often do.

It's yer Uncle Mortonjag here, and he's slightly concerned by what some folk have been saying about you. Apparently yer 'no that good' son.

I just wanted to comment that nobody was complaining about you when you scored the winner against Hibs, and the press thought you were 'outstanding' against Killie a couple of seasons back, and at least I know you've been denied two great headed goals this season by inspired goalkeeping.

OK son, I know you're going through a bit of a jittery spell, but Rusty can't make McManus captain when he's been a cheeky boy, so I'm afraid it's yours whether you like it or not, and you'll just have to take your mind of the armband and watch the ball.

As far as I'm concerned son, you're one of the most talented footballers at Cappielow-you'll just have to learn to concentrate for 90 minutes, and try to switch off completely to the fog horn in the dugout.

You're a good lad and yer Uncle Mortonjag loves you. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 07:52:48
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Sep 28 2008, 07:34 AM) [snapback]519401[/snapback]
Yip.

YUP![attachment=4599:penis_pump.jpg]
mortonjag 2008-09-28 07:55:09
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Sep 28 2008, 07:43 AM) [snapback]519404[/snapback]
It is a little early to be on the alco-pops MJ !! blink.gif

Don't be silly Gash-I was just sending a note to my nephew from Embra-is this not the Post Office?
mortonjag 2008-09-28 07:56:26
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Sep 28 2008, 07:35 AM) [snapback]519402[/snapback]
I think it is more to do with the fact they where playing Elgin City than experience.

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Maybe he re-discovered his marbles.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 07:59:20
QUOTE(capitanus @ Sep 27 2008, 08:51 PM) [snapback]519297[/snapback]
McGowan is a cracking wee player, nobody would dispute that, and he has certainly got a lot going for him.

However, bigger and better clubs than Morton would want him, why on earth would he want to come to Cappielow?



'Anybody'?
mortonjag 2008-09-28 08:06:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 27 2008, 07:43 PM) [snapback]519245[/snapback]
Is there a church service tomorrow ?

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I believe Rev McCurry is the guest preacher, as Rev Rae is off to complete his holiday-well I don't suppose it really matters who's shafting you-anyway the sermon will be based on a reading from God's Holy Book-Job 1: 20-21

Then Job arose, and rent his mantle, and shaved his head, and fell down upon the ground, and worshipped,
And said, Naked came I out of my mother's womb, and naked shall I return thither: the Lord gave, and the Lord hath taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif

mortonjag 2008-09-28 08:09:02
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Sep 28 2008, 08:06 AM) [snapback]519409[/snapback]
Not sure, did you meander aimlessly through a queuing system even though there was actually no queue ?

I can see big GIRO signs but there's definitely no queue. Have I come to the wrong place?
mortonjag 2008-09-28 08:14:07
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 27 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]519184[/snapback]
If his budgie is ill he should take it to one of the governments new poly-clinics. rolleyes.gif

Faw tweetment?
mortonjag 2008-09-28 08:20:19 I think of Paul almost every day, and shall continue to do so for as long as his face still appears on the labels of his excellent Italian Salad Dressing. For years all profits from that concoction (his own recipe) have been donated to charity.

I don't use it because of the charity thing-just because it tastes 'Ace'.

Sorry to lose a fine actor. I hope he went peacefully.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 08:51:58 I enjoyed the game yesterday. One thing spoiled it-the bigger picture-we're even further adrift at the bottom of our division. I thought we played reasonably attractive football for spells of the game and had the Pars in our pocket for most of the second half.

Why were no substitutions made when a second goal would have clinched it? Forget that token chucking of Jenkins on for the last five minutes-well DON'T - without mentioning that his one run through the middle which just failed to pay off, was the most direct attacking move of the whole game.

Dunfermline had already used all of their subs. Iain Russell wasn't getting much change out of their defence, and big Eric had become somewhat redundant. Why not bring on Superkev and Jenks with fifteen minutes left? Freshen things up - keep the Pars guessing -it's not exactly rocket science!

Again it looked to me like Irons froze, fingers crossed, and praying we'd hold on instead of going for a second goal. In that respect he's WORSE than JM! laugh.gif

Again, as at Broadwood, his prayers were not answered.

mortonjag 2008-09-28 08:57:50
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Sep 28 2008, 08:19 AM) [snapback]519413[/snapback]
What's Nero?

Try here
mortonjag 2008-09-28 09:00:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 28 2008, 07:33 AM) [snapback]519400[/snapback]
Whit ?

Are they ALL poofs ?

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Ghost is wont to giving the willies.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 09:06:07
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 28 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]519427[/snapback]
Your post is all very well and good, but as a defender his first job is to defend, all your examples have been of him scoring or nearly scoring apart from one game two years ago.

He doesn't defend well enough throughout 90 minutes to be good enough at this level, and costs us far more goals than he'll score.

I wasn't speaking to you.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 10:20:20
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 28 2008, 09:23 AM) [snapback]519430[/snapback]
Well i am Ryan's spokesman, unfortunately i haven't told him i think he's pish.
thats not true actually, i've always liked him...he's just infuriating and shouldnt be anywhere near the team when he's having one of his wee spells like just now.

I wish there was a secret love child of Greacen and Harding, then in 20 years time we'd have an excellent first division defender...although we'll probably be in the 3rd division with Dougie still hanging on in there.

He'll be 97 years young. Yip-I can just see him shuffling onto the pitch with his Zimmer and getting us all 'up for it'! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 10:22:10
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Sep 28 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]519434[/snapback]
amen.....now f*** off and and give yourself some anal rimming

I don't understand-is that something you're good at?
mortonjag 2008-09-28 10:24:31
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Sep 28 2008, 09:49 AM) [snapback]519442[/snapback]
But for a club like St. Johnstone one of the major income revenues is the club's conferencing and events facilities - Cappielow doesn't have that potential (in terms of space). We could use space around Cappielow if it is ours, but it would still take considerable money to put together (and would leave it with very little parking space).

St. Midden need to leave love street to move to a craptastic new legoland stadium, but if they want to move forward (and not be crippled by debt) they have to. They got incredibly lucky with the deal they got. It would be difficult for us to manufacture such a deal IMO.

I actually agree that the running of the club could be much better, youth football in particular, but also very general stuff. But the club has come a long way in the past few seasons, and my worry is that it could be much worse.

Examples!
mortonjag 2008-09-28 10:26:24
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 28 2008, 09:41 AM) [snapback]519439[/snapback]
I thought yesterday was by far his best game of the season so far, and that he played pretty good which made the team play well. He dived into tackles, broke up play and passed the ball out wide at every oppertunity.

There were a few gaps in the midfield because him and Masterton sat too deep at times but overall i thought he was good and no coincidence that we played well the day he played well.

I hope he continues to play decent like today because im getting fed up with Morton players giving up once they've earned long term contracts.

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mortonjag 2008-09-28 10:30:29
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 28 2008, 08:59 AM) [snapback]519423[/snapback]
It's not a laughing matter. The poor wee thing is mentally ill. He stands in front of the mirror and argues wae himself then a fight breaks oot and he starts nutting the mirror.... unsure.gif

Thank God he's just a featherweight.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 10:32:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 28 2008, 10:30 AM) [snapback]519455[/snapback]
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MJ, perhaps he is a shoddy typist ?

Does he mean anal trimming ?

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I think he's the arse who's always bumming about take offs or something though that could be somebody else. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 10:37:17
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 28 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]519451[/snapback]
2002/3 - Scottish Third Division

2007/8 - Scottish First Division
That's one example I can think of right away. There are, of course, examples where we haven't 'came a long way' over that time, but that's for another thread I'm sure. smile.gif

That is a perfect illustration of the current malaise at Morton and among many fans.

Five seasons to get out of a crap division full of part timers with part time managers and minimal resources was a bloody farce given our potential.

A fool and his money were indeed easily parted. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 10:41:18
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 28 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]519450[/snapback]
The team was playing well. Irons must have thought "if it ain't broke don't fix it"

Why make a substitution if there wasn't really a need to. Imagine if he brought on all the subs and we lost 2-1 rolleyes.gif

Things were going reasonably well and we were heading for 3 points, all we had to do was keep things ticking over until the final whistle.
As far as the subs went, for Irons it was damned if you do. damned if you don't



QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 28 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]519452[/snapback]
Couldn't have put it better myself.

Well gentlemen, he was damned because he didn't, and don't tell me Jenkins wouldn't have pushed them even further back-probably Kev as well.

Irons-I firmly believe- has it in for Jenks right now. I could be wrong. I wonder if any other posters agree with me.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 11:36:42
QUOTE(irnbru @ Sep 28 2008, 11:15 AM) [snapback]519469[/snapback]
I've been asking that all season!!!

Seriously the debate on whether paartalu was good or bad shows that he was involved in the game. I'd much rather that than some chancer who hides for most of it!

As for Chris Smith, i wouldn't got as far as the Dale comparison but he's no better than the likes of Sean Dillon. Flatters to deceive by making last ditch tackles/clearances to make up for his own mistakes. No better than a 3rd division player at best. Hopefully he's just a stop gap as he doesn't add to the team and hasn't got the quality to help see us up the league and indeed challenge over time.

Guess it's all about opinions!

How many mistakes did he make yesterday which put us in any real danger?

He's only 19 and was up against Kevin Harper- a very experienced and tricky winger on his day. The boy incidentally had one superb clearance off the goal line. The way I see it is that he's young and inexperienced, but he reads the game well and early. OK he's a bit guilty of being pulled out of position but that will improve, and his timing of those 'last ditch' tackles is actually pretty damned good if you ask me.

I think he's one for the future.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 11:38:50
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 28 2008, 11:29 AM) [snapback]519472[/snapback]
PM for this pi5h

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What's Ryan's screen name?
mortonjag 2008-09-28 11:40:21
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Sep 28 2008, 11:28 AM) [snapback]519471[/snapback]
I went to the bathroom ten minutes ago done a big keech saluted it named it Barry Lavety and sent it on its way.

So it wasn't named after Keech Wright?
mortonjag 2008-09-28 11:41:58
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 28 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]519463[/snapback]
Spurtle Colkitto

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Hugh Janus.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 11:47:37
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 28 2008, 11:46 AM) [snapback]519481[/snapback]
People are forgetting the three or four good crosses Smith put into the box aswell, he didn't seem scared to come forward espescially in the first half and delivered a few good crosses into the box, cant remember the last time a fullback did that for us.

I doubt he'll ever be good enough if we actually want to finish in the top half of this league, but for now he'll do.

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mortonjag 2008-09-28 11:50:49
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Sep 28 2008, 11:46 AM) [snapback]519482[/snapback]
MJ you really need to control yourself, if you continue to affirm my postings with self indulgent pish like this my job will be done - give them enough rope and all that laugh.gif

It's very hard to be modest when one is perfect! angel.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 11:52:56
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 28 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]519484[/snapback]
it was HardingsHamstring until even he realised he was pish and changed it to GreacensGenitals. You know its bad when you're so ashamed of yourself that you have to change your screen name.

I just sent my nice message to Greacen's Genitals and the reply was:

F*ck off you boring old c*nt.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 11:54:41 laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 12:05:44
QUOTE(mortonboi @ Sep 28 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]519492[/snapback]
jim was exellent today tracked back well and took players on and put in a couple of good crosses harding wis pish as usual and shimmin and smith were exellent so the only playerts that never got past marks were wakey harding and walker

Wakey scored two bloody goals.

WAKEY WAKEY!!! blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 12:06:40
QUOTE(MrX @ Sep 28 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]519495[/snapback]
No composure, not good enough, headless chicken.

Effort - (quality + composure + ruthlessness) = Russell

signed


Brian Graham.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 12:07:55
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Sep 28 2008, 12:04 PM) [snapback]519494[/snapback]
I wanted to call our first born Andrew after the great man himself - unfortunately she was a girl. I did however insist that the wedding (before MJ or NewTon chuck in their tuppence worth the wedding came before the weans,) was colour coordinated blue/white/yellow with a Morton player on the cake.

Actually, now I think about it I’m not sure if I should be bragging about this ph34r.gif

Fairy cake- I take it?
mortonjag 2008-09-28 12:09:54
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 28 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]519502[/snapback]
E=MC2

careful Spurtle-that little smartass SPARROT will be pulling you up for not having your '2' in exactly the right place. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 12:12:03
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 28 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]519493[/snapback]
if your heading over to Cowal, drop in the papers on the way by.

Only over to Milton of Campsie and back I'm afraid!


Toodle pip! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 13:11:23
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 28 2008, 01:08 PM) [snapback]519533[/snapback]
I piped the parade of the opening of their gala day/fete a couple of years back.

Fact smile.gif

It is my partner's stamping ground! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 13:21:02
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 28 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]519496[/snapback]
It's quite cute how much the Jag loves wee Russell even missing an absolutely outstanding change!

What are you babbling about? The change was right in front of me-FOR MY BENEFIT! He wears lovely underpants.

QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Sep 28 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]519509[/snapback]
I thought McAllister had an excellent game and is by far the closest thing to a decent footballer we have!

Russell is never a right midfielder and Wake should have been taken off shortly after he scored with Russell pushed up front and Jenkins replacing him. Big Eric was dead on his feet with twenty minutes to go and should also have been subbed.

On the subject of Jenkins, I looked over at Irons when the Pars scored and he was distraught with his head in his hands - fallout or no fallout I don’t subscribe to the theory that Jenkins is not getting a game because he has had words with Irons. I’m sure DI puts out what he considers to be his best team - his job depends on it!

What Jimbo does well he does very well-that's the problem, and 'closest thing' is apt. If he could just find a finish to those amazing runs he WOULD be amazing. As it stands he's a big disappointment to me.

I was close enough to watch Mr Irons throughout the game. I'm sure he would have subbed anybody to get on that pitch-he just can't give his players a minute's peace, and I'm convinced Jenkins is being 'left out in the cold'.

All stick, and no carrot, he has much to learn if he's ever going to succeed in man management.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 13:27:23
QUOTE(MrX @ Sep 28 2008, 12:46 PM) [snapback]519523[/snapback]
Most of the teams in this league are roughly the same level, fr me its all about taking your chances when they come. We've been unable to do that, whilst other teams have and we've been punished as a result.

Make hay when the sunshines and all that.

Make chances and even average strikers will score and all that.

You're talking utter bollocks. Why should Russell not be allowed to play as a bloody striker-because we've got no wingers and no creative midfielders to MAKE chances-AND in complete madness we let Newby go out on loan.

Who is to blame for that? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 13:29:23
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Sep 28 2008, 12:34 PM) [snapback]519512[/snapback]
That noose must be getting tight by now unsure.gif

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The 'noose'!

What a joke-you can't hang the immortal.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 13:36:50
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Sep 28 2008, 01:10 PM) [snapback]519534[/snapback]
7 years ago the club had basically nothing. No players, no kit, no Cowshed, no decent playing surface, no commercial side, no relationship with the local media, no crowd.

Cappielow has it's cowshed back, with some seats down the front, it has a new tannoy system, there are now toilets in the cowshed, and better catering facilities. There are new floodlights, the entrance area is much improved. The drainage system for the pitch was repaired, and we've given a good groundsman all he needs to make sure the pitch is always in top condition (from fertiliser to machinery).

We have a new training ground, and arrangements so that we can train all year round.

We got the crowds back. We invested significantly in Alex Williams (to be kicked in the teeth), and this was a sign that the club was back, and was ambitious. The crowds came back in more numbers than for well over a decade. We are now back in the first division.

The club now has a much improved website, has facilities to sell merchandise before games, has hospitality at games.

In many ways improvements have been slow, but they have been made. And we have come a long way in the past 7 years.

The downsides are that progress with the youth system has been very slow, and commercial progress has continually been slow.

But the only real failure (but don't get me wrong, it's a big failure), is to bring in the right coaching staff to take the club forward. Jim McInally was the wrong man, and that cost us. And now it seems that DI is the wrong man.

But that's what happens at football clubs, sometimes things go wrong on the playing side. But I don't feel like our club should be higher than it is at the moment, and I can accept that progress will be slow at times.


I fundamentally disagree with your perception of 'having come a long way'. Money has been frittered away hand over fist on ridiculous appointments which have engendered negative return. The commercial side is a morass, while public relations are non existent. The Youth System was deliberately abandoned. Crowds are dropping and interest has effectively gone.

Following your argument to its logical conclusion we'll have an SPL compliant stadium and be bottom of the Third division.

BINGO!
mortonjag 2008-09-28 13:39:55
QUOTE(Morton_T.I.D @ Sep 28 2008, 01:19 PM) [snapback]519539[/snapback]
Will there be a video clip of the "goal" we scored.

Nope-it's already impounded at Hampden. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 13:42:51
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 28 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]519550[/snapback]
no logic there, MJ.

With our on field performances, surely the suspension of the Cappielow upgrade is INDEFINITE ! ? ! ?

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Precisely-his argument is entirely illogical.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 13:44:34
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 28 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]519543[/snapback]
Your partner still uses stamps ?

She is a snail mail girl ?

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Oops - I apologise for assuming her sex.

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He/she is first class!
mortonjag 2008-09-28 13:56:55
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 28 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]519554[/snapback]

Confucius he say-man who ride electric bike in for f*cking shock!
mortonjag 2008-09-28 14:02:00
QUOTE(Malt @ Sep 28 2008, 02:00 PM) [snapback]519557[/snapback]
Success is measured on the park, I would say Rae has been, somewhat, poor when it comes to appointing a manager, investing in youth and providing entertaining football. The things that matter for fans!

We won the 3rd division by a very small margin, took us a lot longer than expected to get back to the first, there is still no real youth setup and we could see another managerial casualty during Willy Wonka's reign as Chairman.

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mortonjag 2008-09-28 14:09:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 28 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]519547[/snapback]
The cell is immortal.

Alexis Carrel

Alexis Carrel went from being a sceptic of the visions and miracles reported at Lourdes to being a believer after experiencing a healing he could not explain.To the detriment of his career and reputation among his fellow doctors, he steadfastly reiterated his beliefs, and even wrote a book describing his experience.

So that's where Mr Rae's off to!

hee hee
mortonjag 2008-09-28 14:16:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 28 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]519560[/snapback]
He had chances though huh.gif

If you are talking about yesterday-aye hunners and hunners. The best chance to score that vital telling first goal was utterly scorned by the most over rated player in the squad in the first half. He hadn't even the composure to get his shot on target! A damnable mistake if ever I saw one! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 14:31:12
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 28 2008, 02:25 PM) [snapback]519567[/snapback]
Finlayson for Russell was a glaringly obvious sub after 70 minutes: pace and added fitness on the right had side in addition to better defensive cover, as Rasta says. I'm not saying it would have prevented the goal, but I was disappointed that he didn't change it. I guess he wished not to disrupt the rhythym of the side...

rhythm
–noun
1. movement or procedure with uniform or patterned recurrence of a beat, accent, or the like.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 14:33:16
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 28 2008, 02:30 PM) [snapback]519571[/snapback]
McGuffie could come in pace of Paartalu...

Come together?
mortonjag 2008-09-28 14:40:36
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 28 2008, 02:38 PM) [snapback]519577[/snapback]
f*** off, you tedious c***.

Dear, dear, how are the mighty fallen! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 17:34:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 28 2008, 03:28 PM) [snapback]519594[/snapback]
Is Hot Chocolate an alias for Sugar Rae ?

Are you having thoughts of meltdown?
mortonjag 2008-09-28 17:35:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 28 2008, 02:49 PM) [snapback]519583[/snapback]
7. Procedure or routine characterized by regularly recurring elements, activities, or factors:

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mortonjag 2008-09-28 17:41:37
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 28 2008, 02:45 PM) [snapback]519581[/snapback]
No; I just tire of arguing with a sad delusional old man with nothing better to do with his time than create pish aliases in order to soothe his ever-worsening "LOOK AT MEEE!" attention seeking disorder.
You seem to think that by plastering your opinion x thousand times a day across the board that it somehow adds credence to your mix of half-truths, opinion and speculative nonsense. It doesn't. It just makes you a tedious c***.

Thank f*ck-you're a wearisome and self opinionated little arse. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 17:49:48
QUOTE(MrX @ Sep 28 2008, 02:41 PM) [snapback]519579[/snapback]
Sorry, you're talking utter bollocks. You talk pish on here all the time and I very much doubt you've ever kicked a ball in your life. Agree about the wingers, but Newby was complete pish too.

You appear to have some desperate desire to down Iain Russell sonny boy. Maybe he's scored with your girlfriend!

When you grow up and start to see the bigger picture, that will be the time for you to understand Mortonjag. For now I suggest you attempt to impress your peers.

mortonjag 2008-09-28 17:51:14
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 28 2008, 04:46 PM) [snapback]519617[/snapback]
Gidday SmithsTON,

It is public, mate.

MJ has already told us that he would love nothing more than a wee visit to Wellington Aotearoa and to watch the Wellington Phoenix with you.

Does he need to pack his wellies ?

It looks like it was pretty sunny yesterday.

Could you please hold MJ's hand at Westpac Stadium.

He's not used to big crowds like 6,729.

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mortonjag 2008-09-28 17:54:42
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 28 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]519613[/snapback]
So will Toby and Gerry rolleyes.gif

I think Toby and Gerry and many others would be better prepared than last time. The yellow bellied serpent would be exposed and ceremonially roasted.

CREEP
mortonjag 2008-09-28 18:02:54
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Sep 28 2008, 04:35 PM) [snapback]519614[/snapback]
ARSE.....pm me your details and we will discuss that in person.....

Fed up with all your pish on this board. For a man of your supposive intellect you dont
half come over as a TIT.

Again if you want to discuss in person pm me your details...

Either put up or shut up

Mortonjag does not attack. If you wish to pick arguments choose somebody of your own limited intellect please. rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Sep 28 2008, 05:18 PM) [snapback]519625[/snapback]
I know...i know....

Just think hes a prime candidate for euthanasia

Ill step back....


As I said-your limited intellect lets you down repeatedly.

The highlighted comment is unacceptable.

You and your friend Vader's recent attacks merely represent the death throes of the weasel scumbag insider criticism to which Mortonjag has regularly been subjected.

Mr Rae would be SO proud. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 18:08:37
QUOTE(C B @ Sep 28 2008, 05:40 PM) [snapback]519635[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-09-28 18:22:44
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 28 2008, 06:11 PM) [snapback]519650[/snapback]
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury; I give you:
....your witness!

I haven't a clue what you're attempting to prove, Puggs, but your puerile bahaviour often lets you down badly.

It's quite simple-I NEVER attack unless I'm attacked first.

Do you believe that describing somebody as 'a prime candidate for euthanasia' falls into the same category as my deliberately scathing ripostes?

As I've said of you before, you would do better to spend some time on serious comment.

After all, you keep telling us you're 'a bright lad'! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 18:25:35
QUOTE(Savo @ Sep 28 2008, 06:23 PM) [snapback]519655[/snapback]
That's a pretty despicable statement there sad.gif

Thanks Savo-I just wish the insiders would give up their bitter and pointless attacks.
mortonjag 2008-09-29 06:39:23
QUOTE(allenton @ Sep 28 2008, 06:31 PM) [snapback]519658[/snapback]
I felt the team did a lot better today. I think if supporters keep talking the club and performances down then we will all need to visit our GP for prozac. Get behind the team and stop all the negative nonsense.

Morton supporters have a history of great loyalty to the 'Club' and the teams.

It's always nice to hear somebody like yourself trying to be positive, but it's the positively atrocious way the Club is being run which has finally seen most lose patience.

As Wonko said, and as I do, he gets behind the lads at every game. This is the place to complain - with a minute caveat since you're a new poster. Whisper you complaints or folk will be offering you euthanasia and hoping you die of cancer.

As I said initially-some have great 'loyalty' to the club.
mortonjag 2008-09-29 06:55:00
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Sep 28 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]519685[/snapback]
Much as you get a lot of unfair stick, you are one condescending auld git at times and it's unnecessary.

Thanks for the comment highlighted GG.

I'm feeling a wee bit peed off this morning-sometimes the 'stick' I get is a lot worse than unfair.

What do you make of two Cappielow insiders within a few hours of each other wishing cancer and euthanasia on me? I believe one of the posters has been 'warned'.

Now-let's look at this Mr X situation where you've seen fit to have a wee go!

I don't know the poster at all. So far as I'm aware we've never crossed swords in any way. Out of the blue he starts a post attacking (unfairly I believe) a player who works his baws off, and after I make a non contentious comment in Russell's support he comes away with:


Sorry, you're talking utter bollocks. You talk pish on here all the time and I very much doubt you've ever kicked a ball in your life.

........and you've the cheek to call MY response 'condescending'!!

I'm beginning to realsise GG that folk just read my posts in isolation and never bother about the preamble. mellow.gif


mortonjag 2008-09-29 07:02:25
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 29 2008, 12:38 AM) [snapback]519721[/snapback]
Russell's miss was every bit as bad as Jim's, probably worse.

Two blacks etc!


I'm just thinking that in the 'headless chicken' stakes Jimbo is miles ahead. That's what frustrates me. His play can be compared to getting a letter telling you you've won a million quid till you turn over the page and it says:

'Only joking'. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-29 07:05:03 If we were playing well I doubt if we'd have 'dream' threads about players we can't afford.
mortonjag 2008-09-29 07:09:30
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 28 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]519693[/snapback]
I'm bigger than you and allegedly my opinion is not my own but that of various books... rolleyes.gif

Are you very big? unsure.gif

QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Sep 28 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]519707[/snapback]
I am still puzzled at this, if the guy annoys you so much, why not put him on ignore? You have to react to anything he says that pisses you off, thats on you! rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 28 2008, 11:58 PM) [snapback]519712[/snapback]
The ignore function is rendered irrelevant by the sheer volume of his posts and the certainty that they'll be quoted.

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mortonjag 2008-09-29 09:27:22
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Sep 29 2008, 08:42 AM) [snapback]519736[/snapback]
Is this some sort of confession?

Do you take them regularly?

Do you prescribe them for yourself?

Being a medical practitioner can you not get yourself some help for this peculiar condition huh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-29 10:14:01
QUOTE(MrX @ Sep 29 2008, 10:03 AM) [snapback]519747[/snapback]
I'm sorry if these opinions come 'out of the blue', its only because I don't post on here a hundred times a day like some laugh.gif I'm sorry if my opinion of your blue-eyed boy disagrees with your bullet proof view of all things Morton, but its not only you and some other regular posters who are entiltled to an opinion .

And when you make childlike comments like,

"When you grow up and start to see the bigger picture, that will be the time for you to understand Mortonjag. For now I suggest you attempt to impress your peers."

You just come across as an old plonker with an over-inflated opinion of himself.
And as for understanding you Mortonjag, I'm not really overly bothered, you're not that important to me.... sorry.

It had absolutely nothing to do with my opinion about Iain Russell, or yours for that matter, and EVERYTHING to do with your initial comment (BEFORE I'D SAID ANYTHING TO YOU) viz.

Sorry, you're talking utter bollocks. You talk pish on here all the time and I very much doubt you've ever kicked a ball in your life
.


That comment was unwarranted and deliberately provocative, and implied that my opinions were worthless, which makes your current post utterly ludicrous.

Anyway it's nice to know that you're 'not really bothered' and that I'm 'not that important to you'.

The fact that you bothered to post your defensive response suggests otherwise, and the moral of the story is:

'Let sleeping dogs lie'. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-29 10:22:57
QUOTE(Savo @ Sep 29 2008, 10:08 AM) [snapback]519749[/snapback]
How a move from Morton to Falkirk could possibly be construed as a sideways step is beyond me.
They are an established SPL club with players being capped at U-21 and full international level.
The difference between Morton and Falkirk at the present moment is pretty stark and there is no point pretending otherwise.

That is unfortunately so true, and extremely sad, as the potential fan base for Morton is significantly larger than Falkirk's.

I get fed up hearing us described as a 'small' club. The truth is that excluding the seven well established City Clubs, no Scottish side is significantly bigger than the Ton could and should be.

I've believed for some time that a 'Mileson' figure-not a Romanov or Abramovic, but somebody with money and sufficient genuine interest in our club-could make us a profitable SPL outfit in a matter of two or three seasons-perhaps even less dependent on his initial outlay.

That's the main reason for my continuing quest to discover Alistair Donald's real intentions.
mortonjag 2008-09-29 10:27:04
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 29 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]519753[/snapback]
Eh, Happy 18th Birthday. blink.gif

Chill out, go and get a few sherberts and pull some bird.

He's already been sent a birthday card from his Uncle Ernie!
mortonjag 2008-09-29 10:35:53
QUOTE(Davie @ Sep 29 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]519755[/snapback]
Aye, hilarious. blink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-29 11:36:34
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 29 2008, 11:28 AM) [snapback]519760[/snapback]
I bet that will really make his day.

It was sent with every good wish.
mortonjag 2008-09-29 11:39:51
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 29 2008, 11:13 AM) [snapback]519759[/snapback]
He's always been the favourite Ernie in my life, sorry MJ.

No offence taken my Dear. I've always loved Muppet shows and faithfully go to Cappielow.
mortonjag 2008-09-29 12:58:44
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 29 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]519770[/snapback]
Yes, I make Port-ton look like a dwarf...
Aw thanks. wub.gif

Don't mention it-and it WAS sincere. I reckon that tall gangly glaicet looking fag o' mine's about six feet two so you must make Puggs look like Toulouse Lautrec! [attachment=4603:th_toulo..._lautrec.jpg]
mortonjag 2008-09-29 13:13:33
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Sep 29 2008, 01:11 PM) [snapback]519777[/snapback]
Ryan Harding is terrible, a honking defender who makes massive mistakes far too often!

Once again he has cost us points, sick of it.

I don't think i've ever hated a Morton player as much as i hate him.

GET YERSELF TAE f*** HARDING!

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mortonjag 2008-09-29 16:14:19
QUOTE(Muz @ Sep 29 2008, 02:46 PM) [snapback]519816[/snapback]
Glad to see someone noticed this on Saturday- everyone's quick to blame Russell for the miss after this, and a shocker it was too.....but he shouldn't have HAD to miss it.

McAlister's "pass" to Wake, behind him when they were running through was horrendous, and resulted in Wake breaking his stride, and then the only option was to play in Russell who blazed it over. If McAlister had played Wake in I'm sure the big man would have put it away.

As for Wake and he shouldnt have been on for last 30, I agree as he was completely knackered. But who to bring on????

Partaalu is completely gash and has baws like a mouse. Doesnt want the ball at all and looks to get rid of it at every opportunity. Should be dropped immediately.

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mortonjag 2008-09-29 16:19:41 I've been reading all the nice comments about my wee Nephew from Embra. Some of you lot would make a witches coven look like a knitting bee! laugh.gif

He's actually a better footballer than McAlister and makes less mistakes. The only difference is in where they play! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-29 16:23:28
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 29 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]519837[/snapback]
Morton will remain my team, i could not contemplate anyone else. BUT its f***ing boring, and I mean f***ING boring. I am sick of tossing around at the bottom of what is a very mediocre league.

If the owners cannot take us any further, and there isn't a ready replacement unsure.gif we have nothing, and i mean NOTHING to look forward too.
Its bloody miserable just now.
Fed up, pissed off, scunnered, sickened but most of all bored, extremely bored.

Someone posted that they enjoyed the game on Saturday, I can only assume the second half was dramatically better than the first as you know Savo I bolted to the pub as I could not endure anymore of the bollocks on display.

I posted I have seen worse from Morton in my life, but that was poorly paid, mostly part time players who gave their all despite being rubbish. This lot are well paid, full time pro's who don't seem to care an awful lot as long as the wages are paid. And no amount of crying to their old boss is going to help the situation.

Big Girls Blouses, get your fingers out your arses and start producing the goods.

Twas my good self Barbie!

I now await the abuse for saying something positive! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-29 16:27:12 I just can't believe how illogical you lot can be.

Irons should have substituted Pantaloons and Russell with about twenty minutes to go.

How can you say-substitututions COST us the game. IMO NOT doing the right thing at the right time because HE WAS SH!T scared to change anything, cost us a consolidating second goal. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-29 16:29:45
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 29 2008, 02:57 PM) [snapback]519821[/snapback]
Oh come on MJ. You're a big boy and you can take it as much as you dosh it out.

Who is MJ, Peter?
mortonjag 2008-09-29 16:32:23
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 29 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]519888[/snapback]
A defeat on Saturday and it'll probably be ta ta the noo for Irons. But that will depress me even more. Where would we go from there? 5 managers in 7 years ? Something seriously wrong somewhere surely.

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QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 29 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]519900[/snapback]
biggrin.gif Indeed. A blind man sees and states the obvious.

Would that this had always been so!
mortonjag 2008-09-29 17:19:27
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 29 2008, 04:47 PM) [snapback]519918[/snapback]
It's my pet name for you Douglas.

I dislike pet names Peter. I once had a dog called JM. He bit me and had to be put down.
mortonjag 2008-09-29 17:25:45
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 29 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]519908[/snapback]
Shouting, and jumping up and down with flailing arms doesn't necessarily mean that you care more than a less demonstrative individual. And so far, the 'caring demonstrations' haven't had an effect on the results. Right now we look like relegation candidates, I sincerely hope Irons can turn things round, but he will realise himself that he's on borrowed time.

Irons' behaviour in the 'technical' area is becoming more erratic by the week. He bawls instructions from beginning to end, and is constantly calling players over for wee briefings. You can see by the body language that they don't pay the slightest heed. He disputes EVERY decision against us with the ref and linesman, even when it's obviously been a complete 50/50.

I remember watching us beat Gretna at Palmerston when his behaviour was exactly the same. I don't think he can help himself, and I don't think it helps the players at all.
mortonjag 2008-09-29 17:31:40
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 29 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]519948[/snapback]
Exactly what he is not, and one of the reasons I don't think he will last. DDF was reduced to talking to Irons on the pitch as he has tried to keep the old yin out the dressing room.

Did nobody tell DI that DDF is the real manager. rolleyes.gif

...and if God believes he can't control DI/players through the dressing room, he will approach the players individually, and the players will then think they can gripe to God behind DI's back. ph34r.gif

It's an old technique called 'divide and rule' of which Mr Rae is a past master, and it's been killing the club he 'saved' for a long, long time.
mortonjag 2008-09-29 17:33:36
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Sep 29 2008, 05:29 PM) [snapback]519952[/snapback]
blink.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif I await your reasoning on that one.

You may wait a long time Ratarse! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-29 17:43:30
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 29 2008, 05:36 PM) [snapback]519956[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-09-29 18:00:46
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 29 2008, 05:52 PM) [snapback]519968[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Sep 29 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]519965[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Why not people are on here stating he is the problem let him know at the games.
Shhhh, Donkey Dave is on and we all know the duplicity he displays. Damn, too late, he will have already taken note and sent it first class morse code to the old yin.

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mortonjag 2008-09-29 19:16:19
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Sep 29 2008, 06:55 PM) [snapback]520008[/snapback]
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Wise words.

Flagpole snail?
mortonjag 2008-09-29 19:20:41 Would two or three excellent results be enough? Has DI just gone through a spell of incredibly bad luck? Those things DO happen in football. We're not quite a quarter of the way along the journey. Maybe it's too early to 'phone the undertakers.
mortonjag 2008-09-29 19:24:15
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 29 2008, 07:21 PM) [snapback]520014[/snapback]
Is Viagra still free on the NHS?

Nothing is free on the NHS!
mortonjag 2008-09-29 19:26:29
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 29 2008, 07:25 PM) [snapback]520017[/snapback]
Not even the snip?

ESPECIALLY not the snip!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-29 19:28:11
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 29 2008, 07:26 PM) [snapback]520019[/snapback]
that is not strictly true

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I'm sure you're about to explain! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-29 19:28:57
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 29 2008, 07:27 PM) [snapback]520022[/snapback]
Alcohol.

RU18?
mortonjag 2008-09-29 19:38:24
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 29 2008, 07:28 PM) [snapback]520025[/snapback]
Of course!
Are you being serious, are people that gullable

Sean-you say you worked in insurance. There's one point I'd like to make and you can comment as an 'expert'.

Folk are saying Kaney will lose his NCB anyway.

Am I correct in stating that under the terms of his insurance argeement he's only obliged to REPORT the accident, giving full details. He can add a wee letter making it very clear that 'This is submitted as a 'no fault' claim'. If his insurance company can have the full cost met by the other party his NCB should be unaffected????

mortonjag 2008-09-29 19:48:30
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 29 2008, 07:46 PM) [snapback]520037[/snapback]
I was not, I was just stating that to some the NHS is 100% free.

Don't start me! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-29 20:18:47
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 29 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]520040[/snapback]
I was not trying to, just stating that your previous post was not necessarily fact.

What I meant was that SOMEBODY always has to pay! It's not as if wee Nickerless raids Bawheid's secret stash when he's out in the garden shed studying Mein Kampf.
mortonjag 2008-09-29 20:26:41
QUOTE(Jackie @ Sep 29 2008, 07:37 PM) [snapback]520031[/snapback]
I can understand the gullable comment, that's fair enough but what is the point in lying when the truths already on your side? As my teachers were forever telling me "keep it simple, stupid."

Lying will always come back to get you.

I wish it was all so simple Jackie. My experience of life has confirmed to me without a shadow of doubt that-at least in this society- the honest guys rarely win.

I'm sure it all gets sorted out on the day of judgement.

There must be justice somewhere!

mortonjag 2008-09-29 20:27:51
QUOTE(Zutons @ Sep 29 2008, 08:21 PM) [snapback]520052[/snapback]
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Tell Laura I love her.
mortonjag 2008-09-29 20:31:52
QUOTE(Deego @ Sep 29 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]520059[/snapback]
ya b*****d. laugh.gif

Who's the p***k with the guitar?
mortonjag 2008-09-29 20:33:31
QUOTE(Zutons @ Sep 29 2008, 08:31 PM) [snapback]520061[/snapback]
Wrong, Each person has two guesses.

It wasn't a guess-it's the name of a HAUNTING OLD CHOON!
mortonjag 2008-09-29 20:36:40
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 29 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]520064[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Sep 29 2008, 05:24 PM) [snapback]519944[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Or Irons could grow a set of baws and tell him to F-C- off and stay away from thing that don't concern him, Rae may be the owner but the dressingroom and team matters are sacrosanct and he employed the manager let him manage. So Dougie if you do read this rag stay away.

Some Morton fans think it's fine for Rae to get involved in team matters because he owns the club. Halfwits like that are an issue as well.

They know who they are. dry.gif

EXCELLENT POINT-and if the old fud were finally to succeed in doing a Hugh's Cot, they would hold their hands up and protest 'Ah didnae ken' ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 06:37:34 Many happy returns to Padre Gamgee and Irn Bru blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 06:40:56
QUOTE(jpmil @ Sep 29 2008, 09:44 PM) [snapback]520101[/snapback]
You are completely correct. He is on my ignore list but he is quoted so often in replies that it is totally impossible to avoid his input of verbal diarrhoea. However one can but hope that he finally runs out of steam as it seems impossible to maintain such a volume of postings. The again I may be undestimating the man!

That's one of the kindest things I've ever heard from a 'huff buttoner'. Shame you'll never know you pleased the forum's vital spark! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 06:43:32
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Sep 29 2008, 10:20 PM) [snapback]520118[/snapback]
What kind of put down did you give him? " your mangey, you smell when you've been out in the rain...you dont even try to find a job..and dont give me the 'your just a dog' excuse JM!!! rolleyes.gif

I was replying to a fellow poster.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 06:51:44
QUOTE(jpmil @ Sep 29 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]520095[/snapback]
There are recurring statements on here about DDFR's interference in the dressing room BUT does anyone have proof of this or is it just the rumour factory working overtime?????

When circumstantial evidence is overwhelming; when Rae engages DI in 15 minute pre match briefings on the pitch at away matches, and openly tells folk at hospitality that 'he helped pick today's side' we still have the 'jpmil's of this world. No wonder Santa Claus is still as popular as shagging.

QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Sep 29 2008, 09:35 PM) [snapback]520098[/snapback]
I think 'was' would be correct word would it not? I can't believe a Doctor put together a sentence like that, but then again ........... laugh.gif laugh.gif

You think wrongly Anus. Why do you needlessly make an arse of yourself? wub.gif


The Subjunctive Mood

A verb is in the subjunctive mood when it expresses a condition which is doubtful or not factual. It is most often found in a clause beginning with the word if. It is also found in clauses following a verb that expresses a doubt, a wish, regret, request, demand, or proposal.

These are verbs typically followed by clauses that take the subjunctive:

ask, demand, determine, insist, move, order, pray, prefer, recommend, regret, request, require, suggest, and wish.

In English there is no difference between the subjunctive and normal, or indicative, form of the verb except for the present tense third person singular and for the verb to be.

The subjunctive for the present tense third person singular drops the -s or -es so that it looks and sounds like the present tense for everything else.

The subjunctive mood of the verb to be is be in the present tense and were in the past tense, regardless of what the subject is.

Incorrect: If I was you, I would run.

Correct: If I were you, I would run.

(The verb follows if and expresses a non-factual condition.)

Incorrect: I wish he was able to type faster.

Correct: I wish he were able to type faster.
(The second verb is in a clause following a verb expressing a wish. It also suggests a non-factual or doubtful condition.)
mortonjag 2008-09-30 07:00:42
QUOTE(Mark_Pickering @ Sep 29 2008, 10:52 PM) [snapback]520125[/snapback]
live is life

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mortonjag 2008-09-30 07:05:40
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 30 2008, 03:22 AM) [snapback]520146[/snapback]
We were on top of them the whole game apart from when the wind and rain made it impossible for us to attack in the firs thalf, they never looked like scoring. We should have scored more but our strikers did their job, they gave us the lead which is what they're paid to do, it was the defences job to maintain that lead for us espescially going into the last 5 minutes of a game. Smith was diving into tackles, Shimmin was brilliant as usual and Walker didn't do much wrong, that leaves Harding who continually lost his battles for headers and who s*** out of at least 5 tackles in the game before the one that cost us the goal. He shouldn't even be on the park when he's playing like that nevermind being captain.

Don't get what you mean blame the whole game on mate, we were excellent for 80 odd minutes and yet again Ryan Hardings lack of concentration has cost us, it isn't the first time and unfortunately it won't be the last time.

Ryan Harding is also to blame for the rising cost of living, the credit crunch, this year's bad summer, and my brother's piles.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 07:14:48 I sincerely believe that if Mr Rae had been willing to delegate totally the running of the Club from day one, we could currently be in the SPL and profitable.

That would have taken vision and experience but COULD have been achieved on the strength of Golden Casket's dosh-of that I'm convinced.

It would have required financial vision and experience on the playing side. People with such skills exist. Some may have regarded the re-born Ton as a real challenge.

For me that is the greatest sadness of all.

Rae will NEVER be remembered for saving Morton if he contrives to choke it to death.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 08:05:12
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Sep 30 2008, 07:20 AM) [snapback]520163[/snapback]
You are right. The thing that annoys me the most, and helps keep me on the left, is the double speak of free-marketeers. We are expected to let the market set the price when things are hunky-dory, but not when the doo-doo is hitting the fan. My mortgage is with the Principality, one of the few mutuals left. Are there any other mutuals left?
Irrespective of who wins the next election. Governments can cope with high unemployment, as shown when that woman was in charge. But they can't cope with the high inflation that your suggested 10% would lead to. The flip of a 10% mortgage rate is similar savings rate. It would be just like printing money and Keynes' theory of Aggregate Demand doesn't really work these days. No Government would survive if they let that happen.







The interest rates have fluctuated wildly over the last 30 years, reaching a massive 17% in Nov 1979 during one of the boom bust cycles of last century
mortonjag 2008-09-30 08:08:32 Losing
Again
Under
Rae's
Authority
mortonjag 2008-09-30 08:44:16
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 30 2008, 08:26 AM) [snapback]520169[/snapback]
No you weren't, you were playing our little game of Dougie and Peter. It's a wee bit like Hamish and Dougal on 'I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue'.....now there's an irony given that this is a Morton message board. laugh.gif

I'll have you know I am Douglas, Peter - Dougal is a teuchter name and I am not a teuchter.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 08:46:58
QUOTE(forza ton @ Sep 30 2008, 08:38 AM) [snapback]520172[/snapback]
i remember saying on here a year or so ago that the rampant and obscene version of capitalism prevalent in today's world was going to take us all up s*** creek. some agreed some didn't. i suppose it was obvious really but who's gonna carry the can? not the top men anyway - they never do.

i'm no communist but for capitalism to work in anything like a fair manner (if possible at all) governments need to keep a reign on things. it's funny how after all the years of privatising our services and gung ho "investments" we're back to a place where nationalisation is no longer a dirty taboo.

here comes a winter of discontent....



QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 30 2008, 08:43 AM) [snapback]520173[/snapback]
I think in simple terms, the financial institutions were quite happy to take huge profits and huge bonuses when they could. Now that they are making losses, they want the taxpayer, that's you and me, to bail them out. Some of them even want to continue to get their huge bonuses maintained FFS.

Now call me naive, but if my business doesn't make a profit, I don't eat. If I asked the government to bail me out, they'd tell me where to go. I don't think it should be any different for these overpaid parasites - bankers and their like don't actually do anything that benefits society, they don't produce anything - they just leech of those who do. I think it's fair to say I would have very little sympathy for those obscenely overpaid people who are even now trying to line their own pockets while they throw the people who do all the hard work on the scrapheap.

Oh, and on the matter of Bradford and Bingley - isn't it strange how Northern Rock and B&B got helped by the UK government in the way they did, with billions of pounds of OUR money thrown at them, yet when there is a totally false "crisis" with the Bank of Scotland, Gordon Emotionally Crippled Brown fails to offer any support other than trying to grease a sleazy wee stitch up to get them under control of a London-based organisation, purely for his own political ends. Psychologically flawed indeed although some would just say he's a C U Next Tuesday. Oh and BTW does anyone else think Gordon Brown bears a striking similarity to Mussolini when he speaks - it's the sort of half closing of the eyes and the way he turns his nose up, or something like that, but it looks as if Mussolini was his speech coach.

Anyway to get back on topic, I for one don't feel inclined to pay more taxes to help out these parasitical scum.


Greed is an unpleasant sin when one is on the receiving end.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 09:02:53
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 30 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]520181[/snapback]
Like Greacen was, Harding has been coached to stay on his feet and only slide in as a last resort. He had a howler for the goal but what other player did'nt make mistakes? How many chances did Russell Wake and McAlister pass up between them, just as a for example! Not putting away our chances cost us the game far more so than anything Harding did.

If the forwards don't score it puts pressure on the back players not to make mistakes but no one is going to go through 90 minutes without making some - not at our level. Sometimes you get lucky and it does'nt cost us a goal (like some of Smith's errors in the first half until he got the measure of Harper). Unfortunately a central defender's errors are always going to look bad because a high percentage will cost a goal.

Harding is a decent footballer who needs to work on his concentration. He's not perfect but he's better than any fit player we have for now - were you at Airdrie? Greacen might replace him when he's fit but there's not much in it imho.

I agree, and in fairness to the strikers, they WILL score if enough chances are made so we then have to look at an unproductive midfield and our lack of width, which takes us back to Davie Irons!
mortonjag 2008-09-30 10:08:36
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 30 2008, 08:45 AM) [snapback]520176[/snapback]
Do you hang your posters on the skirting?

If he did he'd constantly be tripping over the nipples.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 10:17:52
QUOTE(jpmil @ Sep 30 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]520186[/snapback]
Is it common knowledge?
I certainly don't have any proof that this was the situation. Have any of the ex-managers or other ex-employees stated publicly that he interferes? I certainly haven't seen any such statements in the press!

It is common knowledge that Mr Rae is wont to get involved in every aspect of the running of the club.

It is common knowledge that he's told at least one poster that he 'helps to pick the sides'.


It is common knowledge that he distracts the Manager from the warm up briefings with lengthy 'chats'.

It is common knowledge that certain posters will fly in the face of all that, in an attempt to suggest that Mr Rae does not 'interfere with the dressing room'!

Do you think that ex-victims of 'Rae rape' are going to post the sordid details of their traumatic experiences all over the tabloids? unsure.gif



mortonjag 2008-09-30 11:50:13
QUOTE(The Hustler @ Sep 30 2008, 11:43 AM) [snapback]520231[/snapback]
I am always slightly dubious when I hear that assistants are "widely credited " for the success of a team. There have been many instances when the assistant has been highly unsuccessful when taking on the mantle of No 1. (Peter Taylor, Brian Kidd, Archie Knox to name but a few)
The reality is that Irons almost blew an unassailable lead when taking over at Gretna in the 1st Div, got stuffed by McInallys Morton who were struggling at the time, had a very poor record with Morton last season which was camouflaged somewhat by 2 victories versus teams who simply didnt turn up (Pars and Thistle) and has had a horrendous start this year with effectively his own team.
The standard of football is dreadful, selections and formations are inconsistent (downright bizarre at Airdrie with his 3-1-3-3) the crowds are down and he has "lost the dressing room". Who knows why he signed Newby in the first place but by letting him go he has left us with no options up front. Sadly the current team will not score enough goals to keep us in the division. And of course our defending has been poor again helped by the inconsistency of selection and the absence of full backs in competitive games. Why would you play two full backs (Reid & Smith) for the majority of pre season and not sign them albeit Smith has eventually been added? Why would anyone give Greachen a 3 year deal? Or sign a 33 year old centre half and give him a 3 year deal? Now we have 4 centre halves a young boy at left back and a converted right back who is overweight and injury prone? Why give Finlayson a 3 year deal? Or Weatherson? Jenkins is possibly our best midfielder and most probably our highest paid player yet he wont play him because Jenkins thinks he`s an incompetent. McAnespie has been on the bench for how many games yet we want rid of him? What is he doing on the bench exactly? I understand that the wage bill has increased significantly yet the team is poor and riddled with players simply not good enough at this level. By dishing out all of those lengthy contracts he has jeapordised our future by saddling us with average players who no one else will be remotely interested in. As for all his jumping up and down and remonstrating with officials over every decision, quite frankly, I find it embarassing and juvenile. I suggest all of you Irons supporters take a wee look at his performance on the Gretna BBC documentary and you will quickly understand why they nearly blew promotion. The sooner he gets sacked the better for all of us.

Best post on the thread by a country mile.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 11:53:01
QUOTE(McCauley87 @ Sep 30 2008, 11:46 AM) [snapback]520232[/snapback]
He came into the shop I was working in on Friday (I work for Ladbrokes) and he was talking away to the guy I was working with who used to play with Russell at Motherwell and so knows a number of the squad quite well and all Deano was saying was criticising Irons about the Caley Thistle game, even though he admitted he never seen the game.

I always like Deano for his commitment and his energy, and it is something that I reckon our midfield is missing at the moment, but he didn';t ahev a great deal of ability yet he obviously seems to think he does from what was said on Friday and then in the Sun yesterday.

Deano wasn't scared to 'have a go'. It would be nice if some of the current midfield could take a lesson from his book.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 12:06:11
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 30 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]520238[/snapback]
Its Dougie deflecting the blame. rolleyes.gif biggrin.gif
1 game to go cool.gif

Rae can spin it whatever way he likes till he's blue in the face. He COULD have signed an experienced manager.

HE DIDN'T mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 12:07:38
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 30 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]520237[/snapback]
Although he is still s***e mind you

Diarrhoea may at times be preferable to constipation Ghostie! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 12:08:57
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 30 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]520247[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif

Don't lose that oar now or you will be up, ach you know where.

Rae's creek?
mortonjag 2008-09-30 12:11:24
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 30 2008, 12:09 PM) [snapback]520250[/snapback]
I trust my prostitutes implicitly ohmy.gif

Where are your business premises?
mortonjag 2008-09-30 12:12:32
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 30 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]520248[/snapback]
Aye, but the economy is a bit s***ty too.
Inflation will recede soon if wage rises are pegged back, but even then there's little money left (in the government sectors especially) for pay rises.

I read that too.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 12:16:13
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 30 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]520254[/snapback]
Don't give me that one old yin, your barred after the last visit. sad.gif

50p for a blow job from a donkey was not on.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 12:19:12
QUOTE(The Hustler @ Sep 30 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]520244[/snapback]
Interesting that he said positive things about McInally though. I seem to recall this forum going overboard in criticising McInally the day he brought Deano on as a sub at Stirling and then took him off 10 minutes later. Certainly Deano was not happy that day with McInally but still has good stuff to say about him. Says a lot about Mcinallys man management qualities.
Clearly a short time with Irons was enough for Deano to make up his mind that he`s a t***. By all accounts a view shared by many of the players.
Time to go Irons.

It may say much more about DI's lack of them .
mortonjag 2008-09-30 12:20:37
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Sep 30 2008, 12:17 PM) [snapback]520257[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Sep 30 2008, 05:57 AM) [snapback]520150[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->That is an outrageous statement that some of the players don't try NAME THEM. What I would say to you is a few of them are short on confidence right now but to say that some of them don't try is ridiculous.
yes , absolute P1sh.

Absolut vodka?
mortonjag 2008-09-30 12:24:07
QUOTE(The Hustler @ Sep 30 2008, 12:19 PM) [snapback]520260[/snapback]
I aint Dougie Barbie, just a long suffering supporter.
I wholeheartedly agree that Rae should keep his nose out of the managers affairs. Then maybe I wouldnt have had to suffer the likes of Templeman who is showing his true colours now as he cant get a game with East Fife.
You employ a manager to manage is my view. There is no doubt it is somewhat embarassing for Rae to be in the dressing room giving his pep talks. Maybe Rae is the reason for our failure to get an experienced manager on the many occasions we have been looking for a new manager. Of course he never wanted McInally to leave, he chose to go because of fan abuse.
As far as I'm concerned its definitely a case of "be careful what you wish for". We have ended up with a truly dreadful manager who will get us relegated unless we get rid.

Possibly true, though I'd guess that if he disappears sooner rather than later, it'll more be because he's at least had the passion to ATTEMPT to stand up to God, even if the same passion sees him losing the dressing room and behaving like a clown in the technical area.[attachment=4612:irons.jpg]
mortonjag 2008-09-30 12:26:33
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 30 2008, 12:18 PM) [snapback]520258[/snapback]
Awe c'mon jag, Dave has been practising hard on old men, i'm sure if you returned he will meet your standards now or your 50p back.

Look Fifi, when I ask for a blow job I don't expect a rough tongue up my arse.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 12:30:31
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 30 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]520263[/snapback]
Laura

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mortonjag 2008-09-30 12:33:58
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 30 2008, 12:30 PM) [snapback]520274[/snapback]
And McInally was the answer?

We will forever get young managers who are trying to cut their teeth as they are more susceptible to allowing DDF to influence or 'coach' them, any manager worth his salt would throw him out and face the consequences, but remember Morton usually demand a clause when sacking a manager that he is not allowed to discuss what went on.

If DDF has true ambition for Morton he will leave the current manager alone and if he feels it time for DI to go the next manager needs to be a hard nosed b*****d who will

1. Weed out those in the Morton dressing room who don't deserve to pull on our shirt

2. Tell DDF to f*** right off when he attempts to interfere.

But how is this to be implemented, simple it won't, DDF cannot stay out of it. The only option left is for DDF to take charge and we can see if he is as good a manager as he thinks he is.

Bring it on! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 12:48:17
QUOTE(The Hustler @ Sep 30 2008, 12:38 PM) [snapback]520280[/snapback]
A new owner, with money to burn and the interests of Morton at heart would be terrific. However is that likely? No-one was intersted when we were at deaths door so why would anyone be interested now? We are a guaranteed money loser, as are most football clubs to be fair and right now Mr Rae is the only individual who seems to be willing to lose his own money. For that we should be grateful.
Until the knight in the white charger arrives we will just need to hope that he bumps Irons and lands lucky by appointing a good manager, with contacts, who can motivate the current set of players and perhaps add a couple of loanees who have a similar impact than McGowan.
What a shame that Dougie didnt dig far deeper to fund the purchase of wee Paul. In the long run he may well have saved himself a lot of cash!

If Mr Donald is to be believed he fulfils those criteria.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 12:51:43
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 30 2008, 12:38 PM) [snapback]520281[/snapback]
That will be another 50p please.
I pay them the on top rate
Forever on the job, up, down, up, down, up.....
I kept a week lieu time for the perverts
They are charged 'extra' for leaving 'deposits'
They blow as a matter of course, profits can be massive.

And unless they give you pro motion you shaft them for their wages?
mortonjag 2008-09-30 12:57:24
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 30 2008, 12:48 PM) [snapback]520286[/snapback]
Not sure about the last line, but everything that went before it is absolutely on the nail.

His record as a manager on his own is nothing short of appalling - and he had plenty of good players still left at Gretna to pick from. He single handedly almost blew what should have been a stroll to the SPL.

Say what you like about Alexander but he delivered the goods - and if indeed Irons was a key instrument in that success, then by default Rowan must have managed him well, indeed just as he managed Mileson well.
Alexander wanted players, he identified them, he got them - they were good players - he won three back to back leagues - and he made the decisions that mattered, not Irons, not Mileson.

Anyway, I'm starting to ramble. The only point I was making when I started this thread is that the manager's record on his own is nothing short of s***e - with two teams and substantial resources. There are plenty of other managers in the same divisions he came through who have delivered more, and continue to deliver way more with a fraction of his resources but ten times his football nous.




The Rae deal is incidental or would be incidental to any manager worth his salt. Part of being a manager is not being given the choice to manage, it's DEMANDING that your in charge or else why would you be there. Anytime my boss is poking his nose in more than I think he should be, he is met with my bog standard "if you're doing my job and I'm doing my job at least one of us doesn't need to be here. You choose".

Fifteen years later I'm still here - but without complete control of my resources, my budget and my strategies then I would walk in the morning. As would any good manager - football or otherwise.

TonInDublin

Something which puzzles me:

Rae's reputation must surely be well known among the footballing fraternity. Derek Collins surely knew what things were like.

Why did they take the job?
mortonjag 2008-09-30 14:07:30
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Sep 30 2008, 01:38 PM) [snapback]520295[/snapback]
Was Collins not Dougie's inside man in the dressing room afore he decided to be his own inside man?

Not sure what you are suggesting-Irons gets the boot and 'sookie' takes over???
mortonjag 2008-09-30 14:14:40
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 30 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]520302[/snapback]
This sounds a bit like I'm defending Rae here but to say we could be in the SPL due to the strength of GC doesn't make sense to me.
No idea what GC turns over but if I had a company that turned over say £6m on a 50% gross margin I would be looking to reinvest in that company and not spend my cash on a loss making part of my 'empire'. Used to be 'local boys made good' that owned football clubs but that's not enough anymore. Only the seriously wealthy can afford to run a loss making enterprise.
The way forward for clubs Mortons size is community buy outs. No idea what Morton FC is worth but let's say £1.5m. A hardcore fanebase of 2,500 buy shares to the value of £600 and there's your £1.5m. Not as daft as it sounds.




That would have taken vision and experience but COULD have been achieved on the strength of Golden Casket's dosh-of that I'm convinced.

Operative words 'on the strength of', Peter-not 'using up'. I'm quite sure that if the correct people had been in place from day one, GC would NEVER have been allowed to be 'the bank', but Mr Rae's indulgence would have started us out on a strong footing and with decent collateral.

Community buyout is a wonderful idea-I'll chuck in my £600 right now if you can make it a 'goer'!
mortonjag 2008-09-30 14:18:55
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 30 2008, 01:53 PM) [snapback]520299[/snapback]
Morton chatter for this dry.gif

(PS, I'll reply to your PM tonight...not had the time yet)

smile.gif Rae's creek
mortonjag 2008-09-30 14:29:11
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 30 2008, 02:15 PM) [snapback]520311[/snapback]
A more positive attitude and support from all.

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Smile though your heart is aching
Smile even though its breaking
When there are clouds in the sky, youll get by
If you smile through your fear and sorrow
Smile and maybe tomorrow
Youll see the sun come shining through for you

Light up your face with gladness
Hide every trace of sadness
Although a tear may be ever so near
Thats the time you must keep on trying
Smile, whats the use of crying?
Youll find that life is still worthwhile
If you just smile



Thats the time you must keep on trying
Smile, whats the use of crying?
Youll find that life is still worthwhile
If you just smile

smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 14:47:08
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 30 2008, 02:33 PM) [snapback]520317[/snapback]
Usually after singlehandedly bringing your children up and putting up with years of pish mind you.

I give you Mrs Rae:[attachment=4611:th_36e80811.jpg]
mortonjag 2008-09-30 14:50:08
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Sep 30 2008, 02:36 PM) [snapback]520318[/snapback]
It has to be remembered that Gretna lost Stevie Tosh who was by far their best player just before Alexander was put out on gardening/sick leave. It should also be remembered that there was a lot of uncertainty around Gretna for the entireity of Irons' stint in charge (in terms of Irons' position, what Wadsworth was doing, Alexanders antics and the financial situation).

I actually agree with the majority of your post, but I don't think things were quite and black and white at Gretna as you've portrayed it.
I'd be surprised if there are any professional clubs who didn't have such a clause nowadays.
Because it was better than impending unemployment?

For sure!
mortonjag 2008-09-30 16:13:59
QUOTE(cmdc @ Sep 30 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]520341[/snapback]
Irons touchline behaviour is nothing you wouldn't see from guys like Bilic, Scolari or O'Neill who are all absolute lunatics on the touchline, who constantly cajole their players and contest decisions, and who are all, also, very very good managers.

I honestly think it's neither here nor there that Irons behaves that way.
..nor, incidentally, do I think McInally's more passive demeanour said anything at all about his ability to manage or influence his players.

Maybe you're right. The difference is that the others you quoted have been successful, and DI is so far a failure.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 16:18:12
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 30 2008, 03:54 PM) [snapback]520347[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-09-30 16:41:48
QUOTE(cmdc @ Sep 30 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]520366[/snapback]
I'd maybe qualify that a little. So far, this season it would be hard to say anything other than we are failing, but keeping us up last year was a success. I don't think many people leaving Clyde's 2-1 win at Cappielow, and looking at our run in, would have envisaged us avoiding the play-offs.

We've got a great chance, away to Ross County and home to Clyde, to put some points on the board - and if we can build on some of our recent performances, against Queen of the South and Dunfermline, then we'll be capable of getting them.

Davie Irons wasn't a great favourite until we came good in our last two matches against two 'tired' sides. In particular we blew an absolute cruncher at Broadwood-that was a MUST win and we didn't.

I think DI is a very intelligent man with excellent coaching qualifications but he's utterly 'wet behind the ears' in terms of management/man management, and he's trying to contend with Rae and his little boys at the same time.

If he can pull a rabbit out of the hat, I'll be first to salute the magician, but I fear his days at Morton may be numbered. I also believe that for him it's maybe best to move on.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 16:45:56
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 30 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]520367[/snapback]
Is it at all possible that Cappie the Cat can be bagged up in a coal sack and launched into the JWD.

....or delivered to the Jag's cellar!!! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 16:52:31
QUOTE(cmdc @ Sep 30 2008, 04:47 PM) [snapback]520376[/snapback]
It was a point away from home which helped to keep us up! And whether the opposition were tired or not, they still had to be beaten, and in order to keep us up they still had to be beaten well; so I'm inclined to say it that that initial part of his job was a success.

Hindsight is wonderful!!!
mortonjag 2008-09-30 16:58:57
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Sep 30 2008, 04:43 PM) [snapback]520374[/snapback]
I am positively convinced that we'll end the quarter with our first league win of the season at Victoria Park on Saturday. I think those of us going will probably create a good atmosphere, and the few hundred Ton fans that are there will be rewarded for making the long journey north to Dingwall.

Is anybody else sure we'll do it, or is it just a case of hope for most?

I was convinced we'd beat Dunfermline on Saturday at home. I'm convinced the Manager 'blew it' by not consolidating our one goal lead when we had the Pars on the back foot. Subs SHOULD have been made with about twenty minutes left but DI's schoolmaster ego made that a non-event.

Ross County have a great home support-they will be well 'up for it'. Maybe some of our squad may see this as a chance to finally get rid of 'bossy boots'.

I'm not in the slightest optimistic TBH! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 17:01:21
QUOTE(Zutons @ Sep 30 2008, 04:50 PM) [snapback]520378[/snapback]
Correct

For Dingwall away dressing room at 4.50 p.m. Saturday?
mortonjag 2008-09-30 17:06:19
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Sep 30 2008, 05:00 PM) [snapback]520381[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Sep 30 2008, 05:57 AM) [snapback]520150[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->That is an outrageous statement that some of the players don't try NAME THEM. What I would say to you is a few of them are short on confidence right now but to say that some of them don't try is ridiculous.
ok no roblem lets start from the back, mcmanus, woeful, mcguffie and partaluu aint turned up this season, masterton, granted he may have had other things on his mind, played well in the game against calley so that was a start. weaterson................nuff said but i hope that he may be starting to get interested again but for how long. i hate bringing down our players but its plain to see the effort aint been there from some but certainly from others who carry the team.

I'm not one to single out individual players AJC, but what hit me right between the eyes was that our cup performances (when the players have been in the 'shop window') have been as good as our league performances have been bad. I wouldn't say the boys are deliberately trying to 'throw' games, but there is more than one way of skinning a cat.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 17:09:09
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 30 2008, 05:04 PM) [snapback]520383[/snapback]
On the point that people were making about DDFR interfering. I was driving home from Greenock the day of the Partick game. I was listening to Radio Scotland and the featured game from the SFL was us against the plastic whistle. The reporter read out the teams and played a short interview with DI when he said he couldn't believe what he just saw. Apparently DDFR shouted over DI from the other side of the pitch to talk to him, right in the middle of the warm up. The reporter was flabbergasted at this.
Now if an outside reporter with no connections to either club, as far as I could gather, can see how ridiculous this is, why can't DDFR see the same thing. Even other people are commenting on this. Stop meddling Mr Rae mad.gif

I sense it's about time to start a poll on Rae, but by God Weegie, I'm not starting it! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 17:19:52
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 30 2008, 05:13 PM) [snapback]520388[/snapback]
laugh.gif Wimp.

Don't be daft Weegie-I just want INDEPENDENT opinion-not a 'vote against the Jag's motion'!

I believe that a simple poll (the results of which would go back to Mr Rae via his on board spies) would clarify how folk really feel.

Something like-'Is it time for Mr Rae to take a sidestep and delegate the running of the club to others'. Yes/No.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 17:31:33
QUOTE(cmdc @ Sep 30 2008, 05:26 PM) [snapback]520393[/snapback]
If you want to send a message back, I think better than a poll would be a thread called 'Ask the Chairman'. Based on a recent suggestion that Rae should do an honest and frank interview in the 'tele, everyone with a reasonable question to ask can add a question to the thread, and after a few days the questions could be collected and emailed directly to the club and/or 'tele, like a petition. If the thread was widely supported, and the questions reasonable enough, it could prove difficult to simply ignore.

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mortonjag 2008-09-30 17:35:12
QUOTE(giz @ Sep 30 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]520358[/snapback]
Can anyone post a picture of Joe in his Morton days?
I'm sure I'll find one in old books and can scan it but if anyone does then please send me an email or drop a link on here.

Its for an Italian guy who is setting up a web site devoted to Joe..god knows how he got my name!

http://www.spanglefish.com/joejordan/

http://www.calcioscozzese.it/index.html

Problem is that Joe never really hit it off at Cappielow.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 17:50:29
QUOTE(cmdc @ Sep 30 2008, 05:39 PM) [snapback]520399[/snapback]
All I'm saying is that there are more proactive ways of making opinions directly known to, or asking questions of, the club...particularly if communication one of the things you are looking for.

Fair enough-start the thread!
mortonjag 2008-09-30 17:55:12 Common sense prevails for once in the immigration morass!
mortonjag 2008-09-30 18:15:25
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 30 2008, 06:12 PM) [snapback]520408[/snapback]
Usual Junior doctor fate, works silly hours, studies lots when not working for the next lot of professional exams.

......and tells her Grandchildren about the 'old days' in the NHS?
mortonjag 2008-09-30 18:23:08
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 30 2008, 06:10 PM) [snapback]520407[/snapback]
Bravo, a reasonable call sir. tongue.gif

Excluded on all three counts?


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mortonjag 2008-09-30 18:32:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 30 2008, 06:26 PM) [snapback]520411[/snapback]
that is much better than

Losing Always under Rae's anachronism

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mortonjag 2008-09-30 18:34:09
QUOTE(leyTON @ Sep 30 2008, 06:28 PM) [snapback]520412[/snapback]
like some mudslinging at the Scottish Govt when it isnt their fault perhaps?
a lot of sympathy for the strikers but if we are looking at schools etc being shut for days at a time then it will erode im afraid

Hmm

Should a workforce be denied the 'right to withdraw its labour'?
mortonjag 2008-09-30 18:52:16
QUOTE(Kaney @ Sep 30 2008, 06:48 PM) [snapback]520419[/snapback]
Thanks for all the feedback folks.
Managed to get all the photos printed in Tesco and wrote up our wee unfortunate series of events.
Im not claiming my insurance atall actually, its actually my other half's own policy on her Motobility car. We were up shopping for her gran, getting the winter gear in for the seniors, know? ph34r.gif

Once again though, thanks for all the comments. I'll be sure to let ye know what that outcome is.

Cheers folks smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-30 19:05:03
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Sep 30 2008, 06:47 PM) [snapback]520417[/snapback]
Assuming that by 'bossy boots' you mean Davie Irons, have you given up on him completely already? Do you want rid of him?

I don't particularly like his style and think he treats the players like wee boys exemplified by that 'on-pitch' warming up routine which thankfully, in spite of the fact that we were told that sports science showed it gave the team a great advantage, lasted only one week.

I think his constant omission of Jenkins is a big mistake, but on the other hand see Shimmin, Smith and increasingly Masterton as long term assets if we can hold on to them.

At least against Dunfermline we had, for the first time in a while, certainly in a league game, enough good chances to win comfortably if our forwards had shown a bit more composure.

.............and a bit more composure is what we need from the manager, coaching the team during the week rather than trying to do it in the middle of the game; praising the good rather than niggling on about the mistakes and concentrating on his job rather than constantly nipping away at the referee and linesman, whom we all know to be generally of a very poor standard .

He is still learning his trade, and after Gretna, for the first time in the 'real world'. I don't want him to go but to succeed and I remain optimistic that given time, he will. However if that meant going back down to the Second Division that would be too much to take.

So I'm going for a win on Saturday and the start of better things!


I always call it as I see it!

Do I want rid of him?

NO-I want rid of the cancer that's eating away the future of the very life he recreated-RAE.

Only when he's accepted that he's choking 'his' club, will we have the chance to progress.

Davie Irons is just a victim.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 19:08:23
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Sep 30 2008, 07:01 PM) [snapback]520423[/snapback]
Since nearly every thread now is taken up with comments about the current chairman, and since mortonjag hasnt the boz to start a poll here is one for you all.

p.s. its my first time doing one of these so go easy on me unsure.gif

Mortonjag salutes you Sir! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 19:10:41
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Sep 30 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]520428[/snapback]
IF the chairman was to go we would be in deep trouble.
Where are you going to find the morton minded, extremely rich, patron, who doesn't "interfere". No ifs, no buts no maybe, where is the replacement? This is real life not some computer game.

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Extract tongue from Rae posterior-NOW! eek.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 19:16:27
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 30 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]520431[/snapback]
Should that not just be Children? unsure.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-30 19:21:47
QUOTE(allenton @ Sep 30 2008, 07:19 PM) [snapback]520433[/snapback]
Was at hospitality at ICT game. Dougie came over to the table and was asking how we felt about the start to the season. He came across as a very genuine man who is clearly hurting at the start we have made.

He did say he felt we should worry less about the other team who visit cappielow and concentrate on our own strengths.

I cannot claim to know the man but he spend at least 10 minutes discussing the game and appeared to be struggling like the rest of us with our performances. He was certainly not avoiding answering the questions i asked him.

.........which were?
mortonjag 2008-09-30 19:24:01
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Sep 30 2008, 07:20 PM) [snapback]520434[/snapback]
I hate the t*** but that's inaccurate. The only thing he does have the "boz" to do is talk about it ON HERE, and start polls ON HERE. When it comes to discussing issues with anyone connected with the club in person, however ... rolleyes.gif

PS I voted for every single option ... not because I don't know what I think, but just to mess up the ridiculous thing. smile.gif

Then you may answer to Big Doc, you foolish child. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 19:32:02
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Sep 30 2008, 07:29 PM) [snapback]520438[/snapback]
To answer the first question, yes and no. Voted for both in the poll and that is what I truly believe. It is time for him to go as he has taken us as far as he can. But it is not time for him to go as there is no-one to takeover the club. As soon as someone declares an interest in the club then the answer would be a definate yes, but until then there is not a lot we can do.

The second question is irrelevant at the moment, but if a viable buyer came in and Dougie refused to talk to them then I would consider taking part in vocal and organised protests. Nobody is bigger than the club and if Dougie was standing in the way of progress then I would be a part of proceedings to try to get him removed.

He IS, and I give you Alistair Donald.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 19:33:45
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 30 2008, 07:32 PM) [snapback]520442[/snapback]
We are at the bottom of the league at the moment. That is not directly down to Dougie, perhaps indirectly, simply because he is the chairman of our club.
The players and the management team are responsible for our current predicament, not Dougie.
Dougie Rae has put his faith in Irons & Collins, time will tell if he is right.

Dougie is not perfect, but I'm glad we have a chairman we can trust. After the last chairman I really appreciate someone like Dougie Rae.

To those who wish our chairman to stand down.....BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR !

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mortonjag 2008-09-30 19:44:32
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Sep 30 2008, 07:34 PM) [snapback]520445[/snapback]
Until Donald puts his cards on the table then I will not get behind him. If he comes out and says he wants to buy the club, then I will be totally in favour of that.

Hold on a minute Bishy!

FACTS.

He's worth about ten or a hundred times a 'Rae' depending on what statistics you choose.

He's 'devoted' to Morton.

He's a Director who's been attending almost every match of late.

He's already made an 'offer' which was knocked back by overpricing and the need to retain some control (if reports are to be believed).

There again it's possible that that old fox Rae has conned a man whose business acumen and success leave the wee Fudgy Wudgy maker look like a pauper.

He's certainly conned a few posters! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 19:54:42
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 30 2008, 07:40 PM) [snapback]520448[/snapback]
I know you have a great dislike for Dougie MJ. But I see no reason, or have the slightest bit of evidence to doubt what I have stated.

Let me set it straight once and for all Spurtle. I don't know Douglas Rae personally. I have met him once in 'Hospitality' and found him to be a self obsessed and dismissive old man.

Morton is his ego, and his ego is Morton-a sad old fool, who at the age of 77 years is still unfulfilled.

The tragedy is that his final fling is now biting him in the bum. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 19:58:43
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Sep 30 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]520458[/snapback]
How about a loan deal then?

Surely we are a more attractive proposition now then when he first came to us. In all his interviews he ALWAYS mentions wanting to play competitive first team football - don't underestimate what an enticing carrot that could be to a player like him.

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mortonjag 2008-09-30 20:01:18
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Sep 30 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]520456[/snapback]
Don't doubt a lot of what you are saying about his worth and his devotion for Morton. But where is your proof re an offer being made. To my knowledge, Donald has not made an attempt to buy the club yet. If you have proof to the contrary then please provide it.

Would you care to expand on 'your' knowledge before I make any further comment?
mortonjag 2008-09-30 20:10:33
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 30 2008, 08:01 PM) [snapback]520466[/snapback]
That's your opinion of him MJ. Personally when I spoke to him in the hospitality I found him to be the exact opposite of what you regard him to be.

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You are equally impressed by 'Bawheid' Spurtle.

There's a wee psychological trick involved here-and you plainly haven't clocked it-treat everybody as your equal!

I'm sure that if you'd done that, your responses from GOD would have been perceived entirely differently!

There again, I suppose life would not be complete without the sycophants! rip.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 20:16:59
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 30 2008, 08:05 PM) [snapback]520469[/snapback]
We know Donald is an extremely rich man MJ. But again we have no substantiated proof that he is interested in buying Morton FC....none at all !

That's absolutely true Spurtle!

Alistair lives in the Home Counties-a very nice part of ENGLAND, I'm told.

Would you believe that he could easily watch half a dozen Engish premiership sides-maybe more- and get home for his lamb bhuna before he does from Cappielow! laugh.gif

mortonjag 2008-09-30 20:30:26 wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 20:32:24
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 30 2008, 08:19 PM) [snapback]520478[/snapback]
I just stick to the facts MJ. happy.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-30 20:38:05
QUOTE(wanderton @ Sep 30 2008, 08:29 PM) [snapback]520480[/snapback]
mortonjag i do not know you or douglas rae but you seem to have a strong dislike for the man.Why do you dislike him so much has your paths crossed in the past?

I do have a strong dislike for a man whose ego is destroying the Club I have supported all my life.

The fact that he still has any minute shred of credibility must surely be down to mass thickness! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 21:18:24
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 30 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]520493[/snapback]
why would we need either a vocal protest at games or a organised protest currently...

You mean he already KNOWS!!! bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 21:22:29
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Sep 30 2008, 09:18 PM) [snapback]520496[/snapback]
The vision of Mortonjag Multiple voting whilst chugging himself senseless , is not a savoury one. thumbdown.gif

Hmm... cloth ears-one can only construe that you too are up Rae's arse.

I knew you weren't very bright but 'c'mon Man! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 21:26:06
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Sep 30 2008, 08:41 PM) [snapback]520487[/snapback]
A bit rich talking about another person's ego when you regularly refer to yourself in the 3rd person.

How you could assess the fact that he is "unfulfilled" when it is apparent you have rarely (if ever) spoken with him is absurd.

Although your little turn of phrase has not quite registered with some, I met Dougie once too in hospitality and found him to be a pretty decent chap. That's two to one! He did have the air of a man who is sure of himself (almost certainly overly so) and had the charisma of a politician, but I couldn't care less about his character assessment, I am only concerned about his running of the club, which has yet to yield anything particularly unpleasant except lead to the birth of an internet character who is hell-bent on turning an entire forum against Dougie, with very little evidence as to why.

He is an unfulfilled old fud.

Mortonjag hath spoken!
mortonjag 2008-09-30 21:28:18
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 30 2008, 09:15 PM) [snapback]520494[/snapback]
Local authority workers are being offered 2.5% which, with inflation at 4.5 %, effectively means a 2% pay cut. The lower paid workers are right to resist and have my support. The pay offer should be viewed in the context of the recent job evaluation exercise carried out by management consultants (why do those feckers always hire consultants - at cooncil tax payers epense - to do their jobs for them). Proposed salary regradings following the job evaluations generally recommend substantial increases for management grades and actual decreases for some lower grades. Now there's a surprise eh? Managers recommending pay hikes for managers.

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mortonjag 2008-10-01 07:43:47
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 30 2008, 09:32 PM) [snapback]520500[/snapback]
Devoted to Morton? If he was so inclined, where was he when the administrators were ready to shut us down? Too busy making offers to Murray the Hun? Dougie's conned a few posters? I hope Donald isn't conning some more. biggrin.gif

In which sense Mr Edwards-by 'kidding on' he's interested, to make the Club look viable because Rae asked him to, or because he's some latter day Hugh's Cot who plans to asset strip for the sake of a few marbles?

QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Sep 30 2008, 09:55 PM) [snapback]520503[/snapback]
Mr Rae has funded Morton to the extreme but to me this is due to his mismanagement by buying haddies for a 100 grand and giving lumps o wood inflated and extreme contracts, lets do a Clyde, Airdrie, have trials pre season and focus any cash towards development( at least by doing that it will take half a season to learn the scapegoats names)

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QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 30 2008, 10:21 PM) [snapback]520511[/snapback]
Guess that would answer why Mr Donald wouldn't fancy a power share with Mr Rae .

Nobody in his right mind would consider that a viable proposition!

QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Oct 1 2008, 12:02 AM) [snapback]520541[/snapback]
........but it actually feels worse this year due to lack of belief, even going to s***holes like stenhousmuir was more of a buzz than going to cappielow(maybe cause we could get a result)as of late I'm f***ing sick of apathy and most o my mates think it is hardly worth the effort these day.

Very true....very sad.

QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 1 2008, 01:06 AM) [snapback]520551[/snapback]
Sugar Rae has rejected several offers over the past few years, according to articles in the popular press.

I remember that someone posted them here about 18 months ago.

mortonjag ??

I've repeatedly mentioned the Sun article published on the morning of our loss to Raith when we became champions by default.

He mentioned knocking back several 'million pound' offers and claimed that 'as long as there was breath in his body, Greenock Morton was not for sale'.

I've had it from reliable sources that AD is interested in the Club. I fully understand the paranoia after our situation with Scott. Which is the lesser of two evils-taking a gamble on Donald, or heading back to the Third Division with Rae?
mortonjag 2008-10-01 07:46:54 See!



Health Secretary Nicola Sturgeon said: "Delays in carotid surgery are a concern. We want to ensure that patients are benefiting from their surgery and have initiated the Scottish carotid interventions project to look at how outcomes might be improved."


WHOOPY F*CKIN' DOO-more money squandered on pointless exercises when those at the coal face know exactly what's wrong and what's needed to remedy it.

That woman is a bloody liability. mad.gif mad.gif

Oh...and she's one ugly bitch too.

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mortonjag 2008-10-01 08:12:52
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 30 2008, 10:11 PM) [snapback]520509[/snapback]
I would imagine just about every football club internet website in the land has threads dedicated to the "Knight in shinning armour" chairman that's going to come along and rescue the club from the evil chairman that currently rules over the club.

Get real people, ain't gonna happen !

Why does Mr Donald bother his arse trekking to Cappielow, Spurtle?

QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 30 2008, 11:22 PM) [snapback]520529[/snapback]
You don't beleive everything Mr Donald Trump says do you!

I don't give a toss about Mr Trump. If he shows an interest in Greenock Morton, I'll certainly start asking questions. Is Mr Donald a 'bogey man' to you? What is YOUR take on the current situation. You seem entirely complacent about the fact that Rae is destroying the Club he re-built.

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QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 30 2008, 02:08 PM)
Mr Rae not only saved our club several yrs ago, but he continues to be the saviour. If it was not for his financial support we wouldn't be able to afford these players on supposed high wages.

Aye right!

'He continues to be the saviour'! laugh.gif

Bottom of the third division and owing Golden Casket a bloody arm and a leg is sure not my idea of salvation.

What is your connection with Mr Rae?
mortonjag 2008-10-01 08:30:02 It amuses me to see those percentage figures bandied about. If you're earning f*ck all, why do employers have to quibble about giving you an extra 5% of f*ck all? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-01 08:34:42
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Oct 1 2008, 08:32 AM) [snapback]520566[/snapback]
Eid Mubarik to any board members of an Islamic persuasion. Ramadan's over.

If you're Jewish, happy new year. 5766 in the jewish calendar.

.....and a pinch and a punch to you Mr Bam!
mortonjag 2008-10-01 09:05:39
QUOTE(midTONs @ Oct 1 2008, 08:44 AM) [snapback]520568[/snapback]
The lassie next door to me has a small kid in nursery and works part-time, she earns £5.52 (considerably less than you and the rest of the people striking), now she cannot afford to lose a days wage but will be forced to because it's highly unlikely she will get a baby sitter for the hours when her son would have been in nursery.

Is there any chance instead of having a long lie or getting up to stand in a picket line you could come down to Gourock and watch this young lad for a few hours and let his Mother go to work and do a similar job you do for considerably less money, she tells me she cannot see her she can budget for the week following the strike with a days less wage.

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Citing individual cases of hardship always pulls at the heartstrings. If there was any justice in the world the thousands upon thousands of lowly paid Council workers would give up their strike action to remedy her plight, and I will willingly give her advice on contraception if she wishes to further her career without the encumbrance of yet another sprog. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-01 09:49:17
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 1 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]520572[/snapback]
You're getting a bit boring now. Look, just accept it - no matter how hard you try, she simply doesn't want to sh4g you....

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She's certainly shafting the voters!
mortonjag 2008-10-01 09:58:37
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 1 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]520575[/snapback]
Simply because DDF did not and does not think McInally is pish. He may think DI is pish and after this Saturday depending on the result DDF may weild the axe.

Or to put it slightly differently JM was putty in Rae's hands-Irons deserves some credit for not achieving that! blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-01 10:08:58
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Oct 1 2008, 09:49 AM) [snapback]520577[/snapback]
It's all good points you make there.

I don't know how our wages compare with the rest of the 1st division or what our wages to turnover ratio is......industry average for football clubs is roughly 60%. I was surpirsed when I heard about Greacen, Harding and Weatherson all getting long contracts too......I would have given Harding or Greacen a new contract not both.....but that's my opinion......Irons believed differently.

The bring a friend idea is proving somewhat tiresome now, but a club our size is limited to the extra revenue it can generate. We are never going to get some foreign investor taking over the club, we are always going to be restricted to a "local man makes good scenario"........whom I don't know many of in Inverclyde.

A win changes everything. No one realistically expected anything more than consolidation this year, which I still believe is within our grasp.

You make many statements of opinion sound factual!

'A club our size' is potentially the biggest provincial club in the SPL, where profits are regularly generated. We still don't know of Alistair Donald's intentions. I for one realistically hoped he'd become involved sooner rather than later.

'Consolidation' and 'constipation' are often not dissimilar. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-01 10:15:55
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Oct 1 2008, 09:57 AM) [snapback]520579[/snapback]
If you aren't happy with the money you earn why don't you apply for jobs that pay more ?

There are thousands of caring people in Scotland who LOVE their jobs while hating the pittance they get in return for sterling service.

There are thousands more who HATE their jobs but love their high salaries! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-01 10:18:51
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 1 2008, 09:57 AM) [snapback]520580[/snapback]
Hated it. If I wanted to be shouted at or patronised by posh Edinburgh lawyers I'd become a criminal.

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I thought you already were one, Peter!
mortonjag 2008-10-01 11:11:31
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Oct 1 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]520588[/snapback]
[b]A community buyout is a one-off, £600, but then what?[/b] How do you raise the revenue after that to keep the club afloat and indeed invest further for the future? At that point you are in the same position as the owner, whoever he/she may be who buys the club and either is,or is not financially strong enough to take it to the next level.

I suspect that you are correct that with more shrewd appointments at managerial level we could have built a very strong First Division promotion challenging side by now but we are where we are and something needs to change.

That's exactly what I was asking Peter!



QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 1 2008, 10:48 AM) [snapback]520591[/snapback]
Utterly pathetic - unless you're referring to yourself in the third person again!

You're entitled to your opinion I suppose, but I really wish you'd keep it to yourself. It's nothing but prejudice and personal abuse that you're masquerading as fact, when clearly the man is NOT a "sad old fool".

The sad old fool ain't the man who has built a successful business and, as other posters point out, is keeping GMFC afloat - no, he's sitting in front of a monitor spreading rumours, abuse and poison.

Imperfect as he is, Rae has at least done constructive things in his life, rather than spend retirement sniping from the sidelines via a low-circulation messageboard.

Jealousy is an evil, pernicious emotion, Moronjag, and, in more ways than one, you're full of it.

This one message shows you up for what you are - and what you are looks pretty pathetic.

Thank you for your highlighted statement, and I fully intend to keep voicing it.

Mr Rae, at 77 years of age, is by any standards 'old'. I regard him as 'sad' because he cannot see that his ego is destroying his love child. I think he's a 'fool' because in the opinion of the majority on the 'Dougie' poll, and in mine, he continues to make foolish mistakes in the running of OUR club.

Occasionally I weary of personal comparisons, especially when they are apparently evil, pernicious, and coming from anonymous Rae sycophants.

I put it to you that the average Doctor does more 'constructive' work than churning out second rate sweeties. I'm sure you'll rapidly point out the error of that opinion.

Jealousy is indeed an unpleasant emotion. If I were the jealous type, I can think of thousands of people I'd choose to envy before Mr Rae! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-01 11:19:08
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Oct 1 2008, 10:51 AM) [snapback]520593[/snapback]
They're obviously not that reliable as you say on the Dougie Rae thread, "We still don't know of Alistair Donald's intentions. I for one realistically hoped he'd become involved sooner rather than later."

My sources are entirely reliable and confirmed that AD is indeed interested in gaining control of the Club.

We don't know how or when he intends to do that. He became a Director in July. Given that level of committment my hope that he'd become financially involved sooner rather than later seemed realistic.
mortonjag 2008-10-01 11:32:23
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Oct 1 2008, 11:24 AM) [snapback]520604[/snapback]
here we go with "my sources" again. You silly little pals have already made a tit of theirselves once before...

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You know who they are!

The only 'tits' on this forum are the fools who don't want to accept the truth.

I'd like you to identify those 'silly little pals' GT.

Failure to do so will prove your post to be yet another inaccurate personal attack. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-01 11:47:34
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 1 2008, 11:29 AM) [snapback]520606[/snapback]
Now, you're just stirring it again, and you know it.

Asking that kind of a question would be like asking "would you like an end to war, yes or no", or "is the Internet a good thing, yes or no"....... Anyone can answer a question when the answer is without consequence; an idle click or two of a mouse and then move on. Solves nothing tho; all it does (whatever the answer) is stir the mud at the bottom of the pond a little. The man owns the vast majority of the shares, and I doubt he gives a toss about a wee tinpot question on here that would struggle to get a hundred votes, so all it would do is cause yet more ill-feeling on here.

But then that's all you're really after, so from your perspective it would be "mission accomplished".......

Your mission will not be accomplished! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-01 11:52:05
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 1 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]520608[/snapback]
wot, just the once??? laugh.gif

This applies to you also, though you differ from Gourock Ton in that you bear all the trade marks of a Cappielow insider. ph34r.gif




You know who they are!

The only 'tits' on this forum are the fools who don't want to accept the truth.

I'd like you to identify those 'silly little pals' GT.

Failure to do so will prove your post to be yet another inaccurate personal attack.
mortonjag 2008-10-01 12:27:54
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Oct 1 2008, 12:04 PM) [snapback]520621[/snapback]
The point being any Tom, Dick or Harry can come on here and say my sources are reliable. Okay you may have sources, but that doesn't make others like me fools just because we don't and dare to ask questions. All I do, and others I'm sure , is turn up to the game and come on this site for a wee bit of information about their team.

And as for a personal attack....get a life mate!

I've NEVER called a fellow poster a 'fool' for asking questions GT! smile.gif

As for personal attacks, here's what you said.

here we go with "my sources" again. You silly little pals have already made a tit of theirselves once before...

.....followed by

All I do, and others I'm sure , is turn up to the game and come on this site for a wee bit of information about their team.

If that's just 'looking for a wee bit of information', it certainly doesn't come over that way.

Would you care to identify those 'silly little pals who have made tits of themselves'?

This is my second invitation to you to establish your credibility.
mortonjag 2008-10-02 06:42:07 I'm very interested in Bobby Thomson's post -specifically - 'a member of staff has said it's only a matter of time before he takes over the reins'. mellow.gif

I'd imagine that's merely the same kind of reasoned and reasonable observation already made by myself and some others, rather that the product of any privileged information.

Our financial guard dog, THE TRUST has been waiting for months for a reply to a letter asking Mr Donald to 'come clean'. Mr Donald appears a very secretive man.

I believe he WILL take over the reins, and that when he does, the first any of us will know about it will be the press release.
mortonjag 2008-10-02 06:52:30
QUOTE(port-ton @ Oct 1 2008, 05:12 PM) [snapback]520721[/snapback]
it's got to come out sometimes, maybe if i pissed on Russell's face when he was about to shoot he'd completely mis-hit it and it would go in the goal.

There is no end to your gay fantasies.
mortonjag 2008-10-02 07:23:49
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Oct 1 2008, 05:53 PM) [snapback]520734[/snapback]
We should dump McAllister and get someone in his position (a natural left-footer preferably) who doesn't merely run about like a headless chicken. sad.gif

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QUOTE(cornbeef @ Oct 1 2008, 06:10 PM) [snapback]520745[/snapback]
kwolity laugh.gif

Oh aye edit to say........... and it could all be funded by this new (anonymous )chairman who is just gagging to throw his money at us rolleyes.gif


Thomas Cloth Ears!
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Oct 1 2008, 08:22 PM) [snapback]520837[/snapback]
That's that one sorted.

Jamie Stevenson may well be a creative player, but he's workshy and he was one of our worst players last season. He won't be back.

Wingers, yes we need them. Kevin Finlayson, when he's confident enough to take on his man, because he is well capable of skinning a player of he just tries it, will do for one.

Superkev constantly flatters to deceive. He's NEVER a winger, and can't cross or shoot for peanuts, but he does win a lot of shies and the occasional free kick or corner.

QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Oct 1 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]520923[/snapback]
PS I was sorry to lose Millar and would have him back tomorrow if I could!

We have nobody in the squad who fills the role vacated by Midge.

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 1 2008, 11:28 PM) [snapback]520977[/snapback]
Re: the Millar contract.
From March to October Millar barely kicked a ball for us. Only at Hamilton and the infamous "Templemangate" did he come off the bench and impressed enough to merit a start.
That leaves two months between that change in form and squad until December when the story began to be outed as such. I honestly do not think the club needed to be particularly fast or rash enough to sign up a player based on two months work out of the last 8. Personal opinion. The resultant negotiations and "he said, no he said" nonsense points to a more serious problem of bungling, meddling and interference.





Top notch! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-02 07:27:47
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Oct 1 2008, 11:49 PM) [snapback]520981[/snapback]
If its got wine in it,I'm there!!

Mortonjag's cellar boasts many fine wines!
mortonjag 2008-10-02 07:48:42
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Oct 1 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]520786[/snapback]
It's not posted to damage the manager I posted it as an introduction to Brian Wake praising the manager as I was pleasantly surprised to read about a player saying something positive about the manager when the rumours are that he had lost the dressing room.

It is what it is. If it was what is perceived to be a good rumour - a potential new signing for example - no one would be moaning.

"we WILL get it on Saturday!" - I'd love us to get a win on Saturday, I'll be there supporting the team but I'm not as optimistic as yourself. Why are you so sure we'll win?



QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 1 2008, 08:51 PM) [snapback]520858[/snapback]
Lost the dressing room? Jeezo, I thought WDE was bad losing a remote control but a dressing room? Has he looked down the back of the sofa.

Seriously FFS get off Davie Irons' back - he's only been here a matter of a few months and he has to work with the players he inherited plus any he brings in - he signed Shimmin and no-one can say that's a poor signing. Chris Smith - looks ok to me. Masterton was welcomed by everyone as a decent signing. I'm not sure if DI signed Jenkins but possibly he did. He tried to keep Millar but failed, but that wasn't really his fault. Most of the rest he is stuck with including our central defenders who come in for much abuse on here. Could any of you turn the club round in a matter of three or four months, which is all he's had really given the holiday period?

DI isn't the problem.



Much passion on this thread-good to see folk can still get worked up about something.

I decided to get an independent opinion about DI. I asked the league table. I'm certainly not going to be starting any rumours on the strength of what it said.
mortonjag 2008-10-02 08:22:17
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Oct 1 2008, 01:37 PM) [snapback]520650[/snapback]
My knowledge being what is generally known. I don't have the luxury of having any inside sources, so if you wish me to believe that Mr Donald has made a bid for the club then you will have to show me some evidence. Real evidence mind, not just conjecture based upon the fact that he comes up to watch games from England.

I fully support your motion that Rae has to go when we get a viable alternative but until we have hard proof that Donald is interested he is not an alternative.

He is an alternative IF he's interested. What we can or cannot prove is irrelevant in that respect.

I'm a doctor Bishy, not a lawyer. Symptoms, signs and diagnosis, and my diagnosis is that AD wants the Club!

QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Oct 1 2008, 05:58 PM) [snapback]520738[/snapback]
Y'know, that is actually one of the saddest things I've read on here for quite a while, and proves the point that change is desperately needed at Cappielow.

If Morton isn't to be seen as a club on par with the likes of ICT then we've fallen even further than I thought. Yes, they are SPL clubs, but Morton has the potential to at least match those mentioned.

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QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 1 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]520741[/snapback]
DDF will most certainly hear about this. Thats a guarantee. wink.gif


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QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 1 2008, 07:09 PM) [snapback]520784[/snapback]
Your guess is as good as mine Dr Mentaljag. I'm not sure at all about Donald's alleged 'devotion' to Morton, given his previous association and his profession.

Is Abramovic 'devoted' to Chelsea?
mortonjag 2008-10-02 08:47:17 When Alan Jenkins begins to show his true form I'd have him as captain.
mortonjag 2008-10-02 08:54:12
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 2 2008, 08:31 AM) [snapback]521016[/snapback]
laugh.gif Second post even better than the first. This guy is gonna be a star. Looking forward to the third already.

He seems to have a lot of inside information about you Peter. Should we trust his sources or are they just 'tits'? blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-02 08:57:05
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 2 2008, 08:36 AM) [snapback]521018[/snapback]
Power, self aggrandisement and control, but not necessarily Chelsea I think. Dougie does the first three as well, but no doubt that he's devoted to Morton. biggrin.gif

Of course he's devoted to himself.
mortonjag 2008-10-02 08:59:08
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 2 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]521022[/snapback]
That'll be when we're back in the second division then? dry.gif

If pushed I'd probably go for Cuthbert.

Or as soon as the new Manager arrives? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-02 09:03:26
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 2 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]521025[/snapback]
He does know quite a lot about me; I'm a child and my parents are still alive. Yup, he's got my number alright.
Just wait 'til he turns his guns on you!!! Better get that report button ready Douglas...... laugh.gif ohmy.gif

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Do you think he'll say my Daddy shagged my Mummy (his sister) and it's time for beddy baws?

That would make a refreshing change from the decrepit old c*nt routine Peter! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-02 09:09:59
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 1 2008, 07:40 PM) [snapback]520803[/snapback]
Its all DOWNHILL

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I've never been happier. It's daft worrying about your age when you don't know if you'll still be alive in five minutes-that plus the fact that everybody I know absolutely adores me!
mortonjag 2008-10-02 09:22:27
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Oct 1 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]520808[/snapback]
anyone know why this is??

Ive been on a bit of a health kick, eating loads of fruit and veg, running or at the gym most days...

...but when i fart it's eye watering. I could only describe as like walking into a wall of sh*te. They're always silent which is small compensation when in mixed company.

Whats the reason? Jag, any idea?


Food as medicine
Flatus
Alternative names
Aerophagia, excessive gas, flatulence or “fartsâ€.
What is flatus?
Flatus (flatulence) is air or gas in the intestine that is released through the rectum. This gas consists mainly of the odourless gas carbon dioxide. Small amounts of other gases are present, such as methane and hydrogen sulphide. The unpleasant smell of intestinal gas is a result of the hydrogen sulphide or other compounds. These other compounds are mostly amines, which are produced when proteins are broken down in the colon. The amines can be particularly offensive.
What causes flatus?


When bacteria begin to break down undigested food in the large intestine or colon, gas is formed. This causes the intestine to distend (swell), which can cause cramping pain. If the intestinal wall is inflamed, it can become more sensitive than usual to normal amounts of flatus.

Even though it can cause discomfort, excessive gas is usually not a serious symptom.

There are many causes of flatus and they may vary depending on your age, gender, and associated complaints. Some of the more common causes include:

* Eating non-digestible foods such as fibre.
* Eating foods that your body cannot tolerate (as in lactose intolerance which occurs when you lack the enzyme which digests lactose or milk sugar).
* Eating beans. There are carbohydrates in beans that cannot be digested by our enzymes so the bacteria in the colon have to break it down. The result is colonic gas.
* Acute pancreatitis.
* Irritable bowel syndrome.
* Malabsorption (which occurs when your intestine is not able to absorb nutrients) often accompanied by diarrhoea.
* Use of antibiotics.

Who gets flatus?
Anyone can get flatus. Fibre is the main cause of flatus and since fibre is necessary in a healthy diet, flatus can be seen as a sign of good health! It has been estimated the average healthy young male passes excess gas thirteen times a day.
How is flatus diagnosed?
If flatus is one of several symptoms, your doctor might need to consider the possibility of illnesses such as inflammatory bowel disease. In this case, your doctor will probably ask questions about your medical history, such as what your eating habits are like and whether you experience any other symptoms, such as diarrhoea, abdominal pain or bloating.


Can flatus be prevented?
Intestinal gas may increase temporarily after starting a high-fibre diet. The condition usually disappears on its own once your body has adjusted to the new diet. Also try the following:

* Do not eat milk products for a week as you might be lactose-intolerant. Avoiding rich foods, fizzy drinks and beer.
* To decrease the presence of foul-smelling amines in the intestine, you could decrease the amount of protein, primarily meat, in your diet. However, it is advisable to see a nutritionist before doing this.
* Avoid foods like navy beans, cabbage, brussel sprouts, cauliflower, broccoli, turnips, cucumbers, radishes, onions, and melons.
* Eat slowly and chew your food thoroughly.
* Increase your intake of chlorophyll. Chlorophyll is found in leafy green vegetables, such as spinach.[attachment=4621:th_fart.gif]
mortonjag 2008-10-02 09:26:45
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 1 2008, 03:11 PM) [snapback]520685[/snapback]
Actually I doubt if fruit that is not rotten falls any further from the tree...

Is the phrase not simply "the fruit doesn't fall far from the tree""?

Rotten fruit can't bounce or roll!
mortonjag 2008-10-02 09:50:53
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 2 2008, 08:42 AM) [snapback]521019[/snapback]
Can't wait for your reaction when MJ reveals he is Shergar, Lord Lucan AND Douglas Rae. ohmy.gif

The noble fudgy wudgy maker is indeed taking us for a ride, Peter.
mortonjag 2008-10-02 17:13:33
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Oct 1 2008, 08:36 PM) [snapback]520845[/snapback]
Would you also say that we the fans are victims? In the sense that we are watching something we all love, become riddled with decrepit interefering from something that is out of our reach at present.

For the record...saturday...we should win...I'll go for 2-o the Ton, and the start of our good fortunes...

Surely not a reference to the Chairman?
mortonjag 2008-10-02 17:16:47
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Oct 2 2008, 10:20 AM) [snapback]521045[/snapback]
Dark, clear or poofy pink?

Red, white and rose!-yes-POUFFE pink has been the ideal accompaniment to many a last supper. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-02 17:24:14
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Oct 2 2008, 11:48 AM) [snapback]521075[/snapback]
Rae gets the blame for badmouthing Millar after he signed the contract with St. Johnstone, and it was him who arranged talks with the agent on the 21st of February
Good point.
Well they'd decided to arrange contract talks, so clearly they did think he was worth a new deal, just that they'd handled it terribly, highlighting how badly we do things.
St. Johnstone, a side who were at the other end of the league, still thought he was good enough.
Finlayson's crossing has improved, although it does still leave a lot to be desired, but I would still say he can be a winger if he works on his crossing more, and just has the belief to take on his man.

However there's another point to be made here. All of that in bold describes Jim McAlister perfectly. Why is treated like a hero while Finlayson's constantly criticised? He's far better at taking on players than Finlayson, but nothing ever comes of it anyway because he can't pass a ball.

I agree and have been saying for months we should have got rid of both in the closed season for two half decent wingers. McAlister's only decent games this season have been when he's 'bust a gut' in front of SPL opposition (in the shop window)!
mortonjag 2008-10-02 17:29:50
QUOTE(leyTON @ Oct 2 2008, 11:44 AM) [snapback]521072[/snapback]
I wish people would stop giving jenkins an easy way out. Both him and Irons say he is back to fitness, and yet he has been utter pish since he signs.All these "whjen jenkins finds form" or "when jenkins is back on top form" "or when jenkins is back to full fitness and his best" are going to be very dissapointed.
If no other longer serving player can be find I wouldn't argue wih Dom. I haven't seen him put a foot wrong. Whether he decided to pass it out, skin a striker, look up the wing, or even just hoof, he always looks reassured

In which case why give him the last five minutes last Saturday, during which time he made the most positive and aggressive run at their defence in the whole game and his 'lay off' could have got us a second goal. He was the only stand out in the game against Queens at Palmerston-again he only got fifteen minutes.

I put it to you that IF he is fit-Irons has much to answer for.
mortonjag 2008-10-02 17:37:57
QUOTE(tontastic @ Oct 2 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]521053[/snapback]
Here is a forward looking question for you all ... what if Morton were to do well, be promoted to the SPL, and do well in the SPL.

I would presume that this change of circumstance would be brought about by either a better class of player on the pitch or an improvement in the skill level of our players brought on by a capable off pitch staff.

What if a consequence of that success was a jump in ticket prices, compulsory purchase of a season ticket to guarantee a seat and a heaving Cappielow every week? Would this mean that some people would have to give up attending matches because they either couldn't get in, or can't afford the £20/30/40+ ticket prices? Would regular visits by large teams make Cappielow a less safe place for young children due to the crowds?

From a footballing point of view we would be entertained, we would be winning; we would be climbing the table, but the inevitable consequences would be the demise of the cowshed, a potential stadium move or disruptive stadium work.

The point of my post? Would you put up with the kind of changes that considerable success would bring to enjoy Morton being a real name in footballing terms, or would you settle for something less than that to preserve a little of what you have just now? How would you feel if success priced you out of attending games? Would you be happy to follow Morton from daily tabloids reports?

What is YOUR answer to your own question?

QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 2 2008, 02:54 PM) [snapback]521141[/snapback]
Nah, f*** that, lets all realise that Mortons ambition go no further than a wee tidy squad determined to remain in the first diddyvision as that is after all our natural level.

We could NEVER aspire to match the ambitions of Falkirk, St Mirren, ICT, Hamilton etc or even the level of BIG clubs like St.Johnstone, Dunfermline and QOS in the first division.

Lets contunie to ask 2k+ fans to roll up to Cappielow with no expectation. no desire and no feckin hope.
Lets have no meaningful youth structure, lets have a non SPL compliant stadium.

I am happy to wallow in perpetual mediocraty and self pity for eternity.


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mortonjag 2008-10-02 17:51:35
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Oct 2 2008, 01:49 PM) [snapback]521123[/snapback]
That's like saying that Bill Gates, Warren Buffet or a Dubai Consortium are an alternative if they are interested. We cannot prove or disprove that they are interested either by your standards. Until he makes a bid for the club then he is not a viable alternative.

That statement is IMO entirely illogical. (Forget the fact that he has apparently already made a bid for the club). If he has the available cash and the intention, he is by definition a viable alternative, irrespective of our knowledge on the matter.

QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 2 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]521147[/snapback]
mmm....... moronjag is obviously NOT a believer in the old adage "better the devil you know than the devil you don't"....... and as other posters have noted, many welcomed Huge Spott with open arms purely because they wanted rid of John Wilson - and we all know what happened there.......

MJ DOES seem very keen on the idea of Mr Donald as a "white knight" riding to the rescue, despite the facts that a) we really don't know that he's interested in doing so right now, and Donald has never made public any strategy or plan for taking the club forward. Being successful in other areas of business is no guarantee of success in football - look at Mike Ashley at Newcastle, Alan Sugar at Spurs, even Al-Fayed at Fulham hasn't done much more than keep them out of relegation trouble.

Which begs the question, precisely why is moronjag so keen on AD???

good god - you don't think....... he couldn't be....... naah, he can't be the man himself, given the volume of rubbish spouted on here - but could mj be on the payroll of Mr Donald perhaps??? ohmy.gif blink.gif dry.gif laugh.gif

Why are YOU so obsessed with Mortonjag?

Fatal fascination? Wannabe doctor? Wrong goollie chopped off? Club insider?

I don't think it's any of those. I think you're just another 'saddo' without the ability to generate original thoughts and opinions. You appear to have the wit of a nit and the vision of a brain dead bat.

QUOTE(Ghost @ Oct 2 2008, 04:02 PM) [snapback]521171[/snapback]
I would say that erse Scott never won me over. Infact, thinking back at one point myself and Scott had a grip of each other in the Sinclair St end one day whilst he mingled with fans when i said to him he would be as well building a new park on a barge in the middle of the Clyde, he took exception to this for some reason, cant remember who was with him tbh, possibly that guy Peden ? who dragged Scott away rolleyes.gif

From the moment I saw that man walk across to the Cowshed with McGraw, I despised him. Every aspect of his body language said 'Del Boy', 'chancer', and blaggard. I said to my brother at the time-'I do not trust that man'.
mortonjag 2008-10-02 17:57:25
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Oct 2 2008, 05:20 PM) [snapback]521203[/snapback]
I don't have any sad.gif No-one wants to be mate's with the ginge.

I will be your friend if you feel lonely. I'm very good company.
mortonjag 2008-10-02 18:09:27
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Oct 2 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]521047[/snapback]
I find I get flatulance from certain bananas depending on the type and where I buy them. Is this normal MJ.

Eating bananas causes excessive flatulence in certain subjects. I presume you've been eating them and not sticking them up your arse!
mortonjag 2008-10-02 18:14:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 2 2008, 04:38 PM) [snapback]521186[/snapback]
Gidday Davie,
Lord Lucan and Sugar Rae I can accept.

However, Shergar was a lot better looking than MJ.

Don't you agree ?

I object to your posting pictures of my son at his computer.
mortonjag 2008-10-02 18:18:46
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Oct 2 2008, 05:15 PM) [snapback]521198[/snapback]
Hi honey. How are you?

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I see you're into wee boys as well Weegie! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-02 18:29:27
QUOTE(gmfc_stinny_gmfc @ Oct 2 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]521229[/snapback]
Jimbo should be given a shot at the captaincy. He gives 100% in all games and shows the rest of the team exactly what they should be doing by putting opposition players under pressure at every available point. I see him trying to get the crowd and his team mates going most games.

I just see him girning his face off and blaming others because he runs into the inevitable brick wall.

If Jimbo were to lead the others by his example, they'd be better removing the goals and installing a running circuit.
mortonjag 2008-10-02 19:40:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 2 2008, 07:16 PM) [snapback]521248[/snapback]
do you want to tell the mods ?

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Will they listen?
mortonjag 2008-10-02 19:46:16
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 2 2008, 07:41 PM) [snapback]521255[/snapback]
Good luck to the wee Paisley b*****d and Motherwell too.

As Sean would say, 'I hope the Nancy boys get it right up them tonight'! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-02 20:29:42
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 2 2008, 08:18 PM) [snapback]521259[/snapback]
Who gives a toss who is captain? It won't make a blind bit of difference who it is....

A bit like the SNP Spurtle? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-02 20:59:10
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Oct 2 2008, 08:46 PM) [snapback]521266[/snapback]
Alright, calm down MJ! laugh.gif laugh.gif

Aye very funny Anus-I don't like that young woman-she-like yourself is rather impertinent! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 06:26:32 Cop out as usual!


The DPP argues that the law is clear enough. His lawyers say the 1961 Suicide Act makes aiding and abetting suicide a criminal offence punishable by up to 14 years in prison, and the Code for Crown Prosecutors gives adequate guidance on when a prosecution is likely.

mortonjag 2008-10-03 06:51:57
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 2 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]521239[/snapback]
> Offensive quoted post removed by mod

This is why I don't see all those sticking by DDFR when you have to ask how long will he continue .

I'm glad you were able to answer my 'offensive' post Chris.

It is a term I've used all my life and is still totally acceptable in the English language to a huge number of people especially those of middle age and older. Used by those people it is neither deemed offensive nor intended to cause offence.

Perhaps the Mod in question would care to comment that the post was removed because he regarded it as POTENTIALLY offensive, or perhaps because HE was offended.

I object to the high handed statement that the post WAS offensive. That is merely the Mod's opinion, though I entirely accept he has jurisdiction.

For puzzled posters I used a time honoured phrase which mentions a non white gentleman, and a pile of wood. I compared the Chairman to that.
mortonjag 2008-10-03 07:04:40
QUOTE(se65an @ Oct 2 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]521309[/snapback]
Gillain advised that there was plenty of tickets, 800, if more were needed more would be supplied.

Asked if tickets would be available on the day at Dingwall, 'Should be' was the answer.

Think it best you call Ross County to check unsure.gif
Things looking up then Sean?
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mortonjag 2008-10-03 07:13:47
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Oct 2 2008, 11:51 PM) [snapback]521339[/snapback]
Totally agree.

I think I'm right in saying Jenkins missed most of pre-season training. It was always going to be a big ask for him to catch up with the rest of the squad when we don't even have a reserve side for him to play in. I think some of the criticism he's been getting is harsh because, for me, he's still not fully fit, never mind match sharp.

His substitute appearances against Livingston and Queen Of The South (Challenge Cup) showed that a fully fit Allan Jenkins could be a key player for us.

I'd have said 'would'.

I don't think fitness is the only issue. If he was only fit enough for five minutes on Saturday why use him at all. He got about 15 at Palmerston as you say, and was outstanding.

Get Rae to f*ck out of team matters and let the Manager sort things out his own way. Only when that meddlesome old fud is removed will we EVER know what's truly going on behind the scenes. I feel sorry for DI even if I'm unconvinced about his ability.

It just looks a bloody mess and it's ultimately down to Rae. It's definitely past TTGR for me. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 07:21:36
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Oct 2 2008, 10:59 PM) [snapback]521323[/snapback]
No, FACT!

If you disagree then you are wrong. Simple.

Lee Robinson will be a fantastic 'keeper at a higher level than the Scottish 1st division.

Aye for the St Peter select v God's eleven in Methuselah's testimonial.
mortonjag 2008-10-03 07:37:34
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Oct 3 2008, 12:38 AM) [snapback]521344[/snapback]
My son Dylan is three and a half now but a couple of months into the pregnancy I threw the name Morton into the hat as a suggestion for a first name. I was mostly joking but with that wee bit of me wanting to see how the mrs would react. To my astonishment she liked it and so did some of her family (all Celtic supporters) and then some of mine. Eventually I had to be the one to veto it - the poor boy would've been bullied for life. You get enough of a slagging being a Morton supporter in school, nevermind being a Morton supporter called Morton.

Not quite as bad as 'Cliftonhill McClumpha'.
mortonjag 2008-10-03 07:45:14
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 3 2008, 06:47 AM) [snapback]521362[/snapback]
You're just a philistine chrissiboi. laugh.gif Never mind the dummy sitting on the bog, what about the dummies that think this is art. Marcel Duchamp knew he was taking the piss, but Emin really believes she's an Artist.

Indeed Mr Edwards, but just because almost everybody believes Mr Rae is a passe old fud doesn't make him one!
mortonjag 2008-10-03 08:02:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 3 2008, 07:51 AM) [snapback]521371[/snapback]
If you had purchased £1000 of Northern Rock shares one year ago it would now be worth £4.95.

With HBOS, earlier this week your £1000 would have been worth £16.50.

£1000 invested in XL Leisure would now be worth less than £5, but if you bought £1000 worth of Tennents Lager one year ago, drank it all, then took the empty cans to an aluminium re-cycling plant, you would get £214.
So based on the above statistics the best current investment advice is to drink heavily and re-cycle.

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That sounds like a lot of piss.
mortonjag 2008-10-03 08:12:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 3 2008, 07:38 AM) [snapback]521368[/snapback]
His previous association with the Huns ?

His profession as a management insultant ?

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Here's the original press report:




In an exclusive interview with the Telegraph, the 53-year-old businessman revealed he joined the Cappielow board simply because he loves the club.

Donald was co-opted to the Morton board earlier this month and chairman Douglas Rae stated his role within the club structure will be ‘almost exclusively, one of overview.’

The move comes as financial director Iain Brown and director Arthur Montford step up to Honorary vice-president roles.

Donald compiled a successful business CV with internet companies in Europe and America during the 1990s. He is a semi-retired senior partner with technology consultancy giants Accenture.

He said: “I watched the Morton games from the Cowshed in the late 50s with my dad, who’s a sixth generation Greenockian. I’ve always had an affiliation with this club.

“In 1977 I moved south to pursue other opportunities. I started a company, which re-branded as Accenture and floated on the NASDAQ about five years ago. We started off with 100 people and, as of today, I think we have around 125,000 people working with us, with a turnover of around £15 billion. It’s been a great success story.

“I have a passion for two clubs — Morton and Rangers. Half my family are Morton, the other half are Rangers fans.

“Morton is a great community club. I remember when the club went into administration six or seven years ago. The administrators got in touch with me down in England and so I came up to have a look. The place was desolate. It was absolutely heartbreaking. I stood there and thought, ‘this is mission impossible.’

“Thankfully, the Rae family came in at that moment and saved the club from almost certain liquidation.

“How did I get involved this time? Well, I’ve known the Raes all my life. I took hospitality here one day and the chairman asked what I was doing with myself.

“He felt my 30 years of business experience down south could help move the club forward, from where we are today, to the next level.


“My agreeing to join the board is a combination of the Raes being involved, my passion for the club and my family association with it.

“I’ll provide an overview, as the chairman rightly says. I’ll question things, think outside the box, play devil’s advocate if you like.

“Some people get into football as an ego trip. I just prefer to be out of the public eye. I don’t want to take credit for anything I do — I just want to help this club. Douglas Rae has done wonders for this club and he deserves the credit.â€

Donald was reported to be personally worth £70 million four years ago.

It was also reported he offered to plough £10 million into Rangers back in 2004. When asked about this, he simply smiled and said: “I have no idea what I’m worth — you’ll have to ask my accountants! At this stage we’re not talking about me putting money into the club.

“It’s all about working with the management team and the chairman — to maybe think differently, to maybe generate more revenue from the business contacts I have.





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mortonjag 2008-10-03 08:40:03 0-0 ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 08:49:06
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Oct 3 2008, 08:10 AM) [snapback]521377[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Sep 28 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]519593[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think you are being a bit harsh on Newby there, we did not see enough of him to say he was pish.
Pish glad to see the back of him

He's still a Ton player and he's far from 'pish' IMO. He gave us width by regularly drifting left, and got over a fair number of decent crosses-UNLIKE Jimbo!

I'm also convinced Jesus loves him. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 08:55:05
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 3 2008, 08:33 AM) [snapback]521379[/snapback]
Perhaps you should enter a likeness of him for the Turner prize then. Sitting on the throne.

Voila!

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mortonjag 2008-10-03 09:21:30 To dazed'n'confused et al!
mortonjag 2008-10-03 10:59:32
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 3 2008, 09:37 AM) [snapback]521411[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif Don't flatter yourself, auld yin (and what a waste of a statement THAT was!!) - I couldn't care less about you.

However, I DO detest the amount of misinformation, allegedly "informed" statements and thye speculation presented as "factual" that you spew out on here.

In short, even tho it's on a limited-circulation messageboard I think you do the club that I support more harm than good - simple as that.

Give me one piece of evidence please. rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 3 2008, 09:38 AM) [snapback]521412[/snapback]
hmmm - your master was very quick in getting that copy to you, wasn't he?? dry.gif

I serve no master, nor do I, like some, cow tow to the old fud who is ruining Greenock Morton and whom over 60% of pollsters want out.

QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 3 2008, 09:53 AM) [snapback]521418[/snapback]
I had some experience of S**tt prior to his involvement at Cappielow due to us working in the same industry, and the stories about him in that circle were legend. I really hoped Wilson wouldn't sell to him, and I was worried for the future of the club when he did.

His behaviour on the day of the handover, when he saw a photographer from the "tele" taking his photo at the Tontine and stormed over demanding the film "or the deal's off", was typical of my knowledge of him, and things went downhill rapidly at Morton from then on.

That guy woulda caused a fight in an empty house.

What is your opinion about Alistair Donald?
mortonjag 2008-10-03 11:03:08
QUOTE(EBu @ Oct 3 2008, 10:19 AM) [snapback]521433[/snapback]
I really dont see what a Chinese Lumberjack has to do with DDFR??? wink.gif

Chop Susie?
mortonjag 2008-10-03 11:42:50
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 3 2008, 11:21 AM) [snapback]521459[/snapback]
I remember a guy I worked with spouted about the plans for a new stand with conference facilities , I just said that you can get plans from anywhere by that time I had stopped going as I knew the only thing that would hurt Scott was a total boycott .

At that time there were several 'owners' who were rather dubious Knightley , Brearley , Scott just struck me as part of the cancer at that time .

We've had many owners over the years but Scott was the real 'Bogey Man' and folk are still terrified of something similar. Alistair Donald could 'buy and sell' about 50 wee shyster businessmen like Scott. I understand the caution but I do not see him in the same category at all.

I just wish the Trust could get a better idea of his intentions. Mr Rae, after all only owns 3/4 of the Club. Why should everybody else be in the dark?
mortonjag 2008-10-03 12:08:58
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Oct 3 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]521475[/snapback]
Your meant to spead your money around a range of different asset classes are you not?

If you lost money in HBOS or Lloyds, you'd have made a profit on shares in Dominos Pizza and Tesco who haven't faltered. If your stupid enough to put all you money into shares in one company, make it one that is traditionally recession proof!

Funeral Director?
mortonjag 2008-10-03 12:22:55
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 3 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]521479[/snapback]
"Rover". "Rex". "Fido". Even "Spot".

All good names for lapdogs.

Times change tho, and I suppose "moronjag" is as good a name as any these days....... laugh.gif

That makes absolutely no sense to me. I asked you a serious question. What is your opinion regarding Alistair Donald's intentions?
mortonjag 2008-10-03 13:03:59
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 3 2008, 12:33 PM) [snapback]521487[/snapback]
I feel that if thee sufferer of whatever ailment whether physical or mental has recieved all possible therapies and don't wish to recieve anymore and te doctors involved with psychiatric evaluation then I see no objection .
We save pets and farm animals from suffering yet are willing to let loved ones linger until pnuemo takes them .

I am pragmatic I don't believe in an after life I also believe that when all medical treatments have been exhausted you are a needless burden and I'd be happy for the doctor to end my existence .

I wonder how many posters have personal experience of seeing a loved one die a long and lingering death at the hands of-for example-Multiple Sclerosis-the subject of the current court case.

My ex wife has now suffered from that condition for some fifteen years, and I have first hand experience of many similar tragedies. I firmly believe that voluntary euthanasia is appropriate in certain situations.

mortonjag 2008-10-03 13:20:42
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 3 2008, 01:08 PM) [snapback]521495[/snapback]
the mod was correct to remove the post as it is an offensive word and we are active supporters of the "Show Racism the Red Card" it was removed.

Why is it not automatically edited out? You removed the whole sentence. The expression is still in common usage whether the PC brigade like it or not, and it was not intended to be offensive. As you know the word itself had already been 'edited'.
mortonjag 2008-10-03 13:37:42
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 3 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]521503[/snapback]
failure with the swear filter which has been fixed, it wasnt edited enough..

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QUOTE(mortonjag @ Oct 3 2008, 10:59 AM) *
Give me one piece of evidence please. rolleyes.gif Oh I really don't think that's necessary - anyone familiar with your output will know the things I mean. Besides which, I really can't be ersed - some of us still have to work for a living.......

I serve no master, nor do I, like some, cow tow to the old fud who is ruining Greenock Morton "Kow-tow", you mean - put on the pointy hat and go and stand in the corner, Knowall! Other than that, that comment is not WORTHY of comment....... and whom over 60% of pollsters want out. As Ebbe Skovdahl memorably said, "Statistics are like mini-skirts - they give you big ideas but they hide the most important things......." tongue.gif That "over 60%" figure you find so significant amounts to a grand total of just 57 votes at present, which I've no doubt includes multiple votes from those who have more than one ID on here. 57 votes. SO WHAT??? laugh.gif

What is your opinion about Alistair Donald? I don't know enough about Alistair Donald, or any intentions that he may have regarding MFC, to HAVE a qualified opinion - I don't work for him, you see! laugh.gif However, I'm open-minded about him and his possible future involvement - I'm neither for him nor agin him till I know more about him.



laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

So you can't back up your accusations, rubbish the opinions of your fellow posters, know f*ck all about AD but still see fit to suggest that Mortonjag is one of his employees!

Here's an easier question then.

Are YOU satisfied with the job Mr Rae is doing at Greenock Morton?

Bear in mind that your fellow posters whom you see fit to ridicule will be curious to hear your answer.
mortonjag 2008-10-03 13:57:04
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Oct 3 2008, 01:34 PM) [snapback]521507[/snapback]
There are 2 letters in the tele. One is from Irnbru, the other asking Rae to "offer an explanation of his plans, and visions for the future".

What does the other letter say?
mortonjag 2008-10-03 14:06:28
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Oct 3 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]521522[/snapback]
Dear Mr Rae,
Please excuse my 'friend' from not turning up to games for the next 4 months, as he is allergic to pish.

yours for ever
Mr P.Offed.

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mortonjag 2008-10-03 14:19:45
QUOTE(leyTON @ Oct 3 2008, 02:15 PM) [snapback]521526[/snapback]
Having just met VT in the flesh for the first time, and realised his "debating" style is as bad, if not worse as it is on here.
First impressions are not deceiving, he is the same man in the flesh
Wondered what others thought.

I'm quite surprised. I thought that others who have met him claimed 'he wouldn't say boo to a goose'.

You may have sex with him if you wish! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 16:25:56
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 3 2008, 02:34 PM) [snapback]521533[/snapback]
"So you can't back up your accusations, rubbish the opinions of your fellow posters, know f*ck all about AD but still see fit to suggest that Mortonjag is one of his employees!

Here's an easier question then.

Are YOU satisfied with the job Mr Rae is doing at Greenock Morton?

Bear in mind that your fellow posters whom you see fit to ridicule will be curious to hear your answer."

heh heh - typical MJ distortion of the FACTS!! laugh.gif

1. "you can't back up your accusations" - I could easily back up the statement - in fact, your reply above goes a long way towards doing it FOR me - but, as I said before, I haven't the time to trawl through your ramblings just to prove the blindingly obvious. How that transmutes into "CAN'T" only you will know! laugh.gif

2. "rubbish the opinions of your fellow posters" - How, pray tell, have I rubbished the opinions of fellow posters? Nonsense, mj - I rubbished the ineffectual nature of the POLL earlier in the thread, and the NUMBER OF VOTES in the post in question - NOT the opinions of those who voted, and well you know it! MORE distortions from you! laugh.gif

3. "still see fit to suggest that Mortonjag is one of his employees" - Ahh, I see - it's allowable for YOU to suggest that anyone who pulls you up for constantly slagging off the Raes is in their employ, but Heaven help anyone who suggests that YOU work for/are in thrall too/are up the erse of(to use your expression) AD!! Even tho you seem to be toadying to him and pushing for him to take over the club WITHOUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN ONE MONTHS-OLD "TELE" ARTICLE AS AN INDICATION OF HIS (THEN) INTENTIONS! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
You really are a bit of a laughing-stock on here, you know, and this oft-used tactic that you have of distorting the words of others in order to sway opinions against the poster is wearing very thin now!! laugh.gif tongue.gif
As for my opinion of Douglas Rae - I'm a supporter of MORTON, NOT of any one individual, whether it be Chairman, Director, manager or player! If the team is winning and the ground's in good nick, I don't particularly care who's in charge or who owns what - like everyone else, I'm NOT happy with results right now, but who knows - in 10 days from now we may be off the bottom of the League and looking to move higher AND have a Cup Final to look forward to....... hope springs eternal, and that's what being a "supporter" of ANY club is all about!!

Debate over for now, as far as I'm concerned - I've MUCH more important things to do than have a battle of wits with an unarmed man....... dry.gif

I'm pretty certain that most reasonable posters will have concluded by now that you are a Rae sycophant. I'm delighted to hear you will be saying no more on the subject.
mortonjag 2008-10-03 16:28:58
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 3 2008, 03:09 PM) [snapback]521546[/snapback]
Meanwhile back at the ranch .

Letters in the tele asking DDFR for answers they are getting brave !! Is the guy who usually sweeps any contraversy under the carpet off sick with repeditive strain disorder .

Does Mr Rae read the Tilly, or does somebody else read it for him? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 16:36:51
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Oct 3 2008, 03:49 PM) [snapback]521565[/snapback]
Cheers, Jonaton.

I wonder who wrote the second letter... rolleyes.gif

Both letters address important failings in the way the club is being run.

I'm interested to know if posters think that the real Morton fans (who of course don't use this wee massage board) will now be writing to the Tilly in their droves in support of the Club and everything that's good about it.
Undoubtedly their angry and distressed responses will throw the poll results on Mr Rae into complete chaos, proving him still to be the Darling Sugar Daddy of Cappielow! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 17:31:46
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 3 2008, 04:15 PM) [snapback]521575[/snapback]
ohmy.gif .......but he doesn't refer to himself in the third person....... blink.gif

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What do you think of the letter from the lady whose name and address has been withheld?

She seems to re-iterate much of what the forum users have been saying.

Maybe the REAL fans are beginning to wake up to reality! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 17:43:58
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Oct 3 2008, 05:26 PM) [snapback]521593[/snapback]
Everyone thinks they know all that they need to at 18. The lad's no different.

And he does a good wind up on P&B.

Good gracious Mr Bam-you've plainly been reading too many of SPARROT'S postings! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 18:20:39
QUOTE(Torro @ Oct 3 2008, 05:54 PM) [snapback]521604[/snapback]
Does anyone have an imaginary voice for MJ that rips through there head when reading his posts? a kind of even more nasal james sanderson comes to mind - that same wee voice popped up when reading the wee letter in the tillie ! rolleyes.gif


I have to say I'm flattered Torro-not by the allusion to James Sanderson -but by the suggestion that Mortonjag is the only person willing to question the Rae dynasty. Somebody has had the baws (or otherwise!) to ask legitimate questions. The letter is couched in reasonable English-something Mortonjag commends. There are surely SOME other literate Morton fans!!! dry.gif


QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Oct 3 2008, 06:14 PM) [snapback]521613[/snapback]
What lady would that be? Big Blue Eyes? wink.gif

Why don't you ask her? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 18:26:03
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Oct 3 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]521619[/snapback]
I just did. happy.gif

What was her response?
mortonjag 2008-10-03 18:35:21
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Oct 3 2008, 06:20 PM) [snapback]521614[/snapback]
Is this a form of Internet bullying Leyton ? No doubt you have a Bebo with pictures of yer homies- in a variety of 50 cent poses, sporting machettes. You might even have that west side gansta TWGP in there . VT should be very afraid. sad.gif

IMHO Cloth Ears, 'Internet Bullying' is a misnomer for the situation in which inadequates who are incapable of coping with clever use of a keyboard are too stupid to stay out of 'the kitchen' and bleat to fellow posters and to Moderators!

VT, deliberately or otherwise, presents himself as an arrogant and self opinionated little boy. If he wants to chuck it out, he has to take it back.

I voted that he should be shagged BTW, as there was no option for tanning little pink botties, and I detest blood and snot on my knuckles! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 18:40:05
QUOTE(Tooth & Nail @ Oct 3 2008, 06:13 PM) [snapback]521610[/snapback]
Just wondered if there are any pics from the last 2 games?

Or have u given up now? tongue.gif

I don't think so. Tontastic is an official club photographer.
mortonjag 2008-10-03 18:43:41
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Oct 3 2008, 06:38 PM) [snapback]521632[/snapback]
That's his problem, actually. He needs pumped. Someone fix the boy a wee dirty to pop his cherry.

I'll do it! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 18:53:18
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Oct 3 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]521633[/snapback]
Apparently I'm to ask you her again. wink.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Bloody hell - Dunning.

Somebody started a thread about a couple of excellent letters in the Tilly, and it's ended up with Mortonjag AGAIN being accused of being some daft wee lassie (or some other daft poster)!

Mortonjag is NOT BBE!

Mortonjag hopes that many others will now write letters to the Tilly. The tide has clearly turned when our local newspaper has had the baws to publish something vaguely critical of the 'Fud of Fort Matilda'.

Long may that continue. blush.gif

mortonjag 2008-10-03 19:35:49
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Oct 3 2008, 07:00 PM) [snapback]521644[/snapback]
Oh I agree with the letter, I think it was excellent, and I also happen to think it was you who wrote it.

I can understand why you might imagine that, but don't forget-as others are frequently wont to remind us-that this wee massage board only represents a very small number of Morton fans.

It's pretty demeaning of your fellow supporters IMO to suggest that none of them is capable of producing that letter.

Full credit to the author, and full credit to the editor for publishing it. I hope more folk will now see fit to question the status quo.
mortonjag 2008-10-03 19:43:36
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Oct 3 2008, 07:31 PM) [snapback]521656[/snapback]
Your sources are getting worse and worse sir

My sources have never let me down. Have you ever heard the expression-'A week's a long time in football'?

Here's what I said almost four weeks ago!

Nope folks-the Tilly wouldn't publish such an overt criticism of Mr Rae.
Not quite time for that yet!


Mortonjag does not make mistakes. smile.gif

mortonjag 2008-10-03 19:48:08
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 3 2008, 07:40 PM) [snapback]521660[/snapback]
Remember the b4st4rd on the big breakfast with his brood , he had owed the club for weeks .
I recall he was in the paper for days after the wreath incident .

Look the days of someone coming in and asset strip the club are gone the council won't grant alternative planning permission unless the owners have a suitable replacement . The only assets are Cappielow and the training ground at Quarriers .

So I think fears about another Huge Spott scenario seems unlikely .

Indeed Chrissiboi, but there are still those who will not venture outdoors without the reassurance of belt, braces, fanny pad, AND jock strap! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 19:52:19
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Oct 3 2008, 07:17 PM) [snapback]521649[/snapback]
30 is the new 20 anyway. ph34r.gif

Correct Mrs T., and by the same formula, 60 is the new 40. Are you busy this weekend. I drive a very fine lorry! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 19:56:02
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Oct 3 2008, 06:47 PM) [snapback]521639[/snapback]
I thought he was one of your offspring, at one point. He's a smart kid and he'll learn. Whatever happened to you ? tongue.gif

I grew up Cloth Ears!

Yourself?
mortonjag 2008-10-03 19:57:57
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Oct 3 2008, 06:54 PM) [snapback]521642[/snapback]
That'll make him an insider then. Up Dougies Ronson rolleyes.gif

Do you think so? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 20:00:37
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 3 2008, 07:57 PM) [snapback]521671[/snapback]
I doubt the Ton will be in the SPL within 4-5 years. ph34r.gif

As things stand-I agree. I believe the tide is turning.
mortonjag 2008-10-03 20:05:33
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 3 2008, 07:54 PM) [snapback]521667[/snapback]
... and your point is, caller ?

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That many still fear smallpox when it has been eradicated worldwide! smile.gif

mortonjag 2008-10-03 20:18:54
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Oct 3 2008, 08:06 PM) [snapback]521678[/snapback]
I think a large number of people on here, going on the way they raise complaints on here, are more than capable of writing a letter to the Greenock Telegraph. I am going to write a response, and am going to be asking questions if it doesn't go in.

Not right now though, stuff to prepare for the trip tomorrow and then bed! smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-10-03 20:24:59
QUOTE(stuart @ Oct 3 2008, 08:18 PM) [snapback]521682[/snapback]
The tide isn't turning I don't think, price falls are increasing month by month and we still have a bit of catching up to do with England. The banks aren't going to restart their mad lending practices again for a long time either so the housing market won't reach the same levels they were at a year or so ago. All good news though that housing is now becoming more affordable again for the ordinary person without them getting up to their eyeballs in debt for 30 years with massive repayments every month.

I see us following the Japanese housing downturn, prices still haven't recovered some 15-20 years on.

I think the tide is turning at Cappielow!
mortonjag 2008-10-03 20:47:36
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 3 2008, 08:44 PM) [snapback]521691[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-10-03 20:59:46
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 3 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]521692[/snapback]
I call that Mortonjag will bottle it again. blush.gif

Mortonjag does not 'bottle' anything, SPARROT-not even his victims' urine.

Mortonjag has stated unequivocally that he was not prepared to waste his valuable time listening to THAT self obsessed old fud talk down those who were crazy enough to imagine he would answer their questions.

Please don't insult with the usual tedious and predictable comparison. Mortonjag is a highly intelligent, highly qualified, and vastly experienced professional gentleman. Mortonjag does not manufacture Fudgy Wudgys.

What did you think of those letters to the Tilly? Do you think 'Mr Fudgy Wudgy' will respond quickly? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 21:13:29
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 3 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]521697[/snapback]
...no..you said you were away in London smile.gif

Are the two mutually exclusive?

Show Mortonjag that post please, and BTW he thought you were going to send him a wee p.m.! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 21:16:40
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 3 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]521700[/snapback]
I wouldn't waste my time reading that rag of a paper.
I'm sure his response time will hinge on the successes or otherwise that lie ahead, starting tomorrow of course.

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mortonjag 2008-10-03 21:37:45
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Oct 3 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]521703[/snapback]
And of course you can guarantee that?

It's less certain, I'll grant you, than the death throes of Rae sycophancy. rip.gif

What is YOUR assessment of Mr Rae's current performance?
mortonjag 2008-10-03 21:46:13
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 3 2008, 09:37 PM) [snapback]521711[/snapback]
Heard Willowman's good at getting plastered
...wait..that's not right is it?

Nope Puggs-just tediously and predictably unfunny.

I'm just about to have supper-fried pigs ovaries on a bed of lambs' lettuce, marinated for twenty four hours in semi solid frogs' keech. Care for a wee nibble?


FAO MidTONs -wise to get a plasterer on personal recommendation Jim. Highly specialised trade (contrary to what many think).
mortonjag 2008-10-04 07:02:40
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 3 2008, 09:55 PM) [snapback]521727[/snapback]
The irony is not lost on you ever is it? wub.gif

That's just a standard variation of your usual 'pot, kettle, black', and incidentally you still haven't produced the promised p.m., which is relevant to that AND to my posting here! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-04 07:11:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 3 2008, 10:44 PM) [snapback]521758[/snapback]
Answer was there none.

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If you've ever had pertussis Newt, you'll know the association of real whoops with a chronic and troublesome affliction most commonly demonstrated by immature children.
mortonjag 2008-10-04 07:24:40
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 3 2008, 09:47 PM) [snapback]521718[/snapback]
MJ refers to a fanny pad and it reappears !!

Where have you been ??

I thought you had retired when McInally went ...

There are no guarantees with pretty much anything , worldwide banking crisis , weapons of mass destruction (no reference to anyone in particular .... honest ) , take your pick .

There are no handcuffs on DDFR to renovate the stadia to SPL standards unless we are in danger of playing there .

Just as there are no definites that Crawford would want to takeover the reigns from Pop .

Why would a guy who is semi retired doesn't really know how much he is worth want the club for any other reason than to make good . I have to ask if you have doubts about Mr Donald why is the on the board ?

DDFR commented that he was an expert in business and he expressed the benefits of having someone like that on board .


I sometimes get bizarre lateral thought processes Chrissiboi. 'Fanny' made me think of that funny bit in Chaucer's MILLAR'S TALE-oh no that's Chris -he's Midge-you're PETER-no, he's Spoonsy ....sorry Chrissiboi, I'll off for my 'halcyon' pill.


THERE-I'm ok again and so sorry..........the funny bit in the Miller's tale where the fanny is kissed followed by the astounded comment that 'a woman hath no beard'.

I see we're up to 62% anti fuddery this morning!
mortonjag 2008-10-04 07:42:24
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Oct 3 2008, 09:49 PM) [snapback]521720[/snapback]
Oh yes you are. Idiot. laugh.gif

OH NO, Mortonjag's NOT-Anus. How long will your hero take to repudiate those letters?



repudiate

verb (used with object)
to reject with disapproval or condemnation: to repudiate a new doctrine. wacko.gif



QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 3 2008, 10:18 PM) [snapback]521743[/snapback]
Well you did ask
Seems you were 'out the country'; the defence rests smile.gif

And you'll get your PM sometime Sunday I predict

I did indeed ask as I couldn't be arsed trawling back through hunners of posts. I simply wanted to see how I had worded it. I well remember now deciding to 'go for it' knowing full well that you and the rest of the wee 'f*nnies' would call me a baw bag anyway-damned if I did, and damned if I didn't. The truth is that, had listening to the Fudmeister drone on been more important, I could have cancelled that trip at an hour's notice.

...or to put it differently I've NEVER had a case to answer! laugh.gif


It's not MY p.m. by the way-I did not request one though it will be interesting to hear your comments on what I said to you. Why is it taking so long-is it being ghost written for you by a English scholar? laugh.gif


How soon do you think the old sugar boiler will take to 'knee jerk' in the Tilly?
mortonjag 2008-10-04 07:49:05
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 4 2008, 05:02 AM) [snapback]521803[/snapback]
Or this getting up at 5am so as to get the first train may not be worth it laugh.gif

Didn't you mean 'We had better win'?

Anyway-I'm not going as the weather's pish. My brother and I will take in next Sunday's instead-never planned to do both.

I was predicting a 0-0 draw, but this morning I have a good feeling that we'll get the three points. bouncy.gif eek.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-04 07:59:52 All this talk of a DDR2 has got me worried sick.
mortonjag 2008-10-04 08:11:15
QUOTE(Gonzo @ Oct 4 2008, 12:24 AM) [snapback]521789[/snapback]
went for the third option, basically because the conversation leads to this every time i meet him ...

also, the conversation resulting in the construction of this poll was truly hilarious :L
i draw the conclusion that VT is a pretentious moron with a messiah complex and an awful sense of direction !

however not a bad guy at all biggrin.gif and yes i got VT confused with another poster however one day his urinal confrontation shall come, even if only due to mjs months of stalking resulting in a prison sentence unsure.gif

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I have merely been attempting to give the child the benefit of my wisdom. A shag in return is cheap in terms of tuition fees.
mortonjag 2008-10-04 08:32:16
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 3 2008, 11:06 PM) [snapback]521774[/snapback]
I can't really blame Emin or Hirst, frauds and cack artists they might be, but they're flexing their egos and exploiting delusions in return for fame and big bucks. I blame the art establishment: the collectors, investors, media mugs, sunday supplement sycophants and fashion followers. That fecking lot of charlatans wouldn't know the difference between the Mona Lisa and a pig's arse.

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mortonjag 2008-10-04 09:12:57
QUOTE(midTONs @ Oct 3 2008, 10:35 PM) [snapback]521748[/snapback]
The birch.

CORRECT

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 3 2008, 10:44 PM) [snapback]521757[/snapback]
I'm not biting.

Good-that'll save me having to wade through another ten pages of your self indulgent slavering about your heroic exploits in your knife crime rife scheme. mad.gif

Carry a knife-get tanned within an inch of your life-it's about freedom of choice sonny boy!!!

If you want to keep your arse nice and pink for your first gay encounter, don't go out 'tooled up'! mad.gif ph34r.gif dry.gif

PS...and the moment one of your loved ones dies in an unprovoked stabbing, all that fanciful nonsense will flee your cranium like snow off a dyke. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-04 09:37:57
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Oct 4 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]521823[/snapback]
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....and if you keep voting it could get even higher rolleyes.gif

I have already used up all 62 votes Cloth Ears. Prepare to see a massive reversal in the Fudmeister's fortunes! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-04 10:14:02
QUOTE(capitanus @ Oct 4 2008, 10:00 AM) [snapback]521826[/snapback]
FWIW I think VikingTon is one of the good guys out there.

I may not always agree with him but he is comes out with some decent, well reasoned contributions to these messageboard most often in a very articulate manner.

Its only a messageboard on t'Internet. Get a grip folks. smile.gif

He fakes articulacy by use of plagiarism. Catch VT 'off guard', and you will find a roughly hewn youth who has barely mastered the arts of reading and writing!

He is, however, a bright child, of whom Mortonjag is somewhat fond.

When he learns to accept Mortonjag's frequent and helpful advice, his life will improve drastically, as will his English prose and grammar!
mortonjag 2008-10-04 13:04:00
QUOTE(The Hustler @ Oct 4 2008, 11:37 AM) [snapback]521848[/snapback]
Clearly a crucial match for us today and especially for the Manager. I see that Michael Gardyne was quoted in the DailyRanger today stating that Morton players are on a "double win bonus" to beat County. Seems to smack of desperation to me if that is the case and it also makes us sound like a bunch of mercenaries. Disappointing as I figure the players owe the club and the fans a turn without getting double money.


HMM-if true, sounds like Rae's making a last ditch effort to save face with his choice of Manager, and of course if it backfires DI will probably be off shortly.
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 4 2008, 12:16 PM) [snapback]521863[/snapback]
The double win bonus was mentioned in some local teuchter press up there - personally I was suprised that the printing press had arrived in backwardland.

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A very civilised and respectable neck o' the woods. Not too many morons running about schemes with chibs VT!
mortonjag 2008-10-04 13:15:22
QUOTE(capitanus @ Oct 4 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]521831[/snapback]
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Sometimes you remind me of Julian Danskin.

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QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 4 2008, 11:50 AM) [snapback]521852[/snapback]
Thought you'd have lost your teeth by now. happy.gif

You get SO much wrong my boy! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-04 13:25:11
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 4 2008, 11:53 AM) [snapback]521853[/snapback]
I'd like to think a balance in society ought to be struck between civil liberties and safety. It appears some would welcome the Gestapo if it meant a reduction in such cases. Their valid opinion, but one I'm not willing to share.

If they are solely to deal with knife wielding scumbags, bring them on AND their boss!

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 4 2008, 12:09 PM) [snapback]521857[/snapback]
There's a certain irony about your post.

No there's nothing ironic about finding your flogging a dead horse utterly tiresome. You've made up your little mind that you 'know better', and listen son-you know f*ck all-so f*ck off on this one.

If you want to tell me about pop choons, PS3, and street cred, I won't argue with YOU! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-04 14:27:43
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Oct 4 2008, 01:47 PM) [snapback]521890[/snapback]
Boys. Can your Uncle Ian give you some advice? Rather than go to politics lectures and then post on some internet board about how popular someone is or isn't, can I suggest that you get yourself down the the Union. Do you realise there is cheap alcohol and girls in there and there is so much fun to be had- you ask any of the graduates on this board about how much fun was had in the Union because in 4 years time when you've graduated and your in some call centre or office you're going to look back and say "f***, I wish I had pulled that wee bird rather than have a debate on the internet".

One further piece of advice if you do try and chat a bird up to try and pop your cherry don't do the following: talk about politics, talk about the Morton board and dont ask can she pop your cherry cause you'll get a boot on the baws and you cannae run with sore baws.

Boys it's been a pleasure, but like a Jews foreskin, I'm offski.

Would any adults like to confirm corroborate this please?

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If you mean that freshers are often wee f*nnies-YES!
mortonjag 2008-10-04 16:30:04
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 4 2008, 04:26 PM) [snapback]522033[/snapback]
I don't think he does panic, he just misses chances lke every good striker does. He also continues to get into goal scoring positions.

The manager showing a bit more faith in him will boost his confidence further and his ratio of chances to goals will greatly improve. Dropping him after albeit a crucial miss is shocking man management when you consider others have been putting in below par performances all season and not pulling their weight in the same manner as Russell.

Don't care what anyone says, I've seen how clinical he was with Brechin, he's a natural.

Correct!
mortonjag 2008-10-04 16:31:29
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Oct 4 2008, 04:29 PM) [snapback]522043[/snapback]
1-0 county

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mortonjag 2008-10-04 16:33:15
QUOTE(El gofer @ Oct 4 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]522050[/snapback]
You are joking! Is that 2 in a minute?

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mortonjag 2008-10-04 16:38:05
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 4 2008, 04:34 PM) [snapback]522067[/snapback]
Not like you to show up on a match thread. rolleyes.gif

Welcome along.

That's 'cos I'm always at matches Naitch-anyway thanks!


TTGI?
mortonjag 2008-10-04 16:40:42
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 4 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]522076[/snapback]
Won't make one iota of difference if Irons goes, maybe only temporarily.

We've a small, imbalanced, crap squad tied up on long contracts with big wages and no money to spend.

Until Rae either sells up or invites inward investment we'll be stuck in this rut. laugh.gif

TTGR?
mortonjag 2008-10-04 16:45:13
QUOTE(Malt @ Oct 4 2008, 04:40 PM) [snapback]522097[/snapback]
Rae has got to take a good, hard look at himself.

He has taken us as far as he can. Don;t think he realises how big a job it is being a chairman of a football club, he likes to play on former glory -

Bring back Hopkin, Bring back Mahood, Hawke, Argy top, Tartan top etc

Not good enough. A clear out is needed.

We will lose any TV deal that BBC alba may create as we will be in 2nd division at this rate.

SORT IT OUT RAE. NOT f***ING ACCEPTABLE!



QUOTE(Malt @ Oct 4 2008, 04:42 PM) [snapback]522109[/snapback]
Rae is taking us backward. Looks like he will be a ppointing his 6th or 7th manager.

Disgraceful. The £180k debt is gonna increase when fans vote with their feet and we are in 2nd division AGAIN.

some 3 year plan he had.

Would prob be better with Willy Wonka as Chairman as apposed to this joke!

mortonjag 2008-10-04 16:50:54
f*** OFF RAE YOU INCOMPETENT OLD FUD

f*** RIGHT OFF YOU F*CKING EMBARRASSMENT OF A MAN

YOUR CREDIBILITY IS THANKFULLY GONE FOREVER-IT WILL NOT RETURN

WHY DID FOLK LAUGH ME TO SCORN THREE YEARS AGO?

YOU HAVE DRAGGED OUR CLUB BACK TO THE GUTTER

WELL F*CKIN' DONE YOU INCOMPETENT OLD FUD


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mortonjag 2008-10-04 17:02:00
QUOTE(Malt @ Oct 4 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]522149[/snapback]
If you look back I did not have Irons as my favoured choice when we seen the shortlist. I was for Jim Duffy.

There is a trend that regardless of who the manager is, the same problems occur. The only thing that remains the same is the man at the top.

He is the one who appoints these guys as managers and we aint really seen anyone who has performed above average.

Why the f*** should I lay off Rae? I pay a lot of money to watch morton and getting very little in return. I am sick and tired of the same old rubbish, bring a friend etc Provide us with good football and a clear, achievale plan for the future and we will bring our whole family and their friends.

The problem is at the top. Has been for many a time. Doesn;t matter who the manager is. As long as it is the Dougie Rae show we aint going anywhere!"

EXACTLY-Irons will now be sacrificed. Who signed bloody Irons. Get RAE TO F*CK!

QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 4 2008, 04:53 PM) [snapback]522157[/snapback]
You've been listening to Joe Kinnear's press conferences, haven't you? tongue.gif
Still, no point in launching a personal attack against Rae... he is a nice guy. As Morton Chairman though, the time has come for him to 'review' his position and hopefully sell up to someone who has the ability/ambition to move this club forward.

NO HE IS NOT A NICE GUY-HIS EGO IS BIGGER THAN ALL OF US-I WARNED THREE YEARS AGO-I DON'T CARE ANY MORE ABOUT F*CKING NICETIES-FOLK ARE ALREADY WRITING TO THE PAPERS-RAE ANSWERS TO NOBODY-WELL IT'S TIME TO START GIVING SOME ANSWERS WITH HIS BLOODY FEET-SIGN A COMPETENT DIRECTOR OF FOOTBALL NOW AND DISAF*CKING PEAR! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-04 17:24:23
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 4 2008, 05:11 PM) [snapback]522214[/snapback]
Director of football? Now I know you're kidding... rolleyes.gif
Why don't we just go for Mr Kinnear, he won't be doing anything in a few weeks time...tongue.gif

I am NOT kidding. I've always known Rae could never fully step aside. I suggested a Director of Football three years ago as the only option that MIGHT work while he's still around, but even then I doubt if he could delegate. It actually HURTS me that quite a few still can't see what a bloody menace that man is. Irons will be sacrificed forthwith. Rae has no choice-it will happen-guaranteed, and the old fud will YET AGAIN try to buy some time, while ignoring us completely in preference to the remaining sycophantic weasels who still get high on a mere whiff of his flatus.

RAE-JUST GET TO F*CK PLEASE. rip.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-04 17:38:33
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 4 2008, 05:30 PM) [snapback]522259[/snapback]
The Director of Football post just does not work on these shores. It's not an option IMHO.

EDIT: The bit in bold there... you should tell him that to his face. If only there was some sort of organised get together between the fans and the board. Maybe even a Q&A session.... rolleyes.gif

GROW UP FFS-this is NOT the time for cheap jibes-Rae answers to nobody-his Q & A'S ARE A STAGE MANAGED JOKE.

If you are so bloody clever WHAT IS THE OPTION? Irons like every manager before him is only a pawn on Rae's rickety old chess board, and the old eejit has just been put into 'mate' by his own ego.
mortonjag 2008-10-04 17:45:13
QUOTE(Muz @ Oct 4 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]522184[/snapback]
Two common denominators here throughout, and it's not the support so that's one.

I want answers Douglas. Now.

Oh I'm sure you'll be getting them aplenty once Irons has been shown the door. In a week or so he'll be announcing proudly his next f*cking stooge who 'will be with us for a long time to come'.

GET HIM TO F*CK OUT OF OUR LIVES.
mortonjag 2008-10-04 17:52:02
QUOTE(Cawston @ Oct 4 2008, 05:31 PM) [snapback]522265[/snapback]
He's been playing his cards to his chest since arriving at Cappielow, but surely if he has a hand to play now is the time.

He talked about being at the club in an advisory capacity, what advice is he actually providing? Nothing appears to have changed for the better.

Time to out yourself Alistair, "are you up for it"?


What an original question Cawstick-I've a good mind to do you for copyright infringement! laugh.gif
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 4 2008, 05:33 PM) [snapback]522272[/snapback]
The script is about 35 pages of mostly idle conjecture, slurs and little of actual worth, unfortunately. Despite the prevalence of these threads I haven't the foggiest as to what is happening regarding this. I'm sure Mortonjag does...

Correct-you haven't, and until you grow up-stay off serious threads please. Time for your next nappy change.

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 4 2008, 05:36 PM) [snapback]522278[/snapback]
As I have mentioned before, there is no knight in shining armour waiting to take over.
If Dougie wants to stay then he will. At this moment in time Crawford is the only other option.


PROOF?
QUOTE(Youngsa @ Oct 4 2008, 05:46 PM) [snapback]522307[/snapback]
Can we take it that his advice has been one of the following

1. Its not been forthcoming
2. Is s***e
3. Has been ignored
Something has not been right at Cappielow for some time and you get the feeling its about to come to a head.


Indeed Youngsa-something that's 77 years of age, and has the cheek to talk about a results driven game when it's his bloody ba' we have to play with.
mortonjag 2008-10-04 18:06:59 In a few weeks Davie Irons who has undoubtedly done his best, will be a distant memory at Cappielow. The man whom the Chairman promised 'Would be with us for a long time to come' will have been sacrificed amidst the usual platitudes about his 'decency, professionalism, and dedication' and mumblings about ' A results driven business'.

It is indeed a results driven business Mr Rae- a business which you've singularly failed to manage competently from day one. All the spin in the world cannot disguise the true facts that we STRUGGLED our way to division one and are now plummeting back down the leagues. ONLY ONE person is ultimately to blame-the man who swans onto the pitch to give his little pre-match talks-the man who sickened Alan McGraw with his interference in team matters-the man whose programme notes are merely thinly disguised self gratifying drivel. In seven short years Morton's saviour has become Morton's executioner.

So I say to all true Morton fans-it's time to forget our petty squabbles and differences. It's time to stop singling out individual players, or wishing a public hanging on yet another management team.

Only when Rae is MADE to step aside is there any chance of progress. I don't know how that can be accomplished, but so long as he believes he still has a shred of support, it's going to be longer coming round.


TTGR!
mortonjag 2008-10-04 18:24:24
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Oct 4 2008, 06:13 PM) [snapback]522355[/snapback]
Buy the club then. Or start phoning men who could. Maybe you could start a campaign to find a potential buyer, getting Rae out will be our death if we didn't find a suitable buyer. So why don't you actually do something useful and start a positive campaign, instead of a negative one.

I don't want to upset anybody by using emotive language. Instead I'll merely ask you what is in the slightest negative about looking for general agreement on the underlying problem? Until there is acceptance of the disease we can't start effectively looking for a cure. I've just listened to 'Derek from Paisley' on Jim Traynor's 'phone in-saying EXACTLY what I'm saying-and guess what-Traynor was agreeing with him. Without the fansTraynor says, the Chairman has nothing.
mortonjag 2008-10-04 18:35:06
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 4 2008, 06:16 PM) [snapback]522362[/snapback]
MJ, you have failed to give one specific fact about Rae. It's all conjecture. The same as it's conjecture about someone wanting to buy the Club.
If Irons goes then he deserves to go by the results we have had to endure.

I have heard of no player or manager past or present that has had a problem with Dougie interfering in team matters. The only place I have heard it is on these message boards.
When Irons came in and saved us from the drop, we were happy to see him take the helm at Cappielow. He basically made it impossible for Dougie not to hire him as Manager.

I haven't a clue what's gone wrong this season. But I'm not going to solely lay the blame on Dougies door step.
The players and management are in front of Dougie in the blame game.

It is not all conjecture Spurtle. I can't afford to get angry or upset about it-several other posters will confirm that.

QUOTE(cornbeef @ Oct 4 2008, 06:21 PM) [snapback]522365[/snapback]
Just what we needed - another anti Rae thread by Mortonjag. Haven't you made your position clear in the bulk of 25k posts ? yer becoming a bore now.

It is not MY position. It may have been MY position three years ago, but the tide has well and truly turned. Mr Rae deserves everything that's coming to him and more, and I am far from a voice crying in the wilderness now.

Come revolutions, people like yourself and Spoonton tend to become mob fodder-that's just another fact of life.

It's NOT another 'anti Rae thread'- it's an appeal to folk to finally accept reality. We've already had a 60/40 poll saying it's time to go, and 'time to go' it most certainly is.

Either that or we can continue to be treated like rape victims as we slither miserably back to the Third Division and possibly worse.
mortonjag 2008-10-04 18:50:17
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 4 2008, 06:33 PM) [snapback]522388[/snapback]
The fans wanted McInally out, not Rae. Many in the game believe McInally has a bright future in the game as a coach ( I'm not one of them I have to say).
Many of us wanted Irons after he saved the Club going to the 2nd division, same as Dougie.

Dougie is not perfect but he is getting flack from some with the benefit if hindsight.

Which he THOROUGHLY deserves.

QUOTE(cmdc @ Oct 4 2008, 06:35 PM) [snapback]522393[/snapback]
That's well and good, and I agree with the problems you've highlighted...but there is no potential "new regime" to speak of. What's more, unless a potential buyer is cash rich, the credit situation would probably make this about the worst time to go out and look for a buyer.

Except for a man worth almost 100 million sitting right next to Rae in the bloody Directors' box.
NOne so blind!!!!!!!!!!!!!
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 4 2008, 06:38 PM) [snapback]522396[/snapback]
Sorry MJ, until you provide one scintilla of factual evidence then it is conjecture.


Listen Spurtle-I'm not on here for the sake of a clever argument over words. We're heading for guaranteed relegation and it's a serious matter. Along with several other posters 'in the know' I'm genuinely VERY concerned about the future of our club. I've never suggested Rae should be hounded out-he could still take a sidestep and appoint competent people to run the club, but I fear his ego prevents that from ever being a reality.

There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING conjectural about the dossier of information I have. It is, however, confidential. That is an entirely different concept, and the information merely highlights crass incompetence and self indulgence which is in any event becoming daily more obvious to those who want to see the truth.
mortonjag 2008-10-04 18:58:42
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Oct 4 2008, 06:49 PM) [snapback]522414[/snapback]
I've already said today that Rae needs better advice in appointing a new manager. He probably needs to take a step back from the whole process and find some football-minded Morton men to help. Our last 3 appointments have been made by understandable reasons but ultimately were wrong appointements:

Cowboy had a good record at QP and a good record at Dundee. He had shown he knew how to get a team promoted. But in the end he failed to control the team he had brought together.

McInally was brought in because the the old-fashioned manager didn't succeed. Fresh ideas and enthusiasm got McInally the job, but there wasn't enough tactical knowledge or motivation to do the job, and he failed.

Rae believed Irons was the trainer behind Gretna's rise. Irons perhaps was just that, and is perhaps an excellent coach, but a manager he is not.

Rae has made bad decisions for understandable reasons. And now the time has come for him to take a real step back from this process.

Correct-because he will never appoint anyone over whom he cannot maintain full control.

SpoonTon, the man is 77 years of age.


HE CANNOT CHANGE-that is why he has to give way-take a back seat graciously-let Alistair Donald at least MAKE the next lot of appointments and weed out the crap from Cappielow, even if he doesn't want to spend right now.

Rae said he's here in an 'advisory capacity'.

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I reckon AD will make his move soon! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-04 20:29:34
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 4 2008, 07:37 PM) [snapback]522480[/snapback]
MJ, I'm as concerned about our current plight just as much as you are. I have asked for facts, but you say you can't provide that at the moment.
You seem an honourable man, so I won't say I disbelieve you. But you are not going to convince me and perhaps more than a few others by trying to prove your point by having continuous personal attacks on Dougie Rae.
You could prove to me tomorrow that all you say is true and I still would not approve of the way you are going about things.
If you have concerns then lets go about things in an adult way instead of petty personal attacks.

What a beautiful concept. I agree that that is the ideal, but we are attempting to cope with a man who hasn't even a basic grasp of 'listening', and who appears never to have understood the meaning of 'respect'.

The only thing which will ever 'sting' Mr Rae is the realisation, despite all his bluster and talking down of legitimate comment, his refusal to answer pertinent questions, and despite reassurances to the contrary by his carefully selected entourage of satellites and 'spies', several of whom masquerade here as bona fide posters, that he has lost popularity and credibility.

Personal attacks-yes-and thoroughly deserved. Petty-not when that man's utterly self obsessed mismanagement is ruining our club Spurtle.

I am, however, willing to listen to any suggestions you have as to a better way to finally force him to open his eyes.
mortonjag 2008-10-04 20:36:54
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Oct 4 2008, 08:23 PM) [snapback]522505[/snapback]
Good posts.

It'd wouldn't get the support of the majority of fans and indeed it'd probably only get the support of about 20 - 30.

It's ok typing stuff like this from behind a keyboard but folk will find excuses nearer the time not to join in.
Remember this Morton support isn't the united support we had 6 or 7 years ago.

Correct Willy Man. Apathy reigns. Until the fans are totally united against the cancerous growth its effects will still ravage the body of the club we love.
mortonjag 2008-10-04 20:44:59 C'mon folks-the answer is staring us in the face. F*ck figureheads! Rae's been the real manager all along and wasting good money on inexperienced front men.

Two or three weeks of doing the jog on his lonesome would soon sort the meddlesome old fud out. With nobody else to blame, the fans would turn on him lock stock and barrel. It's no less than he deserves. He is the problem-simple.

Why so many still seem so blind is a total mystery to me.

mortonjag 2008-10-04 20:52:21
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 4 2008, 08:34 PM) [snapback]522514[/snapback]
Why are personal attacks, in this instance, 'thoroughly deserved'?

Because one PERSON is ultimately to blame for the mess we're in yet that blame is variably diverted on to managers, the fans, and the players.

When our club is being destroyed-AS IT IS- I believe that any true fan wants to attack the destroyer.

Given that this is the third time today that you have questioned my RIGHT to attack Rae, I'm beginning to sense from you-and not for the first time- a personal attack BECAUSE I criticise him.

I presume you are satisfied with his stewardship. blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-04 20:55:51 All I can say is 'Hurry back guys'. Some fools on here still want to give the arch enemy of progress an easy ride.

I've a funny feeling that when you lot return, the s*** will really hit the fan! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-04 21:03:50
QUOTE(grnklad2006ton @ Oct 4 2008, 06:46 PM) [snapback]522409[/snapback]
If you fellow fans think that sacking Davie Irons is the answer to this situation then you are very much in for a shock, that goes for you too MR RAE. He is quick enough to sack any manager that doesn’t get results but why is this? I have seen what irons can do with the correct backing of a chairman when he took Gretna to the SPL. A chairman must invest heavily in his team to get something back and that’s something he needs to take a look at before he starts sacking people. Alex Ferguson couldn’t even take this pool of players forward if he was under RAE. You need quality players and a hefty some of money to invest in. Our position in the league will not tell lies to us about where Rae is taking our club. Before anyone starts shouting for Iron’s head take a long hard look at Mr Rae.

We wanted McInally sacked and thought a new boss was the key, now we have irons we are looking for someone to blame and its all to easy to blame Irons. Hope you read this board RAE, your not a bad guy in person but you have taken this club as far as you will ever.

Ask your self this folks before you want people to lose there job.

1. Is it Irons fault our strikers are all rank rotten ?
2. Is it Irons fault his chairman does not give him funds to make a real challenge
3. Is Irons on the park and losing us games personally ? Or is it the 11 boys he puts on the park????
4. What happened the last time Irons was backed by a chairman, Gretna?
5. Why does no player that’s half decent never want to come to cappielow? Suppose you blame Irons

BRING A FRIEND MR RAE, Don’t ever insult us morton fan’s like that again with you stupid suggestion’s about our support fading away to nothing. Nearly 5 hours to Dingwall to see that and you ask us to bring a friend. Take a long hard look at why the numbers a fading, your time is up


I don't agree with everything you say but you are correct in principle.

THE BUCK STOPS FAIRLY AND SQUARELY AT RAE

He was willing to accept all the Kudos when we 'won' promotion by losing at Kircaldy. He was quick to join DI on the pitch at Firhill only six short months ago.

So-Mr Rae-WELL done-we all know you mastermind everything. You are now the mastermind of abysmal failure. It IS time to go.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 06:44:43
QUOTE(Malt @ Oct 4 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]522149[/snapback]
The problem is at the top. Has been for many a time. Doesn;t matter who the manager is. As long as it is the Dougie Rae show we aint going anywhere!"



QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Oct 4 2008, 04:58 PM) [snapback]522172[/snapback]
That said though, sacking Irons would surely leave Mr Rae's position untenable, it would be te final admission that he has been an abject failure.

Or his last hope of deflecting the blame-Irons will be off-guaranteed.

QUOTE(Ghost @ Oct 4 2008, 04:59 PM) [snapback]522179[/snapback]
The only way that the old geezer will leave is when we all stand our ground as fans

Or when AD doubles his previous offer?

QUOTE(Muz @ Oct 4 2008, 05:05 PM) [snapback]522200[/snapback]
I cant wait to see what happens on Monday with Rae- has the man the audacity to ignore the fans now? Probably yes.

Hmm-probably agree with you! dry.gif

QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 4 2008, 05:44 PM) [snapback]522303[/snapback]
Cheap jibes? Give me a break.

What we need is a complete clear out where DDFR is not involved with the club and get someone else in who will hire a manager who can do their job with little/no interference.

NO you don't deserve a break on that one. Rae's Q & A's are a bloody farce. Don't tell me what we 'need' when I've asked how to deal with the current situation. We can all dream of ideals, but so long as Raes big neb has to be in the door, the best we can hope for is at least SOME level of effective delegation! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(vicmaramyton @ Oct 4 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]522605[/snapback]
see you .....you t***.....where were you when morton nearly went to the wall????? EXACTLLY so shut the f**k up. It's so easy to throw stones (or bits of jealous vile,like you)at a man who put his money where his mouth was.....YOU couldn,t save us when we needed it so why do you think we either NEED or WANT your "imput"on morton things now?Give the man a break........david

David RAE? wacko.gif

QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Oct 4 2008, 11:25 PM) [snapback]522642[/snapback]
So you don't like him then. Your a headbanger!!!

No I don't like him and I even more dislike sycophantic weasels like yourself Mr M. You had a bloody field day two or three years ago when the Jag took constant abuse from 90% for daring to criticise your f*ckin' pin up boy. He sure deserves a bloody gold star, now. He must be SOOOOO proud of his faithful pond life.

As for me being a 'head banger'-perhaps Mr. M.-but even a bloody head banger can see right through Rae except for that dense round opacity occupying his terminal colon. 'KEEK' rip.gif

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 5 2008, 12:38 AM) [snapback]522696[/snapback]
Can't remember the name of the guy but there's a biographer of George Bush who said that there are two common misconceptions about him; he's stupid but a nice guy. The writer says he's neither. I think the same may be said about our leader.

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mortonjag 2008-10-05 06:52:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 5 2008, 05:58 AM) [snapback]522804[/snapback]
Good morning MJ,

Has a good night's sleep helped you to feel any better about this fiasco of a season ?

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QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 5 2008, 06:36 AM) [snapback]522806[/snapback]
MJ can't be happy.

He was on here at 6 am and hasn't made a single post.

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Good morning Newt.

Today's weather forecast is excellent-a pleasant change after a very unpredictable and somewhat miserable summer.

I doubt if it's possible to feel 'better' about 'Fiasco at Fortress Cappielow'.

I'm constantly sickened by the blinkered and sycophantic creeps who continue to give Rae credibility.

I just feel like spilling the beans on everything. That would soon put the 'nice man' story to bed! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 07:01:36
QUOTE(Cawston @ Oct 4 2008, 10:04 PM) [snapback]522598[/snapback]
This is very sad, even by your low standards.

I have no problem with the content of the letter, what I don't get is why you're denying you wrote the letter? At least Irnbru had a set of nuts. Name and address supplied laugh.gif

Personal attacks like that do no credit to your intelligence Cawstic. You appear to be another sicko who gets a kick from stalking the Jag.

Mortonjag knows EXACTLY what he's doing-- thank you very much. If Mortonjag had written that letter it would have been signed by Mortonjag. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 07:09:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 5 2008, 06:57 AM) [snapback]522809[/snapback]
Well, MJ, your credibility on here seems to climbing the charts with a bullet.

However, as you and I have posted SO OFTEN ... none are so blind, etc.

MJ, you could post most of what you know, Sugar Rae's minions would still support him.

Sad, but true, IMHO.

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Indeed Sir-you are a wise man. Hitler's weasel sycophants were still praising him to the hilt for some time after the power crazed eejit had put a bullet through his head!


It's Sunday, Newt-the day of prayer and supplication! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 07:16:10
QUOTE(Embraton @ Oct 4 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]522429[/snapback]
Talk of inward investment (letter to Telegraph and elsewhere) and some alternative sugar daddy is pie-in-the-sky unless some of George Bush's $700Bn comes our way. Poor performance is not helping our gate but the financial squeeze is forcing a drop in gates round the country. Any investor, at the levels we would need for a dramatic change to the team and management structure, has to look at the return and affordability of his or her investment. We are unlikely to get anyone with the lifetime passion that DDFR demonstrates. So let's not kid ourselves that there's likely to be a massive rush to invest in the club. Like it or not we need to be thankful that we have our current sugar daddy. If you don't like that but are passionate about the club then I'm afraid you'll just have to live with it and get behind the club as best you can.

Every time I hear words like 'devotion', and 'passion' attributed to that self obsessed, arrogant, dismissive, niggardly, ego polishing, qauasi literate old fud, I think even LESS of the author than I do of his subject. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 07:32:39
QUOTE(Marshall_2oo7 @ Oct 4 2008, 05:47 PM) [snapback]522311[/snapback]
Exactly, terrible situation, "play bad for long enough and you can have two games win bonus for one match".

Wouldn't even surprise me that Rae offered that, this is a football club Rae not the sweetie factory GTF.

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QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 4 2008, 07:10 PM) [snapback]522449[/snapback]
Bob I have to agree it maybe the only way to get a crowd for the Dundee game by giving something back to the fans who have suffered . Although I doubt it are the ARTC still not awaiting their 100 quid from the Annan cup game .

Just one of the 'nice man's nice legacies Chris. I'm sure somebody with genuine passion-John Boag for example, would turn over in his grave if he knew half of what's been going on as a result of Rae's 'devotion'. dry.gif

QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Oct 4 2008, 07:36 PM) [snapback]522478[/snapback]
Rumour now becomes fact - ridiculous. mad.gif

I take it your master personally denied it to you, Anus. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 07:37:08
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Oct 4 2008, 05:48 PM) [snapback]522316[/snapback]
Personally, I think you'll 'break' before my pal Douglas does.

....which I find extremely encouraging! smile.gif

QUOTE(capello @ Oct 4 2008, 05:55 PM) [snapback]522335[/snapback]
I Have said this for a while now,how many more managers do we go through before Dougie stands up and takes the blame for his own mistakes,I bet his sweetie business is not run as bad as our club?.
Bottom line is we should be doing better with the squad we have ,ffs even the likes of clyde and airdrie are better than us ,for me the only denominator is dougie rae,he did save the club but at this rate he may well be killing it as well,as for AD he really needs to come out and state any intent he has, as the advisory capacity he claims to be doing is clearly not working,the whole infrastructure of the club is in a total mess from the top down,we deserve better than this pish!
Sort it out now or get someone who at least knows how to run a football club!!!

Indeed!
mortonjag 2008-10-05 07:44:25


QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Oct 5 2008, 12:05 AM) [snapback]522668[/snapback]
Hard to disagree, but before we dump him can we find a suitable successor.

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= but I disagree anyway! rip.gif eek.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 07:52:04
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Oct 5 2008, 12:10 AM) [snapback]522670[/snapback]
Don't tell me you never went to Dingwall. ohmy.gif

Do I sense an attempt to engage me in civilised conversation?

From YOU! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

No my friend, my brother and I took a look at the weather yesterday morning, and decided against-a very inspired decision as it transpired.

We WILL be at Dingwall a week today. Under the interim management, I fully expect us to progress to the Alba Cup Final.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 08:16:44
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 4 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]522146[/snapback]
He's only the tip of the iceberg. The real problem's Rae. Open your eyes, man! dry.gif

It's SO easy to blame Irons, and for sure he must go. I see him a wee bit like the captain of a ship on which everybody speaks a totally different language, there are three or four 'cliques' all vying for power, and the ship owner keeps telegraphing a change of course when it's too late. Maybe it was your iceberg comment!!!

QUOTE(stuart @ Oct 4 2008, 05:22 PM) [snapback]522235[/snapback]
I would agree with those sentiments. He has done a massive amount for our club but it seems that we have peaked under his leadership and are on the way back down. Whether his son takes over or someone totally new comes in I would probably like Mr Rae to step aside now. The last thing I want is for him to turn into some sort of hate figure, Rae should be remembered as a positive influence on Morton's history but, the way things are going, a lot of people's perceptions of him are going to be tainted.

The tragedy for Mr Rae (I personally don't give a f*ck for him and make no secret of it) is that those words Stuart, have a prophetic ring to them. If he passes over power NOW-either by true delegation, or by becoming receptive to AD, he still has time to retain credibility. Human nature is bizarre at times -folk can be extremely forgiving but there is ALWAYS the point of no return. For Rae that is VERY close IMO.

QUOTE(Ghost @ Oct 4 2008, 05:48 PM) [snapback]522314[/snapback]
Why, because players ran to the Chairman when things didnt go their way, seems to me the same thing is happening again. I'd love to go one on one with any of them who shirk a game, and their are quite a few of them

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mortonjag 2008-10-05 08:41:13
QUOTE(suda @ Oct 4 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]522547[/snapback]
It was only a matter of time before your concerted campaign started to look like a well thought out premonition, if there's one thing that's inevitable in football is that somebody's time is up. We were f***ed when he took over and since then we've climbed two leagues, we have progressed year on year sometimes not as quickly as some would of liked but that's life - it's not easy deal with it. You have never given the man even so much as a shred of acknowlegement for that instead you've consistently chipped away at every single thing he has done. It gives the impression of a jealous small man with a chip on his shoulder and too much time on your hands it's like he shat in your shoes. I'm not a sycophant or an insider all I can say is that I'm a fan with the best interests of the club at heart so don't even go down that route as I know you are an eloquent and intelligent master debater. Instead why don't you suggest how to improve our situation? Even better why don't you put up some of your brilliant family's vast wealth and buy the guy out. If the objective now is to replace the chairman then how do you go about it as this board has as much credibilty as a toilet wall, your wasting your time writing on here.

Reading your comment, I see where the 'toilet wall' comment comes from! laugh.gif

I have every right to criticise.

I am not obliged to be grateful.

I am under NO obligation of any kind whatsoever to offer to you ('a fan with the best interests of the club at heart'-PRESUMABLY UNLIKE ME dry.gif ) suggestions on how to improve matters, EVEN though I've regularly done so.

Then PSEUDO- we come to the true thrust of your post-highlighted in vibrant fucshia, and that is where your credibility Sir goes right down the lavvy pan.

The foregoing has been a polite way of saying what I originally intended, namely

AWAY AND F*CK YOURSELF
mortonjag 2008-10-05 08:50:58
QUOTE(suda @ Oct 4 2008, 10:22 PM) [snapback]522609[/snapback]
Yawn!!! Do we really need to devote anymore space to the individual involved here? I can see several pages developing talking about past incidents how they were right/wrong/pissed/true fans/decent guys at heart blah blah blah.

More PSEUDO intelligent pish!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Are you another arrogant fud like me?

It's a bloody fans' forum FFS-not a debate at the Royal Society of f*ckin' Philosophers.

NOTHING ELSE HAPPENED at bloody Dingwall-hadn't you noticed! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

At least this has got folk talking.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 08:54:53
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Oct 5 2008, 08:44 AM) [snapback]522824[/snapback]
Your mutual masturbation session this early on a Sunday is putting me off my slice and tattie scone roll. Please desist.

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Do you envisage an official valedictory service at Cappielow today with prayers for the outgoing management team from Rev Dave?
mortonjag 2008-10-05 09:05:03
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Oct 5 2008, 08:41 AM) [snapback]522823[/snapback]
Who wrote the letter is of no consequence. The fact that letters are being written, Ton fans views are getting air play on the radio etc is all that matters. Q&A sessions organised and managed by the club will elicit nothing from the chairman. Publically questioning his actions in the media will at the very least make things less comfortable for him as his halo begins to look a bit grubby.

Indeed-yesterday was a bad day all round for the club, with Allan Reid sounding off in the Sun-blaming DI for 'shafting him', 'Derek from Paisley' calling our Chairman in question-very articulately too- on Traynor's show, and the Ton consolidating its position as 'The only club in Scotland who have failed to win a single league match'.

Two letters published in Friday's Tilly have to be significant. It's utterly INCONCEIVABLE that they are the first to arrive in the 'Inverclyde Postbox', and their publication suggests a change of position by some in the Editorial department of the Tilly. Rae will NOT like this. His undoubted response will be extremely interesting.

Maybe he'll surprise us all by issuing an open and honest admission that he's totally lost the plot.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 13:15:46
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 5 2008, 11:17 AM) [snapback]522875[/snapback]
I thought Rae had already ran out of all credibility. Make your mind up please. smile.gif

He never HAD any credibility with me, you silly boy.Grow up and pay attention to your grammar and syntax!
mortonjag 2008-10-05 13:34:12
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 5 2008, 09:23 AM) [snapback]522834[/snapback]
We need clarity, we need a public statement, and we need to know what our future holds. The club is dying a slow death, crowds are plummeting, fans disinterested and we are now becoming a laughing stock in many eyes.

EXACTLY!


QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Oct 5 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]522854[/snapback]
There’s not a club in the world that’s not for sale if the right amount of money is waved in the face of the owners

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QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 5 2008, 10:24 AM) [snapback]522859[/snapback]
I do not know why but DDF choose not to hear what was on offer. Now to me that is just bloody mindedness and shows the contempt he can have for others, in DDF's eyes there is no one who could do as good a job as himself.

Any financial offer would presumably still have to see Rae incorporated somewhere in the executive. THAT'S THE PROBLEM for AD in my view.

QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Oct 5 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]522867[/snapback]
I would call upon all trust members to ask their board representative to ask serious questions as to what is going on. As the second biggest shareholder, they have a vested interest in how the club is run. I doubt though the trust will bother and will continue to be as ineffective as they have been so far.

The Trust is an utter waste of space in terms of acting in any financial watchdog capacity. That is a FACT. Questions asked have been fielded, while Jim McColl rubs shoulders with AD at Cappielow. That is plainly a FARCE.

The Trust has recently adopted the habit of playing 'hide and seek' on this forum. Ask a legitimate question, and Bryan pops up to say 'I'll get the answer'. He then scurries off to the high heid yins in the Bunker, and about two months later a carefully constructed answer is returned which says sweet f*ck all. The Trust committee should be ashamed of their comfort zone exclusivity and a seige mentality parallelled only by Raemanov himself.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 13:41:07
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Oct 5 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]522901[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif where's that pot kettle black thing when you need it

Probably up your arse with your scrapings of grey matter.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 13:43:43
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Oct 5 2008, 01:31 PM) [snapback]522987[/snapback]
I well aware that many others could have produced that letter and hold that opinion, but there was something about it, the tone perhaps, that made me think it was you. Anyway, TaunTon's talking sense here:
Maybe it'll make Rae wake up and realising what he's doing. I'm not getting my hopes up.

More probable is the fact that the general standard of prose on this massage board is an indictment of Scottish Education.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 13:51:33
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 5 2008, 11:15 AM) [snapback]522874[/snapback]
Why do you persist on making things personal on here when very few others are? It deflects from your argument, and quite frankly you're better than that.

How many Q&A's have you been to do decide that they're a farce, by the way? tongue.gif

Anyway....your last point there does raise a legitimate question. How long does Rae have before his 'big neb' is out the door?

For as long as posters like yourself continue to instigate the personal attacks my dear. I'd have thought that would be obvious to a man of your massive intellect. blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 13:58:31 I reckon Rae will be praying that he resigns. Failing that Rae will sack him to save face. It's just a matter of time. If he's in charge at Dingwall a week today I'll be very surprised.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 14:02:01
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Oct 5 2008, 01:55 PM) [snapback]523014[/snapback]
So the Morton player are unhappy. Well I have some startling news for them. mad.gif

You're supposed to be dead. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 14:04:34
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 5 2008, 12:14 PM) [snapback]522916[/snapback]
So much for going up and staying the night before the match. Having the pre-match meal at the normal time.

More like the last supper mad.gif

Hope somebody bought Judas's carry oot.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 14:08:47
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Oct 5 2008, 02:02 PM) [snapback]523027[/snapback]
Couldn't agree more, they should get off their comfortable arses, rally the fans to make a bid for the club and oust Douglas Rae.
If, as MJ says, they did get a carefully constructed answer to their questions, they should tell AD that his answer is s***e and that they want a different one. And if he refuses to give them one they like well they should, they should, they should, they should, what should they do MJ?

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The Trust is an utter waste of space in terms of acting in any financial watchdog capacity. That is a FACT.

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mortonjag 2008-10-05 14:16:51
QUOTE(leyTON @ Oct 4 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]522341[/snapback]
What a load of s***e.
Theres a difference between deciding its not woth the money and a staged protest.
I disagree with the chairman but think some people have a millitant anti chairman sentiment left over from *careful, or I'll close down the Internet*. He may be a dick, but we still exist dont we?

On the contrary leyTON, I believe Rae has had more than a superabundance of goodwill over his last seven years of treating less wealthy fellow fans like servile sh*t.

What sticks out a mile for me is a 'fear of the bogeyman' complex-something on which Rae has, till now at least, thrived.

I don't think Douglas Rae is a 'dick', though there is little doubt in my mind that in terms of Greenock Morton, the passe old fud's heid appears to be wedged up his erse, and he's lost all perspective if indeed he ever had any.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 14:21:20
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Oct 5 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]523012[/snapback]
Ah right, So that clears it all up then. You are Mentaljag after all. dry.gif

I beg your pardon-if I'm Mentaljag, you're Mick the Miller.


Only one person is entitled to call me Mentaljag, and he's somebody I respect.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 14:29:14
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 5 2008, 11:36 AM) [snapback]522887[/snapback]
If I owned a business and only employed Donkeys my business would fail miserably. If I then told those Donkeys how to do their job without myself having ANY experience of the task at hand do you think they would perform any better?

Rae's about to sack everybody and employ donkeys? I guess it is a slight improvement right enough.

QUOTE(port-ton @ Oct 5 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]522947[/snapback]
Make no mistake about it, Morton can survive without Douglas Rae's and his money and will do so in the future, but it can't survive without Morton fans and their money.

.....Rae only owns 3/4 of the Club in any case!

QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Oct 5 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]523036[/snapback]
Bump. No reply, MJ.

Have I missed something GG.

Alistair Donald wants the club-is that what I was to say? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 14:31:56
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 5 2008, 01:33 PM) [snapback]522990[/snapback]
When all else fails, resort to personal attacks. Have a look at yourself. rolleyes.gif

It's a gloriously sunny day in Glasgow today so I'm off out to enjoy it while it lasts, I politely suggest that you follow suit. Have a nice day. smile.gif

Baw bag! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 14:34:59
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 5 2008, 02:23 PM) [snapback]523040[/snapback]
Everyone else has to call you Douglas. sleep.gif

Don't be silly SPARROT-Mortonjag has many names. Mentaljag is a term coined by a respectable fellow poster. I'd hate any plagiarism on this forum. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 14:36:41
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Oct 5 2008, 01:43 PM) [snapback]522998[/snapback]
So, Is it safe to say you don't like him? dry.gif


Entirely.
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Oct 5 2008, 02:27 PM) [snapback]523043[/snapback]
aaww did that biggy doccy lad hit a bit of a raw nerve there laugh.gif

Not in the slightest. It was a serious answer.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 14:47:01
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Oct 5 2008, 02:34 PM) [snapback]523048[/snapback]
It's not illegal for me to say that because of McGraw's age and time out of the game then it would be the wrong choice for the next Morton manager. If you can name me another manager's McGraw's age, and on top of that one which has been out of the game for as long to come back and be successful, then I'd be very surprised.

But thanks for dismissing my point on account of my age rather than my argument rolleyes.gif

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If we did get McGraw back he'd stand no nonsense from the old fud and might well beat him about the head with one of his sticks. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 14:51:26
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Oct 5 2008, 02:35 PM) [snapback]523050[/snapback]
no, you still havn't provided an alternative to the rae's, because there isnt one.

I regard Alistair Donald as an alternative.

QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Oct 5 2008, 02:36 PM) [snapback]523053[/snapback]
I've seen bugger all input from Donald. What if he doesn't want to buy Morton and Rae and his money or his company are no longer there to cover the losses? Debt? Administration?

Without certainty of a better investor we currently have no alternative, unless I've missed something and you can enlighten me.


Another example of total illogicality. WE DO NOT NEED TO KNOW of an alternative for that alternative to exist.
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 5 2008, 02:40 PM) [snapback]523058[/snapback]
Can someone enlighten me as to why Douglas Rae/Golden Casket breaking ties with the club would result in administration, regardless, of any "buyer"? Morton are a profitable prospect if run in the right hands, without the need for outside investment.
Another example of Rae's rule by fear.

I couldn't agree more. I've said several times that on the strength of GC's collateral and with proper delegation from day one, we could be a profitable SPL club NOW.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 14:57:29
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Oct 5 2008, 02:32 PM) [snapback]523047[/snapback]
there is no bottom to your hate of dougie is there ? why bring up John Boag and how the f*** would you know if he was turning in his grave. You are one sick puppy and that is a step too far, arsehole.

That is a step too far?

Perhaps you'd care to explain that comment.

Who is this bloody 'dougie' anyway. Please don't confuse me with affectionate terms for a man who does not seemingly know the meaning of the word 'respect'.

You can think of that in terms of a man like John Boag if you choose-a man who always had my respect.

Several others know exactly where I'm coming from, and if you do too, your defence of your 'dougie' is a bloody disgrace. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 14:59:28
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Oct 5 2008, 02:55 PM) [snapback]523070[/snapback]
If it exists then WHAT IS IT and HOW DO WE USE IT?

That's a question I've been asking too.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 16:18:12
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Oct 5 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]523103[/snapback]
who is defending dougie idiot ? your personal attacks are getting more frequent, especially when you are cornered with the question of "what is the alternative?" . There is no answer to that one in your wee secret dossier that you keep is there. You are nothing more than a bitter twisted old man with too much time on your hands. Your main goal in life is to bring down dougie rae, why ? the politics of envy i reckon. As for John Boag, he was a rangers man through and through, the only link he had with morton is as a player, not a fan, but dont let that get in the way of your pointless little arguments. You have been asked on more than one occasion to bring something constructive to the table, but as always you have nothing to back your pathetic ramblings. So keep going, fill your boots with meaningless posts while the rest of us bring change with a positive attitude while you stew in your personal attacks from behind your keyboard. And as i have stated before i am no fan of dougie but if you think i am then thats cool with me, fud.

Not quite wishing me a slow and painful death!

So 'the rest of you are bringing change with your positive attitude'! The evidence of that is overwhelming. laugh.gif Do you have a list of your fellow dumbos?

The truth is Doc that you're not particularly bright. You DO strongly dislike legitimate criticism of Mr Rae.

I'm sure other posters will be asking why that is.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 16:19:56
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 5 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]523101[/snapback]
feel free to contact us at info@gmst.org.uk for any questions....

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mortonjag 2008-10-05 16:21:47
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 5 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]523110[/snapback]
I reckon it's going to be Derek Collins, and I am absolutely gutted at the prospect.

Is that just a suspicion?

It makes sense only in money terms and would be extremely short sighted IMO.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 16:27:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 5 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]522831[/snapback]
I don't wish to speak ill of a man of the cloth.

However, Reverend Dave hasn't really had a flash start to the season.

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Romans 8:31


What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?


Do you think Rev Dave's an impostor Newt? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 16:33:25
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 4 2008, 03:24 PM) [snapback]521938[/snapback]
No - it isn't ironic as you already commented on it. rolleyes.gif
I think you'll find it is most ironic coming from a poster who apears to swallow the Daily Mail for brunch and then proceed to regurgitate it over and over and over again.
How can I flog a dead horse when I make one post on that particular topic?
Your conceit is matched only by your inaccuracies.

You've ridden your hobby horse to death on your anti birching stance in the past. Your pronouncements on your 'knife crime rife scheme' have been repeatedly pointless, coming as they do from a mere child with no real life experience.

In reality SPARROT, Mortonjag is a relatively humble man-perhaps that's true of yourself too! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 16:40:33
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 5 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]523108[/snapback]
what was the name of that university again ?

apocAlypse, mate.

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apokochips?
mortonjag 2008-10-05 16:46:57
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 5 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]523114[/snapback]
It's just a suspicion.

I agree entirely, but I think the decision will be made rashly and with money in mind.

DDF does not like sacking managers, I think that's a given. When he does it's normally an emotional affair. Irons will go not because he deems the results unacceptable but because the fans' pressure will be too much. Paying off two members of staff whom he trusts will be seen as too much. So, out goes one, in comes the other - a "real Morton legend."

As I say, these are just suspicions. None of it is set in stone, to my knowledge at least.

It may well happen. I suppose it's even conceivable that DC could succeed where DI has failed.

I can't see that. A new broom is clearly required. If only Mr Rae would for the first time accept a truly experienced manager and allow him freedom to manage, this season is still salvagable. I'm pretty fed up with the constant put downs of our players' ability, though their commitment at present is questionable. A couple of good emergency loan signings, combined with true desire, and we could soon be climbing the league.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 16:50:50
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Oct 5 2008, 04:35 PM) [snapback]523117[/snapback]
Totally agree, so what's the answer to this particular problem?

Specifically which problem?

I understand that AD has already approached Mr Rae and that they were unable to come to an agreement. I believe AD has backed off and is presumably waiting in the wings. Is that contrary to your intelligence?
mortonjag 2008-10-05 17:01:07
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Oct 5 2008, 03:03 PM) [snapback]523079[/snapback]
Do you then agree that realistically Rae should stay until this alternative reveals itself? That may not be this year, or next year. I've said before that Rae's leadership of the club is very flawed but there simply can't be a demonstration to force him out until he can be replaced with somone better at his job.

I have said for several years that as Rae CANNOT step aside totally, he would gain much credibility by becoming Honorary Chairman, with TRUE delegation to a salaried 'main man', who, for want of a better term I've described as a 'Director of Football'.

As and when AD takes over, that-I'd assume, is EXACTLY what will happen.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 17:13:45
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Oct 5 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]523133[/snapback]
You understand!!! Sorry, you don't understand that's the problem. You think you know more than you actually do.
If you have evidence to the contrary let's hear it. Everytime your questioned about your sources or your solutions you do nothing but slag off whomever is asking the question. You use your supposed superior intelligence (not my opinion)
to take them to task for daring to question your wisdom. It's a trend that goes through all your posts.

And you talk about Douglas Rae's arrogance. Pot and kettle Doc, pot and kettle. Both you and Rae are tarred with the same arrogant brush.

I'm sorry Peter-may I call you Peter-Paul if you prefer-I thought you had sincerely asked me that question.

Not like old Jaggy boy to fall into another jealous weasel trap! unsure.gif

I don't 'think I know more than I do'. On the contrary I'm extremely careful always to qualify my statements on the basis that they are 'from information received'.

What you and the other not very bright 'smartass' weasels singularly fail to appreciate is that every time you make a Jag attack like that, twenty or thirty of my associates are laughing up their sleeves, as yet another foolish sprat dangles from the Jag's big rod. smile.gif



mortonjag 2008-10-05 17:35:27
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 5 2008, 05:19 PM) [snapback]523140[/snapback]
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Were you in Rouken Glen Park earlier?
mortonjag 2008-10-05 17:40:33
QUOTE(The Hustler @ Oct 5 2008, 05:32 PM) [snapback]523144[/snapback]
Quite frankly I think this thread is somewhat pointless. I believe if there was someone out there with the finances to purchase Morton at an acceptable price to Rae and who could demonstrate that he had Mortons interests at heart then Rae would sell. No doubt. However I dont think he would sell if he thought it was to a *careful, or I'll close down the Internet* clone. Maybe Donald is a prospective buyer but if so he seems to be taking his time.
Irons has been a truly disastrous appointment and Rae is responsible for that but until someone comes along with the dough to take over from Rae then we are stuck with him. Simple as that.

Why do you believe that?

'As long as there is breath in my body, Greenock Morton is not for sale'

'I have rejected several 'million pound' offers for the club'.

AD is undoubtedly taking his time. Why should he hurry when the asking price is dropping by the week?
mortonjag 2008-10-05 17:42:08
QUOTE(axeman @ Oct 5 2008, 05:38 PM) [snapback]523146[/snapback]
Well that was how it was reported at the time, check with the Tele if you don't believe me.

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mortonjag 2008-10-05 17:44:50
QUOTE(forza ton @ Oct 5 2008, 05:09 PM) [snapback]523137[/snapback]
one good thing about today was the hospice getting the £1 entry fee to the docks. must have made a fortune smile.gif

the boat is pish though. just looks like a big calmac boat

Are they still sponsoring a ferry good side?
mortonjag 2008-10-05 17:48:30
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 5 2008, 05:47 PM) [snapback]523153[/snapback]
A nice touch by the Gourock MSC for their patrons . Would be a nice gesture for the club to also do something.

Were you envisaging anything in particular?
mortonjag 2008-10-05 18:00:36
QUOTE(port-ton @ Oct 5 2008, 05:50 PM) [snapback]523158[/snapback]
He might be a joke of a manager, but he is not a joke of a man.

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mortonjag 2008-10-05 18:02:23
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 5 2008, 05:53 PM) [snapback]523162[/snapback]
I'm afraid not, old chap. Had to settle for Tollcross Park this afternoon. smile.gif

Didn't realise you were an Eastender!

There used to be a nursing home inside that park BTW!
mortonjag 2008-10-05 18:06:40
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Oct 5 2008, 06:04 PM) [snapback]523168[/snapback]
me and the boy will be there, brilliant gesture but it should be the club putting on free busses not a travel club, morton should take a leaf out of GMSTC book.

If I dare to comment I shall be attacked from all sides!

Oh-who gives a f*ck.

Rae is as tight as a badger's arse. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 18:26:09
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 5 2008, 06:20 PM) [snapback]523186[/snapback]
It's the end of the world man! This is no time for spelling lessons!!!!
(OK I was in Mr_thax's house and his mozilla doesn't have the spell check add-on that mines does wink.gif)

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mortonjag 2008-10-05 18:27:49
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 5 2008, 06:23 PM) [snapback]523188[/snapback]
I think this finally proves the point of it doesn't matter a jot of whether a manager is animated at the side of the park or if he stands against a wall with his arms folded.

Bring back Hal Stewart.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 18:40:50
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Oct 5 2008, 06:32 PM) [snapback]523196[/snapback]
sorry to break this to you mj but hal is dead, sorry you hadn't heard wink.gif

I want Hal! crying.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 18:44:18
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 5 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]523198[/snapback]
I only get the red line for spelling issues.

I lack the green line for grammar issues.

Shame too, that's my problem.

And you commended me earlier on how I can write naw bad tongue.gif

You must try harder-you will improve with effort unlike SPARROT who thinks he knows everything! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 18:47:44
QUOTE(moneton!!! @ Oct 5 2008, 06:32 PM) [snapback]523195[/snapback]
Quite enjoyed today. Went down to Inverkip in the morning and watched it pass then went over to the splash and got some pics. Was surprised how many people were down there, great weather helped right enough.

Pic I put together earlier:

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mortonjag 2008-10-06 06:42:26
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 5 2008, 06:12 PM) [snapback]523177[/snapback]
If that situation where to arise we would never have a credible, experienced manager through Cappielows doors for as long as he was floating around. IF he was to sell up i'd make him pay at the gate like the rest of us.

.....and make him show his bus pass as proof of age and identity-YES!!! bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-06 07:00:04
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Oct 5 2008, 07:36 PM) [snapback]523211[/snapback]
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When you go into that mode you start to sound like 'Ming the Merciless' (or some other panto villain) You are in other words becoming a caricature. Anyone who questions your omnipotence is a 'pathetic fool' or an agent of DDFR/ up his erse/sycophants. Not sure that this helps your campaign.
You apparent hatred of ddfr is a drawback too - makes me think that you have personal issues and that Morton's current plight is a convenient vehicle for your 'revenge'
Very few of us can be happy with the start to the season but to equate this to Dougy 'destroying' our club is ridiculous.
I realise that I am now too, up ddfr's erse - despite the fact that I've never met the man.
and btw , one of your favourite insults is 'sycophant' which implies that we have something to gain from the situation blink.gif What, exactly?
I've said before that I fully respect your right to question, and you make a number of valid points , but I tend to think that you are 'wallowing' in our misfortunes. You are enjoying it just too much.

Rae IS destroying the Club Cloth Ears, and yes-I f*ckin' HATE him for destroying OUR club, and I f*ckin' hate the fools who refuse to see it, and whether you think I have 'issues' or not is of absolutely no consequence to me. Rae is a self obsessed tyrant, who employs classically dictatorial methods to get his way. He's getting his way-nobody else but Rae is to blame for the current mess.

If you can't see that, I won't call you a sycophant-I'll just say it's rather sad for an obviously intelligent fellow.

QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Oct 5 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]523234[/snapback]
Is he "short selling" the club by giving his advice designed to see us relegated then buy us for a song? laugh.gif


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QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Oct 5 2008, 08:26 PM) [snapback]523235[/snapback]
You can call me Mary if you want, I don't care what you call me. Your personal jibes still don't hide the fact that you know only as much as the ordinary Morton supporter. Ah , so it all comes from "information received" . You don't attend the White Rose Fellowship in the Gamble Halls on Thursday night by any chance. laugh.gif

And can you tell me, of your "twenty or thirty" associates on here, how many are still wearing short trouser.
And when did "twenty or thirty" people agreeing to the same rumour somehow make it true.

As for "not very bright smartass weasel" For a supposed intelligent man you have some very serious issues. ohmy.gif
Difference between you and I is that I know some of your "associates" .


You are a fool-pure and simple. I have DOCUMENTED evidence of Rae's incompetence, in addition to other information from SEVERAL RELIABLE SOURCES WHO POST HERE. We regularly exchange p.m.'s.

As I said Peter, you are simply making a complete arse of yourself arguing that black is white. Why don't you get some photographs of Jaggy shagging a sheep. You'd stand more chance of a 'put down'. bag.gif
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Oct 5 2008, 09:22 PM) [snapback]523272[/snapback]
I think the biggest problem with the Trust is that not enough Morton supporters are members. If they truly represented the fans Dougie would find it difficult to ignore them as he no doubt does, just the same way he ignores everybody else. Why should the Trust be any different.

That's an extremely dangerous thing to do. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-06 07:13:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 6 2008, 03:52 AM) [snapback]523361[/snapback]
Was I a wee bit early with this thread ?

Or perhaps I was too late ?

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The timing of your thread matters not a jot or a tittle Mr Newall McArthur Newton, as I don't subscribe to second rate journalism, let alone fan's forum rags, though I'm led to understand from having conversed yesterday evening with another loyal Morton supporter on the telephone, and in confidence, that there was a letter, indeed two letters in that local paper on Friday, in which somebody mentioned the well known fact that I saved Greenock Morton seven years ago, which goes to show beyond the remotest fear of contradiction that I am still held in high esteem in Inverclyde, and probably further afield in those days of pocket calculators and such high technology.

Your Aye,

Douglas
mortonjag 2008-10-06 07:30:26
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Oct 6 2008, 03:42 AM) [snapback]523357[/snapback]
Gone tomorrow, McManus caretaker...

Sounds about right EENY!
mortonjag 2008-10-06 07:37:34
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Oct 5 2008, 08:05 PM) [snapback]523227[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Oct 5 2008, 11:51 AM) [snapback]522899[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Sad but true

Not exactly - The Shed in Shawlands is their favoured hang out most Saturdays these days.

Such a famous person just round the corner from the boys on a Saturday night, and they don't know! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Oct 5 2008, 08:37 PM) [snapback]523241[/snapback]
Clubs are not allowed loan signings when they already have players out on loan. We have 3 players out on loan and they would have to be recalled first before the SFA/SFL would approve any incoming loans. tongue.gif

Anus, I merely made the point that a couple of good loan signings could make a huge difference. Irons has left us without options.

QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 5 2008, 08:41 PM) [snapback]523244[/snapback]
MJ, would a "truly experienced manager" want the job of trying to avoid relegation with all of the handicaps that DDFR adds to the manager's role ?

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Undoubtedly-NO.

QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Oct 5 2008, 11:38 PM) [snapback]523339[/snapback]
We need an experienced man manager - someone with a track record of getting the best out of his players. Allan Moore maybe? Maitland? I think the new manager has to be well into his forties - old enough not to be one of the boys and still young enough to be vigorous about the job. He also needs to be tactically sound and be able to communicate what he wants to the players.

Sandy Clark could be a shout. Jimmy Nicholl would also be good.

One things for sure, we are not getting the best from our players most of whom could play for other first division clubs no problem.

The only positive thing for us at the moment is that Clyde are as bad as us and the Airdrie bubble appears to have burst. They are both more catchable if we turn things round and the improvement has to come very soon.

All good points-the missing link-get Rae to f*ck and only let him attend matches under escort.

I'm NOT joking BTW. mad.gif

QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Oct 6 2008, 03:52 AM) [snapback]523360[/snapback]
John Robertson, with McManus in the interim.

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mortonjag 2008-10-06 07:40:59
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 6 2008, 02:56 AM) [snapback]523354[/snapback]
If we dig him up can we put someone in his place wink.gif

Had you somebody in mind? laugh.gif

QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Oct 6 2008, 03:48 AM) [snapback]523359[/snapback]
McInally by a mile. He was a bad manager, yes, but also commanded a degree if respect from his players, as well as having obvious qualities as a coach. On top of that, his team was always ridiculosuly fit, had a bit of fight in them, and closed down well.
Irons simply has nothing to offer, in any way. The players don't like him, he can't coach, he can't motivate. There is nothing you can actually offer in his defence.

Interesting points. In terms of 'staying power' JM seems to have had it by a country mile!


TTGI!
mortonjag 2008-10-06 07:43:39 Next for shaving shafting!


I give you the most unproductive and overrated player at Cappielow


JIMBO! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-06 07:46:02
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Oct 6 2008, 07:42 AM) [snapback]523372[/snapback]
Only when it's been swimming in the Labial Ocean. Otherwise it has a strangely attractive whiff of Imperial Leather talc. Or not. Depending on pints taken.

TonInDublin

You put Imperial Leather talc on your dick!

I've always used cheap margarine myself.
mortonjag 2008-10-06 07:49:45 Morton should be upsides Falkirk, Kilmarnock, Midden, Well, etc.

Hamilton (c*nts) are a great example of what can be achieved when the Board has half a brain and a wee bit of vision.

Please get Rae to f*ck .
mortonjag 2008-10-06 07:53:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 6 2008, 03:59 AM) [snapback]523362[/snapback]
If a few hundred of us invested in the Trust, would it have enough to do a deal with Sugar Rae so that he could:

1. relinqish control ASAP
2. sell down his holding to the Trust over 3 or 4 years
3. reduce our chances of being relegated

for example 500 blokes @ 1,000 pounds = 500,000 pounds

200 blokes @ 2,000 pounds = 400,000 pounds

Surely amounts like that would be sufficient deposit to enable DDFR to abdicate with dignity ?

Bryan, could you answer this please ?

Or do we need to join the Trust first ?

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I've a strange feeling that Mr Rae may have passed on before you get an acceptable answer.
mortonjag 2008-10-06 08:04:41 Irons should be off shortly, making JM's tenure look like something of a marathon.

Scottish football knows about Rae-he's been unable to ban mouths and ears!!! laugh.gif

The next mug who steps up will be heralded as yet another AMAZING signing by the old eejit.

How resistant will he be to the effects of drinking from the poisoned chalice?

Will he outlast Rae-who knows, though it looks like the latter's good for another ten years if not a hundred!

Mortonjag's prediction-anybody with experience AND baws will be back oot the door within six months.

Very, very sad indeed. mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-14 13:03:20
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 14 2008, 12:59 PM) [snapback]527315[/snapback]
Why has Mortonjag went to the trouble of creating three aliases?

Is somebody impersonating Mortonjag my child? mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-14 21:21:05
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 12 2008, 09:39 AM) [snapback]525775[/snapback]
If you had to chose a porn star to f*ck, out of them all, who would it be?
I'll go first.

Brandy Taylore

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mortonjag 2008-10-14 21:23:41
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 14 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]527473[/snapback]
What blink.gif they go up in the world?

Indeed-bacteria in a toilet bowl are a rare finding those days-unlike a feegie prawn sandwich.
mortonjag 2008-10-14 21:24:36 laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-15 11:16:08
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Oct 15 2008, 08:22 AM) [snapback]527612[/snapback]
That's your department. happy.gif

Nope-ophthalmology! shutup.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-15 11:20:21
QUOTE(dazed @ Oct 15 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]527623[/snapback]
good to see you back MJ! smile.gif

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Mortonjag has returned among the good guys. The rest are all wankpots anyway!

Once upon a time there was a little boy called Douglas-his real name was Duncan, but his parents decided to call him Douglas. Douglas was an ambitious little chap................ laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-16 09:58:22
QUOTE(Jackie @ Oct 15 2008, 03:52 PM) [snapback]527843[/snapback]
Was he banned?

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Douglas's parents discovered to their cost that Douglas was very fond of sweeties. He was growing so fat that they banned him from going to watch his local football team which he'd been supporting through thick and thin from the moment of conception.................
mortonjag 2008-10-16 19:26:28
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Oct 16 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]528395[/snapback]
Welcome back MJ! rolleyes.gif

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....but Douglas was not one to be defeated easily. He spoke to his dear old friend and fellow Morton Supporter Arthur de Montford, who agreed to punt him over the turnstyles at the next game............
mortonjag 2008-10-16 19:28:20
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Oct 16 2008, 06:59 PM) [snapback]528399[/snapback]
Can't believe theres been no pictures of Lolly Badc*** yet! laugh.gif

Perhaps they're not sfw! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-17 10:21:03
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Oct 17 2008, 09:43 AM) [snapback]528587[/snapback]
Willowman is built for speed you know. ph34r.gif

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Always had him down as a voddy man.
mortonjag 2008-10-17 18:18:46
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 17 2008, 02:38 PM) [snapback]528785[/snapback]
no rolleyes.gif

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........Arthur obligingly punted the youthful Douglas over as promised, saying to the honest turnstyle operator with a wink-'I've brought a friend-are you up for it'.........
mortonjag 2008-10-18 09:20:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 17 2008, 10:28 PM) [snapback]529097[/snapback]
I wouldn't.

However going out of his way to go to Oz, to come back over and be introduced to me in the pub in a time before Mortonjag even posted here would be downright impressive!

Millport and Oz are indeed poles apart!

I'm just back into the country briefly for this afternoon's game.

I'd imagine the old fud will finally accept my offer after the defeat.


AD
mortonjag 2008-10-18 09:47:17
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Oct 18 2008, 09:21 AM) [snapback]529178[/snapback]
Oh Christ, the humanity - won't somebody think of the children.

I have noo got a horrible picture in my head that is guaranteed to haunt me all day.

Cheers MrsT.

TonInDublin

ps is it just me or would Sinitta defo get it ?

WTF is this sinitta-does it come at Christmas?
mortonjag 2008-10-19 20:20:52
QUOTE(Jackie @ Oct 19 2008, 06:59 PM) [snapback]530085[/snapback]
So he wasn't then?

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Douglas was fascinated by football-it gave him a feeling of power rare in a child of his years. Douglas vowed to Arthur that one day he would have a football club of his very own.........
mortonjag 2008-10-20 06:52:29
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Oct 19 2008, 09:12 PM) [snapback]530120[/snapback]
POOFS

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AWOOGA

Hosey Quitongo?
mortonjag 2008-10-20 09:01:45
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Oct 20 2008, 08:51 AM) [snapback]530175[/snapback]
That reminds me, i need to get sausages today. ph34r.gif ohmy.gif

Slice?
mortonjag 2008-10-20 09:18:26
QUOTE(Lord Haw haw @ Oct 20 2008, 09:01 AM) [snapback]530177[/snapback]
The best political leader the world has ever seen has to have been Margaret Thatchet. She knew how to rule this great nation. I doubt very much if the SNP would have stood a chance if she was stilll in power today.

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No contest IMO! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-20 13:08:43
QUOTE(Edinton @ Oct 20 2008, 12:45 PM) [snapback]530245[/snapback]
Hence why he's been chosen! laugh.gif

I love work nights out because of all the shenanigans that go on. When at Uni I went on placement for a year, and managed to pull the Director's PA a couple of times - despite the fact she was in a relationship and she was appalled at the thought of anyone in the office finding out, it was a small company after all.

She had a leaving night about 6 months into my time there and a few of us ended up back at the Director's flat for a further bevvy. It wasn't a big flat but her and I snuck into the bathroom at one point and I attempted to give her a farewell present...we'd only been in for a couple of minutes when someone banged on the door needing the toilet (as you'd expect).

She panicked, and was desperate not to be found in a toilet with me on her leaving night (fair enough) so we took the only step necessary - I hid in the bathroom cupboard. I don't know what we would have done without it, but this bathroom had a full-length cupboard in it with enough room to hide in - while the rest of the party-goers came in and used the facilities. I've never been so still in my life as the Director and head lawyer, amongst others, came in a used the facilities. 15 minutes I was stuck in there!

We're not really in touch anymore.

Closet pouffe? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-20 16:17:54
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 20 2008, 03:24 PM) [snapback]530330[/snapback]
How is it that with the straightest possible story you highlight one bit as being a wee bit pouffe related?

I reckon you have some issues to work through good Doctor...and if not then maybe some rent boys happy.gif

Don't be a silly boy. I was merely enquiring as to the seating arrangements in the said hiding place. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-22 08:37:09
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Oct 21 2008, 09:02 AM) [snapback]530607[/snapback]
Shame on you Puggsy! MrsT doesn't have an ocean...just a wee man in a boat!

Wasted on him obviously. Not clitorate I guess.
mortonjag 2008-10-22 08:41:39
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Oct 21 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]530756[/snapback]
then they made beautiful man love all night long, creating many a stramash to millions with their nocturnal liaisons ddon the battery park.

The young Douglas had never felt a warm willy in his rectum before. 'Arthur', he squeaked in his breaking teenage voice, 'you've made me come to a conclusion..............
mortonjag 2008-12-04 13:28:21
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Nov 30 2008, 12:07 AM) [snapback]544437[/snapback]
...... Discuss

As epitomised by Ton fans! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-05 19:28:48 all of you!
mortonjag 2008-12-05 19:32:32
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Dec 5 2008, 07:30 PM) [snapback]546497[/snapback]
Hi, Mouton, togib, plookheid, erm... I forgot the other one(s).

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mortonjag 2008-12-05 19:34:20 who is this mouton fella?
mortonjag 2008-12-05 19:41:50
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Dec 5 2008, 07:37 PM) [snapback]546505[/snapback]
I see your back...as yourself. rolleyes.gif Were you finding it hard to keep up with your aliases? unsure.gif Not seen Big Blue Jugs for a while? unsure.gif

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mortonjag 2008-12-05 19:50:37 How do you tell a snowman from a snow woman? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-05 19:52:32
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Dec 5 2008, 06:20 PM) [snapback]546470[/snapback]
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Mr Rae did say in his programme notes last Tuesday night that he would be happy to address fans with a grievance personally, rather than them venting any frustrations on this messageboard. It's there in print!

Perhaps, instead of just bearing a grudge over something which happened two years ago now, and more importantly, which nobody seems to have aggressively pursued, it would be a little more productive if somebody spoke to someone at Cappielow. After all, we all know that the Club seems to take a vow of silence in it's communications when it suits.

Otherwise the ARTC are going to be left out in the cold if this is still going on in a few years time and Morton are maybe in the SPL!

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mortonjag 2008-12-05 20:50:20
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Dec 5 2008, 08:10 PM) [snapback]546516[/snapback]
Snowballs

TonInDublin

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mortonjag 2008-12-06 08:13:34
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 5 2008, 09:46 PM) [snapback]546545[/snapback]
Do you remember Ben Turpin from the silent movies? There was a classic scene with Stan Laurel and Turpin. Turpin was at his skelly eyed best and Stan didn't know which eye to focus on. Comedy at its best I reckon; laughing at the affliction or person wasn't intended, just the situation. Just like you describe.



I loved those old actors and actresses-who was that dame with the grey skelly eyes?
mortonjag 2008-12-07 07:52:21 mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

Thoroughly deserved punishment:

Strip the rookies naked in Clyde Square for a public pink botty skelping with a rubber penis.

All the arseholes who have agreed with their stupidity should be forced to do a year's community service mending broken clothes poles for old ladies.

Effin Nazis if you ask me.
mortonjag 2008-12-07 15:04:21
QUOTE(Magic Mathie @ Nov 28 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]543858[/snapback]
Can anyone from the trust help me with this? I've not had any confirmation that my original query has been sorted.

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mortonjag 2008-12-07 15:11:29
QUOTE(grnklad2006ton @ Dec 7 2008, 03:00 PM) [snapback]547167[/snapback]
Cheers for all your reply's folks. As someone said i suppose its just a slap on the wrist and i will pay it without any carry on. It was just the way it all happend and the way they were treating me, as if i was going to drive my car into glasgow air port or something.

Someone said something on boy racers, well i am only 28 so i could have been tarred by the same brush but i am in no means a boy racer ohmy.gif they are all about 18 and down the esplanade. My car is 15 months old and a 07 plate, the fog bulbs are turned on when you touch the end of the indicator its touch sensitive. A pain in the erse if you ask me.

But yes i should have noticed by reading my dash and saw that they were on yes. Thanks anyway for your reply's. Ps fellow ton fans watch your sell out there in your car over the xmas period, that we copper said they are pulling anyone on anything over the festive period....... And that was his exact words ohmy.gif ohmy.gif .

Why is there always a nice copper and a bad ass copper mad.gif .........

That's a myth. The polis are all pricks.
mortonjag 2008-12-07 15:19:44 A healthy Old Firm is a contradiction in terms. Scottish football would find its own level without those two monopolistic bigot traps who desperately want into the Premiership anyway.

Good effin riddance!
mortonjag 2008-12-08 06:45:46
QUOTE(Deego @ Dec 6 2008, 10:03 PM) [snapback]547017[/snapback]
I'ts a f***ing gift mty man. I'd love to f*** a pensiorner just to tell my pals.

You have a short memory mon petit choux choux! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-09 06:13:53 Plus ca change gentlemen!

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mortonjag 2008-12-09 06:16:24 Here we go round the mulberry bush.
mortonjag 2008-12-09 07:44:10
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 6 2008, 10:00 PM) [snapback]547015[/snapback]
My wife is 60 on Monday. Is having to sleep with a pensioner grounds for a divorce?

False imprisonment should give you a good shout! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-10 06:47:53 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Does anybody know who Spot Ton is?

I doubt if Spot Ton is willing to out himself, yet he's very quick to attack Andy M and ANYBODY who dares to criticise his beloved Trust.

If he is not a Trust Committee member (or ex Trust Committee member) he is very closely related to one of those remote and unapproachable creatures.

Mortonjag grew weary of attacking an unarmed man. The Trust is an anachronistic waste of space. Mr Rae pisses on the Trust from an almighty height and they soak it up like blotting paper! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-10 06:52:39
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Dec 9 2008, 06:47 PM) [snapback]548088[/snapback]
Tonight after two week sof calling and hanging on for approx 15mins each time I got through to a CSA.

I then had to go through my spiel again as she didn't have notes on my previous call mad.gif

Well tonight I demanded the meter be removed with no further excuses as I had been putting all my leccy off as an experiment so I had more examples. The latest was from midnight last night till 6pm tonight, taking off the cash it used for my shower this morning, it used a further 50p with every single piece of electrical item, not just switched off but unplugged as well !!!

She then asked me to hold on and low and behold after several minutes I was cut-off !!!

I should just go and visit these barstewards in Cathcart or Bellshill, with my meter under my arm !!!

So does anyone know anyone from Scottish Power who could maybe point me in the right direction or that could check my meter ??

This is now beyond a joke.

I advise all SP Key Meter users to try out similar experiments to me to see if they're unsuspectingly being charged for juice they ain't using.


Pm me Jim-I can probably get you some help.
mortonjag 2008-12-10 11:19:27
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Dec 9 2008, 09:35 AM) [snapback]547896[/snapback]
Driving around all day as I do I have to say it's just a minor irritation when someone has left their fog lights on, no real harm done. Laws like this should be removed from the statute book to prevent little nazis like this getting their jollies. There's 1001 other real crimes that could use the bizzies time more productively. Wankers.

A perfect summation of the situation. It's ludicrous-they will only give a warning for a defective bulb because it could have blown a moment before they arrived on the scene, and they'd throw it out of court, so there are 'one eyed monsters ten a penny on our roads-who know perfectly well they are 'at it' and who are a FAR bigger danger than somebody who makes himself MORE visible with foglights on, and I'd like to add that anybody who claims to be 'blinded' by the rear fog light in front is driving too damned close-something else the Polis NEVER do anything about, and my all time favourite is those who have no lane discipline and never use mirrors-Christ knows how many accidents they cause with folk taking evasive action as the merrily plod on oblivious. Do the Fuzz EVER crack down on that-NO.

In addition to what 44TT says there are hundreds of more serious motoring offences before we even get to crimes, but Strathclyde's Finest will always go for the easy touch.

mortonjag 2008-12-11 07:10:14
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 10 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]548676[/snapback]
I agree totally that the trust MUST get more bodies in the organisation but I think it would be a mistake for it to start claiming to be everyone's voice.

But this bunker mentality has gone on for too long. In a way I'm glad that it looks like we're losing our seat on the board because it means that the current approach has been shown to be non-working. It's time for a fresh start, hopefully a more open start, and without having to worry about the image of the club board we can start asking some tougher questions and getting more done. Hopefully.

No chance until Shoogly snuffs it.
mortonjag 2008-12-11 07:14:10 Keech Bum and Toly Fart
Wandered doon the Battery Park
Keech Bum couldnae swim
So two wee Tolies pushed him in.

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Memories of a childhood poem-anybody else heard it or similar?
mortonjag 2008-12-12 11:03:17 The real evil in this country exists at the top end of the income bracket. I do believe in weeding out 'benefit scroungers' but the concept of 'taxing the rich till they squeal' has an eternal appeal! shutup.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-12 11:05:32 I'm really looking forward to winning the third division championship the year the new stand is completed.
mortonjag 2008-12-12 13:18:16
QUOTE(scotia morton @ Dec 12 2008, 12:20 PM) [snapback]549339[/snapback]
NEGATIVE and Childish reply! Was good not having to see your drivel posts on here every day! Why did you have to spoil it?

Time will tell Pops! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-12 13:23:08
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Dec 12 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]549337[/snapback]
Two apologies:
Firstly: I had only 15 mins last night to grab a coffee and reply before leaving the house, I did not give your post aa proper reply.

Secondly, I did misquote you, you did say retarded argument, mea culpa.

To the rest of the post.
We come to the sticking point here. Genesis tells me that God created the Heavens and Earth. I take this to be so.
The heavens and earth came about as a result of the big bang. Before the big bang cosmologis agree that space and time did not exist. Thus God existed before time and thus outwith time.
Fair play about 150, you're not happy ,let me go back to it in my next post.
I said I favoured a decentralised system without central state control along the lines of the Swedish model. The use of the word mandate can and often does imply compulsion. A clear muddying of the waters. Use of the phrase " allow, where the parents wish it, the teaching of religion in schools", would have accurately depicted my position, mandate was a poor word choice.


No problem with that Mr Bam, but I've always wondered who made God.
mortonjag 2008-12-12 15:22:57
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Dec 11 2008, 09:28 PM) [snapback]549208[/snapback]
Whilst I agree, I think Irons might go for physical presence on Saturday.

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Instead of his usual twinkle toed poison dwarves?

Our good run is set to end because we are not ultimately capable of scoring many goals and have as much flexibility as Rigor Mortis! Tomorrow night it'll be 'we did our best but the better side prevailed'. biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-12 15:26:05
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 12 2008, 03:17 PM) [snapback]549431[/snapback]
Like how people are saying this is the club guaranteeing to stay at Scappa for many years to come.

We are buying a stand - on the cheap - from a team who put it in not too long ago and are now moving to a new gruond.

...so don't get ahead of oneselves.

Although it is promising.

I hope you are not suggesting that


MR RAE IS A CHEAPSKATE



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mortonjag 2008-12-12 15:42:46
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Dec 12 2008, 01:31 PM) [snapback]549375[/snapback]
Aww naw, you're having a laugh are you not.



Not at all. I've always understood man's inability to cope with the concept of infinity and puerile need to have a 'starter' for everything, and I can buy into the concept of 'God' as a segment of an eternal wheel.

If, however, the said old bearded gent is to be perceived as a 'creator' I believe he can only be so in terms of creation of the part of the cosmos we understand, and I therefore pose the question-'Who created him'.

Nothing comes from nothing, nothing ever could
So somewhere in my youth or childhood, I must have done something good
.


I've also found it incredible that learned men can accept a 'big bang' theory. Why not a gentle rustle? I presume much energy is assumed to have been required. Where did that energy come from? huh.gif


mortonjag 2008-12-12 19:06:38
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 12 2008, 05:41 PM) [snapback]549502[/snapback]
In this case I would go with extremely prudent and smart

cheapskate? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-12 19:08:14
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Dec 12 2008, 06:52 PM) [snapback]549516[/snapback]
removed by who and why?

Procurator fiscal because the matter is sub judice? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-12 19:11:13
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Dec 12 2008, 05:48 PM) [snapback]549504[/snapback]
I agree, and it's specifically for that reason that I make a point of making a c*** of myself all year round.

What a feeble excuse! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-12 19:20:52
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Dec 2 2008, 09:22 PM) [snapback]545389[/snapback]
I have never cheated on anyone I've been with and never would however like several Msg Boarders I've been in relationships with women that are attached.

Not sure why as I never deliberately looked for an attached female, maybe it was a comfort factor knowing that the only way you could be hurt again was if you fell for a women who'd most likely stay with her man when the push comes to the shove so you knew not to let your emotions overrule you.

Double standards here as I would hate to be cheated on and to the best of my knowledge haven't been.

That's just to stop them floating oot the windae Willy Man! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-12 19:53:46 Live is Life


Shoogly and the May Hughes Wobblers.
mortonjag 2008-12-12 21:33:44
QUOTE(MrX @ Dec 12 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]549594[/snapback]
Good to see you back on the board with your usual optimistic perspective.


Then I shall be optimistic.

St Johnstone 0 Morton 1


LEAFY


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mortonjag 2008-12-13 08:38:45
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Dec 12 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]549600[/snapback]
Not to mention libelious. sad.gif

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mortonjag 2008-12-13 08:40:17
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Dec 13 2008, 08:29 AM) [snapback]549721[/snapback]
Pardon my ignorance, but have you told the club about your grievances yet?

Some things are beyond pardon. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-13 08:43:58
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 13 2008, 08:07 AM) [snapback]549717[/snapback]
Have to disagree. Seating the away fans in there will increase the atmosphere, in fact we may have a return to the good old days of the shed belting out songs as we will finally have an away fan base we can hear. The acoustics should be good.

I am quite happy this is in the away end, cheap and cheerful for away fans. I think a purpose built stand at the WDE would be a gamble that would not be worth taking.
Get a small 1k seater in the Sinclair St end as a family stand. Altough I am loathed to say, seat the Cooshed and that is us well on the way to being SPL compliant, at least with ground structure if not with undersoil heating.

The bottom line is we remain at Cappielow and retain the atmosphere, unlike our rivals up the road leaving their atmospheric ground for a ground where the fans will have no central point like they had a Love St to create atmosphere and combined with the lego layout of the new St.Mirren Park which will be woeful for acoustics I know what my preference is.

With league reconstruction high on the agenda at the moment we need to try and be ready for any changes.


Agreed. I am extremely apprehensive, however, about the ultimate cost of this 'mix and match' project. Hopefully all will go according to plan, and by the time it's built the stench of skunk will have dissipated.

You pay your money and you take your chance at car boot sales.
mortonjag 2008-12-13 08:46:23
QUOTE(se65an @ Dec 12 2008, 08:52 PM) [snapback]549595[/snapback]
Selling this due to new car coming next week.

Porsche 911, 08reg, 2 Doors, Manual, Cabriolet, Petrol, 500 miles, Midnight Blue, 19" Carrera S II Alloys,Extended navigation module,Telephone module for PCM,Rear Park assist,BOSE sound,FSH, 1 owner.

Quick sale needed, £1500.
PM me if interested. I can send photo's etc. Only genuine buyers, no tele-sales, no time wasters.

Dinky or Matchbox?
mortonjag 2008-12-13 10:37:34 It would be a wonderful world if the Polis got it right every time. They don't because they are only human like the rest of us. Mind you they seem to have made a huge c*** up here. This guy has been shown without shadow of doubt to have been a latter day Jesus Christ meekly going about doing miracles. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-13 10:57:54 Which forum member would you like to shag and why?

I'd go for my old friend beermonkey-it's well known that dimensionally the penis is inversely proportional to the brain. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-13 11:47:48
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Dec 13 2008, 11:22 AM) [snapback]549772[/snapback]
No, he was an electrician going to help someone who had requested assistance with a problem.
A common man going about his business. No miracles. No latter day Jesus.

Just like you and me really.

TonInDublin

So the cops shot the wrong bloke and electricians sometimes end up electrocuting their customers. Sh*t happens TiD.

How about spinning it that the cops were ordinary blokes (just like you and me), trying to protect the public from potential terrorist threat and it all went sadly wrong? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-13 11:49:31
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 13 2008, 11:44 AM) [snapback]549787[/snapback]
People who are scared of tubular fruits like the banana and the cucumber have deep-engrained psychological issues, which may or may not include habitual sodomy.

ipse dixit.
mortonjag 2008-12-13 12:01:55
QUOTE(mortonfan @ Dec 13 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]549765[/snapback]
Grady's contract is nearly up for the time beening, will he stay?... or would you like a new younger face in??

I Personaly would love him to stay because he has lifted the teams morale since he came to morton and maby even become a coach at cappilow for the -19's and first team one day.

Views welcome

I sincerely believe that had Grady not arrived exactly when he did, Irons would be gone by now. Looking at the big picture, what seems good in the short term may prove otherwise in the fullness of time.
mortonjag 2008-12-13 12:12:07
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Dec 13 2008, 12:03 PM) [snapback]549798[/snapback]
Electricians don't electrocute their customers - don't be so daft.

And IF they did, they don't do it armed with a pile of information suggesting that what they are about to do is completely wrong, and after numerous, indeed countless, attempts over the preceding two days to avoid electrocuting them at all.

If it was just something that went sadly wrong I'd buy that in a heartbeat. Indeed, if it had happened the way they originally lied about it (shady character, vaulted the ticket barriers, ran from police, wires everywhere, tried to wrestle with police etc) then I'd have every sympathy for the police who were forced to make that tough decision.

But thats not the way it happened, they lied on the day, they lied subsequently and they knew they suspected from at least 24 hours before this incident that they had the wrong guy.

So as I said, if half their lies were true, I'd buy the sympathy vote.

But they ain't and I don't. Eight dum dum bullets to the brain of an unarmed innocent man, who was obeying police orders at the time tells its own story.As does their subsequent lies.

TonInDublin



There are two sides to every story except this one then! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-13 12:13:26
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Dec 13 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]549799[/snapback]
What away fans? Apart from Thistle, nobody brings more than 250-300 to Cappielow these days, including 'big' teams like Dundee, St Johnstone and Dunfermline.

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Are we not going to be in the SPL within one or two seasons? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-13 12:37:51
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Dec 13 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]549803[/snapback]
No, there are two sides to this one as well. One of them is the victim's, the other is the police and authorities.
Only one of them has had any sense of consistency since the start. Only one of them has been riddled with lies since the start. And now we know the truth of both sides. But for sure there are two sides to the story.

No one suggested otherwise.

TonInDublin

ps I didn't even bring up the fact that the Met took a blood sample from the victim after his death having leaked a story to the press that he was a suspect in a rape case - which made headline news and drew attention away from the police exactly as they hoped - they weren't just as quick to report that of course there was no match to any crime.

pps just to put right both sides of that story



The cops made a massive c*ck up in trying to cover up their original massive c*ck up. They got it badly wrong twice.

That does NOT alter the fact that it WAS a c*ck up-made in very extreme circumstances. Had they got it wrong the other way and countless innocents slaughtered I honestly don't think you'd be any happier.
mortonjag 2008-12-14 08:21:37 I'm afraid I see this differently from the previous posters-though I agree with the content of their posts.

David Irons is one of the most negative and defence minded managers we've ever had. In that respect things have come good for him-our defence and midfield are looking very tight (with the exception of our so called right back who should be replaced pronto) but we are hopeless in attack. That is quite simply down to Mr Irons' selection of squad.

The result is that we've been conned into getting excited by displays of defensive and midfield resilience because there is nothing else to excite us.

Don't let's get carried away with yesterday's victory-oops-I nearly forgot we blew it again! rolleyes.gif

Attack is the most effective (and attractive) form of defence.
mortonjag 2008-12-14 08:51:38 Brian turned 21 a few weeks back. He was sent to E.Stirling to gain first team experience and appears to have come on in leaps and bounds.

Those who are still writing him off clearly failed to see his ability. I remember his first half cup performance against Gretna at Palmerston as one example of his tenacity and versatility, and he DOES know the route to goal. For those of us old enough to remember, Joe Jordan was actually less affective than Brian at the point of his departure from Cappielow.
mortonjag 2008-12-14 09:08:00 Here's a serious question.

We play away from home against the league leaders, and Mr Irons has already decided he'll try to nullify them and hopefully grab a lucky winner.

We have on the bench a player who is acknowledged to hit one of the best dead balls in our division, and who has started at right back for previous clubs.

He sits on the bench for 90 minutes while faithful Rae servant DM makes a complete arse of himself, and the few corners and set pieces we have are frittered away.

My question.

Is this what Mr Irons wants, and if so WHY? ph34r.gif

Oh-and another serious question. laugh.gif

Superkev got booked and faded early in the second half. Why not give LEAFY a run on the right-it might have added a semblance of attack to the usual 'haud on for a draw' Irons mentality!!! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-15 07:17:18
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 14 2008, 07:15 PM) [snapback]550404[/snapback]
Not at all. I like nothing better than for us to nick a goal and watch the opposition fling long ball after long ball for Shimmin and Greacen to mop up, ala Dunfermline. They might as well put the whistling song for the Harlem Globetrotters over the tannoy to add to the effect.



Unusually, we actually played some very fast and attractive 'one touch' attacking football at Dunfermline and took the game to them. That caught them on the hop, and they never got out of the rut.
There is no way you could align that with Saturday's 'dig in and cross fingers' approach, which is the hallmark of Irons' tactics away from home.
mortonjag 2008-12-15 07:26:55 There's nothing mysterious about it-the nearer it gets to full time the less threat we pose the opposition as DI commands the boys to play deeper and deeper and prays to more Gods than the warts on Shoogly's bum.

The result-other managers tell their boys to go for broke and as often as not it pays off.
mortonjag 2008-12-15 07:36:24
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Dec 14 2008, 10:29 AM) [snapback]550234[/snapback]
The topic was closed by me.

On Friday myself and Boozie were given a few additional powers around closing topics if wwe needed to or moving them from forum to forum so they end up in the right place etc.

Whilst investigating what these new powers involved I made an arse of myself and pressed a wrong button.

A button it seems, that I cannot unpress.

So the short answer is that I am a fud.

On the upside I'll not be pressing any more buttons so normal service is restored.

It wasn't closed due to content or anything, just down to me being a computer illiterate fanny - which is strangely ironic given my job !!!!

TonInDublin

Just as well you're not a barmaid or you'd end up pulling the wrong kn*b and getting Stout.
mortonjag 2008-12-15 07:46:30
QUOTE(togib @ Dec 14 2008, 04:35 PM) [snapback]550342[/snapback]
the polis have just released a news update
they admit that they got the wrong guy

it was his brother they were after
dennis
de
menezes

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I was just having a wee laugh there when somebody told me that a drunk hit and run driver has just mown down and killed Minnie The Minx.


I DO hope there's a huge public outcry and millions of pounds are spent in an attempt to nail the culprit. Minnie was a well respected British citizen who featured frequently in the newspapers. She will be sadly missed.

Our thoughts are with the Minxes at this sad time.
mortonjag 2008-12-15 09:09:50
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Dec 15 2008, 08:46 AM) [snapback]550476[/snapback]
Dear Dr Jag,
This morning I woke up with quite a swollen Uvulva, probably linked to a mild cold I've got.
The wife said I was snoring like a Rhino last night, I'm unsure how many Rhinos she's slept with!
Have you any advice on what I can take to ease this?
I'm a smoker and a bit of a chanter!
Thanks in advance.
InverAlly

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Uvula Ally! Uvulva is a sheep's fud. laugh.gif

It's a self limiting condition, and as you say normally caused by a viral infection so there's no 'cure' except time. You may gain some relief by gargling with warm salt water (teaspoonful to a half pint is about right). My own favourite is steam inhalation-big bowl of boiling water with a teaspoonful of Vicks stirred in-towel over your head and two over your baws in case you knock the bowl over. Inhale deeply through the mouth and exhale through the nose for about ten minutes. Try not to smoke till it settles down and don't be overusing your voice. Good luck.

Oh and I take no responsibility for advice given and strongly advise you to speak to a real doctor if it's not improving within 24-48 hours!!! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-15 09:15:03
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Dec 15 2008, 09:12 AM) [snapback]550482[/snapback]
The teuchter knows what he means doc...

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mortonjag 2008-12-16 07:07:14
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Dec 15 2008, 11:45 AM) [snapback]550521[/snapback]
for f***s sake you old arsehole.. a guy gets murdered by english police officers, and you think the story can be spun in any way to make it look reasonable... i bet if the officers in question were called ddfr you would want them hung ! theres no excuse for what they did... there was no pressure on them other than the pressure from their bosses to "get somebody"... the whole lot of them from the pm down to the guys who went on that train and murdered this guy should be charged with murder... i hate the excuse that they were protecting US from terrorists ! they just murdered one of "us".. time to get your heads out the sand !



Very true!
mortonjag 2008-12-16 07:10:26
QUOTE(Loveless @ Dec 15 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]550576[/snapback]
No one was murdered, no one was "executed".

The police were doing their job and got it badly wrong. It's a tragic situation but as far as I'm concerned if the policemen involved get it right 99% of the time then I'm happy.

As for the cover-up (if there was one), that's an entirely different matter and anyone involved should obviously be disiplined, but as for the incident itself, using words like murder and execution don't help anyone, and they won't bring anyone back.



Such logic is normally the province of the erudite and educated. You're not a doctor perchance?

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mortonjag 2008-12-16 07:15:18
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Dec 15 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]550503[/snapback]
Sorry, should have asked Mouton for advice! laugh.gif
Cheers.



mouton is a little ram
whose fleece is black as coal
he kids on he's the jag ewe know
I'll ram one up his hole
mortonjag 2008-12-16 09:21:00
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Dec 16 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]550948[/snapback]
Something tells me that Sheridan is good at tickling balls.

Tell him to f*ck off Donga.
mortonjag 2008-12-16 09:22:54
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Dec 15 2008, 03:53 PM) [snapback]550640[/snapback]
You sure that's the right spellling?? laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-12-16 09:42:17
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Dec 16 2008, 09:25 AM) [snapback]550959[/snapback]
15 Easy Steps to Poo like a Woman:

1. Under no circumstances use any other toilet than your own, regardless of any stomach pain may be caused whilst waiting to get home.
2. With the toilet-brush, clean any residue left on the pan by your boyfriend / husband. Also wipe his pubic hair off the seat with some toilet paper.
3. Flush the toilet before starting. Then wash your hands.
4. Line the toilet seat with toilet paper (as other people may have sat on the toilet since it was last bleached).
5. Stuff toilet paper inside the pan to prevent splashback.
6. Pull panties down and sit. Some women may still prefer to squat over the seat as opposed to taking the risk of touching it with bare flesh.
7. Release solids, but strain to avoid making any sounds.
8. Rise and quickly flush before direct eye-contact is made with any faeces.
9. Take a length of toilet paper and fold it several times to positively guarantee that no residue will touch bare skin (about five or six applications per roll).
10. Wipe once and throw paper into the pan. Do not look at the paper.
11. Repeat steps 9 and 10 at least thirty times. It may be necessary to yell for your boyfriend/husband to find some more rolls to pass through the door while promising not to open his eyes or pass any comments. It is traditional to do this while he is trying to watch sport.
12. Flush the toilet and replace the lid.
13. Wash hands at least three times with disinfectant soap.
14. Open all windows and spray approximately half-a-can of air freshener.
15. Pick up all reading material left behind by your boyfriend/husband and leave bathroom, closing the door firmly behind you.

15 Easy Steps to Poo like a Man:

1. Select reading material (can be anything except a porn-mag; tried by every man once, but never repeated - see step 4).
2. Tell everyone along the way, "Just going for a dump, okay?" Always tell girlfriend/wife, especially when she has visitors.
3. Pull pants and trousers around ankles, then sit down.
4. Adjust penis and testicles to hang comfortably without touching the toilet rim.
5. Open reading material and relax.
6. Whilst waiting, it is traditional to audibly fart.
7. Sigh loudly as the first one bullets out. It is quite normal to experience a cold jet of water rocket up your anus as a result of the first bomb. This is to be endured if you want to be a real man.
8. Remain sitting and reading until pins-and-needles set in to your legs and buttocks.
9. Rise and look at the poo. Make mental notes of any irregularities to report to friends and girlfriend/wife, e.g. colour, consistency, any visible traces of peanuts, etc. You must tell people about it.
10. Take long length of paper and wipe anus. You must look at the paper before throwing it into the pan.
11. Repeat step 10 until there is no longer any evidence of faeces on the paper.
12. Flush. If there is any residue left on the pan, under no circumstances attempt to clean it off. In due course, it will come away by itself. Or, when your girlfriend/wife next uses the loo.
13. Leave the seat up. Leave the reading material on the floor (you can use it again later).
14. Wash your hands once.
15. Vacate the bathroom, leaving the door open. It is important to a man's self-esteem that other people smell his produce.
_________________

One easy step to crap like an eejit.

Follow Shoogly into the lavvy.
mortonjag 2008-12-16 10:06:47
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 16 2008, 09:43 AM) [snapback]550972[/snapback]
I'm asking for your interpretation.

I offered two different scenarios regarding god's part in creating all life. One: that the process is "on rails" and that it couldn't have happened any differently (and, given what we understand of evolution via natural selection, this would mean that not only animal but also human life MUST be guided, as the slightest change could have resulted in something extremely different.)

The other option is that god merely set down the building blocks - the various raw materials and laws - and what happened afterwards was left to chance.

Which one of these was your interpretation of "god made the birds?"

Note that my own opinions on science haven't come into this at all, except the given that evolution via natural selection explains the variety of life on this planet far better than any competing theory or superstition.

Also your increasingly drunken attempts to discredit me are failing, and I doubt that this has gone unnoticed by the neutral reader biggrin.gif
You boldly proclaimed that because god exists outwith the space-time continuum he cannot be bound by the laws of space and time. This is true. However you went ON to proclaim that the absence of these laws meant that there are no analogues to it, and furthermore you implied that there are no laws at all.

I will put my objection to this argument in one sentence, hoping that you won't ignore it for a third (or perhaps fourth) time: the absence of laws does not logically entail that the opposite of the laws is true.

One of us is angry - well, hungover by now, probably - and it certainly isn't me.



QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 16 2008, 09:44 AM) [snapback]550973[/snapback]
It wasn't sarcastic. You are unlettered on the topic that we are discussing.

That I didn't read one specific text in my intellectual tradition doesn't prove especially much. I haven't read all of Spinoza either but I fancy that I know a bit about him.



QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 16 2008, 09:46 AM) [snapback]550974[/snapback]
It's weird how we've gone from there being "degrees" of libertarianism - as well as the deflection regarding anarcho-syndicalism - to there being, apparently, just the one style: yours.

It's hilarious how you can have that pious sig about the benign state but also ask for the state to aggregate the interests of religious groups. I can scarcely think of a bigger contradiction... but then consistency never was the strength of the credulous.

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mortonjag 2008-12-16 11:50:43
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 16 2008, 10:10 AM) [snapback]550978[/snapback]
Looking for some attention on this grey morning?

Why not offer your thoughts on any of the above, and I'll see what I can do?

'God is dead'

Neitsche


'NEITSCHE IS DEAD'


God
mortonjag 2008-12-16 13:11:55
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 15 2008, 10:03 PM) [snapback]550852[/snapback]
Ah, Kirsty Young...... wub.gif

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mortonjag 2008-12-16 13:24:40
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Dec 16 2008, 01:10 PM) [snapback]551040[/snapback]
Don't bite, look at his profile and check out his posts. Almost Every one a walloper. An attention-seeking little so and so.

Edited to avoid my post being an actual bite itself, i suppose.

If you say so! dry.gif

QUOTE(MrsTON @ Dec 16 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]551043[/snapback]
She is probably used to being around musicians, her mum was the singer in Soul to Soul, so i'm pretty sure she was around that type of people. Apparently Stevie Wonder wanted to sign her when she was 12.

Obviously a man of vision.
mortonjag 2008-12-16 13:34:56 If anyone has any questions they would like the Trust to ask the Directors of Morton Football Club during the AGM, please email info@gmst.org.ukThis e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it with full details, only genuine questions and those deemed approriate by the Trust Board will be put forward.

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mortonjag 2008-12-16 13:36:43
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Dec 16 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]551047[/snapback]
C'mon Nacho, hurry up. I want to hear about this roll dammit!

Maybe he choked on it! ph34r.gif


(Act of God)
mortonjag 2008-12-16 14:11:14
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 16 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]551055[/snapback]
I was once involved in a motorcycle accident where a stone dyke wall had come down during the night on the back roads to Bridge of Wier and when I tried to claim my insurance I was declined.

Reason given. Act of God.

WTF did he do, shove it over during the night. I wish I hade pursued it as being an athiest and never having been marked by any religion I am sure I could have done a Billy Connolly and taken God to court.

Surely a warrant would be issued when he didn't appear after citation.

You'd think in this day and age that insurance companies would have found a more realistic way of labelling their cop outs!

I suppose you could have taken out a civil action against the owner of the dyke.

Dykes have much to answer for.
mortonjag 2008-12-16 14:18:12
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 16 2008, 02:06 PM) [snapback]551065[/snapback]
John's Joint Update #000001
16 Dec 2008, approx. 1100hrs
Slice Roll w/ Onions, Tomato Ketchup; Diet Irn Bru

Boozehound recommended that a perfect way to shake off the demons of a hectic early morning was to enjoy a slice roll from John's Joint. Taking, as I do, all my major life decisions from peoples' messageboard posts, I agreed.

It was a mild enough day on the face of it when I ventured out to my car, but a biting wind, coupled with a relentless drizzle, added a bit of cool to the surroundings - perfect slice roll weather, in other words, as it was not too inclement as to necessitate going inside.

Coming up Regent Street, I turned the car around outside John's Joint so as to make good my escape in plenty of time - something that would later work to my benefit. Parking across the road thus, I made my way to the counter.

As it was past breakfast time but not yet the lunch hour there was just one other person queuing: his rolls (both slice and potato scone) were prepared and given to him within seconds of my arrival. This left me free to order a slice roll with onions and tomato ketchup.

After paying John's assistant I fancied that the time might be right to take a photo of John, who was holding court with a customer on the inside of the Joint:

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Now, here's where things get a bit hairy.

You may notice that in the stack of eggs on the left-hand side of the picture there is a small black object. That is, in fact, a mobile phone. I decided that this required a close-up photo, so that the readers of this page could help me decide whether or not this was simply a convenience matter, or if the phone was employed to "pre-cook" the eggs via its radiation - a time-saving device that would surely revolutionise the quick-service food industry.

So, I took a photo. But not only did it prove to be completely unusable (and thus it isn't shown here - there's a 1mb upload limit that I'd rather use on instructive images) but it also caused the photo flash to go off.

John and his customer both looked for the source of the flash. I, being far too embarassed to admit what I was doing, also turned around to look behind me. But the game was clearly up.

"Sorry - I was trying to send a text and I accidentally hit the camera button," I lied.

"Hah! New phone, is it," enquired John.

"Yes," I said.

Damn! I knew that if he asked to see the phone he'd see that it is in fact well-worn from months of constant usage. I had to think fast.

"Well, new to me, at any rate - it used to be my brothers," I backpedalled.

From there we engaged in some phone/photo related banter until my roll was given to me (with choice of sauce: tomato ketchup), and my Diet Bru procured from the fridge.

Overcome with shame and embarassment I made my way back to the car, where the spoils of my journey were placed on the passenger seat.

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The only thing left for it was to drive a short distance down the street and tear the bag open to create a sort of "plate", allowing me to eat on the move. The fruits of this endeavour are shown here: my "thumbs-up" indicates approval not just with my handiwork but also that of John.

edit: the shoes in the passenger footwell are those that I wear when outside the car. However I find them very uncomfortable and indeed slippery when driving, so I change into trainers that are, when the car is not in use, stored in the same place.

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It's a good roll!

Here's a close-up:

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Now, from this angle it looks like it's laden with onions, but this is just a trick of the image. In fact the amount of onions could be referred to as a "smattering." That, however, is exactly what I was looking for.

The roll, being hot and freshly prepared, created a goodly amount of steam in my car - sadly this wasn't captured by the camera. And there was no time for a third attempt at the photo for no sooner had this final photo been taken than I had eaten the roll. I don't even think I'd made it onto the main road before the final crumbs disappeared down my gullet. The can of diet Bru, though, being impractical for the journey, remains in my glovebox.

Overall this was a shame-ridden, but still very tasty journey to John's Joint.

Artery clogging crap washed down with DIET Bru! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-16 14:20:08
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 16 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]551072[/snapback]
That would be Diet Irn-Bru. The can is clearly marked.

And I prefer diet Bru to the normal stuff. I find the normal stuff too syrupy - the diet one is refreshing and has a good "bite" to it.

With Coke the sugary kind is much tastier, IMO. So if there was a Coke product in the car it would have been classic and not Diet.

Edited and noted that you go for the higher caffeine content! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-16 14:22:49
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 16 2008, 02:21 PM) [snapback]551077[/snapback]
I do tend to drink around a litre of diet Bru a day, on work days at least (of which this is one.)

No doubt there's some kind of medical problem attached to this that I don't give a f*** about out.

Fat basturditis! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-16 15:19:47
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 16 2008, 02:24 PM) [snapback]551084[/snapback]
So... we need to 'stop being so defensive minded' because we lost one game away to the runaway league leaders, when by all accounts we were unfortunate to do so?

Not by my account! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-16 15:25:50
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 16 2008, 02:25 PM) [snapback]551085[/snapback]
With Diet Bru? It's like 2 calories a can or something...

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Damage limitation! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-16 15:28:30 Public spanking is the answer.
mortonjag 2008-12-16 15:29:52
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 16 2008, 03:20 PM) [snapback]551126[/snapback]
Correction: all relevant and balanced accounts. happy.gif

As assessed by an unbalanced toddler!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-16 15:31:57
QUOTE(Thrax @ Dec 16 2008, 02:59 PM) [snapback]551115[/snapback]
I was disgusted when I saw Asda selling tins of baby peas...

Surely it's a bit too soon.

How do they get them out of the nappies?
mortonjag 2008-12-16 15:52:37
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 16 2008, 03:44 PM) [snapback]551161[/snapback]
Whom?

Well done!

For that I promote you to homo erectus. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-16 15:59:13
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Dec 16 2008, 03:53 PM) [snapback]551173[/snapback]
I've only witnessed this Vickers lass in action a few times and I don't know what the fuss is about. She's bloody awful.

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mortonjag 2008-12-16 16:00:58
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 16 2008, 03:54 PM) [snapback]551174[/snapback]
Can you still keep an 'erectus' or are you beyond that stage? rolleyes.gif

Keep it clean young man-we haven't reached the watershed yet-talking of which, I'm off to hoover the flat or I won't get my hole tonight. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-16 16:25:38
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 16 2008, 04:03 PM) [snapback]551181[/snapback]
Toad, or otherwise?

Mountain goat.
mortonjag 2008-12-16 16:26:59
QUOTE(Thrax @ Dec 16 2008, 04:09 PM) [snapback]551187[/snapback]
kick them? huh.gif

Like trampling grapes?
mortonjag 2008-12-16 19:20:27
QUOTE(Thrax @ Dec 16 2008, 04:30 PM) [snapback]551211[/snapback]
i dont know...are trampling grapes like baby peas?

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Only on Sundays.
mortonjag 2008-12-16 19:24:37
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Dec 16 2008, 06:43 PM) [snapback]551278[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif "genuine and appropriate", that screws you up for asking any questions.

Woof bloody woof! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-16 19:41:33 That time of year again to recognise the best, worst, funniest posters/moments of the year. Who has made your year on here worthwhile, and who has made it a living hell.

if you can think of any more categories then say and they can be added to the list.

Best Overall Poster

Mortonjag

Worst Overall Poster

Nach0c*nt

Best Wean (Under 18)

Deego

Worst Wean (Under 18)

Vikingbrat

Best Female Poster

On the piss

Funniest Poster

Port ton

Best Newcomer

Mouton

Worst Newcomer

Too many to mention

Best Poster Who Stopped Posting As Much This Year And Is Sorely Missed

Mortonjag

Poster Who Stopped Posting As Much This Year Who Won't be Missed

Hunners

Best Thread

AD saga

Worst Thread

What are you listening to

Biggest Stud

My kn*b

Hottest Female

Big Blue Eyes

Best Overseas Poster

Newton

Best Mod

They are all complete fuds

Biggest Pisshead

Dongawhere'smymirrorton

Biggest Geek

Prince Philip

Special Contribution Award

Mortonjag


Biggest piece of total unadulterated keech

Ron Number


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mortonjag 2008-12-16 20:46:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 16 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]551318[/snapback]
Exactly. So don't go knocking the present 'varsities' if that's what you were inferring. After all, it's 'old fellas' from our generation that teach in them. Wait a minute, maybe you're right enough. Maybe the knuckle nappers that used to inhabit the beer bar are now teaching philosophy. laugh.gif

That's the whole problem Mr Edwards. Wouldn't it be lovely if people had the confidence to think for themselves instead of quoting from big books.

Mortonjag has provided more wisdom and insight on this piffling little rag than half of the so called Filly Suppers quoted by the board's ignorant young brats.

THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:


For countless years God has been wondering who the f*ck created man behind his back. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-16 20:50:20
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Dec 16 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]551324[/snapback]
You are a good poster.

So gonnae naw use Americanisms. rolleyes.gif

Don't talk feces!
mortonjag 2008-12-16 20:52:26
QUOTE(port-ton @ Dec 16 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]551326[/snapback]
laugh.gif sorry, its a force of habit. I even spell colour as color. sad.gif

Do you clean your f*nny with blue and white bumph?
mortonjag 2008-12-16 20:59:28
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 16 2008, 08:53 PM) [snapback]551330[/snapback]
I visted his grave on Inchmahome a few years ago. A fascinating man with an equally fascinating life story.

"The problem for Scotland is not the English who are a great and wise people. The problem for Scotland are those Scots born without imagination."

Robert Bontine Cunninghame-Graham 21 June 1930

That's no excuse for tattooing it on yer tadger.
mortonjag 2008-12-16 21:02:26
QUOTE(big blue eyes @ Dec 16 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]551320[/snapback]
You would be astonished to discover that I am in fact
BRYAN

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That's a complete fabrication! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-16 21:05:16 ...of all the tawdry cheap and nasty stuff on this web site.

I just wish everybody would grow up, behave maturely, and learn to treat others with respect and dignity.
mortonjag 2008-12-17 10:56:58
QUOTE(midTONs @ Dec 17 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]551520[/snapback]
Are you saying the accounts are correct?

and why not post under your usual username when replying to me, ffs it's a message board all about opinions Ive mine you have your, you're telling me to Extract your head and smell the coffee I'm telling you to climb out from behind the couch and keep to the one username. laugh.gif

I was NOT behind the couch-I was cleaning Mr Rae's arse car for him.
mortonjag 2008-12-18 07:33:44
QUOTE(capitanus @ Dec 17 2008, 06:47 PM) [snapback]551729[/snapback]
I would contribute to this thread, but i wont bother since all my posts have to be reviewed by a moderator before they're submitted.

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Let me help you Cap'n!




PUBIC HEALTH WARNING FROM CAPITANUS





RAE ROTS TEETH AND FOOTBALL CLUBS


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mortonjag 2008-12-18 10:40:46
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Dec 17 2008, 09:37 PM) [snapback]551776[/snapback]
I've been collecting pubes from all the lavatory seats it's been my pleasure to sit on, been doing this for 35 years. I've been wondering whether to re-upholster my settee or create a replica of Donga. Whaddya fink?

I've been collecting dead bodies for many years. The cellar's full of them-in fact I've still not got round to stuffing the last four or five. If you'd like an unusual Christmas gift I could shave off their pubes and mail them to you. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-18 14:41:20
QUOTE(se65an @ Dec 18 2008, 05:54 AM) [snapback]551845[/snapback]
Jim, hate to be the one to tell you this, but must people get the flu every winter laugh.gif

Anyway, Gateside, your showing yir age there, that was shutdown in the 80's. wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-12-18 14:47:59
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 18 2008, 01:53 PM) [snapback]551935[/snapback]
The year is 2745 AD and the debate over God continues to rage on the Greenockmorton.org forum.

It has now reached a Guiness Record of 14,998 pages with no conclusion anticipated anytime soon. rolleyes.gif

...and the Tilly reports the finding of a fossilised humanoid form under a pile of fossilised books. Protruding from its mouth is a fossilised slice roll covered in fossilised slevers..
mortonjag 2008-12-18 14:57:11
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Dec 18 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]551942[/snapback]
Aspartame RAWKSSSSS! smile.gif

aye
mortonjag 2008-12-18 15:52:02
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Dec 18 2008, 02:50 PM) [snapback]551953[/snapback]
Pish mate, doesn't even rhyme.

Donga is a great big ram
His fleece is black and hairy
He covers it in bramble jam
And dances like a fairy!

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mortonjag 2008-12-18 15:54:31
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Dec 18 2008, 02:58 PM) [snapback]551961[/snapback]
I realise that in the current climate that a football club isn't exactly going to be the most viable thing going, and that it may be necessary to have external financial input to some extent...
...but that is no excuse for making no effort at all to try and maximise the commercial potential of the club. We're never going to have a self-sustaining club if the people in charge insist on running it like a tuck-shop.

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mortonjag 2008-12-18 16:00:24
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 18 2008, 03:40 PM) [snapback]551985[/snapback]
There's no link between the personal feeling of faith and... well, anything. It is a wholly personal phenomenon. (Or so I am told. Having never experienced it I couldn't say for sure, but this is what I am repeatedly told.)

But faith in an organised religion is almost always (in our society at least) sparked by childhood indoctrination. The actual faith part follows later. The "childhood" part is very important as this is when people are at their most credulous - they are literally defenceless against the stories told to them by authority figures.

Thankfully most people seem able to grow out of it these days but you always get people whose credulity endures for the longer term, sadly sad.gif

In any case the important thing is that the secularisation of the education system takes place sooner rather than later. Of course parents and churches must absolutely have a right to preach and indoctrinate as they see fit - children are not the state's property, after all - but it should be done independently, as it is in many civilised countries with establishment clauses (e.g. the United States.)

I know I come across as arrogant, but I don't especially care.
I really don't think he can, but let's find out!

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mortonjag 2008-12-18 16:14:56
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Dec 18 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]552020[/snapback]
What if God was one of us?

Little smegma-oops-nach0 would be God. He is all knowing, all seeing, and eats slice rolls.
mortonjag 2008-12-18 16:18:37 MY heart leaps up when I behold
A rainbow in the sky:
So was it when my life began,
So is it now I am a man,
So be it when I shall grow old
Or let me die!
The child is father of the man:
And I could wish my days to be
Bound each to each by natural piety.
mortonjag 2008-12-18 16:24:24
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 18 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]552029[/snapback]
Also, were you drinking when you made post #276? This is starting to bug me now, I just have to know biggrin.gif

I can't quite work out if you were beaten too much or not enough as a child! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-18 16:31:43
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 18 2008, 04:27 PM) [snapback]552042[/snapback]
I really couldn't care less about that. I just don't like being misquoted.

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mortonjag 2008-12-18 18:07:07
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 18 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]552049[/snapback]
I'd be crying too if I was in your shoes. biggrin.gif

Is that a simple statement of faith, or do you have proof. Do you have bunions-if so I have an excellent cure. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-18 18:14:26
QUOTE(se65an @ Dec 18 2008, 05:35 PM) [snapback]552103[/snapback]
laugh.gif I wonder how MJ gets through his day, he must be about 90 or something

wan king size after another

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 18 2008, 05:37 PM) [snapback]552104[/snapback]
He gets through his day by creating alter egos such as Big Blue Eyes, which probably turn him on in a strange kind of way. rip.gif


I don't fancy Blue Eyes
McArthur-you're a creep
I thought you hated paedos
And I'd rather shag a sheep
mortonjag 2008-12-18 18:29:32 shutup.gif

I've just realised that this is a serious thread-people are actually getting worked up about an imponderable. If you want a debate where ultimate proof is possible, I put it to you that Shoogly has a black wart under his foreskin. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-18 18:36:03
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Dec 18 2008, 05:11 PM) [snapback]552083[/snapback]
Looking at St Mirren and Thistle, two fairly local teams, if we could average a home support of 3000 regularly that would be great.
To go any higher I think we'd require much better facilities and even summer football, as the likes of Motherwell, Killie and even Dunfermline when they were in the S.P.L. can only muster a loyal home support of around the 4000 mark.
Time and time again we've heard at Cappielow that we require an average home gate of 4000 in order to break which is a long long way off as far as I'm concerned.

IF we were winning every week-top of the 1st, division and scoring three and four regularly, I'd fully expect crowds to average 3,500 or more.
mortonjag 2008-12-18 18:39:11 What an outrageously ridiculous postulation. That mercenary b*stard would be looking for SPL wages.

Not a chance. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-18 18:43:07
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 18 2008, 06:31 PM) [snapback]552122[/snapback]
I glad you're not picking the team. The team will be the same as Saturday except that we will play 4-4-2 so one of the midfield will make way for a striker. I suspect that either Paartalu or Finlayson will be on the bench and either Wake or Russell will partner Grady upfront.

If DM is again played at right back Irons has truly lost the plot or Rae is meddling AGAIN!
mortonjag 2008-12-18 18:50:46
QUOTE(forza ton @ Dec 18 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]552130[/snapback]
another good thread ruined sad.gif

No it's NOT another thread ruined-though I'm hardly surprised that you haven't the wit to read between the lines. Stick to criticising folk down at your paltry IQ level sonny boy. mad.gif

God cannot be disproved or proved.


END OF!

Now I suggest that Shoogly's sub-preputial naevus is in fact green and white. Have you an opinion, or are you only capable of cheap jibes? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-18 19:33:23
QUOTE(forza ton @ Dec 18 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]552138[/snapback]
don't patronise me you f***ing old freak.

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I wouldn't dream of it!

I merely opined that you ain't very bright-is that OK with you junior? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-18 19:51:58
QUOTE(se65an @ Dec 18 2008, 06:40 AM) [snapback]551848[/snapback]
Only ever drove it to London and back, though I will admit someone cut the speedo cable on the way back. rolleyes.gif

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Are you sure it wasn't the drum brakes that seized on?
mortonjag 2008-12-19 08:15:34
QUOTE(se65an @ Dec 19 2008, 08:02 AM) [snapback]552319[/snapback]
IMO there is no God.

I hope there is somesort of after life, cos I speak with ma Dad everyday, and if not, it makes me out to be some sort of nutter.(Gld Ravenscraig is shut)

God and religion, IMO are born out of the need to understand things we never will.

Why didn't you just say that to start with-look at all the trouble you've caused! laugh.gif

As I said earlier when I managed to get a word in edgeways between the usual up their own erses intelligentsia posts-God cannot be proven or dis-proven.

I believe in a higher power-I believe that any individual can have his own 'higher power'.

So-in the mortal words of Dave Allen-'May your higher power go with you'! angel.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-19 08:45:01
QUOTE(se65an @ Dec 19 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]552321[/snapback]
So what you saying here, you saying am going to win the lottery and buy Cappielow one day? Or is someone going to spike my drink tonight and make me feel like a god. rolleyes.gif

I said that the 'Higher Power' is IMO an individual matter-possibly just an extension of the conscious mind to a different level. In some ways I find that far more tangible than the concept of one omnipotence.
mortonjag 2008-12-19 10:39:44
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 18 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]552179[/snapback]
And this is why we can never bring corporal punishment back!



Don't be a wimp-just be a good wee boy and your little pink bum will be entirely safe. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-19 10:50:43
QUOTE(johnston @ Dec 19 2008, 10:44 AM) [snapback]552380[/snapback]
I hope there's not a tone of irritability in the above quote, redolent of others' dismissiveness about your diet.
That's one of the alleged symptoms of too much aspartame. biggrin.gif

This thread has negated a small part of the millions spent by the Scottish Government on health education, and for that, you'll probably receive a knighthood, because that's the way of things.

Yours
Hydrogenatedfatmortonsupportersclub. biggrin.gif

PS. Does John put butter/marg. on both sides of the roll or does he do (the Paisley tight-arse) one side only'?.

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eek!
mortonjag 2008-12-19 10:56:57
QUOTE(se65an @ Dec 19 2008, 08:23 AM) [snapback]552322[/snapback]
You know nothing, its got all round disc brakes. tsst, have I got to educate everyone on here laugh.gif

mortonjag knows everything and a Porsche 911 does not have a speedo cable!

That was my point.

I see there's a new Porsche dealer on Kempock St. at Church's old shop.

Anybody know if he's any good?
mortonjag 2008-12-19 11:19:25
QUOTE(rex manning @ Dec 19 2008, 10:31 AM) [snapback]552365[/snapback]
He's not really exagerating that much, against Airdrie we only made 4 passes that found their men once in the 2nd half. I know because the game was so dire that i bet my brother a £1 we couldnt string 4 together. I also agree with the 2nd point i would like to see some football being played, give me a narrow 5-4 defeat rather than a backs to the walls nil nil bore fest.

Having watched us get pumped off Ross County in October i'd take a draw right now.

I enjoyed the recent away match at Dunfermline-we actually took the game to them particularly in the first half and there was plenty of crisp one touch passing which put the Pars on the back foot. I don't feel there's lack of ability in the squad-just an appalling lack of options in key positions. With no wingers and no overlapping wing backs we must be pretty easy for opposing managers to predict.

I wish the myth about Jimbo and Kev could be blown forever-in terms of end product they're not that great. Davie McGregor has been well out of his depth while Smith (whom I do rate for the future) is too easily sucked away from his man.

Even in terms of being 'hard to beat' we have weaknesses, while our goal scoring options are minimal.

Time will tell. Perhaps DI has been misjudged by many. At the moment I don't rate him any higher than JM in terms of player selection and tactics, though I'm led to believe he's a good coach.
mortonjag 2008-12-19 11:24:21
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 19 2008, 10:56 AM) [snapback]552389[/snapback]
Puggsy always plays it safe smile.gif
However it is interesting the "have them hung" parade have stayed well clear of this thread!

hanged


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mortonjag 2008-12-19 11:27:17
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 19 2008, 11:03 AM) [snapback]552394[/snapback]
I read all of this last night.
...why did I?

And why do I keep coming back for more?!?!

I guess I want to see if Nacho gets struck by lightning anytime soon, that may prove something.

But if he doesn't does that disprove something?

Oooh the problems!

If he does the neighbours will think there's a new 'greasy spoon' round the corner. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-19 11:54:48
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Dec 19 2008, 11:36 AM) [snapback]552410[/snapback]
True. For example, on 4th October 2008: "In a few weeks Davie Irons who has undoubtedly done his best, will be a distant memory at Cappielow. The man whom the Chairman promised 'Would be with us for a long time to come' will have been sacrificed amidst the usual platitudes about his 'decency, professionalism, and dedication' and mumblings about ' A results driven business'.
Wonder who could have written that, eh MJ? laugh.gif

Forget who wrote it and ask why it was written.

Grady-the last ditch attempt to save his neck-ended up being an early Christmas present, and the internal strife was sorted at the 11th hour.

I'm SO glad we're now top of the league and promotion certs! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-19 12:01:20
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Dec 19 2008, 11:51 AM) [snapback]552417[/snapback]
Perhaps the appointment of Mr Duncan and the exciting stadia plans will stop some people jumping striaght in with there doom and gloom stories as soon as a bit of news is released.

Perhaps the non-arrival of the only non-Rae Director who presumably HAS some clout, indicates yet again that he's just biding his time till Shoogly disappears.

I'm glad you find the 'stadia plans' exciting. I'd rather see some money spent on decent playing staff in the first instance.
mortonjag 2008-12-19 12:14:55
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Dec 19 2008, 12:12 PM) [snapback]552430[/snapback]
It's on Eldon Street. Some cracking cars in it. Believe it or not he seems to be doing not bad trade, my mother stays next to it and she has spoken to him a few times.

I thought he sounded like a local man. He's been advertising for cherished numbers to promote the business. Any idea of his previous history?
mortonjag 2008-12-19 12:23:34
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Dec 19 2008, 12:16 PM) [snapback]552435[/snapback]
Luckily for the majority of posters on this Board, your views on anything Morton-related are worth f*ck all. So you can continue to bleet on and on and on and on ................... laugh.gif

That was extremely funny Anus! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-19 12:29:34
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Dec 19 2008, 12:18 PM) [snapback]552438[/snapback]
He lives in Inverkip, think he sells a lot up in Glasgow. Seems a nice guy, rolled up his sleeves and got tore in while refurbishing the salesroom, even had his wife digging up the garden out front. Not sure if he does a lot of business on the internet. Seems a genuine guy, cracking motors.

TYVM!

Probably an ex Porsche salesman who's decided to go it alone. I've already checked his website and the stuff looks good.
mortonjag 2008-12-19 13:04:25 Just finished doing another kitchen and remembered I promised you a picture of my Mummy in hers!
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mortonjag 2008-12-20 09:34:49 Many thanks for all the kind words, though I haven't a clue what Thrax's message means!

To HT-don't be cheeky-mortonjag thinks of everything-my Mum is blind and her right leg is 1.76324 cms longer than her left, causing her to list as she walks. The kitchen has been designed to make her an upstanding woman for the first time in her life.

Incidentally my brother Frank may read this. He's pathologically argumentative and will no doubt claim that Mummy's left leg is shorter than her right, but as always mortonjag is correct.

Any little DIY tasks needing done gents? biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-20 09:45:03 I presume Morton are not to blame for the regulations, but to call a match off because a tannoy is broken is just typical of modern society. As AT suggests what happened to good old loud hailers. Additionally, how difficult is it to rig up a temporary system. The buskers don't have much bother in the city centres.


HUMBUG
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But wait-is that REALLY the truth or is this just a fiddle. Let's face it, if the match goes ahead but there's no income from hospitality-erm-hmm.............

On second thoughts, the Rae family would never dream of that sort of thing. Sorry I ever mentioned it. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-20 09:53:15 So that's it sorted. Everything will be fine now and it's great to know that we'll have a real live director making regular informative insider comments on this wee massage board, and telling Shoogly to get to f*ck if he dares to complain.

G'on yersel Stuarty boy-ream it up the old fud.

Light is at the end of the tunnel! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-20 10:08:08
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Dec 19 2008, 08:08 PM) [snapback]552695[/snapback]
is the world famous Craig Charleston, whoever the f*** that is?!?!? ph34r.gif

Oh wait having checked, it's Mr. Extra Time from Cappielow last season mad.gif mad.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

He's the bloke who danced down to Scapa last season expecting to call the game off when the pitch was fine!!

Travelling expenses x 2 that day.

Mr Charleston was recently in trouble for allegedly swearing at a Traffic Warden-seems he likes dishing it out but can't take it back! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-20 10:15:25
QUOTE(togib @ Dec 20 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]552959[/snapback]
aye.... can you fix the drains outside t-mobile? unsure.gif unsure.gif

It's not my scene. Would you like the number of my good friend Noah?
mortonjag 2008-12-20 10:25:08
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Dec 19 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]552711[/snapback]
Really ?

Oh well, cuppa tea then, tongue.gif

Shouldn't laugh really, i know how infuriating it is getting stuck in s***ty traffic on the way home from work, puts me in a foul mood most of the evening & that in turn pisses the missus off.

Makes for a happy home i can tell ya. rolleyes.gif

Dream on furry glovester! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-20 10:34:28
QUOTE(forza ton @ Dec 20 2008, 12:08 AM) [snapback]552834[/snapback]
just finished the millers and mite crack open a bolla wine. is there any point? youse all going to bed to w**k / pray / hump or even read ya dafties!

i'm feelin festive happy.gif

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mortonjag 2008-12-20 10:39:17
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Dec 20 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]552969[/snapback]
Temporary system in place but there'll not be any music I'm afraid, you'll all just need to sing yer hearts out! smile.gif

HA


Tannoy man gets a dose of self induced uvulvitis and persuades his good friend God to flood the stadium!

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mortonjag 2008-12-20 13:29:43
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 20 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]552983[/snapback]
You really are a pompous disagreeable t***. A lot of people worked their butts off to get this match on and as you should have been able to glean from my post, the only hospitality suite affected was the small silver lounge which only holds about a dozen people. There were people in Cappielow until midnight last night and then again from early this morning. Susan told me about the tannoy and she's not to know whether a temporary system can be rigged or not. Well it has been and that's excellent.

A wee bit appreciation of the efforts people made to let this game go ahead would not go amiss instead of your usual sneering.

Your bedside manner lets you down Doctor!

Stating the obvious is surely below your intellect numbers man! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Fellow Traveller @ Dec 20 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]553036[/snapback]
Good to see the old reliable cynicism back MJ.
I was worried you had become a bit wooly headed lately. smile.gif
................................................FT

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Blessed is he who expecteth nothing for the Raes will produce even less! dry.gif


mortonjag 2008-12-21 09:19:51
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 20 2008, 01:31 PM) [snapback]553056[/snapback]
f*** off Mortonjag, you tedious c***.

Welcome back Uncle Mortonjag-I've missed you so much. My post count will now double.

QUOTE(beermonkey @ Dec 20 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]553057[/snapback]
Twice i've agreed with you now ! unsure.gif

Welcome back mortonjag, I'll feel much better soon.


(signed beermonkey's cat)
mortonjag 2008-12-21 09:31:21
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 20 2008, 10:57 AM) [snapback]552984[/snapback]
There were people in Cappielow until nearly midnight last night and then again from early this morning to try to make sure the match today could go ahead. I, for one, would just like to say a big thank you to all concerned. Your efforts were much appreciated by me especially as this is the only game my son who is home from the USA can take in.

For everyone involved, cheers!

BRAVO_BRAVO_BRAVO_BRAVO_BRAVO-chaps, and a special BRAVO to numbers man's son who came all the way from America just so that his Daddy could tell us and ask for a wee tune to be played at Cappielow. It's a shame it wasn't but the lad got a wee mensh. Maybe if the twats who are supposed to maintain our rusting wreck of a stadium were up to their jobs the superhuman efforts of those small town heroes would have been unnecessary.

I believe the maintenance man's called Noah Hope. ph34r.gif


mortonjag 2008-12-21 09:36:52 There was nothing at all jaundiced about Toby's report. The only mistake he made was in admitting to a little personal bias which as always has been pounced on by those who still believe the Chairman is sane.
mortonjag 2008-12-21 09:45:17
QUOTE(centralTON @ Dec 21 2008, 01:32 AM) [snapback]553313[/snapback]
Thorn, look at the post above yours, The 'Shire fans love him, however I'm not convinced he is the answer to our striking problem.

It's wake up and smell the coffee time again Franco!

Of course he's not! We've got strikers already. The answer to our striking problem is to get a bloody manager who believes in attacking football, wingers, through balls, etc.

Bullock didn't have a decent save to make yesterday-it's dire stuff we're having to endure. I'm beginning to wish Grady had never arrived and we'd got that clean start. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-21 09:56:16
QUOTE(C B @ Dec 20 2008, 09:17 PM) [snapback]553222[/snapback]
(already posted on P&B but you know what that lot are like dry.gif )

Anyway, the attendance today at Cappielow confirmed to me what is wrong with Scottish Football. Ross County had less than a bus full at the game and I know its Christmas and its a long way, but in a nutshell, Ross County, Peterhead, Airdrie Utd, Gretna, Annan (think thats the right order) are a big part of the problem.........we should be decreasing teams not increasing teams.

Thats Morton's first home game on a Saturday in two months !!!! No football club can run with that kind of revenue........When i think of teams like Ayr and Raith in Div 2 and I see what Livvy and RC have to offer from a paying at the gate perspective its proof that we should have TWO leagues in Scotland before we all die in the credit crunch !

To add a bit more fuel to the subject, I watched the Motherwell v Hamilton game on Sh1tanta! OMG the SPL is sh1te AND boring !!!!!!!

2 Leagues of 18 should just about cover it - last in first out cool.gif



(and thats fixtures - home/away/home/away etc etc NOT home/away/away/away/home/insert random fixture)




I suppose it's inevitable that a wee country like Scotland can no longer sustain so many 'professional' football clubs. We're going through an evolutionary process and it's really painful for the wee clubs.

Morton should be a big club. Once Rae goes we may move forward.

BTW CB-don't you think your wee piccy is now passe. Irons looks twice as old now! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-21 10:16:20


QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Dec 20 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]553154[/snapback]
Just in. Have to say we were outplayed at times by Ross County. Felt as if we were going to lose the equaliser anytime, thankfully didnt though. We need a right back, thought davie defended well but his distribution was poor. Took too long to think what pass to play, and then resulted in a hoof up the park. We created more chances, Wake was unlucky.

Reason for edit: Incase people start callin me a moanin face b*****d laugh.gif

Three points well needed in our conquest for SPL football laugh.gif mon the ton.

Correct-he's always a yard too slow.

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 20 2008, 05:38 PM) [snapback]553156[/snapback]
We need a right back. Ross County were a good passing team but brutal at the back, on another day we could have had six or seven without playing particularly well. Defensive lapses in conentration towards the end nearly cost us.
Relieved just to have got through very tricky opposition, so that we can tank the Nazis next week.

Correct-McGregor is a disaster.




QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Dec 20 2008, 11:19 PM) [snapback]553258[/snapback]
From what I saw today would make the following comments - thought McGregor did well (f*** you MJ) Smith was poor, Greacen was very good, Wake tried his heart out, Jenkins did well and Russell needs to bulk up a bit!! I also thought the Ref had a nightmare giving pishy decisions against both teams.


Would you really like to f*ck me darling? My Mummy lives in Dunoon and has a lovely big spare bedrooom where we could snuggle up together!

McGregor has been p*sh poor for the last four or five matches. He's far too slow, far too indecisive, and a past master of 'hit and hope' with an unnerving penchant for finding the 'rough'. What upsets me most is that the poor guy's trying his best and clearly thinks he's OK. Time for some honesty in the dressing room-why is he getting a game anyway-it STINKS of Rae interference again? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-21 10:24:32
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Dec 21 2008, 09:37 AM) [snapback]553383[/snapback]
I see your powers of interpretation disappeared during your absence. rolleyes.gif smile.gif

Ram your white stick up yer erse.
mortonjag 2008-12-21 10:29:33
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Dec 21 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]553388[/snapback]
Another fishing trip, Dr.? rolleyes.gif

Don't be a stupid child. Of course I'm not fishing. Irons is a bloody disaster of a Manager-and an arrogant dick with it IMO. His ego is going to get him into trouble again shortly unless I'm very much mistaken. I almost wish we'd stuck with JM now. crying.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-21 10:37:36 It is a tight league. It's also an extremely boring league full of defensive minded managers watching their backs and having P45 nightmares.

Airdrie have had a bad spell just as we did-maybe they're back on track. Will DI instruct the boys to go out and beat them? Will he set out his stall to play attacking football?

What do YOU think? 1eye.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-21 10:48:58 It is with great sadness that I report the passing of mouton, who was laid to rest yesterday.

One of our moderators requested that he be put to sleep! I suspect he may be afraid of foot in mouth disease to which moderators are particularly vulnerable at this time of year, and in any case I agree that there are far too many sheep on the forum.

Accordingly mouton was live spit roasted yesterday morning and will be found in several jobbies over the next few days.

His last words were:

It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to, than I have ever known.

mouton RIP.
mortonjag 2008-12-21 18:42:03
QUOTE(MrX @ Dec 21 2008, 01:42 PM) [snapback]553486[/snapback]
I thought you only posted when Morton got beat?

Mortonjag is regularly misjudged my friend! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-21 18:48:38




QUOTE(SramTon @ Dec 21 2008, 03:05 PM) [snapback]553530[/snapback]
There are certain shared personality traits which, allied with the surname and Dunoon link, led me to believe that the answer to my question would likely be positive. smile.gif

I hadn't realised it had previously been confirmed. Cheers Smithston and Ghost.

So is MJ also a short-ar5ed ginge?

Incidentally, I did once post about George Newall on Eddie's old board (I think probably the Rivals Net one) in quite uncomplimentary terms long before I knew MJ existed! ohmy.gif

George has never been involved in any way with any Morton website-official or otherwise. I can only assume your connection with him was at Port High where I hope he gave you a good tanning! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-21 18:59:07
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Dec 21 2008, 06:30 PM) [snapback]553625[/snapback]
Form tables for Division 1 make interesting viewing, but not if you're a QoS fan perhaps. NB - You'll need to navigate to Scottish Division 1 from the drop-down menu.biggrin.gif
http://weekendfootball.co.uk/statistics/form.asp

..............and your point is?

After we get humped by the Nazis it won't look so good.

The 'football' we have to endure under Irons is DIRE. I guess many fans are just hoping we survive this season and he's replaced by a manager.
mortonjag 2008-12-21 19:11:32 mouton was my little lamb
I used to hear him gruntin'
I'd like to get that Iron man
And ram his effin c*nt in smile.gif

mortonjag 2008-12-21 19:19:26
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 21 2008, 02:02 PM) [snapback]553500[/snapback]
Anyone else received this little beauty.

No woman will ever be truly happy,
because no man will ever have
a chocolate penis that
ejaculates money! !

Plenty of rich brown pr*cks around this neck o' the woods Barbie! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-21 19:28:45
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Dec 21 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]553634[/snapback]
Thank you for your usual positive and insightful contribution. By the way, I started this thread for genuine Morton fans, not bitter old men with an anti-Rae agenda. laugh.gif laugh.gif

I take it that your definition of a 'genuine' Ton fan is a sweet young man who loves old Shoogly to bits.

Are there many of you around those days, Anus?

Tonsilitis will be raging at you for publishing statistics without his prior consent.

I'm heartened to note that this unprecedented upturn in form at the hands of those two managerial maestri Irons and Collins has coincided with a trebling of gate receipts! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-21 19:38:56
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 21 2008, 04:05 PM) [snapback]553554[/snapback]
Loveless is just a Wemyss Bay resident with the local delusion of grandeur formed by seasonal inbreeding. That's not even a bite, that's just the facts.

Those are the facts SPARROT-and I strongly suspect that they are indeed not such, and that Loveless has a much better grasp of English grammar and syntax than your illiterate little self! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-21 20:34:08
QUOTE(scotia morton @ Dec 21 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]553663[/snapback]
I think your a negative idiot!

Perhaps son-but I can spell. Now run along! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-21 20:45:24
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Dec 21 2008, 07:46 PM) [snapback]553653[/snapback]
I think most fair-minded posters on here will appreciate that the downturn in attendances is probably more down to the current economic climate than anything else. Still, don't let the facts get in the way of a good story MJ - you rarely do.

Don't talk sh*te anus-folk still pay to be entertained!

QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Dec 21 2008, 07:54 PM) [snapback]553656[/snapback]
Your really are boring MJ. We get another good win & you spout of nonsense like this and say we are going to humped next week off a team who are marooned by 6 points at the bottom of the league. Your anti-everything Morton stance is absolutely grating. Any chance you could dissappear from the board for another while?

Would that be disappear? dry.gif

QUOTE(vespaton @ Dec 21 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]553658[/snapback]
Well done SmithsTON,

I'm glad someone has posted their appreciation of DI and DC. I predict this management team will take us to the SPL, maybe not this season but next, like I predicted they would get us off the bottom and gain control of the players.

Of course this fell on deaf ears on here and I received pelters for siding with the management team.

BP.

I predict you'll never make any money as a fortune teller! laugh.gif

QUOTE(scotia morton @ Dec 21 2008, 08:11 PM) [snapback]553661[/snapback]
Life was so much better when you stayed away from this forum! Get a life who ever you are!

I have a wonderful life. Would you like to hear about it son?

QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Dec 21 2008, 08:14 PM) [snapback]553664[/snapback]
His name is Ernie Newall, a bitter, twisted old man who imagines he was a GP in another life. He's also insanely jealous of DDF Rae for some reason. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Don't be silly Anus-though I do agree that anybody who's jealous of that wittering old fud must surely be insane.

QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Dec 21 2008, 08:29 PM) [snapback]553671[/snapback]
Did McManus not fill in for Shimmin alongside Greacen? Apparently he done what he to do and thats all you can ask for.
MJ nae offence but have you ever been positive after a result we get? We will not get humped off the "nazis" and yes, the football may be dire at times but as someone said i would rather win ugly than lose playin good football. Look at Ross County they played some nice stuff but they lost. At the end of the day its the 3 points that matter not how they are achieved imo. Im sure the Ross County fans would have agreed.

I have indeed my friend. I thought we played very well against Dunfermline recently, and said so. I also believe that Airdrie have turned the corner, and have every chance of beating us UNLESS Irons goes for three points. Perhaps Spoonsy back up front will help. I DO hope we win!


mortonjag 2008-12-21 20:48:58
QUOTE(SramTon @ Dec 21 2008, 08:14 PM) [snapback]553665[/snapback]
Nah, he never gave me a tanning (or much else for that matter). smile.gif

There was a thread years ago (not started by me) along the lines of worst, or least favourite, teachers. I alluded to three (I don't think I actually named them), with GN achieving bronze. To be fair to George, the other two were streets ahead (or should that be behind?) him.

I know some of my peers had plenty of time for George. I didn't, but there you go. sad.gif

Fair enough-he can be quite annoying at times-totally unlike me.

Incidentally you may not know that he has endured a long illness which caused him to retire from teaching some twenty years ago.
mortonjag 2008-12-21 20:50:58
QUOTE(scotia morton @ Dec 21 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]553668[/snapback]
Yawn yawn yawn!! have you ever wrote anything positive about being a Morton Supporter? Go away and take your Monkey with you!

Written. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-21 20:54:28
QUOTE(scotia morton @ Dec 21 2008, 08:51 PM) [snapback]553690[/snapback]
I have a wonderful life. Would you like to hear about it son?

Its been over 30 years since I could referred to as son!
Your life is that good that you spend a lot of it writing over 26000 crap posts on this website.

Humble apologies. I'm afraid I'm only able to assess posters on their posts, and yours are certainly infantile! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-21 20:58:15
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 21 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]553679[/snapback]
Yet you still can't space those pesky dashes. rolleyes.gif

Pesky dashes-what are you talking about?
mortonjag 2008-12-21 21:01:58
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Dec 21 2008, 08:55 PM) [snapback]553695[/snapback]
You trying to tell me Irons does not ever go for the 3 points?
Irons: Right lads we only need the 1 point today so thats all we want to go for.
Airdrie are pish. They looked awful against us at Cappielow, so their chances of beating us are slim to say the least. Spoonsy will not get back up front instantly. Wake has been doing good and alongside Grady that should be our front two imo.

That's right-they were apparently pish yesterday! I'll be delighted if we beat them. I don't understand why so many seem to be taking it for granted that we will, and Irons IS the most negative manager we've had in decades.
mortonjag 2008-12-21 21:05:16

QUOTE(forza ton @ Dec 21 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]553703[/snapback]
it's time to ban this c***. i wish he wasn't a morton supporter.

laugh.gif

....and he wishes you had a brain!
mortonjag 2008-12-21 21:09:38
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 21 2008, 07:35 PM) [snapback]553647[/snapback]
So, when are you planning to out all the others then?

OK Peter-I confess-I'm Spot Ton, and Ron Number. That'll do for starters! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-21 21:18:31
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Dec 21 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]553709[/snapback]
Airdrie haven't won in eight league games and we have won 6 of our last eight league games, but MJ reckons Airdrie have 'turned the corner' and will 'hump' us next Saturday. Does anyone still believe this guy's a Morton fan? :blink:

What a ridiculous question Anus. Mortonjag was supporting the Ton long before you were born. I'm simply being realistic, and you'll have egg all over your Shooglyphilic mug if we succumb to the Nazis!

Anybody with an ounce of perception acknowledges that that is perfectly probable. Maybe it's time for you to grow up and accept that we ain't very good right now.
mortonjag 2008-12-22 09:06:42 Gentlemen I urgently require a reply!

I have just been informed elsewhere that 'if I don't stop takin' the piss, I'll be banned'. huh.gif

It's got me terribly confused. I've been banned briefly for calling somebody a 'pouffe'-fair enough-people don't like being lowered to the level of soft furnishings-I concede that I was WAY out of line there-oh and Tontastic once banned me for being rude to Mrs Manchesterton, but that misunderstanding was cleared up, and we're now good friends!

So my question to you worthy sages is this:


Should 'takin' the piss' on an unofficial footie forum be an offence worthy of a ban?


You'll already have sussed the background story I imagine. wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-23 09:21:29
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 22 2008, 04:04 PM) [snapback]554023[/snapback]
Who has said that to you dear Dr?

f***ing shocking if they ban anyone for taking the pish, sometimes the only thing worth doing on this site is take the piss. This is now turning to a vendetta against you as some quite clearly don't like you and cannot take the piss taking. My advice would be to crank up the piss taking to a level that will have them boiling inside. biggrin.gif

Exactly Barbie-and thanks to you all for some words of sanity. I was informed by the new Mod that I had to stick to one identity so poor wee mouton became a sacrificial lamb at the weekend. Sensing that I was about to lose mouton I had had intercourse with the said Mod and thought he gave me a reasonably easy ride (for a Mod)! Lo and behold, I logged on yesterday to this:



I've had several (justified) complaints about you today. Please follow the forum rules and, to be blunt, stop taking the piss or I'll have to ban you.

GKR.

I attempted further intercourse with the said Mod but he has, to date, failed to respond to my advances. I find that strange after him telling me this previously:


Don't worry about it, any reports of rule breaking / personal abuse will be taken seriously without any biased opinions from now on
.


Well gentlemen, I just happened to mention to him that my brother George's name had been dragged onto the forum in a rather unpleasant context by one of the said vendetta. As Ghost knows, George was a well respected local teacher who had to retire prematurely on account of a chronic debilitating illness. George is a Ton supporter but is not able to attend matches, and has never used any of the forums.

I found that a bit distasteful, but I wouldn't have dreamt of mentioning it except in the context of the fledgling Mod's threat.

I also commented thus to him:


I frankly can't be arsed pestering you, but if this is the way we're going to be playing it I'll be copying and pasting about a dozen posts later today with a specific complaint about each-and that's just from yesterday's mailbox. I can't tell you how to do your job, but it might be a good idea to 'get the feel' of my interactions with others before you do anything heavy handed.



What I find rather strange is that I've had no response to my latter comments, and it leaves me in something of a limbo.

Should I risk a wee piss take some time soon-d'ye think. If I suddenly disappear, you'll all know what has happened. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-23 11:47:55 If it's put together in typical Morton fashion I'd suggest it be called the AULD SHOOGLY stand.

Apologies in advance to anyone who feels I am 'takin' the piss'! oops.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-23 12:24:20 Many many many thanks to Scotia Morton for giving mortonjag some rare and much needed publicity.

As it's the Season of goodwill, I was going to return the compliment but I don't think anybody has a clue who he is.

No matter-merry Christmas to you Scotia and to all my other readers! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-23 12:32:29
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Dec 23 2008, 11:23 AM) [snapback]554362[/snapback]
He was never threatened with a ban from the moderators of this particular forum. Willowman's feeble attempts are nowhere, NOWHERE, near ban worthy in here.

Willy man is a good chap!


(guess that's me banned for life) biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-23 12:35:28
QUOTE(rafa the spic @ Dec 23 2008, 12:28 PM) [snapback]554412[/snapback]
Why cant we afford it, Its scrap and you bought it, 8th in the SPL, new stadium, new training ground under construction, yeah its all going wrong for us blush.gif

yeah forgot to say 9.7 m in the bank, times are tough

Very true, but unlike us your Chairman is a smelly keech.
mortonjag 2008-12-23 12:38:10
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Dec 23 2008, 11:46 AM) [snapback]554382[/snapback]
Well the Club Programme has it as 3032 and they should know I guess. rolleyes.gif

Absolutely.
mortonjag 2008-12-23 12:39:53
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Dec 22 2008, 01:46 PM) [snapback]553948[/snapback]
Morton, and some fans who helped, overcame the problems caused by absolutely torrential rain on a day when the main roads into Greenock were closed by flooding.

And you come out with this drivel.

What would you have said had the game been postponed due to the water ingress??

Time to go, moronjag. you're embarrassing yourself now.

I'm very sorry to have upset you.
mortonjag 2008-12-24 09:05:34
QUOTE(SramTon @ Dec 23 2008, 09:56 PM) [snapback]554697[/snapback]
Several points:

1. I don't, and never have had a vendetta against you. The only time I have mentioned you to anyone connected with these boards is in the context of open posts on these forums and in the expectation they would be read by you. To my recollection have never said you should be banned. I have in the past mentioned that I find 98% of your posts pointless and repetitive, but not because I have a vendetta against you - simply that 98% of your posts are IMHO pointless and repetitive.

2. I asked the question whether you were related to George because: I was aware of the shared surname, I knew George lived in Dunoon and you very recently mentioned Dunoon, and I noticed some shared traits. I was genuinely interested to know if you were related.

3. It is a fact that about 6-7 years ago I was one of dozens of posters who contributed to a thread on a predecessor of this board about worst teachers, least favourite teachers, or some sort. I recall alluding to three teachers, one of whom was your brother. I made passing mention of this in my recent post, in what was intended to be a jocular manner, when I learned you were indeed related.

4. I was not aware that George had a chronic debilitating illness. I was genuinelly saddened to learn of this and posted to this effect. I apologise if any distress has been caused to George by his name being dragged up. My mental image of George is the man I knew 20-odd years ago when he was perhaps a fairer target. I will be happy to send him a personal email of apology if appropriate.

5. That said, on the basis we agree that it was wrong of me to negatively comment upon your brother on a board which he has no association with, I am not entirely convinced it was necessary for you to make further public mention of the matter (on a separate forum) in order to advance your own point. I understand (and appreciate) the point you are making, but surely it would have been more appropriate in the context to have made it privately?


Don't get yer knickers in a twist-I only cited your trivial peccadillo in the context of the total pettiness of the Mod's cow towing to anonymous creeps, while ignoring the publication of innocent identities with additional comments. I know you've never forgiven me for exposing you as a pseudo lawyer, but it's Christmas and a time for love and jollity, so here's a wee choon to brighten up your day, and if you're into a shag I can fit you in this afternoon!


come along children and join uncle mortonjag

wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-24 09:29:50
QUOTE(Muz @ Dec 24 2008, 09:07 AM) [snapback]554817[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-12-24 09:54:40
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Dec 23 2008, 12:00 PM) [snapback]554395[/snapback]
true - he'll never be as successful as Dougie Rae, will he?? laugh.gif

Who is Dougie Rae?

QUOTE(scotia morton @ Dec 23 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]554500[/snapback]
I dont hate MJ, just do not like his views and constant negativity of most things Morton. Plus I find it hard to believe that he really is a Morton fan!

So does mortonjag this weather! dry.gif

QUOTE(scotia morton @ Dec 23 2008, 03:02 PM) [snapback]554507[/snapback]
Hi MJ, I do not care if many on here actually know who I am! There are a few and they will know that Ive supported Morton for the last 30+ years. I do not seek praise nor do I seek attention. I am glad that you enjoyed the publicity, it must have brightened up your unfullfilled lifestyle. I mean what else do you actually do apart from writing over 26000 posts on a website?

Anyway point of the original post was just to see how many other posters had similar opinions than me in the fact that your presence on this forum is boring and annoying at times! From the replies it seems that people agree and some dont!

oh! And I dont care if there are speeling mistooks in the above repliy!!

Have a great xmas old man!


I find the odd wee thing to do Scotia-just finished fully refurbishing a friend's flat-that's why I was off the forum for a couple of months!

Here's another piccy of Mummy's new kitchen-everything from ripping out the old one to completion was done by my goodself and my two sons (also pictured).

Have a belter of a Christmas!

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mortonjag 2008-12-24 10:22:39 Would the daft old octogenarian Kraut not be better taking his gripe up with the boss?


He's plainly far too ugly to ever have got his hole from man or beast.

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mortonjag 2008-12-24 13:37:03
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Dec 23 2008, 12:38 PM) [snapback]554419[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif EXCLUSIVE - "Moronjag Admits to being a Smelly Keech".......

....... so nice to get the chance to correct the auld fud on a matter of grammar!! tongue.gif

Wrong as always! dry.gif


Unlike us (we who are associated with Morton and who are not smelly keechs) your Chairman is a smelly keech.

You'll be telling me how to treat your mittelsmerz next.
mortonjag 2008-12-24 13:51:34
QUOTE(Loveless @ Dec 24 2008, 12:59 PM) [snapback]554891[/snapback]
Why is anyone surprised by this?

Both Christian scripture and the Catholic Church openly distain the practice of homosexuality.

The Church teaches us to love the sinner, hate the sin, judge the action but not the person.

I dont think the Pope has launched a personal attack on every homosexual person in the world, far from it. He is concerned that the rise of the aggresive pro gay lobby (along with the pro-choice and anti-marriage types) are ruining the very fabric of our society, and I for one agree with him. I am a Catholic, but to be honest, this has never been a religious issue for me.

There is nothing normal about homosexuality, I don't need my Catholic faith to establish that fact, it comes from natural law. This modern nonsense that everone is different and that consenting adults should be left to do what they please is harmful in my opinion. We are our brother's keeper after all.

I'd suggest that there are FAR more serious issues in that respect. Homosexuality is 'abnormal' just as is left handedness. There is undoubtedly a genetic element in both. Neither is an 'illness' in the accepted sense of the word.

Little children used to be punished for writing with the left hand-ostracised and made to feel abnormal and dirty.

I, for one, am thankful that we have moved on in that respect, though I'd still be happy to tan the living daylight out of every POUFFE in the country for a bowl of Kellogs' Crunchie Nuts.
mortonjag 2008-12-24 14:06:14
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 24 2008, 11:41 AM) [snapback]554864[/snapback]
Merry Xmas to everyone

Did you have to add your personalised card? Your deer wife DOES look ever so much younger than you. laugh.gif

Anyway, a happy Christmas to you. I guess the prosperous New Year's a foregone in the current economic climate. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-24 14:47:24
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 24 2008, 02:15 PM) [snapback]554913[/snapback]
Theree is nothing remotely offensive in his speech to anyone bar those who make a career out of being offended. For example, Stonewall...
IMO, homosexuality should be treated as 'different and equal' rather than the aggressive pro-gay lobby's attempts to make it 'normal and equal'. In biological terms it is a clear 'fault' in genetic hardwiring.

'Genetic hardwiring'! That's a first for me though I see where you're coming from. In reproductive terms, homosexuality may undoubtedly be seen as a 'fault', or, as another poster suggested, perhaps a boon for our overpopulated planet.

Reproduction, of course, is the real issue for the Catholic Church. The concept is that the faithful must f*ck furiously and proliferate abundantly. Anything which mitigates against that is perceived to be 'sinful'. Anyway, I have a sneaking suspicion that many of the Holy Father's associates have left the Vatican singing 'Benny dicked us'.
mortonjag 2008-12-27 08:36:53 Oh well-another Saturday morning breaks grey and cold. I DO hope the game's on today-Airdrie's very high above sea level and there's been overnight frost in Glasgow.

Our recent form has been better, but even over the last six games AWAY we're only mid table. Irons is not attack minded at the best of times and away from home he's a bloody nightmare.

Airdrie had a great result last weekend-in that respect you could say THEY are the form team.

We shall see, but I promise one thing-if the TON win by playing exciting attacking football, I shall post a wee picture of my left testicle on the Jesse Boys forum.

Why not here?

I'd hate to frighten the children. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-27 08:56:16
QUOTE(centralTON @ Dec 22 2008, 07:54 PM) [snapback]554140[/snapback]
Had an excellent cup in Kember and Jones on Byres Road yesterday. tongue.gif

Not exactly sure if this is a dig at me or at Graham?

If me, why again?

But the strangest part for me is that you called me Franco! Most of my mates through here call me Franco, but, no one from the forum has ever called me that. blink.gif

Are you my secret stalker?, I've always wanted one. laugh.gif

Guess the secret's out Franco. I love you big man-you are SO handsome.

Do you like soor plooms perchance? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-27 09:05:10 It all sounds very exciting. It's nice to have something to be excited about. The way things normally go under Rae we could end up with the poshest stadium in the third division. biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-27 09:21:54 This is a game we SHOULD win. That makes me entirely confident Irons will blow it again. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-27 09:44:43


QUOTE(midTONs @ Dec 26 2008, 11:44 AM) [snapback]555443[/snapback]
Chissi, my believes and views on homosexuality don't come solely from my Christian beliefs and upbringing, they are of my own doing, the act disgusts me, simple as that.


You ain't obliged to watch! laugh.gif

mortonjag 2008-12-27 09:59:59
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 27 2008, 09:41 AM) [snapback]555745[/snapback]
Breaking forum rules!!!!

Wait til mortonjag sees what the old mod was up to ohmy.gif

Wait till the new Mod discovers mortonjag is puggsy ton! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-27 11:46:00 Nothing wrong with the strikers we've got-just that the supply is abysmal, so what difference will another make? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-27 11:53:47





THE DIAMONDS FACE MORTON THIS AFTERNOON
Date Posted : 27/12/2008
Despite a heavy ground frost, the pitch covers have kept the pitch soft underneath.

We will leave the covers down as late as we can to protect the pitch but we would appreciate your assistance if you can help to lift the covers at around 12.30pm

Many thanks.


Well, I guess we just have to believe that and hope some fanny of a Referee doesn't disagree! ph34r.gif


mortonjag 2008-12-27 11:57:54
QUOTE(Ghost @ Dec 27 2008, 11:54 AM) [snapback]555780[/snapback]
Fixed that for you MJ.

TY-is he one of the new breed of super duper refs?
mortonjag 2008-12-27 12:06:32 Mortonjag is now the proud possessor of a new state of the art wireless keyboard on which he can type three times more quickly. Also a year's supply of Primark incontinence knickers, a pair of new baffies and a bottle of Old Spice after shave.
mortonjag 2008-12-27 13:01:02
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Dec 27 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]555793[/snapback]
Santa was good then

I hear that they are pretty good - and reversible!

Indeed-unlike C & A's knickers which are clearly marked C & A!
mortonjag 2008-12-27 13:06:18
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Dec 27 2008, 12:59 PM) [snapback]555797[/snapback]
I hear you think even Finlayson has delivered more crosses than McAllister this season. People are criticising Smith and MacGregor for lacking going foward but they shouldn't be the main attacking threat .

It's a sad day when you find yourself applauding either superkev or Jimbo for actually managing to get a cross over-no matter where it ends up!!! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-27 13:18:58 Just like everybody else this news has me wetting my incontinence knickers in excitement. Is he not the guy who is so fast that he puts over the crosses for himself, and runs onto his own through balls?

Honestly I can't believe it if it's true. We'll be top of the league by the end of January. It must be the best news since our last unbelievable signing! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-27 13:29:28
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 27 2008, 01:21 PM) [snapback]555803[/snapback]
Did you not have a nice Xmas or sumthin ? dry.gif

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I had a wonderful Christmas, thanks Spurtle-and I hope you had too.

It just seems typical of Dunderheid DI's blinkered approach that he'd sign yet another striker to fire long balls at!

There's nothing wrong with Spoonsy, Wakey, or Leafy, and Brian Graham's waiting in the wings. All of those guys will get goals if they have enough opportunity. It's utterly typical of our excitement starved fans that they start coming in their short pants at the news of ANY OLD signing-I can hardly blame them.

Here's hopin' Spoonsy gets a hat trick today! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-27 13:34:27
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 27 2008, 01:27 PM) [snapback]555806[/snapback]
And they find out puggsy ton is greatkingrat ohmy.gif

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And the biggest expose of course that Davie McArthur is actually Professor Piehole! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-28 10:34:30
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 27 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]556040[/snapback]
OK, that's three point lost which should have been three points gained -- or at least a point! For the first 20-25 minutes we cut through their defence like a hot knife through butter. We just lacked the killer touch. At this point Weatherson was missing nothing - he won every header and generally held the ball up excellently. If we had a a real striker playing off him we would have scored plenty!

They recovered a bit and Cuthbert had one good and a couple of routine saves. Young Smith who was having one of his best games to that point including overlapping McAllister several times - yes! a Morton full back getting forward!! - then made his howler. Cuthbert exacerbated the problem by getting himself sent off when, as others have said, it would have been better if, having missed the ball, he just let the guy score. The way we were playing we would have scored two at least!

Anyway, in a fit of anger, Irons pulls Smith and put on Stewart which was half right. I don't know how many noticed but Smith got back to the dugout and got absolute fits from Irons. I'm guessing that the boy will never make the same mistake again!

After the break we go to 3-4-2 which was not silly. Airdrie just did not have the firepower to trouble us much although they did use their extra man to get up to the penalty box quite a lot. Their shooting though was woeful and Stewart made one save and watched one other shot go a yard past the post in the entire half. Much credit to McAllister and Finlayson who both worked very hard to be both fullbacks and wingers after the sending off.

Having said all that, our midfield created very little and we persisted the whole half with long high balls. Even that might have worked if Jenkins had been a bit sharper. We had a move used a couple of times where Weatherson headed the long high ball down to Grady who flicked it through for Jenkins running on to it and he could have scored 2/3 times from this move! Generally though, Jenkins was poor today. He is not a ball winner and if he is to be part of the team we need someone like Paartalu or McGuffie on as well. Masterton was also poor although he won more challenges than Jenkins. Those two in the middle together does not work. They are both decent players on the ball but we need a ball winner alongside.

I would add that I was disappointed in Irons today as he had McGuffie on the bench and I thought using him to replace Jenkins or Masterton was the way to go but he did not. Instead we got Wake on for Grady and after that we never looked like scoring!

So, all in all, a very disappointing day and basically a match we should have won. On the plus side, I can't see Airdrie being anything other than relegation fodder but we could and should have climbed the league today.




And so it goes full circle to his post Dundee rants about Newby which appeared to catalyse a dressing room revolt. It's slightly eerie to think that the last time the Nazis humped us in Germany, Irons was within an inch of his P45, McManus, Jenkins, and Weatherson wanted away', and we went into free fall to the bottom of the league.

Grady's eleventh hour arrival provided our 'Manager' with some respite. He bandaged over the chronic sore that is Irons' 'Man Management'. Yesterday the blood and pus started to seep though again! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-28 14:45:56 Credit due to Irons and Collins for the dramatic change in our fortunes relative to this time last year.? Apparently so if you care to listen to the protagonists on the previous thread. Do they know something we don't! wub.gif

Despite extra money to put together his small squad of quality players, I'm afraid that in comparison to the success of JM (at this point last season)--under this marvellous new regime-


WE ARE WORSE OFF


Which begs the question!


Time to go Davie? ph34r.gif




mortonjag 2008-12-29 10:16:25
QUOTE(forza ton @ Dec 29 2008, 01:04 AM) [snapback]556537[/snapback]
our position according to mj is worse than last season. i would say on the whole we are in ruder health than at any time in the last ten years. i think we're making progress (albeit gradual) on and off the park. remember 10 years ago under scott? we may have occupied a higher position in the league (haven't checked but i'm sure i'm right - jonaton or savo might help smile.gif ) but this was due to to pyrrhic victories under journeymen and youths and we all knew where we were heading.

all this negativity pains me guys!!!

so here is an honest, once and for all question to mortonjag - what would you do differently? what are your answers? other than abusing other posters and the current management and board, what would you do?

no pink fonts, no recriminations, no saying "you're not very bright" etc

you've had manifold threads about you and here's another -
as a morton fan what would you do?
edited cos it looked like i was posting on behalf of all other posters.

Here is a genuinely honest response.

Try reading those manifold threads in which mortonjag has made manifold suggestions and recommendations.

Mortonjag can now spot another personal attack more easily than full blown measles.

I hope I've said nothing above which you find insulting or offensive. If indeed I have I suggest you take it up with mortonjag, rather than clyping to the mods.

mortonjag 2008-12-29 10:30:21
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Dec 28 2008, 03:09 PM) [snapback]556274[/snapback]
After 18 league games last season we had accumulated 21 points, this season we are on 22 points. As usual, the twisted, bitter old fud that is MJ is wrong again. Pathetic really. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

As usual you get the wrong end of the stick Anus.

Here's what mortonjag said:


Credit due to Irons and Collins for the dramatic change in our fortunes relative to this time last year.
?

Now -check Jonaton's excellent blog, and you'll find that we were third bottom. This morning we sit second bottom-and before you start, I'm merely quoting statistics which is exactly what YOU did with the original post.

....and here's a wee memory jog for your goodself, 75% of posters had 'complete confidence' in JM until---well--erm-humph--almost until this time last year! dry.gif

Which begs the question again!


TTG Davie?
mortonjag 2008-12-29 10:41:28
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Dec 29 2008, 10:07 AM) [snapback]556581[/snapback]
Boll*x

WE don't need a new manager!

We need stability amongst the team. We can't go changing the bllody management team every 5 minutes just because the appear out of favour!!!

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We most certainly need a good manager and have not had one under Shoogly.

I agree that changing manager at this time in the season is dodgy-we did it with JM- God tossed him a 40k sweetener in a used Millions bag, and made the catch of the century by beating 50 other clubs for the signatures of DI and DC! Since then it's been up and up and up! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-29 17:21:54
QUOTE(forza ton @ Dec 29 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]556590[/snapback]
shat out of it again rolleyes.gif

i've never spoke to a moderator on here regarding anyone.

Mortonjag did not state that you had my dear chap, nor has mortonjag 'shat out' of anything. You are perfectly entitled to believe that all in the garden is rosy. The fact that it is plainly not so has been evident to many posters for a long time-mainly to posters who appear to have the ability to think clearly. Having an instant solution is not a prerequisite for making valid criticisms, and it's perfectly clear that we'll never advance in real terms on the strength of Golden Casket.

Our current situation is anything but enviable-you and I have previously agreed that Morton are potentially a very successful provincial club, yet we're sitting second bottom of the league and playing boring and negative football under yet another of Rae's rookie managers. I believe we'll do well to get a draw tomorrow night. I'd LOVE us to get three points by playing attractive attacking football!

A defeat, and the knives will be out for DI-mark my words! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-29 17:43:30 I appear to have made some crucial error of judgement. Perhaps somebody will confirm that we ARE second bottom of the league. Perhaps somebody will confirm that Mr Irons was within a whisker of being booted out of Cappielow with the approval of the vast majority of fans. I honestly can't believe the excitement about a bargain basement reject to house three or four away fans in the second division. What's THAT all about? Oh and it's no change in the Director's box I notice-one Trusty goes and his sidekick steps up to be patronised by God!!! Poor Stuart is to 'foster relations with the fans' with that old fud destroying them faster than the weans teeth! HUMBUG.

Nothing has REALLY changed, and nothing will until Shoogly shoots the crow-it's perfectly simple. Again I ask-what is AD playing at?

This thread has produced the usual knee jerking loyalty from the insiders. I guess they are more to be pitied than anything else.

Stunning victory in prospect tomorrow night gentlemen? biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-29 17:54:19 Morton 4 Thistle 0 bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-29 18:05:57 As mortonjag has now stated several times he was otherwise occupied for a couple of months. Mortonjag is even better at DIY than he is at winding up the innocent-indeed there is virtually nothing mortonjag cannot do and do well.

After we are defeated tomorrow night, you can all toddle homeward to think again.

Meanwhile, here's a wee choon for the faithful


voila!
mortonjag 2008-12-29 18:21:05
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 29 2008, 06:08 PM) [snapback]556735[/snapback]
Top class joiner then doc. laugh.gif



Oh indeed Barbie-I'm as comfy with a chisel as a scalpel.

I'm slightly puzzled mind you-why was this very typical anti-Jag thread not started in General Nonsense?

I thought the idea was that the Jesse Boys understood the concept of 'fun'! ph34r.gif

Of course I could say lots of nasty things in return about the originator-only the eerie feeling that he's posted seriously holds me back.

I've long since refrained from mocking the mentally disadvantaged. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-29 18:50:59
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 29 2008, 06:06 PM) [snapback]556734[/snapback]
The game. wink.gif

He may well have misjudged the Shooglemeister's longevity. What with his healthy lifestyle and the Rev Dave's ministrations, I can see him lasting another twenty years or more.

Just think, we could be unfurling the new third division championship flag in 2028, as the May Hughes Roly Polys wobble to the strains of 'Live is Life' and Shoogly zooms round the track on his super chipped mobility scooter exhorting the fifty three fans to 'bring a friend'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-29 19:14:59 Poor Smiffy is getting a really hard time, which is a shame. Let's face it, he's never a full back, even if he's a country mile ahead of McGregor in that respect. The boy does have football in him and I reckon he'll be OK for the future. He made a mistake which proved very costly for a side which can't score goals in the first place, because the Manager doesn't believe in 'attack'. No wonder Mr Irons went totally loopy and pulled the boy off! dry.gif

Sometimes his 'ils ne passeront pas' approach pays off and we score a couple of goals-that was ALL that happened in the recent 'up and up' scenario. The football, however, is DIRE! ph34r.gif

He appears to be a useless man manager, and an even worse tactician. Ultimately he has to carry the can for another defeat. Smith made one crucial error. The 'Manager' has been making them all season.
mortonjag 2008-12-29 19:30:48
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Dec 27 2008, 03:17 PM) [snapback]555830[/snapback]
I heard this rumour a few weeks ago. Would be a good signing imo.

MJ, u need to get a grip & stop bad-mouthing the club in any way possible!! I used to agree with alot of ur posts, but they're gettin ridiculous now!! dry.gif

I only call it as I see it. What would you like me to 'good mouth' the club for, and I promise to try my hardest?

QUOTE(Ghost @ Dec 28 2008, 10:34 PM) [snapback]556482[/snapback]
I heard a wee rumour, McAllister is offski, SPL

That'll be after superkev joins Arsenal! dry.gif

QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Dec 29 2008, 12:57 PM) [snapback]556634[/snapback]
I'd be cautious about approaching Grady on an extended deal, unless of course we plan on searching out another (better) striker.

His impact has certainly been limited past a goal and an assist in his first couple of games.

If it hadn't been for Grady, Irons would be a distant memory. I'd swap the two of them right now-Grady for player Manager and DI to play either wing because he couldn't be worse than the sh*t 'wingers' he fields.
mortonjag 2008-12-29 19:46:20
QUOTE(Deego @ Dec 26 2008, 03:07 AM) [snapback]555367[/snapback]
again.

[youtube]3Ii8m1jgn_M[/youtube]

Discuss.

not according to this guy!
mortonjag 2008-12-30 09:40:29
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Dec 29 2008, 07:44 PM) [snapback]556773[/snapback]
It was - and one of the mods, in their infinite wisdom - moved it to here.

Six and half a dozen to be honest, you're getting enough attention from some of your detractors in both houses it would seem !

You know how to be a big tease at times MJ !

TonInDublin

I disagree!

Remember the incident which spawned the Jesse Boys forum?

Remember the catalyst-a little chap whose regular attempts to have Jaggy banned had failed?

He is one of about half a dozen posters who cannot see that THEIR egos are hugely larger than this humble poster's.

I don't believe the Jesse Boys forum is the place for wanton Jag bashing, and I exhort you to implement your own rules and protect the innocent.



mortonjag is






INNOCENT




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mortonjag 2008-12-30 10:02:02
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Dec 30 2008, 09:38 AM) [snapback]556888[/snapback]
Spurtle.....one of mj's favourite words!!!!

I wonder!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is there no end to wanton Jag attacks?

Mortonjag's Spurtle and good jousting friend is Colkitto-a.k.a Claymore C*ck, Bannock Baws, Haggis Heid and others long since forgotten.

I'm sure our new spurtle will be happy to confirm another flight of fancy. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-30 10:07:15
QUOTE(ayrton @ Dec 30 2008, 10:01 AM) [snapback]556907[/snapback]
Mmmm won't be the first time I have travelled 40 miles to have it called off 15 min before kick off. Fingers crossed. Maybe they had Mortonjag spouting hot air on it overnight which would explain why it's playable.

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Yet another uninvited Jag attack-oh dear!

Anyway it's still -4C up here in the smoke. 'No inspection planned' means just what it says. Unfortunately it guarantees absolutely nothing. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-30 10:21:07
QUOTE(El gofer @ Dec 30 2008, 02:22 AM) [snapback]556854[/snapback]
I have to say MJ, that I must def go to games with a much different mindset to yourself.

Myself and my two pals who I attend the games with, have endless debates about the team, often disagreeing with each other. We both criticise elements of the team and also of the club. We are also able to see good points in players and the club. I have had the line "McAlister is the club's most sellable asset" thrown back at me numerous times from the two of them who dont rate Jim for example. I must say he has not been such an asset this term, but thats by the by.

There are elements of DDFR I could criticise, his attitude to the youth set up for instance. I genuinely believe he is a Morton fan though.

Surely everything cant be as black and white as you suggest MJ?

I was not a major DI fan at the start of the season, but am willing to give him the season. He appears to have the team a bit more organised, and is getting good performances from players we questioned earlier like Greacen and Jenkins. I would say the Kev or "Special K" as a certain "huge fan" of his calls him (PH!!!) has worked his way to being a very valuable squad member.

We need cover/new blood in the full back region. I would love us to be safe with 2 or 3 games left and give the boy from the 19s a wee run. I would also love to see the 17s and 15s teams develop.

There are positives MJ. Wur shuuuurely no totally doooommmddd!!!



What a pleasure to read a post attacking my views without allusions to incontinence, colostomy bags etc. With regard to the latter, I do hope the perpetrator of that latest stupidity hasn't upset anybody afflicted by or related to somebody with bowel cancer. Posters appear on occasion to take flight of their senses in an attempt to hurt this innocent old man.

Of course we're not totally doomed. Alistair Donald is patiently waiting in the wings - watching the current catalogue of catastrophes with a wry smile. I can't help thinking he's flinging the odd bung to baby Rae just to keep up some semblance of improvement, while letting the villain of the piece slowly strangle in his own incompetence.

We're into our eighth year under the Shoogly regime Gofer, and we're second bottom of the league and COULD still be relegated.

THAT'S THE SIZE OF IT! blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-30 10:42:17
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Dec 30 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]556915[/snapback]
How on earth can you rate Harding better than Smith this season, what have you been watching this season?? huh.gif
Will i ever get to read a thread without this guy being mentioned, so annoying
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It really is-I agree wholeheartedly, and wish they'd just let the Jag say his bit. It's surely supposed to be about different opinions!

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mortonjag 2008-12-30 10:54:24
QUOTE(scotia morton @ Dec 29 2008, 11:30 PM) [snapback]556821[/snapback]
And as you are a Non Morton Fan, I bet you hope we do lose!



How dare you suggest that mortonjag is not a Ton fan-what RIGHT have you to judge other people's loyalty. If mortonjag did not care so passionately about a club he's supported through thick and thin for over fifty years, why would he bother bestowing his unsurpassed intelligence on this humble massage board-populated as it appears to be, largely by viperous numbskulls.

I'll be there tonight-IF it's on, and I'll be cheering and shouting as loudly as the next man scotia. Nothing would please me more than a convincing victory. That DOESN'T mean I have to join the Happy Clappies and assume it's going to happen.
mortonjag 2008-12-30 11:18:13
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Dec 30 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]556936[/snapback]
There's none of us saying any different though !

And remember, you have parliamentary privilege in here - so you can say what you really like to your detractors.

Indeed, given that the lead in to this thread is "What an asshole" - and it is aimed squarley at you - and it has been deemed OK in here - then I would suggest you could fill your boots with your reply without fear of retribution.

At least thats how it's meant to work.

Don't think anyone has ever been banned from the Jesse. At least I don't know of anyone who has.

TonInDublin

You have made 2008 for me TiD. For 364 days I've been tiptoeing about on eggshells, terrified of retribution from the mighty Mods, and now I can truly let rip and say what I REALLY think!

I tried very hard to get angry at MrX, but he's really a pathetic wee soul who neither knows who he is or where he comes from.

Residents of Peterbrough don't normally speak like this


Hardly saw a single post from Morton Jag during the Ton's recent superb run of results, now they've came to an unfortunate end he's back on his keyboard like a tramp on a poke of chips... what an asshole.


I suspect he means Peterborough, but one must always expect the unexpected!


Is MrX really a yank?
If so he's a yank and a w**k.
I'd boot in his balls
for the garbage he drawls
but I've others more pressing to tank.

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mortonjag 2008-12-30 11:53:42
QUOTE(Spurtle @ Dec 30 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]556887[/snapback]
Marks out of 10 for the squad so far this season.

Cuthbert - Has his moments, but still one of the best keepers we have had for a good while. 9/10

AGREED

Stewart - Hasn't impressed since he came to Cappielow. If he has a bad game against Thistle tonight, he will definately be gone come the summer 4/10

AGREED

McGregor - Defensively he's been capable since he came back into the side. But his distribution and willingness to get forward has been poor indeed. In his last season of his contract, but is doing himself no favours in trying to get a new one. 5/10

UTTER BOMBSCARE AND A TORTOISE TO BOOT-GOOD THIRD DIVISION PLAYER THOUGH

Smith - Young lad who has come into the side. Doesn't look like a natural left back. Still has a lot to learn. Jury out if he can make it at this level. 5/10

ONE OF THE FEW WHO SHOWS ANY SENSE OF URGENCY AND WILLINGNESS TO ATTACK-STILL ROUGH AROUND THE EDGES-PLAYING OUT OF POSITION 6/10

Harding - Has all the skill and can read the game well. But his concentration levels are a major problem for him. Very prone to making "gaffs" in defence. 6/10

AGREED AGAIN BUT WOULD BE FAR MORE EFFECTIVE AT RIGHT BACK THAN SHOOGLY'S PET

Shimmin - One of the best players to come to Cappielow for a while also. Excellent defender and can play the ball out of defence calmly. 9/10

OOZES CLASS AND WOULD BE COMFORTABLE IN MIDFIELD TOO. STRANGELY NERVOUS ON SATURDAY AFTER CUTHBERT/SMITH DEPARTED AND DM WENT TO LEFT BACK! 10/10

Greacen - Has shown a great attitude since he has come back from injury. One of the top performers this season. 9/10

AGREED AGAIN-GREAT COMBO WITH SHIMMIN 8/10

McManus - Made a horrendous start to the season, but is starting to show a bit of form. Can't get into the team just now due to the form of others. 6/10

ONE OF THE FORGOTTEN MEN WHOSE RECORD SPEAKS FOR ITSELF-ON GAMES PLAYED 4/10

McAnespie - Made the bench a couple of times this season without getting onto the park. 2/10

NO COMMENT

Walker - Made a dreadful start to the season at right back. Quite rightly dropped. Perhaps he can do a job in midfield but is not better than what we have there at the moment. 4/10

FUNDAMENTALLY DISAGREE-A SOLID AND COMPETENT FOOTBALLER WHO HAS NEVER BEEN ALLOWED TO SETTLE IN ONE POSITION 6/10

McAllister - Not performed to the best of his ability this season. Can still turn it on at times though. 6/10

THE MOST FRUSTRATING AND OVERRATED PLAYER AT CAPPIELOW AND ANOTHER SHOOGLY PET 4/10

McGuffie - For me, he still hasn't shown the ability that got him into the SPL as a player. 6/10

AGREED

Masterton - Has all the skill in the world. Great at set pieces and can deliver a pass from impossible angles, but in the modern game you need more than that. Let's the game pass him by at times. 7/10

AN ENIGMA-WHEN HE DOESN'T PLAY HE'S MISSED BADLY-WHAT HE DOES WELL OFTEN TURNS THE MATCH 8/10

Paartalu - Not shown the best of form this season. Big and strong midfielder really needs to impose himself in the game. 5/10

GREAT AT BREAKING UP PLAY AND PACKS A GOOD SHOT-BALL CONTROL AND FIRST TOUCH OFTEN LET HIM DOWN 5/10

Jenkins - After a slow start to the season he has come on to show the kind of player many thought he was. Great getting forward. Just needs to add consistancy to his game. 8/10

THE ONLY ATTACK MINDED MIDFIELDER IN IRONS SET UP-FAR TOO MUCH EXPECTED OF THIS GUY 9/10

Finlayson - Unsung hero at times. His committment is there for all to see. A real battler. 8/10

A JM REJECT WHO MASQUERADES AS A WINGER-FOR EFFORT THOUGH 12/10

Russell - Hasn't established himself at Cappielow after his £40k transfer from Brechin. Full of effort but struggles to get to grips with the game at times. 7/10

HIS TIME WILL COME-GOOD STRIKERS NEED CHANCES! 7/10

Weatherson - Big and strong, he can hold the ball up to great effect and bring others into the game. Has an eye for goal too. 8/10

BEST FOOTBALLER IN THE SQUAD AND CURRENTLY PLAYING WITH THE RIGHT ATTITUDE 10/10

Wake - Took time to settle at Cappielow. Very much a confidence player who only seems to come to life in a game after he scores. 8/10

BETTER THAN SOME IMAGINED BUT LIMITED IN ABILITY-GREAT BATTLER 7/10

Grady - Came to Cappielow and played like a whirlwind in his first game scoring his only goal for the Club. Very influencial both on and off the field. 8/10


FOR SAVING IRONS' BACON 0/10! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-30 12:08:17 mortonjag extends cordial wishes for a happy and prosperous 2009.


Lang may yer lum reek.
mortonjag 2008-12-30 12:20:09 How big will the budget be?
mortonjag 2008-12-30 12:29:10
QUOTE(hayfever @ Dec 27 2008, 11:41 AM) [snapback]555773[/snapback]
*sigh* always the bridesmaid. Maybe this new username will help. Ya bunch of bawbags!! tongue.gif

Merry Christmas Morton fans, hope it was a good one.

Not one to be sniffed at!

Where have you gone?

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mortonjag 2008-12-30 12:47:40
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Dec 29 2008, 07:53 PM) [snapback]556778[/snapback]
No he does not. He is an awful footballer.

He is NOT an awful footballer-let that be the end of it! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Dec 30 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]556996[/snapback]
Are you fishing here Jona??

Cuthbert made at least three great saves before the penalty incident. I applauded him for his efforts he made during the game. I am sure that's the same reason as many others.


I reckon it was a 'sympathy' applause and indeed he had kept us in the game up till then-something those who are blaming Smiffy would do well to acknowledge. How many saves did their goalie make in the WHOLE GAME?

I don't believe Cuthbert TRIED to bring the forward down, and I do believe that particular 'last man' rule is one of the craziest in the book. He's a goalie and he's working on adrenalin and reflexes. He hadn't time to think out the possible consequences, yet some of our wise men seem to think he should have stepped aside saying 'pick yer spot mate'!!!
mortonjag 2008-12-30 13:04:18
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Dec 30 2008, 12:56 PM) [snapback]557012[/snapback]
The award for the best avater goes to.....
HAYFEVER

Is that Chris Smith at the back of the team bus after Saturday's game?
mortonjag 2008-12-30 13:09:12
QUOTE(Savo @ Dec 30 2008, 01:01 PM) [snapback]557014[/snapback]
The situation at Sinclair Street could cause a problem, I understand that the police are discussing whether the game should go ahead or not. Haven't heard any more as yet.

Is there any chance, d'ye think, that those of us who plan to travel some distance will have a definite 'yes' or 'no' about this bloody game before tea time? huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-30 13:34:02
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Dec 30 2008, 01:25 PM) [snapback]557024[/snapback]
It's the day of the re-arranged match - 16 days later - and the club still haven't bothered to reply. Totally unacceptable. sad.gif

The Club only responds to e-mails when it suits. Anything deemed remotely critical is blanked. Nothing has changed.
mortonjag 2008-12-30 13:51:00
QUOTE(Muz @ Dec 30 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]557037[/snapback]
Well done Morton for the quick update.

Now MJ- what ye gonnie moan about?

Is the game definitely on then?

Usually when the Club says 'Yes' it means something quite different. Can I get out my thermal underwear, body armour, and typical Greenock numptie lookalike mask, in the safe knowledge that I won't have a wasted journey.

What do you think? Will there be a sudden fall in temperature this afternoon. Has the referee inspected the pitch-after all his decision will be final and we've had late postponements by the score over the past few months?

MUZ-if this game is not on, you will have to answer to the monkey and fing-be well warned. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-30 13:58:06
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Dec 30 2008, 01:48 PM) [snapback]557042[/snapback]
Not at all. I never applaud a player who has just been sent off if I think he deserved it and it was stupid. I honestly don't understand why anyone would. I never clapped Chris Smith as he was substituted as he'd just made a huge mistake and I wouldn't clap Cuthbert after he'd just been daft enough to trip Lynch and put us down to 10 men and give them a penalty which they'd probably score.
There is no last man rule - the red card is for denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity.

I think he did try to bring the forward down because as far as I remember Lynch had already knocked the ball past him a good bit and as he went to move past him Cuthbert tripped him. The fact the ball was already past Cuthbert suggests to me that his sole intention was to bring down the player.



I didn't mention any-are you referring to the words 'last man'-clearly in inverted commas?

IF he knew the ball was past him and deliberately brought the player down I agree with you.
mortonjag 2008-12-30 14:01:37
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Dec 30 2008, 01:55 PM) [snapback]557046[/snapback]
Tosser.

I think 'Referee' is the more appropriate term.
mortonjag 2008-12-30 15:20:16
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Dec 30 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]557053[/snapback]
I personally would have said bawbag, but tosser is better laugh.gif

What would you have said impersonally? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-30 15:25:54
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Dec 30 2008, 02:07 PM) [snapback]557055[/snapback]
I was referring to "I do believe that particular 'last man' rule is one of the craziest in the book." If you are saying you didn't mention a a last man rule what did you mean by "the 'last man' rule is the craziest in the book"?

I suppose that is the question - IF he deliberately brought the player down and the only person who will really know that is Kevin. I'm just offering my interpritation of what I saw from my seat in the stand.

The clue is in the inverted commas-there is a common perception that the last man is automatically sent off for bringing down a player with a scoring chance. The way I see it is that the Ref should decide whether or not it's an intentional foul, but most refs seem to red card automatically.
mortonjag 2008-12-30 15:31:35
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Dec 30 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]557052[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif Crapper.

And, incidently, YOU went "clyping to the mods" a few months ago to get me banned, by taking false umbrage at an old joke (no, not you!) I'd recycled and twisting it around in your inimitable way. How quickly you forget, eh? Or is it OldTimer's Disease kicking in? dry.gif

You were legitimately banned for being a naughty boy. Just think yourself lucky mortonjag was unable to get you across his knee or your little pink bum would still be rid raw.
mortonjag 2008-12-30 15:36:17 If we attack them we can win it. I'm hoping we do and I could see 2-0 to us.

Trouble is that if we go ahead Irons will probably try to protect the one goal lead by withdrawing the troops-we've seen it before- then they equalise and get a late winner! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-30 15:38:44
QUOTE(cmonaton @ Dec 30 2008, 03:32 PM) [snapback]557079[/snapback]
ffs don't confuse him.

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mortonjag 2008-12-30 15:48:19
QUOTE(Malt @ Dec 30 2008, 02:49 PM) [snapback]557064[/snapback]
We need a right back as McGregor is not the answer. Nice guy and long servant to the club but we can;t afford to play him due to his reign at club. It is a pity Alex Walker never got an extended run as right back to see what he could do there. Guy has been shifted around so much, and injured, that he has never made one position his own.

Regarding future signings when you look at the number of strikers we have at the club would we not have to move a few on before we brought more in?

Brian Graham - Still on the books and will be back next year
Peter
Russell
Wake
Grady
Newby


All of those guys would be scoring goals if the set up suited them-Graham is and apparently for fun.

I can't understand why we would contemplate signing yet another striker in preference to any one of four (two wingers/two proper wing backs)!

I'm not greatly enamoured of the notion that Jimbo should be shifted to right back, though he'd be a big improvement on McGregor. Alex Walker is perfectly capable of doing a half decent job there.

When will this club EVER sign a balanced squad? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-30 16:02:06
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 29 2008, 12:01 AM) [snapback]556522[/snapback]
I'm just out of hospital after flu turned into pneumonia so right now I'm well and truly fecked. My present troubles notwithstanding, I'll give this year 10, all down to the birth of my Grandson Dylan.

I'm sure you'll improve rapidly now that you're out of hospital Mr Edwards-those are very dangerous places where people die on a daily basis.

2008 has been everything I could ever have wished for and more-undoubtedly 10/10. Making so many new friends on this massage board has put the icing on the cake. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-30 17:20:43 He maintained the word pig could be found in the Oxford dictionary and was often used to describe police.

But added he had learned 'that there is nothing at all in common with a pig and an officer'
.




...as pigs have four legs and are reputedly very intelligent?


mortonjag 2008-12-30 17:25:49
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 30 2008, 05:16 PM) [snapback]557134[/snapback]
Why, thankyou Earnie boy laugh.gif

It's a pleasure. BTW you can't have failed to notice that we have a new poster who calls himself 'Spurtle'. I may have to invent a new name for you for 2009. blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-30 22:50:23 Credit where due-not a failure tonight with the possible exception of Stewart. Put the defence under pressure needlessly on several occasions by his indecisiveness, and I honestly can't remember any decent saves-he did smother a half hit shot in the first half. His kicking and general distribution were poor. Thank goodness Cuthbert will be back on Saturday.

Shimmin and Greacen are shaping up as the best central pairing in this league, while our two 'full backs' coped quite well. Alex Walker in particular was always willing to drive forward and made some telling passes. Jimbo and Kev-much of the same -brilliant workhorses but dreadful finishers. Jenks doesn't deserve so much criticism-he did a power of work even if he wasn't very productive, and his midfield mate Stevie M was my MOTM. How this guy can ever be left out of a starting eleven is a mystery to me-two set pieces-two goals-the second an utterly magnificent glancing header from a tireless Spoonsy. We need another striker-AYE RIGHT!!!

Who's left? Grady-always in there, and providing excellent link play particularly with Spoonsy and the midfielders, and very unlucky with a cracking shot off the bar. His influence clearly extends beyond the playing field and he individually 'high fived' every team mate off at the end.

I really enjoyed the game-OK Tuffey didn't actually have any real saves to make, but we were always in command, and for once the goals came nicely for us.

It was pretty obvious that McColl had written his side off by mid way through the second half.


Well done boys!
mortonjag 2008-12-30 23:06:59
QUOTE(scotia morton @ Dec 30 2008, 10:38 PM) [snapback]557353[/snapback]
Despite what MJ thinks the fact that we have now completed the second quarter of the season with 7 wins out of the 9 teams in the league, only Livingston and St Johnstone getting victorys over us by a single goal, proves that we are going in the right direction. Its just a pity that our result against Airdrie went the wrong way or we would have been sitting 4th after tonights game.

Off the field things appear to be going in the right direction too. The purchase of St Midden's old stand for the dublin end and other activity to improve the ground gives me the impression that the club is in safe hands.
On the field its clear we do have to improve to fine tune the squad, fullbacks and a proven 1st division goal scorer being the priority in my opinion.

But overall I am pretty positive about 2009 and can see us finishing in the top 5 rather than fighting off relegation.
No doubt MJ will disagree with my assessment and I would like him to explain why he thinks Irons, Collins and Dougie Rae are not the right men to take the Club forward.

I'm a happy man tonight. One game at a time please! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-30 23:16:46
QUOTE(piehutt @ Dec 30 2008, 06:37 PM) [snapback]557148[/snapback]
Seriously folks I cannot believe people try to engage in discussion with MJ. Totally pointless.

As for signings... if we get Elliot then good. Think he's a bit of a big time charlie hence his drop down from the SPL, but certainly an able player for us and I think it should work out.

As for other signings... Grady. If so - fine, if not, fair enough - only going to get 4/5 months out of him.

If we have that then I think we will comfortably stay in the division, so I guess that is our objective sorted at the moment from where we are today.

Elsewhere... yes, we'd like a full back or two and I'd like a wide player to replace Finlayson.
Centre mid - I think we have to be content with two from four... Jenkins, McGuffie, Masterton and Partaalu, at the moment.

But I guess that wouldn't be a priority and we'd prob have to look at moving on the likes of McManus, Russell, McAnespie (is he still here?) and free up wages for a couple more.

We cannot afford to lose Jimbo and Shimmin - who I'd imagine are the only players people may look at. Perhaps Greacan if anyone has seen him in the last 10 games or so as he's been faultless, and I guess Cuthbert could probably move up a level, if any SPL sides needed a 2nd choice keeper? Dundee Utd?

Also - we clearly need to reassess our objectives next summer? Do we want to challenge... if we do we need a bigger squad... it's all very well putting together decent runs of 6 or 7 games, but clearly we've put out some makeshift teams at times and it costs us. Our midfield at the start of the season was a joke without Jenkins there, likewise our defence with McManus in it.

We need 3 or 4 more guys of this quality... Jenkins, Greacan, McAlister etc who add major depth to the squad. The likes of Finlayson and Wake should only be reserve players, rather than players who feature in nearly every game.


There are many, many well qualified and intellectually gifted posters who regularly do just that Piehole. Perhaps you're just not on the same plane! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-30 23:21:35
QUOTE(scotia morton @ Dec 30 2008, 11:10 PM) [snapback]557381[/snapback]
So does MJ now think things are not as bad as he was writing on the forum earlier this week?

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Listen you-I thoroughly enjoyed that performance tonight, and I'm trying to enjoy a nice cup of strong tea with my monkey and fing.

Maybe I've put on rose tinted specs for once. I'll let you know in the morning! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-30 23:26:04
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Dec 30 2008, 03:36 PM) [snapback]557081[/snapback]
If we attack them we can win it. I'm hoping we do and I could see 2-0 to us.

Trouble is that if we go ahead Irons will probably try to protect the one goal lead by withdrawing the troops-we've seen it before- then they equalise and get a late winner! dry.gif

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mortonjag 2008-12-30 23:37:06
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Dec 30 2008, 11:31 PM) [snapback]557395[/snapback]
Up to 6th now (Dundee have a game in hand mind) and our next 4 games are QOTS at home, Dundee away then St. Johsntone and Livi at home, can see us getting 8 points of that lot. happy.gif

We could get 12! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-30 23:59:00
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Dec 30 2008, 11:51 PM) [snapback]557408[/snapback]
here we go......i actually think a lot of them wished you were there....your name was mentioned a few times...

cant remember if it was w*nker or dickhead you were classified as...Or just boring ..

You choose...................

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Enjoy your beauty sleep-the Jag secretly loves you! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-31 00:03:24
QUOTE(bilco @ Dec 30 2008, 11:53 PM) [snapback]557409[/snapback]
it could easily have been 4-0 if the goal was allowed and the penalty was given.
could have easly been 9-0 if we had an attaking midfield and not a defensive one.
We so need a midfield playmaker who can turn and play a through ball. or spray it our wide when needed.
We are playing with Grady up front who as he proved all his life and against Clyde he plays off the shoulder of defenders. Play the fkn ball through he wants to run at defences.

And dont get me started on Jenkins.......should have been off after 5min..looked knacked

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You're a hard taskmaster Srge!

We DID win! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-31 00:37:25 What a pleasant surprise tonight. Singing and chanting from the shed, and general happiness all round. Long may it continue.

Before I slope off to my bed
I'd like to thank the TON cowshed
For tunes still ringing in my head-
I'd long since thought that they were dead!

So here's tae every cowshed coo
Who gave tonight a hearty Moo
And even though you were hauf fu'
The boys appreciated you

Come back again on Saturday
And bring a friend for Dougie Rae
No matter be you straight or gay
It helps with McAnespie's pay

Sing anything-the Hokey Cokey
Will put more money in the pokey
If you'd prefer the 'Auld Lang Syne'
I've checked and Shoogly says 'That's fine'!




mortonjag 2008-12-31 00:47:04
QUOTE(bilco @ Dec 31 2008, 12:16 AM) [snapback]557430[/snapback]
But doesnt get away from the fact mj that if we had an attacking midfield we could finish alot more games off. Maybe as we all think it isnt the strikers fault but the midfield if we had more adventurous balls played god knows. yes we did win and for that i am happy but could/should have been alot more

Bilco-will you please stop girning? You are beginning to sound like that decrepit old c*nt from Glasgow-you know who I mean! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-31 00:55:20
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Dec 31 2008, 12:20 AM) [snapback]557432[/snapback]
That will put the kybosh on a poor performance although that ginger hair unforgivable .

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Wait and see-with our luck the ginger one will play a blinder.

I was 'chatted up' at half time by a lady who commented that she'd really liked that 'ex Rangers boy'. I thought she maybe meant Chris Smith (RIP) or Alex Walker. 'No' she rejoined, 'the wee ginger goalie'. I asked her what in particular had impressed her, and she seemed a bit stuck for words! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-31 01:09:34
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Dec 31 2008, 12:05 AM) [snapback]557424[/snapback]
aye...his wanking chariot...and thats where im off too....

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QUOTE(se65an @ Dec 31 2008, 12:09 AM) [snapback]557427[/snapback]
Would like to say enjoy, but erm like please at least use a sock, f*** (crude I know) making a mess of the bed.
Night night

Flights of fancy-aka 'I could hump that Gillian one to a band playin'! blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-31 08:58:46
QUOTE(scotia morton @ Dec 30 2008, 11:10 PM) [snapback]557381[/snapback]
So does MJ now think things are not as bad as he was writing on the forum earlier this week?


No doubt MJ will disagree with my assessment and I would like him to explain why he thinks Irons, Collins and Dougie Rae are not the right men to take the Club forward
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Good morning Scotia. I'm sitting with yet another cup of strong tea having come down to earth after last night's excitement, and asking myself why it seemed like we'd just won the Scottish Cup against Cellic or Rangers.


Maybe that answers your questions, or do I have to expand? blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-31 09:03:43
QUOTE(forza ton @ Dec 31 2008, 01:27 AM) [snapback]557451[/snapback]
stop trying tae sook in with the shed fannybaws. the votes are in. you have no f***ing shame laugh.gif .

Don't be ridiculous-I haven't even a clue who he is. I'm a standman, just like yourself!
mortonjag 2008-12-31 09:08:46
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Dec 31 2008, 09:05 AM) [snapback]557508[/snapback]
The shed v The Standman !!

Is that a PPV Wrestling event ?

laugh.gif And the highlight of the evening:


Penis Pump v Gravity! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-31 09:19:13
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Dec 31 2008, 09:13 AM) [snapback]557513[/snapback]
I know about that first. I will bow down to your superior knowledge of the latter but I do have a question surrounding it.

Is the fact your ass and baws sag so much due to gravity tugging on them at 9.8 mps or just because your old ? rolleyes.gif

YES!
mortonjag 2008-12-31 09:22:43 Do any of you remember this wee chap?

[attachment=4976:th_smiffy.gif]


Whatever happened to him?
mortonjag 2008-12-31 09:34:33
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Dec 31 2008, 02:22 AM) [snapback]557469[/snapback]
Who's all going where for it this year?

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Those of us who are fortunate enough have the option of welcoming the New Year in the comfort of our own homes!

mortonjag 2008-12-31 11:10:09
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 31 2008, 10:24 AM) [snapback]557532[/snapback]
Irons seems to have a rule that if you make a major c*ck up in a game you are out the next game and have to fight for your place back. If the players know that's the rule and that it will be fairly applied then that would seem acceptable.

As it happens, Walker had a decent game albeit that Thistle did not offer much opposition and so Smith might be out for a bit or at least until Alex has a stinker!

On the same basis, I would'nt be surprised if Jenkins is warming the bench on Saturday!

I'd suggest that there is plenty of evidence to question that. Smith made one very serious error for which he has plainly been punished severely by the schoolmaster.

Newby APPARENTLY did the same at Dundee, though the schoolmaster was perhaps a wee bit harsh, and it sure bit him in the bum!!

I don't want to start bad mouthing individual players on the morning after an excellent victory, but there are others in the squad who regularly make serious blunders in EVERY game, and whose arses have not warmed the bench yet!

Mr Irons sure likes to have a scapegoat available. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-31 11:18:19 Stewart was not really tested last night. I can't recall those wonderful saves he's supposed to have made. He got down late to his right to smother a half hit shot before half time. His kicking was woefully unsuccessful finding a Thistle player as often as one of ours and he flapped about the six yard box looking very nervous. On more than one occasion he put the central defence under pressure with his hallmark failing-staying glued to his line.

I know it's all about opinions. In mine, he's a bloody bombscare.
mortonjag 2008-12-31 11:21:27
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Dec 31 2008, 11:08 AM) [snapback]557571[/snapback]
Were you a politician in a previous life? smile.gif

Nope!
mortonjag 2008-12-31 11:28:31
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Dec 31 2008, 10:54 AM) [snapback]557550[/snapback]
The one aspect of our game that is non existent and has been for a long time is our ability to get down the line and put crosses into the box. Can think of one occasion this was done last night and Grady should've scored in the first half. We definitely need a couple of decent wingers, although give DI and Dc their dues as it seems that they recognize that this is not a strong part of our game and focus on other parts of the team. Maybe the transfer window will bring a winger or 2?

As for Peter, if he continues to put in performances like last night, he'll soon be in the good books again (for most). He just needs to be consistently good and we have one of the best forwards in the division.
roll on 2009

It seems-if rumours are to be believed-that we're about to sign yet another striker. If that is true it merely confirms that DI is utterly clueless!
mortonjag 2008-12-31 11:44:05
QUOTE(midTONs @ Dec 31 2008, 11:17 AM) [snapback]557586[/snapback]
I'll count myself out of this one if it's ok with you guys. Not that I'm not into to helping folk but I pay my house/contents insurance every month in case anything like this ever happens to me, if these people are insured then they will be fine, I know the risks of not having insurance and so should others.
That doesn't mean I don't have any sympathy for them as I do, some will have lost more than can ever be replaced but to give them hand outs because they are not insured sends out the signals for me.
**midtons crawls behind the couch to take cover**

There are FAR more serious disasters close to home on a daily basis. Sure-it's a nice gesture, but it's not going to help the Club in any way-at least half of them are probably not even TON supporters, and we desperately need the money. I suggest a bucket collection to buy a can of oil for the turnstyles-there's a start!
mortonjag 2008-12-31 16:49:11 It's very clear to me that Walker should be at right back and Smith restored to the left back position. DM did have a reasonable game last night, but he simply can't cope with wingers. I've said before, and don't mean it unkindly, that he's a complete footballer but not at First Division level.
mortonjag 2008-12-31 17:03:32
QUOTE(scotia morton @ Dec 31 2008, 01:27 PM) [snapback]557706[/snapback]
Glad to hear it MJ. Happy New Year

....and I wish you a Happy New Year too Scotia.

After last night's performance one could be excused for expecting us to beat the Doonhamers on Saturday.

Gordon Chisholm's side have gone through a horrendous spell of bad form, not helped by injuries and suspensions, but they are still potentially a dangerous side. We have to stay on the offensive.

As long as Spoonsy, and Grady continue to link well we've always the chance of some goals, but our options are still very limited.

We're looking very solid in central defence and our midfield is flexible enough to cope with any other club in the division. Irons seems to have got that right. If he accepts that it's the supply to our existing strikers that's our Achilles heel, we COULD become a promotion chasing outfit.

We need at least one half decent winger, with a competent overlapping full back on the other flank. That alone would make a HUGE difference IMO.

If we blow more money on this Elliot guy, it will merely confirm that Mr Irons is tactically clueless.
mortonjag 2008-12-31 17:10:48 Sounds like the ideal opportunity for Smiffy to prove his doubters wrong on Saturday-though I suspect he'll still be left in the corner with the dunce's cap on! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-31 17:14:01
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Dec 31 2008, 02:49 PM) [snapback]557757[/snapback]
Hes the fitness sport therapist guy whose been with us since last month .

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We'd be cheaper hiring a witch doctor and probably twice as effective. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-31 17:31:27
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Dec 31 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]557649[/snapback]
Yes, I've been watching Morton since the early '60s and apart from Andy I can't remember anyone who has posed the same threat. I'm sure one or other of the posters who are great on statistics will be looking at it already but Masterton's strike rate compared to Ritchie's will be interesting to follow over the seasons.




If big Andy was playing now, he'd create absolute mayhem. What he could achieve back in those days with a far less sophisticated football was nothing short of magic.

To quote Sir Alexander gum chower:


'Andy Ritchie was the bane of my life when I was at Aberdeen. He would continually score free kicks against us. So much so that we spent a whole week in training trying ways to defend....etc...


...we tried everything but two goalkeepers which unfortunately the rules did not allow'.

George Anderson remembers scoring nine or ten goals in one season-all headers off Andy's corners. He says that at long as he timed his run properly there was only one possible result.

So-back to the original post. Stevie undoubtedly gets more out of a dead ball situation than anyone we've seen at Cappielow for many years, but Ritchie was IMHO light years ahead of that nukimari guy. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-31 17:48:47
QUOTE(simplyton @ Dec 31 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]557534[/snapback]
His goal was a perfect example of what can be achieved if we get a quality delivery into the box

PRECISELY!



What should he, DC and DDFR be doing to improve things then?

Signing players who will increase our options-that means NOT another bloody striker. dry.gif

QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Dec 31 2008, 01:19 PM) [snapback]557698[/snapback]
Very strongly disagree with that. I think we're desperately in need of another striker, as Wake and Russell are not high enough standard to progress in this league, IMO.

Even Grady, who has been showered with praise for lifting the team, seems to do very little when on the park, though service to him is admittedly poor.

We do need a new striker of similar quality to Weatherson.

We could do with one for sure, but it's about priorities. I'm brassed off with constant criticism of 'our strikers'. FFS man, the best gun in the world is useless without bloody bullets. LEAFY and WAKEY would knock in their fair share if chances were being created. Even last night Tuffey did not have one decent save to make. What does that tell you?

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 31 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]557734[/snapback]
Most managers would die for a player like Weatherson (ref. McColls comments) and you would like to see him leave ! blink.gif

He is one of the best strikers in the league, I couldn't care what he did in the past. He is doing it on the pitch at present. That's good enough for me.

Where do we get a player of Weatherson's ability if he did leave ? And if he did leave as you suggest. I sure as fek wouldn't like to be playing against the team he is playing in.



Correct Sir, and if I require drastic life saving surgery and there's only one man capable of doing the op, I'm damned sure I'm not going to ask him what he does in his spare time.
mortonjag 2008-12-31 18:02:20
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Dec 31 2008, 12:39 PM) [snapback]557670[/snapback]
Cuthbert in a straight choice but since Irons seems to say one thing and do another in the case of Smith by dropping him right out last night it will depend on how much blame Irons apportions to Cuthberts red card against the Nazi's whether Stewart keeps his place .

Having said that what a difference a year makes when we had 2 keepers who had the support divided as no one could decipher who was worse .

laugh.gif laugh.gif Very true, though I've heard he'll be back on Saturday provided he completes his hundred lines of


'I must not attempt to stop folk scoring goals'. dry.gif

QUOTE(ThornTON @ Dec 31 2008, 04:58 PM) [snapback]557809[/snapback]
Cuthbert, by a long way. The clean sheet doesn't tell the whole story, it was hearts in mouths time any time the ball went near Stewart last night.

I agree and am astonished that that was not obvious to all. He looked as nervous as a puppy on bonfire night.

QUOTE(piehutt @ Dec 31 2008, 05:43 PM) [snapback]557845[/snapback]
to be fair to Stewart he had the defense and central midfield pairing on top of him any time we were under a bit of pressure, and I suspect even Buffon would be rooted to his line for much of the game were this the case.

I think Stewart proved himself worthy of competing with Cuthbert for the no1 jersey - but I'd prob give it back to Cuthbert when available.

The only reviews I ever got of Colin Stewart were from a few Thistle fan's who hated him because Dick Campbell played him ahead of Kenny Arthur. Stewart was clearly under pressure from the fans and didn't play well.

A clear example of why players should always get full support when the manager picks them.



That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever Piehole. He's supposed to COMMAND his bloody box. I take it Big Stu and Dom were telling him to stay on his line with comments like 'don't you effin dare to come into our space'! laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-31 18:08:50 Maybe Corky was really trying to say:



SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A STRIKER!



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mortonjag 2008-12-31 18:28:30
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 31 2008, 06:14 PM) [snapback]557881[/snapback]
They're not given cash or vouchers, they are taken on supervised shops to Tesco and the like. Some received as much as £500 worth of goods and kids were taken to funworld for the day. Good for the deserving, too bad it's abused by some.

I have, in my lifetime met perhaps half a dozen Social Workers who called it as it was. As a department Social Work is a bloody scourge on hard working taxpayers-a festering and self perpetuating carbuncle on the arse of decency and respectability.

Now-that's got f*ck all to do with me not feeling sympathy for the victims of that fire-I do-but it sounds like many of them must think they've 'won a watch'.

I hate politicians more than Social Workers-not a lot-but I definitely do! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-31 18:36:18 I have never made a New Year's Resolution before. This time around it's going to be different. I've resolved to be much more assertive and not let others bully me. I have also decided to be much more tolerant of the illiterate, and to be less pompous and self satisfied, because it upsets those who can never attain my standards..
mortonjag 2008-12-31 18:52:52
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 31 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]557901[/snapback]
I suggest you start by grasping the concepts of punctuation. blush.gif

Thank you-I promise to try very, very hard.
mortonjag 2008-12-31 19:02:04
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 31 2008, 06:32 PM) [snapback]557895[/snapback]
Are they worse than Quacks then? laugh.gif

One can only fairly compare like with like Mr Edwards. As I already stated, I have met but a few Social Workers who admitted that 90% of the time they were dealing with scum. They still performed their duties in accordance with their contracts. For that I respected them.

Most Quacks are somewhat full of their own importance-perhaps the public should carry some blame for making them believe they do a worthwhile job.
mortonjag 2008-12-31 19:12:41 As usual in such situations we'll have the liberated brigade claiming that it doesn't matter what he wears provided he does a good job.

Teaching children involves setting standards for the young and impressionable. A teacher who deliberately flouts his employer's authority sets a bad example.

I wouldn't sack the misguided sod-a public pink botty caning at assembly would serve the general good far more effectively.
mortonjag 2008-12-31 19:27:57
QUOTE(capitanus @ Dec 31 2008, 07:22 PM) [snapback]557919[/snapback]
Now if it were a muslim woman wearing the hijab she'd given her job back or have got a good few grand to cushion the blow of being sacked.

I'd imagine so. I don't want to become embroiled in a heated debate, but Glasgow Polis with turbans look utterly ridiculous to me, and I believe, to most Glaswegians.
mortonjag 2008-12-31 19:38:47 He added: "We know Morton play a certain way and good luck to them, but I am very angry that they did us from two set-plays. We had four or five good chances and, on another night, it could have been different. We warned them about giving away daft fouls and it has cost us.


What McCall's saying is what every 1st Division manager must be saying too. Last night it came good for us but that hasn't always happened. We DESPERATELY need more options.
mortonjag 2009-01-01 11:21:35 Out with the old and in with the new Spoonsy?

He can't change his personality, but he can learn how to cope with it.
There's no reason why he can't score a barrow load between now and April if we make a couple of sensible signings
I'd love to see Grady (our real coach and motivator) stay. From a totally selfish angle my belief is that the best way to improve and balance the squad (money permitting) is the introduction of an aggressive attacking RIGHT wing back, an experienced LEFT winger, and if at all possible, a ball holding midfield playmaker. Chris Millar could have fulfilled that role of course.

I think that with those changes the squad would be transformed from a rather constipated and often drearily boring defence minded gamble into a fearsome attacking force.

I am, of course, only able to speak as a layman. If the introduction of yet another striker is the real solution-so be it.

Ian McCall certainly rates Spoonsy, and despite regular criticism, Wakey and LEAFY are NOT complete duds.

A Happy New Year in prospect?


Over to you Mr Irons.
mortonjag 2009-01-01 12:00:31
QUOTE(Mick @ Dec 31 2008, 09:22 PM) [snapback]557968[/snapback]
I understand your point, but why so dramatic? Given we're half-way through the season, the only thing that is clear is that any team can beat any team in this league.

You're suggesting we're one dimensional...and yet we find ourselves 6th, having overcome a horrendous start to the season. Some judicious signings over the next few weeks should see us having, by far, a better second half to the season.

As an aside, picking up from an earlier post about Irons being clueless because he was looking at striking options, WHO (from those available) would YOU rather have us sign. I'm not having a dig; just interested in your perspective.

That is exactly what I have been saying. I've just posted on another thread that the key positions IMO are two to add width and ideally a play maker in midfield. I DON'T regard a striker as a priority. We already have strikers who are not scoring because they are starving! As always I say that one does not need to have the answers in order to identify the problem. I'm not involved enough in Scottish football to have an update on available players.

QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 1 2009, 09:42 AM) [snapback]558031[/snapback]
I think Mortonjag in his never ending criticism of the team, the management, the board and the players seems to forget that we are Morton, playing in the Scottish first division and were everything so perfect, for a start if our players were that good we would not be watching them play for Morton. There are no outstanding football teams in this division which is in part due to the league format and in part due to the rotten coaching philosphies on the rounds in Scottish Football over the last 10 / 15 years.

Who can blame Irons given the circumstances? He tried the open attacking football and we got hammered so he sticks with a way that of late has got us results more often than not. At Cappielow, we look a far more solid unit and hard to beat which is as good a base as any on which to build a successful team. If the sigings I hear are coming actually arrive then barring injuries, it should be a good 2009 for watching the Ton.



Mortonjag and many others Ratarse! Read my posts at the season's start. I said the squad was limited but we'd be hard to beat, and I predicted we'd finish 5th when very few were so optimistic.

Irons then proceeded, IMHO, to make a complete fool of himself with his big ego, big mouth, and dismissive attitude. His man management was abysmal, and it's well known that he was three quarters way 'out the door' when Grady arrived like some miraculous Baby Jesus Saviour.

I really can't see any point to your post except to launch an attack on mortonjag. For that I award you the first 2009 prize for innovation! laugh.gif

Oh-and I forgot to mention that it is my humble perception that Irons believes a football pitch is 50m wide, and that football is supposed to be played like ping pong! mad.gif

mortonjag 2009-01-01 12:30:15
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jan 1 2009, 11:50 AM) [snapback]558055[/snapback]
I don't think you can realistically play nowadays with an out-and-out left winger and an attacking right wing-back. Particularly if you are also playing with two up front.

Experienced left-wingers, aggresive attacking right wingers, and ball-holding midfielders aren't exactly ten a penny either. Do you have in mind any good one's that we would have a real prospect of capturing this window?

Why? unsure.gif


With regard to your second paragraph, I'd comment that that is where an experienced Manager with good contacts should be at an advantage. Mortonjag will do his best to help you with any medical questions, but will always add a disclaimer! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-01 13:18:27 To everyone connected with Morton I offer the hand of friendship and wish you a prosperous 2009.
mortonjag 2009-01-01 13:25:34
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 1 2009, 12:46 PM) [snapback]558093[/snapback]
You really can be a paranoid wee chap sometimes. Not everyone is out to get mortonjag, you know. wink.gif

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Don't be so daft. Mortonjag deserves to be attacked. Mortonjag enjoys being attacked provided the ammunition is legal!

That's a FACT! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-01 13:34:16 The answer lies in Shimmin IMO. The guy's reading of the game is faultless, and most importantly he always seems to have that extra couple of seconds over his opponents-that's a hallmark of true class. Big Stu now has the opportunity to do what he's best at-early interception-knowing he's got a reliable partner to mop up if necessary. He's clearly a confidence player and right now he's brimming with it. Definitely the best central pairing in the division at the moment.

I feel sorry for Ryan Harding-he and Stu rarely gelled, yet technically Ryan is a more gifted player. I believe he will still find success at least at First Division level-possibly elsewhere.
mortonjag 2009-01-01 13:39:36 There is only one man who can answer that question! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-01 13:53:56
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 1 2009, 01:39 PM) [snapback]558114[/snapback]
Does mortonjag admit he is wrong? Because Davie Irons seems to have learned well from the first quarter of the season and found some terrific form.

His defence seems settled and all we need now are good full-backs/wingers and a high(er) scoring centre forward. Should we get them I would regard Morton as one of the most formiddable teams in the league.

Would you happily concede that he knows how to build a successful team - if not an attractive one to watch - if he achieves this?

I fundamentally disagree about the centre forward issue being a priority. We need more width-we need decent crosses from the flanks, and a proper supply from midfield from which our current strikers are perfectly capable of getting their share of goals.

I look at his treatment of Smith, remember what happened after 'Newby' and ask myself if he's capable of learning anything.

He does NOT appear to know how to build a successful team, unless you mean that he copped out and handed over to James Grady, to whom he and we owe a huge debt of gratitude.

I believe he's an extremely good coach and a dreadful man manager whose ego is his downfall.


In summary, I believe that the recent improvement-and we ain't exactly top of the league yet-is much more down to the boys playing at their best again, and I don't put that down to Irons.

If and when I see him fielding a side which plays attractive, entertaining, and successful football, I'll be the first to applaud him.
mortonjag 2009-01-01 14:02:01
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jan 1 2009, 11:09 AM) [snapback]558044[/snapback]
There seems to be a surfeit of s***e poets on this board at the mo. I wish you would all do me a favour and drop your literary pretensions and get back to good old fashioned basic insults ya c***s.



QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 1 2009, 01:34 PM) [snapback]558108[/snapback]
I beg to differ, there's too much negative energy going around.

I think this messageboard and indeed the whole world would be a better place if we were all nice to one another. angel.gif

I must agree with CHC
The world a gayer place would be
With poster love-it isn't dauntin'
Forget that crabbit c*nt from Taunton.
mortonjag 2009-01-01 14:31:35 In Ton terms, I guess the Partick game already mentioned with the Hibs cup tie not far behind.

In my private life I can't think of any particular highs or lows. I'm actually a very contended person, and easily pleased. There was another Grandchild and my Mum made a good recovery from her serious illness. I forgot about the monkey and fing graduating from university-I'm very proud of those wee boys.


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mortonjag 2009-01-01 14:42:38
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 31 2008, 08:35 PM) [snapback]557956[/snapback]
All the best for 2009 Mentaljag. biggrin.gif

...and a guid new year to you too Sir! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-01 14:57:22
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jan 1 2009, 02:22 PM) [snapback]558127[/snapback]
This is where this board could do with an Andy Gray tactics board feature smile.gif

If you're playing with an out-and-out left winger, then sensibly you also have to go with a straight-forward left back to cover.

If you're going with a right-wing back then you need your centre-backs to cover, which means having to go with three central-defenders.

With two centre-forwards, the formation is therefore:

GK

CB CB CB RB

RWB CM CM

CF CF LW
If the opposition plays a basic 4-4-2 then they have two against one on our left flank and four against two or three (depending on what our RWB is managing to do) in midfield.

On the basis that the RWB, LW and one CM are new players, that also means only one place available for: Jenkins, McAlister, Masterton, McGuffie, Paartalu, or Finlayson (not to mention Stevenson and McAnespie ph34r.gif ), which ain't the best use of the resources available to us IMHO.



I'm afraid I don't go into things in such depth. All I know is that Jimbo is a crap left winger, Kev is a crap right winger, and our two current 'full backs' don't get up the wings. I believe that in Smith and Jimbo we CAN cover behind an out and out left winger-that's why I suggested that. On the right I'd prefer an overlapping full back-partly because there is not a decent right back in the squad, and because I believe the existing defence and midfield is more than capable of giving cover to the right.

Does that make any sense?
mortonjag 2009-01-01 15:08:49
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 1 2009, 02:45 PM) [snapback]558137[/snapback]
Taunton mate you've got it wrong,
Fill the world with joy and song,
Being nasty just ain't right,
It's better fun to hug than fight.

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CHC, that grumpy bugger's
Never going to be a hugger
Too long spent in Somerset's
Made him a carnaptious get.

mortonjag 2009-01-01 15:13:00
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 1 2009, 12:41 PM) [snapback]558090[/snapback]
I still have my lochgelly two prong should you wish to thrash him.

Actually I've just google and it appears you can still buy them, though not from John J Dick the original manufacturer.

Clicky.

I'm sure my Dad's old 'Lochgelly' is still lying about somewhere. As far as I recall teachers did have to supply their own belts.
mortonjag 2009-01-01 15:41:15
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jan 1 2009, 03:05 PM) [snapback]558142[/snapback]
Well hurry up and give us your answer oh great Jag... rolleyes.gif

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I'd imagine that you have a better insight into the workings of your master's brain than this humble poster! Anyway I bid you a prosperous New Year with plenty of carrots and not too much stick. blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-01 15:47:21
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 1 2009, 03:08 PM) [snapback]558144[/snapback]
We've noticed. rolleyes.gif

That was supposed to be witty I imagine.

Are you wrestling with multiple personae, or do you simply presume to speak for all? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-01 16:03:03
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 1 2009, 03:49 PM) [snapback]558162[/snapback]
Yep, If memory serves it was about Four pounds + p&p in 1977.
FYI!
mortonjag 2009-01-01 16:18:40
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jan 1 2009, 03:50 PM) [snapback]558163[/snapback]
Apologies. I should have said Talentless C UNTS

That's different! laugh.gif

It's a shame that we have such a paucity of profanities in the English language-the worst thing one can call a fellow poster appears to be a c*nt.

Maybe we could invent some new swear words of our own-let's face it, we could even use them on the day to day forums and drive the Mods mad (sorry about that contradiction in terms).

Staying on the c*nt theme, I propose 'SCRUNT'-a grafting of the scrotum to the vulva. Thus Puggsy (not that I specifically aim this at anybody) could be described as a scabby wee scrunt.

I'm sure there must be others! blush.gif



mortonjag 2009-01-01 19:30:55
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Dec 31 2008, 06:14 PM) [snapback]557879[/snapback]
I've been to a couple of under 19's games that hes attended and I thought he was a good influence in keeping the players going .

I know that the senior players should have a few who lead on the park but as you have saw we do lack real leadership at times if this guy can do it off the park then its a job well done .

Part of a managers remit is seeing the weaknesses and rectifying them he brought in Grady and this guy thus acknowledging what we lacked .

Hey if Irons signs a player who can deliver a cross then it will be another showing that he is well aware of the deficencies.

So he's some kind of shrink?

QUOTE(Savo @ Jan 1 2009, 04:20 PM) [snapback]558171[/snapback]
I was told he was brought in to do motivational/psychological work with all the players, sort of similar to the role that guy Jack Black had with a few of the Rangers players a while back I think.


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Cheaper than a decent win bonus?
mortonjag 2009-01-01 19:40:44
QUOTE(suda @ Jan 1 2009, 04:50 PM) [snapback]558180[/snapback]
So a couple of days after stating you needed a Greenock numptie mask to feel at home at Scapa you come on here with a sycophantic charm offensive. You really do believe that we're all as stupid as you tell us you are, the timing of this festive cheer has nothing to do with the fact that your anti DI/DC/DR offensive is stuttering due to good results is it?

I thought the shed was brilliant on Tuesday. Nobody else seems to have disagreed with me Dearie.
mortonjag 2009-01-01 19:45:04
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jan 1 2009, 03:44 PM) [snapback]558160[/snapback]
It does, and I actually agree with nearly all of it.

The only bit I would take issue with is that you couldn't play Smith, McAlister and a winger all on the left flank simultaneously.

If we were to sign a left-winger then I think we'd already have enough attacking options on the right of midfield (McAlister, Finlayson, Masterton, Russell, technically even Stevenson) to get by. Tbh, I still see McAlister making his name in the overlapping full-back role.

I can see some sense in that, but to be of value he'd have to learn how to put in a decent cross consistently.

QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 1 2009, 04:42 PM) [snapback]558179[/snapback]
...and a Pun-tastic New Year to you as well! wub.gif

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mortonjag 2009-01-01 19:54:13
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jan 1 2009, 06:21 PM) [snapback]558208[/snapback]
The length of Junior's original deal was never publicised, but PT is correct here. rolleyes.gif

I never imagined that a poster of the Princess's pedigree would dream of misleading with speculation Anus, and she's a specialist on Gingers.

You always present yourself as privy to Club information-not that there is anything wrong with being a club insider, but it does help you to look smart and smug, when you're possibly not! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-01 20:02:36
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jan 1 2009, 04:22 PM) [snapback]558173[/snapback]
A vast improvement. Keep up the good work.



This one comes from my schooldays:


Buzzelcrud.

It goes well with bloody!
mortonjag 2009-01-01 20:09:57
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 1 2009, 07:08 PM) [snapback]558230[/snapback]
Strathclyde regional council banned them in 1986 iirc.

I seldom used the basturt. I hope chrissiboi could confirm that. unsure.gif

Sometimes with "challenging" classes I showed how I could use the belt to turn a stick of blackboard chalk into dust.

The message got across and real education could continue.

I never had you down as a bottler Mr Bam. Think of all the fun you missed.
mortonjag 2009-01-01 20:14:33
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Jan 1 2009, 07:36 PM) [snapback]558244[/snapback]
I'm afraid it's by personal invite only and most that go are in the 20yrs + club.

This would have been Sean's virginal year but sigh yet again he fails to materialise biggrin.gif

Would have made a change from the usual old goat, Willy Man!
mortonjag 2009-01-01 20:20:07
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jan 1 2009, 08:09 PM) [snapback]558252[/snapback]
Like Davie Hayes?

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There are certain similarities-especially in the randomness of the final product. If Jimbo could ever learn to deal with a winger like Hannibal did, he could indeed become quite a player!
mortonjag 2009-01-01 20:44:46
QUOTE(Savo @ Jan 1 2009, 08:29 PM) [snapback]558259[/snapback]
Well done Junior, a reward well earned for the way he's acquitted himself over the piece.

Hear, hear. He's a young guy who's been asked to play an unnatural role, and IMO he's added to our defensive strength. I can't quite understand why so many seem to 'have it in' for him.
mortonjag 2009-01-01 20:53:11
QUOTE(Savo @ Jan 1 2009, 08:40 PM) [snapback]558264[/snapback]
I don't think it's some Machiavellian plot from the regime to sideline bonuses, mj.

This sort of idea seems to be very much DI's 'thing', in the same way that Jim would have never, ever have countenanced it.

I don't know if it's any use - the players will be the judge of that I suppose.

If even one of them buys into it and it improves them mentally it could be worthwhile, as confidence is such a massive part of the game, and sometimes a different voice in the dressing room can help.

I'm not knocking the concept Savo-far be it from me with my knowledge and experience wink.gif-but I'd have thought it would be better achieved on a one to one basis. Maybe that does happen. I just can't see the point of him sitting in the dugout unless it's to calm down Irons himself, and if that's the case he needs fired pronto! huh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-01 21:00:30
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 1 2009, 08:53 PM) [snapback]558273[/snapback]
She is not claiming to have a secret source, it was in todays paper. rolleyes.gif

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That makes Anus's comment look even more daft!
mortonjag 2009-01-01 21:02:36
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 1 2009, 08:54 PM) [snapback]558275[/snapback]
I'm sure we'll find out over the next day or two. No doubt Irons, and Grady himself, will know what the situation is.

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mortonjag 2009-01-01 21:12:08
QUOTE(Savo @ Jan 1 2009, 08:59 PM) [snapback]558278[/snapback]
Haha, DI does need to calm down just a wee bit - for his own sake. That has been commented upon by a good few folk, Morton fans and casual observers alike.

I imagine a lot of the stuff is done in the dressing room like you suggest. Maybe the fella just stands there during the game because he's going in with them at half and full time and likes to chip in with the odd bit of encouragement if one of the boys is having a 'head down' moment during play.

Probably so. He's on a hiding to nothing anyway. So long as we're winning Irons will get the credit, and if we go on a bad run we can all blame the Medicine Man! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-01 21:18:35 Warning System
The mods will issue warnings for bad behaviour on the forum and each user will see their own warning level when posting on the board. If the warning level reaches 10 then the user will be banned without exception.

Warnings may also be rescinded for good behaviour.

Users may also be banned without notice or explanation from the team if we feel it is in the best interests of the board.

So far as I'm aware I've only had ONE warning, and that was for 'takin the piss'!
mortonjag 2009-01-01 21:52:39
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jan 1 2009, 09:49 PM) [snapback]558309[/snapback]
aye me, 10% for posting an inappropriate joke!

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You've not got a score!

Maybe they're starting it alphabetically at Morto! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-02 09:53:32
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jan 1 2009, 10:48 PM) [snapback]558348[/snapback]
i see the jag has checked out my profile ....

checking to see if i got warned after tuesday night?
Of course you did....no need to answer

Haven't a clue what you're talking about. unsure.gif

QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 1 2009, 10:48 PM) [snapback]558351[/snapback]
Would have thought the fairest way to introduce this naughty step-o-meter would be to start everyone on zero before handing out stuff from 2006.

Come on the mods a fair deal for everyone

I find it absolutely astonishing that the Mods 'thought we could all see the rules' for over two years. I asked GKR for a copy of the rules recently and he had to paste a link back to when Nach0 was Moderator. I'm still trying to discover how this system works. Obviously you don't know you've been warned unless you've been alerted-that's been sorted now because another wee square will appear , and your warning percentage will rise. I gather you then click on the 'warning' logo to discover the nature of your latest crime!

So far I can't get that to work-I presume it will at some point, but here's my question, following on Chrissiboi's comment. Given that posters have been blissfully unaware that they have been warned, and have therefore had no opportunity to modify their behaviour until now, should the slate not be cleared. Out with the old and all that. Let's face it, we've obviously got a nice fresh broom on board and I'd like to feel he sweeps clean!
mortonjag 2009-01-02 10:17:40 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Just managed to open my little warning 'pop up'.

What a bloody joke-here was I thinking the poor new Rat was coming in with heavy claws-well apologies to GKR-it's the old Mods to blame. Four 'warnings' I never actually received (though I was additionally banned on two of those occasions!!!!!) for being ever so naughty. At least Tontastic has specified the exact nature of the crime-calling Scott Gillan a 'pouffe', and telling Jackton to 'take a flying f*ck to herself'. Those were the ones I was banned for.

Then there are two wee sneakies-one goes right back to the good old El Paso Nach0 rule-apparently I said something that was 'personally abusive' though the nature remains unspecified, and a similar comment from my old pal Hay Fever.

Oh well-at least it's all out in the open now, and that's certainly an improvement. Let's face it, it's quite a good idea to know you've been convicted and have a record, even if there was never a fair trial! ph34r.gif


mortonjag 2009-01-02 10:41:18
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 2 2009, 10:21 AM) [snapback]558503[/snapback]
Indeed. It's a kangaroo court mate. Next these powere crazy mods will be issuing fines.

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That would discriminate against the poor! thumbdown.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-02 10:45:21
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 1 2009, 11:15 PM) [snapback]558381[/snapback]
All the science teachers Tam included had a reputation of not to be messed with , obviously there were safety issues that some numpties wouldn't have realised without that reputation , quite a few pyramaniacs in my year .

Tam belted me for taking the pish out of a girl but it was a lesson about boundaries I suppose .
And I owe Tam an apology the pin strip broon suit was a maths teacher Wee Mick who had greasy hair and a strong smell of body odour



QUOTE(lofty @ Jan 2 2009, 12:06 AM) [snapback]558409[/snapback]
i think you all might be barking up the wrong tree, even from the first few sentences in the report you can begin to set up a picture. " one of their colleagues was sacked for wearing trainers and tracksuit trousers to work." " Adrian Swain, 56 " . A 56 year old guy called Adrian who wears trackies and trainers to work as a teacher says only one word to me, that word being peodophile. A second quote "The special needs teacher had refused to stop wearing the clothes, which failed the school's new dress code." tells us that he had ' special' needs, what were those ' special ' needs ? sexual ? physical ? mental ? and has he changed his clothes yet, and did the schools dress code consist of provocative clothing, leather chaps, gimp suit, nipple clamps etc etc. I think this report is just the tip of the iceberg concerning the amount of pervert teachers in our schools.


Is that a theory, or do you have any evidence to support your contention?
mortonjag 2009-01-02 10:53:42
QUOTE(Youngsa @ Jan 2 2009, 01:44 AM) [snapback]558461[/snapback]
I gave up the bevvy 18 months ago and its been hard work - lets not kid on. I was bordering on what can only be described as being an alcoholic and knew it was the best thing for me. You have to want to give it up - anything else is wasting your time. When I needed a drink I fooled my brain with non alcoholic lager as it felt like I was having a drink but wasnt. This has taken nearly all of the 18 months to pass. I've gone the full holiday period without a drink and with no intention of having one. It can be done but you have to be ready to commit to giving up - there are no half measures. Good luck to anyone who wants to give up. Stick witth it.



QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 2 2009, 09:54 AM) [snapback]558491[/snapback]
what I will suggest from there which you will find really helpful, and I know its an old cliche, but, really

TAKE ONE DAY AT A TIME



QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 2 2009, 10:34 AM) [snapback]558506[/snapback]
Firstly you have to want to do it, after that it's all about will power and having the support of family and friends if you feel you are about to fall by the way side.
A hobby or something new in your life usually goes a long way to keeping your mind of it.

Secondly I would also say you have to learn that you can go out and socialise without drinking even when others round about you are.


Wise words from guys who have been there, and if you REALLY want to stop and can't, you're almost certainly an alcohol addict, and might be best seeking help.


mortonjag 2009-01-02 10:59:22
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 2 2009, 10:46 AM) [snapback]558510[/snapback]
I too live a monastic life rolleyes.gif

Ironically i'm on 10% warn on P&B for using the word H U N S to describe Rangers fans. mad.gif

Serves you right! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-02 11:03:54
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 1 2009, 10:36 PM) [snapback]558337[/snapback]
Considering we have a whole month in which to find someone blessed with the ability to pass a football I think this is a premature signing.

...and presumably the owner of a purpose built lavatory pan.
mortonjag 2009-01-02 11:15:37
QUOTE(Savo @ Jan 1 2009, 11:11 PM) [snapback]558378[/snapback]
There was a bit more to it than that.

There always is with Morton! mad.gif

[quote name='TonInDublin' post='558487' date='Jan 2 2009, 09:19 AM']100% NOT what happened !!!

Indeed!



I thought Newby gave us much needed width-albeit he was labelled as a striker. He made intelligent runs off the ball and on several occasions got decent crosses into the box (in that capacity alone he was light years ahaead of Jimbo and Superkev).

He made a poor job of finishing the one to one at Dundee, and was blatantly singled out by a struggling Irons as his 'scapegoat'.

Chris Smith's error at Airdrie was IMO FAR worse, but the boy hadn't made a mistake up till that point, and he was immediately 'hooked'.

Maybe some folk like Irons man management style-it's all about opinions after all.
mortonjag 2009-01-02 12:11:45
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 1 2009, 10:35 PM) [snapback]558335[/snapback]
Well pardon me for stating the obvious, but I can hardly walk through them if there closed laugh.gif

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Poor show from the man who can walk on water! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-02 12:15:20
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 2 2009, 10:37 AM) [snapback]558507[/snapback]
Excellent news! I think this is great for team morale as he brings as much to the dressing room as he does on the park! Does the Record say how long?

Grady's keen on a career in football. He's turned things around for DI and the two seem to be getting results together. I could see him being with us for a while.
mortonjag 2009-01-02 12:25:51
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 2 2009, 11:02 AM) [snapback]558516[/snapback]
mortonjag, you know the rules, you should play by them, now if you want to be treated like a pouffe then continue to act like one, if this is the case then you can go take a flying feck to yourself. unsure.gif

ph34r.gif I sincerely hope you are not calling me a POUFFE! My father (god rest his soul) would be reporting you for casting asparagus on my sexy quality.

You are nothing but an effin' FOUTON. mad.gif

QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 2 2009, 11:12 AM) [snapback]558522[/snapback]
I cannot believe that I am on 0% given the amount of pish I write.

I probably need to take my abuse to a whole new level.

TonInDublin

It's not what you say it's the way that you say it.............


OOOOOOOOOOH Coakley, Boag, and Doaky!

QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 2 2009, 11:16 AM) [snapback]558526[/snapback]
I am in the same predicament, what do I have to do to get my score up ph34r.gif I feel left out here. sad.gif



You could call me a POUFFE and I'll report you! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-02 13:26:51
QUOTE(Thrax @ Jan 2 2009, 12:38 PM) [snapback]558558[/snapback]
your a POUFFE!!!! ph34r.gif

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QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 2 2009, 12:47 PM) [snapback]558564[/snapback]
Your a P O O F, G A Y B E N T S H O T, A R S E B A N D I T, J O B B Y J A B B E R, B R O W N B O M B E R.

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Thanks gents.

NOW-you'd imagine I only have to report you to the Mods, and before you can say 'Shoogly Sooks Soor Plooms' backwards, you'll have nice wee warnings. In fact you'd expect a vigilant Mod to spot such outrageous abuse without prompting!!!

Seemingly it doesn't quite work like that.

How do I know?

WELL, I've had torrents of unbelievably vicious and spiteful abuse over the past couple of years. Folks have wished death on me, threatened me with physical violence, wished I'd never been born, deliberately misled others about my qualifications, and tried to make a fool of my monkey, to mention merely a few examples.

Regular and rampant ageism has been blatantly ignored by the Mods, as have allusions to catheters, colostomies, etc. My identity has been hi-jacked, my name has regularly been publicised against my wishes, and one poster even attempted to show my picture in the Scapa crowd.

Now I confess that latterly I have spoken to the Mods on literally a couple of occasions.

I haven't complained at all about 99.9% of all that stuff because I believe I'm big enough and bad enough to handle it myself.

That's where it all goes wrong-others can dish it out, but can't take it back in quarter measure, and go squirming to the Mods like the pathetic and ineffectual worms they are.

As you can see from the examples quoted, the Mods have only ever taken action in absolutely OUTRAGEOUS circumstances! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-02 13:51:19 weather

Looks like the game will be on, with the minimum overnight temp forecast at -1C.


I'm really looking forward to this game. I thoroughly enjoyed Tuesday's and the atmosphere was superb. Hopefully we can keep on our winning ways, though Queens are desperate for points. I reckon it'll be very tight but believe we can nick three points with a single goal from the on form Spoonsy.
mortonjag 2009-01-02 14:01:06
QUOTE(GreatKingRat @ Jan 2 2009, 01:43 PM) [snapback]558576[/snapback]
Rather than dishing it out, I'd rather you reported such abuse so it can be looked in to properly. Whatever disillusions you may have for the Mods on here, I can assure you that there will be no biased decisions made regarding yourself, or anyone else. (Ernie, I'm aware that I haven't replied to your last PM yet, but only because I'm still technically on holiday for another 24 hours. tongue.gif)

I've also updated the board rules to try and fairly protect all members, I'd appreciate it if you all gave them a wee read over. smile.gif

As for the warning system, it's been around for a while as you can see, but only made public now. I've yet to issue any warnings myself, so all current messages will be from past moderators for which I cannot answer for. I'd also appreciate it if you recognised that as they are no longer Mods, they do not have to justify any decisions or messages left from when they were in charge.

I understand what you are saying. I'm afraid 'clyping' just goes against the grain with me, and I know many other posters feel the same way. During the past week another example of my being threatened (albeit in a veiled fashion) was picked `up by one of your colleagues. I took no part in that, and I appreciated his intervention. That has not, however, been the pattern previously.

Anyway, I hope you enjoy the rest of your break.
mortonjag 2009-01-02 14:15:18
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 2 2009, 01:41 PM) [snapback]558575[/snapback]
Newby was rotten in all the competitive games he played with us. Don't make him out to be better than he was so you can use him to have a go at Irons. The biggest mistake with Newby was signing him in the first place.

I refer you to posts made by TiD and Barbarossa. I gave my honest opinion about Newby with no hidden agenda.
mortonjag 2009-01-02 14:28:50 We've had several threads about alcohol in the past. In particular, I remember the one at the time of George Best's death, when several posters seemed to take delight in 'putting in the boot', with all the old stuff about 'lack of moral fibre', and vehement arguments that alcoholism is not an illness.

I found that strange in an age when addictive illnesses of all sorts are recognised as such by specialists, and designated so by the W.H.O.

It's good to hear posters talking openly about their problems, and in particular about one which has been a taboo subject for too long.

If you think you may have a problem, you probably do, and help is freely available those days.
mortonjag 2009-01-02 14:34:21
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 2 2009, 02:24 PM) [snapback]558591[/snapback]
Are you saying gay folk are weak and vulnerable? That could be construed as Homophobic. rolleyes.gif

EXACTLY.

There are plenty of big sturdy POUFFES around those days.

I recommend DFS as you don't have to pay till after yer deid!
mortonjag 2009-01-02 14:56:08 They talk about absent minded professors, but many are afflicted by this common complaint. As I grow older my 'forgetfulness' is worsening at an alarming rate. For example, I've this habit off pushing my reading glasses over the top of my head and then spending ages looking for the bloody things-and car keys-those can be a nightmare to find when they're still in the ignition!! rolleyes.gif

Even when I was younger, I was often very absent minded. I came home from work one night, and within minutes my ex wife had approached me rather angrily, demanding to know why there was a shirt and tie in the lavatory pan! It slowly dawned on me that I'd relieved myself (extensively) into the 'dirty wash' basket.

Anybody else suffer from forgetfulness? huh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-02 16:14:48
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Jan 2 2009, 03:04 PM) [snapback]558608[/snapback]
Hard? Aye, but the difference between what happened to them and myself is thatg they have associations to help them, decant them to other property till something else comes up..thats the law, for me I was just unlucky to be in a private let so I only had insurance to help with what was taken and lost.

The thing about these folk is that there is an emergancy social funding set aside-budget if you will-which will be enevitably recouped by the council/associations..

I deal with situations like this on a daily basis in my job so I know more of what happens to people in these circumstances than most of you would believe....and its not funny...its an eye opener...

I agree with you about the Club having no moral responsibility just because the disaster happened next door.

I agree with you that there is provision to help folk in those circumstances.

I also agree that for some-perhaps even the majority-this may come as something of a windfall.

The trouble is Vader, that for others this has been a genuine tragedy yet you appear to tar them all with the same brush.
mortonjag 2009-01-02 16:19:29
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 2 2009, 04:13 PM) [snapback]558635[/snapback]
Well done to those who turned up wink.gif

Was it nice and soft Ghost?
mortonjag 2009-01-02 16:25:57
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 2 2009, 04:22 PM) [snapback]558638[/snapback]
Park is fine and Dandy wink.gif

Good stuff-it should be game on then.
mortonjag 2009-01-02 18:59:05
QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Jan 2 2009, 06:18 PM) [snapback]558710[/snapback]
I heard the same smile.gif

after the drubbing by airdrie

3 or 4 players asked for transfer requests.

also heard that irons lost the plot at stewart that day at training and irons wasn't to happy when stewart stood up for himself.

Little boys, after all, should be seen and not heard! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-02 19:02:25
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 2 2009, 06:11 PM) [snapback]558706[/snapback]
1-0 Morton, Weatherson to score.

Copyright mortonjag!!!


Or great minds think alike?
mortonjag 2009-01-02 19:08:52 Hopefully Spoonsy will score another cracker tomorrow, proving that yet another striker is not the priority.
mortonjag 2009-01-02 19:23:14
QUOTE(Loveless @ Jan 2 2009, 05:28 PM) [snapback]558680[/snapback]
Professionally I want to be tossing six figures by the end of the year, which I can only start working towards after my current contract finishes in July, and will involve a lot of hard graft.

In my personal life everything is going pretty well, so don't see the need to make resolutions as such.


I always had you down as Bashful!
mortonjag 2009-01-02 19:31:37
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 2 2009, 07:10 PM) [snapback]558745[/snapback]
he's a total wind-up merchant davie!! he used to be a normal poster then changed his avatar and became a kinda right wing toff character happy.gif



A normal poster?

Somebody with a fishy Italian name and a poke of chips on his shoulder?

A normal poster?

Somebody who resents genuine success and wallows in inverted working class snobbery?

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mortonjag 2009-01-02 19:37:33 I asked her to turn round and she did so obligingly-then I typed in 'Bend forwards' and she told me to f*ck off.
mortonjag 2009-01-02 19:45:07
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 2 2009, 07:11 PM) [snapback]558746[/snapback]
I know of 4 strikers at the club; one doesn't play, two don't score and the other the nemesis of the fans. blush.gif

Nemesis
Noun

1. (Greek mythology) the goddess of divine retribution and vengeance.

2. Something causes misery or death; "the bane of my life".
mortonjag 2009-01-02 20:12:22
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jan 2 2009, 06:35 PM) [snapback]558724[/snapback]
Hopefully at the very least they sell / get rid of their highest wage earners and best players and get relegated pronto.

Oh how a good season it would be if Airdrie and Livi were relegated!! Two fake teams.



Airdrieonians FC played in four Scottish Cup Finals, winning the cup in 1924. In 1992/3 they played Sparta Prague in The European Cup Winners Cup - losing only 3-1 on aggregate!



The list of well-known ex- Airdrieonians FC players is impressive - Jock Ewart, Hughie Gallacher, Willie Russell, Bob McPhail, Jimmy Crapnell (9 caps - 1928-34), Bobby Flavell, Frank Brennan, Hughie Baird (53 goals in 1954/5), Ian Macmillan, Tommy Murray, Paul Jonquin (708 appearances 1962-79), Jim Black, Drew Jarvie, Derek Whiteford, Sandy Clark, John Martin (755 1980-99), Jimmy Sandison, David Fernandez, Owen Coyle and Sandy Stewart.

mortonjag 2009-01-02 20:17:11 [quote name='Loveless' date='Jan 2 2009, 07:59 PM' post='558771']
Bear in mind it is custom in my profession to give half my gross income to the parter/principal so not as much as it seems!

Dopey?



mortonjag 2009-01-02 20:25:35
QUOTE(Loveless @ Jan 2 2009, 08:01 PM) [snapback]558772[/snapback]
I'm not winding anyone up here.

I really do think teachers are vastly underpaid, compared with other professionals (Doctors etc).

One of my girlfriend's relatives is an assistant head teacher of a good sized school and I make more than him just now at only 23. It's not right.

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Pull the other one Loveless-you tooth mechanics are miles ahead of the poor Docs, yet can't hold a candle to the incomes generated by lawyers, accountants and such! laugh.gif Teachers, by any standards, are poorly rewarded.

QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 2 2009, 08:15 PM) [snapback]558777[/snapback]
Aye they all felt so bad about it they dished it out. It's sadistic and cruel and whilst things have gone too far the other way, it was nothing short of criminal assault.

IMO you need a right good thrashing for so deliberately twisting the truth. As Mr Bam has correctly indicated, the belt was largely a deterrent.

Mind you, if I had been a teacher in those days, I'd have had a field day! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-02 20:29:49
QUOTE(Loveless @ Jan 2 2009, 08:21 PM) [snapback]558782[/snapback]
Oh dear mortonjag! I meant partner (or partners).

I KNOW that-I wasn't pulling you up for spelling-merely alluding to your previous comment about tossing six figures by the end of the year! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-02 20:35:02
QUOTE(Mick @ Jan 2 2009, 08:18 PM) [snapback]558780[/snapback]
Different team to the current Airdrie.....but I'm sure you already knew that!?!?

The tradition is still there, and I reckon it's pretty disrespectful to rubbish them as Piehole did, when you think of where we were eight years ago.

Livingston-to some degree I don't think of them as ever having been a properly established Scottish Football Club. I'm sure many will disagree.
mortonjag 2009-01-02 20:38:37
QUOTE(Loveless @ Jan 2 2009, 08:27 PM) [snapback]558786[/snapback]
I earn more than all the accountants and lawyers I know, apart from my friend's dad who is a judge! The only person my age who comes close to earning what I do is a doctor, and as you can imagine he works a lot more hours than me!

Jolly good-I'm just about to p.m. you for a deposit on that Porsche in Eldon St. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-02 20:42:37
QUOTE(Loveless @ Jan 2 2009, 08:39 PM) [snapback]558794[/snapback]
Like I said the only tossing I'll be doing is half of my "income" to my boss. Only really take home six figures if you own your own place.

Madame Fifi told me that too!
mortonjag 2009-01-02 20:45:49
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 2 2009, 08:40 PM) [snapback]558795[/snapback]
Aye just as being shot at dawn was a deterrent for supposed acts of cowardice

Exactly-there should be far more 'shooting at Dawn dawn' pour encourager les autres.
mortonjag 2009-01-02 20:48:06
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 2 2009, 08:46 PM) [snapback]558800[/snapback]
Today I had to go a walk up to Devol so I walked up the cycle track from Lady Octavia Park.

I've always had a fear of dogs since I was young. I remember there was a bbig alsation in our street and I ran past it when I was about 5 and it chased me sensing my fear and bit me from behind.

Well anyway, today I had to nervously walk past about a dozen different owners out taking their dogs for a walk. Sometimes I was really scared, I dont know if the owners realise what effect they have on people liek me, but I know they need to take their pets for a walk, and I can hardly just stay in the house either.

Is there a name for a fear of dogs ? Do you have any advice for it and do you have this fear too ?



Feegiephobia.
mortonjag 2009-01-02 21:50:05
QUOTE(Loveless @ Jan 2 2009, 08:41 PM) [snapback]558796[/snapback]
Haha I wish.

I've also always thought that hospital doctors are grossly underpaid for what they do as well.

Correct me if I'm wrong but does a consultant not make something like £90k? Obviously fantastic money but I don't really think it reflects their expertise or workload.

I've lost touch with salary scales. Published figures for Consultants don't take account of private work etc., etc.

You'll never get agreement about what folk are worth-I've long since realised that it's pointless arguing about it.
mortonjag 2009-01-02 21:56:36
QUOTE(Deego @ Jan 2 2009, 09:44 PM) [snapback]558819[/snapback]
Aye...

This the same Jim that texts me asking if I'm going up to his as he's choking for a ride at me?
The same one that rubs his c*** against my arse on the bus?

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mortonjag 2009-01-03 12:43:22
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 2 2009, 10:58 PM) [snapback]558848[/snapback]
This is largely keech and Mortonjag is right! Airdrie survived as a club in the only way they could. Clydebank were already dead all bar the last rites and Airdrie were able to use their ticket to stay afloat. Would any of us have rejected that option at the end of the Scott era if that was all that was open to us? Airdrie have as big a tradition in Scottish Football as us and its disrespectful to deny it.

Livi on the other hand are a manufactured club with no real history to speak of. However, they've built a fanbase equivalent to Airdrie and better than Clyde. Who deserves to survive more? You've got to feel sorry for any fan whose club is threatened with going out of business. Maybe another comparison is to consider whether Livi or Stranraer/Forfar/Montrose/Cowdenbeath/East Stirling/others similar are better for Scottish football?

I would prefer Livi to fail than Airdrie but who would I save faced with a choice between any third division team and Livi? Not sure!


Exactly, and having worked in the town for ten years I KNOW how local people feel.


QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jan 3 2009, 07:16 AM) [snapback]558917[/snapback]
Nice to start a year in complete accord with Tonsilitis. Airdrie did what they needed to and if we're honest most of us would have done the same in those circumstances. As for the Livi's, ICT's, Ross Cty etc, I'll never get used to them being part of the leagues.

Correct

QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Jan 3 2009, 11:09 AM) [snapback]558963[/snapback]
And now they're deid.

The Airdrieonians FC tradition is alive and kicking at New Broomfield. Go there and check! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-03 12:46:56
QUOTE(Muz @ Jan 3 2009, 12:15 PM) [snapback]559004[/snapback]
First Division Strugglers? dry.gif

AYE! Take off yer black tinted specs! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-03 12:54:46
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jan 3 2009, 12:36 AM) [snapback]558878[/snapback]
It's an anagram of am gay lad

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and glad 'm gay!
mortonjag 2009-01-03 13:06:02 Fear of dogs seems quite common yet it's pretty irrational. Contrary to what some appear to think, dogs don't go about looking for humans to sink their teeth into. Like most animals, they will only attack when afraid or cornered.

Dogs make loyal and faithful companions- they are far more honourable and trustworthy than Homo Sapiens.
mortonjag 2009-01-03 13:11:58 I wish him well. This must surely be last chance saloon for an undoubted talent who just never seemed to get it right.
mortonjag 2009-01-03 13:15:11
QUOTE(Muz @ Jan 3 2009, 01:10 PM) [snapback]559035[/snapback]
I wouldnt say we were strugglers based on the last few weeks?

Well we're struggling to move up the league-we're not exactly sweeping all before us. A good victory today will increase our credibility in neutral eyes.
mortonjag 2009-01-03 13:31:26
QUOTE(biglarry @ Jan 3 2009, 01:12 PM) [snapback]559038[/snapback]
mixed allegiances then ? perhaps the base of your argument is laid out for all to see. A closet nazi.

No mixed allegiances. I also worked in Coatbridge for almost ten years!!! blink.gif

Furthermore this 'Nazi' nonsense is a total myth propagated within the small minds of a small band of Ton supporters.

In that respect it's a very common phenomenon. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-03 21:18:34 That's the second game in a row when he's scorned a golden opportunity by trying to land the ball in the Port. Maybe not quite in the Chris Smith/Jon Newby punishment bracket, but the guy's finishing is utterly woeful. He contributed very little to today's game-superkev wasn't much better. We have four weeks to get at least one winger. Robinson didn't have a decent save to make today. Tuffey didn't have a decent save to make on Tuesday, and Spoonsy STILL has three goals to his credit. When will the blinkered fools waken up to the fact that we won't score more goals unless we're putting shots on target and our strikers can't do that without a regular supply.

We DON'T need another striker. Get shot of Jimbo and Kev now and buy a couple of footballers. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-03 21:43:32
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jan 3 2009, 05:29 PM) [snapback]559136[/snapback]
taken from my post on the match thread

Irons decision to change to 3-5-2 cost us 2 points in that game in my opinion. The first goal would never have happened, as Stewart didn't know if he should close down or not, and he was also forced too deep for the 2nd goal. Other than that they didn't even threaten us. I know that we were missing McGregor, but just play Walker at right back and bring Smith back in at left back, but Irons is too stubborn to bring him right back into the team. Stupid decision that cost us 2 valuable points.

My thoughts exactly. Irons is a stubborn goat!

QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Jan 3 2009, 07:51 PM) [snapback]559242[/snapback]
Full-time - Morton 2-2 Irons dry.gif mad.gif mad.gif He was Queen's MotM for me.

Anyway to the game - the players took a good 30 minutes to get to grips with the tacticsmagician's bizarre formation, by which time we were 2-0 down. The lack of a right-back and cover for whoever it was meant to be was embarrassing - QoS ought to have added a 3rd right on half-time - thank feck for Peter's header.

Second half and the referee got steadily worse, whilst Queen's time-wasting was disgusting to watch (going to the corner flag with 10 minutes to go ffs!). The crowd counting out the 10 yards was hilarious, not long after Jenks had nearly argued his way into an early bath.
Good to see a team that wasted so much time getting f**ked over by the last kick of the ball. Thinking about it - had the guys they subbed ran off the pitch then they would have won. laugh.gif Ironic too that we s cored from the one throw-in that Paartalu didn't take.
I don't remember Robinson claiming crosses like that when he was with us. dry.gif

Pleased with the point - well done to the players.
Irons can go anytime.

Preferably SOON!

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 3 2009, 08:29 PM) [snapback]559265[/snapback]
QotS played 4-5-1. If we had played 4-4-2 we would have had 4 defenders looking after one man, and a 4 man midfield up against 5 QotS midfielders.
That would have mean't too many defenders at the back and our lackluster midfield being over-ran by not having enough men in their to cover.

The tactics were spot on. What let us down was players not doing their job and picking their players up.

For the first goal, their player picked his spot. He had acres of space to make his mind up where he was going to put the ball.
The second goal was similar in the fact they had another player in acres of space, right on the 6 yard line. How Cuthbert never shouted for cover is beyond me as he was standing right in front of him !.

Sometimes you have to change the system to suit the game and the tactics of the other team.

Oh dear Bannock Baws-back to the old Procrustean tricks I see. The tactics were NOT spot on. We were within 30 seconds of a defeat with ONLY ONE MAN TO BLAME. Your statement is absolutely ridiculous!




A tactical turnip-that's what Irons is, and WTF was Jenkins subbed when we desperately needed a goal. He'd already had two on target-one an absolute thunderbolt which was brilliantly blocked. Was he injured, or did Irons just want another wee shot at the long throw ins which NEVER work. I couldn't help laughing when Spoonsy's second goal game off a throw in by Big Stu!!!

Both Jimbo and Kev were utter crap-we needed different options up front, and LEAFY sat on the bench for the full 90 minutes-he's a FAR better winger than Finlayson for starters! ohmy.gif


Breaks my heart to think that we threw away two valuable points today and none of the players was to blame because they all put in a shift and did their best. By Irons' own rules, HE SHOULD BE DROPPED.


One final point.



SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A STRIKER!




PS Alex Walker is a FAR better full back than DM even if neither's a full back!
mortonjag 2009-01-03 21:53:12
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 3 2009, 09:40 PM) [snapback]559315[/snapback]
If it's best for the team then I'm sure Irons will have no hesitation in dropping him.

Proving that you don't know what you are talking about. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-03 22:05:47 We need two decent wing backs, a holding midfield playmaker, and two proper wingers. I know it's impossible to get all of those in one fell swoop, but I wish that once and for all we could bury the RIDICULOUS notion that yet another striker is a priority. If Spoonsy was getting a half decent supply right now he'd probably be the league's top scorer-AND Grady, Wakey, and LEAFY would get their share-guaranteed.

C'mon DI-it's obvious you haven't a clue about tactics but at least the boys are now playing well for Mr Grady and that 'shrink' guy, so you just have to make two or three wise signings before the end of January, and let the lads do your job for you! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-04 09:58:51
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Jan 3 2009, 01:18 PM) [snapback]559042[/snapback]
Yantorno is a central midfielder, right?

Do we really need another one while we have McGuffie/Masterton/Paartalu/Jenkins? I'm concerned that Irons hasn't got the priorities right. unsure.gif

Wrong! He'd be a superb signing as our 'supply line' to the strikers at the moment is virtually non-existent.
mortonjag 2009-01-04 10:04:22
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jan 3 2009, 10:10 PM) [snapback]559329[/snapback]
ZZZzzzzzz

Anyway, haven't you told us 25000 times that the chairman makes all the signings? Make your mind up oh Jolly one.

I take it you can't think for yourself.
mortonjag 2009-01-04 10:14:00
QUOTE(biglarry @ Jan 3 2009, 09:26 PM) [snapback]559313[/snapback]
10 years in Airdrie ... .. .. . 10 years in Coatbridge .. .. was this missionary work ? or community service ?



I was invited to join three other gentleman in a partnership, and I suppose it was a bit of both.

Missionary-well most of the young female patients were frequently in the position of needing contraception.

Community service-I'm sure the Airdrieonians would have knighted me for my efforts in that respect. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-04 10:46:21
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 4 2009, 10:00 AM) [snapback]559450[/snapback]
Where do we start with this one? Irons bleats on in the press ad nauseum about a settled back four helping to make Cappielow a "fortress" then out of the blue goes and changes to a back 3. If McGregor wasn't available then either Walker or McGuffie could've filled the right back spot.

By the time Queens had scored their second, Masterton, McGuffie and Jenkins had swapped positions about three times. Irons had a go at Jenkins for not covering for the first goal and Jenkins had a go back. greacan had a go at everyone despite failing to step out when both Shimmin and Walker were behind him. Greacan was back to his old best yesterday, posted missing on several occassions and generally looked lost. The defence was more composed when Shimmin dropped deeper to play as a sweeper, a role he looked more than comfortable with.

Up front thankfully we have Weatherson back at his best. Games like yesterday and Tuesday where we can see how much he has to give makes many of us so frustrated and fed up when he goes off the rails. Wake is a nightmare and if Mentaljag still thinks we do not need a centre forward when all we have as a viable partner to Peter is a 37 year old who cannot last 90 minutes then he needs a doc himself.

McAllister never beat his man once and needs to find his confidence and belief again. He is becoming very frustrating as he is on the verge of a big move but if his recent form continues, he'll struggle to get a game at Cappielow soon.

As for anyone defending Irons' tactics yesterday - total pish. At home in this league we should be playing to our strengths rather than trying to combat a weak and ageing Queens team low on wins and confidence. A settled side is what's needed not more of the McInally tinkering we've become acustomed to over the last few seasons.

Star men yesterday - Shimmin and Weatherson by a country mile.



Wake, LEAFY, JG, and BG are our other strikers Ratarse. Strikers' form comes and goes as you very well know and Wakey is NOT a nightmare by a long chalk. If it had not been for the hairy one we'd probably now be in division two where players like McAlister, Finlayson, and McGregor could again look semi-competent.

A 'settled' side is a wonderful idea-would you like me to send down a shipment of valium?

We desperately need changes to the supply line for our FIVE strikers. That is by far the biggest priority, and is staring intelligent folk in the face! laugh.gif


mortonjag 2009-01-04 10:55:30 Chisholm has today lost my respect. He's come over as a liar and a griping wean. How can he possibly agree that Shimmin won the ball fairly yet accuse him in the same breath of foul play. Even that innumerate wee fanny in black thought the challenge was OK.

That's the sort of irresponsible comment that gets players a bad name with other fans and Refs before they've even seen the boy play.

I know it was probably said in the heat of the moment, but I think Mr Rae should demand an explanation from his namesake.

I'm sure even DI wouldn't go making excuses like that! blink.gif

mortonjag 2009-01-04 14:01:37
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 3 2009, 05:33 PM) [snapback]559140[/snapback]
I never could understand why people get sentimental about pets, giving them human attributes, even loving them, while they are happy to eat other animals. A pig is probably more intelligent than a dog or a cat but the poor creature ends up in a sandwich. laugh.gif

I suppose it's much the same with MidTON's homophobia!

Don't try to understand it Mr Edwards-just accept that it takes all kinds! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-04 14:13:49
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jan 4 2009, 10:57 AM) [snapback]559465[/snapback]
Totally agree with your suggestions MJ, although if we had the chance to improve our squad by signing a striker who is better than we already have ie Elliot then I would welcome that as well.

By saying wing backs do you mean full backs? We have 2 decent wing backs in McAlister and Super Kev Dont think Irons could justify 2 wbs and 2 wingers. although 2 full backs and 2 wingers are defo a priority

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I thought the term 'full back' had disappeared-that IS really what I meant, though I've made it quite clear that I don't expect us to fill all the gaps immediately. I'd like to see a proper left winger, a proper right back, and a midfield play maker as the priorities.

I've NEVER said, or suggested, that I'd knock back an even better striker-I merely feel that the present boys will do a good enough job if the supply is fixed.

A wee footnote:

I genuinely meant the thread for folk who are willing to think for themselves. Cawstick presumably has an opinion but chose to behave like an imbecile! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-04 18:12:03
QUOTE(C B @ Jan 4 2009, 12:58 PM) [snapback]559503[/snapback]
I find it hillarious how people ignore McAllister's underachieving to pick on a player who has less natural ability. Kev covers more ground than anyone in the squad (just watch him when we have a corner) and puts Jim to shame week in week out imo.

Things Kev is better at than Jim........
Defensive cover
Crossing (ok only just)
Anticipation (Jim's is the worst of any footballer I have ever seen)
Reading the game
Shooting

Things Jim is better at than Kev.......
Beating his man (when he's in the mood)

Ok maybe Kevin isn't the answer to our problems but he's a damn sight more productive than some of the other passengers we have, yet he still gets the biggest slagging on this messageboard - a bit harsh for someone that is 100% commited EVERY week mad.gif
Feel free to read this over and over MJ and Deego wub.gif




I suppose that in a world of keech players you'd self appoint as chief proctologist! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-04 18:25:55 FAO Claymore C*ck:


You could always start a wee poll to see where posters think DI is good and bad. I no longer start polls on the advice of my community Bobby.
mortonjag 2009-01-04 18:31:53
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 4 2009, 03:04 PM) [snapback]559545[/snapback]
I tend to disagree, Airdrieonians history and tradition died along with their name and debt, I agree with Piehut on this one.
The team they put out of business was not shy in doing the same to East Stirlingshire hence the reason I have less sympathy for Clydebank than I would have for another club in a similar situation.

If an Airdrie supporter started opining about the Ton I'd tell him where to go! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-04 18:37:57
QUOTE(Pedro1874 @ Jan 4 2009, 06:23 PM) [snapback]559630[/snapback]
Unfortunatly i wasn't at this apparently interesting display of football/reffereeing, But it seems like we (morton fans) are complainign about EVERY descision made my Mr Crawford With the exeption of The challenge on arbuckle.....? Seems wierd to me, to other teams this may seem like Major Bias,

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Has he changed his name already? Not surprised!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif


He was f*cking abysmal, and 'Aye' he DID get it right re. Dom's tackle.
mortonjag 2009-01-04 18:59:32
QUOTE(Pedro1874 @ Jan 4 2009, 06:42 PM) [snapback]559642[/snapback]
Nicholls i do apologise

He's been here before!


good goal?
mortonjag 2009-01-04 19:11:54
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 4 2009, 07:02 PM) [snapback]559649[/snapback]
What a blitheringly stupid statement. Irons is at fault for not suitably organising the players but 3-5-2 in itself is a perfectly viable formation. Indeed, given we have terrible players in wide areas it would be perhaps sensible to limit those starting places to 2 instead of 4. dry.gif



Sorry, no entries for blitheringly were found. Have you considered subscribing to Chambers Reference Online for access to a larger and more regularly updated version of the Chambers Dictionary? blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-04 19:18:01
QUOTE(Savo @ Jan 4 2009, 07:06 PM) [snapback]559652[/snapback]
It was a strong, committed challenge but looked perfectly legitimate to me as well.
There was no way Shimmin went in with any malice and it was just unfortunate that, as Andy Gray would say, there was a coming together and Arbuckle got hurt.
He had a tackle the exact same at Firhill earlier in the season which had the entire Jackie Husband stand on its feet but there was nothing wrong with that one either.

To quote Johnnie Boyd and Davie Hayes:


That lad shows promise! laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-04 19:35:32
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jan 4 2009, 05:49 PM) [snapback]559613[/snapback]
Just spent the afternoon in the company of 2 of Mortonjags cohorts trying to get to the bottom of a leg/back injury, useless to a man.

In the end they loaded me up with Morphine and clearly wanted rid.

Basically no further forward so I'm going to try and get an MRI scan. Going private goes against the grain but I can't wait the 18 week NHS lead time.

Anyone used them before, got an idea of what prices to expect?

The boys are just home and said you're a grumpy old bugger!

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Your comments are absolutely typical of the lack of gratitude manifold in today's N.H.S. patients.

Wonder why they 'clearly wanted rid of you'! ph34r.gif

Why would posters on a scabby wee footie forum know the prices for private medical treatment-I think you just came on here to have a good girn! laugh.gif


P.S.

If you wish to discuss the matter with a qualified physician, you could p.m. mortonjag, but bear in mind his disclaimer. wink.gif



mortonjag 2009-01-04 19:43:11
QUOTE(Yoda @ Jan 4 2009, 06:39 PM) [snapback]559641[/snapback]
Totally agree with you Ian, I can't stand dog owners who let their dogs run at you and then stand back and say "he won't touch you" It's not the touching that worries me it's the sinking the teeth in at speed that I imagine to be the problem!!!!!

I do believe you can tell the dog's nature by the responsibility of the owner. The more the dog reacts to the owner's voice, the more chance there is that the dog will be better controlled and have a better nature.

Taking the dog for a walk? Make sure it will respond to your voice and return to heel at your command. Nobody wants to be annoyed by someone else's problem pet.

It's clear that you're not a doggy lover!

I've never had a problem with dogs 'running at me', though I've occasionally been pissed off by some scabby mutt trying to shag my leg while I was attempting to perform an examination. It's difficult to boot those wee c*nts to f*ck when their mistresses are looking on.
mortonjag 2009-01-04 19:55:10
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 4 2009, 07:21 PM) [snapback]559658[/snapback]
No I haven't, as I'd like to think I'm not a sad decrepit old man with nothing better to do with his time than search online dictionaries for suffix correction purposes. HTH. smile.gif

Inaccurate and ageist as always my little one! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-04 19:59:08
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 3 2009, 06:11 PM) [snapback]559180[/snapback]
No chance of this happening but hey, we love a rumour right?

I heard we're signing Simon Mensing from St Johnstone.

Greacen's Genitals becomes Dobbie's Jobbies!
mortonjag 2009-01-04 20:08:38
QUOTE(Yoda @ Jan 4 2009, 07:58 PM) [snapback]559678[/snapback]
No - I do like dogs, but I prefer dogs who have considerate owners. It is never the animals fault.

I agree entirely with that, and the same applies to children.
mortonjag 2009-01-04 20:14:44
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 4 2009, 08:10 PM) [snapback]559684[/snapback]
Why not? Turning a blind eye to unnecessary suffering, just resigned to it, or is the taste of steak so good that you say 'feck it, I don't care' ? biggrin.gif Or maybe every time you eat beef you offer a prayer to the beast that was sacrificed, like the American Indians did. Whatever, it's your choice, your conscience and your karma.

Mr Edwards, I put it to you that if you were starving to death and your only means of survival was eating beastie, beastie would be eaten! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-04 20:41:17 23rd Man

When most fans think about a football match, they tend to think about the two teams, made up of 22 players. But are we not forgetting about someone … the referee?

The referee is the 23rd man on the field of play and his contribution to the sport is sometimes not given the recognition it deserves. The attributes required of a referee are many, but first and foremost he will be a football enthusiast with a deep desire to be involved in the best team sport in the world. He will know the Laws of the Game backwards but equally as important is the ability to apply them fairly and skillfully.

Judge, jury, peacemaker and diplomat are all titles that could apply to our 23rd man, but the top referees must have additional qualities such as excellent fitness, personality and man-management skills to be able to officiate at the highest levels of the game.


...or so say Specsavers-but then they would-wouldn't they?

This old chestnut comes up every couple of months, and every time I ask myself if I am being unfair, and if our Refs are actually good at their jobs and I'm simply biased, and every time the same answer comes back!!!

The standard of refereeing in the Scottish 1st division is atrocious, and yesterday was no exception. It's a closed shop of course with lying cheats like Craig Thomson (Hamilton v Morton) being cosseted and protected by their employer, so what chance does the fan have to make changes?

I could sympathise if those guys were on a pittance, but for yesterday's display of crass incompetence, the fanny in black will have received, I understand,three or four hundred pounds! ph34r.gif

mortonjag 2009-01-04 20:49:11
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 4 2009, 08:22 PM) [snapback]559687[/snapback]
Of course it would. It's the holocaust of suffering that is factory farming that I object to. If we all had to hunt and kill our own meat then there'd be a lot less of it eaten, don't you think? We might be a tad healthier for it too, think of all the exercise involved in chasing, catching and wringing a chicken's neck, then plucking and gutting it. That's got to better for you than getting in the car and driving down to KFC. laugh.gif

I'm glad you've cleared that up.

I never really had you down as a complete eejit!

BTW if you're really into wringing chicken's necks, I could pass you a couple of names! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-05 12:37:09
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jan 4 2009, 10:07 PM) [snapback]559725[/snapback]
Quite the opposite Jolly Jag. I'm one of those unfortunate polite types that plays by the rules and subsequently usually gets the s***ty end of the stick while obnoxious self centred eejits get anything they want to shut them up. You know what I mean.

As I said it goes against the grain for me to go private, I've nothing but respect for the NHS but this week and esp today I've had a shocker.

As for today, after all the painkillers they could give me I still couldn't stand up, I told them this and was basically left there to get on with it.
Not even the offer of a chair and some assistance to get me out the building, the missus had to go and find one.

Maybe at that point I should've become one of the ungrateful aggressive types you've described but that's not me.
Cheers SramTon. I tried them before I started the thread but there's no-one avaialble to discuss it until tomorrow. £350 sad.gif

Of course I know what you mean. Back pain can be an absolute c*nt! Sorry to hear you've been disappointed, and as I said, feel free to p.m. me if you feel I can help you with any questions.
mortonjag 2009-01-05 12:58:06 Gary out with broken leg

The bad news has now been confirmed--Gary Arbuckle's leg is broken in two places. Gary returned to the Queens' starting line-up only yesterday but after scoring our second goal was flattened by a tackle from behind in the second half and stretchered off. Following surgery this afternoon it was stated that he'll be out for the rest of the season.



That's what they're claiming on the Doonhamers' web site, and IMHO that is libel, and should be retracted forthwith.

I'm sure nobody is more distraught today that Shimmin himself, and I'm equally sure that all decent Ton fans feel for the young boy whose leg has been broken, but those things DO happen.

Dom challenges robustly but is not a 'dirty' player-how many times has he been carded this season? The fact of the matter is that if Gary had managed to 'ride' the tackle (don't forget Dom got the ball fairly), everybody would be saying-'cracking tackle'.

That's the size of it, and Q.O.S. have some apologising to do IMO.
mortonjag 2009-01-05 16:03:26
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 4 2009, 08:50 PM) [snapback]559701[/snapback]
Cheers Mentaljag. Some chicken, some neck. laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2009-01-05 16:14:22
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 5 2009, 03:38 PM) [snapback]559933[/snapback]
Getting better!

Dobbie's danglers? biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-05 16:17:13 What's the lad's name, and is he a virgin? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-05 16:20:26
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 5 2009, 04:15 PM) [snapback]559944[/snapback]
Must do better, Douglas.

OK-we'll change players-Jenkins' Jobbies. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-05 16:27:31


QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 5 2009, 12:53 PM) [snapback]559858[/snapback]
Because it's the kind of response that his self-regarding piety merited.

The original post may well have been well-intentioned but if you can read his latter posts without rolling your eyes then you're clearly a beter man than I rolleyes.gif


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mortonjag 2009-01-05 19:41:14
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 5 2009, 04:56 PM) [snapback]559964[/snapback]
You can say it all you want but certain posters only see what they want to see. Weatherson should have got MotM. Shimmin and Greacen had excellent games after the first 20 minutes but for those 20 minutes there was a lot of indecision and not knowing whether to come or stay which basically cost us 2 goals and 2 points. As for the rest, McGuffie had a best of the rest game in my opinion, especially when he took over as right back in effect. Masterton had a decent game also and did more in open play than usual although his dead balls were a bit off for him today. Jenkins imho had a nightmare. Finlayson and McAllister were both fairly ineffective today because Queens had learned their lesson last time and were doubled up on both of them. Walker did fine as did Cuthbert who did not have a lot to do. Wake was OK but needs to be looking for the pass rather than just getting the head down and running straight into a posse of defenders.

We are not far away from a decent team out there. I hope Irons also learns that meddling with a winning formation is not good. I noticed in the Telegraph he said that changes were forced on him by McGregor's injury but for me that only meant Smith at left back and either Walker or McGuffie at right back. I still say if ever there was a case of the ponts being lost by the manager, Saturday was it.

More interested in his own ego (punishing Smith for being naughty) than anything else IMO. ph34r.gif

Furthermore DM is a good third and reasonable second division player, but hasn't the pace for this league and the sooner some folk admit that, and stop rewarding loyalty, the better for the club.
mortonjag 2009-01-05 19:44:02 I can't remember hearing that done before in all my years at Cappielow, and the Stand was well involved too. It just seemed to come from nowhere. I'm sure twinkle toes got the message! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-05 19:49:19
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 5 2009, 06:11 PM) [snapback]559982[/snapback]
^^^
off meds

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mortonjag 2009-01-05 19:51:55
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 5 2009, 07:25 PM) [snapback]560009[/snapback]
Feck laugh.gif

You have a flaming cheek!
mortonjag 2009-01-05 19:59:29 I still believe we'll finish 5th!
mortonjag 2009-01-05 20:00:31
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 5 2009, 07:58 PM) [snapback]560019[/snapback]
Probably counting his teeth.

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mortonjag 2009-01-05 20:20:24
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jan 5 2009, 10:52 AM) [snapback]559817[/snapback]
Have you got a web-cam? ph34r.gif tongue.gif

While you're preparing, ask if you can match up to this big tit!
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mortonjag 2009-01-05 21:06:13 Just applied for central heating maintenance and got a nice email back from this guy. Just as well he's not in the Govan Polis!


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mortonjag 2009-01-05 21:09:21
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jan 5 2009, 08:58 PM) [snapback]560036[/snapback]
who? Gary Glitter?

You're getting mixed up with Johnson's baby powder dear!
mortonjag 2009-01-05 22:11:46 I heard a wee whisper that it's because Scott Struthers has chronic laryngitis. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-06 08:59:27 Fing is rather upset Willy Man-that's his cousin Sage on the Telly. Strangely enough Sage is here on holiday, and Munx and Fing have agreed to have a fotie took along with him, which they intend to post later! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-06 09:05:42
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 6 2009, 07:37 AM) [snapback]560119[/snapback]
Manchesterton I think you'll become more and more aware the longer you stay up here and use forums such as this one that a lot of Scots use humor as a natural response to a tragedy or setback, and seems to develop in a predictable way a bit like the way Nach0 and Mortonjag went about their postings. The process is the same whether the initial setback is a horrible accident, a layoff, a broken heart or a national tragedy at some stage people have to move on and this is a way they deal with it, this is not just people who who were not effected directly but the victims themselves. What you saw is typical of how a lot of people here do things.

Precisely!

My old and dearly departed friend Jim Ross, who worked offshore, often commented that you knew folk were coming to terms with the Piper Alpha disaster when the first jokes started a week or so later.


Here are the facts as I understand them, and I apologise in advance if I've got any of this wrong.

Certain families were made homeless because of a fire in a block of flats which just happened to be near Cappielow. So far as I know that is the only connection they had with our club. I'm led to understand that nobody was injured, let alone killed in the incident. FAR more horrific tragedies occur day and daily in Inverclyde, even if they usually fail to make headlines.

Somebody suggested a 'bucket collection' to help those people.


THAT AND THAT ALONE IS WHAT THIS THREAD IS ABOUT!

I sense that some are (possibly reasonably) sceptical about the net loss/gain made by the victims, and note that the cause of the fire has not yet been publicised by the authorities.

I don't think anybody has attempted to dilute the loss suffered by those people-I certainly have not, but I do confess to some amusement at the antics of the thread originator.

mortonjag 2009-01-06 09:17:01 How come the stewards let folk in with those ricketies when ladies have small bottles of perfume confiscated because they 'could be used as weapons'? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-06 09:48:12
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 6 2009, 08:18 AM) [snapback]560120[/snapback]
General morton chatter with this pish dry.gif

He's famous for his colossal boobs.
mortonjag 2009-01-06 10:18:27
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Jan 6 2009, 09:52 AM) [snapback]560141[/snapback]
Your prob right Cawston, but its worth investigating at your work. As i said, i had already had 2 ops (with an MRI scan beforehand, which i didn't have to wait for on the NHS coz my lateral ligament damage was so severe apparently), and i was still allowed to sign up for BUPA. I was going through NHS rehab at the time and then used the BUPA one as an extra (although the NHS physio was excellent as well to be honest). Worth a shot anyway, you never know!

I'd advise caution when joining BUPA or similar. The first point of course is that all they can do is get you treatment more quickly than on the NHS.

More importantly, they are in it to make money. It's totally the responsibility of the prospective client to reveal ALL RELEVANT INFORMATION when applying. I've known folk who joined in good faith, completing the application form honestly and fully as they thought, to have payment refused after treatment because they had failed to mention something they thought didn't matter.

One good example was a lady who joined through her work when she was in her twenties, at which point she had minor varicose veins. She didn't see that as 'an illness' and indeed had been reassured by her GP. The condition worsened rapidly following a couple of pregnancies and significant weight gain, and she had surgery at the Nuffield some ten years after joining BUPA. They refused to pay out and she was left with a bill for-as I recall -£600, and that was many years ago.

All because her original GP had recorded her visit with what was at the time a trivial condition.
mortonjag 2009-01-06 10:27:28
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jan 6 2009, 10:25 AM) [snapback]560155[/snapback]
Careful. You'll be getting banned again. rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2009-01-06 10:31:00
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Jan 6 2009, 10:17 AM) [snapback]560150[/snapback]
listen, when MORTON fans opine about the 'Ton you usually tell 'em where to go....... tongue.gif

Nonsense. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-06 10:35:23
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Jan 6 2009, 10:28 AM) [snapback]560158[/snapback]
so what's the ad - is it for some kind of bitter?? laugh.gif


voila
mortonjag 2009-01-06 10:40:52
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Jan 6 2009, 10:34 AM) [snapback]560162[/snapback]
laugh.gif Thank you.

I rest my case - that's it over there, beside the coffee table.

link!
mortonjag 2009-01-06 10:48:46 I'm with CHC on this. Munny's just munny after all.
mortonjag 2009-01-06 10:57:26
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 6 2009, 10:48 AM) [snapback]560171[/snapback]
I can remember in 1982-3 it was so cold one night that the battery acid in my car froze.

Not terribly cold today. Only about -5C in Dumfries this morning. I put on a long sleeved T shirt and long trousers and it's fine. Going for a swim in the Nith later.

I'd at least put on a woolly bathing suit if I were you. You could also rub yourself down with margarine.
mortonjag 2009-01-06 11:28:30
QUOTE(TigerTon @ Jan 6 2009, 11:17 AM) [snapback]560187[/snapback]
http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/ho...icle2098261.ece

Says it was a tackle from the side. Finally some sensible talking.

Unfortunately Gary's comments don't ameliorate this piece of tripe by the reporter.


Queen of the South hitman Arbuckle sustained the sickening fracture following a brutal challenge from Morton stopper Shimmin at the weekend.

The Queens boy is effectively saying 'I didn't see the tackle coming'. That was hardly the defender's fault.

I presume the boy means that he would have 'ridden' it otherwise. Had that happened, he'd be OK and Dom would be credited with an excellent challenge.


mortonjag 2009-01-06 12:05:06
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Jan 6 2009, 11:45 AM) [snapback]560191[/snapback]
cuff, or sausage?

Yes! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-06 12:07:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 6 2009, 12:05 PM) [snapback]560199[/snapback]
Think of the legend status he will achieve if he keeps Hamitlon up and puts the midden down biggrin.gif

He will become a true TON icon-up there with the 'Millions' logo.
mortonjag 2009-01-06 12:12:10
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Jan 6 2009, 11:00 AM) [snapback]560176[/snapback]
I've no issue with people giving or not giving to help those who were made homeless; it's a matter of personal choice and what you can live with.

No doubt there was the usual Greenock mixture of decent, salt-of-the-earth type people and rogues in that block, with some falling between the two extremes.

However, what I CAN say is that I know people who were staying in Greenock for a few days around Hogmanay and had the misfortune to be staying in the Holiday Inn Express at Victoria Harbour, which is where some, maybe all, of those who lost their homes were decanted to. They said their whole stay was disrupted by (some of) those people, with shouting and swearing at all hours of the day and night to kids allowed to run riot, many people smoking in the rooms and corridors (fire alarm set off in the wee small hours due to that) and, on two occasions, feeling threatened by both men and women. The people who told me this are not snobbish by any stretch, and had sympathy for what had happened to the locals, but felt that many of them had absolutely no regard for anyone else who might be upset or angered by their behaviour.

Not a nice experience at all on their first trip to Greenock in years.

That's not very nice, but you've got to remember that those poor people had just been rendered homeless, presumably through no fault of their own, and probably couldn't think clearly.
mortonjag 2009-01-06 12:46:57
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jan 6 2009, 12:09 PM) [snapback]560204[/snapback]
He's pish anyway ph34r.gif

I heard we're signing Derek McInnes, Alex Williams, Simon Mensing, John Sutton, David Hagen, Jesus Christ, Bob Hope, Kenny Deuchar, Chicken Little, Colin McMenamin, The stand from Love Street, Martin Hardie.....

All rumours at this stage except for Jesus Christ who has promised to come back again.
mortonjag 2009-01-06 13:03:43 [attachment=4992:sage.JPG]
mortonjag 2009-01-06 13:30:44
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Jan 6 2009, 01:12 PM) [snapback]560234[/snapback]
Yeh but for that £100 excess, you are saving an 18 month wait for example for an MRI scan and cruciate operation. Its the same service & consultants as you say, you would get on the NHS, but you get it a hell of a lot quicker depending on the injury/illness and generally your surroundings & conditions while your in hospital are far better IMO. Surely it was this lady's responsibility to report her worsening condition to BUPA, especially 10 years down the line. Its in the terms of the agreement, that you have to update them on your conditions, if they change & it also includes every condition that has to be disclosed. Unfortunate, but her fault.

Correct-caveat emptor!
mortonjag 2009-01-06 13:38:04
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Jan 6 2009, 01:35 PM) [snapback]560240[/snapback]
In English please Baxter, you know i don't speak Spanish.

What's with the bunnet then?
mortonjag 2009-01-06 14:39:46 Does anybody find that the weather has a big effect on mood?

Yesterday was lovely and sunny and I felt pretty motivated but today I just can't get going at all. I know most people prefer sunshine, but I'm talking about the weather acting like a switch on your mood. huh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-06 15:37:36 [quote name='Ghost' date='Jan 6 2009, 03:12 PM' post='560258']
It's the first one on the list Bryan laugh.gif

Rt.Hon. Dr John Reid, MP ( 60)
Chairman

Dr Reid joined the Board as an independent non-executive director on 1st October 2007 and was formally elected by shareholders at the Annual General Meeting on 19 November 2007. At that time Dr Reid also assumed the position of Chairman, on the retirement of Brian Quinn.

Dr Reid holds a PShD in history from Stirling University. He has been a Member of Parliament since 1987. During his career as a politician, Dr Reid has held posts as a Government Minister, firstly in Defence and then Transport. Dr Reid went on to become a Cabinet member holding various posts as a Secretary of State, and culminating as Secretary of State for Home Affairs. He resigned from that post in June 2007 but retains his position as the Member of Parliament for Airdrie and Shotts.


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mortonjag 2009-01-06 15:42:48
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jan 6 2009, 02:43 PM) [snapback]560249[/snapback]
I worked with someone who had S.A.D. and she needed a lightbox.

I've always been a wee bit sceptical about those, though I know of one GP who has one on her consulting room desk (for her own use)!
mortonjag 2009-01-06 15:57:06
QUOTE(Deego @ Jan 6 2009, 03:22 PM) [snapback]560262[/snapback]
i fingered a munter on the xmas night oot

like this?
mortonjag 2009-01-06 16:24:22
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jan 6 2009, 04:19 PM) [snapback]560300[/snapback]
OK I admit I was part to blame for getting to the ground only 5 minutes before kick-off. However, to only have two turnstiles for adults whilst another three (possibly four) were used for other sections resulted in a sizeable number of people missing the kick-off (queuing for 10 minutes plus). Finally after various suggestions from the supporters a bit of initiative was used and the parent and child gate was used. Even with moderate crowds Cappielow somehow manages to struggle. blink.gif

That could be construed as criticism of the club.
mortonjag 2009-01-06 17:29:17
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 6 2009, 04:48 PM) [snapback]560313[/snapback]
Has always been the case. has frustrated the life out of me for years but don't ask the buxom heid steward anything as she will try and get the polis to throw you out. Although on the occasion she was pissed off with me the Polis reported her to her boss for the way she reacted to being asked to open more gates.

The club really need to sort out the turnstyle issues as a matter of urgency, if its not people struggling to get in on time its the takings being pocketed.

That too, could be construed as criticism of the club.
mortonjag 2009-01-06 17:37:46
QUOTE(binnie @ Jan 6 2009, 05:22 PM) [snapback]560324[/snapback]
What Has he Done Al Season thats Wrong.

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He's constantly a yard slow, can't cope with a winger, and his 'distribution' is totally random-can't think of the proportion of his 'clearances' which go to the opposition but it's WELL over 50%.

Now there may be nothing wrong with those things, but they are facts.

Alex Walker is stronger, and more direct.

In fairness to both, they are not full backs.
mortonjag 2009-01-06 17:44:28
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 6 2009, 04:59 PM) [snapback]560319[/snapback]
mortons Paul Kelly is brilliant

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I'll book him for the Christmas tree next year!
mortonjag 2009-01-06 17:55:36
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Jan 6 2009, 05:28 PM) [snapback]560327[/snapback]
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/content/pdf/tcs_cvn_55.pdf

Part 7 is relevant to what your saying but they should have notified the customer 1 month before. However, I think because you're getting exactly the same as before this wouldn't be considered breach as such.
Really?

What department do you work in?

I agree with WDE. The working atmosphere is awful and I've yet to speak to an advisor who actually enjoys working there. Actually me and a guy in my team had this conversation previously. You may actually be the first person I've spoken to who likes working there. Although in fairness, some people do pretend its a lot worse than it actually is.

Anybody I've ever met who works in one of those pass the buck joke shops managed by wee lassies with big tits and ineffectual male nobodies with large brown bugles, is only there for the money.
mortonjag 2009-01-06 19:46:05
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 6 2009, 06:08 PM) [snapback]560341[/snapback]
as a physio not a light

Ah-I get the massage.
mortonjag 2009-01-06 20:39:20
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 6 2009, 08:06 PM) [snapback]560374[/snapback]
Chrissiboi, are you referring to the Templeman "goal"?
Hardly their fault. I'm pretty pleased to see a "wee" team up there. New stadium, good young side, decent manager. They are our benchmark.

ENTIRELY their fault. They bullied yellow belly Thomson into reversing the correct decision, and the SFA covered up for the cheating and lying b*stard.

No surprise that their secretary Slimy Struthers is on the Referees committee eh?

That was an absolute disgrace and totally down to a shower of cheats. They will be relegated and hopefully go into free fall thereafter-to where they belong.

SCUM! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-06 20:43:07
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 6 2009, 08:09 PM) [snapback]560377[/snapback]
It was an absolute sodding joke on Saturday. I was there in plenty of time, and missed the start of the match!

Now I'm just a normal punter with no season ticket, you really miss it. sad.gif

Oh dear-why don't you write to Mr. Rae as he requested. No point in complaining here apparently! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-07 08:58:06
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Jan 6 2009, 10:40 PM) [snapback]560465[/snapback]
I think what makes me angry about this is the fact the programme does not seem to be in any way whatsoever...caring about them.....makes them look like 'muppets'....just highlighting their abnormal lives.....in an exadgerated way

One man's muppet is another's Adonis, Vader!

Live and let live, and try not to be so angry about things you cannot change-that's my advice, and it's based on experience.

Talking about muppets-that effin Shoogly enrages me. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-07 09:03:14
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 7 2009, 06:09 AM) [snapback]560523[/snapback]
Rangers are no longer the big spending super-power they once were at the start of the souness revolution, the days of having virtually the entire English defence, Woods, Butcher, Roberts etc in their team are well and truly over for ever.

There's no money around anywhere in Scottish football, most ''championship'' clubs, although smaller in stature than Rangers have more financial clout, it's a sign of the times.

I know what you mean about the small fee Rangers want for Boyd, but, they got him for only 500K from Killie anyway. I think they need to pay Killie a sell-on fee though.

What sort of way is Kris to spell Chris anyway ? Isn't that a bit gay ?


You can get a striking POUFFE in DFS for buttons.
mortonjag 2009-01-07 09:09:22
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 7 2009, 08:59 AM) [snapback]560538[/snapback]
Apparently the temperature here is whopping 4 degrees (although extremely foggy in Gourock right now, so feels slightly colder) and is to steadily rise to around 11 degrees by Sunday.

Get yourselves home lads, looks like were finally having one of those red Indian (sorry tricks rolleyes.gif ) summers I've been hearing about for a decade but never seem to quite happen. EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDRed or brown?
mortonjag 2009-01-07 09:23:36
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 7 2009, 09:07 AM) [snapback]560540[/snapback]
Can't recall Cuthbert making a save either. I can recall several crosses taken by Robinson as well as cutting out one very dangerous low cross ball early on.

I honestly CAN'T recall Oompah intercepting a single dangerous cross. I believe there were perhaps two useless balls into the box which he collected with ease.

We're NOT making chances for the strikers. When we do we will see the goals coming.
mortonjag 2009-01-07 09:29:43
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 7 2009, 09:11 AM) [snapback]560542[/snapback]
You mean there's more to this, other than him being a lazy b*****d in training? ohmy.gif

Still, Rangers will take any 'decent' bid for any of their players, given the current financial climate.

So nae chance for Cellic then? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-07 10:26:47
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Jan 7 2009, 09:56 AM) [snapback]560550[/snapback]
do bupla pumpersten count ?

was he not just a scout for clubs

Ritchie was transferred from Morton to Motherwell in 1983. He was player-manager for Albion Rovers in season 1984-85. He retired in 1985, aged 28. sad.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-07 11:14:04
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 7 2009, 11:07 AM) [snapback]560573[/snapback]
Yes, all the personal issue talk is a red herring. Rangers are in vast amounts of debt - this being a matter of public record - and will entertain any and all decent offers for literally anyone in the squad.

They're not going to win the league this season so there's not really any harm in selling Boyd now, assuming they have a summer replacement lined up... which they don't, of course, but they're not going to tell the fans that.


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But they will continue to try? huh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-07 11:27:17
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Jan 7 2009, 11:08 AM) [snapback]560574[/snapback]
Wake was doing well in the 1st half when he came on, but i thought he had an absolute, grade A, premium, 5 star crudshow in the 2nd half. Just my opinion mind!

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A buzzelcrud par excellence? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-07 11:38:44
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 7 2009, 11:30 AM) [snapback]560579[/snapback]
Now Mr Boyd would you like diet COKE or the full BLOWN stuff. rolleyes.gif

which makes you put your whole self in? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-07 13:43:49
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 7 2009, 01:06 PM) [snapback]560601[/snapback]
No they're not ya tit, it's just your opinion.

Yes they are Ratarse!

I object to you calling me a 'tit'. That's the sort of thing that gets folk into trouble with the Mods you know. Everybody knows mortonjag is a dove.
mortonjag 2009-01-07 13:49:25 What's Chisholm going to say about this next? Will he retract his slanderous comments and apologise?
mortonjag 2009-01-07 13:52:06
QUOTE(togib @ Jan 7 2009, 01:32 PM) [snapback]560613[/snapback]
was it just me or has no one else spotted, that in the replayed partick game on dec 30th, the original programme that was produced for the game, which was due to be played on sat 6th december has been used.

haven't got a problem with that but inside on page 3..davie irons column...he is thanking the fans who travelled to the last 2 away league games which were clyde and hamilton.Also he says that the form has been not too bad for the 4 games that he and derek collins have been at the club.

thought I was sold one of last seasons programmes but it was dated sat 6th dec 2008

JUST ANOTHER WEE MISTAKE blink.gif



That may be construed as criticism of the club.
mortonjag 2009-01-07 13:59:16
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jan 7 2009, 01:46 PM) [snapback]560624[/snapback]
LOL - Are you suggesting that there is a difference between his opinion and fact ? rolleyes.gif

I see [in the DR] Jamie Stevenson is back at Cappielow from Alloa.

Back to be sold or back to play I wonder?

He wants to play-FACT! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-07 14:28:09
QUOTE(Muz @ Jan 7 2009, 01:23 PM) [snapback]560608[/snapback]
Thought you deserved your own reply. What an insulting, generalised sweeping lot of rubbish. You have no idea about the place, I wouldnt expect you to, same as I wouldnt know anything about doctors or whatever it is that you did.

Condescending c***.

It's perfectly permissible to type chap-that's the word you were looking for I'd imagine. I know you'd never dream of being offensive and risking a warning! laugh.gif

My post was based on the fact that my partner has intricate knowledge and experience of the workings of call centres in general. If you'd care to read it again, it makes no specific reference to T Mobile, though it's obvious you are in the minority with your undoubtedly biased opinion of its virtues.

The fact is that call centre management tends not to be very good, and is overburdened with folk who have been 'promoted' for the wrong reasons.
mortonjag 2009-01-07 14:36:29
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jan 7 2009, 01:48 PM) [snapback]560626[/snapback]
Did anyone see The Sun today about Tommy Sheridan and how he is pals with Paul Ferris and Billy Davies? Apparently they used to rob people for money, and terrorise their housing scheme. Tomorrows Sun there will probably be a story from someone he robbed! He is a total t***!

Sheridan is a politician, and politicians are scum. He thinks he's above the law, yet he's only a jumped up ned with a modicum of intelligence and an innate ability to con those dafter than himself. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-07 14:45:52
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Jan 7 2009, 02:18 PM) [snapback]560646[/snapback]
Played for us in a closed doors game at Murray Park today, as it is the off-season in the MLS. Rangers won 1-0, Burke scored.

Could Deuchar sign for us till the end of the season then go back to America, just like Beckham has done with AC Milan? unsure.gif

http://www.rangers.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Ma...1511599,00.html

Presumably he wasn't playing for us for fun. What puzzles me is the wage situation if he did come to Cappielow. Who'd be paying and how much?
mortonjag 2009-01-07 14:49:17
QUOTE(togib @ Jan 7 2009, 02:06 PM) [snapback]560640[/snapback]
I will be able to take it up with davie irons personally,because in his column he also states that he is looking forward to meeting the fans next week for the first time and will be happy to talk openly about his plans for the club. laugh.gif

Really!

Where is this meeting? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-07 14:59:49
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 7 2009, 02:44 PM) [snapback]560661[/snapback]
Seeing as we're into sweeping generaisations, when did you murder the last of your estimated 300 victims Dr Mentaljag?

What connection has your offensive question with the statement that you're 'into sweeping generalisations'?

My comments about Sheridan are in line with perceived wisdom among informed Glaswegians.
mortonjag 2009-01-07 15:02:47
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 7 2009, 03:00 PM) [snapback]560674[/snapback]
It depends what you mean by 'try'. If you mean, will they continue to attempt to win matches... yeah, of course.

But will they turn down healthy bids in the expectation that they can recover top spot? No, they won't.

So not all is lost yet!
mortonjag 2009-01-07 15:07:32
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 7 2009, 02:58 PM) [snapback]560671[/snapback]
Aye, and before Mentaljag says it, if we are looking at Deuchar then we need good service from the wings. It's time to get rid of the mediocrity.

If that piece of plagiarism refers to mortonjag, he has already 'said it'-many, many times before. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-07 15:11:38
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jan 7 2009, 03:00 PM) [snapback]560675[/snapback]
No doubt someone will.

Athiest campaign

God knows.
mortonjag 2009-01-07 15:17:28
QUOTE(Muz @ Jan 7 2009, 03:10 PM) [snapback]560683[/snapback]
I couldnt give a toss whether you are an astronaut or whatever Dowza. The fact is that it's common sense not to have people going up and down a staircase which is only 4-5 wide. I dont think i've ever heard anyone being discliplined either, but I guess that "long term employee" must have been right eh? Maybe he's one of the moaners who do f*** all as well? Or the daft c*** that fell down them? Whaty about the other stairs- you're allowed to go up and down them- are you not?

Regarding the training- As I wasnt there I cant comment but I find that ridiculous. Why didnt you challenge him on it? You didnt mention it to me when I spoke to you either, so it must have deeply affected you eh?
f***- the canteen staff now as well. Who's next as backup? The cleaners? As I said if you dont like a place then leave.

Same with all works!

PS MJ you are a c***.

I am not the defender of T-Mobile, far from it,


I'm glad you're agreeing with the others then. I could have sworn you were defending your German paymasters!

....and as I said, just type 'chap'. You don't need the wee stars. If in doubt check with the Mods.
mortonjag 2009-01-07 15:22:00
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 7 2009, 03:08 PM) [snapback]560681[/snapback]
There'd be the connection.


What subjects are you studying at college?
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jan 7 2009, 03:11 PM) [snapback]560685[/snapback]
that was funny!, funnier than your bebo comment anyway!

Dr Mentaljag, Sheridan was quite well respected among his flock.
The problem was that my lovely party took seats off smaller parties to gain 20 seats and a majority. Despite "losing" the elction, Labour actually only lost 4 seats.

He also gave away half his wage (although it could have been to the party)

Don't I know it. Hitler was good as shouting loudly and conning folk too! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-07 15:25:36
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 7 2009, 03:21 PM) [snapback]560691[/snapback]
It seems the Methodists welcome the debate (according to the story anyway). I suspect that a good few other theists (you know, those poor souls that haven't reached your level of intellectual development) would be up for the challenge as well, some on this board perhaps. Watch this space indeed. biggrin.gif

Shoogly's a Methodist-is he out of line with the rest of his people?
mortonjag 2009-01-07 15:28:31
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jan 7 2009, 03:23 PM) [snapback]560694[/snapback]
VT is studying: politics, history, psycology and sociology (although he hates the lecturer

....and politicians are........ laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-07 15:33:13
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 7 2009, 02:58 PM) [snapback]560672[/snapback]
you'd bottle going to it! ph34r.gif

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I probably would. Mr Irons comes a close second to the Shooglemeister in the listen but not hear stakes!
mortonjag 2009-01-07 15:36:26
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jan 7 2009, 03:07 PM) [snapback]560680[/snapback]
None of your business. tongue.gif

Oh yes it is!
mortonjag 2009-01-07 15:43:19
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 7 2009, 03:26 PM) [snapback]560698[/snapback]
Shipman was rather efficient also. dry.gif
Oh, and I'm NOT taking the college bait. blush.gif

Shipman got caught!

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 7 2009, 03:37 PM) [snapback]560708[/snapback]
Has he shagged Ulrika yet? Or Tina maybe?

...both I'd imagine, though not necessarily simultaneously.
mortonjag 2009-01-07 15:46:31
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 7 2009, 03:43 PM) [snapback]560717[/snapback]
I'm sure you've said before that Shoogly was God. No point in debating with oneself whether oneself exists or not, is there? Unless you're mad of course. biggrin.gif

Shoogly IS 'God'!
mortonjag 2009-01-07 15:51:20
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 7 2009, 03:45 PM) [snapback]560718[/snapback]
Celtic have it wrapped up, though.

in a hokey pokey?
mortonjag 2009-01-07 15:53:24
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 7 2009, 03:47 PM) [snapback]560721[/snapback]
So did Hitler.
I guess you'd better watch out for the fuzz.

I have the fuzz in the palm of my hand.
mortonjag 2009-01-07 16:00:12
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 7 2009, 03:41 PM) [snapback]560712[/snapback]
I was just going to say the same thing. You don't need pace up front if your solitary game plan is to scud the ball at the two strikers heads, regardless of what size they are. If your going to do that endlessly, then you might as well just play two big guys and hope for the best.

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mortonjag 2009-01-07 16:07:21
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 7 2009, 04:01 PM) [snapback]560739[/snapback]
Tommy 'Two Dicks' ? laugh.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

That sounds SO right!
mortonjag 2009-01-07 16:29:25
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 7 2009, 04:23 PM) [snapback]560758[/snapback]
So will McCaig's folly. blush.gif

They've named the 'new' stand then?
mortonjag 2009-01-07 19:34:55
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jan 7 2009, 05:24 PM) [snapback]560799[/snapback]
Oh no it isn't. Only shareholders have a legitimate interest in this which rules you out. rolleyes.gif

Believe it or not Anus, your trite little comment epitomises what's wrong at Cappielow. It's an echo of the sentiments regularly churned out by numbers Trusty, before he opted to 'sup wi' the de'il'.

The suggestion that a humble fan has no right to be interested in how the club is being run financially is almost as ridiculous as the implication that a nominal shareholder is any more empowered to influence that.
mortonjag 2009-01-07 19:43:41
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 7 2009, 06:28 PM) [snapback]560835[/snapback]
Liek you'd know...you never ask wink.gif

Is that the new Taffy manager who's taking over according to Anus?
mortonjag 2009-01-07 19:50:41
QUOTE(Deego @ Jan 7 2009, 05:26 PM) [snapback]560801[/snapback]
Stop teasing me, get right down! blush.gif

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QUOTE(xj2006 @ Jan 7 2009, 07:38 PM) [snapback]560864[/snapback]
airbrush tastic

she does not do it for me at all in real life

Everything about that bloody show is plastic from Diphallus's personality through the presenter's smile to those knockers.

It's a good laugh mind! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-07 20:28:45
QUOTE(Muz @ Jan 7 2009, 07:52 PM) [snapback]560873[/snapback]
Lucy Pinder has natural breasts.

Hidden under a mass of silicone!

QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 7 2009, 07:54 PM) [snapback]560875[/snapback]
Indeed, all natural. Discovered on Brighton Beach apparently.

Not seen much of BB, but she's been on other shows and seems and intelligent and nice lass.

With plastic tits! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-07 20:38:19
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 7 2009, 08:27 PM) [snapback]560908[/snapback]
Isn't referring to God as 'the big man' blasphemous?

Why-is he vertically challenged? blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-07 20:42:46
QUOTE(Muz @ Jan 7 2009, 04:48 PM) [snapback]560771[/snapback]
I havent had any experience of being treated like a number- if someone is being mistreated, then it's up to them to do something about it. People who sit there and take it are their own worst enemies, and they plant the seed for the person to do the same to someone else.

I have a mortgage to pay. I have commitments. If I didnt like it that much I would leave.

In my experience if you want something enough, you'll do what you have to get it. Same with jobs.

Same with anything, fitness, and the same advice I gave you a week or so ago.



QUOTE(Muz @ Jan 7 2009, 07:07 PM) [snapback]560843[/snapback]
You come across with complete bulls*** pal. I am not a manager, I just said what I think. I didnt insult you, which you have resorted to, and to be honest looking at what I had posted, I cant see any of it as "management speak" whatever the f*** that is?

You on the other hand come across really well. Well done!


Are you an ambitious person? wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-07 20:45:13
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 7 2009, 08:31 PM) [snapback]560913[/snapback]
MJ, seriously, they aren't.

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You are quite a boastful chappie at times!
mortonjag 2009-01-07 20:53:58 It's impossible to prove or disprove 'God'.

Those who quote others ad nauseam demonstrate insecurity in their ability to think for themselves.
mortonjag 2009-01-07 21:01:25
QUOTE(Muz @ Jan 7 2009, 08:49 PM) [snapback]560931[/snapback]
What does that have to do with it?

And Yes, I am. After a fairly s*** few years personally, I am now fully focused on what I want to do. That ok with you?

I could have said mind your own, but I know you dont do that as you feel the need to post on every subject going.

You seem very sensitive and defensive. I merely asked.

If you have set your mind on a goal you are right to go for it. That's what I did, and achieved unimagined success as a result.

Power to your elbow young man. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-07 21:04:27 Aye right, and each tit has the kite mark stamped under the nipple! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-07 21:17:55
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 7 2009, 08:45 PM) [snapback]560927[/snapback]
If you harked on at me telling me how to do my job when you clearly know eff all about it, I'd turn a deaf ear too.

Really Ratarse-in that respect I congratulate you on normality.

The point is my dear chap, that Irons has virtually no managerial experience. I have not criticised his coaching, but as someone who has employed and managed staff for many years, I am perfectly entitled to comment on his apparent lack of skill.

Furthermore his abysmal lack of tactical nous has been mentioned by many....

which leads me to suggest that your post is simply another unwarranted Jag attack!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif



mortonjag 2009-01-07 21:25:20
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 7 2009, 08:10 PM) [snapback]560884[/snapback]
you can ask at the soon to be announced open trust meeting biggrin.gif

Good!

QUOTE(piehutt @ Jan 7 2009, 09:03 PM) [snapback]560944[/snapback]
Sorry, but if we sign a striker we have to play Weatherson and AN Other.

The big man is in amazing form at the moment. Grady can barely play a full match for us, and while he's a good influence he's not going to get more than a handful of goals during the rest of the season.

Notice the Good Doctor has played 29 games for Real Salt Lake and only scored 3 goals. . . Wonder if he's open to a move back to Scottish Fitba and perhaps to continue his medical career.

Deuchar is a materialist. Why would he want to pursue a medical career in Britain?
mortonjag 2009-01-07 21:35:24
QUOTE(Muz @ Jan 7 2009, 09:18 PM) [snapback]560964[/snapback]
You asked cos you were trying to be a smart ass as per usual. wink.gif

Highlighting words and putting them together. I am merely stating that I dont have to be a manager to be ambitious. I was a manager before, didnt like it.

I do like my current job-My work is good, the money's good, my colleagues are fine, and it's close to home. I worked hard to get my position and T-Mobile isn't such a bad place to work.

But- I am ambitious and focused on what I want to do and be in life, and I will get it. Of that I am positive.

Others would do well to have the same attitude in life as you have stated, and maybe apply themselves instead of moaning about trivial matters. rolleyes.gif

I thank you. cool.gif

edited cos spelling!


I asked because I was curious to know why your opinion seemed to differ so much from the others. In addition to commending you for 'going for it', I'd recommend that you try to be more open minded and receptive of others' opinions. That will accelerate your progress.
mortonjag 2009-01-07 21:48:37
QUOTE(Muz @ Jan 7 2009, 09:25 PM) [snapback]560975[/snapback]
They arent fake. Just tremendous. Cant you tell fake from real? I hate fake breasts!!

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDSorry to disappoint you, though I'd add in consolation that fake breasts feel very pleasant AND 'natural'-quite unlike the irregularly lumpy and fibroadenotic globes which are the norm in idiopathic mammary hypertrophy.
mortonjag 2009-01-08 07:17:09
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jan 7 2009, 09:29 PM) [snapback]560987[/snapback]
Oh, hark at her! What an egotistical clown. laugh.gif laugh.gif

Not egotistical, Anus, and most certainly not a clown, as all who know the true Jag will aver--which leaves you looking rather ill informed. That of course is nothing new.

Just another silly jag attack! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-08 07:23:51 I've heard that he managed to con DI into giving him a 'trial' after he heard Boyd was leaving Ibrox! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-08 07:27:59 That'll be Jimbo off to the bears then! laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-08 07:34:22
QUOTE(se65an @ Dec 31 2008, 06:36 PM) [snapback]557898[/snapback]
Whilst adding a new video to Youtube I came across this old one, and yet again it had me in fits of laugher.
Dirty b*****ds granted, but phone call will always top the list of best ever messages left on my answering machine

Link to Poo

Hmm-this thread about SH*T has been deemed suitable for 'general morton chat'-for a full week.

I'm sure the Mods have made the right decision. biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-08 07:43:16
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 7 2009, 08:55 PM) [snapback]560937[/snapback]
Phew, good thing nobody's trying to prove or disprove god, otherwise we'd really be in trouble!

edit: green crazed solipsists incapable of reading threads properly dream furiously.

Probably so!

At first I thought that was another cryptic clue for the Sunday Herald crossword, then I descarted the idea.
mortonjag 2009-01-08 09:54:36
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 7 2009, 09:56 PM) [snapback]561024[/snapback]
MJ. She famously is natural. Your powers have failed you here smile.gif

The TITanic was famously unsinkable! dry.gif

QUOTE(Muz @ Jan 7 2009, 09:59 PM) [snapback]561025[/snapback]
Why do you ALWAYS have to be such a c***?

You might have, but only on a professional basis as I cant believe many women would go near you. And anyway, old smelly bints or your maw dont count.

Her breasts are famously real as Donga says.

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Hate to bang on dear but my partner is several years younger than you! laugh.gif

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 7 2009, 10:59 PM) [snapback]561051[/snapback]
Got to disagree Col. I've known him since his militant days and always thought he was a charlatan, a guy on the make, albeit like so many others on the left of the labour party at the time. Now he's been found out, his murky past and 'associations' exposed. SSP and Solidarity do the Scottish Working Class no favours at all. Instead of defending the rights of decent ordinary working people they spend their time making excuses for criminals, slope abouts and terrorists. As McArthur says, he's an embarrassment.

A piece of scum who's a past master of conning the mentally vulnerable.

QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Jan 7 2009, 11:10 PM) [snapback]561064[/snapback]
*I read this in the paper btw* He said last night on the programme that he can't stand people that rob from peoples houses - hardly making excuses for them is he?

I like Tommy, nice enough guy and a bloody good teacher...he was the only reason I passed Sociology last year!

Still speak to him whenever I bump into him in the uni gym and he's always interested in how uni work and other stuff's going. IMO a real nice, genuine guy.

And MJ, they are real...get over yerself son!

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mortonjag 2009-01-08 10:09:44
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 8 2009, 09:32 AM) [snapback]561203[/snapback]
Starting to worry about you now, most of your posts are oozing in paranoia these days. That's just smithston's way of saying he loves you. wink.gif

Don't be daft-I like Anus, and think he can take it as well as chuck it out. The problem is, Naitch, that I've been told I'M not allowed to 'take the piss' or I'll be banned. It's got me all confused. Apparently lots of folk clype about me behind my back. It's very difficult when you don't know who those weans are! thumbdown.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-08 10:15:42
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 8 2009, 09:58 AM) [snapback]561211[/snapback]
Tom Parratt has been released by QoS. Worth a look? I thought he looked a decent player but Chisholm (and a lot of Queens fans) must think otherwise. Airdrie interested apparently.

parratt

We DO need a right back!
mortonjag 2009-01-08 10:18:35 Many happy returns!

I always remember yours, Alibi, as you are exactly one year younger than my 'ex'-which makes me feel rather old! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-08 11:08:18
QUOTE(scullerypress @ Jan 8 2009, 10:17 AM) [snapback]561217[/snapback]
Here's a radical idea, turn up in plenty of time, say 2:30 and get in easily.
It's worked for me for years, never had a problem at the turnstyles.
Some folk are naw happy unless they're moaning.

The complaints about the stewarding seem legitimate enough!

Are you not getting them mixed up with those of 'the negativity boys, who are never happier than when they're having a good old moan'? biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-08 11:12:17
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Jan 8 2009, 11:06 AM) [snapback]561236[/snapback]
If we sign a right back, Macgregor could move back over to the left back poisition which is where he played before he got injured.

That's true. The only problem is that both Walker and Smith are better than him in that position.
mortonjag 2009-01-08 11:18:12
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 8 2009, 10:59 AM) [snapback]561232[/snapback]
Dear God ( if he exists) this is becoming awfy civilised.
Answers, not proof.
The effects of a good Catholic education, I was taught self expression as a child. ohmy.gif

That comes quite naturally to most pubertal boys!
mortonjag 2009-01-08 11:27:30 They have broken the law-it's perfectly clear they had no statutory right of entry.Guilty of breaking and entering, and also of unlawful damage to third party property. Report it to the Police if they don't back down.
mortonjag 2009-01-08 11:38:02
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 8 2009, 11:19 AM) [snapback]561242[/snapback]
Weather update.... it's was much milder this morning, at -4C it was a full 10C 'warmer' than it had been the in previous two mornings.

6C here-dry and sunny-birds singing, and I've just done a big jobby.
mortonjag 2009-01-08 11:42:42
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Jan 8 2009, 11:35 AM) [snapback]561246[/snapback]
Parratt is a good full-back who missed quite a bit of last season through injury. I was surprised when Hamilton let him go.

We don't have any natural full-backs, Walker is a mid-fielder and Macgregor and Smith are both central defenders, although I think that Smith in particular has done particularly well.

I'd definitely sign Parratt and at only 22 years old he could come on a bit yet.

Particularly when he's not had the dunce's cap on! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-08 12:16:57
QUOTE(Malt @ Jan 8 2009, 11:46 AM) [snapback]561252[/snapback]
McGregor is a nice guy and a good servant to Greenock Morton but I would allow him to talk to other clubs as he is not a natural full back, constantly injured and I don't think we should keep just out of loyalty.

Guy released from Queens would be a good addittion but I would like to see Alex Walker given the right back position and the chance to make it his own. The guy has never had the chance to make a position as his own as he has played Midfield, left back, right back and centre half.

....and therein lies the problem. Davie comes across as a thoroughly decent young man with a great work ethic and undeniable loyalty to the club. He's been very unlucky with injuries but has now reached an age where his full potential should be obvious, and sadly he's not quite up to 1st division standard.

He's technically a better footballer than Smith, and he heads a ball better than Walker, but he lacks pace, and copes poorly under pressure resulting in gaffes and pretty awful distribution. Play him down a division and he looks OK and at 3rd division level where he has the time, he can look quite cultured.

Anyway-my point-we DO need a right back-sure Alex Walker's had a raw deal, but I'd prefer him to get a chance in midfield than see him rot away as a stand in. I believe young Smith has that wee bit extra-once the rough edges are smoothed he'll make a good first division defender.
mortonjag 2009-01-08 12:26:07
QUOTE(scullerypress @ Jan 8 2009, 11:49 AM) [snapback]561253[/snapback]
The stewarding, Yes.
Not getting in the ground on time. No



I guess it's a case of what can generally be construed as reasonable. Arriving at a stadium which can accommodate well over ten thousand on a day when-say-2000 are expected, one surely would not imagine significant delay in gaining entry!

At Cappielow of course, the customer is not always correct.
mortonjag 2009-01-08 12:35:25
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 8 2009, 12:23 PM) [snapback]561263[/snapback]
Is your partner a man or a lady ?

unsure.gif


The partner to whom I referred in this thread is female. Over the years I've had partners of both sexes.
mortonjag 2009-01-08 13:07:42 Deuchar continued to work part time as a doctor when here, and I'd guess that's the reason for him having to be back by the start of February.
mortonjag 2009-01-08 13:14:02
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 8 2009, 01:09 PM) [snapback]561273[/snapback]
Each to their own I suppose.

Indeed-I wish more were as open minded as you appear to be!
mortonjag 2009-01-08 14:03:04
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 8 2009, 01:23 PM) [snapback]561280[/snapback]
It's not breaking and entering if they had the landlord's permission to break down the door. If the building is factored - contact the factors as the building is in an unsecure state and they may repair it and bill the landlord directly themselves. Also, you let them in?



It's clearly not a s simple as that. What was agreed legally when the security system was installed and why did the offending landlord not join the deal?

It appears that he's instructed two 'heavies' to kick in a secure entry system which presumably he knew pre-existed and had not objected to.

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mortonjag 2009-01-08 14:31:52
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Jan 8 2009, 02:16 PM) [snapback]561303[/snapback]
At the Thistle game last Tuesday night, there was no water at all! dry.gif

Edit cos I'm an idiot, I thought you meant in the toilets, not the pie stall for tea/coffee/bovril. blush.gif ph34r.gif

There is a difference? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-08 14:45:49
QUOTE(Thrax @ Jan 8 2009, 01:24 PM) [snapback]561281[/snapback]
A Paisley guy and a Paisley girl are making out in his car when the girl says, "Put your finger inside of me!"
He is only too willing to oblige.
"Put another finger inside of me!"
So he does.
"Put your whole hand inside of me!" she says, moaning in pleasure.
"Now put both hands inside of me!" she screams.
"Now clap!" she gasps.
"I can't clap!" replied the guy.
"Tight, aren't I?" she smiles.

I take it he had huge mitts.
mortonjag 2009-01-08 14:50:17
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Jan 8 2009, 02:34 PM) [snapback]561308[/snapback]
Might be wrong, but are you a Morton youth player per chance, trying to drum up a bit of interest!? Im guessing your a quick winger who wears no. 7. ph34r.gif

Speedy7
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mortonjag 2009-01-08 14:54:37 Excellent authorised Saab repairs and servicing at huge reductions on main dealers' prices. Personally supervised by the owner.

Just in case anybody's interested as Western Saab are virtually a cartel in Scotland.
mortonjag 2009-01-08 16:33:23
QUOTE(Thrax @ Jan 8 2009, 02:52 PM) [snapback]561312[/snapback]
you tell me?

Well the story goes on that she said-'Are you sure you can't clap them?' and not getting an immediate answer came out with: 'What's with the big pause'? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-08 18:54:46
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Jan 8 2009, 04:30 PM) [snapback]561337[/snapback]
I wasn't having a dig or anything mate, just read your post, saw your username and put 2&2 together and clearly got 5! Ms Angela "Mortonjag" Lansbury soon pointed out the flaw in my theory!

And for what its worth, i think your idea is a very good one. Defo something to think about.

Speedy has posted several times before on youth issues. Not so much detective work as simply being 'in the know'! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-08 19:10:29 Just looked at that for the first time. For those who want Jenkins dropped and can't see past Jimbo watch the thirty seconds or so from 6.25 to see how to squander a golden opportunity followed quickly by how to be denied a cracking goal by good defending.
mortonjag 2009-01-08 19:13:50 GG becomes Parrott's Pancreas. blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-08 19:16:45
QUOTE(togib @ Jan 8 2009, 05:16 PM) [snapback]561357[/snapback]
that could be construed as giving a wee plug happy.gif

Correct! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-08 19:22:41
QUOTE(tolmie perms r bak @ Jan 8 2009, 05:03 PM) [snapback]561349[/snapback]
i hate traffic wardens mad.gif mad.gif , i was in town today about 2.50pm i parked on west blackhall st walked in to town for a few bits and bobs i came bak about 3.30pm and there it was a bloody parking ticket . £30 fine a joke happy new year to me,they must of been watching me,misses and the wein leave the car
they walk about the town as if they are wyatt earp (sherriff) and smiling at everyone smug bastewerds ,
i would love too smash there faces in i hate them more than the police,council tax and even st mirren.
i think there on comission, they are a bunch of complete a@@@@@@@s
smartass.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

what is your opinions ?

I am of the opinion that you are a very honest person.
mortonjag 2009-01-08 19:38:40
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 8 2009, 03:13 PM) [snapback]561323[/snapback]
You like to wake up every morning feeling a new woman ? (apologies to Ms West)



QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 8 2009, 07:15 PM) [snapback]561398[/snapback]
There are some fearsomely intelligent believers out there, I have repeatedly acknowledged this.

Most monotheists in the west are credulous or naive. I make no apology for this statement. If you'd like me to argue it I certainly will.

Intolerant? I respect and in fact defend vehemently the right for all to believe that they wish.

Arrogant? Sure, if you genuinely think this is more arrogant than, say, adherence to anthropocentric monotheism and not only thinking but knowing that you have a hotline to a celestial being then you are entitled to use this definition.

Nach0, you are beginning to scare the sh*t out of me. My hitherto peerless position of most arrogant, self opinionated, and verbose fud of all time is clearly in jeopardy. sad.gif

mortonjag 2009-01-08 19:50:03
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 8 2009, 07:21 PM) [snapback]561402[/snapback]
I had asked about the possibility of sponsoring youth players and indeed having individual sponsorship for each team . I believe the Trust did ask and the club were giving it consideration.

It seems that every time somebody suggests anything positive to the club, the club refuses to provide an answer.

This is usually described as 'giving it consideration'. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-08 20:10:52
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 8 2009, 07:47 PM) [snapback]561406[/snapback]
Sorry to infringe on the self-aggrandisement.

That's very kind of you, but it's not copyrighted. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-08 20:24:13
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 8 2009, 07:47 PM) [snapback]561407[/snapback]
Yes, we have been over this before. I made it very clear then that I did not believe that credulity, in the context of religious faith, implied stupidity or naivity. So I'm surprised to see you bring it up again and add an expression like 'intellectually retarded', which I for one have never used nor do I recall anyone else using it, to add to the distortion.

Unusually for this place up till now this has been a civil and IMO interesting discussion. Please don't spoil that rare moment of mutual civility by distorting and deliberately misrepresenting fellow members post in an attempt at mischief making.

If I may be entitled to opine on matters apparently beyond my intellectual compass, some of the contributors to this thread are well and truly 'up their ain erses'.

I am for once deadly serious. David Edwards has attempted to bring some good old fashioned common sense into play by poking gentle fun-that is all.

What started off as a relatively light hearted debate has descended into an exclusively self congratulatory melange of quasi intellectual mince.

That is my genuine and considered opinion.

I'd like to add that I always welcome original thought.

mortonjag 2009-01-08 20:29:50
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jan 8 2009, 08:15 PM) [snapback]561414[/snapback]
[/b]
That could be construed as criticism of the club ohmy.gif

laugh.gif

It could equally be claimed that it is nothing of the kind!
mortonjag 2009-01-08 20:33:33
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 8 2009, 08:28 PM) [snapback]561420[/snapback]
Who said irony was dead? laugh.gif


Hmm!
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 8 2009, 08:30 PM) [snapback]561422[/snapback]
lol, you can't read

Hmm again!


Titter ye not children.

Let's play a new game now. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-08 20:37:39
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 8 2009, 08:34 PM) [snapback]561425[/snapback]
"WHOOOSH!" smile.gif

laugh.gif

Perfume IS inflammable, as is fart! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-08 21:05:41
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 8 2009, 08:54 PM) [snapback]561427[/snapback]
Am I missing something here ? I've never had a blow-up doll (honest), but, isn't the whole point of having one to have sex with her ?

I don't understand the shop-keepers concerns, he's selling dolls which are being used for the correct purpose. It's not as if a real woman is being raped.

smile.gif

It IS thieving though.
mortonjag 2009-01-08 21:10:30 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

At last the voice of common sense:

But Stephen Green, national director of Christian Voice, said: "There is plenty of evidence for God, from people's personal experience, to the complexity, interdependence, beauty and design of the natural world.

"But there is scant evidence on the other side, so I think the advertisers are really going to struggle to show their claim is not an exaggeration or inaccurate, as the ASA code puts it."
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mortonjag 2009-01-08 21:14:21
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 8 2009, 09:11 PM) [snapback]561434[/snapback]
fair enough.

When reading that article there is a small photograph of the dolls. It says beneath it ''click to enlarge'', come on folks , be honest here, did you feel the need to look at the full sized photo ? I looked by the way, but I dont know why.

I completely missed that.

Back in a sec! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-08 21:28:25
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 8 2009, 09:17 PM) [snapback]561436[/snapback]
The thing is, when you look at the blown up version of the photo (no pun intended), it only shows some dolls heads in a showroom in Tokyo; no blow-up Australian dolls.

What a lovely town Cairns is by the way, I learned to Scuba dive on the great barrier reef with the Cairns Dive Centre.

It's a small world-my old pal in Sydney (not Newt) is just off the 'phone. Some Scots guy has just been treated in the local A & E for a potentially life threatening allergic reaction to rubber.

What was apparently so scary is that the only complaint he'd ever had previously was hayfever. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-08 21:54:06
QUOTE(togib @ Jan 8 2009, 09:50 PM) [snapback]561445[/snapback]
bet sydney is happy that your pal is in him mj happy.gif

He is indeed, after his previous partner-a member of the magic circle-disappeared with a pouf!
mortonjag 2009-01-09 08:57:45
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Jan 8 2009, 10:50 PM) [snapback]561473[/snapback]
shut up

please

No
mortonjag 2009-01-09 09:04:48 In the Hal Stewart days the Cappielow bugler was famous-and it wasn't anything like the mindless beating of drums mentioned earlier. He timed his salvos perfectly-AND he could play the bugle. Sometimes his resounding arpeggios were complimented by a passing steam train whistle being blown at full blast behind the stand.

The real thing of course was that the fans were already being entertained by exciting ATTACKING football. The bugler was the icing on the cake.

Happy days as any of our older fans will nostalgically recall.
mortonjag 2009-01-09 09:11:47
QUOTE(Deego @ Jan 8 2009, 10:59 PM) [snapback]561477[/snapback]
You're off your nut.

You're lucky I love you unconditionally. blush.gif

wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif

But you WOULD agree that Smiffy's a better right winger than superkev!
mortonjag 2009-01-09 09:21:45
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jan 8 2009, 11:48 PM) [snapback]561504[/snapback]
I already have at the top of the thread, James. happy.gif

Here you go again, though. Feel free to send them abusive mails. blush.gif

Bawbags

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mortonjag 2009-01-09 09:29:26
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Jan 9 2009, 09:01 AM) [snapback]561549[/snapback]
Morrissey is honking

We'll soon be signing him then. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-09 10:28:35
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 9 2009, 08:58 AM) [snapback]561547[/snapback]
The Real Radio guy was appalling and cringeworthy with his attempts to get a Mexican wave going in the Cowshed. The bugle however was not a false and staged form of entertainment.

For those who are too young to remember, the bugler first appeared (I think) in 1963 when we had crowds around the 10,000 or 12,000 mark every week if my memory serves me correctly. Certainly crowds far larger than most SPL teams get nowadays. I have never heard the name of the bugler revealed, but during the game he used to sound what I think may be known as Reveille, or it might be the bugling way of saying "Charge!". Anyway it was extremely effective in getting the crowd and the players going. I think it would be an excellent thing to resurrect although I'm not sure how well it would work amongst the current small crowds.

Do not make the mistake of comparing a bugler with the sort of artificial "entertainment" that we have occasionally seen in recent years. The bugler was a product of the crowd, not some marketing manager's idea of how to sell a "product".

Correct!

When we played Clyde (who were then chasing us) at Cappielow in an ordinary Saturday afternoon match in the old Second Division, we topped 12,000. That was a wee bit unusual, but substantial crowds in the high four figures were the norm, and of course we exceeded 20,000 in an evening cup tie with Motherwell.
mortonjag 2009-01-09 10:33:44
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 9 2009, 10:04 AM) [snapback]561560[/snapback]
I have no idea how to edit this three minute video down sad.gif

It'll be a shame if we can't keep it on here for posterity.

I could hardly believe the spontaneity of the WHOLE crowd-I've no idea where the chant started, but by the time it got to 'three' the whole stand was 'givin' it laldy' too! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-09 10:36:26
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 9 2009, 10:14 AM) [snapback]561563[/snapback]
Don't give the stewards any ideas...

"OK sir, what have you eaten in the last 48 hours?"

...followed rapidly by...

'Right Sir, I'm afraid you're going to have to remove your trousers....' dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-09 11:30:42
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 9 2009, 10:20 AM) [snapback]561565[/snapback]
You lot still at it?

You'd try the patience of a saint. Or a prophet. Even a particularly tolerant deity. If you believe in that of course.

Indeed they are!


WHOLLY SH*T ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-09 11:40:01 herald sport
mortonjag 2009-01-09 12:28:18
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 9 2009, 11:43 AM) [snapback]561594[/snapback]
But auld shoogly loves life is life ohmy.gif

Even though the rest of us f***ing detest it. mad.gif



I LIKE IT
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in karaoke!
mortonjag 2009-01-09 12:36:45
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jan 9 2009, 12:02 PM) [snapback]561602[/snapback]
I have started boycotting all Israeli imports and would urge everyone else to do so.

I hope everybody has taken due notice of your intention.
mortonjag 2009-01-09 12:42:38
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 9 2009, 12:02 PM) [snapback]561601[/snapback]
"Pay and Opportunities
Pay rates for traffic wardens vary.

The pay rates given below are approximate.

Traffic wardens earn in the range of £14,000 - £17,500 a year. Earnings may be increase by a shift allowance or by bonuses for the number of parking tickets issued"

rolleyes.gif

I too have a bus stop outside my house which I use daily, but one of my ignorant b*****d neighbours used to park at it, half on the road and block the bus preventing me from getting to work on time. I am pleased to say after several 'tickets' the penny dropped. Same goes for the ignorant b*****d down my street who one day parked his car full on the pavement as my wife was walking up with the pram, she asked him to move and he refused. Luckily for him my wife phoned the polis who promptly arrived and told him to move. I came home from work as the polis where moving him and had a right good chuckle when the polis went away and he returned to the pavement only for the polis to come back round the corner 5 minutes later and get he wee black book out. biggrin.gif



The wardens are only doing their jobs after all. If they're polite and reasonable I fail to see why folk should feel aggrieved for getting caught breaking the law-often in circumstances where their illicit behaviour could cause an accident.

I've only ever fallen out with one traffic warden!

Everybody in Dunoon knows BARBAROSSA, and I assure you he can be one arrogant c*nt.

Anyway-he was wrong and I won!!! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-09 13:04:46 In the summer when the weather's a bit better, it's easier to find things to do, but not having a game tomorrow leaves a big hole in the weekend for me.

I suppose I could take in another cup tie, but it just isn't the same.


Dundee-eight days away and counting! sad.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-09 13:10:07
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 9 2009, 01:06 PM) [snapback]561617[/snapback]
I should hope so, on the 8th of January 1970 my mother was conveyed by Ambulance from our home at number 7 Duiletter, Glendarauel to Dunnon & District General Hospital where I popped into this world. biggrin.gif

laugh.gif

I presume the red-bearded tyrant who terrorises the streets of Dunoon is not one of your relatives! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-09 13:35:58
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 9 2009, 01:22 PM) [snapback]561630[/snapback]
Here's hopun.

The monkey thinks 'e might blockade bananas!
mortonjag 2009-01-09 13:39:46
QUOTE(smitz @ Jan 9 2009, 01:26 PM) [snapback]561632[/snapback]
Dont even get me started on traffic wardens!

2 Smug cows in Paisley days before Christmas got me when i was at the other end of the road trying to get a ticket!!!

Appealed it though and am getting my cash back! but thats not the point, point is they are hunters out on the prowl for mugs like us who only want to nip into town to go about their business!

Why pay Road Tax? What the f***s the point? To have our roads fixed (badly i might add) only for the roads to crumble again in a year or so to need re-done!

AAAAAAAAAARGGGGHHHH! Wheres my bat!

Were they fresian?
mortonjag 2009-01-09 14:31:50
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 9 2009, 02:19 PM) [snapback]561648[/snapback]
Think that is the same the same guy who volunteers to work on a saturday at cappielow directing the traffic, and also pops into our office for a brew noo and again

He sounds quite unlike a cow!
I've always found cows to be courteous drivers and they certainly know how to use their horns.
mortonjag 2009-01-09 14:44:57
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 9 2009, 02:35 PM) [snapback]561655[/snapback]
Do you get that often? blush.gif laugh.gif

Unfortunately it's much more frequently 'Drap them or yer deid ya old c*nt'. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-09 14:51:18 It's the old story-players can be utter crap, but provided they have a good image with the fans, they seem to get off with murder, and are rarely dropped.

In Spoonsy's case, the opposite applies-one sh*te game and it'll be back to the same old nonsense! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-09 15:00:15
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jan 8 2009, 11:15 PM) [snapback]561487[/snapback]
Y'see, "Atmosphere" at football is a spontaneous thing, it isn't manufactured and someone blowing a trumpet, banging a big drum, May Hughes dancers, Doe-A-Deer, steel bands/pipe bands wandering around the trackside, music when songs are scored, singing for "Africans in Need" en-mass at half-time, or egotastic chairmen wandering about with a microphone enquiring "are you up for it?" doesn't exactly add any value to the occasion.

.........prompting enquiries from the 121 visiting fans of 'What the f*ck is THAT'! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-09 15:06:17
QUOTE(cmonaton @ Jan 9 2009, 03:01 PM) [snapback]561674[/snapback]
1 45

For those interested the ground is 2 minutes walk from Pollokshaws East station (and five from the Jag's hoose)!
mortonjag 2009-01-09 16:29:15
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 9 2009, 03:59 PM) [snapback]561693[/snapback]
...which we won 2-0 (goals by Caven and Byrne I think) to go through to the semi finals 2-0 on aggregate. I was there. Crowd was 23,000.

A great time was had-I remember we were crammed in like sardines up near the top corner between the WDE and the Shed-just standing on the rough ground with scarcely a crash barrier within twenty feet of us!
mortonjag 2009-01-09 16:33:58
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 9 2009, 04:10 PM) [snapback]561700[/snapback]
If you struggle to find something to do to occupy one Saturday - regardless of month - without football then you have issues.

Go see a film or something!

Of course I have issues-I have MANY issues-I'm a Ton supporter after all! mad.gif

That doesn't mean I won't be able to fill the time. Might just spend the weekend at St Andrews for a change of scenery.
mortonjag 2009-01-09 16:38:14
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 9 2009, 04:14 PM) [snapback]561701[/snapback]
Right so, I drive home and I find Mr McLumpher has parked his Merc outside my house; I have the right to go and tell him to shift it ? It's a public highway, first come first served I'm afraid.
No sorry mate, if there is a yellow line or a double yellow line you shouldn't park there and have no right to do so
For 2 reasons :

1.Because wee Mrs McKenzie is waiting for a bus at the bus stop, the driver needs a clear view of the bus stop to see if any passengers are waiting there without the wee old wummin having to jump out in front of parked cars to try and flag down the bus.

2. the driver should be able to easily drive into the bus-stop to enable traffic to pass by him without causing congestion.

That's why she's now so wee.
mortonjag 2009-01-09 17:23:14 Oh well, time will tell and you lot will be laughing on the other sides of your faces if he does a Craig Levein/Mixu Paataleinen. which IMHO is perfectly possible.

Irrespective of your personal issues, in terms of experience, Duffy is light years ahead of any 'manager' we've had since Rae took the reins.
mortonjag 2009-01-09 19:20:59
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Jan 9 2009, 05:54 PM) [snapback]561739[/snapback]
Is that you inviting us all round for a brew??????? laugh.gif

The burroo is half way between here and the Pollok stadium! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-09 19:32:57
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 9 2009, 05:38 PM) [snapback]561730[/snapback]
Bollocks, Duffy would have been a disaster and we would be playing 2nd division football just now if we had opted for anyone else but Irons, we got the best man available at the time.

Such baldy statements are best accompanied by a few explanatory words. I can only imagine that you think Mr Duffy is a POUFFE!

QUOTE(cmdc @ Jan 9 2009, 06:57 PM) [snapback]561753[/snapback]
Whilst I think this may be a decent appointment, I think you'v ehighlighted something that has been obscured a bit by our terrible start to this season...the fact that staying up last year was actually a pretty fine achievement...and, fortunatley, one that we look to be building upon. Albeit, the league is so tight it go go any way.

I fundamentally disagree-we stayed up by the skin of our teeth. We totally blew that vital match at Broadwood for example. Mr Irons is a past master of blowing vital matches. It's amusing that the TOTAL blame for our exit from the Scottish Cup has been conveniently dropped at a player's feet. Mr Irons is a past master of buck passing .

He's a poor man manager, and a worse tactician, with an ego almost as big as Shoogly's. Why anybody can rate him more highly than Jim Duffy defeats logic.

I'll grant you he's a competent coach, but they are 'ten a penny' as Soapy Soutar will confirm.
mortonjag 2009-01-09 19:38:46
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jan 9 2009, 07:10 PM) [snapback]561758[/snapback]
That may be the case with some but not me. If I see Peter giving 100% at all times he'll have my full backing. happy.gif

Indeed, but a Spoonsy giving 100% is a huge asset, whereas a Kev or Jimbo doing the same should still have seen them warming the bench regularly IMO. blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-09 19:51:57
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jan 9 2009, 07:03 PM) [snapback]561755[/snapback]
Thanks for all the advice folks but the lock has now been fixed and the letting agency have a copy of the key. Why they didn't in the first place is beyond me.

No apology or explanation given but there ye go. happy.gif

Not NEARLY satisfactory IMO.

You stated that they are not contributing to the cost of maintaining the remote entry system, yet they now have a key!!!!! So their tenant can get access, but how will he let others in/know when folk are outside? I'll bet you'll find the safety catch will be left up more often than not-defeating the whole purpose of a 'remote' system!

They probably body swerved their responsibility when the system was first installed. Communal facilities like those have to be communal-indeed I'd be surprised if somebody somewhere is not in breach of title deeds.
mortonjag 2009-01-09 20:04:16
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jan 9 2009, 07:35 PM) [snapback]561768[/snapback]
12 of us are flying out from Edinburgh airport to Bremen for my stag in Hamburg in a few weeks time.

My best man's havin trouble gettin cheap transport arranged from Largs to the airport. Best we've got's around £31 return each which ain't too bad but we're trying to find cheaper.

Just e-mailed Wilson coaches for a quote but anyone recommend anyone else?

If it's a cheap coach you're after give this guy a buzz.Clark coaches
mortonjag 2009-01-09 20:14:37
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jan 9 2009, 08:12 PM) [snapback]561797[/snapback]
That's another problem. We asked the LA who the landlord was and they said the flat "was owned by a company." I suspect this is s***e and something we'll be looking into in the coming days. I wonder if the landlord was even aware of the way the agent acting on his/her behalf was conducting their business? dry.gif

Just wanting to draw a line under it for now and move on. As I say we need their permission to get a satellite system installed so don't want to rock the boat anymore. laugh.gif

Thanks for the advice, though, will keep you in mind should any future problem arise. Another poster gave me a contact number for landlord registration in North Ayrshire which I've kept handy too.

Cheers. smile.gif

WHAT CAN I DO IF AN
OWNER WON’T PAY?
Under the Tenements (Scotland)
Act 2004, the installation of a door
entry system can be carried out as a
scheme decision. This means that if
the majority of owners are in
agreement, as long as you follow
the rules within the Act, you can
pursue any owners who fail to pay.
For small amounts, the easiest
option is through the Small Claim’s
Court. This procedure is cheap and
easy to use. Amounts over £3,000
are more complex and you should
seek legal advice. Contact
Edinburgh Sheriff Court on
0131 225 2525 for further
information, or see the Homeworks
leaflet ‘Organising Common
Repairs’.
mortonjag 2009-01-09 20:31:55
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 9 2009, 08:08 PM) [snapback]561794[/snapback]
I've criticised David McGregor in the past but I feel he's done well in the right back role this season. It seems most would agree our back four of McGregor, Shimmin, Greacen and Smith were performing well until recent events and are possibly the most solid defensive unit we've had in years. I've noticed however that McGregor wasn't really given much credit for this and yet people are saying we were a shambles without him etc.

He must have been doing something right as part of that unit for the defence to miss him so much. I'm talking mainly of his defensive role as I agree he's not the best coming forward, but that applies to most if not all our defenders. I feel that he and Smith, because they are naturally central defenders, have been part of a back four who work as a unit, always covering for each other and that's why they've been so effective.

As for Chris Smith, when you remember he kicked his first ball in first team football a few months ago, and not in his natural position, you could argue he's progressing very well, or even remarkably well if you think about it.

I think we, and I include myself, have a tendency to single certain players out as not being quite up to Morton standard, and then stick to that opinion even if the player improves his performances and starts to prove us wrong. We tend to judge these players on their weaknesses and ignore their strong points, as I say I'm guilty of it myself and I can see I've been looking for what Davie does coming forward and missed what he's been bringing to the defence. I see Dom Shimmin has commented favourably on the back four including Davie and Chris.

Sorry MJ, I think Davie's proved he's worth a chance at this level as a defensive right back.

I don't fit that bill at all!

I've watched DM over the years, always hoping he'd find that wee bit extra which would turn a more than competent all rounder into a success. I've made excuses for him regularly to others, citing his catalogue of injuries, and his professionalism and application.

Unfortunately it just hasn't come good. I watched Alex Walker at 'left back' last Saturday-he was far from perfect, but at least he showed some urgency, and made several searching passes. Near the end of the game he contributed to a run up the left wing which could well have resulted in a better outcome. Davie, on the other hand just seems lost at right back-now note that I'm NOT saying he doesn't move infield to provide cover-I'm talking about his performance AS A RIGHT BACK-and stand by what I said originally:


He's technically a better footballer than Smith, and he heads a ball better than Walker, but he lacks pace, and copes poorly under pressure resulting in gaffes and pretty awful distribution. Play him down a division and he looks OK and at 3rd division level where he has the time, he can look quite cultured.
mortonjag 2009-01-09 20:45:29
QUOTE(Yoda @ Jan 9 2009, 08:41 PM) [snapback]561817[/snapback]
few years ago I had to host a hen night for a burd who didn't have any pals. (her finance was a pal of my ex boyfriends) Any hoo she turns up demanding fed, then demands to be taken out, so we took her to the Bay just for spite you understand as her and her sister turned up dressed exactly the same, to the point I was asking why she was wearing her wedding shoes!!! (which stuck to the carpet in the Bay)

End up back at my flat and she is again demanding that she is served tea soooooooo Lapsang Souchong with milk and sugar, I am assured by Bridzilla that it tasted like smokey bacon crisps
lol

Always the hostess-eh!

T'would have been simpler to add salt. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-09 21:15:23 BTT, and the moment we've all been waiting for is almost upon us. Which of those two fascinating specimens of femininity is about to bite the dust.

Will plastic tits be voted off by a nation of jealous females to the HUGE disappointment of our resident breast experts, or will the Swedish shag bag have to pack hers?

I'm going for Ulrika! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-09 21:51:55
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 9 2009, 09:20 PM) [snapback]561828[/snapback]
ps. Real!

aye!


Anyhow that's her had her come uppance which just goes to show that a couple of kilos of silicone do not a celeb make! tongue.gif

I hope she's not too deflated when she gets home.
mortonjag 2009-01-09 21:57:07
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 9 2009, 09:45 PM) [snapback]561840[/snapback]
Wouldn't want to blow any budget on the fullback positions think we have competant players there and there are far more less productive areas in the squad .
I would keep our powder dry until the summer .

takes cover

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OK- bin Jimbo and superkev and replace with two wingers PLUS a Yantorno or Gowsa and I'll let you keep Davie in a box beside Jimmy Cowan's boot.


ANYWAY-I was indulging my passion for words and meanings and came across this:

2 DDFR Definitions


Daily Demand Frequency Rate
Director of Defence Force Recruiting

.....so I reckon Davie will be with us for a LONG time to come! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-09 22:06:30
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jan 9 2009, 09:17 PM) [snapback]561825[/snapback]
There's only one organ you should put in your wife!! laugh.gif

unsure.gif

Thighrod?
mortonjag 2009-01-10 09:58:56
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 9 2009, 10:43 PM) [snapback]561891[/snapback]
Okay, you're not going to budge from your opinion, fair enough though as you've given your reasons why. How would you explain though how Dom reckons our best back four is McGregor, Shimmin, Greacen, Smith, and how our defence have not been nearly as good without Davie?

Forgetting your reservations about McGregor what do you think has been our best back four unit over the last five years? I'm talking about a defensive unit who do what it says on the tin and stop the opposition from scoring.

Another trait we Ton fans have is we seem to forgive some players for weaknesses and not others. Some have said Alex Walker is not worth a place in midfield, yet is he really that far behind McGuffie, Paartalu, Masterton and Jenkins? How many players do we have who really perform to a high standard consistently, and how many do we pick out for these failings?

For instance I still maintain Jamie Stevenson on an off-day when "his attitude isn't right" or any of the other critisisms that are levelled against him, still has more creative ability than any two of our current midfielders put together, either in centre mid or out wide.

I'm starting to think we may be setting our own standards for our players, based on our perception of their abilities, then judging them against that perception, rather than their effectiveness to the team. For instance if we see Stevenson as a player who buzzes around the pitch covering every blade of grass, we will give him no credit if he doesn't do this but creates up to four goals in one game, which has happened. Similarly with McGregor we've got a picture of him as a cultured defender who can build from the back, then if he doesn't do this but plays his part in an effective defence he will be overlooked.

In contrast we will see Finlayson as a limited player who gives 100% and if he produces a fraction of creative play we will praise him to the heavens. You could say the same of McGuffie or Paartalu, I'm not sure why this is the case.

Do you or anyone else see where I'm coming from here?


For the simple reason that he prefers a back four and there's very little to choose from. I'd DEFINITELY have Walker on the right with Smith on the left for the simple reason that Walker is better at what Davie's bad at!

Otherwise I pretty well agree with all your sentiments-particularly about Jamie who isn't Irons type of player because Irons is power crazy (big and strong is more important tan wee and talented).
mortonjag 2009-01-10 10:08:58
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Jan 10 2009, 12:24 AM) [snapback]561926[/snapback]
We're talking about the same guy that got Dundee relegated twice and had Hibs 6 or 7 games away from relegation as well.

"Jim Duffy the man who became Dundee manager the first time round and who guided a 1st Division side into the 1995 League Cup Final but who could not get promotion with a team full of young talented players. At the end of his reign he then famously joined Hibs where he misguidely left in a helicopter to go on to a disastrous spell at Easter Road where Hibs were bottom of the league just as he had managed at Dens with Dundee."


He is FAR more experienced than Irons. He will hopefully have gained from those previous jobs where it's commonly perceived that he was not the only element in lack of success. I've not described him as an Alex Ferguson-merely somebody who COULDN'T be worse than what we've got! mad.gif


QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 10 2009, 02:12 AM) [snapback]561980[/snapback]
So you think Irons is a past master of blowing vital matches ie Peterhead that this is to blame for your boring day tomorrow !

Away an dinnae tak pish rolleyes.gif


Mr Weatherson caused us that game, end of ! wink.gif




A manager of a full time team which isn't at least a goal up three quarters way through a tie against a struggling shower of part timers two divisions down MUST have questions asked of him. The Peterhead game was a perfect expose of the Iron Man's flawed philosophy that the way to success is being hard to beat and hoping to score on the break.


Mortonjag NEVER talks pish! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-10 10:21:12
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jan 10 2009, 12:30 AM) [snapback]561928[/snapback]
Ya myopic auld fool laugh.gif , those are real.

Oh dear-another disappointed member of the Wanquee religion. Shall we say she already had a big semi detached establishment and had it extended symmetrically? biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-10 11:30:10
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Jan 10 2009, 10:47 AM) [snapback]562021[/snapback]
What experience? Experienced in failure more like.

I'm not a huge fan of Iron's, but choose between him and Duffy it would be Irons everytime. I'd even take JM back before Duffy.

Duffy's experience is what? That he has had an abysmal record with any club he has managed. A journeyman wouldn't blame his tool's would he?

Falkirk - Left for Dundee after 1 year.
Dundee - Sacked after 3 years and relegated them.
Hibs - Sacked after 3 years and half a dozen games from relegation.
Dundee - Sacked after 2 years and relegation.
Norwich - 3 games as caretaker, didn't win one game.

Coached at Chelsea and Portsmouth. Coach / Director of Football at Hearts.
If his stock was that high as a coach then why has he not been snapped up?

He's a hasbeen.

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Time will tell!

QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 10 2009, 10:54 AM) [snapback]562023[/snapback]
what about when Man Utd drew with Exeter? Liverpool against Barnsley, Aberdeen against Queens Park and so on and so forth?

Cup upsets happen, i'd rather they happened in our favour and against us rather than not happening at all. Peterhead had their day and fair play to them.

Of course they do darling, but in Irons case it was just more of the same!

Anyway the thread's about Jim Duffy-the latest defenceless target for some of our issue burdened afficionados, and as I've said, time will tell! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-10 11:40:15
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 10 2009, 11:19 AM) [snapback]562030[/snapback]
Not too sure, the picture would probably be a blast. rolleyes.gif

Hush thee lest Mr McArthur take notice!

Mopaed?
mortonjag 2009-01-10 11:59:45
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Jan 9 2009, 07:06 PM) [snapback]561757[/snapback]
not got to that bit yet

will probably watch part 2 tonight

chrissiboi.. I am sure he wasn't as saintly as the movie makes out

power generally corrupts even the best of mankind

Some might argue that the best of mankind eschew power.
mortonjag 2009-01-10 12:02:56
QUOTE(hoody @ Jan 10 2009, 11:39 AM) [snapback]562043[/snapback]
You will find its always the c***s that's off the phones that always back the place up . As stated maybe if they had a shot taking calls again they will find it has completely changed over the years . Last time some people took calls it was only text and voicemail they had to deal with , now its f***ing everything from mobile tv to f***ing broadband on laptops with next to no training .

Any remarks about 'if you don't like it leave' are straight out the managers guide book to being a dickhead . I
People want out but they know they have the area covered and can treat staff any way they like .

So you will find a divide in opinions of people that take the s*** on the phones and the people that walk about thinking they are important and do feck all .

Exactly-the big breasted and brown bugled brigade! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-10 12:08:02
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 10 2009, 11:45 AM) [snapback]562046[/snapback]
More of the same? Last time we lost to lower league opposition was in January 2001 against....Peterhead. rolleyes.gif tongue.gif

You're making far too much of this, which is most unlike you. smile.gif

More of the same-losing games we could and should have won my dear. Mr Irons is good at that! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-10 12:13:23
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 10 2009, 11:58 AM) [snapback]562050[/snapback]
I actually had a shot on the swings this morning before my breakfast.

I'm just sad when I see the neediness of this thread.

"look, look, look at me and listen, cos this is completely wacky, there was this ref right, and he gave a free right, and us lads, we're totally barmy like, well this ref has only gone and started to walk out the ten yards, and guess what we've only gone and done ? We counted it with him, it was hilarious like, we are so out of control"

It's like a bad Little Britain sketch.

TonInDublin

rolleyes.gif

It WASN'T about a Referee pacing out ten yards and a daft crowd proving they were numerate to ten-it was about a totally incompetent and over fussy wee fanny getting his come-uppance from a crowd who had had more than enough!
mortonjag 2009-01-10 13:07:12
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 10 2009, 12:31 PM) [snapback]562069[/snapback]
Nothing to do with that nach0 - I am the biggest critic on here probably of s***e referees.

As I said I listened to the whole game and saw most of it - and he was having a howler.

So it's nothing to do with the ref - it's to do with the way this thing seems to have become something it's not.

ie original or funny.

Been done thousands of times before - seen it happen countless times in the Premiership, anytime a ref is having a nightmare - so I'm struggling to see what the hoo-ha is - just as I was last week when it happened.

TonInDublin

For that I award you a yellow card-any more my friend and you're OFF! tongue.gif

It WAS original-it's never been done at Scapa in my lifetime-the spontaneity was astonishing and potently reflected the growing frustrations of the fans.....and funny---yes it was VERY, VERY funny, so funny in fact that sedate standsters were creasing themselves! Alistair Donald seemed amused too. His Cossack bunnet was joogling about on his baldy napper, while Shoogly clearly realised that, for once, we WERE 'up for it'!. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-10 13:10:54
QUOTE(ton1901 @ Jan 10 2009, 12:49 PM) [snapback]562085[/snapback]
And davie is better at what walker is bad at. Walker isn't a defender and i feel sorry for him being stuck at full back.

I agree and disagree!

NEITHER is a full back.

Walker isn't a defender.
mortonjag 2009-01-10 13:15:48
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jan 10 2009, 12:45 PM) [snapback]562079[/snapback]
I suppose i am one of the "I dont watch that fcking p1sh!!! But....." brigade, especially when these reality TV shows get obnoxious wierdos like Pakistani Trannys "Shobaz" and "Nadia", but because I saw two ordinary guys having a football discussion, and another conversation comparing areas of my hometown to Manchester and Detroit, I dont think i'm exactly converted into someone who likes it. Some people are really self obsessed on it, thats the turn off for me.

However, Ulrika's missing a podger. She's fit but she's terrified of looking like a right dirty slapper (again) otherwise she'd have Coolio hanging out of her.

What I want to know is this. If mini-me gets caught humping her, will he claim the others put him up to it?
mortonjag 2009-01-10 13:24:46
QUOTE(Yoda @ Jan 10 2009, 12:57 PM) [snapback]562090[/snapback]
lol no there was only one and I am still looking for the apostrophe I dropped.....

Given that I had made food, but that wasn't good enough, she whined for an indian takeaway which I went and fetched for her and she didn't eat, that she didn't like the wine I had, didn't like our music collection and was just generally disagreeable the minute she turned up at my front door, as she had been fighting with her sister all the way down in the taxi because the sister had identical clothes on to her. She sat in a huff despite numerous attempts to cheer her up. Add to that the fact that the rest of the girls who were supposed to be meeting us didn't turn up and left my pal and I with the twins from hell. I am surprised I didn't put salt in her tea, but she would probably have thrown up on my carpet.

The previous week through my old job I had organised a whole lot of treats for her and her mum in the run up to the wedding. Her fiancé was a friend of my ex her and I only knew each other through them, she organised everyone to meet at our house, her friends just didn't turn up.

Perhaps it was just pre wedding nerves that she was so huffy, but if you are visiting someone else's house, who has gone to the trouble of hosting something for you, would you not at least try to be polite?

I am not a nasty person, but there is a limit to the amount of nonsense I will put up with in my own home.....

If you were a nasty person she'd no longer be one.

QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 10 2009, 01:05 PM) [snapback]562095[/snapback]
Behold one and all the magical winter wonderland vista I see before me as I type.
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Aye right-I got the same calendar for Christmas! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-10 13:38:06
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jan 10 2009, 01:19 PM) [snapback]562105[/snapback]
In a similar note, I would like to see some enterprising individual ressurect "Cappielow Bugle" fanzine which had bitten the dust since the HS days and the advent of the internet and messageboards.

Morton FC needs on alternative outlet for supporters to air their views and comments other than this messageboard, which serves its purpose but doesn't exactly share the spirit of being an 'unofficial' voice for the supporters as its predecessors did and is too over-cautious about incurring the wrath of the DDFR junta.

Spot on! It WOULD be nice to be able to vent your genuine feelings without personal abuse from 'anonymous' insiders, and the nagging belief that the Mods don't give a f*ck about it.
mortonjag 2009-01-10 13:45:43
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 10 2009, 01:33 PM) [snapback]562111[/snapback]
To the left of the photo above...... tongue.gif

OK I believe you, but what's this about 'the computer room'-is the poor creature not allowed to live with the rest of the family? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-10 13:50:06
QUOTE(Muz @ Jan 10 2009, 01:35 PM) [snapback]562113[/snapback]
Which one was I mate?

Actually, on the contrary I know exactly what it's like on the phones. I'm not saying it's the best job, or place in the world to work but it's hardly the worst, but again not for everyone.

My point's more to do with people's attitude- moaning it's s***e but still going there to work. Why do something you dont like for your life? You spend more time at work that you do with your family so why do a job you hate?

You didnt like it and left. So did WDE, and so did countless others. You only get one life so why sit on yer arse and do something 8-9 hours a day that you dont like? If you do you've only got yourself to blame, so you didnt and are you happier now? I would say yes?

You know others very well who have done the same dont ya?

Not everyone's cup of tea, but some people and I know you'll find this hard to believe, actually like working in call centres! ohmy.gif
Nice- so everyone who's not on the phones is a c***. I'm not backing the place up at all mate, but surely if you hate it that much you'd have done something about it?

Your comment about taking calls is a bit redundant- I am not saying it's easy or a good job- not at any point have I said that. But.....if you hate it that much why do it?Take a leaf from Forza's or WDE's book and leave and do something you like?

The comment about people and the area covered? Come on man- you telling me that there's nothing you can do to get something you like and the nasty people at T-Mobile are making you work there? Come on to f***. blink.gif

That's not from any imaginary manager's book- it's just common sense mate. Loads of people that I have worked with have left to go on to better jobs, either in this area or outwith. It's all about how much YOU want it.

The last part about people who walk about and do feck all- I think that's a bit childish. You dont know what they do, I can assure you that I dont think the way you state, as I've been there and done it, liked it, didnt like it and then got on through working and applying for other jobs.

I am not a "company man" as my friend stated earlier-I just wouldnt stay and do something I hated, for 8 hours a day of my life for how many years. Just my opinion, maybe I'm wrong.

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Join the Scientologists Muz-they just adore folk with your positive attitude.
mortonjag 2009-01-10 14:29:13
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 10 2009, 01:50 PM) [snapback]562130[/snapback]
Experience doesn't cloud the fact that he's tactically inept and woeful in the transfer market.
The second time he got Dundee relegated he can pass the buck because of administration, but the first time, and with Hibs, he's got no one else to blame. His track record is terrible and I'm convinced that if we'd appointed Duffy instead of Irons, we'd be in the Second Division right now.

Peterhead are only one division below us, and they aren't struggling in it. Going by that logic, a full-time team should always beat a part-time team? That's a condescending and arrogant presumption to make. Are you forgetting that we had 10 men too, when Irons was unable to change it as he'd already used the striker he had on the bench? You can't blame Irons there; he can't legislate for a player getting himself stupidly sent off.

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I assume that you dislike Duffy and favour Mr Irons! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-10 14:32:45
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 10 2009, 01:52 PM) [snapback]562131[/snapback]
Nah, they've all gone shopping in Brussels.

I'd rather snog you than go shopping in Brussels full stop, never mind in this weather. blush.gif

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Let me know when the next trip's scheduled! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-10 14:41:34
QUOTE(Muz @ Jan 10 2009, 02:27 PM) [snapback]562144[/snapback]
Did I say that? No.

Last post on the subject anyway. Waste of time, I am far from an advert for the place.

I sympathise with you Muz. It's very, very hard to give in when you know you're right and everybody else is wrong, but sometimes there's no alternative. sad.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-10 14:50:09
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 10 2009, 02:41 PM) [snapback]562157[/snapback]
I've sussed it ... you're definetly getting Mr Irons confused with Mr McInally. smile.gif

I may get many things wrong my dear, but I can certainly tell a supercharged windmill from a dead tree!
mortonjag 2009-01-10 15:02:27
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 10 2009, 02:56 PM) [snapback]562165[/snapback]
Do something important with your time instead of wasting your life on a pishy web program FFS.



Suggestions?
mortonjag 2009-01-10 15:09:15
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 10 2009, 03:05 PM) [snapback]562170[/snapback]
Cross dressing? Murder? I'm going out to fix my back garden gate now as the wind has blown it off. There's a world of possibilities out there.

Of course there is Peter-I was asking one young man what his suggestions were for those other young men. Broken garden gates are often non-priority in the eyes of free and non opressed young males.
mortonjag 2009-01-10 15:12:47
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 10 2009, 03:03 PM) [snapback]562169[/snapback]
He did play for EK Thistle, you are correct.

I must admit I'm enjoying this series. Can't watch BB when it's under 'normal' circumstances though.

When will Sheridan shag Ulrika?
mortonjag 2009-01-10 15:19:53
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 10 2009, 03:16 PM) [snapback]562188[/snapback]
I see. I envy the young and their 'free time'.

Indeed Peter-as they say, 'Youth is wasted on the under 45's'. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-10 15:25:29
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 10 2009, 03:21 PM) [snapback]562192[/snapback]
Absolutely right. I am a 80 year old man trapped inside the body of a younger, more handsome man.

Of course you are Peter, and I, unfortunately, am a blithe young spirit encapsulated in the body of an aged Methodist.
mortonjag 2009-01-10 15:29:59
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 10 2009, 03:27 PM) [snapback]562199[/snapback]
It's just not fair Douglas but what can we do?

Perhaps we can but pray, Peter.
mortonjag 2009-01-10 15:32:15
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 10 2009, 03:14 PM) [snapback]562186[/snapback]
Dean Keenan has scored for Ayr to make it 1-1 against Killie.

Does ThornTON know yet? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-10 15:35:46
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 10 2009, 03:32 PM) [snapback]562204[/snapback]
If I had a choice between the two I'd take Irons every single time, aye.

I understand. If I was offered 'seconds' I'd probably gamble on the one still in its wrapper too. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-10 15:40:03
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 10 2009, 03:30 PM) [snapback]562201[/snapback]
I got £300 of bank charges over several failed direct debits between 29th Dec and 5th Jan. I phoned the bank up and spoke to a nice guy, I'm not sure if he was gay or not, and told him I had been a customer of the bank for 20 years and had my mortgage with them and that my wife/gay lover had recently opened an account with them too.

Imagine my delight when the guy on the phone told me he'd cancel all the charges and told me to have a good weekend. smile.gif

£300 is a lot of dough to me just now so this is a fantastic gesture as I know it was my stupid fault for busting with my overdraught.

My overdraught was only busted for 4 days whilst I waited on Phil The Power Taylor winning, they sent me 6 letters between 29th dec and 6th jan as thats when all my DDs come out so I just thought it was excessive and hoped they would maybe knock £100 or so off but to give me it all back, well done Bank Of Scotland.



THE BANK OF SCOTLAND _ A FRIEND FOR LIFE.


I wouldn't worry about that. He'll probably know himself.
mortonjag 2009-01-10 15:46:15
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 10 2009, 03:38 PM) [snapback]562208[/snapback]
Together Douglas?

Together and separately Peter, joined by the Holy Spirit, we are apart, but united in an eternal bond of love and fellowship, world without end.


Amen.
mortonjag 2009-01-10 15:49:28
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 10 2009, 03:44 PM) [snapback]562215[/snapback]
Well done Scott Brown. We should all be backing our big team here!

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mortonjag 2009-01-10 15:55:12
QUOTE(porTONian @ Jan 10 2009, 02:39 PM) [snapback]562155[/snapback]
Bernie Slaven? I know he played for us and I'm pretty sure he managed some team.

Don't think so though he's had a chequered career!

wiki
mortonjag 2009-01-10 16:12:38
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Jan 10 2009, 03:55 PM) [snapback]562224[/snapback]
Write to the club.
I'm sure you'll get your perfume back at the end of the season.

On a grey day like today, I suppose black humour is permissible.

I got plenty more for my Christmas-my partner says I smell like a POUFFE blink.gif
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mortonjag 2009-01-10 16:16:32
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 10 2009, 03:49 PM) [snapback]562218[/snapback]
Re: the earlier 'things to do' part of the thread. Try making a brie and chedder toasted sandwich. I just have and it was lovely. I'm off to clean the toilets now. Fantastic.

Aim carefully or she'll be narking again!
mortonjag 2009-01-10 18:06:59
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 10 2009, 05:45 PM) [snapback]562280[/snapback]
Come on now, MJ. It's so This Charming Man can look at artistic websites in private of course!

Everyone should have a Computer Room.

In my day one simply went to the toilet with a copy of the sun! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-10 18:10:59
QUOTE(cmonaton @ Jan 10 2009, 06:04 PM) [snapback]562290[/snapback]
Well they don't do they?.

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mortonjag 2009-01-10 18:14:43
QUOTE(BringBackMcGowan @ Jan 10 2009, 05:37 PM) [snapback]562277[/snapback]
Heard From a Thistle fan at work that they had signed two local boys from Morton In the summer and Both Where in full time over the christmas perioud.

Surely Morton must have know that Thistle we're lookin at them . Why didn't They try keep them?
When was the last time we seen a good youngster coming on to the scene ?

I believe the new Director not only takes an interest in the Youth set up, but also in fan/Board relations.

Wouldn't it be a good idea to drop him a line?

EDIT TO ADD:

He is Stuart a MR DUNCAN who used to post here.
mortonjag 2009-01-10 21:08:13
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Jan 10 2009, 07:24 PM) [snapback]562318[/snapback]
BRING BACK McGOWAN!


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QUOTE(Zutons @ Jan 10 2009, 08:45 PM) [snapback]562351[/snapback]
Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story! rolleyes.gif

EH?

Are you sure that those are the facts?

Is Mabawsa Ritchie some club spokesman or something? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-10 21:12:38 10 days of this sh*t now! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-10 21:22:47
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 10 2009, 06:49 PM) [snapback]562306[/snapback]
I might have texted him the good news happy.gif
And the wee rat-faced fvck bust my coupon!!! mad.gif


I had £1000 on a draw!


QUOTE(Zutons @ Jan 10 2009, 08:06 PM) [snapback]562330[/snapback]
Another swipe at the chairman from toby. 1eye.gif

A second pathetic bleat from you this evening at the merest HINT of criticism of the club. Are you an insider too? dry.gif

Edit to add:

Toby quoted 'The Chairman' verbatim. His post merely illustrates that that old fud is oot his box at times. shutup.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-10 21:34:10
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 10 2009, 09:29 PM) [snapback]562368[/snapback]
Should have put it on Phil Taylor!

I believe he's a darts player but can honestly say that I don't take much interest in the pastime.
mortonjag 2009-01-10 21:46:57
QUOTE(Zutons @ Jan 10 2009, 09:34 PM) [snapback]562371[/snapback]
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Must be something I said! rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 10 2009, 09:39 PM) [snapback]562374[/snapback]
Apparently it's a sport..personally I feel any sports person I can beat in a flat race shouldn't be considered a sports person. laugh.gif

More of a pub game than a sport.
mortonjag 2009-01-10 21:52:19
QUOTE(Zutons @ Jan 10 2009, 09:40 PM) [snapback]562376[/snapback]
Two friends don't make a good game, The second semi was ok.

Pop corn for tomorrows game.

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mortonjag 2009-01-10 22:10:18
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Jan 10 2009, 09:56 PM) [snapback]562384[/snapback]
He said this ...
... here to help.

Oh, wasn't it you that used to complain about the ignore function. Naming it the "huff button" if I recall ? You were actually right, and I've never used it myself.

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Neither have I-I was merely making my original point in a novel manner! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-11 09:32:33
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 10 2009, 11:58 PM) [snapback]562406[/snapback]
You should care about getting that video uploaded though! get it done, or else!

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I'm beginning to wonder if this 'video' exists. Some folk will do anything to be the centre of attention. biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-11 09:44:14
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 10 2009, 10:24 PM) [snapback]562388[/snapback]
Never had you down as a darts fan ... rolleyes.gif

I once imagined myself as Jocky Scott-a flight of fancy I may add.
mortonjag 2009-01-11 09:53:19 Compare and contrast Alex (Peter Pan) Williams' behaviour yesterday with that of the ageing Stephen Grindlay, the other hero of the piece-discounting Deano's goal of course in case ThornTON gets upset.

Williams still looks like a naughty wee schoolboy caught smoking behind the bike shed while Grindlay appears almost monastic.

Come this Wednesday they will both be the same age!!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-11 09:59:55
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 11 2009, 09:37 AM) [snapback]562477[/snapback]
I wonder if Nachoking's real name is Scott Struthers.

AH-the famous Hamilton video of Sanny's goal which was 'impounded by the SFA' and never mentioned thereafter. Mind you I really DON'T think Nach0's a POUFFE.

QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 11 2009, 09:41 AM) [snapback]562479[/snapback]
Yip, as clear a case of self aggrandisement as you're ever lively to see. smile.gif

Indeed-I despise such behaviour.
mortonjag 2009-01-11 10:04:43
QUOTE(Deego @ Jan 11 2009, 07:28 AM) [snapback]562443[/snapback]
I hear the big breasted lady is out. Quality, my regular shag is back.

Big breasted suits are out as well-though your avatar clearly hasn't a clue .
mortonjag 2009-01-11 10:18:31
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jan 11 2009, 08:45 AM) [snapback]562468[/snapback]
Nope, i hate all this PC s***, people come from certain places people are certain coulors & certain religions and yet we're not allowed to mention it, I've seen and heard the phrases paddys, yanks, sassenachs frogs, krauts, taffys, jocks ect ect, why are they less offensive to the pc brigade than calling someone from pakistan a *potential ethnic slur removed* ? simple, cos they relate to white people mainly and you cant be racist to white people.

I use the word *potential ethnic slur removed* regularly, so what, i make no apologies for it & i wont stop using it cos some do-gooder whines about it.

f*** POLITICAL CORRECTNESS !!!! mad.gif



I entirely agree. The word 'p a k i' is being used MORE AND MORE ACCURATELY in the 'smoke' nowadays, and the Pakistani community don't really give a f*ck about being identified as separate from the palpably unwelcome mid European rag-bag that's been foisted on Glaswegians of all ethnicity.


QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 11 2009, 10:04 AM) [snapback]562488[/snapback]
excuse my ignorance but where is this video ?

Nach0 has it in his archives. Currently he's busy editing 'Ten Steps To Obscurity', after which he'll get beasted into 'The p a k i who stole my slice roll'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-11 10:24:30
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 11 2009, 10:09 AM) [snapback]562492[/snapback]
Lab coats must be in then. smile.gif

They've never been out for me!


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mortonjag 2009-01-11 10:39:38
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 11 2009, 10:23 AM) [snapback]562506[/snapback]
Thing is though, it's generally used as a derogatory term to describe anyone from the whole Asian sub-continent, so it's also offensive to Indians, Bangladeshis and Sri Lankans.

WHERE?

QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 11 2009, 10:26 AM) [snapback]562509[/snapback]
Exactly, MortonJag seemed to be saying that the Asians in Glasgow have got used to being called pakis, and don't really care now. And I thought, well certainly the pakistanis amongst them, maybe. smile.gif

Precisely Dong-I've had this argument repeatedly. I LIVE in an area with the highest concentration of 'Asian' folk in Scotland. I've worked with them as colleagues, treated them as patients, and have several who are friends. My partner has two close workmates who are described affectionately as the 'two pakis'-they love it and rip the piss out of proddies calflicks etc., etc.

Now BEFORE our PC f*nn**s start to argue-when those boys are having a SERIOUS discussion about problems in-say- Govanhill, they will come out with comments like 'Yes but the Pakis don't get involved in that', and so on.

As beermonkey points out there's MUCH more to a word than its simple existence. It's how the word is used, where it's used, and the reason for its use which should be assessed.

Am I still allowed to type *potential ethnic slur removed* brown, and if not-why not.

You see-because we live in a world of PC clowns! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-11 10:57:52
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 11 2009, 10:41 AM) [snapback]562523[/snapback]
People take offense when offense is intended, that's the whole point.

I've already said that many, mainly older, people use the term with no offense intended. But many more people do use it as a racial slur, that's an undeniable fact.

I'm sure most Asian people can differentiate between the two
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PRECISELY!

QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 11 2009, 10:44 AM) [snapback]562524[/snapback]
Do you think your average racist can tell the ethnic and national origins of all people from the Asian sub-continent just by looking at them? I'm fairly sure they generally lump them all together under the same group.

I can't say I know exactly what's meant by 'average racist'. Calling any brown man a '*potential ethnic slur removed*' is at the very least ignorant.

QUOTE(stuart @ Jan 11 2009, 10:49 AM) [snapback]562528[/snapback]
I could never see myself using the phrase that Prince Harry has used.

If I was meeting someone new in a foreign country and I thought they were Scottish I would have no problem saying "So, you are a Scot are you?" whereas I would imagine that no sensible person would say to somebody they thought may have been from pakistan "So, you are a Pak1 are you"? That's the diffference I think, most people know it is offensive and wouldn't actually use it - and rightly so. It is a little depressing that people aknowledge that it is offensive to people in society yet claim they will continue using the phrase - it's just a pointless phrase and I wish people would stop using it.


No it's NOT-not where I live, as I've clearly described.
mortonjag 2009-01-11 11:47:37
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 11 2009, 11:27 AM) [snapback]562559[/snapback]
well i've done without antivirus software for 8 years now and this is the first virus i've had.

thanks for the advice geezers. i'm about to try installing avast on it from disc.

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Many a pregnant woman's told a parallel tale!
mortonjag 2009-01-11 14:17:49
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 11 2009, 11:54 AM) [snapback]562576[/snapback]
It wasn't a goal ... offtopic.gif jerry.gif

It most certainly WAS a goal. Even at this late date Thomson's behaviour is utterly reprehensible. mad.gif

QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 11 2009, 11:58 AM) [snapback]562583[/snapback]
I am now emailing it to puggsy as I've attempted no fewer than seven video programs, none of which could open the .mp4.

It's in his capable hands now biggrin.gif

He's takin' his bloody time! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-11 14:44:22
QUOTE(se65an @ Jan 11 2009, 11:16 AM) [snapback]562548[/snapback]
The poor chicken or cow, your about to eat rolleyes.gif
I agree with what your saying, but in a PC world where this little chap see himself to be in, the word "*potential ethnic slur removed*" is not the best word he could have come out with.

Anyway, his Dad was running about on his maw for years, his maw played the public better than most and if she wisnae deed, his new Step Dad was a *potential ethnic slur removed*

How can anybody possibly offend a bit of meat? blink.gif

QUOTE(Andy M @ Jan 11 2009, 11:41 AM) [snapback]562568[/snapback]
Having served in the armed forces a good few years ago, just about everyone I knew in there had some form of nickname. Very few took offence. The mix of cultures and backgrounds was unavoidable and never a problem. Scots were often referred to as Jocks, the Welsh were Taffs .... etc etc

Even cross-forces nicknames were accepted - RAF = Crabs, Army = Pongos. We called the navy WAFUs - a term of endearment which actually means Worthless And Feckin Useless.

We had one guy in our barrack block who didnt like being referred to as Pak1, so someone came up with Stan - he loved it and was known as Stan from then on in.

Generally, it's the context which is the problem, as someone above has already pointed out. It never bothered me in the slightedt if someone called me Jock, but calling me a Jock bastrd was a different matter.

Post Falklands War, whilst serving down there, a directive was sent out by some PC @rsehole that we were not to refer to the islanders as Benny's any more. Again, most of the islanders didnt take offence to being called Benny's. We jokingly then referred to them as BUGs instead (Bloody UnGratefuls). So in effect, the PC halfwit actually caused a problem, cos they certainly didn't like being called Bugs.

Why cant we just call a spade a spade? wink.gif ..... but that's another serviceman's story.


As is their wont-a bloody scourge on decent society that self propagating and anonymous breed of creep. I bet they have 'issues', to use the in phrase, to the very last MAN!!! laugh.gif
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jan 11 2009, 11:55 AM) [snapback]562579[/snapback]
At the end of the day it's a mountain out of a molehill, i can just imagine harry sittin in his palace when that news broke, playing his xbox or something... guy comes in and says harry, that video of you saying pak1 has just been on the news... harry doesn't even turn round, waves his hand in the air in a dissmissive manner and says "yeah, tell em i'm sorry or something" and carries on with his game and smokin a fag.

I bet he doesn't give a s*** !

strokin'?

QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 11 2009, 12:27 PM) [snapback]562600[/snapback]
I'm sorry I don't believe for a minute the lad didn't know he was known as that in the army. I wonder if the boy will now make a claim for damages? Tell Gibby he has never been referred to as Jock in the army and see if he believes you.

As for George Galloway's comments in his interview, he is a f***ing imbecile, so those who use the word P@ki do so because they hate them? But those who use the word Jock or Taffy don't? laugh.gif

So if I tell the missus I'm off to the P@ki's to buy the paper, I say this because I hate the person, even though I might spend 20 mins in the shop chatting to him? FFS people need to get off their high horse.


I salute your mastery of understatement Sir.
mortonjag 2009-01-11 14:59:20
QUOTE(Zutons @ Jan 11 2009, 02:39 PM) [snapback]562661[/snapback]
Jamie's heart is somewhere else.

So is his left epididymis I believe. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-11 15:01:37
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jan 11 2009, 02:43 PM) [snapback]562664[/snapback]
If we'd only known then what we know now.

How much would this accumulator have earned at the bookies:

Scotland to reach the final.
Figo to become the world's most expensive player.
Pele to publically admit he can't get it up.

Actually, I'm half expecting WDE to have had a fiver on it. smile.gif

When's the meeting?
mortonjag 2009-01-11 16:40:34
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jan 11 2009, 02:59 PM) [snapback]562668[/snapback]
Celtic's crowd of 23,070 on saturday is comparable with the average attendances of Juventus over the past four seasons, who averaged a home gate of 23,978 between 04/05 to 07/08; Sampdoria who averaged 21,821 in the same time period; Bordeaux who averaged 24,527 between 04/05 and 07/08; Espanol who averaged 22,116 in the same time period and Anderlecht who averaged 24,573 also within this time.

I can understand your point that just over 23,000 is a small attendance by their own standards of 59,000 folk hanging from the rafters and sitting behind pillars, but it is still a respectable crowd when compared to some of the clubs mentioned above, who are considered amongst the largest in their respective countries.

The same could be said for Scotlands national team, who'd have no problem selling out a must win tie against Italy, Holland, England or France several times over, but would struggle to get more than 20,000 to turn out for a midweek meaningless friendly against Romania, Hungary or Austria.

Maybe the romance of the cup doesn't float their boat down Parkhead way either.

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More likely that half of the 'best fans in Scotland' took it as written that they'd hump a scabby first division team at home and couldn't be arsed lending their support.
mortonjag 2009-01-11 16:42:11
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 11 2009, 12:52 PM) [snapback]562618[/snapback]
Doesn't sound like our Deano.

Deano was much misunderstood.
mortonjag 2009-01-11 16:49:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 11 2009, 03:08 PM) [snapback]562671[/snapback]
A apologise, I have been out the house all morning and have only now received the email.

The file isn't compatible with my phone so I am currently converting it, then will send it and edit it.

Mortonjag...do something useful for once. I need a good description for the video when it gets uploaded to youtube so that everyone viewing it are perfectly clear as to why the video is the genius it is.

So I am thrusting this responsibility to you, make a good description for the video.

...the upload of this shall be the essence of team work

Get on it!

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QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 11 2009, 03:09 PM) [snapback]562673[/snapback]
Note that puns don't often make good search engine terms so try to imbue the description with as little crazy as possible.



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OK gentlemen:


The ref can always count on Ton fans!


...or something like that.
mortonjag 2009-01-11 17:00:39
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jan 11 2009, 04:06 PM) [snapback]562706[/snapback]
I can't believe no one has been offended by me moking Pele's impotence? There must be a few on the board with the problem.

Come on, stand up for yourselves!

I do have to comment as a medical man that I felt it slightly inappropriate.

I have long since accepted, however, that I am totally impotent when it comes to our Mods who are always very hard on me.
mortonjag 2009-01-11 17:04:01
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jan 11 2009, 04:30 PM) [snapback]562720[/snapback]
he was in the sunday times today
he said that the "some of the abuse on it (the morton website) beggars belief"

Pele would agree, I'd imagine. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-11 17:15:51
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 11 2009, 04:50 PM) [snapback]562733[/snapback]
...that's it?

I was wanting more along the lines of the game, the teams, the referee and why the incident occurred.

I'm not putting it up - and it is ready to go - until you do so happy.gif

Edit - The ref can count on ton fans bit can be the video title though...get on the description wink.gif

I thought you only wanted a title

QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 11 2009, 04:58 PM) [snapback]562736[/snapback]
What about something along the lines of....

'Following the repeated inability of the referee to pace out 10 yards at free kicks in a Scottish 1st division match between Greenock Morton and Queen of the South, the home fans spontaneously decide to help him count out the yardage.'

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I'm wetting my pants with excitement here.

I'll adapt that thanks.

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 11 2009, 05:03 PM) [snapback]562740[/snapback]
It's all on mortonjag...once the good doctor delivers his description it shall be placed online smile.gif



Greenock Morton v Queen of The South: 3/1/09


Match referee Stevie Nicholl was having a howler. His gaffes were becoming so frustrating that the crowd decided to lend a hand. In troubled times, you can always count on a Ton fan.
mortonjag 2009-01-11 17:27:09
QUOTE(Savo @ Jan 11 2009, 05:15 PM) [snapback]562749[/snapback]
George Cowie hasn't been mentioned.

He was with us twice, once on loan from Hearts (in the title winning season, I think), and had a second spell here a couple of years later.

He then went on to manage in the Highland League with Forres Mechanics. Was on hollday in Menorca in early 90s with my folks and we met him, think he was managing or coaching Buckie at the time, and he was talking away about his memories of Cappielow.

He later coached in Australia and ended up becoming manager of the Solomon Islands international team.

I see Doug Cowie has, but his partner in crime in Hal Stewart's earliest successes was Archie Robertson who went on to manage Cowdenbeath and Clyde.
mortonjag 2009-01-11 17:35:25
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 11 2009, 05:23 PM) [snapback]562757[/snapback]
Johnny boy was right, that's pish. tongue.gif

Johnny boy was wrong!

Unfortunately the video (thanks to nach0 and Puggs for efforts) can't really convey the atmosphere and spontaneity. If it was played more slowly and a crescendo sound subbed on, you'd get it more like the real thing.

It WAS extremely spontaneous and very, very funny in reality.
mortonjag 2009-01-11 17:41:19
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 11 2009, 05:36 PM) [snapback]562770[/snapback]
I know he was, I was just being a wee bit cheeky, sorry. blush.gif

Alors, plus ca change!
mortonjag 2009-01-11 17:47:28
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Jan 11 2009, 05:44 PM) [snapback]562774[/snapback]
An interesting statement from someone who said at the Town Hall that he never looked at messageboards or used the internet because he couldn't even switch on a computer...

Maybe, like Mr Donald, he got somebody else to read it for him! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-11 17:52:34
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jan 11 2009, 03:49 PM) [snapback]562692[/snapback]
Why is everyone so down on Tommy Sheridan? (readingtoo much of the Sun & NOTW no doubt)He would do anything to help the Scottish people He fought the Poll Tax for us...the newspapers seem hellbent on destroying him...as though they are scared of him. He should keep his tongue between his teeth sometimes, apart from that, I like him

Because he's a turd.
mortonjag 2009-01-11 18:06:08 It's always the same on those threads-spot the sanctimonious arseholes who haven't a bloody clue what they're talking about and make it up as they go along.


The word 'p a k i' IS used in context in this part of Glasgow day, and daily, and often by people of Pakistani origin. That IS A FACT, and I defy any of you to prove me wrong.

As several have correctly pointed out (much to the annoyance of the holy willie purists) it is NOT the word per se which is offensive.

Is this statement offensive per se?

'That guy looks like he's spent too long in the sun'!

WELL! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-11 18:11:29
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 11 2009, 05:29 PM) [snapback]562765[/snapback]
i've got that book, it's great.

btw i got a cracker in tesco last week for £7 - british football grounds from the air. amazin book smile.gif

Is that the one with the foreword by Jamie Stevenson? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-11 19:36:23
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 11 2009, 06:22 PM) [snapback]562805[/snapback]
The problem is though MJ there's a huge grey area between those who use the term completely innocently and without any malicious intent and those who do use it with racially abusive intent, and therein lies the problem I suspect.

In most cases it may be easy to differentiate between the two extremes, but in others it may not be so straightforward. So simply by using the term you open up the possibility of misunderstanding and causing offense, even if that's not the intention, and for that reason alone I would never use it.

But it's up to the individual to decide what's right for them, I suppose, and if you think it's OK to use it then batter on.

By opening your mouth you raise the possibility of misunderstanding and causing offence, even if that's not your intention!

I have no intention either of keeping my mouth shut, or of 'battering on' as you evocatively put it. I am extremely careful to avoid offending folk. I'm sure you must have noticed that. laugh.gif

I agree in general with your sentiments, and believe you're trying to be reasonable, unlike the 'all or nothing' PC ignorami who have adulterated this thread with self indulgent sh*t stirring nonsense.
mortonjag 2009-01-11 20:18:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 11 2009, 08:02 PM) [snapback]562875[/snapback]
Yep. But given the borders of Pakistan and India were only drawn up 60 years ago there is no sure-fire method of doing so, bar taking precise census details of those who have migrated to these shores. You may take care with your approach but we all know fine well the vast majority of people do not. That's the ignorance that breeds casual racism within society.

I imagine that somebody who is relatively young and has lived all his life in Inverclyde might not be able to identify the subtle differences between one brown person and another. Living in a multicultural society it's quite different-it's not just about different dress codes or accents-even body language is a give away.

BTW I'd love to hear a precise definition of your expression 'casual racism'!

mortonjag 2009-01-11 20:39:11
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 11 2009, 08:22 PM) [snapback]562892[/snapback]
Yeah, because there are 0 people of Asian origin in the Inverclyde area, whereas Glasgow is Islamabad with cholesterol. rolleyes.gif
Pray tell, how would you be able to identify a citizen of Kashmiri origin? Do you just call them a 'disputed territorian'? I wouldn't know as I've clearly not had your years of infallible experence.

Let's put it this way child-I can tell a 'p a k i' from an Indian with 90+% accuracy guaranteed. If you want to meet me up here, we can take a wee trip along Kilmarnock Road together and take shots each at 'Spot the Indian'.

You still haven't defined 'casual racism' for me! Is it just a term that germinated in your over active little cranium, or are you now frantically searching your big books in some puerile straw clutching attempt to disguise the fact that in truth you haven't a f*cking clue about this issue.
mortonjag 2009-01-11 21:03:20
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 11 2009, 08:46 PM) [snapback]562900[/snapback]
Neither. I'm not and never have been your lacky responding to your inane questions. I'll post as I see fit.
It's not suprising that the old bitters among us think they have the gift of dividing races into sub-groups through a laughable system of eugenics. Feel free to publish a book marking each and every one of the perceived traits of the Pakistani and Indian peoples. I for one would be thrilled to receive your help as without you, well, I'd simply be lost.

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So you're calling me a liar!

You're not up to my challenge I note, nor have you yet defined 'casual racism'!

The fanciful ideologies of inexperienced kids add absolutely nothing to this serious debate. I've suggested to you before that those who are willing to learn from more experienced people gain an immediate advantage over their arrogant little peers.

It seems that you prefer to learn the hard way. I think that's patently daft! sad.gif

mortonjag 2009-01-11 21:43:32
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 11 2009, 09:09 PM) [snapback]562909[/snapback]
I've learned thus far that the humble and not in any way bitter Mortonjag claims to do the following:
Be able to run a football club more successfully than a chairman with genuine business experience
Have a better grasp of tactics/coaching/player attributes/signing policy/pies at the stall than 2 qualified football coaches with genuine coaching experience
Have an infallible opinion on nigh anything based on his limited and dogmatic interpretation of 'experience'
Be the consumate medical expert
Can identify a nigh infallible system of racial profiling through his experiences with various headscarves in Glasgow.

Have I missed anything out there?
What's your next trick? Turning water into funk?

Teaching cheeky young brats how to spell.

Time for cocoa.

Toodlepip. wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-12 10:10:55
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jan 11 2009, 10:23 PM) [snapback]562936[/snapback]
Since every man and their dog has given their view on this non-entity of a news story, here is my 2 rupee worth. Its only a shortened version of the word Pakistani, like Scot is the shortened term for a Scottish man/woman, what no one has explained is why it is offensive ? does the shortened version mean something else ? like does it translate into a different word, for example, Pakistani- person hailing from Pakistan, p aki - illegitimate child of Satan. I don't think it does, i believe that it was used years ago as a generalisation for the influx of Asians in the 70's, nowadays i would virtually guarantee that the majority of us could tell the difference between pakistani's, Indians, Thai, Nepalese etc etc. Since the story broke i have been hearing statements from organisations like the Muslim Council of Great Britain blaming the right wing, you have politicians being apologists for the Pakistani community and everybody claiming the word is a racist slur, so how about this for a solution, why dont the Pakistani people decide what the shortened word should be, then we could all call them by that with no fear of insult, for example pak's, pakinians, pakoids, pakonians etc etc etc. Problem solved, now to solve that other problem in Gaza.

Exactly, and when the term 'p a k i' is used inoffensively to refer specifically to a person of Pakistani origin-not infrequently by 'pakis' themselves in my experience, it assumes the same proportions as 'Yank' or 'Aussie'.

QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 11 2009, 11:21 PM) [snapback]562973[/snapback]
here i thought you were always complaining about ageism? works both ways. ya daft old b*****d.

Less of the impertinence. Jag slagging is passe-haven't you noticed dear?

I dislike ageism. I'd never dream of discriminating against anybody purely on grounds of years on this planet. That will not stop me from challenging arrogant little upstarts who dare to imagine they can match me in experience. Before you ask-aye I'd love to tan their little pink bums. laugh.gif

QUOTE(scotia morton @ Jan 12 2009, 01:43 AM) [snapback]563016[/snapback]
This country is going Mad!! And its not the lunatics that will be taking over this asylum! Its the PC Brigade and the bloody incoming low life that take one way tickets into a Christian Country and then do hee haw but complain about it!
Pakistani's will always be referred too as Pakis.


Quite possibly.
mortonjag 2009-01-12 10:18:13 Trick, I have to say that that thing makes Sir Clive Sinclair's bete noire look entirely sensible!!!


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mortonjag 2009-01-12 10:31:02
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jan 12 2009, 02:27 AM) [snapback]563020[/snapback]
hate to lower the tone of a very highbrow debate
but does anyone else think the female comedian who started the campaign is a bit of a fox?
There is a certain resemblance! smile.gif


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mortonjag 2009-01-12 10:43:25
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 12 2009, 07:08 AM) [snapback]563026[/snapback]
I don't want to get embroiled in this, but aren't we just the same?
People couldn't get tickets for the B and Q cup final in 92....

Look at all these morton "fans" at the Peterhead title winning game....
etc.

Can I give you a wee tip Dong-stop burning your arse on fences. If you don't want embroiled stay oot! laugh.gif

I doubt if many true Morton fans would like to hear that

DONGA SAYS MORTON AND CELLIC FANS CAN'T BE TOLD APART!



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mortonjag 2009-01-12 10:49:55 It's not often I attempt to mediate! laugh.gif

To TiD-I understand what you're saying-seeing it 'live' on YouTube is frankly a huge let down.

The point is you were not there and 90% of the enjoyment was in the participation!
mortonjag 2009-01-12 11:12:58
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 12 2009, 10:52 AM) [snapback]563077[/snapback]
Me sit on fences? I thought I was getting chastised by you for having a point of view in the Prince Harry thread, and various others. smile.gif Which way would you like me to behave today, master? wink.gif

What i'm saying is, we get a bigger turnout for bigger games too, just like Celtic?

Do you get a burnt bum from sitting on fences? MJ, your patter is a fcked up as you.

You were not being chastised by me. You stated that the word 'p a k i' per se is offensive and you were wrong and there's nothing to be ashamed of in being wrong. It happens to me once in a while too!

The point is that Mr Rae claimed that Cellic fans are better than ours. Quite frankly I've given up on Mr Rae for the time being. He's his own worst enemy and he means well. I guess I could get to like him if I tried harder!

Haven't you ever heard of a carpet burn, a rope burn, etc.? You don't need a flame thrower up your arse to get your cheeks chapped! laugh.gif



mortonjag 2009-01-12 11:56:56
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 12 2009, 11:27 AM) [snapback]563084[/snapback]
I'll take your word for it, expert! smile.gif

sorry I said you were fcked up.

That's one thing you are right about. I've never denied it! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-12 12:00:06
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Jan 12 2009, 12:56 AM) [snapback]563012[/snapback]
If Jamie Stevenson ever plays in the SPL, I think I'll pursue a career in football. smile.gif

That's the sort of statement which can come back to haunt you!

Jamie Stevenson has proven ability and potential. Mr Irons has not-particularly in the man management stakes.
mortonjag 2009-01-12 12:02:33
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 12 2009, 09:24 AM) [snapback]563049[/snapback]
Traynor supports McInally's stand against The Blazers and stating a coaching certificate doesn't mean you can coach a team, and vice versa - I await the jokes! smile.gif

Anybody who takes a stand against the SFA deserves a pat on the back. What are the details Dong?
mortonjag 2009-01-12 12:08:41 Tonsilitis may be wrong in detail, but in principle he is correct. We just can't afford costly exits from Cup competitions, and you can blame Spoonsy till the cows come home, but this season Irons just can't seem to make us score goals when we most need to. We have the backbone of a great side and we've still almost three weeks to make some changes which could totally alter our style.

Over to DI.
mortonjag 2009-01-12 12:51:58
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 12 2009, 12:17 PM) [snapback]563102[/snapback]
Does Irons get the credit for when we do score then? If players can score at some points in the game and not at others then it's hardly the managers fault. Well done Irons though for Weathersons last minute goal last week.

Irons will certainly get credit from me if he constructs a side which is regularly capable of threatening the opposition.

You KNEW THAT of course! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-12 13:41:58
QUOTE(suda @ Jan 12 2009, 12:57 PM) [snapback]563121[/snapback]
are we not the form team in the league over the last 8 games?

I haven't stated otherwise!
mortonjag 2009-01-12 13:45:26 Sounds just like the SFA! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-12 13:48:27
QUOTE(axeman @ Jan 12 2009, 01:30 PM) [snapback]563134[/snapback]
http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/articles/2/32687

Article says more players have to go before any new arrivals, and there's also the possibility of a game against Ayr at Glasgow Green tonight.

What was all that stuff about Yantorno then? dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-12 13:55:49
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 12 2009, 12:32 PM) [snapback]563105[/snapback]
He has proven ability at second division level, that means nothing. He's not the superstar he thinks he is and he's not owed anything by anyone. At best all he is ever going to be is an average first division midfielder. Even full of confidence there are many midfielders in this league who are better than him, and thats even with the first division losing McDonald, Robertson, Mcarthur, Mcarthy and Neil.

I'll take your word for that Sir! blush.gif

So where does that leave our starlet Jimbo who's always 'attracting interest from big clubs', because you can take it from me Stevenson is TWICE the footballer, and like it or not, he WAS frozen out!

I still believe that if Jamie can sort out whatever needs sorted, he can have a bright future.
mortonjag 2009-01-12 14:01:27
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 12 2009, 12:53 PM) [snapback]563119[/snapback]
What what and a what what??? mellow.gif blink.gif huh.gif

Something about-do you really want to be in Mo's gang Peter!
mortonjag 2009-01-12 14:08:28
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Jan 12 2009, 01:53 PM) [snapback]563146[/snapback]
Eh ?
Might have been a player that they had their eye on big time. Now that they didn't get him, they're going to take the sensible approach. Seems fair enough.


It doesn't make any sense at all to me, IF we were in for Yantorno. That would surely indicate DI was looking to strengthen the attack. If there was money for him, where is it now?

If there's no money in the kitty I understand, but why tease us with that sort of story first.
mortonjag 2009-01-12 14:15:01
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Jan 12 2009, 01:54 PM) [snapback]563148[/snapback]
Apart from all those games that we've won recently. And those two goals we scored when 2-0 down against QoS. Other than that, nah, we can't do it.

I'll ask you this then Dom Dom!

Instead of all this stuff about being the 'form team', and boasting about a smattering of goals of late, tell me the last time an opposing goalie had to put in a decent shift against us!

I've said from the start of the season that I estimate we'll finish fifth, and see no reason to change that opinion. That doesn't mean I'm not sickened week in, week out, by Irons' utterly predictable and boring 'tactics'. I'd love to see decent attacking football and more goals.

Mr Rae agrees with me.
mortonjag 2009-01-12 14:20:46
QUOTE(Jamie_M @ Jan 12 2009, 02:15 PM) [snapback]563162[/snapback]
It's not necessarily a case that 'there was money available for Yantorno, where is it now?'

Maybe I play too much football manager but - you had your budget, you know your budget, you spent your budget. That's it. To spend more - you need to free up some cash by moving a few players on.

HOWEVER, should a player become available that is within our realistic reach, a talented player, one that would excite the fans and breathe new enthusiasm into the team then we may be able to take a hit and push the boat out to make it happen. Yantorno the target. If a similar 'big' signing became available - the same rule may apply...

Or to put it differently, don't believe a word you read about Morton in the Tilly? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-12 14:26:01
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Jan 12 2009, 02:01 PM) [snapback]563154[/snapback]
I think you're being a bit too kind tbh.

He failed to impress for us, even in the 2nd division (despite what some on here say he was average at best and even then, that was only on occasion), and he's just failed to impress for Alloa in the 2nd division.

Just because he played for Mallorca or whatever seems to fool people; he is piss poor.

Aye but he DID save them almost single handedly from relegation previously and was getting rave reports in the papers, and you know something!

I can't remember a solitary poster not being DELIGHTED when he came here because his talent and potential had already been demonstrated.

OK the boy's been a bitter disappointment to us-probably to himself too- and needs to kick start his career again or call it quits, but uninformed posts like yours simply cloud the issue.
mortonjag 2009-01-12 14:31:04
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 12 2009, 02:27 PM) [snapback]563167[/snapback]
Sure I read somewhere that Mourinho got one of his coaching badges at Largs. unsure.gif

They were selling badges at the Marina.
mortonjag 2009-01-12 15:42:27
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 12 2009, 02:40 PM) [snapback]563172[/snapback]
That'll be Division Two then?

I was really happy when we signed Stevenson at first, but can anyone give us a single reason to believe he's good enough for this league?

More importantly can anyone explain what went wrong.

Folk who state he hasn't the ability to play at First Division level are just being daft.
mortonjag 2009-01-12 15:49:53 I was glad when DI arrived. We escaped relegation-not in an earth shattering manner, but he must be credited with that. He also has a reputation for excellent coaching-mind you his predecessor did too.

I have serious reservations about his ability when it comes down to man-management, and he's obviously not the best tactician. Whether Duffy would be better in those departments I'm not sure, but I believe he couldn't be worse.

I wouldn't have touched Alexander with a bargepole, going on his apparent personal instability, but who knows-he might have proved a winner.
mortonjag 2009-01-12 15:57:32
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Jan 12 2009, 03:19 PM) [snapback]563180[/snapback]
Don't deflect. You said we can't get goals when we need them. That was false. Every win in this league matters.

Are you willing to accept that, with the wins that we've had this season, and the two 3-0 wins at the end of last season in which all of those goals counted, that we CAN score goals when we need to ?

We may not be winning pretty, but we ARE winning. Would you prefer us to be getting beaten if it meant playing better football ?

I NEVER deflect! ph34r.gif

As an attractive attacking footballing side we are pure keech, and that is down to one man.

THERE! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-12 16:01:46 I think children are a pain in the arse.
mortonjag 2009-01-12 16:11:30
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 12 2009, 04:01 PM) [snapback]563195[/snapback]
Attractive football teams generally fail in the big, tough first division. DI has a big strong team, not particularly flashy but one that is (now) grinding out more satisfactory results.

It's seems you're not happy; not with what he's doing but the way he's doing it. For me, the fact he's now getting good results is enough.

Were Morton to start playing more 'attractive' football, I think we'd find that they slip elegantly to the bottom.

Not quite. I acknowledge that we've managed to halt the slide (which was in no small measure his fault anyway), and are back on track as the difficult to beat side who can't score many goals and will probably end up 5th as predicted by Mortonjag before the season started.

Where I take issue (mainly) is that we DO have competent enough strikers for whom even an average supply of chances would see the goals coming. I'm not talking about wanting midfield lightweights to dance about like fairies , making lovely passing moves, and petering out near goal-we had enough of that before-I just want the supply chain sorted, and the football will become attractive enough for even mortonjag!

mortonjag 2009-01-12 16:29:23 Just got the motor back. Full service and free valet-£199. That's half what I'd have paid the main dealer. Three warranty jobs done properly, and courtesy car flung in too!

The owner is ex- service manager at Western Saab and deals personally with all customers.

It's not often one gets excellent service, and I'm happy to recommend them.
mortonjag 2009-01-12 17:02:54 Doubt if any of you nut jobs will be able to deal with this seriously, but try honest answers.

They're both the same age-- in fact they're both the same in pretty well everything except that Jane is not very attractive. She is, however, intelligent, loving, and very loyal by nature.

Susie's as 'hot as s***'-everybody wants to shag her, but she's yours if you want. One problem! She's notorious for being a dumbo, and for jumping from bed to bed.

Which one would you choose as your lifetime partner?


Me-mine's a combination of both! cool.gif

mortonjag 2009-01-12 18:12:01
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 12 2009, 06:05 PM) [snapback]563223[/snapback]
You really couldn't decide fairly until you'd shagged them both. Jane's probably dirty as f***.

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mortonjag 2009-01-12 18:20:31
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 12 2009, 06:15 PM) [snapback]563228[/snapback]
So basically...they aren't the same in any sense what so ever? huh.gif

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mortonjag 2009-01-12 19:58:41 Sorry to hear this news-best wishes for a speedy recovery.
mortonjag 2009-01-12 20:12:21
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 12 2009, 07:36 PM) [snapback]563261[/snapback]
Aplogies for cannabalising your post but that statement sums it up perfectly.
Let me tell you a little ditty

I work with an 'Asian' lad (Pakistani origin but wholeheartedly a Scot) who I regard as a friend. I spent several weeks down in Manchester with Ahmed and came to love his wicked sense of humour.

We had a lad whose family where from Senegal and let’s just say I think he liked a smoke of something or other, anyway we had a chitty for the pub but this lad would come in each night and spend all his on crisps.
After a few days of this we were sitting having lunch when Ahmed turns to Danny and says 'what you doing with all those crisps?' (Remember £25 worth of crisps is a fair amount), Danny say's 'I’m eating them', quick as a flash Ahmed turns round to him as says 'ye cannie be, your selling them to happy Abdul at the local Pakki's' cue hilarity from myself and a couple of others but some where shocked by this and sat open mouthed. Ahmed was unperturbed and continued to jibe Danny about his apparent black market in crisps.

Says it all really.

BTW Ahmed is from Glasgow and to add to MJ's claims, he has said to me in the past he doesn't know anyone who takes offence to pakki as 99% of the time it is completely innocent. His phrase was 'a term of endearment', he admitted when someone is clearly being abusive the word takes on a different light but he also added you could make any word sound aggressive if you wanted.


Cheers Barbie-that gives me courage to elaborate a bit on the two 'Asian' guys at my partner's work. They both see themselves as Glaswegians, and indeed one (Stewart) has a Pakistani Dad and a Scottish mother while Ateeq's parents were both from Pakistan. Now it's a big office where those guys are both very popular. Stewart is known as 'The half caste', while Ateeq is simply 'The P a k i'. Not only do they accept the nicknames-they enjoy them. One of Ateeq's favourite 'put downs' of his mate is apparently-

'Well at least I'm a REAL P a k i' !!

That's just another wee true story to add to Andy M's and yours.

Tends to get it up the PC arseholes on here methinks! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-12 20:18:42
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 12 2009, 05:19 PM) [snapback]563217[/snapback]
Who is Mo and why would I want to be in his or her gang? blink.gif

Stop being paedantic, Peter! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-12 20:25:12
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jan 12 2009, 08:08 PM) [snapback]563291[/snapback]
Hate to go down the 'jag route here but I've just seen your age. Sorry if I take your views with a pinch of salt considering you've been brought up following Morton greats like Emilio Bottiglieri and Anton Smith.

I don't need lectured on the merits of Jim McAlister, if you've read any of my posts form about 3 years back I said he was being talked up into something he's not. Nice to see the rest of you finally catching on. blush.gif

Take Jim out of the side and we'd suffer dreadfully in an attacking sense? laugh.gif

How, exactly? laugh.gif

Shoogly would attack Irons? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-12 20:30:51
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 12 2009, 08:20 PM) [snapback]563300[/snapback]
only if you dont use lube.

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QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jan 12 2009, 08:22 PM) [snapback]563302[/snapback]
that is up there amongst some of the sickest things iv heard! lol

I know-even the thought of two at once makes me grue.
mortonjag 2009-01-12 20:46:17
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Jan 12 2009, 08:25 PM) [snapback]563306[/snapback]
That's what I meant about the counter attacking thing. When we're defending corners etc, Jim is always the out ball and the players always look to get it to him right away.

I kind of agree about his attacking capabilities overall, but I think it's to do with the position. Look how good he's been against the SPL sides we've played and that's when he's been running infield and driving straight through the middle. If only he could shoot, he'd be fantastic played behind a front 2.

He's still one of the first names on the teamsheet for me anyway, but you'll never agree so fair enough. smile.gif

PS Mel Bottiewhatever will always be remembered for one of the greatest goals I've ever seen in person. tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2009-01-12 20:50:47
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 12 2009, 08:35 PM) [snapback]563312[/snapback]
Get well soon Bryan! I thought old Mortonjag was sounding a bit unregulated these days!!

Less of your cheek child. Bryan is my pal-I give him a wave every week at half time but he still hasn't sussed who the Jag is.
mortonjag 2009-01-12 20:55:52
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jan 12 2009, 08:43 PM) [snapback]563321[/snapback]
I know where you're coming from, but I'm not so sure that's really the case.

I think he's got a few % more out of certain players than McInally (who had a reputation, with some, as a good man-manager did). I don't think he's popular with the players, but equally I don't think that equates to bad man-management.

That moment earlier in the season where he criticised certain players in the press looked like terrible man-management at the time, but it worked and I'd say he's now got the players working harder for him than they have any of his predecessors in the Rae era.

There was a lot more to things earlier in the season. If he now has the full respect and co-operation of all the boys that can only be good for us. I can't help feeling that Mr Grady is the main reason for the resurgence in recent weeks.
mortonjag 2009-01-12 21:00:27
QUOTE(Zutons @ Jan 12 2009, 08:38 PM) [snapback]563316[/snapback]
Agreed.



Of course it's a hard league, but taking that argument to its logical conclusion you should still have a 50/50 mix...in other words there should be room for players like Jamie.

DI's philosophy appears to be that big and strong wins all.
mortonjag 2009-01-12 21:05:27
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 12 2009, 09:00 PM) [snapback]563334[/snapback]
I agree, Finlayson is a better outball option that Jimbo at the moment but to some extent I think that is down to teams having learned how to play him - they seem to double up on him all the time and you seldom now see a McAllister run to the byeline - he can't get there. He's still a useful player but not as good as many would have you believe and I have thought for some time that he maybe needs to warm the bench occasionally

I've seldom EVER seen that. What I have noticed recently is that he's getting some balls over with his left foot-that's an improvement, even if they're pretty random-so credit for working on that. His finishing, however, appears to have got WORSE.

There's surely a raw untamed talent in Jimbo but it seems to me that he'll have to move on before he'll get a Manager who will learn how to get the best of him. It suits DI (just as it suited JM) to use him as a dogsbody.
mortonjag 2009-01-12 21:11:05
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 12 2009, 08:13 PM) [snapback]563295[/snapback]
Marry Jane and pump Susie on the side (hides behind couch from wife ph34r.gif )

She ain't a blow up doll with lateral fuds Barbie!
mortonjag 2009-01-12 21:14:43
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jan 12 2009, 08:44 PM) [snapback]563325[/snapback]
Even then, you still don't get any sex. wink.gif

Nonsense-he's turned me down twice in the last week saying there was something more urgent to get into.
mortonjag 2009-01-12 21:18:34 I imagine our thoughts should be with the family.
mortonjag 2009-01-12 21:49:06
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 12 2009, 09:28 PM) [snapback]563354[/snapback]
I remember having a debate with you on this board some years ago about this subject MJ. You'll not be surprised that we still disagree. What you describe has not been my experience of living in Glasgow's South Side for 25 years and working in Govanhill for the past 13 years. I have friends, acquaintances and work colleagues of South Asian origin and to the best of my knowledge, none of them are comfortable being referred to as 'P a k i s' by white people. True, they may not be greatly offended depending on the circumstances, unless of course the term is coupled with expletives. I understand that they use the term amongst themselves, but usually in a self-deriding way, similar to the way some Black Americans use 'n i g g a h'. If such terms can cause offence where no offence is intended then I think they're best avoided. Call me a PC arsehole if you like, I don't care (and won't take offence). tongue.gif

Your 'friends, acquaintances, and work colleagues' may perhaps be a select middle class bunch Mr Edwards! laugh.gif

I too have spent many years living in the South Side-I've been in the Pollokshaws/Newlands/Shawlands area for over five years and also lived in the Mearns for over ten. More importantly, in my job, I've been in and out of literally thousands of 'Asian' homes and have got to know many 'Asian' familes extremely well. Those contacts are entirely separate from my own 'Asian' friends acquaintances and one time work colleagues.

I'm merely stating this to balance yet another feeble attempt to endorse the labelling of the word 'p a k i' per se as a racist term, which, in Glasgow at least, it is for the vast majority of the time, simply NOT!

Having read your post again, however, I note that your multitudinous contacts don't actually appear to see it that way either.

Call me a 'quack' if you will. I find that word quite offensive to honest law abiding ducks.
mortonjag 2009-01-12 22:08:09
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 12 2009, 09:30 PM) [snapback]563355[/snapback]
They are indeed. With Hattie's eleven kids.

So be it-my thoughts are with Hattie's eleven kids Mr Bam. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-12 22:17:12
QUOTE(TBI1978 @ Jan 12 2009, 09:55 PM) [snapback]563371[/snapback]
I have similar experience to yourself. Lived in the South Side of Glasgow for 24 years and went to school at a well know mixed race school in Shawlands - the term Pak1 was very much taken as an offensive term then. This was over 10 year ago mind you and thing may have changed. My opinion is why use the term if it may cause offence, people from Pakistan are Pakistani, people from India are Indian etc, I can't see the problem with that.

PS MJ you cant call my experience middle class laugh.gif Shawlands Academy, I dont think so !!!!

I wouldn't even call that a school-but that's another story! laugh.gif I guess it goes back to what was originally said. If it's used in a deliberately offensive way (as often happens among schoolkids) it's not on.

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 12 2009, 09:56 PM) [snapback]563372[/snapback]
No, my friends acquaintances and colleagues are drawn from all classes (and castes). You'll maybe know that Asian folks have a mildly derogotary term for White folks : 'Gora' in Hindi /Urdu and 'Tubob' in Punjabi. It means 'whitey'.
Apologies Mentaljag, I'll never call you a quack again. laugh.gif

But that's the whole point Mr Edwards-you're trying to argue that a word should be banned just because it MAY cause offence, and that's where 'Political Correctness' loses its way.

'P a k i' can be extremely offensive in certain circumstances. So can 'fatty' 'tich', 'four eyes', and so on, and PLEASE do not refer to my monkey as an ape.
mortonjag 2009-01-12 22:23:55
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jan 12 2009, 10:17 PM) [snapback]563391[/snapback]
as far as i am concerned its all a load if nonsense and a shortening of what country the peopla are from pak1, chinky etc i aint offended to be called scots or jock or sweaty sock to be honest i coulnt give a flying flock because as far as i am concerned the pc mob have gone to town and ruined a lot of what used to be good ie banter, used in the right way it can be humerous and perk folk up. PC monkeys can bolt as far as i am concerned as for harry, who really cares or should we have him beheaded.

For using that unmentionable word he deserves worse!

Trouble is that the same fairies who object to it are too weak kneed for capital punishment! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-12 22:35:42
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 12 2009, 10:26 PM) [snapback]563398[/snapback]
I've not accused you of being racist on this thread, have I? Are you inferring that I am?

Deep down I think you know the point that's being made here. Jim, if you want to continue using the word 'Pak1' and see absolutely nothing wrong in that then that's up to you.

But you're obviously not daft and therefore you must know that in some circumstances your use of that word can cause offense. That obviously doesn't bother you, and that's your choice, but why on earth you point blankly refuse to just say 'Pakistani' to avoid causing such unnecessary offense, only you know.

Exactly CHC-that's the nub of this whole ridiculous argument-should we all stop using words just in case they MIGHT cause offence. If so, where does it all end. One of the commonest pieces of Glasgow humour is to say to a little chap-in a shop for example- 'What can I do you for big man'? (Oh and f*ck those who say I don't speak for Glasgow because I know it like the back of my hand). I reckon that could be bitterly hurtful to some folk, but the point is it's not meant that way. It's a cruel world out there CHC. Occasionally we have to bite the bullet and accept that one cannot fart against thunder.
mortonjag 2009-01-12 22:39:55
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 12 2009, 10:27 PM) [snapback]563400[/snapback]
Don't worry...I'm sure your experience wont match whatever the jag has to say about it dry.gif

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Back to your poison dwarf behaviour I see-well f*ck off or grow up.

(no offence of any kind intended) laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-12 22:48:01
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jan 12 2009, 09:58 PM) [snapback]563375[/snapback]
I just don't think he offers enough from a defensive point of view and to be part of a central midfield pairing in this league, both players have to be pretty strong central midfielders; not players who pussyfoot about. I still think a central midfield trio of Stevenson plus two of Jenkins/Masterton/McGuffie could be a very useful set-up, but that means playing a 3-5-2 (Peter has thrived as part of a pairing, I don't think he would do so well in a 4-5-1) which has shown its defensive frailties.

Therefore in short, I can't see us deviating much from a 4-4-2 and thus I can't see us accomodating Jamie in the side in the near future. A useful player to have on the bench though by all means.

OH FFS_let's just use ten bloody defenders and be done with it. You lot and your crazy wee football manager games drive me crazy. Football's supposed to be about SCORING GOALS! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-13 09:27:21
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 13 2009, 01:29 AM) [snapback]563480[/snapback]
That worries me. Why do local boys want to leave Morton to play for Partick Thistle.

Maybe it's not correct. Is Mabawsa Ritchie an official club spokesman? blink.gif

QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jan 13 2009, 09:13 AM) [snapback]563497[/snapback]
One thing that I actually noticed from reading about the youth players on the official site is that a high percentage of them are actually from Glasgow. There were only a few from within the local area. Does this indicate that we are still missing out, or is there still the issue that many local boys clubs will not reccommend their players to us as our set-up is still regarded as being poor?

That might partly answer the question.
mortonjag 2009-01-13 09:49:04 After thirteen pages of varied and often heated debate, a group of Greenock Morton Supporters came to a somewhat loose understanding that none of them would lose sleep over the word p a k i, unless it was used in a deliberately offensive way. smartass.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-13 09:59:14 I suspect Sean spells the word 'waine' because his name is pronounced SHAWN

Wean in Sean's house becomes WHAWN, and of course a bean is a BHAWN, a dean, a DHAWN, and his favourite family member is his Auntie JHAWN! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-13 10:24:11
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jan 13 2009, 09:41 AM) [snapback]563506[/snapback]
Thats RACIST!!! The correct term would be "c**k like a melted candy"

Not all brown men have brown knobs. I'd post a picture from my medical archives, but it would probably be deemed NSFW, and we CAN'T have nasty employers getting upset at paying folk for doing SFA! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-13 10:33:50 I hardly watch telly at all those days. I've got a wee freeview box but don't waste MUNNY on Sky and such, so it's nice to get the chance to watch some live football.

You've got to imagine that the Saints could just pull this one off-well, let's face it, if you don't there's little point in watching.

With all the debate about Irons, Alexander, Duffy, etc. hats off to Derek McInnes in his FIRST managerial position. He always had the personality to motivate others and he's doing 'no too bad' up at Perth.

T'would indeed be something of a laugh if the often rubbished Midge were to play a blinder.

He, of course, is FAR TOO LIGHTWEIGHT ever to feature in an Irons eleven! laugh.gif

C'mon ye Saintees! bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-13 10:39:01
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 13 2009, 10:28 AM) [snapback]563514[/snapback]
Aye, good old Enoch, he was a great Scotsman.

He may not have been a Scotsman Mr Edwards but many regard him as a saint. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-13 10:50:07
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 13 2009, 10:42 AM) [snapback]563520[/snapback]
Apart from Irons playing him in every game possible while they were both at the club?

not sure if you're joking or not MJ, but i challenge you to a cyber duel anyway * slaps you accross face with glove *

AHA-but bear in mind everybody was trying to tease wee Midge back to Scapa-something he was FAR too wise ever to contemplate, and I guess Auld Shoogly would have said something if he hadn't played him.

Anyway-he wouldn't get a game now for the simple reason that it would be far too sensible to play him.

Why EVER gamble on winning when you can hang on for a draw? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-13 10:56:08
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 13 2009, 10:49 AM) [snapback]563521[/snapback]
St Enoch's was demolished years ago. biggrin.gif

If you are referring to the Railway Station Mr Edwards, I must correct you. The term was St. Enoch Station, though commonly called 'St. Enoch's, by the plebs!

There still exists, of course, the vestigial shopping mall dedicated to our patron Saint of Racism.

Poor old Enoch Powell-he didn't get it ALL wrong you know. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-13 11:07:31
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 13 2009, 11:00 AM) [snapback]563524[/snapback]
Depends on your point of view. I think he was a messiah of madness. Remember the look in those eyes of his? The same look that you saw in the eyes of Thatcher and Blair. 'I have all the answers, I cannot be wrong'. A conviction politician that should've been convicted.

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Well you know my views on politicians!

If we can spent thirteen pages arguing about a daft word, I guess there's no point in opening the can of worms that is folks' perception of immigration laws.

SO-all I will say is, 'everything in moderation, and one step at a time'. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-13 12:26:35
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 13 2009, 11:52 AM) [snapback]563541[/snapback]
The phrase 'half cast' is a particularly nasty phrase. We have a friend with two daughters, white mother, black father and the phrase disgusts me.

It's still a perfectly legitimate term though, Peter.
mortonjag 2009-01-13 12:30:10 sh*t happens. He sounds to have been a very bad man and will now be burning in the fiery furnace no doubt.
mortonjag 2009-01-13 12:37:39
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Jan 13 2009, 12:31 PM) [snapback]563549[/snapback]
Il buy one! The man is having a great season for us & has potential to be a Ton legend. He just stays round the corner from me in Glasgow actually, so i could go stand outside his flat wearing it.........or would i get jailed?? ph34r.gif

The boy who stayed one season and netted Shoogly a cool £500,000? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-13 14:17:45
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 13 2009, 01:39 PM) [snapback]563569[/snapback]
Surely the benefit of having so many Swarzenneger types is that they could allow someone like Stevenson to play.

When Stevenson was trying to establish himself under McInally we had a midfield of lightweights and midgets who were all expected to track back and defend as well as attack. Finlayson and McAlister are the surviving members due to fully complying with the manager's wishes.

We had guys like Miller, Stevenson, Sheilds, McAnespie etc. and before that McLaren and Maissano. Surely it stands to reason Stevenson would have more chance now as he should be able to focus on creating and let the incredible hulks get on with the defending.

I think he'll get his chance soon. Does anyone have the Ross County programme and the time to post Dougie's comments?

That certainly makes complete sense to me.

Does anybody really remember Jamie at his best with Alloa? He was FAR from a shrinking violet, and often made powerful runs at defences from quite deep. On form he's a damned sight more productive than most of our current midfielders, and he can score goals too.
mortonjag 2009-01-13 14:38:42
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 13 2009, 01:19 PM) [snapback]563563[/snapback]
There was nothing poor about Zantzinger, he was a rich white racist killer. I think it's Heylin that's indulging in misrepresentation, not Dylan. The case in Scotland that you mention is another example of gross injustice. Your point was?

I confess that I've only now heard the details of this story.

How many innocent victims did this violent and homicidal racist mow down during his rampaging career Mr. Edwards?

I think the judge and jury may have had their opinions coloured by the medical evidence-or there again- was that part of an evil racist plot?

Cerebral haemorrhages in hypertensive patients often occur during periods of stress. It seems she died primarily of a cerebral haemorrhage. He undoubtedly put her under enormous stress.

It seems to me that as a killer he wasn't really very good. Why choose a cane and not a gun-why leave his victim virtually unmarked-why not plan ahead and assassinate her silently in secret?

HMM.

A bad man undoubtedly. Intent on killing that woman? Well he's shot the crow now, so I guess we'll never really know! What does seem pretty clear is that he was extremely drunk. Drunk beyond reason?
mortonjag 2009-01-13 14:46:11
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 13 2009, 01:01 PM) [snapback]563558[/snapback]
And, as with the term in the original post, one that only a cretin would use Douglas.

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Very good Peter!
mortonjag 2009-01-13 14:56:41
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 13 2009, 02:47 PM) [snapback]563594[/snapback]
Oh come on Douglas, you know it's true. tongue.gif rolleyes.gif

I must say, Peter, that I find the term 'half-caste' much less offensive than 'cr*tin'.

Good gracious, I'm sure CHC will be the first to agree that the mere publishing of the word on a pubic massage board risks offending thousands of innocent victims of hypothyroidism.

Sometimes Peter, just sometimes, you disappoint me. laugh.gif

cr*tinism!
mortonjag 2009-01-13 15:01:15
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 13 2009, 02:49 PM) [snapback]563596[/snapback]
Not an acceptable defence or mitigating circumstance under the law of any country whose legal systems I've any knowledge about, and certainly not the Scottish, UK or US systems.

It may be the difference between murder and manslaughter if you can prove the addition of the alcohol meant there was no malice aforethought for the crime being committed - but it never excuses it - and to recap - he was charged and found guilty of manslaughter, not murder.

TonInDublin

..Nor did I suggest it was, though, as you say, the court decided he had not intended to kill.
mortonjag 2009-01-13 15:07:58
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 13 2009, 03:01 PM) [snapback]563601[/snapback]
Ok Douglas, in the spirit of the thread I apologise for using the word. I'll change it to 'intellectually challenged' or 'the hard of thinking'. laugh.gif

I should think so Peter, though I am of the humble opinion that the term 'intellectually challenged' may possibly cause offence in some quarters. CHC would undoubtedly agree.

Can't you think of a less offensive term for cretins those possibly, but by no means certainly, (for who are we to judge) unfortunate folks, Peter? blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-13 15:30:05
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 12 2009, 10:38 PM) [snapback]563412[/snapback]
Marry the bint that's good in the sack. If you want any decent conversation phone yer mates (or come on this forum) rolleyes.gif

What about the love and loyalty bit CLAYMORE C*CK? laugh.gif

QUOTE(Mr.Kennedy @ Jan 13 2009, 01:16 AM) [snapback]563478[/snapback]
You can smarten up the hot one for free...a facelift probably costs a fortune. I'd take the dumb one.

Supposing though, as has been suggested, that's she's plain but quite capable between the sheets?
mortonjag 2009-01-13 15:34:21
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 13 2009, 03:27 PM) [snapback]563613[/snapback]
I see no embellishment. As the song says, Zantzinger killied Hattie Carroll, even the Judge and Jury agreed with that. The injustice was the lenient sentence.

Who is the poosy with the guitar Mr Edwards?
mortonjag 2009-01-13 15:40:50
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 13 2009, 03:32 PM) [snapback]563617[/snapback]
I think nachodawking might be able to clarify this one for us. Would 'lacking in intellectual development' be acceptable? biggrin.gif

I think not. The merest suggestion of failure in any of life's pursuits may undoubtedly be construed offensive by some.

I'd imagine the only possible solution to this horrific dilemma is that we stop speaking altogether.

There again, I'm pretty sure that would cause some to go in the huff.

Damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

Anyway, I've just been told (I'm afraid I can't confirm this) that Prince Charles has a friend who is not white skinned and whom he allegedly refers to as 'Sooty'.
mortonjag 2009-01-13 15:57:46
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 13 2009, 03:45 PM) [snapback]563627[/snapback]
Now Billy Holliday doing "Strange Fruit" sends shivers down the spine.
The point about the reversal of roles, funny that, walking to school this morning and listenting to "times they are" and "Lonesome death" that was my main thought, it wasn't that the sentence on Zantzinger was right or wrong, it was that justice in America at that time was skewed by colour and money.

"In the courtroom of honor, the judge pounded his gavel
To show that all's equal and that the courts are on the level
And that the strings in the books ain't pulled and persuaded
And that even the nobles get properly handled
Once that the cops have chased after and caught 'em
And that ladder of law has no top and no bottom"

Given that both are correct, it could be argued that Mr Z has been abused by those in pursuit of all that's good.

Are there not more clear cut cases about which errant guitar wielding hobos might have waxed lyrical, whipping Mr Edwards into an absolutely frenzied lather of righteous indignation? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-13 16:30:31
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 13 2009, 04:12 PM) [snapback]563634[/snapback]
Susie every day of the week.

laugh.gifI can teach her to be smart.

I can't teach the other one to grow tits or wolf down on Aunt Peg just as easy.

TonInDublin

The best laid schemes o' mice and men eh-and can you also teach her to be loving and loyal?
mortonjag 2009-01-13 16:35:14
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 13 2009, 04:13 PM) [snapback]563635[/snapback]
Ry Cooder. He's a cool cat.

TY!

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 13 2009, 04:15 PM) [snapback]563636[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif Good one Mentaljag. You'll have me foaming at the mouth next.

Don't be daft-foaming at the mouth takes years of practice! shutup.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-13 16:40:42
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jan 13 2009, 04:20 PM) [snapback]563638[/snapback]
Anyone listened to this?

It's a reggae cover of Pink Floyd's "Dark Side Of The Moon"; it's been out for ages but I only recently got a listen to it and it was a lot better than I expected. Worth a listen for more than just novelty value.

This?
mortonjag 2009-01-13 16:49:46
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 13 2009, 04:41 PM) [snapback]563644[/snapback]
Conversely, there isn't much in this thread that would make me embarrassed about being Scottish or a Ton fan. And there are plenty of 'politically correct' people who wouldn't be caught out using 'inappropriate language' who can be deeply racist, sexist, sectarian, ageist, 'you fecking name the prejudice' at heart. You know the types I'm sure, the ones that don't really want to live next door to someone from 'The BME Community', only they wouldn't dream of admitting it.

On the money Mr Edwards. Jesus (remember him?) described such as 'whited sepulchres'.

'Holy Willies' is perhaps the term in modern parlance, though I have to say that in my experience that's a tautology.

I can't say I've read a single post on this thread which makes me ashamed to be Scottish or a Ton fan.

Scotia's was the most aggressive, but for me it was also thought provoking and had a certain ring of truth.

My philosophy-do as you would be done by. That's my philosophy.

Day to day living sometimes renders that impossible! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-13 17:09:51
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 13 2009, 05:04 PM) [snapback]563655[/snapback]
Where are yer baws Mr E, name names, who are you referring to?

Those pricks?
mortonjag 2009-01-13 17:12:22
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 13 2009, 05:07 PM) [snapback]563659[/snapback]
One of my clients, who is from Tunisia (or possibly Algeria) came in to see me this afternoon and greeted me with "Hello, you're looking a bit pale". Having read this thread, I now realise that i was oblivious to the fact that he was obviously racially abusing me, and so I had better report him to the Race Relations people and get a few thousand in compensation. Or possibly he just thought that I was looking a bit pale.

I presume he wasn't looking pale.
mortonjag 2009-01-13 17:26:44
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 13 2009, 05:18 PM) [snapback]563670[/snapback]
serious question Doctor : Do you think there is any additional risks associated with a pregnancy between people from different continents, eg Scotland and Thailand ?

In general terms-NO!
mortonjag 2009-01-13 18:04:20
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 13 2009, 05:59 PM) [snapback]563694[/snapback]
Almost an anagram of Edwards...... laugh.gif

Mr Edwards may or may not have baws but his name suggests he wears DD!

I suspect that'll only be when he's in his cups.
mortonjag 2009-01-13 18:08:16
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 13 2009, 05:32 PM) [snapback]563681[/snapback]
Yeah, that's horrible.

Similarly I find the expression 'on the bones' to describe the act of making love abhorrent. angel.gif

Each to his own CHC-many a necrophiliac might describe a liaison with an old flame as being 'on the bones'.
mortonjag 2009-01-13 18:11:48
QUOTE(togib @ Jan 13 2009, 06:05 PM) [snapback]563700[/snapback]
prince charles is sha gging "sweep " not sooty, or should that be sheep

Poor mouton would turn over in his gravy at the thought.
mortonjag 2009-01-13 18:18:07
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 13 2009, 06:00 PM) [snapback]563696[/snapback]
aye mate, that works out at £12.50 an hour, that not bad money for doing nothing.
''Applicants must be aged 18 or over. To apply for this vacancy you must contact your local Jobcentre Plus Office to arrange an interview with an adviser. Therefore, please ignore the ‘How to apply’ section. No experience required. You will be modelling for an art class, which is taken by a fully qualified art teacher. Duties require the successful applicant to be nude. This is a temporary position for 6 weeks''

Aye very good-you'd freeze to death after the first week! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-13 18:22:30
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 13 2009, 06:16 PM) [snapback]563707[/snapback]
Au contraire.
I should imagine that a Jobby frozen in liquid nitrogen could be polished. rolleyes.gif

laugh.gif

There are much simpler ways of putting a shine on ones shyte.
mortonjag 2009-01-13 18:33:27
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 13 2009, 06:31 PM) [snapback]563718[/snapback]
A high fibre diet produces lovely moist shiney stools, pre-polished if you will.

Indeed, and cooking in olive oil helps too!
mortonjag 2009-01-13 18:36:00
QUOTE(togib @ Jan 13 2009, 06:28 PM) [snapback]563716[/snapback]
lol hope he wasnt the black sheep of the family happy.gif

Not at all-we roasted him very gently-no question of overcooking.
mortonjag 2009-01-13 18:48:26 Just over an hour till David v Goliath!


FTOF! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-13 19:19:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 13 2009, 07:11 PM) [snapback]563731[/snapback]
laugh.gif I wouldn't be surprised if you've got a burberry raincoat. Why not get a cap to match?

Burberry condoms meticulously dry cleaned after every use.
mortonjag 2009-01-13 19:40:37
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jan 13 2009, 07:34 PM) [snapback]563745[/snapback]
Taken a Saints win on one coupon and a Killie/St's double on two draws on another.

COYS!

Good luck-what are the odds against Saints?
mortonjag 2009-01-13 19:57:34 Not long now-I'm actually getting quite excited 'cos this could be the Ton!


C'mon the First Division. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-13 22:04:27 Back on topic-I thought St J were great and rangers were sh*te-nae luck! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-13 22:07:33 GENTLEMEN! blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-13 22:14:00
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 13 2009, 08:55 PM) [snapback]563784[/snapback]
I've already told you, Carstairs is not the same type of hospital.

Mentaljag can confirm that Carstairs is a hospital in which DD has never been a patient.
mortonjag 2009-01-13 22:18:10 Mr Edwards and Trois Maisons-two gentlemen who wouldn't dream of causing offence-in gentle joust.

Who will win?

Trois Maisons for me! thumbup2.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-13 22:23:43 Diana Ross has surely to be mentioned. Several crackers including 'Where did our love go' and 'Baby Love'.
mortonjag 2009-01-13 22:30:28
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 13 2009, 10:26 PM) [snapback]563840[/snapback]
You mean the Supremes. (Sorry, but I had to get a word in for Mary Wilson)

laugh.gif

I meant Diana ERNESTine Ross and her supremes. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-13 22:33:33
QUOTE(Marshall_2oo7 @ Jan 13 2009, 09:29 PM) [snapback]563800[/snapback]
What a poofy annoying tosspot.

blink.gif

WHY? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-14 10:52:18
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 14 2009, 12:14 AM) [snapback]563868[/snapback]
FWIW you can see quite clearly from the results that we haven't missed him. We've changed 'style' perhaps, but we've a better overall shape IMO. sleep.gif

An utterly illogical statement if ever I saw one!

I could see quite clearly last night that Midge is EXACTLY the type of player we are desperately missing in midfield.

A better overall shape? I'd LOVE to know what you mean by that. I'm still struggling to see any deliberate shape when it comes to creative football! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-14 11:05:10 This is a fun game, but let's face it, it's all very hypothetical.

Rather than seeking 'Morton standard' I'd really like to know where our modern posters believe we should be in Scottish Football. The oldies know what's been achieved before, but many of our younger posters appear pretty unambitious.

I've never doubted that we have the potential to be a regular SPL 'top six'.
mortonjag 2009-01-14 11:12:06
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 14 2009, 08:00 AM) [snapback]563904[/snapback]
laugh.gif

You know MJ on very rare occasions, and I mean very rare, you can actually be quite funny. tongue.gif

And I like Mr E, he one of the good guys. smile.gif

He is indeed, and you can be one of the good guys too. PM mortonjag and he'll give you details of how to deposit £10,000 in the monkey's account. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-14 11:24:19
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 14 2009, 10:11 AM) [snapback]563938[/snapback]
Oh, the irony.

TonInDublin

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

My favourite radio commentator is Scott Davie-I just can't get over his accent.

'The Polish goalkeeper rolls up his shorts to reveal a mole near his hole'! wub.gif

mortonjag 2009-01-14 11:27:29
QUOTE(Thrax @ Jan 14 2009, 10:19 AM) [snapback]563941[/snapback]
mystery solved...

what about this one?

What was the best thing before sliced bread? mellow.gif

Giving the mother in law a toaster for Christmas.
mortonjag 2009-01-14 11:34:56
QUOTE(se65an @ Jan 14 2009, 11:02 AM) [snapback]563967[/snapback]
That is why paper rounds were invented. Friday night carryout, oh and the mints for coming hame and swearing blind you had a dodgy tummy and best you stay in your room.

Forget your Xbox's we had the Amstrad 464, pity the internet was not developed for a few years later

laugh.gif

When I was at school there were hardly any fat kids, and by that I don't mean the blobs of triglyceride you see waddling about takeaways nowadays. Any child who was even tubby was perceived as fair game for 'Fatty' or whatever.

Modern society is a bloody joke-our children are universally victims of materialism and greed-dictated to by the media and carefully cultivated peer pressure.

It's very sad.
mortonjag 2009-01-14 11:45:03
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 14 2009, 11:15 AM) [snapback]563988[/snapback]
I thought a monkey was £500? rolleyes.gif

Pedigree monkeys can be expensive but contact 'Monkey Rescue' and they'll let you have an abandoned or maltreated simian for nothing, if you're considered a suitable applicant.
mortonjag 2009-01-14 11:47:52
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 14 2009, 11:38 AM) [snapback]564003[/snapback]
Drinking blood gives you good hair.

...and black tarry jobbies.
mortonjag 2009-01-14 11:54:11
QUOTE(se65an @ Jan 14 2009, 11:49 AM) [snapback]564006[/snapback]
Don't be a wimp, just go for it, take some tweezers with you and Donga will run for miles rolleyes.gif

I've heard he's VERY protective of his K**B too!
mortonjag 2009-01-14 11:58:36
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 14 2009, 07:08 AM) [snapback]563901[/snapback]
I wouldnt choose either of them as my lifetime partner as there is no way i could love either of them, and there aint no way im spending my life with a female.

Zing!


I understand!
mortonjag 2009-01-14 12:04:12
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 14 2009, 11:59 AM) [snapback]564009[/snapback]

Maybe they should have 'stuck in' at school! bag.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-14 12:34:53
QUOTE(togib @ Jan 14 2009, 12:29 PM) [snapback]564020[/snapback]
dont you mean skool? happy.gif

laugh.gif

Indeed and then they could have gone on to kollig University to keep them off the dole for a full six or seven years in total! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-14 12:38:32
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 14 2009, 12:32 PM) [snapback]564021[/snapback]
I could go down the Jag route of swapping homosexual innuendos and fake tales of sexual encounters but to be honest, if I'm going to groom someone online then they definitely won't be from the Port.

There's nothing wrong with PORT POUFFES.
mortonjag 2009-01-14 12:43:50
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 14 2009, 12:34 PM) [snapback]564023[/snapback]
Unlikely. The relatively high temperature of the polish would likely crack or even shatter the turd.
I'll give you that though.

Electroplated nickel silver turds (known as EPNST) may well cecome a collectors item in fifty or sixty years and feature on The Antiques Roadshow along with the usual turds.
mortonjag 2009-01-14 12:47:31
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 14 2009, 12:33 PM) [snapback]564022[/snapback]
I thought we just needed wingers? Why would we need him then?
It's also worth pointing out that among other signings Millar's decision to stick with the pre-contract and not take our inflated pay offer was pivotal in giving Shimmin a contract - and where would we be now with Millar in a midfield and Harding at the back?

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Pull the other one sunshine-it plays Silent Night in Urdu.
mortonjag 2009-01-14 13:06:34 When I was four, we lived in a top flat tenement in Argyle St. in the Port-six of us in a room and kitchen! There was Argyle St., then Boundary St., and then-aye you guessed-Greenock.

Lithgow's Kingston Yard was across the main road, and the railway sidings were at the top of our street.

I can still remember seeing big Clydesdale horses pulling flat bogies laden with plate steel from the railway down to the yards. The traffic on the main road had to give way to them.

Another thing that's imprinted in my mind is the yards 'coming out'. Everybody seemed to be in a huge rush to get a bus or a decent spot in the pub-it was pandemonium.

I also remember when we got electric lights put in. Everybody in the close was excited.

I enjoyed those days-it was quite good being a wee boy in the Port in the late forties!
mortonjag 2009-01-14 13:17:58
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 14 2009, 01:12 PM) [snapback]564034[/snapback]
One of my earliest memories is of being chased down Ayr Lane by a pissed off dog (that throughout my childhood was to become my first real enemy) and my granda cheering me up after it with a bit of toast (eat the crusts son, they're good for ye) and a bowl of pineapple chunks. Both him and my dad had belting Ford Cortinas at that time too.

Memories!

Everybody dreamed of one of those!

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mortonjag 2009-01-14 13:21:23
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 14 2009, 01:17 PM) [snapback]564037[/snapback]
Aw shucks, isn't it just rinky dinky doo that we're all pals. wub.gif Feck off the two of youse. laugh.gif

yese
mortonjag 2009-01-14 13:24:24
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 14 2009, 01:16 PM) [snapback]564036[/snapback]
I once won a cake with blue icing in a raffle and the following day I produced a blue jobby.

I think she must have went a bit overboard with the colouring.

A good description of certain Ton supporters after a defeat!
mortonjag 2009-01-14 13:27:44
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 14 2009, 01:23 PM) [snapback]564040[/snapback]
Youse aye, yese naw.

laugh.gif

Yese is becoming the accepted term up here Mr Edwards. Youse is passe and rather middle class.
mortonjag 2009-01-14 13:41:28
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 14 2009, 01:29 PM) [snapback]564043[/snapback]
Seeing as how we're all pals I won't argue.

Yese are seeing sense at last so yese ur.
mortonjag 2009-01-14 13:49:48
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 14 2009, 01:46 PM) [snapback]564053[/snapback]
Well that explains why mines is as bad as it is sad.gif

It must have been a pure mess before you started imbibing.
mortonjag 2009-01-14 13:56:53
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 14 2009, 01:49 PM) [snapback]564056[/snapback]
Come on, don't be such snobs. Some people simply aren't academic. I have sympathy for these guys and those in a similar situation, if they genuinely do want to work.
On the plus side, though, he can certainly still afford pies.

Hey Dong-in my experience the most wealthy and successful folk often left school with little or no qualifications. I was being a wee bit tongue in cheek-far too many pursue academic qualifications and END UP on the dole.

I don't believe for one minute, however, that those two can't get a job. They can't get a job that suits them, and that's an entirely different matter.

No point in slogging your guts out all week for a mere tenner more than you get 'aff the social'.

No point, that is, unless you have some self respect.
mortonjag 2009-01-14 14:03:35 Have you killed NewTON?
mortonjag 2009-01-14 15:19:55
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jan 14 2009, 03:07 PM) [snapback]564075[/snapback]
Rules FFS...pictures! ph34r.gif



Susie:
[attachment=5019:th_its_n...his_sexy.gif]
Jane:
[attachment=5020:th_plainjane.jpg]


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mortonjag 2009-01-14 18:58:12

QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jan 14 2009, 05:24 PM) [snapback]564096[/snapback]
I can't believe I am biting here, but it will be a long time and a ridiculous amount of money before we are top six. Celtic, Rangers, Hearts, Hibs, Aberdeen and Dundee United are all considerably bigger clubs than us and over the past few years have mingled in the top six with no sign of anyone nudging their way in consistently. However, were we by some minor miracle able to get promoted and play out of our skins one season then top six is not beyond us. To say we have the potential to be a "regular top six" club is laughable. These delusions of grandeur are all part of your condition though.

...and I can't believe you thought there was anything to bite on. Delusions of grandeur are part of my condition indeed! Tell me that wasn't meant to be offensive, and I won't be cheeky back! dry.gif

Folk with your mentality thoroughly sicken me, particularly when they can't even get facts right. Dundee United are FAR from being the big club you present and have relied hugely on benevolence in recent years.

Here's what I wrote-just in case you've forgotten already:

I've never doubted that we have the potential to be a regular SPL 'top six'.

The clues are in the words 'potential' and 'regular'.

Folk with your condition, however, clearly have difficulty in understanding plain English.

Hopefully Mr Donald has the same kind of ambition as Eddie Thomson had. He's certainly got a few bob more. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif







mortonjag 2009-01-14 19:03:33
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Jan 14 2009, 05:55 PM) [snapback]564106[/snapback]
I clicked "yes" and "no" - it let me.

Irons is the lesser of 3 evils tbh - I would have had those 3 in the same situation as McInally - not within a mile of Scapa, except as an opposition manager.

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mortonjag 2009-01-14 19:08:33
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 14 2009, 04:35 PM) [snapback]564087[/snapback]
Well, the Jag's already scuttled the backside so I'm not really interested anymore.

Just heated up the chamber to make it more comfy Boozie!
mortonjag 2009-01-14 19:12:35
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 14 2009, 04:10 PM) [snapback]564080[/snapback]
No no, my granda's was one of these:

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mortonjag 2009-01-14 19:15:38
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 14 2009, 04:11 PM) [snapback]564081[/snapback]
Cooked or raw?

Per rectum. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-14 19:21:43 I didn't realise your wife's family were business people. I'm sure McArthur will be heavily impressed.
for your sartorial delection
mortonjag 2009-01-14 19:27:43
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 14 2009, 06:33 PM) [snapback]564119[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-01-14 19:32:01
QUOTE(Zutons @ Jan 14 2009, 07:22 PM) [snapback]564148[/snapback]
Yes

Just as well we're away this Saturday then. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-14 19:34:28
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 14 2009, 07:30 PM) [snapback]564161[/snapback]
Davie McArthur was born in a smartly cut suit.

...I thought it was a stable.
mortonjag 2009-01-14 19:44:33
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 14 2009, 07:10 PM) [snapback]564135[/snapback]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7828121.stm

What educational or medical evidence have for Mr Stringer have in coming to this conclusion .

He seems to be highlighting the cost financially in helping sufferers rather that the cost of those people being excluded from another form of communication.

Labour MP ?? hope he gets punted at the next election .

Disgusted

GRAHAM STRINGER

the daft c*nt!
mortonjag 2009-01-14 20:16:26
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jan 14 2009, 08:07 PM) [snapback]564190[/snapback]
It was said tongue in cheek, though when you hear monkeys talking to you I sometimes wonder...

And I didn't present Dundee Utd as a "big" club. just a bigger club than us which I'd expect most people would agree with.

Anyway to your more salient second point.

'Potential' - Of course we have the potential to be a top six club. We have more potential than Elgin and less potential than Motherwell. That potential would increase should someone (and let's not turn this into another tiresome thread about the chairman) pump a few million pounds into the club (purely on the playing side) for a couple of years and then hope that supporters turn up in their droves to sustain the wage bill. A lot of variables to consider there, not even acknowledging the fact that the last time we were in the top division was a couple of decades ago. Every team has potential, it just depends how much potential and right now I reckon there are at least 5 or 6 teams who are well ahead of us in terms of realising that potential. To add to our potential would require a lot of money and in case you haven't noticed in your ivory tower, money is a little tight at the moment...globally.

'Regular' - This would suggest to me that you expect us to finish top six most seasons in the SPL if our potential is realised. At the moment, I do not realistically expect that to happen; but I will not mock you for thinking that, I just disagree that even with all the potential in the world, we are only slightly closer to being top six than Stirling Albion.


In essence you're agreeing with me.

Excellent.

C'mon ye TON!
mortonjag 2009-01-14 20:24:24
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jan 14 2009, 08:16 PM) [snapback]564197[/snapback]
It is equally possible that she was beaten up in Aberdeen because she is not a sheep....
(pathetic attempt at humour does not detract from the awfulness of the attack mad.gif )

That is perfectly possible Dave, and of course donkeys and monkeys are abused regularly in Greenock.

On a more serious note it's appalling that she was beaten up because she still had a tiny trace of an English accent. God help those with-say- a full Mancunian twang. They must walk around looking like veritable punchballs. blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-14 20:31:38
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 14 2009, 08:26 PM) [snapback]564211[/snapback]
Zutons, your sub heading is rather offensive.

More stupid than offensive I'd suggest.
mortonjag 2009-01-14 20:43:11
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 14 2009, 08:32 PM) [snapback]564217[/snapback]
I'm onto the tele'

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mortonjag 2009-01-14 20:52:56
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jan 14 2009, 08:34 PM) [snapback]564221[/snapback]
The bit in bold, yes! laugh.gif

Exactly-the bit that mattered! laugh.gif

QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Jan 14 2009, 08:48 PM) [snapback]564234[/snapback]
shimmin goes where ?

From behind? ph34r.gif

also i'd have had keith wright up that list tbh

mortonjag 2009-01-14 20:57:34
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jan 14 2009, 08:54 PM) [snapback]564246[/snapback]
Are you suggesting that the young lady may have provoked an attack? I hope this "Zantzinger" type chap gets put away for a long time.

I'd just give him a right good caning.
mortonjag 2009-01-14 21:05:25
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 14 2009, 08:58 PM) [snapback]564254[/snapback]
I'm suggesting nothing of the sort but true to form one of forums resident nationalist bashers cannot miss an opportunity eh? rolleyes.gif

AH-so that's why the thread was started. I thought that maybe the poor unfortunate woman's plight had pulled at the thread originator's heartstrings! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-14 21:16:21
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 14 2009, 09:07 PM) [snapback]564270[/snapback]
If you really want the Bugle back, the original beast itself is in one of the display cabinets in the Gold Lounge - all you'd need is to blow 40 years of stoor off it and find some ex-BB bugler and you're away.......

on the ride of a lifetime.
mortonjag 2009-01-14 21:36:42
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jan 14 2009, 09:21 PM) [snapback]564288[/snapback]
Unfecking believable.

I can't believe people are more upset about the use of the word Nationalist rather than the attack on the girl. I find it offensive that some are trying to condone actions by a thug who wanted a girl with an English accent to go back to England...

http://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/Article.as...025014?UserKey=

"“I do have a strong English accent with some of the things I say – and he was shouting ‘Go back to England’. He then ran off with another man.â€

Lucy, of Gourdon, south of Stonehaven, who is just 5ft 3in, added: “It all happened so quickly, I was so scared.

“I remember sitting on the ground with blood covering my face and hands.

“My friend’s arm was covered in blood as she tried to help me.â€

Today a Grampian Police spokesman confirmed they were investigating the attack.

He added: “This was a particularly nasty incident which resulted in a young woman sustaining a serious facial injury.It appears to have been totally unprovoked.

Lucy suffered a left fractured cheekbone, two black eyes and two severed nerve endings at the back of her eye. She has stitches on the bridge of her nose.

She said the attack has left her frightened to go out at night."



Oh well, that bastion of erudite and unbiased journalism also claims that:

A senior police officer today slammed the attacker
.,

There's no reference to accompanying comments, presumably to avoid any accusation of racialism, though he was purportedly heard muttering-'I'll sort you, you Scotch Scum'. laugh.gif

mortonjag 2009-01-14 22:01:29
QUOTE(gmfc_boyo @ Jan 14 2009, 09:54 PM) [snapback]564319[/snapback]
Not long ago myself, Doddie and 2 other mates went upto Aberdeen for the Lee Evans gig. Thought we'd make a right good weekend of it. Having a great time in a pub, banter flowin, few drinks, then suddenly we got hounded by another group of guys for having 'Glasgow accents'.

A completely unneccessary flare-up ensued and there was no reasoning with the muppets. We weren't from Aberdeen. Simple as that. The rest of the weekend was filled with stories of complete and utter weirdigans who hail from Aberdeen!

Very, very, VERY strange place...I highly doubt its Scottish nationalism on the rise. Its just a couple of tossers from Aberdeen!

It did, however, make a good story for some pathetic hack with nothing better to write about, and more's the pity that there are folk who'll swallow such crap hook line and sinker. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-14 22:08:41
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 14 2009, 10:04 PM) [snapback]564328[/snapback]
that ties in with stories i've heard about aberdeen. some of the twats up there make it their business to hassle anyone who isn't "aberdeen". for all the west coast of scotland gets a bad press i think you are more likely to get grief on a night out in the east. i recently read a blog on bebo by a hibs casual. it was grim as f***. he was thick as pig s*** and far from subscribing to the "casual code" of fighting with like minded punters he took pride in "taking liberties" with guys on nights out. i went to college with guys from the east coast and they said edinburgh ,aberdeen and dundee were a nightmare for violence.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Why don't you apply for a job as a reporter? dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-14 22:14:42
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 14 2009, 10:05 PM) [snapback]564329[/snapback]
Aye, okay, an ex-Sea Cadet would do too.

Or Mortonjag - he's practiced enough at blowing his own trumpet! laugh.gif

A very subtle pun or just sheer grammatical ignorance? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-14 22:17:19 Is the snow getting quite deep yet?
mortonjag 2009-01-14 22:30:09
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 14 2009, 10:16 PM) [snapback]564343[/snapback]
Don't know what the sub-heading is about blink.gif

But anyway, terrible what happened to the lassie.

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Young woman of Scottish nationality Claymore C*ck! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-14 22:36:23
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 14 2009, 10:18 PM) [snapback]564346[/snapback]
The former. Most definAteley! tongue.gif

Good!

I was thinking they could teach that May Hughes lot how to play the trumpet.

Just a thought.
mortonjag 2009-01-14 22:46:58
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 14 2009, 10:30 PM) [snapback]564360[/snapback]
mortonjag is posting!!!!!! everyone drop what they're doing and listen to him!!!!!!!!!! otherwise he'll kid on he's deid for a couple of weeks laugh.gif

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QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 14 2009, 10:33 PM) [snapback]564362[/snapback]
f***! he even beat me to that. i think he has his old boot of a missus on another pc so they can post every second of everyday.
*disclaimer* mortonjags missus may not be old or a boot. your home is at risk if you don't keep up with mortonjag's pish.

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QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 14 2009, 10:37 PM) [snapback]564366[/snapback]
i honestly don't think i know anyone who has ill feeling towards english or american people. there are a fair smattering of twats in every nation. biggrin.gif



Did you mean 'there is'?

You are clearly VERY self perceptive dear-your signature says it ALL! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-15 07:23:15 This poll is reminiscent of the 'Do you have full confidence in JM' one! smile.gif

Perhaps Mr Irons should be watching his back. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-15 07:27:23
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 14 2009, 11:26 PM) [snapback]564405[/snapback]
aye - Flared LoonPants-Itis and Psychadelic Shirt Syndrome ain't to be recommended....... but seriously, be great to hear the old thing again

Fuditis hotpantia was quite common too.
mortonjag 2009-01-15 07:55:23
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 14 2009, 10:46 PM) [snapback]564375[/snapback]
He's an arse, I've taught very clever weans, A passes at higher in Phys, Chem, and Maths who just can't spell.

We're all different in our abilities.

Of course we are Mr Bam, but don't forget that dyslexia does not simply describe inability to spell, which in many instances (including, I imagine, that of a poster with whom I'm just about to deal) is simply down to laziness and lack of practice! Dyslexia is a discrete clinical condition, which, as you imply, often affects highly intelligent people.

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 14 2009, 11:04 PM) [snapback]564389[/snapback]
Unless you try and post while lacking the ability to spell while near Mortonjag. Then you are just thick

Another snide wee dig in an attempt to propagate the Mortonjag the Arrogant myth, sonny boy? laugh.gif

I don't think I've ever called you or anybody else 'thick' for simply being too lazy to learn how to spell words or use grammar correctly. That does NOT mean that I intend to abandon my tireless endeavour to help you all.

The word in 'bold red' should have been 'to', and the structure of your statement is sorely stilted! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-15 10:46:26
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 15 2009, 08:21 AM) [snapback]564455[/snapback]
You know fine well you will discredit a persons whole argument if you can point out one tiny little flaw in their spelling and grammar.

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Now you're being silly. I'm not a ThornTON you know, and I never correct people who clearly haven't the wit or education to do better.

People like yourself who regularly try to discredit poor old Jaggy deserve everything they get and more.

Let sleeping dogs lie!

BTW you missed the apostrophe in 'person's'! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-15 10:49:30
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Jan 14 2009, 11:15 PM) [snapback]564395[/snapback]
That's your footprints walking up and down the street - you never actually went into the Gym did you!??

I thought I recognised Blythswood square.
mortonjag 2009-01-15 11:02:28
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 15 2009, 12:26 AM) [snapback]564417[/snapback]
ah! the old "i'm talking s***e so i'll pull someone up on their grammar (having checked online to see if i'm right) " routine. laugh.gif

you're a silly wee man mj. and btw on another post you said you waved at bryan every week yeah? well i'm in the same section so come down and say hello eh? biggrin.gif

Why would a man of my educational stature have to 'check grammar on line'? You continue to throw out random insults for no other reason than your insane jealousy of this hugely accomplished man. laugh.gif

I know very well where you inhabit Scapa (even though you recently claimed not to be a stand man)! The line drawing in your photie is a good likeness. If I thought for one minute your invitation was friendly I might just deign to give you the huge privilege of shaking my hand. wub.gif

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 15 2009, 12:50 AM) [snapback]564428[/snapback]
Have youse two been eating the same cake?

OR-have yese been eating the same cake! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-15 11:13:43
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 15 2009, 07:55 AM) [snapback]564451[/snapback]
If not the Hal Stewart Stand or the Douglas Rae Stand, then has to be the Wee Dublin Stand, to remind us of it's historic significance.

I suspect Mr Rae would like his name to be incorporated in some way.
mortonjag 2009-01-15 11:20:08
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 15 2009, 07:48 AM) [snapback]564450[/snapback]
I don't really think so MJ. DI was my third choice and I just thought that while we critisise him, and Douglas Rae for appointing him, it might be worth considering with hindsight if it was the right choice. The poll results so far suggest it was.

It may well have been the correct choice. I was merely reflecting that almost 80% 'had complete confidence' in JM until a mere few weeks before the 'TTG Jim' campaign was in full flight.

I wish we had appointed an experienced manager LONG AGO. That is where the Chairman made a fundamental mistake in my opinion-a mistake which has cost him dearly in almost every sense.
mortonjag 2009-01-15 11:28:32
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 15 2009, 11:02 AM) [snapback]564492[/snapback]
if I didn't know better I would tar all teachers with the same brush I tarred the yanks with. rolleyes.gif

edit to add - You of all people should know my dislike for Yanks is not racism, I see them as equal and don't not want to deny them any of their rights. I have a strong dislike for the stereotypical American, that's not racist.

You be telling me next it's not acceptable to dislike sprouts. unsure.gif

CHC will be upset!

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 15 2009, 11:08 AM) [snapback]564495[/snapback]
I just wonder how you're 'hugely accomplished'. Are you fantasising about a particular dimension? laugh.gif

Aye! It's shrinking at an alarming rate if the truth be told-ten years ago I could break coal with it! sad.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-15 11:35:21
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jan 15 2009, 11:05 AM) [snapback]564493[/snapback]
Quality evidence there. Official statistics from other countries are clearly free of manipulation, just like ours.

Does anybody know what his underlying agenda is? Politicians are innate liars, but flying in the face of reality, AND abundant clinical evidence for the existence of the condition, he surely seems to have lost his reason.
mortonjag 2009-01-15 11:41:27 The Monkey bids you many happy returns of the day!
mortonjag 2009-01-15 12:02:02
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 15 2009, 11:58 AM) [snapback]564513[/snapback]
I think it's generally accepted, and fairly obvious, that the SNP are treated less than fairly by the media - without exception, newspapers push a unionist agenda to a greater or lesser degree. the Scotsman is one of the worst but the Herald runs it close. the Sun is beyond the pale and the Record is also laughably biased. We may have a free press (allegedly) but that is not the same thing as a fair press.

Labour get a really easy time from the media in Scotland. Watch Glenn Campbell interviewing on Newsnight Scotland for an example. Right up there with Jim "So why are you so good, Brain Laudrup" White for fawning sycophancy and failing to ask the obvious killer question.

That could be construed as paranoia.
mortonjag 2009-01-15 12:06:06
QUOTE(Roger Mellie @ Jan 15 2009, 11:48 AM) [snapback]564510[/snapback]
Looking to rent my flat out (2 bedrooms, Garden Flat), £450 a calender month excluding council tax which is £140 a month.

On Eldon Street, next to Esplanade. (Can be accessed from Splash also)

Flat is furnished so no work needing done, be a 6 month rolling lease but basically all going well the person can stay as long as they want.

If anyones interested pm me or reply here.

That sounds like a lovely flat in a superb situation. The price is very reasonable too. I wish I could move back to Inverclyde right now but family commitments prohibit. I presume there is no problem with parking.
mortonjag 2009-01-15 12:20:52
QUOTE(Roger Mellie @ Jan 15 2009, 12:15 PM) [snapback]564519[/snapback]
No problem with the parking Mortonjag, i'm buying a new house but no much point putting flat up for sale as nothing is really selling.

Trying to keep the rent at a reasonable level, just want to cover my costs, not in it for making money from it.

Going to have fridge, washing machine, bed etc left in it. Might even through in a snidy telly to get the tenant started

Sounds like a wise decision the way things are. As I say, a similar flat in a nice area of Glasgow would probably cost at least £200 p.c.m. more.

Good luck.
mortonjag 2009-01-15 12:31:29
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jan 15 2009, 12:17 PM) [snapback]564521[/snapback]
Of course. blink.gif If you don't know any Americans/Scots/Irish/Eskimos you just default to the stereotype - so they must exist. I always find the stereotype to be a useful guide when dealing with other nationalities, don't you ?

Stereotypes are helpful as a starting point, and as you suggest, they are by definition, a useful guide.

I'm talking about stereotypes in general. We all use them in every walk of life every day-often sub consciously.

For example, if somebody tells you that your next customer/client/patient/visitor or whatever is a popular 'stand up' laugh.gif comedian, you don't expect some decrepit and sour faced octogenarian with double elbow crutches and a stutter-but ALWAYS expect the unexpected!
mortonjag 2009-01-15 12:40:03
QUOTE(ccc @ Jan 15 2009, 12:14 PM) [snapback]564518[/snapback]
http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/articles/2/32753

Interesting to see more compliments from someone outwith the club regarding Peter, 2nd last paragraph of the article.

Very true.

I also like this:

He said: “The problem you have got is that, if you don’t remain full time, you will end up being relegated. Clubs like Morton, Dundee, St Johnstone and Dunfermline have a fan base and ambition, and should be playing at a higher level.
mortonjag 2009-01-15 12:47:18
QUOTE(suda @ Jan 15 2009, 12:38 PM) [snapback]564527[/snapback]
Ah hindsight is a wonderfull thing, how is Allan Moore getting on these days? laugh.gif

Hindsight is variably wonderful. Those of us who always wanted an experienced man at Cappielow can only look back with regret.

Allan Moore has a record of getting a lot from very little. With the available resources at Morton it's anybody's guess what he might or might not have achieved. I certainly don't think he'd have had to deal with a players' revolution a quarter way into the season! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-15 12:51:10
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 15 2009, 12:38 PM) [snapback]564528[/snapback]
Just received a wee txt from Bryan, he tells me he is getting home tomorrow, still needs a lot of rest but is feeling better.

Happy days.

That's good news indeed. I miss his charming remonstrations! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-15 13:03:03
QUOTE(irnbru @ Jan 15 2009, 12:47 PM) [snapback]564530[/snapback]
Thats what I was asking about - I wasn't too clear on your reasoning behind that arguement but can see where your coming from now. However, taking a percentage of a 5mil population against a 15000 person membership cant be construed as like for like. The difference between 8 and 13% of SNPs membership is only 400ish so this margin can't be taken as reflective of a population.

Its arguements like this that put me off SNP - spin seems to be ok for them and not for others. This and the constand paranoia shown here saying they are treated less fairly 'without exeption' typifies the negative campaign they seem to run. There is no way that they are treated any less fairly than the Torys for example. Not that I support them in any way but this is the obvious example of a party being treated in a worse light than SNP.

If they and most of their supporters concentrated on being positve rather than showing a constant self awareness I'm sure they would win a few more votes - possibly including myself .

I concur.

I've never been unhappy with the concept of an independent Scotland as part of Europe. I am, however, unimpressed by the current custodians of our future, led as they are by a flamboyant and self indulgent buffoon who cow tows to benevolent anybodies, while pathologically pandering to those who wallow in anti-English paranoia, eschewing decency and morality in the process..
mortonjag 2009-01-15 13:13:01
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Jan 15 2009, 12:49 PM) [snapback]564532[/snapback]
Look back with regret ? To escaping relegation and our slow but sure improvement ?

I can see what regrets you have.

I am looking at the bigger picture from the day Rae became boss. Irons is inexperienced. He's done reasonably well, but has made many mistakes.

QUOTE(suda @ Jan 15 2009, 12:51 PM) [snapback]564534[/snapback]
I think what you meant to say was mid table mediocrity in the 2nd division which is full of managers trying to get a lot from very little.

I ALWAYS say what I mean to say, but feel free to think whatever you wish-that's your prerogative. Just avoid the common trap of attacking me personally because you don't like what I say! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-15 13:25:13
QUOTE(suda @ Jan 15 2009, 01:18 PM) [snapback]564542[/snapback]
I'm not attacking you merely pointing out that the man you championed for the job may not of been the right choice after all and in that respect you may of been, whisper it - wrong. Not like you to play the victim card rolleyes.gif

Nor did I suggest you were-I merely asked that you don't! laugh.gif

I have NEVER 'championed' anybody for the job. I acknowledged Moore's experience and well publicised achievements at a time when his resources compared to ours were paltry. I still believe he could do a better job as a full time manager here than anybody Mr Rae has chosen so far.
mortonjag 2009-01-15 13:35:19
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 15 2009, 12:58 PM) [snapback]564536[/snapback]
Can you tell me if there is any dealers in the immediate vicinity (I don't want to step on anyone toes), I'm looking to expand my business empire and the location sounds perfect.

ecstasy
mortonjag 2009-01-15 13:51:56
QUOTE(suda @ Jan 15 2009, 01:38 PM) [snapback]564551[/snapback]
Why would you ask me not to do something that I have never done? Very Strange.

Ok so you never championed his cause just consistently and repeatedly said you thought that Moore should be made boss, I would call that speaking in support of his cause.

And I completely disagree that he would have progressed us any futher than Irons although neither of us can prove our opinions. However this season looks at the moment like another year of progress in terms of league positioning.

People are often advised not to do things even when they might not have contemplated them. Prophylaxis is the term in medicine for example, and everybody's been advised not to drink and drive! smile.gif

I never on any occasion 'said I thought Moore should be made boss'. Every time the topic arose, I suggested that he would be a suitable candidate. That is quite different..

So far as this season is concerned it's maybe best to take one game at a time. It has been suggested that DI acknowledges that he 'f*cked up' earlier on. At the moment we're doing better even if the football is abysmal as a spectacle, and don't forget either that mortonjag has consistently predicted we'll finish fifth.
mortonjag 2009-01-15 13:59:53
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 15 2009, 01:37 PM) [snapback]564550[/snapback]
Spin? FFS, there's no spin in that. i'm just saying that there appears to be a higher preponderance towards SNP membership amongst english people living in Scotland than amongst native Scots. I'm not saying there might not be some statistical rules about sample size that mean the possible errors in the figures make a difference but merely pointing out an apparent variation.

As for the press bias, when did a newspaper ever have a picture of a noose on its front page on election day saying "Vote Labour (or Tory or libDem) and you put scotland's head in a noose"? I would love their to be a newspaper that was even moderately neutral towards the SNP and in particular towards independence, but there are none (I'll partly exempt the Sunday Herald which does at times show a degree of balance). I know that it's because the owners dictate editorial policy, but the bias is still there and palpably there. Ridiculous accusations of paranoia just mean you are ignoring the issue. I'm not paranoid in the slightest; I am just aware that the establishment doesn't want to allow Scottish independence. Tell you what: vote SNP at the next general election, get an overall majority of SNP MPs within Scotland (that means 30) and then we can declare independence. See if the establishment accepts that without some dirty tricks.

Stereotypical comment from paranoid patient! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 15 2009, 01:53 PM) [snapback]564555[/snapback]
Aye. Like the poor souls who trusted a stereotypical caring GP and they got Dr Shipman instead. laugh.gif


Well Mr Edwards, his name was Shipman. In terms of stereotypes due care should have been applied before registering! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-15 14:05:49
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Jan 15 2009, 01:54 PM) [snapback]564556[/snapback]
should we not have a poll on this subject and then submit the results to the club?

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mortonjag 2009-01-15 14:35:34 It's a wee bit depressing to see those line ups.

The problem for older posters is that-as was stated at the outset-nothing in recent years has really matched up to the quality we had in the Hal Stewart/Benny Rooney years, and I guess that's another reason why the oldies get a bit upset at apparent lack of ambition to get into the top flight.

It's so easy to make excuses, but on a level playing field unsure.gif Morton FC should still be upsides clubs like Motherwell, Falkirk, and Killie-oh AND the MIDDEN! mad.gif

For me THAT is the standard we should at least be aiming for. We're into the eighth year of Douglas Rae's tenure, and it's true that we appear to be making some progress, but for those of us of advancing years, it's hard to accept that the SPL may still be five years or more away.

That's the main reason why I'd like Alistair Donald to give us a wee hint about his intentions instead of constantly making politically correct noises about the present incumbent at Cappielow.

mortonjag 2009-01-15 14:43:28
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Jan 15 2009, 02:29 PM) [snapback]564567[/snapback]
Whilst that is only a small cross section of the support I reckon that would still be result even if 800 people voted

Do you think that majority opinion on this massage board reflects the general feelings of Morton fans as a whole?
mortonjag 2009-01-15 14:51:41
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 15 2009, 02:24 PM) [snapback]564565[/snapback]
You're right enough, the name should've been a hint. This guy's name is White:
[attachment=5027:desmond_white.jpg]

I see he was for the high jump too.
mortonjag 2009-01-15 15:58:02
QUOTE(.:BrIDo:. @ Jan 15 2009, 02:50 PM) [snapback]564576[/snapback]
That's a good point.

In that case, you'd have to either assume that it's a genetic thing and the odds of a person being dyslexic in other parts of the world are much less than the odds here.

Either that, or as someone has said, they're lying.

There is abundant evidence-here's just one quote from a journal:

It is now well established that there is an important genetic component in Dyslexia. There appear to
be several distinct genes that are involved in predisposing a person to this disorder, but as yet none
has been identified. Researchers must identify which genes are responsible for Dyslexia, and what
mechanisms are involved in producing the disorder
mortonjag 2009-01-15 16:00:23
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Jan 15 2009, 03:21 PM) [snapback]564584[/snapback]
Are you referring to me, old man. laugh.gif

The monkey concurs! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-15 16:05:05
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 15 2009, 03:55 PM) [snapback]564592[/snapback]
On your first paragraph: FFS, it really is hard having a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent. The figures I mentioned illustate my point clearly. That you are unable to comprehend that is hardly my fault. I'm not putting any spin on it at all.

You must be pretty naive or obtuse if you don't acknowledge the level of bias in the media. It's got nothing to do with paranoia and everything to do with our media being owned by or controlled by unionists. Ask Murray Ritchie how easy it is to get any anti-unionism articles published. if alex Salmond could walk on water, the Scotsman would head their report: "Salmond can't swim". That's spin.

I see realism is beginning to kick in.
mortonjag 2009-01-15 16:27:00
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 15 2009, 04:22 PM) [snapback]564606[/snapback]
Jeeso, this thread still going

AYE-I'm hoping that the victim of the so called racially motivated crime is getting better by the minute.
mortonjag 2009-01-15 16:29:29
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 15 2009, 04:27 PM) [snapback]564611[/snapback]
I don't know their names but I heard they were French.

Pierre and Jacques perhaps!
mortonjag 2009-01-15 17:12:59
QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Jan 15 2009, 04:36 PM) [snapback]564619[/snapback]
lets have a stab

i'll guess a reserve team player from rangers and a
english conference side ... maybe league 2

AH!

Claude Bols and Jacques Titin.
mortonjag 2009-01-15 17:17:58 I DO hope the doctors have been kind and attentive. mellow.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-15 17:23:12
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 15 2009, 04:34 PM) [snapback]564617[/snapback]
Many a brown (wasn't sure If I was allowed to used that adjective) trout caught on this old rod my southern friend. unsure.gif

It's best just to say trout-you never know who might be offended.

QUOTE(Loveless @ Jan 15 2009, 05:01 PM) [snapback]564627[/snapback]
Interesting.

I was more offended by the fact that a girl in Scotland was assaulted for being English.

unsure.gif

You were there TOO! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-15 17:39:42
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Jan 15 2009, 05:30 PM) [snapback]564651[/snapback]
well it was Jona Ton's blog... but yeah I think so

So do I!

I've always reckoned that unofficial massage boards give a fair indication of of opinion among the fans as a whole. That, of course, has frequently been disputed by those who are not unofficial! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-15 17:42:25
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Jan 15 2009, 05:37 PM) [snapback]564659[/snapback]
It's £18 for adults and £10 for students i think....

I seem to remember a Bovril costing £1.50.

Christ knows how much they charge for a Scotch Egg.
mortonjag 2009-01-15 17:48:45
QUOTE(Loveless @ Jan 15 2009, 05:25 PM) [snapback]564649[/snapback]
True I wasn't there.

If she was assaulted for being ugly then I'm completely fine with that.

[attachment=5028:ug.jpg]

I suppose!
mortonjag 2009-01-15 17:52:06
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 15 2009, 05:36 PM) [snapback]564656[/snapback]
One is a young lad. I'll go for Benzema and Viera. biggrin.gif

You're itching to get your grubby hands on Pierre's Penis!
mortonjag 2009-01-15 17:55:51
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jan 15 2009, 05:43 PM) [snapback]564665[/snapback]
yes, yes it does, you are offically despised by 95% of the ton support only being beaten by hugh scott on 100% and tying with jim dick and mark lardy.

Why do anything by halves, lets get that % rising rolleyes.gif

laugh.gif

You are more than kind!
mortonjag 2009-01-15 18:01:30
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 15 2009, 05:56 PM) [snapback]564671[/snapback]
How very dare you.

Did you just say I have grubby hands?

Or should the opportunity arise you'll be clutching Paul's balls faster than VT can access a textbook.
mortonjag 2009-01-15 18:18:53
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 15 2009, 06:08 PM) [snapback]564678[/snapback]
Very true. Who's Paul though?

A stereotypical French attacking midfielder!
mortonjag 2009-01-15 18:24:52
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 15 2009, 06:18 PM) [snapback]564685[/snapback]
Agree
I blame the French ph34r.gif

[attachment=5029:th_big_353841.gif]
mortonjag 2009-01-15 18:32:51 Good grief-I can't remember so much excitement and expectation since we signed LEAFY!
mortonjag 2009-01-15 20:48:10
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 15 2009, 06:34 PM) [snapback]564700[/snapback]
*shudders* you're a very odd wee man but i think you should give me a shout at the next game. of course i'm friendly. i know in real life you're nothing like the walloper you act on here rolleyes.gif

laugh.gif

What a relief-the nightmares will probably peter out over the next few weeks! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-15 20:51:39
QUOTE(togib @ Jan 15 2009, 06:35 PM) [snapback]564701[/snapback]
aye i agree with froggy

nothing a good swim in the clyde wont put right happy.gif happy.gif

...aye-salted jobby is a fine tonic.
mortonjag 2009-01-15 20:57:49 Well I'm certainly no Norman Tebbitt, but I can't help thinking that if there was no Social Security, their attitudes would be a wee bit more pro-active.
mortonjag 2009-01-15 21:01:02 Weatherson and Jenkins.


(sined Munx)
mortonjag 2009-01-15 21:06:16
QUOTE(Toby @ Jan 15 2009, 08:41 PM) [snapback]564736[/snapback]
Can I ask all you lot that seem to be creaming yourselves over Weatherson to imagine a scenario for a minute or so.....?

Say your wife/girlfriend/husband/boyfriend/civil partner or whatever is constantly shagging around, publicly showing contempt for you, spending money meant for the weans in the bookies, is pished on a regular basis and generally being an arsehole, but every so often gave you a brilliant ride, would you accept all the humiliation they put you through just for that?

If the answer is no, are you happy that Peter Weatherson is still a Morton player?

It's often been suggested that he's taking Shoogly for a ride.

Do you have a source, or better still a video link? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-15 21:34:46 Whoever he selects, Irons is in the mood to attack the Dark Blues.

He said: “It will be very tough, but it’s a big match for us and this could shape our season.

“We will be positive on Saturday and have a real go at them.â€


Excellent Davie- that means yet more big punts into the box-I'm sure Jocky will have been listening! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-15 21:47:21
QUOTE(diablo ton 1 @ Jan 15 2009, 09:35 PM) [snapback]564763[/snapback]
So the 50 quid or so a week from the social and some people om here have you larging it up......aye right, you try it on 50 quid a week.

There was a time not so long ago, anyone who left school with or without qualifications, you got a job. A job which enabled you to look to the future. Where are these jobs now!!!!!

The only option for many is to go onto further education, which is now the norm, not the exception.....So what we have now is highly educated people in traditional working class jobs with working class wages. Point in case, there no longer is a class system were professional educated people were seen in a higher class standing. I'm sure mortonjag would agree with this!!!!!

It has been the policy of many international goverments to forgo, the traditional industries, which supported countless jobs, apprenticeship and so on. These industries are mere memories now and the bottom line is there is very little for anyone in the situation these 2 "kids" are in.

You may not like what they have to say, how they pronounce there vowels and so on..........but the are a legacy of the last 30 - 35 years. Yes they are ignornant, but only because this goverment and the previous goverments alllow them to be, as its easier to have ignorant chavs than fix the problem.

I agree with a lot of that, and I can't quite understand why it seems to be a kick at what I said.

I merely stated that if there was no Social Security, folk like that would be more pro-active.

I don't really 'do' politics, and have little understanding of economics, but it strikes me that our traditional industries have been priced out of the market by overseas competition, rather than any government having sold them down the river.

Maybe that's had something to do with the fact that others have been willing to work their balls off for a damned sight less than the equivalent of £50 per week.
mortonjag 2009-01-15 22:03:56 I've been racking my brain all night and couldn't remember his name. Here it is-Stuart McCluskey.

He was supposed to bring much needed experience to the squad and IMHO never tried a leg from the day he arrived.

Posted in the context of keech players! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-15 22:07:25
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Jan 15 2009, 10:04 PM) [snapback]564773[/snapback]
Wrong Rossco. laugh.gif

Kermit has TWO daddies-my poor monkey is baffled! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-15 22:10:00
QUOTE(diablo ton 1 @ Jan 15 2009, 10:01 PM) [snapback]564771[/snapback]
I would never kick you mortonjag.

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mortonjag 2009-01-15 22:12:08
QUOTE(Loveless @ Jan 15 2009, 10:07 PM) [snapback]564776[/snapback]
I quite like bespectacled girls, maybe I should have been an optician...

seen
mortonjag 2009-01-15 22:14:49
QUOTE(Deego @ Jan 15 2009, 10:05 PM) [snapback]564774[/snapback]
He had talent but feck all commitment. Without the latter, the former will never amount to much.

Is that the problem with yon' POUFFE Morrison bloke?
mortonjag 2009-01-15 22:35:10
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jan 15 2009, 10:29 PM) [snapback]564782[/snapback]
If someone suggested that they had video evidence of that happening, the moderator of this "unofficial" messageboard would have it stamped out immediately.

However, if someone suggests that a BBC TV presenter got pumped in the showers at Ibrox by a Rangers FC employee, then its perfectly acceptable as it doesnt involve Morton, DDFR or any of the brats that take a wage from the club.

That could be construed as................erm shutup.gif oops.gif

Oh f*ck it...



BANG ON THE MONEY!
mortonjag 2009-01-15 22:39:12
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jan 15 2009, 10:35 PM) [snapback]564786[/snapback]
Prince Harry has apologised to the British public. In his statement he states that he is deeply sorry for referring to the *potential ethnic slur removed* as a mate. shutup.gif

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mortonjag 2009-01-15 22:42:16
QUOTE(Loveless @ Jan 15 2009, 10:39 PM) [snapback]564789[/snapback]
Haha!

In fairness I don't care much for NHS spectacles.

I detest wee Nickerless too!
mortonjag 2009-01-15 22:58:46 Strictly on topic, I believe this may have fallen out of Shoogly's back pocket!

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mortonjag 2009-01-15 23:11:15
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 15 2009, 11:02 PM) [snapback]564803[/snapback]
No, no. The topic is Celtic, not Sellick, Connections.

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mortonjag 2009-01-15 23:14:04
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 15 2009, 10:47 PM) [snapback]564794[/snapback]
What's the 70s and 80s got to do with anything? These are people my age. If you want the kind of jobs they seem to be after then you have to put in the work.

And I don't mean academically necessarily. There are plenty of courses about for things that - in the past - you would just learn through experience. Unfortunately that is not how it works anymore. Employers want to see that bit of paper.

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mortonjag 2009-01-15 23:17:37
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 15 2009, 11:00 PM) [snapback]564802[/snapback]
A dentist and a doctor getting along? Who'd have imagined?!

Surely there must be a rip in space caused by this!

A 'rip in' space Puggs-is that your erse?
mortonjag 2009-01-15 23:21:32
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 15 2009, 11:08 PM) [snapback]564806[/snapback]
Its 5/2 for the draw or a Morton win. I quite fancy us to sneak a wee 1-0 as long as the management don't mess around with a back three again.

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mortonjag 2009-01-16 06:47:17 enough is ENOUGH!
mortonjag 2009-01-16 06:57:25
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 16 2009, 12:12 AM) [snapback]564831[/snapback]
I really don't care.
Give we had two 'reliable' centre-backs in the entire squad I'd say another was needed for cover at very least. Shimmin would not IMO have been signed under even tighter finances. I'd go as far as saying you'd have to be a mentalist to look at the current situation and not see that we're at the top of our wage barrier and that with a certain midfielder in the side we simply could not have affored to push the boat out again by signing Dominic. IMO that is a logical conclusion. but it appears the sages all disagree. blink.gif

Well, go back to the drawing board and ask yourself logically if your conclusion is really logical! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-16 07:03:07
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Jan 15 2009, 11:42 PM) [snapback]564818[/snapback]
There were 3 options in the poll.

None were my preferred choice for the job, but if you put a gun to my head and made me choose one, it would have been Irons.

What don't you get?

Precisely, and here's what you said:




Irons is the lesser of 3 evils!

Jag was just being a pedantic fud as usual! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-16 07:11:42
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 16 2009, 05:28 AM) [snapback]564841[/snapback]
Probably, although it was met with excitement for about three years in a row. laugh.gif

Aye-it was a bit like Santa's sledge breaking down every week, and getting your stocking half filled in June.

LEAFY
came suddenly-wafting in like a refreshing breath of ozone on the last day of the transfer window. There was much buzz and excitement when the announcement was made by the Royal family. 'Iain Russell had just entered the ground', they proclaimed (indeed I expressed my condolences to his family, as one does, before I realised what had actually happened), and everybody was almightily gay.
mortonjag 2009-01-16 07:27:13
QUOTE(diablo ton 1 @ Jan 16 2009, 05:12 AM) [snapback]564840[/snapback]
Puggsy you obviously never graduated from university with a history degree. If you did, you would know all about the changing face of British industry during the late 70's and 80's.

Unfortunately in this instance, judging by your previous comments in this blog, you just sound like a pompous numpty, who is pontificating more than your local parish priest. It's not personal, I know you are not a pompous numpty.

It's a fact we have a shrinking job market with more folk than ever looking for work. Training courses or not, it's another fact there is no jobs after the courses are complete. The courses are just another smokescreen by the goverment who cannot fix the basic problem.

As for employers, they want people who can do the job and have the practical experience. Your bit of paper is to let them know you have completed a level of education............but lack the practical experience when just out of university. This paper does not say you can and will do the job well. Without your bit of paper you cannot be considered. However the job market just now is single tiered with only the university student being considered for typical working class jobs.

Enough said................



If you DID study history, you'll perhaps agree that 'typical working class' anything has become meaningless.

What you say otherwise is correct, and one of the main reasons for my taking the piss out of 'Universities', much to the annoyance of Puggs et al! laugh.gif

Folk are not daft-least of all employers.

It's not just a bit of paper they want-far from it..... it's what that bit of paper proves , namely that the bearer has persevered towards a goal and demonstrated a modicum of intelligence. That's better than picking numbers out of a big bag sent up from the Job Centre. Helps to kick start their training too!
mortonjag 2009-01-16 07:37:53
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 16 2009, 07:21 AM) [snapback]564846[/snapback]
If Douglas Rae is funding the purchasing and installation of the new stand, then he may be torn between his Corporate and Morton interests. I'm not sure if he's gone for outside sponsorship before, preferring to promote his own company names, Buchanan's Toffees, Millions etc. therefore I wouldn't be overly surprised if the stand is named from a similar perspective.

The important thing for me is that building the new stand means we're staying at our beloved Cappielow.

The Half Pounders Memorial Stand?

sing along with Shoogly
mortonjag 2009-01-16 08:13:58
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 16 2009, 07:41 AM) [snapback]564850[/snapback]
You make some good points Toby, as I said previously my intention was to try to find a fair standard to judge our current players against, so I selected the three teams pretty quickly off the top of my head. I have now amended the worst team as per poster's comments as below, now taking onboard your comments.
--------------------------------------------------------Mathers-----------------------------------------------------

Curran-------------------------McLeod----------------------------------McCluskey---------------------Kennedy

Blair----------------------------Rafferty---------------------------------McLaughlin--------------------McAnespie

---------------------------------McPake-----------------------------------Coakley---------------------------------
I agree Lindberg was one of our best midfielders, however the way this is worked out the middle team is the average and Lindberg is well above that standard but IMO not quite as good as Arentoft or Ritchie so doesn't make it into the top team. He'd definitely be in the squad or on the bench though as would Mark McGhee, Roy Baines, Bobby Thomson etc.

I thought Jorn Sorensen was arguably our best ever attacking midfielder.
mortonjag 2009-01-16 08:56:02
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jan 16 2009, 08:38 AM) [snapback]564859[/snapback]
It's a different story now, but 2 years ago there was no excuse for not working.

Assuming you could do a clean p1ss into a bottle and read, write and speak without swearing - there is always someone who would take you on.

Things have changed now, fair enough, and tbh those two came across a bit better than other folk you see in this type of situation.

I take it the urine bottling plant has closed down with massive redundancies.
mortonjag 2009-01-16 09:36:30
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 16 2009, 09:09 AM) [snapback]564861[/snapback]
I don't know that I agree with you Tid. I know Salmond isn't everyone's cup of tea, but he is a charismatic leader. If he can deliver independence, then he's the right man for the job. I know you think he'll blow it but I can't think of anyone else who has a better chance.

This enquiry business is just another attempt to smear the SNP government and I suspect it may come back to bite Labour, in particular, on the bum. The problem for Labour is that their collective intelligence is a lot lower than the SNP members - they have too many real thickies and few clever or able people.

Agree about Vince Cable - if I lived in England, I would very probably vote for him. I thought he did an excellent job when he was caretaker LibDem leader and he talks a lot of sense. He should have a quiet word with Tavish Scott who is like a comedy drunk.

And the problem for the SNP is that their self perceived collective intelligence is higher than that of the average voter.
mortonjag 2009-01-16 10:03:23
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 16 2009, 09:44 AM) [snapback]564866[/snapback]
It's all Walt's fault, him, gloopy books about little bunny wabbits, and cuddle bunny nature programmes.
We have come too far away from our agrarian roots and talk about animal rights FFS.

Well some eejits got a short sharp reminder yesterday.

Nature is red in tooth and claw..

Some birds are man eaters as well.
mortonjag 2009-01-16 10:15:13
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 16 2009, 09:56 AM) [snapback]564868[/snapback]
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Some said that about you when you joined the messageboard .... wub.gif

I try to be gay as much as possible-there's nothing else for it when you support the Ton. All morning I've been singing that 'Big Yellow Bag' tune-even started playing it on my geetar though the chords are quite intricate: laugh.gif

Big yellow bag, big yellow bag, big yellow bag...c'mon Naitch--that's it..big yellow bag, big yellow bag, big yellow bag-here's the official choonc'mon man-this is REEEEL GRRRRRRRRRRRRROOVY!
mortonjag 2009-01-16 10:43:55
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 16 2009, 10:31 AM) [snapback]564875[/snapback]
That precisely sums up my own attitude! The best person to help you is yourself!

I see people living long term on benefits all the time and there are several recurring themes;
  • There's always money for fags and booze
  • Quite often there's a large dug, eating more than the kids
  • Two thirds of the people on disability living allowance get it because of a 'sore back'. Its a hard one to call but Doctors willingness to continue to dish out sicklines maybe needs to be looked at
  • Council tax is an entirely optional tax - more a donation really
A lot of the people genuinely can't work for one reason or another but there's at least the same number who could if they actually wanted to but usually they don't. Working the system just becomes a way of life - a career as Davie puts it!

Nothing like exaggerating to make the point eh!

What people are quick to dismiss (or totally ignorant of) is the fact that all folk on long term sickness benefit have passed medicals performed by Benefits Agency examiners-NOT their G.P.s.

Having said that, I endorse your assertion that doctors should be left to treat illness and not used by the Government as unpaid skivvies!

I agree in general with your emotive post.

BTW are you not in employment today? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-16 10:48:18
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jan 16 2009, 10:40 AM) [snapback]564878[/snapback]
Mortonjag in 'not knowing everything' shocker ohmy.gif

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But I now have 'Big Yellow Bag' off by heart................

Ninety nine pence-you know it makes sense-big yellow bag!!

join in folks


big yellow bag!

mortonjag 2009-01-16 10:51:58 big yellow bag
mortonjag 2009-01-16 11:00:45
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jan 16 2009, 10:44 AM) [snapback]564881[/snapback]
or so it seems if this guy is to be believed, but then he hardly seems what you'd call impartial .

MIH

He has a strange name.
mortonjag 2009-01-16 11:05:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 16 2009, 10:59 AM) [snapback]564886[/snapback]
If people would please read what I say then I am saying that for people my age trying to find a job that bit of paper, be it from a university, a jumped up tech, a college, an apprenticeship etc will be one of the few reasons employers will consider you in a 'skilled' job.

WDE is right, he has the experience and back when he would have been leaving school employers were more willing to take on school leavers. Times have changed, that is all I am saying. I only have the job I have currently because of my degree but, and with most jobs it seems having spoken to other people who have graduated, the things you have learned over the course of the 3/4 years rarely come in to the job even though I work in finance!

It's the way the world has laugh.gifwent I'm afraid and I am not saying I support it, in fact I would have rather walked out of school and in to this job and earned for the past 4 years rather than spend that time at uni and getting in to debt to end up at the same result...it is just the way it is now.

You're just a proper wee tease!

Anyway, can you play 'Big Yellow Bag' on yer pipes? blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-16 11:08:24
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jan 16 2009, 10:57 AM) [snapback]564885[/snapback]
Unemployed- scroungers with dugs
Students- tax dodgers who can't afford dugs
English- arrogant twats holding back Scotland
Americans- arrogant, brainless twats holding back mankind
Aberdonians- unfriendly knobs who will set about you for not talking funny
Jews- big hook nosed thieves who control the world
Muslims- suicide bombers waiting to get their hole
Catholics- altar boys groomed in an apartheid educational system who are denied the right to wear a johnny
Protestants- boring ersholes who think they are ra peeple but who in reality are descendants of kafflicks.
Irish- thick cnuts
Welsh- secretly wanting to be English who get all hot and bothered over oval shaped baws
French- smelly, lazy ba$tards who like to drive their tractors on the motorway
Italians- masonic god/mafia fearing scoundrels who would hump their maw
Mexicans- erse bandits who like to sit at border gates…

Apologies to those I have missed out ph34r.gif

1st Division footballers-overpaid underskilled alcoholic smackheads with Geordie accents.
mortonjag 2009-01-16 11:52:59
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 16 2009, 11:22 AM) [snapback]564893[/snapback]
I have consulted with myself and maintain the stance that my conclusion is logical.

The most common cause of an incorrect conclusion is initiating the argument with false premises. Have you considered that possibility?
mortonjag 2009-01-16 11:55:57
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 16 2009, 11:38 AM) [snapback]564899[/snapback]
We have to take into account whoever was appointed had to take on possibly the most unbalanced squad of players in Scottish professional football, including the additional factor of an over-abundance of lightweight players. He then had to somehow save us from relegation with that squad.

I agree guys like Allan Moore often get a lot from very little but when managers have to deal with the expectations of our fans and our board, they have to step up a level. I think Davie Irons had be single minded and focus on his priorities in something like the following order:

1/ Get his inherited squad motivated and up for the fight.
2/ Save us from relegation.
3/ Improve the defence, good keeper and back four.
4/ Improve midfield and attack to create and score goals.
5/ Improve our home form.
6/ Play entertaining football (appease the fans).

I don't know how big a task that would be but I feel DI has handled it reasonable well.

You are probably correct, and he's already completed stages one and two.
mortonjag 2009-01-16 12:17:23
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 16 2009, 11:29 AM) [snapback]564894[/snapback]
I visit a lot of people with financial difficulty - literally thousands over the years. You may thinking I am stereotyping but the points I make are from my impressions gained over 30 years as an insolvency practitioner. OK I deal with people who are bust and maybe they have a different profile but it is a common theme that when it comes to priorities, theirs tend to be a lot different from mine!
I am in the office today having shut down a snooker club this week and in theory catching up with my mail but, truth be told, its boring!

I was not necessarily getting at doctors in my post. Its just that bad backs seem to be hard to verify medically and an easy claim for those looking for a sick line whether from the GP or the Government's own doctors - are they drawn from the local GP population?.

The other favourite is depression which seems to be endemic. Again, I don't know how much of that is real or imaginary but 'patients' being schooled in how to answer the doctor's questions seems to be a regular occurrence also. Add to that the pressure doctors are under and its the easy and safe option just to sign the patient off.

Nobody seems to dispute the huge levels of unemployment. Bear in mind that you don't have to be in a job to be certified unfit for work, and when you also consider that 'sick benefit' is more rewarding than dole money, you can easily understand why the tide is almost incapable of being stemmed.

It's a hard fact of life that patients don't take too kindly to G.P.'s who are stingy with 'lines' and prescriptions, and G.P.s still make most of their money on a per capita basis, while patients are free to shop around. Immoral? Maybe! Some docs try VERY hard to be strict while others don't give a toss.

I've long since believed that General Practice should be a salaried service, but that has not suited successive governments who know when they're onto a winner, and bear in mind G.P.s don't make the rules about certification!

Benefits Agency Medical Examiners come from various avenues of the profession. Many are existing or retired G.P.s, and all are required to undergo specialised training.

In addition, and something that's NOT popularly known, is the fact that ultimate decisions about benefits are made by Civil Servants described as adjudication officers. They regularly come under pressure from 'on high' to influence final figures. Medical Examiners who seem too lenient often find their (self employed) sessions cut back or terminated!! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-16 12:25:06
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 16 2009, 11:45 AM) [snapback]564901[/snapback]
Doctors - sanctimonious, money-grabbing mass murderers

You missed out Jewish.
mortonjag 2009-01-16 12:32:29
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 16 2009, 12:02 PM) [snapback]564917[/snapback]
I have. I did not see that as prevalent in my conclusion or methodology though.

I think in fairness to yourself, you could perhaps set out a brief flow chart for those who disbelieve you.

You could start something like this:

Known fact-Millar returning would have precluded further spending....

I'm sure the rest will be a relative dawdle.
mortonjag 2009-01-16 12:37:43
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 16 2009, 12:15 PM) [snapback]564924[/snapback]
Speaking of Half Pounders, I was surprised to see a family sitting in front of us at Villa Park dishing out a pack of those great value sweets between them last week. The Dougie Rae sweetie empire is bigger than I thought - I was also surprised when I saw a stand of Buchanan's pastilles, toffees etc in a shop in Carlisle in the summer.

The empire is a bit of a random affair. You find Golden Casket products where you'd least expect them, yet there are areas relatively close to home where you can't buy a big yellow bag unless you have the right connections! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-16 13:19:29
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jan 16 2009, 01:00 PM) [snapback]564939[/snapback]
You missed out big hook nosed thief who is part of the New World Order rolleyes.gif

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I was referring to Dr Shipman!

How about female TV presenters? - blonde, big tits, twee accent, and a fud that's seen more traffic than the Mersey Tunnel.
mortonjag 2009-01-16 13:24:58
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jan 16 2009, 01:17 PM) [snapback]564944[/snapback]
Dowza, I expect to be taking on 4 or 5 warehouse workers in the next few months usual duties - pick, pack, despatch, forklift etc. In addition I'll shortly be looking for a print engineer to handle the maintenance on a range of printing kit (KBA 8 colour press, Roland 4 colour, binding line and associated folders, guilotines, plate makers etc).

I know you're a long way away from Somerset but pm me if I can be of any help.

Hey TT-any vacancies for a guillotine operator.

I've a couple of heads in mind! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-16 13:46:55 Hi Sean-I'd like to listen to your choons but my anti-malware programme automatically blocks myspace! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-16 13:50:45
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jan 16 2009, 01:41 PM) [snapback]564950[/snapback]
I bought some 'Millions' (it was Majorca or mainland Spain ?) The sun worshipping happy clapper that I am.

I always have a ready supply of Shoogly's Soor Plooms, upon which I am wont to sook.

I hope his spies inform him that MJ is plugging his confections! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-16 13:53:41
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jan 16 2009, 01:49 PM) [snapback]564953[/snapback]
Aaah sorry to hear that. You could try loading it through a proxy server. A list is available at

www.publicproxyservers.com/

(i havent been able to check this link still works because it is blocked from my work!)

TY-I shall give that a bash!
mortonjag 2009-01-16 13:57:15
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jan 16 2009, 01:53 PM) [snapback]564955[/snapback]
Don't worry , I'm on the case. ph34r.gif

Excellent and tell him his Fudgy Wudgys go down a bomb with all the children I meet! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-16 14:02:20
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 16 2009, 01:56 PM) [snapback]564958[/snapback]
Pointing out a wee flaw and then changing the subject.

I'm assuming my points were valid then happy.gif

wub.gif

All opinions are valid-that's the whole point of a pubic massage board. Can you play this on your tartan octopus?
drum roll....and..

mortonjag 2009-01-16 14:05:56
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Jan 16 2009, 01:55 PM) [snapback]564957[/snapback]
Yer just a fud anyway. No change there. wink.gif

transvestite guy fell oot the windae and hit the ground with a fud.
mortonjag 2009-01-16 14:19:48
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jan 16 2009, 02:14 PM) [snapback]564970[/snapback]
Not at the moment MJ but I'm sure a few on here would pay good money to see you meet Madame Guilotine tongue.gif

I doubt it TT-they're a shower of tight fisted, slack arsed whingers who grudge the price of a pie and bovril, and spend all day on their playstations. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-16 14:28:23
QUOTE(king_bob @ Jan 16 2009, 02:23 PM) [snapback]564975[/snapback]
If Shimmin doesnt make it tomorrow who do you think would be most likley to replace him. Came up with a few suggestions.

Walker Greacen McGregor Smith

McGregor Greacen McManus Walker

McGregor Greacen Smith Walker

McGregor Greacen Harding Walker

McGregor's out as well.

Dom will be there! bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-16 14:31:50 It might be an idea to get a bid in quickly for one of the stands.
mortonjag 2009-01-16 14:41:18
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jan 16 2009, 02:38 PM) [snapback]564985[/snapback]
My signature has nothing to do with the size of my penis actually, but i would say that its slightly above average size if you must know. The signature will only be up for another week anyway (or until i get told to remove it). Plenty of people have massive signatures with "album of the month" type stuff, geeky sci fi/computer game type things, and foreign football teams in them so i thought i would get in on the action and use mine to promote some gigs ive got coming up. is that ok? At least you can actually read mine and understand what it is and the purpose of it. Yours just has a picture of some kind of storm trooper or something with the word "genitals" at the bottom of it. what is that all about?

Massive ginger pube clad baws would probably be deemed NSFW! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-16 16:11:53
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 16 2009, 02:49 PM) [snapback]564992[/snapback]
That's 2 people who've put Dale at left back now - was he not a centre back? unsure.gif

He came to us around the same time as John Adam and Chris Millar-a young left back from Rangers I think-here's a nostalgic link
Jimbo used to score goals!
mortonjag 2009-01-16 16:16:22
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jan 16 2009, 04:10 PM) [snapback]565038[/snapback]
I was walking down the Stampede Trail in Alaska, the weather was closing in and the light was fading, I came across an abandoned bus, I lit the stove and had a forage around for food, all the cupboards were bare except for an unopened pack of those tiny tasty chewy sweeties.

Mr Rae rots teeth the world over

I believe you!



Millions wouldn't.
mortonjag 2009-01-16 16:21:55
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 16 2009, 03:01 PM) [snapback]565002[/snapback]
Agreed. It's all very well to be running the country in a competent manner, and I think most people accept that the SNP government is doing that despite the severe restrictions imposed on them my not having an overall majority (well, apart from MJ obviously but that's because Nicola Sturgeon won't return his calls asking her for a date), but independence should not be put on the back burner. IMHO we should be getting the message across a lot more strongly. Things have gone too quiet lately.

I'd rather have a blow job from a belt sander.

Apologies for the unconscious humour.

Wallace's sword-nah Wilkinson's sword is what that incompetent worships.
mortonjag 2009-01-16 16:29:08
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 16 2009, 03:03 PM) [snapback]565004[/snapback]
Can I point you in the general direction of the 'stereotype' thread Douglas? laugh.gif

I suspect you can, Peter but you most certainly may not!
mortonjag 2009-01-16 17:31:09
QUOTE(bigstu22 @ Jan 16 2009, 05:05 PM) [snapback]565060[/snapback]
TID, I don't profess for one minute to know my head from my arse politically. However, one thing I do know is that charisma and oratary skills win votes by the bucket load. Like him or loathe him, it's beyond argument that Alex Salmond has both in very large measure.

The SNP are on the high you mention not despite him, but because of him. I'd love to hear who you have in mind for replacing him at the helm because I'm at a complete loss.

Correct my friend-hard to know which is bigger.

Salmond's a smug, sleekit, self satisfied snake, surrounded by a sickeningly slimy shower of semi-competent satellites. Sturgeon is a serpent, a forked tonged liar, a blight on an already moribund NHS.

Charisma-don't make me laugh-he has about as much presence as a Mason at Mass.

Oratory skills-show me a politician who can't talk and I'll show you the Ton's position in next season's SPL! mad.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-16 19:40:59
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 16 2009, 06:51 PM) [snapback]565093[/snapback]
And here was me thinking the enquiries have not taken place yet. rolleyes.gif
But the the anti-Salmond, anti-SNP, usual suspect posters on this forum have him guilty as charged !

This is of course another despertate attempt by the unionist parties to try were the have failed in the past, and that is landing a glove on Salmond.

The Standards Committee is made up of unionist MSP's who will of course be out to find him guilty, but Salmond again is one step ahead of them and orders another Enquiry lead by former Presiding Officers Steele and Reid.
Who I'm sure will hold a more unbiased Enquiry.

The unionists simply cannot handle this master-politician. They are confined to try and blacken his name with ridiculous enquiries that no one will pay attention to.

Salmond is on course to deliver a Bill next year on independence. A referendum that will bring a resounding YES vote and the break up of the United Kingdom smile.gif

What an accolade Spurtle-is that similar to Gentleman Burglar, and Practised Killer-a master politician, no less.

Then again, when one thinks of the definition of a politician, a member of an amoral and parasitic low life, I guess I'm happy to acknowledge that that leering and bawheided buffoon is the Maestro.

QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jan 16 2009, 07:13 PM) [snapback]565101[/snapback]
I find myself in complete accord with Col on this. Politicians moaning about not being able to get a straight answer from another politician must truly be the depths of desperation. If that's the best they can muster then they should be looking for a career in Big Brother or something equally profound.


Give him time TT-Galloway and Sheridan are both brighter than that tumshie! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-16 20:00:21
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 16 2009, 05:55 PM) [snapback]565076[/snapback]
I remember that game - in terms of quality, the worst match I've ever seen in Scottish football. It was truly rank, and was that not the day the West Brom fans were up to see a Morton game? What a great advert for Scottish football that was. laugh.gif

Aye, I remembered that he came with Adam and Millar - did they not all make their debuts at Hampden, with Adam scoring from 25 yards? I was just surprised that we had any left backs as we'd been playing a back three most of the time.

Correct. I remember saying to my brother that Millar looked a 'footballer'.
mortonjag 2009-01-16 20:04:37 He's a right WINGER!

Not a hope-Irons doesn't do wing play. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-16 20:12:44
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jan 16 2009, 07:17 PM) [snapback]565105[/snapback]
I bought half a kilo in Havana last summer.

I think you're lying. They only come in big yellow bags at ninety nine pence-you know it makes sense

you know it makes sense!


mortonjag 2009-01-16 20:17:34
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jan 16 2009, 08:01 PM) [snapback]565142[/snapback]
Don't worry LT, it isn't true. rolleyes.gif

Official club statement or just opinion? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-16 20:24:54 I find your new avatar disturbing. I can cope with the dog but the erotic nature of the owner's posture may kindle unwelcome desires among posters of unwelcome sexual orientation.

All day I've been happily singing 'Big Yellow Bag' and now all I can think about is scudding little pink botties. blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-16 20:29:51
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 16 2009, 08:28 PM) [snapback]565152[/snapback]
PMs for this p1sh? smile.gif

Away and blow yer big yellow bagpipes.
mortonjag 2009-01-16 20:42:37
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Jan 16 2009, 08:35 PM) [snapback]565156[/snapback]
what does a lefty actually mean?

politically I mean

A Labour c*nt! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-16 20:53:14 As one who never accesses porno sites on principle blush.gif I have to say that MidTONs' 'jobby comin' oot' thread was one of the funniest I can remember.

It was just a pity that some folk couldn't stomach watching a totally natural performance in all its uncut beauty.

I'm quite sure those same folk watch Nuns getting shagged up the arse by bull elephants and the like.

Bring back the jobby video! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-16 21:03:17 In my experience Tories are more sincere than 'Lefties'. smile.gif

Of course I have little time for politics and politicians.

I quite liked some things about Mrs Thatcher, and also liked yon' Scottish Labour guy who died prematurely-not Durex.

Liberals tend to be wishy washy POUFFES.

Sheridan types are pure unadulterated sh*te, as are the Moseleys.

Scot Nats-don't get me started on the Tartan Tolies. mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-16 21:18:57
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Jan 16 2009, 09:10 PM) [snapback]565187[/snapback]
Ahh didnea see it - is that what you call POO....NANY???
Jaiket

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It was amazin'-they scooped the fresh jobby onto a plate or something. It looked just like my favourite ice cream-had me salivating and stuff.

Maybe MidTON's could help you out! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-16 21:22:45
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 16 2009, 09:17 PM) [snapback]565194[/snapback]
absolutely. they're c***s and they know they are.

Exactly, and lefties are also c*nts who know they are, but pretend butter wouldn't melt in their mouths.
mortonjag 2009-01-16 21:30:05
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 16 2009, 09:26 PM) [snapback]565201[/snapback]
The world according to Mentaljag : It's overcrowded with c***s. laugh.gif

At your cervix Sir.
mortonjag 2009-01-16 21:32:18
QUOTE(Loveless @ Jan 16 2009, 09:19 PM) [snapback]565196[/snapback]
I really feel this "thread" has went off topic, and rightly so. I'll be honest, I don't like English people much, and I don't like Scottish people much either.

So let's get down to what really matters. I would be grateful if other users could post pictures of attractive girls wearing glasses, I would get the ball rolling but being a bit of a technophobe I don't know how to put pictures into these posts!

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mortonjag 2009-01-16 21:41:15
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 16 2009, 09:14 PM) [snapback]565192[/snapback]
you honestly think every politician is a w**k mj? no doubt there are loads who are but ffs someones got to do it! never seen you as an anarchist ohmy.gif

btw did you see that i called you mj there? are you going to give me a wave at the livi game? wub.gif

If you're very, very good, I may consider it! wub.gif

Forza-I understand what you're saying. I believe that ALL folk who enter politics do so because they think they 'know better'. That's a bad start, but doesn't per se make them bad people.

What happens when they get in there is just a reflection of life in general. If your face doesn't fit in any organisation you're soon 'oot the door', so politicians who hope to have any measure of success rapidly learn how to swim with the tide.

Nothing will persuade me that there is a grain of morality in mainstream politics.

And there you have it! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-16 22:17:39
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 16 2009, 09:46 PM) [snapback]565211[/snapback]
but how will i know you?

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One step at a time!

Mortonjag has ways of making himself known! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-16 22:20:34
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 16 2009, 10:15 PM) [snapback]565221[/snapback]
Ice cold, in the morning, and from a glass bottle.

All else is poofery. happy.gif

Indeed, though I'm also partial to mine in a glass bottle-per rectum.
mortonjag 2009-01-16 22:24:54
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 16 2009, 09:43 PM) [snapback]565210[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDMay I call her Gillian?
mortonjag 2009-01-16 22:27:49
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jan 16 2009, 09:41 PM) [snapback]565208[/snapback]
No, but I do believe my "joke", however awful, was blindingly obvious

and I do also believe it went right over your head.
Sorsas, saucers, cups, you see?

I'm sure some of us understood you China!
mortonjag 2009-01-17 09:26:21
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 17 2009, 12:16 AM) [snapback]565321[/snapback]
Because I think he's a waste of space, to be perfectly honest, all he contributes on the field is a load of over-head kicks to no-one, and he doesn't look remotely like scoring.

We keep hearing about him being such a good influence in the dressing room - so give him a coaching job instead rolleyes.gif

laugh.gif

You're either takin' the piss or you've lost your marbles EM. He's a superb influence on the field and is the brains (along with Spoonsy) behind almost every decent attacking move.

I agree about the coach thing mind you-I'd even gamble on making him manager tomorrow. He's got that Derek McInnes thing which DI lacks, and it's not just because they're both Pishley c*nts either!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-17 09:30:23
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 17 2009, 12:33 AM) [snapback]565338[/snapback]
You're such a tease.

He was serious. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-17 09:33:47
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Jan 17 2009, 01:07 AM) [snapback]565358[/snapback]
doubt he will come, anyway who wants sex?

I've just checked to see if it would be legal.

PM me after we beat the Dee.
mortonjag 2009-01-17 09:39:19
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jan 16 2009, 11:05 PM) [snapback]565277[/snapback]
I just went for a generic Scandinavian type accent...

I heard you're partial to the odd swede-change from the carrots I imagine.

Hey-I was thinking we could get lots and lots of 'best regardes' if we all started sending e-mails to ex players.

I could start the ball rolling with one to Scott McLaughlin asking if he's 'up for it'? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-17 10:17:08
QUOTE(Loveless @ Jan 17 2009, 12:47 AM) [snapback]565350[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-01-17 10:20:37
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 17 2009, 08:13 AM) [snapback]565378[/snapback]
Because the Saddam Hussein ones have sold out.

Seriously though, you might as well wear a Fred West t-shirt.

..and head for a party, though you'd have to dig up a bird first I'd imagine.
mortonjag 2009-01-17 10:27:26
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 17 2009, 12:21 AM) [snapback]565327[/snapback]
Think I was 17 the last time I drank Irn Bru. rip.gif thumbdown.gif

That was your first drink Peter?
mortonjag 2009-01-17 10:33:03 Oh my GOD

I'ts Donnelly's birthday and everybody's wishing him many happy returns!

Quite scary really to think I was a man before he was a twinkle in his daddy's eye!

VERY scary actually.

May I wish you many happy returns Sean. Stay sober and buy a big yellow bag at ninety nine pence-you know it makes sense!

singalong with Shoogly!
mortonjag 2009-01-17 10:42:51
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 17 2009, 10:03 AM) [snapback]565406[/snapback]
huh.gif

Always thought you 'championed' experienced guys to get the gaffer's job?

Hence the word 'gamble' my dear! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-17 11:00:57
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 17 2009, 10:41 AM) [snapback]565418[/snapback]
I think it is all hilarious.

Rangers FC, the biggest diddy club in Scotland. laugh.gif


No chance of them going to the dogs though, and more's the pity!

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mortonjag 2009-01-17 11:12:32
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 17 2009, 11:07 AM) [snapback]565430[/snapback]
Well it certainly would be a gamble to unseat a relatively settled manager who looks intent on trying to build something at the club. wink.gif

I thought the new Big Yellow Bag Stand was being erected by outside contractors.
mortonjag 2009-01-17 12:08:51
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 17 2009, 11:25 AM) [snapback]565439[/snapback]
Talking about dogs......

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mortonjag 2009-01-17 12:14:45 Seem set to overtake-general Ton chatter topics.

My simple theory is that there is less and less to get excited about on the football side. No doubt many will beg to differ!
mortonjag 2009-01-17 22:20:45
QUOTE(suda @ Jan 17 2009, 09:09 PM) [snapback]565775[/snapback]
Agreed. Thought we were unlucky to go in at the break without scoring, Rab Douglas kept them in it 1st half and with his 2nd half save off McGuffie. Greacen was imense today at the back although why he didn't smash the ball into the net at the stramash instead of trying to knee it in. Ended up holding out for the last 20 mins but strong defending from an usual back four which finished with Smith playing centre half. Dundee couldn't finish a sentance.

Just as well then, considering Cuthbert (who didn't put a foot wrong and was my man of the match by a country mile), had at least three outstanding saves! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-17 22:26:27
QUOTE(Wonko the Sane @ Jan 17 2009, 07:48 PM) [snapback]565735[/snapback]
Fair result. Should have been ahead at the break. Masterton set pieces had Dundee in turmoil. Hit the post with one free kick and brought a good save from Douglas with another. Douglas almost let a McGuffie shot go under him and the stramash from the resultant corner should have put us in front. How we never scored in beyond me but I had trouble seeing half of it because the wee guy in front of me kept jumping up. A couple of near things for Dundee but I though we were always more likely to score.

Had more chances in the second half. Douglas saved well from Wakey. Dundee had more chances and Mc Meneneneneminimin missed an open goal after Kev saved well from a fine turn and shot from Antoine-Courier. Could have lost it at the death due to defensive nerves but ref correctly whistled for a foul on Cuthbert.

No failures. Great to see Chris Smith back and he played very well at left back then centre back when McManus went off. McGuffie was best I've seen him and Wake caused them problems all game. And let's hear it for a decent referee. Got most decisions right, a rarity this season

Agreed. Smith played well and for me Alex Walker again deserves credit. Not only did he acquit himself well in BOTH full back positions, despite being a midfielder, but his throw ins were almost as long as Pantaloons, AND found their man 90% of the time.
mortonjag 2009-01-17 22:34:26
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 17 2009, 05:29 PM) [snapback]565687[/snapback]
You're a c*nt. There, one.



laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

How can Anus possibly be a c*nt. That's an anatomical conundrum. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-17 22:39:42
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 17 2009, 05:14 PM) [snapback]565685[/snapback]
If that is a totally natural performance to you then I think you need your head examined smile.gif

Don't talk sh*te son. That's nothing like the true picture. The only way to decide is to bring it back.


I WANT MORE JOBBIES! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-17 22:42:13
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 17 2009, 07:03 PM) [snapback]565723[/snapback]
your burds an ugly slut? huh.gif

You'd just LOVE to know! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-17 22:46:19
QUOTE(Deego @ Jan 17 2009, 08:35 PM) [snapback]565749[/snapback]
Speaking of blows...

I'm waiting MJ. dry.gif

That's tomorrow dear-tall Jamie tonight! wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-17 23:00:49
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 17 2009, 06:43 PM) [snapback]565715[/snapback]
Morrisey have handled National Service?

He'd have got stuck right in.
mortonjag 2009-01-17 23:05:08
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Jan 17 2009, 07:45 PM) [snapback]565733[/snapback]
more things happen in the world than they do in greenock and in this case greenock morton

so no wonder this forum is busier

mortonjag.. you are an old fart and I hate your posts

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If everybody liked them I'd start worrying.

May I describe you as a jumped up turd?
mortonjag 2009-01-17 23:12:28
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jan 17 2009, 04:30 PM) [snapback]565622[/snapback]
I think you should just batter him. jerry.gif bouncy.gif

.............and drop him in boiling oil.

Instant deep fried faggot.
mortonjag 2009-01-17 23:15:26
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 17 2009, 07:06 PM) [snapback]565724[/snapback]
People still listen to Radio Clyde for their football coverage? blink.gif

Anyway, I'm sure DI & DC will be setting out the team to win both matches and we'll be well on our way if we manage to take the full six points. Four would still be good though. smile.gif

So we ARE signing wingers!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-17 23:24:52 I've always preferred bitches, and Black Labs. are my favourite. I once had a Borzoi bitch-she was the most intelligent beast I've ever known. The Golden retriever bitch was beautiful but daft and lazy, and slabbered too much.

The best dog was my first, and was a wee mongrel. I had him for sixteen years till he was sadly knocked down and killed.

I quite like some cats but they are very like women.
mortonjag 2009-01-17 23:42:31
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 17 2009, 09:20 PM) [snapback]565781[/snapback]
My claim to fame: sitting next to Janne Lindberg at the Ardgowan Primary P7 Burns Supper ph34r.gif biggrin.gif

Did he offer you a wee taste of his haggis?
mortonjag 2009-01-17 23:48:28
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 17 2009, 11:41 PM) [snapback]565829[/snapback]
Hmmm, lot of VT bashing on this thread. rolleyes.gif

Indeed-I can empathise with the wee soul but he deserves it! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-17 23:50:43
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 17 2009, 11:40 PM) [snapback]565828[/snapback]
Maybe he's not an Anus. wink.gif

You mean he's a c*nt incognito? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-18 00:06:24 According to one rather loud young fan at Dens Park yesterday afternoon.

I'm still trying to work out which of them is supposed to be Gay, and indeed whether or not the Chairman appreciates dirty washing being laundered in public. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-18 09:23:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 18 2009, 06:35 AM) [snapback]565909[/snapback]
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I wouldn't go to Holland for a diddy international game, only for, erm, pleasure. blush.gif
I know it takes some of the old yins an hour to type up a post but really x thousand posts over a year and a half isn't remotely obsessive if you can hold a keyboard the right way. Given I'm using the Internet for my studies all the time anyway...

That's clearly where you're going wrong SPARROT.

I'm sorry-I had you down as a genuine text book plagiarist when you're just a cheap wee on line cheat, though it's not for me to pronounce on your virginity! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-18 09:34:17
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 18 2009, 12:21 AM) [snapback]565843[/snapback]
We don't need wingers to win matches. wink.gif

I have never said we do, but it would certainly increase our options up front.

QUOTE(centralTON @ Jan 18 2009, 12:53 AM) [snapback]565863[/snapback]
Of course we could win these games, but, I think today showed that we lack a real presence up front. We had several chances in the first half, but, couldn't take advantage of them. Sure, Spoonsy has been scoring lately, but, we lack a real quality striker, by that I mean a 20 goal a season player.

You're now flying in the face of perceived wisdom Central-Irons still hasn't worked out that Wake and Spoonsy don't gel. Even LEAFY would be a better partner up front for our in form hit man, but then that would require a rethink about 'punt and hunt'! ph34r.gif

BTW Central- are you as bald as a coot-I have a good reason for asking! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Tractorton @ Jan 18 2009, 08:32 AM) [snapback]565917[/snapback]
Looking at the table, I was thinking back to the late late 1-0 defeat at St Johnstone and the 1-0 penalty defeat to Airdrie! Just think, we would be sitting in second spot........dreaming I know and if's and buts, but hey that's being a footy supporter!

Both games that were there for the taking-in particular the Saints one. I was pleased with our first half performance yesterday. I noticed the shrink was on the pitch before kick off, so he maybe deserves a bit of credit, but DI delivered what he promised and we 'had a go'. If he can only sort out the supply and wide play I may even decide he's worth keeping for a bit! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-18 09:44:03
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 18 2009, 12:18 AM) [snapback]565840[/snapback]
Are you drunk MJ? Unusually high amount of, erm, comments coming from you tonight? smile.gif

Don't be daft!

QUOTE(Deego @ Jan 18 2009, 12:27 AM) [snapback]565850[/snapback]
Rae is gay, according to John Adam. Infact he'd 'love to ride that old ****.'

Really?

QUOTE(xj2006 @ Jan 18 2009, 01:24 AM) [snapback]565886[/snapback]
SHUT UP!!!!!

you inane comments are even worse than newton's

speaking of which

I miss newton wub.gif

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QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 18 2009, 01:34 AM) [snapback]565893[/snapback]
You've taken that too far! laugh.gif

Newt has more wit and intelligence in one of his big toes than all of you young lot put together. He is much misunderstood.
mortonjag 2009-01-18 09:49:46
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Jan 18 2009, 01:37 AM) [snapback]565897[/snapback]
I love dogs, even although I was bit by a bull mastiff at a young age

I was scared for while.. but I got over it.

thanks for this post (genuinely), but you do realise you have left yourself open for more sterotypical pish?

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It's 'water of a duck's back'. I love animals-particularly dogs.

My ex-partner's nickname is sledge, 'cos he was always getting pulled by them.
mortonjag 2009-01-18 11:39:13
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 18 2009, 10:31 AM) [snapback]565932[/snapback]
f*** sake mortonjag the guys about 17!!!! stop being a cyber bully. a retired proffesional man fighting on a messageboard with a wee guy laugh.gif

He's eighteen and claims to be a man. If he wants to take on men that's fine by me. Jousting with the Jag, however, he gets what's coming, and he just LOVES basking in reflected brilliance! laugh.gif


QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 18 2009, 11:16 AM) [snapback]565953[/snapback]
dont get me wrong t.i.d. i've seen vt's sheer bunnetry on p and b and it is pretty embarrassing. i think he seems like quite an odd wee fella. just as mj is a very odd old fella.

Decadent queer? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-18 11:54:42
QUOTE(Patg @ Jan 18 2009, 11:05 AM) [snapback]565947[/snapback]
ok im ready for a kicking here ..

Ive had few German Sheppards and was sad day when last year had get my 13 yr old one down devasted is not the word let me tell you..

And swore that night no more dogs in this house ..

But Late last year I purchashed a Labradoodle and called him Kai ...

He is the most loving dog you could ever own I believe its the puppy that Barrack Obhama is getting his kids ..

Ok guys commence the kicking but I dont care hes great ..
Pat G

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mortonjag 2009-01-18 11:58:52

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 18 2009, 11:00 AM) [snapback]565945[/snapback]
Totally agree although Glasgow doesn't have the same buzz as areas of London. I really like Allison Street in the Southside for example.

The perceived wisdom is that it's a complete sh*thole Peter. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-18 12:04:08
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 18 2009, 11:20 AM) [snapback]565955[/snapback]
surely that's the fun of the internet though? it doesn't bother me if someone "hides" behind a keyboard. that's up to them. i've often though how different the discussions held on here would be if they were held in a pub. i think people would still argue their case but it wouldn't get so heated. there's fun to be had either way. smile.gif

That's correct, with one caveat, and here's a wee clue:


MISCELLANEOUS
While we're not affiliated or associated with Greenock Morton F.C. in any way, we would like to keep a good relationship with them and ensure the stature and reputation of our club isn't compromised on here.



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mortonjag 2009-01-18 12:07:30 That's a scunner. He must be thoroughly disgusted.
mortonjag 2009-01-18 12:12:05
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jan 18 2009, 09:34 AM) [snapback]565921[/snapback]
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That's actually quite accurate.

I had just put Fifa on when my 3yr-old woke up started crying, I had a funny feeling someone was about to challenge me so decided just to bail out first rather than have to decline (particularly as by this stage my son was downstairs and lying on top of my right arm, which made pressing the buttons difficult!)

You'd have gubbed me anyway, I've only played about a dozen matches. I'll play you next weekend, if not before (can't be tonight though).

FFS-in my day the only way you could control a three year old was with a good scud on the bahookie.
mortonjag 2009-01-18 12:18:25
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 18 2009, 12:03 PM) [snapback]565963[/snapback]
Maybe, just maybe, for once in your life you are wrong. rolleyes.gif

HA-you seem to have taken that a wee bit personally Peter. Let me update you then.

Allison Street IS a sh*thole, and anybody of any ethnicity who doesn't agree is deluded. No self respecting Scot or Asian CHOOSES to live in Allison Street, though it is for many the best they can aspire to, or a mere stepping stone.

A melange of sh*t and decent folk trying to escape from it, and still a bloody sh*thole! mad.gif

The mealy mouthed platitudes of suburbans do NOT alter fact! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-18 12:22:25
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 18 2009, 12:06 PM) [snapback]565965[/snapback]
My wife's parents were from farming families in the borders and she grew up around animals including a monkey her dad brought home one day.

...which may explain her choice of partner.
mortonjag 2009-01-18 12:27:01
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Jan 18 2009, 12:21 PM) [snapback]565973[/snapback]
I know of plenty of immigrants who would love to live in a high rise in sighthill. so allison street is even better for some folk.

Really-can you tell me a few of their names?

High rises in Sighthill are FULL of immigrants and have been for ten years-maybe that's why they see Allison St as better! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-18 12:29:01
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 18 2009, 12:21 PM) [snapback]565972[/snapback]
I like shopping there. I never live there. laugh.gif

Really!

Which shops do you frequent and what do you purchase? I didn't have you down as a 'Savile Row suit aff the back of a lorry' man! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-18 12:54:37
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 18 2009, 12:30 PM) [snapback]565977[/snapback]
Rose tinted spectacles Tom?

Would that be the same Govanhill that if you venture close to at night you are risking your health, or indeed maybe your life.
My pal stays not too far and drives the night buses and he said it is now a terrifying place at night mainly down to the intimidation from eastern Europeans. Large groups of them hanging around all through the night 'up to no good'.
BTW, before anyone accuses of racism (which normally follows statements like the above), he goes out with an Indian lass.

Give it time Barbie-give it time! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-18 12:57:16
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 18 2009, 12:50 PM) [snapback]565979[/snapback]
Nope....he isn't

He most certainly is-well at least by those with a proper education!
mortonjag 2009-01-18 13:01:10
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 18 2009, 11:36 AM) [snapback]565959[/snapback]
I thought they were competent saves by a good goallie and you would have been disappointed if any of them had gone in. Two or three of the saves Douglas made, on the other hand, were world class.

As for man of the match, Cuthbert's wee fumble at the end for me just emphasises that my man of the match was Stewart Greacen who hardly put a foot wrong. Honourable mentions though to Cuthbert, McGuffie, McManus (yes thats McManus!) Smith and Masterton who all had excellent games on a day when there were no real failures. As has been commented on by others, I was a bit disappointed in our wing play. Kevin regularly got himself into good positions but could'nt deliver and McAllister looks more and more these days like a player needing a rest.

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They WERE quite good mind! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-18 13:07:27
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 18 2009, 12:55 PM) [snapback]565984[/snapback]
Ha!! Missed that bit first time of reading. Classic. Keep them coming. laugh.gif

I pop into fruit and veg shops in Allison Street as I have a customer just around the corner.

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My mate opened his first shop there in the mid seventies-he now owns a wholesale business at the Blochairn market where the owners of your said shops are always welcome to barter for class B fruit and veg. that's just about had it! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-18 13:10:04
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 18 2009, 12:59 PM) [snapback]565986[/snapback]
Nope...he isn't smile.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif

Sorry-shall I rephrase it?

Those who have been educated in a PROPER university.
mortonjag 2009-01-18 13:47:40
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 18 2009, 01:14 PM) [snapback]565992[/snapback]
Nope...he isn't smile.gif

My point is confirmed by your mindless repetition! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-18 13:55:19
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 18 2009, 01:42 PM) [snapback]566012[/snapback]
Ah the Mk III and Mk IV. Cracking.

I remember thinking that the MkII lotus 1600 in silver grey was the car to have.

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDThat's a bigger picture than mine Mr Bam-aye everybody wanted a Lotus Cortina!
mortonjag 2009-01-18 14:07:17
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 18 2009, 01:41 PM) [snapback]566011[/snapback]
South Govanhill (the area running from Allison Street to Dixon Avenue) contains some of the worst housing conditions in Western Europe. Some of the slums are worse than Dickensian (you can add discarded drog needles to the piles of rubbish, filth , even human excrement, that litter some of the worst closes and backcourts).. Internally, the properties are in very poor condition with substandard drainage, plumbing and electrics, inadequate heating and ventilation, rotting timber floors and window lintols, and c***roach and rat infestations. Externally, a high proportion of the properties have significant structural defects, in one case last year a close wall collapsed and the residents had to be evacuated.
The problems affecting the area became desperately accute approximately 3 years ago with the arrival of around 3000 Roma from Slovakia. These people are probably the poorest, worst exploited people in the whole of Europe (they have been hounded and persecuted for centuries and were victims of the nazi holocaust). They came from living on rubbish dumps in Slovakia to what they saw as a better life in Govanhill. They are ruthlessy exploited by scumbags : gangmasters , rogue 'tax and minimum wage' dodging employers and 'rachman' slum landlords.
Local residents groups and Govanhill Housing Association have campaigned and petioned both Glasgow City Council and the Scottish Government for funding and legislative action to deal with the problem. Thankfully, some progress is now being made, with some of the worst landlords being taken to court and money being promised for compulsory purchase orders and comprehensive refurbishment schemes.
One of the main public health problems is overcrowding, some of the properties can have as many as 10 people living in one room. It should be recognised that the Roma's problems are principally Slovakia's and the European Union's, not just Govanhill's, Glasgow's or Scotland's.


WERE!

TY for that Mr Edwards, and thanks to Mr Bam for confirming the ethnicity of the majority of exploiters, who have been 'at it' for many many years before the Roma arrived.

I have repeatedly stated that a reasonably happy multicultural area has been ruined by the untrammelled dumping of a rag bag of European immigrants into a very small area of Glasgow.

I have repeatedly stated that decent Glaswegians of all ethnic origins object strongly.

Hopefully on this occasion the facts will not be adulterated by ignorant young Inverclyde brats with their own agenda! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-18 14:14:12
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 18 2009, 01:55 PM) [snapback]566019[/snapback]
Is that not your speciality? tongue.gif

Was that a rhetorical question?

Was that a rhetorical question?

Was that a rhetorical question?

Was that a rhetorical question?

Was that a rhetorical question?
mortonjag 2009-01-18 14:17:39
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 18 2009, 01:03 PM) [snapback]565988[/snapback]
True; the chances of someone else beating St. Johnstone at Cappielow are small indeed. wink.gif

....though one must always expect the unexpected! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-18 14:22:59 Here's the Jag's system.

£1 Canadian-always bet five draws on First Division.

Did OK yesterday! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-18 14:25:36
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 18 2009, 02:23 PM) [snapback]566035[/snapback]
And so is mine happy.gif

What was your point?
mortonjag 2009-01-18 14:28:52
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 18 2009, 01:23 PM) [snapback]565996[/snapback]
5000 Israeli troops have just entered Jordon
early reports say she is tired and her arse is sore but she will soldier on.


But all their weapons have been nicked.
mortonjag 2009-01-18 14:36:42
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 18 2009, 02:07 PM) [snapback]566030[/snapback]
The Rover 3500 with the aluminium V8 engine looked damned fine too. It seemed an iconic sixties car.

ETA, for those who have never seen one...........

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mortonjag 2009-01-18 14:42:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 18 2009, 02:38 PM) [snapback]566042[/snapback]
Nope...he isn't smile.gif

Nope-who's not what?
mortonjag 2009-01-18 14:46:08
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 18 2009, 02:31 PM) [snapback]566039[/snapback]
The arrival of the Roma has greatly exacerbated the problems ; dump the poorest people in Europe amongst some of the poorest people in Scotland and it's hardly surprising. And yes, it's probably fair to say that some of the worst offending slum landlords are Asian, Mohammad Aslam and Cooncillor Kalishnikov being two notorious examples. But a rogue is a rogue, whatever the race, religion or class.

That name rings a bell!

Is he not one of BAWHEID'S lot?

I heard he was going to sell his Southside mansion because he couldn't afford the Council Tax or something.

Maybe the cost of sending his daughter to a good Scottish University Oxford was the straw that broke the camel's back! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-18 14:50:19
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Jan 18 2009, 02:45 PM) [snapback]566044[/snapback]
Thats a good idea. Usually dont bet on first division teams as its so unpredictable but that must be a good wee bet. Also its only a pound so not much damage done to the piggy bank.

Well it works out at 26 units at whatever you want to stash on each.

Over the course of a season you'll be hard pressed not to make a decent profit.
mortonjag 2009-01-18 15:12:14
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 18 2009, 03:00 PM) [snapback]566053[/snapback]
I've mentioned the 'comedy' Kholi brothers on this forum before and was accused of racism. Most of their slums are in Woodlands and the West End I think.

Argyle St and surroundings.

Why don't those guys just 'play the white man'?
mortonjag 2009-01-18 15:15:04
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 18 2009, 03:01 PM) [snapback]566054[/snapback]
I disagree with you, mortonjag. These young ones might be thick, but I'm witty as f*ck.

Who the f*ck's f***?
mortonjag 2009-01-18 15:17:03
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 18 2009, 02:55 PM) [snapback]566051[/snapback]
I take it that 'sledge' was a professional or business partner, or is Mentaljag coming oot the closet? laugh.gif

Mortonjag has had various partners of both sexes.
mortonjag 2009-01-18 15:21:04 I always believed Stu was a 'confidence' player and that he and RH couldn't gel. With Shimmin behind him he's been a revelation, and he carried that on yesterday.

I feel sorry for Harding-he's currently the 'dog's bollocks' at the club, yet the boy CAN play football.
mortonjag 2009-01-18 15:26:13
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 18 2009, 02:50 PM) [snapback]566047[/snapback]
The first one that sparked the stramash was as good a save as I've seen, absolutely astonishing. If the ball had gone out of play from it instead of getting cleared off the line another 4 or 5 times in the after-math I would have been applauding it almost like a goal!!
I can't really see how Cuthbert can be a MotM candidate to be honest, he never done anything that you wouldn't have expected him to do, and he almost cost us the game with his fumble at the end, it's just lucky he got a poor decision in his favour. Being perfectly honest, I don't rightly see the fuss with Cuthbert, he's lost more than a few sloppy goals and never really done anything remarkable.

In the first half, we were by far the dominant force in the game, but yet again our manager has failed to capitalise on it, allowing Dundee to get on top, and when that happened he was unable to counter it. Again, having decent players gets us by, but when a little tweaking is needed, it 9 times out of ten fails to materialise - indeed, the odd time Irons does decide to make a change, it works against us.

Alex Walker had a good game at right back, Smith for once looked half-decent on the left. Greacen was yet again magnificent, McManus also had a good game and I can only presume he had picked up an injury.

McGuffie was decent enough, I suppose, but needs to develop a pair of balls, lost count of the amount of tackles he shirked, at times he'd be as well just wearing a camoflauge suit - people say Stevenson has no fight, but he is no worse than McGuffie, and has far more ability. Masterton yet again had a good game, Finlayson yet again industrious on the right and made a decent contribution even if his crossing wasn't always great. On the other side, McAlister was invisible again, he must be dropped, or rather, we must acquire an alternative option.

Up front, Wake got through a power of work, made the defenders work and looked to bring others in to play. Weatherson returned to form also, having obviously decided that 2 decent performances in a row is enough and entitles him to stroll about the pitch doing f*** all.
The ref wasn't too bad, but made a couple of pretty poor calls including the foul against Greacen. That said though, I could deal with having him every week compared to the usual wasters.


I gather you're not very fond of Cuthbert. Whether you like it or not, he DID keep us in the game yesterday.

I agree with most of the rest, but don't be too hard on Jimbo who was tracking back like a madman for 75% of the game.
mortonjag 2009-01-18 15:28:56
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 18 2009, 03:18 PM) [snapback]566066[/snapback]
Perhaps he'll be making way for a 'first choice forward' to come in. Or would that be too much to hope for?

Almost certainly!

If Irons offloads a guy who CAN play on the wing, I'll personally castrate him. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-18 15:34:23
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 18 2009, 03:27 PM) [snapback]566073[/snapback]
Who should be taken from the team to accommodate him though?

Stu's had a hard time of it, in all honesty, and I'm pleased to see him get back to form in recent weeks.

I agree-Irons is obsessed with central defenders-or at least that was the case pre season and financially it's come back to bite him in the bum.

I wish Ryan could find another 1st Division Club as I'm sure the boy wants his football, but he can sit tight at Scapa if he wants.
mortonjag 2009-01-18 15:47:46
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jan 18 2009, 02:36 PM) [snapback]566040[/snapback]
Aye, but he was half-asleep (good), had stopped crying (good), and would be back in bed in 15mins (acceptable).

If I'd smacked him he'd have been fully awake (bad), crying (bad), and with no chance of being back asleep in 15 mins (also bad). Not to mention I'd be living in fear of a lynching from the PC brigade .

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mortonjag 2009-01-18 15:52:38
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 18 2009, 03:31 PM) [snapback]566076[/snapback]
Not get taught how to read at them proper universities? wink.gif

I was taught how to read before I went to a proper primary school son.

Maybe that's where you went wrong! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-18 15:56:03 Talking of Irn Bru-the Tims just got humpt! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-18 16:00:07
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jan 18 2009, 03:58 PM) [snapback]566087[/snapback]
Russelll or Deuchar? Now let me think ...................... rolleyes.gif

Stick to the attainable Anus.
mortonjag 2009-01-18 16:05:11
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 18 2009, 04:02 PM) [snapback]566090[/snapback]
MJ, do you constantly sit and think of things to start on this board.

No wonder the Nonsense board has went to the Dogs.
I'll get ma coat

Shaggy or smooth?
mortonjag 2009-01-18 16:07:47
QUOTE(Malt @ Jan 18 2009, 04:04 PM) [snapback]566091[/snapback]
Dr D is SPL bound!

We might be lucky and get David Bingham or something till the end of the season laugh.gif

spellbound?
mortonjag 2009-01-18 17:13:49
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 18 2009, 04:20 PM) [snapback]566104[/snapback]
Again, to say he kept us in the game is for me an over-statement. Douglas kept Dundee in the game with a handful of tremendous saves, Cuthbert done no more or less than you would expect for any goalkeeper. I'm not sure doing the basics can really constitute "keeping us in the game", although I suppose when you consider we had Lee Robinson last season... rolleyes.gif

And McAlister was trracking back like a madman because he was too busy drifitng into the middle and deserting his post. Another one that would be as well with a camouflage suit.

That's patently daft-one thing that boy does not do is hide!



QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 18 2009, 04:53 PM) [snapback]566133[/snapback]
You didn't, but a lot of people do for some reason.
I have nothing against McAlister - indeed, I think he could go on to be a right good player - but there is a myth that has built up around him that is quite unfathomable.


I agree with everything you say about Jimbo apart from your comment above.
mortonjag 2009-01-18 17:17:36
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jan 17 2009, 12:46 PM) [snapback]565461[/snapback]
I initially thought it was an appalling effort at a joke based on a stunningly obvious play on words. mellow.gif

laugh.gifHowever, I now realise it was a cunningly subtle work of comedy genius which only someone with the IQ of MortonJag could appreciate. smile.gif

ph34r.gif



Don't get carried away with yourself-it was a rather mundane pun and well ahead of the standard normally attempted by our run of the mill posters! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-18 17:19:27
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Jan 18 2009, 04:59 PM) [snapback]566138[/snapback]
Was it the guy who kept going on about everyone being gay and/or a pedo laugh.gif ?

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NO!
mortonjag 2009-01-18 17:28:16
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 18 2009, 04:08 PM) [snapback]566096[/snapback]
Why is this not in the general nonsense forum, another reason why this forum doesn't work.

Because I'm not in the slightest interested in the early memories of a shower of weans, PC f*nnies, and POUFFES. mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-18 17:37:57


QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 18 2009, 04:58 PM) [snapback]566137[/snapback]
I'm not gay. But my boyfriend is.

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mortonjag 2009-01-18 17:41:04
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 18 2009, 05:32 PM) [snapback]566168[/snapback]
The nly 2 people that were never allowed in here were deego and PrincessTon, FFS there was guys registering days after this forum opened and asking to get in and guess what being allowed, since then you could count the posts they have made on one hand.

It was a disaster right from the start, no disrespect to the guys running it but the rules on entry should have been a lot tougher.

Forget that and show me the jobby video again! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-18 17:46:53
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Jan 18 2009, 05:23 PM) [snapback]566162[/snapback]
Where were you sitting ohmy.gif

On my arse!
mortonjag 2009-01-18 17:53:50
QUOTE(Savo @ Jan 18 2009, 05:24 PM) [snapback]566164[/snapback]
Mate had to pay £10 in for his wee lad (who is about eight) and you just think to yourself, who can possibly justify such a ridiculous admission price?

£17 for an adult to get in as well is a joke to watch players of moderate ability - at best.

Nice of them to open only two gates too.

No one wonder crowds are dwindling steadily around the country. Clubs are running themselves into the ground.

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Two Bovrils = £3.20 and a total rip off, but just to prove that Ton supporters are helpful I proffered £10.20. That was met with a blank stare and 'What was it you ordered'?

'Two Bovrils'!

'But that's just £3.20'


...and she looked SO f*ckin' puzzled that I just took the twenty pence piece back, and allowed the till to help her with the change!!!!! DOH! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-18 18:00:35
QUOTE(tom @ Jan 18 2009, 05:37 PM) [snapback]566173[/snapback]
He's a "kid on" player. No loss at all. World record holder for offsides against. That said, we need a replacement.

...and what exactly is a 'kid on' player when he's at home.

He certainly wasn't telling any lies at Brechin.

As far as 'offside' is concerned, it takes two to tango.
mortonjag 2009-01-18 18:12:50
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Jan 18 2009, 05:44 PM) [snapback]566178[/snapback]
We will go down if people always see the glass is half full like you are. We are doing well at the moment, enjoy it. Instead of posting negative pish waiting for the day when you can cream yourself going 'Oh I told you so'.

We will stay up or go down irrespective of valid opinions posted here.

What Capuan stated is factually correct.
mortonjag 2009-01-18 18:21:21 Only eleven days left and counting!
mortonjag 2009-01-18 18:44:51
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 18 2009, 06:30 PM) [snapback]566198[/snapback]
I'm working tomorrow evening. I am unsure as to my plans tomorrow afternoon.

Kelvingrove Park?
mortonjag 2009-01-18 18:47:20
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jan 18 2009, 06:34 PM) [snapback]566202[/snapback]
is that why you were quiet....saves talking out of it!!!!!

That must rate as the most brilliant riposte ever recorded on this wee massage board.

Give the man a banana! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-18 18:56:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 18 2009, 06:48 PM) [snapback]566212[/snapback]
Is that relevant or did you feel the need to spout any old pish?
I know you can't control yourself...

Just wondered if you were into letting somebody try your midfield! offtopic.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-18 19:00:20
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 18 2009, 06:31 PM) [snapback]566199[/snapback]
I have to disagree that there's been any transformation in Stewart Greacen's performances. For me he's been the exact same player since he joined Morton, uncompromising, winning headers and tackles, covering for his taem mates and doing what it takes for the team. This meant covering for unnatural full backs and inept partners who had nowhere near the same commitment. In other words he was having to do it all on his own.

For me the only difference is Davie Irons bringing in some much needed back-up in the form of Dom Shimmin, Chris Smith and to a lesser extent Alan McManus. When Shimmin was showing his qualities at the start of the season and Greacen was out injured, I told everyone who would listen we would have the best centre half partnership in the division when Greacen came back, with Greacen just playing his usual game, no more, no less.

He's the same player he's always been, you just need to open your eyes a bit more.

...and often making a complete arse of himself in the process DOT. I agree entirely with your sentiments, but be honest-when Stu's head was down along with his confidence, his game went to pieces.
mortonjag 2009-01-18 19:03:18
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 18 2009, 06:45 PM) [snapback]566208[/snapback]
Your imagination, paranoia and persecution complex know no bounds it seems. laugh.gif

'postulations' would alliterate better Mr Edwards!
mortonjag 2009-01-18 19:54:55
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 18 2009, 07:41 PM) [snapback]566243[/snapback]
Don't men's postulate glands get bigger as they grow older?

I see you're getting the massage.
mortonjag 2009-01-18 19:58:45
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 18 2009, 07:23 PM) [snapback]566235[/snapback]
I wont have posted them if the forum was being used and ran properly, the forum fits no real purpose, anyone can get in and the stuff thats posted would be better fit on the g/n board.

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General nonsense for grumpy tits posts! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-18 20:05:56
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 18 2009, 07:18 PM) [snapback]566232[/snapback]
We all used to comment that Greacen and Harding were terrible playing together. I think we now know what the problem part of that combination was.

I think the whole team has been transformed since the end of the first quarter. We still lack goals, but the overall perfomance and results have been improved tremendously, and the defence has been inspired at times. Good Work, Davy Irons and Derek Collins.

You may think you know-I suggest that's utterly naive.

QUOTE(suda @ Jan 18 2009, 07:50 PM) [snapback]566245[/snapback]
Grecean has flourished next to Dom, he's always had the talent just needed a calming influence next to him. The exact same could be said of Harding, in fact I think he's got the potential to be better than both Dom and Grecean. That might sound controversial as the results when Grecean and Harding played together were varied but neither was the dominant defender and they didn't work well as a pair. I think Harding could easily get 1st team football in this league or possibly higher next to a different centre half. McManus is in the twighlight of his career and is really only temporary cover,I thought he was tiring yesterday before he went off although he did ok for 70 mins.


Precisely-any time Hardy played without Stu-which was rarely-he was absolutely fine. They just did not suit each other.
mortonjag 2009-01-18 20:10:27
QUOTE(suda @ Jan 18 2009, 07:54 PM) [snapback]566250[/snapback]
that's true but we are much more solid defensively at the moment and the midfield contributes to that but I'd like to see an attacking option given freedom to create, we all would and I think that could be Russell. The defensive side just comes down to back tracking and fitness that can be taught. It's clear Kevin can't be taught how to beat a man and put a cross in.

So far as I can see Irons rates duff 'wingers' more highly than proper wingers IF they're good at back tracking. He's doing quite well in building his 'hard to beat' squad, but we desperately need more attacking options if we're going to present a real threat instead of staying comfortably in mid-table.
mortonjag 2009-01-18 20:20:02
QUOTE(suda @ Jan 18 2009, 08:02 PM) [snapback]566255[/snapback]
If you think Irons is making that many mistakes I believe he is putting himself up for 'debate' with the fans in the near future, why don't you test your skills against a man with a proven track record in his chosen proffesion I'm sure the exchange of ideas would be benificial to our performances.

I take it that what you really mean my friend is that you think you're entitled to voice your opinions and criticisms, while I am not.

For what it's worth, I was one of very few who consistently stated that Spoonsy was NEVER a full back and should be played as a striker. That's just one example of something which was GLARINGLY OBVIOUS to me despite the fact that most of the sheep on here went along with JM's pish! JM of course also had vast experience! laugh.gif

This proven track record in his chosen profession (single 'f' BTW!) and sorry to be pedantic but I AM trained in literacy-would you like to tabulate his curriculum vitae in order that we may all drool in admiration? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-18 20:27:13
QUOTE(suda @ Jan 18 2009, 08:20 PM) [snapback]566261[/snapback]
to be fair to Irons he's got a winning formula playing the way he is, one tweek would be worth the gamble for a few games to see if it helps the balance of the team and makes us more attacking. And I wouldn't knock any of the current team by calling them duff they're just being used for different reasons at the moment, but hey they don't read this board anyway and Irons has them believing in themselves so you batter on.

Good for you-Jimbo and Kev are DUFF wingers-that is universally acknowledged, but by all means batter on trying to discredit Jag for merely stating his opinions. It isn't really worth it you know, because they ARE only opinions-which begs the question-what's your real agenda? thumbdown.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-18 20:36:29
QUOTE(suda @ Jan 18 2009, 08:29 PM) [snapback]566267[/snapback]
Nope not at all, but your being critical of a man who has offered debate on a face to face basis, he's not able to come on here and defend his decisions but I'm sure he could easily explain to you what he's trying to do and the reasons for his decision making.

Well done on noticing Spoonsy was a striker have you any tips for him to maintain his motivation and fitness so that he doesn't fall into the same slump he was in when he was moved to full back?

And I bow down to your superior knowledge of literacy and spelling pity it won't help us in any way.

Suda-let me ask you a serious question.

What is the purpose of an unofficial fans forum?

If I decide to call DI the devil incarnate on here, that is my bloody prerogative.

This board has been plagued by sycophantic fuds from day one.

Do you really imagine for one minute that Irons is going to go home after his Shoogly style road show, full of bright new ideas. If you do, you must be even dafter than his tactics! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-19 09:35:14
QUOTE(suda @ Jan 18 2009, 08:46 PM) [snapback]566276[/snapback]
They allow people to vent their opinion to whoever is reading, the only people who value them are the ones vain enough to think their opinion matters - nobody else reads them.

Yes you can say what you like batter on I'm not trying to stop you.

I take it you won't be going to have an adult two way debate with the man then? There's no precedent from you bottling it there then is there?

Well let me tell you something which you clearly need to know. ALL opinions matter, and having and believing in a considered opinion is fundamental to all human interactions.

It's perfectly obvious that opinions voiced on this wee massage board are CLEARLY heard at Cappielow-there are three or four insiders who post regularly for a start (and attack all who dare to criticise while they're at it!), and Shoogly himself has suggested that we contact him directly rather than 'mumping' here. laugh.gif

I'm totally uninterested in what you perceive as 'an adult two way debate'-something I prefer to see as little more than a variation of the annual Shoogly Show farce. Aye, it might make you feel good to ask questions and get answers, but rest assured, NOTHING will change on account of yet another 'appease the punters' fest.

One final point-try to find ways of raising your own self esteem-your opinion DOES matter and it's not vain to believe so.
mortonjag 2009-01-19 09:45:35
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 19 2009, 09:21 AM) [snapback]566413[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Genius! Anyways, vikingTON is 18, there is no excuse for studying and messageboard shenanigans when he has a cherry to pop.

I'm free! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-19 09:57:08
QUOTE(suda @ Jan 18 2009, 08:34 PM) [snapback]566268[/snapback]
Sorry didn't realise you were scouring that far a field for opinions. I'm not trying to discredit you at all my friend you read me all wrong. Why would anybody use a forum like this to try and drive an agenda? That would be a bit pathetic would it not?

Indeed, and as I've just mentioned in another post replying to yours there are posters on this massage board who have a VERY CLEAR agenda, and that is to defend the club to the hilt even if it means regular and distasteful personal attacks on those who dare to criticise.

I like banter, and enjoy takin' the piss and having the piss taken. I DON'T enjoy being personally attacked for my opinions, especially when they are patently far more valuable than anybody elses. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-19 10:04:18
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 19 2009, 01:22 AM) [snapback]566376[/snapback]
I couldn't disagree more.

There was a time when Greacen was an absolute bombscare. Constantly mistiming his jumps for headers, getting dragged out into the channels and diving into tackles and headers by going to ground too early rather than staying on his feet.

If you can't see there's been a change in Greacen - probably brought on by the confidence he's gained playing alongside Shimmin - then I'd say you need to open your eyes.

Indeed!

People have very short memories. Nothing would surprise me less than the scenario where DI is forced to play Hardy in front of Dom and he plays out of his skin-so well in fact that he again becomes a regular and the fans latest cult hero! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-19 10:12:58 Ghostie, I can't praise a smallish ISP, Plusnet, highly enough. We were with AOL-a bloody nightmare, and tried to switch to BT. Things went badly wrong and we found their customer service disgraceful-the usual Call Centre in India etc., etc. Eventually we got £150 in compensation but that's another story.

Plusnet have been superb-no frills-no fancy graphics and pop ups-just an honest and efficient service with faultless feedback and customer service from their all British team.

We recently transferred our phone to them from BT too-it's much cheaper and every bit as good.

I'd never recommend a service supplier unless I had full confidence.
mortonjag 2009-01-19 10:16:20 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Aye-two good guys with a decent sense of humour-many happy returns.
Strange to think that VT is older than GG! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-19 10:26:54
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 19 2009, 12:24 AM) [snapback]566352[/snapback]
I think you're confused again Dr Pangloss. My heart is on my sleeve, whereas I fear that your head is up your arse.
I realise your difficulty but if you'd just try and concentrate and think for a while then I'm sure you might see a benefit. I'd imagine that the first stage (extracting the cranium from the anus) would be the most painful and traumatic. But after that, well feck knows, even if you don't have the will, at least you'll have the sensory capabilities to receive and consider an alternative view.
And good night to you.

Extracting the cranium THROUGH the anus, Mr Edwards! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-19 11:04:51
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jan 19 2009, 10:42 AM) [snapback]566464[/snapback]
Fixed it for you Shirley.
rolleyes.gif

You fixed nothing-merely identified yourself yet again as as having an obsessive anti Jag agenda, and demonstrated my point beautifully. laugh.gif

mortonjag 2009-01-19 11:07:20
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jan 19 2009, 10:31 AM) [snapback]566460[/snapback]
Hilarious stuff ! laugh.gif

I see you are easily amused.

WHY do you find that hilarious?
mortonjag 2009-01-19 11:18:57
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 19 2009, 12:18 AM) [snapback]566349[/snapback]
The problem is that far too many people bitch, whine and complain to mods about almost anything they don't like reading on the main boards. In here their moans will by and large be disregarded. I think you'll find the likes of Edwards and McArthur are more than happy not to have to read the s*** that's posted in here.

Now, as you are all moaning about this board, I can confirm that I don't give a f*** as I ignore any and all complaints. TiD may be more helpful..... but I doubt it.

Exactly-a shower of pathetic bleating sanctimonious cowardly POUFFES who think they can say what they like and then censor the valid ripostes of their superiors.

I'd thrash every one within an inch of it's miserable existence before mincing them alive and delivering the puree to Shoogly to add to his Soor Plooms.
mortonjag 2009-01-19 11:43:43
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 19 2009, 09:18 AM) [snapback]566410[/snapback]
and whilst we are at it, I can also remember people moaning about the content on this forum because they were accessing this forum from work, another joke in my opinion, you know the type of forum it is so it's not rocket science that you you don't access it from work or if you do you don't clink on any link.

People should be bloody well WORKING at work. The NSFW moderation is frankly an indictment of our modern society, and I think it's a disgrace that our Mods have bought into it, instead of making it clear that folk sometimes have to take responsibility for their own actions rather than be protected by official accessories to their immoral behaviour! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(hayfever @ Jan 19 2009, 09:29 AM) [snapback]566421[/snapback]
Exactly. That's the reason the forum was created geniuses...

Really!

That seems complete nonsense. The thing all blew up out of ridiculous and heavy handed moderation of that totally tongue in cheek POUFFE comment. It was obvious that the main board was plagued by whinging weans. GKR apparently was subjected to the same sh*te as soon as he took over!

I like this forum because I can post with relative impunity, in the knowledge that those with agendas can't touch me-and DON'T tell me they are in my imagination. Only this morning Real Hoops has attacked me out of the blue-for NO other reason than that he hates somebody he doesn't even know. Sometimes it gets wearing, especially when I know that posters of a certain genre will resort to clyping only when their own frequently unacceptable personal attacks fail to cut any ice! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-19 12:00:02
QUOTE(suda @ Jan 19 2009, 11:35 AM) [snapback]566484[/snapback]
I'm not attacking you and I know your not suggesting that I am, that would be paranoid.

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Well that may be true, and I never had you labelled as a Shooglyphile.

You did, however, have a go at me for daring to criticise the Manager, claiming that 'he can't defend himself' on this massage board. This forum is none of his bloody business.

I'm more than happy to have my valid opinions countered-ridiculed even-by a logical counter argument, but I certainly don't need to be lectured for using the forum entirely appropriately.
mortonjag 2009-01-19 12:04:10
QUOTE(Capuan @ Jan 19 2009, 11:59 AM) [snapback]566488[/snapback]
www.Ijobbiedmyself.com

for your pleasure...
ph34r.gif

I want more jobbies RIGHT HERE! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-19 13:55:44
QUOTE(togib @ Jan 19 2009, 01:14 PM) [snapback]566519[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-01-19 13:57:15
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 19 2009, 01:04 PM) [snapback]566514[/snapback]
Is it racist to call the postman a postie ?

only if the stamps are *potential ethnic slur removed* brown.
mortonjag 2009-01-19 14:03:09
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 19 2009, 01:30 PM) [snapback]566525[/snapback]
Hello,

Just incase you weren't aware the Scottish Sun has a life-size andy Murray mask which you can cut out and wear by cutting the eye holes and mouth hole out whilst you are cheering Andy on in the Australian open.

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mortonjag 2009-01-19 14:07:16
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jan 19 2009, 09:45 AM) [snapback]566437[/snapback]
Just curious as to what is happening with him will he be back or not? He showed some promise at times but he is commited to morton that much is clear for what ever reason. I hope we know sooner rather than later as it will be a wage bill that could be utilised on another player

He added definite width and linked well. Also capable of putting a decent cross over.

I was thinking about Jon Newby at Dundee on Saturday and in particular about the view of his 'unforgivable' miss which Irons would have got from the dugout. I still think Irons got that badly wrong!
mortonjag 2009-01-19 14:13:32
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 19 2009, 12:19 PM) [snapback]566494[/snapback]
That still cracks me up.
He was funny the first few times but got a bit tedious after that. Gave him the benefit of the doubt as he was pished.

It's a funny old world when you can be banned from an unofficial footie forum for calling somebody a POUFFE in total jest, yet somebody can let rip at opposition players with the polis two rows behind him and nothing happens.

Wonder what would have happened if the drunken clown had directed his same nonsense at the black boy on their right wing! dry.gif

I realise he didn't mean any offence-is that all that matters?
mortonjag 2009-01-19 14:17:18
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 19 2009, 01:58 PM) [snapback]566538[/snapback]
http://news.uk.msn.com/odd-news/Article.as...mentid=12981022

Could feel her pain ,we had similar problems with an oven from Argos although to be fair to the manager at Greenock he issued us a new one after we had 3 separate call outs for different faults and 2 out of 3 months without a working oven.

Mind you I was still geting phone calls from their head office informing me the parts were still unavailable for 3 months after the replacement arrived. rolleyes.gif

After the engineer and Mrs Fox agreed to end the stand-off by calling the police, the situation was resolved amicably when the former agreed to hump the ugly bitch for free. In addition, Currys have since supplied Mrs Fox with a new washing machine.
mortonjag 2009-01-19 15:32:56
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jan 19 2009, 02:47 PM) [snapback]566563[/snapback]
I honestly dont believe we would have made the same progress under any of John Swinney, Bill Wilson Roseanna Cunningham, or Fergus Ewing, all of whom challenged for the leadership in the last few years.
Eck has commanded respect above and beyond the snp membership.
I disagree on all points there Davie.
As a member, if something happened to Eck, id be happy for sturgeon to take over, or Angus Robertson.
also, a scottish westminister poll today puts both Labour and the Snp both on 30%, roughly 17 mps apiece.
also, you find sometimes that the snp, are not named in westminister polls, only under other, which leads some to believe they are not involved in the polls

Out of the frying pan into the fire with that hirsute joke! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-19 15:35:35
QUOTE(Muz @ Jan 19 2009, 02:27 PM) [snapback]566556[/snapback]
Come on mate, he was marked out of the game on Saturday. He had 2-3 guys on him every time he went near the ball.

I didnt think there were any failures on Saturday. And that's not me just defending Weatherson wink.gif

I thought he worked hard and was unlucky with a couple of shots. He needs somebody to link with him and Wakey's not the answer I'm afraid.
mortonjag 2009-01-19 16:09:41
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 19 2009, 03:59 PM) [snapback]566590[/snapback]
If Eck was bumped off a la David Kelly, I would suggest that there are a number of potential replacements, including angus Robertson and Stuart Hosie from the Westminster MPs, and Richard Lochhead from the MSPs. Alex Salmond would be a hard act to follow as he has charisma by the bucketload - incidentally I have met him a few times and he is exceptionally good at talking to people on a one to one basis - if you have formed your opinion from watching him at FMQ or other TV appearances, I think you might be pleasantly surprised if you actually met him face to face. I also met Jack McConnell once and he was a sleekiit shifty individual, a nobody by comparison.

I was at school with Annabel Goldie-well her big brother was in my class but I found her to be an entirely charming girl.
mortonjag 2009-01-19 16:13:51 Hmm-this should be interesting. I'll be surprised if he nets more than five between now and the end of the season.
mortonjag 2009-01-19 16:26:05
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 19 2009, 04:21 PM) [snapback]566600[/snapback]
I think that while McManus is nowhere near the quality of Greacen and Shimmin and isn't good enough to be a regular, he's a capable 3rd choice when he's needed. I alywas panic a bit when the ball goes near him due to remembering the first few games of the season, but he's played well whenever he's been needed since then, and I thought he was solid on Saturday.

The main problem I think is that he always seem to make one mistake a game, and sometimes that's fatal. For example at Livingston he'd had a really good game and defended well, but he fluffed a simple header, it fell to one of their players and 10 seconds later they'd scored. I'm much more confident in him than Harding though.

Anyway, Greacen has been immense. Long may it continue. biggrin.gif

Provided Stu can retain his current form, I'd have McManus behind him every time Dom is unavailable. I reckon he's getting an unfair press because of earlier blunders. He's experienced, reads the game well, and certainly ain't finished at this level.
mortonjag 2009-01-19 16:27:16
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Jan 19 2009, 04:25 PM) [snapback]566601[/snapback]
Snow unsure.gif

balls? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-19 17:40:38
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 19 2009, 05:14 PM) [snapback]566634[/snapback]
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...-.--. / ---..-/-.--.-/ .....- thumbup2.gif angel.gif smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-19 19:28:26

QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 19 2009, 06:46 PM) [snapback]566692[/snapback]
Doctors and Morton don't seem to meet happy bedfellows laugh.gif



I wonder if Shoogly would have tried to bribe him the way Millstone did.

Kenneth my good chap-if you score a winning goal this afternoon, you may have a shot of my son's Jaguar whether he likes it or not.

I think Deuchar's a greedy big piece of keech who needs brought down to earth. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-19 19:33:11
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jan 19 2009, 07:19 PM) [snapback]566715[/snapback]
I must admit, this part of the forum has not lived up to my (high) expectations. Most of the stuff could easily be on general nonsense. It's been a bit boring. ph34r.gif

Very true Mrs T, and it will only get better if we: the Jesse Boys and Girls want it to.

I think it went downhill the minute they stopped posting jobby videos! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-19 19:37:14
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 19 2009, 05:47 PM) [snapback]566650[/snapback]
T'was but a joke David, everyone on here is very nice and I love them all. wub.gif

Mince!

There are several pieces of unadultered keech.

I hasten to add that I don't include your goodself, who from time to time demonstrates a modicum of wit and bonhomie! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-19 19:39:52
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jan 19 2009, 05:49 PM) [snapback]566652[/snapback]
alibi i agree about angus robertson, but cant possibly agree about lochhead. He is in the cabinet so should be an equal to the likes of swinney and sturgeon, but you dont get that impression.
Salmond is quite reasonable to talk to, especially given the demanding nature of some older snp members.

MJ, a few years back me and my pals went through a phase of pranking people by saying we were from scottish water at crazy hours of the night, telling them to test their water.
we got goldies hoose number from the phonebook and she was very complicit in flushing her toilet for us at 3 am. there is a recording of it floating about somewhere.

i have always been quite impressed by her, feel sorry for her because think she gets some rash people in her party calling for her head, and she suffers from a but of homophobia

Really-I'm convinced she's a dyke herself, and I like her.
mortonjag 2009-01-19 19:50:26
QUOTE(togib @ Jan 19 2009, 07:03 PM) [snapback]566704[/snapback]
she's standing up there on a hill directing it in with 2 orange paddles dowza happy.gif
how do you get a female weather man??


Bring him back?

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mortonjag 2009-01-19 19:56:20 It could be genuine! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-19 19:58:41
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jan 19 2009, 07:46 PM) [snapback]566744[/snapback]
I don't like jobby videos, maybe something to do with beeing a mother and s***ty nappies. wink.gif

Would you prefer videos of folk pissing-I'm sure Mr MidTONs can locate a few-maybe some of them will have interesting willies and f*nn**s! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-19 20:01:12
QUOTE(Deego @ Jan 19 2009, 07:59 PM) [snapback]566757[/snapback]
Feel sorry for the guy. All the best to him.

Our thoughts are with the family.
mortonjag 2009-01-19 20:03:22
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 19 2009, 08:00 PM) [snapback]566759[/snapback]
midTONs plys Tricks with drink all night before dipping his back pocket and fecking off with his wallet. wub.gif

..and is shocked to find within porny pictures of Trick and Boozie's burd.
mortonjag 2009-01-19 20:05:52
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 19 2009, 08:04 PM) [snapback]566763[/snapback]
but is even more shocked at the size of the c**k on Boozie's burd. unsure.gif
fecking swear filter d0 your tree in.

Is that willy or phanny?

Edit-oh I see you've now specified it's a badger tadger.
mortonjag 2009-01-19 20:10:01 WDE went into uncle Arnolds last week and said 'Can you give me an ashtray for my car'?

The parts man took one look and replied-'Aye son-it's a deal'!
mortonjag 2009-01-19 20:11:33
QUOTE(Deego @ Jan 19 2009, 08:02 PM) [snapback]566761[/snapback]
mad.gif

Yours may be, but mine certainly aren't.

Where are yours dear-half way up that Morrison guys bum?
mortonjag 2009-01-19 20:13:22
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Jan 19 2009, 08:08 PM) [snapback]566766[/snapback]
Midtons, what would you know, ya fat baldy excuse for a retard!
Right thats me got it started, let some proper old fashioned character defamation commence!
Jim - all in jest mate, please reciprocate! rolleyes.gif

Leave the poor c*nt alone -he's already got RSI!
mortonjag 2009-01-19 20:14:25
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Jan 19 2009, 08:09 PM) [snapback]566767[/snapback]
C^nt flaps

Use a safety pin then.
mortonjag 2009-01-19 20:16:47
QUOTE(Deego @ Jan 19 2009, 08:15 PM) [snapback]566775[/snapback]
mad.gif

Who? Andy?

Don't be daft-that singer guy oot the Sniffs.
mortonjag 2009-01-19 20:19:44 There are so many amazing folk on here with every answer to the current financial crisis.

It makes me feel humble! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-19 20:21:11
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 19 2009, 08:18 PM) [snapback]566780[/snapback]
I wish, it's a cracking riposte.

Like Masterton did on Saturday?
mortonjag 2009-01-19 20:29:35
QUOTE(Yoda @ Jan 19 2009, 08:25 PM) [snapback]566790[/snapback]
That'll be a first laugh.gif Seriously though, I don't know whether or not my thoughts are answers, I doubt that they are, but they are a few of the questions I would like answered. Maybe I should write to my MP?

Perhaps the treasury could employ Fing and his nail gun to scare some sense into the banks? Surely he must be available for private hire?

laugh.gif

Fing's away on a heist but maybe his pal here could drum some sense into those greedy capitalists.

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mortonjag 2009-01-19 20:31:06
QUOTE(Deego @ Jan 19 2009, 08:24 PM) [snapback]566789[/snapback]
My mate had problems with his today.

If he wants to PM me I'll try to help him-in strictest confidence of course.
mortonjag 2009-01-19 20:33:07
QUOTE(Deego @ Jan 19 2009, 08:18 PM) [snapback]566781[/snapback]
mortonjag, I think centralTON and myself will need to have a 'discussion' about this with you one day. sleep.gif

If you're threatening me with a good humping-I'm yer man!
mortonjag 2009-01-19 20:34:04
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 19 2009, 08:19 PM) [snapback]566784[/snapback]
The only thing Newby's added to at Cappielow is the wage bill.

Whose fault is that? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-19 20:36:12
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Jan 19 2009, 08:26 PM) [snapback]566791[/snapback]
Poll done - please vote - your board needs you!
I'm not clever enough to make up sweary words, can I have real ones on this forum please?
Cheers Mods. Love you!

The result is a f***in' foregone conclusion!
mortonjag 2009-01-19 20:39:32
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Jan 19 2009, 08:20 PM) [snapback]566785[/snapback]
This thread reminds me of basic training!
I was subjected to that pish for a month solid! I thought I had got rid of the memories, but you bunch of old decrepit bar stewards have brought them all back to the surface. I hope you all die a slow painful death by having all yer pubes ripped out one by one until you bleed to death. Damn you all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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mortonjag 2009-01-19 20:40:43
QUOTE(togib @ Jan 19 2009, 08:36 PM) [snapback]566802[/snapback]
... - - - ...

I suppose you think that's ....---...! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-19 20:46:00 I once had a teacher called Symington and he was a proper SH*T so hell mend them.
mortonjag 2009-01-19 20:52:28 Auntie Fanny has s*** all over her c**t!


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mortonjag 2009-01-19 20:54:53
QUOTE(moneton!!! @ Jan 19 2009, 08:53 PM) [snapback]566812[/snapback]
Eurosport

Not Alba then!!! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-19 20:56:00
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 19 2009, 08:54 PM) [snapback]566813[/snapback]
Agreed, it's not the place...it's the people.

...people who seem to think it's more about the place tend to be tossers
smile.gif

We have agreement on something at last! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-19 20:57:00
QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Jan 19 2009, 08:37 PM) [snapback]566804[/snapback]
Why do you want to know, I can ask him.

How long will the reply take? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-19 20:59:39
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Jan 19 2009, 08:58 PM) [snapback]566820[/snapback]
I better head off to the pub then in case I get snowed in tomorrow.

Put the wellies on backwards and you'll get peace!
mortonjag 2009-01-19 21:02:52
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 19 2009, 09:01 PM) [snapback]566825[/snapback]
Are you trying to say i am old? ohmy.gif

You look young and beautiful, your Majesty.
mortonjag 2009-01-19 21:06:49
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 19 2009, 09:04 PM) [snapback]566829[/snapback]
You know it's true. tongue.gif

Not that I'm being in the slightest critical, but I'd have preferred a different shade of eye shadow!
mortonjag 2009-01-19 21:51:49
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 19 2009, 09:08 PM) [snapback]566831[/snapback]
It's an old picture. wink.gif

Look forward to the latest version!
mortonjag 2009-01-19 21:53:23
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 19 2009, 09:20 PM) [snapback]566833[/snapback]
Going to Aberdeen at stupid o'clock in the morning and the rest of the week going across Elgin, Forres, Inverness, Tain, Fort William and Oban. Should see some spectacular scenery.

What type of transport do you use Peter?
mortonjag 2009-01-19 22:00:58
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 19 2009, 09:55 PM) [snapback]566852[/snapback]
I use a car Douglas. Although I have told my wife that I'm buying a tractor if we ever come into any money.

laugh.gif

Is it a British car Peter?
mortonjag 2009-01-19 22:21:54
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 19 2009, 10:03 PM) [snapback]566868[/snapback]
No, it's French.

laugh.gif I was sure it was you I spotted at Scapa recently!

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mortonjag 2009-01-19 22:24:22
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 19 2009, 10:22 PM) [snapback]566883[/snapback]
That was me.

How much are your onions?
mortonjag 2009-01-20 07:58:57 I thought the whole idea was to educate children to eat more healthily-NOT to make filling their greedy little bellies more of a challenge! ph34r.gif

So you think they've had their chips!
mortonjag 2009-01-20 08:06:07 Dear customer,

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(adapted from Google translator) and I still don't understand 'please follow a simple method of activation!!! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-20 08:44:00
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Jan 19 2009, 10:30 PM) [snapback]566888[/snapback]
hate how the jag is always in the midst of a topic going way off topic

anyway...

it was snowing earlier, but it is not lasting

Don't worry dear, you are not alone! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-20 08:48:48

QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 20 2009, 12:49 AM) [snapback]566935[/snapback]
I'm not going to pretend that I don't hardly know anything about economics and such, but surely RBS, one of Scotland's largest businesses, being 70% owned by the UK Government(have I got that figure right?) throws up a bit of a problem if we're talking about independence?
I'm veering towards the simple idea of finding those responsible and chopping their heads off. Not that punishing those to blame fixes the damage they've already caused, but at least they won't do any more damage.


Capitalist punishment has unfortunately been abolished.
mortonjag 2009-01-20 08:52:52
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jan 20 2009, 01:21 AM) [snapback]566947[/snapback]
New kids on the block...........

Actually....more like middle aged blokes on the block now but never mind

Nice guys...NOT

total wankers
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I hope they were not so disappointed in you! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-20 08:57:24
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Jan 19 2009, 11:41 PM) [snapback]566921[/snapback]
If that is what you call charisma then I just don't know anything anymore blink.gif

I have no care for politics but whenever I see that man on TV I cringe

He looks like a right smug faced a-hole who only cares about no.1, and I for one wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him (and judging by his current shape I doubt that would be very far at all)


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thumbdown.gif eek.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-20 09:00:06
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 20 2009, 08:16 AM) [snapback]566970[/snapback]
250 whole metres? So they will now be a 2 minute walk away? huh.gif

That won't even burn up the calories in the sauce! blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-20 09:09:56
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 20 2009, 08:56 AM) [snapback]566979[/snapback]
It looks as though Newby doesn't want to be here, Irons doesn't want him here and Douglas Rae said in programme notes he's not sure about Newby but he's still got hopes for Stevenson.

It looks as though personal difficulties led to the deal not working out, as well as what looks like poor man management from Davie Irons. It's a pity as Irons actually started the season by playing an attacking formation which utilised Newby's good positional play, 4-3-3 with Newby on the left, Russell on the right and Wake through the centre. It looked promising but you could soon see Newby's confidence go down as he weekly missed one on ones on several occasions.

I find it strange though that some players are dropped out of the picture pretty quickly if their performance level drops, yet others with similar loss of form are kept in the first team squad.
The only reason I can think of is that Iron's feels some players still give something to the team when off form, but he sees the likes of Newby and Stevenson as clear cut cases where they're an asset when on form and a liability when off form.

I think that's because DI is always concentrating on stopping the opposition from scoring rather than trying to score.
mortonjag 2009-01-20 09:13:22
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jan 20 2009, 09:01 AM) [snapback]566983[/snapback]
No thanks. rolleyes.gif

What WOULD you like then-pictures of whales shagging? blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-20 09:45:26
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 20 2009, 09:14 AM) [snapback]566991[/snapback]
I'm quite relieved in a way as I think Deuchars a bit over hyped and as a loan signing may have hogged too much limelight which would have been a distraction from what Iron's is trying to achieve.

I think Iron's has learned from some recent failed signings and is thinking things through more. He may have used the closed doors game to see if Deuchar's style suited us, or a similar player. If so it's good information to get for free. IMO it would have caused us to launch even more high balls towards the box.

Don't forget what experience Irons has is mainly based on coaching. He took over from Alexander when the cash flow diminished and the big signings had more less stopped, and was given no say in transfer dealings in any case.

The first transfer market dealings in his career took place at the start of this season and he's done reasonably well so I'd cut him some slack on that score.

He is a very inexperienced manager who has used up the budget to make us hard to beat. He's made several mistakes along the way, but it looks like we're now a difficult side to put one over. I have absolutely no fears about relegation, and I still believe that one good winger and one decent playmaker could see us challenging for a top three.
mortonjag 2009-01-20 09:47:01
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jan 20 2009, 09:17 AM) [snapback]566992[/snapback]
I don't really want to look at anyone/anything shagging. rolleyes.gif Maybe some handsome men? ph34r.gif

Wrong forum my dear! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-20 09:48:36
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 20 2009, 09:14 AM) [snapback]566990[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-01-20 10:15:03
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 20 2009, 09:56 AM) [snapback]567001[/snapback]
laugh.gif it's okay Frank. I must admit though, when the huge cake turned up at my door i fully expected you to jump out of it wearing a polka dot bikini. that was probably the most dissapointing aspect of my birthday. sad.gif

Frank's theme choon
mortonjag 2009-01-20 10:19:22
QUOTE(EBu @ Jan 20 2009, 10:13 AM) [snapback]567008[/snapback]
Check the small print, although it states no fair usage policy, if they consider your using too much bandwidth at peak times they will throttle your connection/fine you.

That's what I like about Plusnet-they constantly feedback if there's any chance of you over using-offer you the option to pay a small top up till the next billing IF YOU WANT.

You have instant access to all aspects of your account and any e-mailed queries are answered in jig time.

As I said, I can't praise them highly enough.
mortonjag 2009-01-20 10:26:17
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jan 20 2009, 10:15 AM) [snapback]567011[/snapback]
Were is the "Handsome Men" forum, is it another secret forum? More importantly, who from here are in it? unsure.gif

No my dear, I'm afraid I may have misled you. I meant you should be browsing elsewhere.

Mind you there are several posters on here who sound as though they'd gladly put themselves up for your delectation. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-20 10:39:36
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jan 20 2009, 10:29 AM) [snapback]567019[/snapback]
As long as they are handsome, then batter on. wub.gif

How's Willy Man those days?
mortonjag 2009-01-20 11:09:33
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jan 20 2009, 11:03 AM) [snapback]567029[/snapback]
I don't know, i think we are on a break. I'm giving him a chance to get a real wife, not just an internet one. smile.gif

Patience will hopefully be rewarded!

Did he ever shag that young thing he was bumming about BTW? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-20 11:19:27
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 20 2009, 10:58 AM) [snapback]567027[/snapback]
If this is intended to be funny, I think they have done a brilliant job. If on the other hand they are being serious (surely not?), then yes, that pink away strip will be a top seller in Maryhill.<a href="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gOlzMtfxjNs&feature=channel_page" target="_blank">
</a>

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gOlzMtfxjNs&...re=channel_page

It was quite amusing-more stereotypes!
mortonjag 2009-01-20 11:21:11
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jan 20 2009, 11:18 AM) [snapback]567033[/snapback]
Yes, so he said. rolleyes.gif

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-20 11:27:31 Every day we read things without really thinking about them.

I was just rummaging in the fridge there, and it struck me that we've bought FRESH eggs.

Are they more expensive than the normal ones? blink.gif

mortonjag 2009-01-20 12:37:32
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 20 2009, 12:08 PM) [snapback]567043[/snapback]
Thats because we were a goal away from being in the playoffs last season and didn't win a game in the first quarter of the season. Remember that Irons has only had one transfer window to make his mark on the team, this is his first full season. Im happy for us to be hard to beat these days, espescially since its almost a year since that fateful day against clyde. We're by no means a pretty team, we won't play all that much good football with the team we have but we're a hell of a lot better of right now on and off the park than we were 12 months ago.

edit to add: lets not forget that in Irons one transfer window he brought in Shimmin and Cuthbert. Shimmin who will be our first saleable asset that we have bought in god knows how long. He's also made Stuart Greacen a very competent defender at this level and under him Weatherson has finally became a feared first division striker. He's overseen a youth structure being put in place aswell.

Im happy with the outlook that Rome wasn't built in a day.

Or it COULD be because he has a mental block about the value of attack v defence.

Like you, I agree we're better off than this time last season.

If we'd signed an experienced manager, who knows where we'd be now.
mortonjag 2009-01-20 12:41:15
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 20 2009, 12:36 PM) [snapback]567050[/snapback]
Another? So what if he wanted to help out his friend in a bounce game, it doesn't make him the devil.

I love how when it comes to things like this Irons will get criticised more for playing deuchar in a bounce game than he got credit when he turned up for our game against QOS hours after his fathers funeral.

He got plenty of credit at the time. It was the sensible thing to do anyway as he lives in Dumfries, and it presumably helped to deflect his mind from the unhappiness for a few hours.
mortonjag 2009-01-20 12:44:59
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 20 2009, 12:12 PM) [snapback]567044[/snapback]
Dunno, but I do know that every fridge should have eggs in it. Fried, poached, scrambled, boiled (especially mashed up in a bowl with butter and a wee bit of salt), omelette, put through rice or noodles, glazing for your pastries - they're just quality.

Are you old enough to remember any of this? Go to work on an egg!
mortonjag 2009-01-20 12:46:30
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jan 20 2009, 12:13 PM) [snapback]567045[/snapback]
jag..you should be in that picture.....w**k

Any chance of rephrasing that in a comprehensible manner sweetie?
mortonjag 2009-01-20 12:47:45
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 20 2009, 12:14 PM) [snapback]567046[/snapback]
Mortonjag worked for The Sun?

Quite the reverse-mortonjag has full control of the solar system.
mortonjag 2009-01-20 12:50:08 This Abomo bloke is a politician.

Politicians are scumbags. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-20 12:51:18
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 20 2009, 12:45 PM) [snapback]567056[/snapback]
Sometimes I eat a lot of eggs but then sometimes I go for months without eating one. Same with cheese.

What about cheese and eggs-like cheesy scrambled eggs?
mortonjag 2009-01-20 12:52:10
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jan 20 2009, 12:51 PM) [snapback]567063[/snapback]
I've never eaten an egg (as in boiled,fried,poached,scrambled). Anything that smells so bad can't be good.

NEVER?
mortonjag 2009-01-20 12:53:58
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 20 2009, 12:49 PM) [snapback]567060[/snapback]
We'd be where we are now, exactly the level we could hope to be at this stage. 4th-7th in the league at best. We were a shambles and had to be rebuilt on and off the pitch. No manager in the world with all the experience in the world could turn us from 1st division cannon fodder to title challengers in less than 12 months.

I realise we are Greenock Morton, the mightiest and best team in all the land, so really we should all be hoping for world domination at the very least, and Irons has had 11 months longer than he should have got to try and achieve it, but im afraid we'll just have to pitch our tents here in the first division for a while, because we aren't going anywhere for a while yet. I know patience isn't the long lost lover of many Morton fans, but we have no other choice and people who think we have a right to go from bottom of this league with 2nd division quality players to fighting for the title when our manager has had one transfer window and not one full season are going to be mightily dissapointed for some time to come.

Is that opinion or fact? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-20 12:55:02
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jan 20 2009, 12:54 PM) [snapback]567067[/snapback]
Never. My mum unsuccessfully tried to force me until I was about 5 then gave up. Obviously I've had/used eggs in cooking other things but never on their own.

AH-so you have eaten egg! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-20 12:58:33
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 20 2009, 12:54 PM) [snapback]567066[/snapback]
I don't really think the fact it was in Dumfries changes anything. Not one person one here would go to their job after being at their fathers funeral. They'd go to the wake and get absolutely s*** faced.

Rather than spend time with this family who obviously needed him far more than we did, he chose to attend our match and try and save us from relegation.

He got credit for that decision yes, but not the ammount he should have got and definetely not as much as the criticism he gets for things like playing his former player in a meaningless bounce game.

Fact or opinion? smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-20 13:00:23
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 20 2009, 12:54 PM) [snapback]567068[/snapback]
This covers Newby as well as Dodds:

http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/articles/2/32970

Meanwhile David MacGregor has not responded as well as hoped to injections received on his groin injury.


OUCH!
mortonjag 2009-01-20 13:10:26
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 20 2009, 01:01 PM) [snapback]567074[/snapback]
educated guess. wink.gif

smile.gif

And probably inaccurate too!
mortonjag 2009-01-20 13:11:24
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 20 2009, 01:10 PM) [snapback]567079[/snapback]
I'm gonna have scrambled egg with onion through it for tea later. Mmmmm....

No cheese? huh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-20 13:19:01
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 20 2009, 01:12 PM) [snapback]567083[/snapback]
Probably, but then i was going for the extreme. Most people wouldn't go to work after their fathers funeral.

Very true. When I worked single handedly rolleyes.gif I had to miss out on several family events including the funeral of one of our dearest friends who succumbed to breast cancer at the age of 33 years.
mortonjag 2009-01-20 13:22:37
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 20 2009, 01:13 PM) [snapback]567086[/snapback]
Nah, although I may (and you'll have to trust me here) put some chopped chillies through it. Spicy.

Do you use a mezzaluna?

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mortonjag 2009-01-20 13:36:18
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 20 2009, 01:31 PM) [snapback]567097[/snapback]
I'm the bar manager you insufferable oaf.


That term should only be used for one man.
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mortonjag 2009-01-20 13:37:44
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 20 2009, 01:26 PM) [snapback]567094[/snapback]
No, I use a knife not too dissimilar from the one wielded by Michael Myers in the classic 70's slasher movie Halloween.

I hope you wear suitable protection.
mortonjag 2009-01-20 13:51:28
QUOTE(tontastic @ Jan 20 2009, 12:46 AM) [snapback]566934[/snapback]
Pictures from Dundee vs Morton are now uploading to the Tontastic web site at http://www.tontastic.com.

Did no-one else think it got a bit gusty on the way back?

Did you have one of those pies too?
mortonjag 2009-01-20 13:53:34
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jan 20 2009, 01:50 PM) [snapback]567109[/snapback]
I had you down as a pot noodle type of guy.

One noodle-two noodles

An egg-two neggs?
mortonjag 2009-01-20 14:10:29
QUOTE(EBu @ Jan 20 2009, 02:01 PM) [snapback]567117[/snapback]

A new dimension to 'shooting up'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-20 14:14:10
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 20 2009, 02:10 PM) [snapback]567123[/snapback]
That's a poor caricature. Looks more like Lord Willie Whitelaw, the cuddly face of Thatcherism.

Whitelaw was born in Nairn, in northeast Scotland. He never knew his father laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-20 14:19:31
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 20 2009, 02:15 PM) [snapback]567125[/snapback]
You can be so cruel at times.

...who was killed in the First World War when he was a baby. blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-20 14:24:23
QUOTE(king_bob @ Jan 20 2009, 02:19 PM) [snapback]567127[/snapback]
When a group of us are at hospitality we usually go straight to gourock either by taxi or train. By the time you get to Gourock your probably/if not already steamin.

Albert, Monteiths, Macgregor. Vick, Kempock, Cleats, Cafe

Cleats is good after 9pm as down stairs is open. Up stairs is maily for the older crowd who listen to the music and attempt to dance.

Ageism rears its ugly head again! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-20 15:51:05
QUOTE(cmdc @ Jan 20 2009, 03:46 PM) [snapback]567145[/snapback]
In fairness, he has made changes in games which have been positive. Off the top of my head, away at St Johnstone in the run in last year, when we were struggling and ended up with a 3-2 defeat (the two away goals crucial in keeping us up despite the defeat), he brought Finlayson on at home agianst Airdrie, who set up the decisive second goal, and he brought Grady on at home to Ross County just a few games ago which put us back on the front foot and we scored the winner soon after.

Deuchar playing against Rangers is neither here nor there really...that kind of thing happens all the time at clubs up and down the country.

And this season at McDiarmid he left Steve Masterton on the bench for 90 minutes in a game which could have been ours.
mortonjag 2009-01-20 15:53:05
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 20 2009, 03:32 PM) [snapback]567139[/snapback]
No...you only think the world revolves around you smile.gif

MY world most certainly revolves around me-doesn't yours? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-20 15:54:31
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jan 20 2009, 03:37 PM) [snapback]567142[/snapback]
You can turn the cooker on? Impressive. smile.gif

Not so good with the girls grills.
mortonjag 2009-01-20 16:13:06
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 20 2009, 03:58 PM) [snapback]567153[/snapback]
The difference it makes is that we were struggling against relegation and our man in charge showed up for our game on probably the hardest day of his life when a lot of others doesn't. In the grand scheme of thing it doesn't make much difference, although im sure it did to him.

Im not saying him turning upto the game that day had any effect on our season, just like playing someone that isn't ours in a meaningless bounce game doesn't. what im saying is he'll be criticised far more for doing that than he would be praised for him attending the QOS game.

and if i remember correctly, it was actually Collins who was in charge for the QOS game, Irons just spoke to the team before the game. Although my memory is terrible so the last part could be completely false.

So he showed up but didn't direct proceedings. PT I'm going to suggest he showed up because that's part of a workaholic nature. It may not have been what the family wanted or even sanctioned.

It's completely speculative IMO.
mortonjag 2009-01-20 16:26:01
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 20 2009, 04:20 PM) [snapback]567159[/snapback]
there is nothing speculative about him showing up, for whatever reasons he did it he didn't need to. And if im correct that he didn't take control of the team that day then its hardly showing his workaholic nature you speak of. by letting Deuchar play in the meaningless bounce game he was helping out a friend.

so he's a workaholic who helps out his friends allegedly, hardly something to criticise him for.

I have not criticised HIM. I've suggested that you are praising something which he may simply have done because 'he couldn't switch off', and that possibly his family might have preferred him elsewhere.

If that is correct, he put his job before his family, and that is pathognomonic of workaholism.
mortonjag 2009-01-20 17:13:40
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 20 2009, 04:44 PM) [snapback]567170[/snapback]
Im not talking about criticising him for showing up that day. He has been criticised for letting Deuchar play in the game against Rangers. All im saying is that he gets criticised a lot more for something as unimportant as that as he was praised that day against QOS.

some people look for any excuse to complain about something, and blow it completely out of proportion. My point is that because he doesn't have us playing fancy football he will get criticised for the slightest things while the good things he does will be ignored, that day against QOS was only an example...not the major point of my post.

...and I think that's inaccurate. It's not fancy football I want to see-it's EFFECTIVE attacking football to complement a solid defence and midfield.
mortonjag 2009-01-20 18:43:32
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 20 2009, 05:28 PM) [snapback]567190[/snapback]
But i bet at the beginning of the season when we hadn't won a game and giving away silly goals what you wanted us to see was us to be solid at the back and hard to beat and pick up points. which we've done. I don't know how you expected Irons to do any more than that with the players at his disposal, considering he couldn't sign anyone until january.

Patience is a virtue my friend.

I didn't-I predicted a 5th spot, stating that we'd be hard to beat and wouldn't score many goals.

Mortonjag is indescribably patient, but doesn't tolerate fools gladly! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-20 18:45:56
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 20 2009, 11:16 AM) [snapback]567031[/snapback]
Craig Molloy has been told he is free to find another club by St Mirren, along with Ryan McCay, as they are not going to have their contracts extended in the summer.

http://www.sportinglife.co.uk/football/tra..._St_Mirren.html

He's been loaned out twice to Stirling, but I know there tends to be a bit of a moan on here when a local boy signs for someone else, so....

Is his brother called Timothy?
mortonjag 2009-01-20 18:48:15
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 20 2009, 06:28 PM) [snapback]567225[/snapback]
Whereas the preceeding fella was George W Bush. rolleyes.gif
Which is wages of Soldiers, Cops etc that would be paid anyway.

White?
mortonjag 2009-01-20 18:49:40
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 20 2009, 06:34 PM) [snapback]567226[/snapback]
I don't refrigerate my eggs.
Slice alibi, SLICE!

Don't worry Mr Bam-it's a Proddy thing! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-20 18:59:27
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jan 20 2009, 05:24 PM) [snapback]567188[/snapback]
1...dont call me sweetie...

2...any comments from you are usually an attempt at being funny

3......i used to like you but your becoming a bit of an old pain in the arse

4.....feel free to meet up on saturday if you want...i would love to meet you to discuss a few things..or are you above that

Anything you want to say Sweetie, I'm sure you can say here, and I'll do my very best to get right down to your level. Don't forget Tontastic is watching out for more of your threats! wub.gif

I've been watching your posts over the past few weeks.

Are you an unfulfilled wee soul? You're always posting little snippets about celebrities who have had the pleasure of your company, but who, unlike yourself are complete muppets! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-20 19:02:55
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 20 2009, 06:25 PM) [snapback]567224[/snapback]
He'll be in London wink.gif

I'll be at Cappielow PD.
mortonjag 2009-01-20 19:04:52
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 20 2009, 06:51 PM) [snapback]567236[/snapback]
I doubt it will, the banks will be bailed out with little to no accountability and be able to continue running as they do now.

Einstein hath pronounced.
mortonjag 2009-01-20 19:09:13
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 20 2009, 06:59 PM) [snapback]567240[/snapback]
Then why lately have you been complaining in just about every single post about us not playing attractive attacking football and that its all Irons fault?

you have shown nothing but a lack of patience recently, unwilling to give Irons a break despite getting results just because Hal Stewart wouldn't approve.

That is also inaccurate. I HAVE said that the football is boring because it is, but in the main I've been pleading for the supply to the strikers to be fixed.

That's quite different sweetie.

Oh and I reserve that term purely for folk I like, plus the occasional numptie! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-20 19:11:42
QUOTE(Yoda @ Jan 20 2009, 07:05 PM) [snapback]567243[/snapback]
I've been buying duck eggs recently, they are much tastier than chicken eggs, especially scrambled or mashed up in a cup with butter, mmmmm scrummy. And no sam and ella to worry about!!

Mr Irons has one of those every other week.
mortonjag 2009-01-20 19:24:12
QUOTE(Yoda @ Jan 20 2009, 07:21 PM) [snapback]567251[/snapback]
If I'd known that I'd have collected them from Cappielow instead of buying them from Tescos! ph34r.gif

It was just a wee yolk.
mortonjag 2009-01-20 19:29:30
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jan 20 2009, 07:23 PM) [snapback]567253[/snapback]
in response to the jag first...

Im not threating anything..just want to meet you in person. (where was the threat). And also just wondered if you would have the bottle...as you always seem to disappear!

In response to the other question..

Jordan Knight didnt want to board with the(in his words) the plebs.
they also didn't want to sit in the main boarding area as they may get mobbed by fans.(DIDNT HAPPEN)
They also demanded personal security from the airport...
FFS there was nearly 18 of them and that made up most of the flight.

and in case anyones wondering....ITS MY OPINION

AND MJ.............

SEE YOU SATURDAY?


Why would I need to 'have the bottle', and where do I 'always seem to disappear' from? I'll be at Cappielow on Saturday as always, with my two 'wee' brothers. If you really want a friendly chat I'll be delighted to make your acquaintance. wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-20 19:33:11
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jan 20 2009, 07:31 PM) [snapback]567260[/snapback]
ok.....meet you at the shop ...2:45pm..

it will be friendly i promise...

ps.....bringing your brothers.....there will be enough cake

My brothers eat raw meat! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-20 19:35:46
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 20 2009, 07:27 PM) [snapback]567256[/snapback]
I believe that Irons is trying his hardest to change that though, he's already enquired about Yantorno and has two attacking midfield trialists just now. He knows what needs to be done, but this is only his second oppertunity to bring in his own players. We'll see how it goes by the end of January, but even if its not resolved im sure it will be in the summer as January is always a difficult time to buy players as teams don't want to let go good players in the middle of the season.

Next year will be the year to fully judge Irons.

don't worry about it babe. tongue.gif

I'll do my very best not to worry. SPL in 2010-2011 then? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-20 19:38:06
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 20 2009, 07:35 PM) [snapback]567268[/snapback]
Hope they do a follow up at Airdrie, that would be worth seeing. Oh the banter! smile.gif

Where has your Majesty's lovely avatar gone to?
mortonjag 2009-01-20 19:40:33
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jan 20 2009, 07:36 PM) [snapback]567269[/snapback]
it wasnt.....trust me

But the "raw meat" comment is threatening to me.....

What do you think?

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

They DO, though-always order their fillet steaks 'blue'-I think it's because they're Ton supporters, and they're both allergic to cake.
mortonjag 2009-01-20 19:43:13
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jan 20 2009, 07:38 PM) [snapback]567271[/snapback]
Going away in the next month on holiday..

Are linen trousers best for night time or a cotton blend?
And anyone know where i can get them?

Just for you!
mortonjag 2009-01-20 19:48:09
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jan 20 2009, 07:42 PM) [snapback]567278[/snapback]
PISH POSH TOSH MJ.....

EH!

I'm afraid that's a complete riddle.

I'll try one but I'm not sure of the rules of this game.

DISH DOSH COSH Flight..... unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-20 19:49:43
QUOTE(Yoda @ Jan 20 2009, 07:46 PM) [snapback]567285[/snapback]
If you lightly starch them the don't crease as much, but the wrinkles are part of the charm I think.

Balls?
mortonjag 2009-01-20 19:54:32
QUOTE(Yoda @ Jan 20 2009, 07:35 PM) [snapback]567266[/snapback]
£2.35 for half dozen, about the same as organic chookie eggs, the difference is I used to throw the chicken eggs out so stopped buying them as I hate waste, the duck eggs get used.

As for being high in cholesterol, I am relying on that being offset by the amount of red wine I consume blush.gif

There is a huge myth about foods high in cholesterol being 'bad for you'. High blood cholesterol is mainly a function of liver metabolism and has little to do with dietary intake. It's also largely genetic in origin. The message, as with everything except red wine, is-enjoy in moderation. Oh-and low cholesterol levels are strongly associated with cancers.
mortonjag 2009-01-20 20:03:44 hum
mortonjag 2009-01-20 20:06:35 I've heard they're very useful. Does anybody wear them?
mortonjag 2009-01-20 20:27:42
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 20 2009, 08:16 PM) [snapback]567313[/snapback]
Ahh, I see.

Do you have to wear your goatskin leggings when refrigerating the eggs? rolleyes.gif
No salmonella in chicken eggs either.

laugh.gif
Stop being capricious.
mortonjag 2009-01-20 20:29:17
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 20 2009, 08:23 PM) [snapback]567321[/snapback]
Ignore it at your own pearl. It's a bugger to iron. rolleyes.gif

Do you iron POUFFES?
mortonjag 2009-01-20 20:31:59
QUOTE(suda @ Jan 20 2009, 06:47 PM) [snapback]567232[/snapback]
Clearly

Which?
mortonjag 2009-01-20 20:34:23
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Jan 20 2009, 08:31 PM) [snapback]567326[/snapback]
you are utterly boring

away and sook on a werthers original

Did that fix the problem for you? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-20 21:06:45
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 20 2009, 08:54 PM) [snapback]567330[/snapback]
Absolute nonsense ! Most nationalists I know agree Salmond is the best man for the job. In fact I would say Salmond is more popular than ever within the nationalist movement.

Only does not equate to best Spurtle.

Popularity, moreover, does not equate to proficiency!

Most folk I know who would genuinely espouse a truly independent Scotland regard your Bawheid as a blundering buffoon who is holding back genuine progress.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 09:07:59 Every time this old chestnut comes up the opinions are quite clearly polarised.

The Inverclyde 'knowalls' who have had absolutely nil contact with the situation usually push the 'racism' agenda. That helps nobody.

Those who have lived and worked in Glasgow address it at least with some chance of realism, but I'd suggest that only those who have lived IN Govanhill or a similar area-the Captain mentions Cessnock, and Argyle St from Charing Cross to The Mosque has become similar- really KNOW what they are talking about.

I visited those people regularly from the early eighties. I had their confidence and shared their concerns. Latterly most of my home visits were to families of Asian origin. I was always acutely aware of how the locals perceived the status quo. I've seen the changes at first hand, and indeed have lived for five years on the very edge of the melting pot that straddles Eglinton St. and Pollowshaws Road.

I can tell you all quite categorically that Allison St. and its immediate environs have become a hell on earth. That has been allowed to happen-it has not been a natural ethnic evolutionary process of the type which previously had made the area fairly contentedly multi cultural.

Those who let it happen should get it fixed.

We all know who they are. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-21 09:12:37
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Jan 21 2009, 12:31 AM) [snapback]567396[/snapback]
no

but even a blind man running for a bus can see he is a lot better than that last muppet

even if he carries out half of the things he has promised he will be hailed as the black messiah (already is being hailed that by some)

Those who believe blind men run for buses are easily conned! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-21 09:23:50
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Jan 20 2009, 10:30 PM) [snapback]567355[/snapback]
It's got to be Dougie Rae!

smile.gif

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 20 2009, 11:22 PM) [snapback]567371[/snapback]
The SNP as a party have more "talent" waiting in the wings than any other party at Holyrood.

Sturgeon is fast becoming a very astute politician and a very able deputy to Salmond.
Lockhead is a rising star, Swinney is a very able politicain too, as is Angus Robertson.

Compare that to Tavish Scott for the Lib-Dems. Can't think of anymore from that party.

Iain Grey for Labour. Can't think of anymore from that party either.

Goldie, who has been not too bad as Tory leader, then Murdo Fraser and Derek Brownlee, both competent politicians but hardly leader material.

So basically none of the names mentioned would or could be in the same league as Salmond


The Scottish Parliament is in its infancy Spurtle. It's hardly surprising that a Tartan Tory Toddler from Westminster has stolen a few faltering steps over the rest of the keech.

That does not alter the fact that he's a master of spin, lies, incitement to xenophobia, and moral flexibility.

When the SNP becomes a platform for true independence rather that a bandwagon for self indulgent buffoonery, we may begin to move forward.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 09:28:41
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 21 2009, 08:29 AM) [snapback]567409[/snapback]
*sigh* This again?
It is simple.

...go to a cash machince once in England...and huzzah! Money they will take!

I DO love the quasi Shakespearean introduction. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-21 09:32:40
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 20 2009, 11:05 PM) [snapback]567366[/snapback]
Lots have places see the additional costs of changing menu's, signs, delivery menu's, the software in tils etc far out-weighs any benefit in taking the 2.5% off.

You REALLY know how to hurt me young man.

What did them menu's say?

Cone's £5

Wafer's £7.50

Tub's £25-£75

Blow job's V.A.T. free roon the back. wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-21 10:05:55
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 21 2009, 09:33 AM) [snapback]567430[/snapback]
Does anyone remember Creamola Foam ?

That's not the first time you've asked!

Aye-great stuff produced in Glasgow by the Hetherington family who lived in Kilmacolm. If you didn't shut the tin lids tightly they rusted very quickly. I presume that was down to the chemical content of the powder. Perhaps Dr Bam can help!
mortonjag 2009-01-21 10:09:46 Welcome to the world LC. (Elsie?)

Congrats to Mum and Dad! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-21 10:14:24 Remember Derek Lilley?

Great player in his time.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 10:16:35
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 21 2009, 08:15 AM) [snapback]567407[/snapback]
I'd say he's not the player we need. He's not as good as Jamie Stevenson, just about as inconsistent, not much of a worker, and injury prone. I think Irons will reject him after a quick trial though I'm surprised he doesn't know all this already. David Graham would've been a far better shout but the Pars must have had inside knowledge of that one.

From our wish list of full backs, wide midfielders, attacking midfielder and clinical striker, I think attacking mid is Iron's priority. Everything we don't punt we're putting through the wings and falling a bit short of the required quality. We either bring in another option through the middle, or try Jamie there and a sign a genuine winger.

He's in the Stevenson mould, though reputedly a real grafter. Very injury prone. I'd rather gamble on getting Jamie motivated and spend the money on a winger.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 10:18:56
QUOTE(hayfever @ Jan 21 2009, 12:57 AM) [snapback]567401[/snapback]
Nah he's not dead, that's just how he sleeps...

You should try to dig him up.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 10:20:05
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 21 2009, 06:06 AM) [snapback]567404[/snapback]
Hello Paddy, I got a portion of Ch1nky chips

I much prefer pakora from the p a k i s
mortonjag 2009-01-21 10:26:42
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 21 2009, 10:19 AM) [snapback]567458[/snapback]
But that's, like, sooo difficult. Much easier to kick up a fuss and moan about things. Isn't that right MJ? ph34r.gif tongue.gif

Don't see the motion going anywhere. Having read the article, I noticed that the idea was actually pitched by one of their constituents. WTF are we paying these MP's for if they can't even think up their own ideas?! rolleyes.gif

blink.gif

I said Creamola Foam was superb! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-21 10:29:23
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 21 2009, 10:21 AM) [snapback]567461[/snapback]
I think I know who they are. Who are the Inverclyde 'knowalls' ?

Don't worry Mr Edwards-I was referring broadly to a bunch of PC clots half your age! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-21 10:30:51
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 21 2009, 10:22 AM) [snapback]567462[/snapback]
He's worth a 'trial' at least, and if he is indeed as fit as he says, then there's nothing to lose by signing him up on a 4 month deal til the end of the season.

That would still cost MUNNY!
mortonjag 2009-01-21 10:33:09
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 21 2009, 10:25 AM) [snapback]567463[/snapback]
What's a winger? unsure.gif

To be honest, anyone that's available on a 'free' is worth a trial. If they're not good enough, fine. If they are, get 'em on a contract. Still 12 days 'til the transfer window closes so bags of time for DI and DC to find any players they feel they need.

somebody like him

C'mon Shoogly-splash the cash! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-21 10:36:15
QUOTE(irnbru @ Jan 21 2009, 10:33 AM) [snapback]567473[/snapback]
I know its an outside chance but if we were to get promoted this season does anyone know the cut offdate to have an SPL compliant stadium?

I've been passing Love Street every day and nothing seems to be happening.

Also would it be an option to leave standing for cup games if we had 6000 seats elsewhere? If we were to do this I'd like to see Morton campaigning to re introduce standing at SPL games with Cappielow being used as a trial for a year or so.

As I say - its highly unlikely we'll get promoted but there must be some sort of plan in place if that does happen. Maybe the plan is not to sign anyone so we dont go up ph34r.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-21 10:57:02
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Jan 21 2009, 10:35 AM) [snapback]567475[/snapback]
I agree with that. I was pleased to see Jamie on the bench on Saturday and hope he is there too at the start this week. The only problem is that Davie Irons appears reluctant to make substitutions until the fag-end of the game and therefore the only chance of Jamie getting on is for 10 minutes at the end, or if we are two or three goals up, which in any game in the First Division is very unusual.

I was interested to note Douglas Rae's positive comment regarding Jamie having a future at Cappielow; the team is very different from when he left and he could be the creative influence we need.

It's already Wednesday in Glasgow Mr Toon!
mortonjag 2009-01-21 11:01:32
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 21 2009, 10:34 AM) [snapback]567474[/snapback]
Oh I see. I don't think anybody in that category appeared on this thread though, hence the question.

This is a recurring theme Mr Edwards. On the last two occasions there was much weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth, by the aforementioned PC clots.

Have they since learned by their mistakes?

What do YOU think! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-21 11:06:30
QUOTE
'otter' [/b]date='Jan 21 2009, 10:49 AM' post='567484']
Sunny Largs, by the sea! smile.gif

Phil.

The future's bright......

Seems ideal!
mortonjag 2009-01-21 11:08:03
QUOTE(Yoda @ Jan 21 2009, 10:59 AM) [snapback]567498[/snapback]

Its head must be fresian.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 11:10:52
QUOTE(bilco @ Jan 21 2009, 10:57 AM) [snapback]567495[/snapback]
Yes and we could get Collins at the back he also says hes fit.
Wonder what Alexander is up to just now.
Seen Davie coaching our keepers got to be worth a shout also..
Then we could have a team for the masters laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Big Andy's only about 52! thumbup2.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-21 11:13:12
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Jan 21 2009, 11:09 AM) [snapback]567507[/snapback]
I can see a lot of people are gonnae milk the cow puns in this thread

Just turn the udder cheek.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 11:15:35 What's the answer to today's 5 across? blink.gif

mortonjag 2009-01-21 11:19:00
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jan 21 2009, 11:17 AM) [snapback]567520[/snapback]
Dont have a clue as my arms aren't long enough to read the herald! have they cut it down to tabloid size yet? seems a helluva waste of paper to me, when they could just decrease the font size!

I don't buy it-I read it on line and print out the crossword. It's still a broadsheet!
mortonjag 2009-01-21 11:20:28
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jan 21 2009, 11:12 AM) [snapback]567513[/snapback]
Do you think the SPL will welcome upstarts, only just into the division for the first time since it started, coming to the board and trying to change the rules when there is a chance that it will cause uproar amongst their more established clubs that were forced to spend £x million to bring their stadiums up to the all seated minimum? rolleyes.gif

For what it's worth, I would be happy to groundshare at the new St Mirren Park for half the season in order to bring our stadium up to scratch. It would be a small price to pay to see us paying at the to level again.

I've always seen that as the most probable scenario.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 11:22:02
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jan 21 2009, 11:18 AM) [snapback]567521[/snapback]
Do you think it had been in a car beefore????? is it mooooooning out the other window???

Probably sounding its horns.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 11:24:42 String vests are best.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 11:28:30
QUOTE(otter @ Jan 21 2009, 11:22 AM) [snapback]567528[/snapback]
Seems ideal!
[/quote

Well, the sleets on at the moment, so it's not too sunny and it's actually a river and not a sea...but it's not Finport! biggrin.gif

Phil.

The future's bright....

Are you acquainted with the term 'spraint'- with reference to the otter-not McAnespie?
mortonjag 2009-01-21 11:29:38
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jan 21 2009, 11:25 AM) [snapback]567532[/snapback]
I know the one your talking about! where did that picture go, im on the trail to find it!

I'm sure I saw him at the Pie Stall at Dundee! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-21 11:31:19 Is nobody going to help me? blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-21 11:41:34 Adder!
mortonjag 2009-01-21 11:44:51
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Jan 21 2009, 11:38 AM) [snapback]567541[/snapback]
Is it DDF.Rae

laugh.gif laugh.gif

Well it could be as the clue is 'Broods about one's exploits', but there are seven letters.
It's probably staring me in the face-I'm pretty sure it's m*s*s*s.

C'mon all you bright sparks!
mortonjag 2009-01-21 11:51:25
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Jan 21 2009, 11:48 AM) [snapback]567547[/snapback]
I knows its 7 but the . I put in doesn't have anything below so thought I could use it to my advantage

I think they've made a mistake! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-21 11:58:35
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jan 21 2009, 11:53 AM) [snapback]567552[/snapback]
misused or misuser maybe, dont know better get back to work soon!

pretty sure it is one of these, probably misused

'Misuses' will do fine Angel-you are a bloody genius-that's it DONE! wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif

It's a pretty duff clue mind you-even by cryptic standards-broods = muses

put muses around one 's' (is) and you get misuses.

I guess misuses means exploits, and obviously DDF.Rae would have been correct too! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-21 12:02:05
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Jan 21 2009, 11:59 AM) [snapback]567557[/snapback]
Oh deary deary me.

How many letters?
mortonjag 2009-01-21 12:16:29
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jan 21 2009, 12:01 PM) [snapback]567561[/snapback]
its not all bad getting paid to sit on the messageboard all day!

Please don't tell me your employer has paid for my satisfaction! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-21 12:43:17
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Jan 21 2009, 12:17 PM) [snapback]567567[/snapback]
Glad to hear that Glasgow is keeping up with Greenock!

I could be wrong of course. That would be a first. shutup.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-21 12:44:57
QUOTE(Jamie_M @ Jan 21 2009, 12:20 PM) [snapback]567570[/snapback]
Couldn't disagree more with this statement...

Maybe the poster was exaggerating a little to make the point that Deuchar's a big lump of keech! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-21 12:57:37 Otherwise know as White Petroleum Jelly, this household name for decades has many uses.

My favourite is for coating the battery terminals on the motor.


I love this wee quote from the link below:

Because petroleum jelly is oil-based, it interferes with the structure of latex. Using petroleum jelly with latex condoms weakens the material very quickly, increasing the chance of rupture, and thereby the chance of causing an unwanted pregnancy or spreading sexually transmitted infections.

Vaseline was used as the standard condom lubricant for many, many years!! laugh.gif




vaseline

Any of you have a 'vaseline' story to relate?
mortonjag 2009-01-21 13:00:15
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jan 21 2009, 12:54 PM) [snapback]567579[/snapback]
There's no point paying for and dis-mantling the Love St Stand until such a time as the Local Authority have granted approval for Planning Permission.
There may be issues if the height of the roof is significantly higher than the current roof structures.
That's where local councillors could come in and help the club out, but we all know what a bunch of self publicising, greedy, corupt OF SUPPORTING individuals they are...

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-21 13:01:36
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 21 2009, 12:56 PM) [snapback]567580[/snapback]
Shut it.

Aye-Shut it!
mortonjag 2009-01-21 13:04:05
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 21 2009, 12:59 PM) [snapback]567584[/snapback]
When going through a dry spell (which is pretty much all the time) I require it's services to minimise the damage done from surfing for internet porn. It's soothing.

You must have VERY tender fingers! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-21 13:05:29
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jan 21 2009, 12:58 PM) [snapback]567582[/snapback]
Dropped in the Sunday before Christmas (it was full of Greenock punters). Great to see they have been fauthful to the original. Two million pound spent on it. They have had teething problems with slow service but as I remember it Nardinis always was slow. For a while it looked like it was going to be demolished (after those flats were buit behind it), so I am really pleased to see it open for business.

Is it still owned by the Tallies?
mortonjag 2009-01-21 13:06:49
QUOTE(togib @ Jan 21 2009, 01:05 PM) [snapback]567594[/snapback]
newton must be coming in his pants now happy.gif

That sounds like a really hard one


How many letters? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-21 13:08:38
QUOTE(Loveless @ Jan 21 2009, 01:06 PM) [snapback]567597[/snapback]
I'm sure if you just stick to singing about your sash in the toilets they won't mind. If they throw you out, you could always go to the Black Cat, or Cleats?

slash?
mortonjag 2009-01-21 13:10:09
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jan 21 2009, 01:07 PM) [snapback]567600[/snapback]
Fishing for a bite ?

I'm not a fisherman.

Do the Italian family still own the eponymous establishment? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-21 13:11:21
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 21 2009, 01:09 PM) [snapback]567604[/snapback]
Is the car fitted with bull bars?

Bet the back seat area is full of cow Shi'ite. Even though it's a Nissan Sunni.

You'll be upsetting the Mooslims.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 13:13:19
QUOTE(Loveless @ Jan 21 2009, 01:09 PM) [snapback]567603[/snapback]
Are you implying huns always slur their words?

I never imply anything.

I used to watch the movies and loved the sash Mia Farrow wore.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 13:14:35
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 21 2009, 01:12 PM) [snapback]567609[/snapback]
I think you allow your blind hatred to, well, blind you. Xenophobia? P1sh.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Just like my insane jealousy of Millstone-eh? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-21 13:17:43
QUOTE(Loveless @ Jan 21 2009, 01:15 PM) [snapback]567614[/snapback]
Haha. Mmmmm.

Just thinking about the Black Cat actually, don't go in there very often. One night I was in with my girlfriend when a middle-aged piss-head approached us. He talked nonsense for about ten minutes, slurring his words and staggering about. He then coughed and launched his partial denture across the bar and quick as a flash picked it up and put it back in his mouth. We promptly left.

That was relatively mild mannered behaviour compared to some of the Glesca pubs!
mortonjag 2009-01-21 13:21:16
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 21 2009, 01:17 PM) [snapback]567619[/snapback]
ps, I much prefer KY Jelly as a sexual lubricant. Theres a few fancy ''play'' lubricants which Durex and stuff have on the market, I think they are a fashion gimmick, I find KY to be most effective.
and so does my boyfriend

Shots each then? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-21 13:22:24
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jan 21 2009, 01:16 PM) [snapback]567615[/snapback]
I belive David Equi (Hamilton based ice cream manufacturing family) heads the consortium that own Nardinis.
They bought the trademark and recipes too.

I'm glad to hear it's still a genuine Tally ice cream parlour.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 13:28:08
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jan 21 2009, 01:19 PM) [snapback]567623[/snapback]
its looking that way, merely trying to stop myself from falling asleep!

I wish I had had a job like that! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-21 13:44:58
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 21 2009, 01:39 PM) [snapback]567646[/snapback]
Legally sorted out? You taking me to a brothel or something cos I've already had my hole.

Hamsters don't count.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 13:46:36
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 21 2009, 01:38 PM) [snapback]567644[/snapback]
I like to produce a sense of emotions dahrling smile.gif

*sighs* what a charming child! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-21 13:48:48
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 21 2009, 01:47 PM) [snapback]567651[/snapback]
Ew.

rolleyes.gif

Has VT been lying AGAIN?
mortonjag 2009-01-21 13:50:29
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 21 2009, 01:36 PM) [snapback]567641[/snapback]
I wish my wife would stop calling me ''b4wbag''

If mine did I'd boot her c*nt in.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 13:57:17
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jan 21 2009, 01:51 PM) [snapback]567655[/snapback]
Theres not much that would surprise the police up this neck of the woods, a panned in window is common with a lot more serious allegations and crimes happening why would this make them seem surprised! anyways..

it changes really dramatically from street to street up here, take langside road as an example.. goes from a black bag dumping c*** roach strewn zone to yer lovely plush clean "housing association" (ill refrain from going into ny rant about that mr edwards smile.gif part of the street at the crossing of a road.

Its unfair to tarnish the whole of govanhill as a slum, westmoreland st, allison st, langside road fair enough, some of it is fine and less overcrowded than others.

I would take up on one point that capitanus has added about pensioners being afraid to walk "THEIR" streets at night.. without fear of strangers. I dont know were you get that s***e that is the a main fear round here. People from other racial backgrounds terrifying the poor ole pensioners at night? bulls***. media driven fear that is put in them. yes theres a fear around hear of the streets, as equally as theres a fear at night (debatebly hyped up worse than it is), theres also a fear during the days from the amount of white adults, no strangers, full of glesgae banter as you put it who hang around at certain prominent areas (ladbrokes) whilst waiting to score their next fix. its not all racial fear and its very f***in easy to make it look that way. Theres a whole lot of issues, including your junked, jaked up ADULTs hanging around,.,. from the minute the bookies/carry oot shop opens til around the time they close. Only last week a lady with learning disabilities was approached on allison st by one of the usual suspects and had her weekly allowance taking off her (a regular reported crime).. the suspects, white aged 20 - 30, junked up... i just think the race thing is used far too quickly when theres other serious threats that have f*** all to do with race that is causing fear in the area.

so aye a large combination of issues.. welcome to govanhill!

if the go aheads given for another bookies right at the corner of langside road/allison st, that corners gonna be one hell of a nightmare more than it already is.



How long do you reckon the said jakeys/junkies have lived in the area?

I'm not disagreeing with anything you've said BTW, and re. the 'pensioners' comment I'd still carry my wee bag up to the top flats at all hours of night if still working (just as the present Deputising Service lads do)!
mortonjag 2009-01-21 13:58:52
QUOTE(otter @ Jan 21 2009, 01:56 PM) [snapback]567658[/snapback]
I am now, rest assured i'm not s***ting all over largs. wink.gif

Phil.

The future's bright...

A good crossword item!
mortonjag 2009-01-21 13:59:51
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jan 21 2009, 01:50 PM) [snapback]567654[/snapback]
oh no you dont! Feel as though im working in a sleep deprivation clinic! I spend more on newspapers than i earn! gonna buy the herald tomorrow and make life size dancing dollies when i eventually finish reading it!

Does nobody knit any more?
mortonjag 2009-01-21 14:01:46
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 21 2009, 01:57 PM) [snapback]567660[/snapback]
Ageist mad.gif

* sighs* what a winsome boy.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 14:04:33
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 21 2009, 02:01 PM) [snapback]567665[/snapback]
My name is not Deego or MJ.
You will be wearing flip flops and a robe on a street corner in Baghdad by the time ive finished with ye

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Recruiting for under cover agents?
mortonjag 2009-01-21 14:07:48
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 21 2009, 02:05 PM) [snapback]567670[/snapback]
Na, Camel feed wink.gif

One hump or two?
mortonjag 2009-01-21 14:29:06
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jan 21 2009, 02:22 PM) [snapback]567676[/snapback]
well personally i dont, im left handed and struggle with the pins, i just drink instead!

I take it you have plenty of left handed glasses or do you just neck it? blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-21 14:38:50
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 21 2009, 02:36 PM) [snapback]567680[/snapback]
Nine letter word, begins with "N", two "N"s in the middle, ends with "N", clue is "constipation".......
Answer: NNNNNNNNN.........

Took you a while to work that out.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 14:52:00
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jan 21 2009, 02:32 PM) [snapback]567679[/snapback]
its quite strange but i only really use my left hand to write but it does make a lot of things difficult, like peeling totties, takes me about 30 mins to peel 2! no wise cracks needed about any other difficult things or it could be misconstrued as racism against lefties laugh.gif

I stopped peeling them years ago-just a wee scrub with one of those green abrasive things-the skins are very good for you.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 14:54:55
QUOTE(monyou @ Jan 21 2009, 02:51 PM) [snapback]567686[/snapback]
Is it one of those military coos?

Best to steer clear .
mortonjag 2009-01-21 15:14:59
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 21 2009, 03:01 PM) [snapback]567693[/snapback]
just remembered what that clip reminds me of....... the shots of Margaret Thatcher in the back of a car being driven away from 10 Downing Street for the last time....... magic!!! laugh.gif

Heading for the yacht in Cowes.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 15:48:57
QUOTE(grnklad2006ton @ Jan 21 2009, 03:42 PM) [snapback]567706[/snapback]
That boy can score goals for fun, i have always rated him as a great poacher striker. Him along with Grady and peter would be not too bad at all. But i dont know why we are talking about it as we wont have the sense in going for him, when do we ever get a player that we are interested in???????

My pal who is a calley fan said that big CB was fitter than most first team players at calley, he took them trainning and is anything but unfit thats for sure, so do not let age come into this.

I think he would bang the goals in at 1st division level but not SPL , i would say go for him great striker wink.gif

We have strikers already!
mortonjag 2009-01-21 15:51:10
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Jan 21 2009, 03:39 PM) [snapback]567705[/snapback]
I rub ma baws and tops of my legs with it every now and again.

In fact I'm planning on doing the same the next time I visit Amsterdam.

Will you also use it on her tulips?
mortonjag 2009-01-21 16:00:40 So far as I can see he's scored four goals since 2006! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-21 16:06:01
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 21 2009, 04:03 PM) [snapback]567719[/snapback]
I do try granpa happy.gif

You should be so lucky! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-21 16:25:09
QUOTE(Mr H Palms @ Jan 21 2009, 04:06 PM) [snapback]567721[/snapback]
If its not 16 year old boys you want to meet up with and "discuss", you,ve now moved on to grave dodgers.

I think you fancy yourself as a bit of a bully.

I think you need help.

TIT

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mortonjag 2009-01-21 18:36:55
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Jan 21 2009, 05:52 PM) [snapback]567747[/snapback]
Not very good ones, though.

Weatherson is in good form just now but still has to prove himself over a longer period of time. I agree that a good winger with a decent cross will see Peter score more than he does just now, but our other strikers are completely hopeless and a better quality of crossing ability isn't going to change that. Wake is awful, to put it simply. Russell, though a decent player, is mince in front of goal. Grady is one of the worst players I've seen in a long time if I'm being completely honest. Well past it. That leaves Newby who won't play for us again, and Graham who is away for the rest of this season, and still has a lot to prove when he returns.

A neutral gazing in might initially be impressed by the apparent authority with which you talk complete bollocks.

QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jan 21 2009, 06:21 PM) [snapback]567759[/snapback]
Give him a zimmer frame, he is too old to play but would be good as a coach for the forwards

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Old age and decrepitude do not invariably go hand in hand.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 18:47:01
QUOTE(Jackie @ Jan 21 2009, 06:07 PM) [snapback]567755[/snapback]
I've just seen this thread too.

I don't know Bryan but he seems like a stand up bloke. Wishing you a speedy recovery smile.gif

If you did you might understand why he'll probably have a wee chuckle at that!
mortonjag 2009-01-21 18:51:49
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 21 2009, 05:38 PM) [snapback]567738[/snapback]
Here to help. The fizzing was due to sodium bicarb and citric acid. When you added water the citric acid dissolved and the acidic solution reacted with the bicarb to produce heaps of CO2 bubbles.

If the lid was left off the acidic powder catalysed a reaction between the water vapour and oxygen in the air- lots of rusting. If the lid was on tight then the small volume of air in the tin meant that only limited rusting could occur.

I knew it had to be something like that.

Catalyst
Noun

1. (chemistry) a substance that initiates or accelerates a chemical reaction without itself being affected.

Thank you.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 18:59:30
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Jan 21 2009, 06:43 PM) [snapback]567767[/snapback]
Christ, what would they think of you then? Tadger. laugh.gif

Enough of the cheek son. Weatherson had ALREADY proved himself as a competent striker when you were still in Primary School.

You're beginning to sound like a Viking Brat mark 11.

Now scurry off before I tan your arse.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 19:02:36
QUOTE(Jackie @ Jan 21 2009, 06:55 PM) [snapback]567772[/snapback]
You and everyone else knew what I meant, perhaps one day I'll get to meet him smile.gif

Same here-I give him a wee wave on Saturdays but he obviously doesn't know who I am.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 19:05:49
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 21 2009, 07:04 PM) [snapback]567777[/snapback]
The seats have aleady been stripped out the stand in preparation of dismantling it.

Has the smell gone yet?
mortonjag 2009-01-21 19:34:04


QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Jan 21 2009, 07:12 PM) [snapback]567781[/snapback]
Weatherson did not play for Morton when I was in primary school. I couldn't give a flying fck what he done for QotS. Fantastic start to his Morton career, followed by sheer big headedness, and dreadful attitude, then his stint as a defender (due to being hopeless up front for months). He's proven that he has the ability at this level occassionally. I would now like some consistency over a whole season, not 2 weeks good followed by one month with no effort.

I'm glad that you agree about his ability-that ties in with the general opinion among First Division managers, who I am CERTAIN would rate him well ahead of the ageing Brewster, and that's what this thread's about.

If you mean that you hope he can maintain his fitness and positivity I agree with you on that.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 19:47:31
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 21 2009, 07:40 PM) [snapback]567790[/snapback]
Cowboys the lot of them.

More frequently from the Indian sub continent.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 20:16:44
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 21 2009, 07:48 PM) [snapback]567793[/snapback]
Housing Associations? huh.gif

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mortonjag 2009-01-21 20:18:30
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jan 21 2009, 07:42 PM) [snapback]567791[/snapback]
Following the Motherwell/Gretna Fir Park fiasco last season, the SPL no longer allow ground-sharing. rolleyes.gif

The SPL are notorious for changing the rules whenever it suits.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 20:24:31
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 21 2009, 08:19 PM) [snapback]567810[/snapback]
It's not Salmond's fault there is a dearth of talent on the unionist benches. rolleyes.gif

In fact, there is not a lot of talent at Westminster either come to think of it happy.gif

There are no 'unionist benches' as you very well know Spurtle.

I agree the quality of MSP is somewhat mediocre and that that is not Bawheid's fault.

What was the point you were trying to make?
mortonjag 2009-01-21 20:28:56
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 21 2009, 08:22 PM) [snapback]567811[/snapback]
I use it to stop my lips getting chapped in the cold weather. happy.gif

I thought you were a guy.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 20:39:04
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 21 2009, 08:29 PM) [snapback]567815[/snapback]
Since I'm bored, and it's January so we need cheering up. I think we should write a song.

To the tune of "Carolina in the morning" Please feel free to add a verse if you want to contribute in the writing of this song.

I'll have a go at the first couple of lines to the first verse
Nothing could be finer than to be in a vagina in the mor-ning
Nothing could be sweeter than to beef it into Rita in the mor-ning

You are awful-but I like you! laugh.gif


Nothing could be greater than a POUFFE masturbator in the mor-ning
Nothing could be larger than Sir Cliff's enormous tadger in the mor-ning.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 20:45:23 Sorry to hear of his passing. He was certainly a colourful character.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 20:46:40
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 21 2009, 08:42 PM) [snapback]567832[/snapback]
You just sounded a wee bit like the H**'s Trust 'We Deserve Better' campaign, that's all.

Why would a H** drive a French car?
mortonjag 2009-01-21 20:48:33
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 21 2009, 08:41 PM) [snapback]567831[/snapback]
Rule number 1: Don't believe everything you read on here.

Rule number 2


Don't believe anything you read in the Tilly.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 20:50:33
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 21 2009, 08:49 PM) [snapback]567838[/snapback]
Absolutely no idea what either of you are on about. You're both mental.

He's not as mental as me-I'm not having it! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-21 20:52:09
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 21 2009, 08:30 PM) [snapback]567818[/snapback]
Face lips blink.gif

Oh-why didn't you say so in the first place. How do you protect your c*nt?
mortonjag 2009-01-21 20:58:01
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 21 2009, 08:55 PM) [snapback]567845[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-01-21 21:01:07 It's a cruel world, and you have to feel sorry for the supporters but facts are chiels that winna ding.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 21:03:17 Could he do a better job that-say-Jim McInally?
mortonjag 2009-01-21 21:07:04
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 21 2009, 08:51 PM) [snapback]567841[/snapback]
To be fair on the tele' they can only print what they are told, unless you know and have proof they have been making stories up regarding Morton?

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mortonjag 2009-01-21 21:11:21
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 21 2009, 09:09 PM) [snapback]567855[/snapback]
Not at all Rentier.
I do all the cooking and washing up.

Lady McB(eth) does the washing and ironing.

50/50.

Here to help.

The chemistry sounds just about right.

Who pays the bills? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-21 21:12:49
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 21 2009, 09:11 PM) [snapback]567857[/snapback]
Its about time the number of league teams were decreased in Scotland, I hope Livi follow behind suit.

Stranraer have far more tradition behind them than Livi.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 21:16:37
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Jan 21 2009, 09:14 PM) [snapback]567865[/snapback]
Well not ridicolous but I dont see why you wish for clubs to go down the pan.

Because they can't make ends meet. It's what happens in the real world.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 21:21:05
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Jan 21 2009, 09:15 PM) [snapback]567866[/snapback]
Of course they couldn't. But the whole idea of our system of Government is that it will speak for a greater proportion of the population. So with SNP's majority being as tight as it is then is it not better to take into account the other parties and barter to get a compromise without Swinney and co saying if you don't agree with our budget then we're no playing and going to throw the country into turmoil?? Or is it the usual they are running to Goldie and Co asking for a sub??
As Health Sec Sturgeon quickly moved to keep Monklands and Crosshouse Hospitals open while all the others targeted for the chop are having to do with little concessions. This is fully within her remit, now she didn't need cross party support for that. The only reason those two got off the hangman's noose was that she ran out of money as they made an erse of it over the Police recruitment and Goldie and the Libs forced them into keeping the manifesto pledge. Health roads and prisons lost out because they paid lip service to the electorate.

From being the party for the people of Scotland we're nothing but Goldies poodle.

I do love the vision of Big Annabel with the barking Bawheid oot for 'draggies' on his choker chain.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 21:22:58
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 21 2009, 09:19 PM) [snapback]567874[/snapback]
..........?

all his friends were there!
mortonjag 2009-01-21 21:25:02
QUOTE(big B @ Jan 21 2009, 09:18 PM) [snapback]567873[/snapback]
All I will say is "Hugh Scott" when we were going down the tubes there was a lot of goodwill from other teams fans to support and get us through bad times some people have short memories.

Scott f*cked a viable proposition. The situation at Stranraer is different.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 21:30:01
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jan 21 2009, 09:20 PM) [snapback]567876[/snapback]
Aye, but when yer shagging a hoover attachment WD40's the dog's baws.

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...and the wife wonders why she can't change the bag.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 21:40:10
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 21 2009, 09:28 PM) [snapback]567886[/snapback]
You obviously read the Daily Record blink.gif

Perhaps if the SNP government were in a position to keep all the taxes raised here in Scotland they could actually afford to do things like keep hospitals open.
I'm sure putting 1p on a bottle of whisky for instance could probably build some new schools or recruit even more police to help fight crime.
Sending £billions of oil and gas revenue to London, then getting a fraction of it back in a handout, then bleating about the lack of funds for schools and hospitals, is ludicrous and borders on the insane.

The NHS is well and truly f*cked Spurtle. We need a radical re-think about how healthcare is provided; not more lies about a 'health service which will meet demand without involvement of the private sector'.

We could also do with a health minister instead of that hirsute harpy from Hades.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 21:43:07
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Jan 21 2009, 09:36 PM) [snapback]567894[/snapback]
The point that I was trying to make was that I didn't really know that bit of Glasgow well at the time, and thus it was a bit of a surprise to me that it wasn't a surprise to the polis. Hassle from pished/stoned blokes, people pishing in the close, my (borrowed) car (15 years old and worth fck all) being purloined, I've had all that whilst staying in less-than-salubrious areas of Glasgow and Greenock.

I'd never previously had two bricks and a buckie bottle pinged through my windae at 7pm on a Sunday evening.

Empty? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-21 21:51:18
QUOTE(suda @ Jan 21 2009, 09:33 PM) [snapback]567890[/snapback]
Stranraer have been a viable club for nearly 140 years, imagine living down there with the only thing to look forward to is the game on a Saturday and the ferry from Larne.



QUOTE(Capuan @ Jan 21 2009, 09:43 PM) [snapback]567902[/snapback]
Regardless of who did or didnt give a toss when we we're struggling, I DO give a toss about the viability of community football in this country and about stranraer continuing as a football club. True followers of Scottish football will believe that the collapse of ONE community club is frankly one too many.

Gentlemen-I think the use of the term 'viable' should be clarified. When I use the term I mean self sufficient or potentially so, and that term does NOT apply to Stranraer.

Of course it's sad if they go down, and it will be great if another local businessman bails them out, but they ain't viable and have not been so for many a long year.

Before I hear the usual sh*te about Morton being in the same boat, I defy anybody to state that with the potential fanbase we have we could not be run at a profit.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 22:15:15
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 21 2009, 09:57 PM) [snapback]567917[/snapback]
Former Dundee chief executive Dave MacKinnon doesn't seem to think full-time 1st division clubs can be run at a profit unless you are lucky enough to have players worth money or have decent cup runs every season.
http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/articles/2/32753

Possibly so, which makes a long term youth policy vital. Our greatest successes in living memory were as a part time club in the old Premier league.
mortonjag 2009-01-21 22:18:45
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 21 2009, 10:13 PM) [snapback]567922[/snapback]
no you fud. all the farts were there. do you know anything?

am i still getting a wave on saturday? rolleyes.gif

I was giving you the Mearns version!

Tutti Frutti dun a beauty.............. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-21 22:25:45
QUOTE(Toby @ Jan 21 2009, 10:16 PM) [snapback]567926[/snapback]
With respect jag, that's a load of absolute nonsense.

As I posted on the thread on the General Nonsense board, if Stranraer were to operate as a strictly amatuer club they would be financialliy viable especially with their fairly vibrant social club, which really should turn a profit. From my experiences visiting, with the profit I'd imagine that place makes added to gate revenue they'd be self sufficient. Economics is killing the game, as nobody (except Queen's Park of course) is willing to go down that road and be left behind their peers in a playing sense.

So the future of Scottish Professional Football lies in clubs becoming amateur?

I imagine Kilmacolm Amateurs are financially viable-if they still exist. Maybe they could apply for the next vacant slot in the SFL.
mortonjag 2009-01-22 06:56:37 The doctor will see you now. Kenny Deuchar MD is back in Scottish football less than a year after leaving these shores to chase the American dream.





According to yet another piece of media hype about this mediocre footballer, Deuchar is an M.D.

If you look up the abbreviations, there are literally hundreds for that pair of letters, but in British medical terms it signifies a Doctor of Medicine.

Now before you Jag bashers rush to point out that 'he IS an effin doaktur', I'd like to make it known that 'M.D.' is a post graduate degree conferred only on medical men and ladies of considerable distinction and experience.

Considering that Deuchar has spent most of his time since graduation frantically trying to score goals of a different type, you can rest assured that he is most certainly not an M.D.

Not so long ago the term was commonly used to mean Mentally Defective. wacko.gif


NEXT!
mortonjag 2009-01-22 07:24:07
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Jan 21 2009, 10:59 PM) [snapback]567954[/snapback]
Something Brewster could bring out in some of the other players if the rumours are to be believed. Not good for an already fragile dressing room.

I thought that was now fixed.

Are you calling big Brewster a POUFFE? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-22 07:32:50 As things stand, Stranraer is incapable of SUSTAINING a football club within the present structure of the SFL.

The Chairman of the Club may just have come to that sad conclusion, but it's a fact that's been obvious to onlookers for some time.

When it comes to finance driven issues, I'd much rather listen to somebody like Tonsilitis, than to the fanciful and platitudinous protestations of our procrustean do-gooder weans! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-22 07:38:15
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 22 2009, 07:12 AM) [snapback]568011[/snapback]
Don't you think that following devolution, and the fact we now have a completely separate NHS system from the rest of the UK, the term and association to the BMA should be scrapped for doctors in Scotland ? Perhaps it's time to form the SMA (Scottish Medical Association) rolleyes.gif

The BMA has a very active Scottish division which for the most part operates in the interest of Scottish Practitioners.

The BMA is a registered trade union.
mortonjag 2009-01-22 07:47:32
QUOTE(Welling Ton @ Jan 22 2009, 12:14 AM) [snapback]567987[/snapback]
I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg.
The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!

how esay was that to raed? dry.gif

OK

Pdcaryehm?


No cintaehg now! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-22 07:50:51
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Jan 21 2009, 10:44 PM) [snapback]567945[/snapback]
At the start of the West highland Way - I went into the wee shop in Milngavie and asked for a tub of Vaseline and a couple of bananas! - you should have seen the look I got - f***ing hilarious!

If it's the wee shop I'm thinking about , the owner is a rampant poofter, and probably tripped over his dick as you exited.
mortonjag 2009-01-22 09:32:19
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 21 2009, 11:59 PM) [snapback]567981[/snapback]
I wonder, does Dandy Davie prefer a more priapic press? The Daily Rampant maybe, or the Evening Staunner? laugh.gif



Don't forget the Sunday Excess.

QUOTE(Mr H Palms @ Jan 22 2009, 09:26 AM) [snapback]568028[/snapback]
i dont know why the yanks are so excited about having a black president, zimbabwe has had one for years and hes been s***e

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Yes, but please understand that Hussein Abomo is a saintly man if everything the media tell us is true! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-22 11:11:01
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 22 2009, 10:48 AM) [snapback]568046[/snapback]
It is abundantly obvious that it was being used in its American sense, since that's where he was. The initial medical qualification in the USA is MD. That's not the name of his qualification, of course, but it's the equivalent where he's based, and has a cultural resonance (e.g. several TV shows, such as Doogie Howser, M.D., feature MD in the title, meaning that it is a well-known Americanism to represent a doctor.)

That it may be 'abundantly obvious' to you young man does not alter the fact that it is patently inaccurate, and published in a Scottish newspaper about a Scottish doctor who has 'come home'.

He is not an M.D., and having forsaken the NHS in which he trained, for the dizzy heights of Gretna, and an apparently ill fated fling at Yankee Soccer, he has little chance of ever attaining that prized post graduate award.

You know all that of course. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-22 11:45:44
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 22 2009, 11:21 AM) [snapback]568050[/snapback]
... from America. Meaning it is obvious.
I know he's not an MD, but I also know what an MD is in America, which is where he was.

I think you're just jealous of him for some reason and couldn't stand to see him getting a bit of credit, even though only a handful of people will have interpreted it in the way that you did.

Well you would, wouldn't you! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-22 11:47:17
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 22 2009, 11:40 AM) [snapback]568054[/snapback]
Hearty congratulations to all. Lovely name. Doubt we have had a player caled Logan before. (First name that is)

I don't think we've even had a Berry play for us.
mortonjag 2009-01-22 12:05:38
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 22 2009, 12:00 PM) [snapback]568061[/snapback]
Corrections added.

I think you've just got to see it as a 'percentages game' with Stevie Masterton. There's nobody else in the squad who comes anywhere near his ability at corners and 'dead ball' situations, and even one success can mean a victory.
mortonjag 2009-01-22 12:21:34 We've been doing better, particularly at home, and could have won against Dundee. I guess we'll be bookies' favourites for Saturday's match, yet I'm not convinced we have enough fire power to win it if they manage to get a goal or two.

I'm going for a 1-1 draw, with Jimbo scoring a rare goal.
mortonjag 2009-01-22 12:25:23
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 22 2009, 12:13 PM) [snapback]568068[/snapback]
all down the toilet wall?

There are umpteen versions-here's one I Googled:


Arty Farty
Threw a party,
And all the farts were there;
Tooty Frooti
Let a beauty,
And they all came up for air
mortonjag 2009-01-22 12:30:22
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Jan 22 2009, 12:24 PM) [snapback]568071[/snapback]
theier is hope for me yet laugh.gif

The thing is Pedro that most folk with a wee bit of savvy find it easy to spot dyslexia as distinct from sheer ignorance, for which there is no excuse! ph34r.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-22 12:49:26
QUOTE(suda @ Jan 22 2009, 12:41 PM) [snapback]568075[/snapback]
the Juniors run healthy viable clubs on a shoestring and produce a level of football which could survive in the lower leagues. It's all about cutting your cloth accordingly. What is better amatuer football or no football? Where are the stars of the future going to get a game?

Ps it's Kilmacolm Wanderers and they folded about 20 years ago when they were suspended from the league for their discipline record and the local Rugby club saw the opportunity to 'move' onto one of the best grass pitches in the area.

They were Kilmacolm Amateurs in my day-when did the name change? I can still remember us playing against Queens Park Strollers when they had a very young Bobby Clark in goals!
mortonjag 2009-01-22 13:18:57 big yellow bag

Always cheers me up!
mortonjag 2009-01-22 13:27:07 Lambie on Fergie
mortonjag 2009-01-22 15:31:29
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 22 2009, 03:29 PM) [snapback]568122[/snapback]
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Mortonjag's suffering a severe case of the grumps - he realises that some medical professionals can travel the world and have a far more enjoyable lifestyle than playing 'Spot the Bangladeshi' within the ethnic communities of Glasgow.

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mortonjag 2009-01-22 15:37:15
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jan 22 2009, 03:13 PM) [snapback]568120[/snapback]
My recollection of Fergie is of a drunken, foul-mouthed yob who was rightly banned from Douglas Park for his anti-social behaviour. A 'loveable rogue' right enough! blink.gif

that of a mere child Anus! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-22 15:44:59
QUOTE(wanderton @ Jan 22 2009, 03:39 PM) [snapback]568128[/snapback]
LEGEND!!!!!!!!!!!! Would this be the same "legend"who would stand outside douglas park spitting on players backs as they got on the team bus and call players every name under the sun not caring if there was kids or women around??
Yip a legend who will be missed!!! MY ARSE!!

Didn't you mean my bottom?
mortonjag 2009-01-22 16:02:12
QUOTE(wanderton @ Jan 22 2009, 03:57 PM) [snapback]568130[/snapback]
And i thought anus was your fav word??

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Anus is an anatomical term!

My favourite word is discombobulation.
mortonjag 2009-01-22 16:25:55
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 22 2009, 04:10 PM) [snapback]568135[/snapback]
I played for one of the Glagow Uni teams, possibly the 3rd X1, against Kilmacolm in the early 70s. I remember we won 3-2 and I scored the winner - I think possibly the only goal I ever scored for any Uni team, although as I played centre half or left back I rarely got anywhere near the opposing penalty area. I remember it was a really good pitch.

It was a lovely pitch in the Birkmyre Park, and was used in summer for cricket. Anecdotal perhaps, but the story was that at one point Rangers approached the Local Authority in an attempt to buy the turf for Ibrox.
mortonjag 2009-01-22 17:26:12
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 22 2009, 05:19 PM) [snapback]568170[/snapback]
Bend the rules a wee bit. Call them a pofo and they'll know what you mean.

Tthas oubste! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-22 18:52:02
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Jan 22 2009, 06:25 PM) [snapback]568185[/snapback]
I wasn't directly replying to you, sorry. smile.gif

I don't see why the guy who initially brought up McGuffie really had to.

FWIW I completely disagree with the both of you. McGuffie is a far better player than Jenkins. smile.gif

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mortonjag 2009-01-22 18:58:09
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 22 2009, 06:29 PM) [snapback]568187[/snapback]
Every now and then I need to get the vaseline out.

My long hard peice of wood just wont fit in to the designate holes and some times a wee bit of vasaline will give the right amount of glide so that not only is the fit comfortable but it is not so much that it may fall out. And also no damage will happen to my wood.
...the life and times of playing the bagpipes!

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mortonjag 2009-01-22 19:01:50
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 22 2009, 06:58 PM) [snapback]568198[/snapback]
That applies to just two of our posters I think, the sartorial soulmates being Dandy Davie McArthur and Tailored Tam McBrearty. A proper pair of posers. laugh.gif

As seen below:

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mortonjag 2009-01-22 19:07:58
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jan 22 2009, 06:24 PM) [snapback]568184[/snapback]
Muz..

I dispatched that flight this morning...why you not say hello?

It was flybe?

just to add....

he arrived this afternoon with some other wrestlers....BLOODY MASSIVE AND REALLY SCARY
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mortonjag 2009-01-22 19:10:28
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 22 2009, 07:07 PM) [snapback]568201[/snapback]
That's enough to make me sick!

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Which is which, d'ye reckon?
mortonjag 2009-01-22 19:23:39
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jan 22 2009, 07:13 PM) [snapback]568205[/snapback]
if they believe what it says, and think it doesnt have a pathetic bias, then yes
and maybe the nhs could be better, but the fact is there are hospitals open now, which wouldnt have been before, including local services here.
there is as much oil there as has already been removed, but more importantly, the party is keeping firm on its promise to lead the world in renewable energy, which in terms of fuel will be of as much benefit to the economy as the oil

...and the money has not been available to spend more efficiently elsewhere, but who gives a f***-we're alright Jack! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-22 19:27:01
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 22 2009, 07:24 PM) [snapback]568213[/snapback]
Yet another reasoned, well thought out argument from MJ. rolleyes.gif

FWIW, McGuffie gets a bit of a hard time on here when most of the time it's undeserved. At least he's made contributions to the team since joining...

Mortonjag concurs dear.
mortonjag 2009-01-22 19:36:19
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jan 22 2009, 07:29 PM) [snapback]568215[/snapback]
Aye, just thinking of his antics bring a smile to your face.

He had an unhealthy obsession with Wylie and detested him more than most for some reason. Any time we played Accies at Cappielow he's position himself in the WDE during the warm up and batter hell out the advertising boards whilst bellowing abuse at our keeper. Any time Wylie ran out and was greeted by Fergie you could see him visibly scunnered by it. laugh.gif

I mind another time the Shed sang "Fergie, Fergie what's the score?" His response was to give us the viccy frantically for a good few minutes - both facing us and facing away from us through his legs. He'd then grin, stick his tongue out and rub his hands like he was trying to start a fire - satisfied that his work was done.

Incidentally, anyone see Lambie's column today? He reckons Accies should have a minutes abuse for him. laugh.gif

Minutes applause would be apt if you ask me. He may have been foul mouthed but I seriously doubt he ever did anyone any harm. Fergie's biggest problem was football moving gradually away from being a working man's sport and him not being able to - or want to - adapt.

RIP. sad.gif


Nobody's actually said it so far, but I don't think Fergie was really 'the full shilling'.
mortonjag 2009-01-22 20:07:40
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 22 2009, 07:55 PM) [snapback]568226[/snapback]
Words nearly fail me. Hard to know into which open goal to score first.

The UK government has taken to organising its finances in such a way that expenditure doesn't trigger Barnett consequentials. E.g. olympics - that should lead to a lump sum coming our way but they bend the rules to avoid that happening. They obstruct attempts to build a new Forth Bridge at reasonable cost.

As for the old "North Sea oil is nearly finished" chestnut - they've been saying that since about 1974. Read the McCrone Report for starters to see what they were actually thinking - a bit different from what they were and are saying. You really must be a wee bit gullible - or possibly just dyed in the wool Labour, which amounts to the same thing.

As for what has this (Scottish) Government done for you - I have a list somewhere of what they did in just the first hundred days and it's a long list. Considering they are obstructed at every turn by the opposition parties and outnumbered heavily, they are doing a pretty good job. Anyone still want to see Labour back in power in Scotland?

A resounding NO from me but at least the last Health Minister had some experience and listened to advice unlike this hirsute cow!


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mortonjag 2009-01-22 20:15:55
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 22 2009, 08:10 PM) [snapback]568231[/snapback]
Aye ok, the pedants are revolting. I meant ‘senior’ not ‘full time’ and you all knew exactly what I meant.
Far too many clubs. The product is p1sh and that’s why football is dying on its arse.

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mortonjag 2009-01-22 20:28:29
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 22 2009, 08:18 PM) [snapback]568238[/snapback]
You really do have far too much time on your hands. You should take up a hobby.

I have many hobbies Peter!

mortonjag 2009-01-22 20:35:25
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 22 2009, 08:15 PM) [snapback]568233[/snapback]
Really. How childish.

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mortonjag 2009-01-22 20:52:05
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 22 2009, 08:17 PM) [snapback]568237[/snapback]
Source please. unsure.gif

1 Kings 17:8-16



13 Elijah said to her, "Don't be afraid. Go home and do as you have said. But first make a small cake of bread for me from what you have and bring it to me, and then make something for yourself and your son. 14 For this is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: 'The jar of flour will not be used up and the jug of oil will not run dry until the day the LORD gives rain on the land.' "

15 She went away and did as Elijah had told her. So there was food every day for Elijah and for the woman and her family. 16 For the jar of flour was not used up and the jug of oil did not run dry, in keeping with the word of the LORD spoken by Elijah.
mortonjag 2009-01-22 20:53:39
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 22 2009, 08:41 PM) [snapback]568247[/snapback]
Morton and Millions don't count as hobbies Douglas.

I can knit Peter.
mortonjag 2009-01-22 20:59:08
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 22 2009, 08:58 PM) [snapback]568255[/snapback]
Good for you. A proper hobby for an elderly person.

.....and bake.
mortonjag 2009-01-22 21:51:21
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Jan 22 2009, 09:11 PM) [snapback]568257[/snapback]
FFS get a room you two.

In answer to your question you would have to take into account several factors-mainly the diameter of the oesophagus.
mortonjag 2009-01-22 21:54:27
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 22 2009, 09:52 PM) [snapback]568278[/snapback]
Has midTONs been giving you lessons in animation?

I didn't think his arse was SO instantly recognisable.
mortonjag 2009-01-22 22:01:14
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jan 22 2009, 08:43 PM) [snapback]568249[/snapback]
Can't get the clip to work.

Was it a limousin?

So I herd.
mortonjag 2009-01-22 22:07:04
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 22 2009, 10:00 PM) [snapback]568283[/snapback]
I'll get the polis tae you.



Quick Edwards-scarper.... biggrin.gif




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mortonjag 2009-01-22 22:09:36
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 22 2009, 10:05 PM) [snapback]568287[/snapback]
Obviously Stranraers league position plays a big part in the apathy of their sleeping support ,did we not have a similar issue during our time living close to the edge of extinction . I wonder if the same financial situation was relavent whether we'd have had a benefactor ?

Even if the club can motivate the support there will have to be a great deal of good fortune for someone to come in .
I don't have any feelings good or bad towards Stranraer apart from a few seasons ago when they pipped us to promotion .

...and gave us ke..... shutup.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-22 22:22:06
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 22 2009, 10:09 PM) [snapback]568290[/snapback]
Far tooo much time on your hands laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

True-I need another DIY project and I'll disappear for a while-any offers...only £10 per hour! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-23 06:59:52 We recently had the thread on archetypes. This creature is a perfect example of the Union-Cooncillor-M.S.P scum who have Spurtle on his wanking chariot over Bawheid the Brave!


Bare faced lying cheat
mortonjag 2009-01-23 07:06:08
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 22 2009, 10:55 PM) [snapback]568314[/snapback]
That's cancelled out as they took Paul Walker away from us.

A Paul Walker type of player would be EXTREMELY useful right now.
mortonjag 2009-01-23 07:08:45
QUOTE(dmc @ Jan 23 2009, 12:22 AM) [snapback]568342[/snapback]
Thought they wee cousins!! blink.gif
Still see Steven around the town! (seen him yesterday in fact)

and yes there is a family resemblance!! laugh.gif

Saw Richard with some shady bint (could've been the lady in question) in
Burger King at the weekend, she had one of everything from the menu, he had a coffee!!
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Sounds like the start of a Rebus story! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-23 07:20:21
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Jan 23 2009, 12:17 AM) [snapback]568341[/snapback]
Thats the oppositions role thought isn't it??? To oppose the standing government?
As for the oil and Barnett argument, it's all propaganda and we read reports on the oil is running out, we read it's plentiful. We read about the Barnett formula with conflicting reports.
The fact is, we don't have the full revenue from the oil, no use counting the pennies if it's not in the bank! So we're stuck with Barnett's handouts and can only deal with what we are given by London.
So we get fed false pledges from SNP to get them into power, the electorate vote them in and within 4 years they see they are no better than Labour. The chance of a lifetime is gone. Solidarity without the tan!
You are not grasping what I and others are saying though. Yes, we know about a minority Government.
The whole debate is about "are SNP doing ok since they became our ruling party."
I like many others voted for the SNP to get away from New Labour, believing a new future and all that would come with it. But half way thru their 1st term we are seeing their mettle. No better than New Labour and the same false promises they fed us with for years. They are throwing away the real possibility of us standing on our own two feet.
And the answer is no, no matter how you dress it up by saying they saved the Rankin thats like getting the last rolo in the packet and being happy. Why settle for a concessionary token of keeping one unit when the whole Hospital service in the area need's saved.
Other failings include :The SNP also proposes;
a 50% increase in the provision of free nursery education for three and four-year-olds
Excellent! Now that they have frozen the Council Tax and every local authority now faces a massive shortfall what is one of the first things being cut by local authorites??? Nurseries! It's ok having the 50% where are parents going to utilise it?
a patient rights Bill, with waiting time guarantees
still waiting!
and direct elections to Scotland's health boards so local people can be more involved in healthcare decisions.
LOL LOL, The Health Boards are not taking the SNP on, Greater Glasgow has rejected it at every turn.
The SNP also plans to replace the council tax with a local income tax.
Mr Salmond said this would give pensioners and most families the "biggest tax cut in a generation".

Very good, again the council tax is hammering local authority budgets that they are now forced into charging pensioners for Home Help's. Local centres for the elderly are also being cut. They give with one hand and take with the other!

Fact: They under estimated the job and the made up figures that they conned the electorate with and it's coming home to roost.

As it stands the now they need £1bn to satisfy the pledges made while Swinney is mumbling about publishing consultations to prove otherwise. By the time the next election come's around Swinney, Sturgeon and Baw Heid will still be publishing consultations to prove they can count.


Correct. That is the main indictment. They are guilty of deliberate corporate deceit. They've been wanking each other off on the post election bandwagon for so long that they haven't even seen the said chickens.

Hell bloody mend that arrogant tumshie headed fud and his deluded band of nappy rashers.
mortonjag 2009-01-23 07:23:00
QUOTE(Capuan @ Jan 22 2009, 11:39 PM) [snapback]568334[/snapback]
what about their algerian cousin Mustafa?

and big sister Anita.
mortonjag 2009-01-23 08:16:17 I've only watched one live game-played at Hampden-if it hadn't been for the cheer leaders and razmataz I'd have left after 15 minutes. It's surely the most wearisome sport of all time.

My son played it at Uni. I can tell you for a fact that it IS physically demanding!
mortonjag 2009-01-23 08:57:37
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 23 2009, 08:23 AM) [snapback]568365[/snapback]
55 murders a year in Scotland from knives.

Where's Kenny? thumbdown.gif

Stabbin' a bloody haggis! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-23 08:58:57
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 23 2009, 08:29 AM) [snapback]568367[/snapback]
Not mention geography.

...and previous history Peter!
mortonjag 2009-01-23 09:08:46 We need our bathroom tiled.
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A mere bagatelle Peter!
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 23 2009, 08:48 AM) [snapback]568373[/snapback]
Tell him to not to bring his dogs.


If you mean those:


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I can leave them in Peter's car while I'm working. blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-23 09:41:57
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Jan 23 2009, 09:34 AM) [snapback]568384[/snapback]
Morton fans have to have a Boo Boy Ryan McGuffie is it at present Mahood was one after he came back from Notts forrest Chris Millar was anotherDean Keenan and Scott Bannerman never were think that says it all .Scotty lived on the back of that goal apart from doing very little else for 3 years. Even the Homer had to endure it at the end of his Morton career.

Deano got his fair share of it!

I agree though. I think McGuffie does a lot of 'unseen' stuff-getting into good positions off the ball etc. He's never going to be a 'Wham bammer' like Jimbo, who is often crap, rarely gets criticism, and is NEVER dropped.
mortonjag 2009-01-23 09:49:03
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 23 2009, 09:41 AM) [snapback]568389[/snapback]
About 11500 or thereabouts. Probably less if too many fat punters show up.

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Approximately 11500!

OOPS-thought you were Puggs. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-23 11:05:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 23 2009, 10:53 AM) [snapback]568406[/snapback]
There can be only one!

Indeed-I take it you're hard at work spending MY MUNNY! laugh.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-23 11:10:43 The only thing I ever splash on is motors. I buy hardly anything for my personal use! laugh.gif

The biggest outlay I've had in the last few months was a set of front tyres.
mortonjag 2009-01-23 11:15:01
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 23 2009, 10:51 AM) [snapback]568405[/snapback]
Firefox opens it in the browser smile.gif

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mortonjag 2009-01-23 11:18:54
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Jan 23 2009, 11:16 AM) [snapback]568414[/snapback]
So you dont use a car for personal use? ph34r.gif

Correct.
mortonjag 2009-01-23 11:20:18
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Jan 23 2009, 10:42 AM) [snapback]568402[/snapback]
There was a guy advertising to let a flat out on here. Its on the esplanade which is 5-10 mins from gourock if travel isnt a concern.

That was for a long term let, though.
mortonjag 2009-01-23 11:21:28
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jan 23 2009, 11:19 AM) [snapback]568419[/snapback]
Yesterday i bought quite an expensive outfit for a wedding. I shall mysteriously take it from the wardrobe in a couple of weeks and say "I'll just wear this, i've had it for ages". ph34r.gif

Who is the lucky groom Ms T? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-23 11:22:28
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 23 2009, 11:21 AM) [snapback]568421[/snapback]
laugh.gif Or 'beat me daddy, eight to the bar'.

Swingin'
mortonjag 2009-01-23 11:27:33
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jan 23 2009, 11:24 AM) [snapback]568426[/snapback]
Are you off your nut, would you get married for a 2nd time? unsure.gif

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Of course not-if I could turn the clock back I wouldn't get married for the first time! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-23 11:38:42
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jan 23 2009, 11:29 AM) [snapback]568428[/snapback]
One is enough for me rolleyes.gif . In saying that, most of my close pals are on to their 2nd husbands.

It's those starry eyed youngsters Mrs T. They choose mates for all the wrong reasons.

The order of priority should always be

1/ Money

2/ Reliability

3/ Shagworthiness

4/ Looks

5/ Age laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-23 11:55:56
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 23 2009, 11:49 AM) [snapback]568441[/snapback]
The shoes are stylish.
Denims for me are acceptable when painting the house.

You're young GG, at your age denims and the jacket will be acceptable casual wear.

...but must be removed before going outside?
mortonjag 2009-01-23 13:57:58
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 23 2009, 01:34 PM) [snapback]568490[/snapback]
A rubbish one who would get played clean through on goal then dribble out to the corner flag, try to cross it and put it right out for a goal-kick? Aye, really useful.

So you think we don't need wingers! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-23 14:06:17
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 23 2009, 01:45 PM) [snapback]568493[/snapback]
Sheridan did the total number you mean. He took on the case against the advice of his colleagues. He believes in democracy, just as long as you agree with him.

..and he's now been ignominiously booted oot of BB without making the slightest impression. The fleeting look in his eyes of 'how blody DARE they' when his name was called by that turd in the coat, totally gave the lie to all the pish about only wanting to be away from his shagbag and wean for two weeks.

Proctalgia Vera Thomas Est. mad.gif

mortonjag 2009-01-23 14:13:28
QUOTE(Toby @ Jan 23 2009, 02:07 PM) [snapback]568499[/snapback]
Yes, but that's my counter argument to Tonsilitis. By going to Glasgow, these folk are shunning Morton so as part of the population of Inverclyde, using his logic they don't deserve Morton.

We don't have the backing of the whole of Inverclyde and never will, so it's a bit of a pointless question. As someone who shuns my local junior team to go and watch a bigger club in the SFL I think it would be pretty contradictory for me to criticise these folk anyway, but can I ask, would you rather have, say 8-9000 inside Cappielow every week if it included these folk, bearing in mind alot of them aren't the most pleasant company or the 2-3000 we've got now? It would be a no-brainer for me, give me what we've got.

Toby, Sir, that is one of the most illogical statements you've ever made on this massage board. The Stranraer bumpkins are forsaking their ONLY football team to shag sheep, milk the coos, and do a bit of beachcoming.

QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 23 2009, 02:08 PM) [snapback]568500[/snapback]
Aye, we need wingers, but to me 'Paul Walker type of player' suggests 'crap player'. tongue.gif


Paul blew hot and cold. As a winger he could be FAR more effective than anything we have now. Sad but true.
mortonjag 2009-01-23 14:17:25
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 23 2009, 02:13 PM) [snapback]568503[/snapback]
Rather unkind of you to refer to Mrs Sheridan as a shagbag. What's she done to deserve it, if any woman deserves the term?

So sorry Mr Bam Edwards-I didn't mean to offend. Mrs Sheridan is the epitome of virtue and righteousness who would never lie under oath, let alone steal from her employers.

Instead of shagbag, may I call her baccy pouch?
mortonjag 2009-01-23 14:26:45
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Jan 23 2009, 02:16 PM) [snapback]568505[/snapback]
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I've stayed outwith Inverclyde for a number of years and in that time been to many games not involving Morton. I can tell you Morton away fans are the most vulgar foul mouthed I have known yet! Maybe I don't understand tho, as that may just passion laugh.gif


I see you've never been on the subway from Ibrox to Partick at five on a Saturday afternoon! laugh.gif


QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 23 2009, 02:23 PM) [snapback]568507[/snapback]
There's a difference between swearing a lot and being bigots.

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mortonjag 2009-01-23 14:29:48
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 23 2009, 02:23 PM) [snapback]568508[/snapback]
I think it's best to respect women, don't you? Unlike Shagger Sheridan and his pal Gruesome George who merely pretend to. biggrin.gif

Caveat emptor!
mortonjag 2009-01-23 14:34:31
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Jan 23 2009, 02:30 PM) [snapback]568511[/snapback]
Have you?

I honestly don't think bigotory is as bad between the Old Firm nowadays.


Indeed I have Sir. I lived in Partick for several years, and often used the subway when there had been a game at Greyskull. It's just as bad going from Ibrox to Buchanan St. though that was a less frequent journey for me.

Not all OF fans are bigots-far from it, but to equate Ton men with the worst of that lot is a dereliction of duty! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-23 14:41:57
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 23 2009, 02:39 PM) [snapback]568519[/snapback]
I meant respect with regards to her sexuality and humanity. 'Shagbag' is probably the West of Scotland equivalent to 'Ho' and 'Bitch' used in misogynistic, gang-bang rap culture. Call her a tea leaf and a fibber if you like, you never know, you might be justified. cool.gif

OK then-if you want to be so bloody precious about the unfairer sex-how about swagbag?
mortonjag 2009-01-23 14:44:23
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 23 2009, 02:41 PM) [snapback]568522[/snapback]
Who took the scissors to your tie?

Looks more like he's sawn both ends off his guitar!
mortonjag 2009-01-23 14:46:36
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Jan 23 2009, 02:41 PM) [snapback]568521[/snapback]
Gentlemen,

A poster alluded to local people who follow the Old Firm as not too pleasant. I pointed out in my time following football, Morton away fans are just as impleasant old fellows. I was alluding to general behaviour and not bigotry.
Anyway, that aside. Stranraer look as if they could be f*cked! How does a small team like that build up £250k debt

You were WRONG! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-23 14:52:56
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Jan 23 2009, 02:48 PM) [snapback]568528[/snapback]
It's all about opinions silly billy

It's NOT and you are WRONG. laugh.gif

I'm always embarrassed to bring this up, but my younger son's a season ticket holder at Greyskull, while my wayward darling daughter's Tim hubby takes her to Porkheid. They all agree that the behaviour of the scum element on either side is beyond comparison, and an embarrassment to decent OF fans!
mortonjag 2009-01-23 14:55:55
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 23 2009, 02:51 PM) [snapback]568529[/snapback]
Bloody hell, I've just seen the price of Davie's kleid. Business must be good.

I'm not even looking. I can get a half decent pair of dress breeks in Asda or Tesco for about a tenner!
mortonjag 2009-01-23 15:01:10
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Jan 23 2009, 02:59 PM) [snapback]568533[/snapback]
Of course it is. Perhaps I'm blinkered to what's happening around me, but I've been to Ibrox and Parkhead and even an Old Firm game. I have never seen or heard anything to write home about.

So have many many polis and stewards who go home thereafter! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-23 15:03:07
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 23 2009, 01:59 PM) [snapback]568497[/snapback]
I'm trying my best...think today I may have spent about £2000 of your money smile.gif
However on other days I can spend £20k plus of it.

If this went straight to me I would be very grateful...as it doesn't then all I can say is eff off smile.gif

The lid's off our big wheelie bin-get it sorted NOW! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-23 15:05:24
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Jan 23 2009, 03:03 PM) [snapback]568536[/snapback]
Ach well each to their own.

3PM finish in a Friday, I'm away home. Here's for a Ton victory tomorrow.

Bawbag! bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-23 15:14:44
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 23 2009, 01:22 PM) [snapback]568484[/snapback]
An absolute must for the Sporran while on away trips is a wee tin of Vaseline.
Cannie beat vaseline for stopping the chaffing caused by knackers swinging under the old Kilt.

Having said that me and my mate forgot to get any on way to Paris and used hair wax smile.gif but our other pal whoi won't wear our national attire was using the same hair wax for 3 days before we admitted our guilt. (and he still goes with us ohmy.gif tongue.gif )

In one of the poshest part of Paris the Chemist was a tad bemused by my request for Vaseline until me and the pal proceeded to 'get oor hawns up oor Kilts' to relieve the situation. Then he laughed. laugh.gif

Two blokes in tartan skirts tossing themseves off in a busy Paris pharmacy.


That IS funny! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-23 15:21:04
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Jan 23 2009, 03:17 PM) [snapback]568544[/snapback]
you think the Saterday’s are hot till you relies that 2 of them ware in s club juniors then you fell like a dirty old bugger ph34r.gif

I assume you are describing some pop band pedro. Feeling like a dirty old bugger is nothing to be ashamed of! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-23 15:25:08
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Jan 23 2009, 03:23 PM) [snapback]568547[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-01-23 15:29:21
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 23 2009, 03:19 PM) [snapback]568545[/snapback]
Aye the old vas protected your ears in the scrum when I played rugby , although some basturd sabotaged my tub and mixed it with deep heat wacko.gif , must have had a coupon like a tomato.

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mortonjag 2009-01-23 15:30:51
QUOTE(Deego @ Jan 23 2009, 03:29 PM) [snapback]568551[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDWhat a glaicet looking gommerrel.
mortonjag 2009-01-23 15:39:17
QUOTE(Rossco @ Jan 23 2009, 03:36 PM) [snapback]568553[/snapback]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7846815.stm
Truly sickened by this especially as I have a 3 year old.

Belgian man tricked his way into a creche & starts to knife the children.

Why would anyone do that to kids?

Hope the guy gets strung up.

Sometimes it's easier not to try to understand. Those people are better exterminated but they ARE mentally ill.
mortonjag 2009-01-23 15:56:26
QUOTE(Deego @ Jan 23 2009, 03:51 PM) [snapback]568558[/snapback]
Aye, I would. Although there seems to be a lack of breasts. Any more pics so I can judge properly?

Is this Frankie male or otherwise? dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-23 16:03:39 It was frosty in Glesca this morning with black ice on the roads and folk having to clean ice of their cars. Minimum Greenock overnight temperature is forecast for 0 deg C.

bbc weather

I'm assuming Cappielow will be fine.
mortonjag 2009-01-23 16:08:54
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 23 2009, 04:04 PM) [snapback]568564[/snapback]
You could always just replay one of the several chick flicks you have next to your pink straighteners.

Does your 'pink' straighten yet SPARROT?
mortonjag 2009-01-23 16:13:32
QUOTE(NonTon @ Jan 23 2009, 04:06 PM) [snapback]568565[/snapback]
Technically the last thing I bought was a turkey sandwich for my lunch, but apart from that:

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mortonjag 2009-01-23 16:16:15
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 23 2009, 04:14 PM) [snapback]568574[/snapback]
I dont really fancy any of those burds, they all look a bit snobby and not really yer typical Greenock burds, none of them have got big t1ts either.

They could be well hidden.
mortonjag 2009-01-23 16:18:25 My brother once spoke to Bruce Forsyth in the airport.

He was SO tempted to come out with 'Nice to see you'! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-23 16:21:07
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 23 2009, 04:10 PM) [snapback]568568[/snapback]
Erm....everywhere I was in Glasgow today was not icey in the slightest, and this was at half 8 this morning.

And this includes untreated areas smile.gif

I hope you are not accusing me of fibbery young man. G43 was most certainly dodgy, and I'm sure Bamland would have been worse-though he claims that's not Glesca.

It's common knowledge that city centres are usually a couple of degrees warmer than the suburbs.

Oh-and sorry Puggs-it's


ICY
mortonjag 2009-01-23 16:23:56
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 23 2009, 04:12 PM) [snapback]568570[/snapback]
Contact Land Services then, that's not me :

BAWBAG
mortonjag 2009-01-23 16:29:29
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Jan 23 2009, 04:23 PM) [snapback]568579[/snapback]
http://www.xcweather.co.uk/

This link I find to be very accurate for the weather forecast, better than the BBC although it's not bad.

So looks like game on, and hopefully three more points for the Mighty Morton!
ps MJ I'm told that the correct name for the city centre in the context in which you used it is "an urban heat island".


That's like calling a tea caddy a dessicated leaf container, but there one goes!


QUOTE(tontric @ Jan 23 2009, 04:24 PM) [snapback]568581[/snapback]
In support of the Jag I should mention that I live in Glasgow and I had to scrape my car this morning !

F*CK PUGGS! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-23 19:21:29
QUOTE(Toby @ Jan 23 2009, 06:03 PM) [snapback]568616[/snapback]
Jona,

gourock_ton does this on occasion whenever there's any sort of incident involving our support, it's his way of being controversial and antagonising people. If he was an East Fife fan for example, he'd be on their board telling them how they were the worst support in the world. It's pretty tedious to be honest, so reacting to it only gives him an unjustified feeling of importance. He's best ignored smile.gif .

In reality, the make up of our support is probably pretty typical of most clubs- a few families, pensioners, some neds, stattos, lads that like going with their mates, casuals, young boys and women. No point in mentioning that though because it doesn't upset anyone.

Talk about taking a sledgehammer to crack a nut. All he needs to do is something like this:


Irons experienced-don't make me laugh!!!! rolleyes.gif


JIM DUFFY HAS MORE EXPERIENCE IN ONE OF HIS LITTLE TOOTSIES



TTG Davie. thumbdown.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-23 20:44:39
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 23 2009, 08:21 PM) [snapback]568651[/snapback]
Duffy couldn't lace Davie's boots. In fact Duffy could lace McInally's boots.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

neither could JM! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-23 20:45:59
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 23 2009, 07:34 PM) [snapback]568639[/snapback]
I don't work in the city centre happy.gif

Did I say that you do? dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-23 20:46:56
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jan 23 2009, 07:56 PM) [snapback]568647[/snapback]
I doubt Jamie will even make the bench.

Inside information, Anus? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-23 20:48:22
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 23 2009, 08:20 PM) [snapback]568650[/snapback]
huh.gif

ewes? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-23 20:50:29
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Jan 23 2009, 07:47 PM) [snapback]568644[/snapback]
That's the easy way out, p***k should be tortured every day for the rest of his life. mad.gif

Don't be ridiculous-that costs MUNNY.
mortonjag 2009-01-23 20:54:39
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 23 2009, 08:42 PM) [snapback]568662[/snapback]
Huh? What's my big stick got to do with anything?

It was metaphorical Peter-no connection whatsoever with your little worm.
mortonjag 2009-01-23 20:57:37
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jan 23 2009, 08:55 PM) [snapback]568677[/snapback]
I used to have Windows 3.11.

GIRFUY!!

Seconded-those kids need their effin baws booted in.
mortonjag 2009-01-23 21:00:25
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jan 23 2009, 05:52 PM) [snapback]568614[/snapback]
get the filter aff tae fuck

How the f***did you do that?
mortonjag 2009-01-23 21:04:48 Welcome home Bryan-I'll bet you're thankful for all those dedicated nurses and doctors! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-23 21:05:59
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 23 2009, 09:01 PM) [snapback]568682[/snapback]
Huh? What's my little worm got to do with anything?

Nothing I guess Peter. Tell it to go f*ck itself.
mortonjag 2009-01-23 21:58:36 I think Irons would be an excellent manager for Caley and leave us with the opportunity to bring in experience at long last!
mortonjag 2009-01-23 22:09:10 £14.29
mortonjag 2009-01-23 22:14:07
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 23 2009, 10:11 PM) [snapback]568731[/snapback]
Gaggle? huh.gif

Muddle? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-23 22:24:36
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jan 23 2009, 10:20 PM) [snapback]568738[/snapback]
Wrong!

(7 pages coming up wink.gif )

laugh.gif

That bloody monkey! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-23 22:26:00
QUOTE(vespaton @ Jan 23 2009, 10:23 PM) [snapback]568740[/snapback]
We already have an experienced manager thanks !!!

Everything's relative I guess! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-24 07:27:50
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jan 23 2009, 10:58 PM) [snapback]568763[/snapback]
wink.gif

To my surprise, it seemed to capture the popular imagination for some reason.

I did say in my (quickly edited) original post that it was the board equivalent of those quiz-call shows on ITV. dry.gif

You should be grateful I didn't charge a premium rate post charge.

I think that was in extremely poor taste-I've a mind to report you to the Mods. That wee Monkey has been up all bloody night with his calculator after I told him to get the answer or he wouldn't be at Scapa today.

SCANDALOUS! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-24 07:38:46
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 24 2009, 01:30 AM) [snapback]568808[/snapback]
I read Gianluca Vialli's book comparing Italian and English ( and effectively Scottish) football a while ago. One of the things he talked about was how he couldn't understand our culture of deciding a manager is a failure because he didn't do well at a few clubs. He said in Italy they believe coaches who have failed will have gained experience and will learn from their mistakes and that's why they often get other chances at the top level.

Or to put it differently, why does the Shooglemeister always sign guys who HAVEN'T had time to learn?

Because he's a power crazy old fud of course! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Jan 24 2009, 01:32 AM) [snapback]568809[/snapback]
Irons is doing a decent job, dont know why you would like to change that MJ. AS far as I am aware, Duffy is managing Brechin which are a division below us. Thats his level I reckon.

Some folk are very easily satisfied my lad. It has long since been my regular observation that the average Ton fan has as much vision as a monocular bat on valium.

I'm not advising that DI should go at the moment. If for some reason he did (say the Inverness Board are a shower of fruit loops) I could easily see somebody else walking in and doing much better in a relatively short time-indeed Grady would probably be appointed caretaker, and the boys would be told for the first time to 'get out there, enjoy yourselves, and beat those c*nts', rather than being treated like eleven little remote control automatons. blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-24 08:02:40
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Jan 23 2009, 11:26 PM) [snapback]568773[/snapback]
Oh please, please, FFS pleeeeeease let Irons be one of them.

I agree.

I love getting shouted at! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-24 08:04:26 BTT.

Hard frost all over the cars and ground here at the moment.

BBC forecast for Greenock includes sun, rain, cloud and snow, so they obviously haven't a bloody clue. What's the score down there? huh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-24 08:26:02 I empathise with both sides here.

In truth, the simplest and cheapest solution is painless extermination for the general good. It's a once only cost to the taxpayer and removes any worries about escape and re-offending.

I'm not advocating capital punishment across the board but in such situations it makes common sense.

Don't even bother drawing me into an argument about the morality of killing a 'sick' man. In the same way that war can be deemed a necessary evil, so can this-protecting the general good is paramount.
mortonjag 2009-01-24 08:43:28
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 24 2009, 08:30 AM) [snapback]568833[/snapback]
Surely an 'ugliness of munters' would the correct collective?

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-24 08:45:18
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 24 2009, 08:29 AM) [snapback]568832[/snapback]
I'm afraid you would have to have the 'should we withdraw from the EU?' debate before the 'should we have the death penalty?' debate.

Not if the overpaid eejits in Brussels saw sense about an issue like this.
mortonjag 2009-01-24 09:01:42
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jan 24 2009, 08:40 AM) [snapback]568834[/snapback]
Don't forget Ardilles. Would any of the guys desperate for Irons to go be happy with one of that lot? Inverness are an SPL club and the list of potential managers hardly makes exhilarating reading.



Just because you, or I, or any other fan can't instantly name a good replacement most certainly does not preclude his existence.

If you go to your quack with a big sore on your arse and tell him the cream he gave you isn't working, he presumably won't reply that 'unless you can name a better one I can't cure you'! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-24 09:07:42
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 24 2009, 09:02 AM) [snapback]568843[/snapback]
You very strongly alluded to it.

If you didn't mean that you were thinking I worked in the city centre then you are obviously lying wink.gif

MJ for MSP?

Well here's what you said:

Erm....everywhere I was in Glasgow today was not icey in the slightest, and this was at half 8 this morning.

And this includes untreated areas



Given that almost every (if not every) suburb was icy yesterday morning, I confess that I DID suspect that you work in the INNER city where it's generally warmer.

Are you now going to announce that your office is up the top o' the Faifley?
mortonjag 2009-01-24 09:13:15
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 24 2009, 09:04 AM) [snapback]568844[/snapback]
I know but I would still like the answer explained to me smile.gif

He made the answer up Puggs!

Anybody who was daft enough to get involved in his ludicrously vague description got mugged-including my wee monkey. Fortunately mortonjag had the wisdom to stay out. drink.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-24 09:15:15
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Jan 24 2009, 09:13 AM) [snapback]568848[/snapback]
I mind him well from his RMT day's. Some can and some can't, this guy is a total can't!

Ubsolutely!
mortonjag 2009-01-24 09:18:26
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Jan 24 2009, 09:09 AM) [snapback]568846[/snapback]
Airdrie v Dundee 1-2
Clyde v County 0-0
Morton v Livi 2-1
QotS v Partick 0-2
St J v Dunfermline 1-1
Giving the TON the benefit of the doubt

foobs


I'll try then!


Airdrie 1 Dundee 1
Clyde 2 County 1
Ton 1 Livi 1
Queens 1 Thistle 0
Saints 2 Pars 2
mortonjag 2009-01-24 09:21:27
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 24 2009, 07:37 AM) [snapback]568825[/snapback]
We didn't do it in the Chemist ohmy.gif

We done in on the street much to the amusement of the lass in the next shop. I swear through my beer goggles she was capturing us on film. tongue.gif

That must have come very close to indecent exposure! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-24 09:26:49
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Jan 24 2009, 09:20 AM) [snapback]568851[/snapback]
Rarely gets criticism !!!!!!

YOU never stop criticising Jimbo, most of it unwarranted .

But not all.

Thought you were supposed to be a supporter ?????

Foobs rolleyes.gif

Away and stop talking sh*te foobs. I criticise him for what he's BAD at, and I praise his fitness, work ethic, and energy.

....AND there's no need for your cheek about 'being a supporter' either. Far too many are far too easily conned by the second rate p*sh that's served up as football.

A decent left winger would soon show up your Jimbo for what he really is-a speedboat with no bloody rudder.
mortonjag 2009-01-24 09:39:57
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 24 2009, 09:31 AM) [snapback]568855[/snapback]
You can say it....you were wrong happy.gif

And you can believe whatever you want re where I work

I believe you're just another poor unemployed Caley graduate who's too proud to admit it.

You may of course provide proof to the contrary should you wish to gain any credibility on this thread! shutup.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-24 09:46:33
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jan 24 2009, 09:39 AM) [snapback]568856[/snapback]
I didn't make anything up.

I went into Zavvi, Sauchiehall Street. Tried to buy four books exactly as described. Queued for ages, got to till, was told they only take cash, went to bank, got back, queued again, and was told the price was £17.17.

Ergo, the correct answer to the original question: "How much was I charged at the till" is £17.17.

My "ludicrously vague description" was all the information that was available to me as I approached the checkout.

The answer was not easier or harder to work out on those ITV Quiz Call-type programmes, that I alluded to in my original post.

Anyway, this must be a candidate for most tragic thread in the history of this board so let's but it to bed now.


You were guilty of deceiving an innocent little monkey.

I went to buy two tyres. The advertised price was £148 each and there was no discount for buying more than one.

What was I charged?

Simple answer- £296!


BUT

I failed to mention that the garage owner was drunk, it was Christmas, and his wife was expecting their seventh child to a Chinaman!

oh--and the b*stard still charged me £296. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-24 09:53:18
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jan 24 2009, 03:18 AM) [snapback]568821[/snapback]
And my VW is now officially one third porsche...(wee smiley showing pretentious git face)

M.A.N Davie!

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mortonjag 2009-01-24 09:58:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 24 2009, 09:55 AM) [snapback]568863[/snapback]
I may wish to, but I wont.

I was, however, on the dole
from June to September wink.gif

ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif

Shame on you.

Anyway you DO work in 'the inner city'-I've checked so don't bother to argue! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-24 10:00:51
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 24 2009, 09:59 AM) [snapback]568866[/snapback]
FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDAre you calling Puggs a wee poosy?
mortonjag 2009-01-24 10:02:45
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 24 2009, 09:59 AM) [snapback]568865[/snapback]
What, no cry of 'yet another un-warranted attack on poor mortonjag'? You're getting mellow in your old age. wink.gif

You f*ck off as well-you're late out of bed this morning anyway.

'Early to bed and early to rise makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise'.


mortonjag 2009
mortonjag 2009-01-24 10:11:44
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 24 2009, 10:00 AM) [snapback]568868[/snapback]
Ah but you said city centre. You may class where I am as inner-city - in fact, knowing you you will just to try and make it sound like you are correct - but it is not city centre. And I wouldn't even class it as inner city wink.gif

It's common knowledge that city centres are usually a couple of degrees warmer than the suburbs.

That's what I said!

You chose to assume that I was claiming you work in the city centre, when in fact in KNOW you work in the inner city which is also warmer than the suburbs as you had correctly witnessed. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-24 10:14:41
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 24 2009, 10:04 AM) [snapback]568870[/snapback]
It's certainly not worked for you, so not sure I should follow that theory. smile.gif

I am hale and hearty, wealthy beyond my needs, and patently have wisdom far surpassing the minds of the average poster! cool.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-24 10:16:48
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 24 2009, 09:52 AM) [snapback]568861[/snapback]
No torture, no search for justice, no means to try and alleviate the family’s pain. No waiting for some f***ing psychiatrist to attempt to dismantle the guilt party’s brain 'to understand how a mind works to help prevent future slaughtering'.

Just one bullet in the back of the head done quietly and away from public glare.

Then let the poor families affected try and pick up the pieces.

As Bernard Matthews was wont to say.


BOOTIFUL! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-24 10:18:20
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 24 2009, 10:11 AM) [snapback]568873[/snapback]
Already managed that in Brussells when I scaled a fence, dropped down the other side only for ma kilt to get caught on the spike. Result, myself suspended upside down with the kilt over my head with my danglies on full view of 10k Scots and locals.
Nobody helped me but I could hear plenty of clicks of cameras blush.gif . I have still to come across any on the net but i'm sure they are out there somewhere. ph34r.gif

I take it the spike healed satisfactorily.
mortonjag 2009-01-24 10:35:41
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 24 2009, 10:22 AM) [snapback]568879[/snapback]
You are Douglas Rae ohmy.gif



Indeed young man-I have finally been outed-I am he:

TODAY'S VISITORS


We welcome the entire contingent that will come from Livingstone, a name which conjures up visions of explorations, and I have every confidence that we will today be exploring any weaknesses in their defence, and to that end I have had a word with our most excellent manager David Irons, whom I'm sure you will all agree has at last 'got it all together' and have advised him in no uncertain terms that the best form of defence is attack, and their party will include their latest Chairman from Italy I think, along with manager Peter Haggarty whom I've known personally for many a long year and cannot speak highly enough of, not forgetting the backroom staff and players plus a good turnout of 'Lions' supporters, and I am sure the match will be closely contested but with home advantage I am hopeful that the points will remain at Cappielow, and you, the best fans in Scotland can play your part man by man, woman by woman, and child by child by roaring the boys on to what I hope will be an exhilarating and satisfying victory.

Yours aye

Douglas.
mortonjag 2009-01-24 10:38:38
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 24 2009, 10:23 AM) [snapback]568880[/snapback]
Ah so you are just going to babble on about facts that have no bearing on what we are talking about?

Honestly MJ...the role of a politician awaits you smile.gif

10/10 there is still hope!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-24 10:41:11 Lets hope the 'S' stays on the SPEEDO label! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-24 10:45:11
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 24 2009, 10:32 AM) [snapback]568883[/snapback]
That’s a contentious issue, I had an argument with a spike fence when I was 20. the spike fence won. I now have 3 arseholes. ph34r.gif

The Morton Board has more!
mortonjag 2009-01-24 10:47:56
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 24 2009, 10:40 AM) [snapback]568892[/snapback]
I even used the 3 dots for ellipses, not 2...and certainly not 4!

Proud Jag MSP?

Come to think about it I could do a far better job than that wee Nickerless one, AND arrive clean shaven to all public events.
mortonjag 2009-01-24 10:51:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 24 2009, 10:45 AM) [snapback]568897[/snapback]
God yes!

If it fell off you would go mental correcting his spelling and laziness in using a shorthand version of a word wink.gif

Indeed. He's a generously proportioned lad, wouldn't you say?
mortonjag 2009-01-24 10:54:17
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 24 2009, 10:48 AM) [snapback]568899[/snapback]
Maybe so but she would have the bigger baws out of the two of you smile.gif

The size of the baws is often inversely proportional to the quantity of intracranial grey matter-one of the recurring problems on our massage board! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-24 11:14:19
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 24 2009, 11:06 AM) [snapback]568904[/snapback]
Watching cars in my street struggle to get up and down. Couple of women just now making an arse of things as i type, hilarious, just black ice everywhere biggrin.gif

No mention of any problem with the pitch on the official site. Looks like game on.
mortonjag 2009-01-24 12:24:41 The say in the States-send your kid to Medical School and keep a lawyer in a job! laugh.gif

Anyway-they say many things-all the best Trick-keep yer troosers on in case you get legal AIDS! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-24 12:27:25
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 24 2009, 11:56 AM) [snapback]568946[/snapback]
ATTENTION ALL WHITE FOLKS

Report to the cotton fields at 7am sharp Monday morning.

Seven a.m.-see I always knew that Abomo bloke was something of a liberal.
mortonjag 2009-01-24 12:29:51
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Jan 24 2009, 11:55 AM) [snapback]568945[/snapback]
Thought he was going to Stirling Albion?

C'mon

LEAFY
mortonjag 2009-01-24 12:31:51
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 24 2009, 12:29 PM) [snapback]568962[/snapback]
It's a training day.

No beatings till Tuesday then?
mortonjag 2009-01-24 12:33:33
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 24 2009, 12:25 PM) [snapback]568960[/snapback]
£17.17

Save yourself Andy and don't read on.

Oh wait a minute ..... this'll be at the end now.

Ah well, commiserations Andy. You all feel as fulfilled as we do now - with still no explanation of the answer OR why anyone would pony up more money for books that are marked with lower prices.

I demand answers, I demand the truth ....

TonInDublin

Stop whining and email the Club!
mortonjag 2009-01-24 12:45:04 I shamelessly confess that I wouldn't know one of those bands from the other, and I do like music.

As several have suggested, one man's meat is another's poison.

In their day the Beatles were universally seen as unbelievably good. I still like much of their stuff while some seems a bit passe. I didn't appreciate the Stones in those days, but now like most of their albums.

TBH I can't really get 'hung up' about music the way our kids seem to do. I stick on the car radio, and if what's on's easy listening, that does.

This, however, IS unbeatable.

Shoogly and the Shufflers


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mortonjag 2009-01-24 12:47:53
QUOTE(grnklad2006ton @ Jan 24 2009, 12:45 PM) [snapback]568978[/snapback]
Yes game DEFO ON the place is busy up here already with cars and stewards. The we morton shop from smiths is also just setting up. Fu**ing freezing wind mind you ohmy.gif .........

TY-you've just reminded me that I've to buy a wee scarf for Cheeky! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-24 12:49:47
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jan 24 2009, 12:37 PM) [snapback]568968[/snapback]
a wee shitty trick of the motherfuckin trade laugh.gif

f***in' smart wee c*** eh! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-24 12:52:10
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 24 2009, 12:49 PM) [snapback]568981[/snapback]
Upper Port 15 mins ago.

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDFrom the motors I'd say that picture was taken in winter 66-67.
mortonjag 2009-01-24 13:00:04
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 24 2009, 12:43 PM) [snapback]568975[/snapback]
I did. They said they've had to employ ten full time staff to reply to all the questions from some mad lad called Ernie from Glasgow, and that my query was now 10,487th in the queue.

They also asked me did I know anybody called Shoogly, cos apparently they're stuck on question 1.

TonInDublin

I've been getting a lot of emails in Polish. They all say the same thing:



Pan Rae jest bardzo zajęty i próbę uporania się z zapytanie jak najszybciej. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-24 13:33:13
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 24 2009, 01:29 PM) [snapback]568990[/snapback]
I didn't know Celtic had given him a column in their matchday programme. laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2009-01-24 18:33:55 It WASN'T the players fault-I guess Smith will be the scapegoat and he'll blame incredible bad luck, but he came out at half time thinking all he had to do was contain them, instead of piling on the pressure for that crucial third goal. He failed to substitute an off form Jimbo with Iain Russell, and Jenkins should have been on half way through the second half.

Good coach-probably, but tactician and man manager-NOT A BLOODY CLUE.

Only one man is ultimately to blame for the loss of two vital points.

FUCKING SHAMEFUL! dry.gif mad.gif mad.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-25 09:40:37
QUOTE(Deego @ Jan 24 2009, 06:41 PM) [snapback]569272[/snapback]
I don't understand this love of Chris Smith you have, does he remind you of an ex boyfriend you still love or something? He does his best but he's simply not good enough at left back. I wouldn't just blame him for their 2nd goal though, since no-one decided to close down whoever was crossing the ball in to begin with.

As for your point about replacing McAlister with Russell, I agree, but we know he'll never take him off. He's our best player, didn't you know that? rolleyes.gif

Correct my friendly little faggot, and he's light years ahead of wee pet DM who gets praised to the ceiling every time he puts in an appearance at full back. I might want to shag him, but I DON'T love him. I have no desire to see utility players forced to 'do their best'. Smith is a central defender just as Walker is a midfielder, and Superkev a cunt for proving yesterday that he's a footballer, even if nobody knows where he should be playing! laugh.gif

QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 24 2009, 06:47 PM) [snapback]569290[/snapback]
Smith put the ball in the net. He is responsible for the equiliser. I'm sick of his shite more than I am of Irons.

I'm sick of bad spelling! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(cmonaton @ Jan 24 2009, 06:48 PM) [snapback]569294[/snapback]
Ian Russell wouldn't have made an ounce of difference.If we had a bit more effort from midfield,instead of crumbling like a pack of cards,we would have never have lost the game.


I fundamentally disagree-maybe not a stone of difference, but McAlister yesterday was just SO bad that I'd have put Cappie on for him!
mortonjag 2009-01-25 09:56:22 I'ts time the myth about McAlister was blown right out of the water. Yesterday he was guilty of CRIMINAL irresponsibility. He's been blasting good chances over the bar for months and nobody bats an eyelid because 'he's our best player and big clubs are interested' What a load of keech!

His first half version of Newby at Dundee was absolute pantomime gold. I hope it's been captured on video. If ever I needed evidence that the only thing he can be trusted to blast into a net is a ping pong ball, that was it, and as Toon asks-will Irons even mention it-well probably NO-because you see 'Jimbo' is a local boy, one of Mr Rae's favourites, a model professional, and superb at tracking back-things which CLEARLY matter more to the 'Headie' that his ineffable profligacy near goal. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-25 10:07:18 I stood in my usual place at half time -having my wee drag. It felt quite good to be so well ahead. I was beginning to think DI was learning, and I was saying that to the lady next to me when I realised-no Bryan! Then another of the wheelchair band arrived for his piss, and the three of us were blethering when I remembered forza. I looked everywhere for him-everywhere my cigarette would allow-and nowhere to be seen!

Oh well-there's always next week! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-25 10:11:32
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 24 2009, 06:56 PM) [snapback]569303[/snapback]
David McGregor is (just about) better than Chris Smith.

At what? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-25 15:16:36
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 25 2009, 10:21 AM) [snapback]569547[/snapback]
If you're seriously suggesting that Smith is better than McGregor, then you should ask a close relative to call the men in white coats - there's a bed at Dykebar waiting for you.

I'm suggesting nothing Ratarse. I'm telling you, and don't argue. dry.gif

QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 25 2009, 01:19 PM) [snapback]569602[/snapback]
I would've introduced Jenkins to try and turn the game in our favour. He would have been fresh and, as someone else said, likes to drive at people and this might've put us back on the front foot. Even one or two of his driving runs would've given the defence some respite. He would've also plugged a gap and has a physical presence even if he isn't a ball winning defensive midfielder. If anything I would've put Paartalu and Jenkins on together.

The whole point is that yet again Irons tried to protect his lead instead of going for the killer third goal. From where I sit I can hear all the shouts from the dugout, and just before they made the subs, Hegarty and his assistant were shouting 'we can do this' to his players. It seemed so ridiculous at first that I burst out laughing, and even when wee Griffiths swapped those horrible lime green boots I thought we'd still be ok, but sure as fate Irons played them deeper and deeper to Hegarty's delight. He is indeed a tactical [attachment=5095:Turnip_04_10312007.jpg]

QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jan 25 2009, 02:00 PM) [snapback]569612[/snapback]
Absolute rubbish. The 1st goal was sloppy defending and the second goal was an absolutely horrible piece of defending from Smith, there is no two ways about it. Irons cannot control our left back when he decides that from 2 yards out it is a good idea to make a diving header towards his own goal despite nobody being around him. If Cuthbert did not shout to claim the ball then he must also shoulder some of the blame.

In the first half, our football was a joy to behold, even if our finishing wasn't at times and into the second half we created as many chances again with Weatherson, Wake and McAlister all missing very good chances and Masterton having a goal-bound free-kick deflected over.

Only one man to blame? Quite correct, and he wore number 3. That may seem harsh, as Smith (and the rest of the team) had good games yesterday, but he ultimately is to blame for the result.

We do have a tendency to lose goals late on, and perhaps that is something that could be looked into, but Sir Alex Ferguson would have struggled to win that game yesterday when player after player missed the target and eventually one found the wrong target.

On a positive note, we played some tremendous football yesterday and if we take that into the St Johnstone game next week, I don't see why we can't take the win.

That is a classical example of infantile logic. If we're going to explain away Irons' incompetence by wee sums you should also be considering two utterly unforgiveable blunders by Jimbo when he was under NO pressure! Some folk just don't like the manager being criticised and you are plainly one of those. Irons is a 'big mouth', or so I'm told, and those lips are quaintly ovine-not that I'd mind if he'd stop making us look sheepish after ninety minutes! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif

QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 25 2009, 02:10 PM) [snapback]569617[/snapback]
The first half we totally dominated Livvi, likewise the first 15 minutes or so of the 2nd. That was due to the constant pressure we were putting on them, mainly by Finlayson and the front 2, aided by Masterton in the middle, so what does Irons do? Pulls Masterton back into a deeper role once more, and yet again it turned the tide against us - at times Stevie was playing a sweeper role! This is a change that happens far too often, and every time it costs us dearly. Around the same stage, it was becoming obvious that Wake was starting to tire, and that little bit of fatigue released the pressure on the Livvi defence - as soon as he started to toil, Russell should have been straight on to pick up where Wake left off, as they were extremely vulnerable to runs in behind. He would have caused mayhem in the Livvi defence.

At the same time as the above two things, Jenkins should have been brought on for McGuffie (who incidentally had a good first half, but reverted to type in the 2nd) to drive the team on - his runs from deep would have been extremely effective yesterday, particularly at that stage of the game. Also, we should have pushed Jim and Kevin right on to the touch-lines up alongside the forwards, as they weren't able to deal with anything in the wide areas.

Another 2 points lost by Irons and his changes, the sooner he buggers off the better,
hopefully taking Smith with him. He always was been an accident waiting to happen, and unfortunately it's happening more and more often. It's imperative that we bring in a left-back.


Only if we get something better Eanie! How hard would that be if Rae really wanted experience? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-25 15:27:06
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 25 2009, 03:00 PM) [snapback]569643[/snapback]
Jim is starting to look like the last thing he wants is to be here, he's growing stale. Ive always been of the opinion that he's already stayed at least a season too long with us, and its proving to be the case right now.

Jim has been my favourite Morton player sine as long as i can remember almost and i hope he goes onto have a great career, but with every season he stays at us he's ruining his chances of developing into the player his potential deserved.

Something I've said repeatedly sweetheart. Jimbo clearly has the potential to do better. He needs a club where he'd be a smaller fish in a bigger pond with an astute manager who wasn't 'forced' to play him every week.
mortonjag 2009-01-25 15:42:05
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jan 25 2009, 03:25 PM) [snapback]569658[/snapback]
Quite simply you have branded yourself infantile as well. I laid the blame for the result on Chris Smith's own goal, which is not an unreasonable suggestion given it was a catastrophic error that he made. However, I also pointed out McAlister's misses, Wake's misses and the several other good chances that we had.

You have laid the blame at the door of DI, you believed that his tactics were to blame, not Smith's dreadful own goal. By completely ignoring that fact, you have continued to bleat on about the manager being to blame when really there were a number of factors that played a role in our disappointing result. You seem to have a personal vendetta against Irons despite the fact that you have probably never met him (feel free to correct me on that one) and it is quite amusing that you have started a thread against the manager when really a series of individual errors yesterday cost us the game. Given that we lost as a team yesterday, I hope that we can win as a team next week.


You said this:


Only one man to blame? Quite correct, and he wore number 3.


followed by this:


...and it is quite amusing that you have started a thread against the manager when really a series of individual errors yesterday cost us the game.

Well make up your bloody mind. If you want to believe that a man of my intelligence, experience, and reputation wants to wage a vendetta against the faltering manager of a football club, dream on. I've previously been accused of vendettas against Shoogly, JM, and Broke Millstone. If you REALLY believe that Smiffy was entirely to blame you can RAM IT! dry.gif




QUOTE(rex manning @ Jan 25 2009, 03:26 PM) [snapback]569660[/snapback]
Jag, what was Irons shouting? anything? i'm genuinely interested if this drop back 20 yards when we lose a goal is a "tactic" or just something the players do automatically and Irons cant get them to stop it.


The away dugout's nearer us-we hear them better, but Irons NEVER stops shouting at the players individually. In the first half he was at Smith regularly with 'Junior this' and 'Junior that'.

Jonaton made a good point in his blog about him berating Shimmin that day when Irons opted for the fateful back three. Dom eventually just blanked him! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-25 15:47:33
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 25 2009, 11:21 AM) [snapback]569566[/snapback]
arrived for his piss? huh.gif ach well as you say you can say hello next week. happy.gif



Well there's only one place where the stand fag draggers congregate at half time!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-25 16:47:49
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 24 2009, 09:33 PM) [snapback]569445[/snapback]
Not sure if Paartalu was on the bench but if he was then i felt he should have been brought on with 20 mins to go just to sit in the hole between midfield and defence, as time and again they were finding space in there, we'd have probably won if we'd put him on just to get rid of the space in there.

I do feel Irons took too long with the subs but he can't be blamed for the result. We missed so many chances when trying to kill of a game as usual and the defending was back to its old self the last 20 minutes. Chris Smith just isnt good enough at this level, im sure he's a nice guy but he's a liability and an accident waiting to happen.

Morton being 2-0 up is my least favourite scoreline, as you know that we wont kill the game off, theyll score and then panic stations set in and its inevitable that they'll get another goal.

I also don't know what Irons problem with Ian Russell is but he better sort it soon, as him never getting used at all is becoming a real detrement to the team.

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mortonjag 2009-01-25 16:52:28
QUOTE(MaxTon1874 @ Jan 24 2009, 08:27 PM) [snapback]569419[/snapback]
I know it wasnt good enough, we should have been 5 up at half time. But my point is that its over now and nothing can be done to change them fu**ers getting a draw. But shouting for people to be dropped and people stating Irons is to blame is just mental.

Look forward to next week thats all im saying. We are still 6th wink.gif

I know-they are clearly only the deranged who think a manager has anything to do with results. I personally blame Mark Farrell-if the grass had been 2mm higher we'd have scored another six! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-25 16:58:55
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Jan 25 2009, 04:42 PM) [snapback]569711[/snapback]
We should be doing position related training every day. Jimbo and Kev crossing, Wake and Weatherson putting them away, Masterton with his free kicks and corners etc.

The only problem is that you can't teach composure,[b] players have to learn that through time[/b].

Wee Joe Harper was composed at the age of fifteen. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-25 17:04:03 I was desperate to get a chance to slag off the big Pishley Pig!

Thought he was pretty firm and fair TBH.

Night and day compared to the usual fussy wee fannies we get every other week!
mortonjag 2009-01-25 17:19:59
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 25 2009, 02:15 PM) [snapback]569619[/snapback]
I actually thought both our forwards had really good games yesterday. Indeed, I would say it's the best all-round performance that Weatherson has given for a long, long time, mainly due to the fact that he done it for 90 minutes instead of wee fits and bursts along the way.

I also don't think poor finishing is necessarily a problem with the strikers - it seems to me that it's a problem with the coaching, as none of our players are remotely consistent (or capable) finishers. Even Weatherson, normally a tremendous finisher seems to have lost the way in that department.

Both goals were excellent finishes IMO.

mortonjag 2009-01-25 17:24:44
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ Jan 24 2009, 05:57 PM) [snapback]569163[/snapback]
Would rather have the dwarf from Big Brother

That's just silly-he could never get up for those high balls.
mortonjag 2009-01-25 17:29:22 If you're feeling fruity I'll 'phone Paul Hegarty and ask him to give you One!
mortonjag 2009-01-25 17:35:54 Not my Jag forza-I have a dinky little Saab, and I've explained elsewhere that I was looking out for you!

The funny thing is though that I WAS at the mobile shop at 2.45. I bought wee Cheeky (fing's pal), a new scarf and have the receipt to prove it. I could swear I didn't see anybody in Pilot's uniform! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-25 17:44:48 ]


QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 24 2009, 09:36 PM) [snapback]569448[/snapback]
That wasn't Armand One surely, i thought he looked quite good and had a good touch and was excellent at holding the ball up. I don't think he'd score many goals but he did okay and if Livi signed them it could be a decent partnership with him and Griffiths.

That was Mr One all right. I heard a wee whisper that the reason for his improved mobility was a recent operation.
mortonjag 2009-01-25 17:49:56 In a rare deviation I have refrained from reading a single post.

First offending 'knifies' should be birched.

Instant solution! ph34r.gif

mortonjag 2009-01-25 18:01:17
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 25 2009, 05:47 PM) [snapback]569770[/snapback]
He used to be a women ?? unsure.gif

Quite the opposite!
mortonjag 2009-01-25 18:02:49
QUOTE(suda @ Jan 25 2009, 10:26 AM) [snapback]569551[/snapback]
correct, credit where it's due. However don't expect many to agree with a positive statement when there's so much more to bitch about.

I thought Finlayson was extremely effective yesterday.

He's not a winger though.
mortonjag 2009-01-25 18:06:33
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jan 25 2009, 06:02 PM) [snapback]569789[/snapback]
i actually would like to see Harding back in the team. I'd have him playing at right back, switching Alex back to the left. He is a much better football player than Smith. he has a bit of composure on the ball and when his inevitable brain freezes occur its less likely to cost us if he's out on the wing. He was, for me at least, a better defender than Stewart before this season started. I think he could easily become a regular fixture in the side again.

*ducks for cover*

Harding is a good central defender. He and Stu just couldn't gel. I was a wee bit perturbed yesterday to notice that when Livi turned on the heat, Dom and Stu didn't look half the partnership they've shown they can be. To me that demonstrates the need for an effective midfield in front of them-something Hardy and Stu NEVER had!
mortonjag 2009-01-25 18:11:08
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Jan 25 2009, 06:05 PM) [snapback]569793[/snapback]
Would he be in you starting eleven for next week, and if so in what position would you play him?

He's done quite well as a 'right winger' against Saints in the past. I'd play him again as yesterday, and immediately replace him with LEAFY if he's back to his usual keech.
mortonjag 2009-01-25 18:14:34
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 25 2009, 06:08 PM) [snapback]569796[/snapback]
He's worth a goal against you a game. I'd much rather punt him asap and in doing so probably free up a large chunk of the wage budget to bring in a left-mid and a striker!

We DON'T need a striker. Hardy scored a good striker's goal against Hibs-there-we could play him as a striker! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-25 18:24:07
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 25 2009, 06:19 PM) [snapback]569803[/snapback]
Auld fud. laugh.gif

We do need a striker, or rather, a better one. Wake and Russell score some and miss loads more. Grady barely ever scores. Yesterday the service to the strikers was more than adequate and not enough chances were taken.

Someone who can be relied on to take more chances and kill off games like yesterday's.

I'll 'auld fud' you-you jumped up brat. Only one person related to Greenock Morton deserves that term!

Weatherson would be knocking them in for fun if he didn't also have to play about three other roles to suit our managers bizarre perception of reality! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-25 18:26:20
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 25 2009, 06:04 PM) [snapback]569791[/snapback]
Eh? I don't see a problem with our set-pieces.

Except when super manager sits Masterton on the bench for 90 minutes at McDiarmid Park! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-25 18:27:52
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 25 2009, 06:25 PM) [snapback]569807[/snapback]
I don't agree that Smith's solely to blame, but surely then your logic's infantile too, seen as you're blaming it all on Irons?

Am I? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-25 18:34:11 Is there something wrong with octogenarian sex?
mortonjag 2009-01-25 18:42:38
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 25 2009, 06:29 PM) [snapback]569814[/snapback]
List these roles. 'About' 3? laugh.gif

I've no intention of embarrassing the best striker in the first division by revealing his behind the scenes responsibilities, though Mr. Irons Guccis have recently taken on an unprecedented sheen, the staff toilet smells of roses, and there may be more behind this smile than meets the eye!


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mortonjag 2009-01-25 18:57:33
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 25 2009, 06:44 PM) [snapback]569831[/snapback]
Right, whatever.

Now, what's this got to do with his scoring record?

When and where AB scores is surely none of your business.
mortonjag 2009-01-25 19:00:11
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 25 2009, 06:41 PM) [snapback]569826[/snapback]
Yes.

Very well! mad.gif

...and the 'infantile logic' bit? laugh.gif

Irons blew it yesterday-FACT!
mortonjag 2009-01-25 19:01:16
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 25 2009, 07:00 PM) [snapback]569837[/snapback]
That'll be all then. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Unless you're free later this evening! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-25 19:05:08 I've always had a soft spot for the man who invented the haggis.
mortonjag 2009-01-25 19:07:15
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 25 2009, 07:04 PM) [snapback]569844[/snapback]
pilot's uniform? huh.gif i didn't think you were actually true until willowman told me the other that he had spoke to you on the phone!

I wasn' t expecting YOU in a pilot's uniform-it was Captain Flight! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-25 19:13:04
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 25 2009, 07:09 PM) [snapback]569849[/snapback]
Ok, I respect you opinion, we can agree to disagree.

Ya namby-pamby, limp-wristed, do-gooding liberal. tongue.gif

POUFFE laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-25 19:24:37
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 25 2009, 07:15 PM) [snapback]569854[/snapback]
Have we got an arse-bandit alert??????

'Jobby stabber' please! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-25 19:29:35 When I was younger, Chelsea was a Football Club and a bloody bun.

I've heard he now fancies Notting Hill.
mortonjag 2009-01-25 19:33:29
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 25 2009, 07:31 PM) [snapback]569858[/snapback]
Like the various police chiefs who are allegedly against this proposal?

Hey SPARROT, is this you solving the knife crime issue again? As I said, I ain't read the thread.

Why shouldn't we just tan their arses. You know it would work.
mortonjag 2009-01-25 19:37:12 Posted missing for over a month!

Where are you? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-25 19:47:06 Somebody has suggested that to celebrate Burns' anniversary, the Royal Bank of Scotland should print a new issue of Ten Pound Notes with a picture of the First Minister on one side and a haggis on the other-not that anybody would be able to tell the difference.
mortonjag 2009-01-25 19:51:01
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 25 2009, 07:35 PM) [snapback]569860[/snapback]
It'd be much easier to chuck them into a wild island to build their own community. Stop being soft on the criminals you do-gooder POUFFE.

If you really mean that, you're beginning to grow up. Should they be allowed to take their weapons with them, or should they be removed first?
mortonjag 2009-01-25 19:52:21
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 25 2009, 07:49 PM) [snapback]569870[/snapback]
That 'somebody' was your old friend Annabel.

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I didn't realise you were an Express man Peter!
mortonjag 2009-01-25 20:03:24
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 25 2009, 07:55 PM) [snapback]569875[/snapback]
I'm not. My father stopped buying The Express in 1975 (I think) when it became a tabloid.

I see-it's just that we had visitors this afternoon, and they left a Scottish Sunday Express on the POUFFE.

My better half drew my attention to Aunt Annabel's column!

Are you fond of Aunt Annabel, Peter? blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-25 20:04:58
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 25 2009, 07:51 PM) [snapback]569872[/snapback]
VikinTON what you suggest should be done to combat knife crime? Playstations? Adventure holidays?

He'll be consulting his notes! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-25 20:07:34


QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 25 2009, 08:04 PM) [snapback]569878[/snapback]
She doesn't really bother me either way Douglas.


I see. What about our first minister-does he bother you? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-25 20:09:28
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 25 2009, 08:07 PM) [snapback]569884[/snapback]
Come to think of it, we've not heard much from MrsT lately either.

You don't think.........? unsure.gif

That she's now HGV +ve? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-25 20:11:27
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jan 25 2009, 07:39 PM) [snapback]569863[/snapback]
Anyone seen this?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showb...mp;ATTR=Bizarre

His missus is a cracker. I would wub.gif

That's not so much a low cut dress as a high waistband! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-25 20:12:44
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 25 2009, 08:11 PM) [snapback]569886[/snapback]
Could be, he does like a right good truck. unsure.gif

Maybe he's just exhausted!
mortonjag 2009-01-25 20:15:36
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 25 2009, 08:12 PM) [snapback]569889[/snapback]
Burns fest tonight on the TV, BBC1 Scotland to be exact.

21.00 No Holds Bard
Comedy following the lives of 5 people as they prepare to vie for the 2009 Cup O'Kindness.

22.00 Auld Lang Syne: Robert Burns at Celtic Connections 2009
Concert featuring some of Scotland's finest performers singing Burns' best-loved songs.


23.00 Address to the haggis.
Aunt Annabel at First Minister's Question Time.
mortonjag 2009-01-25 20:18:20
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 25 2009, 08:16 PM) [snapback]569893[/snapback]
Don't be DAFt.

I wasn't being DAFt MAN!

Anyway, before this thread gets out of hand like Puggs' knob after a chug-is 44TT OK? Does anybody know?
mortonjag 2009-01-25 20:21:12
QUOTE(Reggio_Emilia_Ton_Army @ Jan 25 2009, 08:17 PM) [snapback]569895[/snapback]
I like this stuff, I love it, I wish it had the TON win!
Cappielow full crowded, better if more hoops supporters were in.

Careful my friend-Cellic think THEY are the hoops! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-25 20:23:18
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 25 2009, 08:20 PM) [snapback]569898[/snapback]
Was it the school you both went to that helped develope your undoubted wit rolleyes.gif

What a double act Earnie and Annabel laugh.gif

We both attended Kilmacolm Primary School. Mortonjag was Dux. Annabel was in my wee brother's class and tried hard.
mortonjag 2009-01-25 20:32:22
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 25 2009, 08:23 PM) [snapback]569902[/snapback]
Well of course it gets out of hand. I need to clean my hand and wipe the tears from my face! Can't do that while still grabbing my bass-drone now can I?

Does your come out dirty? unsure.gif

QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 25 2009, 08:23 PM) [snapback]569903[/snapback]
He's been in hospital for a SCAN, I Assume.


Or stalking Mrs T in a vain attempt to a tractor.
mortonjag 2009-01-25 20:45:43
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jan 25 2009, 08:42 PM) [snapback]569917[/snapback]
if the criteria to legitimately comment on kinfe crime is reserved to those directly affected by kinfe crime, surely the majority of people in the country can have no comment.

If the criteria ARE reserved for those potentially affected, they are a matter of universal concern!
mortonjag 2009-01-25 20:48:02
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 25 2009, 08:46 PM) [snapback]569923[/snapback]
It's just unionist misandry laugh.gif

Well here's some more Spurtle-away and stand in front of the fire till yer Rabbie burns.
mortonjag 2009-01-25 20:49:41
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Jan 25 2009, 08:45 PM) [snapback]569920[/snapback]
Poly-orchidism??

Penile hypertrophy! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-25 20:54:18 'after a short illness', thankfully.
mortonjag 2009-01-25 20:57:19
QUOTE(Loveless @ Jan 25 2009, 08:51 PM) [snapback]569927[/snapback]
Bought four shirts from TM Lewin for £100.

For anyone who doesn't know, Lewin is on Buchannan Street in Glasgow, and I would highly recommend it. Not cheap, but not particularly expensive either, and always good quality.

I get the catalouge through every month, always new and unique styles you just don't get anywhere else.

Theyre doing a deal two suits for £500 at the moment, which is very tempting.

High price poker?
mortonjag 2009-01-25 21:59:18
QUOTE(rawheed rex @ Jan 25 2009, 09:15 PM) [snapback]569940[/snapback]
RUSSEL IS A BETTER 2ND DIV STRIKER THAN MCGOWAN reel em in

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Gowsa is an attacking midfielder!
mortonjag 2009-01-25 22:06:39
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jan 25 2009, 09:16 PM) [snapback]569941[/snapback]
I do not completely blame Smith for the result, far from it, but I feel that when the thread is started saying that Irons should take the blame for the result, my simple response is the only thing that will suffice as a counter. The thread starter constantly pins the defeats (never the victories) on the management, without acknowledging the wider picture.

If you had to pick ONE person to shoulder the blame for the equalizer yesterday, who would it be? Smith or Irons? I personally think that the individual error of Smith cost us the 3 points yesterday and although I stand in the cowshed and can't hear every word uttered from our dugout, I'm pretty sure Irons did not tell Smith to do what he did. Of course Irons could have brought on Russell for Wake with 15 minutes to go and maybe introduced Jenkins a little sooner, but ultimately if your left back is going to do that in the last couple of minutes then what is the point. However, Smith had plenty of helpers when it came to snatching a draw from the jaws of victory with several team-mates failing to score at the other end; I just can't understand how Irons gets grief on here when the players played well but their finishing was what let us down: those are individual errors, perpetrated by individual players. If you go down to Quarriers tomorrow and asked the players: "Who was responsible for us failing to see out the match?" I would be appalled if any of them looked anywhere else but at each other.

We played some great football yesterday and I see no reason why we cannot give St Johnstone a good game next week and get the three points.


On the contrary my dear, it's very easy to nitpick about individual players and IGNORE the wider picture-that of an inept manager who yesterday let the fans, the players, and himself down yet again!

Why is it that you and your ilk in your inveterate attacks on the thread starter always resort to blatant lies and personal attacks? On the rare occasions when I have seen good results at the hands of any of our rookie managers I have paid due deference. That is a fact.
mortonjag 2009-01-25 22:10:40
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jan 25 2009, 09:22 PM) [snapback]569946[/snapback]
Dom and Greacen are greater than the sum of their parts, but Harding can still pass a ball better than both of them; the other two are better defenders in my opinion though.

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mortonjag 2009-01-25 22:13:23
QUOTE(rawheed rex @ Jan 25 2009, 09:40 PM) [snapback]569952[/snapback]
i like the wan a boot the wee moose. its just the best wub.gif

This?
mortonjag 2009-01-25 22:25:53
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Jan 25 2009, 09:05 PM) [snapback]569936[/snapback]
Indeed not.
Tell you a wee story to put it into perspective.
The night PAN AM 103 came down on Lockerbie we were out in the panda's in the Port. Every available body was called back to Darlymple St. Minibuses were waiting and the guy's got bundled into them and set off for Lockerbie. There was 3 of us covering the whole of Inverclyde that night.
At the end of that shift we were told to be back early in the morning as we were needed down the road.

I got paired off with a Doctor and we had an area to walk around and collect evidence. So we're picking up wee bit's of people's bodies, ear's, bits of Knee cap and other various items. This continued for 10 day's. Brain numbing stuff when you can clearly see that some of these victims were children or youth's. Imagine how their kin folk felt. No closure.

Anyway, the moral of the story is after Lockerbie we all carried on and got back to our relevant job's and got on with life. Our gaffer, who happened to be on the fast trak and was directing the shifts and shuffling paperwork ended up going off long term sick, he eventually topped himself because he coodnae cope with the stress and trauma of it all. He did bugger all, didnae even venture ootside his portacabin for a fag never mind go and pick up body part.

So, folk don't need you to pontificate to them the difference between real life experience and reading broadsheet's or other people's so called theory. Just like our soldiers in Afghanistan, there will be some uni whizz kid on fast trak back at HQ giving out orders and he'll never have had a pair of desert boots on his life.

If brains were gunpowder half of them widnae have enough to blow their noses.


I don't often add personal experiences, but I was in Glasgow Royal Casualty in 1972-on duty as a young and inexperienced house officer when a 'room 9'-a dire emergency was rushed in. That guy died of a solitary stab wound to the chest. Meanwhile a colleague and I were cobbling up another man who had about twenty or more knife wounds, none of which had proved too serious-that of course was just utter luck on his part.

It transpired that our patient had been set upon by the, by then dead, 'emergency'. In desperation he'd finally drawn his own knife and lunged out. He 'went down' for manslaughter.

When it comes to knives, there should be no room for 'judging each case on its merits'. Carry a weapon and take the consequences. For me birching is still an option for those eejits.
mortonjag 2009-01-25 22:30:47
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jan 25 2009, 10:23 PM) [snapback]569975[/snapback]
In that, whenever they play without each other e.g. with Harding or McManus, they are not as good.

Ah! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-25 22:34:52
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Jan 25 2009, 10:09 PM) [snapback]569960[/snapback]
I'm not sure that most people are ignoring the fact that DI should have done something sooner about what was going on. It was fairly clear to most people, but it would seem not to Irons.

What I take issue with is your thinking that Smith is utterly blameless, when he made at least four mistakes and the final one was costly. You choose to ignore Brian Wake, who could have easily won us the game yesterday and didn't. You choose to ignore Jim McAlister, who was absolutely dire, and had a golden chance in the second half.

There are players on that park who should be shouldering some of the blame. Will you acknowledge that ?

unsure.gif Are you addressing that to me? If so you're quite inaccurate.

QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jan 25 2009, 10:15 PM) [snapback]569968[/snapback]
I'll have to take your word on that because I can't be bothered trawling through all the threads looking for the last time you acknowledged the club in a positive light.

And you are right, it is easy to nitpick about individual players when they pass up opportunity after opportunity (with individual errors) and then another individual error from a player on the park results in the equalizer being scored by the opposition.

I do not want to be too harsh on the players yesterday because every single one of them played well, despite our profligacy in front of the Sinclair street goal and accuracy in front of the Wee Dublin End goal. But I just cannot see how you could blame Irons for yesterday's result when the players' individual errors cost the three points. If you go down to the training tomorrow and asked the team collectively, they would insist to a man that the players were responsible for the result yesterday.


But CAN be bothered accusing me of something without even knowing whether or not you're correct.

That's a pretty poor show! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-25 22:36:16
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Jan 25 2009, 10:02 PM) [snapback]569957[/snapback]
Does he keep it on his mantlepiece,on a wooden plinth with a wee brass plaque?

Don't be daft-he uses it to poke the fire! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-25 22:46:47
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Jan 25 2009, 10:40 PM) [snapback]569989[/snapback]
How was it inaccurate ? I was asking a question.

May I refer you to the thread on Jim McAlister? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-25 22:48:29
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jan 25 2009, 10:32 PM) [snapback]569984[/snapback]
First officer mj...first officer.

Pilots training begins when i return from egypt to be precise.

Jolly good Biggles. Give my regards to the Sphinx! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-25 22:52:55
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 25 2009, 10:42 PM) [snapback]569991[/snapback]
I'll let you into a wee secret, half the crooks in Inverclyde now stay in Inverkip and Wemyss Bay and like you say you don't need to be wearing a pair of tackies and a base ball cap to be carrying a knife.

Would I not be right in saying the front page of the tele' last week was all about a knife assault in Wemyss Bay?

If you're suggesting that the same number of chibs are toted about well heeled 'middle class' areas as in run down poverty stricken schemes, I have to disagree.
mortonjag 2009-01-26 07:34:26
QUOTE(rawheed rex @ Jan 25 2009, 10:58 PM) [snapback]570000[/snapback]
mcgowan is and always will be--- a never mind tongue.gif tongue.gif (thats one) the greater spoted jag baged with the cheepest of chum smartass.gif is the statement accurate laugh.gif

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laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-26 07:56:08
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Jan 25 2009, 11:33 PM) [snapback]570014[/snapback]
And then I'll refer you to the thread that YOU started saying that DI takes sole blame.


I'll save you the bother!

Here's what I said IN THE ORIGINAL POST

He failed to substitute an off form Jimbo with Iain Russell, and Jenkins should have been on half way through the second half.

...and I was far more scathing about Jimbo in the 'Teacher's Pet' thread.

But-just like Tonausaurus, and many others who resent Jag being allowed to have any opinion, you quite happily LIED when you claimed


You choose to ignore Jim McAlister, who was absolutely dire, and had a golden chance in the second half.


Anybody with a grain of intelligence who reads my post will clearly see that that I have NOT absolved the players from some responsibility. I am laying the ultimate blame for a shocking display of tactical turnipry fairly and squarely at Mr Irons more than ample feet.

I have, however, paid token lip service to massage board illiteracy and inserted the word 'ultimately' into the original post.

Assuring you of my best attention at all times,

I am

Yours sincerely


James Duffy.
mortonjag 2009-01-26 08:20:36 Our thoughts are with the family! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-26 08:27:00
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jan 25 2009, 11:33 PM) [snapback]570013[/snapback]
ill let you know
theres a good chance ill be working



QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jan 26 2009, 01:17 AM) [snapback]570030[/snapback]
The Jag was Tutankamuns very own personal physician, thats why he snuffed it at 18 the poor kid just lost the will to live.



Indeed the Jag is well know at King Tut's where he has often attempted healing by the laying on of hands.
mortonjag 2009-01-26 08:29:52 I wegwet that Mr Woss may have been scuwilously miswepwesented. blink.gif

It's an uttew disgwace.
mortonjag 2009-01-26 08:40:21
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Jan 26 2009, 08:36 AM) [snapback]570048[/snapback]
I’m surprised no one thinks Cuthbert could have helped Smith out before the own goal. When the ball came into the box and with Smith sucked into the middle you can understand Smith’s urgency in wanting to clear – it was probably down to his inexperience why he didn’t just hoof a clearance into the stand. But given the speed of play and the not 100% sure what to do – I would expect Cuthbert to be helping Smith out with a shout. It’s not hard. Leaving the cross to run across the box would have been the best option at the time.

It’s easy to get frustrated after a game like Saturday’s and start criticising easy targets like Smith for his recent mistakes but let’s get behind the player rather than on his back – he’s learning his trade and by and large plays a competent role in a settled defence.

If big Dom had scored that o.g. nobody would have batted an eyelid-well almost nobody.

Dom Dom et al would be blaming the pony tailed one for not leaving it to Smith and thus spoiling their subsequent viperous snipings. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-26 08:42:10
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jan 26 2009, 08:38 AM) [snapback]570049[/snapback]
?
I don't get it unsure.gif

That's what I suspected-you definitely need One then! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-26 08:45:48
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jan 26 2009, 08:34 AM) [snapback]570047[/snapback]
I'm still here. rolleyes.gif He has been awful quiet... unsure.gif

Serious question-does anybody know 44TT and is he OK?
mortonjag 2009-01-26 08:47:38
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jan 26 2009, 08:30 AM) [snapback]570045[/snapback]
rubbing your manky paws up and down young indie chicks arses aint called healing, did the restraining order not state feeling?

My clinical examinations have always been performed with consummate professional decorum.
mortonjag 2009-01-26 08:59:31
QUOTE(Thrax @ Jan 26 2009, 08:54 AM) [snapback]570055[/snapback]
if anybody is giving her One it'll be me! You leave her al one! ph34r.gif mad.gif

Is his as big as Armand's? blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-26 09:05:33
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 24 2009, 09:33 PM) [snapback]569445[/snapback]
Not sure if Paartalu was on the bench but if he was then i felt he should have been brought on with 20 mins to go just to sit in the hole between midfield and defence, as time and again they were finding space in there, we'd have probably won if we'd put him on just to get rid of the space in there.

I do feel Irons took too long with the subs but he can't be blamed for the result. We missed so many chances when trying to kill of a game as usual and the defending was back to its old self the last 20 minutes. Chris Smith just isnt good enough at this level, im sure he's a nice guy but he's a liability and an accident waiting to happen.

Morton being 2-0 up is my least favourite scoreline, as you know that we wont kill the game off, theyll score and then panic stations set in and its inevitable that they'll get another goal.

I also don't know what Irons problem with Ian Russell is but he better sort it soon, as him never getting used at all is becoming a real detrement to the team.



So long in fact that they don't even get a wee mensh on the official site! laugh.gif




Morton 2 Livingston 2 [return]
(H.T. 2-0) Team News

MORTON: Cuthbert, Walker, Smith (o.g. 87 mins), Shimmin, Greacen, Masterton, Finlayson, McGuffie (goal 16 mins), Weatherson, Wake (goal 13 mins), McAlister Subs: McManus, Jenkins, Russell, Paartalu, Stewart

LIVINGSTON: MacKenzie, MacKay, Talbot (subbed Miller 56 mins), McPake, Davidson, McDonald (subbed Jacobs 88 mins), McParland, Griffin, Griffiths (goal 81 mins), Winters, Trialist Subs: Miller, Hamill, Halliday, Jacobs, Martini

Referee: I Brines

Posted on 24 January, 2009

mortonjag 2009-01-26 09:08:44
QUOTE(Thrax @ Jan 26 2009, 09:05 AM) [snapback]570058[/snapback]
?
I don't get it unsure.gif

Armand!
mortonjag 2009-01-26 09:21:12
QUOTE(Thrax @ Jan 26 2009, 09:18 AM) [snapback]570062[/snapback]
tongue.gif ive heard of the player...i just didnt quite get the joke

I just thought that if Mrs T was feeling fruity she might enjoy being given One! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-26 09:46:52
QUOTE(Thrax @ Jan 26 2009, 09:27 AM) [snapback]570067[/snapback]
lets be fair Mj....she's always feelin fruity rolleyes.gif

Aye- but how big is Fruity's? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-26 17:20:58
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 26 2009, 11:26 AM) [snapback]570100[/snapback]
If you really let this forum dictate your life and your love for Morton then i for one hope you never stumble onto ' meet gay men in your area ' forum by mistake, i don't think the arses in western scotland could take it.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jan 26 2009, 11:44 AM) [snapback]570102[/snapback]
very good.. seriously... what I meant was that I was starting to get caught up in all the criticism that comes from this board to the team/manager etc.. and was being niavely swayed by it.. now though I dont look to judge a player before a game, or harbour any ill feeling towards the management team or directors.. I now do as I have done for 30 odd years.. enjoy watching morton.. game by game.. of course the team would have been unhappy, but do you think they would be standing pointing the finger at individuals or the manager.. na ...i think they played well and were unlucky.. I was dissapointed that we didnt win, but equally happy with the performance over the majority of the game, and for that majority of the game it showed what we are capable of doing to teams


Masochism alarm bells ringing loud and clear!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-26 17:24:47
QUOTE(Savo @ Jan 26 2009, 02:12 PM) [snapback]570147[/snapback]
Yes, his first season here.

He was excellent in the Partick game in October 07, agreed, but I don't think he was even our top boy that day.

As for Pars and Thistle games at the end of last season, he undoubtedly played really well in both (without being outstanding, which he was on Saturday). We were also up against two sides who had completely chucked it by that point.

So I'd still be inclined to say Saturday was better than those displays. Long may his good run of form continue though, that's the most important thing smile.gif

I have a vague recollection of that fateful day at Stranraer, and of Finlayson playing a 'gung ho' roving role-often drifting through the centre and having a pop. Could it be that he is finally recovering from a VERY serious dose of JM induced constipation?
mortonjag 2009-01-26 17:27:19
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 25 2009, 01:59 PM) [snapback]569611[/snapback]
At the avoidance of making stupid and costly errors. Also distribution of the ball.

Your second (non) sentence makes me realise that you are entirely at the 'wind up'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-26 17:29:52
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 26 2009, 12:58 PM) [snapback]570128[/snapback]
I don't get that at all, for me Harding punts too many aimless long balls, most of them going straight out for a goal kick. Where do you get the idea he can pass a ball?

When Ryan Harding is on form he hits a long ball with more accuracy than anybody else in the squad.

That is NOT an opinion.
mortonjag 2009-01-26 17:42:47 Irons has an utterly appalling record of 'letting it all slip away'. If we're drawing away from home he DESPERATELY tries to keep that one point-we should have taken all three at McDiarmid for example, and look what happened.

If we're winning at home and the game gets into its last third he DESPERATELY tries to stop the opposition from scoring instead of going for a killer goal.

If the same stats. applied to a quiet mouse like JM-sure you might ask questions of the players, but the current manager controls our style of play with constant 'verbals' and relaying of commands when the ball's out of play.

The simple answer-our inexperienced manager.
mortonjag 2009-01-26 17:52:17 Respect to Mr Rae in his column in the programme for acknowledging that attendances have suffered for genuine reasons such as that and not just that the perfomances. It's good to know he is human. (quote WDE)


Shoogly's human all right! I LOVE his programme notes. Here's a wee gem from Saturday's.


'The gaffer had hoped that one or two players might have moved on in the window but so far only Kieran McAnespie, who has moved to Dumbarton, has left the building'.

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mortonjag 2009-01-26 18:13:39
QUOTE(Bobbyton @ Jan 26 2009, 05:56 PM) [snapback]570211[/snapback]
Goals in last 15 mins.

Stranraer - 85th min. Won 6-3 (cup)
St J - 82nd min. Drew 2-2
QotS - 77th min. Won 2-0 (cup)
County - 77th min. Lost 4-1 (cup)
Airdrie - 90th min. Won 2-0
Qots - 90th min. Drew 2-2

Out of 22 league games this season, we have scored 3 goals in the last 15 minutes.
That is quite simply a terrible statistic; and one which might confirm we are not as fit as we should be to see out matches and kill teams off.



I stand to be corrected, but I gather that the perceived wisdom at Scapa is that the training under DI is far more intensive than JM ever oversaw.

I don't think it's so much the fitness factor as an incredible reluctance to use substitutes, and the manager's mental block about trying to protect what he has rather than 'killing matches off'.
mortonjag 2009-01-26 18:23:03
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 26 2009, 12:32 PM) [snapback]570117[/snapback]
Only with his extreme smugness Douglas.

Are you attracted to him physically Peter? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-26 18:25:06
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 26 2009, 04:33 PM) [snapback]570184[/snapback]
How do they know what a squirrel tastes like? unsure.gif

They don't. They were informed that powdered hedgehog tastes almost identical, and that's what they use.
mortonjag 2009-01-26 18:27:39
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jan 26 2009, 06:23 PM) [snapback]570222[/snapback]
I deny that. Whose fruity? ph34r.gif

You seem to be raisin Thrax's... erm...expectations!
mortonjag 2009-01-26 18:30:36
QUOTE(aww_naw @ Jan 26 2009, 06:02 PM) [snapback]570213[/snapback]
Anyone else got an addiction to subway a f***in love the place it has the crown for godfather of aww food !!!

Meatball Marinara with MILLIONs a red onion canny beat it!!!

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mortonjag 2009-01-26 18:48:50
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 26 2009, 06:41 PM) [snapback]570231[/snapback]
Labour peers 'change laws for £120,000'

Labour peers are prepared to accept fees of up to £120,000 to help make amendments to legislation in the House of Lords on behalf of business clients, it has been alleged.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7850428.stm
Democracy eh ? mad.gif

Bawheid would NEVER compromise himself financially!

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mortonjag 2009-01-26 18:55:21
QUOTE(Malt @ Jan 26 2009, 06:50 PM) [snapback]570233[/snapback]
I remember when Gretna played us and were winning 2-0 and all over us I found it strange that Irons, their manager at time, would take their best player off - Yancorto. We pulled it back to 2-2 and won the replay.

Looking at the goals we are losing in the last 15min, it is not good reading at all.

Indeed-and I'll never forget him girning to the press after the first game that they 'Shouldn't be conceding goals to inferior opposition'-his expression.

I remember that replay when the Ton showed that they were anything but inferior. It was the first time I'd been close enough to DI (I ended up in the home stand) to watch his antics, and I came away thinking he was a bloody loonball! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-26 19:02:19 I'm fond of big Dominic Shimmin
They say he's a hit with the women-
That every girl falls
For his long probing balls
And dreams of an evening with him in. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-26 19:07:15
QUOTE(Zutons @ Jan 26 2009, 06:56 PM) [snapback]570236[/snapback]
What a pathetic topic.

If Wake & McAlister were to score in one of those boat load of chances, we wouldn't be here yet it's all Irons fault.

Pathetic

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That'll be official insider opinion again!

SO pathetic in fact that it's been by far the most actively subscribed topic since Irons blew it on Saturday.

I'll tell you what's pathetic. Employees of Douglas Rae coming on here as bona fide posters and attempting to stifle legitimate debate. ph34r.gif

mortonjag 2009-01-26 19:27:10
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jan 26 2009, 07:00 PM) [snapback]570240[/snapback]
Yes. And thanks for boosting it back to the top. Maybe I should have made it a real arithmetic test, would that have got your juices flowing?
How many times do I have to explain this?

I didn't make this stuff up, it is actually what I was charged in Zavvi. You can't make sense of why Zavvi charged me £17.17? Guess what, either can I. blink.gif

Are all you people really trying to tell me that you've never actually seen Quiz Call? Or any of those shows on ITV in the early hours where the questions seem easy but the anwers are impossible to work out? I said in my original post that this thread was the equivalent of Quiz Call.

Anyone with half a brain could have worked out after about two posts that the answer could not be obviously worked out. It's not my fault so many of you were determined to show otherwise. rolleyes.gif


That is quite misleading. Several posters came up with logically correct answers based on the information you supplied. They explained how they had used the information and their answers were entirely acceptable.

I was working on the basis of 'lowest marked price' for example. Since three items were all priced identically, there was NO 'lowest' marked price--and on and on and on!!!!!

You presented a mental teaser-and fair enough-there was no 'correct' answer because you had withheld vital information! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-26 19:30:37
QUOTE(Zutons @ Jan 26 2009, 07:00 PM) [snapback]570241[/snapback]
Did they name parts of hospitals after him?

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Aye-the STD units.
mortonjag 2009-01-26 19:45:05
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jan 26 2009, 07:28 PM) [snapback]570254[/snapback]
Get a grip MJ - the Stasi , don't have an outpost at Fort Matilda. The guy is offering his opinion (which we're all entitled to apparently)
While I feel that we could have won if Irons had bolstered the midfield - there's no guarantee.
If one of our players had put away one of the many chances we would have won. Guaranteed.

Perhaps not Cloth Ears, but have a look at those stats:

Four pages, over 1500 views and almost eighty replies without a soul objecting to a legitimate viewpoint, until the said 'guy' voices his entirely unbiased opinion! rolleyes.gif

I can't blame him for supporting a fellow Rae employee-it's the way things have always been at Cappielow. The siege mentality is alive and kicking! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-26 19:52:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 26 2009, 07:48 PM) [snapback]570262[/snapback]
Nonsence. If that's the case why weren't the police involved or an investigation conducted into the matter ?

Back to the Labour peers - I see the police maybe involved this allegation.

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I'll tell the polis on you!

Who pays the fuckin' polis Spurtle?
mortonjag 2009-01-26 20:20:16
QUOTE(Zutons @ Jan 26 2009, 08:07 PM) [snapback]570270[/snapback]
Totally agree. I'm not surprised that livi pulled two goals back. Something needs to be sorted out asap.

...and whose job is that?
mortonjag 2009-01-26 20:22:17
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 26 2009, 08:06 PM) [snapback]570268[/snapback]
No, corruption, plain and simple
Not quite the same. Soapy's dosh went into SNP funds, not in Eck's pocket. This practice is widespread throughout politics as you know and, unfortunately quite legal.


Every last penny? unsure.gif


QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 26 2009, 08:17 PM) [snapback]570275[/snapback]
Who pays the ferryman ?

Nobody if the bloody boat sinks Spurtle! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-26 20:25:28
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jan 26 2009, 08:13 PM) [snapback]570273[/snapback]
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I'm almost tempted to go to Zavvi tomorrow and actually shell out for all four books just so I can scan the receipt and prove this is actually what Zavvi are charging!!

The question: How much was SramTon charged by Zavvi.
The answer: £17.17. End of. smartass.gif

Anyway, surely this car-crash of a thread has gone on long enough. Mods please close. Please. crying.gif

That's the wrong tack. What you should have said is 'Mods, I DEMAND that this thread is left to run its course'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-26 20:28:53
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 26 2009, 08:19 PM) [snapback]570281[/snapback]
I think you can buy a brick at Cappielow as well. You would have to ask, but i'm sure you can get a name on it. That would be there for many years.

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That may well be the case, but I once tried to get in with my own brick. It even had somebody's name on it, but those bloody stewards confiscated it. blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-26 20:36:48
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jan 26 2009, 08:34 PM) [snapback]570296[/snapback]
Fekin hope not!

They've put some new equipment in after the flood, brand new amps and a mixing desk, still trying to fathom out how to work the stuff, hope I didn't say anything without switching off the mic properly, like "my Cappie, you look just dandy in the buff..." wub.gif

Almost-your actual words were-'Cappie, are ye up for it again the night-the missus is aff tae the bingo'?
mortonjag 2009-01-26 21:31:06
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 26 2009, 09:01 PM) [snapback]570303[/snapback]
Giving your age away Jag.

STI now.

Still the clap and pox though. blush.gif

They were simply VD Clinics in my day Mr Bam! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 26 2009, 09:05 PM) [snapback]570304[/snapback]
In no way, shape or form Douglas. Are you?

I'm embarrassed to admit that he looks more masculine than his health ministress looks the opposite.

If I HAD to choose-I'd definitely shag Bawheid!
mortonjag 2009-01-26 21:33:40
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 26 2009, 09:26 PM) [snapback]570313[/snapback]
Why stop at football games?

Why stop at trackies and baseball caps? smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-26 21:41:26
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Jan 26 2009, 09:29 PM) [snapback]570316[/snapback]
Sorted it for you, no thanks required

So it was YOU! Well-just to keep you right my wife's name is Josephine and not Jen!

QUOTE(e_f @ Jan 26 2009, 09:32 PM) [snapback]570319[/snapback]
Are you Father Jack? smile.gif

I wish-I'd love to arrive at Scapa as the drunken old sot-complete with clerical garb and Ton scarf. I'd sure give Shoogly a blessing he'd never forget! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-26 21:46:43
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 26 2009, 09:37 PM) [snapback]570321[/snapback]
When you said "Soapy Sotar didn't really bung him to stop stagecoach being regulated" implying Souter gave a direct "bung" to Salmond. Which is of course complete nonsense.

Aye-the poor chap was bending over to adjust his shoelaces and Mr Soutar slipped him a half pounder.

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 26 2009, 09:41 PM) [snapback]570323[/snapback]
I don't know, maybe you should ask to see the accounts. Nae use giving dosh to Eck though, he'd probably just lose it at the bookies. laugh.gif

I'd love to know how much he's lost on his shares in the RBS! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-26 21:59:04
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 26 2009, 09:52 PM) [snapback]570331[/snapback]
Ahem, language MJ, there are children reading this.

OOps-I'll edit mine if you edit yours! In fact I've done it-just for the children. blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-26 22:14:23
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 26 2009, 10:10 PM) [snapback]570338[/snapback]
Yes it is. tongue.gif

Who asked you? blink.gif

Who in the entire squad can produce more beautiful long balls than Hardy? huh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-26 22:16:27
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jan 26 2009, 10:09 PM) [snapback]570337[/snapback]
Fair play to Andy Murray.

Beaten by a decent player in the form of his life.

However due to the ranking system - he should gain on the players above him and has a lot of potential to harvest a many many points between now and the French Open.

However Murray is a real class act
and I have no doubt his day will come.

He CAN play tennis.

It's a pity about everything else. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-26 22:28:26
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Jan 26 2009, 10:22 PM) [snapback]570342[/snapback]
[attachment=5101:nobartiste2.jpg]

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mortonjag 2009-01-26 22:31:32
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 26 2009, 10:29 PM) [snapback]570346[/snapback]
why does cappie shake the hands of disabled people but not those who are with them. almost as bad as dougie going to the disabled section and asking if those in wheelchairs would like a sweetie. laugh.gif

Quality Street?
mortonjag 2009-01-27 07:27:40 Hand washing is easy she claims, while launching her latest 'Look at me' publicity stunt of ZERO TOLERANCE, in which she effectively threatens NHS staff with the sack if they fail to wash their hands.

Don't get me wrong, superbugs are a pest, even if the total number of deaths from road accidents in Scotland last year exceeded those from MRSA and C.Diff. , and we're talking in terms of a couple of hundred for each.

A couple of hundred too many-yes-but superbug infection control is already being steadily implemented by those responsible USING THE SCANT RESOURCES AVAILABLE!!!

Yet again that hirsute harpy from Hades jumps on a bloody bandwagon for NO OTHER REASON than to spin it that 'she can' when in fact she most certainly CAN'T. dry.gif

I see that Inverclyde's own clown, Ross Finney, wants ZERO TOLERANCE for patients and visitors too. Aye right Ross-that'll be a complete dawdle to implement. Give the man a banana. laugh.gif

One final point Ms. Sturgeon!

MRSA and C Diff. infections spread more rapidly on unshaven skin.

GET IT F*CKIN' SORTED! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 07:33:18
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 26 2009, 10:40 PM) [snapback]570353[/snapback]
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I'd say Masterton could hit an accurate long ball. I also bet McGuffie would hit a decent long ball you just don't see him do it much.

Hardings long balls are hit and miss but usually miss.

Anyway, that's just my opinion. wink.gif

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Excellent-maybe by the time you're my age you'll be able confidently to say 'it's a fact' when you're pretty sure you're correct! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 07:35:08
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jan 26 2009, 10:43 PM) [snapback]570354[/snapback]
Yes. I've justified my reasons on here for wanting Rowan Alexander in the past, I reckon Morton missed a trick when appointing Davie Irons they should have went for Rowan too.

Rowan as No1 and Irons as No2, coupled with Shooglys untold wealth Morton could have been an SPL side for the next decade.

So he'll be here till 2019 at least? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 07:43:29
QUOTE(Ginantonic @ Jan 26 2009, 11:58 PM) [snapback]570367[/snapback]
MJ, could I respectfully request that you do not use this thread for humour.

Thanks.

I have no desire in any way to detract from your recent loss, and offer you my sincere condolences.

I also apologise for any offence.

In mitigation, however, can I say that this is a 'General Morton Chatter' forum, and that others had already pointed you in 'the right direction'.
mortonjag 2009-01-27 07:50:46
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 27 2009, 12:47 AM) [snapback]570383[/snapback]
Irons talking in the Tele about why he didn't change things in midfield, said he didn't because McGuffie was having one of his best games for us, Masterton was passing the ball well and is alwatsthreatening from set-pieces and Finlayson was man of the match. Make of those comments what you will, but this bit stuck out for me:

"Jim McAlister is always liable to do something so it was one of them - who do you take off?"

Clearly Irons never will sub him with that attitude, regardless of how poorly he's playing, and that's shocking IMO. He may well be capable of doing something special but he sure as well wasn't doing it on Saturday, and that sort of comment will allow McAlister to get complacent as no matter how badly he's playing, he's guaranteed to play all 90 minutes.

Well Mr Irons-if that's what you said, you've just confirmed without a shadow of a doubt that you ARE a total tactical turnip. You f*cked up good and proper, and as usual you won't accept the responsibility.

If you'd held your hands up and said 'I got it wrong but can you blame me when we were so far ahead', you might have got some sympathy.

Stating that you 'didn't know what to do' merely confirms your managerial naivety!
mortonjag 2009-01-27 08:49:51
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 27 2009, 08:47 AM) [snapback]570401[/snapback]
I believ she speaks very highly of you too, MJ...

She wouldn't know me if she met me in her porridge alphabet soup! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 08:54:22
QUOTE(Thrax @ Jan 27 2009, 08:27 AM) [snapback]570399[/snapback]
Linkage

"Kwara state police have detained the animal while they ponder their next move."

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WANTED!

For impersonation of a football manager? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 08:59:17
QUOTE(cmdc @ Jan 27 2009, 08:55 AM) [snapback]570406[/snapback]
I agree with this...more often than not that daft long ball that Harding floats forward is a defender's dream. Incredibly frustrating.

As frustrating as Jimbo's abysmal attempts at finishing? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 09:02:04
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 27 2009, 08:58 AM) [snapback]570409[/snapback]
To get back on the original topic, peers taking cash for changing laws is unequivocally corruption. The fact that the first four Labour peers they spoke to all agreed to it suggests the practice is failry widespread amongst Labour peers. How widespread it is in the entire spectrum of peers is as yet unclear.

The Souter business is at worst a very different matter. I understand the need to get funding, and if the SNP hadn't got enough funding we might still be under the jackboot of Labour in Holyrood, so I'm prepared to accept that it was necessary for the SNP to have these funds. Not really on the same scale as the vast sums that Labour get for direct and widespread corruption - peerage anyone? - or indeed the tories who do things on a much grander scale. I would prefer the SNP to deal with 100& clean money but perhaps in politics you sometimes need to get your hands a wee bit dirty to achieve your aims. As I say, the Tories and Labour and LibDems can't really complain at getting beaten at their own game.

I would hope there will be prosecutions for what appears to be direct corruption, but I suspect they will get the Wendy treatment and escape under the "not enough evidence to convict" route, and will then say they have been "cleared" which is not the same thing at all. I see Peter Hain also claims he was cleared when plainly he wasn't.


Correct. Gang rape is much worse than simple rape.
mortonjag 2009-01-27 09:35:37
QUOTE(Ginantonic @ Jan 27 2009, 09:31 AM) [snapback]570418[/snapback]
No worries MJ. I was feeling sensitive.

I accept your plea of mitigation.

My own Dad died a couple of years ago-also a lifelong Ton supporter. It's not an easy time. I wish you well.
mortonjag 2009-01-27 09:37:34
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 27 2009, 09:28 AM) [snapback]570417[/snapback]
A wh*re is a wh*re, the scale of the charges doesn't affect the whoring.

wh*ring? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 09:50:20
QUOTE(cmdc @ Jan 27 2009, 09:17 AM) [snapback]570414[/snapback]
Yep! That said, I personally would keep Jim in the team at the minute. I think his performances (Saturday excluded) have been better than many suggest on here.

I'd agree to keeping him in the starting squad. I'm praying that the Manager HAS accepted that attack counts as much as defence. In that respect I'd far rather see LEAFY given a chance against Saints. If it's not working he can easily be hooked and Jimbo fielded. I also believe that it would do McAlister no harm at all to be 'dropped'. In the bigger scheme of things, maybe that's exactly what the boy needs.
mortonjag 2009-01-27 09:59:30
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 27 2009, 09:50 AM) [snapback]570425[/snapback]
so glad i'm a morton fan. our support are generally cleverer, more well to do and cooler than the old firm. wouldn't be hard mind you. what about the big hero in the video running up to a lone polis and throwing a bottle at him? f***ing pond life.

ach well at least they carry butcher's aprons rather than saltires biggrin.gif

What about the ones wearing Union Jacks? Was that a subtle ruse to con the polis? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 10:23:53
QUOTE(AyrAndy @ Jan 27 2009, 10:08 AM) [snapback]570431[/snapback]
Whats the contact details as I need to get mine serviced, do they do MOT's as well??

schoneville saab

They do M.O.T.'s

When you 'phone you'll probably speak either to Graham Shoneville the owner's son, or Ken himself.

Be sure to say they were recommended by the owner of 10 EN!! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 10:32:47
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 27 2009, 10:27 AM) [snapback]570433[/snapback]
For his fantastic goal scoring record... tongue.gif

...and the fact that he's three years younger than Craig Brewster! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 10:48:57
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 27 2009, 09:50 AM) [snapback]570426[/snapback]
Maybe we'll see it on "CrimeWatch" tonight - but only if it's a Billy....... laugh.gif

Will tonight's Billies have balls?

QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 27 2009, 10:42 AM) [snapback]570440[/snapback]
These are peoples' deeply-held beliefs and because they are beliefs we shouldn't ridicule them.

Some people think that there's a bearded fellow in the sky who cares whether or not they self-pollute, others think that goats can shapeshift. What they have in common is that they get dreadfully offended if you question their beliefs. :rolleyesL

I wouldn't dream of mocking anybody's sincerely held beliefs!

A little tale
mortonjag 2009-01-27 11:00:01
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 27 2009, 10:50 AM) [snapback]570443[/snapback]
So,

Any new masterful Arithmetic quizes rolleyes.gif

Just posted to get SramTon his 7 pages biggrin.gif

If an apple costs 30p, an orange 45p and a grapefruit 60p, how much is a kilo of fruit c***tail? mellow.gif

erm---cocktail! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 11:04:41
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 27 2009, 11:00 AM) [snapback]570445[/snapback]
Not sure how it works in CIGNA but a good friend of the Mrs ( SNR Staff Nurse ) worked there, not call centre, think it was more the Adviser to the call handler. Paid off recently.

Maybe anyone on here could enlighten us as to how it works. I think alot of Nurses changed from working in the Hospitals to working in places like CIGNA, and am i right in saying that it's like private medical insurance ? Not in the know.

cigna
mortonjag 2009-01-27 11:05:57
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 27 2009, 11:02 AM) [snapback]570446[/snapback]
Ask Harry Murray's biggrin.gif

WRONG! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 11:10:55 BTT because I was amusing myself with a red candle last night and remembered sealing wax. My Granddad used to tie up parcels with string and melt the sealing wax (it came in red sticks) over the knots to keep them secure. Sellotape was just in its infancy.

Anybody else remember it?

sealing wax
mortonjag 2009-01-27 11:14:37
QUOTE(EBu @ Jan 27 2009, 11:07 AM) [snapback]570449[/snapback]
An easy one, but we're going for a seven pager!

It takes two gardeners 8 days to mow a lawn.

One is lazy and one is energetic.

The energetic one would only take 12 days to mow it on his own.

How many days would the lazy gardener take to mow the lawn on his own?

How fast does the grass grow? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 11:26:43
QUOTE(EBu @ Jan 27 2009, 11:23 AM) [snapback]570453[/snapback]
As fast as the Half Pounders fly off the shelves! wink.gif

Ah-the inevitable variable! Oh well I'd say 7.8762 weeks!

singalong now!

mortonjag 2009-01-27 11:30:13
QUOTE(EBu @ Jan 27 2009, 11:27 AM) [snapback]570455[/snapback]
Looks like its going to be Terry Butcher:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t..._ct/7842208.stm

Hopefully he'll quit the Scotland set up now.

He'll feel quite at home in Inverness where they speak English proper.
mortonjag 2009-01-27 11:37:44
QUOTE(EBu @ Jan 27 2009, 11:32 AM) [snapback]570457[/snapback]
Ok, lets just say that once all the grass is cut it won't need to be cut again for another few weeks.

All the information needed to give an answer is in the queston.

The monkey says 24 days but he's usually wrong! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 11:42:04
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 27 2009, 11:10 AM) [snapback]570450[/snapback]
yes ghost and MJ, my line of thinking is that if its about medical insurance then there's not going to be as many irate customers in as you get in T MOB. It's the angry customers that freaked me out, I couldnt handle it when people were shouting at me.

Why don't you train to be an embalmer? blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 12:10:32
QUOTE(EBu @ Jan 27 2009, 11:44 AM) [snapback]570464[/snapback]
The monkey on this occasion is bang on! thumbup2.gif

He's been given the customary banana! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 12:16:37
QUOTE(dazed @ Jan 27 2009, 12:09 PM) [snapback]570467[/snapback]
Lets face it the Labour party are masters at taking cash from business 'friends' even personal ones , Mandelson springs to mind for that one, and the Tories are not any different.

Lets not forget the Unions also bung the Labourites in attempt to influenece Them so although the SNP have had donations they are amatuers at this compared the London based parties.
No one can alter the fact the Labourite Lords are game for a large cash bonus the sad part is they think its ok and dont see anything wrong with it! Bungs to Peers ?? at least you cannot accuse the SNP of being a part of that they do not sit in the Lords nor will they ever.

Never say never--

I give you Lord Bawheid of Bannockburn!

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mortonjag 2009-01-27 12:41:07
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jan 27 2009, 12:19 PM) [snapback]570474[/snapback]
what is your beef with her
maybe she turned you down all these years ago

Good gracious no-I had a degree before she was born, even if she's considerably older than my most recent partner!

If you're asking a serious question, I'll ask you one in return.

Do you think that the average retired General Practitioner is likely to know a wee bit more about the organisation of the N.H.S. than 'the man in the street'?

...and since we're on a political theme, a simple 'Yes', or 'No' will suffice! blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 12:44:40
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 27 2009, 12:39 PM) [snapback]570478[/snapback]
Think what thay are actually meaning is nothing like " aww naw "

Poly lingual for 14K-I'd tell them where to stick it! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 12:48:07
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 27 2009, 12:45 PM) [snapback]570481[/snapback]
I think the problem is that we shouldn't TRY to defend a lead - we should try to increase it. The late great Bobby Collins no less once told me "if you don't know what to do with the ball, put it in that net up the other end". If we attack the other team, they are the ones who are going to be on the back foot. Our attitude seems to be that we assume we're not good enough to control the game and so need to sit back and defend. The fact that we can get ourselves a lead in the first place suggests we ARE good enough.

Think about the 4-1 win at Queens: we were 3 up before half time and yet no-one regarded us as being in a safe position as we know how Morton can throw things away. Queens came out and hammered us for 25 minutes, luckily only scoring one. Stuart Greacen then grabbed a terrific goal with a header and that killed the game. If you really want to kill a game off, score another goal or three. Either that or make damn sure your defence is totally impenetrable.


I sincerely believe that we could be another half dozen points to the better if that philosophy had been applied. Hopefully Mr Irons IS smart enough to learn by his mistakes.
mortonjag 2009-01-27 12:50:28
QUOTE(dazed @ Jan 27 2009, 12:45 PM) [snapback]570482[/snapback]
Dream on MJ ! laugh.gif It will NEVER happen!

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He looks quite winsome in that picture don't you think. No wonder older women surround him like flies do a turd.
mortonjag 2009-01-27 12:53:13
QUOTE(Thrax @ Jan 27 2009, 12:49 PM) [snapback]570485[/snapback]
why would you want to shave your hands?? rolleyes.gif unsure.gif




Health & Illness
For Teens by Teens

Hairy Situations: Too Much, Too Little & Shaving / Question
Published: September 25, 2003

Dear TeenHealthFX,

hey this is really embarrising for me! i have hair all over the back of my hands and on my knuckles! and i have been waxing and shaving them for a really long time! and it just looks gross is there any thing i can do to get rid of it or make it less noticable

Signed: Hairy Hands-Help!



Dear Hairy Hands-Help!,



Unwanted hair is embarrassing for everyone and whether you are male or female. It is normal to have some hair on your hands and knuckles regardless of gender. It may be more prominent on others due to complexion and hair color.



There are many hair removal methods and you need to find the one that is best for you. Shaving is often the most convenient but can lead to painful ingrown hairs. Waxing will leave a hairless surface for a longer period and is a good method for most (but we recommend using a salon to reduce the chance of injury from hot wax). Yet, if these methods are not helping there are a few other options.



Depilatories can also remove unwanted hair by using chemicals to destroy hair on the surface. There are also products that can bleach or lighten the hair and make them less noticeable. Before you try this method on your hands, try using it on an inconspicuous part of your body first to make sure your skin is not too sensitive to the chemicals.



Electrolysis is a more permanent (and costlier) hair removal method. Hairs are removed one at a time by an electric current that destroys the hair follicle. These sessions can be costly and may require more than one visit to remove all unwanted hair.



It may be a good idea to discuss your situation with your doctor. He or she may want to do an evaluation to make sure there is no underlying medical condition that is causing you to have excessive hair. He or she may also make recommendations for your hair removal.

Signed: TeenHealthFX

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mortonjag 2009-01-27 13:15:27
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 27 2009, 01:02 PM) [snapback]570492[/snapback]
Trouble is, teams whom we are beating, inevitably use their subs and as often as not, if they are chasing the game, they will be attack minded subs who come on against our tiring team, especially in midfield. We have subs too! In fact, with a full squad to choose from, we have one of the strongest subs bench in the league so Irons needs to learn to use them. As has been said in a number of places, bringing on Paartalu, Jenkins and Russell would have in my opinion kept the momentum running in our favour and enabled us to see off Livi on Saturday. Saturday though, is not the only example as this thread has demonstrated.

I think Irons is overall doing a decent job but he is still learning tactically and he better be a quick learner!

What perturbs me is the possibility that DI allows his heart to rule his head too much. He needs to learn how to utilise the squad in a completely dispassionate way. Less big cuddles and more 'MAKE me like you's! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 13:19:31
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 27 2009, 01:03 PM) [snapback]570493[/snapback]
Please then statto do show us your objective, factual and conclusive method of measuring the accuracy of Harding's balls in hitting the target in comparison to the other squad members. Given that Masterton & Jenkins both recently became fathers and Colin Stewart has one on the way, I'd say they hit the target better than Harding. Unless of course you know something we don't which may give rise to a glut of paternity suits in the home dressing room?

I sense innuendo! unsure.gif

QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 27 2009, 01:04 PM) [snapback]570495[/snapback]
Aye well once he gets rid of Smith at left back then that would be an option as Jimbo seems to spend a lot of his time covering for Smith and tucking in behind him in anticipation of the attacker getting by Smith.

I've been quite impressed by Smiffy's balls too. They are longer and silkier than DM's
mortonjag 2009-01-27 13:21:56
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 27 2009, 01:08 PM) [snapback]570496[/snapback]
Aye sure - turn those dog years into human years and you'll soon see your young pup is an old bitch.

laugh.gif

She IS older than you Ratarse-NOT A LOT mind-but older! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 13:26:35 I don't really DO politics, but unless I'm mistaken the composure of the present day House of Lords renders it a fairly accurate filterer of daft legislation-far more efficient than in the old days of drunken hereditary Peers.
mortonjag 2009-01-27 13:34:31
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 27 2009, 12:52 PM) [snapback]570487[/snapback]
Are you saying you're only average? Thought so, no ambition whatsoever, MJ...

Actually though, is she not perfectly correct when she says that handwashing and using that antibacterial gel is a very cost effective and simple way of reducing infections? If not, why do I do it any time I go near a hospital ward? I think your obvious hatred of Nicola Sturgeon would prevent you from admitting it even if you did agree with anything she said.

More of the same I see-vendettas, jealousy, hatred-what next?

The woman is f*cking useless at her highly paid job. Her PR with professionals is abysmal because she prefers to listen to her own spin doctors.

Do you wash your precious mitts as described because wee Nickerless told you to?

I suspect you would jump off a bloody cliff if Bawheid snapped his fingers in command.

Wake up and smell the coffee Alibi. I don't tell you how to run your business, even if I DID warn you about Broke Millstone! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 13:42:06
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 27 2009, 01:27 PM) [snapback]570506[/snapback]
Hello,

Back on 8th December I bought a treadmill from Amazon.co.uk for my wife for Christmas. When they were delivering it they called to let me know they would be here in 20minutes. The box was really heavy, it took two huge men to lift it.

On Christmas day we put all the peices together but to the dissapointment of my wife the electics didnt work.

On January 6th when Amazons customer services started back after the break I called them to let them know about the problem.

My wife and I didnt realise the treadmill was going to be so heavy but we thought the policy would be that we'd need to exchange it. The lady at Amazon said we could get a full refund if we liked.

They sent out a van again to uplift it.

They have today refunded the total cost of £229 which included delivery charge.

They phoned us to confirm that they have now refunded us.

Absolutely fantastic.


Has she still got the hamsters?
mortonjag 2009-01-27 14:01:56
QUOTE(Loveless @ Jan 27 2009, 01:48 PM) [snapback]570510[/snapback]
It annoyes me immensly when politicians get involved with health care provision. These decisions should always be made by clinical directors, who should always at least be nurses, and preferably, doctors. Lay people have no place dictating NHS policy in my opinion.

I'd be perfectly happy to see a non professional superstructure provided it was committed to honesty and genuine attempts to patch up our moribund health Service, and would accept coal face advice.

No vote catching body, however, will be persuaded to be unpopular. mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 14:04:25
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 27 2009, 01:55 PM) [snapback]570517[/snapback]
There are pictures of 75 Rangers fans in today's Sun. Check out number 35 at the top right of page 4. I think Davie Irons has some explaining to do. laugh.gif

...and it's got f*ck all to do with Manchester! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 14:05:28 Does nobody make his own pieces any more?
mortonjag 2009-01-27 14:08:13
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jan 27 2009, 01:47 PM) [snapback]570509[/snapback]
Simple question, will morton ever follow thistles example and let kids into cappielow free?

over the years its been brought up, discussed, suggested etc and nothings ever really happened. Living in Glasgow its now making more "financial" sense to start taking the wains along to see partick thistle when they are at home, to get them interested in football (arguablly the wrong place to do this) and have an affordable day out, like i did last week.

ill have two kids in tow. £17 for the parent child gate and £4 for a single kid. Not that at the age of 3 and 8 they are gonna watch much of the game. its gonna cost a minimum (including fares) of £35 to go to cappielow now. i could knock fifteen quid off that by going to firhill.. if they were at home on sat.

Lets face it they are the future supporters, if you get them in when they are young to start supporting in the first place. they may buy a programme, a scarf, a pie or something and its a few more pennies in the clubs coffers. With around 7500 free spaces inside cappielow and a need to attract future paying supporters i would have thought it to be reasonable business sense...

come on morton.. do i end up being a morton fan only when partick thistle aint at home?
or do you encourage morton fans to bring the kids to the games, the support of the future?

I had to think hard about should i post it or not. . . its been said many times before and its been ignored many times before.

wots yer thoughts.


For once I'm being serious when I suggest that you should email the club with those specific concerns. I believe that in the longer term Morton will benefit from letting kids in free.
mortonjag 2009-01-27 14:09:47
QUOTE(Thrax @ Jan 27 2009, 02:08 PM) [snapback]570526[/snapback]
no man has ever made peices....mummy does it!

Mr Bam will HAVE you! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 14:28:06
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 27 2009, 02:21 PM) [snapback]570536[/snapback]
£4 isn't much at all...

It's four times more than £1 and a significant fraction of the disposable weekly income of many parents though!
mortonjag 2009-01-27 14:30:37
QUOTE(Thrax @ Jan 27 2009, 02:17 PM) [snapback]570534[/snapback]
i think youve cracked it! carpets are the carriers of the diseases!

A dirty shag has many a time caused infection.
mortonjag 2009-01-27 14:42:54
QUOTE(irnbru @ Jan 27 2009, 02:35 PM) [snapback]570543[/snapback]
I dont see any reason why this wouldn't work and its something I'd love to see Morton do.

Additionally, I think children of this age could be more involved in match days rather than just getting in to the ground for free. I know for a fact there are quite a few people who are Morton supporters because of the old School's cup that used to be played before games with penaltys at half time in front of the crowd.

It might not exactly be a massive crowd but for a 10 year old to run out on to the park and to experience a little of what a Morton player does gives them a lot of feelings for the club thatthey may never have had. Most of us are lucky enough to support Morton through family but for some this might be their first football match and is something that will always be there for them. This would get a few more paying in as well if family came to watch so its not all long term thinking.

The club do need to act in some way to get youngsters to come to games and the current financial climate would probably be a bonus here.


Far be it from me ever to criticise the Club. We now have a 'fan friendly' director in place. I'm sure Stuart Duncan would at least let folks have a reply if they write to him.
mortonjag 2009-01-27 14:47:01
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 27 2009, 02:34 PM) [snapback]570542[/snapback]
Highlights up on Livi's site: LFC.co.uk

Didn't realise that it was Smith who lost Griffiths for the first goal too, and from that angle you really do wonder what was going through his mind when he went for the ball for the OG. Cracking header if he was a striker, is a change of position called for? wink.gif

AH-the fickleness of the footie fan.

For what it's worth, and despite the o.g. on Saturday, I scored Smiffy WAY ahead of our number 11, but he's a home bred pure as the driven snow angel, and not some shaven headed ginger Gers reject! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 14:51:52
QUOTE(Thrax @ Jan 27 2009, 02:47 PM) [snapback]570548[/snapback]
laugh.gif

Shag is not invariably associated with BURDZ!

1. A strong coarse tobacco that has been shredded.

2. A matted tangle of hair or fiber; "the dog's woolly shag".

3. A fabric with long coarse nap; "he bought a shag rug".

4. Slang terms for sexual intercourse.

5. A lively dance step consisting of hopping on each foot in turn.
mortonjag 2009-01-27 14:53:35
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 27 2009, 02:49 PM) [snapback]570549[/snapback]
Steak and cheese, lots of onions, peppers, lettuce and southwest sauce. Yummy. I might go get one now.

Where do you youngsters get all the MUNNY?
mortonjag 2009-01-27 15:14:22 Memories! crying.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 15:20:08
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 27 2009, 03:11 PM) [snapback]570557[/snapback]
I would agree that Smith was better than McAlister throughout the game on Saturday. However he's a defender who didn't defend properly for 2 goals, firstly by losing his man at a corner then by panicking and flinging himself at the ball when there was no need.

Defender defending badly = poor performance. Harsh on a guy who's been flung into first team football for the first time in an unfamiliar position, but IMO true.

It's all about opinions and mine are always correct!

If Jimbo hadn't made a total arse of a gilt edge opportunity (which I'll guarantee I would have put away) thumbup2.gif , we'd have been 'out of sight' by half time! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 15:45:19
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 27 2009, 03:24 PM) [snapback]570560[/snapback]
I make my own tortilla wraps for work if it helps smile.gif

Well here's a wee tip (as Dopey said to Snowwhite)--buy wholemeal tortillas-they take a bit of getting used to, but it transforms your diet from starchy stodge to healthy heart protecting and bowel cosseting fibre.

Waistline salad cream is delicious and only vaguely calorific.

Just two from my cornucopia of dietary wisdom! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 16:18:05
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 27 2009, 04:01 PM) [snapback]570575[/snapback]
I am aware that you don't regard her as being any good at her job, but then you don't regard anyone as being any good at any job, do you, whether it's Nicola Sturgeon, Alex Salmond, Davy Irons, your own GP or anyone else for that matter? Would you concede she's at least better than Andy Kerr was?

In an ideal world, the Health Minister woud be a health professional, the Justice minister would be a lawyer (hang on, he is, apparently...) and the First Minister would be, well probably a Chartered Engineer. Education Minister a teacher, Finance Minister an accountant, and the Culture Minister a Morton Supporter. However as some of us have to have proper jobs, they have to make do with what they can get. That's why they all need advisers to tell them what to do.

I wash or gel my hands because there's a fecking big sign telling you to do so for hygiene reasons actually.

PS are you sure you were a GP? I thought that possibly you were actually a gynaecologist, because if you mention the name Mortonjag to anyone around here, the first thing they all say is "fanny".


I was not aware that my cuntliness was so well know in the Borders. Good gracious-fame at last!

So far as those concerned with NHS finances are concerned Sir, it may disappoint you (as it did me incidentally) to learn that Mr Kerr was FAR more realistic and receptive to advice than the unshaven one! thumbup2.gif

Another couple of points of information:

I have an excellent G.P, an excellent Dentist, an excellent Lawyer, an excellent Accountant, and an excellent, loving and caring young partner.

Suffice to say that I was involved in the selection process in each instance, so it's ultimately all down to ME I guess! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 17:24:41
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 27 2009, 05:06 PM) [snapback]570582[/snapback]
It's like £2 for a student. Perhaps you auldies get discounts too?

That's still a massive rip off-how much does a nutritious home made play-piece cost!

Just think-if you save £1.50 a knock five days a week for forty weeks of the year that's a massive £300-and you'll be far healthier! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 17:26:21
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 27 2009, 05:03 PM) [snapback]570581[/snapback]
Exactly. I wouldn't buy anything from those b*****ds.

I must confess I have bought some items on line from Amazon and found them efficient. I wasn't aware of any sinister background story! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 20:11:29 I think that what folks are trying to say tactfully is that Jimbo's career has been FUCKED by Morton, and in no small measure by our previous genius of a manager who also wasted Weatherson at right back, put Alex Walker's career on hold, couldn't use big Sanny properly, repeatedly fielded Gowsa when the boy was knackered etc., etc. mad.gif

I STILL remember seeing the youthful teenage Jimbo playing for the reserves when John Maisano was our 'inside right' and that's where Jimbo played that night. I went home raving about 'the McAlister kid'. He seemed comfortable in that position and made several forceful and direct runs on goal. I 'knew' he had a bright future ahead of him.

Then JM-the visionary whose departure broke the Shooglemeister's heart-waved his magic wand and turned Jimbo into a pseudo left winger--pseudo, not only because the boy's left foot is for standing on, but because in reality he became a dynamic dogsbody. That's what he still is, and it suits Irons defensive mentality to a 'T'. ph34r.gif

Of course, he's a Shoogly Woogly darling too, and along with his mate McGregor who ain't fit for the first division, always has to play-just like the thankfully rejuvenated 'Peter Pan' of God's Saturday's programme notes! The boy's NEVER had the chance to rest, or to think things over. No wonder he's jaded.

Add to that interest from bigger clubs and a constant expectation to deliver-he hasn't had a bloody chance.

I've recently been very scathing about his performances and rightly so, because Jimbo has been absolutely rank of late, and on Saturday was ABYSMAL. Poor LEAFY must really think 'sheep lips' has it in for him big style, to have 'sat on that bench' for ninety minutes against Livi., watching as inept a display of profligacy as he's likely to see in all his life!

Sadly Morton has well and truly fucked Jimbo's career, and Rae is ultimately to blame for signing Managers with as much experience as virgins in a whorehouse.

The boy still has potential, and deserves better. I think he needs a wee rest.
mortonjag 2009-01-27 20:31:21
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 27 2009, 06:11 PM) [snapback]570599[/snapback]
I go to Subway about twice a year. I consider it a luxury.

If you really consider it to be so, SURELY you can afford to shell out £2 more than twice a year.

I've heard all about that MUNNY you spend on the demon drink! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 20:34:49
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 27 2009, 08:10 PM) [snapback]570645[/snapback]
It's SNP policy never to have SNP Lords, although they are entitled to have a quota of Lords same as other parties, they choose not to.

Precisely Spurtle-that's WHY I give you Lord Bawheid of Bannockburn! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 20:36:59
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 27 2009, 05:46 PM) [snapback]570589[/snapback]
The stories are legion : short term contracts, minimum wage hourly rates, summary dismissals, random drug tests, management intimidation etc, etc. In short, I've heard that they're a bunch of cheapskate hire and fire b*****ds that shouldn't be allowed to treat their staff the way they do.

It will stop when the Tories are ousted from power.
mortonjag 2009-01-27 20:42:22 Gentlemen-you are slipping up.


Our thoughts are........ blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 20:43:36
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 27 2009, 08:42 PM) [snapback]570661[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDWhere did you get the Shoogly Smiley?
mortonjag 2009-01-27 20:58:06
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 27 2009, 08:53 PM) [snapback]570667[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2009-01-27 21:02:22
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jan 27 2009, 07:59 PM) [snapback]570639[/snapback]
£17.17

ph34r.gif

£15.37
mortonjag 2009-01-27 21:14:32
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 27 2009, 09:04 PM) [snapback]570674[/snapback]
Aye, you're getting a good deal and the big fat cat profiteers are getting an even better one. Too bad about the poor b*****ds that work for Amazon. I'm disappointed with you Monsieur, I thought that you were a limp wristed do gooder namby pamby lefty like me. tongue.gif

I think it's quite kind of Amazon to give people jobs. They're not obliged to work there.
mortonjag 2009-01-27 21:19:05
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Jan 27 2009, 09:13 PM) [snapback]570677[/snapback]
Been eating Subway for years, and my dad was eating it in New York when it first came out (the first one was opened near a....uh...subway stop).

Spicy Italian with spicy mustard, cheese, extra tomatoes, a HEAP of pickles, salt and pepper, and on a Italian Herbs and Cheese breat...footlong. Oh yea, and cut THE OLD WAY!

Hey Trick-have you ever had a 'Cheese Piece'.?

Two back enders of A Scottish Plain Loaf jammed full of mature cheddar and margarine.

If you're genuinely hungry, ye cannae beat it! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 21:21:12
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 27 2009, 09:18 PM) [snapback]570681[/snapback]
They can be a touch pornographic at times.

Oh well-since NOBODY'S thoughts are with the family I'm going to suggest that the deceased's name sounds vaguely contradictory! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 21:25:34
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Jan 27 2009, 09:22 PM) [snapback]570688[/snapback]
Dare I ask? unsure.gif Is this a legit question?

Aye! unsure.gif

Also described as 'A piece on cheese'. I've never quite understood the 'on' bit.

Used similarly in 'A piece on jam'!
mortonjag 2009-01-27 21:37:12 Deep fried frog.
mortonjag 2009-01-27 22:27:48 It seems that bawbag 07 isn't very fond of Armand! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 22:31:09
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jan 27 2009, 09:40 PM) [snapback]570703[/snapback]
Did he then press his ring into the hot wax to imprint the family crest?

Not quite, though he could occasionally be seen of a little boy's naughty evening pressing something into his ring.
mortonjag 2009-01-27 22:34:07
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 27 2009, 07:54 PM) [snapback]570636[/snapback]
At last, a sensible post from the Jag

laugh.gif

At last Ratarse sees sense! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 22:42:19
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Jan 27 2009, 06:42 PM) [snapback]570614[/snapback]
I don't think there is one post in this entire excellent thread that suggests "it's all Irons fault"

My post of yesterday read

"Irons was to blame, not solely and entirely but the buck stops with him."

If you don't agree with that then what is he getting paid for?



Maybe he's checking with Mr Rae before posting an answer! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 22:45:50
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 27 2009, 10:42 PM) [snapback]570735[/snapback]
laugh.gif Of course they aren't Mentaljag, they should be grateful, 'ever so humble' in fact. tongue.gif

Don't be silly Mr Edwards-just grateful. If you desperately needed a job and somebody gave you one, you would be grateful too I'd imagine! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 23:02:48
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 27 2009, 10:58 PM) [snapback]570744[/snapback]
Why would he have to ask you? unsure.gif

He shouldn't have to! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-27 23:05:03
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 27 2009, 10:49 PM) [snapback]570740[/snapback]
Nope, most definitely nope. If the hand that feeds is the hand of a tyrant, then bite it. Bite the fecker's hand off.

I can see you've never been desperate for a job! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 06:49:19 I swear by Almighty God!


His well known Right Wing Solicitor has a bit of experience in perjury cases it seems!


Mr Anwar became a solicitor in 2000 and teamed up with Jason Beltrami, the son of Joe Beltrami, in a Glasgow-based partnership, before branching out on his own in 2006.
His evidence in a recent Glasgow trial, in which he and his wife had claimed they were racially abused following a car accident, was described as "not credible" by the court. He also stood trial and was acquitted of contempt of court for remarks he made after one of his clients was convicted on terrorism charges


So is it a case of poor wee Tommy and his equally poor wee solicitor friend in a David and Goliath battle with the establishment, or that of a pair of scumbags who think they are bigger that the Law of the Land?

Mortonjag has no preconceived opinion! shutup.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 07:14:11
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Jan 27 2009, 11:35 PM) [snapback]570760[/snapback]
I call it a cheese sanny blush.gif



Semantic change reaches 'the Port' care of TV? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 07:19:22 Just spotted this thread-apologies to CHC!
mortonjag 2009-01-28 07:25:52
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 27 2009, 11:47 PM) [snapback]570766[/snapback]
Wrong again Mentaljag. From time to time I've been desperate for money, food, drink and shelter. I've been down and out and no place to go on more than one occasion. How about you?

Mortonjag prefers not to discuss anything which might be construed as weakness, but professes advanced empathy with the homeless and jobless!

Hey Edwards-Scottish Power do drugs tests on their employees. Yer no supposed to get paid fur bein' 'oot yer face'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 08:52:29 I swear by Almighty God!


His well known Right Wing Solicitor has a bit of experience in perjury cases it seems!


Mr Anwar became a solicitor in 2000 and teamed up with Jason Beltrami, the son of Joe Beltrami, in a Glasgow-based partnership, before branching out on his own in 2006.
His evidence in a recent Glasgow trial, in which he and his wife had claimed they were racially abused following a car accident, was described as "not credible" by the court. He also stood trial and was acquitted of contempt of court for remarks he made after one of his clients was convicted on terrorism charges


So is it a case of poor wee Tommy and his equally poor wee solicitor friend in a David and Goliath battle with the establishment, or that of a pair of scumbags who think they are bigger that the Law of the Land?

Mortonjag has no preconceived opinion! shutup.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 08:56:22
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 28 2009, 08:35 AM) [snapback]570807[/snapback]
See, this is where you fall down every time Alibi. You can't get your head around the fact that some may hate the SNP whilst holding the older two parties you mention in equal contempt.


Or the fact that some may comfortably espouse the notion of true self sufficiency while still seeing Bawheid as a self gratifying twister.
mortonjag 2009-01-28 09:19:16
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 28 2009, 08:54 AM) [snapback]570813[/snapback]
Trois maisons mais aucune toilette? Quel dommage.

4/10, must try harder. dry.gif

Trois maisons, et pas un seul WC-ce une honte! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 09:24:09
QUOTE(irnbru @ Jan 28 2009, 09:01 AM) [snapback]570815[/snapback]
Your contradicting yourself here if your saying he'll bust a gut but will miss an easy chance. All this shows is that he lacks confidence or, more likely judging by other players, DI does not do anything at training in an attacking sense. I'm pretty sure he wont be missing chances like this because he doesn't want to be here.

Having said that maybe being dropped or at least subbed will give him a wee boost to help him get back to his best. Players should be trying to improve all the time with help from their manager and comments like 'he might do something so we left him on' wont help as that WILL encourage complacency.

I agree. We've all heard of golfers revolutionising their game just because a wise Pro sorted out some very basic errors. In my opinion Jimbo's just been allowed to be Jimbo when in fact he could be MUCH better.
mortonjag 2009-01-28 09:26:27
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 28 2009, 09:22 AM) [snapback]570819[/snapback]
If you look at my post on the the match video thread:

http://www.greenockmorton.org/forum/index....showtopic=25684

From the evidence I was surprised to see Smith was the only Morton player to make a challenge for both goals, plus One's shot he blocked and deflected a certain goal onto the bar. Shimmin was most to blame for the first goal and Cuthbert plus missing defnders for the second.

Smiffy has been the 'last man' two or three times this season and has had a couple of superb clearances with Cuthbert well and truly stranded.

Damned if you do, and damned if you don't! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 10:06:27
QUOTE(irnbru @ Jan 28 2009, 09:30 AM) [snapback]570822[/snapback]
The man Smith was marking walked away from him and the ball dropped to him before he finally woke up and decided to try blocking a shot. He should have been much closer to his man and would not have had to make an attempt like this if he was.

Watching the video actually made him look worse in my opinion. Almost every time he is shown he is 2 or 3 seconds slower to react than anyone else in the box - even the block he made is because he was too slow to get there in the first place.

Smith fools some people because he makes sliding tackles but all of these are because he is so slow to react and his positional sense is so bad. He's not even a second division standard player never mind a first division team looking to challenge at the top end. The arguement is young is irrelevant too. He's 20 and if he's not of a decent standard by then he never will be.

That's patent nonsense!

Players mature at different rates. Craig McPherson for example only developed into a competent SPL player in his mid/late twenties.

For what it's worth I feel Smiffy is just another victim of the 'utility player' concept which has plagued us ever since Cowboy left. The boy's a natural central defender with an International Cap at junior level, and you're accusing him of not even being second division standard.

I honestly suspect an agenda! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 10:11:42
QUOTE(dazed @ Jan 28 2009, 09:38 AM) [snapback]570824[/snapback]
Perhaps thats why he did win???

Well he's a politician of sorts, so lying comes more naturally than honesty.

Let's face it, Sheridan is a dragged up piece of Pollok scum who by some genetic quirk inherited just enough grey matter to be as big a danger to the public as he is to himself. wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 10:16:07
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jan 28 2009, 09:59 AM) [snapback]570831[/snapback]
prostitutes dont count
in answer to your question yes, bhut your hatred of her is blinding so if she did something good, you would still criticise

In truth the bearded lady is more to be pitied than hated. Who in his right mind would choose to be a Health Minister with the current state of the NHS, and that in BAWHEID'S gang!

A poor wee soul really, and if I met her I'd give her a piece of my mind and a big hug too! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 10:32:14
QUOTE(irnbru @ Jan 28 2009, 10:21 AM) [snapback]570836[/snapback]
He's not a natural central defender. His own manager has stated he only has one foot, he cant mark, is pretty poor at tackling and has no positional sense. None of these are hallmarks of a natural footballer whatever the position.

Craig McPherson is completely different - he had natural ability with a good range of passing, a good touch and great awareness that were developed into a quality player. Smith has none of these.

I dont have any agenda - I'm judging the guy on his performances over the season and they haven't been good enough.

...and I'm judging you on your claim that he's not even a second division player. As I stated, that is patent nonsense. How many central defenders are naturally 'two footed'? unsure.gif

Craig McPherson was SO left footed that it took him ages to adapt and mature to his FULL potential. Time will tell with Smiffy. If I'm wrong that will be a first! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 10:57:11
QUOTE(irnbru @ Jan 28 2009, 10:44 AM) [snapback]570841[/snapback]
Not all are naturally two footed but the can at least clear the ball or pass it back with their weaker foot.

As I said McPherson had bags of ability that was moulded into a good, solid player by the right coaching (something that should have been done with Jamie Stevenson over the last few seasons but thats another matter).

Smith doesnt seem to have much ability at all so I dont think he can be compared with McPherson here. It could be argued that he tries hard but I'm afraid thats not enough at this level if we are to challenge for promotion.

OK-devil's advocate here-do you rate him less highly than David McGregor?
mortonjag 2009-01-28 11:02:46
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 28 2009, 10:52 AM) [snapback]570844[/snapback]
Yes I am. I've said before, this is a battle of two uglies, Sheridan and the News of the Screws. Let them fight it out if they wish but don't involve the public.

Mr Edwards-look at the bigger picture please. If Shaggy is allowed to walk away, thumbing his nose at the law of the land, he'll just use that as yet another platform on which to further his self gratification at public expense.

If you don't exterminate vermin when you have the opportunity, they may end up overrunning your home! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 11:06:20
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 28 2009, 10:38 AM) [snapback]570840[/snapback]
Flicking through these as we speak. Seen some photos of Lynedoch Street and the surrounding areas that I recognise.
Brilliant photos.
Saw Barbarossa's old house in one of the photos.

He told me he lives in a huge castle with lions guarding the gates!
mortonjag 2009-01-28 11:10:07
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 28 2009, 11:06 AM) [snapback]570852[/snapback]
No need to apologise Jaggy, we're pals now. wub.gif

De rien, M. Trois Maisons! laugh.gif

QUOTE(leyTON @ Jan 28 2009, 11:06 AM) [snapback]570853[/snapback]
im just confused that a judge says someone in the case is lying and then the police go after the person who won the case.
when he went on big brother i think he may have been thinking he would lose his case, thus getting no damages and in fact probably losing money as he would be countersued.
hes a clever guy, cant think why he would think to take on the NOTW if they were telling the truth.
to be honest, I have a lot of respect for the guy, and to be honest, Im glad that we have a system where we can vote for more than one party, as his party is guarenteed a place on my list every time. Made the parliament a better place

So was Hitler!
mortonjag 2009-01-28 11:22:53
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jan 28 2009, 11:14 AM) [snapback]570857[/snapback]
then why isnt everyone up for trial?
no sign of rosie kane etc going up

I'm just about to light the blue touch paper! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 11:29:39
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 28 2009, 11:24 AM) [snapback]570861[/snapback]
Because he's driven by his ego. He believes his own lies. His erstwhile colleagues in the SSP advised him not to proceed with the libel action but Shagger opted to take up 'the sword of truth' like Aitken tried before him.

Exactly Mr Edwards-in that respect he's no different from Blair, Thatcher, Bawheid, or any other political scum you care to mention.

Shagger, however, is not quite so bright as he imagines-a typical failing of those who've always been top of the Third Division instead of propping up the SPL! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 11:32:15
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 28 2009, 10:44 AM) [snapback]570842[/snapback]
Thanks for that. I thought that the whole site had closed but I see now that part of it remains as a test facility. I hope nothing ever goes wrong with the tests.

Unless Shagger and Rosie pop down for a wee pre-hump demo!
mortonjag 2009-01-28 11:42:30
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 28 2009, 11:37 AM) [snapback]570868[/snapback]
Aye, it's called skiving

Not in any way implicating our esteemed posters Ghostie, I've come to believe that certain children are ineducable.

You can still beat some sense into them mind! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 11:46:30
QUOTE(irnbru @ Jan 28 2009, 11:35 AM) [snapback]570867[/snapback]
I think McGregor is a better footballer but his injury set backs have limited him in other ways. So to answer your question I rate him less highly than McGregor in terms of ability but probably on par with him on what they bring to the team, for want of a better explanation.

Having said that, I think McGregor is less prone to making mistakes and is more on the same wavelength as other players so I'd start him over Smith if I had to choose between them.

I'd much prefer we signed someone to play here instead of what seems like a constant search for more midfielders however rather than debating who is the least poor of the players we have.

I'm afraid that's where we'll have to agree to differ. Davie is a good all rounder at a lower level, and a failure in the present division because of his lack of pace and indecisiveness.

Anyway, you're correct -we need proper full backs, proper wingers, a proper playmaker, a proper Manager, and Mr Donald's MUNNY! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 11:50:23
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 28 2009, 11:47 AM) [snapback]570874[/snapback]
I think I am looking at the bigger picture. Why expend 17,000 hours of polis time and £1.5m of taxpayers money on such a trivial case? He'll thumb his nose at public expense whatever the outcome, if he wins he'll consider himself redeemed, if he loses he'll go to jail as a martyr.
The case boils down to this : News of the Screws says Sheridan's a shagger and Sheridan says he's not. Big picture? That wouldn't even make it as B movie. The matter should've remained civil (or should that be uncivil) and not involved the police who surely have much more important things to deal with. But what the feck, it's too late now, we'll be wasting even more dosh on this pantomime. As I said on your other thread, that pompous arse Findlay and his pal McBride don't come cheap, now their fees will be added to the legal aid bill.
BTW Bad as he is, I wouldn't class Shagger as vermin. I wouldn't even put Murdoch in that category although I see him as a much more malign influence.

It's a loose term Mr E.-like diarrhoea! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 12:44:33
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 28 2009, 12:28 PM) [snapback]570886[/snapback]
The brain trust on here has it that not only is he the new Roberto Carlos but that he could play SPL football in future.

Funny how we all see things differently...


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Maybe if you develop your potential as quickly as Smiffy will, you'll be able to join! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 12:47:36
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 28 2009, 11:52 AM) [snapback]570877[/snapback]
My old flat in Roxburgh Street is on there. It was right beside the old Co-op. Took me a while to work out whether it was or not.

Good God, Peter!!!

My Auntie Bella had a sweetie shop in Wellington St., My Aunt Kate lived in Trafalgar St., and when I was a wee boy I lived in Holmscroft St. blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 12:50:30
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 28 2009, 12:09 PM) [snapback]570882[/snapback]
laugh.gif You just can't help it. Tell me this, do Judges sit on stools?


Possibly Mr E., though I can confirm that Toly M.P.s sit on benches where they pass motions.
mortonjag 2009-01-28 13:02:56
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 28 2009, 12:52 PM) [snapback]570893[/snapback]
But not always at the first sitting.

True, but when the white paper's produced you can be sure they're about to pass something.
mortonjag 2009-01-28 13:04:28
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 28 2009, 12:53 PM) [snapback]570894[/snapback]
He does. It's his old house I saw, from when we were nippers biggrin.gif


...and now he's a full grown crab! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 13:10:55
QUOTE(dazed @ Jan 28 2009, 01:07 PM) [snapback]570901[/snapback]
They wont want that riff raff down in Bishy, and I dont think even shagger would touch Rosie with the proverbial barge pole! Mind you doesnt a certain pink suited politician reside down that way???????


[attachment=5108:annabel_goldie.jpg]

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mortonjag 2009-01-28 13:13:04
QUOTE(dazed @ Jan 28 2009, 01:10 PM) [snapback]570903[/snapback]
I dont think she would want to either ! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


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I'd be the epitome of decorum, and offer her tea, scones, and a free shave.
mortonjag 2009-01-28 13:15:35
QUOTE(BMC @ Jan 28 2009, 01:09 PM) [snapback]570902[/snapback]
Becuase the police have obvioulsy investigated both sides and found evidence against Sheridan perhaps? You can't just stick everyone on trial without a case.

From what Ive been told (which I wont post here for obvious reasons) doesnt look good for Sheridan.


..but if you p.m. me I'll confirm that they've got the Jack the Lad wideo by the short and curlies! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 13:18:29
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 28 2009, 08:37 AM) [snapback]570808[/snapback]
Was the big storm not January 1968? I remember passing a wee bungalow at the bottom of Margaret Street where a huge chimneyhead from a red sandstone tenement had been blown over and tons of stone had fallen on the bungalow, killing a woman who was in the house.

I remember visting Chalmers Street many times in the late 50s with my Dad when he was doing his house calls (he was a GP). I remember that everyone who lived there seemed to be called Docherty.

Aye, the Docherty's have always been a sickly bunch! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 13:19:48
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 28 2009, 01:16 PM) [snapback]570910[/snapback]


From spending too much time on this pubic massage board?
mortonjag 2009-01-28 13:22:38 I never envisaged 'kids' just being able to swan through the turnstyles, but I still think children should be admitted free when accompanied by an adult.
mortonjag 2009-01-28 13:57:36
QUOTE(dazed @ Jan 28 2009, 01:23 PM) [snapback]570916[/snapback]
Thats the one , should be rounded up, branded and put in a field! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


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But she's a lovely lady-if only she'd met the right partner things would have been different. Apparently she scoured the whole of Aberdeen and Angus without a single taker.
mortonjag 2009-01-28 14:00:52
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jan 28 2009, 01:34 PM) [snapback]570917[/snapback]
Discuss


Nae chance!


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mortonjag 2009-01-28 14:12:31
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 28 2009, 02:09 PM) [snapback]570925[/snapback]
Fair enough if you think other people are to blame too and Smith's getting more stick than he deserves, but to exonerate him from any blame is just nonsense really. He still lost his man from a corner, and he still flung himself at a ball he shouldn't have gone for(he said in the papers that he heard a shout to leave it but went for it anyway). Even if you think other players did more wrong, Smith was at fault.


I think the actual words were that 'he'd heard a shout'-which is different!
mortonjag 2009-01-28 14:14:03
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jan 28 2009, 02:07 PM) [snapback]570924[/snapback]
rumour mill is going crazy at our offices in the parliament.
the only decisions being weighed up now, unless the greens can be persuaded to abstain, is to chance a general election, or persevere with last years budget.


'Mon thae greens! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 15:29:24
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jan 28 2009, 03:02 PM) [snapback]570942[/snapback]
youd be surprised, there is much in holyrood that gray has already charmed senior lib dem figures, and between they will try and persuade the greens to vote down the budget, then move an iain gray for first minister proposal in the next fe weeks, should the budget fail

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mortonjag 2009-01-28 15:31:43
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 28 2009, 02:32 PM) [snapback]570933[/snapback]
Amazon make a lot of money through fees for the marketplace but routinely lose money on other lines.
The last 'big' album I worked on in the record industry was the Arctic Monkeys debut and we sold that to the independents and Fopp for £6.64 trade and Amazon for £7.64. The independents retailed the CD for either £9.99 or £10.99, an average mark up of 35% which is completely rubbish. Amazon retailer the CD for £8.99. Cost plaus VAT is £8.98 and once P&P is factored in Amazon were losing around 30-50p every time they sold a copy. What really hacks me off about the whole thing is the muppets on here who bleat about 'being ripped off by shops like Rhythmic' when shops like Rhythmic are making about 13% points a piece.
What sort of soulless fecker would want to shop in that way anyway? I'm sitting typing this in a cafe in York and York city centre is an excellent model for retail given the mix of multiples and independents.


And fing's just arrived back from EK with the contents of your wife's jewellery box! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 15:34:55
QUOTE(Thrax @ Jan 28 2009, 03:22 PM) [snapback]570955[/snapback]
unsure.gif your going to law school...i thought u were about 50!?

He's only forty one-mortonjag is old enough to be his daddy. I'd say that by forty one, most people are just about ripe for starting serious study without infantile distractions! laugh.gif

QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jan 28 2009, 03:28 PM) [snapback]570958[/snapback]
Many a good tune played on an old fiddle. wink.gif Ask Mj. ph34r.gif


Absolutely Mrs T., and I've just enrolled for Ballet Classes at a proper Ballet School! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 15:36:21
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jan 28 2009, 03:35 PM) [snapback]570965[/snapback]
I'm alive and well just off air at the moment but hoping to rectify matters shortly!


Thank f*ck-I was beginning to think you were deid! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 15:39:51
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 28 2009, 03:35 PM) [snapback]570966[/snapback]
I thought he was given a shout to clear it? If it was "leave it" then it couldn't have been Cuthbert as he would have come out to collect the ball as it was just in front of him. In any case Cuthbert should have come out to collect.


What he said was that if he had left it he knew the attacker was going to knock it in so he had no choice. He said he 'heard a shout'-that's all-not a shout to clear it OR leave it, but he knew he had to make contact or the other guy would net it.

Having said all that, he bizarrely admitted that he knew the minute he committed himself that he was going to score!
mortonjag 2009-01-28 16:27:23
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 28 2009, 03:48 PM) [snapback]570978[/snapback]
So did McCluskey. And Broadfoot has won several full caps, and he's still a diddy. Also Warren Cummings, Robbie Stockdale...junior caps are an irrelevance.

Smith can never be compared to Hagi, because Hagi always had potential, Smith doesn't.Smith can't even kick a ball properly, not can he header one. His early balls in to the box aren't done through any sort of intelligence, it's because every time the ball comes to him he just hits it whatever way he's facing. He's awful. No wonder Morton have under-achieved so badly for the last few decades if a guy like Smith is now considered acceptable.


Time will tell as it always does. You are clearly way over the top but you seem a bad tempered bugger about everything this weather! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 16:31:03
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jan 28 2009, 03:39 PM) [snapback]570972[/snapback]
And how are the members of the board treating you these aul' fella?

They've been quite civilised lately my old friend. The insiders have not been stirring up too much shit! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 19:20:50
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 28 2009, 04:32 PM) [snapback]570990[/snapback]
I know it will tell, it already is telling.

And is it any wonder when we're having to watch the least ambitious football seen at Cappielow in my lifetime, watching a team that should be perfectly capapble of mounting a serious title challenge stumbling about blindly, not going anywhere fast?

It's pretty pish being a Morton fan this weather, especially when you look at the likes of Falkirk, St. Mirren and Hamilton.


You know my feelings Eanie! I'm just not sure that slaughtering individual players often helps very much, and I think Smith has had a rough enough time from the man who signed him.

The real culprit is Rae. He lives a charmed life! Having wanted to retain the last managerial buffoon, he could have chosen an experienced replacement but yet again opted for second best. Irons gets huge praise from almost everybody for having 'saved us from relegation'.

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It's just as well our last two games were against sides who could no longer 'give a f*ck'-eh! What about the away game at Broadwood which REALLY mattered-that was just swept under the carpet in the eventual euphoria at Firhill where fudmeister Rae had the temerity to appear on the pitch as if HE'D achieved something.

SO, what I'm really saying is-YES it's still very frustrating, though I believe that sheep lips is progressing a little-probably because, unlike JM, he reads my advice on this wee massage board.

Save your anger for the real villain of the piece. We're into our EIGHTH year with the old dodder as Manager and we're still unable to hold a candle to bloody HAMILTON. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 19:38:01
QUOTE(Savo @ Jan 28 2009, 07:19 PM) [snapback]571039[/snapback]
.

I think Jim is a talented player with a professional attitude who is not hitting the heights he has in seasons gone past. That happens to all players. He just needs a wee bit of respite and a chance to go back to basics in training to try and recover his best form. I firmly believe that is the best way to get him back on his game.

Indeed, and a Manager who is willing to accept once and for all that the boy should not be stuck out on the left as a dynamic dogsbody just because JM picked the team positions out of a lucky bag! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 19:45:01
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Jan 28 2009, 07:30 PM) [snapback]571045[/snapback]
You wanted Duffy as your manager MJ. To me that is asking relegation to come. Irons has done a good job with the team (along with a few additions) he was given. Yes the football may not be nice, the tactics a bit dodgy and the manager unexperienced, but for me he is doing a better job than McInally. MJ you are expecting too much at one time for this club. Its nice to have expectations but the way you go on its as if we were going to be promotion challengers only after one season returning to the first division. We have built from the back and are generally more difficult to beat. Livi couldnt get a sniff at all until late stupidity cost it for us. Both goals were preventable but its not the apocalypse, life goes on.

I would like to see nice football being played and we are capable of it as seen in the first half on saturday, as it has been made clear no new additions will be coming, may come through loans but not holding my breath, so we have to make do with what we have. A few more hours practicing on the training field wouldnt go a miss for the team.


Mon the ton smile.gif


I'm used to attacks and lies, but that takes the biscuit!

Duffy has more experience than sheep lips and Rotten Alexander put together, so it wasn't a hard pick from the three. That DOESN'T mean I wanted him! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 19:46:24
QUOTE(Zutons @ Jan 28 2009, 06:11 PM) [snapback]571024[/snapback]
It was at Love street yesterday at noon.


How do YOU know? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 19:52:22
QUOTE(Savo @ Jan 28 2009, 07:45 PM) [snapback]571051[/snapback]
I think the vast majority of managers in the British game have no real inclination to get on the front foot and be pro-active with their substitutions. They withdraw into themselves and caution rules the day.

They are usually forced into making substitutions or put them on when they feel they should be seen to do so, if that makes sense.

In contrast, managers from other countries seem to have much less of a problem admitting 'this is going wrong here and we need to fix it right now'.

The most notable change from DI came at Perth in April when he completely changed it round at half time, throwing Russell and Wakey on and it so nearly paid off from what had looked a lost cause.

If the pattern of the play is changing, or a team alters their system, you surely have to get off the back foot and give your opposite number something to think about.

Jim Fleeting was talking about this on Radio Scotland during the (excellent) Killie - Ayr commentary last week, saying that he felt the reason so many teams can't capitalise when their opposition goes down to 10 men is because the team with 11 are much less likely to react by making a change. Instead, they just keep on going and assume the numerical advantage will tell, and very often it does nothing of the sort.


I was interested to hear in the post Bairns match commentary last night, one of the ex pros stating that 'once the team goes onto the park on a Saturday there's very little a manager can do'-adding that it is the job of the experienced players ON the pitch to intermediate.

I found that VERY interesting, both in terms of Grady having saved sheep lips' bacon, but also in respect of his embarrassing attempts to mimic a supercharged windmill in the dugout! blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 19:54:40
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Jan 28 2009, 07:49 PM) [snapback]571055[/snapback]
How the hell was that an attack or a lie? Your preferred choice was Duffy out the three possible candidates. Alexander achieved more than Duffy and Irons was Alexanders right hand man. Duffy relegated Dundee and almost Hibs. Im saying that Duffy was your preferred choice as the majority of your posts on the subject of Irons/bad management/defeat involves lack of experience. Then Rae gets it for choosing Irons. If I was him I would've stayed clear of Duffy as well.


You stated that 'I wanted Duffy'.

OK you just made a wee mistake-don't let it happen again please! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-28 19:57:15
QUOTE(Savo @ Jan 28 2009, 07:32 PM) [snapback]571046[/snapback]
I think Leigh Griffiths has a big chance of doing really well for himself. Rapid, skilful, can finish, and could soon join Snodgrass and Dorrans down in England.


Indeed-I'll never forget the first time I saw him last season at Scapa. The orange boots and bleached hair made me think 'wee ned'-well wee ned or not, the boy is miles ahead of any attacker we've produced in Shoogly's time!
mortonjag 2009-01-28 20:00:01
QUOTE(Savo @ Jan 28 2009, 07:26 PM) [snapback]571044[/snapback]
I think the sort of outreach work which the club is running under Tony Judd is the best way to foster a link between young kids and the club. Going out to the schools, taking the players out there as well, doing a bit of coaching and maybe distributing tickets from time to time is an excellent starting point.


That and the Rev. Dave's prayers! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 06:41:28 On the eve of Bawheid's Budget Battering, (his old colleages at RBS must have been laughing all the way to...erm...home), another of his female nappy rashers and older ugly sister to the unshaven harpy, gets a well deserved slap on the wrist from a respected academic!

WHACKO!


[attachment=5110:fiona_hyslop.jpg]

The Prof. doesn't miss pisslop and hit the wall either! laugh.gif
Turning to Ms Hyslop's aim of making graduates more employable, he says: "I'm afraid this is highly amateurish: every business has different needs and our experience of dealing with businesses is that they cannot articulate those needs very clearly, and when we press them, it often comes down to basic skills such as numeracy and literacy that should be taught in school, and which we would ourselves agree are poorly taught there."

...but with this curriculum vitae, what should he have expected!! blink.gif




MA (Hons) Economic History and Sociology

Scottish College of Textiles
Postgraduate Dip in Industrial Administration

Sales and marketing Standard Life Assurance Company




With that background she's ideally suited to her position at Holyrood-NOT-just like little sis Nickerless. Does Bawheid care? CAN Bawheid care-what a shower of inexperienced farts-it's WORSE than Morton!





Oh and forget wee Muir Russell's sycophantic crap. He' oot the door at Glasgow Uni. this year and probably wants yet another sinecure in Auld Reekie! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 07:07:05 Aye Weegie-before you know it you'll be old 'n grey! laugh.gif

ENJOY! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 07:09:33
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 28 2009, 05:48 PM) [snapback]571013[/snapback]
a socialist politician who's party had garnered more than 100,000 votes in 2003? we can't have that! let's f*** him over and it'll only cost £100,000 rolleyes.gif


From more than 100,000 clowns my friend! ph34r.gif mad.gif dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 07:12:04
QUOTE(Loveless @ Jan 28 2009, 05:49 PM) [snapback]571015[/snapback]
Why is almost every SNP supporter I've ever met is A ) so thin skinned? and B ) unable to see anything wrong with anything their party says or does.

Recently, the Tories claimed that dentists in Britain where overcharging patients and providing them with treatment that wasn't required - I can assure you this is absolute nonsense. It's a similar situation whereby politicians who know nothing about health care provision make casual generalisations that could land professional bodies and individual clinicians in hot water.

If that non-issue had been brought up here, I can assure you I would have been the first to use the phrase "idiotic tories".

I also find it worrying your only defense is basically to say that other parties are less able and intelligent.


Mainly because those who can't see through Bawheid ain't very bright I'd imagine! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 07:16:17 I use this one and find it good. I had Netgear before and it worked fine too. Forget the quoted price in the link-it's cheaper if you shop around-mine came from Asda!

Buffalo
mortonjag 2009-01-29 07:30:09
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 28 2009, 06:25 PM) [snapback]571031[/snapback]
If they don't then they will come to a solution and pass the budget. If not, I can't see how an election will be avoided.

The SNP seem the strongest party if an election is called. Labour could lose more than a few seats, as will the Lib-Dems and the Greens may not return a single MSP.

I have a sneaking suspicion there will be quite a few Labour MSP's quaking in their shoes just now. Their act of bravado in voting against the budget may backfire big time. I don't believe they thought the Greens would actually vote against the government.

Although I personally don't believe the SNP would like an election just now
. But I honestly believe the SNP will return more MSP's than they have at present


I thought you were saying only a few days back that Bawheid has NEVER been so popular!


I invite a caption competition!

[attachment=5112:salmond.jpg]

I wonder if Moira put my bet on? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 07:34:22
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 29 2009, 07:28 AM) [snapback]571186[/snapback]
Noticed that his legal team is to be instructed by Aamer Anwar, another potential customer for my 'Uday Hussein: hero of the left' range of t-shirts which will be in the shops soon. So if you're a misguided leftist buy one, only £25. You could interchange it with your 'George Bush: war criminal' and 'Che: he's not a murderer honest' shirts.


Who was kicked out of court for presenting evidence which the judge described as 'not credible' = unbelievable = lying = perjury so Shagger has experienced counsel! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 07:44:03
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Jan 28 2009, 07:58 PM) [snapback]571062[/snapback]
Usual retort then. I could classify that as an attack MJ but im not that childish rolleyes.gif

Asking you to get your facts right can in no way be construed as aggressive my dear! wub.gif

QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Jan 28 2009, 08:05 PM) [snapback]571064[/snapback]
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Jim McAlister, MJ?

...and your point is?

QUOTE(Deego @ Jan 28 2009, 08:20 PM) [snapback]571067[/snapback]
Adam Coakley was capped too. rolleyes.gif

'crap' Deego

QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jan 28 2009, 10:54 PM) [snapback]571131[/snapback]
Out of curiosity, who did you want as manager?

I didn't have anybody in particular in mind-I'd just have loved somebody who could do the job properly. Maybe no such people exist. Maybe sheep lips WAS a godsend. Maybe I'll win the lottery if I start buying tickets! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 07:51:34
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jan 28 2009, 08:51 PM) [snapback]571084[/snapback]
I believe that children are our future
Teach them well and let them lead the way
Show them all the beauty they possess inside
Give them a sense of pride to make it easier
Let the children's laughter remind us how we used to be


Did you make that up all by yourself? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 07:55:59
QUOTE(Toby @ Jan 29 2009, 12:52 AM) [snapback]571173[/snapback]
Yet another in a long line of posts used to belittle the intelligence of the average Morton supporter.............

‘to belittle the intelligence of the average Morton supporter’







laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


mortonjag 2009-01-29 08:00:09
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 29 2009, 07:41 AM) [snapback]571190[/snapback]
Aamer is a complete arse. He used to turn up at gigs years ago when he was a student and, for reasons only known to themselves, some promoters would give him 5 minutes between bands to rant off about something. Dullard.

He was in running for the post of Chancellor at Glasgow Uni. recently-it went to Charles Kennedy. The Uni. Court were absolutely terrified that Aamer might get in. A total trouble maker who would happily cause racial discontent for his own ends.
mortonjag 2009-01-29 08:51:42
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 29 2009, 07:57 AM) [snapback]571195[/snapback]
Here's Ian Russell's take on it:


from; http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/articles/2/33322

“On Saturday [in the 2-2 draw with Livingston] I would have hoped maybe to have come on and helped to stretch the game, but it wasn’t to be.

“We sat back a bit and allowed them to come on to us. I’m sure the manager is frustrated as well.â€


LEAFY also claims:

“But I think I started the season pretty well and scored five goals in 10 games. Then I missed out on the game against Clyde, when we got our first league win, and have never played. blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 08:58:27
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jan 29 2009, 08:15 AM) [snapback]571199[/snapback]
Cable through virgin mate. I take it Id be taking the Netgear one then?


Here's a link to some prices-as I said I found netgear fine-the buffalo's a wee bit more sophisticated in terms of settings etc.

prices
mortonjag 2009-01-29 09:01:55
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jan 28 2009, 01:59 PM) [snapback]570922[/snapback]
do you use the apartment yourself CHC?my uncle has a villa in la manga and he started off renting it out,but the money he was getting in didnt really justify it. He also doesnt like the feeling of stragners sleeping in it.
He nnow goes out roughly 6 or 7 weeks a year, and the other time its mainly used by family and friends


stranglers? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 09:07:10
QUOTE(cmdc @ Jan 29 2009, 09:01 AM) [snapback]571207[/snapback]
I think that's true to an extent. Better managers than Irons have watched on helpless as a team sits deeper and deeper on a lead. Bolton and Liverpool did it just last night, and I don't think it's always as simple as making a substitution to get back on the front foot. That said, I do think we could have reacted a little bit quicker to shore things up.

In terms of Irons' being animated on the touchline, much like McInally's quiter style I don't think it really matters a jot when the players are on the park. It's really just a coping mechanism for the manager I think. Irons is probably quite calm when you compare him so someone like Scolari or O'Neill.


Of course it is, but I believe the constant verbals sometimes have an adverse effect on the players, and definitely piss off the Refs and Linesmen!
mortonjag 2009-01-29 10:21:50
QUOTE(cmdc @ Jan 29 2009, 09:16 AM) [snapback]571212[/snapback]
I'm sure it does piss off the ref and linesmen...but good, they deserve it! I don't really know if it has an effect on the players or not, but my feeling is most will either be oblivious to it or ignore it.

In saying that, I remember John Gregory being sent to the stands when he managed Villa and he decided to stay there for a bit because he thought the players played better without his constant harrassment. Then, at the same time Martin O'Neill manages the same club and looks like a Tazmanian Devil on speed at times, with no negative effect.


laugh.gif laugh.gif

Nonsense-he queries EVERY decision against us and constantly mouths off to the standside linesman. Obviously any LEGITIMATE gripe he may have will be diluted by his pesterings. Regarding the players, Jonaton made some comment on his blog about Shimmin's response to DI when that fated back three went tits up! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 10:24:48
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 29 2009, 09:39 AM) [snapback]571217[/snapback]
Are your piles bothering you again this morning?


Is that question loaded like your rectum?
mortonjag 2009-01-29 10:28:39
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Jan 29 2009, 07:30 AM) [snapback]571187[/snapback]
I thought you were saying only a few days back that Bawheid has NEVER been so popular!


I invite a caption competition!

[attachment=5112:salmond.jpg]

I wonder if Moira put my bet on? laugh.gif


or-


I wonder if Brian ever drove a bus.
mortonjag 2009-01-29 11:10:25
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 29 2009, 10:37 AM) [snapback]571237[/snapback]
You wrote this in response to the thread "Irons, Duffy or Alexander - did we make the right choice?" I suppose this is consistent with what you are saying now.

"I was glad when DI arrived. We escaped relegation-not in an earth shattering manner, but he must be credited with that. He also has a reputation for excellent coaching-mind you his predecessor did too.

I have serious reservations about his ability when it comes down to man-management, and he's obviously not the best tactician. Whether Duffy would be better in those departments I'm not sure, but I believe he couldn't be worse.

I wouldn't have touched Alexander with a bargepole, going on his apparent personal instability, but who knows-he might have proved a winner".

Aye!
mortonjag 2009-01-29 11:18:26
QUOTE(EBu @ Jan 29 2009, 11:05 AM) [snapback]571263[/snapback]
Agree totally.

There's a difference between a manager kicking every ball and contesting every single decision with the linesman. On Saturday he was very vocal, arguing with the linesman at every decision (including one tackle on the far side to which the linesman just laughed at him) until they got it back to 2-2 and he quietened right down...

I'm going to watch Smith in the next game, compare his performances on each half. On the cowshed side where he isn't constantly being yelled at and at the Main Stand side where is barracked for the entire time.

I read this and thought immediately of DI.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/gavinstrachan/2..._is_so_imp.html


It makes interesting reading. I listened to 'Yogi' on Tuesday night after Falkirk went out of the CIS Cup. I can't BEAR laugh.gif him when they win, but Irons would do well to take a leaf out of his book. He backs his players to the hilt publicly (even when he's probably giving them pelters in the dressing room) and won't let anybody put them down.

Davie seems a bit of a Prima Donna-a showman if you like, and he's very quick to transfer blame if things haven't gone his way. He also appears extremely resistant to personal criticism, and that worries me, as it may render him slow to adapt.
mortonjag 2009-01-29 11:24:24
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 29 2009, 11:08 AM) [snapback]571265[/snapback]
I don't perceive it as arrogance.

Iain Gray is the reason for my optimism.


Nor do I Barbie-just simple ignorance! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 11:27:54
QUOTE(dazed @ Jan 29 2009, 10:29 AM) [snapback]571233[/snapback]
Tommy Sheridan a socialist???? in his dreams! although he might have slept with one! or two or three or four!


Is he not a distributionist?

Three cows and an acher-or is that different?
mortonjag 2009-01-29 11:36:43
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 29 2009, 10:40 AM) [snapback]571239[/snapback]
Your just an ole tory ain't ye.



laugh.gif Apparently when Broke Millstone passed away, he still had piles up his bum.

I DO believe in benevolent dictatorship barbie-it's about as near to keeping everybody happy as you're likely to get but a bit idealistic.

You see, the problem with the public and politics is that almost everybody-indeed probably everybody except myself-has a specific axe to grind at any given time, but few remain constant throughout their lives.

There's nothing wrong with 'man mind thyself', I suppose, if people would just be honest about it, but too many posters come on here and 'preach' about the particular version of scumbag which suits them best as though they're quoting the Holy Bible.

I HATE politicians, and I hate politics. I think big Annabel is a nice lady, but believe you me, if she was in power I'd spare her nothing! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 11:45:05
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 29 2009, 10:50 AM) [snapback]571247[/snapback]
I'd agree with that. I loved the Wee Dublin End in the 70s and 80s, a brilliant view of the pitch.

Agreed. We started in the Shed (which was quite new) but rapidly drifted to the WDE because the view was much better. Now I have to use the stand! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 11:58:39
QUOTE(Zutons @ Jan 29 2009, 11:43 AM) [snapback]571288[/snapback]
Everybody knows who Zutons is!


I know who the Zutons are too!

The reason I asked was just that you always seem to speak as though you're an insider at Cappielow. If you're not I'm sorry to have offended you.
mortonjag 2009-01-29 12:02:14 mad.gif
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 29 2009, 11:48 AM) [snapback]571292[/snapback]
Agreed.


I should imagine that it'll take longer than 8 weeks. Sure, the steel structure and cladding can be erected fairly quickly, but there's a lot more to it than that: groundworks, foundations, services, toilet and catering facilities, facilities for the disabled etc to name but a few.


Will they be moving Jimmy Cowan's boot?
mortonjag 2009-01-29 12:09:11
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 29 2009, 11:47 AM) [snapback]571291[/snapback]
I agree in the most part, I also hate, despise and distrust ALL politicians, but for me its always the lesser of the evils available, and currently as long as the unionist parties up here continue to be bullied and pander to their bosses in London my choice is narrowed somewhat.

My vision is to see this country independent, by means of an SNP government winning a referendum and then watch as new political animals develop thus leading to a decent democratic choice for our nation.

I do regard myself as a Socialist but I am not adverse to 'looking after thy self', we are not born to be subjects, each to their own, but I do agree the 'preachers' among us do tend to have massive blinkers on regarding their political beliefs, but then again its their choice to be like that.


Indeed, and the sooner Bawheid delivers that referendum the better. It has to be, after all, the people's decision, and that to a simple 'yes' or 'no' question. If the majority votes 'No' then we have to accept that as democratic.

Why is he waiting and what is he waiting for? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 12:28:29
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 29 2009, 12:17 PM) [snapback]571301[/snapback]
I am sure you know an aye or naw is never going to be accepted by the Gray man and co.


I honestly don't know what to think, except that the infighting at Holyrood should have nothing to do with giving the public a vote. If giving Bawheid many more votes is a means to an end I guess that that, in itself, wopuld be a mini referendum. Perhaps he should be going for an election. I'm afraid that my take is that he and his inexperienced riff raff have actually turned a large number AWAY from the concept of independence, and that's the main reason I can't stand him. I also suspect that he may be aware of that, and will do anything to cling onto power irrespective of what the people think or want.


mortonjag 2009-01-29 12:31:05
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jan 29 2009, 12:25 PM) [snapback]571306[/snapback]
Aye OK Mr Prescott or should that be "Two Shags" Edwards laugh.gif


Hush-you'll kindle ambition!
mortonjag 2009-01-29 13:34:04
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Jan 29 2009, 01:02 PM) [snapback]571333[/snapback]
Same way as my post cannot be classified as aggressive either old chap smile.gif


Well here's what I said in response to you!

I'm used to attacks and lies, but that takes the biscuit!

I just thought it was a bit daft of you to talk utter bollocks as though they were factual, and commented that IMHO that 'took the biscuit' young laddie! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 13:39:19
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 29 2009, 12:06 PM) [snapback]571298[/snapback]
Not even the rod I'll bet.

Indeed!
mortonjag 2009-01-29 13:42:18
QUOTE(dazed @ Jan 29 2009, 12:44 PM) [snapback]571321[/snapback]
No,Its simply confidence! wink.gif


Indeed and the intelligent have no confidence in the confidence of the simple! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 13:47:57
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Jan 29 2009, 01:38 PM) [snapback]571365[/snapback]
Not bollocks MJ, maybe I should have had not used the word 'stated' but the way you go on he would be your obvious choice. I can't be bothered arguing with you as I will probably not win as I do not have the patience to do so.


Good!
mortonjag 2009-01-29 14:21:48
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 29 2009, 01:52 PM) [snapback]571375[/snapback]
Nae big hoose and nae living to excess, not for a long time anyway. Alright Shagger? laugh.gif



Chez Edwards!

[attachment=5114:caravan.gif]
mortonjag 2009-01-29 14:44:55
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 29 2009, 02:37 PM) [snapback]571394[/snapback]
That's me alright.

How much is the Cooncil Tax p.c.m? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 15:01:53
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Jan 29 2009, 02:47 PM) [snapback]571403[/snapback]
And me... blush.gif Honestly, ask moneton!!! or mortonbug...the love I have for big dom is never ending!!


wub.gif wub.gif


He seems a very winsome young man. I find him quite handsome I have to say!
mortonjag 2009-01-29 15:04:51
QUOTE(Loveless @ Jan 29 2009, 02:43 PM) [snapback]571398[/snapback]
Very true.

I'm actually starting to think Sturgeon may be cleverer than I gave her credit for. She's an idiot, but clever if you know what I mean.

Maybe I'm reading far to much into this, but I actually think she might be played the class card a bit here. An unspoken message to the majority of SNP voters saying: "You may not have been intelligent enough to have become a doctor, but you could have probably became a nurse" - well, she's made everyone "equal" now.

Now Doctors are equally at risk of losing their jobs over disregard for cross infection policy. I think she's probably also playing on the stereotype of the arrogant hospital consultant, who think's he (or she!) is above simple handwashing, which might play into the hands of the public.

Maybe I am reading too much into it, but it's an interesting thought.


No need for Swinney to wash his hands after going for a jobby. He can't budget! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 17:11:08
QUOTE(Deego @ Jan 29 2009, 03:15 PM) [snapback]571415[/snapback]
What?

The clue is in the boldness my Dear! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 17:15:12
QUOTE(Savo @ Jan 29 2009, 03:44 PM) [snapback]571426[/snapback]
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear, as David Francey used to say laugh.gif

Crisis at Livingston


'drone'!
mortonjag 2009-01-29 17:24:42
QUOTE(Thrax @ Jan 29 2009, 03:09 PM) [snapback]571412[/snapback]
Marxist Ton has been day dreamin'
of a Shimmin and Jag tag teamin'
while he quietly tugs
near his sleeping brother puggs
So as not to wake him wi his screamin'

smile.gif


Puggs is a Limericker's dream.

There was a young piper called Puggs
Who ogled at ladies' big jugs
And lacking decorum
Was banned from this forum
For pictures of men shagging dugs thumbup2.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 17:28:05 Morton 2 St Johnstone 1 LEAFY/Spoonsy

THERE

And any arsehole who accuses the Jag of negativity can stick it where the sun don't shine. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 17:31:08
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 29 2009, 05:20 PM) [snapback]571455[/snapback]
biggrin.gif
Many a good Friday night I spent watching the pub spill out.



Thats correct.


Bloody brilliant, going to send the link to my mam, I expect tears and snotters of nostalgia.


You could get a hanky full of those valued on the Antiques Road Show.
mortonjag 2009-01-29 17:33:19 There used to be a firm of plumbers called Flanigan and Murphy who had to give up contracting in Whitecraigs because the residents kept nicking their tools.
mortonjag 2009-01-29 17:40:24
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 29 2009, 05:33 PM) [snapback]571470[/snapback]
Mimtec was a shop stewards utopia compared to that s***hole of a place.

I'm sorry but anyone who enjoys working there must have had a lobotomy.

Either that or they hee haw to remove in the first place.


>Amazon.com: My Lobotomy: Howard Dully, Charles Fleming: Books</h3> laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 17:47:05
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 29 2009, 05:43 PM) [snapback]571482[/snapback]
1-1 Spoonsy , Irons to make his first substutution in 85 minutes rolleyes.gif


...after consulting that baldy shrink? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 17:48:44
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jan 29 2009, 05:42 PM) [snapback]571480[/snapback]
Yes "Two Shags" and thanks for asking.

Are you rattling aboot your castle laugh.gif

Probably sitting on the beady.
mortonjag 2009-01-29 18:04:14
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jan 29 2009, 06:02 PM) [snapback]571489[/snapback]
laugh.gif

Looks as if he needs to get rid of his moobs... laugh.gif ph34r.gif

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDQuaintly Edwardian!
mortonjag 2009-01-29 18:06:29
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 29 2009, 06:01 PM) [snapback]571488[/snapback]
Now before I go on I tend to like DI & DC as a management team, and DI may be entirely correct but for me the following quote smacks of complete arrogance.

“I know it is hard for anyone to come in and show enough in a match like this, but I like to think I have an eye for it.

“I tend to know after about half a game whether they are good enough.


The best of the best cannot decide if anyone is good enough in 45 minutes unless the players being looked at are truly atrocious. Maybe DI is hinting at that but i'm not so sure.

Remember our very own Dom failed to impress in trials at other clubs.

Commence the argument. smile.gif

Gammy!
mortonjag 2009-01-29 18:10:37
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 29 2009, 06:07 PM) [snapback]571497[/snapback]
Is it not possible to bring back corporal punishment for anyone called Gail or Thomas Sheridan. I realise there will be some innocents caught up but at the very least it means the intended targets will not be missed. (They will not be missed in the other context either).


I feel a wee bit sorry for Gail TBH.

Just a wee bit.
mortonjag 2009-01-29 18:12:02
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 29 2009, 06:10 PM) [snapback]571501[/snapback]
what you angry about? you're the biggest clown on the board laugh.gif

jeez changed the record davie! i honestly don't recall anyone i know who was against the war supporting the saddam clan. i'm not sure where i stand regarding "taking out" dictators. ideally we could get all the c***s in one fell swoop with no civilian casualties but it's not going to happen. what really stuck in my craw about iraq was the s***e spun about it when everyone knows it was all for oil. regarding "the british left" and t-shirts - you've made your point. about 40 times. tongue.gif

btw i don't have an anti-america agenda. i think the place looks amazing and there are many good people there as bad same as everywhere else. anti-bush? oh yes.

..and don't you forget it Einstein!
mortonjag 2009-01-29 18:51:47
QUOTE(Zutons @ Jan 29 2009, 06:33 PM) [snapback]571516[/snapback]
10 pages.

...and why NOT?
mortonjag 2009-01-29 18:57:03
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 29 2009, 06:45 PM) [snapback]571524[/snapback]
Or 1 minute with Churchill.


OH YES
mortonjag 2009-01-29 18:59:09 Is an acoustic song a choon?
mortonjag 2009-01-29 19:02:24
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jan 29 2009, 06:54 PM) [snapback]571533[/snapback]
Because it will be filled with at least 8 pages of your tripe. laugh.gif laugh.gif


OK then Anus-here's the first offal statement.

I believe Irons just makes it up as he goes along and really hasn't a bloody clue about tactics and man management.

THERE!

Oh and his lips are VERY sheep like-and before you accuse me of being nasty I believe sheep have lovely lips-don't EWE?
mortonjag 2009-01-29 19:19:13
QUOTE(togib @ Jan 29 2009, 07:04 PM) [snapback]571549[/snapback]
no " a choon" is something you take to make you breathe easier

though you would have known that you being a doctor happy.gif

"a first class ticket to nottingham, please"


“A second-class return to Dottingham, please.†laugh.gif


mortonjag 2009-01-29 19:26:24
QUOTE(togib @ Jan 29 2009, 07:09 PM) [snapback]571552[/snapback]
sounds like mouton is back baaaaaaaaaa happy.gif



sadly the wee lamb got the chop!

Mouton was a clever ewe
His favourite odes were Byron's
One man he claimed has not a clue
His name is David Copperfield.
mortonjag 2009-01-29 19:30:42
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 29 2009, 06:56 PM) [snapback]571536[/snapback]
Faced with the threat of job losses, pay and pension cuts, they take to the streets en masse in protest, chiding their government for bailing out the bankers, letting the speculators get off with it and ignoring the plight of ordinary working people. We could do with some of their attitudes I think. To the barricades, C'mon!


laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

'The French' are much more diverse than 'The Scotch' Mr Edwards, as well you know! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 20:25:01
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 29 2009, 07:46 PM) [snapback]571584[/snapback]
at first i thought it was going to be flashin his erse oot the team bus or something but he's pure thought it all out! strange wee man.

You've seen it TOO! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 20:30:16 I like French Bread, and French Toast. When I was younger everybody had French Letters, and used them on French Leave. I like frogs but think toads are more manly.
mortonjag 2009-01-29 20:33:34
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 29 2009, 08:02 PM) [snapback]571593[/snapback]
Thought Salmond was superb at FMQ's today. Goldie was not bad either to give credit where it's due.

wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif

QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 29 2009, 08:09 PM) [snapback]571598[/snapback]
Rubbish. They tried to get concensus and Labour in particular were determined not to let that happen as they thought they might seize power by the back door. Any brinkmanship though came from Harvie, loving the undeserved limelight. You cannot seriously blame John Swinney who has so far been an oitstanding finance secretary - puts the performances of miscellaneous chancellors in the shade. Not a leader, Swinney, but a very competent man who outshines anyone else in the finance field in Holyrood.

Damned by faint praise! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 20:34:50
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 29 2009, 08:31 PM) [snapback]571616[/snapback]
Do you like French Kissing ?


What's that? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 20:36:01 Those Turkeys are as bad as the French!
mortonjag 2009-01-29 20:38:47 The pie stall at Palmerston is staffed very efficiently and priced reasonably. Dundee, by comparison is a total rip off and staffed by muppets.
mortonjag 2009-01-29 20:44:40
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Jan 29 2009, 08:28 PM) [snapback]571611[/snapback]
Sorry Tonsil, got to disagree. Clydebank may have been on their last legs but could still walk, while Airdrieonians couldn't. There was a manufactured process by those in power at Clydebank to get the club off their hands, especially the nonsense to rename/relocate as Dublin City.
I remember that it was discussed at Save the Ton meetings what would happen if a similar scenario occurred at Cappielow and I'm pretty sure it was 100% AGAINST putting another club out of business.
If the worst happened the fans would try and resurrect the club at junior level.
It was disgusting what was allowed to happen at Clydebank and it's good to see that my good friends from across the water are now running a very succesful club albeit at junior level.

Neither could bloody Morton before Shoogly decided to polish his ego!

The fact is that Airdrieonians have a proud history of senior football dating back to the 19th century, and that the good folks of Airdrie DO still regard the present club as part of that heritage.

Saying that takes nothing away from Clydebank FC.

I don't see your problem with this!
mortonjag 2009-01-29 20:57:36
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 29 2009, 08:47 PM) [snapback]571630[/snapback]
OOOOHHHH laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Peter's a big tease Spurtle, but if you speak nicely to him he may introduce you to Sir Cliff through his back door.
mortonjag 2009-01-29 20:59:22
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jan 29 2009, 08:52 PM) [snapback]571632[/snapback]
Perhaps, but if you bother to read the P&B thread you'll see that the poster is commonly regarded by all as extremely reliable.


Just like your goodself Anus? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 21:01:07
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 29 2009, 08:59 PM) [snapback]571643[/snapback]
laugh.gif
I walked past a sex shop in Leeds today and there was a sign above the front door which said 'discreet entrance at rear'. I kid ye not. laugh.gif


They made an arse of that!
mortonjag 2009-01-29 21:14:26
QUOTE(wanderton @ Jan 29 2009, 09:04 PM) [snapback]571651[/snapback]
Its true

unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 21:17:12
QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Jan 29 2009, 09:05 PM) [snapback]571652[/snapback]
2-1 st.johnstone

that wee dick samuel & swankie

super-kev for us

hope i'm wrong mind biggrin.gif


surely not!
mortonjag 2009-01-29 21:19:24
QUOTE(wanderton @ Jan 29 2009, 09:06 PM) [snapback]571653[/snapback]
Your a cheeky b******d


Did you mean b*****d? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 21:22:05
QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Jan 29 2009, 09:07 PM) [snapback]571654[/snapback]
how must his wife feel


She shouldn't have to I'd imagine. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 21:25:32 AH-so he has NOT signed for East Stirling. rip.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-29 21:26:58
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 29 2009, 09:24 PM) [snapback]571663[/snapback]
with her hands rolleyes.gif


With cake tongs?
mortonjag 2009-01-30 06:31:45 ....and here's the clue!!!

With his suspension due to end next month, a separate GMC panel is now deciding whether Dr Kerr's fitness to practise is still impaired. If they decide it is, the panel could decide to extend the doctor's suspension for up to 12 months, or allow him to return to work with certain conditions imposed.

It's hard to blame the guy-he either sticks to his genuine opinion and becomes an impoverished martyr for the cause or he dances to the tune of the G.M.C stuffed shirt fuds! ph34r.gif


'I promise to be good'!
mortonjag 2009-01-30 06:38:15
QUOTE(wanderton @ Jan 29 2009, 09:31 PM) [snapback]571668[/snapback]
Yes sorry bout that!! one too many * there.


That's good.

....and did you mean 'you're'?
mortonjag 2009-01-30 06:47:34 I don't know what the fuss is all about. He decided to lob a brick at a stench of Skunks-who can blame him. He has to obey the rules of the yob club.

The Sheriff's done the right thing. He also has to follow procedure blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-30 06:51:20
QUOTE(Bawhirley Road @ Jan 29 2009, 11:14 PM) [snapback]571732[/snapback]
While sitting at Palmerston last time there was a trio of seriously numpty ton fans at our back and during a lull in the proceedings one of them was heard to muse out loudly.

' You see those hooses over there (the ones which from the upper floor you can see into the ground) ...well if i lived doon here and supported this mob I'd buy one of those. You could lie in yer bed and watch the football and have a w..k at the same time.

His two favourite activities at the same time it would seem.

Robert Burns would have been proud of the imagery.

Maybe you had to be there!


Sounds the sort who doesn't give a toss about anything!
mortonjag 2009-01-30 06:56:07
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 29 2009, 10:49 PM) [snapback]571703[/snapback]
As I said on P&B:

"He's got a dreadful attitude and a stupid greetin' expression on his face half the time
.

Great player if he can be bothered, though. It'll be interesting to see if JM can get the best out of him because if he can he'll absolutely walk the Third Division."


Mirror, mirror on the wall! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-30 07:02:24
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 30 2009, 02:47 AM) [snapback]571764[/snapback]
Is he now?


First deliberate mistake spotted in last twenty! laugh.gif


Mouton was a clever ram
His favourite odes were Byron's
His bete noire was a Borders' bam
Whose name is David Copperfield.
mortonjag 2009-01-30 07:06:57
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 29 2009, 10:42 PM) [snapback]571698[/snapback]
Maybe they just couldn't cut it.


Nope-their tools were deliberately nicked. They even discovered a stash of old pipe trimmings behind the Synagogue.
mortonjag 2009-01-30 07:09:45
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 29 2009, 10:32 PM) [snapback]571690[/snapback]
My hair is really thin and fine, does anyone know of any good hair treatment products that will add volume and gloss? mad.gif


The monkey is presently working on it Baldy! You'll be the first to know when he cracks it, and the Jag will have bought that old sweetie wife out in six months!
mortonjag 2009-01-30 07:20:37
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 29 2009, 11:39 PM) [snapback]571741[/snapback]
a latino has signed for dundee
he came for a nominal fee
on a night in the toon
he humped big daphne broon
and she cried oot oh michty me!


from off the ball smile.gif


...and a Frenchman has signed for United
The Broons are all mighty excited
He trialled for Forest
And then he tried Horace
But claims he was far from delighted.
mortonjag 2009-01-30 07:25:37
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 29 2009, 10:50 PM) [snapback]571704[/snapback]
I see that Mentaljag's fantasy wumman, Nickerless Curmudgeon is on the panel. I wonder what he's doing if he's watching. Feck's sake, what a thought. laugh.gif


Question time is stage managed crap. I used to watch it years ago, but it's now more tacky than Fudgy Wudgy.

Oh and Kolhi's a complete Toly!
mortonjag 2009-01-30 08:10:24
QUOTE(wanderton @ Jan 30 2009, 07:56 AM) [snapback]571782[/snapback]
What are you my feckin english teacher? Must be great to be 100% perfect


Don't be silly. I'm only trying to be helpful. Let's face it, there are folk who might be quite upset to be called a cheeky bastard by somebody who is plainly illiterate. blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-30 09:02:12
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 30 2009, 08:43 AM) [snapback]571795[/snapback]
The Frenchman, as MJ just mentioned,
Was a dirtbag, and caused way more tension
When he back skirtled maw,
Plugged Joe and poor Paw,
Humped Granpaw and then stole his pension

Then turned his attentions to Hen
Who gleefully cried 'Come on ben'
And I'll ra ta ta ta
On your je ne sais quoi
I've always been partial to men. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-30 09:05:32
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 30 2009, 08:14 AM) [snapback]571787[/snapback]
At last a sensible and honest reply, wish the monkey a speedy discovery and let him know I look forward to the hair raising launch.

Are you bristling with excitement?
mortonjag 2009-01-30 09:08:15
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Jan 30 2009, 08:37 AM) [snapback]571793[/snapback]
A bit like this place.
Tis the fault of the web - bring out the arsehole in most folk.

There are one or two on this massage board who are worse than a rectal prolapse. blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-30 09:10:03
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 30 2009, 09:03 AM) [snapback]571800[/snapback]
Agree. It's utterly bland compared to a few years ago.

As for last night's show, while Nicola Sturgeon is very good at giving a fairly short to-the-point answer (unlike that Falconer Fattie who was given so much time to drone on and say little of substance), why is she always the SNP rep when QT comes from anywhere in Scotland? Could we not have someone with a bit more aggression to spice up the debate?

I think she's quite manly!
mortonjag 2009-01-30 09:12:03
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 30 2009, 09:09 AM) [snapback]571804[/snapback]
Not really, I'm pretty depressed about the whole thing to be honest.

I understand. It can be heart rending to be an ugly bastard until you realise than women are much more interested in other functions! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-30 09:15:06
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 30 2009, 09:04 AM) [snapback]571801[/snapback]
I must admit I also find the whole concept of hating an entire nation baffling. To hate someone based solely on their nationaility is just plain daft.

[b]Xenophobia is every bit as bad as racism IMO.[/b]

Sounds like an ideal topic for a dissertation! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-30 09:17:55
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 30 2009, 09:14 AM) [snapback]571807[/snapback]
do you do extensions? unsure.gif

I'm unfortunately inexperienced in trichology. If you're serious about the alopecia, some toupees are extremely deceptive, but don't get one from Wee Nickerless or you'll be the 'Talk o' the Toon'!
mortonjag 2009-01-30 09:33:11
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 30 2009, 09:25 AM) [snapback]571813[/snapback]
blush.gif

Different sides of the same coin Jaggy, xenophobia and racism (and bigotry for that matter) are all irrational hatreds.

I have to say the having lived in France for 5 years I find Scots hating the French even more baffling than most xenohobia because it's absolutely one-sided and not at all reciprocated by the French. Generally they have a great deal of respect and affection for us and unlike other countries they see and understand there's a clear difference between Scotland and England.

Very strange.

I've always believed that the Entente Cordiale still existed. I've only spent an extended period in one area of La Belle France.

Aguessac

I found the people extremely outgoing and homely. When the young lady in the Vigneron discovered we were Scots, she told us that her English teacher had been a Scotsman called 'Mr McKenzie', winsomely asking in broken English if we knew him!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-30 10:04:54
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Jan 30 2009, 09:55 AM) [snapback]571823[/snapback]
Game off - meant to be a big freeze this weekend. ph34r.gif

Aye right!
mortonjag 2009-01-30 10:16:36
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Jan 30 2009, 09:46 AM) [snapback]571821[/snapback]
Who is it helping exactly? Time you took the blinkers off and came into a community where the needy are not being helped.
Again I use West Dunbartonshire Council. SNP controlled.
Since conning the local electorate on the promise of saving it's local hospital which it gained power on that issue they have yet to strike a blow. The elderly have to endure a 4 hour round trip on a bus or train to obtain vital medical treatment or to visit loved one's. As one of the most impoverished area's in Scotland the unemployed also have to make that journey, try telling someone with on UB that they have to use vital housekeeping money to travel and claim it back???

Local elderly forums have closed, the council shall not fund them anymore! Middle of winter and some of our old yin's can't get out of the house to get a feed or a heat. After all they are only the people who brought us up, but to the SNP this doesnt matter, they get a heating allowance?
The elderly have also had their meals on wheels service taken from them, a home help come's in and makes that old yin their lunch........ Oh, forgot to say, thats if they can afford a home help as they now have to pay for that as well.
There you go auld yin, you've hammered your finger to the bone all your working life, but your old and no use to anybody, so yir getting bugger all in return.

Then the council tax, the stealth behind SNP's thinking on this was atrocious, as said before they needy budget for their CT. But picture the scene when the needy got a letter thru from WDC saying your in breach of your payment plan and here's another 10% on top of your yearly due's. Why did that happen? Because SNP changed the payment pattern and took it 30 days earlier than in previous years so the needy get shafted on two counts - They loss the benefit of 2 months free on their CT. And they get 10% added to their annual total. How is that helping the needy?

Council workers getting last year's pay deal taken back from them, the majority of them were women who were on the breadline as it was and SNP and snatching it back from them because the freeze on council tax.
All the freeze has done has set local authorities back years. And im sure those of us that could afford to pay the extra 5-10% would gladly do so knowing that the elderly and needy were getting it back in return.

In your earlier post you go on about those at the top of the tree and their crazy pay etc. I see SNP and their quango's are keeping this up under the pretence of Homecoming. A wee trip to Canada will do nicely. The biggest world depression in living memory is about to hit us and they think that by bring a wee drop of ex pats back home for a fortnights holiday will prop up our tourist industry?
So we got rid of Labour back then and took the Tory on board. The rest is history, a party that flattened Britain North of Watford, there is no doubt Scotland came off much worse than anyone under Thatcher and the same thing is going to happen with Cameron. But then again history is repeating itself with this. The Tartan Tories
Cameron reckons we get to much money via Barnetts handouts as it is and he has made it clear we'll have to fall in line with the rest of the UK.
Deja vu.
There is no argument.........
To keep services ticking over until this new tax comes into pay then increasing the CT is the only logical thing to do.
A tenner in our pocket 2 years ago was worth more than a tenner today. By capping the CT all SNP did was win cheap votes from people who thought they would be better off for the sake of a couple of hunder quid a year. But at the back end their local services were floundering because they have no money to maintain those services.
Swinney can only work with the hand he's dealt. Thats what we have to work with so why think otherwise. We could all live our lives wishing we had more. But we DO expect him to get his figures right and not speculate like a spiv.
The very minute he came into office his figures were shown to be flawed. And because of his mismanagement the rest of us are suffering. I harp back to the Police issue, 1000 new officers was the claim, but they wanted to put 500 new one's on the beat and fill the rest in with plastic polis like Central Region are doing. Traffic wardens taking crime reports????
Goldie gave Swinney short shrift and he had to back track and go for the 1000 new cops ( which will never happen before this 1st term is finished ) and what got hit??? The NHS, Roads and prisons and we've been playing catch up since.
The whole of the country is telling him his figures are not adding up but he'll take the word of a report laugh.gif laugh.gif

Swinney, the same guy when in charge of the SNP had two disasters in the 2001 and 2003 elections and got horsed oot due to poor performance, the country would take Broon before him! Usual SNP party politics come into play, gee John a job to shut him up.

You wouldn't trust the guy with Monopoly money.


You can quote facts and figures till you're blue in the face, and Bawheid's sycophantic Procrusteans will simply trot out propaganda in return-PAGES of it!! ph34r.gif .

You mention the Police. Mr Bam has touched on Education, and I see what's REALLY happening in the NHS.

I wish those myopic Anglophobes could stand back and look at the bigger picture.

How in God's name was a shower of inexperienced political kids going to just step up and get it right first time? The last lot were utter keech, but at least they were experienced keech.

Bawheid's bairns were an accident waiting to happen! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-30 10:22:08
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Jan 30 2009, 10:10 AM) [snapback]571825[/snapback]
*Note to self - never trust the weather forecasts you see on TV*

I thought you were just kidding. I DO hope you're wrong and not the meteorologists at the Beeb. The five day forecasts are not that great!
mortonjag 2009-01-30 10:52:30
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 30 2009, 10:24 AM) [snapback]571830[/snapback]
I would call them more corrupt version of keech. If the puppets get back at Holyrood we are all doomed.........again. sad.gif

I don't want them back Barbie-I want the SNP to get themselves sorted and stop treating the electorate as if they are facile clowns.

I obviously cite the NHS which I understand and with which I still have close contacts. Everything there which seems to have got better and which in most cases has not, has been introduced purely for political expediency and frequently against professional advice. If that's not corrupt, what is?
mortonjag 2009-01-30 11:31:17
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Jan 30 2009, 11:06 AM) [snapback]571848[/snapback]
There's a big freeze coming over from Russia, won't hit till Sunday though!

http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/article.aspx?cp-...;icid=ukhotmail

So it wont be rushin'?
mortonjag 2009-01-30 12:54:51
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 30 2009, 12:27 PM) [snapback]571878[/snapback]
Sorted it for you chrissiboi. smile.gif

The GMC have clearly treated this as a test case. I know the GP concerned-he's a genuine and decent guy who has not changed his views in the slightest. Either he set himself up as a 'Joan of Arc' to be destroyed without mercy or opted for self preservation.

It's an indictment of the GMC (and similar ruling bodies) that they are willing to ruin a caring and conscientious G.P. for the sake of a 'principle', when they could easily have made an exception without shifting ground! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-30 12:58:55
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jan 30 2009, 12:42 PM) [snapback]571888[/snapback]

FIngers and toes crossed! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-30 13:06:45
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 30 2009, 12:47 PM) [snapback]571893[/snapback]
Activity at f*cking last!

I also heard we're signing John Sutton.

Harding's Hamstring to Greacen's Genitals to Fabian's fibulae! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-30 14:10:41
QUOTE(Thrax @ Jan 30 2009, 01:54 PM) [snapback]571930[/snapback]
Shocking

sad.gif thats bloody tragic.

And all because the other bloke had a knife. When will the message finally sink in! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-30 14:15:38
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Jan 30 2009, 01:47 PM) [snapback]571928[/snapback]
I have asked "born again christians" that I have worked with the same questions as above, and have had various replies...

I don't actually think they are united on thought with this one, there answers vary from church to church because there isn't one.

they just make it up as they go along it would appear

What were they?

I suppose it depends on the definition of a 'born again christian'.

There is no doubt whatsoever that mainstream evangelical groups DO believe that only those who are 'born again' will ever go to heaven. Absolutely all others of all creeds and classes are excluded.
mortonjag 2009-01-30 14:21:10
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Jan 30 2009, 02:11 PM) [snapback]571942[/snapback]
Can't believe people are defending this thug, good riddance.

Edited due to toast crumbs in keyboard.

Try a toaster-it's much quicker!
mortonjag 2009-01-30 14:47:42
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 30 2009, 02:36 PM) [snapback]571951[/snapback]
Can we not be a bit more like the French? When something happens that we don't like, we just grumble a bit, but could we not follow their example? Riot, set fire to a few things, blockade roads, use the guillotine on the royal family? wink.gif

Oh c'mon you shouldn't get your heads chopped off for sticking Millions Logos on football strips! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-30 14:51:12
QUOTE(Muz @ Jan 30 2009, 02:47 PM) [snapback]571956[/snapback]
It's not anything to do with Morton. Then again neither are a lot of the comments on this thread, so thanks for singling mine out dry.gif

Just saying when it mentions that he was also up for another offence including hard drugs, then it tends (although whether or not it should or shouldn't is another matter) to influence people's opinions. I know it was dismissed, just saying that it doesnt show the guy (who may be brand new) in an unfavourable light.

My own opinion is that he's been a silly boy, and is now paying the penalty, which could have been a LOT worse, not just for him.

Exactly. If the brick had hit somebody on the head and killed him-it's happened more than once. EVERYBODY on here would be condemning him!

Why is the idiot getting publicity here anyway?
mortonjag 2009-01-30 17:20:44
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Jan 30 2009, 03:48 PM) [snapback]571986[/snapback]
He obviously doesn't thinkso if he's off to join McInally at ES. unsure.gif

Most over rated player in a long time (and that's including Jim McAlister and Alan Jenkins rolleyes.gif ),
despite showing he doesn't have it in him.

You appear to have an unnatural distaste for Stevenson!
mortonjag 2009-01-30 17:23:38
QUOTE(Savo @ Jan 30 2009, 03:44 PM) [snapback]571982[/snapback]
Cappielow was the venue this morning for a meeting with politicians and Scottish Water about the recent flooding in Inverclyde, which the club suffered from.

Shoogly, Scottish Water, and politicians in a get together that makes the three witches in MacBeth look like angels of mercy! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-30 19:04:17 If we're going to have a separate forum for debate and politics, I predict that it will just end up as a free for all rammy, unless it's very strictly moderated, and strict moderation ain't very popular.
mortonjag 2009-01-30 19:23:44
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jan 30 2009, 05:19 PM) [snapback]572023[/snapback]
blink.gif Or what Jamie's 'spitting the dummy out of the pram' attitude did to himself perhaps?

...and of course Anus there's always the possibility-nay-probability that both factors played a part.

It's a laugh and a half that folk come on here and presume to second guess the reasons for players' bad form.

It's even more ridiculous when cowards start to verbally abuse them in a totally indiscriminate fashion-and I'm NOT just talking about Jamie Stevenson.

We have a shower of fickle numbskulls on this massage board.

FACTS:

Stevenson is a very talented player.

Stevenson's form only dropped AFTER he left Alloa.

Stevenson was regularly messed about by JM in favour of the then overrated and hugely inconsistent McGowan.

Stevenson is only one of several players who mysteriously failed to fulfil promise at Cappielow.

Stevenson was frozen out by Irons without a chance to redeem himself.


etc.

I believe the boy has made the correct decision. He'll start to hit the headlines again with Shire.

Oh-I forgot-that's only the piffling shitey 3rd league, full of no hopers and over the hill crocks.

Correct, and it ain't that long since we were there and thought we were the fucking bees' knees! ph34r.gif

mortonjag 2009-01-30 19:29:45
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 30 2009, 05:46 PM) [snapback]572042[/snapback]
Hopefully we didn't TAP them and have watertight deals for them in the pipeline.......

........but I'm kinda hot & cold about it overall.......
Tanks a lot!

Irons told them that for an acceptable bung he'd sell them a big brown stopper for a half million, then had the cheek to put in a plug for Jimbo at £250,000, claiming he can dribble through concrete.
mortonjag 2009-01-30 19:35:15
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 30 2009, 06:46 PM) [snapback]572065[/snapback]
Last week Stevenson was tipped by some for a start and now hes at the Shire ,hope this wakes the guy up to where his heading.

It would be great if we do get Yantorno if he can show the same level of performance like when at Cappielow.

..and if he didn't after two matches he'd be a shitebag, bottler, arsehole etc.

Remember the posts after Grady's first match. You'd have thought we'd just signed GOD almighty in a Ton strip.

It wouldn't be hard to trawl out the posts and contrast them with some of the rubbish that's been talked about him lately. mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-30 19:40:27
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Jan 30 2009, 07:31 PM) [snapback]572089[/snapback]
Agree with most of that, but two points I need to clear up.

1) Stevenson and McGowan are different players. Stevenson was someone who I always thought was a lot more central, where McGowan's use is more attacking.



2) By the time Irons got there, he was a lost cause at the club. I don't really think there is much Irons could have done.



1) Believe it or not, Jamie (on form ) and Gowsa are actually VERY similar in style-neither is a striker, both are two footed with excellent close control and like to run at defences from deep-in fact Jamie, (on form), is a more attack minded player than Gowsa, who is more of a play maker.

2) If you believe in lost causes-Aye. If you believe Scott McLaughlin (who-lets not forget WAS an excellent servant to our club)-it was maybe a wee bit different!
mortonjag 2009-01-30 19:57:42
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Jan 30 2009, 06:44 PM) [snapback]572062[/snapback]
A Christian who terms themselves as 'born again' may believe that only those who are born again go to heaven, or they may believe that all go to heaven, or that all Christian go to heaven. The term doesn't necessarily imply much in that respect. At its simplest they are simply showing that they are changed people because they are Christian.

Although, the group who get the most media attention (perhaps because they are the loudest, or craziest) - the evangelicals - on the whole believe that only they will go to heaven.

I'm not sure the vast majority of (protestant) Christians wouldn't describe themselves as born again.

I'm 100% rock solid guaranteed indisputably dead certain that the majority of (protestant) Christians would be horrified if you described them as 'Born Again Christians'! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Jan 30 2009, 07:18 PM) [snapback]572081[/snapback]
Oh, sorry, didn't realise that you had met them all rolleyes.gif

Seriously, I've known many, and they don't all believe this. I can ask 3 right now if you want, but I know none of them believe that only born again Christians go to heaven.

Many born again Christians do believe this, the strongest tend to be evangelicals, but they could also be Church of Scotland, or Pentecostal, or Baptist. On the other hand, I've known people from all of those denominations, and more, who would say they are 'born again' but do not believe that only born again Christians go to heaven, or that they even believe in hell as it is commonly described.

Although, I wouldn't be surprised if most of those who always introduce themselves as born again Christian, almost as an extension of their name, believe that only born again Christians go to heaven.


No need to be cheeky-Trick is spot on-and a wee point of correction too-the Church of Scotland does not encourage acts of 're-birth' (giving one's heart to the 'Lord'), whereas the Pentecostals and Baptists are invariably evangelical in Scotland.

By the way, none of my information has come from books. I was brought up in the Baptist Church, one of my brothers was a Baptist Minister, and a Brother in Law, and Father in Law are/were Church of Scotland ministers.
Not that mortonjag should need to explain as his facts are invariably correct! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-30 20:41:52
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jan 30 2009, 07:46 PM) [snapback]572096[/snapback]
What shall we do with the grumpy pirate?
What shall we do with the grumpy pirate?
What shall we do with the grumpy pirate?
Early in the morning

Hooray and up she rises
Hooray and up she rises
Hooray and up she rises
Early in the morning

Do a little jig and make him smile
Do a little jig and make him smile
Do a little jig and make him smile
Early in the morning
Do a little jig & make him smile ?? laugh.gif
Surely a grumpy pirate would have you walking the plank for jiggin and trying to make him smile.

It's all pathetic pc pish !

Why should a sailor be assumed to be male while his boat is deemed a woman. If they're going to be so Po they should get it right! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-30 20:47:37
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Jan 30 2009, 07:44 PM) [snapback]572095[/snapback]
Just because you write 'FACTS:' before your opinions they are not magically turned into facts. Here to help smile.gif

They are facts! laugh.gif

QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jan 30 2009, 07:56 PM) [snapback]572098[/snapback]
Agree with all your OPINIONS happy.gif except the highlighted one. I have my doubts we'd even have won the league were it not for Gowser. Even when he had a lull in form he was still our main man.

I believe that to be a myth-when he was good, he was very, very good, and when he was bad he was a waste of space who flattered to deceive!

QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Jan 30 2009, 07:56 PM) [snapback]572099[/snapback]
Scott McLaughlin was very good for us in the second division. Unlike Stevenson, HIS drop in form came not when he came to us, but when we moved up a division. In other words, he was exposed.

Stevenson came to us and was all of a sudden not very good. I don't think this was a coincidence.

Nonsense-he's been doing quite nicely for Erdry.

QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 30 2009, 07:57 PM) [snapback]572100[/snapback]
Let me try.

FACT: Mortonjag is a t***.

Did it work? unsure.gif


Nope!

here-I'll try-

ThornTON is a twat! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-30 20:51:09
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 30 2009, 07:55 PM) [snapback]572097[/snapback]
Grady's been rubbish lately. Whatever do you mean, old jag?

I was merely alluding to the fickleness of those who saw him as God Almighty, my boy, yet are happy to see him berated just because his form has dropped (while he's been carrying a knock).

Grady has been immense for us-largely because of what he's brought to the dressing room. Sheep lips would have gone long since without Grady.
mortonjag 2009-01-30 20:54:21
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 30 2009, 08:50 PM) [snapback]572111[/snapback]
yet another absolute non-story to get the spade a spade brigade frothing at the mouth.
that's not bad actually - the spade a spade brigade vs the pc brigade.

i'll be on the fence as ever

Trick will be after you! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-30 20:59:07
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 30 2009, 08:55 PM) [snapback]572117[/snapback]
Haven't been there to see that for myself doc but aside from a tidy finish to keep Irons in a job (worthy of condemnation in itself, no?) and showing the team that they CAN win games he seems to have contributed very little on the pitch, carrying a 'knock' or not.

I'm not bothered either way, I'm sure you're not including me in the 'fickle ones' anyway. smile.gif

Wood eye?

Trouble is that we're limited to Irons 'punt and hunt' tactics which doesn't suit the wee man best. If we had one decent wide player he'd be a far better partner for Spoonsy than Wakey is.

...which brings me to the point.


LEAFY MUST get a start tomorrow!
mortonjag 2009-01-30 21:04:56
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 30 2009, 08:56 PM) [snapback]572119[/snapback]
i do! it was footage from the 1930's or something
what is it with proddies and mary? how can you believe some parts of a fairy story but not others?

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I'm not quite sure what the problem is. They do accept the virgin birth but seem to resent Mary being elevated to a quasi divine status. They also reject the notion of trans-substantiation on the grounds that Jesus blood and body would be used up pretty damned quickly-totally ignoring the fact that it's a magic trick! Oh-and they reject Papal infallibility which seems pretty sensible if you ask me. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-30 21:11:40
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 30 2009, 09:00 PM) [snapback]572121[/snapback]
I find that rather dispiriting. Let's support them because they're shafting us a wee bit less than the other lot...

I suppose you could consider it as being between a rock and a hard place. However the advent of Mrs Thatcher was down to England voting her in. Oh, and even if the SNP had agreed to support a morally bankrupt Labour regime that had lost any authority, it was just a matter of time before Labour got booted out.

As for Scotsguy's take on the CT etc etc, I just simply disagree with most of your posting. Answer me this: would you rather have a Labour administration at Holyrood at the moment? Only advantage of that would be that they wouldn't have to put up with the constant attempts to squeeze funding that the SNP government does.

I say the SNP should push harder for independence - we know they are capable of governing ubder difficult circumstances even if not everyone likes them, so I say let's start moving to independence and raise the debate a bit. after that, we can decide who is best to govern an independent Scotland.


You seem to chop and change your tactics as often as the bloody SNP!

Labour are the incarnation of keech. Bawheid's lot do their best but haven't a bloody clue, yet you constantly paint them as though they have scaled previously unattainable heights.

As a means to an end, I could accept the embarrassment that is the curent SNP government, if it wasn't for the sickeningly xenophobic hype which appears to be mandatory for the faithful.
mortonjag 2009-01-30 21:32:22
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 30 2009, 09:14 PM) [snapback]572126[/snapback]
Can you give me examples of the "xenophobic hype" MJ ?

Do you have a mirror in your handbag sweetie? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-30 22:13:51
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Jan 30 2009, 10:07 PM) [snapback]572134[/snapback]
I said that I wasn't sure that the vast majority of protestant Christians wouldn't term themselves as born again. If you look at the recent spread of Christianity across the world there is very often a link to 'born again Christianity' so to speak. And this is also true in Scotland, where the growth of the pentecostal and evangelical branches of Christianity is arguably the strongest amongst all denominations.

Even the Church of Scotland has a range of beliefs in its members and ministers. I've known CoS ministers who describe themselves as born again and evangelical. It's uncommon, but it happens. There are many Baptists who are not evangelical.

I'm not sure I need to tell you my credentials for writing any of this, but it's not from books.

The Baptist Church in Scotland is evangelical. I took it that your claims were referable to Scotland, and that's the only area where I profess to be informed on this issue.

The Church of Scotland is not evangelical.

Obviously there will be exceptions to any rule. blush.gif

Anyway-back to the original question.

Born again Christians by definition believe that being 'born again' is the only way into heaven,
mortonjag 2009-01-30 22:15:12
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 30 2009, 09:54 PM) [snapback]572130[/snapback]
Ok, can you give me examples of MY "xenophobic hype" ?

Nope-'cos I'm about to go to bed with the Monkey! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-31 07:20:03 Here's the update.


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It's very clear that the GMC is stuck in a time warp. Margo McDonald is spot on when she suggests that this is an issue the public should be debating. Nobody knows that he'll never be in a situation where struggling on is unacceptable.

I'm slightly surprised that few here seem interested.


mortonjag 2009-01-31 08:01:15
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 31 2009, 12:53 AM) [snapback]572168[/snapback]
I find that statement astonishing.

I certainly don't think McGowan was overrated. It was absolutely obvious he was a quality player playing at a level well below what he was capable of. You only have to look at some of the goals he scored and created to realise that.

In what way was Stevenson messed about?

Here are a few actual facts wink.gif :

1) Paul McGowan is on loan from Celtic to Hamilton Accies - another SPL team.
2) Jamie Stevenson is on loan from Morton to East Stirling - a third division team.
3) In the first half of the season Paul McGowan made an appearance in the Champions League
4) In the first half of the season Jamie Stevenson was on loan at Alloa Athletic.
Agreed.


Another fact. We have moved on. It's near enough two years since McGowan last graced the hallowed Scapa turf.

Paul McGowan WAS overrated-maybe not by you, certainly not by me, but UNDOUBTEDLY by the daft old Fud who was willing to go for broke for unfulfilled potential.

It's quite clear to me at least that in his 22nd year, the boy still has not fully matured-witness his farming out by Cellic to SPL strugglers Hamilton. A good young player-yes. How much more? Only time will tell.

As I stated correctly-the majority overrated him. He regularly showed naievety-especially in the box, despite being blindly touted as a 'striker' at a time when most folk accepted the fact laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif that Spoonsy's best position was right back!!! Gowsa was NEVER a striker-FACT! wub.gif

In at least half the games he played for us, he either failed to shine, or went completely off the boil. I can't count the number of times he was hooked early by JM.

Please don't think I'm trying to belittle his ability. There were several times when Gowsa lit up an otherwise drab encounter with a touch of pure class-indeed his very entertainment value blinded many to his ultimately limited effectiveness. In fairness, that was in some measure caused by a lack of suitable partners up front.

At that time, in the second division, I believe Jamie Stevenson on form-something which has rarely been seen since his Alloa days- would/could frequently have been more effective than McGowan.


I now wait the usual diatribes from those who haven't a bloody clue! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-31 08:07:49
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jan 31 2009, 01:37 AM) [snapback]572177[/snapback]
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You have to admit though, he has a point.

There are some Morton supporters who are so backwards that they think "Roll and Slice" is haute cuisine and West Blackhall Street is the epicentre of the universe.

When in fact it's the old Torpedo Factory! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-31 08:18:23
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 31 2009, 12:50 AM) [snapback]572167[/snapback]
I swear I'm sick saying this as well. Spot on Davie.

Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do, Shakedown, it's 1979.

When will we EVER learn ?

The SNP was always a left of centre socialist party. History shows that the last time we deviated from that we spent thirty years in the wilderness. Why do we insist on treading the same path yet again. Did we learn nothing. Our country is ours for the taking if we had a leader capable of seizing the opportunity. But we don't so we won't. We'll suck hind tit to the Tories again, and you can predict the rest.

"Oh where are you now when we need you, when once there a flame used to be,
Are ye gone like the snows of last winter, and still only our rivers run free"

TonInDublin



I fervently believe that to be correct.

Bawheid and Shoogly are similar-they got us so far, but both are now hampering progress with their maudlin showboating .

I'd have the Fudmeister before Bawheid any day.

At least his heart's in the right place! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-31 08:50:52
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Jan 30 2009, 10:07 PM) [snapback]572134[/snapback]
I said that I wasn't sure that the vast majority of protestant Christians wouldn't term themselves as born again. If you look at the recent spread of Christianity across the world there is very often a link to 'born again Christianity' so to speak. And this is also true in Scotland, where the growth of the pentecostal and evangelical branches of Christianity is arguably the strongest amongst all denominations.

Even the Church of Scotland has a range of beliefs in its members and ministers. I've known CoS ministers who describe themselves as born again and evangelical. It's uncommon, but it happens. There are many Baptists who are not evangelical.

I'm not sure I need to tell you my credentials for writing any of this, but it's not from books.


I'd love to inspect your credentials! laugh.gif


Sorry to be pedantic, and I don't care if you're The Rev Dave (Ratus Rex Magnus will get you) or the Bishop of Feegie-here's what we're talking about.


The whole concept of a 'born again Christian' focuses on the belief that we were 'born in sin and shapen in iniquity', and that without some kind of redemption we cannot achieve eternal life in heaven.

The term refers SPECIFICALLY to this passage of scripture from John's gospel.


Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

Far from being in any way an airy fairy concept, 'born again' Christians reach a point in their lives where they make a once and for all specific commitment to follow the teachings of Jesus, and to accept him 'into their hearts' as the guiding influence for the remainder of their lives. That goes hand in hand with a confession of sin and an acceptance that the only way to eternal life is the active renunciation of previous habits and the adoption of Christian beliefs and values.

That is quite different from any of the religious ceremonies performed in the mainstream Christian Churches-it's an entirely personal thing-undocumented-but very real to the believer. In some evangelical denominations this act of 'being converted' is affirmed ceremonially. The Baptists practice 'total immersion' in the same manner in which Jesus blessed his followers.

Here's a definition of 'evangelical'.


Adjective

1. Relating to or being a Christian church believing in personal conversion and the inerrancy of the Bible especially the 4 Gospels;


So you see, evangelism and 'born again Christianity' go together like a horse and carriage.

I understand that in modern times there are clerics of all sorts who like to change the rules of the game.

What I have presented above, however, is an accurate explanation of the term 'Born Again Christian', and it goes without saying that they believe all others remain damned! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-31 09:10:03
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 31 2009, 08:36 AM) [snapback]572190[/snapback]
Sorry to dissapoint some of you, but Salmond remains the most popular leader according to EVERY opinion poll published.
You seem to be part of the very small minority in your opinions on Salmond MJ.

Salmond continues to run rings round his opponents at Holyrood. Just check the last FMQ's on Thursday for the perfect example of that.
Many believe he will lead us to a YES vote in a referendum, and going by his record so far, I firmly believe that will happen.
And purporting untruths like "sickeningly xenophobic hype" won't deminish the resolve of the nationalist movement.

Spurtle-I am regularly sickened by hype about the current government, and I'm regularly sickened by the anti-English attitude which is alive and kicking in the SNP and its supporters.

It seems to have gone right over the top of your head that Bawheid's current 'popularity' is in no small measure a function of the very hype and xenophobia which I find emetic.

Don't forget that a week is a long time in politics! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-31 09:12:03
QUOTE(togib @ Jan 31 2009, 08:38 AM) [snapback]572192[/snapback]
did joan of arc take all her animals on board as well happy.gif

Don't be disgusting-would YOU shag a crocodile?
mortonjag 2009-01-31 10:36:12
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 31 2009, 10:01 AM) [snapback]572200[/snapback]
Oh I can't think of any irrational, childish anti-English sentiment on here.
Give me five minutes and I'll ask the Hewitt Boy if he can think of any ..... I'll get back to you.

TonInDublin

I'll bet you a Scottish tenner you will! laugh.gif

That'll be a fraction of what Spurtle spent that day he went to celebrate the Anniversary of Bannockburn. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-31 11:06:29
QUOTE(togib @ Jan 31 2009, 10:46 AM) [snapback]572206[/snapback]
lol

sorry for going off on another tangerine

Going off on tangerines only annoys those who are already half bananas.

Anyway-what do you think of youth in Asia?
mortonjag 2009-01-31 11:32:54
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 31 2009, 11:19 AM) [snapback]572215[/snapback]
It's very wrong to say I went to Bannockburn to "celebrate" I went there to "commemorate" It's officially known as the "Bannockburn Commemoration"

If you can find that particular post from here that's says any different I'll donate a "Scottish tenner" to any charity you desire.
So wrong again MJ. Any more examples anti-Englishness you here or see on a "regular" basis ?

Spurtle, occasionally-only occasionally mind-your attempts to defend the indefensible are cringeworthy.

Or to put it differently-WHY were you COMMEMORATING the day we humped the English? Why is it memorable when it happened hunners of years ago, and we've been happily British for several of those?

I'll tell you why-it's a chance for a shower of xenophobic loonballs to revel in drunken Anglophobia.

Of course I appreciate that in your case it's different, and that your great great Uncle Farquar (to the power ten) sacrificed his life while attempting to assist a mortally wounded English soldier.

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mortonjag 2009-01-31 11:36:36
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Jan 31 2009, 11:23 AM) [snapback]572220[/snapback]
Why, are you aware of the circumstances surrounding his departure ??

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Indeed-one might be tempted to use the term 'Numpty' elsewhere!
mortonjag 2009-01-31 11:38:50
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 31 2009, 11:30 AM) [snapback]572223[/snapback]
Within the EU British people also take jobs abroad, I'm one of them. smile.gif It's not a one-way street as you seem to think. It's called freedom of labour movement and is a fundamental right of all EU citizens.

If you're against that and say only UK citizens can work in the UK then fair enough, but it would mean leaving the EU. And protectionist polices are invariably counter-productive as it limits free trade and will in the long term cause even more unemployment. 'British jobs for British people' is an extremely simplistic view, IMO.

You don't understand. The British guys were willing to do the same job more efficiently for a lower wage! wink.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-31 11:57:59
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 31 2009, 11:49 AM) [snapback]572235[/snapback]
Amongst others, the English commemorate their fallen by laying a wreath. Just like the Scots nationalists do

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mortonjag 2009-01-31 12:01:18
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jan 31 2009, 11:50 AM) [snapback]572237[/snapback]
Isn't that what they said about Shipman and Crippen... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

No it wasn't .

Not like you to get something wrong.

They shoot donkeys-don't they? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-31 12:15:15 I'm going to digress slightly. We had a long running debate about foreign doctors a while back-coming over here to do weekend deputising shifts and then buggering off back home. I made the point that they were happy to do the job (less efficiently for reasons of training, culture, and language) for a rate which most home grown medics felt was insufficient, and that that seemed a bit daft in terms of health care.

Needless to say I was shouted down by our resident intelligentsia!

I believe there should be freedom of labour within the E.U. I don't approve entirely of 'Europe' but we're in it. It should, however, be on a 'like for like' basis.

In this current instance, are the foreigners doing the job just as well for a lower rate. If that is the case who can complain?
mortonjag 2009-01-31 12:25:39
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jan 31 2009, 12:15 PM) [snapback]572258[/snapback]
Thank you for the clarification Oh great Jaggy one...and of course you are correct in your normative assetion that it is not like me to get something wrong. (In this case I was trying to establish what the closed shop of the GMC actually said in those two cases hence the questioning tone and not a statement of fact..) I also beleive that they shoot donkeys but have no empirical evidence to back this notion up...

Keep up the good work.

Indeed!

I shouldn't be too hard on a dumb animal! ph34r.gif

I'd imagine that most folk understand that the GMC had no need to give those two a rap over the knuckles.

What is your opinion on Youth in Asia?
mortonjag 2009-01-31 12:38:01
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jan 31 2009, 12:27 PM) [snapback]572268[/snapback]
which is the point money could be better used to improve our team

Correct and Newby would have been a useful squad member if it hadn't been for a certain 'numpty'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-31 21:16:55
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Jan 31 2009, 06:39 PM) [snapback]572386[/snapback]
They were looking for penalties every time the ball entered the box in the 2nd half. One was a blatant dive which the piss poor referee didn't penalise.

The penalty claim which the linesman then informed the ref should be a free kick, was also an attempt at cheating and the referee was conned - thankfully the linesman (who was otherwise useless btw) saw it was at least outside the box.

I despise Craig Thomson after his volte face at Hamilton, and I'd love to see him 'put down'.

Despite that, I thought he had a good game today! Once again it was pleasant not to have to suffer one of the self obsessed wee fannies we get 90% of the time.
mortonjag 2009-01-31 21:54:37 I thought Main hadn't made a single save but on the way home my partner pointed out that he had one from Alex Walker-a guy who's proved yet again today that he CAN play football, and is light years ahead of David McGregor even if neither is a full back. Of course Davie's a Shoogly darling.

As somebody else commented, it's funny how the fudmeister fucks off for the day, and his useless wee pet gets hooked with his bloody lip tripping him. Sorry Jimbo-you were pure unadulterated keech AGAIN. If LEAFY had been brought on to replace you last week at the same point, we'd DEFINITELY have won-Russell showed urgency (and an ability to use the left wing) and put their defence under some genuine pressure. It's a travesty that he's been blanked for so long to suit sheep lips' spoiling tactics. I didn't think there were any real stand outs today-Superkev was back to his frustrating stuff-he was good in parts, but his abysmal attempt at a cross- to fizzle out our best passing move of the game merely highlighted the fact that the Windmill has put together one of the most boring sides in Cappielow history.

We had only two or three set pieces in the whole 90 minutes including corners-a day when Masty could and should have been subbed with Jenks after 60 minutes maximum, but tactical turnip hates Alan's guts! ph34r.gif

Credit to Spoonsy BTW-he kept going all day and his fitness is clearly vastly improved-just a pity he and Wakey don't really gel.

What else?

Oh aye- I persuaded my partner to go as I had a spare season ticket. I told her it would be a really exciting game as the Saints are 'top' and play nice football, and I secretly thought we might just come good today.

She sat with her headphones on listening to the Rangers game and pretending to be interested, though she did ask who the 'black' boy was, saying he looked 'classy'. I think she was talking about his football!

We rode our luck. No way did we deserve a point for yet another of Irons' tragic productions.
mortonjag 2009-01-31 22:16:38
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 31 2009, 01:26 PM) [snapback]572295[/snapback]
No you are STILL wrong. It commemorates the fallen of both countries. Both nations lay wreaths side by side and are respected by ALL who attend.
So anymore anti-English examples that you hear on a "regular" basis ? rolleyes.gif

Spurtle-tonight I'm too tired. When you talk about football you're a good chap, but sometimes your myopic and pachydermatous propaganda is an embarrassment to your own intelligence.

If you REALLY want me to trawl through your repetitive xenophobic rantings, I'll put together a little piece that will prove-if ever proof were required-that Sir Cliff turned you down in the Central Station bog thirty years ago, and for that the English have never been forgiven. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-31 22:20:18
QUOTE(El Duderino @ Jan 31 2009, 09:36 PM) [snapback]572457[/snapback]
Euthanasia has been eternally debated as far as I have been aware, and Lord Joffe etc have been at it for what seems like and age to put forward assisted dying bills.

Public comment and debate is, and has always been forthcoming?!?

It doesn't detract from the facts that this doctor acted outwith currently accepted protocol, and indeed is surely quite forunate not to be facing criminal charges??

I suppose you could argue that-which shows WHY the GMC should not be burying its head in the sand.
mortonjag 2009-01-31 22:28:43


QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 31 2009, 09:56 PM) [snapback]572464[/snapback]
I'm implying that the upper middle class regard the working class with disdain.

I thought that was obvious. dry.gif

You're twenty five years behind the times Mr Bam.

If you can produce for me an acceptable definition of your various 'classes' relevant to 2009 in the Scottish central belt, I shall forward an autographed photie of Shoogly beating the slaves in his Fort Matilda Sweatshop.
mortonjag 2009-01-31 22:59:48
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 31 2009, 10:50 PM) [snapback]572477[/snapback]
John Baird: Montrose > Airdrie Utd.

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mortonjag 2009-01-31 23:11:06 Latest club news
Morton 0 St Johnstone 0

Morton pick up another point following todays draw at Cappielow. ..More



and there wasn't any more, except the score and team lists.

Perspective is a funny thing-eh?

Morton drop another two points following today's draw at Cappielow-our next encounter (the Bully Wee at Broadwood) should be interesting.

Is it too cynical to suggest that Mr Irons will be hoping yet again to pick up a precious point? Every time we seem on the brink of moving up the table we slip back again-BECAUSE of sheep lips' negativity. Having said that, if the Fudmeister REALLY wanted him to get a couple of decent attackers in the next day or so, I guess he'd have splashed the cash-which kinds begs the question? dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-31 23:14:38
QUOTE(para @ Jan 31 2009, 11:12 PM) [snapback]572487[/snapback]
andb your point is

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mortonjag 2009-01-31 23:49:37
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 31 2009, 11:14 PM) [snapback]572488[/snapback]
There's a report on the Saints website if you want it... a mistake though, disappointed in you Ernie! sad.gif

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It was edited before I saw your post! laugh.gif laugh.gif

Anyway, I guess you see the point I'm making. If we're really 'up for it' as Mr. Rae always appears to want us to be, and I DID bring a friend today, we should surely be hoping at least to win our home matches. That's what my friend would have preferred, and she certainly will be thinking twice before visiting Cappielow again this season! crying.gif
mortonjag 2009-01-31 23:55:06
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 31 2009, 11:27 PM) [snapback]572494[/snapback]
People say many things, f*** knows whether they mean it or not. I'll say this though: f*** the BNP. laugh.gif

Sorry to butt into the cosy little tete a tete gents! Mr Edwards-do you think there are any members of the B.N.P. who are entitled to their views and to their free expression?
mortonjag 2009-02-01 00:18:49
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 1 2009, 12:02 AM) [snapback]572501[/snapback]
It's not a cosy tete-a-tete Jaggy, all are welcome to join. smile.gif

I see we're back to the the old freedom of speech debate.

Of course with the right of freedom of speech comes also responsibility.

Personally I'd say that of course BNP supporters are entitled to express their opinions as long as it doesn't condone racism and/or xenophobia.

But you'd really have to direct that question to the mods and not fellow board members.

HA-my experiences suggest that the Mods are the least capable of addressing any issue with freedom of thought and expression!

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 1 2009, 12:05 AM) [snapback]572504[/snapback]
It won't. Globalised Capitalism's arse is collapsing. Humpty Dumpty has fallen off the wall and it's going to take more than all the king's horses and all the king's men to put him back together again. The strikers appear to be on a loser, in Europe anyway. Obama's policies in the US seem to be protectionist though. Maybe some of that will rub off over here. Whatever, there are very worrying times ahead, for most of us anyway.

The bottom is falling out of the market? laugh.gif

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 1 2009, 12:08 AM) [snapback]572506[/snapback]
Of course they are, every single one of them. Why do you ask?

Must I have a reason for asking?

QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 1 2009, 12:10 AM) [snapback]572508[/snapback]
They are indeed worrying times, no argument there.

But I firmly believe that if countries adopt protectionist policies it will make the global recession much, much worse.

And no-one yet has explained to me how that could be done in practical terms anyway.


I think I see where you're coming from.
mortonjag 2009-02-01 00:20:54
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 31 2009, 11:59 PM) [snapback]572499[/snapback]
Sir Cliff is Tony Blair's mate rolleyes.gif . That is unforgivable ph34r.gif

Arw you calling BLIAR a POUFFE?
mortonjag 2009-02-01 00:23:01
QUOTE(centralTON @ Feb 1 2009, 12:14 AM) [snapback]572510[/snapback]
As we have no game next week, I have suggested to the boy that we go to the 'Shire v Albion Rovers game. He declined the offer. Will probably just do 20 miles on my bike instead. laugh.gif

Do you enjoy being taken for a ride? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-01 00:31:54
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 1 2009, 12:05 AM) [snapback]572503[/snapback]
i've never seen the attraction with australia. a desert on the other side of the world with no culture? f*** that. if i want sun i go to spain. 2 hours away and not full of wankers

Not devoid of them either when forza arrives! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-01 00:36:16
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 1 2009, 12:09 AM) [snapback]572507[/snapback]
Just for xj2006

enjoy.......

Many thanks Baldy-it's a sad indictment of the general paucity of intellect and perception on our little massage board that posters resort to BOASTING when they can't match the Jag's scintillating and incisive wit. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-01 00:42:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 1 2009, 12:34 AM) [snapback]572518[/snapback]
As I've said before, it all stems from a natural instinct to look out for one's own. The EU bureaucrats who dreamed up the free labour market don't have to worry about job security. The multinational corporations who benefit from the system don't give a damn about people who might lose their jobs to incoming workers.
The free market can have a very destabilising effect upon communities, that much we learned from Thacherism. And what about the incoming workers themselves? They have to uproot from their own communities in the search for work. What effect does that have on the families they leave behind?
I suppose one of the main advantages to the multinationals is that the incoming worker is here on his/her own without family, and therefore is more 'flexibly available' to work unsociable, non-family friendly shifts. All workers, all families, all communities desire stability and social cohesion. I'd suggest that the so-called free labour market can work against these objectives.

I know what you mean. Women should never have been allowed to have children and then go to work. That has BY FAR been the most destabilising factor in our society in the last fifty years-and in most instances has been borne out of greed rather than need. It could of course be argued that they have merely been exploited by those nasty capitalists looking for cheap labour! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-01 00:53:21
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Feb 1 2009, 12:37 AM) [snapback]572520[/snapback]
We'd better bin Irons this minute so we can get somebody decent in. OK, Shipmanjag admits that he can't name one single available replacement that he'd expect to do a better job but we should still sack him anyway. We've already missed out on getting Terry 'Inverness Will Now Get A Top Three Finish' Butcher. If we wait too long we'll miss out on John Robertson and Ossie Ardilles as well.

I'm not quite sure if I like the term Shipmanjag when it comes from somebody who describes himself as Satan's Husband! Has that old bugger been giving your wife one on the fly? laugh.gif

Anyway, your post is pointless, except as a personal attack. It's common knowledge that sheep lips is not exactly the most popular chappie behind closed doors. Indeed it's even been suggested that the auld shooglefud regrets the minute he put pen to paper, but to misquote an overused cliche on this massage board-don't let fact get in the way of a good jag attack! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-01 00:56:08
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 1 2009, 12:38 AM) [snapback]572521[/snapback]
No you must not. I take it that on this occasion my curiousity will be denied. tongue.gif


Aye!
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 1 2009, 12:45 AM) [snapback]572523[/snapback]
Oh no you don't. laugh.gif

Do you? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-01 01:16:29
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Feb 1 2009, 12:57 AM) [snapback]572527[/snapback]
A personal attack? In what way? A jokey name? You never address anyone like that do you?

Tedious.

One of these days, why don't you suggest a good candidate for a new manager. Otherwise, I can't be bothered playing children's tennis with you.

I find your repeated attacks tedious-not your jocular term!!
I'm heartened, however, to observe that you want a new manager! Why should I carry the responsibility for his nomination?

It IS permissible to notice and comment that things are not quite right, without the prerequisite of an instant solution. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-01 01:23:07
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 1 2009, 01:19 AM) [snapback]572531[/snapback]
Shouldn't you be in bed? It is way past your bedtime!

Unless you are on a tipple, then I will shake your hand, dance Congratulations with you then hold you arm during Loch Lomond to bring the night to a close!

Mye dadz bean inn hys bedde phawr aygis-mean fynge hav bean riting phawr hymn-gudenite (sined Munx) xxx
mortonjag 2009-02-01 08:48:27
QUOTE(GreatKingRat @ Feb 1 2009, 12:12 AM) [snapback]572509[/snapback]
That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever read.




What is ridiculous about suggesting that we should be expecting to win our home matches if we wish to progress, and indeed, what is ridiculous about stating that my erstwhile nominal Rangers supporting friend MIGHT have been coaxed to spend more time at Cappielow if she'd seen anything worth watching?

I'd like an answer this time BTW! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-01 09:02:33 [quote name='The Naitch' date='Feb 1 2009, 08:47 AM' post='572544']

Oh dear. I thought you had given up on your paranoid rants. sad.gif



For your information dear, SH only EVER responds to mortonjag's posts with' nasties'-in that respect he's a less viperous version of the, for the time being, largely absent mangy cur.



Is it? unsure.gif


Aye!




Where?

By a reliable source! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-01 09:12:48 [quote name='TonInDublin' post='572547' date='Feb 1 2009, 08:57 AM']


Can I just say, that despite the fact we don't always agree on things (although we do agree on way more than we'll ever admit !), I always look forward to Colkitto's post match summaries.

They are always well thought out, very fair and very balanced.

Take a bow sir, credit where it's due.


TonInDublin








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Well I suppose the daft loonball Anglophobe has to get something right.

I agreed with his summary in detail apart from this:



Morton deserved their point, matched St J in most area's, although St J looked the more composed team with some nice passing and inter-play


Oh well it's an imperfect world, and something totally devoid of positive spin just wouldn't be SPURTLE laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-01 10:41:57
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 1 2009, 09:18 AM) [snapback]572551[/snapback]
[codebox]I made it up.[/codebox]

No Naitch, mortonjag never makes things up as you very well know.

I have been informed by a very reliable source that-shall we say- Shoogly might do things differently if he could now turn the clock back to the time of JM's departure.

is that OK with you?

Am I to be allowed to tell the truth without further attempts at ridicule?

Let's face it, if I'm privy to this information in the backwoods of Glesca, it may be fairly well acknowledged among the Inverclyde cognoscenti! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-01 10:45:37
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 1 2009, 09:54 AM) [snapback]572554[/snapback]
We had people round last night so this is the first chance I've had to comment. I thought that our game plan included McAllister man marking Miller - that's what he seemed to be trying to do - but it did'nt work because all it did was create acres of space for them down their right, our left. It also left Smith pretty exposed and whilst I think he had a poor game yesterday, some of the criticism is over the top. He's a young lad and as he matures he'll develop into a decent defender.

We were up against the league leaders yesterday whose success is built on having a very solid defence and by far the most powerful midfield in this league. My take is not so much that our guys played badly but that they were not allowed to play by a better team. Masterton and McGuffie just got no time on the ball and were pressed hard the whole game. As a result their passing was hurried and often poor. When its tight like that you look for the simple pass but too often Masterton wants to play the killer through ball which was never going to come off.

Generally the defence coped well but its a while since I have seen anyone give Greacen and Shimmin as hard a time as the big guy (Holmes?) did

Weatherson did well and so did Wake in the first half but he faded in the second and his sub by Russell was correct. I agree with most people that McAllister was poor again and he should have been subbed sooner. As soon as Jenkisn came on, he steadied the ship and we were not under nearly as much pressure.

My man of the match was Alex Walker. If he could produce that sort of performance every week I would have no issues with him at right back.

I thought the ref was decent yesterday in that he let there be a contest between the centre halves and the forwards. Well done also to the cowshed linesman and to Mr Thomson for being big enough to change his mind re the penalty that never was. I thought the Morris incident earlier was a stonewaller and so if he got that wrong, it was in our favour.

Finally, a point against the league leaders is OK. They hit the bar but other than that I can't remember Cuthbert having a save to make. I recall Main having two - Weatherson and Walker - both in the first half and Weatherson's last gasp effort being deflected just wide. It would have been hard on Saints who were for the most part the better team until they got to the 18 yard line and then they just ran out of ideas.


Mine too-a guy whose progress was severely retarded by JM! mad.gif


QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 1 2009, 10:05 AM) [snapback]572558[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-02-01 13:55:33
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Feb 1 2009, 11:54 AM) [snapback]572586[/snapback]
Is that the female who sat beside you at the Livi match too? Christ, I thought she was your carer! What's happened to your brother MJ? Has he got fed up listen to the drivel you must come out with on match days as well as on here? BTW, if your erstwhile friend really does support the Huns then she will never come to see a wee diddy team like Morton - supporting one of the Old Firm is a disease not a choice. laugh.gif laugh.gif

She was not at the Livi match Anus! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Feb 1 2009, 12:11 PM) [snapback]572591[/snapback]
laugh.gif An instant solution laugh.gif
Actually I respond with questions you never answer. But you probably find that offensive.


I always attempt to answer bona fide questions. I do not, however, tolerate fools gladly! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-01 13:58:22
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 1 2009, 11:24 AM) [snapback]572576[/snapback]
Jenkins is capable of this but he spends 80 minutes on the bench...

.........and that is down to sheep lips' ego! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-01 14:02:43
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 1 2009, 01:58 PM) [snapback]572626[/snapback]
McAllister has questions to ask himself this season. He may have been asked to do a bit of extra covering for Smith, but you can't get away from the fact he isn't getting the basics right himself.
I hope he wakes up today and is extremely embarrassed about his petulant schoolboy behaviour when he was subbed yesterday. Walking off in a huff without even giving an acknowledgement to the supporters showed arrogance and an attitude that he thinks he is above all that no matter how he is playing.

McAllister is not a wee boy anymore. He has experienced first team football for more than a few seasons now.
The problem with Jim is he hasn't improved as many were predicting. His final ball has is still attrocious most of the time. It's ok beating a couple of players running down the flanks and catching the eye, but 9 times out of 10 he fails in the end product, either by failing to find a man or putting the ball out of play.
He is probably at the crossroads of his career in some respects. He either knuckles down and works on his game and gets somewhere in this game. Or he can carry on thinking he is some kind of prima donna and has a footballing career in the lower leagues of Scottish football.
We have seen it happen so many times here at Cappielow. How many players have come through the doors promising a so much as a player and then turned out to be mediocre players who can turn it on once in a while ? Ending up at dead end clubs when it could have been so different.



I was very surprised by his behaviour yesterday, though it did confirm for me something I've suspected for a while-that Jimbo doesn't realise how pish he can be.

For that reason if nothing else, I'd definitely drop him to the bench in a fortnight, and make him play convincingly as a sub. before he gets back in.
mortonjag 2009-02-01 14:05:11
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 1 2009, 12:54 AM) [snapback]572525[/snapback]
when you've done being a bawbag for the evening please explain why you didn't say hello to me today. i know you seen me when i waved at you.

I didn't see you yesterday forza!

What did you think of my partner? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-01 14:12:42
QUOTE(El Duderino @ Feb 1 2009, 10:44 AM) [snapback]572566[/snapback]
Er, no, I'm not!

I just happen to think that as a professional he has to work within accepted practice, both professionally and legally, otherwise he's a sitting duck.

The way to change accepted practice isn't through individual actions - It has to be through legal and professional challenge.

He's a medical professional making challenging decisions daily. He has to be accountable for his actions and if his actions involve illegal actions, and concealment of information then, well, basically he's f***ed

I agree with most of that, but NOTHING will change by itself. People just ain't interested in discussing euthanasia unless they have a vested interest and my sincere belief is that the establishment, and particularly established religion, has a great deal to answer for.

It would need a really high profile case with nationwide publicity before the 'public' could be persuaded to give the problems associated with assisted euthanasia more than a fleeting thought.
mortonjag 2009-02-01 14:14:41
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Feb 1 2009, 11:06 AM) [snapback]572569[/snapback]
Anyone else looking forward to Tuesday with up to a foot of the white stuff predicted rolleyes.gif

I knew the delivery from Columbia was imminent Willy Man! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-01 14:27:11
QUOTE(RevDave @ Feb 1 2009, 02:05 PM) [snapback]572631[/snapback]
We seem to be quick to judge his reaction to being subbed yesterday. Managers often claim that it would be worse if a player was happy to be subbed.

That's very true Reverent Sir. It's just that many seemed to diagnose his behaviour as petulant, rather than self disgusted.

Did you clock him as he came past Irons-blanking him completely (possibly to avoid the customary meaningless and cringeworthy cuddle) and running straight 'up the tunnel' with a face that could kill?

I'm not one for kicking a man when he's down, and I've always believed that Jimbo has untapped potential which has been stifled at Cappielow.

He has, however, failed to perform for weeks, and for himself as much as for the club, that needs fixed.
mortonjag 2009-02-01 15:40:20
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Feb 1 2009, 02:52 PM) [snapback]572648[/snapback]
Good reports from Collkito and Tonsillitis
Usual hot air blethering from Mortonjag, ( do you never go out , watch the telly etc, you seem to haunt this board continually)
As for you being at the game with a lady friend , was her name Baaaaabera ? you seem to know a lot about sheeplips, perhaps this is where you found the demeaning name four our****** manager.

Anyway to cut to the chase, Ra Gemme.

We were lucky to get away with a point as we were continually out played by a better team who at least seemed to know what they were about.
One respondent said it was a long time since he had seen Gracen and Shimmin given such a hard game. Pardon, how about last week Armand One gave the pair a right good tousing; get that guy fit and he would be far and away the best striker in this division.
Anyway it is nice to see that a lot of correspondants are coming round to my view that our midfield is woeful.
Kevin Findlayston is the only one I would retain.
Masterson (freekicks apart) gives the ball to the opposition far more than he passes to an opponent, I think this division is one too high for him.
McGuffie, occasionally flatters to deceive, as with his goal last week, generally ineffective, hides a lot.
McAllister, I was a fan of Jimbo but he has not played well this season, he was faster and trickier against players in lower divisions, opposition at this level (not the highest) are as quick or quicker than he, needs to work on temperament, control and his left foot (he can use it).
Next week I would drop Masterson, McGuffie and McAllister.
Bring in Partalu in the centre Jebkins on the left
Play Wake and Russell up front with Weatherston playing in the hole between midfield and the two up front,
Peter has a lot of guile and could play well in this position.

Any way , It will never happen, so upwards and onwards,
My opinion for what it is worth.

Foobs the elder
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Very good Foobs. Have you examined Mr Irons' lips? I've always found sheep to have beautiful lips-haven't ewe?

If you're going to come on here and bore me to tears with your prattle, do yourself the favour of learning how to spell the players names properly.

It's quite discourteous to get them wrong. 'McAllister', Partalu, and Weatherston-are you SURE you're a Ton supporter? unsure.gif

'Findlayston' for Finlayson is IMHO quite inexcusable-I'm sure Victoria would 'biff' you if he heard that! laugh.gif

Oh and my 'lady friend' is Maaaairi. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-01 15:45:10
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Feb 1 2009, 02:56 PM) [snapback]572649[/snapback]
never thought I would agree with the

JAGSTER
FOOBS blush.gif

It's not against the law! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-01 15:48:01
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 1 2009, 02:16 PM) [snapback]572637[/snapback]
Thanks for all the comments i am doing much better, i have to take it easy for a wee bit but will get back to normal in a few weeks.

I've genuinely missed you. Hurry back-I need a Mod with a sense of humour. wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-01 15:51:17
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Feb 1 2009, 03:13 PM) [snapback]572657[/snapback]
So do you reckon I might get a wee visit from the SDEA on Tuesday unsure.gif

They're useless-I see dugs wandering all over the place-crapping in public etc!
mortonjag 2009-02-01 16:01:00
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Feb 1 2009, 03:52 PM) [snapback]572668[/snapback]
fixed

Oh and my lady friends proffesional name is Maaaairi. rolleyes.gif

That's quite rude! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-01 17:59:21
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Feb 1 2009, 05:00 PM) [snapback]572676[/snapback]
Oh yes she was! cool.gif

You have some explaining to do Anus-Maaaaaairi has spotted this thread and wants to know about this non-existent female! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-01 18:02:37
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Feb 1 2009, 05:25 PM) [snapback]572683[/snapback]
That is against the club's rules - season tickets are non-tranferrable.
You're barred.

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mortonjag 2009-02-01 18:06:40
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 1 2009, 04:15 PM) [snapback]572671[/snapback]
i didn't notice him

biggrin.gif Not him-the female one!
mortonjag 2009-02-01 18:11:23
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Feb 1 2009, 06:03 PM) [snapback]572707[/snapback]
Doesn't she know about your carer auld yin? laugh.gif laugh.gif

She IS my bloody carer Anus, and she was not at the Livi game-I was allowed to go to that one all by myself as I hadn't wet my nappy all week.
mortonjag 2009-02-01 18:21:46 It seems to me that there is a hard core within the squad which tends to get a game irrespective of recent form, or whom we're up against, and that allies to a reluctance on DI's part to make substitutions.

I reckon LEAFY has suffered badly in that respect, and some of the abuse he's had on here has been utterly daft. Yesterday-in the short time he got on the pitch he showed his versatility and ability to link. I'm convinced that if he'd started the game, he'd have made two or three chances for Spoonsy-maybe even nicked a goal himself. Big Pantaloons is another who seems frozen out right now-he's not everybody's cup of tea, but against certain sides I'd rather see him than say, McGuffie.

Jenkins, of course, is the example par excellence-I don't care what anybody says-that boy should be on the pitch far more than he is. Why is he being snubbed?
mortonjag 2009-02-01 20:15:53
QUOTE(Deego @ Feb 1 2009, 06:58 PM) [snapback]572732[/snapback]
Who are you?

Everybody knows who Anus is! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-01 20:42:44
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Feb 1 2009, 08:32 PM) [snapback]572759[/snapback]
Fair coverage of the game then.

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mortonjag 2009-02-01 20:49:47
QUOTE(piehutt @ Feb 1 2009, 07:17 PM) [snapback]572739[/snapback]
Here's a few bits and pieces, although I had to leave at 2.

When the trust initially asked for a replacement face on the board following Jim McColl's retirement - Rae said no.

After some bad press and a letter from the Trust advising of their various contributions, financial and otherwise, they agreed. Stuart was selected as a senior trust member and because he was known to Douglas Rae.

Stuart's main role is around youth development and the club seem quite keen to give him a fair amount of scope and even take his direction on what kind of set up we should have.

Stuart anticipates staying on the Morton board for around 3 years by which time he is hopeful there is a trust member with relevent experience who the club would accept as replacement.

The club are very ambitious with regards to getting into the SPL which is the main motivation for the development of the WDE, as well as encouraging more away fans to come to matches as the current away accomodation is poor.

The club were very very close to signing Yantorno and in his view did everything possible to sign him.

Stuart was given some negative feedback from more than one fan with regards to the commercial side of things and agreed to bring this up at the next meeting with the club.

Alistair Donald has a growing presence at Cappielow and often takes a table at hospitality for his business contacts and some sports personalities he knows. However he has not invested money.

Alistair has a lot of contacts with clubs down south and is hopeful pre-season games can be arranged with some big clubs with a view to generating income. Liverpool was mentioned as an example and a club who would probably fill Cappielow if anything was ever arranged.

Alistair is also keen to generate alternative income sources in the form of Grant's (European or otherwise).

Had to leave about then, but certainly looked as if there was a decent amount of discussion going on at that point.



It looks like Mr Donald is doing his best to move the club on. That's excellent news. Only one thing now stands in the way of progress! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-01 21:01:30
QUOTE(Loveless @ Feb 1 2009, 08:25 PM) [snapback]572756[/snapback]
I actually think that's how alot of them feel.

Criminals know they don't have as much to fear as they should.

You're also probably under the false illusion that a lot of these murderes are "nutcases" or "messed up". Infact, most of them are plain evil and know exactly what they're doing.

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Most folk who carry knives are as thick as shit in the neck of a bottle! I honestly believe that is one of the tragedies about knife crime-that they are NOT in the main 'plain evil', and that's one of the reasons why the message of zero tolerance has to be got across forcefully.

Birching is the ideal answer.
mortonjag 2009-02-01 21:36:31
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 1 2009, 09:26 PM) [snapback]572768[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDIf he was he kept it under his hat.
mortonjag 2009-02-01 22:26:51
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 1 2009, 10:04 PM) [snapback]572775[/snapback]
you


You what? rolleyes.gif


QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 1 2009, 10:23 PM) [snapback]572782[/snapback]
All he needs to do then is back his ideas with an investment. We'll just wait and see.

Are you suggesting that he won't? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-01 22:31:00
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 1 2009, 10:25 PM) [snapback]572784[/snapback]
You might be right in that Douglas Rae overrated him based on the amount of money he was willing to spend on him.

I'm not going into a whole debate about McGowan's position - I think we did that enough when he was here. All I will say is in my opinion he is definitely a striker - just not an out and out goalscoring number 9.

I think Jamie Stevenson is getting out of football what he puts in and that's why he's in the third division.

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Excellent!

Gowsa is never going to be a predator. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-01 22:32:56
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Jan 31 2009, 05:38 PM) [snapback]572358[/snapback]
Sorry to burst yer bubble mate.

It was DDF, sitting with Crawford and Arthur Montford.

Are you saying Auld Shoogly's a wanker? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-01 22:35:45
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 1 2009, 10:31 PM) [snapback]572789[/snapback]
Our old mate Cet Wanquee Biscuit looks like he wishes to venture down that avenue.

See below:
What happens whenever the racist makes a valid point? Are they not allowed to express their views then?

I suspect that there's more than a tiny bit of instinctive xenophobia in us all. Some might argue that it's a defence mechanism! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-01 22:47:05
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 1 2009, 10:35 PM) [snapback]572793[/snapback]
Just you rolleyes.gif

Just you what? dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-01 22:52:36
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 1 2009, 10:47 PM) [snapback]572797[/snapback]
But theres a huge world outside the confines of this messageboard. Some folk on here dont realise it, but there is.

Laws cannot change attitudes, and people arent happy that they foreign workers are valued higher than them so they have recourse to their right to protest. Perfectly understandable.

As for the moderators of this messageboard supporting "Show Racism the Red Card", it just shows up the level of hypocrisy amongst the moderators of this 'unofficial' messageboard, who think it is perfectly acceptable to defame Ally McCoist, Hazel Irvine, Marco Negri and Sergio Porrini's Wife but not someone who takes a wage from Morton FC and has persistently short-changed the Morton support for the past six years.

Cappie? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-01 22:54:14
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Feb 1 2009, 10:52 PM) [snapback]572799[/snapback]
AH WELL..........different transfer window......same s***e..

No new signings when its evident we are lacking up front....

Never say 'never'! huh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-01 23:13:28
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 1 2009, 11:01 PM) [snapback]572804[/snapback]
They want an end to 'positive discrimination' in favour of cheap labour from overseas, and they want fellow British workers to get a fairer chance of landing these jobs.

Not too difficult ot work out, is it?

If it was a British company who had a policy of not employing Irish, Polish or Asian workers allsorts of accusations would be levyed against them by self-righteous porridge-knitters like you.

The mind boggles! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-02 06:53:59
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 2 2009, 12:29 AM) [snapback]572842[/snapback]
I'll believe his investment when I see it confirmed (by audit). cool.gif

You unsure.gif sound somewhat sceptical!
mortonjag 2009-02-02 07:03:20
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Feb 1 2009, 11:44 PM) [snapback]572825[/snapback]
I haven't read through a lot of this, but to get straight to the point...
Morton are by far the worst team I've seen. No skill, no intelligence, no nothing.
The thing with that is, that the players are there to do it. Perhaps it'd be more appropriate to attribute the above solely to the management team, because they're strangling Morton to death as a footballing entity. Even other professional players say that Morton are an awful football team.

Indeed-there have been several comments over recent weeks from managers and other pros-e.g. 'Morton play a certain way', ' Morton make it ugly', 'we know how Morton play'. TBH I couldn't care less what they think, but it IS true that DI's philosophy at the moment seems focussed on stopping others from playing football, rather than trying to play it ourselves, and as you say Eanie, it often makes for a boring ninety minutes. Even when you reflect on games that were 'enjoyable'-e.g. Partick at Cappielow, we still play one dimensional unimaginative stuff. Sometimes it just happens to work!!!

QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Feb 1 2009, 11:49 PM) [snapback]572826[/snapback]
On saturday we were awful, was going to this game with a bit of optimism due to the show put on by the team against Livi (first half anyway). They are capable of it, jesus christ I wouldnt mind losing a few games, especially to the league leaders, if we actually tried to have a go at them. St Johnstone were good to watch, they made space off the ball and tried to break the defence down. Our return was punt and hope, the football on offer was dire and I was amazed how I did not leave early. So boring.

As Derek McInnes said they were good for the first 20 minutes-I thought during that spell that their midfield looked light years ahead of ours-and then we began to stifle the game to reap the handsome reward of one point which the official website seems to see as 'glass half full'!
mortonjag 2009-02-02 07:16:48
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Feb 1 2009, 11:25 PM) [snapback]572821[/snapback]
I think the "pc mob" are a figment of the imagination

a product of the sun newspaper

I don't, and I've regularly noticed from your postings that you can be a wee bit 'PC' yourself. I wonder what you do in your day job!

There is a whole sub culture of 'political correctness', ranging from pathetic one to one situations where unfulfilled arseholes get their rocks off by pulling up friends, colleagues, and fellow posters for complete trivia, to highly paid individuals at the top of self perpetuating and highly inefficient organisations such as the Commission for Racial Equality.

The P.C. mob is alive and kicking. Those folk would be bugging our homes if given half a chance! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-02 07:21:28
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 2 2009, 12:11 AM) [snapback]572836[/snapback]
Aye but that really is like being the worlds tallest dwarf.

...and the taller those dwarves are, the harder they fall apparently!
mortonjag 2009-02-02 07:23:56
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Feb 2 2009, 06:02 AM) [snapback]572852[/snapback]
aacording to the latest BBC 5 day forecast there is now going to be ligh rain (in Greenock) tomorrow, Tuesday with only light snowfall anticipated today.

They are indeed frequently liars.
mortonjag 2009-02-02 07:30:13
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 2 2009, 12:19 AM) [snapback]572839[/snapback]
Roasted cheddar on toast. Nane o that poncey imported stuff for me. Oh, I forgot to mention Branston Pickle. That's got to be the piece de resistance as far as roasted cheese is concerned.

Seconded!

I'm a cheese addict-so much so that I've stopped eating it for self preservation. I enjoy all cheeses including the somewhat blandly flavoured Brie (Camembert is 'fuller'), but ye canny beat a thick Scottish Plain outsider toasted with a generous helping of extra mature Scottish cheddar, and sprinkled with freshly ground black pepper and a dash of Worcestershire sauce.


MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!
mortonjag 2009-02-02 08:14:33
QUOTE(dazed @ Feb 2 2009, 08:13 AM) [snapback]572869[/snapback]
These types are the scum of the earth, and whilst I have always been against the death penalty, if anyone deserves it its these B******* mad.gif

You are too kind by far! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-02 09:06:08
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 2 2009, 08:16 AM) [snapback]572871[/snapback]
I'd see a doctor if I were you Jaggy, that fart you did a couple of minutes ago sounded a bit 'squidgy'.

I'd stop buying cheap equipment if I were you 'Trois Maisons'-that was the door bell! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-02 09:10:38
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 2 2009, 09:07 AM) [snapback]572887[/snapback]
Heavy snow in East Kilbride. I'm away to dig my car out.

You will fill your garage with bric a brac Peter!
mortonjag 2009-02-02 09:15:10
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Feb 2 2009, 08:51 AM) [snapback]572879[/snapback]
Donald will be on board and I seriously think that you will see things starting too happen next season, have faith.

I have always believed that AD wants the club.
mortonjag 2009-02-02 09:57:11
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 2 2009, 09:33 AM) [snapback]572893[/snapback]
Get a picture up and we'll all give our opinions ..... that should kick start this forum !

TonInDublin

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mortonjag 2009-02-02 11:27:46
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Feb 2 2009, 11:17 AM) [snapback]572899[/snapback]
Thanks Piehutt. Bit disappointed that AD has not taken up a more active role behind the scenes given the time he has now been on the board. Taking a table in hospitality is all very nice but it's someway away from what I expected from the early press release.

The thing is that we don't really know the extent of his involvement-at least that's how I'm reading it. It's not exactly as though Mr Rae was ever likely to let him breenge in and take over.
mortonjag 2009-02-02 11:29:49
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 2 2009, 11:27 AM) [snapback]572902[/snapback]
VERY nice !!!!! Young, attractive, body looks excellent, very easy on the eye and no doubt some real staying power.

And the burd's not bad either !

TonInDublin

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mortonjag 2009-02-02 12:38:02 This is not a complaint-merely a comment. I bought a wee banner for the car back windscreen on Saturday. I think it looks quite 'swish'. It cost me £8.00.
mortonjag 2009-02-02 12:41:35
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 2 2009, 12:23 PM) [snapback]572940[/snapback]
I think they might be poofters as well. laugh.gif

...and of course they might not! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-02 12:43:36 We've had about two to three inches of snow lying here-no big deal, but I looked out of the window a wee while back to see a couple of young kids enjoying themselves with Mum and Dad taking photos. I'm guessing it's the first time they've ever experienced snow.
mortonjag 2009-02-02 12:45:58
QUOTE(Malt @ Feb 2 2009, 12:41 PM) [snapback]572951[/snapback]
Think I got last seasons top for £8 at the end of the season. You were robbed Dr Jag!!!!

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I did think it was a bit expensive Malt, but Munx and Fing already have scarves, and we'd promised one to their wee brother Cheeky.

WEANS! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-02 12:58:52
QUOTE(EBu @ Feb 2 2009, 12:48 PM) [snapback]572958[/snapback]
Was it made by nike?

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mortonjag 2009-02-02 13:19:44
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 2 2009, 01:13 PM) [snapback]572969[/snapback]
Is it still the same shade of blue as when bought rolleyes.gif

Believe it or not that IS the shade-more of a turquoise which rather disappointed the wee monkey. It also has a shiny surface unlike his brothers' woolly ones!
mortonjag 2009-02-02 13:23:23
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 2 2009, 01:17 PM) [snapback]572971[/snapback]
Thats the sign of a real quality burd, nae plooks on her erse!

The sanitary man wid need to pull me aff !

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mortonjag 2009-02-02 13:36:28
QUOTE(Thrax @ Feb 2 2009, 01:27 PM) [snapback]572978[/snapback]
"A dug eatin' beetroot"

Taken from the letters page of daily free newspaper METRO - note to Londoners, the Scottish edition carries a different, altogether more demented letters page than the one Down South. A helpful explanation of a particularly odd Scot saying, and possibly the best letter ever.

The phrase "like a big dug eatin' beetroot" is used to describe an endeavour in which the participant employs the same gusto as a dog would when eating beetroot, ie "look at that burd, I'd be in there like a dug eatin' beetroot".
Imagine, if you will, a snowy white Jack Russell peering into a giant vat of delicious beetroot (you see dogs have a dichotomy, there is nothing dogs like more than the taste of pickled beetroot).
A dog would eat beetroot until its wee jaws were positively aching with chewing the sweet, pungent orb of purple goodness. And there is where the quandary lies - a dog would literally gorge itself to death on beetroot if it had a large enough supply, it knows its stomach can't cope with the volume, but still he wolfs down the delicious Baxter's manna.
Now imagine the wee Jack Russell jumps into the vat, turning his once virginal fur into a sleek violet wetsuit. This is the most amazing sight a man will ever see, watching the sorrow on the dug's face as he realises that no matter how much he can eat, he will never be able to eat enough. Truly spectacular.
Alasdair Morrison, Glasgow



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I've never heard that expression in my life, nor have I ever known a dog with a passion for beetroot! blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-02 13:39:48
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Feb 2 2009, 01:25 PM) [snapback]572977[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI'd like to see that with Superkev's head superimposed!
mortonjag 2009-02-02 13:45:37 and many happy returns to our City.


signed,

Uncle Terry. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-02 13:48:57
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 2 2009, 01:46 PM) [snapback]572995[/snapback]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinbu...ast/7863635.stm

Now I am abit 'arty' but under the present financial climate I do wonder whether these paintings are worth the cost .I am sure there are many other works that could replace the Titians and others.

Discuss

I'm not in favour of porn-full stop! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-02 14:10:25
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 2 2009, 01:56 PM) [snapback]573014[/snapback]
Been snowing all day in Glasgow. Has been coming on and off but when on it tends to be quite heavy!

Snow in the City Centre-WOW! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-02 14:14:53
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 2 2009, 01:59 PM) [snapback]573018[/snapback]
Stephen
Here to help smile.gif

Hen (Henry) Broon - the lanky, awkward son and firstborn child of Maw and Paw. About 30 years old and an average guy who rarely gets the girl. He is often taken advantage of for his height; for example, being made to act as a clothes stand to keep the washing line up. Early Broons cartoons featured Hen wearing a zoot suit. Hen is aspirational, for example every couple of years or so he buys a car. Such purchases, however, always end in failure. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-02 14:16:52
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Feb 2 2009, 01:54 PM) [snapback]573006[/snapback]
From today's tele "Irons, however, did not rule out the possibility of trying to fix up Yantorno on a loan in the future, saying that there were complications regarding the player’s agent."

wonder what that means?

MUNNY! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-02 14:19:35
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 2 2009, 02:17 PM) [snapback]573042[/snapback]
I wonder if Wee Eck knows about that. What a shocker.

Bawheid is a fan of the Broons-he's even been to Lunding to see them!
mortonjag 2009-02-02 14:39:16
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 2 2009, 02:08 PM) [snapback]573031[/snapback]
Sadly we don't have a garage. We converted it into another living room. Sometimes I miss it but it was pointless as it only took one car and our family has 3.



QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 2 2009, 02:27 PM) [snapback]573052[/snapback]
So it's Davie 'Trois Voitures' McArthur then. The poncey cheese and wine import business must be doing well. laugh.gif

Indeed, here's a wee piccy of two of M. McArthur's voitures. I believe the other was in having work done on the supercharger.

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mortonjag 2009-02-02 14:52:15
QUOTE(calton @ Feb 2 2009, 02:44 PM) [snapback]573071[/snapback]
I heard that he signed his contract on the proviso that if a bigger club came in, he could move if it was to Morton and his benefit. It meant that Morton could get a better fee for him.

A SPL club came in and Mr Rae told them no. So is it any wonder he is pissed off and his form has dipped?

I believe this is not the first time this has happened with the chairman.

Do you have any details?
mortonjag 2009-02-02 14:55:07
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Feb 2 2009, 02:47 PM) [snapback]573076[/snapback]
Well they can shove that ? Robbers

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Walking takes much longer!
mortonjag 2009-02-02 15:07:04
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 2 2009, 02:56 PM) [snapback]573082[/snapback]
No, but I suspect you would. biggrin.gif

Unlike Spurtle the Anglophile! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-02 15:08:45
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 2 2009, 03:05 PM) [snapback]573084[/snapback]
My point exactly , Russell showed he wants to play football totally alien to Irons ethos.

Indeed-Windmill won't sacrifice his two defensive 'wingers'.
mortonjag 2009-02-02 15:15:29 I suppose that when it comes down to it, gold is just a metal that's been artificially made 'precious', and promissory notes just scraps of paper.
mortonjag 2009-02-02 16:30:53
QUOTE(Bawhirley Road @ Feb 2 2009, 03:20 PM) [snapback]573094[/snapback]
--------------Cuthbert----------------
Walker--Greacen-Shimmin---Smith
---McGuffie---Masterton--Jenkins---
Finlayson----------------------Russell
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Yes McAlister has not being playing at all well.

But when you look at the list above and take the bottom six names - there isn't one player there who can lace his boots or who would be worth tuppence on the open market.

so for all those who think a place on the bench would be a good thing for him

just be careful what you wish for

Irons should get him up the park - out on that left wing.

Or come to think of it ...would he be any worse at centre forward than the guy that's there at the moment?


Aye right Jimbo! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-02 17:26:05
QUOTE(Thrax @ Feb 2 2009, 04:17 PM) [snapback]573131[/snapback]
that reminds me of what this old man told said to me about this weightlifter girl he used to pump...think he said something like "tough titty!"

Past date Brie from Brest?
mortonjag 2009-02-02 17:30:46
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 2 2009, 04:54 PM) [snapback]573148[/snapback]
I'm only kidding honest. No need to take the huff, 'three motors'. biggrin.gif

So was I Peter-a ponce would never live in a shithole like E.K! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-02 17:33:25
QUOTE(Pedro_c @ Feb 2 2009, 03:43 PM) [snapback]573106[/snapback]
What about getting the bus? It's full of pensioners but it's cheaper than the train especially if you're going before nine o'clock. Done it for ten years before I chucked it and I worked for Railtrack and then Network Rail at the time. So obviously I was very loyal to the Railway:) Now can't afford a f***ing bus to Greenock these days.

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mortonjag 2009-02-02 17:35:58
QUOTE(Thrax @ Feb 2 2009, 05:30 PM) [snapback]573162[/snapback]
blink.gif dairy lea...

i mean...

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Gouda gracious.
mortonjag 2009-02-02 17:47:14
QUOTE(calton @ Feb 2 2009, 05:43 PM) [snapback]573168[/snapback]
Believe it was Motherwell.

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Not a very good reply. I'm the first to criticise the old shooglefud when it's justified, but just wonder if there is any documented evidence of an actual offer being turned down. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-02 17:54:42
QUOTE(Pedro_c @ Feb 2 2009, 05:47 PM) [snapback]573170[/snapback]
Am I wrong about the pensioners bit? No, i'm not. I even tell my parents they should wait until the quiet periods before they go to Glasgow for nothing. Don't have a probem with that but peak time is different. Feel free to moan because, well, it's what you do best.


WHY? ph34r.gif


Yes, you most certainly are bang out of order!

We recently had a thread about stereotypes and you come across as the stereotypical arrogant young brat.

Has it ever occurred to you that when those 'pensioners' were your age, they had a totally different work ethic from that of today's namby pamby jumped up wasters-AND they respected their elders.

YOUR post was unashamedly ageist. You deserve a good spanking.

Consider yourself spanked by proxy. mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-02 17:56:44
QUOTE(Thrax @ Feb 2 2009, 05:49 PM) [snapback]573171[/snapback]
Edam you to hell MJ!

I hope you pass a Roquefort your next jobby.
mortonjag 2009-02-02 18:04:48
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 2 2009, 06:01 PM) [snapback]573178[/snapback]
So speaks the man from the s***eside of Glasgow. laugh.gif

Correct Edwards-nothing poncey about this neck o' the woods!
mortonjag 2009-02-02 18:08:52 [attachment=5134:jinty.jpg]
mortonjag 2009-02-02 18:11:31
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 2 2009, 06:08 PM) [snapback]573185[/snapback]
They are experts on ponceynessso the lectures would be well informed. happy.gif
Baby McB drove to Inverness from Edinburgh this morning, reports that the A9 was totally mental.

This ageism is endemic! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-02 18:53:37
QUOTE(larmton @ Feb 2 2009, 06:37 PM) [snapback]573202[/snapback]
Never heard of it.
Thought it be the same concept as describing an unfortunate looking womans face as "a dug lickin pish aff a nettle."
Funny nonetheless smile.gif

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mortonjag 2009-02-02 18:56:58
QUOTE(Yoda @ Feb 2 2009, 06:21 PM) [snapback]573196[/snapback]
New addition to the family? Did you get her from the Greyhound Rescue folk? Brilliant doggies with a lovely nature, she should get on well with Munx and Fing :-)

Well spotted-she arrives on Thursday-Jinty is her name-here's the link for any folk interested-those people are absolute gems.

A friend for life
mortonjag 2009-02-02 19:01:56
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 2 2009, 06:58 PM) [snapback]573219[/snapback]
You're not for saying 'welcome back' to Ken Clarke then?

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mortonjag 2009-02-02 19:03:51
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 2 2009, 07:00 PM) [snapback]573223[/snapback]
Lovely Dog

Ive got a Labradoodle Myself

He has just got out of Doggie Hosiptal after breaking his leg last Wed sad.gif

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI've had several labs-never a poodle-I know the labradoodle sounds a bit 'odd' but I gather they're superb pets.
mortonjag 2009-02-02 19:05:17
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 2 2009, 07:02 PM) [snapback]573227[/snapback]
Look, I've explained the car situation. I only have one. rolleyes.gif

It's OK trois voitures-the tax man doesn't log on here! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-02 19:11:02
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 2 2009, 06:14 PM) [snapback]573191[/snapback]
Talent Puggs? She can't sing. I'm afraid you're listening with your willie. rolleyes.gif



QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 2 2009, 06:33 PM) [snapback]573201[/snapback]
Might want to saw that's NSFW btw smile.gif

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mortonjag 2009-02-02 19:15:13
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 2 2009, 07:08 PM) [snapback]573237[/snapback]
I got hit with a tax bill of £2,333 last January because of a fricking car. Company I worked for at the time 'forgot' to tell Mr Taxman I had a company car in the tax year 2006-07. Nightmare. mad.gif

How did he find out? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-02 19:26:30
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 2 2009, 07:18 PM) [snapback]573249[/snapback]
To be totally honest I have no idea. I got sent a self assessment tax form and when I phoned to query it the b*****ds sprung that on me.

Morton's fork! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-02 19:29:32
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 2 2009, 07:21 PM) [snapback]573256[/snapback]
Yeah but so long as their cable gets lots of juice they're fine. unsure.gif

Joan of Arc-the welders' pin up! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-02 19:33:15
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Feb 2 2009, 07:28 PM) [snapback]573263[/snapback]
biggrin.gif laugh.gif That's quite a good one actually.
Everyone else has brought in a few players, whereas we've added nothing to a squad that already lacks significantly, particularly up front. It would come as no great surprise to see our lack of signings resulting in another last day relegation decided now.

Do you think DI doesn't want more players?

I'm sensing that Shoogly's effectively spanking his bum for spending all his his pocket money in the first sweetie shop he stumbled over! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-02 19:37:44
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 2 2009, 07:31 PM) [snapback]573265[/snapback]
Nah, Samanta Fox or Kathy Lloyd. Most of the guys I worked with wouldn't know who Joan of Arc was. In fact, most wouldn't have heard of an arc. Apart from the one Noah had obviously.

Have you heard of old Noah from Ghent
His arc was incredibly bent
On his very first date
It just wouldn't go straight
And instead of him coming he went. blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-02 20:10:31
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 2 2009, 07:41 PM) [snapback]573273[/snapback]
What? Someone could get in trouble if they view that in any machine in work (and before you bleat on about shouldn't be surfing the web at work a lot of places allow it during breaks and some have dedicated portals set up for this purpose...so hush!)

NO-YOU bloody well 'hush'.

I'm sick of listening to that sort of tripe. The responsibility lies fairly and squarely on the guy with the mouse in one hand and something else in the other. It shouldn't be up to moderators to introduce NSFW filters either.

Get the fuckin' fingers oot, and start doing a decent days work I say. No wonder there's gripe after gripe about 'foreigners stealing our jobs'!
When I was working, I never had time for a tea break!

Then again I was self employed! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-02 20:13:24 It seems that some folk on here could start a row in an empty house! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-02 20:22:57
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Feb 2 2009, 08:01 PM) [snapback]573282[/snapback]
Update :

I've went and picked up Dak from work. I told her that if I get a job in Glasgow then I will need to sell the car and not replace it as it will be costing me a fortune for train fares and we can't have everything.

This was met by horror by her majesty who was appalled that we wont be able to take the car to See Woo for her monthly tonne of Asian groceries.

I've always had a car and can't really imagine life without one. If it wasn't for her I'd get rid of it.

I've had a brainwave and came up with a half/train half car solution. This would involve drving to an underground station such as Govan, buying a season ticket for the underground and going to work and back that way. Does that sound like a reasonable solution ? Do you think it would be financially viable ? Or is it a daft idea and I'd be better just getting the train the whole way ?

It's all hypothetical at the moment anyway because I've not even been offered a job; I'm just trying to determine if its realistic or not to travel to work for peanuts. It would be different if it was a huge wage I was talking about but its not.


You could sell the car and buy a second hand scooter for travel to and from work. With the money you'd save you could hire a van for your monthly trip to See Woo, and still be well in pocket.
mortonjag 2009-02-02 20:30:28
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 2 2009, 08:22 PM) [snapback]573292[/snapback]
Aye because the information in the link screams as not suitable for work.

You are wrong.

Hush!

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No young man I'M NEVER WRONG and well you know it.

Put yourself in your employer's shoes-he finds you surfing a 'dodgy' site.

He pulls you up, and you say to him-'I never expected this kind of thing on an unofficial football fans' forum'.

He cynically replies-'Heard it son-yer fired'!

As I said little one-it's time our younger generation learned to take some bloody responsibility for their actions instead of always expecting Mummy to mop up the mess they leave behind! thumbdown.gif dry.gif ph34r.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-02 20:37:14
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Feb 2 2009, 08:31 PM) [snapback]573297[/snapback]
Is that your good lady? unsure.gif

[attachment=5136:mop_2.jpg]

Mairi! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-02 20:49:54
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Feb 2 2009, 08:41 PM) [snapback]573310[/snapback]
She looks nice, but does she really want a bunch of perves on here eyeing her up? unsure.gif

They shall see no more Mrs T!

That TiD's a rogue! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-02 21:24:15
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Feb 2 2009, 08:52 PM) [snapback]573317[/snapback]
If it was me, i'd be spanking your pink botty. wink.gif

What can I say to that? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-02 21:47:39
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Feb 2 2009, 09:33 PM) [snapback]573341[/snapback]
Aye and anyway if people bothered turning up to the meeting they'd have known it was a comment said and talked about for a whole ''2 minute '' or so! Stuart Duncan may well need to form some sort of online fans forum if he wants to get the fans views as many seem to be happy to complain etc online but not willing to go to a meeting in person. ps not refering to dingwall but just to the lack of turnout at the meeting.

That is the sort of thing that would prove once and for all that 'The Club' really wants dialogue with the fans. I'm getting good vibes about Stuart's intentions, but I'm acutely aware of Jim McColl's evident inability to cut any ice with the Shooglemeister, and wondering just how much can/will really change.
mortonjag 2009-02-02 21:55:39
QUOTE(Pedro_c @ Feb 2 2009, 09:16 PM) [snapback]573332[/snapback]
I love you too! I couldn't give a toss about the whole age thing but I'm going to have to mention the namby pamby bit and the arrogant young brat bit. There is no way in this world I am either. I resigned from Network Rail in a really well paid job because it sent me to hospital on two occassions and the first time nearly killed me. I now earn nothing because I resigned and this young brat is 32 and has been forced to move back with his parents because he doesn't have a penny to his name. I've spent 27 years of my life living in a flat in Midton so I don't think you can call that being a brat. You talk about work ethic. It nearly killed me working on the the Railway. It also cost me my girlfriend of ten years, my house and my car. I worked my arse off in that place so don't even think about criticising me. 700 quid a week to absolutely nothing is a bit s*** so sorry for the rant.

Pedro, I called you that in response to your comments about pensioners. It ain't often that Jag gets serious on this daft forum, but you were out of order unless it was said tongue in cheek-which my comments to you WERE!

I'm genuinely sorry to hear of your predicament.


I highlighted your age simply to make a point. It's so easy to typecast 'pensioners'. One of my sons is exactly your age and I still regard him at times as ' a cheeky young brat'!
mortonjag 2009-02-02 22:05:18
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 2 2009, 08:36 PM) [snapback]573303[/snapback]
Oh what a poor wee world you must live in sir. I'm sure back in your day of employment the internet was a big, bad scary place.

Today, however, it is widely accepted that most forms of forum work under a SFW rule. Anyone who uses the internet regularly and to some serious degree will know this. These forums may have a NSFW section - oh look...we have one of them - but it will be highlighted as such. Anything posted on the normal forums should be assumed to be SFW, unless stated otherwise.

You may go "ah but your boss will say this, your boss will say that" but unfortunately old man you lack the knowledge and experience these days wink.gif

Sometimes son, you talk a power of pish. My partner works for one of the biggest employers of labour in Scotland, and currently two of her colleagues are suspended on full pay-JUST FOR BROWSING!

Folk are paid to work at work-if you think otherwise I sincerely hope you get your fucking jotters pronto and are replaced by somebody with a bit of integrity. No surprise you're a cooncil 'employee' mad.gif

'NSFW' is the creation of muddle headed clowns.
mortonjag 2009-02-02 22:18:39
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 2 2009, 10:06 PM) [snapback]573372[/snapback]
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That little smartarse is alluding to the fact that mortonjag is not an avid believer in 'one off' meetings in Inverclyde, Sean.

As I said, I'm getting good vibes about Stuart's intentions, but I've always taken issue with the attitude that joining the Trust gives the fans a stronger voice-as things stand.. That's why I'm hoping that Stuart can in some measure influence Mr Rae on a one to one basis. Perhaps there is still hope that he can become more fan orientated.

Hopefully in a year or two we may have a different Chairman in place-one who will be willing to incorporate the Trust's investment actively both in terms of finance and the way the club is run.
mortonjag 2009-02-02 22:26:44
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 2 2009, 10:11 PM) [snapback]573376[/snapback]
They are paid to work during working hours. Everyone is legally entitled to breaks.

Please, don't try and twist things to work for you smile.gif



QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 2 2009, 10:19 PM) [snapback]573379[/snapback]
And what were you blighting on earlier about stereotypes? Going back on your word...Mortonjag, MSP for NaebodyCaires West speaks once more happy.gif



Listen son-you're just a wean -wet behind the ears- straight out of some jumped up college with a two bit degree- and 'working' with Glasgow Cooncil-the biggest shower of skivers known to man! ph34r.gif

Don't bother digging yourself any deeper-you've about as much experience as a snowball in hell, and you presume to lecture mortonjag!

Go-get an effin' life! laugh.gif

mortonjag 2009-02-03 07:12:36
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 2 2009, 10:56 PM) [snapback]573392[/snapback]
But Stuart is right, to have a stronger voice we need to have a stronger backing, and am sure you would agree with that.

One voice that truely represents the fans as a whole, not just one supporters club or group

I have never argued that a larger proportion of shares equated to a weaker voice. What I have pointed out is that the Trust, as things stand, may accumulate shares till it's blue in the face, but has so far failed to cut a sliver of ice with Rae who can and will inevitably still want to 'call the shots'.

That is why I have in the past been so scathing about the Trust, and in particular about Stuart's apparently blinkered obsession with 'shares'. In terms of liaison between God and fan, I still believe that Jim McColl has much to answer for. Maybe I'm too hard on him, but if it was SO bloody difficult, is Mr Duncan really going to have any more joy?

Things have apparently changed. Stuart IS now the fans representative on the Board-something Trust members would do well to digest. He has a mandate to address the issues of all fans. He must grasp that nettle.

It is my sincere belief that if our new director can successfully wear two hats in this respect, the Trust may for the first time make an impression where it really matters. If I see that happening I'll certainly think about 'investing' in something which up till now has been a toothless bulldog.
mortonjag 2009-02-03 07:26:28
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 3 2009, 12:07 AM) [snapback]573411[/snapback]
So, on holiday then. laugh.gif

Effectively Peter, but not happily so.

Unlike Glasgow City Cooncil where it's common knowledge that 'work' is a contradiction in terms, and taxpayers money is laughingly frittered away with gay abandon, my Partner's employers have to compete with market forces, and to that end have become a little more Draconian in their attitude to staff 'misusing' computers. mellow.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 08:00:48
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Feb 3 2009, 12:23 AM) [snapback]573412[/snapback]
There's a very fine line between what we already do for (mostly) oncology patients who are dying (continuous infusions of drugs to sedate them and relieve pain, which almost inevitably leads to respiratory depression and thus a speedier death than may have happened naturally) and 'physician assisted suicide', as the Yanks call it.

But it's the intention that's different and that to me is important. I don't prescribe massive doses of morphine and midazolam to kill patients, I do it because they're in pain and distressed.

Palliative medicine in this country is massively underfunded and that, imo, should be addressed before we move any closer to legalising PAS.

I don't know enough about this case to comment.


I agree with the first half of that sentence but not with the second. I guess you're mainly looking at it from an oncological angle, where early death is inevitable. I'm equally concerned about conditions like Parkinson's, Motor Meurone Disease, MS, and several other neurological conditions, where death is NOT in sight, but earnestly sought.
mortonjag 2009-02-03 08:12:44
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 3 2009, 07:59 AM) [snapback]573426[/snapback]
I've always liked "face like a welder's bench" for some reason.

She's got a coupon like a coo's erse!
mortonjag 2009-02-03 08:13:49
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 3 2009, 08:11 AM) [snapback]573432[/snapback]
The horror!

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mortonjag 2009-02-03 08:14:42
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 3 2009, 06:41 AM) [snapback]573421[/snapback]
"THE ONLY official record of who voted in the Glenrothes by-election that rocked the political world has mysteriously gone missing placing a question mark over the result.

Candidates and their agents are allowed to see a copy of the register, which records only who voted and not how they voted.

However, after repeated requests for the document last month, Councillor John Beare, the convener of the SNP Central Fife constituency, has been told that it has gone missing."

Surprise surprise. This sounds extremely dodgy indeed !

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mortonjag 2009-02-03 08:15:40
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 3 2009, 08:14 AM) [snapback]573437[/snapback]
I'm a good poster, so yes...yes it is.

Definition? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 08:17:41
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 3 2009, 08:14 AM) [snapback]573435[/snapback]
I'd almost agree with you, if it wasn't for the fact that for all the non-work that gets done (oh the work gets done...just badly) it seems to be my team that has to come in and sort out all their fvck ups.

Believe me, I have to work my 4rse off in there, as well as those around me. All due to the fact they have one of the poorest procurement programmes ever put in place. And all the issues that come up surrounding it..well who has to sort it?

And that is additional to what we normally do! It's not unusual for me to have to stay in late in order to get stuff done.

Ah you and your little stereotypes smile.gif

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Power to your elbow young man. Maybe somebody else will ban the use of computers for amusement and make your job a wee bit easier!
mortonjag 2009-02-03 08:20:21
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 3 2009, 08:09 AM) [snapback]573429[/snapback]
What the little smartarse is actually alluding to is how you sh1te out of every possible opportunity to have your views heard and put your thoughts across.

You'll learn sooner or later Jag, you do not have the respect on here any more since the whole "I was in London for for the Q and A...oh wait..no I wasn't...wait, was I? No wait, I'm just not an avid believe in 'one off' meetings". That your new little excuse is it?

More back tracking and covering up than any politician! laugh.gif

Sometimes you would do well to think before you post son. Why would I crave 'respect' from a shower of lemmings?
mortonjag 2009-02-03 08:49:57
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 3 2009, 08:28 AM) [snapback]573445[/snapback]
Not going to mention any other of the points I made?

I didn't think so happy.gif

Mortonjag MSP strikes again!

Unfortunately I have to go to work now, but if you could pass comment on what I have said above that would be just delightful unsure.gif

Needing your wheelie bin dealt with again, I'll stick in a good word for you wink.gif

You made no points-merely fancifully allegations. I understand that many were bitterly disappointed by my non arrival-such is the obsession with Mortonjag, of this massage board's infants.

In fairness, one cannot blame you for your curiosity! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 08:52:41
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 3 2009, 08:18 AM) [snapback]573440[/snapback]
I follow basic netiquette, as does 99.9% of posters here.

Including yourself!

You're just a bad poster for many other reasons wink.gif

Do.

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 3 2009, 08:31 AM) [snapback]573446[/snapback]
Personally I think we should pay for the rebooting of said PC that has went mad and make sure it is allowed the reintegrate fully in to society. If we do that there will be no chance it shall go mad again!

Gone.

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mortonjag 2009-02-03 09:01:03
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 3 2009, 08:19 AM) [snapback]573441[/snapback]
If they ever did that I feel you'd be first to jump off a building!

...and when will you learn. If I'm posting on the forum during work hours I am 1 - on my break, 2 - not at my desk but in the canteen at the web portal they have set up happy.gif
Just like any politician, intentions seem clear but when it comes down to it...will just say whatever they want to get their point heard.

When you next at Holyrood?

If the cooncil in it's infinite wisdom wastes MY money by allowing 'employees' to play games, I suggest they make them hook up their own bloody machines to the portal, instead of expecting anonymous hard pressed Mods to act as unpaid 'filters'! mad.gif

QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 3 2009, 08:41 AM) [snapback]573449[/snapback]
That's what I call a result...

That's what I call compliance with employment law! The outcome is in the balance.
mortonjag 2009-02-03 09:04:24
QUOTE(centralTON @ Feb 3 2009, 08:50 AM) [snapback]573453[/snapback]
That depends, are you offering?

Next you'll be telling me that you have some magical cream dispenser for my saddle sores. tongue.gif

Edit to add, I'm going to the 'Shire game on Saturday, weather permitting, will report back on Stevenson and Graham.

I refuse nothing but blows Central-any port in a storm they say! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 09:22:03
QUOTE(Muz @ Feb 3 2009, 09:08 AM) [snapback]573464[/snapback]
Another thread ruined by Mortonjag.

Really!

Well here's your original post!

Anyone see the pic of her in the Sun and Record today?

My god.

I think I may be in love.

I've looked around for it to include a link but cant find it. Maybe someone else can.

She's a wee minx.


It specifically alluded to links to pictures of bums. Somebody posted a link which was immediately jumped on as 'NSFW', and from there the thread developed!

If you'd like me to research, I'll find you several nice 'bum' links this morning, and we can mutually shag them rid raw by proxy.

Trouble is Muz-they might be deemed 'NSFW'! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 09:24:21
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 3 2009, 08:50 AM) [snapback]573452[/snapback]
Hmm. I wonder why this would go missing? It couldn't be that someone doesn't want someone else to examine it and find out how many people apparently voted despite being, say, dead. Or how many people who say they didn't vote are recorded as having voted by post.

I was told by someone who has all the inside info on such things that it was taken for granted that Labour would, and did, cheat, but that in his view they may well have won anyway even without cheating. The margin of victory certainly raised eyebrows and it was significant that Labour thought they had lost right up until moments before the result was announced.

I think we are all savvy enought to realise that Labour, who have previous, would do "whatever it takes" (copyright G. Brown) to avoid defeat in a constituency in which G. Brown has a home.

PS Tom: you may try to pour scorn on this story, but electoral fraud has happened before and is strongly suspected of having occurred at Glenrothes.

Hearsay.
mortonjag 2009-02-03 09:30:07
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 3 2009, 09:18 AM) [snapback]573466[/snapback]
Au contraire. Very disappointed with MrsT's implication that this board is "a bunch of perves" and we would be "eyeing her up".

With no disrespect to MJ, it was hardly porn material he was posting. He posted two pictures of his good lady, one fully clothed in bikers gear, and the other showing off her face.

Certainly nothing to perve over, attractive and all as she is. Same would go for any of us posting a pic of the women in their lives.

For shame MrsT. By the same implication, can we assume then that anytime a picture of one of the male posters on this board is included in a thread, you immediately make for the bedroom and start flicking the bean ?

I think we should be told .......

TonInDublin

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mortonjag 2009-02-03 09:40:08
QUOTE(Muz @ Feb 3 2009, 09:38 AM) [snapback]573474[/snapback]
The NSFW was a picture of her tits.



What do you think about the concept of 'NSFW'?
mortonjag 2009-02-03 09:45:31
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 2 2009, 07:14 PM) [snapback]573243[/snapback]
How old is your dog MJ ? How long do they normally live ?

She's an ex racer and is four years of age. Greyhounds normally live into their teens-some can last to seventeen or eighteen, though I guess twelve or thirteen is about the norm.

QUOTE(EBu @ Feb 3 2009, 09:36 AM) [snapback]573473[/snapback]
My mother in law got a Greyhound from there (I assume its the rescue center at Langbank?) a few months ago after her Lurcher passed away.

Harry eats like a horse and is pretty mental, but has a really good temperament!

Not many people would be willing to take a dog of that size on so good on you!

I'll stick to my wee mongrel Labrador cross though! smile.gif


My first dog (I got him when I was nine) was a wee mongrel and the most loyal pet I've ever had. He was knocked down and killed when he was sixteen. sad.gif

Is this Harry?

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mortonjag 2009-02-03 09:49:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 3 2009, 09:39 AM) [snapback]573475[/snapback]
Well let's hope he keeps 'buffing' away, at least until some other 'ego polisher' comes along, because without the old buffer's money we'd be in deep doo doo - excrement estuary without the proverbial paddle - unless of course your hero AD opts to stick his oar in. biggrin.gif

Would you be surprised to learn that AD had already done a fair bit of bailing out of the good ship Shoogly? blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 09:52:48
QUOTE(Muz @ Feb 3 2009, 09:48 AM) [snapback]573480[/snapback]
Open a thread and discuss it. I'm only interested in Lily Allen's arse in this one.

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AH-we're getting to the real truth now. Mortonjag ruined the thread because he didn't confine his attentions to Lily Allen's arse.

Well Muz, I think she has a rather attractive little posterior, and that's about it. How did you envisage the thread developing? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 10:50:43
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 3 2009, 09:50 AM) [snapback]573482[/snapback]
Yes. Go on then surprise me.

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I was merely asking an open question!

Don't you think it's possible?
mortonjag 2009-02-03 10:53:46
QUOTE(Muz @ Feb 3 2009, 10:06 AM) [snapback]573485[/snapback]
I think about her arse a lot.

I envisaged the thread developing with some lovely pics. It was to benefit like minded individuals who share a passion for her arse.

That's all. I'm still thinking about it today. A lot.

Are you-erm-short of arses to admire in the privacy of your own home? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 10:55:26
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 3 2009, 10:31 AM) [snapback]573494[/snapback]
PC gone mad.EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDShe looks like she could sook two of those batons at once!
mortonjag 2009-02-03 10:58:07
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 3 2009, 10:49 AM) [snapback]573498[/snapback]
I'm off work sick - well off work but logged in online on doing a lot of other stuff - so much for sick days.

Anyhoos, the dog is lying up beside me here - and as much as she can be a pain in the arse at times, she is great company, and is really starting to get her own personality (she's six months now).

My daughter picked her name, so I'm stuck wih Lily, but what can you do.
Thoroughbred West Highland Terrier, but the nature of any mongrel I've ever come across.

TonInDublin

A feisty wee terrier called Lily-I DO hope Muz doesn't clock this thread or he'll be wanting pictures of its erse! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 11:01:04
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 3 2009, 10:58 AM) [snapback]573503[/snapback]
You're just being silly. Everybody knows Elvis votes SNP.

...but Bawheid just blanks 'It's now or never'!
mortonjag 2009-02-03 11:08:14
QUOTE(Muz @ Feb 3 2009, 11:03 AM) [snapback]573506[/snapback]
I live myself.

There is a rather nice arse which frequents the place from time to time, but when she's not there I do think of Lily's, amongst others.

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I understand! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 11:09:44
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 3 2009, 11:05 AM) [snapback]573507[/snapback]
Possible but not probable.

Because Shoogly has refused help? blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 11:11:21
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 3 2009, 11:08 AM) [snapback]573509[/snapback]
MEDIA RELEASE
The Scottish Football League and BBC ALBA today announced a package of three live televised First Division games over the next few months.

The televised games will take place on Sundays with kick-off times at 3.15 p.m. An announcement regarding the end of season Play-Off matches will be made in due course.

The agreement represents another step forward for the Scottish Football League, securing live broadcast of First Division matches, and reflects BBC ALBA’s commitment to televise a range of sports.

BBC ALBA is a partnership between the BBC and MG ALBA, the Gaelic Media Service.

David Longmuir, chief executive of the SFL, said: “MG ALBA has been an excellent broadcast partner since it became sponsor of The Challenge Cup last year.

“I am delighted that the new TV channel recognises the excitement, passion and community values that the Scottish Football League can offer, and I look forward to developing this relationship in the months ahead.â€

Alan Esslemont, head of content for BBC ALBA, said: “We are very pleased to be able to offer excellent live SFL fixtures to viewers. These games will enhance our comprehensive sports package which already includes the ‘as-live’ televising of SPL matches on Saturday nights.â€
The First Division games selected for Sunday live coverage are as follows:
Sunday, 22nd February
Airdrie United v. Clyde

Sunday, 22nd March
Partick Thistle v. Dundee

Sunday, 19th April
St. Johnstone v. Queen of the South
BBC ALBA will be available on Sky channel 168 and on Freesat channel 110.

LINK TO STOLEN POST


I can understand a teuchter bunch screening Dundee and St. Johnstone, but Erdry v Clyde is odd!
mortonjag 2009-02-03 11:16:41
QUOTE(Muz @ Feb 3 2009, 11:13 AM) [snapback]573513[/snapback]
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The benefits of living alone, or one of them!

I know- I did it for nine years after my ex kicked me out. It can have disadvantages too!
mortonjag 2009-02-03 11:21:22
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 3 2009, 11:18 AM) [snapback]573517[/snapback]
It's truly amazing - some of the stuff that people get upset over.

To clarify the facts .......

Labour won Glenrothes with 55% of the vote, SNP were second with 36.5%. Majority about 6500.
In the General Election Labour won 51% of the vote, SNP second with 23.5%. Majority about 10,500.

Glenrothes is, and probably always will be, a Labour stronghold. In the by-election the SNP made huge gains into the Lib Dem and Tory vote, but never made major inroads into the Labour hard core support.

Disappointing for sure, but what's not to understand. Reminds me of Greenock for as long as I remember when Dickhead Mabon strolled in every time, despite the state of the country.

So unless there was 6500 hanging chads, then it's time to get real and grow up.

Labour held a seat they'll probably always hold.

Unless of course you want to waste your precious energy, and indeed your efforts to turn people from the Labour cause to the SNP cause, by stating that 6500 deid people turned up to swing the day. Yet not one of these "live" deid people who gerrymandered this result has said a word. You couldn't make this s*** up.

It truly is laughable. And childish. And we should be well above this type of s***e.

TonInDublin


The Anglophile originator appears to be in hiding! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 11:34:05
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 3 2009, 11:21 AM) [snapback]573518[/snapback]
As a concept I have very little problem with PC. I see no reason why anyone should use pejorative terms for those who are not like themselves. I tend to think those who have the biggest problems with PC are those who have an embattled sense of themselves.
My problem is with the people who work in the public sector, usually leftists of some persuasion, who ‘feel’ offence for minority groups when those groups take no offence themselves. ‘Baa Baa Black Sheep’ is a good example of this. Now the history of the song is uncertain but it was certainly a political satire rumoured to be about tax on the wool industry by either Edward 1 or 2. Now there’s an irony, leftists getting all muddled and condemning a song that satires the King. That’s a bit like supporting fascists in the middle east rather than womens groups or socialists. rolleyes.gif


If the truth be told, most people who 'push' political correctness have a vested interest in the propagation of the loonball growth industry.

Then there is a smaller group of Holy Willies/Wilmas and frustrated polispeople laugh.gif who plague, for example, unofficial footie forums.

I agree with your original comment Peter, but many 'non PC'. terms are neither pejorative nor intended to be, yet
the pursuit of political correctness seems never ending.

There may be some chinks in my argument, but in general my points tally up.
mortonjag 2009-02-03 11:36:37
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 3 2009, 11:25 AM) [snapback]573520[/snapback]
Absolutely right. There are areas of Scotland, East Kilbride is one, where the proverbial monkey in a red rosette would win the seat.
Funny, every time Alibi and Col post about politics I a little part of me thinks what kind of Scotland do they want post independence? I am genuinely curious.

...that they're talking balls?
mortonjag 2009-02-03 11:38:29
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 3 2009, 11:30 AM) [snapback]573524[/snapback]
I say possible even though there is no evidence in the club's acccounts to date. I say not probable because I don't think AD has handed over 'unaccountable' suitcases full of cash. biggrin.gif

So Shoogly's buying the Midden cast off and can't afford a winger? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 11:40:28
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 3 2009, 11:33 AM) [snapback]573526[/snapback]
I get it. Child psychology. State what you don't want, whilst standing with your erect lad in your hand, dreaming of the complete opposite.

That's cool.

TonInDublin

Is Boozy REALLY a pouffe?
mortonjag 2009-02-03 12:20:05
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 3 2009, 12:06 PM) [snapback]573547[/snapback]
I think you'll find your money is not wasted seeing as breaks are not exactly paid for. And I check this bored on a battered and old computer in the canteen.

...so aye...Lily Allen eh? wub.gif

Coming from a putative accountant, I find that comment utterly risible! blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 12:23:43
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 3 2009, 11:56 AM) [snapback]573538[/snapback]
My source re the postal vote business is a reliable one who is at a high level in the SNP. He told me that they were aware that there was fiddling going on, particularly with the postal votes as has been done by Labour elsewhere (I believe that there have been prosecutions and convictions although not in Scotland yet), but that in his opinion Labour would probably have won the seat anyway without having to fiddle the voting - just that they would have had a much smaller majority. The major factor was more likely to be the issue of care charges where Labour put forward a bit of a scare story which should have been refuted and wasn't - it turned out that Labour councils were charging even more for home care than was the case in Fife.

Re what kind of Scotland I want: an independent one where we can make our own decisions on everything including defence and foreign policy, and where we have a fair society and a better society; where we can make our own mistakes and deal with them; I'm not a socialist but I think I would describe myself as a broad spectrum social democrat. I don't believe any one group on the right-left spectrum has all the best ideas.

To me, independence is the natural, default position. To be ruled from Westminster is just self-evidently wrong. I can see the point of being in Europe because at least in Europe everyone is a minority and no one group or nation has more than 50% of the voting power; in Westminster Scotland's interests can always be over-ridden by the huge majority who will always put England's interests first. They're not our enemies, but by the same token we shouldn't have to agree with what they want all the time.



To get back on topic, electoral fraud happens. For records to get lost may just be carelessness, but there is a suspicion that embarrassing documents on a lot of matters seem to be getting shredded "accidentally" on a regular basis, too frequent an occurrence not to be, on some occasions at least, deliberate.


I empathise-I still hold a fair bit of 'classified' information about our beloved football club, and I can't reveal my sources OR the information! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 12:27:04
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 3 2009, 12:08 PM) [snapback]573550[/snapback]
Ooooh I must have made a good and valid point again if my grammar gets pulled up happy.gif


Don't be daft-the minute you ever make a valid point I'll be the first to acknowledge it. I'm beginning to think you do those thinks to torment me-like a wean crapping its nappy the minute it's been changed.

Anyway-shouldn't you be working, or are you still on your paid for break? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 12:32:55 My Dad who died a couple of years ago at the age of 85 always carried a penknife in his trouser pocket-something he'd done since he was a boy. It had many, many uses, though latterly mainly for peeling apples, as the skins stuck under his dentures, and the dog loved the peelings.
I always carried a scalpel to and from work-albeit safely tucked away in my case.
mortonjag 2009-02-03 12:35:45
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 3 2009, 12:26 PM) [snapback]573557[/snapback]
You just want to keep us all in suspenders.

I'd get you out of your suspenders and onto my examination couch tout de suite Mr Edwards! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 12:37:50
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 3 2009, 11:43 AM) [snapback]573531[/snapback]
If that's the case then I think the priority is right. Improving the stadium at good value for money will stand us in good stead for some time to come; spending money on a player may or may not have an impact. If the money is coming from AD, and I've no idea if it is or isn't, then I'd imagine an investor would prefer to see his money spent on property rather than being swallowed up by employee wages.

Or could it be that Shoogly could afford a winger but not the Midden's rust heap?
mortonjag 2009-02-03 12:40:09
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 3 2009, 12:37 PM) [snapback]573565[/snapback]
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I'm reporting you to the mods.

Oh dear Barbie-I could SWEAR they're teuchters! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 12:41:09
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Feb 3 2009, 11:54 AM) [snapback]573533[/snapback]
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........................or try him in a different role?

He'd make good competition for that lethargic pussy! huh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 12:43:44
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 3 2009, 12:09 PM) [snapback]573551[/snapback]
You have the ego of a politician as well.

However, my honourable friend, you have nothing else. wink.gif

I am not honourable and you are not my friend. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 12:46:28
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 3 2009, 12:43 PM) [snapback]573573[/snapback]
I had to leave my dogs with the olds when I moved out (wouldn't be fair to keep them in a flat when my dad has a huge garden) and it's amazing how much you miss their company. Cats are crap though.

Cats are certainly different. I'd have a dog every time given the choice, but I still enjoy stroking a warm pussy.
mortonjag 2009-02-03 12:52:02
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 3 2009, 11:55 AM) [snapback]573537[/snapback]
No question.

Many's the night himself, Jordan'sRightTit and StuB plugged each other senseless.

They even befouled the Spinny lavvy one night.

TonInDublin

So that Trick thing! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 12:56:31
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 3 2009, 12:53 PM) [snapback]573581[/snapback]
I agree although my old man get's "Mexican" cheese which is dynamite, especially on toast. To me it seems to be a decent cheddar but with peppers and chillies through it - cracking.

Those speciality cheeses are great but very expensive. Just finely chop a couple of chillies and sprinkle on top!
mortonjag 2009-02-03 13:00:15
QUOTE(Loveless @ Feb 3 2009, 12:58 PM) [snapback]573583[/snapback]
I agree these people might be "carrying knives", but they will most likely be as part of a tool or instrument kit and not as a loan instrument.

An electrician is unlikely to walk to someone's house at night to carry out a repair armed only with a knife.

I'm not so sure-ask Barbie! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 13:43:59
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 3 2009, 01:36 PM) [snapback]573591[/snapback]
I don't know. I'd rather Allan Jenkins took McGuffie's place in the team. tongue.gif

Guff is far from purrfect, and indeed Jenks should get a wee shot. Having said that, I suspect that an analysis of the former's contributions would demonstrate that he actually contributes much more than many perceive!
mortonjag 2009-02-03 13:51:32
QUOTE(Loveless @ Feb 3 2009, 01:24 PM) [snapback]573589[/snapback]
I agree political correctness has gone far too far in this country. But I'd honestly be suprised if anyone attempted to defend the rights of this man. If they do, they're mentally ill.


London, January 31: A paedophile in the UK has filed a lawsuit against a prison claiming breach of his human rights because there is no toilet in his cell.


If the lack of toilet facilities IS in breach of human rights (the authorities claim it is not), I'd venture to suggest that he's perfectly entitled to complain whether he's a paedo or an innocent wee soul who's been stitched up by the polis.

Anybody who attempted to defend the crime of which he was convicted might well be considered mentally ill-just like the perpetrator.
mortonjag 2009-02-03 13:54:00
QUOTE(Muz @ Feb 3 2009, 01:49 PM) [snapback]573593[/snapback]
Explain.

I imagine the young man may have totally misunderstood your interest in the said botty. He probably wouldn't know a line drawing from a poke of chips.
mortonjag 2009-02-03 14:17:11
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 3 2009, 02:15 PM) [snapback]573601[/snapback]
I'd rather the games are televised than not though. They're not out to attract EPL fans, it's for SFL teams' fans who can't attend every game and is quite welcome, even with Gaelic commentators.

I take it you can get that channel on a standard digibox?
mortonjag 2009-02-03 14:23:34
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 3 2009, 02:21 PM) [snapback]573606[/snapback]
Fixed that for you ph34r.gif

Everybody should be entitled to use the 'little boys' room'.
mortonjag 2009-02-03 14:29:02
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 3 2009, 02:24 PM) [snapback]573609[/snapback]
If you are a connoisseur of cheese then you should try ordering a cheeseboard in a French restaurant. A bloody education. Does it form part of their education curriculum? blink.gif

'French restaurant', or 'Restaurant'? blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 14:37:45
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 3 2009, 02:34 PM) [snapback]573616[/snapback]
I eat chillies with everything except dessert. I like ice cream chilly though.

Indeed, it saves soiling ones bib I'd imagine.
mortonjag 2009-02-03 14:41:52
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 3 2009, 02:38 PM) [snapback]573619[/snapback]
Yep, you shouldn't have any problems if you have a Sky digibox. smile.gif

OOPS-I meant a freeview digibox-I don't really understand those things. We've got a communal dish (though the dog will be made to use her bowl) and used to subscribe to Sky. Now it's just a cheapie freeview box! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 14:54:20 It did latterly become something of a freak show-they seemed to be trying to introduce more and more 'off the wall' stuff in an attempt to keep up the ratings.

I still remember the series when the holy willie guy from up North won it-that lot seemed reasonably normal.
mortonjag 2009-02-03 15:05:47
QUOTE(hayfever @ Feb 2 2009, 01:47 AM) [snapback]572848[/snapback]
It was the hottest week in 100 years here in Melbourne last week, three of the hottest days ever on record in Melbourne as well. Possums were literally dropping dead out of the trees...mental. It hasn't however stopped gigantic spiders from appearing in my room though wacko.gif


I was sent pictures today of a little koala who was so hot and thirsty that he wandered into a certain poster's porch!





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mortonjag 2009-02-03 16:08:19
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 3 2009, 04:06 PM) [snapback]573651[/snapback]
BTT, surely the bulldug phrase is "a face like a bulldug chewin' wasps".

Don't mention bulldogs for God's sake-it'll drive the arch Anglophile Spurtle into another rendition of the National Anthem!
mortonjag 2009-02-03 16:10:07
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Feb 3 2009, 03:18 PM) [snapback]573631[/snapback]
If you are talking about Newton, why does he not post on here anymore? unsure.gif

I am, and I don't know. I think he's in the process of getting a book published and may be too busy.
mortonjag 2009-02-03 16:13:08
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Feb 3 2009, 03:27 PM) [snapback]573638[/snapback]
Because they like it, and it tastes and smells like fish? rolleyes.gif

There are other well documented fishy smells Mrs T, and they don't come from feet! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 16:15:15
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 3 2009, 03:29 PM) [snapback]573641[/snapback]
I think for no one but myself wink.gif
...and I was on a break at the time. Legally requried you see. PC gone mad I reckon!

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mortonjag 2009-02-03 16:17:45
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Feb 3 2009, 03:30 PM) [snapback]573642[/snapback]
Have you got a job? unsure.gif I've never heard you mentioning that before. ph34r.gif

You must be corned beef Mrs T-he's now the Chief Accountant in Glesca City Cooncil, who plays with an ancient computer during his multiple unpaid tea breaks! blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 16:20:28
QUOTE(Thrax @ Feb 3 2009, 04:15 PM) [snapback]573659[/snapback]
where do they come from? unsure.gif wink.gif

The pictorial answer would undoubtedly be deemed NSFW even if purely schematic and anatomical.
mortonjag 2009-02-03 16:21:46
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 3 2009, 04:20 PM) [snapback]573661[/snapback]
Great idea and we're working on it. At the moment we're inclusive but won't be all inclusive until every Morton Supporter joins. biggrin.gif

Where will the Glasgow branch be situated?
mortonjag 2009-02-03 16:26:05
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 3 2009, 04:23 PM) [snapback]573664[/snapback]
In Dr Mentaljag's surgery, where else.

Alas, it is no more.
mortonjag 2009-02-03 18:51:59
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 3 2009, 06:39 PM) [snapback]573705[/snapback]
It's still a 'Sky' box then, darling. Go to channel 168 and it should pop up. wink.gif smile.gif

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Thank you.
mortonjag 2009-02-03 18:56:37
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 3 2009, 04:14 PM) [snapback]573657[/snapback]
Please tell him I was asking for him Ernie.

One of the most intelligent, misunderstood posters on the board.

TonInDublin


Will do-most of his posts were giraffe's baws for the riff raff! laugh.gif


QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 3 2009, 04:29 PM) [snapback]573668[/snapback]
In your hoose then.


C'mon Mr E., do you thing I live in Buckingham Palace? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 19:03:07
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 3 2009, 04:48 PM) [snapback]573672[/snapback]
I agree with WDE. The whole BJFBW has become, if not racist, at least a bit xenophobic. Anyway, I'm not British so I'm not going to be standing on any picket lines for that particular cause.

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SEZ WHO?
mortonjag 2009-02-03 19:05:35
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Feb 3 2009, 05:38 PM) [snapback]573688[/snapback]
Good points Puggs. I wish I had the opportunity to have gone on a subcrawl before I gave up drinking. I intend staying sober for a year and then I'll see how I feel about it. Perhaps I could go a subcrawl with you sometime in 2010 if I go back on the drink.

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One year at a time! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 19:10:42
QUOTE(leyTON @ Feb 3 2009, 06:06 PM) [snapback]573695[/snapback]
its not s***e
unless you have a phrase such as "carrying a knife without due cause", which to me increases needless ambiguity, and, this is a fact, a members bill would most likely not be allowed to list every potential trade that would be exempt.
on a footnote, this bill would probably not have the votes to pass ion parliament. personally, i dont think labours top brass will back it

It may not be shite, but it is faeces-or to put it differently:

When is a 'knife' not a knife?
mortonjag 2009-02-03 19:15:21
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 3 2009, 05:07 PM) [snapback]573679[/snapback]
I just like reminding the Jag that he pays for me...it feels nice smile.gif
I said legally earned tea breaks...and unpaid lunch rolleyes.gif

And you are right...this thing runs on Windows ME! I Mean...c'mon, what are your taxes paying for?!?!?!

We're STILL awaiting a new wheelie bin! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Feb 3 2009, 06:43 PM) [snapback]573707[/snapback]
Lily Allen is not attractive.

Fair enough she seems to have a well-presented backside but I'm amazed that this has stretched to five pages - it's hardly a new thing. An exceptional arse has been posted on this messageboard over 28,000 times since July 2005.

..and you're still trying to get a hard on.
mortonjag 2009-02-03 19:28:42
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 3 2009, 07:11 PM) [snapback]573720[/snapback]
i will return wink.gif

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mortonjag 2009-02-03 19:33:59
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 3 2009, 07:15 PM) [snapback]573723[/snapback]
Absolutely. Manners and conduct are the bedrock of a civilised society.

What about love and empathy?
mortonjag 2009-02-03 19:57:33
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 3 2009, 07:55 PM) [snapback]573738[/snapback]
i concur. the spl holds very little interest to me. i don't even know half the feckin players

How many ex Morton players are now with SPL sides? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 21:31:24
QUOTE(Loveless @ Feb 3 2009, 08:43 PM) [snapback]573745[/snapback]
Also important.

Just to clarify what I mean, I hate the whole "P.C. gone mad thing" more than anyone, but some people's solution can be just as vulgar.

We now have an "anti-PC" brigade who think it's ok to say or do anything they think they should be able to do - in other words because they can - no matter how offensive it may be.

There is no worse reason to do or say anything than simply because one can.

Unless you've just recovered from laryngeal nerve palsy! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 21:36:14
QUOTE(piehutt @ Feb 3 2009, 09:03 PM) [snapback]573756[/snapback]
precisely.

I've long since given up reading his posts, but really I can't believe people still respond to him.
Just ignore him and he'll go away.

I'm sure your multiple fans will be hanging on your every word Piehole-and talking of holes-any luck yet?
mortonjag 2009-02-03 21:39:20
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 3 2009, 09:04 PM) [snapback]573757[/snapback]
Charlie Gordon is in good company in the Labour party sleeze train.

Here are some more dodgy gems from our Labour chums.... rolleyes.gif
April 2006 Cameron MacIntosh says he was offered Peerage for loan
April 2006 Peter Law’s 'peerage'
April 2006 Charles Clarke & the failed deportations
April 2006 John Prescott's Affair(s)
April 2006 Cherie Blair’s hairdressing bill
April 2006 - Jack McConnell under pressure over breaking the ministerial code of conduct by giving public backing to a luxury golf resort planned by Donald Trump which could prejudice the planning process for the development
April 2006 - Revealed that Jack McConnell met with furniture tycoon Robert Morris over compensation to relocate his factory on the route of the M74 extension. The £35million was more than double the original compensation offer
March 2006 - Defeated Labour MP Calum MacDonald gets publicly paid job as Forestry Commissioner
March 2006 Tessa Jowell & husband
March 2006 Peerages for Cash
March 2006 Prescott pays no Council tax
March 2006 Margaret Beckett’s Royal Flights
February 2006 Ken Livingstone loses Standards Board appeal over anti-Jewish remarks
October 2005 Blunkett resigns over links to DNA firm
October 2005 Cherie Gets £100,000 for “charity†speaking tour
October 2005 Stephen Byers apologies for lieing over Railtrack
September 2005 Michael Watson MSP jaimed for arson
August 2005 - Revealed that disgraced former Scottish Executive special adviser, Phil Chalmers, is heading up a bid by French IT firm Atos Origin to secure some of the ID card contracts
July 2005 - Defeated Labour MP David Stewart gets job with the publicly funded SCVO only two months after losing his seat
June 2005 Cherie Opens Shopping centre for Malaysian millionaire
June 2005 Labour MSP Ken MacIntosh resigns over non declaration of financial interests
June 2005 Cherie Blair cashes in on Tony’s Washington trip
May 2005 Birmingham Labour Party accused over post voting irregularities
April 2005 - Brian Wilson MP's final section on Register of Members' Interests shows directorships and advisory roles to renewable energy firms. As Energy Minister he promoted renewable energy
April 2005 - Revealed that Jack McConnell met with Labour donor Willie Haughey to discuss compensation on a land deal where the M74 would pass through Haughey's property. Initial compensation of £7.4 million rose to £16.5 million
March 2005 Labour charges £200 for candidate contact details
February 2005 Cherie Blair embarks on lucrative Australian speaking tour
January 2005 Candy Atherton’s researcher digs for gay Tory dirt
January 2005 - Jack McConnell fails to register a holiday at the Spanish villa of BBC broadcaster Kirsty Wark
January 2005 - Sarah Davidson, once an adviser to former Scottish secretary Helen Liddell, lands a £75,000-a-year job enforcing McConnell’s smoking ban. The new job was never advertised. She was the civil servant who presided over a £200m rise in the cost of Holyrood before taking a six-month sabbatical to travel round the world
December 2004 Oona King offered £10000 to bed Labour Euro MP
October 2004 - Revealed that 70% of Scottish quango appointees have links to the Labour party
August 2004 August 2004 - Former Edinburgh Labour Provost Eric Milligan appointed Scotland’s “welcome czar†to the tourism industry. Although not paid a salary he receives expenses to travel the world
June 2004 - Willie Haughey, who has donated hundreds of thousands of pounds to the Labour party, appointed to the post of chairman of Scottish Enterprise Glasgow.
May 2004 Lord Drayson’s company wins non competitive tender contract after £50,000 donation to Labour
May 2004 - Failed Labour candidate Hugh Raven, a former parliamentary assistant to Peter Peac***, the education minister, awarded a £23,415 contract as a board member of Scottish Natural Heritage
April 2004 Beverley Hughes resigns over Immigration scandal
February 2004 Labour criticised by Electoral Commission for late tendering of accounts
January 2004 - Revealed that Schlumberger hired disgraced special adviser Philip Chalmers to run the Scottish Tourist Board’s Visit Scotland website. The website is part of a Scottish Executive PFI contract
November 2003 Margaret Hodge forced to resign over libelling Demetrious Panton
September 2003 - Harry McGuigan, a leading Lanarkshire Labour councillor appointed as a member of the Scottish Children’s Reporter Administration board
August 2003 David Kelly commits suicide
August 2003 Chris Bryant pictured in briefs on Gaydar website
August 2003 - Defeated Labour MSP Iain Gray appointed as Alistair Darling's special adviser at a salary of £60,000
August 2003 - Failed Labour candidate Pat Kelly appointed to board of Scottish Water.
March 2003 Clive Betts MP employed rent boy in House of Commons office
December 2002 Cherie Blair apologises over links to conman Peter Foster
October 2002 - Lanarkshire Labour party hold a Red Rose Dinner attended by a notorious drug baron called Justin McAlroy
October 2002 - Forty-four constituency Labour parties in Scotland revealed to have failed to register agreements to accept regular donations from trades unions. Failure to do so is a criminal offence
September 2002 Labour MP Alan Meale in trouble over deportation case linked to donation
July 2002 Carphone Warehouse chairman claims Lord Levy tried to nobble a £1 million donation
June 2002 Ken Livingstone accused of manhandling his partner while drunk at a party
June 2002 Black Rod accuses Downing Street of trying to muscle in on Queen Mother's funeral
June 2002 Labour spin doctors accuse Paddington crash victim Pam Warren of being a Tory stooge
May 2002 Stephen Byers resigns from government after various scandals
May 2002 Tessa Jowell criticises Labour for accepting donation from Richard Desmond
March 2002 Lakshmi Mittal
March 2002 Donnygate Doncaster Labour scandal ends in prison for Labour councillors
February 2002 Arthur Andersen & donations to Labour
February 2002 Martin Sixsmith forced to resign by Stephen Byers
February 2002 Jo Moore resigns over ‘burying bad news’ email
January 2002 - Norman Murray, Labour councillor and former convenor of the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities, appointed board member of the Scottish Ambulance Service at £7,305 a year
January 2002 Labour spin doctors trash reputation of Rose Addis
January 2002 Enron accused of buying access to Labour after donation
December 2001 Keith Vaz criticised by Standards Commissioner over business links
December 2001 Nigel Griffiths and £40,000 office expenses
November 2001 Henry McLeish resigns as Scottish First Minister after office expense scandal
November 2001 November 2001 - Jack McConnell admits to affair with Labour party secretary who he tried to keep in situ by appealing to Labour MPs for funds. He says he has had no other affairs
July 2001 Hindujahs receive passports after Labour donation
May 2001 May 2001 - Robin Young, a former non-executive director of Bovis (construction managers of the Scottish Parliament) appointed as permanent secretary at the Department of Trade and Industry
April 2001 - Failed Labour candidate Keith Geddes appointed to board of Scottish Natural Heritage
January 2001 Buyer of Millennium Dome Robert Bourne accused over donation to Labour
January 2001 Peter Mandelson resigns for the second time
November 2000 Cherie Blair & Nannygate
July 2000 David Blunkett fails to declare income from rent on his Wimbledon home
June 2000 Geoffrey Robinson in trouble with Belgian tax authorities
June 2000 Lord Ali in trouble for using House of Lords as business address
April 2000 John Prescott fails to disclose benefit of Union owned flat
January 2000 Geoffrey Robinson faces fraud inquiry over Transtec
January 2000 Gordon Brown faces Inquiry over flat purchased from Maxwell ruins
January 2000 January 2000 - Police arrest Philip Chalmers, who earned £50,000-a-year as head of the Scottish Executive’s strategic communications unit, for being drunk at the wheel of his car in a red light district with a prostitute
October 1999 Ron Davies goes badger watching
October 1999 October 1999 - Failed Labour candidate Joan Aitken appointed as the Prisons Complaints Commissioner
September 1999 Scottish Labour Party lobbying scandal
July 1999 Ken Collins, former Labour MEP, appointed chairman of the Scottish Environment Protection Agency with a salary of £45,000
December 1998 Geoffrey Robinson resigns over loaning money to Mandelson
December 1998 Peter Mandelson resigns over Geoffrey Robinson loan
November 1998 Nick Brown admits paying for gay sex
October 1998 Ron Davies’s Moment of Madness on Clapham Common
July 1998 Downing Street adviser Roger Liddle investigatedover lobbying links
March 1998 Lord Irvine’s £650,000 of wallpaper
March 1998 Scottish Parliament building tendering process & construction
July 1999 Derek Draper & Lobbygate
August 1998 Robin Cook’s affair with Gaynor Regan exposed
November 1997 Bernie Eccleston’s £1 million donation investigated
May 1997 Mohammed Sarwar accused of bribery

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mortonjag 2009-02-03 22:22:20
QUOTE(stuart @ Feb 3 2009, 10:13 PM) [snapback]573788[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag

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What is his book going to be about please?

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Is about life in Scotland in the early 60s?

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Hope the old chap is doing well.

Well it COULD be the story of an ex pat who offered a substantial sum of money to help with youth development at his beloved fitba club, only to be sickened off by a dithering and manipulative old fud of a Chairman, but I gather it's more of a technical work.
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mortonjag 2009-02-03 22:31:07
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 3 2009, 10:23 PM) [snapback]573793[/snapback]
out of curiosity can you tell me who was personally abused as I don't recall anyone being named. unsure.gif

Do you think somebody may have recognised himself purely on a description?

Worse- maybe somebody THOUGHT he was being victimised when there was never such an intention.

Or ---perhaps emotive words were used which might have proved offensive to anybody who decided to find them so.

Mortonjag wonders if it would be worthwhile trawling back through some of the stuff that was aimed DIRECTLY at him by club insiders and totally ignored by Mods!

(Ratus Rex Magnus excluded)!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 22:50:32
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 3 2009, 10:36 PM) [snapback]573799[/snapback]
seems it's ok for some to hand out character assassinations but don't ever hit back even if you don't name them directly.

I've been following this thread with interest and amusement. I don't know any of the guys personally. It's quite obvious that feelings have been running high on both sides, but I can say quite categorically that I'm not aware of any SPECIFIC PERSON having been abused at any point.

It seems to me that it's the old story-be as nasty as you like, and when you feel you're losing, have a good old clype to the Mods!

Of course that may be completely inaccurate and is not intended to cause offence of any kind! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 23:02:07
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 3 2009, 10:53 PM) [snapback]573804[/snapback]
Actually heard a wee story tonight Mr E (unconfirmed of course rolleyes.gif ). Apparently the register showed up some strange voting paterns.

For example, the document showed a pattern whereby everyone in an old folks home participated in this election, regardless of mental or physical health ohmy.gif

I do stress this is unconfirmed.........but interesting nontheless.

So far as I'm aware Spurtle, anybody on the electoral roll is perfectly entitled to vote 'regardless of mental or physical health'.

I, of course, would question the sanity of those who voted for Bawheid.

Your nose seems well and truly entrenched in a poke over the SNP's legitimate humping in Glenrothes. Has it occurred to you that the popularity of the current administration has already peaked?

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mortonjag 2009-02-03 23:05:13
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 3 2009, 10:57 PM) [snapback]573806[/snapback]
f***ity w**k pish dry.gif

How very DARE you-I have reported you to the Rat! You've taken this personal abuse one step too far you fucking apology for mutant pond life.
mortonjag 2009-02-03 23:18:18 Is this the same wee Jason who was regularly rubbished by a large number of our resident specialists? dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 23:19:27
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 3 2009, 11:14 PM) [snapback]573826[/snapback]
What personal abuse
I need a f***ing drink

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mortonjag 2009-02-03 23:20:44
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 3 2009, 11:17 PM) [snapback]573829[/snapback]
her face

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mortonjag 2009-02-03 23:22:08
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 3 2009, 11:18 PM) [snapback]573832[/snapback]
I would suggest that not being the case MJ. rolleyes.gif

The latest YouGov Poll finds Scottish Nationalists would extend their lead over Labour if Alex Salmond called a snap election.

The YouGov poll rated the first minister’s performance higher than that of any of the other party leaders, giving him an approval rating of +11, compared with -17 for Iain Gray, -19 for Tavish Scott and -25 for Patrick Harvie.

Salmond remains the most popular party leader with 35% of voters believing he would make the best first minister, compared with 15% for Gray, 11% for Annabel Goldie and 5% for Scott.

Could you explain that in plain ENGLISH? blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 23:25:19
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 3 2009, 11:22 PM) [snapback]573841[/snapback]
I have you the number and who to ask for wink.gif

Do you NEVER go home-I'm beginning to feel sorry for you! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 23:26:39
QUOTE(princessTON @ Feb 3 2009, 11:19 PM) [snapback]573833[/snapback]
yes rolleyes.gif

Another one who was well and truly f*cked by JM! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 23:35:03
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 3 2009, 11:27 PM) [snapback]573846[/snapback]
Of course I will MJ laugh.gif
WRONG AGAIN !!

Possibly Spurtle, but I happened to hear on extremely good authority that the yougov polls are a complete fiddle-indeed it's such common knowledge that I'm surprised your many informants have not kept you up to date.............and in breaking news, wee Nickerless is at the centre of the latest SNP money for favours scandal. It seems she's offered a leading Harley St. surgeon a six figure sum from party funds, to eradicate her hirsutism, but he declined, stating that surgery or no surgery, she'd still be a wee hairy.
mortonjag 2009-02-03 23:39:30
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 3 2009, 11:30 PM) [snapback]573850[/snapback]
I wonder if the post delete refers to the person(not naming names) who said openly that he would never support any other club in anything they do, and that all other clubs are travel sections not supporters clubs(how daft is that and childish), and openly bitching about other clubs on the road back from Dingwall, also bad mouthing a few clubs at a night in the club they run.

Time it was exposed, someone at a certain club has an issue with all other clubs, and is causing silly issues, time it was put to bed, am sick of it all.

I'll name the guy if needed, but its time the supporters club, that I will not name, realise a poison chalice, known to others for bitching and causing silly un-needed issues should be outed

Best it was all out in the open.

Morton fans need to get togther and be one, as it will be needed soon should Dougie move on.

I hate any cross club bitching, and realise only a minorty are causing it sad.gif

I hope the said person will turn up at the next Supporters Clubs Meetings, though he has never done it before(maybe cos it was held at another club) but is a senior member.

The said person needs to learn, his bitching is and will cause problems, and needs to stop when all other clubs are working togther.

Ok I will get crap for this post, but truth must be told.

Hopefuly most will see am posting it as I have witnessed it, not 3rd party etc.
I hate bitching, if anyone has a problem with me or my club, say to my face, I will engage in conversation to resolve that

My club is run by a few commitee members, we work hard to run our club right and make it successful, giving up our free time to do so, like every other club, so it sickens me to give my free time up for someone else to freely slag my club for no reason, knowing the time and effort put in by all for free, but slag it so wrongly, and only for (what else can I say) being a bitch. But not just my club but others too.

The person needs told.

OK MODS delete my post, but I have not named anyone or named any club, so its not my fault people put 2 and 2 together, am just sick of this s***.



Where is he headed Sean? blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 23:42:05
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 3 2009, 11:32 PM) [snapback]573854[/snapback]
...I am home huh.gif

Although not long in!

Are you ever not on here? tongue.gif

Yes.

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 3 2009, 11:38 PM) [snapback]573858[/snapback]
And back on topic before bed

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mortonjag 2009-02-03 23:46:58
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 3 2009, 11:40 PM) [snapback]573861[/snapback]
No need for that Jag... mellow.gif

OOOOOOOH-we are in serious mode tonight eh!

And what, pray, is this united band of fans going to achieve should Shoogly 'move on' as you put it.


FFS- I see Stuart left his bloody dog collar behind when he accepted the poisoned chalice! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-03 23:50:44
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 3 2009, 11:42 PM) [snapback]573863[/snapback]
I have told you before doc. Stay of the anticholinergics laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2009-02-03 23:54:53
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 3 2009, 11:51 PM) [snapback]573869[/snapback]
No one abuse anyone by name. emmm. Makes a mockery of it all

It's a shame really. I do agree with you that the fans should be united in support of Morton. I suppose it's only human nature that folk try to grab their own wee bit of authority and status and then defend it vigorously.


C'MON YE TON!
mortonjag 2009-02-03 23:57:44
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 3 2009, 11:31 PM) [snapback]573851[/snapback]
With good reason too tongue.gif

Aye-so that you could annoy the Princess.

Sad really. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-04 06:55:23
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Feb 1 2009, 02:12 PM) [snapback]572635[/snapback]
I agree with most of that, but NOTHING will change by itself. People just ain't interested in discussing euthanasia unless they have a vested interest and my sincere belief is that the establishment, and particularly established religion, has a great deal to answer for.

It would need a really high profile case with nationwide publicity before the 'public' could be persuaded to give the problems associated with assisted euthanasia more than a fleeting thought.

and to make that very point

caritas-aye right!

I have an uncomfortable feeling that the Holy Father himself, should he have the misfortune to endure a painful and protracted terminal illness (God forbid!!) would NOT be made to endure the sort of agony and indignity highlighted by this sad case.
mortonjag 2009-02-04 07:33:32
QUOTE(Toby @ Feb 4 2009, 01:03 AM) [snapback]573890[/snapback]
Yes, I can confirm I received a 10 point warning for my post earlier on today, although at no point did I mention anybody by name. Quite laughable really as the guy concerned, who to my knowledge doesn't post on here had my number within 2 hours and left me a voicemail although I was working so couldn't answer. He obviously knows who I'm talking about. Save the phone calls mate, you'll see me at Broadwood.

As regards never setting foot in the Morton Club again, to reply to Giz's PM, I decided this after the first Ross County away game this season. The morning after the night before I was informed of what was said on that journey in the company of and in the direction of friends of mine who didn't appreciate what they heard, nor should they have been spoken to about me in that manner. It would've been easy enough to bring any problems about me to my face as opposed to bringing others into it but clearly this isn't the way we operate at the GMSC. As well as this it is clear that I would not be a welcome face to certain individuals in the all inclusive Morton Club, whether I'm a Morton fan or not.

I've got a few friends and acquaintences in the Morton Club, and don't think any differently towards them personally, as is the case with many supporters' clubs. Sadly in this case, the few over rule the many.

Finally, let me point out that this is in no way me being involved in an argument between one club and another. I have no affiliation to either the GMSC, the POW or the Gourock and deliberately travel myself as I would never want a club to be tarred with having me as a member when I start on staff at Morton.

Thanks very much for the warning GKR, the amount of stuff that has been personally directed at mortonjag and I dare say others down the years and ignored compared to this, when at least I'm protecting the guy's anonymity makes a mockery of this board.


I'm assuming by that, that you've previously had no warnings and have gone straight to the status of 'one more and you'll be banned'! unsure.gif

If that is the case I agree with you that it is Draconian.

You at least have the baws to openly say what you think and believe, unlike some of our denizens of plankton pond who launch personal attacks under assumed names, and still clype when they can't take it back.

I haven't a bloody clue whom you apparently offended, Toby.

I'm not privy to the goings on in the supporters clubs, but as far as this pubic massage board goes, nobody knows it more comprehensively than I do-AND CERTAINLY NOT MODS WHO 'PEEP IN' FROM TIME TO TIME OR WHEN COMMANDED BY A VARIETY OF SNIVELLING CLYPES.

MY take is that your emotive and genuinely held opinion, openly expressed on this purportedly unofficial fans' forum with anonymity protected, has been seized on by someone who doesn't even contribute to it, and used to land punches below the belt.

If indeed he or she has also contacted you personally, I see no reason at all for clyping to the Mod -except to score points.

IMO the good Mod has been well and truly conned.


Now there's a first! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-04 08:05:11
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 4 2009, 07:22 AM) [snapback]573899[/snapback]
Not saying they shouldn't get a vote MJ. But I would find it very strange if it turned out ALL the pensioners from a particular care home ALL voted. rolleyes.gif

Special arrangements may have been made to facilitate their voting-perhaps they were transported en masse to the ballot box, and indeed a 'ballot box' may have been organised by proxy for those who could not travel.

I highly commend those experienced and valuable members of society for making the effort to fulfil what I assume they saw as a social responsibility. Who knows where their crosses landed?

I put it to you that Bawheid has made no bones about wishing to LOWER the voting age.

If the contributions to this massage board of our 'average' teenage poster are anything to go on, he clearly sees them as an easy touch-unlike those seasoned old battlers! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-04 08:11:55
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 4 2009, 06:55 AM) [snapback]573894[/snapback]
Largly because he was keech. rolleyes.gif

I'm beginning to think that I'll have to send you some labelled specimens of jobby Peter. You clearly cant tell keech from custard.

Walker had talent which was wasted at Cappielow.
mortonjag 2009-02-04 08:47:42 It's -5 C in the suburbs right now. I'd imagine the City Centre will be warmer! [attachment=5155:hit.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-04 08:57:18
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 4 2009, 08:54 AM) [snapback]573907[/snapback]
Nothing Tory about me, sunshine. The Tories in this country are all members of the Labour Party... Like I said, I don't fit into any pigeonhole on the traditional left-right spectrum.

We Scots have for generations worked abroad - one of the reasons why Scots are generally so well-liked in the Middle East is apparently that most of the ship's engineers that worked out there used to be Scots. We are known for our willingness to travel and adapt, even if the reason behind it is that we couldn't get jobs at home.

There are many people from Scotland working overseas still. I don't really think you can complain when the situation is reversed. If there is genuinely unjustified discrimination then it's illegal anyway, but if it's a commercial decision for whatever reason (maybe the workers concerned are particularly good at whatever they are doing) then you don't really have much of a case.

The bottom line is that when the economy turns down, there are less jobs and so people will argue over them. Human nature. if you want to eliminate that then you need to create a lot of additional non-jobs or else get the economy moving again. The real basic problem is that the population of the world is far too high.

What the strikers are asking for is in effect severe immigration controls and a closed economy. Under EU rules that is illegal and impossible to deliver. They are therefore on a loser. I can see why the BNP are trying to muscle in because it suits their isolationist viewpoint.


I'm impressed. Bang on the money and not a mention of the SNP! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-04 09:11:19
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 4 2009, 09:08 AM) [snapback]573910[/snapback]
I was speaking to an activist who was campaigning for the SNP in Glenrothes and he tells me that Labour sent a couple of busloads of their activists up from the Durham area and sent them round all the old folks' homes in the area to "assist" the residents in filling in postal/proxy votes. Now some of you obviously are only too willing to believe this is some sort of conspiracy theory, but it was suspected before the vote that there were dirty tricks going on. In an election where the turn out was about 50% or thereabouts, it seems very odd indeed that 100% of residents in a nursing home would vote. Remember that some of these peole are suffering from dementia and not in possession of their faculties. It seems a distict possibility that some unscrupulous person could fill their form in for them. Like I said, just because you can't prove something beyond reasonable doubt doesn't mean you don't know it happened.

I also find Labour's reaction to this business rather strange - claiming to welcome an enquiry into why"an SNP Government Department has lost more data" and claiming that Labour won due to "the incompetence of the SNP at national and local level" seems a bit like the lady doth protest too much. It doesn't ring true as being the reaction of a party which believes there is nothing to this story, but more like someone who has a guilty conscience talking too much. I can't quite put my finger on it but it just doesn't seem kosher (or halal, to be even handed).

That is a VERY accurate statement in reference to the electorate at large! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-04 09:19:28
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 4 2009, 09:16 AM) [snapback]573916[/snapback]
Indeed. One of the symptoms of dementia is voting labour....

However, I would think given the age profile of nursing home residents, dementia is likely to be more prevalent there than in the general population seeing as it is fairly rare for dementia to affect those under about 50.

C'mon-elections have always been plagued by dirty tricks. It doesn't surprise me that experienced shitbags stole a march yet again on Bawheids weans.

And Spurtle has the temerity to girn! laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-04 09:23:22
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 4 2009, 09:17 AM) [snapback]573917[/snapback]
I have reported your post to the good Mods that run this site. GKR will have you banned for personnaly insulting me/him/you/her/someone that looks like a weasly little faggot.

I hope you get banned

Sean-it's my considered opinion that you are a weasly little handbag toting lipstick wearing faggot who takes it up the arse for the price of a years subscription to the Trusssssssssssssssssssssssht. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-04 09:25:07 There-first vote from a nursing home inmate! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-04 09:25:50
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 4 2009, 09:24 AM) [snapback]573923[/snapback]
Duly reported mad.gif

....and a jobby!
mortonjag 2009-02-04 11:20:44
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 4 2009, 09:29 AM) [snapback]573929[/snapback]
Enough of this talk of the Gestapo, you may well be insulting my good neighbour Dr Slutz mad.gif



QUOTE(GreatKingRat @ Feb 4 2009, 10:39 AM) [snapback]573953[/snapback]
LOL guys, talk about a storm in a teacup. smile.gif

Okay, I was asked to remove the name calling that went on, so I did, and I'd do the same for any of you. (I'll admit right now that a couple of other similar reports have gone overlooked recently, but I accept that's my own fault it and won't happen again. Or I can be more lax from here on in?)

Maybe Toby's warning was a bit harsh and I'm happy to discuss that with him, but I have to follow the rules that I've set for myself (Wouldn't ignoring that be the real abuse of power?)

I'm not going to respond to each post individually here. I don't like censorship either and hate going down that route, so I'm going to reinstate the deleted posts (with the infractions removed) for now.

But seriously guys, it's your forum at the end of the day, not mine. I'm all for majority rules. tongue.gif


I disagree. What annoys me is that 'offensive' posts are usually seen in isolation by the Mods-I'm talking about yourself and retrospectively, and heavy handed action is taken without giving the 'offender' the opportunity to defend himself-indeed until you recently updated the warning system I had absolutely no knowledge that I had been 'warned' on four separate occasions!

That's water under the bridge now but I was also BANNED without warning on two of those occasions. You recently told me that you'd had 'justified' complaints and that 'if I didn't stop taking the piss you'd ban me again'. I replied to you and still await your response.

So you see Craig, what folk are objecting to is NOT moderation - it's sentencing without a fair trial, and that's what happened here. Somebody reported Toby to the authorities, having also contacted him personally, and the authorities danced to that somebody's tune.

I believe you're trying to do the job properly, and you've already made improvements. My advice is that you consider every complaint carefully, because there is almost always a nasty hidden agenda! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-04 11:30:42
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Feb 4 2009, 09:54 AM) [snapback]573938[/snapback]
Jason Walker was rank rotton, he had "The Russells" a condition where he'd get one on one with the keeper if not caught offside, then proceed to smash a trundler back into the keepers arms or rocket a sclaff by the post, we want real internationalists at Scappa not junior ones, and good luck to Jason he was trying a trier.



QUOTE(irnbru @ Feb 4 2009, 09:57 AM) [snapback]573942[/snapback]
I cant agree with this - he just wasn't up to standard.

The lower leagues in England he is playing in aren't that high a satandard anyway - when Alan Evans filled the side with guys from these leagues it was one of the worst Morton teams I've ever seen. This is Walkers level and thats why he's looking ok at it.



QUOTE(dazed @ Feb 4 2009, 11:15 AM) [snapback]573976[/snapback]
They must be desperate to call a ginger into their squad! laugh.gif


HMM-maybe the story about Jason shagging everybody's burd was true after all! jerry.gif jerry.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-04 11:33:24
QUOTE(leyTON @ Feb 4 2009, 10:54 AM) [snapback]573968[/snapback]
can someone clear this up for me?
would you consider the term i-ti(as in italian, not sure of spelling) to be racist?

NOPE!
mortonjag 2009-02-04 11:38:12
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 4 2009, 09:56 AM) [snapback]573941[/snapback]
I would love to know what those who voted yes think as to why it was justified, or maybe it's down to them disliking the individual which actually shows them up for being pathetic, I wonder if those people will out themselves. rolleyes.gif





You won't, proving my point on the admin forum that the sleekit creeps who go clyping don't posses one communal testicle.
mortonjag 2009-02-04 11:48:17
QUOTE(GreatKingRat @ Feb 4 2009, 11:28 AM) [snapback]573982[/snapback]
For once Ernie, you might have a point. tongue.gif No point having a heavy handed mod with no users, so I'll seriously consider your post. Later though, I really should get back to work.

With regards to your past treatment on here, you know I can't answer for past mods actions. And with that PM, I thought my silence spoke for itself? If you still want me to reply that's cool, I'll have something over to you tonight.

laugh.gif

It was just that you'd said you would reply after your break, but there's no need! laugh.gif

What has now happened is that the unimpeachable pillar of society who innocently complained about Toby's unprovoked and viperous attack has been laughed to scorn. I DO hope he'll think twice before repeating his offence!

Thanks for having the balls to discuss this openly-that's a HUGE improvement already, and keep up the good work.
mortonjag 2009-02-04 11:51:26
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 4 2009, 11:33 AM) [snapback]573985[/snapback]
Some folk on here are looking at Walker with rose-tinted glasses on (whereas MJ is clearly just s*** stirring rolleyes.gif).

I thought he done well in his spell with us, but he was hardly trailblazing and the Second Division was probably his level. Glad to see him flourish in non-league football in England, though.

Mortonjag never stirs jobbies.

I have not made Walker out to be anything he was not. I'm talking about his performances relative to those of others at the level we were then at, and the boy was FAR from useless. I reckon he got a raw deal from JM.
mortonjag 2009-02-04 11:56:53
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 4 2009, 11:46 AM) [snapback]573990[/snapback]
As the title say's, show us your bollocks. rolleyes.gif

Or forever haud yer wheesht

[attachment=5156:Weasel_bw.GIF]

He doesn't appear to have any, though I note with interest the yellow belly!
mortonjag 2009-02-04 12:03:47
QUOTE(Toby @ Feb 4 2009, 11:54 AM) [snapback]573998[/snapback]
It seems fairly obvious to everyone who I was talking about, as I've had PMs saying they assume is was who it was, although it may be worth mentioning that there's certainly no love lost between myself and a female member of the mother club, and that has been the case for years, only reaching a point after the Ross County debacle in October.

I don't know what the point is in saying you'll discuss the issue with me, you've handed out an (in my opinion) unjustified warning, inspite of never previously having to discuss my conduct on this board, in spite of my anonymity never being protected when said individual launched into his tirade in full earshot of friends of mine and in spite of the fact that according tho the forum rules* what I said was not actually a breach.

*Abusing fellow members will not be tolerated. Any posts deemed threatening or bullying other users will be deleted and the user will be warned.

The sad thing about this whole fiasco is that everyone, including the person I chose not to mention, knows who I'm talking about. Rather than go making phone calls, demanding action on posts etc. I'd consider taking a look in the mirror before worrying about that.


I've been creaming my pants all morning waiting for the grand exposee.

Haven't any idea who it was.

Lord Lucan? unsure.gif

Maybe the Jesse Boys could design a wee Valentine's Day card for him. Sounds like he needs a bit of lovin'!
mortonjag 2009-02-04 12:05:16
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Feb 4 2009, 12:01 PM) [snapback]574003[/snapback]
I think he was a decent squad player at the level we were playing, and ghe did well at times.

Regardless of JM's treatment of him, I don't think he would be a highly valued member of the squad at the moment (based on his level of performance when he was with us) so, on the whole, it's probably a good thing he moved on when he did.

When he was given the chance which IMO was far too infrequently.
mortonjag 2009-02-04 12:09:34
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 4 2009, 12:01 PM) [snapback]574004[/snapback]
Nope, thats yer man, a white or yellow belly, description to a T. The bollocks are just to wee to justify wasting pencil lead.

Well at least that makes it SFW! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-04 12:10:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 4 2009, 11:55 AM) [snapback]574000[/snapback]
Wouldn't know happy.gif

That's a first!
mortonjag 2009-02-04 12:12:04
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Feb 4 2009, 12:09 PM) [snapback]574010[/snapback]
Jim McAllister.
Thoughts

Already been suggested and discussed in some length by Sram and Toon. I reckon it might work, but Alex Walker's playing 'no too bad' at the moment.
mortonjag 2009-02-04 12:14:18
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 4 2009, 12:11 PM) [snapback]574014[/snapback]
Yep, we are loved the world over. Some in the West Indies even adopted our surnames rolleyes.gif

Sobers?
mortonjag 2009-02-04 12:43:11
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 4 2009, 12:38 PM) [snapback]574036[/snapback]
Yes indeed. Edwards is a very common name in Barbados, so the Welsh must've been good slavemasters (how's that for a contradiction in terms) as well as the Scots.

You are Welsh? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-04 12:51:06
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Feb 4 2009, 12:47 PM) [snapback]574049[/snapback]
It wasn't me, but if it was, what did you intend to do?

Or is it just another pointless hard man, ego boosting topic? rolleyes.gif

Hard men are best to be pointless-bad enough getting battered to pulp without a stabbing too.
mortonjag 2009-02-04 13:00:21
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Feb 4 2009, 12:45 PM) [snapback]574045[/snapback]
Are you for real?

If there's anyone on here who "tries" to boost their egos constantly, it's the guys who are constantly starting these threads every time one of their pals (or in the case of some - bumboys) are warned or banned or whatever. And, as Rossco said, same folk every time. rolleyes.gif

I very much doubt Toby actually gives a fck. No drastic action taken until 100% warn? If anyone actually manages to reach that then they don't even deserve to be here. smile.gif

...who have no life experience, have only just started shaving, and delight in attempting to put one over those of us who know what we're talking about!

..but it's good fun and they always lose in the end!

[attachment=5157:sneaky.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-04 13:02:11
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Feb 4 2009, 12:57 PM) [snapback]574057[/snapback]
It's now snowing, will it land, will it be enough to build a snowman? unsure.gif

Unless somebody frightens it back up with a big hair dryer!
mortonjag 2009-02-04 13:03:37
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Feb 4 2009, 01:02 PM) [snapback]574063[/snapback]
I like that smiley!

[attachment=5158:dance.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-04 13:05:30
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Feb 4 2009, 01:03 PM) [snapback]574067[/snapback]
Corrected for you.

You think! [attachment=5159:nono.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-04 13:16:44
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 4 2009, 12:54 PM) [snapback]574053[/snapback]
I just don't get it. Obviously most of the guys who are making an overly large fuss (rightly or wrongly it IS a bit OTT) are Toby's pals. not having a go but the the point is right, no?

And apart from anything else, he got a 10 point warning. laugh.gif

He's not banned, if he get's it another 5 times he still won't be banned. I don't think you're being victimised, I think you should just let it go instead of kicking up a storm over it, as I've often observed when people strongly disagree with your views.

On the actual 'incident' that was or wasn't, I had absolutely no idea there were problem with unsaid person.

I've never met Toby-don't consider him a pal or otherwise, and frankly couldn't give a toss if he was banned for something he deserved.

It is ENTIRELY DIFFERENT that he became the victim of an ill considered decision-a decision which appears to have been forced on the Mod by the bleatings of a so far anonymous clype, who had in the interim allegedly tried to contact Toby in person. GKR has had the balls to reconsider the matter publicly and deserves credit for that.

It's all very well for the usual suspects to start their mindless 'storm in a teacup' pish, but justice is justice whether it's in a court of law, or a primary school class where one wean has stolen another's packet of condoms.

It was sneaky, cowardly, and designed to hurt, and it has now backfired big style.
mortonjag 2009-02-04 13:23:44
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 4 2009, 01:15 PM) [snapback]574080[/snapback]
Someone better tell me what happened or I swear to God, I'll unleash a pump so rancid that McArthur will be able to smell it through the triple glazing in his East Kilbride fortress. I'm not kidding.

I've not heard that word used in the context of flatus since I was a wean in Greenock! [attachment=5160:roflmao.gif]

mortonjag 2009-02-04 13:28:06
QUOTE(Toby @ Feb 4 2009, 01:22 PM) [snapback]574085[/snapback]
That's not necessarily true jag. The person to whom I was referring and who left me a voicemail to my knowledge doesn't post on here, so I wouldn't think it would have been him making a complaint.

laugh.gif

The plot thickens-somebody clyped FOR him-FFS that used to happen to me all the time in the days when you couldn't even say Shoogly was an old fud without folk takin' the hump!!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-04 13:37:20
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 4 2009, 01:21 PM) [snapback]574083[/snapback]
always DID think mj was a proctologist....... ie, a qualified pain in the erse!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

laugh.gif

Correction my friend-vastly experienced in sorting out sore arses! [attachment=5161:hit.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-04 13:42:02
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 4 2009, 01:32 PM) [snapback]574096[/snapback]
Cut yer wee teeny weenie bollocks off,

Can you not see the irony of my post rolleyes.gif
Come to think of it are you trying to deflect attention. wink.gif

I am more than curious to know who complained about a 'description', someone must think awful highly (or lowly, depending on your view) of themselves if they read what Toby wrote and thought 'how dare he speak about me like that, i'm complaining', either that or he thinks he is important.

GKR, can you tell us what the complaint said? tongue.gif

Dear Sir or Madman,

It has came to my attenshun that Toby the well nown trubbel maker has bean bad mowfing my mate.

Get it f***in sawrted.

Yours sinsearlie

The clype.
mortonjag 2009-02-04 13:45:51
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Feb 4 2009, 01:35 PM) [snapback]574101[/snapback]
I think Toby will cringe when he has a look at these threads, he has always struck me as the type of guy to fight his own battles. He is not backwards at coming forwards. rolleyes.gif

The problem is my dear that if some anonymous cowardly clyping piece of keech manages to get you warned or banned-you don't know where to start! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-04 14:03:20
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 4 2009, 02:01 PM) [snapback]574127[/snapback]
Wan bit my boaby when a wiz yung

I hope you stoated it.
mortonjag 2009-02-04 14:13:08
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Feb 4 2009, 02:06 PM) [snapback]574131[/snapback]
Tell me about it. rip.gif Mj, please tell me you don't look like Michael Winner. unsure.gif

Of course not angel! [attachment=5165:throb.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-04 14:16:00
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 4 2009, 02:13 PM) [snapback]574136[/snapback]
I don't know if anyone noticed but when Dominic Shimmin went off injured Chris Smith tucked into centre-half and McAlister went to left-back.

and Spoonsy tucked in to a Mars.
mortonjag 2009-02-04 14:17:36
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 4 2009, 02:15 PM) [snapback]574138[/snapback]
he referred to an unnamed person as a odious little f*ckwit whom I'm led to believe doesn't post on this board and has absolutely noting to do with the Gourock or the PoW travel clubs.

But this massage board is full of odious little f***wits! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-04 14:21:36
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 4 2009, 02:19 PM) [snapback]574147[/snapback]
A Mars a day helps you work, rest and play.

...and an apple a day keeps the doctor away! [attachment=5166:fing361.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-04 15:10:32
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 4 2009, 02:21 PM) [snapback]574152[/snapback]
f*** off Mortonjag.

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDAN apple![attachment=5167:flowers.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-04 15:26:32 Liverpool to win for my Granddad! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-04 15:46:05
QUOTE(GreatKingRat @ Feb 4 2009, 10:52 AM) [snapback]573963[/snapback]
I think the links should stay as a pinned topic in the Morton forum, do you think there'd be enough links to justify it's own section?


I was thinking that, as I know that's originally what the International forum was set up for. I can add it as a sub forum of the General Football forum.
Do you think it'd be different to the way debate/politic related threads are just now?

Serious debate on politics etc always lends itself to interspersed humour and nonsense, so I think it might be a shame to have a separate forum. What would happen is that the serious (humourless) folk would get all upset and you'd just get more complaints!
mortonjag 2009-02-04 16:04:31
QUOTE(EBu @ Feb 4 2009, 04:02 PM) [snapback]574187[/snapback]
That was harsh! laugh.gif

They wear glasses, bring friends, and are always up ferret.
mortonjag 2009-02-04 16:18:55
QUOTE(GreatKingRat @ Feb 4 2009, 04:15 PM) [snapback]574196[/snapback]
It's on ITV1, in England at least.

...but not on STV! huh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-04 16:30:56
QUOTE(The Whistle Blower @ Feb 4 2009, 04:21 PM) [snapback]574199[/snapback]

There are 21! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-04 18:42:29
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 4 2009, 06:38 PM) [snapback]574250[/snapback]
Me also, going to see someone, think i'm suffering from PTSD

Part time supporter disorder?
mortonjag 2009-02-04 18:48:45 Joan Newby comes from Warrington.
mortonjag 2009-02-04 19:39:36
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Feb 4 2009, 07:06 PM) [snapback]574257[/snapback]
Is it just me, or is there more than a little bit of hypocrasy at play here? You don't like people talking about you in that manner, so why on earth should you not be pulled up for doing precisely the same thing on here in rather strong terms...?

Perhaps GKR would be better off posting a warning to beware of a large number of spat dummies and flying toys in the area.

Why don't you just publish the full story Eanie, and then we can all make a balanced judgement?

mortonjag 2009-02-05 07:46:06 English beasts!
mortonjag 2009-02-05 08:09:34
QUOTE(Deego @ Feb 4 2009, 09:10 PM) [snapback]574295[/snapback]
Feel me.

I feel a big group hug coming on!
mortonjag 2009-02-05 08:20:39
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Feb 5 2009, 12:34 AM) [snapback]574393[/snapback]
'Homer' was the Morton captain when I first started going to games. Twenty odd years later and we've never had a full-back that has come close to his standard. He got forward plenty and had the Homer 'shuffle' that got him past his man.. imagine, a Morton full back that could beat a man and get into attacking positions! Then think of Smith and MacGregor... rolleyes.gif

Probably next best during my time of watching would be Derek Collins... and for entertainment value and the ability to get into attacking positions, Mark Pickering used to do pretty well if I remember correctly. He'd go on these direct runs that would almost inevitably end up with him being fouled outside the box... hard wee guy!

The guys we have now, they're just not up to much at all... pity.


Very few folk will have seen Kai Johanssen at right back for the Ton. He was a VERY cultured and super fit player (one of Hal Stewart's Danes), who was eventually sold on to Rangers where I think he scored a crucial goal in a cup tie or someting.


QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 5 2009, 01:06 AM) [snapback]574397[/snapback]
Looking more and more like he's out his depth in the first division. Why so many allowances are being made for this guy's beyond me. A stand out against SPL teams as a lot of average players can be in one-off occasions. I prefer to judge him on the bread and butter that is the league where he's been found severely lacking.

Other than receiving POY awards last season when he was the best of an extremely bad lot can someone tell me what he's done to suggest he's up to performing on a consistent basis week-in-week-out at this level?

I've not said it for a while now (sorry JonaTon and Savo) but the most over-rated player I've seen at the club in 20 years.

I'd love to be proven wrong but I really can't see him developing any further as a player and he's as likely, if not more likely, to move downwards as upwards.

I await the abuse. rolleyes.gif


None from me. He's PLAINLY been overrated when regularly linked with SPL clubs and unable to cut it at first division level.

That doesn't mean his potential has been made full use of. I still have some hopes for Jimbo, but probably at a club with a bigger squad and more experienced management team.
mortonjag 2009-02-05 08:27:15
QUOTE(dmc @ Feb 4 2009, 11:57 PM) [snapback]574384[/snapback]
Awww c'mon now that's not fair!!!
You promised you weren't gonna be as round as much!!!
Now I've gone and read a whole limerick that came from you!!!
That sucks!!
Honstely you yanks you just can't help yourselves!!

Anyway... take a hint.....


A Yankee law student namedTrick
Went looking for fun for his dick
He humped two Boys Brigades
Giving them legal AIDS
And MidTON's is going to be sick!
mortonjag 2009-02-05 08:39:47
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 4 2009, 09:09 PM) [snapback]574294[/snapback]
It's MR McArthur and it's a ranch not a fortress.



QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 5 2009, 01:14 AM) [snapback]574400[/snapback]
What I cant understand is why Toby's posts were censored as the recipient of his vitriol wasn't a Morton player and the context wasn't racist either, and i'm pretty sure whatever Toby said about the petty officer of the GMSC wasn't any worse than the abuse that some members of this messageboard get on a regular basis, yet i doubt very much the moderators on here go around issuing warnings to everyone who indulges in a bit of name calling on here.

I think the moderators on here are pretty selective of their targets. Toby, by his own admission is a loudmouth at games and maybe even in the boozers afterwards, but whenever he comes on here he is always articulate in his contibutions and doesn't let them digress into the kind of childish name calling which many (including myself) have done over the years. He is getting singled out by the moderators because of who is, rather than what he's posted.

Not that i think that Toby gives a toss (in fact hes probably proud of getting a 'warning' by the moderators) but i'd be keen to know how many warnings those same moderators issued over this thread, which is rife with discrimatory abuse to a sizeable sector of society and surely contradictory of their alleged support of the uber-trendy-liberal "Show Racism the Red Card" initiative.

Hypocrits.

In this particular instance, I believe the Mod acted in good faith in response to being hassled by somebody who 'had it in' for Toby.

In the past , my opinion of Moderation has concurred with yours-don't rock the boat or they will discriminate against you at every turn!
mortonjag 2009-02-05 08:44:39
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 4 2009, 08:28 PM) [snapback]574277[/snapback]
To call britain a democracy is almost laughable to be honest.

We should model ourselves on Zimbabwe!
mortonjag 2009-02-05 08:47:38 Over the years I have come to the conclusion that women who EXPECT to be wined and dined on Valentine's day should be avoided like the plague.

Keep them guessing-by all means express your love spontaneously-just don't allow yourself to be conned by some self indulgent dame and exploited by Mr Thornton and his chocolate boys.
mortonjag 2009-02-05 09:11:54
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 5 2009, 08:57 AM) [snapback]574424[/snapback]
I think you'se have already rolleyes.gif


Who are we's? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-05 09:13:48
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 5 2009, 09:07 AM) [snapback]574425[/snapback]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7870562.stm



Intelligent civilisations are out there and there could be thousands of them, according to an Edinburgh scientist.
The discovery of more than 330 planets outside our solar system in recent years has helped refine the number of life forms that are likely to exist.

The current research estimates that there are at least 361 intelligent civilisations in our Galaxy and possibly as many as 38,000.

The work is reported in the International Journal of Astrobiology.

Even with the higher of the two estimates, however, it is not very likely that contact could be established with alien worlds.

While researchers often come up with overall estimates of the likelihood of intelligent life in the universe, it is a process fraught with guesswork; recent guesses put the number anywhere between a million and less than one.

"It's a process of quantifying our ignorance," said Duncan Forgan, the University of Edinburgh researcher who carried out the work.

In his new approach, Mr Forgan simulated a galaxy much like our own, allowing it to develop solar systems based on what is now known from the existence of so-called exoplanets in our galactic neighbourhood.

These simulated alien worlds were then subjected to a number of different scenarios.

The first assumed that it is difficult for life to be formed but easy for it to evolve, and suggested there were 361 intelligent civilisations in the galaxy.

A second scenario assumed life was easily formed but struggled to develop intelligence. Under these conditions, 31,513 other forms of life were estimated to exist.

The final scenario examined the possibility that life could be passed from one planet to another during asteroid collisions - a popular theory for how life arose here on Earth.

That approach gave a result of some 37,964 intelligent civilisations in existence.

Form and function

While far-flung planets may reduce uncertainty in how many Earth-like planets there are, some variables in the estimate will remain guesses.

For example, the time from a planet's formation to the first sparks of life, or from there to the first intelligent civilisations, are large variables in the overall estimate.

For those, Mr Forgan says, we will have to continue to assume Earth is an average case.

"It is important to realise that the picture we've built up is still incomplete," said Mr Forgan.

"Even if alien life forms do exist, we may not necessarily be able to make contact with them, and we have no idea what form they would take.

"Life on other planets may be as varied as life on Earth and we cannot predict what intelligent life on other planets would look like or how they might behave."

I hope he's checked all this out with God.
mortonjag 2009-02-05 09:17:39
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 5 2009, 08:43 AM) [snapback]574420[/snapback]
Gremlin
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI can refer you to a plastic surgeon with a sense of humour.
mortonjag 2009-02-05 09:28:19
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 5 2009, 09:20 AM) [snapback]574433[/snapback]
You're not that funny. I'll take my custom elsewhere, thank you.



OOOH-your CUSTOM-no less!

In my day we all called it our dick.
mortonjag 2009-02-05 09:31:02
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Feb 5 2009, 09:29 AM) [snapback]574440[/snapback]
Don't go out for a meal on valentines night, anyone...ever!

Surrounded by all these old couple who have grown to hate eat other, but are forced out on this one night....its cack.

Home cooked meal's the way forward

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Very, very true!
mortonjag 2009-02-05 09:40:08
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 5 2009, 09:17 AM) [snapback]574432[/snapback]
No abuse...but he doesn't look out his depth to me. Far from it. He does look like he's struggling for form and confidence at the moment, but that's completely different. I don't really see him stepping up and playing for an Aberdeen or Hearts, though he's more than capable of playing at this level. But then, I also think his dip in form (although evident) has been exaggerated on here.

As a side note, I've always found it a bit odd that at a club where fans regularly bemoan the team for not caring enough, players like McAllister and Scott McLaughlin who, even when they play poorly bust a gut and never hide, and come in for stick really quickly.

It's a Ton thing and it's not reserved for any particular target-look at how the 75% in favour of JM melted like snow off a dyke. NOBODY was disagreeing that Irons should go at the time earlier this season when Grady saved his neck. We seem to have little patience for anything.

I've recently had a right good go at Jimbo because he's seemed disinterested, has been keech, and REFUSES to learn the basics of keeping a shot on target. I have, however, pointed out that the boy needs his game freshened up, and I don't think it's going to happen here.
mortonjag 2009-02-05 09:43:50
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 5 2009, 09:30 AM) [snapback]574441[/snapback]
You said "we" blink.gif

Yes Spurtle-in response to your 'britain'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-05 09:51:29 [quote name='MrsTON' date='Feb 5 2009, 09:41 AM' post='574445']
I never do. Apart from all the people who only go out because it's Valentines day, all the places double the price for some tat with a romantic name. rolleyes.gif
[/quote.

Aye it's amazing what you can do to a tough bit of steak and some micro chips!


Fillet de boeuf romantique avec des pommes frites £12.50
mortonjag 2009-02-05 10:09:38
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Feb 5 2009, 10:05 AM) [snapback]574453[/snapback]
You old smoothie you. rolleyes.gif I presume you don't have a bird? unsure.gif

BH is a POUFFE
mortonjag 2009-02-05 18:58:48
QUOTE(EBu @ Feb 5 2009, 10:35 AM) [snapback]574475[/snapback]
What time you going to get her at today?

She's been here since about one o'clock-settling in really well and taking up quite a lot of our attention! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-06 07:23:16
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Feb 5 2009, 04:14 PM) [snapback]574670[/snapback]
okay, thanks for putting my mind at rest.

Your a good mod, nearly as good as Nacho was.

Until he became addicted to slice rolls.
mortonjag 2009-02-06 07:25:21
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Feb 5 2009, 05:51 PM) [snapback]574703[/snapback]
Who are they to tell the father that he is wrong to do what his daughter wanted?

blink.gif
Infallible people who possess GOd's dedicated 'phone number.
mortonjag 2009-02-06 07:28:20
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Feb 5 2009, 04:10 PM) [snapback]574669[/snapback]
Went to Silverburn this afternoon who do I see none other than the good doctor driving away mad.gif how was your day MJ


mad.gif

I NEVER spend a day there-I didn't even get out of the car-my other half was getting stuff for the greyhound! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-06 07:30:53
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 5 2009, 08:31 PM) [snapback]574753[/snapback]
If we had known that then I am sure a fund would have been organised in record time... tongue.gif .

She's getting bored already-maybe we should get a second! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-06 07:34:10
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 5 2009, 10:57 AM) [snapback]574486[/snapback]
We have Celtic supporters on here?

Not only that but ones who liked a player that poor?

I can only assume I'm correct with this...afterall...Mortonjag MSP doesn't make mistakes smile.gif

MORTON SUPPORTER of PERFECTION!

Thank you.
mortonjag 2009-02-06 07:39:01
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 5 2009, 12:03 PM) [snapback]574530[/snapback]
Sorry Duglas, you're right as always. I've so much talent I'm now filling a barrow. laugh.gif

HA-I see your continuing in the 'keech' mode-the roses will be so pleased.
mortonjag 2009-02-06 07:46:44
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 5 2009, 10:58 PM) [snapback]574841[/snapback]
Speaking of money, whatever came of this £2 million share issue? unsure.gif

I was thinking the same thing-the club seem to have stopped talking about it.
mortonjag 2009-02-06 07:55:41
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 6 2009, 12:04 AM) [snapback]574869[/snapback]
No problem mate. Its actually nice to get credit - a lot of people would have just lifted it without mentioning where it came from. The SFA listed what our red cards were for but didn't attribute them to the particular player, incident or match; I did that myself so they could be wrong but I'm pretty sure they're right.

Irons' comments in the Tele' are just the type of defensive nonsense I've come to expect from him. Four of those red cards were 100% deserved and I'm sure the vast majority of Morton fans would agree. For Irons not to acknowledge McManus's red card against Airdrie was deserved is particularly ridiculous. He even said both our bookings on Saturday weren't justified but Chris Smith's yellow was definitely deserved.

At a time when SPL Managers are attempting a truce with Refs or at least agreeing to 'muffle it' in the heat of the moment, sheep lips presumes to dispute the decisions of a top grade ref several days later! unsure.gif

If your head's already in the Sand Mr Irons, the wearing of blinkers is quite superfluous! Your whole bloody life seems to focus on defence.

mortonjag 2009-02-06 07:59:17
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 6 2009, 07:18 AM) [snapback]574892[/snapback]
Speaking to journalists in Sydney, presenter Jeremy Clarkson reportedly called prime minister Gordon Brown a "one-eyed Scottish idiot".

Is this kind of comment offensive ? rolleyes.gif

Of course it is Spurtle! One should not mock the afflicted.
mortonjag 2009-02-06 09:37:23 I was at school before you were born Edwards-never you forget that! laugh.gif

Oh-and many happy returns.
mortonjag 2009-02-06 09:41:25
QUOTE(EBu @ Feb 6 2009, 09:37 AM) [snapback]574940[/snapback]
We used to have a neighbour that took in every single bloody stray cat that crossed their path, pain in the arse! I dont mind a cat, but cats annoy the hell out of me.

How come if my dog has a crap (which I always clean up) people look at you like your scum, but folk can let their cats out to s***e all over my garden during the night no problem.

Sorry rant over. biggrin.gif

Anyway, glad the new addition is settling in well MJ, hope you enjoy the 5 mile walks!

I will enjoy the walks, but it's a myth that Greyhounds require a huge amount of exercise-they're sprinters and tire easily.

QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 6 2009, 09:38 AM) [snapback]574941[/snapback]
MJ has got a rescued dog? Just need to get youself a copy of "The Bark" (which I take it is a magazine about dogs) and you can get to sh4g that blonde burd that was pictured on another thread.


I already have one at home! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-06 09:43:11
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Feb 6 2009, 01:12 AM) [snapback]574889[/snapback]
I read in a magazine last week about the colon cleansing qualities of Prune juice. Tonight during a visit to Tesco i happened upon the fruit juice aisle and recalled said article. After musing over the straight from concentrate carton or the tinned offering in natural syrup, I arrived home with my newly acquired 1 litre carton of concentrated constipation eliminator; waxing laxical in a boastful display of arse arrogance about 'downing the lot in wunner'.

f*** me! I downed the lot about 2 hours ago, my stomachs doing cartwheels and i've been literally spraying brown piss out my back door like a Trick 37 american stealth super soaker 9000. It leaves you feeling like you've got nothing else to give...then the in flight turbulence starts up again and its seconds out round 3 with Armitage Shanks.

Anyone else got a prune related story?



Shoogly signed a couple from Gretna!
mortonjag 2009-02-06 09:55:28
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 5 2009, 02:02 PM) [snapback]574614[/snapback]
...this just got interesting!



Indeed my little poison dwarf!

The thread was about Toby being banned for voicing an opinion, and because somebody clyped.

That's the size of it.
mortonjag 2009-02-06 09:59:57
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 6 2009, 09:35 AM) [snapback]574938[/snapback]
Clarkson was joking, although it is ironic that what he said is spot on. FFS, why have so many people lost all sense of humour? Clarkson is an entertainer and his irreverent observations are meant to be taken as humour.

He should have gone further and pointed out that Cyclops Brown is complicit in the deaths of thousands of innocent people, as well as being a major factor in the economic disaster being foisted upon many of us who are not fortunate enough to be granted huge bonuses funded by the taxpayer; or huge consultancy fees for fixing laws some people don't like. Personally I think he let the psychologically flawed Monovision Brown off lightly.

Wrong-he has two eyes-even if one's fucked, is English by adoption and attitude, and sadly is far from being an idiot.

Salmond on the other hand is a forked tongued Tartan Tory halfwit with delusions of grandeur!
mortonjag 2009-02-06 10:03:58
QUOTE(Kenni @ Feb 6 2009, 09:59 AM) [snapback]574959[/snapback]
ps Toby just read your post again the only thing I said about the Ross County game at the meeting was let's forget about it and move on it was just a stupid incident that is forgot about that was after it had been brought up by someone else. This can be confirmed as the meeting was recoreded by SeanI

wub.gif wub.gif LOVE AND KISSES TO ALL XXXXXXXXXXXXXX wub.gif wub.gif



Hi Kenni-many thanks for the love and kisses.

Will you be saying next that nobody clyped? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-06 10:05:55
QUOTE(EBu @ Feb 6 2009, 09:43 AM) [snapback]574949[/snapback]
Could you tell that to Harry? happy.gif

Maybe you should have got a wee girl! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-06 10:07:36
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 6 2009, 09:54 AM) [snapback]574952[/snapback]
I'm still laughing, couldn't see my screen for tears. laugh.gif laugh.gif

A whole f***ing litre laugh.gif laugh.gif

laugh.gif

Indeed!

My mum used to describe prunes as 'black coated workers'!
mortonjag 2009-02-06 10:09:35
QUOTE(dazed @ Feb 6 2009, 10:01 AM) [snapback]574962[/snapback]
How dare you sir , insult our glorious leader! ohmy.gif

mellow.gif

laugh.gif

Only an opinion but you can get me a ten pointer if you write to the Mods! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-06 10:19:35 How long is a piece of string?
mortonjag 2009-02-06 10:21:56
QUOTE(Kenni @ Feb 6 2009, 10:16 AM) [snapback]574986[/snapback]
Good idea Seani let's everyone know what is happening and getting said rolleyes.gif

blink.gif

Are you sure the Mods will be paying full attention?
mortonjag 2009-02-06 10:34:53
QUOTE(EBu @ Feb 6 2009, 10:07 AM) [snapback]574970[/snapback]
Well, he's had the old scissor treatment so he's as good as! tongue.gif

You sound experienced! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-06 10:37:43
QUOTE(dazed @ Feb 6 2009, 10:11 AM) [snapback]574978[/snapback]
Is that a starter for ten????? laugh.gif laugh.gif

Indeed-I also reckon Bawheid's an odious little fuckwit who takes it up the arse from Soapy Soutar while singing God Save the Queen in falsetto. mellow.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-06 10:40:21
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Feb 6 2009, 10:32 AM) [snapback]574995[/snapback]
Fair enough but what did she buy the dog ph34r.gif?

If you are alluding to this wise old terrier-nought as usual! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-06 10:42:18
QUOTE(EBu @ Feb 6 2009, 10:37 AM) [snapback]575001[/snapback]
I find the scissor method is alot easier than the two brick method, bit less mess too. laugh.gif

mellow.gif
They claim the two brick method is completely painless if you watch your fingers!
mortonjag 2009-02-06 10:50:59
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 6 2009, 10:48 AM) [snapback]575008[/snapback]
Miniscule Smegma'd Penis? unsure.gif

Do you wish a referral?
mortonjag 2009-02-06 10:55:16
QUOTE(ton1901 @ Feb 6 2009, 10:23 AM) [snapback]574989[/snapback]
Well if i go much older i will be goin for something ma mums age and thats a no go

laugh.gif

Women 'peak' sexually at about forty!

Of course it may be that you prefer the younger look.
mortonjag 2009-02-06 11:19:37
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 6 2009, 11:14 AM) [snapback]575016[/snapback]
Someone who supports Greenock Morton Football Club, plain and simple. BTW supporters of other teams are welcome as visitors too. ffs. biggrin.gif

How do you define 'supports'? biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-06 11:21:01
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 6 2009, 11:18 AM) [snapback]575018[/snapback]
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. The love has returned to the board. wub.gif

Yours Barbarossi.

Anyone for an orgy?????????

My arse awaits your attention.

Mortonjagi!
mortonjag 2009-02-06 15:19:03
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 6 2009, 11:36 AM) [snapback]575030[/snapback]
A person who wishes success and good fortune for their chosen football club and, subject to personal circumstances, gives financial and/or vocal support to that cause as much as they are able to do so.

That's very impressive!

So a supporter's different from a fan? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-06 15:31:47
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 6 2009, 03:26 PM) [snapback]575130[/snapback]
Could be, depending on your definition of 'fan'. Which is ? biggrin.gif

A device for creating a current of air by movement of a surface or surfaces.
mortonjag 2009-02-06 15:42:18
QUOTE(EBu @ Feb 6 2009, 03:36 PM) [snapback]575135[/snapback]
Difference being that the 2 mentioned are masters of manipulating the media, Davie's comments just made him sound like a tadger that doesn't watch the games.

Nothing wrong with sticking up for his players, but in this instance he was totally wrong (perhaps building some bridges from the start of the season???).

Maybe he's trying to answer the old question:


Quis custodiet ipsos custodes laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-06 15:44:24
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 6 2009, 03:40 PM) [snapback]575136[/snapback]
Couldn't fondle her boobies, feel her arse or massage her special place very well with two big breadsticks though. Not without getting crumbs all over the mattress which is just going to piss her off, which means no action leaving you back at square one - desperate for a w*nk.

But you could give her a taste of your large baton.
mortonjag 2009-02-06 15:53:26
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 6 2009, 03:47 PM) [snapback]575141[/snapback]
Well there you are then.

So that's the air cleared?
mortonjag 2009-02-06 16:01:09

Contacting Cappielow
There is a possibility that email or telephone contact with Cappielow may be disrupted over the next couple of days.

We are having some repair work carried out in the offices, following the flooding in December, and this may cause some interruption to email and telephone services although we hope this will be kept to a minimum.

We would apologise for any inconvenience this may cause.

Posted on 03 February, 2009

From GMFC.net
mortonjag 2009-02-06 16:06:28
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 6 2009, 03:57 PM) [snapback]575145[/snapback]
You need some Aloe Vera and Witch Hazel moist wipes. Soothing.

Spoken like a true arse bandit! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-06 16:08:08
QUOTE(aww_naw @ Feb 6 2009, 02:50 PM) [snapback]575116[/snapback]
junkies are the funnyest hing on earth and also a pain in the ring but heroin must give you amazing balance

check this out lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WjMd3Z-1_k

You should be more selective.
mortonjag 2009-02-06 16:18:58
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 6 2009, 04:14 PM) [snapback]575158[/snapback]
In the Morton Club? Saturday Night.

...and the choon?
mortonjag 2009-02-06 16:23:01
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 6 2009, 04:22 PM) [snapback]575161[/snapback]
'Saturday Night at the Morton', what else.

How does that one go?
mortonjag 2009-02-06 16:26:41
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 6 2009, 04:23 PM) [snapback]575164[/snapback]
Same as the Drifters.

I see they favour the away strip!

Saturday night at the morton club
mortonjag 2009-02-06 17:27:41
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 6 2009, 05:09 PM) [snapback]575183[/snapback]
Good clip but wrong tune. 'Saturday Night At The Movies' is the one you're looking for.

AH! laugh.gif


This?
mortonjag 2009-02-06 21:58:15
QUOTE(ton1901 @ Feb 6 2009, 06:36 PM) [snapback]575199[/snapback]
I prefer the younger look, they are more energy and happier to please.

older women are to lazy i found.

i will find out about 40 yo's when i turn 40 thanks

Really-I was talking about sex-not housework! ph34r.gif


mortonjag 2009-02-06 22:02:20 Sorry to jump straight in Chris, but parents who reject medical advice because they 'know better' need their arses booted well and truly. Fine-if they choose to make decisions about their own health, but when it comes to innocent children, it's supreme arrogance and ignorance.

I'm tempted to describe them as odious fuckwits, but gather the term is outmoded.
mortonjag 2009-02-06 22:07:00 Sean is a full blooded heterosexual transvestite. His frustration is borne out of MidTONs banning him from the bus unless he ditches the stilettos, lipstick, and handbag.
mortonjag 2009-02-06 22:09:28
QUOTE(Lord Haw haw @ Feb 6 2009, 09:22 PM) [snapback]575263[/snapback]
You are a disgrace to GMFC. You fine well know Mr Rae is a Unionist.

Yip-always has two pickles with his British fish supper.
mortonjag 2009-02-06 22:14:42
QUOTE(Lord Haw haw @ Feb 6 2009, 09:36 PM) [snapback]575269[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDBetty wins by a country mile!
mortonjag 2009-02-06 22:48:06
QUOTE(Lord Haw haw @ Feb 6 2009, 10:23 PM) [snapback]575293[/snapback]
Does he secretly fancy Nicola Sturgeon?

Is MortonJag 65 or near it?

Can he not find a lover his own age to fantasise about?

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

If only you knew!
mortonjag 2009-02-07 07:13:40
QUOTE(CraigoTON @ Feb 6 2009, 10:16 PM) [snapback]575289[/snapback]
I have but one pickle with my fish supper... does that lower me on the Britishness scale?

Nah-jist yer chances o' faitherin' a wean. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-07 07:14:59 A greyhound.
mortonjag 2009-02-07 07:25:56
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 6 2009, 11:07 PM) [snapback]575326[/snapback]
You can't really be an internationalist without being a nationalist first and foremost....



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That's right Claymore Cock-or an interviewer without being a viewer, or an interceptor without being a sceptre, and so on.

I think I'll name this Spurtle's Solution!

'First and foremost I'm a nationalist, but of course that has allowed me to achieve my current high pinnacle in social standing-AN INTERNATIONALIST!'

Whoopy fuckin' doo-Spurtle-when it comes to politics you do talk a power of shite! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-07 07:29:42
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 7 2009, 12:23 AM) [snapback]575383[/snapback]
Are you shagging Haw Haw's bint as well?

The only Braun my dick goes near is the whisker trimmer! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-07 07:33:21
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 7 2009, 01:14 AM) [snapback]575420[/snapback]
Naw, JC was celibate. More likely Mohammed's pumping her.

You mean he never shagged a woman! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-07 07:38:46 Well I'm assuming he was a Labour MSP, because that's the platform virtually all the Asians politicians used until they realised that they could get an even better press by wearing kilts!

I've only vaguely heard of this guy-his death means less than nothing to me.

That's not intended to be unkind-just honest.
mortonjag 2009-02-07 07:41:18 Lang may yer cistern be full!

Many happy returns.
mortonjag 2009-02-07 07:46:20
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 7 2009, 12:29 AM) [snapback]575393[/snapback]
The perfect woman. I hear she sooks.
Because. There's only one of her, and I'm not sharing.

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mortonjag 2009-02-07 07:49:01
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 7 2009, 07:42 AM) [snapback]575449[/snapback]
Did she get a state funeral? Was the coffin draped in the Union Flag? Did she commit side-aways?Was she/he a cross gender?Do you like to wear here clothes now?How do her knickers feel hawding your almighty un-emptied bollocks?

Just curious. I am sure you understand there are many questions that need answered. biggrin.gif

Its good to have you back hee-haw, its a dull old message board without you, and even duller with you.

Any chance of a GOOD wind up one day????? rolleyes.gif

Hump yer dug ph34r.gif

BULLdug!
mortonjag 2009-02-07 07:52:49
QUOTE(Lord Haw haw @ Feb 7 2009, 12:22 AM) [snapback]575382[/snapback]
I doubt that son my wifes been dead for 14 years mad.gif

'My wife died fourteen years ago' refers to the passing on of ones spouse.

'My wife's been dead for fourteen years' hints vaguely of her still lying in bed beside him! unsure.gif unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-07 07:55:49
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 7 2009, 07:47 AM) [snapback]575453[/snapback]
Haw-Haw's had Hee-Haw. his Baw-Haws are bursting. rolleyes.gif

Did he not have a wee fly hump at Donkey Dave's wife-Lady Hee Haw?
mortonjag 2009-02-07 07:56:57
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 7 2009, 07:54 AM) [snapback]575458[/snapback]
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Brilliant laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

You have taken FAR too long to acknowledge that! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-07 07:59:19
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 7 2009, 07:42 AM) [snapback]575450[/snapback]
If your auntie had baws she'd be your uncle. Besides had the draw gone exactly the way it did, we would have played Ross County away in the last round - then Dundee Utd at home if we made it through that. wink.gif

We could still be in the cup if we had a good manager though! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-07 08:06:03
QUOTE(Ginantonic @ Feb 7 2009, 07:50 AM) [snapback]575455[/snapback]
I emailed the club to see if I could get a wee mention for my dad, who passed away, in the program. Needless to say, I did not receive a reply. I have now given up on the idea.

I'm being entirely serious when I ask why the club would fail to even reply to a fan whose father has just passed away. I really do hope there is a genuine explanation. I'm sorry to hear that, and doubt if you've deliberately been slighted. Nothing has really improved -it's obviously still the same Steptoe and Son shambles. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-07 08:58:03
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Feb 7 2009, 08:09 AM) [snapback]575467[/snapback]
Most if not all parents will want to do what's best for their children and depend heavily on advice from the medical profession. In this case I agree that the vast body of evidence supports the MMR and had it not been for a Doctor publishing a case for the opposite view then I doubt we would be in this position.

The supreme arrogance that you talk about MJ may be true but the medics have to share the blame. I've lost count over the years of the number of medical flip flops on what's good/bad for you.

Only the tiniest minority ever advised against MMR. You get the mavericks in all professions, and G.P.'s had to follow ill advised guidelines.

Can you give me an example in the last-say ten- years where the body of informed opinion got something completely wrong. There may well be instances-I just can't think of any off hand.
mortonjag 2009-02-07 09:04:17
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Feb 7 2009, 08:59 AM) [snapback]575500[/snapback]
Man alive! eek.gif

You should see her big sister.
mortonjag 2009-02-07 09:15:05
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Feb 7 2009, 09:05 AM) [snapback]575504[/snapback]
Probably not MJ without thinking hard (which I'm incapable of at the moment). The point I'm making is that when irrational fear is supported by dodgy research/dodgy doctors then the combination becomes very powerful. The appalling take up of the MMR and the consequences are ample evidence of that.

Human nature and anecdotal evidence will trump the best advice every time.

Precisely my point about the combination of arrogance and ignorance. At one point I was simultaneously working as a Locum in Bridgeton, and Clarkston Health Centres. I wasn't a youngster-already an experienced Doc in my late thirties. In Bridgeton I used to be regularly badgered for a prescription for antibiotics for mild upper respiratory infections (colds, rampant snotters, etc.) Sometimes it was almost impossible not to bow to pressure, even though I knew it was not ideal.

In Clarkston it was frequently the opposite-the informed and suspicious middle class parents were forever asking if their children REALLY needed antibiotics-when they most certainly did!

So you see, arrogance/ignorance crosses the class divide when it comes to patients' perceptions of treatment!

I used to say-'The only way to win in this job is to accept you never will'. blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-07 09:19:44 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I didn't realise the sheep shaggers used lavvies.
mortonjag 2009-02-07 09:44:20
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Feb 7 2009, 09:35 AM) [snapback]575515[/snapback]
As I said, that's what she told me, what could I do after a couple of months when she confessed her real age after we were already in love; I couldn't abandon her, but it did make me feel really awkward. If she had told me she was 17 when I met her initially then she wouldnt be with me now.

Your Lordship! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-07 09:46:06 dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-07 09:48:36
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 7 2009, 09:37 AM) [snapback]575518[/snapback]
The webcast from the pubcrawl.

That could be funny-if DI's going be sure to drink the way you've been taught or you'll not get to the next one.
mortonjag 2009-02-07 10:00:50
QUOTE(MrX @ Feb 7 2009, 09:50 AM) [snapback]575523[/snapback]
No, but I enjoy ridin' and boozin if you're interested.

I thought fox hunting had been abandoned!

QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 7 2009, 09:54 AM) [snapback]575526[/snapback]
I love scrabble, although im not that good at it. My girlfriend and her family don't play for points though, and go off the edge of the board to fit words in. My girlfriends lack of comeptitive streak is possibly the most annoying thing in the world as it means victory is hollow and meaningless. Stupid English people!

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My mum still plays-she's registered blind and only has a tiny amount of peripheral vision so wee use a 'Jumbo board'. She's now 86, but has never lost her fiercely competitive spirit. When my Dad was alive, the three of us used to play a lot, and she drove us both crazy when she was winning by miles. She'd still take AGES over her last couple of shots just to see how high a score she could get! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-07 10:02:47
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 7 2009, 10:00 AM) [snapback]575528[/snapback]
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Back on topic. I notice Clarkson made an apology. Seems most of the English media interest in the story is the fact that there is discrimination against blind people, but the derogatory "Scottish" term doesnt matter!

It wasn't derogatory Spurtle-simply factual. I thought you liked the English!
mortonjag 2009-02-07 10:04:29
QUOTE(MrX @ Feb 7 2009, 10:00 AM) [snapback]575530[/snapback]
Ha ha... total class.

I've had a similar experience with prune juice, two big pills from the doctors and a feckin' big tape worm in my gut... feckin rancid!

You had a tape worm? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-07 10:07:22
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Feb 7 2009, 09:50 AM) [snapback]575524[/snapback]
lol, seriously, she is a lot more mature than her age. She is very responsible, controls the finances in here, applied for a supervisors job in her work and stuff; and thee is a lot of thai girls with much older husbands than me, age (and looks ) don't mean in Thailand what they mean here; it's more about finding a ''good'' man. Old man, young man doesnt matter as long as he is a good man.

My girlfriend came to that conclusion too.
mortonjag 2009-02-07 10:08:55
QUOTE(MrX @ Feb 7 2009, 10:05 AM) [snapback]575536[/snapback]
Us blue bloods can get our kicks any way we please! I will admit to enjoying the odd game of Literati on yahoo messenger ph34r.gif

WTF is Literati-the Tally bin men?
mortonjag 2009-02-07 10:09:52
QUOTE(Yoda @ Feb 7 2009, 10:06 AM) [snapback]575537[/snapback]
Curtains

NO-don't do it-there is still hope!
mortonjag 2009-02-07 10:12:02
QUOTE(MrX @ Feb 7 2009, 10:08 AM) [snapback]575539[/snapback]
Too much undercooked meat in Basrah possibly ph34r.gif

Taenia saginata then! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-07 10:16:52
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 7 2009, 10:10 AM) [snapback]575542[/snapback]
I hate getting in to confrontations so will never get a cross word from me.

I do whoever like a good Dutch scratch (OK I had to google to get that one but hey-ho!)

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mortonjag 2009-02-07 10:18:15
QUOTE(MrX @ Feb 7 2009, 10:14 AM) [snapback]575545[/snapback]
Looked like white ribbon pasta....absolutely vile rip.gif

Spot on!

That's what saginata means-it's the beef tapeworm. The pork tapeworm doesn't have the stripes!
mortonjag 2009-02-07 10:21:34
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 7 2009, 10:17 AM) [snapback]575548[/snapback]
It was said in a derogatory manner, so it was in fact derogatory.

Take calling an English person and English b*****d for instance, it's factual because they are English, but it's said in a derogatory manner. So it's an anti-English remark, much in the same way as Clarkson's remark was anti-Scottish.

It was NOT derogatory. Clarkson is never derogatory.

Now shut up.
mortonjag 2009-02-07 11:52:40
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 7 2009, 10:24 AM) [snapback]575552[/snapback]
Main Entry:
1scrab·ble Listen to the pronunciation of 1scrabble
Pronunciation:
\ˈskra-bəl\
Function:
verb
Inflected Form(s):
scrab·bled; scrab·bling Listen to the pronunciation of scrabbling \-b(ə-)liŋ\
Etymology:
Dutch schrabbelen to scratch
Date:
1537

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Excellent! We'll soon have you rescued from those wretched numbers! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-07 11:53:34
QUOTE(MrX @ Feb 7 2009, 10:24 AM) [snapback]575553[/snapback]
Felt a mild sense of loss when I flushed her down the bog though, we'd been through some real scrapes together.

But you thankfully wriggled through! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-07 11:59:57
QUOTE(Yoda @ Feb 7 2009, 10:40 AM) [snapback]575560[/snapback]
Better pull myself together then

...and stop hanging about!
mortonjag 2009-02-07 12:01:56
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 7 2009, 11:56 AM) [snapback]575588[/snapback]
...your goal in life has been to turn me Dutch?

Well why didn't you say so!!!! *dons clogs*

I'd hate to see you with your finger in a dyke-no I was impressed by your use of a dictionary! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-07 12:03:22
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 7 2009, 12:02 PM) [snapback]575592[/snapback]
Clarkson's stating fact, nothing more nothing less. Perhaps you're blind to truths that contradict your petty moralising?

Blatant and paranoid Anglophobia!
mortonjag 2009-02-07 12:07:43
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 7 2009, 12:03 PM) [snapback]575595[/snapback]
Shock: you're wrong. Again.

Explain please!
mortonjag 2009-02-07 12:08:42
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 7 2009, 12:05 PM) [snapback]575597[/snapback]
He is saying it in a derogatory manner. Clarkson is a t***, so is Brown for that matter.

Clarkson is very successful.
mortonjag 2009-02-07 12:09:51
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 7 2009, 12:06 PM) [snapback]575598[/snapback]
I'm a resourcing wee imp when I want to be happy.gif

Then I exhort you to 'want to be' much more! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-07 12:20:49
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 7 2009, 12:11 PM) [snapback]575604[/snapback]
There you go. Let me guess - you figured that out using your 'Asian-type dress and the nationality of those who wear them' wallchart... rolleyes.gif


Here's what I said:


Well I'm assuming he was a Labour MSP, because that's the platform virtually all the Asians politicians used until they realised that they could get an even better press by wearing kilts!


It turns out that he had already jumped on the kilted bandwagon SPARROT. Glasgow is FULL of Labour 'Asian' cooncillors.

Oh, and I DID point out that it was merely an assumption.

What exactly WAS your point child? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-07 12:28:43
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 7 2009, 12:22 PM) [snapback]575609[/snapback]
That you are a t***. Point proven it seems. laugh.gif

It may seem so to you. Those who peruse this board regularly may think otherwise. Instead of irritating more intelligent and learned posters, you'd do well to gain some life experience before presuming to pontificate on matters well beyond your ken.

Included in that remit, you may scurry off and get your hole for the first time. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-07 16:58:26
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Feb 7 2009, 10:16 AM) [snapback]575547[/snapback]
I take it she left you for one?


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QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Feb 7 2009, 12:06 PM) [snapback]575599[/snapback]
It's still my ultimate goal tongue.gif

The older woman has always been my fortie however I did, ashamedly blush.gif , go with a rather younger female in the past.
When I was a teenager I ended up being ravaged by a 40+ yr old woman, she put me in the mood for more older woman and so I continued down that route.

I'd agree with MJ a 40ish yr old woman seems to be the ones at their best.

So MJ does that mean you still have to look forward to your good lady reaching her peak rolleyes.gif




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mortonjag 2009-02-07 17:02:04
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 7 2009, 12:32 PM) [snapback]575612[/snapback]
I need no 'experience' to state:
1. Bashir Ahmad was an SNP MSP
2. Your 'assumptions' are meaningless and crass pieces of turd.
3. You are a t*** with a misguided sense of his own importance. Or ought that to read impotence?

My assumption was incorrect SPARROT. No harm in that and hardly something for you to wax orgasmic about.

You really SHOULD get your hole soon. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-07 17:04:58
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 7 2009, 12:38 PM) [snapback]575615[/snapback]
So are you, and you're a ........... rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2009-02-07 17:07:37
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 7 2009, 12:21 AM) [snapback]575379[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDShe looks a nice girl-I mean somebody you'd like as a friend.
mortonjag 2009-02-07 17:09:57
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Feb 7 2009, 05:07 PM) [snapback]575698[/snapback]
We are now down to 7th, level on points and GD with Ross County but they are ahead cos they've scored more goals.

Do they still have a game in hand over us?
mortonjag 2009-02-07 17:22:21
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Feb 7 2009, 05:11 PM) [snapback]575702[/snapback]
Yep, and Dunfermline (5th) have two games in hand over us. The good thing is the teams below us don't!

So in 'real' terms we're back down to eighth. We HAVE been doing better for sure, but in such a tight league Irons needs to learn how to make the most of games instead of thinking he's done enough.
mortonjag 2009-02-07 17:28:28
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 7 2009, 05:11 PM) [snapback]575701[/snapback]
Wax orgasmic? Someone's forgotten their techniques... laugh.gif

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Don't be silly SPARROT laugh.gif

Hopefully your first shag will not be such a let down to your boyfriend as your grammar is to yourself.
mortonjag 2009-02-07 17:30:19
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 7 2009, 05:10 PM) [snapback]575700[/snapback]
Really?

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mortonjag 2009-02-07 17:32:19 Seventh! I thought Iain said we we seventh equal with County.

That's MUCH better! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-07 17:34:02
QUOTE(centralTON @ Feb 7 2009, 05:28 PM) [snapback]575707[/snapback]
Went along to watch Brian and Jamie today, both were poor. Brian was played as part of a two man attack which was unfortunately starved of service and was subbed around the 70 min mark.

Jamie started off in the middle of midfield, but, was never really able to take any sort of control. He was overshadowed by the other on-loan player in midfield (Paul Weaver from Ayr, I think) and was pushed up to play left wing for the final 10 mins. He also had 4 very poor free-kicks.

Saw nothing from either to suggest that they would be any more effective than what we already have.
Albion Rovers nos. 10 and 11 both looked like they could play at a higher level.

Most exiting thing to happen was meeting Nachoking, there's a dedicated man for you, all the way to Stenny on a freezing day to watch 2 Morton players.

I could think of other adjectives! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-07 17:35:02
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 7 2009, 05:32 PM) [snapback]575710[/snapback]
You assume too much. She's just a ride.

That's very rude.
mortonjag 2009-02-07 17:37:14
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 7 2009, 05:33 PM) [snapback]575712[/snapback]
As above, bawbag.

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mortonjag 2009-02-07 17:52:19
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 7 2009, 05:34 PM) [snapback]575714[/snapback]
Right - Irons is to blame for Ross County drawing with St Johnstone and Dundee winning? What a fanny you are.

Here's what I said SPARROT:

in such a tight league Irons needs to learn how to make the most of games instead of thinking he's done enough.

It's obvious you've never seen a fanny-anatomical or metaphorical.

Grammar 3/10

Logic 0/10

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mortonjag 2009-02-07 21:19:20
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 7 2009, 06:01 PM) [snapback]575733[/snapback]
Today's results make f*** all difference to either our own prospects or Irons' (lack of) managerial nous.
So... which other intangibles are you going to use to bring you opinions up? The Scottish Cup draw? Climate change? The Middle East?
Bottom line - your myopic opinion holds resolute regardless of results or reason. Yet you continue to spout it at seemingly random opportunities. Hence making you a complete and utter fanny.



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That you hold me in such slight regard my child is nothing but reassurance.

Remember to use a heavy duty condom. [attachment=5189:winkiss.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-07 21:24:12
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 7 2009, 09:05 PM) [snapback]575800[/snapback]
I think there should be a separate forum for clobber fetishists. biggrin.gif

I'd rather bulldoze them off a pier. mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-07 21:34:04 OK-Jag's about to stick his neck out.

My daughter had been going steady with a well respected older boy for about a year, but was still about fifteen and a half. She approached me with ' Dad, would it be OK if I go on the pill'? I wasn't taken aback-in fact I was very impressed and felt quite humbled that she was able to approach her father like that. She'd never been the 'sleep around' type, and Chris was her first serious boyfriend. They stayed together for five or six years before she met Vinnie to whom she's now happily married. They have one son and a baby on the way. I didn't think any less of Chris at the time either-were the two of them supposed to wait until that magic split second of her sixteenth birthday, and then mindlessly throw caution to the wind and shag like demented rabbits to make up for lost time?
mortonjag 2009-02-07 21:40:44
QUOTE(Deego @ Feb 7 2009, 09:26 PM) [snapback]575810[/snapback]
Even me?! sad.gif

Nope-only the straight gear geeks!

Oh and.... [attachment=5190:secret.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-07 21:45:16 The prof.
mortonjag 2009-02-07 21:46:58
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 7 2009, 09:06 PM) [snapback]575801[/snapback]
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Do you have no respect for dead * potential ethnic slur removed*'s? blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-07 22:00:34
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 7 2009, 09:46 PM) [snapback]575816[/snapback]
I think the point is that THEY do, but the skunks DON'T. Therefore Ebburdeen are getting BRAND NEW lavvies for second-hand prices. When you're as tight as a crab's arse, as they are up there, that's a result!!!

EH-the Skunks lavvies were hoaching with users.
mortonjag 2009-02-08 08:14:01 Time to grasp the nettle Bawheid. A simple 'Yes' or 'No' vote now when everybody's in a bit of a turmoil and the polls are looking favourable.

You won't, of course, because you don't want to know the people's real desires and feelings. Another twelve months of your self destructive buffoonery and this chance may be gone for a generation. You and David Irons have remarkable similarities. mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-08 08:43:25
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 8 2009, 12:10 AM) [snapback]575846[/snapback]
Because he's the funniest alias ever. He's so funny that a wee ball of hard s*** nearly breached my sphincter, although I eat a lot of All Bran so he might not have had anything to do with it.

Haw haw can be rather entertaining. The problem is that, be he an alias (multiple poster) I expect him to be hearing today from Great King Rat, who ordered poor wee mouton to be spit roasted.

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mortonjag 2009-02-08 08:48:05 I wonder what the view of the forum fuzz will be! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-08 09:07:13
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 8 2009, 03:21 AM) [snapback]575874[/snapback]
I dont think in this day and age where kids are growing up a lot faster that there is much difference between the age of 17 and 14. Esepscially when you consider the maturity of a 17 year old boy to that of a 14 year old girl. It may be against the law but then so is underage drinking etc. If two people 3 years apart have found a real connection then i don't find it too hard to believe or understand.

Maybe i'd feel different if it was my daughter but just now it just seems like moral outrage for the sake of moral outrage's sake. They are both kids, and obviously mature enough to be able to be out and open about it, and to have spoke to their parents about their relationship.

Something unknown to this massage board!

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mortonjag 2009-02-08 09:45:01
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 8 2009, 09:19 AM) [snapback]575887[/snapback]
First off, none or few comments from the Jag in this thread would be greatly appreciated.

Deal?
Ok, I have - what I would call - quite an important job interview tomorrow morning. I am certain posters have said in the past that they have been the ones carrying out interviews so I am wondering, what are those carrying out interviews generally looking for?

And I don't mean the things regarding appearance and how you carry yourself off in the interview, or how well suited you are for the job.

I'm meaning more how much preparation you would expect the person being interviewed to have done before hand?

For example, the job description on mines lists two computer programmes I am not familiar with. So I have looked in to them, looked at what they do and how well they claim to do them and also made note of the advantages that they say using said programme will generate. I have not, however, went in to how the actual software operates or how one would go about using it as I am, from past experience anyway, very good at sitting with an unknown computer programme, being shown the basics and picking it up from there...which I consider to be a real advantage to a prospectus employer.

I have also noted areas in the duties and responsibilities that I know I have done in the passed and made mental notes for each when I have had to perform them under unusual circumstances and how I achieved the desired goal during this. This is so I will feel prepared to answer any possible 'curve-ball' questions they may throw at me. For the areas I have not performed I feel I will be able to put across a good enough case as to why these duties will be picked up quickly.

Lastly, how much would one expect a potential employer to know of the company they could be working for? I have went through the website and took about a page worth of notes so as to have some form of underlying knowledge but it would be near impossible to go in knowing everything inside out.

So, any help would be greatly appreciated.


Don't be ridiculous-I always try to help posters in serious matters. You've given very little information about the type of job, or for example-private sector, public sector, small or large organisation.

I've a fair wee bit of experience of job interviews on both sides of the desk!

If you were a burd, there are a few basics I'd be highlighting, but in your case I recommend dressing as smartly as possible-Mr McArthur will be able to help.

Second piece of advice-pause for a couple of seconds and digest each question before answering-shows that you're thinking about it and gives you time to- and always make good eye contact with the person who directed the question.

If you don't know an answer, say so, adding something like-'That's an area I'll need to address in the near future'.

etc, etc. The tips are endless.


As I said at the beginning it all depends very much on what they're really after-some prospective employers will completely disregard intricate knowledge and plump for a candidate who's obviously got what it takes.

The more you tell us, the more we can help you!
mortonjag 2009-02-08 10:00:22 I'd like a truly independent Scotland, and a truly democratic Scotland too. Until we have independence our selection of representatives is utterly flawed. Those who are in favour have to take or leave that baw heided buffoon who is more interested in hanging on to his perceived power than anything else

There he is-the big cheese in Scotland-he can't go any higher-he has all the public acclaim and popularity he ever wanted, a whacking salary, and a shower of minions to rip his fanciful election pledges to ribbons while the wealthy spin doctors keep him safe.

Does he want a referendum? Dare he RISK a referendum? I don't think for one minute Moira would let him! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-08 10:10:12
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 8 2009, 09:50 AM) [snapback]575908[/snapback]
Impressive Sir, thanks!

The ins and outs of the job are not a worry to me as it is not a kick in the baws off what I currently do, however it would open the door to allow me to qualify professionally. Something I now wish to achieve, and will be putting that across to them.






What I think I'm hearing is that you're looking for a step up with your current employer.

If that's the case (even if it's not) you may do well to go down the 'I enjoy my present job which I believe I do very efficiently, but feel I need something more challenging' avenue.
mortonjag 2009-02-08 10:20:53
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 8 2009, 10:14 AM) [snapback]575917[/snapback]
You have been proved to be wrong so many times on Salmond. Just admit you have got it so horribly wrong rolleyes.gif

And if you had any real knowledge of politics,
you should realise Salmond can't just call a referendum. Just like the budget a couple of weeks ago, the Bill could be voted down by the opposition parties.
The timing of a referendum could be crucial to the outcome. That's why I fully agree with SNP policy in their manifesto.
A Bill will be put to parliament on Burns Day 2010, if the Bill passes, then we have a vote on St Andrew's Day 2010.

That's it Spurtle-because I stand on the sidelines and look in I see the whole game-unlike yourself. dry.gif

A bill could be voted down-what the hell-we'll never have a referendum without the bloody bill and the polls suggest the time may well be right! blink.gif A small degree of stabilisation has already been seen on a nationwide basis. I really think he should be 'going for it' now, and I equally believe he's entirely happy to cling onto power, even if that means we'll never see independence during his tenure.
mortonjag 2009-02-08 12:14:11
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 8 2009, 11:24 AM) [snapback]575934[/snapback]
^ I agree with this.

No need for a manager then?
mortonjag 2009-02-08 15:37:40
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 8 2009, 02:58 PM) [snapback]576018[/snapback]
Out of interest, what would these be?

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Well I DID say that I hadn't a clue about the nature of the employer. In some instances I'd be advising a short skirt and tasteful peep of cleavage, while in others I'd be advocating quite the opposite, with a focus on professional smartness, and NOT overdoing the-shall we say- femininity! blush.gif

Anyway Puggs is not a burd, so it's irrelevant here.
mortonjag 2009-02-08 15:42:04
QUOTE(Zutons @ Feb 8 2009, 01:00 PM) [snapback]575977[/snapback]
The 10 points was well justified.

It's not easy being a Mod on here sometimes but on this saga I agree 100%.

How would you know? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-08 15:47:47 The topic is supposed to be about Bawheid the bottler-not the virtues or otherwise of independence! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-08 16:25:46 This link might stimulate some debate-bear in mind that the GMC is a crusty and conservative organisation!

If they ask for help

You may be particularly interested in this part:


Under the Sexual Offences Act 2003, doctors are exempt from prosecution for "aiding and abetting" child sex through providing advice if their aim is to prevent sexual infections or pregnancy. It means they do not have to inform police.

The truth is that youngsters embark on their sexual exploits at varying ages. In Willy Man's example-which IS the focus of this debate, the shagging was already established. In my experience kids who have become sexually active remain so, and any attempt to discipline them merely makes them more sleekit (and often more liable to unwanted pregnancies).

I'm astonished that some of our otherwise broad minded posters seem so blinkered on this one!

So long as there are cocks and fannies, kids will experiment-it's only natural in case you hadn't noticed!
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By all means concentrate on ACTIVE sex education-try to encourage weans to acknowledge the inherent dangers of promiscuity, and have them up to date with contraception, but listen, you Mummies, Daddies and Holy Willies - it's been happening since man evolved and some bloody law that makes it wrong at 15 and right at 17 ain't going to change it!
mortonjag 2009-02-08 16:38:13
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 8 2009, 03:51 PM) [snapback]576037[/snapback]
It was, but you were proved wrong again ! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Don't talk shite!
mortonjag 2009-02-08 17:04:47
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 8 2009, 12:18 PM) [snapback]575957[/snapback]
Against pish like Clyde, not really.

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I remember similar pish (not necessarily from yourself) before the last game at Airdrie! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-08 17:07:25
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 8 2009, 03:38 PM) [snapback]576028[/snapback]
Really? How's that working out for him? laugh.gif

How is it NOT? blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-08 17:15:42
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 8 2009, 04:57 PM) [snapback]576060[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-02-08 17:20:36
QUOTE(Loveless @ Feb 8 2009, 05:10 PM) [snapback]576066[/snapback]
Depends on the job in question.

If I'm going for an interview it is absolutely a two way process; in my line of work it's easy right now to pretty much choose where you work.

If Puggsy is applying for a training post (a CA or ACCA or something like that) I would say it's very much a two way affair.
All of these training posts will be accredited, but some will be better than others, if he's going to train there he may as well find out as much as possible before he makes the decision if he wants to work there.

I have a friend who is an accountant who was actually turning down job offers for about 4 months last year, just living off savings because he wasn't satisfied with the people doing the interviews. He turned down a job offer because when he had been at the interview, the interviewer had failed to shake his hand, which he considered very rude.

They don't all have DT's.
mortonjag 2009-02-08 18:22:39
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Feb 8 2009, 05:43 PM) [snapback]576095[/snapback]
Your opinion will probably change when you have a daughter of your own, believe me.

Let's face it your Majesty, nobody wants his or her daughter to be an under age 'sleep around' and I guess all parents dread being told 'I'm pregnant'.

That, however, changes nothing in the big bad world out there. No matter how well kids have been brought up, and no matter how much sex education they've had, under age liaisons are commonplace-even in kids from the 'best' families.

I'm speaking from professional AND personal experience. I've already posted the story about my daughter. I don't believe she was 'bad' nor do I believe her boyfriend (eighteen if I recall) was 'bad' either. She asked me if it was 'OK to go on the pill'.

I ask YOU-what would have happened if I'd said 'No'?

Parents are sometimes incredibly unaware of what's going on right under their noses. Keep an open mind and always expect the unexpected!
mortonjag 2009-02-08 18:29:53
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 8 2009, 06:18 PM) [snapback]576112[/snapback]
Because Airdrie are pish and bottom of the league.

Maybe he thinks it's better getting a regular game and being appreciated in a team that's 'pish and bottom of the league' than being ignored by a Manager who's pish and whose team's not that much better! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-08 18:34:18
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 8 2009, 05:46 PM) [snapback]576098[/snapback]
I think you have just made a complete fool of yourself there.... laugh.gif

It was this one then!
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mortonjag 2009-02-08 18:36:05 Bon voyage!
mortonjag 2009-02-08 20:22:03
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 8 2009, 06:31 PM) [snapback]576118[/snapback]
And guess who made the stupid error that cost the game when we (IMO) well on top of our opponents? An underperforming player.
It shouldn't matter who's in the dugout against the relegation cannon fodder - if the players on the park show determination and play to our strengths then we will win.

As I asked-can we do without a manager?
mortonjag 2009-02-08 20:24:27
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Feb 8 2009, 06:58 PM) [snapback]576128[/snapback]
He was getting a regular game for us too.
He was pish, incidentally.

NO he was NOT pish-granted his form dropped in his last spell with us and I was critical of that, but over the piece he was a very good servant to our club. It seems to me that just about every player who leaves us for whatever reason automatically becomes branded as 'pish'!
mortonjag 2009-02-08 20:27:53
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 8 2009, 07:50 PM) [snapback]576154[/snapback]
laugh.gif I'm a trained salesman, I only ask probing and pertinent questions.

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until you come on here Peter? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-08 20:31:36
QUOTE(Zutons @ Feb 8 2009, 08:08 PM) [snapback]576162[/snapback]
Can't see saturday being on. sad.gif

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Could they not just postpone Friday instead?
mortonjag 2009-02-08 20:40:40
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 8 2009, 06:25 PM) [snapback]576115[/snapback]
The question is when does the age difference become acceptable? It is, in the end, only defined in law. Romeo and Juliet would be a good example of a huge age difference I guess where no one seems to show moral outrage.

14 to 17 is a 3 year age difference. I'm 22 and have pulled an 18 year old...is it different?

I don't know, then again...I don't have a daughter of my own!

Edit to also add;

Willowman, if you had a 14 year old son instead and he was pumping a 17 year old girl...how would you react?

NOPE Puggs-you've got that quite wrong IMO, though I do understand where you're coming from.

When a man uses the old 'I thought she was older' excuse for under age sex, I agree that the relative ages may be relevant-that is often the case in prosecutions.

If, however, two people willingly enter a loving relationship with no parental objection it should not matter whether the man is eighteen, twenty eight, or forty eight for that matter. The law should not, and will not pursue a prosecution.

The fact that it DOES matter to so many is merely a measure of intolerance.
mortonjag 2009-02-08 20:44:41
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 8 2009, 08:28 PM) [snapback]576185[/snapback]
Cheers everyone for the advice! It is very much appreciated.

And Boozehound. I don't have a hairy face anymore wink.gif

Wee Nickerless might drop you a bung for your secret! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-08 20:46:20
QUOTE(Deego @ Feb 8 2009, 08:26 PM) [snapback]576181[/snapback]
Like who?

Like what I said! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-08 20:49:50
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 8 2009, 08:15 PM) [snapback]576164[/snapback]
My general rule is I wont go near anything that is still of the age that they would be wearing a school uniform during daylight hours and not just for a kick now and then (and for anyone trying to work that out that is 17 and younger). As far as older goes...I would not put a limit on it. If a women looks attractive then how much older shouldn't be an issue.

(I'm 22 I should add)
Now here is a wee conundrum;

Say you were in the Jimmy or - heaven help you - Red one night drunk and ended up with some lassie who you didn't find out until the next morning was 16 (and I have been informed of 15 year olds that go Red...luckily I don't actually visit the establishment any more) how would you react? On the one side that is someone who is probably getting ready to sit their standard grades and still calls adults miss and sir. But on the other, how were you meant to know any better? The way lassies dress these days it's a struggle at times to spot the under-ager from ones in their mid-twenties and it is not exactly your job to go around ID-ing anyone near you.

So...how would you feel in that situation?

Privileged! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-08 20:56:28 ...and why on this forum-well quite simply this is not an attack on Mr Rae, but if I post it elsewhere that's how it will be construed.

Is Golden Casket a middle of the road confectioner, or do they just produce cheap rubbish?

I hasten to add that I love Mr Rae's soor Plooms which of course I buy in the big yellow bag!
mortonjag 2009-02-08 21:03:29
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Feb 8 2009, 08:57 PM) [snapback]576204[/snapback]
McLaughlin was never good enough, and no one's changed their opinion on him drastically now he's left. He had a good spell at the start of the season we won the Second Division, but was mediocre other than that.

He was a damned good defensive midfielder in the second, and in the First he's holding his own as a more attacking player.

As I said-leave the Ton and you'll automatically be branded as pish. It seems that for some there is never any middle ground. I'm not saying the boy's brilliant, but neither is, for example, big Pantaloons, who has had rave reports more than once since he arrived.
mortonjag 2009-02-08 21:08:48
QUOTE(Zutons @ Feb 8 2009, 09:03 PM) [snapback]576213[/snapback]
The current weather conditions are terrible and with the forecast being very cold this week. I guess it all depends if clyde want the game on (ie Injuries and Suspenses.), There's ways and means of calling a game off ie not putting covers on knowing game will be off and saying bbc got it wrong. They do have good covers.

They do have quite a few players missing this Saturday and with being a 6 pointer, We will find out on friday. I'm gonna say they will call for a friday Inspection.

Edit. I have been wrong (Once). shutup.gif

Are you some kind of specialist? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-09 06:48:31
QUOTE(Toby @ Feb 8 2009, 10:09 PM) [snapback]576262[/snapback]
I seriously doubt it crossed anyone at Rangers' minds that we had a game called off up there 3 years ago unsure.gif ?

Which just goes to show what odious little fuckwits the Huns are.
mortonjag 2009-02-09 06:52:53
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 8 2009, 10:36 PM) [snapback]576271[/snapback]
Especially considering that McGowan was told as a teenager that he had virtually no chance of making it... so he duly got his head down and bloody made it :)

............and it was the best scale model of the Titanic ever seen.
mortonjag 2009-02-09 07:01:52
QUOTE(larmton @ Feb 9 2009, 12:58 AM) [snapback]576300[/snapback]
I'm quite partial to a treacle toffee now and then.

From Buchanans? The Toffees seem to be the 'Quality' product from Fort Matilda, and I've heard they're good, but I don't chew toffees. I once tried a bag of Mr Rae's Liquorice Allsorts and they were poor compared to Bertie's-FAR too sugary, but his Soor Plooms really are good.
mortonjag 2009-02-09 07:10:17
QUOTE(Yoda @ Feb 8 2009, 10:13 PM) [snapback]576264[/snapback]
Just back in from Inverclyde Royal. It is really slippery on the roads up there and in town, dropped my Auntie off on Finnart Street and I was struggling to keep the car going in a straight line, going everywhere in second gear. One of the nurses told me it took her an hour and twenty minutes to get to work from the top of the Port.

I've got a lot of driving to do tomorrow, so I hope it stays off. I don't want to be a killjoy because it looks gorgeous, but I do need to get to work. unsure.gif

It's blooming freezing as well, I feel so sorry for the poster with no heating.

You shouldn't have abandoned her in the snow, though Aunties can be a pain-the extra weight would have given you more traction!
mortonjag 2009-02-09 07:15:28
QUOTE(SramTon @ Feb 8 2009, 11:49 PM) [snapback]576287[/snapback]
I don't think Tony Blair's decision not to give his child the MMR did much for public confidence either.

I blame that indescribably ugly, evil, and acquisitive wretch of a wife-one of the few humans whom I'd gladly torture to death personally. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-09 07:23:01 It's not too bad here-I'm just about to walk the new doggie.


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mortonjag 2009-02-09 09:13:11
QUOTE(hayfever @ Feb 9 2009, 08:58 AM) [snapback]576328[/snapback]
Magic. Definitely the boy initiating everything then?

Grown up man! ph34r.gif


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Indeed-it's funny how the wee lassie isn't up for a safety pin through her pishflaps.
mortonjag 2009-02-09 09:52:16
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Feb 9 2009, 09:46 AM) [snapback]576339[/snapback]
Dissappointing to hear Jamie didn’t grab this chance to show he can still play. I’ve always argued he should be given another chance at Cappielow, but if he doesn’t regain his enthusiasm / form at ES then even I’ll have to reluctantly admit his Morton career’s over.

It’s a mystery to me that he can’t motivate himself even for a burst of a few games, must be something seriously wrong to cause such a loss in confidence in such an undoubtedly talented player.

I wouldn't write him off just yet, but I do agree with what you say. Very puzzling indeed.
mortonjag 2009-02-09 10:01:59 [quote name='Alibi' date='Feb 9 2009, 09:48 AM' post='576342']
So MJ, did you ever prescribe thalidomide to any of your patients in good faith?

I'm not exactly sure what your point is!

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mortonjag 2009-02-09 10:07:57
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 9 2009, 10:05 AM) [snapback]576354[/snapback]
Is Dr Mortonjag really Dr Mengele? laugh.gif

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Only when it comes to political prats!
mortonjag 2009-02-09 11:47:44
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 9 2009, 10:21 AM) [snapback]576359[/snapback]
I don't really understand the criticism here. McGowan was a successful signing for us...there can be no doubt about that, whether he was overrated or not (I don't think he was, personally). He was absolutely vital to us winning the league that year, and has been missed since he left in my opinion.

Given that Morton cannot sign players who are the finished article (such a player will rarely be found playing in the first division), I can only think that identifying players like McGowan, who had proven he could hack first team football in his spell with us (unlike other OF players such as Dale), who are long term investments, not to mention with potential sell on value, is as good a way forward as any.

On the mertis of Stevenson v McGowan...God only knows what has happened to Stevenson, but McGowan seems to be doing well for himself at Hamilton, earning good reviews in an improving top flight team, and always seems to have his head screwed on in interviews. Like anyone, I'd love to see a consistent, on form Stevenson in the team...but there's not been much evidence of late that he's capable of that.

My criticism is not of Paul McGowan!

QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Feb 9 2009, 11:18 AM) [snapback]576375[/snapback]
mortonjag just likes to be different. rolleyes.gif
As for Stevenson, it's just like I've said all along.

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mortonjag 2009-02-09 11:53:46
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 9 2009, 11:15 AM) [snapback]576373[/snapback]
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What is happening now with the Autism spectrum which include Aspergers and Tourettes rather than those sufferers been branded either bad boys or looneys that were looked away we put a name and some research to these disorders .

So if there is a link what percentage of children who have had the MMR are proportionally higher than those people with the syndrome who have not recieved the jab.

Did you know that if you have an autistic child the chances of having another child with autism is 1 in 5, which points to genetics rather than the MMR.

Not only that Chris, but I wonder what the statistics are for serious complications of measles and mumps in children who were not immunised. I could easily trawl that out and imagine it would make for very uncomfortable reading.
mortonjag 2009-02-09 11:56:14
QUOTE(dazed @ Feb 9 2009, 11:21 AM) [snapback]576376[/snapback]
Thats quite a hound you have Mj !

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She's Jinty, and we got her from the Scottish Greyhound Sanctuary. She's only been with us for four days and is already showing signs of becoming a superb and biddable friend.
mortonjag 2009-02-09 12:01:32
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 9 2009, 11:50 AM) [snapback]576391[/snapback]
I understand that...it's the criticism of us pushing the boat out to try to sign him that I don't really understand. To me, that was the club showing the kind of ambition (a willingness to spend good money on a player who had shown himself capable, possessing some promise) that they are often criticised for lacking.

.....and to me that was Rae yet again overriding his manager's wishes-JM said enough was enough, and that Shoogly was going OTT, but the old fud remained single minded, and as a result we signed nobody with the £100k he was happy to shell out. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-09 13:47:02
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 9 2009, 12:09 PM) [snapback]576406[/snapback]
See, this is where I don't really follow. I don't think JM said anything of the sort. He said that he told Rae how much he thought McGowan was worth, and that the chairman had bid more than that. I read that, at the time (and given the close relationship between the two) as JM attempting to praise the chairman for not giving up on the signing, and being willing to push the boat out. I think the quote was taken a little but out of context on here to mean something different.

I got the impression, and still get the impression that Mr Rae will override his managers wishes on signings. I've heard it rumoured that DI has not been allowed to sign any more players in the last couple of months while Shoogly put in another £100k bid for Gowsa which of course was rejected.

You mention the 'close relationship' between Rae and JM. I saw it more that JM kept his mouth shut! I bet he'd happily have had three thirty grand players for that £100k! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-09 13:58:21
QUOTE(Malt @ Feb 9 2009, 11:30 AM) [snapback]576380[/snapback]
Christ!!! Next season ticket holders will have their own seat in the cowshed with a PA going to the pie stall for them.

Get a winning team and the fans will follow!

Correct-that is far and away the most important thing-success and the possibility of promotion will bring the crowds back. The rest should merely be icing on the cake.
mortonjag 2009-02-09 14:03:37
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 9 2009, 02:01 PM) [snapback]576430[/snapback]
Thing is though, I'm not sure any team could afford to sign three decent players in the January window. There's not much spare money floating around at the moment.

What about the £100k Rae purportedly offered again for Gowsa? blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-09 14:50:44
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 9 2009, 02:35 PM) [snapback]576436[/snapback]
Precisely , I was only giving what I have been told by experts in the field of Autism but the only thing I know of measles is it can kill .

On the case of thaladamide what percentage of those mothers perscribed had affected offspring .

What is more traumatic going for one jab or 3 ?

So if there was a conspiracy how much extra would it be to issue a separate jab and save on the cost of looking after more cases of Autism ?

Just picked this up from Wiki:

In February 2009, The Sunday Times reported that a further investigation by the newspaper had revealed that Wakefield "changed and misreported results in his research, creating the appearance of a possible link with autism", citing evidence obtained by the newspaper from medical records and interviews with witnesses, and supported by evidence presented to the GMC. The newspaper went on to state that the rates of inoculation fell from 92% (very slightly below measles herd immunity) to below 80% after the publication of Wakefield's study, and that confirmed cases of measles in England and Wales have risen from 56 in 1998 to 1348 in 2008, with two child fatalities

...and that takes no account of many, many more cases of brain damage, to say nothing of complications from Mumps. It also excludes Scottish figures..
mortonjag 2009-02-09 19:38:04
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Feb 9 2009, 04:35 PM) [snapback]576464[/snapback]
I have a question.

What would you do if your 17 year old daughter came home and said

''Dad, this is my 34 year old boyfriend, I am going to get married to him and move to his country''

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So many imponderables there WDE!
mortonjag 2009-02-09 19:45:19
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 9 2009, 05:22 PM) [snapback]576481[/snapback]
im not currently modding, but gkr and me when im back cant read every post so use the report function rolleyes.gif

Right-consider yourself duly reported.

'Can't read every post'!

NOT GOOD ENOUGH. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-09 19:48:21
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 9 2009, 05:07 PM) [snapback]576479[/snapback]
Would you care to elaborate on why you think objecting to the idea of being ruled from another country is unacceptable leads you to that conclusion?

I agree entirely. It's an absolute disgrace that Great Britain is ruled by Belgium.
mortonjag 2009-02-09 19:52:40
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 9 2009, 03:59 PM) [snapback]576456[/snapback]
That's cruelty to animals right there. Get that **** jaikit aff that dug.

TonInDublin

I'm surprised at your higgorance-especially from Ireland the home of Greyhound racing. I can't stand clothes on pets TiD, but apparently greyhounds have so little insulation (body fat) that they really DO feel the cold.

Having said that, I will only allow her to wear it in extreme weather! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-09 19:54:31
QUOTE(TuxTon @ Feb 9 2009, 05:03 PM) [snapback]576477[/snapback]
any1 know where to get 1????
I'm desperate!! laugh.gif

Try a large tea tray-no kiddin'!
mortonjag 2009-02-09 19:58:03
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 9 2009, 07:14 PM) [snapback]576509[/snapback]
Aye, but come on Nacho, there's always room for manouvre in the male escort business.

holesale.
mortonjag 2009-02-09 20:14:08
QUOTE(Loveless @ Feb 9 2009, 08:07 PM) [snapback]576534[/snapback]
Sorry I get your pardon, I meant to say people who are members of a profession, this doesn't include footballers.

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Indeed-the term 'Professional' has lost any meaning those days. Only yesterday I saw an advert for a 'Professional dog walker'! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-09 21:00:41
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 9 2009, 08:43 PM) [snapback]576553[/snapback]
What gold?



here?



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mortonjag 2009-02-09 21:12:02
QUOTE(Loveless @ Feb 9 2009, 08:32 PM) [snapback]576545[/snapback]
I agree, although I think it's more that people don't know the difference between "a professional" and "one who is a member of a profession", and often confuse the two.

How would you define such people?
mortonjag 2009-02-09 21:25:01
QUOTE(Loveless @ Feb 9 2009, 09:17 PM) [snapback]576572[/snapback]
I'd say anyone who gets paid for a specific job could be described as "a professional...". Could be gardener, accountant or even prostitute.

A job which is a profession on the other hand will have a specific body with which they have to be registered before they can work legally. I suppose it's the whole concept of being registered and being able to be "struck off" that makes the distinction for me.


Classically, there were only three professions: Divinity, Medicine, and Law, and I don't really see any reason to change that, though I'd possibly allow a little latitude provided a degree has been obtained from a proper university. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-10 06:46:42
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 9 2009, 11:25 PM) [snapback]576622[/snapback]
Heres a really zany, wacky, madcap idea to get people to go along to Morton games.

How about a football team that they WANT to go and see play attractive football, who aren't a shower of half-arsed wee neds treating the support like they're buttoned up the back.

and

A chairman and board of directors that dont treat the fans with contempt, and club employees that dont try and get supporters banned from entering away grounds for no apparent reason other than they dont like them.

Morton folk need a feeling of belonging, and a feeling of pride in Morton which is not universal in our support anymore.

That is just SOOOOOO TRUE!

I'm already sensing that Stuart Duncan's fanfare supping from the poison chalice is having the desired effect.

C'mon Stuart (or should that now be MR DUNCAN unsure.gif)-you're supposed to be a fan first and foremost, you ARE (or should that be 'were') one of the humble posters on this wee massage board, and there's currently a thread on 'emails', which is scathingly critical of the club's relationship with the fans.

WHERE ARE YOU STUART?
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mortonjag 2009-02-10 06:55:21 Ah wish yese would all stop yer whinin' an bleatin'. See youse negativity boys-yese are never happier than when yese ur havin' a good old moan-well ah'll tell yese whit -stop girnin an gripin' like weans an' email the effin club! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-10 07:04:46 Nothing like putting a positive spin on things. I can see absences from work with RSI trebling in the next year with employers asking the Pope to make a special announcement re-affirming the Church's stance on wanking.
mortonjag 2009-02-10 07:07:26
QUOTE(ton1901 @ Feb 9 2009, 10:32 PM) [snapback]576599[/snapback]
unfortunately so was i

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So how many lazy old women have you shagged in the last year? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-10 07:10:46
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Feb 9 2009, 10:43 PM) [snapback]576605[/snapback]

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mortonjag 2009-02-10 07:15:57
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 9 2009, 11:10 PM) [snapback]576616[/snapback]
And why should i use the 'report function'?

I dont want to report anyone, I just want to highlight the blatant double standards amongst those who are moderating, including yourself, who think its perfectly okay to defame Hazel Irvine and Ally McCoist but not Peter Weatherston, and who also seem to think its acceptable to call Homosexuals and the Disabled any number of offensive and derogatory terms but not Pakistanis.

As for Warn 20%, you can take an educated guess of what I think about your warnings....

A mere starter you are matey! laugh.gif

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 9 2009, 11:26 PM) [snapback]576623[/snapback]
There are double standards at play no doubt. Sometimes I wonder if this board could do without moderators as most racist, sectarian and discriminatory opinions are usually challenged by other posters anyway. Maybe the whole thing could be self regulating. I suppose the dangers are that the 'challenges' potentially escalate from the verbal to the physical, and you get PM's from psychos who threaten to pan yer windaes in (or much worse). laugh.gif

Since we're on this topic, one of my biggest grumps (historically) is that 'anonymous' club insiders have made personal attacks on posters while the Mods have knowingly done nothing UNTIL the said insiders complained. That is VERY sick! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-10 07:55:11 Record spending on NHS


...and before Alibi, Spurtle and the others perform their mandatory knee jerking, goose stepping salute to Bawheid, I commend them to READ the article.

It may well be that the SNP has done its very best in this instance, and I acknowledge that funding is ultimately a function of our being a British Nation, but in the face of the lowest annual increase in real terms since devolution, that hirsute little harpy expects intelligent voters to applaud loudly in approbation, when she squeaks:


"This record funding for NHS boards across Scotland underlines this government's unshakeable commitment to our publicly owned health service."

Unshakeably committed to spend less and maintain a publicly owned health service. In little Nickerless's world two and two clearly make anything!! The woman is either deluded or an amoral liability. blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-10 08:55:30
QUOTE(HamCam @ Feb 10 2009, 08:43 AM) [snapback]576656[/snapback]
Nope. Interesting that in your knee jerk reaction you seem happy to sacrifice all in an organisation including the majority on the shop floor who may have been doing a reasonable job.

Love how you are happy to join with the media and political witch hunt of the Banks. Half expecting you to start a thread on bring back hanging for bankers. blush.gif Reality is our current economic difficulties are down to the majority in society being greedy b*****ds. More credit sir - thank you very much, increase the mortgage and spend more - course house values only go one way, sit on the dole and find a new benefit - hang on a minute I feel a limp coming on. Has the bloated public sector not also got in on the act with public servants being rewarded with bonuses - probably for good attendance or something like that.

By the way using the term 'with respect' is a sure sign of a former public schoolboy who decided in Uni that they would only do shooting and fishing in the holidays and maybe change their name to Tony or Fidel in the hope that some leftie harpie would think them street enough to loosen the tension in their engorged plums. Thankfully dadas allowance (probably from working in the banking sector) still arrives each week to allow such idealogical pretensions.

By the way 2 - some in Woolies did recieve a bonus !

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I have some sympathy with your points, but I strongly reject the notion that the poor bankers have had their reluctant wee arms twisted up their backs by a greedy populace! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-10 08:58:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 10 2009, 08:00 AM) [snapback]576651[/snapback]
In a paltalk room listening to what fans are saying? wink.gif

Could you repeat that without the jargon so that this fan may understand.
mortonjag 2009-02-10 09:22:52
QUOTE(Thrax @ Feb 10 2009, 09:16 AM) [snapback]576665[/snapback]
you really dont like her do you? ph34r.gif

She's never had the pleasure of my company Thrax!

As you very well know I despise all politicians and politics, but with an unqualified and inexperienced kid in charge of the NHS in Scotland, I suppose it was inevitable that she'd be even worse than the usual keech. mad.gif

A wee bit of honesty would go a long way towards improving my opinion of her-is that too much to expect of a politician? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-10 09:29:23
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 10 2009, 09:23 AM) [snapback]576669[/snapback]
I know you don't like her, but can you tell us what specific cuts you would like made in the (fixed) budget to allow more to be spent on the NHS in Scotland? There is a fixed amount of pocket money and it has to be distributed between a lot of things. More on the NHS (which I do not say is a bad thing) means less elsewhere. Maybe scrap the Edinburgh trams? Which the current government wanted to do, you will recall.

The problems caused by having to live on a fixed income allocated by an administration in a foreign country could be resolved by voting for independence. We then can solve our own problems, live within our own means, make our own mistakes, and correct them ourselves. And although some might disagree, we would have more funds available to fund the NHS in the manner to which you would like to be accustomed as our nation is resource-rich, and will be even more so in future when water becomes a more valued resource.

I think in slagging Nicola Sturgeon, which you do with monotonous regularity, you are actually shooting at the wrong target. And yes, I have read the article.

Sturgeon's being paid a massive salary to attempt the impossible-I fully understand that.

So why does the little bitch not explain to the electorate that this is a REDUCTION in spending, which makes her pledge to deliver 'an NHS which will meet demand without further involvement of the private sector' even more of a pipe dream barefaced lie, instead of claiming that it's evidence to the contrary?


I'd like a straightforward answer if you don't mind! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-10 11:42:32
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 10 2009, 11:24 AM) [snapback]576681[/snapback]
I don't know anything about you at all Hamshank, but don't lose any sleep over it. I certainly won't, just as certainly as I don't care whether you believe my words or not.
I was self employed for twenty years so I think I know enough about the risks, responsibilities, benefits and pitfalls of running a small business. If there was anything left after paying overheads, salaries, profit shares and taxes, the charlatan financial advisors, bean counters and snake oil salesmen all told me to put it in a pension plan. Luckily, I didn't heed their advice completely because as you and Alibi say, the pension plans I do have are now practically worthless. Despite all of that, my lip remains unpetted.
I'm not a follower of any press led witch hunt against banks but I've always been in favour of their (the banks) socialisation. It's a pity now that the debts are being socialised rather than the profits, but there you go, that's the world we live in, perhaps we should all take the Panglossian view. The usual assortment of merchant bankers will no doubt continue to laugh out loud at suggestions that there might be a viable alternative to capitalist consumerism. What the feck, enjoy any bonus while you can, and pay no heed to any long term consequence. Who needs a fairer society anyway apart from the wishy washy liberals and the crypto-socialist do gooders in the PC Brigade ? Feck that bunch of greetin faced gimpies. tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2009-02-10 12:25:05
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 10 2009, 12:06 PM) [snapback]576693[/snapback]
In what way can a 2.6% increase be possibly perceived as a reduction in spending?

Are you sitting comfortably SPARROT

There-that's a good boy, and I'll begin.

Remember three years ago Mummy and Daddy increased your pocket money by 10% because your sweeties and crisps had gone up, and all your classmates were getting more too-and then two years ago we had to increase it by another ten percent, and then last year when we only increased it by 5% you were really upset and told us you couldn't buy the same stuff as your pals, and you argued that we had reduced what you could buy.

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mortonjag 2009-02-10 12:30:10 What I want to know is this. Does she support the mighty Ton? She went to the Port High and claims to be an active member of the Tartan Army.

If she's a Ton supporter I'll personally nominate her as an immediate replacement for the unshaven harpy.
mortonjag 2009-02-10 12:35:08
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 10 2009, 12:28 PM) [snapback]576704[/snapback]
Honor Diligentiae Praemium- w**k baws tongue.gif

Testes agitenti?
mortonjag 2009-02-10 12:51:26
QUOTE(dazed @ Feb 10 2009, 12:44 PM) [snapback]576710[/snapback]
No valentine for her then? laugh.gif

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I'm a kind man at heart-I've already written the wee ryhme:

Wee Nickerless your smile is sunny
Your wit is sharp, your jokes are funny
And like a bouncy Easter Bunny
I'd really love to shag you Honey
As long as you come up with MUNNY ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif

mortonjag 2009-02-10 12:53:50
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 10 2009, 12:49 PM) [snapback]576714[/snapback]
So it's not a reduction in spending at all. You remain factually incorrect. Public sector politics in this country is already dominated by the simpleton argument of 'throw money at things until problems go away': I'm sure you've experienced more than a few examples of the government throwing good money after bad on ill-adivised projects...

Labour's stance is not suprising, as they have no originality of thought when it comes to health policy. They sound like David Murray in the days of 'you spend a fiver, we'll spend a tenner'. No thought of who exactly will pay for that of course - in either case.

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mortonjag 2009-02-10 13:41:06
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 10 2009, 01:27 PM) [snapback]576738[/snapback]
OK, I'll elaborate. All over the world people have been prepared to die for their freedom, yet there are some amongst us in Scotland who are quite happy, indeed eager, to be ruled from another country. Many of these people routinely run down their own nation, telling us how shoite we are at everything. What are they scared of exactly? Time we got off our knees and stood up for ourselves. So yes, there is something fundamentally wrong with thinking you're somehow inadequate and unable to look after yourself. No-one is suggesting sending unionists to concentration camps, FFS more likely to be the other way round with the death squads (Willie McCrae's name comes up yet again). You disingenuously and probably malevolently introduce the language of the Nazis - final solutions and goose stepping - which is not remotely appropriate or relevant when discussing the independence of our nation. It's Scottish NATIONAL Party btw, not Nationalist. Or are you really Jack McConnell, who was always making the same deliberate "mistake" as you?

Poppyock-those who are inadequate and unable to look after themselves and think otherwise often come to a sticky end!

I'm speaking generally of course.
mortonjag 2009-02-10 13:44:40
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 10 2009, 01:24 PM) [snapback]576737[/snapback]
as i said use the report function because we cant read everything and we do miss things rolleyes.gif .
never seen stuff of on Hazel Irvine, Ally McCoist, Homosexuals, Disabled or Pakistanis so how can i be using blatant double standards if i didnt see the posts rolleyes.gif

Ally McCoist is a POUFFE
mortonjag 2009-02-10 13:47:53
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 10 2009, 01:04 PM) [snapback]576727[/snapback]
That is so laughable considering that this SNP Government in it's infancy made a mess of their sum's and had to be pushed by Annabel and co for them to go thru with it's promise of adding 1000 NEW Cop's.
By being pushed on it's own manifesto they had to save face and go with it. So funding the extra 1000 cops led to savings having to be made on the NHS, Prisons and Roads.

This is a knock on effect from Mr Swinney not using a calculator. The money should be there..
I agree, I had a couple of drinks in her company at the Scottish Health Awards in Embra a few months back and she was getting better looking with every glass of whisky!

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mortonjag 2009-02-10 13:53:55
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Feb 10 2009, 01:46 PM) [snapback]576749[/snapback]
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Barba Nicolae est niger.
mortonjag 2009-02-10 14:08:08
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Feb 10 2009, 01:57 PM) [snapback]576754[/snapback]
Have to disagree with that. I went through school with her. But I'll bow to MJ's experience.

Fascinating-when did she have her first shave?
mortonjag 2009-02-10 14:14:34
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 10 2009, 02:03 PM) [snapback]576758[/snapback]
wot, Annabel Goldie needs replaced?? ohmy.gif

Don't be ridiculous, Auntie Annabel uses


this

while the Harpy from Hades is a dab hand with one of those:


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mortonjag 2009-02-10 14:35:41 I typed in Douglas Rae and back came 'Wazzock'!

I thought that seemed a bit disrespectful till I remembered that his first name is actually Duncan.

I don't want to upset anybody-try it for yourself!
mortonjag 2009-02-10 14:47:47
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Feb 10 2009, 02:34 PM) [snapback]576772[/snapback]
Jesus Al! I was at my lunch! rip.gif

What I find worrying is what you must have been searching for in order to find that...
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something a wee bit different!
mortonjag 2009-02-10 14:56:00
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 10 2009, 02:42 PM) [snapback]576777[/snapback]
I VOTED in the last UK elections so you don’t have to sacrifice yourself to protect my rights wink.gif .

I enjoy my standard of living and the benefits my family and I derive from being part of the UK…Incidentally, I don’t need my ar$e wiped just yet, thank you very much cool.gif . Being a Nationalist is important to you and appears to be a galvanising force for many on this board, in fact political differences seem to have been put to the side in the pursuit of this unsure.gif . My main concerns are

Family health and happiness
Providing bread on the table
Friendship
Job satisfaction
Football etc, etc.

Nationalism is a distraction for me (I am an 80 or 90 minute patriot). In my opinion Independence will not make for a better society. If it were to happen than maybe you will be able to rattle your shortbread tin once a year to celebrate tongue.gif . Good luck to you but in my opinion there is more to life…


I do hope the Mods take note of this blatantly anti Scottish comment. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-10 15:01:01
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 10 2009, 02:55 PM) [snapback]576780[/snapback]
Its a different story when you have to part with your money just to watch them though.

It's not obligatory!
mortonjag 2009-02-10 15:30:07
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Feb 10 2009, 03:03 PM) [snapback]576785[/snapback]
what a pity the yanks didnt have the same frame of mind while their cty waged an illegal war on iraq !!! and tell me tricky.. how does this relate to all the 'brothers' who fought in this illegal war.... guilty ?????

Was it a holey war?
mortonjag 2009-02-10 16:17:30 We've finally taken the plunge and contacted those people:

Scottish Greyhound Sanctuary

We've had Jinty for only five days and she's absolutely no bother-a tremendous pet-already house trained and doesn't need a huge amount of exercise or food.

A minimum donation of £85 is requested.

Anybody seriously considering a dog as a pet should have a wee think about a greyhound.


mortonjag 2009-02-10 18:51:06
QUOTE(stuart @ Feb 10 2009, 05:10 PM) [snapback]576826[/snapback]
Hello Doctor

I maybe think that Rae would have been happy to shell out the 100 grand on one player because he felt there was a good chance of getting the money back - and more - in a couple of season's time by selling him on. Buying 3 players for 30 grand may not have been acceptable to him since there would not be the same guarantee of getting the money back in a couple of seasons.

Does that point of view make sense?

The principle makes very good sense, but it may have escaped your notice that Mr Rae has been signing players for over seven years with less financial success than a one armed boxer!!

The idea is that you pick up promising young talent for next to nothing and make a killing-not that you bust a gut to let the Club 'with the best support in Scotland' piss all over your ridiculous attempts to pay over the odds for one of their 'seconds'!

mortonjag 2009-02-10 19:12:47
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Feb 10 2009, 04:24 PM) [snapback]576809[/snapback]
Was at my cousins the other day there and he had a sort of greyhound breed. Dont know if this is the correct spelling but he said it was [b]Luxxor[/b]. Used to be a gamekeeper's dog, he is considering racing it as a fox ran out in the woods where he takes it a walk and he said Cassie was extremely fast. Think the poor thing was abused as when she came back she had her head down as if about to be hit. Great dogs so they are, if I was allowed one I would have one.

Was it a lurcher- a cross between a greyhound and an other breed?
mortonjag 2009-02-10 19:18:10
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 10 2009, 06:36 PM) [snapback]576856[/snapback]
F*CK OFF MORTONJAG YOU TEDIOUS C*NT!!!1

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mortonjag 2009-02-10 19:21:44
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Feb 10 2009, 07:13 PM) [snapback]576868[/snapback]
Yep, wasnt sure on the spelling. Dont know what the breed of its parent were but one of them was a greyhound. Nice wee dug tongue.gif

The Scottish Greyhound Sanctuary rescue lurchers too.
mortonjag 2009-02-10 19:26:09
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Feb 10 2009, 07:21 PM) [snapback]576874[/snapback]
Im sure Irons is in the know. He plucked Shimmin from obscurity so I would give him a bit of financial backing to scour the leagues for similar to assets as the likes of Shimmin. Then again might have been a one off but its worth a try.

In Shimmin we appear to have picked up a gem, and I agree-all credit to DI for spotting that one. Shoogly tends to sign players who have already got a bit of success under their belts-he pays over the odds for them and then allows them to go to waste because he won't pay for decent management.
mortonjag 2009-02-10 19:29:57 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Good old Toby-he's called the whole Greenock Morton Supporters' Club odious little f*ckwits on about five or six different threads, and STILL the Mods haven't batted an eyelid! [attachment=5216:dance.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-10 19:40:13 laugh.gif laugh.gif

I remember getting pelters for stating that McCall was an experienced manager and well ahead of Irons! [attachment=5217:bounce.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-10 19:52:29
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Feb 10 2009, 07:44 PM) [snapback]576885[/snapback]
Are you getting rid of Jinty already, or am I mis-interpreting your post ??

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Wouldn't dream of it Willy Man-she's a real goer! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-10 19:54:16
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 10 2009, 07:50 PM) [snapback]576890[/snapback]
Boozehound telling us about the time he erupted, one end to the other, is the only time I've ever came to tears at computer. Shame I can't be arsed finding it.

I think it was on the prune thread!
mortonjag 2009-02-10 19:59:43
QUOTE(larmton @ Feb 10 2009, 07:47 PM) [snapback]576886[/snapback]
Whats masturbation? blink.gif

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mortonjag 2009-02-10 20:04:31
QUOTE(Loveless @ Feb 10 2009, 08:01 PM) [snapback]576895[/snapback]
So you're a Rangers fan then?

He's certainly not timorous.
mortonjag 2009-02-10 21:37:17
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Feb 10 2009, 09:30 PM) [snapback]576922[/snapback]
He's still a weasel of a human being and I would not have him in charge of us again.

(I'm referring to McCall, before a predictable reply comes in).

I seem to recall somebody else referring to DI as a 'snake'!

TBH I couldn't care if our manager was a Skunk as long as he brought us success!
mortonjag 2009-02-10 21:39:49
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 10 2009, 08:43 PM) [snapback]576902[/snapback]
Good grief Doc ! You really have gone down in my estimations. I mean getting your information from the Daily Record blink.gif
That's just as much a Labour rag as the Tele Deary, deary me..... mad.gif

At least I don't think the Sun shines oot Bawheid's erse! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-10 21:43:00
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 10 2009, 09:29 PM) [snapback]576921[/snapback]
My thighs are in absolute agony after 20 minutes of it yesterday. I think it works.

(signed big Gillian)!
mortonjag 2009-02-11 07:08:28
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 11 2009, 12:32 AM) [snapback]576999[/snapback]
It's been dying a death as far as I can see. Probably because there isn't really much going on with Morton at the moment.

Aye-the buzz has long since gone!

Here's what our resident meteorologist said three days ago:

The current weather conditions are terrible and with the forecast being very cold this week. I guess it all depends if clyde want the game on (ie Injuries and Suspenses.), There's ways and means of calling a game off ie not putting covers on knowing game will be off and saying bbc got it wrong. They do have good covers.

They do have quite a few players missing this Saturday and with being a 6 pointer, We will find out on friday. I'm gonna say they will call for a friday Inspection.

Edit. I have been wrong (Once)
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The weather forecast for Cumbernauld predicts no sub zero temperatures on Friday or Saturday, so fingers crossed.

If the game's on they will give us a real battle guaranteed. We can win it if we attack from the outset and don't let them settle. If Irons yet again tries to hold out for a draw, we'll undoubtedly blow it! ph34r.gif

Prediction Clyde 0 Ton 2 (LEAFY 2), and by Sunday morning 75% of posters will have complete confidence in LEAFY'S abilities as a striker with 20% predicting a Scotland squad place very soon.

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mortonjag 2009-02-11 07:16:42
QUOTE(ton1901 @ Feb 10 2009, 11:10 PM) [snapback]576972[/snapback]
well...

1, i was put off

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If at first you don't succeed, stick a bucket on her heid.
mortonjag 2009-02-11 07:18:29
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 10 2009, 08:59 PM) [snapback]576907[/snapback]
Well looking into the future of Scotland still within the UK, I can see both Labour and the Tories eventually pandering to the English in regards to devolution. The English percieve the Scots getting everything that's going with them paying for it.
They won't keep the Barnett Formula as it is at present that's for sure. The annomally of devolution has Scotland getting things like prescription charges abolished, Council Tax frozen, Free Personal Care etc.

Scotland is going to get walloped big time by the unionists. Especially if the SNP ever lose power at Holyrood.

So you keep the blinkers on in your happy wee world. But when it happens and you start moaning, don't say you were not warned !

That sounds like a very English attitude! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-11 07:22:00
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Feb 10 2009, 10:27 PM) [snapback]576944[/snapback]
SNP have made a dogs c*** of everything TBH, health and justice system are 2 areas where they have screwed up. I used to be all for them getting in but they really are the East Stirling of politics I hoped they would not be. The sooner someone else gets in the better. Egomaniacal government in my opinion, god forbid we get independence we will be bankrupt within 6 months with those clowns in charge.

Bawheid's getting cocky though-thinks he's in with the bricks and has appointed three seasoned campaigners!

I predict Julius Caesar mark 11.

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mortonjag 2009-02-11 07:29:22
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Feb 11 2009, 12:12 AM) [snapback]576997[/snapback]
hitler had some great ideas but carried them out on the wrong people, he should have went for banking executives and if they screwed up the final solution would have been great fir them..........would love to know how many needlessly lose thier lives due to this nonsense either by suicide or any other means. fik them all i say

It's not fair to tar everybody with the same brush. I'd imagine that once upon a time in a far away land where the sun always shines a little orphan boy grew up to become a benevolent banking executive, and died a people's hero.
mortonjag 2009-02-11 08:19:31
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 11 2009, 08:07 AM) [snapback]577018[/snapback]
Seriously? That's a bit naive Mr Edwards. The bonus structure is an important part of any selling organisation and whilst I don't agree that employers should pay poor salaries topped up with (relatively) large bonus payments I knock my pan in to earn any bonusus I get and I thoroughly deserve what I get.

Indeed, and those educated among us (not ex-Greenock High... laugh.gif), will recall that 'Bonus' is Latin for 'Good one'-somebody whose performance has excelled and who deserves a just reward.

The problem in high flying financial circles is that 'Bonus' has very often meant something entirely different.
mortonjag 2009-02-11 09:16:25
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 11 2009, 07:29 AM) [snapback]577011[/snapback]
Can I just add it is very quote how you have learned to use the attachment function for lots of little smilies.

Now...if you can learn to hotlink from other sites you will save a lot of time downloading images only to upload them again!

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mortonjag 2009-02-11 09:26:54
QUOTE(dazed @ Feb 11 2009, 08:18 AM) [snapback]577020[/snapback]
I think you will find he is too smart an Alex to let that happen,keep your friends close but your enemies closer? cool.gif

The SNP government hasnt got evrything right Im the first to admit , but they ahve achieved more than the rest did in the previous eight years!

I despised McConnell's lot but that statement's a bit OTT!

I'm not so sure that Bawheid's quite as smart as he believes-only time will tell whether his voluntary reconciliations will improve matters or simply bite him in his ample arse.


ET TU BRUTE?

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mortonjag 2009-02-11 09:30:17
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 11 2009, 08:49 AM) [snapback]577023[/snapback]
Agreed - too many MPS have no real qualifications in anything, whether formal or by experience. Jumped up councillors, trade union officials and so on.

The banks are guilty of fraud - rights issue when they knew they were bust, that's fraud. The fact that the UK government has been happy to help them out just shows how rotten the system is.

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But not Bawheid-the financial analyst who left RBOS with his tail between his legs and a huge sigh of relief from all concerned! laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-11 09:51:30
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 11 2009, 09:40 AM) [snapback]577029[/snapback]
Yes I am serious. Lots of others 'knock their pans in' without any bonus.

Do you completely reject the concept of diligent employees being able to earn more than parasitic peers?
mortonjag 2009-02-11 10:17:01
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 11 2009, 10:07 AM) [snapback]577035[/snapback]
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I believe Utopia is possible in this life, whilst you believe Utopia awaits us when we're deid (if we're good). Maybe both of us haven't any sense. biggrin.gif



Shouldn't that read:

'I support Greenock Morton, believe Utopia is possible in this life, and take psychotropic medicine'?
mortonjag 2009-02-11 10:23:27
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 11 2009, 09:53 AM) [snapback]577032[/snapback]
No. Parasites should be penalised.

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I'll rephrase then:

If a tradesman did a superb job for you and charged what was by any standards a moderate fee, would you consider offering him a wee whisky/cup of tea, or consider giving him a 'thank you' tip? blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-11 10:28:23
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 11 2009, 10:12 AM) [snapback]577037[/snapback]
A fair question blink.gif The old adage "if it's not broken don't fix it" may not quite apply but in my opinion the cost and complexity of "detangling" from the UK (which I do not consider as a foreign country) will add to the borrowing and ultimately lead to higher taxes. I am not necessarily against higher taxes if it leads to improved education, health service, etc.
The idea that Scotland becoming a small, independent state will lead to Utopia is flawed. I don't believe there is much evidence to support this. Maybe you are able to extrapolate to a conclusion that fits with your aspirations?
Two days a week I work in an office where there are a number of people from Scotland, England, Eire, Germany, France, Sweden, Belarus and Denmark. What is most important is their ability to do the job not their nationality. Nationalism is not important to me.
Gordon Brown and Alistair Darling are British. I honestly don't believe that Scots are discriminated against and getting a raw deal from Westminster. If anything I think the UK should be applauded for its ability to try and accommodate "johnny foreigners". Also, if you consider Northern Ireland, both the English and Welsh are quite detached from the situation. However, there is still a significant amount of public spending in the Province.
You know an English nationalist may write- "The Scots perceive the English get everything that's going, with them paying for it." rolleyes.gif

Anyway best of luck to the three of you laugh.gif -
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mortonjag 2009-02-11 10:39:10
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 11 2009, 10:26 AM) [snapback]577046[/snapback]
http://www.money.scotsman.com/scotsman/art...rependForce=SM_

"Unless they can rely on being wealthy or can be sure they will not fall back on means-testing in later life, those on basic-rate tax - which is nearly 90% of taxpayers - have a significant probability of finding pensions poor value,"

I am not ready to be carted off into the horizon just yet (I think) so there may be time for recovery but one of my pension funds lost 20% of its value last year... Not quite the safety net that you are meant to have for old age. In my opinion annual payments into Cash ISAs do look a good bet. Back of an envelope calculation would suggest that by paying in your tax free entitlement each year that you could earn ~£50,000 in interest over a 20 year period.

'fag packet'! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-11 10:42:33
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 11 2009, 10:36 AM) [snapback]577051[/snapback]
Made that up, did you?

Of course I didn't make it up-it's common knowledge in RBOS circles that Bawheid was a bloody disaster, and that they were glad to see the back of him.

Next question! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-11 10:45:17
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 11 2009, 10:40 AM) [snapback]577054[/snapback]
Thanks for your wisdom once again Dr Pangloss. This here Johnny Foreigner will write to Gordon and Alastair today and beg forgiveness for my ingratitude. In this United Kingdom 'tis a wonderul thing indeed to be a subject of the Queen. I really should know what's good for me, on my knees and all with begging bowl in outstretched hands and eyes fixed firmly to the floor. I'd tug my forelock if I had one. laugh.gif

You've always had a vaguely Semitic demeanour!
mortonjag 2009-02-11 10:47:57
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 11 2009, 10:45 AM) [snapback]577058[/snapback]
How many tips did you get in your job? ( you can discount all the 'gifts' from the medical reps, they weren't your customers). biggrin.gif

You have yet again failed to answer a question Mr Edwards. I'm beginning to confuse you with Spurtle!
mortonjag 2009-02-11 11:02:11
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 11 2009, 10:51 AM) [snapback]577062[/snapback]
Naw, that was me in Uriah Creep mode. I'm ever so humble. laugh.gif

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A certain MP named CLARKE introduced 'targets' into General Practice in 1993. He was a big fat Tory arsehole who drank too much and hadn't a clue about patient care. Doctors of a similar political leaning soon began to reap the rewards of cheating, lying, and falsifying figures.

Performance related pay becomes a joke when not performance related Mr Edwards. That does NOT mean that diligent people should not receive rewards for efforts beyond the call of duty.

Having said that, and following on your comment about parasites, I'd love to see a 'loss deduction' replace the 'win bonus' at Cappielow.
mortonjag 2009-02-11 11:05:47
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 11 2009, 10:56 AM) [snapback]577065[/snapback]
Depends on how many "clients" he circumcised! laugh.gif

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'Patients' if you please!

Prostitutes have 'clients' as I'm sure you are well aware.
mortonjag 2009-02-11 11:07:35
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 11 2009, 10:58 AM) [snapback]577066[/snapback]
Maybe I should. Can you give me a script?

Give or sell? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-11 11:15:08
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 11 2009, 11:12 AM) [snapback]577076[/snapback]
I'm sure the good Doctor wasn't making a skin.

Believe it or not I made a small fortune from a machine I invented for knitting pullovers.
mortonjag 2009-02-11 12:24:55
QUOTE(hayfever @ Feb 11 2009, 12:13 PM) [snapback]577097[/snapback]
Sheese, those bloody moderators...when will they learn to just let the members just say whatever the hell they like. dry.gif

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It's called freedom of thought and expression. The rules define quite clearly what's OTT, and the Mods are correct to punish offenders.

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mortonjag 2009-02-11 12:36:39
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 11 2009, 11:17 AM) [snapback]577078[/snapback]
If it cures me of my delusions then I'll pay for it. biggrin.gif

When I discover one that works I'll share it with you!
mortonjag 2009-02-11 12:40:22
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 11 2009, 11:38 AM) [snapback]577089[/snapback]
unlike the shortsighted circumcisionist - who got the sac! laugh.gif

You'd have to be blind when there's a vas deferens.
mortonjag 2009-02-11 14:42:41
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 11 2009, 01:30 PM) [snapback]577115[/snapback]
What is real life? the internet is serious businss Bryan! this is real life. I live, breathe and fornecate with this forum.

That sounds jaggy! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-11 14:44:41
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 11 2009, 01:26 PM) [snapback]577112[/snapback]
tube!! laugh.gif

Pipe down.
mortonjag 2009-02-11 14:46:23
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 11 2009, 02:01 PM) [snapback]577129[/snapback]
Yes it was, and he lived in the flat directly above the shop.

It's not owned by that family now though.

Did they get cold feet?
mortonjag 2009-02-11 14:48:55
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 11 2009, 02:03 PM) [snapback]577131[/snapback]
That she may be, but there are still times when i look at her and think, "mmm, yes, I would".

I'm considering seeking therapy for it tho.

Me too-usually when I'm chopping wood.
mortonjag 2009-02-11 14:56:38
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 11 2009, 01:41 PM) [snapback]577118[/snapback]
So you want to see hand of corporations elected? My mother-in-law is the Chairman of the family business, should there be an election to allow her to do her job?

'Mother-in-law' and 'Chairman' should never be used together in a sentence.

Consider:

Old sweetie wife
Daft old fud
Demented old dodder
etc.
mortonjag 2009-02-11 15:05:03 Pardon my ignorance, but could somebody settle an argument. The monkey insists it's the Gourock lot that are the renowned clypes, and I'm pretty sure it's not! He's been in the huff ever since the dog arrived and is considering using the bus-oh and do the ones that are not the clypes do pick ups in Shawlands?
mortonjag 2009-02-11 15:09:08
QUOTE(Thrax @ Feb 11 2009, 12:59 PM) [snapback]577108[/snapback]
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It's widely accepted within the Medical Profession that 95% of the population wanks and that the other 5% are liars.
mortonjag 2009-02-11 15:22:16
QUOTE(leyTON @ Feb 11 2009, 01:46 PM) [snapback]577121[/snapback]
as someone of a modest 18 years of age, i can relate to this story, not through my own experience, but there were people in my tyears now going out with 15 year olds, and when i was 12, girls i knew were involved with guys of 16, 17

Aye-the dual morality on this pubic massage board occasionally makes me smile.

When I was in my teens (in Kilmacolm), everybody went to secondary school by train, and in those days of the old steam engines the coaches had individual compartments which seated about ten folk. It was commonplace to 'bag a carriage' for all sorts of naughty teenage pranks including reading dirty books and magazines, smoking, wanking, and-yip--- shagging.

I clearly remember the day the local station was rife with gossip and laughter because a certain well known young lady's knickers had blown out of the window, and 'What was she going to tell her parents'? laugh.gif

As I said before-as long as cocks and fannies exist, folk will experiment-it's human nature-it happens, and anybody who thinks he can stop it is a deluded prude! ph34r.gif
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That's my quota of smilies used up.

Get it right up ye Bawheid ya blundering buffoon. Reality strikes and this will be the first of many.


'Sturgeon admits NHS cannot survive without external support'.

A month maybe?
mortonjag 2009-02-11 15:57:02
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 11 2009, 03:52 PM) [snapback]577175[/snapback]
You and "two shags" in your socialist tax haven blink.gif . Now that would be a Panglossian island biggrin.gif

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WTF's a 'socialist' when it's at home. It appears from reading our learned posts that 'he' resents all who are more successful while empathising with the plight of all who are less.

Is it a sine qua non of those people that their heids are well up their erses? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-11 16:00:58
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 11 2009, 03:38 PM) [snapback]577166[/snapback]
But enough about you Douglas.....we were talking about my mother-in-law. rolleyes.gif

You have a Mother-in-law Peter.

Life is full of surprises.

I'll wager she's called Margaret or Betty!
mortonjag 2009-02-11 16:11:03
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Feb 11 2009, 03:36 PM) [snapback]577164[/snapback]
Only issue here MJ is that none of the rest would be doing any better.

The strangest thing is the only one appearing to come out of this with any kudos is one Ms. A Goldie.

And for Scotand that is a scary thing, unless of course you have the hots for Annabel and not Nickerless.

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Hmm-I've been pondering this for some time. If New Labour so easily transmuted to a shower of Thatcher wannabes maybe Auntie Annabel IS the face of common sense at Holyrood.

Let's face it-she went to a proper school, AND a proper University, and unlike Bawheid's lot doesn't pretend to be what she's not.

I could almost be persuaded to believe she has some integrity-but there again she's a politician, and politicians don't do integrity.

She is undoubtedly FAR more attractive that that unspeakably ugly wretch who masquerades as a health minister.
mortonjag 2009-02-11 16:17:33
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 11 2009, 04:04 PM) [snapback]577183[/snapback]
Aye, but as the thread title says "Emails To The Club may be disrupted".......

All together now - "There's A Hole In The Bucket, The Bucket, The Bucket......." laugh.gif

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I believe normal service has been resumed. Those who wish to email the club and not get a reply will be reassured!


We welcome you to contact us via any of the methods below:

By Post:
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Tel: 01475 723571
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Email:
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Tel: 01475 888555
mortonjag 2009-02-11 20:38:02
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 11 2009, 08:13 PM) [snapback]577266[/snapback]
I put my foot in it the other night.

Was out with the missus, my best mate and his burd on Sunday night.

Confessed to having a w**k the other day only to be asked by the mates burd, "why? you've got a burd!"

I said "so, men knock one out from time to time, burd or not. I'm not sex starved or anything, I'm just male."

She says to her man, "you don't do you?"

His face gave the answer.

Cue WW3. laugh.gif

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Her self esteem must be ok!
mortonjag 2009-02-11 20:42:42 Oh well DI can stop worrying about that P45 for a wee bit longer! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-11 20:47:17
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Feb 11 2009, 05:59 PM) [snapback]577220[/snapback]
[b]He publicly had a go at our current chairman and board,[/b] despite the fact that none of them had anything to do with the treatment he received when his contract was terminated by us. All this on the eve of a cup tie we had at Tannadice, which is the only reason he mentioned it to the press. Never heard a word about it until we came out of the hat against his mob four seasons later. mad.gif

Also can't forgive him for the awful formation he sent out at Love Street against the huns. dry.gif

For that, I'd award him a bloody Victoria Cross!

How do YOU know what transpired between McCall going and that statement?

Rae's had to make out of court settlements with others remember, as indicated at the recent AGM. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-11 20:54:23
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Feb 11 2009, 05:57 PM) [snapback]577219[/snapback]
I would consider myself to be a fairly commited morton man, but I definitely have a bigger contempt for Rangers than Celtic. I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with having a preference for one or the other. We live in the west coast of scotland where it is impossible to get away from it, it's natural in my opinion to feel a larger affinity for whatever side your friends or family predominantly favour.
You'll notice I haven't mentioned religion in this post, but to pre-empt anyone who wishes to take it down that road: I was raised RC, went to an RC secondary school and as a consequence have a largely (but no where near exclusively) RC group of friends, I have also taught exclusively in RC secondary schools (but RC school politics is a different can of worms entirely - which went some way to me changing career).
If you take from all that the opinion that I must be in some way bigoted then you are wide of the mark as it has had more to do with circumstances than choice (circumstances in that it was really a result of choices not made by me).

I understand what you're saying. I was brought up as a Proddy so I guess I should favour Rangers-especially when my partner's a (kind of) Rangers fan.

I don't and I dislike them just as strongly as I do Celtic.

It sickens me to the back teeth when so called Ton fans start arguing here about their relative merits and demerits. They are like peas in a bloody pod.
mortonjag 2009-02-11 21:07:29 It's not uncommon for men to complain of a painful knob after the honeymoon!
mortonjag 2009-02-11 21:10:04
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 11 2009, 06:30 PM) [snapback]577226[/snapback]
Stands to reason if I have a wife, I will have a mother-in-law Sherlock.

Not if she's deid.
mortonjag 2009-02-11 21:21:46
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 11 2009, 07:31 PM) [snapback]577248[/snapback]
Spot on, Simple Ton. Due to the way the system is set up for Holyrood elections, the SNP can't get to implement their manifesto unless they get more than 50% of the votes cast. The opposition parties can just gang up on them to vote down anything they bring forward. Having said that, I was under the impression that the LibDems wanted LIT even if it was a slightly different scheme (and a better one imho as it was truly local - although the SNP version was I think designed as an interim set rate measure to get round the obstructions that would be paced in the way of collection of a truly local variable tax).

This is a result of the obstructionist attitudes of the unionist parties. It will be interesting to see if they try the same blocking when the referendum bill comes forwards. Seems that the SP is designed to work only when everyone agrees, i.e. only non-contentious stuff can get through. Clearly we need to get beyond that or we will have stagnation.

To try to say this is a broken promise when it is simply parliamentary arithmetic that is stopping it shows gross ignorance or extreme myopia. The SNP manifesto was predicated on getting an overall majority which the SNP don't have. How stupid do you have to be not to understand that?

Can Bawheid get ANYTHING right?

A self obsessed and patently incompetent buffoon, his only claim to fame is that he's capitalised on paranoid xenophobia to feather his own nest.

He's determined to stay put as heid bummer of the shit heap that is Holyrood no matter what that takes. I don't think he really gives a fuck about democracy, let alone self determination.

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mortonjag 2009-02-11 21:32:46
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 11 2009, 09:24 PM) [snapback]577322[/snapback]
Can mortonjag get anything right ? is perhaps the question we should be asking laugh.gif

Spurtle-you know very well that I am entirely unbiased in this matter.

The same cannot be said of yourself.

Bawheid is a buffoon. [attachment=5230:dance.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-11 21:44:09
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 11 2009, 09:36 PM) [snapback]577329[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-02-11 21:46:35
QUOTE(stuart @ Feb 11 2009, 09:30 PM) [snapback]577325[/snapback]
The game will be on, it is to turn a lot milder over the next few days.

That's what I'd heard too.
mortonjag 2009-02-11 21:54:13
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Feb 11 2009, 06:38 PM) [snapback]577231[/snapback]
Hello Doctor,

I've started a new job ( its crap but its a job), it requires me to be on my feet all day, usually just standing at the same workstation. I've found I am getting really sore feet by lunchtime.

I was wondering if there is anything I can do to relieve this. Is it something to do with my circulation ?

I've stopped drinking alcohol recently and I dont smoke so I cant blame those things, although my diet isn't the healthiest.

I was wondering if I should put a mat under my feet or something; or what the best painklillers are; but really I dont want to be taking painkillers regularly.

Why am I getting sore feet and the others don't ? Is it just something I will get used to ?

Do you think insoles are any good ?

OK WDE-I think I'd better try to put a wee bit of perspective on this. One of the body's wonderful physiological mechanisms is described as feedback. It works in many ways-for example if a gland like the thyroid slows down its hormone production, the feedback mechanism increases the production of thyroid stimulating hormone (and vice versa).

A much simpler form of feedback is the pain message-telling the brain that an area has been injured or overworked.

I reckon you ain't got much to worry about-once you get yourself into training your tootsies will be fine! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-11 21:59:09
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 11 2009, 07:29 PM) [snapback]577247[/snapback]
Only Jim clypes but he is barred from rows 2-25 on the bus

Baldy?
mortonjag 2009-02-11 22:34:28
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 11 2009, 10:23 PM) [snapback]577347[/snapback]
If she was deid she wouldn't be the chairman of the company.

I can think of a Company whose Chairman is 'deid', Peter!
mortonjag 2009-02-11 22:35:59
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Feb 11 2009, 10:24 PM) [snapback]577348[/snapback]
Aye, good input and right on topic rolleyes.gif

You disagree? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-11 22:40:59
QUOTE(Toby @ Feb 11 2009, 10:18 PM) [snapback]577345[/snapback]
rolleyes.gif Whilst you've posted it as a question, it might as well have been a statement that I was a Rangers fan. I'd be inclined to think as a die hard Morton fan, I take far more offence to that assumption who couldn't really care less either way unsure.gif .
I seriously doubt you are referring to what I've posted, but to clear up, I've certainly not preached anything about any of them. I've got mates who support both, just like I've got mates who support a whole host of other teams and judge them as individuals on their merits i.e. I would far rather listen to a Rangers fan who's prepared to go to Tannadice on a Tuesday night than Morton fans who can't be bothered getting up off their arse to go to Cappielow. In the same breath, I don't see any need to give them any special attention over any other club in the country. They are part of Scottish football in the same way we are. Don't particularly like either Rangers or Celtic, but no moreso than say St. Mirren, Falkirk, Dunfermline, East Fife, Airdrie, Hearts and Arthurlie. They don't pay attention to us, why pay attention to them?

Finally, my earlier reference to the word H**. I find this a despicible word, in much the same way women tend to dislike the word cvnt. It is used about people in much the same manner as P@ki, Ch1nky, g00k, w0g etc. and is completely overlooked as it is used against the indigenous race in this country.

I wasn't-I was referring to the kind of two sided keech we always get from closet 'Huns' and 'Tims' every time something like the 'Hokey Hokey' thread comes up.
mortonjag 2009-02-11 22:47:36
QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporters @ Feb 11 2009, 10:35 PM) [snapback]577358[/snapback]
receding/thinning not bald, that's Ghost (Alan) that's bald.

Ghost!

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mortonjag 2009-02-11 23:00:29
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 11 2009, 10:54 PM) [snapback]577375[/snapback]
I find that very hard to believe. Both the Tories and Labour vehemently opposed LIT. If they had abstained, they would have been a laughing stock (again).

Local income tax was one of the keystones of Bawheid's manifesto Spurtle and has been manifestly demonstrated to have been a massive con trick.

There is no end to his chicanery it seems-not until the next election. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-11 23:05:24
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Feb 11 2009, 05:45 PM) [snapback]577212[/snapback]
Get yerself down to word up on a Saturday night, plenty of dugs in there for free!

The Shed's just round the corner! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-11 23:10:54
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 11 2009, 11:08 PM) [snapback]577380[/snapback]
Many liked the idea of LIT, to say it was the vote winner of why everyone voted for the SNP is just ridiculous.
The SNP did try and form a coalition with the Lib-Dems, but they wouldn't be part of the SNP government because the SNP wanted to have a democratic referendum on independence ( great from a party that calls itself democrats)
So they had to form a minority government.

Stirling Council was a Labour controlled council at the time. They capped the wages and cut the staff blink.gif

The SNP overall funding package available to local government amounts to almost £12 billion ! An incredible amount of money given our resources from Westminster.
Who incidently are going to cut the Scottish budget by £500m next year ! Aye that's a Labour government for ye !!!

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Many liked the idea of LIT Spurtle-that's why Bawheid lied! ph34r.gif

PS-I gather Moira reads this to him in his beddy baws!


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mortonjag 2009-02-11 23:22:57
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 11 2009, 11:10 PM) [snapback]577381[/snapback]
You only see what you want to see MJ. Even after it's been shown to have proved you wrong. dry.gif

A man sees what he wants to see and disregards the rest when he's blindly affiliated to a political party Spurtle.

The onlooker sees the whole of the game. Bawheid's bubble may be about to burst!


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mortonjag 2009-02-11 23:27:19
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 11 2009, 11:25 PM) [snapback]577387[/snapback]
So can I
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JESUS CHRIST Mr Edwards! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-11 23:40:05
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 11 2009, 11:34 PM) [snapback]577389[/snapback]
No he doesn't. He hears what he wants to hear and...... so on. There's none so deaf as those that refuse to listen. Never mind, everyman, go with Mentaljag and he'll be your misguide. biggrin.gif

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mortonjag 2009-02-12 06:05:25
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Feb 12 2009, 01:34 AM) [snapback]577406[/snapback]
Can I also point out that a certain poster warned us, within the last 7 fays, that the game was in serious doubt.

Aye some c*** that plays in a Manchester band-WTF does he know about football pitches? dry.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif


Anyway, there is no sub-zero weather forecast for Broadwood before Sunday, so they CAN get this game on if they really want to.
mortonjag 2009-02-12 06:24:31 Greenock Sheriff Court was told the car driven by David Young — the minister at Old Gourock and Ashton Parish Church — ended up on its roof in Cumberland Road after crossing into the path of on-coming traffic and mounting the pavement.

Young, 26, stood shame-faced in the dock as Sheriff James Gilmour banned him from the roads for 15 months and fined him £350 when he appeared at the court on Thursday.

Rev Young is Scotland’s youngest Church of Scotland ordained minister, having taken over the Gourock parish in December 2007.

At the time, he told the Tele he planned to spread the word of God to the town’s young people — by meeting and greeting them in pubs
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Oh well he can continue with his evangelical crusade in true Jesus fashion on the back of a bloody ass.

What a walloper-the car crossed into the path of oncoming traffic and ended up on its roof-it's a miracle laugh.gif that somebody wasn't killed.

This guy's been an ordained Minister for over a year-OK he's a mere wean-but he well and truly knew the risks he was taking.

If he's an alky he needs to get that sorted pronto or his career's fucked.

If he's not an alky he's a bloody loony-come to think of it, he may well be both ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-12 06:33:51 OK-I lied!


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mortonjag 2009-02-12 07:14:42
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Feb 12 2009, 07:13 AM) [snapback]577415[/snapback]
Heart says 2-1 Morton.

Head says game off.

There are two and a half days left with no frost forecast. I reckon Clyde can get this game on IF they want it on.
mortonjag 2009-02-12 07:16:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 12 2009, 07:11 AM) [snapback]577414[/snapback]
One person from the council ? blink.gif

Are they going to be standing in any elections ? And I'll ask again, what is the actual name of these organisations ?

You're posting early Spurtle-could ye no' sleep? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-12 07:18:02
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 12 2009, 07:16 AM) [snapback]577417[/snapback]
Considering Dewar was First Minister in the 90's I'm not surprised laugh.gif

Who shall we compare next ? William Pitt the younger, Harold McMillan.... laugh.gif

I'd rather you didn't compare Bawheid with famous people.
mortonjag 2009-02-12 07:19:46
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 12 2009, 07:18 AM) [snapback]577421[/snapback]
Never been on a management course in my life. I just don't buy the 'blame the government/bankers/middle classes/employers' argument. You stand or fall by your own actions/decisions. Maybe it was just the way I was brung up. rolleyes.gif tongue.gif

WRONG Peter-one is only responsible for the foreseeable results of ones actions.
mortonjag 2009-02-12 07:20:40
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 12 2009, 07:17 AM) [snapback]577419[/snapback]
Dreamin of you Doc wub.gif

That's VERY worrying! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-12 07:31:34
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 12 2009, 07:21 AM) [snapback]577424[/snapback]
Surely he's only the MD, here's the chairman (unless you're catholic of course where they are the same I think, it gets so hard to remember at times).
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mortonjag 2009-02-12 07:38:22 Another attempt at a serious debate, though I was sorely tempted to start a 'What age were you when you first got your hole' thread.

IF you could turn the clock back to the time when you entered secondary school, and had the wisdom and knowledge you have learned the hard way, what big differences would you try to make?

I have long since accepted that I am perfect-well what's the point in admitting otherwise-but I invite your observations. smile.gif

One thing I will concede is that I would NOT go down the road of marrying and having weans! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-12 07:41:48
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Feb 12 2009, 07:38 AM) [snapback]577426[/snapback]

Hey Bawheid
mortonjag 2009-02-12 07:49:26 To Updampew from Eritrea.
mortonjag 2009-02-12 07:53:37
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Feb 12 2009, 07:47 AM) [snapback]577430[/snapback]


for you alone dear
mortonjag 2009-02-12 08:56:45
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 12 2009, 08:25 AM) [snapback]577438[/snapback]
I don't know about starting secondry school, but since ive left ive been of the opinion that you should be in school until you're 20. Espescially for boys who mature later. at the age of 16-18 you think you have to do f*** all in life and all you want to do is have a laugh and act as if school is pointless and evil, by the time you're 20 you're starting to realise that school isn't so tough and you get a lot more oppertunites if you stick in, and hopefully a new found maturity to go with it. I left school at 16 which at the time i didn't regret, but i wish i could have still been in school by the time i realised how important it was.

That's a very common perception and regret. Would you not consider getting qualifications now. In my day, folk who didn't sit their Highers often went to 'Night School' to get them, and many started on very successful careers later in their twenties, by which time they also had a fair wee bit of life experience to help them along the way.

I feel sorry for some of our 'brighter' posters who have fallen straight out of school into University-often that's done without any clear vision of what is, or might lie ahead, and of course it doesn't help on here when a few of those seriously think they know better than those who HAVE learned the hard way.

I won't volunteer any names, but I certainly rate your contributions as much more mature and insightful.

The cheque should be made payable to Monkey Inc. and sent to P.O. Box 666, Immingham. IM1 2UC
mortonjag 2009-02-12 08:58:53
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Feb 12 2009, 08:04 AM) [snapback]577436[/snapback]
this love will have to go unrequited, only a mother could love that face
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I've told you repeatedly not to confuse me with my less successful brother. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-12 09:05:45
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 12 2009, 08:53 AM) [snapback]577441[/snapback]
What is interesting to watch is how the overall SNP internal politics are starting to work (and may I suggest unravel just a bit).

Despite being accused by one member on here of "talking bollocks" when I said there were those in the party starting to question Salmond's leadership, and despite that coming from a close personal friend who operates at a very high level within the party - it was pooh-pooh'd by many on here - who then cite their own personal sources as somehow being accurate/more accurate.

Well, let me give you a brief update - and see if NOW you might see a few dots joining up.

Salmond and his own particular faithful have made three basic errors in the last week or so regarding who if "for them and who is agin them".

1. The small group of people who are less than enamoured by his leadership style and some recent decisions continue to have discussions on options - and the fact that there are some in the party not fully aligned to the leader is not a major secret - but whats uncertain is who will stand where, if a challenge ever came. But ..... unfortunately for Eck he doesn't really know the MAJOR players who are least satisfied - "softly, softly, catchee monkey"

2. The decision to remove the three people from power last week has not gone down well for a couple of reasons. Firstly, depsite what the leadership may think, two of these three were full square behind Salmond !

3. Sooooo ..... the net result of those actions have been to a) steel the resolve of the people who are trying to build up a quorum for change and cool.gif driven a lot of the don't knows and faithful towards the "change" camp based on the patent unfairness of what happened last week !

An own goal of massive proportions - and in the next few months I expect to see a few more chickens coming home to roost.

And that's BEFORE he starts to worry about broken manifesto pledges !

There may be trouble aheaaaad ......

TonInDublin


Don yer pumps bawheid!
mortonjag 2009-02-12 09:17:47
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 12 2009, 08:31 AM) [snapback]577439[/snapback]
My dear old Mother-In-law came from the Shetland Islands, and all of my wife's Aunts, Uncles, Cousins, Grandparents certainly consider themselves to be Scots. Yes, they're rightly proud of their Shatland heritage, but they're proud Scots too.

This fabricated myth of Orkney and Shetland anti-Scottishness is another desparate Unionist ploy to divert attention from the true path of self determination. smile.gif

Yip, you're talking pish.

My dearly departed Mother-in-law came from Ormsary, near Lochgilphead, as did all her sisters and one brother and -strange to relate-her Mother and Father.

They were all avid royalists-on Christmas day we couldn't get peace until the old bat had watched the Queen's Speech.

Furthermore they were all fuckin' fruitloops. They were, however, rightly proud of their British Nationality, although they couldn't deny where they had been born.

I may be getting a bit confused here-oh yes-which goes to prove beyond any shadow of doubt that they were part of another desperate Unionist plot to spoil Christmas Day.
mortonjag 2009-02-12 09:24:10
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 12 2009, 09:11 AM) [snapback]577446[/snapback]
I was never a great studier in school and never took it seriously. I have the worst memory in the world, if i read a paragraph ill have forgotten the start of it by the time im finished it. It wasn't so bad in school where i was considered by the teachers to be one of those students who had brains but didn't take it seriously and was underachieving, so much so that they assigned a mentor for me to come and visit me every few weeks, who was always a guy who worked at t-mobile, IBM etc to try and help me get my act together.

Im too impatient now, along with my lack of studying ability to do something about it now, id much rather make money right now. I would have loved it if school had been forced on me until i was 20 though, as i'd have definetely knuckled down the last couple of years.

It is extremely frustrating knowing that im a smart person but can't make anything of my life because most things i take in from books gets forgotten almost instantly.

If you genuinely have such a serious problem with memory, help is available. There are many techniques which have been developed to 'cure' poor learners.

If, on the other hand, you are very materialistic, I'd advise you not to bother with qualifications. You're bright and inventive. Start your own wee business and see it grow.
mortonjag 2009-02-12 09:37:32
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 12 2009, 09:28 AM) [snapback]577450[/snapback]
Never had you down as the cynical kind of chap. rolleyes.gif

I'm not a cynic-just a realist!
mortonjag 2009-02-12 09:41:23
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 12 2009, 09:35 AM) [snapback]577456[/snapback]
blink.gif He should've gone to SpecSavers....... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

unsure.gif

Do you seriously think that Nickerless possesses female genitalia? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-12 09:49:51
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 12 2009, 09:34 AM) [snapback]577454[/snapback]
Marihuana blink.gif cool.gif

You can make pots of dough at that if you don't hash it.
mortonjag 2009-02-12 09:52:05
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 12 2009, 09:47 AM) [snapback]577462[/snapback]
Dunno - but I think there's a fair chance that Annabel Goldie shaves with a blowlamp AND has a better set o' wedding tackle than most of us on here (NOT that I'd like to find out!) biggrin.gif

Wrong-she was in my wee brother's class at school-there's more to Auntie Annabel than meets the eye and it ain't a hairy tadger! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-12 09:52:56
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 12 2009, 09:50 AM) [snapback]577464[/snapback]
blink.gif By "less successful", do you mean because he got CAUGHT?? ohmy.gif

rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-12 10:01:44
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 12 2009, 09:58 AM) [snapback]577468[/snapback]
I am more than happy to take your word for that.

Not mine-my brother's!

Back on topic-Nickerless-do you find her attractive in a sexual way?
mortonjag 2009-02-12 10:05:39
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 12 2009, 10:04 AM) [snapback]577471[/snapback]
I reckon you were more refined about it and did it all using the subtleties of your voice - yes, "death by lethal inflection"....... laugh.gif

I'm fascinated by your use of the past tense. Are you well insured? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-12 10:08:06 2766 registered posters is a helluvalot. If you do a search for somebody you have to wade through piles of 'unknowns'. Is it possible to prune back the redundant stuff?
mortonjag 2009-02-12 10:10:35
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 12 2009, 10:05 AM) [snapback]577473[/snapback]
Wouldn't quite go that far - but sometimes when she's on the telly I find myself wondering (just a little) what she'd be like....... rolleyes.gif

That might be described as coprophilia.
mortonjag 2009-02-12 10:12:15
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 12 2009, 10:10 AM) [snapback]577475[/snapback]
.......you mean you're still practicing?? ohmy.gif Thought you'd be GOOD at it by now!!

I long since perfected my techniques.
mortonjag 2009-02-12 10:54:51
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 12 2009, 10:25 AM) [snapback]577481[/snapback]
It was 200 years ago today that Sgt. Pepper taught the band the play. Oh. no, sorry, it was 200 years ago today that Charles Darwin was brought kicking and screaming into the world.
Darwinian man though well behaved,
Is no more than a monkey shaved'.

Coincidently he shares an exact birthday with Abraham Lincoln.

So, who was the biggest influence on humanity?

As things stand, either Jesus or Mohamet!
mortonjag 2009-02-12 10:56:38
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 12 2009, 10:14 AM) [snapback]577478[/snapback]
.......and heavy petting could be known as copafeelia.......

Let's hope that when you finally shuffle off this mortal coil you aren't subjected to the attentions of a homosexual undertaker - we wouldn't want him to be caught feeling dead Ernest....... laugh.gif

I hope you don't believe that my real name is Ernest? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-12 10:58:47
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 12 2009, 10:36 AM) [snapback]577484[/snapback]
My memory really is that bad. If i was to have a conversation with someone and you asked me what was said then i wouldnt be able to remember. i can only remember things when something triggers it, say if me and the person were talking about Morton and you asked what we were saying about Morton. My friend are always quoting funny lines from movies etc aswell and despite seeing the movie a hundred times my mind goes completely blank. On occassion ill even go to myself " okay make sure you remember this " and by the time i've finished telling myself to remember it ive already forgot it. laugh.gif

I'd like to have qualifications but i realise with my memory its never going to happen, sim going to have to go down the start your way at the bottom and work your way up for a company route, which i suppose i don't mind.

What sort of company?
mortonjag 2009-02-12 11:07:59
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Feb 12 2009, 10:29 AM) [snapback]577483[/snapback]
What's wrong with the statement that they dropped it because they were outnumbered. I fail to see how that makes me an idiot, as you imply. It's simple logic - if they can't get agreement to get the bill throughg, why waste time on it.

It's also appears to be a big assumption on here that the only reason people voted SNP is due to their stance on LIT - if that's the case, wouldn't you have expected the LibDems to have had a much larger share of the vote given that they have a broadly similar policy wrt LIT? I suspect the main reason that many folk voted SNP may be hinted at in the name of the party - you seem to think of yourself as a bit cleverer than most of us, so see if you can work it out.

For what it's worth, I'm against the LIT anyway laugh.gif

Here's what's wrong-it has clearly demonstrated that Bawheid does not have a mandate in this country. Successful governments don't usually have to drop keynote manifesto promises 'because they have been outnumbered'.

Bawheid is a blundering buffoon-it was easy for him in opposition-he only had to keep shouting and pandering to xenophobia. He's already so insecure that he's shot himself in the foot with a reshuffle which could see him ousted from power.

As TiD said, the chickens are coming home to roost!

Och well-the poor c*nt can always try busking up Arthur's seat! mellow.gif

mortonjag 2009-02-12 11:09:21
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 12 2009, 11:01 AM) [snapback]577496[/snapback]
Not Mortonjag ?

or Douglas Rae? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-12 11:11:09
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 12 2009, 11:04 AM) [snapback]577498[/snapback]
Tell you something Douglas, it's bloody hard to find a photo of God. Could you have a word? You're closer to him than I.

Here I am Peter:

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mortonjag 2009-02-12 11:24:00
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 12 2009, 11:15 AM) [snapback]577503[/snapback]
Probably just a retail company. You're looking at the future managing director of Tesco, Argos or Woolwo.....oh god.

i cant get by on my good looks, charm, wit and lack of qualifications forever.

Retail management is a cut throat business with many 'successful' managers burning out, or being put out to pasture by the age of forty. I'd advise you to avoid that like the plague!

You need to develop your singular talents-you're witty, intelligent, and communicate well. You should start selling to the public for yourself. I can't give you more specific advice, but I reckon you'd make a go of it.

PS-don't try jellied eels in the Oak Mall!
mortonjag 2009-02-12 11:59:51
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 12 2009, 11:20 AM) [snapback]577506[/snapback]
No single party has a mandate to govern with absolute power or ever will have, once again, it's what you get with PR. What he does have, however, is the right to form a minority administration as they're the largest single party in the parliament.

I'm pretty sure Salmond is fully aware of the fact he's running a minority administration and every single piece of legistlation it passes must have support from another party or parties, and as such he won't get every single one that he wants. Failing to garner support though doesn't mean it's a 'U-Turn' as the Unionists are spinning, just a pragmatic acceptance that there's no point in wasting parliamentary time, money, and effort is pushing a bill that's doomed to failure from the onset.

If you really want absolute single party mandates, which is what you seem to be suggesting, you'll have to have a FPTP system and I don't think anyone is seriously proposing that, are they?

COP OUT! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-12 12:03:50
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 12 2009, 11:48 AM) [snapback]577516[/snapback]
I've just driven past Cumbernauld (what's it called??) and it's snowing. Hope this is on as it's one of the few I can get along to.

Pissin' with rain in Glasgow!
mortonjag 2009-02-12 12:05:26
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 12 2009, 11:31 AM) [snapback]577510[/snapback]
Maybe i could coax you out of retirement and we can go into Business together. You can give them medical advice and ill sell them life insurance. Make sure you give them scary advice, we'll make a killing.

Mr Donald has done very well out of life insurance!
mortonjag 2009-02-12 12:06:37
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 12 2009, 12:03 PM) [snapback]577525[/snapback]
naw, I thought your name was Spartacus - but then again it couldn't be, because I am Spartacus.......

Not THE Spartacus Maccaboy! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-12 12:08:05 Just waitin' for the inevitable-'Sun crackin' the pavements' from the Inverclyde lot! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-12 12:11:30
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 12 2009, 10:25 AM) [snapback]577481[/snapback]
It was 200 years ago today that Sgt. Pepper taught the band the play. Oh. no, sorry, it was 200 years ago today that Charles Darwin was brought kicking and screaming into the world.
Darwinian man though well behaved,
Is no more than a monkey shaved'.

Coincidently he shares an exact birthday with Abraham Lincoln.

So, who was the biggest influence on humanity?

How do you define 'humanity' Peter?

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 12 2009, 12:09 PM) [snapback]577533[/snapback]
Well he was inspired by this man.

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mortonjag 2009-02-12 12:13:44

Homecoming Scottish Cup [return]
The draw for the 6th Round of the Homecoming Scottish Cup was made at Hampden yesterday.

The 6th round ties are as follows:

MOTHERWELL or ST MIRREN
-v-
CELTIC

AIRDRIE UNITED or DUNFERMLINE ATHLETIC
-v-
ABERDEEN or EAST FIFE

INVERNESS CALEDONIAN THISTLE
-v-
FALKIRK

FORFAR ATHLETIC or RANGERS
-v-
HAMILTON ACADEMICAL

These ties are scheduled to be played on Saturday 7th March.

Posted on 10 February, 2009
mortonjag 2009-02-12 12:16:56
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 12 2009, 12:14 PM) [snapback]577536[/snapback]
In this instance 'the human family' Douglas. Although that feels a little vague.

Precisely!

I think you'll need to be much more specific before we can attempt your question seriously.

Let's face it Maggie must be in there with a demented squeal.
mortonjag 2009-02-12 12:38:39
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 12 2009, 12:15 PM) [snapback]577538[/snapback]
Spot on.

One of the disadvantages of a PR voting system is that in other than simple yes/no decisions, it is often impossible to find a solution that is acceptable to a majority. PR has the unfortunate disbenefit of making stagnation more likely as arguments go on and on without any agreement being reached. LIT is such a scenario - Labour are against it but they have no idea what they want to do to replace the CT, so they will just object to everything without coming up with any alternatives.

The CT is in fact even less fair than the Poll Tax - at least the PT spread the burden around a bit (although I agree entirely that there was a need to reduce the amount paid by low earners rather than having a fixed sum for everyone). The CT is targeted only at those who own a house (or rent one) - I pay £2500pa for CT yet others in my household pay zilch. My neighbours, whose house is marginally smaller but have more adults over the age of 16 living in their house, pay less. Clearly CT is a broad brush scheme that might be easy to collect but is in no way fair.

As for Scotsguy's suggestion of a 10% increase each year, that is as I have already said risible - that would see the amount more than double in 8 years. At worst, CT should increase by no more than the rate of inflation.

I can understand why the LIT has been postponed, but I disagree with giving up on it - it should have been left to the opposition to shoot themselves in the foot. Ignoring the usual CBI mouthpieces and their like, the bulk of the public thought it was a good idea - like them I feel let down and I will be raising my objections to this decision at my next branch meeting.

As for TiD's theory of AS's leadership being ubder threat, I don't see any sign of that myself, but maybe I just don't knoe the right people. He'd be a very hard act to follow and I can't see anyone better to lead us in the direction of independence.

MJ: Your postings have become shriller and routinely abusive. A bit of abuse is a good thing but any points you wish to make have now been lost in the insults.

Insults!

I have my intelligence insulted every bloody day by your utterly blinkered defensive sermons at the merest hint of criticism of your beloved Bawheid and his shower of pathetic nappy rashers.

Seems you like to chuck it out ad nauseam but won't have a wee whisper in the other direction-oh and why do you constantly attempt to rubbish adverse criticism. I find that insulting too. I told you yesterday that the RBOS was glad to see the back of Bawheid. Just like TiD, I have connections-mine in the RBOS.

You responded:

'Did you make that up'? unsure.gif


Your regular attacks on mortonjag clearly indicate that he is getting the message over and you don't like it.


Bawheid is an egomaniacal blundering buffoon-that's my opinion and NOT ONLY MINE!

What will your next tack be I wonder-that I'm 'insanely jealous' of him-just as you claimed about your other wee pal who shafted you-Broke Millstone! [attachment=5246:winkiss.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-12 12:41:44
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 12 2009, 12:23 PM) [snapback]577543[/snapback]
Yes, the very same - now that my premature ejaculation's fixed. Before then I was SPURTacus....... blush.gif

So it came to a happy end!
mortonjag 2009-02-12 12:43:26
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 12 2009, 12:40 PM) [snapback]577549[/snapback]
In my weaker moments I wish Morton were bottom of the league again to keep you away from this part of the board.

laugh.gif

Give it time-the daggers are out for sheep lips and his sleekit wee aide! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-12 12:46:13
QUOTE(leyTON @ Feb 12 2009, 12:44 PM) [snapback]577553[/snapback]
you are talking bollocks im afraid
there hasnt been a single anti salmond meeting
and by people who count, you must mean either people who work for the party i.e the chief executive etc, or ministers, all of whom are appointed by salmond
even msp candidates are vetted by HQ
on the income tax, scotsguy, you may aswell be accusing the opposition parties of not fulfilling their promises.
manifestos are published under the assumption that you have a full majority.
the reason this will not be dropped before parliament is that last week when swinney spoke to the greens about the budget, even when he knew we didnt need there votes, he asked would they supoort LIT in exchange for more money. tyhey said that they would never support LIT. margo mcdonald has said the same.
therefore, there was no support in parliament for this, so what was the alternative. during the budget negotians, LIT was mentioned to every party, and with the exception of the LIb Dems, not one party would back it under any guise.
i ask again, given that this bill cannot go through parliament what are the options

An election!
mortonjag 2009-02-12 12:51:38
QUOTE(Savo @ Feb 12 2009, 12:48 PM) [snapback]577555[/snapback]
I'd imagine they are obliged to continue publishing it under the 'plugging' terms of the sponsorship deal negotiated by the sponsors (Willie Haughey the refrigeration company boss & Alex Salmond et al). Otherwise, it would be a bit odd.

AH! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-12 12:52:39
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 12 2009, 12:48 PM) [snapback]577556[/snapback]
I think you're taking a loan of us.

WOOD EYE? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-12 14:42:53
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Feb 12 2009, 01:37 PM) [snapback]577579[/snapback]
During the growing credit crunch recession depression wasn't it just lovely to bump into Forza sporting an all over mahogony glow in the tesco veg section.
How the other half live.
Just mind you don't catch yer flip flops on some iced up slush.

DAMMIT! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-12 15:00:59
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 12 2009, 02:35 PM) [snapback]577590[/snapback]
MJ, you misunderstand me - when you have a valid point to make, (as even you sometimes do!) - it has recently got rather lost under the stream of invective. Oh, and you may have noticed, I personally am dead against dropping the LIT proposal and think the government is wrong to do so. I reckon it's not a good move tactically or politically, but we'll see in due course if it was or not.

Oh c'mon Alibi my dear-of course I understand you!

Seems the opposite doesn't apply though. I couldn't really give a fuck about politics-it's little more than amusement to me and I'm realistic enough to accept that I'm never going to change anything.


I believe that entitles me to as much bloody invective as I can conjure up for the pond life who infest Holyrood-not just for Bawheid the Brave and that cretinous child 'Health Minister' but for every overpaid piece of cheating, lying, and self obsessed shit that calls itself MSP.

I'm sure a man of your intelligence can't have failed to notice that my postings are wont to be tongue in cheek! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-12 15:12:59
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 12 2009, 01:52 PM) [snapback]577584[/snapback]
if i could go back to being 17 i'd get a trade of some sort. maybe joinery as i like working with my hands. i've had over 30 jobs and they were mostly total pish.

I heard you were back Mr Brown! wink.gif

I expect some folk won't believe this, but I dearly wish I'd become a tradesman instead of going to University. I enjoyed my career and was good at my job, but there were too many frustrations-not least that I chose to work within the NHS.

I'm extremely good with my hands, and excellent at DIY. I'd probably have ended up running my own wee (or not so wee) business.
mortonjag 2009-02-12 15:14:38
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 12 2009, 03:05 PM) [snapback]577601[/snapback]
I used to attend a "Premature Ejaculators Anonymous" group - but I got fed up getting there too early!! biggrin.gif

PEA is for incontinent folk my dear!
mortonjag 2009-02-12 15:16:22
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 12 2009, 03:08 PM) [snapback]577602[/snapback]
OOh listen to you...EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDNext it'll be the fishnets and old Edwards will be off for a J Arthur!
mortonjag 2009-02-12 16:21:49
QUOTE(Earnton @ Feb 12 2009, 03:43 PM) [snapback]577615[/snapback]
The smug Brezhnev lookalike and his cronies are now being found out. The first major test of their manifesto and they decide to drop it to save face - surely nobody believes it was the fault of the UK government or the other parties at Holyrood. It was just a populist headline grabber that they have realised would backfire.

The headline grabbing populist policies that they have put though to try and get appeal - Bridge Tolls, Prescription Charges , Hospital Parking - have actually resulted in lost jobs and less money for the NHS. Hopefully most people will now have seen through this.

Their Brigadoon economics based upon its ""all our oil" for independence is a joke. Comparing Scotland to Iceland or Norway is laughable. Lets have the referendum now then and finish it off once and for all.

I expect him to wrap himself in the Saltire even more in a desperate attempt to gain support - but Eck you've been rumbled.

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mortonjag 2009-02-12 16:24:04 It's been thawing nicely all afternoon in Glasgow.
mortonjag 2009-02-12 19:51:12
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Feb 12 2009, 06:26 PM) [snapback]577672[/snapback]
Makes sense Doc! smile.gif

It doesn't make sense when we're oot-but I now understand why we're apparently obliged to publish redundant information! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-12 19:54:50
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 12 2009, 05:07 PM) [snapback]577652[/snapback]
That'll be me sent home like Mr Wilders then!! ph34r.gif

AND poor wee mouton.
mortonjag 2009-02-12 19:58:14
QUOTE(Yoda @ Feb 12 2009, 07:29 PM) [snapback]577700[/snapback]
According to John Lennon the Beatles were bigger than Jesus.

John Lennon is dead-he will never rise again.
mortonjag 2009-02-12 20:03:26 It's vaguely amusing that Bawheid's supporter's on this massage board seem to be going to inordinate lengths to prove to themselves that everything's still 'hunky dory' when it's evident to all around that it's quite the opposite! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-12 20:14:49 This thread has been catalysed by all of today's Pinocchio stories, following Alex Salmond's recent volte face. Notice I've not even mentioned the word 'Prick'! laugh.gif

I'm pretty sure that most men are interested in the sizes of their Willies-most it appears imagine they are poorly endowed and make ridiculous boasts in an attempt to console themselves and convince their disinterested peers. In fact, I've never ever encountered anybody who complained that his tadger was too big-which brings me to the title of the thread.

What's the ideal size? You may use metric or imperial measurements, but please remember only length, breadth, and circumference may be discussed.

If somebody wants to start another thread entitled 'My polisman's helmet is square', I'll leave that to Piehole.
mortonjag 2009-02-12 20:25:46
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 12 2009, 08:23 PM) [snapback]577725[/snapback]
I think you need to take the dug for a walk biggrin.gif

I did not invite female participation sweetie! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-12 20:27:49
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 12 2009, 08:17 PM) [snapback]577723[/snapback]
I think it's more a case of SNP haters smell blood because the SNP government dropped LIT and they believe that has damaged Salmond.

When in reality, neither Labour or the Tories or the Lib-Dems have a snowballs chance in hell of winning a Scottish election right now.

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mortonjag 2009-02-12 20:30:57
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 12 2009, 08:29 PM) [snapback]577731[/snapback]

Cocks Spurtle-can you not get anything right? mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-12 20:45:44
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 12 2009, 08:36 PM) [snapback]577734[/snapback]
Size doesn't matter unless she's got a fanny like a panting dug! happy.gif

The words of experience-and if she has? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-12 20:46:36
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 12 2009, 08:26 PM) [snapback]577727[/snapback]
Can't believe this - the technology is mind-boggling !

This is a photo from the 2009 Inauguration, In which you can see IN FOCUS the face of each individual in the crowd !!!
You can scan and zoom to any section of the crowd. . . wait a few seconds. . . and the focus adjusts.

The picture was taken with a robotic camera at 1,474 megapixel. (295 times the standard 5 megapixel camera)

Makes you wonder who's watching us right now !!!!!!!!
http://gigapan.org/viewGigapan.php?auth=03...ndow_width=1003

Let me guess Spurtle! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-12 20:51:18
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 12 2009, 08:47 PM) [snapback]577738[/snapback]
Dunno! You're the doctor! Tighten her labia or sumthin? blush.gif laugh.gif

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I'm disappointed in you. I thought you were about to come up with the first suggestion. It's obvious most posters are too coy to discuss their Willies.

Forget I mentioned it! [attachment=5253:signthankspin.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-12 20:52:25
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 12 2009, 08:50 PM) [snapback]577741[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-02-12 20:55:21
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 12 2009, 08:53 PM) [snapback]577744[/snapback]
In answer to the question. Not too bothered although having a 10 incher must be quality.

I've told the missus that if she ever has kids I hope she'd consider a ceserean (sp) as I never want to experience "not touching the sides."

Incidentally, will anyone admit to "flinging a sausage up a close?" I imagine it must be soul-destroying. laugh.gif

Ah-but it takes two to tango:

Large sausage and small close might do nicely!
mortonjag 2009-02-12 21:03:49
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 12 2009, 09:00 PM) [snapback]577747[/snapback]
Na, then it's like forcing a slinky through a buttonhole! laugh.gif

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A 'slinky'? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-12 21:08:00
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 12 2009, 09:05 PM) [snapback]577753[/snapback]
You must remember slinkys? Use google image. happy.gif

I'll have a wee peep-meanwhile here's something to reassure our blushing posters:

Don't despair!
mortonjag 2009-02-12 21:11:17
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 12 2009, 09:05 PM) [snapback]577753[/snapback]
You must remember slinkys? Use google image. happy.gif

[attachment=5254:250px_20...l_spiral.jpg]

I didn't realise that was what you called them!
mortonjag 2009-02-13 06:45:19 If Clyde clear the pitch of snow there seems no reason why this game should not be on. Here's the forecast for Cumbernauld for the next 48 hours.


Friday

Sunrise 07:45 (GMT)
Sunset 17:13 (GMT)
Friday's predominant weather is forecast to be cloudy.

4°C

3°C

Friday's wind direction: Easterly Wind.5
poor 1026 79
Friday's UV index risk: 1.

Friday's atmospheric pollution: Low.
Saturday

Sunrise 07:43 (GMT)
Sunset 17:15 (GMT)
Saturday's predominant weather is forecast to be light rain.

6°C

4°C

Saturday's wind direction: South Westerly Wind.7
very poor 1025 97
Saturday's UV index risk: 1.

Saturday's atmospheric pollution: Low.
mortonjag 2009-02-13 06:55:55
QUOTE(larmton @ Feb 12 2009, 11:07 PM) [snapback]577800[/snapback]
Maybe a bit smaller.
This monster is just becoming a bit of a liability to haul about.



QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 13 2009, 02:13 AM) [snapback]577827[/snapback]
Glad it's not just me who's noticed Mr McArthur's misguided, superiority complex.

Not a week goes by without a snidey dig at Morton, Greenock or his fellow fan.

I asked for dimensions-no need to say what it is now-just what you want it to be! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-13 07:04:18
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Feb 12 2009, 11:13 PM) [snapback]577803[/snapback]
As I said earlier, your labour/tory/lib dem chums backed down on their "strongly principled objections" to the budget rather than force an election. You're obviously more confident in their victory than they are!

I have no chums at Holyrood-I choose my friends. I merely answered the question appropriately, with no indication whatsoever of what I thought would be the outcome.

Anyway, it seems that hard on the heels of one fuck up, there is no end to this government's arrogant intransigence!

Don't argue with Bawheid
mortonjag 2009-02-13 07:12:22 90 Minutes - 13th February
Thu, 12th Feb 2009 11:31pm

Revival FM's regular Friday night football show, broadcast in conjunction with the club, can be heard on Friday from 6.30pm.

The scheduled guests this week are; manager John Brown, director John Ruddy, Morton boss Davie Irons and journalist Gordon Parks.

The show's hosts will be looking out for your questions and views via the Official Website's live Chat Room.

You can listen to the show at 100.8FM or http://revival.fm. Website Members can join the live chat here or via the members menu.
mortonjag 2009-02-13 07:59:13
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 13 2009, 07:28 AM) [snapback]577838[/snapback]
Most councils agree to Swinney's tax freeze

http://news.scotsman.com/politics/Most--co...e-to.4977112.jp

MORE than half of Scotland's local authorities had agreed to freeze the council tax as of last night, with the others expected to follow

Looks like even the Labour/Lib-Dem/Tory controlled councils agree they are getting a good deal from the SNP government rolleyes.gif

Unlike their counterparts in England,were bills are set to rise by almost £50 for an average property next year.

Suppose that's the difference between a Labour government at Westminster and a SNP government at Holyrood. wink.gif

Hey Spurtle-you didn't mention this bit!


One of Mr Watters's deputies in Cosla, Neil Fletcher, a Liberal Democrat Aberdeen councillor, told The Scotsman: "The Scottish Government will penalise financially any council that raises council tax, hence making it impossible to do so.


...and you call that 'getting a good deal'!
mortonjag 2009-02-13 08:00:54
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 13 2009, 07:24 AM) [snapback]577837[/snapback]
Will you be asking any question to our manager?
....or will you be in London again? ph34r.gif laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2009-02-13 08:02:03 Well?
mortonjag 2009-02-13 08:49:02
QUOTE(jan65ton @ Feb 13 2009, 08:41 AM) [snapback]577846[/snapback]
I got citation for court today! unsure.gif

You've been invited down to see wee Betty? huh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-13 09:06:13
QUOTE(Torro @ Feb 13 2009, 08:57 AM) [snapback]577850[/snapback]
or maybe a new addition to the family... happy.gif

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mortonjag 2009-02-13 09:23:43
QUOTE(Alibi) [snapback]577853[/snapback]
I find 5 inches plenty. Why, what diameter is yours?....
Anyone else get the feeling MJ has, hmmm, as the modern idiom goes, "issues"?

Of course I've got 'issues'-everybody's got 'issues' and one of the most common in my Professional experience is insecurity (not on my own part!) about the size of the penis.

We've had thread after thread on this pubic massage board where gung ho youngsters and not so youngsters try to compensate for their sexual insecurity.

I thought it was a good idea to discuss the matter openly and posted the wee link as reassurance to many who are worrying needlessly.

My tadger is 10.37 inches long.

Would you like a bit?
mortonjag 2009-02-13 09:29:03 If Independence meant that in real terms you were 10% worse off financially, would you still support it?
mortonjag 2009-02-13 09:41:21
QUOTE(Thrax @ Feb 13 2009, 09:34 AM) [snapback]577859[/snapback]
No, becuase lets face it...money is what were all after and its pretty much the deciding factor in everything political.

If it was for a short time and then we end up better off then thats a different story, but if there was documented proff that independance wouldnt financially be better for the tax payer...i highly doubt it would happen

That seems entirely logical. It's just that so much of the 'Independence' propaganda seems to pander to national pride, without any proof that we'd be better off financially.

Being a separate entity and running our own affairs appeals to me-I strongly believe that the Scots have proved over the ages that they are nobody's fools, and that we surely could run our own country very efficiently and equitably. I'm just unconvinced that we would necessarily be better off financially.
mortonjag 2009-02-13 10:13:15
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 13 2009, 09:35 AM) [snapback]577860[/snapback]
In line with most men I wouldn't be averse to having a 12 inch langer, instead of this big fecker I ended up with.

Seriously though, size (unless you're a right pee wee) matters not a jot. It's how you use it, and more importantly how you use other things that will determine whether or not a fair lady finds you a hit or a miss in the sack. It's way more than seeing how well you can storm the gates of her pink love palace with your purple battering ram.

And indeed, sometimes when a lady's flower is akin to a wizards sleeve, have you ever thought that's cos it has no desire to take a grip on whatever it is thats plundering it at that moment. You need to get that right first - doesn't matter how big your organ is if it's trying to play in a cathedral.

Nope, it's an inclusive event - from start to finish - note to men - try and keep start and finish as far apart as possible. Treat her lovingly, plenty of lead up work, lots of passing before you attempt to score, and if you treat her with the love and respect she deserves at the end of your session she'll have a clout like a drayhorses lips - guaranteed.

TonInDublin

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What if she takes control, licks your midfield into shape and pressurises you into an own goal? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-13 10:15:35
QUOTE(dazed @ Feb 13 2009, 09:42 AM) [snapback]577864[/snapback]
I dont believe we would be 10%worse off if independent so I would vote for it whatever it takes!

I'm dazed and confused by that answer. Would you vote for it if you knew we'd be 10% worse off? smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-13 10:29:14
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 13 2009, 09:59 AM) [snapback]577869[/snapback]
Of course there are Johnny Boy, it would be remakable and utterly unique in any political pary if there wasn't! I'm sure nobody gets to the top of any organisation without making enemies along the way. Alex Neil and Rosanna Cunningham being just two of them.

I would say however that at the moment they are very small in number. He has after all taken them to government and the brink of an independence referendum. Most realise it would be suicide to risk that now.

Things can change of course, party leaders are like footy managers in that respect as it's also a results based business, but I really cannot see a serious and credible threat to his leadership in the forseeable furture. If the independence referendum were lost then maybe the whisperers would put their heads above the parapet, but if that happened I'd expect he'd stand down anyway.

I could be wrong of course, time will tell.

That's the most important part of your post, and things have changed significantly in the past few days. Alex Salmond has been good for the SNP, but it's possible that there are many high ranking party members (and MSPs) who now secretly worry that he may have 'peaked' and is becoming something of an embarrassment if not an actual hindrance to progress.
mortonjag 2009-02-13 10:45:48 Talking of DI, I spotted this on one of my rare visits to P & B!


Worst Manager In The League, In Terms Of Tactics/Resources



Most Clueless
Is......
Gordon Chisholm [ 47 ] ** [23.62%]
Kenny Black [ 8 ] ** [4.02%]
Derek McInnes [ 12 ] ** [6.03%]
Derek Adams [ 9 ] ** [4.52%]
Paul Hegarty [ 10 ] ** [5.03%]
Jim McIntyre [ 16 ] ** [8.04%]
Jocky Scott [ 13 ] ** [6.53%]
Ian McCall [ 11 ] ** [5.53%]
John Brown [ 25 ] ** [12.56%]
David Irons [ 48 ] ** [24.12%]
Total Votes: 249
mortonjag 2009-02-13 11:04:55
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 13 2009, 10:53 AM) [snapback]577890[/snapback]
So that will be a big "no, I am not for I only ever do my talking on an internet forum, but when the opportunity arises that I can present my views to those they are always about I will do nothing"
...c'mon MJ,
s*** OR GET OFF THE POT!
[SPOILER]I'm awaiting a "the jag doesn't use drugs so there is no need to get off the pot" or something else - like tryign to make another word from s*** - that will not be linked to anything I have said tongue.gif [/spoiler]

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You're almost obsessed with mortonjag making a public appearance young man.

I have absolutely no interest in 'presenting my views' at a Shoogly show, or any other stage managed 'make those daft fans think they're involved' event. Nor, for that matter, would I waste precious time tuning in to some scabby wee radio show in the hope of 50 seconds of 'fame'!

Mortonjag's views are well known to those who matter sonny boy-of that you can rest assured. [attachment=5257:sneaky.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-13 11:23:05
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 13 2009, 10:50 AM) [snapback]577886[/snapback]
Not nearly as much as you'd like to think Jaggy! wink.gif

As a minority government it was always going to happen sonner or later that a manifesto policy would either be voted down or have to be ditched. Of course the opposition parties are making the most of it, but it was inevitable and not nearly as significant as you and they are trying to make it out to be.

Did you seriously think a minority goverment would be able to get cross party support on all their manifesto pledges?

I earnestly beseech you not to associate me with political parties. I hate politics and politicians and have made no secret of that.

I thought Labour were abysmal, and welcomed the fresh face presented by the 'Nats'. I had high hopes of seeing things genuinely improve at the coal face-not only in the NHS, but in education, policing, and so on.

That has not happened.

I can only speak with authority for the NHS where Doctors and Nurses are more disillusioned than ever. I abhor the lies of a Health Minister who claimed she would deliver 'a health service which meets public demand without further involvement of the private sector'-her words- and has the temerity to brand the lowest annual increase in spending since devolution as 'evidence that they are committed to such'.

Those are the sort of deliberate lies and spin which will inevitably bite her in her bum, just as Salmond's arse has been pierced by his enforced volte face on LIT.

It's fairly commonly perceived that Salmond is the ultimate pragmatist who will do anything to maintain his own position-EVEN TO THE DETRIMENT OF THE SCOTTISH NATION.

I firmly believe he's had a dose of the skitters this week. His reshuffle is at best a gamble and I'd be willing to bet that it has not strengthened his position in reality.
mortonjag 2009-02-13 11:24:55
QUOTE(monyou @ Feb 13 2009, 11:21 AM) [snapback]577900[/snapback]
Just been hit by a bus..... ph34r.gif

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mortonjag 2009-02-13 12:06:12
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 13 2009, 11:31 AM) [snapback]577905[/snapback]
I didn't. In fact I explicitly differentiated 'you' (Jaggy) fron 'them' (the opoosition partied).

No need to apologise.

Good.
mortonjag 2009-02-13 12:10:31
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 13 2009, 11:45 AM) [snapback]577909[/snapback]
Personally i don't know why they get their own day. They just got one of their own as the leader of the free world, what more do they want?. Soon we'll be a minority, my people. They're taking over the world.

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I was surprised by this:

The longest period that can occur without a Friday the 13th is fourteen months, either from July to September the following year (e.g. in 2001/2002 and 2012/13), or from August to October in a leap year (e.g. in 2027/28).
mortonjag 2009-02-13 12:12:50
QUOTE(suda @ Feb 13 2009, 12:06 PM) [snapback]577911[/snapback]
well known and ignored laugh.gif

You seem to think that is funny! [attachment=5259:nono.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-13 12:58:50
QUOTE(Toby @ Feb 13 2009, 12:26 PM) [snapback]577919[/snapback]
That's a pile of pish Davie, and you well know it. One of the many good things about football is the little side interests that it creates. This leads to conversation and comparison that's often good fun (remember that?).

I'm proud of having been to every league ground in the country except the methadome, and enjoy going to new places as it broadens my horizons and knowledge of the game. I also feel that to truely enjoy the good times, experiencing the bad ones is essential.

Also, to use JonaTon as an example, anytime we visit each others houses, we're quick to look round at all the books, programmes etc. that we've gathered from years of going to games. No superiority complex, just enjoying our hobby.

Anyway, hope you have a good day tomorrow, there's a good sale on at Ikea dry.gif .

Well they obviously didn't sell a bloody snow plow to Clyde-b*****dS! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-13 13:01:09
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 13 2009, 12:50 PM) [snapback]577934[/snapback]
the wee guy doesn't even look pubescent. someone else has fathered that kid i reckon

Maybe somebody had it in for him.
mortonjag 2009-02-13 13:04:03
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 13 2009, 12:31 PM) [snapback]577923[/snapback]
A fool knows the price of everything and the value of nothing....

However to answer your question, or rather turn it against you, if being in the Union meant that you were 10% worse off, would you vote for it? That is at least as likely to be a realistic question if you consider that outwith the Union we will not need to pay for Trident and a lot of other stuff that is of no benefit to any of us in Scotland, and we can direct our economy to suit Scotland and not to suit SE England and the interests of Westminster. If however you believe the line that we Scots are a bunch of hopeless basket cases existing only on handouts, then yes, I can see why you would be scared of independence. Strangely though, I can't think of any nation that has ever in modern times voluntarily surrendered its independence. And I don't include EU membership in that definition.

I'm not aware of any impending referendum on joining the union! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-13 13:05:28 Jobby, jobby, jobby, jobby, jobby, jobby! dry.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-13 13:07:51
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 13 2009, 01:04 PM) [snapback]577943[/snapback]
Why did I expect the mother to be called something like Chantelle?

Do Chantelles normally shag 13 year old weans? I'd have more expected it to be his forty two year old schoolteacher-Miss Sukie Dick.
mortonjag 2009-02-13 13:11:56
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 13 2009, 01:10 PM) [snapback]577949[/snapback]
Bit like old moronjag himself then. smile.gif

You can't resist mortonjag you drunken ape! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-13 13:13:31
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Feb 13 2009, 01:11 PM) [snapback]577950[/snapback]
I really should resist the temptation to say "Typical MJ talking s***e again!" but what the hell.... laugh.gif rolleyes.gif wink.gif

Go on then-make a complete ass of yourself as usual!

Anyway:


JOBBY!
mortonjag 2009-02-13 13:16:55
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Feb 13 2009, 01:15 PM) [snapback]577954[/snapback]
Irony as well - excellent laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

That was inaccurate and not amusing.

Go and pull Shoogly's trailer! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-13 15:17:02
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 13 2009, 01:50 PM) [snapback]577971[/snapback]
Christ, some people on here need to lighten up a bit. You go if you want to go and you don't go if you don't want to go. It's not exactly a big deal.
As for Russell's Ikea comment, I wouldn't be seen dead in there.

What's it like?
mortonjag 2009-02-13 15:21:53
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 13 2009, 01:47 PM) [snapback]577970[/snapback]
Why is it whenever there is a debate about the union it's always about money? Democracy, self-determination and self-respect are all far more important in my book.

This thread was intended to give folks the opportunity to cite values other than money Peter! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 13 2009, 01:53 PM) [snapback]577972[/snapback]
Yes. smile.gif

At last a committed answer!

QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 13 2009, 02:20 PM) [snapback]577979[/snapback]
Again you cut straight to the crux of the matter.

....and again you have failed to answer the question! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-13 15:24:07
QUOTE(leyTON @ Feb 13 2009, 02:35 PM) [snapback]577982[/snapback]
you are quite substantially misinformed

JEEEEEEEZUZ-is that Holyrood speak for 'wrong'? [attachment=5260:nono.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-13 15:38:16
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 13 2009, 02:05 PM) [snapback]577976[/snapback]
Just heard the tape of the interview , obviously one of them contacted the press for the cash but really if they are that stupid in letting the press into their lives they deserve to be hounded for letting this situation occur .
The wifes niece had a sprog recently and she was 14 to a 14 year old boy although she wasn't too sure whose it was . Her mother , the wifes sister is a selfish coo who always put herself in front of her weans she has 4 by 3 different guys and so the spiral begins.

Is she busy tomorrow afternoon Chris-I've just been stood up for a date in Cumbernauld! mad.gif

QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 13 2009, 02:54 PM) [snapback]577983[/snapback]
off the top of my head: Chloe, Ashleigh, Nicole, Jade, Shannon, Natasha, Stacey, Danielle

although some of them have now been moved on from to things like Mercedes, Porsche, Ford Focus etc

Citroen Kelly, and Maserati McClumpha.
mortonjag 2009-02-13 15:44:05
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 13 2009, 03:35 PM) [snapback]578000[/snapback]
Councils have the choice to freeze council tax or not to freeze it. However the government has said it will make money available to them if they do freeze it. Note, not "penalize them" if they don't freeze it, but give them an incentive to do so. If they still want to raise CT, they can do so but they would need to raise it enough to cover the loss of additional grant from the government and they would also need to explain to their CT payers why they are doing so. Given that it is the stated intention of the Scottish Government to freeze the CT and that they are making available additional cash to allow that to be done, what exactly is the problem? The councils have a choice and if they choose to cut off their noses to spite their faces, that's their lookout. It's not small print - it's perfectly up front. An incentive maybe, but there's nothing covert about it as you seem to be trying to imply.

He wasn't! He was merely calling Spurtle's bluff, and you've answered for your regular partner in crime! laugh.gif

....and your 'answer' is ridiculously flawed. Now run along and eat a bar of soap like a good wee boy and provided you do Daddy won't smack your bottom! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-13 15:45:54
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Feb 13 2009, 03:43 PM) [snapback]578006[/snapback]
another advert for summer football?

Another reason to HATE Clyde! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-13 15:48:54 I've never heard of this guy-is he a Dutch footballer?

Sorry-I just spotted the link-so why is he not being allowed in?
mortonjag 2009-02-13 15:54:14
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 13 2009, 03:48 PM) [snapback]578013[/snapback]
OK, MJ.

Yes. It's not about the money. And as I have said, the question is in my view rhetorical as it postulates a set of parameters that are (arguably) somewhere between impossible and unlikely.

I accept however that for many (and enough to hold the balance of power) it probably comes down to money. My mother always said that the USA could have won in Vietnam if they'd just given the money spent on the war to the North Vietnamese people instead of bombing them - although possibly the Vietnamespeople are more principled than those amongst us who can apparently actually be bought and sold for English gold.

TY.

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 13 2009, 03:50 PM) [snapback]578017[/snapback]
Of course I would still support it. I'm not british and the union falg is not the flag of my country.

The union is a mere blip in our long history as an independent nation in it's own right.

We had been a nation for centuries before the union in 1707, and I'm more than confident we shall be an independent nation for centuries again after the union has been consigned to the history books.

Future generations of Scots will look back on the 300 years of the union and be totally bewildered at why many Scots wanted to be ruled by another land.

Listen Spurtle you're British. You're British in the same way as you're male, and no amount of squealing, nor even cutting off your tadger will alter those facts! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-13 15:55:20
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 13 2009, 03:54 PM) [snapback]578023[/snapback]
How was he calling my bluff ? blink.gif

rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-13 16:05:29
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 13 2009, 03:57 PM) [snapback]578027[/snapback]
Well ??? happy.gif

Do you really want me to insult your limited intelligence by spelling it out for you Bulldog? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-13 16:07:11
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 13 2009, 04:04 PM) [snapback]578034[/snapback]
And the results in! Was between me and someone else. He got it as he had manufacturing experience of some sort. Was for BPI out at Bogston.

Cheers again everyone for the input.

Hard luck-coming second in your first promotion interview's no disgrace and will look good on your C.V.
mortonjag 2009-02-13 16:08:16
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 13 2009, 04:06 PM) [snapback]578039[/snapback]
Go on, insult me, Bullfrog laugh.gif

OK.

You're a keech!
mortonjag 2009-02-13 16:09:42
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 13 2009, 04:01 PM) [snapback]578031[/snapback]
No, he lost it years ago..... rolleyes.gif

No, no Spurtle-the knife! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-13 16:11:15
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 13 2009, 03:57 PM) [snapback]578028[/snapback]
I think I'll be cool if I ever have kids as "FckmeIwasconvincedIwasinfertile" isn't that common.

FART for short!
mortonjag 2009-02-13 16:11:57
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 13 2009, 04:10 PM) [snapback]578044[/snapback]
unsure.gif

You deny it? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-13 16:14:01
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 13 2009, 04:11 PM) [snapback]578047[/snapback]
No, no Doc-the plot laugh.gif

Everybody knows THAT you fool, and I've got a big KNIFE! [attachment=5261:yeti_0021.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-13 16:17:28
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Feb 13 2009, 03:53 PM) [snapback]578021[/snapback]
Now I know why I thought twice before viewing your blocked post

Really dear-so you believe the postponement was inevitable! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-13 16:18:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 13 2009, 04:11 PM) [snapback]578046[/snapback]
Thought as much happy.gif

And will you evern learn to hotlink smilies or are you going to go through that whole attachment process every single time? tongue.gif

I invited you to teach me and you failed to respond!


BAWBAG!
mortonjag 2009-02-13 16:21:33
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 13 2009, 04:20 PM) [snapback]578060[/snapback]
Yeah, no worries or that. Just have to keep looking!
Person who got it has manufacturing experience, seems that was the only difference.

Ach well...onwards and upwards!

Now-to important matters-that hot tip you're about to give me! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-13 16:22:46
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 13 2009, 04:16 PM) [snapback]578056[/snapback]
He is anti-islam, that's not the same as racism.

Here's part of what Brown doesn't want you to hear.

Is he anti Islam or anti Islamic extremism?
mortonjag 2009-02-13 16:32:19
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 13 2009, 04:23 PM) [snapback]578063[/snapback]
Don't listen to them, you're a free spirit and a wonderful man. You fly with the angels while they swim with the fishes. I sound like i've just ordered a mafia hit on them but if thats what it comes to to protect you from this world then by jove, thats what will have to be done!

Peter on rare trip to Scapa! [attachment=5264:FirstOly...sMizpa_4.jpg]
mortonjag 2009-02-13 19:28:02
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 13 2009, 06:03 PM) [snapback]578092[/snapback]
Aye, let's blame them for the weather as well now! rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

If there had been a big enough incentive the pitch would be playable tomorrow-it's as simple as that. The stated reason-that the pitch is 'frozen'-is mince. It's been thawing for well over twenty four hours already, and had the snow covering been removed (or indeed, were it to be removed this evening) the pitch would be playable!

That's A FACT! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-13 19:30:44
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 13 2009, 06:08 PM) [snapback]578094[/snapback]
I was sure a man of your intelligence would have no problem at all working it out happy.gif

I'm sure that if a man or your intelligence can, I could get the Monkey to do it!

I'm not too bothered, but the invitation remains open to you-oh and Jag returns favours! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-13 19:34:49
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 13 2009, 05:04 PM) [snapback]578075[/snapback]
Under Labour, council tax went up something like 60% in ten years, way above inflation. I don't think freezing it at its current level is "same stew, different gravy"". Of course you want it to be increased 10% per annum. Well thank you very much, but I'd rather not pay an additional £250 next year and an additional £525 the year after that to D&G Council so that an LGBT outreach co-ordinator can retire at 50 on an inflation linked pension. I quite like this new slimline gravy. I can imagine that Councils don't like having to become reasonably efficient but if it means that they will stop some of the appalling wastes of money, then that's a good thing. Unfortunately some of them might try to squeeze the wrong areas, but that's a different question and that can be dealt with by other means.

laugh.gif

Reduced services!

The cooncils protect their own.
mortonjag 2009-02-13 19:40:09
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 13 2009, 04:42 PM) [snapback]578073[/snapback]
This is more like oor davie.
[attachment=5266:davie_mc...hur_fish.JPG]



QUOTE(Deego @ Feb 13 2009, 07:37 PM) [snapback]578127[/snapback]
You're not my mum are you?

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mortonjag 2009-02-13 19:48:07 I was actually enjoying the wind up until I came to this, when I suddenly felt uncontrollably homicidal.


Last night Michaela Aston, of the anti-abortion Christian charity LIFE, said: “We commend these teenagers for their courage in bringing their child into the world.

Why do they need fucking commendation you screwed up bitch. It was God's bloody will-wasn't it? ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-13 19:50:27
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 13 2009, 07:10 PM) [snapback]578104[/snapback]
Hmm....I could've sworn you said you were considering surgery a few months back. ph34r.gif

smile.gif

That was my vasectomy! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-13 19:54:10
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 13 2009, 07:44 PM) [snapback]578134[/snapback]
That's like saying 'oeuf' and 'egg' aren't the same thing.



QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 13 2009, 07:48 PM) [snapback]578137[/snapback]
I don't hear anyone here call an 'oeuf' an 'egg', but they're still the same thing. smile.gif

If you're hungry two eggs ain't un oeuf!
mortonjag 2009-02-13 19:58:26 Those who want it to be a whitewash have got all the ammo they need.

Those who consider the possibility that the polis may just have acted in good faith, and may not have deliberately set out to scythe down an innocent man, have got the answer they expected.
mortonjag 2009-02-13 20:03:04
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 13 2009, 07:59 PM) [snapback]578149[/snapback]
If you had said '[b]one egg ain't un oeuf'[/b] that would actually have been quite clever.

Shame you c***ed it up. tongue.gif

laugh.gif

As you very well know, one egg IS un oeuf!

And Bawheid is an oaf.
mortonjag 2009-02-13 20:06:46
QUOTE(Deego @ Feb 13 2009, 07:52 PM) [snapback]578142[/snapback]
Reveal yourself. ph34r.gif

N
S
FW



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mortonjag 2009-02-13 20:08:51
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 13 2009, 08:05 PM) [snapback]578153[/snapback]
so should we expect Bawheid to invite him to Scotland? huh.gif

That's entirely different! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-13 20:09:56
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 13 2009, 08:02 PM) [snapback]578151[/snapback]
I cant believe i sat through that, Irons wasn't even on it!

Maybe he was on the bench! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-13 20:11:24
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 13 2009, 08:09 PM) [snapback]578156[/snapback]
Err.. I believe Scotland is still in the UK blink.gif Hopefully not for long though, then we don't have to have London telling us who can come to Scotland.

Really-but you're not British.

You just make it up as you go along Spurtle.
mortonjag 2009-02-13 20:14:29
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 13 2009, 07:52 PM) [snapback]578141[/snapback]
You have to applaud the SNP for freezing the Council Tax for the remainder of their term in government.
Even though Labour at Westminster are going to cut the Scottish budget by £500 Million !! next year mad.gif

I DON'T have to applaud your bloody SNP for anything Spurtle. You must do them more harm on this website than the whole bloody opposition at Holyrood.

Are you one of Auntie Annabel's under cover agents?
mortonjag 2009-02-13 20:17:02
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 13 2009, 08:11 PM) [snapback]578159[/snapback]
Considering the amount of information they had on the bombers the initial failure not to have the necessary officers in place or why the so call suspect was allowed to get from his address to Stockwell tube station via bus without being challenged. If he was so much of a danger to the public he was allowed to infiltrate the transport system .

You can't have it both ways if one was a tragic accident then those who failed to get the manpower into position are culpable of incompetance .

It's been obvious to me from the outset that a mistake was made. When somebody dies under the surgeon's knife, it does not AUTOMATICALLY become a case of culpable homicide Chris!
mortonjag 2009-02-13 20:18:12
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 13 2009, 08:17 PM) [snapback]578163[/snapback]
Are you ? ohmy.gif

Your reluctance to answer the simplest of questions Spurtle, is WAY out of character.

I smell a rat!
mortonjag 2009-02-13 20:19:46
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 13 2009, 08:15 PM) [snapback]578161[/snapback]
No, I'm not british, your quite correct.

Stop being obtuse.

When's your next under cover briefing from the Scottish Tories?
mortonjag 2009-02-13 20:20:48
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Feb 13 2009, 08:18 PM) [snapback]578167[/snapback]
for, as long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be brought under English rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom -- for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.

signed

Hamish McHaggis
mortonjag 2009-02-13 20:22:02
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 13 2009, 08:21 PM) [snapback]578170[/snapback]
Sorry, hadn't realised that you'd been along to check the pitch today. dry.gif

Aye-well ye ken noo son.
mortonjag 2009-02-13 20:26:26
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Feb 13 2009, 08:23 PM) [snapback]578174[/snapback]
wasn't actually signed. Seal tags were attached to the bottom of it with the names of those in support and the writers of the declaration stated their name and title at the start of it.

laugh.gif

In those olden times men fought for their freedom! Now they wage a cyber battle to line Bawheid's pocket!
mortonjag 2009-02-13 20:44:56
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 13 2009, 08:29 PM) [snapback]578184[/snapback]
If someone dies on the operating table they would acknowledge whose fault it was if the patient died as being mistaken for the wrong patient then the whole system would come under the microscope not just the man holding the scalpel .

I believe mistakes were made by senior officers who were well aware of the danger of the terrorist cell but failed to organise their units to be inplace , which then led to this tragedy , if we cover up and allow police officers to change evidence and get away with it our whole system falls.

And if we expose less than perfect surgeons (not deliberate killers) public confidence will vanish.
mortonjag 2009-02-13 20:45:48
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 13 2009, 08:26 PM) [snapback]578180[/snapback]
Yawn.

Try a mug of Horlicks!
mortonjag 2009-02-13 20:46:58
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 13 2009, 08:26 PM) [snapback]578181[/snapback]
Only sweet dreams of the union flag being lowered from Edinburgh Castle for evermore laugh.gif

..and what will poor Spurtle do then, poor thing?
mortonjag 2009-02-13 20:49:38
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 13 2009, 08:25 PM) [snapback]578178[/snapback]
A Tory ? Don't insult me MJ mad.gif

I really AM beginning to wonder what your agenda is. You present Bawheid and his weans in such idyllic terms that you MUST be courting ridicule. I reckon you and Auntie Annabel are comfortable bedfellows!
mortonjag 2009-02-13 20:50:24
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 13 2009, 08:49 PM) [snapback]578200[/snapback]
but should we not warrant the truth no matter the consequences

Absolutely NOT!
mortonjag 2009-02-13 20:53:21
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 13 2009, 08:51 PM) [snapback]578205[/snapback]
I'm beginning to wonder what your agenda is........ bag.gif

In which case you are VERY slow! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-13 20:55:56
QUOTE(Deego @ Feb 13 2009, 08:49 PM) [snapback]578201[/snapback]
Hello, the game is off, incase you didn't know. What are you doing instead? I'm thinking about going to the Shire game.

xx

I'm thinking of running a nice hot bath and steeping in it all afternoon to the beautiful sound of Morrisey.
mortonjag 2009-02-13 20:57:39
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 13 2009, 08:54 PM) [snapback]578208[/snapback]
I move onto the monarchy MJ laugh.gif

Abolish the Union of Parliaments 1707, then abolish the Union of Crowns 1603 rolleyes.gif

I don't think you'd enjoy that. The monarchy is well and truly fucked, and everybody would just agree with you.
mortonjag 2009-02-13 21:16:13
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 13 2009, 08:58 PM) [snapback]578216[/snapback]
Will you be taking up employment as Mr Salmonds advisor then rolleyes.gif
laugh.gif

Depends on how much he's offering!

If by the 'truth' you mean making public every mistake ever made by those whom the public hold in trust, I believe that would be to the huge detriment of general well being.

I've not taken any specific interest in this case. The police apparently killed an innocent man-shit happens.

I'm all for capital punishment in certain situations, even if once in a wee while a mistake is made.

The trouble with our media led and fed society is that they constantly let their hearts rule their heads. The common good should always precede the 'rights' of any individual.
mortonjag 2009-02-13 21:18:38
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 13 2009, 09:15 PM) [snapback]578221[/snapback]
Is that not the same as your lot making the claim that they would save £4m by cutting thru "organisational spaghetti" and feed it back into the system.

However, costs for public bodies have now rocketed.

Consequently, there are claims of cuts from across Scotland. Within the police service, Grampian has sought volunteers among civilian staff for redundancy. In the NHS, £500m in savings are being demanded by 2011. Opposition parties say there is evidence that the "efficiency savings" are actually being made in frontline care on wards.
dry.gif

Has there been any of the Manifesto actually came to fruition?

NOPE!
mortonjag 2009-02-13 21:23:34
QUOTE(Deego @ Feb 13 2009, 09:20 PM) [snapback]578224[/snapback]
Who? dry.gif

Morrisey!
mortonjag 2009-02-13 22:06:53
QUOTE(Deego @ Feb 13 2009, 09:33 PM) [snapback]578228[/snapback]
MORRISSEY.

Aye-she's the one!
mortonjag 2009-02-13 22:33:48
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 13 2009, 10:29 PM) [snapback]578234[/snapback]
If you take away the rights of the individual you don't have democracy .The law is there for the individual no one is more or less in the eyes of the law .

Your ideals put a grey area into the law which I think any government would relish . Police and courts are there to serve the public they must be accountable to the public.

The 'rights' of the individual are a function of a civilised society-not an absolute. Democracy doesn't have to be a 'Holy Cow' either.

If shooting one 'good guy' to save two equally 'good guys' is the only option, what would you do?
mortonjag 2009-02-14 07:58:55
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Feb 14 2009, 01:50 AM) [snapback]578259[/snapback]
OK as previously pointed out this game was always in serious doubt since last w/end.

Cumbernauld had heavy snow as we enjoyed rain.
Clyde had injury and suspension issues.
The pitch ain't just frozen it's covered in a blanket of snow, with ice on top [/b] rolleyes.gif



Sorry Willy man-you've got this quite wrong-and by the way here's the forecast for Cumbernauld-it's Chinook weather.


You are now viewing BBC Weather's five day forecast for Cumbernauld Glasgow, United Kingdom.
BBC Weather five day forecast headings:



Saturday

Sunrise 07:43 (GMT)
Sunset 17:15 (GMT)
Saturday's predominant weather is forecast to be drizzle.

8°C

7°C

Saturday's wind direction: South South Westerly Wind.8
moderate 1026 86
Saturday's UV index risk: 1.

Saturday's atmospheric pollution: Low.



They could easily play the game this afternoon even if they started clearing any residual snow now. They have cheated as stated elsewhere because of injuries and suspensions. Imagine asking for a pitch inspection a day and a half before the match, when away fans only have an hour and a half to travel.

They wanted that bloody inspection AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE because they are fucking cheats and bottlers. Isn't it typical of the wimp authorities that they cow towed-but wait-what if they hadn't switched on the under soil heating--AH but that's different.

Well I say it's NOT DIFFERENT-Clyde had a responsibility to do everything in their power to have this match played, and they did everything in their power to do the opposite and they should be fined for cheating! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-14 08:04:34
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 14 2009, 02:27 AM) [snapback]578265[/snapback]
I'm going to do f*** all. Thanks you bunch of central belt wankers... mad.gif

and cheating bastards.
mortonjag 2009-02-14 08:28:36
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 13 2009, 10:56 PM) [snapback]578239[/snapback]
In this case we shot an innocent man to save Cressida Dick and others is democracy served by protecting those who hide the truth to protect themselves ?

I'm not arguing the rights and wrongs of this particular case Chris-what I'm stating unequivocally is that it is NOT always in the public interest to be fed the truth, nor does the public have a divine right to lecture to those vested with authority on how they should conduct themselves.

What appears to be acknowledged here is that an innocent man was slain by the police.

The rest has been so tainted, spun, and milked by the media, that it is hardly surprising that you and others feel so strongly about it.

SO-who do you CHOOSE to believe-the official version or the media spun version-or a bit of both.

As far as I'm concerned the Police ARE responsible for the foreseeable results of their actions-you and TiD et al may be correct-I just don't know, and NEITHER DO YOU!
mortonjag 2009-02-14 08:35:07
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 13 2009, 10:52 PM) [snapback]578238[/snapback]
It's getting tedious proving you wrong again MJ laugh.gif

"46 out of 94 headline SNP election manifesto commitments had already been achieved less than halfway into the four-year parliamentary term."

Almost two years into its term in office the SNP has failed to deliver on over 50% of its manifesto pledges Spurtle.

And you spin that as good news in the very week in which Bawheid's not only been forced to meekly perform an embarrassing about turn on one of his KEYNOTE pledges, but also spurn a couple of loyal aides because he's so self satisfied that he believes he can control his enemies by 'befriending them'

The knives are out in private.


ET TU BRUTE!
mortonjag 2009-02-14 08:41:40
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 13 2009, 11:10 PM) [snapback]578241[/snapback]
Whitehall’s oil plans to head off Scottish devolution

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/s...icle5729017.ece

Documents showing secret plans drawn up by the British government in the 1970s to prevent Scotland laying claim to North Sea oil

The proposals included proposing to Labour ministers, for whom devolution was a manifesto commitment, to delay progress towards a referendum, in the hope that enthusiasm in Scotland would wane. Treasury officials also proposed redrawing the boundaries defining Scotland’s coastal waters and creating a sector which would “neutralise†Scotland’s claim on North Sea oil — a move that was adopted

Perhaps the most remarkable suggestion came from a Treasury official who proposed that a local campaign for independence in Orkney and Shetland should be encouraged so that Scotland would be denied access to more than half of its North Sea oil. The idea was that the northern isles would prefer to throw in their lot with London rather than Edinburgh

f***in disgraceful !!! mad.gif




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mortonjag 2009-02-14 08:48:13 I wonder how much snow is left on the Broadwood pitch at this very moment-we've had a total thaw in Glasgow, and it's VERY mild for this time of year with a light SW wind.

ABSOLUTELY NO WAY THEY NEEDED TO CALL THIS GAME OFF! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-14 10:42:40
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 14 2009, 10:06 AM) [snapback]578293[/snapback]
OK, I'll bite ... in what way are they 'cheating bastards'?

Ask Zutons!
mortonjag 2009-02-14 10:46:05
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 14 2009, 10:05 AM) [snapback]578291[/snapback]
Don't talk pish. Clyde have two players injured (long term), and one suspension (Tade).

AFAIK, it was the ref that called the game off.

Didn't have you down as a wind up merchant, Willow. tongue.gif laugh.gif

AFAIK the ref was summoned when Clyde were still sure he'd postpone the match!

As I said elsewhere, I'd LOVE to know the state of the pitch right now even WITHOUT any attempt to remove any remaining snow.

Didn't have YOU down as a Gypo supporter! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-14 10:50:27
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 14 2009, 09:41 AM) [snapback]578287[/snapback]
Almost two year MJ. Not quite 50% through his term in office. Another committment and that's 50%. I would say they are bang on track laugh.gif

Don't talk pish-they've pushed through the easy and daft stuff-somebody else mentioned the vote catching and utterly ridiculous scrapping of bridge tolls-the money's GOT to come from somewhere else-or are you going to argue about that too.

When's your next briefing from Auntie Annabel anyway? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-14 10:58:30
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 14 2009, 09:35 AM) [snapback]578285[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


mortonjag 2009-02-16 07:34:52
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Feb 14 2009, 02:50 PM) [snapback]578374[/snapback]
Mortonjag - where did you get this from ?

Nothing on the official site - are you at the wind-up ?

I don't do wind ups! laugh.gif

It was posted on the Clyde FC official web site, and I discovered it last week when I was trying to suss out their scandalous cheating tactics over an entirely playable pitch.

BTW it's still there if you care to check!

90 Minutes - 13th February
Thu, 12th Feb 2009 11:31pm

Revival FM's regular Friday night football show, broadcast in conjunction with the club, can be heard on Friday from 6.30pm.

The scheduled guests this week are; manager John Brown, director John Ruddy, Morton boss Davie Irons and journalist Gordon Parks.

The show's hosts will be looking out for your questions and views via the Official Website's live Chat Room.

You can listen to the show at 100.8FM or http://revival.fm. Website Members can join the live chat here or via the members menu.
mortonjag 2009-02-16 07:48:24
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Feb 14 2009, 05:07 PM) [snapback]578440[/snapback]
Don't you just love this board wub.gif If the club listens to what you have to say they are assholes for not thinking of it first.
If they don't think of it first they are assholes for not. Is it any wonder that the club practically ignore any comments on this board. And who would blame them.

This board has become an embarrassment blush.gif due to some of the posts by so called supporters.

Good morning Measles-I see we're back again-does Great King Rat know about your multiple identities?

Anyway, I just wanted to let you know that I'm now the proud possessor of a lovely Greyhound called Jinty, and she's wondering if bitches get to join your Trust for a reduced price.

Stop being immature and defending the club's well documented record of criminal incompetence, and HOW DARE YOU blame our unofficial web site. If one thing's cast in stone, it's the fact that the club pays no attention to us, albeit some of Rae's paid minions try to cause trouble on here!

I think this is a perfectly sound idea. My first suggestion is that the space wasted in every match day programme for lengthy sayings by the Chairman could be used to sell more advertising.
mortonjag 2009-02-16 07:52:16
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 14 2009, 11:23 AM) [snapback]578313[/snapback]
You are far too cynical for your own good, sonny.

Clyde do have covers. They chose to 'play it' for an early inspection. Broadwood would have been playable at 3 p.m. on Saturday. Clyde have cheated and got off with it! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-16 08:56:53
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Feb 14 2009, 05:06 PM) [snapback]578439[/snapback]
I do not hate/ dislike anyone because of their skin colour. I do not hate/ dislike anyone because of their nationality. No one in this country voted for our government to open our borders to all, no one voted to be governed by a corrupt European parliament. Our country has turned into a world-wide cash cow. We have had influxes from the poorer european nations, africa, asia etc etc, not to work to make the uk better but to take advantage of our benefit and medical systems, there are exceptions. With this influx of cheep labour and the rewarding benefit system we have also turned the less skilled uk citizens into workshy louts who would rather sit in their holes getting every benefit under the sun than get out to work. Are you happy paying your taxes to pay for these people, are you happy that foreign companies are bringing in their own workforces into the uk while local people are desperate and qualified to do these jobs, the list goes on and on. I am neither right or left wing, my politics have been built up through years of personal experiences. I have lived through left and right governments and each is as bad as each other. With all this liberalisation and human rights it has only benefited the minorities while the hard working, law abiding citizens are being completely shafted and if anyone complains then they are immediately shot down as a racist, homophobe, bigot etc etc. Taking away freedoms and rights from the common man/ woman/ cross gender to increase the balance for a small minority is wrong and will only lead to more dissent from the people losing those freedoms and rights.


Refreshing post there Doc!
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 14 2009, 06:00 PM) [snapback]578466[/snapback]
To be honest it's pretty populist stuff and the highlighted bit could be straight from a Sun editorial.
You didn't answer my question about immigration in your own family and do you really think the killing of an innocent man can be dismissed because you believe him to be illegal?


Stop being a complete prick-Peter. The Polis shot the wrong man. White British weans get mown down by drunken drivers every other week and there's no fuckin' hue and cry like this-presumably because it's nothing unusual so the scumbag press are not interested.

OH-and just a wee question-WHAT IF THE POLIS HAD BEEN RIGHT-but waited for authorisation from the bloody Home Office before playing with their pea shooters.

'HUNNERS OF GOOD POLIS BLOWN TO SMITHEREENS BY POND LIFE TERRORIST'-there's a nice wee headline! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-16 09:02:29 I see the ideas are as few as the posts are many! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-16 09:08:00
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 14 2009, 04:05 PM) [snapback]578416[/snapback]
Chav comes from 'chavo' na old Romany word meaning little man. It's a particularly nasty little word that wankers like to use to put the working class in their place.


Definition please Peter-and not the first time I've asked either!
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 15 2009, 11:19 AM) [snapback]578624[/snapback]
Possibly the most prescient posting on this thread. Lots of dosh to be made by selling interviews to the red-tops.
Backronym? I love it. laugh.gif
I would agree, the first mention of non educated delinquent came from Rosie Kane.

Where is she now? unsure.gif

Picking up her benefit I'd imagine! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-16 09:36:07
QUOTE(Magic Mathie @ Feb 14 2009, 03:33 PM) [snapback]578395[/snapback]
Don't laugh!! I've still had no confirmation. I'm too tired to care now. If I lose my status as a loan note holder I can prove that I've paid anyway.

Bryan tried to get an answer - credit to him.

Why don't you email Stuart Duncan?
mortonjag 2009-02-16 09:39:07
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Feb 16 2009, 09:30 AM) [snapback]578799[/snapback]
after I comment on this statement I will read the rest of the thread.... WAR LIKE CONDITIONS... are you f***ing serious, aye yer right.. men,women and children going about their daily buisness.. going to work... school.... buying newspapers, etc etc.. thats REAL war like conditions aint it !!! it was f***ing murder.. no doubt about it... no amount of scaremongering can justify this guys killing...

That's quite correct, and no amount of emotive propaganda can alter the fact that a genuine mistake was made.
mortonjag 2009-02-16 09:41:25
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 15 2009, 10:15 PM) [snapback]578767[/snapback]
Polyps are abnormal growths of tissue projecting from a mucous membrane of the colon. They are a potential 'early warning' sign for colon cancer. Sound like yours is as clean as a whistle, well done mate. thumbup2.gif

Growths of abnormal tissue! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-16 10:54:54
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 16 2009, 09:49 AM) [snapback]578804[/snapback]
Football is a bit like the record industry in that people see themselves as 'fans' as opposed to 'customers' which leads to them assuming some sort of 'expert' knowledge. Because you attend games every week doesn't mean yu know how to run or market a football club.
It used to drive me nuts when I worked in the record industry when people spoke of how to get 'hit' records or how a record should be worked when their only relationship to the actual industry was buying an album every now and again.

I know what you mean Peter-folk should know how to fit an IUCD before they're entitled to comment on Doctor- Patient relations! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-16 10:57:44 Partick scored three on Saturday and still got beat. We'll have to attack them. Do you think we will, or perhaps sheep lips will be aiming for another inglorious draw!

I believe we CAN beat them. I don't believe we will! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-16 11:01:34
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Feb 16 2009, 10:07 AM) [snapback]578812[/snapback]
jag... your'e talking pure s***e on this one... it was not a genuine mistake, that much has been proven. it was a clear case of incompetance.. youre a doctor right ? does it REALLY take 8 bullets to the head to kill an unarmed man ? I bet you thought Harold Shipman was doing a fine job too and shouldnt have been questioned on his Technique .

So they knew the man was innocent before they shot him! laugh.gif


mortonjag 2009-02-16 11:03:33 I think it's unkind to call MacDonalds workers 'freaks', though most of them are rather fat!
mortonjag 2009-02-16 11:15:46
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Feb 16 2009, 11:04 AM) [snapback]578829[/snapback]
no .. more impotrantly THEY DIDNT KNOW HE WAS GUILTY !!! and anyway since when have the police operated a shoot to kill policy

Since terrorists started indiscriminately blowing up innocent people-in whom you clearly have NO interest!

You're tying yourself up in knots. It was a genuine mistake made under immense pressure.

Here's a wee scenario: you are lying at the roadside after a serious accident, and a doc arrives on the scene. He reckons the only way to save you is to inject you with a drug which CAN sometimes kill allergic people, so he doesn't bother just in case you die of the allergy-and you snuff it anyway. That equates to what you retrospectively want!

If he fails to inject, he's guilty of incompetence. If he injects and you die from the allergic reaction he's simply made a mistake!

You don't really like the polis! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-16 11:38:58
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 16 2009, 11:31 AM) [snapback]578835[/snapback]
Ahh the old "Shoot to kill" nonsense. What do you think firearms officers are taught, "Shoot to tickle"? unsure.gif

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mortonjag 2009-02-16 12:29:17
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 16 2009, 11:47 AM) [snapback]578837[/snapback]
CowshedWarrior - you're wasting your time mate.

Best just to let it go, and realise that there are some people who don't value human life or natural justice in quite the same way you do.

Different strokes and all that .....

TonInDublin

Well I CERTAINLY hope you ain't referring to mortonjag.

I have asked before if the armed police knew he was innocent before deciding to massacre him in cold blood. It's not like you to be so unilateral in an argument TiD!

If you can prove to me that they did-- that there was not the tiniest shred of suspicion that he might be about to kill many innocent people (and I don't give a fuck if EVERY ONE was an illegal immigrant either!) I'll join you in condemning the action outright.

Unless you can, it was a tragic mistake-no more and no less.

I await the proof.
mortonjag 2009-02-16 12:32:26
QUOTE(Loveless @ Feb 16 2009, 12:27 PM) [snapback]578844[/snapback]
My name is on the front of my building, it's on my door and it's also on a badge on my shirt, what does that make me?

And don't anyone say a w*nker!

All dentists are winkers-it's that bloody water squirting into their eyes when they're excavating.
mortonjag 2009-02-16 12:40:41 Mamas and Papas Primo Viaggio car seat - blue - I can guarantee it has never been dropped or in an accident

Mamas & Papas Pliko P3 pramette - blue -pram converts into a pushchair, and has a footmuff and raincover. The car seat clips onto it.

Both in virtually new condition.
mortonjag 2009-02-16 12:45:11
QUOTE(Loveless @ Feb 16 2009, 12:34 PM) [snapback]578848[/snapback]
laugh.gif

I'm so used to being called tooth mechanic by you that I've started preferring that to winker or w*nker. Tooth carpenter is also acceptable.

As is implant investor!
mortonjag 2009-02-16 12:50:02
QUOTE(brigton @ Feb 15 2009, 06:26 PM) [snapback]578721[/snapback]
Changing car soon, thinking of going for a Saab, would you recommend them?

It's the old story of what you want Brig. There are loads of motors that are far better value for money in my opinion. The particular model I have is a 'one off' and compares very well with Audi/BMW/Merc for price, but I'd probably go for something else if I just wanted an average saloon.
mortonjag 2009-02-16 12:54:13
QUOTE(Loveless @ Feb 16 2009, 12:48 PM) [snapback]578853[/snapback]
Agree with most of this actually. Assuming you are at least half intelligent you'll admit be didn't deserve to die though.

Of course he didn't-neither did the ordinary Gerry soldiers in the Second World War, but we couldn't let old Adolf have his way! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-16 13:01:32 Here's a thought. All the pie stalls sell non Golden Casket confectionery. I'm assuming they are 'let' to private individuals. Surely the Club could run those on an 'in house' basis. I reckon that could be made far more profitable AND efficient!
mortonjag 2009-02-16 13:10:58
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 16 2009, 01:01 PM) [snapback]578857[/snapback]
Couple of points ..... first up I wasn't referring to you Ernie, in fairness you have been
firmly in the "I don't know" space since you started replying on this thread.

Secondly my criticism of this whole incident is not aimed particularly at the officers who actually shot the guy - but more of that later - they do have a case to answer also.

My main criticism is of the entire intelligence operation - and the fact that those people had very high suspicions that they had the wrong guy, didn't bother to check if they did or not, didn't follow any proper protocols in arresting or even eliminating the threat as it unfolded. That they then hid evidence, lied and tried to cover their arses at every turn.

In any other job, this would be gross criminal neglience, and they would be doing time.

With respect to the officers who actually shot him,I had a modicum of sympathy for them, UNTIL they also lied, as per the results of the inquest.

It was a trying time for sure, but from start to finish ALL evidence they had pointed at them having the wrong guy, from the first request A DAY BEFORE from the intelligence officer watching the flat to say he thought they had the wrong person and could someone else come and verify. A request which was refused.

To all of the subsequent issues I outlined in my first reply on this thread.

The EVIDENCE is overwhelming - indeed most of it is not even disputed by the police and government authorities any more. The jury were unequivocal in returning their verdict and answers.

So it is clear to me that the authorities had MORE than enough evidence to suggest they had the wrong person well in advance - from his appearance, to his clothing, to his actions and demeanour.

If this had been a British citizen on the tail end of this, home or abroad, we'd be absolutely outraged - and rightly so.

Irrespective of all of that, some of the commentary on this thread is disappointing.
The fact that this was a foreign national who may have been working illegally making it somehow fair game for him to be summarily executed is an anathema to me.

TonInDublin


I'm not discussing what happened after the event TiD. Many were covering their arses for alleged mistakes.

All I'm stating is that the guys who shot and killed him were obeying orders in the full belief that they were targeting a terrorist, and I strongly object to all the emotive stuff about them gunning down an innocent man in cold blood.
mortonjag 2009-02-16 13:12:57
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Feb 16 2009, 01:07 PM) [snapback]578858[/snapback]
That could be labelled as slanderous MJ.

MJ: "Haha look at all of those fat b*****ds lining up for numerous pies and bovrils." then followed by a full scale rant at Dougie.

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mortonjag 2009-02-16 13:19:04
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Feb 16 2009, 01:14 PM) [snapback]578862[/snapback]
blink.gif. Sorry it is severe boredom. Induction motors are tedious to learn about sad.gif.

To answer your original post, then yes the club would most likely create a wee profit for themselves.

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That's MUCH better! If Shoogly was to sell his own merchandise, it would surely help the Club directly since Golden Casket subsidises us for the time being. No point in handing over our dosh to Mr Nestle etc!
mortonjag 2009-02-16 13:22:40
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 16 2009, 01:18 PM) [snapback]578864[/snapback]
And the only part of that I would take issue with is the fact that the chap was complying fully with them right up to the moment they put eight dum dums in his brain.

Even at that stage it was avoidable.

TonInDublin

Or so the story goes-and I'm NOT saying you're wrong either-simply questioning sources.
mortonjag 2009-02-16 13:51:01 Nothing will better attractive and successful football, but the other thread on marketing ideas is a bona fide attempt by the Club to let us put forward ideas.
mortonjag 2009-02-16 13:57:04
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 16 2009, 01:25 PM) [snapback]578868[/snapback]
I doubt very much if McGinn would have much time for the travesty of a man that Connolly has become. Unlike Connolly, McGinn remained true to the causes of ordinary working people and his country.

A bit harsh Mr Edwards-the Big Yin never pretended to be anything other than a paid entertainer-he made money by sharing the funny side of the Glasgow he knew-I'm not conscious that he ever attempted to glorify it. Oh-and he did turn into a risible caricature of the Scot, but I blame that glaicet cow he married! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-16 15:36:41
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Feb 16 2009, 02:46 PM) [snapback]578910[/snapback]
ok ok very good

Young children are scared of insects! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-16 15:38:19
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Feb 16 2009, 02:49 PM) [snapback]578911[/snapback]
They lost 3-2... tongue.gif

Did they indeed? I was sure the Sunday Mail had 4-3! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-16 15:41:08
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 16 2009, 03:27 PM) [snapback]578923[/snapback]
Some good ideas there, but I have to take umbrage at your opening statement "I think it is a poor show from the club that some of these simple ideas being mentioned haven't been getting used from the outset."

Forget about the past, the club have realised that and want to move forward.

Hey Barbie-it's great news-has Shoogly had a brainstorm or is it somebody else's idea? blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-16 15:43:25
QUOTE(foxy @ Feb 16 2009, 02:39 PM) [snapback]578906[/snapback]
Do you have any pictures?

I might be interested

The stuff's in the car right now foxy, but if you're genuinely interested I'll try to get a couple of foties up by this evening.
mortonjag 2009-02-16 15:46:06
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 16 2009, 02:14 PM) [snapback]578899[/snapback]
Well thats what the inquest found after questioning all of the officers involved.
And there's video evidence to back it up. The video is there of him walking into the station, buying a newspaper, using his travel ticket to go through the ticket machine, wlaking calmy to, and standing normally on the platform.

The evidence of what happened on the train from the officers involved was what shaped the juries verdict.

Pretty damning and unequivocal stuff I'd have thought.

TonInDublin

I've not taken a specific interest in the case. Why did they suddenly decide to let him have it?
mortonjag 2009-02-16 15:49:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 16 2009, 03:21 PM) [snapback]578919[/snapback]
You're right enough, Connolly has been pretending to be an entertainer for a long time.

That was quite witty Mr Edwards!
mortonjag 2009-02-16 16:02:02 I might as well throw in my tuppence worth. My old man was 'called up' when he was nineteen. His parents were-I guess-working class, but they had decided to pay him through University. He lost almost seven years of his young life fighting for our country and had to start Uni. all over again. In the first General Election after the war folk were expecting a new beginning and Labour seemed to be the choice. My Mum and Dad duly voted for them-FOR THE FIRST AND LAST TIME!

After that I think they voted Tory mainly, though I remember my Mum was very keen on Winnie Ewing and they may have varied their vote over the years.

Why am I telling you all this?

I'm not quite sure-oh aye-they never tried to influence how I voted!

And to the poster who is extolling the virtues of the poll tax-it was doomed from the start-fiscally unworkable as LIT might very well prove to be also! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-16 16:05:31
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 16 2009, 03:55 PM) [snapback]578943[/snapback]
The two officers on the train initially stated that De Menezes froze when challenged, but then made a forward move, and grabbed one of the officers in a bear hug. They also stated that they saw wires coming from his duffle coat which they thought could have been the detonator for a suicide bomb. Based on that they let fly with the dum dums.

Except under close questioning they admitted that they never told De Menezes they were armed police, he never grabbed one of them in a bear hug, he was following their orders and the video evidence and pictures the police released of De Menezes on the train showed him wearing a short denim jacket which would hardly have concealed his belly.

TonInDublin

I didn't realise that the whole thing had been video'ed. Do you have a link?
mortonjag 2009-02-16 16:07:38
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 16 2009, 03:43 PM) [snapback]578931[/snapback]
No comment. blush.gif

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mortonjag 2009-02-16 16:09:12
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Feb 16 2009, 03:55 PM) [snapback]578944[/snapback]
Feck knows, maybe it was 4-3. Aye, after a quick check at the paper, you are indeed correct! blush.gif

And to think I believed you! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-16 16:16:18
QUOTE(foxy @ Feb 16 2009, 03:52 PM) [snapback]578942[/snapback]
that would be appreciated....I will have to get 1 before June so you may have saved me a lot of effort.

Just done a search on it to save you any hassle with pictures.

Any chance i can get a look at it? Wouldnt have the funds for it until the end of month though.

Well it's in Glasgow at the moment-where are you based?
mortonjag 2009-02-16 16:20:41
QUOTE(foxy @ Feb 16 2009, 04:17 PM) [snapback]578959[/snapback]
i work in glasgow, but im off today.
Up to you, when would suit you

Can you get to the Pollokshaws area sometime tomorrow-either at your lunch break or after work?

p.m. me if you can and I'll give you details.
mortonjag 2009-02-16 16:23:26
QUOTE(irnbru @ Feb 16 2009, 04:14 PM) [snapback]578955[/snapback]
I'm not sure they have though - it still seems to be run like a village fete and not a club who want to go places fast.

However, with the new stand being built then it might be a positive sign of things to come. Time will tell....

You have to remember that up till now absolutely everything has had to be approved by Mr Rae. I sense that he has softened in that respect, and I REALLY wonder why.
mortonjag 2009-02-16 20:08:47
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 16 2009, 04:56 PM) [snapback]578975[/snapback]
When we had to win there last season we got out the traps quickly and ran right over the top of them. A wee repeat of that will do fine!

Does anyone else believe that the good doctor actually gets the Sunday Mail? I thought he would have been a Sunday Herald man!!

Of course I get the Sunday Herald-I'm trying to win my fourth Oxford Dictionary in the crossword competition. I only get the Monday Snail for the football-in the same way as I buy the Sun! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-16 20:17:08
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 16 2009, 07:25 PM) [snapback]579029[/snapback]
shhooooossshhhh boozie , mj will hear. i was only kidding

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Don't be silly-Saabs are in general wankers' cars, but not MY Saab!
mortonjag 2009-02-16 20:21:03
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 16 2009, 05:00 PM) [snapback]578978[/snapback]
I'm not extolling the Poll Tax, MJ, but merely pointing out that on a scale of fairness, the poll tax scores more highly than the Council Tax. LIT would seem however to be a lot fairer than either, and I suspect about 99% of the "problems" with LIT are being put there deliberately for political reasons rather than reasons of genuine belief. LIT is used in other countries and if they can make it work surely we can too if there is the will so to do. BTW remember that most local government funding comes centrally - it wouldn't be a huge step to make that 100%, although that would of course remove any last vestige of local accountability.

As for Barbarossa's point about the SNP failing to deliver all their manifesto, if they had a majority they would do so - no party can deliver their manifesto without a majority either on their own or in coalition. That's why they can't deliver some things - the other parties block them or would block them if they got the chance. I reckon the SNP are doing ok under very difficult circumstances and Labour should hang their heads in shame at their blatant scorched earth tactics both in Holyrood and at Westminster. At least Annabel's lot are being constructive if a bit misguided. Labour are just being spiteful.

I agree entirely about the 'fairness' aspect, but I reckon that LIT-at least in this neck o' the woods would be just as unworkable as Poll Tax was-a cheat's paradise!
mortonjag 2009-02-16 20:24:08
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 16 2009, 06:33 PM) [snapback]579014[/snapback]
Good to hear you got it back.

But I'm surprised....do people actually not bother checking their bank accounts? I get mini statements about once every 3 days and also keep receipts of all ATM activity.

Bloody hell-you've only just escaped from college. By the time you're a real accountant you'll be demanding a receipt when you drop washers into that busty dame's charity tin!
mortonjag 2009-02-16 20:27:02
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Feb 15 2009, 08:21 PM) [snapback]578747[/snapback]
As a burd who's got a couple of interviews (CMT and GP VTS) over the next couple of weeks, I'm intriuged. Do feel free to highlight said basics...

Suss out the enemy. If you're going to be interviewed by old lechers let it all hang out and wear a pelmet. If they're rather staid and fuddy duddy, do the opposite!
mortonjag 2009-02-16 20:28:45
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 16 2009, 06:39 PM) [snapback]579019[/snapback]
A girlfriend from many moons ago was also getting her sayings mixed up, some of her best ones were...

- (when describing someone car that got vandalised) 'They let down the windows and smashed the tyres'.

- (after several hours sunbathing without any apparent results) 'Look at me, I'm as white as a berry'.

- (describing a particularly hectic day) 'I've been running about all day like a blue arsed maddy'.

- described the colour of a new dress once as 'chalk blue'.

There were loads more but I've forgotten them.

I take it you hot your goal with relative ease!
mortonjag 2009-02-16 20:30:13
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 16 2009, 08:10 PM) [snapback]579039[/snapback]
Don't give us that! At your age we all know what you buy the Sun for - lets just call it a wee memory tug!!

I'm not a Tory-how dare you? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-16 20:31:22
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 16 2009, 08:22 PM) [snapback]579043[/snapback]
Current fit first team squad

Goallies: Cuthbert and Stewart

Defenders: Walker Greacen Shimmin Smith McManus

Midfield: Finlayson McGuffie, Jenkins, Masterton, Paartalu, McAllister

Forwards: Weatherson, Wake, Russell

Long term injured: Harding, McGregor, Grady

Out on Loan: Newby Stevenson Graham McAnespie (not sure is McAnespie on loan or just gone?)

I make it we have 16 fit players apart from a couple of boys and only Grady maybe likely to come back in the next couple of weeks. We better hope we don't have many more injuries or suspensions! All of the back line have had longish injuries before apart from Smith.

I guess we have been lucky that none of our injuries so far have been to key players - touches wood several times!!


McAlister!
mortonjag 2009-02-17 07:37:51 Enough of your ideology!

and Auntie Annabel says he's a lazy bastard!

Stop the London junketry.
mortonjag 2009-02-17 07:46:58
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Feb 16 2009, 07:24 PM) [snapback]579028[/snapback]
I am sure the women who run this side of our Club do their best, but I'm sorry, I have to agree with others, why haven't they thought of many of these glaringly obvious ideas already? They are employed full-time, as well as maintaining the current commercial products, they should thinking about new ideas all the time.

I'm not sure how much of these ideas Daddy Rae would let them carry out anyway. Even if it meant we could have a third more attending with these suggested incentives for youngsters, he probably has his own outdated views.

I mean, this is the guy who insists on that cringeworthy Europop song being played before kick-off at Cappielow! Unless Inverally can correct me, Mr Rae apparently complained to your predecessor when he tried to stop playing it?

I'm sure we have enough insiders ph34r.gif to put this right one way or another. I'm wondering HOW MANY full time employees Rae has at Cappielow apart from playing and coaching staff.

I find it extremely difficult to believe that more than ONE efficient full time employee is required to run the day to day paperwork and communications side, yet that has to date been an utter shambles.
mortonjag 2009-02-17 07:50:42 Looks like Shoogly stopped sheep lips' pocket money when he got peed off with his wondrous signing!
mortonjag 2009-02-17 07:52:37
QUOTE(marx @ Feb 17 2009, 03:27 AM) [snapback]579111[/snapback]
Only on your fourth.
Tut Tut

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I have to use a new name each time!
mortonjag 2009-02-17 07:55:04
QUOTE(brigton @ Feb 16 2009, 10:45 PM) [snapback]579085[/snapback]
Probably just go for the Beemer then, just fancied a wee change.

BMW's are pricey and extremely common, but they are also bloody good motors. Interior fit and general build are better than Saab.
mortonjag 2009-02-17 08:01:00

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 16 2009, 11:50 PM) [snapback]579090[/snapback]
But they're not dustbowl refugees. Sorry Davie, I couldn't resist it. biggrin.gif I don't feel sorry for the polis, they didn't murder but they lied through their teeth.'What followed' didn't just undermine democracy, it undermined justice. The inquest was a sham and the outcome became a foregone conclusion when the jury was told that it could not return a verdict of unlawful killing. How else could one describe the killing of an innocent man in those circumstances I wonder. A careless mistake? It was, just as surely as the mistake made by the Portugese lorry driver whose carelessness caused the death of a family of six, but he got three years.
What happened to Menezes resulted from criminal negligence and those responsible, not just the frontline officers, should have been disciplined.



It would have been nice to add a wee 'IMO' Mr Edwards.

Anyway you're talking pish! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-17 08:07:08
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Feb 17 2009, 07:41 AM) [snapback]579114[/snapback]
Murphy is a choob though.

How do you tell one Smartie from another apart from the colour! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-17 09:07:36
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 17 2009, 09:01 AM) [snapback]579137[/snapback]
Just like on here then??

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mortonjag 2009-02-17 09:10:35
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 17 2009, 08:08 AM) [snapback]579128[/snapback]
Suit jacket and pelmet eh, careful what you say though you'll be sending auld Jaggy's blood pressure through the roof. smile.gif

Don't be a silly boy-I have a nudie picture of Auntie Annabel as my screensaver. happy.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-17 09:12:25
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 17 2009, 08:24 AM) [snapback]579130[/snapback]
Yes you are indeed Doctor (IMO). laugh.gif

Sorry-you're SPOUTING pish! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-17 09:19:01
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Feb 16 2009, 09:12 PM) [snapback]579067[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-02-17 09:42:46
QUOTE(dazed @ Feb 17 2009, 09:09 AM) [snapback]579144[/snapback]
Enough of your ideology!

and Auntie Annabel says he's a lazy bastard!
Yeah the pink suited heifer is in a fine position to slag anybody! smile.gif

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To law abiding coos.
mortonjag 2009-02-17 09:45:28
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Feb 17 2009, 09:23 AM) [snapback]579150[/snapback]
exactly.... when will people realise that if we dont stand up for each other then as a nation/country we are well and trully f***ed ! if we continue to let the very organisations that were set up to protect us, be answerable to no one, if we continue to stay silent while politicians/councilors give away everything that our fathers/grandfathers etc fought for us to have, then where does it stop... innocent men being executed on our streets in broad daylight by the 'police'.. I'm sure i'm not the only person who can see similarities in some of the things that are happening in our country now.. and things our govt want to implement.. and nazi germany in the 40's.

Very true-Adolf just loved those immigrants! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-17 09:46:48
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 17 2009, 09:30 AM) [snapback]579153[/snapback]
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I'm only laughing as the don't have a 'dry boak' smilie.

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Don't knock it till you've tried it young man!
mortonjag 2009-02-17 09:48:20
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 17 2009, 09:12 AM) [snapback]579147[/snapback]
Just to clear things up, I'm not a nationalist. I'm an internationalist that wishes democracy for his own nation, for the people of this nation to be able to choose their own systems of government without foreign influence. Democracy and self determination are where it begins and ends for me.

Indeed-a default European!
mortonjag 2009-02-17 10:11:30
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 15 2009, 10:11 AM) [snapback]578606[/snapback]
I'll raise this issue with Stuart at our meeeting this week. Surely he can bring it to the attention of Dougie and Crawford at the next board meeting this month.

As you say, we have 100 die hard Morton fans on our buses to Holland, and I know of several more making there own way across, its a sizable chunk of our support that will no be there if it goes ahead that weekend. I have no doubt Clyde fans will be the same.

POOR show if it is that Friday/Saturday

Does he not use this forum any more? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-17 10:12:56
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 17 2009, 09:50 AM) [snapback]579165[/snapback]
Trade agreements with Europe yes, but not government by Europe.

Really!!! blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-17 10:31:50
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 17 2009, 10:25 AM) [snapback]579176[/snapback]
I don't - but here's the still of his body from the train, which was taken by official police photographer and used extensively at the inquest.

The platform video evidence "disappeared" after being taken by the Met/SO19.

Here are the accounts of some of the people in the actual carriage with De Menezes when he was shot - eyewitness material used at the inquest.

A man (later identified as a police surveillance officer) pointed at Mr De Menezes who was seated in the carriage and shouted "He is here". As Mr de Menezes stood up as per one officers request, this man pinned him back in his chair as the two other officers shot him dead.

Both firearms officers were adamant that they shouted "armed police" and one said he only decided to shoot the Brazilian when he continued to walk towards him after the warning was shouted. But six witnesses who were sat in the same carriage as Mr de Menezes said they heard no warnings. One, Anna Dunwoodie, said she was "very, very clear" that there were no shouts of "armed police" from the officers before they opened fire. Ms Dunwoodie also said Mr de Menezes never disobeyed or walked towards the officers".

It's fairly clear that the officers were under strict shoot to kill orders, as part of Operation Kratos, as opposed to normal guidelines to shoot to the lower limb or torso to incapacitate the victim. They also used hollow point (dum dum) bullets which are illegal in wartime - suggesting that the actual killing may have been security forces as opposed to standard SO19 officers.

There was no doubt amongst ANY of the passengers on the train with Mr de Menezes that he was being fully co-operative when challenged by police or that he could have been carrying anything. Initially the police said they saw wires under his heavy jacket - subsequently changed to they saw wires from his toolbag/toolbelt. Actually CCTV evidence showed he had neither, and was carrying only a newspaper.

But look - I'll let it go at that. We just agree to differ on whats OK.

By the way the same rigour should have been applied to the cases of Stanley and Waldorf to ensure the lessons learned in those cases prevented a recurrence in the future. The same justice should apply regardless race, ethnicity, sex etc etc.

TonInDublin

Everything you suggest COULD be correct.

That is the whole point.

The evidence is entirely circumstantial.
mortonjag 2009-02-17 10:37:09
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 17 2009, 10:12 AM) [snapback]579172[/snapback]
What's a pelmet? Seriously.

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mortonjag 2009-02-17 10:39:01
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 17 2009, 10:35 AM) [snapback]579180[/snapback]
Anything to back this up, or is it just another OPINION? rolleyes.gif tongue.gif

Mortonjag always has his sources darling.
mortonjag 2009-02-17 10:40:13
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 17 2009, 10:39 AM) [snapback]579184[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-02-17 10:44:15
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 17 2009, 10:42 AM) [snapback]579188[/snapback]
Working that night. mad.gif

You work? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-17 10:45:50
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 17 2009, 10:40 AM) [snapback]579186[/snapback]
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Do you use POUFFE stuff like that?
mortonjag 2009-02-17 10:47:29
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 17 2009, 10:45 AM) [snapback]579194[/snapback]
Well, everyone has to pay their way these days. wink.gif

his ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-17 10:49:44
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 13 2009, 11:22 AM) [snapback]577901[/snapback]
It sounds like its all a massive plan by the Government to get every unemployed ned in the same place at the same time to exterminate them. If its not that then it should be.

Dumb dumb bullets?
mortonjag 2009-02-17 10:50:42
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 17 2009, 10:44 AM) [snapback]579191[/snapback]
Thought it would go right over your head - not as sharp as you were, eh? blush.gif

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mortonjag 2009-02-17 10:51:48
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 17 2009, 10:47 AM) [snapback]579196[/snapback]
I'm a Head and Shoulders gal, actually. wink.gif wub.gif

On the pubes?
mortonjag 2009-02-17 10:52:54
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 17 2009, 10:49 AM) [snapback]579197[/snapback]
Not suggesting that the female of the species doesn't pay their way, are you?

Tut, tut. rolleyes.gif

His OR her
mortonjag 2009-02-17 10:54:04
QUOTE(giz @ Feb 17 2009, 10:52 AM) [snapback]579202[/snapback]
Gillian replied saying no date has been agreed so I forwarded her on the email I received from Clyde.

Who he? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-17 11:31:44
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 17 2009, 11:09 AM) [snapback]579205[/snapback]
Sorry Ernie, it's not circumstantial - these are facts gathered by people who were there. Lets assume though they had a hidden agenda.

What about the findings of The Independent Police Complaints Commission, police who investigate other police, who concluded the following as fact after interviewing all concerned

The leaked IPCC documents indicated that Menezes was seated on the train carriage when the S019 armed unit arrived. A shout of 'police' may have been made, but the suspect never really had an opportunity to respond before he was shot. The IPCC documents indicate that he was restrained by an undercover officer before being shot. Passengers who were travelling in the same carriage also contradicted police accounts, saying that they heard no warnings and that de Menezes gave no significant reaction to arrival of the policemen. One passenger said that de Menezes appeared calm even as a gun was held to his head and was clear that the police officers did not shout any warnings before shooting him.

There's nothing circumstantial about this - these are all findings based on facts garnered from interviews with not only the police themselves but the people who were sat beside him.

I don't think there's anything I can say that will ever convince you that this whole thing was an accident that didn't need to happen, OR that criminal proceedings should be brought.

So I'll stop. Not through lack of argument though - which I've enjoyed !

TonInDublin


Everything is based on recollection. It is purely circumstantial evidence, and heaven knows the various agendas of the witnesses on all sides.

An innocent man was slain by armed police.

That is a fact.
mortonjag 2009-02-17 11:41:11
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 17 2009, 11:21 AM) [snapback]579212[/snapback]
No. Some of our posters probably still watch that frequently thinking it should never have beed scrapped, 'PC gone m-a-a-a-a-a-d I tells yees'.

It was a very popular show Peter. The ladies dance beautifully-don't you think?

I got rhythm!
mortonjag 2009-02-17 11:45:39
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 17 2009, 11:37 AM) [snapback]579222[/snapback]
ACAS found the strikes to be 'baseless' and the Union's claims were, well, pish basically.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/poli...icle5748780.ece

Quelle surprise. rolleyes.gif

Another official report-like the Dennis one?
mortonjag 2009-02-17 11:49:49
QUOTE(irnbru @ Feb 17 2009, 11:33 AM) [snapback]579220[/snapback]
That may be the case but this isn't a job that takes up 40 hours a week! Is she not meant to be the commercial manager and oversee that whole side of the club?

Its all simple things that aren't being done and would maybe take a couple of hours a day to put right. If hospitality is taking too up much time then delegate jobs to someone else as she is supposed to be the manager. If this means someone has to be took on for admin 2 days a week then so be it if it improves operations and brings more money into the club.

Having said that if what your saying is true and she does only really deals with hospitality then we throwing away money. I'd assume she must be on about 25-30k a year and if we get an average of 60 people at £60 a game for 18 games thats only around 30k left over from what has been paid to her from a whole seasons hospitality. Thats not good business in my opinion.

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mortonjag 2009-02-17 12:15:34
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 17 2009, 12:01 PM) [snapback]579233[/snapback]
Disagee with first paragraph - but you'd expect nothing less.

Agree with second sentence.

TonInDublin

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mortonjag 2009-02-17 12:19:38
QUOTE(irnbru @ Feb 17 2009, 12:14 PM) [snapback]579240[/snapback]
Care to explain? For a small to medium business, which is what we are, thats an average wage for such a role.

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Well if that's an average wage, what do the lowest and highest get paid? Does my question answer yours?

Oh, and I've yet to get an answer to my question-how many full time staff does Mr Rae employ at Cappielow? (excluding players and associated staff)
mortonjag 2009-02-17 12:32:11
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 17 2009, 12:22 PM) [snapback]579248[/snapback]
So it's a tiny skirt?

Thanks.

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mortonjag 2009-02-17 13:03:31
QUOTE(irnbru @ Feb 17 2009, 12:39 PM) [snapback]579254[/snapback]
For a marketing/ commercial manager? It depends on the size of the company, how many products running what it is, etc but could go from 18k to massive amounts at the higher end of the market. I assume from Dougies reputation then the wages to staff at Cappielow will be near the lower end of the scale however.

Hence my original smileys!
mortonjag 2009-02-17 13:08:59
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 17 2009, 12:37 PM) [snapback]579252[/snapback]
No, you're spot on mate. hence the use of hollow point bullets as well - maximum damage going in, and less of a chance of a through and through.

Speaking to MJ, the exact medical terminology in these instances is cited as "death due to having nae fecking heid left".

I think it's Latin.

TonInDublin

I actually said 'You're deaf and there's nae fuckin' breid left'.
mortonjag 2009-02-17 13:11:15
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 17 2009, 12:44 PM) [snapback]579255[/snapback]
They weren't that posh, two pairs per year of Lee Jeans were provided as part of the working gear in Scott Lithgow in 1975.
More Tartan Tory union bashing.

You guys.

If it has union in its name you'll bash it. huh.gif

Indeed-I'd forewarn FUCM!
mortonjag 2009-02-17 13:13:54
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 17 2009, 01:07 PM) [snapback]579262[/snapback]
i think its totally unfair to discuss what a non footballing member of staff earns, how would you like it?

I don't! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-17 13:29:35 No chance of a conviction!
mortonjag 2009-02-17 13:33:40 We've had this daft debate before!

What's the big deal? Susie appears to be doing a good job, and I reckon she's worth a decent reward.

It's easy to access salary scales across a wide range of jobs, so why should any particular sector be immune?
mortonjag 2009-02-17 13:40:04
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 17 2009, 01:36 PM) [snapback]579277[/snapback]
seeing salary scales is one thing, discussing someones wage is different. its like me asking how much does your gps pension give you monthly

Just short of £1400! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-17 13:45:10
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 17 2009, 01:41 PM) [snapback]579283[/snapback]
seems low!

Are you attempting to discuss my pension you rogue?
mortonjag 2009-02-17 13:46:54
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 17 2009, 01:45 PM) [snapback]579285[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-02-17 16:19:57
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Feb 17 2009, 02:05 PM) [snapback]579292[/snapback]
We can also change the formation to 4-5-1 or 3-5-2 to suit available players.

I just think Dougie (with possible agreement from DI) has decided we are unlikely to go either up or down this season therefore why splash out cash during a credit crunch to make the difference between finishing say 7th or 4th in the league, when neither the team nor stadium is ready for the SPL. He appears to have tried to save some money for a change by loaning players out etc. and not replacing them (apart from Grady).

I've a feeling Dougie's plans for renovating Cappielow may coincide with a push for promotion.

I've a feeling there be more to it than that.
What about the £100k Shoogly wanted to shell out for Gowsa a couple of months back?
mortonjag 2009-02-17 16:24:15
QUOTE(cataTONic @ Feb 17 2009, 03:50 PM) [snapback]579348[/snapback]
Ye! I think its Heather the lottery Manager who does that now. My wee cousin was at the christmas party in the Supporters Club and came home with a signed ball. I believe there are 2 kids clubs now, one for older kids and one for younger kids. http://www.gmfc.net/Cappie%20Club/

Today's weans-eh! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-17 16:28:05
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 17 2009, 03:19 PM) [snapback]579331[/snapback]
Quarter to five.

TonInDublin

1.25 on yer clock!
mortonjag 2009-02-17 16:31:16
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 17 2009, 04:03 PM) [snapback]579359[/snapback]
The ones who probably sent their weans to Hutchie or Aloysius.

Don't be daft Edwards-they're all rich bastards!
mortonjag 2009-02-17 20:57:57
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 17 2009, 05:18 PM) [snapback]579394[/snapback]
He's chucking in his excuses early. tongue.gif

It'll be a walkover then! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-17 21:00:38
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 17 2009, 05:22 PM) [snapback]579395[/snapback]
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2007 called and wants its transfer rumour back. wink.gif

No darling-again you misunderstand-Shoogly tried to get Gowsa just before he went to the plastic playpen. mellow.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-17 21:07:59
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 17 2009, 05:08 PM) [snapback]579384[/snapback]
Wot? The wans that sent their weans tae the posh skools? Like you? laugh.gif

My children were very well educated at a state school, and two have honours degrees from proper Universities Mr Edwards. The academic numpty is now a millionaire and much to my surprise intends educating my granddaughter at private school! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-17 21:25:53
QUOTE(leyTON @ Feb 17 2009, 09:07 PM) [snapback]579454[/snapback]
john reid?

DOCTOR John Reid! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-17 21:28:30
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 17 2009, 09:11 PM) [snapback]579457[/snapback]
i thought that myself - your job, your old job, your band , your clothes, your dislike of the "british left", how you think east kilbride is better than greenock etc,etc,etc.......... rolleyes.gif
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Give the poor bastard a break-he's been bursting for a pish for months!
mortonjag 2009-02-17 21:31:48
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 17 2009, 07:04 PM) [snapback]579418[/snapback]
Dickhead.
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NSFW ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-17 21:36:21
QUOTE(irnbru @ Feb 17 2009, 09:27 PM) [snapback]579467[/snapback]
So I'm daft for not wanting to pay upfront at the start of the season after holidays, etc when I can't really afford it and not wanting another direct debit coming out of my bank?

You must be really well of or have no idea of the real world to have that attitude. I'm sure a few on here will take umbrage at being called daft for making decisions based on their status but obviously you know better than me.

The point about season tickets is that they SHOULD entitle you to other benefits such as first call on limited issue cup tie tickets.

We don't do cups of course!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-17 21:39:30
QUOTE(cappielowking @ Feb 17 2009, 10:53 AM) [snapback]579203[/snapback]
I've just had a bit of a crazy idea, not sure how workable it is. However I feel the benefits would be massive.
I'm not exactly sure how Reggiana's current level is comparable with ours. Given the relationship between the fans. Wouldn't it be beneficial for both clubs to have a sort of exchange scheme. Where players are loaned to Italy and we get some of their youth players on loan.

Alot has been made of differences between football cultures recently, even this week with many people debating how far England are behind Spain technically. One of the reasons why there is such this problem is that British players just don't go abroad today. Countries like France, Spain, Brazil of course, and the African nations have huge swathes of players abroad. Infact most of their best players are playing in foreign countries.

Many people have identified in recent seasons as our weakest areas being defence and striking. Couldn't it be possible for one of our players to benefit greatly from going to Italy for a while even just for a month? Learn the way the Italians defend particularly the Catenaccio. I'm not saying for Morton to play that way but wouldn't it be worth even just trying it to see the results. As for striking in football today the target man is a dying breed, what if we managed to get a young striker to go over to Italy which is a holely more defensive game? Then months later come back to us as a target man for us to lay waste to the defenses of the first division on their return.

Just was wondering what everybody thinks about this idea and its viability. Also I think its really one that if the club entertained it could be exciting. Even at the end of the day if our players didn't benefit from it I'm sure Reggiana's players would benefit from a spell in the first division. It would be a great way for us to think outside the box and give us something a bit different. I think it could definitely be an exciting prospect given that previous Reggiana youth players have included Obafemi Martins, Tafferel and Ravanelli.

A bit revolutionary but your thoughts?



One of the few times I've not read through a thread before posting, but Mr Rae has a history of being very negative about youth players from abroad-even with a significant financial incentive thrown in.

There's always time to change I suppose! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-17 21:45:32
QUOTE(irnbru @ Feb 17 2009, 09:42 PM) [snapback]579478[/snapback]
They should but they dont and thats another reason why I dont have one. I see no reason to buy one but to be called daft by a 15 year old who probably gets his paid for as I have always decided not to is a bit puzzling!!!

Don't let it get to you-I've been called daft by daft club officials posing as bona fide members of this wee massage board! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-18 07:21:30 What a pair of wankers
mortonjag 2009-02-18 07:25:30
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 17 2009, 10:05 PM) [snapback]579491[/snapback]
Source?

Mortonjag does not disclose his sources!
mortonjag 2009-02-18 07:33:25
QUOTE(Toby @ Feb 17 2009, 09:56 PM) [snapback]579487[/snapback]
The same one who, in these days that every penny's a prisoner and companies should be bursting a gut to attract (and keep) customers allegedy spoke to officials at an away match to stop two Morton fans from entering the ground unsure.gif ?

Mabawsa vachemerde was the chief culprit!

QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Feb 17 2009, 09:58 PM) [snapback]579490[/snapback]
I work part time in a paper shop and before I did the programmes I always managed to get the money saved up. I don't want to delve into your financial life but if you did manage to save the money up over the course of the year it would be cheaper in the long run.

I'm sorry if it sounded like I was having a go at you ealier but it does make a lot more financial sense to try and save the money up.

And MJ, theres no point in us rewarding season ticket holders with special cup places, only an OF game would fill Cappielow and even then there wouldn't be thousands outside wanting to get in.

The preference is for AWAY allocations TOO!!!

QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Feb 17 2009, 11:45 PM) [snapback]579520[/snapback]
They already do. But hey, don't let the facts get in the way of a good story Ernie. mad.gif


How many alibis do you have ANUS? laugh.gif

I bloody well know they DO-that was the whole point of my post-we've been

SO EFFIN USELESS

in cup competitions in the last while that they've been worthless in that respect! [attachment=5287:thumbdown.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-18 07:41:07
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 17 2009, 09:48 PM) [snapback]579485[/snapback]
Thanks doc. I still can't work this zip. laugh.gif

I always had you down as a traditionalist in sartorial matters Peter. Bertie would NEVER have used anything except fly buttons.

Furthermore I can attest to several injuries (not personal) caused by the injudicious use of zip flies!

Anyhow-always resourceful, may I suggest you feed a hose up a trouser leg, insert your worm therein, and-BLISS!
mortonjag 2009-02-18 07:47:43
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 17 2009, 10:36 PM) [snapback]579508[/snapback]
The dangers of not making it to a 'proper' university.
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Most rich bastards those days are 'socialists' who learned sense!

QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 17 2009, 10:47 PM) [snapback]579512[/snapback]
In Newlands?

Surely not?

No, no Mr Bam-we lived in humble Crookfart and the weans went to Crookfart Primary and Beastfood! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-18 07:53:42
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 18 2009, 02:18 AM) [snapback]579529[/snapback]
What are these mobile phones that you speak of , whats wrong with not being able to get contacted , ok for business people a necessary evil but people do running commentaries going round Tesco's !!!

Is there anyone else who hasn't got a mobile ??

This will no doubt cast me as a pariah
not having the latest phone .... more embarrassing than having an STD

Aye Chris-the mobile phone is certainly a 'statement'. I use one -RARELY! It's an excellent wee Nokia which I got in Tesco for a tenner.
mortonjag 2009-02-18 09:03:32 [quote name='Tom_McB' date='Feb 18 2009, 08:28 AM' post='579543']
Educational Refugees to East Ren rolleyes.gif
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Possibly-would Gryffe High have been better? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-18 09:09:18
QUOTE(Ar1tch1e @ Feb 18 2009, 07:45 AM) [snapback]579538[/snapback]
dumbarton won 2-0........grady was on last 20 mins.
morton first team on for 1st hour.
baldichini (ex gretna) was playing for us.......been training with us.

GET HIM! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-18 09:10:44
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 18 2009, 08:49 AM) [snapback]579546[/snapback]
What a daft post. Daftie. tongue.gif

If 'daft' = 'factual' it was daft! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-18 09:12:25
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 18 2009, 08:54 AM) [snapback]579547[/snapback]
Excellent. One of my rare weeks in Scotland. All the cross dressers can make it too. Common sense all round.

One hopes you will have relieved yourself by then! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-18 09:13:47
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 18 2009, 08:55 AM) [snapback]579548[/snapback]
Thanks. smile.gif
It's ok, Dazza done it for you. wink.gif

did ph34r.gif

..and that was NOT my source! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-18 09:17:22
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 18 2009, 08:42 AM) [snapback]579545[/snapback]
My suits have zips but the rather nice trousers I'm wearing today have buttons.

I was simply exaggerating to make a point.

Given the amount of time I spend in a car, that's a great idea. laugh.gif

..and if you want a wee buzz, attach it to the exhaust pipe and stick it in the driver's window as you merrily breeze along! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-18 09:30:38
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Feb 18 2009, 09:27 AM) [snapback]579556[/snapback]
never been in the resteraunt, but it has a reputation as a place to get a great ham shank.

Heard the Manager's PA was fired last week for inappropriate behaviour with a commis chef.

The Manager said 'You were instructed to sack the cook'. blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-18 10:04:26 Who's the artist? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-18 10:34:07
QUOTE(gmfc_boyo @ Feb 18 2009, 10:18 AM) [snapback]579564[/snapback]
Fingers crossed for this one! Could give us a much needed bit of flair

Yip-he would be the first proper winger for ages. Spoonsy's hit rate would possibly double.
mortonjag 2009-02-18 10:37:48
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 18 2009, 10:34 AM) [snapback]579568[/snapback]
Go easy on him. If he can't get his pants off then that means no frantic meat beating, hence the hostility.

Don't bet on it-his pockets are like his arguments! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-18 10:40:24
QUOTE(Mac_with_cheese @ Feb 18 2009, 10:37 AM) [snapback]579571[/snapback]
If you had the option of one free assassination who would you target on this board, and why him or her ? ph34r.gif

Real hoops because he's always calling me names! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-18 11:16:24
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Feb 18 2009, 10:38 AM) [snapback]579572[/snapback]
Am I missing something about Baldacchino? He's barely played any football above second division standard, and has been playing in a diddy league recently. I was never even that impressed when he played against us, and that was at a lower standard.

All that is required of him is to get up the wing and sling over decent crosses-that he CAN do.

QUOTE(Madton @ Feb 18 2009, 10:54 AM) [snapback]579581[/snapback]
Agree that hes not been seen at a decent level for awhile but when he was on form for gretna, he used to run riot against us. Remember the 4-1 game down there, he was the best player on the park.

If hes fit and impresses enough then am with the Jag, sign him up until the end of the season, give him a chance to see what he can do.

Took the total piss out of JM's 'full backs'!
mortonjag 2009-02-18 11:19:45
QUOTE(Mac_with_cheese @ Feb 18 2009, 11:07 AM) [snapback]579585[/snapback]
so Jade receives 1million pound for selling the right to her wedding to OK magazine and living TV, thats fair enough she is just trying to ensure her families financial future once shes gone.

The real question is though do you think Shilpa Shettyis more likely to attend the Funeral or wedding? huh.gif

Depends which comes first! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-18 11:23:30
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Feb 18 2009, 11:22 AM) [snapback]579589[/snapback]
Who is this Jade Goody? is she the illegitimate love child of Graham Garden and Tim Brooke Taylor, I may have to google her.

Awaits the Chavalanche of derssion.

Go prepared! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-18 11:47:29
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 18 2009, 11:37 AM) [snapback]579595[/snapback]
Can he cross a ball properly?

AYE!

If he was at Cappielow last night he can't be in Oz surely? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-18 11:56:13
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 18 2009, 11:53 AM) [snapback]579609[/snapback]
I think it would have been nicer if the thread was about who you'd like to give a big old bear hug to. blush.gif

Killing someone's not nice. dry.gif

...until you get the feel of it! laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-18 11:59:13
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 18 2009, 11:54 AM) [snapback]579610[/snapback]
If he signs and turns out useless and unable to cross the ball, we'll all laugh at the Jag for being wrong. laugh.gif

Since he has such a keen eye for a player...

Fuck OFF! wub.gif

Baldacchino won most Man of the Matches, Goal of the Season and had a UEFA Cup goal on his way up the divisions. An impressive display against Dunfermline in the Scottish Cup in front of Celtic manager Gordon Strachan earned Baldacchino rave reviews. Hibs, Motherwell and Celtic all had regular checks on Baldacchino.

From Wiki!
mortonjag 2009-02-18 12:01:02
QUOTE(EBu @ Feb 18 2009, 11:48 AM) [snapback]579605[/snapback]
I was sceptical when all this first came out, but now it seems appartent that she is doing 2 things:

1. Making sure her children are looked after once she is gone.

2. Trying to raise awareness of cervical cancer.

I'm not a fan of the woman, but I really think she deserves a hell of a lot of praise for what she's been doing in the past few weeks.

Apparently in the past few weeks more women than ever have had tests for cervical cancer, and that cannot be a bad thing in my book.

Indeed though it would be more apt and honest if she was warning against juvenile promiscuity/unprotected sex I'd guess!
mortonjag 2009-02-18 12:10:39
QUOTE(Thrax @ Feb 18 2009, 11:42 AM) [snapback]579598[/snapback]
laugh.gif thats class. Guy looks like a dick anyways. Fkin Man u fans laugh.gif

The marriage was obviously fucked anyway.

I wonder if the Scousers sent him a link to 'You'll never wank alone'!
mortonjag 2009-02-18 12:14:18 What We Do For Ourselves Dies With Us.
What We Do For Others Is, And Remains, Immortal.

Dream As If You'll Live Forever, Live As If You'll Die Today smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-18 12:16:37
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 18 2009, 12:10 PM) [snapback]579622[/snapback]
Glad to hear he can cross a ball. Sign him now.

EXACTLY!
mortonjag 2009-02-18 12:18:25
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 18 2009, 12:14 PM) [snapback]579625[/snapback]
This guy was a regular in my bar in Bridge of Allan lol , Him and his misus are a strange couple indeed

link? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-18 13:44:20
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Feb 18 2009, 12:24 PM) [snapback]579631[/snapback]
Why sign a winger when all we do is lump balls up the park and play so narrow through the middle?

Are you actually asking a serious question? unsure.gif

QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 18 2009, 12:30 PM) [snapback]579633[/snapback]
Why did no one else ever sign him if he was that good?

Ask Ryan! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-18 13:48:26
QUOTE(EBu @ Feb 18 2009, 12:27 PM) [snapback]579632[/snapback]
How is the collection in the cellar getting on anyway? Any more recent additions?

To be honest I've not been down since the dog arrived-which reminds me-there's one I left with the head still on! Toodle pip! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-18 13:50:14
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 18 2009, 01:27 PM) [snapback]579642[/snapback]
She took down his legal briefs and he raised a point of order; eventually they got their just desserts (with cream, if she was any good!).

It reminds me of the cover of one of the "Herald Diary" books, showing a picture of a chalkboard outside a restaurant. The board said "FREE ORGASM WITH EVERY MEAL" ,
then in brackets and in much smaller letters below it said "orgasm is on a self-service basis only"....... laugh.gif

What a let down.
mortonjag 2009-02-18 13:56:25
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 18 2009, 01:49 PM) [snapback]579654[/snapback]
So Douglas, you're using as a source a site that has been described as less than useless by the man who created it? Tsk tsk. rolleyes.gif

The source was quoting other sources Peter-just a means to an end-like your hosepipe!
mortonjag 2009-02-18 14:00:55
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 18 2009, 01:56 PM) [snapback]579657[/snapback]
aye - but they were only letting themselves down.

And to book a table they had to leave a deposit.......

I doubt if anybody came twice.
mortonjag 2009-02-18 14:25:03
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 18 2009, 02:14 PM) [snapback]579666[/snapback]
I met Grady and McManus after the game. They were too thirsty to talk to me though.

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-18 14:55:39
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 18 2009, 02:40 PM) [snapback]579677[/snapback]
When Stuart McCluskey left Morton the rumour was that he had joined the Royal Navy so that the world could see him. laugh.gif

When he was already enlisted in the Household Cavalry and had been taking us for a ride since he arrived.
mortonjag 2009-02-18 15:06:29
QUOTE(dazed @ Feb 18 2009, 03:01 PM) [snapback]579686[/snapback]
Yes that seems about right! laugh.gif

[attachment=5289:sturg.jpg]

HMM! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-18 15:16:11
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Feb 18 2009, 03:05 PM) [snapback]579689[/snapback]
My attendance is absolutely shocking for the last few seasons, due to starting on a 3 on 3 off conti shift pattern which annihalates weekends every few weeks sad.gif

Last season was first time I hadn't had a season ticket since early nineties I think.

I achieved 100 percent attendance home and away a couple of times late nineties, mid I think. Long time ago smile.gif

It's certainly a fall from grace from someone who couldn't even comprehend missing a home game 5 years ago, but c'est la vie. my priorities have changed in both work and life but total kudos to the other guys who go every week. Amazing.

Special shout to Danny Goodwin, he has some mental record as well. He was going to pre season games in FINLAND!!! to keep it up!
John Gisbey and Kenni Lee have impressive attendance also. Sure, mind Giz changed his holidays and lost his deposit once cos the RC Final got rearranged or something!?!?! Immense. smile.gif

I completely understand. I was doing four overnight (thirteen hour) shifts Fri-Mon for six years and saw virtually nothing of the Ton.
mortonjag 2009-02-18 15:20:49
QUOTE(dazed @ Feb 18 2009, 03:03 PM) [snapback]579687[/snapback]
DOCTOR of what????? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif did he actually earn that title(like your good self) or did he get it in a christmas cracker???

He is the proud possessor of a doctorate from Stirling University!


He attended the University of Stirling, gaining a BA in history and a Ph.D. in economic history, with a thesis on the slave trade written as a critique of the Marxist model of historical change, entitled Warrior Aristocrats In Crisis: the political effects of the transition from the slave trade to palm oil commerce in the nineteenth century Kingdom of Dahomey.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-18 15:30:24
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 18 2009, 03:27 PM) [snapback]579696[/snapback]
I reckon it's more likely that good players (maybe better put, good players at value for money) just weren't available.

I reckon Mr Rae had £100k available for Gowsa and zilch for sheep lips! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-18 15:32:09
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Feb 18 2009, 03:28 PM) [snapback]579697[/snapback]
Is McCluskey not at the fifth level of Australian football? That sounds promising. laugh.gif
Reliable.

It is an useful guide. If you are able to correct any inaccurate information why not do so?
mortonjag 2009-02-18 15:39:06
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 18 2009, 03:36 PM) [snapback]579700[/snapback]
No, she will die young, afraid and a mother.

TonInDublin

What will she be afraid of-apart from death?
mortonjag 2009-02-18 15:40:36
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Feb 18 2009, 03:37 PM) [snapback]579701[/snapback]
You could add that he only scored 2 goals in 2 seasons. Big teams look at all sorts of players, means very little, especially since no-one made a move for him.

He's a talented player IMO, but my reservation would be that there has to be a reason that he has never made it at this level, and when he was available for loan last season Ayr got him.

Well why don't you correct it on Wiki?

The fact remains that the boy is an able winger and we currently have none.
mortonjag 2009-02-18 16:18:43
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 18 2009, 04:16 PM) [snapback]579714[/snapback]
Sorry lads - can't be arsed typing another answer - gis a minute and I'll search for an old one I've done on here. Stay tuned.

TonInDublin

Yer clock's broke mister!
mortonjag 2009-02-18 17:25:18
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Feb 18 2009, 04:29 PM) [snapback]579722[/snapback]
so many replies and no Mortonjag!? blink.gif

f*** it, mortonjag ph34r.gif

Did you mean fuck it? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-18 19:15:22
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Feb 18 2009, 07:02 PM) [snapback]579758[/snapback]
A contract until the end of the season would be no bad thing as he was a good player at second division level a few seasons ago. Like most on here, I have not seen him play a game since we played against Gretna in the 2nd division (when he and Jim had a right good battle), but I think he might be worth a contract until the end of the season. Apart from anything else, it would give us a bit of cover should Jim or Kev get injured/suspended.

Nobody's mentioned the fact that the boy's only 28. Plenty of time to re-charge the batteries I'd guess.
mortonjag 2009-02-18 19:18:27
QUOTE(Mac_with_cheese @ Feb 18 2009, 05:27 PM) [snapback]579744[/snapback]
Vikington he would get his mad.gif

A bit cruel to target innocent weans! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-18 19:20:49
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 18 2009, 05:31 PM) [snapback]579745[/snapback]
Possibly-would Gryffe High have been better? unsure.gif
Gryffe does well. The best Results in Renfrewshire for 5 Highers passed.
Statistical Clicky

Better than E'wood's 5 Highers
Clicky.

Interesting!
mortonjag 2009-02-18 19:21:53
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 18 2009, 06:06 PM) [snapback]579749[/snapback]
I'm 10 stone. Oh for the days you were 10 stone, eh!

stones!
mortonjag 2009-02-18 19:33:34
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 18 2009, 07:31 PM) [snapback]579766[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDTen pebble!
mortonjag 2009-02-18 19:37:50
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 18 2009, 07:30 PM) [snapback]579765[/snapback]
Various....need some variety for that kind of night out wink.gif

'Officer I've been graped'.

'You mean raped Madam'!

'Officer there was a bunch of them'. [attachment=5290:phew.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-18 19:39:58
QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Feb 18 2009, 07:05 PM) [snapback]579759[/snapback]
Actually I thought this had been answered...

Maybe you'd like to volunteer to become our membership secretary?

Do you not already have a membership secretary?
mortonjag 2009-02-18 19:48:27
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Feb 18 2009, 03:58 PM) [snapback]579710[/snapback]
I think that for the first few weeks of season tickets going on sale, the club should offer, say, 10% if buying the new strip at the same time - presuming, of course, that for once they have the foresight to get the strips on sale asap. Also, maybe even a prize draw for a handful of hospitality packages at games that might be slightly less popular.

It's also perfectly understandable not to buy a season ticket, I think mines worked out at a saving of only 3 games. I can pretty much guarantee I won't miss 3 Saturday's over a season, but I'm probably in a minority there. If there had been a few more cancellations, I'd have missed more than the one midweek game that I already have.

That gamble is, I think, why there should be a little bit of extra benefit to people putting their money in at the start of the season, but it doesn't make you any better or bigger a fan - it just means you happen to have the money at the time and your circumstances suit.

I agree entirely! It's commercially daft that those who are willing to put their money 'up front' and give the club the immediate use of it, get barely any advantage over the course of the season.

I believe it's a relic of the Rae attitude that the fans owe him something, and it needs sorted.
mortonjag 2009-02-18 19:55:58 We take so many things for granted, not least the fact that women are 'different' but have you ever paused to think what it must be like to be one of the opposite sex?

Bras, knickers, tights (or stockings [attachment=5291:tongue_smilie.gif]), to say nothing of tampons, swallowing a pill every morning or woe betide, and that cornucopia of cosmetics that goes along with being XX! Then there's hair-what would they do without their hair?

I've long since decided that it must be quite difficult to be a woman, and that's even before you're expected to lie on your back with your legs wide open while some drunken slob shags you like a depraved dug! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-18 20:02:26
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 18 2009, 07:54 PM) [snapback]579772[/snapback]
I just think the whole media circus is an absolute parody of itself . I blame the idiots who buy into this celebrity magazine guff .

Ok no one would wish her this short life but it is an everyday occurance and many families have to go through this without the financial incentive .

This woman hit the limelight because she was ignorant and was a figure of ridicule then the bullying rascist element which was then lambasted and the past celebrated poor educational standards were blamed for this attitude .

Now its the tragedy of her death that surrounds the media feeding frenzy .

Bang on the money Chris. The fact that she is apparently dying from cervical cancer does not take away from her past, and as you say there are thousands of people in the same boat at this very minute-people who have NOT thrown caution to the wind in terms of their early sexual exploits!

And before some smart arse asks how I know she brought this on herself, I don't, but there is a 99% probability that she did.
mortonjag 2009-02-19 06:52:20 So the Dutch guy gets barred despite having legitimate credentials and a legitimate opinion, while this scumbag is still alive and kicking on our shores. Why don't the authorities make up for shooting Dennis de Menezes by flushing away this piece of human shit?

His preaching may have caused de Menezes death
mortonjag 2009-02-19 07:01:51
QUOTE(cappielowking @ Feb 18 2009, 11:54 PM) [snapback]579859[/snapback]
Thanks for supporting my idea. I definitely think both clubs would benefit from the suitation. Everyone needs a more global attitude to football nowadays and we can move our game forward for the better by fully realising this.

...and Rae chucked away the chance of £20,000 and a 'no ties' extended look at Aussie youth players without even informing JM of the offer!

I sense, however, that he has slightly relinquished some power in the last while.
mortonjag 2009-02-19 07:06:34 I'm getting pissed off with the negativity boys scarting about for statistics. Use your phucking memories or if you haven't seen the boy play--


SHUT IT



He's light years ahead of anything at Cappielow when it comes to wing play, and that's what we lack! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-19 07:10:03
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Feb 18 2009, 09:58 PM) [snapback]579836[/snapback]
I'm happy being a ,man but it's nice to get in touch with my feminine side too, the softness of the silk panties on my skin, the joy of putting on my stockings and stillettos... blush.gif

Removing the mascara from under your fingernails with a screwdriver!
mortonjag 2009-02-19 07:11:31
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Feb 18 2009, 10:09 PM) [snapback]579838[/snapback]
There's been no shortage of f*** ups in my life but I do believe the bad times are just part of the learning process and can't be avoided. Without those how would we know how sweet the good times are? I couldn't wait to get out of school but now find myself back at college and enjoying it, even getting a handle on the maths!

And some young thing getting on your handle? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-19 07:17:04
QUOTE(HamCam @ Feb 18 2009, 09:55 PM) [snapback]579834[/snapback]
One difference just now is that Saab's are being heavily discounted to shift stock so offer relatively good value. Still not sufficient to encourage me to buy one.

I'd suggest there's a break even point-especially if you like a wee bit of performance. Even the smaller engined turbo Aero models are flying machines. Saab of course were pioneers of turbocharging. Now that they're owned by GM who are in a financial mess, you may well be able to grab a bargain!

I bought mine because I wanted a highly powered four seater cabrio at a competitive price, and I've had no regrets. Saab were also pioneers of decent 'rag top' motors.
mortonjag 2009-02-19 07:22:00


QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 18 2009, 09:16 PM) [snapback]579815[/snapback]
Oh, alright then:
Indeed. He's completely shite!
mad.gif


That'll be the opinion of an eighteen year old wean then! [attachment=5292:nono.gif]

BTW will you be changing to Baldacchino's Bollocks?
mortonjag 2009-02-19 07:36:10
QUOTE(SramTon @ Feb 18 2009, 08:48 PM) [snapback]579796[/snapback]
How can doctors actually tell that a serial killer is cured?

When he has no pulse! laugh.gif

HOWEVER!

Sutcliffe has spent the last 20 years of his 28 in custody in Broadmoor, after he was finally correctly diagnosed as suffering from paranoid schizophrenia-something the trial judge refused to accept because it would have implied diminished responsibility.

He is almost 63 years of age, and this recent report merely labels him as 'low risk' indicating that he MAY be moved to a less secure unit with a possibility of ultimately being released.

Now I put it to you that Schizophrenia is a well recognised illness which IS treatable.


THAT IS ALL! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-19 07:39:26
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 18 2009, 09:00 PM) [snapback]579803[/snapback]
laugh.gif No but my butler does.

I was in the news mongers in Manchester tonight buying The Independent when I noticed it.

You were in the fishmongers and they wrapped your Finnan Haddie in it-more like ! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-19 07:41:49
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 18 2009, 09:19 PM) [snapback]579816[/snapback]
piehutt - would rather main him and let him suffer, though.

He suffers every day of his life the wee soul. Sweet virginity! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-19 07:46:25 HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA


Fill yer boots the lot of yese-I'm out of this and into the cellar to dodge the fatwah. [attachment=5293:sneaky.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-19 07:52:42
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 19 2009, 01:06 AM) [snapback]579877[/snapback]
Have some compassion for feck's sake, a young woman is dying. Much, much worse than her live to their dotage and die in a painless sleep. Most of us have 'thrown caution to the wind' from time to time and escaped any deathly consequences by good fortune alone. 'Let he who is without sin..................'.

Don't you dare to pre-judge me Edwards! ph34r.gif

I can empathise with her and still state categorically that she was almost certainly the architect of her early demise.

If some daft cunt insists on making a three minute plunge to his death despite contrary advice, should we all indulge in a minute's silence applause while the clot zooms earthwards? mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-19 07:58:00
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 19 2009, 07:11 AM) [snapback]579893[/snapback]
Dont think there are any unmanned ones in this area now, hot at south street is ok, seen a few men using that one, its not just for women, i mean look at tommy sheridan tongue.gif

Derek McInnes, Gordon Smith--of course they just do it for treatment of their acne.

Mind you Smith's proved to be an overpaid useless PLOOK!.

QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Feb 19 2009, 07:17 AM) [snapback]579895[/snapback]
White is beautiful.

ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-19 08:57:06
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 19 2009, 08:44 AM) [snapback]579913[/snapback]
He didn't inform me either. What are you talking about?

I'm talking about what I just stated-can you not bloody well read? Are you going to call me a liar?

Shoogly knows it's true as do certain members of his staff-that'll do for me! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-19 08:59:47
QUOTE(wanderton @ Feb 19 2009, 07:56 AM) [snapback]579905[/snapback]
My son and his pals read this board and while im sure they do swear amongst themselves i would rather they didnt read it on here mortonjag thank you.

I think we've been here before!

THERE I've edited it for your son and his pals, and any other innocents whom happen to have wanderton. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-19 09:01:32
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 19 2009, 07:47 AM) [snapback]579902[/snapback]
I have no idea what you're talking about. And not for the first time. blink.gif

You are quite simple, Simon Peter! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-19 09:03:24
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 19 2009, 07:48 AM) [snapback]579903[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDShut it!
mortonjag 2009-02-19 09:04:18
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 19 2009, 08:29 AM) [snapback]579909[/snapback]
SmithsTON. He's a walloper.

Has anybody actually MET Anus?
mortonjag 2009-02-19 09:05:44
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 19 2009, 08:28 AM) [snapback]579908[/snapback]
I'll leave the 'pre - judging' to you. biggrin.gif

Just as it should be! [attachment=5294:sneaky.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-19 09:30:17
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 19 2009, 09:19 AM) [snapback]579923[/snapback]
I'm starting wonder if you're really just winding us all up.

Ryan Harding is a good footballer? Chris Smith is a good footballer? Baldachino is lightyears ahead of McAlister and Finlayson despite not playing more than a handful of games above 2nd division (where our current wingers were standouts too)?

I'm afraid I'm unconvinced. There must be a reason the guy hasn't been picked up by a better team than Ayr United.

They were just as useless as wingers then as they are now! Harding IS a good footballer, and wee Baldy is a good winger. mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-19 09:33:00
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 19 2009, 09:08 AM) [snapback]579921[/snapback]
Who knows? Maybe he's an alias. I say he's really Mabawsa Ritchie AKA Spot Ton AKA Russell's Muscles.

Antoine Vachemerde and Measles are not one and the same!

Russell's muscles won't be back! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-19 09:36:52
QUOTE(irnbru @ Feb 19 2009, 09:32 AM) [snapback]579926[/snapback]
I'd agree harding is a good footballer - just not as good as he thinks and thats his downfall!!

I never had Hardy down as a bighead-quite the opposite in fact. I reckon his long term injury and dreadful drop in confidence have been the problem. I fully expect to see him playing at First Division, or even SPL level before his career's over.
mortonjag 2009-02-19 09:42:21
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 19 2009, 09:31 AM) [snapback]579925[/snapback]
Aye, see these folk who preach extermination ! biggrin.gif

Have you ever had an infestation of field mice Mr Edwards? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-19 09:45:27
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Feb 19 2009, 09:36 AM) [snapback]579928[/snapback]
this is spot on... the main problem here is not that some young women is dying, or trying to milk her own death to make as much money as possible, the problem is that this and most/all other illness have been here a very long time, and there are countless thousands of people out there who devote a lifetime to raising awareness of these illness and raising much needed money for charities related to them.. how should these people feel now..? Jade goody hasnt raised awareness of cervical cancer... she hasnt done anything special.... she is dying of a terrible illness, and I feel sorry for her, but I shouldnt have to have her death played out in my life by the media... and before someone says 'well dont buy the papers then'.. why shouldnt I ? I want to read the news etc.. I want the media to be more responsible to the feelings and morals of society.. and most of us dont want to be part of a dying strangers journey.

I'd like to add that if Ms. Goody had attended for regular cervical screening from-say three years after her first sexual liaison-she'd not be in her current sad predicament.
mortonjag 2009-02-19 09:46:50
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 19 2009, 09:40 AM) [snapback]579930[/snapback]
What's the difference between "free unlimited internet" and "web and walk".

And what's this Friends and Family thing?

I've been offered a £30 a month T-mobile plan on an upgrade which has I think £140 worth of calls/texts, more than enough for me and includes unlimited internet access - is that a good deal or is there something cheaper for which I need to join the masons or know the boss's sister?

Tesco!
mortonjag 2009-02-19 10:02:13
QUOTE(cappielowking @ Feb 19 2009, 09:55 AM) [snapback]579939[/snapback]
Glad to see my thread has spawned possible conspiracy theories haha!

There was no conspiracy! How can one man's actions be so construed? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-19 10:05:38
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Feb 19 2009, 09:47 AM) [snapback]579935[/snapback]
I don't see that happening as his concentration levels are no-where near what is required even at first division level, hence why he didn't make it at Hibs or Livvi in the SPL. My feeling is he tries to give the impression of being composed on the ball, when in fact 9 times out of 10 he just lauches it up the park.

In the second division we were attacking home and away which gave Harding the chance to impersonate Rio Ferdinand. In fact Ryan always looks very calm and assured as he hits a 60 yard punt right out for a goal kick.

He will come good!

QUOTE(irnbru @ Feb 19 2009, 09:49 AM) [snapback]579938[/snapback]
He definetly thinks he is a much better player than he is - see his: constant blaming of others for mistakes; wanting to take every throw in; long 'passes' when a simple ball is an easier option (he is can be good at these but thinks hes so good that he wont take other options); refusal to clear his lines and instead wanting to beat man; not coming out along with rest of defence to play the offside trap (even when getting screamed at) as evidence of his inflated opinion of himself.

Confidence in a player can be a good thing but not when it makes youthink you can stroll through games when you clearly cant. For what its worth I think he could play at a higher level but not until he chooses to accept he needs to work at it.

He will come good!!

QUOTE(Patg @ Feb 19 2009, 09:55 AM) [snapback]579940[/snapback]
Ryan wwas feeling reaction to the injury after most games and sometimes couldnt train till the Wednesday or the Thursday and specialists have only recently diagnosed the problem is it not a thing thats happens to males Mortonjag may know more and explain to us ....

He has a year of his contract to go and hopes be fit after an op to rectify the problem and be raring to go in pre season and back playing next season ...

I would like wish big man speedy recovery and hope see you back playing soon ...

Can still remember the feeling when he scored winner against Hibs ...

Get well soon Harry...

Pat G ....

Time will tell-he's a good footballer, no matter what the saboteurs care to think!
mortonjag 2009-02-19 10:09:57
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 19 2009, 09:41 AM) [snapback]579931[/snapback]
Maybe they could just get a ferry across, or build a tunnel.

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mortonjag 2009-02-19 10:13:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 19 2009, 09:48 AM) [snapback]579937[/snapback]
Not field mice but house mice, well maybe, depends on how many constitute an infestation. Human beings inhabit my house though, they don't infest it.

we are all God's animals
mortonjag 2009-02-19 10:51:55
QUOTE(cappielowking @ Feb 19 2009, 10:35 AM) [snapback]579949[/snapback]
Like the true communists in 1961 did I want to see the body of Stalin here!

Since when was Greenock known as Shooglygrad?
mortonjag 2009-02-19 10:53:41
QUOTE(simplyton @ Feb 19 2009, 10:24 AM) [snapback]579948[/snapback]
(Stolen from P&B)

If you could bring back any ex-player (at the peak of their Ton career) to play in the current team who would it be & why?
Obviously Ritchie would be a big shout but 1. I never saw him play in the flesh (1st game at Cappielow 85) & 2. Would he get a place in our team?

I would go for Janne to play in a midfield diamond with Jenkins in front of him supporting a front 2 - Think not only his skill and calm head but also the ability to organise the team would be greatly beneficial.

Others considered were Mcinnes (driving force in midfield) or Super Ro (Would still suffer like Spoonsy etc with lack of supply)


Of players I did not see-Jimmy Cowan-a legend in goals!

Otherwise big Andy.
mortonjag 2009-02-19 10:58:59
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 19 2009, 10:20 AM) [snapback]579947[/snapback]
And sometimes I worry about you (but not often and not for very long). tongue.gif

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No need to Mr E, I love watching innocent little children doing innocent little things-or little lambs gamboling in the Spingtime sunshine. I've spent ages watching an earthworm go about its humble business too and not felt my time was wasted-before cutting it in half to make it easier for the little birds twittering in the trees! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-19 11:01:34
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 19 2009, 10:55 AM) [snapback]579957[/snapback]
Don't worry about it, it's trendy now a days
There's more and more gaylords every day tongue.gif

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Don't be daft-POUFFES are just becoming more accepted-as should be!
mortonjag 2009-02-19 11:10:47
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Feb 19 2009, 10:56 AM) [snapback]579958[/snapback]
I assume that was (at least partially) directed at me.

Believe it or not, I've actually seen Baldacchino play several times, I was only drawing attention to the fact that he wasn't particularly experienced at this level.

One thing that no one has mentioned is the reason he hasn't played much above second division level was due to a persistent knee ligament problem requiring three operations.

Why would it have been directed at you? If you've seen him play you know he can at least get up the wing and sling over decent crosses. That would be a huge advantage to our current squad.
mortonjag 2009-02-19 11:15:17
QUOTE(Magic Mathie @ Feb 19 2009, 11:00 AM) [snapback]579960[/snapback]
No, I have had no definite confirmation that my annual membership has been received.

Last I heard was 09/12/08 was that the Trust couldn't find my payment even though I had already provided details of when the payment was made (it's standing order aswell so shouldn't be that difficult).

It's just that last year was the second year in a row this happened and I'm betting that 2009 will be the third.

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It's slightly worrying that they 'thought it had been dealt with' after so long when it hadn't and you had reminded them specifically!

I'd have much preferred-'I'll deal with this immediately and offer my apologies for any convenience'!

HEY-maybe they will ask Jaggy to become their Secy-will I get to wear my stilettos and rose tints?
mortonjag 2009-02-19 11:17:15 Awa an' rattle yer baws in a tin can!
mortonjag 2009-02-19 11:20:27
QUOTE(irnbru @ Feb 19 2009, 11:13 AM) [snapback]579969[/snapback]
I'm almost certain he meant that if a player such as Lindberg came back he would compliment Jenkins and make him a better player. The thread is meant to be about bringing one old player into the team after all so it makes sense to me.
Thats nonsense - his awareness, finishing and work outside the box were all great. Even when he played in a testimonial a few years ago (Derek Collins I think) you could tell the guy was class.

I don't know why I missed out on strikers until Ro was mentioned. Allan McGraw was well ahead of him as was wee Joe Harper. In fact I'd probably alter my opinion and replace Andy with McGraw!
mortonjag 2009-02-19 11:26:12
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Feb 19 2009, 11:23 AM) [snapback]579976[/snapback]
I don't recall anyone else "scarting about" for statistics (apart from someone who quoted from Wiki...). smile.gif

I agree with your point though, if he can get back to something like his pre-December 2005 form, he's at least worth a contract until the end of the season.

Article about Baldacchino's injury

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mortonjag 2009-02-19 11:29:06
QUOTE(monyou @ Feb 19 2009, 11:26 AM) [snapback]579980[/snapback]
Gamboling thread for this p*sh wink.gif

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mortonjag 2009-02-19 11:33:27
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 19 2009, 11:31 AM) [snapback]579983[/snapback]
You're wriggling away from the argument.

I'll slug it out with anybody!
mortonjag 2009-02-19 11:40:20
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Feb 19 2009, 11:32 AM) [snapback]579984[/snapback]
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laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

OOPS-it WAS YOU!


While I think Baldacchino is worth a look, I was surprised to find out that he only made 4 sub appearances at 1st division level. His record in the UK (league games only) is as follows (from P&B):




Ryan BALDACCHINO
Born: 13/1/81, LEICESTER
Ht: 5-10
Wt: 10-08
Position: Midfield

1998-99: Blackburn Rovers (-)
1999-00: Blackburn Rovers (-)
2000-01: Blackburn Rovers (-)
2000-01: Bolton Wanderers (-)
2001-02: Bolton Wanderers (-)
2002-03: Carlisle United (11Starts 11sub)
2003-04: Carlisle United (0starts 1sub)
2003-04: Gretna - 3rd division (33starts/4goals)
2004-05: Gretna - 3rd division (29starts/9goals)
2005-06: Gretna - 2nd division (19starts 2sub/1goal)
2006-07: Gretna - 1st division (0 starts 4 sub)
2007-08: Gretna - SPL (4 starts 4 sub)
2007-08: Ayr United - 2nd division (4 starts)

Looks like his 40 yard lob was his only league goal that season.



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mortonjag 2009-02-19 11:59:00
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Feb 19 2009, 11:41 AM) [snapback]579990[/snapback]
I accept your apology smile.gif

Mortonjag does not apologise!
mortonjag 2009-02-19 12:01:22 I think he's antagonised Shoogly and expect to see a new Manager installed before the start of next season! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-19 12:03:54
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 19 2009, 11:38 AM) [snapback]579988[/snapback]
laugh.gif Ok then. Perhaps the thread should be retitled as '1001 ways to murder a mental mullah'.

Drop him in a large vat of 1001!


“It’s all dirt and dust,
But don’t you get fussed,
The answer is easily found,
One Thousand and One
Cleans a big, big carpet
For less than half a crown! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-19 12:05:45 Does Golden Casket have an entry? If so I DO hope it's Fudgy Wudgys and NOT those horrid little Millions.
mortonjag 2009-02-19 12:56:11
QUOTE(Cawston @ Feb 19 2009, 12:11 PM) [snapback]580003[/snapback]
Bobby Thompson

The best midfielder at Scappa in 30 years.

But not in 50!
mortonjag 2009-02-19 12:57:49
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 19 2009, 12:43 PM) [snapback]580008[/snapback]
This could apply to any of a number of threads or any topic at all, but can we just align amongst ourselves ....

1) Just because something doesn't have a link doesn't make it a lie or invalid
2) Just because it does have a link doesn't make it fecking true

Whatever happened to individual thought ?

TonInDublin

LINK? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-19 13:07:22
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 19 2009, 01:00 PM) [snapback]580018[/snapback]
you certainly are sir !

Badda-bing, badda-boom.

TonInDublin

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Just read and obey the instructions below Sir-I'm sure you'll be more that satisfied!

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mortonjag 2009-02-19 13:17:02
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Feb 19 2009, 01:07 PM) [snapback]580022[/snapback]
I think DI had a massive job on his hands in keeping us up last season, and dealing with the unbalanced squad he inherited, especially with the demise of Gretna.

He then had to start bringing his own players in and building for this season, something he apparently had no experience in as Holdsworth did the hiring and firing at Gretna, and before that Alexander. He also identified a need to strengthen the side and took us from the most lightweight side in the league (or possibly Scotland) to one of the most physical. Then after a bad start he was under pressure to get two wins to save his job, which he did. Since then he has improved our consistency and certainly made Cappielow a difficult place to pick up points again.

I think during the transfer window he was probably under pressure from Douglas Rae to redress the balance books after mixed success with the pre-season signings. To turn things round with the squad he inherited must be a lengthy and costly task, and he’s starting to get somewhere though there’s a lot of work to be done and the next stage is surely acquiring some more creative players.

Finally I would say he appears to have stood up to Douglas Rae more than his predecessors, as Dougie wanted Stevenson to stay and DI also expressed the point that some players needed to improve their attitude. My impression is that DI is only in his early stages of what he wants to achieve at Cappielow, and there is cause for optimism if and when he is given the resources to take us to the next level.


I believe he's a crap man manager who is universally despised by the squad, whom he antagonises even on match days with his constant bellowing like some sex starved bull.

It seems that he is also unable to take criticism-warrant the umpteen excuses and fall guys since his arrival-particularly Jon Newby-that, allied to his famous 'big mouth' hasn't endeared him behind the scenes.

Finally, he appears to be a tactical cretin who thinks that the best form of defence is deeper defence and that one point gained is a P45 postponed!

Having said all that, it's great to see that we're challenging for a top three spot so early in his career. Experienced managers like Derek McInnes-take note! ph34r.gif


mortonjag 2009-02-19 13:20:43
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Feb 19 2009, 01:10 PM) [snapback]580023[/snapback]
People sayin Ritchie is a really obvious one, and he's billed by most as the best player to have ever played for us (before my time so that's why I'm keeping my opinions to myself). Does anyone think, however, that his style might not fit into modern 21st Century football? In the days of mega-fit players and sports science, would he be a player that wouldn't make the grade? I can't imagine too many managers nowadays would tolerate an over-weight and lazy striker in their team for too long.

Thoughts?

Aye!

McGraw, on the other hand would have a field day with his lightning fast reflexes and the modern bendier ball. He's still VERY much underrated.
mortonjag 2009-02-19 13:23:22
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 19 2009, 01:21 PM) [snapback]580030[/snapback]
Prefer Lawsons myself!

Do they go up down a treat?
mortonjag 2009-02-19 13:33:23
QUOTE(princessTON @ Feb 19 2009, 01:29 PM) [snapback]580035[/snapback]
jason walker or kevin thomas

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mortonjag 2009-02-19 13:40:15
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 19 2009, 01:32 PM) [snapback]580036[/snapback]
There's poetry in Joyce's prose you must agree. Like: 'The heaventree of stars hung with humid nightblue fruit'; or 'Perfumes of embraces all him assailed. With hungered flesh he mutely craved to adore'. And talking of pub life: 'I was blue mouldy for the want of that pint. Declare to God I could hear it hit the pit of my stomach'. biggrin.gif
Great stuff from maybe the greatest Irish writer of them all.

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Wasted on this lot Mr E.

How about this:

All hail to the Rev. George Gilfillan, of Dundee,
He is the greatest preacher I did ever hear or see.
He preaches in a plain, straightforward way,
The people flock to hear him night and day,
And hundreds from his church doors are often turned away,
Because he is the greatest preacher of the present day.
The first time I heard him speak 'twas in the Kinnaird Hall,
Lecturing on the Garabaldi movement as loud as he could bawl.
He is a charitable gentlemen to the poor while in distress,
And for his kindness unto them the Lord will surely bless.
My blessing on his noble form and on his lofty head.
May all good angels guard him while living and hereafter when dead. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-19 13:42:46
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 19 2009, 01:36 PM) [snapback]580038[/snapback]
I've not reached the stage of checking my prostrate out yet, i'll let you know if that day should ever come!

Complacency Is the Mother of All Disasters laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-19 13:43:39
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Feb 19 2009, 01:42 PM) [snapback]580043[/snapback]
that must be about the 6th time TID has had to put that post up
can we not just make it a stiky

I wish he'd stick to sausages! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-19 13:46:43
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 19 2009, 01:40 PM) [snapback]580041[/snapback]
Did he ever give a reason why?

In a word-NO!

Though the jilted benefactor was subsequently billed for over two grand for travel, board, and lodgings for a player whom we had on trial, and who apparently had not even been recommended by him! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-19 13:53:30
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 19 2009, 01:49 PM) [snapback]580049[/snapback]
McInnes inherited sound foundations left behind by Owen Coyle. Which is to take nothing away from the job he's doing...but it's a far cry from the play-off bound side that Irons inherited, and a much different job.

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mortonjag 2009-02-19 13:57:05
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 19 2009, 01:48 PM) [snapback]580048[/snapback]
I see what yir upto, next thing you'll be saying to me, "if you can stand the pain then I can stand the smell"

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laugh.gif wub.gif

Right, I'm away for the messages, or I'll get my baws booted by my partner! [attachment=5296:sweatdrop.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-19 15:52:23
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 19 2009, 02:19 PM) [snapback]580061[/snapback]
I believe he's a crap man manager who is universally despised by the squad

Is that code for I speculate he's a crap man manager who is universally despised by the squad or do you actually have connections with some of the players who tell you that?

I had a few conversations with Davie at the start of the season and he struck me as determined but a gentleman. He is also is highly protective of his players in the sense that no one, chairman included, is allowed near them on match days etc. I have not heard any rumours about players 'despising him' other than that there was some history between him and Jenkins and that even there the hatchet was buried.

I also think it might not be a bad thing if some players understand better who the boss is!!

I do indeed! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-19 15:55:23
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 19 2009, 02:26 PM) [snapback]580063[/snapback]
.......and if it didn't kill him, it'll at least cure his piles....... laugh.gif

Shag piles?
mortonjag 2009-02-19 16:04:17
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 19 2009, 04:02 PM) [snapback]580085[/snapback]
Mentaljag revealed.
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2009-02-19 16:15:53
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 19 2009, 04:07 PM) [snapback]580088[/snapback]
Not often you get it wrong DE.

Aran

The islands off Padistan, not Arran in the Firth of Clyde.

As a consolation..................

....et idem indignor quandoque bonus dormitat Homerus

Fotie from chez Edwards!

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mortonjag 2009-02-19 20:35:34
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 19 2009, 06:49 PM) [snapback]580129[/snapback]
Apparently Horace had a poetic ars. ohmy.gif And here was me thinking that only the Ancient Greek Poets had such a predilection.

He wasn't averse to a bit of buff! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-19 20:39:37
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Feb 19 2009, 05:09 PM) [snapback]580108[/snapback]
did you see this story on the BBC today about a wee burd who got badly burnt by one

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7899199.stm

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mortonjag 2009-02-19 20:41:21
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 19 2009, 08:31 PM) [snapback]580155[/snapback]
To be brutally honest, my thoughts are not with the family at this tragic time.

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mortonjag 2009-02-19 20:44:30
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 19 2009, 08:17 PM) [snapback]580148[/snapback]
In your earlier post you said "Over the years, particularly in the 80's they voiced their desire to break away from Scotland."

I see no evidence of that, and you still haven't provided any proof.

The political party you are on about hasn't stood in any election since 1987.
Why have they decided not to stand in any elections for over 20 years ?

They don't have a webpage to outline what they actually stand for. How many members do they have ?
Can you enlighten me on what process they wish to follow to gain either devolution or independence ?

What's with the new avatar Spurtle? [attachment=5299:roflmao.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-19 20:58:28 I don't give a toss about any other Scottish football club except Morton. If this is good for us then bring it on.
mortonjag 2009-02-19 21:02:16
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 19 2009, 08:43 PM) [snapback]580171[/snapback]
But that's what they want us to think mellow.gif

Who are 'they' and what do they want us to think Spurtle? Are you arguing with me that Schizophrenia is not amenable to treatment?

QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Feb 19 2009, 08:55 PM) [snapback]580176[/snapback]
Why take the risk? Just cause he has mental problems doesnt mean he might not kill again. Would rather be safe than sorry.

I tend to agree with that take.

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 19 2009, 08:56 PM) [snapback]580178[/snapback]
The Independent got it right today when it said there are 26 children who have been the victims of Sutcliffe. He should rot in hell.

You'll be able to decompose beside him then Peter! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-19 21:03:50 Fran and Anna were naff entertainers but thoroughly wholesome souls. My thoughts go to those bereaved.
mortonjag 2009-02-19 21:07:43
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 19 2009, 09:03 PM) [snapback]580187[/snapback]
People are missing the point here. He should be locked up for the murders he committed not for the fact he may hear voices in his head or fling his own s***e off the walls. His possible release shouldn't even be up for debate.

Nope!

The very degree and complexity of the crimes are totally consistent with paranoid schizophrenia, which IS an illness.

If he killed because of an illness and IS cured it is reasonable to contemplate release after say thirty years behind bars. I have reservations myself, but in principle that should be the correct attitude.
mortonjag 2009-02-19 21:09:58
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 19 2009, 08:43 PM) [snapback]580172[/snapback]
I've got a big enough gong thank you very much Mr Col. laugh.gif

Jammed half way down a length of rone pipe.
mortonjag 2009-02-19 21:11:08
QUOTE(irnbru @ Feb 19 2009, 09:05 PM) [snapback]580189[/snapback]
His crossing was as poor as our current wingers!!

'wingers'?
mortonjag 2009-02-19 21:16:21
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Feb 19 2009, 09:08 PM) [snapback]580195[/snapback]
Good to see you're being open minded about this ph34r.gif

Listen sonny boy-I'm past puerile faux libertarianism, and I'm pissed off to the back teeth with watching utter crap at Cappielow.

Bring it on, bring Alistair Donald's money on, and let's finally get back to something like the sixties and seventies sides remembered by those of us who are old enough to have learned sense. [attachment=5300:nono.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-19 21:19:27
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 19 2009, 08:27 PM) [snapback]580153[/snapback]

Very good choon-BTW the stuff's been sold! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-19 21:21:29
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 19 2009, 08:46 PM) [snapback]580174[/snapback]
It's very sexy ph34r.gif

It is MINE! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-19 21:25:58
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 19 2009, 09:10 PM) [snapback]580198[/snapback]
I'm not debating that. Even if he did kill due to an illness imo he still shouldn't ever be considered for release - cured or not.

So he's being punished because he was seriously ill?

QUOTE(AJCTON @ Feb 19 2009, 09:12 PM) [snapback]580201[/snapback]
its easy for these guys to become low risk prisoners provided they comply, do all the courses required and dont get into bother with staff its job done and out the door as long as they meet what the parole board ask for. as for serving time as far as i am concerned sutcliffe and people like him should never be let loose onto the streets wither it be 30 murders or 1, they should have went to the gallows and never breathe our oxygen as they are a waste of it.

I clearly see you are a consultant Forensic Psychiatrist! dry.gif

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 19 2009, 09:14 PM) [snapback]580203[/snapback]
Nope. It is entirely unreasonable given the extent and nature of his crimes, notwithstanding any 'illness' he is alleged to have been suffering from.

Your opinion Mr E! laugh.gif

QUOTE(AJCTON @ Feb 19 2009, 09:17 PM) [snapback]580206[/snapback]
you can always rely on mj to be a bit contravercial..................................................he was a doctor after all


Is ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-19 21:30:02
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Feb 19 2009, 09:19 PM) [snapback]580207[/snapback]
Im being open minded about this. Yes I would like Morton to progress but overall I dont think it will be good for scottish football as a whole. Lower teams will suffer and eventually go out of business. And enough of the sonny boy stuff.

Sorry Joe-there are so many of you bloody 1874's I often confuse you with each other.

Anyway, it's a results driven business-or so the Chairman says, and who are we to argue with his Shoogleship? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-19 21:40:57 I'm normally pretty ruthless in my attitude to crime and punishment.

I'm unconvinced that Sutcliffe can safely be released-mainly for reasons suggested by Chrissiboi, but your general lack of understanding of schizophrenia, and particularly paranoid schizophrenia, surprises me.

If it's to be about punishment, irrespective of the fact that he was ill-fine-let him rot in jail, but those who indiscriminately rubbish the opinions of experienced specialists merely demonstrate why they can never aspire to such distinction!

mortonjag 2009-02-19 21:42:04
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 19 2009, 09:33 PM) [snapback]580216[/snapback]
Of course it is. Just imagine the IMO preface to every post I make please because I can't be bothered to state and restate the obvious.

It's not difficult in my experience! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-19 22:33:53
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Feb 19 2009, 09:48 PM) [snapback]580225[/snapback]
Ahh but the thing is it aint completely packed in yet and I'd rather give the cash to a professional tradesman on this board or that comes recommended than pick up The Tele or visit Yell.com.

In other words i was trying to give anyone on this board with experience a chance at the job 1st.

Look after our own and all that Herr McArthur.

OK Willy Man-the compressor's buggered!
mortonjag 2009-02-19 22:34:38
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 19 2009, 09:47 PM) [snapback]580224[/snapback]
Naw it's naw laugh.gif

OH YES she is! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-19 22:38:20
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 19 2009, 09:59 PM) [snapback]580234[/snapback]
It might just be from experience MJ, a bitter experience of psychopaths being released on the advice and assurances of experts, only to find that they kill or seriously offend again. But whatever, my view is based on the principle of 'life should mean life', for most cases of murder, certainly for serial murder.

Do you understand the difference between a psychopath and a paranoid schizophrenic?

QUOTE(Toby @ Feb 19 2009, 10:05 PM) [snapback]580236[/snapback]
A bit like you with a number of folk involved at Morton unsure.gif ?

Possibly, though I'm not aware of ever having criticised the groundsman, the physios, or even the hamper boy! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-19 22:41:50
QUOTE(HamCam @ Feb 19 2009, 10:09 PM) [snapback]580237[/snapback]

Sad really-just a symptom of the monopolistic greed of the American auto industry.
mortonjag 2009-02-19 22:44:05
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Feb 19 2009, 10:42 PM) [snapback]580257[/snapback]
Are you still miffed that Gordon hasn't given Alex his photo opportunity yet Col laugh.gif

The half blind and the brain dead!
mortonjag 2009-02-20 07:39:47
QUOTE(Jim Holmes..Best Ever @ Feb 19 2009, 11:23 PM) [snapback]580270[/snapback]
I really should say Jim Holmes (especially as I can't remember the last decent full-back we've had, Derek Collins probably) but since goals win matches, Ally McGraw for me.
JH.


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mortonjag 2009-02-20 07:45:15
QUOTE(Toby @ Feb 19 2009, 09:55 PM) [snapback]580229[/snapback]
Of course not, but that still doesn't make what we're doing right.

Scottish football really needs the SFA taking over the running of the league. One body cuts cost, has everyone singing from the same hymn sheet and minimises the risk of self interest coming into play; not to mention getting a few over paid executives out of jobs that involve junkets and very little proper graft.

In theory, i'd like to think that a group of my mates could form a club, play in a Sunday park league next season and have the opportunity to bring the club right up to the SPL through time, but under the current set up that won't ever happen. It's probably very similar across the globe- remember it's only recently the EFL allowed a second non-league team promotion because of firm resistance from those who's league place would be threatened.

I see Toby's off on another mission biggrin.gif

Oh well prepare yourselves folks-we're wrong to look after our own interests-let's all harken to Jesus' Toby's teachings and impoverish ourselves for the sake of our suffering fellow man-FOR GREAT WILL BE OUR REWARD IN HEAVEN [attachment=5304:party.gif]

But wait unsure.gif Heaven and Scottish Football in the same sentence?

Sorry Toby-pull the other one mate-it plays Silent Night in Urdu!!! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-20 07:51:46
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Feb 19 2009, 11:33 PM) [snapback]580273[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Feb 19 2009, 11:25 PM) [snapback]580271[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I will ask you a question about your last paragraph, who would you put in his place?

You're not allowed to say that. I've been told on this board countless times that the fact there is no clear replacement is no reason not to get rid of him.

Well it's time you fell off your wee hobby horse then!

Listen to folk who KNOW what they're talking about. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-20 07:54:32
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 19 2009, 09:38 PM) [snapback]580218[/snapback]
Shakes his sugarally watur as a mark of respect .

Did someone on here not say they saw them in full stage kit driving to a gig
?

Col will be in mourning all week

Indeed-'twas I-I was driving to work in coatbridge and they were heading towards Glasgow-stopped at the Bargeddie lights in full gear including the bunnets! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-20 07:57:29
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 19 2009, 06:56 PM) [snapback]580130[/snapback]
Shame she never got a Brit Award.

Wrong again Edwards! ph34r.gif

In 1989, the showbiz sisters were awarded with British Empire Medals in the Queen's Birthday Honours List for their services to light entertainment. It was only then that the duo's ages, hitherto a closely guarded secret, were revealed. Before that they had always styled themselves as perpetually 21
mortonjag 2009-02-20 08:03:46
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 19 2009, 11:08 PM) [snapback]580267[/snapback]
Not fully, no. I think that a psychopath is a general term for someone who has no consideration whatsoever for others feelings or sufferings, whereas a paranoid schizophrenic may, in addition, suffer from multiple personalities, imagined 'voices', irrational fears and extreme paranoia. I'm sure you can correct / disabuse me if I'm wrong.
Murder victims of psychopaths and/or paranoid schizophrenics may not be so interested though, perhaps because whatever or whoever killed them, they'd be just as dead. laugh.gif

Correct Mr Edwards-AND just as dead as the poor child you may mow down and kill later this morning because you take a stroke while driving!

Pan breid's pan breid! dry.gif

You will be guilty of murder because of an uncontrollable illness. That is YOUR perception-not mine!!!


If you recover from your stroke, I do hope you're incarcerated for the rest of your natural and beaten daily with a tickling stick! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-20 08:13:43
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 20 2009, 07:45 AM) [snapback]580298[/snapback]
It already has 'welcome to New York, have a nice day' tattooed on it but not in Gaelic. rolleyes.gif

Only said 'wnk' when I saw it Peter!
mortonjag 2009-02-20 08:15:24
QUOTE(MaxTon1874 @ Feb 20 2009, 12:25 AM) [snapback]580280[/snapback]
My partner has just recently passed her driving test and already she wants her car sprayed a different colour. I have looked in yellow pages and things and have seen a few numbers that I may contact as a last resort. I have heard that there are a few local garages that do full car sprays the one next to me has now shut down.

Encase Matters can’t get any worse yes you have guessed correct she wants it PINK as in playboy pink. Don’t ask it must be a girl driver thing these days with playboy and pink. I must admit I have seen a few cars on the roads of Greenock done pink and they look not bad, iv seen worse.

So any advice or help would be much appreciated folks no joke. I have been quoted as not getting much change from £2000 for a full pink spray. Anyone know anywhere local or that and costs ?????

Cheers folks rolleyes.gif wink.gif .

You'd really have to give a wee bit more info-what's the model and how old is it?
mortonjag 2009-02-20 08:16:49
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 20 2009, 08:14 AM) [snapback]580304[/snapback]
Boring.

A wee bird told me that sheep lips is going all out for attack on Saturday.

I laughed.
mortonjag 2009-02-20 09:40:07
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 20 2009, 09:22 AM) [snapback]580311[/snapback]
Sorry but that's a poor comparison. What you describe is not murder by any resonable definition; there is no premeditation, or no deliberation involved.



OK then- you kill the child because you're poorly sighted, your specs need upgraded and you put it off because you're skint through no fault of your own.

It's NOT a poor comparison at all. The whole point of my getting involved in this thread is to heighten awareness of mental health issues.

Paranoid schizophrenia has been the subject of ENORMOUS research. There is a huge body of evidence to prove that the actions of people like Sutcliffe appear correct to them at the time of their misdoings. Often they kill out of fear for their own lives. It's totally irrational-OF COURSE IT IS-they are mentally ILL!

Unfortunately it's very difficult to disentangle cause and effect, and the trial judge bottled out of accepting respected medical evidence because of the huge Media Circus and public demand for 'a scalp'.

So Sutcliffe spent eight years in a high security prison before being sent to Broadmoor for proper treatment of his disease-something he's been receiving for the last twenty years.

I strongly believe he would not re-offend, but I'd not risk releasing him. As Chrissiboi pointed out-care in the community's a joke, and 'mental' patients often default on medication if unsupervised.

So there you have my take, but don't pay any heed as I'm medically qualified and clearly biased-unlike the dispassionate intelligentsia who want a 63 year old shell of a man thrown to the lions.
mortonjag 2009-02-20 09:54:48
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Feb 20 2009, 09:32 AM) [snapback]580312[/snapback]
My understanding is that there is NO unmanned sun bed parlours allowed in Scotland due to changes in the law, in England and Wales there is no equavilent- so if you want unmanned you'll need to head South!

For your fry up!

sizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzle
mortonjag 2009-02-20 10:00:17
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 20 2009, 09:55 AM) [snapback]580317[/snapback]
You never have and fortunately never will Douglas.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

NEVER say 'never' Peter. I'm contemplating doing some locums in E.Kilbride! cool.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-20 10:17:21
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 20 2009, 10:03 AM) [snapback]580322[/snapback]
Is there a proven cure for such illnesses ? Can 'the patient' come off the anti-psychotic drugs and return to normaility? Is there a physical test to establish a diagnosis in the first place or does the diagnosis rely on psychiatric analysis alone?
BTW You may know that I've never been an advocate of 'throwing' anyone 'to the lions', but I think from time to time,you have been. Perhaps the 'mental mullah' that you described as a 'piece of human s*** that should be flushed away' really is mental, and should be treated and maybe cured of his illness. Maybe he hears voices too, maybe he imagines that Allah and the Prophet are telling him to conspire in mass murder. Poor wee soul. biggrin.gif



How many illnesses do you know of Mr Edwards, which have a proven cure. The huge majority is either self limiting or requires long term treatment. Provided Sutcliffe has responded adequately to treatment, it is perfectly reasonable to assume he can safely be released IF the treatment is maintained!

Your attitude to his illness has clearly been of the 'lock him up and throw away the key' variety.

NOW-to your perception of my opinions. laugh.gif

Indeed I often exaggerate to make a point, though I'd certainly be happy to personally birch knife wielding first offenders within an inch of their lives!

As for that mad Mullah-I'm afraid that his behaviour is quite atypical of schizophrenia.

Psychopathy is an entirely different matter, but I digress-the mad Mullah and Spurtle have much in common.
mortonjag 2009-02-20 10:18:33
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 20 2009, 10:15 AM) [snapback]580324[/snapback]
Exactly who was 'in full gear'? You or the sisters? laugh.gif

I was in neutral. The sisters were in bunnets.
mortonjag 2009-02-20 10:20:07
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Feb 20 2009, 10:02 AM) [snapback]580320[/snapback]
We're having a lot of run-ins on the Net these days!
Another colossal comment. You should put these in a book, they're simply brilliant.

Mortonjag is the author of many books.
mortonjag 2009-02-20 10:22:08
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 20 2009, 10:03 AM) [snapback]580321[/snapback]
Poor form.

Sincere apologies if I'm snail-like in getting to this.

McAnespie is one of few players to have scored in wins over both Rangers (an injury time goal in a 3–1 victory)and Celtic (the winner in a 2-1 victory)in the same season.

Now THERE'S something very few can tell their grandchildren.
mortonjag 2009-02-20 10:23:33
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 20 2009, 10:21 AM) [snapback]580328[/snapback]
laugh.gif Are you sure that the fishnet tights were neutral?

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I could only see the faces and those outrageous bunnets. The sisters were quite wee!
mortonjag 2009-02-20 10:53:08
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 20 2009, 10:36 AM) [snapback]580339[/snapback]
Please don't paraphrase me, quote the whole thing.... tongue.gif

I merely edited! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-20 10:58:14
QUOTE(Mick @ Feb 20 2009, 10:33 AM) [snapback]580336[/snapback]
With respect, you're the last person to be commenting on anyone being on a 'mission'.....! rolleyes.gif

Toby is absolutely bang on. A supporter with some moral fibre. Remember, without supporters who chose to be like Toby (and consider the wellbeing of a struggling Club) we wouldn't be having this conversation. A little bit of respect, for the wider picture isn't a bad idea - even if it is interpreted by some as altruism.

I haven't looked, but I rather suspect that when Pierce Flynn was mooting this idea with Livvy, there were threads and threads dedicated to pointing out what a selfish, self-involved b@wbag he was. That turns out to be a statement of fact but, nevertheless, what's different with SPL2 now? The idea in principle doesn't seem radically different.

I don't understand the comment in red. No doubt you will elaborate by way of some explanation! unsure.gif


I respect Toby's opinions, and have supported him wholeheartedly in the past (often when others were putting the boot in).

On this one I just happen to believe that self preservation is far more important than helping lame ducks waddle another few yards to their inevitable demise and our detriment! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-20 11:00:10
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Feb 20 2009, 10:23 AM) [snapback]580330[/snapback]
Why would you want to look like Tommy Sheridan? Guys + sundbeds = twats. rolleyes.gif

Guys + sunbeds + twats = Sheridan at play!
mortonjag 2009-02-20 11:00:59
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Feb 20 2009, 10:24 AM) [snapback]580332[/snapback]
That must have been a sight to behold. laugh.gif

I do recall the 'double take'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-20 11:03:55
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 20 2009, 10:44 AM) [snapback]580343[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDSaladdin supper?
mortonjag 2009-02-20 11:30:31
QUOTE(Mick @ Feb 20 2009, 11:19 AM) [snapback]580351[/snapback]
Perhaps I didn't understand the nature of the relationship that you two have....

From an outsider's perspective, it seemed as though you were having a go at him.....accusing him of being on a 'mission' isn't exactly a complimentary reference.

Perhaps your comments were bathed in irony....dunno!? rolleyes.gif

I enjoy Toby's 'missions'!

I was poking a wee bit of fun, though I disagree fundamentally on this one.
mortonjag 2009-02-20 11:40:29
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 20 2009, 11:34 AM) [snapback]580353[/snapback]
Does a club that loses £250k per annum fall into the 'lame duck' category?

I'm talking about lame ducks with no prospect of food! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-20 11:54:45
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 20 2009, 11:45 AM) [snapback]580357[/snapback]
Sorry, but I don't think it's reasonable to release a psychotic serial killer under any circumstances, whether you think he's cured or not.

If he's cured he ain't psychotic any more! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-20 12:03:05 Well here's mine and it's my perception that it's getting WORSE despite the so called advances in the driving test. The chief culprits seem to be young women, though they are far from alone.

DRIVING UP YER ERSE



It's bad enough on a motorway when they refuse to pull out and overtake-gradually slowing down on them usually solves the problem-but how often do you see traffic lights at red a couple of hundred yards ahead and come off the gas only for some aggressive blonde tart in a convertible Pug to race up behind you and sit a yard off your bumper when she's going nowhere fast.

I've noticed that young women appear to be the new 'boy racers'. I've also noticed that they're usually duff at racing! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-20 12:09:02
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Feb 20 2009, 11:58 AM) [snapback]580362[/snapback]
I know, doubt anyone can be arsed reading but there ye go. laugh.gif

I actually enjoyed your well presented dissertation. It's refreshing to read an educated post every couple of months on our wee massage board.

I still think sheep lips is keech mind! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-20 13:08:07
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 20 2009, 12:05 PM) [snapback]580365[/snapback]
Is a duck that lives within its means lame? Should those clubs that have lived within their means be effectively penalised for doing so? Why should we expect SPL2 to succeed when SPL1 has failed ? Football as a business is bankrupt. Standards of play and entertainment values decrease every year whilst players wage demands and gate prices increase every year. SPL2 will just be another part of the problem, a symptom, not a cure.

I do not know whether this will be successful for us or not. I don't believe we'll be worse off.

The point I am stressing is that there is no place for altruism in Scottish Football.

If we were a Stranraer, or a Forfar, I'd obviously feel differently-I'm totally self interested where this is concerned BECAUSE Greenock Morton IS a viable proposition.
mortonjag 2009-02-20 13:10:32
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 20 2009, 01:03 PM) [snapback]580384[/snapback]
It hasn't worked out for him here , looked a decent player when he first came on the scene . Don't know if injuries have really lost him his confidence .

Anyway it wasn't McAnespie who heralded himself as the ex premier league player who was the experience we needed to take us into the 1st division .

Correct Chris-it was the same guy who told us that Irons and Collins would be 'with us for a long time to come' and now regrets the moment he set eyes on them! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-20 13:15:43
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 20 2009, 12:17 PM) [snapback]580372[/snapback]
You've already admitted that there is no proven cure; he can only be cured in the psychiatrist's opinion / judgement / assessment. Opinions / judgements / assessments can be wrong. And maybe he aint psychotic because he's taking the medication. Release him and he might not. Moral arguments aside, the risks are too great and the public should be protected.

That's better. Dispassionate statements are always best. I agree with you.
mortonjag 2009-02-20 13:19:12
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 20 2009, 01:15 PM) [snapback]580390[/snapback]
If it wasn't for altruism this club, and most others, wouldn't exist. Our club is only viable because we have an altuistic benefactor who services our debt. Whether it can become self sufficient in the future is a matter of hope rather than certainty. As I said, SPL1 hasn't cured the debt problems, hence I have little faith that an SPL2 will.

That is both inaccurate in terms of motivation, and presumptive in terms of our ultimate fate had Shoogly not embarked on his completely egocentric flight of fancy!
mortonjag 2009-02-20 14:15:30
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 20 2009, 01:27 PM) [snapback]580395[/snapback]
The club depended on not just the altruism of Shoogly, but the altruism of Morton Supporters. I don't wish to depend on any benevolent millionaire, you just seem to have a particular objection to one, while you're quite happy with the prospect of depending on another. The 'other' you seem to have faith in, might not even be a Morton Supporter.

I can't be arsed beating about the bush on this-Rae saved us because Rae wanted power and glory, and the power's been abused badly. Of course it could have been much worse. It MIGHT have been much better. Regarding whether or not you think AD is 'a Morton Supporter' (the definition of which is widely interpreted) I couldn't give a toss provided his stewardship is sound, with integrity, adequate funding and appropriate delegation-three things which have been absent under the Rae fist of iron. Rae of course is 'Morton through and through, with his heart in the right place'---add whatever other sycophantic pish you can remember!!!

QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 20 2009, 01:37 PM) [snapback]580396[/snapback]
I don't think it is all that presumptive. We were very, very close to going to the wall. And besides, I don't think many successful businessmen enter football without being clouded by ego...particulalrly in Scottish football where there is no real business sense to investing.

Of COURSE it's presumptive. It's probable that nobody else would have stepped in but NOT impossible. Anyway-not to lose the thread, I agree with you that it's usually an ego boost 'hands on' exercise for not particularly wealthy local millionaires.
mortonjag 2009-02-20 14:20:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 20 2009, 01:42 PM) [snapback]580398[/snapback]
Of course they are. Terms like 'human s*** that should be flushed away' and 'birching thugs within an inch of their lives' are best avoided in a reasoned argument. I'm glad you agree. laugh.gif

Those terms are entirely dispassionate Mr Edwards. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-20 14:24:31
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Feb 20 2009, 02:02 PM) [snapback]580404[/snapback]
Folk that come out of the slip road from Erskine (or any other slip for that matter) and pull straight out into the outside lane, every f***ing morning, arseholes. I think through experience i've chilled quite a bit and am quite considerate when driving, but that gets right on my tits! mad.gif

I know exactly what you're describing. If they've matched their speed in the approach lane and don't hold up anybody else of course, it's perfectly sensible.
mortonjag 2009-02-20 14:38:39
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 20 2009, 02:27 PM) [snapback]580416[/snapback]
Your opinions on Mr Rae' s motives are well known. Nevertheless they are just opinions, not facts, and as you said on another thread, it's best to remain dispassionate in these matters. My (dispassionate) opinion is that although an alternative 'saviour' was not impossible, it was highly improbable. Call that presumptive if you like. As I've said before, I don't wish to depend on the whims or fancies of any benevolet millionaire and would prefer for the cub to become self sufficient. You may trust Mr Donald, but I'll reserve judgement.

REALLY!

Well here's another opinion. Alistair Donald will do an infinitely better job, BECAUSE he is able to run business on a grand scale by effective delegation. Rae has done exactly the opposite because of his niggardly 'hands on' penny pinching personality.

Oh and a question.

Who paid for the Midden's stand? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-20 14:40:04
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 20 2009, 02:30 PM) [snapback]580417[/snapback]
To a psychopath perhaps they are. laugh.gif

Are you calling mortonjag a psychopath? blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-20 14:41:44
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 20 2009, 02:39 PM) [snapback]580420[/snapback]
The burd's got in on the act now, and SHE'S having DNA tests done to see if she's the actual mother....... laugh.gif

It was obvious somebody had it in for him! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-20 14:44:34
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 20 2009, 02:40 PM) [snapback]580422[/snapback]
Eh? blink.gif When did you make that up?

Do you believe otherwise?
mortonjag 2009-02-20 14:47:47
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 20 2009, 02:45 PM) [snapback]580426[/snapback]
Not so much in the car but when I'm on the motorbike folk sometimes pull out into my lane, slow down and then refuse to get out of my way. It fecking infuriates me and yes Doc, it always seems to be daft burds.

On the flip side of that coin you have folk who see you in their mirrors and immediately slow to 10mph and pull in to the left, scraping along the kerb and start waving you past. This usually happens in residential areas when I'm doing 20 with no intention of overtaking anyone.

Another of my favourite hates is folk who take five seconds to get going at a green light when the traffic's congested.
mortonjag 2009-02-20 14:50:46
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 20 2009, 02:45 PM) [snapback]580427[/snapback]
Not at all, I wouldn't be so presumptive. biggrin.gif

Do you agree that Shoogly may be a psychopath? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-20 14:52:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 20 2009, 02:50 PM) [snapback]580429[/snapback]
Opinions again, however jaundiced they might be. Maybe Santa Claus paid for the Midden Stand, who knows, it might even have been Greenock Morton Football Club. biggrin.gif

It appears that you don't know the answer! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-20 20:30:36
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 20 2009, 02:57 PM) [snapback]580436[/snapback]
We have a vastly improved stadium, a training facility to call our own, and a wage bill which must be up there with th teams around about us. I don't think adequate funding is really an issue. How that funding has been used at times however...

Fair point. Perhaps it has been used inadequately!

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 20 2009, 02:58 PM) [snapback]580437[/snapback]
Opinions again. laugh.gif

AH-you DO know but won't tell! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-20 20:33:33
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 20 2009, 06:12 PM) [snapback]580472[/snapback]
I have no reason what so ever but to believe otherwise.

Is this not you just passing your opinions off as being fact again. Or do you, in fact, have some insight into the Rae Irons relationship that no one else is privy to?

Don't be ridiculous-it's common knowledge that Rae wanted shot of him and that he missed his P45 by the skin of his teeth.

I'm surprised that you are not aware of that.
mortonjag 2009-02-20 20:36:26
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 20 2009, 03:32 PM) [snapback]580446[/snapback]
And the fishnet tights, tartan mini skirt and bunnet ? I'm sure you'll attract a lot of interest. ' Hey Mr Donald, where's yer troosers ?'. laugh.gif

More importantly-Hey Donald, how much is in yer troosers? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-20 20:40:35
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Feb 20 2009, 07:24 PM) [snapback]580487[/snapback]
In my experience, the driving up the arse is always salesman looking types with a suit on.

That suggests to me ( and I may be wrong) that you're reluctant to let them pass. I was talking about the ones who think you have a bloody magnetic back bumper and use you as a guide! Them salesmen guys are in a hurry-ask McArthur-though he'll undoubtedly deny it because he comes from E. Kilbride and drives a French motor.
mortonjag 2009-02-20 20:43:58
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 20 2009, 02:56 PM) [snapback]580434[/snapback]
She really is a bit of a munter tho.

Reminds me of the story about ASDA:

A very loud, greasy, unattractive, tatooed, welfare dependent,
neddy minger of a woman wearing a Celtic top walked into ASDA in Castlemilk
with her two kids, yelling obscenities at them all the way through the entrance.

The ASDA greeter said pleasantly,
'Good morning madam, and welcome to ASDA.

Nice children you have there.
Are they twins by any chance?'

The ugly woman stopped yelling long enough to say,
'F*ck naw, they're naw twins.
Wan’s 9, and the other wan's 7.
Why the f*ck would you think they're twins?
Ur ye blind, thick or jist stupit?'

'I'm neither blind nor stupid, Madam,' replied the greeter.
'I just couldn't believe you've been shagged twice.

Have a good day, and thank you for shopping at ASDA.'

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mortonjag 2009-02-20 20:45:36
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 20 2009, 02:56 PM) [snapback]580435[/snapback]
No, do you? Maybe you should ask him to submit for your examination. I'm sure he'd deal with your request 'dispassionately'. laugh.gif

You deny the possibility!

That is plainly ridiculous Mr Edwards. [attachment=5307:nono.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-20 20:51:46
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 20 2009, 08:30 PM) [snapback]580518[/snapback]
Don't forget George Mathewson in the line up for a 'Greenock Handshake'. biggrin.gif

A dispassionate Greenock Handshake or an earthy Glesca Kiss? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-20 20:58:02 Goody is the impersonation of the thick benefits culture 'thumb my nose at hard working folk' arses who are all to common and bleed the taxpayer dry. She is also a proven cheat and liar, to say nothing of her racism.

I presume I'm expected to say I feel sorry for her because she's ridden roughshod over medical advice AND common knowledge.

If I do, I'll be lying.
mortonjag 2009-02-20 21:00:13
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 20 2009, 08:36 PM) [snapback]580523[/snapback]
I wasn't aware Rae wanted rid of him. What is apparent to you is not common knowledge to the masses.

I think if Rae wanted him out he would bin him.

BTW, I take that means you are just passing off opinion as fact? laugh.gif

The masses have now been informed of the fact. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-20 21:01:55 I'm most of all hoping for a decent game. I don't expect us to lose and don't expect us to score more than two.

1-1---LEAFY!
mortonjag 2009-02-20 21:02:59
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 20 2009, 08:44 PM) [snapback]580530[/snapback]
laugh.gif ........and when are you going to part with it?

...OR-who paid for the Midden's Stand? blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-20 21:03:57
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 20 2009, 08:48 PM) [snapback]580532[/snapback]
Ridiculous I might be from time to time, but plainly, never. How dare you. tongue.gif

Ornately ridiculous!
mortonjag 2009-02-20 21:05:36
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 20 2009, 09:02 PM) [snapback]580538[/snapback]
I see some American actor (cannae remember who it is) fathered a child in his 80's.

If the wee 13 year old fathers a child every year think about all the children he could father till he reaches his 80's.

What is the world record for children born to one father anyway ? unsure.gif

Somewhat overdue! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-20 22:44:30
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 20 2009, 10:31 PM) [snapback]580551[/snapback]
Anything and everything can be used as an excuse for a piss up, but there's nothing really new in that. In these times it's just more widespread. The nation has had a chronic problem with drink for as long as I can remember, only now it seems to be reaching epidemic proportions. You've admitted alcoholism WDE, so you might understand better than most. BTW How do you know that 'no one went out and got pissed' after your own christening? Two things that people lie about most are drink and sex I think. The lies mostly concern 'amounts'.

Very true.
mortonjag 2009-02-20 22:47:13
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 20 2009, 10:38 PM) [snapback]580552[/snapback]
He was within an ace of the sack not because Mr Rae did not like him but simply because of our run of dire results. There was unrest for a bit especially after the Airdrie game but some of the players had that coming and the fact that Irons has emerged from that as the boss is to his credit.

I don't think he's the greatest manager we've had, but he's better than some (like the last one for example) and he has restored some of our pride. We are hard to beat and no one sees us as an easy three points. I like the fact that he does not sign players he does not think will improve the squad and that he is not afraid to clear out players when necessary.

He's got a bit to go tactically imho, especially when the game needs changed like second half against Livi. He may well improve in this respect with time.

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Which poses the question-why was JM not oot the door FAR sooner?

Answer-because Shoogly DID like him!
mortonjag 2009-02-20 22:55:28
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 20 2009, 10:48 PM) [snapback]580556[/snapback]
Hey, is the 'personal photo' in your profile really yourself? A geezer smoking a fag? A Doctor ignoring his own advice?
I'm shocked! biggrin.gif

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mortonjag 2009-02-21 08:57:21 Megrahi dying in jail.

Clue:


Mortonjag has his sources! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-21 09:00:44
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Feb 21 2009, 12:27 AM) [snapback]580573[/snapback]
Every single player that he has named as an injury doubt will not only play but start.

TY Mr McCall. [attachment=5309:whistling.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-21 09:03:53
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 21 2009, 07:19 AM) [snapback]580587[/snapback]
Fantastic. A 59 year old being being patronised by a 102 year old. laugh.gif
Surely asking if you are a psycopath is, erm, slightly psychotic Douglas? rolleyes.gif

Don't be as naive as Edwards, Peter. I merely asked him if I 'may' be psychotic to stimulate his triad of neurones.
mortonjag 2009-02-21 09:12:31
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 21 2009, 07:28 AM) [snapback]580589[/snapback]
Janet Street Porter wrote a really good piece in The Limpwristdependent on Wednesday. As someone who grew up with an older father and has many friends and relatives who are older parents and who had children very young I found this very interesting.

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/comme...ns-1624837.html

I was enjoying the article until I reached this provocatively loaded question:

All these men are intelligent and comfortably off. Is that why we secretly think they make more acceptable parents than Chantelle and Alfie?


Answer:

NO you daft cow-I don't secretly think it-I fucking well know it AND SO DO YOU!!

I bet you got more for that article than the wee thirteen year old 'shagger' will get from the Sun! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-21 09:15:53
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 21 2009, 12:56 AM) [snapback]580578[/snapback]
Thankfully mine will be fine smile.gif

....and mine! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-21 09:33:34
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Feb 21 2009, 02:32 AM) [snapback]580582[/snapback]
FFS don't get me started! Yer aw bawbags! rolleyes.gif

HGV drivers are in general very considerate, with the exception of the odd gung ho scumbag. Folk don't realise that they HAVE to pull out on uphill gradients when they get the chance, or they end up starting at the bottom of the box again and losing valuable time bringing your goodies to the warehouses!

Oh and in heavy traffic they appreciate a wee flash back in when they've cleared your bow! wink.gif

Taxi drivers, on the other hand, are a fucking menace! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-21 10:48:48
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 21 2009, 10:24 AM) [snapback]580605[/snapback]
Yep, he's said as much in today's paper - most of the lads starting will not be 100% fit.
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And you believe the papers? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-21 10:52:28
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 21 2009, 10:40 AM) [snapback]580611[/snapback]
laugh.gif That'll be at least two more than you have then.

Good gracious Mr E-you ARE highly self opinionated this morning.

I'm very happy with my one wee brain cell! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-21 11:06:47
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 21 2009, 11:03 AM) [snapback]580614[/snapback]
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No, but I believe the DIRECT quotes from McCall that have been printed in various sources - I'm sure you're intelligent enough to dig those sources out for yourself. wink.gif

....And I believe McCall's a past master of second guessing the opposition. The first time I read about his 'plight', I thought-'Seen it'! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-21 13:47:28
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Feb 21 2009, 12:48 PM) [snapback]580637[/snapback]
If Shoogly hadn't have stepped in the game was up. There were no other knights in white chargers just waiting around the corner. We would all have been sitting on a Saturday regretting our loss. He may be difficult to deal with and you can argue about his stewardship of the club but the facts are very simple..No shoogly no club.

And as for this obsession you've developed for Mr Donald I can't for the life of me see where that is coming from.
What has he done since coming to Cappielow? Has he made the sitting tenant and offer he can't refuse? Let me answer that one NOOOOOO..
So Mr Donald is as much a mystery as Lord Lucan. If he has a hand to reveal he's the best poker player I've ever come across, or the worst. Depends on whether you have on your rose tinted specs!!!

You have ABSOLUTELY no proof that 'the game was up' Measles!

You clearly know a damned sight less about the club than you'd have everybody believe.

AD is no Lord Lucan. More of a Lord Jesus in terms of your previous post. Perhaps our faux redeemer will finally bow out in a season or so!

mortonjag 2009-02-21 21:28:09
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 21 2009, 09:11 PM) [snapback]580826[/snapback]
Proof

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mortonjag 2009-02-21 21:35:52
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 21 2009, 05:44 PM) [snapback]580717[/snapback]
Just in from the game - can't say I'm happy with the result, but it was the right result.

First half was horrid stuff from both sides, though I thought we improved in the 2nd half despite losing the goal. Bringing Grady on changed the tide of the game, and I do have to give credit to DI for at least changing the formation and having a go in the latter parts of the game.

That is one of the most ludicrous statements I've ever heard. Sheep lips is a bloody cretin! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 21 2009, 07:04 PM) [snapback]580755[/snapback]
Perhaps it makes them feel better. I'd rather they vent their frustration at a seemingly clueless manager than the players seemingly trying to pull it back.

EXACTLY!

QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 21 2009, 08:28 PM) [snapback]580795[/snapback]
Do we just drag everyone down to our level , remember plenty of teams doing it to us when we were in the 2nd , the most worrying thing is we look unable to change things and there are better teams at doing what we are doing .

Ultimately if the club have ambitions of playing at a higher level I can't see us achieving this with a brand of football that is only increasing the need for the Samaritans.


Yes we do, and they still gub us! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-21 21:53:46 FUCK OFF. mad.gif

You knew McCall had a weakened side, but you're just a big cowardly c*nt who's more interested in avoiding that P45 than trying for three points, and you clearly care even less about the paying customer than the clown who now regrets signing you.

As usual other posters are having their own wee snipes at individual players, and you'll no doubt trot out your usual lies and excuses in tomorrow's rags Irons, but you can't hide from reality. You truly don't have a fucking clue, and the saddest thing of all is that you think you're bloody marvellous.

In that respect, Jim McInally is light years ahead of you.

Why don't you just fuck off you inept tactical ignoramus?

You are torturing the loyal Morton support. I hope Rae has the balls to bin you now, and not wait for another last ditch escape from relegation, whereupon the sycophantic myopes will queueing to lick the shite off your arse for achieving bugger all in a season which could have been SO different. [attachment=5311:thumbdown.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-21 22:08:03
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ Feb 21 2009, 09:54 PM) [snapback]580852[/snapback]
What a shame that he sent us out for a bore draw in the first place.

We are playing in the manner that we started the season and its looking decidedly ominous.

No one has been brought in during the "window" and i really doubt our credentials to get out of it.

Here we go again.................... wink.gif
JB.

EXACTLY!
mortonjag 2009-02-21 22:12:09
QUOTE(dazza @ Feb 21 2009, 06:37 PM) [snapback]580733[/snapback]
Airdrie, Livingston and now today he has directly cost us points. Time to get a left back on loan irons! Before we end up being relegated!

Sheep lips' poodle pronounceth! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-21 22:14:10
QUOTE(lemmington @ Feb 21 2009, 08:16 PM) [snapback]580784[/snapback]
League Pts

Morton 29
Clyde 27
Airdrie 23

What is the best result do you think for us????
Personally a drawIMO.

I hope Clyde win 5-0 and then Shoogly will be forced to do what he should have done before Grady temporarily saved sheep lips' bacon. mad.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-21 22:15:56
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 21 2009, 06:21 PM) [snapback]580726[/snapback]
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

YOU. ARE. TERRIBLE. AT. FOOTBALL.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Another childish attack on an individual player. Another excuse for the Manager! mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-21 22:18:29
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 21 2009, 01:29 PM) [snapback]580641[/snapback]
To be honest Idont know what the big deal is, my oldest was born just before my 15th birthday.

How many pet parrots do you have Granddad?
mortonjag 2009-02-21 22:19:35
QUOTE(axeman @ Feb 21 2009, 08:29 PM) [snapback]580798[/snapback]
Everyone is being bombarded about what's going on, on TV & in the press whether they want to know about it or not.

As for the marriage, personally I don't see it lasting. ph34r.gif

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mortonjag 2009-02-21 22:21:22 Notice how little interest this thread attracts. The establishment thinks it has done an excellent job. Megrahi is innocent.
mortonjag 2009-02-21 22:28:28
QUOTE(SramTon @ Feb 21 2009, 09:52 PM) [snapback]580847[/snapback]
Has anyone reading this thread ever been involved in an accident involving tailgating?

I have not, but my partner's sister is an incredible tailgater (and otherwise a lovely woman).

She took a wrong turning on the way to her Granddad's funeral in Falkirk, and was in so much of a hurry to get to the church that she crashed into the back of the hearse carrying his body!
mortonjag 2009-02-21 22:46:06 Association football, more commonly known as football or soccer, is a team sport played between two teams of eleven players, and is widely considered to be the most popular sport in the world. It is a football variant played on a rectangular grass or artificial turf field, with a goal at each of the short ends. The object of the game is to score by manoeuvring the ball into the opposing goal. blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-21 22:54:35
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Feb 21 2009, 09:20 PM) [snapback]580832[/snapback]
Indeed. Masterton may be inconsistent, but he does come up with an assist or clever pass far, far more often than anyone else - likewise today, with apparently our only chance coming from one of his deliveries.

Given how abjectly poor Morton are, it would be ludicrous to drop a guy that is capapble of hitting a good free-kick, it's not as if there's goals coming from anywhere else.
The sooner Irons disappears the better. I was going to also say McGuffie likewise, but perhaps it would be more appropriate if he DID appear at some point.

Correct, and I unashamedly quote myself.





post Feb 16 2009, 10:57 AM
Post #10


mortonjag





Partick scored two on Saturday and still got beat. We'll have to attack them. Do you think we will, or perhaps sheep lips will be aiming for another inglorious draw!

I believe we CAN beat them. I don't believe we will! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-21 22:56:49
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Feb 21 2009, 10:50 PM) [snapback]580889[/snapback]
Ease up MJ plenty of time to burst that blood vessel before the end of the season.

Mr Irons is merely making us difficult to beat before moving on to page 2 of the Ladybird book of football management.

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mortonjag 2009-02-21 23:11:27 1/ If Greacen's header had gone in, I think we'd have held out for three points.

2/ Finlayson wasn't offside-a defender played him on.

3/ Grady was pushed over in the box near the end-we should have had a penalty.

4/ The pitch was a disgrace and they know where all the bumps are.

5/ Smith missed a tackle which allowed them to score.

OR will he go for the more ridiculous? laugh.gif

1/ Their goalie had an outstanding game-he didn't miss a single save all afternoon.

2/ Ian McCall kept distracting me when I was trying to instruct my players, and the linesman wouldn't pay any heed. In fact he told me to calm down!

3/ The Referee was clearly biased.

4/ I was only allowed to field eleven players at any one time.

5/ My wife's period came yesterday morning.

6/ My piles are getting worse.


Ad nauseam.


OR.


I hold my hands up and admit I got it completely wrong. Thistle were there for the taking-we should have gone at them from the kick off.

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mortonjag 2009-02-21 23:26:25
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 21 2009, 11:15 PM) [snapback]580897[/snapback]
Today I learned that I live exactly 25 minutes from Firhill. rolleyes.gif


You must take very long strides Peter!
mortonjag 2009-02-21 23:29:10
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 21 2009, 11:11 PM) [snapback]580895[/snapback]
It's not a good sign, he's clearly mad. Have you read any of his 29,000,000 posts? blink.gif

29,000,001 now Peter! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-21 23:30:10 Naitch is Peter's 'butler'! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-21 23:31:53 That we have failed to score a goal in our last four away matches.

That's an interesting statistic! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-21 23:40:34
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 21 2009, 11:33 PM) [snapback]580910[/snapback]
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Wrong way around. wink.gif

Seriously though, I'm in the 'leafy' east end of the city - whilst I'd imagine Mr McArthur lives in the slums of the west end. tongue.gif

EDIT: Having just checked - it says East Kilbride on the profile. Is that still considered the 'west end' ...? tongue.gif laugh.gif

I believe Peter lives in the West end of East Kilbride! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-21 23:41:40
QUOTE(Capuan @ Feb 21 2009, 11:35 PM) [snapback]580912[/snapback]
There really can't be any excuses here.

The facts are that the team had no idea, no focus, no desire and no direction. We put in f*** all and deserved f*** all.

If it were a one off game, then it just be put down to the fates. But these traits are now becoming more frequent.
Something needs to change.

Sounds like they could do with a Manager! blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-21 23:43:38
QUOTE(SramTon @ Feb 21 2009, 11:29 PM) [snapback]580907[/snapback]
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That's not really tailgating in the true sense though, is it? unsure.gif

You haven't met her. She tailgates JCBs.
mortonjag 2009-02-21 23:46:15
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 21 2009, 11:43 PM) [snapback]580915[/snapback]
We've failed to score at all in the last 254 minutes. Now there's a stat. wink.gif

15240000000000000 nanoseconds seems a LOOOOOONG time not to score!
mortonjag 2009-02-22 09:33:47
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Feb 22 2009, 02:59 AM) [snapback]580940[/snapback]
I think if we lose to Clyde away for the rescheduled game then Irons time is truly over.

His time was already over Joe-when Grady arrived!

I couldn't believe the difference-the boys started playing with their hearts on their sleeves for a bit-it still wasn't pretty but we hit a good patch of form. Yesterday the lads looked uninterested. I don't like that symptom. It tells me they may have stopped playing for sheep lips again at this crucial point in our season.

Now here's what Irons needs to do to save his own bacon.

Get the lads to play for him on Saturday, field an attacking side-it was CRAZY having Spoonsy and Wakey up front together yesterday and leaving Grady and LEAFY on the bench- and BEAT the Pars. If he plays conservatively and tries to contain them, hoping for a break we'll get gubbed again, and Rae should definitely fire him BEFORE the Clyde game. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-22 09:36:40
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Feb 22 2009, 12:52 AM) [snapback]580934[/snapback]
His excuse will be -

"I was in London at the time"

Or has a s***ebag already used that one?

Your maturity and intelligence clearly know no bounds.
mortonjag 2009-02-22 09:38:18
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Feb 22 2009, 04:40 AM) [snapback]580949[/snapback]
Disagree. A full stop contributes far more to football than our performance today.

I know what I'd like to ram up Irons' colon.
mortonjag 2009-02-22 09:42:37
QUOTE(GreatKingRat @ Feb 22 2009, 01:14 AM) [snapback]580935[/snapback]
Religion leads to more trouble than alcohol, so I know how I'd rather spend my Sunday afternoons. wink.gif

Why don't you start a thread with that heading? On a global scale you may well be correct. In Great Britain, you are undoubtedly wrong.
mortonjag 2009-02-22 09:44:33 Like two POUFFES peas in a pad pod.
mortonjag 2009-02-22 09:46:39
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 22 2009, 03:11 AM) [snapback]580943[/snapback]
I just thought how ironic that someone trying to create a more positive image for Muslims then goes and cuts his wife's head off blink.gif

Have you ever considered that it could also be described as cutting her body off.

Get yer effin hamework done or ahl cut the body aff yer heid!
mortonjag 2009-02-22 09:49:38
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Feb 22 2009, 03:14 AM) [snapback]580944[/snapback]
Could any foster or adoptive family be any worse?
The, erm, parents, have proven that they aren't anywhere near mature enough to raise a child in any acceptable way, and the grand-parent's have put the argument beyond doubt.

Would you adopt or foster a brat spawned out of wedlock by a pair of under age brain dead benefits cheats?

A SERIOUS question by the way.

Even when you buy a puppy you get to see the pedigree and visit the litter! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-22 10:31:05 'This was a chance for us to get back in touch with the top half of the table and we didn't take it.

I'm disappointed but it wasn't a pretty game and there were few chances'.

Maybe the croupier had it in for you Sheep Lips! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-22 10:32:39
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Feb 22 2009, 09:35 AM) [snapback]580959[/snapback]
I thought Thistle were worthy of thir win based on the 2nd half. My Thitle supporting mate thought Thistle were lucky and we were worthy of a draw at least. It's not the fact we've lost that bothers me, it is our predictable route one style that gets my goat.

We were with a Jags fan too. He said both sides were pure keech!
mortonjag 2009-02-22 10:36:54
QUOTE(cmonaton @ Feb 22 2009, 09:35 AM) [snapback]580958[/snapback]
And I thought I was the only one that hated him so much.Its a pity more don't come out the closet

You are SO correct. It's amazing how many toe the party line until it's too late. I never hated JM-just thought it was long past time for him to go, but it was only when relegation was staring us in the face that the mindless masses turned on him in their droves.

The same will happen over the next two week unless Irons pulls himself out of the mire again. I'd honestly prefer Rae to bin him now.
mortonjag 2009-02-22 10:39:02
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 22 2009, 10:08 AM) [snapback]580973[/snapback]
I'm telling you Frank, I'd see you on there before McGuff any day. laugh.gif
Sorry I didn't get a chance to chat, I met my cousin on the stairs and I've not seen her for ages.

You have a long lost cousin Peter! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-22 10:41:59
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Feb 22 2009, 09:07 AM) [snapback]580953[/snapback]
Happy Birthday to all the above, especially the twins, Princess and Marxist. biggrin.gif Thought i would save buying a card, what with this credit crunch. blush.gif

Princess and Marxist are twins!

Vive la revolution and happy birthday to all! [attachment=5313:sSp_bdayballoons1.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-22 17:58:22
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Feb 22 2009, 02:10 PM) [snapback]581038[/snapback]
I have proof in abundance and I'm not alone in that, there are plenty of others who know what the real situation was like. I wouldn't say me and Mr Martin were best buddies but let me assure you we were on speaking terms. So I knew infinitely more about the clubs financial situation that you ever did during that period

And if AD was so interested in taking over the club, as you would like people to think, then what the hells keeping him. It can't be money, allegedly he's rolling in it, and I'm sure Shoogly must be sick of spending £1000 of his own money every day to keep the club going. He must be quite amenable to somebody coming along and putting their money into Morton and letting him off the hook.

I'll make a wee prediction, AD will not buy Morton Football Club or at least not until they are in the SPL.

You have 'proof in abundance', or so you would like to think laugh.gif . I'd imagine our posters MIGHT give you some credibility if you stopped hiding behind an alias.

What puzzles me is the fact that you purport to know so much-I was convinced you were either Stuart Duncan or Jim McColl because of your obsessive interest in the Trust- yet you plainly have not a clue about AD's involvement with the club TO DATE. All you do is speculate (red type).

Oh-and the pink type-I'm sure it's news to us all that the old fud 'wants off the hook'. Last I heard he was still up there calling the shots as ever!

So here's a challenge Measles. You know who I am.

Put up or shut up, because I'm sick of your yapping and whining, and nobody pays any attention to some anonymous know it all. mad.gif

mortonjag 2009-02-22 18:00:51
QUOTE(Davy B Ton @ Feb 22 2009, 01:09 PM) [snapback]581028[/snapback]
I don't think you needed to sit beside a partick fan to realise that.

We always go to Jags v Ton together. It was good to get the same opinion from the other side.
mortonjag 2009-02-22 18:06:16
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 22 2009, 05:50 PM) [snapback]581083[/snapback]
Childish? He doesn't try hard enough and that is NOT acceptable!

Chris Smith is pish but he isn't lazy. McGuffie has the ability to be a much better player than the one we're seeing and it's his fault more than his manager that he isn't putting in a good shift on a regular basis.

It's you who is being childish by putting the boot into DI in every single thread and the usual stupid name calling and it's tedious. We know he's not great, what are you trying to achieve by shoving it down our throats?

I wouldn't dream of shoving anything down your thoat son, though I've a fair idea where I'd like to plant a size 12 Doc Martens.

'Tedious'-aye that's the usual term trotted out by the weans-I'll give you fucking 'tedious'-Sheep Lips' brand of 'football', and I'll say exactly what I please exactly how I please, and if you don't like it, go and fuck yourself!
mortonjag 2009-02-22 18:12:25
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 22 2009, 06:09 PM) [snapback]581093[/snapback]
I don't like it - and I'm not going to go fuck myself - how do you like that auld yin? biggrin.gif

I'll 'auld yin' you- you young whippersnapper.

BTW are you free tonight-Deego's just stood me up.
mortonjag 2009-02-22 18:17:38
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Feb 22 2009, 05:48 PM) [snapback]581082[/snapback]
Well according to my therapist big man I'm not an alcoholic.

Does he drink more than you? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-22 18:23:15
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 22 2009, 05:34 PM) [snapback]581081[/snapback]
I hate people who undertake you on the inside lane. And those who drive up to a junction too fast. You suddenly see them and instinctly go for the brakes !
Just bad driving on both counts mad.gif

Passing on the inside is perfectly permissible in the situations specified in the Highway Code.

If somebody successfully overtakes you on the inside and moves on ahead of you, you were holding him up. If he had a clear lane to your left in which to pass you, that's where YOU should have been to let HIM pass.

It doesn't matter if you are doing 70 m.p.h. or even 80 m.p.h., for that matter. leave the policing to the police. Often I've been trying to get to urgent calls, only to be held up by outside lane 'Polis' and on many an occasion I've passed on the inside.
mortonjag 2009-02-22 18:23:58
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 22 2009, 05:34 PM) [snapback]581081[/snapback]
I hate people who undertake you on the inside lane. And those who drive up to a junction too fast. You suddenly see them and instinctly go for the brakes !
Just bad driving on both counts mad.gif

Passing on the inside is perfectly permissible in the situations specified in the Highway Code.

If somebody successfully overtakes you on the inside and moves on ahead of you, you were holding him up. If he had a clear lane to your left in which to pass you, that's where YOU should have been to let HIM pass.

It doesn't matter if you are doing 70 m.p.h. or even 80 m.p.h., for that matter. Leave the policing to the police. Often I've been trying to get to urgent calls, only to be held up by outside lane 'Polis' and on many an occasion I've passed on the inside.
mortonjag 2009-02-22 18:25:33
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 22 2009, 05:53 PM) [snapback]581085[/snapback]
Guess who the handsome chap was that he was with? blush.gif

Let me guess-Davie Iron's poodle! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-22 18:55:55
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 22 2009, 06:43 PM) [snapback]581107[/snapback]
Irons'.

I don't like Irons either.

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We have a joust! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-22 18:57:48
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 22 2009, 05:14 PM) [snapback]581078[/snapback]
Care to name them? I spend loads of time in areas like Bradford and Keighley where there are large Muslim communities and have never felt this.

Wear a turban next time Peter! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-22 19:06:08
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Feb 22 2009, 07:01 PM) [snapback]581113[/snapback]
Well, I think you better enlighten the church of Scotland with your findings as on the back of my birth certificate is written ''Baptised in Crawfurdsburn Church 4/11/73'' by Rev Sydney Hoburn Robb with his signature.

I also dont understand why your parents would have you Christened if they don't believe in god, bizarre that, but each to their own.

Proddies universally describe the baptism of infants as 'Christening'.

I was Christened in the East Congregational Church, and as in WDE's case, the birth certificate is endorsed with the words 'I baptised this child' etc.
mortonjag 2009-02-22 19:57:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 22 2009, 07:18 PM) [snapback]581119[/snapback]
Very religious grandparents?

Only way I can explain why I was baptised!

Or, and I wouldn't be surprised, to perhaps get their child in to the good local catholic school? (this one is not applicable in my case...I went to a poor catholic school tongue.gif)

That explains much! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-22 19:59:40
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Feb 22 2009, 07:14 PM) [snapback]581116[/snapback]
I hate so called 'hardmen' on the road. the missus was driving home from work last week and was in the outside lane doing 70 at langbank. This arsehole pulls up on the inside lane making all sorts of gestures then pulls out in front of her and hits the brakes. She honestly does not know what she did wrong.
Im sure the guy was just being a DICK

He obviously was being a prat, but what was your good lady doing in the outside lane if the inside lane was clear?
mortonjag 2009-02-22 20:09:47 All in excellent nick.

£200


I don't know why I can't post a picture on this forum. mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-22 20:16:21
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 22 2009, 07:11 PM) [snapback]581115[/snapback]
Exactly those 2 towns.

Have you ventured into the Asian only ghettos? (There are also white only areas). Up on the hill behind Keighley (large block of flats) has become notorious for race hate, perpetrated by local Asian youths. The town also had a turf war between 2 prominent Asian gangs which resulted in several attacks with machetes and the like. The indigenous population were up in arms with what has gone on in Keighley. I have spent a lot of time in West Yorkshire and have seen it first hand but was completely taken aback by the racism prominent on both sides.

The people of Howarth, rightly or wrongly will not sell their homes to Asians.
Oh aye but they allow them to work in the sweat shop that is the chicken factory.

I got 'lost' (well pissed really) in Bradford looking for my pals house last year, I phoned him and told him what street I was in, he went bananas and told me not to move, within 5 mins he screeched up beside me and told me to 'get the f*** in'. I was oblivious as to what was wrong and he said so high were the tensions that I must have been the first white person to venture there in ages as the normal response would be to attack.

I was also threatened with violence in Moss Side ( no surprise really) for being White and told to promptly get to f*** or I would leave in a box.

There are areas of Glasgow now no go at night for whites, there is a notorious scheme in Dundee which has seen its fair share of racially motivated attacks on Whites (and yesracially motivated attacks on Asians)

The problem seems to be getting worse which each passing generation as each lose the rules passed down through their religion. My wee Asian origin pal in work said he himself feels intimidated by the new breed of Asian gangs hanging around as previously they all tended to look out for one another, now he feels if you’re not with them you’re against them and an attack on him is as likely as anyone else.

We have the BNP peddling their pish, they have organisations not dissimilar to that pressurising decent law abiding Muslims to join their ranks or face the consequences.

What we have is a Government who like to keep their head in the sand and don’t believe its happening. Remember this kind of thing happened in a not too distant country 70 years ago and look the way that ended. By ignoring what is going on we are allowing each side to grow and hatred will build and build.

It HAS to be addressed before it’s too late, if its not already. If we can’t get integration to work it’s all f***ed, and I don’t believe it will work now as grudges are harboured which will be passed down by peers.

It will all end in tears someday. sad.gif


...and it's not helped at all by those 'do gooders' who spin it the way they'd like it to be when in fact they haven't a clue how it really is.

Any perceived white v non white racism is hammered in this country. Does the opposite happen-not on your fuckin' Nelly.

Why?

Well what Polis is going to waste his bloody time when the non-white will 'pull out the race card'.

Ironic but true! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-22 20:19:11
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 22 2009, 08:11 PM) [snapback]581135[/snapback]
Get a photobucket account and upload the pic there.

It will give you linking options under that....copy the one that has [ ] in it at each end and that will post the pic here smile.gif

Cheers Puggs-I already use photobucket, but it's damned odd that you can't just post photos on a 'sell your stuff' forum!

Anyway-if anybody's really interested, they can P.M. me and I'll give full details etc.
mortonjag 2009-02-22 20:21:26
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 22 2009, 08:20 PM) [snapback]581141[/snapback]
Read today that Scotland has the eighth heightest death rate in the world from alcohol related death. We maybe can take 7th place next year if Irons continues in his pursuit of destroying football as a spectator sport.

That'll be the only promotion he ever presides over!
mortonjag 2009-02-22 20:33:34
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 22 2009, 08:20 PM) [snapback]581142[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-02-22 20:37:45
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 22 2009, 08:35 PM) [snapback]581149[/snapback]
Airdrie have to go away to ourselves and Clyde in the last quarter so they'd still be doing well to finish above us by the end of the season. We just need to hope Irons sees he problems and sends out a team ready to sink those hammer-throwers once and for all at Broadwood.

I suspect Sheep Lips will struggle through and escape relegation. He will then be sacked. If not I'm going to have a very unhappy monkey to contend with.
mortonjag 2009-02-22 20:51:13
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 22 2009, 08:36 PM) [snapback]581150[/snapback]
What do you mean it doesn't offer you browse? I just copy the link thing from photobucket in to the posting box.

I want to use a photo on my computer-why should I have to go through Photobucket?
mortonjag 2009-02-22 20:53:00
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 22 2009, 08:12 PM) [snapback]581136[/snapback]
I went to a proper - so proper the heidy was a nun for my first year - one for P6 and 7 wink.gif

Oh dear-I can't imagine being educated by a flock of penguins! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-22 21:03:59
QUOTE(Deego @ Feb 22 2009, 08:57 PM) [snapback]581158[/snapback]
I see what you mean, GKR must have the settings wrong or something. I'm sure he'll sort it.

TY!
mortonjag 2009-02-22 21:31:44
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 22 2009, 08:39 PM) [snapback]581152[/snapback]
I've got no doubt this has happened to you buy I've never seen it nor felt threatened in these places. I'm off to Manchester tomorrow morning for two nights and again I've never came across what you describe. I've came across no-go areas off the Rochdale Road but these are white areas.
I'm neither a do-gooder nor do I have my head up my arse, sorry in the sand. laugh.gif

Nice to know your jobbies are moist Peter!
mortonjag 2009-02-22 21:44:23
QUOTE(bilco @ Feb 22 2009, 09:40 PM) [snapback]581166[/snapback]
says it all when the best player by far is oor centre half Dom.
He has been solid and best by far.
Hate to think how many points we would have lost if not for him blush.gif blush.gif
I honestly think DI will be here until the end of the season then god knows
1. we stay up with couple games to spare he is here for another year.
2. we just make it and no more like last time he is here for another year.
3. we go down or play off blink.gif blink.gif he is here for another year.
4. we WIN the league SACK THE FCKER

I think Mr Irons knows in his inner heart that he will not be managing Greenock Morton next season.
mortonjag 2009-02-22 22:09:13 This!

and specifically this!!!


"That's when the alleged incident happened," says Alexander, before adding, cryptically: "Everybody believes I had a ruckus with Alan Main. A load of rubbish! There was another individual in that dressing-room, but I ain't saying his name. So people want to know the real facts? They're going to have to wait for that one. Hey, there are a lot of other things that went on at that club. I could really open a can of worms. But now is not the time.

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mortonjag 2009-02-22 22:16:34
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 22 2009, 10:05 PM) [snapback]581173[/snapback]
You'll find out just how moist when you're doing your part-time doctor thing in EK Douglas. rolleyes.gif

I'm salivating at the prospect Peter.
mortonjag 2009-02-22 22:17:55
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 22 2009, 10:15 PM) [snapback]581179[/snapback]
mick wadsworth wink.gif

You fair get around Bryan!

Where's that Lucan guy? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-22 22:31:05
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 22 2009, 10:20 PM) [snapback]581182[/snapback]
laugh.gif well grady blames mick wink.gif

...who is Grady's current boss? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-22 22:41:12
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 22 2009, 10:36 PM) [snapback]581185[/snapback]
Iro'n's'''!'

Morphy Richard's! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-22 22:54:29
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Feb 22 2009, 10:46 PM) [snapback]581187[/snapback]
It gives me no pleasure to have bthe board coming round to my point of view.
McGuffie and Masterton are duff, with McGuffie slightly the better of the pair yesterday, don't think I have ever seen a lazier player than Masterton.
Replace these two and free Partalu and we could turn it around.
When I think this management let Millar leave they should be given the bullet.
Wake is another who should be given a free at the end of the season.

But Heigh Ho roll on next saturday

foobs

You want to shoot Shoogly-be my guest! [attachment=5314:sLo_BigBearHug1.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-22 23:19:47
QUOTE(mentalton @ Feb 22 2009, 11:11 PM) [snapback]581194[/snapback]
Aye, and according to the one I had at the council on alcohol neither am I. Like to see him telling my wife that after one of my benders. Ask yourself, is there a possibility I may loose my wife if I continue drinking, if the answer is yes then something is seriously wrong, you may not think you are an alcoholic, if you lift a drink knowing the possible outcome then you are.

It's the old story Mental-by the time a couple goes to marriage guidance the marriage is already fucked-well in 99% of cases, and by the time somebody seeks any kind of 'professional' advice about his drinking it's 99% guaranteed he's an alcoholic.
mortonjag 2009-02-22 23:22:49
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Feb 22 2009, 11:19 PM) [snapback]581195[/snapback]
If that was the case then surely he'd go for broke and get us playing attacking football to see if it changed anything, seen as he'd feel he's got nothing to lose?

That's exactly what you'd expect of somebody with a bit of flair or imagination! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-22 23:41:55
QUOTE(mentalton @ Feb 22 2009, 11:31 PM) [snapback]581200[/snapback]
Spot on mortonjag, call it what you want, problem drinker, alcoholic, whatever, if alcohol is causing you problems when you drink it then you are in trouble and the only answer is not to drink it. Trying to do that is when you find out if you are alcoholic or not, I tried for many years to control it untill I eventually realised i could not, that is the description of an alcoholic, therefor thats what I am. Not had a drink now for years but Im still an alcoholic cos if I start again I wont be able to control it. Mind you, watching the ton for the last couple of weeks would drive anyone to drink.

One game at a time! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-22 23:47:58
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 22 2009, 11:31 PM) [snapback]581199[/snapback]
There have always been no-go areas in Glasgow just as there have been in Greenock. There are no-go areas in most urban conurbations where social deprivation exists. The problem of territorial gangs is hardly new, it's just that it seems to be spiralling out of control in certain areas. Differences in race, nationality, culture, religion, class, etc, will always be used as excuse for violence by thugs and violence begets violence just as surely as action results in reaction.

The majority of violent street crime is caused by unemployed males in in the 16 to 25 age category, many of them belonging to territorial gangs in recognised areas of social deprivation. Relative poverty, ignorance, lack of education and employment opportunities, lack of stable family backgrounds and parental care are all contributory factors in societal breakdown, the same factors that successive governments have failed to deal with.

Phoney Blair told us he would be tough on crime and tough on the causes of crime. It turned out he was soft on crime and completely ignored the causes. Tory Boy Cameron is telling us now that we have a 'broken society'. Gee thanks Mr Cameron, but I think most of us who inhabit the real world knew that already. If appropriate, concerted action is not taken soon the economic recession will accelerate the rate of societal breakdown to very dangerous levels indeed.

In times of trouble people will always look for scapegoats and political extremists can take full advantage.
The politics of multiculturalism has proved to be a disastrous failure. Misguided middle class liberals thought it all terribly chic and progressive to 'celebrate diversity' rather than unaminity, to emphasise difference rather than recognise commonality. Now we don't just have tensions between White and Black Gangs, White and Asian Gangs; now we have Asian v Asian (Hindu v Sikh v Muslim) and Black v Black ( Nigerian v Caribbean v Somali). And of course you can add the East Europeans to the maelstrom. They all have one thing in common though, they're thugs, and thugs need to be dealt with appropriately.

I don't share Barbarossa's philosophy of doom, I think the broken society can be mended if the correct actions are taken. There's still time to start locking the thugs up, still time to stop the hand-out culture and put people back to work, still time to engender citizenship, common humanity and respect between all races and cultures. But we do need to act soon.


An excellent resume Mr Edwards.

One wee hitch-the root cause of the problem is that human beings are c*nts, and there will always be the worst kind of c*nt who is not amenable to any form of 'educative, enabling, or enlightening initiative.

I'd just exterminate them if they failed to respond to their first birching.
mortonjag 2009-02-23 07:34:28
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Feb 23 2009, 12:05 AM) [snapback]581205[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-02-23 07:40:55
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Feb 22 2009, 11:21 PM) [snapback]581197[/snapback]
In the same way that Stevenson is far better than half our squad?

A lot of talk; minimal evidence.

Jenkins is dreadful.

Jenkins can be immense!

QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 23 2009, 12:12 AM) [snapback]581206[/snapback]
That's because Jenkins has had much fewer starts than he should. Irons should drop either of Masterton and McGuffie and play him against Clyde. His dead leg should be healed up by then.

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Will that be at Easter?


mortonjag 2009-02-23 07:43:43
QUOTE(Toby @ Feb 23 2009, 02:27 AM) [snapback]581215[/snapback]
I'm sure most of you are familiar with this phrase, for those who aren't, let me explain.

Over the weekend, a friend of mine banged a bird. Happy days for him, but what delights me is that a mutual friend of us has also rattled her, making two best mates now custard cousins.

Does anyone else share this pleasure with their best mates? I just don't know who to slag here. The guy that got the sloppy seconds, or the other guy because rumour has it that he's hung like a cottage mouse in comparison to his successor's supposedly incredible girth.

Bit of a dilemma, but since I'm the one who's not tapped her, I feel I have to get some sort of joy out of the situation.

Any views and advice for me on taking the piss out of my mates would be greatly appreciated guys smile.gif.

Call them odious little fuckwits? smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 08:18:36
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Feb 23 2009, 07:07 AM) [snapback]581218[/snapback]
What works for some people doesn't for others. I had a problem with alcohol, I've therefore stopped drinking, not had a drink in over a month, I intend staying sober for a considerable time, maybe a year or so; but forever, probably not.

Everyone's circumstances are different.

That's very true WDE.

Alcohol addiction, however, is renowned for beating everything but lifetime abstinence.
mortonjag 2009-02-23 08:41:01 T'would be an idea to be able to post pics on the 'sell your stuff' forum!
mortonjag 2009-02-23 09:06:48
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Feb 23 2009, 08:48 AM) [snapback]581225[/snapback]
I am not syaing I disagree with most of the comments here but in all honesty, we have what barely 3 months left of the season is it? Who do they bring in in the meantime?

How about this for putting a spanner in the works....

Let's say that Irons goes today, how about giving a caretaker role for the rest of the season to say Grady or McManus or even the pair of them together seeing us through to the end?

Is that a possibility? (Personally I would perhaps prefer Grady as he can instill the passion, even from the dugout I feel).

Thoughts anyone?

It is the ideal get out at the moment.

QUOTE(big B @ Feb 23 2009, 08:54 AM) [snapback]581226[/snapback]
I hope not if it were to happen and Irons went we need someone with experience and at this precise moment I cannot think of anybody maybe Alexander but that may bring it's own problems.

We don't need somebody with experience to get the lads motivated again. All we need is to rid the club of Irons' tyranny-he can take his baldy psychologist with him-and the feel good factor will return. I'm sure James Grady could orchestrate a possibly remarkable resurgence before the season's end.
mortonjag 2009-02-23 09:10:53
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Feb 23 2009, 08:58 AM) [snapback]581227[/snapback]
X-Files. What is your strangest experience?
Joining Morton. I was so used to being professional and diciplined at Well but everyone was mental at Cappielow. It was more like a youth club with a table tennis table and a pool table. They even used to play cricket instead of training.

laugh.gif ohmy.gif mad.gif unsure.gif dry.gif sad.gif

One thing about the Rae dynasty is that you're always sure of a good laugh (or greet).

It's common knowledge that training under JM was a complete joke.

It's now common knowledge that training under DI is absolute torture.

Players don't respond very well to either scenario.

Maybe Shoogly will get it right soon! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 09:16:28 Happy birthday! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 09:18:16
QUOTE(tontastic @ Feb 23 2009, 09:16 AM) [snapback]581231[/snapback]
Pictures from Partick vs Thistle are now available from the Tontastic web site at http://www.tontastic.com.

I take it they are all stills! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 09:49:08
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Feb 23 2009, 09:34 AM) [snapback]581236[/snapback]
Arrogance/confidence seems to be part of a successful managers make-up. The fact that we passed on Rowan in favour of Irons speaks volumes about our glorious leader!

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mortonjag 2009-02-23 09:53:01
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 23 2009, 09:47 AM) [snapback]581243[/snapback]
laugh.gif Paartalu is pretty terrible too. I was saying to the lads on Saturday that McGuff, Paartalu and Jenkins MUST have been decent enough players during their time at Gr£tna. Jenkins has been the injured/recovery cycle so could be forgiven but the other two are honestly two of the worst players I've seen in Ton shirts. No skill but worst of all absolutely no fight whatsoever.

You can produce stainless steel from scrap Irons metal, Peter!
mortonjag 2009-02-23 09:57:13
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 22 2009, 12:40 PM) [snapback]581007[/snapback]
i had to get one for my daughter last year and i couldnt believe the cost, think it was the same as an adult renewal, anyway going to Egypt at the beginning of May and hope there isnt a hld up with it!

Thanks for the advice

Enjoy!

Oh I've heard DI has applied for a job as a camel trainer. Apparently you only have to beat fuck out of them and they obey without taking the hump. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 10:04:41
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 23 2009, 12:34 AM) [snapback]581209[/snapback]
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Why are you laughing Edwards? mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 10:07:01
QUOTE(irnbru @ Feb 23 2009, 09:53 AM) [snapback]581249[/snapback]
I dont think thats the case at all. In fact, as a coach he was actually pretty decent.

Not what the players said! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 10:08:42
QUOTE(irnbru @ Feb 23 2009, 10:02 AM) [snapback]581253[/snapback]
So does tactical knowledge and and man management - I'm afraid Ro doesnt have either. Whether DI does is still up for debate but I'd still pick Irons over Alexander now.

Where-at Wednesday afternoon's WRI meeting?
mortonjag 2009-02-23 10:11:43
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Feb 23 2009, 10:03 AM) [snapback]581254[/snapback]
huh.gif For once my old mate MJ I actually find myself allowing you to agree with me! laugh.gif

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Believe it or not-I've suggested in several posts that Grady's arrival was a BAD thing because without that, sheep lips would be signing on in the Dumfries Burroo right now.
mortonjag 2009-02-23 10:16:13
QUOTE(irnbru @ Feb 23 2009, 10:11 AM) [snapback]581259[/snapback]
No, on here and amongst other Morton fans who don't have tunnel vision or selective reading.

Point of information:

The club is yet again perilously balanced on the edge of the relegation precipice. Perhaps you and your wide eyed and broad minded cohorts have lost a little focus. Help is at hand. Just listen to Jaggy! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 10:18:29
QUOTE(irnbru @ Feb 23 2009, 10:08 AM) [snapback]581258[/snapback]
Well for a start the players had a better first touch and at least looked for a pass rather then constantly hitting long balls. This comes from training and working on this.

And how can judge coaching ability from a warm up, which unless you go to games an hour early, only see 20 min a week of?

I know for a fact that the players both enjoyed his training and found it to be hard work. His lack of tactics, etc were his downfall not his coaching (which is respected by many involved at a high level of football).

Source please!
mortonjag 2009-02-23 10:26:34 I am entirely convinced that I could pick the side for Saturday and guarantee a victory. Here's my method.

Put all the regular first team players names in a hat and pull out the first sixteen (adjusted for two goalies if required).

Sort them into defenders, midfielders, and attack-to hell with formations-the squad's flexible enough.

Meet them in the Norseman on Friday night-buy them all ONE drink-wish them good luck and tell them Irons will NEVER darken the door of Scapa again. unsure.gif

mortonjag 2009-02-23 10:31:52
QUOTE(irnbru @ Feb 23 2009, 10:24 AM) [snapback]581272[/snapback]
I read the interview but I also know he had unparalled finances in the leagues and had Premier League standard players playing in the second division.

He simply got lucky at Gretna and there is a reason he struggled to get jobs before or after them. People talk in football and his reputation as a poor manager is well know.

He was a great player and one of my all time favourites but unfortunaltely this doesnt make him a good manager.
For what its worth I dont think things are great at all but he has saved us from relegation and managed to turn things around for a while at least.

He's managed to give the team a solid spine with the players available but for some reason this hasnt been the case.

I was all for him going after our start to the season and am verging towards that feeling again but am willing to see how things go over the next month as I think he's deserved that chance. He seems to be doing his best to undo this in the last few weeks though...

That's exactly the opposite of the impression I've been getting from my informants!
mortonjag 2009-02-23 10:34:47
QUOTE(irnbru @ Feb 23 2009, 10:28 AM) [snapback]581275[/snapback]
I've spoke to a few of the players about this and it has been reported in the press that this has been the case.
Do you have a source?

I have several up to date sources.

What are the players you spoke to telling you about last Tuesday night, and about Firhill between 5p.m. and 6 p.m. on Saturday? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 10:39:19
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 23 2009, 10:22 AM) [snapback]581271[/snapback]
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QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 23 2009, 10:34 AM) [snapback]581280[/snapback]
There is an area of the West End where I wouldn't advise you to visit. tongue.gif

Indeed-all who enter the gates of Feart Matilda-prepare to meet thy doom! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 10:42:34
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Feb 23 2009, 09:59 AM) [snapback]581251[/snapback]

What an innovative idea-and introduce him to the Manager before he meets the squad. Sheep lips is into hugs in a BIG way! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 11:16:42
QUOTE(irnbru @ Feb 23 2009, 10:59 AM) [snapback]581301[/snapback]
What do you mean by this? I meant that he's undoing the good run we went on and time he created for himself after being a game or two from the sack?

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I've read your post again-we are indeed on the same theme! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 11:19:17 Shimmin is in a class apart from the rest.
mortonjag 2009-02-23 11:24:13
QUOTE(irnbru @ Feb 23 2009, 11:03 AM) [snapback]581306[/snapback]
How can I have up to date sources about a manager who was sacked a year ago?

What did happen on Tuesday and Thursday?

Do they live in the past?

My sources have memories AND are up to date. I only asked about Tuesday and Saturday to find out if your sources had the same information as mine! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 11:44:56
QUOTE(irnbru @ Feb 23 2009, 11:31 AM) [snapback]581330[/snapback]
The players I know have now left Morton so unfortunately I dont have any more info! sad.gif

Fair enough, and we could argue the relative merits and demerits of JM and DI all day. Jim had a very casual attitude to coaching-that is a fact. Some players may well have enjoyed that-indeed it may have got more out of them, but others still at Cappielow have described his training as 'a joke'.

Irons comes over as a thoroughly unpleasant character who has disenchanted himself with the majority at Morton. It's ultimately very sad that his lack of self perception may be the undoing of the Club this season. Those at Firhill on Saturday must have noticed that nobody was 'going the extra mile'. Players have their own way of making a point without actually throwing matches. It seems to me that we're almost back to that crossroads where we stood after the humping at Airdrie.

Ultimately I don't give a toss how we avoid relegation, but unless Rae can GUARANTEE that DI will bring home the bacon, I'd prefer to see change before it's too late.
mortonjag 2009-02-23 11:48:44
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 23 2009, 11:46 AM) [snapback]581335[/snapback]
Chris Smith. eek.gif

In the same vein then-Jim McAlister biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 11:52:38
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Feb 23 2009, 11:47 AM) [snapback]581336[/snapback]
I don't see why not, to be honest? It has to be said, I wouldn't adopt at all, but if I ever did then I think such a child would be the best "pick", for want of a better word.

Unless, of course, your suggesting that such characteristics are genetic!

Well it does occur to me that thickos generally breed thickos, and I'd be disinclined to adopt a thicko-but then I'm a bit of a snob.
mortonjag 2009-02-23 12:47:42
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Feb 23 2009, 12:06 PM) [snapback]581347[/snapback]
I knew the Killie game would be the one mentioned when referring to the point about not celebrating us scoring - the only game that was shown on TV coincidentally. rolleyes.gif

Playing against an SPL team, it's not that hard to see why he never celebrated. There was every chance of Killie pulling a goal or 2 back. Did he celebrate McGowan's goal which pretty much sealed it? If memory serves me right, he did.

PS I love how mortonjag is trying to make out that something happened on Tuesday night - y'know, for attention - and no one is buying it. laugh.gif laugh.gif

rolleyes.gif You mean nobody is DENYING it son.

QUOTE(irnbru @ Feb 23 2009, 12:10 PM) [snapback]581348[/snapback]
I think Jim would be a very good coach as part of a bigger set up and working underneath someone. Indeed he might have been a better manager if he worked with an experience assistant but thats another debate. I think maybe he didnt stand up for himself and wanted to keep the players onside but this was never going to work.

One thing that can be said for McInally that Irons has never done is that he would admit to making mistakes and trying to deflect blame from his players. This is something all managers should do, especially those still classed as young managers. If you dont learn from mistakes then they are going to keep happeningand this seems to whats happening with Irons. I think he does have some good qualities but maybe these are being undermined by his personality or opinion of himself.

I agree that JM tried to keep everybody onside all of the time-particularly the Chairman who loved him to bits for it. Mr Irons has so much to learn if he's ever going to become a successful manager. The first lesson is to know himself.
mortonjag 2009-02-23 12:52:41
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 23 2009, 12:42 PM) [snapback]581362[/snapback]
Not the way to go if we want SPL football, thank goodness its not all down to DDF anymore then although he is still a tightwad.

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mortonjag 2009-02-23 13:02:30
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Feb 23 2009, 12:00 PM) [snapback]581344[/snapback]
On what grounds? You surely don't genuinely believe that intelligence is a genetic thing...?

Perhaps you should define intelligence first. I stated that thickos tend to breed thickos-not inevitably but that is the trend.

QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Feb 23 2009, 12:22 PM) [snapback]581353[/snapback]
Everyone has the capability of being intelligent just its a matter of question whether they choose to be it or not.

If only it was so simple!

QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 23 2009, 12:52 PM) [snapback]581368[/snapback]
i read a study last year which concluded that adopted children overwhelmingly end up in the same socio-economic bracket as the adoptive parents rather than the naturals. there was also evidence that iq was closer to the naturals, where there were differences. so unless you're the type of man who would judge a child on their ability to score highly on iq tests then any child you adopt will only disappoint if you're a s***e parent.

Do you have a link-I'd genuinely be interested to assess the study.
mortonjag 2009-02-23 13:21:31
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 23 2009, 01:08 PM) [snapback]581372[/snapback]
I believe that nurture is more important than nature in shaping character and personality. High intelligence is by no means the most valuable quality in a human being. There are a lot of highly intelligent b*****ds out there.

I agree totally with that. Psychologists are pretty universally agreed that it's a mix of both-they just can't work out how much of each.

So-do you want a well adjusted thicko, a psychopathic genius, or somebody like Mortonjag? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 13:26:26
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 23 2009, 01:21 PM) [snapback]581379[/snapback]
That may be true but I've seen zero evidence of it. If Jenks can't force his way into the team ahead of our current players then he must be s***e!

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If only it was so easy. First you require the blessing of Shoogly, followed by an endorsement from Jesus.
mortonjag 2009-02-23 13:34:11
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Feb 23 2009, 01:21 PM) [snapback]581381[/snapback]
I'll try, if you define "thickness" first. smile.gif

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That's cheating.

Somebody is perceived as being 'thick' when he seems incapable of using his brain to his own advantage.

Thick people are often extremely winsome. In my professional experience I've often found that dealing with 'bright' people is less pleasant than dealing with life's simple souls.
mortonjag 2009-02-23 13:42:24
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 23 2009, 01:33 PM) [snapback]581385[/snapback]
That may well be true but surely if Jenks was THAT good he'd be starting every week irrespective of his relationship with Irons. His career's still to take off with us and I'm as disappointed as the next man by that. mad.gif

The whole thing's a mess as far as I see it. For a start Irons puts his own ego ahead of the Club's interests-that is the nub of the problem, and that is why he should be 'out the door' before it's too late.

In Jenkins case it's a lose, lose situation. He's never really been given a chance to come back to full match fitness after his sneaky wee hernia operation, and when he has been fielded, I reckon far too much has been expected of him.

He's potentially the best all round midfielder at the club. Of that I have absolutely no doubt.
mortonjag 2009-02-23 13:58:35
QUOTE(big B @ Feb 23 2009, 01:55 PM) [snapback]581393[/snapback]
I will say it again Grady is not the answer that will be like going down the Jim McInally road no experience we need somebody with a decent c.v. in management and set our sights higher. Why not try and entice someone like although I am not saying him but someone in the mould of Jimmy Nicholl, we may have to pay that type of manager a decent wage by if we are serious about going to the SPL that is the sort of calibre of manager we should be looking at not James Grady.

Many experienced Managers are still absolute keech. Experience per se is not everything. I'd certainly have Grady rather than Irons for the rest of this season. After that we could start afresh.
mortonjag 2009-02-23 14:07:04
QUOTE(Toby @ Feb 23 2009, 01:59 PM) [snapback]581396[/snapback]
http://www.greenockmorton.org/forum/index....e=show&st=0

Right, it's now two weeks since the "odious little fvckwit" debate died a death, and I'm not wanting to open up any old wounds about it with the GMSC.

My gripe now is the inconsistency shown by our moderator, GreatKingRat.

GKR, you accepted that my warning was, in in your words maybe a bit harsh and pointed out that you're all for majority rules.

Sean's poll produced results in my favour of 58.49% to 41.51% against i.e. the majority has voted in my favour and since there has been no activity on the thread since 8th February, I think it's pretty fair to consider these results as final.

However, my warning stands. Surely using your logic it's time for a climb down going by the standards you have set yourself. I eagarly await your response smile.gif.

Edited for spelling.


Don't let it upset you. The Moderators are barely only human. At first I was raging when I discovered that I'm on a 40% warning level which I knew absolutely nothing about, but I now regard it as a distinction achieved by few! laugh.gif


mortonjag 2009-02-23 14:12:31
QUOTE(Malt @ Feb 23 2009, 02:06 PM) [snapback]581399[/snapback]
If the job was available it would be the usual names linked with it -

John Robertson, Jim Duffy, Alexander, a dream team of Andre Boe and Andy Ritchie and Alan Moore.
Peter Cormack
Dave McPherson
Cowboy
Joe McLaughlin
Jim McInally
Davie Irons?

Who's next on Dougie's appointment list!!!

His psychiatrist? biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 14:29:41 unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 14:46:51
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 23 2009, 02:44 PM) [snapback]581407[/snapback]
I agree with you

And as for the last bit; again, possibly true but until he gets a run in the team we can only speculate.

Don't forget that Irons is twenty years older than most of those boys. Jenkins is one of the few who has the baws to stand up to sheep lips.

He who must be obeyed must be sacked Rae. Are you listening! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 14:47:48
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Feb 23 2009, 02:45 PM) [snapback]581408[/snapback]
This is going too far.

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mortonjag 2009-02-23 14:51:48
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Feb 23 2009, 02:50 PM) [snapback]581411[/snapback]
There is no need for the countless topics on whats wrong with the team, afterall we will be stuck with them unless Rae decides enough is enough. Can't see that happening but would be better to merge all the topics together.

What would be your chosen heading?

May I suggest 'Time to go Irons'?

Have you applied for a Moderator's post BTW? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 14:56:27
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 23 2009, 02:51 PM) [snapback]581413[/snapback]
If he does well at Mypa then I wouldn't be at all against this.

Although I agree whole heartedly that Rae's record appointing managers has been a major black mark against his time in charge, I do believe that at the time they were appointed
both Cormack and Cowboy were perfectly reasonable appointments and the best available candidates. Cormack I think suffered for coaching inadequate players at the time of administration, and Cowboy, well, we all know and don't know what happened there!

Four and a half years have elapsed since Cowboy was fired.

Four and a half years is a LONG, LONG time to watch absolute shite being played.
mortonjag 2009-02-23 15:00:46
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 23 2009, 02:57 PM) [snapback]581417[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI don't see me, but am interested to know who looks like 'me'!
mortonjag 2009-02-23 15:04:07
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Feb 23 2009, 02:56 PM) [snapback]581416[/snapback]
Why not have a debate on who would be a better candidate for the job is Irons gets the chop. No point saying on yer bike Irons without suggesting a reasonable replacement.

And no, I have not. Just soon as you come on its another dig at a player/the manager, why not make one big thread instead of countless mini ones.

Other than I will wait for the next 5 games before I say time to go Irons.

What the hell is the point in debating a replacement if sheep lips is going to be a fixture till relegation anyway?

'Time to go' is a far more relevant question in my opinion. I believe he should have gone after the farce at Airdrie, and I firmly believe he should go NOW!
mortonjag 2009-02-23 15:07:19
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 23 2009, 02:10 PM) [snapback]581402[/snapback]
Meanwhile Davie Irons dry humps anyone he subs off and he's not exactly the next Trapattoni, is he?

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Or just pulls them off the old fashioned way!
mortonjag 2009-02-23 15:15:42
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Feb 23 2009, 03:06 PM) [snapback]581423[/snapback]
Jesus the way people go on here they expect someone of similar stature to Jose Mourinho, we are a first division club dangerously dangling near the relegation spots. Does not look a decent prospect to any investors or managers who could probably manage a team in better state than ourselves.

Im not happy with whats going on as the games are boring as f*** but making a topic saying time to go will not help, its upto Rae what he does. I want someone who doesnt take s*** from players and makes them earn their wages, someone similar with the same characteristics of alex ferguson and someone with the footballing brain of Arsene Wenger. That is my ideal manager, can not name any of the top of my head but if i find a decent manager to name I will name him.

Well-bless my cotton socks-where have I been all season? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Feb 23 2009, 03:07 PM) [snapback]581426[/snapback]
As it has been stated elsewhere, the board surely reads this forum. If replacements were suggested who knows? No, instead we all sit and moan and hope Rae gets it right.

Hi-Board you shower of gutless wimps-are you reading me-testing-testing-one two three---Board...


BOARD

Where are those c*nts?


BOARD

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mortonjag 2009-02-23 15:18:14
QUOTE(Eagle Eye @ Feb 23 2009, 03:15 PM) [snapback]581433[/snapback]
Admission time guys........
I've not been to a Morton game since the first away game to Stirling last season, firstly this was because of the way the team were playing under McInally, and what I deemed negative tactics on the day.

I promised not to return until he was gone.

I was uninspired by the choice of replacement in Irons and once again refused to go to games, as I felt Jim Duffy would have more of a presence, and would be able to sort out the on, and off the field mess.

Sadly, Irons has proved me right - and I fear it'll take some doing to sort out his mess, yes there are some positives to take from his time in charge - Shimmin for example......

Overall it's time for change, Irons must go, replaced by a more experienced man.

Hopefully, soon so that I can return to the terraces

Time to go then-we have two votes! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 15:21:26
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 23 2009, 03:06 PM) [snapback]581424[/snapback]
Aye, MY messageboard. MIIIINNNNEEEE!!!!!!

POUFFE
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mortonjag 2009-02-23 15:30:03
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Feb 23 2009, 03:17 PM) [snapback]581435[/snapback]
No wonder people get pissed off with you.

They do! unsure.gif

QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Feb 23 2009, 03:26 PM) [snapback]581439[/snapback]
You're wasting your time Joe. It's far more fun complaining all the time (or coming out with childish name calling in the case of some people) than actually discussing any managers that could improve the situation. The reason for this is the severe lack of realistic candidates.

Correct-Mephistopheles-Morton fans have to get amusement somewhere-those who at least GO to the games! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 15:33:25
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Feb 23 2009, 03:31 PM) [snapback]581441[/snapback]
Are you implying I don't go to the games? Curious comment even by your standards.

How can you possibly go if you spend your life in hell-oh wait..........erm... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 15:36:48
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 23 2009, 03:32 PM) [snapback]581442[/snapback]
Seriously, does some geezer actually own this? Is it that Tontastic bloke?

I think Mr Rae owns the forum!
mortonjag 2009-02-23 15:39:08
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Feb 23 2009, 03:36 PM) [snapback]581446[/snapback]
For once, you're on the money.

A serious question then. I agree that a suitable replacement may not be obvious at this moment, but several have suggested Grady as caretaker..

Do you think it's time for DI to go, and if not, why not?
mortonjag 2009-02-23 15:43:53
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 23 2009, 03:41 PM) [snapback]581451[/snapback]
Mad Dr Mentaljag must apply for the job, after he's installed as Chairman of course. That way he can interview himself. laugh.gif

Stop deflecting Edwards or you'll get a good skelp.

Time to go?
mortonjag 2009-02-23 15:47:34
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 23 2009, 03:11 PM) [snapback]581429[/snapback]
Wroclaw is a cracking place. smile.gif

Like Krakow?
mortonjag 2009-02-23 15:48:03
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 23 2009, 03:11 PM) [snapback]581429[/snapback]
Wroclaw is a cracking place. smile.gif

Like Krakow?
mortonjag 2009-02-23 15:49:21
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 23 2009, 03:47 PM) [snapback]581463[/snapback]
Naw. I'm sure the Chairman takes an interest in everything he owns.

Still? I admire his stamina!
mortonjag 2009-02-23 15:54:34
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Feb 23 2009, 03:47 PM) [snapback]581460[/snapback]
If a serious contender for the job was available then I'd be all for Irons getting moved on. I don't see why Grady is seen as someone who has the answers though, unless he's got some coaching track record I'm not aware of? For every player that successfully transferred a winning mentality to management, there's another five that were unable to take the step.

I think folk sometimes get too tied up playing 'Football Manager'. What we desperately need between now and May is motivation of a squad which can't be changed in terms of bodies. As you very well know Irons was offski had it not been for Grady's influence. Now the former is back to his old tricks and the squad's losing the will to win.

QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 23 2009, 03:47 PM) [snapback]581461[/snapback]
'Time to go' isn't a question. dry.gif
Moron ! dry.gif

'Moron' isn't a sentence, dearie!

Time to go?

Perhaps Arsenal fans don't really care! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 15:57:23
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 23 2009, 03:51 PM) [snapback]581469[/snapback]
Will shares be issued proportionately based on the number of posts ? MJ to rule? crying.gif crying.gif crying.gif

I don't want a share in this bloody rag. I do my best to ruin it every day, and folk still post!
mortonjag 2009-02-23 16:10:29
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Feb 23 2009, 04:00 PM) [snapback]581476[/snapback]
I've never played football manager. That seems like a very simplistic answer - motivation is a huge part of it but what about tactics, awareness of the oppositon threat etc etc. If motivation alone is enough, there's a black guy in lycra on GMTV that could do the job. wink.gif

I wasn't specifically referring to you. What's annoying me at the moment is that a large number of posters are still having a go at individual players, suggesting different formations, and rabbiting on about tactics when the real problem is FAR bigger than all of those put together.

If the Manager is unable to learn from his previous mistakes and persists in alienating his squad, he deserves to go.

Note that I'm NOT suggesting players should be indisciplined-far from it-but what's been going on behind the scenes goes a lot deeper than a couple of recalcitrant prima donnas thumbing their noses at the Boss.
mortonjag 2009-02-23 16:13:18
QUOTE(cmonaton @ Feb 23 2009, 04:03 PM) [snapback]581478[/snapback]
Yer all a right fickle bunch.ffs whit next.

Collins sooks Shoogly's arse and lands the job? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 16:15:38
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 23 2009, 04:02 PM) [snapback]581477[/snapback]
The bored wouldn't be the same without you. laugh.gif

mad.gif

I tried to give Jag a rest. Wee mouton was a lovely wee bundle of wool-God roast his soul-and that evil Rat banned him!
mortonjag 2009-02-23 16:19:47
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Feb 23 2009, 04:15 PM) [snapback]581491[/snapback]
Ok, I'll bite... smile.gif

What has been going on behind the scenes recently that goes a lot deeper than a couple of recalcitrant prima donnas thumbing their noses at the Boss?

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I wasn't fishing-honestly. It astonishes me that Irons' negative influence on the dressing room is not more common knowledge.

Ask Stevie Masterton what happened on Tuesday night.

Ask Alistair Donald about the comings and goings at Firhill post match on Saturday.

Jag is not into revealing sources.
mortonjag 2009-02-23 22:27:57
QUOTE(irnbru @ Feb 23 2009, 04:21 PM) [snapback]581505[/snapback]
No one is looking for sources just what you have been told...

If I were to disclose the details I would betray the confidence daftie!

QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Feb 23 2009, 06:11 PM) [snapback]581559[/snapback]
Time to go? YES and NOW
Replacement Alan Moore, said he wanted the job last time but didn't apply because he felt a loyalty to Stirling Albion and wouldn't leave them fighting relegation.

Always has his team punching way above their weight and would definitely have even our present squad fighting for promotion.

Players would be scared to go back into the dressing room if they hadn't given their all.

Isn't a "Yes" man......................................or is that a problem?

As suggested by myself more than once in the past to be rubbished by the usual clots! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(irnbru @ Feb 23 2009, 06:22 PM) [snapback]581562[/snapback]
Hes not doing that well this season and I'd guess his budget is one of the highest in the second division?


He's doing remarkably well-GIVEN THE RESOURCES-that's been Moore's hallmark.

Rae, on the other hand has poured money hand over fist down a stinking stank by employing useless turds he's believed he could manipulate.

This one's bitten him in the bum.
mortonjag 2009-02-23 22:40:53
QUOTE(.:BrIDo:. @ Feb 23 2009, 07:00 PM) [snapback]581575[/snapback]
lol.

Starting to think, bar morton winning back to back league titles and reaching the last 16 of the champions league, folk on here will keep making these threads.

Stop-it obviously doesn't work! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(xj2006 @ Feb 23 2009, 07:07 PM) [snapback]581578[/snapback]
give him to the end of the season

that is what will happen anyway.. no way is Rae going to try and install a new manager at this stage of the season (unless we where rock bottom)

its about cost too... sack him and pay the rest of the contract off?

remember its not just Irons.. Derek Collins would probably need to be paid off too.

It won't happen until at least the end of the season.. and even then he may still be safe.

Shoogly outed! laugh.gif

QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Feb 23 2009, 07:24 PM) [snapback]581590[/snapback]
Typical over reaction again.

Thistle are challenging for promotion and give us our first defeat of the year. Let's sack the manager.

Looking at the next 5 fixtures, I reckon we could probably expect to win 4 of the 5 (2 v Clyde, v Airdrie, v QotS) which would steer us clear of relegation. I am concerned just now but we CAN still finish a good bit away from the bottom - sacking the manager at this stage won't help anything - and he should get until the end of the season at least then we can look at how much progress has been made (and no matter what anyone on here says, progress HAS been made).

It's far from an over reaction sonny boy-but then you're only posting that to get your count up I'd imagine. Not something Jag recommends! rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 23 2009, 08:22 PM) [snapback]581619[/snapback]
"Unbeaten in 2009," jesus wept.

The QoS performance was decent. The one at Dundee, we had one good chance but it was otherwise a poor game. The Livi game? Well, let's just say Irons' "make Morton tough to beat" gambit was shown up big-time. The Saintees game, I was at, but I don't even remember. The Thistle game was absolutely dreadful in every respect. Wow, four points from a possible fifteen, including giving away a two goal lead right at the death when we play spoiler tactics for entire matches. Why are people holding these results/performances up as some kind of achievement?

Irons is hopeless and the squad is a mess. Time for him to go. Maybe he can give McGuffie a lift while he's at it.

So obvious to anybody with peripheral monocular vision. Even Rae wants shot of him!

QUOTE(IainMorton @ Feb 23 2009, 10:22 PM) [snapback]581680[/snapback]
Some of the pish spouted on here is unbelievable sometimes.

If pish hits you in the eye it becomes very believable Iain-and Irons is PISH! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 22:45:08
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 23 2009, 07:55 PM) [snapback]581609[/snapback]
Well that's us offside a lot more then wink.gif

That's is NOT funny.

QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 23 2009, 10:14 PM) [snapback]581677[/snapback]
Why is the hang up with formation surely until the manager can motivate his players then the chances of a turn around are minimal .

We have too many performing below par and the tactics employed are akin to an amateur team , for all Irons ranting and raving when he needs to make a decisive decision we are left waiting until the consultation period is exhausted and then we get the substitution .

So how many players will it take to rectify the situation come the summer and would you trust Irons to get it right.

EXACTLY
mortonjag 2009-02-23 22:49:46
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 23 2009, 04:34 PM) [snapback]581523[/snapback]
Interaction between nature and nurture. As an example you may be genetically capable of attaing a height of 6' 6" but if you're fed a poor diet you will not attain that height. Ditto for intelligence and a stimulating environment, use of extended language codes, books etc in the house.
Amen.
Again amen.
Is Mortonjag the well adjusted genius or the pschopathic thicko? unsure.gif

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Mortonjag inherited an extremely high intelligence Mr Bam.

After that it just got better and better! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 22:50:42 Beat the brats-they deserve it! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 22:53:24
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Feb 23 2009, 09:08 PM) [snapback]581642[/snapback]
If you care about it so much, then don't come on the forum. Whoever runs it must be a saint. rolleyes.gif They do all this for nothing, and all they get is moaning and whining.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

...and a big stiffy every time they warn some poor cunt for nothing! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 22:59:53
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Feb 23 2009, 09:38 PM) [snapback]581659[/snapback]
Well what does the term protestant mean? I protest to the teaching and faith of the holy roman catholic church? So what I mean is someone who you might class as a protestant would refer to themselves as the like of an anglican, a luthorian, a member of the church of england/scotland/ united church of canada( i dont think the term protestant is used outside the uk much to be honest). IMHO 'protestant' is a word latched onto by people who dont actually go to a church of the above mentioned but something people especially in scotland/ NI would call themselves a) if their not a catholic(not counting athiests and that) or cool.gif if they support a certain football team.

Christianity is split into two-Roman Catholics-the true Christians who still believe in virgin births, celibacy before marriage, monogamy, no wanking, papal infallibility, Celtic etc., and the rest who are a motley mix of Catholic hating scumbags and invariably support Rangers.
mortonjag 2009-02-23 23:03:16 A wee girl was knocked down and killed near here yesterday-by a drunk driver!
mortonjag 2009-02-23 23:04:54
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Feb 23 2009, 10:48 PM) [snapback]581692[/snapback]
If that guy says it, then I believe it.

Good GOD-that's Allan Moore! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 23:06:14
QUOTE(BMC @ Feb 23 2009, 04:07 PM) [snapback]581480[/snapback]
Club have kindly rearranged this for me so off the market. cool.gif

What was the surcharge? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 23:16:25
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Feb 23 2009, 11:08 PM) [snapback]581709[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif Brilliant!

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In that case, I wish Irons would fcking hit you in the eye-or anywhere for that matter. rolleyes.gif

If that's what's needed to turn the overbearing bully into a successful Morton Manager, my child, I shall endure the martyrdom with immense pleasure.
mortonjag 2009-02-23 23:18:55
QUOTE(Capuan @ Feb 23 2009, 10:57 PM) [snapback]581699[/snapback]
tut tut tut... that'll you be on 50% now...

CLYPE! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 23:20:49
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 23 2009, 11:12 PM) [snapback]581713[/snapback]
I would rather lock the hoodies in a room with our pompous politicians at least then they would be at least contributing something to society.

Assassinate all politicians.
mortonjag 2009-02-23 23:22:19
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 23 2009, 11:19 PM) [snapback]581718[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-02-23 23:26:42 I've never in my life heard the term 'Custard Cousins'.

I remember them though.

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mortonjag 2009-02-23 23:37:48
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 23 2009, 10:43 PM) [snapback]581690[/snapback]
Salmond and Clinton in US talks



Salmond being pictured with the world's most powerful woman will have Brown choking on his cornflakes

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Indeed-even that one eyed humourless twat will have a titter at the kilted buffoon.
mortonjag 2009-02-23 23:39:53
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 23 2009, 11:38 PM) [snapback]581730[/snapback]
By the smile on Eck's face maybe Hillary's just given him a Monica.

I thought he took it up the erse! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 23:41:50
QUOTE(gorkir @ Feb 23 2009, 11:27 PM) [snapback]581725[/snapback]
I think the reporter says it all - that it was Alexanders own opinion - we have yet to hear the other side.
Although I do think this guy Wadsworth has a lot to do with the problems Gretna had at the end.

Nowt to do with Broke Millstone then? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 23:43:50
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 23 2009, 11:28 PM) [snapback]581726[/snapback]
Mortonjag in scat porn scandal. Shabada-do-wah-beep-bop-bah-shoogly-doo.

Don't be disgusting. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 23:45:44
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 23 2009, 11:42 PM) [snapback]581733[/snapback]
Why would Broon by choking? Did his man Milliband not meet her weeks ago?
Bawheid's obviously away over to Trump's to get his bung for the new gowf course.

..and a much bigger one for Sturgeon's gob! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 23:47:30
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 23 2009, 11:31 PM) [snapback]581727[/snapback]
Dr Mentaljag, the board's new spokesman on ecumenical matters. laugh.gif

This new dog we've got does INCREDIBLE farts.
mortonjag 2009-02-23 23:49:05
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 23 2009, 11:45 PM) [snapback]581738[/snapback]
I'm hungry and fancy a pre-bed munch. Any ideas?

PS Just remembered I have no bread in the hoose and I can't be arsed going out so no melted cheese on toast.

Edit to add: If this topic is changed into a religious and/or political debate then I'll probably be a little mad. Not a lot, but a little.

Scrambled eggs with a dash of chilli sauce-washed down with a pint of voddy.
mortonjag 2009-02-23 23:50:05
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 23 2009, 11:44 PM) [snapback]581736[/snapback]
Apologies plookheid.

Who he? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 23:51:06
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 23 2009, 11:45 PM) [snapback]581737[/snapback]
This is probably the most bizarre thing I've ever seen in my entire life, and I saw Dracula once.

There may have been some sexual innuendo.
mortonjag 2009-02-23 23:52:59
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 23 2009, 11:50 PM) [snapback]581744[/snapback]
you can say chapel all you want chris but it's a term used in scotland and norn iron and - nowhere else - in general to describe a catholic "church".

"chapel" is a place where celtic fans pretend they go and rangers fans want to burn down. in short - c***s the lot of them smile.gif
i f***ing hate the west of scotland take on christianity. f***ing thick c***s who ally their "beliefs" to a school, a colour and a neddy fitba team. c***s.

FTOF FTOF FTOF FTOF FTOF FTOF FTOF.......

ATPAKBATQ? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 23:53:59
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 23 2009, 11:51 PM) [snapback]581746[/snapback]
Don't be disgusting. dry.gif

You have a vivid imagination! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-23 23:55:03
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 23 2009, 11:52 PM) [snapback]581748[/snapback]
Hmm, that's not bad actually. I have no chilli sauce but I have a jar of chillies. No vodka though, it's a school night.

Beat the brats first.
mortonjag 2009-02-24 00:07:30 Many happy returns to you, Red Sox (where ARE you? unsure.gif ) my friend Ropi, et alia!
mortonjag 2009-02-24 00:09:35
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 24 2009, 12:07 AM) [snapback]581757[/snapback]
If Jim McInally is God's gift to coaching then how on earth can Stewart Greacen's form in the last 8 months of his tenure be coherently explained? The guy could barely stand up to a challenge FFS...

Maybe he just lost his form for a while! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-24 00:11:36
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 24 2009, 12:10 AM) [snapback]581760[/snapback]
And strength and defensive ability.

..and virginity and a few ginger pubes......
mortonjag 2009-02-24 00:18:56
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 24 2009, 12:14 AM) [snapback]581763[/snapback]
Save it for your 'captivating' memoirs.

The story of my cellar, SPARROT ,will bear no mention of Greenock Morton unless an unfulfilled ambition is realised.
mortonjag 2009-02-24 00:32:34
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 24 2009, 12:28 AM) [snapback]581767[/snapback]
Is that ambition related to incorrect comma spacing?

Enough cheek or I may punctuate your colon with ejaculation marks.
mortonjag 2009-02-24 00:35:18
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 24 2009, 12:27 AM) [snapback]581765[/snapback]
Who has had zero, cero, nil, no first team appearances.

Ho.vis

Hovis.

Brown bread.
mortonjag 2009-02-24 00:37:02 No reasonable offer refused.

Can deliver.
mortonjag 2009-02-24 07:54:43
QUOTE(hayfever @ Feb 24 2009, 07:13 AM) [snapback]581785[/snapback]
Exactly. I get the impression there's a general lack of professionalism throughout the club, it seems to be run by numpties from the local area rather than sourcing proper people who have proper qualifications in the appropriate field. And then they give their mate a job in the shop, the turnstile, etc, and the cycle continues... Well, if you pay peanuts etc

Harsh? Maybe. Prove me wrong Morton.

Mild.
mortonjag 2009-02-24 07:58:15
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 24 2009, 07:08 AM) [snapback]581781[/snapback]
Prefer this one ? rolleyes.gif

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDThe woman was not ALL bad unlike that pre-pubescent pansy with the painted on tache.
mortonjag 2009-02-24 08:01:24
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 24 2009, 07:13 AM) [snapback]581784[/snapback]
More dodgy stuff in the bannna republic of britain mad.gif

By-election transparency concern

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7906901.stm
The commission report stated: "We do have some concerns that the count was not as transparent as it could have been, due to the layout of tables in the hall.

"One table where votes were being counted was not clearly within the view of candidates, agents or other observers.

"Also, the central tables where the votes for each candidate were collated were situated behind the returning officer's platform and obscured from view."



and CONCLUDED:

that the by-election was generally well run. "All stages of the election - from registration of electors to the counting of votes - went smoothly despite many challenges faced by the electoral administrators responsible for running the poll,"


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mortonjag 2009-02-24 09:10:13
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 24 2009, 08:31 AM) [snapback]581799[/snapback]
A skeleton with no arms, no spine and missing toes.

Sign Ezekiel!

presto
mortonjag 2009-02-24 09:19:08


QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 24 2009, 08:51 AM) [snapback]581804[/snapback]
Yes MJ, "went smoothly". That doesn't mean it wasn't fiddled. I don't think anyone is saying that the counting was done badly or wrongly - what is being suggested is that the disappearance of the electoral register may have been engineered as that would conceal which ballot papers that shouldn't have been cast in the first place - dead people for example. The ballot papers may have been counted correctly but that doesn't preclude the possibility that some of the filled in ballot papers shouldn't have been there to count in the first place.

Good grief-that is truly shocking. I wish somebody had indicated that earlier!
mortonjag 2009-02-24 09:21:39
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 24 2009, 09:03 AM) [snapback]581806[/snapback]
Brown is a psychologically disturbed control freak - there is something wrong with him. He broke down in tears at a meeting in Europe recently, an incident that was explained away by Downing St as "he had something in his eye". Spot of unintended IRONS there perhaps. I reckon he is heading for a total breakdown, if the Labour knives don't get him first.
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mortonjag 2009-02-24 09:26:26
QUOTE(Savo @ Feb 24 2009, 09:18 AM) [snapback]581814[/snapback]
I agree with all of that.
According to a good friend of Jim Duffy, he got a thirty second phone call from Mr Rae's secretary to knock him back for the job.

That's pathognomonic of everything that's been wrong at Greenock Morton since ever Rae decided to polish his ego and promote second rate confectionery on football strips.
mortonjag 2009-02-24 09:29:55
QUOTE(irnbru @ Feb 24 2009, 09:20 AM) [snapback]581817[/snapback]
I dont think he is to be honest. Struggling in the second this year and a poor season in the first last. He's more than likely had a bigger budget than most second division managers in what is a poor league anyway.

I'm not sure I see what has been so good about his work at Stirling apart from a few good performances against a terrible Morton side.

We may agree to differ.

What's relevant is that it would be VERY HARD to find a worse manager than sheep lips anywhere in the SFL.
mortonjag 2009-02-24 09:38:34 himself to the fact that he won't be getting any new players this season.
mortonjag 2009-02-24 09:42:39
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 24 2009, 09:38 AM) [snapback]581824[/snapback]
Instead of coming on here and bleating about vote rigging why don’t you do something about it? On a number of occasions you have mentioned your high level contacts in the SNP, so surely given the evidence you would be able to initiate an investigation. It’s your duty, we need to know if unscrupulous scoundrels are governing us rolleyes.gif .

...or even scrupulous rogues! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-24 09:44:06
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 24 2009, 09:41 AM) [snapback]581828[/snapback]
Ho hum.

Doesn't that dug of yours need a walk yet? dry.gif

unsure.gif She's at her work.
mortonjag 2009-02-24 09:48:27
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 24 2009, 09:41 AM) [snapback]581829[/snapback]
Who's the East Stirling manager these days...? tongue.gif

Jim McInally-a man who ultimately succumbed to his own decent personality and inability to stand up to Shoogly.

Not the sharpest tool in the box, I admit, but Irons' performance equates to fine sanding a table lamp base with a JCB! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-24 09:53:12
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 24 2009, 09:40 AM) [snapback]581827[/snapback]
Whoopee fecking do, that's fecking brilliant. Let's celebrate laugh.gif

Do you thing that amoral shagbag will pop up to see Scotland the next time she visits England?
mortonjag 2009-02-24 09:55:06
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Feb 24 2009, 09:48 AM) [snapback]581833[/snapback]
What did you have? unsure.gif What kind of lame brain runs out of bread, i always have a spare loaf or 2 in my freezer. rolleyes.gif

...and a bun in the oven?
mortonjag 2009-02-24 09:57:08
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 24 2009, 09:17 AM) [snapback]581813[/snapback]
I get the impression that there is actually quite a gap between the pragmatic Toryism of Annabel Goldie and the middle England Toryism of Cameron and his ilk. I wonder if, when the Tories get into power in Westminster as is probably inevitable, that gap will become a yawning chasm. Goldie seems a reasonable sort of person apart from her unionism, but Cameron seems like a very lightweight old Etonian and irrelevant to Scotland. I don't think they are quite on the same wavelength as each other.

I'm not a Tory myself obviously, but I think that after independence there would be a place for a right of centre party in Scotland. In a detached way, I sometimes think the Scottish Tories would do better in an independent Scotland, as long as they accepted independence as they have done with devolution, and didn't adopt a policy of trying to create a union with England/Wales/NI.

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mortonjag 2009-02-24 09:59:03
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 24 2009, 12:13 AM) [snapback]581762[/snapback]
HAPPY BIRTHDAY XXX

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mortonjag 2009-02-24 10:30:32
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Feb 24 2009, 10:27 AM) [snapback]581848[/snapback]
One is now over egging the pudding MJ

Well stop it immediately and check your soup.
mortonjag 2009-02-24 10:44:38 here
mortonjag 2009-02-24 10:48:19
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 24 2009, 10:46 AM) [snapback]581857[/snapback]
I have to date still to receive a f***ing warning. MODS GET IT f***ING SORTED. mad.gif

You are too refined by far.

Try calling somebody a POUFFE laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-24 10:51:54
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 24 2009, 10:50 AM) [snapback]581862[/snapback]
...for East Stirling smile.gif

UHUH! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-24 10:55:18
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 24 2009, 10:52 AM) [snapback]581867[/snapback]
I don't think Red Sox has much net access these days. But he is alive and well....well alive anyway...in fact, as far as I know he is alive! unsure.gif
Happy birthday Mick and Deego!

When you see him will you say that Jag has forgiven him-he will understand.
mortonjag 2009-02-24 10:59:05
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 24 2009, 10:54 AM) [snapback]581871[/snapback]
Well that's youropinion. Personally I would have picked him before DI. Still doesn't excuse informing someone by email. Very impersonal.
At least that's better than an email. Doesn't leave a good impression of the club though and will prob put off both guys from applying again unfortunately.

I'd imagine that every Manager and prospective Manager in Scottish football is well aware of Rae's reputation Weegie.

Hopefully the next appointment is taken on a vote.
mortonjag 2009-02-24 11:01:52
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 24 2009, 10:54 AM) [snapback]581872[/snapback]
Any pet hates? I'm very picky and I hate pure wrong grammar, like.
The worst:

"could of" instead of "could have" mad.gif

There are a few other, minor offences like "aswell". Two words, naw one!

Mortonjag, feel free to contribute personal favourites.

Inappropriate use of adjectives! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-24 11:03:50 I'm pure Hank at the moment-could murder a Chinky no bother.
mortonjag 2009-02-24 11:07:22
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 24 2009, 11:04 AM) [snapback]581889[/snapback]
Oooh I'm literally cracking up! laugh.gif

'cracking up'. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-24 11:17:01
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 24 2009, 11:09 AM) [snapback]581894[/snapback]
The fact that f***, c***, c***, b*****d, etc. are often “misspelt†when trying to make a point… angel.gif

It should fucking well be "mis-spelt" you cock! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-24 11:32:43
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 24 2009, 11:12 AM) [snapback]581897[/snapback]
I is a tad ironic that her middle name is Rodham biggrin.gif

More esoteric than Elliot Anderson I'd suggest!

Said Bawheid to Hilary (Rodham)
If I show you my baws will you haud 'em
Come into ma caur an'
I'll tickle your sporran
And give you a helping of Sodom.
mortonjag 2009-02-24 12:04:38 ]


QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 24 2009, 11:53 AM) [snapback]581938[/snapback]
Rogue apostrophes. For example, people who would write that phrase as " rogue apostrophe's", or advertise "sandwiche's" for sale. Really gets on my wick. mad.gif

One of the worst offender's (!) is at Cappielow, on the Cowshed wall roughly level with the Sinclair Street penalty box, on the advertising banner for Buchanan's Toffees (of all people!). The apostrophe in "Buchanan's" is correct, but the tagline below it reads "Scottish Confectionery at IT'S best" ! Aye, and English grammar at its worst....... It's offended my sensibilities for three or four years now, that one!! dry.gif

Some spelling mistakes are crackers, too. There was for years a fortune-teller at the Barras who had a sign above the door advertising her as a "CLEARVOYNT"....... I was scared to criticise it in case she put a bad spell on ME! The funny thing is, having meant to take a photo of it for years I finally went up to do it and found that sometime in the previous three weeks it had been painted over....... maybe she knew I was coming! laugh.gif

(edited due to a kareless speling misteak!!)

Something to do with your crystal balls perhaps?
mortonjag 2009-02-24 12:21:05
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Feb 24 2009, 11:40 AM) [snapback]581927[/snapback]
Here's what happened last night although something along these lines is a daily occurence when driving a truck in London. I'm sitting in the right hand lane at a set of lights. If you want to turn right here this is the correct lane to be in the other lanes are straight on. Now sometimes people aren't sure where they're going and want to change lane at the last second and I accept that. I do it myself. In this case quite a few drivers use the lane to my left to queue jump. I don't accept that. Now let me explain how he tucked himself up.

1. He didn't indicate his intention to turn right,thank you Jesus! (If he had the game would have been a non-starter)

2. He is on my left. My blind side. My dangerous side. I won't be looking there when I start to turn so I won't see him. Thank you Jesus!

3. I will need all the room to make my turn at the point where I know he will want to turn in. Thank you Jesus!

4. All I need now is for the traffic in front to work in my favour slightly. And it does. Thank you Jesus!

5. The lights change and I gun it. I get to the lights and there is about to be a very loud crunching noise. Or not as it turned out. Aw well 4/5 ain't bad and I've had my bit of fun! He did try and decided discretion was the better part of valour obviously! Some of you might think I'm being a bit of a K**B but this fella tried the very same thing at the next set of lights! With the same outcome. The motto is "Use your indicators!".(See that full stop is where it should be? I have Nacho to thank for that!). laugh.gif


Traffic light situations can be funny. There's a set of lights near here where you can technically go straight on in both lanes but the inner (left) late is always blocked by legally parked cars about fifty metres ahead. Folk often take the left lane by mistake and it's only courteous to let them out if you can, but some tosspots use it to jump the queue.

I don't even mind that if they have a powerful car (as I do) and can get away safely, but the other night I rolled up to those lights at 'red' with nothing near me-taking the right lane. Lo and behold this smartly dressed young Asian woman races up in an Audi TT and pulls alongside me in the inside lane.

Only two of us, and I KNOW she's going for it! Courtesy went out of the window-timed it perfectly with full turbo boost on the amber light and engaged the clutch faultlessly. Result-one very sheepish looking lady sitting behind me at the next lights! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-24 12:36:25
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 24 2009, 12:20 PM) [snapback]581948[/snapback]
You FREEZE bread????? blink.gif
I keep flour and yeast in the house. I'll never run out of bread.

Clearly a masterbaker.
mortonjag 2009-02-24 12:41:04
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 24 2009, 12:25 PM) [snapback]581952[/snapback]
I went to Belville Street primary school, and we used to have our church services in there.

When I drive up St Lawrence Street on my way to Cappielow I never fail to be amazed by the fact that such a narrow space once contained a row of tenements ( complete with back greens) and a decent-sized church, it's a remarkably small area given what was once there. blink.gif

My Uncle Jimmy (my Dad's uncle actually) lived in a top flat in the old tenements near the top of Belville Street. As a wee boy I loved the view across the firth and down into the docks. The ground behind their back green was waste and contained a huge bomb crater-hence the brilliant unobstructed vista.
mortonjag 2009-02-24 12:42:45
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 24 2009, 12:26 PM) [snapback]581953[/snapback]
Your a POUFFE

You're a bloody FOUTON!
mortonjag 2009-02-24 12:46:33
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 24 2009, 12:39 PM) [snapback]581959[/snapback]
valdes
dani alves
pique
puyol
abidal
yaya toure
xavi
keita
messi
henry
eto'o

maybe have ronaldo, buffon, kaka, robinho, gerrard, fabregas, ferdinand as well.
not forgetting mourinho in as manager, but then again his teams are not known for playing free flowing attacking football.
maybe ferguson or wenger then.

If we get all these players in then maybe...just maybe some folk on here might just be happy. dry.gif


I don't imagine Mr Rae could afford them all AND Wenger, so we'd have to keep Irons and Collins.

I guess we'd manage a top half slot.
mortonjag 2009-02-24 12:49:56
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 24 2009, 12:12 PM) [snapback]581946[/snapback]
"ABSOLUTELY!!" he ejaculated....... laugh.gif

It's quite embarrassing to have ejaculation marks all over ones jotter.
mortonjag 2009-02-24 12:51:13
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Feb 24 2009, 12:47 PM) [snapback]581964[/snapback]
Tell that to the Orthodox church.

I'm afraid that's all Greek to me.
mortonjag 2009-02-24 13:08:23
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Feb 24 2009, 12:59 PM) [snapback]581968[/snapback]
Would anyone take the risk of putting Shimmin in midfield - where he played against Hibs - and having McManus at the back?

I'm not so sure if this is a great solution but I'd rather see that than Jenkins in the team, and McGuffie will no doubt be dropped if he really was as bad as some here are saying on Saturday.

Why would you not like to see Jenkins in the team?
mortonjag 2009-02-24 13:10:07
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 24 2009, 01:06 PM) [snapback]581969[/snapback]
Tell that to the Russians. laugh.gif

Everybody knows that the Russians are Commies! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-24 13:17:05 I only object to inaccurate use of our native language on this forum when some misguided soul is trying to trump me intellectually! I use the word 'object', lightly.laugh.gif

When I hear or see English used incorrectly in the Media - a regular occurrence those days - I do become rather upset.
mortonjag 2009-02-24 13:22:11
QUOTE(Savo @ Feb 24 2009, 01:18 PM) [snapback]581980[/snapback]
Can I ask why you 'd rather not have Jenkins in the side? I'm genuinely baffled by that. He did more than enough to warrant a start until he got bruised feet and suddenly fell out of favour again.

As for Dom in midfield, he played in front of the defence at Broomfield in September and it was an unmitigated disaster.

I'm not saying that is to do with Dom - we were a tactical shambles that day - but I think you should always play to your strongest suit and for me that is Dominic at the back (and Jenkins starting in the midfield every week as well).

I would be hugely reluctant to remove Dominic from the back four, especially when he has struck up a good partnership with Greacen. I think it's a non-starter. Why would we want to weaken our defence to sort out a midfield problem when we have a perfectly good midfielder waiting in the wings in Jenkins. It makes no sense.

I couldn't agree more-considering we don't even have full backs, Dom and Greace have been immense-a shining beacon in an otherwise dreary season.

The real thing that needs changed of course, is the Manager.
mortonjag 2009-02-24 14:09:04
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Feb 24 2009, 01:41 PM) [snapback]581988[/snapback]
Jenkins is a horrible footballer. Can't pass, can't shoot. His rare run with the ball at defences almost always ends in the other team counter attacking. Either over does it, or has no end product. One thing I like about Jenkins is that he has the sense to stand around at the edge of the box at our corners to win the 2nd ball, which no one else ever seems to do, but apart from that nothing. Vastly over-rated player, whom I hope proves me wrong but as I see it now, it's not going to happen.

I didn't think many - if any - would think about about moving Dom but something has to happen in the centre of midfield, and whether that be to move Dom, or Walker, play an underperformer in Jenkins, or sacrifice a defender and play a midfield 3/5 (whichever way you think about it), it certainly needs sorted.

Says much more about you than it says about Jenks! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-24 14:12:11
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Feb 24 2009, 01:54 PM) [snapback]581995[/snapback]
Not sure if this has been asked on another thread but how long does Irons have a contract for?

Nobody seems to know. When Shoogly announced the appointment with his usual grandiose spin he stated that Irons and Collins would be with us 'for a long time to come'. Rather ironic when he now wants rid of him and is just waiting for the 'right' time.

mortonjag 2009-02-24 14:19:36
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Feb 24 2009, 12:58 PM) [snapback]581967[/snapback]
Down with workism!! As far as I'm concerned someone who picks rubbish off the street is every bit as important as the high court judge, the nurse, doctor or teacher. I would also hold the street cleaner who earns minimum wage in higher regard than a city spiv with his country house and Ferrari. It's not about status and wealth, it's about what you contribute. They all contribute positively to society by providing their labour / services, pay tax and generally get on with their lives. Leyton and loveless have displayed such a degree of snobbery. It seems to me they are inexperienced and ignorant of the world in which they live.

I'm not going to patronise Russell by telling him how great a job he has when he himself admits otherwise but I am not crass enough to belittle what he does when as he says himself most of us would rather be somewhere else. If you want to look for freaks - have a look around at the dole cheats and the junkies that take a lifetime of handouts and complain when the council funded arse scratcher can't come round because of bad weather.

That is absolutely correct. The common mistake is to believe that his job is as valuable to society, which it patently is not.
There are absolute shits doing very valuable jobs very well, and absolute gems doing menial tasks equally well.

The rank is but the guinea stamp. The man's the gowd for a' that.
mortonjag 2009-02-24 14:24:39
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Feb 24 2009, 02:01 PM) [snapback]581999[/snapback]
I've never seen the problem with doing that. sleep.gif

One that's pissed me off on this board lately is people saying "Iron's". No! His name is 'Irons', you can't just shove an apostrophe into it!

Anyway, English is a fucking stupid language.

Iron's the wrong way to spell Irons' name! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-24 14:29:35
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Feb 24 2009, 02:16 PM) [snapback]582004[/snapback]
Dont you mean when the price is right? Im assuming Irons is on at least a grand a week. As no one knows his exact length of contract then that could be a big payout for him ph34r.gif.

I meant what I said. If it was just down to price why was he just about to pack his bags before Grady arrived?

Mr Rae does not like to be seen to be unfair. I'm sure he'll be heartened to know that two thirds of our pollsters want rid of sheep lips very soon.
mortonjag 2009-02-24 14:36:42
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 24 2009, 01:47 PM) [snapback]581993[/snapback]
Comma before 'and'! Comma before 'and'!

The first use of the comma is correct. The second is acceptable. The third is also correct!
mortonjag 2009-02-24 15:05:32
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Feb 24 2009, 02:58 PM) [snapback]582016[/snapback]
3 months ago!!

People keep saying we're hard to beat, but we're slap bang in the middle of a relegation battle, we've increased our wage bill significantly yet are only 3 points better off than we were at this stage last season - that isn't progress, or being solid by any means. We're playing the worst "football" that I can remember, and aren't seeing the best of any of our players apart from the two centre-halfs - we're just horribly flat and lifeless, and there is no way it is acceptable.

The sooner Irons goes the better for all. It won't cost as much to pay him off as it will to keep him on and the sales of season tickets going down as well as the weekly attendances - and that will happen if we are to be subjected to yet another season of this nonsense.

I agree. I sense that the club could try for something more adventurous next season but we MUST avoid relegation. No point in risking back to back defeats by the Pars and Clyde, which is a DISTINCT possibility given that the players are sick to the back teeth of DI too!

No time like the present.
mortonjag 2009-02-24 15:11:00
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 24 2009, 02:57 PM) [snapback]582015[/snapback]
Pot Calling the kettle black there, did your man not say back in August that the Scot's didn't mind Thatchers policies?
Your slagging Broon for being with Bawheids idol.
I done a Scotsguy40 poll at work there, asked 16 folk do they think it's great having a Scottish 1st Minister out there meeting the Sherman's.

Who give's a f*** was the answer. With him getting a double wage and making sure he got a 25% pension increase when the Post Office has a huge hole in theirs is just what the folk need!

Bawheid is oot there on the charade of this Homecoming mince. We're hitting economic meltdown and he's wanting to bring folk over for a couple of nights oot.
We're talking aboot the same balloon that got the same treatment as Broon got at Hampden when he was Boo'ed off the pitch at Hampden. His face was tripping him that night so he'd be as well staying over with the Yanks.

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mortonjag 2009-02-24 17:46:20
QUOTE(irnbru @ Feb 24 2009, 04:36 PM) [snapback]582069[/snapback]
Ignoring the clubs greatest ever player is a lot worse than applying for a job in a company that has never heard of you though.

Alan McGraw has had similar problems with Rae as far as I know too. I know his allegiances lie elsewhere now but guys like him should be at least made welcome if not involved.

Correct-McGraw effectively told Rae to fuck off out of the dressing room!

Mr Rae doesn't like that sort of thing! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-24 17:57:03
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Feb 24 2009, 05:47 PM) [snapback]582106[/snapback]
To be fair, Alan Main's Wife's A Hoor.

What's the 'phone number?
mortonjag 2009-02-24 18:00:01
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Feb 24 2009, 04:58 PM) [snapback]582078[/snapback]
My place of work has unreasonably decided to ban internet access!!! As the old saying goes, that's me fcked.

However, I've got the ol' Iphone so see more of me again soon.

I've got far better things to be doing than coming on here when I'm in the hoose though!
Whit? Just get him telt!!!! Doesn't like football, never heard such pish.


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mortonjag 2009-02-24 18:05:54
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 24 2009, 05:30 PM) [snapback]582096[/snapback]
better than splashing out on a magazine!!

Come, come, magazines can be picked up in the Dentist's surgery!
mortonjag 2009-02-24 18:08:32
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 24 2009, 05:42 PM) [snapback]582102[/snapback]
Yep, I used to walk to school either along Serpentine Walk and up the side of the allotments beside the school, or along the waste ground behind the Belville Street tenements and up thru the gapsite where one of the tenements had been bombed. Used to go the latter way if we were goin for a "playpiece" into Janette's wee shop (known as "Jinnit's") or the Clydeview Dairy by the steps. Or if we had time down past the school to Ceasar's cafe on the corner across from the ELIM church. Them was the days.......

I remember they used to call that the 'four square' church. I have no idea why!
mortonjag 2009-02-24 18:10:17
QUOTE(princessTON @ Feb 24 2009, 03:15 PM) [snapback]582026[/snapback]
1 seat for me please smile.gif

I suppose you're now old enough to cope with all the odious little f***wits Princess! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-24 18:16:57
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Feb 24 2009, 04:34 PM) [snapback]582067[/snapback]
A 2 footed player in a Morton strip- mesasge to DI- SIGN HIM

DI isn't even interested in the youth players ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-24 18:23:30
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Feb 24 2009, 06:12 PM) [snapback]582115[/snapback]
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...or youse!

Are there any grammatical rules when using 'youse' and 'yese'?

'See youse lot-ahm scunnert wae yese'!

'Who the fuck do youse think yese are talkin' tae'?
mortonjag 2009-02-24 18:27:23
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 24 2009, 06:20 PM) [snapback]582120[/snapback]
Scandalous isn't it laugh.gif

A place of worship is where one worships.

A place of entertainment is where one is entertained.

A place of work is where one spends all day on the internet and expects forums to be cleansed by the relevant Mods just in case the Boss's own computer breaks down. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-24 18:31:18
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 24 2009, 06:22 PM) [snapback]582121[/snapback]
My theory on grammar is that if the person you are talking/writing to know what you are talking about by what you have said/wrote then it is fine.

Some people do get the high and mighty feel about correcting others.
...can't think of any examples mind you huh.gif

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People who go about boasting that they 'only missed a 'First' by a nit's baw hair' do set themselves up for scrutiny! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-24 18:44:54 I agree that the most important thing on an internet forum is that we can understand each other.

I believe, however, that those who are fortunate enough to be properly educated should not compromise that gift in order to appear 'normal'.

ThornTON often gets upset by bad spelling. His potentially appalling grammar leaves me totally unmoved! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-24 18:58:55
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 24 2009, 03:19 PM) [snapback]582029[/snapback]
we are launching sat, there will be a bit in the tele too....



Everybody seems very excited about this.

What's it in aid of?
mortonjag 2009-02-24 19:01:56
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 24 2009, 06:56 PM) [snapback]582141[/snapback]
As does people who don't read the rest of a thread and then make the exact same comments as others before them?
*hides*

I abhor the use of quasi Shakespearean inserts such as:


*hides* laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-24 19:40:18
QUOTE(axeman @ Feb 24 2009, 07:36 PM) [snapback]582151[/snapback]
Derek Collins said after the Partick game "It's going to be like that every week"

http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/articles/2/34336

DC gonnae get together with your pal Irons & just chuck it. mad.gif

What's wrong with sheep lips? He usually does all the bleating? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-24 19:59:23
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 24 2009, 07:38 PM) [snapback]582152[/snapback]
Both will be bored oot their tits then

Did you HAVE to show that picture again Ghostie?

I can honestly say that for downright offensiveness, pictures of that leering buffoon far surpass all I have EVER seen of any other politician-and that's saying a lot.

He is the obese embodiment of vulgar smugness-a self obsessed creature utterly detached from the average Scot, and wallowing in Holyrood opulence and debauchery.

I'd listen to a hundred Shoogly sermons rather than one word from that serpent's grotesque oral aperture.

How any of our apparently intelligent posters can be so easily conned beggars belief! [attachment=5328:sHa_rofl1.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-24 20:02:43
QUOTE(axeman @ Feb 24 2009, 07:41 PM) [snapback]582154[/snapback]
I think he's gone into hiding, either that or he's had 45 minutes to spare watching a player.


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Could it be Chopper, that DC already sees himself as sheep lips successor? dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-24 20:09:52
QUOTE(axeman @ Feb 24 2009, 08:05 PM) [snapback]582159[/snapback]
Wouldn't surprise me if he's already bending Rae's ear with that very suggestion.

Indeed-I can just see it-Collins the new Manager with Grady his assistant, while sheep lips writes his autobiography entitled 'Golden Basket'!
mortonjag 2009-02-24 20:24:56
QUOTE(stuart @ Feb 24 2009, 08:14 PM) [snapback]582162[/snapback]
As a point of interest, would people be happy for us to play attractive and risky football with the risk of going down rather than dull and boring "safe" football that would keep us up?

I would take the excitement and risk every day of the week.

Watching us right now is total torture - there is no way on earth I would "bring a friend" to see the games

It would far surpass the negative and patently risky crap we currently have to endure. What exactly is Collins trying to say-that we HAD to play like that against Partick? unsure.gif That's certainly how it seems and we all know what happened.

As I said elsewhere, Irons is insulting the intelligence of the fans if he thinks we buy into his crap. Other managers are now euphemistically claiming that 'Morton play a certain way' when they really mean that Irons is as predictable as rain in December with ONE game plan which almost invariably fails.

PLEASE Mr Rae-do us all a big favour NOW. You WILL get credit for it-guaranteed.
mortonjag 2009-02-24 20:29:40 I have abstained from voting.

Big Annabel-that would have been SO different! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-24 20:52:05
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 24 2009, 08:48 PM) [snapback]582170[/snapback]
There are none so blind as those who will not see...... rolleyes.gif

Ipse dixit! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-24 20:56:14
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 24 2009, 08:52 PM) [snapback]582172[/snapback]
Believe me TaunTon, that photo will send shivers down the backs of many at No.10 laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2009-02-24 21:00:52
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 24 2009, 08:57 PM) [snapback]582174[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-02-24 21:45:18
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Feb 24 2009, 09:32 PM) [snapback]582183[/snapback]
The thing is though, if we played more attractive football there would maybe be a chance we would do better. Not always in a chance of formation, maybe just uping the tempo a bit or changing the distribution rather than a 'f*** it up the park'.
I would like to see us use the formation we used at McDermid Park. We passed the ball rather than panicing, because we knew we couldn't play the long ball, and if it wasn't for DI failing to grab the game by the throat we had a good chance of taking a point or even more.
If we are going to play s***e like that all season attendences will fall and we will be in trouble. We can't afford either right now.

Agreed-the football we played at East End Park-especially in the first half was pleasant to watch. Even with our limited options we can take a game to the opposition. As the season progresses Irons seems more and more reluctant to do that.
mortonjag 2009-02-24 21:51:26
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 24 2009, 09:06 PM) [snapback]582179[/snapback]
Salmond got to the inner sanctum of the White House. The brit establishment won't like that one little bit.
Here we have a politician who wants to break up britain speaking with the most powerful woman in the world.

That won't go down well with the brit govenment at all rolleyes.gif

So he DID shag Clinton! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 24 2009, 09:14 PM) [snapback]582180[/snapback]
Not the first time he has been in tears Alibi. It was reported that he was in tears at a meeting with Labour politicians when they threatened to vote against him on the new Heathrow runway.

I think his mental health is deteriorating, he even looks dreadful in his physical appearance too.

There are many types of mental illness Spurtle. Bawheid's leering smirks are strongly reminiscent of the grandiose detachment commonly associated with schizophrenia. That's a professional opinion BTW! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-24 21:56:18
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Feb 24 2009, 09:36 PM) [snapback]582184[/snapback]
It doesn't make sense to me that people who don't believe in God go out and get pissed after a Christening. It doesn't make sense to me that people choose to support Rangers or Celtic or that some men have boyfriends, but each to their own.

If someone invited me to a Christening up until recently I would have thought it would have probably involved going to the church service where the wean was being Christened; I'd heard more and more recently that people were going to christenings which extended beyond the church service; as per the example in the first post where I over-heard someone say they were going to a christening for a couple of pints.

Now, after having wean I can undertand that people would go out to celebrate the birth but that's not the same thing as a Christening. I will celebebrate when my kids are born too.

Some folks like to make issues of things which don't exist.



My daughter was christened over twenty eight years ago WDE, and we invited everybody back to the house for a wee party. Alcohol was there for those who wanted it. It's NOT a new phenomenon, and they had all attended the church service beforehand.
mortonjag 2009-02-24 22:01:31
QUOTE(SramTon @ Feb 24 2009, 09:41 PM) [snapback]582186[/snapback]
The one thing that really annoys me is when I'm approaching a roundabout or junction where the road widens to allow two cars to wait side-by-side and the car in front planks themselves right in the middle, forcing me to wait behind.

There's absolutely no excuse for it. It's not safer, it's not lack of confidence/ability, it doesn't get them anywhere faster. It's just plain f***ing selfish and anyone who does it is a complete arsehole. End of, no defence available.

...and talking of roundabouts, I absolutely DETEST folk who seem unable to assess the situation in advance, and coast up to a roundabout before STOPPING to look right when there's obviously been nobody coming for the last five or ten seconds! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-25 06:57:32 They just keep getting it so wrong-Bawheid's lot. Swinney's just had egg all over his face on LIT, here Hyslop's shown to be a palpable clot, and I've ordered in extra incontinence breeks in preparation for Nickerless's Health Bill tomorrow.

Wake up to reality folks. It's getting more like Irons v McInally every day! ph34r.gif

Hyslop abandons the lower classes.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 07:02:13
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 24 2009, 09:03 PM) [snapback]582178[/snapback]
Do I have proof that he's a crank? Yes: pretty much every time he's opened his mouth.

The Ritchie case is shocking, though. There is a man who deserves a courteous reply at the very least.

Irrespective of personal attributes real or imagined, the club should have dealt with all applications in an acceptable professional manner.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 07:12:21
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Feb 25 2009, 01:13 AM) [snapback]582255[/snapback]
Cannae be ersed reading this thread so will just add my tuppence worth.

We should sack DI & DC immediately and pay them their pay-off just the way we are JM.

Bring in another Manager and pay out THREE Managers wages per week and if the new guy is pish let's get rid of him at the end of the season as well !!!

FFS I think some on here need to open their eyes and smell the coffee.

Folk are complaining about admission prices and yet they think we can afford to sack yet another Manager.
Would everyone be prepared to pay an extra £1 per home game to watch our beloved team and not moan about it, I doubt it.

We're at the start of a recession and cash is etremely tight, we should give the guys till the end of the season to turn it around.

Yes the fitba is pish but why should we get rid of the current guys when we gave the last balloon seasons to prove himself.



Because we HAVE to in order to MAKE some money Willy Man. You're a bright chap-sometimes you have to put out a little cash to get a longer term return.

Would you rather Rae doesn't take the bull by the horns, the players up their current 'go slow', and we're relegated before we realise it's happened?

That is a VERY distinct possibility.

What use will a new £300,000 stand be then?

A new stand that cost £300,000-EH.

Oh I reckon we can pay off sheep lips and his sneaky wee side kick nae bother! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-25 07:20:09
QUOTE(Toby @ Feb 25 2009, 03:12 AM) [snapback]582261[/snapback]
If memory serves me correctly, last year's Q & A was held on March 19th. I'm aware that the club don't strictly hold them at a certain time of year, but am interested to know if there are any plans to have one.

Updates on matters such as the share issue, SPL 2, the Love Street stand would clearly of interest to us all, not to mention the more pressing issue of the team, which is currently beginning to cause distress again.

Last year's was timed to perfection by Mr. Rae. A new management team had just arrived and we were all encouraged to look forward rather than back. The master salesman had his way of interacting with the minions yet could use the positive slant to deflect any criticism.

Perhaps I'm cynical towards the chairman (a massive understatement) but I don't expect anything just now as he doesn't have that one up his sleeve at the moment and the heckling may not resemble the Dougiiiieee, Dougiiiieee shouts that he was accustomed to in the early years of his tenure. i.e. Turkey's not voting for Christmas.

It's clear that Irons is losing favour with the support* and in my opinion the reason that no Q & A was called towards the and of the McInally era was because Rae wanted to dodge some bullets. Can we expect the same wall of silence from Cappielow this time?

*R.E. gettng shot of Irons, this is something I personally have no public view on after my role in the TTG Jim campaign last season.



Bawbag! laugh.gif


I'm sure Shoogly will be losing a lot of sleep over this issue. He just loves his wee soirees. What would a Scapa season be without its Shoogly Soiree?


I reckon that's the one thing which WILL force Rae to sack Irons in the next couple of weeks, and the new manager will be publicly introduced at a slightly belated Shoogly Show.

I'm looking forward to that. If I don't have a prior arrangement, I may even attend! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-25 07:44:13
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 24 2009, 10:39 PM) [snapback]582207[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Dr Mentaljag in full hyperbolic overdrive. Nearly as good/bad/mad as a politician.

JOBBY
mortonjag 2009-02-25 07:46:02
QUOTE(EBu @ Feb 24 2009, 09:52 PM) [snapback]582192[/snapback]
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Sorry, was in work, bored and pissed off at all the grammatical errors on this site... biggrin.gif

'by'.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 07:50:46
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 25 2009, 01:42 AM) [snapback]582259[/snapback]
One of the very few good things about this credit crunch and recession is that a lot of people are being forced to take a reality check as their jobs which they were smug about aren't as safe as they thought and their homes and possessions are all worth a lot less than they thought too. Many of the middle-classes are now suffering the pains that the poor have done for years, and people dont feel the same solidarity towards Bank workers, Estate Agents, Surveyors etc. than they did for the likes of Miners, Shipyard, Steel and Car Workers.

Many folk who were unfortunate enough to go to Uni in the past decade are probably still paying off a student loan and many never found work in the field that they trained in, through no fault of thier own. Many folk have already had their recession and struggled to get jobs, or took alternative jobs in the hope that something better will come along, were saddled with an unfair and unjust debt, struggled to get homes because property prices were over-inflated etc. So its fair to say that many younger folk have already had their recession and felt the pains whilst thier elders were deluding themselves into believing that thier ex-council cottage flat was really worth 120k+, and borrowing on the strength of it.

A lot of what we are seeing just now is correction, a painful return to reality. Its sore, a real kick in the balls if you're unfortunate enough to be a victim of circumstances of what big companies will do to keep themselves viable. Its 'any port in a storm' for many proud folk out there nowadays, and if serving burgers pays the bills, then thats what you do.



What goes round comes round. It's ok as long as you are able to wait.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 07:59:01
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 25 2009, 12:53 AM) [snapback]582247[/snapback]
No I reckon someone is a big enough mug to pay for the hosting etc. and devote the time to be censor of opinions which go against the grain. As MortonJag says

"Dont they hate us when we tell the truth".

Cue six pages of self adulation.


A Morton player going off his trolley outside a nightclub would have been a nice topical discussion on this messageboards predecessor, the same goes for a Morton player caught snorting cocaine on CCTV. The club doesn't want the rank and file to know about this, they prefer to sweep things under the carpet, so the powers that be get the messageboard's moderator(s) to censor and remove what they dont want the plebian hoardes to know. Well, its either that or he may as well ram his camera up his arse, because it wont be welcome at the ToothrotterDome anymore.

The messageboards at the time played a key role in removing Hugh Scott from Cappielow, and were an invaluable outlet for opinion, discussion, hilarity, bulls*** and venting your spleen in what was really dark times for Morton. This messageboard has inherited, by default, the position of being the place where Morton supporters come together online, but it doesn't share the heritage of being the leftfield, independent thinking, alternative voice for supporters of Morton, which we badly and sadly need.

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There's an uneasy peace at the moment-united as we all appear to be in the face of the common enemy-SHEEP LIPS.


Get him to fuck, see a wee bit of improvement, and the bullish and dismissive arrogance of Rae and his shooglyphiles will be back to full steam quicker than a skint whore drops her drawers. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-25 08:17:20
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 25 2009, 08:08 AM) [snapback]582275[/snapback]
Three things:
1) Using the word 'junta' to describe Millions is ridiculous and disrespectful to people who actually live under a junta
2) Football clubs are not democracies.
3) Do sheep have lips?

If you want some democracy at the club then I suggest you all start saving your pennies for a fans buyout.

Occasionally Peter, you demonstrate incredible naivety.

Do sheep have lips? I thought yer missus was a fermer-has she never bottle fed an orphaned lamb.

Here's an illustrative picture:

[attachment=5334:200px_Davie_Irons.jpg]
mortonjag 2009-02-25 08:49:45
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 25 2009, 08:14 AM) [snapback]582277[/snapback]
Yup and there will be pigs flying over Cappielow that day..... rolleyes.gif

I hope Squib will be given advance warning.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 09:01:16
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 25 2009, 08:33 AM) [snapback]582279[/snapback]
Davie Irons

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mortonjag 2009-02-25 09:04:13
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 25 2009, 08:04 AM) [snapback]582273[/snapback]
Morning! biggrin.gif

Good morning!
mortonjag 2009-02-25 09:08:15
QUOTE(foxy @ Feb 25 2009, 08:53 AM) [snapback]582285[/snapback]
People like him dont deserve to be allowed to set foot in this country, The government should look at how they have approached the whole asylum seekers acceptance scheme & find everyone that is illegally here & punt them back to what ever country they are from.

Once they have dont that then maybe they should look at a more pressing matter that haas always been brushed under the carpet, the homeless folk that are UK citizens and find them homes first & help them get their life together
.

The main problem is that the layer of bureaucracy created by the whole immigration/racism/human rights business is MONSTROUS compared to any agency devoted to grass roots problems at home. That of course is down to politicians.

Vive la revolution.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 09:11:14 'Pro rata' simply refers to being paid a multiple of a unit (normally hourly) rate. It can apply to any job-full or part time.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 09:18:24
QUOTE(Savo @ Feb 25 2009, 09:02 AM) [snapback]582291[/snapback]
Jackie McNamara certainly did one afternoon, and there was no 'effectively' about it

McNamara's band banned! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-25 09:38:05
QUOTE(EBu @ Feb 25 2009, 09:21 AM) [snapback]582297[/snapback]
As I said earlier, anyone else feeling paranoid about posting on this thread? laugh.gif

laugh.gif I was merely teasing. We all use 'stock terms' which incorporate inaccurate grammar.

If you wish to read a unique example of grammatical tripe, peruse Shoogly's programme notes.


It's quite sad. He's clearly not terribly bright, but has had the benefit of a good English education. The result is a disaster.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 09:44:29
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 25 2009, 09:38 AM) [snapback]582302[/snapback]
I can't get my head around why people think that the asylum and immigration process in this country is some kind of soft touch. It is extremely difficult to win an asylum claim before the AIT, and the extent to which the AIT decisions are weighted AGAINST legitimate applicants is obvious when the government goes to extraordinary lengths to oust judicial review from the process and does all it can to settle out of court when a claim for judicial review is made.

You're dead right that there are layers of bureaucracy corrupting the system...but certainly not in the favour of applicants.

I was referring to the whole ambit of immigration, racism, political correctness, and human rights-not just asylum seeking. Many asylum seekers deserve a FAR better deal that the 'open door' offered to some mid and eastern Europeans.

The point of course was that home grown issues are relatively ignored.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 09:53:04
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Feb 25 2009, 09:41 AM) [snapback]582303[/snapback]
David Cameron and his wife have lost their lad Ivan. I can't think of anything worse than losing your child. How tragic that he and Gordon Brown have this in common.




Conservative leader David Cameron's eldest son Ivan has died in hospital.

The six-year-old was born with cerebral palsy and epilepsy and needed round-the-clock care at the family's home in West London.

Ivan, who Mr Cameron described as "wonderful", was a regular in-patient at St Mary's hospital in Paddington.

Mr Cameron had been an MP for less than a year when Ivan was born in April 2002. He and wife Samantha have two younger children, Nancy and Arthur.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 09:56:25 Happy birthday to Julie-Anne! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-25 10:12:13 I'm not an expert but I suspect that shift + R alters the screen resolution. You can go into control panel and alter that permanently by yourself.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 10:21:03 We're now closer to the Pars game than last Saturday's debacle. How can anybody possibly call this one? We've a reasonably good home record, but the boys heads seem down again. Will miracles be performed before the weekend and produce for us an exciting spectacle of spirited attacking football.

I've delegated this one to the Monkey who claims it will be a dour 1-1 draw. Fing says he doesn't give a toss any more! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-25 10:45:47
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 25 2009, 10:40 AM) [snapback]582336[/snapback]
Surely the point about this is not that some dark figure from the club has demanded the information be kept secret, and more to do with the fact that you're accusing someone of a criminal offence, which could land whoever is running the site a whole host of legal problems, whether you know the accusation to be true or not.

Best bet, if you have evidence of this, is to approach the club or, if you feel that way inclined, the media (local or national). If they think it's legally sound to do so, they'll run with the story and they can cover themselves if they find themselves in court over the alegations.

I think the REAL point was that this forum is supposedly unofficial and independent, but is run by a club official.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 10:52:07
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Feb 25 2009, 10:47 AM) [snapback]582343[/snapback]
What club official. unsure.gif

The official (or one of) photographer as listed in the match day programme!

QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 25 2009, 10:49 AM) [snapback]582344[/snapback]
No matter who runs it (club official or not), they'd have been made to keep the cocaine story on even if it is true and even if the original poster knows that it's true.

True but that deflects from my point.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 11:02:13
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Feb 25 2009, 10:54 AM) [snapback]582349[/snapback]
It isn't independent of the law though, and we all know you cant just go making the accusations of the magnitude capitanus has, be it true or not.
I think some people should put their toys back in the pram.

I'm not au fait with the situation Capitanus has described.

What I DO know is that in the past several club insiders have been given unbridled access to the forum-no harm there if their input had been unbiased, but this poster was regularly and systematically subjected to unacceptable personal attacks for daring to question the status quo, with no apparent intervention from the Moderators. At the moment we seem to have relative calm. I hope it stays this way.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 11:09:14
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 25 2009, 10:57 AM) [snapback]582352[/snapback]
Fair enough...but two transfer windows, one of them being a completely dead market, isn't all that much when you are talking about turning round a club that have grossly underachieved for the best part of a decade.

I agree that I don't really SEE cause for optimism at the minute, but at some point in time this club are going to have to stick by a decent manager, accept that turning a club around takes time, and give him the time and support to do it. In fairness I think they tried to do that with McInally, but he ran out of ideas. Whether Irons has already ran out of ideas, or whether he's got some kind of Alex Ferguson/Paul Le Guen style recovery in him I've absolutely no idea.

Rae wants rid of Irons and gave him no dosh in the last window (despite personally offering £100k for Gowsa).

That's what I've had from reliable people. I've also heard that the players heads are down again because Irons is 'a self obsessed and overbearing bully'.

If anybody has genuine proof to the contrary I'd love to hear it. I don't know why Shoogly won't grasp the nettle NOW.

There's more than enough in that squad to escape relegation. All that's required is motivation and some tactical awareness.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 11:12:56
QUOTE(centralTON @ Feb 25 2009, 11:03 AM) [snapback]582357[/snapback]
A mate one told me the plural for Hardon, isn't Hardons', but Hards'on.
Can anyone confirm this for me.

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Depends whether 'hard' is used as an adjective or part of a noun. Probably also depends on whether it's two tadgers at once or one tadger twice! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-25 11:15:41
QUOTE(McCauley87 @ Feb 25 2009, 11:08 AM) [snapback]582359[/snapback]
Anybody know the are around Glasgow Uni well for parking at night?

I'm going up for a talk tonight and then giong to Ashton Lane for a bit afterwards and not sure where the best place to park is

The area around the Uni itself isn't usually too busy at night-as distinct from the surrounding residential parts which are always 'chockers'.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 11:20:28
QUOTE(irnbru @ Feb 25 2009, 11:14 AM) [snapback]582362[/snapback]
I thought he had turned it around but right now I think it was just the usual misplaced optimism of a football fan. The fact that we are setting out simply not to get beat no matter who we play (we're becoming well know for it - thats not just my opinion) indicates he has ran out of ideas. Indeed the quotes I've read from both DI and DC suggest they are resigned to doing this and to struggle to avoid relegation. Any manager worth their salt should always be looking up the table, especially in a division with no outstanding teams.

Getting a solid backbone in the team is one thing but it looks like the management team are happy to stick with what we have at the moment tactics wise and thats not on.

Well they've already been threatened with the sack, so you can't blame them for trying to remain 'unsackable'-even if everybody else suffers.

It's Shoogly's call. Ultimately he is the one who appointed that disastrous pair, and who is now prolonging our (and their) agony.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 11:30:42
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 25 2009, 11:20 AM) [snapback]582368[/snapback]
I thought you had a son who was a recruitment hotshot or something? In this day and age, he'd be able to tell you that in many fields not every application receives a response.

I don't need to be told that either by my son or by yourself. That doesn't make it right.

Furthermore the topic on discussion is that of the appointment of a Manager by a small business which is supervised exclusively by one man. His failure to deal with applications in a professional manner is merely one feature of his renowned dismissive arrogance.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 12:19:20
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 25 2009, 11:48 AM) [snapback]582380[/snapback]
He wasn't appointed as manager, though. He was turned down, apparently with a phone call. That's more than he deserved.

The treatment of Andy Ritchie (if true) is shocking, though.

To be frank I couldn't give two hoots about it. I've long since despaired of any sense of fair play from Rae.

What you appear to suggest is that it is correct for applicants for the same post to be treated differently, and I believe that is fundamentally wrong and could potentially lead to allegations of discrimination on whatever grounds.

I'd be interested in the opinions of our HR posters. I'm talking in general terms.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 12:23:02
QUOTE(irnbru @ Feb 25 2009, 11:54 AM) [snapback]582382[/snapback]
I think we'll sneak a 1-0 and keep Irons in a job for another few weeks at least.

The next two games must be make or break for him - lose them and I cant see him being manager by the end of next week.

Hopfully start with the team below but dont see it. Although for that to work Irons would need to have the defence sorted from the start to save us from the last 3 at the back fiasco.

Cuthbert

Walker----Shimmin-------Greacen

Finlayson----Partaalu----McAlistair
Jenkins

Grady------Weatherson------Russell
If we were to play 4 at the back does anyone see any harm in playing a youth player there? Cant be any worse than Smith?


FFS give him a bloody break. It's bad enough those boys having to cope with sheep lips without constantly being pilloried on here. Junior has been a lot better than some want to believe.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 12:27:26
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 25 2009, 12:16 PM) [snapback]582388[/snapback]
I agree on the first part...on the players though, I'm not really sure. I reckon we have a handful of good players in Cuthbert, Shimmin, Grecean and McAlister who, all having ups and downs, are more than capable of playing at an (even slighlty) higher level. Beyond that you've got the likes of Harding, Weatherson, McGuffie and Jenkins who threaten to be good players but who haven't really shown that they can do it consistently...for more than one manager. And then beyond that again we've got a squad of players, Walker, McGregor, Smith, Finlayson, etc. for who I think are punching either at or above their weight in the first division, as much as I like some of them. I don't think we'll get far without seriously strengthening the squad in almost every department.

Your assessment of Jimbo ahead of Spoonsy is odd.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 12:29:18
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 25 2009, 12:11 PM) [snapback]582387[/snapback]
I must say it is refreshing to see open and honest debates surrounding this issue without all the usual nonsense that goes with it. Disecting the rights and wrongs of our management is much more productive that go or stay.

Everyone agrees the fare on offer is not good enough and for DC to claim every game will be a dogfight despite the clear lack of fight from the players just now only exaberates the situation and illadvised comments to come out with.

Dogs have teeth, we don't appear to at the moment.

They can't bite if they're muzzled! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-25 12:41:52
QUOTE(McCauley87 @ Feb 25 2009, 11:45 AM) [snapback]582378[/snapback]
Any particular area? It's Turnbull Hall I'm going to and don't know the campus or even the are that well

It's on Southpark Terrace, and that's residential. You can probably park on University Avenue and walk over.
use the zoom function
mortonjag 2009-02-25 12:46:09
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 25 2009, 12:32 PM) [snapback]582404[/snapback]
As a specialist in the subject, I can tell you that your pal is failing to grasp it.

Sounds like he couldn't give a toss.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 12:53:41
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 25 2009, 12:22 PM) [snapback]582392[/snapback]
So what you are saying is that Hilary Clinton is roughly the US equivalent of Ian Grey? No real power and does as she is told? Ok, a reasonable view to take. Nevertheless, it is clearly a political coup for Salmond given that politics is all about appearances and most folk won't delve too deep into the subtler nuances.

Would those who seem to want to belittle anything Salmond does answer the following questions, yes or no? Would you prefer that Scotland should be represented overseas as only a part of the UK and not as a distinct nation? Should our overseas profile be determined by the UK government?

my own view, it will not surprise you to learn, is that anything that is done overseas to promote Scotland is a good thing - and that will NEVER be done through a UK filter, as I know well from my trips to the Middle East a few years ago.

He'd be better with a big yellow bag over his head then!

one, two ,three, AND
mortonjag 2009-02-25 13:04:01
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 25 2009, 12:51 PM) [snapback]582422[/snapback]
Perhaps you were systematically attacked because of the aggressive and tedious way in which you went about complaining Douglas. laugh.gif
If you'd used wit then they may have left you alone. I also think given the way you'd reacted to posts by other members it may be a case of 'hello Mr Pot, it's Mr Kettle'. rolleyes.gif

On this particular issue Peter, your opinions are of absolutely no consequence to me, but thanks for trying! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-25 13:15:04
QUOTE(jpmil @ Feb 25 2009, 12:42 PM) [snapback]582415[/snapback]
Which means he knows hee haw and is on a phishing trip. As usual all mouth and no substance!

No-a direct account of the events from somebody who was present. Where was Stevie Masterton on Tuesday evening?

When did the squad leave Firhill on Saturday?

Finally, WHAT is your agenda? You appear to be calling me a liar. I have NEVER lied either about my sources or about the information I've had.

SO-put up or shut up! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-25 13:17:20
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 25 2009, 12:45 PM) [snapback]582418[/snapback]
It is correct for applicants to the same post to be treated differently. You can believe it's fundamentally wrong if you like, but I imagine you have no experience in this area and wouldn't even care about it if it didn't allow you a chance to stick the boot in to Rae again.

Are you genuinely interested in HR opinions, or just ones that are going to back up your prejudices?

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mortonjag 2009-02-25 13:22:45
QUOTE(Madton @ Feb 25 2009, 12:35 PM) [snapback]582409[/snapback]
Hello Pot,

Its kettle, your black.

Is your pilloring of Dave Irons acceptable i take it?

rolleyes.gif


Well you are the very first person to question it my dear!

There are varying opinions about a young lad who is doing his best in an unaccustomed position.

Most seem agreed that sheep lips is utterly gash!
mortonjag 2009-02-25 13:25:53
QUOTE(giz @ Feb 25 2009, 12:36 PM) [snapback]582411[/snapback]
Let it ;ie...dont want to resurrect this on Ash wednesday do we? rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2009-02-25 13:29:25
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 25 2009, 01:10 PM) [snapback]582444[/snapback]
ph34r.gif
at no point has the club asked me to remove anything

no he isnt rolleyes.gif

He is an official club photographer according to the match day programme.

Is that incorrect?
mortonjag 2009-02-25 13:33:28
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Feb 25 2009, 10:51 AM) [snapback]582346[/snapback]
Mayebe she had something in her Academy days?

Kilmacolm Primary!
mortonjag 2009-02-25 13:35:21
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 25 2009, 01:26 PM) [snapback]582465[/snapback]
i think now under irons the youth club vibe at the training ground has gone

Aye indeed Davie is universally adored by his 'extras'! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-25 13:37:49
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 25 2009, 01:36 PM) [snapback]582479[/snapback]
Yeah, I didn't think so.

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mortonjag 2009-02-25 13:47:54
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 25 2009, 01:31 PM) [snapback]582473[/snapback]
i wouldnt say that made him an offical rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2009-02-25 13:51:03
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 25 2009, 08:11 AM) [snapback]582276[/snapback]
The PO these days is as relevant to life today as the quill is to internet banking. Never has an institution needed reform more.
Public sector pensions are the next time bomb in this country, not quite as obscene as bankers' bonuses but obscene nonetheless.

Definition Peter?
mortonjag 2009-02-25 13:54:43
QUOTE(Cawston @ Feb 25 2009, 01:42 PM) [snapback]582486[/snapback]
In the last window?

Aye-had you not heard? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-25 14:02:47
QUOTE(Cawston @ Feb 25 2009, 01:52 PM) [snapback]582502[/snapback]
Right you are then sheep lips tongue.gif

Pots and kettles seem to be a theme today.

Why are you calling me sheep lips? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-25 14:04:49
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 25 2009, 02:03 PM) [snapback]582512[/snapback]
Fat chance of any of the under 19's getting a chance when Irons won't even use them in reserve games .

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I seem to recall that he describes them as 'The extras'!
mortonjag 2009-02-25 14:08:46
QUOTE(franco @ Feb 25 2009, 02:00 PM) [snapback]582508[/snapback]
If you're going to Ashton Lane afterwards why not just use the big car park behind it? Think it's free after 6pm, or very cheap if not free.

Can be dodgy because of evening classes.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 14:17:25
QUOTE(centralTON @ Feb 25 2009, 02:07 PM) [snapback]582515[/snapback]
Just wondered, as it was something that came up during the conversation.

The term is a 'hard-on', and derives from having a 'hard' on. 'Hard' is the definitive noun.

In purist terms the plural should be two hards on, but 'hard-on' has become such a common expression that I'd guess hard-ons is equally acceptable!

Thinking of a parody for yon' song:

I beg your pardon
I never promised you a big hard-on! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-25 14:21:21
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 25 2009, 02:12 PM) [snapback]582518[/snapback]
Unfortunate names

The last comment is a belter laugh.gif ph34r.gif .

laugh.gif


Job E Wise!
mortonjag 2009-02-25 14:23:45
QUOTE(McCauley87 @ Feb 25 2009, 02:20 PM) [snapback]582528[/snapback]
Dodgy for finding a space or dodgy for security reasons?

Space-though I've not been there in the evening for a couple of years. I'd go along with HT and try to get parked on University Avenue near the main Uni building-it's five minutes walk to your destination.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 14:31:09
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 25 2009, 02:19 PM) [snapback]582525[/snapback]
Not really...I think he's a better player with a better attitude, who is having a bad spell. Just my opinion really.

I think Spoonsy is twice the footballer. In other areas Jimbo is well ahead.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 14:34:40
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 25 2009, 02:28 PM) [snapback]582538[/snapback]
In no particular order.

season ticket holders

Those who pay at the gate

Stuart Greacan

Dom Shimmin

Kev Cuthbert

Mark Farrell

So who gets your vote ?

I never thought I'd say it, but at the moment I feel a twinge of sympathy for Douglas Rae.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 14:37:32
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 25 2009, 02:28 PM) [snapback]582537[/snapback]
Well if you are after dodgy then park on Kelvin Way; you never know who you might "meet". Maybe someone from Turnbull Hall biggrin.gif ph34r.gif .
Your going nowhere with me tongue.gif !

Don't get yer knickers in a twist sweetie-I much prefer men.

Let us haste to Kelvingrove bonnie laddie oh!
mortonjag 2009-02-25 14:44:37
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 25 2009, 02:37 PM) [snapback]582547[/snapback]
There used to (and maybe still is) an Ambrose Rice in Greenock, and a house in Dunlop Street was occupied by A Plaster. There was also a Mrs Concordia McGugan on the tenants' list when I worked at the cooncil many years ago, and an Ivy Walls, a Richard (no doubt known as "Dick") Short and a Richard Head.......

I once worked with a guy who was adopted at birth, and his adoptive parents only had two days notice that they were getting a baby. They didn't even know the sex of the child and while they were buzzing about buying a cot etc they discussed names and decided that if it was a girl they'd call her Tara. Nice enough maybe - but not when your surname's O'Hara....... laugh.gif

And I used to work beside a Joe Kerr too.

Yours aye,

Rudolph Hucker

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The proprietor of a well known Glasgow Chinese restaurant is called James. He had polio as a child and walks with a very bizarre gait. He was born Sum Ting Wong.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 14:56:37
QUOTE(Madton @ Feb 25 2009, 02:47 PM) [snapback]582553[/snapback]
Really, according to the Poll, only 33% of this board(even thats a minority of the Morton Support)want him away now.

He has fecked up a good few times this season, no doubt about that, but to say MOST of the support agree with you is way off the mark!!

I said nothing of the kind.

My impression from reading ALL the posts since the Thistle game is that most are agreed that sheep lips is gash.
What I stated Sweetie, was that you are the first to attack me for daring to state my genuinely held opinion on the matter.

Is that OK with you? smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-25 14:59:27
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Feb 25 2009, 02:47 PM) [snapback]582552[/snapback]
Tell us something we don't know! happy.gif

When Rae called Irons and Collins in-he had already rejected all the others in favour of a pair of big tits?
mortonjag 2009-02-25 15:03:03 I've still to meet Ida Harden though I believe she's related to Sue K Dick..
mortonjag 2009-02-25 15:30:27
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Feb 25 2009, 03:12 PM) [snapback]582568[/snapback]
Low crowd, no skill, no entertainment, zero points.It'll be raining, freezing, my pie will be rock hard and my bovril cold, but I still can't wait for Saturday at 3 pm.

I'm getting quite jealous.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 15:37:44
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Feb 25 2009, 02:38 PM) [snapback]582549[/snapback]
He should have been booked for the dive!

Is that what rectum?
mortonjag 2009-02-25 15:40:18
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 25 2009, 03:29 PM) [snapback]582573[/snapback]
Can we get the date out ASAP for this?

Mortonjag has to have enough time to book a hotel in London for the same night ph34r.gif

wub.gif You are a superb litle PR man!
mortonjag 2009-02-25 15:42:10
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 25 2009, 03:38 PM) [snapback]582584[/snapback]
Davie Irons.

The man may be guilty of unspeakable things but not even he should be subjected to mortonjag calling him 'Sheep Lips' on the messageboard.

I did take sheep into consideration before posting. I concluded that they wouldn't mind.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 15:44:15
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Feb 25 2009, 03:42 PM) [snapback]582588[/snapback]
As soon as I posted this I regretted it, but decided not to edit and instead wait to see who picked up on it.
I'll add this to my " amusing MJ posts" file. A small file indeed but full of gems.

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mortonjag 2009-02-25 15:49:02 We had this discussion some time ago, and quite a few seemed genuinely interested in the value of inspecting their little brown friends before dispatching them on their long journey to the sea, or wherever.

Are you all examining your jobbies-it's a serious question.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 15:57:58
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 25 2009, 03:54 PM) [snapback]582595[/snapback]
And you're a pish HR man tongue.gif

I take it you are well acquainted with the workings of the Sewerage department then!
mortonjag 2009-02-25 16:01:35
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 25 2009, 03:12 PM) [snapback]582569[/snapback]
Sorry, can't help it, I went to St Stephens in the Port, it was how I was taught. Thank god we have you to keep us on the straight and narrow......... rolleyes.gif

As for bawheid, he can claim he was misquoted, how many times in the past have we tried to get a leg over and when the burd tell's us to bolt we say, "that's no wit a meant hen" to cover our brass neck. It's the same thing.

The beauty of all this laughing and joking about the political leaders though is that what we've seen from Labour and the Tories over the years makes Bawheid and co no different from them.

We should demand better for what we are paying for. Broon, Bawheid and the rest of the UK provinces are having their meeting today to talk about pulling in the purse strings for the next few years all the while that mob have voted to treat themselves to a nice 25% pension increase. Both the public and private sectors cannot command this. Will 2 wages Bawheid the saviour of Scotland knock his back?

Ah- but he donates one of them to the Little Sisters of the Poor or similar.

Just to save Spurtle and Alibi the bother! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-25 16:23:20
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Feb 25 2009, 04:19 PM) [snapback]582606[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

It's a standard comment!
mortonjag 2009-02-25 20:57:44
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 25 2009, 05:52 PM) [snapback]582644[/snapback]
And that MJ IS a fact.

It's ironic that you are so full of your facts , figures, and supremely accurate spelling sonny boy-all of those things can easily be got off the internet.

I'm TELLING you that Rae offered in the region of £100k for Gowsa just before he went on loan, and that's the kind of info you only get from folk who are REALLY in the know!

Prove me wrong or stick it where the sun don't shine. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-25 20:59:39
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 25 2009, 04:34 PM) [snapback]582614[/snapback]
naah, he's just going through the motions.......

I'm surprised you can tell the difference.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 21:01:41
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Feb 25 2009, 07:46 PM) [snapback]582682[/snapback]
Whilst I know you jest - I would not want DC as manager.

I always liked him as a player but I've heard he's a bit of a jobby.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 21:26:00
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Feb 25 2009, 04:45 PM) [snapback]582624[/snapback]
I often leave a little Lubbock behind for which I am criticised but it's such a waste of precious water to flush it again! What should we look out for Doc?

The first of many warning signs-blood! Sometimes it's serious, sometimes it's not, and sometimes it's not blood at all! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-25 21:29:59 N1GER-and before you PC arses start I spotted it on the M8 and the driver and all his passengers were very jolly looking black gents who obviously had a great sense of fun.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 21:33:17
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 25 2009, 08:50 PM) [snapback]582713[/snapback]

Not like you to attempt to deflect from the stark reality that bawheid's bluff's been well and truly called Spurtle. ph34r.gif

The hirsute harpy's official book of lies is published tomorrow and I can't wait for a bit of entertainment. She's light years ahead of sheep lips in the farce stakes!
mortonjag 2009-02-25 21:38:37
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Feb 25 2009, 09:28 PM) [snapback]582739[/snapback]
I haven't been to the toilet for about a week now, no water or jobbies coming out.

Do you think I have something wrong with one of my lungs maybe unsure.gif

No-I think you're the embodiment of DI's football philosophy!
mortonjag 2009-02-25 21:41:45
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 25 2009, 09:20 PM) [snapback]582733[/snapback]
I didn't know that actually. I thought you said that the Post Office was irrelevant. British governments thought the same about shipyards, hence these island nations of ours now have our ships built abroad. biggrin.gif
I think that the PO is relevant. I say yes to reform but no to privatisation. And we should nationalise the banks while we still have the chance.

Nothing to do with competition then Edwards? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-25 21:43:09
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 25 2009, 08:30 PM) [snapback]582703[/snapback]
Being bummed to death must be the worst possible way to go.

Especially when the bum's a football manager! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-25 21:47:28
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 25 2009, 09:40 PM) [snapback]582747[/snapback]
Anyone who disagrees with EanieMeany in this instance is deeply, deeply wrong, btw. Just so you know. He's spot on.

As a winger superkev is unadulterated KEECH.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 21:53:28
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Feb 25 2009, 06:35 PM) [snapback]582666[/snapback]
A pal of mine has the surname of Cowe.
His wife had to talk him out of naming their daughter Iona!

How about Rhoda?

Shona Legge was a patient as was Fanny Aitken though Phil McCracken was always known as Philomena.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 22:01:12
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Feb 25 2009, 09:52 PM) [snapback]582752[/snapback]
But Morton aren't playing with wingers...actually, practically no-one in Scotland these days plays with a proper winger. It's all right-midfielders now, which is obviously a great shame for football as a spectacle, but still - it doesn't much matter how good a winger he is when that isn't his job, does it?

What IS his job?

A serious question BTW-same applies to Jimbo.

I still think we should have got rid of them both by now because others in the squad can do what they do and we could replace them with proper wingers.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 22:03:22
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 25 2009, 09:55 PM) [snapback]582754[/snapback]
Yer such a drama queen MJ happy.gif

Aye, the SNP could have done more on class sizes, it would have been nice to do something on that. But in the big scheme of things, so what ?

I'm more concerned about the £billion cut from Westminster to the Scottish budget to be honest.

They can still find £trillions to spend on Trident for instance, but cutting public spending will affect our NHS and Education system etc.
The budget cut to Scotland could cost up to 9 thousand jobs !

So why don't you put aside your blind hatred for Salmond and the SNP for once and get at the real culprits down in London !

I never thought you'd lower yourself to Alibi's level Spurtle.

The truth hurts-eh! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-25 22:05:00
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Feb 25 2009, 09:52 PM) [snapback]582751[/snapback]
Pheewww, thanks for the quick diagnosis as I thought it was something serious biggrin.gif

Not at all Willy Man-just a passing inconvenience!
mortonjag 2009-02-25 22:19:09
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 25 2009, 10:08 PM) [snapback]582763[/snapback]
Reality hurts MJ. dry.gif

YES-reality DOES hurt-the reality that we have a lying conniving con artist as a Health Minister.

The NHS is already fucked and that little tart's telling folk it's 'going to meet demand' with less money in real terms.

Tell me that's not true Spurtle.

Isn't it more a case of your blind hatred of criticism of Bawheid's farce.

He's been found out Spurtle-his goose is cooked! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-25 22:21:18 I've often seen G1GHA in Inverclyde.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 22:22:26
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 25 2009, 10:16 PM) [snapback]582767[/snapback]
Nothing to do with fair competition, no Dr Mentaljag. tongue.gif

Your opinion Mr Edwards! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-25 22:25:54
QUOTE(tontastic @ Feb 25 2009, 10:21 PM) [snapback]582773[/snapback]
You would have to clarify what you mean by "club official".

Yes, I (David Bell) am a photographer for the club. That means that I provide them with pictures from matches for use in the programme or whatever else they require. I don't personally think that makes me an official of the club in the same way the ball boys and programme sellers are not officials of the club. Volunteer yes, Official No. Like I said, depends what *you* mean by official.

No, I am not paid, or recompensed in any way by Morton other than them letting me in for nothing to the games. I don't think that is unreasonable given how much I have to spend on buying and maintaining camera equipment. In this regard I am certainly not an employee in any form of GMFC.

Yes, the forum runs on the same server that I use to host my tontastic web site. This came about when Div was hosting the site but Nacho was running it. The site was often unavailable, so it suited Nacho to move hosting away from Div. I am sure that Nacho can give his own opinion on the transition, but in my opinion it is entirely in the control of "Morton Minded" people now; specifically hosted and run my Morton minded people.

No, I do not run the site. GKR runs the site with the assistance of Bryan. Yes, I am a moderator but rarely take any action other than merging topics or removing obvious exceptions to the rules that are so blatant they require immediate action, which might include unwanted personal abuse, racist or similiar posting.

There are no sinister communications between Castle Cappielow or Millions Mansion to the moderators of the forum. Yes I am sure they read it, but no, they do not get direct myself, GKR or Bryan in what posts/topics to allow. We have had requests in the past for posts to be removed but these fall into the category of unwarranted/unwelcome personal abuse against employees of GMFC rather than censorship. If this site did not exist another one would pop up instantly in its shadow. I don't believe that anyone in this day and age truly believes that they can suppress an online unofficial presence. In this regard, I believe that the forum is 100% independent.

Neither I (and to the best of my knowledge) nor Bryan/GKR would *ever* pull a thread or topic from the forum unless it clearly breached the site rules (House Rules at top of page). Rumours and inuendo are one thing. Naming and shaming of players (for the sake of argument) subject of a report to the procurator fiscal or other Sub judice matters are another.

The purpose of the forum is to give a voice to Morton fans. Long may it continue to do so.


Good.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 22:29:50
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 25 2009, 10:13 PM) [snapback]582766[/snapback]
You know that's not the problem. Weatherson wins his fair share and Wake is just rubbish when it comes to challenging for high balls.

The real problem is that they're being asked to chase and win hopeless, aimless punts.

The real problem on Saturday was that Irons had yet again thoroughly pissed the players off and they weren't exactly pulling out the stops for him. blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-25 22:31:27
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 25 2009, 10:17 PM) [snapback]582768[/snapback]
Right midfielder is his position. His job is to play a balanced role on the right-hand side of the midfield, which he does to the absolute utmost of his ability.

We don't play with wingers. There's a debate as to whether or not we should (and given the standard of full-back in this division I don't think it should be ruled out) but that's not how we play.

I see!
mortonjag 2009-02-25 22:34:16
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Feb 25 2009, 10:28 PM) [snapback]582776[/snapback]
Do they all take each other up the Oxo Tower?

I do believe they get beefed into each other.

This greyhound's farts are absolutely horrendous BTW! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-25 22:44:12
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 25 2009, 10:35 PM) [snapback]582781[/snapback]
I rather think it is Dr Mentaljag. It's certainly not yours.

Depends!
mortonjag 2009-02-25 22:45:54
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 25 2009, 10:36 PM) [snapback]582782[/snapback]
What's wrong with the name 'sheep lips', Mr Rae? rolleyes.gif

Absolutely nothing. I merely asked why I was being called 'sheep lips'.

Sheep have beautiful lips-don't ewe agree?
mortonjag 2009-02-25 22:49:22
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 23 2009, 09:46 PM) [snapback]581663[/snapback]
What do you call Jade Goody in a wedding dress?
A Shuttlec***.

edit to add: wow cant even say shuttlec***, lets go for shuttlec.ock
thats probably been doing the rounds, but i only heard it today.

I think that's a rather inaccurate description. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-25 22:53:52
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 25 2009, 10:48 PM) [snapback]582787[/snapback]
The onus of providing proof is on you - given that you're the one with the 'wacky' claims. The Sunday Mail article from early in the season doesn't count as it mentions nothing about any potential fees for the lad. wink.gif

There is absolutely no obligation on me to 'provide proof'. If you choose to disbelieve me that's your prerogative. It's different if you insinuate that I'm a liar-which is how I read ThornTON's post.

It may be, of course, that he wasn't attempting sarcasm. That would be a first! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-25 22:58:18
QUOTE(Cawston @ Feb 25 2009, 05:44 PM) [snapback]582637[/snapback]
Poor effort, I expected better.

Still, at least you're consistant biggrin.gif

blink.gif

Is that a breed of sheep?
mortonjag 2009-02-25 23:03:58
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 25 2009, 10:56 PM) [snapback]582791[/snapback]
OK, I'm calling you a liar - prove me wrong. wink.gif tongue.gif laugh.gif

I see!

Then as the prosecution I'd like you to cite your evidence firstly, though I'll give you a wee starter.

I've already stated that I got the information from an impeccable source. I know who he is, he knows who he is, Gowsa knows it's true, and Shoogly wouldn't deny it because he is the epitome of honesty.

I'll tell you a lie too. Davie Irons didn't always have sheep lips.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 23:25:37
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Feb 25 2009, 10:04 PM) [snapback]582761[/snapback]
apart from blood what are the signs

should they float or sink?

how many times should you go a day?

I need to know smile.gif

The perfect jobby sinks. VERY smelly jobbies which float may indicate illness.

There is no golden rule about how often a jobby should arrive. Some perfectly healthy bowels are much slower than others.

Orange jobbies support Rangers.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 23:29:58
QUOTE(Toby @ Feb 25 2009, 11:15 PM) [snapback]582798[/snapback]
Don't you like me unsure.gif ?

Been getting that impression recently sad.gif .

I think he's secretly got the hots for you.
mortonjag 2009-02-25 23:38:51
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 25 2009, 11:32 PM) [snapback]582809[/snapback]
Celtic player who knows Paul McGowan. What was your source?

It was £85k and Celtic offered other players (including the person in question) for that money, which was almost accepted until the last minute.

However, I never once called you a liar, I was mocking your overuse of the word fact.

Same one as this!
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mortonjag 2009-02-25 23:44:49
QUOTE(MaxTon1874 @ Feb 25 2009, 11:39 PM) [snapback]582812[/snapback]
Since these threads are pointless and none of us can tell the future by looking into a glass ball I think il have a bash. I predict a 3-0 Dunfermline win and then a Clyde win away in midweek, as a result Irons will be looking for a new job. By that time our erse will be very near if not already touching the bottom of the table, Then the sacking of Mr Irons will be pointless because whoever Mr Rae gets too replace him will be just as crap without the financial backing of his chairman.

So unless Mr Rae wants to invest by giving funds for decent players from time to time, sacking Irons will be a waste of time. We could get Sir Alex Fergie and we would still be in bother, another thing would be to ask who people are wanting to replace Mr Irons.

Many Managers are we going to go through at this club before you realise that serious money is needed to take our club forward. Irons has already proved what he can do when he has the correct financial backing. I rest my case rolleyes.gif . Same every season we are fighting to stay up yet again...........

Botox or collagen?
mortonjag 2009-02-25 23:47:01
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Feb 25 2009, 11:45 PM) [snapback]582815[/snapback]
The chairman of the RSPBA (Royal scottish pipe Band Association) has R5PBA.

Drummer in my pipe band has something along the lines of DRUM33R

Guy who owns my work, flava in gourock, has FL** AVA (* = i don't know what the numbers are)

Seen a really fancy car in glasgow that had the plate 75 K...wanted to put his windows in, just for the craic biggrin.gif

Some are good, but others make no sense. My missus bought a car off someone who was called Jackie and the plate was J444 KKA...didn't get that one myself! huh.gif

1 OEN ?
mortonjag 2009-02-26 07:02:02
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Feb 26 2009, 12:32 AM) [snapback]582829[/snapback]
Did you use it and miss a rare Morton victory?

blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-26 07:05:52
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Feb 26 2009, 12:57 AM) [snapback]582840[/snapback]
I give you:
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDBizarrely we DID take the game to Dunfermline last time and looked quite good. It can still be done.
mortonjag 2009-02-26 07:08:03
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 26 2009, 01:06 AM) [snapback]582846[/snapback]
+1

I don't doubt Finlayson's workrate but IMO he's a decidedly poor footballer and we need more quality in that position.

He is a very good pest when on form-a bit like a stingless wasp, he buzzes about randomly causing minor havoc.
mortonjag 2009-02-26 07:09:31
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 26 2009, 03:16 AM) [snapback]582853[/snapback]
I fancy us to win 2-1 and will be sticking money on it. smile.gif

I'd say that's taking a gamble! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-26 07:11:17
QUOTE(SramTon @ Feb 26 2009, 12:49 AM) [snapback]582837[/snapback]
Chocolate custard?

Black pudding!
mortonjag 2009-02-26 07:14:37
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 26 2009, 07:08 AM) [snapback]582860[/snapback]
Why bitch about it ?? Because they are going to cut 1 £billion from Scottish public services !

If the other "mob" said nothing that that's a great reason to make sure they never see power again in Holyrood for a very long time.

Are you suggesting the SNP government just accept the cuts and say nothing about it then ? blink.gif

Well they don't seem capable of running a menage Spurtle so I don't see another Bannockburn on the horizon.

Nickerless's big expose today, and I'll be dissecting it point by point for your delection!


[attachment=5337:annabel.jpg]
mortonjag 2009-02-26 07:19:00
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 26 2009, 01:03 AM) [snapback]582844[/snapback]
I'm fucking raging I never came out with that one about a year ago. laugh.gif mad.gif

You don't mean SPARROT has shagged a...................erm

oh forget it. mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-26 08:02:20
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 26 2009, 12:56 AM) [snapback]582839[/snapback]
Mine are always rather dark, soft and heavy, they go right to the bottom. Rarely do I have bother squeezing it oot.

That sounds fairly normal-though I'd question the darkness-if they're getting to the nigger brown stage, keep a careful watch. Black jobbies can be an ominous sign.

QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 26 2009, 01:05 AM) [snapback]582845[/snapback]
Mine are smelly and sink like stones. Occasionally they splash water on to the back of my legs and my dangling sack. It's fairly pleasant.

Any particular aroma? Jobbies which smell of roses are almost unknown.
mortonjag 2009-02-26 08:12:18
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 26 2009, 08:06 AM) [snapback]582867[/snapback]
No, no, it's still accurate I think. I just mean it's a bloody obvious one that I wish I'd said first. sad.gif

Ah-still a five finger boogie exponent-thought as much. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-26 08:17:12 6 members are celebrating their birthday today
LauraMcB(27), piehutt(24), edd(23), davidh1874(30), mortonxno1(17), taulfissazils(46)



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[attachment=5339:sSp_bdayballoons1.gif]

mortonjag 2009-02-26 08:50:30
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 26 2009, 08:15 AM) [snapback]582870[/snapback]
Are you saying he's a w@nker?

If not you make him sound like Booker T.

Here's his favourite jerk site!
C'mon SPARROT-gie it laldy!
mortonjag 2009-02-26 08:56:45
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 26 2009, 08:20 AM) [snapback]582873[/snapback]
Happy birthday!

Piehutt's only 24?!

...and STILL hasn't got his hol....................



































































idays arranged.

Happy birthday Piehole. Jaggy wishes you aw ra best!
mortonjag 2009-02-26 09:22:54
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 26 2009, 09:20 AM) [snapback]582887[/snapback]
I see the monkey's back in your avatar....... laugh.gif

He has a selection of masks.
mortonjag 2009-02-26 09:32:55
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 26 2009, 09:25 AM) [snapback]582891[/snapback]
They are all the same mate. There is one in Thornliebank, where my mother in law stays, and they charge more than any other local shop including Sainsburys!!



• SPAR was founded in the Netherlands in 1932 by Adriaan Van Wells.

• SPAR’s name comes from the DESPAAR, Door Eendrachtig Samenwerken Profiteren Allen Regelmatig, which means ‘By United Cooperation All Will Profit’.

• SPAR is a symbol group, which means individual SPAR members remain independent but enjoy access to collective buying and marketing power.

• SPAR is the UK convenience market leader, with a turnover is in excess of �2.7 billion.

• SPAR businesses in the UK employ more than 50,000 people.

• SPAR owners have won more than 100 major industry awards in the past 3 years.


• SPAR UK has six Retail Distribution Centres (RDCs), which offer local retailers everything from the freshest food to financial packages and state of the art equipment.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-26 10:03:23
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 26 2009, 09:45 AM) [snapback]582897[/snapback]
Ok, but why did you give us this info MJ?? happy.gif

Just in case Pedro thought they were one of Leish's enterprises! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-26 11:04:16
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Feb 26 2009, 10:36 AM) [snapback]582910[/snapback]
It was one of our better league performances so far this season, but even then I thought we counter-attacked rather than take the game to Dunfermline. We were also put under pressure for large periods of the second half relying on great performances from Shimmin/McManus to restrict Pars' chances.

We actually gave them quite a roasting for the first half hour-Grady was orchestrating a lot of nice one touch passing moves-we looked good for a while. After that what you've said became true.
mortonjag 2009-02-26 11:08:25
QUOTE(Cawston @ Feb 26 2009, 10:54 AM) [snapback]582926[/snapback]
It's sad to see what the once proud campaigner against personal attacks has been reduced to.

For shame tongue.gif sad.gif

laugh.gif blink.gif

No, no-not a personal attack-that's being paranoid-just a wee slap back for your impertinence! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-26 11:12:08 Patient-Doctor my penis is shaped like a rocket.

Doctor-good gracious, so it is-what does your wife think?

Patient-Oh she's over the moon.




mortonjag 2009-02-26 11:23:42
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 26 2009, 10:20 AM) [snapback]582905[/snapback]
If I can chip in my tuppenceworth on this class size business, my view is that the verdict so far is "must do better". I accept that a minority government can't implement its manifesto without the opposition agreeing with it, and in the case of the SNP government there is a large part of the opposition which has no interest in what is best for Scotland or even good for Scotland but simply wants to damage and destroy anything the SNP tries to do.

The class size thing was in the manifesto and in my view it should be implemented as stated or as close to it as possible - if current financial constraints meant it couldn't be implemented 100%, then I think most people would accept that achieving say 20 pupils per class would be a big step in the right direction (I don't think the figure of 18 has any magic qualities compared to 19 or 17 in educational terms). Actually I think the figure to look at is what the average class size becomes - if class sizes were say 25 and dropped to 20, that's a pretty fair achievement even if no classes actually get down to 18. If however you end up with 10% of classes at 18 and 90% at 25 then that's frankly not as good even if part of the target appears to have been met. I'm not sure if I am explaining what I mean there too well!

My view is that the current government are doing a lot better than the last lot, despite the difficult circumstances of trying to do things while under constant fire from a hostile UK government and an equally hostile media (the last lot just took orders from London and never tried anything remotely against the wishes of their London masters). The lack of financial powers is a huge handicap to a government (as opposed to a puppet executive). I understand some of the criticisms although I think in the case of MJ in particular there are no constructive alternatives being suggested, just blind hatred and a seeming unhealthy obsession with Nicola Sturgeon. As Colkitto says, it's really a matter of divvying up the pocket money, and if you are forced to waste money on trams, a corresponding cut has to be made somewhere else unless you can raise revenue in some other way.

I really hope this government does succeed against all the obstacles being placed in its path, because if they let us down, there is a possibilty of the crooks and cretins of the Labour Party sneaking back into power and that prospect doesn't bear thinking about. If you are a staunch unionist, you probaby think that's a good thing, but if you are confident enough about yourself to want independence, which is the natural state of affairs, then frankly the SNP is the only game in town.


Alibi, I'd like to ask you a very serious question.

It's about blindness and unhealthy obsessions.

You're a bright chap-I shouldn't need to say more.

Just in case, here's a wee clue: [attachment=5340:sFl_scotland2_1_.gif]






Sturgeon has an impossible task. I know that, and you know that. I don't hate the wee soul at all, but I vehemently ABHOR the fact that she refuses to come clean on the issue, and so long as she persists with her hype and deceipt, I shall continue to pillory her.


Does that seem reasonable?
mortonjag 2009-02-26 11:26:18
QUOTE(dazed @ Feb 26 2009, 10:47 AM) [snapback]582919[/snapback]
MJ, why the photo of the pink suited heifer???? have you gone bonkers? Wee Nichole will be green eyed with envy!

I think I can confidently say your newly aquired hound is better looking than the Bishopton Bruiser! laugh.gif Recommend an imediate eye test for you! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I wanted to use the sexy picture of Nickerless and Spurtle stole it-I'm in the huff.
mortonjag 2009-02-26 11:32:16 Busty barmaid-Joanna Short.
mortonjag 2009-02-26 11:38:31
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 26 2009, 11:03 AM) [snapback]582937[/snapback]
Surely somewhere there must be a Karen Van Rentl.......

Sticking with the Dutch names


H E Bols

and

Drew P Bols

and surely there must be a German called Drew P Titz.
mortonjag 2009-02-26 11:44:04
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Feb 26 2009, 11:34 AM) [snapback]582951[/snapback]
as do I.

So...........good, then.

Though Mr Irons might object to the very accurate allusion.
mortonjag 2009-02-26 13:48:15
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 26 2009, 11:50 AM) [snapback]582958[/snapback]
Yes, but the thing is, nobody's saying he's god's gift. What they are saying is that in the current squad, in the current team, which we're stuck with until summer, he is doing a very good job considering his ability. Is he a long-term answer for a First Division challenge? No, at least not as a first XI player. (Coming off the bench to provide energy, I maintain that he could do a job.) But is he, in the current scheme of things, worthy of praise? Absolutely.

I have no idea why he attracts the criticism that he does.
None whatsoever. Actually I have one idea: the people who slam him close their eyes whenever he's not on the ball, because they're missing a massive part of his contribution.

I wonder if it might be that they have not yet realised he's a right sided midfielder who isn't supposed to touch the ball.
mortonjag 2009-02-26 13:52:50
QUOTE(centralTON @ Feb 26 2009, 12:27 PM) [snapback]582969[/snapback]
Me and Mrs. CT saw her at Buchanan St. underground station last Wednesday, Got to be honest, she looked a lot better in the flesh than she does on TV.

Happy Birthday to one and all.

I know Central-if more folk could see big Annabel the way you did the Tory vote would rise quickly! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-26 13:57:10
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 26 2009, 12:54 PM) [snapback]582982[/snapback]
biggrin.gif

I have received a warning laugh.gif

I am so chuffed by this latest development I am taking a screenshot to frame and hang on my wall pride of place.

laugh.gif DO TELL!

You didn't call somebody a bunk bed perchance?
mortonjag 2009-02-26 13:59:42 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Stereotypes indeed.
mortonjag 2009-02-26 14:01:14
QUOTE(Loveless @ Feb 26 2009, 01:13 PM) [snapback]582994[/snapback]
That is true, all my nurses say I'm hilarious, and they assure me they're laughing WITH me.

I hope you get better soon.
mortonjag 2009-02-26 14:06:33
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Feb 26 2009, 01:33 PM) [snapback]583004[/snapback]
Anyhoo, back on topic.

There was a baptism at my church on Sunday,
where members of the party were still coming in 20 minutes after the service started (after the baptism had taken place!) and chatted through the prayers.

There have been other christenings when people have com into the church 45 minutes late.

Now, religious or not, that's just downright ignorant.

You're sounding like Shoogly!
mortonjag 2009-02-26 14:12:59 Guy arrived at A & E with his foreskin trapped in the fly. Nurses wet themselves when they discovered his name was Willie Scott.
mortonjag 2009-02-26 14:17:18
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 26 2009, 02:11 PM) [snapback]583023[/snapback]
I think you've just made that last part up.

No you don't.

..though it might be more to do with the fact that when he DOES attack, he almost invariably runs into trouble. He's been the most frustrating player at Cappielow for years in that respect. In fairness he's improved quite a bit during the last season.
mortonjag 2009-02-26 14:21:50
QUOTE(Loveless @ Feb 26 2009, 01:28 PM) [snapback]583000[/snapback]
Bloody right.

Although I'm the first to admit the NHS pension is very good if you're prepared to work there for most of your life.

I can attest to that fact, though it's rapidly being eroded by my Private Psychiatrist's fees.
mortonjag 2009-02-26 14:32:50 I've reluctantly accepted their undeniable success. They've pissed all over us in more ways than one but maybe we should be taking a leaf out of their book-starting at the very top Mr Rae.

Hamilton
mortonjag 2009-02-26 14:36:44
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 26 2009, 02:26 PM) [snapback]583030[/snapback]
Do you pay for his psychiatrist also?

Do you think I'm bloody Jekyll and Hyde?
mortonjag 2009-02-26 14:47:02
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Feb 26 2009, 02:34 PM) [snapback]583034[/snapback]
What about the rare phenomonen of GIANT JOBBIES? I went to the college loo recently and there was a feckin' shoomungous saltwater crocodile lying there! And that's the second time in recent weeks there. Does someone have a rare medical condition or just a very elastic bangle? blink.gif

laugh.gif The size of normal jobbies varies quite a bit from person to person. People with abnormally slow bowels can produce unbelievably large tolies-as you suggest it's hard to believe they actually negotiated the bumhole!!

Remember though, that a newborn baby's head is even bigger than the most ginormous jobby you'll ever see!

The human body is truly a wondrous invention-we have much to thank God for.
mortonjag 2009-02-26 14:55:04 In January 1965, Ian Paisley lobbed snowballs at Sean Lemass's car at Stormont, as he arrived for a meeting.
mortonjag 2009-02-26 14:58:08
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Feb 26 2009, 02:55 PM) [snapback]583056[/snapback]
No worse than Jim McAlister's though.

In recent times it has, sad to say, been BETTER!
mortonjag 2009-02-26 15:00:53
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 26 2009, 02:47 PM) [snapback]583042[/snapback]
I'm pleased to hear that Gub Joiners and Quacks are well looked after with an obscene pension, just like the Posties and Fred the Shred. tongue.gif

Is that the same as a fucking lump sum?
mortonjag 2009-02-26 15:02:45
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 26 2009, 02:52 PM) [snapback]583050[/snapback]
Nope, because I asked. tongue.gif

I was getting so jealous with warnings flying everywhere and little old me being ignored I requested one and Bryan duly obliged.

I now feel part of the club. biggrin.gif

Cheers Bryan wink.gif

Well I would have been absolutely furious if he'd broken the mould and given you one you deserved! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-26 15:04:08
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Feb 26 2009, 02:55 PM) [snapback]583055[/snapback]
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Sorry. I should have said "at the church which I attend."

Are you a Methodist?
mortonjag 2009-02-26 15:10:44
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 26 2009, 03:03 PM) [snapback]583064[/snapback]
Dunno, ask the Gub Joiner. It's his term, not mine.

I see. Isn't that a rather demeaning term for a fellow professional Mr Edwards. I prefer to call him a Tooth Mechanic.

I think I'll start calling architects 'Hitchcocks'.
mortonjag 2009-02-26 15:13:12
QUOTE(jpmil @ Feb 26 2009, 03:10 PM) [snapback]583069[/snapback]
When he first arrived he played the sitting mid-fielder pretty well but then "someone"** decided that he would become the "play-maker" mid-fielder a task for which he doesn't have the ability to do and is therfore totally unable to fulfil.

**"someone" - answers on a postcard to Cappielow Park.

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mortonjag 2009-02-26 15:14:43
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 26 2009, 03:12 PM) [snapback]583072[/snapback]
Feel free. We've been called worse.

whores? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-26 15:41:20
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Feb 26 2009, 03:30 PM) [snapback]583084[/snapback]
Pretty much what I said earlier! These kind of decisions are a big part of what is going wrong, yet most people seem to think it's as simple as being a "centre mid" - Masterton has had the same problem, likewise Jenkins. Also witht he forwards and wing players. Most people, including Davie Irons.

I remember him playing at Palmerston last season in one of his first matches-in fact it was maybe his debut for us. The difference he made to what had been a pretty weak midfield was very obvious. Used properly the big man is worth a place-but then that's the problem isn't it-we criticised JM for it and it really hasn't improved.
mortonjag 2009-02-26 15:43:46
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Feb 26 2009, 03:34 PM) [snapback]583086[/snapback]
Indeed, and that is partly what I meant by him not allowing his weaknesses to come in to play. Kev used to just hit a hopeless cross in every time, but now he'll hold the ball a bit, look for a another pass, and if he decides to cross then it is usually much more accurate because he's stopped to think about it. Perhaps if he didn't have such a glaikit running style he'd be better appreciated.

Neither will ever be a 'winger' but in terms of improvement this season Finners gets a big plus and Jimbo quite the reverse.
mortonjag 2009-02-26 15:45:48
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 26 2009, 03:21 PM) [snapback]583081[/snapback]
Nope, I'm with "Real Hoops" on this one - the words "Paisley" and "Snowball" together don't really provide an obvious connection....... I'm guessing it's something to do with pee but I don't really see how it's obvious unless you already knew what it was....... so who's gonna enlighten us?

Agreed-I've never heard the term. Went to school in Paisley and know the place pretty well! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-26 15:47:46
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 26 2009, 03:45 PM) [snapback]583093[/snapback]
You can level that jibe at anyone who sells his labour, even at noble professionals, like Quacks and Gub Joiners. laugh.gif

You'd never call Mr Bam a whore!
mortonjag 2009-02-26 15:56:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 26 2009, 03:48 PM) [snapback]583096[/snapback]
Mr Bam, you're a wh*re.

I knew you'd bottle it at the last minute Edwards! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-26 16:11:47
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Feb 26 2009, 04:03 PM) [snapback]583104[/snapback]
Again, who in Scotland plays with genuine wingers now? By genuine, I mean a guy like Joaquin or Robben (to a lesser extent, perhaps), or Giggs in his heyday? No-one, would be the answer, the closest anyone gets is a wide midfielder who is slightly more attacking. It's the same as the idea of someone "playing in the hole". All that means in Scotland these days is what luck players have on a post-match night out.

I'm not sure-I don't really dissect the game that much and I don't watch much football except for the Ton. I don't believe for one minute that there are no longer the Wee Willie Hendersons and Jinkys of my generation. If they've been coached out of it, more's the pity. I REALLY wish some of our younger fans (and I'm getting old) could have seen the forward line of Adamson, Stevenson, Caven, McGraw, and Wilson.

PURE entertainment and goals aplenty. We didn't have the greatest defence and we didn't need it.

Are you hearing me Mr Irons? dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-26 16:17:42
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 26 2009, 04:03 PM) [snapback]583103[/snapback]
I tried your technique twice in an edit to beat the swear filter, but I must have fecked up. Damn and blast you, you wh*re. laugh.gif

Knotty boy!
mortonjag 2009-02-26 16:19:05
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Feb 26 2009, 04:04 PM) [snapback]583105[/snapback]
Would you and if so......

Which one would be first
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mortonjag 2009-02-26 16:21:13
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 26 2009, 04:12 PM) [snapback]583112[/snapback]
I agree with you, and disagree strongly with Colkitto. Of course it matters. If it was in the manifesto then of course an attempt should be made to deliver it. If for some valid reason it can't be done, the reasons for not doing it should be explained. There are still more than 2 years of the parliament to run and I would expect substantial progress to be made during that time.

The other side of the coin however is that without fiscal autonomy, any manifesto that is subject to the modifications imposed by an obstructive opposition is a bit precarious. That would of course apply to all parties, but in previous parliamentary terms, the SNP in opposition didn't adopt a scorched earth policy to obstruct Labour but instead acted in a responsible manner (as I believe the tories of all people are doing currently in Scotland).

So, to sum up, I consider that it is vital that as much of the manifesto as possible should be delivered - if the opposition block everything then at least the SNP government has tried. I don't consider it acceptable to say one thing and do another without a valid reason.

I'm glad you agree with me about Ms. Sturgeon.
mortonjag 2009-02-26 18:59:55
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Feb 26 2009, 04:21 PM) [snapback]583124[/snapback]
I see you've changed your avatar from a wee fast dug to an overweight,slow (in all senses of the word)bitch!!

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mortonjag 2009-02-26 19:04:24
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 26 2009, 04:56 PM) [snapback]583150[/snapback]
I was speaking to Davy Irons yesterday in Dumfries - I did wonder what he was doing down here at lunchtime on a training day - and I reckon he agrees with a lot of the points raised on this forum. I also think we may see some changes on Saturday that will be welcomed by a lot of us who were at Firhill.

Talk is cheap!

Actions speak MUCH louder than words.

It is, however, reassuring to know that you've pointed out the error of his ways! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-26 19:08:45
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Feb 26 2009, 06:46 PM) [snapback]583172[/snapback]
Who exactly do you refer to?

The two fittest players at the club are Kevin Finlayson and Jim McAlister, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that is what the sports science testing showed. They are also two of the fastest, if not the fastest players at the club. If either of them could hit a regularly good cross they would be playing in the SPL. Based on their attributes, I don't think that there is anybody else in the squad who could do as good a job as the current two wide midfielders, which is not necessarily a good thing. McGuffie was pretty decent on the right at the start of the season. Russell has played in both wide areas, but usually in a front 3 as opposed to a midfield 4.

....and I I was twelve feet taller I could eat leaves off a tree just like a giraffe!


Sometimes you talk a power of pish. wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-26 19:13:57
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 26 2009, 04:20 PM) [snapback]583123[/snapback]
Notice Mortonjag not apologising for trying to claim tontastic was a club official.
Oh well, can't always be right can we Doc tongue.gif

Tontastic is an official club photographer and will remain so until his name is removed from the official list in the match day programme.

I was VERY gentle with Tontastic.

Let sleeping dogs lie you deformed little poison dwarf. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-26 19:16:37
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 26 2009, 04:52 PM) [snapback]583145[/snapback]
I don't agree with you about anything... smile.gif

How you demean yourself! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-26 19:18:45
QUOTE(Loveless @ Feb 26 2009, 06:29 PM) [snapback]583165[/snapback]
Sorry I should have said "nurses".

I hope they all have beautifully gleaming white teeth and humungous tits-both essentials for a successful dental practice! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-26 19:19:56
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Feb 26 2009, 04:19 PM) [snapback]583122[/snapback]
The Desperate Housewives.

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mortonjag 2009-02-26 19:24:29
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 26 2009, 04:54 PM) [snapback]583147[/snapback]
I'm sure that the pair of you would be loathe to miss it. For McBrearty; to shed a tear at his mentor's downfall and for McArthur; to complete his conversion to neo-conservatism. biggrin.gif
I'll give it a watch as well, though purely out of historical interest. biggrin.gif Apparently Michael Maloney plays a 'sinister' John Major. Comedy gold it might be.

What's it about? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-26 19:27:54
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Feb 26 2009, 06:52 PM) [snapback]583178[/snapback]
that is pretty sick

never happens in real life I reckon

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mortonjag 2009-02-26 19:30:32
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Feb 26 2009, 04:54 PM) [snapback]583148[/snapback]
The daftie was trying to get me to go ghost-hunting with him sleep.gif

Does Mr Irons not give him the Willies?
mortonjag 2009-02-26 19:33:27
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 26 2009, 07:21 PM) [snapback]583190[/snapback]
Bet you wish you could smell fish as well, eh? blush.gif

That's a plaice the wee sole still breams about.
mortonjag 2009-02-26 19:36:03
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 26 2009, 07:33 PM) [snapback]583198[/snapback]
Your avatar would know.

Answer the question!
mortonjag 2009-02-26 19:40:07
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 26 2009, 07:35 PM) [snapback]583200[/snapback]
I've a very, very high success rate this season. smile.gif

In fact, I've won virtually every week since August. happy.gif

If I put on £100 quid and lose will you reimburse me? I'll give you £50 if I win!!! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-26 19:42:07
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 26 2009, 07:40 PM) [snapback]583203[/snapback]
Errrrrrrm I think it's about Margaret Thatcher. Sorry to be so abstruse but there was at least a cryptic clue in the title. laugh.gif

OH-I guess the forum will be dead from 8.55 on then! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-26 20:27:22
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 26 2009, 08:04 PM) [snapback]583214[/snapback]
But not so with puggsy ton. Your last is completely out of order.

I beg your pardon!

The recipient is as well aware of the nature of the comment as I have been of his regular poison darts. I think my description is quite mild, given his inimitable penchant for stirring trouble before retreating to chuckle from the sidelines! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-26 20:42:24
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 26 2009, 08:32 PM) [snapback]583220[/snapback]
No pardon offered or given at this time by me I'm afraid. I'll wait and see what the 'recipient' says.

You'd have been better advised to wait and see before you jumped in with both feet. If you require further explanation, feel free to p.m. me!
mortonjag 2009-02-26 21:12:57
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 26 2009, 09:01 PM) [snapback]583227[/snapback]
You can't handle the truth laugh.gif

Where we differ on independence is you won't have a free Scotland at any cost, I would.

To me it's not about finance. I understand that to many that is the case. If there was a referendum tomorrow with two scenario's. One that mean't I would be worse off in an independent Scotland, and one that mean't that I would be better off, my X still goes in the YES box regardless.

You talk about Iain Hamilton. Did he think about the future financial implications of Scotland being independent when he took the Stone of Destiny from Westminster ? I'm of the opinion he didn't give it a second thought.

We can spout statistics for the next 50 years to each other, and have endless arguments of whether Scotland will be better or worse off as an independent nation in it's own right.

I vote SNP primarily because they are a party I believe can deliver independence. I also happen to believe they are the best party out of them all at this moment in time. Light years ahead of Labour, the irrelevant Tories, and the soon to be obliterated Lib-Dems

But if they can't deliver on getting less weans in a classroom when in the process of delivering independence, I'm naw going to lose sleep over it.

Let's just do it ffs !


That is idealistic Spurtle, and idealism is arguably commendable.

Where your argument falls flat on its face is that you persistently idolise a creature whose raison d'etre is lining his own pocket both figuratively and factually.

You can't have it both ways.
mortonjag 2009-02-27 06:13:15
QUOTE(tontastic @ Feb 26 2009, 10:13 PM) [snapback]583251[/snapback]
I was VERY gentle with mortonjag.

You were indeed darling. I NEVER thought you'd make it official! wub.gif

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 26 2009, 11:59 PM) [snapback]583289[/snapback]
laugh.gif There you go with the advice again. I reckon Doctors are even more patronising than Teachers. Sorry, but referring to someone as a 'deformed little dwarf' is not on in my book, whatever the context.

No need to apologise Edwards! ph34r.gif

signed


MENTALJAG


QUOTE(hayfever @ Feb 27 2009, 04:15 AM) [snapback]583306[/snapback]
A discussion forum such as this, which is essentially user content driven, is only as good as it's users (and their content).

I love the threads that constantly appear on here about 'how good it used to be.' F^ck me - the irony! Do something about it then you miserable bunch of w@nkers.

Oh dear, another paranoid soul patronises our poor defender of the innocent.

Careful or he'll be calling you the Melbourne Maniac-maybe even the Queensland Quasimodo!

signed


Mentaljag- the tiny, twisted, toxic poison dwarf of the Shawlands Cellar. [attachment=5348:sneaky.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-27 06:30:29
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 26 2009, 09:22 PM) [snapback]583236[/snapback]
I know, mate. It's common knowledge he'd blown it on wage increases for guys like Harding, Greacen etc.

However, was the budget he was given really EVER going to be enough to correct the shambles he inherited? The team needed a total revamp which is why I'm prepared to bite my lip for a bit longer as he shapes the team. It was never going to be an overnight fix.

If we're still as appalling to watch once we've attained natural full backs and a properly balanced squad we'll all have a clearer picture of Irons' capabilites as a manager.

I don't think leopards are capable of changing their spots. It's becoming evident that Irons is an even worse man manager than he is a coach or tactician. Money won't change that.

QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Feb 26 2009, 10:00 PM) [snapback]583245[/snapback]
Quite. Maybe we'll see you at the next Q&A after all? laugh.gif laugh.gif

If you'd care to introduce yourself instead of hiding behind an alias, Anus, I'll happily give you a free examination this Saturday. Until you do-you remain a bawbag! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-27 06:34:16
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Feb 27 2009, 12:51 AM) [snapback]583296[/snapback]
more whoppers on here than burger king, will believe it when i see it

So you don't know otherwise but choose to describe the news as 'whoppers'!

Is a whopper not a great big deliberate lie? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-27 06:36:48
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Feb 26 2009, 11:06 PM) [snapback]583269[/snapback]
If it happens, it'll be on a much longer time scale than Hamilton took. IMO people thinking we should be aiming to challenge for promotion next season or in two seasons are being far too optimistic. We'll need years at this level of building the correct infrastructure, along with an adequate youth setup, before we're really ready to think about promotion.

Hamilton took four years with everything already in place, we'll need a lot more.

We have almost everything that Gretna lacked. I'm sure Mr Donald's involvement will accelerate matters.
mortonjag 2009-02-27 06:40:42
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 26 2009, 09:37 PM) [snapback]583241[/snapback]
It's the SNP I vote for not Labour. You got it wrong again MJ.

You're struggling Spurtle! [attachment=5349:nono.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-27 06:42:06
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 26 2009, 11:26 PM) [snapback]583278[/snapback]
Why not assassinate Brown as well, because he sanctioned it. Fred the Shred was one of his favourite bankers 'til it all went tits up.

That is out of order. mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-27 06:49:42
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 26 2009, 11:02 PM) [snapback]583266[/snapback]
I'm Nick and my wife is Liz. Her car is L12NCK

Blush!!

Lie to Nick? laugh.gif

QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Feb 26 2009, 11:30 PM) [snapback]583280[/snapback]
Why do people by regd plates which don't actually coincide with their name or have letters back to front/mixed up etc - I can't understood it ???

It all started off years ago because folk wanted to 'personalise' their cars. You could only use numbers legitimately issued by the DVLC in normal production. For example 10EN (my plate) would originally have been issued back in the thirties or forties I'd guess.

A few years back the DVLA changed the rules and began marketing plates to make money. Such has been their greed and the naivety of the public that virtually meaningless plates now abound.

At least you can make something of Nick's!
mortonjag 2009-02-27 06:57:55
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 26 2009, 11:51 PM) [snapback]583286[/snapback]
I'd class Greenock as a Celtic town. It is only when you go to Rangers towns (Shotts being my first experience of this) that you really notice the difference.

Sadly, remember we do have the biggest Celtic supporters club in the world outside of Glasgow.

Something in the air-a different smell perhaps?

I've never thought of Greenock as being a 'Celtic' town any more than Kilmarnock is a 'Rangers' town, though I know what you're driving at.

Coatbridge, for example, is full of Tims while Larkhall is overladen with Huns.
mortonjag 2009-02-27 07:02:12
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 27 2009, 06:51 AM) [snapback]583316[/snapback]
laugh.gif

Stop trying to patronise me with a SMILEY. mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-27 07:08:26 Genital warts are no laughing matter. I'd post a couple of pictures in a genuine attempt at education/aversion therapy but they'd be deemed NSFW.

Health education is not suitable for work-our Mods are off their fuckin rockers!

Wear a condom-at least that's one way the Proddies can keep their Willies beautiful.

If Willy Man's telling the truth he's been a silly boy! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-27 07:11:57
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 26 2009, 11:56 PM) [snapback]583288[/snapback]
Getting your oats bloody? huh.gif

Who do you think you're calling 'bloody' poison dwarf? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-27 07:18:55 Those patronising teachers-EH!


because architects preferred lower-case writing from a "design perspective".


Aye WRITE! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-27 07:23:55
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 27 2009, 07:22 AM) [snapback]583323[/snapback]
Let's face it, Elgin have almost everything Gretna lacked Douglas.

Very true Peter-do you think sheep lips may become their manager in the future?
mortonjag 2009-02-27 08:03:28
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 27 2009, 07:49 AM) [snapback]583331[/snapback]
No - it would be a bastard driving from Dumfries every day.

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mortonjag 2009-02-27 08:05:44
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 27 2009, 07:46 AM) [snapback]583327[/snapback]
I agree totally.

signed

david edwards

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mortonjag 2009-02-27 08:08:29


QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 27 2009, 07:47 AM) [snapback]583328[/snapback]
Somebody's taken the huff. laugh.gif

Don't be silly for a second time! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-27 08:10:25
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 27 2009, 08:01 AM) [snapback]583332[/snapback]
Naw, we don't want to do anything ridiculous. Paying the man £693k per annum for life out of taxpayers money makes perfect sense after all. A just reward for a man that presided over the biggest loss in banking history and left a further £300 billion in toxic debt 'assets'. That must be worthy of a knighthood (haud on, his erstwhile pal Gordy's already done that).

He shares attributes with your hero at Feart Matilda-wouldn't you say? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-27 09:05:11
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 27 2009, 08:12 AM) [snapback]583337[/snapback]
I'm appalled by this statement ya old coffin dodger!
....I'm not deformed!!! happy.gif
And I think as tontastic has said he is not an official you owe him an apology.

Funny how you'd want to let sleeping dogs lie on this but on none of your 'crusades' on here eh tongue.gif

Go on, please spill all about our Tontastic, I'm sure if there is something to say it will be worth saying.

...or is it the usual jaggy sh1t or get off the pot method of posting here? wink.gif

I'm unsurprised that that's what you think. I presume you'd jump off a pier if Tontastic bade you. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-27 09:49:15
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Feb 27 2009, 09:47 AM) [snapback]583364[/snapback]
Is it not a penis over 10 inches

Nope-but don't worry-treatment is at hand.
mortonjag 2009-02-27 09:50:41
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 27 2009, 09:41 AM) [snapback]583360[/snapback]
Another tip-top contribution from MJ. smile.gif

By the way, can't be arsed checking - but why is dear old Annabel Goldie holding a couple of CD's to her lugholes in your avatar?

They had run out of pies.
mortonjag 2009-02-27 09:53:17
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 27 2009, 09:42 AM) [snapback]583362[/snapback]
Whatever happened to innocent until proved otherwise? Poor man ... laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2009-02-27 09:57:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 27 2009, 08:20 AM) [snapback]583343[/snapback]
laugh.gif I have no heroes at all, never mind at Fort Matilda. If you're drawing comparisons with Fred the Shred, yer pal Alistair 'Where's his Troosers' might be a better match.

I have no pals at all, especially at Feart Matilda!
mortonjag 2009-02-27 10:05:12
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 27 2009, 09:59 AM) [snapback]583371[/snapback]
you can keep yer treatment - I'm not havin two inces taken off mine for anybody.......

You have a pubic foot?
mortonjag 2009-02-27 13:00:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 27 2009, 12:13 PM) [snapback]583427[/snapback]
Aye cos he never gave a big list of reasons as to why he is not an official.
....wait, he totally did!

Tontastic is an official club photographer. He stated that when he said it depends what you mean by official.

Somebody who is listed in the official match day programme is perceived as 'official' by folk without an agenda. I'm sure that Tontastic will ask to be removed from the official list in the official match day programme if he wishes not to be perceived to be 'official' by logical people.

I'm equally sure that he'd be happy enough to let this matter drop now-as I am, rather than fall victim to your twisted poison dwarfism!.

mortonjag 2009-02-27 13:14:09 Lots of private plates about here. Just came back with the messages and spotted MAJ1K on a black Merc.
mortonjag 2009-02-27 13:16:02
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 27 2009, 12:55 PM) [snapback]583447[/snapback]
My mate used to wear a herpes on his head. blush.gif

Most have it on their helmets.
mortonjag 2009-02-27 13:20:34
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 27 2009, 12:51 PM) [snapback]583444[/snapback]
I think Jenkins will make a big difference. Most times I have seen him play (often as a sub) he has got the tackles in and won the ball, and tried to run at the opposing defence with the ball. Against QoS earlier in the season, he was toying with Stevie Tosh (cue MJ with some homoerotic comment...) and scored a great goal. Against St Johnstone, he went haring upfield looking to flatten Alan Main when he came out his area to clear a loose ball and nearly won it despite it looking a hopeless cause. Jenkins when he is fit adds a lot to the team, compensating for the lack of Chris Miller in a way, that Masterton doesn't provide. He is the nearest thing to a creative midfielder that we have at the moment, strength and a bit of skill, and drive. Would that McGuffie would show the same drive.

Agreed-he always looks as though he means business (even without somebody to tinker with).
mortonjag 2009-02-27 13:57:57
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 27 2009, 01:54 PM) [snapback]583486[/snapback]
I've told you old yin! I'm not poisoned! Just misunderstood wink.gif
Ever going to get off that pot then?

Tontastic is a club official.
[attachment=5352:official...ographer.jpg]
mortonjag 2009-02-27 14:05:11
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 27 2009, 01:47 PM) [snapback]583479[/snapback]
I've also heard stuff along these lines. In saying that the rumour is that no one - and I mean no one - at Cappielow gets on with Irons.

There was further discontent among the players both prior to and immediately after last week's match-engendered by DI's bullying. I'm afraid I don't have a video-just a first hand story from an eye witness.
mortonjag 2009-02-27 14:25:39
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 27 2009, 01:50 PM) [snapback]583484[/snapback]
This any help? mellow.gif

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and for more serious cases:

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mortonjag 2009-02-27 14:29:45
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 27 2009, 02:13 PM) [snapback]583493[/snapback]
No - it's because we have so many illegitimate supporters and bad grammar! mad.gif

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mortonjag 2009-02-27 14:30:59 Does anybody have stats for the season we got promotion from the third division?
mortonjag 2009-02-27 14:33:15
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Feb 27 2009, 02:29 PM) [snapback]583497[/snapback]
Irons has given a few hints of what the team will be, looking at a summary of his quotes:

“We’ll be looking to change things for tomorrow. James Grady looked fit when he came on against Thistle and he changed the game a bit. Iain Russell is also champing at the bit to get back in and Peter Weatherson has done well for us, even if he didn’t have one of his best games last week.
“I will be looking to accommodate them all if I can, at least at some point.â€
The manager commented: “Allan Jenkins is back after a calf strain. We couldn’t risk playing him last week, but he is fully fit now and will come into the reckoning.
“There are three candidates for the two central midfield positions — McGuffie, Jenkins and Paartalu.â€

From these clues I would say the team could look like this:

-----------------------------------------Cuthbert----------------------------------------

Walker----------------Greacen------------------------Shimmin-----------------Smith

Finlayson--------------Jenkins------------------------Paartalu------------------Russell

------------------------Weatherson--------------------Grady---------------------------

It's hard to imagine Jimbo being dropped, so possibly Russell coming on as a sub. or replacing Finlayson. Paartalu and McGuffie surely couldn't play in the same midfield so it's either alongside Jenkins, I'd give Eric a chance sitting deep with Jenkins charging forward.


It's been coming for a long time.
mortonjag 2009-02-27 14:42:07
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Feb 27 2009, 02:38 PM) [snapback]583500[/snapback]
MJ in 'gies the figures so I can bash Dougie' shock. I'm sure the crowds were higher then due to the fact that fans always follow a winning team. laugh.gif laugh.gif

Do you have the figures?
mortonjag 2009-02-27 14:44:49
QUOTE(moneton!!! @ Feb 27 2009, 02:43 PM) [snapback]583502[/snapback]
With the Peterhead game included 2378

without 2018

Thank you-and the season we won the second?
mortonjag 2009-02-27 15:02:47
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 27 2009, 02:58 PM) [snapback]583507[/snapback]
"Do as I SAY, not as I do......." laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

CORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRECT! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-27 15:05:32
QUOTE(moneton!!! @ Feb 27 2009, 02:49 PM) [snapback]583504[/snapback]
2638

without the Stranraer game at the end of the season its 2484

Thanks again. In other words the crowds are not hugely down at all. I think that if we could just start playing attractive football, we'd soon be pushing 3000 again.
mortonjag 2009-02-27 15:09:12 I certainly like the idea of Spoonsy LEAFY and Grady up front.

Our home record's still pretty good. If they're motivated we can win it.
mortonjag 2009-02-27 15:28:25 Dick Van Dyke?
mortonjag 2009-02-27 15:30:45
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 27 2009, 03:13 PM) [snapback]583520[/snapback]
and, as mortonjag also likes to say, a preposition is not a word to end a sentence with.

OOPS....... blink.gif

That would be a release!
mortonjag 2009-02-27 15:33:00
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 27 2009, 03:18 PM) [snapback]583521[/snapback]
watch oot - he's rolling his arse again....... laugh.gif

Talking of arses-I'm wondering if Gordy Pordy's just jealous of that banker chappie!
mortonjag 2009-02-27 15:56:21 Does anybody else remember going to Gretna in the earlier days. There was only one 'turnstyle' open-we had to form a huge queue, and a lady was putting the money into a big canvas bag? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-27 16:00:25
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 27 2009, 03:20 PM) [snapback]583523[/snapback]
YOU could buy them, mj - and then not turn up....... tongue.gif

I've been before. I was the driver and remained totally sober throughout. Mr Rae was extremely entertaining.
mortonjag 2009-02-27 18:39:35
QUOTE(leyTON @ Feb 27 2009, 05:43 PM) [snapback]583571[/snapback]
ive a few VT quotes you would enjoy
MJ, ask VT if you can get on his saturday night mailinng list

His pillar is always welcome in my box!
mortonjag 2009-02-27 18:56:13
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Feb 27 2009, 05:59 PM) [snapback]583581[/snapback]
Are you ever happy? unsure.gif You come across as a right moany get.

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The point is Mrs T that folk often come over as 'moany gets' because they have a genuine grievance. I'm right behind Toby and narky Arky (as was) on this one.

I have on several occasions had the impression that the Mods were dancing to (unspecified) others' tunes! [attachment=5355:dance.gif]

mortonjag 2009-02-27 18:58:47
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Feb 27 2009, 05:50 PM) [snapback]583574[/snapback]
Can it be used for genital warts?

p.m. me. My prices are very reasonable.
mortonjag 2009-02-27 19:06:52
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Feb 27 2009, 06:10 PM) [snapback]583589[/snapback]
Minger. ohmy.gif

That's harsh-you can catch genital warts while a perfectly upstanding member of society-and they're contracted by folk with much more accepted sexual practices than, for example, those with athlete's fanny.
mortonjag 2009-02-27 19:11:16
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Feb 27 2009, 05:58 PM) [snapback]583580[/snapback]
I'm having Southern Fried Chicken from M&S for tea. Kind of want Super Noodles instead of wedges now but we don't have any! mad.gif

Davie Irons is what we're stuck with, till the summer at least!

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mortonjag 2009-02-27 19:15:17
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Feb 27 2009, 06:25 PM) [snapback]583594[/snapback]
God save us. Giving Irons more money is akin to giving a baby a razor blade. Irons is part of the problem not the solution.

laugh.gif

...... wub.gif or a microphone to our Chairman!
mortonjag 2009-02-27 19:18:00
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 27 2009, 07:08 PM) [snapback]583605[/snapback]
sure we are rolleyes.gif

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Funnily enough Sir, I never think of you as a Mod-more as a human being. blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-27 19:51:18
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 27 2009, 07:26 PM) [snapback]583613[/snapback]
Friggin hell FT that is shocking 'if true ' can you imagine being in a job and getting called useless reminds me of the AMDC at IBM , then threatening you with your contract not getting renewed if you didn't do enough OT .

How can anyone respect a manager if he doesn't respect those he needs in a time of crisis , Would DDFR treat his employees at the sweetie factory in such a way .

I doubt that they'll even have contracts! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 27 2009, 07:34 PM) [snapback]583616[/snapback]
Or maybe Irons is doing something that should have been done years ago - tell some home truths to a bunch of spoiled, arrogant, egotistcal wee sweetie wives who have needed a boot up the arse !

Every last one Spurtle! Come, come! [attachment=5357:nono.gif]

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 27 2009, 07:43 PM) [snapback]583619[/snapback]
As much as I dislike The Snake, I can't help but agree with you here. Most of them are not fit to wear the shirt. Playing for Morton is a privilege that hardly any of them deserve.



Yes Douglas-oh wait.............. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-27 19:57:02
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 27 2009, 07:50 PM) [snapback]583622[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDShoogly swanned in naked with a collection box for 'Save the Children'?
mortonjag 2009-02-27 20:14:29
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 27 2009, 07:52 PM) [snapback]583624[/snapback]
Hang on , you're Douglas. rolleyes.gif

Yes, yes, Peter -indeed you are Peter, and I am Douglas, and as I was commenting to an old and dearly beloved friend who just happens to be a Morton fan yesterday, it won't be long till spring is with us again and we'll all be up for it, and like those fine folk of Irish descent who grace the Celtic Stadium, the loyal and faithful Morton support who are very, very, very nearly as good will be flocking back in their droves through the new turnstyles, the only slightly used brand new stand which I purchased all by myself will be busting to the seams with away supporters, the May Hughes dancers will again be delighting us all with their very own version of Springtime in Paris, and I really do wish Jimbo would learn how to shoot his balls firmly between those two posts though his stamina cannot be denied-an everlasting tribute as it is to that great man and ex manager Jim McInally who through unforeseen circumstances was forced to move on to greater things, not that I can say a bad word about his successor, Peter, because, as you very well know I'm a good Methodist, and upstanding pillar of our society, and always do my best, and of course most importantly of all, my heart's in the right place.
mortonjag 2009-02-27 21:21:21
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Feb 27 2009, 08:36 PM) [snapback]583639[/snapback]
Yip, I'm really looking forward to see Mr Donald take over the helm and drive the club forward. I'm sure with his business expertise we will be in the SPL in no time with one of the best youth set ups in the league.

Did you also know that Santa Claus is a real person and that John Lennon and Elvis are still alive.

I have a feeling that Mr Donald may already have been involved financially. Do you have evidence to the contrary?
mortonjag 2009-02-27 21:25:42
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 27 2009, 08:52 PM) [snapback]583642[/snapback]
Why do we have one?
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mortonjag 2009-02-27 21:35:24
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 27 2009, 09:25 PM) [snapback]583658[/snapback]
Naw nobody listened to me ... even in the house . crying.gif

Am I getting confused Chrissiboi, when I ask if the new Director-not the one with all the money-has a remit to oversee youth development?
mortonjag 2009-02-27 21:39:38
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 27 2009, 09:32 PM) [snapback]583664[/snapback]
MJ when you look at the away fans in the second to the first then it is more damning that we have lost a good few nuetrals , who would come along to watch us unless you were in with the bricks.

We've definitely seen the crowds down Chris. I'm willing to bet you that if we won our next two games 5-0 you'd see them jump up significantly. The potential's still there. Irons has been a dreadful appointment in every sense of the word.
mortonjag 2009-02-27 21:43:11
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 27 2009, 09:39 PM) [snapback]583669[/snapback]
You have a feeling? It must be true then ... rolleyes.gif

Well what's the point in stating that I know-even when I do. That's just a red rag to a bull. It must be pretty galling for Alistair Donald to read all the negative comments, though he has the consolation of knowing that the ignorant fuds will be proved wrong YET AGAIN!
mortonjag 2009-02-27 21:49:07
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 27 2009, 09:32 PM) [snapback]583663[/snapback]
When ?

Why don't you p.m. him?
mortonjag 2009-02-27 21:53:23
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Feb 27 2009, 09:39 PM) [snapback]583670[/snapback]
been needed but not made mutch of a difrance

It should always be a balance between carrot and stick. Donkeys who are repeatedly maltreated become even more stubborn.
mortonjag 2009-02-27 21:54:56 March doesn't start till Sunday! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-27 22:12:54
QUOTE(dazza @ Feb 27 2009, 10:00 PM) [snapback]583680[/snapback]
Correct huh.gif

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All I mean is that tomorrow's result could have a huge effect on what happens in March!
mortonjag 2009-02-27 22:21:21
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Feb 27 2009, 10:12 PM) [snapback]583681[/snapback]
thats really not funny. i think you'll find it may be for club funds just like most clubs do. or as said may be for little sisiters as there is a collection for them every saturday night. Your comment re the famine is no different from the famine song. Would you make holocaust jokes?

Do you believe that there have never been collections in aid of the IRA at Celtic Supporters' Clubs or on Celtic Supporters' buses?

The reason I ask is that I was recently the guest of a Celtic Director who has been working very hard to move the club forward, and he commented that that was one aspect which had definitely 'improved' in the last few years.
mortonjag 2009-02-28 07:53:38
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 27 2009, 10:30 PM) [snapback]583687[/snapback]
He looks after the money raised but has no real input on the decision making process into developing the system , you know and I know only one person can rectify the situation and that is not anyone involved in the trust .

Even though he's a Director? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-28 08:10:27
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Feb 27 2009, 10:34 PM) [snapback]583688[/snapback]
If you know lets hear it!!!!

What has Mr Donald done since he came to Cappielow? Because if he has been as involved as you imply he's complicit in the failure so far to build a team, an infrastructure and a sustainable business that's going to take us forward.

Maybe us ignorant FUDS are not so ignorant after all.

You attempted to ridicule me for providing helfpful information. I asked YOU a question in my defence, and you've responded by admitting you know sweet fuck all.

What's worse is that you then accused Mr Donald of COMPLICITY with your old hero. Complicity incorporates WILLING involvement in misdoing. You can check that in a dictionary if you know what one of those is! dry.gif

Well let me tell you this Peter-you were one of the most vicious and persistent in personal attacks on Jag way back in the early days when I warned about Shoogly.

You had a bloody field day putting the boot in to defend your hero-don't even attempt to deny that or I'll trawl up some of your gutter comments-and now your beloved Mr Rae is being accused by your very self of ' failure so far to build a team, an infrastructure and a sustainable business that's going to take us forward'.

Or to put it differently, Peter, Jaggy was right all along! Don't bother to apologise-I'd much rather you just started to listen to my words of wisdom! laugh.gif



QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 28 2009, 12:59 AM) [snapback]583717[/snapback]
He reads the forum? Interesting... not that I'd expect you to reveal his identity, Mr Rae. smile.gif


Alistair is always aware of anything of significance which is said here. He gets somebody to read all my posts for him, and one thing he HATES, is clots havin' a go at individual players. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-28 08:16:34
QUOTE(dazza @ Feb 27 2009, 10:27 PM) [snapback]583686[/snapback]
I agree.

I would take a draw tommorow tbh.

If I were Shoogly and we lose today Irons would be off-no question about it-time is running out as you correctly stated.
mortonjag 2009-02-28 08:23:21 To the last two posters:

Did sheep lips have a prior appointment or something?
mortonjag 2009-02-28 08:32:20
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 28 2009, 08:28 AM) [snapback]583764[/snapback]
Job centre? laugh.gif

New assistant Manager at Stranraer? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-28 08:33:54
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 27 2009, 10:56 PM) [snapback]583692[/snapback]
Do they have a special womb for pouffes?

The little boys' womb?
mortonjag 2009-02-28 08:35:55
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 28 2009, 12:09 AM) [snapback]583710[/snapback]
Why do you stay silent on stories like these ? rolleyes.gif

Speaker Michael Martin took wife on taxpayer-funded trips to Hawaii and Bahamas

Labour gravy train

Bid to keep Gordon Brown's expenses secret

Gordon Brown's £9,000 kitchen subsidy revealed

Because there's no Spurtle bumming them up to the heights and everybody knows they're keech anyway! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-28 08:43:28
QUOTE(hayfever @ Feb 28 2009, 07:00 AM) [snapback]583750[/snapback]
I honestly can't believe you still think that was me. I didn't do it, I told you at the time I didn't do it, I cleared it up with arkelsTON - ask him - and I don't even remember him doing anything that would have provoked me to do anything like that. Not that I would resort to underhand methods like that when someone annoyed me or broke the rules.

Feel free to prove me wrong. I doubt you can though, because you're an odious f#ck wit who thinks because he shouts the loudest and 'hates the players' then his opinion is more valuable than most. Get a life.

And my point about 'doing something about it' was tied to my point about user driven content...it's up to the people concerned to contribute, and contribute well. If they make no effort to contribute in a constructive or appropriate manner, then what can they moan about?

Anyway, you're really boring. And I'm away to watch my local team in a national cup final, never thought I'd get to say that anytime soon...

I believe you Alan-I think you were a reasonable Mod and are a reasonable bod.

Pray tell me though-WHO did do it?

It couldn't possibly have been that guy who is a club official and claims he's not, and states that his involvement with Moderation is minimal-no way-so that only leaves.....



BRYAN



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Mr Purdue-you've some talking to do! [attachment=5358:secret.gif]
mortonjag 2009-02-28 09:59:09
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Feb 28 2009, 09:58 AM) [snapback]583779[/snapback]
So that will be a no then? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2009-02-28 10:00:44
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 28 2009, 09:22 AM) [snapback]583773[/snapback]
Conveniently in London? huh.gif

I doubt it PD.
mortonjag 2009-02-28 10:05:31
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 27 2009, 10:45 PM) [snapback]583690[/snapback]
Cappielow Doc ?

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Celtic Park! blush.gif

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 28 2009, 12:21 AM) [snapback]583711[/snapback]
I'd be very surprised if there hadn't been, and just as equally surprised if there hadn't been collections for the UDA/UDF at Rangers clubs or on Rangers supporters buses.
Feck the pair of them.

Common knowledge Mr Edwards, and the scum on both sides tarnish our opinions.

There are plenty of decent OF supporters who condemn that sort of thing.
mortonjag 2009-02-28 10:06:49
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Feb 27 2009, 07:17 PM) [snapback]583610[/snapback]
aye...might get my nat king tonight....ill keep you posted

Snowball Flight?
mortonjag 2009-02-28 10:13:38
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 28 2009, 10:01 AM) [snapback]583783[/snapback]
Even by your standards, that reply is a bit of a mess. I thought Strathblane asked a perfectly reasonable question, and you've proceeded to dodge it - you're taking after Ms Goldie a bit too much these days. wink.gif

In the context of his previous post the question was clearly rhetorical.

If you wish to ask me a serious question I shall DECIDE whether or not to answer it.

Or to put it differently, shall I ask Peter if the treatment for his psychological illness has been completed or not. I'm SURE he'll give me a straight 'Yes', or 'No'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-28 10:16:31
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 28 2009, 10:10 AM) [snapback]583787[/snapback]
blink.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I was meaning Cappielow-doc from on here laugh.gif

There was a thread on here back in January with ref to Doc at the hospitality rolleyes.gif

I'm confused-what has that to do with Cellic Directors-I know that wee fanny Reid got smashed oot his skull at Scapa!
mortonjag 2009-02-28 10:18:50
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Feb 28 2009, 10:14 AM) [snapback]583790[/snapback]
laugh.gif

Four hours and forty minutes now.
mortonjag 2009-02-28 10:21:40 This is not intended to be a criticism of the Club, but we've had two full weeks since the last home game, and I fail to see why the work has not been completed. Have the contractors f***ed up?
mortonjag 2009-02-28 10:23:33
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 27 2009, 09:06 PM) [snapback]583647[/snapback]
I'm pretty sure you are laugh.gif

When did you last get your hole PD?
mortonjag 2009-02-28 10:28:13
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 28 2009, 10:23 AM) [snapback]583796[/snapback]
Irons came into the Chairmans Lounge after the game v Queen of the South. Doc walked in as everyone was listening to DI as he stood with his family and Doc came back from having a fag and someone asked why one of the Celtic Directors was in the lounge, ye had to be there, funny as hell, that day he was the spitting image of Dr Reid rolleyes.gif

I feel for him. I was introduced to that scumbag at Cellic Park-you know-all the niceties and hand shaking crap, and my guest said 'John-this is Ernie-he was a G.P.-a real doctor'. It was only meant as a piss take but the good doctor was none too amused! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-28 10:50:17
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 28 2009, 10:33 AM) [snapback]583803[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-02-28 10:52:14
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 28 2009, 10:36 AM) [snapback]583804[/snapback]
That is something that crossed my mind, but I suppose we'll never find out.

You could email the Club.
mortonjag 2009-02-28 10:56:41 Says the Sun! blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-28 11:42:58
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Feb 28 2009, 11:25 AM) [snapback]583817[/snapback]
Or down it rolleyes.gif

Or OOT it! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-28 11:45:59
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Feb 28 2009, 11:16 AM) [snapback]583814[/snapback]
I think they'll be very strict today with the advertising turnstyle accepting only these people.

So no more Season Ticket entry at any gate, concession / student and brew cards will also be scrutinised.

I don't think there's been any major work done on them it's just the above that wil cause a few delays.

Don't be surprised if you see Gillian or Crawford hanging around outside keeping an eye on things.

Checking for boobs?

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mortonjag 2009-02-28 11:47:48
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Feb 28 2009, 11:37 AM) [snapback]583825[/snapback]
Thanks for the responses above and I'll infom you the name of the next infected Glesgae burd in due course.

Sue K Dick?
mortonjag 2009-02-28 11:51:59
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 28 2009, 10:58 AM) [snapback]583810[/snapback]
I merely point out that Dr Mortonjag is being selective in his criticisms despite saying he dislikes "all politicians"

There is absolutely no contradiction there Spurtle. If Labour were in power they'd be getting it-let me assure you of that-and if people on here were bumming them up as you bum up Bawheid, they' get it too!

I DO prefer Annabel to Nickerless because we went to the same school. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-28 11:57:09
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 28 2009, 11:46 AM) [snapback]583833[/snapback]
Yep, I agree with this... there are still some 'undesirables' at Cappielow but I reckon that most of the "boys" are, if not exactly paragons of virtue, benign enough.

Of course they need a firm hand and some professionalism but if it's being taken to extremes it's just going to breed resentment. And some of the guys (e.g. Wake, Finlayson) are extremely professional in the first place.

I'm not disagreeing with you, but interested to know your definition of 'extremely professional'. If it's what I think it is, I'd include 80% of the squad.

If, however, you're merely alluding to a willingness to bust yer baws for a tyrant who'll shit on your face if it suits him, I'd describe that as pathetic rather than professional.
mortonjag 2009-02-28 12:02:20
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Feb 28 2009, 11:44 AM) [snapback]583830[/snapback]
crying.gif

She's at it Willy Man. No way does she fancy a 21 year old child-except in a maternal sense-pobably just wants him to sook her tits! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-28 12:07:58
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Feb 28 2009, 11:59 AM) [snapback]583838[/snapback]
Totally agree.

I think it's a scandal that the NHS is spending £3300 of our money on them.

Why don't they adopt or foster, there's pleanty of weans out there looking for 'parents'.

Just convinces me more than ever that wee Nickerless is a Dyke! blink.gif

Seriously-it's PC/human rights/gay rights-call it what you- will gone absolutely bonkers. I've always believed that gay couples can POTENTIALLY make great foster or adoptive parents despite the inherent social stigmata for the child.

It's utterly ludicrous though that they expect the NHS to shag one of them with a glass tube because they don't like willies put where God intended! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-28 12:11:36
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 28 2009, 12:06 PM) [snapback]583842[/snapback]
Most of the squad is professional, but I think that some go above and beyond.

I don't reckon they do it for the coach as much as they do for the club, which is to be commended.

That is certainly true.
mortonjag 2009-02-28 12:21:26
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Feb 28 2009, 12:06 PM) [snapback]583841[/snapback]
I tippexed that for you rolleyes.gif

SPARROT would be a very welcome addition to my cellar-It needs a spot of young blood.
mortonjag 2009-02-28 12:24:43 Can somebody tell me what this thread's supposed to be about. The same pictures of young yobs keep cropping up on our website. Are they Morton fans?
mortonjag 2009-02-28 12:27:24
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 28 2009, 12:21 PM) [snapback]583851[/snapback]
Right, is there some kind of book open on who will be absent from the dugout today?

I was thinking along the lines of:

Irons 8/1
Collins 1/4
Cappie 9/2
Member of coaching staff 1/20
DDF Rae *betting suspended* ph34r.gif

I'll give you 100/1 against sheep lips having walked!

Just wondering if Joan got a move fixed up before the pay off from Shoogly! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-02-28 12:29:38
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 28 2009, 12:21 PM) [snapback]583852[/snapback]
If that's Brian Graham behind Stevenson's heid so can I.

I don't see any heids.
mortonjag 2009-03-01 10:12:51 I enjoyed my day out at Cappielow yesterday-it's been a LONG time since we took command of a game in an attacking sense. Dunfermline were made to look very poor and until well into the second half Jim McIntyre's body language said everything.

Then in one of the most bizarre substitutions I've ever seen, big Erik was hooked and Junior came on.

This is not a criticism of young Smith, but it clearly turned the game in the Pars favour, and YET AGAIN we were left biting our nails and thanking Cuthbert for an outstanding save in a game that could have been dead and buried.

I can't understand it. A sub at that point could easily have been made to advantage by taking Grady off a bit earlier (thought his influence was tremendous again) and giving LEAFY a run to keep them guessing. Wakey and Spoonsy together just smacks of last week's farce.

Anyway it was a LOT better.
mortonjag 2009-03-01 17:53:27
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Mar 1 2009, 01:15 PM) [snapback]584200[/snapback]
Changing system to combat the other team changing to a front 3 is fine, if it is causing trouble and stretching the defence...but it wasn't it didn't alter the game in the slightest.



Irons likes to moan about the mind-set of th players when it comes to losing late goals, but surely that is in part instilled by being made to change their approach to the game every time they are winning? It's fine when it's a scrappy lead to maybe try to shut up shop, but when the team are totally dominant yet are made to adopt a more defensive approach, it surely has to dent their confidence a bit?


That's how I saw it!


QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 1 2009, 03:20 PM) [snapback]584261[/snapback]
Maybe Tuesday could be a bit early for Shimmin to return. If he's fit, then Irons has a "happy" problem to deal with ! rolleyes.gif

As for changing the system on Saturday, Irons was spot on. We were already getting dragged back to our 18yard box and the Pars were beginning to create chances.
We had an extra man in midfield and were short in defence. It was sound tactics to give the defence an extra man to cope.
I know Dunfermline still came at us, but they are a good team and were taking chances themselves throwing bodies forward, they could have so easily conceeded another goal because they had so many players up the park.
But that's the chance you take, sometimes it pays off, other times you get hit with the sucker punch of going another goal down.


Your analysis of the football is usually good Spurtle. Seems you're following the same pattern as Bawheid!

Please elaborate on those chances the Pars were 'beginning to create'-utter mince. At that point everybody around me in the stand was completely relaxed-we were coasting. If anything should have been changed it should have been changed to put MORE pressure on the opposition-something that had worked a treat-instead we telegraphed to Jim McIntyre that IRONS was getting nervous.

His behaviour in the dugout from that point on was utterly pathetic-like a daddy waiting in the ante room for his wife to deliver the first wean, and he had the BRAZEN CHEEK to state this later:


'It was a nerve-wracking end as we have a history of losing late goals. It's something we have to get out of the players' minds'.


No-sheep lips, it was turned into a nerve-wracking end by you-not by the players. Instead of thinking 'we're doing grand-another goal will kill this off' your mind strayed back to that looming P45!


NUFF SAID! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-01 18:04:14
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 28 2009, 05:32 PM) [snapback]583941[/snapback]
laugh.gif not me!

Never thought it was Bryan-good to see you back at Scapa in yer chariot yesterday! blush.gif

QUOTE(Toby @ Mar 1 2009, 12:16 PM) [snapback]584186[/snapback]
Brilliant, now pick up your dummy.

Let me remind you. It was round about the time that Scotland beat France in Paris, he tore into the tartan army when you were going to start the International Fitba board. If you say it wasn't you there's nothing I can do to disprove that, but none of your fellow mods have held their hands up to this abuse of power.

Your point about my opinion being more valuable than most is also laughable. Nobody's opinion is any more valuable than anyone else's, no matter how odious they happen to be. Yet when you were the moderator, certain posts from certain people were overlooked, whilst others were punished with bans and warnings. A very similar scenario seems to be taking place with your successor GKR. Let me ask you again since you've never answered, what did you do about piehutt's closet hvn comments? Show racism the red card goes out the window when there's an anti protestant comment?

I've got no problem with some mods on here. Salty's my pal, TiD, Bryan, Boozehound and Nach0 can make valuable, often humerous contributions. However, the double standards, both yourself and GKR have set are ridiculous, and not doing the board any favours, never mind blaming our contribution. We can't post what we really think for fear of warnings and bans, should guys like yourself continue true to form.


No comment about Tontastic's input? dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-01 18:14:51
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 28 2009, 10:35 PM) [snapback]584086[/snapback]
I was speaking to DI on Wednesday and I said I thought bringing in Jenkins and Grady would make a huge difference - he obviously took my advice smile.gif so today's victory is all down to me... no, it's ok, my pleasure, don't mention it.

Well you'd better get round to his house before Tuesday's game Alibi, and tell him we ain't interested in playing for a draw-oh-and tell him Mortonjag still thinks he's a worse tactician than JM! laugh.gif


I've just read the Chairman's comments. I noticed how carefully worded they were-the whole presentation read quite differently from his usual garbled assault on our native language. I reckon that more than anything else he was preparing himself and the fans for a Managerial sacking, had we lost yesterday's game.
mortonjag 2009-03-01 18:21:02 It was nice to see Allan in the Scapa stand once again. He's looking 'awfy' old those days, but he'll be 70 this year-time flies eh! huh.gif

I gather he was one of Mr Donald's guests.
mortonjag 2009-03-01 18:34:19
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 28 2009, 06:12 PM) [snapback]583967[/snapback]
stop with this sheep lips pish eh? it's personal and it's out of order.

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I'd hardly think you are equipped to pronounce on personal insults dear!

QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Feb 28 2009, 07:53 PM) [snapback]584020[/snapback]
I agree, much as MJ makes controversial comments, a lot of his contributions are worth reading. This choice of language makes him seem lacking in the intelligence to make a considered argument, which is unfortunate as I think he's capable of more.

Thank you DOT-I'm mightily flattered.

By the way, have ewe ever SEEN sheep? I've always believed they have beautiful lips, and contrary to common perception, they can be very intelligent animals, and learn quickly from experience.



mortonjag 2009-03-01 18:49:32
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Mar 1 2009, 06:37 PM) [snapback]584297[/snapback]
I think your dog wants a walk MJ. ph34r.gif

She had a lovely walk this afternoon in Pollok Park, and is exhausted at the moment. I reckon your sources are poor.
mortonjag 2009-03-01 18:57:42 If we take the game to Clyde as we did to a better side yesterday, we will win-it's just as simple as that. Jenkins and Grady had a huge influence yesterday-and I'm not just talking about their physical contribution-they lead by example-gave the rest the confidence to 'have a go'. I'd hate to think Grady would be missing for this six pointer.
mortonjag 2009-03-01 19:03:14
QUOTE(Toby @ Mar 1 2009, 01:13 AM) [snapback]584122[/snapback]
Probably 45 years ago i.e the last time NewTon said anything relevant in relation to Morton.

He said to me relatively recently that he'd personally offered Mr Rae about £20,000 to help the club.

When he said that I thought it was quite relevant to Morton.

Mr Rae failed to take up his offer.

mortonjag 2009-03-01 19:18:06
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 28 2009, 06:41 PM) [snapback]583992[/snapback]
Great result and an enjoyable game today. Good performances all round and sound tactics by Irons. Irons should also be complimented in changing tactics when needed, as Dunfermline poured men forward in search of a goal.
We started 3-5-2 with McManus (an able deputy for the missing Shimmin) in defence.Walker and my MotM Greacen by his side.
Cuthbert had little to do for most of the game, but produced a magnificent save when called upon near the end of the game.
The 5 man midfield had Paartalu,Jenkins and McGuffie with Jim and Kev playing wide, and it worked !
Jenkins is great at getting forward when the opportunity arises, and nearly scored from a forward run early on in the game, only a superb save by Gallagher denied him his goal. McGuffie showed once again the player he can be, and Paartalu broke a few Dunfermline attacks up.
Jim and Kev played the flanks well and put in a power of work
Up front Peter and Grady worked well together with good link up play.

We started brightly and there were some tasty challenges in the first 20 mins, most noticeable was the Greacen challenge on their No. 6. Greacen was rightly booked but it was a mis-timed tackle more than anything malicious that could have had serious consequences for the opposing player.

Our first goal was a delight, nice link up play had McGuffie feed MCcAllister on the wing and he put in a fantastic cross for Peter to head powerfully into the net giving their keeper no chance.

The second half started the same way the first half ended with Morton in control, although Dunfermline were far from out of it.
Greacen was causing havoc in the Dunfermline defence from set pieces, and it evetually paid off. Greacen knocking a Keving corner home in a goal mouth sramble.
The Pars had no choice but to take a defender off and throw a striker on to chase tthe game. Morton combated the move by throwing on Smith and changing to 4-4-2.
Morton seemed to sit back a little and the Pars started to make chances, maybe not clear cut chances but they dominated to the 18 yard box.
In the end they got a penalty for their efforts. I thought it was a soft penalty myself, but I would have been shouting for it if the tables had been turned.
In the end Morton played out the game without conceeding another goal, much to the Ton fans delight.

I thought in the end we deserved the win. The tactics were spot on,and the players effort and commitment were there in abundance today.

And to cap it all, it was great to see one of my favourite players of all time back at Cappielow. ...Jim Holmes !!!


It seems to have escaped your notice that Cuthbert had nothing to do in the whole game until Irons needlessly got the jitters and tried to fix what wasn't 'broke'.

After that our goalie bagged the three points for us with an outstanding save. He couldn't really have been faulted if that shot had beaten him.

Would the tactics still have been 'spot on' if he hadn't done so well Spurtle?
mortonjag 2009-03-01 19:21:25
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Mar 1 2009, 06:55 PM) [snapback]584301[/snapback]
I can name my sources, something you don't and won't do tongue.gif. blush.gif

..........and your point is? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-01 19:25:50
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Mar 1 2009, 07:07 PM) [snapback]584307[/snapback]
mortonjag what's the problem? I'd much rather just get the 3 points and a good performance. I would also have liked it if we went on to murder them by 3 or 4 goals but aside from the penalty, Dunfermline could have played another 90 minutes yesterday and not scored. The dubious penalty makes the scoreline more flattering for the Pars so I think you're having an unnecessary dig at Irons - which you do a lot - because you just don't like him.

In which case it's reassuring to note that the vast majority of posters have agreed that he lost his bottle and needlessly changed things.

I regularly criticise sheep lips because, IN MY OPINION AND THAT OF SEVERAL TRUSTWORTHY SOURCES, he's a fucking liability, and a very unpleasant creature to boot.

There son! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-01 19:28:23
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Mar 1 2009, 07:26 PM) [snapback]584316[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-03-01 19:45:39
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Mar 1 2009, 07:27 PM) [snapback]584317[/snapback]
I don't think you're very pleasant a lot of the time either but I choose not to make up nasty names to call you.

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mortonjag 2009-03-01 19:46:58
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Mar 1 2009, 07:31 PM) [snapback]584320[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-03-01 19:49:55
QUOTE(briggsTON @ Mar 1 2009, 07:25 PM) [snapback]584312[/snapback]
Pleased to hear your news MJ.
I honestly thought as long as Douglas Rae
was Chairman he would stay away.

I heard from a source that Allan was reluctant to come when first invited, because he'd been made to feel unwelcome in the past, but that Mr Donald had reassured him stating that he would be his guest and not somebody elses.
mortonjag 2009-03-01 19:52:32
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Mar 1 2009, 07:07 PM) [snapback]584306[/snapback]
Would have been a good budget to get the youth system on the go!

I believe the offer had something to do with the youth system.
mortonjag 2009-03-01 19:55:41
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Mar 1 2009, 07:49 PM) [snapback]584329[/snapback]
We don't know that though, for all we know your source could be the monkey!

Monkeys may speak the truth!

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 1 2009, 07:53 PM) [snapback]584333[/snapback]
I dispute the credibility of your sources. For all I know you're just regurgitating things you've gone over in your head and credited them to various fictional sources. If you aren't going to name your source then it is illegitimate.

I'd propose that the legitimacy of a 'source' is not a function of the multiplicity of its recipients.
mortonjag 2009-03-01 20:02:32
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Mar 1 2009, 07:25 PM) [snapback]584313[/snapback]
I thought it was a fairly comfortable save for him. Irons would have cost us the points even though Dunfermline only tested our 'keeper once in the whole game? He tried to keep stability in defence when Dunfermline were playing with three strikers while trailing by two goals.

It seemed fairly sensible that at our end of the table we just need the points and closing out an otherwise easy victory isn't 'jitters' when he's already quite rightly pointed out that conceding late goals is normally a problem.

Repeating yourself doesn't make the argument any more valid. I'm interested to know how close your are to the manager during the matches.
mortonjag 2009-03-01 20:04:35
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Mar 1 2009, 07:58 PM) [snapback]584335[/snapback]
I already knew that! My sources told me ph34r.gif

EXCELLENT-then you can save me the bother and explain to our good posters what went wrong and why! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-01 20:11:52
QUOTE(centralTON @ Mar 1 2009, 12:12 AM) [snapback]584101[/snapback]
Convincing me, that, having seen her in the flesh, I would give her a sperm donation. ( well she's not going to get it from her girlfriend, is she? )

So would I Central-I'd like to drop a sperm whale on her from an almighty height.
mortonjag 2009-03-01 20:16:31
QUOTE(Loveless @ Mar 1 2009, 03:16 PM) [snapback]584259[/snapback]
It's actually much worse.

I THINK I know what you mean, and if I do, I happen to agree with you!
mortonjag 2009-03-01 20:18:31
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 1 2009, 08:09 PM) [snapback]584343[/snapback]
I dismiss your proposal on the grounds of credent citation.

PISH!
mortonjag 2009-03-01 20:19:40
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 1 2009, 08:12 PM) [snapback]584345[/snapback]
You should know - you're the master of that. wink.gif

Correct.
mortonjag 2009-03-01 20:22:13
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 1 2009, 08:14 PM) [snapback]584346[/snapback]
To be honest, Grady can't handle games in quick succession - he started to tire after 50/55 mins yesterday. I'd hope that Russell gets a start up front with Weatherson, but expect Wake to take that berth.

I thought that too-and LEAFY should have replaced him THEN. The heads were up-we'd probably have scored at least one more.
mortonjag 2009-03-01 20:24:41
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Mar 1 2009, 08:17 PM) [snapback]584349[/snapback]
Mmmmm, that seems a bit strange. I am not saying this is the case but at the Sportsman's Dinner last year Allan McGraw was there as a guest and there never appeared to be any "ill-feeling" anywhere on anybody's part where Allan and DDFR were concerned so unless there are underlying ripple then seems a little strange.

Both are wise enough not to wash dirty linen in public.
mortonjag 2009-03-01 20:28:18
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Mar 1 2009, 08:22 PM) [snapback]584353[/snapback]
Doesn't really surprise me. And I don't think much has changed since then.

In terms of the youth set up, and DESPITE all the encouraging noises over the last year, it is significantly worse.
mortonjag 2009-03-01 20:32:47
QUOTE(SramTon @ Feb 28 2009, 09:47 PM) [snapback]584067[/snapback]
any of you guys wish to admit to owning a gold Nissan Quashqai?

No way-I reckon 10% of shaggin' wagon drivers use them properly and drive them reasonably. The rest are fuds.
mortonjag 2009-03-01 20:39:36
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Mar 1 2009, 08:29 PM) [snapback]584357[/snapback]
Agreed! laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2009-03-01 20:52:33
QUOTE(stuart @ Mar 1 2009, 08:42 PM) [snapback]584365[/snapback]
Surely the club should be funding it properly? Who funded the Hamilton youth set up? Was it the Council or something?

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£100k Celtic failures are much more attractive! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-01 20:55:55
QUOTE(leyTON @ Mar 1 2009, 08:45 PM) [snapback]584366[/snapback]
the problem is
if they introduce a vague law about performance related pensions, bankers could use it to shaft employees

Or they could just do it the old fashioned way.
mortonjag 2009-03-01 22:01:45
QUOTE(Deego @ Feb 28 2009, 11:56 PM) [snapback]584096[/snapback]
Right. I've always thought a clabby doo was a vagina.

Well you were wrong-and so is your quote from the Urban Dictionary.

A FEMALE'S vagina indeed. I'd love to see the male version, and anyway it's the VULVA which is quite different. I'd post some anatomical pictures but they're deemed NSFW! I wonder what fanny thought that up!

QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 1 2009, 11:30 AM) [snapback]584177[/snapback]
Steam them with a wee drop of white wine 'til they open. Strain the wine off, add some cream and heat. Pour over the clabbies and then add some finely chopped parsley.
No, though a lady's outer parts have been referred to by some coarser types as "The bearded clam".

Precisely Mr Bam, and the vagina is an inner part!
mortonjag 2009-03-01 22:07:13
QUOTE(McInally`s Monkey @ Mar 1 2009, 10:00 PM) [snapback]584385[/snapback]
Totally disagree with you there MJ. Dunfermline were beginning to attack both flanks and we needed protection on both sides...step forward 2 full backs and covering 'wingers'. Junior done quite well too for all the time he was on the park

Also, Erik was below par.

And, oh yeah, we won so let's criticise a victory shall we
?

Well it seems more reasonable than to suggest that all victories have been perfect successes OR that all defeats have been miserable failures.

You are perfectly entitled to disagree with me and 75% of the observers. That's your prerogative even if you are wrong! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-01 22:11:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 1 2009, 10:05 PM) [snapback]584389[/snapback]
Recenty, MJ ????

You exaggerate sir.

It was in 2007.

So, it must be ancient history by now.

Good gracious Newt-how time flies-another two years and we could be in the SPL!
mortonjag 2009-03-01 22:17:42 I wouldn't waste your breath on the weans Newt-don't you know that Greenock Morton are potentially second bottom of the ULTRA PRESTIGIOUS AND WORLD RENOWNED Scottish second division.

Anyway-this Stan Webster guy-who is the Aussie duffer, and why would we be interested in him? Who has he ever coached that would entitle him to hold a candle to Davie Irons?
mortonjag 2009-03-01 22:21:39
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 1 2009, 10:18 PM) [snapback]584405[/snapback]
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I always believed that the SPL was the first division in Scotland. Note the use of 'second' as opposed to 'Second'! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-01 22:24:50
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Mar 1 2009, 10:14 PM) [snapback]584400[/snapback]
But you could also add your input as my sources may not be the same as yours ph34r.gif ph34r.gif


I don't think you have a clue about what happened! dry.gif
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 1 2009, 10:15 PM) [snapback]584403[/snapback]
SPL ?

or SPL2 ?

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Whichever! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-01 22:27:07
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Mar 1 2009, 10:22 PM) [snapback]584410[/snapback]
Not everyone agrees with you, I'm not even sure you're in the majority! But kudos for making up some shite impressive stats.

Start a poll if you will-or shut up.

Isn't it past your bedtime anyway? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-01 22:30:55
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 1 2009, 10:27 PM) [snapback]584420[/snapback]
Well, to be frank, ThornTON, Victorian Division 1 is a long way from the Melbourne Victory, who won the A League Grand Final on Saturday.

And sadly, Scotland may not be with Australia in South Africa.

That's the fault of the English! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-01 22:35:15
QUOTE(jpmil @ Mar 1 2009, 10:22 PM) [snapback]584411[/snapback]
Could you elucidate?

Of course I can-it's a bigger shambles than ever. Irons is not interested and Collins is just playing games. It remains significantly underfunded, and all the window dressing in the world can't hide the fact that the the Club still doesn't give a fuck about a proper youth system, and won't until Shoogly's well 'oot the road'.

Will you disagree? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-01 22:39:35
QUOTE(jpmil @ Mar 1 2009, 10:35 PM) [snapback]584425[/snapback]
I plough my way through all these posts and keep coming across the words "opinions of my sources" but the validity of these spectulations are never revealed or identified. So in light of that I believe this to be just MJ and other giving vent to their lack of real information.
Would it be that only facts only were posted here? Utopia!"

Give me one single example of information I have supplied in the past which has subsequently proven incorrect.

I'm bloody serious about this BTW. Sometimes I get pissed off to the back teeth with arseholes trying to rubbish my sources.

RIGHT-go for it-NOW! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-02 07:37:50 I see the Jag attack squad is back up to speed. A shower of ignorant and pathetic griping weans who think they can call mortonjag a liar and then complain when he steps lightly on their tiny tootsies.

Well here's a birthday message to you-one and all-Mortonjag knows FAR, FAR more than he's able to reveal. Mortonjag feeds you helpful little snippets where possible and is treated with contempt.

That is truly contemptible.

Mortonjag's sources post on this forum. They are equally unable/unwilling to divulge fully, privileged information.

I notice some clowns are still trying to rubbish NewTON's substantial offer to the club. He hasn't mentioned that the Club billed him later for over £2,000 re. a player he had NOT recommended. Mr Rae argued the toss, appealed to him for the dosh 'as a fellow Greenockian', and then had the BRASS to ask if his A $40k offer was still on the board.

Now that's a wee bit of information I've just decided to release, and it's the tip of an iceberg. Having done so, I believe I'm entitled to say to jpmil et al-go and fuck yourselves. You are nothing but an irritation to this gentle, ageing soul. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-02 14:31:29
QUOTE(jpmil @ Mar 2 2009, 10:38 AM) [snapback]584537[/snapback]
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Mar 2 2009, 07:37 AM)
I see the Jag attack squad is back up to speed. A shower of ignorant and pathetic griping weans who think they can call mortonjag a liar and then complain when he steps lightly on their tiny tootsies...

I notice some clowns are still trying to rubbish NewTON's substantial offer to the club...

Having done so, I believe I'm entitled to say to jpmil et al-go and f*** yourselves. You are nothing but an irritation[/b]...

Now personal attacks, we must have hit a nerve!!!

...and you seem as pleased as Punch! dry.gif

It's quite simple-Mortonjag objects to being portrayed as a liar.

You may personally attack Mortonjag till your poorly developed little brains die from overwork-if that gives you pleasure fill your bootees! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-02 14:44:40 It depends where you check-some forecasts are suggesting a mix of snow and rain overnight, but ALL forecast rain for tomorrow, and I believe they DO have covers! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-02 14:53:15
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 2 2009, 09:39 AM) [snapback]584519[/snapback]
Maybe they met at Ibrox. laugh.gif

Well I doubt they'd have met at the Stadium favoured by the best fans in Scotland! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Mar 2 2009, 10:44 AM) [snapback]584538[/snapback]
Unlike your goodself then. mad.gif

laugh.gif You wish, Anus!

mortonjag 2009-03-02 14:57:52
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 2 2009, 02:19 PM) [snapback]584623[/snapback]
After reading the stuff on this thread I watched Irons' and Collins' body language quite closely. They stood yards apart and at no point did I see them communicate with each other. You would never have guessed they are a management team.

I know that doesn't prove anything but it looks as if there is a problem there if you ask me.

My sources indicate that there is indeed a problem! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-02 15:01:22
QUOTE(Cawston @ Mar 2 2009, 12:19 AM) [snapback]584461[/snapback]
Opinion

Don't be ridiculous.

One of our youth players is desperate to get away and looking at a scholarship in the States. Another who has appeared as a sub for the first team is seeking trials with an SPL club. mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-02 15:03:49
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Mar 2 2009, 02:54 PM) [snapback]584640[/snapback]
Mortonjag, you're a dick!

I feel better. happy.gif

That was poor, you contemptible little squid.
mortonjag 2009-03-02 15:05:15
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 2 2009, 02:57 PM) [snapback]584645[/snapback]
No, they didn't first meet at Cappielow. biggrin.gif

SOURCE dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-02 15:07:56
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 2 2009, 02:51 PM) [snapback]584636[/snapback]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/2333 watch the local Forecast Video wink.gif

Cumbernauld ain't in Inverclyde, dearie! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-02 15:17:59
QUOTE(Zutons @ Feb 28 2009, 08:59 PM) [snapback]584046[/snapback]
His son was playing today, thats why he was at scappa.

Edit, Quite petty tbh

SOURCE? ph34r.gif

QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Feb 28 2009, 09:22 PM) [snapback]584054[/snapback]
Jim Holmes was not there to see Morton play, but to watch his son playing for the Pars. This said, he was givem complimentary tickets and hospitality by the Club. Happy now? BTW, he still drives taxis.

SOURCE? ph34r.gif

Gentlemen-what was the POINT in asking Homer to do the draw?

I realise he had brainy feet, but a Taxi Driver's hands are surely less adept than-say- our hamper boy's! laugh.gif

mortonjag 2009-03-02 15:32:25
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 2 2009, 03:16 PM) [snapback]584656[/snapback]
Right: so I'm supposed to do the donkey work in order to support Mortonjag's 'sources' now? Not going to happen.

You called Mortonjag a liar.

You are a bawbag. Indeed I shall promote you from this day to 'Scrotum'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-02 15:38:42
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 2 2009, 03:33 PM) [snapback]584666[/snapback]
Name your sources, or is it impossible for you to do so? Ask the voices in your head: 'mouton' preferably.

Look Scrotum-I'm not preparing some pathetic wee thesis on Politics for Anderson's College.

I've had it from a reliable source (which of course I cannot name) that if you're a very good boy and don't question the reliability of the information, I can guarantee you your hole for the first time this coming weekend.
mortonjag 2009-03-02 15:41:39
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 2 2009, 03:15 PM) [snapback]584655[/snapback]
No, but Cumbercauld is in central Scotland. As Bryan said, 'Watch the local forecast video', dearie. laugh.gif

The forecasts I checked were for BLOODY Cumbernauld darling! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-02 16:31:34
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 2 2009, 03:44 PM) [snapback]584671[/snapback]
'Mortonjag in 'too incompetent/pig ignorant' to grasp fairly simplistic modern technology shock'.

Who are you calling pig ignorant you jumped up little cretin?
mortonjag 2009-03-02 17:36:52
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Mar 2 2009, 04:42 PM) [snapback]584696[/snapback]
You appear somewhat irked today,take a (physician heal thyself)chillpill.

I'm somewhat irked every bloody day, trying to cope with the daft weans on this forum! [attachment=5362:sneaky.gif]
mortonjag 2009-03-02 17:38:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 2 2009, 05:09 PM) [snapback]584710[/snapback]
[b]And what is wrong with trying to improve their lot ???[/b]

There is more to football than playing at Cappielow.

And they could try cricket or rugby.

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The point being that they were perfectly happy to develop their careers at Cappielow until rather recently!
mortonjag 2009-03-02 17:44:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 2 2009, 03:45 PM) [snapback]584672[/snapback]
You just think you're above scrutiny and that your opinion can and must be interpreted as fact. Because you're a narrow-minded and tedious old man.

Only your opinion Scrotum-and by definition the opinion of a bawbag!

QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 2 2009, 05:27 PM) [snapback]584716[/snapback]
Gidday MJ,

Be careful, mate.

Could that not leave you open to possible prosecution ?

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Not at all-he's eighteen years of age as he'll proudly tell you.

I have never before encountered such insight, wisdom , and graciousness in a mere child.

Life is full of surprises.
mortonjag 2009-03-02 17:47:26
QUOTE(binnie @ Mar 2 2009, 05:20 PM) [snapback]584715[/snapback]
I heard From An Official That There Was A Bust Up At Thistle And Collins Stormed Out Of The Dressing Room.

You're not allowed to say things like that unless you name your sources.

I, of course, am well aware of what went on between five and six last Saturday! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-02 17:50:56
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 2 2009, 05:44 PM) [snapback]584723[/snapback]
rolleyes.gif I would have thought that was quite obvious. The clue is in the first word of his sentence.

Rule 1. Mortonjag can name call anyone he likes and we should all find it hilarious and witty.
Rule 2. Do not name call Mortonjag he finds it offensive and rude.
[codebox]He started it! He called me names !!! crying.gif[/codebox]

I doubt if anybody listens to a word you say-but keep trying.

BTW, do you still think Millions is a 'Household Name'-I hear things aren't quite so good financially at Feart Matilda! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-02 17:52:28
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Mar 2 2009, 05:51 PM) [snapback]584727[/snapback]
I agree mj, he's a plamph.

Source please! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-02 17:54:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 2 2009, 05:52 PM) [snapback]584728[/snapback]
Wot ?

A lady in the change rooms ?

New scandal.

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laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-02 17:56:04
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Mar 2 2009, 05:53 PM) [snapback]584731[/snapback]
DNA from neighbours daughter's bicycle seat!!

Any on the stabilisers?
mortonjag 2009-03-02 19:21:18
QUOTE(wanderton @ Mar 2 2009, 06:37 PM) [snapback]584745[/snapback]
Well wot did go on last weekend if your so much in the know spill the beans.

Ok-you win!

It goes something like this:

Sheep Lips was bloody well raging because his 'punt and hunt' tactics hadn't worked, but mainly because he suspected some dumb insolence after the events of the previous Tuesday when he had smacked Stevie Masterton's wee pink botty.

He was taking it out on the lads big style-they were about twenty minutes into the tirade when the hamper boy knocked on the dressing room door, and meekly asked if he could uplift the dirty strips. Irons allegedly said (and I'm conscious that your innocent child may be reading this) 'f*** off you smelly wee pouffe'. The hamper boy was most distressed, and f***ed off crying to Shoogly who raged in, and booted Irons in the baws seven times, exclaiming, 'I've had quite enough of you Sheep Lips-my friend Mortonjag was right all along'!

Meanwhile Collins sensing an advantage, called Sheep Lips a Jobby and was told to 'Go, ram it'. unsure.gif

Irons then scuttled off with his tongue between his legs, and the players held a wee conference on their own, during which they agreed that Mr Rae is the best thing since sliced bread. All the while AD and his two sprogs were popping in and out, and writing notes in shorthand on the back of fag packets. The team bus eventually left at six p.m. with the players lustily giving it 'Live is Life'.

I may have got some details a wee bit confused as my source was rather inebriated.
mortonjag 2009-03-02 19:30:22
QUOTE(Cawston @ Mar 2 2009, 06:38 PM) [snapback]584746[/snapback]
Pretty much what happens at every workplace the world over.

Not much of a scoop is it?

Who said it was a scoop Cawstick? The fact remains that both boys have been sickened by Irons dismissive attitude to 'the extras' as he describes them. I don't believe that's good for morale. Do you?
mortonjag 2009-03-03 06:28:49 Thank you all so much for the kind words, wit, irony, and general fun. Jaggy has been genuinely touched.

XXX wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-03 06:36:04
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 2 2009, 11:48 PM) [snapback]584905[/snapback]
Who did I reply to?

'To whom did I reply', Scrotum. Are they teaching you nothing at that College?

QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Mar 2 2009, 11:56 PM) [snapback]584923[/snapback]
Mmm. I just like the phrase jumped up little cretin, more specifically the word "cretin". A fine insult, along with plamph which someone used earlier on another thread.

There's too many idiots in the world, we need more cretins and plamphs.



...and particularly Lerts.

I exhort all posters to be alert.
mortonjag 2009-03-03 06:44:17
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Mar 2 2009, 08:22 PM) [snapback]584788[/snapback]
Interesting. Unless we go on a very good run, I cannot see DDFR renewing it; though if we were to finish mid-table and there was an absence of genuine replacements, I think it would be only fair that he is given a year's extension.

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QUOTE(Cawston @ Mar 2 2009, 10:11 PM) [snapback]584848[/snapback]
It appears Irons has a See You Next Tuesday of a personality, if that's the case then I agree it doesn't help anyone. Let's be honest though, "extras"? If they want to be footballers they're going to have to stop sleeping with the lights on.

The Hamilton guy that kicked this thread off just proves that no matter how well you think things are going there's always someone who'll piss and moan that nothings going their way.

The lads that you refer to may well be feeling pissed off just now but that doesn't make your assertion that the youth set up today is more of a shambles than it has been over the past few years any less wrong.

It is not an assertion Cawstick-it is a fact! smile.gif

QUOTE(Cawston @ Mar 2 2009, 10:24 PM) [snapback]584865[/snapback]
Never mind that Director of Football positions almost never work, where do we get the money to pay for the luxury of having one?

Do we really loads of youth teams/coaches etc.? Would the budget not be better spent on building up the scouting network and have one or two teams from under 16/17 upwards?

We don't have, and never have had a 'budget' during Shoogly's tenure. He keeps all the money in a big yellow bag, and dishes out as and when he thinks it's needed, occasionally going on a wee spending spree behind the Managers' backs.

Fortunately Mr Donald appears more 'up for it' than ever!

mortonjag 2009-03-03 06:45:51 Call somebody a POUFFE or an odious little fuckwit, and they will contact you.
mortonjag 2009-03-03 06:48:53
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 2 2009, 11:49 PM) [snapback]584911[/snapback]
By the way, you should leave a space before and after your dashes. Always happy to help. smile.gif

The highlighted text does not constitute a sentence-you are not improving, Scrotum.
mortonjag 2009-03-03 14:36:38
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 3 2009, 08:14 AM) [snapback]584964[/snapback]
I think you'll find it was intended as a minor sentence. What's your excuse?

I haven't an earthly clue what a 'minor sentence' is supposed to be! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-03 14:38:51
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 3 2009, 07:34 AM) [snapback]584960[/snapback]
Hang on a minute, I used the word cretin a few weeks back and Douglas got all huffy about it. rolleyes.gif

You used it in a KNOTTY manner Peter!
mortonjag 2009-03-03 14:39:46 1-1
mortonjag 2009-03-03 14:42:56 One game at a time. If we attack tonight we can again win!
mortonjag 2009-03-03 14:56:54 I reckon Glasgow is a Partick Thistle City! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-03 14:58:43
QUOTE(dazed @ Mar 3 2009, 01:36 PM) [snapback]585054[/snapback]
Or at least he would like her to be! wink.gif

Annabel was always a nice big lassie.
mortonjag 2009-03-03 16:31:07
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Mar 3 2009, 03:51 PM) [snapback]585120[/snapback]
A minor sentence is the 6 month stretch he did for plamphery.

Is it true about him riding that bike?
mortonjag 2009-03-03 16:32:05
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 3 2009, 04:03 PM) [snapback]585129[/snapback]
This could be the worst of all worlds. Heavy snow is forecast in Cumbernauld from about 6.00pm which meands we could all trail up there only to find the game call off just before kick off or even abandoned after starting.

Keep the faith! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-03 17:56:32
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 3 2009, 01:51 PM) [snapback]585059[/snapback]
Quite simply, Grady can play football and Wake can't.

Brian Wake is a professional footballer!
mortonjag 2009-03-03 17:59:12
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Mar 3 2009, 03:44 PM) [snapback]585114[/snapback]
2-0 to the mighty morton.....

Wake and weatherston..

Collins to hug irons in a manly way and all is well in the world

And pigs will fly over Broadwood! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-03 18:02:19
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Mar 3 2009, 04:34 PM) [snapback]585151[/snapback]
No, sniffing the saddle is his bag.

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mortonjag 2009-03-03 18:05:42
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Mar 3 2009, 02:53 PM) [snapback]585092[/snapback]
All the best morton jag, guess I missed it, like i miss your sensible posts. laugh.gif

I actually hear you sneer like Kenneth Williams at times. I really like your avatar! [attachment=5369:sneaky.gif]
mortonjag 2009-03-03 18:13:13 It's perfectly obvious the Catholics are completely wrong. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-04 07:32:16 laugh.gif

Yes.

Fortunately I'm leaving shortly to do a favour for a lady. I can't be arsed listening to usual the barrage of abuse when I dare to defend myself against the pathetic weans and the even more pathetic 'big boys' on this wee pubic massage board.

Last night the boys who wore the Morton shirts acquitted themselves honourably. I was truly proud when they eventually beat ten men, with no small assistance from lady luck. For once they tried to score goals as all true footballers should.

Jim McInally was a Muppet and the football we endured during his tenure was often abysmal. He is, however, an 'awful' nice Muppet.

Sheep lips was, is, and always will be insufferable! ph34r.gif mad.gif [attachment=5372:thumbdown.gif]

Right, I'm off to prepare myself for action!
mortonjag 2009-03-04 13:15:18
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Mar 4 2009, 09:18 AM) [snapback]585665[/snapback]
Irons got everything right last night. The team were dominant for almost 90 minutes and he can't be held responsible for the 2 goals conceded while I was away for a pish quite happy that we were 1-0 up!

Even after that he made a couple of good attacking substitutions and we went on to record a good, deserved win.

'Was', Scrotum-team is a singular noun! mad.gif

QUOTE(Mick @ Mar 4 2009, 01:01 PM) [snapback]585728[/snapback]
Soor plooms?

I'm extremely fond of a big yellow bag of Douglas's best Soor Plooms. Some of his confections are utterly naff like every manager he's ever appointed at Cappielow, but a sook of Shoogly's Soor Plooms sure satisfies this cynical old sod!
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mortonjag 2009-03-04 13:17:41 Well done Mr Irons-at last you are listening to what I tell you! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-04 13:21:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 3 2009, 10:03 PM) [snapback]585552[/snapback]
Clyde 2-4 (HT 2-1) Morton

MacLennan 44
Gemmill 45

Paartalu 32
Russell 70
Wake 86
Wake 90

Bookings:
Gibson 1

Bookings:
Jenkins 10
Weatherson 88

Sent off:
Gibson 61


What a ripper second half.

What did Irons say at half time ?

I hope it was recorded for future reference.

Perhaps MJ will share it with us.

smile.gif


I shall attempt to find out!

Sheep lips and Joan embraced warmly at the end. It was very touching. I'm glad they came together.
mortonjag 2009-03-04 13:26:33 I'm thinking of our trip to Palmerston at the weekend. It would be lovely to put three wins on the trot under our belts. The pressure is slightly off the Manager-hopefully he will continue with the successful (and elementary) ploy of trying to win instead of trying to stop the opposition.

We've been plagued by horrible 'come downs' for ages it seems.

Here's hoping. The Monkey not only states we'll win, but predicts TWO goals from LEAFY! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-04 13:37:12
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 4 2009, 01:22 PM) [snapback]585737[/snapback]
In much the same way that dashes - like these - are correctly spaced.

Stop being a total knob, Scrotum-I'm dashed if I'm going to change my punctuation for anybody.
mortonjag 2009-03-04 13:42:01
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Mar 3 2009, 08:22 PM) [snapback]585336[/snapback]
She has just went straight ahead at the roundabout, checked her mirror and the guy was no where to be seen, before his shenanigans!

In that situation, a roundabout should be approached in the inside lane if faster drivers wish to approach in the 'overtaking lane'!
mortonjag 2009-03-04 13:48:35 If you can give me a universally acceptable definition of 'human' I'll attempt to reply.

Nickerless is barely humanoid.
mortonjag 2009-03-04 13:58:41 The indisputable fact is that children inevitably wonder why others in the same street don't go to the same school as them.

Could be because the parents are wealthy and have chosen private education.

Could be because a child has to attend a special needs school.

Usually it's because parents think it's OK to perpetuate the most socially divisive habit in the West of Scotland.
mortonjag 2009-03-04 14:01:26
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 4 2009, 01:54 PM) [snapback]585749[/snapback]
Well you'll have to face the eternal shame of being an ignorant tool.

'Tool', Scrotum.
mortonjag 2009-03-04 14:02:59
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 4 2009, 01:59 PM) [snapback]585751[/snapback]
Interesting, as I might be meeting up with some uni mates early doors in Dumfries for the game biggrin.gif

Are you back at College, PD?
mortonjag 2009-03-04 14:06:24
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Mar 4 2009, 01:59 PM) [snapback]585752[/snapback]
MJ, why have you got Peter Ustinov as your avatar?

I shall change it to a dog-just for you! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-04 14:28:52
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Mar 4 2009, 02:10 PM) [snapback]585756[/snapback]
No need, is there? happy.gif

Is Ustinov a dog?
mortonjag 2009-03-04 14:54:19
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 4 2009, 02:33 PM) [snapback]585763[/snapback]
So why highlight some one else’s error? mellow.gif
Also, why the name calling again?

Ask Scrotum.
mortonjag 2009-03-04 14:57:15
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Mar 4 2009, 02:37 PM) [snapback]585764[/snapback]
Woof!
I think you're witholding information about big Ustinov...we should be told!

Peter is a wolf with sheep lips.
mortonjag 2009-03-04 14:58:36
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Mar 4 2009, 02:55 PM) [snapback]585774[/snapback]
Dough tongue.gif

....a Dear?
mortonjag 2009-03-04 15:00:05 There is only one reason why we may fail to achieve my predicted fifth spot.
mortonjag 2009-03-04 15:04:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 4 2009, 12:59 AM) [snapback]585622[/snapback]
laugh.gif

Now if thats not the pot calling the kettle racist.
Has anyone else not noticed anything wrong with the way the Mods act on the forum? i dont remember ever not posting for fear of a 10% warning.

The only thing not doing this board any favours are the people who take it too seriously.

I concur!
mortonjag 2009-03-04 16:33:15
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 4 2009, 04:14 PM) [snapback]585815[/snapback]
...I have this bizarre personality trait, people want to remain my friend even after we don't see each other every day.

happy.gif

rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-04 16:34:35
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Mar 4 2009, 04:02 PM) [snapback]585808[/snapback]
Me? Or vikingTON? You seem to have used it on us both, or did you perhaps mistake me for him?!

SPARROT was promoted to Scrotum.
mortonjag 2009-03-05 07:02:33
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Mar 4 2009, 10:55 PM) [snapback]585985[/snapback]
Only an odous little f***wit of a pouffe would own such a horrible ugly dug as the one in that photie.

I know you prefer to sook up to pussies than to dog lovers, Willy Man.
mortonjag 2009-03-05 07:12:29
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Mar 4 2009, 04:42 PM) [snapback]585833[/snapback]
Explain this then. sad.gif

Greacen escroto laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-05 16:02:54
QUOTE(dazed @ Mar 5 2009, 10:22 AM) [snapback]586075[/snapback]
Miss Sturgeon is clearly more human than the pink suited heifer!

[attachment=5378:nicola_sturgeon.jpg]

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mortonjag 2009-03-05 16:08:18 Scargill and his ilk never gave a fuck about the workers. I felt very sorry for individual miners, but was happy to see that knobend destroyed.
mortonjag 2009-03-05 20:46:11
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Mar 5 2009, 07:21 PM) [snapback]586230[/snapback]
You deserve to be reported for being a cheeky odous little f***wit rolleyes.gif

Jobby! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-05 20:53:52
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Mar 5 2009, 06:43 PM) [snapback]586218[/snapback]
we used to call our mates willie arthur scargill cause it had ginger hair that looked windswept and had a small white lump sticking out from it, how we got so much info from the urinals is beyond me but heho thats what it was called.

why we got to name a mates member is quite disturbing in retrospect but such is life.

on the miners strike the witch had it in for the working classes as her vision of greed and hatred didn't involve folk with integrity and common decency. may she burn in hell

Like Scargill?
mortonjag 2009-03-05 20:56:25
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 5 2009, 06:16 PM) [snapback]586215[/snapback]
post what you like within the guidelines smile.gif

Good to know things have improved! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-05 20:58:11
QUOTE(GreatKingRat @ Mar 5 2009, 06:38 PM) [snapback]586217[/snapback]
I hate smilies.

ph34r.gif mellow.gif blink.gif mad.gif huh.gif happy.gif wub.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-05 21:01:16
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 5 2009, 08:56 PM) [snapback]586247[/snapback]
The Unionist cabal at Holyrood indicated they will deny the people of Scotland a vote to determine it's constitutional future.
The Tories, Labour and Lib-Dems formed a unionist alliance that could vote down the Bill on a referendum when it's introduced to parliament next year.

Holyrood rejects referendum plans
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7924661.stm
Good old british democracy eh ?

I though Bawheid had everything sorted Spurtle.

He's REALLY doing very poorly indeed. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-05 21:03:27
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 5 2009, 08:47 PM) [snapback]586242[/snapback]
Registers 'may have been binned'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7926635.stm

"Marked electoral registers for the Glenrothes by-election may have been thrown out with the rubbish, an independent probe has suggested"

british democracy in action........what a f***in joke ! mad.gif

Bawheid was fucked over in that election-missing papers or not Spurtle. Just accept that Mason's victory was a vote against that creep of a Labour candidate. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-05 21:06:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 5 2009, 08:37 PM) [snapback]586239[/snapback]
I like schools that teach the use of apostrophes.

Apostrophes will save us from the aliens.

Jesus had twelve apostrophes if I recall.
mortonjag 2009-03-05 21:09:14
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Mar 5 2009, 09:02 PM) [snapback]586253[/snapback]
Was talking more of the common man that once was once the bedrock of society, afore her lot took control and made it such a benchmark to folk such as mugabe and pinochet.

Harare - Zimbabwe's President Robert Mugabe praised former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher on Wednesday as a "man-woman" who could resolve issues but said Tony Blair was a "disaster" for his country.

Addressing supporters in Harare at a campaign rally, Mugabe recounted that he had held a "man-to-man" talk with Blair in 1983 to discuss the arrest of 13 British air force officers on suspicion of destroying the country's aircraft.

"We sat down in 1983 in New Delhi, and we had a man-to-man talk. Thatcher was a man-woman," Mugabe said.

a better epitaph I would struggle to find

What would Scargill's epitaph be?

'My vaulting ambition destroyed the miners'?
mortonjag 2009-03-05 21:14:32
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Mar 5 2009, 07:58 PM) [snapback]586233[/snapback]
I always had them down as these two.

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mortonjag 2009-03-05 21:21:20
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 5 2009, 09:13 PM) [snapback]586261[/snapback]
The actual Bill doesn't get introduced till next year MJ. Don't write it of yet laugh.gif

Well what are you girnin' aboot? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-05 21:22:32
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 5 2009, 09:15 PM) [snapback]586264[/snapback]
Disagree slightly with the bit in bold. She told us we needed to buy what we didn't need to own. I really believe that lack of good quality social housing is one of the causes of today's societal ills. The miners strike politicized me as a 15 year old. Scargill's mistake was not calling the ballot. Played into Thatcher's hand and let her give the impression that she was on the side of the common man who was being held hostage by the nasty leninist.

Scargill was a shite! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-05 21:25:33
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 5 2009, 09:18 PM) [snapback]586266[/snapback]
Perhaps MJ. But I like a good conspiracy theory. wink.gif

Shame on the anti-democratic brits though mad.gif

On that we are united!

I heard a wee whisper that Joan has been fiddling with sheep lips' resignation speech!
mortonjag 2009-03-05 21:26:08
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 5 2009, 09:22 PM) [snapback]586270[/snapback]
huh.gif

unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-05 21:46:26 Socially unacceptable?
mortonjag 2009-03-05 21:57:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 5 2009, 09:51 PM) [snapback]586280[/snapback]
A GLASGOW MP has blamed teenage mums for bringing up a new underclass'.
Simple solution - final solution.

Make heterosexuality for teenagers a hanging offence.

...or chop off all willies at puberty and graft them back on twenty years later? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-05 22:02:08
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Mar 4 2009, 03:09 PM) [snapback]585785[/snapback]
Change your sig then. tongue.gif

Credit where it's due to Irons, he did a good job last night.

I gave him advice on his constipation.
mortonjag 2009-03-05 22:05:41
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Mar 4 2009, 04:06 PM) [snapback]585811[/snapback]
If we're sticking with 3-5-2 then definitely not, there's no way Russell offers enough defensively to play at wing back.

In any case I wouldn't drop Finlayson, he's had better games than last night but he's been playing well and as others have pointed out, his crossing's really improved. So has Jim's, although some of his corners were Maisano-esque last night.

A sign that the right things are being done on the training ground, with our wide players finally learning to cross the ball after never having much success with it under previous managers?

It's a very sad day indeed when professional footballers are being praised for being able to sling over the odd half decent cross.

I don't understand those daft formations, but I can see what LEAFY adds to the attack, and he's light years ahead of superkev in that respect.
mortonjag 2009-03-06 07:21:22 Conservative leader Annabel Goldie said: "The SNP cupboard is bare. The last vestige of a flagship policy has been shot to pieces. Local income tax was ditched when the SNP lost a non-binding vote by five. Today they have been comprehensively mauled, losing by 25 votes.

"Now the Scottish Government needs to move on and deal with the real and pressing issues of the day, such as Labour's recession and Scotland's broken society." laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-06 07:23:54 Twenty four pages.

Indoctrination is alive and kicking!

Poor show chaps dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-06 07:25:55
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 6 2009, 12:04 AM) [snapback]586307[/snapback]
Yeah, coz criminal justice is the same as a constitutional arrangement 1eye.gif

Is there a depth you won't stoop to? Just curious.

You're jealous again!
mortonjag 2009-03-06 07:27:50 I'm Mortonjag and I'm not there! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-06 08:06:11 I reckon a good Manager could have the present squad very near the top of the table.
mortonjag 2009-03-06 08:10:09
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 6 2009, 07:41 AM) [snapback]586332[/snapback]
Aye, they are down on their knees praying the SNP ditch the referendum. It won't happen and it won't go away !

Unionists trying to suppress the democracy of the people will backfire - big time !

We always knew the unionists will use every trick in the book to fend off independence. All of this has already been predicted many times on this very forum rolleyes.gif

As for the SNP and policies, they have already delivered 1/2 of their manifesto, and we are only 1/2 way through this session of parliament. Bang on track I would say rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2009-03-06 08:12:34
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 5 2009, 11:29 PM) [snapback]586299[/snapback]
No. He was a stubborn, dogmatic pseudo-messianic idealogue, just like Thatcher. Let's be clear, Scargill might have misled the miners but it was Thatcher that destroyed them. Damn Thatcherism and Blairism, there is a better way.



QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 6 2009, 07:54 AM) [snapback]586335[/snapback]
Scargillism? The Fifth Way?
Arthur fell into the classic trap a lot of socialists fall into by forgetting that there is the democratic will of the people. At least Thatcher was a democrat.

One of the positive things about Thatcher is that, on a sub-conscious level, she taught me that no other f***er is gonna do it for me and that I need to do it myself. Which is quite a good set of rules to live by.

Thatcher and Scargill were both egomaniacal.

Scargill was also a shite.
mortonjag 2009-03-06 08:16:05
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 6 2009, 08:08 AM) [snapback]586343[/snapback]
No it's not you old rascal.

We can vote for the Essenpee if we wish to join the Eck's arc of prosperity.

Bawheid-the Neo Noah, or a latter day Maid of Orleans? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-06 08:48:35
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 6 2009, 08:15 AM) [snapback]586347[/snapback]
No need for a Public Inquiry into the tragic death of Brandon Muir. In fact no need for any inquiry. Eck knows the facts.
Omniscient Eck clicky.

I particularly liked Eck's comment that

Damaging, the truth may hurt us so let's hide it away.

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...even more strange when the bloated buffoon followed with this:

Mr Salmond said it was essential that Parliament, society, social workers and local government made sure they were doing everything possible to meet the challenges. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-06 08:50:25
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 6 2009, 08:18 AM) [snapback]586352[/snapback]
Potty mouth. You need to moderate your swear words Douglas. Tsk tsk.

If he'd been Scottish I'd have said 'keech', Peter.
mortonjag 2009-03-06 08:54:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 6 2009, 08:48 AM) [snapback]586366[/snapback]
If we go up, IMHO, Mr Donald will happily spend a few dollars.

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....he's going to buy Aussies? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-06 09:25:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 6 2009, 09:04 AM) [snapback]586373[/snapback]
Gidday MJ,

From your recent emails, you know his plans better than I, mate.

Mr Donald may be silly,but he's not daft.

Then again, who scored the other night when the Celtic played the Killie
? ? ? ?

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unsure.gif Pardon my invincible ignorance Newt, and PLEASE don't tell me you get Aussies called McDonald.
mortonjag 2009-03-06 09:28:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 6 2009, 08:58 AM) [snapback]586372[/snapback]
... and some inverted commons

And he kicked the parentheses out of the temple.
mortonjag 2009-03-06 09:31:34
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 6 2009, 09:10 AM) [snapback]586376[/snapback]
You mean "I am Mortonjag and I am not all there"

I expected that riposte from one of the weans.

I was correct.
mortonjag 2009-03-06 09:34:43
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 6 2009, 09:17 AM) [snapback]586381[/snapback]
Actually prior to yesterday, Mrs Alibi, who is a principal teacher involved in pupil support and deals with a lot of pupils from situations similar to this poor child's, commented that as the murderer had only moved in with the mother about three weeks before the murder, there wasn't really time for the situation to come to the attention of the authorities. She also commented"why are the social workers getting blamed?" when it was the boyfriend who murdered the child. It's a bit like someone being pissed and falling in a river and drowning, and a bystander gets blamed because he/she didn't throw a lifebelt in quickly enough.

I'm no fan of social workers and undoubtedly some recent cases have shown that some of them are about as much use as a barbed wire fanny, but in this particular case I tend to agree that the fault lies with the murderer, and probably to some extent at least with the feckless mother. I think Salmond called it right - and my view on that is not because I am an SNP supporter btw but because I think Mrs Alibi called it right first.

BTW that last sentence, MJ, about "meeting challenges". Meaningless waffle IMHO.

Since when did it take three weeks to contact the Polis or Social Work Department. wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-06 09:37:19
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 6 2009, 09:31 AM) [snapback]586390[/snapback]
I find myself agreeing with him. Lack of ambition is destroying Scotland (and I assume that applies in the rest of the disunited kingdom). The current vogue for portraying education as uncool, being thick as cool, and being of above avergae intelligence or having qualifications or being successful as uncool, is harmful. As is the subtle promotion of drink and drug culture as some sort of huge joke also with connotations of coolness. Does no-one agree that having third generation unemployed with no ability or qualifications and no prospect of ever coming off benefits is dragging the country down?

I do feel that Labour have a vested interest in ensuring mediocrity for their own electoral benefit.

Any chance of a detailed breakdown of your feeling?
mortonjag 2009-03-06 09:38:57
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 6 2009, 09:35 AM) [snapback]586392[/snapback]
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Bit harsh, MJ.

Alibi frequented Cappielow nearly 50 years ago.

'weans' then! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-06 09:42:57
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 6 2009, 09:24 AM) [snapback]586383[/snapback]
That vote yesterday was as predictable as the sun setting. For Labour it was all about cueing up their glorious leader, two eyed British genius Gordon Brown, with an easy shot at goal when he speaks to the Labour conference in Dundee today.

What we are seeing is the reason why Labour insisted on PR for Holyrood. Nothing remotely contentious can be pushed through.

It seems clear that the various unionist parties are not going to take the chance that they are wrong in their assertions about the amount of support for independence. They want the SP to be a Parish Council and little more.

TiD, how do you think this matter should be played? You support independence - I'd be interested to know how you would get there given the rather sloping playing field that is what we have to deal with.

When there is a strong enough vote for the SNP a referendum will become redundant. The first step towards that will come when the electorate begins to be treated as perceptive tax payers rather than being fed self gratifying spin by that leering buffoon and his hapless cronies..
mortonjag 2009-03-06 09:46:00
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 6 2009, 09:30 AM) [snapback]586388[/snapback]
No - they are imports like Stuart and Invincible.

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Have they started playing soccer with a proper football 'Down Under'?
mortonjag 2009-03-06 09:47:32
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 6 2009, 09:45 AM) [snapback]586399[/snapback]
Yes, no, no, yes and chance would be a fine thing. laugh.gif
I'm in no way a supporter of Thatcher, she was a vile woman and a class warrior however as with everything there are positives and negatives in all aspects of life.

Correct Peter. Scargill was a jobby.
mortonjag 2009-03-06 09:49:03
QUOTE(Thrax @ Mar 6 2009, 09:38 AM) [snapback]586394[/snapback]
I've never put euromillions on ever but i've decided that i'll just have to win it tonight since its 85 million smile.gif

those who join me will share the spoils

Good gracious, Mr Donald has spent a lifetime accumulating that sort of MUNNY!
mortonjag 2009-03-06 09:53:09 Another pet hate is back windows covered in posters-'Dad's Taxi', 'Angel on Board' etc.


The one that irritates me most is 'Small Person on Board'-are you supposed to take extra care because the cunt can't see over the steering wheel? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-06 10:02:17
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Mar 6 2009, 09:55 AM) [snapback]586407[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif ???

You got whooshed for not picking up a tongue-in-cheek comment. You pie. bouncy.gif

Greacen genitales es un pastel?
mortonjag 2009-03-06 10:09:11
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 6 2009, 09:57 AM) [snapback]586409[/snapback]
I think people forget the context and events that paved the way for Thatcher. Britain was a complete mess in the 1970s. This myth of a Jerusalem of council housing and communities is exactly that, a myth. I lived in a terrible council house in Finneston Street which was riddled with dampness. Granted there was not the drug problems there is now but the 1970s were not some socialist utopia. I'd rather be young now than then.
I worked in Scott Lithgow at the same time as the miners strike and I remember union meetings where guys were bullied and intimidated and I remember "token one-day strike" motions raised at the drop of a hat at every meeting. It was absolutely ridiculous. Britain might be 'broken' now but it was equally as bad in the 1970s

Correct again Peter-in those 'seventies' the working man was taken to the cleaners not so much by greedy capitalist employers as by greedier neo capitalists masquerading as their representatives.

I've never voted Tory or Labour, but I was glad when Scargill was crushed. He WAS a jobby. Even his hair was a keechy colour.
mortonjag 2009-03-06 10:14:31
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 6 2009, 10:03 AM) [snapback]586414[/snapback]
There is going to be an inquiry, in fact it has already started. I sympathise with Eck's sentiments, albeit he should have remained silent until the inquiry is completed. It's far too easy to fall into line with the Daily Mail mentality and scapegoat social workers. The service is seriously under-resourced and front-line workers are often overstretched and overstressed in providing support services for 'problem' families. A social worker didn't kill the wean, Robert Cunningham did.

Should the wean have been removed from his mother and taken into care? With the benefit of hindsight, obviously yes. The inquiry will no doubt establish whether or not all the correct procedures were adhered to. Remember that social workers cannot act unilaterally, care orders are considered and implemented in conjunction with doctors and the police.
The inquiry's remit should extend to a policy review rather than be limited to reviewing procedures. IMO the policy of preferring the provision of home support rather than residential or foster care to such vulnerable children requires questioning (particularly where drug addiction is a factor, can a mother on methadone be deemed capable of child care?). The availability of adequate finance for care places will come into that equation.

Undoubtedly and frequently Mr Edwards.
mortonjag 2009-03-06 10:24:12
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 6 2009, 10:10 AM) [snapback]586418[/snapback]
MJ the jobby crusher. laugh.gif

Coprotriptor!
mortonjag 2009-03-06 10:29:15
QUOTE(dazed @ Mar 6 2009, 10:19 AM) [snapback]586423[/snapback]
Maybe its something to do with your avatar! smile.gif thats why hes girnin' ! that would scare a ghost on a dark night! laugh.gif

Alex is playing his cards well , he cant loose really, if he gets the ballot through - he wins , he also wins if the unionists block it they will be seen as denying democracy etc smile.gif

His avatar is also of a lazy bitch!
mortonjag 2009-03-06 10:31:01
QUOTE(dazed @ Mar 6 2009, 10:23 AM) [snapback]586424[/snapback]
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Big goldie did not say anything!

Joking aside , there should be an enquiry , yet again the authorities do their Pontious Pilate bit when another Bairn has perished at the hands of those who should be looking after them.

Its a National disgrace.

Whacko tells us there will be an enquiry! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-06 10:35:32
QUOTE(dazed @ Mar 6 2009, 10:31 AM) [snapback]586429[/snapback]
It hard to tell which is the biggest dug your hound or big Goldie..........the greyhound is definitely better looking !

Perhaps we should re-name her Annabel! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-06 10:40:43
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 6 2009, 10:36 AM) [snapback]586432[/snapback]
Undoubtedly capable? I doubt it. biggrin.gif

You appear to suggest that no person who has been prescribed Methadone is capable of looking after a child.

Evidence to the contrary is overwhelming Mr Edwards. Have you eventually exited the Mail reader closet?
mortonjag 2009-03-06 10:42:57
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 6 2009, 10:41 AM) [snapback]586435[/snapback]
laugh.gif The names David, not Jimmy. Anyway, the Times tells us that Dundee City Council tells us that there will be an independent inquiry.

So the Cooncil's calling Bawheid a liar too? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-06 10:44:10
QUOTE(cmdc @ Mar 6 2009, 10:35 AM) [snapback]586431[/snapback]
Saw Salmond deliver a lecture at Glasgow Uni last night - was interested to hear what he had to say going in. He was pretty comfortable taking questions from the floor at the end, and gave some decent answers too, but the lecture itself was so-so.

What was his subject? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-06 10:52:41
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 6 2009, 10:46 AM) [snapback]586439[/snapback]
laugh.gif I suggest nothing, I ask a question. I'm no fan of the methadone programme though, I'll admit to that. Addicted mothers often sell overprescribed doses to obtain herion.

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Stop being evasive!

Many, many children have 'survived' parenting by those prescribed Methadone.

To paraphrase your original comment:

Can a mother who drinks alcohol be deemed capable of child care? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-06 10:56:00
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Mar 6 2009, 10:52 AM) [snapback]586441[/snapback]
I cant understand some of you guys on this.... I have read your posts on other issues/topics and you all come across as people who belive in the rights of the people, guy's who would stand up for each other and belive in the rights of everyone.. yet, when it comes to a choice between having your own country independant and ruling itself, or continuing to be the subserviant less well off partner of a bunch of conning murdering b*****ds..you argue for the latter... why do people belive that Scotland as a nation is so dependant on others that we couldnt look after ourselves... do you really belive this..??? people who emigrate or go to abroad to live and work have to learn to live in the country of their choice.. I have heard guys on here applauding others for getting out of this country and going abroad to better themselves.. we can all better ourselves if we get rid of what is holding us back... ENGERLUND and this percieved non existant union... and if it's just Alex Salmond that makes you want to remain under English rule (MJ).. then first.. get independance then look at other choices for a scottish leader.. unless we leave our 'special' relationship with england we are going to be dragged into the unholy world dominated american state, then we really wont be able to struggle free.

Nobody rules Mortonjag! ph34r.gif

Bawheid is holding back progress towards independence. That is my whole point.
mortonjag 2009-03-06 11:02:10 I'm just off to purchase two of those chattering timepieces. My Mummy would be lost without them. The alarm is a brilliant 'Cock a doodle doo'!

This time around I shall deliver them by hand instead of entrusting to the Mail Room at my partner's work. There was a full scale alert when the alarm went off! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-06 11:04:04
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Mar 6 2009, 10:59 AM) [snapback]586447[/snapback]
Is that you pretending again that you and jag have some super secretive spooks style chats, with super duper burn after reading type info on the Ton that only the pair of you have access to? Forwards containing information on how to make your chopper bigger are fairly common!

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mortonjag 2009-03-06 11:10:04
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 6 2009, 11:02 AM) [snapback]586449[/snapback]
Stop being silly! biggrin.gif Depends on how much she drinks, whether she's addicted. Many, many children have 'survived' parenting to those addicted to alcohol as well as those addicted to methadone. I question the quality of care, whether it is fair on the child to be exposed to such misery. Should the child be taken into care until the parent is in recovery from addiction, not just in maintenance? That's worthy of consideration in any policy review I think.

Yet again you generalise. Why do you imply that Methadone users inevitably live miserable lives?

My correlation with alcohol was entirely apt. In Scotland, FAR more misery and child abuse result from alcohol addiction that from 'Meth' usage.

Perhaps I should be KNOTTY and add that I do have some experience in the field of addiction management! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-06 11:24:37
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Mar 6 2009, 11:04 AM) [snapback]586451[/snapback]
how can he be ? seriously... the snp are the best chance we have of independance.. so i personally think that living in an independant Scotland is more important than who the party that has the best chance of delivering this leader is... what matters more to you mj.... independance or your dislike of Salmond.

I believe you are being deliberately obstreperous!

Irons is the best chance we have of avoiding relegation-AS THINGS STAND! I desperately want to avoid relegation but I DON'T think Sheep Lips is the best person for the job.

I very strongly dislike everything I see in Bawheid. I do not for one tiny moment think that an independent Scotland is the overriding motivator in his existence, and that is why I constantly pillory him.

I would love to see an independent Scotland run by a political party whose raison d'etre was the general good.

Anybody who appoints a bearded lady as Health Minister should get a pair of NHS glasses.
mortonjag 2009-03-06 13:14:01
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 6 2009, 11:37 AM) [snapback]586465[/snapback]
Try and work it out for yourself.

That's a 'No'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-06 13:15:07
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 6 2009, 11:39 AM) [snapback]586467[/snapback]
It is rather strange that documents that have by law to be kept are stored in black bin bags right next to where the rubbish is put. You'd almost think that someone was trying to get rid of some evidence of an electoral fraud...

'I'd'!
mortonjag 2009-03-06 13:16:37
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Mar 6 2009, 12:17 PM) [snapback]586480[/snapback]
"I think; therefore I am."

As opposed to
"I'm pink; therefore I'm spam."

'I'm link therefore I'm sausage'?
mortonjag 2009-03-06 13:23:01
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Mar 6 2009, 11:37 AM) [snapback]586466[/snapback]
understand.. but what is the option.. unless all scots stand together and work together for our countrys freedom (yea mel gibson an all that !) and right to make our own decisions and rules, decision and rules that suit our way of life, then we wont get there any time soon... we will still be bogged down in the propoganda (thanks for that word tid) that england is feeding us, the devide and conqour tactics of Brown and his rulers will keep us firmly on the path to nowhere

I think that's the mentality that Bawheid craves. We're entitled to be proud of our heritage, and we're entitled to believe that we could run our country more efficiently as an independent unit. Paranoia, bashing the Monarchy and 'the English', and fighting talk all make us look daft.
mortonjag 2009-03-06 13:28:24
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 6 2009, 11:32 AM) [snapback]586462[/snapback]
That's not what I said - the guy moved in with the woman and only three weeks later he murdered the child. Would anyone have spotted the problem to the extent that they would have phoned social work on day one or even day 21? I doubt it. It appears there was little warning of this happening. The people to blame are the murderer, and the mother who ignored the fact that her son was obviously in distress.

Correct-hence the need for an enquiry!

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 6 2009, 11:47 AM) [snapback]586471[/snapback]
Again, I imply nothing, I ask a question. Agreed that alcohol addiction is a far bigger problem than herion / metahadone addiction, but your question wasn't entirely apt, it related to drinking, not addictive drinking.

..in EXACTLY the same way as your 'question' laugh.gif related to Methadone users and not Methadone abusers! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-06 13:31:20
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 6 2009, 01:08 PM) [snapback]586504[/snapback]
I don't think there's anything wrong with seeking the best education for your child but I've always wondered if the education you get in different schools with varying reputations is as different as you might think. I've always been of the opinion that the quality of education isn't the most important thing - it's the child and his/ her parents that are the key factors.

Put a lazy, not-so-bright, poorly behaved child with parents who don't bother into the best school and they still wont achieve anything but put a hard working, intelligent child who makes the most of the education they get and gets a lot of support from their parents into any school and they will still achieve good marks.

That's possibly worthy of a separate thread. Experience suggests that crap schools hold back the gifted more than excellent schools bring on the dunderheids!
mortonjag 2009-03-06 13:34:49
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Mar 6 2009, 12:29 PM) [snapback]586488[/snapback]
Yeah, lovely stuff Jona, puts my clunky, Freeservers template site back in the lower leagues to shame! smile.gif

Tuesday night was great in the end, but once more, we were caught napping with their two goals. A decent team, which Clyde certainly aren't, would have punished us and not allowed us back in.

Irons throwing on subs in desperation and playing three up front was no masterstroke, it was a sensible decision that bore fruit after they had a man sent off. He did his job. I have no complaints about the goals, but it wasn't managerial genius. Russell has been wasting away on the bench or worse, in the stand, for a long time, and Wake has been so wasteful in the past, so both came good at the right time!

I believe Irons is a good manager,
and he will guide us to a decent mid-table finish, even after Ross County etc's games in hand are played. But, these lapses in concentration in January, meant we are 9 points behind St Johnstone, rather than 3 or 4! We can pretty much put the relegation issue to bed before the international break in three weeks, with Clyde and Airdrie at home next week and with games against Queens and Ross County away coming up. I hope Irons can motivate them to do this, and that game at Dingwall is an ideal opportunity to show how much different the side is five months on!

Irons biggest problem is that he is a DREADFUL man manager who couldn't motivate a mouse to eat cheese.
mortonjag 2009-03-06 13:37:15
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 6 2009, 01:20 PM) [snapback]586509[/snapback]
I know Tom Harris from my days in the Cathcart Branch of the Labour Party. I agree with his sentiments. Patrick Harvie's response was predictably embarrassing.

I know Annabel Goldie from my days in Kilmacolm Primary School. She often talks a load of crap! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-06 13:57:27
QUOTE(Dougie @ Mar 6 2009, 01:45 PM) [snapback]586518[/snapback]
DI job is made harder by the fact these players were pampered and pandered to under the previous regime. Had you told me in March last year we would have been fifth in the first division in March 2009 I would have bit the hand off you. Whilst at the same time acknowledging that there is a lot of work to be done to improve the quality of the football on display I think DI deserves some credit for the turn around over the last year, bad man manager or not.

The players who have demonstrated most resistance to Irons' bullying were not, or were only barely part of JM's squad!

That is a fact.

One very experienced pro (signed by Irons) is so sick of his nonsense that he has told Shoogly he wants away at the end of the season.

That's also a fact.
mortonjag 2009-03-06 14:05:18
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 6 2009, 01:40 PM) [snapback]586516[/snapback]
Not at all. People can drink without being addicted. I presume that people who are prescribed methadone are addicted. You're being obtuse as usual. I ask the question whether it is right to leave children in the care (albeit supported) of an addicted parent (to alcohol and/or drugs) who is in maintenance rather than recovery. It's a question of risk management, do the possible advantages outweigh the potential risks. You think so apparently, I have my doubts.

You asked: 'Can a mother on methadone be deemed capable of child care'?

I replied, 'Undoubtedly and frequently'.

You are now showing your complete ignorance (or simply trying to 'cop out'), by throwing in words like 'maintenance', and 'recovery'.

Do you really know anything about the treatment of addiction Mr. Edwards? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-06 14:08:17
QUOTE(king_bob @ Mar 6 2009, 02:03 PM) [snapback]586526[/snapback]
Who may this be?

I wonder! dry.gif

QUOTE(Dougie @ Mar 6 2009, 02:03 PM) [snapback]586527[/snapback]
I dont give a toss what the players think about it. So long as he mentains results on the park then he does not have to answer to his players.

JTT was respected by the players and had he stayed in charge we would be gracing the likes of Somerset, Starks and bloody Methill.

THAT IS A FACT

So i will be thankful for small mercies!

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mortonjag 2009-03-06 14:10:50
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 6 2009, 01:43 PM) [snapback]586517[/snapback]
We can all be guilty of that, eh? tongue.gif

You certainly can! laugh.gif

QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Mar 6 2009, 01:47 PM) [snapback]586520[/snapback]
First love,eh? wub.gif

Did she do handstands for you MJ?

She was only a kid in my wee brothers' class. Her big brother Sanders was in mine and always wore a kilt to school.
mortonjag 2009-03-06 14:12:09
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Mar 6 2009, 01:49 PM) [snapback]586521[/snapback]
mj the subject of independance and the craving for it by a lot of scots, is a very emotional thing.. I personally cant help getting emotional whenever i think of a free scotland (exactly how free after independance is another matter).. is it paranoia.. or have enough facts been let out the bag to prove the lies by the english govt.. bashing the monarchy.. why not she's not my queen.. yet i still have to pay towards her upkeep.. and fighting talk..yes why not.. we want independance...we should talk like a nation who are strong and passionate about it.. if thats fighting talk then i'm all for it.... bring it on ya english b*****ds!

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mortonjag 2009-03-06 14:16:29
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 6 2009, 01:46 PM) [snapback]586519[/snapback]
Your own experience? Were you gifted? A dunderheid? A gifted dunderheid? biggrin.gif

I was extremely gifted Mr Edwards.

The experience I cited is that of those experienced in educational matters-people, I hasten to add, ph34r.gif with no political axe to grind!
mortonjag 2009-03-06 16:29:29
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 6 2009, 02:37 PM) [snapback]586543[/snapback]
laugh.gif
Ok, help out the ignorant. What's the difference between maintenance and recovery? Why is methadone prescribed? Is methadone more addictive than heroin? Are people who are prescribed methadone addicted to it? Pray tell, Mentaljag the omniscient. tongue.gif

The Lord helps those who help themselves, Mr Edwards.

Many, many folk who are being treated for/are in recovery from addictive illnesses make outstanding contributions to society. Successfully raising children is merely one of those.
mortonjag 2009-03-07 07:21:45
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Mar 6 2009, 08:36 PM) [snapback]586653[/snapback]
I'd go with that too. Dunno why, just would.

WORD OF WARNING: every time this season when everyone is confident on the back of a good win or two and predict wins, we get beat. Don't be surprised it if's another let-down followed by mortonjag coming on and telling us that he was right all along that Irons should be sacked, and for a week until we win again some of you will agree.

Mortonjag fue, es y será siempre correcta sobre Ovejas Labios! laugh.gif


Anyway-fuck Sheep Lips-here's what Jag said earlier this week:









'I'm thinking of our trip to Palmerston at the weekend. It would be lovely to put three wins on the trot under our belts. The pressure is slightly off the Manager-hopefully he will continue with the successful (and elementary) ploy of trying to win instead of trying to stop the opposition.

We've been plagued by horrible 'come downs' for ages it seems.

Here's hoping. The Monkey not only states we'll win, but predicts TWO goals from LEAFY'! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-07 07:25:09
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Mar 6 2009, 06:49 PM) [snapback]586627[/snapback]
did you just make an politically incorrect statement towards vertically challenged people?
If you did you will have most of the port (including me rolleyes.gif ) and greenock on you!!!

Fuck off Quasi. ph34r.gif

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 6 2009, 10:55 PM) [snapback]586698[/snapback]
...let's burn the Doctor!!!!

...and you Poison Dwarf. mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-07 07:37:43
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 6 2009, 05:14 PM) [snapback]586608[/snapback]
Evasive, and archly obtuse as ever. There is a difference between maintenance and recovery. Many professionals who deal with addicts do not consider Methadone prescription to be a valid treatment for addiction, it merely maintains it. From what I've seen and heard, I tend to agree. Whether a methadone addict is stable enough to be considered competent and capable of child care is a matter of judgement and as I said, risk management.

Mr. Edwards, I am experienced in addiction treatment and counselling and don't get my information selectively from the Media.

Methadone, like yourself, and unlike me, is far from perfect. I don't need some bloody left wing architrave to lecture to me.

You asked a well loaded question based on your misconceptions about Methadone. You have now demonstrated arch obtuseness by sneaking in the term 'methadone addict'. rolleyes.gif

My answers and comments, as ever, have been straight to the point.

Children have undoubtedly and frequently been raised admirably and happily by parents 'on' prescribed methadone.

I KNOW, AND HAVE KNOWN THEM!

Would you like an opinion on architraves? ph34r.gif

mortonjag 2009-03-07 07:42:54
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 6 2009, 11:45 PM) [snapback]586723[/snapback]
I'm with you there Col. All the way.

Try one off Princes Pier! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-07 07:47:17 I am Mortonjag, and I am here because God intended it.
mortonjag 2009-03-07 07:50:43
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 6 2009, 02:40 PM) [snapback]586548[/snapback]
Oh, third hand experience. Everyone has a political axe to grind MJ, you're just in denial.

DENIAL! I hate all politicians-especially that bearded eejit Surgin.

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 7 2009, 12:23 AM) [snapback]586747[/snapback]
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I'm a very happy person Honor. What leads you to believe otherwise?

You're the archetypal grumpy old crab! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-07 08:03:00 I sometimes think this wee massage board has been infested by bloody Commies, starting with that faux lefty Whacko the Tadger!

When Mrs T took over, the country was in a horrendous state. She did much right and much wrong like all political leaders.

Only in an area like Inverclyde is she almost universally disliked.

Effin Commie bastards the lot of yese! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-07 08:06:30
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 7 2009, 08:04 AM) [snapback]586797[/snapback]
I know I would. laugh.gif

Archie Travis is deid.
mortonjag 2009-03-07 08:09:15
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 7 2009, 08:05 AM) [snapback]586798[/snapback]
Former commie in my case Douglas.

...turned self employed grabbin' Tory.

It's the way of the world Peter. Clever little working class boys extol the virtues of socialism as a stepladder to capitalist wealth.

Only Edwards seems to remain in denial.
mortonjag 2009-03-07 08:10:55
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 7 2009, 08:06 AM) [snapback]586801[/snapback]
I am Peter. I am here because Douglas allows it. unsure.gif

I am Douglas. I am here because my heart's in the right place.
mortonjag 2009-03-07 08:12:25
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 7 2009, 08:07 AM) [snapback]586803[/snapback]
Then my thoughts are with the family at this time.

If I compose a dirge in Archie's memory, will Mouse Eat Mouse play it ?
mortonjag 2009-03-07 08:14:02
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 7 2009, 08:06 AM) [snapback]586802[/snapback]
It's definetly one of the factors - the lack in confidence through the squad at the time didn't help either.

The real reason was that the players were in rebellion. That's a FACT! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-07 08:25:37
QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Mar 6 2009, 09:59 PM) [snapback]586678[/snapback]
What are the four main areas, from a fans viewpoint, you like too see addressed in Scottish Football.

For example:

1. Safe Standing.
2. Cost of entrance to games, difference in pricing at grounds for adults and children etc.
3. League format including a pyramid set up.
4. How we develop top class players for the future.

Add any more you can think on.



The way things are going I'd be tempted to restructure the points system to encourage more attacking football. I can't think of much more in general terms. It's in a complete mess, and will remain so until a massive pruning has been achieved. It's CRAZY to pull another wee club in each time one collapses, and I'm sick of the mealy mouthed pandering to financial disasters.


I believe fans WILL shell out to be entertained in the same way as they resent paying for crap.

mortonjag 2009-03-07 08:52:24
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 7 2009, 08:17 AM) [snapback]586809[/snapback]
I'm neither self-employed or a Tory Douglas. rolleyes.gif

You're getting there Peter! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-07 08:58:21
QUOTE(piehutt @ Mar 7 2009, 08:34 AM) [snapback]586813[/snapback]
I am quite far removed from anything that social worker's have to deal with but I reckon in general... not in this case... they see so many bad cases and get a lot of abuse that they become immune to seeing kids in poor conditions.

As for this case... Eck is right... you can't keep blaming social workers for murderer's actions. Yes, they have a job to do but profilling a potential murderer after minimal contact is not one of them.

There's not exactly a queue of potential social workers at the door of every local authority in Britain, so don't see what good a big enquiry will do for social work in general.

People were evil before Social Work was ever invented. In that respect you and Bawheid are correct.

The problem is that in this particular case everybody is attempting to second guess the situation. It has NOT been proved that the Social Work Department was blameless, nor has the opposite been proven.

Bawheid should stop meddling-I think Shoogly has been giving him lessons.
mortonjag 2009-03-07 09:01:07
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 7 2009, 08:36 AM) [snapback]586814[/snapback]
It's not impossible if its done right Colkitto, and it's been done before.

But I'll not argue with you. Said it before and I'll say it again - we agree on way more than we disagree on, but my view on how to get there and the tactics we need differ from yours - which is OK. I just don't see how we can ever get there without taking the democratic majority with us. And much as it pains me to repeat it, and bores you to hear it again no doubt, the harsh facts are writ large.

The last time we had a vote on this, at a time when the Nationalist cause was at it's peak, only 63% of our people even turned up to vote, and of the ones who did, about half voted No.

We need to win those middle ground folks over to the cause and they will never be won by adopting "at any cost" tactics.

In my opinion.

TonInDublin

...and in particular they will shy clear of Claymore clashing 'English' bashing paranoia!
mortonjag 2009-03-10 07:05:13 More public money chucked away by Bawheid's daft wee fud of a 'Health Minister'.

'Inspectorates' are generally as cost efficient as a Puggy.

When will her chicanery end?


Czarina Nickerless the Fud.
mortonjag 2009-03-10 07:32:04
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Mar 8 2009, 01:58 PM) [snapback]587415[/snapback]
Is this guy the new mortonjag? rolleyes.gif

Anyhoo, I agree. We should beat this manky mob. Ill go for a comfortable 3-0.
Peter x2
Grady

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Mortonjag has been very busy performing restorative surgery on a lady's recess!


Will Sheep Lips continue to follow the Jag's advice or will he slip back to his old punt and hunt crap?

That is the imponderable.

Sheep Lips-I exhort you to continue in the spirit of the game, by attempting to score goals. To that end you must start LEAFY in favour of Superkev.

Listen to Jaggy and you shall be rewarded with a 2-1 victory! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-12 07:15:41
QUOTE(para @ Mar 11 2009, 10:53 PM) [snapback]589013[/snapback]
wheres jaggy

Busy reconstructing a lady's aperture!

Alistair will mention his longstanding respect for the Raes, and praise Shoogly to the high heavens, before talking about the ground improvements in which he's been involved (particularly the purchase of the St Mirren stand), and the new floodlights.

He'll make all the right noises about how Sheep Lips has steadied the ship, before announcing that he hopes to see a push for better things next season.

All the rest will be padding. He may even confess to using the same shaving gel as wee Nickerless.
mortonjag 2009-03-12 07:23:48


QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 10 2009, 10:24 AM) [snapback]588140[/snapback]
I have fonder memories of that poor sheep that drowned at Cappielow.

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I've been so busy-is the new Manager appointed yet?
mortonjag 2009-03-12 08:08:58
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Mar 7 2009, 06:13 PM) [snapback]587167[/snapback]
..take it up the arse unsure.gif



How much are you willing to pay Sweetie? wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-12 08:10:39 2-0 LEAFY and Spoonsy.
mortonjag 2009-03-13 08:03:00
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 13 2009, 08:01 AM) [snapback]589442[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-03-13 08:14:43
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Mar 9 2009, 10:11 PM) [snapback]588021[/snapback]
Wonder where MJ is now laugh.gif



I already told you that I'm reshaping a lady's aperture-it's coming on nicely:

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mortonjag 2009-03-14 08:55:56
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 13 2009, 08:42 AM) [snapback]589457[/snapback]
Fecking hell, I thought Barry Bucknell was deid. laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2009-03-14 09:13:30
QUOTE(Muz @ Mar 11 2009, 08:58 AM) [snapback]588611[/snapback]
Whatever Newton. You are possibly the most boring person in the universe. I refer to the fact his team are bottom of the league, seeing as I was at the game last night and sat 15 ft away from him, he didnt look very happy.

You, on the other hand, I guess you see everything from wherever the f*** you are?

Do me a favour and dont reply. It'll be 10 seconds of my life I wont get back.

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QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 12 2009, 10:40 AM) [snapback]589124[/snapback]
Gidday Muz,

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Once a jolly swagman, always a jolly swagman, as they say.

I wonder if Jim McInally wants my trafficked footballers yet ? ? ?

Ya flamin' galaaaaah ! ! !

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Off topic gentlemen!

Of course Black was delighted on Tuesday-he played for a point and he beat Sheep Lips in the joust. I'd have him at Cappielow tomorrow! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-14 09:17:20
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 14 2009, 08:51 AM) [snapback]589837[/snapback]
whats the difference between madeline mccan and madeline mccan jokes?

the jokes get old

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mortonjag 2009-03-14 09:21:17
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Mar 13 2009, 07:33 AM) [snapback]589436[/snapback]
Moronjag ? rolleyes.gif

You are a jobby.
mortonjag 2009-03-14 09:24:35
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Mar 13 2009, 11:43 AM) [snapback]589531[/snapback]
Am i allowed freedom of speech?

It was my opinion and i stand by it
If he comes out with opinions of games/players/Morton that are the opinions of somebody else then why post?
And as for the above quote.....Pish...

Are Morton flying out a programme for Newton Special delivery or will it be 2nd hand information given by someone who was at the game and actually bought a programme

You are entitled to voice your opinion.

Just remember you will be judged by it! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-14 09:31:33 I suggest that those statistics merely demonstrate that marriage is fucked.


Is that a bad thing?
mortonjag 2009-03-14 09:33:45
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 14 2009, 09:19 AM) [snapback]589843[/snapback]
You seem to be using that face quite a lot these days .... huh.gif

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mortonjag 2009-03-14 09:34:59
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 14 2009, 09:21 AM) [snapback]589845[/snapback]
I think not. wink.gif

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mortonjag 2009-03-14 09:42:45 HMM-seems we haven't really got an answer to the original question.

The forum is owned by an official at Greenock Morton.

That is a fact! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-14 09:50:27 Will Brown become Black today?

Will one point seem FAR more attractive than gambling for three?

Most importantly will Sheep Lips remain committed to his commendable policy of trying to score goals, or will the old caution creep back in?

I'd drop Superkev to the bench and start LEAFY. I reckon that could see us up by two at half time! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-14 09:55:05
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 13 2009, 11:54 PM) [snapback]589800[/snapback]
what a load of f***ing s***e. EVERYc*** on it will experience a wee boost in their career. we pay enough tax and there are enough resources in the world to ensure that s***e like this shouldn't need to happen. the whole world money gig is f***ed. sort that out and we wont have to see lenny henry etc telling us how good they are and how we should "dig deep". my work came out with "wear your pyjamas for a pound or don't wear them and pay £2" . how about this, "f*** up and let me get on with my work you f***ing limelight grabbing twats"

being charitable is a noble and worthwhile trait, being charitable to perv at girls aloud and take that once a year f***ing stinks.

how much does it raise anyway? about a half an air carrier worth if they're lucky?

shave a few bob off the fatcat salaries, put it to good use and the rest of us can live off our s***ey wages secure in the knowledge that we have big grey boats bullying c***s with "our" flag on them.

as some of the old crowd on here say when they're being all posh - for shame

Goodwin! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-14 10:15:41
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 14 2009, 10:06 AM) [snapback]589860[/snapback]
Predictable, if nothing else. smile.gif

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mortonjag 2009-03-14 10:18:45
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 7 2009, 01:50 PM) [snapback]586887[/snapback]
some details mj?

Apologies to those who have expressed interest. I promised to get some foties on here and will before the weekend's out.
mortonjag 2009-03-14 10:21:28
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 14 2009, 09:58 AM) [snapback]589856[/snapback]
Test Dead

Only 33, which makes it all the more shocking.

RIP

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mortonjag 2009-03-14 10:23:04 2000 posts on a sham sport-how sad! huh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-14 10:37:40
QUOTE(crgadams @ Mar 14 2009, 10:33 AM) [snapback]589869[/snapback]
Me thinks I might have had a few too many lubrications yesterday!!

No need to apologise. Bawheid's a bawbag and Spurtle's his court jester.
mortonjag 2009-03-14 10:40:16
QUOTE(edd @ Mar 14 2009, 10:30 AM) [snapback]589868[/snapback]
terracing, alcohol and low prices ... sounds like polish football is well behind the times, really.

things were better in those days sad.gif

Indeed they were. Today's Scottish foorball is a mere shadow of its former self-and there's no polish to be seen at Cappielow.
mortonjag 2009-03-14 10:42:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 14 2009, 10:39 AM) [snapback]589872[/snapback]

May I be first to call you a boring old fart?

It will save the children from coming in their short pants! laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-14 10:44:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 14 2009, 10:39 AM) [snapback]589873[/snapback]

Do you remember the Polaris jokes Newt?

Have you heard about the new Polaris knickers? One Yank and they're down.

Have you heard about the new Polaris shoe? An old sole with a Yank upper.
mortonjag 2009-03-14 10:51:17
QUOTE(Malt @ Mar 14 2009, 10:49 AM) [snapback]589879[/snapback]
Would have Russell on for Kev and Wake on for Grady.

I think Grady's worth starting-he's definitely got a positive influence and links very well, but he seems to run out of steam by half time.
mortonjag 2009-03-14 12:07:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 14 2009, 10:44 AM) [snapback]589877[/snapback]
As long as Colkitto is happy.

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Claymore Cock's pathologically happy!
mortonjag 2009-03-14 12:09:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 14 2009, 11:09 AM) [snapback]589885[/snapback]

Those children were well educated in cock management.
mortonjag 2009-03-14 12:11:14
QUOTE(Loveless @ Mar 14 2009, 11:21 AM) [snapback]589889[/snapback]
I don't like comic relief because they give money to pro-abortion charities - which is a shame because they also clearly do a lot of good.

As for last night, only saw a bit of it, but Harry Hill was hilarious and the Saturdays were really attractive.

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mortonjag 2009-03-14 12:13:36
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 14 2009, 10:53 AM) [snapback]589881[/snapback]
In the midst of your piss poor fishing trip, need I remind you that I only bumped this thread because a man has died.

Despite your supposed intelligence, you really can be an ignorant little man sometimes.

I beg your pardon!

I said nothing detrimental. I'm sure all of our thoughts are with the family.
mortonjag 2009-03-14 12:16:15
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 14 2009, 12:00 PM) [snapback]589904[/snapback]
Charlie's wit and stories made me laugh, but those of Newton never do. cool.gif

That's because you're a jobby.
mortonjag 2009-03-14 12:20:50
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 14 2009, 10:55 AM) [snapback]589883[/snapback]
Would it not be best, in that case, to bring Grady on later in the match when the opposition are knackered and, in theory, vulnerable at the back?

Six and half a dozen perhaps. I'd like him to start because he gets us going, and I see the combination with Spoonsy and LEAFY as genuinely capable of notching two by half time. Then bring on big Wakey to hassle a tiring Clyde defence.
mortonjag 2009-03-14 12:30:07
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Mar 13 2009, 10:30 PM) [snapback]589776[/snapback]
Some great suggestions but...

It's a serious matter and not one I think I could make fun of.

If it had been my daughter he was exposing himself to I wouldn't be too happy he's still roaming about the streets, and football pitches in front of kids.

My personal view is that he 'got off' lightly. mad.gif

Great thread though. laugh.gif

this!
mortonjag 2009-03-14 12:40:15
QUOTE(Loveless @ Mar 14 2009, 12:14 PM) [snapback]589911[/snapback]
I'm not sure what part of that you find funny.

I hope it's the fact I put "pro-abortion" and "charities" in such close proximity!

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mortonjag 2009-03-14 12:53:07
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 14 2009, 12:51 PM) [snapback]589924[/snapback]
Oh dear. It seems I've upset someone. laugh.gif

I like jobbies.
mortonjag 2009-03-14 12:59:18
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Mar 11 2009, 12:43 PM) [snapback]588701[/snapback]
The original bugler(?) that I heard from the late 70's used to give one blast in the game, usually when the game needed it most. It went something like do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-dooooo and I think it was a fella called Danny Goodwin who was unmasked as the Bugler, correct me if I'm wrong. Not sure what happened after '79 as I moved to London then. I walked in the house one day after the game and gave an impromptu rendition of the bugle call and that started our dog howling like a wolf! Worked every time with her, anyone care to have a stab at explaining that?

Correct, and his timing was usually impeccable!

QUOTE(Harper McGhee @ Mar 11 2009, 10:10 PM) [snapback]588981[/snapback]
Haven't heard the Bugler since the heady days of the Texaco Cup in the early 70's. Usually heard only when we got a corner and would be followed by a huge roar and thumping of feet in the stand. Really lifted the spirits especially if we were up against it. Mon e Bugler Mon e Ton!

Especially when a passing train sounded its horn at the same time. Happy days!
mortonjag 2009-03-14 13:01:06
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 14 2009, 12:56 PM) [snapback]589927[/snapback]
Nearly 30,000 posts on a 'sham football board'? How sad huh.gif

You're a jobby too!
mortonjag 2009-03-14 13:26:16
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 14 2009, 01:20 PM) [snapback]589933[/snapback]
He just wants to sniff the seat!

Mrs Ton's been on Simply's bike? huh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-14 13:27:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 14 2009, 01:20 PM) [snapback]589932[/snapback]
You like me? happy.gif

I like jobbies and Poison Dwarves provided they don't have sheep lips.
mortonjag 2009-03-15 08:53:51
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Mar 15 2009, 01:02 AM) [snapback]590167[/snapback]
Well done MJ, those who hid behind their user names to have an undeserved go at you have still to acknowledge your righteousness.

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Thank you Willy Man.

Alistair won't say anything which might rock the good ship Shoogly! All things come to those who wait!

Indeed, he's not even hinted at his purchase of the Midden's stand, nor the source of JG's pocket money, let alone the other wee subs here and there.

What's most interesting is that he's no longer claiming only to be on the Board 'in an advisory capacity'.

If you read between the lines he says far more than at first glance.

'As board members we are temporary custodians of the club' he states. Well Shoogly's 77 and AD's 54-young enough to be his son (perish the thought! unsure.gif), so time is on his side.

He concludes with an insightful resume of the current state of Scottish football mentioning 'daft tinkering by hopeless bureaucrats', while stating that he believes we'll be playing at the top level 'sooner rather than later'.

I believe AD is a good thing for Greenock Morton. I do not suspect an underhand agenda. Those who have 'rubbished him' should read Arthur's excellent article in the same programme. If we are ever to regain our rightful place in Scottish football, we need a man like Alistair Donald.

My old friend the Shooglemeister has done his bit. It's now time to move forward.

mortonjag 2009-03-15 09:09:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 15 2009, 08:59 AM) [snapback]590196[/snapback]
Gidday MJ,

If old Sugar Rae is only 77 he must have been a child prodigy, as he was in the same class as my aunt.

And she would have turned 80 last year.

Shoogly was born on the 14th of June 1931. How many times was your Auntie 'kept back'? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-15 09:20:39 I enjoyed my afternoon. The result never seemed in doubt from early on, and in honesty Clyde looked very poor indeed.

I think we've turned the corner. It seems that the players are now motivated by the future and able to ignore that dreadful man mangager who will be offski come the summer.

HAPPY DAYS! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-15 09:22:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 15 2009, 09:12 AM) [snapback]590199[/snapback]
Often enough to teach WDE's mother in Port Glasgow.

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Are you disputing Shoogly's date of birth? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-15 09:41:56
QUOTE(Andre Boe @ Mar 15 2009, 04:12 AM) [snapback]590185[/snapback]
Greacen is everything I would want in a Morton player and captain. I love the fact the utter f*nn**s in the Shed who were giving him dog's abuse last season have mysteriously lost their voices this season.

The big man took abuse last season from some doughballs in the hospitality and reacted in the best possible way; looked up and signalled that he was playing for the jersey no matter what they opined.

Cannot fault the big man at all.....

...but remember, all the knowledgable doughballs told us last season- it's Harding that's the good player with a poor partner!!!!!!

Mortonjag=doughball

In which case Andre Boe=tripe and onions! dry.gif

I have stated often that Harding and Stu could never gel.

I still believe that in purely technical terms, Hardy is a more gifted footballer. His time will come.

NOW-tripe and onions, I challenge you to produce one solitary post in which I have criticised Stu's commitment or ability.

I was regularly sickened in the last few seasons by the seemingly endless torrent of abuse for both players who constantly had to cope with a weak midfield in front of them and our lack of proper full backs.

SO-tripe and onions-get your fucking targets right before calling folk doughballs! mad.gif dry.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-15 09:47:03
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Mar 14 2009, 10:48 PM) [snapback]590125[/snapback]
Wouldn't really surprise me, but it seems to be the only thing he did all day that the fans noticed.

Don't talk shite son! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-15 09:54:29 When you hear players talking about penalties it's amazing the different viewpoints you get. Some guys claim they're happy enough to blast the ball hard and low and just hope the keeper doesn't block it.

I thought Masty's spot kick was 'top drawer'. I do not believe any goalkeeper in the world could have got to that.

Incidentally, I also thought he was pretty effective in midfield yesterday.

Well done.
mortonjag 2009-03-15 09:57:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 14 2009, 11:10 PM) [snapback]590130[/snapback]
Well, I imagine that Black's delight on Tuesday turned to sheer joy this afternoon.

And he'll be expecting a miracle next Saturday.

Black Magic?
mortonjag 2009-03-15 10:09:23

QUOTE(Loveless @ Mar 14 2009, 04:25 PM) [snapback]590007[/snapback]
I'm an active pro-life campaigner - when I was at Glasgow University I was one of the founding members of their only pro-life group ALIVE (A Life IS Valuable for Everyone). Obviously I left the group when I graduated, at which time the vast majority of the members were female, and quite a few were athiests.

In my humble opinion, and based on many, many years experience of dealing with real life 'I want an abortion' issues, I'm gob smacked at the ignorant arrogance of such people.

I hasten to add that I firmly oppose abortion as an alternative to contraception. In many cases, however, it has to be perceived as 'the lesser of two evils'.

I'm certain that only a religious fanatic, or intellectual turnip would imagine otherwise.
mortonjag 2009-03-15 10:19:15
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 8 2009, 08:10 PM) [snapback]587578[/snapback]
....I would have not left uni if she was!

had been. mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-15 10:30:43 McGuffie and Jenkins despise Sheep Lips with a passion. I definitely heard Ryan shout something and he didn't look too happy either!

The players seem united in seeing out this horrible season credibly in the certainty that a new Manager will be installed next time. I guess that helps Sheep Lips' CV, so everybody can rejoice. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-15 10:35:40
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 15 2009, 10:29 AM) [snapback]590219[/snapback]
I just got married so ma burd could get a visa to live here.

That was the name of one of my schoolteachers-Ma Bird. Mrs Bird's son Stewart (Chookie) was a pupil, hence her title.
mortonjag 2009-03-15 10:37:36
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Mar 12 2009, 04:59 PM) [snapback]589273[/snapback]
He puts the hours in, too - many a night he's been out standing in his own field....... laugh.gif

Are you calling the groundsman a coo?
mortonjag 2009-03-15 11:32:22
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 15 2009, 10:49 AM) [snapback]590227[/snapback]
You? I think you mean has been wink.gif

And while I'm here

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2009-03-15 11:37:15
QUOTE(wanderton @ Mar 15 2009, 11:33 AM) [snapback]590250[/snapback]
Just read the the alister donald article what a load of over hyped pish,whoever sent the email from the club urging people to buy a programme for this article should be done by the trade description act!! I thought the cappie the cat page more interesting..

Would you care to post an informative analysis of the article demonstrating why you regard it as such.

The Cappie the Cat page does interest weans-that's what it's for! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-15 11:40:02
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 15 2009, 11:11 AM) [snapback]590237[/snapback]
Harding may be injured - but when he does get fit, there's no way (on current form) that he'll be able to dislodge any of the current back line - which these days is three from Greacen, Walker, McManus and Shimmin.

I wasn't talking to you son-though I happen to agree! (with the rider in bold)!
mortonjag 2009-03-15 11:41:05
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 15 2009, 11:11 AM) [snapback]590238[/snapback]
He's still a w*nker though.

98% are wankers.

2% are liars!
mortonjag 2009-03-15 11:43:01
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 15 2009, 11:18 AM) [snapback]590242[/snapback]
Masterton is a set-piece 'specialist', but we knew that before yesterday. Other than his excellent free kicks/corners/penalty, I don't think contributed much else - he lost possession a little too often for my liking yesterday, but he still put in a better shift than McGuffie who, again, was just not at the races.

...and didn't set up Jenks perfectly for the first goal! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-15 11:46:37
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 15 2009, 10:38 AM) [snapback]590225[/snapback]
If Irons gets Morton to a top 4 finish in his first full season in charge, that has to be looked upon as a huge success.

I reckon he will be rewarded with at least another season in charge for that success. And deservedly so !

He'll be gone at the end of the season.

QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 15 2009, 11:16 AM) [snapback]590240[/snapback]
He clearly isn't if he's referring to McGuffie.
Passing off opinion as fact again? That's sooo unlike you. rolleyes.gif


No.
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 15 2009, 11:27 AM) [snapback]590246[/snapback]
Despite MJ's best efforts to make controversy, this happens all the time in football. No big deal.

Don't be a plank Ratarse! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-15 12:37:41
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 15 2009, 11:07 AM) [snapback]590232[/snapback]
Whatever happened to credit when it's due? Irons set up the team in such a way that rendered Clyde's 'tactics' (I use that term in a very loose way) completely useless and set up the boys up for a comfortable win.

I'm not conscious of having criticised anybody for yesterday's performance! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-15 12:39:20
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 15 2009, 12:09 PM) [snapback]590264[/snapback]
One single positive contribution doesn't mean he had a good game.

It DOES mean he was at the races though! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-15 12:41:19
QUOTE(wanderton @ Mar 15 2009, 11:45 AM) [snapback]590258[/snapback]
p***k!!!!

Enough of that-my grandchildren are here today! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-15 13:22:28 Must say I'm quite looking forward to watching this on the Telly as I don't waste money on Sky, Setanta etc!

I'm sure that many many liars on this forum will be secretly hoping for one or another to win. Witness the bias and indoctrination on the recent 'Greenock-Celtic town?' thread.

It's so easy to say FTOF when you know in your heart that you're not entirely neutral!

Mortonjag is hoping for a Rangers victory because his partner ain't nothin' but a H** dog!

Let's have some honesty folks!

OH-and before I go,


FTOF
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mortonjag 2009-03-15 13:38:19
QUOTE(standman @ Mar 11 2009, 09:07 PM) [snapback]588924[/snapback]
I find it incredible that the Kilmacolm to Glasgow service stopped in 1983.

Plus, it's amazing that there's no sign of the track to the right of the Pullman - it's all houses now.

Was there talk of the diesel line reopening a few years ago ? I vaguely remember reading this in the Telegraph ?

When I was in my teens we went to Paisley or Greenock by steam train on the Glasgow St. Enoch to Princes Pier Line.

I can remember on still and balmy summer evenings in Kilmacolm, you could hear the sound of the steam engines pulling away from Bridge of Weir station. Then those horrible diesels arrived and my interest in Choo Choos waned.
mortonjag 2009-03-15 13:47:35
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 15 2009, 01:34 PM) [snapback]590282[/snapback]
When we signed McManus most people thought it was a decent acquisition. In pre season he looked good and seemed to have all the attributes to be team captain. Then came the first quarter of the season with diabolical performances and a sending off.

Its credit to the man that he has turned it round and he has used the injury to Shimmin to make it difficult for Irons to drop him.

He is a great communicator and talks players through the game a lot. Amongst the gems I picked up yesterday were

talking to the midfield in general - "Get a f**king tackle in there"

and to McGuffie - "Guff, get that ball moved quicker!"

I think he has turned his form round big time and is due a fair bit of credit.



A wee birdie told me that Allan has been so disgusted by Sheep Lips that he told Shoogly he wanted away at the end of the season.

I suspect there may now be a future for him at Cappielow. He's been doing a lot of work with the youngsters, and indeed his form, confidence, and commitment seem to have had a fillip. Still liable to the occasional concentration lapse mind you!
mortonjag 2009-03-15 13:50:31
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 15 2009, 01:41 PM) [snapback]590287[/snapback]
On Tuesday we equalled our points total of last season with 8 games still to go. Yesterday (obviously) we surpassed it. We currently have a positive GD of 2

Last season we finished with 37 points and a goal difference of -17

Well done to all concerned.

Until lately the football has been utter crap and reflected by dropping crowds. I believe we've turned the corner.

Fresh managerial faces next season and a push for SPL 2 should get the bodies back in!
mortonjag 2009-03-19 07:25:22 I'm sure Sheep Lips will be delighted by the uninformed sycophancy, though he may be disappointed in the paucity of favourable opinions.

His contract expires at the end of the season when Mr Rae will politely show him the door. That is why the squad, under the guidance of Messrs. Grady and McManus is beginning to pull its weight.

I bear Mr Irons no ill will. He cannot help being a 'jobby'.
mortonjag 2009-03-19 07:26:37
QUOTE(wanderton @ Mar 18 2009, 08:21 PM) [snapback]591604[/snapback]
Just watched the under 17s play partick at the battery in a friendly was a decent game with morton winning 2 1.

Was there any swearing? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-19 07:30:44
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 16 2009, 12:38 PM) [snapback]590593[/snapback]
Shouldn't that be "if she were" - i.e. the subjunctive case?


NO it shouldn't! Go back and read the whole thread. dry.gif
QUOTE(Thrax @ Mar 16 2009, 12:39 PM) [snapback]590594[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif

I'm glad you spotted his mistake in assuming that my quotation from PD was otherwise! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-20 06:59:51 The players see light at the end of the tunnel and are attempting to attract a really nice man as Manager next season.
For that reason I predict a relatively comfortable 2-0 victory. happy.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-20 07:16:34
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 19 2009, 07:31 AM) [snapback]591711[/snapback]
How about some consistency, MJ ?

You posted that you liked jobbies last week.

I do indeed!

QUOTE(irnbru @ Mar 19 2009, 08:45 AM) [snapback]591719[/snapback]
I dont think we'd be any better off under Grady and McManus, in fact I'd rather Irons kept his job than taking a chance with these two.

Anyway - why are you supporting them when you've been banging on about the need for an experienced manager for the last season?

I am merely stating what I've heard from behind the scenes.

QUOTE(irnbru @ Mar 19 2009, 09:13 AM) [snapback]591725[/snapback]
Personally I think Irons will have has contract renewed and this is just MJs intense dislike of Irons clouding reality. I'm probably with the majority of Morton fans in saying that a new contract is deserved (though only just).

....and with absolutely zero % of those who will make the decision. (INFORMED decison) rolleyes.gif


QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Mar 19 2009, 10:46 AM) [snapback]591750[/snapback]
Would you care to say what lies behind your personal dislike for Davie Irons?

I have no personal truck with Sheep Lips. laugh.gif

QUOTE(LargsTON @ Mar 19 2009, 03:52 PM) [snapback]591847[/snapback]
No way will Irons be sacked this summer. Like you, I'd be shocked. dry.gif

Correct. His contract will simply expire and he'll be allowed to walk.

QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 19 2009, 04:56 PM) [snapback]591871[/snapback]
MJ: you are indeed becoming tedious with your "sheep lips" jibe and your incessant running down of DI. Back your opinion up with some justification or just haud your wheesht.

It's very sad when a man of your purported intelligence resorts to skim reading occasional posts before launching into personal attacks.

Back up what you said or issue Mortonjag with an unreserved apology. Even Bawheid's had to apologise in the last twenty four hours for talking oot his erse about Wallace Mercer, so you'll be in good company!
mortonjag 2009-03-20 07:20:01
QUOTE(dazed @ Mar 18 2009, 10:32 AM) [snapback]591407[/snapback]
I regret I will not be bidding, I would suggest you retain for your personal use.

I have more than I can ever use. Would you like a free sample?
mortonjag 2009-03-20 07:24:00
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 19 2009, 09:38 PM) [snapback]591964[/snapback]
after the tele story on this site we are careful. 

In case Tontastic gets his equipment removed!

OUCH! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-22 13:46:49
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 20 2009, 08:47 AM) [snapback]592060[/snapback]
Eh? I think constantly referring to DI as "Sheeplips" could be construed as a personal attack. I was merely pointing out that your posts are becoming extremely tedious. You don't like DI, you don't like Alex Salmond, you don't like Nicola Sturgeon. OK, we get it. Is that enough back up information for you?

Jeezo, if you're an example of what happens to people when they retire, I think i'll just work till I drop.

laugh.gif Power to your elbow.

Sheep have beautiful lips as I've stated previously.

QUOTE(pgmsc @ Mar 20 2009, 09:20 AM) [snapback]592068[/snapback]
MJ the biggest critic of the inner sanctum now claims to have inside knowledge.

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mortonjag 2009-03-22 13:49:43 I was going to head up to Dingwall but my brother called off. Seems we were pretty crap, though the draw would have softened the blow for the long journey home.

LEAFY saved Irons bacon! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-22 13:58:47
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 22 2009, 09:06 AM) [snapback]592728[/snapback]
f*** me it was actually true. Call my cynical but i thought the whole thing was a publicity stunt.



QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 22 2009, 11:03 AM) [snapback]592747[/snapback]
Quite a bit of snobbery on show here.

She had a terrible upbringing and was poorly educated and yet despite that and no having obvious talent she still managed to become a millionaire. Fair play to her I say.

If that irritates you then don't blame her, blame those who buy the magazines and watch the TV shows that turned her in to what she became. She just milked that and got out of it what she could. Fair play to her.

And while I can't claim to have any particular feelings of sadness at her death I find some of the posts above, particularly the one with the fireworks, a bit sad.



QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 22 2009, 01:02 PM) [snapback]592809[/snapback]
That's an outrageous thing to write.


She's pan breid and we still can't stop talking about her. She'll be laughing all the way to the Bank of Hell! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-22 14:02:25
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 20 2009, 10:40 AM) [snapback]592082[/snapback]
Aye, and F anny is a woman's name but you've censored that. wink.gif

FANNY from Sc***horpe!
mortonjag 2009-03-22 14:04:52
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 22 2009, 01:54 PM) [snapback]592834[/snapback]
Hope you're not suggesting that Irons was going to be sacked if we lost yesterday ... blink.gif

Don't be ridiculous-he's been taking my advice recently-I miss ONE game and he's back to his old tricks.

Well done to

LEAFY
mortonjag 2009-03-22 14:09:52
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Mar 22 2009, 01:18 PM) [snapback]592817[/snapback]
God forbid, does that mean you and Gerry will have to drink Irn Bru instead of your usual swally?

I've been waiting for you to crawl back out of your kennel. Did you read AD's wee bit in the programme? He was very modest-don't you think. Seems you know fuck (Mc) all! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-22 14:12:43 As I stated before the season started we'll end up fifth. I commented that we'd be hard to beat and would find it equally hard to score goals. When the new Manager starts in the summer we can start to look for some decent football.
mortonjag 2009-03-22 14:16:08
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 22 2009, 02:13 PM) [snapback]592846[/snapback]
Surely you can accept though that if someone who had lost a sister, mother or daughter to cervical cancer were to read these 'jokes' then they could be upset and/or offended by it? And if so, that's got nothing to do with 'political correctness'.

I think there's a huge difference between sharing a private joke with people you know and posting it on a public forum.

At the very least they should be posted on the 'Jesse Ventura' forum and not here. Just my opinion.

My old Uncle Jimmy died of cancer of the testicle.

From now on I shall report every poster who uses the word 'ball'! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-22 14:17:26
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 22 2009, 02:07 PM) [snapback]592843[/snapback]
I've not had any complaints, but i hardly think thats a question you should be asking me on a football forum.

Is it OK if I call you a jobby-I'm a bit bored.
mortonjag 2009-03-22 14:19:25
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 22 2009, 02:17 PM) [snapback]592850[/snapback]
Don't think that's a very fair or accurate analogy, but I know you're only mischief making you old devil. laugh.gif

My old Uncle Jimmy was buried along with his analog watch. You will soon be warned by the Mods. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-22 14:20:57 I thought only one goes up! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-22 14:26:24 There was a young woman called Goody
Who was shagged 10 k times in the nudie
She'd do it for tuppence
She's had her come uppance
And now hungry worms can have food-eh! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-22 14:27:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 22 2009, 02:25 PM) [snapback]592858[/snapback]
Thats more than acceptable. smile.gif

TY.

You're a jobby!
mortonjag 2009-03-22 14:29:02
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 22 2009, 02:26 PM) [snapback]592860[/snapback]
Im still raging about that. Bought a programme for the first time in about 10 years. What a load of mince.

laugh.gif

I thought he'd have said a little more. He's VERY patient with the old Shooglemeister you know! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-22 14:30:49
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 22 2009, 02:24 PM) [snapback]592856[/snapback]
Which I why I said you should differentiate between jokes told or shared among people you know, and posting them on a public forum where anyone can read them.

In my opinion the' Jesse Ventura' forum was created exactly for this kind of thing.

It has been done-

Just for you! wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-22 17:41:10
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Mar 22 2009, 02:38 PM) [snapback]592870[/snapback]
I see them Fritzl kids are in a helluva dilemna this w/end - they can't think what to get their sister for Mothers Day.

Not so many goodies around mind you!
mortonjag 2009-03-22 17:45:28
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 22 2009, 03:25 PM) [snapback]592878[/snapback]
It's a straightforward question of supply and demand. Like everything else our media is consumer driven.

People buy 'celebrity' magazines, if they didn't like the content, they'd stay on the shelves. How else do you think they can pay ridiculous sums for photo 'exclusives'?

BBC News ratings has to compete with Sky News, so they too have to dumb down and report celebrity trivia as 'news'. Again, if people didn't want 'Celebrity' trivia reported in their news programmes they'd stop watching.

Those that attack people like Goody who exploit that are missing the point. They're hitting out at the symptom instead of the cause. She was only supplying a demand that we ourselves created.



QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Mar 22 2009, 05:34 PM) [snapback]592907[/snapback]
The whole thing was about as dignified as Charles Kennedy with his head stuck in the mini-bar. I can't see how turning cancer into a publicity success can really be seen as anything other than being utterly distasteful, at best.

What's even worse is the folk that actually pretend that they care, even though they were the same people that villified her before she became ill. Hypocritical tossers, the lot of them.


Exactly-I believe she was a shit and that the world will be a better place without her. I wonder if McArthur et al would also have shed crocodile tears over Hitler.

Something tells me that he's already saving up for a donation to the Free Fritzl campaign! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-22 17:57:13
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 22 2009, 05:38 PM) [snapback]592909[/snapback]
A notice writ large on the front of George Square Baptist Church reads ' Atheists Day April 1 '. That's not very nice now is it? laugh.gif

Why?
mortonjag 2009-03-22 18:00:06
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 22 2009, 05:08 PM) [snapback]592900[/snapback]
Or Toby could have PM'd Donga saying thanks? what did you expect, Toby and Donga having a four page conversation about him giving him tickets?.

I'm glad Toby got free tickets, but i dont really think he should be congratulated for not criticising the club, when he never mentioned the club once in his post. Infact the thing that has been discussed on this thread was actually about the club, but if you only came on the Morton forum to butter up Toby's arse then you're in the wrong place.

Has somebody been misbehaving again? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-22 18:01:18
QUOTE(tontastic @ Mar 22 2009, 12:55 AM) [snapback]592673[/snapback]
Sorry, didn't make the trip north....

... and yes it does look like there is a Tontastic imposter on p&b ...

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mortonjag 2009-03-22 18:02:42
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Mar 22 2009, 05:50 PM) [snapback]592914[/snapback]
What relevance is the league position in the first quarter of a season ? Call me crazy, but I tend to care more about where we FINISH the season, and we're going to be very safe. Certainly not bottom of the entire league structure.

You're crazy!
mortonjag 2009-03-22 18:15:56
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Mar 22 2009, 06:09 PM) [snapback]592922[/snapback]
Has this thread decended into The Goodies v The Baddies unsure.gif

She was no Goody two screws anyway!
mortonjag 2009-03-22 18:19:12
QUOTE(Yoda @ Mar 22 2009, 02:03 PM) [snapback]592839[/snapback]
I'm with Barbarossa on this one, if they have the stupidity to break in to our house and I happened to be in the position to stop them with or without force then I would.

When our house was broken into last year, instead of entering the property, I waited outside until the police arrived just in case the person was still in there, as he'd burst the bottom half of the door he'd have had to come out head first and would have met my stiletto heel on his exit.......

It's our home and unless I invite someone in, I will decide when and how they leave!!

up?
mortonjag 2009-03-22 18:22:57 Mr Donald will soon be in charge.
mortonjag 2009-03-22 18:29:07
QUOTE(axeman @ Mar 22 2009, 06:21 PM) [snapback]592929[/snapback]
I can see where AT's coming from with this as the start to the league campaign obviously impacts on the fair weather fan. There will be more coming through the gates after a good start to the season than there will be coming back after we've managed to start making progress, in my opinion.

Having a bad start was a problem Billy Stark suffered from in his time here, as well as the well documented stuff going on behind the scenes. We went on a good run eventually in the two seasons he finished, but the damage was done as far as challenging was concerned.

Cawston was 100% correct when he said our pre-season was mental, as it left us with more injuries & walking wounded than a tune-up for the season ever should. Has that lesson been learned ?

My major question of Davie Irons is that he seems to allow his team to slip back into a rut, and it takes a major intervention like the ultimatum before the Clyde game or the dressing room bust-up at Firhill, for him to change his ideas, team & tactics. Again I ask has he learned from that ?

Personally I don't think it's healthy for the club to need to take such a radical course of action every time we hit a slump during a season. You would think that Irons would see that there is a need for change without being backed into a corner first.

Sometimes he gives the impression too that he has certain favourites in the team, who regardless of form he will always try to stick with or have them returned to the side at the first opportunity. Others it seems that it would take a major event to get them back in the side on a regular basis, however much picking them would be justified.

So for me the jury is still out. Have we done better than last season ? Yes

Have we done as good as we could have ? No

If he has learned the lessons from this season & it will make him a better manager & us a better team then that would be great. I for one would be delighted with that.

If he doesn't appear to have learned from that then maybe his position will be in doubt. Either way it will certainly make for an interesting close season this year.

I agree with your wisdom and ask one simple question-If leopards can't change their spots, can sheep change their lips?
mortonjag 2009-03-22 18:30:46
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Mar 22 2009, 06:11 PM) [snapback]592923[/snapback]
laugh.gif

Heavenly intervention, and if you include the north church across the street it seems the demise is well on its way. laugh.gif

Why is it only the Hun churches that are shutting? Are the Tims subsidised? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-22 18:32:20
QUOTE(axeman @ Mar 22 2009, 06:30 PM) [snapback]592935[/snapback]
That's not baaaaaad wink.gif biggrin.gif

I still believe he'll be shorn the door at the end of the season! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-22 18:34:08
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 22 2009, 06:31 PM) [snapback]592936[/snapback]
Still extremely unlikely that all five of the matches will go our way. wink.gif

If we win all of our remaining matches Mortonjag shall personally kiss Mr Irons on the botty.
mortonjag 2009-03-22 18:35:54
QUOTE(axeman @ Mar 22 2009, 06:33 PM) [snapback]592940[/snapback]
Maybe a job at Woolverhampton beckons ?

Wolves in sheep's lips?
mortonjag 2009-03-22 18:36:49
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 22 2009, 06:32 PM) [snapback]592937[/snapback]
Source?

Secret! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-22 18:37:53
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 22 2009, 06:36 PM) [snapback]592945[/snapback]
The last time I looked the Britannia Halls were still open for business.

That does not answer my question!
mortonjag 2009-03-22 18:39:35
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 21 2009, 08:08 AM) [snapback]592358[/snapback]
Having looked again, the photo of our house is very recent. We only bought our gazebo last May so it's at worst May 2008.

My greyhound can beat it any day. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-22 18:41:03
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 22 2009, 06:39 PM) [snapback]592950[/snapback]
I hope not. Even worse would be a nightclub. Or maybe a furniture saleroom. Fair play if you cannae respect God but at least respect the architecture. cool.gif

........and above all the Cardinal.
mortonjag 2009-03-22 18:42:09
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 22 2009, 06:36 PM) [snapback]592944[/snapback]
Bookmarked. tongue.gif

...on the centre spot (aka anus)!
mortonjag 2009-03-22 18:42:35
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 22 2009, 06:37 PM) [snapback]592947[/snapback]
There's a surprise... rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2009-03-22 18:44:37
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 22 2009, 06:40 PM) [snapback]592951[/snapback]
Ask Alastair Donald. He's a H** isn't he? laugh.gif

He is a Rangers fan who is developing an increasing warmth for his local team.

God is on our side Mr Edwards. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-22 18:45:59
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 22 2009, 06:43 PM) [snapback]592957[/snapback]
I'll bet McArthur can beat your greyhound. In fact I could too. Bring it round to my house and I'll be gald to beat it. biggrin.gif

It will chew your stick to smithereens Mr Edwards! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-22 18:48:46
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 22 2009, 06:46 PM) [snapback]592960[/snapback]
I'll have to find another side then. tongue.gif

Do not look a gift horse in the mouth or it may come back to bite you in the bum! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-22 18:50:08
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 22 2009, 06:48 PM) [snapback]592963[/snapback]
Ask yourself: What was the building designed for?

Five hundred guineas?
mortonjag 2009-03-22 19:06:06
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Mar 22 2009, 07:03 PM) [snapback]592968[/snapback]
Is Irons even out of contract at the end of the season?

If not, he's definitely going nowhere.
If yes, it should be renewed immediately. Or has DDFR completely lost the plot?

AYE

NO

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mortonjag 2009-03-22 19:09:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 22 2009, 06:50 PM) [snapback]592965[/snapback]
laugh.gif You watch out yourself, your avatar looks more likely to bite you in the bum. tongue.gif

She knows MUCH better! laugh.gif

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 22 2009, 06:52 PM) [snapback]592966[/snapback]
Such squalid pecuniary concerns. Mr Donald's influence must be rubbing off. laugh.gif

It is indeed-even Shoogly is reaping the benefit! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 22 2009, 07:03 PM) [snapback]592969[/snapback]
They are all too frightened of the pope/divine intervention/eternal damnation/the local priest in roughly that order not to go on a Sunday and throw their contribution into the pot.

You appear to be suggesting that Tims are cowards! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-22 19:10:10
QUOTE(Davie @ Mar 22 2009, 03:34 PM) [snapback]592881[/snapback]
I'll put a pint tumbler over your heid ya p***k.

Outside, NOW.

Empty or smash?
mortonjag 2009-03-22 19:11:42 That Thistle and Dundee drew today.
mortonjag 2009-03-22 19:13:45 When I was younger they used to annoy me, but I now appreciate the attention.
mortonjag 2009-03-22 19:22:52
QUOTE(plinth @ Mar 22 2009, 07:15 PM) [snapback]592979[/snapback]
.........and?

nobody else seemed to care! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-22 19:25:08
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Mar 22 2009, 07:13 PM) [snapback]592977[/snapback]
When I was younger they used to annoy me, but I now appreciate the attention.



QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 22 2009, 07:17 PM) [snapback]592980[/snapback]
NUUUUURSE! ohmy.gif

Jaggy needs his medication. rolleyes.gif

Thank you-I now feel much better! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-22 19:26:20
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 22 2009, 07:20 PM) [snapback]592981[/snapback]
A library. We haven't got enough of them. The original purpose wasn't just worship. Quiet contemplation of matters spritual was also involved, that is why contemplation of matters physical, e.g. a restaurant, bar or nightclub, would be an inappropriate change of use. Just my opinion of course. tongue.gif

I see no contradiction! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-22 19:27:19
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 22 2009, 07:21 PM) [snapback]592984[/snapback]
Ah, but I'll bet it would choke on a baseball bat. tongue.gif

It has already choked on as Bichon Frise! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-25 07:07:09
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 22 2009, 08:15 PM) [snapback]593008[/snapback]
I thought Irons had a rolling contract ?

You're confusing him with Mark Farrell, Spurtle.
mortonjag 2009-03-25 07:09:26
QUOTE(MrX @ Mar 23 2009, 02:35 AM) [snapback]593143[/snapback]
Have you resorted to getting your maggot oot for tramps and stray dogs yet?

Is it possible for you to repeat that query in plain English?
mortonjag 2009-03-25 07:17:52
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Mar 24 2009, 01:33 PM) [snapback]593548[/snapback]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7960489.stm

I don't see any problem myself but what do others think?

I highly recommend going to hell.
mortonjag 2009-03-25 07:19:11 Cheers!


Liberal Democrat Chief Whip Mike Rumbles added: "The SNP has finally seen sense. We made it very clear that we would not tolerate the Scottish Government attempting to sneak through such controversial measures.

"I am pleased that after initially dismissing our legitimate concerns about the cavalier way they proposed to introduce these measures, the SNP has now backed down. Ministers should remember this lesson in democracy the next time they try to bypass our national Parliament."

Tory justice spokesman Bill Aitken said: "This is a classic diversionary tactic hoping to persuade the public under health legislation, when in fact the Scottish Government has failed miserably to justify its proposals, which includes blanket minimum pricing on alcohol, targeting entirely the wrong drinks."
mortonjag 2009-03-25 07:31:26 There once were a poster called TiD
T'were amazing them fings whot he did
They sang in the halls
Of his mystical balls
And the fifty foot phallus he hid!

[attachment=5438:sSp_bdayballoons1.gif]
mortonjag 2009-03-25 07:35:42
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 23 2009, 12:25 AM) [snapback]593119[/snapback]
Why do you have a picture of a camp sex pest as your avatar?

Sorry to reply so late Boozie. I thought we'd agreed to put that al fresco adventure behind us. wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-25 08:48:53
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 25 2009, 07:58 AM) [snapback]593836[/snapback]
I paid a few hundred quid for materials, what the other person did with that money has nowt to do with me!! rolleyes.gif

Where the other person obtained the materials clearly doesn't concern you either Peter.

I always knew you were big in accessories! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-26 07:15:10
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 25 2009, 12:48 PM) [snapback]593951[/snapback]
Just don't let it happen again.

Do you think I'm scared of that daft wee ginger muppet and his stick? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-26 07:17:17
QUOTE(MrX @ Mar 25 2009, 08:50 AM) [snapback]593845[/snapback]
No.

Is that a photograph of yourself relaxing on the sofa? I always pictured you looking more like Mr Burns from The Simpsons ohmy.gif

That's my big brother-I'm younger and MUCH more handsome.
mortonjag 2009-03-26 07:22:56 In my humble opinion, any sexually normal man who agrees to marry the Church, and never ejaculate except unconsciously, is a bloody accident waiting to happen.
mortonjag 2009-03-26 07:25:12
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 25 2009, 09:30 AM) [snapback]593861[/snapback]
At least the SNP Government is trying to do something about the disgraceful levels of alcohol abuse. I'm not entirely sure that minimum pricing would hit the right targets, and I'd agree that there is no harm in having a full debate about it, but I fear that Labour in particular will simply try to oppose anything the SNP suggests as a matter of principle. This is an issue on which the whole parliament should be united - it is surely one issue which should not lead to political point scoring as it is an issue to which everyone should be wanting to find a solution.

I don't think Nicola is the least bit scared of Gordon Brown frankly. More that he is scared to do anything that might further reduce his electoral popularity (can you get popularity down below zero?)

As for MJ's headline about getting her 4rse kicked - the usual exaggerated loathing from MJ..


MJ, what would your solution to the alcohol problem be? You must have seen a lot of it at first hand when you were working - what methods do you think would reduce national consumption to the moderate levels that I enjoy nowadays, i.e. practically none?

There is little point in lying about Mortonjag and then tying to sook up with a question! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-26 07:34:46 the aa's view

Looks like it's a fine. I'd suggest you plead guilty citing the mitigating circumstances and producing documents and an explanatory letter from your Mum. They might well admonish you.

mortonjag 2009-03-26 08:16:48 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Whom to believe-Sheep Lips in the Tilly or everybody at Cappielow! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-27 06:13:27
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Mar 26 2009, 08:21 AM) [snapback]594222[/snapback]
That's the question you should be asking! blush.gif

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QUOTE(maccaboy @ Mar 26 2009, 09:37 AM) [snapback]594246[/snapback]
now, that's precisely the sort of sweeping comment that you would take any other poster to task for - if it didn't suit your argument(s).......

Having met Irons and Collins a couple of times, and having spoken to a couple (not "everybody", just a couple) of people who know more than I do about what goes on at Scapa, I believe there's a much better atmosphere and a lot more professionalism there now than there has been for a few years - and that I think is being borne out by results.

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm fed up with posters airing their personal agendas against people they just don't like. They can feed off the negativity that pervades the site when results are bad and morale is low, like in the first quarter or after any defeat, but when things are going relatively well this kind of petty sniping just for the sake of it is tedious in the extreme.

I DON'T CARE if MJ likes Davie Irons or not, but I get fed up reading about it. I know he just posts most of this nonsense to keep up his daily quota, but I'd rather see quality than quantity and he ain't delivering the former with this kind of tripe.

You are inevitably biased. I have NO personal agenda! huh.gif

QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Mar 26 2009, 10:17 AM) [snapback]594263[/snapback]
As long as he gets attention, the crap will continue to get posted. Still no idea why people complain so much about the guy, just ignore the silly stuff.

He does make some good points now and again. Davie Irons' lips for example! laugh.gif

I'm so glad somebody agrees. Of all animals sheep have the most beautiful lips-don't you think? blush.gif

QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 26 2009, 11:11 PM) [snapback]594549[/snapback]
What 'everybody at Cappielow' mean?

Is it the players? the employees? the directors? Maybe its MJ's wee circle in and around where he sits in the stand?

Its certainly not all of the employees nor to my knowledge all of the players. That just leaves the board that I don't know about. Knowing how the Raes view Mortonjag, however, I suspect they do not take him into their confidence in these matters.

I will accept that there may be some who don't like Irons but I don't believe for a minute its 'everybody at Cappielow' taking that in its literal sense.

Listen to me numbers man-if you knew half as much as me you'd be a bloody genius.

Shoogly can't stand Sheep Lips. AD will publicly support him but has little time for him. He is universally despised by the players including one respected senior player who asked Shoogly if he could be released from his contract at the end of the season JUST because of Sheep Lips.



Mortonjag thanks you all. It is some time since he was subjected to this type of abuse.

Don't they hate us when we tell the truth Monkey? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-27 06:25:15
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 26 2009, 09:00 AM) [snapback]594233[/snapback]
I'm not trying to sook up. I'd genuinely like to know what your strategy would be - you must have seen the results of the problems in your professional career.

Well Alibi, if you REALLY want to know, I'd start off by removing all national health matters from the clutches of successive governments. Vote catching is the root of the NHS problem.

One thing's for sure, alcoholism is a largely genetically based illness and you won't solve that by trying to make drink inaccessible. Maybe in the longer term money would be shown to have been better spent on more research into the cause and possibly finding a cure or an effective treatment. I'd also comment-and as you correctly state-I do have personal experience in this field-rehabilitation figures are as complete farce and largely produced as a face saving exercise for Holyrood. Most alcoholics can and will control their problem, but only if and when THEY decide enough is enough. AA is arguably more effective than all the money spent on rehabilitation schemes.

I could go on all day!
mortonjag 2009-03-27 06:26:50
QUOTE(MrX @ Mar 27 2009, 03:46 AM) [snapback]594576[/snapback]
He looks like a nice modern gentleman.

He will be flattered! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-27 06:39:20 ...nor strive officiously to keep alive...
mortonjag 2009-03-27 06:40:51
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 27 2009, 06:30 AM) [snapback]594586[/snapback]
Gidday MJ,

Does he have the same penile abnormality as your good self ?

I'd embarrass him if I asked! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-27 14:31:15
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 27 2009, 12:42 PM) [snapback]594643[/snapback]
Thaks for that MJ. I wonder why the problem doesn't manifest itself in, say, France, where I rarely recall seeing anyone actually drunk. As for the genetic theory, would that not be a genetic preponderance to addiction, a sort of lack of willpower, rather than genes actually being responsible for causing addiction? And is it not more a case of following the example of parents?

I understand your point about thaking control of the nHS away from politicians - always astonishes me how politicians who have no idea about vast numbers of subjects are allowed to become ministers responsible for being in charge of them. However the good ones take the advice of their civil servants and also outside bodies. I'd argue that the proposed new Forth Bridge shows that politicains haven't got a clue. The costs being quoted are about ten times what it cost (adjusted for inflation) for the original road bridge in 1964. So why don't they just say "ok, let's build another one identical to the last one but with stainless steel cables" and it should be an order of magnitude cheaper? Or build a tunnel - far cheaper and more waetherproof - the norweginas are apparently very good at tunnels at low cost. But no, they go for some ludicrously expensive scheme instead.



Many addicts (to alcohol or whatever) have immense will power in other areas-Churchill is a good example!

I don't know if they will come up with a specific gene for alcoholism, but suspect they will, rather than a genetic predisposition to addictive behaviour. Addicts who control one habit certainly tend to adopt another but that's by no means invariable.




mortonjag 2009-03-27 14:34:22
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Mar 27 2009, 01:39 PM) [snapback]594657[/snapback]
Are you circumcised, mj? Or are you a COMPLETE p***k? rolleyes.gif

I still possess my very first pullover dear.
mortonjag 2009-03-27 14:38:39
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Mar 27 2009, 02:36 PM) [snapback]594676[/snapback]
"if at first ye don't succeed.......
.......pull yer foreskin over yer heid......." tongue.gif

Rampant anti-semitism-go and wash your mouth out with soap. I hope the Mods are paying Jew attention.
mortonjag 2009-03-27 14:44:06
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Mar 27 2009, 07:09 AM) [snapback]594592[/snapback]
No abuse from me.

You didn't reply to my question when I asked you on the other thread. Will you issue an apology to this "massage board" if DI's still in a job come the start of next season?

If you're proven correct I'll certainly admit to being mistaken.

As I say, though, despite what you know (most of which is common knowledge) I think you're going to be left with egg on your face. ph34r.gif



How DARE you call me common. I'm most uncommon and don't issue apologies to commoners! laugh.gif


QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Mar 27 2009, 12:34 PM) [snapback]594642[/snapback]
If Irons' isn't gone at the end of the season, can you fck off and never post on this message board again you complete and utter wank?

smile.gif

Don't worry sonny boy-he'll be gone! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-27 15:22:50
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Mar 27 2009, 03:17 PM) [snapback]594687[/snapback]
I demand, that mortonjag will issue a full apology to the users of greenockmorton.org if, by the time the first division season 2009/2010 begins, David Irons holds the managerial position at Greenock Morton F.C Ltd.

There's a contract for you...don't give us any of yer crap about what you know, just the words 'i agree/ do not agree'

Thanks smile.gif

I offer to provide said apology in return for an apology from every poster who has previously rubbished my knowledge and inevitably been proven wrong! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-27 15:24:18
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Mar 27 2009, 02:50 PM) [snapback]594683[/snapback]
I had a pal who went round the zoos circumcising elephants.

The pay was rubbish - but the tips were enormous....... laugh.gif

Team of plumbers stopped work in the synagogue 'cos they kept getting their tools nicked.
mortonjag 2009-03-27 15:49:05
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Mar 27 2009, 03:34 PM) [snapback]594691[/snapback]
Ahhh, the old Jonny rule no. 4 i believe. It would be worse if she was 15 christ! Happened to Renton in Trainspotting aswell.

19 is an awkward age. 16 just seems too young, despite the legalities. Older? Pfft, anything that tarts up half decent! ph34r.gif

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mortonjag 2009-03-27 15:52:13 You Nats will stop at nothing. Cruelly shooting down a half blind and unarmed cretin is surely below the belt! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-27 15:58:04
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Mar 27 2009, 03:49 PM) [snapback]594696[/snapback]
There once was a man with a sheeps lip
Who loved to just suck on a nip!
But no, mortonjag, he won't get the bag
So f*** off and please leave a tip!

smile.gif

I really should work on these essays sad.gif

There once was a coach from Dumfries
With sheep's lips and a big woolly fleece
In summer the Raes
Will send him to graze
And Mortonjag's moaning will cease.

mortonjag 2009-03-27 16:29:56
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Mar 27 2009, 04:26 PM) [snapback]594701[/snapback]
According to P&B big Reidy's headed for Cappielow in the summer and we've allegedly tried to poach him already. huh.gif

Could the jag break his duck and call this one correctly? tongue.gif

unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-27 19:33:06 Mortonjag has already stated that we will have a new manager after this season ends! blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-27 19:34:50
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Mar 27 2009, 06:42 PM) [snapback]594734[/snapback]
Couldn't be arsed starting a new thread on it, but apparently it's in the Daily Record today that Irons has appealed a four match touchline ban he was given after the 0-0 draw with Airdrie? huh.gif

Just the Record talking utter pish as usual I presume?

Oh dear-can Shoogly hire a padded cell in time for the next home match? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-27 19:36:08
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 27 2009, 05:03 PM) [snapback]594708[/snapback]
Are you worried incase that includes you?

dry.gif ph34r.gif

So you've slept with a tart darling! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-27 19:41:39
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Mar 21 2009, 03:01 AM) [snapback]592336[/snapback]
People are harsh toward Wake because he if guff. We desperately need a half decent striker.

Criticising Jim and Kev for having 1 goal between them (which was McAlisters btw wink.gif ) is ridiculous, as they are not there to score goals.

Correct-they are there to pose as wingers.

QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Mar 23 2009, 01:15 PM) [snapback]593219[/snapback]
Russell also has a decent scoring rate this season, 7 in 15 starts. Does anyone think it's worth starting with Wake and Russell who both have a ratio of around 1 in 2 starts, against Spoonsy 1 in 3 and Grady 1 in 7, or does it not matter if your strikers score goals as long as they can hold the ball up well?


I'd imagine LEAFY has the best goals to time on ratio!
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Mar 23 2009, 04:43 PM) [snapback]593305[/snapback]
I'd go along with that, I though the two of them done very well together at the start of the season, and were victims of circumstance. Russell, in particular, would have been a strong contender for PotY if he was allowed to keep up the form he showed in that spell.

I feel that, whilst Weatherson is a better player than both, Russell and Wake complement and combine much better than any other pairing we have, and provide a more varied threat.

Neither deserved to be dropped.

Spoonsy and LEAFY for me with Wakey as back up.
mortonjag 2009-03-27 19:52:11
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Mar 27 2009, 04:28 PM) [snapback]594702[/snapback]
[attachment=5445:SNN1305A..._732314a.jpg]

little andy walker, little karen mathews and little baby no chance.
The chavs are getting wise and are now making up stories and getting exclusives in the sun etc for a tidy sum o money.

Retired GP impregnates 90 year old Granny? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-27 19:54:48
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 27 2009, 07:48 PM) [snapback]594751[/snapback]
mj, stop being a snider eh? i've been tryin to give u the benefit of the doubt for a while but you actually come across as a pretty nasty f***er. ok we get it, you "tell the truth". your disclaimer on your profile re your psychiatrist and lawyer is a f***in cop-out mate.

seriously , this sheep lips carry-on is out of order and i suspect u know f*** all smile.gif

You may suspect whatever you wish dear-the fact that DI has lovely lips has no bearing on how he uses them. He'll be oot the door come the summer! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-27 19:57:20
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Mar 27 2009, 07:53 PM) [snapback]594755[/snapback]
How long after? tongue.gif

I reckon we'll have one after this season too, but not until a couple of years after!

Well it's common knowledge that Shoogly still calls the shots, and it's common knowledge that Sheep Lips' contract's up soon, and it's common knowledge that Shoogly wants rid of him!

Ask LargsTON if you don't believe me! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-27 20:01:18
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Mar 27 2009, 07:59 PM) [snapback]594760[/snapback]
He's been reasonably successful, why would Shoogly want him out? smile.gif

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mortonjag 2009-03-27 20:14:14
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Mar 27 2009, 08:09 PM) [snapback]594763[/snapback]
Pie and Bovril, at it as usual. What a lot of crap. Irons will almost certainly be the manager going into next season, unless he contracts scrapy, or the human variant, depending on what he actually is...... rolleyes.gif

Mortonjag is an expert wind-up artist who people enjoy being wound by! Plus, if that is him in his profile picture, he looks like Michael from the Linton Travel Tavern/BP Garage in 'I'm Alan Partridge'. Would you trust him? laugh.gif

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Anyway sonny boy, the point is that the Irons man WILL be gone come the end of the season. It will be best for him and best for the club. The better form is a measure of the players hopes for a new manager with monkey lips.
mortonjag 2009-03-27 20:17:09
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Mar 27 2009, 08:11 PM) [snapback]594764[/snapback]
ohmy.gif What a f***ed up world we live in!

Your avatar is puzzling!
mortonjag 2009-03-27 20:28:11
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 27 2009, 08:24 PM) [snapback]594768[/snapback]
really though, do you actually enjoy winding people up? there are a few on here who do , granted but you seem like an intelligent guy. why all the belligerence? personally my wind ups extend as far as saying puggsy's favourite song sounds like busted ( tongue.gif ) but you are always being a total wide-o. pm with your reasons if you are genuine.

you're talking about a guys livelihood and slagging his appearance. do you think this is morally ok? serious question. smile.gif

just as some back you up on here and think you're a laugh i know many people (posters and otherwise) who think you're out of order - not in what you say but in the way that you say it.

play nice smile.gif

Of course not-i'm expecting a knock on the door from the Polis any minute! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-27 20:31:14
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 27 2009, 08:27 PM) [snapback]594770[/snapback]
laugh.gif that's him!

How old is this Michael wallah?
mortonjag 2009-03-27 20:34:28 mellow.gif
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 27 2009, 08:20 PM) [snapback]594767[/snapback]
The closest i've came is spilling a lemon tart on my crotch. I say it counts.

Try shagging a rhubarb tart-it's much more stimulating.
mortonjag 2009-03-27 20:37:24
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 27 2009, 08:30 PM) [snapback]594772[/snapback]
you never answer questions mate. am i to assume you've shat it again?

you can pm if you want to keep up your alter ego smile.gif mums the word

I'm not in the habit of sending pm's to people who try to rubbish my statements darling-but do keep fishing! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-27 20:40:18
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Mar 27 2009, 03:43 PM) [snapback]594694[/snapback]
Just re-read that thread there. Noticed the Jag and my sibling going at it in an argument that puggs appeared to have won...shocer that MJ didn't reply ohmy.gif

Mortonjag appears to have missed something of earth shattering significance. unsure.gif

QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 27 2009, 08:31 PM) [snapback]594775[/snapback]
yous are good lads. mj will dissapear for a while to fit a kitchen or something.... rolleyes.gif

I'm into ladies' apertures at the moment.
mortonjag 2009-03-27 20:41:51 mellow.gif
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 27 2009, 08:33 PM) [snapback]594776[/snapback]
have you never watched alan partridge? what's wrong with you?

I prefer One Man and his Dog.
mortonjag 2009-03-27 20:46:49 laugh.gif
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 27 2009, 08:35 PM) [snapback]594779[/snapback]
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jim u must admit that's a quality comeback!

the whole foreigner thing in this world of ours seems pretty outdated to me

Very true - I think we should all emigrate and become foreigners-guaranteed jobs and nobody will be able to say a dicky bird! laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-27 21:20:11
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 27 2009, 09:15 PM) [snapback]594790[/snapback]
Can't help notice all the "kick them out back home" types have failed to give WDE a valid reply to this.

Oh I'm sure WDE is big enough and bad enough to fight his own battles. You really can't help yourself-can you PD? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-27 21:22:47
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 27 2009, 09:19 PM) [snapback]594792[/snapback]
Go on...answer his questions unsure.gif

Are you REALLY so ugly that you don't even go looking for your hole of a Friday evening?
mortonjag 2009-03-27 21:33:04 I can still listen to which ever music I please. The internet rather than destroying music, has destroyed the ability to think independently for those who probably never would have in the first place. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-27 21:50:04
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 27 2009, 09:36 PM) [snapback]594802[/snapback]
Personally I think music has ruined the internet. dry.gif

[youtube]Lu-UkTv8tVk[/youtube]

Any impersonal views dearie? blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-27 21:52:35
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Mar 27 2009, 09:42 PM) [snapback]594804[/snapback]
We all know Broon is on his last legs.

Jade had more credibility than him!

unsure.gif

Well, come to think of it, they had much in common! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-27 21:56:12
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 27 2009, 09:49 PM) [snapback]594805[/snapback]
So WDE's missus should be chucked on the first plane back to Thailand? dry.gif

Well WHY not you little turd? ph34r.gif


mortonjag 2009-03-27 21:59:23
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 27 2009, 09:50 PM) [snapback]594807[/snapback]
I''ve been out this afternoon and am out tomorrow night.

Look...I answered the question!

Your turn smile.gif

Good God-it's true you're uglier than a Sheep Lips' cuddle.
mortonjag 2009-03-27 22:04:26
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 27 2009, 10:00 PM) [snapback]594816[/snapback]
I don't have a Thai passport wink.gif

Do you have 50p?
mortonjag 2009-03-27 22:06:31
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 27 2009, 10:04 PM) [snapback]594820[/snapback]
Chuck her out ! I could do with the peace ! rolleyes.gif

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Send Puggs instead-he's desperate for his hole!
mortonjag 2009-03-27 22:09:08 blink.gif
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 27 2009, 10:00 PM) [snapback]594815[/snapback]
Not answering them? Thought as much.

Quiet pathetic really! mellow.gif

Stop gibbering-are you going out or not? Just take some condoms and ram it up the first hole you see.
mortonjag 2009-03-27 22:12:00 blink.gif
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 27 2009, 10:10 PM) [snapback]594824[/snapback]
Well I was nervous with you watching with your c**k in one hand and camera in the other sad.gif

You WISH! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-27 22:15:01
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 27 2009, 10:11 PM) [snapback]594825[/snapback]
As previously stated, I am not going out this evening. I have been out all afternoon enjoying a wee day off in the nice weather.

I am out tomorrow night.

And what hole? Ear hole? Nose hole? unsure.gif

So I have answered the question put to me, again! So come on sir, care to answers the ones for you or you urgently needed in London?

Go out and seek your hole and gie's peace PD! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-27 22:19:17
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 27 2009, 10:13 PM) [snapback]594827[/snapback]
I wasn't talking to you, I obviously haven't caught you yet! unsure.gif

Nor will you ever sonny boy-anyway, my hole beckons and I bid you goodnight. PM the monkey if you have any urgent medical questions! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-28 09:10:09
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 28 2009, 02:02 AM) [snapback]594962[/snapback]
mj it's like this - i've never met puggsy but he's a well respected guy on here; he doesn't get wide with people even though he isn't shy in coming forward. you on the other hand love to be a wide-o. i used to fall out with you a lot or "bite" as some other posters say. i tried to just get on with you/ignore you (even inviting you to say hello. you know who i am i think and there's no way i would have been hostile - i'm not exactly a hard man) but you are ubiquitous on this fan's forum so it's hard to ignore you mate. you are ever eager to point out faults in others but really (taking in to mind your "disclaimer") are you all there? if i knew that there were plans afoot to oust someone from their livelihood i would have the courtesy to keep it to myself. you have no class mate and no manners. as the old toffs on here say- for shame.

Dry your crocodile tears. I've stated that I believe Irons will leave when his contract expires at the end of the summer. Maybe you don't like what I say or the way I say it, but that cuts no more ice with me than it will with the players who detest the man, or with my old friend Shoogly who regrets the day he stepped through the Cappielow portals.

I have class and manners in abundance when class and manners are the order of the day. When dealing with self important wee fuds on an unofficial massage board, I do tend to get sucked down to their level. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-28 09:14:45
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Mar 27 2009, 11:54 PM) [snapback]594874[/snapback]
In a word ......pish.


You know fuck Mc all as I've told you before-back to your kennel you apology for the canine species! ph34r.gif


QUOTE(centralTON @ Mar 28 2009, 12:15 AM) [snapback]594899[/snapback]
I like that pose of your brother Frank, lounging on his couch, it makes me want you more than ever. wub.gif laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2009-03-30 10:07:51
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Mar 29 2009, 05:34 PM) [snapback]595444[/snapback]
"The club is in great shape now, especially since Alistair Donals has come in"

Quote from Alex Walker. Interesting. AD must be more involved than any of us thought if players are praising his influence since joining. blink.gif

And reading the rest of the article in yesterday's paper it seems like Walker has no problem with Irons and is happy that Irons has praised them all individually, and is happy playing anywhere across the back.

NONE of the players like Irons, remember? rolleyes.gif

WRONG AGAIN!

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-30 10:16:02
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 29 2009, 12:19 AM) [snapback]595283[/snapback]
I've never noticed anyone saying that was a reason the players didn't like him. I've only seen that used by people defending Irons - suggesting that the players might not like him because he probably works them too hard.

CORRECT. For the first few weeks after JM left, there was a honeymoon period during which the players enjoyed being worked hard. The many reasons why Sheep Lips is detested by the squad relate to his personality or lack of it. Anyway-he's off at the end of the season.
mortonjag 2009-03-30 10:26:59
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Mar 28 2009, 04:26 PM) [snapback]595107[/snapback]
There was once a lad named Mortonjag
Who went out to smoke a fag
He wend to his car
It wasn't too far
He was seen wanking off to a porno mag

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I'll admit to a regular wank
To giving John Thomas a yank
But in horniest moods
I have no need of 'nudes'
'Cos my tadger is built like a tank.
mortonjag 2009-03-30 10:38:03 Maybe he has shares in 'Durex'! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-30 10:39:41
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 30 2009, 10:36 AM) [snapback]595588[/snapback]
Dr Mentaljag by the sound of it. laugh.gif

Mortonjag has always been available 'in an advisory capacity'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-30 10:42:28
QUOTE(Patg @ Mar 30 2009, 10:10 AM) [snapback]595575[/snapback]
Of course it does but been chucked out yra ago ....
but wish had another one would then go on and kick that scawney skinny cat called cappie back were he came from ...
Pat G ...
Old but Wiser

I wish you many happy returns. We old yins must stick together.

Have a gay day! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-30 12:25:36
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Mar 30 2009, 12:09 PM) [snapback]595638[/snapback]
Is that a question? To mj?? You DO know you're wasting your time, don't you???

He's already stated on this very thread that "NONE of the players like Irons", and that he is hated by "EVERYONE at Cappielow".

Indefensible, reprehensible statements both. Statements that are patently untrue and simply cannot be justified. But do you think he'll answer questions about them? OF COURSE NOT - he'll wriggle away from it by changing the subject or hurling abuse at the questioner, as he always does.

Best ways to react to his nonsense are either: a) to ignore him, which is difficult as he's reached pandemic proportions on this site, or cool.gif ridicule him. He doesn't like that much.
Soooooo.......
MJ, AWAY AN' THROW SH ITE AT YERSEL'.

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Opinions my dear-just opinions based on reliable information. As to your shite remark-I'm sure you'd be MUCH to heavy! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-30 12:30:12
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Mar 30 2009, 11:17 AM) [snapback]595603[/snapback]
he might be right enough - if you "short" you are gambling on a stock making a loss, and without the Raes meeting that loss via Golden Casket that's exactly what Morton would be doing....... rolleyes.gif

Don't worry my good friend, AD will get us into the SPL pretty soon!
mortonjag 2009-03-30 16:27:25
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Mar 30 2009, 03:27 PM) [snapback]595676[/snapback]
Oh, so they're OPINIONS now, are they? Despite being touted by you as being FACTS up till now?

Is this the beginning of a new trend - a retraction from mortonjag?? Let's hope so - tho unfortunately it'll give him the excuse for another couple of thousand posts to catch up with all the apologies he owes....... laugh.gif

When I establish facts personally I state them as facts. For example, I have just done a pee.

When I post information from reliable sources who have never let me down in the past it is MY OPINION that the information is factual.

Is that OK with you Jobby? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-30 19:21:00
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 30 2009, 07:07 PM) [snapback]595757[/snapback]
I think we've found MJ's source. tongue.gif

You think wrong lover-though it's good of Barbie to put some sense on the matter. I have several sources and the two on DI's future are well respected. One is an experienced sports journalist, while the other has inside knowledge at Cappielow. As I've stated, the boys are playing better now because they can see an end to this horrible season under the sheep lipped dictator, and are looking forward to better things with much more involvement from AD.

As usual the fans have VERY short memories and are utterly fickle. Not a soul came out in support of DI when he was about to walk the plank. If AD hadn't smoothed the way for Grady's arrival, 'big mouth' would long since be gone and we'd probably be doing even better! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-31 07:13:30
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 30 2009, 10:19 PM) [snapback]595824[/snapback]
laugh.gif
biggest climbdown yet rolleyes.gif

I doubt if you've the wit to explain that inaccuracy without resorting to evasion. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-31 07:18:32
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Mar 31 2009, 02:17 AM) [snapback]595851[/snapback]
And what if the good Doctor tuns out to be corect - will we all have to chip in to give him a Cirrhotic liver? ph34r.gif rolleyes.gif wink.gif

laugh.gif

The good Doctor's correctness is always glossed over tale bearer! Anyway tell that auld fud Shoogly that I'm asking for him, and remind him to bring the ear muffs for the next game or to ban sheep lips to the shed-maybe that would change a few opinions on here! laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-03-31 07:26:37
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Mar 30 2009, 05:43 PM) [snapback]595726[/snapback]
While giving himself a w**k
He thinks it's big as a tank
In the middle of it he lets it fly
But when he stopped thinking of that guy
His tank.....sank.


And what makes you think Tricky, pray,
That Mortonjag's habits are gay
My brightest o' claes
Are neutrals and greys
I do things the old fashioned way.
mortonjag 2009-04-04 08:04:29
QUOTE(Cawston @ Mar 31 2009, 04:24 PM) [snapback]596060[/snapback]
When he was about to walk the plank the poll conducted in here had almost 70% backing him to keep his job (not me though).

Mind you, some folk only have short memories when it suits them..now who could that be? tongue.gif



Yourself obviously-the poll was about WHEN he should go-not IF he should go Cawstick! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 31 2009, 06:12 PM) [snapback]596119[/snapback]
He wont mention that wink.gif

Fuck off and gie's peace PD. Go shag a sporran.
mortonjag 2009-04-04 08:08:06 Our good home record can't last for ever and we were pretty poor at Dingwall. I've a feeling we're all going to be a wee bit disappointed today-hoping to scrape a draw but have visions of us blowing it with a late sucker punch from the Dee. 1-2.
mortonjag 2009-04-05 18:35:53
QUOTE(forza ton @ Apr 1 2009, 07:12 PM) [snapback]596552[/snapback]
i love these ones that have no rhythm whatsoever!

i done one about mj once but if i post it he'll say i'm laughing at my own jokes.

Go on my friend-let's all have a laugh at your poetic genius! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-07 13:29:30
QUOTE(SramTon @ Apr 6 2009, 08:31 PM) [snapback]598585[/snapback]
You could have pointed that out a bit earlier FFS.

I've spent the last three months battering f*** out the wee c*** on what I thought was the advice of an ex-GP!

All that suffering for nothing, and You could have stopped it cappiecat. I hope that's on your conscience.

For shame.

laugh.gif Spare the rod and spoil the child!
mortonjag 2009-04-07 13:36:47 Or Shanghai Sling?
mortonjag 2009-04-07 13:42:47
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Apr 6 2009, 08:25 PM) [snapback]598580[/snapback]
Mortonjag where are you when we need you?

This is your cue to come on and tell us all about Alistair's millions instead of Shooglies sweety millions.
About how he's "waiting in the wings" ready to pounce when Shooglie falls off his perch.
About how you can find him in the Times Rich List, o.k. I was taking the piss there.
About things have improved since he came to Cappielow, I see you've been talking to Alex Walkers brain cell.

Or is it just all smoke and mirrors with no substance whatsoever. laugh.gif



QUOTE(maccaboy @ Apr 7 2009, 01:31 PM) [snapback]598787[/snapback]
Ever seen the film "WestWorld"?? MJ is an android and Alistair Donald has had him taken out of circulation to have the wee memorystick in his heid scoured clean of hatred for the Raes, unverified rumours presented as "fact" and all the old nastiness. That's why it's taking longer than expected. But soon he'll be back, reprogrammed with a heidfull of FudgyWudgies and goodwill to all men - except Alex Salmond, as apparently no amount of software rewriting will convince him that AS isn't a c***. laugh.gif



I see the children have little to say when Mortonjag is otherwise occupied.

Alistair Donald will have full control within three seasons little ones! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-07 13:45:13 I heard a whisper that Dom called DI Sheep Lips! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-07 13:47:12
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Apr 7 2009, 10:58 AM) [snapback]598750[/snapback]
I heard from my source that Irons made a move on Stewart in the dressing room which ended with Irons being told in no uncertain terms that, although Stewart is a model that it doesn't mean he's gay. Not for at least £30.

FACT.

...and Sheep Lips was banned from touching for four matches.
mortonjag 2009-04-07 13:48:19
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Apr 7 2009, 01:47 PM) [snapback]598792[/snapback]
I heard a wee whisper it wasn't Dom & was in fact................YOU!! ohmy.gif rolleyes.gif

WOOD EYE? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-07 13:51:54 The refs are quick enough to blow the whistle if they have the slightest suspicion of a serious injury. JM is correct!
mortonjag 2009-04-08 06:54:16 Nickerless's parrot


Shona Robison, Minister for Public Health, said: "The community nursing pilot is one way in which the Scottish Government and NHS Scotland is exploring how nursing services might evolve to meet the needs of Scotland's population.


More lies, more spin. The NHS is skint and moribund.

TELL THE F***ING TRUTH

What a shower of shameless and pathological liars masquerading as humanity. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-10 06:57:53 Hospital chaplains are worth their weight in gold and in Scotland are paid buttons or offer their services for free.

This evil blackening of their names by some Lucifer beaurocrat will surely see him burned in hell by the big man.

Anybody who believes the average salary figures quoted probably distrusts Mortonjag's sources, and is frightened by 'sweary words'. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-10 07:00:25
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 8 2009, 04:49 PM) [snapback]599146[/snapback]
I've a growing collection of hardcore porno movies on DVD, would anyone like any ?

Any big Gillian ones WDE?
mortonjag 2009-04-10 07:03:23
AWAY AND FUCK YERSEL'S
mortonjag 2009-04-10 07:10:26


QUOTE(nach0king @ Apr 9 2009, 10:56 PM) [snapback]599519[/snapback]
I'm told he wasn't especially involved and he (and some others) left a bit early, but still, shows he was in the area, at least.

Guys like Paartalu, McAlistair and above all Grady apparently endeared themselves to the young'uns biggrin.gif

Exactly how he saved Sheep Lips' bacon! laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-11 08:11:16 We're in limbo at the moment-hence the inactivity on the massage board-no fear of relegation, no prospect of promotion, and not quite knowing where we're headed.

The board would be buzzing with excitement if folk would just listen to Mortonjag. huh.gif

Sheep Lips goes out to pasture in the summer, and Golden Casket will prepare itself for a glorious exit from Cappielow over the next two seasons, as SS Shoogly triumphantly berths in the SPL under the steady hand of first officer Donald. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-11 08:16:44 If we stick Jimbo or Kev on that wee ned Griffiths and break a couple of legs in the first fifteen minutes we can win this! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

A draw at Almondvale would be a satisfactory result, but I've got a really good feel about today's game and I'm going for 2-0 to the Ton, with goals from Spoonsy, who was, is and always will be a striker, and Masty!
mortonjag 2009-04-11 08:19:26
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 11 2009, 08:10 AM) [snapback]599828[/snapback]
What a crap excuse. You're a part-timer. I've only missed one game since I was conceived and that's because I was in hospital being born. Shocking. For shame.

I always imagined you as a product of the birthing chair.
mortonjag 2009-04-11 08:20:36
QUOTE(SramTon @ Apr 10 2009, 09:28 AM) [snapback]599585[/snapback]
"Yersel's" what?

cool.gif

ARSE! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-11 08:21:56
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 10 2009, 06:17 PM) [snapback]599726[/snapback]
naw, who is big Gillian ? Need I ask ?

If you my latest list MJ then just send me a PM.

You don't have an original of Big Gillian sooks Shoogly's knob in Arthur's conservatory, perchance?
mortonjag 2009-04-11 08:25:13
QUOTE(SramTon @ Apr 10 2009, 09:14 AM) [snapback]599582[/snapback]
Is that not what Viagra's for?

Viagra makes one stand up for Jesus? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-11 08:29:28
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 11 2009, 08:24 AM) [snapback]599837[/snapback]
How is it bonkers? Whether you are religious or like me have no time for it, the fact is the church is quite entitled to express its views and to speak out on issues. Easter is a religious holiday, I dare say there are man church going football fans and is it not right that the church should ask that its members are not asked to choose and have the ability to do both? I believe that in the Catholic church the Easter Weekend masses are pretty much the most important of their religious calender.

I take it you are advocating the banning of sporting events at the beck and call of God's messengers!
mortonjag 2009-04-11 08:31:46
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Apr 11 2009, 08:20 AM) [snapback]599833[/snapback]
Dunno about no prospect of promotion. Ignoring the SPL criteria for a minute things could get very interesting if results go ur way today. happy.gif

There's more chance of us winning the league than DI not being manager come August. You don't honestly still believe he's for the heave-ho, surely? huh.gif

Do you not think he deserves another year? blink.gif

I think he deserves a year in self awareness classes! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-11 08:33:27
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Apr 11 2009, 08:21 AM) [snapback]599835[/snapback]
We won't keep a clean sheet against Livi! ph34r.gif

You were right last week-I got four draws on my Canadian and f*cked up with the Ton!

SO-I'll be right today! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-13 06:43:55 Well done lads! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-13 07:13:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 13 2009, 06:50 AM) [snapback]600655[/snapback]
Gidday MJ,

Is that a quotable quote from the man himself on Saturday or are you just paraphrasing ?

Are you flogging a dead sheep ?

huh.gif
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...ideoid=29301486

Merely my considered opinion Newt! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-13 07:18:05
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Apr 12 2009, 03:06 AM) [snapback]600328[/snapback]
McArthur isn't in and has never requested to be in. 44TT posted this in the boring section where McArthur expressed his disgust - Bryan or GKR then moved it in here.

McArthur's a prick and shags hedgehogs.
mortonjag 2009-04-13 07:19:43
QUOTE(SramTon @ Apr 12 2009, 10:47 AM) [snapback]600386[/snapback]
If you'd said "mouth" I might have given it another attempt. I managed to get quite close the last time, and that was a few years ago. My vertebrae may have a bit more give in them now.

Ask DI for a loan of his lips!
mortonjag 2009-04-13 07:20:38
QUOTE(axeman @ Apr 12 2009, 09:48 PM) [snapback]600618[/snapback]
What's the best way to give your dog a bone?

Tickle his balls.

My dog is a bitch! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-13 07:22:25
QUOTE(foxy @ Apr 12 2009, 08:55 PM) [snapback]600606[/snapback]
thanks guys.

Boozie, less of your cheek or I'll pass on my zimmer to you in july

Less of the ageism Mr Fox! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-13 07:26:52
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Apr 13 2009, 03:02 AM) [snapback]600652[/snapback]
Making enemies with like minded people is a bit of a sad thing to do especially when you go the length and breadth of Europe to support your country and club(obviously to a far lesser extent). I understand that you sometimes go over the score and act like a fud at games but that is your perogative and probably due to drink, in a similar vain as the tartan terrors and us more laid back non kilted scotland fans do on such occasions. To feel the need to be so caught up in it that it can become a be all and end all might be a thing that a lot of fans feel but personally it's not my bag, it's only football at the end o the day. I enjoy passion but there is a thin line between that and piousness as if you are the only true fans which i fell a lot of your post kinda reflect, and your views become a sideshow to more pressing matters concerning that of everyday footballing matters, I for one aint interested and your ongoing feud with DDFR and should be dropped , I'm not his greatest fan but I can be honest enough now and eat a bit o humble pie and say we are looking a lot more secure than many other clubs at our level and thats after wasting loads o dough on diddies.

To support means to back not to backbite so stop being a primadonna and muck in with the rest

and barbie you chill...eh



Don't talk pish-the resurgence is all down to AD, and Sheep Lips being relegated from the players' minds.
mortonjag 2009-04-13 07:29:03 ARSEnal
mortonjag 2009-04-13 07:32:27
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 13 2009, 07:24 AM) [snapback]600661[/snapback]
Which one of the team drives the Astra then Douglas? Was it a win bonus? rolleyes.gif

The laundry boy drives a twenty five year old astra-but I digress.

Do you not understand Latin Mr Mcarthur?

AD est lupus in ovis vestitus!
mortonjag 2009-04-13 07:34:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 13 2009, 07:30 AM) [snapback]600664[/snapback]

AD and Sheep Lips being relegated from the players' minds.


rather poor grammar - please try harder.

You make assumptions Newt-however, I have inserted the missing comma! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-13 07:36:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 13 2009, 07:35 AM) [snapback]600667[/snapback]
all the better to bite you with.

Oh Grandmama-what big lips you have! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-13 08:42:35
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 13 2009, 07:47 AM) [snapback]600671[/snapback]
Nah, never had any truck with dead languages, that's why I can't be doing with Gaelic. laugh.gif

Gaelic is of no use whatsoever in the understanding of English Peter. Latin, on the other hand, is immensely helpful. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-13 08:45:06
QUOTE(Cor Blimey @ Apr 13 2009, 08:27 AM) [snapback]600672[/snapback]
You'll stop though. Maybe not soon, but you'll stop.

NewTON is immortal! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-13 10:16:34
QUOTE(edd @ Apr 13 2009, 08:47 AM) [snapback]600676[/snapback]
your use of latin makes me wonder how much you understand it, mj - if you were taught latin in school i'll forgive you as that was many many years ago in your case, but only the subject in the clause takes the nominative case ...

i dunno what you mean by "A.D." but i think it should be: per A.D. et ardua ad astra excludo ovitem labias, or even per A.D. et ardua ad astra excludandum ovitem labias if you are trying to say "excluding" (since that'll be a gerund, as opposed to "excludo" which is a verb meaning "i exclude")

and maybe a better phrase for wolf in sheep's clothing might be: lupus ovis pelle indutus (though i would still like to know who AD is).

i could be completely wrong, of course, so i'm off to watch the life of brian again just in case.

laugh.gif

I only use internet latin, edd-I don't profess to speak the language, though I do understand it!

I am, however, mightily impressed by your education, I bet that came at a price! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-13 10:19:04
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Apr 13 2009, 10:11 AM) [snapback]600694[/snapback]
I'm so sorry, I didn't realise the error of my ways please accept my humblest apologies oh greet seer of thruth.

now f*** of back to spamming the board

NO!
mortonjag 2009-04-13 10:55:13
QUOTE(forza ton @ Apr 13 2009, 10:39 AM) [snapback]600707[/snapback]
another great climbdown rolleyes.gif

laugh.gif

Indeed my friend-another couple of hundred of those and I'll have reached your level! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-13 11:01:42
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Apr 13 2009, 10:29 AM) [snapback]600702[/snapback]
I wish they widnae dae that! It's feckin' hard enough keeping track o' things! And McArthur was NEVER in. Anywhere. I mean,TWEED FFS!



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mortonjag 2009-04-13 11:03:12
QUOTE(forza ton @ Apr 13 2009, 10:59 AM) [snapback]600712[/snapback]
always with the smart reply. even if it isn't smart and makes no sense you have to say something right?

Don't ever play with guns! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-13 11:07:06
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Apr 13 2009, 10:53 AM) [snapback]600709[/snapback]
f***in' wind up!

Having dragged my erse up the road for Easter to visit family and friends, a last minute change of plans meant a chance to see the boys in action. I jumped in the jam jar wae my midden pal and headed for Almondvale. We got to the queue for the turnstiles about 2:45. There was a few folk queueing but I thought we'd still be in for kick-off. Ten minutes later we'd moved about 5 feet and it was now painfully obvious we'd miss the start which was fair enough as it was last minute on our part but it was starting to look like we might miss 15-20 minutes or more! I recognised the danger signs and decided discretion was the better part of valour so we left before I got myself huckled! Two turnstiles were open to accomodate Ton fans. Is that par for the course?

Yours sincerely

Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells!



Dear Disgusted of the Tunbridge Wells,

I am so regretful in your misfortunes and respectfully requesting if you did the minute one no speak outside.

Yours

Chairmano Livi.
mortonjag 2009-04-14 06:27:46 It's no big deal really-just another blatant lie.
mortonjag 2009-04-14 06:30:36
QUOTE(forza ton @ Apr 13 2009, 03:04 PM) [snapback]600770[/snapback]
there is a topic starter then all the other posts lined up below in strange fashion. wtf? i don't like it and i want to turn it off please sad.gif

1eye.gif crying.gif crying.gif crying.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-14 06:43:27
QUOTE(Cor Blimey @ Apr 14 2009, 01:38 AM) [snapback]600870[/snapback]
Didn't you know that his posts top the psychiatry students' reading list?

I see we have another bright spark among us. I DO hope you're not another mouton, or Rex Ratus Magnus will descend on you like a ton of pricks.

mouton was a little ram
his fleece was white and shiny
he grazed oft near the old mill dam
and butted in Cor Blimey ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-14 06:50:46 I'd humbly suggest that we leave the new manager to make those decisions. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-14 06:54:10
QUOTE(tontric @ Apr 12 2009, 01:18 PM) [snapback]600451[/snapback]
Anyone else noticed that the common theme for all of our goals lately seems to be that one of our players shoelaces seems to have come undone. It's amazing how many goals we've scored this year that just after its gone in one of the players has had to tie their laces in the oppositions half for a minute or 2.

Maybe we should just ban shoelaces altogether if this is the impact it has !!!

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Footballers don't play in shoes! laugh.gif

It's NOT a coincidence. It's a trick taught to the players by Mr Grady, and it prevents the opposition from getting straight back at us. smartass.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-14 07:09:26
QUOTE(SramTon @ Apr 13 2009, 01:36 PM) [snapback]600743[/snapback]
A winning combination of sheep-shagging and self-fellatio. I doubt even WDE's video collection includes such luxuries.

It's a very common expression-'Away and fuck yersel', but historically, very few have 'come into their own'.

Ben Boyce-a big bugger from Gwent
Had a knob that was terribly bent
So great was its size
That 'twas wrapped round his thighs
And stuffed up his arse during Lent.
mortonjag 2009-04-14 07:12:10
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 14 2009, 07:07 AM) [snapback]600886[/snapback]
With the approval of the gaffer, I trust.

Allan McManus has given the nod to it!
mortonjag 2009-04-18 07:10:48
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Tonosaurus'[/color] date='Apr 15 2009, 06:05 PM' post='601239']
Start of the thread: mortonjag trying to sound smart and witty.
End of the thread: everyone realises mortonjag is neither of the above.

Seems about right.

Good morning 'everyone', the thread has not ended.


Ipsa scientia potestas est. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-18 07:15:09 The weather forecast's good for this afternoon. I think Spoonsy will have a big sunny smile on his face when he scores the only and winning goal!

...or so the Monkey claims! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-18 07:22:50
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Apr 14 2009, 11:57 AM) [snapback]600937[/snapback]
That Rhyming Dictionary is paying for itself....

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If sex is becoming a bore
You'll need your position to lower
Fly over to Cuba
Take lessons in SCUBA
And shag on the Ocean Floor laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-18 07:25:28 Men, women, and children. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-18 07:28:21
QUOTE(forza ton @ Apr 18 2009, 02:26 AM) [snapback]601957[/snapback]
mmmmmmmmmmmm!! bring me hunners o valium cool.gif

I can give you a very large dose as soon as you wish darling! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-18 10:07:55
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 18 2009, 09:27 AM) [snapback]601973[/snapback]
Hilarious.

It's the way you tell 'em.

What do you give an elephant with diarrhoea? blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-18 10:11:04
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 18 2009, 09:40 AM) [snapback]601975[/snapback]
And you still reckon Irons will be leaving Cappielow in the summer if as you predict we go second today with 3 games remaining?



QUOTE(The Naitch @ Apr 18 2009, 10:02 AM) [snapback]601977[/snapback]
I'm still sad that he is leaving - after all, if Mortonjag said it then it must be true. sad.gif

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It has nothing to do with me. If Shoogly changes his mind-so be it. Sheep Lips is in a win win situation since Grady and McManus became the real coaches. His CV's getting better by the minute-indeed he may move on to a Premiership club! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-18 10:14:32
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 18 2009, 07:53 AM) [snapback]601971[/snapback]
And can you also get him valium? blink.gif

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mortonjag 2009-04-18 10:40:41
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Apr 18 2009, 10:36 AM) [snapback]601985[/snapback]

St Thomas will be handing out free legal advice in the big hoose! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-18 10:42:25
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Apr 18 2009, 10:40 AM) [snapback]601988[/snapback]
He's a p***k. smile.gif

...and a POUFFE!
mortonjag 2009-04-18 10:44:47
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Apr 18 2009, 10:41 AM) [snapback]601989[/snapback]
Will that include the soap?

He'll need that to lubricate his erse! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-18 10:46:23
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Apr 18 2009, 10:45 AM) [snapback]601992[/snapback]
Nah that was Testicle, so called due to the other wan freezing aff.

Sherpa Testicle to give him his full title.
mortonjag 2009-04-19 07:25:52 McCall must have though Christmas had come early. We deserved to win by a country mile and didn't get a single break. OK the quality of football was crap but Thistle were even worse than us! EVERY TIME we lose it's the same old cry of STRIKER-STRIKER -STRIKER, and every time win win our strikers are bloody marvellous. ph34r.gif

Yesterday, if we failed in any department, it was again in the inability of our wide players to deliver decent crosses on a regular basis.
mortonjag 2009-04-19 07:30:47
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Apr 18 2009, 11:58 PM) [snapback]602151[/snapback]
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What did they do to you-kidnap you outside the school gate? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-04-19 07:35:37
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Apr 18 2009, 05:41 PM) [snapback]602072[/snapback]
Our wide players are awful and our distribution of the ball was lazy at all times and of a distinctly 2nd Division standard when we were attacking. Thistle asked us to break them down and like against Airdrie, we failed to do so because we lack a creative edge.

as! wub.gif

I agree entirely BTW!
mortonjag 2009-04-19 07:53:56
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 14 2009, 09:35 AM) [snapback]600909[/snapback]
MJ, I'd suggest you give up on this ridiculous anti-manager vendetta. Our management team has done an excellent job this season despite a rather shaky start. Anyone with half a brain can see that after a year in post, they have now got us playing some decent football, and the occasional tactical errors that sometimes occurred earlier in the season (not as many as under the previous manager it has to be said!) are now few and far between. You can see that the players are enjoying their football a lot more, perhaps natural when in a winning team. There is absolutely no way that Mr Rae could reasonably dispense with the services of the current management team given the success that they have achieved and the palpable improvements in our performances. Those who were calling for DI's head after only a few games can presumably see now that he and DC are making solid progress. I reckon we have at last got a good manager after a lot of failures, and I suspect one who will take no nonsense from any of the players who try to step out of line.

So MJ, why don't you just shut the feck up unless you have something worthwhile to contribute?

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Mileson's deid, and he conned Alibi! laugh.gif

Sheep Lips' contract expires shortly. laugh.gif

Bawheid may be a pouffe laugh.gif

Alibi lives in Dumfries and has spoken to Sheep Lips. bouncy.gif
Mortonjag lives in Glasgow and has spoken to those in the know.

It is going to be a lovely day.

Cats like cream.

Douglas Rae is quite old.

Alistair Donald is very rich.

David Irons is an arrogant prat with no man management skills. shutup.gif

Jobbies only float if the fat content is high enough.

Rain falls downwards.

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mortonjag 2009-04-19 08:02:49
QUOTE(forza ton @ Apr 18 2009, 01:47 PM) [snapback]602020[/snapback]
u were doing well there until the last line. you have no sense of the rhythm required in limericks

Au contraire Mon Ami you have clearly no education in poetic licence, and little imagination.

To anyone with a smattering of poetic knowledge it will be obvious that 'Ocean' scans as having three syllables.

Try this with a little imagination!

There once was a man from Calcutta
Who had a terrible stutter
At breakfast he said
Pass the bread
And the butter. blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-05-02 08:51:57
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Apr 19 2009, 01:11 PM) [snapback]602244[/snapback]
b-b-b,b-b-b,better

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mortonjag 2009-05-02 09:05:33 Testing...testing...one two three-does the present generation remember any of the 'Good Ship Venus' rhymes?




'Twas on the good ship Venus
By God you should have seen us
The figurehead-a nude in bed
The mast, the Captain's penis.

The Bos'n's name was Carter
A legendary farter
When the wind wouldn't blow and the ship wouldn't go
They got Carter the farter to start'er

The Captain's wife was Mabel
A woman fit and able
She gave the crew their daily screw
Upon the mess room table

The Cabin boy Tim Topper
Was famous for his whopper


Forza may insert the next couplet


And up his arse for a stopper!

Jack Hawkins was the rigger
And his was even bigger
He tried to screw
A point two two
And some cunt pulled the trigger



etc.

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mortonjag 2009-05-02 09:26:18 St Johnstone 2 Morton 2 (Spoonsy, LEAFY)
mortonjag 2009-05-02 09:27:52
QUOTE(Yoda @ May 1 2009, 09:28 PM) [snapback]605202[/snapback]

Pre-senile dementia my Dear! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-05-03 07:33:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 3 2009, 05:31 AM) [snapback]605669[/snapback]
Gidday David,

So, you had a wee chat with mortonjag and his mates yesterday ??

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Mortonjag has no mates down Scapa way, Newt my old Queen. Mr Edwards sooks Buchanan's toffees and thinks AD is the Bogey Man.

Funny old game this football. Went up to Perth in beautiful sunshine hoping for only a decent performance and fully expecting Saints to win. We were under NO pressure so Sheep Lips played three up front and for a little while it almost worked, but Saints were miles ahead of us on technique and tactics. Derek McInnes (younger and less experienced than Mr Arrogance happy.gif ) started to stretch our back three with fast wing play-it was a danger sign which he didn't seem to see, and to make matters worse, early in the second half our midfield totally surrendered to them (wee Midge must have been laughing up his sleeve at the Old Shooglefud), as Jenkins sat out the whole ninety minutes! ph34r.gif McManus and Greacen ultimately succumbed to relentless pressure and started to make schoolboy mistakes.

What a waste of a lovely afternoon. Thank you Mr Irons, and thank you for one of the most frustrating seasons of ball humping keech I've ever seen.

Ewe may now pack your bags Sheep Lips. Mr Rae has the P45 waiting. Please remove the magnifying mirror from the dressing room wall, and close the door quietly behind ewe. Next season we'll be seeing some football at Cappielow. Enjoy the grass
mortonjag 2009-05-03 07:43:06
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ May 2 2009, 09:57 PM) [snapback]605630[/snapback]
Cheque for £477 arrived today from the insurance for the damagge to my Astra. I also got £25 for it from the scrappy. Quite good as I only paid £450 for it in the first place.

I bought a lovely rover 25 for £2000, 54 plate with 39,000 miles on the clock, metallic blue from a wummin in Lanark, it was love at first sight.

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Not a car buff then WDE! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-05-03 07:48:58
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 2 2009, 09:17 AM) [snapback]605308[/snapback]
Courtesy of the Sex Pistols ...

Oi Scurvies,listen to this then

It was on the good ship Venus
By Christ, you should've seen us
The figurehead was a wh*re in bed
And the mast, was a mammoth penis

The captain of this lugger
He was a dirty bugger
He wasn't fit to shovel s***
From one place to another

Chorus:
Friggin' in the rigging
Friggin' in the rigging
Friggin' in the rigging
There was f*** all else to do

The captain's name was Morgan
By Christ, he was a gorgon
Ten times a day sweet tunes he'd play
On his big ****ing organ

The first mate's name was Cooper
By Christ he was a trooper.
He jerked and jerked until he worked
Himself into a stupor

Chorus.......

Hold on give it some bollocks,bollocks,bollocks....

The second mate was Andy
By Christ, he had a dandy
Till they crushed his **** on a jagged rock
For cumming in the brandy

The cabin boy was Kipper
He was a ****ing nipper
He stuffed his ass with a broken glass
And circumcised the skipper

Chorus........

The Captain's wife was Mabel
To **** she was not able
So the dirty s***s, they nailed her tits
Across the bar room table

The Captain had a daughter
Who fell in deep sea water
And invited squeals and milk and eels
Around her sexual quarters

Friggin' in the rigging
Friggin' in the rigging
Friggin' in the rigging
There was f**k all else to do..



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I'd forgotten most of those TiD!


The boy stood on the burning deck
When all but he had fled
My God he cried, it's warmer here
Than in that cold wee bed

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mortonjag 2009-05-04 07:38:32
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 4 2009, 05:41 AM) [snapback]605883[/snapback]
Aye, that's what I said. Now away and take your pills, you'll feel the better for it.

You tell him Doc! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-05-04 07:43:16
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 4 2009, 01:14 AM) [snapback]605866[/snapback]
School playground for me. biggrin.gif

Just to add, it was about 10 oclock at night and with an adult female before i get any sarky paedo comments.

It's a shame you didn't like it and reverted to shaggin' the weans.
mortonjag 2009-05-06 06:02:55 Looks like the boys decided to reserve their first division wages for next year and then drop Sheep Lips in it!

No surprise there. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-05-06 06:12:59
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ May 5 2009, 02:50 PM) [snapback]606157[/snapback]
On a settee in some sort of cellar in one of those tenements in the west end. Pretty good it wis tae!

How much did he charge?
mortonjag 2009-05-14 10:56:13 Behind a large autoclave in the old RAI! blink.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-05-15 05:47:24
QUOTE(InverAlly @ May 14 2009, 01:35 PM) [snapback]608859[/snapback]
Did you stick your knob in the autoclave before or after you pumped him?

Both. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-05-15 05:50:39 Is Sheep Lips still the Manager?
mortonjag 2009-06-29 07:32:01
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jun 28 2009, 01:01 PM) [snapback]621433[/snapback]
The people who make it worthwhile checking in here,

The incomparable Mortonjag! Never a dull moment with the doc around, where are you Ernie? happy.gif


The original Manky. Who is this impersonator masquerading as the rabid mutt? Come back Manky...

Of course the originator of the thread that argumentative wee so and so CHC. (Snopes yer way oot o' that!)

TiD. His description of a former burdz Jack and Danny has continued to provide moments of inspiration!

Tam McB or Bam McT as ArklesTon preferred! The voice of sanity in a mad world, just don't ask any tricky chemistry questions! tongue.gif ArklesTon is missed too happy.gif

Mr Edwards for his wit and partnership with that weirdo in EK!

Weirdo in EK. A £30 gazebo and bowfin' £160 brogues? And he shows no shame when talking about East Kilbride!

WDE. What can I say? The workings of that mind leave me constantly amused! Every post a gem of eccentricity! laugh.gif

Boozy the Lycra clad Lothario, short and sweet usually very funny!

Puggsy cos he takes it on the chin ( and other places!) and "works" fur the cooncil,poor basturt!

Young Thrax my competitor for the affections of MrsT. Keeps me on my toes but you can't beat experience Thrax! Particularly experience with a car.....tongue.gif

Deego. Give him a drink and stand back! I want to see that happy.gif funny wee fecker too!

And who could forget MrsT wub.gif

You weren't in London recently were you gorgeous?



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Worry thee not Kenny me old mucker-the Jag has been extremely busy but shall return in time for Sheep Lips' next attempt to prove he's a football manager and has never read Mein Kampf! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-06-30 06:41:48
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jun 29 2009, 12:46 PM) [snapback]621665[/snapback]
hmmm, would you be referring to the same Davie Irons that you were so adamant would not even BE at Cappielow next season? dry.gif laugh.gif

I was referring to Sheep Lips.
mortonjag 2009-07-27 09:58:06 The only redeeming aspect of a game which was as dull as dishwater was the fact that the Sons were even more clueless than ourselves.

Shoogly's skint, Sheep Lips has had his contract extended, and for whatever reason AD's not ready to splash the cash. dry.gif

A long season looms ahead. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-07-28 07:11:03
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 27 2009, 11:08 AM) [snapback]629287[/snapback]
I am sure I passed you en route to Dumbarton in a new German motor with the same old number plates. I detected that you were sat behind the wheel with a fag dripping from your lips! What kind of example is that for a doctor to set??

As for the football, its not obvious where the goals are going to come from so I agree that we may be facing a long season!

The war ended almost 65 years ago my dear! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-07-28 09:56:13 We will win gloriously tonight and get humped on Saturday-that's Morton! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-07-28 11:41:37 Here's a message from the Chairman.

Best wishes come from Golden Casket
To Karen's groom-an orange basket
Tonight's the time for endless passion
May I commend the doggy fashion
Stay in the bar and blow your gasket
While Karen bares her all to Askit. wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-07-28 16:50:02
QUOTE(rafa the spic @ Jul 28 2009, 04:44 PM) [snapback]629636[/snapback]
Will be what, lose the Renfrewshire Cup, OMG how will we survive, unsure.gif

Oh yeah i remember

New stadium

New training ground/academy

All own by us

4 season in the SPL

No debt

2 1st div titles

Bells cup

And remind me how many of you have seen your club win the Scottish Cup

Oh yeah, we,ll gutted if we lose a pre season friendly ya dafties


No effin car park in feegie land-whoopy effin doo! ph34r.gif


mortonjag 2009-07-29 10:45:21
HMM!
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mortonjag 2009-07-29 10:51:06 Bye bye sheep lips! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-07-29 11:47:20 Casino is physically too light and lacks enough pace for the full back spot. He's very creative and would gel well with a PROPER left winger! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-07-31 07:12:25
QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Jul 29 2009, 08:30 PM) [snapback]630385[/snapback]
OR-who paid for the Midden's Stand? blush.gif
DDFR paid for the stand and the floodlights and will also pay for the installation.

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I used to pay for my sweeties with the pocket money I got from my Mummy! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-01 07:20:35
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 31 2009, 11:37 PM) [snapback]631116[/snapback]
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But how did your Mummy get the money to give to you?

From my rich Uncle Donald of course! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-01 08:08:52 My children say it will be a scoosh!
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HMM! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-01 08:13:35 ON TOPIC!

1/ Douglas Rae

2/ People who believe Douglas Rae

3/ Still only being in the First Division after six seasons! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-01 08:49:51 Griffiths is a class act and a country mile ahead of Jimbo who is several years older and still only saleable material as 'potential'-potential he's never been able to realise under Rae's crap managers.

Hopefully the boy will get the move he desperately needs. If we get £100,000, that old fart will be laughing all the way to the bank. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-01 08:59:07 I had a dog-his name was Bill
At times his deeds were somewhat ill.

That's poetry.

'Last post' --well they say the beauty is in the eye of the beholder!!! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-01 09:12:44 We need another striker like a bloody hole in the head. First and foremost we need a competent manager who can work out a way to supply our perfectly competent strikers! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-02 13:23:55 The best save their goalie had to make was from a potential own goal. Halliwell was, if anything, the busier keeper over the 90 minutes. McFarlane's goal was a screamer of a speculative shot which just happened to come good-I think that's the third goal of his professional career. Spoonsy, who was, is and always will be a striker, took his two chances well. Jimbo was anonymous, and Superkev was as frustrating as ever. Nobody really seemed to have a clue-Monti certainly gained no advantage from the 'ball played man' penalty- a CRAZY decision, though I suppose Winters had to listen to his demented assistant who also got Wakey booked for bugger all in a similar manner! Casino wasn't nearly as 'clued in' as against the Midden. It was just one of those games where nobody stood out-I'm afraid that as at Dumbarton, we looked pretty clueless against inferior opposition.

No doubt our 'manager' will have it all sorted out for the visit to Dundee! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-03 08:26:45 I imagine we'll contain them well until about 70 minutes when Leigh Griffiths will show Jimhaldino how to shoot and they will be ahead. Jon Newby will then miss in a 'one to one' with Rab Douglas, and Sheep Lips will go in a massive cream puff causing a revolution among the players! laugh.gif


Or something very similar. Leopards don't change their spots. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-08 08:16:03
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Aug 7 2009, 07:43 PM) [snapback]633216[/snapback]
I'm feeling a bit insane and might have a flutter-anyone seen good odds on us?

Next seasons odds are not available yet. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-10 07:59:43 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


I really enjoyed Saturday's game-Sheep Lips deserves full credit for that. His one and only ploy of preventing the others from scoring is working a treat, and let's all face it, Higgins' goal was a total fluke. rolleyes.gif

If Jimhaldino finally goes for that cool half million, and Superkev drops dead-WOW we could buy a couple of wingers and Spoonsy and Co. would think Christmas had arrived early-BUT WAIT- wingers are attacking players- nope I reckon our Managerial genius would squander the lot on more midfielders and central defenders! dry.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-10 08:09:26
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Aug 10 2009, 12:09 AM) [snapback]634275[/snapback]
Would like to retain his services unless we can get a replacement who can do the same as he can and possibly improve that side.

Whats happening with this Romanian mob, are they going to finalise the deal or did Jim not impress enough in the Plymouth Argyll game?

They apparently offered Shoogly 500,000 at Glasgow Green. He promptly pished his Kanga pants before realising they were talking in leus and not pounds. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-10 08:11:50
QUOTE(king_bob @ Aug 9 2009, 09:08 PM) [snapback]634164[/snapback]
After yesterdays game can anyone explain what Derek Collins role is at Cappielow?

He's Sheep Lips' official arse kisser and unofficial back stabber. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-10 08:49:01 I'd imagine an outsider (Mark McGhee for example) would be thinking-'If that Morton side could create chances in the box they'd be potential title material'.
mortonjag 2009-08-10 10:07:08 Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind. Davie's a good second division player. Let him get on with a career instead of pandering to his undoubted loyalty! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-11 08:37:16
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Aug 10 2009, 11:50 PM) [snapback]634799[/snapback]
Jenkins suffered a knock and wasn't fit to start according to Irons. He wasn't really dropped.

If he wasn't fit he shouldn't have been on the bench! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-11 08:39:21 Shoogly is very loyal to his well behaved children. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-11 09:01:00
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 10 2009, 11:10 PM) [snapback]634770[/snapback]
Is this the amazing thread that everyone has been talking about?

Im glad most of the oldies on here think im a c*nt and dont get my sense of humour now!

C*nts are useful! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-11 09:02:44 Check pm's! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-12 07:42:34
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Aug 11 2009, 08:30 PM) [snapback]635045[/snapback]
Shows ye how much I know about fitba - I thought we were playing 4-3-3 (that is what Derek told me anyway!) rolleyes.gif wink.gif laugh.gif

Donkey Derek obviously knows Hee Haw-you should have asked Sheep Lips. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-12 07:47:29 0-0 with Irons claiming we were denied five penalties and blaming Jon Newby/Chris Smith/Darren McGeough/Lee Mitchell/God, and the weatherman for his itchy piles. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-12 11:29:21
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Aug 11 2009, 10:49 AM) [snapback]634887[/snapback]
Sorry Doc never noticed (I never do).

I'll get back to you (may be a few days as i'm departing for Norway in a few hours)

Hopefully for a victory! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-12 11:42:30
QUOTE(Savo @ Aug 12 2009, 09:32 AM) [snapback]635197[/snapback]
My preference is for two men up front but that would require a new striker to partner Peter, so that's that knocked on the head for the moment (this is why the bizarre James Grady contract renewal baffles me). I continue to believe Brian Graham definitely has the potential to do something but feel he would be better introduced to first team affairs on a gradual basis.

So it looks like 4-5-1 for the meantime. As most of the folk have already said, the system and what you make of it comes down to personnel. The striker needs to have a bit of mobility and be able to hold the ball up for his runners to get beyond him. Peter can certainly do the second part very well.

You also have to make sure the wide men are not 30 yards away from the striker when he gets it. He needs support. You also need a midfielder prepared to push on and get beyond the frontman and we have that in Allan Jenkins when he is selected. The guy simply must start.

Getting a half decent winger at this level in, like say Gavin Swankie (even on loan) for instance, would also be a tremendous help to Weatherson and the team in general.

EXACTLY-neither Finlayson nor McAlister is fit to lick the boots of a proper winger-nor would a proper winger be expected to double up as midfielder and defender which is what they do so well and why they're favoured by Sheep Lips.

Everybody except the Pars is already ahead of us in the 'goals for', and it looks like this season's going to be much of the same unless we can find a way to supply our strikers. Spoonsy, Wakey, Graham, Russell, AND Grady are all capable of scoring at this level if enough chances are created in the box. How many saves did Bullock have to make on Saturday-and I don't mean just collecting the ball?


Therein lies our problem-staring us in the face from early last season and our managerial genius signed another defensive midfielder! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-12 11:56:47 True story.

'Phone rang about tea time last night and it went like this.

MJ - 'Hello'

Unknown male voice - 'Who am I speaking to'? (sounded rather suspicious)

MJ - 'Who would you like to speak to'?

Unknown male voice - 'My wife'!

MJ - 'You've got the wrong number' - and here's the funny bit -

Unknown male voice - 'Well you definitely don't sound like my wife, so I suppose I must have the wrong number', and he hung up, leaving me to have a wee smile as his sense of fun. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-12 12:01:05 Thoughts please! blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-12 13:29:59
QUOTE(Bawhirley Road @ Aug 12 2009, 12:27 PM) [snapback]635257[/snapback]
This will be my 45th season at Cappielow.

Our family have ghosts that hover around the stands.

My Great Grandfather was there in 1922.

The place on a Saturday is more than just a football match.

And I'm sure a lot of you will feel the same.

But is it just me or is the whole thing just becoming a tedius bore?

One man up front etc.

A squad of average ability.

But with little passion.

And any flair drummed out of them.

As fans we don't care about winning every game.

We know we won't

We've always been a team who have milked the last ounces of offerings from the past masters of the game.

We have always been where the new blood has been found and we watch with pride as they progress to higher things.

And along the way we would get the occasional thing to shout and enthuse about.

And that was fine.

We would look forward in anticipation all week.

And compare notes on a Monday.

But it's all a bit of a drag these days.

We can appreciate at times the strengths of Greacen and Shimmin.

McAllister going up the wing is a buzz.

But there is damn little else.

Is it just me????

This is my 50th season, and the buzz has certainly gone from Cappielow. It could so easily change though-even the signing of one exciting player gets the crowd going.

Irons can't/won't sort it-only one man can.
mortonjag 2009-08-12 13:41:23
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Aug 12 2009, 01:01 PM) [snapback]635271[/snapback]
Howdy fella, how you and the good lady keeping?

Plastic tits - never had the opportunity or the inclination to have a sook on them. I always prefer the real thing and the one's I is sooking are mighty damned fine for me!!!!

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On a more serious note my 'father in law' passed away yesterday afternoon. He was 63 and had been suffering from prostatic cancer.

That, however, has nothing to do with plastic tits and the tits who pay hard earned cash to pretend they're something they're not.

Come to think of it, I might stand outside the ladies' toilet at Scapa this Saturday with a big tattie stuffed down the front of my trousers-it would be worth it just to see Big Gillian's face! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-12 14:31:00
QUOTE(Bryan @ Aug 12 2009, 01:50 PM) [snapback]635315[/snapback]
just blow your smoke away from me ph34r.gif

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Are you a fan of plastic tits? blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-13 12:56:47 I do feel a bit sorry for the old fud. Unless he gets the balance right between expenditure on Cappielow and maintaining a decent fan base he'll be pan breid before we even sniff the SPL. blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-13 12:59:55
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Aug 12 2009, 08:35 PM) [snapback]635488[/snapback]
So sorry to hear about your loss pal. My Father-in-Law also passed away just over a month ago and it was not an easy time for any of us so my condolensces for your family, your good lady and yourself.

I already have two tatties down my troosers mate, don't think there is room for another one! It's just a good job the middle bit of my anatomy is similar size to an asparagus spear otherwise I would be in trouble.

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QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 12 2009, 11:24 PM) [snapback]635582[/snapback]
Sad to hear of your loss Doc.

Anyho, natural is best. I went out with a girl with HUGE boobies a while ago and they were fooking awesome.

Did you require a snorkel?
mortonjag 2009-08-15 08:57:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 15 2009, 08:09 AM) [snapback]636313[/snapback]
If that is correct delboy, many who post on here either have very poor memories and/or problems of an optical nature.

Many who post on here can't remember the last general election! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-15 09:09:49 Mortonjag's inside source informs him that the prosecution f*cked up.
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I can tell you all without fear of contradiction rolleyes.gif that even those who spent three years sifting through all the evidence for the SCCRC are still unsure about his guilt or innocence.

They are certain, however, that the actual verdict was based on flimsy circumstantial evidence.

I asked someone in the know the blunt question-'WAS he guilty'? He wouldn't commit himself but his look definitely said 'Yes'.

Guilty or not, he's costing us a fortune-get him to f*ck back to Libya. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-15 09:12:32
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 15 2009, 08:28 AM) [snapback]636318[/snapback]
Never mind. One of these days you might meet a nice girl when you are both sober. wink.gif

What do you think about plastic tits m'lady? blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-15 10:32:03 There is little doubt in official circles that an appeal would be successful, giving the Scottish Judicial system an extremely red face.

As I stated previously, those in the know DO believe in his probable guilt.

Guilty or not, he's genuinely very ill and his treatment and incarceration cost us megabucks. Best to let him go.
mortonjag 2009-08-15 10:36:34
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 15 2009, 09:42 AM) [snapback]636332[/snapback]
They are horrible, can spot a false set a mile off. I'm quite happy with my natural DD's. wink.gif ph34r.gif

I agree wholeheartedly.

Oh, and BTW, any time things are weighing you down give old jaggy a call and he'll help you to get a load off your chest! shutup.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-15 10:41:30 I would drop Jimbo and Finners and play Casino and LEAFY as wingers, with Spoonsy as before. We've plenty of defensive players-take your pick of the rest- though I'd definitely have Walker in for McGregor and Jenkins starting.
mortonjag 2009-08-16 08:56:53 Dear Sheep Lips,

I stumbled across this little snippet of information this morning, and just to make it easy for you, I've highlighted the parts you may find helpful.


Association football, more commonly known as football or soccer, is a team sport played between two teams of eleven players using a spherical ball. Association football is the most popular football variant worldwide, and is widely considered to be the most popular sport in the world.
The game is played on a rectangular grass or artificial turf field, with a goal in the centre of each of the short ends. The object of the game is to score by driving the ball into the opposing goal. In general play, the goalkeepers are the only players allowed to use their hands or arms to propel the ball; the rest of the team usually use their feet to kick the ball into position, occasionally using their torso or head to intercept a ball in midair. The team that scores the most goals by the end of the match wins.


Now Sheep Lips, let me expand a little-just in case you don't understand what I'm getting at.

1/ If you prevent the other side from scoring-no matter how brilliantly you play-you still have to score to win.

2/ If the other side scores a goal first, you have to score two goals to win, which means that you have to try to drive the ball into the opposing goal twice. This is commonly perceived to be more difficult than doing it once.

3/ The men who most commonly score goals are called goal scorers or strikers. In order to drive the ball into the opposing goal, they require to touch the ball. The more often they touch the ball, the more likely they are to score a goal. If they don't manage to touch the ball during a game they will fail to score a goal.

4/ Strikers most commonly manage to touch the ball with their heads (known as heading the ball) when it is driven across the goal area allowing them to run forward and make contact. When strikers receive many of those 'crosses' during a game, they are more likely to drive the ball into the opposing goal.

5/ Another way for strikers to get a touch on the ball is by running forward onto a 'through' pass-a ball skilfully weighted and directed between defending players but short of the goalkeeper. The more through passes a striker receives during a game, the more likely he is to drive the ball into the opposing net.

6/ A third way in which strikers sometimes score goals is when a team member drives a long 'speculative' ball into the opposing side's penalty box (no Sheep Lips-that has nothing to do with The Mass), and they manage to touch it first. I do apologise if you are already acquainted with this method.

So you see Sheep Lips, it's all so simple-you only have to get those strikers touching their balls time after time during a match and the world will be your octopus.

mortonjag 2009-08-16 14:44:26
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 15 2009, 07:15 PM) [snapback]636578[/snapback]
I actually sympathise with the players. The team is a shambles, there's no shape to it, no cohesion or pattern and it has to drain the confidence from the players when they have to shuffle around a vague area of the pitch and hope for the best.

Who on earth was meant to be playing on the right today? What exactly was MacAlister's role? Why was Monti on.

It's a joke, we have decent enough players for the most part but it's unrealistic to expect anything out of the ordinary for them when they're in the charge of someone as hopelessly incompetent as Irons.

I agree-I didn't think any one of them was particularly bad (or good) yesterday. They are simply obeying instructions.

QUOTE(axeman @ Aug 15 2009, 08:11 PM) [snapback]636646[/snapback]
Six straight league defeats & an absolutely shambolic combination of team selection & "tactics", this is sacking material. mad.gif

Mr Rae needs to sign a new manager! smile.gif

QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Aug 16 2009, 12:06 AM) [snapback]636838[/snapback]
i have absolutely none in Irons.

I am not suggesting sacking him
, but i have never seen a manager who appears to still be unaware of were he should be playing players and formations that work with the squad he has. to be honest, irons has produced some of the worst displays of football ive watched morton play.

i would rather get gubbed 4 - 0. with a team that is out to try to win, than one that appears not to bother... his motivation works dinnit.

You are too kind! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-16 14:46:02
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 16 2009, 11:11 AM) [snapback]636989[/snapback]
Defeinsively he is as good as anyone we have got. But he is very short of pace and his distribution is woeful.
If by giving him a contract means we cannot sign someone else then that's an incredibly bad decision.

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mortonjag 2009-08-16 14:58:20
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Aug 16 2009, 11:33 AM) [snapback]636996[/snapback]
Could you be a bit more specific MJ biggrin.gif

My pleasure Willy Man.

Irons is pure keech. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-17 16:06:26
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 16 2009, 07:23 PM) [snapback]637245[/snapback]
I'd like to see Mortonjag meet DI face to face and say to him the sort of abuse he pours out on this forum. I reckon Ernie hasn't got the guts. I reckon it would end up in a wee bout of fisticuffs and I'd be prepared to put money on Mortonjag ending up being the one with sheep lips, plus a cauliflower ear and a couple of black eyes.

:unsure:How about it, Ernie? Are you hard enough?
Thought not.

Why does one have to be 'hard' to say what one thinks? Are those Dumfries rules or something? rolleyes.gif

I'd have absolutely no problem telling DI TO HIS FACE that I think his managerial qualities are sadly lacking. You might be right about me getting a sore face mind you-he's already proven that he can't take criticism and blames others at the drop of a hat.

Don't you worry Alibi my old friend-this is simply a reincarnation of the JM scenario-two or three more defeats and my comments will look very tame indeed! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-18 09:24:54
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 18 2009, 09:06 AM) [snapback]637676[/snapback]
Wow ! if you can't see the party political aspect of this whole stinking deal then you surprise me Alibi. And that is not a jibe at the SNP by the way, it would equally apply to whoever was in power.

There is no way that there isn't a quid pro quo aspect of this - and anyone who thinks the Americans are REALLY, and HONESTLY upset about us letting him go, are more naive than the people they purport to represent.

This whole deal is being done at the behest of the Americans, with the Scottish legal system being chosen as the appropriate fall guy for them to blame when we do what they asked us.

But hey, thats politics.

TonInDublin

If the truth be told TiD, the Scottish Legal System will be delighted to be rid of this hot potato. I'm not giving away any official secrets by telling you that my son was one of the team of three at the SCCRC who ultimately recommended that the conviction had been unsafe. That conclusion doesn't confirm that Megrahi was innocent, and I've gained the impression that they believe he was at least involved at some stage. The prosecution, however, appear to have made a massive c*ck up with the ultimate conviction based on flimsy circumstantial evidence.
mortonjag 2009-08-18 09:33:56
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 17 2009, 07:02 PM) [snapback]637534[/snapback]
That's it exactly. Mortonjag is entitled to an opinion as to whether or not DI is a good manager, but his rather tedious and repetitive references to livestock undermine any validity that his opinions might carry.

I'm terribly sorry if you find my allusions to your buddy's labial qualities offensive.

I've stated repeatedly that sheep have beautiful lips-indeed many are entranced by a winsome ovine smile and sheep shagging is, I believe, relatively common doon hame. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-18 10:26:41
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 18 2009, 10:12 AM) [snapback]637684[/snapback]
I think you may be confusing Dumfries with Aberdeen, but clearly you have personal experience of sheep. In fact you have a bit of a sheep fixation, don't you? I think you need psychiatric help.

You are quite correct. I have never denied it! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-19 06:58:00 Look at the bigger picture Dougie. Mr Irons is now a managerial and financial liability. He's got to desperation stage and is picking players at random as in JM's latter days. That's a sure sign that he hasn't a clue.

We quietly slipped out of yet another cup run last night (more potential income gone) and Ayr must be HOT favourites for Saturday's game. That's not what you wanted Dougie, and certainly not what the fans expected from this new 'manager'. Our beloved Greenock Morton is becoming the laughing stock of the first division. Seven defeats on the trot to equivalent opposition is to say the least a huge embarrassment. That is down to one man.

Worst of all Dougie, you know and I know that the players can't abide him, and only really turn it on when it suits their own ends. In that respect, I'd guess Jimbo will play a cracker against Killie.

Dougie, I know you intended to dump him in the summer, and I don't know what went wrong, but for the sake of the fans, the club, and your own health, please remember your very own comment about football 'sadly being a results driven business', and please take my advice, which I've given you in every post this season.

You will find it again below.

Can you afford NOT TO Dougie?

mortonjag 2009-08-19 10:41:13 Even if our players were totally 'up for it' the squad is imbalanced and lacks men in key positions. We have no natural full backs and no natural wingers, and that can no longer be blamed on JM's bizarre ideas. McFarlane's a competent enough player but paying a wage to yet another midfield grafter when we desperately needed width is a measure of Irons blinkered approach.

If you're playing unattractive football and winning I guess it's hard to dispense with a manager's services, but DI is currently losing money hand over fist for the club with the crap he serves up.

Undoubtedly long past TTG! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-19 13:24:55
QUOTE(cmdc @ Aug 18 2009, 12:46 PM) [snapback]637739[/snapback]
Gordon Newall? I don't know him personally, but I recognise the name from some work I did a while back for the Centre for the Study of Terrorism and Political Violence.

I have a son of that name! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-19 13:26:40
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Aug 11 2009, 10:49 AM) [snapback]634887[/snapback]
Sorry Doc never noticed (I never do).

I'll get back to you (may be a few days as i'm departing for Norway in a few hours)

Where are you Barbie? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-19 16:21:20
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 18 2009, 01:09 PM) [snapback]637748[/snapback]
I take everything he says with a very large pinch of salt, the type a doctor wouldn't recommend!

We have to remember, Iron's isn't the manager now in jagland.

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mortonjag 2009-08-20 07:13:18
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Aug 19 2009, 09:24 PM) [snapback]638618[/snapback]
Have you checked your cellar lately rolleyes.gif

I haven't been down all summer Willy Man-sometimes it becomes dead boring. biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-20 07:27:49
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 19 2009, 11:41 PM) [snapback]638677[/snapback]
I say again, Megrahi was found guilty of mass murder by a Scottish court. He withdrew his appeal, in effect admitting his guilt. Why release him?

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Have you any idea how many convictions by 'A Scottish Court' are overturned every year Mr Edwards?

Not like you to sink to Procrustean depths to further your agenda! laugh.gif They withdrew his appeal because the guy will be pan breid LONG before it it would ever have been heard.



.....oh and those who know it would have been successful still believe he was involved in some way. Every profession's morality becomes prostituted when political scumbags are involved. Megrahi may well be guilty but his conviction was rushed through on the flimsiest of circumstantial evidence.

Innocent until PROVEN guilty Mr Edwards, and an appeal would have shown he was NOT proven guilty.
mortonjag 2009-08-20 07:33:48 Good gracious, at this stage in his managerial spell with Morton, even JM still had the full confidence of 75% of pollsters.

...and remember what happened then!

Bye bye Sheep Lips! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-20 07:40:37 Shoogly's a tough old boot. His popularity on this forum is cyclical and right now he's doing pretty well. The fly old dodger's done a good job in convincing many to accept the unacceptable.

Roll up, roll up and watch the creation of our super duper new SPL stadium ( elastoplast all over Crappielow's wounds) and leave our 'Manager' to secure relegation. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-21 06:35:00
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Aug 20 2009, 09:09 AM) [snapback]638741[/snapback]
Excavating. wink.gif

Been rather busy at work since the Scotland game, I will find the time though.

OK Digger! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-21 06:58:08 Edd's post details the flimsy evidence on which Megrahi was convicted. The SCCRC recommended that the conviction had been unsafe. Megrahi's appeal has been deferred for an inordinate length of time-WHY?

A point clearly missed by many posters is that his conviction (even if he WAS guilty) shames the Scottish legal system.

It is entirely possible that Megrahi IS innocent-a 57 year old man, father and husband- rotting to death in a Scotish prison from advanced prostatic carcinoma .

Given that possibility, his release will please God, Allah, and all fair minded folk.
mortonjag 2009-08-21 07:07:17
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 20 2009, 01:24 PM) [snapback]638834[/snapback]
As usual, your posts are about as useful as a pogo stick to a kangaroo

I like Newt's posts. I'm impressed by intelligence and literacy.

You continually fail to impress, PD. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-21 10:04:35 'Give us the tools, and we will finish the job'.
mortonjag 2009-08-21 10:12:13
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 12 2009, 05:40 PM) [snapback]635381[/snapback]
In the spirit of the ladies with super glue.

Great balls of fire.

Cretan singes cretin's minges!
mortonjag 2009-08-21 11:06:45
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 21 2009, 10:56 AM) [snapback]639202[/snapback]
I thought you'd have noticed the tools standing on the touchline shouting and pointing ? rolleyes.gif

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If we're thinking of the same implements I'd suggest that 'standing' might be replaced by'reciprocating' or some similar euphemism.
mortonjag 2009-08-21 12:25:47 £100 o.n.o.

Price new £450
mortonjag 2009-08-21 12:52:46 Prediction time - since nobody else is interested enough. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-21 13:25:43 He hasn't exactly got a broken leg-could still play IMO.
mortonjag 2009-08-21 13:27:39
QUOTE(Bryan @ Aug 21 2009, 01:26 PM) [snapback]639271[/snapback]
depends what it is Dr.

Beeturia perhaps! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-21 13:31:49
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Aug 21 2009, 01:28 PM) [snapback]639275[/snapback]
Aye maybe it's just something minor like cancer. I'm sure if he's passing blood he's more important things to worry about and it doesn't take a Dr to to figure out that he's best rested until the cause is determined incase of any further injury or complication.

He could still play IMO.

No further comment. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-21 16:52:07
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 19 2009, 01:50 PM) [snapback]638406[/snapback]
I see Glasgow City Council are considering cutting the number of Orange parades due to the costs involved.
Strathclyde Police said it cost nearly £1M to cover 3 events in July.

I wonder how much it costs Inverclyde Council to police Orange walks ?

Although I don't agree with them they probably have the right to stage events.
Why do they need to march through streets ? Could we not just put them in the Battery Park and let them march round it all day if they want to ?


Cheap at the price!
mortonjag 2009-08-21 19:51:45
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 21 2009, 07:47 PM) [snapback]639401[/snapback]
It's funny that these rumours seemed to disappear when we were winning last season.

You don't half read some pish on here these days.

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It's common knowledge that the players think Sheep Lips is a tube darling. Where have you been hiding? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-21 20:02:15
QUOTE(Morton4Me @ Aug 21 2009, 07:07 PM) [snapback]639394[/snapback]
Edd,

My point exactly. The facts are, the evidence put before three Scottish judges under Scottish law was enough to find him guilty of mass murder. Released on compassionate grounds by a Scottish politician.

Do you know Megrahi served approx 10 days for each murder?

If he was going to be free'd, it should have come through the courts by ways of an appeal and not a poiticians
pardon.

Just my tuppence worth

The fact is that after three years of painstaking research the SCCRC recommended that the conviction had been unsafe!

Judges get it wrong-perhaps more often when it is expedient so to do. dry.gif

I hasten to add that I believe Megrahi may well have been involved at some stage, but an appeal against his conviction as THE murderer would almost certainly have been successful.
mortonjag 2009-08-21 20:05:26
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 21 2009, 07:54 PM) [snapback]639404[/snapback]
Just because you don't like him doesn't mean that others think the same...

I was talking about the players not liking him. I take it you have evidence to the contrary!
mortonjag 2009-08-21 20:07:54
QUOTE(leyTON @ Aug 21 2009, 08:02 PM) [snapback]639408[/snapback]
how hard is it for people to comprehend that he would be dead before an appeal concluded?

....and that the appeal has cleverly been stalled for months on end!
mortonjag 2009-08-22 07:20:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 21 2009, 10:32 PM) [snapback]639452[/snapback]
I understand that MJ was quite happy with Messrs Stewart, Rooney and McGraw.


Piehole is an accomplished liar, and a virgin to boot, Newt. laugh.gif

I thought 'Cowboy' had us playing some exciting football. Even JM (whose head I was FAR from the first to call for), signed a true attacking winger in Andy McLaren.

Sometimes you have to spend to save, and I reckon paying off Mr Irons right now would prove to be an investment in the longer term.
mortonjag 2009-08-22 07:35:17
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 21 2009, 08:15 PM) [snapback]639414[/snapback]
As the accuser the onus is on you to provise evidence, not the other way round. I assume it's in the same box of make-believe with 'Davie Irons will not be Morton manager after his contract expires in the summer'.

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I'm accusing nobody.

My inevitably accurate sources indicate that Sheep Lips is a self obsessed and intolerant bully who is universally despised by the players.

The latest of many sources was Darren McGeough's uncle whom I met by chance at a funeral on Monday. I'm able to mention that because the youngster is no longer with Morton.

I think players perform better for a Manager whom they respect-only one reason why we should ditch Irons pronto.

As for your 'make believe' comment, my source-albeit indirectly-was Douglas Rae. Time will prove that Mortonjag is never wrong. wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-22 07:44:00
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 22 2009, 07:28 AM) [snapback]639506[/snapback]
Gidday MJ,

Well, the last thing that DDFR wants is relegation.

No value in having a SPL compliant ground and playing in the second division.

How far behind can we afford to fall before the relegation play offs become a possibility ?

I am fully aware that this afternoon is only the third league match of the season.

However, we have lost 6 league matches in a row.

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I suspect we'll lose today. A JM style witch hunt may well beckon! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-22 07:48:33
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 21 2009, 06:53 PM) [snapback]639389[/snapback]
But why not? I'm not having a go but if they are earning the same as others then surely they can contribute the same. The facilities for everyone else aren't exactly tip top.

'Having a go' is the raison d'etre of Poison Dwarves. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-22 07:51:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 22 2009, 07:46 AM) [snapback]639513[/snapback]
If you are NEVER wrong, why did you need to edit your post ?

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I didn't-I chose to do so! wink.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-22 07:54:40
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 22 2009, 07:48 AM) [snapback]639514[/snapback]
For a manager you knew for certain wasn't going to be here now laugh.gif

Perhaps I should have known better than to trust Mr Rae. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-22 09:43:44 Arse banditry is a sin according to the Holy Bible, yet the Church of Scotland has just ordained an openly gay minister causing widespread controversy among God's children.

I fully accept that gay people should have entirely equal rights with those of 'proper' sexual orientation, and indeed have no objection in principle to gay ministers or priests , but would it not have been better to deal with matters more discreetly? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-22 12:08:49
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Aug 22 2009, 11:45 AM) [snapback]639580[/snapback]
It'll have been very well used, given the current ownership! laugh.gif

Entirely predictable as always.
mortonjag 2009-08-22 12:20:50 When it comes to out of favour players and their injuries, Sheep Lips demonstrates as much imagination as he lacks in tactics and man management. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-23 08:02:47
QUOTE(delboy66 @ Aug 23 2009, 01:46 AM) [snapback]639996[/snapback]
where are all the mr irons bashers tonite. its great what a win can do. not a great display but a win. is a win. well done guys & d.i.also or can i say that. COME ON YE TON.

I was in my wee bed dear, just as I imagine you'll still be in yours for hours to come! laugh.gif

Yesterday's result had f*ck all to do with Sheep Lips and more to do with Ayr (who were by far the more inventive in attack) having pretty rotten luck. They had two certain goals stopped by the woodwork, McGregor contrived to hook a remarkable clearance off the line, almost every 50/50 ball seemed to go in our favour in our half, and Spoonsy snapped up a couple of half chances proving beyond doubt that he IS a striker -not that anybody EVER suggested otherwise! rolleyes.gif

Nope delboy6-- nothing to do with Sheep Lips. Yet again when we were one goal up and Ayr had lost a bit momentum he got them playing defensively when another goal would have clinched it. I guess it has to work once in a while! laugh.gif

His tactics are abysmal. The fates were kind to us yesterday and I'm delighted we won. Full credit to the players who bothered to put in a shift, with a special mention to Neil McF for his 'comedy gold' one on one with Grindlay, and to Jenks for finishing off our best move with a 'get that up you Irons' shot which skimmed the outside of the post, when he looked sure to score! unsure.gif

So credit where due-Thank you Spoonsy, thank you referee, thank you woodwork, and a special thank you to Lady Luck.

And Sheep Lips gan 'gtf' any time he likes! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-23 11:42:19
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Aug 22 2009, 02:42 PM) [snapback]639633[/snapback]
Is he banging in the pulpit or have I missed something?

blush.gif That perhaps puts a new concept to Bible thumping!

QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 22 2009, 09:56 PM) [snapback]639937[/snapback]
The same part of the bible says that beef stroganoff and prawns are verbotten. huh.gif

I don't think that gentle Jesus worries about consenting adults.

Nor do I, though the rider 'in private' normally follows.

I suppose that what I'm really suggesting is that if the C of S is happy to ordain an openly gay minister it would do well to make an announcement to its frequently homophobic followers assuring them that gaiety is divine.
mortonjag 2009-08-24 07:42:29
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 24 2009, 07:08 AM) [snapback]640368[/snapback]
Leave Davie alone you bully.
Oh God, not another one with 'connections'. "Say that again about Irons and they're will be claret all over the place, I've got connections". Fortunately these 'connections' will no doubt turn out to be as reliable as Douglas Jag's and Spot On's (or whatever his 'name' is) and will boil down to having spent 5 minutes chatting to Andy Brian once about 15 years ago.

Personally I think Irons is the best manager we've had since Benny Ronney. His record speaks for itself.

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mortonjag 2009-08-24 07:48:07
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Aug 23 2009, 12:04 PM) [snapback]640088[/snapback]
If the hat fits....

The rules of religion are as adaptable and bent as those of football.

Are you calling Craig Thomson a pouffe? blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-24 08:55:04 Piece on dripping

Piece on jam

Piece on cheese


Roll on sausage/slice/whatever!
mortonjag 2009-08-24 09:00:50 I guess it's going to be a real test of our strength, and I'm assuming the lads will be up for this one. I reckon we'll play well and give them a good game but honestly can't see us winning. Our defence has looked a bit shaky recently, and let's face it, we ain't very good in the goal getting department.

My prediction:

Killie 2 Ton 0 blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-24 09:07:17 Alex was sitting in the stand at Somerset Park. Guess he must be wondering exactly what he did wrong. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-24 09:08:37
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 24 2009, 09:05 AM) [snapback]640384[/snapback]
Piece on nonsense, the whole thing.

Of! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-24 18:00:48
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 24 2009, 01:25 PM) [snapback]640440[/snapback]
I can't make it, as was with the Hibs game...so clearly a Morton win! sad.gif



London again PD? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-24 18:08:29
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Aug 24 2009, 04:42 PM) [snapback]640500[/snapback]
Totally agree, and in most areas of his life he'll be allowed to do so.

Unfortunately, not on this bloody board tho....... dry.gif

Total PISH to say he's 'innocent'.

Total PISH to say Gerrard was 'innocent'.

Total PISH to say Megrahi was 'guilty'.

The law is an ass.

I'm wondering if maybe Casino is guilty of giving some c*nt a well deserved hiding. If so-good on the boy! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-24 18:15:14
QUOTE(edd @ Aug 24 2009, 06:04 PM) [snapback]640517[/snapback]
and a good, strong decision it made too.

it would have been so easy to deny his application due to the forseeable backlash from the UK government and the US - can you imagine gordon brown making a decision like this? - but regardless, the decision was made according to the laws of scotland and scotland alone.

i know that's irrelevant if you disagree with kenny macaskill's decision, but i think he made the right decision and kudos to him for having the balls to make it in spite of the forseeable backlash.

I sincerely believe that had there been the slightest chance of his appeal failing, Megrahi would still be in Gateside.

It's a massive 'cop out' to save embarrassment to the Scottish legal system, and without a grain of true compassion.

The right decision's been made for a very wicked reason IMO.
mortonjag 2009-08-25 06:26:07
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 24 2009, 08:52 PM) [snapback]640603[/snapback]
I would respectfully suggest that all coitus should be done where it will not frighten children or horses.

Presumably not in a stable relationship!
mortonjag 2009-08-25 06:47:52
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 24 2009, 11:09 PM) [snapback]640650[/snapback]
Facts? What facts? Very few have emerged I'd say, certainly very few that are convincing. I'm with Ms. MacDonald; the case for release is as uncertain[b] as the case for conviction. Both should be investigated.[/b]

That was what the appeal was to be about Mr Edwards! blink.gif Three years of painstaking investigation by three members of the SCCRC has already been submitted to the powers that be.

On their recommendation Megrahi would undoubtedly have been released on appeal, and could have sued for a fortune over his wrongful conviction.

The Scottish legal system 'won a watch' when his prostatic carcinoma came to light and all this stuff about 'terminal', having 'only three months left' etc. is a bit of a red herring. I've seen folk with cancer die in two weeks when I thought they'd last for months, and I'd one lady patient with 'terminal' breast cancer (her oncologist's description) who lasted another SEVEN years!

I'm convinced Megrahi was released PRIMARILY to save face.

One thing's for sure - show me a truly compassionate politician, and I'll show you a video of Megrahi /George Galloway /that clown Abomo, planting the Lockerbie bomb.
mortonjag 2009-08-25 06:54:09
QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 25 2009, 12:31 AM) [snapback]640662[/snapback]
You'd have thought a former doctor would be the last person to say stuff like that bearing in mind some of the stuff he'll likely have seen.

Alas, not the case with the jag. Poor taste Ernie, very poor taste sad.gif .

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Oh dear children-sometimes you all take old jaggy too seriously!
mortonjag 2009-08-26 05:56:40
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 25 2009, 10:59 PM) [snapback]641110[/snapback]
Irons is ok.
We could end up with much worse given Rae's record.
We desperately need some players. Our squad is threadbare!

Our bench tonight... Wake, MacGregor, Monti, Erik... Davie Wylie!!

Says it all. One decent defender, squad players and a 16 stone silver fox!

Wakey is a striker piehole-hadn't you noticed. McGregor has done NOTHING to justify his selection over Alex Walker-nothing except being the good little local boy model pro-and I'm not getting at Davie himself. The team selection stinks. We couldn't end up 'much worse'-Sheep Lips is a liability. The players hate his guts, and heaven knows why he's still here as Mr Rae was DEFINITELY going to bin him in the summer. You say we need more players-that takes money and we're now out of yet another cup this season.

What's that- we were playing an SPL side??!!!!!


Aye son, I know that.

And your point is.......? dry.gif mad.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-26 16:10:59
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 25 2009, 05:38 PM) [snapback]640887[/snapback]
Except when it's alter boys? unsure.gif

I imagine sex change is heathen too! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-26 16:20:09 Section 169 - Highway Code
Do not hold up a long queue of traffic, especially if you are driving a large or slow-moving vehicle. Check your mirrors frequently, and if necessary, pull in where it is safe and let traffic pass.

There used to be a charge of 'failing to make due progress'. I'm not sure if that still applies.
mortonjag 2009-08-26 16:31:42 Mr McArthur has always described Sheep Lips as 'The Snake'. I must confess I don't see anything athetoid in his demeanour, but his lips are a pure joy to the sheep shagger. biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-26 16:35:00 I find bounce ups very entertaining.
mortonjag 2009-08-27 05:09:51
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 26 2009, 11:23 PM) [snapback]641503[/snapback]
I thought that, by and large, men's jobbies were more inclined to float as men's are generally looser and contain more air whereas women compact their's more before excretion so that they usually sink. Hence the reason that your sons always smelled much worse than your daughters!

Source? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-27 05:15:40
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Aug 26 2009, 07:38 PM) [snapback]641428[/snapback]
What exactly has MacGregor done wrong to deserve to lose his place? Against Dunfermline he never put a foot wrong all afternoon.

It's what he does with the other one that worries me.
mortonjag 2009-08-27 05:21:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 27 2009, 04:18 AM) [snapback]641560[/snapback]
http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/sport/m...-classy-killie/
Irons was realistic in his post-match assessment.

He said: "I felt we equipped ourselves very well but we lacked a wee bit of quality at times and Kevin Kyle is a real menace.
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Is he praising the Ton's new kit ?

Or did he mean to say "acquitted" ?

Neither Newt. All Sheep Lips' messages come in code. The secret is to wear ear muffs and lip read.
mortonjag 2009-08-27 05:24:00 Thistle 1 Morton 1

Boredom 5 Entertainment 0 laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-27 05:59:23
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 27 2009, 05:57 AM) [snapback]641565[/snapback]
Maybe he's a Mason.

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In which case maybe AD does like him!
mortonjag 2009-08-27 21:20:44
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 27 2009, 06:44 PM) [snapback]641756[/snapback]
Ach she was a classy bird wub.gif

Burds are NOT classy son. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-27 21:36:05


QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Aug 27 2009, 08:44 PM) [snapback]641812[/snapback]
Do you what causes even more unrest? Spreading stuff like this across messageboards. Especially when there is absolutely no content as to why this may be the case.

I really, REALLY think you should just not post at all unless you have some sort of information and details. Saying that you have heard that it is definitely true that things are not cosy right now just fans the flames of the burning steak with Irons' name on it.

It is absolutely true son. I agree with you that folk shouldn't spread rumours, but there is overwhelming evidence in support of the original poster's statement. Disbelieve him if you like but don't call a fellow poster a liar unless you have proof to the contrary.

QUOTE(xj2006 @ Aug 27 2009, 08:47 PM) [snapback]641815[/snapback]
totally agree with this

posts like the original one only serve to undermine the manager even further....

players can be dicks too... how do we know it is not their fault?

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Because Sheep lips' personality had been moulded before most of them were born! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-27 21:41:52
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Aug 27 2009, 09:39 PM) [snapback]641841[/snapback]
I didn't call anyone a liar. I would just like the name of a source or any other form of evidence before I start worrying about it.
You're nothing if not predictable dear Jag. laugh.gif

Do you believe the original poster is incorrect, and if so, why? smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-27 21:49:01
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Aug 27 2009, 09:44 PM) [snapback]641845[/snapback]
No, I believe the OP is stating exactly what he has heard.

Why are you disputing its veracity?
mortonjag 2009-08-27 22:01:27 Hmm-funny how other people's opinions get folk so upset! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-27 22:05:34
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Aug 27 2009, 09:59 PM) [snapback]641852[/snapback]
It is, thus far, unsubstantiated. I also believe that even if it is true, which I suspect it could be, the support in general have no right to know unless the club wishes that it be so.

As I've said, spreading rumours or information like this, true or false, is damaging and dividing supporters of the club.

I take it that statement can be substantiated.
mortonjag 2009-08-27 22:08:42
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Aug 27 2009, 10:06 PM) [snapback]641856[/snapback]
Do you believe that I am incorrect, and if so, why? smile.gif

I believe you are incorrect in suggesting that the fans are not entitled to know the truth.
mortonjag 2009-08-27 22:12:39
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Aug 27 2009, 10:10 PM) [snapback]641858[/snapback]
do you think we should all believe everything we read on the internet without suspicion?

are you really that naive?

Everything on the internet is about Sheep Lips being an unpopular bully! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-27 22:15:00
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Aug 27 2009, 10:13 PM) [snapback]641860[/snapback]
Fans twist the truth and act most distastefully with it. I hope never to be in the midst of a vicious atmosphere like those at Dumbarton and the 4-1 loss to Stenny again.

The truth IS the truth son! blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-27 22:20:55
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 27 2009, 10:15 PM) [snapback]641862[/snapback]
laugh.gif I'm no Irons fan either but the above is spot on.

Wtf do they want, a glossy invitation each Wednesday, sealed with a loving kiss?

Do you think he'd get the best out of a totally different squad? Has he just been unlucky? I totally agree with you that the 'boss' in any situation may well be unpopular, but a boss who is unpopular AND fails to achieve eventually stops being the boss!
mortonjag 2009-08-27 22:23:06
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 27 2009, 10:17 PM) [snapback]641865[/snapback]
Hypothetically if some headcase came on the internet and said that Davie Irons would be out of a job come summer, only for him to be found occupying the bench several weeks into the new season, should future statements from said nutbar be treated with unconfined credulity?

The truth will out my dear. You clearly are not privy to the inner sanctum!
mortonjag 2009-08-27 22:37:52
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 27 2009, 10:23 PM) [snapback]641870[/snapback]
The truth that Irons was sacked in summer?

I must say, he's doing a bloody good job of keeping that one under wraps, showing up and managing the team.

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mortonjag 2009-08-27 22:50:04
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 27 2009, 10:24 PM) [snapback]641871[/snapback]
Boring.

In agreement at last SPARROT-I never thought I'd see the day. laugh.gif

Whom would you select as his replacement?
mortonjag 2009-08-27 22:56:03
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 27 2009, 10:53 PM) [snapback]641883[/snapback]
I was more thinking of replacing you with a stuffed monkey, or your modem with a wedge of Double Gloucester.

We are interchangeable!
Anyway-to serious matters-do you believe what the original poster stated?
mortonjag 2009-08-27 23:03:18
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 27 2009, 10:58 PM) [snapback]641886[/snapback]
I have absolutely no reason to believe it, or anything on this forum, without at least one credible source to support it.

And have you at least one credible source to support your agnosticism?
mortonjag 2009-08-27 23:06:22
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 27 2009, 11:01 PM) [snapback]641889[/snapback]
They are on the last boat off Rothesay..the bad ones stay behind smile.gif

You may have missed my point!
mortonjag 2009-08-27 23:08:26
QUOTE(ayrstorm @ Aug 27 2009, 11:06 PM) [snapback]641896[/snapback]
so according to the internet experts
we had a manager who was nice, but that let a betting scandal develop .........and he blew promotion extending our wilderness years
then we had a manager who was excelent at fitness, but allowed too much table tennis ........ and he blew playoffs and when finally got us into div1 seemed to plot an immediate route out again
now we have a manager players dont like cause he makes them do their job to the best of what he beleives their ability is ........... and he removed the entertainment factor from our play

so you dont want nice managers, you dont want managers using sport science and you dont wnt managers that upset people

apart from a FM2009 manager - ho do you want in a managerial style in a first div budget ?

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NOT YOU Sheep Lips! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-27 23:24:16
QUOTE(ayrstorm @ Aug 27 2009, 11:22 PM) [snapback]641902[/snapback]
another predictable mortonjag response

ignore a direct question - and imply a poster might just be the person he is discussing
but hey more fun to pretend it is Irons or McNally or Rae or Rae junior your responding to than answer a question in a post from another forum user.

Sorry Sheep Lips-that wasn't a very good response! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-27 23:32:11
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Aug 27 2009, 11:30 PM) [snapback]641905[/snapback]
**** sake, answer the mans point!

Which was? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-27 23:47:45
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 27 2009, 11:14 PM) [snapback]641901[/snapback]
Didn't miss the boat though happy.gif

So you got your hole off some bag from Bute, and you want the world to know about it.

What's her 'phone number?
mortonjag 2009-08-28 08:52:59
QUOTE(delboy66 @ Aug 28 2009, 02:18 AM) [snapback]641924[/snapback]
you are mortonjag are a disgrace to call yourself a supporter of greenock morton football club...... you are the type of supporter that we dont want or need at cappielow........ with a name like that you should be going to firhill to watch a glasgow club??????? also everthing you say about the club, the team, or the managment are they are never any good.... i can only hope that you never come back to cappielow again yes supporters complain about the team, or the boss, but you see nothing good about anybody!!!!! also that stupid picture on here whats that all about..... your looking well!!!!! still pissing in the wind i see!!!!

You'll get the boot along with Sheep Lips Del! dry.gif

QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Aug 28 2009, 08:40 AM) [snapback]641945[/snapback]
Don't get so worked up Delboy. He or the alias someone has created is a complete tit whose only joke is wearing rather thin.

One question ratarse-do you believe the original poster? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-28 08:55:17
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 28 2009, 07:12 AM) [snapback]641937[/snapback]
Seeing as it wasn't me who brought it up, I'd say you're wrong...in fact you are wrong on just about every part of what you have just said.

Need to read posts with a lot more attention in future. Not good enough Jag!

Are you still a virgin then? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-28 08:56:41
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 28 2009, 06:12 AM) [snapback]641932[/snapback]
Roll n slice. Piece n jam. Roasted cheese.

Toasted cheese in Kilmacolm!
mortonjag 2009-08-28 13:04:04
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Aug 28 2009, 12:49 PM) [snapback]642013[/snapback]
Show me a team who all get on with their manager, and I'll show you my c0ck.

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Promise or threat? huh.gif

Show me a team who all hate the Manager, and I'll show you Greenock Morton, Donga, and that's the crucial diference.

Some folk, as Newt, correctly stated, just can't handle the truth!
mortonjag 2009-08-28 13:49:49
QUOTE(delboy66 @ Aug 28 2009, 01:32 PM) [snapback]642037[/snapback]
all iam going to say to you is the post his a load of crap just like you...... & i am going to tell you why i know for a fact that davie irons does a job his own way that some players dont like. but its ither his way or its no way!!! his main problem with certain players is the fact that he cant seem to call players by there first names or by there nick names like spoonser or wakie most of the time its surname stuff & the players dont like it..... i know i named a certain former goalkeeper a few times on these threads & rightly fellow supporters of the ton did not like the fact i kept saying it....... but this is the only problem i know that the players have with D.I.... but when you know former certain players very well its hard not to mention names sometimes.....

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Then I must try harder to achieve the impeccable standards set by yourself, dear. wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-28 14:17:45
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Aug 28 2009, 01:53 PM) [snapback]642048[/snapback]
Fancy answering my question ?

You made a statement and stuck a question mark on the end! dry.gif

QUOTE(delboy66 @ Aug 28 2009, 02:08 PM) [snapback]642056[/snapback]
you mortonjag should go & crawl back under your slimey stone.... YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT GREENOCK MORTON FOOTBALL CLUB!!!!!& you never will!!!!!!

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mortonjag 2009-08-28 14:22:44
QUOTE(Cawston @ Aug 28 2009, 02:18 PM) [snapback]642059[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Is there anyone left that hasn't seen it already? ph34r.gif
Go easy delboy, Harelaws a sensitive soul. tongue.gif
True, but that'll not stop him. rolleyes.gif

You should know better Cawstik!

Anyway, what do you think of Mr Irons? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-28 15:23:48
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Aug 28 2009, 02:39 PM) [snapback]642069[/snapback]
No I didn't. I asked if you speak for the entire playing staff of Morton. Do you ?

I have heard from several utterly reliable sources (including players and players' relatives) that Sheep Lips is universally detested by the squad.

I take it that you dispute this information.
mortonjag 2009-08-28 16:11:03
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Aug 28 2009, 03:50 PM) [snapback]642097[/snapback]
I would agree with that. If it did have adverse effect on results then my anger and disappointed would be directed at the players if they were deliberately trying to get their manager the sack. Not only is it unprofessional and no other manager would go near them in the future, it would let the fans down big-time. We are the ones who turn up on the cold winter days, pay our money and travel to the away games and do not deserve to watch a team that is not trying because they are not best buds with the man who picks the team. That is not on.

It depends on how you look at it. No matter what job you're in you'll pull out the stops for a boss who commands your respect and treats you respectfully in return, and of course the opposite applies. It's only human nature. I doubt very much if the players are trying to 'get the manager the sack'-in fact I'd suggest he needs no assistance in that respect!
mortonjag 2009-08-28 16:27:18
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Aug 28 2009, 04:19 PM) [snapback]642107[/snapback]
I have no doubts that DI is not to everybody's tastes. As I've said previously I do not know any of the current playing staff or management to comment on their personalities or the collective harmony of the team. However, if the players were to stop performing deliberately because they don't like the boss, I would not pay my money to go and watch them, that would be unprofessional and unacceptable. They have a job to do, as does the manager. If we finished top 4 this season, I couldn't care less if everyone in the squad had fallen out with each other, so long as results are good then there is no problem for us as fans. Any internal problems should remain internal and resolved in the dressing room.

Correct-the players are supposed to try to win every match and the Manager is supposed to manage the squad and get the best out of them for his employer. If the Manager is not doing that he should be fired for incompetence.
mortonjag 2009-08-28 16:36:33
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Aug 27 2009, 12:07 PM) [snapback]641612[/snapback]
Can't agree with that. One of my clients, a nice old lady in her late seventies, fell for a telephone scam last summer that conned her out of three amounts totalling around £4,000 - she was told she'd won the Canadian Lottery jackpot of $8.2m . They were very plausible (to her, at least) and would've carried on milking more money out of her had she not told me about it - against their advice; they'd insisted that she keep her "win" confidential "for her own safety and wellbeing".

They were so blatant about it that they gave her a reference number to quote when she phoned to make her next payment - H20702ER. Yep, "water loser"....... dry.gif

Not everyone is worldlywise about these things, if they didn't work they wouldn't still be on the go.

The swines behind these scams should be rounded up and publicly de-bollocked.

How much do you charge her for a quickie?
mortonjag 2009-08-28 17:16:16
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 28 2009, 05:01 PM) [snapback]642113[/snapback]
Ah good old Shrek. I always thought Myleene Klass was the nice looking one but looking at that picture the blonde is quite nice too. Definitely a more interesting post than most of the inane 'I ken something yous dinnae' drivel.

Most humans find snakes repellent.
mortonjag 2009-08-29 06:42:55
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 28 2009, 10:15 PM) [snapback]642197[/snapback]
A dreadful precedent ?

How often, in many different sports, has a gaffer lost the support of his team ?

How often when a club changes its mangement staff does the team win right away ?

Happens in all codes of football, and I would suggest most team sports, on a frequent basis.

Naughty Newt-you were instructed to post a picture of your poosy-PD will be very dis-chuffed. He may even type an incomprehensible reprimand. rolleyes.gif

I don't have a poosy to post a picture of, but I think she looks nice: just look at those lips!
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mortonjag 2009-08-29 06:51:50 I'd prefer to see us attack them from the start. If we do I suspect we'll go ahead. SL will then try to sit on the lead as he always does, Thistle will equalise, and we'll end up happy with the draw.


If we don't attack from the start, I hope the Manager gets a lesson he won't forget until he's nominated the real culprit. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-29 07:28:51
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 29 2009, 07:04 AM) [snapback]642283[/snapback]
Please don't go off topic

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mortonjag 2009-08-29 07:34:20
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 28 2009, 09:04 PM) [snapback]642172[/snapback]
I'm a seasoned pro and a tit wink.gif

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mortonjag 2009-08-29 08:11:50
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 29 2009, 07:38 AM) [snapback]642289[/snapback]
I bet the picture after this involves peanut butter, your testicles and that dog!

FFS there's a pirate copy out already! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-29 08:34:29
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 29 2009, 08:15 AM) [snapback]642294[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDIf he's a corsair-aye!
mortonjag 2009-08-29 08:56:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 29 2009, 08:54 AM) [snapback]642302[/snapback]
now, a change from cats.

http://www.bigmerino.com.au/

laugh.gif What's that hanging down, Newt?
mortonjag 2009-08-29 11:15:45
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Aug 29 2009, 10:48 AM) [snapback]642338[/snapback]
Wrong. The club offered him a contract extension but his agent told him to reject it so he could move on at the end of the season regardless.

Waverley is correct. mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-29 11:21:38
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 29 2009, 10:53 AM) [snapback]642339[/snapback]
He's gonnae cyber-stalk you puggs. ph34r.gif

I'm choosy about those who experience my cyber stalk! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-29 11:23:42
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Aug 29 2009, 09:39 AM) [snapback]642317[/snapback]
Someone's had the wool pulled over his eyes!

Stoopid baa-sturt!

How does a poor farmer finance such a deal? Can you get a mortgage on lamb chop?

You can on a butt 'n' ben!
mortonjag 2009-08-29 13:31:08
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Aug 29 2009, 11:26 AM) [snapback]642354[/snapback]
About Millar, yeah. McAlister, however, was offered a contract much earlier and he asid no. What do you want the club to do? [b]You don't even rate him[/b].

If you mean by that, that I think he's a crap left winger, you are absolutely correct. He's been stagnating at Cappielow for five years of his career and he desperately NEEDS a move.
mortonjag 2009-08-29 13:36:03
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Aug 29 2009, 01:32 PM) [snapback]642394[/snapback]
i'm sure there would be plenty of clubs interested once there is no transfer fee involved. Motherwells interest has been well documehnted and i'm sure he wouldnt have any difficulty getting a move to the likes of accies, st johnston, killie either

I totally agree. You can't blame Mr Rae for trying, but I guess he's been too greedy and shot himself in the foot.
mortonjag 2009-08-29 17:49:56 Sheep Lips is utterly clueless. PLEASE do yourself a big favour.
mortonjag 2009-08-29 22:19:41 It happened with JM, and now it's happening with Sheep Lips. All of a sudden reality dawns and every fan and his great Uncle Willie agree that the Manager was, is, and, always will be a keech! rolleyes.gif

So here's the question-rhetorical no doubt-to all of you gutless sheep who yet again have buried your heads in the sand and supported an arrogant and dismissive know-all, who has alienated the whole squad and for whom even the Chairman has no time.

Where are you now, and where are your apologies to those of us blessed with the ability to see the obvious? mad.gif ph34r.gif dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-29 22:27:55
QUOTE(Harelaw @ Aug 29 2009, 10:25 PM) [snapback]642795[/snapback]
Look on the bright side.....

I've got to share a car journey all the way to Benbecula early tomorrow morning with both a Jags fan and Midden fan !

How ****ing unlucky is that sad.gif

Take Beermonkey with you and drown the c*nt please! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-29 22:51:04 No, I most certainly do not want him to continue taking a wage from our club under false pretences. When JM ultimately 'resigned' -golden handshake and all- Irons was a 'panic' buy. He had absolutely no Managerial credentials worth a fig, yet the majority of fans welcomed his appointment with open arms, when Jim Duffy for example, was not even interviewed.

He is credited with saving us from relegation, but the truth is that he blew crucial matches in the run in-notably away to Clyde, and we only picked up points at the end from sides who were already safe.

Apart from a couple of one off games- Hibs last season for example, we've hardly seen one really exciting football match under this so called 'Manager' who talks a good game but has the tactical nous of a moth in a candle flame, and the man management skills of a demented dyke.

Anybody who really believes that the squad has been pulling its weight for the Dumfries Domine has undoubtedly hung up his stocking already.

It's been TTG Irons from the day Mr Rae announced that Sheep Lips and his back stabbing sidekick would be with us for 'a long time to come'. mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-30 00:01:25
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Aug 29 2009, 10:55 PM) [snapback]642817[/snapback]
Noticed today that Alistair Donald was not with the other directors today. Haven't seen him since the start of the season.
If you believe MJag, was he happy that we got beaten today or not, he is in the process of engineering Dougie out of the club. So where is the man?

I thought you knew all the answers Mr. McColl!

In case you hadn't noticed, Mr Rae is still in charge of the club, and there isn't much more AD can do until the status quo changes.

Ask your Daddy who really paid for the Midden's old stand, or would you prefer to believe honest Stuart Duncan? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-30 00:04:50
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ Aug 29 2009, 11:41 PM) [snapback]642831[/snapback]
I thought it looked like Dougie was there...but maybe it was the club psychiatrist...
JB.

Did he not resign as soon as he discovered the players were all sane and the Manager said he didn't need help? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-30 00:13:36
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 29 2009, 06:25 PM) [snapback]642618[/snapback]
McManus was a disaster last season at Airdrie too. He was pretty poor against Ayr and Dunfermline. Punt him.

Harding is a weak link. Punt him.

Who was in goal? Someone posted that it was Cuthbert but reports say McWilliams. If it was Ryan, I hope he doesn't let it get him down as he looks a decent prospect.

Glad I didn't make the trip.

Someone from Gourock (Mark?) has just had his comments read out on Traynor's phone-in to the effect that we need major changes.

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Indeed-yer buddy is pure keech! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-30 00:22:57
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Aug 30 2009, 12:19 AM) [snapback]642839[/snapback]
does anyone else think that not all is well

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mortonjag 2009-08-30 00:28:45
QUOTE(Savo @ Aug 29 2009, 11:40 PM) [snapback]642830[/snapback]
Same here. Peter had a thankless task but once again showed a commendable attitude for the whole game.


Yon Spoonsy has a lean and hungry look.
Is this the same Peter whom a large number of fans wanted to hound out of Cappielow? blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-30 00:32:25
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Aug 30 2009, 12:27 AM) [snapback]642846[/snapback]
I have no idea exactly what Mr Duncan is claiming about the midden's stand. GMFC paid for the midden's old stand and the floodlights with a contribution from no other individual and/or company, other than the ongoing interest free loan provided by Golden Casket.

Mortonjag, perhaps you could clarify for me exactly what Mr Duncan said....

Firstly you must clarify for me exactly what you mean by 'GMFC'. Is this the latest Director. George Michael for Chairman? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-30 00:35:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 30 2009, 12:27 AM) [snapback]642845[/snapback]
What is the Morton minister doing ?

He should be working overtime.

The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-30 00:36:18
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Aug 30 2009, 12:34 AM) [snapback]642851[/snapback]
That would be Greenock Morton Football Club Limited, apologies for missing the limited bit from the end...

AH-NOT MR Rae then? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-30 00:37:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 30 2009, 12:30 AM) [snapback]642849[/snapback]
Are you saying that Irons is on a slippery pole ?

Or a Shoogly peg? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-30 00:39:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 30 2009, 12:38 AM) [snapback]642855[/snapback]
It's way past your bedtime.

I'm in my bed-the monkey types for me.
mortonjag 2009-08-30 00:52:52
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Aug 30 2009, 12:43 AM) [snapback]642857[/snapback]
MJ, you appear to be argumentative for the sake of it. You know as well as I do that nothing GMFC Ltd does in a material financial sense is without the say so of DDF Rae. He might not physically written the cheque himself but he certainly was the one to sign it. So to answer your question, DDF Rae acting as a Director of GMFC Ltd did sign and authorise the cheque...

Perhaps you could address the original question posed and inform me what Mr Duncan allegedly said...

OK ass-AD came up with the readies, yet Duncan claimed on this forum that Rae paid for the stand.

You know that of course, and have the cheek to call me argumentative. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-30 00:54:26 The club can't afford not to sack him.
mortonjag 2009-08-30 01:00:03 You can control a game for virtually ninety minutes, but it's goals that count.

Goodnight Mr Irons, and please close your mouth before you leave! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-30 07:09:54
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Aug 30 2009, 01:04 AM) [snapback]642869[/snapback]
It is very presumptious to assume what i know!

As a Director of GMFC I know that Mr Duncan could easily look at the income books of the company and ascertain how much, or indeed how little, that any individual has contributed to the coffers of GMFC Ltd.

Do you have any proof that AD came up with the readies? Or is this in line with your assertion that Davie Irons would not be this seasons manager. Trip time to London anyone...

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Outed at last!!! bouncy.gif

Now let me guess. Clearly you're not AD-he's an educated man, and anyway my information came from him, albeit indirectly. That leaves honest Mr Duncan, who posts under his own name, Mr Rae the Elder who is far too dignified to grace this humble massage board, and....................Crawford.

BLOODY HELL! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-30 07:14:29
QUOTE(delboy66 @ Aug 30 2009, 02:59 AM) [snapback]642895[/snapback]
just when you think you have seen it all with morton they go & pull a other one out of the wonderfull morton hat.. the scott era, cowboy macormack stabbed in the back, the betting scandal... now this i have never seen a morton team that looks so what could not give a f...k.... its not my problem & beside DI a certain mr d.d.f. rae needs to be asked a few questions also...

Would you like free English lessons?
mortonjag 2009-08-30 07:17:39
QUOTE(delboy66 @ Aug 30 2009, 03:08 AM) [snapback]642900[/snapback]
have supported DI all the way but after today i dont know????? who would want to play for us??? a team with no pride or heart..... serious questions need to be asked about the players.. its not a secret that certain players dont like DI but they should still play 100% or more for the club & its supporters....

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You accused me of not supporting Morton because I suggested those very things. Indeed, you did so in a very unsavoury manner.

Are you a bit slow on the uptake? blink.gif

Chrissiboi-my opinion of Sheep Lips has remained constant now for over a year. His disrespectful and inconsistent treatment of the squad allied to his petulant 'spoilt brat' nature has alienated him from virtually everybody at Cappielow. The Raes were dead set on booting him in the summer, and I'm not permitted to say what went wrong.

How much will it cost in REAL terms to rid the club of a man who is making an even better job of ruining it than JM ever did?

Not a lot I say.
mortonjag 2009-08-30 07:29:28
QUOTE(hayfever @ Aug 30 2009, 05:27 AM) [snapback]642911[/snapback]
Why is it so difficult for Jim McAlister to get a game in a position that suits him? On the right hand side of the park, for example...

Because Mr Rae wants lots of MUNNY! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-30 07:38:39 I really DO like sheep's lips. Before you laugh, take a long hard look at the next sheep you spot grazing in a field. Whisper gently to it, and with any luck you'll get a delightful ovine smile in return.

Why are animals' features automatically considered ugly. I kiss my greyhound on the lips every day-I know she licks her arse, but the woman next door sooks knob, so who's counting?

Anybody else think animals often have nicer faces than humans?
mortonjag 2009-08-30 09:26:42 I only buy the Herald and Scottish Mail on the Sabbath. Corky quoted in both match reports and not a mensh of DI. Has he uttered words in any of the other rags?
mortonjag 2009-08-30 10:06:57
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 30 2009, 09:51 AM) [snapback]642937[/snapback]
I thought that most of the team were not bad today apart from the backline where the only effective defender was Greacen. Harding and McManus might as well not have been there for all the good they did. Harding cost the first goal which turned the game. None of our back three could handle the pace of a couple of the Thistle forwards, especially Buchanan.

The Finlayson incident was bad but no worse than Greacen's rush of blood to the head and I did see Finlayson pat McWilliams on the back after a save he turned for a corner in the second half. I think his reaction to McWilliams not coming was just as much frustration as Greacens but less costly - it did not cost us a suspension.

Two of the three central defenders contrived to make the rest of the team look bad and the third let us down for a different reason and now will face a suspension for what -2 matches? There might be problems elsewhere but we have to get the leaks in defence plugged pronto!

The defence has gone from being very solid for most of last season to being powderpuff. Irons has fallen out with Alex Walker and so he does not get a game. Instead we get Harding on instead. Nearly anyone on this board would have started McGregor long before Harding so what is Irons thinking?

I have had enough of a manager who lets his personal feelings get in the way of proper team selection and who has no idea what to do about our present predicament. I make that 3 wins out of our last 12 competitive matches, two of which were against third division opposition. That's not good enough and the longer it goes on, the less chance a new manager has of sorting it before its too late this season.


I thought that despite Irons' 'problems' we'd be hard to beat this season and that finding goals would be the difficulty, and I confidently predicted a top four spot.

Although we're not bottom of the league YET, our goal difference is worst by two, and to me that speaks volumes.

The sad thing is that for all the deficiencies in key positions, our squad, if motivated properly could be challenging for a place near the top.

If DI is still here for our next match, I confidently predict another defeat. It can't be allowed to continue.
mortonjag 2009-08-30 10:11:02 For all his faults, Finners is always 'up for it'. He had a brilliant clearance off the line to prevent it from being 6 - 0.

He just ain't a right winger. Showing a bit of passion is hardly a sin! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-30 10:18:03
QUOTE(jpmil @ Aug 30 2009, 09:57 AM) [snapback]642939[/snapback]
If his information came from a source known to the vast majority of supporters why does he bother to veil the identity of his "source" in secrecy?

Why does it matter to you anyway?

If you give me information which you are happy for me to disseminate, but ask me not to reveal your identity, would you be upset if I named you?

It's just like AJC the other night. I happen to know who his source is, but he won't be revealing it on this massage board, nor should he.

The regular bleat that 'no source means no credibility' is a complete joke. If that applied universally we'd have no media! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-30 11:34:19
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 30 2009, 10:44 AM) [snapback]642952[/snapback]
Marc Corcoran for those who haven't bought mortonjag's best seller - 'Nicknames for Dummies'. Honestly, his names get worse as the weeks and months roll on...
I don't know where I stand on DI not giving a post match comment. On one hand I can understand his frustration and his desire to keep his comments to the dressing room after yesterday - on the other the paying fans deserve, if nothing else, a public apology for the display yesterday.

Clearly you are the dummy!
'Corky' McCall
mortonjag 2009-08-30 11:36:02
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 30 2009, 10:47 AM) [snapback]642955[/snapback]
Ahh, back to resorting to (unprovoked) personal insults. Good to have you back, old chap. rolleyes.gif

EDIT: My opinion of Irons hasn't changed - take from that what you will.

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mortonjag 2009-08-30 11:45:49
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Aug 30 2009, 10:55 AM) [snapback]642962[/snapback]
Even if the players despise their manager they have a job to do and if they're not trying, they deserve the tin tack every bit as much as their gaffer.

Maybe the lads are just working to rule! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-30 11:53:09 We're hearing murmurs about players 'not trying' for the Manager. Some posters seem able to separate the two. No matter how despicable the Manager is, they argue, the players should be 'bustin' a gut to win every game.

I have a wee theory and it goes like this. If your line Manager's behaviour is unacceptable you lodge a grievance with his superior. Theoretically that should make something happen - and if it doesn't-well I suppose drastic situations demand drastic measures.
mortonjag 2009-08-30 12:04:55
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Aug 30 2009, 11:50 AM) [snapback]642980[/snapback]
Wrong on all counts - just highlights the fact that even the great MJ can get things wrong, 2 + 2 can sometimes make 5....you are perhaps familiar with the game of Chinese whispers, where a piece of information gets distorted along the line by various people - that is what happens when you get told things indirectly. tongue.gif

Of course your usual tactic of trying to change the focus away from the original point is well noted - you are completely wrong in your assertion that AD stumped up the readies.
Congratulations - you have won this mornings prize for being more correct than MJ laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Alistair Donald purchased the Midden's old stand. I'm well aware that it is in certain interests to deny that right now, and I understand why, AND sympathise, but I'm not prepared to be called a liar just to further others' agendas.

It's as simple as that.

No further comment on this, and if you don't want other posters to make a bigger issue of it, I suggest you follow the same tack.
mortonjag 2009-08-30 12:07:59
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Aug 30 2009, 11:58 AM) [snapback]642985[/snapback]
No excuses for lack of effort. Ever.

Even if your manager is a dick. If he doesn't do his job, he gets the sack. If players don't do their job their treatment should be no different.

You fail to see the point. What level of effort should be deemed acceptable. I don't remember anybody EVER asking for Andy Ritchie to be fired! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-30 12:11:35
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 30 2009, 12:06 PM) [snapback]642990[/snapback]
Ahh, that's where you went wrong - taking information from the Evening Times. wink.gif

I've never heard Jobby McCall referred to as 'Corky'.

...and the Lord said--'Well ye ken noo son'!

No apology then? thumbdown.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-30 12:13:56
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Aug 30 2009, 12:10 PM) [snapback]642995[/snapback]
It comes down to professionalism and I expect anyone who pulls on the shirt to give 100% regardless of ability or personal views of the manager.

So the concept of a player 'really pulling out the stops'-even for a good manager-is a myth?
mortonjag 2009-08-30 12:17:41
QUOTE(Ginantonic @ Aug 30 2009, 12:10 PM) [snapback]642993[/snapback]
Not at all. If you consider the ratio of things done right to things done wrong for each individual player, my opinion is that Kevin was our best player yesterday. Not saying he was brillaint mind you, far from it. Just the best of a bad bunch.

I thought Jim's deliveries from the left were just as erratic as Kevin's from the right (granted Kevin had the better eye for the spectacular) and that he contributed less in defence than Kevin. Again, I know I am in a minority (of one) with that opinion. Thing is, I only see a couple of games a season and haven't nurtured an irrational love or hatred for any of the individual players. I am just calling the game as I saw it and that is, without blinkers.

Given that both Jimbo and Finners are crap wingers and neither can shoot for peanuts, and only going on yesterday's display, I'd say that Jimbo started off very brightly and then faded out of the game. Finners just keeps going-nowhere perhaps-but he just keeps going.
mortonjag 2009-08-30 13:01:14
QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 30 2009, 12:44 PM) [snapback]643019[/snapback]
Right, here we go.

I've never called for Davie Irons' head on here- not once, not ever. And regardless of what my views are, I won't. I've got regrets about how I went about trying to get rid of McInally and vowed I wouldn't do it again.

Therefore, as mortonjag suggests, I am one of the [b]GUTLESS SHEEP WHO HAS BURIED MY HEAD IN THE SAND.[/b] It's amazing how our memories can erase certain little factors that don't fit well into our argument. Mortonjag, do you remember the night of 19th March 2008 when everyone had the opportunity to have their say at a public meeting and get things off their chests? I doubt you will, as you were the one who decided not to attend and say your piece, instead using the security of hiding behind your laptop. Yet we're the gutless ones.

See as the goals started flying in yesterday, I, and many others were absolutely gutted. It was horrible to watch. Hand on heart, what were your feelings? I'd suggest nothing more than satisfaction that you again had the opportunity to tell us all, over the internet of course, how clever old mortonjag was right all along. Well done, hope you're happy. I'm not and nobody else is, so that'll be mission accomplished for you.

You can ram the apologies too, they'll not be happening. Wonder when Davie Irons will get his for the incessant Sheep Lips digs. Nothing short of juvenile, the sort of personal digs you'd expect from a child in primary school, not a man with a professional background. What satisfaction do you actually get from this petty name calling that isn't in one way related to his suitability to do the job he was employed to do?

I really don't like the personal name calling but find beermonkey's pictures difficult to disagree with.


If the cap fits wear it Toby. I wasn't aiming that at you or at anybody else who has quietly given Irons the chance to hang himself. It was directed at the sycophantic prats who right up until yesterday defended him at every turn and tried to pour scorn on those of us who have seen through Sheep Lips for long and weary.

So here's a question to somebody who was perhaps correctly perceived as a drunken troublemaker-somebody whose attacks on JM were regarded by many as bang out of order. Did Mortonjag ONCE criticise your behaviour?

You've been bleating out your apologies till they're wearing thin sonny boy. I actually believe you were right!

Now would you care to explain why you've launched a personal attack on me for being right all along.

Oh-and yesterday-those goals flying in and it being 'horrible to watch'. Well let's just say that we started brightly and I was looking forward to putting one over on the Jags fan who was with us, but when it became obvious we'd chucked it, I thought-'maybe this is what we really need before we can progress'.

I hope you understand where I'm coming from. blush.gif


mortonjag 2009-08-30 13:07:30
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 30 2009, 12:38 PM) [snapback]643016[/snapback]
Well I don't think it helps when the players get conflicting instructions from the coaching staff . Respect has to be earned but I am afraid Irons has no chance of earning the players respect because of his behaviour .
If a manager slates you unfairly infront of not just your teamates but in the press then a thinly vailed apology weeks later or saying he was out of order at the end of the season is a token gesture that not many would accept

Correct Chris-there's that wee thing about mind over matter and it works in reverse. If the players are psychologically down and unmotivated it's very hard for them to raise their game. That doesn't necessarily mean that they are deliberately trying to lose.
mortonjag 2009-08-30 13:18:44
QUOTE(Ginantonic @ Aug 30 2009, 12:52 PM) [snapback]643021[/snapback]
Oh the irony. Arrogant?



QUOTE(Ginantonic @ Aug 30 2009, 01:14 PM) [snapback]643027[/snapback]
Oh the irony. Arrogant?

Would you like treatment for your speech impediment, or are you just another f*cking parrot? dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-30 13:32:06
QUOTE(delboy66 @ Aug 30 2009, 01:29 PM) [snapback]643034[/snapback]
dear mr mortonjag you are still a f...y who knows f..k all about GREENOCK MORTON FOOTBALL CLUB........ you as i said on a other thread are just the type of supporter we dont need or want at cappielow......... away & crawl back under your jaggy stone...... someboby said to me yesterday that you were seen in the jackie husband stand shouting come on ye jags.........

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mortonjag 2009-08-30 13:35:02
QUOTE(Ginantonic @ Aug 30 2009, 01:33 PM) [snapback]643038[/snapback]
Oh the irony. Arrogant?

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mortonjag 2009-08-30 13:37:11
QUOTE(delboy66 @ Aug 30 2009, 01:33 PM) [snapback]643037[/snapback]
do you actually know what standards means.... because you dont have many.....


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mortonjag 2009-08-30 17:14:23
QUOTE(capitanus @ Aug 30 2009, 04:41 PM) [snapback]643103[/snapback]
A lot of people are calling for Davie Irons to leave Morton in the light of recent performances.

But here's the bigger question: given his track record of managerial appointments, is Douglas Rae a competent enough chairman to make the right decision when it comes to appointing a successor to Davie Irons?

Honest answers and comments welcome.

I believe Mr Rae will be Chairman until he is no longer able.
mortonjag 2009-08-30 21:51:43
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Aug 30 2009, 08:03 PM) [snapback]643197[/snapback]
MJ. Stuart just called you a pr1ck. rolleyes.gif

I don't think he did. He stated what he imagines to be correct, and so did I. Time will tell which of us is right.
mortonjag 2009-08-30 21:55:32
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 30 2009, 08:08 PM) [snapback]643200[/snapback]
I was there Russell and the guy said trust him he'd get things right given time . Now the team despite an increased budget are not only sore on the eyes but just as inconsistant as JM's time in the 1st . The same deficencies are still very visible in the squad.

Chris-you are such an ambassador of peace-the man is a complete arsehole! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-30 21:59:52
QUOTE(Cawston @ Aug 30 2009, 05:59 PM) [snapback]643132[/snapback]
Well done Mr Jag, after 30,000 posts you've finally got one right tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 30 2009, 06:06 PM) [snapback]643142[/snapback]
The thing about Gillian Donaldson though is that nobody know's how good she is at her job, or in fact what her remit is. I heard a while ago that Dougie appointed her into the post from a junior position at Fort Matilda, but at the same time I've heard of folk saying she was their boss in a major high street bank, so I don't even know if she's qualified to do the job she does. Whether or not she is is irrelevant imho, as DDFR seems to want to do everyone's job for them. He's the successful businessman, so he knows best surely unsure.gif ?

She's certainly not my favourite person in the world (Who is?) but it's probably harsh to suggest that she's only in a job cos Dougie had a hard on.

Anyway, onto the main issue- I agree wholeheartedly. Yes, Dougie overall has been good for the club, but his legacy is in serious danger. As a few pointed out yesterday, one bad appointment could put the nail in that particular coffin. Having a Chief Executive that actually does the job of a Chief Executive would be my ideal scenario, minus the interfering from the Chairman. Whilst I would love to see that happen though, I'm not filled with optimism that it actually will.

FFS you're beginning to sound like Mortonjag-ya boring c*nt! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-30 22:06:47
QUOTE(drobton @ Aug 30 2009, 09:58 PM) [snapback]643245[/snapback]
No MJ we don't support a manager we SUPPORT a team so while you are knocking one off looking at yesterdays score the rest of us are fecking depressed. Glad you're happy.
I have supported the team for 45 years. I do so because my parents took me, when I was old enough to form my own opinion I supported them and now that I have taken my son for 15 years, he has made up his own mind to still go. We will be there after Irons and many managers after that, have gone.

I support my team don't f***ing call me gutless because I haven't demonstrated to the level you expect.

Sorry but I haven't seen any Irons GTF banners in the stand or heard public chants from there, telling him where to go. You'll need to demonstrate your feelings a bit more because you've not been heard during match days.

Now, the McInally GTF squad were heard. I didn't always think they did it in a way that actually supported the team in fact I thought it was negative at times but they did it public and were there to be challenged, and often were.

People like Andy and Danny got banned for trying to expose what they knew.
They wern't gutless.

So tell me, who is gutless because 30K bashes on a keyboard count for feck all if you've not backed it up.

Have you finished slevering Grandad? I've supported the Ton for longer than you and I ALWAYS will. Irons is a liability-Rae is DESPERATE to offload him, and we still have arseholes on here who can't see reality when it's staring them in the face. They are the ones I referred to as gutless and 'burying their heads in the sand'. As I said to the drunken professor earlier, if the cap fits, wear it. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-30 22:10:57
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Aug 30 2009, 10:09 PM) [snapback]643252[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-08-30 22:13:23
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Aug 30 2009, 10:04 PM) [snapback]643250[/snapback]
Sorry Jag, Mr Duncan stated what he knows as the facts to be, you have merely stated what you IMAGINE to be correct. Let me congratulate you on such a vivid imagination... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Mr Duncan, like yourself ass, has an agenda.

Do you understand the meaning of the word propaganda?
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mortonjag 2009-08-30 22:18:59
QUOTE(Cawston @ Aug 30 2009, 09:30 PM) [snapback]643235[/snapback]
Exactly.

Being the leagues laughing stock is getting very old.

It's get the finger out time Dougie, and get it right this time ffs!

Leave Mr Rae alone-he's a good chap. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-30 22:20:54
QUOTE(tontastic @ Aug 30 2009, 08:24 PM) [snapback]643207[/snapback]
I don't know if i can be bothered going through the pictures. As I said before, my long lens is away getting serviced/re-calibrated and since most of the action was at the far end of the pitch away from me they won't be very good from the short lens.

Pfffffffffffffff.

Penile implant? biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-30 22:22:27
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Aug 30 2009, 09:37 PM) [snapback]643239[/snapback]
Could someone with the accurate figures please post them ??

Afterall there's allegedly a lot of shareholders on this board who are privvy to the info unsure.gif

What I'm looking for is the loss made by GMFC in the last statement of accounts, without disguising the figure by any share issue which very few bar Dougie has invested in.

Donkey Dave will be along shortly after he's asked what to say. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-30 22:25:31
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 30 2009, 08:48 PM) [snapback]643222[/snapback]
We don't have a proper set up and despite all the bluster about Collins incharge I see little improvement except equipment.

I thought Mr Duncan had a new sports academy! Has Donkey Dave been lying AGAIN? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-30 22:27:51
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 30 2009, 10:25 PM) [snapback]643265[/snapback]
Have you converted to Hinduism or Budhism perhaps? Careful McArthur, in your next life you might be a Tory. From Paisley.

Who takes it up the arse from George Galloway! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-30 22:30:31
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Aug 30 2009, 10:27 PM) [snapback]643267[/snapback]
I would rather take the word of a board member who may be privy to more info than you and comes across as a half decent guy. God forbid. Your constant bulls*** is actually doing irons a favour cause you are coming across as a sanctamonious old git with a personal vendetta against him. (Never his greatest fan but gave him a chance) A.D still has shown nothing. I talked to barbie after he met him in the norseman and it all sounds good but we can all talk the talk time for him and dougie to well you you know the rest. Time for clarity at cappielow and a fresh start to hopefully a new management team

I see you are not a student of history! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-30 22:35:50
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Aug 30 2009, 10:27 PM) [snapback]643266[/snapback]
Yes, he should continue. It is a ridiculous knee-jerk reaction to suggest that he should go after one bad 5-0 defeat for which the players and management were responsible (unless Dougie had Thistle on his coupon and had a word with McManus before the game, which I doubt).

Dougie has done so many good things for this club both on and off the park fronting hundreds of thousands of pounds in the process. He is a fan of the club and his heart is in the right place. Rumours of him interfering in team selection seem a mite far-fetched and in fairness his managerial appointments all delivered their initial objectives:

McCormack - won the 3rd
McInally - won the 2nd
Irons - kept us in the 1st for 2 consecutive seasons with a "promotion challenge" last year

There is not a plethora of good unemployed coaches at the moment in Scotland so I cannot see Dougie getting rid of Irons lightly. We have a 2 week break now and I think that Irons will be given the 2 games after the international break to turn things around. Plenty of time to reflect on our start to the season for the players, management and board, and if we don't pick up a win in the 2 games after the break, I would imagine that DI will be given his p45.

We turned it round last season, only time will tell if we can do it again this year.




It is never too late to see the light. I too believe Douglas Rae should stay for as long as he can, and I sincerely hope his next manager does him proud.
mortonjag 2009-08-31 06:37:27
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Aug 30 2009, 11:24 PM) [snapback]643309[/snapback]
If truth be an agenda then I stand guilty as charged!

Propaganda (noun)

1. information, ideas, or rumors deliberately spread widely to help or harm a person, group, movement, institution, nation, etc.

2. the deliberate spreading of such information, rumors, etc.

Mr Duncan and I are not the ones dealing with propaganda as defined above! rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

You and Mr Duncan are welcome to provide me with documentary proof. Until that happens I shall continue to believe what I have been told- a story which fully explains why you THINK you are correct.

I have not accused you of lying, and it would be nice if you extended the same courtesy to Mortonjag, a man of impeccable standards and complete honesty!

I'm sure you are bright enough to get your head round that ass. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-31 18:14:27

QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Aug 30 2009, 10:50 PM) [snapback]643286[/snapback]
You obviously believe what you have been told by your source, and I can understand that. But if I was you I would go back to your source and get them to clarify what they were told and by whom. Because it simply isn't true.

I have done exactly that today, and have again been provided with the same information. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this. If somebody gives you fifty quid to buy a round of drinks and you tell the lucky recipients that it 's your own hard earned cash, the world will be impressed by YOUR generosity! smile.gif

QUOTE(jpmil @ Aug 31 2009, 01:19 PM) [snapback]643476[/snapback]
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Would this be the same person who told you that DI would not be the manager at the beginning of this season?


No indeed-that information came directly from a respected local journalist, and I've subsequently had confirmation from several other sources that DDFR believed Sheep Lips would be off in the summer.

I'd imagine that at least a dozen separate posters can confirm that if they choose! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-31 18:26:15


QUOTE(delboy66 @ Aug 31 2009, 01:06 PM) [snapback]643469[/snapback]
seen him going through bridge of weir about 8.45 this morning... with a serious look on his face...

Makes a change from him going through the young lads who can't won't stand up for themselves. A bully, and it appears a coward.

mortonjag 2009-08-31 18:28:01
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 31 2009, 06:24 PM) [snapback]643640[/snapback]
...and again. rolleyes.gif

If you really want a shag that much son, send me a p.m. and stop the stalking. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-31 18:33:41
QUOTE(Bawhirley Road @ Aug 31 2009, 11:56 AM) [snapback]643427[/snapback]
To all you prophets of doom I would just say be patient.


Just trust Davie and Derek

With apologies to McArthur!
mortonjag 2009-08-31 18:38:46


QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 31 2009, 03:52 PM) [snapback]643578[/snapback]
Indeed. Whilst Peter has started this season far more brightly than he has looked for a long time, I'm not exactly his greatest fan, but I think it's way off the mark to suggest he is in any way accountable for the current situation.

Davie Irons, I think, clearly showed himself as being something of an idiot at Gretna and we're seeing the same thing happening now. The players are poorly drilled, poorly organised, poorly selected and poorly treated, and that is why results like Saturdays happened, that is why the heads went down and the whole team capitulated so spectacularly after the first goal. That is why we never see this team snatch a couple of late goals to take even a point from a game, and it's why we so often lose late goals. The sooner the pair of them bugger off the better, and also then we can maybe start making headway with this youth academy (allegedly).

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So glad 'twas you who said that Eanie! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-31 18:39:51
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 31 2009, 06:32 PM) [snapback]643644[/snapback]
That's priceless coming from you. laugh.gif

My comments are invariably priceless dear-now about that shag................
mortonjag 2009-08-31 18:41:24
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 31 2009, 06:31 PM) [snapback]643643[/snapback]
Don't flatter yourself, sunshine. wink.gif

WOOD EYE-come to think of it, you couldn't affort it. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-31 18:46:33
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Aug 31 2009, 06:41 PM) [snapback]643649[/snapback]
So, to clarify this matter, you are saying that AD gave the money to GMFC so that they could purchase the floodlights and stand? Or did he give the money to Golden Casket so that they could lend/donate/convert debt to shares in order to fund the purchase by GMFC?

If so, can I humbly suggest that "your source" is giving you a big "jaganory" and should not be seen as being reliable. once is bad enough, but twice... rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

So you ARE Douglas Rae.

Well Sir, will you please, please read my signature. wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-31 18:48:46
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Aug 31 2009, 06:45 PM) [snapback]643652[/snapback]
THERE'S ONLY ONE PETER

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AND HE'S A SAINT
mortonjag 2009-08-31 18:51:50
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Aug 31 2009, 06:50 PM) [snapback]643656[/snapback]
AND A STRIKER
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mortonjag 2009-08-31 18:53:13
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 31 2009, 06:45 PM) [snapback]643651[/snapback]
Woooooooooooooooooooooo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you want the consequences ?

Don't worry Chrissiboi, I hear he's a big fearty really and dreads needles! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-31 18:54:26
QUOTE(Eric M. @ Aug 31 2009, 06:13 PM) [snapback]643636[/snapback]
You guys must get really stuck for a scapegoat when Kevin doesn't play. I'll agree he's not the best but the abuse he's been getting here is totally over the top.

Like his shots? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-31 19:06:39



He became "fitful, irreverent, indulging at times in the grossest profanity (which was not previously his customs), manifesting but little deference to his fellows, impatient of restraint or advice when it conflicts with his desires, at times pertinaciously obstinate yet capricious and vacillating, devising many plans for future operation which are no sooner arranged than they are abandoned in turn for others appearing more feasible ... His mind was radically changed, so that his friends and acquaintances said he was no longer ******"

In other words, his brain injury turned him into a psychopathic narcissist.


Read more: http://personalitydisorders.suite101.com/a...y#ixzz0PmjfWaM0
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mortonjag 2009-08-31 19:16:56
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Aug 31 2009, 12:38 PM) [snapback]643454[/snapback]
Nothing wrong with being pleased with gradual progress.

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mortonjag 2009-08-31 19:18:42 His mirror in the dressing room at Firhill. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-31 19:20:34
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 31 2009, 07:19 PM) [snapback]643673[/snapback]
Di? Thought she died 12 years ago?

I heard she's going out with Elvis now.
mortonjag 2009-08-31 19:22:41
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Aug 31 2009, 07:18 PM) [snapback]643671[/snapback]
I fail to see the connection you are making with the above - could you just answer the question as posed...instead of going off at a tangent.

Let's play a game, shall we ass?

You tell the posters who you are-they already know my identity, and then I'll answer your question. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-31 19:30:36
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Aug 31 2009, 07:25 PM) [snapback]643677[/snapback]
And what bit of not going off at a tangent did you not understand? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

You're not going to tell them?

Why should they believe a word?

DONKEY DAVE KNOWS HEE HAW! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-08-31 19:31:30
QUOTE(grnklad2006ton @ Aug 31 2009, 07:27 PM) [snapback]643678[/snapback]
Yer a sack sir another great topic started blink.gif .........

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mortonjag 2009-08-31 19:34:54
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 31 2009, 01:30 PM) [snapback]643480[/snapback]
Any sort of tattoo on a lady gives me the boak. rip.gif

Who on earth thinks they're attractive? unsure.gif

Some are IMO.

QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Aug 31 2009, 04:05 PM) [snapback]643589[/snapback]
I would say that large tittoos on a female are getting less popular. Maybe a wee discreet one. I would bet that Cheryl Cole regrets having the tittoos that she has.

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mortonjag 2009-08-31 19:39:10
QUOTE(Fellow Traveller @ Aug 31 2009, 07:32 PM) [snapback]643683[/snapback]
Good evening, MJ. Can I just point out another little error you seem to have made in this thread. For a long time when I was a director you seemed to be telling us on here that the Spotty Dog was the Trust chairman, then later you appeared to change your mind and have now decided that it is one of my sons.
I frankly have no idea who the dog is, but I know for sure that neither of my sons was at Firhill on Saturday so since the dog was there and could tell that AD wasn't, QED it isnt one of them.
You need to look for someone else.
.........................................................FT

I take it you are a Mr McColl and you don't know who the dug is but you know he's not one of your sons.

Thank you Mr McColl. laugh.gif

mortonjag 2009-08-31 20:42:48
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Aug 31 2009, 08:36 PM) [snapback]643705[/snapback]
I have been reading this saga with some confusion. And it has led me to ask the following.

DD, Are you still in charge of, or have access to the confidential accounts of GMFC/GC?
Where do you sit in all this, are you still employed by GC and if so what accounts from GMFC pass through your remit?
If monies have been passed to the Rae family, are you fully aware of all these transactions?
Are there receipts available from Stuart Gilmour of SMFC to confirm the purchase?
When the accounts are published what will that tell us? That we have accrued more debt to GC to finance our progression? (or lack of)
Who will pay for this debt?
When will the debt be paid?
With your history of jumping ship when required ( I refer to your switch from Tommy Sheridan’s Socialist party to one of the Scottish National Party), should we trust your opinion anyway?

Good gracious-I never for a moment thought Donkey Dave was real. Just had him down as another wind up ass.
mortonjag 2009-08-31 20:44:35
QUOTE(delboy66 @ Aug 31 2009, 08:19 PM) [snapback]643696[/snapback]
you are a nutter.. what was that all about again???????

That is correct.
mortonjag 2009-08-31 20:48:03
QUOTE(delboy66 @ Aug 31 2009, 08:26 PM) [snapback]643699[/snapback]
well mortonjag and who do you think that my grandfather was that played for the ton..... you dont have a f.....g clue who it was come on mr big mouth who is it??????????

Well I'm sure you're going to tell me, and you know what-if that's your only claim to fame, you're a pretty sad lad.
mortonjag 2009-08-31 20:50:27
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Aug 31 2009, 08:45 PM) [snapback]643715[/snapback]
Have I done something I shouldn't have. ohmy.gif

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mortonjag 2009-09-01 06:02:23 The accounts of GMFC/GC are not private or confidential, although certain transactions and contracts will be regarded as commercially confidential.

And those are EXACTLY the types of transaction on debate ass! dry.gif




As for monies being passed to the Rae family, one would have to ask why that would be relevant. Are you seriously suggesting that AD gave the Raes dosh, on a personal basis, so that..what exactly? I cannot really see the point behind that...

The ass shudders at the thought that Mr Rae hasn't told him everything! laugh.gif rip.gif




The receipt from Stuart Gilmour can be seen as being the arrival of both the floodlights and the stand structure.

Utter bollocks-where IS that receipt ass-did Barbie touch a tender nerve? mad.gif

Mr Rae has EVERYBODY on a 'need to know' basis. If he can string big Gillian along, what makes you think you're privy to the number and colour of his rapidly dwindling pubes? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-01 06:10:08
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 31 2009, 09:28 AM) [snapback]643385[/snapback]
I agree that we could do with Russell back in the team, preferably on the right and playing as a winger - he's not the most deadly finisher but he can get past players and I think he gives us something we lack at the moment.

I wasn't at the game on Saturday but I'd say the conclusions from what I have read here would be:

Greacen and Shimmin at the back, with Walker at full back and possibly McGregor. McManus sitting in the stand. Midfield with Jenkins in it and perm any 2 or 3 from whoever is available. Weatherson and Graham up front (as he will improve if he gets a run in the team. And IMHO Russell on the right, possibly sort of midfielder/winger, to give us pace.

Oh, and pass the ball, don't hoof it. Leave that for late on when Wake appears to rough up a tiring defence.

...and the Manager-still your buddy or are you going off him the way you went of Millstone? biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-01 06:16:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 31 2009, 11:09 PM) [snapback]643824[/snapback]
Did you nip down and get it for him ?

I trust that it's not cracked nor broken.

The last thing the Ton needs now is another 7 years of bad luck.

The last 7 have been bad enough.

I can confirm that it is intact, Newt. It is an unusual mirror, having a 'two way' facility which enlarges the viewer's own image while diminishing those of all caught in its reflection.
mortonjag 2009-09-01 06:30:27
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Aug 31 2009, 11:49 PM) [snapback]643843[/snapback]
Going from battling relegation to being in a safe mid-table spot is gradual progress. In hindsight, signs should have been seen, but are you honestly trying to suggest that what we did last season wasn't progress ?

Absolutely, 100%, definitely, Bob's yer Uncle AYE!

A safe mid table spot, my arse-last season's league was tighter than the Chairman--THERE WAS NO MID TABLE.

Furthermore Irons continued to alienate himself from the entire workforce at Cappielow, the Chairman decided Sheep Lips had to go, and at the eleventh hour discovered a 'hitch' in the paperwork.

Gradual progress on the ground perhaps, though I don't see that stand AD bought suddenly shooting up. Maybe somebody else is supposed to pay for that.

What I will suggest to you is this. RAPID progress may just be around the corner. That progress can only commence if we stay in this division for another season. For that reason if no other, Irons must go NOW. Mr Rae has dithered far too much in the past.
mortonjag 2009-09-01 06:41:48
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 1 2009, 12:55 AM) [snapback]643874[/snapback]
That's the main point in my mind. Dougie Rae is the man interviewing these people and so he has the best chance to judge them and make the decision. So the blame lies with him and not the fans even if they think it looks a half decent appointment from the outside.

At the end of the day Douglas Rae has the right to choose the Morton manager only because he owns the club. He wasn't a player or a coach so probably doesn't even know what he's looking for in a manager. I'd be much happier with any appointment if Rae had a football advisor / director of football or even an ex-player, like Warren Hawke for example, sit in with him on these interviews and advise him on who they think would be the best appointment.

Unfortunately the rumours seem to suggest that Douglas has to be in control and is always right so he'd probably ignore any advice.

Mr Rae's not getting any younger, and a time will come (perhaps sooner than later) when the old boy may not be able to rule the roost. I'd hope others have a say in the imminent appointment of our new manager and I fervently hope his contract is very short term and performance based.

It would surprise me none, however, if we see an interim 'in house' management team. That would not, de facto, disappoint me.
mortonjag 2009-09-01 06:44:53
QUOTE(Rossco @ Aug 31 2009, 11:54 PM) [snapback]643846[/snapback]
Anyone else thinking Delboy66 = Derek Collins?

More likely a mate or relative.

Is Collins thick too?
mortonjag 2009-09-01 06:49:10 Veggies live MUCH longer than meaties. Is killing coos murder? Nope-slow suicide! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-01 06:51:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 30 2009, 10:39 PM) [snapback]643278[/snapback]
I lost my innocence when he led me to his basement when I was 8 sad.gif

It is a cellar. You were, however, very young, and your mistake is excused.
mortonjag 2009-09-01 06:53:10
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Aug 31 2009, 06:07 PM) [snapback]643632[/snapback]
If you are retired, why are you still picking up free sample stock from drug reps?

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I may be mad, but I buy my own drugs. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-01 07:49:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 1 2009, 07:30 AM) [snapback]643892[/snapback]
An old man ?

Is he any older than Crawford Rae ?

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He is a mere 42 if he is to be believed. Perhaps his relative youth explains his bizarre behaviour.
mortonjag 2009-09-01 07:51:53
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 1 2009, 07:42 AM) [snapback]643893[/snapback]
Among all the uncertainly and change in the world there one thing we can know for sure.

I confidently predict that TiD will post a sentimental war poem on this thread before 10:00am. smile.gif

Source? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-01 07:53:18
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 1 2009, 12:14 AM) [snapback]643857[/snapback]
No abuse there, though if it is abusive may I remind you of your ageist s***e aimed at DE and I. dry.gif

OWE DEER! blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-01 07:57:25
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 31 2009, 09:07 PM) [snapback]643735[/snapback]
What, even on a wrinkly old 60 year old?

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Remember kids.... tattoos aren't just for Christmas.

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Especially on a well ironed septagenarian. wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-01 08:00:14
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 1 2009, 07:56 AM) [snapback]643898[/snapback]
British prison inmates are better fed than hospital patients, researchers say.

A team from Bournemouth University in southern England have found that, although prisons spend less per person on food, inmates are more likely to get a nourishing meal than their fellow citizens who are not behind bars.

Professor John Edwards said about 40 per cent of patients going into hospital were already malnourished - but the situation rarely improved while they were there.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/britain-feeds-...90901-f5k7.html

Are any prisoners still required to do hard labour ?

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Another indictment of our namby pamby society and our pandering to 'Europe'.
mortonjag 2009-09-01 08:11:09 Four years on.

Has ANYTHING changed at Cappielow? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-01 08:16:11 Three years on-does ANYTHING change at Cappielow? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-01 08:17:30 Again three years on!

Does ANYTHING change at Cappielow? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-01 08:47:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 1 2009, 08:38 AM) [snapback]643909[/snapback]
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Gidday MJ,

I expect that someone is going to suggest that it's your mirror, cobber.

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Mine is 87 and lives in Dunoon.
mortonjag 2009-09-01 09:07:20 Does anything change at Cappielow? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-01 09:40:39
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 1 2009, 09:16 AM) [snapback]643916[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif That's brilliant, thanks i needed a good laugh this morning.

So just out of curiosity, just where did we finish ?

Five points above play- off position ape.
mortonjag 2009-09-01 09:41:52
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Sep 1 2009, 09:30 AM) [snapback]643922[/snapback]
Only 2 signings required and they are both to be done doon the brew. Think the phone may be red hot the day with loads of clubs from scotland, england and europe enquiring as to why dougie keeps pestering them about buying jimbo.;-)

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mortonjag 2009-09-01 10:13:40
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 1 2009, 09:44 AM) [snapback]643926[/snapback]
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© Daily Mail

I've got absolutely no idea how Eurpoe has anything to do with the quality of food in UK hospitals, but no doubt you'll elaborate. rolleyes.gif

PS - The UK is in Europe, it's not a separate continent on its own.

Uhuh-hence the inverted commas!

I was more referring to prisoners' rights CHC.

Oh and mypoe would definitely NOT improve the quality of food anywhere! wink.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-01 10:24:36
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Sep 1 2009, 10:15 AM) [snapback]643931[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif Sometimes you look at this auld idiot's post and you just have to laugh.

"There was no mid-table" - Morton finished sixth, on the same number of points as the team in fifth place in a league of ten teams. BY DEFINITION THAT IS MID-TABLE.

""Five points above play-off position" - True. But also FOURTEEN GOALS better than the team in play-off position. And also just FOUR points short of being level with Dunfermline in THIRD spot, and eight points off Partick in second. Again representative of a team IN MID-TABLE in a league of ten - but those stats wouldn't fit with your slanted view of things, so they're ignored. dry.gif

The old saying used to be, in degrees of mendacity, "lies, damned lies and statistics".
On HERE it's "lies, damned lies and moronicjag".

Your petty prejudices and hatreds are clouding what little judgement you used to have, and your credibility on here is zilch.

Go play with your wind-deflector. tongue.gif



QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 1 2009, 10:22 AM) [snapback]643933[/snapback]
Feck it, you beat me to it. laugh.gif

Gentlemen (I use the term loosely) it is my ineffable pleasure to amuse your little minds! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-01 10:25:20
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Sep 1 2009, 10:21 AM) [snapback]643932[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-09-01 10:27:11
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 1 2009, 10:25 AM) [snapback]643936[/snapback]
I've never been incarcerated in a UK prison so I could be wrong, but I image the quality of food there is adequate rather than high, which is all that could be reasonably expected from a civilised society.

So I think the point here is the very poor quality of hospital food rather than the high standard of prison food. In that case I still fail to understand how 'Europe' can possibly be held responsible for the poor quality food in UK hospitals. Please enlighten.

I have made a resolution not to 'enlighten' folk who simply want an argument.

I'm not like that!
mortonjag 2009-09-01 10:49:10
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Sep 1 2009, 10:30 AM) [snapback]643942[/snapback]
Gooood, gooood, glad to hear it.

Tho given your normal harangues and use of language I'd say it's most certainly your EFFable pleasure.......

F*CK OFF
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mortonjag 2009-09-01 10:57:28 The accounts of GMFC/GC are not private or confidential, although certain transactions and contracts will be regarded as commercially confidential.

And those are EXACTLY the types of transaction on debate ass!




As for monies being passed to the Rae family, one would have to ask why that would be relevant. Are you seriously suggesting that AD gave the Raes dosh, on a personal basis, so that..what exactly? I cannot really see the point behind that...

The ass shudders at the thought that Mr Rae hasn't told him everything!




The receipt from Stuart Gilmour can be seen as being the arrival of both the floodlights and the stand structure.

Utter bollocks-where IS that receipt ass-did Barbie touch a tender nerve?

Mr Rae has EVERYBODY on a 'need to know' basis. If he can string big Gillian along, what makes you think you're privy to the number and colour of his rapidly dwindling pubes?

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Sign a manager please, Mr Rae.
mortonjag 2009-09-01 17:50:23 Chairman gives useless Manager a vote of confidence.

a.k.a. 'Kiss of Death'.

A decent humping by ICT and that'll be it.
mortonjag 2009-09-02 05:44:52 Sheep lips will be off soon. He just keeps digging himself in deeper.

More than one way of skinning a cat. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-02 05:47:54 Mortonjag is happy to act as a punchbag for a motley crew of unfulfilled arses.

Those, however, do not include deliberate liars and twisters of the truth.

It could be, however, that even DD believes he's correct.

Maybe the truth will never come out. Maybe that's the way the master wants it. Maybe it will go to his grave with him! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-02 05:52:05 In desperation to save his job Sheep Lips reverts to the JM method.

Shoogly sh*t still visible on tongue! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-02 05:56:03 One thing's for sure, when Megrahi's long gone he'll still be the pawn of variegated political scumbaggery. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-02 05:57:26 I believe BLIAR has lost his bottle in the battle to upstage God.
mortonjag 2009-09-02 06:21:01
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Sep 1 2009, 11:09 PM) [snapback]644212[/snapback]
I think you're reading a bit much into his comments.

Rae is doing the decent thing here by correctly stating that the season is only 4 games old and considering that we have had 3 away games and 3 injured goalkeepers, our luck has hardly been on the manager's side.

I said the same thing last year around this time and I hope Irons does turn the team around, as I'm sure Rae does too, though I think a new contract will only be offered to Irons if we win every single game from here on in and even then, it might be unlikely!


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mortonjag 2009-09-02 06:25:24
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 1 2009, 01:03 PM) [snapback]643984[/snapback]
I think he is the alter-ego of MortonJag who is also the alter-ego of Douglas Rae. Come on Douglas, is it you? rolleyes.gif

Indeed no, Peter.

I think the poster may just be a bit simple.

Nothing wrong with that.

Simplicity was admired by Jesus. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-02 06:30:21 I'm in Dunoon a lot, having several relatives there. I like the place-it's a refreshing change from the 'big smoke' and not TOO detached from reality. It has the best DIY store in the West of Scotland, where Neil McFarlane's Daddy can sometimes be found . (and the worst traffic warden). wink.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-02 06:35:51
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Sep 2 2009, 01:41 AM) [snapback]644235[/snapback]
whatever, an inspired signing who got irons out of the fire and turned our fortunes, oh and did i mention that grady is one of the guys he does not talk to, good thanks to the wee man for saving his bacon.

You can't help feeling that Grady/McManus will be appointed caretaker managers after Caley beat us. That has to be the easy option for the Board. This squad IS capable of a top four position. F*ck all the sanctimonious c*nts who batter on about giving 100%.

Take a reality check children. A desperate situation demands desperate measures-good old Machiavelli knew the score.


GET SHEEP LIPS TO F*CK! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-02 19:14:14
QUOTE(tontastic @ Sep 2 2009, 01:44 PM) [snapback]644331[/snapback]
Dae It Yerself?

Dae it YERSEL actually.

Don't be fooled by the wee shop frontage-there's a huge yard out the back and downstairs storage too. Those guys will get anything you need-cut anything to size, deliver free etc.

Fantastic service and highly recommended.
mortonjag 2009-09-02 19:16:22
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 1 2009, 08:13 PM) [snapback]644161[/snapback]
You called it a sweet shop sad.gif

Sweetie shop, if I recall! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-02 19:18:05
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 2 2009, 01:15 PM) [snapback]644313[/snapback]
General morton chat for this p1sh dry.gif

sh1t! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-02 19:25:41
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Sep 1 2009, 10:05 PM) [snapback]644198[/snapback]
Just a smallish point. I dont believe that DD's membership (or not) of any political party- including any change of membership- should be a matter discussed on here. It's a private matter in the first place surely ?
A low ball Barbarossa ?

Well I do Cloth Ears. I have absolutely NO time for employees of Douglas Rae posting on our massage board under pseudonymns. IT ABSOLUTELY STINKS. rip.gif

If he's willing to expose his credentials , that's slightly different-indeed I volunteer to to boot them through his arse. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-02 19:34:31 If it's definitely true that Sheep Lips is oot the door if we lose to ICT, then he's oot the door--- guaranteed.

Can the players possibly ignore the chance of a lifetime to rid themselves of a tyrant and please the Chairman simultaneously.

I await with amusement Mr Rae's inevitable statement when Mutt and Jeff are handed their P45's.

Somehow I can't see it equating to the accolade JM got, though I've a sneaky feeling we'll hear, 'but sadly it's a results driven business' again! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-02 19:37:15
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 2 2009, 04:33 PM) [snapback]644372[/snapback]
laugh.gif Had an 8.30 am meeting in Aberdeen this morning. I'm now in Tain via Elgin and absolutely bloody knackered.

What a quaint place name, Peter! blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-02 20:23:08
QUOTE(HamCam @ Sep 2 2009, 08:07 PM) [snapback]644431[/snapback]
Not wishing to shyte in your cornflakes but DD's background as a slave to DDFR is well known and not something he has ever hidden.

Suspect there may also be a queue at Cappielow lining up to volunteer to boot your credentials all round the park. Think even DDFR may find a spring in his step to leap to the front of the queue.

Speak for yourself goat humper. Employees of DDFR should NOT be using this forum to further his agenda.

Your second sentence is somewhat passe darling-hadn't you noticed, or are you just a bit slow? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-02 20:44:10
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 2 2009, 08:41 PM) [snapback]644438[/snapback]
I'm not getting that at all.

A bit of realism here, we were told early doors that money would be tight due to the £250K being spent on the ground. Other than a very early comment by Irons the club never pretended it was going to be anything other than a frustrating summer.

Frustrating it was.

To me Dougies comments confirm that Irons is in there until we're staring relegation in the face.

For all defeat to ICT will feel dire I think Dougie's got an eye on the run of games against the lower half of the league teams in the hope that things pick up.

On a side note, you have to ask if there was any value at all in the Austria trip. What would that have cost, £25K maybe?

Would've been better used as a salary.

PS. Thornton, the senile dementia comments...not cool.


That was a gift from a benefactor! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-03 04:52:41
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 2 2009, 11:58 PM) [snapback]644474[/snapback]
It's just next to Totally Buggered Douglas. blink.gif

Was that not the Snake's autobiography?
mortonjag 2009-09-03 05:00:45 What a pointless thread!

Wee boys cyber tittering about their dream w**k.

I much prefer my partners to have wit and intelligence. Not so worried about age or sex.
mortonjag 2009-09-03 05:12:17
QUOTE(HamCam @ Sep 2 2009, 09:23 PM) [snapback]644448[/snapback]
The only person on this forum who uses this messageboard to further their own agenda is yourself. DD has many faults not least a shocking dress sense and have you seen that haircut ? He however has the courtesy to answer questions directed at him not least by a senile old coward with a somewhat inflated sense of his own importance.

Keep on laughing at your inspirational one-liners one day someone else may join you.

Who would listen to a word from a man with such appalling grammar? Keep them coming capricawk. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-03 05:16:53
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Sep 2 2009, 11:38 PM) [snapback]644468[/snapback]
Says the person who said he was out the door in the summer.

I've just gave up responding to MJ altogether. It is impossible to have a mature and adult discussion with him.

Good-don't come back till you've taken grammar lessons! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-12 17:31:10 laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-12 17:36:59
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 12 2009, 05:08 PM) [snapback]646720[/snapback]
Since the anti-Jenkins brigade (garymcc, Davie Irons etc.) decided that was the best way to slag him off rolleyes.gif

Good to see Jim excel in that trequartista role today, wonder why we don't do that more often?

Don't feed the troll!
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mortonjag 2009-09-12 17:41:31
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 12 2009, 05:35 PM) [snapback]646731[/snapback]
There is no options left, Irons has to go.

He got his tactis wrong yet again today. No excuses, if ICT had been a little more adventurous it could have been another 5-0 defeat.
They didn't need to work hard for any of the goals today. Best example was the first one. Their no.11 picked the ball up just inside the Morton half. He runs down the right wing and the first person to tackle him was McGregor INSIDE the Morton box ! A powder puff tackle from McGregor let the ball fall to the no.11 who simply crossed it into the box for the forward to pick his spot.
As for Morton attacks, well the ICT keeper made one save of note in the first half anf that was from a long throw from Parrtalu and Wake gets on the end of it.
In the second half, it was Peter who made space for himself with a shot from 18yrds. And that was it ! 2 decent shots at goal in the entire game and we are the home team !

Diabolical ! Irons really has to go or, and I'm serious here, we will be facing relegation !


Thanks for the mini report Claymore C*ck-first Scapa game I've deliberately missed in my whole life. Told another fan this morning that the boys wouldn't pass up the chance to get rid of that arrogant **** who's made the players lives a misery. He'll NEVER be a successful Manger-just ask the Dragon's Den why! bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-12 17:48:00
QUOTE(TigerTon @ Sep 12 2009, 05:45 PM) [snapback]646743[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Sep 12 2009, 05:42 PM) [snapback]646742[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I never seen it but I can see why he is getting the abuse the Partick game summed him up the first 3 goals were his fault.

I'm not denying that he's useless, but nobody deserves that abuse.

You may discover that he's not as useless as you think! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-12 17:50:24 A polite request to all Sheep Lips arse kissers.

Identify yourselves!
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mortonjag 2009-09-12 17:54:02 A serious question folks-no wind up intended. Who will Sheep Lips be bad mouthing in the Dumfries Burroo next month?
mortonjag 2009-09-12 17:55:52
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 12 2009, 05:54 PM) [snapback]646754[/snapback]
My names Chris and I once said give Irons a chance . sad.gif

My name's Ernie and so did I! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-12 17:57:14
QUOTE(garymcc1874 @ Sep 12 2009, 05:55 PM) [snapback]646756[/snapback]
Simply pathetic.

Stewart - s***e
Defence - s***e
Midfield - s***e
Strikers - s***e
Subs - s***e

Today really was it for me. Davie Irons should get to fck, but the players were an absolute disgrace today. Every one of them. Absolutely nothing positive at all.

Way to fck with 2 young boys' confidence as well .. McWillams being dropped, but especially dropping Graham who had previously done nothing wrong at all. He must have felt absolutely tremendous watching the other joker Wake's attempts at being a footballer!

Seriously pissed off tonight

The same players will win the first match after Sheep Lips goes Gary-guaranteed!
mortonjag 2009-09-12 18:01:51
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 12 2009, 05:57 PM) [snapback]646760[/snapback]
There is no pleasure in seeing Irons and Collins lose their jobs. I'm afraid it just hasn't worked out for them which is sad.
When Irons came here he was enthusiastic and committed. Remember when he buried his father in the morning and was in the dugout in the afternoon ?

I for one would wish Irons the best of luck wherever he ends up in football. But I'm afraid it's time for him to leave Morton.

Don't talk crap. Some folk can't face facts. The man is a self obsessed liability and universally detested by the squad.

Good riddance. He'll get a job as a PE teacher and take it out on even smaller boys.

Fired for total incompetence, and I don't feel a shred of sympathy for an arrogant B who's even taken the piss out of Dougie Rae-and that takes some doing! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-12 18:05:40
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 12 2009, 05:49 PM) [snapback]646749[/snapback]
Oh, were you back in London today?

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No SPARROT I had other business to attend to with Mr Hill! smartass.gif smile.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-12 18:08:57 A top four spot this season, with crowds rising from the minute Sheep Lips packs his bags.

Bye bye Sheep Lips-kick the door a player as you leave, and don't forget the vanity mirror! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-12 18:11:26
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 12 2009, 06:07 PM) [snapback]646772[/snapback]
Jim McAllister put 100% effort into disappearing into a 4th dimension for 89 minutes today. He was rubbish. They were all rubbish. It was a dreadful contest between two rancid sides, one which Inverness looked threatening due to our inept defending and deserved all three points.
The time for change was two weeks ago and Rae bottled it. We cannot afford for this to continue any longer. We need a clearout from top to bottom of the manager and the players.

CRAP. This squad only needs a couple of astute signings to be challenging for promotion. It's pretty obvious that the sheer dimension of Sheep Lips negative effect won't be apparent for a little while to come.
mortonjag 2009-09-12 18:12:19
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Sep 12 2009, 06:11 PM) [snapback]646775[/snapback]
Sorry MJ but you have been wrong before....

In your dream ass.
mortonjag 2009-09-12 18:14:19
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Sep 12 2009, 06:10 PM) [snapback]646774[/snapback]
Still waiting MJ....if you can possibly drag yourself away from telling everyone how right you have been all along. Funny how it takes another defeat to get you back online...

Waiting for what ass? Your source and Stuart Duncan's source are the same. Mr Rae paid for everything. Correct. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-12 18:16:30
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Sep 12 2009, 06:13 PM) [snapback]646779[/snapback]
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has he been fired? whilst I dont take any pleasure in anyone losing thier job, it is definately time for him to go although he should have gone long ago. my worry is how do you get a manager in that can manage a team of players who will try to get him out by failing to even compete. its happened in the past with jim mcinally and to an extent with cowboy. the players are just as culpable as the manager at times with the effort they put in, and they to should be ashamed.

I'm sure we all thought the Reich infiltrators were heroes! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-12 18:20:57 To those of you who are trotting out 'There's no pleasure in seeing Irons fired', I'm f*ckin lovin' it.

Get real folks-wipe away the crocodile tears and look forward to better times. The end has justified the means. blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-12 18:22:46
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Sep 12 2009, 06:20 PM) [snapback]646787[/snapback]
So Irons was actually sacked during the summer then - is that why the team are playing crap because we don't actually have a manager after all...thanks for the clarification.

Stop being naughty ass-you KNOW what happened and you KNOW Jaggy was correct! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-12 18:24:03
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 12 2009, 06:15 PM) [snapback]646781[/snapback]
Hmm, one centre back, two full backs, two wide players, quality attacking midfielder, and striker.
Not very good at maths are you?

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You're just being greedy!
mortonjag 2009-09-12 18:26:21
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 12 2009, 06:20 PM) [snapback]646786[/snapback]
Some 'fan' you are.

I know-I'm an absolute disgrace. First game I've deliberately missed at Cappielow in 50 years, and I got it spot on.



THANK YOU MR IRONS and MR HILL!!! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-12 18:28:18
QUOTE(Deego @ Sep 12 2009, 06:26 PM) [snapback]646795[/snapback]
He was right.

Correct my little Deeglet-those of us who are truly privy to the secrets of Mr Rae's chamberpot always get it right! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-12 18:31:05
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Sep 12 2009, 06:19 PM) [snapback]646784[/snapback]
An answer to the above.....

Not until you answer my previous question ass. I'm not interested in your bits of paper or what you heard from Your Master's Voice.

Where did the original dosh come from? You are permitted to say 'I don't know'. I'll even give you a carrot. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-12 18:33:06
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ Sep 12 2009, 06:32 PM) [snapback]646803[/snapback]
"I'd set out a team able to play in torrential rain and gale force winds, then some **** turns on the the sun, what chance did I have then"

Davie Irons, Greenock Telegraph, Monday 14 September 2009

GOD is to blame! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-12 18:34:19
QUOTE(jpmil @ Sep 12 2009, 06:31 PM) [snapback]646802[/snapback]
Has this man lost touch witrh reality???????

I'm sure you're not as mad as you think.
mortonjag 2009-09-12 18:36:33
QUOTE(jpmil @ Sep 12 2009, 06:29 PM) [snapback]646799[/snapback]
We ARE facing relegation unless DDFR takes action!

I'm sure Mr Rae will tonight be thinking that his boys have done him proud. I wonder how many superlatives he'll cram into Sheep Lips' valedictory statement! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-12 18:38:25
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Sep 12 2009, 06:35 PM) [snapback]646806[/snapback]
The original dosh came from Greenock Morton Football Club's current account. The money in that, in the main, came from Golden Casket extending it's loan to the club. Having already stated this I fail to see why you cannot get your head around that FACT.

So still we wait...

I told you not to fudge with bits of paper ass-WHARE DYD THI MUNNY KUM PHRAWM? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-12 18:39:28
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 12 2009, 06:37 PM) [snapback]646809[/snapback]
As sure as day follows night, the self-aggrandising mentalist surfaces to gloat at Morton supporters after a defeat rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2009-09-13 05:10:37
QUOTE(capitanus @ Sep 13 2009, 12:40 AM) [snapback]647104[/snapback]
You get a thrill out of some really strange things, ya old knobjockey.

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Nothing like a good public execution pour encourager les autres! The P45 couldn't be going to a nicer fellah! rolleyes.gif

I'm not exactly getting a thrill, though it's good to have been proved correct YET again.

Grady and McManus will now stage manage a revival and I believe we'll end in the top four. Next season they will be on a full Managerial contract and we'll be genuinely going for the SPL with AD's backing. Mr Rae, by then, may not figure as he currently does.

You heard it here first! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-13 05:17:14
QUOTE(forza ton @ Sep 12 2009, 07:56 PM) [snapback]646889[/snapback]
BUT DOUGLAS RAE THOUGHT HE WOULD BE!!!!!! THEY ****ED UP THE CONTRACT!!!!!!!!

mj is a nasty wee man most of the time but he's right about the contract mix up.



QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Sep 13 2009, 02:58 AM) [snapback]647207[/snapback]
Sorry Newton but normative assertions do not make something right.

An interesting point would be who exactly told the tele that the contract expired in May 2009? Ws it someone who actually had seen the contrract or at least was aware of the terms entered into by both parties?

I would imagine that the board of Directors would be fully aware of the terms offered and that they understood the terms offered.

It is also an assumption on both your parts to suggest that DI would not have got a contact extended - do you have any other evidence to support that view?

Everything might not be as it seems... rolleyes.gif

You are an amoral sleaze bag, ass. You shouldn't be on this forum and I've told you that before. Those of us with a grain of intelligence ignore the brayings of Mr Rae's infiltrator, spy, and professional liar.

You're not even good at it.

0/10=carrots- , Einstein!
mortonjag 2009-09-13 05:21:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 13 2009, 05:13 AM) [snapback]647229[/snapback]
Many a slip twixt cup and lip.

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Are you suggesting that Mortonjag makes mistakes? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-13 05:30:09
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Sep 13 2009, 03:40 AM) [snapback]647214[/snapback]
You're listening to a lot pish. Were any of the people you heard at the match privy to any sort of financial information at Cappielow? I don't think so. Also, it's only 5 games into the season. Still too early to be sacking managers IMO.

I'd give him 3 games to get 5 points at least and then I@d bag him.

You just don't get it-do you?
Sheep Lips can now do NOTHING to win back a squad he's systematically alienated with his shenanigans. What's worse is that even if he WERE a good man manager, he's a tactical turnip.

In footballing terms he's DIM

Davie Irons Martinet. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-13 05:40:35 No emotive expressions, no personal attacks, just facts.

Propping up the league below Airdrie and Ayr with a horrendous goal difference.

Latest form: Pl 2 W 0 L 2 F 0 A 8

We were NEVER this bad under JM.

For once Mr Rae will have to act promptly-this is not the time to be dithering. Frankly I'd just sack that pair for incompetence and let the players give evidence at the tribunal.

mortonjag 2009-09-13 20:43:00
QUOTE(Toby @ Sep 13 2009, 01:17 PM) [snapback]647335[/snapback]
So the very same chairman who was forced to shell out £66,000, including court fees to Ally Maxwell for a case that he was told he was a shoo-in to win is going to allow a group of young guys who's only talent (a term I use loosly) is to kick a ball about to stand up in court and give evidence to support his claims?

Put it this way, I hope you were a better bloody doctor than you would be chairman of a football club.

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REALLY?

I wonder how dismissively others still assess the all new squeaky clean Toby, whose only talent was seen by many as bending his bloody elbow - and I know for a FACT that some of them can spell simple words! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 13 2009, 04:46 PM) [snapback]647415[/snapback]
I think we should maybe have realised by now that perhaps it's not the managers who are at fault. How many have we had, and how often do we have to repeat the same scenario of "X must go"? McInally appears to have done well at East Stirling (by their standards). Maybe it's not the managers who are to blame for failure. Maybe the men at the top should back their managers and allow them to do their job - from our lack of signings over the summer, I suspect that that has not happened.

Still putting in yer tuppenceworth for Irons.

UNF*CKIN'BELIEVABLE.

I thought that after Mileson shafted you, you might have grown up a little. You really ARE a trusting wee soul Alibi! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-13 22:09:09
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 13 2009, 08:24 PM) [snapback]647489[/snapback]
As I have a self imposed ban on newspapers after games , it was nice of a friend to phone to give me the aftermatch quote from our manager .
" When you miss chances at one end and concede goals at the other you are in trouble "

How much are we paying this mammory gland ?? Over 30 years of going to Cappielow I never understood the rudiments of the game until Mr Irons chipped in with these pearls of wisdom.

FUKK right off Irons

He's milking Mr Rae dry! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-19 17:08:17 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjHJ_snG3RI
mortonjag 2009-09-19 17:13:20
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 19 2009, 05:11 PM) [snapback]649120[/snapback]
A much better choice.

The Snake

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Very apt Peter!
mortonjag 2009-09-19 17:15:38
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Sep 19 2009, 05:11 PM) [snapback]649123[/snapback]

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I have some little blue pills for Mr Irons.
mortonjag 2009-09-20 06:11:47 Mr Rae knows that.


Within the next few days the two muppets who have been abusing the players, conning the fans, and thumbing their noses at the Board of Directors will already be a fading memory down Scapa way. We have reached rock bottom and the only way is up.

It's never too late to learn Sheep Lips-why don't you become a Traffic Warden. You'd LOVE that! laugh.gif

If only people would listen to Mortonjag, the world would be a happier place for everyone. blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-20 06:22:19
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 15 2009, 02:05 PM) [snapback]647928[/snapback]
Do you think Mortonjag takes it? unsure.gif ph34r.gif

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QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 18 2009, 06:46 PM) [snapback]648677[/snapback]
Apparently you can suffer side effects, like a mild rash, organ failure right through to a stroke or sudden death! (in some cases). ohmy.gif Come on Dr Jag, tell us if this is common? unsure.gif

As TiD says, the drug manufacturers are obliged to publish all reported side effects. Viagra CAN be dangerous for people with pre-existing conditions, and for that reason it's best only to use it after consulting your Doc.

Who knows - your blood pressure could be sky high without your knowing, and that shagathon could end in disaster. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-20 06:31:06 Spend £50 on Golden Casket Confectionery, and get a free ticket for the new attraction at Fun World-the 'Results Driven Business Gallery', where you get to chuck rotten fruit at a big rotating wheel with Irons and Collins strapped to it. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-20 06:37:34
QUOTE(ALD0ZER @ Sep 20 2009, 05:18 AM) [snapback]649394[/snapback]
Irons is the top dawg!! rolleyes.gif

...aye, as he shags his wee poodle DC! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-20 06:46:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 20 2009, 06:44 AM) [snapback]649402[/snapback]
that's naw very nice.

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One is not obliged to observe! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-20 06:49:53 I've now missed the last two games. I've had other things to do and it's been a matter of choosing priorities.

I NEVER thought I'd hear myself say that in terms of watching the Ton on a Saturday. sad.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-20 06:53:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 19 2009, 07:14 PM) [snapback]649197[/snapback]
Quite rightly the focus is on the coaching staff of Irons and Collins just now with the dreadful start of the season.
But there are players who are just as guilty as those two. We have brought in ex SPL players and put them very good wages with nothing in return.
As stated in the Tele many a First Division team would be glad to have certain players from our squad.
Why have they become so bad ? It looks increasingly like they are here for a big pay day and nothing else.
Some have described the players as con artists and right now I find it hard to argue against that !

I'm personally glad that there are many who are out of contract at the end of season. I won't be one bit sorry to see them go !

Vive la resistance Claymore C0ck.

William Wallace, Robert the Bruce, Joan of Arc, and the Morton squad of season 09 -10.

Defeat the tyrant.

The end justifies the means.

I'm giving you wee clues Haggis heid!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-20 09:32:45 Courage and determination should not be confused with pig headedness. Sheep Lips - have you noticed our goal difference? It's the only league we're topping! rolleyes.gif For 2 - against 14 and you 'ain't quitting'

Will you be for quitting when its for 4 - against 28?

You are incompetent-you couldn't manage a 'piss up in a brewery'. Incompetence is a LEGITIMATE reason for firing an employee. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-20 10:12:30
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 20 2009, 10:01 AM) [snapback]649425[/snapback]
Here we go again.

There are players in that team who would undermine ANY manager we get in the door simply because they know they will be backed by our chairman. There are others who just don't like or don't agree with DI's management.

We can't unfortunately get rid of half a team, so the gaffer it will have to be, but this is in no way going to resolve the matter. If we get another manager in and the players do their talking on the park the question will arise as to how committed some of these guys are. It will seem after all they deliberately under performed to get rid of the current management, something that is unforgivable and downright selfish. Who are they to play with our clubs future?

Get rid of Irons and then weed out the problematic arses that pose as players and show them the door.

Of course that will still leave the problem of a chairman who would interview and decide who the next manager is, despite the fact he has failed miserably thus far in that department. I just hope, as I believe to be true, that the next managerial decision will not be down to one man, no matter how much that man loves Morton, he needs to take advice.

The problem is Barbie that Mr Rae hasn't so far had the baws to do what he knows he should - what he's wanted to do for months.

I DON'T blame the players for voting with their feet.

Call it working to rule or whatever else you like.

As I said - the end justifies the means, and at the moment they're making a better job of 'playing with the club's future' than the Chairman.

There are 'bad eggs' in every squad. Hopefully a new management team will sort that out .
mortonjag 2009-09-20 11:43:14
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 20 2009, 11:08 AM) [snapback]649442[/snapback]
Look. Irons would be a fool to quit. He would be surrendering nine months or so of income that he has coming to him. Probably 80% of us would do the same as him in this situation, rising to 99% of those who have mortgages and families. So he's under no obligation to quit at all.

There is one man who can make the difference here, and that's the chairman. Let's hope that by this time tomorrow he's done the right thing.

You've seen the contract? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-20 11:46:13
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 20 2009, 11:32 AM) [snapback]649447[/snapback]
I really think that unless DDF fires Irons this week, he's lost the plot, or lost motivation to do what's best for Morton. And that's something I never thought I'd accuse him of, despite his flaws.

His main motive is self embellishment. He doesn't want to be seen to be Mr Nasty.

Having said that he liked JM, but can't stand Sheep Lips.

For 2 - against 14. I'd say any Chairman is entitled to fire a Manager on that sort of result.
mortonjag 2009-09-20 11:49:17
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Sep 20 2009, 11:46 AM) [snapback]649454[/snapback]
Why is that anyone else's business?

That, like diarrhoea, is a very loose term.
mortonjag 2009-09-22 07:37:12 HOME BANKER! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-27 07:09:56 In truth it's never been here since Mr Rae decided that 'his boys' deserved the chance to take us forward when we stepped up to the Ist. In retrospect JM struggled with problems not entirely of his own making, but at least he was respected by the squad.

I believe JM left at the correct time for him and for us. We could have signed a decent Manager but Mutt and Jeff came looking for a job asking 'only workmen's wages'. Mr Rae's always been a sucker for a bargain! blush.gif

The feel good factor's back. We were not brilliant yesterday -in fact we looked disorganised and ragged for much of the game -yet I always believed we'd win, and winning is what football's about.

Football management is something you've either got or otherwise. Yesterday was a baptism of fire for JG, and whether it was an inspired decision, or just luck, his moving Jimbo to the right produced our killer goal. What a pleasure to see a perfectly weighted through ball met by a pacy winger, slammed across the goalface and buried by a striker. How often has that happened in the last two years?

Anyway, JG and the feel good factor seem to go together. Everybody was 'up for it' yesterday -Mr Rae must have been pleased at the increased crowd too.

WE MUST NOT RUSH INTO A NEW MANAGERIAL APPOINTMENT
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mortonjag 2009-09-27 07:18:18
QUOTE(SramTon @ Sep 22 2009, 02:57 PM) [snapback]650792[/snapback]
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Strictly speaking, the penis is not an organ-in fact I can't quite remember where what it is! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-27 07:22:56
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 27 2009, 06:57 AM) [snapback]652460[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-09-27 07:42:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 27 2009, 07:36 AM) [snapback]652465[/snapback]
Airdrie 2,104

Inverness 1,946

Dunfermline 2,661

An average of 2,237 is still a long way from 3,000.

Very true Newt.

If, however, we were to beat Q.O.S. the league leaders this Saturday, what crowd do you envisage at the Ross County game? Football fans are fickle!
mortonjag 2009-09-27 09:35:13
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 27 2009, 08:11 AM) [snapback]652471[/snapback]
If there is still no new manager in place then the crowd will still be circa 2,000-2,200. Even if there is a new gaffer in place you'll only see maybe 2-300 on top of that.

I fundamentally disagree. We've been punching below our weight for far too long while the fans of Hamilton, Falkirk, Kilmarnock, St. Mirren, and St. Johnstone laugh at scabby wee Morton.

This is not a time for recrimination. Onward and upward. If we DO beat Queens on Saturday we'll easily top 2500 against Ross County. I'll not be at all surprised if we're in the top four by Christmas and pulling in 3000 crowds again-AS WE SHOULD!

Mortonjag hath spoken. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-27 09:38:03
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 27 2009, 07:43 AM) [snapback]652467[/snapback]
Could we have your guarantee that we'll win at Palmerston Park please, good doctor ?

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I have no reason to disbelieve that we 'll bring three points away from Palmerston Park this coming Saturday. I guarantee at least one! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-27 09:40:33
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Sep 27 2009, 12:22 AM) [snapback]652422[/snapback]
Piss game. If Irons had been in charge today this forum would be full of complaints over what went on. The first team to score was going to win it and somehow we rode our luck and got the goal.

I'm never one to look at things in a negative manner but it seemed like nothing had changed.

How many shots on goal did we have? Some of the misunderstandings in defence were ridiculous.

We're ripe for a pumpimg off any decent side.

Try concentrating on Threave now Sheep Lips! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-27 09:46:59 Or should I say, Mr Rae has no more money available for Greenock Morton.

For that reason we should give JG and AM at least a few matches before we rush into anything. We are already paying their wages.

Avoiding relegation is this season's priority I'm led to believe.

Good times lie ahead! smartass.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-27 10:56:10
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 27 2009, 10:54 AM) [snapback]652490[/snapback]
Grady and McManus will get a few games to see what they can do. It will all depend an results of course. But unless we have a monumental slump they wiil be in charge till the end of season.

That makes perfect sense to me.
mortonjag 2009-09-27 10:58:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 27 2009, 10:20 AM) [snapback]652487[/snapback]
Has MJ moaned today ?

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Mortonjag only posts when we lose, if his detractors are to be believed. Ratarse and Co don't like MJ because they think his Uncle Donald is the Bogey Man! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-27 11:00:07
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 27 2009, 10:58 AM) [snapback]652492[/snapback]
And me... happy.gif

And both of us! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-27 11:02:52 I'm not keen to put too much emphasis on yesterday's performance. I don't think JG's lying when he says several players were recovering from a viral infection. Jenks, for example, looked well off the pace, though he managed a great ten minutes or so in the second half. I'm giving them all 10/10 for effort.
mortonjag 2009-09-27 11:04:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 27 2009, 10:04 AM) [snapback]652484[/snapback]
Blond hair.

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Blonde hairy? blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-27 12:07:36
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Sep 27 2009, 12:02 PM) [snapback]652515[/snapback]
That is a disgrace shouting "it ain't good enough". My god how pampered are these wannabees we have at cappielow. Now everyone can not be articulate as some people when expressing their views. The point is they were justified to slag the team because frankly no matter how u look at the performance (formations,passing, shots on target, energy and effort etc). It wasn't good enough. However to react like that is schoolboy stuff and happens time and time again. I must have selective memory but players in the past got a lot lot worse about their wifes etc which is unacceptable abuse but did not react because they were concentrating on the game as they were fully focused. This trend is alarming and the them and us culture is worrying. As I said handshakes are fair enough(Mr Jenkins must be congratulated for this) but the pattern has emerged(Jenkins i am not sure is even the worst candidate). Now that is "muppet" behaviour in my opinion. Thats where a manager comes in to eradicate that nonsense.

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Away and do your ironing! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-27 12:10:47
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Sep 27 2009, 11:35 AM) [snapback]652504[/snapback]
The feel-good factor is back because you always believed we would beat Airdrie? They haven't won a game this season! The football was so bad even the Italian lads went quiet for spells in the 2nd half. sad.gif

No my dear, the feel good factor is back because Sheep Lips and his creepy wee satellite made everybody else feel bad.

Can you get your totie heid roon that? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-29 06:25:12
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 28 2009, 10:35 AM) [snapback]652785[/snapback]
What feelgood factor? FFS, the game on Saturday was dire. Just because your favourite bete noire wasn't in the dugout doesn't mean all is immediately rosy in the garden. We scraped a win; we still need a huge improvement on a sustained basis.

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I'd stick to engineering terms if I were you! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-29 06:32:07 The squad was struggling with the after effects of a serious illness and a viral infection. The former now afflicts Threave Rovers.

What a shower of greetin' faced c*nts - the lot of yese.

We'll win this Saturday. Having consulted the Monkey, Fing, and Cheeky, I am convinced! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-29 06:35:31
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 28 2009, 11:48 PM) [snapback]653008[/snapback]
Harold Wilson said : 'The Labour Party is a moral crusade or it is nothing'.

Since then it has:
completely ditched any pretensions it had to socialism,
fully embraced capitalism,
fallen out with working people,
fallen in with bankers, spivs and barra boys,
embarked on illegal, unwinnable wars, and yet
still asks voters for another chance, to believe it can change things for the better.

Harold Wilson was right: a vote for Labour now will be a vote for nothing.

A vote now is a vote for nothing Mr Edwards.

Benign dictatorship-the only solution. blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-29 16:47:37
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Sep 29 2009, 03:17 PM) [snapback]653156[/snapback]
From today's Telegraph "I'd like to move Jim to his natural side, says Grady"

Good managers often say that one of the most important ingredients for success is keeping things simple and getting players to do what they are good at. The number of postings on this site over the months suggesting that Jim should play on the right have been significant, but it didn't happen.

I'm encouraged by Grady's common-sense approach and hope that it continues into the future. We wasted Weatherson at full back for two seasons and other players have been played in positions with which they clearly were not comfortable.

Jim on the right might well be Morton's best "new" signing in years

Agreed.

A question is, however, raised - not for the 1000th time.

Where should Superkev be playing? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-29 16:50:51 Threave! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-29 16:52:13
QUOTE(ANDYRITCHESBOOTS @ Sep 29 2009, 02:58 PM) [snapback]653153[/snapback]
your a right **** MJ

Very true my friend and there aren't many ****'s of Mortonjag's class either! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-29 16:52:55
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 29 2009, 04:51 PM) [snapback]653183[/snapback]
East Stirling.

What a team! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-29 16:56:42
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Sep 27 2009, 02:56 PM) [snapback]652576[/snapback]
Whilst for the majority the quick fix and glory always seem more attractive than the longer term and stability surely now is the time for DDFR to give up his quick fix and glory attempt for the SPL and look at the long term stability of the club starting with the appointment of the new manager.

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Measles doesn't want a quick fix but wants a managerial appointment NOW!

Measles knows who the Chairman is.

Measles makes strange comments.

Measles may well have distemper. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-29 17:04:13 We have started a run which will see us in the top four by Christmas. Queens are due an 'off day'.

Away win and good odds I'd imagine!
mortonjag 2009-09-29 17:10:12
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Sep 25 2009, 11:26 AM) [snapback]651859[/snapback]
When Dougie dies there's no gaurantee that Crawford will bail out Morton to the tune of £250 - £300k a season.

That is an extremely worrying aspect but no doubt posters on here will just say take it out his bottomless coffin.

................because Crawford will probably go first? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-29 17:27:57
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Sep 29 2009, 05:12 PM) [snapback]653192[/snapback]
ohmy.gif is that a rogue apostrophe I see, from someone who takes such delight in correcting the grammar of other posters?? Tsk, tsk - don the pointy hat and go and stand in the corner of this forum till further notice, boy!! tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2009-09-29 17:30:26
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Sep 29 2009, 05:09 PM) [snapback]653190[/snapback]
Let's look at those four statements, shall we?

Spot Ton doesn't say he wants an appointment NOW. Quite the contrary, in fact, if you take the time to read the post correctly.

Yes, he probably does know who the chairman is.

Strange comments? Really, Mr Pot??

And the fourth comment is utter nonsense.
So we have misrepresentation, a small grain of truth, ridicule of another poster and finally arrant nonsense, all in one four-line post.

Well done mj - that post sums up everything there is to say about you and your output, only much more concisely than usual. laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2009-09-29 17:32:24
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 29 2009, 05:07 PM) [snapback]653188[/snapback]
Jeez Jaggy, you really do hate the guy, don't you? dry.gif

YIP! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-29 17:34:56
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 29 2009, 05:30 PM) [snapback]653198[/snapback]
He already pled guilty 31 years ago - he done a runner before being sentenced.

Did you hear the one about the pregnant sparrow who opened her legs for a lark? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-29 19:30:11
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 29 2009, 05:58 PM) [snapback]653205[/snapback]
Aye fair enough Jaggy, he's a football manager not a murderer.

I'm so glad I'm not you.

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Only because you don't really know me mon petit choux choux. You are welcome to visit my cellar where the name Mortonjag will assume a whole new meaning for you! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-29 19:34:38
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Sep 29 2009, 06:03 PM) [snapback]653206[/snapback]
And this will happen again for definate ? I understand your fears but thats the bogeyman HS still affecting our outlook on the Ton. Never happened with the swapping of chairmen the hundred odd years pre HS. That appointment was a disaster but not to dare risk any ambition or to say therefore Douglas is untouchable for scare stories of whatifs and couldbes needs to be put to bed. I personally don't think Douglas would be taken in by another HS type character any way even IF he ever sold up(And I hope he doesn't unless he gets this manager wrong again) and if for arguments sake he did we would be far far more alert to it. Morton fans forget how experienced we are and knowledgable about our club and what to do in a time of crisis. Morton fans in general are real fanatics we know our football.

You appear to suggest that in some way the future of the club is safe because of the fans' savoir faire.

I don't quite follow that reasoning.
mortonjag 2009-09-29 19:38:58
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 29 2009, 07:35 PM) [snapback]653219[/snapback]
Here is my wish.

Polanski is dubbed up in a maximum security jail in the US, on the beast wing.

One evening he is invited to another 'guests' cell, where he is plied with hooch and hash.

He is asked very nicely if he is ok, 'no, I want to go back to my cell', "you'll be fine" as the big cuddly beast rams it up his arse and see how he likes it. I then wish this peado to catch the most hideous disease known to man.

A paedo is a paedo whatever their intellect. He deserves to be put down (after his own 'cuddly' encounter of course).

p.s Lawson was right to graphically detail what went on, what’s sad is that we have all these stars and politicians queuing up to defend him, in my eyes that makes them complicit in paedophilia. To defend a beast is inexcusable.

Especially one with sheep lips! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-29 19:42:44
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 18 2009, 07:04 AM) [snapback]648548[/snapback]
On that subject. It definitely wasn't Teddy Sheringham. ohmy.gif

And it wasn't Andy Bryan either.
mortonjag 2009-09-29 19:48:45
QUOTE(MrX @ Sep 29 2009, 07:46 PM) [snapback]653225[/snapback]
I take it Polanski isn't getting charged with paedophlia, as its my understanding that technically a paedophile is someone who has sex with a pre-pubescent child (generally below the age of 12). Isn't he guilty of sodomy of a miner?

The black hole?
mortonjag 2009-09-29 19:59:02 I've met many women over the years who have stated that if they'd had the choice they'd have preferred to be men, but NEVER the opposite. Why is the uglier sex so self possessed and arrogant on account of a smelly wee appendage? blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-29 20:06:52
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Sep 29 2009, 06:21 PM) [snapback]653211[/snapback]
We have a good record down at Palmerston, and I'm going to predict that that record will continue on Saturday. Graham will be buzzing after his goal at the weekend, and I expect him to get amongst the goals again in a 2-1 win, with Jenkins to get the other.

Going by Grady's comments in the tele, i expect to see us line up with more or less the team that finished on Saturday, so something along the lines of

Stewart

McGuffie - Greacen - McManus - Walker

McAlister - Jenkins - MacFarlane - Monti

Graham - Weatherson


Finlayson
MacGregor
Masterton
Grady
McWilliams

I'm excited at the prospect of finally seeing Jim playing on the right hand side, and Monti put in some dangerous crosses off the bench against Airdrie also. I reckon Peter and Brian Graham will do well off that sort of delivery.


I agree. Spoonsy and Graham can both score given enough chances. It's far from perfect, but Casino on the left and Jimbo on the right will be the closest we've been to having two wingers for many, many years. If only that clown Irons hadn't dispensed with LEAFY'S services, Grady would have even more attacking options.
mortonjag 2009-09-29 20:10:29
QUOTE(MrX @ Sep 29 2009, 07:56 PM) [snapback]653228[/snapback]
I see what you did there! Very clever!

Thank you.

I hope you don't think I'm trying to trivialise this trial by footie fan stuff, as I'd hate you to be correct! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-29 20:50:21
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 29 2009, 08:21 PM) [snapback]653234[/snapback]
Erm, what happens if you don't do as your told? A benevolent spell in the gulag?

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Che Edwards!

Daddy knows best.

I give you Monaco and of course, Mortonjag's cellar.
mortonjag 2009-09-29 20:51:48
QUOTE(allenton @ Sep 29 2009, 08:45 PM) [snapback]653245[/snapback]
The good times are just around the corner.Next appointment will be the right one i am sure of that.

Have you been speaking to Mr Donald?

ARE YOU Mr Donald? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-29 20:56:41
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Sep 29 2009, 08:41 PM) [snapback]653242[/snapback]
Because I can piss standing up and don't go insane once a month.

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Let's dispense with a myth Boozie. Women CAN piss standing up - ask Mrs Ton! smile.gif

As to your 'insane' comment, may I have your psychiatrist's confirmation of the frequency of your relapses? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-29 20:59:13
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 29 2009, 08:53 PM) [snapback]653250[/snapback]
blink.gif Did you mean to type 'Chez'? And who's the Daddy? laugh.gif

No, and Mr Longlegs.
mortonjag 2009-09-29 21:02:03
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 29 2009, 08:59 PM) [snapback]653256[/snapback]
No, he meant Che. Next time there's a meet and greet with Mr Fudgy Wudgy he'll be off on his motorcycle.

Don't be cheeky Peter. M. Fudgy Wudgy est passe-n'est ce pas?
mortonjag 2009-09-29 21:03:41
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 29 2009, 09:02 PM) [snapback]653258[/snapback]
Hmmm. I wonder how many are resting in pieces in the cellar. Chez Dr Mentaljag. laugh.gif

236.31 at the last count.
mortonjag 2009-09-29 21:13:43
QUOTE(allenton @ Sep 29 2009, 09:09 PM) [snapback]653263[/snapback]
How did you guess.The good times are just around the corner.We will get a good managernext time.I am sure of that.

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mortonjag 2009-09-29 21:17:30
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 29 2009, 09:13 PM) [snapback]653266[/snapback]
On this matter, I agree with you totally. Although I was told that Russell's loan wasn't arranged by Irons or even wanted by him.

I hope you're not suggesting that Mr Rae was responsible! blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-29 21:21:00
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Sep 29 2009, 09:17 PM) [snapback]653271[/snapback]
I hope nobody on the this board is waiting for Mr Donald to ride to the rescue. laugh.gif

...and I hope nobody on this board is waiting for Mr Rae, or Mr Duncan to dig deep!

Back to your kennel Measles-you've a bone to pick! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-29 21:23:27
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 29 2009, 09:15 PM) [snapback]653268[/snapback]
It would have, but I got it for a couple of quid and Alexton wore it, and my lawn, out in about 2 weeks practising his free kicks.

I think I may have another one upstairs but autographed by the whole QoS team plus Spoonsy after our 4-1 win last season. Offers accepted staring at £5,000.

Get Mileson to sign it and I'll give you £1100! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-29 21:26:15
QUOTE(allenton @ Sep 29 2009, 09:24 PM) [snapback]653276[/snapback]
MJ you should really undertake a number of CBT sessions. It works!!!!

I am a qualified counsellor. CBT can be useful for some! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-29 21:28:51
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 29 2009, 09:23 PM) [snapback]653274[/snapback]
Just sent this email biggrin.gif

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Mr. Gray,

Was wholly unsurprised to read the following from you:

"No mandate. No majority. And no shame."

Given that no party has ever held a majority in the Scottish Parliament, how exactly do you feel that a mandate is granted? If you want all-out FPTP then can I recommend advocating the undoing of devolution and standing for Westminster instead?

But I was taken aback by this gem:

"My Scotland would not be a country where two year-old Brandon Muir dies at the hands of his mother’s boyfriend and the First Minister says “everyone did all they could.†My Scotland would be a country where we would not give up on the 20,000 children living as Brandon Muir lived."

Using something as emotive of the death of a child to score a political point is wise only if you know what you are doing. You come across here only as callow and crass. It's also factually incorrect: the First Minister never uttered the words that your typist placed in quotation marks. What he said, which you would know had you bothered to listen to Parliament that day, is this:

"In a case such as this one, in which a young child has died in desperate and painful circumstances, one thing that we have to do as a Parliament and as a society�â€and I appreciate the way in which Annabel Goldie has been addressing the issue�â€is to ensure that we are doing everything that we can within our terms and responsibilities to meet the challenges that we face. That applies to all of us: it applies to this Parliament; it applies to the Government; and it applies to social work departments and local government. It is our obligation and responsibility.

"One thing I would say is this: the culpability and guilt lie with the person who perpetrated the crime, and not with the social work department or the police. They and we have a responsibility to make society as safe as we can for every young child, but the guilt and culpability lie with the person who perpetrated the crime.

...

"Whatever faults there might be in the Brandon Muir case or any other case, it would be difficult and extremely damaging for any member of the Parliament to allocate blame to social work as a profession�â€certainly, nobody in the Government would do that. We should all remember that, in the vast and overwhelming majority of cases, the people who take those agonising and difficult decisions are doing their best for society and for the children who are under their care."


Then again, given the spin and untruths you and your party are responsible for on a daily basis, a little bit of poetic license like this, to score points off the death of a child, is a drop in the ocean.

For what it's worth I have been upset with some aspects of SNP policy of late, but you can thank you and the rest of your poisonous party for the fact that they will continue to receive my vote until our legislature is rid of New Labour scum like you once and for all.

Wishing you nothing but ill fortune for the rest of your life,

Ewan


Oh dear-another sleepless night for the poor wee soul! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-29 21:34:46
QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Sep 29 2009, 09:33 PM) [snapback]653282[/snapback]
Hopefully all of the above will be sorted for next season.

Hope springs eternal! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-29 21:35:54
QUOTE(allenton @ Sep 29 2009, 09:34 PM) [snapback]653283[/snapback]
I am surprised. You learn something new every day. !!!

You may make an appointment in my cellar should you wish!
mortonjag 2009-09-29 21:37:07
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 29 2009, 09:30 PM) [snapback]653280[/snapback]
CODE
look at meeeeeeeeee!

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mortonjag 2009-09-29 21:39:28
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 29 2009, 09:37 PM) [snapback]653289[/snapback]
You even had all your grammar correct so he couldn't pick you up on that laugh.gif

correctly
mortonjag 2009-09-29 21:40:35
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 29 2009, 09:38 PM) [snapback]653290[/snapback]
one thing for sure it will be ten times better than it currently is

10 X 0 = 0
mortonjag 2009-09-29 21:45:41
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 29 2009, 09:44 PM) [snapback]653294[/snapback]
so you don't back the new academy which will be in place in 2010?

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mortonjag 2009-09-29 21:54:16
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 29 2009, 09:47 PM) [snapback]653296[/snapback]
your post suggests it will not work...

10 X 0 = 0!
mortonjag 2009-09-29 21:56:06
QUOTE(allenton @ Sep 29 2009, 09:53 PM) [snapback]653299[/snapback]
MJ -Any views on changing lives- the move to autonomous practitioner status, have 15 thousand words to find.

Mr Rae is an expert at 'Waffle'! Highly recommended! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-29 21:57:52
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 29 2009, 09:50 PM) [snapback]653297[/snapback]
That makes no sense in what you are quoting

'Correct' is not an adverb. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-30 05:12:18
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Sep 29 2009, 10:13 PM) [snapback]653309[/snapback]
I'll try to clarify my statements. Fear itself can stifle development of this club. I don't fear too much about the worst case scenario of some other HS character getting his hands on our club. I would like to think that we are far too wise and experienced to ever let this happen IMHO (I include Douglas himself in that he too is a fan). HS characters would be crazy to take us for JUST sporting spectators we Ton fans in general have a more understanding knowledge of how to a run a club than most supporters. We are therefore experienced and fanatical(some say boring laugh.gif ) in the interest of the running and caring of our club in that way due to the HS scenario.

OK - do you see Alistair Donald as The Bogeyman?
mortonjag 2009-09-30 05:15:36
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Sep 30 2009, 01:07 AM) [snapback]653349[/snapback]
Mj

Wrong again good sir! 10 x 0 does not equal 0!

I am of course assuming that you understand advanced mathematical notation, since you claim to be a master at everything else, and are familiar with factorials! If not then any first year maths student will be able to help you.... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Anything X 0 = 0, ass! Stop trying to be clever and do what you're good at - braying! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-30 05:20:32 Birch the basterds to within an inch of their lives, and if any scummy social worker type bleats in horror add his little pink botty to the whip round! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-30 05:24:15
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Sep 30 2009, 01:17 AM) [snapback]653350[/snapback]
I was more surprised by Browns new policy of a referendum on PR, after the next election. I can only presume that this is hedging his bets in the event of a hung Parliament. If the Lib Dems hold the balance of power then PR will be their main policy proposition that they would want to see implemented. By offering them a referendum he is perhaps trying to make their choice of potential partners much easier. Is there nothing that Nu-lab will not do to hang on to power... unsure.gif rolleyes.gif blink.gif

I hear Brown is hung like a donkey, Dave! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-30 14:20:07
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Sep 30 2009, 10:56 AM) [snapback]653422[/snapback]
I'll be honest here I am not up to date on Alistair Donald at all. Do you feel he could be the next HS. I would be interested on hearing your information on him and your views of his intentions.
Does Alistair Donald in your opinion see us as "mugs". If he does then as Smeato once said "we'll just set aboot him". That is why I have no fear of The Bogeyman. Its the Macaroon man I am concerned more about. Is he still around or has he gone to the big sweetie shop in the sky.

He is a director of Greenock Morton! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-30 14:21:33
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Sep 30 2009, 08:23 AM) [snapback]653382[/snapback]
MJ

I agree, anything times zero is a big fat zero!

However, your statement was 10 X 0 = 0!

The exclamation after the zero, in mathematical terms, indicates a factorial, click here for info on factorials, and there is a special case for factorial zero (0!). This is defined as being equal to 1.

So effectively your statement 10 X 0 = 0! is equivalent to 0 = 1. rolleyes.gif

So whilst recognising your great grammatical skills, it is clearly obvious that you are lacking in the numbers department. Perhaps for your next trick you can prove that black is white.....oh wait, I think you have already tried that one.... ph34r.gif rolleyes.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2009-09-30 14:28:12
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 30 2009, 09:35 AM) [snapback]653401[/snapback]
The right thing for these guys is a decent spell in the Bar L. Trouble is, custodial sentences cost money and while the politicians will make all sorts of righteous noises, at the end of the day don't want to spend it on prisons and policing. Then of course you've got the army of social workers, probation officers, etc looking after these wee thugs when they've been convicted - by contrast, how much money is spent on the victim?

I'm not sure that just building more jails is the answer - we already have more people in prison than anywhere else in Europe. I do think that we need to embark on a long term social engineering exercise and that should start by measures to restore respect - respect for others, their rights and their property. I think that would include:

1) Much much more discipline in schools. No more allowing kids to wander about the classroom as they please. Re-introduce the belt and other meaningful deterents. Introduce proper citizenship classes.

2) Children need the occasional smack - reasonable chastisement is the term I believe. I don't mean abuse, I just mean a smack on the legs or bum to emphasise that you are in the wrong and there are consequences. Don't give me all this child psychology crap - the 'go to the naughty step' and stuff like that. I have three boys, all in their thirties now, and I think I hit each of them maybe once as kids. They all knew where the line was and not to cross it and I like to think they've all come up knowing right from wrong.

3) It smacks of Nazism I know, but some people should not be allowed to have kids for all sorts of reasons. Take baby P for example. What chance in life did that kid have even if he had not been beaten to death with his junkie mother and father who were only interested in the money for their next fix. If he had survived, what sort of teenager/adult would he have become? I just don't know how to deal with this as taking the kid away into care just means an institutional upbringing which I would not wish on anyone.

4) Police to have greater power to deal with neds

5) Courts to take a harder line on sentencing

Its a couple of generations project but if we don't start, the situation is only going to get worse and worse.

Like you I have three-only two got a good skelping -once each. If parents were responsible, society wouldn't have to cop out as it does.

You can be certain that all the namby pambys on here would soon change their tunes if they had ASB to cope with.

Birch the pink botties till they are rid raw.

If they so much as squeak in complaint-shoot the c*nts! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-09-30 14:32:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 30 2009, 09:32 AM) [snapback]653400[/snapback]
I expect that they have often saved the Ton from relegation.

And from promotion, of course.

And from the Nazis.

And from the Duke of Cumberland.

Are you calling Sheep Lips a Pouffe?
mortonjag 2009-09-30 14:35:28
QUOTE(Gourlay1922 @ Sep 30 2009, 02:30 PM) [snapback]653470[/snapback]
Thats attended no games this season....

He has been absent from God's box. Perhaps he finds the Cowshed more comfy!

More sinned against than sinning is a phrase which springs to mind!
mortonjag 2009-09-30 19:18:30
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 30 2009, 06:27 PM) [snapback]653538[/snapback]
Who need wummin when you can make a hole in a water melon biggrin.gif

Who need water melon when woman have hole?
mortonjag 2009-09-30 19:22:47
QUOTE(Gourlay1922 @ Sep 30 2009, 02:42 PM) [snapback]653473[/snapback]
With all the money he's ploughed in according to you, you'd think he would go to games and board meetings...

That is very true.
mortonjag 2009-09-30 19:24:20
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Sep 30 2009, 04:50 PM) [snapback]653502[/snapback]
I used to feel the same, but one too many anonymous displays in there made me feel otherwise. I actually think he will be more of a scoring threat as a full-back than he would be as a midfielder, as he can get into the box late from cross-balls etc.

Don't confuse the situation under DI with the status quo.
mortonjag 2009-10-01 18:50:10
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Oct 1 2009, 02:59 PM) [snapback]653796[/snapback]
I take it these women came to that conclusion after being with you?

It could hardly have been the reverse! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-01 18:53:51
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 30 2009, 10:38 PM) [snapback]653627[/snapback]
Show me any respected sociologist who bases their theory on 'life experience', bulls*** anecdotes and the Daily Mail and I'll show you a liar. (It's you)

His.


Did you get my p.m? smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-01 18:55:55 So far as I am aware, diamorphine hydrochloride has always been a prescription only drug!
mortonjag 2009-10-01 18:58:30
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 1 2009, 06:56 PM) [snapback]653897[/snapback]
I agree at least we'd be saving those children a life of misery. Methadone has proved totally useless in getting recovering addicts off heroin. It would also halt the drug trafficking of heroin.
I believe they piloted this scheme in parts of Germany and Switzerland where there was an outcry until the people saw how the crime figures dropped.

Correct.

Governmental 'attempts' to deal with drug addiction in this country have been utterly woeful.
mortonjag 2009-10-01 19:05:04 I prefer to listen to Grady. He's talking about official squad training - no mention of any additional effort put in individually. Irons thoroughly sickened the boys with his martinet approach to 'training'.

If we beat Q of S this Saturday he'll maybe give them a day off next week. Good Managers motivate.
mortonjag 2009-10-02 05:37:24
QUOTE(irnbru @ Oct 1 2009, 08:16 PM) [snapback]653916[/snapback]
I'm not so sure. His substitution won us the game but the last thing we need now is a manager who will be a pushover and the players mate. It might work at first but this group of players aren't the type who need to be treated that way.

I think the real worry is why they aren't fit enough to do a few hours training a day and then struggle on a Saturday. Maybe if they trained more they would be able to manage it ok.

Maybe its a bit harsh on Grady though as its obvious they haven't been put through a good pre season by Irons judging by from the start we've had the last few years although if I was a professional player in a team struggling at the bottom of the league I'd want to put in as many hours work as I could to put things right.

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On what premise do you base that statement please?
mortonjag 2009-10-02 05:44:04
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Oct 1 2009, 08:57 PM) [snapback]653930[/snapback]
So there are no female sociologists?

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There are many female sociologists whose understanding and appreciation of English grammar undoubtedly surpasses that of yourself and of SPARROT.
mortonjag 2009-10-02 05:46:33 Morton supporters of the last ten years are valiant by definition.
mortonjag 2009-10-02 06:34:55
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 2 2009, 05:52 AM) [snapback]653987[/snapback]
That's a bold audacious claim.

It's a fact! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-02 06:36:38
QUOTE(leyTON @ Oct 2 2009, 01:47 AM) [snapback]653976[/snapback]
not a problem newt
the left wingers are aw confused, in my haste to lambast them for it, my mask of perfection slipped, albeit slightly

Mask of imperfection? smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-02 06:41:03 Voila
mortonjag 2009-10-02 06:51:58
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 24 2009, 09:59 PM) [snapback]651726[/snapback]
I know young Chris, but power does corrupt. dry.gif

We need a decent press who will keep the buggers in order. happy.gif

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mortonjag 2009-10-02 06:54:49 BTT!

My latest information indicates a 2-1 victory for the Ton with goals from Brian Graham and Stevie Masterton. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-02 10:17:17
QUOTE(irnbru @ Oct 2 2009, 09:12 AM) [snapback]654009[/snapback]
When McInally was in charge he tried to be their mate - didnt work. God knows what Irons tried to be so can't comment on that.

Player power almost never works and the manager will always be seen as a pushover.

In the position we're in just now we need someone who has the authority and respect of the team and isn;t afraid to be strong with them.

We're not exactly blesses with talent just now so need all the training we can get. For the past season and a half we've rarely scored as a result of set pieces apart from scoring directly from free kicks and see about one decent move every game.

If this was Irons or someone else you hated then I'm sure you'd be of the same opinion. Just because he's a nicer guy and probably better manager than Irons doesn't make him right or the man for the job.

Not only has the squad changed, but JG is NOT JM.

You've made a bald statement about the players being pampered and lazy.

I'd like to know how you justify that.
mortonjag 2009-10-02 10:21:02
QUOTE(irnbru @ Oct 2 2009, 09:30 AM) [snapback]654019[/snapback]
I've got degrees from both Glasgow and Caley and can honestly say that the latter had the best quality of teaching and resources.

Admittedly some subjects at the newer universities are a bit daft and just there to increase numbers but times have changed and they cant all be judged as being worse that 'real unis'.

If you read the article you'll appreciate that removing over funding from jumped up 'Techs' is the nub of the matter! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-02 16:04:35
QUOTE(irnbru @ Oct 2 2009, 10:49 AM) [snapback]654063[/snapback]
Some of the squad are still here, they give up easily after losing the first goal, guys like McGuffie need a good shake to get them to put the effort in and they are looking at a relegation battle already. Not all of this is down to having a poor manager.

Can you honestly say that you've seen this squad giving their all for the club and being determined to win games week after week?
Who? Just because Irons was a bad guy as well as a bad manager doesn't mean it doesn't work. There needs to be a bit of come and go with the manager always having the last say in whats happeing.

Can you say honestly that Grady has been the Manager for the last year and a half? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-02 16:06:36
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 2 2009, 10:57 AM) [snapback]654070[/snapback]
If that's the case why do you get men that dress up as women ? And men who who have sex changes ? blink.gif

Because thaey ARE effin wummin ya numpty! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-02 16:24:47
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Oct 2 2009, 03:04 PM) [snapback]654198[/snapback]
Au contraire. If vikingTON had said "his", as you suggested, he would have been implying that there are no respected female sociologists. As he was not implying this, he was correct not to use 'his.' The English language has evolved since you were at school Mortonjag, and using 'their' in that context is now common and perfectly acceptable. Some still look down on that though, in which case the alternative which should be suggested is 'his or her.'

Do you understand? smile.gif

I understand everything and more sonny boy!

Had SPARROT used the term 'his or her', 'their' would have been appropriate. As he chose a non gender specific singular noun, he ought to have used 'his' OR FOR THAT MATTER, 'her' -BUT NEVER 'their'.

As an example:
The expression 'A man goes for THEIR breakfast' has nothing to do with semantic evolution. It is just plainly wrong, and such ignorance is offensive to those of us who have been educated properly. I hasten to add that the media have much to answer for! ph34r.gif

Do youse understand? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-02 16:30:04
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 2 2009, 04:15 PM) [snapback]654227[/snapback]
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What's with the glaicet look Bannock Baws?

I was talking about REAL sexy shaggable XX women who have told me they'd have preferred to have been men.

I've NEVER met a real androgen driven XY male who would have preferred tits and a fud.
mortonjag 2009-10-02 16:32:10
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 2 2009, 04:19 PM) [snapback]654229[/snapback]
I'd assist him. ph34r.gif

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mortonjag 2009-10-02 16:34:35
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Oct 2 2009, 04:22 PM) [snapback]654231[/snapback]
Reminds me of the old joke...

Johnny Shyte is sick and tired of people slagging him off over his name.

From henceforth, he wishes to be called....
Frankie Shyte! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2009-10-02 16:38:36
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 2 2009, 04:28 PM) [snapback]654235[/snapback]
It's a good thing we don't all write in the manner Shakespeare did then.

Mortonjag hates evolution, fact! laugh.gif

Nothing to do with Shakespeare, or Chaucer, or even the Dead Sea Scrolls my lovely little college boy. In this 'advanced' age in which illiterates are paid for turning up at work, singular nouns must still be qualified by singular adjectives!
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mortonjag 2009-10-02 16:45:23
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 2 2009, 04:36 PM) [snapback]654243[/snapback]
Look up 'Scientific Method' in any reputable reference source and you'll find that you are woefully, woefully incorrect. Care to name a source who actually thought the world was flat too?

Logical humans believe the world to be flat until they are taught otherwise.
mortonjag 2009-10-02 16:46:34
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Oct 2 2009, 04:45 PM) [snapback]654251[/snapback]
Yes, I understand your point. I also consider it to be incorrect. smile.gif

Thereby outing yourself as an ignoramus! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-02 16:58:59
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Oct 2 2009, 10:34 AM) [snapback]654051[/snapback]
You really are a complete arsehole, MortonJag.

Coming from the definitive example I regard that as a compliment indeed!

QUOTE(Boozehound @ Oct 2 2009, 10:48 AM) [snapback]654060[/snapback]
Can someone explain to me what exactly defines a "proper" university?

Think of Pavarotti v Karaoke Kathy! She's a rer wee singer mind! dry.gif

QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 2 2009, 01:37 PM) [snapback]654161[/snapback]
I will have to disagree with you on this one Ernie , some of universities are over subscribed and shouldn't deter those unfortunate enough to be overlooked from these establishments from acquiring the highest possible standard of education.

My own adventure will begin next year and at the moment the choices are (because of distance) , the internationally reknowned Glasgow School of Art whose intake is 60% of overseas students which I think undermines our own cultural identity .

or

North Glasgow which are doing a follow on degree course associated with Leeds University .

The GSA are a pompous bloated cash cow who live off of Rennie McIntosh's name who want to continue their elitist dogma.


Chris, the jumped up colleges which dilute the term 'University' are worthy institutions in themselves. It's the old story of only comparing like with like I'm afraid. Greenock Morton could be described as an excellent football club but is unlikely ever to feature in the Champions League.

I assume nobody is upset by my saying that, but DARE to tell the truth about further education and I'm beseiged by 'also rans' with chips on their wee academic shoulders! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-02 17:02:40
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Oct 2 2009, 04:48 PM) [snapback]654257[/snapback]
No, outing myself as someone who recognises that, like many things, the English language has changed over time.

A man gets up in the morning and puts on THEIR clothes.

You are telling me that that is grammatically acceptable!


GOD HELP US ALL! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-02 17:05:09
QUOTE(Cherry Picker @ Oct 2 2009, 05:03 PM) [snapback]654269[/snapback]
you do that but me and you have "business" to attend to first. remember your vaseline and ribbed durex. we need to get that tension out you. now! wub.gif

You wicked wicked man-coming to the aids of a mere virgin boy. It's well known that vaseline destroys rubber! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-02 17:15:52
QUOTE(Cherry Picker @ Oct 2 2009, 05:08 PM) [snapback]654272[/snapback]
im a lady! and that explains a few things. blush.gif

Then I suggest you change your name to Cherry Popper.

I'm sure SPARROT will now find your overtures a complete turn off! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-02 17:21:26
QUOTE(cmdc @ Oct 2 2009, 05:09 PM) [snapback]654273[/snapback]
Not sure I can agree with this - for example, in a traditional subject such as law, there is a good case for arguing that Strathclyde University has at least as strong a law school (if not stronger, in terms of quality of research anyway) than does Glasgow. A bit like Aberdeen and Dundee United raising their game to challenge the Old Firm, perhaps.

Strathclyde has become an excellent University.

Institutions like Pishley and Caley may in time do the same. Until they do they are NOT proper Universities, as prospective employers well know.

A degree from Caley is probably good for a pen pushing job with the Cooncil mind! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-02 17:23:08
QUOTE(Cherry Picker @ Oct 2 2009, 05:21 PM) [snapback]654279[/snapback]
when does vikingTON go to uni? he can share my dorm.

SPARROT is in his second year at Strathclyde. He has learned much from the big books and still dreams of getting his hole.
mortonjag 2009-10-02 17:26:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 2 2009, 05:24 PM) [snapback]654283[/snapback]
Oh dear. How obsessed.

True SPARROT!

Take Barbie's advice and shag a water melon. It'll even listen to you. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-02 17:35:27 I think the 'Movies' declined with the availablity of the car. Talking back seats, the former only equates to grope.
mortonjag 2009-10-02 17:36:39
QUOTE(irnbru @ Oct 2 2009, 05:33 PM) [snapback]654288[/snapback]
I was talking about the players being lazy - the manager shouldn't change that.

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mortonjag 2009-10-02 17:43:47
QUOTE(cmdc @ Oct 2 2009, 05:36 PM) [snapback]654291[/snapback]
Hmm, having only been offering a full law degree for six years (I think?) Caley now has graduates in pretty much all of the major Scottish law firms, as well as graduates in the civil service and in editorial positions of legal publications. That's not to be sniffed at.

It's evolving slowly


Post 1992 Universities v 'Proper' Universities.

read!
mortonjag 2009-10-02 17:46:12
QUOTE(Cherry Picker @ Oct 2 2009, 05:39 PM) [snapback]654295[/snapback]
i only want fresh meat maccaboy. vikington's still to smell the scent of a woman. wub.gif

We usually spell it c*nt! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-02 19:54:17
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 2 2009, 06:28 PM) [snapback]654324[/snapback]
Of course you will totally miss what I said re the business school at Caley and how we get more professional exemptions than both Glasgow and Strathclyde

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I suspect anything written by an illiterate! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-03 09:27:14
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 2 2009, 05:32 PM) [snapback]654287[/snapback]
There are happily married men who dress up as wummin

Wearing your wee kilt is NOT dressing as a woman Claymore C0ck!
mortonjag 2009-10-03 09:30:41
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Oct 2 2009, 08:43 PM) [snapback]654364[/snapback]
I take viagra or an alternative to it on occasion, not often, will be buying tonnes of it next month. Theres a jelly type stuff i eat which is really good, it doenst make it just hard it also makes you randy.; my mate brought me some back from thailand a couple of months back and I will be getting more when I am there next month.

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It's all in your mind. Chivers' orange jelly no longer contains additives! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-03 09:33:10
QUOTE(Cherry Picker @ Oct 2 2009, 05:50 PM) [snapback]654302[/snapback]
disgusting.

vikingTON - please do not let this vile old man scare you. **** is a taboo word for virgins. please refer to a vagina as a flower. wub.gif

A flower? The Clyde estuary springs to mind darling! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-03 09:36:23
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Oct 2 2009, 06:12 PM) [snapback]654314[/snapback]
No I am not. Stop being facetious. You have specified that the gender is male, ergo you should say 'his.'

However, in the case of vikingTON's post, it is not clear whether it is a male or female in question, and as such 'their' is perfectly acceptable.

You are attempting to fart against thunder now! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-03 09:38:54
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Oct 3 2009, 09:32 AM) [snapback]654501[/snapback]
**** me ! A lecture on maturity from Toby !!!!!! I'm off out side to look for the four horsemen of the Apocalypse. That really was one of the very few LOL moments on here in a long time.

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TonInDublin

Toby's developed new tricks since he discovered that drunken brouhaha isn't universally acceptable.

Anyway-do SPARROT a favour - far from being a virgin, I'm led to believe he's a big earner in Kelvingrove Park. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-03 09:41:23
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Oct 3 2009, 09:27 AM) [snapback]654497[/snapback]
to the barricades!

The exact recipe has not been made public (as with Barr's other famous drink Irn-Bru), although a list of ingredients and nutritional data is available on the product itself.
In 2007 Tizer was rebranded with the slogan 'Original Great Taste' and a classic Tizer recipe with fewer additives and no E numbers. It was also been given classic style packaging without the 'Ed The Head' character. However, despite the relaunch making great play of the addition of real fruit juice and the absence of artificial flavourings, colourings and sweeteners, the recipe was re-altered in 2009 to remove all the real fruit juice and reintroduce natural flavourings, natural colours and sweeteners (Acesulfame-K).
mortonjag 2009-10-03 09:45:13
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 3 2009, 09:39 AM) [snapback]654506[/snapback]
Was out a walk today and I got thinking.

There is somewhere in the town that my mum and gran - and through living with one of them and seeing the other a lot for the past 23 years of my life, I also do it - called the Z bend (or zed-bend).

But my dad has never called it this and believes this is something only my mum's side of the family has ever done.
So does anyone here know as to where I'm referring to and do you call it this?
And to add - this isn't relevant for curtaintwitchingsweetiewives.net as it does not involve an incident happening, crime, roads or petty hatred and hasn't typed completely in poor slang that people don't even speak! You know, just before someone says happy.gif

You are correct my little cherub. In my youthful Kilmacolm days we always talked of 'Zed bends' in description of what are more commonly known as 'S' bends.

We also talked about 'Zed beds' but that is a different matter!
mortonjag 2009-10-03 09:48:11
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 3 2009, 09:33 AM) [snapback]654502[/snapback]
Been out a 5 mile walk this morning.

Each testicle is currently sitting at the bottom of a lung!

That's some cold wind!

I didn't realise you'd had a pneumonectomy.
mortonjag 2009-10-03 09:52:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 3 2009, 09:48 AM) [snapback]654512[/snapback]
Not the one I'm thinking of.
I have only heard of one being referred to as thus in Greenock in all my time living here.

United Kingdom English for the American Novice



ZED BEND n. 1. A double bend in the road (similar to an S-curve). After driving the narrow winding roads of England (especially in the South West), an American would feel that the ZED BEND is a particularly appropriate term to use. Roads that only "S" curve are considered to be minor variations of a straight road. A ZED BEND actually does resemble the shape of the letter "Z".
mortonjag 2009-10-03 09:54:34
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Oct 3 2009, 09:49 AM) [snapback]654513[/snapback]
Stolen from Wiki. dry.gif

Taken from Wiki. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-03 09:56:28
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 3 2009, 09:54 AM) [snapback]654521[/snapback]
Surely an American would call it a Zee bend?

If you read the excerpt, you'll see that he'd call it an 's curve'.
mortonjag 2009-10-03 10:01:27
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 28 2009, 01:19 PM) [snapback]652828[/snapback]
I've set out several warnings regarding that guy as a horridly annoying little person with severe life issues. Did you listen?

Reflections! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-03 10:19:10
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 3 2009, 10:09 AM) [snapback]654527[/snapback]
Actually I got castrated then was a little hungry.

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mortonjag 2009-10-03 10:28:40
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 3 2009, 10:26 AM) [snapback]654529[/snapback]
You should know, it happened in your cellar!

That was NOT castration. It is known as humanitarian dissection! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-03 10:30:17 We shall see today whether or not the players seem pampered and lazy.

The proof of the pudding!
mortonjag 2009-10-03 10:32:15 A sure sign of ageing is when 95% of posters on your favourite fans' forum come over as uninformed young prats! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-03 10:38:44
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Oct 3 2009, 10:36 AM) [snapback]654536[/snapback]
............ and the other 5% are obnoxious uniformed old prats. blush.gif

No! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-03 10:42:20
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 3 2009, 09:20 AM) [snapback]654490[/snapback]
I think the result is announced on Sunday.

This was a fantastic example of EU democracy. The Irish had a vote, voted 'no, the EU didn't like this decision by the Irish so ordered another ballot from which the answer should have been a larger 'feck off' but it would seem that the answer is now 'yes'.

Another fabulous milestone in the history of the EU and kind of proves once and for all we get the governments we deserve.

Nothing to do with BLIAR becoming a calf lick then! bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-03 10:48:00
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 3 2009, 10:46 AM) [snapback]654540[/snapback]
Weather's similarly s***e here in G-town. The river's "flowing" to the east because of the wind. Quite impressive to watch, but I'm not looking forawrd to driving in this, as my ear weighs around 4 kilograms.

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mortonjag 2009-10-03 10:51:15
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 3 2009, 10:49 AM) [snapback]654543[/snapback]
Have you not taken your pills yet?

I've taken some, but I might have mixed them up. Saturday mornings can be confusing.
mortonjag 2009-10-03 10:55:42
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 3 2009, 10:52 AM) [snapback]654545[/snapback]
Try the one marked 'cyanide' next rolleyes.gif

Do you think I'm stupid? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-03 11:04:49
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Oct 3 2009, 10:59 AM) [snapback]654549[/snapback]
Jaggy, see before you retired, would it not have been a good idea to have found a hobby or interest to occupy you time?

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mortonjag 2009-10-03 11:07:12
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 3 2009, 11:03 AM) [snapback]654552[/snapback]
It's naw a mini kilt blink.gif

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mortonjag 2009-10-03 11:21:56 wub.gif
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 3 2009, 11:09 AM) [snapback]654557[/snapback]
No. Many other adjectives yes, but stupid no.

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mortonjag 2009-10-03 11:23:54
QUOTE(SherrifFatman @ Oct 3 2009, 11:16 AM) [snapback]654559[/snapback]
Its pretty straight forward, stay within the white lines your car is already in and you wont crash, anyone who cant follow that shouldnt be allowed to own a car, or children, or be let out of their house alone. idiots.

laugh.gif I tried that once and kept going round in circles!
mortonjag 2009-10-03 11:25:25
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 3 2009, 11:15 AM) [snapback]654558[/snapback]
Can you see from that angle ? unsure.gif

I have a nose for rubber! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-03 11:30:02
QUOTE(dazed @ Oct 3 2009, 11:28 AM) [snapback]654569[/snapback]
Vikington has been quoted in todays Pie shop in THE Scotsman talk on the merits or otherwise of Danny Lennon to be the next Morton Manager!

Fame at last-now he's a real chance of getting his hole! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-03 11:47:46
QUOTE(dazed @ Oct 3 2009, 11:33 AM) [snapback]654572[/snapback]
I have no idea about the last part of your post but he has been quoted in "Scotlands newspaper" as it describes itself!

link?
mortonjag 2009-10-04 06:48:47
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Oct 3 2009, 06:45 PM) [snapback]654900[/snapback]
I'm convinced Grady and the players meant the training time should be better used, not reduced, i.e. replace some of the fitness training with technique, ball work and tactics.

I'm delighted that he came in with his own fresh ideas and didn't try to just continue with what DI had already set up. He's obviously been watching and learning and was keen to put his ideas into effect quickly. Although DI is quite a close friend of his, he was quick to comment on why things need changed, traing, tempo, tactics, Jimbo's position etc.

I think we might prove to be very fortunate in landing such a forward thinking manager!

You may well be correct DOT. I think JG might even be able to 'win over' God! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-04 07:05:25
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 3 2009, 11:47 PM) [snapback]654975[/snapback]
Gidday Alibi,

Are you feeling better now ?

Or did you celebrate too much last evening ?

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One more victory next Saturday-confidently predicted by the monkey, and the feel good factor will have been rubber stamped.

I'm astonished at HOW ill informed most posters seem to be when it comes to the dire influence DI had on everything that moved at Cappielow. Ask the groundsman, ask the physio, ask even the hamper boy!

Pampered, lazy, and too much influence-NOT AT ALL.

Lacking in quality versus most other 1st Division sides -NOT AT ALL

This squad has the ability to cause many surprises before May. If we'd really wanted promotion this season Rae should have had splashed more cash to finalise the stuff AD paid for. I reckon we could still be still in with a chance (assuming we made a couple of January signings), but I don't see much progress on the ground improvements! mad.gif




mortonjag 2009-10-04 07:08:08 Rae would be CRAZY to sign a manager when he's already getting results from JG.
mortonjag 2009-10-04 07:11:11
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 4 2009, 01:49 AM) [snapback]654996[/snapback]
From the Queens Mad website:
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Morton number 9 Brian Graham I think was the best centre forward that I have seen at Palmy this season.And I include Boyd and co in this statement.He gave McAusland a torrid time all day.Strange though that a team of players who were getting pumped for fun under Irons should become a better team when Grady takes charge!
**********************************

I endorse that. Well done Brian - I think you are going to do fine as a Morton player now that you have got your chance. David Lilley resorted to fisticuffs to stop you. That shows you had him well beaten.

Do you also endorse the comment in red?

Graham has matured a lot. Many say that is the result of his loan spell at E.Stirling, and it's hard to argue. Nobody matures under Irons.
mortonjag 2009-10-04 07:16:41
QUOTE(vespaton @ Oct 3 2009, 10:39 PM) [snapback]654954[/snapback]
Doesn't surprise me Morton are starting to win now Irons has gone, the players wanted irons sacked and to acheive that they purposely underperformed and coluded thus achieving their objective. How do you go from getting stuffed off Partick to playing top of the table QOS off the park away from home....bit suspect and it's not down to Grady's rookie management skills.

Now with irons gone it's business as usual for the players, we have a team of players capable of a title challange but at the same time they are a spoilt bunch and run things at cappielow. I believe we will go on a winning streak but am wary if we do the present caretaker management setup is not the long term solution.

Give JG and AM till xmas and we should be in a good position in the league then bring in a respectable manager and get rid of the "better than they think they are troublemaking" players as nearly the whole teams contracts expire at the end of the year and they will be playing their asses off now that they think all is sweet at Morton now they got rid of DI.

Even if we finish top of the league I would still get rid of Grady, McManus , McGuffie, Stuart and Jenkins for their part in Irons sacking and get rid of Harding and Wake just for being pure s***e at football.

Brian.


You have some very bizarre notions.

On yer scooter son! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-04 07:26:17 It doesn't matter whether you're organising a football squad, a department store, or a piss up in a brewery, managing others demands mutual respect and a natural flair for motivation.

If people are skilled at something and you can get the best from them, success is guaranteed. You don't need bits of paper from Largs - in fact you don't even need to have kicked a football in your life (Hal Stewart is a good example of that).

Since he binned his latest disaster, I've seen NOTHING to suggest that Mr Rae needs to be rushed into yet another Managerial appointment. The old bod doesn't really excel at those things!
mortonjag 2009-10-04 07:40:08
QUOTE(delboy66 @ Oct 4 2009, 01:18 AM) [snapback]654992[/snapback]
would just like to say guys thanks for a great day, a great performance, thanks James & i am now away to eat loads of humble pie. & come on ye TON.

Be sure to choke on it.
mortonjag 2009-10-07 07:32:16 Guaranteed.

The only good thing about Dingwall was Woolies and it's been shut. Those teuchters are due a revenge humping.

'C'mon ye Ton'! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-07 07:38:20
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Oct 6 2009, 08:22 PM) [snapback]655626[/snapback]
I think you are being disingenuous! Everyone has rights. For me its just that the flagrant disregard of the rights of others should restrict certain rights of the perpetrator. Just so that you are clear, if a little thug is caught robbing a pensioner then he loses the right not to be subject to a good kicking! Not to kill him or lock him up and starve him or anything like that. Just a clear message that he was in the wrong and he will not like the consequences.

That's in my opinion of course and I am very aware that its not very politically correct. It may also be the law of the vigilante but it seems to me that if the police can ignore the 30 odd pleas for help from that lady who committed suicide, that the law that should be dealing with the situation is not working very well.

Is it?

Agreed.

'Political correctness' equates to prostituting oneself for fear of speaking the truth. A few good public thrashings 'pour encourager les autres' and we'd be well on the way back to safe streets. mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-07 07:41:22
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 7 2009, 12:48 AM) [snapback]655686[/snapback]
Much more of this obsession and you guys will need professional therapy. Best of luck.

I have offered that to you before SPARROT, but you clearly are hell bent on self destruction.

BTW, I can guarantee you your hole for £100! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-07 07:48:47 I've done the exercise more times than I care to remember. Use Auto Trader and pay for a proper Glass's Guide assessment first. You can do that on line at Auto Trader and they'll give you a certificate you can print out on line. The trade uses Glass's - other sources can be very misleading.

Having done that prepare your car well-even £100 for a full valet is worth considering, and advertise on Auto Trader using a medium priced option. Include plenty of good photos of the motor, and don't skimp on detail of extras, however small. Don't be too greedy or you'll scare folk off, but don't sell yourself short either. Don't go near the trade - you'll LOSE! blush.gif

Good luck!
mortonjag 2009-10-07 07:52:01
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Oct 5 2009, 12:52 AM) [snapback]655185[/snapback]
An old professor of mine used to say that a certain brand of bottled water was pronounced "derrier" because in a country like Scotland only an 4rse would pay a pound for a bottle of water... rolleyes.gif ph34r.gif laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2009-10-07 07:59:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 6 2009, 11:00 PM) [snapback]655669[/snapback]
I will add however:

The same people who tend to go on about "the worlds gone mad" when things like this come up seem to be the same people who would want to string up the people who put a guy in this position in the first place - along with the actual guy - if it turned out he was getting some kind of sexual gratification from hi-5ing kids and giving them sweets.
It's a very fine line

Exactly-that's why Muslim dames are wrapped up like mummies in case some perv sixty yards away gets a hard on!

Puggs - you are a compliant wimp. You will go far with the Cooncil, son.

The world needs friendly lollipop people. Children should be happy.
mortonjag 2009-10-07 08:05:07
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Oct 4 2009, 04:32 PM) [snapback]655085[/snapback]
When doing a 69 has your nose ever slipped in? Can't work out if I like it or not!!



I'm too old for '69's. I'm always the underdog those days! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-07 08:06:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 7 2009, 07:50 AM) [snapback]655722[/snapback]
Well, MJ, your selection form is as good as the Ton's form on the park.

three in a row - only 20 to go.

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The Monkey has it at 2 - 0!
mortonjag 2009-10-07 08:08:52
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 6 2009, 06:33 PM) [snapback]655576[/snapback]
...this could open a can of worms! ph34r.gif

Tongue hanging out PD? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-07 08:13:22 Good God -folk are SO precious about their wee bits of paper.

I'm SO glad I went to a proper University - it's been the making of me. Every time I've been introduced to a stranger in the last forty odd years my opening shot has included:

'....and from which University did you graduate?' smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-07 08:14:35
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Oct 6 2009, 07:14 PM) [snapback]655596[/snapback]
Does anyone want my old bike. it's a raleigh, its silver in colour and its a hybrid moutain/town bik thingey ?Free to anyone who will collect it. its in reasonable condiotn i suppose, could do with a new chain and tyres i suppose but it's okay for nothing.

MOT'd?
mortonjag 2009-10-07 08:17:23
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 6 2009, 04:33 PM) [snapback]655527[/snapback]
laugh.gif such scintillating, waspish repartee cuts me to the quick....... your humour really does know no beginning....... laugh.gif tongue.gif

The repartee was pish!
mortonjag 2009-10-07 08:19:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 7 2009, 05:21 AM) [snapback]655709[/snapback]
did you mean any imagination ?

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Cooncil workers are paid not to think Newt!
mortonjag 2009-10-08 06:53:59
QUOTE(centralTON @ Oct 7 2009, 01:06 PM) [snapback]655775[/snapback]
Your prices have gone up, credit crunch biting?

laugh.gif You got a cheapie darling-I'm a sucker for coots! wub.gif

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 7 2009, 01:31 PM) [snapback]655780[/snapback]
You're not qualified to do so, proper University or not.

I am SPARROT, though in this case I do humbly confess to a qualification from Anderson's College.

Do NOT underestimate Mortonjag, my microcephalic little virgin! smile.gif

PS £85.99? blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-08 07:01:11
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 7 2009, 02:04 PM) [snapback]655790[/snapback]
People who use the term 'political correctness' in a serious debate are almost invariably morons with no idea what they're talking about.

I take it you're a moron who's 'au fait', SPARROT! rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 8 2009, 12:04 AM) [snapback]655999[/snapback]
Yes. My entire life revolves around my mummy, remember? 1eye.gif

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mortonjag 2009-10-08 07:12:09
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 7 2009, 08:52 PM) [snapback]655923[/snapback]
32nd are based in Mearns Street if you are looking for ones to join smile.gif

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Cubs in kilts give you a hard on? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-08 07:19:13 Ross County should not be mentioned in the same sentence as Greenock Morton.

Thankfully things are looking up again.

We will win this Saturday.

In a short while folk will begin to appreciate that our squad has more quality than it gets credit for. We're only a few signings short.

We could be promoted this season if Mr Rae was wlling to let it happen. shutup.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-08 07:26:29 unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-08 07:30:05
QUOTE(Thekip @ Oct 8 2009, 07:26 AM) [snapback]656020[/snapback]
Take it easy lads, lets not start getting ahead of ourselves here!!!

Do you reckon relegation looms? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-08 07:32:04
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 7 2009, 08:58 PM) [snapback]655932[/snapback]
Ones in bold I have done, italics are additional comments
Also, you do some without getting back on the train? Sacrilege! That's the whole point!!!!

Edit to add - Some not bolded I may have done and just can't remember the names...especially start at St Enough...meaning Cowcaddens etc is usually a blur!

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mortonjag 2009-10-08 07:34:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 8 2009, 07:30 AM) [snapback]656022[/snapback]
Has it been confirmed that VT has any seed to spare ?

I heard he donates it all to the Church! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-08 19:07:30
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 8 2009, 01:37 PM) [snapback]656098[/snapback]
mad.gif



PD jumps to the wrong conclusion AGAIN! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-08 19:10:45
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 8 2009, 01:36 PM) [snapback]656097[/snapback]
...your idea of hell is sick and twisted!

THE idea of Hell is sick and twisted! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-08 19:12:25 I am fond of Gray's Elegy.
mortonjag 2009-10-08 19:24:55 I'll be surprised if we sign a new Manager before the end of the season.
mortonjag 2009-10-08 19:26:33
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 8 2009, 07:21 PM) [snapback]656154[/snapback]
In a country churchyard and not in the Scottish Parliament I presume.

Of course!

I am also fond of Kipling's 'If'.
mortonjag 2009-10-08 19:32:38
QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Sep 30 2009, 09:11 PM) [snapback]653590[/snapback]
The survey has had 413 responses when I looked this afternoon. About 50% say they are trust members and there's been a big response from Partick, Dundee, Dumbarton, East Fife and Kilmarnock fans (in that order) who make up 60% of respondees. However at least one fan of 39 different clubs has responded.

Allowing for 'poetic licence', I'm reading that as 'over 50% choose not to join a Trust! I wonder why that is! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-08 19:38:13
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 8 2009, 01:05 PM) [snapback]656095[/snapback]
try vikington - looks like your bike's the only chance he has of a free ride....... laugh.gif

He'd whip the saddle off, and pedal like f*ck, dreaming all the while of a big tadger up his arse!
mortonjag 2009-10-08 19:40:11
QUOTE(rawheed rex @ Oct 8 2009, 07:36 PM) [snapback]656164[/snapback]
the ****

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mortonjag 2009-10-08 19:51:55
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Oct 8 2009, 07:48 PM) [snapback]656169[/snapback]
Sorry. That name has already been allocated to a board user. rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2009-10-08 20:13:36
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 8 2009, 08:06 PM) [snapback]656176[/snapback]
A nice cup of Gray's Elegy, a slice of Mr Kipling's finest and both feet in the Big Slipper and mj's in hog heaven....... laugh.gif

You forgot the Shelley. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-08 20:16:15
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Oct 8 2009, 08:07 PM) [snapback]656177[/snapback]
I see!

It would appear to me that those you describe as 'not reactionary simpletons' managed to get themselves in charge decades ago and the results are there for all to see. We have a culture of blaming the system/environment/economy and viewing offenders as the victim - it happened because because he is a junkie/deprived/poor education/constipated and couldn't help himself! Meantime therefore, we will just wish it would all get better and hope that sending them to the naughty corner will work!

The reality is that we have at least two generations brought up with little or no input from society at large - they were left to learn right and wrong from their parents and in a significant minority of cases the parents were incapable of delivering a set of morals consistent with live and let live.

The pendulum has swung too far and it needs to come back a bit towards instilling people with a respect for others and their property!

Oh for the days when a murder was front page news for weeks because there were very few, pupils were respectful of their teachers and genuinely afraid of being sent to see the headmaster and beat policemen were able to use a bit of common sense and administer a little rough justice!


If wee fat Smeggy had got his chubby little pink botty scudded once or twice, the world would be a better place! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-09 06:52:40
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 8 2009, 09:13 PM) [snapback]656208[/snapback]
Apologies, Dr Frankenstein (I presume THAT'S the Shelley you meant, or are you partial to a bit of Percy?)!



RAECOMANDIAS
I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shatter'd visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamp'd on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Raecomandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away. biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-09 07:01:49
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Oct 8 2009, 10:08 PM) [snapback]656224[/snapback]
then why ASK for certain people to apply.

One wonders!

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 8 2009, 10:33 PM) [snapback]656232[/snapback]
Like you were surprised that Irons wasn't sacked in the close season? You must be fond of surprises, they could be habit forming though. biggrin.gif

Indeed Mr Edwards, and you'll be surprised when AD comes up trumps! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-09 07:08:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 9 2009, 07:05 AM) [snapback]656272[/snapback]
When he takes the Midden back to Europe ?

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When he takes the Morton back to the top flight Newt! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-09 07:10:10
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 9 2009, 07:03 AM) [snapback]656270[/snapback]
I don't get it Mentaljagias. Why did you change your name? tongue.gif

I was Bysshed at the time Mr Edwards. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-09 07:12:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 9 2009, 06:59 AM) [snapback]656268[/snapback]
A few posters on here have been involved in ship building.

Shell Australia are planning a vessel weighing 600,000 tonnes for its FLNG project off Western Australia.

Shell claims that it will be about two-and-a-half times the size of the WACA oval and will be capable of producing 3.5 million tonnes of LNG, 1.3mt of condensate and 0.4mt of liquefied petroleum gas each year from Prelude for more than 20 years.

I suppose that means it will be 6 to 8 times the size of Cappielow.

It is supposed to be the largest vessel in the world.

But, is it really a ship ?

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A sump with screws!
mortonjag 2009-10-09 07:13:40
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 9 2009, 07:11 AM) [snapback]656276[/snapback]
Hmmm, let me guess. He's going to redevelop Cappielow into holiday homes built around a luxury putting green.? Not another rich man's playground, please no.

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mortonjag 2009-10-09 07:17:25
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 9 2009, 07:15 AM) [snapback]656279[/snapback]
How would a luxury putting green differ fom the one that once graced the Wellpark ?

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Mr Edwards dreams of golden balls? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-09 07:19:22 Morton 2 Teuchters 0 laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-09 07:27:55 ..will obey!DUNOON!
mortonjag 2009-10-09 07:36:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 9 2009, 07:24 AM) [snapback]656284[/snapback]
The luminous ones that they use for night golf ?

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Newt, that is a thought which appals
DE's tattooed luminous balls
All dangly and joogly
One reads - 'I love Shoogly'
The other - ''Niagara Falls'. bag.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-11 08:09:29
QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Oct 10 2009, 06:30 PM) [snapback]656706[/snapback]
How many rumours and misinformation can you get on the one website. Plans for putting up the stand have not changed. It will be up for next season, nothing has changed.

Yer old pal's still skint, you mean! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-11 08:35:12 It will hopefully focus the Chairman's mind.

Yesterday was not about Grady - it was about Grady trying to beat an extremely well balanced and organised side with a weird mixture of misfits and off form players. He got it right at Palmerston, but our weakness in key positions was WELL exposed yesterday. LEAFY could have added some flexibilty to the attack I suppose, if Rae hadn't shipped him off to save pennies!

I'm not going to blame Grady, or the players who were excellent last week. The Ref obviously had a Tampax stuck up his fud, so I'm not going to blame him either.

If the Shooglemeister signs 'Yer wife's a wh0re' before Saturday - so be it. He has a good managerial record and hopefully won't look the wrong way at God.

IF, however, he holds on as is his wont, we'll probably hump the Dee next week - even with our rag bag of players! thumbup2.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-11 08:41:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 11 2009, 07:52 AM) [snapback]656835[/snapback]
http://www.sundaypost.com/postindex.htm
THE “millionaire†businessman who took Gretna Football Club to the big time in the Scottish Premier League died penniless.

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Leaked documents show Brooks Mileson, whose personal fortune was once estimated to be £39 million, went to his grave with known debts of £8 million and assets of just £2.5 million after funding Gretna’s meteoric rise.

Investigators have also identified a further £4 million of debts racked up by the football-loving Carlisle businessman.

The revelations come as the man appointed to sort out the financial affairs of Gretna FC following Mr Mileson’s death confirmed the entrepreneur had left no will.

Administrator David Elliot said the problem had so far blocked his efforts to recover any cash for the businessman’s creditors.
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Will the truth ever be known ?

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Does Millstone care? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-11 08:43:16
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 9 2009, 10:34 PM) [snapback]656495[/snapback]
CODE
Bugger

Who are you calling a bugger, you little turd? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-11 08:48:45
QUOTE(capitanus @ Oct 11 2009, 03:00 AM) [snapback]656823[/snapback]
http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/news/gr...drug-test-fury/

Does anyone with legal knowledge know if anyone whose feelings have been hurt or embarrassed by those culpable for carrying out such tests could possibly have a claim against the recruitment agency?

If so, it would be a good way to get a few quid if the ****s never hired you. I hate recruitment agencies, theyre vermin.

I agree totally-junkies make the best employees. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-11 09:49:13
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Oct 11 2009, 08:47 AM) [snapback]656845[/snapback]
So it's Rae's fault we got beat yesterday? huh.gif

If you say so Ratarse. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-11 11:12:46
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 11 2009, 11:03 AM) [snapback]656877[/snapback]
About 40mg of Librium talking there.

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Chlordiazepoxide, Smeggy!
mortonjag 2009-10-11 11:19:29 Who was he?
mortonjag 2009-10-11 11:24:20
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Oct 11 2009, 08:51 AM) [snapback]656847[/snapback]
I'm not sure I buy into this criticism of the players. Sure they must take a share of the blame for poor results, no question. It is however an entirely different side from the one that collapsed a lead in the second division under McCormack.

Agreed!

The trouble with football is that you're only as good as your last match. If we beat Dundee they'll all be paraded as future internationalists! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-11 11:26:20
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 11 2009, 03:43 AM) [snapback]656827[/snapback]
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One cannot trust any publication owned by the Dirty Digger.

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mortonjag 2009-10-11 11:30:23
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 9 2009, 07:02 PM) [snapback]656462[/snapback]
I was aware of that. May I be so rude to suggest that your social commentary is a bit rich being from afar?

More valuable than yours SPARROT, being from a fart. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-11 11:33:28
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 11 2009, 10:17 AM) [snapback]656863[/snapback]
We're p1sh. End of.

Colin Stewart kept it respectable with a very accomplished performance.

Only Ayr and Airdrie can save us this season. We'll just need to make sure we beat these two teams when we play them and hopefully they remain crap for the rest of the season and we can stay ahead of them.

We were NOT 'pish' at Palmerston last week, Piehole. Were you out shopping with Mummy? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-11 11:34:53
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 11 2009, 11:32 AM) [snapback]656889[/snapback]

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puggsy_ton
Toast on deck!
23 years old
Gender Not Set
Parts Unknown
Born July-30-1986

You should not gamble PD! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-11 11:38:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 11 2009, 11:37 AM) [snapback]656892[/snapback]
CODE
Bugger....wish I hadn't posted that and made a fool of myself, again

Please refrain from calling me a bugger.

Buggerer - if you so desire. wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-11 11:40:52
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 11 2009, 11:38 AM) [snapback]656895[/snapback]
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I wish PD would stop making valid points


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Away and hump a hedgehog.
mortonjag 2009-10-11 11:42:42
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 11 2009, 11:41 AM) [snapback]656899[/snapback]
CODE
He keeps making valid points

Indeed I do darling! I'm itching to get inside your tartan pants this morning BTW!
mortonjag 2009-10-11 11:43:59
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 11 2009, 11:39 AM) [snapback]656897[/snapback]
Yup, this weekend was a pubcrawl in Edinburgh where I had German darts players apologising for the war to me biggrin.gif

Subcrawl better beat that!

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mortonjag 2009-10-11 12:32:00
QUOTE(The Hustler @ Oct 11 2009, 11:48 AM) [snapback]656904[/snapback]
I usually find you entertaining MJ but exactly why you think Leafy would make a difference only you would know. He's a trier but with no class or composure. 2nd Div at best. Another £40k down the stank.
As for trumpeting Grady and McManus not too sure where you're coming from there either. I have stated my dislike for Irons for over a year and his dismissal was long overdue. Howevr a no of the players at Cappielow aint been trying a leg despite some fancy wages and I would include McManus in that statement. It would be a disgrace if he was appointed in any senior capacity. Bottom line is that Rae and the fans have been paying the wages of players who aint been putting in a shift.
As far as Grady is concerned he is not ready for the job. Simple as that.
Given the options available Moore would appear to be the most credible candidate. I actually enjoyed some of the football that Stirling played and maybe he can bring in players who have some some pace and are interested in passing the ball on the deck....unlike most of the current squad who are, in the main, planks of wood. With luck the majority of the exisiting squad will be gone by the Summer and we can get back to playing the Morton way.....hopefully having retained our 1st Div status which is by no means guaranteed.

He would have given us more options up front yesterday - which is what I stated.

I agree with most of your post, though I don't understand the comment about 'trumpeting' Grady and McManus. All I've said is that there's no point in paying out more money at the moment if they can stabilise our position, and I stand by that.

I think you should explain your McManus comment. You may be correct - it's just that I don't understand what you mean when you claim that 'it would be a disgrace' - after all you wanted rid of Irons too! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-11 12:34:18
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Oct 11 2009, 12:20 PM) [snapback]656915[/snapback]
From where I was sitting in the stand, the County guy shot from the edge of the box and Stewart appeared to have it covered when a foot appeared and deflected it into the corner, wrong footing Stewart. From where I was, I thought it was Stewart Greacen's foot.

Anyone else see it that way?

Sunday Mail comment appears to confirm that.
mortonjag 2009-10-11 12:35:09
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 11 2009, 12:30 PM) [snapback]656925[/snapback]
Every single day sad.gif

Off you pop then PD! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-11 12:35:46
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 11 2009, 12:02 PM) [snapback]656909[/snapback]
What a pr1ck! wub.gif

Boasting does not become you.
mortonjag 2009-10-11 12:37:24
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 11 2009, 12:20 PM) [snapback]656914[/snapback]
A Boy Band Buftie ph34r.gif (ducks for cover as the homophobic allegations fly)

Was his death in any way connected? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-11 12:38:48
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 11 2009, 12:22 PM) [snapback]656917[/snapback]
By that reckoning many of our practising GP's would no longer be in that job.

That right MJ, do GP's not have a history of drug abuse. wink.gif

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'Abuse' is a flexible word, Barbie! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-12 06:56:06
QUOTE(The Hustler @ Oct 11 2009, 01:18 PM) [snapback]656945[/snapback]
If someone doesnt try a leg in order to get the manager sacked whilst picking up a healthy paycheck paid for by fans and Mr Rae....is that the sort of individual that should be rewarded?
Unfortunately there are many deficiencies in our team and the current management duo are two of them....just because we are already paying them you think they should get the job?!? Are you serious? On that basis I'll take the job free of charge. Or better still let Dougie be the manager....sack half the players....makes sense from a budgetary perspective eh.
Alternatively we could employ someone who has managed excellently with no resources for 7 years and start planning for the future.
Doesnt that make more sense?

No change then! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-12 06:57:49
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 11 2009, 05:39 PM) [snapback]656997[/snapback]
And the jag got it horribly wrong, as usual smile.gif

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Mortonjag's monkey, unlike his mentor, is not infallible PD! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-12 07:02:04
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 12 2009, 12:57 AM) [snapback]657105[/snapback]
He has had at least the second highest budget in that league for the last two seasons. So forgive me if I don't look out the bunting for his startling success.

Have a ham shank? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-12 07:04:44
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 11 2009, 01:29 PM) [snapback]656951[/snapback]
I was told by a reliable source that BIG DOM is embarrassing the tiddlers at bath time hence the reason he has been bombed out smile.gif

Blackballed? blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-12 07:09:29
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 11 2009, 01:34 PM) [snapback]656952[/snapback]
What's wrong, is someone not responding to your PMs?

Nothing is wrong SPARROT.

People invariably respond to my p.m's. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-12 07:21:11
QUOTE(Harelaw @ Oct 11 2009, 11:57 PM) [snapback]657086[/snapback]
The was a wee singer called Gately
Who hasn't been singing much lately
After a bottle of Rum
And a **** up his bum
His trip to the sun ended fatally

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Hidden talent Sir, and may I paraphrase:

The passing of Gately is rum
The inquest report's still to come
But I've heard - and of course
From a very good source -
That a banger went off in his bum! unsure.gif

mortonjag 2009-10-12 07:43:15
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 12 2009, 07:12 AM) [snapback]657125[/snapback]
Blaming soft toys is a clear sign you should probably stop treating yourself smile.gif

Probably! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-12 07:45:55 Smile.
mortonjag 2009-10-12 08:54:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 12 2009, 08:50 AM) [snapback]657138[/snapback]
I'll check the cornflakes later. laugh.gif

You should be eating All Bran! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-12 09:18:52
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 12 2009, 08:56 AM) [snapback]657140[/snapback]
So speaks the jobbie checker. No thanks, I'll take my chances. tongue.gif

JOBBY!
mortonjag 2009-10-12 09:21:31
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Oct 12 2009, 09:17 AM) [snapback]657146[/snapback]
Over the years it has seemed that you are privvy to inside info TiD, any chance on elaborating on the point in red?

If your point is true, I'd suggest that perhaps Dom would be due ( a ) a bonus or ( b ) a pay rise or ( c ) an extended contract if he played x amount of games for the Ton. This wouldn't be a strange contractual agreement given his poor injury history before he came here. Maybe now we can't afford to meet the costs of ( a ), ( b ) or ( c ) so he's not being selected in order that the clause will not be triggered?

This is just my wild speculation, it would be nice to hear the truth though, even it if wasn't particularly favourable to the club.

I may contact you for lessons in diplomacy! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-12 15:06:00
QUOTE(MaxTon1874 @ Oct 12 2009, 02:31 PM) [snapback]657241[/snapback]
So when is the new stand going up ? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2009-10-12 15:09:33
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Oct 12 2009, 12:10 PM) [snapback]657170[/snapback]
Check your milk as well.... I pissed in that. blush.gif

Carton or bottle? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-12 15:15:04
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 12 2009, 02:51 PM) [snapback]657252[/snapback]
Thanks for the posts above, can't be bothered to quote them. It's always good to be slagged off by men who are just a little bit unsure of their own sexuality. rolleyes.gif

Right Peter I'm about to make you happy.

McArthur hates Paedos but loves Pouffes.

As for paedopouffes -he's AC DC on them! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-12 15:39:14 He made very good saves on Saturday. If he learns how to command the box he may take over from Cuthbert!
mortonjag 2009-10-12 15:45:10
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Oct 12 2009, 12:51 PM) [snapback]657185[/snapback]
I sometimes ask myself why our Chairman bothers

Because he is the archetypal self effacing humanitarian.
mortonjag 2009-10-12 15:56:02
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 12 2009, 03:48 PM) [snapback]657285[/snapback]
Ach well, maybe another time rolleyes.gif
Cheers, thanks for the positive feedback.
Fancy a ****?
What he said
Christ was a muppet? you'd be in good company then.

BTW, if you want me to answer seriously, if a j list homosexual celeb cops it, in his own spew, with his head buried in a pillow and his arse in the air and someone starts a thread about it what do you expect? Tears and snotters? Maybe some do use humour to get through heart breaking times, I know i did when my old man died as that is they way he brought me up and would have wanted me to see he funny side of everything, so much so at his funeral something happened (I won't go into detail) that had literally dozens of folk, including my dear old mother, rolling around laughing. That’s not to demean my dads passing, its the way he was.

I didn't know Gately, did you? If you did I apologise for upsetting you but maybe it IS time to get your head out of your arse. If you don't like what is being written don't read it. And don't presume to known what some of us have went through in regards to death.
Have you lost a friend to drowning despite your best efforts to save them, have you failed to resuscitate a dear old neighbour who had a fatal heart attack in front of you, have you had to tell your wife her younger sibling had passed away? Have you had to deal with your own unborn passing away? I could go on, and on regarding my experiences of woe and heartbreak.
Maybe you have, maybe you haven’t but to presume we are all muppets and immature (not to mention the homophobic slur YOU dished out) shows your downright up yer ain arsness attitude.

Remove your head from your bum and as Jim said get over it.
A wee ex boy band boy cops it and suddenly the world stops going round.
I wonder who the muppets really are rolleyes.gif

Perhaps he keeps it there for security! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-12 15:58:23
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 12 2009, 03:56 PM) [snapback]657291[/snapback]
Doesn't ****ing help when you have a bloody chest infection that just won't go way, cannot walk 100 yards without feeling like collapsing, are on drugs that are wiring me to the moon and have (temporarily supposedly) ****ed up my vision in my left eye so much that I cannot read a thing with it. Had to get an x-ray on a troublesome calf too(my muscle wan, naw the wee calf up the hill)
I can't have a drink, I can't go out a walk, I am today officially miserable.
I'll not be ****ing smiling………but this site may just cheer me up no end.

You sound like half the Ton squad! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-12 16:00:19
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Oct 12 2009, 03:58 PM) [snapback]657293[/snapback]
Only if he was a one-eyed Pakistani or homosexual. tongue.gif

....Paedo? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-12 16:04:29 Geryphobia
mortonjag 2009-10-12 16:09:18 It depends on Saturday's result I'd guess.

IF we hump the Dee, he will stick with the status quo. happy.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-12 16:10:41
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 12 2009, 04:07 PM) [snapback]657313[/snapback]
Achh, ow yin, I like ye ( I don't love ye, i'm far to homophobic for that nonsense) wink.gif

Can one be TOO homophobic? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-12 16:12:51
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 12 2009, 04:11 PM) [snapback]657319[/snapback]
I would have thought that calling someone 'one eyed' would be the same as calling them one legged or two legged even.

EH? 1eye.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-12 16:13:59
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 12 2009, 04:11 PM) [snapback]657320[/snapback]
I'm not so sure now MJ.

I mean REALLY hump! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-12 16:15:21
QUOTE(capitanus @ Oct 12 2009, 04:13 PM) [snapback]657322[/snapback]
It doesn't make you responsible, but i know that if certain others on this messageboard posted it or something similar about an ethnic group you'd be one of the first to mount your moral high horse.

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mortonjag 2009-10-12 16:17:32
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Oct 12 2009, 04:16 PM) [snapback]657329[/snapback]
I think we can file that under, things mortonjag has said that don't come true!

Don't-it's dangerous! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-12 16:19:52 I'd honestly never heard of that Gately fellah. OK, he's pan breid at an early age. So was Jesus, and I don't give a f*ck about that either.
mortonjag 2009-10-12 16:21:33
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 12 2009, 04:19 PM) [snapback]657332[/snapback]
I feel like it, never been so bloody miserable in all my days, just one after another at the moment. Getting better, albeit slowly, I just want to stop taking the tabs, I feckin hate taking wee man made pills.

Cheer up-you could be a pouffe with piles.
mortonjag 2009-10-12 16:23:28
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 12 2009, 04:21 PM) [snapback]657335[/snapback]
Japs Eye laugh.gif (oh feck, i've done it again)

McArthur will be nipping in a wee mo!
mortonjag 2009-10-12 16:26:01
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Oct 12 2009, 04:22 PM) [snapback]657337[/snapback]
I just knew you'd come onto this thread and type some traduced comment aimed at Rae.
Are you jealous of the man's achievements in life? Is this why you seem to hold him with such distain? I only ever see you making remarks that frankly show you to be covetous of oor Dougie! rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2009-10-13 07:48:30
QUOTE(forza ton @ Oct 12 2009, 06:18 PM) [snapback]657394[/snapback]
mj did i clock you having a smoke at halftime on saturday? outside the gate at the end of the stand?

If you did, you failed to salute! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-13 07:56:14
QUOTE(garymcc1874 @ Oct 12 2009, 10:20 PM) [snapback]657483[/snapback]
Dougie Rae taking the cheapest way out as per? What a ridiculously untrue thing to say .. and how the fck would Reid - currently in a job with a team in the same league as us and under contract for a further season after this I believe - be a great example of taking the cheap option? blink.gif

And to the people confidently saying it's Moore, it's definitely Moore, it's a former employee etc ... you're guessing, otherwise we wouldn't be waiting until after Saturday's game. Dougie won't even know who the next manager is yet, therefore you don't. Stop claiming to. :smile.gif

It is 100% accurate. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-13 08:00:19 Allan McGraw stated in the Tilly that Morton could have survived without Rae.

Just a wee thought! crying.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-13 09:14:18
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 13 2009, 08:12 AM) [snapback]657539[/snapback]
Misery, sheer misery, I now have an explosive arse, what next I ask, what next. unsure.gif

Those bloody antibiotics Barbie! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-13 09:18:21
QUOTE(giz @ Oct 13 2009, 08:19 AM) [snapback]657540[/snapback]
I have no reason to dispute what Allan has said above but I would like to have someone explain to me how this would have happened.
I was in attendance at the Gantock Hotel the night the "last" minute package was produced by Douglas Rae.
As far as I was led to believe it was either receive the offer or we were history????

I would too. Perhaps Mr. McGraw knows the answer.
mortonjag 2009-10-13 09:25:01
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 13 2009, 08:40 AM) [snapback]657547[/snapback]
I don't understand why the announcement is being delayed till Saturday. Anyone know ? Unless it's a contractural thing I don't see the point.

I personally think Grady and McManus will be given the job at least till the end of season.
When we are doing things like sending Russell to Alloa to save money, what's the point of bringing in a new management team at a cost of between £80k to £100k ?
With the payoff to Irons and Collins and bringing in an outside management team (with possible contract payoff) you could be looking at spending £160k to £200k on coaches this season alone !
That's crazy money for our Club to spend this season. I don't know how good Grady and McManus can be as coaches, but I'm confident they could keep Morton in the 1st Division this season.
Financially that's our best option as appointing James and Allan could free up funds to strengthen the squad next season.

I agree. If we were about to spend a lot of money, I'd like an experienced Manager installed now with a real go for the SPL this season.

It seems certain, however, that everything's on hold till next May. Money may then be available but not from historical sources.

Why on earth would Mr Rae want to splash more cash if Grady and McManus can steady the ship?
mortonjag 2009-10-13 09:31:46 I've not lived in Greenock since I was three years of age, and left 'The Port' when I was six. Having lived in fifteen different locations in the Central Belt, I think Greenock is a fine town, with unsurpassed views of the Clyde estuary, a desirable West End, and a burgeoning waterfront development.

Every town has its sh*tty areas. Judging on those alone Embra is the pits!
mortonjag 2009-10-13 09:33:52
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Oct 13 2009, 09:19 AM) [snapback]657555[/snapback]
Yet he didn't happen to go into any details of how this may have been achieved? How convenient.

McGraw is just another old boy that has a chip on his shoulder regarding Rae. rolleyes.gif

P.S You shouldn't believe everything you read in the Tabloids!!

I respect Mr McGraw.
mortonjag 2009-10-13 09:41:37
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 13 2009, 09:39 AM) [snapback]657565[/snapback]
That's the bit you should have highlighted, MJ. McGraw was a great servant for the club, but I just don't buy into his latest ramblings.

Those who have 'bought into' the ramblings of our Chairman have oft been disappointed! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-13 10:12:10
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Oct 13 2009, 10:09 AM) [snapback]657573[/snapback]
As do I !! wink.gif
I was more referring to the Jag with that comment!!
McGraw is a legend and assembled the best Ton team that I've ever seen. Seems like people hold McGraw with much more affection than Rae. Would have been interesting to see how much abuse McGraw would get if he had been in the same situation that Rae is in the now (i.e Owning the club). Allan McGraw has admitted he should have done more during the dark old days of the Scott era, I don't see people clambering to have a pop at him because of it tho!! ph34r.gif

Cop out! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-13 10:18:31
QUOTE(ANDYRITCHESBOOTS @ Oct 12 2009, 05:49 PM) [snapback]657376[/snapback]

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mortonjag 2009-10-13 10:36:34
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Oct 12 2009, 09:02 PM) [snapback]657437[/snapback]
He commands his box better than Cuthbert and is considerably better at dealing with cross balls. Stewart is still susceptable to occasionally punching when it would appear better to try and catch the ball, but I have said from day 1 that I would be happy with either Cuthbert or Stewart in goal.

If standing rooted to the goal line is 'commanding the box', I can't disagree with you. His reflex saves on Saturday were excellent, and he often narrowed the angle well, but for a big man his efforts with cross balls are pathetic.
mortonjag 2009-10-13 11:45:44
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 13 2009, 10:56 AM) [snapback]657585[/snapback]
Aye, 1 more day to go and hopefully I don't need to stay within giant step distance of the bog.
I've got to go to the Chemist at lunchtime, I am literally s***ing myself at the thought of the 20 min journey. unsure.gif

Get some Imodium.
mortonjag 2009-10-13 11:47:07
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 13 2009, 10:47 AM) [snapback]657583[/snapback]
With all due respect thats the kind of response I would expect of someone who hasn't lived here for over 50 years.
There is no denying every town does indeed have its s***ty areas, but at times I think Greenock invented them.
Oh, and BTW, large parts of the 'West End' are saturated by smackheads. IT will also be interestin to see how many 'real jobs the Waterfront creates, they are after all wasting a large part for a Marina, something your average Greenockian will only be able to look at, nothing there of substance really.

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mortonjag 2009-10-13 12:23:32
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Oct 13 2009, 12:05 PM) [snapback]657597[/snapback]
Maybe Rae is looking beyond keeping us in the division this season. Bring someone in now would mean that come the relevant windows the manager (whomever he maybe) would have the chance to make it his team. It would be unfair to give it to Grady until the end of the season and then say thanks but no thanks. If he is to get then fair enough but it needs to be on a longer term.

You think he wants us relegated? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-13 12:24:47
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Oct 13 2009, 12:21 PM) [snapback]657599[/snapback]
I used to. Now I work in an upmarket restaurant. happy.gif

Chucked the Uni already? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-13 12:27:38
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Oct 13 2009, 12:25 PM) [snapback]657603[/snapback]
Eh, taking a year out!

SPARROT too much for you? blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-13 13:03:22
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Oct 13 2009, 12:36 PM) [snapback]657606[/snapback]
If you only knew. sad.gif

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mortonjag 2009-10-13 13:06:33
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 13 2009, 12:30 PM) [snapback]657605[/snapback]
unsure.gif You think that pish was worth posting?

Through your letter box and by the gallon. wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-13 13:07:44
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 13 2009, 10:40 AM) [snapback]657582[/snapback]
he probably got the Raeber ear.......

Scintillating wit! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-13 13:21:51 Don't see any mention here of choking on puke!
mortonjag 2009-10-13 13:32:07
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Oct 13 2009, 01:28 PM) [snapback]657619[/snapback]
Aye, but that also doesn't mention heartache induced by 'husband' in the room next door pumping a Bulgarian fella he'd just met in the boozer... ph34r.gif

Buggering a Bulgar?
mortonjag 2009-10-14 06:09:39
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 14 2009, 12:10 AM) [snapback]657774[/snapback]
Take a sneaky peek through the gap in your curtains and you'll see them: smackheads, hopheads, hotheads and knobheads....... they're everywhere about you know, all around us they are. Running in the shadows and hiding from the helicopter. biggrin.gif

prudent!
mortonjag 2009-10-14 06:20:54 Let's get one thing straight. If buftie boy had a heart condition serious enough to cause acute pulmonary oedema, he would not have been able to prance about on stage like a fairy.

It's possible he may have had some cardiac defect, but of a degree which would have required significant additional factors to precipitate him into heart failure. Those possibilities include excessive alcohol, nicotine/smoke ingestion, and drug (?narcotic) overdosage.

Young men of 33 with no previous symptoms just DON'T die ('of natural causes rolleyes.gif ') from acute heart failure in restful domestic situations! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-14 06:25:46 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

FFS I've heard it all now.

May your god dog go with you! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-14 06:28:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ Oct 13 2009, 06:44 PM) [snapback]657705[/snapback]
Well why did the fans not want him anywhere near the team if it wasnt for errors he made months ago, yet a manager isnt allowed the same opinion...a manager who sees him every day they train.

Manager in not thinking a player is good enough shocker. ohmy.gif player in not being happy that his manager doesn't think he is good enough shocker ohmy.gif . manager in telling player he doesn't think he's good enough shocker. ohmy.gif

This is what i love about the world of football, its full of little surprises that make it all worthwhile.

PT describing Sheep Lips as a Manager-SHOCKER! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-14 06:32:59
QUOTE(delboy66 @ Oct 13 2009, 03:34 PM) [snapback]657655[/snapback]
There is no way your friends. Grady & Chalky. will get the Morton job you say they will steady the ship well after that poor performance on saturday. there chance has gone. Dundee i think will give us a right going over on saturday.
then hopefully at the start of next week Mr Rae will make is usual big speech about how our new manager will take this great Morton team forward. its a three horse race at this moment between Moore, Moore, or Moore. take your pick but this who its going to be. its the worst kept secret in the whole of scottish football at the moment. & then hopefully Mortonjag will crawl back under his stone & never be seen again. tongue.gif

I can almost smell your rancid spunk, son.

Grow up. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-14 06:36:43 Give him a game. He may redistribute some of his future earnings. That will be good for the country.
mortonjag 2009-10-14 07:34:03
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 14 2009, 07:24 AM) [snapback]657802[/snapback]
rancid ??

does it have enough fat to turn rancid ??

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Possibly not!

Semen is made of the following substances:



aboutonia;
ascorbic acid;
blood-group
antigens;
calcium;
chlorine;
cholesterol;
choline;
citric acid;
(DNA);
creatine;
fructose;
glutathione;
hyaluronidase;
inositol;
lactic acid;
magnesium;
nitrogen;
phosphorus;
potassium;
purine;
pyrimidine;
pyruvic acid;
sodium;
sorbitol;
spermidine;
spermine;
urea;
uric acid;
vitamin B12
mortonjag 2009-10-14 16:35:43
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 14 2009, 08:53 AM) [snapback]657819[/snapback]
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Settled now but I seem to have another phase (feels like a daily health report on here)
I have been up since 4:45 and can't stop ****ing sneezing, I think I have every bug known to man having a pop at me. sad.gif

HIV? biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-14 16:44:55
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 14 2009, 10:59 AM) [snapback]657841[/snapback]
My superiority complex comes from dealing with idiots every day of my life. rolleyes.gif

Gately achieved an amazing amount despite having limited talent. In the same way that ambition of success drove the likes of Geri Halliwell and even Jade Goody to better their circumstances. I'd imagine that they thought it better to see the world using what they had than to be stacking shelves at Asda.

The hatred aimed at him on in this thread because he was a homosexual is disgusting frankly and takes me nicely back to my first time in Mr Brown's cupboard.

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mortonjag 2009-10-14 16:54:37
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 14 2009, 02:34 PM) [snapback]657912[/snapback]
Behave Mortonjag!

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mortonjag 2009-10-14 17:01:02 I'm told that in his wallet there's
A snap of naked Gately
A sort of aphrodisiac
Which makes his knob grow greatly. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-14 17:03:05
QUOTE(bobby @ Oct 14 2009, 04:56 PM) [snapback]657961[/snapback]
Dooogie will start what he 'FINNISHes'

The Monkey's had an acknowledgement of his application too. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-14 17:16:52
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 14 2009, 05:08 PM) [snapback]657966[/snapback]
so how many are on the boards short list?

Just the one! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-14 17:54:40
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Oct 14 2009, 05:36 PM) [snapback]657976[/snapback]
Y'know that pretty much sums up my life as well (apart from the grown up kids). sad.gif
Edit to add - I dont think i've ever eaten a deep fried scotch pie though. laugh.gif

Bloody hell Ape-you've never had pie and chips oot a Chippy? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-15 06:25:59
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 14 2009, 11:15 PM) [snapback]658031[/snapback]
Just looked at that picture again and it's uncannily like me. blink.gif

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mortonjag 2009-10-15 06:29:22
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 14 2009, 09:20 PM) [snapback]658008[/snapback]
If I were in the position of having a secured income, I'd be out of this dump soon as possible. Sorry if I'm being my own worst enemy in not falsely painting a massive grin about things.

Go full time in Kelvingrove Park. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-15 06:33:11
QUOTE(forza ton @ Oct 15 2009, 12:37 AM) [snapback]658042[/snapback]
the weather in the west of scotland in the past 20 years has changed soooo much. i'm well aware that our weather here has always been changeable (due mainly to the north atlantic drift and not the gulf stream as many,many morons will spout) but there has been a noticeable shift in our climate. where are the the sustained high pressure systems? where are the snowdrifts when we would have 10 days of snow and ice? where are the "slides" on the streets? not just a pot of cold water poured on a path but the "white ice" slides when the snow lay for 10 days and iced over.
when is it ever hot and dry enough for water shortages and days and days without precipitation when rain felt like a novelty?
this is not to do with rose tinted spec views of my youth. it's ****ing changed man. grey, mild, winters, springs,summers and autumns.

it's pish noo. mad.gif

There is no comparison between the weather now and that of my childhood. I was out walking the dog last night-mid October-wearing only a thin short sleeved shirt (oh and my troosers).

The 'summers' now are disappointing and unpredictable even compared to those of thirty years ago, and our winters have become very mild. I don't blame God for all this, but he ought to get it sorted pronto, or Church membership will keep dropping..
mortonjag 2009-10-15 06:35:43
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Oct 14 2009, 09:35 PM) [snapback]658011[/snapback]
FT Ayr United 2-2 Dundee

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It's a tight division indeed!
mortonjag 2009-10-15 08:37:10
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Oct 15 2009, 08:35 AM) [snapback]658070[/snapback]
Oh dear Mr Irons, I am not sure you have done yourself any favours there my friend.

"It was all their fault, I didn't do anything wrong" Doesn't really wash.

Do you have a link to the story?
mortonjag 2009-10-15 08:40:07
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Oct 14 2009, 11:56 PM) [snapback]658039[/snapback]
Sadly enough your probably right, who would have imagined a labour cabinet that had a majority of members that have offshore bank accounts for tax reasons.
Wonder what Keir Hardy would think?

That you can't spell his name? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-15 09:04:17 To me the story reads like a rapist girning because his victim finally gained the courage to fight back and cut the b*stard's balls off! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-15 09:05:45
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 15 2009, 09:04 AM) [snapback]658094[/snapback]
That makes a change... rolleyes.gif

Not at all. I always put them on come evening.
mortonjag 2009-10-15 09:07:11
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 15 2009, 09:01 AM) [snapback]658089[/snapback]
Thanks Doc, **** going to you for a diagnosis. BTW, I feel a hell of a lot better today. Just knackered so I think my recovery is imminent.

Most ailments get better by themselves. Either that or you die. Medics are in general charlatans.
mortonjag 2009-10-15 09:20:16
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 15 2009, 09:08 AM) [snapback]658098[/snapback]
It's accurate.

It was some months back.

Motive was that the U19's were coming along well, when parents are unhappy how can McManus be blamed?

The undercurrent may still be there but its NOT the doing of Grady or McManus.

There is more, much much more about this guys tenure and I for one would have not worked under him, it would all have ended messy if I was treated as such by my boss. This is a million miles away from the Cowboy scenario when Rae took the side of players who had spat the dummy out, not players who had just had enough of Irons management style and had tried on numerous occasions to address it within the dressing room with no success. Remember Irons and Grady were pals for years.

....and it's only one of many similar stories, and it WAS NOT about the players needing more discipline. He treated the youngsters like sh*t on his shoe. When one set of parents complained to him and simultaneously to God, Sheep Lips 'phoned them at home saying 'He hoped they could live with the consequences'.

He behaved like a spoilt Prima Donna in the dressing room - on one occasion, in a huge cream puff he thew a boot into the corner expecting one of the kids to retrieve it for cleaning. They sat tight, and Collins had to pick it up!

He refused to let players attend Stevie Masterton's Dad's funeral.

There are many other well documented stories, going right back to the Newby fiasco, and I wish DDFR had dispensed with his services months ago.

He claims to have achieved something at Cappielow - infamy - nothing less! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-15 09:25:57
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Oct 15 2009, 09:25 AM) [snapback]658104[/snapback]
Infamy, infamy, they had it infamy.

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mortonjag 2009-10-15 09:44:06
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Oct 15 2009, 09:32 AM) [snapback]658111[/snapback]
Anyone feel sorry for DC in all this?
Personally I think he's up his own arse but I may be wrong!

Ask the players! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-15 09:48:48 The managerial post at Cappielow has been advertised, and interviews are apparently taking place. It doesn't follow that Mr Rae will decide to appoint an outside candidate.

Dundee slipped last night. They are beatable - just like the rest of the first division. If that happens I'd retain the status quo for the time being.
mortonjag 2009-10-15 09:55:52
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Oct 15 2009, 09:52 AM) [snapback]658126[/snapback]
if what happens ??? youve been asking for a new manager for bloody ages.. now you dont want one ? could be dementia mj.. i'd get it checked out wink.gif

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By all means have it checked, though I'd suggest you just have a convenient memory. As soon as Sheep Lips got his come uppance, I asked Mr Rae to 'take his time please'.

Perhaps you hadn't noticed my tiddling little signature dear! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-15 10:15:21
QUOTE(ANDYRITCHESBOOTS @ Oct 15 2009, 10:03 AM) [snapback]658132[/snapback]
Hey DOC...whats good for manflu (ie a really heavy cold/no energy/choking feeling from the nipples up)

Something nearly instant working

If it's flu, you have to let it run its course. If it's a bacterial infection you need antibiotics.
mortonjag 2009-10-15 10:35:24
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 15 2009, 10:27 AM) [snapback]658144[/snapback]
If it wasn't for my GP's quick response I may be wormfood (being unable to breath properly can result in death i'm led to believe). I went back and thanked him personally and intend to send him a wee thank you card. I don't think people appreciate the work they do enough. My GP's have always been excellent when I have needed them. My retired one used to pop in to see my old Granny on his way home when she was terminal with the big C, not out of medical requirement, just to visit.

That's the way it should, and used to be Barbie.

Successive Tory governments (C*NT Clarke started this in the early 90's and Bliar and Cyclops have kept it going) have created so much paperwork and red tape for General Practice that actual time spent with patients is far less than it ever was. Small and single handed practices have been forced to the wall because they can't compete in a cut throat market dominated by pieces of paper which 'PROVE' ph34r.gif you have an efficient practice. rolleyes.gif

HOW I DESPISE POLITICIANS. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-15 10:46:08
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Oct 15 2009, 10:40 AM) [snapback]658157[/snapback]
One time recently when I was commenting to my mom that it was considered "hot" at 75F there, she said that when she was growing up in the 40s and 50s that the summers would be beautiful and very hot (I asked her, What, 80F?" LOL!) She said that it was hotter than that, with days without rain. She also said that the Winters were much longer and brutal than now, with tons of snow and the like.

So, in a roundabout way, she has already validated what you said.

All my dad says about the summers when he was in the Holy Loch from 1963-1966, and then from 1968-1970 was, "I missed summer (insert year).....I had duty that weekend." LOL! laugh.gif

The weather was more predictable Trick. Sure - we had some complete bummer summers, but in those days the school holidays lasted for two months and you could guarantee at least a couple of weeks of brilliant weather - though I don't think it was as hot as your Mum recalls. Most winters there were a couple of spells of heavy snow, and the winters in general were MUCH colder.
mortonjag 2009-10-15 11:02:42
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Oct 15 2009, 11:00 AM) [snapback]658178[/snapback]
That's what she said, MJ...... She is 66, though..... wink.gif

FFS-she's ancient! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-15 11:10:00
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 15 2009, 11:06 AM) [snapback]658183[/snapback]
Totally agree with all of that although Grady backstabbing Irons has proved the existence of karma.

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You appear to suggest that Sheep Lips was correct in his allegation!
mortonjag 2009-10-15 11:11:19
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 15 2009, 11:06 AM) [snapback]658184[/snapback]
Thats not fair. Vikki is a giver not a taker.

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mortonjag 2009-10-15 12:27:13
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 15 2009, 12:16 PM) [snapback]658218[/snapback]
I think Irons is going to find himself very alienated in Scottish football. Who knows, maybe he will settle at the level he is now...as long as the players can stick him.

He might get a job as a gym teacher in Dotheboys Hall. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-15 12:32:44 Have you stopped beating the wife?


Yes?


No? blink.gif

I fail to see why money should be spent now if the current set up can guide us safely through the season. I DON'T honestly believe that even the best Manager can consistently get results from such an imbalanced squad, and there's no money going to be spent on players before May, I'd imagine, so Rae has it both ways - at least for the time being.

mortonjag 2009-10-16 05:45:47
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 15 2009, 05:25 PM) [snapback]658367[/snapback]
there'll never be a cross word between you and I as far as I'm concerned, virginton. wub.gif rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2009-10-16 05:59:49
Most people seemed quite happy with Sheep Lips two short months ago! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-16 06:09:22
QUOTE(big B @ Oct 16 2009, 05:52 AM) [snapback]658536[/snapback]
Correct but also Dougie also has to grow a set of balls and back his manager.

That suggests that he's intimidated by the players! blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-16 06:15:22 It's not that I'm planning an assassination - more that I'm testing the TRUE knowledge of those who seem to think they know everything - but it IS a serious question.

How easy is it to arrange to have somebody knocked off? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-16 06:33:15 Morton 1 Dundee 0
mortonjag 2009-10-16 07:40:24
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 16 2009, 07:00 AM) [snapback]658543[/snapback]
Nowhere did I mention what I heard McGuffie's on. I only disputed the £1200 p/w. You can stop being a pedantic wee fud now, you've got your bite. rolleyes.gif

Bitten by a fud? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-16 07:41:16
QUOTE(Mr.Kennedy @ Oct 16 2009, 07:34 AM) [snapback]658544[/snapback]
Depends how much you're willing to pay ph34r.gif

Can I have your scale of fees please?
mortonjag 2009-10-16 09:39:32
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 16 2009, 08:52 AM) [snapback]658564[/snapback]
Go along to the Brothers Bar in Saracen Street, Possilpark and make a discreet inquiry. Ask for Hatchet Harry or Mad Dog McGurn.

I'm talking about professionals Mr Edwards-Hatchet and Mad Dog are already in my cellar.

I guess I'm not going to get a serious answer to my question. sad.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-16 09:42:38
QUOTE(port-ton @ Oct 16 2009, 08:44 AM) [snapback]658560[/snapback]
We need a completely fresh start which means Grady not being manager and McManus being nowhere near the club come next summer. Although if he doesn't get the job with Grady then no doubt he'll down tools again anyway.

Impeccable logic darling-NOT!

If we need a completely fresh start, we need a new Board of Directors with lots of luvly munny! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-16 09:48:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Oct 16 2009, 08:45 AM) [snapback]658561[/snapback]
That was before he killed Brian Wake's puppy.

I hadn't heard about that.

Has he been in the papers yet claiming that the Yorkie savaged him viciously before he booted its c*nt in?


mortonjag 2009-10-16 10:18:02
QUOTE(port-ton @ Oct 16 2009, 10:00 AM) [snapback]658582[/snapback]
So you're saying that they didn't try to undermine Irons because they didn't like him? McManus completely downed tools for his own agenda, despite the fact it's Douglas Rae paying his wages and not Davie Irons, so i don't see why Dougie would be keen at all on giving him a management position.

whatever Irons was like is irrelevant, having people like that in charge of the club is just as big a mistake as hiring Irons ever was.

to think its completely black and white and that everything was Irons fault and nothing he says in that interview is true would be completely stupid. We're well rid of Irons and we should be well rid of those two chancers.

That statement deprives you of all credibility.
mortonjag 2009-10-16 10:21:46
QUOTE(port-ton @ Oct 16 2009, 10:09 AM) [snapback]658585[/snapback]
we can't have everything. tongue.gif

with so many players contracts out next summer we have a chance to get rid of all the deadwood and have a manager who isn't the players best friend or their worst enemy. If we get a permanent manager in now then he'll be able see what all the problems are and deal with them in the summer, rather than giving Bonnie and Clyde the job until the summer and our best players leaving, and the new manager having to assemble a brand new team in the space of a month.

we need to give someone time to assess the damage before major rebuilding starts. Im genuinely excited about next summer, i just hope we dont have 7 months of Grady and McManus putting themselves as first name on the teamsheet and offering themselves new playing contracts.

You don't have to like 'Bonnie and Clyde' darling. I assume that you'll still want rid of them even if Shoogly has to tell them to slow down in February because we don't want promotion this year! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-16 10:24:43
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Oct 16 2009, 10:13 AM) [snapback]658588[/snapback]
It would only cost you a few grand to get someone killed. However, to get someone killed and it not to be traced back to you it would cost a lot more. I'd guess about £50,000 if you want to avoid the jail.

That's the kind of answer I'm looking for.

Are you free on Sunday afternoon?
mortonjag 2009-10-16 10:26:17
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 16 2009, 10:09 AM) [snapback]658584[/snapback]
I can't make it down today....the time machine needs serviced. Actually it's a really nice day and I've got to paint windows before I go back to work on Monday.

Transparent paint I hope! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-16 10:31:11
QUOTE(port-ton @ Oct 16 2009, 10:23 AM) [snapback]658599[/snapback]
i meant it was irrelevant in this situation, not overall. Just because Irons was allegedly a wanker doesn't detract from the kind of people who could have managing our club. Just because one was bad for the club doesn't mean the other is right for it. They're all as bad as each other and should have been all shown the door together.

edit to add: at what point exactly does referring to someone as " sheeplips " gain credibility?

At the point when one carefully examines Sheep Lips' face.
mortonjag 2009-10-16 10:32:19
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 16 2009, 10:28 AM) [snapback]658609[/snapback]
He said I could have a free w**k in any one of his many houses. ph34r.gif

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mortonjag 2009-10-16 10:33:32
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 16 2009, 10:32 AM) [snapback]658611[/snapback]
2 tenner bags of smack, a bottle of Irn Bru and 3 yum-yums.

I was more thinking of guns, Barbie!
mortonjag 2009-10-16 10:35:34
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 16 2009, 10:34 AM) [snapback]658616[/snapback]
You have obviously never seen murder by yum-yum then. rolleyes.gif

I've witnessed slow and painful strangulation by Fudgy Wudgy! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-16 10:38:10
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 16 2009, 10:36 AM) [snapback]658618[/snapback]
Are you sure it wasn't a choking on someones fudgy wudgy

I see the pills are kicking in! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-16 10:38:54
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 16 2009, 10:33 AM) [snapback]658614[/snapback]
****, another trumpet. laugh.gif

French Horn?
mortonjag 2009-10-16 10:48:15
QUOTE(port-ton @ Oct 16 2009, 10:39 AM) [snapback]658623[/snapback]
I forgot what a beacon of positivity and gratitude you were towards Irons last season when he had us on an excellent run of form and we were the form team in the league. tongue.gif

That had nothing to do with Sheep Lips. The players knew they had to keep themselves out of the relegation zone. There were two prongs to their collective spear! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-16 11:02:03
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 16 2009, 11:00 AM) [snapback]658637[/snapback]
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ummm, is this ABOUT anything?? unsure.gif

6!
mortonjag 2009-10-16 11:11:12
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Oct 16 2009, 11:07 AM) [snapback]658643[/snapback]
Should Douglas be worried??

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mortonjag 2009-10-16 11:13:14
QUOTE(EBu @ Oct 16 2009, 11:09 AM) [snapback]658644[/snapback]
I don't think its about getting in someone who can kick players arses, its more about getting in someone who is a good man manager. We've had Irons who done nothing but kick arse and McInally who was their mate, neither of these approaches work.

We need someone who can deal with the players on a level basis, and be shrewd enough to purge any player/players that he deems to be a bad influence on the squad regardless of the ability or standing of the player.

Indeed.
mortonjag 2009-10-16 11:16:32
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 16 2009, 11:15 AM) [snapback]658652[/snapback]
hmm, says it all about this board really - a post implying "the love that dare not speak its name" and all it gets is a comment concerning the grammar!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2009-10-16 13:00:05
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 16 2009, 12:57 PM) [snapback]658701[/snapback]
I'd be appalled if we passed up experienced managers with a track record in order to take a punt on Grady and McManus. Absolutely apalled.

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mortonjag 2009-10-16 13:01:15
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 16 2009, 11:42 AM) [snapback]658670[/snapback]
Diversionary tactics once more, mj. I think you are well aware that port-ton was referring to you and your attitude towards the previous manager even while the team was on an extremely good run of results.......

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mortonjag 2009-10-16 13:01:59
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 16 2009, 11:34 AM) [snapback]658668[/snapback]
He's quite right, you know, port-ton, and you'd do well to listen to that voice of experience.
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For once you are correct.
mortonjag 2009-10-16 13:04:18
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 16 2009, 01:02 PM) [snapback]658707[/snapback]
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away and chase yourself.

Yes there are big problems in Inverclyde as far as drugs are concerned (AND alcohol, AND tobacco), but it's still only a low percentage of people who are addicted, even in the areas worst affected.

I don't have an ivory tower and I'm not blinkered about the problem - OR about the sufferers; I know 'em when I see 'em and I know where to find 'em easily enough (though god alone knows why I'd ever want to).

Your post doesn't shock me in the least - nor does it scare me, which appears to have been your aim.

"Worralorrabollocks" right enough.

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mortonjag 2009-10-16 13:05:40
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 16 2009, 01:04 PM) [snapback]658710[/snapback]
More than you appear to have appreciated. tongue.gif

Don't be ridiculous! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-17 06:40:40
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 16 2009, 06:30 PM) [snapback]658839[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-10-17 06:51:14
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 17 2009, 12:33 AM) [snapback]658917[/snapback]
Yes it probably is, but ambitions are shaped to a large extent, albeit not entirely, by environmental, family and peer group influences; influences which have everything to do with the town and the education system.
There are worlds of difference between dysfunctional and stable families; between chaotic and settled lifestyles; between sink estates and middle class suburbs. A child from the first is disadvantaged from the outset in comparison to the second, that should be obvious.
It doesn't really help to mention blame, or excuses for that matter. Social disadvantage exists in our education system for many reasons, but the NC methods seem to have had some success in overcoming it.

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Claims the architect - load of bollocks Mr E. Take any three siblings, anywhere, and compare their relative ambitiousness. Genetic factors feature large in this area of personality.
mortonjag 2009-10-17 07:01:52 [quote name='capitanus' date='Oct 16 2009, 04:42 PM' post='658794']


Davie Irons will learn from any mistakes he's made and will be back in the game at some point. I wish him well for the future.
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Sheep Lips is 48 years of age. If he's going to catch Fergie Spearmint, he'll have to get a crash course in psychotherapy and have those lips stitched together.[color="#808080"][/color]
mortonjag 2009-10-17 07:06:16
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 16 2009, 08:32 PM) [snapback]658875[/snapback]
I think we'll lose 1-0. Griffiths regularly scores against us and we don't seem to have the firepower.

I know SPARROT - we were dreadful in that department at Palmerston. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-17 07:12:59 The fickleness of Ton fans will probably be seen again tonight.

A good victory and everybody will have wanted Grady and McManus to stay from the minute Sheep Lips was booted out.

A defeat, and the board will be plagued by 'I told you so's from among the aforesaid everybody! ph34r.gif

What do I think - well for once I'll leave the decision to Mr Rae! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-17 08:43:46
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 17 2009, 08:17 AM) [snapback]658934[/snapback]
That's very gracious of you. biggrin.gif

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mortonjag 2009-10-17 08:46:17
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 17 2009, 08:10 AM) [snapback]658932[/snapback]
laugh.gif Bollocks claims the Doctor, eh? Assuming that the child is not adopted, family influence can be construed as a genetic factor, can it not? Whatever, I think that nurture has a bigger role to play than nature in this regard.

You cannot 'nurture' the trait of ambitiousness Mr E! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-17 08:47:55
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 17 2009, 08:23 AM) [snapback]658935[/snapback]
Yup and history will judge him as the greatest reader of an autocue ever.
I did have one giggle this 'conference season' and that was when 'Dave' Cameron told The Today Programme that he'd 'NEVER once used a focus group'. I mean how stupid do they think we are?

Stupid enough to 'paint windows' Peter - now off you pop with your wee brush before the wife catches you! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-17 09:56:59
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 17 2009, 09:22 AM) [snapback]658944[/snapback]
You ought to have woken up properly before you started posting this drivel.

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mortonjag 2009-10-17 09:59:46
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 17 2009, 08:48 AM) [snapback]658941[/snapback]
It seems that North Carolina can, Dr M!

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QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 17 2009, 09:39 AM) [snapback]658946[/snapback]
What an utterly stupid point of view.

One cannot nurture a trait, child.

Have you stopped sucking your thumb? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-17 18:59:25
QUOTE(Sleepless @ Oct 17 2009, 05:41 PM) [snapback]659090[/snapback]
...It's not that I doubt you... but where at they "well documented" ?

In the countless p.m.'s I've received from over 2367.9 utterly reliable sources - oh and a wee bird told me it laid a big egg. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-17 19:02:25

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 17 2009, 06:38 PM) [snapback]659111[/snapback]
McFarlane isn't a creative player, it's not his job to be that. Hopefully Jenkisn isn't out injured for too long, as we had an okay balance to the side before we had to put Paartalu on.

You should be so lucky ya wee pouffe! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-17 19:17:55 WE DON'T NEED A NEW STRIKER - WE NEED TO SUPPLY OUR BLOODY STRIKERS! ph34r.gif

By all means get a new striker - if that wee rat who can't tie his laces yet had swapped with any of our forwards today we'd probably have won by three goals - aye sign him now - BUT it's the dreadful imbalance in the squad which must be addressed first. Grady and McManus have IMHO done very well so far, but there's a long way to go.

We were extremely unlucky today, but I don't blame the woodwork, and although I feel sorry for the guys who saw shots on target fail to find the net, we were dire in our delivery both from the wide areas and through the middle-we expect that of Superkev and to a lesser degree Jimbo, but even wee Casino blew two great chances to get killer crosses over at a critical point in the game.

There's a lot to be worked on. We were in free fall and that's been reversed. Ross County and Dundee are good sides, and I reckon our defence has done well - in fact you could argue that on today's performance the Dee will need new strikers after we sign that wee rat! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-17 19:24:59
QUOTE(capitanus @ Oct 17 2009, 03:32 PM) [snapback]659043[/snapback]
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Mortonjag, do you have too much time on your hands just now?

What a strange and stupid question to post on a public messageboard.

Strange - perhaps.

Stupid -no.

If I had too much time on my hands I'd be at target practice instead of asking! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-17 19:32:13
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Oct 17 2009, 10:31 AM) [snapback]658968[/snapback]
There has been a whole argument over the nature/nurture approach.

If you take the term ‘trait’ to indicate an innate psychological preference and you are from the nature school of thought, then you are fecked and there is little or nothing that can be done to change your basic psychological preferences or your behaivoural tendencies. Once a ned then always a ned...

If you are from the nurture school, then you accept that personality is shaped by environment, cultural and social factors and LEARNING experiences. Feelings and patterns of behaviour are learned and evolved as you observe and imitate others and conform to the norms of the groups to which they belong. This appears to be the approach adopted in the school districts in question.

Whilst there is now a general acceptance that both genetic and environmental factors infuence pesonality, the debate has moved on to which has the biggest influence.

Of course, perhaps the question now is whether ambition is an innate psychological preference or a ‘learned’ experience…

Tail bearer, I have to say I'm impressed. I believe that truly ambitious people gain at least 75% of their drive on conception.

The carrots and sticks of life (you know of those things ass) may motivate. They do not generate true ambition.
mortonjag 2009-10-17 19:33:47
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 17 2009, 05:49 PM) [snapback]659093[/snapback]
Must have missed that frost then.

Is that you in the picture SPARROT - you look quite shaggable.
mortonjag 2009-10-17 19:38:14
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 17 2009, 07:27 PM) [snapback]659159[/snapback]
I don't disagree with what you say MJ. But we cannot rely on a young striker in Graham.
Young players burn out easily and you have to be careful with them.
We DO need another striker - and a wide man !

Time will tell Spurtle-Griffiths is only 19 and I don't see any sign of him 'burning out'. Graham's started the season well -I believe there's more to that lad than we've seen yet - and while I'm on - I think that releasing LEAFY on loan was daft!
mortonjag 2009-10-17 19:39:39
QUOTE(Harelaw @ Oct 17 2009, 07:38 PM) [snapback]659167[/snapback]
Sell the bloody floodlights

Will the crosses get better?
mortonjag 2009-10-18 08:04:05
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 17 2009, 09:52 PM) [snapback]659236[/snapback]
Mind and scoop up their s***e after them. Filthy animals. tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2009-10-18 08:08:13
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Oct 17 2009, 10:28 PM) [snapback]659250[/snapback]
One of the big ambitions for politicos in the good ol US of A is to become President. Are you suggesting that John F Kennedy might not have attained that great office if he was born into a different family and therefore genetically different, or are you advocating that Presidents like Clinton get 75% of their drive from conception (the other 25% was accidentally spilt on a dress!)? rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

Of course, perhaps the question now is whether being a patronising old fart is an innate psychological preference or a ‘learned’ experience…

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You appear to suggest that had John F Kennedy been genetically different he'd still be the same.

That, Ass, deserves to be patronised. wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-18 08:13:52
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Oct 17 2009, 10:45 PM) [snapback]659257[/snapback]
it is actually very difficult.. and anyone who tries to tell you otherwise or give you 'pointers' will no doubt impress the girls with his tales of adventure when 'he was in the special forces'..... gie it up doc, you couldnt handle the pressure. wink.gif

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I thrive on pressure -my cellar is witness to that.

I really DID ask a serious question - you hear about professional hits, and 'guys being taken out' every other day, and I'm curious to know how much it costs to have it done efficiently. biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-18 08:17:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 18 2009, 08:07 AM) [snapback]659340[/snapback]
Who ?

Their owners ?

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Dogs have self cleaning bums, whereas many of their owners get sh*t under their fingernails when they attempt to wipe arse, and don't bother to wash their hands.

Dogs are good for the human race. The opposite may not apply.
mortonjag 2009-10-18 08:19:23
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 17 2009, 07:40 PM) [snapback]659170[/snapback]
So it's not well documented then... rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2009-10-18 08:24:22
QUOTE(jimbobton @ Oct 18 2009, 12:50 AM) [snapback]659288[/snapback]
Who's decision was it to put Russell out on loan? Management or Chairman? A mistake IMO as he is one of the few skillful players we have/had!!



QUOTE(manchesterton @ Oct 18 2009, 01:17 AM) [snapback]659302[/snapback]
Hi Ernie, good to meet you today pal. Hope you and your family enjoyed hospitality???

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We really did, and the weather made the day complete-well almost complete. If only we'd got the three points!

BTW I never thought you were nearly so handsome! wink.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-18 08:30:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 18 2009, 01:42 AM) [snapback]659318[/snapback]
MORTON caretaker management duo James Grady and Allan McManus will be given another game after today to persuade club chairman Douglas Rae that they deserve to get the job permanently.

Asked if an appointment would be made after today's match, Ton owner Rae said: "No, I will be giving them this week's game [against Dundee this afternoon] and next week as well."

http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/sport/m...etakers-bosses/

It seems to me that as we are stuck with the current squad (with its pluses and minuses) and that DDFR knows that until we can improve the squad, a new manager is no guarantee of additional points.

[b]Is there any downside to sticking with Grady and McManus until Xmas ?[/b]

As long as we pick up enough points to avoid the playoffs, does DDFR want anything moore ?

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Aye - McManus will be wanting Bassets Jelly Babies in his stocking and Fudgy Wudgy just won't do instead! blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-18 08:48:19 It looked to me like a twisting injury to his right knee. I reckon he's disrupted a ligament and will possibly be out till the New Year. Jenks needs a wee break anyway after the fiasco with Sheep Lips. He's been off form for ages.

Hopefully on his comeback he'll show the kind of drive that made him a standout with Stranraer.
mortonjag 2009-10-18 08:49:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 18 2009, 08:30 AM) [snapback]659349[/snapback]
Get a room.

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mortonjag 2009-10-18 08:55:56
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 17 2009, 07:55 PM) [snapback]659183[/snapback]
Really? Grady's tactics were spot on today? To me that was almost identical to a standard Irons formation and tactics this season.

Grady's most effective tactic is maintaining mutual respect with his players SPARROT.

When you grow up, you may come to understand such matters.

You dodged my earlier question, so I repeat :

Do you still suck your thumb? unsure.gif

mortonjag 2009-10-18 12:47:02
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Oct 18 2009, 11:24 AM) [snapback]659386[/snapback]
MacGregor put in a couple of very good tackles in the second half. However, his distribution was diabolical, as usual. Couldn't believe it when I saw him lining up to take a free-kick into the Dundee box... said to my bro, 'this will be floated into the keepers arms', which is exactly what happened.

We have several guys that need replaced if we're to have a decent team. From the starting 11 yesterday, Graham and MacGregor are the first two that would go if it was my choice.

I suspect you were not at the recent victory in Dumfries.
mortonjag 2009-10-18 12:57:42
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Oct 18 2009, 12:09 PM) [snapback]659398[/snapback]
I think the chairman made the point clear yesterday when he came in to the room. Russel hasnt been scoring the goals he was brought in for, a fact that whilst at Brechin he scored 34-35 goals for them, then we sign him and he scores a tenth of that. The belief is that when he comes back he will be ready to do the business for us.

I don't disagree with that at all. What folk seem to forget though, is that he links very well, can drift to either wing, and IS capable of putting over crosses. He may or may not be first division striker material, but I'd rather see him waiting for a pass down either wing than - well to be honest - just about the whole bloody squad! sad.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-18 13:02:29
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Oct 18 2009, 11:12 AM) [snapback]659381[/snapback]
i'm quite sure that you could , if your still practising, do it more efficiantly yourself, and the cost would be covered by the tax payer, aka Dr Shipman.. which leads me to a wee question... Dr Shipman was being paid by the tax payer when he was killing old people.. now in the eyes of the law, does that make us accesories to murder ?

Only those of us who pay taxes.
mortonjag 2009-10-18 13:23:44
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 18 2009, 01:07 PM) [snapback]659416[/snapback]
Injuries look as though they have took their toll , should he have been re-signed ?? Finlayson covered for his lack of pace defensively and I think its MacGregor's lack of movement thats forcing him to lump aimless balls up.

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Sack the dietician?
mortonjag 2009-10-18 13:26:16
QUOTE(Sleepless @ Oct 18 2009, 01:12 PM) [snapback]659417[/snapback]
I can recall a bugler at the games abuit 40 years ago. When ever he bugled (?) the crowd would cheer. He was considered a lucky omen in those far off times.

Anybody else recall this... or have I taken too much medication?

I seem to recall the Reveilles of yesteryear but I'm perpetually high on pills! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-18 13:30:00
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 18 2009, 01:28 PM) [snapback]659423[/snapback]
The organisers of the Gathering made a loss. The local economy gained by about £10m.

Source? biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-18 13:34:38
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 18 2009, 01:00 PM) [snapback]659412[/snapback]
Neither is his boabie (allegedly) ph34r.gif

'Cos it's always stained with joabie? rip.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-18 13:36:21
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 18 2009, 01:34 PM) [snapback]659429[/snapback]
http://www.scotsman.com/scotland/Clan-gath...loss.5737891.jp

THE centrepiece of this year's Homecoming celebrations - the clan gathering - has made a £600,000 loss
The event, held in Holyrood Park in September, attracted 47,000 visitors from 40 countries and is reported to have generated over £10 million for the Scottish economy

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mortonjag 2009-10-18 13:38:08
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Oct 18 2009, 01:36 PM) [snapback]659431[/snapback]
The man in front of him (yesterday it was McAlister and latterly Monti) should carry the responsibility of collecting the ball from McGregor and putting the cross in. Neither did so successfully, half the time they didn't get themselves into space to receive a pass so McGregor's only option was to put the ball into the box to the best of his abilities which as a right-footed, converted centre back, he did not bad. It is not his fault that season after season we have failed to sign a natural left back.

You seem fond of Mr McGregor! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-18 13:43:35
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 15 2009, 09:42 AM) [snapback]636332[/snapback]
They are horrible, can spot a false set a mile off. I'm quite happy with my natural DD's. wink.gif ph34r.gif

Your absence from this forum has been noted. I suspect you may soon return with unnatural GG's! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-18 16:46:32
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 18 2009, 04:22 PM) [snapback]659495[/snapback]
And spare another thought: their Union Boss is on £97k per annum. Will he donate some of that to the strike fund I wonder.

Aspirant Tories don't offload cash! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-18 16:49:01
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 18 2009, 03:56 PM) [snapback]659480[/snapback]
Aye very good. You're sounding more and more like Peter Hitchens every day.
Only the deluded. Socialism, at least the democratic variety, is about building a fair and just society. You can't build that on piles of dead bodies.

Or dead bodies with piles? wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-18 16:50:59
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Oct 18 2009, 03:11 PM) [snapback]659461[/snapback]
Wrong, we had at least 5 clear cut chances today. a natural goalscorer i.e. Griffiths would have had a hat trick today if he played for us.

We were dire in our delivery yesterday.
mortonjag 2009-10-18 16:54:11
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 18 2009, 04:11 PM) [snapback]659488[/snapback]
Now that was quality and sounded more than a little intimidating especially when you addedd the noise of the back of the shed getting battered.

...and the back of the stand if I remember correctly.
mortonjag 2009-10-18 16:57:52
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 18 2009, 04:20 PM) [snapback]659494[/snapback]
One game out of 10, fantastic.

What the f*ck are you squeaking about SPARROT?

Graham is already looking better than Joe Jordan did before he left the sacred turf - not that I'm suggesting he's a future international, but he's certainly got more chance of that than you have of getting your hole from a human! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-18 16:59:19
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 18 2009, 04:56 PM) [snapback]659507[/snapback]
ask any questions of the chairman then...

Nope-had to catch an early plane to London. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-18 17:04:15
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 18 2009, 01:54 PM) [snapback]659442[/snapback]
Honestly, cyber-bullying a 19 year-old isn't big or clever.

It's not paedophilia Peter! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 18 2009, 02:14 PM) [snapback]659450[/snapback]
Vikington remains undaunted I hope. He talks sense most of the time, unlike many of his detractors.

Mr Edwards, you have today sunk deeply in my estimation.

What you really mean in that he's a jumped up pseudo socialist brat who needs a good leathering! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-18 17:06:02
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Oct 18 2009, 05:02 PM) [snapback]659515[/snapback]
Joe Jordan must have been quite awful for Morton then.

He wasn't that great EENY - that is exactly my point - give the lad a break!
mortonjag 2009-10-18 17:10:36
QUOTE(Rampage Nu Sport @ Oct 18 2009, 05:07 PM) [snapback]659519[/snapback]
Jenkins blows too hot and cold for me - and seems to milk injuries a wee bit (not saying he is this time, I wouldn't wish a bad one on anybody). But who would replace him - Paartalu doesn't really do the trick, and McGuffie is anonymous playing in the centre. About the only scenario I could see would be to play McGuffie at right back and Finlayson in the middle, where at least his energy might shake things up and cause difficulties for less well organised defences. And before I'm shot down in flames, I'm not suggesting that would be a better scenario than Jenkins on a good day.

Interesting that Jenkins' injury came after his exchange of words with Weatherson?

Spoonsy often puts a spell on folk! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-18 17:17:14
QUOTE(Rampage Nu Sport @ Oct 18 2009, 05:14 PM) [snapback]659524[/snapback]
Don't really disagree with that - only with people who say we should/can have a new management team AND new players.

As for folk saying Grady could be too close to the "dressing room" - I've worked in a number of places where someone gets promoted and adapts very well to the new situation - moving on from their former "friends" on the shop floor and becoming an excellent manager.

Let's keep an open mind an focus on what we need most.
I think its a striker, others think a different manager.

MUNNY
mortonjag 2009-10-18 17:38:44
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Oct 18 2009, 05:21 PM) [snapback]659529[/snapback]
Gotta go with VT here. Brian Graham isn't good enough, and is another one in the long list of strikers who have been with us recently who you can say it for.

We need someone better to play alongside Weatherson, who clearly DOES have ability. Even our worst strikers have managed to have good games and get goals, but that didn't mean that they should be with this club.

I was one of the ones going on about how he should be given his chance, and I'm glad that he has been given that chance, but I think it's only gone to show what some suspected already.

That Morton fans are famed for rubbishing players and never apologise when proved wrong. Wee Gardyne at Ross County is but one example!

Give the boy a decent chance and a break FFS.


Oh- and a regular supply instead of all this stuff about feeding off Spoonsy! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-20 07:34:29
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Oct 19 2009, 06:40 PM) [snapback]659906[/snapback]
I've been dipping in and out. ph34r.gif

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mortonjag 2009-10-20 07:53:10
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 19 2009, 04:25 PM) [snapback]659838[/snapback]
Dr Mentaljag's mutts have, although he's probably had them mutated that way. I believe they have sheep's lips as well.

Judge for yourself!
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mortonjag 2009-10-20 07:57:33
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Oct 19 2009, 04:02 AM) [snapback]659670[/snapback]
Aye right lets have good old fashioned racism. Maybe introduce a new character like Pakiwaki who works in a corner shop or Thick Mick the daft Irish labourer or Hugh The Jew who works in toy towns bank and steals all the customers money. It was wrong and offensive then and it is still wrong today.

Oh NO it wasn't. Sixty years ago golliwogs were simply black dolls with frizzy hair - much less offensive IMHO than their white (pink plastic) counterparts who could be undressed and have their parts examined by innocent children.
mortonjag 2009-10-20 08:00:24
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 18 2009, 06:33 PM) [snapback]659555[/snapback]
Oh, I wasn't referring to all that stuff - more the private messages that MJ has been receiving. I didn't know that private messages could be well documented.

Well you know now son! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-20 08:01:52
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 18 2009, 08:59 PM) [snapback]659596[/snapback]
I have and I will tongue.gif

MJ took my post as intended rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2009-10-20 08:05:05
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 19 2009, 10:13 AM) [snapback]659701[/snapback]
Fixed it for you. laugh.gif

Uncle Donald had a farm
eeIeeIo laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-20 08:08:22
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Oct 18 2009, 09:04 PM) [snapback]659600[/snapback]
And I thought you were a psychiatrist. rolleyes.gif

I have a psychiatrist! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-20 08:42:05
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 20 2009, 08:17 AM) [snapback]660040[/snapback]
OK Newt, don't listen to me, and ignore the overwhelming majority of scientific opinion that claims anthropogenic climate change is a reality. Their claims must be absurd, listen to the sensible, calm, considered and rational thoughts of people like Monckton instead. It's all part of a socialist conspiracy for world government. Here's some further reading for you:

http://www.greaterthings.com/Conspiracy/

wtf does that mean? blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-20 08:45:32 Highly recommended!
I've lost count
mortonjag 2009-10-20 09:17:46
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 20 2009, 09:11 AM) [snapback]660046[/snapback]
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Why are you laughing at the old man? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-20 09:20:59
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 19 2009, 06:03 PM) [snapback]659890[/snapback]
All that money wasted for a ****ing boat.

It's not a fishing boat, you ignorant little prat! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-20 09:23:21 GMFC.net

Credit where due.
mortonjag 2009-10-20 10:32:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 20 2009, 09:19 AM) [snapback]660049[/snapback]
And sixty years ago nobody thought much about the colour bar, minstrel shows, apartheid or signs that read: no dogs, no irish and no blacks. I'll concede however, that golliwogs are relatively innocuous compared to the horrors previously listed, and that many black people today don't find them offensive. Such imagery is openly on display in the West Indies with no problem, imagery that 'white boy liberals' would find grotesquely racist. I suppose it's a bit like the N word, i.e. only OK for black people to use.

Indeed, and the Robertson's Jam Golly was loved by all and sundry.
mortonjag 2009-10-20 10:33:56
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 20 2009, 10:21 AM) [snapback]660055[/snapback]
A bunch of scheming looney communists hell bent on world domination. Folk like these:
http://www.eoearth.org/eoe/scholars

I notice they are all PH*d's! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-20 12:36:14
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Oct 20 2009, 11:22 AM) [snapback]660070[/snapback]
you're kidding right? huh.gif

I reckon your real hoop is a dog collar you self satisfied brick. I thought you understood entertainment.

I had a wee quiet clap too! smartass.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-20 12:39:21 I went to Saturday's game with a friend who supports Rangers. At half time she spotted a wee guy outside the stand toilets clad in a Cellic top. She wasn't very happy! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-20 12:44:10
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 20 2009, 11:18 AM) [snapback]660068[/snapback]
Another one of the great journalists and broadcasters is gone. A grand liberal progressive who campaigned against many injustices, he'll be missed. He was of course too liberal for some, I for one can't be in favour of voluntary euthanasia, but I have always admired his stance on humanism. His last book, ' All In The Mind: Farewell To God' is an excellent, thought provoking read, much superior to Dawkins' turgid tomes (Ok, to be fair to Dawkins, he's a scientist, not a writer).
Farewell to God and Farewell to Ludo.

I much prefer the enforced type too Mr E! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-20 12:46:09
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Oct 20 2009, 12:35 PM) [snapback]660093[/snapback]
I take it this is in reply to my post? Where did I mention sweat shops, kicking the arse out of the natives, etc? Of course an element of globalisation is concerned with producing goods for as low a cost as possible in countries far away from where the goods will be sold. The very fact that the world's merchant shipping fleet has been almost completely mothballed for the last year is testament to that. The free market allows companies to move their manufacturing base pretty much anywhere they want. Dyson are a good example of this.

Always cleaning up on the suckers?
mortonjag 2009-10-20 12:48:11
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 20 2009, 12:45 PM) [snapback]660101[/snapback]
laugh.gif I thought you might Harold, sorry, Ernie.

May I refer you to my DIY thread? The book may become a best cellar.
mortonjag 2009-10-20 12:51:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 20 2009, 12:44 PM) [snapback]660099[/snapback]
How long have you tried to convert her ??

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Five years, four months and seventeen days! crying.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-20 12:53:15
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 20 2009, 12:50 PM) [snapback]660104[/snapback]
A dead cert for one.

Seriously, I think it must be an excellent read.
mortonjag 2009-10-20 13:04:16
QUOTE(Roger Mellie @ Oct 19 2009, 10:05 AM) [snapback]659699[/snapback]
Its got 127,000 on the clock Thornton, if anyone wants to buy that rather than pay another 2500 quid for a car with half the mileage then they can carry on!!

127k indeed.

Audis are great cars but I dont know how much further that motor ill be going before it costs you a fortune!

I was offered more than 4 and a half grand for a garage trade in never mind a private sale so I know the garage wouldnt be losing money on its resale if that's all I was offered that then i'm out mellow.gif

Your price seems reasonable to me.
private ads
mortonjag 2009-10-20 13:10:12
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 19 2009, 08:26 PM) [snapback]659943[/snapback]
Drunk Edelweiss, wasn't a fan at the time. Could try it again though.
Draught Tuborg and bottles of Boheme are nice.

Beers dear-not your favourite dildo! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-20 13:17:37
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Oct 20 2009, 01:12 PM) [snapback]660114[/snapback]
After every monster session I get the inevitable killer hangover but then almost without fail, I end up getting a dose of the lurgy later that week. Why does this happen (vitamin depletion is my guess?) and how do I prevent it in future?

Must be plenty of experienced bevvy merchants on here who've had this problem so get me adviced right oot ma nut.

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mortonjag 2009-10-20 13:20:20
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 19 2009, 06:01 PM) [snapback]659888[/snapback]
Pfft, lightweight.

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mortonjag 2009-10-20 13:21:44
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Oct 20 2009, 01:19 PM) [snapback]660119[/snapback]
It's like a cold - achy joints, blocked up, just generally feeling s***e basically.

Don't think that's anything to do with alcohol TBH!
mortonjag 2009-10-20 13:35:14
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 20 2009, 01:32 PM) [snapback]660124[/snapback]
It should make for essential viewing. I liked Douglas Murray's (Director Of The Centre for Social Cohesion) take on it:

" Nick Griffin represents a fascist party which can now claim to speak for almost a million voters. This shows, among other things, that the Unite Against Fascism style of left wing anti-BNP tactics has failed. On Thursday night UAF will hold a demo outside the BBC while the fascist Griffin sits inside on the panel.

We have to rethink the way in which we critique the BNP. Their ideas divide into the laughable and the racist. Thursday night should provide an opportunity to show this, but I suspect it won't.
Politicians on the panel will spend their time running to the opposite end of the see-saw to Griffin. The only way to take the BNP apart is to explain that there are legitimate reasons for people in the UK to be worried about immigration and the future of our country but that Griffin is a racist and exactly the wrong person to deal with that.

Our government and the opposition - epitomised by fellow panellists Jack Straw and Sayeeda Warsi - have spent years cosying up to Islamic fascists. Now they have the chance to meet the nativist variety this has given succour to. I only wish they knew how to destroy what they have helped create".

Short answer is I think we need better politicians, with better policies, to slay this monster.

Immigration? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-20 13:37:37
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Oct 20 2009, 01:33 PM) [snapback]660127[/snapback]
Seriously, every time I have a heavy session it happens without fail. I can get normal drunk and I have no problems though.

I guess those may be withdrawal symptoms in your case, but they're certainly uncommon.
mortonjag 2009-10-20 13:39:37
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 20 2009, 01:37 PM) [snapback]660130[/snapback]
Ernie and Nick. What a pair! biggrin.gif

I don't know much about Nick to be honest.

Is he a bad man?
mortonjag 2009-10-20 13:43:16
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Oct 20 2009, 01:41 PM) [snapback]660135[/snapback]
Dear Dr.
Why, after ingesting almost lethal amounts of poison, do I feel ill?

Because you're not SPARROT!
mortonjag 2009-10-20 13:44:36
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Oct 20 2009, 01:42 PM) [snapback]660136[/snapback]
He thinks Hitler made a fair point.

Don't you? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-20 13:47:48 I like ginger beer and am partial to Dandelion and Burdock, though it's very hard to source those days. Has the pee the bed had its day? blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-20 13:49:51
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Oct 20 2009, 01:44 PM) [snapback]660139[/snapback]
You're missing the point Cappie (I hate that fcking) Cat - the hangover goes away after a day (usually two these days) but then by midweek I get the cold. Every time. Perhaps it's more to do with wandering the streets in a stupor right enough.

Maybe one of the prodromal signs of viral infection is that you feel compelled to overindulge.
mortonjag 2009-10-20 13:53:09
QUOTE(EBu @ Oct 20 2009, 01:04 PM) [snapback]660111[/snapback]
If you still have a copy you should post it, would love to see some of the words Farry used in verse! smile.gif

Your application I must parry.

Your sincerely,

James (Jim) Farry.
mortonjag 2009-10-20 13:54:31
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 20 2009, 01:53 PM) [snapback]660146[/snapback]
Always been told it's called the splash due to the water splashing over it when the water is quite choppy.

You could have worked that out for yourself PD! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-20 13:55:39
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Oct 20 2009, 01:51 PM) [snapback]660143[/snapback]
I must have been suffering from it since I was 17 then...

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I meant OVER overindulge!
mortonjag 2009-10-20 13:58:25
QUOTE(centralTON @ Oct 20 2009, 01:52 PM) [snapback]660144[/snapback]
Had a pint of San Francisco Steam Beer in The Belle, Great Western Road last week, followed by a pint of Dark Krusovice. Both very tasty.

Undoubtedly the best place to put your beer, though SPARROT has his by enema. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-20 14:00:24
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 20 2009, 01:57 PM) [snapback]660153[/snapback]
I don't know, I've never met him. I hear that he's a mad racist and fascist that isn't overly fond of the idea of Jews, Muslims, black people being allowed to live in 'his' country. Also hear that he admires folk as diverse (or are they really) as Hitler, Louis Farakhan, Colonel Maddaffi and Ayatollah Khomeni.
I don't think we'd hit it off somehow.

I've been told he's very fond of a black German Shepherd.
mortonjag 2009-10-20 14:04:25 Not that I'm advocating non Christian principles, but perhaps the BNP is the most honest political party. Let's face it, if they went with the tide, they'd really be welcoming immigration behind everybody's back! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-20 14:06:51
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 20 2009, 02:02 PM) [snapback]660162[/snapback]
Oddly, my parents gave me answers for things when I asked as a child.

Yours clearly never, hence why you have that basement and no morals behind it smile.gif

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mortonjag 2009-10-20 14:07:51
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 20 2009, 02:01 PM) [snapback]660160[/snapback]
Tesco for both smile.gif

Thank you! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-20 14:09:25
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 20 2009, 02:05 PM) [snapback]660165[/snapback]
You heard it here first folks!

Correct young man, and what's wrong with honesty? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-20 14:11:11
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Oct 20 2009, 01:56 PM) [snapback]660151[/snapback]
I hate the cat too!

I think Cappie is quite POUFFE.
mortonjag 2009-10-20 15:11:25
QUOTE(cmdc @ Oct 20 2009, 02:33 PM) [snapback]660173[/snapback]
British immigration laws are some of the most prohibitive in the Western world. I've sat in on enough immigration appeals to know that we're certainly not that welcoming!

I live in an area which suggests QUITE the opposite! laugh.gif

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 20 2009, 02:46 PM) [snapback]660176[/snapback]
They deny the holocaust.

Do you? unsure.gif

I've never heard of it - do tell! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-20 15:16:31
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 20 2009, 02:54 PM) [snapback]660178[/snapback]
Aye. Some are trying to brush this under the carpet though.

Shag pile?
mortonjag 2009-10-20 15:19:11 Kelvin Bridge's a subway station. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-20 15:22:54
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 20 2009, 03:20 PM) [snapback]660189[/snapback]
" It's significant that there's never been a serial killer who has targeted Premier League footballers, heart surgeons, criminologists or journalists working for the Herald."

Watch yersel Ernie, he didn't exclude retired GPs. There's always a first.

Retired G.P.'s have a habit of killing themselves Mr Edwards! huh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-20 15:24:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 20 2009, 03:22 PM) [snapback]660190[/snapback]
Pile of s***e.

Dungheap?
mortonjag 2009-10-20 15:38:16
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 20 2009, 03:30 PM) [snapback]660197[/snapback]
Execrable.

Sexy Scrabble.
mortonjag 2009-10-20 15:39:08
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 20 2009, 03:34 PM) [snapback]660198[/snapback]
After 'assassinating' football managers?

Wood eye. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-20 15:52:10
QUOTE(Shed7 @ Oct 20 2009, 03:38 PM) [snapback]660200[/snapback]
I'll let Deego come and tell mine that! rolleyes.gif

Big dogs are best!
mortonjag 2009-10-20 15:57:04
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 20 2009, 03:47 PM) [snapback]660205[/snapback]
I know the first one, and I admire your frankness in admitting such a thing, but for what is "Dandelion and Burdock" rhyming slang? tongue.gif


Rupert Murdoch.

Dandelion makes you pee and.......burdock
mortonjag 2009-10-20 16:03:32
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Oct 20 2009, 04:02 PM) [snapback]660213[/snapback]
On here. rolleyes.gif I have been a bit busy recently, just started a new job. wink.gif

Pool attendant?
mortonjag 2009-10-20 16:12:46
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 20 2009, 04:09 PM) [snapback]660217[/snapback]
For sale (discount for owners of giant mutts)

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Only POUFFES pick up dogs' jobbies. They are supposed to be recycled! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-20 16:35:55
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Oct 20 2009, 04:25 PM) [snapback]660224[/snapback]
rolleyes.gif Not quite. smile.gif

Snooker referee?
mortonjag 2009-10-20 16:40:05
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Oct 20 2009, 04:32 PM) [snapback]660225[/snapback]
A lot of the people are scared of the rise of Fundamentalist Islam trying to incorporate sharia law and fatwas on people who they happen to disagree with their views. Whether you like it or not many are worried about the amount of illegal immigration happening and the islamification of areas of Britain as a whole. Whether the propaganda of the fear of a black nation(Iraq, Afghanistan,Iran) is the reason for this is debatable but during ressesion a blame culture is formed and someone has to be the brunt of it.
Didn't the tories under Howard make this one of the focal points of their last election campaign?
The BNP are just an extreme of a theme which is prevalent in many folk who are looking to see a fair and honest government being less tolerant to extremists and a bit more in support of the indigenous folk.

The BNP deserve to be on QT without hinderance and protest from the (Facist) Anti Nazi League who wont even give them enough rope to hang themselves.

Correct and the dual morality is always with us.
mortonjag 2009-10-20 16:43:23 EH? dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-20 16:45:13
QUOTE(capitanus @ Oct 20 2009, 04:38 PM) [snapback]660230[/snapback]
I'm sure Barr's make Dandelion & Burdock, but is mostly sold in Northern England. DongaTon may confirm. smile.gif

One soft drink that i like but hadn't had in ages until yesterday was A&W Vanilla Soda, it is on sale at the sweet shop on the corner of Sauchiehall/Hope Street.

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mortonjag 2009-10-20 16:49:31
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 20 2009, 04:45 PM) [snapback]660237[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-10-20 16:54:22
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 20 2009, 04:50 PM) [snapback]660242[/snapback]
My reliable source, who I can't tell you is, but those in PM land will know, is going to be Joan Collins!

Two big tits even without an assistant! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-20 16:56:28
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 20 2009, 04:55 PM) [snapback]660246[/snapback]
What's Davie McArthur got to do with this?

Baggy troosers?
mortonjag 2009-10-20 17:04:11
QUOTE(capitanus @ Oct 20 2009, 05:01 PM) [snapback]660250[/snapback]
You'd be surprised. Govan has returned a Scottish Nationalist MP to the Westminster parliament twice in times when it wasn't considered the norm to vote for them, and when the rest of Scotland acted like drones who put an "X" next to the Labour candidate through force of habit.

Govan also returned the first ever Muslim MP to the Westminster Parliament, albeit aided by gerimandering of the Boundaries Commission who ensured that several districts which were traditionally Govan were given to neighbouring constituencies, thus splitting the SNP vote and destroying the thorn in the side for the Labour Party in Scotland.

Govan isn't full of racist neanderthals loyal to the crown as you'd like to portray, in fact i doubt if you've ever been there before yet you wish to make assumptions condemning the place.

Correct, and neither is Erdry!
mortonjag 2009-10-20 17:12:02 A cat may look at the Queen. There is probably nothing wrong with fantasy except when SPARROT'S involved, but I don't think it's fair or decent to cheat on a partner, no matter how great the temptation or opportunity.

Would you? Have you? blush.gif

mortonjag 2009-10-20 17:14:19
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Oct 20 2009, 05:13 PM) [snapback]660259[/snapback]
Maybe he thought that Griffiths was Griffin.http://www.google.co.uk/url?q=http://blogs...ePLXv-YqWXv527Q and that is why he had a pop at him.
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mortonjag 2009-10-20 17:21:58
QUOTE(cmdc @ Oct 20 2009, 05:19 PM) [snapback]660262[/snapback]
In italics - I completely agree. The BNP should be given every platform possible in my view, because their beliefs and values simply do not stand up to scrutiny.

In bold - there's alot here that isn't properly thought through (not necessarily by you, but by the people who hold these fears). For example, the fear of 'fatwa' in general is, more than anything, based on a misunderstanding of what a fatwa actually is. Also, Sharia Law already operates in much of the UK, and does so in a (fairly) unproblematic way - even being recognised as such by one of England's most senior judges. There is of course the issue of religious segregation, but this is as true of Jewish community courts and catholic schools as it is of arbitration based on Sharia Law.

Are you a Muslim?
mortonjag 2009-10-20 17:24:10
QUOTE(cmdc @ Oct 20 2009, 05:23 PM) [snapback]660266[/snapback]
Nope. Roman Catholic.

Nearly as bad! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-20 17:34:21
QUOTE(capitanus @ Oct 20 2009, 05:27 PM) [snapback]660269[/snapback]
explain.

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mortonjag 2009-10-20 17:38:36
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Oct 20 2009, 05:29 PM) [snapback]660270[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-10-20 17:41:28
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Oct 20 2009, 05:39 PM) [snapback]660273[/snapback]
and what need was there for that ? mellow.gif

Ipse dixit! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-20 17:51:35
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ Oct 20 2009, 05:48 PM) [snapback]660276[/snapback]
But at least they'd need plenty of support!

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mortonjag 2009-10-20 17:54:16
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Oct 20 2009, 05:51 PM) [snapback]660277[/snapback]
The BBC must be rubbing there hands with glee giving them maximum publicity and a viewer audience not seen for ages for QT.
When mosley took his blackshirts on to the streets in the 30s dont remember it was a political debate that defeated Mosley. Was it not the the public who opposed these views taking active resistance to these blackshirts. Do these guys(POLITICIANS) care about anyone elses point of view anyway. If the answer is No then perhaps the sooner they are defeated the better.
Unlike some people I can see clearly now.

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mortonjag 2009-10-20 17:56:25
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Oct 20 2009, 05:54 PM) [snapback]660281[/snapback]
CODE
You're right there really was no need for me to be so abusive. However I won't admit that, instead I'll just insert something that makes me look clever as a diversion


So you enjoyed his celebrations and clapped him as he waved his boot at the Morton fans did you ?

That's interesting as you never mentioned that on saturday in this post.

Have I upset you dearie? huh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-20 18:06:18
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Oct 20 2009, 06:04 PM) [snapback]660287[/snapback]
Just for once can you not avoid the question, please .

Which is he then?

On Saturday you called him " a wee rat" and today to suit your purpose you called him " Entertainer" and insult those who didn't clap with glee as he mocked fellow Morton fans.

Come on, which one is the lie ?

Roland rules! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-20 18:08:17
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Oct 20 2009, 06:04 PM) [snapback]660286[/snapback]
You may not agree with a lot of peoples politics MJ(Poll Tax,Cash for Questions,Mps expenses etc etc)however there are some extreme beliefs that can become very dangerous indeed.Should
we defeat these extreme views by all costs.(Nazi,Fascists,Muslim extremists, Catholic extremists,Black supremists,Hard Line communists, fundamentalists of all religions etc etc) or just sit back and do nothing much at all.

One man's meat is another's poisson! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-20 20:08:31
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Oct 20 2009, 07:54 PM) [snapback]660312[/snapback]
It's not rocket science- a)He is a wee annoying rat who plays for one of our division rivals

b)He is an entertaining, skillful and exciting player to watch.

That wasn't too difficult now, was it?

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mortonjag 2009-10-21 08:24:16
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 20 2009, 08:49 PM) [snapback]660320[/snapback]
Actually, Nick Griffin [b]is blind in one eye. Hmm, has anyone ever seen him and Gordon Brown in the same room?[/b] And do you not remember those photos of Gordon Brown with some swastikas behind him? Surely not....?

No - they don't see eye to eye.
mortonjag 2009-10-21 08:26:59
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Oct 21 2009, 12:36 AM) [snapback]660378[/snapback]
Oh well done on completely missing the point ! But hey, thanks for your input. mellow.gif
Chris, I too have applauded an opposition player for a piece of skill , goal or save and I've never said he wasn't a good player or even entertaining. My surprise came when you said that you clapped his celebration. To me his celebration was crass and went on right until he was booked.- Im sure if Mortonjag was an honest man he'd agree that he implied the very same in his saturday post and may even apologise to me for his verbal abuse.

So yes, he is a good, entertaining player and to me his celebrations make him a completely unlikable wee fud but at least the two of us can discuss this without reverting to name calling.
By the way Cappie,..that last bit was my point. rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2009-10-21 08:29:42
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 21 2009, 08:09 AM) [snapback]660399[/snapback]
I've cheated on previous girlfriends but most of them were rampant sluts and I'm sure they reciprocated. However, been married since May and together with my current partner for nearly a decade and never been unfaithful. Imo, if you want to play the field then fill yer boots but don't get married if that's your attitude. blush.gif

A partnership has to be based on mutual trust and respect.

Itchy Willie (or phanny) Syndrome has much to answer for.
mortonjag 2009-10-21 09:23:21
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 21 2009, 09:04 AM) [snapback]660410[/snapback]
The Polar Bears will be fine so long as you remember and turn your car engine off if stopped in traffic for more than a minute. tongue.gif

I worry more about Bi Polar bears.
mortonjag 2009-10-21 09:29:35 The sad fact is that this is just another example of lazy journalism. Jimbo wouldn't sniff a place even in the current Rangers team.

That, I'm afraid, is the size of it.
mortonjag 2009-10-21 09:32:51
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Oct 21 2009, 01:07 AM) [snapback]660383[/snapback]
I'd be more ashamed to be a Tory.

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mortonjag 2009-10-21 17:01:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 21 2009, 10:18 AM) [snapback]660432[/snapback]
... not that there's anything wrong with that.

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mortonjag 2009-10-21 17:10:03 [attachment=5889:ton.jpg]
mortonjag 2009-10-21 17:12:23
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Oct 21 2009, 03:09 PM) [snapback]660507[/snapback]
My current wallpaper:

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mortonjag 2009-10-21 17:19:33
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 21 2009, 03:56 PM) [snapback]660524[/snapback]
Raging about this!

Strip I have wanted to see Morton with for years! Wee brother pre-ordered it for me for my birthday and then this happens sad.gif

I don't blame the club, only Bukta!

The Ton in RED? dry.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-21 17:23:04 For a purported Morton supporter to find the term 'H U N' offensive when applied to the currant buns is frankly a wee bit queer!
mortonjag 2009-10-21 19:18:14
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Oct 21 2009, 07:13 PM) [snapback]660612[/snapback]
Grady said Rae is looking to name the new manager next week!

Which is obviously what he's been told, but doesn't necessarily mean much until the outcome of the Pars game is known.
mortonjag 2009-10-21 19:22:35
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Oct 21 2009, 07:16 PM) [snapback]660613[/snapback]
Oh yes, very witty and original Tom, must have taken you ages to think that one-liner up. happy.gif

You don't get it Tom, you're only funny when you're trying to be serious. rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2009-10-21 19:24:26
QUOTE(larmton @ Oct 21 2009, 06:49 PM) [snapback]660600[/snapback]
And the young Morton fans that don't own Morton tops?

Let them in naked the wee souls.
mortonjag 2009-10-21 19:27:09
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Oct 21 2009, 07:23 PM) [snapback]660618[/snapback]
You're funny all the time though Jaggy. wub.gif

That's correct many maisons, and don't you forget it.

Would you rent one of your up market hooses to an extended family of Albanian refugees?

A SERIOUS question BTW!
mortonjag 2009-10-21 19:37:09
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Oct 21 2009, 07:31 PM) [snapback]660622[/snapback]
Aye, if they were decent and law abiding people, of course I would, what a strange question. Why wouldn't I?

I rented my flat out to Greenockians who didn't pay any rent for 4 months and deliberately trashed the place before they finally left, so why on earth would I discriminate against decent law-abiding Albanians?

Excellent- I have passed on your details!

Mind you I can't vouch for their morality. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-21 19:41:35
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Oct 21 2009, 04:06 PM) [snapback]660529[/snapback]
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see, you're better than him and I bet your voice doesn't sound like Ann Widdecombe being shagged by a goat.

You may have strange tastes in women! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-21 19:43:42
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Oct 21 2009, 07:39 PM) [snapback]660624[/snapback]
I judge the person by their words and deeds Jaggy, not their place of birth.

I rented my flat out to Greenockians who didn't pay any rent for 4 months and deliberately trashed the place before they finally left.

HMM! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-21 19:49:28
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Oct 21 2009, 07:47 PM) [snapback]660628[/snapback]
Indeed, trashed by locals, therefore I found your question about Albanian refugees slightly strange.

Why do you think nationality should be a consideration when deciding if a tenant is suitable or not?

What makes you imagine that I think that, dear?
mortonjag 2009-10-21 20:20:46
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Oct 21 2009, 07:57 PM) [snapback]660631[/snapback]
Oh I dunno..... I just feel it in my watter. rolleyes.gif

Why did you ask the question then? It did seem a bit random and bizarre.

In the hope of an honest answer! smartass.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-21 20:24:20
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Oct 21 2009, 08:23 PM) [snapback]660638[/snapback]
lol, i don't know why, i wasnt being funny i was being serious, but if it made you laugh then great.

people paying to listen to me, i'm up for that, you get the gig and sell the tickets and i'll do a one hour stand-up/lecture thingey with audience participation; i'm free on friday night's. i deliver indians on saturday's though. seriously, get it on.

Madras midwife!
mortonjag 2009-10-21 20:34:52 Ric Bailey, the BBC’s chief political adviser, said the corporation would have been breaking its charter if it had not treated the BNP with impartiality.

The decision to have Mr Griffin on Question Time was based on the party’s success in June’s European elections, at which it won more than 940,000 votes and two seats, he said.

“We absolutely stand by that judgment, even though there’s obviously been a lot of controversy about it,†he added.


Good grief, and I thought it was just a wee voice crying in the wilderness - maybe all those people are trying to say something! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-21 20:38:27
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 21 2009, 08:33 PM) [snapback]660641[/snapback]
laugh.gif YOU'RE the one (probably the ONLY one) who gets the hots for Annabelle Goldie!! tongue.gif

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Annabel is a fine looking woman! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-21 20:41:44
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 21 2009, 08:40 PM) [snapback]660645[/snapback]
.......and you should've gone to SPECSAVERS!!! tongue.gif

Don't be fooled by the clothes.
mortonjag 2009-10-22 03:39:11
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 21 2009, 10:16 PM) [snapback]660691[/snapback]
Never have been cheating on as far as I'm aware (therefore most likely meaning I have)!.

Have been the one a couple of lassies have done the cheating on with!

...no seriously, someone chose me instead of someone else...at least twice, maybe thrice! I don't understand it either.

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mortonjag 2009-10-22 03:40:47
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 21 2009, 08:45 PM) [snapback]660647[/snapback]
ohmy.gif you've seen Annabelle Goldie NAKED??? blink.gif

I have seen literally thousands of naked women.
mortonjag 2009-10-22 03:45:54
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Oct 21 2009, 10:33 PM) [snapback]660701[/snapback]
I am sure that there are very much more than 1 million idiots with a vote... rolleyes.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 21 2009, 10:57 PM) [snapback]660708[/snapback]
It's fewer than the Greens managed, and only three times more votes and the same number of seats as than the SNP - which, given that they stood in ten of the eleven constituencies while the SNP stood in exactly one - isn't really that impressive.

I imagine what the BNP voters were trying to say equates to something like "we are historically illiterate bigots." No wonder you find them so worthy of your sympathy!

Don't Smeggy - try sticking to facts like the Jag! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 03:49:53
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 22 2009, 12:29 AM) [snapback]660730[/snapback]
In the Ludge? biggrin.gif
Another thing, a good while back I had an office in the Merchant City, and below me was a masonic lodge. One night when I was working late (I think I was the only one left in the building apart from the brethren), they had a meeting, or some kind of ceremony.The sound insulation wasn't that good and I could hear people talking in unison, accompanied from time to time with strange, discordant (probably taped) music, sounding a bit like a snake charmers flute.
Another night a man carrying a wee case appeared at my door. 'Is this where the meeting is' he asked. 'No' I replied, 'it'll be down the stair'.

Did you get an instant hard on Mr E?
mortonjag 2009-10-22 03:53:16 I love those proddy v calf lick freds! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 03:55:43
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Oct 21 2009, 08:47 PM) [snapback]660648[/snapback]
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skulls inside the buddhist stupa at Choeung Ek

either i'm quite a reflective character or a potential serial killer

Just like home! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 03:57:15
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Oct 21 2009, 11:00 AM) [snapback]660439[/snapback]
OF strips at Cappielow unless in the away end are unacceptable full stop.

Further to that, I believe that the new youth set up is coming along and from what I've heard will be much better than we have today.
Maybe its time for DDFR to think about having someone in charge of the community side of the club also and improving that aspect of the club.
Could that not be combined with the new youth academy and let Stuart look after both?

Ok Stuart! dry.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 04:00:31
QUOTE(capitanus @ Oct 21 2009, 11:51 PM) [snapback]660722[/snapback]
I have probably been one of the staunchest critics of Morton's inept commercial department for years now, but i have to say that this move has to be applauded as it saves the supporters getting their fingers burnt (again) by buying sub-standard quality merchandise.

...ordered by Santa Claus! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 04:07:23
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 21 2009, 09:04 PM) [snapback]660653[/snapback]
don't put him on the insurance then!!!

'Them' according to our youthful on board intelligentsia! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 04:14:30
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 22 2009, 04:07 AM) [snapback]660774[/snapback]
THREE days after their son was killed by a Taliban rocket attack in Afghanistan, the Sher family received a phone call.

The caller, a woman who identified herself as Sister Amirah, asked if she could send a letter offering condolences over the death of 30-year-old Private Greg Sher, who had served with the Sydney-based 1st Commando Regiment.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story...32-2702,00.html
http://au.messages.yahoo.com/news/top-stories/1507628/
If there was a god, then (s)he would ban all religions.

I'm not sure that religions need to be banned. There are good and evil people connected with all religions.

The Moo Slims seem to have more than their fair share of the latter.

That opinion is of course coloured by the Western Media.

Where did those offences take place Newt?
mortonjag 2009-10-22 04:46:55
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 22 2009, 04:22 AM) [snapback]660777[/snapback]
Sheikh Heron (Ayatollah Manteghi Boroujerdi) is an Iman at a mosque about 5 miles from us.

It is alleged by the Australian Federal Police that he wrote to, phoned or otherwise harassed up to seven grieving families.

In his most egregious intrusion, one of his supporters confronted Breanna Till, the partner of Sergeant Brett Till who was killed while defusing a bomb in March.

The incident took place at her husband's funeral, after the supporter presented Ms Till with one of the sheik's poisonous letters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJlXBxl-V10

Good God, Allah, gracious, those Moo Slims fairly get around!
mortonjag 2009-10-22 04:51:20
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Oct 22 2009, 04:30 AM) [snapback]660778[/snapback]

...or more accurately, Proddy Sheriff Peebles told the court his decision was based purely on law. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 05:39:12
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 22 2009, 05:04 AM) [snapback]660781[/snapback]
Sheikh Heron (Ayatollah Manteghi Boroujerdi) has had letters published in local papers that state that he is an Iman at the Lakemba mosque.

Perhaps he's not - perhaps just a nutter, who may shortly spend time as a guest of Her Majesty.

However, Lakemba mosque is nearly as popular as Ibrox and Parkhead, so it may have several/many imans ???

For example:

Tens of thousands of people have gathered at the Lakemba Mosque in Sydney this morning to celebrate the end of the holy month of Ramadan.

Police estimate 45,000 people gathered for prayers, which members of Sydney's Islamic community say is unprecedented.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/09/20/2691046.htm

What were they preying for?
mortonjag 2009-10-22 08:49:02
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 22 2009, 06:49 AM) [snapback]660784[/snapback]
It's ok..none were your good lady.
...or your dog!

Are you claiming to have been importuned more than once by the fair sex PD? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 09:31:30
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 22 2009, 09:08 AM) [snapback]660798[/snapback]
Aha, so the pish that Mortonjag posts is actually code for a secret branch of the board. It all makes sense now. rolleyes.gif

Fifty gallons arriving chez Peter as soon as the strike's over! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 09:36:14
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 22 2009, 09:20 AM) [snapback]660801[/snapback]
I have to keep correcting you McArthur. biggrin.gif

I don't fully understand the generic term 'fascist'.

It seems to be applied to anybody with whom one disagrees.

When one looks at our shining examples (Cyclops and Bawheid) of leadership, one cannot help thinking that there may be a better way! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 10:06:18
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 22 2009, 09:52 AM) [snapback]660806[/snapback]
What is a fascist? Disagree with one and you'll find out.

You appear to suggest that this forum is beleaguered by fascists, Mr E! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 10:49:38
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Oct 22 2009, 10:28 AM) [snapback]660815[/snapback]
Now, now Mr Jag! They say that there is someone in this world for everyone, you should know that. rolleyes.gif

They say many things Mrs T! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 10:51:03
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 22 2009, 10:16 AM) [snapback]660810[/snapback]
huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif

Thousands celebrate Ramadan at Lakemba Mosque.

Well, MJ, I am not an expert on things Muslim.

However, as they cannot eat nor drink in daylight hours during Ramadam, the end of Ramadam is probably a good reason to party.

And the party starts with prayers at the mosque.

Perhaps there is something in that for all of us.

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They just turn night into day! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 11:38:56
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Oct 22 2009, 11:00 AM) [snapback]660822[/snapback]
Ah so your back to Stuart again laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif As usual like most of your postings your guesswork and conjecture is way off the mark.

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mortonjag 2009-10-22 11:48:38 Pars 1 Ton 2
mortonjag 2009-10-22 13:57:23
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 22 2009, 01:08 PM) [snapback]660848[/snapback]
Dunfermline 1-2 Morton
Nice morale boosting victory ahead of Moore's appointment on Monday...

Illogical as always dear! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 13:59:25
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 22 2009, 01:34 PM) [snapback]660858[/snapback]
And they only came in complaining of sore fingers.

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If only one had had the time! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 14:03:17
QUOTE(Harelaw @ Oct 22 2009, 01:54 PM) [snapback]660864[/snapback]
More strike days coming soon
3 Day Strike

They may be right and they may be wrong in principle, but yet again Union leader c*nts on the make are leading 'the faithful' right up the garden path.

Royal Mail can't deliver -face facts! happy.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 14:09:29
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Oct 22 2009, 01:30 PM) [snapback]660855[/snapback]
I regularly go to the Lodge for a drink after work. blush.gif

http://www.lodge-hotels.be/lodge/brasheverlee.jsp

Je kan hier terecht voor zowel een snelle snack.

You can hear Terecht Voor's owl eating snails. nerd.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 14:11:37
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 22 2009, 02:06 PM) [snapback]660873[/snapback]
'The postie used tae bring me bills he used tae bring me
I think he did it all for jokes
But now he disnae bring me bills he disnae bring me
I hammered up ma letter boax.'

Matt McGinn.

Postie, postie blow a gasket
Rush this bomb to Golden Casket.
mortonjag 2009-10-22 14:18:55
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Oct 22 2009, 02:15 PM) [snapback]660876[/snapback]
It doesn't really make any sense without the end part of the sentance...

'Je kan hier terecht voor zowel een snelle snack als een uitgebreid diner' means 'Here you can enjoy a quick snack as well as a full dinner'.

Lesson 2 tomorrow. wink.gif

Wallooning in gluttonry!
mortonjag 2009-10-22 14:26:54
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Oct 22 2009, 02:24 PM) [snapback]660880[/snapback]
Isn't that what a union is about. That seems like tory talk to me. I am all right jack so feck u.
Too many workers are getting shafted. Mon e posties. couldn't care less if my bills are late. laugh.gif

...when they should be out delivering letters! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 14:41:57
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Oct 22 2009, 02:27 PM) [snapback]660883[/snapback]
Actually, the language is Dutch, often called (incorrectly) Flemish when referring to the Flanders region.

The Wallonia region is however French speaking so unfortunatly your pun, clever though it is, doesn't really work. wink.gif

Thats a grote spin! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 14:42:54
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 22 2009, 02:39 PM) [snapback]660892[/snapback]
Power to the Posties.

Vitamin pills aplenty Mr E! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 14:44:17
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 22 2009, 02:40 PM) [snapback]660893[/snapback]
I see they do actually have one sensible policy - having the Olympics in Greece permanently. Although I suspect that that is not their idea exclusively as I've heard it being suggested since the 1970s.

The BBC are very big on impartiality - I trust they will adopt the same attitude to the SNP when they broadcast live debates involving party leaders in the run up to next years' general election.

Will you never learn? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 14:46:42
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 22 2009, 02:44 PM) [snapback]660898[/snapback]
are you groote schuur?

Boering!
mortonjag 2009-10-22 14:47:44
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 22 2009, 02:46 PM) [snapback]660901[/snapback]
laugh.gif Sour grapes. You're just jealous cos you cannae go on strike. Here's what happens if you do:
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They shoot a nun? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 15:26:39
QUOTE(capitanus @ Oct 22 2009, 03:19 PM) [snapback]660911[/snapback]
Why? Because you dont agree with them?
I agree, there is a lot of folk who support Rangers who live ordinary everyday lives and aren't too bothered about things like the monarchy, religion etc. I have got a lot of mates like that too, but the insult that is used against them, most often by their Celtic counterparts or folk that generally dont like them (such as this thread's originator) is often to be called a "****", and where that derives from is the Her Majesty the Queen's German ancestry.
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You don't get out often, do you?
We've already established that you're on a different planet from everyone else anyway.

I've been told before, by a Celtic supporter who obviously by someone who doesn't know Morton too well, that Morton were a "****" team. Many of that persuasion use the word "****" as an adjective to describe someone white who isn't the of the same persuasion as them.

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I just call them Tims! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 15:29:03
QUOTE(cmdc @ Oct 22 2009, 03:25 PM) [snapback]660913[/snapback]
Couldn't agree more.

What I would add though, the BNP are able to peddle their lies (and, that is precisely what they are - spreading myths that asylum seekers are sleeping in school halls and the like) because the mainstream parties have completely mishandled the immigration debate - in part pandering to the media, and I suspect to the wider public.

Interestingly, Alex Salmond has spoken about establishing education rights for children of asylum seekers as the achievement of which he is most proud since the SNP took office. He went on, however, to discuss the lack of attention and even good will shown to the scheme by the media.

Immigration has a definite and important place, and they BNP promise to return to an "overwhelmingly whilte majority" should be exposed at every turn, regardless of 949,000 voters who may agree.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif Especially for those whose wages it pays! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 15:35:27 Aye right!
mortonjag 2009-10-22 15:36:58
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Oct 22 2009, 03:34 PM) [snapback]660919[/snapback]
I thought these **** were on strike ?....How come i got mail delivered today then ? unsure.gif

This is Thursday!
mortonjag 2009-10-22 15:42:36
QUOTE(cmdc @ Oct 22 2009, 03:40 PM) [snapback]660924[/snapback]
Yep, of course that includes the opportunity to make a living.

Nothing wrong with having a vested interest! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 15:43:59
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Oct 22 2009, 03:41 PM) [snapback]660925[/snapback]
Ooh, thanks for pointing that out. dry.gif

Saves you guessing! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 15:45:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Oct 22 2009, 03:42 PM) [snapback]660927[/snapback]
Im sure sometime before 1939 someone said Hitler was a nice person aswell.

Apparently he's on the telly tonight.
mortonjag 2009-10-22 16:50:51
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Oct 22 2009, 04:32 PM) [snapback]660937[/snapback]
C'mon TID ye cannae use these terms because it is offensive to some sensitive people
. Maybe not a hardy soul like yerself but remember us Morton men are a rare bunch tuff Men o the clyde. I mean u wouldnae like the N word banded about(I did not use the whole word here incase u think i did) as usage for a black person. I hope not. The point I think we should all have a look at perhaps is that we surely are big enough to police ourselves and u don't have to be clever to take on board how offensive some slang terms can be taken as read by other people.

That's very true Guv (I hope you don't object to the abbreviation BTW). I have often wept myself to sleep after folk have called me 'quack', 'mental', ''Mengele', 'Shipman' etc.

My old dear - oops - my wonderful Mother - used to say:

'Sticks and stones may break your bones, but names will never hurt you'.

H*ns and Tims with a sense of humour let it wash over the top. The others deserve to be called worse! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 16:58:05
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Oct 22 2009, 04:54 PM) [snapback]660941[/snapback]
For once i agree with shipman, no one ever died from being offended.

Very true Ape! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 17:13:22
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Oct 22 2009, 05:10 PM) [snapback]660944[/snapback]
WTF are you on about ?.....they're the best fans in the world not just scotland, didn't you know that ? unsure.gif

Sorry Douglas! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 17:16:15
QUOTE(forza ton @ Oct 22 2009, 05:13 PM) [snapback]660946[/snapback]
no because they think it right and proper to give money to someone they have never met to "rule" over them.
but aren't st mirren fans an ethnic group? we surely cant poke fun at their paisley heritage?

efnthick?
mortonjag 2009-10-22 17:55:11
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Oct 22 2009, 05:50 PM) [snapback]660957[/snapback]
No but they were hanged up their necks,shot,gassed by scumbags not long after it. I am not that offended i just think its boring patter. We should have far more wittier descriptions and most of the time we do this. Rise above the OF crap namecalling and to do this do not encourage it by using their unfunny(not offensive just bad patter in my opinion) derogatory terminology.

She ain't nuffin' but a H U N dog!
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mortonjag 2009-10-22 17:56:29
QUOTE(Sanny @ Oct 22 2009, 05:51 PM) [snapback]660958[/snapback]
The BNP have as much right to be heard as MJ both have lovely nuts but we still have to let them have their say.

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mortonjag 2009-10-22 17:57:58
QUOTE(leyTON @ Oct 22 2009, 05:53 PM) [snapback]660959[/snapback]
i got mail to
good job my mum wasnt about it, if it was a scab shed have told them to ram it

Plooky heid? huh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 18:00:14
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 22 2009, 05:59 PM) [snapback]660965[/snapback]
You're going to have to point out when I said or implied that, thanks.

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mortonjag 2009-10-22 18:01:50 Maybe they'll all get the SACK! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 18:03:22
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 22 2009, 06:02 PM) [snapback]660971[/snapback]
^ Mentalist.

What sort of list darling? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 18:06:02
QUOTE(port-ton @ Oct 22 2009, 06:03 PM) [snapback]660972[/snapback]
Its amazing what a throw away comment can do even years later. Every single Morton fan wishes Cappielow had the atmosphere Celtic park had on European nights a couple of seasons ago, or at least our equivalent to it, instead of the silence interrupted by cries of " you're s***e McGuffie/Wake/Masterton/McGregor " etc that is the atmosphere at cappielow just now.

I wish we had the atomsphere at cappielow there was when i started supporting Morton in '94, that doesnt mean i want the atmosphere we have now. Same team different atmosphere, so i wonder when the whole " dougie thinks celtic fans are amazing " thing will be dropped...if ever.

What's said in haste is often regretted at leisure! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 18:34:30
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Oct 22 2009, 06:32 PM) [snapback]660979[/snapback]
As long as there's an MJ or Chrissiboi, basically. rolleyes.gif It's the shagwansheep sketch and Dougy's still has the wool caught in his zipper as far as that pair are concerned.

Flies! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 18:36:54
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 22 2009, 06:23 PM) [snapback]660977[/snapback]
This is very true. The reactionary elements in the media need to take their share of the blame, just as they must when it comes to the awful state of our prisons.

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mortonjag 2009-10-22 21:09:53
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Oct 22 2009, 08:47 PM) [snapback]661011[/snapback]
first time i think i have ever commented on an mj thread. i think he states quite reasonable things rather often but think it is laughable how he has been turned into some sort of urban myth online were people scour most likely the web to contradict him, sing songs at games about him and disagree with him all the time. he is probably just a well educated fan ( pun intented ) who has a laugh at the amount of replies and interest generated by his posts.

What a lovely man! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 21:14:22
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Oct 21 2009, 04:20 PM) [snapback]660533[/snapback]
If you're interested in doing it yourself ( or as a group) or just finding out more about it then click --> MOVEMBER

or if you are interested in donating to a Mo Bro (me) My Page
I'm going to look like a complete t*** for a whole month but I'm sure there are plenty of us on here who know personally what a good cause this and why it's well worth it.

Cheers for your time!

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LOOK AT ME - I'M SUCH A GOOD PERSON!

'Fraid I'll be quietly making my charitable donations as before.

Mind you, if you promise to donate £100,000 to Cancer Research, I'll shave off my pubes and send them to you in an autographed ice cream tub. mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-22 22:30:40 Drifting away before full time when they still had a chance to draw-aye the salt of the earth! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-23 07:08:19
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Oct 23 2009, 02:55 AM) [snapback]661137[/snapback]
I think the term TIM is offensive as is **** if said to offend(its used more often than not its spat out with **** added). Judge that for yourselves folks we are all big boys. Currant bun isnae as offensive cos it is softened in its aggresion and usually used with humour. . What about F3nian well originally I think it was a political term but has evolved to mean much more in violent dangerous terms although like Yid it has been reversed by its targets and celebrated to lesten the power it has to hurt people. If its boring don't use it and don't be too malicious i don't think. It has caused alot of deaths and anybody who is daft enough to shout agressive hatefilled stuff like that in a glasgow pub full of one side or the other on an old firm match and not expect a reaction of hatred/violence is an eejit. Maybe that should be the bench mark on the offendometer scale. I don't think too many rangers fans or celtic fans would find it funny if u shouted and kept using any of these terms during the whole game in an mixed pub while watching the OF game. A bit of common sense should be the answer. I do agree that as a morton fan I was disgusted by Dougies daft remarks about the great Celtic myth. Daft cnut.

You're making a very good point Guv but it will sail over the top of many thick heads - it's not what you say/do it's the way that you say/ do it.

mortonjag 2009-10-23 07:39:58 I rarely watch TV and almost never political scum, but I enjoyed last night's freak show. I thought the devil incarnate was good pantomime material-something the weans needn't really be afraid of-especially the off - white ones!

What came across loud and clear was that our immigration policy HAS been shambolic. We've had over half a million dumped on us when 56.000 were predicted. Slimeball Straw tried to evade the issue but his Tory (Muslim) female opponent couldn't resist hitting him with it. How those mainline party politicians make me sick.rip.gif Griffin seemed quite benign in comparison! laugh.gif

That lady - I don't know her name - stated unequivocally that the pace of change has been far too rapid, and that British people of all ethnic origins have had enough of it. She correctly referred to the evidence from local communities rather than pieces of paper, and the Liberal wallah agreed. (Well let's face it he 's probably seeing a coalition already! dry.gif )

It's the groundswell of popular opinion which has kick started the BNP's ephemeral fling at our nation, and it's time folk (including many on this message board) accepted this fact instead of churning out the usual 'racist' abuse at those who see it for what it is.

Any success Griffin and his party appear to be having is down to Mr Straw, his predecessors, and the multiple blinkered fools who have happily opened the floodgates.
mortonjag 2009-10-23 08:04:10
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 23 2009, 07:17 AM) [snapback]661144[/snapback]
You could say though that it is the way someone else feels about what has been said?

Ie you could say p@ki in jest to someone from pakistan and mean no malice from it what so ever (something I don't believe you can actually do but some people seem to think it's ok). But if that really offends/hurts the individual you say it to surely you would take that on board and not say it to them anymore?

If I said something which I later realised had been hurtful to an individual, I'd reassess the situation PD.

If I deemed an explanation worthwhile, that would be offered along with an apology. There is, however, a limit beyond which reasonable people should not have to go to avoid treading on tender little tootsies! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-23 09:09:41
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Oct 23 2009, 08:56 AM) [snapback]661160[/snapback]
It would certainly have livened up this snooze fest. And the feckin farce when the Stephen Gately article was talked about was a waste of time. The article was castigated(surprise surprise everybody was mild mannered about that)but did we learn anything from that question of any life changing signifigance. No . Never really got going did it. I have seen better debates on here over the burning issues of the day discussed with passion and really strong articulate arguments about subjects for instance like Is Grady gonna be the new man at the helmet?.

Are you calling JG a POUFFE? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-23 09:12:54 muslim girls = the final taboo. when scotland's teenage perverts start to realise that muslim girls are the catholic girls of today, we will have achieved an egalitarian society. through the levelling power of pokes up a close.
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mortonjag 2009-10-23 09:16:38
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Oct 23 2009, 09:14 AM) [snapback]661166[/snapback]
My old man was a postie when they were called out on strike for 8 weeks in the late 60's. I don't know how my parents managed at that time, must have been hard but being weans we didn't understand what was happening. The posties lost that one and my dad left the Post Office after that. He went back there after a few years for two reasons. The pension and job security. I'd have to say I think the job security aspect has been lost and the pension is in danger. If the Royal Mail ends up in private hands you can guarantee that will be the scenario. It takes a lot to persuade your average working man to go on strike so I've no doubt they don't approach it lightly. Posties don't earn fortunes so any loss of wages has an impact.

It's a lovely drive back through Wooton Basset BTW!

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It's a shame really. The same old story of an industry which can no longer compete. Not nice to see.
mortonjag 2009-10-23 09:18:54
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 23 2009, 09:05 AM) [snapback]661162[/snapback]
McArthur's answer to the everything. laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2009-10-23 10:08:44
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Oct 23 2009, 10:06 AM) [snapback]661175[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif Not sure of your logic?

MJ is happy to be called a POUFFE! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-23 10:15:55
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Oct 23 2009, 09:23 AM) [snapback]661170[/snapback]
Posties dont earn a bad wage, i worked for RM for 2 years (sorting office not a postman) & the only reason i would work there again is for the money they get paid for doing an easy job.

the reason i left was because it's full of lazy arseholes who want to do very little,(they'd be sacked in any other company), but they're backed up by a union who do everything in their power to stop these lazy ****s from being sacked.

the whole company in my experience is a shambles, they dont deserve any more than they're getting now.

no sympathy from me i'm afraid.

I always listen to the voice of experience Ape. I've known a few (honest) posties in my time and they've confirmed what you've said.

Good and bad in every job though and a shame that the conscientious get hammered in the same way as the slackers.
mortonjag 2009-10-23 10:25:43 Just one of the multiple problems not being addressed
mortonjag 2009-10-23 10:57:09
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 23 2009, 10:49 AM) [snapback]661190[/snapback]
Ah so it is ok to say something offence...as long as you are ignorant too it! unsure.gif

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One is only responsible for the foreseeable results of ones actions PD! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-23 10:59:31
QUOTE(EBu @ Oct 23 2009, 10:48 AM) [snapback]661188[/snapback]
I don't think Asylum seekers are the problem TBH, in fact I'm proud that this country takes in people who have been persecuted in their home countries. However, I do think that we have an immigration problem, its the Eastern Europe immigrants that we need to address. The figures quoted last night IIRC were that the Government were expecting 50,000 and the latest estimates were 700,000+ which is shocking.

I don't agree with Griffin, however until this Government (or the next) allows this issue to continue whist the NHS and schooling go down the tubes, the BNP will continue to gain more supporters which can only lead to a very dark place.

Edit to add: Although I do believe that we also need to sort out our own house as well in regards to Junkies, benefit thieves etc which I would imagine are more of a drain on our resources than immigrants.

'Fraid I can't agree - it's the whole caboodle which needs sorted out.
mortonjag 2009-10-23 11:01:34
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Oct 23 2009, 10:55 AM) [snapback]661193[/snapback]
Mortonjag & virginton could write some stuff, between them they know everything. smile.gif

Correct Ape, and Virginton knows SFA! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-23 11:14:26
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 23 2009, 11:09 AM) [snapback]661202[/snapback]
You were "taught"? So you accept everything that someone tells you without questioning it and coming to your own conclusions based on evidence?

FWIW I consider paedophiles to be sick people (in more than one sense of the word) who have something wrong with them, presumably due to their development or possibly the way they have been brought up (I am told by someone who knows more about these things than I do that many paedophiles are themselves victims of abuse as children). I am not sure whether anyone actually chooses to be a paedophile (as opposed to acting on some sort of inbuilt or conditioned urge). Tyey are however a danger to society and for that reason society needs to be protected against them in an appropriate way.

As for homosexuality, I understand that current knowledge suggests that it is a result of a hormone deficiency or excess in the foetus, resulting in a foetus developing a female brain in a male body, or vice versa. Nobody chooses to be homosexual; it is the way they are formed. Clearly it is quite wrong to persecute someone just because they have not developed into a perfect specimen of humanity the way nature intended, if indeed such a perfect specimen even exists as we all have some sort of imperfection (apart from Andy Ritchie obviously). By the same token, the militant wing of homosexuality does their cause no favours as they want positive discrimination and are not at all happy if people just get along with them quietly and unobtrusively; they seem to have a need to be exhibitionist, and everything has to be viewed through a homosexual lens. All the homosexuals I know personally say they are rather embarrassed by that sort of approach. Actually I do know one bloke who is a bit "I'm gay and I want you all to know that" and it gets right up most people's noses.

I take Cowshed Warrior's point about positive discrimination. It is wrong. Why do we have an Association of black police officers? MOBA awards? These things just shouldn't exist. Or in a UK where about 8% of the population is Scottish, should we maybe have a lobby group for Scots? imagine the whingeing if that happened...


...and why are Glasgow polis allowed to wear turbans - I've never understood that - should gay Glasgow polis be allowed to carry handbags? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-23 11:39:24
QUOTE(cmdc @ Oct 23 2009, 11:28 AM) [snapback]661214[/snapback]
Given that the average asylum seeker receives around £35 a week, I don't think they'll be doing much living off benefits.

Actually succeeding in an asylum claim is very, very difficult. Anyone who thinks the system is a free for all, I would suggest, is someone who doesn't have any experience of the system at any level whatsoever. If the government had such an 'open door' policy they wouldn't bend over backwards to prevent the courts from reviewing failed asylum cases, for one thing. What is more, anyone who thinks we have a tippy-tappy, easy-oasy policy on asylum should look at cases when the home secretary has ignored court orders to the contrary and ordered dawn raids of individuals and their families and bundled them on a plane back home before they can do anything about it.

The asylum reguime is absolutely necessary. It was the rightlessness of Jewish immigrants in the 1940s (fleeing a regime with not disimilar views to that of Griffin), and the desire to dsport them as soon as they arrived in a new country, which made their extermination so amazingly easy. Current asylum and refugee protections stand as a response (a necessary, but inadequate one) to that problem - so to see asylum be twisted by fascists is more than a little worrying.

And Flight Ton - look closely at the list you've posted. It is mumbo-jumbo. They'll remove political correct indoctrination from schools? What does that mean? If it means that they'll teach more honestly the period of Empire then maybe it will be a good thing - people will realise that the British exploitation of third world countries was far more damaging than any asylum seeker and their £35 here.

HMM! huh.gif

Supply and demand? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-23 11:41:49
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 23 2009, 11:28 AM) [snapback]661215[/snapback]
Unless it is Dougie appointing a manager according to you unsure.gif

Mr Rae can not be blamed for his personality! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-23 11:44:22
QUOTE(cmdc @ Oct 23 2009, 11:42 AM) [snapback]661229[/snapback]
THe ones who make up persecution stories do not succeed. In fact, the system is so weighed against the applicant that even many of those with perfectly valid persecution stories are sent home.

For example, this week the AIT has ordered that Afghanistan is not a war zone (despite the fact that the US and UK are about to send even more troops there), and that Afghans can be safely returned to that country. This against independent and expert advice.

How many asylum seekers were absorbed into Scotland last year?
mortonjag 2009-10-23 11:56:57
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Oct 23 2009, 11:54 AM) [snapback]661232[/snapback]
I’m really sorry that you can, not only think that of myself, but could think it of anyone raising money for charity.

You know nothing about me and my reasons for raising money for this particular cause and if you really think that I posted this on here for any other reason than to raise awareness and hopefully some money to a cause close to me then that that says so much more about you and your mind-set than it does mine.

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I didn't mention you dear! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-23 12:00:17
QUOTE(cmdc @ Oct 23 2009, 11:56 AM) [snapback]661233[/snapback]
No idea - I'll speak to some people about it this afternoon though, so I'll try get a figure form them.

Thanks - I'm not disputing what you say about the difficulty - just curious to know how many got through the system.

It would also help to know how many applicants for asylum are physically in Scotland at the moment.
mortonjag 2009-10-23 12:05:28
QUOTE(Rampage Nu Sport @ Oct 23 2009, 12:00 PM) [snapback]661236[/snapback]
Genuine question - how much of a rebuild does the squad really need? Yes, there's a few under-performers to clear out. There's a few glaring positions to fill (strike partner for Weatherson being most obvious). And the squad simply isn't big enough (as we can see now the injuries are mounting up). But is this the same thing as needing a massive rebuild? And given that the budget will be limited, then some of the "mediocre" performers will probably need to stay on anyway.

I don't really see the squad being that much different next season - and with one or two judicious additions, I'm not sure it needs to be.

To achieve what?
mortonjag 2009-10-23 12:15:21
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 23 2009, 12:12 PM) [snapback]661244[/snapback]
If you want to be subtle, start a theological debate about the doctrinal differences between the Church of Scotland and the Church of Rome.

As many of them think that attending Greyskull or Prat-heid is sufficient to show support to "their" chosen church you'll be able to enjoy the blank looks or squirming that your questions provoke.
As for how THEY insult US, at a Christmas do last year one of their number came over to me when he was well-oiled and said "Davy I know you support Morton, but c'mon, ye kin tell me - whit team dae ye REALLY support??"

the arrogance of the barstewards is matched only by their paranoia. mad.gif

It IS annoying when folk can't even remember your name, Percy!
mortonjag 2009-10-23 12:19:18
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 23 2009, 12:15 PM) [snapback]661246[/snapback]
Don't Asylum seekers go through official channels and are therefore monitored , whether that system is good enough is up for debate . Although I think those requesting asylum are getting lumped together with those illegal migrant workers.

These migrants are victims themselves with tales of a better life . IMHO we have to target the people who use illegal migrants for profit who are the scurge .

Did anyone not ask Mr Griffin how he would pay to create this Utopia considering the national debt is at record levels . Anyone taking in by this fairy story ( in a non homosexual text of course) deserves to have their heads shaved and a Swastika tattooed on their forehead.

His pullover removed and the helmet replaced by a turban? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-23 12:22:12
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Oct 23 2009, 12:18 PM) [snapback]661250[/snapback]
Pathetic!

Look, you quoted my post then made your odious remarks in reply to it. So why not stand by what you say if you must, but making the revolting comment then pretending you didn’t direct at me is appalling.

I abhor showboating in the name of good deeds.

If the cap (or tache) fits, wear it dear.

If it doesn't, chill out! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-23 12:24:28
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 23 2009, 12:20 PM) [snapback]661253[/snapback]
my name is Rudolph Hucker, actually....... laugh.gif

Are you related to Phil McCracken?
mortonjag 2009-10-23 12:35:54
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 23 2009, 12:32 PM) [snapback]661261[/snapback]
Don't rise to it, Hoops - I'm more to be pitied than scolded.

Just remember that I'm only brave when hiding behind my keyboard.

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My identity is well known Percy.

Yours? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-23 12:37:16
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 23 2009, 12:34 PM) [snapback]661263[/snapback]
My cousin is Karen van Rentl.......

..and your Auntie..Belle E Button?
mortonjag 2009-10-23 15:11:52
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Oct 23 2009, 12:39 PM) [snapback]661266[/snapback]
By doing this I am raising awareness and collecting money for a cause very close to me and from people who might not otherwise have donated.
It's hardly showboating!

......and by adding a little spice to your thread darling I'm helping your good cause!

I take it you don't want an ice cream tub full of curly old pubes then! crying.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-23 15:18:30
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 23 2009, 03:10 PM) [snapback]661306[/snapback]
I must admit I feel a bit creepy and uncomfortable with folk that think homosexuality is some sort of abnormality, an imperfection resulting from a hormone deficiency, as if it's something they should be cured from. Female brains in male bodies indeed. Steve Martin was having a laugh Alibi, it wasn't meant to be taken seriously.

Edwards comes out at last


WHACKO! bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-23 15:21:56
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Oct 23 2009, 03:11 PM) [snapback]661308[/snapback]
read a wee article sayng that he will be playing for threave tomorrow in the scottish cup.
quotes Irons as saying 'it would be intersting if we beat whitehill and got morton in the next round'
wonder how many of the current squad (and fans) would be itching to give him a wee kick laugh.gif

I'm certain that 100% of our current squad would die for the opportunity to give Sheep Lips a thoroughly deserved beating. We could have Shoogly on as an 89th minute sub to administer the killer kick in the testimonials! bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-23 15:25:31
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 23 2009, 03:23 PM) [snapback]661317[/snapback]
laugh.gif Aye, very good Doctor. Away and whack some 'little pink botties'. tongue.gif

Enough of the racism Edwards! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-23 15:30:46
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Oct 23 2009, 03:28 PM) [snapback]661321[/snapback]
What ever floats yer boat pal.

Ship if you please! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-23 20:23:45
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 23 2009, 07:44 PM) [snapback]661372[/snapback]
I think you should change the subtitle to "why do they make me ill" as it seems to be only you....oh and those with vaginas!

vaginae! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-23 20:30:06
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Oct 23 2009, 03:51 PM) [snapback]661332[/snapback]
a cruise liner or an old battle ship?


Whichever floats your boat! laugh.gif



QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 23 2009, 08:09 PM) [snapback]661377[/snapback]
I'm sure the irony wasn't lost on him, seeing as he'd have them in a 're-education centre' within months of his fat cretinous face being anywhere near No. 10.
So I'd say that denying a fascist free speech is a more than morally justifiable act. You don't uphold our democracy in power, why should we uphold your rights when a insignificant fringe group?

Not according to Auntie, SPARROT.

It's not like you to miss the point completely! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-23 20:34:09
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Oct 23 2009, 08:17 PM) [snapback]661379[/snapback]
my knife has got a couple of dings on the blade and needs a bit of a sharpening as well. anybody know where i should go to get this done and how much it will set me back?

tried looking in the yellow pages, before mcarthur starts whining about lazy young whippersnappers with no initiative etc, but i couldn't find anything.

try this
mortonjag 2009-10-23 20:43:45
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 23 2009, 08:39 PM) [snapback]661383[/snapback]
I'm almost sure the irony isn't lost on you either. Thought to be fair, Nick's probably got more brain cells left than you.

My few remaining brain cells seem to recall that intellectual capacity is not a direct function of neuronal volume, SPARROT.

Are you still looking for your hole? smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-23 21:02:19
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 23 2009, 08:50 PM) [snapback]661385[/snapback]
Probably want to sweep up all that fail you've left all across your post.

I suspect you are incapable of reconstructing that piece of jargon in intelligible English, child.

I grew tired of immature 'undergraduate speak' over forty years ago.

Confusion of rectum with vagina is the cause of much teenage angst! thumbup2.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-23 21:05:50
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Oct 23 2009, 08:54 PM) [snapback]661387[/snapback]
I'm maried to an Asian but i quite like the BNP and their policies; too many foreigners here who shouldn't be here; and i don't accept homosexuality, infact i think it's disgusting.

Which specific homosexual function disgusts you?

I certainly have no problem with the concept of two men loving each other.
mortonjag 2009-10-23 21:09:08
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 23 2009, 09:05 PM) [snapback]661392[/snapback]
Engage brain before posting, old man. Your pish is wasted here when it could be running along the floor of your free bus.

I drive a BMW 330i M sport dear, and I won't specify the remap. Free buses are for impecunious and virginal wee students and the like!

Would you like a ride in my motor son? wub.gif wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-23 21:23:27
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Oct 23 2009, 09:15 PM) [snapback]661395[/snapback]
I just don't think that men kissing each other or putting their willie in each other's bums is normal; i don't understand it and think these people have some malfunction.

I suppose I kind of understand what you're saying. I remember the first time I saw a bull hump a cow - I must have been about eleven years of age, and I instinctively found that quite repulsive.
mortonjag 2009-10-23 21:26:39
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Oct 23 2009, 09:24 PM) [snapback]661403[/snapback]
Aye, old people. They're as bad as
pakis
darkies
poofters
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.... but the three latter categories may not necessarily feel guilty about their rejection of euthanasia.
mortonjag 2009-10-23 21:29:28
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 23 2009, 09:26 PM) [snapback]661405[/snapback]
Tsk tsk, students don't get free buses, you're not very good at this.

They most certainly DO dear when they fulfil additional criteria as evidenced by your goodself! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-23 21:31:28
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 23 2009, 09:28 PM) [snapback]661408[/snapback]
I should add - and this is not me as a I very much have yellow fever ya lucky bam! - that I know guys who are repulsed by the thought of having sex with an Asian girl and can't see that as normal.

Different strokes and all that!

More bloody laugh.gifPOUFFES !
mortonjag 2009-10-23 22:10:51
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 23 2009, 09:23 PM) [snapback]661400[/snapback]
Vagiaye? blink.gif

vag - ine - aye


or fuds.
mortonjag 2009-10-23 22:14:50
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 23 2009, 09:31 PM) [snapback]661412[/snapback]
No they don't. They can claim back expenses but it is not the full amount. 2/10 Jag.

What are you gibbering about now PD - I'm talking about free buses for students in certain circumstances and you're citing you little cooncil microcosm! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-23 22:16:15
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 23 2009, 10:12 PM) [snapback]661427[/snapback]
Who will that be then? Don't tell me it's a secret.

Tarzan Tim O'Toole.
mortonjag 2009-10-23 22:18:25
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 23 2009, 10:04 PM) [snapback]661425[/snapback]
Fixed happy.gif

I don't think the Nazis would have regarded you as experimental material dear.
mortonjag 2009-10-23 22:37:05
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 23 2009, 10:27 PM) [snapback]661436[/snapback]
Is this the man?

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That's his wee brother Tiny Tim O'Towel.
mortonjag 2009-10-23 22:38:44
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 23 2009, 10:22 PM) [snapback]661434[/snapback]
Ill-informed on so many levels that post smile.gif



QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 23 2009, 10:33 PM) [snapback]661437[/snapback]
Biological history? That would be the biological history that shows continual waves of migration since the very first settlers in the British Isles?

which dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-23 22:40:56
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 23 2009, 10:22 PM) [snapback]661434[/snapback]
Ill-informed on so many levels that post smile.gif

Nonsense PD - I assure you that I am aware of students who avail themselves of free bus travel. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-23 22:46:18
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 23 2009, 10:44 PM) [snapback]661446[/snapback]
No student bursary provides travel. Travel can only be claimed back from SAAS. You can claim for the whole academic year in the December. It is never the full amount.

You'll really have to broaden your mind sonny boy. Don't imagine that your definition of 'student' is accurate! smartass.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-23 22:47:06
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 23 2009, 10:44 PM) [snapback]661447[/snapback]
The Provost?

...and the chain gang!
mortonjag 2009-10-23 22:55:50
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 23 2009, 10:49 PM) [snapback]661450[/snapback]
CODE
I'm going to change the meaning of the word because I have been caught out


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I find those 'codes' irritating and puerile PD.

Why can't you just admit you're wrong. A student is somebody who studies. In Scotland 'studying' is done in schools. in colleges, in quasi Universities, and in proper centres of academic excellence. It may also be done 'on line' and through keyholes.

My studies have led me to conclude that graduates of improper Universities tend towards narrow mindedness and self satisfaction. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-23 23:00:04
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Oct 23 2009, 10:59 PM) [snapback]661454[/snapback]
cannon law was revised in the early 60s i think

Did they change to metric balls?
mortonjag 2009-10-23 23:21:52
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 23 2009, 11:06 PM) [snapback]661459[/snapback]
CODE
I definitely changed it because he was right

Invincible ignorance PD is the nemesis of the learned!
[codebox]Puggs is a thick wee c*nt![/codebox]
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mortonjag 2009-10-23 23:24:05
QUOTE(Bawhirley Road @ Oct 23 2009, 11:18 PM) [snapback]661462[/snapback]
http://www.pglrw.org/

From this site there is a link to the Grand Lodge of Scotland website.

It is stimulating to realize that new technology and the World Wide Web
are now giving us the opportunity to communicate with all mankind on a
global basis.


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mortonjag 2009-10-23 23:35:13
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Oct 23 2009, 10:52 PM) [snapback]661451[/snapback]
Mate, I would totally agree with you. I don't see the deal with couples of ANY persuasion who can't even walk up an aisle in Tesco without stopping to paw each other. My point was more that Griffin was slated for merely stating that a lot of people are uncomfortable with seeing two men kissing in public, and the fact of the matter is that they are. I wasn't judging, just pointing out the quite ridiculous nature of the show smile.gif
As for gays poncing about, then that doesn't particularly bother me. Straight folk poncing about annoys me just as much smile.gif
As I said, every ****er should just get on with it, each to their own

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yip!
mortonjag 2009-10-23 23:41:31
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Oct 23 2009, 11:37 PM) [snapback]661469[/snapback]
Postman Pat, Postman Pat
Postman Pat and his unionised cat,
Early in the morning,
They're still in bed a-snoring,
And I'm wondering where's my post you ****ing t***.

In its litter box?
mortonjag 2009-10-23 23:43:01
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Oct 23 2009, 11:40 PM) [snapback]661471[/snapback]
I think you'd quite enjoy it actually........

School playground compared to the MSC I'd guess! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-23 23:47:45
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Oct 23 2009, 11:37 PM) [snapback]661470[/snapback]
Nick Griffin stated last night that he wanted it to happen behind closed doors for homosexuals. No other group were mentioned whether it was teenager hetrosexuals old age pensioners hetro sexuals or any other group. Why specifically mention and focus on homosexuals. Not sure if he likes lesbian shows of effection in public? Sadly some people have had laws forced on them to make it illegal to do so and also they have had violence etc aimed towards them for doing such acts whether public or in private and whether u agree with it or not i guess that is a reason for gay pride marches that finally it is not illegal and that is to be celebrated as being normal and not to be ashamed of acting out their feelings as it was not that long ago.

I understand where you're coming from, but there is the matter of what's generally perceived to be 'normal' and acceptable. Many people enjoy humping animals - I assume they regard that as 'normal and nothing to be ashamed of' and I imagine that if the animals are adult and consenting and it's done in private, it's no big deal really.
mortonjag 2009-10-23 23:55:40
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Oct 23 2009, 11:46 PM) [snapback]661475[/snapback]
Big time! Troosirs rolled up, goats! the lot!

Billy and gruff? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-24 07:03:58 Foiled!
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Excerpt:

A pipe band and trade mission from Pakistan denied entry to Scotland had a “track record†of absconding while in the UK, according to a leaked letter from Immigration Minister Phil Woolas.

Mr Woolas is reported to frequent Pittodrie stadium of a Saturday afternoon.
mortonjag 2009-10-24 07:11:29
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Oct 24 2009, 12:09 AM) [snapback]661481[/snapback]
laugh.gif Do you imagine this quite alot. At what age can an animal give consent? I am not sure of the law on that I stand corrected but isn't humping any animal illegal no matter their age.
As u imagine this have you taken this a step further laugh.gif

Five with that giraffe.
mortonjag 2009-10-24 07:14:56
QUOTE(delboy66 @ Oct 24 2009, 02:56 AM) [snapback]661493[/snapback]
Spoke to DI this morning, & is message for mortonjag was when was the last time he played, semi pro at the age of 48.
He then says get it right up ye!! & away back to Newlands ya F...Y. tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2009-10-24 07:35:39 Hee hee


Excerpt:


Ms Potter said: "Two girls were walking along Sauchiehall Street when they saw a male bend over in front of them exposing a pink thong. The man disappeared into a lane, and as the females passed by he pulled his trousers down once again, exposing the pink thong." unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-24 08:07:48 Sad to see such little interest in prediction time those days, especially when we've been given a 'new start'.

Brian Graham's been getting a lot of stick from folk and I don't understand why. A winning goal from him today would shut their gobs for five minutes! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-24 08:35:18
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 24 2009, 08:29 AM) [snapback]661512[/snapback]
And I thought you were mad MJ.

You were correct Barbie! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-24 08:36:47
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 24 2009, 08:09 AM) [snapback]661509[/snapback]
Oh for Christ's sake get a grip. Bullying a teenager. For shame indeed. mad.gif

I can't blame you for sticking up for your boyfriend Peter! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-24 09:12:46
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 24 2009, 08:47 AM) [snapback]661515[/snapback]
That pipe band was utter sh1te anyway!

[codebox]I'm trying to dodge the issue as usual.[/codebox]
mortonjag 2009-10-24 09:16:45
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 24 2009, 09:09 AM) [snapback]661516[/snapback]
Naw, not for me, sorry. It's all a bit like Enid Blyton's Secret Seven, too much of a carry on for me to be bothered. And I wouldn't be able to keep a straight face. But as you say, each to his own.

Memories of childhood
mortonjag 2009-10-24 09:19:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 24 2009, 09:18 AM) [snapback]661519[/snapback]
It's very cute that you have finally worked out how to put in the codes, I'm very proud of you!

There is no real issue there, unless of course you actually think I am a gangmaster helping pakistani 'pipers' get into Britian through the World Pipe Band Championships. And if that is the case, either increase or dosage or have it greatly reduced.

[codebox]I'm really struggling now[/codebox]
mortonjag 2009-10-24 09:22:42
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 24 2009, 09:20 AM) [snapback]661521[/snapback]
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[codebox]I'll try diversion













tactics[/codebox]
mortonjag 2009-10-24 09:26:16
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 24 2009, 09:25 AM) [snapback]661523[/snapback]
fail

JAIL! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-24 09:34:35
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 24 2009, 09:30 AM) [snapback]661525[/snapback]
Um no, let's try putting it in equation form:
if you have: x + y = 3
and y always = 0, then y is always eliminated first from the equation as static and redundant.

Read x as 'disabled', y as student and 3 as 'free'.

You're trying to be a pedant but unfortunately your pedantry isn't realy attached to this thread in any way shape or form.

[codebox]I'm talking in riddles as usual[/codebox]
mortonjag 2009-10-24 09:35:51
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 24 2009, 09:31 AM) [snapback]661526[/snapback]
What have you done, Mengele?

Planned your last supper darling! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-24 09:54:29
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 24 2009, 09:45 AM) [snapback]661533[/snapback]
Riddles? It's not hieroglyphs you imbecile.

[codebox]I got it wrong again[/codebox]
mortonjag 2009-10-24 09:56:33
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 24 2009, 09:45 AM) [snapback]661534[/snapback]
Oh dear. What a sad and unfulfilling life you lead.

I shall fill fully on your sparse neuronal tissue sweetie. Your skull shall have a place of honour in my cellar! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-24 09:59:50
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Oct 24 2009, 09:51 AM) [snapback]661535[/snapback]
Not really any different from going to chapel, all that kneeling down, standing up, making wee signs on your head and shoulders and chest, shaking hands, dipping yir hands in water and going up for a slug of cheap wine.
Same stew, just a different gravy.

No confession time though.

SPARROT --- 'Father, forgive me for I have sinned'

Fr. --- 'Have you been cheating on me again'?

mortonjag 2009-10-24 10:05:12
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Oct 24 2009, 10:02 AM) [snapback]661541[/snapback]
Not at all... I'm not having a go at anyone for whatever religion they want to follow. Just pointing out a lot of these other "religions" have their own wee quirky ways.

Like the Baptists and 'full immersion'. There was a case many years ago in Ayrshire when somebody was electrocuted in the baptismal tank because the immersion heater has not been wired properly. It was hailed as a tragedy. I saw it more as gatecrashing Heaven.
mortonjag 2009-10-24 10:08:09
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Oct 24 2009, 10:01 AM) [snapback]661540[/snapback]
An experienced man will never be brought in as Dougie likes his up and coming managers to put his arm around them and show them how it's done.

Shoogly for ever! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-24 10:10:55
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 24 2009, 10:08 AM) [snapback]661545[/snapback]
[spoiler]If it takes the jag so long to jump in on something others have been doing on the board for years then how long til he uses this?[/spoiler]

[spoiler]The jag is only playing children's games because he's bored[/spoiler]
mortonjag 2009-10-24 10:15:51 Had one last night for the first time in ages, and was just thinking about the money that's wasted on fast food by 'working class' families who claim to be skint!

Well it was effin' magic - fed me (twice), the missus, and that dug (no - NOT her pal dry.gif ) for less than £2 including the tatties, carrots and onions. blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-24 10:18:09
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Oct 24 2009, 10:16 AM) [snapback]661551[/snapback]
Fancy a game of this then ? rolleyes.gif
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mortonjag 2009-10-24 10:38:08
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 24 2009, 10:30 AM) [snapback]661557[/snapback]
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I'm trying to be cool on a messageboard

[codebox]Gangmaster thinks he's cool[/codebox]
mortonjag 2009-10-24 12:35:08
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 24 2009, 11:16 AM) [snapback]661567[/snapback]
This board is rapidly going to the dogs. It's not been good for a while but threads like this add nothing.

Davie McArthur
For shame.
42 years old
Male
East Kilbride
Born April-30-1967
Interests
Cynicism and intolerance. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-24 12:40:15
QUOTE(rawheed rex @ Oct 24 2009, 12:35 PM) [snapback]661590[/snapback]
if a frog had wings it wouldnt bump its arse when it hops.

G'on yersel Brian!
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mortonjag 2009-10-24 12:45:11
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 24 2009, 12:40 PM) [snapback]661595[/snapback]
But you are missing the important point. Student or not, a disabled person would still get free bus travel. That is the lowest common denominator.

Being a student in this instance is irrelevant.

Now if you said that a person was getting free travel because they were a student then it would make sense.

No he's NOT, PD.

Clarity of thought is clearly not your forte! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-24 12:45:52
QUOTE(forza ton @ Oct 24 2009, 12:37 PM) [snapback]661592[/snapback]
7.35 am as well!

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mortonjag 2009-10-25 06:43:04
QUOTE(centralTON @ Oct 24 2009, 08:29 PM) [snapback]661878[/snapback]
I have met vT "in the real world" a few times and actually like him (yeh I'm sure I'm in the minority there), but each to their own.

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St Francis! wink.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-25 07:06:37
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 24 2009, 07:53 PM) [snapback]661842[/snapback]
You'll try and fail at doing so, unsurprisingly.

You'll try, and unsurprisingly you'll fail.

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 24 2009, 08:01 PM) [snapback]661852[/snapback]
I'm still waiting for you to paragraph your fail.

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QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 24 2009, 08:13 PM) [snapback]661865[/snapback]
If you can't put forward a constructive point then you'll be treated like the imbecile you clearly are.

......and if he can, you'll still claim he's an imbecile, because there are not enough of you to go around?? dry.gif

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 24 2009, 08:14 PM) [snapback]661867[/snapback]
Reading involves analysis of words. Sentence structure is a different concept.

SPARROT hath splurged - all must listen.

'Sentence structure', he squeaks, 'is a different concept'.

Does this poor downtrodden bullied and virginal little cherub imagine he's expounding on the Law?

Not the sharpest tool in the box, our little student fellow - not by a LONG chalk! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-25 07:13:27
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 24 2009, 07:42 PM) [snapback]661832[/snapback]
no change for you there then, mj.......

Percy with another unsolicited grunt! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-25 07:15:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 24 2009, 04:46 PM) [snapback]661791[/snapback]
Get yersel down to Cappielow then. If you can improve that lot it'll be a bloody miracle, worthy of beatification I'd say.

They're getting beatified quite a lot these days Mr E! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-25 07:26:18
QUOTE(piehutt @ Oct 25 2009, 01:37 AM) [snapback]661955[/snapback]
I think we've been really unlucky the last two weeks. Just didn't take our chances when we were on top and punished for it.

1st half today we were like rabbits caught in headlights, but once we realised that Dunfermline aint up to much we played some really decent stuff and, like last week, had the lions share of the chances at 0-0 to go ahead.

Once again, a combination of decent saves, poor finishing and bad luck cost us. Again, at 2-1 we had some good spells of pressure to get an equaliser and only really lost the 3rd cause we were pushing so many forward.

Sure, we can't go on bemoaning bad luck and poor finishing for poor results or we'll just start to feel sorry for ourselves. But if we can get the team out with a positive demeanour and to stay in games as long as possible then we'll pick up the odd win.

Also it should now be noted; Cuthbert, Shimmin, Walker, MacFarlane, Jenkins, Masterton and now Graham injured. 7 players, 6 of whom would def start if fit, and in the case of Masterton would start if in form and would def feature in a game. That really is a horrendous injury list to cope with, given our squad aint got much depth to it.

So no, I don't think a new manager would make much of a difference given our resources.

ps. If you want to look at a squad underachieving then take a look at Dunfermline. Most of their players have had SPL experience and really I don't think they were much better than our patched up team today.



Piehole, I applaud your perception.

With the players available today, we probably did as well as could have ultimately been expected.

Certainly NOT JG's fault.


So where does Shoogly go now? We're still keeping the gap open between us and the 'Err twins' (Er and Erdry), we're NOT hoping for promotion, and we apparently can't afford more pennies right now (or LEAFY would have got a wee shot yesterday).

If Mr Rae splashes the invisible cash, a new Manager will start to get results as the injuries clear up, and will be hailed as the Messiah. If he hangs on to JG I'd imagine the same will happen.
mortonjag 2009-10-25 07:31:38
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 25 2009, 06:43 AM) [snapback]661965[/snapback]
“I do think there has been progress since we took over,†Grady said. “But there hasn’t been a stable level of performance; one week we’re up, the next, down.

In this division, you’re better to be a seven out of 10 every week than eight one week and five the next.â€

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/more-s...rton-1-1.928235

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Is 7/10 that much better than 6.5/10 ??

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How many managers does it take to sharpen a pencil?
mortonjag 2009-10-25 07:37:12
QUOTE(vespaton @ Oct 24 2009, 08:51 PM) [snapback]661894[/snapback]
I'm glad I called it right.....JG and AM.....2 numpty's who stab in the back.....they have now realised the job is harder than they thought.....total rookies....get them to F*** and those awful, awful players who have in my mind ridiculed our club.

Let's start afresh and regain our dignity.....roll on new manager and end of year contract terminations

BP.

Psychosis is treatable.

QUOTE(delboy66 @ Oct 24 2009, 10:29 PM) [snapback]661918[/snapback]
Quite correct in everything you say, D.I was stabbed in the back but this is a anual sport at Cappielow now just ask Cowboy, also a few of the players at Cappielow in the past few years have have been a f.....g disgrace to this once proud club, taking money off a sugar daddy & giving him, the club, or its supporters nothing back in return.
& now they are wondering why supporters are turning against them what do they expect?? thank f..k the situation is now going to come to a close this week, dont turn back & look both of you, just keep walking all the way back to Pishley town & take M.J with you both, thanks for the crap moments you both endured on this once proud Morton support & bring on our new boss.

You've been speaking to Sheep Lips again, Bellboy! rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(delboy66 @ Oct 25 2009, 01:09 AM) [snapback]661951[/snapback]
Dont bet on it these two are lower than a snakes belly. mad.gif


Maybe they'll give your wee tum a tickle then! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-25 15:24:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 25 2009, 08:58 AM) [snapback]661979[/snapback]
If it takes 2 managers 3 weeks to drill through Dumbarton Rock with a carrot, how long will it take 5 managers with a sharpened pencil ?

Depends on the ambient temperature, Newt.
mortonjag 2009-10-25 15:33:46
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Oct 25 2009, 10:45 AM) [snapback]662007[/snapback]
I am inclined to agree with that. Can you Doc indicate how long you think players will be out for given their condition

1) Masterton and Walker both had Hernia ops on Friday Morning (23 Oct)
2) Jenkins Medial ligament damage
3) Cuthbert broken bone in foot (metatarsal?) broken in August

Will Shimmin ever play for us again with his chronic hamstring problems?

I would guess MacFarlane will be available next week but Graham's injury looked pretty bad and so he might be months out also.

I reckon Cuthbert must surely be back fairly soon. Ligament damage is difficult to assess. I'll be surprised if Jenks is fully fit before the new year. The hernia boys should be back earlier. We've had the Devil's luck with injuries this season! huh.gif

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 25 2009, 12:30 PM) [snapback]662029[/snapback]
With the vast majority of the squad out of contract in the summer, the new manager is tasked firstly with securing as comfortable a season as possible, looking to reshuffle the squad as possible in January, and assess who can stay among the significant amount of players who really should be leaving this summer.
I think Grady's midfield selection yesterday was bizarre, and the same basic mistakes that were happening under Irons continue despite changing the training regimes.


You sure talk a whole load of puerile crap. Would you care to say what you actually mean by that piece of rubbish? dry.gif


QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 25 2009, 01:21 PM) [snapback]662034[/snapback]
I don't imagine Alloa will be paying much, if any, of his wages.
As far as I can see, Irons saw Russell as out of the picture for the time being and wanted him to get regular first team action elsewhere. Bearing in mind that we technically had four strikers ahead of him in the pecking order at the time.

FAIL
mortonjag 2009-10-25 15:39:09
QUOTE(leyTON @ Oct 25 2009, 01:52 PM) [snapback]662043[/snapback]
hes quite personable really, and his patters good after 10 pints of cider and black

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mortonjag 2009-10-25 15:47:35
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 25 2009, 01:03 PM) [snapback]662031[/snapback]
An excellent piece by Ms Gray in today's Sunday Herald:

http://heraldscotland.com/comment/muriel-g...-heard-1.928231

I'd struggle to disagree with a word of it.
Edit to add: The Sunday Herald is rather good today. Ian Bell is publicly outing himself as a 'Connollyite Marxist' ( that'll be James not Billy I hope) and MacWhirter is having a go at the BNP as well as the robbing bankers.
There's hope for Scottish campaigning journalism yet.

Muriel Gray is an odd creature, though she often talks a good game.

QUOTE(cmdc @ Oct 25 2009, 01:17 PM) [snapback]662033[/snapback]
That is a good article on the issue of extremism/racism, although (and I'm no Nat) I think she is a little harsh on Salmond. The example I gave earlier in the thread of the SNP government's giving education rights to the children of asylum seekers is a great (albeit, in isolation, insufficient) example of the types of specifics which Gray is looking for.

p.s. MJ - I didn't meet with the woman I was hoping to discuss the immigration numbers with - as soon as I do I'll PM you (if I remember to, I'm absent minded that way!).

TY, and I hope you had a jolly birthday! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-25 15:50:12
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 25 2009, 08:40 AM) [snapback]661975[/snapback]
It never seems to have. Mines doesn't anyway. My mobile never either! Only thing near to me this morning that did was my PC.

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mortonjag 2009-10-25 16:10:24
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Oct 25 2009, 04:03 PM) [snapback]662074[/snapback]
Of course a new manager would make a difference.

For a start, he'd (hopefully) make sure his players are fit enough to play the full 90 minutes and be able to train for more than an hour and a half. He'd have his players well drilled in the basics of the game, and make sure everyone knows their role in the team perfectly from the off. He'd be able to respond to the flow of the game by making small, discreet changes to try and influence things, and he'd be able to counter changes from his opposite number.
Regardless of the limitations of the current squad, it should be capable of more and being able to maximise what ability there is is why we need a new manager. We can sign all the players we want, but until we have a capable manager we're never going to progress anywhere.

There is something inherently illogical in that statement Eeny! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-25 16:19:55 The way things are shaping, the pennies (what pennies?) would be better spent in the January transfer window. If JG and AM haven't 'cut the mustard' by May, by all means get a new Manager then.

I'm just wondering and not for the first time where all the money's going to come from.

Can anybody answer that question? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-25 16:22:35
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Oct 25 2009, 04:14 PM) [snapback]662077[/snapback]
Go on then...
...or is it just your usual nonsense of having nothing constructive to say other than some daft wee comment?

Cream puff! laugh.gif

Your statement is not logical - simple as that.

Crap Managers often flatter to deceive when money is thrown at a squad. The opposite also applies.
mortonjag 2009-10-25 16:24:28
QUOTE(binnie @ Oct 25 2009, 04:21 PM) [snapback]662079[/snapback]
hes not got any more money to put in.

...and there's less and less coming in!

Not very cheering really! sad.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-25 16:33:54
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Oct 25 2009, 04:26 PM) [snapback]662083[/snapback]
So what exactly is your point? I think it's blatantly obvious to any Morton fan that we need a good manager to progress. The money has been there, the players have, to an extent, been there, but a succession of bad managers have made an absolute mess of it. We need someone who was a clue what they are doing on and off the pitch if we ever hope to become an SPL side. What exactly is illogical about that?

I think it's blatantly obvious to any thinking Morton supporter that we need money to progress. We haven't got it right now, but Rae's contemplating spending more. It doesn't add up.

Where I do agree with you is that our signing policy has been a shambles and we're now paying the price for that.

Rae, of course, oversees the signings.

Rae also signs the Managers.

A joint effort from Mourinho, Ferguson, and God Almighty would have failed to put together a winning Morton team yesterday.

Wake up and smell the Fudgy Wudgy, Eeny! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-25 16:34:43
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Oct 25 2009, 04:33 PM) [snapback]662086[/snapback]
That doesn't make his statement illogical.

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mortonjag 2009-10-25 16:37:12
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 25 2009, 04:33 PM) [snapback]662085[/snapback]
An AGM or Q and A will answer any questions you have smile.gif

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Not according to those who asked.
mortonjag 2009-10-25 16:51:59
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 25 2009, 04:42 PM) [snapback]662093[/snapback]
You should try brushing up on your comprehension skills, I'm not in the business of repeating myself for the thick.

Nor am I dear.

Please explain exactly what you were trying to say!

I'll take a refusal as an acknowledgement that you were talking complete mince as usual! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-25 16:53:21
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 25 2009, 04:51 PM) [snapback]662096[/snapback]
...well if you want something done right wink.gif

...don't ask Shoogly? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-25 16:58:00
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 25 2009, 04:56 PM) [snapback]662100[/snapback]
...go to London? unsure.gif

send for Kelly? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-25 17:06:46
QUOTE(montheton @ Oct 25 2009, 04:58 PM) [snapback]662103[/snapback]
To be honest, we have had this problem for the last few seasons and either jm or di couldent find or chose not to bring the the correct players to the club. Who do you trust to bring the correct player/s? someone who you have specificly brought in to sort the team out with the required experience or 2 ex-squad players or the chairman? At least if you bring in the manager now you might not have to waste money now on the wrong players, than waiting to the summer when he(the new manager) has to remove some more poor choices in the transfer market in effect giving him less cash to use himself.

As far as I'm led to believe, the club is currently skint, and we have a huge injury problem which won't disappear overnight. Bringing in a new Manager now will cost money (where do we get that) and won't markedly improve our on field options.

For the third season in the First Division we're heading towards winter and a mere fart off the arse of the league. Again it's about survival till May.

A new Manager now will be no quick fix.

mortonjag 2009-10-25 17:12:51
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 25 2009, 05:10 PM) [snapback]662114[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-10-25 17:13:39
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 25 2009, 05:11 PM) [snapback]662115[/snapback]
What are you going to do with them?

and with which end? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-25 17:18:07
QUOTE(montheton @ Oct 25 2009, 05:15 PM) [snapback]662122[/snapback]
Poor choices in the transfer market will cost money too. A new manager is not supposed to be a quick fix more of a long term position to build a team. If there is no money available for a new manager why go through with advertising the post and interviewing possible candidates?

Because Rae is more interested in being seen to do the right thing than in actually doing it.
mortonjag 2009-10-25 17:27:31
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Oct 25 2009, 05:22 PM) [snapback]662128[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-10-25 17:32:36
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Oct 25 2009, 05:20 PM) [snapback]662126[/snapback]
No, we don't. Not in any Gretna-esque way, at least.
What we need is a little bit of ingenuity, shrewdness and vision in the transfer market, coupled with the ability to squeeze the best out of what we have at our disposal. Did Partick spend much on the team that beat us 5-0? Did Airdrie? Did Hamilton splash the cash to win the league two years ago? St. Johnstone? No, is the answer to all of them. Similarly, I could mention Brechin and Stranraer who got promoted ahead of us in the 2nd Division, or Peterhead who dumped us out of the play-offs. Likewise, Queen of the South got themselves to the Scottish Cup final and the UEFA Cup. Apart from Gretna and Dundee, the SFL hasn't been littered with teams spending huge amounts of money, yet we are finding ourselves slipping behind, even over-taking by clubs of a similar stature simply because no-one at Cappielow has a clue what they're doing when it comes to using what money is available.
The current wage budget should be more than sufficient for a manager with any sort of nouse in the transfer market. Yes, it may be that we might have to dig out a few grand for a striker in the summer, but I'd be expecting Moore (presuming it is going to be him) to be a very busy man come December with regards to fixing up a number of pre-contract agreements, and to be making some intelligent forays in to the loan market.
Throwing money about isn't what we need. Intelligence and imagination are the major requirements, from the manager up.

Where will the money come from to pay Moore, and the rest of Sheep Lips/DC's wages, and to underwrite the results of the highlighted actions?
mortonjag 2009-10-25 17:35:16
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Oct 25 2009, 05:30 PM) [snapback]662140[/snapback]
Remember Davie, kids use this board.

Ipse dixit! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-25 17:48:25
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Oct 25 2009, 05:37 PM) [snapback]662143[/snapback]
I don't agree with the folk who want Dougie to dig into his own pockets every time we lose a game, but if he choses to appoint some diddy like Irons, well I see no reason why he shouldn't be responsible for finding a way out of his own mess.
Edit: To pay for the "results" of the actions will involve giving them the wages of the players they are replacing, funnily enough. Imagine that, eh?


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QUOTE(JonaTon @ Oct 25 2009, 05:40 PM) [snapback]662144[/snapback]
I know money is tight but for me there is no way you can give the job to an inexperienced caretaker management pair who have lost three matches (in a row) - two of which were at home - out of five.

In my opinion we need someone with managerial experience to come in from the outside.

That would be the ideal - I don't disagree in principle, but I think the timing may be wrong.
mortonjag 2009-10-25 17:52:19
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Oct 25 2009, 05:50 PM) [snapback]662148[/snapback]
Yes, yes. I'm sure I could highlight selected parts of posts to totally alter the meaning of it too rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2009-10-25 19:03:49
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Oct 25 2009, 06:24 PM) [snapback]662160[/snapback]
Well, I presumed there had to be some sort of purpose to your wee face, and I presumed that your selected highlighting was supposed to be an attempt to miscue my original post.
Then again, I suppose expecting you to actually have something to contribute other than a silly wee comment about spelling or a wee smilie is maybe hoping for a bit much rolleyes.gif

There's no need to be obstreperous just because you made a 'boo boo' Eeny.

In the same sentence you suggested that folk shouldn't expect Shoogly to raid his Casket, adding that he should be getting himself out of his own mess! Is it OK with you if I add a couple of those?
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mortonjag 2009-10-25 19:05:43
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Oct 25 2009, 06:01 PM) [snapback]662151[/snapback]
I agree. He should've been appointed before Saturday's match against Dunfermline. tongue.gif

...and his after match excuse would have been? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-25 19:08:45
QUOTE(forza ton @ Oct 25 2009, 06:59 PM) [snapback]662191[/snapback]
tom what the fcuk is your signature about? no middle ground there no? just because adam smith said it doesn't mean it's right. i actually thought better of you than to deal in absolutes. are you just being lazy to prove one of your ridiculous points? you're all to eager to jump in in agreement with others when your lot excell themselves in bulls***.

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WTF is this Smith guy-is he anything to do with Morrisey?
mortonjag 2009-10-25 19:11:36 Looks like the Dee are trying to go somewhere! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-25 19:13:41
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 25 2009, 07:07 PM) [snapback]662196[/snapback]
Almost looks like a disease! laugh.gif

Not the dreaded Black Death?
mortonjag 2009-10-25 19:17:05
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 25 2009, 07:13 PM) [snapback]662207[/snapback]
Aye, to bankruptcy

Possibly.

Could also be seen as an investment!
mortonjag 2009-10-25 19:18:09
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 25 2009, 07:12 PM) [snapback]662206[/snapback]
He takes the Boscuit. ph34r.gif

At least he's not crackers! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-25 19:20:05
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 25 2009, 07:14 PM) [snapback]662210[/snapback]
Or the Red Death.

Or the evil brown katies! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-25 19:23:25
QUOTE(forza ton @ Oct 25 2009, 07:17 PM) [snapback]662213[/snapback]
there's a lot of nonsense afoot here. it's either just nastiness or absolute ignorance. why oh why do people jump from a mainstream party to the bnp? you hear it on the news in nw england "i'm sorry but i voted bnp because no-one else is listening." aye like immigration is the big problem. it shows how ignorant some of the electorate are to go from labour to bn fukin p. like there's no other option. of course there are problems with immigration! doesn't mean we "send them all back" ffs.

some of the nasty , ignorant pish on here defies belief re race and homosexuality.

the old "no-one else is listening" line is actually embarrassing. the turnout at elections is so low that there is no way all the new bnp fans even voted last time round. and if they did and they are worried about immigration are they all at local government surgeries putting democracy into action by raising their concerns? are they ****. it's just jumping on the lowest common denominator, be it asians, blacks or gays. ****'s sake wake up people.

if you think "the bnp have some good policies" you need to have a word with yourself. they don't have any proper policies. the mainstream have let us down granted but to switch from them in a heartbeat to fascists is insane.

anyone here have kids or family who are "mixed race" or disabled? then you just need to track down mark collett on the internet to see what he has in store.

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The current surge in BNP voters is a protest, and it's a legitimate protest. I'd guess that only a small proportion could be truly termed racist or fascist.
mortonjag 2009-10-25 19:27:06
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Oct 25 2009, 07:20 PM) [snapback]662216[/snapback]
I don't think he'd have needed an excuse for getting a win.

Seriously though, a new manager might not have got a result either but he wouldn't have had the time Grady's had to work with the team.

I can see an improvement under Grady and McManus but it's definitely not been enough to get them the job. I feel we'd have been better appointing a new man sooner rather than later. Waiting until after the Dunfermline match was unneccessary - unless the decision was made because they had to iron out a few things with Moore rather than actually giving Grady /McManus another match to prove they were worth the job.

If a new manager can genuinely be afforded without sacrificing anything else, I'm all for that.
mortonjag 2009-10-25 19:32:27
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 25 2009, 07:24 PM) [snapback]662218[/snapback]
What surge in BNP voters?

The current one dear! Did you think I was referring to a fruit?

Dictionary: cur·rent (kûr'ənt, kŭr'-)

adj.
Belonging to the present time: current events; current leaders.
Being in progress now: current negotiations.
Passing from one to another; circulating: current bills and coins.
Prevalent, especially at the present time: current fashions. See synonyms at prevailing.
Running; flowing.

QUOTE(forza ton @ Oct 25 2009, 07:30 PM) [snapback]662220[/snapback]
legitimate? protest my arse. why not vote for the other mainstream parties? many who vote for the bnp are maybe not truly racist or fascist but they're at best very ill informed. would you not agree?

there is no excuse other than nastiness or ignorance to vote for those people.


Indeed.
mortonjag 2009-10-25 19:35:26
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 25 2009, 07:32 PM) [snapback]662223[/snapback]
In football these days? It is so rare in Scotland that I don't even think it would be worth the gamble taking!

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We're all doomed! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-25 19:40:40
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 25 2009, 07:34 PM) [snapback]662227[/snapback]

25% for the stat. you last quoted, though I'd not expect a baby accountant from a quasi Uni to understand figures! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-25 19:43:45
QUOTE(forza ton @ Oct 25 2009, 07:42 PM) [snapback]662236[/snapback]
i wish it was a wind up.

race is a ludicrous thing to get all het up about. politics, religion are fair game but race is a non starter.

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mortonjag 2009-10-25 19:55:34
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 25 2009, 07:44 PM) [snapback]662238[/snapback]
So 'slightly up' in terms of vote share is a surge to you!

I hope you never change your light bulb wattage, you may expect the grid to go out!

You don't understand electricity either-oh dear!

QUOTE(forza ton @ Oct 25 2009, 07:45 PM) [snapback]662240[/snapback]
absolute clown. whether your whole persona is a wind up or not you're a pie. fukin nasty wee weirdo

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Not a nice thing to say to somebody just because he tells the truth! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-25 19:58:00
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Oct 25 2009, 07:55 PM) [snapback]662246[/snapback]
I don't know, having the right manager is very important. I'd be willing to sacrfice a lot of things for us to start getting it right on the park and challenging for a place in the SPL.

Another thing I think that is worth remembering is that Grady's playing contract is up in January. If he is kept on as manager then he'd have to get a new contract in the new year. So having him as manager wouldn't really be saving us any wages as I can't see a new manager keeping him on as a player.

Agreed, but it could be very short term.
mortonjag 2009-10-25 19:59:14
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Oct 25 2009, 07:54 PM) [snapback]662245[/snapback]
Please explain.

Wanting more than others? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-25 20:02:35
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Oct 25 2009, 07:57 PM) [snapback]662249[/snapback]
As I mentioned before, the BNPs percentage increase in the last EU elections from 4.9% to 6.1% was due to the collapse of the Labour vote and not due to a 'surge' in the BNP vote which was in fact static in terms of number of votes cast.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/europea...esults-map-2009

I see. So 6.1% and 4.9% are actually the same.

Very good! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-25 20:05:39
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Oct 25 2009, 07:59 PM) [snapback]662253[/snapback]
nope it aint over and tbh I hope that before it does end dungdee disappear through it, the dough they have spent is outragous and if they dont win the league this time they should jack it in altogether. There is no way they will get him for 500k any how, he has to be worth at least double that especially since he became part of the international set up, back to the drawing board melville.

They do have a tradition as a top flight club, ahead of their rivals across the road.

If somebody loves the club enough and is willing to splash, good luck I say.

Much better that a self indulgent Steptoe in my book any old day! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-25 20:13:31
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 25 2009, 08:03 PM) [snapback]662258[/snapback]
So a movement from 4.9% to 6.1% is a surge?

Very good! laugh.gif


Yes my little accountant fellow - a 24% increase IS a 'surge' when it occurs in a relatively short time. By the same token a 100% increase over a much longer term could well be described as a trickle. I do hope you like the electrical analogies! laugh.gif


QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Oct 25 2009, 08:06 PM) [snapback]662260[/snapback]
In terms of number of votes cast, yes.

It's pretty simple stuff actually - the number of people voting BNP in the last 2 European elections was the same, the percentage increase is due to a lower turnout.

I think a 5 year old could have grasped that by now.

So in RELATIVE terms the power was increased!

Like eleven play eleven becomes eleven play seven - but of course the effect is invalid because....
mortonjag 2009-10-25 20:15:42
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Oct 25 2009, 08:08 PM) [snapback]662262[/snapback]
Melville's an Aberdeen fan.

This will all end in tears.

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mortonjag 2009-10-25 20:29:29
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Oct 25 2009, 08:26 PM) [snapback]662268[/snapback]
I dont really think it matters who is in charge, the team seem to rule the roost any how, we get moore in it costs, we get someone else in who may have been out of the game for a while that will also have an impact. either way its a lose lose situation. The new manager as jonaton says should have been appointed before the Dunfermline game, thank god for Ayr and Airdrie but one thing for sure i wouldn't rely on them to lose every week, which is something we are consistant at.

A new manager who ever it is will have his work cut out not just with this team but with injuries within it. I would be surprised if Dom plays for us again, MacFarlane is out for weeks as is Brian and Stevie. whoever comes in is not in a good position.

Good luck to whoever it is..............they will need it.

and if they don't get it? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-25 20:38:54
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Oct 25 2009, 08:34 PM) [snapback]662274[/snapback]
[b
DOOMED

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mortonjag 2009-10-25 20:40:30
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Oct 25 2009, 08:36 PM) [snapback]662275[/snapback]
Yes, as a percentage their vote has increased due to the collapse of the Labour vote, that is not in dispute by anyone.

But your statement, and I quote, 'the current surge in BNP voters', is factually incorrect. There were no more BNP voters in 2009 EU election than there was in the 2004 one (give or take a couple of thousand).

Did I mention 'Europe'?
mortonjag 2009-10-25 20:45:40
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Oct 25 2009, 08:41 PM) [snapback]662279[/snapback]
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Away and lie in yer pish. laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2009-10-25 20:52:24
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 25 2009, 08:50 PM) [snapback]662283[/snapback]
I'm quite prepared to believe there's some truth in that, which makes it all the sadder that when he's on here he comes over as a priggish and annoying moronicjag wannabe who isn't half as smart as he thinks he is.
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hmmm, maybe he won't be a "wannabe" for too much longer then.......

He's not your love child then Percy? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-25 21:00:56
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Oct 25 2009, 07:51 PM) [snapback]662244[/snapback]
He's out of hospital apparently. smile.gif

Complete with MRSA? dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-25 21:02:34
QUOTE(forza ton @ Oct 25 2009, 09:00 PM) [snapback]662292[/snapback]
no violence from me beermonkey.

it has to be said though that you are one of the most humourless, thick, boring twats that's posted on here in the last 5 years.

always with the wee nasty posts with fukc all to back up yer s***e. s***ey wee soundbites that you've garnered from elsewhere.

penis

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mortonjag 2009-10-25 21:11:31
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 25 2009, 09:09 PM) [snapback]662299[/snapback]
Flattering though it is to find you taking an interest in my sexlife, Mr Pooter, no he ain't, and thank the Lord for that.

You appear to be confusing me with your butler, Percy! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-25 21:32:24
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 25 2009, 09:26 PM) [snapback]662322[/snapback]
blink.gif I haven't even mistaken you for HUMAN - I thought you were a Hobbit by the name of Brillo Bawsac or something similar!!

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Coming from Bendo Bumwart, your comment could be construed as jealousy.
mortonjag 2009-10-26 06:20:09
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Oct 25 2009, 10:32 PM) [snapback]662351[/snapback]
But that isn't what I said, was it? I said that I don't agree with the idea that Rae is obliged to spend his own money to cure all our ills, which you often seem to think is the case. However, if Rae is going to insist on appointing a dud like Irons, then at this stage I feel it is up to him to recover the situation, and if that means he has to use his own money to do so, then so be it. That is NOT the same thing as wanting him to "raid his Casket" to buy this player and that, but sometimes it just has to be done.
The idea that a manager isn't important and that we should just get by is quite bizarre though. If a manager wasn't an integral part of the system, then teams wouldn't bother with one in the first place! It's imperative that we get a good manager in now, and if that means sacrificing a signing then so be it, because if we don't we're just going to find ourselves back in the same situation or worse a year or so down the line.

So far as I can see that was what you said! wink.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-26 06:22:18
QUOTE(MaxTon1874 @ Oct 25 2009, 10:59 PM) [snapback]662359[/snapback]
Thats why Dundee will be champions come the league ending. Trying to go some place you say? yeh its called SPL some place we will never see just now anyway laugh.gif laugh.gif .

You put money into a team like that and invest, they win the title its as simple as that.......Dont worry Brian Graham should be fit by next week wink.gif .

.....and Shoogly will dance naked on the centre spot to the strains of the Hallelujah Chorus played in ragtime on PD's chanter.
mortonjag 2009-10-26 06:24:19
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 25 2009, 09:50 PM) [snapback]662334[/snapback]
You need to seek professional help.

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mortonjag 2009-10-26 06:33:53
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 25 2009, 11:35 PM) [snapback]662367[/snapback]
Those who like to flirt with the right wing would do well to remember this:

First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for the communists
and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for me -
and by then there was no one left to speak out for me.

Pastor Martin Niemöller

FFS Peter wi' a haunle like that I'm not surprised you post under McArthur. nerd.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-26 06:46:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 26 2009, 05:58 AM) [snapback]662377[/snapback]

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That SPARROT is a masturbator causes no dispute
The reason for his title is a little different, Newt
He reads. He then regurgitates-all mindless like a parrot
Crossed with a sponge - I have accordingly resolved to call him SPARROT.
mortonjag 2009-10-26 06:52:22
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 26 2009, 06:50 AM) [snapback]662384[/snapback]
Niemöller is on my mother's side Douglas. happy.gif

FFS Peter - tattoos in the elderly!

Bet she was a real raver in her day! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-26 07:02:40
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 26 2009, 06:59 AM) [snapback]662386[/snapback]
And if you don't win the league...you may go under due to the size of the financial investment put in.

Not quite so simple!

Nothing ventured, nothing gained! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-26 07:32:31
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 26 2009, 07:16 AM) [snapback]662388[/snapback]
Well that clears that up then. blink.gif

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mortonjag 2009-10-26 07:34:23
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 26 2009, 05:55 AM) [snapback]662376[/snapback]
Gidday leyTON,

Last time I checked, Columbia is a long way from Australia.

Bawheid would be proud of the boy! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-26 07:36:42
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 26 2009, 07:33 AM) [snapback]662392[/snapback]
Interesting. Due to my boycott of Cappielow this season I've been going to watch East Kilbride Thistle and I've been really enjoying the games. I won the 50-50 at my first game, something I hadn't done in a zillion years at Cappielow.
Anyway, before I arrived at the first game I attended this season I was thinking about the gap in standard between the seniors and juniors and how big was it? Well, it's not a gap, it's a chasm. I enjoy the juniors because it's good honest football with very little cheating and hardly any feigning of injury but in terms of ability it's night and day. The boy McClung that JM had on trial is one of Thistle 'star' players and within 2 minutes you could see why he didn't make it.

[codebox]I'm a stingy c*nt who won't shell out to support 'my team'![/codebox]
mortonjag 2009-10-26 07:57:55
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 26 2009, 07:40 AM) [snapback]662396[/snapback]
That's an excellent post.

It is a fair summation of the main thrust of BNP policy.

What came out clearly on that programme was that a large number of recent BNP 'voters' are not racist, and that they HAVE despaired of the mainstream parties.

The nature of this 'protest' vote was highlighted by the Moslem Baroness who exhorted folk to go into their communities and see why there's unrest. Unrest from Brits of all ethnic origins remember!

That the BNP are jobbies is not in question.

Machiavellian voting is not illegal! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-26 09:15:58
QUOTE(Boscuit @ Oct 26 2009, 08:10 AM) [snapback]662399[/snapback]
Oh no! Time to reassess. My views seem to be aligned with Mortonjag. Where did I go wrong??

Perhaps you put your brain in gear before spouting!

Stick with the Jag dear - you'll go far! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-26 09:18:22
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Oct 26 2009, 08:52 AM) [snapback]662406[/snapback]
I'm not so sure that a new manager could have done much better on Saturday given our injury problems. Grady basically had thirteen recognised first team players to choose from and made the best of what he had. Once again we did not get the rub of the green. The first goal was about the only time the whole match that we did not defend the wide areas properly and it cost us. The other two goals we got caught on the break when chasing and looking like getting something from the game.

Our problem is that we don't score when we are on top for whatever reason - strikers or the service to them.

After Saturday the available pool of players is 12 unless Grady gets a shirt on again or maybe MacFarlane is fit. What is a new manager going to do with that?

Having said all that, if we can afford a new man, I would go for it. Grady and McManus have improved the the performances but we have no evidence that they have the contacts/eye for a player to improve the squad when the time comes. Moore at least has a decent track record in finding players and securing decent loan signings. He has also taken Stirling Albion as high as that club is ever likely to be. He can't do any more than he has already done there and nor could anyone else.

That's the big IF!

Rae could of course spend some of his own money for a change! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-26 10:04:24
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Oct 24 2009, 12:25 PM) [snapback]661605[/snapback]
Don't know about the dings in them, but to sharpen any good knife, do the following .....

Let the window in your car down about half way. Take the blades you need sharpened and run them back and forward across the top edge of the window at a slight angle. Four or five passes is more than enough. Your knives will be back to pristine condition. I have a stone and I also have an electric sharpener - neither give me the finish the car window trick does. Don't ask me how - its something to do with the toughened glass, but it works a treat.

TonInDublin

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mortonjag 2009-10-26 11:51:08
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Oct 26 2009, 11:27 AM) [snapback]662431[/snapback]
I'm sure many of you have thought about this but can we afford this sort of outlay.

There's some assumptions below which I'm sure no-one will be shy in correcting me on.

Moore's Current income:
Stirling Albion Salary - £10K
Lecturer Salary - £30K
Moore's cost If we appointed him:-

Salary - £50K
Stirling Albion Compo - £10K
Re-Location - £7.5K
Win Bonuses - No Idea
Promotion Bonus - No idea
Points / Place Bonus - No idea
No one in their right mind would give up £40K a year of income for less money.
So the £50K is realistic as he'll then be paying Super Tax so he wopuldn't / shouldn't move for a £5K uplift as effectively that would only be £3K extra in his pocket.

On top of that he'll want an assistant.
Anyone else think Moore may just be out of our price range ??

The Golden Casket has hidden dephths! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-26 12:23:56
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Oct 26 2009, 11:53 AM) [snapback]662436[/snapback]
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QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 26 2009, 12:18 PM) [snapback]662447[/snapback]
laugh.gif I bet you're still kicking yourself for that one!!

It's almost Hallowe'en, Mr Pooter - has someone put a bad spell on you?? tongue.gif

The Monkey has much to answer for, Percy! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-26 12:26:03
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Oct 26 2009, 11:54 AM) [snapback]662438[/snapback]
We may all be in for a bit of a surprise. I think Moore may turn out to be one of the best managers we have had. Given he gets the support of the fans and the chance to do things his way then we may be in for the most exciting period we have had in a long time.


Thanks for that Shoogly! rolleyes.gif
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 26 2009, 12:22 PM) [snapback]662448[/snapback]
blah blah blah zzzzzzzzz

Percy is correct, SPARROT! bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-26 12:27:22
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 26 2009, 11:58 AM) [snapback]662441[/snapback]
That doesn't make them even remotely capale of First division football. In the same way that players like Robert Downs were incapable of First Division football, and so ****ed off back to their comfort zone.

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mortonjag 2009-10-26 12:28:43
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 26 2009, 12:03 PM) [snapback]662444[/snapback]
Up your arse, perhaps.

Your jealousy knows no bounds SPARROT! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-26 13:35:49
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Oct 26 2009, 01:19 PM) [snapback]662465[/snapback]
Ohh go then rolleyes.gif

Give me more accurate ones ??

He doesn't smoke Willy Man! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-26 13:39:14
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Oct 26 2009, 01:15 PM) [snapback]662463[/snapback]
Why would someone want to pick their own arse with a fork?

Anyway, I don't like Allan Moore (hangover from his wee rat face constantly gurning as he whined at refs anytime he played us) but I reckon it'd be the best appointment we could hope for.

Because he lost the pliers?
mortonjag 2009-10-26 14:36:23
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Oct 26 2009, 02:21 PM) [snapback]662477[/snapback]
Why are Moore's wages anyone's business, and how should VT know?

Are you suggesting he doesn't? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-26 14:53:17
QUOTE(RSC @ Oct 26 2009, 02:44 PM) [snapback]662480[/snapback]
After showing your nice desktop photo to the world now's the time to be honest and show all of us just what a tip or tidy place you sit at when on the computer.
Here's mine - I turned my garage into an office, work from here, use the computer in here and generally piss about in here too.
Benefits: Only 5 steps to get to work - peace and quiet.
Drawbacks: Only 5 steps from the wife when she wants something!

[center][/center]Show us what yours is like.

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mortonjag 2009-10-26 14:56:24
QUOTE(EBu @ Oct 26 2009, 02:54 PM) [snapback]662487[/snapback]
Hmmm, a cellar with a window... Interesting. wink.gif

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The cellar is downstairs dear - would you like a guided tour of my apartment? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-26 14:59:12
QUOTE(Rampage Nu Sport @ Oct 26 2009, 02:56 PM) [snapback]662489[/snapback]
I don't think anyome was suggesting they are - except that GMFC has to run on a sustainable business model (see the interesting article on the BBC website in which Lloyds babk describe Rangers' model as unsustainable). So whatever the manager gets paid has to be realistic - along with all his other costs (eg an assistant). And this is against a background where we are still effectively paying for Irons and Collins all this season, and before taking account of the recession, etc.

So the question being posed (just as I asked some time ago) - can we afford a new manager? And even if we can, will that mean no budget for new/additional players? In which case if new manager = no new players, is there any point spending on a new manager right now?

Alternatively if the board goes for new manager AND new players - are we living beyond our means? And is this sensible?

We'd all like a side playing great football - but can we actually afford it? And are we (the supporters) prepared to pay for it? If not - then we have to set out sights more realistically.

Or to put it differently, how deep is Shoogly prepared to dig to save face? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-26 15:05:30
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 26 2009, 03:04 PM) [snapback]662494[/snapback]
Yer windaes are dirty laugh.gif

If she reads this you're dead meat Spurtle! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-26 15:21:41
QUOTE(gmfc_stinny_gmfc @ Oct 26 2009, 03:06 PM) [snapback]662496[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-10-26 15:22:39
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 26 2009, 03:14 PM) [snapback]662498[/snapback]
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The Monkey's a terrible clype too! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-26 16:51:34
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Oct 26 2009, 04:29 PM) [snapback]662508[/snapback]
I don't see why it should. For a start, we're not going to achieve anything other than staying up this year, I think that much is clear so far. A new manager who can get the best out of his players will do achieve that, and comfortably so with a couple of intelligent loan signings. He will also have time to evaluate his squad and decide who he wants to keep, and with the majority of the squad being out of contract come the summer, he has the opportunity to make moves with regards to pre-contracts to replace the players who leave at the end of the season. We have the opportunity to get rid of people on excessive wages, and the chance to get rid of the deadwood like Harding, Grady and McManus.

Sensible use of limited resources means getting a competent manager who can make the best of what he has, it doesn't mean letting some dud like Grady spend money on players. Having the right manager is far more important than having a bundle of players - look at the Dundee squad, and the money invested in it, in comparison to everyone elses, yet are struggling. Well, struggling in that they have so far failed to stamp their authority over the league in any significant way. On a grander scale, there are teams like Atletico Madrid with an abundance of quality players yet are making a right arse of it because until now they haven't had a decent manager. No good having players unless there is someone who can mould them in to a good team.

Eeny's agenda exposed! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-26 17:00:14
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Oct 26 2009, 04:55 PM) [snapback]662517[/snapback]
My "agenda" is for Morton to finally appoint a competent manager who can begin to make some sort of progress.
Grady isn't it, and it wouldn't take Miss Marple to "expose" that.

He is a caretaker Manager, who has done considerably better than Sheep Lips did. Why do you describe this nice man as a 'Dud'? I hope he hasn't been shagging your Missus! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-26 19:39:43
QUOTE(EBu @ Oct 26 2009, 03:03 PM) [snapback]662493[/snapback]
I couldn't possibly impose, plus shirley that cellar is getting a bit ripe by now. smile.gif
I'll try and get a photo up of my desk later on.

" A clean desk is the sign of a sick mind"

I assure you it will be no imposition. All my guests are free to choose their final resting place from the extensive menu, and large selection of fine poisons wines. wub.gif

mortonjag 2009-10-26 19:52:48
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 26 2009, 06:33 PM) [snapback]662538[/snapback]
If Moore and an assistant come to Cappielow this season we will have spent in the region of £150k-£200k on coaches this season alone.
This will undoubtably have an impact on our squad next season. Remember loan deals cost money too.

Our so called better players could move on to other clubs because we will will no longer to be able to match their wage demands.

Bosman deals could also be affected in terms of what calibre of player we can afford.

Maybe Shoogly has a private stash in the chanty under his bed! laugh.gif

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 26 2009, 06:48 PM) [snapback]662543[/snapback]
Not necessarily. The reality is that we need to choose the best perceived candidate in terms of ability, or we'll be paying another compensation package or two in 18 months time. Football clubs don't run on a Year Zero basis where the past decisions don't impact later on.


Will you PLEASE stop murdering my native language? I can't believe that some jumped up brat from an Inverclyde scheme can possibly speak as you do. Are you a f*cking robot or something?!!! mad.gif ph34r.gif dry.gif


mortonjag 2009-10-26 20:07:29
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 26 2009, 07:55 PM) [snapback]662552[/snapback]
If a cluttered desk signifies a cluttered mind, what does an EMPTY desk signify? rolleyes.gif

An impending hump?
mortonjag 2009-10-26 20:34:26
QUOTE(The Hustler @ Oct 26 2009, 08:27 PM) [snapback]662559[/snapback]
I am unsure where all the concern about money comes from and even more unsure as to the point of this concern. We desperately need a good manager and your only concern should be who to to appoint. Dougie looks after the money side of things so leave that to him.
I detested Irons but dont think that an inexperienced duo who have gleaned 6 points out of 15 and lost the last 3 means they have done considerably better......MJ. Of course there was a wee reaction when a new boss arrives plus that bit extra effort but there's been precious little else. Quite frankly I aint interested in the current players opinion on matters as most of them should be getting punted in the very near future due to a chronic lack of ability. A number of them also look seriously out of condition...McManus, MacFarlane and Jenkins for starters. As for the 2 hours a day is "too much" training.....dont get me started.
Personally I would appoint Moore as he seems to have a number of qualities that we require.....he's relatively experienced, knows the division, knows our players very well, can operate within a very tight budget yet be successful and play good football, has used the 'loan' market to great effect, he's ambitious and is desperate to get into full time management.
Hopefully it works this time as the last thing we need is another managerial failure.....

I have suggested Moore several times in the past - from way back during JM's tenure. I may add that the suggestion was roundly 'rubbished'. Of course he's a good manager, and I'd like to see him at Cappielow.

If Rae can't/won't afford the completion of the ground improvements, and insists on putting LEAFY out to grass to save pennies, and if we are not planning on promotion this season laugh.gif, and IF there are two million applicants for the post, I just don't see the desperate rush to empty that chanty! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-26 20:38:41
QUOTE(axeman @ Oct 26 2009, 08:32 PM) [snapback]662560[/snapback]
Mr Donald on his holidays is he ?

http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/sport/m...sion-next-week/

Perhaps a wee trip to the Swiss Bank account ????

MORTON are not to make a decision on who will be appointed as manager of the club in succession to Davie Irons until Wednesday at the earliest.
Chairman Douglas Rae told the Telegraph that the decision would be made after a board member returns from holiday.
FOR FULL STORY, SEE TODAY'S TELE ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif

Maybe Stuart's away at some International Convention of wannabe football chairmen! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-26 20:40:11
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 26 2009, 08:17 PM) [snapback]662558[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-10-26 20:43:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 26 2009, 08:40 PM) [snapback]662565[/snapback]
Gidday Tonsilitis,

Here's another example:

The trial of a man accused of stabbing a pregnant Egyptian woman to death in a German courtroom opened on Monday in the same venue amid heightened security.

The alleged attacker, 29-year-old Alexander W, arrived at court with his face concealed beneath a hood, sunglasses and a mask. Only after several urgings by the judge did he remove the mask and hood, but he was fined for contempt of court for keeping the sunglasses on.

The man faces charges of murder, attempted murder and dangerous bodily harm for the July slaying of 31-year-old Marwa al-Sherbini.

Outraged Muslims have dubbed al-Sherbini "the headscarf martyr" and lambasted it as evidence of Islamophobia in Europe.
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world...91027-hgzg.html

....several burqua clad witnesses may have smiled.
mortonjag 2009-10-26 20:45:57
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 26 2009, 08:43 PM) [snapback]662567[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-10-26 20:52:43
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 26 2009, 08:45 PM) [snapback]662569[/snapback]
Forza pondered why anyone in their right mind would ever switch from a mainstream party, such as Labour to that of the BNP.

The BNP are fandans and I also wondered why anyone would vote for them but there is another side to this that most of us do not see or even comprehend.

I was brought up to take people for what they are, not the colour of their skin (my own cousins are of mixed race), and have no issues with anyone from a different ethnic background than myself. (Arseholes come in all colours after all) but after having spent some time down in West Yorkshire (I regard them as some of the nicest people I have ever met) there is no doubt there is an underlying current of racism in that area of the country. Now why would that be, is it because they are all Neanderthals? Is it because they hate other races? Is it because they feel indignation toward foreigners? The answer to all three is no, the main reason that seemingly good minded and kind people turn to clowns like Griffin is simply because they feel threatened on their own back yard. The Asian and to be more accurate the Muslim population of many towns in West Yorkshire simply don't want to integrate, don't want to associate with those not of the same thought and regard UK laws and culture as folly. I had to see this for my own eyes to believe it as generally up here we have little problems with those of a different background. These people are no different to the BNP, they are also racists. (Aye I know some of you have frequented West Yorkshire and haven't seen this but I have seen it with my own eyes and that’s enough for me so save me the retort please). Yes there are plenty of scum on the other side of the widening divide but thats not the point I am trying to get across, this is the sutuation where 'ordinary' folk end up crossing parties like the BNP's box in the ballot paper.

This is down to one thing in my eyes, mass immigration with no thought of how to manage it, what if any benefit it brings and with complete disregard for the local populations (Black, Brown and White).
The more mainstream parties ignore the immigration issue the more ordinary people will vote for a party like the BNP, the wider the divide comes and the day of civil disorder between races in the UK will come nearer.

Integration is not only needed it is a necessity, and if it doesn't come the BNP will just keep on growing despite how badly their leader is on a TV show. But I don't believe that integration will ever come as there are people and parties (mainstream) on both sides who never want to see it despite what they bluster.

It was interesting to see a baying crowd savage Griffin and exposing what we all already knew. What was sadly missing was politicians ripping up their politics for arse paper, it was a baying crowd and I tell you this, more, not less will most likely vote BNP because of it. Anti fascists were backslapping themselves silly after the debate, what they did not comprehend is that in living rooms the length and breadth of England (yes England, right wing politics will never be an issue up here) folk were probably seething at what went on (sad but true). They will have taken the view that these foreigners (in their eyes) where again dictating the agenda, ultimately playing into Griffins hand by allowing him to say "Look, I told you so".

Griffin is a bigot and a racist, but he is an even worse politician and the opportunity to bury his party stone cold was passed by.

They need to stop shouting and debate, he will never be able to compete in debate, the only one from the show the other night was the Tory lass from Dewsbury (sorry forgot her name) who decided to talk politics to undermine Griffin and co and imo done a damn fine job making the BNP policies look like what they are, scribbles on s*** paper. If only the other panelists had even half an inkling they may just have buried Griffin. For good.



The Muslim lady who called it right Barbie. Go into the communities and see for yourselves she exhorted. We British are ALL pissed off with having become a rubbish dump-no matter our colour or background.

Mr Straw didn't even attempt to deny it! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-26 20:57:59
QUOTE(The Hustler @ Oct 26 2009, 08:49 PM) [snapback]662571[/snapback]
I think the 'rush' is the fact that we are in a three way relegation battle with a very poor group of players a number of whom are crocked. Therefore we need someone to organise, motivate but most importantly bring in some signings be it loans or otherwise in January.
As for your love affair with Leafy I think it is very sweet. The reality is, however, that he had numerous opportunities and didnt cut it. He is no worse or better than Wake, Graham or Grady. He has yet to score for Alloa. Another transfer market disaster along with Bambi...£40k....unbelievable. Brechin must have seen us coming.......

The squad is threadbare. LEAFY would undoubtedly add much needed width to the attack!

Brechin, of course, may well have seen SHOOGLY coming!!! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 26 2009, 08:49 PM) [snapback]662572[/snapback]
do you think ad is involved?


I haven't seen the full Tilly report. Is God awaiting Uncle Donald. If so I'd not be surprised if he's going to bleat for another bung and then take all the credit again! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-26 21:02:10
QUOTE(leyTON @ Oct 26 2009, 08:55 PM) [snapback]662577[/snapback]
im confuse as to what you mean by muslim populations "intergragtion". integration with what? surely all reilgions shouldnt be integrated. perhaps the greatest victory of the bnp is that right thinking people siuch as yourself think of a muslim as a "type£ of person rather than a unique individual, one of a billion throughout the world

A Muslim, like a Jew, or a practising Christian is brainwashed to a greater or lesser degree.

Brown folk, white folk, black folk - they are unique individuals!
mortonjag 2009-10-26 21:03:46
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 26 2009, 09:00 PM) [snapback]662580[/snapback]
doubt he is involved,this years accounts should show if there has been any investment by him....

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mortonjag 2009-10-26 21:07:00
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 26 2009, 09:01 PM) [snapback]662581[/snapback]
I just saw a replay of Celtic v Hamburg.

Why were there so many MT seats ?

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voila
mortonjag 2009-10-26 21:08:05
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 26 2009, 09:05 PM) [snapback]662584[/snapback]
do you doubt the truthful ness of the accounts rolleyes.gif

YIP! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-26 21:10:45
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 26 2009, 09:08 PM) [snapback]662587[/snapback]
Why not ?

It works here.

The Presbyterians, Methodists and Congregationalists integrated to form the Uniting Church of Australia.

And they haven't looked black since.

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mortonjag 2009-10-26 21:18:17
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 26 2009, 09:09 PM) [snapback]662590[/snapback]
This is where I'll step in;

The problem is a lot of ethnic groups tend to stay in their own wee group. I don't know if this is because they simply don't want to integrate or feel pressured in to not becoming part of the wider community.

I noticed his in uni, our seminar classes were split by alphabetical order, and we had 6 seminar groups. Most people made friends from within this group but the ones of Indian/Pakistan descent always kept themselves to themselves and when outside the seminar classes (where they were split up) they would not make any effort to be part of the larger collective, rather staying in their wee group.

As I said, could argue either way they are choosing to be outside the collective, or feel like they have to be. That I cannot answer, but either way I don't think it helps matters.

The Chinese in Scotland have pretty well kept themselves to themselves in terms of 'wee groups' - Garnethill is the prime example. There is FAR less interbreeding with 'native' Scots and Chinese, than with brown Asians, yet we don't appear to have any social unrest in this country on account of Taoism, or Buddhism! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-26 21:22:19
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 26 2009, 09:12 PM) [snapback]662593[/snapback]
very strong statement, care to back it up rolleyes.gif

Do I have to back up the fact that I doubt anything?

Am I not entitled to doubt if I so choose?

I possess no evidence to suggest that the accounts of GMFC are dishonest.

Equally I possess no evidence to suggest that the accounts of GMFC are honest.

Accountants work in mysterious ways - ask Tonsilitis! smile.gif

I'm left in doubt!

THERE! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-26 21:27:17
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 26 2009, 09:24 PM) [snapback]662606[/snapback]
no idea, doubt its ad as hes not been at a game in ages

Possibly because he's been supping with the gnomes of Zurich! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-26 22:12:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 26 2009, 10:09 PM) [snapback]662624[/snapback]
Has the world gone mad?

Naw - it's just that there may be a lot of one-legged Russian asylum seekers.
Police say a one-legged suspect was caught after only one shoe went missing in a store in Belgium.

An amputee was an immediate suspect when a store attendant found one shoe missing from a shop in the western Belgian town of Maldegem.

Police spokesman Rik Decraemer said on Monday authorities were alerted and quickly found the man who fit the description by shopkeepers. The shoe was also recovered.

The suspect, a Russian asylum seeker, faces possible charges and was handed over to judicial authorities.

AP

Doesn't have a leg to stand on.
mortonjag 2009-10-27 04:58:51
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 26 2009, 10:26 PM) [snapback]662626[/snapback]
Do you have a link ?

Not a sausage Spurtle - the dug even licked the plate dry! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-27 05:04:14
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Oct 26 2009, 11:05 PM) [snapback]662631[/snapback]
This is my desktop. The reason for the pic is that I am in it, along with the legend that is Brian May (from the Queen + Paul Rodgers gig at the SECC last year) blush.gif

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G'on yersel' son! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-27 05:21:52
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 27 2009, 12:06 AM) [snapback]662635[/snapback]
I can't believe one person could be quite as tedious as yourself, but here we are.

To whom are you alluding SPARROT? I welcome competition! laugh.gif

Your use of English is atrocious. You claimed that you 'performed well' at school. If that was so, I despair of our educational system.

Gone are the days when a 'Higher English' was a prerequisite for proper further education, and more's the pity. dry.gif

I'd rather have a smile at ten of Puggs's honest assasinations of our language, than retch through one passage of your pretentious pish. [attachment=5913:1718_1_.gif]
mortonjag 2009-10-27 05:31:39
QUOTE(kingtiffin @ Oct 27 2009, 03:27 AM) [snapback]662640[/snapback]
not a prediction fact

jim duffy

will not be happy chappy now its out mr rae laugh.gif

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The plot thickens! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-27 05:38:07 A prophet in his own land!

The H U N S must love him for this!!!

“Even if I had the money I wouldn’t buy Rangers just now. Would you?†he asks. “If anything, I would rather buy Celtic now because they are run more prudently by good, strong people. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-27 05:55:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 26 2009, 09:21 PM) [snapback]662603[/snapback]
The Europa League match will be staged in a more passionate atmosphere, though it will interesting to see how many fans turn up. An autumnal European match at Parkhead was once a sell-out. Not now. One aspect has not changed, however. “It has to be a must-win,†said Wilson of the forthcoming match. For Celtic, they always are but there is an added importance to this one. Celtic, simply, must give their fans something to cheer about.

Well, MJ, it looks like they failed on 4 out of 4.

passion ?

sell out ?

must win ?

something to cheer about ?

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Scottish football appears to be in a sorry state from bottom to 'top'! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-27 06:11:59
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 27 2009, 06:03 AM) [snapback]662647[/snapback]
Ultimately this will have to happen again...

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mortonjag 2009-10-27 08:03:17
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Oct 27 2009, 06:21 AM) [snapback]662649[/snapback]
Is jim the new manager? has he been turned down but journalists
etc were informed before himself. Hmmm blink.gif

I'm sure he'd be cheaper than Moore! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-27 08:06:25
QUOTE(mmm beer @ Oct 26 2009, 11:17 PM) [snapback]662632[/snapback]
I remember this game but was sure it was before 1995. Didn't he just play a few games before leaving for America?

His last senior season was 94-95 with Queens.
mortonjag 2009-10-27 09:34:59
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Oct 27 2009, 09:13 AM) [snapback]662659[/snapback]
if they want to stick with people they have something in common with.. they shouldnt come to this country then... **** of all immigrants, theres no room left at the inn..... the oinly thing stopping most people from talking out and saying what they really feel about all the immigrants in this country is.. pc brigade pressure.. pressure to NOT be seen as a racist... soon as people get over that, then the voices against the immigration policies of this country will be heard loudly,

Do you oppose immigration in all forms?
mortonjag 2009-10-27 12:00:25 [quote name='vikingTON' date='Oct 27 2009, 11:29 AM' post='662676']
Oh dear. You must feel like a right thick t*** now.

No I must not. Less of the instructions bratman! [attachment=5915:nono.gif]

mortonjag 2009-10-27 12:08:39
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Oct 27 2009, 10:47 AM) [snapback]662671[/snapback]
no mj i certainly do not, I really dont have a problem with people emigrating to this country IF we had the same sort of rules as say Canada or australia,, were you need to BRING something of value to the country you plan to live in.... were letting in all sorts of crooks and criminals, as well as people with no trades or skills THAT WE NEED.. we have teachers,nurses and all manner of experianced proffesionals on the dole, as well as a lot of highly educated students with degrees (yes the govt pushed the education.. for what, so they can be the most educated non workers in europe !)
WE DONT NEED IMMIGRANTS TO WORK HERE.. WEVE ENOUGH PEOPLE ON THE DOLE.... we also DONT NEED IMMIGRANTS LIVING OF OUR WELFARE STATE... weve enough people on the dole... does anyone get it ? WE HAVE NO WORK. so why are they here.

I agree with most of that.

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 27 2009, 11:32 AM) [snapback]662677[/snapback]
YOU ARE AN IMBECILE... I WANT YOU DEPORTED IMMEDIATELY TO MAKE WAY FOR A SLOVAKIAN DENTIST

More higgorance from Bratman SPARROT!

We don't import dentists - just (sometimes) second rate doctors in their droves.

If you need your orifice checked up, I'm free this evening.
mortonjag 2009-10-27 12:11:26
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 27 2009, 12:03 PM) [snapback]662687[/snapback]
Oh dear, you can't even use quote tags. laugh.gif

Coat tags SPARROT.

I prefer a hanger.
mortonjag 2009-10-27 12:30:21 Depends how you define integration, and its extent. For a society to be at all cohesive, there must be mutual understanding and respect between races and cultures. Those two fundamental requirements have been absent in British society since the advent of immigration.
Let's not forget that immigrants were never welcomed to these islands, they were brought over here as a source of cheap labour to be exploited, to be housed in the poorest conditions, to be generally shunned by the indigenous population as w o g s, c o o n s and p a k i s. They were always seen as second class citizens, as not really British. Little wonder then, that so many have become isolated and insular.
'Multiculturalism' was a well intentioned but wrong headed attempt to redress the situation. It has failed miserably because of its emphasis on the things that divide rather than unite. It poured scorn on the perceived intolerance of some, whilst ignoring, and by its silence encouraging, the blatant racism and sectarianism of others.
Full integration (coffee coloured people of one culture emerging from a melting pot) will never occur I agree, and it would be a thoroughly bad thing if it did. Peaceful co-existence based upon tolerance, respect and good citizenship is the best we can hope for and that I believe is a realistic, achievable goal. The best way to achieve this is by bringing people together in housing, education and employment, by eliminating the ghettos in each, i.e. by ditching the social apartheid of multiculturalism. Let's start celebrating unity rather than diversity, let's put aside the things that divide us while we live, learn and work together, let's keep religion in homes, churches, mosques and synagogues and keep it out of schools, workplaces and government.


To say that immigrants were never welcomed is quite untrue as you very well know. Over the last three generations thousands and thousands of 'foreigners' have happily integrated here, and I refer particularly to those who brought skills with them.

Full integration has already occurred for them and indeed is almost guaranteed for all who are able and willing to give and take.

Ghettos will never disappear, irrespective of the colour of their inhabitants, and there are dozens of those in Central Scotland whose population is predominantly white.

By the same token, a significant proportion of residents in Glasgow's most wealthy and up market areas are now brown and Scottish.

This BNP joke is the direct result of allowing ourselves to become a poorly regulated dumping ground for largely unqualified non English speaking waifs and strays - an expensive and stupid mistake borne out of woolly headed socialist ideology!
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mortonjag 2009-10-27 12:44:15
QUOTE(EBu @ Oct 27 2009, 12:09 PM) [snapback]662690[/snapback]
Anyone else finding this really tedious?

Nope - SPARROT gives me much needed joy in those troubled times. [attachment=5916:fing36_1_.gif]
mortonjag 2009-10-27 12:52:04
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 27 2009, 12:37 PM) [snapback]662705[/snapback]
And we shall nearly always disagree. biggrin.gif Wooly headed socialist ideology didn't bring about mass unregulated immigration, rather it was crass, unfettered, free market capitalism; all in order to exploit a cheap source of labour.

Well you appear to accept that at least.

'Crass, unfettered, free market capitalism' and 'a cheap source of labour'.

Sound bites Mr E, and even if it were true, 'twas sanctioned by 'Europe', and blessed by a government 'for the people'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-27 13:03:37
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 27 2009, 12:59 PM) [snapback]662713[/snapback]
Indeed they did and still do, because they are shabby liars.

I'm glad you agreed with the rest of my post.
mortonjag 2009-10-27 13:05:53
QUOTE(ccc @ Oct 27 2009, 01:01 PM) [snapback]662714[/snapback]
http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.a...455579?UserKey=

Pretty much same as what dirty dingus read in the sun.... sounds like compensation WILL be getting paid, but I for one think it will be worth it. One has to speculate to accumulate (unless you are Warren Buffet) but in this case I think the outlay will prove to be worthwhile.

Maybe Uncle Donald will bail him out again.
mortonjag 2009-10-27 13:11:03
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Oct 27 2009, 01:05 PM) [snapback]662716[/snapback]
Immigration itself is not the problem. It is the "positive discrimination" policy of a doo gooder PC Labour government that has given cause to the white male working class population who feel they have no rights and perceive favouritism by the government towards so called disadvantaged groups - women, ethnic minorities, criminals, gays, etc. Rather than promote people based purely on ability, the Labour government have set an agenda of pushing people into jobs and houses and benefits based purely on ethnicity or gender or sexual orientation or if you've a criminal conviction. If they wish to diminish the BNP support they must stop this policy now starting with Harriet Harman's Equal Rights Bill.

With regards to froeigners taking our jobs, prior to the credit crunch there were a surplus of vacancies despite their still being unemployement. This therefore suggests that there are certain jobs that "indigenous Brittons" just will not touch. If these so called scrounging foreigners are quite happy to do jobs that the workshy consider "beneath them" then more power to them as they help to grow our economy rather than see it stagnate under a lack of productivity due to lack of resource and a dependancy on state handouts.

That is correct.
mortonjag 2009-10-27 13:17:35
QUOTE(leyTON @ Oct 27 2009, 12:02 PM) [snapback]662685[/snapback]
gumtree isnt bad,
depends what you are looking for,
if you just want to work and dont mind menial s***e (like me) then just take a casual stroll about Kelvingrove Park in glasgow, youll have a job in no time

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mortonjag 2009-10-27 13:19:43
QUOTE(ccc @ Oct 27 2009, 01:14 PM) [snapback]662723[/snapback]
Unless AD is waiting to see if he can pick up a bargain when the Ibrox firesale starts.... if this is not the case then you may be right.

Anyway, I would say Donald would be more of a nephew to him. Old DDFR is no spring chicken any more remember.

Would that he realised that! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-27 13:24:07
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Oct 27 2009, 01:19 PM) [snapback]662726[/snapback]
So you agree that it is fair that a hard working, low paid married couple go to get a social rented house only to be told they are not a priority because they are not a single parent / recently released from jail / gay / classed as an ethnic minority / an assylum seeker? These issues are immaterial and with regards to being a recent guest of her majesty should be a disadvantage. Benefits, housing and indeed employment should be given based on need (ability in the case of employment) alone.

He'll be around with the tawse in five minutes! [attachment=5917:shark_2_.gif]
mortonjag 2009-10-27 13:35:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 27 2009, 01:27 PM) [snapback]662729[/snapback]
No I don't, I think the housing laws should be changed: it is clear that they are creating and sustaining ghettos, just like the the benefits system is sustaining poverty, indolence and social division.

Perhaps then the fleeting rise of the BNP could be construed as the best thing that has happened in British Politics in the last two decades!

Nothing else has shaken the scumbags of Westminster and Holyrood as they nestle complacently in their expenses adorned luxury, light years away from reality.
mortonjag 2009-10-27 13:56:51
QUOTE(cmdc @ Oct 27 2009, 01:45 PM) [snapback]662732[/snapback]
Asylum seekers do not get priority in the distribution of social housing, that's a bit of a myth. In fact, their housing is wholly outwith the system through which a 'hard working, low paid married couple' would apply.

Are you sure that gay people get priority?

As for single parents - given the pressures on resources (and the lack of quality social housing is the real problem here) I don't really have a problem with identfying them as worthy of priority attention.

That's what makes them shag?

It's well know that if you 'get yourself pregnant' you 'get a hoose'. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-27 14:06:07 Will Santa Claus deliver as promised? [attachment=5918:dance.gif]
mortonjag 2009-10-27 14:10:47
QUOTE(cmdc @ Oct 27 2009, 01:45 PM) [snapback]662732[/snapback]
Asylum seekers do not get priority in the distribution of social housing, that's a bit of a myth. In fact, their housing is wholly outwith the system through which a 'hard working, low paid married couple' would apply.

Are you sure that gay people get priority?

As for single parents - given the pressures on resources (and the lack of quality social housing is the real problem here) I don't really have a problem with identfying them as worthy of priority attention.

Asylum seekers and immigrants on benefit place an inordinate burden on the NHS. I know that from personal experience.
mortonjag 2009-10-27 14:13:56
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Oct 27 2009, 02:08 PM) [snapback]662740[/snapback]
The luck of the Oirish??? unsure.gif

Today's Telegraph

I thought it was already done and dusted! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-27 14:19:46
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Oct 27 2009, 02:16 PM) [snapback]662749[/snapback]
You just don't know any moore!

...'special consideration will be given to candidates who are willing to be paid in beans' laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-27 14:20:36
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 27 2009, 02:20 PM) [snapback]662752[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-10-27 14:36:05 Has Walter Smith been interviewed yet?
mortonjag 2009-10-27 15:41:48
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 27 2009, 03:17 PM) [snapback]662769[/snapback]
Guy might be our answer but I just love our sense of confusion.
"We've tried to choose someone who has a wide knowledge of the Scottish Football League rather than just giving the fans a big name who doesn't know the players at this level.

"We've had 45 applicants from all over the world but some of the speculation has become a joke.

"I think the only name I've yet to reject is Jose Mourinho and even if we did get him there would be people calling for his head if he lost three games in a row.

"It's safe to say the new man will be from Scotland and have a proven record of working at our level."
DDF Rae

I can't help feeling JM's on the way back! [attachment=5919:taz.gif]
mortonjag 2009-10-27 15:58:00
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 27 2009, 03:53 PM) [snapback]662776[/snapback]
Thats a tad critical from the chairman . I would hardly be criticising the supporters when he's the one responsible for appointing inexperienced coaches .

JG's just lost three in a row. By Rae's own logic the new manager will be


JAMES GRADY [attachment=5920:secret.gif]
mortonjag 2009-10-27 16:00:16
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 27 2009, 03:57 PM) [snapback]662778[/snapback]
Magic beans ?

has beens ??

LESBIANS ???

Jelly beans in all probability! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-27 16:13:35
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 27 2009, 04:07 PM) [snapback]662786[/snapback]
Does this 'new' interview suggest that Allan Moore has knocked back a job offer? I am intrigued by this development. Everyone must admit it's never an easy ride when we go for a boss. rolleyes.gif

But not for THE boss! laugh.gif

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 27 2009, 04:09 PM) [snapback]662789[/snapback]
[/quote name='Barbarossa' date='Oct 27 2009, 04:07 PM' post='662786']
Does this 'new' interview suggest that Allan Moore has knocked back a job offer? I am intrigued by this development. Everyone must admit it's never an easy ride when we go for a boss. rolleyes.gif

Not necessarily. Rumour has it that Duffy was interviewed after Irons was offered the job.

...and also that Duffy was not interviewed at all! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-27 16:19:33 Eeny, meeny, manny, mo,
Catch a bargain, ho ho ho
When he fails, let him go,
Eeny, meeny, manny, mo. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-27 16:21:04
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 27 2009, 04:18 PM) [snapback]662797[/snapback]
blink.gif so, which one ARE you then?? happy.gif

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mortonjag 2009-10-27 16:22:40
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 27 2009, 04:21 PM) [snapback]662800[/snapback]
Yeah, DDFR's insistence on going for someone with proven knowledge of the Scottish league seems to have taken a backseat as far as this interviewee is concerned.

Not that I'm going to discount him either - he could well turn out to be the saviour... ph34r.gif

Jesus!
mortonjag 2009-10-27 16:32:37
QUOTE(leyTON @ Oct 27 2009, 04:26 PM) [snapback]662802[/snapback]
why does mj continue to mention the rise of the BNP
a 1% increase in the share of the vote, enough to give them 2 MEPs
due to regional voting the Greens vote, (despite not gaining any extra meps) went up something like 3% (double the bnp increase) but we arent all discussing whether we are more or less environmentally aware as a society
youv made claims about 10 pages ago without figures jag, admit it and we can all get on with our lives

Admit WHAT?

Every time I've mentioned the BNP I've described the situation as ephemeral. I've correctly identified the resaon for the current INTEREST in the BNP. I've even suggested that it may be no bad thing in terms of a boot up the arses of the invested complacency at Holyrood and Westminster.

What exactly is your point son? I don't want to stop you from 'getting on with your life'. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-27 16:36:16
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 27 2009, 04:33 PM) [snapback]662808[/snapback]
Only one, if any at all, can have that. The rest must have imposters. biggrin.gif

I wonder how many Inverclyde homes have mantelpieces?
mortonjag 2009-10-27 16:38:45
QUOTE(leyTON @ Oct 27 2009, 04:35 PM) [snapback]662811[/snapback]
you talked of the rise of the BNP
there is no such rise

There most certainly has been a rise in interest my dear-perhaps you were watching Noddy in the bedroom. wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-27 16:40:46
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Oct 27 2009, 04:36 PM) [snapback]662813[/snapback]
On the question of immigrants and asylum seekers. The irish in their thousands have came to this country and were targeted for discrimintaion and abuse and still are today however they have also flourished and been welcome in loads of areas of our society as well by overcoming obstacles as well as MORE importantly trying to make the country they live in a better more harmonious place.
The wee dublin end was named after the irish families so they must have congregated in areas of their own people and irish people in 70's and 80's were castigated by the national front and other racist organistations specifically . This just seems to be the similar situation now where it is fear of the unknown and lack of knowledge that spreads mistrust and this creates anger and fanaticism on both sides who will use violence to support their extreme views. Are the asian muslims the new irish ? Look how far we have come from those dark days of the 70s and even before hand. Don't think that trying to be a good understanding neighbour doesn't work . Try and be a bit more understanding and positive about people and i reckon it will make Britain a better place to live.

Bombay potato springs to mind.
mortonjag 2009-10-27 16:42:16
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 27 2009, 04:39 PM) [snapback]662818[/snapback]
I have one, and I'm happy to report that there is nobody nailed to it. Yet.

I take it you also have a poker.
mortonjag 2009-10-27 16:46:23
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 27 2009, 04:44 PM) [snapback]662824[/snapback]
Doesn't he play for Barcelona?

Alongside Jalfrezi?
mortonjag 2009-10-27 16:51:06
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 27 2009, 04:49 PM) [snapback]662826[/snapback]
laugh.gif No, but some might say I could do with one.

Toasting fork? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-27 21:23:04
QUOTE(binnie @ Oct 27 2009, 06:08 PM) [snapback]662861[/snapback]
i'm sure you would be cheaper than moore laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2009-10-27 21:31:00
QUOTE(Toby @ Oct 27 2009, 08:17 PM) [snapback]662889[/snapback]
Andy Bryan or Tony Cowden might at the next away game though rolleyes.gif .

Have you seen their helmets? [attachment=5922:fing36_1_.gif]
mortonjag 2009-10-27 21:36:29
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 27 2009, 05:04 PM) [snapback]662834[/snapback]
Was a surge the other day huh.gif

Boasting again PD? laugh.gif

QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Oct 27 2009, 08:30 PM) [snapback]662893[/snapback]
thanks, thanats awfy kind. Dak's looking forward ever so much to seeing her maw n faither especially and her bro and sisters, and grandmaw. i wish her well for that.

Sellfishly i'm looking forward to flying to Phuket and koh Phi Phi and Samui; oh and beer Laos the best beer in the world bar none; shhhhh its a secret.

Mile high club? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-27 21:37:58
QUOTE(princessTON @ Oct 27 2009, 09:24 PM) [snapback]662906[/snapback]
i now think it will be the irish guy

Have you been talking with Shoogly? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-27 21:47:39 [attachment=5923:1720_1_.gif]
mortonjag 2009-10-27 22:09:09
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 27 2009, 09:57 PM) [snapback]662913[/snapback]
You were high?

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mortonjag 2009-10-27 22:32:25
QUOTE(NornIronTon @ Oct 27 2009, 10:23 PM) [snapback]662917[/snapback]
I have actually seen Dundalk play this year. Saw them play Ards my team over here in pre season. For a start Dundalk play more football than I have seen Morton play in a number of YEARS.

Correct they may not be star studded but there left back would look like Pele in our team. He likes his team to keep possession, plays 4-4-2 and 30-40 yard punts in hope up the park by players who seem to have forgotten to play balls simply would be a thing of the past. Dundalk play on a 3G pitch anyway and its not the type of pitch that hopeful balls would be any use on anyway. Hopefully that style of football would be something he would continue to do IF he got the job.

I have to say I was very impressed with Dundalk and also seen them in a live game on RTE as well as MNS where he does talk a good game incidentally. There are probably more players down south capable of playing in the first division than there are in the north for sure. IF he got the job you would very likely see an influx of players on loan from that league as it is their close season pretty soon.

I think it would certainly put the cat amongst the pigeons if he did get the job. IMO however I feel it was more of a courteous flesh pressing exercise from MR Rae rather than a real opportunity of actually offering him the job.

Only time will tell however.

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mortonjag 2009-10-27 22:58:12
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 27 2009, 10:50 PM) [snapback]662923[/snapback]
....but I've learned how to finally add different smilies to the board and am desperate to try and show off to the younger ones even though it took me a long time to work out how to use the code box?

smile.gif

[codebox]Jaggy, may I visit your cellar again soon?[/codebox]

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mortonjag 2009-10-27 22:59:18
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 27 2009, 10:53 PM) [snapback]662924[/snapback]
Did it say one in the article? As Binnie said two huh.gif

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mortonjag 2009-10-28 05:50:32
QUOTE(port-ton @ Oct 27 2009, 11:41 PM) [snapback]662933[/snapback]
You were getting a blowjob off a pumpkin while playing your guitar?

Do you type with your toes? [attachment=5926:1718_1_.gif]
mortonjag 2009-10-28 05:56:18
QUOTE(Sanny @ Oct 28 2009, 12:28 AM) [snapback]662940[/snapback]
Im sure you would love that but your Unionist friends in the Orange Order would not laugh.gif

What side are you on Tory Tom? You have to be the most mixed up person I have ever come across.

No wonder our schools are failing the children with someone like you as a teacher.

You post on here and make a fool of yourself constantly you are a complete embarrassment.

This 'sentence' may be evidence of the havoc wreaked on our educational system by M.Bam! [attachment=5927:hit.gif]
mortonjag 2009-10-28 06:00:21
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 28 2009, 01:10 AM) [snapback]662944[/snapback]
Why can Mortonjag not admit his factual inaccuracy and move on?

[codebox]I'm trying SO hard-will he NEVER invite me into his cellar? [/codebox] [attachment=5928:doh.gif]
mortonjag 2009-10-28 06:02:39
QUOTE(leyTON @ Oct 28 2009, 01:44 AM) [snapback]662948[/snapback]
Dont want to be accused of parroting any party lines, just a bit of info!
The National Conversation is coming to Port Glasgow town hall on november 16th with kenny macaskill and rosenna cunnighame.
debate it among yerselfs

Fraid I'll be in London dear! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-28 06:05:43
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 28 2009, 01:12 AM) [snapback]662946[/snapback]
I'm disappointed you haven't yet added to this monumnetal fail. Must be a real long shift you're working.

Did you choke on your rusk there, SPARROT?
mortonjag 2009-10-28 06:10:39
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 28 2009, 01:00 AM) [snapback]662943[/snapback]
****, did I miss Gibsey's hotline to the Tele? It bears almost as much authority as a papal edict.

Hope his next instructs you to w**k yourself to death then. [attachment=5931:1718_1_.gif]
mortonjag 2009-10-28 06:17:56 Ouch!
mortonjag 2009-10-28 09:27:35
QUOTE(wanderton @ Oct 28 2009, 08:56 AM) [snapback]662979[/snapback]
AD has rode off in the sunset and wont be seen again.

Source? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-28 09:30:51
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Oct 28 2009, 08:34 AM) [snapback]662972[/snapback]
It's a National Conversation MJ, not Dougie's Question And Answers Session, no need to kid on you're leaving the country this time. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif laugh.gif

TonInDublin

There is a difference? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-28 09:32:29
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Oct 28 2009, 08:50 AM) [snapback]662977[/snapback]
errr, hate to piss on the parade and all that but ........ a lot of violent attacks and indeed a lot of thefts and minor assaults are committed by people who have alcohol or drugs dependency problems ..... so making their access to their drug of choice harder (in this case alcohol) without addressing the root cause problems of the dependencies is a bit like farting into thunder - in the absence of giving them treatment for their addiction, social recourse to give them more options or more money to buy the shagging stuff you will see crime rise rather than fall. (obviously the last choice of giving them more money was firmly tongue in cheek)

A further, inevitable implication of making alcohol more expensive is that trading on the grey market increases (for example in Ireland it is estimated that one in every four cigarettes sold have been smuggled into the country duty free) so expect to see a lot more dodgy booze flooding the streets and a lot more well suited and booted "entrepreneurs" capitalising further on the misery of others.

This was a short sighted, at best, policy - popular because of its rhetoric and minimal on well thought out implementation.

By the way, I am not against the policy because it is the SNP's, or because it raises the price of alcohol. But you have to think through all of the options on these things, not jump in to things without thinking through all of the intended/unintended consequences of your actions.
Most importantly - this policy does NOTHING to address the real root cause problem we're facing.

Just my input.

TonInDublin

Anybody with a shimmering of a clue about addiction knows that!
mortonjag 2009-10-28 10:40:48
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 28 2009, 10:34 AM) [snapback]662995[/snapback]
Sorry - no parking your obsession here.
Use another thread please.

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mortonjag 2009-10-28 13:06:44
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Oct 28 2009, 11:07 AM) [snapback]663003[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif Your sooooo uninformed. More like Dougie bailing out AD.

Really Measles, has Uncle Donald gone bust? Has he raided the Golden Casket? Has he plundered that chanty pot under Shoogly's four poster? Has he been half inching Millions?
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mortonjag 2009-10-28 13:14:07
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 28 2009, 12:44 PM) [snapback]663021[/snapback]
Would you rather I wore a skirt to work? blush.gif
All politicians, left, right and centre are professional liars. Why would I waste my time going to listen to them lying to my face rather than reading about their lies from the comfort of my favourite chair?
It would aso mean an unnecessary journey to Inverclyde.

Indeed, Peter!
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mortonjag 2009-10-28 13:16:17
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Oct 28 2009, 12:58 PM) [snapback]663025[/snapback]
That is feckin disgraceful. But i laughed. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

It was pure mince.

A pun o' the stuff.
mortonjag 2009-10-28 13:20:18
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Oct 28 2009, 01:11 PM) [snapback]663028[/snapback]
i take it she has as it was working last week when i was down visiting. Will let her know anyway to check that. cheers

If she's running windows she can use that to repair the connection. It resets the values. At worst she may have to reconfigure the router.
mortonjag 2009-10-28 14:22:57
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Oct 28 2009, 01:57 PM) [snapback]663041[/snapback]
Rumour is that Uncle Donald has raided his Golden Casket a few times, perhaps once too often!!! Like Old Mother Hubbard the cupboard is bare.

Rumour is that Measles is a trouble maker! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-28 14:25:56
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Oct 28 2009, 01:25 PM) [snapback]663034[/snapback]
What, every single one of them, without exception? Even for you Mr Cynical that's quite a sweeping statement. smile.gif

I absolutely agree that a lot of them do match that desciption - in fact probably the large majority of them do - but I still believe that there are some politicians in Holyrood who are honest and fundamentally decent people.

Auntie Annabel?
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mortonjag 2009-10-28 15:58:43
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Oct 28 2009, 03:32 PM) [snapback]663060[/snapback]
Ach, maybe one day you really will be in the know and not in that pretend world you inhabit where you think your in the know but keep getting it all wrong. rolleyes.gif woof woof

ph34r.gif

It just depends on whom you choose to believe, Measles.

Do you dispute that? wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-28 19:12:11
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 28 2009, 06:39 PM) [snapback]663105[/snapback]
Right now, as Scots, we don't have a say about our country being in or out of Europe. We will when we become an independent Nation again. happy.gif

Health Secretary Nicola Sturgeon said it is "inappropriate and irrelevant" to compare other countries’ laws on tobacco with the alcohol pricing plan. [attachment=5940:sHa_rofl_1_.gif]
mortonjag 2009-10-28 19:19:38
QUOTE(Sanny @ Oct 28 2009, 06:52 PM) [snapback]663111[/snapback]
Your the biggest joke on this board.

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mortonjag 2009-10-28 19:24:16
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Oct 28 2009, 05:48 PM) [snapback]663095[/snapback]
The Rentier?

He hasn't got the legs for a kilt. rolleyes.gif

Amputee?
mortonjag 2009-10-28 19:28:28
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Oct 28 2009, 07:20 PM) [snapback]663131[/snapback]
Indeed. That sort of management style can bring early rewards but usually longer-term failure, as witness both Irons and McCormack. I'll settle for Alan Moore thanks. rolleyes.gif

So we're definitely getting him Smiffy?

Goody gumdrops! [attachment=5943:cb.gif]
mortonjag 2009-10-28 19:30:11
QUOTE(Sanny @ Oct 28 2009, 07:25 PM) [snapback]663134[/snapback]
Most people that jag end up looking like skeletons.

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mortonjag 2009-10-28 19:32:52
QUOTE(Sanny @ Oct 28 2009, 07:28 PM) [snapback]663138[/snapback]
I heard your favourite film was Boxing Helena.

I don't watch films!

Not like folk to tell lies about the Jag. [attachment=5944:sHa_shakeshout_1_.gif]
mortonjag 2009-10-28 19:34:09
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 28 2009, 07:05 PM) [snapback]663121[/snapback]
Mr Mellie I will glady swap your TT for one of these. biggrin.gif

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mortonjag 2009-10-28 19:41:14
QUOTE(Sanny @ Oct 28 2009, 07:39 PM) [snapback]663143[/snapback]
Are you wanking over that?

Over that what? wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-29 05:52:17 TOLY!

..and what the Hell does this mean?

After several delays, his case finally came before an exceptional hardship hearing at Stirling Justice of the Peace court on August 20. Normally, the minimum ban for totting up 12 points is six months, but McGrigor had this reduced to four months on medical grounds..

I f*ckin' HATE that type of Tory scumbag arsehole weasel self satisfied cheating lying c*nt! [attachment=5945:1717_1_.gif]
mortonjag 2009-10-29 05:59:27
QUOTE(Mr H Palms @ Oct 28 2009, 09:11 PM) [snapback]663168[/snapback]
Anyone know where in greenock i could buy a burka. dressing up as a suicide bomber on saturday night and cant be arsed going to glasgow for one.

cheers

Burberry or cheapie?
mortonjag 2009-10-29 06:01:45
QUOTE(Sanny @ Oct 28 2009, 07:43 PM) [snapback]663145[/snapback]
This 'sentence' may be evidence of the havoc wreaked on our educational system by M.Bam! Attached Image

'Over that what' is a phrase.
mortonjag 2009-10-29 06:04:17
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Oct 28 2009, 10:53 PM) [snapback]663199[/snapback]
Nine months?! Nine feeking months?!!! Junkie muggers get community service and he gets nine months? This country's s***e.

Flyer, that bike is pug ugly. Sportsbikes haven't looked good since the 2005 Fireblade or perhaps the 2006 R6.

Yip-if he'd only been doing half the speed he'd still have killed any f*cker in the road, so what's the big deal? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-29 06:11:01
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Oct 28 2009, 08:41 PM) [snapback]663164[/snapback]
Nah, it depends on who your listening to and whether or not they know what they are talking about. I would respectfully suggest you get your self another "source". I'll take mine over yours any-day. ph34r.gif

Hearing voices is not a source, Measles. [attachment=5946:hit.gif]
mortonjag 2009-10-29 06:13:45
QUOTE(vespaton @ Oct 28 2009, 10:12 PM) [snapback]663188[/snapback]
Alex Ferguson is a bit of a bumper and look at him, most managers are bumpers, the nice 1's like mcinally just don't cut it.

Allan Moore is kinda a boring character, won't exactly get the fire burning in the belly, he will be mediocre at best.

Sean Connor has had proven success with his techniques, not everyones cup of tea but we need a manager who runs the show and is in control pf his players....now is the time to bring him in, get rid of the under performers and Sean boy will bring the Irish Brigade over to do a job, there are many talented players in Ireland who are untapped, could be a goldmine for us.

BP.

Excellent-I'm stony broke this month.
mortonjag 2009-10-29 06:15:28
QUOTE(Roger Mellie @ Oct 28 2009, 08:52 PM) [snapback]663166[/snapback]
You see Mortonjag, Barbarassa has just found out I have a double leg break the ****. At least the TT mileage will be staying low for a while longer!

Sorry to hear that-it's just not cricket! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-29 06:18:49 There again......................................
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mortonjag 2009-10-29 06:39:21
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Oct 29 2009, 06:34 AM) [snapback]663217[/snapback]
I understand what you're saying, XJ, but it's still hypocritical. True, any military isn't SUPPOSED to kill innocents, and it suclks when they do. However, in war it's almost impossible not to, for many reasons. Still, whenever it happens by us, the computer warriors here start condemning my country and military......but when it happens at the hands of terrorists/Taliban/AQ, etc, nothing is said.

And, for the record, I'm not the typical American.

That is an indisputable fact.
mortonjag 2009-10-29 06:41:05
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 29 2009, 06:39 AM) [snapback]663218[/snapback]
Then again you mean? smile.gif

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mortonjag 2009-10-29 07:30:13
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 29 2009, 06:55 AM) [snapback]663223[/snapback]
Out of curiosity, how long has it taken you to learn how to attach things?

You'll be hotlinking next!

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2009-10-29 07:45:00
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 29 2009, 07:42 AM) [snapback]663227[/snapback]
The SNP want to keep the monarchy after indepndence as well. Don't see that happening..... laugh.gif

His Imperial Majesty King Bawheid the First of Scotland?
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mortonjag 2009-10-29 08:24:30
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Oct 29 2009, 08:03 AM) [snapback]663229[/snapback]
Mortonjag comes in cycles.

He talks some sense for a while.
He starts going off on vendettas.
He gets really tedious and posts hundreds of threads about nothing and annoying everyone.
He buggers off for a few months.
He returns when something he said a while ago was correct, ignoring the other things that were very wrong.
He talks some sense for a while.

I believe we're at stage 3 of the metamorphosis.

ON ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-29 08:29:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 29 2009, 08:06 AM) [snapback]663231[/snapback]
So, now we need to ask posters ... are you one of them or one of those ???

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Ane o' thae? [attachment=5950:sFl_scotland2_1_.gif]


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mortonjag 2009-10-29 08:31:20
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Oct 29 2009, 08:30 AM) [snapback]663237[/snapback]
Apparently it's in today's Daily Record that Moore WILL NOT be the new Morton Manager, and that actually Sean Connor will be unveiled as the new boss today. Moore is raging apparently.

Time will tell! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-29 09:09:53
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Oct 29 2009, 08:41 AM) [snapback]663241[/snapback]
There will be no large investments coming from AD anytime in the near to medium term future.

Indeed, it is looking likely that there will be a rough woo'ing of another party to help progress Cappielow and Greenock Morton.

I am one of Rae's biggest critics, but mainly due to his complete ineptitude in managing the easy stuff - communications, merchandising, picking a competent manager - I have never criticised him in terms of the devotion he has to the club, nor the amount of money he throws at it on a regular basis.

IF, and it is a big IF, we land Allan Moore, there will be only one man to thank for making it happen.

TonInDublin

Have you spoken to him TiD?

A serious question.

If so, have you asked him why?

Also a serious question.

You are of course correct. Mr Rae is responsible for everything that happens at Cappielow.

He is also responsible for everything that does NOT! sad.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-29 10:49:56
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Oct 29 2009, 09:35 AM) [snapback]663252[/snapback]
I thought you knew everything that goes on a Cappielow? laugh.gif laugh.gif

You appear to have many daft notions Smiffy!
mortonjag 2009-10-29 10:57:50 Next thing Connor will be telling us Shoogly's sold him short because he won't pay his boat fares, and we'll end up with JG as planned from the word go! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-29 12:01:52
QUOTE(Rampage Nu Sport @ Oct 29 2009, 11:20 AM) [snapback]663268[/snapback]
The more I think about this, the more I think we should just confirm Grady as manager for a fixed period, and spend the money earmarked on a manager for one or two judicious additions to the squad. If necessary get Grady or McManus on the boat to Ireland to sniff out all these Irish superstars for themselves.

We could do worse than that.
mortonjag 2009-10-29 13:19:28
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 29 2009, 01:16 PM) [snapback]663294[/snapback]
The Tele says Stirling wanted £180k. Then dropped it to £160k . laugh.gif

I'm glad Dougie wasn't taken to the cleaners this time that kind of money is just nonsense.

That kind of money pays four first division wages for a year too!
mortonjag 2009-10-29 13:31:53 I'm just thinking that if the Club can't afford a Manager, but signs one anyway, where is it going to find the money for the players he'd like to sign before we offload?

Would it NOT be better to hold fire? Despite all our injury problems we've done considerably better under JG than we were doing before, and our recent defeats have been against the better squads of the division.
mortonjag 2009-10-29 13:34:20
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Oct 29 2009, 01:19 PM) [snapback]663296[/snapback]
Don't forget to ask "does my bomb look big in this?" before you go out.

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mortonjag 2009-10-29 13:37:48
QUOTE(jimbobton @ Oct 29 2009, 01:30 PM) [snapback]663299[/snapback]
Will be waiting until Monday to boost home attendances for the Thistle game and probably after an away defeat this weekend.

I thought we were promised an announcement of the new Manager by this evening!
mortonjag 2009-10-29 13:50:00 Connor - Dundalk 2009 To Present P28 W11 D4 L13 win % = 39.28

Grady - Morton 2009 To Present P5 W2 D0 L3 win% = 40.00
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mortonjag 2009-10-29 13:51:50
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 29 2009, 01:44 PM) [snapback]663308[/snapback]
According to the tele he said it would be yesterday at the earliest.

So that can really be any time after that wink.gif

Most folk seemed to believe it would be on 'Wednesday or Thursday'. Was that just another rumour?
mortonjag 2009-10-29 13:54:54
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 29 2009, 01:53 PM) [snapback]663311[/snapback]
Mortonjag wants to sook on Grady's boaby - 100%

Mortonjag wants to sook on Connor's boaby - 0%
And in case he wishes to twist any of that, I am talking about Ernest Newall performing all fellatio on Grady and none on Connor.

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Do Irishmen have 'Boabies'? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-29 13:58:16
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 29 2009, 01:56 PM) [snapback]663314[/snapback]
...better re-do your biology classes!

'Boaby' is NOT a biological term.

Seems Grady's record this season is better than the Boabieless one! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-29 14:00:26
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 29 2009, 01:56 PM) [snapback]663315[/snapback]
Ah so that is now 'promised'.

Sources wrong as usual aye?

My source was this forum dear.

Is it EVER wrong? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-29 14:02:53
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Oct 29 2009, 01:59 PM) [snapback]663318[/snapback]
Bit of an unfair comparison, Connor is managing a newly promoted team whilst Grady is in charge of a team that finished in mid table the previous season.

Grady is also in charge of a team ravaged by injuries.
mortonjag 2009-10-29 14:03:55
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Oct 29 2009, 02:01 PM) [snapback]663320[/snapback]
I'll be very surprised if an appointment is made before the Inverness game.

Which one? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-29 14:09:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 29 2009, 02:04 PM) [snapback]663324[/snapback]
Well what a shock, a doctor lacking in common sense!

Bravo!

Your disrespect for the Medical Profession is out of order.

Let's hope you require a testy cool removed in the near future! [attachment=5952:devil.gif]
mortonjag 2009-10-29 14:13:31
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 29 2009, 02:12 PM) [snapback]663330[/snapback]
As long as he doesn't turn into Stephen Kenny Mk II then I'd be happy with Connor as gaffer.

Is there any guarantee that he wouldn't?
mortonjag 2009-10-29 14:20:13
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 29 2009, 02:16 PM) [snapback]663333[/snapback]
every manager is a gamble

With Morton, that does appear to be the case! laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-29 14:24:25

After we beat Inverness this Saturday, Grady will be back in the running! [attachment=5953:1720_1_.gif]
mortonjag 2009-10-29 14:30:41
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 29 2009, 01:42 PM) [snapback]663306[/snapback]
Maybe soon to the true figure of closer to 100k, doesn't matter either way, how Stirling can ask this much for a 2nd Div manager is beyond me. But Moore's petulance shows his true colours and we probably got away with another fud around the place.

Chairmen do tend to overvalue their assets! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-29 14:38:32
QUOTE(forza ton @ Oct 29 2009, 02:35 PM) [snapback]663339[/snapback]
That's nice

You've had it done? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-29 14:42:01
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 29 2009, 02:41 PM) [snapback]663343[/snapback]
just as well - it would be even worse if he'd broken the middle wicket too!! blink.gif

With a full toss?
mortonjag 2009-10-29 14:45:31
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 29 2009, 02:44 PM) [snapback]663346[/snapback]
He went to a short-sighted circumcisionist.

Who got the sac.......

For nicking his pullover?
mortonjag 2009-10-29 15:00:04
QUOTE(Tontaster @ Oct 29 2009, 02:54 PM) [snapback]663353[/snapback]
kljbbbhjdvbvuhrguiueghj dbghiguig jkdbgtgehggjhvervbjvejhvrjhgegt v ghvcghffjhfvn m s jksabfjkbjkasvfvasf asbfvasdhbfmn bkbjmnvbvfvjhvbfmnvnvfvbhvf mnvfjvaj

Currently managing


zyckyczki abraroviczkytsfgyri ?

Aye let' laugh.gif s have him NOW!
mortonjag 2009-10-29 15:02:53
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 29 2009, 02:52 PM) [snapback]663351[/snapback]
TAFKAC has a point. I'm a believer in self-determination and responsibility but every time I read the narrow minded drivel posted by Col or Alibi I really cringe. Certainly wouldn't stop me voting for independence but I shudder when I think of the inward looking Scotland they want. It would be a truely horrible palce.

Where English would no longer matter! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-29 15:04:25
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 29 2009, 03:01 PM) [snapback]663362[/snapback]
This is dragging on too long. We need stability at the Club. With Moore not coming and some unknown Irish coach waiting in the wings who has a limited knowledge of lower league football in Scotland.
We should give the job to Grady and McManus till the end of season and let them bring in a couple of loan deals to get us out of this rut !

If we had any money to spare I'd perhaps disagree. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-29 15:05:10
QUOTE(ANDYRITCHESBOOTS @ Oct 29 2009, 03:04 PM) [snapback]663367[/snapback]
They are playing on friday night and if he is coming it will be after that

Alex williams speaks highly of him and says he wil do a great job for us...

Wouldn't bet on it! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-29 15:05:56
QUOTE(Tontaster @ Oct 29 2009, 03:04 PM) [snapback]663365[/snapback]
Sorry man im bad at typing.

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mortonjag 2009-10-29 15:08:53
QUOTE(ANDYRITCHESBOOTS @ Oct 29 2009, 03:08 PM) [snapback]663372[/snapback]
Why?

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mortonjag 2009-10-29 16:55:25
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Oct 29 2009, 04:15 PM) [snapback]663408[/snapback]
I was told yesterday that A Moore has been offered the job.

With N Griffin as ASSistant? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-29 19:42:57
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 29 2009, 06:16 PM) [snapback]663463[/snapback]
http://www.greenockmorton.org/forum/index....mp;#entry663367 it was merged in here with another thread

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mortonjag 2009-10-29 19:55:44
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Oct 29 2009, 05:29 PM) [snapback]663445[/snapback]
I think im in love wub.gif

I have it from an impeccable source that she has a mingin' fud! [attachment=5956:secret.gif]
mortonjag 2009-10-29 20:00:02
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 29 2009, 07:47 PM) [snapback]663484[/snapback]
Really, is that all you’ve got Douglas? I’ve made 3,500 posts, some have been complete pish and some have made sense yet all you can do is mock me for spelling truly incorrectly? Wow. dry.gif

Good gracious Peter, you sound truely offended! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-29 21:22:17
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Oct 29 2009, 08:58 PM) [snapback]663512[/snapback]
Nothing against stirling....but **** off.
I would have liked moore as our next manager but who do they think they are touting?
I can see a broke club trying their best to get cash, but unlucky allan nae get out clause means nae full time job.
Don't know much about this Irish guy, seems very mixed opinion on him and I don't want to see the current babysitters left to their own devices, surely out o 45 applications there were at least 1 with the right credentials.

1. cheap
2. diddy fitba knowhow
3. thick skin
4. booability factor
5. me
It's now got the Dougability factor o hopelessness, we are a reddy to commonsenseability wrapped up in a suger coated hopelesisity.......ish

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Shoogly and the Sugababes!
mortonjag 2009-10-29 21:23:49
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 29 2009, 08:36 PM) [snapback]663499[/snapback]
Don't flatter yourself Douglas. dry.gif

Wood eye? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-29 21:26:13
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 29 2009, 09:04 PM) [snapback]663515[/snapback]
I couldn't care less if an independent Scotland is a member of the EU. Norway isn't and they don't appear to be suffering much as a result.
'Independence in Europe' is a ridiculous notion and if we're as 'oil and resource rich' as some claim we are then we have no need to be a member of a club that hasn't signed its accounts off for donkeys years.

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mortonjag 2009-10-29 21:31:09
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 29 2009, 08:46 PM) [snapback]663502[/snapback]
Even though I only listen occasionally I thought I'd post this for the middle-aged posters....
Philip Archer dead....



QUOTE(capello @ Oct 29 2009, 09:06 PM) [snapback]663517[/snapback]
Thoughts are with the family and the surviving archers!!! dry.gif
dum de dum de dum de dum dum de dum de dum dum

dum de dum de dum de dum dum de dum de dum dum

dum de dum de dum dum de dum de dum dum de dum de dum dum

dum de dum de dum de dum de dum de dum de dum dum!!!

dum de dum de dum de dum
mortonjag 2009-10-29 21:33:06
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Oct 29 2009, 08:54 PM) [snapback]663508[/snapback]
I'd still take my chances. rolleyes.gif

and worms! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-29 21:41:46 Life goes on, and we have a game on Saturday. Nothing ever seems simple in Raemania does it?

Well I'm going to stick my neck out and predict a victory for the mighty Ton.

On Saturday evening Aileen Marr, John Connell, and Jeanie Calderfield will be forgotten names and 99.31% of posters will always have thought James Grady was just the job!

Prediction Inverness 0 Ton 1 (Pantaloons). [attachment=5960:hit.gif]
mortonjag 2009-10-29 21:49:11
QUOTE(Malt @ Oct 29 2009, 09:45 PM) [snapback]663537[/snapback]
3-0 Inverness.

New manager will be in the stand and announced as non other than Willy Wonka aka Douglas Rae who feels he has the experience after 8 years of pulling the strings!

Secret video of JM's interview
mortonjag 2009-10-29 22:09:02
QUOTE(ton1901 @ Oct 29 2009, 09:54 PM) [snapback]663540[/snapback]
He may only dragging it on so he actually makes the right decision after the last few rushed appointments

...or it could be to do with MUNNY! [attachment=5961:sweatdrop.gif]
mortonjag 2009-10-29 22:12:16
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 29 2009, 09:52 PM) [snapback]663539[/snapback]
That shows you how out of touch you are if you believe the SNP are just getting protest votes.
Was the Euro elections protest votes ? Is the fact the SNP are the controlling party in councils in all the major cities apart from Glasgow protest votes?
The last by-election in Greenock this year was won by the SNP ffs! Was that another protest vote ?

The Bill for the referendum goes before the Scottish parliament on St Andrews Day this year, lets see who votes it down next year. Then let them explain their decsions to do so and why they won't let the Scottish people decide on their constitutional future at the 2011 elections.

I agree for once. I believe that the corporate charisma of the SNP candidates has been the main factor! [attachment=5962:sHa_dielaughing_1_.gif]
mortonjag 2009-10-29 22:13:29
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 29 2009, 10:11 PM) [snapback]663544[/snapback]
sure rolleyes.gif

You agree? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-29 22:15:01
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 29 2009, 10:13 PM) [snapback]663548[/snapback]
I love when Bryan has a go at the jag, as it always puts the jag in a hole!

Go on son, dig your way out smile.gif

You appear to be calling our good Moderator a POUFFE! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-29 22:20:12
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 29 2009, 10:19 PM) [snapback]663551[/snapback]
nope

It's NOT about MUNNY? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-30 05:26:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 29 2009, 11:06 PM) [snapback]663570[/snapback]
another thread to merge ?

As the link has already been posted.

All that merging must have sent the wee souls off to bed early! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-30 05:28:59
QUOTE(capitanus @ Oct 29 2009, 11:49 PM) [snapback]663587[/snapback]
I have to say NewTon, you do post a relentless amount of s***e on these messageboards, and have done so consistently for the past ten years or so.

Though he's never made a drunken arse of himself at a Morton match and milked it for twenty! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-30 05:31:39
QUOTE(MaxTon1874 @ Oct 29 2009, 11:07 PM) [snapback]663571[/snapback]
I heard today that its already Connor and Moore is well peeved aff. But also read that in the Daily recordo today that Mr Rae told them to sing for there 180k, cant say i blame him as i wouldn't pay 100 pound for Moore.

Who all voted for Grady????? Where yous at eastend park ? get a grip folks.

Thank god Connor has the most votes on here as i think he is our next boss, and to even think about picking Grady over Connor is suicide and they should be put in hospital under the mental health act wink.gif

180k for Moore laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif .... think on what kind of striker you could get for that.

I heard today that the moon is made of green cheese! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-30 05:33:30
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 29 2009, 11:04 PM) [snapback]663569[/snapback]
Could we organise a kids' party in a sweetie factory ?

We certainly have the prerequisites.
mortonjag 2009-10-30 05:53:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 30 2009, 05:29 AM) [snapback]663599[/snapback]
With all this merging going on, is it time for Mr Donald to save the **** ?

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Uncle Donald is under a cloud. Rumours fly, but none of the mongers has the balls to admit that he is only a witness to the outpourings of the Rae propaganda machine.

I'm sure kind Uncle Donald would love to help in those very present times of trouble when Chairmen can blindly and arrogantly put paid to apparently mutually beneficial faits accomplis, by reckless over valuation of their main assets. [attachment=5964:nono.gif]
I believe the last paragraph to be accurate!
mortonjag 2009-10-30 05:58:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 30 2009, 05:54 AM) [snapback]663603[/snapback]
Well, MJ, it sure looks green.

And it sometimes, though not always, has a big cheesy smile! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-30 06:05:27
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Oct 30 2009, 12:29 AM) [snapback]663593[/snapback]
Its just wonderful how the politicians seem to think that saying sorry and paying back the money is enough punishment. The guy who made his apology today Tony McNulty was told to repay the thick end of £14k scammed from the taxpayer. What would happen to any of the rest of us caught with our finger in the till to that extent. I'm a CA and I know I would be expelled from the Institute of Chartered Accountants which would mean no practising certificate = no job. I would also likely be heavily fined if I had repaid the money but maybe even do some Bar L time due to abusing my position of trust.

The least that should happen is that these guys are just sacked.

Having said all that, the proposed new expenses system is unworkable also. MP's by the nature of their jobs have to spend time in London and in their constituency and they have to incur expenses to do that. Its only right that they are reimbursed for that in the way that any of us would be if we were in a job which required you to travel to and stay in London several nights a week. The answer is to have an expenses system like any commercial organisation has. There may even be a case for acquiring a hotel or similar and turning it into an MP's lodging house which would overnight remove all the crap about needing London homes.

Its also unfair that MPs cannot employ family members where that person genuinely works for them. Its hardlines that a wife who has genuinely worked for her husband for 20 years is now out of a job because other MPs abused the system. There should be a mechanism that measures what work the individual does and they should be paid accordingly. My wife has worked in my business for nearly 30 years and has contributed more than her fair share. An MP's wife almost by default will be involved with her husband's job like it or not.


Agreed.

MP's are not, of course professionals. They require no training, and no certificates, and are often half blind to the truth before they even master its distortion.

For us -deliberate and pre-meditated fraud. Criminal offence and probably struck off.

For them- a slap on the wrist from the ones who haven't been caught yet.
mortonjag 2009-10-30 06:10:12
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Oct 30 2009, 12:16 AM) [snapback]663590[/snapback]
Are these two different animals - a bit like whisky and whiskey? unsure.gif

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[attachment=5966:famous_n..._russell.jpg]
mortonjag 2009-10-30 06:11:49
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 30 2009, 06:09 AM) [snapback]663606[/snapback]
A good few of them are professional liars, so proficient that they believe their own lies.

Sine qua non Mr Edwards! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-30 06:32:03 How easy is it to distinguish best quality laminate flooring from cheapest (engineered) real wood flooring?
mortonjag 2009-10-30 08:30:03
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 30 2009, 08:13 AM) [snapback]663614[/snapback]
What the hell does that mean?

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mortonjag 2009-10-30 08:34:01
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 30 2009, 08:23 AM) [snapback]663619[/snapback]
Our entire ground floor is solid oak and our youngest's room is laminate. The difference is like watching an Andy Ritchie free kick compared to a Steve Masterton one.

Hmm-I do take your point Peter. Cheap laminate looks exactly so - cheap and nasty, but the best quality stuff is more expensive than the cheapest 'real wood' - engineered wood flooring. Solid wood of course is inimitable but a pest to lay.

Well I've given it due consideration (and taken advice from HUR) and I'll be laying good quality laminate in our hall today.

I may even post a wee piccy later! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-30 09:32:05
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Oct 30 2009, 08:38 AM) [snapback]663634[/snapback]
And some people have the cheek to say this board is going downhill as well. rolleyes.gif

And what does Le Rentier lay in his posh appartments?

Apart from his boyfriends of course! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-30 10:27:50
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Oct 30 2009, 10:20 AM) [snapback]663644[/snapback]
Well I never! ohmy.gif

...M'Lord! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-30 11:07:07
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 30 2009, 10:36 AM) [snapback]663648[/snapback]
It doesn't matter whether it's cheap or expensive, laminate will always be fake.

unsure.gif Laminate is not wood, Mr Edwards-I know THAT. This is the plastic tit syndrome all over again isn't it? I asked whether best quality laminate can be distinguished from worst quality 'engineered' real wood, and I was not advocating the use of a microscope or nit tweezers! laugh.gif

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 30 2009, 10:58 AM) [snapback]663651[/snapback]
Boring.
A picture of what the mad Dr Mentaljag keeps under his floor, now that might be interesting.

Under my floor Mr Edwards I keep my cellar! [attachment=5967:1718_1_.gif]
mortonjag 2009-10-30 11:08:10
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 30 2009, 11:05 AM) [snapback]663654[/snapback]
Wot's wrong with some nice Kirkcaldy lino from the Co-op in Roxburgh Street ?

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mortonjag 2009-10-30 12:29:19
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 30 2009, 12:22 PM) [snapback]663666[/snapback]
.......if you're thinking what i think you're thinking, remember to wrap Sellotape around the hamster.......
....... so it doesn't burst.
tongue.gif

That's very rude! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-30 12:39:35 What do you give to a donkey with headache?

Asspirin.
mortonjag 2009-10-30 13:52:57
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 30 2009, 01:16 PM) [snapback]663686[/snapback]
aye - right in the googlies....... blink.gif

A 'no ball'?
mortonjag 2009-10-30 16:39:34
QUOTE(cmdc @ Oct 30 2009, 04:21 PM) [snapback]663732[/snapback]
In that siutuation, I'd think Grady will feel fortunate that his managerial break through had come at a full-time club, with a big fan base, and good facilities, and would be extremely motivated to make the most of it. Good jobs (and whoever gets this one right will realise what a good job it is) don't come up too often, particularly for inexperienced managers.

Agreed. Grady's not daft - if he's offered the job he'll jump at it. He's not pretending to be experienced so why should he be upset if Rae wants to try for experience first?
mortonjag 2009-10-30 16:41:31
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 30 2009, 03:35 PM) [snapback]663716[/snapback]
certainly wouldn't bowl a maiden over!

...especially if stumped at the same time.
mortonjag 2009-10-30 16:44:33
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 30 2009, 04:25 PM) [snapback]663734[/snapback]
I don't think many are disagreeing with that...but it is clear the system has been widely abused!

I deal with the expenses in my place and they have to be signed off thrice before they get to me, with all receipts and back-ups for everything they are claiming.

If they don't have the back-up they don't get it, and if they are found to be abusing it (as per our contracts) it is a severe discipline or even a job loss.

That is the difference, almost everywhere would operate like that yet MPs seem to think it is fine to claim everything and anything.

I thought you worked for the Cooncil PD! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-30 16:45:22
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 30 2009, 04:27 PM) [snapback]663736[/snapback]
It means he has learned how to attached smilies from other places!

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mortonjag 2009-10-30 17:28:32
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Oct 30 2009, 05:06 PM) [snapback]663752[/snapback]
Grady can feel any way he likes. What are we a charity outfit. If the guy has got it he would have got better results than that. He never so do we just panic and give him it. There are plenty more better managers out there.

For half the price, to boot! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-30 18:50:31
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Oct 30 2009, 06:22 PM) [snapback]663779[/snapback]
Our club is becoming a joke.
FFS deal wi it willie wonka

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mortonjag 2009-10-30 18:54:38
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 30 2009, 06:17 PM) [snapback]663776[/snapback]
Erm no that isn't the way it's working.
MP's should be elected from the best available in the country IMO, which means NOT the donkeys in coloured rosettes that can get in now, an increase in their wages to make it more professionally competitive, and the reduction in the number of MPs. Expenses can be scrapped and a basic expense allowance allocated, perhaps weighted on distance from Westminster.

The muppets are already on £65,000 p.a. -BASIC- SPARROT.

I've always had you down as a future political scumbag snake! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-31 05:50:55
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 30 2009, 07:02 PM) [snapback]663789[/snapback]
Your point being?

My point being that they are already grossly overpaid.
mortonjag 2009-10-31 06:03:54
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Oct 30 2009, 11:20 PM) [snapback]663885[/snapback]
I hope your knees are in good order. I was just about crippled after doing a bathroom which, incidentally we did with tile effect laminate which was a total barsteward to get properly lined up. Not much of an issue with wood effect flooring.

You probably also want the clip together variety as it will not gap once down. Likewise, its a bit more trouble but it is worth taking off the skirtings and refitting them after laying the floor - saves putting down bits of quadrant round the edges as a finish.

Good advice, and I normally do, but we have three cupboards off the hall and I'm flooring right into them so I'd have to remove all the door facings etc. as well.

A point about those 'click system' floors. Provided you store the panels flat and at room temperature for a day or so before starting, and provided they are machined well, they're a scoosh to lay once you've got the hang of it.

Still haven't got an answer to my question. Does expensive laminate look better than cheap 'real wood'?
mortonjag 2009-10-31 06:09:00
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Oct 30 2009, 07:09 PM) [snapback]663791[/snapback]
And the Moore situation is DDF's fault because..................?? mad.gif

McGregor did EXACTLY what Rae does every bloody time-priced himself out! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-31 09:08:47 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Poor Shoogly shoots himself in the foot every bloody time. Give it to JG till January on a 'results means permanence' basis!

Inverness 0 Morton 1 smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-31 09:11:55
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 31 2009, 07:32 AM) [snapback]663926[/snapback]
Surely it’s up to the ‘working class’ to emancipate themselves. They might get a bit miffed if they thought an architect wanted to do it for them. dry.gif

David Edwards - the Architect of Working Class Emancipation in the 21st Century! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-31 10:49:16
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 31 2009, 10:40 AM) [snapback]663954[/snapback]
There's a laugh eh. If I could manage to emancipate myself I'd be lucky, never mind anybody else. Anyway, enough of my nonsense, you're fast becoming the Barry Bucknell of this board, the King of Diy. He destroyed more buildings than the Luftwaffe. Do yourself and the rest of the world a favour, use real wood and get a tradesman to fit it.

Are you kidding - I'm a bloody professional remember! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-31 10:51:18
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 31 2009, 09:54 AM) [snapback]663949[/snapback]
Disagree. Dougie was after who he thought was best for the job. It didn't work out that way for him and decided to get on and give the job to someone else.
For the sake of stability this had to be done this weekend. We all need to get behind the management team and get up the table away from the relegation and playoff zone.

Precisely!
mortonjag 2009-10-31 10:54:48 I think Meghahi will die before this thread! [attachment=5968:1718_1_.gif]
mortonjag 2009-10-31 11:25:22
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 31 2009, 10:57 AM) [snapback]663960[/snapback]
If he survives another 20 days MacAskill's time is up anyway. biggrin.gif

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mortonjag 2009-10-31 11:29:05 With our injury ravaged squad - a squad unbalanced and lacking key players even when fully fit - I reckon JG may get a wee bit of credit! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-31 11:33:51
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 31 2009, 10:54 AM) [snapback]663958[/snapback]
Perhaps 'bloody' being the operative word when you're at large with hammer and saw. laugh.gif

You'd have to see my work to appreciate my comprehensive ability Mr E. I'm also a superb cook and lover! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-31 11:35:03
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 31 2009, 11:12 AM) [snapback]663965[/snapback]
Wasn't that what you meant to say? biggrin.gif

'Twas indeed implied! wink.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-31 11:36:48
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Oct 31 2009, 11:34 AM) [snapback]663972[/snapback]
If you can allow Rangers fans to wind you up in the present climate, you should pay more attention to whats going on in the world.

I'm not unhappy Grady got the job. Performances have improved and with any luck we could have got something from both the Dundee and Dunfermline games. Even the Ross County game, although it was our worst display under Grady we still had more chances than them.

Grady has not had much luck with injuries and now he has the job, lets see whether his contacts in the game can get us a couple of loan signings. Maybe Mr Rae can divert the money he was will to pay for Moore to that.

I just think that James Grady has the right raw materials to make a decent manager. I think he can be a very good motivator and for me, thats the main skill required.

He (and any manager would have) has the advantage that most of the squad are out of contract next summer so most of them will be playing for their jobs.

ABSOLUTELY!
mortonjag 2009-10-31 12:08:49
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Oct 31 2009, 12:01 PM) [snapback]663986[/snapback]
They should have been given the job until the new year, not until the end of the season.

On a performance = extension basis too!
mortonjag 2009-10-31 12:16:11
QUOTE(Zutons @ Oct 31 2009, 12:13 PM) [snapback]663993[/snapback]
You heard it here first. rolleyes.gif

Fraid not!

You are, however, CORRECT! bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-31 12:19:07
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Oct 31 2009, 12:15 PM) [snapback]663994[/snapback]
A blind man can see that coming. And with Douglas the come and join us with your pals routine while openly slagging us off will not wash cos everybody is struggling financially.The point being if you throw away your money on daft purchases eventually you pay the price. Douglas has done that time and time again. If he purchased rubbish machinery, terrible managers, overpaid on the sugar price and could not get the sweeties to tase right the factory would have shut down years ago. Unfortunately Douglas thinks he knows his football like he knows the sweetie game and he makes the decisions. He has no idea about players and managers. Leave that to somebody else Douglas. Still raging. mad.gif

Good gracious Sir - you appear to be repeating almost verbatim my comments of three seasons ago when I was roundly shot down in flames.

The club needs fresh investment before we'll ever get out of the Rae rut. He's had the chance of that with AD.

Has he f*cked up there too! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-10-31 12:22:35
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Oct 31 2009, 12:04 PM) [snapback]663988[/snapback]
You takes your choices as they say.

One thing in favour of the laminate is that it is relatively waterproof. We had a leak at an upstairs radiator when away for a few days and came back to find a flood of very dirty water had come through the ceiling into our hall which has laminate flooring. The ceiling needed replaced but after a wash the laminate was totally undamaged. My son on the other hand, had real wood flooring in his kitchen and that was a disaster for water marks etc.

If you are flooring an area which is unlikely to get wet, I think its just a matter of taste. For a kitchen/bathroom or even a hall with an outside door, I would go for laminate.

That was HUR logic! I wanted to lay engineered wood. The laminate she's chosen, I have to say looks very realistic. Instead of the normal flush butt joins there's a groove incorporated and the finished article does look almost as good as the real McCoy.
mortonjag 2009-10-31 13:05:43
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Oct 31 2009, 01:02 PM) [snapback]664011[/snapback]
If he was desperate for Moore why not wait 2 weeks and go in with a tempter offer of say 60k plus two stirling players when they are desperate.

Maybe because he's an experienced businessman, aka fudge maker!
mortonjag 2009-11-01 08:12:19


QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 31 2009, 04:55 PM) [snapback]664163[/snapback]
Four straight defeats is nothing short of mince.
The entire first third of the season has been disasterous, and I cannot see when things will pick up.

We're fighting with two dross, fellow Second Division-standard sides for the drop. Fantastic. dry.gif


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mortonjag 2009-11-01 08:26:56 We're not looking very good - let's be honest, but at our best we can still compete with anybody in this league.

Grady and McManus don't claim to have managerial experience, but they most certainly got results against Airdrie and Q of S, and anybody at Palmerston that day must have been impressed.

Since then we've had a stinking run of results. Ross County were too well organised for us, we were a bit unlucky against Dundee, and as injury problems mounted and uncertainty increased over our 'new' manager we slipped up at Dunfermline. Yesterday was just not going to be our day against a Caley side which has been scoring freely of late.

I reckon the tide will turn this coming Saturday - that's football, and I still believe we'll end up in the top half of this league.

Anybody who thinks that Allan Moore in our dugout yesterday could have made much difference frankly needs his heid looked!
mortonjag 2009-11-01 08:38:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 31 2009, 11:17 PM) [snapback]664264[/snapback]
Dear Doctor,

What percentage of males die with prostate cancer, rather than because of it ?

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A good question Newt to which, as you very well know, there can be no accurate answer.
mortonjag 2009-11-01 14:52:55
QUOTE(C B @ Nov 1 2009, 10:34 AM) [snapback]664315[/snapback]
Its time to shoosh MJ, I think its fair to say you predict we will win every week (more based on hope than on football acumen) but if we had a greenockmorton.org predictor league, you would be getting relegated ph34r.gif

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mortonjag 2009-11-01 15:12:18
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Nov 1 2009, 12:38 PM) [snapback]664363[/snapback]
I'm sure he'd listen to offers, but when and from where will they come? We'll have to wait a while I reckon.

Depends on the asking price I'd guess. How much do you imagine he'd want - I know somebody who's interested if the price is right! smile.gif

QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Nov 1 2009, 01:52 PM) [snapback]664397[/snapback]
So what is the real problem at Morton ?


You're a director FFS - that seems an incredibly stupid question unless it was asked 'tongue in cheek'.

The real problem at Morton NOW is an unwillingness/inability to fund further progress. The club will not move forward without more MUNNY.

The secondary problem is inseparable from the first - blundering, ignorant, and arrogant mismanagement of every aspect from the day the Shooglemeister became the supreme being at Cappielow.

Nothing has changed and nothing will change until he sells up or snuffs it. happy.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-01 15:16:06
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Nov 1 2009, 03:03 PM) [snapback]664432[/snapback]
Only an idiot would look at one game out of 12 and think that's the true sign of competitiveness. We've taken 3 out of 30 points against the top 7 sides. We're horridly uncompetitive.
Mortonjag can't see the desert for that wee stumped tree in the middle of it. unsure.gif

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mortonjag 2009-11-01 15:24:04
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Nov 1 2009, 02:57 PM) [snapback]664428[/snapback]
But you can't as it isn't a conscription service and they choose to fight.

I think he intends to drop you there from a helicopter SPARROT ....naked except for a luminous Union Jack. bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-01 15:28:07
QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporters @ Nov 1 2009, 03:19 PM) [snapback]664445[/snapback]
You are obviously bitter about Grady getting the job, at what cost should we get rid of Grady?

It's been well documented on this board that I have no time what soever for Jim Duffy, he is the last person I would want in charge of Morton but if he got the job I would give him a chance and my full backing.

Jim MacVicar

Don't overestimate the little cretin's intelligence! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-01 19:15:11
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 1 2009, 03:41 PM) [snapback]664450[/snapback]
Some would say that smilie at the ends hints at you actually wanting a human being to die. Poor form Ernie!

Some would say that you are a daft wee tool.
mortonjag 2009-11-01 19:19:28
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Nov 1 2009, 06:27 PM) [snapback]664499[/snapback]
The moaning minnie mouthy morton mob are doing my head in,I am sick to death of people giving their (negative)tuppence worth on -
1. JG and AMc
2. DDFR
3. Ground improvement v squad improvement.

Here's (a wee video of) where to go as an alternative to moaning at cappielow of a Saturday.

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mortonjag 2009-11-01 19:21:54
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 1 2009, 03:41 PM) [snapback]664451[/snapback]
I bet, as usual, you think wrong wink.gif

F*ck off PD - you're irritating me - I may go and find some cellar furniture.
mortonjag 2009-11-01 19:24:01
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Nov 1 2009, 04:49 PM) [snapback]664464[/snapback]
You seem to be assuming MPs are all men.

Some are but boys, and are all vermin.
mortonjag 2009-11-01 19:29:15
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Nov 1 2009, 02:12 PM) [snapback]664414[/snapback]
There is nothing better than humour in trying times. blush.gif Mr Mellie has had a bellyfull of my humerus texts since his wee skinning leg was Larssoned rolleyes.gif

He knows I wish him well and I expect he is delighted to be home given the roomate he was subjected to in IRH.

FFS SPARROT fairly gets around! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-01 19:31:25
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Nov 1 2009, 07:28 PM) [snapback]664529[/snapback]
Aye very good, if watching a clear incompetent churn out performances like Dunfermline last week makes me unhappy, or 'bitter' as some would like to call it, then I guess I mustn't be a 'real' fan.
If Grady has not signed a contract as manager then he is not entitled to a payoff: only the extra wage of a new manager to be factored in. And if Grady has us in free-fall he should not be given the rest of the season and should be sacked, and the application process restarted.
General Nonsense forum for your obsession, thanks.

Furry glove and porny video for yours dear! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-01 19:49:26
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Nov 1 2009, 05:25 PM) [snapback]664473[/snapback]
Ross County are certainly a very well drilled outfit, but to make that statement and at the same time fool yourself into thinking that Grady is doing a good job is contradictory in the extreme.

I don't recall saying anything about fooling myself into thinking anything Eeny.

I assume that you think Grady is doing a bad job. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-01 19:52:36
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Nov 1 2009, 07:50 PM) [snapback]664538[/snapback]
Self-explanatory, surely?

Giving Grady the job 'til summer suggests that GMFC plans on looking for a permanent solution then, so it's just bizarre to let someone who is basically a long-term caretaker to renegotiate deals and sign players. It doesn't give whoever arrives in the summer a fair chance to build his own team, it's lumbering him with a squad of players he might not want, and not much time to get others in as he won't know anything about the squad he is inheriting until he has a chance to see them. We're gonna be stuck with the Chris Smiths and Adam Coakleys yet again.

This isn't the time or place for half-baked measures.

When Shoogly wins the lottery? dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-01 19:57:51
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Nov 1 2009, 07:45 PM) [snapback]664535[/snapback]
The problem isin't just in defence , yes they are sitting too deep but not having enough of a goal threat means teams can pour foward without the fear of getting punished.

The squad is currently fragmented and injury struck. Our central defence has looked very solid at times, but we DON'T have wing backs. At the moment our midfield is about as weak as it's been for two seasons - again because of injuries, and our attack's also depleted.

As I said elsewhere, if Grady gets a good result this Saturday, he'll suddenly be hailed as the redeemer by the very clots who are presently giving him a hard time.
mortonjag 2009-11-02 06:20:45 That's it then folks - another player goes the road of wee Gardyne in the estimation of the Greenock soccer intelligentsia. Gardyne, as everybody knows, is now working as a rent boy in the Bronx. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-02 06:24:25

QUOTE(vespaton @ Nov 1 2009, 10:26 PM) [snapback]664602[/snapback]
That post is genius.....remember the jag thinking when Irons went cappielow would all of a sudden become paradise but he was to shortsighted to realise that the players were the real issue not the manager.

BP

On yer scooter you lying c*nt! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-02 06:33:49
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Nov 1 2009, 07:51 PM) [snapback]664539[/snapback]
Not really. We comfortably finished 6th last season with basically the same squad.

I think Christmas is okay in a normal scenario, but if we were to, say, lose the next five or six games on the bounce serious questions would have to be asked.
And of course, if a better option emerges than the incumbent, we ought to be taking it.

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QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Nov 1 2009, 07:52 PM) [snapback]664540[/snapback]
Some would say that whenever you're presented with a point you don't like you resort to personal abuse rather than attempt to make a reasonable argument against it.

Some might say you're a daft wee tool! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporters @ Nov 1 2009, 09:35 PM) [snapback]664587[/snapback]
It's Gillian Donaldson, I know DDF has said this but I would like to see him take a step back from the running of the club thats why I suggested a Director of Football who would oversee contracts, wages and all other football matters at the club by doing that Gillian's position would also be unnecessary.

edit to add - DDf would just become a figurehead so to speak who owned and financed the club

Jim MacVicar

....as suggested by my good self so long ago that I can't remember! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-02 06:37:39

QUOTE(vespaton @ Nov 2 2009, 01:03 AM) [snapback]664654[/snapback]
I support Greenock Morton, have done since those jokers arrived, so going to support the hoops, not exactly the individuals in them.

BP.

There is something inherently illogical in that statement.

QUOTE(delboy66 @ Nov 2 2009, 01:35 AM) [snapback]664657[/snapback]
I pay my money like everyboby else so can say what i want, this is going to come back & bite us on the arse big style.
& if anybody thinks anything but, is kidding themselves on, if Ayr or Airdrie start to go on a decent run we are fecked, just watch Grady he is like a rabbit caught in a car headlights.
Mr Rae is going to have a lot of questions to reply to come the end of this season but where will we be??

Very true and you may get your c*nt kicked in for doing it! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-02 06:44:33
QUOTE(vespaton @ Nov 1 2009, 10:45 PM) [snapback]664610[/snapback]
If you look at the picture below you will see why we are sitting 3rd bottom and the manager beside "Rookie Grady" has his team in pole position.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_fVsfRGa16wA/Su3r...y%20manager.jpg[/img]
Hilarious to think that this nappy wearing manager is at the helm when what we really need is the guy standing beside him.

BP.

You seem easily amused. Have you tried listening to Prime Minister's Question Time, or even better, reading the Tilly?
mortonjag 2009-11-02 06:45:52
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Nov 2 2009, 06:31 AM) [snapback]664664[/snapback]
How much does he cost an hour Douglas? blush.gif

Much less than me Peter but you wouldn't get the wee extras.
mortonjag 2009-11-02 06:47:00
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Nov 1 2009, 09:30 PM) [snapback]664585[/snapback]
Is it a wormhole to your basement?

I don't like the taste of old men! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-02 06:49:48
QUOTE(leyTON @ Nov 1 2009, 10:43 PM) [snapback]664608[/snapback]
what evidence suggests a reduction is the answer?
also expenses can be scrapped?
surely not?, who willpay the staff or buy the office equipment and rent?
plentyt hypocrisy on here aswell i reckon
many say that its wrong for the MPs to blame the system, but i reckon plenty on here if they could claim every mile of travel and a 2nd house would lap it up

As is biologically proven, two blacks do not make a white! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-02 06:54:23
QUOTE(capitanus @ Nov 1 2009, 10:42 PM) [snapback]664606[/snapback]
You can **** off with that suggestion for a start.

Teachers and Doctors get paid a very respectable amount for the jobs they do, so why should they get a freebie whenever a factory worker has to pay his own way?

Nobody on here has yet suggested allowing unemployed or homeless folk in for free. Surely someone who has lost his job or home in the current economic climate would be a wee bit more deserving than some middle class t*** from the Mearns with elbowpadded blazers and a Volvo.

Passe and inaccurate.

Wealthy middle aged and brown businessman in smart suit and tie and Merc! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-02 06:55:58
QUOTE(dmc @ Nov 1 2009, 11:09 PM) [snapback]664626[/snapback]
Totally agree! (almost)

Arseholes who think it's okay to go at speeds like that deserve more than 9 months !!!!

...and folk who travel at 71 m.p.h. should go to jail for a week? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-02 06:57:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Nov 2 2009, 03:47 AM) [snapback]664661[/snapback]
Britain's government will pour up to another 40 billion pounds into bailed out lenders Royal Bank of Scotland, Lloyds Banking Group and Northern Rock ahead of a planned selloff, newspapers said Monday.

The extra money will shore up the troubled banks as part of government plans to be announced this week to break up and sell off parts of the three lenders, the Daily Telegraph said.

Any Labour voters left ?

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Only those who still think they're voting for Harold Wilson.
mortonjag 2009-11-02 06:59:55 I have yet to be proved incorrect. If, however, that is your definition of 'Paradise' PD, your 'Hell' must be a pretty nasty place! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-02 07:10:49
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Nov 2 2009, 07:05 AM) [snapback]664677[/snapback]
Good to see you proving dunning's point...

...and you're a daft wee tool too! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-02 07:12:04
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 2 2009, 07:04 AM) [snapback]664676[/snapback]
...so how long does this usually take? Until whenever the crowds do rise I take it? Give it up, you've been proven wrong. Again happy.gif

You are a daft wee tool! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-02 07:16:14
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Nov 2 2009, 07:11 AM) [snapback]664679[/snapback]
Yep, you've got to be taking this malarkey all a bit too seriously if there are folk out there actually considering to 'boo' the team from the start on Saturday.

At least give it 5 minutes... ph34r.gif laugh.gif

The cowshed is not capable of a 'Moo', let alone a 'Boo' those days! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-02 08:39:37
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Nov 2 2009, 07:17 AM) [snapback]664682[/snapback]
Oh, someone's ratty this morning - calm down, dear.

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mortonjag 2009-11-02 08:42:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ Nov 2 2009, 08:39 AM) [snapback]664694[/snapback]
For those who are old enough to remember ...

In the late 1960s, many Scottish Liberals clamoured for an electoral pact with the SNP.

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If they'd been more liberal under the Tories they might have been in labour by now! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-02 10:33:48
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Nov 2 2009, 09:44 AM) [snapback]664709[/snapback]
If they do it in a 30mph zone, or passing a school as the kids are coming out, then yes they should.

I realise, jag, that you are normally non-specific on purpose (as in "Aahh, but I haven't been proved wrong yet - I didn't say WHEN crowds and results would pick up after Irons left, just that it WILL HAPPEN"), but there are times when it just smacks of carelessness on your part.

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You'll be suggesting I'm on speed next!
mortonjag 2009-11-02 10:35:09
QUOTE(ianton @ Nov 2 2009, 08:48 AM) [snapback]664700[/snapback]
A tools a useful thing.

A tool is useless without an operator!
mortonjag 2009-11-02 11:18:47
QUOTE(ianton @ Nov 2 2009, 11:17 AM) [snapback]664717[/snapback]
That's something he wouldn't make either. laugh.gif laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2009-11-02 11:56:11
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Nov 2 2009, 11:52 AM) [snapback]664730[/snapback]
Dressed as a homosexual again? Where's the imagination GG?

POUFFE!
mortonjag 2009-11-02 12:02:31
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Nov 2 2009, 11:53 AM) [snapback]664731[/snapback]
See how rumours start??

Ramsay apparently said in some interview that he'd like to buy a club like Morton, but it was more or less a throwaway line - to say "Rae knocked him back" is nonsense as Ramsay never approached the club.

And as for Ramsay buying the club being like Morton winning the lottery - errr, why, exactly? The quality of the pies might get better, but Ramsay's only football experience was as a schoolboy who never got close to playing for any senior team - why would we want him? All he might be able to offer is money - and I'd rather have someone else's, thanks very much.

Like a 78 year old confectioner whose only experience of balls is of the black strippit variety! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-02 12:03:47
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Nov 2 2009, 12:02 PM) [snapback]664737[/snapback]
That was the idea! rolleyes.gif

Did you git what you wanted?
mortonjag 2009-11-02 12:23:08
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Nov 2 2009, 12:21 PM) [snapback]664747[/snapback]
I would love a Pink set. They now do them in a lovely Purple colour. smile.gif

That's the varicose veins! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-02 12:54:48
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Nov 2 2009, 12:25 PM) [snapback]664751[/snapback]
Oh, and silent. I'm not going to cheer them as they haven't produced much worth a cheer under their stewardship.
To be fair, I suspect Grady would admit as much himself.

That'll be a welcome first SPARROT.
mortonjag 2009-11-02 12:56:26
QUOTE(Harelaw @ Nov 2 2009, 12:38 PM) [snapback]664757[/snapback]
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Ram your Curly Wurly up his erse! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-02 13:27:22
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 2 2009, 01:06 PM) [snapback]664767[/snapback]
CODE
Bugger, the wee sh1te has pulled me up on being completely wrong again...how many times will it take me to learn to shut my hole on the board?


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Wee s***e indeed PD! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-02 13:30:11
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Nov 2 2009, 01:19 PM) [snapback]664774[/snapback]
.......or, indeed, any allusion whatsoever to the occasions when he was wrong.

Typical jag tactics, that!! laugh.gif

It's very hard for ordinary mortals to cope with perfection, Percy! [attachment=5974:nono.gif]
mortonjag 2009-11-02 13:31:41
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Nov 2 2009, 01:22 PM) [snapback]664777[/snapback]
.......unless, of course, he's familiar with most of your postings on here....... laugh.gif

If he was my dear, we'd be in the SPL by now. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-02 13:34:48
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Nov 2 2009, 01:05 PM) [snapback]664765[/snapback]
Do they not fit into your manbag? unsure.gif

scrotum! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-02 13:36:39
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Nov 2 2009, 01:33 PM) [snapback]664785[/snapback]
I know. Pooter, and we appreciate that you're trying your best to do so....... tongue.gif


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QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 2 2009, 01:33 PM) [snapback]664786[/snapback]
Hence when your errors are shown you avoid them! wink.gif

I make no errors, PD! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-02 13:38:19
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 2 2009, 01:33 PM) [snapback]664784[/snapback]

The way Scottish football is going, that may soon be considered an achievement!
mortonjag 2009-11-02 13:39:06
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 2 2009, 01:38 PM) [snapback]664791[/snapback]
Source?

EH? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-02 13:52:14
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 2 2009, 01:39 PM) [snapback]664793[/snapback]
No it wouldn't. Wrong again smile.gif

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mortonjag 2009-11-02 13:54:40
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 2 2009, 01:53 PM) [snapback]664797[/snapback]
How many letters?

Stop skiving boy - when I was your age work MEANT work! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-02 15:02:35
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Nov 2 2009, 02:29 PM) [snapback]664804[/snapback]
As topic title indicates , need my passport photos signed asap

Can anyone help ?

Someone who has known you personally for at least three years, and is of 'standing' in society!
mortonjag 2009-11-02 15:03:56
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 2 2009, 01:57 PM) [snapback]664799[/snapback]
Still wrong smile.gif

Owe deer!
mortonjag 2009-11-02 15:04:46
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 2 2009, 01:59 PM) [snapback]664800[/snapback]
By work you mean pap them off to A and E? happy.gif

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You've been spying!
mortonjag 2009-11-02 15:07:05
QUOTE(Bryan @ Nov 2 2009, 02:16 PM) [snapback]664803[/snapback]
Why don't you ask your source where AD is rolleyes.gif

I KNOW where he is.

I know why he's there.

I'd like Shoogly to tell the world! [attachment=5975:hit.gif]
mortonjag 2009-11-02 16:51:05
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Nov 2 2009, 04:32 PM) [snapback]664826[/snapback]
Very good Mengele. And your next trick?

'Twas a comment. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-02 16:52:53
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Nov 2 2009, 04:49 PM) [snapback]664829[/snapback]
Shimmin is not injured and is available to play if selected - has been for a while.

He won't be selected.

MUNNY!

BTW you have a p.m.!
mortonjag 2009-11-02 19:39:49
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Nov 2 2009, 06:13 PM) [snapback]664867[/snapback]
perhaps his quibble is with the chairman?

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mortonjag 2009-11-02 19:43:40
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Nov 2 2009, 05:51 PM) [snapback]664854[/snapback]
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Have the prices at Cappielow suffered a deflation or did you crawl back under the stone you came from?

....from under which you came! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-02 19:47:03
QUOTE(Mr.Kennedy @ Nov 2 2009, 05:03 PM) [snapback]664840[/snapback]
She's got nice nostrils though...

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Fine if you're a dwarf with two knobs!
mortonjag 2009-11-02 19:55:28
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Nov 2 2009, 06:13 PM) [snapback]664868[/snapback]
That's not a quanitifiable statement, but the point behind it is that increased wages opens it up as a more inviting prospect for more memebers of society, of whom the best candidates ought to be chosen.
Are you trying to say that money is no pulling factor in careers?
Perhaps a Primary system for individual MP candidates like that in the US for the President could be brought in: in a much larger constituency the impact of cronyism would logically be diluted.

What a palpably ridiculous proposition. MPs are NOT employed in the normal sense of the word. They do not apply for jobs in the normal sense either. It could be said that they merely talk their way into power. I reckon that's where you're headed SPARROT and thank f*ck I'll be deid and buried first of I'd probably assassinate you.

IF, and only 'IF', there was an acceptable prerequisite qualification, as in the normal working environment, I'd perhaps agree, but even then £65,000 p.a. is a handsome income by most standards.
mortonjag 2009-11-02 19:59:40
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 2 2009, 07:49 PM) [snapback]664904[/snapback]
...from under whence you came! mad.gif

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mortonjag 2009-11-02 20:01:46
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Nov 2 2009, 08:00 PM) [snapback]664908[/snapback]
While I'll have to overlook your patently clear narrow-mindedness against non-qualified occupations, if you value representative democracy (and most people are in favour of it to a certain degree) then you need to improve the standard of representative. That is, they volunteer to be selected and elected, and by increasing the dosh the door is widened to more potential candidates.
More voter choice is the way forward: maybe the Jag can stand in his backyard if the pay is acceptable? laugh.gif

You have merely repeated yourself and it's patent crap.
mortonjag 2009-11-02 20:51:38
QUOTE(vespaton @ Nov 2 2009, 08:05 PM) [snapback]664911[/snapback]
not really....the poll shows the appointment of the management team is not exactly floating the Greenock Morton boat.

BP.

76 votes! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-02 20:54:01
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Nov 2 2009, 08:47 PM) [snapback]664930[/snapback]
The frustrating thing is that there has yet to be a very definitive answer about this situation from anyone at the club.

Would it really be hard to just come out and say that the player has seen specialists, has x wrong with him and will hopefully be available again at whatever time, if he is indeed injured?

It takes the piss to have such a good player out of the picture for what seems to be no good reason.

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Plus ca change Eeny!
mortonjag 2009-11-02 20:55:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 2 2009, 08:48 PM) [snapback]664932[/snapback]
...well?

I never divulge information passed to me as confidential! [attachment=5977:nono.gif]
mortonjag 2009-11-02 20:59:09
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Nov 2 2009, 08:21 PM) [snapback]664918[/snapback]
can you not just get tae feck.. you really are a first clss nob...

...who is studying politics, speaks in gobbledegook, and advocates increased salaries for MPs.

Which party do you imagine will first take him on? biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-02 21:00:24
QUOTE(NewTon @ Nov 2 2009, 08:38 PM) [snapback]664926[/snapback]
I have a mate who claims that there are 238 major films with a title that starts with "THE".

I can think of 63 easily enough, but are there really 238 ?

It seems a lot to me.

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Puggs starts every sentence with 'The'! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-02 21:02:56
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 2 2009, 08:59 PM) [snapback]664938[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

What's with the faces you leering young clown?

I've spent my whole life protecting confidential information - it's second nature to me.

I'd never dream of telling a soul about those genital warts I tried to burn off your knob. biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-02 21:04:37
QUOTE(port-ton @ Nov 2 2009, 09:00 PM) [snapback]664940[/snapback]
I'll always think you're sexier in a brian wake t-shirt. x
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Good God -it's that guy I met in the park.
mortonjag 2009-11-02 21:06:55
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 2 2009, 09:04 PM) [snapback]664942[/snapback]
No, you come on here and flirt with knowing little nuggets of information and then asked about them you sh1te right out of it.

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Stop the evasive tactics. Was your last test for HIV still inconclusive?
mortonjag 2009-11-02 21:08:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 2 2009, 09:06 PM) [snapback]664944[/snapback]
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I was trying to let you off the hook daftie.
mortonjag 2009-11-03 06:31:55
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Nov 2 2009, 10:52 PM) [snapback]664964[/snapback]
I'm sorry - you're obviously confusing me with someone who takes your opinion remotely seriously.
Try the psychiatric help ward, they might be able to sort you out.

Is that something else Mummy told you about SPARROT, or just another figment of your over fertile imagination? mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-03 06:38:25
QUOTE(port-ton @ Nov 2 2009, 10:23 PM) [snapback]664954[/snapback]
He is the only striker we have that can stretch a defence which gives players like Jenkins and dare i say it McGuffie space to run into. with our whole squad fully fit we're comfortably a better attacking team with Russell in the team. Its a travesty that he wasnt given more of a chance, and even more so that he was allowed to go out on loan.

Being offside when trying to get in behind the defence 5 times out of 6 is still much better than having the ball played into weathersons feet and seeing the wingers stand still, while the central midfielders run towards the ball and four defenders.


Seconded.


QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Nov 2 2009, 11:07 PM) [snapback]664965[/snapback]
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Is this really the retort of a self respecting retired professional man ? I would question the maturity of a 14 year old that found that to be an amusing reply.

And I would suggest that you extract your fat head from the depths of your rectum to accept the gong of Humourless Holy Willy of the Year! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-03 06:46:43


QUOTE(vespaton @ Nov 3 2009, 12:20 AM) [snapback]664976[/snapback]
Where you 1 of the boo boys when Davie Irons was manager ? bet some of your chums who will be applauding Grady were?

I have been a ton fan from 1977, my whole family support the ton, yes I remember the Andy Ritchie days... I can't accept Grady as manager and mcmanus as assistant simply because they are not good enough, plus the fact there seems to be a bit of sleeze about that duo, been reading this board for a while and not much said about DC a true Morton hero but when it comes to Grady (in the door for 5 mins) you lick his arse just like mortonjag and he wouldn't stop given (sheep lips) pelters, now he is mr nice guys as he has support for Grady, makes me sick.

We will be in the 2nd div next season , see if you applaud him then !!

BP.

Make you choke on it. dry.gif

QUOTE(delboy66 @ Nov 3 2009, 03:10 AM) [snapback]664992[/snapback]
He might not but i do because, i stay in the same scum town as this pair of back stabbing C...S. if GRADY was anymore up his own arse all you would see is two wee stumpy legs running about.
As for his skunk friend been on these threads before about him least said the better, this his going to end up in one F.....G big mess, thanks dougie second division here we come, & losing at Cappielow to Dumbarton in the cup.
Happy days guys nail the gates up right now & last one out turn the lights outs, nice new floodlights Dougie, where is the stand??? mad.gif

I can almost find a grain of agreement with you there. Where Morton is concerned Rae is bust.
mortonjag 2009-11-03 07:49:51
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 3 2009, 07:09 AM) [snapback]665001[/snapback]
Good morning Mortonjag.

Will you now answer Bryan's question?

Good morning poison dwarf.
NO! [attachment=5979:nono.gif]
mortonjag 2009-11-03 07:53:28 Leather the b*stards!
mortonjag 2009-11-03 09:09:24
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Nov 3 2009, 08:43 AM) [snapback]665007[/snapback]
Can't believe I'm defending Rae but what do you want him to do? He has plugged a £400k (that's four hundred thousand pounds in real money for those base their knowledge of football on Championship Manager) hole on the last published accounts with his own money. I've not seen the latest accounts but given the dip in crowds and the balls up with replica kits they could be even worse.
What are the options? Is there a queue of investers beating down his door that we don't know about? Rae can't continue to throw money at this huge white elephant forever. He'd be mad to do so.

I'm not involving myself in the emotive stuff Peter - merely stating a fact.
mortonjag 2009-11-03 09:11:18
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Nov 3 2009, 08:55 AM) [snapback]665012[/snapback]
Stop the evasive tactics... rolleyes.gif

Away and join Tweedledum! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-03 09:54:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 3 2009, 09:13 AM) [snapback]665017[/snapback]
As expected, sh1tting out it as usual.

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mortonjag 2009-11-03 09:57:41
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Nov 3 2009, 09:36 AM) [snapback]665021[/snapback]
Largely because of GMFC's staggering commercial incompetence and exceptional wasteage on the player and manager fronts. So let's not make Rae out to be an innocent party in accruing these losses, to the contrary.

SPARROT, if you'd worded that in acceptable English, I'd have given you a wee clap! smile.gif

QUOTE(ccc @ Nov 3 2009, 09:41 AM) [snapback]665022[/snapback]
Indeed. At least now he has learned his lesson and won't be lulled into taking on a manger he doesn't want on a long term deal.

If he has, and I'm not convinced, fair enough.

Should he not now be wooing a buyer at a realistic price? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-03 10:00:57
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Nov 3 2009, 09:27 AM) [snapback]665020[/snapback]
The article (about bullying in schools) makes no mention of the tawse. We had the tawse in my schooldays and in my recollection it had no effect whatsoever on the bullying and extortion rackets that were rife at the time.

The tawse used by your time Edwards would have made Whacko turn in his grave. I'm not talking about wee slaps over the wrist you know. Pink botty time is the ideal, AND in public! [attachment=5980:hit.gif]
mortonjag 2009-11-03 10:21:04
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Nov 3 2009, 10:05 AM) [snapback]665028[/snapback]
Pictures MJ sitting in the front row, box of tissues in one hand...........

No tissues in those days sonny boy - blazer sleeve in emergency! laugh.gif

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Nov 3 2009, 10:17 AM) [snapback]665030[/snapback]
And his tormentor in the other?

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mortonjag 2009-11-03 10:24:21
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Nov 3 2009, 10:05 AM) [snapback]665029[/snapback]
The Polite Way To Pee

During one of her daily classes, a teacher trying to teach good manners, asked one of her students the following question:"Michael, if you were on a date having dinner with a nice young lady, how would you tell her that you have to go to the bathroom?"

Michael said, "Just a minute, I have to go pee."
The teacher responded by saying, "That would be rude and impolite. What about you Sherman, how would you say it?"

Sherman said, "I am sorry, but I really need to go to the bathroom. I'll be right back."
"That's better, but it's still not very nice to say the word bathroom at the dinner table. And you, little Edwards, can you use your brain for once and show us your good manners?"
"I would say, 'Darling, may I please be excused for a moment? I have to shake hands with a very dear friend of mine who I hope to introduce you to after dinner.'"

The teacher fainted...

A socialite from an early age! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-03 10:49:38
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Nov 3 2009, 08:54 AM) [snapback]665010[/snapback]
Will he be better than any potential loan signing that we could bring in? I was hoping that Grady and McManus would be using all available contacts to try and bring a player or 2 in, but I was of the opinion that Alan Reid was a decent player when he trialled for us last season, certainly better than Chris Smith, who we signed instead of him.

I wouldn't be too downheartened.

He's another forward turned full back. I don't know how good he is but we certainly need full backs.
mortonjag 2009-11-03 11:24:23
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Nov 3 2009, 11:02 AM) [snapback]665040[/snapback]
makes a change!! tongue.gif

However, it's merely your REPRESENTATION, not a fact. Rae was apparently ready to pay over £30,000 to Stirling Albion last week for their manager. That's just one FACT that contradicts your assersion that "where Morton is concerned Rae is bust"

More arrant nonsense from your biased viewpoint, Pooter!

When he actually SPENDS some money Percy, I may revise my opinion. For the time being the fact is that he's spending zilch.

In my book that means he's either washed his hands of the club and should sell up, OR he's skint in Morton terms.

You may spin that as you choose, and I may describe your next frivolous attack on a legitimate statement as a 'misrepresentation of fact'! [attachment=5981:doh.gif]
mortonjag 2009-11-03 11:27:15
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Nov 3 2009, 11:04 AM) [snapback]665041[/snapback]
John Higgins

Balls
mortonjag 2009-11-03 11:54:24
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Nov 3 2009, 11:32 AM) [snapback]665045[/snapback]
It's only a month or so since he spent a lot of money to get rid of Irons and Collins.

Then last week he was willing to spend £30,000 to get Moore.

You really do talk a lot of codswallop, don't you? And that's a FACT!!!! tongue.gif

How much? rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(ccc @ Nov 3 2009, 11:40 AM) [snapback]665047[/snapback]
He is not skint. Only now he knows when to spend money, and how much is appropriate. £30k was a reasonable offer for Moore, he has shown now though that he won't be held to ransom (as he has been caught out with before).

He has told us repeatedly that his ambition has been to move Morton back to its rightful place in the top division in Scotland - alongside the likes of Hamilton, St. Mirren, St. Johnstone, and Falkirk.

IF, as you suggest, he's not skint (and I agree he's not on a personal assets basis) he's effectively admitting that he bit off far more than he could chew - his gross and incompetent mismanagement has not helped in that respect, though Shoogly would never admit that.

Either way the club is stagnant, and will remain so until more cash is found somewhere.
mortonjag 2009-11-03 12:33:19
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Nov 3 2009, 12:10 PM) [snapback]665055[/snapback]
It's all about budgets. In the close season we have made improvements to the pitch, installed floodlights and bought a stand off the midden.
So therefore the budget for the squad was always going to be tight, that's why we are operating with a small squad of players.
To compound matters we have had to pay off Irons and Collins, possibly to the tune of £80k-£100k.

So we are now left in a situation where funds are extremely tight. It doesn't mean Douglas Rae is skint or funds won't be made available in the future.
But for this season and possibly next we will have to live within our means. A reality all fans will have to accept !

We could perhaps ask Uncle Donald for another sub - he's still a director! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-03 12:59:43
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Nov 3 2009, 12:35 PM) [snapback]665060[/snapback]
I've given up on Uncle Donald. dry.gif

Many appear to have done so, yet he is still a director, and I believe he's got lots of MUNNY! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-03 13:01:46 Morton on THE way back. (2003)! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-03 13:50:00
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 3 2009, 01:21 PM) [snapback]665074[/snapback]
Answer the question

OK then smart arse

Not at Cappielow! [attachment=5982:nono.gif]
mortonjag 2009-11-03 13:51:28
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Nov 3 2009, 01:09 PM) [snapback]665069[/snapback]
I'm sure he is and he has. But unless he parts with his "munny" soon, he ain't helpin the cause.... rolleyes.gif

Maybe it depends on how much MUNNY he'd like to part with and to what end! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-03 13:53:01
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Nov 3 2009, 01:27 PM) [snapback]665076[/snapback]
Personally I'd rather feel Happy....... or, even better, Snow White wub.gif

Dopey's got a hard on! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-03 13:54:20
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Nov 3 2009, 01:16 PM) [snapback]665072[/snapback]
These are the latest staistics on crime that I can find, as published by the Scottish Government:

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Resource/Doc/214670/0057270.pdf

Browse, interpret and comment at your convenience. I've noted some points of interest:

1. Crime was at its lowest in the 1930s.
2. Crime started rising steadily in the 1960s, peaking in the 1990s, and seems to have levelled out since.
3. The overall crime rate in Inverclyde is the 8th highest in Scotland, behind Glasgow (1st), Aberdeen, Dundee, Edinburgh, Clackmannanshire, West Dunbartonshire and (only by one point) Refrewshire.
4.Inverclyde has the 3rd highest rate of serious assault (a category including murder) behind Glasgow (1st) and West Dunbartonshire.
5. 53% of all crimes and 40% of serious assaults result in no conviction.

Regarding points 1 and 2, the hangers and floggers among us can comment that corporal and capital punishment might have been the influential factors. Alternatively the pinkos can suggest that despite the poverty (real, not relative) and mass unemployment prevalent in the 30s there was more sense of community and less social division. Other factors that might be considered relevant are declines in: religion and/or moral values, marriage and the nuclear family.

It can be seen that as society in general has become more affluent and materialistic, crime has risen substantially, particularly during the Thatcher heyday years. Attitudes like 'Man mind thyself' individualism and the concentration on rights rather than responsibilities, commonly found in affluent classes as well as the under class, may have particular relevance.

I think point 5 is probably the most telling of all. Commit a crime and you seem to have a 50% chance of getting away with it. More and better Polis would seem a simple solution to that.


Statistics prove f*ck all. Flog the c*nts! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-03 13:58:22
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Nov 3 2009, 01:56 PM) [snapback]665090[/snapback]
YAWN....... if this were the old Glasgow Empire Theatre, long before now there would've been a big long pole with a hook on the end coming out from the wings and hauling you aff the stage.......

Honestly, you're beginning to give tedium a bad name. mad.gif

You appear to imagine that my suggestion was a silly one Percy.

More fool you dear! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-03 13:59:18
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 3 2009, 01:57 PM) [snapback]665092[/snapback]
Now ACTUALLY answer the question.

Incase your senile old mind can't comprehend it, Bryan asked where is is. Not where he isn't.

Do try and keep up!

Is is where is is! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-03 14:00:44
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 3 2009, 01:59 PM) [snapback]665094[/snapback]
That wouldn't bode well for you.

Liars can tried and convicted.

And the way you have been going lately you are the biggest liar on here smile.gif

Careful young man or I'll have you sued for defamation of character! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-03 14:03:37
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 3 2009, 02:00 PM) [snapback]665097[/snapback]
Please, answer the question and don't try and turn it around on to my typing errors.
...I'm keeping at you until you give an answer!

Then you're flogging a dead horse! I appreciate that you are semi literate, but surely the statement that 'I do not divulge confidential information' is not too difficult to comprehend, even for your microscopic cranium. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-03 14:05:29
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 3 2009, 02:00 PM) [snapback]665098[/snapback]
Please answer Bryan's question!
We all wait!

You've had your answer son.

Confidential information remains confidential with the Jag, as my many reliable sources appreciate. [attachment=5983:secret.gif]
mortonjag 2009-11-03 14:07:08
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 3 2009, 02:04 PM) [snapback]665101[/snapback]
You're doing a good enough job yourself smile.gif

I am a retired gentleman. Would that you'd apply yourself to your work instead of cheating on your employer! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-03 14:10:33
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Nov 3 2009, 02:06 PM) [snapback]665103[/snapback]
You're missing (or maybe evading) the point yet again.

Whether or not AD puts money into Morton in the future, it will/won't happen irrespective of it being debated on this forum ad nausaem.

I'm sick of you wittering on about the guy without saying anything sensible, concrete or definitive and I wish you'd give it - and us - a rest.

Then why don't you ask yourself why I upset you so much, Percy my dear. You really shouldn't let a pompous old pouffe rattle your complacent self satisfaction. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-03 14:12:18
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 3 2009, 02:06 PM) [snapback]665104[/snapback]
"Not at cappielow" does not answer the question.

Basically you have been shown up as the odious decrepit old fvckwit you are. Now please run along and leave the site, or answer the question and I'll leave you alone smile.gif

The truth dawns! laugh.gif

QUOTE(maccaboy @ Nov 3 2009, 02:08 PM) [snapback]665106[/snapback]
GOOD. Now will you stop yelping on about him for a while???

I'm sure I'm not the only one who wonders Percy! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-03 14:13:17
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Nov 3 2009, 02:12 PM) [snapback]665110[/snapback]
ah, you still remember those, do you? laugh.gif

Indeed - there were seven of them.
mortonjag 2009-11-03 14:14:15
QUOTE(Marc @ Nov 3 2009, 02:13 PM) [snapback]665111[/snapback]
Puggsy ton - you seem obsessed with Mortonjag, there is absolutely no need for this thread whatsoever.

He's been banned from my cellar and in a huge cream puff! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-03 14:43:13
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Nov 3 2009, 02:29 PM) [snapback]665118[/snapback]
ohmy.gif you only had seven hard-ons in your life?? Poor you, that explains a lot....... tongue.gif

Viagra my dear! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-03 14:56:41
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Nov 3 2009, 02:43 PM) [snapback]665121[/snapback]
I'm inclined to agree with this. I can't really have much sympathy for Rae having to "bail us out" when he's continuously making a royal balls-up of everything. If he ever decides he wants to run the club professionally instead of like a wee sweety shop, then fair enough. At the very least, he could minimise his own investments by displaying a semblance of competence now and again.
As for Grady and McManus, I'll be remaining silent. I'll continue to support the team, but there is a difference between that and a sound-byte if/when those twos names are announced.
PS - does every thread really need to descend in to a little 3 or 4 way duel with mortonjag involving loads of smilies and petty jabs? rolleyes.gif

Takes two to tango! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-03 14:57:59
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Nov 3 2009, 02:49 PM) [snapback]665122[/snapback]
May I ask then, just out of interest, what did you hope to gain by announcing to us all that you know, when you have no intention of telling us all what you know.

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Not unless you're prepared to give an answer!
mortonjag 2009-11-03 14:59:33
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Nov 3 2009, 02:26 PM) [snapback]665117[/snapback]
Any effect of the recent increase in police numbers has yet to be established. The stats only extend to 2006/7.
They don't prove causal links, nevertheless they are, to the best of our knowledge, factual rather than speculative.

And widely subject to misinterpretation for political ends.
mortonjag 2009-11-03 15:11:56
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Nov 3 2009, 03:09 PM) [snapback]665128[/snapback]
wtf!

I almost feel sorry for you.

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mortonjag 2009-11-03 15:16:27
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Nov 3 2009, 03:13 PM) [snapback]665130[/snapback]
typical of him - he'll always use obfuscation, deflection, attack or abuse whenever things get uncomfortable. Anything bar a direct answer. laugh.gif

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I do not divulge confidential information Percy. I do know the whereabouts of Uncle Donald! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-03 15:26:44
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Nov 3 2009, 03:19 PM) [snapback]665133[/snapback]
I DON'T CARE!!

Gie's peace.......

Good!
mortonjag 2009-11-03 15:27:34
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Nov 3 2009, 03:24 PM) [snapback]665135[/snapback]
and then there were five....... tongue.gif

Gie's peace! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-03 15:28:44
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Nov 3 2009, 03:17 PM) [snapback]665132[/snapback]
CORRECTION....... you only had seven hard-ons in your life and none at all pre-Viagra?? Poor you, that explains a lot....... laugh.gif

It took years to have the patent approved.
mortonjag 2009-11-03 15:32:50
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Nov 3 2009, 03:27 PM) [snapback]665139[/snapback]
Do you really suppose that we actually care what you think you know?

Oh and that was a hypothetical question so there is no need for you to go to the bother of evading it, you can instead, just shut the **** up.

No I don't. It's been obvious to me for some time, however, that certain posters are obsessed with my inevitably wise and informative comments. When Mortonjag posts they feel bound to make a response. I am highly honoured by this unwarranted interest in my humble observations. huh.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-03 15:51:09
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Nov 3 2009, 03:48 PM) [snapback]665143[/snapback]
Quite a few posters seem to have an obsession with him, but I don't think Puggsy's one of them; Mortonjag's made a statement which he isn't prepared to prove, so he's being called out over it. Fair enough I say.

We're waiting for your answer MJ.

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Enjoy your wait!
mortonjag 2009-11-04 07:52:10
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Nov 4 2009, 07:48 AM) [snapback]665287[/snapback]
Yes or maybe no. I don't know. laugh.gif
MJ doesn't NEED nappies though, he only wears them as a fetish. ohmy.gif rip.gif

...on Saturday evenings Peter - remember! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-04 07:53:41
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 3 2009, 05:15 PM) [snapback]665165[/snapback]
Takes even longer for you to answer a question!

Get knotted ya wee tube.
mortonjag 2009-11-04 07:55:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 3 2009, 10:36 PM) [snapback]665230[/snapback]
You'll have had a good sleep and be up before the dew has setteled, so that is plenty of time...please answer smile.gif

It only gets worse! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-04 08:02:48 Not the King James Version

And I'm wondering what would have happened if they'd done that to yon other prophet! blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-04 16:16:00
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Nov 4 2009, 10:40 AM) [snapback]665317[/snapback]
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"moronjag in verbal vasectomy shocker......."

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mortonjag 2009-11-04 16:19:12
QUOTE(nach0king @ Nov 4 2009, 02:06 PM) [snapback]665358[/snapback]
There's a breed of doctor who are in the profession largely for the status that it brings, and having valuable information to share over a whisky is another little perk. It's also tolerated. If MJ was in a business where confidentially really mattered he would never have lasted.

In other words, I don't think this was a product of retirement.

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mortonjag 2009-11-05 07:53:06 Under normal circumstances, I would be clamouring for action bearing in mind I was warned for using the exact same insult to another Morton fan. However, on this occasion, I have to agree. Good point well made smile.gif.
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[codebox]Drunken Ned in ill disguised attempt to land PD in the jobbies![/codebox]
mortonjag 2009-11-05 07:57:08 I saw this video and thought of a one time football manager. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-05 08:01:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Nov 5 2009, 01:20 AM) [snapback]665509[/snapback]
I was surprised to see that Oz imports 7mm laminate flooring from Belgium.

Is it real rubbish as it is only 10 pounds per square metre ?

Whilst select grade timber is 3 or 4 times as much.
www.floormania.com.au

You pays your money and you gets your choice Newt. Ten G.B.P per sq. m. for laminate can get you reasonable stuff if you shop around, but you can pay twice as much for really well machined material and it's much easier to lay.
mortonjag 2009-11-05 08:02:41
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Nov 5 2009, 07:55 AM) [snapback]665523[/snapback]
I have no belief in supernatural gods whatsoever and I love Christmas.

...but I take my mirror everywhere!
mortonjag 2009-11-05 08:09:06
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Nov 4 2009, 06:57 PM) [snapback]665427[/snapback]
Really? Feel free to provide examples of major sporting events partaking in silences this week, NOT on Sunday or the 11th.

Your persistently unsavoury ageism is bad enough SPARROT, but you've gone a step too far on this one. There are still folk alive who lost loved ones in the last World War - brave lads, (many younger than you) who gave their lives fighting for their country, and for YOUR freedom to insult their memory.

POOR SHOW. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-05 08:12:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Nov 5 2009, 08:00 AM) [snapback]665525[/snapback]
Morton 8 Hamilton 0

One of my favourite matches in that wonderful November of 1963.

If only JFK had crossed the Irish Sea.

The previous Saturday match wasn't bad, but I wasn't there.

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Forfar 4 Morton 6

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Newt talking crap as usual. Your memory's shot to pieces old man. How could Morton possibly beat an SPL club 8 - 0? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-05 10:20:46
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 5 2009, 10:12 AM) [snapback]665562[/snapback]
Will today be the day?

You're like a wean pestering Mummy for sweeties!

Mummy knows what's best PD. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-05 10:23:15
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Nov 5 2009, 10:08 AM) [snapback]665561[/snapback]
Couldn't have put it better myself.

TonInDublin

Hey TiD - did you get my P.M? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-05 10:25:41
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Nov 5 2009, 08:16 AM) [snapback]665534[/snapback]
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And this coming from a pensioner who constantly bullies a 19 year old!!! Excellent stuff Douglas. I'm off to Leeds in a minute and I'll be smiling all the way there. Many thanks.

Nineteen year olds were regarded as MEN during the war. No need to wrap your little bum chum up in Andrex, Peter. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-05 10:29:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Nov 5 2009, 08:16 AM) [snapback]665533[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I was there.

I think Alibi was there.

Were you on duty, MJ ?

Or too busy studying ??

I do remember it Newt. We were flying in those days, and you just knew we'd score at least three. My old Uncle Jimmy gave me a bar of Dairy Milk (eight squares, if you recall) before the match, and I jokingly said I'd only eat one for each Morton goal.

'Twas indeed a goal feast! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-05 11:17:00 JG hasn't has his troubles to seek! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-05 11:19:30
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 5 2009, 10:22 AM) [snapback]665566[/snapback]
!!!
I'm not letting up. If you are going to ponce about on here thinking you know everything I am going to make sure you back up your claims for once!

Are you indeed?

I do not divulge confidential information PD, nor have I ever! blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-05 11:20:39
QUOTE(nach0king @ Nov 5 2009, 11:15 AM) [snapback]665586[/snapback]
At no point does he mention the interference of theists in public policy based on their delusions, which is what I (as an atheist) find most distressing. I really don't care about what any given individual thinks or worships. Just keep it out of law, school, and court, and we're good.

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mortonjag 2009-11-05 11:21:40
QUOTE(Thrax @ Nov 5 2009, 10:48 AM) [snapback]665576[/snapback]
you telling on puggs? laugh.gif tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2009-11-05 11:37:10
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Nov 5 2009, 11:18 AM) [snapback]665590[/snapback]
Now that swine flu vaccinations are underway, how confident are you in the safety of the vaccination ? given the serious side effects it can have, and the limited time the u.k 'tested' it, are you sure it is the right thing to do, have read about the additives in it being the link / cause of gulf war syndrome also .. what do you think ?

For people who are liable to have complications if they contract Swine Flu, the very small risk is well worth taking. For the rest it's a personal choice. The risk IS very small.
mortonjag 2009-11-05 11:38:57
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Nov 5 2009, 11:25 AM) [snapback]665596[/snapback]
You were happy to divulge the confidential information that Irons would be sacked in May.

I never divulge confidential information.
mortonjag 2009-11-05 12:39:56
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Nov 5 2009, 11:47 AM) [snapback]665612[/snapback]
Evidently you do.

I do not! laugh.gif

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 5 2009, 11:50 AM) [snapback]665616[/snapback]
laugh.gif

Please see further up regarding the record shop women.
Now answer!

Smeggy has a very fertile imagination! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-05 12:43:25
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Nov 5 2009, 12:30 PM) [snapback]665634[/snapback]
What a crock of s*** laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif I doubt that very much, but if it gets that free loader out of Cappielow then I hope your right and he throws his "millions" tongue.gif laugh.gif into Rangers

Hmm-somewhat disrespectful of a Club Director I'd suggest, Measles! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-05 15:29:40
QUOTE(Thrax @ Nov 5 2009, 12:55 PM) [snapback]665648[/snapback]
Can I have a nickname? rolleyes.gif

You are far to pleasant to me! smile.gif

QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Nov 5 2009, 01:20 PM) [snapback]665669[/snapback]
I want one too!

...and so are you! smile.gif

QUOTE(nach0king @ Nov 5 2009, 02:05 PM) [snapback]665707[/snapback]
So you're denying that you posted a load of identifiable details about a girl who worked in the used record shop on Byres Road, including her mental health history?

...and you are not Smeggy!

I do not, will not, and have never disclosed confidential information. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-05 15:42:40
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Nov 5 2009, 03:21 PM) [snapback]665731[/snapback]
is it really doc.. beacuse the seriously the pressure of making the choice, not for me but family memebr is scaring me, theres the issue with gb syndrome, and what can trigger this, someone who is prone to chest infections (almost has chest infection constantly.. due to asthma and other factors.. not smoking.. never has), I really dont know what to do for best.. my girlfriend had it done 2 days ago, and is still feeling unwell.. no energy and aching bones/joints....has there been changes to this vaccine from the one used in 1976 in usa ?

I think that completely healthy and robust adults may well be wasting public money on this wave of media driven hysteria. In statistical terms, however, the risk to any such person is still well outweighed by the risk if the bug is contracted.

That's about as good as you're going to get from any doc. I'm afraid. At the end of the day it's up to the individual to make the choice.

I once had this patient - Smegma Stinkhelmut - I don't accurately recall his date of birth, but the poor chap was only in his late twenties. Smegma came from the West End of Greenock - a podgy chap who overindulged on his triglycerides as I recall. Unfortunately poor Smegma's coronary arteries were so clogged that any extra strain on his cardiovascular system was liable to throw him into fatal heart failure. (at least that's what the pathology report said).

You've guessed - he declined the Swine Flu jab claiming that he was a fit as a fiddle, and in any case wasn't really a pig.

The virus won!

All names and details are false to protect confidentiality. wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-05 16:19:27
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Nov 5 2009, 03:53 PM) [snapback]665737[/snapback]
* - .......THIS time.
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I do not understand that comment Percy. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-05 16:21:12
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Nov 5 2009, 04:15 PM) [snapback]665743[/snapback]
Indeed! People just like fireworks, really, I don't see why there has to be a great underlying reason, regardless of whatever happened a couple of centuries ago smile.gif

Fireworks displays can be very attractive.
mortonjag 2009-11-05 16:25:30 Who'd trust this leering buffoon anyway?
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Really?
mortonjag 2009-11-05 16:35:24
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Nov 5 2009, 04:32 PM) [snapback]665756[/snapback]
Smaller countries than Scotland will come out of the reccession before britain.

The USA,France and Germany are aleady out of reccession also.

...but Spurtle - just look at that picture - the camera doesn't lie, and that's a cretin if ever I saw one. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-06 07:44:14
QUOTE(nach0king @ Nov 5 2009, 06:38 PM) [snapback]665817[/snapback]
You said I had a fertile imagination, impyling that I'm making this up.

Putting aside whether or not you think you were breaching confidentiality here - are you denying what I'm saying, namely that you posted details about a mentally ill woman who worked in a record shop on Byres Road that would have rendered her easily identifiable?

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif Putting aside nothing Smeggy. You are a silly wee boy at times. I exhort you to grow up.



Anyway, back on topic. This all started NOT because Mortonjag knows something and wants to rub others' petty brown noses in it. There was a legitimate reason.

AD is a Director of our club. He has recently come in for a huge amount of speculative criticism and unwarranted comments from certain posters - particularly those with a vested interest in the Trusssssssssssht - and of course from Shoogly's propaganda machine.

It could be that Uncle Donald is a latter day Hugh Scott. I do not believe that for one minute.

On the basis of information supplied to me in confidence by a hitherto entirely reliable source, I responded to a particularly unpleasant comment about AD having 'ridden off into the sunset'.

I did so because I believe that it is wrong that our club Director should be vilified by a shower of gossip merchants with a poorly hidden agenda.

I'm glad that Smegma and the little poison dwarf, and have brought the topic into the public realm. Many thanks to you both.

I DO know where AD is, and I DON'T and WON'T believe any of the splurge supplied by the Raemanian S.S. and Duncan's Fudge Factory UNTIL I SEE PROOF.

Far from Mortonjag 'putting up or shutting up', Mortonjag is seriously concerned that we are now going NOWHERE with Douglas Rae. In his own way he's done his best, but the train has hit the buffers and Shoogly's still flogging the fireman.

Think about this. If Shoogly has 'frightened off' Uncle Donald, and if Uncle Donald's intentions (and previous generosity) have been genuine - as I understand them to have been, Rae's egomania may well have set us back another ten years -perhaps even worse.

I don't believe the old codger will really want to be remembered for that. The truth will inevitably surface. mellow.gif



mortonjag 2009-11-06 22:23:07
QUOTE(cod gib @ Nov 6 2009, 06:15 PM) [snapback]666192[/snapback]
I can't believe that this guy is still getting people on here to bite at his wee secret nuggets, being someone who has had the misfortune to find out some of the stuff he keeps harking on about I can tell you most of it is complete gash and the stuff that is true isn't going to set the heather on fire. His medical knowledge is also suspect as I passed on a quote from him to a real doctor who couldn't stop laughing after I told him it was a retired gp who had written it.

Was that the psychiatrist who pronounced you fit to plead?
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mortonjag 2009-11-07 06:26:28
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Nov 6 2009, 03:42 PM) [snapback]666151[/snapback]
Shoogilyaphobia fear of DDFR's managerial appointments .

Raemaniaphobia to be precise Chris! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-07 06:29:23
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Nov 7 2009, 02:03 AM) [snapback]666249[/snapback]
Tell me, who the f u c k died and made you the Governor LCM?

Don't let Narcissus wind you up - I reckon he's not had his hole recently. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-07 06:38:20
QUOTE(bilco @ Nov 7 2009, 02:27 AM) [snapback]666260[/snapback]
agree 100%
was a nice touch and shows he has respct for his elders blush.gif

A lesson many of our posters should take on board! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-07 06:40:05
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Nov 5 2009, 01:45 PM) [snapback]665691[/snapback]
No doubt he'll be responsible for a few - if we draw Threave Rovers in the cup!
Always assuming, of course, that we can manage to scrape past Dumbarton.......

Indeed - I reckon the Ton players will f*ckin' mutilate him! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-07 06:42:09 Well they say football's a funny old game. It's quite possible that we'll beat the Jags today with a solitary goal from Mr Grady. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-07 06:45:27
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Nov 7 2009, 03:08 AM) [snapback]666265[/snapback]
I'm kinda on board. Expected no less than negative, whining pish from on here though. Is it part of getting old that things that were once good become s***? Seems to be.

In Morton terms - AYE! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-07 06:50:39
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Nov 6 2009, 09:59 PM) [snapback]666221[/snapback]

Rearrange the letters of this well known phrase-

Toad in the hole.
mortonjag 2009-11-07 07:25:53 Not a topic for the ordinary board, where the average age appears inversely proportional to the average IQ! ph34r.gif

For many years now I've derived a lot of pleasure from DIY, and for the last five I've been able to concentrate on the B & Q version!

I guess the tradesmen on the forum (I assume we must have some) will tell me I'm crazy, but if I could do it all over again I'd go nowhere near University, and get myself a decent apprenticeship.

The reward is in the end product. You make something happen and the evidence is there for all to see.

General Practice is in my opinion one of the most overrated careers. It's a constant battle against time, unreasonable expectations, and political interference. When you get it right there is no thanks. Let's face it Docs ain't allowed to get things wrong!

Don't misunderstand me - I enjoyed much of my work, but in retrospect I think I'd happily have earned ten times as much running my own wee electrical business or whatever!

Respect for the professions has gone anyway. Today money is the measure of success. Is that the way it was meant to be? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-07 10:28:19
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Nov 7 2009, 09:04 AM) [snapback]666289[/snapback]
You reckon wrong - again.

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mortonjag 2009-11-07 10:34:58
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Nov 7 2009, 09:06 AM) [snapback]666290[/snapback]
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Good call.

Indeed - he was a good football manager and is, I believe, a good publican! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-07 10:41:16
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Nov 7 2009, 10:33 AM) [snapback]666303[/snapback]

What a let down Spurtle - I was expecting to see Auntie Annabel slay Bawheid (claymore and all) with one swipe of her tongue!
mortonjag 2009-11-07 10:51:17
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Nov 7 2009, 10:47 AM) [snapback]666307[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Nov 7 2009, 10:25 AM) [snapback]666300[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Its the free McAlister tinted glasses the turnstile boys hand out at the gate !

I don't wear them myself dry.gif

I've never worn them. dry.gif

He's been a huge disappointment this season.

Mind you, there's always today! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-07 10:53:17
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 7 2009, 10:48 AM) [snapback]666308[/snapback]
Don't ask me, I never went to a proper uni, yet thoroughly enjoy the job I have gotten due to my degree smile.gif

...and hope to one day master my native language! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-07 11:05:19
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Nov 7 2009, 10:56 AM) [snapback]666311[/snapback]
He's been a huge disappointment since our return to the 1st div!

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....but there's always today!
mortonjag 2009-11-07 12:26:49
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 7 2009, 11:09 AM) [snapback]666317[/snapback]

I'm not talking about semantic change in your case PD.

Perhaps culpable prosicide is the appropriate term! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-07 12:34:31
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 7 2009, 11:40 AM) [snapback]666329[/snapback]
Erm.....I have? For about 3 days

OK poison dwarf - I'll give you an answer to shut you up.
Happy now?
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mortonjag 2009-11-07 12:36:21
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Nov 7 2009, 12:23 PM) [snapback]666340[/snapback]
You trying to make a point here or is it just more peurile pish? rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2009-11-07 12:37:34
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Nov 7 2009, 12:24 PM) [snapback]666342[/snapback]
Not so useful unsure.gif

A monkey can play the pipes! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-07 12:38:49
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Nov 7 2009, 11:24 AM) [snapback]666324[/snapback]
huh.gif

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mortonjag 2009-11-07 12:42:18
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Nov 7 2009, 12:30 PM) [snapback]666346[/snapback]
What I don't understand is half the posts in this thread. blink.gif

Smeggy told Shoogly it would keep us on track.
steamin'
mortonjag 2009-11-07 12:44:34
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Nov 4 2009, 08:09 PM) [snapback]665449[/snapback]
the best form of defence is attack

the defence is being bombarded as the midfield and forwards are not keeping the ball higher up the pitch

in summary, we are s***e from back to front

ETIHS? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-07 12:48:01
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Nov 7 2009, 12:37 PM) [snapback]666349[/snapback]
Well pug huve ye finished yer chug yet??



Why are pics no working unsure.gif

Somebody called them spades? blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-07 12:50:25 Fit or unfit?
mortonjag 2009-11-07 12:51:28
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Nov 7 2009, 12:49 PM) [snapback]666360[/snapback]
Damage limitation until we get a few off the sick list.

I'll have a word with the Doc! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-07 12:53:50
I reckon if fully fit Jenkins should be our most effective.

In terms of footballing ability I'd suggest Spoonsy.
mortonjag 2009-11-07 12:59:46
QUOTE(mortonfc123 @ Nov 7 2009, 12:57 PM) [snapback]666370[/snapback]
does it matter

Aye son - if you're older than 60 or under 16 you get accused of wearing nappies! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-07 13:10:36 I haven't read the full thread, but the suggestion appears to be that Shimmin's fit but refusing to play. In that case he's in breach of contract, so why pay him?

But wait - is he submitting medical certificates confirming that he's unfit?

If so, I'd like to see what they say, and who's been signing them! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-08 08:20:38
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Nov 7 2009, 01:51 PM) [snapback]666394[/snapback]
The only person on the board (and maybe in all of Scotland) who fantasises about what Annabel Goldie can do with her tongue.......

My source at Holyrood confirms that Auntie Annabel's tongue has oft produced an ejaculation from Bawheid.
mortonjag 2009-11-08 08:22:32
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Nov 7 2009, 05:17 PM) [snapback]666484[/snapback]
Sheesh, you ought to give up.

It was perfectly possible SPARROT! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-08 08:24:40
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Nov 7 2009, 06:52 PM) [snapback]666565[/snapback]
MJ,

Nice to see you today all cosy with the injured Morton players today at the back of the stand.
your looking well ....

Jim

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We had a nice wee chat about many things!
mortonjag 2009-11-08 08:32:10 A moral victory yesterday with a decimated squad so far as I read it.

At half time I felt certain we'd take the points, and at full time, Colin Stewart still hadn't had to pull off a save. The same could not be said of Tuffey, and we had three goal bound efforts cleared by defenders.

JG has had rotten luck since he took over, and I'm sure that's about to change.
mortonjag 2009-11-08 08:34:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Nov 8 2009, 08:27 AM) [snapback]666739[/snapback]
Whit's wrong with Rob Roy ???

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He's a MacGregor! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-08 08:51:05
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 8 2009, 08:44 AM) [snapback]666750[/snapback]
It's also quite possible you will answer this
...doesn't meant it will happen

Dwarf - you have been told that I never disclose information passed to me as confidential. I never have (still waiting on smelly wee Smeggy to produce his case for the prosecution), and I NEVER will.

I realise you're not particularly bright, and have tried to make allowances for that, but your persistence is merely highlighting the fact that you're a loser. smile.gif

mortonjag 2009-11-08 11:46:07
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Nov 8 2009, 08:57 AM) [snapback]666752[/snapback]
In that cold yesterday you would have been well advised to cover up your baldy wee head......

I still have some hair! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-08 11:48:41
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 8 2009, 08:59 AM) [snapback]666754[/snapback]
No, you don't. What you do is use this 'confidential information' and let just enough out on here so that people stand up and take notice of you and you love it.

Because in your mind you think knowledge is power which leads to respect. At a basic play ground level it is like one child going up to another and saying 'I know something you don't know' and when they other child asks what it is you reply 'I'm not telling you' and walk away.

So this is why I am being persistent. I'm highlighting the above to everyone as I'm sure your 'sources' would love the way you drop these little nuggets of 'confidential' information.

And it is very cute that, once more, when you have nothing else to say you result to name calling - both to myself and Nacho. I think this is most likely because you are a hurt and sad old man with not too much better to do with himself than sit for hour upon hour on a largely anonymous internet message board and ridicule those you perceive to be beneath you.
Now...will you finally answer Bryan's question? Because frankly I'd be very interested in what you seem to think and why Bryan seems to think differently. Maybe his sources are better smile.gif

Thank you dwarf.

You have answered your own question. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-08 11:49:51
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Nov 8 2009, 10:32 AM) [snapback]666769[/snapback]
None taken mate.

TonInDublin

You have email! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-08 11:52:19
QUOTE(C B @ Nov 8 2009, 09:57 AM) [snapback]666764[/snapback]
Change the record MJ or start having a lie in on a Sunday !!

You are like a modern day James Sanderson - at least predict we'll lose so we may have a chance of the win ph34r.gif

Very good my friend.

Everything in the Gardyne is rosy!

The Jag is normally correct. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-09 07:37:42
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 8 2009, 03:16 PM) [snapback]666882[/snapback]
Care to take any part of my post in to consideration and perhaps comment on it?
Please, don't talk about mortonjag like that! mad.gif


I've taken the whole substance of all of your posts on this topic into consideration PD. Here is my comment, and apropos yours, it's another question! mad.gif

When are you going to reply to the pm I sent you many moons ago? It followed another series of your persistent anti - Jag posts. 'Pot, kettle, and black' may jog your memory. You promised a reply - then kept putting it off 'because you were busy'. I accepted that you probably had good reason for not replying (that you hadn't a sensible answer) so I let it drop at the time.

So PD- here's the scenario. Somebody bad mouthed AD and suggested he'd f*cked off. I countered that by saying that I know where he is. That was all. I promised nothing.

Sometimes you are an irritating little tit Puggs. I've said before that you never contribute a thought provoking post or topic, yet again you've hiked up your post count with pointless pesteration, aided and abetted by a few sad sack accomplices. You have a brazen cheek to blubber about 'name calling', and in any event all of my affectionate nicknames are carefully chosen to reflect the character of the bearer. That is WHY you are the 'Poison Dwarf'.

Your raison d'etre is to gratuitously attack posters you could never match face to face.

When your bluff is called, however, you show your true colours:




[spoiler]Cowardy, cowardy custard![/spoiler]
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mortonjag 2009-11-14 18:06:46
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Nov 8 2009, 08:32 AM) [snapback]666740[/snapback]
A moral victory yesterday with a decimated squad so far as I read it.

At half time I felt certain we'd take the points, and at full time, Colin Stewart still hadn't had to pull off a save. The same could not be said of Tuffey, and we had three goal bound efforts cleared by defenders.

JG has had rotten luck since he took over, and I'm sure that's about to change.

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mortonjag 2009-11-16 08:17:46 BTT!

Yet again Jaggy is proved correct, and yet again his postings are adulterated by the usual angst ridden plankton! Mortonjag accepts that it's free therapy for the weans so it's not begrudged! wub.gif


The point WAS of course that we'd been knocking at the door of another victory for several matches despite Grady's resources being stretched to the limit, and that we HAD had very poor fortune.

On a slightly different note, if Allan Moore had been in the dug out on Saturday and produced an identical result, perhaps the cowshed might finally have stirred from its Rae engendered paralysis.

I have a good feeling about James Grady.

Time will tell. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-16 08:28:34
QUOTE(HamCam @ Nov 8 2009, 06:48 PM) [snapback]666956[/snapback]
Do you really think you would have earned ten times as much running your own wee electrical business mellow.gif Not saying some do not make good money in charge of theirr own set-up but few from my experience make significant money.

In terms of respect for the professions I do not see why being a doctor, teacher, accountant etc somehow deserves more respect than an electrician, plumber, joiner etc. All should be treated with respect and if you wish to be venerated earn it!
I know many folk with trades just now that would do anything for a 'regular' job such as life in the public sector. As some have said be careful what you wish for as life is not always greener on the other side.

Anyway I thought you were off to don a beret or white hankie on the heid before marching about in the sand? I did say at the time you were too much of a feartie to head off into the sunset. Oh well at least with Geordie back in Greenock you will have a 'partner' for the back of your scooter as you tear up and down the Esplanade rubbing each other's helmets.

Life is what you make of it. Tried wage slave in public and private sectors before settling on self-employed in reasonably large partnership. When the time comes for the next change I suspect it will be to do my own thing - always fancied that French Foreign Legion rolleyes.gif

Nor do I.

I stated that respect for the professions has gone, and more's the pity. If you care to think of well qualified tradesmen as professionals that's fine by me. They don't get respect those days either.

A final point. I would not expect to generate ten times my previous income as a sole trader. I'd have thought that was obvious! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-16 18:11:30
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Nov 16 2009, 08:25 AM) [snapback]669248[/snapback]
The jag is yet to be proven absolutely correct. And the jag didn't actually predict a win on Saturday. Genitals predicted a 4-0 romp, a far more specific and accurate call. Listen to Genitals jaggy, you're on the right track.

Don't be ridiculous boy! A stethoscope has many uses, but auscultation of the bollocks is out of the question. huh.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-16 18:18:06 The Trust could not run a piss up in a brewery.

Playing wee money games with little real success is a damned sight different from financing a football club.

Measles will not reveal his identity. I suspect he is Stuart Duncan's alter ego! ph34r.gif

No further comment on this thread from Jag! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-17 07:50:34

QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Nov 11 2009, 09:18 PM) [snapback]667765[/snapback]
As a shareholder, so have I. tongue.gif From memory, and thanks to DDF buying shares in lieu of debt, I think the outstanding debt as at May 2008 (the last published accounts) was circa £250,000. In relation to the vast majority of Clubs in Scotland, this is almost insignificant. rolleyes.gif

That's fantastic. I always knew Shoogly had a huge stash in that chanty under the big four poster.

Tell me Smiffy, bearer of good tidings and a cephalus crammed rectum - is it SPL next season, or the following season?

Yer master didn't want Grady in the first place but he was too skint to buy experience.

That's a fact sonny boy. A fact about which, in the Grady situation, I'm not unduly concerned!
mortonjag 2009-11-17 07:57:32
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Nov 16 2009, 08:27 PM) [snapback]669526[/snapback]
Shut it! tongue.gif

F8ck off ya beardy jobby. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-17 08:35:32 The three wise men hadn't enough money to pay for their Christmas turkey.

Shoogly was getting old and tired of it all. He was fed up spending mini-bucks and achieving sweet f*ck all and had run out of patience with the disobedient fans. The prodigal son wasn't really interested anyway, preferring to tootle on his flute, and the Trusty cuckoo was as much use as the pittance over which he regularly drooled.

Donkey Dave had allowed them to spend Christmas Eve in his stable as there was no room in the Tontine.

That night, rich Uncle Donald was driving through Inverclyde when he spotted a bright light shining over the stable. How was he to know that the helicopter regularly hovered over the cemetery?

Full of goodwill to all men he stopped the Bentley right outside, and manfully bracing himself against the stench of donkey crap he strode in. 'Merry Christmas', he chucked, would youse guys like a wee pressy?

Always alert to a bargain, Shoogly replied, 'No kind Sir', but I will sell you a Subbuteo set - hardly used and in excellent condition. As the Cuckoo clucked disapprovingly (and was told to 'shut it'), and the prodigal son leered benignly, Uncle Donald replied - 'Indeed that might interest me Good Sir. For long and weary I have yearned for my own Subbuteo set, and to get one hardly used and in excellent condition I would be willing to pay a handsome sum.


To be continued. smile.gif

mortonjag 2009-11-17 16:02:32
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Nov 17 2009, 01:17 PM) [snapback]669737[/snapback]
I don't see the point in removing him from the board unless he's done something untoward or is involved in something that contradicts / contravenes his position as a club director.

It would appear that he has indeed failed to fulfill certain promises, like the Austria Trip, if the word on the street is to be believed, as this years accounts aren't yet published no-one can be certain if GMFC paid for the trip or not.

However he has paid for several other things, like team building days.
He does take up hospitality with a number of his friends / business partners which also provides some much needed revenue.

I've never met him and don't know anything about him so have no real opinion of him and it doesn't overly bother me whether he's a board member or not.

Well you see Willy Man (and you'll notice that all the Uncle Donald critics are either dyed in the wool Shooglyphiles, followers of the Cuckoo, or the Cuckoo himself), doing 'something untoward' at Cappielow, and 'doing something untoward' in the real world often differ.

For example you could offer 'The Club' some £40,000 to help the youth set up, and after 'The Club' has made a complete fool of you, you could end up with a bill/begging letter for over two grand for something you never owed in the first place. Is history repeating itself with Uncle Donald? I understand that The Club has previous for trying to get money it was not owed! dry.gif

Or you could offer to buy a barely used Subbuteo set you've been offered ('in excellent condition') only to be asked to pay twice the price of a brand new one! smile.gif

...or you could facilitate two substantial renovations to the fabric of the Subbuteo board, help to pay for a couple of new pieces, and fund a 'freshening up' for all the Subbuteo men, only to discover that the relative pauper who tried to sell you the whole caboodle for a hiked up price was taking full credit for everything and denying that you ever saw that light over Donkey Dave's stable!

...oh and Willy Man - all those stories you've heard on the street ARE just stories, and you're correct to question the outpourings from the Shoogly propaganda machine, because the truth WILL out - even if it's after he's shot the craw, and by that time Uncle Donald may well have decided to play Subbuteo elsewhere. Then the Cuckoo's pennies will be used to kick start an unprecedented rise in the fortunes of Greenock Morton, which will see them in Europe within two seasons! unsure.gif

To be continued... sleep.gif
mortonjag 2009-11-22 08:01:45 Uncle Donald had just left the UDF (Unacknowledged Donor Facility) club with an old boozing buddy when news filtered through that the Ton were humping Erdry 4 -2. Tears welled up in his indescribably evil eyes as he pondered what might have been. Perhaps the Subbuteo set hadn't been overvalued at all -perhaps Donkey Dave WAS a real accountant in ass drag - maybe there was more to the Cuckoo's cluckings than his glaicet appearance gave credit for - and good gracious, the prodigal son - perhaps he had really wanted to play Subbuteo after all! unsure.gif

The friend, sensing Uncle Donald's discomfort (and the chance of another sub) asked 'Whit's yer beef Baldy'?

'Andrex, he replied (all UDF members have secret coded names), I think that perhaps I should have gone for that Subbuteo set after all'.

'Whit, jist because Irons got punted and yon wee Paisley P*pe's got a couple o' results'?

Don't be facile Andrex, I'm bigger than that - it's just that I think I may have missed the investment opportunity of a lifetime.


To be continued
mortonjag 2009-12-04 14:39:39
QUOTE(Deego @ Nov 28 2009, 11:55 PM) [snapback]674119[/snapback]
Anyone else notice you can see every fcker's penis in the Cowshed bogs as someone opens the door? I notice certain females make this a weekly activity to stand and watch the penis on show at half time.

You're getting mixed up with 'Hospitality' Deeglet! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-04 14:42:46
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Dec 4 2009, 02:28 PM) [snapback]675997[/snapback]
Sad but true. A lot of bitter people on here sad.gif

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Holy Willies, Cloth Ears!
mortonjag 2009-12-04 14:43:45
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 4 2009, 02:25 PM) [snapback]675994[/snapback]
Just to clarify something, the mods cannot be on this site 24/7 therefore if you see Unacceptable Posts please use the report function or pm us. As we cannot see everything!
http://www.greenockmorton.org/forum/index.php?act=boardrules

You could have fooled me Darling! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-04 14:50:17
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 4 2009, 02:44 PM) [snapback]676008[/snapback]
How's your friend Alistair getting on? Any idea if he's looked at the accounts yet? biggrin.gif

I thought you and the rest of the Rae sodden propaganda sponges knew all the answers, Smegma! Kind of yoiu to ask though. wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-04 14:54:52 Given that all cooncillors are scrounging cheating lying c*nts, WHY is this news? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-04 14:57:32
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Nov 26 2009, 11:02 PM) [snapback]673448[/snapback]
Nah, that is the one I used for my late night tear-fuelled w4nk sad.gif

Yer a lying wee c*nt PD-you'd do anything for another shag from the Jag!
mortonjag 2009-12-04 15:06:33
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 4 2009, 02:58 PM) [snapback]676020[/snapback]
If I said that I didn't know all the answers, or that I'm an ex-Raeite looking to be deprogammed, would you spill the beans?

I think the AD camp owes the fans an explanation. And probably a little more besides biggrin.gif

I agree wholeheartedly Smeggy. 'The aide de campe', AKA The Cuckoo, Measles, and yon snake from 'The Jungle Book' has much to answer for! More fools those who believe without evidence, though I've a sneaky feeling that one of those days somebody will actually have the gall to publish 'evidence' on this little message board in all its independent and unofficial glory! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-04 15:09:03
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 4 2009, 03:05 PM) [snapback]676027[/snapback]
All of them ? Watch what you're saying Doc, some have friends on here..... rolleyes.gif

That has been my experience Claymore C0CK! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-04 15:10:46
QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporter @ Dec 4 2009, 03:00 PM) [snapback]676023[/snapback]
I hate to bring this up again but....
If you read the post below I think you'll find all the proof you need

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mortonjag 2009-12-04 15:28:32
QUOTE(se65an @ Dec 2 2009, 10:01 PM) [snapback]675405[/snapback]
Thanks for the report.

The whole AD is questionable, though I think DDR had the wool pulled over his eyes as most were, sad days that con artists like this still get off 'scott' free
Not 100% either if it was covered in share issue, though thankful to Dougie if not.

Goes back to the issue why AD was brought in, maybe if he done what was expected it would not have been that much.

It is a serious amount of money, and one that needs addressed regardless.

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mortonjag 2009-12-04 15:29:54
QUOTE(ccc @ Dec 4 2009, 03:28 PM) [snapback]676042[/snapback]
That proves that he owed £20k in May. That does not prove if he has settled it or if he increased his amount owed.

He could have settled it on June 1st!

It's a question that will be asked at the AGM I have no doubt. Whether it will be answered or not....

How dare you argue with the Holy Books of Shoogly? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-04 15:32:50
QUOTE(Sanny @ Dec 4 2009, 03:20 PM) [snapback]676039[/snapback]
Look whos back, new medication MJ?

Just think of all the woman that would be chasing you if you owned a claymore ****.

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My anti psychotic drugs have remained constant for some time dear.
mortonjag 2009-12-04 15:38:38
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Dec 4 2009, 03:36 PM) [snapback]676050[/snapback]
Doubt it will be yourself though smile.gif, I know something you don't know nananana.

How do you know? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-04 15:40:24 Dumbarton 1 Morton 3 smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-04 15:57:33
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 4 2009, 03:53 PM) [snapback]676066[/snapback]
MJ thinks AD's going to save Morton from DDF. It transpires that AD is a chancer who keeps questionable company, and has, as of May 31st, not only not invested in Morton* but also owes them around 18k. MJ writes some cryptic nonsense on another thread backpedalling about the 'investment possibility of a lifetime', then disappears. He's back today, it seems, still defending the indefensible.

*oh, unless he paid for the St. Mirren stand, of course, which isn't on the accounts yet.

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Accounts are stories Smeggy.

Once upon a time there was a little chubby chap who liked choo choos and greasy sausages, and thought Richard the Turd was a King because he read it in a book. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-04 16:00:52
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 4 2009, 03:53 PM) [snapback]676067[/snapback]
Not a fan of talking therapies then?

WTF are those Peter? blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-04 16:12:29
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 4 2009, 04:06 PM) [snapback]676079[/snapback]
As long as we're story-telling, who paid for the new stand?

That depends on whose story you choose to believe Smeggy - but you know that! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-04 16:16:17
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Dec 4 2009, 03:50 PM) [snapback]676062[/snapback]
this reminds me of the South park episode where Ike's kindergarten teacher has an affair with him, if anyone has seen it then they will know what im on about biggrin.gif

Stories for children I'd imagine-the Beano Annual is a good example. Children often believe those Annual accounts! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-04 16:25:12
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 4 2009, 04:17 PM) [snapback]676084[/snapback]
What nonsense. It is a matter of empircal fact, and not one of opinion. The different versions of events do not change the fact that the stand was paid for with certain monies, and the monies must have come from somewhere.

In any case the false compromise fallacy above is quite a huge back-pedal from:
Well, the time is ripe for you or any other posters who wish to do so to come forward and clear AD's name.

We're waiting...

So far as I am aware, little one, Uncle Donald has formally been accused of nothing.

Furthermore I am confused by your expression 'empircal fact' - does one get those from empircal accounts? laugh.gif



mortonjag 2009-12-04 16:27:11
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 4 2009, 04:06 PM) [snapback]676078[/snapback]
When they do something wrong I'll criticise laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Do you find Bawheid attractive?
mortonjag 2009-12-04 16:30:57
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 4 2009, 04:27 PM) [snapback]676092[/snapback]
Certainly I'm accusing him of doing nothing. You're accusing him of having bought the stand from St. Mirren.
The stand expenditure is in the accounts? Interesting. Any more details?

Proof please! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-04 16:41:10
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 4 2009, 04:36 PM) [snapback]676098[/snapback]
Here's one for starters.

Clicky

I am acquainted with Gestalt, Peter. I do, after all have a qualification in Counselling, but 'Talking Therapies' is a new term for me.

Anyway I'll stick to my tried and trusted medication-which reminds me that I have a dissection to do this evening.
mortonjag 2009-12-04 16:42:42
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 4 2009, 04:34 PM) [snapback]676097[/snapback]
I find you attractive.

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mortonjag 2009-12-04 16:47:54
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 4 2009, 04:45 PM) [snapback]676103[/snapback]
*yawn*

Face it. You backed the wrong horse because you got suckered in by the first person to present what looked to be a legitimate challenge to DDF. Happens to the best of us. Time to move on.

Proof please! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-04 16:53:53
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 4 2009, 04:52 PM) [snapback]676106[/snapback]
Nonsense. There's a clear difference between being at a ground on time and being one of the dafties who swan in late and make everyone move about for their song and dance over their rightful seat. Nop-one's goign to be banging down the turbnstiles tomorrow to be the first to nick your seat.
You're comparing the Strathclyde Homes 'Stadium' to Hampden? Very good.

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mortonjag 2009-12-08 12:02:56 A dog's breakfast eh!

Cappielow springs to mind. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-08 12:05:34
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 4 2009, 10:18 PM) [snapback]676272[/snapback]
Answer this and I'm all yours smile.gif

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As Shoogly said to Uncle Donald!
mortonjag 2009-12-08 12:07:22
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 8 2009, 09:31 AM) [snapback]678001[/snapback]
'Cynical' is maybe a better word!

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mortonjag 2009-12-08 12:09:09
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Dec 8 2009, 08:40 AM) [snapback]677982[/snapback]
Where's the conjecture and speculation? The official audited and approved accounts are fairly conclusive in that as of 31 May 2009 he owed the club £18,953. All that remains to be answered is: a) how much of that remains unpaid and b ) what is the split of that debt between hospitality and donations.

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mortonjag 2009-12-08 12:12:52 It's quite simple really. The master plan is that we beat them tyms and draw them hunce away in the next round. After humping them rid raw we shall progress to a glorified victory in the final against them shepe shagurz and Shoogly will retire to live happily ever after! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-08 12:15:51 'Fraid I don't see us getting much from this game after Saturday's draining escapade. For all the recent improvement we still look pretty weak in midfield where County won the game last time.

Fingers crossed anyway. blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-08 12:19:19
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Dec 8 2009, 12:17 PM) [snapback]678068[/snapback]
Aye right MJ, if you were Dougie (you're not, right..?) and Morton won the Scottish Cup you'd fcking retire as well! laugh.gif

You don't think we're going to win? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-09 07:46:30
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Dec 8 2009, 12:39 PM) [snapback]678079[/snapback]
Is this another of your "Davie Irons will be gone in the summer" predictions?

What a stupid question!
mortonjag 2009-12-09 08:10:27
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Dec 7 2009, 11:15 PM) [snapback]677929[/snapback]
Sounds pretty straight forward to me. He booked hospitality that he never paid for and he made financial commitments to the club that he never met.
Who knows what those financial commitments were and whether or not they are ongoing which means that his debt has carried over into this year and may even have grown.

Some bloody uncle, i had one like that who would have taken your last penny. I can't wait for MJ to come back and finish his Christmas tale, or is he going to be in London for the foreseeable future laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

The dog believes every scrap fed to it by the master! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Dec 8 2009, 12:43 PM) [snapback]678083[/snapback]
Oh right so now you are saying that the accounts lodged by Morton at Companies House are made up? If so that's a fairly big accusation deserving of some proof.

Edit to add - re your signature, given all your "inside info" and knowing "the truth" I'd have thought you'd know where your mate was and wouldn't have to ask.

I have made no accusations Ratarse. You HAVE. Kindly stop putting words into Mortonjag's mouth. You are not fit for that! wub.gif

It's worrying that the followers of the Cuckoo and similar brain damaged poorniths seem happy to accept ANY OLD set of accounts without understanding HOW the books are made up, and happily accuse others of alleging fraud! smile.gif It's also ineffably risible that such creatures quote every word that proceedeth from the mouth of the 'God' as 'The Truth' dry.gif

Alistair Donald is not 'my mate'. Mortonjag does not have 'mates', though my friends, acquaintances, and confidants know where Uncle Donald is, and why he's there! My signature is a rhetorical question. If you do not understand the implications, I suggest you consult the Shooglemeister who will give you an answer which must be believed! laugh.gif

QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Dec 8 2009, 02:58 PM) [snapback]678148[/snapback]
There is nothing conclusive at all. We don't know what he pledged the money for, or under what circumstances, and we don't know exactly WHEN he pledged it. For all the statement in the accounts tell us, he could have said to Dougie on the 30th of May, "Here, Doug, I'm gonnae gie you £30,000. Here's some of it now, I'll pop down to the TSB on Monday morning and get the rest . Probably not, I'll admit, but that statement in the accounts is by no means conclusive on way or other without knowing the who, why, what's and when.
Speculation and conjecture. It's the same as the Shimmin threads, all we have is a few statements from the club that on their own tell us not much for definite, but added to a load of people who claim to have intimate knowledge of everything that happens at Cappielow dressing it up with a bundle of "allegedly"'s, we end up with a bunch of folk booing a players name, or comparing someone to Hugh Scott.

It'd seem from Donalds sudden arrival and subsequent silence, as well as a few other things, that he has indeed been something of a chancer, but unless the sweetie-wifeys on here are willing to lay down some hard, concrete proof backed up by solid evidence, I'd say it's best to hold off and wait until that proof can be unearthed at the AGM before we go making sweeping judgements.

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mortonjag 2009-12-09 09:18:43
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Dec 9 2009, 08:29 AM) [snapback]678631[/snapback]
I never made any accusation, I asked a question of you, trying to understand your use of a smiley and lookking for confirmation that my interpretation of your use of the smiley was correct. The only sweetie wife on here is you MJ. You have brought forward nothing but so called facts devoid of any proof and when presented with chance after chance to prove yourself you supposedly disappear to London faster than Dick Whittington. The comparison with Dick Whittington is quite apt given the fairy stories you make up. I'll trust the audited and approved accounts over anything you have to say as at least they are in black and white and not just the third hand hearsay you are inclined to quote as fact. No doubt you're asking Santa for an even bigger wooden spoon this Christmas for more fun next year.

No need to repeat yourself Ratarse.

My posts are also in black and white! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-09 09:24:14
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Dec 8 2009, 02:34 PM) [snapback]678137[/snapback]
See if you two don't take this outside (of this sub-forum) then I'll be calling an EGM with TiD to discuss a potential ban. It's getting old ladies.... kinda like Puggs does on a Saturday night.

Are you calling me an old lady ya tadger? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-11 17:44:00 Morton 2 Queens 1 smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-11 17:48:05
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Dec 11 2009, 11:45 AM) [snapback]679458[/snapback]
Were the stains on your tie other bodily fluids rip.gif

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mortonjag 2009-12-11 17:53:28
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 9 2009, 01:47 PM) [snapback]678719[/snapback]
What you saw? unsure.gif

I assume you will be changing your signature now PD since Mr Donald has answered the question for you.

The correct answer was, of course:

He's at a UDF meeting with Andrex, guzzling Duncan's chocolate, polishing off the last of the summer wine he stole from hospitality, and praying Shoogly doesn't bankrupt him! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-11 21:01:47
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 11 2009, 07:47 PM) [snapback]679558[/snapback]
Maybe it's like the EPL where the morons who support the clubs get all wet about 'money men' getting involved then the 'money men' turn out to be charlatans with no money. Or maybe it's nothing like that at all. How should I know? Ask Mortonjag, he'll know. After all, he IS Alistair Donald. dry.gif

Mortonjag is all things to all people Peter! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-11 21:05:00
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Dec 11 2009, 07:48 PM) [snapback]679560[/snapback]
What a delight! Eight deed bulbs in two sections and no “proper†spares. Over an hour of ferting around thinking that it would only be one bulb in each section in need of replacement mad.gif .

Two tips: try all the bulbs in a section that is already working and if you are going to cannibalise from another set of lights then make sure that they draw a larger current. LEDs will be purchased for next year. In the meantime the hoose looks like the Griswolds. Magic bag.gif !

Merry Christmas

Lang may yer bulbs glisten! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-11 22:05:23
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Dec 11 2009, 09:09 PM) [snapback]679588[/snapback]
It doesn't answer my question , as much as you would like to revel at MJ being wrong the bigger question of is there going to be an active search for the void to be filled on the board.

Mortonjag was correct! blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-11 22:07:15
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 11 2009, 10:06 PM) [snapback]679611[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-12-11 22:13:11
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 11 2009, 09:34 PM) [snapback]679598[/snapback]
Of course you will come out with an answer after something has happened...in typical jag style.

So no...the question remains. And a real answer would be very much appreciated smile.gif

I'm sorry PD, I've forgotten what your question was. Alistair Donald has been in the States on business for some considerable time.

Does that help you dear?

Here's a question for you.

Do you aspire to the day when you'll publish an independent opinion, instead of pumping up your post count on the strength of your well practiced leeching? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-12 09:27:53
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 12 2009, 08:02 AM) [snapback]679689[/snapback]
I suppose the difference is that DDFR as an experienced businessman should be able to tell the 'real' millionaire from the 'paper' millionaire.

Does experienced equate to successful, Peter? blink.gif

QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 12 2009, 08:51 AM) [snapback]679697[/snapback]
Nope, and neither did AD.

IF you find a grandad sized dummy lying around can you return it to its rightful owner.

Now that AD's gone, you can still perm any one from three! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-12 09:33:05
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 12 2009, 07:40 AM) [snapback]679684[/snapback]
Davie McArthur would ph34r.gif

Aye, Peter's very choosy-he won't shag weans, men, or women with IQ's of less than 140.

As for sheep - well nobody's perfect! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-12 10:39:59
QUOTE(port-ton @ Dec 12 2009, 05:38 AM) [snapback]679675[/snapback]
If you had the choice would you rather we finished 6th or 7th and got rid of all the players we know aren't good enough consistently or would you rather we go on a great run like last year and finish 3rd or 4th and potentially fool grady into giving them new contracts?

If I had the choice, I'd rather we finished first or last. Either way Shoogly's forward planning would be shown up for what it is - non existent! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-12 10:41:49
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 12 2009, 09:39 AM) [snapback]679708[/snapback]
I'm meaning is it sad I knew what it would be...not that someone made it.

Quite like those videos actually smile.gif

It's sad that your signature, like yourself, is played out sonny boy! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-12 10:43:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 12 2009, 10:28 AM) [snapback]679715[/snapback]
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Back in 1978 people used apostrophes correctly.

...and the Ton was still a football club! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-12 11:11:06
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Dec 12 2009, 10:39 AM) [snapback]679716[/snapback]
If I had the choice, I'd rather we finished first or last. Either way Shoogly's forward planning would be shown up for what it is - non existent! laugh.gif



QUOTE(suda @ Dec 12 2009, 10:45 AM) [snapback]679719[/snapback]
so you don't mind where we finish as long as 'Shoogly' looks like an arse! Your not bitter at all are you.

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mortonjag 2009-12-12 11:13:07
QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporter @ Dec 12 2009, 10:59 AM) [snapback]679725[/snapback]
looks like the owner dropped it after making a hasty exit from Cappielow several months ago after being asked when his tab would be brought up to date, owner can be found in well known loyalist haunt somewhere in Glasgow. rolleyes.gif

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Some might argue that that is preferable to drowning in ones own fudge!
mortonjag 2009-12-12 11:15:18
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Dec 12 2009, 10:52 AM) [snapback]679722[/snapback]
It still is MJ, the fact that you dialled the wrong number with the whole AD thing doesn't detract from that ! The club has actually got a bit of a spine it hasn't shown for many a year - and that can only be good.

TonInDublin

Mortonjag never dials the wrong number Johnny boy, though he often fails to get replies to his well intentioned calls! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-12 11:38:51
QUOTE(Harelaw @ Dec 12 2009, 11:27 AM) [snapback]679736[/snapback]
Getting a bit boring now puggsy blush.gif

Don't upset the little chap! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-12 12:33:20
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Dec 12 2009, 12:24 PM) [snapback]679747[/snapback]
Why are the club suddenly Robert de Neros with this situation ? They invited him on board as a consultant and close friend of the family then he left with other offers on the go.
I can not see the promises being fulfilled and what he actually done for the club however why invite him in to Cappielow in the first place before checking out his credentials ie he was only a paper millionaire rather than a proper millionaire.
Has Douglas been left high and dry again with another mistake or what. Where do we go from here.
There seems to be alot more to this than meets the eye. Will those in the know stop the bulls*** and tell us the facts instead of all this cryptic nonsense.

A proper millionaire keeps his millions under the bed. It saves raiding the fridge.
mortonjag 2009-12-12 12:34:42
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 12 2009, 10:52 AM) [snapback]679720[/snapback]
Hi pot smile.gif

You leave my belly out of this, dwarf. blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-12 12:41:13
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Dec 12 2009, 12:36 PM) [snapback]679752[/snapback]
WALTER MITTY

end of..............................

You're all much too cruel to 'Mitty',
He's gone and some say 'More's the pity'
So whom can you Trust
And who's really bust
And what's left in Raemanov's kitty? cool.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-13 09:11:22
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Dec 12 2009, 01:25 PM) [snapback]679764[/snapback]
You know what I meant , rather than the petty point scoring on here it leaves a far more important long term void for the future.
Surely if he was a long standing family friend then the type of character he was/is would have been known to Mr Rae ?

If the guy was so bad does this not call into question DDFR's judgement

Dougie is mortal and the longer term future of the club has to be all our continued aim .

We are all custodians as well as supporters.



QUOTE(leyTON @ Dec 13 2009, 02:50 AM) [snapback]680057[/snapback]
the difference is willowman knew, and you didnt blink.gif

If ANYBODY has the balls to publish proof of the allegations about AD - indeed it should not need balls if it's true - I invite him to do so.

I have no proof of what I believe to be the correct story, nor have I ever claimed that I had.
It is evident that a well orchestrated 'hate campaign' preceded AD's resignation, and I'm hardly surprised that he's left.

Mortonjag is constantly being badgered for proof. All he wants is the REAL truth yet he still awaits a response from several posters whom he thought he could respect.

Will somebody please supply me with PROOF of the allegations. Rest assured you can rely on Mortonjag's confidentiality. The little Piper chap can confirm that. Failure to do so will confirm to Mortonjag AND THIS MESSAGEBOARD, that you too are merely relying on 'sources'.

Mortonjag's source has hitherto NEVER BEEN WRONG ON MORTON MATTERS.

Unless Mortonjag receives satisfactory proof (which will be treated in the strictest confidence) of AD's alleged misdoings, this issue is not going to go away folks. thumbdown.gif

I await the deafening silence! Shoogly and Omerta are synonymous. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-13 09:22:57
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 13 2009, 12:53 AM) [snapback]680044[/snapback]
Weartherston is probably the kind of player we are looking for to play alongside Weatherson.
I think Russell could fit that role. He was never given the chance with Irons simply because of the way we played our football.
The way we play now could suit Russell to a "T" Why he was given out on loan in the first place given our small squad was totally bewildering.
This whole season is turning into a disaster of Titanic proportions. We have sorted out one of the problems in Irons, but we have many problems with under-performing players still on contracts till the end of season.
Grady has so far done well in making our team of fringe players play to acceptable levels. Some can be pleased with their performances, others will know they have been found out and are living on borrowed time.
Grady seems to have the finger on the pulse. He knows the good from the bad. He will act on it, his future depends on making sound judgements regarding the players

Because Shoogly wanted to save money Bannock Baws. I entirely agree with you about Russell. Every player has his qualities and flaws - if Irons had had his way Pantaloons would be gone by now,yet he plays a simple but very effective midfield role.

I see big Stu's being made to carry the can for the second goal, but that was an inspired 'once a season strike'. Have a look at the You Tube video of their FIRST goal, and you'll see the real weak link in our defence. Shimmin must stay, and Reidy come back!!!

Grady's still finding his way and the injuries are slow to clear. Yeterday's first half performance was as impressive as I've seen at Cappielow for a long time.

Dundee think they're the bee's knees at the moment. I'd not be at all surprised if we nick at least a point at Dens next Saturday. bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-14 08:11:51
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Dec 13 2009, 03:34 PM) [snapback]680183[/snapback]
Is that a fact. Why did Dougie let him away with this then ? with a rather nicey nice cheerio statement. Did he pay his bar bill or what ? I thought he was family friend. Was that a lota bull as well ?
Will somebody tell me what REALLY happened behind the scenes. There is something going on here. Has Rae not got a pot tae piss in when it comes to Cappielow. Was he trying to pull the wool over Donald and Donald walked away.

No answer yet guv!

QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Dec 13 2009, 04:11 PM) [snapback]680217[/snapback]
Not confusing rather more bizzare but I guess only at Cappielow. Something does not add up. What was he brought in exactly for ? Take over the club or what? Did he not buy the Raes vision on the future of the club. Why was he allowed to run up such a bar bill ? Did he pay it eventually? No there is something more to this than meets the eye. What is the real story. One thing is for sure Dougie is keeping very quiet about it whatever it is/was.

No answer yet guv!

QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 13 2009, 05:41 PM) [snapback]680261[/snapback]
That's a good point, actually. DDF may take the plaudits for chasing AD out, but it was him who left the door open in the first place. There is a distinct lack of long-term strategy about the board at Cappielow and that's solely down to one man.

You get there in the end Smegma!

QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Dec 13 2009, 06:02 PM) [snapback]680270[/snapback]
Look, sometimes thectruth is a lot simpler than you think. The man made promises he couldn't keep, plain and simple. As for being a new saviour of the club, you would need to belong to the Hugh Scott club for gullable fools to believe that story. Truth is the guy would have been great on Jackanory and was good at talking himself up. Lucky for us he's gone but fooled people into believing his stories before he left including those who jumped at every opportunity to have a go at Dougie. The mans a shyster and no doubt will pop up at some other unsuspecting club, probably down south with his same s***e patter.

Spotty dog -him gobble all crumbs from master's table! Bearded tit - him feed from master's hand! laugh.gif


mortonjag 2009-12-14 08:23:41 I thought it best to post this on the Jesse forum - just in case! rolleyes.gif

Went to a different part of the stand on Saturday, and just as we were taking our seats I heard a wee boy in front say to (presumably) his DAD 'You mean the one with the pony tail'?

'No' - came the answer - 'the one with the gloves'. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-15 09:15:47
QUOTE(HamCam @ Dec 14 2009, 10:11 PM) [snapback]680657[/snapback]
I think Puggsy is an expert on the chanter so expect it is more advanced teaching on offer.

The poison dwarf portrayed as a snake charmer! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-15 09:24:33 Well gentlemen, you seem now to be debating the issue amongst yourselves. Why don't you all arrange a cosy wee chit chat with the Trusted bearded tit - and get your story pieced together properly for the forthcoming defamation action! laugh.gif

Alistair Donald - multi millionaire and successful international entrepreneur sues the Cuckoo for his charity box! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-15 09:57:03 Don't blame the producers. Blame the plastic society that has become of our once proud nation. National Service and the return of the birch would undoubtedly help.

I imagine that the wee boy who won could have lived quite happily. Now he's 50/50 for disaster. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-15 10:01:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 15 2009, 09:54 AM) [snapback]680716[/snapback]
Fixed for you, MJ.
Alistair Donald - multi millionaire and successful international entrepreneur buys the Midden Stand.

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That is correct Newt! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-15 11:18:01
QUOTE(vespaton @ Dec 14 2009, 06:51 PM) [snapback]680605[/snapback]
Jesus....don't be comparing Grady's stats to Irons considering there was a mutiny on and players where all but knocking the ball into their own net. thumbdown.gif

BP.

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The next game against the Jags should be real fun. Maybe they'll boot yer pal into the stand! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-15 11:26:36 I suspect Jimbo's form may take a turn for the better against them ****!

His performances have been poor, and it's sometimes hard to understand why he's not been on the bench, but he's clearly been working on his technique. He's trying to put over decent crosses with some success, and seems less inclined to hit the Port Town Hall steeple when he shoots. He had a thankless task on Saturday in an unaccustomed role. Perhaps we should just leave him on the left and get another VZ to help his game! Superkev's certainly come on in leaps and bounds.
mortonjag 2009-12-15 11:37:26
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 15 2009, 11:29 AM) [snapback]680735[/snapback]
I think that is dead right. We would (should?) have won on Saturday but for one defensive howler (McGregor 90% and Stewart 10% to blame) and one mistake (Greacen) followed by a brilliant but relatively fluky strike. I think that replace McGregor (who has had from my perspective been responsible for more goals against than anyone else since he replaced Mcmanus in the team) with Reid for a back four of

DVZ Greacen Shimmin Reid

For me that then leaves us looking at midfield and that is where the real problem is. That Paartalu was our best midfielder on Saturday should tell you everything you need to know. The defence does not get enough protection from midfield and the strikers do not get enough decent service. I have been a McGuffie supporter but he was awful on Saturday. I wanted Grady to replace him with Masterton which he did but then he contrived to be even worse!

I'm not sure if that's a criticism of Pantaloons or just a statement that he was on his own in midfield!
mortonjag 2009-12-15 11:45:18
QUOTE(leyTON @ Dec 15 2009, 11:42 AM) [snapback]680737[/snapback]
I want to hate berlusconi, i really do, but theres something quite endearing about a 73 year old man whose probably slept with about 1000 women and takes a punch in the11 coupon like an absolute pro

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mortonjag 2009-12-15 13:24:57

QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Dec 15 2009, 12:48 PM) [snapback]680746[/snapback]
Is AD out of here for good ? Did the bold Douglas try and entice him to buy the club and he didn't want to know. Seems pretty reasonable conclusion to me if that is the case. Can I ask this question what is the estimated value of AD on paper or not because he seems to have had a high flying career so far.
Did Douglas want X amount from AD and AD was not interested and AD has left the board or was it genuinely other interests that hastaken him away ? Just seems all cloudy issues again at Capiellow.

Replies on a postcard addressed to 'Guv of Greenock'. Entries close at 15.43 on Christmas Eve.

The sender of the first correct answer will receive a signed photograph of Hal Stewart, two slices of clootie dumpling, and an original copy of Brenda Lee singing 'Sweet Nothin's'. mellow.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-15 13:26:52
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Dec 15 2009, 01:24 PM) [snapback]680752[/snapback]
If my memory serves me right Hugh Scott once tried that old court action trick and was told to "bring it on". Needless to say he never did as it was not in his best interest as he had too much to lose by having his dirty washing paraded in public. It was also his last throw of the dice to try and put people off the scent and to stop the criticism. But we were up to our knees in information that could not be refuted, hence he quickly backed off. Not that he had any intention in the first place.

So for all the Alistair Donald apologists "bring it on". He owes Morton Football club a vast amount of money, which they will probably never see.
I'm sure this will all be revealed at the Morton AGM if somebody asks the right questions.

As for buying the Midden Stand, another tale spun to the Hugh Scott school of gullible fools.

MJ gullible surely not, taken in by a good story teller, never. Don't worry MJ you'll get over it. I promise to stop calling you a gullible fool and ridiculing you on a public forum. Well maybe not today, I'm having a good laugh at your naivety. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Your obvious hatred of Dougie is blinding you to the very obvious. Yer man AD talks a good game but frequently fails to deliver.

And for all you other members of the gullible brigade, he had no intention of buying Morton Football Club.

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You'll not be publishing the proof then Measles? Away back to your kennel. The Trust is making a complete fool of itself with overkill.

Give me the proof and I shall happily lick your mangy arse. wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-15 13:34:31
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 15 2009, 11:58 AM) [snapback]680740[/snapback]
It a statement implying that the rest of the midfield were poor given that Paartalu is not the greatest midfielder although an honest trier.

Damned by faint praise! IMHO he's extremely good at what he does and would fit well into a midfield if accompanied by a genuine attacking and genuine defensive partner.
mortonjag 2009-12-15 13:40:33
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 15 2009, 01:31 PM) [snapback]680756[/snapback]
Mortonjag demands answers....surely not!

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Not quite, dwarf. Mortonjag invites those who have made allegations to provide proof. Without proof, all is conjecture. It is one thing to provide information on the clear understanding that it has come from a trusted source.

It is quite another to present claims of irregularities as being factual without giving one shred of hard evidence.

I'm sure that even you can get your sweet little head around that! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-15 13:44:56
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 15 2009, 01:42 PM) [snapback]680761[/snapback]
Mortons audited accounts not enough for you?

I am sure that the books balance! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-15 13:47:17
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Dec 15 2009, 01:44 PM) [snapback]680764[/snapback]
Perfectly summed up , word for word accuracy, spot on, well said, hear hear, indeed, I concur, etc etc

Will you be the first to submit proof that Mr Donald is a bad man? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-15 13:56:36
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 15 2009, 01:47 PM) [snapback]680766[/snapback]
If you think they arenot right why don't you report it rolleyes.gif

What I think, and what I can prove are different, dearie. It's not hard to say that. Wish that the Trusties would follow the Jag's example. Will Bryan be the first to publish proof of Mr Donald's alleged omissions? dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-15 14:02:00
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 15 2009, 01:59 PM) [snapback]680773[/snapback]
My views on this are my own rolleyes.gif rasta ton posted what the accounts say which lists his omissions rolleyes.gif

I see - so you can't prove anything.

Perhaps Ratarse will provide proof for me instead of quoting from the old testament! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-15 14:07:42
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 15 2009, 02:04 PM) [snapback]680775[/snapback]
Its in black and white in the accounts, I'm sure you know a shareholder who will show you them tongue.gif

Good gracious Bryan - I'm astounded, and I apologise profusely. Do they even include the bits about Andrex and the UDF.

Do tell me if they also list which hand Satan uses to wipe his arse!

Did the accounts come out yesterday or the day before BTW? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-15 14:14:52
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 15 2009, 02:10 PM) [snapback]680782[/snapback]
You know when they come out, here is an idea get a shareholder to make you his proxy then you can ask for the proof at the AGM!

Oh - you mean that ancient set of figures - now I understand. So there will be no proof of the subsequent allegations.

How bitterly disappointing! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-15 14:17:32
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Dec 15 2009, 02:14 PM) [snapback]680784[/snapback]
He'll be in London that day. rolleyes.gif

Your imagination is inversely proportional to your IQ dear. wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-15 14:20:26
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 15 2009, 02:17 PM) [snapback]680788[/snapback]
The 6 month old ones so you think he has paid since then?

Don't you fancy the AGM. rolleyes.gif

May I refer you to my signature?

I don't go to Shoogly shows. I've never enjoyed pantomime! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-16 09:55:25
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Dec 15 2009, 10:03 PM) [snapback]680929[/snapback]
For a start, comparisons between AD & Hugh Scott I would suggest are way off the mark. I do not think that the Raes should be criticised in the way they have been for inviting someone on to the board for their business acumen. It hasn't worked out, so what - people come and go in business all the time and I'm sure no-one is more frustrated than Mr Rae given his financial outlay at the way things have worked out. It seems we may be better off without AD anyway so what's the fuss.

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All the fuss Ratarse. I'm not aware of any fuss. AD was invited on board as a wealthy, intelligent, and successful international businessman and friend of the Rae family ( who run a small confectionery business in a Scottish provincial town).

Mr Donald repeatedly stated that he had no intention of putting money into the club in the first instance, but would act in an advisory capacity. My information is that he made several helpful suggestions, some of which have been implemented by the Club.

I am also assured that Mr Donald paid for the Midden's old stand and floodlights, which may well have been invoiced to Golden Casket. I also understand that he funded the Austria trip.

The accounts prepared to May cannot incorporate details of subsequent financial adjustments.

Mr Donald has resigned from the Board. He states that he has done so because he is unable to devote the time and attention he'd like.

Mr Rae has graciously thanked him for all the good things he did.

There's no fuss. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-16 10:03:43
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 15 2009, 07:55 PM) [snapback]680870[/snapback]
What?!

One good cross on Saturday and suddenly we're forgetting that he's rubbish?

Rubbish can be extremely useful when recycled properly Smeggy. Wake up and smell the coffee! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-16 10:06:18 Not sure about this one, but we've been knocking at the door of a decent result and the injuries are clearing up. I asked the Monkey for a prediction and he's come up with Dundee 1 Morton 2. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-16 10:15:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 16 2009, 10:09 AM) [snapback]681008[/snapback]
For additional manufacturing capacity at Fort Matilda as far as the Inland Revenue are concerned ?

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I understand that the fudge production is already running to full capacity Newt. Does Shoogly plan to make more Millions? blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-16 10:23:23
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Dec 16 2009, 10:15 AM) [snapback]681012[/snapback]
Listen cloth ears, your wrong on both counts. Stop being so gullible, your making yourself look plain daft. I'm starting to feel sorry for you because being conned. And we can't have that can we.

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mortonjag 2009-12-16 11:04:47
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 16 2009, 10:54 AM) [snapback]681026[/snapback]
Well, I couldn't disagree more. I think that, after Davie McGregor, he is probably the main reason we find it hard to keep clean sheets. He can't find a simple pass in midfield, is completely bereft of composure, and can't tackle.

He is the epitome of the simple pass in midfield! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-16 11:19:25 "Shares, you must be joking"
Written by Stuart Duncan
Monday, 22 October 2007
Most clubs go through some sort of traumatic experience in their lifetime. Even the biggest clubs are not immune with some in Scotland amassing life threatening debts. But many survive and continue as if nothing has changed, until the next time. Many more are slowly recognising that fans have and can play an important part in revitalising clubs.

Take Greenock Morton, someone very nearly succeeded in doing their best to put the club out of business.

Had it not been for the fans and a very wealthy supporter by the name of Douglas Rae there would more than likely have been a supermarket on what is Cappielow Park the home of Greenock Morton Football Club. From being a shell of its former self the stadium and the team have been revitalised and the supporters, who are part of the Supporters’ Trust, have made a massive contribution to that effort by contributing over £118,000 into the clubs coffers. In the process the Supporters’ Trust has become the second biggest shareholder at Greenock Morton Football Club.

We are not finished yet with further commitment from Trust members the Supporters’ Trust hope to raise our stake in the club still further not to mention our contributions towards youth development.

This brings me back to the title of this article. You see when the club was on the brink of extinction and the “local†businessmen looked for a way to save the club one in particular was astonished to discover that we had every intention of getting shares in return for our contribution.

He thought we were just going to hand over the money and walk away getting nothing in return. Funny enough he was looking for shares for a smaller contribution and a place on the board. He was not alone some of our own support had doubts about our ability to get a foothold in the club “nothing but a bunch of amateurs†was how we were once described.

Now through forward planning and big hearted supporters, who have been absolutely marvellous with their financial support, we have the best of both worlds with money going into the club, the Supporters Trust the second biggest shareholder and our man, Jim McColl, on the board of directors at Greenock Morton.

Where do we go from here you may ask. Well, we pat everyone on the back and move on. We don’t want to wait until there is another crisis at our club.

We hope to be in a position one day where we will be beating a path to the door of whoever is handling the clubs affairs. And yes, we will be looking for shares, lots of them. Not bad for “a bunch of amateursâ€.
mortonjag 2009-12-16 11:28:12 Stuart Duncan
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mortonjag 2009-12-16 11:30:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 16 2009, 11:27 AM) [snapback]681038[/snapback]
If you want a progress report, should you not join the Trust ?

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My apologies if you are already a member.

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You make it sound like a secret society! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-16 11:32:00
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 16 2009, 11:30 AM) [snapback]681043[/snapback]
Oh well, hail the new Messiahs.

That statement smacks of arrogance, what about the rest of the fans who worked their arses off to save and build the club back up again. Or are we all just to bow to superiority?

It is a VAST sum by some standards! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-16 11:35:56
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Dec 16 2009, 11:28 AM) [snapback]681040[/snapback]
Sorry, but of all the drivel that's been posted on here - that phrase jumped out at me. I haven't the patience to check and see if I'm getting this out of context - but you're saying Dougy is the one person who has held us back ?

That's an interesting take on Dougy's contribution. I'm just wondering how far we could have advanced, if it weren't for Dougy 'holding us back'

Personally, I'm thinking along the lines of Livingston , Airdrie, or Clydebank.

Before yer mind starts racing wondering which part of the Rae clan/innersanctum/ trusted employee spectrum I fall into, can I just allay your fears and tell you that the closest I've been to DDFR is probably the day he walked into hospitality while I was there. Oh and I never spoke to him.

... and I must declare another connection - I once saw Crawford in the Cafe Continental - I was fair tickled.

I guess that if spinning on the spot and drowning in mediocrity float your boat you could argue that the Shooglemeister has performed stunningly! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-16 11:42:53
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Dec 16 2009, 11:38 AM) [snapback]681049[/snapback]
jeez, that comment's bloody typical of this board.

Why not just support the club like most of us do without nit-picking and taking umbrage at things that aren't intended to cause offence?

Honestly, some on here are worse than Shimmin....... dry.gif

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mortonjag 2009-12-16 11:45:52
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Dec 16 2009, 11:42 AM) [snapback]681053[/snapback]
I haven't been able to fathom your antipathy towards DDFR - did he thrash you the school playground once ?
Just a guess.

Mortonjag was fortunate enough to attend a good school! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-16 11:48:13
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Dec 16 2009, 11:45 AM) [snapback]681062[/snapback]
How dare you ohmy.gif . Not a visible Grey hair on my head....just now. ph34r.gif

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mortonjag 2009-12-16 12:36:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 16 2009, 11:58 AM) [snapback]681076[/snapback]
Mortonjag was fortunate enough to attend a proper school!

Fixed again, MJ.

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...and Shoogly is old enough to be his Daddy! (though it would have involved under age sex) unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-16 12:38:35
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 16 2009, 12:20 PM) [snapback]681092[/snapback]
Shhhhhhhh

Trussshhht! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-16 12:49:21
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Dec 16 2009, 12:41 PM) [snapback]681100[/snapback]
I can feel another 10 page borefest coming on.

No need to discuss your primitive urges on a serious thread! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-16 12:55:42
QUOTE(CraigoTON @ Dec 15 2009, 02:26 PM) [snapback]680793[/snapback]
Hate to be "that guy." But the Port Twn hall has no steeple. However the old one (now the library) does. Just to clear things up. rolleyes.gif

One lives and learns! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-16 13:03:05 just what the doctor ordered!
mortonjag 2009-12-16 13:07:10 This is all a wee bit worrying. Has Shoogly finally gone completely off his rocker or does he just object to segregation?
mortonjag 2009-12-16 13:12:24
QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporter @ Dec 16 2009, 01:04 PM) [snapback]681115[/snapback]
Out of everything I've read this was the thing that has left me intrigued, now I'm no longer a member of the 'trust' but in what way does their name breach copyright? unsure.gif

I'm not sure what the bearded one means either.

Maybe it has something to do with the word 'TRUST' and the concepts that generates in the minds of most folk.

I think the 'Trust' is a wonderfully commendable organisation - just like the 'Flat Earth Society'! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-16 13:16:12
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Dec 16 2009, 01:07 PM) [snapback]681117[/snapback]
Okay, I'll bite.

How was he going to stop this from happening ?

I wasn't looking for a 'bite'. Perhaps the public allocation should have been handled by the various supporters' clubs.
mortonjag 2009-12-16 13:21:45
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 16 2009, 01:18 PM) [snapback]681126[/snapback]
And for the independent supporter? Then what?

I just imagined that the Supporters' Clubs would be a better judge of 'independence' than Smiths' wee lassies!
mortonjag 2009-12-16 13:26:11
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Dec 16 2009, 01:22 PM) [snapback]681128[/snapback]
OK, nice get out. I'll rephrase.

If you couldn't afford to or didn't feel the need to or just simply didn't want to pay the £500 loan or even the £10 a year to join the Trust there is no one that I can see criticising you. So how can you justify your complaint that those that did choose to part with their money and continue to do so are being acknowledged accordingly.

When does the planned take over happen? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-16 13:27:22
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 16 2009, 01:24 PM) [snapback]681132[/snapback]
Why would i delete it?

Because you are the deleter in chief! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-16 13:30:39
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Dec 16 2009, 01:24 PM) [snapback]681129[/snapback]
'Serious' - do me a favour laugh.gif

You appear to be suggesting that the Trust is a joke! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-16 13:35:47
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 16 2009, 01:32 PM) [snapback]681142[/snapback]
You can say what you want with in reason!

Can I say that I think the Trust in its present form has about as much influence at Cappielow as a mouse trying to hump an elephant? blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-16 13:37:20
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Dec 16 2009, 01:32 PM) [snapback]681143[/snapback]
Totally agree Paartalu's like a new player since Irons went. He does tend to fade away after about 60 mins though.
I'd be delighted to be proved wrong about Russel but to me he's no better than Graham and sadly Graham's not much better than Wake and Wake's mince. sad.gif

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mortonjag 2009-12-16 13:40:58
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Dec 16 2009, 01:39 PM) [snapback]681157[/snapback]
aye, wouldn't be surprised.

I've seen enough to get the flavour of it and I'll be happy to leave 'em to it on this one.......

Thank f*ck! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-16 13:42:00
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Dec 16 2009, 01:41 PM) [snapback]681160[/snapback]
wot, is there a wee collection box at the side of the homepage? happy.gif

Nun of yer nonsense!
mortonjag 2009-12-16 13:44:38
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Dec 16 2009, 01:32 PM) [snapback]681141[/snapback]
I failed to find anything even remotely amusing about either "jokes" (inverted commas used to denote how loosely the the term joke has been used).

I agree - it's a very serious matter indeed. I think this is a scam to lull folk into a false sense of security.
mortonjag 2009-12-16 13:49:01
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Dec 16 2009, 01:40 PM) [snapback]681158[/snapback]
Only someone who had nothing to do with Morton during The Scott era could come out with pish like that. I know where I was and what I did during that time and I know what The Trust did to help Save MY club.

Where were you and what did you do ?

That is absolutely none of your business, though my dearly departed Dad fought in the Second World War! laugh.gif

I'm looking for a progress report dear, not a sight of your f*cking medal! ph34r.gif

mortonjag 2009-12-16 13:51:55
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Dec 16 2009, 01:45 PM) [snapback]681167[/snapback]
force of habit.......

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mortonjag 2009-12-16 13:53:12
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Dec 16 2009, 01:44 PM) [snapback]681164[/snapback]
I'd never tire of slapping that face.

I was hoping for something more intimate darling! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-16 14:01:00
QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporter @ Dec 16 2009, 01:54 PM) [snapback]681183[/snapback]
Yes mumbling about breaches of copyright is just nonsense.

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Why is Stuart's baby called 'The Trust'? It's a serious question. What is it entrusted to do, and how is it progressing?

Can it be trusted to topple the mighty Shooglemeister?

Does it want to?

Does it trust the mighty Shooglemeister to lead us to the land flowing with milk and honey?

I trust you have the answer! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-16 14:04:44
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Dec 16 2009, 02:00 PM) [snapback]681187[/snapback]
You seem to be the man to answer my earlier question. I'm well aware of what the trust did around the Scott era but I'm genuinely interested to learn who you are and what you do these days. This isn't an attempt at a dig nor am I coming at it from the same angle as Mortonjag, it's an honest query.

FFS Boozy, I asked a genuine question.

Having said that, perhaps you'll get an answer... ............................hmm! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-16 14:07:01
QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporter @ Dec 16 2009, 02:04 PM) [snapback]681192[/snapback]
I do have an answer for you, 'The Trust' doesn't actually exist the proper name is Greenock Morton Supporters' Society Limited, thanks. laugh.gif

Does Stuart Duncan actually exist?

Is his proper name Shoogly's Poodle? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-16 14:10:45
QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporter @ Dec 16 2009, 02:09 PM) [snapback]681198[/snapback]
Now of all people you are the one that shouldn't be asking questions like that. rolleyes.gif

WHY? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-16 14:22:00
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Dec 16 2009, 02:11 PM) [snapback]681201[/snapback]
Ah, but I suspect you know more than you're letting on whereas I genuinely know absolutely nothing about the trust. Know?

Well, for a start, I've just been reliably informed that the Trust doesn't exist, though I could swear it's been mentioned on here before.

All I know is that it's some kind of secret society you can join if you want to bodyswerve your tenner carry out one Saturday night. In return your pennies are apparently used for a good cause - oh and you're allowed to be a 'shareholder' which entitles you to free entry to Shoogly Shows if you're not in London. You can even attend the secret society's own AGM though you must book early as places are limited and on a 'first come first served' basis. Most importantly the secret society has its very own member as a Club director-and the only one who doesn't make sweeties, which is reassuring given current dental charges-sorry Boozy - I'm starting to ramble again -medication time.
mortonjag 2009-12-16 14:24:30
QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporter @ Dec 16 2009, 02:12 PM) [snapback]681202[/snapback]
do you really exist? unsure.gif

Cogito ergo sum! smile.gif dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-16 15:11:03
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Dec 16 2009, 02:34 PM) [snapback]681212[/snapback]
Can you say if you were supporting Morton from inside the ground or if you boycotted home games and stood on the hill.

You can't say if you went to STT meetings or if you help collect via buckets outside the ground.

Can you say if you leafleted at home and or away games .

Can you say if you donated to the SST week after week till the end of the season despite Graham Martin of KBP, telling us that we had no chance of being able to pay the players wages with what we could collect.

Can you even say if you marched with Allan McGraw and another two thousand Morton fans from the town centre to the Game against Dunfermline.

Can you say if you wrote letters to the SFA, SFL, KPB, the Media , your MSP or MP

Can you say if you ever gave any help in any way to AMTASC or STT

Can you say if you even supported Morton then ?

Or is all this your private business? laugh.gif

Why don't you just crawl back to where ever you were back then, fool of a man. rolleyes.gif

I told you Sweetie that I'm not interested in your war medals, though your heroics may have left a mental scar! wub.gif

Can YOU say that the 'Trust' (or whatever other fancy name you have for your cosy wee veterans' club) is making strides forward in the ongoing battle against the mighty Shooglemeister?

If you can, Mortonjag may invite you to an evening's pleasure in his cellar. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-16 16:51:02
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Dec 16 2009, 03:48 PM) [snapback]681229[/snapback]
MJ your so predictable. rolleyes.gif

Listen you gullible old fool, why don't you stick to the real story of how you and your pals were hoodwinked by Walter Mitty Donald. Taken in hook, line and sinker and made to look like the idiots you are after plugging his great take over on the message board for months. How he had ploughed thousands into Morton and not got any recognition, bought the Midden Stand and floodlights, made DDFR an offer yadiyadiya

And now your running for cover looking to deflect your own inadequacies by pulling this old chestnut out of the hat.

Your a gullible naive man who easily fooled. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Kiss my ass loser !!!!!! edited to add BAD loser

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mortonjag 2009-12-17 06:14:51
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Dec 16 2009, 11:15 PM) [snapback]681449[/snapback]
Who knows how much he's worth, he doesn't pay all his bills and tells stories that are not true. It could £10m, £20m or £200k. Maybe he's minted and his money is tied up where he can't get at it, meanwhile he's spending what he aint got and probably running out of "friends". With the exception of MJ, he'll always be his friend laugh.gif sucker laugh.gif

As for the walking out the door with a nice cheerio, that's business for you. One quote for the public and another behind closed doors. There will be no love lost between DDFR and AD.

Who said there will be no police involvement? If somebody owned me a whack of money I'd go after him with everything I had in my arsenal. Not unless I was too embarrassed to admit I had been conned. Ever wonder why he left Rangers in such a hurry and not a word was said? Meanwhile he ends up at Clyde with the same patter about investing in the club and of course no money appears!!!!!!

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You're not very fond of kind Uncle Donald, Measles, and you make strange allegations from the safety of your wee kennel. Did he steal your bone? You seem a sleekit type of animal which should not be Trusted.

So you're 'playing games' with the Jag unsure.gif Many posters have made that mistake, but you don't even have the balls to reveal your identity! Some 'game'! smile.gif

Mortonjag cited an old posting from Stuart Duncan, and asked for a progress report, as Mortonjag is genuinely curious to know the date of the planned 'Trust' take over of the Club..

Mr. Duncan posts as himself when he finds that convenient. On this occasion 'Spot Ton' has appeared with 'all the answers', aided and abetted by another anonymous arsehole who claims to be obsessed with Mortonjag's whereabouts when said arsehole was winning its war medal! Perhaps Mortonjag was busy stitching up its wounds! ph34r.gif

So Measles, my dear old friend (or should I call you the Cuckoo, or the Bearded Tit, or 'Mr Duncan, Sir'), it's very hard for me to take you seriously - indeed I regard you as something of a joke, and I shall continue to do so until you identify yourself and prove those silly allegations.









...... OH.... and Boozy is, I'm sure, still awaiting that progress report - maybe it'll come from Stuart! Maybe you could make that happen for us all. WOOF WOOF for now wub.gif

P.S. Uncle Donald sends his love from Abramovic's free bar! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-17 06:30:34
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 17 2009, 03:48 AM) [snapback]681491[/snapback]
History doesn't repeat itself, [b]but it rhymes.[/b]

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The Ton's progress hasn't been blistery
The reason, each season's no mystery
The answer is grey, in a suit
And called Rae
And thinks he'll be honoured by history! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-17 06:57:05 Toby! smile.gif
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mortonjag 2009-12-17 07:04:21
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 16 2009, 11:58 PM) [snapback]681469[/snapback]
MJ could probably give you an answer to this. You could literally talk s***e together. happy.gif

Green s***e often afflicts the East End of Glasgow - the result of invasion by multiple foreign bodies.
mortonjag 2009-12-17 07:31:42
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 16 2009, 04:56 PM) [snapback]681277[/snapback]
BTW jaggy the offer for you and a mate to meet the trust board any where you wish still stands, I'll even buy you a drink biggrin.gif

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There are lots of sincere people associated with the Trust, Bryan. The same goes for most 'well intended' organisations.

That doesn't alter the fact that Shoogly rules supreme and will do till he snuffs it!

Unless, of course, the progress report reveals something different.

We'll all know once it comes out, and there will be no need for me to take up your kind offer.

Mortonjag, however, invites any Trust member to an evening in his cellar where we can enjoy refreshments before getting down to serious dissection of matters! wub.gif

mortonjag 2009-12-17 07:33:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 17 2009, 07:20 AM) [snapback]681500[/snapback]
I haven't lost any marbles since the Academy moved to Madeira Street.

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Did you know, Newt, that children still play with their marbles?
mortonjag 2009-12-17 07:42:40
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 17 2009, 07:35 AM) [snapback]681503[/snapback]
Just been sent this off a workmate.

True Story?

The pics are superb. laugh.gif

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It's a very convincing story - I was rather disappointed when she didn't pounce on him in the shower screaming that she just loved shagging s***ty c*nts. blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-17 07:45:09
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Dec 16 2009, 04:22 PM) [snapback]681253[/snapback]
My God that's pish patter for a daft wee lad but from a man of your age and alleged intilect it's actually quite pathetic if not a little sad.


There is nothing 'alleged' about my intellect Sweetie - I'm just terribly gifted - blame my Mummy and Daddy if you must! wub.gif

Would you like free spelling lessons in Jaggy's cellar? blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-17 07:55:38
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Dec 16 2009, 04:05 PM) [snapback]681238[/snapback]
have you seen your psychiatrist lately, we wont win but i am sure we can get a point, we played well in the first half on saturdy and then we were devoid of ideas, if that happens on saturday i can see us getting pumped.

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Have you been spying on me? She was in yesterday, and I've to increase my dose of Largactil. She had a long chat with the Monkey about Beethoven and other stuff which bores me to tears.
mortonjag 2009-12-17 08:00:03
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 17 2009, 07:55 AM) [snapback]681506[/snapback]

It just goes to show that the simplest of skills can still give great enjoyment to those who take things into their own hands.
mortonjag 2009-12-17 09:44:20
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 17 2009, 08:38 AM) [snapback]681516[/snapback]
In all the years I've been posting on Morton forums that has to be the most mental post I've ever read.

I am highly honoured, Peter! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Dec 17 2009, 09:17 AM) [snapback]681520[/snapback]
There you go again, getting the signals all wrong. laugh.gif Just as you did with Alistair Donald. Your easily led, usually up the garden path. Remember all that glitters is not gold.

So kiss my ass oh great gullible one.

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mortonjag 2009-12-17 09:51:15
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 17 2009, 08:34 AM) [snapback]681514[/snapback]
Mortonjag.

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mortonjag 2009-12-17 10:30:48
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Dec 17 2009, 10:16 AM) [snapback]681531[/snapback]
laugh.gif Ha ha, i love it when you post stuff like that, your an absolute plank at times. I imagine you sitting there in your stinky old dressing gown in front of the pc, doors locked & curtains closed, thinking to yourself how people on this board must fear crossing your superior intellect. I think you actually believe your some kind of black knight of the tinterweb......who shant be crossed.

Reality is, your a tosser like the rest of us.

White knight dear! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-17 10:40:39
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Dec 17 2009, 10:32 AM) [snapback]681537[/snapback]
So am I to believe, from that crap above, that Mortonjag is your real name then? You also know exactly who I am so please stop being so petty.

Far from being "obsessed" with your whereabouts I merely asked a simple question which I will simplify further for you.

Did you support Greenock Morton in years between 1999 and 2002 ?
A simple yes or no is all I ask, thank you.

The Mother in Mother's Pride?

The c*nt in country eggs?

OK, I'll come clean. I was Hugh Scott's personal secretary during those years. Never before have I divulged this information, so consider yourself highly honoured! laugh.gif

Any chance of that progress report?
mortonjag 2009-12-17 10:47:40
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Dec 17 2009, 10:45 AM) [snapback]681540[/snapback]
Makes a change from the other lessons you teach down there ... ph34r.gif

Oh, you mean the guitar lessons - would you like a guitar lesson in Mortonjag's cellar? wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-17 10:56:13
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Dec 17 2009, 10:49 AM) [snapback]681544[/snapback]
Peter Stringfellow
Mortonjag
Ooops did I get this game the wrong way round?
Sorry, how silly of me rolleyes.gif

Ha darling I knew you couldn't resist posting that lovely photo you took the day I humped you rid raw doon the dunny.

Allan Connell (aka real boobs) laugh.gif





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mortonjag 2009-12-17 11:24:11
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Dec 17 2009, 11:09 AM) [snapback]681549[/snapback]
There's a joke about plucking in there ... but let's not do that.

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mortonjag 2009-12-17 11:29:21
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Dec 17 2009, 11:10 AM) [snapback]681550[/snapback]
Oh I see what you did. "hoops" nearly rhymes with "boobs" and saying "boobs" is very funny.-If you're 6 years old. rolleyes.gif

This is utter pish patter and the constantly pretending to be gay - what is that all about?

By the way that's not how you spell my name, creep but well done on your attempt.

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You jump to the queerest of conclusions.


I'm beginning to suspect that you don't like Mortonjag! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-17 11:38:05
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Dec 17 2009, 11:35 AM) [snapback]681557[/snapback]
Hello everybody. It's been ages since I last used this site and just thought I would say hello to everyone, old and new. Have i missed anything recently? Bet you I have not been missed.

Hi Weegie -welcome back! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-17 11:59:07
QUOTE(Caltonfan @ Dec 17 2009, 11:52 AM) [snapback]681564[/snapback]
How exactly is it biggoted to not want opposition fans in our section? Doesnt matter who we are playing the home section should be for home fans only.

I agree with you. It's all very well that perhaps 90% plus will behave in a good natured way. Unfortunately it doesn't take much to spark off trouble, so segregation makes sense.
mortonjag 2009-12-17 12:22:49
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Dec 17 2009, 12:05 PM) [snapback]681567[/snapback]
MJ if you are really that interested why don't you simply join the trust?

Taste and try before you buy! smile.gif

QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Dec 17 2009, 12:19 PM) [snapback]681572[/snapback]
again, -------
Did you support Greenock Morton in years between 1999 and 2002 ?
A simple yes or no is all I ask, thank you.

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OK Honey - here goes - just what you want...............



Yes or no. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-17 12:25:08
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Dec 17 2009, 12:19 PM) [snapback]681572[/snapback]
again, -------
Did you support Greenock Morton in years between 1999 and 2002 ?
A simple yes or no is all I ask, thank you.
Exactly.
Why do any of us bother with this pathetic little man ?

I often ask myself the same question. I conclude that in reality you all adore the Jag. We're all good friends really - n'est ce pas? unsure.gif wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-17 12:27:44
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Dec 17 2009, 12:05 PM) [snapback]681568[/snapback]
Hello there. are you new on here? wink.gif
Hi MJ. Good to hear from you. Hope you are all well mate.

Very well thanks, and regularly walking the greyhound in Pollok Park! wink.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-17 12:50:25
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Dec 17 2009, 12:43 PM) [snapback]681587[/snapback]
And you expect an answer from MJ?

lol

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Maybe he's not the full shilling! Shall I ask him if he's stopped beating the wife - a simple 'Yes', or 'No' will do! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-17 13:21:59
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Dec 17 2009, 01:12 PM) [snapback]681594[/snapback]
WTF !!

explain yourself .

Oh dearie me - are you suggesting that you don't understand that old chestnut? unsure.gif I'm beginning to sense that I have been overestimating your intelligence for which I sincerely apologise.

Perhaps someone else will be good enough to explain that no offence was intended, just as I know you don't intend to offend me. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-17 13:43:11
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Dec 17 2009, 01:30 PM) [snapback]681602[/snapback]
Listen you ****ing wee creep. You have suggested that I am a wife beater on a public forum so don't try and turn this round. You owe me an apology and I want it now.

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I think you may torture yourself over this. If you REALLY thought I was calling you a wife beater despite another poster's explanation of what I described as 'that old chestnut', please do accept my apologies.

I don't expect you to apologise for your comments to me. This is, after all, a forum for big boys and Jaggy can take it on the chin! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-17 13:47:13 I won't be attending as I'm just about to head off to London. I sincerely wish you the very best of luck in attempting to get a solitary straight answer! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-17 13:59:28
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Dec 17 2009, 01:53 PM) [snapback]681625[/snapback]
It's difficult, true, but maybe we'll get one from you SOME day, eh, mj?

Ask me if I'd like to hump you and I'll give you a straight answer Mucky Boy! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-17 14:01:36
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 17 2009, 01:54 PM) [snapback]681626[/snapback]
This is getting tasty.. laugh.gif laugh.gif

Hey you ya beardy knobjockey -have you stopped beating the boyfriend?

A simple 'Yes' or 'No' will do! shutup.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-17 14:06:20
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Dec 17 2009, 01:55 PM) [snapback]681627[/snapback]
Yeah, anyone coming up with that is stuck in some sort of time warp.

I actually recall having a couple of arguements on here with LargsTON about Russell, as I was simply not convinced of what he could achieve at Morton. As a striker, I'm still not convinced, as he is another guy guilty of missing the big chances, but like Wake, he can get those chances. I think we need players like that in the side.

I'm also a fan of his on the wing, as he is ALWAYS capable of wee tricks and beating his man and his delivery was always decent.

When he played for us before the supply was pretty dire through the middle, and very few inviting balls were put across the face of the goal. I reckon he's sharp enough for the first division, and if he gets a regular supply of that sort he'll start knocking in goals.
mortonjag 2009-12-17 14:09:24
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Dec 17 2009, 02:07 PM) [snapback]681634[/snapback]
As it says...

Batten down the hatches

No snow in this bit Flight, but it's bitterly cold.
mortonjag 2009-12-17 14:19:21
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 17 2009, 02:13 PM) [snapback]681639[/snapback]
NO

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mortonjag 2009-12-17 14:37:17
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Dec 17 2009, 02:27 PM) [snapback]681644[/snapback]
in your dreams maybe, but thankfully nowhere else.

PS - heard about the ex-medic who was in court charged with indecent exposure? He was caught feeling Ernest! tongue.gif

Not as but as yon' mortician who was sacked for being in dead earnest! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-17 14:46:35 I don't think the principle's flawed, but it does seem a bit pricey. It doesn't say who will be writing the two newsletters - that's the bit that worries me! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-17 14:52:05
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Dec 17 2009, 02:49 PM) [snapback]681656[/snapback]
Can somebody ask what progress has been made in setting up the new youth academy.

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mortonjag 2009-12-17 15:17:47
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Dec 17 2009, 02:53 PM) [snapback]681658[/snapback]
thought you had a plane to catch? laugh.gif

Metaphorically - aye! laugh.gif

QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Dec 17 2009, 02:56 PM) [snapback]681659[/snapback]
You may not believe this MJ but a helluva lot of work has gone on behind the scenes to get the Youth Academy put in place.

I sincerely hope shareholders will ask for a current update.

I'm delighted to hear that, and I do believe you. wink.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-17 15:21:19
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Dec 17 2009, 03:16 PM) [snapback]681670[/snapback]
It started here as I was heading back from lunch. Heavy sleet/snow showers but only wee flakes so far sad.gif

Still drizzling with broken cloud here!
mortonjag 2009-12-17 15:32:28
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Dec 17 2009, 03:23 PM) [snapback]681678[/snapback]
them indeans out again

Apparently a Mr Donald recently tried to buy a cowboy outfit! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-17 16:46:08
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Dec 17 2009, 04:24 PM) [snapback]681709[/snapback]
Iv told you before, i think of you no different to the next poster, a tosser, just like the rest of us! thumbup2.gif

Are you implying that Mortonjag masturbates? unsure.gif

QUOTE(Boozehound @ Dec 17 2009, 04:29 PM) [snapback]681711[/snapback]
Seriously lads, stop making me read this dross - will someone just tell me the following:

What is/who are the trust?
What is the purpose?
What are they doing at present?
What are their long term plans?
What involvement do they have with Morton in an official capacity?
What official involvement do they hope to have with Morton in future?

Shouldn't be difficult surely?

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mortonjag 2009-12-17 16:50:30
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 17 2009, 03:57 PM) [snapback]681695[/snapback]
Shouldn't weather threads be on sweetiewives.net?

AKA maisierae.org unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-17 16:54:09
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 17 2009, 04:44 PM) [snapback]681718[/snapback]
If you load it up with salad then it's probably cheaper getting it at subway, if you're buying food for one. Tomatoes, lettuce etc. won't last that long in the fridge.

aw!
mortonjag 2009-12-17 20:17:11
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 17 2009, 05:11 PM) [snapback]681744[/snapback]
had the time to reply now.

What is/who are the trust? its a society ran by a board of morton fans on behalf of its members , The board includes me, Danny Goodwin, Stuart Duncan, Jim McColl, Sean Donelly, Brain Patterson...

Nice to know there's one on board! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-17 20:24:58
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Dec 17 2009, 05:01 PM) [snapback]681738[/snapback]
Giving out someone else's personal details on here is out of order

Self appointed polis are out of order.

He really shouldn't have though Blue! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-17 20:27:42
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 17 2009, 08:22 PM) [snapback]681885[/snapback]
your slipping a typo is the best you got rolleyes.gif

Don't be a silly Billy -there's plenty more where that came from.

I thought you'd be at the AGM with Measles and the rest of the Trusties! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-17 20:36:43
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 17 2009, 08:29 PM) [snapback]681888[/snapback]
i have my reasons biggrin.gif if i'd thought i'd have made you my proxy tongue.gif

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If I pretended to Mr Rae that I was you and not me, would he be any more likely to give a straight answer? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-18 05:45:45
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Dec 17 2009, 10:37 PM) [snapback]681960[/snapback]
Cheers Bryan, appreciate it. My only concern is your answer to my last question as it's more than a little vague for my liking..... like the masons! ohmy.gif

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.......and quite unlike a progress report! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-18 06:27:39 Did Shoogly put the final nail in yon' baldy charlatan's coffin, or did the keyboard hit squad bottle out of asking 'the right questions', AND.......

Did Measles/The Cuckoo/the Bearded Tit/ Mr Duncan, Sir? manage to attend in person after asking somebody to enquire after the progress of his the Youth Academy? unsure.gif

When's the new stand going up, or will it rust in pieces?

What are our plans for next season, and more importantly where will the funding come from?

When does Mr. Rae plan to step aside?

What's the score with Riverside and the Car Park

etc.

I always seem to be in 'London' when those Shoogly Shows pop up, and anyway I can't afford the tenner for the ticket! Oh - all right Puggs - I just can't bear the thought of having my questions ignored/deflected/being lied to. Oops - sorry Toby -here's the real truth - I'm sh*t scared I get a sore face from Andy Bryan! laugh.gif

I really DO hope the old fud didn't spend all the time 'answering' questions about the c0ck up with the Cellic match, and spinning yarns about 'stiff talkings to' when the real problem at Cappielow is that they still haven't realised that football players' and Managers' contracts are different from those in the sweatshop sweetie factory at Fort Matilda.

Anyway, I'm sure the old duffer wished you all a very Merry Christmas, as I do him.

Enjoy yersel' Shoogly -you may be a cantankerous and twisted old c*nt but the Trust and the fans are still putty in your hands. It's your toy - make the most of it while you can. There are no pockets in a shroud.

Oh - and DON'T open that parcel with the Rutherglen postmark! smile.gif



mortonjag 2009-12-18 06:42:40
QUOTE(Malt @ Dec 17 2009, 06:29 PM) [snapback]681806[/snapback]
Got 200 shares in Morton and would be willing to sell them if anyone was interested.

Sure it is £150 I paid for them (75p a share).

I'd sit tight if I were you. Have you consulted your stockbroker? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-18 06:51:39 No snow here this morning.
Dundee

mortonjag 2009-12-18 06:53:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 18 2009, 06:46 AM) [snapback]682055[/snapback]
Then again MJ, if you bid for them, wouldn't it encourage you to give up smoking ?

How much do fags cost you each week ?

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Most of the lads supply their services for free. The little Viking can be a wee Scrooge mind you. mellow.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-18 06:56:46 Tiger just sent back a batch of plastic blow up dolls because there was a hole in one.
mortonjag 2009-12-18 07:01:31 here's what somebody says

Have you been breast feeding recently WDE?
mortonjag 2009-12-18 07:04:58
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 18 2009, 07:01 AM) [snapback]682059[/snapback]
Did you go?

Would you have got answers if you had went and asked the questions yourself?

Will you ever answer my question?
The answers to these are no, yes, no by the way.

I feel no one has a right to tell you anything.

Eye reely doo wysh ewe hadde went two ah prawpur skool!

Merry Christmas PD! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-18 07:07:03
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Dec 18 2009, 07:04 AM) [snapback]682062[/snapback]
No it shouldn't be banned, sometimes you need the smokescreen to block out the p1sh on the park.

Get rid of the fags then what next? The fat burds with Mae Hughes lot? Fat folk? lanky folk? People that wear hats?

It's like the Hitler Youth in here sometimes.

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If Shoogly sees that you'll never have to worry about the Shed again! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-18 07:11:53
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 18 2009, 07:09 AM) [snapback]682067[/snapback]
I wouldn't say it's tedious at all mate considering we made him an offer to come back. You just have to look at the standard he's playing at now to see what we've missed out on. sad.gif

'what we couldn't afford'! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-18 07:14:10
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Dec 18 2009, 07:12 AM) [snapback]682070[/snapback]
TBH once Strachan started messing us about when we offered he should have been told to cram it with Weetabix. We ought to have brought in 3 players with the same dosh rather than being made tolook stupid and desperate.

Suppose it made a change from the multiple "McInnes back to Morton?" stuff.

That would have cost us three wages, but I do take your point.
mortonjag 2009-12-18 07:21:49
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 18 2009, 07:15 AM) [snapback]682072[/snapback]
So you wont take any of my points on board or reply to my post?

Thought as much, as I already said...no one has any reason to give you information on last night at all.

I I hope no one does smile.gif

The only points you know anything about are on the end of your little poison darts dear!
[codebox]This gives the wee soul the chance to use 'Pot, kettle, and black' again. He just loves that![/codebox]
mortonjag 2009-12-18 07:34:41
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 18 2009, 07:29 AM) [snapback]682080[/snapback]
Which seem to hit you every time happy.gif

CODE
I wish the jag could work the code box properly

....which is hardly surprising given the amount of practice you've had, dwarf.

Think up your first provocative thread and give yourself a hard on! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-18 07:44:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 18 2009, 07:38 AM) [snapback]682082[/snapback]
Could you two get a room ?

Or MJ's cellar ?

He managed to escape last time! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-18 09:24:33
QUOTE(C B @ Dec 18 2009, 08:30 AM) [snapback]682087[/snapback]
Slightly O/T but did anyone else notice just HOW shoogly Rae was on Saturday? He looked like he'd been riding a horse for a month solid, he is deteriorating huh.gif

PS Its the season of goodwill to ALL men MJ so give the guy a break dry.gif

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I have just wished him a very merry Christmas and told him to enjoy himself. I meant that sincerely.

For all his faults, we at least know who he is, and he ain't slow to speak his mind. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-18 09:34:36
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Dec 18 2009, 08:49 AM) [snapback]682097[/snapback]
Not sure why anyone would be expecting a report on the AGM.

If anyone posts one then fair enough, but this messageboard has no entitlement to first dibs on any reports from Morton.

Won't be long before the lack of a report on here will be cited as yet another Machiavellian wonder plot by DDFR to confuse the masses.

You couldn't make some of this s*** up.

We need to drop the vitriole and venom lads. I am on record as being no great fan of DDFR's.
He has been, and remains, a PR disaster. Some of his business decisions with respect to Morton are dubious at best.

But you know what - for the forseeable future he is all we have - and I am 100% certain he has the best interests of the club at heart, irrespective of anything I've previously written.

Until someone else decides to change that by ploughing their money into the club, then we need to get on with things. And no amount of name calling, bitching or mud slinging is going to change any of that.

There are plenty of clubs in Scotland who would love to have someone with Rae's passion for the club, and continued investment, as their chairman.

Once more, to be clear, I am one of his harshest critics on here - but credit where, and when, it is due.

TonInDublin



TiD, I've always respected you as a sincere man, and I know you put a lot into the Club and only want the best for it.

I've been genuinely upset by all the vitriole and venom about Uncle Donald, and I'm still waiting for a solitary shred of proof of the various allegations.

All I ever provided was information I obtained from a previously thoroughly reliable source.

In the absence of contradictory proof, (and on the balance of probablities) I still believe that we may have missed a genuine opportunity to advance.


mortonjag 2009-12-18 10:14:58
QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporter @ Dec 18 2009, 09:47 AM) [snapback]682106[/snapback]
No amount of proof would ever be enough for you, the accounts say Uncle Donald owes around 20k and DDF confirmed last night that this is still the case, it was also confirmed last night that Addid not pay for the stand but the easiest thing for the few who are to proud to admit they were wrong about Uncle Donald will take the easy route, DDF is telling lies.

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Given that Shoogly and his Trusty poodle had already claimed that the former 'paid' for the stand I did not expect a change of tune at the AGM. If the receipted purchases were invoiced to Golden Casket or GMFC, then of course the accounts will show that the Club paid for them.

Where did the money come from in the first place?

Perhaps those who really want to know the truth should be focusing on what the accounts don't say!

Anyway, you'll keep saying potayto and I'll keep saying potahto and perhaps one day we'll all know why the whole thing was called off! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-18 11:14:38
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 18 2009, 10:22 AM) [snapback]682114[/snapback]
Absolutely bang on.

I wish we could just forget the whole AD thing now and move on. He took us for a ride, end of story.

He is alleged to have taken us for a ride - that's the nub of the matter Bob, and that's what I take issue with.



QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Dec 18 2009, 10:40 AM) [snapback]682121[/snapback]
Ernie, likewise.

I don't think there's been a whole lot of vitriole aimed at AD, and if there has been any it's purely come from frustration I think. When AD joined the board I was very hopeful that we were bringing in a guy with vast business experience and not inconsiderbale wealth.

I hoped for two things ;

1) he'd fix a lot of the inherent PR/marketing/commercial problems I have been so critical of in the past and get a really tight, long term financial and football strategy in place ..... and
2) maybe he'd come to love the place enough to plough money into the club, allowing us to make that next big step.

Neither of these have come to pass, for whatever reason.

The rumblings from the club these past three months have been that all wasn't well - and the subsequent parting of the ways confirms this to be the case.

Now where you sit is where you stand - some people choose to believe that AD was hunted out of the club, and had made plentiful offers of money/investment to the cause - others, myself included, choose to believe that he wasn't all he was cracked up to be, the revelations with respect to the accounts/hospitality bills are no great secret, and there were other issues that were alleged to have been promised and not delivered.

Either way, he's gone. He didn't invest. He does owe the club money according to the accounts.
He has a track record of being at different clubs at different times, all with the same result it would seem, although I have no idea why he departed the scene from thoe clubs.

Was it a missed opportunity ? Maybe. And if he is everything he claimed to be then it would be a big missed opportunity.

I'm not convinced though. And that's all - just not convinced. Based on everything I can glean from the situation my head tells me we've dodged a bullet though.

TonInDublin


I entirely respect the reasonable opinions of others John, and you've now made your position clear. Thanks.

The truth remains, however, that at least on this wee massage board Uncle Donald HAS been the subject of numerous distasteful allegations, none of which has been proven.

I have never denied the fact that figures have been produced which indicate that as of May this year money was owing to the Club, nor have I ever said that the paperwork shows AD as having funded anything. Paperwork and statistics can be very confusing!

I have stated what I have been told by someone I have no reason to distrust - no more and no less. I'll gladly eat humble pie if I see adequate proof that we're rid of a charlatan, as, like yourself, I only want the best for the Club.

Until such proof is forthcoming, I'd suggest that it is only fair to give Uncle Donald the benefit of the doubt. Let's face it, we DO need inward investment.


mortonjag 2009-12-18 11:16:13
QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporter @ Dec 18 2009, 11:10 AM) [snapback]682137[/snapback]
laugh.gif The club was never in any danger for two reasons

1) It was never for sale
2) and If it was AD didn't have the money to buy it. rolleyes.gif

PROOF PLEASE! mad.gif ph34r.gif

mortonjag 2009-12-18 11:20:52
QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporter @ Dec 18 2009, 11:18 AM) [snapback]682141[/snapback]
The purchase of the stand is in last years accounts as being against Morton Football Club. Nowhere in the accounts does it mention any donations or share purchase that would cover the purchase of the stand. How anybody can claim that anyone other than GMFC paid for the stand is beyond me. I'm confident the cost of building the stand which is far greater than the purchase will appear in this years accounts also being paid for by GMFC

It's really simple unless you want to believe that the books are being fiddled and AD handed over a 'vast' amount of cash in a brown envelope to DDF most probably in the Norseman since that's were he did most of his talking. rolleyes.gif

Is that a total impossibility? smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-18 11:24:26
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 18 2009, 11:09 AM) [snapback]682136[/snapback]
£2.1m Mansion
£1.4m second home
£1.7m pad in foreign land
£1.5m freehouses - (I presume pubs or restaurants)
£1m boat
£7.2m stake holdings (whatever that means unsure.gif )
£12.6m shares (on current stock market values)
£17.8m property interests worldwide.
Approx £10m in owned assets (vague - I presume cars, personal property etc)

Would they be regarded as a pauper after losing £14.7m in the hedge fund collapse unsure.gif

Let me guess - you're talking about ..................................


OOOOOPS! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-18 11:28:05 Stuart Duncan
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mortonjag 2009-12-18 11:55:20
QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporter @ Dec 18 2009, 11:34 AM) [snapback]682153[/snapback]
Nothing is impossible and that's the extremely small straw that you and a few others are clinging to.

It's not about clinging to straws - more about wanting proof of the allegations made against Uncle Donald!

QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 18 2009, 11:34 AM) [snapback]682154[/snapback]
jag, in all the years you've posted on here I can't recall a single time you've ate humble pie or apologised so as Jim says, no matter what proof is produced I don't think you'll ever accept it.

I'd suggest it'd be much fairer if you gave the club the benefit of any doubt as the ball's firmly in AD's court. happy.gif

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Well make this the first and give me the proof - that's all I ask! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-18 11:58:57
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Dec 18 2009, 11:31 AM) [snapback]682150[/snapback]
MJ?
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Flight Ton (in his youth)!
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mortonjag 2009-12-18 12:24:00
QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporter @ Dec 18 2009, 12:20 PM) [snapback]682186[/snapback]
I'm no ones lackey, the above is fact and my views on AD are my own.

Maybe best to keep them to yourself.

Are you confused by the terms 'fact' and view' BTW? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-18 12:40:08
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 18 2009, 12:03 PM) [snapback]682170[/snapback]
You know I can't! happy.gif

Why are you siding with AD over this? Honestly, I don't get it. huh.gif

I don't see it as a competition, nor do I understand your question when I've made it abundantly clear what I believe and why I believe it.

I've not stated that I'm any more correct than anybody else, but I repeat my challenge to those who are still making apparently unfounded allegations to provide proof for their statements.

I'm not directing this at you personally, but there's A HELL OF A DIFFERENCE between saying 'I've been given information by a hitherto totally reliable source' and baldly making accusations about numerous 'misdoings', and presenting them as facts.

Believe it or not I really DO want the truth to come out of all this. As and when somebody can show unequivocally that Uncle Donald is the evil loyalist bankrupt so colourfully portrayed by several on this wee massage board, we can for once UNITE as fans and have a right royal bitch fest. Mark my words, Mortonjag will spare him nothing!

Sadly it appears to me that there are certain elements who are more than happy to keep the fans bickering among themselves. They are to be congratulated on their success off the field! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-18 12:42:03
QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporter @ Dec 18 2009, 12:30 PM) [snapback]682194[/snapback]
Looks like Uncle Oliver will have to take to the streets again soon if he wants to raise the money (to pay his debt) and stop the court action against him. rolleyes.gif

Perhaps he'll quote my signature in defence! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-18 13:11:42
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Dec 18 2009, 12:28 PM) [snapback]682193[/snapback]
Off topic, but MJ I have a flat on Newlands Road and it's a bit far out (around four miles) to say it's in Glesca toon! Glasgow overflow perhaps!

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So ThornTON's become a 'toffee nose'! laugh.gif

I imagine you must be at the east end of Newlands Road towards Clarkston Road.

Maybe G43's not even Newlands, let alone Glesca Toon! I'm stuck in the middle of Pollokshaws, Newlands, Shawlands, and - well nowhere really, and nobody seems to know where this is!

Good luck in your flat.
mortonjag 2009-12-18 13:13:26
QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporter @ Dec 18 2009, 12:27 PM) [snapback]682191[/snapback]
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The only person typing up 'memos' is mortonjag and he is doing it on information that came from you.

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and he is being made to look a fool for his troubles

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Yet another bizarre statement and again requiring of proof! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-18 13:17:22
QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporter @ Dec 18 2009, 12:43 PM) [snapback]682199[/snapback]
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Mortonjag chooses his words carefully! blush.gif

QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporter @ Dec 18 2009, 01:02 PM) [snapback]682217[/snapback]
fixed that for you. wink.gif

I must say that I'm shocked and surprised at your tongue's new and unheralded affinity for a 78 year old rectum! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-18 13:26:55
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 18 2009, 12:58 PM) [snapback]682213[/snapback]

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Uncle Donald had a farm
ee aye ee aye oh
Rich and safe and out of harm
ee aye ee aye oh
Then a Shoogle Shoogle here
And a Shoogle Shoogle there
Shoogle Shoogle Shoogle Shoogle
Every bloody where
Uncle Donald had a farm
ee aye ee aye oh! happy.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-18 13:31:32
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 18 2009, 01:28 PM) [snapback]682239[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-12-18 13:46:38
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Dec 18 2009, 01:39 PM) [snapback]682249[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Dec 18 2009, 01:33 PM) [snapback]682244[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Correct I thought that was what this post was all about.

Hmmm, just an observation. Nothing more, nothing less.

But why would anybody that was present at the AGM last night want to post the contents of said AGM?

Is the idea of an AGM not to allow SHAREHOLDERS to attend and get an overview of how the company they ahve invested in is running?

If that is the idea then surely, if anybody wants to know the intricate details of the AGM should they not buy shares and secure an investment?

I am only asking what I believe to be a reasonable question.

In the real world your comments are absolutely spot on. The purpose of most businesses is to make a profit for the shareholders, and one would not expect outsiders to have any great interest.
mortonjag 2009-12-18 14:24:39
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Dec 18 2009, 02:00 PM) [snapback]682263[/snapback]
Yeah, but th einterest that some people (non-shareholders) on this board have is going wat beyond the realms of interest. In fact it is bordering on insanity.

Anyway my friend, I have read your post regarding what did you miss whilst returning from London and judging by the content you know full well what was asked, how it was answered and in deed who farted at 9:03pm.

So maybe it is time fro you take the bullets out of your own hand and pass them to another for them to load the gun?

You quite clearly a mole(s) within the AGM last night feeding you info. My question why then come on here and ask what happened other than to provoke yet more ill-feeling towards DDFR and the club?

In a way I actually "get weher you are coming from" but having spoken to you on here and met you in person you are most certainly a very clever and astute guy, I just wonder sometimes what makes you tick?

I can put my hand on my heart and assure you that I had and have absolutely no way of knowing what went on last night other than what's posted here. The questions I posed were those I'd have asked had I not been 'in London', and I would genuinely like answers to them. As a (by deliberate choice) non shareholder in the club I have to rely on the goodwill of folks like yourself to answer if you believe it's appropriate.

It's refreshing to hear somebody describe me as 'clever and astute' and makes a change from the gullible old fool stuff.

I have absolutely no desire to provoke ill feeling towards Mr Rae, though I'm perpetually saddened by the fact that he does a very good job of that for himself, and I really do wish he'd acknowledge that the time has come to sit back and let others build on what he has achieved.

Complacency is mortals greatest enemy. Nobody should be afraid to ask searching questions, and honest answers will normally be forthcoming unless there is something to hide. For that reason, and for none other except my undying love of Greenock Morton I fully intend to keep firing 'those bullets'!
mortonjag 2009-12-18 14:29:27
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Dec 18 2009, 02:08 PM) [snapback]682270[/snapback]
laugh.gif Definitely MentalJag, I can't quite make up my mind whether or not I'm laughing with or laughing at laugh.gif

What's your problem Measles? What's funny about wishing the Club Chairman a merry Christmas. Is it a prerequisite to kiss his arse all year long? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-18 15:02:09
QUOTE(giz @ Dec 18 2009, 02:51 PM) [snapback]682312[/snapback]
IMO he is still our only creative player at this present time so I would have him in the team every week.He also does so much covering for others that probably isnt seen by everyone?
Agreed he is has not been great this season but I personally would have him first name on the team sheet every week! (and I dont mean in goal before someone gets smart rolleyes.gif )

It depends on what you perceive as being 'creative'. I think DVZ is by far our most creative player. He reads the game very well, has bags of experience, and is constantly bringing others into the game. For all the criticism McGuffie takes, he often adds a bit of invention to our play too, and if Spoonsy had a razor sharp partner his undoubted creativity would blossom.

I think Jimbo has gone completely stale and I feel sorry for the boy. It's long past time for him to stop being a big fish in a small pond with a move to fresh beginnings.
mortonjag 2009-12-18 15:10:00
QUOTE(rawheed rex @ Dec 18 2009, 10:10 AM) [snapback]682111[/snapback]
you cant get honey from sh ite.

...........though pish is frequently loaded with sugar!
mortonjag 2009-12-18 15:55:19
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Dec 18 2009, 03:37 PM) [snapback]682331[/snapback]
I'm pretty sure Puggsy went to Caledonian. However, I got my degree from the University of Strathclyde and I'd be interested to know what you think is wrong with it.

So did two of my kids and although it's not QUITE a proper University it's getting there!

Caley, on the other hand, is still wearing academic nappies.

I think the Newt may have been referring to Strathclyde as a region mind you. wink.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-18 16:04:30
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 18 2009, 03:59 PM) [snapback]682335[/snapback]
University Snobbery rolleyes.gif

I know Bryan, I can't stand it myself - the proper Scottish Universities could knock spots off those Oxbridge wallahs in a boat race any old day! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-18 16:06:55
QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporter @ Dec 18 2009, 03:58 PM) [snapback]682334[/snapback]
We are better than all that and should be able to turn the other cheek without letting ourselves down and resorting to other matters, FFS it's almost 2010.

You've been on a different planet all day Kojak - 14.05 on my trusted timepiece! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-19 07:14:10
QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporter @ Dec 18 2009, 02:36 PM) [snapback]682293[/snapback]
There is no new unheralded affinity, my views on the chairman are as they always have been I was only pointing out that your willingness to accept that Uncle Donald was the new Saviour and Uncle Dougie chased him away is down to your dislike and total inability not to pursue at every turn your witch hunt on the Chairman.

I'm surprised you never brought the 'Trust' into this one either.

Don't be ridiculous tinsel top - I've just wished the old fud a Merry Christmas, and there's absolutely no need for you to describe him as a witch either!

I do agree that it's hard to disentangle the Trust from anything to do with kind Uncle Donald, but there you go -Jaggy can perform little miracles! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-19 08:47:51 I've just read Toby's report of the Club AGM and am bemused but unsurprised by the total about turn performed by the Club.

When Alistair Donald resigned the Club issued this statement:


Alistair Donald has resigned from the Board of Directors of Greenock Morton, effective immediately which was confirmed by an email received on 8th December 2009.

Alistair intimated that, “Over the last few months my business commitments both in the UK and in New York have taken off and I am unlikely to have the time to support the Club in a way which I feel is appropriate.†He stated further that, “It has been a real privilege to have been associated with the Club. I do hope that the Club which is a fantastic Community Club can realise its aspirations.â€

Alistair has been a Board Member since Season 2008-2009. The Club would like to thank him for his input and wish him continued success and best wishes for the future.
Posted on 10 December, 2009


Here are Toby's comments:

Right, down to the nitty-gritty - Alistair Donald. Danny Goodwin asked what he contributed to the club, only for the chairman to mutter "Nothing", confirming he resigned from the board on the 8th December 2009. Crawford Rae went on to say that he had been brought into the club as he seemed to share the Raes' dream of SPL football, and the thought of a fresh face with new ideas appealed. However, given the time he spent in New York and Helsinki, due to his other business commitments, he felt he couldn't dedicate the necessary time to his role at Cappielow. A partner in Accenture Consultancy he was seen to have worthy experience and was placed in charge of revenue and grants. Asked if Mr. Donald fulfilled his financial commitment to the club, the chairman replied, "No, he is indebted to the club and is being pursued."

Toby concluded the report with:


If we can reach one conclusion from the night, at least we can be sure that Alistair Donald wasn't the knight in shining armour some made him out to be. Here endeth that chapter.

That may very well be the conclusion of those who attended the AGM, but for me there are still unanswered questions about the whole AD situation, and may I pre-empt those who will tell this gullible old fool to 'put it to bed' that Shoogly hasn't.

He's pursuing a top level partner in Accenture for, I gather, a few thousand pounds. For posters who know nothing about Accenture, here's a wee 'snippit':

About Accenture
Accenture is a global management consulting, technology services and outsourcing company, with more than 176,000 people serving clients in more than 120 countries. Combining unparalleled experience, comprehensive capabilities across all industries and business functions, and extensive research on the world’s most successful companies, Accenture collaborates with clients to help them become high-performance businesses and governments. The company generated net revenues of US$21.58 billion for the fiscal year ended Aug. 31, 2009. Its home page is www.accenture.com.


So - to the title of my thread. I look at the history of Greenock Morton under Douglas Rae's guidance, and note his recent cautionary words about lack of cash. I see a successful, but in global terms minute, confectionery business pursuing a partner in an International Organisation with NET revenues of twenty two BILLION dollars, and I think to myself that the alleged debt is chicken feed to Mr Donald. I also ask myself why such a wealthy and successful businessman would risk his international reputation for the price of a private jet from his Home Counties mansion to the Monte Carlo grand prix!

Things just don't add up. Mr Donald was in no hurry to join the Board - indeed I started a long running, controversial, and sometimes very bitter thread regarding his whereabouts almost six months after he 'became' a director. Only a personal email to me from Crawford Rae assuring me that the papers had not been signed 'because Alistair was out of the country' finally resolved the confusion. At that time I cast doubt on Mr Donald's bona fides and intentions (never on his financial success) and was roundly shouted down by several posters who could not speak highly enough of Mr Donald as a gentlemen, and who assured me that he was a longstanding family friend of the Raes.

Then we had the interim phase when Mr Donald appeared regularly at Cappielow and during which his support was mentioned on more than one occasion by David Irons, and the players.

For the moment I'm willing to forget what I've been told of Mr Donald's contributions to the club (which I firmly believe to be the correct story), and concentrate on the probabilities.

International multi millionaire businessman concocts evil plot to con struggling small town football club out of a few voddies and the price of a good night in the Big Apple?


AYE RIGHT! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-19 09:27:58
QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporter @ Dec 19 2009, 09:12 AM) [snapback]682569[/snapback]
What I told you was I had had rumours that he was involved in a consortium trying to buy out St Mirren, can you confirm if this was the case or not, I don't know if this was the truth or not but you will know better than me as I believe you know the man or are been fed information from someone close to him.
I believe you told me that there was an offer on the table but that was subject to final finishing positions in the league, you also told me DDF was trying to price out AD. rolleyes.gif

You shouldn't listen to rumours, and worse, you shouldn't pass them on.

I give you the concept of a Shoogly chain letter! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-19 09:40:01
QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporter @ Dec 19 2009, 09:34 AM) [snapback]682573[/snapback]
The difference here is I listened to the 'rumou'r which I was told was just 'rumour' and I passed on what I heard along with what was my understanding 'it was just a rumour' not FACT.

I have to say that it is indeed yourself and Barbarossa who has been taken in by the concept of a Uncle Donald chain letter! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Well here's a fact.

Alistair Donald has at no time been asked to give his comments on the events of the last year or so.

And here's a rumour.

Ninety percent of posters on this massage board think the moon is made of green cheese! laugh.gif
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mortonjag 2009-12-19 09:45:39
QUOTE(Zutons @ Dec 19 2009, 09:44 AM) [snapback]682581[/snapback]
lol @ mj laugh.gif

It's a weather forecast dear, not a bloody prescription for downers! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-19 09:46:38
QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporter @ Dec 19 2009, 09:43 AM) [snapback]682579[/snapback]
sorted that for you. rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2009-12-19 09:49:59
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Dec 18 2009, 08:34 PM) [snapback]682431[/snapback]
If you really want to suprise someone, go buy some Tongue painter lollipops (you know the ones that turn your tongue whatever colour the lolly is). The thing is they also turn your next jobby the same colour, so either eat a yellow or blue one, go for a log in a pals house, don't flush and then leave them to find the most confusing bum barge ever in their lavvy.

You could of course just plunge the lolly up and down your arse for half an hour! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-19 09:51:52
QUOTE(Zutons @ Dec 19 2009, 09:50 AM) [snapback]682589[/snapback]
That will be up to police match commander.

Is he a Dundee supporter?
mortonjag 2009-12-19 09:53:29
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 19 2009, 09:49 AM) [snapback]682586[/snapback]
First I've heard of it but the thing is Dom COULD now be genuinely injured but due to past form when's he ever going to be given the benefit of the doubt again. Certainly not by me anyway.

The fact he's on 2 written warnings means one more indiscretion and we can terminate his contract, right? unsure.gif

That's the norm and then he could take Shoogly to a Tribunal! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-19 09:56:21
QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporter @ Dec 19 2009, 09:52 AM) [snapback]682591[/snapback]
Ah I've just noticed what you have been doing, I'm now one of the ones that disagree with you so I've now been added to the list of people you give pet names and personal abuse to. rolleyes.gif

FFS baldy... laugh.gif

I didn't call you 'Baldy' - merely thought the picture of you chasing those rainbows was a wee bit flattering.

If you'd like a nickname I'll work on that.

If you'd like personal abuse, evenings in my cellar come at a variable price! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-19 09:57:34
QUOTE(Zutons @ Dec 19 2009, 09:53 AM) [snapback]682592[/snapback]
What happens if he is Dundee United supporter? ph34r.gif

He goes to Tannadice every odd Saturday? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-19 10:03:41
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 19 2009, 10:00 AM) [snapback]682599[/snapback]
He wouldn't have leg to stand on, I suspect.

I'd also imagine in such a scenario you'd be throwing your full weight behind DDFR and the Club as none of us like to be taken in by a chancer, right? smartass.gif thumbup2.gif

So long as 'you suspect', that's fine by me.

Just don't go posting that he was the centre of a love triangle involving Andy Bryan and Alistair Donald - after all we don't want the hamper boy's name sullied on our wee massage board! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-19 10:05:32
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 19 2009, 10:03 AM) [snapback]682602[/snapback]
rip.gif rip.gif rip.gif

3,200 is an easily achievable averge if we get the team right on the park. I'd even suggest we could reach a 4,000 average if fighting at the top of the table. However, you're quite correct in that we should budget for the low end of the scale meaning should we do better than expected more money would then be available.

Yip -Shoogly's having to downsize big style and it could have been SO different! crying.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-19 11:21:55
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Dec 19 2009, 10:31 AM) [snapback]682615[/snapback]
One of my staff retired last week and after some though I wrote on his card that I wished him all the best for a long and happy retirement. I could have wrote 'thank god you have finally gone you useless, idle waste of oxygen, but it wouldn't really be the done thing. Equally if GMFC have had issues with AD then I'm not surprised they didn't choose the moment of his leaving to air them in public.

As for the success or failure of companies that AD is associated with why is that material in any way to how he may or may not conduct himself in his private 'business' affairs. There are no shortage of examples of rich, successful people who are anything but paragons of virtue and I've met a few who are the last to dip their hand in their pocket when it's time to buy a round.

International business man plays the big I am in front of his pals at no cost seems just as likely an explanation and the fact that GMFC have decided to pursue him for monies owed suggests that there may be a little more than rumour to it.

However feel free to flog your dead horse.

What are your qualifications in terms of confirming the death of horses?

Feel free to accept a unilateral presentation, without even considering AD's side of the story. I'm sure you DON'T do that in your business! There is no shortage of examples of small town one man businesses being operated in a Victorian setting by Del Boy shysters either! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-19 11:26:59
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Dec 19 2009, 11:20 AM) [snapback]682628[/snapback]
Asked if Mr. Donald fulfilled his financial commitment to the club, the chairman replied, "No, he is indebted to the club and is being pursued." Waves to Mortonjag)

WTF is that supposed to mean? Is Andy Bryan pedalling his BMX like f*ck after the baldy devil's Bentley in a feeble attempt to retrieve Shoogly's shades? dry.gif

Rae is a past master of spin. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-19 11:29:33
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 19 2009, 11:27 AM) [snapback]682634[/snapback]
Questioning the audited accounts again? unsure.gif

Is that illegal you stunted wee cretin?
mortonjag 2009-12-19 11:37:47
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 19 2009, 11:32 AM) [snapback]682637[/snapback]
lol, well rattled

True Smeggy! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-19 11:51:04
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Dec 19 2009, 11:32 AM) [snapback]682638[/snapback]
Er I don't know what the truth is ... but I don't think it gives me any confidence in DDFR's judgement but also makes our future look precarious.

...and Chris, we both know that he DOES have a history of pursuing folk for money they don't owe! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-19 11:57:50
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 19 2009, 10:32 AM) [snapback]682617[/snapback]
So you believe in rumours do you? That explains a lot. Damn pesky rumour mongers.
I have no idea if AD is about to buy into St.Midden, that came from your napper pal. Some of the conjecture flying around came directly from your good self.

You believed wrong, at no time have I EVER said an offer was on the table as I believe an offer was never put on the table. rolleyes.gif (From the horse mouth “I have no plans to invest in Morton as YETâ€. It was clear to SD and was made clear to me also.
What was spoken about was how much investment was required to get us out of the rut and back into the SPL. A figure of £5m was banded as being a reasonable cost of aquiring Morton and moving them on to another level. FYI, and as I told you at the time, this came directly from the Club, not from AD, although AD did not deny the figure when I put it to him, in fact he said it was a reasonable assessment.

Neither did I say DDF was trying to price out AD. (confusing statement that one). If you mean valuations of what the club is worth presently then yes, I believe those valuations are/where miles apart.

I may post my recollection of my conversation with AD on a webpage, (just as Sd did), along with detailed information I have in my possesion about how much certain individuals are really worth and how much others are feeling the pinch.
I am cautious of legalities surrounding this hence the reason I have never posted any detailed account on this site to date.



A defamation suit can only be successful if nasty things have been said INCORRECTLY. -not just because they sound nasty!

Calling 'Baldy' an apparently misguided buffoon who hangs on ever word that splutters from that decrepit old Shooglemeister's cake hole, is not defamatory.

Stating that AD 'conned' said decrepit old fud may well be! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-20 08:20:35
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Dec 19 2009, 11:00 PM) [snapback]683029[/snapback]
Funny how people run for cover, any cover, when they are asked to put up or shut up.



I don't find your on going anonymity remotely amusing, Measles/ Cuckoo/ Bearded Tit/ Mr Duncan, Sir?

Care to put up, or shut up. happy.gif

Oh, and to Smiffy and TiD, how much does AD receive from Accenture in each cheque? laugh.gif


mortonjag 2009-12-20 08:39:40
LOCAL FOOTBALL CHAIRMAN SACKS CHIEF EXECUTIVE




And all because the lady loves someone who Milk Tray! sleep.gif
The pursuit!

mortonjag 2009-12-20 08:42:50
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Dec 20 2009, 08:38 AM) [snapback]683085[/snapback]
Who cares, it won't be coming in our direction.

Oh don't be so naive and childish. It'll be settled when AD can be arsed, Rae will make another stage managed announcement of an 'Out of Court Settlement', and that will be taken as proof that the baldy rogue bottled out of a court action! laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-20 08:46:07
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 19 2009, 08:59 PM) [snapback]682999[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif

Genius.

Clearly the voice of experience! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-20 09:12:56 I haven't read the thread so apologies if I repeat anything.

What a miserable day. We finally got there at 2.45 or so to find that the Away support was being entertained in a rickety old shack of a stand with turnstyles even slower than those at Scapa.

Shoogly must have been late too as he made good speed up the middle of the icy road with the aid of his stick. I was surprised to hear some fans making a joke about 'Scrooge' -but there you go, and if they post here they'll know what I'm talking about!!! laugh.gif

The players ran out clapping the Dundee support in our 'usual' stand -thought that really amusing, and said supporters were as quiet as mice until they'd scored their second.

We equalled them in the first - I have no doubt of that. Even when Spoonsy scored we could easily have taken something from the game.

That wee rat looked two yards offside when he scored their first! sleep.gif

Their second was the direct result of a wasted dead ball by us and an inspired breakaway.

Their third came from an inexplicable decision by Big Bad Dom to push out for a corner when he could have hooked it clear. I thought our defence and particularly Colin Stewart became very nervous towards the end, but over the piece they played pretty well and Stewart really had no more to do than Douglas who certainly kept them in the game more than once, and how I wish that Pantaloons blockbuster had gone in.

Our support was sadly decimated, and the small section of youngsters who did try to make some noise were persecuted by a couple of Muppet Stewards and two Goons of policemen.

Nobody was particularly good or bad for us. LEAFY huffed and puffed and drew defenders about the place but got nothing for his efforts. His couple of obvious gaffes made him look far worse than he really was. Both Finners and Jimbo made a couple of inspiring runs in the first half but they disappeared in the second. Spoonsy's goal was well taken -perfectly placed header. I thought again that Pantaloons was strong and effective from midfield, but Casino seems not the ideal central midfield partner and at times looked lost.

Was it worth going? I think so. We've been competing well against the best in this league with limited resources and still have injury problems. We COULD have taken something yesterday - anybody who believes otherwise was not there.

Grady has time on his side and I'm utterly confident of a victory against AYR. Just a pity that the crowd will be so small and the Cowshed dumb as always those days.
mortonjag 2009-12-20 20:16:35
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 19 2009, 01:46 PM) [snapback]682704[/snapback]
I really don't see how it's a backward attitude. I have already said I appreciate the guy was confused about his sexuality.
But he ruined someone elses life by entering a sham of a marriage. I find it hard to have any sympathy for him.

Perhaps better than entering a 15 year old rent boy's arse? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-21 06:38:26
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Dec 20 2009, 08:56 AM) [snapback]683089[/snapback]
Sorry MJ but I'm not the one sitting here with a petted lip dreaming up ever more bizarre theories to cover my embarrassment about claims I have made on this board.

The day AD resigned from the GMFC was the day he dropped of my radar and I couldn't give a flying **** about whether or not he might have been the messiah. He's gone, the earth hasn't stopped spinning and most of the world has moved on. It would probably make sense if you did the same.

Soundbites ya dafty! Shoogly's spinning on the spot!

QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Dec 20 2009, 11:38 AM) [snapback]683159[/snapback]
I think anyone who drinks in the Norseman pre-match (and at half-time) can testify to AD's fondness for a tipple. laugh.gif laugh.gif


Uncle Donald now confirmed as degenerate alcoholic! laugh.gif


QUOTE(TaunTon @ Dec 20 2009, 02:10 PM) [snapback]683194[/snapback]
I can't think of too many that are happy with the clubs performance on or off the park over the past few years but until someone else comes in with an offer that Dougie will accept then you can bitch and whine until you are blue in the face and precisely nothing will change.

GMFC is Dougie's private toy and we're just bit players.

When you haven't the guts to repel a rapist, lie back, spread your legs, and scream that it was inevitable! dry.gif ph34r.gif

QUOTE(TaunTon @ Dec 20 2009, 02:43 PM) [snapback]683208[/snapback]
I don't disagree about any of that Barbarossa but AD doesn't appear to me to be worth investing the time or energy to discuss.


Why are you posting then - wouldn't it be more fun sitting on the lavvy reading Fairy stories, or writing the next eulogy for some poor c*nt you're about to sack? huh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-21 06:57:00
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Dec 20 2009, 08:17 PM) [snapback]683449[/snapback]
Yeah, the usual anti-DDF drivel from MJ (the language doesn't fool me Ernie). DDF may have his faults, as we all do, but if he chucked it in tomorrow not only would we not have a new WDE Stand but the Club would probably go under within 1-2 years. We should remember that it was only last week at the AGM that the Chairman pledged (yet again) to have the WDE Stand ready in time for next season, which was always the target date, at at a cost of some £300K and confirmed that his company would not be pursuing the £815K Morton FC owes it (as at 31 May 2009). All this and this is the thanks he gets from 'supporters' like MJ. mad.gif

Don't get personal with me Smiffy! laugh.gif

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 20 2009, 10:03 PM) [snapback]683581[/snapback]
My thoughts are, respectively:

1) He's spent a lot for variable returns. The initial £400k kept the club in existence. Each £ 200- 250k in the succeeding years brought the club from the 3rd to the 1st division, but slowly, sometimes painfully and nearly always with little entertainment value.
2) The present administration has clearly stated ambitions towards gaining SPL status, and thereafter maintaining that status. Whether such status will yield profits sufficient to balance the books is anyone's guess though, especially so in these troubled times for Scottish football.
3) The chairman may seem a little distant from the 'common-or-garden supporter' from time to time, just as the Morton support may feel the same way towards him. I think you're completely wrong however in thinking that he his contemptuous of the Morton support. In my experience he appears to be quite the opposite, albeit sometimes in a patronising manner.

FFS Edwards, if you really believe that you're more demented than the old fud himself.

EVERYTHING at Cappielow must reflect Rae's ego. It will just be terribly terribly sad (I may even shed a tear between titters) if the Douglas Rae Memorial Stand rusts in pieces behind the Cowshed. Who gives a toss anyway -AD paid relative buttons for it, and who needs a big stand for crowds of less than 1500? unsure.gif

Beggars can't be choosers unless you're Shoogly.....ask Uncle Donald.....ask NewTON even.

mortonjag 2009-12-21 07:01:09 I have a little spare cash I wish to invest wisely. Am I likely to see an early return on an investment of £120. If so, consider that a bid! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-21 07:03:21
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 20 2009, 10:32 AM) [snapback]683113[/snapback]
Some of the sweetie wives on here would insinuate that can't possibly happen as there would be a Clinton style expose.. laugh.gif

I swear I only told Monica to sack the cook! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-21 07:07:09
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 20 2009, 07:39 PM) [snapback]683385[/snapback]
Hope she is still around for hogmanay! tongue.gif

Dream on dwarf!

Do you still masturbate with your right hand BTW?

A simple 'Yes' or 'No' will suffice.

Why is it that every time a scantily clad young woman is portrayed on this wee massage board, certain posters feel obliged to assert their heterosexuality?

No smoke without fire ya wee pouffe? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Are you free again this Saturday evening?

A simple 'Yes' or 'No' will suffice!
mortonjag 2009-12-21 09:33:04
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 21 2009, 08:13 AM) [snapback]683666[/snapback]
laugh.gif You're confusing 'stands' here I think. The Douglas Rae memorial stand is planned for the Sinclair Street end. The one that you refer to, i.e. the one that Uncle Donald didn't pay for, is planned for the Wee Dublin end. biggrin.gif

Oh I see - so the Wee Dublin End will have the 'Big Escape' Stand, and Sinclair Street will have the 'Douglas Rae of the inveterately kissed arse Memorial Stand', and Big Gillian will win Miss Scotland 2100? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-21 09:34:34
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 21 2009, 07:51 AM) [snapback]683665[/snapback]
By "early return" do you mean in your lifetime ??

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I mean early in my lifetime! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-21 09:56:24 I'm dreaming of a sh1te Christmas - we're playing Ayr and should I go
It'll sure be pissin' - may be well worth missin' Auld Shoogly and his 'Ho Ho Ho'
I'm dreamin' of a sh1te Christmas with every nasty post I write
May you gays stay well out of sight, lest poor Spurtle top himself in fright! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-21 10:00:18
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Dec 21 2009, 09:32 AM) [snapback]683673[/snapback]
Oh so you are repelling rapists at the mo. Here was me thinking you we're just desperately trying to deflect attention from another one of your failed predictions.

I'm repelling rapists darling.

Merry Christmas! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-21 10:04:35
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Dec 21 2009, 09:36 AM) [snapback]683676[/snapback]
I propose that we name the coalyard car park after your good self - if it makes you any happier.

I couldn't be any happier Cloth Ears. In fact I'm ecstatic. I think we have the super dooperest Chairman a demented and gullible fool could ever pray for.

...and I think he's a dud. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-21 10:17:27
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ Dec 20 2009, 06:27 PM) [snapback]683289[/snapback]
Was in Smiths yesterday and they have half & half Morton/C****c scarfs for sale at a tenner. mad.gif

What self respecting fans of any team outside the OF would want this draped around their necks.

While I like Smiths as a shop and the owners have previously been very good to me (in terms of sponsorship) I hope thet they are left with them and have to donate them to some war torn part of the world to keep the locals warm.

These things are OK when you are playing a GOOD team or someone unusual, even producing a few half & half scarfs with Morton and the Italian side who be far better.

Lighten up. Pair of scissors, can of petrol, and you've got one for the wean and one for bonfire night.
mortonjag 2009-12-21 10:19:05
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Dec 21 2009, 10:15 AM) [snapback]683691[/snapback]
The coalyard car park, like yourself, has a view.................... but it's mainly in the dark and full of holes and has generally seen better days. But you are entitled to an opinion of course and on some counts I 'll agree with you .If you wish to 'crusade' against the best Chairman we've ever had -i'll have to leave you at that point.

I've got xmas shopping to do - I'll catch up with yer insults later wink.gif

Poundland's yer best bet for hearing aid batteries! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-21 10:23:05
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Dec 20 2009, 10:19 PM) [snapback]683584[/snapback]
Her agent was lining her up for a part in 6 feet under ph34r.gif

What a horrible thing to say - run along and wash your mouth out with carbolic soap.

Will the Trust be sending a bouquet BTW? bag.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-21 10:24:55
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 21 2009, 09:41 AM) [snapback]683678[/snapback]
There is the problem. Teachers on the internet rather than teaching. For shame. mad.gif

Pupils on the internet may well be the problem, Peter! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-21 10:25:35
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Dec 21 2009, 10:23 AM) [snapback]683696[/snapback]
and to you and yours smile.gif

wink.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-21 10:53:13
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Dec 21 2009, 10:44 AM) [snapback]683702[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-12-21 10:55:44
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Dec 21 2009, 10:10 AM) [snapback]683690[/snapback]
Because that's what men do. Well, that and DIY.

Boys? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-21 11:08:23
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Dec 21 2009, 11:06 AM) [snapback]683714[/snapback]
i hope it doesnt put you off going to your club then..

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mortonjag 2009-12-21 11:30:08
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Dec 21 2009, 11:10 AM) [snapback]683719[/snapback]
What do you think of the show so far Ernie ?

Not bad Guv! smile.gif

mortonjag 2009-12-21 11:31:40
QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporter @ Dec 21 2009, 11:10 AM) [snapback]683720[/snapback]
laugh.gif

I cannot believe you mentioned/remebered that, I was convinced Barbarossa would have been first in with that, thats why I held off.
You are indeed correct though.

Hope you checked that with Shoogly first! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Merry Christmas Kojak! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-21 11:34:17
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Dec 21 2009, 11:25 AM) [snapback]683728[/snapback]
Dunno about the 'lately' bit, it always has been a bit of a loonball magnet. smile.gif

Takes one to know one!

Merry Christmas to both of you. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-21 11:39:36 I have met innumerable pouffes and junkies. Strangely enough I've discovered that they are real people. I have a couple of pouffes as downstairs neighbours and the only reason I know they are pouffes is because they told me. I'd be a bit apprehensive about having junkies as neighbours, but it might be ok once I got into the habit.
mortonjag 2009-12-21 11:40:59
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Dec 21 2009, 11:39 AM) [snapback]683738[/snapback]
Just call me Eric

Ok Ernie! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-21 11:47:19
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Dec 21 2009, 11:45 AM) [snapback]683743[/snapback]
Ok eric! blink.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

....or we could be the Two Ronnies! wink.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-21 11:49:00

QUOTE(IainMorton @ Dec 21 2009, 11:35 AM) [snapback]683737[/snapback]
My tickets arrived special delivery at 10:30 this morning. happy.gif

Forceps?
mortonjag 2009-12-21 11:54:54
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Dec 21 2009, 11:50 AM) [snapback]683747[/snapback]
or Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.

Or Mary and Joseph in stable bare, and bags you go Mary.
mortonjag 2009-12-21 12:06:53
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Dec 21 2009, 12:04 PM) [snapback]683754[/snapback]
Shirley you should be a wise man Ernie.

I wouldn't wan't to upstage the current Board of Directors! huh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-21 12:47:27
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Dec 21 2009, 12:14 PM) [snapback]683761[/snapback]
That's right up there with Puggsy's jokes about Paedophiles as probably one of the most distasteful posts in the history of this board.

It was not intended to be a joke Ratarse, nor was it intended to be distasteful.

Do you understand the concept of analogy?

Oh and Merry Christmas! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-21 12:50:12
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Dec 21 2009, 12:15 PM) [snapback]683762[/snapback]
My mum is a pensioner and no way would I put her through such an ordeal.

The mind boggles! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-21 12:54:23
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 21 2009, 12:49 PM) [snapback]683777[/snapback]
Mortonjag is to doctor as Josef Mengele is to... doctor

^^^
best analogy

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Smeggy is to sarcasm as fly is to jobby!

Merry Christmas to you too and don't overdo the Plum Duff!
mortonjag 2009-12-21 12:58:42
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Dec 21 2009, 12:47 PM) [snapback]683775[/snapback]
no, i dont need to know what the opinions, beleifs, good deeds or whatever a gay guy has for me to not agree or like his sexual preferences, I dont care how 'nice' a person he is, i still belive what he is doing is un natural and sick, as for un changable, if they have a hormone inbalance which turns them into ballet loving queens, then that could be easily reversed at the hospital.

Your opinions might change if you discovered that a dearly beloved son turned out to be a pouffe. There again you might beat him to death.
mortonjag 2009-12-21 13:53:12
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Dec 21 2009, 01:36 PM) [snapback]683807[/snapback]
Don't bother trying to patronise me, it doesn't work. Analogy or not, your post was crass and distasteful.

I'm not in the business of patronising anybody Ratarse - hadn't you noticed?

Anyway, I do hope you have a really nice Christmas. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-21 13:57:57
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Dec 21 2009, 01:46 PM) [snapback]683818[/snapback]
League tables are a pointless load of s*** anyway.

Bang on the money son!
mortonjag 2009-12-21 14:03:26
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Dec 21 2009, 01:12 PM) [snapback]683794[/snapback]
but doctor surely what counts is the here and now, the position I am in today, if I were to use your criteria for my opinions then I would have to take everything that isnt true now into account, what if my son becomes a mass murderer ? have I now to have sympathy for them, what if he becomes a rapist, do I support them now ? right now my opinion on gays is that it is wrong.. I dont agree with it, and it makes me sick... whats the problem with having that opinion and typing it on this forum ?

You see, you are far more open minded than you ever imagined!



QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Dec 21 2009, 01:55 PM) [snapback]683829[/snapback]
Cowshed Warrior is entitled to his opinion as much as others are on Diversity. Plenty of folk with Christian beliefs think the same as Warrier due to us being here to re-populate etc etc. But it's getting to be a dodgy subject now as people get lifted for homophobic abuse or sacked from workplaces for similar.

I've no issue's with people being gay or them having the right to Civil Partnerships. I don't agree with them having the right to adopt children at this moment in time however. The poor kid would get pelters at school and we need to make more inroads in this diverse world before it becomes more common.

What does get up my goat tho is Bi -guys. Greedy bastirts go oot at the weekend and if they canny get a burd they go for a guy with a hairy erse laugh.gif I don't mind Bi wimmen tho, I'd give up my Celtic cup ticket if any of the boards resident wimmen want tae put on a floor show.

Coming to think about it, there could be a few quid made for the club here. A smokers night to raise funds for new players. I'm sure the ticket sales would go quicker than the Stars of 79 Night. Tontastic could make a few Quid by doing DVD's.

I'll no put you doon for a ticket tho Warrior, cos I know you don't like anything like that.

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mortonjag 2009-12-21 14:06:24
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Dec 21 2009, 02:01 PM) [snapback]683835[/snapback]
Oooi, you can smoke 20 at a time, I'm gonnae shove 'em up yer erse!!!! laugh.gif

...one at a time and lit? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-21 14:08:30
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Dec 21 2009, 02:02 PM) [snapback]683836[/snapback]
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Dec 21 2009, 07:07 AM)
Dream on dwarf!

Do you still masturbate with your right hand BTW?

A simple 'Yes' or 'No' will suffice.
I wish you pair would just stop flirting on every thread and just get it on like Donkey Kong. First one to pin the other one down and pump them to death wins (clearly)

wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-21 14:33:08
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Dec 21 2009, 02:31 PM) [snapback]683855[/snapback]
I was waiting for that one. smile.gif

So was I. I expected it to come from one of the weans mind you! happy.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-21 14:36:20
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Dec 21 2009, 02:33 PM) [snapback]683859[/snapback]
laugh.gif As ludicrous and untrue statements on here go, THAT one takes the whole box of Christmas biscuits!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I hope you're not calling me a liar Mucky Boy! unsure.gif

Merry Christmas and lang may yer bum leak! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-21 15:03:22
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Dec 21 2009, 03:01 PM) [snapback]683865[/snapback]
Well done again Toby - superb report.
Budgetting for 3200 - total nonsense - everyone (well almost) knew attendances would fall .

What really annoys me is that there were around 40 shareholders present, many of whom attend year after year aftyer year, yet sit tight and don't ask any questions.
I don't see any purpose in them going, unless they're just looking for free tea and scones.

Well at least that's something in return for their cash! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-21 15:09:24
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 21 2009, 03:08 PM) [snapback]683871[/snapback]
Go **** yourself, I don't want wished a merry Christmas by you. You are poison.

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...and a happy New Year! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-21 15:10:40
QUOTE(Alibi @ Dec 21 2009, 03:07 PM) [snapback]683870[/snapback]
Going to be a reasonable atmosphere then...

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mortonjag 2009-12-21 16:30:50
QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporter @ Dec 21 2009, 04:28 PM) [snapback]683916[/snapback]
The FACTS are that you can still get a ticket for the HOME end in Smiths as we speak but you have not a chance in hell in getting a ticket for the AWAY end unless you are on the away ticket register at Celtic Park. wink.gif

This game has not sold out yet.

Nice of Shoogly to keep his fans updated! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-21 16:34:15
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 21 2009, 03:53 PM) [snapback]683896[/snapback]
I've never understood the fascination amongst straight men about what gay men get up to. I'm assuming straight men only get upset about homosexuality if they don't know any gay men, in the same way that people might get upset about Islam if you didn't know anyone who was a Muslim.

Next thing you'll be suggesting that we're fascinated by your dress sense too Peter!
mortonjag 2009-12-21 16:48:52
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Dec 21 2009, 03:58 PM) [snapback]683901[/snapback]
Yep, I suppose Neilston is a well known slum on the outskirts of Glasgow... rolleyes.gif

Plenty of schools with a "positive ethos" but who unfortunately still attain poor results. You don't have to perform a pareto analysis to establish the most important factor in academic achievement...

It has its moments, its 'Bovis', and its schemes! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-22 07:26:29
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 21 2009, 07:00 PM) [snapback]683954[/snapback]
See whatever Mortonjag has ever said about Uncle Donald, negate that and you'll get the jist smile.gif


You are 'JIST' illiterate, Dwarf. You went to no University. ph34r.gif
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Dec 21 2009, 07:22 PM) [snapback]683966[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-12-22 07:34:43
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 21 2009, 08:49 PM) [snapback]684030[/snapback]
Aye, just like this one

[attachment=6156:dickhead.jpg]

That's Hiddenah Jendah, the TRUSTY guy used by 'the Club' to mastermind kind Uncle Donald's departure!

If you look carefully you'll notice a spot on his brow. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-22 07:35:59 Our father who art in Fort Matilda
mortonjag 2009-12-22 07:37:27
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Dec 22 2009, 12:59 AM) [snapback]684138[/snapback]
I thought that you would have known better Toby than to stoop to such levels. I cannot fathom your racist reason for such a peurile attempt at humour. Not only should you be hung, drawn and quartered but also made to sit watching videos of St Mirren winning stuff! It is a complete outrage...
Mr Potato head might even sue....

Shouldn't that be 'pursue'? rip.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-22 07:39:05
QUOTE(Savo @ Dec 21 2009, 09:41 PM) [snapback]684055[/snapback]
Like I said, I'm hopeful there will be players leaving and new people arriving in January.

Looking to the longer term - beyond this window and towards the expiry of contracts in the summer - I have total trust in Grady and McManus to get it right in terms of who should be retained. They're not daft.

Between now and the start of next season there is a fantastic opportunity for Morton to undergo a massive turnover in the playing personnel and to completely rebuild the thing.

And the best bit about it is that wages across the game are coming down, plus some exorbitant, and frankly ludicrous, contracts we are currently chained to will soon run out. So a transformation that leaves us better off in terms of players needn't even come at a greater cost, as long as we are shrewd in the transfer market.

[codebox]as long as Rae lets the Manager pick the players[/codebox]
mortonjag 2009-12-22 07:41:27
QUOTE(edd @ Dec 22 2009, 07:01 AM) [snapback]684158[/snapback]
i'm still waiting - and i only live in edinburgh ...

ordered the tickets on wednesday, would have thought special delivery should reach me by now. think i'll give them a ring later today.

Next thing you'll be seeing a post on here from a Mr Duncan claiming that Shoogly paid for your ticket! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-22 07:46:33
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 21 2009, 11:12 PM) [snapback]684080[/snapback]
The percentage of homosexual men in the UK is only about 2% of the population.

But they have quite a poweful voice in the media for such a small group of people.

...said Soapy last night as he was half way up Eck's erse.

Statistics on homosexuality are almost as reliable as information from the Shoogly propaganda machine! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-22 07:47:51
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 22 2009, 07:04 AM) [snapback]684159[/snapback]
As always good sir smile.gif

Take it Bawheid's a pouffe!
mortonjag 2009-12-22 09:31:07
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Dec 22 2009, 09:00 AM) [snapback]684182[/snapback]
....but quite clearly isn't.

To those who are willing to believe in Fairy Tales! laugh.gif

QUOTE(maccaboy @ Dec 22 2009, 09:06 AM) [snapback]684186[/snapback]
Fixed it for you.

Not exactly hot news Mucky Boy! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-22 09:32:44
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Dec 22 2009, 09:16 AM) [snapback]684191[/snapback]
His will be donalded.......

.......will he forgive his debtor??

As his creditor has forgiven him! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-22 09:44:43
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Dec 22 2009, 09:42 AM) [snapback]684198[/snapback]
Bring back Live is Life... ph34r.gif

mad.gif

Uncle Donald meant no harm

ee aye ee aye oh! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-22 09:50:30 What the Eck?
mortonjag 2009-12-22 12:22:08
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 22 2009, 11:49 AM) [snapback]684226[/snapback]
1:10,000 is a piss poor ratio mind. laugh.gif

......and less frequent than pouffes in Spurtle's scullery. happy.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-22 12:26:29
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Dec 22 2009, 11:08 AM) [snapback]684217[/snapback]
laugh.gif Yes campaign day i believe, had defo indulged in a few sherbets that day (don't know if you noticed! laugh.gif ) As always with these things, i saw you, knew who you were & thought "he would probably think it would be the best thing ever if i introduced myself"

Looking back, you prob didn't rate that as one of the highlights of your life!

Did the dwarf bump into you at University when he was skidging college? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-22 12:31:59
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Dec 22 2009, 10:39 AM) [snapback]684213[/snapback]
Is it noses we they get up these days... unsure.gif ph34r.gif laugh.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

The statistics are a joke IMO.

I reckon that latent homosexuality is still rife despite a slightly more tolerant attitude from the 'c0cks are only for phannies and wee wees' brigade. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-22 12:34:47
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 22 2009, 12:21 PM) [snapback]684242[/snapback]
She does indeed. The nation is dying a slow death from cheap drink available from every street corner.

And will die a quicker death if the price goes up and other non essentials like food can be less well afforded! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-22 12:36:26
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Dec 22 2009, 12:27 PM) [snapback]684247[/snapback]
Cappielow half full of the smelly unwashed wearing dual scarfs sad.gif
Bumble Bee Tops in the Cowshed sad.gif

I'm getting myself one of these. ph34r.gif
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mortonjag 2009-12-22 12:39:20
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Dec 22 2009, 12:36 PM) [snapback]684257[/snapback]
Was there not a recent campaign Some people are gay get over it !!

What real difference does it make ?

There is a genuine concern in some circles that the rampant rise of pouffery may see the end of procreation.

Nobody to sit in the Douglas Rae Memorial Stand - what a chilling thought! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-22 12:54:48
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Dec 22 2009, 12:46 PM) [snapback]684262[/snapback]
I am not understanding this, someone tell me if i'm wrong... is the minimum price not being brought in to make it less affordable for youngsters/bing drinkers ? if so then whats the problem, if you cant afford to drink as much then surely the benefit will be seen accross everything, from policing to hospitals to .. er society as a whole, I'm not usualy in favour of goverments telling us what is right for us, but if they raise the price of drink, then I can see the benefits, after all smokers have been getting hit hard for years, and all in the pretense that it's for our own good..

Raising the price of alcohol will not deter those who cannot do without it.

It may possibly slow the rate at which youngsters discover that they fall into that category, but it will also force confirmed drinkers to miss out on essentials like food and proper clothing.

Back to the good old days of drinking Belair hairspray, Brasso, and HOOCH! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-22 13:36:58
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Dec 22 2009, 01:15 PM) [snapback]684277[/snapback]
SPOT TON/THE CUCKOO/THE BEARDED TIT/ MR DONALD SIR? CALLS MORTONJAG A LIAR

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mortonjag 2009-12-22 13:47:54
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Dec 22 2009, 01:05 PM) [snapback]684271[/snapback]
so whats the alternative then... keep wasting tax payers money trying to help people who more often than not dont want to help themselves, we dont want goverments to tell us what to do, but we are quite happy for people to not take responsability for themselves, whats the answer ?? at the moment we are ALL paying the price and more money and resources are being spent on drink related incidents and the multiple support groups extra benefits that people with drink problems get... that gets up my nose, someone tell me what the corrective action is to help the problem.. without it costing me a penny..cause i dont have the problem, and i need every little i have got to feed my family.

There's no 'quick fix'.

Like all health related social problems in this country possible solutions are restricted by political agendas and chronic lack of cash.

You can't 'educate' somebody out of an inherited addictive personality, though it may be possible to make rehabilitation MUCH more successful. That would take experience, vision, and adequate funding. Current alcohol rehabilitation in Scotland is nothing short of pissing into the wind, though successive governments will churn out statistics to prove it's working!
mortonjag 2009-12-22 13:54:15 Threads is dedz.

32 years old and a massive heart attack.

Our thoughts are with the family etc! happy.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-22 13:56:11
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Dec 22 2009, 01:54 PM) [snapback]684309[/snapback]
Fnar fnar...

Fnar fnar's doing OK though it's -34 in Lapland.
mortonjag 2009-12-22 13:57:16
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Dec 22 2009, 01:56 PM) [snapback]684312[/snapback]
He thinks your good posts ratio is low, he also is saying that you are still in the corset.
Hope that helps.

I heard he keeps it on in bed.
mortonjag 2009-12-22 13:58:10 Hi Peter!
mortonjag 2009-12-22 14:07:56
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 22 2009, 01:57 PM) [snapback]684314[/snapback]
Is it though? I have a close family member who is an alcoholic. Their parents weren't and their children aren't.

There is no doubt among specialists that 'the addictive personality' is genetic.

Many folk with alcoholism struggle to identify a genetic link, but pooled information is pretty convincing.

Discussing the causes and definition of 'alcoholism' tends to be unproductive for the lay person, yet everybody seems to know the answers!!!

If I thought a right good pink botty birching would sober them up I'd be all for it! rolleyes.gif

mortonjag 2009-12-22 14:14:13
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Dec 22 2009, 02:12 PM) [snapback]684324[/snapback]
Grab a granny? ph34r.gif

KNOTTY dwarf! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-22 14:16:05
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Dec 22 2009, 02:12 PM) [snapback]684325[/snapback]
We have been minus Temps for a few seasons now and have done alright... ph34r.gif

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mortonjag 2009-12-22 15:24:38
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Dec 22 2009, 02:16 PM) [snapback]684329[/snapback]
Now, now. Where's your Christmas spirit? angel.gif

OOPS! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-22 15:30:13
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Dec 22 2009, 02:50 PM) [snapback]684341[/snapback]
I work in addiction and keep up to date in studies of addiction.

Ernie, I'm sorry but your statement simply is not true.

There is a minority of specialists who believe it is genetic.

That depends on exactly what you mean by it. There's now considerable doubt about a specific gene for alcoholism as an entity. I've delved pretty deeply into the concept of 'The addictive personality', and I'm convinced of a strong genetic component - again there may or may not be a specific gene.
mortonjag 2009-12-22 15:34:29
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Dec 22 2009, 02:28 PM) [snapback]684337[/snapback]
I read of a study done on two groups of men, one was heterosexuaul, gay tolerant men, the other group were those who expressed intolerance to gays.
Both groups had a kind of elastic band with wires attached to a meter placed on their penises, they then sat alone in a room and were shown gay porn.
The 1st group- about 15-20% got erections (shown by the meter).

The 2nd (homophobic) group- 80-90% got erections.

This may not be proof that homophobes are all latent homosexuals, but I can see cowshed warriors hard on from here.

Funny but surely over simplistic.

I'd suggest that it's equally probable that rampant homophobes are simply sad, sex starved, and jealous, and would bust their G strings at the sight of two dogs humping.
mortonjag 2009-12-22 15:39:49

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 22 2009, 03:38 PM) [snapback]684362[/snapback]
Two male dogs or a male and a female? rolleyes.gif

Yes.
mortonjag 2009-12-22 15:47:19
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 22 2009, 03:44 PM) [snapback]684365[/snapback]
That's my whole work been told to go home early so to avoid traffic problems. Very heavy now up in Glasgow.
And I have pipe band practice laugh.gif

AW! crying.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-22 15:56:38
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 22 2009, 03:51 PM) [snapback]684370[/snapback]
Well, I've just had a case of wine delivered and bought a litre of gin, litre of vodka, litre of whisky and a litre of rum at the airport this morning so balls to the SNP and their pricing pish. drink.gif

yo ho ho
mortonjag 2009-12-22 16:38:29
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Dec 21 2009, 08:53 PM) [snapback]684036[/snapback]
Thinking back to my school days and the Paisley & District Schools Football. St Lukes was most definitely in Barrhead.

...and Neilston most definitely had its moments, its Bovis, and its schemes, and its big boys and girls (well the Proddy ones anyway) were educated in E. Renny. and not Baurheed which is part of Glasgow! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-22 16:40:12
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 22 2009, 04:33 PM) [snapback]684386[/snapback]
Gies a tune

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2009-12-22 16:42:39
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 22 2009, 04:07 PM) [snapback]684376[/snapback]
sadly no

Are you sure?

QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Dec 22 2009, 04:31 PM) [snapback]684384[/snapback]
Are you sure ?

Is he sure?
mortonjag 2009-12-22 16:44:10
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 22 2009, 04:42 PM) [snapback]684390[/snapback]
The 'And I have band practice' means I am still here as we practice in Glasgow.

So no one else here except me and the cleaner...but the plus is I am getting a lot of work done with no one bugging me biggrin.gif

Shagging the cleaner does not constitute work, dwarf!
mortonjag 2009-12-22 16:46:40
QUOTE(bigstu22 @ Dec 22 2009, 04:40 PM) [snapback]684389[/snapback]
The Herald definitely made a mistake. Have another wee look. Another clue: it has nothing to do with figures...
This Inverclyde school excelled.

I hope you're not suggesting that something in 'black and white' could be misleading!

Ratarse will be terribly upset. happy.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-22 16:49:41
QUOTE(Harelaw @ Dec 22 2009, 04:46 PM) [snapback]684393[/snapback]
Ach thats just mince, the missus has not long left to head through to Clydebank for back shift at the Hospital, dont see any of them getting away early from their jobs smile.gif

The dwarf 'works' for the Cooncil though he'll deny that! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-22 16:51:52
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Dec 22 2009, 04:47 PM) [snapback]684395[/snapback]
I can beat that. I made 5000 shite posts in my first year on the board.

What about SPARROT? blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-22 16:56:37
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Dec 22 2009, 04:55 PM) [snapback]684403[/snapback]
He made more. sad.gif

He seems to have quietened down!
mortonjag 2009-12-22 16:58:42
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 22 2009, 04:54 PM) [snapback]684402[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Ill-informed as usual wub.gif

Oh God - you once told me you'd got a job with the Cooncil - now I have this vision of you working in the same establishment as my partner! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-22 17:00:01
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Dec 22 2009, 04:58 PM) [snapback]684406[/snapback]
He found that P&B can project pish to a much wider audience. He's got nearly as many posts over there as you have here!

I'm sure they adore him! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-22 17:01:16
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 22 2009, 05:00 PM) [snapback]684411[/snapback]
Jaggy believes everything he is told shocker.

Need a better source wink.gif

Where DO you pretend to work?

I demand an answer! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-22 17:06:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 22 2009, 05:04 PM) [snapback]684414[/snapback]
laugh.gif

You're hiding something! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-22 17:08:47
QUOTE(Deego @ Dec 22 2009, 05:07 PM) [snapback]684416[/snapback]
You know what you have to do.

Brush up his Erse?
mortonjag 2009-12-22 17:13:06
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 22 2009, 05:10 PM) [snapback]684418[/snapback]
Another clearner just arrived too.

How much you pay for the video?

Brush up yer Erse twice?
mortonjag 2009-12-22 17:23:44
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Dec 22 2009, 05:18 PM) [snapback]684421[/snapback]
wub.gif
Are they serving xmas dinner in there!??

Take it you fancy some stuffing.
mortonjag 2009-12-23 05:42:50
QUOTE(forza ton @ Dec 22 2009, 09:42 PM) [snapback]684589[/snapback]
personal abuse mj? poor sir, poor.

Your literacy is debatable too, Farza!

If the question mark was intentional, my answer is that the dwarf is correctly described and is known botanically as Toxicus Minimus.

Furthermore it NEVER answers my questions!

Oh and a very Merry Christmas to you too! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-23 06:03:04
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 22 2009, 07:20 PM) [snapback]684466[/snapback]
Thomas was quite brave to come out and go public that he was gay, especially given the sport that he plays.

To a large extent the days of gay bashing are now not as bad as they were. But I feel we have gone full circle, now we can't say anything remotely critical of someone who is gay.
I mentioned Thomas' wife, mainly because no one else did. She was an innocent party, yet she had to suffer the emotional trauma of finding out her husband was gay all along.
What about her feelings ? The media didn't mention much about them.

Like so many others, they were portraying Thomas as some sort of hero. Right now it's not politically correct to criticise anyone who is gay.
They have a powerful voice within the media for a group that has such a low percentage of the UK.

As I say, I don't have a problem with gays men or women. But we shouldn't live in a society that cannot criticise without being pilloried for it or accused of being anti-gay.


I haven't been privy to the evil pouffe's money grabbing 'outing' statement. Did he admit that he married to cover his pouffery, and was he jobby jabbing all along, or did he actually love the woman he married and perhaps continue to love her when he discovered that his square peg was never going to fit her round hole?





QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 22 2009, 08:05 PM) [snapback]684494[/snapback]
I would like to point out however that CW's bile was aimed at me and I am not a gay man. Well, perhaps gay in the old fashioned sense of the word.


Indeed Peter (Pan).
mortonjag 2009-12-23 06:10:47
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Dec 22 2009, 07:49 PM) [snapback]684483[/snapback]
When this came up a few weeks ago in the news there was an article about a rehab facility closing due to lack of funding , that was despite the centre recieving an award for the work done.

Without these dedicated centres to help those willing to change the outlook is bleak.

Some of those rehab centres are just money grabbing, self promoting gravy trains, which soak up a huge amount of Social Work funding annually and can't produce genuine statistics to show long term efficacy. Because most of their funding comes directly or indirectly from the taxpayer, they are always being feted and receiving awards. Alcohol rehabilitation as it stands could well be described as 'Pass the buck'....or should that be 'Bucky'? mad.gif

QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Dec 22 2009, 10:41 PM) [snapback]684639[/snapback]
Personal responsibility?

For shame, they're all bent out of shape by society's pliers. rolleyes.gif

They're being plied with it right, left, and centre Mr. Bam!

Oh, and do have a Merry Christmas and never forget the fact that Jesus was a Proddy! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-23 06:24:38
QUOTE(bigstu22 @ Dec 22 2009, 11:44 PM) [snapback]684661[/snapback]
Ah, the old snob bit. Let me tell you a funny story. What goes around comes around and all that...

I'm a Kilmacolm lad myself and come from a family of billionaires just like everyone else in the village wink.gif However, my parents decided I needed to become 'socially mobile' and see how the other side lived-so Kilmacolm Primary it was. Seriously though, we spent a lot of time giving St Columbas kids pelters. Snobby basturds and all that.

And then secondary school came calling. Again, local authority was my lot-Port High to be precise. Now it was my turn. 'You fae Kilma?' I was asked on several occassions. My positive response was oft met with 'snobby basturt' and an accompanying thud.

We all got it at some point. I got off lightly. My older brother's mate didn't. He recalls the time he had to spend an afternoon in the playground looking for his mate's teeth. One of the hardest guys in the school had just knocked them out-you might just know his name....JOHN BOAG!!!

I'm curious to know how many forum users went to Kilmacolm Primary. I now know of four (yourself included), two of whom became Dux. If you did too that's three! laugh.gif

When I was a youngster St Columbas was an all girls school for rich men's stupid daughters. That's a fact. Dardenne was the male equivalent. All the bright weans of the wealthy travelled to Glasgow Academy etc.

I remember the daughter of a (by then pan breid) local C of S Minister actually got to University from St. Columbas. It was the talk of the steamie Rotary.
mortonjag 2009-12-23 06:36:09
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Dec 22 2009, 11:06 PM) [snapback]684653[/snapback]
Where does HE work?? happy.gif

It's not work as such Mucky Boy, more a labour of love (or love of labour). He's Mr. Purcell's personal arsistant- it's multi-tasking gone mad, though most of the time he just makes the tea.
mortonjag 2009-12-23 06:40:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 23 2009, 06:31 AM) [snapback]684693[/snapback]
How often do you use a reflective pronoun ?

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I enjoyed the redundancy of the word 'other' in the title of the thread!

I talk about myself constantly! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-23 06:42:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 23 2009, 06:34 AM) [snapback]684694[/snapback]
Especially the First Division of the SFL.

NO, no you totally misunderstand - if those league tables were pointless there would be no point.
mortonjag 2009-12-23 06:44:19
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Dec 22 2009, 11:07 PM) [snapback]684654[/snapback]
In all fairness, i wasn't campaigning for myself, it was for a pal who was running for Sports president & they plied me with free drink to help! If someone was offering me free booze all day, i would prob help them campaign for pro seal clubbing!

Proddy? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-23 09:38:16
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Dec 23 2009, 09:10 AM) [snapback]684714[/snapback]
Another 18 pages of MJ's pish. Found out again as his windups unravel. Time to ignore his nonsense and put this thread to bed.

Being called 'a liar' by people who should know better is NOT being found out Ratarse.

I still await a shred of proof of the various allegations made about Uncle Donald. I'm happy to put the thread to bed when others are similarly inclined.

Enjoy Christmas in Never Never Land! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-23 09:41:55
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Dec 23 2009, 08:58 AM) [snapback]684711[/snapback]
What's your point?

Mortonjag is multi-pointed!
mortonjag 2009-12-23 09:47:02
QUOTE(Thrax @ Dec 23 2009, 09:14 AM) [snapback]684715[/snapback]
As entertaining as Cowshed Chris's statements are, I would like to propose that this bigot be banned from all further gay discussion forever. He obviously lacks the brain cells and the common decency to hold back from posting ludicrous and somewhat offending information to what is a commonly accepted way of life in the 21st Century
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*awaits response of "you must be gay cos you disagree with me*

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mortonjag 2009-12-23 10:09:53
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 23 2009, 10:02 AM) [snapback]684727[/snapback]
I pretty much agree with everything you have said about the match but for:

1) For the first goal, Griffiths peeled off Shimmin and made his run for the header from a well onside position. Shimmin was responsible for the first goal by not matching his run.
2) Whilst Greacen did miss the tackle that led to the charge forward for the second goal, I thought he was entitled to believe that he would be covered by the rest of the defence. As it happened, we froze and gave three or four Dundee players a yard or so head start and none of our players had the speed to catch them. That left defensive chaos and it was no surprise that no one picked up Harkins run.
3) By the time the third went in, a number of players were already beaten and the last 10-15mins was disappointing from that perspective.

The team is creating chances and scoring a few. Trouble is we seem to need 5 or 6 chances to score one. At the back we are losing far, far too many stupid goals and most of them are coming from central defence. Shimmin may well improve as he plays more matches but as someone else said, it is obvious that he and Greacen are not communicating properly. That needs sorting.

Even when Big Bad Dom was at his best for us and winning plaudits every week, I noticed that he communicated very little with his fellow players. Big Stu needs a shout from behind.
mortonjag 2009-12-23 10:11:59
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Dec 23 2009, 10:05 AM) [snapback]684728[/snapback]
Aye, I noticed that too and I almost passed out - I'm impressed VT.

Yip-the boy dun well to plagiarise the correct source for once! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-23 10:18:56
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 22 2009, 10:04 PM) [snapback]684620[/snapback]
Jonaton done a poo yesterday, keep up tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2009-12-23 10:22:55 It's a must win encounter. We've been doing OK against the 'bigger' teams but not chalking up any points.

I'm very apprehensive about this game.
mortonjag 2009-12-23 10:39:29 Or should it be Jock?
mortonjag 2009-12-23 11:17:02
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Dec 23 2009, 11:01 AM) [snapback]684744[/snapback]
There is of course the audited club accounts. There is also the statement made at the AGM re Mr Donald being in debt to the club. Unless of course you are saying that Mr Rae has filed false accounts and is misleading shareholders?

Here's what I said:

I still await a shred of proof of the various allegations made about Uncle Donald. I'm happy to put the thread to bed when others are similarly inclined. wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-23 11:19:39
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 22 2009, 08:44 PM) [snapback]684516[/snapback]
bit like your photo tongue.gif

What's wrong with Doddy and his Diddy man, or are you simply allergic to tickling sticks!? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-23 11:23:27
QUOTE(Alibi @ Dec 23 2009, 10:54 AM) [snapback]684741[/snapback]
First significant snow I have seen in Dumfries for many years. Had great fun doing handbrake turns last night.

Think I'll build a snowman this afternoon or maybe a spot of sledging. Maybe even get the skis out. I love snow.

Quite difficult on a mobility scooter! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-23 11:26:25
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Dec 23 2009, 11:12 AM) [snapback]684748[/snapback]
Haha, I've got a mate that stays up in the Castlebank estate at the top of Woodhall. Him and his missus moved down there from the Mearns and tried to tell us all he was moving to Langbank!! He's been there about three or four years now and only now is he starting to accept he lives in the Port. I don't think they've ever gone out of their estate and turned left. They drive their car to Bishopton station despite having Woodhall within walking distance and get their messages in Glasgow.

Good gracious - what a come down for the wee soul - maybe he'll move on to somewhere posh like E.Kilbride! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-23 13:28:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 23 2009, 12:54 PM) [snapback]684790[/snapback]
What is your prediction? So I can go to the bookies and put on the exact opposite!

It's the Monkey who does the predictions. Morton 1 Ayr 0 smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-23 13:35:10
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Dec 23 2009, 01:14 PM) [snapback]684801[/snapback]
OK well as I have said before that the audited accounts together with a statement made at the AGM that Mr Donald is in debt to the club are conclusive proof never mind a "shred" of proof. Unless of course you wish to allege that Morton FC have lodged false accounts and have misled shareholders at the AGM?

Given that you have nothing more than a discredited annonymous source to go by, the weight of evidence firmly lies in support of the Raes unless of course you can prove otherwise.

Cue another 18 pages of irrelevant drivel and name calling by MJ in a vain attempt to dodge the real issue - he's been well and truly found out.

You appear to be rather desperate to prove what you claim has already been proven son. Don't doubt your judgement, and Mortonjag will do the same. Here's what Mortonjag said - just in case you've forgotten:

I still await a shred of proof of the various allegations made about Uncle Donald. I'm happy to put the thread to bed when others are similarly inclined. wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-23 13:39:55
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Dec 23 2009, 01:14 PM) [snapback]684800[/snapback]
Yeah, Puggs went to Caley college. tongue.gif

Which undoubtedly surpasses Reid Kerr where, like the good dwarf, they can't read and don't care! shutup.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-23 13:42:50
QUOTE(Thrax @ Dec 23 2009, 12:59 PM) [snapback]684792[/snapback]
New Subject : Is 44TT Gay?

Discuss tongue.gif

Can't confirm but am led to believe he's HGV +ve.
mortonjag 2009-12-23 14:43:44
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Dec 23 2009, 01:45 PM) [snapback]684832[/snapback]
It's more the fact you still cling to the first and unhighlighted part of your post. In anycase, I'll take your post as an admission you got it totally wrong. At least you can use the cold weather and the seasonal festivities to excuse your red face. Tatty Bye for now & Merry Christmas.

I'll be a Klingon and you can be one of the Dosi! Merry Christmas!

QUOTE(suda @ Dec 23 2009, 01:47 PM) [snapback]684836[/snapback]
[codebox]I know I've been found out but I'm still enjoying being antagonistic and pedantic[/codebox]

[codebox]I'll lower myself to Puggs' level in the hope that the Jag bites. I just wish we children could be as clever as Mortonjag.[/codebox]
mortonjag 2009-12-23 14:46:14
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Dec 23 2009, 02:09 PM) [snapback]684852[/snapback]
Just for the record - in violent agreement with LargsTon, Barbarossa, Forza and the rest.

We are Morton supporters, plain and simple.

We don't need, nor should we be seeking to be, associated with ANY other team.

I had no problems with the West Brom lads when they came up for the Div 3 championship match, I love the spirit and the energy of the Reggiana lads - but at the end of the day we should never be sucking hind tit to anyone.

Now if I decided to go to a Reggiana game, no doubt I'd pick up a scarf or some bit of memorabilia, to be worn in the ground it was designed for.

To be trying to cash in on a low level Scottish cup tie by selling tacky merchandise is unforgiveable.
To associate our club in any way with either one of the bigot brothers is equally reprehensible and opens up all sorts of connections I want no part of.

To the others talking about wearing another Scottish clubs colours before the OF - cop yourself on.

Wear blue and white - they way it was meant to be.

TonInDublin

Agreed - even the introduction of yellow had me puzzled.

Hello Hello etc! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-23 14:49:42
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Dec 23 2009, 01:54 PM) [snapback]684845[/snapback]
.
Thin ice !!!! The cannae Reid disnae Kerr is an establishment I attended at HNC level.

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You went to school in Pishley! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-23 14:51:31
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Dec 23 2009, 02:13 PM) [snapback]684853[/snapback]
[/b]

read my modified post.. i took my knob and placed it carefully into a member of the Village People's sphincter and proceeded to rock and forth proclaiming in a loud voice Who is your Daddy statement out, I was giving you the benefit of my man love .. but i was wrong
modified

The English is a bit stilted! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-23 15:16:31
QUOTE(suda @ Dec 23 2009, 03:05 PM) [snapback]684864[/snapback]
you've got your profiling wrong again, must try harder laugh.gif

That sounds serious!

Merry Christmas! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-23 15:18:15
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Dec 23 2009, 03:16 PM) [snapback]684868[/snapback]
Who's idea was this in the first place, Smith's or Morton F.c.s ?

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mortonjag 2009-12-23 15:24:11
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Dec 23 2009, 03:18 PM) [snapback]684870[/snapback]
Taking your points in order:
That only reinforces my point about the school making a difference, it does indeed serve an area of multiple deprivation yet has much higher attainment than other schools with similar catchments.
Dear God man you must be an engineer, seeing evrything as either/or. rolleyes.gif

Both deprivation and schools affect attainment. It would be foolish to compare St Andrew's Carntyne with my school. The catchments are too different. It would be remiss not to compare my school with other schools with similar catchments or St Andrew's with similar schools. Parents should be properly informed don't you think. unsure.gif

Good schools in good catchment areas are expected to produce good results, and the opposite applies. When either fails to meet expectation the teaching comes into the equation.
mortonjag 2009-12-23 15:45:01
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Dec 23 2009, 03:30 PM) [snapback]684872[/snapback]
Maybe you have 'commonly accepted' the sexual perversion of homosexuality but it is only a commonly accepted way of life in only a few parts of the world where liberal activists shout louder than the majority, then make it illegal to critisise these people. I believe it is an unnatural way of life, i put it on a par with paedophilia. I do not think you are gay due to having a different viewpoint but whats the chances you think i am homophobic ?

I'm puzzled by that comment. You're entitled to your beliefs and opinions of course, but I just can't understand why you equate what two consenting adults do in their own privacy with the defiling of innocent children.
mortonjag 2009-12-23 20:06:16
QUOTE(mortonian @ Dec 23 2009, 07:50 PM) [snapback]684969[/snapback]
why dont the 2 of you meet up for a square go and give the rest of us peace.

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mortonjag 2009-12-23 20:08:46
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Dec 23 2009, 04:11 PM) [snapback]684893[/snapback]
Migawd, in three of the last five posts at last we're seeing a reasoned and balanced response to what should be an insignificant subject hardly worthy of mention. I hope there are more like you guys around!

It's just a grotty-looking SCARF, for gawd's sake; we haven't "sold our soul", "let ourselves down", made ourselves a laughing stock" or whatever other hysterical statements have been made.

Nobody else out in the big wide world really gives a flying one. If you don't like it, you don't buy it, end of.

What an arrogant wee fud you are! happy.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-23 20:15:03


QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporter @ Dec 23 2009, 04:40 PM) [snapback]684904[/snapback]
Arrived today safe and sound.

Cheers mate.

Congratulations Kojie - boy or girl? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-23 20:21:32 The current Dr Who - soon about to change - is from Pishley, son of the Manse (like Cyclops), and attended a once proper school. happy.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-23 20:25:26
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 23 2009, 05:34 PM) [snapback]684928[/snapback]
....what's wrong with that?

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QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Dec 23 2009, 07:23 PM) [snapback]684959[/snapback]
No I was too busy annoying Tam McB in the Columba.

The St. Columba - I always thought of Mr Bam as something of a steamer! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-23 20:31:22
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 23 2009, 07:00 PM) [snapback]684958[/snapback]
Good grief, that story is hilarious, one of the worst written pieces of journalism I've ever seen in my life.
Why does The Sun still exist? Do people really buy it? It's aimed at the level below idiocy if that's possible.



To shine for you each day, Peter!
mortonjag 2009-12-23 20:34:43
QUOTE(Morton4Me @ Dec 23 2009, 07:52 PM) [snapback]684971[/snapback]
Can't imagine the Sellik fans in the Wee Dublin End holding mixed green, white and blue scarves over their heeds while singing "you'll never walk alone"? I can't.

I wonder if Morton have found the old hamper with the luminus orange strips in it from the Hal Stewart days?

Oh my vote? Absolutely NO

Have a Merry Christmas too all.

M4M

Hal also had polka dot balls.
mortonjag 2009-12-24 08:04:00
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 23 2009, 10:30 PM) [snapback]685021[/snapback]
The Scottish government can't do anything without the help of the opposition parties.

So it's not really a government at all Spurtle, and Bawheid's an impostor. happy.gif

I couldn't help thinking while reading your protestations about married closet pouffes being the worst type of jobby jabber that Salmond displays ALL the characteristics of a closet pouffe.

A bit of a Shoogly and ineffably self obsessed, he's applied the trappings in the form of some ageing hag thereby avoiding the nuisance of little Bawheids running about the place. dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-24 08:07:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 24 2009, 12:45 AM) [snapback]685065[/snapback]
smile.gif

Newt, it seems that over twenty four hours have elapsed without comment from Toxicus Minimus. Do you think that he's off on some crash course in English? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-24 09:07:02
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Dec 23 2009, 11:34 PM) [snapback]685042[/snapback]
In the sixties I went places courtesy of Western Smt.

The cars I envied were MGs and Fords.

Lady McBeth has a Focus, a fine motor.

I have a mazda mx5. The nearest to an MG. Yep, I'm way too old school.

I guess you're a sushi man Mr Bam, but what about this wee sweet and sour dish?
*racial slur removed* of light for MG?


The word tchinke as in *racial slur removed* of light is now a racial slur and our mods are gutless wimps! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-24 09:15:59
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 24 2009, 08:23 AM) [snapback]685099[/snapback]
Hey, that's democracy for you. My old welding gaffer used to say, 'you can only piss with the c0ck you've got'.

As for my earlier post, it's ridiculous to hang a piece of alcohol pricing, the SNP should maybe have had a wee peak at EU competition law first mind you, on the fact that some women drink when pregnant. The vast majority don't, just like the vast majority of the population know their limits when it comes to drinking. But if you think nanny knows best then, hey-ho, you support this if you want.

As evidenced by a typical 'wee hauf' at Hogmanay! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-24 09:19:23
QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporter @ Dec 24 2009, 09:08 AM) [snapback]685103[/snapback]
Bollox

You heard it first below tongue.gif
I would just like to say that I achieved something at the first attempt when mortonjag has been trying and failing all year.

So in future leave the FACTS to those in the know mortonjag. laugh.gif

I haven't a clue what you're talking about Kojie.

Anyway - I hope you have a very jolly festive season, and don't make yourself sick on those buckshee Fudgy Wudgys! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-24 09:26:48 A blue scarf in a green oak tree! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-24 11:21:18
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Dec 24 2009, 10:26 AM) [snapback]685135[/snapback]
How about "You can shove your half and half scarves up yer arse"

(Green first) ? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-24 11:24:27
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 24 2009, 10:03 AM) [snapback]685121[/snapback]
My first grandchild, Jude Samuel Robinson arrived in the world at 6 minutes past seven this morning. Gran and Grandpa are both doing well and so are the mother and baby!

For anyone who knows us thats my son, centre stand season ticket holder Gordon Robinson's first and we are wetting the baby's head at hospitality at Firhill a week on Monday plus also in the Norseman pre match if the game is on on Saturday!

I've got him down as a central defender for Morton/Scotland but if he turns out to be a cultured midfielder that will be OK as well.

Hey Jude -welcome to the world!

Congrats to Granddad! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-24 11:26:52
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 24 2009, 09:39 AM) [snapback]685113[/snapback]
Well, a letter, signed by 17 directors of health, was sent to all 129 MSPs, calling on them to back the SNP proposals would indicate that to be the case.

Ten of whom were brain damaged and the other seven pished oot their skulls! dry.gif

QUOTE(TaunTon @ Dec 24 2009, 10:39 AM) [snapback]685142[/snapback]
Assuming it comes into legislation then history will determine what the case is. In the meantime make sure you lock your antifreeze away.

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mortonjag 2009-12-24 11:30:10
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Dec 24 2009, 11:27 AM) [snapback]685175[/snapback]
there youre doing it again... I have never said being gay is equal to being a rapist or a murderer.. thats YOU thats doing that... why are you saying gay men are the same as rapists or murderers ?? what is your problem with this ??? by the way.. NOT LIKING HOMOSEXUALS DOES NOT.. NOT..NOT MAKE ME A BIGOT.. ok has there been some sort of law passed that says I HAVE to like gays ?? no so I dont like what they are.. and just to clarify.. all you gays on the borad.. I dont like the fact youre gay, and would avoid you because you are gay.

Some might suggest that paedophilia is a form of rape! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-24 11:41:18 What's all this obsession with schooling anyway?

I'd suggest that only self obsessed and unfulfilled parents who see their little darlings as a 'second chance' strive desperately to ensure that they get cartloads of crap crammed into their crania and end up at proper Universities.

And after that?

Well the graduation 'fotie' on the lounge display cabinet says it all! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-24 11:42:55
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 24 2009, 11:39 AM) [snapback]685182[/snapback]
Don't bring another opinion to this debate Douglas. If the SNP were to introduce gas chambers for people under 4 feet 2 inches Col and Alibi would be on here telling us what a fabulous policy it was and how doing nothing about midgets is not an option.

North Sea Gas? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-24 11:45:47
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Dec 24 2009, 11:36 AM) [snapback]685180[/snapback]
doc i have never mentioned peodophilia in this thread either... you know what the real problem is.. all the wee pc pish brigade on here telling people what their opinions should be, they cant understand that there is still people out here who have their own minds and dont follow the pc propaganda crap, WE WILL SAY WHAT WE BELIVE IF WE WANT.. theres no crime in that (or there shouldnt be), and if my religous beleifs that being gay is wrong offend some wee pc loving osterich.. then fine.. i dont care.

Maybe you're just making your point in a kinda' clumsy way then.

If you're talking about the handbag totin' gay lib c*nts who try to thrust their tastes down the throat of the majority I'm with you - as are most self respecting gays!
mortonjag 2009-12-24 11:56:49
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Dec 24 2009, 11:50 AM) [snapback]685197[/snapback]
A lounge, with a display cabinet. True fulfillment...do you also get a pouffe ph34r.gif tongue.gif

The bare floorboards, bull terrier, and plasma screen brigade don't aspire to self promotion via the twenty five sprogs.
mortonjag 2009-12-24 12:02:42
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 24 2009, 11:51 AM) [snapback]685199[/snapback]
The guy who was head of telesales where I worked a few years back was from Huddersfield, a skinhead, hard as **** and gay. And a really nice guy. We generally have a friend who is gay over over during the Christmas holidays, again a really nice guy. I knew a buyer from HMV years back who was a screaming queen and a really nice guy. I think it's time we stopped judging people on any criteria other than 'are they a tosser?'

One man's tosser may be another's icon Peter!

I give you the Shooglemeister. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-24 12:03:58
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Dec 24 2009, 12:02 PM) [snapback]685210[/snapback]
Superior contrast, better veiwing angles, etc. These people know their stuff.

..and a dug to rip the Provvy man to shreds! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-24 12:06:55
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 24 2009, 12:01 PM) [snapback]685209[/snapback]
unsure.gif

What are you unsure.gif ing about. Have you lost another inch in the wash?
mortonjag 2009-12-24 12:08:40
QUOTE(se65an @ Dec 24 2009, 12:05 PM) [snapback]685214[/snapback]
Well done to GMFC for giving everyone plenty of notice.

biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

The Chinook tomorrow will wipe that grin off your face! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-24 12:10:45
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 24 2009, 12:08 PM) [snapback]685218[/snapback]
...it's cold outside! And stop looking! mad.gif

I may be many things dwarf, but I've not been a peeping Tom for two years.
mortonjag 2009-12-24 12:21:40
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 24 2009, 12:15 PM) [snapback]685220[/snapback]
I guess it is quite hard to peep in a cellar.

My cellar is, as you are well aware dwarf, equipped with CCTV and state of the art periscopes.
mortonjag 2009-12-24 12:30:45
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 24 2009, 12:23 PM) [snapback]685223[/snapback]
Yet no love sad.gif

Necrophilia my dear! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-24 12:33:08
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Dec 24 2009, 12:30 PM) [snapback]685225[/snapback]
Rearrange the following words to form a well known phrase: pish, utter.

UP SH1TTER? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-24 12:37:19
QUOTE(Thrax @ Dec 24 2009, 12:35 PM) [snapback]685231[/snapback]
happy.gif Mrs Dyer loved me n wot of it!?

I also wouldn't call myself PC in the slightest. I too have an opinion and my opinion is that your a ****. I reckon you probably think the same about me now but that doesn't bother me. Gay bashing religious bigots aren't really in my pool of friends.
I do see your point to be honest. Opinion is opinion but there's a hell of a lot of unnessecary hatred in your argument. You could have been objective. You chose not to be and then you started throwing insults and blame towards the likes of dunning. I probably wouldn't have even commented. But after a while I just felt like noising you up a bit and now I have so I'll sleep a little better tonight wink.gif

Will you be hanging up your stockings? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-24 12:39:11
QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporter @ Dec 24 2009, 12:36 PM) [snapback]685234[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2009-12-24 12:48:26
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 24 2009, 12:45 PM) [snapback]685238[/snapback]
Whit ye laffin at ? blink.gif

My deliberate lie - only six were pished oot their skulls and the other was up Bawheid's arse!
mortonjag 2009-12-24 12:50:44
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Dec 24 2009, 12:46 PM) [snapback]685239[/snapback]
As above. Funny how you just ignored that post, when it was proved that you were comparing them.

Yes, it does make you a bigot. You don't have to like them as people, no, but you hate gay people solely because they're gay. It's the same as hating black people because they're black and hating muslims because they're muslim. It's bigotry. I refer you to vikingTON's Ian Wright example earlier in the thread.
Ah, the last refuge when you've lost the argument, play the political correctness card.

IT'S POLITICAL CORRECTNESS GONE MAD!!! mad.gif
Exactly.

Is hating VikingTON because he's VikingTON bigotry or simply common sense? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-24 12:56:40
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Dec 24 2009, 12:51 PM) [snapback]685244[/snapback]
see thrax.. thats you making assumptions, you probably have a picture of me as some neo nazi whao runs about all day with his veins popping... if youve read most of my posts theres a common theme in them.. and thats is I rant and rave and lots of the times come across as a bit extreme.. or very extreme depending on your veiws, but this board allows for that, I would be very more accomodating of peoples feelings in 'real life', cause i'm really not that bad a person (just my opinion).. it's easy to get angry at the molly coddling crap that some on here post.. the gay rights movement will have a very big and lasting impact on society, something like the womens rights movement had.. in a short space of time womens rights have had a dramatic impact on this society and country.. so I belive will gay rights (and lots of others that i wont go into)... sleep soundly, santa wont be long

Well Warrior, that's democracy at work, and if you subscribe to democracy you shouldn't bat a non mascara'd eyelid when them Gays take over completely, and make hetero humping punishable by death.
mortonjag 2009-12-24 13:00:58
QUOTE(Thrax @ Dec 24 2009, 12:59 PM) [snapback]685249[/snapback]
I most certainly do not. I've seen enough folk on this board in real life to realise this place aint as serious as everyone likes to make it out to be. I'm sure your a lovely man when talking about football or films, but i reckon if the footballer was Freddie Ljungberg and the film was Phillidelphia I'd probably have to leave you to it and let have your moment of prophecy while i went for a pish tongue.gif

Has Puggs been tutoring you? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-24 13:02:10
QUOTE(leyTON @ Dec 24 2009, 01:00 PM) [snapback]685250[/snapback]
as long as your the provost its fine:)
maybe youngsters will want a memento of what will hopefully be a happy and memorable occasion for our town and club. cant see any 7 year olds clamouring for it saying "daddy iv no respect, can you get me a condescending cynical mareketing ploy with vaguely secterian undertones for christmas? Pleeeeeease"

PLEASE! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-24 13:05:26
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Dec 24 2009, 01:02 PM) [snapback]685257[/snapback]
sorry if it's not ideology, then you must be patron saints of gay rights then...

ST. BENDYDICK?
mortonjag 2009-12-24 13:18:25
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Dec 24 2009, 01:15 PM) [snapback]685265[/snapback]
Santa's using a helicopter now?

Yip - Santa's got a big chopper.
mortonjag 2009-12-24 13:21:17
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 24 2009, 01:16 PM) [snapback]685266[/snapback]
Health chiefs in booze price plea

All 17 of Scotland's public health chiefs have called on politicians to back a minimum price for alcohol.
A letter signed by the directors of health has been sent to every MSP.

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If sixteen had signed, I'd have been much more convinced Spurtle.

Who pays said beaurocrats? ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-24 13:36:27
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 24 2009, 01:34 PM) [snapback]685279[/snapback]
Don't be so cynical MJ. wink.gif

WOOD EYE? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-24 15:07:39
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Dec 24 2009, 02:42 PM) [snapback]685324[/snapback]
blink.gif Why SHOULDN'T I??

It's called "making your point"! The basis of debate is to make your contribution. Geddit?

Really, HOBBIT? wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-24 15:10:13
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 24 2009, 02:45 PM) [snapback]685326[/snapback]
Must be murder in the Rae household . ph34r.gif

I concur! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-24 15:16:15
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Dec 24 2009, 02:08 PM) [snapback]685304[/snapback]
A minimum price for booze, eh? Been a long time since I saw a tramp drinking Old Spice so it'll be good to relive those childhood memories.

McArthur and gin comes close, mind you! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-24 15:18:36
QUOTE(Yoda @ Dec 24 2009, 03:11 PM) [snapback]685341[/snapback]
To be perfectly honest I am a bit disappointed with your ambitions for the lad. You know there is always a demand for a left footed player!!!!

Congratulations to all the family x

Perhaps he'll kick with both feet like Mo Johnston! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-26 12:26:33
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 25 2009, 01:55 PM) [snapback]685610[/snapback]
Let me guess.

Hair Clippers? rolleyes.gif
Lie detector test? rolleyes.gif
Freckle remover? rolleyes.gif

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-26 12:34:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 24 2009, 05:59 PM) [snapback]685402[/snapback]
I'm thinking of publishing a paper on it.
Ian Wright: A portrait of a ****.
Neither, it's obsession. HTH.

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QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 25 2009, 04:39 PM) [snapback]685633[/snapback]
Yes it does, you're a squalid little bigot and I feel sorry for the child(ren) you're attempting to raise.

When did you learn to feel sorry for anybody except your chubby wee self Smegma? smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-26 17:08:58
QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporter @ Dec 26 2009, 11:22 AM) [snapback]685713[/snapback]
you're just upset because I'm having a go at your puppet. laugh.gif

The day Mortonjag becomes somebody's puppet Kojie, will be the day headlines in the Confectioners' Chronicle can be trusted by those with an IQ in excess of 75! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-26 17:10:51
QUOTE(Toby @ Dec 26 2009, 03:26 PM) [snapback]685764[/snapback]
Fair enough, I'm also pretty stubborn when it comes to boycotting companies I've had issues with. I refuse to shop at Spar for example after the manner I was treated in when I tried to use a Scottish banknote on tour with Morton in Durham.

On a similar issue though, I notice how much work has been done on updating the website since I raised the issue of how shoddy it is at the AGM rolleyes.gif .

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-26 17:13:44
QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporter @ Dec 26 2009, 12:52 PM) [snapback]685730[/snapback]
The puppet obviously thinks that is funny because the hand said it, I thought it was funny because the puppet laughed at it. laugh.gif

Is this the same puppet whose strings Kojie once pulled when he wanted a shot at his now master? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-26 17:18:31 I'm still waiting for it to happen. We still have five days! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-26 17:25:49 At the final whistle the half and half scarvies were trampled to death by the hordes of green and white scarvies rushing to shake hands with their Morton counterparts. wub.gif !
Father knows best.
mortonjag 2009-12-26 18:00:05
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Nov 16 2009, 12:40 PM) [snapback]669292[/snapback]
With Rangers fans now contemplating the biggest shake up in the clubs history, is it possible that when Dougie goes that the supporters at Morton will have the audacity and the balls to attempt the biggest shake up at Cappielow in the clubs history.
The prize is an opportunity to run your club your way and have a real say in its future. Or will we miss that opportunity and continue to snipe and complain from the sidelines about how badly the club is run etc and do nothing concrete to change things.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/spl/ra...upport-1.932478

Don't miss the gravy train!
mortonjag 2009-12-26 18:15:35
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 25 2009, 04:37 PM) [snapback]685631[/snapback]
You should come up and say hello next time smile.gif

Regarding the initial post, I would have left it alone were it not addressed to me, but since I've been called out, I might as well bite.

How am I supposed to react to ahistorical, blind assertions such as these?

God knows.
mortonjag 2009-12-26 18:37:03
QUOTE(port-ton @ Dec 26 2009, 06:27 PM) [snapback]685810[/snapback]
To me that looks like basically the only players we have who are capable of scoring any goals for us, apart from Weatherson. Getting rid of them half way through the season would be suicide.

Jenks? blink.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-27 07:11:41
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 26 2009, 06:52 PM) [snapback]685818[/snapback]
Nah, Santa gave him a blow up doll.

But she forgot the bomb and threw something else! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-27 07:16:06
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 26 2009, 09:29 PM) [snapback]685847[/snapback]
You're trying too hard.

I just love when somebody spells 'you're' properly Smeggy, dear chap.

I take it you're not a pouffe - closet or otherwise! oops.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-27 07:17:55
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 27 2009, 02:54 AM) [snapback]685877[/snapback]
An 84-year-old Indian politician has resigned after a sex tape was broadcast allegedly showing him in bed with three women.

Narayan Dutt Tiwari, the Governor of Andhra Pradesh in south-east India, had maintained his innocence after the sex tape was aired a day ago on the news channel Andhra Jyothi.

laugh.gif laugh.gif

Impotence?
mortonjag 2009-12-27 07:24:12
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 27 2009, 04:20 AM) [snapback]685880[/snapback]
They're performing quite well at the standard they've been demoted to, sadly.

Sadly, they are performing quite well at the standard to which they have been demoted. wub.gif

Mortonjag wishes for SPARROT a happy and prosperous New Year.
mortonjag 2009-12-27 07:35:07
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 4 2008, 01:16 PM) [snapback]374970[/snapback]
yup

Nup! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-27 11:34:57
QUOTE(kingtiffin @ Dec 27 2009, 09:16 AM) [snapback]685892[/snapback]
the biggest problem that none of the fans can see or dont want to see..
is there has been no investment in the youth policy in the last 6 years

yes take the money from all the events spend it on lights etc............
how did morton survie for all those years and be in profit?????

sell boys mahood, hopkins, reid, mcinnes etc etc
this is were the problem lies no boys coming through yet boys
from inverclyde playing for other teams......

morton now begining to eat into boys inheritance ??????

the toy is broke dont want it anymore?????????????????

But it's surely all sorted now with the Youth Academy in the safe hands of the self funding Trussht! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-27 11:36:47
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Dec 27 2009, 11:08 AM) [snapback]685900[/snapback]
It's Andy Morrison who deserves the plaudits for that one. smile.gif

....and he's not a club official, so far as I'm aware!
mortonjag 2009-12-27 11:55:14
QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporter @ Dec 27 2009, 11:39 AM) [snapback]685909[/snapback]
The Trussht (Greenock Morton Supporters' Society Ltd) has nothing to do with the running of the Youth Academy. rolleyes.gif

another example of the getting Facts mixed up with fiction. laugh.gif

Just testing Kojie!

Has Stuart Duncan got anything to do with said Greenock Morton Supporters' Society Ltd and/or said Youth Academy, or will you have to check with him before you provide another piece of fiction fact? smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-27 11:58:08
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 27 2009, 10:57 AM) [snapback]685898[/snapback]
Feckin 10 pages of this s***e...oh wait I started the thread didn't I.
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That may be a fact. I'll check with Kojie and revert to you! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-27 12:01:11 Hmm-seems that maybe it's the Cooncil who have got it wrong in assuming that 'fatness' is in some way undesirable!

Maybe they should be pursued! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-27 12:02:33
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Dec 27 2009, 12:00 PM) [snapback]685917[/snapback]
[attachment=6179:pouffe_.jpg]
rolleyes.gif

smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-27 12:03:53
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Dec 27 2009, 12:02 PM) [snapback]685920[/snapback]
Not a rugger bugger then???

But into hookers?
mortonjag 2009-12-27 12:05:51
QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporter @ Dec 27 2009, 12:00 PM) [snapback]685916[/snapback]
No need to check with him

Yes Stuart is involved with both Greenock Morton Supporters' Society Ltd and the Greenock Morton FC - Inverclyde Football Academy (GMIFA).

How many hats does Stuart wear Kojie, or will you have to ask him first? smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-27 12:20:53
QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporter @ Dec 27 2009, 11:39 AM) [snapback]685909[/snapback]
The Trussht (Greenock Morton Supporters' Society Ltd) has nothing to do with the running of the Youth Academy. rolleyes.gif

another example of the getting Facts mixed up with fiction. laugh.gif


I understand you are the messenger in this case and your information has come from sources at the club but I think you are being guilty like a lot of Morton fans on here that don't want to believe their is lots of avoidable failings going on at the club.

Does Kojie remember who wrote that and when? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-27 12:30:42
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 27 2009, 12:21 PM) [snapback]685927[/snapback]
I see the Tories are saying they will change the law in England to make it side a bit more with the householder who takes on a burglar in his house. This follows a case of some guy down South getting six years for setting about a burglar in his house with a baseball bat and putting him in a wheelchair for life.

It happened to me once many years ago when the boss and I were newly married. We lived in a flat in Hope St and I returned to it, tried to put the key in the door and it just swung open. The lock complete with screws was lying on the carpet. I picked it up and them went into the bedroom and the guy was behind the door and smacked me a good one. I hit him back still holding the lock and opened his cheek which made a bit of a mess of the carpet. A scrum followed, we both went down and as he got up he swung his leg which connected with my chin and all went black. Fortunately I had taken a kick at him as well and had the satisfaction of feeling my foot connect with his groin and sink in up to the ankle just before he connected!!!

Anyway result was, I was stunned, he legged it as best he could. Police arrive and sit me in their van and we find him up a close just round the corner in agony. He had to have an operation on his balls and I am not sure what I did for his chances of fatherhood. He got 3 months each for breaking and entering and assault to run concurrently. I was cautioned for assault but no charges were brought but only after a worrying six weeks or so.

Having lived through that, when that guy hit me, I saw red, literally, for maybe the only time in my life. If I had had a gun, I would have shot him. I was not in control and instinct took over.

Which brings me to what is 'proportionate' Its all very well and fine for the court to consider in the cold light of day what you should or should not have done but as anyone who has been in the position will attest, your response is pretty instinctual. I wonder how many judges have actually been in a situation where they thought they were fighting at least to defend their person and property and maybe even for their life?

For me, break into someone else's property and you have put yourself beyond the protection of the law. The householder does not know what weapons you might be carrying and you are fair game. The moral is, do not try to steal from people and they almost certainly will not try to hit/kill you.



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Just another example of the law being a complete ass at times, and what you say is so true. How do you know that he's not carrying a knife or gun.

I think the Tolies are correct, but it will never be implemented. happy.gif I'd certainly bring back capital punishment, and the birch...and any burglar who ventures in here will end up in the cellar and never be missed! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-27 12:37:56
QUOTE(Gourock Morton Supporter @ Dec 27 2009, 12:27 PM) [snapback]685929[/snapback]
When it comes to me and you there is only one puppet. rolleyes.gif
I honestly thought you were puggsy when I read that. laugh.gif
Kojie don't give a lollypops feck

Then perhaps Kojie should, since those are Kojie's very own words prophetically and sadly describing Kojie's very own behaviour.

..oh..and the bit about puppets - I'll excuse that since you are clearly blissfully unaware of your strings! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-27 12:58:19
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Dec 27 2009, 12:54 PM) [snapback]685937[/snapback]
DId all the cellar incumbnents try to break in to your house or are they just cheeky wee bassa's on this board rolleyes.gif

Information on the contents of Mortonjag's cellar is classified Willy Man! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-27 13:00:48
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Dec 27 2009, 11:59 AM) [snapback]685915[/snapback]
We're in the process of looking to move to a bigger house before strating a family, so, if you want to have a look at our flat just let me know and i will give you all the details.

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mortonjag 2009-12-27 13:02:48
QUOTE(Deego @ Dec 27 2009, 01:00 PM) [snapback]685940[/snapback]
Wow, I'm famous.

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TRUST RULES-OK! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-27 13:25:41 Right to the end
Just like a friend
I tried to warn you somehow
You had your way,
Now you must pay
I'm glad that you're sorry now laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-27 15:11:46
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 27 2009, 01:55 PM) [snapback]685948[/snapback]
That wasn't the emphasis I intended, so you're wrong, sadly. wub.gif

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mortonjag 2009-12-27 15:13:08
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Dec 27 2009, 02:29 PM) [snapback]685952[/snapback]
Is MJ's life that boring that he has to scour the depths of the forum to dig up old threads?!

Nup

QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 27 2009, 02:48 PM) [snapback]685957[/snapback]
yup

Nup
mortonjag 2009-12-27 15:19:34
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 27 2009, 02:22 PM) [snapback]685950[/snapback]
What happened to the number of gun-related deaths in the county, can I guess?
A proportionate response is to use means to restrain the burglar for the police and criminal system to dispense justice, as opposed to shooting a fleeing burglar with a shotgun in the back like the Daily Mail's Martyr of the Second Millenium.

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QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 27 2009, 02:57 PM) [snapback]685961[/snapback]
People still reply to Vikington? Has no one realised yet he is a windup merchant? laugh.gif

Is that why he regularly goes in a wee cream pouffe when folk who have been educated properly attempt to improve his use of English? jerry.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-27 15:27:31 I recently discovered Buchanans' Chocolate Peppermint Creams - excellent value for money and quite irresistible.
mortonjag 2009-12-27 15:30:28 LCM
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mortonjag 2009-12-27 17:30:01
QUOTE(jpmil @ Dec 27 2009, 03:51 PM) [snapback]685985[/snapback]
He must be trying to get to the 32,000 mark before the New Year........Sad isn't it!

Nup
mortonjag 2009-12-27 17:35:45
QUOTE(cmdc @ Dec 27 2009, 04:39 PM) [snapback]685990[/snapback]
The law already accounts for self-defence in Scotland in a pretty robust way, and these situations would almost certainly be covered. This does not, however, mean that an individual can kill with impunity, and Tony Martin was rightly convicted as far as I can see. Besides, this to me is little more than an attempt by the Tories to play to that middle England vote, and Labour will fall right into the trap. My main problem with this change is that burglaries most likely won't decrease, and burglars will better arm themselves.

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Up the ante then - what a pathetic cop out. Burglaries most certainly WILL decrease if the c*nts think they may be shot DED FROO THI HED! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-27 17:48:14
QUOTE(port-ton @ Dec 27 2009, 05:18 PM) [snapback]686000[/snapback]
Well it's back again, the moment everyone has been waiting for for almost a year now. The gm.org awards. The time during the season of goodwill and festive cheer that we get to give our fellow members a pat on the back for making the site worthwhile, or kicking them when theyre down for killing a little part of your soul everytime you read a post of theirs.

There are a few new categories this year including:

the sense of humour bypass award, The coveted " i know something you don't know " poster of the year, the blown out of all proportion thread of the year and finally the favourite poster you've met this year award.
So here are the categories for you to vote on, the winners will be announced on January 1st/2nd depending on hungoverness.

Best Overall Poster of the year

Mortonjag

Worst Overall Poster of the year

Stuart Duncan

Best Wean (Under 18)

Deego

Worst Wean (Under 18)

Stuart Duncan

Best Female Poster of the year

Port Ton

Funniest Poster of the year

Colkitto

The sense of humour bypass poster of the year

Nach0

Best Newcomer this year

Greenock Guv

Worst Newcomer this year

Stuart Duncan

Best Poster Who Stopped Posting As Much This Year And Is Sorely Missed

NewTON

Poster Who Stopped Posting As Much This Year Who Won't be Missed

MidTONs

Best Thread this year

Any One of Mortonjags

Worst Thread this year

Any one of Puggsy's

The " I know something you don't know " poster of the year

Gourock Morton Supporters


The blown out of all proportion thread of the year

None of mortonjags

Favourite poster you met this year

Centralton or was that last year?

Poster you would have liked to have met this year

None in particular

Biggest Stud

Mortonjag

Hottest Female

LCM

Best Overseas Poster

NewTON

Best Mod
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The " Ghost goes in a huff " Biggest Pisshead award

Nach0

Biggest Geek

Prince Philip

Special Contribution Award


To Stuart Duncan SpotTon for believing his identity is still a Trusted secret! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-27 18:06:47
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 27 2009, 05:55 PM) [snapback]686009[/snapback]
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Stuart Duncan
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDNot like you to hijack another thread ya poisonous wee sh1te
mortonjag 2009-12-27 18:10:51
QUOTE(cmdc @ Dec 27 2009, 05:55 PM) [snapback]686010[/snapback]
Not necessarily. For one thing, private ownership of guns is all but illegal in this country - so they most likey wont think that. For another, a series of city comparisons such as the Seattle-Vancouver study show no discernible decrease in burglary rates where citizens have greater/easier access to guns.

I don't think it is a cop out. Quite the opposite, I think the Tories are proposing something of a cop out.

Keep politics out of this.

If a potential burglar believes he's likely to be topped for his efforts he'll think twice.

Anybody who states otherwise deserves the same fate! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-27 18:19:11
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 27 2009, 08:30 AM) [snapback]685889[/snapback]
I have watched 2 episodes on the i-player.

I actually found it to be quite funny and well written in places. A bit rough around the edges but it is the same for any new comedy.

Toxicus Minimus ventures an opinion and finds he's out on a limb! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-27 18:22:16 It still hasn't happened and only four days left. mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-27 18:37:46 Ladies, gentlemen, weans who lied about their ages, and Puggs - Mortonjag is afraid to ask this question on the normal forums. That is a sad indictment of the degree to which they have been infiltrated by numerous posters with their own agendas, not least those on the payroll at GMFC, and a motley crew of blinkered Trusties.

One hopes that this moribund wee forum has at least retained its independence and perhaps my question will test the water.

In the wake of the departure of Alistair Donald I'd like to state that my considered opinion is that Douglas Rae's credibility and honour leave much to be desired.

Speak up folks - this forum IS still democratic.

I HOPE! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-27 18:45:20
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 27 2009, 06:34 PM) [snapback]686020[/snapback]
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Erm yes, because as we all know, burglars are people who are just a bit bored of abiding to the laws, they're not at all likely to be stealing to feed addictions. I'm sure in that situation they're far more willing to go into withdrawl symptoms rather than arm themselves and make sure they shoot first.

They'll not be doing much 'shooting' if they've no cash for a stash - so skint they can't get a fix but still hanging on to that precious six shooter. Aye right!

Sit in the corner ya daft wee fud. Don the pokey hat and say after me - 'I know f*ck all about life'.

Better still - burgle the Jag's hoose! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-27 18:49:15
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Dec 27 2009, 06:23 PM) [snapback]686018[/snapback]
taxi for Mr Pot.

Best Overall Poster of the year
Savo talks the most sense of anyone on here. His posts are always worth a read.

Worst Overall Poster of the year
Chris Mceleny. I'm still convinced this persona is a wind up.

Best Wean (Under 18)
no idea

Worst Wean (Under 18)
No idea.

Best Female Poster of the year
Queen of Sheba, I think, for ranting against legislation that promoted womens' rights, because the daily mail had spun it as pro-immigrant. Deliciously funny. If it wasn't you, then I apologise and award to whoever it was.

Funniest Poster of the year
up a close for his constant baiting of Trick.

The sense of humour bypass poster of the year
ThornTON

Best Newcomer this year
no idea

Worst Newcomer this year
greenock guv

Best Poster Who Stopped Posting As Much This Year And Is Sorely Missed
can't remember

Poster Who Stopped Posting As Much This Year Who Won't be Missed
can't remember

Best Thread this year
none

Worst Thread this year
first "songs for celtic game" thread. Showed how far this board had descended in terms of class.

The " I know something you don't know " poster of the year
Willon man or Sean.

The blown out of all proportion thread of the year
too many to choose from.

Favourite poster you met this year
Saw Jimmy Boag Delivers and Benny in the queue at firhill. Always a pleasure. And Sutton, who nevers posts anymore.

Poster you would have liked to have met this year
Too many to mention, but mainly the old codgers collective.

Biggest Stud
me, obviously

Hottest Female
Mrs TAFKAC.

Best Overseas Poster
TiD

Best Mod
no idea.

The " Ghost goes in a huff " Biggest Pisshead award
forzaton, but in an amusing way

Biggest Geek
Mortonjag for his bullying of a teenager. Another low point for the board.


Special Contribution Award
Vikington, for never knowing when to stop.

Douglas Rae is 78 you daft eejit! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-27 18:53:33
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 27 2009, 06:49 PM) [snapback]686027[/snapback]
If having a gun is necessary to commit the robbery, then I'm certain they'll be keeping one handy.

You must have learned a lot about armed robberies from your Glasgow flat. Or are you just making things up again?

I have learned a lot about the modes operandi of addicts SPARROT, and not from my Glasgow flat.

Keep reading your big books son! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-27 18:58:51
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 27 2009, 06:47 PM) [snapback]686024[/snapback]
Did I just get a new name? wub.gif
And I couldn't care less of everyone else hates it. We can't all be sheep like you and follow the words of someone else as gospel ph34r.gif

I was just fascinated to see you venture an opinion, dwarf.

Perhaps in 2010, you'll pluck up enough courage to start a thread which does not allude to tits and bums.

As to your comment about my ovine predisposition, I haven't a clue what you're talking about and that makes two of us! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-27 19:03:38
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 27 2009, 06:58 PM) [snapback]686031[/snapback]
Really, in which gun-toting country was this?

Hmm...

Hmm nothing you glaicet wee prat. The fact is that nobody in his right mind will commit burglary if he believes he's likely to be killed for his efforts.

Those who commit burglary while oot ther faces deserve extermination.
mortonjag 2009-12-27 19:09:02
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Dec 27 2009, 07:01 PM) [snapback]686033[/snapback]
Why?

The thread is about folk's opinions of Douglas Rae, and should be based on their own information and observations. One is entitled to voice an opinion without supplying the underlying reasons.

If you want to start another thread entitled 'What I think of Shoogly and Why', that's your prerogative. I was genuinely hoping to get some honesty here.
mortonjag 2009-12-27 19:19:38
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 27 2009, 07:07 PM) [snapback]686037[/snapback]
So to clarify, you have no evidence whatsoever, from your career or otherwise, to support your point of view.
Thanks for that: looks like you'll have to take a climb down from the 'come back when you've experienced life' pedestal.
How many heroin addicts can be classified as 'in their right mind'? wacko.gif

My point of view is that folk won't commit burglary if they think they are likely to be killed for their efforts.

We've been here before SPARROT. In the past I've treated you gently, but the truth is that you are an ignorant, irritating, and disrespectful little boy with little or no experience of the big bad world.

That's what the Jag thinks, and that also appears to be the opinion of the majority of posters.

The very fact that you see your last question as clever and loaded exposes the crassness of your ignorance.

I'm not playing games son - you're a sad wee tadger so why don't you f*ck back off to P & B or Mummy? thumbdown.gif

mortonjag 2009-12-27 19:30:12
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 27 2009, 07:26 PM) [snapback]686042[/snapback]
Boo ****ing hoo. Feel free to take another few months off from your tiresome habit. I can guarantee you no-one will care.

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mortonjag 2009-12-29 09:47:17
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Dec 28 2009, 08:20 PM) [snapback]686229[/snapback]
Now that's an @rse I could get my teeth into!

Bottom teeth?
mortonjag 2009-12-29 09:50:13 On the third day of Christmas Auld Shoogly gave to me:

Three bent threepennies
Two curled turds
And a blue scarf in a green oak tree
mortonjag 2009-12-29 09:54:52
QUOTE(Mags @ Dec 28 2009, 02:39 PM) [snapback]686155[/snapback]
In the cowshed a few weeks ago,referring to the ref's dodgy decisions,guy who stands with us said "that c*nt's a pr*ck!" laugh.gif laugh.gif

Mags.

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mortonjag 2009-12-29 09:56:04
QUOTE(theton1 @ Dec 29 2009, 09:46 AM) [snapback]686378[/snapback]
Before the replay against Dumbarton, I asked about the situation regarding hospitality if we won and was told that they didnt want to jinks themselfs and there will be no application before Monday. Yet when I called back on Monday bang on 9 am I was told I would be on a waiting list and had at least 200 in front of me.

If that wasnt bad enough they then told me that although they new I had previously had hospitality a few times, because it was coperate It wasnt booked under my name, there was a pecking order.

Just because it was celtic the rules changed. the true fans always get a raw deal when the old firm are involved.

Money! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 10:04:30
QUOTE(capitanus @ Dec 27 2009, 09:18 PM) [snapback]686061[/snapback]
Shall I spoil it for you by telling you who makes them??

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Manufactured at Fort Matilda, lovely soft accenture, covered in bitter chocolate?

QUOTE(midTONs @ Dec 28 2009, 09:58 PM) [snapback]686290[/snapback]
lollypops

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mortonjag 2009-12-29 10:11:11
QUOTE(midtons @ Dec 28 2009, 08:46 PM) [snapback]686242[/snapback]
"Who loves ya, baby?" laugh.gif

Who loves ya, Shoogly
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mortonjag 2009-12-29 10:12:41
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Dec 28 2009, 08:41 PM) [snapback]686239[/snapback]
I'm hoping Bliar gets assassinated. Is it Shoogly for you?

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mortonjag 2009-12-29 10:25:36
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Dec 27 2009, 08:10 PM) [snapback]686051[/snapback]
You don't bully DDR. You just point out his inadequacies, which most of us are aware of, ad infinitum. I was referring to your bullying of VT, which is pretty despicable, imo. I know nothing of your relationship with AD, so won't comment on that.
Sorry. Whoever it was had me and CHC in stiches at the time. Perhaps Loyal Lass?

TAFKAC in despicable endorsement of ageism! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 10:30:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 29 2009, 10:14 AM) [snapback]686393[/snapback]
I met a bloke from Dunoon yesterday.

He told me that the Midden Stand looks similar to this.

But I think he was on the wind up ????

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mortonjag 2009-12-29 10:34:09
QUOTE(Alibi @ Dec 29 2009, 10:26 AM) [snapback]686398[/snapback]
...meanwhile a few hundred thousand Iraqis and others are dead, paid for with cheques signed by Gordon Brown. I'm not taking sides on the issues of this particular case where the executed person may not have been of sound mind, but Brown's nauseous hypocrisy reeks of an impending election. He's trying to play the hard man.

I hope he's phoned Susan Boyle to comfort her.

Does she have a 'phone yet?
mortonjag 2009-12-29 11:01:20
QUOTE(Davie @ Dec 29 2009, 10:54 AM) [snapback]686406[/snapback]
E

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mortonjag 2009-12-29 11:07:58
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 29 2009, 11:00 AM) [snapback]686408[/snapback]
1. James Grady and Allan McManus will be offered new contracts at Morton
2. The Referendum Bill will be voted down by the Unionist parties at Holyrood
3. Labour will loose the General Election at Westminster
4. Announcement of major job losses in Inverclyde
5. Work starts on the building of the new stand at Cappielow

1/Douglas Rae finally leaves
2/ Crawford Rae sells up to a Disney Cartoon Character rhyming with Ronald Buck
3/ Cappie the Cat is exposed as a paedophile
4/ Jimmy Cowan's other boot is discovered in big Gillian's glove compartment.
5/ The Midden stand is condemned because it's too smelly.
mortonjag 2009-12-29 11:21:06 It's a very vague question - what qualities are being looked for?

Big Stu surely deserves an honourable mention for hard graft and dedication.
mortonjag 2009-12-29 11:23:03
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 29 2009, 10:33 AM) [snapback]686400[/snapback]
What's happened to Susan Boyle?

She's on Smegma's siggy! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 11:27:55 Contraceptive advice would be cheaper!
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mortonjag 2009-12-29 11:39:58
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 29 2009, 11:35 AM) [snapback]686420[/snapback]
Hmmm. Perhaps we could eliminate poverty and all its attendant problems by sterilising the poor. Fixed in one generation it would be. But you wouldn't go that far would you Dr (Mengele)? biggrin.gif

Poverty and inability to raise children do not equate except in the idealistic eyes of the well heeled quasi socialist!

I'd certainly be happy to deal with the latter Mr Edwards. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 11:50:15
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 29 2009, 11:45 AM) [snapback]686422[/snapback]
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I'll be staying clear of you and yer cellar then.

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Don't knock it till you've tried it!

Seriously - free parenting classes at public expense is a total and muddle headed joke. If little pink botties were scudded frequently and timeously, parents would not need to spend money on gloves in those frosty times.
mortonjag 2009-12-29 12:13:13
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 29 2009, 11:56 AM) [snapback]686425[/snapback]
The Australians might disagree, according to the Herald anyway.

The Australians?

Who are those people? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 12:15:58
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Dec 29 2009, 12:08 PM) [snapback]686429[/snapback]
1) Gordon Brown wins the election ... in his own constituency
2) Osama Bin Laden makes a surprise appearance on X Factor
3) Pol Pot wins a postumous Nobel Peace Prize
4) Ian Wrights head explodes on live TV at the prospect of England winning the WC ..... and that will occur in March.
5) Paisley is declared unsafe for local inhabitants thousands are left homeless after a detergent spill in Tesco's.

...and Spurtle hires a tanker when he hears of the buckshee Fairy Liquidator?
mortonjag 2009-12-29 12:24:38 I have never seen or listened to this creature. shutup.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 12:31:56
QUOTE(midTONs @ Dec 29 2009, 12:27 PM) [snapback]686436[/snapback]
Now I am getting older and my upper body hair (not my head as mortonjag with vouch for) is becoming a real problem.
I am a keen walker and I'm planning to return to some sort of fitness regime so the stuff is uncomfortable particularly when sweaty and then cold

Also - it looks AWFUL

So please, can someone recommend a treatment or a salon where I can get a wax without feeling stupid just walking in and asking for one.

Any help appreciated.


diy
mortonjag 2009-12-29 12:36:30
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Dec 29 2009, 12:31 PM) [snapback]686440[/snapback]
I recall getting Sleep Scotland in as James was a little fecker through the night about 2 to 3 hours was the norm . Told us all the stuff we had tried for months without success .

Nice, well meaning , pleasant but completely useless.

Eventually after about 4 years old he settled abit . We even tried Ceratonin from the Larkfield Unit ,1st lot - absolutely nothing , 2nd lot knocked him out for about 3-4 hours then he was like a Tazmanian Devil from about 3 in the morning.

We decided to persevere on our own , which she was quite glad about .

And the agencies decided you were the failure no doubt!

As I said, parenting is all about pink botty scudding and I'd start with Super Nanny! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 12:37:37
QUOTE(midTONs @ Dec 29 2009, 12:36 PM) [snapback]686445[/snapback]
worked well on the monkey I see

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mortonjag 2009-12-29 12:39:28 I'd certainly include a proper winger in any ideal team. For that reason Andy McLaren would be in mine!
mortonjag 2009-12-29 12:57:42
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 29 2009, 12:54 PM) [snapback]686458[/snapback]
Descendants of convicts mostly.

Despicable folk then. I'm glad we Scots are descended from monkeys.
mortonjag 2009-12-29 12:59:00
QUOTE(midTONs @ Dec 29 2009, 12:55 PM) [snapback]686462[/snapback]
No thanks, I've heard it done you no favours after taking the ginger beard off. rolleyes.gif

It's ok Kojie - he'll put a steel thimble over your lollipop stick! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 13:03:18
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 29 2009, 01:01 PM) [snapback]686469[/snapback]
I'm wondering if Dr Nagy Iskander is one of Mentaljag's aliases, all part of an elaborate ploy to lure the gullible into his cellar.

“We urinate, we defecate and we seek to copulate. No-one would criminalise the first two, so why criminalise something that is a basic human need and is being carried out between two consenting adults?â€

You may now pop out into the street and do a jobby Mr E! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 13:06:38
QUOTE(rawheed rex @ Dec 29 2009, 12:45 PM) [snapback]686454[/snapback]
iv never had a sh ite standing up.

Put it in the freezer for half an hour first! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 13:10:00
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 27 2009, 11:56 AM) [snapback]685913[/snapback]
I'll be at hospitality next Monday. The had a couple of Thistle fans at Cappielow and they are reciprocating. We are also wetting my first grandson's head!

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Indeed - I saw that pair of w*nkers 'reciprocating' at Scapa when Thistle scored! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 13:14:59
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 29 2009, 01:05 PM) [snapback]686473[/snapback]
Your Uncle Donald's a monkey isn't he? biggrin.gif

Uncle Donald died last month having been stung by a poisonous Rae ray! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 13:18:25 The Italian Job - if that was a gangster film - either that or Greenock Morton on the Way Back.
mortonjag 2009-12-29 13:19:32
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 29 2009, 01:17 PM) [snapback]686481[/snapback]
Then may he be buried under the midden stand.

Where they can both rust in peace! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 13:37:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 29 2009, 01:22 PM) [snapback]686486[/snapback]
The nut said he paid washers for it before he bolted. And you believed him. laugh.gif

He was plugged, screwed, and glossed over. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 13:40:22
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Dec 29 2009, 01:36 PM) [snapback]686496[/snapback]
I use a mach 3 to take off the worst of the hair on my chest (I don't have a whole pile of it anyway), pits and my Costa Del Sols, then use Immac Gentle - which you can use in the shower after about 7 minutes.

Result is pristine armpits, chest and Davina McCalls.

Sorted.

TonInDublin

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try this
mortonjag 2009-12-29 13:49:01 Oh dear!
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mortonjag 2009-12-29 13:54:38
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 29 2009, 07:31 AM) [snapback]686371[/snapback]
Wester Ross. Whatever created the world did its best work here, in fact if I was a god I'd live on an island in Loch Maree, commanding the midgies not to bite.

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mortonjag 2009-12-29 13:55:39
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Dec 29 2009, 01:50 PM) [snapback]686502[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2009-12-29 14:00:07 David Edwards
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mortonjag 2009-12-29 14:02:40
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Dec 29 2009, 02:00 PM) [snapback]686507[/snapback]
In today's Tele' Grady is making his position clear - that he wants to build his own squad at Morton. His immediate aim is to catch Raith and do so by playing better football and next year to build a squad capable of challenging at the top of the division, similar to Queen of the South who also had a number of players out of contract at the end of last season.

A clearout is likely since he wants players with different 'attributes'.

I hope he has a proper chance to achieve it.

Money?
mortonjag 2009-12-29 14:05:00
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Dec 29 2009, 02:03 PM) [snapback]686509[/snapback]
Patience. And to still be in the first division when next season begins!

I have no fears about that.
mortonjag 2009-12-29 14:10:30
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 29 2009, 02:05 PM) [snapback]686511[/snapback]
Dr Mentaljag:

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mortonjag 2009-12-29 14:12:43
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 29 2009, 02:08 PM) [snapback]686512[/snapback]
Are you going on yer hols to Uncle Donald's villa? Sharing with Sheeplips? laugh.gif

Uncle Donald is dead.

Sheep Lips is dead.

God save the Queen! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 14:13:58
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Dec 29 2009, 02:12 PM) [snapback]686517[/snapback]
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaay to stylish for a leftist.

Colkitto
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mortonjag 2009-12-29 14:14:53
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 29 2009, 02:13 PM) [snapback]686518[/snapback]
I suspect that Grady has. He's not daft after all.

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mortonjag 2009-12-29 14:19:10
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Dec 29 2009, 02:12 PM) [snapback]686517[/snapback]
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaay to stylish for a leftist.


OK Mr Bam!


David Edwards:
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mortonjag 2009-12-29 14:27:20
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 29 2009, 02:24 PM) [snapback]686526[/snapback]
Now that's what I call an insult. If I wasn't so limpwristed I'd report you to the mods.

You don't like St. Thomas? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 14:30:01
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 29 2009, 02:28 PM) [snapback]686529[/snapback]
Tam McB:

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Good God - she's stolen Shoogly's suit! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 16:14:24
QUOTE(RankinBorn75 @ Dec 29 2009, 04:09 PM) [snapback]686565[/snapback]
General Morton Chatter ???????

Off to the huddle board with you ...

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mortonjag 2009-12-29 16:15:52
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Dec 29 2009, 01:28 PM) [snapback]686490[/snapback]
Unbelievable that some countries are still allowed to carry out executions.
Seems as if this was rushed through.
did the guy definitely have a mental illness?

Unbelievable that some countries can't get rid of scum! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 16:17:43
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 29 2009, 03:58 PM) [snapback]686553[/snapback]
I think they are on the same level. EK is much bigger so there are more pointless stories I suppose.

....because it's just one of Glasgow's septic tanks? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 16:20:21
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 29 2009, 04:14 PM) [snapback]686574[/snapback]
Balls. I'm not 'doom laden' at all. I'm as happy as the next man. mad.gif

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mortonjag 2009-12-29 16:23:35
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 29 2009, 02:28 PM) [snapback]686531[/snapback]
No. He shagged my hamster.

Did you douche her out before you took over? wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 16:26:21
QUOTE(RankinBorn75 @ Dec 29 2009, 04:22 PM) [snapback]686583[/snapback]
What I bet you are sitting there now with your Henrick Hair Extentions , wearing your Paul McStay signed hoops strip, watching the Lisbon Lions VHS tape eating a packet of cheesy wotsits ... ( Couldnt think of a celtic snack ... let myself down there ) ....

...and my half in half scarf - you forgot that! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 16:28:19
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Dec 29 2009, 04:16 PM) [snapback]686577[/snapback]
While I'm all for seeing Morton play good football, I'd feel a lot more comfortable if Grady's immediate aim was to adjust his tactics so we aren't conceding two goals a game, and get clear of relegation as a result. If we carry on conceding at this rate, we'll be building a squad to challenge at the top of the Second Division. It worries me that he's already making fanciful comments about challenging for the title when we're still in a relegation battle.

Kinda difficult with a makeshift midfield - have patience my boy. We will finish mid table - guaranteed! cool.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 16:29:18
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Dec 29 2009, 04:25 PM) [snapback]686586[/snapback]
Are you hinting that this project will never come to fruition?

WOOD EYE? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 16:36:14
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 29 2009, 04:32 PM) [snapback]686592[/snapback]
He will have some afterthe top earners leave..

Has Shoogly been speaking to you too? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 16:38:07
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 29 2009, 03:04 PM) [snapback]686539[/snapback]
While having a chit-chat with some of the guys in work today we where talking about how much each others kids enjoyed xmas day (see I am not all bad).

Anyway, one of my colleagues is from Paisley (who will remain nameless) then chipped in with this utterly priceless and unforgettable statement (and believe me he was serious).

"I got a new door bell for Christmas", adding "it plays 33 different tunes, nursery rhymes the lot". laugh.gif

The man has no children. blink.gif

As his 'Ding a ling ling' is superfluous?
mortonjag 2009-12-29 16:40:25 Moved to this forum thereby defeating its purpose and proving that the Mods have totally lost it! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 16:43:03 BRYAN ph34r.gif
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mortonjag 2009-12-29 17:35:37
QUOTE(midTONs @ Dec 29 2009, 04:37 PM) [snapback]686595[/snapback]
A young man is in a terrible car accident and awakens to find he is missing an eye. Eventually during rehab he is approached by doctor jag about his choices for the empty socket.
Doctor jag shows the man a book containing several models of eyes ranging from glass to plastic, blue to brown, and everything else imaginable.
The man sees that an attractive glass eye is very expensive, way beyond his budget.
The plastic eyes are cheaper, but the young man is out of work so every penny counts.
There in the very back, the last page the man finds a plain wooden eyeball. Not even painted, it is little more than a small wooden ball.
Being very basic this wood eye was very inexpensive, so the young man opted for the wooden prosthetic and vowed to get a better one when he could afford it.

Over the months the young man made due with his wooden eye.. his friends loved it to hell and nicknamed him arse pirate, but to his dismay, women were perceivably repulsed by his pine scented peeper.
As time went on the man fell deeper into despair until one Saturday afternoon in the Norseman he saw across the room Uncle Donald drinking alone at the bar but next to him is a woman dangling a peg leg over the barstool..looking even more lonely.

Mustering his courage the man strolls past Uncle Donald and up to the woman and asks her if she would like to dance. To whit she replies:

"Would I?!!" nervously and excitedly
Angered the man shouts:
"Screw you then, peg legged bitch!"

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mortonjag 2009-12-29 17:38:33
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Dec 29 2009, 05:33 PM) [snapback]686634[/snapback]
MidTons

As starring in Shoogly and I?
mortonjag 2009-12-29 17:40:23 Just to reassure folk the Trust is alive and keeking. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 19:24:29
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 29 2009, 05:56 PM) [snapback]686644[/snapback]
please leave my name out of your topic titles rolleyes.gif

You have the power to delete oh mighty one! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Dec 29 2009, 06:31 PM) [snapback]686656[/snapback]
how tedious can you really get MJ.

Almost as tedious as weans who cannot punctuate! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 19:31:08
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 29 2009, 06:56 PM) [snapback]686663[/snapback]
This is his sincerely held belief so I don't really think it's anyone's place to make light of it... right?

A change of philosophy for you Smeggy, or just more ironing?

I've been meaning to say that I love that picture of your Mum, and there I was blaming your portliness on those sausage suppers! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 19:32:36
QUOTE(Alibi @ Dec 29 2009, 07:17 PM) [snapback]686667[/snapback]
Why would you want to remove your hair? Seems like a lot of trouble for nothing.

Because Shoogly told him to? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 19:34:19
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 29 2009, 05:58 PM) [snapback]686647[/snapback]
nice try but your naw RTB rolleyes.gif

Though he is a multiple poster!

Signed Mouton! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 19:37:36
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 29 2009, 07:34 PM) [snapback]686679[/snapback]
My chin can handle it, can your nipples. unsure.gif

The visible nipple looks a little tender!
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mortonjag 2009-12-29 19:39:25
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 29 2009, 07:31 PM) [snapback]686675[/snapback]
Probably here or similar. Wood Eye

OWE DEER - another bloody plagiarist. Maybe VT is his love child! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 19:40:37
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 29 2009, 07:35 PM) [snapback]686680[/snapback]
From the Rae years:

Best

Cuthbert
Shimmin Greacen Walker
McLaren Millar Jenkins McFarlane McAllister
Weatherson McGowan

Worst:

Gonet
Shields McCluskey Dale McCulloch
M Maisano Adam Mahood
Diack Coakley McLean

Has he gone?
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mortonjag 2009-12-29 19:43:04
QUOTE(RankinBorn75 @ Dec 29 2009, 06:51 PM) [snapback]686662[/snapback]
Tickets all sold though MJ who cares if they don't turn up ?? Well apart from dougie wondering what happened to the worlds best fans

YIP
mortonjag 2009-12-29 19:44:03
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Dec 29 2009, 07:25 PM) [snapback]686674[/snapback]
Shove yer punctuation up yer arse.

Colon?
mortonjag 2009-12-29 19:46:46
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Dec 29 2009, 07:43 PM) [snapback]686687[/snapback]
Oh guys, it's a sign of progress when homo-eroticism is so openly indulged in on this forward thinking forum.

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Decadent pouffery?
mortonjag 2009-12-29 19:48:29
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Dec 29 2009, 06:40 PM) [snapback]686660[/snapback]
To be fair to Miss Boyle, her cover of "Wild Horses" is incredible.

Has she actually sung more than one song? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 19:49:50
QUOTE(aww_naw @ Dec 29 2009, 07:18 PM) [snapback]686669[/snapback]
sorry to any easties fans or anything but like on facebook a want to start a thing to stop these bloody hings since my maws been off work a need to watch the full wack of them fair play hollyoaks is got some minted burds in it so a wid leave that one but the rest should end anyone joining me in this campain?? cool.gif

You have the unmitigated support of Mortonjag. Soaps are the province of the brain damaged.
mortonjag 2009-12-29 19:52:01
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Dec 29 2009, 04:40 PM) [snapback]686597[/snapback]
Ach away - she's got a big arse, something stuck in her belly button and canny pour a pint - get some real burds behind the bar!

Some needy souls would die for such a being! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 19:53:26
QUOTE(Davie @ Dec 29 2009, 07:46 PM) [snapback]686689[/snapback]
Thank god you are back, midTONs, your topics were always the most interesting......

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mortonjag 2009-12-29 20:01:33 I received this book as a Christmas present from my beloved having read a glowing review in the Herald.

The author is a Professor of Criminology and an ex Prison Governor, and I thought I might get a new angle on my ongoing and successful hobby.

Suffice to say that he's a wishy washy w*nker who blames serial killing on the prevalent social environment, and in particular on 'Maggie'.

If you'd like a read, I can leave it in a brown paper bag in the usual place! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 20:03:23
QUOTE(partickthistlelad @ Dec 29 2009, 12:53 PM) [snapback]686456[/snapback]
Just a wee reminder for Morton fans that all under 16's get in for free at Firhill next monday night. Thistle are having a Spanish themed night to celebrate our King Of Spain Gerry Brittons last game as Assistant Manager, ,he is being replaced by ... yes well I wont go into that.

For those not able to go to hospitality just to remind you that the Aitken suite at the front of the stadium is open from 6pm, where food is sold, obviously has drinks, family seating area, can buy your programs and match tickets there, alll Morton and Thistle fans are very welcome. Also somewhere warm to sit before the game.

Thanks guys

Though they must provide their own skates.
mortonjag 2009-12-29 20:05:40
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Dec 29 2009, 07:59 PM) [snapback]686703[/snapback]
I have both seen and heard her since she emerged from her "flowers in the attic" period.
Her rise to fame comes from peoples preconceptions, when she came on in x-factor auditions the expectation
(promoted by back stage comments and jeremy kyle type editing)
was that she would sing AAAAH AAAAH AAAAH, like Anne in little britain.
But then Feck me , it turns out she's a really less than average karaoke singer.
Good on 'er.

Is she really brain damaged or are the looks deceptive? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 20:29:49
QUOTE(Flyerton @ Dec 29 2009, 08:26 PM) [snapback]686717[/snapback]
Apprently it wasn't a bullet to the occipital lobe but a lethal injection. Poor guy.

The bullet would have been kinder.
mortonjag 2009-12-29 20:37:03
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 26 2009, 09:29 PM) [snapback]685848[/snapback]
I haven't went sledging yet...might look in to that tomorrow!

Coming down heavy now biggrin.gif

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mortonjag 2009-12-29 20:38:43
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 29 2009, 08:37 PM) [snapback]686724[/snapback]
if i banned everyone that posts rubbish we would have 5 posters ph34r.gif

All members of the TRUSSHT! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 20:45:01
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 29 2009, 08:40 PM) [snapback]686726[/snapback]
do you think i post rubbish rolleyes.gif

No SIR! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 21:00:29
QUOTE(midTONs @ Dec 29 2009, 08:56 PM) [snapback]686729[/snapback]
fixed that for you

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What about Belle E Button, Big Blue Eyes, NewTON, and Tontastic?

Mary had a little lamb
'Twas weaned on Yorkshire Relish
And every time it farted
The smell was something hellish. blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-29 21:05:36 McArthur
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mortonjag 2009-12-29 21:13:34 Spurtle and Puggsy! Click for the full expose.
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mortonjag 2009-12-29 21:19:26
QUOTE(midTONs @ Dec 29 2009, 09:10 PM) [snapback]686733[/snapback]
Fixed that for you rolleyes.gif

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Mouton was a little lamb
But now he's old and grey
He loves a piece on bramble jam
And worships Dougie Rae.
mortonjag 2009-12-29 21:21:00
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 29 2009, 09:19 PM) [snapback]686736[/snapback]
He has realised he is too smart for the football lark and decided to become a lawyer instead.

Did he attend a proper University?
mortonjag 2009-12-29 21:29:32
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 29 2009, 09:27 PM) [snapback]686742[/snapback]
Like me and pugssy he did smile.gif

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Watch yer back Findlay!
mortonjag 2009-12-30 07:26:15
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 29 2009, 09:33 PM) [snapback]686745[/snapback]
Strathclyde where Gerry went is as good as where I went smile.gif

Strathclyde is getting there. One of my sons has a 'First' in Law from that almost proper establishment.

Pishley is good at junkies, and quite good at football those days - end of! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-30 07:29:11
QUOTE(capitanus @ Dec 29 2009, 11:05 PM) [snapback]686767[/snapback]
When I was flying down to Cardiff for the Scotland vs. Wales game I was sitting next to Chic Young, and we got talking about Morton. It was just shortly after the 1979 night where he made an appearance which he said was a great night. I asked about the managers position and who he thought would be the best possible person for the job and without hesitation he said "Jimmy Calderwood". I asked if he would drop down to the first division he said "Aye, of course he would. He's not working just now and is keen to get back into the game". I agreed he'd be a great manager for us, but I thought he'd be looking for another SPL team or a League One side down south to which Chic replied "Jimmy Nic would DEFINITELY take the job."

With the Greenock ties and a proven track record of achievement in management and coaching, maybe he should be made an offer that he cant refuse.

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mortonjag 2009-12-30 07:32:29
QUOTE(Bryan @ Dec 29 2009, 09:25 PM) [snapback]686740[/snapback]
if we lose ten or more players there will be money...

We have a stand to erect - players come and go but a stand is often named after a dearly departed worthy! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-30 07:59:54
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Dec 30 2009, 12:17 AM) [snapback]686812[/snapback]
That's ok, but it seems a strange opinion to voice without reason. I was interested to know what the reason is.

The reason my dear, is that Mortonjag's opinions are valuable and worth sharing. Who says that? Mortonjag does.

Mortonjag has oft been asked for his opinion by ailing posters.

Mortonjag has oft acted in an advisory capacity. He has never aspired to invest in their future well being.

Mortonjag has never pursued them for professional fees, nor has he ever lied to others about their owing money they did not.

Once upon a time a poster approached Mortonjag regarding a joint business venture. Mortonjag met with said poster.

Mortonjag decided not to proceed.

Said poster accepted graciously and did not purse Mortonjag for the cost of his large black coffee.

............. is only a small Club Mr. MacGregor, and can't afford to be flying trialists in from all around the world and I appeal to you as a fellow .......... supporter and ........., to pay me the £2000+ which you never owed me in the first place. wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif


ETC., ETC.

Mouton's now an ageing ram
His cells are few of grey
He claims there was an evil plan
To fleece poor Dougie Rae

Perhaps 'cos Cowden knows his Dam
He thinks that someone 'dunnit'
Or is it just that dung can smell
And saturate ones bunnet?

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mortonjag 2009-12-30 08:03:01
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 29 2009, 11:51 PM) [snapback]686792[/snapback]
You won as much as that? Expect begging letters from Alastair Donald.

Very clever Edwards! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-30 08:08:19
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 29 2009, 11:15 PM) [snapback]686772[/snapback]
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I've no idea where or what the usual place is Ernie, but if the book is as bad as I think it is, best put it in the bin.

No, no - you misunderstand - it's an excellent read for those of a certain persuasion, though a statistician may find it instantly emetic. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-30 08:14:31
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 29 2009, 10:09 PM) [snapback]686755[/snapback]
CODE
I'm too scared to put this on the proper forum

Seems dwarf cannot even read! dry.gif What a sad and unimaginitive little parasite.

' Mortonjag is afraid to ask this question on the normal forums.'
mortonjag 2009-12-30 09:51:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 30 2009, 09:48 AM) [snapback]686898[/snapback]
Well, I knew that they didn't have water mains.

You suggesting that they have mains with those electron positive and negative things ?

They'll be selling flood lights next.

..and scrap metal?
mortonjag 2009-12-30 09:52:57
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 30 2009, 09:23 AM) [snapback]686885[/snapback]
No, I think I do. All too well. biggrin.gif

My cellar soon? wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-30 09:56:37
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Dec 30 2009, 09:42 AM) [snapback]686895[/snapback]
And he should have gone to jail for a very long time. I don't agree on capital punishment on individuals who are aware of what they've done. That sentiment extends to the mentally ill.

They should have topped Shipman and his ilk.

As for the 'mentally ill' - that's an extremely grey area, ESPECIALLY when it comes to crime and punishment.
mortonjag 2009-12-30 09:58:46
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 30 2009, 09:20 AM) [snapback]686882[/snapback]
Not in my book stockbroker. There's nothing clever about servility.

Machiavelli may have disagreed! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-30 10:00:14
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 30 2009, 09:56 AM) [snapback]686903[/snapback]

Christ, Newt - where am I ever going to find a starter motor for my 1964 Hillman Imp in there?
mortonjag 2009-12-30 10:02:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 30 2009, 09:03 AM) [snapback]686878[/snapback]
ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

Not like you MJ to use an incorrect verb, cobber.

Have you been reading too many of VT's posts ?

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I've been tutoring the poison dwarf in my cellar - he's heavy going! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-30 10:04:17
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 30 2009, 09:58 AM) [snapback]686904[/snapback]
Follow the trail of sweeties (no, I don't mean Shoogly's cellar)? I'll pass on that. biggrin.gif

Pursuit of the missing Millions? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-30 10:05:03
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 30 2009, 10:02 AM) [snapback]686908[/snapback]
Aye, but he was conniving as well as clever.

Do not underestimate Canis Canis!
mortonjag 2009-12-30 10:06:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 30 2009, 10:03 AM) [snapback]686909[/snapback]
have you lost the crank handle ?

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Nope - just a bit limp wristed. happy.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-30 10:07:23
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Dec 30 2009, 01:05 AM) [snapback]686838[/snapback]
I want proof tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2009-12-30 10:08:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 30 2009, 10:07 AM) [snapback]686914[/snapback]
Too many fags, MJ.

Too many fags.

Do not berate my little ones Newt.

Your picture brought a tear to my WOOD EYE by the way! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-30 10:10:33
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 30 2009, 10:06 AM) [snapback]686913[/snapback]
As I said, not for me. There's probably a half pounder at the end of the trail.

Are you interested in serial killing?
mortonjag 2009-12-30 10:15:50
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 30 2009, 10:13 AM) [snapback]686920[/snapback]
No. I'm not interested in reading about it either. biggrin.gif

That explains a great deal. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-30 10:17:06
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 30 2009, 10:09 AM) [snapback]686917[/snapback]
They're never a match for Canis Lupus.

Especially when in a fleece! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-30 10:21:14
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 30 2009, 10:13 AM) [snapback]686921[/snapback]
Perhaps as an unintended prediction of the car's unreliability, the car had a wheel brace which could be used as a hand starter if the electrics failed!

http://www.rampantscotland.com/know/blknow_imp.htm

Truth is that the Imp was very light and could be 'bump started' nae bother. The build quality was crap but they were great wee cars to drive. I loved the wee rubber plunger you pushed to operate the windscreen washer.
mortonjag 2009-12-30 10:24:06
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 30 2009, 10:22 AM) [snapback]686927[/snapback]
Plainly I didn't, but a few of my friends did. I agree mostly with the rest of your post but as I said, poor management didn't help either.

As in the disorganised serial killer v the organised! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-30 10:27:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 30 2009, 10:24 AM) [snapback]686928[/snapback]

Imps in motorsport

The Imp enjoyed modest success in both club and international rallying. Rootes introduced a homologation special called the Rally Imp in 1964. The Rally Imp featured many modifications over the standard model, the most important of which was an engine enlarged to 998 cc. Notable successes for this model include the 1965 Tulip Rally in which the works Imps of Rosemary Smith and "Tiny" Lewis finished first and second overall.
Imps were also successful racing cars. The privateer team of George Bevan dominated the British Saloon Car Championship (later known as the British Touring Car Championship) in the early 1970s. Driven by Bill McGovern, the Bevan Sunbeam Imp won the championship in 1970, 1971 and 1972 with limited factory support. In UK club racing the Imp variants became highly successful in the under 1000 cc Special Saloon category, Notable exponents of the Imp in racing include Ian Forrest, Harry Simpson, Ricky Gauld, John Homewood, Roger Nathan, Gerry Birrell, Ray Payne, Chris Barter and many others.
998 cc Imp engines were also used in 3 wheeled racing sidecars in the 1970s and 1980's. Exhaust systems were naturally constructed on a one off basis, and often sporting the Twin Weber twin choke set up. A number of sidecar crews raced Imp engined outfits at the Isle of Man TT races, best placement being Roy Hanks in eleventh place in the 1976 TT 1000 cc Sidecar.[1]
The engine proved flexible and very easy to tune. The overhead camshaft design meant that the head could be flowed and ported to allow the engine to run at high speeds. Useful improvements in power could be gained by replacing the standard silencer with one that impeded the exhaust gas flow less and with better carburettors. However, in adapting the design to suit modern mass production methods, Rootes had left the engine somewhat more fragile than its Coventry Climax parent, hence any serious tuning must inevitably be accompanied by reliability modifications such as replacing the cylinder head gasket with gas-filled Wills rings.
mortonjag 2009-12-30 10:29:29
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 30 2009, 10:26 AM) [snapback]686931[/snapback]
It explains nothing, but you are free to surmise.

It explains a great deal to Mortonjag! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-30 10:30:55
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 30 2009, 08:24 AM) [snapback]686868[/snapback]
laugh.gif ph34r.gif

Bisto boulevard?
mortonjag 2009-12-30 10:35:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 30 2009, 10:33 AM) [snapback]686939[/snapback]
Apologies. I forgot you're fully qualified to perform psychoanalysis via an internet forum. biggrin.gif

Your flies are undone! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-30 10:39:43 My two favourite smells are those found in a greenhouse full of freesias, and that of the old stand lavatory at Scapa - sadly long since gone.

The worst smell I recall is that of an advanced gangrenous wound.
mortonjag 2009-12-30 12:30:06
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 30 2009, 11:09 AM) [snapback]686953[/snapback]
At least my alias got a couple of votes. tongue.gif

Your alias!

Alias are not allowed on this totally democratic and independent massage board - or should I say 'Don't rock the boat'!

Dictated but not signed by Mouton R.I.P. laugh.gif

Mouton was a little lamb
Who didn't hurt a fly
Until some power crazed Moddy bam
Decided he should die. happy.gif

mortonjag 2009-12-30 12:33:35
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Dec 30 2009, 11:23 AM) [snapback]686957[/snapback]
As tedious as old men who make wild statements of fact and even when proven false still dont admit to being wrong ?

Or as tedious as ill informed young prats who deliberately make misrepresentations of the truth for reasons not particularly clear to Mortonjag? smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-30 12:36:39
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 30 2009, 11:05 AM) [snapback]686951[/snapback]
MARGARET Thatcher complained bitterly in private about the numbers of immigrants coming to Britain from south Asia, saying they were being given council houses at the expense of "white citizens", it was disclosed yesterday.

Papers released to the National Archives at Kew, west London, under the 30-year rule cast fresh light on the former prime minister's attitude towards race and immigration.

They record a meeting in July 1979 between the premier, foreign secretary Lord Carrington and home secretary William Whitelaw to discuss the plight of hundreds of thousands of "boat people" fleeing communist persecution in Vietnam.

This is a perfect example of the ugly face of british Nationalism. Together with other bilious british Nationalists like the BNP and the Orangemen, this shows how shallow, artificial and offensive british Nationalism is....

Nice to know that Bawheid's lot would ban 'complaining bitterly in private'.

Democracy rules in Scotland - AYE RIGHT! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-30 12:38:43
QUOTE(midTONs @ Dec 30 2009, 12:37 PM) [snapback]686978[/snapback]
I love the smell of burning wood and hate the smell of those blue plastic carrier bags you get.

Brown sugar?
mortonjag 2009-12-30 12:43:23
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 30 2009, 12:37 PM) [snapback]686977[/snapback]
AGM for this p1sh rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2009-12-30 12:51:57
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 30 2009, 12:48 PM) [snapback]686984[/snapback]

What's knotty, has a shiny top, and is as thick as a plank? blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-30 12:55:15
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 30 2009, 12:54 PM) [snapback]686990[/snapback]
Had a tenner on it personally wub.gif

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mortonjag 2009-12-30 12:59:51
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Dec 30 2009, 12:57 PM) [snapback]686994[/snapback]
You are the definition of tedious.

Tedium? wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-30 13:15:33
QUOTE(gdo @ Dec 30 2009, 01:05 PM) [snapback]686997[/snapback]
As with any new or re development the soil will require to be assessed both for potential contaminants and it's ability to support the proposed structure. Given the surrounding area's history, the potential for contaminated material having made it's way onto the site and/or being used in the construction of the embankment for that end are pretty high. However, given the site usage at the fact that most likely the whole area will be covered in hardstanding, unless anything henious is uncovered, protection measures will likely be minimal. Should any material have to be removed from the site to accomodate things however, disposal of that soil may be quite costly.

Some types of slag have the potential to expand. Therefore, any slag found in the vicinity of the columns supporting the structure may have to be removed. I may be wrong but below any imported material I reckon the local underlying drift deposits are likely to be soft river alluvium resting on bedrock at depth. Depending on how soft these soils prove to be and what the new loadings are, supports for the new stand may have to be piled onto rock which could be tens of metres below surface. This is probably the most costly obstacle in the whole exercise.

P.S. Should anyone from the club be reading this and require a quote for a full site investigation, let me know!

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Nice to get some well informed information, and I won't demand your source.

I'm puzzled by the purchase of this currently crumbling structure. Cappielow comfortably hosts First Division Crowds. I can only assume that somebody somewhere is looking to better days ahead in the SPL.

That of course would also require under soil heating. Can you give an estimate of the current cost of installing that?
mortonjag 2009-12-30 14:42:23
QUOTE(midTONs @ Dec 30 2009, 01:27 PM) [snapback]687005[/snapback]
Your lip If I take it upon myself.

OWE DEER Kojie - maybe you need some anger management classes in Jaggy's cellar! wub.gif

The correct answer is a French polished Welsh dresser! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-30 14:56:21
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 30 2009, 02:49 PM) [snapback]687033[/snapback]
I disagree. After watching the dreadful long ball stuff DI had us churning out I'm happy for Grady to persevere with his passing game. It WILL pay dividends eventually. happy.gif

We can't keep changing our style.

Folk seem happy to discount the fact that Grady inherited a squad plagued by long term injuries. Despite that the football's been FAR more attractive to watch and we've not had our share of luck either. I agree with you that the results will start to come especially once we have a settled midfield. I'll be sorry if we lose DVZ though.
mortonjag 2009-12-30 16:54:27
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 30 2009, 03:21 PM) [snapback]687044[/snapback]
biggrin.gif It does.
For me one of the best overseas posters was that bloke from New Zealand, smithston (or spliffston as Paul used to call him). His pro-palestinian stance was a little blinkered in my view, nevertheless he did wind-up the Islamophobes and the BNP gang on this board, all very nicely. Apart from that he could talk about music, art and books..... regretfully very few threads appear on those subjects now.

This board isn't much fun anymore, what with you (McB) studying for sainthood, McArthur joining the East Kilbride Gazebo Conservation Society and Paul being polite to everybody.
Amusement is thin on the ground. sad.gif

Indeed Mr Edwards-our little pubic massage board is largely populated by juvenile thickos with inflated egos. If I included the Mods in that group my warn level would yet again increase above its current 50%, so I hasten to add that the Mods are old, highly intelligent, and overly modest like myself.

Amusement is also thin on the ground because folk take Greenock Morton far too seriously. It is, after all, a passe little provincial football club, plaything of a decaying and penniless old fudge packer who wants to go out in a blast of glory for achieving f*ck all, and stamping ground of the Bearded Tit and his deluded Trusties.

We must surely learn to laugh at ourselves. After all, that's what others have been doing for many seasons now. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-30 19:07:34
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 30 2009, 05:51 PM) [snapback]687084[/snapback]
I'm just confirming it.

I could post it on your behalf if you wish, I'm not scared smile.gif

I welcome the day when you first post something on your own behalf , PD.

You're not scared - AYE RIGHT - the truth is son that you're sh1t scared to do anything other than toe the party line and fire your little poison darts at those who have the balls to do otherwise.

In my book that makes you a cowardly little parasite, so here's a challenge.

Disprove my opinion in a reasoned and adult manner, and in intelligible English if at all possible!

I sense, however, that you will yet again prove it in your time honoured fashion! wub.gif



mortonjag 2009-12-30 19:15:08 Less than thirty hours left, and it still hasn't happened! sad.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-30 19:18:28 Sausages in a steak pie - I wouldn't say no either, but I love steak with kidney - something you don't see much of those days.
mortonjag 2009-12-30 19:33:10
QUOTE(se65an @ Dec 30 2009, 01:38 PM) [snapback]687008[/snapback]
Your right, 'Crawford said approval has not been applied for yet, but they have spoke to the council and no-one see's any issues. the stand will be up in time for the start of the new season.'

Surely it would have done no harm to submit the plans as early as possible.

It's grand to reassure folk on the basis of 'what somebody said' but I know for a fact that any planning application can encounter unforeseen problems.

How anybody can assure the fans that the stand will be up AT ALL before consent is granted, beggars belief.
mortonjag 2009-12-30 19:36:20 [quote name='ianton' post='687129' date='Dec 30 2009, 07:32 PM

The better they play,the easier it will be for them to find clubs that are interested in them.[/quote]






I agree, and I can't see anything wrong with JG's approach. He's already shown he can use the carrot, and now he's waving the stick a bit.

Good on him!
mortonjag 2009-12-30 19:40:08
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 30 2009, 07:36 PM) [snapback]687134[/snapback]
whinge whinge whinge whinge whinge

Choking on your rusk again son?
mortonjag 2009-12-30 19:45:45
QUOTE(HamCam @ Dec 30 2009, 07:34 PM) [snapback]687131[/snapback]
As MJ has his cellar I have my attic.

When rummaging through the various boxes needless to say I got sidetracked. My gran when she was around and about gave me some old coins - sentimental rather than monetary value. One old penny interests me and I was wondering if one of the old timers on here could shed some light on the background.

Colkitto please look away.

On the front is a tallship with couple of figures rolling some kegs - inscribed 'God Speed Greenock'. On the reverse two heads - inscribed 'Edward and Alexandra King and Queen of Great Britain Crowned June 20 1902'.

Anyone know anything about this coin ?

Thanks.

Sounds like a specially struck commemorative coin. Your best bet may be the Hunterian Museum at Glasgow University.
mortonjag 2009-12-30 19:49:17
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 30 2009, 07:45 PM) [snapback]687139[/snapback]
That's your problem, not mine. We'll be sure to mash some ritalin into your next pureed vegetable dish.

It's sad that you are lowering yourself to the level of Toxicus Minimus, SPARROT. For all your faults, you are surely better than that! unsure.gif Do you have an opinion on the delay in submitting an application for planning consent?
mortonjag 2009-12-30 19:55:08
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 30 2009, 07:52 PM) [snapback]687143[/snapback]
There is no delay. The stand will be constructed in time and planning permission will be gained in order to do this at the relevant and timely date.

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I'm confused now. It's to be ready for August remember!

Is that your opinion (if which, fine) or do you know that to be a fact?
mortonjag 2009-12-30 19:59:06
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 30 2009, 07:57 PM) [snapback]687148[/snapback]
Pidgeon Don't Sh1te In Flight.

Not even baldy stool pigeon? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-30 20:01:22
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 30 2009, 07:59 PM) [snapback]687151[/snapback]
Bickering children...shhhttt.

EWE PHUK OPH DADY smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-30 20:21:54
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 30 2009, 08:13 PM) [snapback]687159[/snapback]
Today the day?

As predicted!

I'm tempted to put you on ignore, dwarf, but I'm a stubborn old c*nt. Maybe a second treatment in the cellar will cure you! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-30 20:25:14
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 30 2009, 08:13 PM) [snapback]687160[/snapback]
Never mind then, you'll be ideally suited for the priesthood. laugh.gif
laugh.gif Aye, I can laugh at myself no bother. And I wish I was as penniless as 'the old fudge packer'.

True Mr Edwards - everything is of course relative, and he does make excellent chocolate peppermint creams.
mortonjag 2009-12-30 20:27:38
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 30 2009, 08:15 PM) [snapback]687163[/snapback]
Ah you get all that? I'll remember that the next time I see them Eastern European beggars smile.gif

Those/buggers
mortonjag 2009-12-30 20:29:41
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Dec 30 2009, 08:24 PM) [snapback]687169[/snapback]
I'm fairly sure the site investigation was carried out at the same time as those for the floodlighting towers.

Excellent, and muchas grassy arse.

Now - the MUNNY? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-30 20:32:46
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 30 2009, 08:27 PM) [snapback]687176[/snapback]
Or even the McLean Museum ph34r.gif

The Hunterian is a proper museum!

It is world famous for its specialist coin department too! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-30 20:34:21
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Dec 30 2009, 08:31 PM) [snapback]687180[/snapback]
Fixed it for you tongue.gif Sell out.

Uncle Douglas finally exposed! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-30 20:39:14
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 30 2009, 08:23 PM) [snapback]687168[/snapback]
Can I put your main post on the normal forum then? wub.gif

I'm sure you can dwarf and equally sure you may not, though you can and may check with Boozy or TiD! smile.gif

Oh and I notice you don't disagree with my opinion of that old fud.
mortonjag 2009-12-30 20:41:26
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Dec 30 2009, 08:39 PM) [snapback]687191[/snapback]
What do you get if you cross a kangaroo with a sheep ?

A woolly jumper? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-30 20:46:00
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Dec 30 2009, 08:43 PM) [snapback]687195[/snapback]
Steak is meant to be in Steak pies. So for that reason, I'm out.

Four and twenty Joe 1874's
(Not)Baked in a pie! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-30 20:47:22 Bouncy Baa Baa
mortonjag 2009-12-31 07:51:47
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 30 2009, 08:49 PM) [snapback]687202[/snapback]
Double negative? Very sloppy, and that from a 'propir uni' unsure.gif

More obtuseness or just proof of your minimal IQ, dwarf?

Mortonjag DELIBERATELY said that you 'don't disagree' - in this case the use of the 'double negative' not only stresses your failure to venture an opinion but challenges you to prove that you have one -which is, of course improbable.

Furthermore, Bryan is more than capable of dealing with his own posts!

You're struggling dwarf. I'd love you to grow up and post like the 'big' folks. Perhaps some semantic somatotrophin is the answer.

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 31 2009, 12:04 AM) [snapback]687252[/snapback]
Dougie Rae seems an honourable man to me...

As he does to many, Spurtle! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 08:59:18
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 30 2009, 10:28 PM) [snapback]687234[/snapback]
Erection

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QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 30 2009, 10:30 PM) [snapback]687236[/snapback]
The relevant date could be years away.

Or NEVER! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 09:01:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 30 2009, 10:44 PM) [snapback]687239[/snapback]
Do you see any Sunbeam Stilettoes these days ?
http://www.classicandperformancecar.com/fr...s.php/?see=3725

It's extremely rare to see road going Imps of any badge those days Newt, though the original Mini is still a common sight on our roads.
mortonjag 2009-12-31 09:04:10
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 31 2009, 07:54 AM) [snapback]687297[/snapback]
Was only having a laugh. blush.gif

I really don't think anyone will be able to stop you moving if you like.
I've heard plenty of racial abuse at Morton games over the years, no debate there and I'm not condoning it. However, I've never heard any abuse using the word[b] feenian, which is what my gripe with port ton is about.[/b]

I will be utterly astounded if that word is not used more than a few times when we play Cellic! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 09:09:16
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 31 2009, 09:03 AM) [snapback]687307[/snapback]
Me post like a grown up? Coming from the 'I know something and I'm not telling na na na na na look at me' one?

Think it is you that needs to grow up, rather than having a big massive hissy fit on an internet message board over someone calling you out for the snivelling little old man you are smile.gif

I sense an edge in that post PD! Don't let Jaggy upset you - he's a wicked old man.

What is your opinion of Der Shooglemeister? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 09:13:49
QUOTE(capitanus @ Dec 31 2009, 12:28 AM) [snapback]687262[/snapback]
Taxi Driver B.O. is normally ****ing reeking too.

And why do Taxi Drivers always seem to drive Skodas in Scotland? If you get a taxi somewhere in England its usually a Mondeo, Vectra or similar, and in Germany they are mostly Mercedes, but up here you usually get bumped for a tenner for a run in a Skoda.

If Taxi Drivers drive crap motors and scrimp on personal hygiene then they should at least pass on the savings to their passengers.

Because they make the best taxis? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 09:21:27
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 31 2009, 12:58 AM) [snapback]687268[/snapback]
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OK I'll admit it, it's beginning to sound like Mentaljag's invitations to his cellar. Only consolation is we have a Bar and Mentaljag doesn't, and I'm confident that you'll find the MSC at least more comfortable and certainly less threatening.

A bar in my wine cellar DE - how undesirably common! unsure.gif

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 31 2009, 01:11 AM) [snapback]687273[/snapback]
Pints of Irn Bru, lemonade and cups of tea are available at a discount. You're not really tee-total are you? Tee-totallers are usually alcoholics, bible-bashers or both. Have you seen the light and/or the error of your ways? tongue.gif

Not like Mr Edwards to generalise broadly - eh! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 09:27:05
QUOTE(morriton @ Dec 31 2009, 01:08 AM) [snapback]687272[/snapback]
my gf bought me a pair of trainers from JD Sports (£55) for ma xmas and she got them in a size too small, she tried to change them for the bigger size today but has misplaced the receipt due to so many receipts over the xmas period, when in store she was told they would not even change the size without the receipt any help on this situation would be grately appreciated, thanx

Kick up a stink and you'll probably get them changed. A receipt is not the only way of 'proving' a purchase -for starters your GF would state in Court(if it ever came to that) that she DID purchase them there, and she had a witness with her - didn't she - and she DID say she wasn't sure of the correct size - and they DID imply they'd change them if they were 'unsuitable for the purpose for which they were sold'! sleep.gif

Don't let them wriggle out of this. If the footwear is unused they'll have no bother selling it. You need the money more than them!
mortonjag 2009-12-31 09:32:20
QUOTE(dmc @ Dec 30 2009, 10:07 PM) [snapback]687225[/snapback]
Saw one of those types selling the Big Issue outside Lidl a while back, on the way back out of the shop said "homeless" person was getting into a rather flash BMW!! blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif

Gangmaster's motor - common knowledge.

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 30 2009, 10:39 PM) [snapback]687238[/snapback]
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Don't laugh Edwards - we are being ripped off, and genuinely homeless Scots no longer get a chance to sell the Big Issue in many areas.

QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Dec 31 2009, 08:46 AM) [snapback]687302[/snapback]
So wrong. On so many levels.

Don't even know where to begin.

Suffice to say that your entire last paragraph is incorrect.

Start there and then work your way up.

Please tell me you were being facetious when you posted it, or at least giggling thinking about the reaction you would get. Cos otherwise it would just be sad. And I don't want to be sad today.

TonInDublin


So RIGHT on many levels too! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 09:35:17
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Dec 31 2009, 08:48 AM) [snapback]687303[/snapback]
No sausages, no kidney. Steak pie.

There's a clue in the name for feck's sake !

TonInDublin

True -and I MUCH prefer Steak and Kidney Pie, though ideally not with sausages.

My old Auntie Kate who lived at 24 Trafalgar Street often used to exclaim 'Sausages are the boys'!

Has anybody else heard that expression? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 09:38:19
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 31 2009, 09:08 AM) [snapback]687311[/snapback]
By Morton fans? Not a chance, imo. I was stood right at the fence last time we met and although there was some pretty shocking abuse dished out, that word was never used. NOT that it makes the rest ok.

And there's the rub - eh!

What is the definition of a 'Morton fan', or perhaps I should say 'How long is a piece of string'?
mortonjag 2009-12-31 09:41:03
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 31 2009, 09:24 AM) [snapback]687320[/snapback]
An edge? You mis-read sir. I think everything you post has an edge, the kind that if fallen off may get you put in to a nice little home where matron can clean your botty every day.

My opinion is my own, hence it an opinion. Why would I waste my time spewing it on to a message board where no one gives a toss? smile.gif

[codebox]The old c*nt has me cornered so I'll try some ageism and see if I can body swerve the rest.[/codebox]
mortonjag 2009-12-31 09:42:54
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 31 2009, 09:28 AM) [snapback]687322[/snapback]
Caveat Emptor....... laugh.gif

Cappiecat Humpter
mortonjag 2009-12-31 09:45:27
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 31 2009, 09:41 AM) [snapback]687336[/snapback]
You don't have to be homeless to sell the Big Issue wink.gif

Thank you for that dwarf, though I'm certain nobody said that one does! ph34r.gif

The Vas Deferens is a wee tube -a sort of semen flume if you will.
mortonjag 2009-12-31 09:47:02
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 31 2009, 09:40 AM) [snapback]687332[/snapback]
Do you have it with gravy? Steak and gravy pie? unsure.gif

Cheap crap marketed for greedy and fat little c*nts who should know better! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 09:52:29
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 31 2009, 09:45 AM) [snapback]687341[/snapback]
Aww it is cute when you try using everything I have annoyed you with back at me.
But when will you learn to correctly work the code box? mad.gif

I'll work the code box exactly as I please - just as I work you exactly as I please - you are merely an extension of Jaggy's right hand -some might describe you as a dick! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 09:56:23
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Dec 31 2009, 09:53 AM) [snapback]687351[/snapback]
You know that the real sign got knicked just before Christmas. They found it in 3 pieces in the north of Poland. The culprits are still not coming clean over who they were stealing it for.

A right pair of knickers?
mortonjag 2009-12-31 10:00:14
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Dec 31 2009, 09:57 AM) [snapback]687357[/snapback]
No planning permission and yet the stand should be ready for the 2010-2011 season?!

Given the time to clear the existing WDE and then the laying of foundations and building the new stand I just can't see how that can be possible.

...and apparently no money either.

If this stand is ever erected, what will have been the purpose?
mortonjag 2009-12-31 10:05:09
QUOTE(Robert-the-Bruce @ Dec 31 2007, 11:56 AM) [snapback]373174[/snapback]
WDE was the youngster who was promptly thrashed by his father for losing a shoe, I think he was around 6yrs old.

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mortonjag 2009-12-31 10:09:14
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 31 2009, 10:06 AM) [snapback]687361[/snapback]
2009 - 1973 = 36

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Jesus died at 34 and rose again.
mortonjag 2009-12-31 10:12:25
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Dec 31 2009, 10:11 AM) [snapback]687365[/snapback]
All they're doing is putting a monopitch roof over the existing embankment, not building a stand from scratch.

Fairly cheap then?
mortonjag 2009-12-31 10:19:42
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Dec 31 2009, 10:16 AM) [snapback]687368[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2009-12-31 10:21:51
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Dec 31 2009, 10:19 AM) [snapback]687371[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI think it might cost quite a lot of MUNNY to erect that!
mortonjag 2009-12-31 10:24:06
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Dec 31 2009, 10:15 AM) [snapback]687367[/snapback]
2007 - 1973 = 34

Anyway, Today is the 80th anniversary of the disaster, there is a wreath laying ceremony at Paisley Cenotaph.

Where's the wake?
mortonjag 2009-12-31 10:29:26 WELL!


Health Secretary Nicola Sturgeon said thousands of patients were benefiting from extended opening hours and called on health boards to urge more doctors to participate.

However, the British Medical Association Scotland said the Scottish Government should review the policy to ensure it was not a waste of taxpayers’ money. mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 10:32:08
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Dec 31 2009, 10:27 AM) [snapback]687376[/snapback]
£250k on top of purchase price

Hope AD left some cash for the erection... wink.gif

Are you calling Shoogly a big dick?
mortonjag 2009-12-31 10:40:19
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 31 2009, 10:35 AM) [snapback]687379[/snapback]
Well, that's my arguement blown out the water then. sad.gif

I thought our support was above that, or are you referring to the Tommy Two Scarf element? Who I don't class as Ton fans anwway. happy.gif

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I'm confused by all this. I'm assuming that 'true' Ton fans are expected to launch all manner of foul mouthed abuse at innocent wee souls from Pishley - in fact noising up the opposition seems to be accepted as part of football those days, so what's wrong with saying 'nasty' things about them Tyms or Hunnes? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 10:43:12
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 31 2009, 10:40 AM) [snapback]687380[/snapback]
Awww, again very cute.

But who has changed to topic way from what it was originally meant to be?
As they say in Still Game, your weclome smile.gif

Is it possible for you to rephrase that in intelligible English, dwarf?

Anyway, it's good to see that you agree with me about the Shooglefud! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 10:45:08
QUOTE(C B @ Dec 31 2009, 10:42 AM) [snapback]687382[/snapback]
The whole Cuthbert thing really makes me laugh laugh.gif

May as well put Craig Coyle, they are practically the same person ph34r.gif

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mortonjag 2009-12-31 10:50:55
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Dec 31 2009, 10:45 AM) [snapback]687385[/snapback]
Nor (if you are here illegally) can you get a legal driving licence, or legal benefits, or vote as you point out, or a social security card or a loan to buy a house.

But hey, those type of facts don't sell papers or goad the masses into throwing on the jodhpurs again.

Said it before and I'll say it again - I genuinely fear a Fourth Reich.

TonInDublin

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Indeed - in which it may be somewhat scary to be blond and white! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 12:07:02
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Dec 31 2009, 11:05 AM) [snapback]687392[/snapback]
Oh, c'mon.....you can't tell me calling some a Paisley **** is even in the same ballpark as a feenian ****? rolleyes.gif

It's all about opinions. To assume that somebody is worthy of derision just because he comes from a particular town is certainly worse in my eyes than berating the Old Firm!
mortonjag 2009-12-31 12:08:50
QUOTE(C B @ Dec 31 2009, 10:56 AM) [snapback]687391[/snapback]
Whassat face huh.gif

It was a puzzled face. Coyle was a good third division keeper and Cuthbert's a good first division keeper! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 12:10:46
QUOTE(MrX @ Dec 31 2009, 10:52 AM) [snapback]687389[/snapback]
Love the smell a ma ain sh1te.... don't like the smell a others peoples sh1te.

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That's very interesting. Ones own keech can smell very attractive - but not always! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 12:12:23
QUOTE(se65an @ Dec 31 2009, 10:49 AM) [snapback]687386[/snapback]
Can it not make its mind up?

It has.

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 31 2009, 11:33 AM) [snapback]687397[/snapback]
Time to make the british Medical Association defunct. The NHS is devolved and a complete separate entity from the rest of the UK. Time to set up the Scottish Medical Association.

The Scottish division of the BMA is virtually autonomous.
mortonjag 2009-12-31 12:13:26 This is an annual joke. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 12:14:54
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 31 2009, 11:44 AM) [snapback]687405[/snapback]
Your pillows don't match. laugh.gif

Has 'Made in China' written all over it! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 12:15:55
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 31 2009, 12:15 PM) [snapback]687422[/snapback]
Why do we have to have a division ? Why can't we have a completely separate entity ?

I assume it's got something to do with us being part of Great Britain.
mortonjag 2009-12-31 12:17:31
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 31 2009, 12:15 PM) [snapback]687421[/snapback]
A coupla copraphiliacs.

Coprophagy is not all bad!
mortonjag 2009-12-31 12:23:33
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Dec 31 2009, 12:14 PM) [snapback]687419[/snapback]
I would say speaking from professional experience that it will be extremely tight if the stand is to be ready for the start of the 2010/11 season. Unless they have a friend in planning who can expedite the application, a submission early January would not be approved until late Feb / mid March.

The problem would likely not be with Planning given that the ground is zoned for recreational / sports use but would come with Building Control. I haven't seen the plans but I would imagine that in shoe horning a stand into the WDE area and looking at the existing topography there may be issues over disabled access, emergency exits, toilet provision and the likes. The rest of the ground has been upgraded and so a betterment rule would apply whereas I would think this would be viewed as a new structure and so there may be some need for some relaxations on the Building Regs to get Building Warrant approval.

As I say this is only conjecture as I have not seen the plans but I would have thought that the stat approvals would at least have been submitted by now if they are to achieve an opening by the start of next season.

I always respect folk's professional opinions, and I've no reason to doubt that you are correct.

That clearly begs the question about information disseminated at the recent AGM. Indeed it occurs to me that certain people willingly accept some of the sayings of Shoogly and son as Gospel, while calling others into question. unsure.gif

mortonjag 2009-12-31 12:28:21
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 31 2009, 12:20 PM) [snapback]687429[/snapback]
But the Scottish NHS is separate from the UK. Why does London have to hold onto the reigns on something it has no control over ? blink.gif

Keeping on topic, the Scottish Division of the BMA is pretty well independent already. Don't forget Spurtle that the BMA is a trades union, and not to be confused with the GMC.
mortonjag 2009-12-31 12:30:58
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Dec 31 2009, 12:29 PM) [snapback]687437[/snapback]
Who are the certain people you refer to?

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mortonjag 2009-12-31 12:34:14
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Dec 31 2009, 12:20 PM) [snapback]687427[/snapback]
And with that last forgiving breath I’ll finally be free
Of bonds that I had clung to, that were clinging on to me
In hindsight I’ll feel foolish, when I think not long ago
Of tears I cried, sincerely, as I ran thru crystal snow.

Crystal Snow - TonInDublin

One of the verses of the songs/poems I scribble down to while away the quiet hours.

Pretty much sums up 2009 for me.

Zorro! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 12:36:23
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 31 2009, 12:33 PM) [snapback]687440[/snapback]
Is the GMC a separate entity ? (sorry for the confusion)

Aye - the GMC is supposed to regulate the profession and is largely composed (in my opinion) of the usual arseholes who love being on committees and were too clever to join the Polis.
mortonjag 2009-12-31 12:38:27
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Dec 31 2009, 09:42 AM) [snapback]687337[/snapback]
And what's that got to do with the price of eggs? Your turning into Mortonjag with your evasions. wink.gif

Mortonjag's 'evasions' are an Inverclyde illusion. smile.gif

PS - this habit of using 'your' instead of 'you're' is becoming epidemic on our massage board! I accept that some folk just cannot spell but many of our apparently educated posters have contracted the disease.
mortonjag 2009-12-31 12:42:17
QUOTE(C B @ Dec 31 2009, 12:40 PM) [snapback]687448[/snapback]
Walker was a lively enough substitute, but when he played from the start he looked liked he'd won a competition to play striker for a day. Nosebleed syndrome infront of goal !

Masterton is (debatably) the most gifted player we have, all good team needs someone of his ability, just because he doesn't run about like a headless chicken during a match some Morton fans don't rate him.

Does that answer your question smile.gif

...as is any member of the squad! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 12:43:32
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Dec 31 2009, 12:35 PM) [snapback]687442[/snapback]
I believe that Douglas Rae is an honourable man.

I think his credibility over certain things is open to question.

I don't think Mr Donald's departure is one of those.

TonInDublin

So it's honourable to tell porkies? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 12:45:23
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 31 2009, 12:41 PM) [snapback]687449[/snapback]
Moran Taing

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mortonjag 2009-12-31 12:47:26
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 31 2009, 11:56 AM) [snapback]687408[/snapback]
The guy sums up the modern footballer for me; moody, spolit, over inflated opinion of himself whilst not actually being fit to lace the boots of Larsson, who was a gentleman of the game.

I know his ex neighbour in Bothwell who claims he was quite dour and 'as tight as a badger's arse'. huh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 12:59:14
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Dec 31 2009, 12:45 PM) [snapback]687456[/snapback]
My pet hate as well. Apologies.

Your forgiven! blush.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 13:01:19
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 31 2009, 12:37 PM) [snapback]687444[/snapback]
I'll wager most of what you own was made in or contains components made in China.

Nothing in my cellar came from China - oh wait - I do recall that evening our carry out was late! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 13:04:46
QUOTE(MrX @ Dec 31 2009, 12:42 PM) [snapback]687453[/snapback]
Don't know whit that is, but it sounds good! smile.gif Is that code fur some kinda skat party?! huh.gif

Literally 'the love of keech' though loosely interpreted as an evening at THE GMSC! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 13:06:47
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 31 2009, 01:04 PM) [snapback]687462[/snapback]
A *racial slur removed* in his arbour? Cue 'for shame Edwards'. laugh.gif

I just cannot accept that chinks no longer appear in curtains.

EUREKA - they DO! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 13:09:44
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Dec 31 2009, 01:04 PM) [snapback]687463[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Dec 31 2009, 10:19 AM) [snapback]687372[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I believe this is only the 3rd time Morton have been live on the telly (correct me if i'm wrong)

I was at the other two....

vs Motherwell - 19th March 1991 (lost on penalties)
and
vs Celtic - 8th March 1999 (pumped 3-0)

so I am going to stay home and have a very surreal experience.

Wish it was in HD mellow.gif

We'll get that when we play Rangers in the next round...

I doubt it - Morton are not terribly popular with the media those days. After we beat the Hunnes though, they may find us harder to ignore! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 13:12:57
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 31 2009, 01:11 PM) [snapback]687467[/snapback]
Don't knock it 'til you've tried it as you say. Might be better than to be loose in the bowels of your cellar (or even loosening your bowels in your cellar). tongue.gif

Is there a limit on the number of dissections per annum?
mortonjag 2009-12-31 13:21:59
QUOTE(C B @ Dec 31 2009, 01:14 PM) [snapback]687469[/snapback]
Ok smarty knickers - Masterton IS the most gifted player we have tongue.gif

unsure.gif

I'd really love to agree with you, and it obviously depends on which gifts you rate most highly. He's usually pretty deadly with free kicks etc., and once in a while he can be pretty creative - I honestly can't think of much else, though I'm not underestimating the value of a 'dead ball' situation during a game.

I think Davie MacGregor's a better all round footballer than Masterton - but he sadly needs too much time to demonstrate his skills.

Spoonsy's a pretty complete footballer for me - I believe he's extremely gifted, as is DVZ.

Oh, and Alex Walker's a gifted lad too. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 13:23:40
QUOTE(Deano1874 @ Dec 31 2009, 01:16 PM) [snapback]687471[/snapback]
Whats happening with the 'briefs that will be sold closer to the game'?

Is this an auction?
mortonjag 2009-12-31 13:25:13
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Dec 31 2009, 01:17 PM) [snapback]687472[/snapback]
A big no. Steak pie should only have quality steak, best to cook you own filling. Cook the steak in Guiness and add some chopped button mushrooms 10 mins before the end of cooking.

That's a waste of a chopper! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 13:29:32
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 31 2009, 01:15 PM) [snapback]687470[/snapback]
I'm sure there must be, but you're the Doctor so you should know.

Anus - an old lady in Latin.

I'm not really into chopping up old ladies Mr Edwards - well not yet. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 13:31:46
QUOTE(Deano1874 @ Dec 31 2009, 01:28 PM) [snapback]687479[/snapback]
If you want to auction your underwear then feel free...

Hmm - do you think I'd raise much? smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 13:34:43
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Dec 31 2009, 01:18 PM) [snapback]687474[/snapback]
My dad worked at the club for a spell a few years back when John Wilson was chairman. Me old man hated Rae for the way he looked down on people and his general attitude towards a lot of the staff

People tend to give of their best when they feel valued and respected.
mortonjag 2009-12-31 13:40:25
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Dec 31 2009, 01:32 PM) [snapback]687485[/snapback]
You eat choppers?
Served with some fava beans and a nice Chianti? unsure.gif

I am not Hannibal Lecter! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 13:49:55
QUOTE(Deano1874 @ Dec 31 2009, 01:47 PM) [snapback]687498[/snapback]
Would depend on colour and whether they'd been washed or not. It would be an exchange anyway, they get MJ's incontenence pad, you can a fashionable black ankle braclet.

I only use disposables sad.gif !
mortonjag 2009-12-31 13:51:39
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 31 2009, 01:36 PM) [snapback]687491[/snapback]
No that was McArthur's presumption. My meaning was 'impoverished person' but whatever, I'll leave 'the shame' for the judgemental. biggrin.gif

So Shoogly's an old beggar?
mortonjag 2009-12-31 13:57:59
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 31 2009, 01:42 PM) [snapback]687495[/snapback]
Ach, yer old anus in parsley.

The term Sir, is 'Your arse and parsley'. I gather 'parsley' was an old English word for pubic hair (Buggs Bunny's big cousin), and of course there is no pubic hair around the anus! cool.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 14:16:09
QUOTE(C B @ Dec 31 2009, 02:14 PM) [snapback]687511[/snapback]
Yes, "there's only two Jim McAlisters" rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2009-12-31 14:28:09
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Dec 31 2009, 01:33 PM) [snapback]687486[/snapback]
Think it was either Jimmy Logan or Francie and Josie that said that catch phrase. But i am not sure what the girls were?

That will be correct - Auntie Kate used to love the pantomime! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 14:50:50
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Dec 31 2009, 02:28 PM) [snapback]687516[/snapback]
That will be correct - Auntie Kate used to love the pantomime! laugh.gif


Edited: Here's the answerTommy Lorne of Lorne sausages

mortonjag 2009-12-31 15:21:04 My serious assessment:


Best Overall Poster of the year: Probably McArthur - his sense of humour goes right OTT for most!

Worst Overall Poster of the year: Without a doubt Spot Ton -using the forum to further his agenda anonymously is extremely naughty!

Best Wean (Under 18): Deego's been around for ages -if he's still under 18, then him for his mischief and cheek!

Worst Wean (Under 18): Too many to choose from.

Best Female Poster of the year: Mrs Ton (though she's really a man)

Funniest Poster of the year: Boozie often makes me laugh out loud

The sense of humour bypass poster of the year Poor Trick just doesn't get the Scottish humour

Best Newcomer this year Greenock Guv partly for questioning the status quo and mostly because they don't like it!

Worst Newcomer this year MidTONs who's turned into a bitter and twisted old lollipop man! laugh.gif

Best Poster Who Stopped Posting As Much This Year And Is Sorely Missed: 44TT though it's good to see him back

Poster Who Stopped Posting As Much This Year Who Won't be Missed Piehole - bless him!

Best Thread this year: every thread has potential

Worst Thread this year: any thread can be wasted

The " I know something you don't know " poster of the year Stuart Duncan for telling us what Shoogly told him!

The blown out of all proportion thread of the year: the AD thread

Favourite poster you met this year I've only met two and they are both good guys.

Poster you would have liked to have met this year Puggsy - in private.

Biggest Stud Haven't a clue

Hottest Female As above

Best Overseas Poster: NewTON by a country mile -much misunderstood

Best Mod Boozie or TiD, or if we're talking Polis and not Mods -Bryan

The " Ghost goes in a huff " Biggest Pisshead award I'm not sure what's meant by 'pisshead' but Nach0's a huffy wee choob!

Biggest Geek: Again I'm not sure what a'Geek' is so I'll nominate Vikington as he doesn't know what he is either!



Special Contribution Award : Mabawsa Ritchie for crawling out of the woodwork to defend his master on the AD thread! mad.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 15:38:47
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 31 2009, 03:12 PM) [snapback]687535[/snapback]
You know fine well what the purpose is, stop being facetious.

No son, I really, really don't. unsure.gif

Rae admits he's skint, so why is his remaining cash going to be spent on a 'new' stand to house the ever diminishing crowds. Think about it. It makes no sense whatsoever.

There again he may as well fritter away what's left on something tangible-something he'll be remembered by - bricks and mortar if you will! That of course may simply fill the 'McCaig's Folly' category once he's shot the craw, but 'waste' the remaining dosh by providing a better standard of football for the fans while he still can? He's never considered them before and he ain't going to change now.

Shoogly's NEVER going to see the SPL off his own bat, and I suspect he may secretly admit that to himself.

SO - again I'll ask..... what WILL the purpose of this stand be, if it ever gets off the ground it's rusting on?
mortonjag 2009-12-31 17:09:20
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 31 2009, 03:55 PM) [snapback]687546[/snapback]
Where your opinion falls down is that you genuinely think your interpretation of the likelihood of SPL football is:
1. fact
2. shared by the club's ambitions.

As both of the above are clearly incorrect, you're either mentally deranged or facetious.

I could of course be mentally deranged and facetious simultaneously, but I don't for one minute believe that you or any other poster really believes that. Indeed, to do so would confirm to me your/their insanity, something I am qualified to do! smile.gif

I'm simply looking at a scenario which for me does not add up.

The Club has stated often that it has ambitions to be in the SPL, but actions speak louder than words. It can be argued that the Raes are attempting a precarious balancing act - trying to bring the stadium up to SPL standard while maintaining a footing in the First Division, and there's nothing wrong with that in principle, BUT all the signs suggest to me that the purse strings are being tightened on the playing side - in fact I'm much more optimistic about our STAYING in the 'First' this season than many well informed posters, and there are murmurs about part time status - while there's talk of this new stand plus under soil heating perhaps costing ultimately a cool half million!. Alan Moore was never coming to Cappielow -he simply couldn't have been afforded - bugger all to do with the stuff about nasty Mr McGregor at Stirling if you ask me. Shoogly's a past master of 'spin'.

So you may be correct about the Club's 'ambitions', but I suspect you are sadly mistaken about my interpretation of the likelihood of SPL football under the Raes. If they CAN do it, power to their elbows, and I shall be delighted to shake their hands on graduation day.

mortonjag 2009-12-31 17:47:13
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 31 2009, 05:41 PM) [snapback]687601[/snapback]
You must have been a poor doctor then blink.gif

I never once complained about my professional income.
mortonjag 2009-12-31 17:51:24
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Dec 31 2009, 05:15 PM) [snapback]687592[/snapback]
We have a hardcore of about 1500 supporters and I doubt many if any would buy this product . Some have said who cares or its another way of making money , I disagree.

I would be interested to know whose idea this was and what grasp they have in being a supporter of the club ?
What attitude do those who campaign against Old firm tops at Cappielow have to this situation
?

For commercial ideas the first thing the club should do is organise an electronic mailing list but they can hardly get the website update.

I would have bought the 3rd kit top and the new rugby style shirt with the cash I got for Xmas but I will now not bother until I have some confidence in the club.

IMHO an own goal for the club and when we play this match and the Shed and Sinclair Street are awash with green and white then we will have no recourse as the club sold our identity for a few scarves.

The idea seems to have backfired both commercially and by further alienating the 'hard core' you mention. Hopefully the game itself ends peacefully or the Club may end up further out of pocket because of its muddle headed and patently grasping ticket allocation.
mortonjag 2009-12-31 17:54:27
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 31 2009, 05:51 PM) [snapback]687611[/snapback]
Not in public wink.gif

I always felt that I was adequately remunerated. I never complained publicly or privately. Perhaps that was because I had other sources of income! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 17:56:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 31 2009, 05:45 PM) [snapback]687603[/snapback]
It seems from the tone of this thread that you're in agreement with the trade union portrayal. Why?

Because Nickerless is a Fud. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 18:01:22
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 31 2009, 05:58 PM) [snapback]687616[/snapback]
Err, surely if this is Smiths' merchandise then it is Smiths that ends up out of pocket?

Hmm - you may be correct. I thought the idea was that Smiths act as the selling agents for Morton merchandise, and I therefore assumed that perhaps the Club obtained some income via that arrangement.
mortonjag 2009-12-31 18:15:18
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 31 2009, 06:09 PM) [snapback]687625[/snapback]
From the reading of the stuff on here it seems the Morton crest etc isn't as detailed. I don't know whether this is a partnership of merchandise, or whether Smiths are doing it off their own backs. I've an inkling its the latter, as it seems a more profit-minded activity.

I don't know. Perhaps Smiths just pay Morton an agreed annual sum for the right to sell the stuff.
mortonjag 2009-12-31 18:17:27
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 31 2009, 06:15 PM) [snapback]687629[/snapback]
I'm going to try and be less tolerant and more grumpy. I'm far too laid back.

I'm going to attempt to be much more tolerant. One can but try! smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 18:24:53
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 31 2009, 06:21 PM) [snapback]687633[/snapback]
Good for you Douglas. We could become the boards ying and yang. mellow.gif

I actually hate New Year with all of its faux friendliness and whas like us pish. I'm sitting here teaching myself how to play 'Then I See a Darkness' on the mandolin wishing it was over.

Is a mandolin tuned in the same manner as a fiddle?
mortonjag 2009-12-31 18:27:12
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Dec 31 2009, 06:25 PM) [snapback]687636[/snapback]
Nearly choked on my Gratin Dauphinoise there laugh.gif

Boyfriend's dick? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 18:30:13
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 31 2009, 06:26 PM) [snapback]687637[/snapback]
I'm a wee bit early but my excuse is I'm off soon to the deserts of East Kilbride to bring in the New Year. So have a good one and as Col would have us say : Bliadhna Mhath Ur dhuibh uile, or alternatively, A guid new year to yin an' a'.
All the very best .

One hopes your 2010 makes you healthier, wealthier, and a lot wiser Mr Edwards! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 18:32:12
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 31 2009, 06:29 PM) [snapback]687642[/snapback]
Yes; E A D G.

I thought that-I seem to remember I had some sort of mandolin in my teens but it was double stringed (like a twelve string guitar).
mortonjag 2009-12-31 18:38:32
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 31 2009, 06:35 PM) [snapback]687651[/snapback]
It is double strung.

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDThat's a nice looking instrument.
mortonjag 2009-12-31 19:09:01
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Dec 31 2009, 06:44 PM) [snapback]687659[/snapback]
You're getting confused with K N O B Gratin. Two different courses , as well you know.

I'll be having Keech Lorraine, Toad in the Hole, and Spotted Dick washed down with a bottle of Bucky!
mortonjag 2009-12-31 20:00:01
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Dec 31 2009, 07:44 PM) [snapback]687694[/snapback]
You, are a plonker. laugh.gif

You are an impostor.

QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Dec 31 2009, 07:56 PM) [snapback]687707[/snapback]
No money? says who? or have you at last come to the conclusion that AD was having a laugh when he said he was worth £70m or was it £110m, or £250m like him I've forgotten what his last quoted figure was. laugh.gif

There has been no proof of any of the allegations made against AD. smile.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 20:05:26
QUOTE(leyTON @ Dec 31 2009, 07:46 PM) [snapback]687695[/snapback]
doesnt thatcher have a disease that is famed for the longevity of its sufferers.

Humanity?
mortonjag 2009-12-31 20:15:35
QUOTE(leyTON @ Dec 31 2009, 07:56 PM) [snapback]687706[/snapback]
****ing hell, oly just discovered this thread, very helpful

So did I, and this comment caught my attention:

don't forget that doctors are mostly cnts. they're worse than the masons for covering up for each other. if you don't like how they're treating you, move on to another

In my professional experience patients who believe that most doctors are c*nts are invariably self obsessed time wasting hypochondriacs who 'know their rights' and very little else. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 20:17:01
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Dec 31 2009, 08:15 PM) [snapback]687718[/snapback]
Daft dugs like these two .....

I take it from the jaikits that they're pouffes!
mortonjag 2009-12-31 20:18:53
QUOTE(Deego @ Dec 31 2009, 08:16 PM) [snapback]687720[/snapback]
You must be a **** then!

I am a total c*nt and proud so to be! wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 20:20:05
QUOTE(piehutt @ Dec 31 2009, 08:18 PM) [snapback]687723[/snapback]
Get to 14 stone something.

Pass two CII exams.

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mortonjag 2009-12-31 20:20:56
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 31 2009, 08:19 PM) [snapback]687725[/snapback]
Just realising? huh.gif

Jeez -it's back! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 20:23:27
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 31 2009, 08:12 PM) [snapback]687715[/snapback]
Source? ph34r.gif

None of your business dwarf. Perhaps Bryan will ask me nicely! dry.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 20:32:12
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Dec 31 2009, 08:22 PM) [snapback]687729[/snapback]
One pouffe and one carpet muncher.

TonInDublin

ps edited to reply they are not normal jaikits - that's their santa outfits. Don't even ask. And as for last hallowe'en ! Nuff said. Two gayest dogs in Kildare.

Here's ours
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mortonjag 2009-12-31 20:34:11
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 31 2009, 08:27 PM) [snapback]687735[/snapback]
And perhaps you wont answer smile.gif

There's a first time for everything dwarf - as you dream daily.
mortonjag 2009-12-31 20:35:43
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Dec 31 2009, 08:27 PM) [snapback]687736[/snapback]
Can you and Jaggy kiss and make up, it's a new year and all that. wub.gif

NO-he's a wee keech! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 20:38:47
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Dec 31 2009, 08:33 PM) [snapback]687741[/snapback]
Jeezo MJ, I always thought you were joking about that cellar but even your dog's got a ball gag.
I'm impressed ! And slightly worried ....... laugh.gif

TonInDublin

She's as gentle as a baby with humans but wants to rip all small animals to shreds. Called the 'prey drive' I'm told.

Her Daddy was an English and Irish Derby winner and Gold Cup Winner - sounds very posh I know but we only discovered after we rescued her!
mortonjag 2009-12-31 20:40:29
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 31 2009, 08:39 PM) [snapback]687749[/snapback]
Sounds like an offer biggrin.gif

Go for it dwarf and gie's peace! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 20:52:15
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 31 2009, 08:42 PM) [snapback]687752[/snapback]
Sadly it is not looking likely. Piping at the bells then home I think sad.gif

That wee cardboard box will be Baltic the night dwarf - you are welcome to a long sleep in Jaggy's cellar - would you like me to pick you up? wub.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 20:54:16
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Dec 31 2009, 08:47 PM) [snapback]687756[/snapback]
Are you an emergency plumber, gas fitter type...or something more interesting? unsure.gif

He's a professional killer! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2009-12-31 20:56:06 I can't bear to think of how much I spent on my ex wife. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-01 10:08:27 Detached from reality

Brian Keighley was in Mortonjag's year at that proper University. Needless to say Mortonjag's achievements eclipsed those of the bespectacled 'Country Gent' figure who regularly wore a tweed sports jacket and had 'Tory' all over his face.

Even in those days he was upper middle class, aspirant, humourless and detached from 'the lads'.

He's spent his life pretending to be a G.P. in a well heeled area when in reality it's largely gone on committees and gaining more power. More fool his partners, but you'll always get the 'Shooglyphile' types who happily blind themselves to reality so long as they may 'bask in reflected glory'. ph34r.gif

At University, Mortonjag jocularly called him the'keech', and today he proves me correct.

Power without knowledge and worse, without responsibility -whether it's the Mods, Rae, Duncan, Bawheid, or Brown - that makes the Jag seethe. thumbdown.gif

As for Nickerless - she's just a sad wee fud.
mortonjag 2010-01-01 10:23:01
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Dec 31 2009, 10:37 PM) [snapback]687792[/snapback]
The proof ,as they say ,is in the pudding, "show me the money"

There has not been a shred of concrete proof of any of the allegations (made on this pubic massage board) aginst Alistair Donald.

Nor is there a shred of proof that you are not Stuart Duncan whom I believe you are

I now FORMALLY charge YOU to put up or shut up. After all Jaggy doesn't want to be misjudging a DIRECTOR! wacko.gif

And Mortonjag doesn't wish a Happy New Year to anonymous creeps who flog their self indulgent and flawed agendas to innocent posters either.

I do, however, wish you a rabid New Year, Measles. rip.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-01 10:25:56
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jan 1 2010, 12:06 AM) [snapback]687804[/snapback]
Happy New Year to all Morton supporters.

F*CK OFF


I don't want to be wished a happy New Year by some anonymous mangy cur! mad.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-01 10:34:04
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 1 2010, 02:42 AM) [snapback]687817[/snapback]
puggsy has got the doc well rattled laugh.gif resorting to personal abuse etc. good lad puggs.

'Rattled' and 'irritated' are entirely different. Mortonjag has long since noted that the smaller the vermin, the more irritating they are!

Unlike the poison dwarf, I note that you only spend 90% of your time 'jumping on bandwagons' for a cheap laugh from the brain damaged. Occasionally you venture an opinion, for which I commend you.

On that note, do you regard Rae as an honourable man?

Oh Aye - and I'm supposed to say 'Happy New Year' because that's what you do I believe! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-01 10:44:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Dec 31 2009, 10:30 PM) [snapback]687789[/snapback]
Did Jesus Christ not partake of wine ?

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NOPE

Common misconception

He turned water into wine at a marriage feast at Cana

There is no mention in the King James version at least of Christ indulging in alcohol


(so far as I recall).

Mind you it's hard to believe that a raging homo being chased around the desert by a dozen bronzed pouffes wasn't into Coke, never mind wine. happy.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-01 10:46:39 My first action as Mod would be to top myself the minute I discovered my new role.
mortonjag 2010-01-01 10:53:29
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jan 1 2010, 10:44 AM) [snapback]687857[/snapback]
Are you qualified - I thought you were merely a GP? By the way, the Stirling Albion Chairman is Peter McKenzie, not McGregor. Not like you to be wrong! laugh.gif laugh.gif

You thought 'wrong' son. dry.gif

Unlike yourself, Mortonjag has many qualifications .

Shooglyphilia is an ailment - NOT a qualification, and at its worst may merit detention under the Mental Health Acts, with which Mortonjag is well acquainted.

Do not overdo 'The Club's porky pies by the way! When Cappie gets done for the paedo stuff, you may have to act the poosy.

For that you are abundantly endowed. wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-01 10:56:18
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 1 2010, 10:16 AM) [snapback]687849[/snapback]
Sturgeon -:

"The SNP is governing for the people and that is why we continue to win support across Scotland.

"As a country, we will face challenges and tough times ahead as we all pay the price for Labour's recession. While the negativity of other parties holds Scotland back, the SNP will put you, your family and your job first.

"The real fight in 2010 is not the phoney war between Labour and Tory - the tweedledum and tweedledee of UK politics - the real fight is for Scotland and to make the coming decade Scotland's decade.

"In 2009 Scotland's voters backed the SNP in the only UK wide election, and across all elections, putting the SNP first for Scotland in Europe and giving Scotland a stronger voice.

"In 2010 voters will have that opportunity again to ensure Scotland's voice is heard. We are already seeing the opposition parties try to cut Scotland out - telling the Scottish people who to vote for instead of debating Scottish issues.

"Whoever wins the phoney war at Westminster, only the SNP will give Scotland the stronger, louder voice we will all need in the years ahead.

"And as we work to bring in the legislation for a referendum on Scotland's future, only the SNP that want to give you the right to a voice here at home.

"While Labour, Tory and Lib Dem arrogantly assume they know best in 2010, the SNP want you to make the decision with a chance to cast your vote for Scotland's future.

"As we mark the start of another year and a new decade, let's make this year the year Scotland's voice is heard at home, in London and around the world."

Well said Nicola !


Written by a deluded tartan tory scriptwriter as she lovingly stroked the Mach 3 over her manly stubble while singing 'Jerusalem' in ragtime. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-01 10:59:24
QUOTE(Flyerton @ Jan 1 2010, 10:54 AM) [snapback]687862[/snapback]
Buy yourself an off the shelf Power Board package and create your own site?

The way things are going that is something I may SERIOUSLY consider this year. This pubic massage board is corrupt beyond credibility. To call it independent is like calling Quentin Crisp a Spartan! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-01 11:06:07
QUOTE(Flyerton @ Jan 1 2010, 11:02 AM) [snapback]687866[/snapback]
Is it me or is the SNP pro Edinburgh compared to Glasgow?

Whilst Edinburgh are getting trams, the much wanted GARL gets the chop?

[youtube]fKVkopLI2hs[/youtube]

If Spurtle thinks that's a criticism he'll say 'No' but the truth is that 'Bawheid' operates mainly in Embra so you may draw your own conclusions.

He was incidentally the only boy child of ageing Linlithgow parents and has all the trimmings of the closet pouffe. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-01 11:45:34
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 1 2010, 11:21 AM) [snapback]687874[/snapback]
Depends on what allegations you're talking about.

The fact he owes us money or the fact he is not loaded ?

I have no proof of the latter, but an awful lot of anecdotal evidence to suggest that getting his paws on hard cash, like most people worth a lot of money on paper, is a problem right now.

As for the former, it's well documented in the accounts and was openly discussed, and therefore minuted, at the AGM.

TonInDublin

So far as I can see neither of the highlighted items IS a 'fact'. smile.gif

Mortonjag is well aware of what those eight month old accounts appear to show.

Mortonjag is also well aware that private arrangements do not appear in public accounts.

Mortonjag can produce an invoice and receipt for a £40,000 BMW -it's in Mortonjag's name, though it was a present from a relative who 'provided' the cash 'Up Front'. sleep.gif

Mortonjag does not require your 'anecdotal evidence' to know that most extremely wealthy businessmen deliberately make it difficult for themselves to access 'hard cash', while simultaneously making it extremely difficult for The Revenue and Excise wallahs to do the same! laugh.gif

So where does that leave us?

If Douglas Rae is an honourable man it is reasonable to believe that Mr Donald is otherwise.

Mortonjag has 'a lot of anecdotal evidence' to suggest that Alistair Donald is a complete gentleman.

Mortonjag also has documented evidence of Mr Rae pursuing for money he was not owed. For obvious reasons Mortonjag must add that that may have been a mistake on his part. unsure.gif

People do tend to repeat their 'mistakes'. dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-01 11:50:59
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jan 1 2010, 11:14 AM) [snapback]687871[/snapback]
Do you seethe about your own lack of responsibility and knowledge then ? The great medical genius that you are, who can misdiagnose a serious medical complaint. Maybe its the lack of your own power that drives you on.

That requires explanation, if indeed you have any! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-01 12:09:17
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 1 2010, 11:12 AM) [snapback]687869[/snapback]
Genuine LOL !!!!!!

Happy New Year Ernie !

As for the message board - lacking in wit at times ? Yes. s***e at times ? Yes. Boring at times ? Yes. Outrageously funny at times ? Yes Controversial at times ? Yes.

But corrupt !!!!! It's a message board partner !

Tell you what, you get yours started and I'll join - no problemo.

But seriously, in the meantime, as Marshall Goldsmith taught me "take a deep breath and let it all go - you know those thoughts ain't helping you, deep breath and let 'em all go".

Turn off them negative vibes !

TonInDublin

It IS corrupt in that is is far from independent, is owned by a Club official, and is Moderated by a Trusty who is in awe of a Director who appears to post under at least two names. It is 'corrupt' because those who question the status quo at Cappielow are deliberately singled out by the Mods -they get no protection against all manner of abuse- and are banned and warned at the slightest opportunity. My warn level has insidiuously crept up to 50% with NO explanation -nor was there EVER any reasonable explanation for previous 'warnings' which remained hidden until GKR arrived on the scene. Thee pm's to one of the Mods and I still await an explanation for this latest rise in my 'badness' graph! unsure.gif

Why was the Jesse forum incepted? Folk have short and convenient memories.

Rae has well infiltrated Greenockmorton.org, and in my opinion that is wrong.

Several Rae employees still post anonymously - no harm when they keep it balanced but they DON'T! ph34r.gif

And of course one of the biggest scourges at the moment - the utter joke that is the Trust in its present form and cannot take a word of criticism - and of course the Trust is BIG on Greenockmorton.org - so maybe the time IS right for a new and genuinely independent message board.

None so blind as those who will not see - eh! laugh.gif

That'll be the Jag's warn level up to 70% now!!! rolleyes.gif When they ban me I'll have no choice but to start my own independent forum. That would indeed be fun!

Anyway Johnny Boy - a very happy, healthy, and prosperous New Year to you and yours! smile.gif

mortonjag 2010-01-02 10:09:28
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 1 2010, 12:01 PM) [snapback]687886[/snapback]
Well sometimes looking at track records can give you a clue - sound familiar ?

http://findarticles.com/p/news-articles/sc...ag=content;col1

Or this one ?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/worl...ticle492549.ece

Look Ernie - there is no one more disappointed in me that Mr Donald chose not to invest in the club. The club needs a large dose of inward investment to let us make the leap from Div 1 mediocrity to our rightful place in SPL mediocrity.

But the harsh facts are that Mr Donald didn't chose to invest, he didn't bring a whole pile of business smarts to the table, he didn't pay for the St Mirren stand, and the only LEGAL and tangible thing we have to rely on is that he owed money as per the accounts which are a matter of public record.

He has been cited as the white knight on the steed at Rangers (twice now), Clyde and Morton - with the same results.

He was quoted as being worth £70M in 2004/2005. If you dig a wee bit deeper into that then you may conclude that based on the investments he was involved in - that his £70M is nowhere near that mark right now - and while his wealth would still be substantial for the likes of me and you - it is not at the level where he can throw even a million of it at a first division football club that runs at a loss of somewhere between 250k-500k a season -and thats assuming he could free up a million of liquid cash right now - if he has invested as most people of his ilk have, then that is not an option right now.

Please note that all of the above is my opinion based on the research I have done - and is not a criticism or a statement of fact - for the benefit of the "friend" who reads the board.

Jesus, if we had as many of these lackeys working for the club instead of reading this message board and sending indignant emails, we'd be in the ****ing Champions League by now !

TonInDublin


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mortonjag 2010-01-03 09:34:56
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 2 2010, 10:25 AM) [snapback]688168[/snapback]
Sorry mate, I might be missing you. The hedge fund thing I got from the web.
I can shoot you on the link - if somebody else can confirm this or has confirmed it then
I wasn't trying to claim it as an exclusive - more pointing out that if that was indeed where a
lot of the investment was, then it would have led to substantial losses.

Notwithstanding that, you are spot on - either way he is still a very wealthy man. But not wealthy enough I would suggest to be able to piss away one million pounds to do what needs to be done at Cappielow to get us to the SPL.

TonInDublin

edited to add - you will indeed see me for a beer partner - cannae wait - all we need is a game now !

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mortonjag 2010-01-04 12:34:59
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 1 2010, 06:52 PM) [snapback]688028[/snapback]

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mortonjag 2010-01-04 17:04:57 Partick 1 Morton 4
mortonjag 2010-01-04 17:12:54
QUOTE(Madton @ Jan 4 2010, 01:59 PM) [snapback]688846[/snapback]
I was speaking to the Management Team yest and they said they are def looking to bring in a couple of players. The chairman has gave them the go ahead to do so. One or two players may be leaving also.

Been trying for months to get Gowser, Celtic still not willing to play ball...yet!

They are not obliged to part with players for a couple Fudgy Wudgys and eulogies about them Tattie Munchers. dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-04 17:15:02
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jan 4 2010, 03:36 PM) [snapback]688898[/snapback]
Donkey dave wishes everyone a Happy New Year and he is in for the webcast tonight (assuming that I do not finish early and actually go to the bloody game...)

Identity crisis in the stable? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-04 17:21:45 The younger of two daughters of the manager of a double-glazing company and an air stewardess, she was educated at the independent Burgess Hill School For Girls in the town of Burgess Hill in West Sussex.

The air stewardess later came out as a pouffe while Holly's mother continues to see her customers coming. happy.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-04 17:40:32
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 1 2010, 08:13 PM) [snapback]688059[/snapback]
What was the going rate for a Russian internet bride in those days, MJ? smile.gif

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mortonjag 2010-01-04 17:42:02
QUOTE(leg-end @ Jan 2 2010, 05:37 PM) [snapback]688272[/snapback]
just wondering if anyone know of any clubs for under 4s?

my boy is wanting to go to some sort of martial arts but have not found out much info as of yet and it seems that it is for aged 4 and up, which ain't much use as he is 3.

he already goes to the mini-kicks football whenever he fancies that!

will go into the sports centres when the hours go back to normal, but was wondering if anyone has any suggestions?

thanks in advance.

I refuse to answer on the grounds that it may incriminate me.
mortonjag 2010-01-04 17:43:11
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 3 2010, 07:06 PM) [snapback]688579[/snapback]
Or it could be a complete one off, as does happen from time to time smile.gif

Added to make the point, dwarf? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-04 17:51:29 It just goes to show that you don't have to be pretty to succeed in local politics! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-04 17:56:01
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Jan 4 2010, 05:29 PM) [snapback]688971[/snapback]
I see from your post that you've worked out the new child proof locks on the medicine bottles.

I have always used a club hammer my dear! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-04 18:15:14
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 2 2010, 05:47 PM) [snapback]688277[/snapback]
I think there were close to 23,500 at the League Cup quarter final second leg against Motherwell on September 11th, 1963. Finished 2-0 to Morton. The scorers may have included Joe Caven and Bobby Campbell, or possibly it was a player called Byrne whom I can barely recall.

The terracing from the WDE round to the shed area was much steeper and higher. Watched the game from that corner.

Those were exciting days at Cappioelow. crying.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-04 18:18:14
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 4 2010, 06:11 PM) [snapback]688988[/snapback]
I don't think the current cold spell is anything to do with any fundamental change in the North Atlantic Drift. It's winter - cold spells happen. This isn't a particularly cold spell actually, no worse than what we saw regularly in the 50s and 60s.

BTW if it turns out that man made global warming is indeed a myth, will we all be forced by taxation into driving around in 6 litre V12s?

Not if the Greens are in power! happy.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-04 18:22:45
QUOTE(HamCam @ Jan 4 2010, 06:15 PM) [snapback]688992[/snapback]
I would have commented earlier but I suspected that was what NewTon was after.

He can use whatever obscure justification for the term but in reality just outs himself as a racist. There should be no double standards on this issue and the old fool should have been banned without any warning.

Watch your mouth please. That is plainly offensive.

NO DOUBLE STANDARDS REMEMBER! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-04 18:23:56
QUOTE(HamCam @ Jan 4 2010, 06:22 PM) [snapback]688999[/snapback]
Are there expenses like ? I have a goat and a dovecot to look after.

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mortonjag 2010-01-04 18:27:53
QUOTE(Zutons @ Jan 4 2010, 06:21 PM) [snapback]688997[/snapback]
During International cricket they have always been called Packis. That was never in a racist way.

Over time that word has been made into a racist word by stupid PR men and bryan.

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mortonjag 2010-01-04 18:35:38 OWE DEER - so much for the truly independent Jesse Boys' comic where one may post opinions without fear or favour.

Mortonjag thinks the old Fudge Packer's sleekit.

Spurtle thinks he's a 'Goody' just like Bawheid!

Blue's father apparently knows he's an old c*nt.

...and TiD's erse is being ripped to shreds on the fence.

So it's two for he's a keech, one for a Goody, and one 'Don't Know'! That's the issue settled then.

RAE'S A ROGUE

....oh and Puggs is still trying to work out how to spell Benny Fakter! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-04 18:37:29
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Jan 4 2010, 06:32 PM) [snapback]689005[/snapback]
Fixed that for you.

Several managers have come and gone and strangely enough we still want to sign him.

I thought the old fud admitted he was skint. huh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-04 18:40:56
QUOTE(HamCam @ Jan 4 2010, 06:31 PM) [snapback]689004[/snapback]
Not offensive, factual considering the circumstances in which your racist mate used the term. Historically the abbreviation may not have been racist but then racists decided to hijack the term. Sadly in this thread Newton shows his true colours and no surprise his partner in crime comes along to muddy the waters.

I commented solely on your presumption that my 'racist mate' (again offensive) is an old fool.

For what it's worth I agree with Zutons on this.
mortonjag 2010-01-04 18:42:26
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 4 2010, 06:39 PM) [snapback]689012[/snapback]
He's not skint Douglas, Morton are skint.

You've been keeking under my bed again Peter! mad.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-04 18:50:54
QUOTE(C B @ Jan 4 2010, 06:45 PM) [snapback]689016[/snapback]
We NEVER win on live TV......still last time my 5 year old watched us play we won 2-0 so i'm going with that tongue.gif

How are the driving lessons going?
mortonjag 2010-01-05 08:36:56
QUOTE(HamCam @ Jan 4 2010, 06:54 PM) [snapback]689020[/snapback]
What presumption ? Newton has never hidden the fact that he is no longer a youngster. He also thinks he can make himself interesting by being controversial with the use of a racist term. In my book clearly an old fool. If you cannot see that guess what that makes you ?

unsure.gif Perhaps that doesn't make me anything Capric! I'ts highly amusing to see somebody of half Newt's intelligence trying to second guess his intentions. He is no racist by any stretch of the imagination and is far from being a fool. Any controversy is caused by a shower of blinkered weans (in which I include certain of the Mod variety) who want to call black white just to further their own sad little agendas.

Furthermore if Mortonjag's going to be receiving unrepentant warnings for the proper use of the English language from folk who claim to have University degrees, there will be a hell of a lot more complaints going the Mod's way, starting with those who indiscriminately accuse their fellow posters of racism. This issue has been done to death before.

QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 4 2010, 10:27 PM) [snapback]689220[/snapback]
Is it alright if I just trust my Pakistani friends instead?

Aye - name and shame ya fat wee freak - oops - is that a personal insult - if so I retract forthwith. Don't want Bryan getting blisters on his fingers! laugh.gif

QUOTE(RankinBorn75 @ Jan 4 2010, 10:39 PM) [snapback]689229[/snapback]
Why nacho ?? Even if your mates might be offended by it doesn't make it racist ... Racist is a great word to throw about They might be igorant of the facts and I gave you a way to see that some fans call their team that and you seem happy not to worry about what they think.

Especially for unfulfilled wee fuds! laugh.gif

QUOTE(capitanus @ Jan 4 2010, 11:20 PM) [snapback]689264[/snapback]
Aye okay, Bwyan. rolleyes.gif
Hey Bryan, The bold NachOrim has used that nasty word THREE times in the above post. Any chance you could ban that fud too?

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NOT A CHANCE-Smeggy's a Mod remember. Once a Mod always a Mod! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-05 08:39:47
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 4 2010, 11:33 PM) [snapback]689278[/snapback]
No, they're there, though much higher than in any of your houses mon PETIT Rentier. rolleyes.gif

He rents out cellars? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-05 08:41:58
QUOTE(garymcc1874 @ Jan 2 2010, 03:57 PM) [snapback]688250[/snapback]
Don't bother, mortonjag.

I assume that is intended to make other posters choke on their dummies! Mortonjag would do the job FAR better than the incumbents while standing on his head! happy.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-05 08:46:18
QUOTE(vespaton @ Jan 4 2010, 11:11 PM) [snapback]689252[/snapback]
Update on progress since last post....looking grim but I suppose you gradyites will make up further excuses.

JG and AM do not have the experience and the cracks are starting to show, 2 saving graces Airdrie and Ayr but they are now building confidence from our inability to win a game so I do worry we are in a dog fight.
Partick 1-0 LOSE
Dundee 3-1 LOSE
QOS 1-2 LOSE
Ross County 1-3 LOSE
Airdrie 4-2 WIN cemented at the bottom of the league
Raith 5-0 WIN Raith down to 10 men
Partick 0-2 LOSE
Inverness 1-4 LOSE
Dunfermline 1-3 LOSE
Dundee 0-1 LOSE
Ross County 0-1 LOSE
QOS 3-2 WIN.....QOS team must have been hungover

For all youz who stated we will never get relegated hold on during this rollercoaster ride.
BP.

Is yer pal Sheep Lips looking forward to his new demotion?

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 5 2010, 01:15 AM) [snapback]689340[/snapback]
Irons kept us up last season with 48 points and a poorer squad - wake up people.
Grady's too naive to start off at this level, 12 points from 12 games is true relegation form, 2 clean sheets in 12 is damning for a caretaker, it's time we got someone experienced in to get us the points we need.

Time will tell. Injuries still a problem. Mid table finish ahead! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-05 09:45:36
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 5 2010, 09:40 AM) [snapback]689413[/snapback]
If things don't change drastically over the next 3 or 4 games (not including the Celtic game) then I fully expect Morton to be playing in division two next season. Unfortunately my gut feeling is that whether it's Grady, the players or the tooth fairy that's at fault, it's pretty much irrelevant as I don't imagine anything will be changing anytime soon.

Toothrotter! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-05 09:59:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 5 2010, 08:48 AM) [snapback]689395[/snapback]
Gidday MJ,

Please remember one thing - Inverclyde is the centre of the universe.

Apparently it's the "connotation" that's the problem/issue.

Would that be the Inverclyde connotation ?

Is not the connotation dependent on the reader as much as the writer ?

As I understand things now, the following abbreviations have zero negative connotation:

Aussie

Scot

Jap

Afghani

Pom(mie) ?

Gypo (of the Egyptian variety)

Argie ?

However I may not be on the money.



QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 5 2010, 09:00 AM) [snapback]689398[/snapback]
Gidday Bryan,

Your "ruling" does not seem to comply with the House Rules.

Are the House Rules now obsolete ?

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The 'house rules' appear to be as flexible as play dough and used in a similar fashion. I have recently received an increase in warn level for a universally accepted use of a 'Loaded Question'. Universal save for those with degrees from a purportedly proper 'University'. unsure.gif On three separate occasions I have offered said graduate an opportunity to reconsider. Said graduate, however, insists that he is correct and the Universe is mistaken! laugh.gif Newt, me old racist friend, what would YOU say if I asked - 'have you stopped beating your wife? unsure.gif

mortonjag 2010-01-05 13:42:06
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 5 2010, 01:01 PM) [snapback]689482[/snapback]
it breached forum rule 2.5. and if repeated rule 5 will be enforced
Well somuch for keeping that disccussion between us....

So much for you not replying to my third and VERY courteous p.m., Bryan. You may still restore your credibility with Mortonjag, who can also be pig headed at times. Mortonjag does not, however, have the power to warn and ban fellow posters - more's the pity! wub.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-05 13:47:27
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jan 5 2010, 11:21 AM) [snapback]689455[/snapback]
Mentaljag asking questions based on incorrect assumptions, shoorley not laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

The question assumes absolutely nothing Cawstick, as you very well know - well I'm assuming that ARE au fait with the old chestnut of a loaded question.

Then again I may overestimate you as I often do with fellow posters. Sometimes it's hard for Mortonjag to comprehend the vastness of his intellect relative to that of the average graduate. smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-05 15:22:59
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 5 2010, 12:29 PM) [snapback]689474[/snapback]
You should always have at least one guitar. This is the one I use most at the monent.

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mortonjag 2010-01-05 15:26:00
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 5 2010, 03:15 PM) [snapback]689533[/snapback]
Buy a legal (just) roadworthy motor and dump the shagger in Austria.

Consider it European recycling.

TonInDublin

Looking at the possibility of hiring a car and driving to Austria with my girlfriend.
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mortonjag 2010-01-05 16:05:26
QUOTE(The Hustler @ Jan 5 2010, 10:02 AM) [snapback]689421[/snapback]
I dont really want to have a pop at Grady although I am somewhat mystified when people continually state that we are now playing amuch better football....our obvious problem is the failure to create chances or have anyone to stick the ball in the net. the back 4 and goalie were fine last night with Shimmin an obvious class act....after that there is very little. The two in the middle of the park are planks of woosd who are clearly unable to make a forward telling pass. Finlayson is a trier with little ability and who knows what has happened to McAllister? As for Wake, again a div 2 or 3 player at best and Weatherson, who we all know has ability, has little or no support ando lacks a bit of fitness. After we lost the goal the heads went down and we probably had our worst spell of the game.
Grady is inexperienced, clearly, but I doubt he could do much more with that group of players. However relegation is now a very real possibility especially with Ayr and Airdrie improving so Dougie had better sign a couple of forwards this month or it could be a unmitigated disaster.



It's very hard for Grady when there's not one solitary winger in the squad and when for weeks on end he's been forced to play a defensive central midfield because of injuries. Your comments about Pantaloons and McFarlane don't wash with me - they are both capable of playing an important role but not simultaneously. Furthermore we HAVE been creating chances -last night could have been so different, and indeed one of your 'planks' was foiled by woodwork! thumbup2.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-05 16:08:53
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 5 2010, 01:47 PM) [snapback]689498[/snapback]
I have other priorities, i can take a few days to reply....

......and now that the matter's been resolved I publicly thank you for restoring my faith! wink.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-05 16:20:26 On the sixth day of Christmas,
Auld Shoogly sent to me,

Six shytes a steamin'


Five lubed rings,



Four scrotum sacks,
Three bent threepennies,
Two curled turds,
And a blue scarf in a green oak tree.
mortonjag 2010-01-05 16:59:22
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 5 2010, 09:54 AM) [snapback]689418[/snapback]
Errr, you can and you did !

The fact that not a whole lot of people posted their thoughts tells me that they weren't interested in the question - there's certainly no censorship at play that's for sure.

As far as I know there has NEVER been any post censored in here - unless Boozie did it - which I doubt.

TonInDublin

Don't be paranoid! laugh.gif

I was alluding to the fact that when Rae, (or the Trust or any faintly establishment matter) comes under discussion on the pubic massage board there never seems to be a shortage of 'debate'.

My (tongue in cheek) point of course is that the Shooglyphile sycophants clearly ain't Jesse Boys for which I am mightily grateful - either that or they're scared to utter a bleat lest they be torn to shreds! bouncy.gif I find that uncanny given that the General forum is also purportedly entirely independent of outside governance yet they post there with the quality and profusion of acute diarrhoea. sleep.gif

In Mortonjag's opinion Douglas Rae is deluded, egomaniacal, and self obsessed, giving not a Donald Duck about the long term well being of OUR club, or about the second best fans in Greenock. Mortonjag sincerely believes that the Toothrotter recently scared off the best chance we've had of inward investment since he was enthroned, and thereafter used his tame poodle Trust Director to orchestrate the dissemination of his 'Tales of the Riverbank' to the gullible toads of Inverclyde.

Perhaps sooner rather than later the truth will out!

We're all going on an SPL holiday laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-05 17:04:46
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 5 2010, 03:30 PM) [snapback]689542[/snapback]
Correct Douglas.

Mine came from Mexico Peter! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-05 17:26:11
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jan 5 2010, 05:04 PM) [snapback]689612[/snapback]
Ernie's Adventures in Blunderland continue.


A loaded question assumes nothing Cawstic - it is merely a manipulative tool like most of Mortonjag's detractors. wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-05 17:28:52
QUOTE(Davy B Ton @ Jan 5 2010, 05:23 PM) [snapback]689629[/snapback]
If your looking for a cheap electric guitar yamaha pacifica's quite good but fender squire guitars come highly recommended. When I first started learning guitar I had a squire (bass) and a mate with a squire strat. Both guitars were absolute crackers for the money we paid for them.

Everones said it before but practising by yourself is the best way to get good on any instrument. Having your guitar in easy reach of your couch is always handy so u can pick it up and strum away if something s*** comes on the telly!

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mortonjag 2010-01-05 17:30:34
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 5 2010, 05:27 PM) [snapback]689633[/snapback]
At my pc while speaking to a Thistle mate on MSN who was watching it also.

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mortonjag 2010-01-05 20:02:37
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 5 2010, 05:36 PM) [snapback]689643[/snapback]
Well what information do you have to sincerely believe this?

Confidential information, dwarf. wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-05 20:06:14 On the eighth day of Christmas,
Auld Shoogly gave to me,
Eight hooers a hooering
seven buggers buggering
six shytes a steamin'

FIVE LUBBED RINGS

Four scrotum sacks,
Three bent threepennies,
Two curled turds,
And a blue scarf in a green oak tree.
mortonjag 2010-01-05 20:08:59
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Jan 5 2010, 07:39 PM) [snapback]689705[/snapback]
BTT!

Enough of mortonjag's same old nonsense taking precedence over good topics.

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife

QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jan 5 2010, 07:50 PM) [snapback]689725[/snapback]
Agreed happy.gif

THOU shalt not covet thy neighbour's husband! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-05 20:15:54
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 5 2010, 07:13 PM) [snapback]689688[/snapback]
FFS, how stupid are some of you? Peter is a very talented player toiling in a fairly poor team. Give him decent service, preferably on the ground, and he'll score loads of goals. The problem is that all we do is hoof the ball up the park and he is left to try to win headers or make what he can of scraps. If you think we can afford to lose our best player you are seriously naive. Who will we replace him with? Some 35 year old has been? Decent strikers are not easy to find and we have one so why not try to keep him and then beef up the rest of the team where there ARE players who are not up to scratch. We should be improving the team, not weakening it. if Peter had had a decent strike partner instead of the utterly mediocre (with occasional flashes of brilliance or luck) Wake, then we would have won last night.

Agreed.

If Spoonsy had a regular and decent supply he'd be one of the Division's top scorers - guaranteed. Why want rid of him when Jimbo and Finners masquerade as wingers, Davie McGregor's not up to the first division, we've arguably got too many midfielders relative to the rest of the squad etc., etc?
mortonjag 2010-01-05 20:19:25
QUOTE(vespaton @ Jan 5 2010, 07:35 PM) [snapback]689703[/snapback]
Not at all....check my history....may only have 200+ posts but have been a fan for many years which is worth more than any amount of posts on here.

Basically you know my standpoint....I wasn't happy at Grady appointment for 2 reasons :

1. not experienced enough....Morton didn't show any ambition
2. Rubbing salt into an ex managers wound....didn't deserve that.

Grady was all talk....i'll get the best out of the players....we can beat anyone on our day...blady blah.

You are now experiencing what I thought all along CHARLETON.

This man is not the solution for MOrton
....don't be surprised at end of season if Moore takes charge....seriously

BP.

Is Rae about to sign big Jackie? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-05 20:22:02 I find it uncanny that Beermonkey and Donkey Dave share the same birthday -what did Sid Waddell do wrong? laugh.gif

OK Happy birthday chaps!
mortonjag 2010-01-05 20:31:20 On the tenth day of Christmas,
Auld Shoogly gave to me,
Ten wahnkers wahnking
Nine poofters hoovering.
Eight hooers a hooering
seven buggers buggering
six shytes a steamin'

FIVE LUBED RINGS

Four scrotum sacks,
Three bent threepennies,
Two curled turds,
And a blue scarf in a green oak tree.
mortonjag 2010-01-05 20:33:08
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 5 2010, 01:11 PM) [snapback]689487[/snapback]
Agreed, a belter! The gaelic tongue adds to it wub.gif

I reckon that if Susan Boyle bared her arse you'd be up her like a rocket! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-05 20:50:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 5 2010, 08:47 PM) [snapback]689763[/snapback]
Ditto back to you for Douglas Rae smile.gif

The old fud might be stony broke but he still has piles up his arse.
mortonjag 2010-01-05 20:51:45
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 5 2010, 08:47 PM) [snapback]689764[/snapback]
Fixed smile.gif

Suit yourself, dwarf.
mortonjag 2010-01-05 21:00:26 For those who can understand graphs I reckon this is interesting.

Improvement just around the corner?
mortonjag 2010-01-05 21:02:31
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 5 2010, 08:59 PM) [snapback]689769[/snapback]
You're cute when rattled smile.gif

I'm cute at all times, dwarf.
mortonjag 2010-01-05 21:04:12
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jan 5 2010, 08:55 PM) [snapback]689768[/snapback]
TBh, im not celebrating properly till thursday (working from 6am tommorow) mad.gif , so come friday or maybe saturday it'll maybe start to sink in that i'm old !! sad.gif

You're only as old as the woman you feel.
mortonjag 2010-01-05 21:06:04
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 5 2010, 09:02 PM) [snapback]689772[/snapback]
Aye poor St Peter. Maybe if bothered a bit more outside the six months before his contract expires and hadn't treated the fans with such contempt on numerous occasions then he may not have got such a hard time. There is no doubting his talent and I think the feeling of being short changed also sticks with some folk.

How often did he reject your advances Dearie? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-05 21:08:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 5 2010, 09:05 PM) [snapback]689779[/snapback]
Understand loud and clear...more what relevance it has to future games I have no clue on.

Unless you are saying the past can be used to predict the future in football, and we know - going by your weekly predictions - that is not the case laugh.gif

'Tis a pity that your understanding of your native language does not match up dwarf. The clue is in the question mark! laugh.gif

mortonjag 2010-01-05 21:10:01
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 5 2010, 09:09 PM) [snapback]689783[/snapback]
Very cute when rattled you are wub.gif

Very cute always Darling! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-05 21:11:26
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 5 2010, 09:06 PM) [snapback]689781[/snapback]
But especially when rattled happy.gif

If you say so, dwarf! laugh.gif

. Never discuss the Jesse Ventura Tobacco Chewing Forum

Re rule 4 above I suggest you delete that daft post on the main forum forthwith.
mortonjag 2010-01-05 21:13:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 5 2010, 09:04 PM) [snapback]689777[/snapback]
If it goes below 16 degrees you have every right under law to go home.

Not if you're homeless, dwarf!
mortonjag 2010-01-05 21:14:31
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jan 5 2010, 09:11 PM) [snapback]689787[/snapback]
Good, i'm only 35 then. biggrin.gif

A year older than Jaggy! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-05 21:16:27
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 5 2010, 09:12 PM) [snapback]689788[/snapback]
Nice of you to admit I have you rattled.

Care to answer the question I put to you re your claims about Douglas in the Jessie forum now? smile.gif

Boozy and TiD will now have your guts for garters ya daft wee plank!
mortonjag 2010-01-05 21:22:10
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 5 2010, 09:18 PM) [snapback]689793[/snapback]
I can also hear you shaking with rage

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mortonjag 2010-01-06 08:06:12
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Jan 5 2010, 11:36 PM) [snapback]689860[/snapback]
But since I got flight ton as a neigbour instead I get the thumbs up. Her bum.

Edit - not flight ton's missus!! laugh.gif
If I leave even an air of ambiguity big Jim will set about me with an 8 iron!!

I heard that Flight and big Jim have denied ever being pouffes. huh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 08:08:29
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Jan 5 2010, 11:13 PM) [snapback]689851[/snapback]
am i the only one whom seems to lay the blame on Dougie R's doorstep. Once again we sack a manager half way through a season leaving the team and fans in limbo as per usual. I personaly think we will go down this season,as the managment at present have done little to convince me that they will still be in charge next season.I for one think that had Dougie stuck with the last lot we would have had more points on the board today.

As for Jim McAlister I think he should be dropped as he is not the player we all make out he is,champions league material hes having a laugh.

Lets put it this way if the current managment keep us up by a single piont or goal,will they merrit a bite at the cherry next season (as the last managment team done)I dont think so, that is my reason for leaving the last team in place because they wouldn'n have done much better but I believe we would have had more points today,even so they should have been bagged then NOT mid way through a season.

The question I ask is
WHEN WILL DOUGIE LEARN

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mortonjag 2010-01-06 08:25:58
QUOTE(monton @ Jan 6 2010, 01:14 AM) [snapback]689878[/snapback]
Grady'S Quote:" WE CAN BEAT ANYBODY ON OUR DAY "

Now he wants to blame his players for his misgivings.
As for players not fit enough, fast enough, surely THIS IS the managers job.
At the end of the day the guy is young inexperienced and needs to learn his trade, but I don't think Morton is the place for him to do that, he is not strong enough to challenge Rae constructively and gain anything from it. He also cannot identify when his team need leadership and support, therefore he would be best suited to being somebody's assistant at a fresh club where he has no history. Good Luck.

Everything you say may or may not be true. I just wish folk would give JG until the end of the season before passing judgement. Of course he's inexperienced - has anybody ever suggested otherwise - but Rae made a big play of having enough money for experience when in fact he's skint. Ultimately it's down to Honest John again - he's spurned AD's money, the stand's rusting away, Riverside ain't ready, the Youth Academy's still but a dream, and we poor Morton fans desperately need something to shout about - more importantly we need something to unite us but we'll NEVER GET THAT till Shoogly's shot the craw, SO - IS the doddery old fud going to splash some cash in the next three weeks, or will it be more unfulfilled promises (some folk describe such as lies)?

I see JG as an intelligent, personable, aware, and ambitious young man - indeed his Pishley origins appear to be his only stumbling block to progress , and I predict that he has a very successful career ahead in football management. Sheep Lips, of course, was, is , and always will be a tosser.
mortonjag 2010-01-06 08:31:15
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jan 6 2010, 07:49 AM) [snapback]689890[/snapback]
Peter has delivered a pretty good return over his time at the club but let's not pretend he's some sort of world beater. He hasn't been particularly well supported for the past few years but his lack of pace (and interest at times) has also limited his effectiveness. I think McCall is right that too many players have been rewarded with long contracts for no good reason and that has introduced a complacency culture to the team. Peter has probably been affected by that as much as any.

The one thing we would miss is his abilty to finish as we haven't had another striker with a genuine eye for goal for years.

Indeed!
You don't know what you've got till it's gone
mortonjag 2010-01-06 08:39:23

QUOTE(capitanus @ Jan 5 2010, 11:57 PM) [snapback]689863[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I have to say, for what would have otherwise been one of NewTon's all too regular threads about something inane that none of us give a toss about, the use of a controversial word served its purpose in igniting the debate that he so craved.

For what its worth, I dont think NewTon is a racist, and even if he were I dont think that would necessarily make him a bad person. Everyone has a prejudice and the ability to discriminate, even those who are quick to point fingers as to assume some kind of moral highground over them. The usual suspects were out on force on this one, with the GreenockGuvnor as the surprise tribute act. laugh.gif

I was merely doing a wee bit of s***-stirring with my initial post on this thread, thats all.

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I'd rather be a racist than a frog
Yes I would, if I could
I surely would! laugh.gif

QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 6 2010, 07:31 AM) [snapback]689885[/snapback]
Gidday Capitanus,

For years I have been asked to save BANDWITH - whatever that is.

And when I take that advice and try to "save" bandwidth by using abbreviations, I am accused of being racist.

There was no one more disappointed this afternoon than I, when Pakistan threw away the second test.

I could call them a bunch of losers but that may be offensive.

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That's ridiculous - losers is the correct word - LOSIES is racist! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 08:41:56
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jan 5 2010, 10:46 PM) [snapback]689834[/snapback]
thank you all for the good wishes, it ain't easy getting older... rolleyes.gif sad.gif laugh.gif

Ask Shoogly for a new pair of shoes! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 08:47:29
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 5 2010, 11:01 PM) [snapback]689841[/snapback]
Was it made by 'Fender' Douglas? The mass produced Korean stuff is arguably better than most except US made. We get our Ernie Ball Sterling range made in Korea at the Cort factory.

Indeed Peter -it's a Tele Mex in a beautiful pea**** blue and I've hardly touched it for ages - in fact I've hardly touched my scabby accoustic for ages either - for me guitar playing seems to go in waves - sometimes I leave it out for months on end and others I can't keep my fingers off the instrument! unsure.gif

PS -if you're in any doubt about the colour I suggest you PM one of the Mods and tell him that ridiculous swear filter's all to ****.
mortonjag 2010-01-06 08:50:12 I once had a lot of trouble trying to cure a young patient's windae pains.
mortonjag 2010-01-06 08:52:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 6 2010, 08:41 AM) [snapback]689905[/snapback]
You can't teach an old dog new tricks.

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...but there is more than one way of skinning a cat! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 08:53:21 I'm still waiting, dwarf - get it deleted.
mortonjag 2010-01-06 09:34:41
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 6 2010, 09:00 AM) [snapback]689916[/snapback]
I got as far as there and stopped as that's how long it took me to realise what you were going to say was probably bulls***, you are not we, we might be playing shellik in the cup soon but even that don't mean you are we. We are Morton, [b]you are a H>U>N,[/b] there are no similarities.

Source? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 09:38:41
QUOTE(gorkir @ Jan 6 2010, 09:13 AM) [snapback]689923[/snapback]
Arthur Scargil was a better striker

Nonsense - he couldn't even put one past that wummin. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 09:42:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 6 2010, 09:01 AM) [snapback]689917[/snapback]
Whence do Losies come ?

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HERE

It was owned by the ancient Tallies. smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 09:48:01
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 6 2010, 09:40 AM) [snapback]689936[/snapback]
You should play more Douglas.

I use a Squier Tele as my second guitar. I got it band new for a price I'd have been an idiot not to go for. Again, it's all in the set-up, a guy I know did it and it plays as good as any US Fender I've played. That said, if I came into some cash I'd buy a US Tele.

So I believe - one of my brothers used to play 'Sessions' down in London, and he was taught how to set up a guitar properly-claims it makes all the difference.

He is an art teacher and enjoys his job but still claims he made twice as much when he used to busk outside the Undergrounds! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 09:54:20
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 6 2010, 09:50 AM) [snapback]689942[/snapback]
If you had been around these boards as long as I have you wouldn't have needed to ask that question. wink.gif

midTONs


Today, 09:48 AM
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mortonjag 2010-01-06 10:06:07
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 6 2010, 09:29 AM) [snapback]689930[/snapback]
Any chance you could both keep all your shenanigan posts in here rather than infest nearly every single thread in every forum.
Cheers in advance

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Indeed Casper - that pesky little dwarf has descended to discussing contents of the Jesse Boys forum on the main board-totally against the rules, but it may get him a few cheap laughs from his fellow brain damaged and noise up the Shooglyphiles when sleeping dogs are better left lying! dry.gif

I've asked him to delete but he's disappeared, just as I'm still waiting for the wee bottler to answer a pm of well over a year ago -something he promised to do!

He's stalking the Jag but it gets tiresome being so fatally attractive ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 10:12:40
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 6 2010, 09:57 AM) [snapback]689948[/snapback]
I was actually contemplating posting the exact same thing you did when I saw you replying to my post, that's how predictable you have come. rolleyes.gif

Constant, honest, trustworthy, steady, reliable, unfaltering and indeed Kojie probably predictable!

By the way, you may be interested in sooking on those productions of the Shooglemeister!
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mortonjag 2010-01-06 10:17:10 There is no chance whatsoever of the game being played this Saturday. They'd be as well making that official ASAP in time to stop the thousands of Ton fans planning to travel from all over the world.
mortonjag 2010-01-06 10:21:32
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 6 2010, 10:15 AM) [snapback]689960[/snapback]
You lot are a bunch of homos.

Homo sapiens
Homo erectus
Homo fuxus
Homo phobia
Homo orphans
Homo plough
Homo genius
mortonjag 2010-01-06 10:58:33
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 6 2010, 10:30 AM) [snapback]689973[/snapback]
McCall is a devious wee barsteward - he makes these remarks to unsettle Peter because he wants to sign him himself. Whilst I would agree that there are a few players that need to be cleared out (I won't embarrass them by naming them but we all have our own opinions), Peter is one of the best we have and the fact that other teams want him (Partick, and most QoS fans would have him back at Palmerston in a flash) should maybe indicate that he is an asset to be kept.

That sounds logical.
mortonjag 2010-01-06 11:01:33
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 6 2010, 10:49 AM) [snapback]689980[/snapback]
Cheers for the heads up Doc

By the way you may be interested in sooking one of these, could put a stop to the persistent whining.

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mortonjag 2010-01-06 11:02:50
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jan 6 2010, 10:54 AM) [snapback]689982[/snapback]
Pitch Inspection at 1230 today!

To officially confirm what's already known.
mortonjag 2010-01-06 11:03:49
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jan 6 2010, 10:59 AM) [snapback]689986[/snapback]
I don't think McCall's being particularly devious, every man and his dog knows he's been interested in Peter for some time and Peter's contract is up in the near future. However if we don't start signing someone who can cross a ball or make a telling pass then Peter will remain largely ineffectual.

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mortonjag 2010-01-06 11:06:16
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 6 2010, 10:26 AM) [snapback]689971[/snapback]
Homo n the range. blink.gif

Where the queers and the Nancy Boys play?
mortonjag 2010-01-06 11:29:31
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jan 6 2010, 11:14 AM) [snapback]689996[/snapback]
dont knock the smoothies,

im with tid on this one, a mach3 does the business, generally much easier after a shot in the steam room to open the pores, looks good, feels great and the ladies love it smile.gif
it must be much more pleasant to kiss and lick rather than getting a mouthful of curlies!

Does the boyfriend shave his erse? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 11:33:07
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 6 2010, 11:09 AM) [snapback]689993[/snapback]
FFs Alibi, how can you unsettle a player who is half hearted in his efforts? He swings the lead when he feels like it and turns it on when he feels like it.
He will go to another club someday and probably have an oustanding season, he's not doing that at Morton, effectively a waste of resource.

Goodbye and goodluck (and yes, I am fully aware he will no doubt come back to haunt us big-time, but his wages could be better utilised paying for a player who give 100% in every game).

He can't be bothered with most of the fans, doesn't like the spotlight on him in Greenock (self inflicted) so with all taken into context it would be best for Morton and Peter if they parted ways.

We will not suddenly crumble in tears and snotters when he departs. Although talk of another years extension to his contract has been doing the rounds, I hope thats way off the mark.

If the guy has such a love in with QOS maybe thats where his heart lies.

Sounds like Big Andy! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 12:16:02
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jan 6 2010, 11:58 AM) [snapback]690021[/snapback]
No.

In that scenario Dougie has to go out and get the experienced Manager we were hoping for when Grady and McManus got the gig.

Some will say that dodging relegation while saving on a Managers salary is mission accomplished, for me that strategy was always too risky.

PS. Good on you for putting some blame towards the Chairman, bout time someone around here had the nads to do that.

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QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jan 6 2010, 12:07 PM) [snapback]690026[/snapback]
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You're kidding, right?

Rae gets plenty of stick on this forum, more than his fair share if you ask me, so your final comment is cmpletely bewildering.

You may be correct. I'm interested to know why you think he gets more than a fair share of stick on this message board.
mortonjag 2010-01-06 12:19:11
QUOTE(Bawhirley Road @ Jan 6 2010, 10:40 AM) [snapback]689978[/snapback]
http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/news/go...wimmer-slammed/
Anyone know who this guy is?

Absolute nutter but cracking story to tell your grandweans

Ach I was just sitting in the hoose and thought I'd nip over tae Gourock to see yer Auntie Mary

And can anyone tell me why this story was not on the front page - that was a story about a wee fella that didnae slip on the ice - exactly.

His mother said that if he had fell he might have banged his heid.

poor wee soul

but well done for no falling


Sounds like the Coastguard are in a huge cream puff because he didn't nearly drown and they didn't get their pictures in the Tilly! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 12:21:55 How could a thousand books adequately cover Scotland's history. It's far too complex. Even the history of the Roman occupation of Scotland has generated hunners of books.
mortonjag 2010-01-06 12:33:41
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 6 2010, 11:49 AM) [snapback]690013[/snapback]
We had a friend at the house over Christmas who had a 'back, sack and crack' wax a while back. Said it was the most painful thing that's ever happened to him. ohmy.gif

Bilateral orchidectomy ain't pleasant, Peter! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 12:35:46
QUOTE(Doddie @ Jan 6 2010, 11:26 AM) [snapback]690002[/snapback]
Aye give my old man a phone at douglas rae glaziers, 01475 723469

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mortonjag 2010-01-06 12:43:43
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 6 2010, 12:38 PM) [snapback]690049[/snapback]
No-one slags Finlayson off for giving 100%, its because he's not good enough.

I thought that when he came to the club and was blasted on this massage board for daring to suggest it. I've tried to give him the benefit of the doubt - he HAS had some excellent matches - but overall his undoubted effort masks a singular lack of ability.
mortonjag 2010-01-06 12:46:18
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 6 2010, 12:32 PM) [snapback]690039[/snapback]
wee Pugg, 1st one banned from the Jesse. laugh.gif

OWE DEER has the dwarf finally been nailed? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 12:50:42
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jan 6 2010, 12:47 PM) [snapback]690055[/snapback]
I completely and totally disagree with that. Of all the lower league teams beating big teams... have you ever seen a wee team playing with gay abandon to upset a big team?

If we want to win our best chance is to keep it tight, frustrate them and perhaps pick up a breakaway or a set piece. At the very least, we could get a draw this way, but cavaliering forward will play right into Celtic's hands.

Obviously however we play, we are reliant on a poor Celtic performance to get a result, but frustrating them is the best way to cause problems.

I hope they do and pouffe you wrong! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 13:19:53
QUOTE(Rampage Nu Sport @ Jan 6 2010, 12:59 PM) [snapback]690068[/snapback]
I don't have any real info on which to base a view either way about Rae. However, with regard to this thread and the one about Grady's performance, I think we need to understand that running the club is essentially a business - any chairman should be judged over a long time period (say five to ten years) and the manager over at least a full season (probably more). All this calling for them to go every five minutes is pretty unrealistic. All I would say is that most modern businesses don't have their chairmen involved in their day to day running - their role is to stand back, take a long term view and challenge the managers about their decisions. Football clubs don't seem to have caught up with modern business practice - most chairmen behave much more like a chief executive, which dilutes the long term strategic vision of the business.

What is your assessment of Mr Rae's performance in that respect?
mortonjag 2010-01-06 13:23:26
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 6 2010, 01:18 PM) [snapback]690079[/snapback]
Hope the guy gets some sort of fine, that is a terrible waste of good resources!

People cannot be fined unless they have broken the law.
mortonjag 2010-01-06 13:50:23
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 6 2010, 11:53 AM) [snapback]690018[/snapback]
Not had the debate for a while. What does everyone think?
Personally I would go to more games. I always go to junior games in May during the week when they are clearing the backlogue.

Thoughts?

The strongest argument against summer football in Scotland is that there would be 'Nothing to do' in the winter. The fitba' keeps us going through those long dark and dreary months. Most folk can find other outlets in the good weather.
mortonjag 2010-01-06 14:00:30 here

She later added: “In my view, the existing schemes are outdated and do little to create a drive for excellence throughout the multi-disciplinary clinical teams we have now and which we would wish to encourage further.â€
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

when she really meant:

'If we can pay those f*ckin' consultants less there will be more to spend elsewhere and maybe things will look better for a wee while'! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 14:03:55
QUOTE(Eldoradoton @ Jan 6 2010, 12:34 PM) [snapback]690042[/snapback]
Article in today's Scotsman

grady

It's in the Sun too and you get the tits as well!
mortonjag 2010-01-06 14:06:06
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 6 2010, 12:37 PM) [snapback]690048[/snapback]
Nice one, we won't getting though as she will be dead. smile.gif

...and Shoogly?

QUOTE(Bawhirley Road @ Jan 6 2010, 02:03 PM) [snapback]690112[/snapback]
A tremendous idea

and a fitting way to honour a wonderful lady who has been a truly outstanding monarch.

I would hope that Inverclyde Council make available suitable funds in order that anybody that wants to organise street parties, with all the red white and blue bunting, can readily do so.

And really excellent that all the major stores - tesco, morrisons, asda, sainsbury - will join in the tribute by keeping their doors firmly closed and allow their staff the time off for their own private reflections and celebrations.

I can hear the sound of the horns on the river already.

The red arrows.

The Coldstream Guards

A British Wimbledon Champion

Jenson Button and Lewis Hamilton battling for the championship.

Olympic Golds in London with tears for the National Anthem

God bless you Ma'am

All we need is the weather

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mortonjag 2010-01-06 14:07:24
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jan 6 2010, 02:05 PM) [snapback]690114[/snapback]
Grady is a tit.

McManus was in the piccy too! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 14:11:22
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Jan 6 2010, 02:09 PM) [snapback]690122[/snapback]
I mentioned that today. I'm sure we can afford it. tongue.gif

We can't even afford to erect a rusting heap of second hand Pishley scrap! mad.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 14:18:19
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Jan 6 2010, 02:11 PM) [snapback]690124[/snapback]
Read the article would ye?

He's not come out and went, 'oh I'm a big tim' has he? They're discussing how that knowledge came out years ago during a game with Rangers.
Now does that not appear that the interviewer has asked a question relating to Grady's team of choice?

If you read the article then you'll find that only 194 of the articles 926 words are exclusively about Grady being a Celtic fan. 336 are spent on discussions regarding a previous incident in a Scottish cup game, where as 441 are spent discussing being the manager or Morton, where he wants the club to go and his views (from the position of manager) regarding the game against Celtic.

This has really annoyed me, because he's hardly came out and said anything about being a Celtic supporter. He's been interviewed about the game by a journalist who thinks that it is a matter of interest what happened years ago. The topic of discussion is mostly centered on Morton, being the manager and our game against Celtic.

Hate agreeing with OF fans, but when you see nonsense like this you understant why they think us wee teams have a chip on our shoulder.


The 'Crazy Cellic Fan' bit is alleged to refer to what Ambrosia or whatever is alleged to have said and Grady simply states that he was 'brought up to support' Cellic -which is hardly surprising for a wee Calf Lick from Pishley, and not really his fault either.
mortonjag 2010-01-06 14:22:38
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 6 2010, 01:59 PM) [snapback]690108[/snapback]
I knew you were still a Morton fan. wink.gif

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Yip - try as one may to convince oneself that there are better things to do with the remainder of one's life, one still clings on to the hope that better days lie ahead.

Once a 'Ton' always a 'Ton'! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 14:35:27
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 6 2010, 02:29 PM) [snapback]690132[/snapback]
Boo hoo, nobody cares how much you pay to the state, rest assured you're a drain on the fabric of society anyway with your drivel.

What a bizarre concept! huh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 14:40:45
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 6 2010, 02:36 PM) [snapback]690136[/snapback]
You may well be right, but I thought that the bench was very poor in terms of quality and providing a different option - there wasn't much to be done with it other than make a straight switch.

McGuffie, for example, could have came in place of Finlayson who had his poorest game for a while and provided an extra goal threat with his ability to make a late run into the box as he has done on a fair few occasions. Possibly, he could have even played in a more advanced central role behind the strikers to try and provide some kind of link-up.

Masterton, too, could have helped provide some kind of bridge between the two, as well as be able to try and keep the ball and provide a goal threat from his shooting and set-pieces.

As for Russell, then he would at least have freshened up a rather predictable and ineffective front line, giving us a different approach. Alternatively, he could have played in a wider role and tried to get into positions to provide the crosses for Wake and Weatherson, something both Finlayson and particularly McAlister failed to do throughout.

Now, I have my own opinions on the merits of those players, but they would have given us something different against Thistle. What was McGregor or Monti actually going to do differently to anyone who was already there? We were hamstrung by the choices of subs before we even got as far as expecting Grady to use them properly.
Anyway. Wake did have a poor game, as he is prone to do now and again, but at the same time whenever he was getting the ball he was forced to look for a pass back the way, often to a defender, because his strike partner showed no interest at all in coming looking for the ball or trying to draw defenders to make space for a midfield run. No doubts that he didn't play well, but I'd rather have that kind of bad performance that at least makes defenders run a wee bit than some guy just standing there hoping the ball will drop square at his feet. It's funny how often the player who is always involved even if they don't play well gets pelters on here, yet the guy who hides in the background doing **** all is made out to be a victim of sorts. Hello, Jim McAlister...

Jimbo has become something of a conundrum at Cappielow. I find it hard to recall the last match in which he was really worth his place yet he is NEVER dropped.


WHY? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 14:43:40
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jan 6 2010, 02:41 PM) [snapback]690139[/snapback]
That he does, but I meant credible people wink.gif

A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest, Cawstic! laugh.gif

Anyway - what is your definition of a 'credible person' on an 'unofficial' fitba' pubic massage board?

Would that perhaps be Stuart Duncan with his 'Shoogly paid for the stand', Donkey Dave with his 'I am privy to all of Morton's financial details', Mabawsa Ritchie with his 'As an ex civil servant I can assure you that...', Stuart Duncan Spot Ton with his regular pro TRUSSHT yappings, or perhaps little Smithston echoing the words of his 'Granddad' Rae?

Maybe a credible person is somebody like Gourock Morton Supporter M idTONs, or TiD who knew more about a Director whose name I've long since forgotten than he knew about himself until asked for proof of their allegations?

Whatever you think Mortonjag is not a credible person -


MORTONJAG IS INCREDIBLE! bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 14:59:59
QUOTE(ANDYRITCHESBOOTS @ Jan 6 2010, 02:47 PM) [snapback]690147[/snapback]
It was Brian Stoddart from Union st.

Not THE Brian Stoddart from Union St? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 15:01:56
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jan 6 2010, 02:41 PM) [snapback]690140[/snapback]
maybe somebody i.e one of the moderators (was it the g..a..y one who gave me the warning ???) can explain why i have been given a warning ?, and WHY DIDNT YOU TELL ME THIS ????... i have seen this wee warning metor which when clicked on says.. homophobia ??? what exactly the **** is homeophobia ???? I said I didnt like gays.... whats the ****ing problem with that ???? so who gave the warning, and can you please explain why my religious views are being held against me ? are you anti catholic ? does that mean you deserve a warning... I want an explanation please.

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What's yer meter reading Warrior -bet you can't beat the Jags! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 15:05:41 Just a thought - is homophobia against the rules? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 15:07:24
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jan 6 2010, 03:05 PM) [snapback]690164[/snapback]
MortonJag,

I know you like to be controversial but there are other faults and flaws of Gordon Brown which you can choose to mock, without focussing on the guys disability.

Yet again, you know that, dont you?

Sorry about that -didn't mean to be offensive. I'm not sure that I can edit but I will try as I always attempt to please!
mortonjag 2010-01-06 15:13:35
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jan 6 2010, 03:08 PM) [snapback]690167[/snapback]
looks like 10% doc.. I dont really care, but it's the priciple that counts here.. I'm being warned about my religous beliefs, and for openly stating what these are !!! ffs pc police on the morton forum, who is cuntstable fairy who wrote the ticket ???

PFFT -mine was recently up to 50% but I got remission.

Don't be too hard on the Mods - their hands are tied behind their backs by red tape and fear of......well to be honest I'm not exactly sure what but let's just call it Shooglyphobia! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 15:18:46
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 6 2010, 03:16 PM) [snapback]690175[/snapback]
It's not against the law or most religions would be outlawed, or is it. rolleyes.gif but then again this feckin board is a law unto its own anyway.

One might be tempted to imagine that the Mods are heterophobic - but then that's OK I guess! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 15:19:59 I once met a nice pouffe.
mortonjag 2010-01-06 15:23:43
QUOTE(Rampage Nu Sport @ Jan 6 2010, 03:15 PM) [snapback]690174[/snapback]
I genuinely have nothing to judge that on, although I think as a generalisation ALL club chairmen are too close to the day-to-day running of their businesses.

I can see this guy's job's in danger! smile.gif
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mortonjag 2010-01-06 15:26:26
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 6 2010, 03:22 PM) [snapback]690184[/snapback]
Was that in Newlands?

Glasgow is soooooooooooooo declasse. ph34r.gif

F*ck off ya auld jobby jabber!
mortonjag 2010-01-06 15:27:20
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 6 2010, 03:26 PM) [snapback]690194[/snapback]
I hope so.

I know -it would take away all the fun otherwise!
mortonjag 2010-01-06 15:29:05
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 6 2010, 03:25 PM) [snapback]690190[/snapback]
You tell him Bryan, start cracking the whip. wink.gif

...Leathers..the lot! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 15:32:54
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Jan 6 2010, 03:25 PM) [snapback]690189[/snapback]
Don't know why folk get so paranoid about rules on the forum. It is just a messageboard, if you can't have a serious discussion without generalising and insulting people then why bother.

...because you like generalising and insulting people?

Oh wait...insulting people's against the rules too ya wee fud!
mortonjag 2010-01-06 15:34:56
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 6 2010, 03:31 PM) [snapback]690202[/snapback]
To be frank, some people post the most offensive, ill-informed, semi-literate pish imaginable on here and then come over like they're Ghandi when it's pointed out to them by the mods.

So the Mods are right into Ghandi, Peter...thanks for that..no more Ghandiphobia from me.
mortonjag 2010-01-06 15:38:20
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jan 6 2010, 03:35 PM) [snapback]690210[/snapback]
We all have the function to edit our own posts. smile.gif

No offence taken, from me at least anyway, however if we are not allowed to mock or even pass less than generous comments about anyone because of their race or ethnicity then its only too fair that we shouldn't mock people for disabilities either. Politicians or not.

The one eyed man is King in the country of the blind! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 15:41:04
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 6 2010, 03:37 PM) [snapback]690211[/snapback]
Nah, Ghandi was an old bugger, you can say what you want about him. Indirectly killed his wife and thought we were wrong to fight fascism.

No chance of an exhumation I'd guess? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 15:49:01
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 6 2010, 03:39 PM) [snapback]690217[/snapback]
My mother is a retired consultant opthalmologist (that's eye surgeon) and she is of the view that these merit payments to consultants are ridiculous, so I think that Sturgeon may be on the right lines here.

My mother is a crabbit old c*nt (that's crabbit old c*nt) and she is of the view that there are none so blind as those who cannot see. smile.gif


The principle is NOT ridiculous though the implementation leaves much to be desired. The same could be said about almost any publicly run body.

This is just typical of that ridiculous young woman's ethos - Rome was not built in a day nor can time honoured pay structures and contracts be ripped to shreds overnight just because the NHS is skint! If she intends to implement it by natural wastage so be it.
mortonjag 2010-01-06 15:54:09


QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 6 2010, 03:42 PM) [snapback]690222[/snapback]
Thank you, Davie. Best laugh I've had this year; nearly spilt my echinacea.

Actually you're maybe only an e away from the proper word - homopathy might be closer to the correct term although the homo part probably isn't the correct word for the prefix. Tom McB, I suspect you may be able to come up with the right term...

Homocopulophobia? unsure.gif


mortonjag 2010-01-06 15:56:57
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 6 2010, 03:54 PM) [snapback]690241[/snapback]
I think my mother's point is that the distribution of the merit payments is a bit random and bears no relation to any measurement of ability or dedication.

Indeed! The wee lassie could go about rectifying that then!
mortonjag 2010-01-06 15:58:12
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Jan 6 2010, 03:55 PM) [snapback]690243[/snapback]
All the mods are gay?

Gay as a sunny day in May! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 16:05:35
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Jan 6 2010, 03:59 PM) [snapback]690251[/snapback]
Being gay is sick and wrong and easily reversed in a hospital?!

What if someone had said the same about a religious sect or certain race? Would that be ok too since it's just their opinion? I don't think it's right in any case. You're allowed to think differently but not when you broadcast it in the manner you did.

Haud on sonny boy - I'm not sure that Warrior said anything of the kind!

Having said that I have known gay men who would happily have opted for heterosexuality if it had been so easy.

Not all pouffes are handbag totin' Nancy boys with a crush on McArthur. Genetics can often be cruel if you're stuck with what you never wanted but I'm quite happy with my lot! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 16:07:00
QUOTE(EBu @ Jan 6 2010, 04:04 PM) [snapback]690254[/snapback]
How's the hunt for the new Mod coming along Bryan? This thread must have folk volunteering left, right and center for the privilege... blink.gif

Fifteen applicants so far and all rejected on the grounds that they were far too sensible! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 16:08:45
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 6 2010, 04:04 PM) [snapback]690255[/snapback]
Get. Over. It. laugh.gif

Welcome back, Andrew...

While the Mods are distracted with that disgusting homophobic Warrior creature, can I just slip in here the fact that Jaggy loves pouffes! blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 16:14:12
QUOTE(EBu @ Jan 6 2010, 04:08 PM) [snapback]690263[/snapback]
Has the Monkey applied yet?

Rejected for bad spelling! rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 6 2010, 04:09 PM) [snapback]690265[/snapback]
15 of your aliases rolleyes.gif

I can put my hand on my heart and say that I have no aliases - well you know that since you pouffey lot took them all away and killed poor wee Mouton - you'll NEVER be forgiven for that.

Mouton was a little lamb
Who wouldn't hurt a flea
He met a homophobic ram
The rest is history
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mortonjag 2010-01-06 16:32:03
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jan 6 2010, 04:15 PM) [snapback]690277[/snapback]
theres a women in my pals work, who was told she had a high level of testosterone in her.. she grew a beard and could bench press 140lbs... 6 months of treatment she couldn't open the lid of a jar of pickled onions....

...and wanted to hump every bird in sight!

QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 6 2010, 04:29 PM) [snapback]690299[/snapback]
Nearly 5 pages of nonsense, all you had to do was PM any of the Mods

...and go away for a two week holiday! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 16:49:48
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 6 2010, 04:33 PM) [snapback]690305[/snapback]
not banned you yet

laugh.gif Not for the want of trying! blush.gif

QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jan 6 2010, 04:37 PM) [snapback]690312[/snapback]
look she went from being the strongest man in the gym on a monday afternoon, with a five o clock shadow that would put george michael to shame, to being a women.. in 6 months.. hows that not proof ????

How do you define a woman - is it enough to have tits, a fud, and fancy Karen Dunbar?
mortonjag 2010-01-06 16:52:11
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jan 6 2010, 04:47 PM) [snapback]690323[/snapback]
who would win..... an army trained sniper.... or a police marksman

personally i dont care, but if I had to.... my money would be on the yardies , if push came to shove.

That's a bit like asking if you've stopped beating the wife! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 17:03:11
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 6 2010, 04:46 PM) [snapback]690320[/snapback]
The only allegation Ive made against you're white knight is that he failed in his role as a director at GMFC and that he has not left without settling his debts that run into thousands of pounds, those allegations have already been founded. If you want to discuss this further Ernie make arrangements either publicly or via PM I'm certainly meet up with you and you can tell me privately why these things are wrong.

You sir have a habit of turning on those who don't play your tune, making up silly wee names for them and going about in a round about way of verbally abusing them and trying to belittle them. The thing is would you sit in my company and bad mouth me? Would you sit in Stuart Duncan's company and bad mouth him? Would you sit in anyones company you have tried to belittle on here and say half the stuff you do?

I looking forward to meeting you at your earliest convenience, who knows I could ask Stuart Duncan (a man I've known and respected for almost 23yrs) if he would like to come along and maybe answer some of the questions you like to ask repeatedly on the board but fail to take in any of the answers when they're not what you wanted to hear or go against what you want to believe.

Take it or leave it my friend, take it or leave it.

I can't help sensing that I may have upset you Kojie!

I'm sure Measles Mr Duncan is more than capable of stating his case without being abetted by his self confessed puppet!



Oh..but wait..Mortonjag's the puppet, AND gullible, AND old, etc.

There's only one of us who's done any turning and it ain't Mortonjag.

It never ceases to amaze me how folk who can't match my intellect on our little pubic massage board inevitably want to discuss matters in person. Will it be OK to bring my Rottweiler and the Polis? wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 17:47:58
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 6 2010, 05:10 PM) [snapback]690357[/snapback]
You bring who you want, If I was going to give you a backhander I wouldn't be asking you publicly to meet up with me now would I?

Are you willing to meet with me and discuss our difference of opinion here?

Just answer the question.

I fail to see what could be said in a meeting that cannot be said on this message board. I also fail to see why differences of opinion should necessitate private meetings. Differences of opinion are what make a message board tick!

It's disturbing to hear critics of the Director whose name I have forgotten claiming that 'they only said this or that etc.' I commend them to trace back their posts if they have genuinely forgotten the bile which spewed out from folk who should have known better, and that purely on the strength of 'whispers'. Eight month old accounts and the Sayings of Shoogly at the AGM are all well and good, but what about the sayings of the Director whose name I've forgotten, or are they against the rules of the game?

All Mortonjag has EVER stated is that from a previously utterly reliable source he learned that somebody other than Shoogly paid for the Midden stand etc. Mortonjag has waited patiently to hear others provide proof of the various allegations. None has been forthcoming.

So, Kojie, MidTONs, Jim, Gourock Morton Supporter, or whatever you want to be called, I bear you no ill will, and I am not attempting to belittle you, though I'm entitled to tease you just as you are this 'Puppet' - you're a good guy and so is Mortonjag and anything that needs to be said between us can be said via this message board.

Oh- and may I refer you to my personal statement?


Do not be surprised or upset by anything I write. I say this seriously on the advice of
my psychiatrist and lawyer.

All are cordially invited to enjoy hospitality in mortonjag's cellar.



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mortonjag 2010-01-06 17:49:54
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jan 6 2010, 05:21 PM) [snapback]690367[/snapback]
In tems of this board, everyone but you tongue.gif
Fixed smile.gif

You're wrong about the spotty dog by the way wink.gif

I'll choose to rely on my own judgement thanks! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 18:10:51
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 6 2010, 05:31 PM) [snapback]690372[/snapback]
laugh.gif The Pews at Mearns Parish chursh are nice and cumfy.
Sirrah, I have neither experienced nor commited the sin of Sodom.
Am I missing anything?
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Actually I only did Latin but the Greek "Homos" does not mean man, it means "the same" whilst "Heteros" mean "different" or "other".

Clearly, though enjoyment cannot be guaranteed.
mortonjag 2010-01-06 18:28:33 unsure.gif

Seems that ageism is not illegal, so get it right up the doddery old c*nts! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 18:31:25
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 6 2010, 06:05 PM) [snapback]690391[/snapback]
Living room... I would have gone but I have a cold. sad.gif

Swine flu? smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 18:42:39
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 6 2010, 06:32 PM) [snapback]690399[/snapback]
Though sore @rses can.

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mortonjag 2010-01-06 18:44:34
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jan 6 2010, 06:38 PM) [snapback]690402[/snapback]
Good shout Ghostie!

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Do Ghosties 'shout'?

I thought they just gave you the Willies! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-06 18:46:45
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jan 6 2010, 06:44 PM) [snapback]690404[/snapback]

He will be fined in due course.
mortonjag 2010-01-06 19:07:54
QUOTE(HamCam @ Jan 6 2010, 06:53 PM) [snapback]690409[/snapback]
Of course he is not.

The only track record not in doubt involving the messageboard mouth that is MJ is that whenever the opportunity arises for a face to face he turns his back. Probably due in London anyway - regardless of the time and date of any meeting.

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Your comments are puzzling. To date Mortonjag has met six separate posters face to face and found them all to be pleasant chaps with whom Mortonjag had civilised conversation about many topics including Morton.

Mortonjag suggests that the only track record not in doubt is that of those goats who jump at any opportunity to discredit Mortonjag.

Inevitably such despicable creatures are less intelligent than they believe and have a thinly disguised agenda! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-07 09:40:12
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 6 2010, 11:36 PM) [snapback]690668[/snapback]
Aye, but I'm like a UN Peacekeeper whereas Bryan and the Rat are the Gestapo. I want to be in the Gestapo. I also wanted to be in Cats but when they found out I had a dog the dream died.

Fcking cats.

Poosy! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-07 09:54:49
QUOTE(HamCam @ Jan 6 2010, 07:19 PM) [snapback]690418[/snapback]
With the amount of hot air you produce you would have been invaluable down at Cappielow this week.

As for discrediting MJ tuck in your plumage and get a life. Aside from a few of your tame acolytes I suspect no-one on this messageboard takes your bitter ramblings seriously. I can only assume being DDFR'd fag at school has left you a broken man looking for revenge for constantly losing at soggy biscuit.


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Out in the sticks shagging goats 'walking' two cats (Angel and Suzie if anybody's interested), and rambling on about 'Eddie's Board'!

Sir, you indeed require to get out and about more! Would you like one of Jaggy's anti-psychotic lollies to sook? wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-07 09:58:49
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jan 4 2010, 10:09 PM) [snapback]689213[/snapback]
If the new Morton Academy are behind this then this is fantastic news

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mortonjag 2010-01-07 09:59:46
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 6 2010, 10:11 PM) [snapback]690594[/snapback]
Don't you worry rattler, I'm still here smile.gif

Well you shouldn't be you little creep. dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-07 10:00:41
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 6 2010, 10:12 PM) [snapback]690595[/snapback]
Rattled smile.gif


puggsy_ton
Yesterday, 09:12 PM
Post #99



Toast on deck!


Group: Fun Patrol
Posts: 16,680
Joined: 25-April 05
From: Parts Unknown
Member No.: 28



QUOTE(mortonjag @ Jan 5 2010, 09:10 PM)
Very cute always Darling!


Nice of you to admit I have you rattled.

Care to answer the question I put to you re your claims about Douglas in the Jessie forum now?


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QUOTE(mortonjag @ Nov 2 2009, 03:07 PM)
I KNOW where he is.
I know why he's there.
I'd like Shoogly to tell the world!

QUOTE(Bryan @ Nov 2 2009, 03:07 PM)
Where then


MORTONJAG PLEASE ANSWER!!!!


DELETE THAT POST YOU IRRESPONSIBLE LITTLE CRAP BAG! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-07 10:05:17
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Nov 15 2009, 08:33 PM) [snapback]669152[/snapback]
I have had the good fortune to realise my childhood ambitions through my career path, i used to watch the large cranes at the shipyards in awe and set out my career path to that end. I had the added bonus of doing and seeing a lot of exciting stuff in the army i.e. working with bomb disposal in N.I. for 3 years unsure.gif After my time in the army i got my crane career up and running and soon worked my way up to operating the largest mobile crane in the UK, since then got myself experienced on other types of crane i.e. dockside container cranes. I became the youngest certified supervisor in Scotland a few years ago, i have now went back to operating again and its good to get up in the morning knowing your going to get to play with a big boys toy all day. Work to me is something that you need to enjoy and have a good interest in to get the best out of it.

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Funny - I was talking to a real crane driver and when I told him some of the stuff you come out with he split his sides laughing. Said the nearest thing you've got to a big hooker was begging at Blythswood Square! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-07 10:08:07
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Jan 6 2010, 07:34 PM) [snapback]690427[/snapback]
Yes, but if the person you are refering to is a board member then your comment could be seen as user harrassment.

Very true, but i find it bizarre that folk at 'work' are protected specifically (which I think is a reprehensible indictment of modern society) while the young and the elderly are excluded from such dedicated protection!
mortonjag 2010-01-07 10:09:35 Politicians and respect!
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mortonjag 2010-01-07 10:12:06
QUOTE(HamCam @ Jan 7 2010, 12:35 AM) [snapback]690731[/snapback]
As a veggie I do prefer vegemite.

Christ - it gets worse - lives in the sticks, shags goats, walks cats (Angel and Suzie if you're interested) and is a 'veggie'.

When will this Jehovah's Witness fully expose himself?
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mortonjag 2010-01-07 10:14:18 Of the many professions represented on this pubic massage board, that legal seems poorly represented, though I'm sure Edd should have his papers by now.
mortonjag 2010-01-07 10:17:04
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 6 2010, 08:34 PM) [snapback]690484[/snapback]
And ironically, it's the catholic priest who enjoy young boys.

How refreshing to hear a choir boy speak from personal experience.
mortonjag 2010-01-07 10:29:00
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jan 7 2010, 10:21 AM) [snapback]690813[/snapback]
Nah, Furter would definitely be in my top five.

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And this one wants to shag the goat humper's poosies!


Frank pus.
mortonjag 2010-01-07 10:37:04
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 7 2010, 10:25 AM) [snapback]690818[/snapback]
This is nothing like as bad as 62-63, and IMHO is no worse than most winters in the late 50s to mid 60s, and several winters since then (81/82 in particular). The difference now is not due to central heating, it's the OTT news coverage and media-generated hysteria. Most schools are closed - I don't recall ever getting a snow day off at the Academy. There was even a special programme last night about the weather FFS. Talk about making a drama out of a crisis. Most countries just get on with it and put on an extra layer of clothing. It was reported that there was 44% absenteeism yesterday - FFS, who pays for that?

Think of this as a good opportunity to practice handbrake turns...

Correct Alibi. Any of our older posters will remember snow lying sometimes well over a foot deep for weeks on end. In those days of course there was not the plethora of drivers (particularly young, upwardly mobile and female) of those days who haven't a clue about 'slidey' roads. I well remember cars with chain endowed tyres slowly making their way up the hill outside our house in Kilmacolm.

Another thing about them good old days - things did NOT grind to a standstill - schools stayed open and folk continued at their work.

We've 'never had it so good', yet I long for our values of yesteryear.
mortonjag 2010-01-07 10:39:51
QUOTE(Lost in Space @ Jan 7 2010, 10:34 AM) [snapback]690831[/snapback]
Cowshed Warrior, you are without doubt a complete bottom feeder. This in no way implies that that you enjoy the practice of rimming, digging or even salad tossing, but have rather exposed yourself as nothing better than bigoted scum. Not only that, you've connected those views to your religion, which makes you even more of a to**er. Most religions strive to be tolerant, yet struggle with the realities of life being in conflict with scripture. Only the extemists in any religious organisation would actively hold views similar to yours.

Exactly what is it about the activities of homosexuals which directly impact your life so intrinsicly that makes you hate them so much. Are they making your life such a misery that you feel you have to spout your bile on the subject? Are you being touched up by a preist? Have you been harrassed on the streets of Greenock by the towns burgeoning Gay and Lesbian Community? Can you not go to a pub or nightclub now because of all the Gay activities going on in the toilets?

Seriously Mate, crawl back under your rock and have a think about the real problems impacting your life. Look to your religion as a vehicle for finding the best in people. Look at the injustice of the people going out to work daily for a pittance while the scum of society are sitting on their fat ar*es on benefits not even attempting to find work while enjoying X Factor on their 50 inch plasma screens. Stuff like that, it's all around you, it's important, and your energies could be better channeled in other areas.


Signed Soapy Soutar! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-07 10:59:51
QUOTE(Doddie @ Jan 6 2010, 09:42 PM) [snapback]690557[/snapback]
was previous owner,not that one

Just a very unfortunate coincidence! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-07 11:02:28
QUOTE(axeman @ Jan 6 2010, 09:02 PM) [snapback]690510[/snapback]
Put a decent player in front of him instead of KFC & we'll see the best of him.

Precisely -he spoonfed Superkev at Palmerston and made him look quite good. With a decent right winger that combination would surely start to get telling balls into the box.
mortonjag 2010-01-07 11:05:37 Does anybody else gain immense satisfaction from doing a big jobby? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-07 11:12:40
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 7 2010, 11:09 AM) [snapback]690852[/snapback]
Much like my love making skills.

Do not confuse shagging with love making darling! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-07 11:21:36
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jan 7 2010, 11:16 AM) [snapback]690855[/snapback]
Well, a quick example is that my girlfriend may be going paintballing this weekend. Now, to me, that's just playing war, and is completely unacceptable to me. You should never point any form of gun at another person, whether it be contaning paint or a bullet, and I told her that I would be quite upset if she went to do it.

Apparently I was being ridiculous though rolleyes.gif

What about a tadpole shooter? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-07 11:23:19
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 7 2010, 11:22 AM) [snapback]690858[/snapback]
Not at all ridiculous, I completely respect that opinion.
Opinions and beliefs are fluid, unless you're an old Marxist like Edwards laugh.gif . My point above about 'the kill' would have been anathema to me only 3 or 4 years ago as I was a strict vegetarian for 20 years and vegan for a while.

Kinda f*cks up the leather brogues, Peter! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-08 09:18:36
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 8 2010, 07:20 AM) [snapback]691351[/snapback]
And you under rule 6 wink.gif

YOU ARE BANG OUT OF ORDER DWARF---NEVER DISCUSS THE JESSE FORUM---YOU'VE BEEN TELT BY BOOZIE AND TID---YOU'RE TRYING TO CAUSE TROUBLE BY POSTING ABOUT THIS FORUM ON THE MAIN BOARD---WILL THOSE TWO NOTICE?

Why was the Jesse Boys' forum created in the first place? thumbdown.gif dry.gif mad.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-08 11:09:55
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 7 2010, 02:14 PM) [snapback]690964[/snapback]
Have to confess lads that the job of a mod in here is not as easy it comes across. You can't please all the people all of the time.

I know we tend to forget (well certainly a lot of us old timers from years ago, and me !) but this board is read by kids, and also a lot of the stuff that gets posted can be taken out of context - we had examples where a debate on here ended up in the Tele !!!!! In addition, on a public message board there still has to be at least some level of acceptability (for example recent jokes/jibes about child abuse or the recent Gary Glitter stuff).

The thread in question was fairly harmless in my opinion BUT some of the name calling was getting a bit out of hand and bordering on what could be considered personal abuse.

The mods have removed it and will decide to either reinstate it, edit it or most probably delete it.

For anyone who wants a more free reign on what can and can't be said or discussed, the Jesse was invented following a not too dissimilar thread if I remember - join up there and you can pretty much talk about anything - and sadly we do !

For anyone who thinks they can do a better job - there is an open request for volunteers to be mods - fill yer boots !

TonInDublin

You clearly don't!!!

The Jesse Boys can have good fun at times mind you! laugh.gif

QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 7 2010, 02:33 PM) [snapback]690983[/snapback]
You need to be over 18, and you need to shoot a PM to myself or Boozehound.
We then do the needful with getting you access.

But trust me, it's not what it was designed to be, although it does have its moments.

Oh, and there's nae cliping on the main board as to what goes on in the Jesse.

Here are the rules for anyone considering signing up ..... taken straight from the site before you join.
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mortonjag 2010-01-08 11:22:41
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 7 2010, 01:08 PM) [snapback]690911[/snapback]
Not up to you to decide Rattler.

More's the pity, slow worm.
mortonjag 2010-01-08 11:29:41
QUOTE(HamCam @ Jan 7 2010, 03:53 PM) [snapback]691031[/snapback]
For your information I prefer to tend rather than shag goats regardless as to which foot they kick with.

As for the lollies what flavours do they come in and any bogof deals ?

Don't blame me if your nursing propensity exceeds your sex drive Capric! biggrin.gif

The lollies can be had on prescription. For more details log on to jagcellar.org. wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-08 11:32:20
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 7 2010, 09:03 PM) [snapback]691219[/snapback]
Posters
Mortonjag laugh.gif
Morton Fans ph34r.gif

Shoogly
Stuart Duncan SpotTon
Bryan with his Polis hat on! ph34r.gif
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mortonjag 2010-01-08 11:34:01
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 8 2010, 11:16 AM) [snapback]691404[/snapback]
I'd have phoned the club rather than worrying then posting on the board wink.gif

Can you use a 'phone dwarf - the world is full of surprises! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-08 12:05:02 Dead rich.
mortonjag 2010-01-08 12:10:09
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jan 7 2010, 08:11 PM) [snapback]691164[/snapback]
Peter is one of the poorest paid players at Cappielow, hence the reason he wants to leave. If he can better money elsewhere then the Club has only itself to blame for he WILL come back to haunt us. mad.gif

Is that right Smiffy - did Grandpa' tell you that? rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jan 7 2010, 08:13 PM) [snapback]691166[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2010-01-08 12:13:30 Put Finners on McGeady and tell him to break legs - it'll be well worth the sending off! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-08 12:15:11 Apparently not - well folks log on to jagcellar.org for a fine range of aperients! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-08 12:20:01 I'm normally quite public spirited but those days you're always having to watch your back. No longer can off duty doctors stop to help at road accidents for example.

I really, really want to clear some snow, but I'm terrified I get sued because some sad c*nt gets migraines at the sound of scraping. mad.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-08 12:22:50 Unfortunately 'No'.
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mortonjag 2010-01-08 12:44:22
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jan 8 2010, 12:25 PM) [snapback]691428[/snapback]
That link appears to be broken! happy.gif

Feeding the fish is indeed one of life's little pleasures, to this end I can heartily recommend psyllium husk! It works in a very natural way and gives extremely satisfying results with the unexpected bonus of producing excellent floaters! Keen anglers can watch the saithe rise to the top whilst waiting for a nibble themselves....

Waving goodbye to ones old friends as they leave for the seaside - cannae beat it! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-08 12:46:30
QUOTE(Rampage Nu Sport @ Jan 8 2010, 12:43 PM) [snapback]691438[/snapback]
I can understand your frustration but frankly I think your comment's a bit naive. Many of us "go through the motions" in our jobs from time-to-time and good man managers appreciate this and know when to encourage their staff. I see no reason why professional footballers should be any different.

Weatherson's far from my favourite player in the squad, but I think he could well be an inspirational force on the field and we need to harness that characteristic. And if its a way of keeping one of our best players - why not?

A sewage worker at last - to everybody else it's keech, but it's your bread and butter? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-08 12:52:09 Arse, ****, fanny, fud, wh*re, pish, ****, Tim, Thatcher, w*nker, ****er, ****, poofs, pouffe,

Better than nothing I suppose though why are two poofs better than one ****, and why can you have a Tim but not a ****, and why does a three letter word which starts with 'H' and ends with 'n', get four asterisks? smile.gif

Is it because the Mods are a pair of poofs? smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-08 13:03:06
QUOTE(Cb_1874 @ Jan 7 2010, 07:04 PM) [snapback]691134[/snapback]
We need a striker who knows how to put the ball in the back of the net ive said for years i would like to see............
Peter McDonald from St Johnstone

Thoughts ??

We have strikers who know how to put the ball in the back of the net.

We need players who can supply those strikers who know how to put the ball in the back of the net. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-08 13:04:29 Shoogly always overvalues his assets.

END OF! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-08 13:10:14
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 8 2010, 01:07 PM) [snapback]691452[/snapback]
That isn't an assist in a goal in my book. I wouldn't be in ahurry to get rid but I wouldn't be in ahurry to try and get him on a two year stint either. I certainly do not think he has vastly improved over the years and at best has played consistently ok but to say he has been involved in 40 assists a season is laughable.

With one decent winger his goal tally would double.

With two decent wingers his goal tally would treble.

With the above and a creative midfielder his goal tally would quadruple.

Slightly exaggerated for effect! blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-08 13:44:57
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 8 2010, 01:14 PM) [snapback]691454[/snapback]
Correcto. Anybody in their right mind would not have budgeted for crowds of 4500. Crazy in the coconuts accounting. But hey! we are lucky he saved us from Hugh Scott zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Indeed - there is truly no comparison between this
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and this
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mortonjag 2010-01-08 13:47:51
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 8 2010, 01:42 PM) [snapback]691474[/snapback]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8447007.stm

Seems the English are agreeing with the SNP on this that it would be good. Wonder how the Westminste mob's Scottish counterparts will deal with this

They will now see sense and reverse their view! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-08 13:49:33
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 8 2010, 01:14 PM) [snapback]691456[/snapback]
You just like to see Bryan issue naughty boy points laugh.gif

If there were two Bryans they'd both be wee poofs and anyway he can't touch me here, hee hee! bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-08 13:50:55
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 8 2010, 01:22 PM) [snapback]691465[/snapback]
Rattler, calm yourself. It's not healthy smile.gif

You stick to your calculator and I'll do the health stuff.

Now slither off! mad.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-08 17:53:54
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 8 2010, 02:04 PM) [snapback]691499[/snapback]
Dawrves do not slither.

Rattlers on the other hand...

Though some can spell!

Oh wait - it's not called a spelling mistake any more - it's conveniently called a 'typo' just as an outstanding intellectual genius of whom everyone is insanely jealous may conveniently be called a 'rattler'!

A chubby wee chappie called Stephen
Will break any rule to get even
From a 'Uni' (HEE HEE)
He 'obtained' a degree
Well that's what he thinks we're believin' rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-08 18:06:23
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 8 2010, 02:11 PM) [snapback]691503[/snapback]
**** ph34r.gif

I once knew how to do that until the bent snapper Tentontits forbade me, and now I've forgotten. mad.gif

Anyway I'm in ode mode

My knob's in a throb for a screw
So bend over Master Purdue
And for years ye'll be braggin'
Of Mortonjag's shaggin'
I'm tryin' to make 'Warrior' spew! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-08 18:11:24
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Jan 8 2010, 05:39 PM) [snapback]691609[/snapback]
You two have your own room for this pish, now feck off into it. Thanks.

We're back out 'Paeds' and he's learned to spell 'Cat' though it took great patience on Jaggy's part! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-08 18:26:05
SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A STRIKER!
mortonjag 2010-01-08 18:28:29
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 8 2010, 02:05 PM) [snapback]691500[/snapback]
Simple...he was shagging a pipe.

..with a Bucky bottle rammed up his arse I presume?
mortonjag 2010-01-08 18:44:18
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 8 2010, 02:26 PM) [snapback]691505[/snapback]

Once someone becomes addicted then I agree that pricing is not really an issue for them, they'll buy it whatever the cost, but low price is almost certainly the cause for more people falling into alcohol abuse in the first place.

How long does it take to 'become addicted'?

What happens when pushers up the price of Smack, Crack or whatever?

Would introduction of a 25% gambling tax reduce problem gambling?

Our 'binge drinking culture' is largely caused by the media and peer pressure - NOT by cheaper alcohol - indeed I question the validity of the term.

For those who can learn, education is vital.

For those unable to abstain - it's a bloody minefield despite all claims about successful rehabilitation.
mortonjag 2010-01-08 18:46:34 Oh dear, I thought this was a recommendation for some beach Bistro.
mortonjag 2010-01-08 18:47:58
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 8 2010, 06:32 PM) [snapback]691652[/snapback]
What's your point caller?

poster
mortonjag 2010-01-08 18:50:48
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 8 2010, 06:47 PM) [snapback]691671[/snapback]
Where have I said ignore the problem? My usual analogy for this is solving the problem of men leaching at women by having all women in burkas, bish bosh, job done.
My solution to the alcohol problem actually requires a bit of effort and some personal responsibility, dirty words for lefties these days although it wasn't always that way.

And works for what percentage of alkies Peter? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-08 18:56:02
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 8 2010, 06:54 PM) [snapback]691678[/snapback]
Well, there's the classic one. I used to drink like a **** as did you probably and maybe even Stalin Edwards. Ask anyone who knew me when I was a young man. Guess what? I grew up. As will almost all of these kids drinking in parks.

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Peter, you're either being very clever or utterly naive! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-08 19:09:07
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 8 2010, 06:55 PM) [snapback]691679[/snapback]
Oh I'm sorry Douglas. I only speak to my close relative who runs AA groups in Glasgow about these things. I have no idea what I'm on about.

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Obviously!!!!!

So you believe the Minnesota model is the be all and end all.

How long has your close relative been 'taking personal responsibility', and what is the social environment in which he/she's been able to do so?

Does your close relative have statistics to prove how successful those morbid wee cliques REALLY are?

Does ANYBODY have accurate statistics on the success of rehabilitation - whatever its nature?
mortonjag 2010-01-08 19:12:31
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jan 8 2010, 07:10 PM) [snapback]691696[/snapback]
Shimmin was by far the classiest player on the park on Monday night, and if he plays for the rest of the season will look like that in each game... even against Celtic.

No plans for a haircut then?
mortonjag 2010-01-08 19:15:34
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 8 2010, 07:11 PM) [snapback]691697[/snapback]
I thought you had at least a modicum of intelligence. If you took care to read the key points of the Rowntree Report, you'd note that Northern Ireland is cited as a region of increased consumption year-on-year. Every other region shows decreased consumption. Your "the minority are growing" myth is completely redundant. The facts at hand show this not to be the case.

If God made man in his own image your startling lack of comprehension of these facts is the most damning attack upon religion I've yet to see.

Excellent SPARROT, and if you made that up yourself you're coming on like a house on fire! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-08 19:19:09
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 8 2010, 07:16 PM) [snapback]691705[/snapback]
If you'd bothered to read my earlier posts I've said I'm not a fan of AA Douglas.
So, before anyone else has a nag at me I suggest reading what I've written first. One of my closet friends is quite high up in the voluntary sector in drug and alcohol counselling. He tells me there are relatively few injecting heroin users in Glasgow. People think there are thousands, there isn't. He also tells me that alcohol is a massive, massive problem. He also thinks the pricing idea is complete bollocks. As do I. I do think there is a problem with alcohol in Scotland. I think this solution is stupid. There. That should be clear enough. Gin and tonic time.

What's yer pouffey pal's poison Peter? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-08 19:30:13
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ Jan 8 2010, 07:27 PM) [snapback]691709[/snapback]
Take everything they say with a pinch of Salt.....if you can find any!!!

JB.

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mortonjag 2010-01-08 19:32:43
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ Jan 8 2010, 07:31 PM) [snapback]691712[/snapback]
Long Range Forecast.

mortonjag 2010-01-08 19:44:36
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 8 2010, 07:35 PM) [snapback]691715[/snapback]
A proper Freudian slip there Douglas, well spotted. laugh.gif

....see all this stuff about personal responsibility Peter...it's very confusing...for example some folk believe that masturbation is wicked and self harming while others think that it's perfectly normal if not beneficial, and Mortonjag knows that wanking's not good for everybody.

Should pathological wankers be told to exercise personal responsibility - for that matter do you have any relatives in Chuggers Anonymous? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-08 19:51:30
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Jan 8 2010, 07:48 PM) [snapback]691729[/snapback]
It's Wankanon

Do you attend the Union Street branch?
mortonjag 2010-01-08 19:53:59
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 8 2010, 07:49 PM) [snapback]691731[/snapback]
Scottish Assembly ??? You're still living in 1979 fek me laugh.gif

What about that good old fashioned concept of telling poitential voters what you stand for and what your policies are. Not trying to scaremonger them into voting for you.

If England votes Tory it won't matter a fek what way Scotland votes, we will get a Tory government.

It was always a myth Spurtle! blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-08 19:56:28
QUOTE(Flyerton @ Jan 8 2010, 07:52 PM) [snapback]691733[/snapback]
Friday night at 19:00 -11c in fog at Bishopton.

I'll be in London I'm afraid.
mortonjag 2010-01-08 20:04:53
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 8 2010, 07:56 PM) [snapback]691740[/snapback]
Hardly personal for this board's standards.

Your stats are relevant to combatting underage drinking, but the Governemnt alreadty has wide-ranging powers to prosecute licensees who sell drink to underagers, as well as those who consume. Between education and the upholdance of exisiting laws, uinderage drinking is not a problem that requires price control.
What is clear, however, is that within certain groups of young people there is a slight, but noted, decrease in drinking regularity and consumption. Education is working, the effects are gradual.
The increasing problem groups are young women and the middle aged, the bottle of wine with their evening meal class. There's no indication that these people are using the sort of high-alcohol low price products that would be most affected.

You are very well read my boy and I commend your diligence.

In your opinion is there a difference between extremely heavy drinking and alcoholism - indeed have you a definition of alcoholism?

I have a sneaking suspicion that a high percentage of well respected and apparently socially functional people are secretly toiling with alcohol addiction - indeed many will go to their (not necessarily early) graves without ever having been branded as 'alkies' or problem drinkers.

This drinking business is quite complicated if you ask me.
mortonjag 2010-01-08 20:07:39
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 8 2010, 08:05 PM) [snapback]691746[/snapback]
This is a bit off topic (but same area.. rolleyes.gif )

There has been a lot of "Gay" talk on the forum recently and it got me thinking about the actual sexual acts of homosexual men.

I can understand the sexual gratification gay men can get from masterbation and blow jobs. But having another guy throw his **** up yer arse is something else.
Maybe if I'm pushed on it, you can sort of understand the "giver" but the "receiver"... unsure.gif

You can be pushed on mine any time darling!

Don't knock it till you've tried it! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-08 20:09:48
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 8 2010, 08:07 PM) [snapback]691751[/snapback]
Not necessarily more, just differently.

Average alcohol consumption in France for example is probably as high as the UK, but they tend to drink moderately every day - almost all French has a glass or two of wine with every meal - whereas we tend to abstain during the week and binge at the weekends.

In all the time I lived in France I can't honestly recall ever seeing someone drunk in the street, but wine was drunk with every meal even in the work canteen.

I spent hogmanay in a bar in Spain filled with all nationalities, and the only ones getting deliberately bladdered were those from the UK, Ireland and Scandinavia.

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Too pished to go outside? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-09 09:57:36 Weatherson - fit and motivated -that's the manager's job - is as good a striker as we require IF he's allowed to be a striker and gets a decent supply. How long is it since he had the luxury of only having to think about getting the ball in the net? Very, very sorry we've lost VZ as we desperately need creativity.
mortonjag 2010-01-09 10:01:00
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jan 9 2010, 08:59 AM) [snapback]691922[/snapback]
Really? I'd go the exact opposite. laugh.gif

You'd have Casino before Walker at LEFT BACK? unsure.gif

What did Walker do that was so wrong at left back? Monti lacks physique and pulls out of tackles though he can be creative going forward (as can wee Alex).
mortonjag 2010-01-09 10:03:02
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Jan 8 2010, 10:29 PM) [snapback]691803[/snapback]
Awww that's lovely, you've given me a nickname.

Incidentally, is it you that empties his bag (colostomy not tenner) in the stand bogs?

I wasn't aware that the dwarf has a colostomy-no evidence when he was last in the cellar.
mortonjag 2010-01-09 10:06:56
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Jan 8 2010, 10:50 PM) [snapback]691812[/snapback]
Puggsy and Jag went a fighting,
All the wrongs at the 'Ton, they'd be righting.
But lo and behold,
If they do what they're told.
This thread is to put all their shyte in.

Oh dear 'Paeds' yer at the kiddin'
Puggsy sortin' Shoogly's muck
Nah -he'd rather watch the Middin
Ton? He doesn't give a f*ck.
mortonjag 2010-01-09 10:08:43
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 9 2010, 07:56 AM) [snapback]691916[/snapback]
If a bunch of hoofters ever tried to gang rape me there would be a brown headed hard hat making an appearance in the doorway.

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mortonjag 2010-01-09 10:28:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 9 2010, 01:14 AM) [snapback]691876[/snapback]
Wot a bottler of an idea.

Let's start a black market in weekly allowances.

We could buy them from Scottish Muslims, teetotallers and little old ladies and then rent them out on a weekly basis.

We'll make so much we'll be able to buy the Ton in a matter of months.

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We already do in huge quantities and on every street corner! unsure.gif


QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 9 2010, 08:28 AM) [snapback]691918[/snapback]
Ok, here's a challenge for you. Go back over this and find where I've said anything like that. I think you'll find I spoke about harder options than lazily chucking a couple of bob on a bottle of cider. Oh and all of mine were suggestions that involved society, funny that. But hey ho, come on with an agenda and try and get the counter arguments to fit that by all means

I tried to spell it out to Douglas earlier, so find that post and read it I can't be bothered looking for it.

On a slightly different note, it really amuses that 'personal responsibility' are words that offend lefties so much. That and the fact that it's always 'others', usually working class people, who need to change their behaviour but never them.


Peter, I recall you saying that you disagree with minimum pricing, and ain't all that keen on AA. I'm with you on those matters though AA works very well for some and is the EMBODIMENT of personal responsibility.

We need education - undoubtedly - if we're to make excessive and irresponsible drinking less socially acceptable, but what about the problem drinkers for whom the problem is personal rather than social -those who are powerless to control their craving and whose lives have become unmanageable because of it. Telling them to take 'personal responsibility' is like telling a greyhound to stop chasing hares.

Addictive behaviour may be multifactorial, but the 'addictive personality' ain't going to be cured by prices, social changes, or lectures! Prevention is better than cure but prevention takes time and planning and politicians are only ever interested in the current term of office. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-09 10:31:56 If you know where and when to go and if you are a competent DIYer you can produce a nice result for a lot less than £300.
mortonjag 2010-01-09 10:37:51
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 9 2010, 10:24 AM) [snapback]691970[/snapback]
Says a lot for our standing in the game that Hamilton are a big club in comparison to us. sad.gif

How did they get where trhey are today I wonder, where did we go wrong. wink.gif



QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jan 9 2010, 10:30 AM) [snapback]691977[/snapback]
Walker's ok defensively but I'm sick to the back teeth of having players playing on their wrong side and fitting square pegs in round holes. Walker's can't seem to make a single position his own which is why he should be shown the door. If he has to play in defence at all it'd be if we were playing three at the back.

If we've no one better I'd have Monti at left mid. He's relatively composed and has a decent range of passing, unlike a certain Mr McAlister.

Hardly his fault if you ask me - another player whose career has faltered badly under JM and Sheep Lips, and aye maybe a move would give the boy a chance to show his undoubted talent. Regarding your 'playing on the wrong side' you're correct in principle - just wrong about Casino being a better left back than Alex!
mortonjag 2010-01-09 10:42:30
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 9 2010, 10:31 AM) [snapback]691979[/snapback]
Bollocks doc. He has swung the lead every single season he has been with us. Its got **** all to do with the managers who have been in charge, its his own attitude to his job. Clubs should be falling over themselves to sign him, and they would be if they seen him turn it on week in week out as we all know he is capable of.

Disagree Barbie - players are human beings, not automatons (exclude Superkev) and it IS up to a Manager to get the best of them. If it can't be done, by all means let them go elsewhere. Spoonsy gets a hard time on here, just as Boyd did with H*ns fans for long and weary. Start supplying him properly and he'll be knocking them in for fun! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-09 10:44:33
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jan 9 2010, 10:40 AM) [snapback]691988[/snapback]
Shame you didn't ask a bit earlier: St Mirren were selling off their old Love Street toilets a few months back. You could've got a good price.
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Maybe you could even have got a kind relative to buy them for you. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-09 10:45:20
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 9 2010, 10:42 AM) [snapback]691993[/snapback]
I still love the snow! Going out a big walk in it today biggrin.gif

Don't forget the stilts.
mortonjag 2010-01-09 10:50:54
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 9 2010, 07:54 AM) [snapback]691915[/snapback]
Mr Farrell should let us all have a kickabout on the pitch today, we can't damage it after all and there is fesh snow landed.

Mr Rae is the boss - no doubt he'll have heard about this thread already and an announcement will soon appear on GMFC.net.

Make your own snowman, throw your own snowballs, and pull your own sledge. Cappielow open all weekend.


Admission: Adults £5
Children £2
OAP's/concessions and Cellic fans £3 ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-09 10:52:23
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 9 2010, 10:45 AM) [snapback]691998[/snapback]
You have to be motivated when you leave for work.
Certainly no lack of motivation when it comes to gambling and drinking mind.

Not if there's somebody at work capable of motivating you!
mortonjag 2010-01-09 10:53:21
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 9 2010, 10:50 AM) [snapback]692007[/snapback]
I would have thought wellies would be better. wink.gif

He wouldn't see oot!
mortonjag 2010-01-09 11:01:40 I've still got enough hair to require trimming once in a while but in no way am I going to pay six or seven quid to listen to a pair of ageing queers raving on about Canada. Nope - my BURD just gives me a nice wee number two! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-09 11:06:37
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 9 2010, 09:09 AM) [snapback]691926[/snapback]
Losing McGuffie to QoS is a double bonus - we get rid of him and they get a dud so watch them slide down the league. Worst Morton midfielder since Andy Millen.



QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 9 2010, 09:22 AM) [snapback]691933[/snapback]
I think he's right up there. Totally ineffective, hides and every pass is backwards. He spends most of his time in and around the centre circle watching the game pass him by.

Like your bloody eyes Ratarse! It's always black or white with players for some posters. McGuffie has faults but in some games he's produced more in ten minutes that Jimbo and Superkev put together for the whole ninety!
mortonjag 2010-01-09 11:08:35 ZED
mortonjag 2010-01-09 11:28:09
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 9 2010, 11:19 AM) [snapback]692023[/snapback]
I don't read every thread on this board - so I can honestly say I have no idea what you're talking about Ernie.

Use the report function if you think somebody's broke the rules - the alternative is I trawl every thread trying to find out what post offended you - and I just have too little life left to live to force that on myself.

Or the two of you can just keep annoying each other in this Dwarf v Rattler thingy you have going - which is clearly an attempt to hide a lot of pent up sexual frustrations - why not just plug each other and get it over and done with.

TonInDublin

puggsy_ton
Yesterday, 09:12 PM
Post #99

QUOTE(mortonjag @ Jan 5 2010, 09:10 PM)
Very cute always Darling!


Nice of you to admit I have you rattled.

Care to answer the question I put to you re your claims about Douglas in the Jessie forum now?


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QUOTE(mortonjag @ Nov 2 2009, 03:07 PM)
I KNOW where he is.
I know why he's there.
I'd like Shoogly to tell the world!

QUOTE(Bryan @ Nov 2 2009, 03:07 PM)
Where then


MORTONJAG PLEASE ANSWER!!!!



Your post seems semi serious TiD so I've copied and pasted what the dwarf posted on the general forum. I thought the idea on the Jesse forum was NOT to report other posters, just as I genuinely believed we are not supposed to discuss the Jesse elsewhere.

By the way, can you confirm that your p.m. function is active as I want to send you a billet doux?

On a lighter note, the dwarf is in a huge cream puff because he's not been invited back to the cellar after his untimely escape in a shortbread tin.
mortonjag 2010-01-09 11:43:08
QUOTE(C B @ Jan 9 2010, 11:40 AM) [snapback]692029[/snapback]
Or we are not struggling with injuries, because McGregor is usually injured rolleyes.gif

The original poster was correct! blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-09 11:45:13
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jan 9 2010, 11:43 AM) [snapback]692032[/snapback]
as above

Thanks Stu! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-09 11:56:36
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jan 9 2010, 11:48 AM) [snapback]692035[/snapback]
laugh.gif good try , but sorry no champagne

Don't drink the stuff Measles! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-09 11:57:55
QUOTE(C B @ Jan 9 2010, 11:54 AM) [snapback]692038[/snapback]
Yes I know! Not like you to overlook the irony though ph34r.gif

Good! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-09 12:16:41
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jan 9 2010, 12:09 PM) [snapback]692044[/snapback]
My drink of choice I have to say rolleyes.gif

Chappie washed down with Moet et Chandon sounds just about right for the TRUSSSHT! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-09 12:18:09
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 9 2010, 12:15 PM) [snapback]692048[/snapback]
Correcto. It is a sad day right enough and we are still nowhere near them. Might take another eight to ten years at this rate .

Shoogly will only be 88 in ten years -maybe he's gunning for a telegram from King Charles. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-09 12:24:11 Many interesting posts and back to the heart of the issue. Minimum pricing on alcohol is NOT a solution for problem drinkers though it may go a little way towards preventing social 'problem drinking' -the overt manifestation of overindulgence.

What worries me is the immeasurable effect of covert drinking by large numbers of folk of apparently good social standing - folk who don't have to worry about the price of their 'friend', but often worry secretly about the fact that they cannot kick the habit.
mortonjag 2010-01-09 14:37:17
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jan 9 2010, 12:52 PM) [snapback]692068[/snapback]
Do they have the same supermarket deals over there? 15 cans for a tenner.

I'm sure we'll have a resident expert that'll shoot me down but the Swedish system has worked for them.

I'm not sure which Swedish initiative you're describing, or what is claimed to have worked. Can you give details?
mortonjag 2010-01-09 14:39:56
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Jan 9 2010, 12:39 PM) [snapback]692058[/snapback]
T.I.D. Stop shouting, it hurts my eyes.

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mortonjag 2010-01-09 14:44:22
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 9 2010, 12:21 PM) [snapback]692053[/snapback]
Nonsense MJ it will always be the player who is ultimately responsible for his fitness,motivation and attitude. This is typical spoon feeding and molly coddling bulls*** of a bunch of over paid spoilt brats not just at Cappielow but all over Scottish and British football.
I do wonder if an older wiser experienced manager would be the answer along with Grady to help cuddle all these hard done by lost souls.
To be fair Jim Mcinally and Sheep Lips didn't strike me as somebody you could look up to and respect and a lot of the boys were left to their own devices and form their own attitudes on who they are.
Unfortunately it is too little too late for Peter to make the big time BUT he could do a job at Cappielow IF he gets his finger oot his arse but nobody will help him unless he helps himself.

So managers don't/can't motivate players? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-09 14:47:45 [quote name='Rasta Ton' date='Jan 9 2010, 02:45 PM' post='692111']
Aye like you're a credible fountain of knowledge on football.


My comment was about your eyesight Ratarse! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-09 14:52:47
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Jan 9 2010, 01:13 PM) [snapback]692076[/snapback]
laugh.gif Aye sure you can, maybe if you buy the goods second hand from a local council when a public loo has to be knocked down! I fear to think what your bathroom looks like if thats the case Jag, complete with glory holes i wager!

I actually bought an entire bathroom on the 2nd of Jan (complete suite, heated tower rail, shower, tiles, lights etc.) and got most of it it in the B&Q half price sale (which i think ended on the 4th) & the rest in the various bathrooms places in Hillington. Came to about £1k and that was including absolutely everything. Mate is going to fit it for a couple of hundred as well, so about 1.2k in total (although there is plenty of options above and below that price) I think Homebase still has a big sale on, maybe worth a look.

He only wants a bath with shower, sink, and bog. I could make a lovely job for less than £300. naturally I'd be doing all the work myself.
mortonjag 2010-01-09 14:54:58
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 9 2010, 01:08 PM) [snapback]692075[/snapback]
Older woman having an affair with the younger man, great movie. But in N.Ireland it really happened.
Wife of the First Minister, Iris Robinson, involved in affairs of the heart, financial irregularities, suicide attempt and her extreme views on homosexuality would put some on this forum to shame.

If this story was a TV drama you would say it's too far fetched. More to come as well (no pun intended)

Pity Moira and Bawheid's is just a cover for his pouffery! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-09 15:04:40
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 9 2010, 02:58 PM) [snapback]692124[/snapback]
Mods !!!

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I hope you are not calling our Mods pouffes! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-09 15:10:04
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 9 2010, 02:59 PM) [snapback]692126[/snapback]
If you look at the figures, there is no evidence to suggest underage drinking is on the increase, and drinking among 18-24 year olds as a whole is slightly decreasing. Unless the winos are having a rammy over the dessert course I don't see how the problem is any worse for the authorities than ten years ago.

It's again worth pointing out that middle class evening drinkers would be completely unaffected by a 40p per unit minimum price.

I'd prefer to keep class out of the equation though I understand what you're driving at.
mortonjag 2010-01-09 15:17:31
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 9 2010, 03:10 PM) [snapback]692136[/snapback]
This is like saying Mussolini was less of a bawbag than Hitler. The differences are overwhelmed by the striking similarities of incompetence, or bawbagishness respectively.

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I strongly disagree. They both have uses mainly in that they work their respective baws off (well Jimbo used to) and track back a lot. I still believe McAlister has more than average ability and desperately needs a change of club, of coach, and possibly of attitude if he's ever to 'make it'. Finners on the other hand will always play a blinder in about every tenth game and that's about it I'm afraid.
mortonjag 2010-01-09 15:21:25
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 9 2010, 03:16 PM) [snapback]692138[/snapback]
It is a good point Shirley that the common misconception is that it is the neds that are the worst offenders and focus solely on them. As you quite rightly point out MJ alcoholism is not a class condition however poverty amd lack of education can help in the battle against our drink problem and as I have said it perhaps stops other classes in society getting help because of the stigma and shame. That is why I am not sure if price increases would necessarily ease the problem significantly but curtailing and controlling the amount you can drink in a session should be looked at.

'Sessions' are the tip of the iceberg. Most problem drinking is done in private or at least in situations where intake can not be monitored by outside agencies.
mortonjag 2010-01-09 15:24:01
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jan 9 2010, 03:20 PM) [snapback]692144[/snapback]
i know your at te wind up but do you actually think our dear ;leaders gay? iv heard otherwise...

He displays attributes of the archetypal closet pouffe. Then again he's as ugly as sin, so maybe a dowdy old dame who's almost old enough to be his Mummy's the best he could get!
mortonjag 2010-01-09 15:25:45
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 9 2010, 03:19 PM) [snapback]692143[/snapback]
I'm not saying Finlayson is worth a new contract at the end of season going by his form so far. But he's not the worst player we have just now.

That's Davie McGregor for me!
mortonjag 2010-01-09 15:28:26
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 9 2010, 02:39 PM) [snapback]692107[/snapback]
That's because of the red mist that comes over your eyes at the start, I don't think you remember anything in the middle.

I do humbly apologise dwarf - I thought that was your sweetie poke. I vaguely remember thinking that your taste in fudge was - well SH1TE! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-09 15:32:29
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 9 2010, 03:30 PM) [snapback]692155[/snapback]
Mr Salmond is beautiful.

[attachment=6276:AlexSalm...040306_1.jpg]

Indeed - here he is swinging to Cliff's 'Summer Holiday'!
mortonjag 2010-01-09 15:33:43
QUOTE(cmdc @ Jan 9 2010, 03:22 PM) [snapback]692147[/snapback]
That's the key point. Even if we had the extra money, I shudder to think how we'd have spent it!

Gowser
mortonjag 2010-01-09 15:36:29
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 9 2010, 03:22 PM) [snapback]692148[/snapback]
By outside agencies do you pub land lords Douglas or Edwards style 'welcome to Soviet Russia'?

I believe that a significant proportion of, if not most 'problem' drinkers either drink in privacy or continue their drinking in privacy having left the 'social' environment, Peter.
mortonjag 2010-01-09 15:38:27
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 9 2010, 03:33 PM) [snapback]692159[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDBack on topic -Mrs Robinson and Mrs Salmond both have/had 'toy boys'. Mrs Robinson shagged her toy boy.
mortonjag 2010-01-09 15:42:05
QUOTE(cmdc @ Jan 9 2010, 03:33 PM) [snapback]692160[/snapback]
Yep, I agree with this. That's the reason I've been quick to defend him of late. Even though I don't think he can play in the Championship, he absolutely has the ability to play in this league. If we have a clear out, he's one of the players I think could prosper with better players around him. Jenkins too, and probably Weatherson. This club has been poisonous for players, look at Millar and Gardyne after they left, or Jenkins and McGuffie before they arrived.

I'd be keen to keep hold of Cuthbert (and probably Stewart), Geacen, Shimmin (and possibly Walker too), MacFarlane, Jenkins and McAlister (albeit moved to the right), and build from there.

And that runs the whole way through from JM to JG. Could there be a common factor? blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-09 15:45:59 Why didn't they bat him across the head with their shovels!
McArsole
mortonjag 2010-01-09 15:53:59
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jan 9 2010, 03:48 PM) [snapback]692170[/snapback]
I totally agree. It seems that many players once they have got a contract (irrespective of the length) seem to slip into a comfort zone.

I thought it was more to do with a lack of players who could link properly with him, but there you go. VZ was a skiver - it's now public! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-09 16:11:34
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 9 2010, 04:01 PM) [snapback]692174[/snapback]
With out a shadow of a doubt it is a major factor but I wonder if alcohol was less in abundance morning noon and night they would have started drinking alone or in private also if they were curtailed in getting drink more at the start before it was a problem then the risk factor of it developing would be significantly dropped.

If you accept that alcoholism is genetic (or largely genetic) - and I'm NOT talking about heavy drinking, rather addiction, then it's logical to suggest that if a genetic alkie never had the opportunity to sample the stuff, he couldn't become addicted.

It's naive, however, to imagine that alcoholism 'develops' -ask almost any alcoholic (recovering or otherwise) and he'll tell you that his drinking was 'different from others' almost from the word go.
mortonjag 2010-01-09 17:34:04
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 9 2010, 04:31 PM) [snapback]692179[/snapback]
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Not sure if it has been proved beyond doubt it is simply genetic. I look forward to hearing from people on here who would be able to enlighten me. If he never got the chance to sample the stuff to excess rather than no alcohol would that be just as effective to a genetic alcoholic? Can you get a non genetic alcoholic ? and doessocial circumstances play no part in what "caused" the person/persons to drink to excess?

For practical purposes it's better to consider alcoholism (or any addiction) as multifactorial. I've studied addictive behaviour and have experience in counselling addicts, and in addition I spent many years in General Practice where the problems of excessive drinking often surface while still hidden publicly. My conclusion is that addictive behaviour is primarily genetic - indeed it is common to find an addict 'controlling' one problem merely to switch to another. The best example is perhaps ex smokers becoming comfort eaters!

It's impossible to find any universally agreed definition of alcoholism, but 'recovering alcoholics' generally agree that they became powerless to control their drinking and that their lives in consequence become unmanageable. That applies right across the social, age, and wealth spectra.

'Alcoholism' is most certainly NOT a class disease, though social circumstances obviously impinge on any genetic illness. Many addicts are capable of 'acceptable' behaviour and 'full blown' alcoholism appears at different rates in different people - indeed many alcohol addicts may never become 'alcoholics' depending of course on your chosen definition of 'alcoholism'!

I don't believe that you CAN get a non-genetic alcohol addict any more than you can get a non genetic gambling addict, though the biggest problem of all appears to be in finding that universally acceptable definition of 'alcoholism'.

Anyway, the thing that strikes me most forcibly is that raising the price of booze will not prevent those who want or need it enough from accessing a supply - even if that means batting the old dear next door over the head to get access to her Bucky stash, or remortgaging the house.

It's all very complex and the solution, if there will ever be one, is far too important to be entrusted to politicians and tame 'toe the line' medical 'experts'!
mortonjag 2010-01-09 17:45:40
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 9 2010, 04:27 PM) [snapback]692178[/snapback]
Still eating the brown stuff I give you then

It was never a donation.
mortonjag 2010-01-09 17:54:00
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 9 2010, 10:09 AM) [snapback]691954[/snapback]
I've been ordered to get a new bathroom suite, (bath with shower, sink & bog) this year.

I'm skint and want to wait until I save some money.

Can you tell me how much it costs. I've heard horror stories of people paying £10,000 and stuff. is it possible to do it on the cheap? I mean really really cheap, and still it looks good ?



QUOTE(centralTON @ Jan 9 2010, 05:33 PM) [snapback]692192[/snapback]
It depends what you're looking for. You can get a full suite for about the £300 mark, but remember you get what you pay for.

It's best to shop around and you will get a discount at a plumbers merchant if you open up an account.

Plus, take everything into account, not just the suite, i.e tiles and tiling, acccessories, electrical work, joinerywork if required, plastering, decorating. It all adds up.

Absolutely!

WDE said this:

is it possible to do it on the cheap? I mean really really cheap, and still it looks good ?


B & Q are currently selling a bath for £75 just to cite an example -Ok you'd have to be patient and wait for deals etc. but I'm convinced it could be done to his spec for less than £300.
mortonjag 2010-01-09 17:59:04
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 9 2010, 05:57 PM) [snapback]692205[/snapback]
I'm pretty sure those three deals were announced the day (or day before) the Hamilton fiasco.

The way money has been slung about with seemingly gay abandon down Cappielow way is quite astonishing though, especially when the chairman is constantly demanding that we "bring a friend" because we need 4,000 to break-even. Maybe one day common sense will prevail.

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mortonjag 2010-01-09 18:03:19
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 9 2010, 05:56 PM) [snapback]692204[/snapback]
Has there been a gene that has been identified that explains and is responsible for all addictions? If it is genetic does it miss generations of say father and son links or what?
Surely there must be a social aspect to that as well. I guess it is the old chicken or the egg question? The problems in their life caused them to drink e.g. messy divorce or were they predestined to drink and only drink? or are there some activities and physical products which can have the same effect. Eating a cake or sweetie in large proportions produces a chemical feeling from the cake in food addicts? but is that the same as a gambler gets if his horse wins?

Of course it is, and I'm merely putting forward my opinion which is based on considerable experience.

The topic is about the effect of minimum pricing on socially harmful drinking (and I'm using that term globally) and I haven't a shadow of doubt that hiking up the price will be as effective as pissing in the ocean or asking Douglas Rae for an honest answer.
mortonjag 2010-01-09 18:14:53
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 9 2010, 06:00 PM) [snapback]692207[/snapback]
Are you suggesting our esteemed chairman is a pouffe???

I keep an open mind on all things. smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-09 18:18:29
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 9 2010, 06:11 PM) [snapback]692211[/snapback]
I don't see how anyone can accuse Paartalu of being lazy. As I see it, he's an honest big guy who has the ability to become a very accomplished defensive midfielder at this level, but he does seem quite immature as a player at times. Hopefully playing alongside McFarlane will help him to that end, and that people are willing to have a bit of patience with him.

As for Masterton, he's played well when we've played a system and style that suits him, but disappared at other times. I don't think he's lazy as such, but he is at times too laid-back for his own good. He definitely possesses a great deal of technical ability, and if we were to play something like a 4-3-3, I think he would excel alongside McFarlane/Paartalu and Jenkins. Again, probably the type of player who would fare much better if he wasn't getting hassle from a couple of thousand people every time he touched the ball, but there you go.
Both of them are still young guys learning the game, playing in roles which many players don't really fully develop in until a later age - see Barry Robson and Paul Hartley to name two. Not that either have been outstanding performers every time they've played, but they do have talent and sometimes you need to have a wee bit of patience. Maybe they would be more tolerated if they just lunged into all manner of ridiculous tackles to show their "passions".

Indeed. If Jimbo and Finners are perceived to be midfielders, I'd rather be shot of both of them before any of the players you've mentioned.
mortonjag 2010-01-10 11:18:47
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 9 2010, 08:53 PM) [snapback]692252[/snapback]
I have a wide circle of friends (or should that be a circle of wide friends?) laugh.gif

So you have no need to widen the circle of your friends, (or should that be widen your friend's circle)! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-10 11:24:12
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jan 9 2010, 09:45 PM) [snapback]692263[/snapback]
You have to question Dougie's decision not to sell the ground and car park to RI

Is that a fact Stu?
mortonjag 2010-01-10 11:48:35 Scottish football's all about money or the lack of it they say, but prudent forward planning goes a long way towards generating income.

How much money has Morton generated from the selling on of players since Rae took over? Had we cultivated available youth players from seven years ago there is every possibility that we could have found a McCarthy or a Griffiths. Mr Rae wasn't and isn't interested. WHY?

We had the opportunity to tap young Aussie talent with financial assistance thrown in. Mr Rae wasn't interested. WHY?

The club could have appointed somebody with football experience to oversee the running of its finances and day to day activities. Mr Rae wasn't interested. WHY?

We might even have grasped a recent opportunity of substantial inward investment, but Mr Rae wasn't interested. WHY?

So here we are today as Hamilton take on them Hunce, crying in our beer because DVZ's away off to them and probably won't even play, yet Mr Rae claims we're SPL bound. WHY?

In my humble opinion the answer is simple. Rae hasn't an earthly clue about running a football club but nobody (and special mention goes to Jim McColl and Stuart Duncan) has been able to stand up to the dictatorial old fud.

F*ck the 'ground improvements' until we need them - we've got a good pitch and good floodlights (paid for by somebody) so why not concentrate on generating some income by making folk WANT to watch Greenock Morton.

That means facilitating the signing of the proper players and that BY THE MANAGER!

Will Mr Rae be interested and if not, WHY NOT?
mortonjag 2010-01-10 11:57:03
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 9 2010, 10:16 PM) [snapback]692275[/snapback]
bigdoc never talks s***e ... take that back! unsure.gif tongue.gif

Bigdoc talks a pile of sh1te if the truth be told. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-10 11:59:01
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jan 10 2010, 02:51 AM) [snapback]692347[/snapback]
C'mon mate, you know as well as I do that a £75 bath will fall apart before your visa payments have been paid off. Most of these baths are 6mm plastic, I would advocate pressed steel, but obvoiusly that costs more.
You stick to diagnosing and I'll stick to the plumbing. wink.gif

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He only asked for cheap and cheerful, and I only said it can be done! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-10 12:02:23
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jan 10 2010, 03:06 AM) [snapback]692353[/snapback]
I just shave, my whole boby, no that's not a spelling mistake. laugh.gif

I just shave my hole, Bobby!
mortonjag 2010-01-10 12:06:27
QUOTE(suda @ Jan 10 2010, 12:02 PM) [snapback]692398[/snapback]
Or direct your questions in a reasoned manner to the man himself instead of waging some juvenile internet campaign which has no impact but to bore the people daft enough to read it. Both have the best interests of Morton at heart, both think they know the best way to run a club one has the money power and control to put his ideas into practice the other has a keyboard. Maybe you should change your tactics if you want your ideas heard MJ.

I have.

Rae is more interested in Rae than in Morton. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-10 12:44:29
QUOTE(ccc @ Jan 10 2010, 12:08 PM) [snapback]692406[/snapback]
Are you more interested in Morton than yourself? blink.gif

Nope, nor do I pretend to be!

It's pathetic to hear 'Douglas Rae is Morton through and through' trotted out in defence of the old fud's self indulgent flights of fancy.

It's equally pathetic that folk still bother to personally attack Mortonjag for posing legitimate questions, but there you go - not everybody's as bright as Jaggy. sad.gif

Does anybody in his right mind seriously believe we'll sniff the SPL while Aesop's still in charge? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-10 14:50:13
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 10 2010, 01:50 PM) [snapback]692463[/snapback]
We haven't been in the premiership in my lifetime so I think putting it on the last 8 years and Dougie Rae is a bit moronic.

But don't let your feelings get in the way of facts smile.gif
The hard fact most people don't grasp is that for the last 22 or so years we have been out of the top flight of Scottish football. That is nearly a quarter of a century. Many things have happened in that time to the club, both highs and lows. Of course we all want to get to the top tier but people need to realise it is not an automatic right!

Unless I'm mistaken most folk have been conned into believing that Greenock Morton are rightfully in the lower divisions.

Nothing in football is an automatic right, unless you're the relatively penniless, blinkered, and dictatorial old fud in charge of Greenock Morton, who appears not only to assume the automatic right to make a complete mess of things, but who still expects loyalty from the fans he's sold down the river...and talking of arses, said old fud's arse is still lovingly lathered by the slevering brown tongues of some sad myopes. dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-10 14:55:39
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jan 10 2010, 12:18 PM) [snapback]692416[/snapback]
Your quite right, but then again i have never gave out wrong information on a professional basis, unlike someone we know laugh.gif laugh.gif ABBA

That requires an explanation.
mortonjag 2010-01-10 15:04:02
QUOTE(mentalton @ Jan 10 2010, 12:19 PM) [snapback]692417[/snapback]
Alcoholics are differenf from normal drinkers, our bodies do not process the alcohol the same as "normal drinkers" and this leaves us craving for more of what caused the craving, the more we drink, the worse the craving becomes. Normal drinkers never experience this craving because their bodies break the alcohol down correctly. Morton jag is correct in, what he says, anyone who becomes alcoholic will admit that his drinking was always "different" from his mates. In the early days we can controll it but as we drink more our bodies become less and less able to break the drink down and we become powerless over it, thus it is a progressive illness, never getting better, only worse. The only answer is total abstention because if we introduce alcohol to our system the whole process starts again. I speak from experience, I have never lost a job, been done for DD or anything one would associate with an "alky" but believe me, its no fun when you cant function without this stuff in your system. When I see young people who have the potential to be affected by this illness it saddens me as I know the misery that is waiting down the line for them.

I wish more folk had the baws to speak as you do. Do you think minimum alcohol pricing will address the issue of genuine problem drinking and drinkers?

QUOTE(cappiecat @ Jan 10 2010, 02:47 PM) [snapback]692503[/snapback]
Straight from tha AA big book and totally medically unfounded.Please don't take this as a personal sleight,
the fact you have your addiction under control is a magnificent achievement.AA has helped thousands worldwide
and I don't decry them, it's just that a lot of what they claim to be fact is actually outdated opinion.
I used to have huge alcohol and drug addiction problems (for MANY years) but addressed them 8 years ago.
I now work with people with addictions and have witnessed that total abstinence is not necessary for some.
I can go for a few pints occasionally without it releasing my demons.There may be a genetic element to addiction but in the main I believe addiction to be a behavioural problem and therefor changing your thinking and behaviour is the key to successful recovery without the need for God's or higher powers.
Once again, mentalton, don't take this as a dig, it's just an opinion. Right at the start AA were a help to me,not the big book or the 12 steps (apart from step1 which is crucial to realise)but from the amazing people I met there.

Repeating what I said to Mentalton, (and FFS you guys are singing from the same hymn sheet so don't let theories drive a wedge between you) do you think minimum alcohol pricing will adddress the fundamental problem of excessive drinking?
mortonjag 2010-01-10 15:20:46
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 10 2010, 03:00 PM) [snapback]692513[/snapback]
Probably related a woman with mental health issues who works in a charity shop in the west of of Glasgow. You know, the one you told us all about.

I recall mentioning that a personal friend - not a patient - and not someone to whose medical records I had access, had had a potentially successful career blighted by Manic Depressive illness. My friend's name is Barbara Campbell, and the last time we spoke she no longer worked voluntarily in Oxfam in Byres Road rather than pursuing her intended career in medicine as both her parents had done. I mentioned to Babs that I'd described her circumstances on this little massage board - indeed I told her that Smeggy et al had had a wankathon over my 'divulging personal medical details'. Her comment - 'That's a bit sad'.

My post was furthermore in context, as at the time Smeggy and others were claiming that I was belittling the mentally ill.

SO -are you, and indeed is Big Doc accusing me of professional misconduct?



mortonjag 2010-01-10 15:23:20
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jan 10 2010, 03:05 PM) [snapback]692521[/snapback]
Well go on then explain your incompetence ......................

NO -will you please explain your allegation. If you can't, others will no doubt reach their own conclusions. If you genuinely believe I've been remiss professionally and want to talk about it openly on a message board, I'm entitled to know what the allegation is!
mortonjag 2010-01-10 15:32:33
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jan 10 2010, 03:16 PM) [snapback]692528[/snapback]
For a minute there I thought we had turned a corner with MJ referring to Dougie as Mr Rae. And we were going to get a sensible post from MJ in 2010. Then he goes and spoils it all later on by calling him an old fud! dry.gif

It's business as usual at the Newall residence. One egotistical old fud having ago at another. laugh.gif

..and business as usual in Mr Duncan's Measles' kennel, as the dug jerks off at the thought of the TRUSSHT buying out said old fud with its unlimited riches! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-10 15:34:31
QUOTE(suda @ Jan 10 2010, 03:29 PM) [snapback]692541[/snapback]
asking questions on here is the height of futility, you claim there are too many ****wits happy to accept their position but in reality posting on here shows that your a just a ****wit that's unhappy, your not changing anything just because you stick your opinion up. I can't ever remember a critical poster who showed a viable alternative that the club could actually benefit from and if they did why waste their time sticking it on here when they should be concetrating their efforts on getting it implemented. We had plenty of direct action when Scott was in charge because it was needed, now the only cause of action people are prepared to take is to bump their gums on here because there is no courage in the convictions of a man who won't even attend a Q&A.

Really.

Why did Crawford Rae send Mortonjag a personal email about Alistair Donald?

OOPS I've just scaled the height of futility! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-10 15:37:40
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jan 10 2010, 03:25 PM) [snapback]692540[/snapback]
alcohol in moderation in a balanced diet does no harm (and some studies claim it does good) ther is no such case for cigarettes

Don't waste your breath -he's a f*cking crane driver not a Doc, and I'm still waiting for his answer to my question about his allegations of incompetence on the part of a TRUE professional. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-10 15:39:25
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jan 10 2010, 03:36 PM) [snapback]692551[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Jan 10 2010, 03:24 PM) [snapback]692537[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Has nobody ever thought that just maybe the Rae's do not want to take Morton into the Spl.

Because in my opinion they don't due to having to bring better players to the club for higher wages to get us promoted, thereafter having probably to bring in an even higher calibre of player in the Spl for more money due to not having an efficent conveyer belt of rich talent coming through from the youths.

Also with the higher running cost with going into the Spl it is my opinion he is not willing to take the risk even with buying the stand from that mob up the road.

Dougie has always paid lip service to the youth set up and always will no matter what. He doesn't believe its worth the investment, simples

Thanks for that Stu.
mortonjag 2010-01-10 15:52:01 I always saw Morton as my team but had never been to Cappielow until I was about thirteen as we were not a wealthy family and I lived in Kilmacolm (I know that sounds like a contradiction!). Anyway what clinched it was going to a Proddy Secondary school in Paisley. I couldn't believe that three quarters of my mates supported Rangers and not the Midden and I was expected to do the same, so I persuaded a pal from Bridge of Weir to come with me to Cappielow. That was just before the Hal Stewart years and wonderfully happy times lay ahead. I could never stop supporting the Ton, and I just wish others would realise that we could be a LOT bigger than we are.
mortonjag 2010-01-10 15:56:08
QUOTE(suda @ Jan 10 2010, 03:38 PM) [snapback]692558[/snapback]
because he recognises you are a very important fan and he wanted to make sure you realise how valued your opinions are another 30,000 posts and he might put a wee cushion on your seat for you.

Good God - another with insider contacts. Tell him 'Thanks' and I'll get posting like f*ck! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-10 16:06:55
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 10 2010, 04:00 PM) [snapback]692575[/snapback]
So you only sought her approval to divulge her identity and personal medical details on a public forum after doing so?

I'd have though that was professional misconduct, yeah.

It's just as well then that you don't sit on the GMC.

Firstly I have never revealed her identity until today.

Secondly I have never revealed any of her personal medical details.

Wee Willie Winkie up the stairs suffers from bunions.

Big Bertha Broon across the landing told me she's a diabetic.

Oh and another of my close friends presently has a hangover! laugh.gif

So just for the sake of clarity CHC, I don't take kindly to being accused of professional misconduct by you or by Big Doc or by anybody else, unless the accusation is justified. Perhaps you will be good enough to reconsider your opinion.

..and for once I'm deadly serious, so don't try to hide behind a frivolous response.

mortonjag 2010-01-10 16:08:15
QUOTE(suda @ Jan 10 2010, 04:04 PM) [snapback]692576[/snapback]
wrong again Earnie.

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mortonjag 2010-01-10 17:07:56
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 10 2010, 04:31 PM) [snapback]692587[/snapback]
No frivolous respose, I'm deadly serious too.

Disclosing the medical symptoms of someone along with their sex and place of work including its exact location in a public forum and without their prior consent or knowledge was wrong and downright irresponsible. It was a wee charity shop she worked in after all, not ICI, so you did all but give her identity.



Good.

How can somebody be guilty of professional misconduct in respect of a person for whom he has never had professional responsibility?

By definition I have NO professional responsibility to friends. I did NOT 'disclose medical symptoms' nor did I disclose 'the exact location' of her erstwhile workplace, nor indeed did I disclose anything which she does not discuss freely and openly with all whom she meets.

Or to put it differently -Babs doesn't give a f*ck about what I said and has confirmed that I acted appropriately.

Where does that leave you and your transparent agenda? If you're a big enough man you'll apologise, but we've been there before! ph34r.gif



mortonjag 2010-01-10 17:37:16
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 10 2010, 04:39 PM) [snapback]692589[/snapback]
And if it doesn't pay off you end up like Airdrie, Livingston, Gretna....
It's all about the gamble and whether it would pay off. The consequences if not do not bare thinking.

Couldn't be any worse than your attempts at English. smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-10 17:53:08
QUOTE(mentalton @ Jan 10 2010, 04:29 PM) [snapback]692584[/snapback]
Thanks MJ, in reply to cappies welcome comments, if you can go for a "few pints" occasionally with no problems then you are NOT an alcoholic, if I went for a few pints then sooner or later I would be back to square one, believe me I tried often enough. I answer to your question would minimum pricing work, no, when I was drinking it didnt matter how much the stuff cost, I needed it so I got it, even though it affected my family financially, we encourage visitors at open meetings, lets them see and hear for themselves what this stuff can to to you once it gets control, problem is no one sees the need to stop before its got a hold and by then its too late. One good quote to sum it up is " Alcohol gives you wings to fly, then it takes away the sky", sums it up perfectly.

Not taking offence Cappie, but if I could go for a pint without the chaos which would ensue I would not be in AA.

Trouble is again finding a universally acceptable definition of 'an alcoholic'. Another problem is finding decent statistics for any form of 'rehab' be it total abstinence or whatever else.

My personal take is that if you've ever got to the level where alcohol has taken control of you rather than the opposite, you walk a tightrope if you think you can subsequently control your drinking, though I'm sure some are successful. What I fail to understand though is this. Moderate drinking never gives the 'hit' which the alcohol addict (or alcoholic?) craves, so successfully drinking in moderation begs the question?
mortonjag 2010-01-10 18:27:28
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 10 2010, 06:01 PM) [snapback]692619[/snapback]
That is not the most pressing part in my opinion. The manager and the first team are the most pressing part and the youth set up should have been tackled six years ago at least . The youth team set up smacks to me of people who fancy being the saviour of the club but the one major flaw I see is why are we the punters investing in youth and handing them over free gratis to Dougie with no return. Why is he not splashing the cash on the youth set up. Seems something not quite right that a "charity" produces players for a "business" and the guy who runs it gets "products" for nothing and the fans see nothing in return financially. Bizzare if this is the case.
I would like the Trusssssst to explain this if it is true in my understanding.
The question is if a young teenager is produced by the Trussssssst that has the potential to be worth a million in five or six years time and hands him to the club at seventeen. Does the trussssst get anything in return if the club sell him six months later for a million pounds.

There is one area where Douglas Rae has been overwhelmingly successful, and that's in 'Divide and rule'.

You are correct to allude to those who are still living in the past - in the days of 'Save the Ton'. The concept of the Trust is excellent, but in practice it fails primarily because folk ain't really that interested right now. Rae driven apathy pervades everything at Cappielow - even the Cowshed has been struck dumb, and crowds are dwindling frighteningly, but Shoogly blames everybody except himself. Mistake after mistake after mistake but none of them his fault!

Those who exhort us to ask questions do Neville Chamberlain proud. The Club only answers questions when it suits the Club, and the answers themselves are often questionable.

So what are the fans supposed to do - what CAN the fans do? It would be lovely to feel some sense of unity, but every time somebody dares to question His Master's Voice (as in this very thread), we end up fighting among ourselves. That is a measure of his success in protecting his power and position at any cost. Douglas Rae is 'Morton through and through'. AYE RIGHT.



mortonjag 2010-01-10 20:03:16 What exactly is minimum pricing trying to achieve? Of course certain people will drink less if they can't afford it, but so far as preventing the REAL social burden of 'problem' drinking is concerned it's going to make no difference at all -indeed those who are determined to drink will STILL drink, even if it means resorting to anti social behaviour either to get booze or cash to buy it - and in anti-social behaviour I include misuse of personal finances to the detriment of family etc. In addition it's not so long ago that Red Biddy, Brasso, Bel Air hairspray, and even bubbling coal gas through milk were methods adopted by desperate alcohol addicts.

To put it differently, those who will drink less because it costs more are already able to control their drinking. For those who cannot, a hike in price will simply exacerbate the problem.
mortonjag 2010-01-10 20:15:18
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 10 2010, 07:47 PM) [snapback]692670[/snapback]
It's worth pointing out that Hamilton owe on their balance sheet over £1 million to their chairman, and only last year a judge described them as being technically insolvent.

True and it's also worth pointing out that Hamilton play in the SPL, have just won a lucrative Cup replay at Ibrox, and have several saleable players on their books. In addition they have an active and productive involvement in youth development. It's also worth pointing out that they have a fan base significantly smaller than ours! sad.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-10 20:17:54
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 10 2010, 05:05 PM) [snapback]692596[/snapback]
No Moet, no showy, no Chandon, no bandon....as some people used to say.

No Chappie, no happy as Measles is wont to whine.
mortonjag 2010-01-10 20:23:57
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 10 2010, 08:17 PM) [snapback]692701[/snapback]
That's circumstantial 'evidence' there. And at 40p per unit, the idea that 16 year olds wouldn't be able to afford an extra £2 on a 3 litre bottle of cider is jsut far-fetched. Failing that they could just steal it.

Despite all the informed posts including those from guys who have 'worn the tee shirt' we still have those who blab on about 'becoming an alcoholic'.

It's a wee bit like increasing the price of cheese for mice! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-10 20:44:07
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 10 2010, 08:41 PM) [snapback]692736[/snapback]
Well of course everything is supposition until it's put into practice, but if we adopted your approach of everything must have a cast-iron 100% guarantee before being implemented, then we'd never do anything.

There [b]is evidence it works elsewhere,[/b] I accept that that doesn't necessarily mean it would work in Scotland, but I still believe we should at least try it.

What evidence that what works in which way?
mortonjag 2010-01-10 20:49:26
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 10 2010, 08:41 PM) [snapback]692734[/snapback]
I tried to highlight some of the poor record of the youth set up despite the area having a few promising players.

I even asked DDFR and although he pointed out such things take time without any guarentee of success and I pointed out that Craig Black, Alan Gilbrides age group won the under17's league, that was a success that should have been built on. We didn't , an under19's team should have been initiated at that time.

The argument about not being able to afford a youth set is an absolute nonsense can any deny the current policy is working.

A fitting epitaph for the old fud.
mortonjag 2010-01-10 20:51:14
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 10 2010, 08:46 PM) [snapback]692743[/snapback]
Sweden.

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Gie's a clue!
mortonjag 2010-01-10 20:58:13 Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Get the jab and the wee one develops a serious reaction - highly unlikely but possible.

Don't get the jab and the child gets Swine Flu and dies -probably much more highly unlikely but possible.

It's always a difficult decision for parents but ultimately it's your call.

I believe that the Swine Flu thing has been a bit blown out of proportion but that's just a personal viewpoint.
mortonjag 2010-01-10 21:02:04
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Jan 10 2010, 08:54 PM) [snapback]692755[/snapback]
Me too, let's meet for a buckie at the whinhill stn shelter. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

More seriously, I don't think the pricing policy is actually directed at under age and young drinkers.
It's an attempt at tackling our nations shocking alcohol problem as a whole.



Yip -folk keep missing that - and as such it is IMO doomed!
mortonjag 2010-01-10 21:15:36
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 10 2010, 09:04 PM) [snapback]692768[/snapback]
When did you become a communist?



QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 10 2010, 09:13 PM) [snapback]692783[/snapback]
Where did I say they should be taken into care en masse?

I'm all up for an adult debate Davie, but when you make things up it's not really that constructive or enlightening.

Ipse dixit! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-10 21:21:13
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Jan 10 2010, 09:15 PM) [snapback]692788[/snapback]
Thanks to everyone for their thoughts and comments on the issue. It is a serious consideration for all parents with small children and I guess it is a decision that can not be made without due care and consideration.

One point that has stuck out here is that a medical professional has refused the vaccine on the grounds that we clearly do not know enough about it as it was prepared in a "rush".

However, when are we likley to know enough about it? Will we ever know enough about it in order to make a more informed decision? Will a newer more resultant (if that's the right term) vaccine be produced in 6/12/18 months time and if so will we be made aware of this and then "re-offered" this newer vaccine because we chose not to have this first, rushed one????

It is certainly a puzzler and I for one never thought I would be "pondering" over whether or not to have my Daughter vaccinated against a virus. She has already had the MMR and other jags to date and we never even stopped to give any of that a single thought so why has this made us stop in our tracks and pause for thought????

Hmmm ........ I'm non the wiser maybe only time will tell?


Although there will always be controversy about any form of immunisation, the well established 'jags' have been tried, tested, and generally found to be well worth the undoubted but small rsik.

I'm not convinced that the same can be said of swine flu immunisation.
mortonjag 2010-01-10 21:41:00
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 10 2010, 09:32 PM) [snapback]692806[/snapback]
I'm sure it would, but the SNP aren't proposing that and if they tried do they'd be booted out of government. It's a question of personal responsibility versus state intervention, and I'm by far on the side of personal responsibility. The state should take its VAT duty from alcohol and get to **** out of our social lives. It's not their place.

I agree with that in general.

Maybe they could think up other clever tricks like a maximum price on condoms to reduce AIDS etc., a minimum price on Zimmers so that more old c*nts fall and break their necks, doubling the price of baby food and nappies to prevent unwanted pregnancies etc. There must be plenty of other innovative ways of kidding folk on that you care.
mortonjag 2010-01-10 21:57:59
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 10 2010, 09:52 PM) [snapback]692820[/snapback]
laugh.gif That has been explained to you before, I told you back then and I would tell you again but you just don't listen so no point wasting my time.

There does seem to be genuine confusion about the proposed Youth Academy.

If it's not to be funded by the club or the Trust where will the funding come from.

Who will be in charge and to whom will he be answerable?

Genuine questions BTW.
mortonjag 2010-01-10 22:01:01
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 10 2010, 09:55 PM) [snapback]692822[/snapback]
Quite by accident I've just come accross this report

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/c...h/151/15102.htm

One paragraph of interest to this debate was.....

"It is not inevitable that per capita alcohol consumption should be almost three times higher than it was in the middle of the 20th Century or that liver disease should continue to rise.[b] Nor is it inevitable that at night town centres should be awash with drunks, vomit and disorder. These changes have been fuelled by cheap booze, a liberal licensing regime and massive marketing budgets."[/b]

and

"If you go out and buy three litres of 8.4% white cider for £2.99 you are getting more than your weekly safe limit in one bottle. That is as cheap as you can get it, about 10 pence a unit."

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Are you sure you weren't reading the Beano?
mortonjag 2010-01-10 22:05:57
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 10 2010, 10:03 PM) [snapback]692831[/snapback]
Greenock Morton FC - Inverclyde Football Academy. (GMIFA) is the name of the organisation setting up the Academy and has no formal ties with he Greenock Morton Supporters' Society or the trust as it commonly known.

I believe it will be self funding and reliant on grants and I believe Stuart Duncan has been instrumental in getting things off the ground, the rest I would be speculating on as I genuinely don't know.

Thanks.

Is that the same Stuart Duncan who once posted here that Shoogly paid for the Midden stand, 'cos if it is he could maybe let us all know how things are progressing, assuming that's OK with the boss.
mortonjag 2010-01-10 22:13:30
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 10 2010, 10:09 PM) [snapback]692842[/snapback]
One of the most pleasant aspects of living in mainland Europe is that you can go into just about any city centre of an evening and not see hoards of violent drunken neds roaming about. I specifically said 'just about' because the exceptions are of course those cities frequented by British holidaymakers and stag parties.

Britian's town and city centres from about 11pm to 3am at weekends are on the whole not pleasant places to be.

Many impecunious waifs would apparently disagree having saved up their pocket money all week to get smashed on the marginally dearer booze.
mortonjag 2010-01-10 22:16:21
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 10 2010, 10:11 PM) [snapback]692845[/snapback]
Yes I believe it has and he is but I should stress I'm not privy to special information, like cawston says there is info there if you go and look for it.

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mortonjag 2010-01-10 22:45:19
QUOTE(Jamie_M @ Jan 10 2010, 10:18 PM) [snapback]692851[/snapback]
Mortonjag's too scared to ask the questions directly to Dougie incase Dougie pulls a Tom Hicks on him...

"Blow me, **** face. Go to hell. I'm sick of you."

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/6684...-supporter.html

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QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 10 2010, 10:20 PM) [snapback]692852[/snapback]
What i was meaning Ernie was that the same questions are being asked time and time again by people who like to make out it's all a closed shop but the answers are readily available on the internet if you go and look for for them.

Sure, but why should we have to go and look for them when Mr Duncan posts here-or does he only post here on instructions?

QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 10 2010, 10:36 PM) [snapback]692858[/snapback]

Thanks JonaTon. I notice that the update's over six months old, and I have been watching the blog too but it seems to have run out of steam.
mortonjag 2010-01-10 22:47:53
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jan 10 2010, 10:37 PM) [snapback]692859[/snapback]
I know this one, its a question mark and is explained here ?

Hi Bryan, since i clarified Newtons clarification, can you clarify the calcification clarified by the initial clarifier

thanks in advance

Bigdoc xxx

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mortonjag 2010-01-10 22:51:51 Still waiting for a solitary poster to state unequivocally that Mr Rae is an honourable man. Wher ur yese? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-10 22:57:27
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jan 10 2010, 10:50 PM) [snapback]692864[/snapback]
Is plain bread made any different from pan bread or is it different flour?

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Pan bread is baked in individual pans.

Plain bread is baked in batches.

Auld's special pies are made by Aulds and ain't what they used to be either but must be eaten cold!
mortonjag 2010-01-10 23:03:05
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 10 2010, 10:58 PM) [snapback]692870[/snapback]
I'm not sure if this answers any of your questions:
greenockmortonfc.blogspot.com - AGM Report (18.12.2009)

Could the Club be one of the Academy's sponsors if the Club so chose?
mortonjag 2010-01-10 23:05:54
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 10 2010, 11:01 PM) [snapback]692873[/snapback]
cold surely not.

A habit I cultivated on my paper round fifty years ago - wouldn't eat them any other way. We are obsessed with heating up food. I adore cold macaroni cheese as long as it's cheesey enough.
mortonjag 2010-01-10 23:07:47
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 10 2010, 11:06 PM) [snapback]692876[/snapback]
YES WE DO HAVE OTHER OPTIONS AND IT COULD BE SELF FUNDING FOR FANS TO BUY OUT THE CLUB. IS THAT NOT WHAT THE TRUST WAS SET UP FOR. SELL THE YOUNG BOYS WORTH MILLIONS AND HEY PRESTO YOU HAVE A MASSIVE FANS FUND TO BID FOR THE CLUBS SHARES. I CANNAE BELIEVE WE ARE PASSING POTENTIALLY MILLION POUND YOUTHS FUNDED BY OURSELVES TO DOUGLAS RAE FOR NOTHING.

Hmm - that's an interesting thought.
mortonjag 2010-01-10 23:23:30 [quote name='JonaTon' date='Jan 10 2010, 11:15 PM' post='692881']


Could the Club be one of the Academy's sponsors if the Club so chose?

I think I'm safe in assuming that's a rhetorical question.


No -it was a genuine question -do the rules prohibit the club from being a sponsor?
mortonjag 2010-01-10 23:28:45
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 10 2010, 03:16 PM) [snapback]692529[/snapback]
I reckon he must be mortonjag then, no one else could make that many predictions without getting at least one correct. laugh.gif

As for predictions I will prdict not only the game on Tuesday will be off but also the Inverness game on Saturday. blush.gif

As already predicted by Mortonjag! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-10 23:32:01
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 10 2010, 10:58 PM) [snapback]692871[/snapback]
And there are existing laws in place to deal with this. We don't need more. There have been over 300 new ways of making us criminals since New labour came to power in '97, use one or two of them.

...and the Polis spend all day in the office trying to keep up with the paperwork.
mortonjag 2010-01-10 23:37:35
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 10 2010, 11:35 PM) [snapback]692889[/snapback]
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That I can't answer.

Maybe Stuart can if he's not too busy setting up his Academy!

Anyway: Slumber gently!
mortonjag 2010-01-11 08:08:09
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Jan 11 2010, 07:51 AM) [snapback]692924[/snapback]
bryan's a saddo

Byan = good guy

Mod = hard job

Sado - no

Macho -aye
mortonjag 2010-01-11 09:20:01 Not a chance of the game being on - end of! thumbdown.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 09:29:14
QUOTE(.:BrIDo:. @ Jan 11 2010, 12:56 AM) [snapback]692906[/snapback]
No, he's saying that consumption of alcohol will increase up to a point where the general population can't drink anymore regularly and still live a normal life. You say the levels of consumption hasn't been changed since 1998, who's to say the level of consumption in 1998 was at a safe level? And if they haven't changed, and people were drinking the same then as they do now: are we're maxed out already?

The propose plan is aimed at reducing alcohol problems across the board, from the alcoholic who dies from liver disease to the student who gets legless at the weekend and pisses on the war memorial - drink less and we'll have less health / social problems. I gather from your posts, the point you make is that it won't help everyone. How then do you tackle the problem with alcohol amongst those predisposed to it genetically? And as has already been stated, it might go a long way to prevent folk going down that road in the first place...
May be able to control it - but do they choose to? Having a higher price will influence this choice. Governments make laws like this all the time to influence public behaviour - the 'stay out of my social life' argument could be applied to lots of things 'stay out of how much electricity i use' or 'stay out of how long I idle my car for' or 'who are you to tell me when my tyres need replaced?'

Correct, and the question is whether or not minimum pricing will achieve that goal, and if there was ANY guarantee either way there would not be such a heated debate. My opinion is that it's overly simplistic and it's not by chance that increased prices will rake in more revenue! dry.gif The problems of alcohol are by and large caused by 'problem' drinkers. Increase the price and they will still access their drug just as a heroin addict does - and that at what public expense?

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 11 2010, 08:17 AM) [snapback]692926[/snapback]
I'm not a Tory, I'm an anarchist. happy.gif

Peter, I always knew we had much in common.
mortonjag 2010-01-11 09:32:33
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Jan 11 2010, 12:53 AM) [snapback]692905[/snapback]
Re your sig. The immaculate conception has nothing to do with Mary getting pregnant by the holy spirit.
It refers to Mary herself, she is the immaculate conception,as in, born without original sin.
Unlike Jesus who had to be baptised by John the Baptist, to rid him of sin.
Being an atheist, your wee joke doesn't offend me in the slightest, it just annoys me because it makes no sense at all.

This sentence will now bring my post back on ****ing topic.

I always believed that the innacurate conception was the belief that Douglas Rae can walk on water.
mortonjag 2010-01-11 09:44:38
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 11 2010, 09:33 AM) [snapback]692944[/snapback]
laugh.gif This will be one post I will half listen to Midton,Gourock supporter.
Based on what Cawton taking a hissy fit. There is no proper channels for something that doesn't exist yet and is typical of silly wee boys with over inflated ego. Anybody who hands over assets to a guy who has not invested in youth assets worth potentially thousands or more for a "charidee" does not make any sense. Jonaton said at the agm this was queeried and the answer was yes the potential players go over to Cappielow for free. So the project is not funded by the Board but they get all the profits and benefits after not investing substanially over the years and shirley the clubs shares would increase if this was to happen. The shares that the Trusssst has invested in and obviously Mr Rae has invested in also. I see only a win win for a guy who has done very little to invest in the youth system.

Rae has body swerved the youth issue every time he's been confronted. His treatment of NewTON's offer was a reprehensible example, and of course is documented alongside all the tales from frustrated parents and those genuinely interested - ask Chrissiboi or anybody clued up on the youngsters. The Trusssht has previously handed over money to Shoogly for purchase of strips etc., and when debate arose about the handling of that cash it became the TRUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHT! laugh.gif

It's really sad that an excellent idea has simply become the comfort zone of a few possibly well meaning but utterly misguided souls who cannot see the wood for trees. The Trussssht is going absolutely nowhere because its pennies are just that. The Youth Academy may get off the ground - good luck to the Bearded Tit, but as you correctly suggest, Shoogly will sook the life blood back out.

The only way forward for our club is for Rae to disappear.
mortonjag 2010-01-11 09:48:53
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 11 2010, 09:43 AM) [snapback]692948[/snapback]
Doc I view this more as an opportunity to try and steer future generations away from becoming problem drinkers, although I will admit that our history of heavy drinking does not help, but do we do nothing at all?
Teenagers are not so much problem drinkers but rather have a problem with drink and as a society we can change the approach that youth have to drink but much of that would depend on peers approach to educating youngsters.

I would much further than what is on the cards, I would do away completely with shops (especially in schemes) being allowed to sell alcohol (these are usually the main culprits for kids getting drink).

Edited to continue as my boy pressed reply while I was on the phone.

I would have government run only shops with only 1 or 2 in any town.

Indeed Barbie, but those who are amenable to being educated will respond to education with no need to treat them like numbskulls by making booze unattainable, and for those genetically predisposed neither will make any difference whatsoever.
mortonjag 2010-01-11 09:50:17
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 11 2010, 09:47 AM) [snapback]692951[/snapback]
I always believed that the immaculate conception was when you wore a pair of gloves while shaggin.

Shoogly wears black leather gloves and has been shaggin' the fans for years.
mortonjag 2010-01-11 10:12:10 My name is Barbara Campbell. I was the brightest pupil in my class at school and at the age of seventeen was headed for a career in medicine, just like my parents who were both anaesthetists. Within a very short time my life was turned upside down when my behaviour became erratic and my moods swung incredibly from ridiculous 'highs' to 'depths of despair' depression. Eventually my diagnosis was established - Bi-polar depression which folk sometimes call Manic Depressive psychosis. I now find it impossible to hold down a job even though I'm receiving treatment, because I can still suddenly hit a 'high' or 'low'. I've managed to work part time as a nursing assistant and also voluntarily in the Oxfam 'record' shop in Byres Road Glasgow - something I really enjoyed because of my interest in music. Recently I've gone to college in an attempt to get music qualifications. Maybe I can hold down a career in the Arts -fingers and toes crossed!

Despite my illness I'm an outgoing person and I happily discuss my problems with everybody I meet. It's astonishing how folk's prejudices melt when they realise that I'm a real person despite suffering from a serious psychotic illness.
See me
mortonjag 2010-01-11 10:16:26
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 11 2010, 09:55 AM) [snapback]692955[/snapback]
No argument with that. I don't agree with the Governments idea in detail but in principle something must be done to stop youth having such easy access to drink.

Like their parents scudding their wee pink botties rid raw if they come in even hinting of the stuff! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 10:29:18
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 11 2010, 10:19 AM) [snapback]692970[/snapback]
Well then Stuart Duncan and co are effectively doing his job for nowt. What next? A campaign to build a new stand. Campaign to fund new fulltime players?

On the point of selling on potential stars to big clubs. Who gets the money to buy new players? The Board? The Board who in my opinion have failed miserably over the years to buy any decent players that have been turned into making profits alla Hopkins,Lilley. etc.
If Stuart Duncan and co have not asked these questions then can we have somebodys thoughts and if they did and got the answer "Well you don't want them going to St. Mirren" then in my opinion they are well intentioned but I sadly think its crazy to just hand the boys over for nowt absolutely nothing not even shares in the club. Well what other option do we have? Say the youth set up was to tell Douglas to ram it. Would Douglas be under the spot light by the fans if the Ton had to go part time. The value of the club would decrease then and might mean somebody else could come in and give Rae an offer he could not refuse.

You make good points. There are still unanswered questions about the Youth Academy.

What seems to happen is that a promising youngster has to be on Morton's books before he can enrol in said academy, but Morton contribute absolutely zilch to the kid's development UNTIL he becomes an asset.

It's what will happen next that's the grey area.

The sad thing is that if we had an open and forward looking Chairman renowned for his honesty and integrity we wouldn't be asking those questions at all. dry.gif



mortonjag 2010-01-11 10:30:45
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 11 2010, 10:16 AM) [snapback]692967[/snapback]
Whit?



QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 11 2010, 10:18 AM) [snapback]692969[/snapback]
Apparently Jaggy's real name is Barbara.



QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 11 2010, 10:20 AM) [snapback]692973[/snapback]
What's yours? Mine is Jimmy Krankie. wink.gif



QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 11 2010, 10:22 AM) [snapback]692974[/snapback]
Fandabbiedozie. thumbup2.gif

Effin nutters - the lot of yese.
mortonjag 2010-01-11 10:38:06
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 11 2010, 10:33 AM) [snapback]692980[/snapback]
But even us adults no the risk but still carry on with the abuse of alcohol. We choose to drink excessively and its not just alcohol. A vast majority of well educated people choose to eat high fat, high sugar diets and take no exercise. We know what to do but don't do it.
Smoking in pubs was seen as totally "normal" and even after campaigns to "educate" people their choice was still to smoke. Baning it in pubs has been a success in my opinion and I can not imagine it going back to the old ways. Has this decreased smoking related deaths?
The fittest this society has been for a long long time was when their was rationing. Shirley a more moderate version would be acceptable.

A minimum price on MacDonalds would undoubtedly save a fortune in health bills! blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 10:55:17
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 11 2010, 10:48 AM) [snapback]692983[/snapback]
I do know what you are talking about, just jesting with you Jaggy. wink.gif

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mortonjag 2010-01-11 11:20:38
QUOTE(Deficon @ Jan 11 2010, 11:07 AM) [snapback]692991[/snapback]
much as i love this club, whos gonna buy it?? If the Midden who run a profit, with new ground,a growing SPL fan base and tv rights cant find a new buyer, Also Rangers cant find a buyer etc etc etc.

Hes our Chairman, who is investing and trying to do something with the place. Granted some things work, other dont, but it is his money getting used. We can all sit back and build a fantasy SPL outfit on here, but in reality we are all witnessing (in real life) that, not all seeds grow into beanstalks. People are quick to forget the state of the place when a last minute bid saved our wrecked club, Sky high debts and only a few football tops n' balls around the place. An entire youth set may be on the cards once other thing have been obtained, who knows?? But if the trust are trying to get something sorted sooner then thats great biggrin.gif as is anything which expands this club.

In the meantime i suggest mortonjag gets himself to an AGM once in a while ;-)

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Mortonjag remembers vividly that Raemanov stated (as reported by the Scottish Sun) on the morning of our Championship winning game at Kirkcaldy that 'As long as there was breath in his body, Greenock Morton would not be for sale', something which I'm sure Alistair Donald would confirm if given the opportunity.

Mortonjag just doesn't buy into the 'people are quick to forget' stuff.

It's a bit like the scenario of some wretched seven year old waif who's been manhandled, mistreated and generally had f*ck battered out of it by the parent who saved it from certain death as an infant. dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 11:25:15
QUOTE(cod gib @ Jan 11 2010, 11:16 AM) [snapback]692996[/snapback]
Wwwwwwhhhhhhhoooooooooosssssssshhhhhhhhh. I will remove it later today as you find it annoying, is there anything in particular that you would like me to change it to ?

Good cod - the Doc has two identities - much is explained! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 11:27:23
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 11 2010, 11:04 AM) [snapback]692989[/snapback]
I was reading that instead of getting paid to treat illnesses that Doctors in a trial were getting paid to concentrate on keeping folk healthy and the more healthy the patient the better they were paid and this produced a significant effect on the amount of illnesses the patient came to be treated by the patient. What about that role reversal. Seems sometimes we look for the cure rather than prevention of alot of illnesses. What is your view on that Doc?

If folk all became healthy there would be no work for medics! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 11:38:35
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 11 2010, 11:25 AM) [snapback]693001[/snapback]
Great for who? The Board cause they are struggling?
As for Mj not attending the agm he would have got the same old spin? The folk at the agm were told that the youth get passed on for nowt. Absolutely zero. So we should pass on the assets to good old Morton die hard Douglas rae for nothing because why? Crazy stuff? We pass on potential assets to a guy that bought Templeman for £100 grand and has over eight years in my opinion failed to reach his targets. Yip we have progressed but lets not kid ourselfs the long term plan was not to be in this position after eight years and why the long term plan did not include a youth set up from the beginning beggars belief. But now we have to fork out r bail out the The Board so that Dougie can carry on Cappielow. If he canny afford to keep forking out this means that he is wide open to bids which already HAVE happened but didn't find acceptable. He might find them acceptable if the heat goes on him without funding for fulltime players and no youth system. The Trust would see the shares plummet so it makes sense for them to make the club a big assett cos they would lose out in a buy out of the club. Why doesn't Douglas just finance his club instead of asking the punters to do it?

Because he believes they owe him big style and anyway he's skint, and in a huge cream puff because somebody stole his microphone without which his rallying calls cannot effectively be made, and even Crawford has stopped bending over meekly for the ritual pink bottie scud despite Daddie's having a new stick, and the sugar plum fairies of Feart Matilda no longer curtsy in deference when his name is mentioned, and Mortonjag predicts that the Rev Dave will soon be fired as prayers are just not being answered.



mortonjag 2010-01-11 11:42:22
QUOTE(cod gib @ Jan 11 2010, 11:10 AM) [snapback]692992[/snapback]
Feeble, very feeble. Just as I expected though.



QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 11 2010, 11:36 AM) [snapback]693006[/snapback]
I'm a wee bit sceptical about the 'See Me' campaign. Not convinced it takes mental health in the right direction but am more than willing to listen.

I think Douglas's original post was a good one (I'm presuming he has the permission of 'Babs' to post this). The problem is getting people to open up about mental health issues. I am always prepared to speak on a one to one basis with people but certainly would not be prepared to post anything on here so the problem remains hidden to a huge extent.
The governments backing of the pharmaceutical industry regarding mental health sickens me. The umbrella term 'depression' is also not helpful as most of what is classed as such isn't. Anti-depressants should not the first course of action in my opinion although Douglas may disagree and obviously he has the bragging rights on experience.
There are links to the 'booze' thread here. I've read about 'The Fear' after drinking too much a lot on here. What do people think 'The Fear' is?

Anyway, I don't think anyone will open up much but it's good to have people talking about it.

Your assumption is accurate Peter. smile.gif

It is surely good to have people talking about mental illness. I emailed Babs last night and updated her on her celebrity status on our wee pubic massage board - I'd forgotten that she is slightly of the Cellic persuasion but she wishes the Ton aw ra best anyway. Says she's pretty stable right now and the music's coming on well.
mortonjag 2010-01-11 11:43:12
QUOTE(cod gib @ Jan 11 2010, 11:10 AM) [snapback]692992[/snapback]
Feeble, very feeble. Just as I expected though.

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mortonjag 2010-01-11 11:56:42
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 11 2010, 11:55 AM) [snapback]693016[/snapback]
If you are going to correct my spelling and grammar you will be following me all day. wink.gif

Hurt to the quick.

Your quick - a painful spot usually under a toenail!

Happy to assist! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 12:10:16
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 11 2010, 12:00 PM) [snapback]693019[/snapback]
She supports the Cellic? Is that good for her Doc? laugh.gif Did she get that prescribed to her on the NHS.
I can see it now yes Barbera you have all the symptoms I am afraid so i am gonna write out a course of treatment. A season ticket at Parkhead which you should use regularly
and take a big glass of water with it.
Cappielow I presume would be no good as it would cause to much stress and worry. laugh.gif
Good on ye Babs and music is great for the soul in my humble opinion.

She's not really into football - I was more referring to her answer if asked 'Which school did you attend'? blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 12:16:14
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 11 2010, 12:12 PM) [snapback]693023[/snapback]
I think it is pretty good. It has as Mj said open up people talking about mental health isuues and makes it less of the taboo it was only 30 years ago. Guys like Neil Lennon just could not have talked about having depression in the 60s their career would have been effectively over. Loads of people are in denial about having the symptoms and hide it with alcohol,drugs etc

As for your views on the umberella term "Depression" who cares what the medical terminology is called. If the person wants to call it Depression or "The Fear" or whatever and it helps them cope or open up about mental health then so what? The label doesn't mean anything.
Wrongly terming it something which they feel (the patient) comfortable with is ok by me.
Calling it "depression" can be self protecting to bullying and being stigmatised and even helps the patient cope. It still happens today unfortunately that people with depresion and other mental health problems are labelled, stereotyped and bullied because of an illness they have.

Precisely. Prejudice is still rife. I was recently chatting with my psychiatrist friend about depression, and she reckons that clinically diagnosed illness (not just folk being down in the dumps) is on the increase. sad.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 12:17:55
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 11 2010, 12:07 PM) [snapback]693021[/snapback]
You to. It's good to see i have the spelling and grammar police following me now. rolleyes.gif

NO - you misunderstand.

'Your quick' is an acceptable phrase in the English language.
mortonjag 2010-01-11 12:19:47
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jan 11 2010, 12:15 PM) [snapback]693025[/snapback]
A few zaps in the hypothalamus (whilst in the cellar ph34r.gif) should resolve this issue wink.gif.

With more than 10 billion neurons in the brain there are always possibilities of developing "hard-wiring" issues. The central nervous system is perhaps the most complex area and yet people can be quite dismissive of mentalists biggrin.gif.

Those who demean the mentally ill are f*ckin' nutters.
mortonjag 2010-01-11 12:21:34
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 11 2010, 12:20 PM) [snapback]693031[/snapback]
I know Doc. On the subject of "what school did you attend" amazingly there was a famous social study that concluded that Protestants are more likely to commit suicide than Catholics apparently because Caholics were more likely to feel more unified with their fellow church goer when participating in unified prayers etc than a protestant in the study who were more likely to feel isolated and prayed on their own more often. Strange but true.

Obviously not conducted during 'Nine in a row'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 12:23:01 How's the Ton's planning permission for erecting the new stand progressing?
mortonjag 2010-01-11 12:24:13
QUOTE(Deficon @ Jan 11 2010, 12:22 PM) [snapback]693033[/snapback]
Gifthorse - Mouth

Money - drain
mortonjag 2010-01-11 12:32:37
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 11 2010, 12:26 PM) [snapback]693037[/snapback]
Good post. My loathing of the term 'depression' ismy own. A better term would be 'a depression'. This is not semantics on my part but I genuinely believe that. Guys like Lennon can help a lot and Marcus Trescothick has been very vocal in campaigns on mental health.
I dislike psychiatry. Drug peddlers in my book who view the human condition in a very black and white way. As a nation we should be training therapists rather than psychiatrists.

Therapy still lags miles behind drug treatment in psychotic illness, Peter.

In general, however, you are quite correct. In simplistic terms 'nutters' fall into two categories: psychotics who believe that two and two make five, and neurotics who know that they make four but worry about it! The latter benefit little from psychiatric intervention.
mortonjag 2010-01-11 12:36:21
QUOTE(Largs @ Jan 11 2010, 12:30 PM) [snapback]693041[/snapback]
There is no Youth Academy or will be in the near future. All good intentions e.g. Malky Thomson set up to lead it ( as per the Greenock Telegraph ) but all has gone quiet since then. Looks to me like it has died and no one who knows anything about it wants to talk. So where does all the " fans money go now ?

That is a genuine worry.

QUOTE(irnbru @ Jan 11 2010, 12:31 PM) [snapback]693042[/snapback]
Maybe I'm misreading you completely here but what club will pay a substansial fee for a player who has never played league football? I dont think there will be many teams willing to pay millions for a guy they have only seen training with an academy. What you seem to be suggesting sound more like a glorified youth team.

Every player from pub league to proffesional has to be registered with a team or someone else can just sign them anyway. If ran as an independant academy what league would this team play in order to be able to register players? The local Sunday league? For a player to have any value they must also have a contract as this is what is bought out so it makes sense for the registration to be held by a proffesional club as both the contract and registration have to be held by the same party. The teams are also then able to play in the SFL/ SPL youth leagues.

I seriously doubt an independant academy would work anyway otherwise there would already be loads already set up across the world. The one below is one of the only examples I can find and its not exactly had million pound bids being made for its players (albiet the academy having slightly different aims).

http://www.glennhoddleacademy.com/glenns_dream.html

Morton should be making donations to the set up proposed but I'd imagine this cant be an official percentage of transfer fees or anything like that as it may affect the charity status of the youth academy and therefore any grants, etc that may be given otherwise.

..so it might be best if the Club was the main sponsor?
mortonjag 2010-01-11 12:43:15
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 11 2010, 12:37 PM) [snapback]693047[/snapback]
I agree Douglas however I would think the power of the drug companies might have something to do with this.

Drug companies surely don't cause short circuitry within the cranium, Peter. I remember you recently used the term 'Talking therapies' and those undoubtedly help where the client's brain circuitry is essentially intact, but it's more difficult to 'tell' nerotransmitters that they're being naughty boys.
mortonjag 2010-01-11 13:31:44
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 11 2010, 12:50 PM) [snapback]693057[/snapback]
I agree however I believe that only a very small amount fall into your former catagory and that most 'depression' is in fact 'a depression' caused by factors that are real in the lives of sufferers: for example, a bereavement, redundancy or indeed struggling over ones sexuality.

Yes indeed Peter, but depression is only part of mental illness. While psychotic depression (normally manifested as Bi-polar illness) is small within the 'depression' category, the other major psychoses (schizophrenia in particular) are rarely amenable to having sense talked into them.
mortonjag 2010-01-11 13:34:13
QUOTE(EBu @ Jan 11 2010, 12:52 PM) [snapback]693058[/snapback]
1. Radio DJ's

blink.gif2. Arseholes that drive at 50mph on the motorways or 30 mph on country roads taht dont pull in to let you pass

3. Text speak

HGV drivers included?
mortonjag 2010-01-11 13:36:32
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 11 2010, 01:18 PM) [snapback]693073[/snapback]
See sometimes right, there's no way that anything that was to get stuck up my exhaust is coming out looking like anything other than an enthusiastically dunked Choc Dip biscuit, because there's a load of brown babies hanging around the exit door who aren't quite ready to hit the pool. So, if I was a bit fruity and let other guys send the one eyed snake searching for brown gold then surely it would come back out covered in jobby? At the very least there'd be bits of corn or a rogue peanut wedged under the pink hoody. I don't understand how they would get round that.

Saying that, it's not just gay men who'd have that problem I suppose which is why I've never understood the appeal of plundering a lady's brown star. Pink only please.

Racist! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 13:39:12
QUOTE(irnbru @ Jan 11 2010, 01:34 PM) [snapback]693087[/snapback]
So you want to start a youth/ amateur team to show Dougie what he's missing? A team that would not be allowed to sign anyone on professional contacts and therefore have nothing to sell on? What would this team have thats more attractive to players than any other youth, junior or pub team?

Ok Rae should be investing, no one is disputing that, but he isn't. Your coming across like a spoilt wee boy who cant see the greater good for us as a club. Dougie ain't going to be around for ever but this set up would and would also support the club as well without being a drain on resources. Make no mistake if Dougie were to set this up and pay for it and someone else came along later and had to cut costs for whatever reason the youth set up would be first to go. This wouldn't be the case with this. There are a lot of other benefits from running a seperate sytem as well that I mentioned earlier:
Again I'm not saying Rae shouldn't be investing but he isn't and we have to accept that although, like I said earlier, he could 'donate' which would be unofficial and allow for grants to be recieved (this is part of the reason it would be a registered charity - a registered company wouldn't be as eligable as a charity) so it may be best to have a seperate organisation to look after things.

Wouldn't it show in the audited annual accounts? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 14:03:08
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 11 2010, 01:56 PM) [snapback]693100[/snapback]
4 bags of humbugs would be well spread out.
I answered his post with a question, am I still included in the gloss over. My question was conveniently ignored by all.

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You mean the bit about the Ton being almost a million in the black? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 14:06:36
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 11 2010, 01:56 PM) [snapback]693099[/snapback]
My first ex-wife is a psychiatrist and she is firmly of the opinion that cannabis use and schizophrenia are closely correlated. I don't know if cannabis use is a cause of schizophrenia or if those with schizophrenia are more prone to use cannabis (i.e which one is the cause and which the effect) but she reckons there is a link.

I find I suffer from a particular strain of reactive depression, triggered by hearing the words "Morton nil".

Are you saving them up? unsure.gif

Acute (psychotic) paranoia related to cannabis abuse is now well documented but is a relatively recent phenomenon.
mortonjag 2010-01-11 14:09:25
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 11 2010, 02:06 PM) [snapback]693108[/snapback]
Yip, double checked my passport there and my initials are stil MT. tongue.gif

Mohammed Tariq?
mortonjag 2010-01-11 14:12:46
QUOTE(EBu @ Jan 11 2010, 01:50 PM) [snapback]693096[/snapback]
Depends if they are driving an HGV or a car at the time. wink.gif

I should maybe change it to car drivers that do less than 50 mph on the motorways.

I know where you are coming from, but rather than actual speed on motorways (well at least on three lane or more motorways) my pet hate is bad lane discipline. In my opinion that (and being incapable of using slip roads properly) causes far more congestion than an 'inside' lane of relatively slow vehicles.
mortonjag 2010-01-11 14:41:31
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Jan 11 2010, 02:38 PM) [snapback]693125[/snapback]

Which?
mortonjag 2010-01-11 14:43:52
QUOTE(EBu @ Jan 11 2010, 02:30 PM) [snapback]693119[/snapback]
Its more of a safety thing than anything. I just think if you cant do the speed limit you shouldn't be on the motorway.

I agree about bad lane discipline, the junction at Erskine heading towards Glasgow from Greenock is a joke, everyone is so desperate to get to the outside lane as quickly as possible they dont care who they cut off.

That's a bit controversial! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 14:45:28 The biggest problem around here at the moment is pot holes. Is Inverclyde the same?
mortonjag 2010-01-11 14:52:45
QUOTE(irnbru @ Jan 11 2010, 02:50 PM) [snapback]693133[/snapback]
I'm not sure what your getting at here - you're either really blinkered or dont understand this concept at all.

The 'charity' would be set up purely to serve Morton who would hold the players registrations.

If they are not good enough they get released like any other youth set up would do.

The youth academy would not effect share prices as it is a completely seperate business despite being set up to serve Morton FC.

As it is a charity no club can buy a player or it would be a profit driven organisation. The talk of donations is merely a loophole that Morton would be able to exploit in order to support the 'charity' set up for them.

Basically this set up is for Morton NOT Dougie Rae and will allow for stability in this area no matter what the clubs fortunes are or who is the owner while still being eligable for funding from outside sources.

There is a difference?
mortonjag 2010-01-11 14:56:22
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Jan 11 2010, 02:50 PM) [snapback]693135[/snapback]
Ryan McGuffie has been much improved this season. All of this talk about him not showing effort and being a passenger is old news by this point. I'd be sad to see him go.

As for Finlayson, it's blatantly obvious that his delivery has improved. So has JM's actually. The Partick game seen them throw a few crackers in and nobody got on the end of them. No point wanting them to put in dangerous crosses when there's nobody there to take them.

That's undeniable, but neither is exactly setting the heather alight with tantalising crosses. Getting the ball into the box is a big improvement.

Next task - lifting your head before you cross and trying to give one of your forwards an even chance of connecting!
mortonjag 2010-01-11 14:59:21
QUOTE(irnbru @ Jan 11 2010, 02:54 PM) [snapback]693139[/snapback]
Well as much as he'd probably like to think he's not going to live forever and the club will no doubt change hands at some point in the future.

Very true. It's the distance to that point which concerns me.
mortonjag 2010-01-11 16:37:38
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 11 2010, 03:19 PM) [snapback]693148[/snapback]
Yes and again a very small number compared to the amount of people being told 'you've got depression take some of these'.

Hmm - perhaps things have changed in the last few years, but clinical depression was notoriously underdiagnosed last time I checked! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 16:40:14
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 11 2010, 03:13 PM) [snapback]693147[/snapback]
There's a difference between being higher than a safe limit and being at an alcoholic level. The idea that Brits cannot physically drink more alcohol is just bizarre.

Social problems - police: more than enough existing laws (breach of the peace, assault etc)
Health problems - NHS (which receives tax money from alcohol duties)
Prevention - education, which the figures indicate is actually working

All of this without allowing the government to dictate how much a legal substance should be sold at. It is for the market to decide, much in the same way as lard isn't set at a minimum price.

The idea that tyre regulations = social intervention is just bonkers, if you don't have tyre tread you skid off the road, crash, and very likely take someone else with you. That is entirely different to a person's individual responsibility with alcohol. And for the rest, government legislation has been slight. There is simply no comparison.

It is a question of personal responsibility.

For those who have the ability to exercise such.
mortonjag 2010-01-11 16:45:05
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 11 2010, 04:43 PM) [snapback]693239[/snapback]
What I'm meaning is it would be helpful if they separated illnesses like schizophrenia from 'clinical depression'. I think the overwhelming majority who present with 'depression' are not psychotic but again, you have the experience in the field.

Namely?
mortonjag 2010-01-11 16:47:28
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 11 2010, 03:59 PM) [snapback]693183[/snapback]
I hope he does live forever as the thought of the gushing grief that will inevitably envelop this site will be enough to throw the laptop right out the window.

I can truthfully say in advance that I shall be unmoved when he goes, though possibly on account of predeceasement. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 17:54:25
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 11 2010, 04:20 PM) [snapback]693215[/snapback]
Are there a lot of GA 4th year pupils who are parents?



QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 11 2010, 05:51 PM) [snapback]693267[/snapback]
For the record, with our debt-equity scheme I believe GMFC is technically solvent, particularly with the amount of land assets the club possesses.
Though as we are yet to be pursued by an employer for breach of contract in court, we are yet to see a judge's analysis.

This is despite Hamilton bringing through a freak crop of young players (Easton, McCarthy and McArthur) that most youth systems simply will not yield. Saint Mirren are a far more sustainable club to look at regarding the playing side being strong enough while still breaking even/recording profit, and have a half-decent youth setup too.

Then again, its in the chairman's interests to run Morton at a loss.

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mortonjag 2010-01-11 18:02:58
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 11 2010, 04:44 PM) [snapback]693240[/snapback]
See the sea, i love the sea me

I wub.gif the c2
mortonjag 2010-01-11 18:16:50
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jan 11 2010, 06:09 PM) [snapback]693277[/snapback]
AWWW that hurts crying.gif , well it would be if you weren't wrong again laugh.gif laugh.gif crane driver ?? where do you get that from ? I'm a crane operator not a crane driver, two separate jobs. Making s*** up about me to disguise the fact that your pissed off that you ****ed up really shows how shallow and ill informed you are. Keep digging, you will find something on me eventually. Try asking me, i have nothing to hide.

Ghost, Bobcat mainly, i was based in Antrim and Enniskillen but spent most my time at XMG doing the border crossing, usually on a daily basis.

Would you like to explain that statement, as I don't know what you are talking about? I remember you blabbing on a while ago about 'having talked to a real doctor about something etc'. I got the impression that you were suggesting that in some way I'd been professionally remiss. I'm giving you the opportunity to clarify the issue, whereupon I may promote you to the lofty position of crane OPERATOR - bloody hell - how many Oxbridge firsts does it take to press a couple of buttons? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 18:21:46
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 11 2010, 06:10 PM) [snapback]693279[/snapback]
dvz is a decent enough player but quality dripping off him? huh.gif

In relative terms - aye.
mortonjag 2010-01-11 18:28:24
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 11 2010, 06:20 PM) [snapback]693287[/snapback]
Who is that helpful to ? People who are told they are depressed but think that means they are schizophrenic or schizophrenics who think they are depressed or the general public who do not see one set with mental health problems in people as one stereotype or see another branch of mental health problems as another stereotype.

I agree that with say mild depression or anxiety that tablets are not the only answer. Mental health conditions should be treated just like heart conditions. Do people react differently to one heart condition in a person to another more serious one in another patient. Its the stigma attached and the bullying etc that ALL mental health unfortunately conditions can attract and no matter whether we give them different names I feel some serious ones should be still seen as an illness and treated with the same respect as your less serious and far more common every day mental health illnesses.

One of the saddest aspects of (often quite severe) clinical depression is that friends relatives and workmates, and indeed sometimes the patient do not realise that there's anything wrong.

People say I'm the life of the party
Cause I tell a joke or two
Although I might be laughing loud and hearty
Deep inside I'm blue
So take a good look at my face
You'll see my smile looks out of place
Just look closer, it's easy to trace
The tracks of my tears. sad.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 19:05:49
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 11 2010, 06:14 PM) [snapback]693283[/snapback]
i still don't see how it's in his best interests to run us at a loss. i thought you were alluding to tax incentives or something.

Wee Dougie has always gone to inordinate lengths to keep his favourite toy all to himself - nobody else is even allowed a shot. Another boy once came into the playground and after handing out sweeties and his bully of ten conker to Shoogly, the latter thought he was a 'soft touch' and offered to sell him his prize possession for all the tea in China! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 19:07:38
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 11 2010, 07:03 PM) [snapback]693302[/snapback]
Well it has been very icy lately.

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mortonjag 2010-01-11 19:15:00
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jan 11 2010, 07:09 PM) [snapback]693306[/snapback]
Source? Course not, you're talking p*sh as usual. laugh.gif

No Smiffy, Mortonjag never talks p*sh, and anyway Smiffy what would you know about it -were you in the playground keeking out from under Miss Donaldson's skirt? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 19:43:26
QUOTE(.:BrIDo:. @ Jan 11 2010, 07:22 PM) [snapback]693315[/snapback]
The call for more laws isn't about tackling drunk folk, but for laws to be put in place to discourage people from getting into that state to begin with. The NHS receives money from the tax on alcohol - does that mean it's balancing the books then?

I concede that it's better for the consumer when the market drives prices down competitively, but in Scotland the culture we have doesn't lead to having a few bevvies and saving money, it leads to spending the money you would anyway but on MORE drink.

The reason you have to change your tyres is because it's dangerous to drive when they're below minimum tread depth. Is it not dangerous to spend a lifetime abusing alcohol?

The point VT has been trying to drive home is that irrespective of the price of alcohol people will still have the right to decide how much they buy. I question the morality of proposed legislation which in theory at least will make it fine to 'get oot yer face' if you're well heeled. What a stupid and socially divisive proposition.

To put it differently, there is little point in telling weans that Tesco jeans are just as good as designer gear five times the price -if they want that label they'll pay to get it - street cred/getting smashed - either or, the end will justify the means even if relative impecunity results in law breaking or skimping on necessities.
mortonjag 2010-01-11 20:30:42
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jan 11 2010, 08:07 PM) [snapback]693328[/snapback]
Doesn't take any, but i am happy doing what i do. Us uneducated ones can still contribute to society by helping to build the buildings that you work/ live in, the shops that you shop in, the power stations that supply all your power, the road system that you travel on etc etc... I can drive through this great country and point out a whole host of landmarks that i have helped to build, it makes me proud to see my achievements on our landscape, even though i never studied at university i have helped build a few tongue.gif

I respect that, and I respect anybody who gets satisfaction from doing an honest day's work.

As for Universities, and academic snobbery I find much of that sad and laughable, and I really meant what I said when I started this thread.

I do not, however, respect folk who accuse me of professional impropriety without substantiation. Perhaps your comments were intended to be merely provocative or jocular - it would be good to know whether or not that was the case. smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 20:36:05
QUOTE(shimmin1874 @ Jan 11 2010, 08:10 PM) [snapback]693329[/snapback]
In todays tele he said that walker is going on loan

1. Can bounce games not be arranged
2. Walker is 1 of the better defenders

I'm in two minds about that. Alex is an attacking midfielder and we've arguably got enough of those (does anybody remember his cracking shot at goal against the Midden way back?). He's been made a gopher ever since the early days of JM - always having to fit in, and IMO always doing a pretty good job. Maybe a loan spell will be good for his career.
mortonjag 2010-01-11 20:46:09
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 11 2010, 08:29 PM) [snapback]693336[/snapback]
Never mind Bawheid, you've always got your 'big team' to fall back on when times are hard.

...and you've got your wee chaise longue to rest your weary Brussels pate on.
mortonjag 2010-01-11 20:52:04
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jan 11 2010, 08:41 PM) [snapback]693345[/snapback]
He's not really an attacking midfielder though is he? he played a handful of games there when he arrived and was really really bad. He is however one of the best defenders we have. With DVZ away we need him fit and playing. How longs the loan for? id prefer we get him fit at the club and get him back to left back as soon as possible with Reid crossing the pitch to take DVZ's berth.

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I believe he is. He was signed as such. He's not a central defender for sure because heading is not a strong point, and although he's played reasonably well in both full back slots he doesn't have the pace for a tricky winger. I don't believe he ever got the chance you claim - don't forget that we had Midge, Jamie, McLaughlin, Gowser etc around that time.
mortonjag 2010-01-11 20:54:59
QUOTE(EBu @ Jan 11 2010, 08:31 PM) [snapback]693340[/snapback]
Ach, they should all be lined up on the hard shoulder and shot. In the knee caps.

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Even the blonde dolly birds in the convertible VW beetles? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 21:00:40
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 11 2010, 08:53 PM) [snapback]693355[/snapback]
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What's so funny about wee Alex being an attacking midfielder Ratarse - I can't help feeling that you'll next be telling me that Jimbo's a left winger because it said so in the audited accounts!
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mortonjag 2010-01-11 21:03:37
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 11 2010, 08:57 PM) [snapback]693358[/snapback]
I wonder what the percentage of well heeled kids v underclass kids is in regard to 'getting oot yer face' when the context is cheap nasty wine, cider and kiddy alcohol (the sugar packet variety).

I don't often see well heeled kids falling about with the thumb stuck in the top of a 2 litre cider bottle.
Maybe they do it with a fine claret instead.

Ach you live a sheltered life Barbie -ask McBam about the antics of those little goody two shoers! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 21:19:12
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jan 11 2010, 09:02 PM) [snapback]693364[/snapback]
Yes, my comments were intended to be merely provocative or jocular. You can now sleep easier tonight, although i still disagree with your comments on child spew. Fannibaws.

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One thing I do every night is sleep like a baby! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 21:24:45
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 11 2010, 09:09 PM) [snapback]693372[/snapback]
When I was young most of the young West End Boys (as they liked to be known) got bladdered on 2 Autumn Golds.

When you were young Thatcher was still in power Barbie! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 21:27:47
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jan 11 2010, 09:24 PM) [snapback]693389[/snapback]
He has yes. What relevance that has to whether or not Walker may be better than him in his position i dont know though.

When McFarlane and Jenks are fit you wont be seeing Erik in the side again anyway.

I reckon that Pantaloons' effectiveness in midfield is underestimated.
mortonjag 2010-01-11 21:29:18
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 11 2010, 09:23 PM) [snapback]693388[/snapback]
So you wake up crying at 3am because you've soiled yourself?

No surprises there.

Yes
mortonjag 2010-01-11 21:41:30
QUOTE(Zutons @ Jan 11 2010, 09:37 PM) [snapback]693408[/snapback]
Ian McCall for Killie
Dave Irons for Partick laugh.gif ph34r.gif

Shoogly for P.M. wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 22:03:21
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jan 11 2010, 09:50 PM) [snapback]693424[/snapback]
Ok a few comments...

We do have the potential to have a wee jaunt in the SPL. Clubs like St Johnstone, Hamilton, Thistle, St Mirren, ICT etc etc have all had a few seasons up there or become established in the last few years. Probably we would have our day in the sun at some point.

However... I think we will struggle with this under the leadership of Rae. Yes, Rae puts in cash but does he get good value for it? Not at all.

Could a better run Morton still maintain a division 1 place when having to break even... probably in the short term this would be possible.

Can Rae attract players to the club without paying over the odds for them? No, and I think this is probably his main failing.

Is the Trust the answer... sadly membership of the trust is nowhere near the level to make this a realistic goal. Obviously if the club was up for sale, interest may increase to a better level but currently I think the supporters trust currently has potential only to be a fringe group.

Does Rae have an exit strategy? Dunno, assume Crawford Rae would take over when Dougie retired.

Would Crawford Rae be any better? Probably, don't know how much though.

If the trust could get 2000 members would they be able to take over and run the club? Probably, but I think without 1 person in charge the club would end up poorly run. You can't run it like a bowling club with a monthly committee meeting and show of hands to make decisions etc. Someone would need to be a full time chairman elected by members to make the day to day decisions.

Could we afford a better Youth Set up with the trust in charge? Dunno, certainly the trust seem committed to a youth set up but really we are starting from zero and probably hundreds of thousands of pounds would need to be thrown at this.

Is there anyone else who could bankroll us and perhaps be more successful than Rae? Dunno. Probably this is what we would need post Rae to make another step to where we could challenge at the top of division 1.

Are we that far away? I don't think we are miles away, and probably our squad size is going to hold us back once we can sort out some problem positions. Certainly seasons like this where someone like Dundee spend a lot of cash and look comfortably ahead of everyone else are going to be less and less common, and looking at next season the league will probably be even tighter.

I don't see us becoming an established SPL club, but once we get the ground sorted it is possible that players will be easier to attract as 'SPL ambition' will no longer just be a phrase banded about. We could certainly emerge from the pack in the few seasons and pinch the league during a tight season to at least have a look at the SPL.

Is the SPL the be all and end all... no, it would be nice to have a go at it, but it would get a bit boring after a while being a smaller fish etc.

No change then?
mortonjag 2010-01-11 22:05:17
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jan 11 2010, 09:48 PM) [snapback]693421[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2010-01-11 22:09:48 Lies, damned lies, and statistics gents.

Raising the price of booze won't stop folk getting smashed if they want to! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 22:15:02
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 11 2010, 10:13 PM) [snapback]693445[/snapback]
Anyone who rates Paartalu higher than McFarlane ought to be sectioned.

Pantaloons would need sectioned to get down to Mcfarlane's level!
mortonjag 2010-01-11 22:19:09 I listened to Johnston being interviewed on BBC Scotland at the weekend. Sounded like a slightly more articulate version of Shoogly! mad.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 22:22:49
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 11 2010, 10:19 PM) [snapback]693453[/snapback]
What are you saying VT that only Rowntrees have the answer. laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2010-01-11 22:24:22
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 11 2010, 10:20 PM) [snapback]693456[/snapback]
Or the old story from France years ago....man walks into the doctors and says 'doctor, I'm feeling really depressed'.'You should go and see Coco the Clown' says the doctor, 'I am Coco the Clown' replies the patient.

Wasn't that Belgium? happy.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 22:25:23
QUOTE(monton @ Jan 11 2010, 10:24 PM) [snapback]693462[/snapback]
How's this for a line up

Ried Shimmin Grecian Walker
Mc Guffie Masterton/Jenks Trialist(MT) Monti
Graham Spoonsy

Nae goalie?
mortonjag 2010-01-11 22:28:09 Pardon my ignorance, but who was he?
mortonjag 2010-01-11 22:29:49
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 11 2010, 10:27 PM) [snapback]693469[/snapback]
Funny, I thought exactly the same thing Douglas.

And we can't both be wrong Peter! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 22:32:57
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jan 11 2010, 10:31 PM) [snapback]693478[/snapback]
I thought it sounded more like how much money he could make for himself, kept on going on about how he had saved the club £200,000 - £300,000 since he started. Also he has not invested any of his own money in the club.

Yip - claimed he wasn't a wealth man and needed the £56,000 he took last year just to get by. Presumably the poor soul has no other source of income.
mortonjag 2010-01-11 22:41:17
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 11 2010, 10:39 PM) [snapback]693493[/snapback]
I think it underlines the perilous state of Scottish football. The product is s***e so the fans are staying away so there's less money in the game.
I think Jeffries has been one of the best managers the Scottish game has seen, the game needs more guys like him and less guys like the chairman.

Jefferies may come across as a dour faced c*nt but his record given the available resources has been impressive.
mortonjag 2010-01-11 22:48:34
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Jan 11 2010, 10:36 PM) [snapback]693488[/snapback]
That's an excellent sig, thanks.
That's two people this week that have changed their sigs on my advice.
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Two rarely quoted facts about Dr Shipman.

1/ He was Jewish

2/ He was an opiate addict from an early age.
mortonjag 2010-01-11 22:50:57
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Jan 11 2010, 10:40 PM) [snapback]693495[/snapback]
Surely as one of Inverclyde's top ranking freemasons he must be an honourable man. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

A methodist freemason who thinks Cellic fans are the bees knees!

G'on yersel' Shoogly! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 22:53:05 Is this some sick joke or has somebody really passed away?
mortonjag 2010-01-11 22:55:23
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 11 2010, 10:48 PM) [snapback]693507[/snapback]
Experts who built the Titanic ?

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Were they not Irish?
mortonjag 2010-01-11 22:56:07
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 11 2010, 10:54 PM) [snapback]693517[/snapback]
mj goes for a whooosh

Wee wee in oor hoose dear!
mortonjag 2010-01-11 23:02:44 It's Dolly Parton's 64th birthday and will be celebrated by a pair of tits in the Directors' box.
mortonjag 2010-01-11 23:04:37
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 11 2010, 11:01 PM) [snapback]693532[/snapback]
It was on a par with Karen Dunbar I thought, really that bad. The Comedy Unit is an embarrassment.

I'm sensing that a real person has not died after all. Thank goodness.
mortonjag 2010-01-11 23:05:54
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 11 2010, 11:03 PM) [snapback]693537[/snapback]
laugh.gif that's the one! we could have t-shirts, lampshades, fridge magnets the lot. even a scarf with one half st mark and the other half the pope

No King Billy? blink.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 23:08:52
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Jan 11 2010, 11:05 PM) [snapback]693540[/snapback]
They're saying whoosh because you didn't watch the new bbc "comedy" sketch show by a guy who goes by the name Limmy, check him out on youtube. He's about as funny as watching your family die in a house fire.

You ain't seen my family! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 23:10:28
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Jan 11 2010, 11:09 PM) [snapback]693551[/snapback]
It was quite an interesting thread but has descended into tedium. Plus ca change.

Most threads ascend to the same level!
mortonjag 2010-01-11 23:11:52
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jan 11 2010, 11:04 PM) [snapback]693538[/snapback]
If Erik's passing wasn't diabolical at times and he even had a bit of composure on the ball then he'd be a very decent option to have, but really we've only seen a modest improvement from him despite a lot of games over the past two seasons.

I don't think he's a lost cause, but McFarlane looked decent against Thistle and reckon Jenks really must start if fit. However I guess Erik is the player who has stayed fit over the past few seasons when Masterton, Jenks and McGuffie have all had quite a few games off.

Erik has had some good games for us, but I think overall he is a back-up player.

As for Walker, he's missed quite a bit of football, obviously with DVZ away he'd probably be in the team if fit, but he's not fully fit so why have him struggle in what Grady see's as a key position?

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mortonjag 2010-01-11 23:14:31
QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Jan 11 2010, 11:11 PM) [snapback]693554[/snapback]
i hope that was a joke

i hate him with a passion
he comes near cappielow i wont be back

same as when he was linked with scotland job i wouldnt have renewed my scotland membership.

Have you met him?
mortonjag 2010-01-11 23:20:23
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Jan 11 2010, 11:15 PM) [snapback]693561[/snapback]
Think you missed my point bigcod changed his immac conception sig in honour of me. laugh.gif

You are Harold Shipman -you fly old c*nt - how did you wangle the suicide bit - oh and fancy a trip to my cellar - I have a few tricks to teach you! We can't have you letting the profession down by getting caught a second time.
mortonjag 2010-01-11 23:22:38
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 11 2010, 11:21 PM) [snapback]693570[/snapback]
So, how bad an omen will it be if the match is postponed on January 19 ?

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Depends how late in the day!
mortonjag 2010-01-11 23:33:36
QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Jan 11 2010, 11:27 PM) [snapback]693579[/snapback]
Thankfully No

Hmm -strange that you should so detest somebody you've never met. I was at a conference at Rugby Park some years ago and we briefly met Mr Jefferies - he indeed did come across as a sour faced misery guts - but he's still a good manager! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 23:37:16
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Jan 11 2010, 11:30 PM) [snapback]693582[/snapback]
Newton's don't get that far. laugh.gif

In fairness to Newt, they have a long way to travel.
mortonjag 2010-01-11 23:38:26
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Jan 11 2010, 11:35 PM) [snapback]693587[/snapback]
I fully end on being tanked up and vociferous by the time I get to the game, remember the inevitable victory forever and ever and then get rubbered so completely that I don't remember getting home.

Can't wait. happy.gif

Hopefully they won't implement the minimum pricing before them! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-11 23:41:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 11 2010, 11:38 PM) [snapback]693590[/snapback]
And they have to travel up hill.

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Straight to the point - no circumnavigation! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 00:02:25 If this guy is to be believed!
mortonjag 2010-01-12 00:05:00
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 11 2010, 11:56 PM) [snapback]693594[/snapback]
Are wee diddies better than big diddies ?

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It's what you do with them that counts! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 00:06:47
QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Jan 12 2010, 12:04 AM) [snapback]693599[/snapback]
I dislike Jim Jeffries, you clearly have a problem with douglas rae.

everyone is entitled to their opinion at the end of the day.

What ever makes you say that? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 00:07:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 12 2010, 12:00 AM) [snapback]693595[/snapback]
nor circumlocution.

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circumcision? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 00:09:52 laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 00:11:48
QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Jan 12 2010, 12:09 AM) [snapback]693611[/snapback]
just a hunch rolleyes.gif

Never trust hunches - Quasimodo was a wee c*nt!
mortonjag 2010-01-12 00:12:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 12 2010, 12:09 AM) [snapback]693610[/snapback]
Goodness - you get your paper delivered very early.

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The delivery boy frequents my cellar! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 00:14:01
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 12 2010, 12:12 AM) [snapback]693615[/snapback]
I just had to Ernie smile.gif

Your welcum! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 00:16:14
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 12 2010, 12:13 AM) [snapback]693618[/snapback]
naw - circumvention.

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circumspection - the study of obesity?
mortonjag 2010-01-12 00:17:33
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 12 2010, 12:16 AM) [snapback]693623[/snapback]
And McDonald out also for a couple of weeks, just gets better blush.gif

I'm trying to establish who McGeady's G.P. is! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 00:23:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 12 2010, 12:22 AM) [snapback]693627[/snapback]
Wot treatment are you proposing ?

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Swine flu jab.
mortonjag 2010-01-12 00:24:25
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 12 2010, 12:23 AM) [snapback]693628[/snapback]
Don't they have delivery girls in the 2010s ?

I stitched on a penis.
mortonjag 2010-01-12 00:35:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 12 2010, 12:32 AM) [snapback]693634[/snapback]
That was a mistake, MJ.

Too much ambiguity ?

DIY surgery ?

We'll see what posts the morning brings.

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I always have spare tools lying about the cellar Newt - seemed a good idea at the time.
mortonjag 2010-01-12 00:44:14
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Jan 12 2010, 12:42 AM) [snapback]693640[/snapback]
We all know that, now answer Newt's question about paper girls.

Yes yes -Puggs is my paper girl! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 07:40:43
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jan 12 2010, 01:33 AM) [snapback]693655[/snapback]
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Do you smoke crack this time every day?

His crack smokes after a dose of Delhi Belly.
mortonjag 2010-01-12 08:11:47
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 12 2010, 01:43 AM) [snapback]693657[/snapback]
No, he should have sacked him in March 2004, and there's a chance we would have gone up.

We've never been as big as the likes of Aberdeen and we never will be. The likes of Hamilton however, well if Rae had showed the slightest bit of interest in a youth system and put plans in place for it when he took over, we could be at the level they're at just now. That's the only way forward, invest in a youth system and wait for the rewards to come. In the not too distant past we produced two Scotland internationals in Hopkin and McInnes, plus the likes of Lilley, Collins and Mahood. We get back to producing players like that, we won't be spunking absurd transfer fees on Second Division players, we'll have a good team and we'll able to live within our means through selling players on. It'll take patience and we'll just have to hope we can survive in the First Division in the meantime, but it's the only way for Morton to progress IMO.

Not just Hamilton - here's a task for you and anybody else who gives a toss - I challenge you to name the SIX clubs in the whole of Scotland with a potential greater than that of Greenock Morton and Inverclyde. That's all there are and I know this is simplistic, but I say that by rights we SHOULD be playing in the SPL, AND NOW.

It may seem unfair to slate Douglas Rae when it's only a relatively short time since he apparently saved us from certain death, but it's not difficult to recall the ectasy of that day when we beat Peterhead for the Third Division Championship before ALMOST 8000 fans!

If Mr Rae had sat back that summer -rightfully master of all he surveyed at Greenock Morton - and realised that already in his early seventies and with a successful business to run, he should delegate the future of the Club to a 'hands on' football executive, I believe that the money he's made available would MOST CERTAINLY now have us in the SPL.

The thread title saddens me. Can Morton ever be a force again? It reeks of apathy and of the sense of despair which now pervades Cappielow - football should be fun and should draw fans together - that doesn't apply to us those days.

I'm accused of having 'a problem' with Mr. Rae, but the truth is that you all have the same problem - it's just that I'm willing to say what I feel. What was so good and attractive after that Peterhead game has become a sad shambles owned and ruled by an ageing man who has completely lost his sense of direction.

When he goes we may move ahead if too much damage has not already been done. I sincerely hope that in Morton terms he goes soon.
mortonjag 2010-01-12 09:42:14
QUOTE(D1pst1ck @ Jan 12 2010, 04:59 AM) [snapback]693666[/snapback]
Tried to log in earlier (as Despot) and was astounded to see my posting right have been suspended until 18th March 2010 !!! I can only assume I've been banned for replying to the the thread describing my family as inbreds which was removed by the moderators. Wonder if I'm the only one "suspended" ??

I've thought long & hard whether to post this, but decided enough was enough.
I'm sick of the posts telling my husband (Bawheid) to go back to his "other big team" or "take his inbred family back to Ibrox"
For those who don't know him, he is a Morton fan FIRST AND FOREMOST.
Yes, he goes to Ibrox BECAUSE I have a season ticket BUT I am chronically ill. I suffer COPD and am on a home nebuliser up to 4 times daily as well as other medications.
The seriousness of my illness means I can be 30 minutes from needing to get emergency treatment at a resuscitation unit in hospital (no doubt some of you will require proof of this)
Rangers are MY team not Bawheids, but he attends the home games with me becuase he WOULDN'T put that burden of care and reponsibility on our daughters, or any other family member - NOT because he supports Rangers.
He doesn't get to watch Morton very often because of my health, but attends games when he can.
He is MY BIGGEST SUPPORTER
He does all of this while running his own business AND running a free Art Class for the Unemployed, Disabled & Pensioners in our area.
You should think before you post comments.

What was the reason for your suspension? I certainly don't think folk should be describing your family as 'inbreds' without legitimate proof, and now that you've clarified the situation I hope Bawheid will be allowed to get on with being a Morton supporter.
mortonjag 2010-01-12 09:48:46
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 12 2010, 09:40 AM) [snapback]693702[/snapback]
Measured on similar criteria, so are Morton. Hamilton owe their chairman and can't pay it back. Ignore that debt and they are solvent!

Sound familiar?

On the whole question of the leadership of the club, I accept the premise that in many respects it could (and should?) be better run. What I cannot get my head around re the DDFR must go brigade is

1) If he is not around how will we fund our annual losses of the order of £3-400,000?
2) Is there a friendly multi millionaire waiting on the wings to swoop in and invest?

I accept many of the arguments for change. I just do not obviously see how it can be made to happen, even if DDFR was willing to sell.

On the topic of youth development, we should have spent on this years ago and we have plenty of lessons from history of our own club, never mind others to show how profitable it can be both in terms of the team and the club's finances. Unfortunately, it is also an expensive business. Hamilton reputedly spend £250k+ per annum on their setup and whilst they have recouped that from McCarthy and might get more for MacArthur, its not yet obvious in their first team that there is a conveyor belt of similar players coming through.

For me, Hibs and Aberdeen are the clubs to look at as role models. Hibs in particular have had a huge number of good players come through, many of whom have produced big money transfers for the club. Aberdeen regular have teenagers playing first team football and have a scouting system that scours Scotland for players - look at the number of Greenock boys who end up there.

If DDFR wants to leave the club a legacy, a vibrant and active youth setup would be the best he could do.

He has repeatedly said that he has knocked back offers for the club, and most recently frightened of a well intentioned multi-millionaire.
mortonjag 2010-01-12 10:05:13
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 12 2010, 09:53 AM) [snapback]693709[/snapback]
I make it seven - I think you have to include both Dundee teams. There are a couple more who have been bigger than us all the time I have been supporting Morton - Kilmarnock for example - but your general premise is right.

Douglas Rae could have made a better fist of what he has invested in the club but the Morton malaise is far, far older. It really goes back to the board at the time of the Benny Rooney/Andy Ritchie era who refused to go fulltime when we clearly had the potential. We could have been a Motherwell - essentially an SPL fixture with, by this time, a fully developed Cappielow or alternative home!

We are, as they say, where we are and I still struggle to see the answer!

It matters not - we're never as big as both Dundee teams together but given that one always eclipses the other I excluded (at the moment) Dundee. We've argued the Kilmarnock point before. I still assert that our potential fan base is greater.

I agree about the struggle to see an answer as things stand, but don't understand your remarks about the pre-Rae era. That Peterhead game was an excellent starting block, and Mr Rae has now spent a significant sum of money getting not very far. Even a rudimentary youth initiative then could be reaping dividends now, and of course the size of the fan base also reflects the size of the youth potential in the area (as compared to Hamilton for example).

I've said time after time that Douglas Rae is entitled to enjoy the rest of his years owning and supporting Morton, but only if he is willing to entrust the running of the club to somebody of vision. Either that or the downward spiral will continue.
mortonjag 2010-01-12 10:08:40
QUOTE(Toby @ Jan 12 2010, 09:50 AM) [snapback]693707[/snapback]
"Off" dry.gif .

What did they teach in proper universities back in your day?

I learned my spelling in a proper Primary School. Off coarse ewe no phat! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 10:12:11
QUOTE(Deano1874 @ Jan 12 2010, 10:04 AM) [snapback]693714[/snapback]
Stewart

Reid Greacen Shimmin New

McGuffie Jenkins Paartalu Monti

Russell Weatherson


Stewart in goal, been in good form since Irons ****ed off.

Reid back over to the right side with the new trialist playing at the left side.

Drop both wide players as they are both playing s***e at the moment and I think McAlister could do with a wee reality check. McGuffie and Monti not my ideal candidates but the best we can do just now.

A half fit MacFarlane is no good to us, as we seen at Partick, keep him in the bounce games and give Paartalu a chance to hold the shirt he has earned in the past few weeks. Jenks back in depending on fitness.

Weatherson tried hard at Partick but the end product was lacking. Russell seems to be back and hungry to impress Grady so give him a chance.

Same old problems, no quality wingers, big physical midfield but lacking pace and a striker to add another dimension up top.


I quite like the look of that side and totally agree about dropping Jimbo and Finners.
mortonjag 2010-01-12 10:16:01
QUOTE(Deano1874 @ Jan 12 2010, 10:11 AM) [snapback]693721[/snapback]
I go to school and have a lot of friends in Ayrshire, and I hate to burst the bubble but Killie's potetial support is massive. [b]It spans from Largs to further down than Ayr. We do have a big potential fan base but I think when all the chips came to the table Killie's would just be bigger. You also have to consider that the OF have a tad less influence in South Ayrshire and East Ayrshire than in Greenock and the Port.
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I sadly agree with this point. Rae has tried his hardest and I don't think anybody will deny him that point, but the time to employ a Director of Football or something of that nature has long passed and when/if he finally does it there will be a sense of 'About time' rather than 'Smart move Doogie'. But as you say, we were a Second Division team back then, Hamilton have invested very heavily in their youth system, more than we could have afforded to. We couldn't expect to invest significantly less and gain the same amount of return.

Ayr United share a large swathe of that potential fan base, and have a proud history in Scottish football. A rejuvenated Ayr would suck up much of the 'floating' support.
mortonjag 2010-01-12 10:19:20
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jan 12 2010, 10:16 AM) [snapback]693725[/snapback]
Alright folks, flying to Cairo at stupid o'clock on Saturday morning, and was wondering if anyone here is a taxi driver, or knows one, and who might be willing to take me to the airport for less than the £25 I was quoted by River Clyde Taxis.

It would be at 4.45am on Saturday morning. Cheers for any suggestions.

If you lived in Glasgow I'd do it for £20! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 10:21:48
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 12 2010, 07:46 AM) [snapback]693681[/snapback]
Says the one who posts about 'sex starved priests'. laugh.gif

Sorry to hear about your illness but not sure of its relavence in your suspension, and it doesn't excuse your sectarian comments on here or anywhere else for that matter.

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Would you prefer the term 'celibate churchmen'? dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 10:24:21
QUOTE(Deano1874 @ Jan 12 2010, 10:23 AM) [snapback]693730[/snapback]
I'm still not keen on playing McGuffie out wide but he is the only choice we really have.

Indeed - I thought Jimbo would do well there but when given the chance he looked lost. Mind you he's been looking lost all season.
mortonjag 2010-01-12 10:32:54 Back on topic, and it doesn't take a genius to realise that faced with the immensity of the problem raising the price is simply a pathetic piss in the wind by a government desperate to recoup some cash!

Oh and spot the ugly bitch! ph34r.gif

Slange
mortonjag 2010-01-12 10:36:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 12 2010, 10:28 AM) [snapback]693734[/snapback]
Crap - I make some ripper curries.

Would you like some recipes ?

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Chicken tikka tandoori masala is my current favourite, with chilli pakora as a starter! smile.gif

Do you have a tandoor chez Newt?
mortonjag 2010-01-12 11:06:07
QUOTE(Deano1874 @ Jan 12 2010, 10:42 AM) [snapback]693741[/snapback]
Their potential isn't really as great. Even if you took Ayr and say the 5 mile perimetre from around it you still have the rest of Ayrshire. Their potential fanbase is about 3500 tops, and thats if they were challenging at the top of the league.

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Ayr has a bigger population than Kilmarnock (just)!
mortonjag 2010-01-12 11:18:50
QUOTE(Deano1874 @ Jan 12 2010, 11:09 AM) [snapback]693754[/snapback]
I know but every Ayr fan I know has stayed in or stays in Ayr. Whereas Killie pull fans from all over Ayrshire.

Simply because Killie are currently in the SPL and Ayr are struggling. Remember we're talking here about potential. If Morton were in the SPL they'd be pulling from Cowal, Ayrshire, and Renfrewshire as well as Inverclyde.

Every time we have a 'crunch' match - like the one at Firhill when we stayed up - the potential of the Morton support becomes obvious. We keep demeaning ourselves and that's very sad.
mortonjag 2010-01-12 11:24:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 12 2010, 11:17 AM) [snapback]693757[/snapback]
Generous Motors Holden's took the Viva and developed a string of race winning Toranas.

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http://www.gtrtoranaxu1carclubinc.com/page...xhall_viva.html

3310 as fitted to XU-1 ’72 – Bathurst’
Type: Conventional, water cooled four cycle, reciprocating piston
Capacity: 201.9 ci (3310 cc)
Number of cylinders: Six
Configuration: Front mounted, longitudinal, in-line
Head design: Rocker actuated overhead valves. High performance ‘HX’ camshaft, exhaust valves and springs.
Fuel system: Triple 175 CD-2 Stromberg sidedraught carburettors and low restriction air cleaners
Bore and stroke: 3.625 (92.1 mm) x 3.250 inches (82.5 mm)
Displacement: 201.9 ci (3310 cc)
Power output: 190 bhp (141.7 kW) at 5600 rpm
Torque: 200 lb/ft (162 Nm) at 4000 rpm
Compression ratio: 10:3:1
RAC rating: 31.54 hp

My ex father in law had a viva with a black vinyl roof which he thought was extremely 'swish'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 11:32:49
QUOTE(BlackIsleTon @ Jan 12 2010, 11:15 AM) [snapback]693755[/snapback]
I don't think grady has failed us again. For goodness sake. I would reckon he is sending alex out on loan to gain some match fitness. He has been out for a fairly long period now. Throwing him straight back into the team i doubt would be a very good idea. Yes it is a shame that alex walker has been one of those players not utilised for his best talents but i dont think you can lay the blame on grady.

There are too many people expecting too much from grady in my opinion. Let's be honest he has inherited a team of guys that think they are better than they are. I think he has showed some promising signs as manager. I think that give them till the end of the season to see how they get on. If they save us just from relegation without showing signs of improving the team in any way then i think Rae should have a good think about it. But if they save us from relegation with signs of improvement in players or a couple of signings that are actually different and begin to make it look like their 'own' team then i think they will turn into a decent managerial duo.

Thoughts?

Of course he hasn't. With a squad he inherited and decimated by injuries we've already seen much more attractive football. Once we get the Cellic tie out of the road we'll start to climb the table.
mortonjag 2010-01-12 11:35:27
QUOTE(Toby @ Jan 12 2010, 11:28 AM) [snapback]693765[/snapback]
Given that Rae has publicly stated that since Irons blew the wage bill by £100,000 last year he'll not be laying so much trust in another manager, you can forget about anybody having any sort of free reign I'm afraid.

Mr Rae has publicly stated many things!

It's all very well to say that Sheep Lips 'spent' the money, but inconceivable that he didn't get the nod first!
mortonjag 2010-01-12 11:41:04
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 12 2010, 08:23 AM) [snapback]693687[/snapback]
I'm constipated and i hate Jews.
Sorry about your illness.

Some Tzimmes may solve both problems! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 11:54:51
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Jan 12 2010, 11:50 AM) [snapback]693779[/snapback]
We're making very steady progress. If we don't finish above 6th this ear it'll be the first time in about 8 years we haven't improved our league position from the last.

In the last decade we've seen Morton relegated to the bottom tier, nearly liquidated, very dark days.

Since then we've seen a miraculous day out the day we won the 3rd division; a few seasons of 2nd division football we can't say weren't interesting (if for different reasons each time); of course the season we promotion back to our natural level with some brilliant goals, high scoring wins and of course the famous scalp of Killie in the Scottish Cup. The away support at Motherwell thereafter still makes the hairs on the back of the neck stand up.

In the last couple of seasons we've struggled to make much of an impact on the first division but had a right go for spell last year, the last day escape at Firhill and some of us were lucky enough to see another tremendous cup upset with the win over Hibs. It was one of the most exciting and dramatic games I've ever seen. This season we're looking into the abyss again but have been rewarded for our patience (ahem) with another juicy cup tie, this time against Celtic!

There are many clubs worse off than Morton, we're a right lucky bunch if you ask me. Count your blessings an'aw that.

Mon the Ton. smile.gif

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mortonjag 2010-01-12 11:57:14
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Jan 12 2010, 11:56 AM) [snapback]693783[/snapback]
Too early for the drink doc, I'm just an optimistic cnt today!

I salute your sobriety and optimism! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 12:10:59
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 12 2010, 11:58 AM) [snapback]693785[/snapback]
'All 17 of Scotland's public health chiefs have called on politicians to back a minimum price for alcohol.'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/8429145.stm

Alcohol abuse 'costs every Scot £900 a year'.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/8453060.stm

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Nope - they simply signed a letter they were asked to sign by the Chief Medical Officer who acts as the principal medical adviser to the Scottish Executive and is directly involved in the development of health policy in Scotland, and is paid by Bawheid's lot! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 12:14:56
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Jan 12 2010, 12:02 PM) [snapback]693790[/snapback]
This steady progress is a fact by the way. If it takes Morton another 6 years to get to the SPL and stay there that's good enough for me.

Aye you're alright Jack - what about the one foot in the gravers? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 12:18:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 12 2010, 10:57 AM) [snapback]693748[/snapback]
Sure do - should I send you a chicken ?

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That's very kind, but I have a tandoor in my cellar where among other things I occasionally cook a chook! nerd.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 12:20:55
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Jan 12 2010, 12:16 PM) [snapback]693801[/snapback]
I'm afraid they've had their stint and there's nothing you nor I can do about it. tongue.gif




Good - could you ask Mr Rae to close the door gently as he leaves? wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 12:33:36
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 12 2010, 12:21 PM) [snapback]693807[/snapback]
James Grady is hoping to sign former Celt Michael Tidser today, making it his first signing in the January transfer window.


Very tricky and quick with his feet. Michaels dribbling and the ability to take on 5-6 players with ease and turn nothing in something was quickly picked up by Celtic since the ages of 11. Allways a maturer player for his age, thinking two steps ahead at everysituation, Michael handled the pressure of Celtic and quickly went through the ranks. He was called up to the National squad at both u17 and u19 level and went on to captain Celtics u19s. He now plays his football in Sweden, with Ostersunds FK. (Fremdangabe)

It's his twentieth birthday this Friday.

I hope we sign young Michael Tidser
Who's Scottish as all Cellic kids are
But there's many a slip
Between cup and lip
The question's 'How much do you bid Sir?' laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 12:36:40
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 12 2010, 12:21 PM) [snapback]693805[/snapback]
I remember the McGraw era well as it was around about the time I was obsessed with Morton, being a teenager and football being the be all and end all. Yes, we had a great side around 95/96 but even then we were still a first division team. I believe it's our natural level - we'd get rode by pretty much every team in the SPL just now.

I can't see us ever being a Motherwell type team and I've accepted it. Time to stop harping on about the past, it's amazing what rose tinted goggles can do to your sense of perspective.

What on earth does that mean? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 13:02:08
QUOTE(D1pst1ck @ Jan 12 2010, 12:44 PM) [snapback]693823[/snapback]
Wouldn't have been posted on the thread if a dig hadn't been made about my family being inbreds
My illness was NO reference to my suspension
My suspension and posts about us being a family of inbreds who should go back to Ibrox & Bawheid being a Rangers supporter made me post about my illness to EXPLAIN why he attends Rangers games

Thankfully you can still post. If Mouton was still here (and he isn't because multiple aliases are not allowed apparently) rolleyes.gif I'm sure he would agree that certain posters delight in putting in the Belgian bootees when somebody's down.

There is a prevalent dual morality on this pubic massage board concerning the OF you see - the OF is scum - nothing is black or white.

For what it's worth my partner is a lifelong Rangers supporter and season ticket holder, (as is one of my sons) and may have had a quiet chuckle at your comment about those 'dirty beasts', while my daughter and son in law are avid Celtic supporters and season ticket holders and certainly would have deplored your family being called 'inbreds'.

If you are hoping to get any justice I'd advise you to think again. We may all know in private that a large number of OF fans are decent and respectable folk, and of course it goes without saying that ALL Ton fans are decent and respectable folk without even the faintest hint of allegiance to the OF, but on this wee massage board OF fans MUST be hated.

Mouton was a little lamb
His fleece was green and blue
He gambolled to a Ton -Tyms match
And wondered what to do
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mortonjag 2010-01-12 13:04:10
QUOTE(D1pst1ck @ Jan 12 2010, 12:56 PM) [snapback]693832[/snapback]
I understand, but my comments WOULDN'T have been made if nach0king hadn't made a derogatory comment about my family being inbreds on the thread in the first place. Slate Bawheid by all means BUT DON'T MAKE IT PERSONAL OR ABOUT FAMILY
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Thanks for your good wishes.

Good Gawd - not Smeggy - and an ex Mod too! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 13:29:04
QUOTE(D1pst1ck @ Jan 12 2010, 01:24 PM) [snapback]693856[/snapback]
Nach0king called us a family of inbreds.

Apparently he doesn't like the 'faces of grubby little bigots'. Did you post a picture of a grubby little bigot too - I'm just wondering what they look like? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 13:32:30
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 12 2010, 01:29 PM) [snapback]693861[/snapback]
Citation fail, it was Despot herself who raised the (clearly metaphorical) objection that her "face doesn't fit."

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Sorry Smeggy, I thought it was you who just said:

No, the faces of grubby little bigots don't fit on this site, thankfully.

I'll try a different pair of strictly blue and white tinted specs! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 13:35:51
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 12 2010, 12:51 PM) [snapback]693827[/snapback]
The population of Ayrshire is circa 350,000 which, subject to old firm dilution is shared between two senior clubs - average say 175,000.

The poulation of Inverclyde plus allowing fro a proportion of Bute and Argyll is less than 100,000.

Killie are and have been a bigger club than us.

Taking the 19 clubs presently above us in the leagues as at today we are or have the potential to be bigger than or at least on a par with 10/11 of them

Renfrewshire and the Glasgow conurbation excluded then? Even now I reckon a good 10% of posters live there!
mortonjag 2010-01-12 13:38:21
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 12 2010, 01:34 PM) [snapback]693865[/snapback]
I like this new badass persona Nacho has. Like a lone wolf messageboarder who no-one can get close to and others dislike because he's a loose cannon, much like Harry Callahan.

A loose Canon - ah now we're getting nearer the truth - see those.....ooops! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 13:48:18
QUOTE(Malt @ Jan 12 2010, 01:42 PM) [snapback]693870[/snapback]
What progress have we made off the field with Youth and commercially? Has progress been made? We went over budget by 100k is that progress? We sacked yet another manager. Grady is only contracted to end of the season and I wouldn;t bank on any stability there as Rae changes managers more than he changes his underpants!

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mortonjag 2010-01-12 13:49:55
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 12 2010, 01:26 PM) [snapback]693859[/snapback]
I also liked Alex Walker playing in midfield, he had a bit of drive, passing ability and a decent shot.

However his most natural position is right back, he played there for Rangers, including one SPL game against Hibs, then played in the same position for Clyde. Whenever he's played right back for Morton he's looked at his most comfortable, especially when playing behind a decent right winger (McLaren or Miller).

I think Walker is just another in a long line of players who Morton have failed to use properly. We've treated Walker as a utility player and used him almost everywhere but his natural position, even when we kept saying we had no full backs.

I'm afraid our previous two managers have left a legacy of a highly dysfunctional and lopsided squad of players with too many one dimensional players of the same predictable type, too few in the postions required and none of the creative type.

Ideally an attacking side should have drive and creativity on both wings and through the middle to make things happen. We unbelievably have none of the three which gives us no chance of progressing, especially when we don't have a pacy striker to counteract this failing.

Any manager taking on the task of making a decent team from this squad has a massive job on his hands, and Grady has shown some signs he may be up to the challenge. IMO he needs to change half the squad before we can start to move forward
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Bravo - couldn't have put that better.
mortonjag 2010-01-12 13:51:52
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 12 2010, 01:42 PM) [snapback]693871[/snapback]
OK - what's been inconsistent here, then?

Only one person went on a sectarian rant. Only one person was banned. What am I missing?

Yer nookie? wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 13:58:30
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 12 2010, 01:55 PM) [snapback]693879[/snapback]
---------------------------------Stewart----------------------------------

Walker-----------Greacen----------------------Shimmin----------Reid

---------------------------------McFarlane--------------------------------

Russell---------------------------Jenkins---------------------------Monti

-------------------Weatherson------------------Graham----------------
For me this is about the nearest we could get to a genuine attacking force from the current squad. We'd have a bit of craft and creativity on both wings and through the centre to provide service to the strikers, whilst being relatively solid at the back.

I think we need to try something different from Finlayson and McAlister, who both look jaded through countless games trying without success to be proper wingers. There may be room for one of them in the team but not two without an end product. The only time I'd play both would be as wing backs in a 3-5-2.

Ideally we need a couple of pacy wingers who can cross a ball, and a driving creative midfielder. All three should also be able to chip in with a few goals per season.

YIP!
mortonjag 2010-01-12 14:00:45
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 12 2010, 12:56 PM) [snapback]693831[/snapback]
Caldwell is a rich man's Harding. Likely to have a lapse in concentration before making a floaty 40 yard pass to the opposition.

Being a Morton supporter I'll have to accept your assessment.
mortonjag 2010-01-12 14:02:31
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 12 2010, 01:58 PM) [snapback]693883[/snapback]
And as we all knew, he's the b1tch biggrin.gif

No way dwarf are you remotely as attractive as either of those - though the Jag still loves you sometimes. wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 14:04:16
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 12 2010, 02:02 PM) [snapback]693889[/snapback]
not a scotland fan?

I'd never dream of assessing a player on the strength of a few matches! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 14:05:12
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 12 2010, 02:01 PM) [snapback]693887[/snapback]
Abuse gets warning, ott religous comments get bans.

Holy sh1t! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 14:06:08
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 12 2010, 01:59 PM) [snapback]693884[/snapback]
Might be elsewhere, not got time to look.
Did Morton and Celtic approach the SFA and asked the game to be switched to Hampden? (and get knocked back).

had a look on SFA site and nothing on there indicates this.

Write to Gordon Smith and go for a long holiday! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 14:06:58
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 12 2010, 02:05 PM) [snapback]693893[/snapback]
32 games should be enough to tell ph34r.gif

OK he's a big donkey! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 14:11:46
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 12 2010, 02:04 PM) [snapback]693891[/snapback]
I would say tenth.
We are in my opinion on a par with or should be with the likes of Falkirk , Thistle, St Johnstone,ICT and certainly in the top 14 easily and if we were to punch above our weight then up there with Motherwell, Dundee Utd or Dundee (if they were doing just ok). We are not bigger than the Rangers, Celtic, Hearts, Hibs, Aberdeen then the two Dundee clubs(if they have success). Basically the city clubs.
After that then there are two or three clubs Motherwell,St Midden or Kilmarnock leading who could argue they have a bigger potential fanbase, have had more success and there are realistically six we should be on a par with or should beat on a a normal day and have just as many potential fans if not more,and should have a great stadium like they have and have just as much success. Thistle, Dunfermline, St Johnstone, Kilmarnock, ICT, and a rejuvinated Ayr United.

RIGHT!

Aberdeen, One Dundee club (not both at once), Hearts, Hibs, Celtic, and Rangers are undeniably bigger. The rest is all debatable and depends on relative success. To base it simply on population is naive IMO. A successful Morton has always attracted big crowds relative to other provincial clubs - indeed look even at the crowds we pulled in not so long ago in the Third division.

mortonjag 2010-01-12 14:19:59
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 12 2010, 01:10 PM) [snapback]693846[/snapback]
I can't believe so many of you actively want one of our best players to leave. And are Partick actually a better option for anyone? I don't think so. If he leaves I'd rather it was to a different league because I'd rather have Peter playing for us than against us.

Depressing how so many of you seem to think that mid first division obscurity is the best we can ever be expected to achieve. Well, the way some of you treat our players, you may be right because frankly they get more abuse from within our own ranks than they do from opposition supporters. Good players should be welcomed, not turned into pariahs.

It seems that Spoonsy has made the mistake of living in the centre of Greenock where his every jobby is closely scrutinised by the sh1t stirrers.

If the private lives of - say - the first ten SPL players whose first name starts with 'A' were analysed I guess we'd all be wondering how they manage onto the park of a Saturday!
mortonjag 2010-01-12 14:22:40
QUOTE(EBu @ Jan 12 2010, 02:16 PM) [snapback]693899[/snapback]
This board is really priceless at times.

Damned if you do, Damned if you dont.

So your siggy's a con? wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 14:27:27 I hope the signing talks are going well! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 14:39:41
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 12 2010, 02:30 PM) [snapback]693913[/snapback]
I reckon Morton's catchment extends to Kilmacolm and Langbank to the East - OK maybe a few in Bishopton but for the most part further east than these two is St Mirren territory. To the South its Largs. Further down is Kilmarnock/Ayr territory.

As for Morton fans living elsewhere, thats true but it is also true for every other team.

Do you imagine for example that as many Inverness Caley fans live in Glasgow as do Morton fans. You surely have to accept population spread, job availability etc., and ease of travel as well as the immediate vicinity.
mortonjag 2010-01-12 14:42:43
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 12 2010, 02:40 PM) [snapback]693920[/snapback]
I honestly think we need players to provide service to our current strikers rather than yet another striker trying to create his own opportunities.

When you look at the dearth of creativity in our midfield and attack I actually think the scoring ratio of our strikers is pretty impressive. Look at the free headers from crosses Liam Buchanan had against Morton and Dundee United and he put them into the keeper's hands or past the post. Weatherson gets a cross like that about once every 10 games and puts them away 9 times out of 10.

Weatherson, Wake, Graham and Russell for me is a very good squad of strikers at this level, who will get plenty of goals if the service is provided. You continually see them chasing long or high balls and trying for hopeful flick-ons rather than accurate crosses or passes. IMO we should be looking elsewhere for the reasons we don't score enough goals. As well as not providing decent service our midfielders and wingers also score a ridiculously low amount of goals themselves, one decent midfielder (E.g. Chris Millar) could score more than all of them put together.

I may be shot down for this but if I could buy one player to help solve our attacking problems it would be Paul McGowan. He would take the ball from our statue-like midfielders and drive forward to link up with our not very fast strikers. He could either be used as an attacking midfielder or deep lying forward (old fashioned inside forward).

For me McGowan was ideal for us when he helped us win promotion and would be even more so now. He seems to possess what it takes to fill the gaping hole between our static midfield and immobile attack, add his goals and it would be like getting two players for the price of one.

I wish you would stop reading my mind - Gowser's a great wee player - my only gripe was that he was repeatedly described as a 'striker' which he plainly is not!
mortonjag 2010-01-12 14:44:34
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 12 2010, 02:28 PM) [snapback]693912[/snapback]
Yid like to think so.

There are no chinks in Bryan's armour.
mortonjag 2010-01-12 14:47:31
QUOTE(irnbru @ Jan 12 2010, 02:45 PM) [snapback]693924[/snapback]
If Morton would have agreed to play this tie at Parkhead I would have been raging!

It would have brought in much more MUNNY! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 15:10:37
QUOTE(theton_cappielow @ Jan 12 2010, 02:53 PM) [snapback]693931[/snapback]
disappointed no apology given to the fans. also the events according to his solicitor as heard in court are obviously biased in his favour as he was certainly not an innocent little sheep in this matter.

that said i would like him to stay at cappielow as i quite like the role he plays in the team

The solicitor was only doing his job as hopefully Spoonsy will now be allowed to do.
mortonjag 2010-01-12 15:12:31
QUOTE(Doc @ Jan 12 2010, 02:50 PM) [snapback]693927[/snapback]
I can exclusively reveal that Smith hates Morton...I dated his niece for 4 years and heard it every family event!

AH - the Craig Thomson farce assumes a new dimension! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 15:13:43
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Jan 12 2010, 03:10 PM) [snapback]693941[/snapback]
Time for a new sig, doc.

I shall consider that soon! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 15:21:42
QUOTE(Lost in Space @ Jan 12 2010, 03:18 PM) [snapback]693948[/snapback]
So Smith hates Morton does he? Good! That's one less C*nt we can expect to see at Scapa then. The guys a feckin' diddy-washer.

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Hope he makes a clean breast of it.
mortonjag 2010-01-12 15:25:11
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Jan 12 2010, 03:21 PM) [snapback]693949[/snapback]
Rangers F.C.?

Nope - this baw jawed tumshie.
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mortonjag 2010-01-12 16:43:54
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 12 2010, 04:14 PM) [snapback]693988[/snapback]
No I don't think as many Caley fans as Morton fans live in Glasgow but I do think at least as many Killie fans will live in the Dear Green Place as ours, if not more. Kilmarnock is an easy commute to Glasgow. I don't think we are in dispute as to the potential of Morton v Caley. The discussion is about Morton and Killie.

Killie make better pies.
mortonjag 2010-01-12 16:50:21
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jan 12 2010, 03:43 PM) [snapback]693966[/snapback]
You got this wrong Bryan. Both should have been banned or warned. I didn't see a lot of difference in the verbals from either side. Re-instate or ban Nacho too. I'd prefer to see the former,you know it makes sense!

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QUOTE(upaclose @ Jan 12 2010, 03:51 PM) [snapback]693973[/snapback]
Your face is unacceptable. The unacceptable face of sectarianism. Your face is a square peg. This is a round hole.

We would like to efface your face.


Wee arra peepel?
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 12 2010, 04:09 PM) [snapback]693986[/snapback]
Lads, lets cut to the chase.

The mods on here made a decision and, in what I think has been a very open manner, explained that decision.

The fact that some of you don't particularly like that decision is neither here nor there - and if you have a problem with it can I suggest you PM the mods and let them know your feelings in a calm and restrained manner.

The board in the last two-three days has been torturous - it's a tough job being a mod and I've yet to meet anyone who does it with the intent of being unfair or obnoxious or whatever else they get thrown at them - indeed nacho did a good job in that very role.

His response to this has been to take it like a man - on this thread he put his hand up and said it was he who made a comment, he has been warned and he accepts the decision of the mods in this respect.

If any other party doesn't agree then talk to the mods one to one.

Lets stop these s***e threads and get back to doing what we do best - talking pish !

TonInDublin


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QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 12 2010, 04:15 PM) [snapback]693989[/snapback]
Indeed. I think Bryan's handled this very well. Perhaps if people want a board where sectarian offences don't go punished they can join the Bawheid family on Follow Follow, and leave the rest of us alone. cool.gif

SOOOOOOOOOK! SLUURRP! VOOOMMIT! rip.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 17:45:08
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jan 12 2010, 05:42 PM) [snapback]694030[/snapback]
Thats a bit rich coming from him.

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mortonjag 2010-01-12 17:49:06
QUOTE(delboy66 @ Jan 12 2010, 05:11 PM) [snapback]694021[/snapback]
The Future for Greenock Morton Football Club, is second division football, out the cup to the Celtic, a rusting stand we bought of the Midden & a set of old Midden floodlights.
Thanks Mr Rae for all the memouries but its not looking very good, time to go wee Dougie just make sure you & Crawford take your golf clubs out the door along with the rest of the broken promises, & take old Arthur along as well.
How the silly old duffer thinks that the now small band of long suffering fans are going to come out & watch some of the crap on show i just dont understand, nearly forgot to say bring a friend, MR RAE YOUR HAVING A LAUGH. mad.gif

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mortonjag 2010-01-12 17:51:24
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 12 2010, 05:15 PM) [snapback]694024[/snapback]
First the scarves and now this, what the fuck is going on? The thing is though, the scarves thread went into double figure pages, whereas this one will probably be two pages long. This is something to be annoyed about rather than wasting time moaning about scarves.

DO YOU THINK SHOOGLY TRIED TO SELL US DOWN THE RIVER AGAIN?
mortonjag 2010-01-12 18:06:07
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 12 2010, 06:01 PM) [snapback]694038[/snapback]
Well i wouldnt take it as gospel from a sun article, but if it was true (which im not entirely convinced it was) then it's disgraceful from Dougie.

Perhaps he thought they'd let him loose with the mike before his favourite fans! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 18:11:42
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jan 12 2010, 06:07 PM) [snapback]694040[/snapback]
People on here need to chill out a wee bit

If we had switched to Parkhead or Hampden I would have been dissapointed but I would also have understood the financial benefits of doing so , the same as I see the financial benifits of making some money off the 50/50 Tic/Ton fans with the scarves .

With
1. Not having an away strip this year
2. Losing fans due to having a bad season/recession
3. Having to pay off a management team

I think we should apprerciate that we were trying to make the most of this draw ..

At the end of the day we have a very slim chance of beating Celtic in the game so we should milk it for every penny its worth and hopefully use the money to bring in players that help us stay in the first division

Having a daft old penny pinching fud as a Chairman and equally daft fans who still make excuses for said daft old fud! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 18:19:13
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jan 12 2010, 04:40 PM) [snapback]693999[/snapback]
Now if you were to go on Swallow Swallow and say that King Billy was a tad effeminate, then there is a chance you might just get punished. For that reason, your argument is flawed biggrin.gif.

Do you think King Billy was a pouffe - I've heard that he rode a white horse which might suggest otherwise though some are good at multi - tasking? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 18:25:54
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jan 12 2010, 06:15 PM) [snapback]694044[/snapback]
We are 90% gonna get pumped anyways , We will deffo make more money if its at Parkhead of Hampden.

How exactly is that daft ? (try and answer a question for once MJ)

I didn't say it was daft - I said we have a daft old fud as Chairman, and that's why he now wants to sell us down the river (if it was his idea) by switching our impending and glorious Tym humping away from Scapa! The big MUNNY will come later - just let's get those --F*ck-- what are you allowed to call them now without getting banned -- folk that Mrs Bawheid would never dream of calling grubby little bigots-back up the road to the Piggery first.
mortonjag 2010-01-12 18:32:51
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 12 2010, 06:26 PM) [snapback]694051[/snapback]
Let's look at by far the biggest component figure by York university:
So, err, when the SNP say £900 a year, what they actually mean is £900 a year of mythical money for human suffering or premature death.

None of this mythical £900 is redeemable at your nearest tax office, you can't even play monopoly with it. It's just intangible nonsense yet again from the silly schools of economics.

Correct - but don't let pragmatism and spin and statistics and damned lies cloud the fact that increasing the price of booze will NOT make any significant difference unless folk CHOOSE to drink less because of it. Those who do are already in control of their alcohol consumption.

And anyway YORK university Mr Salmond - something wrong with proper Scottish Universities or is this different? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 18:35:14
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 12 2010, 06:31 PM) [snapback]694054[/snapback]
Watch oot the Mods are aboot. huh.gif

Smeggy's mates you mean? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 18:36:22
QUOTE(Zutons @ Jan 12 2010, 06:18 PM) [snapback]694046[/snapback]
My friend Bawheid broke the news on here first rolleyes.gif

There is news? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 18:46:49 The faces of grubby little bigots

or

The grubby faces of little bigots

or

The little grubby faces of bigots

or

Little bigots' grubby faces

or

Little grubby bigots' faces

or

Grubby bigots' little faces

There are more!

Whatever - they are not very nice expressions.

'The immaculate faces of tall upstanding bigots' sounds much better to me. blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 18:50:03
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 12 2010, 06:40 PM) [snapback]694060[/snapback]
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My link was to give a bit of background to who he is for anyone who didn't see it - not steal your friend Bawheid's glory of breaking the news we'd be signing someone with the initials 'mt'. rolleyes.gif

New director of football - Margaret Thatcher - et plus ca change! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 19:09:52
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 12 2010, 07:01 PM) [snapback]694073[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif You will be a favourite with the taxi boys WDE.

Will it show in the audited annual accounts? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 19:15:10
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 12 2010, 07:14 PM) [snapback]694080[/snapback]
how much were you thinking of S.A.L.C? £20? wooof big £ saving there.

i think you were just wanting to make us all jealous cos yer going to egypt while we freeze our baws aff mad.gif

Off to visit his Mummy?
mortonjag 2010-01-12 19:35:42
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 12 2010, 06:43 PM) [snapback]694064[/snapback]
I done a wee search for MJ and it threw up this unsure.gif
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2010-01-12 19:40:50
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 12 2010, 07:33 PM) [snapback]694094[/snapback]
Because of course, more attractive football is automatically awarded three points every week in the spirit of the game.

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Of course not, but for those who want entertainment as well as bragging rights it sweetens the perpetually bitter pill that is Morton under Rae!
mortonjag 2010-01-12 19:42:38
QUOTE(Deego @ Jan 12 2010, 07:39 PM) [snapback]694099[/snapback]
I've been in the pub with him. He didn't buy me a pint.

Darren, why don't you just get the night boat to Cairo?

Calmac's off!
mortonjag 2010-01-12 19:44:24
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 12 2010, 07:40 PM) [snapback]694102[/snapback]
one way to find out.

Now now - no pandering to the unacceptable and grubby little face of bigotry! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 19:48:38
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 12 2010, 07:43 PM) [snapback]694107[/snapback]
In what way? That we currently have neither?

Morton should be playing effective football first and foremost.

Stop your nonsense - of course goals win matches. The football since Grady took charge has been much more entertaining for me and I'm satisfied that the goals will come.

Sheep Lips was keech - as was the style of football he encouraged! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 19:50:15
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 12 2010, 07:41 PM) [snapback]694104[/snapback]
I already broke that news MJ. Get your own exclusives.

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Sorry about that - I got it as an exclusive from a confidential source! blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 19:54:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 12 2010, 07:52 PM) [snapback]694121[/snapback]
I trust Spotty is well.

I heard from a confidential source that he has a touch of distemper, though it's probably just a whitewash.
mortonjag 2010-01-12 19:58:37
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 12 2010, 07:54 PM) [snapback]694123[/snapback]
What you mean the tic/ton fan scarf idea hasnae generated thousands on its own. OMG. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

In years to come Douglas Rae's reign at Morton may be described as the days of the two faced muffler.
mortonjag 2010-01-12 20:05:06
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jan 12 2010, 08:02 PM) [snapback]694130[/snapback]
It was in the Sun so what do you think? Under SFA rules, Clubs are not allowed to give up home advantage in a SC Tie unless there are overwhelming safety reasons - eg when we played Rangers at Love Street some 10 years or so ago. Morton knew that, Celtic knew that so it would never have been on the agenda for discussion. A switch to Hampden would have been possible though. smile.gif

So yer 'granda' was chasing the MUNNY after all SMIFFY! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 20:07:07
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 12 2010, 08:03 PM) [snapback]694131[/snapback]
Would all new posters turn off the CAPITAL LOCKS please, you are giving me a headache.

with pleasure dear
mortonjag 2010-01-12 20:08:03
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jan 12 2010, 08:06 PM) [snapback]694136[/snapback]
He's a central midfielder, so a replacement for Masterton or McGuffie whichever JG manages to offload first. smile.gif

Does Shoogly pay you well Smiffy? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 20:23:36
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 12 2010, 08:13 PM) [snapback]694143[/snapback]
Turn yours on now and then wink.gif

Bryan can spell.
mortonjag 2010-01-12 20:28:23
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 12 2010, 08:27 PM) [snapback]694153[/snapback]
First Signing - is it a done deal yet ?

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ROOMER so far!
mortonjag 2010-01-12 20:56:49
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 12 2010, 08:53 PM) [snapback]694176[/snapback]
Very good.

Now make it a hell of a lot smaller!

[codebox]My signature's so cute[/codebox]
mortonjag 2010-01-12 20:58:53
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 12 2010, 08:53 PM) [snapback]694174[/snapback]
Bryan can mod.

verb? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-12 21:04:07
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 12 2010, 09:01 PM) [snapback]694181[/snapback]
http://kerrydalestreet.co.uk/topic/529234/1/

this is what some celtic fans were saying about him 2 years ago.

HMM!

bobbybhoy
Jan 19 2008, 09:11 AM
If he's related to the infamous Easterhouse clan of the same name, he's a **** by upbringing.


Sell.

He is, and he's a die hard Celtic fan
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mortonjag 2010-01-13 07:41:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 12 2010, 09:29 PM) [snapback]694209[/snapback]
He got James Watt.

But, why did he ask "Is your character a homosexual ?"

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Did he already know he came from Greenock?
mortonjag 2010-01-13 07:43:57
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 12 2010, 10:11 PM) [snapback]694241[/snapback]
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She was the bike of her time! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 07:51:10
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 12 2010, 10:28 PM) [snapback]694261[/snapback]
New year - time for a new signature ?

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For a few days the dwarf's signature annoyed me. Then it began to annoy others too. Now it just washes right over the top, and even when others tell him to 'grow up' the daft wee tube still thinks it's a bit risque or summit!

Perhaps I should stop querying his lack of proper education and focus on the lack of grey matter. He is a wee soul indeed! wub.gif rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 08:00:33
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 12 2010, 11:48 PM) [snapback]694302[/snapback]
I wonder if anyone sincerely believes that, in our culture, the rate and extent of alcohol consumption are not influenced at all by price and/or availability. We should offer those who do as much free alcohol as they can drink, whenever and wherever they want. I'm sure they'll be sensible enough to resist any temptation to overindulge. biggrin.gif

..which was clearly not the case when you came out with that crap, Edwards.

QUOTE(leyTON @ Jan 13 2010, 12:51 AM) [snapback]694329[/snapback]
whats interesting is that a sad old man who corrects peoople and prides himself on pedantry, ie back up arguments with facts, so often resorts to personal abuse against our dear leader

Shoogly's never disguised the fact that he's a Tory.

Oh, and the leering buffon pictured below is an embarrassment to the Scottish nation - a twisted, conniving, self seeking and misguided quasi hetero sexual whose antics eclipse those of Rae and Bliar put together.
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mortonjag 2010-01-13 08:04:56
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 13 2010, 07:49 AM) [snapback]694360[/snapback]
I tried Jimmy Cowan.

The answer ... Davie Cooper.

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HMM-quite a big mistake that!

Davie Cooper's Mother in Law was a patient of mine. She adored him (not that I'm saying the reverse applied).
mortonjag 2010-01-13 08:06:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 13 2010, 08:00 AM) [snapback]694364[/snapback]
Is that her sister with you in this clip ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9l01vy7y3w
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My Imp was a sort of Cellic green and reg ASN 124B!
mortonjag 2010-01-13 09:14:09
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 12 2010, 10:52 PM) [snapback]694273[/snapback]
Indeed. As it was in the Sun, I'm going to presume it's a complete fabrication. Morton should sue.

Pursue? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 09:16:49
QUOTE(monton @ Jan 12 2010, 09:18 PM) [snapback]694199[/snapback]
This is the trialist I was refering to in New team line up.
Have seen Tidser play many times and paired up with Monti again I believe you will see a new team and style of football emerge, this is exactly the type of PLAYER Monti needs to link up with as I dont think for one minute we have seen anything that he is capable of. Have been watching youth football very closely over the past 20 years, and think if Grady signs him its a very very good bit of business.

Shoogly will have agreed first! laugh.gif

QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 13 2010, 12:26 AM) [snapback]694319[/snapback]
black comedy ?

RACIST! mad.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 09:25:20
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Jan 12 2010, 10:40 PM) [snapback]694268[/snapback]
FFS! Stop making assumptions! Just because I'm not totally gutted like you that we've improved our league position 7 years in a row you think I'm fcking cheery and rosy about the present. I'm not.

But at least I'm not greeting about the Andy Ritchie days not being here any more. No real chairman in the world is going to get Morton back into the top flight any quicker than things are going right now unless one of us nutters wins the Euromillions and bankrolls it.

As for the part in blue, unbelievable. You quote me and show me where I've said I wouldn't want any of those things. I want a hundred million quid, a Lamborghini and a ride off Megan Fox as well but that doesn't mean any of them will happen if I set my expectations super high.

I fundamentally disagree with that statement.

QUOTE(STILLTON @ Jan 13 2010, 03:03 AM) [snapback]694352[/snapback]
Douglas Rae is a true Morton fan just like us,where would we be if not for him?
I think we need to get a few youths U19s that we can use within the 1st team,this
way we might attract more young hungry players to play at U19 level knowing they
have a chance to feature in 1st team and make there mark in Scottish football.We
need to attract players who want to earn the right to play 1st team football before their 21.
And have the Old firm fighting for their signature and bringing money into the club if they go.

That's actually quite incorrect. Shoogly is undoubtedly a Morton fan, but he's so distanced from the thoughts, feelings, and ambitions of 'us' that he's shot himself in the foot big style.

Where would we be without him - who knows - there is a school of thought which propounds the theory that without Rae we would not inevitably have gone to the wall. The clock cannot be turned back, so we'll never know the answer to your question.
mortonjag 2010-01-13 09:27:24
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Jan 13 2010, 08:32 AM) [snapback]694381[/snapback]
I think DIE HARD TON and STILLTON know each other. And either both are still in school or at the wind up.

There is an unhealthy smell about Stilton.
mortonjag 2010-01-13 09:29:18 I'm not sure how hard the actual pitch is frozen, but the temperature's due to stay above zero for the next five days minimum, so barring more snow, the surface itself should be playable. Currently I'm quite optimistic.
mortonjag 2010-01-13 09:32:22
QUOTE(STILLTON @ Jan 13 2010, 01:28 AM) [snapback]694344[/snapback]
Your right there weatherson done a better job playing at the back.

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mortonjag 2010-01-13 09:39:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 13 2010, 08:20 AM) [snapback]694372[/snapback]
don't cross the line.

May one line the cross ?

As children we lined the Cross at Kilmacolm when the Queen drove through the village. Things were simple in bygone days! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 09:47:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 13 2010, 08:14 AM) [snapback]694368[/snapback]

Mine wasn't so turquoisey!

That second clip brought back memories of the dreadful brakes, and a gerchange that was as precise as stirring porridge blindfolded! I still loved that wee Imp though - indeed 'twas my first shagmobile. I don't know what Geoff's done to the overhead cam but the old Coventry Climax engine sounds quite meaty!
mortonjag 2010-01-13 09:48:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 13 2010, 09:43 AM) [snapback]694401[/snapback]
Was she able to drive and wave at the same time ?

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She wasn't actually driving. 'Twas a loose term - like diarrhoea.
mortonjag 2010-01-13 09:52:06
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 13 2010, 08:27 AM) [snapback]694376[/snapback]
laugh.gif It's crap in exchange for crap, Newall. biggrin.gif

Ok Edwards, I'll call you Mr. if you call me 'Sir'! laugh.gif

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 13 2010, 08:29 AM) [snapback]694378[/snapback]
Don't you like him then? laugh.gif

I effin' abhor the guy! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 13 2010, 08:35 AM) [snapback]694383[/snapback]
MJ, since in your humble opinion he exceeds Messrs Bliar and Rae, who can you add to balance the equation ?

Stalin ?

Charles Manson ?

Saddam Hussein ?

Grigori Efimovich Rasputin ?

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All four plus Lucretia Borgia and Winnie the Pouffe.
mortonjag 2010-01-13 09:56:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 13 2010, 09:48 AM) [snapback]694405[/snapback]
I'm not a gnocchi bloke.

Give me some new spuds any day.

I love pasta and I love spuds - but a mixture - no thank you.

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I too enjoy spuds, but since enlisting on this wee pubic massage board King Edwards and Maris Piper are strictly a 'no go'.

Even Golden Wonder smack of casketry so I'll stick to the good old fashioned Kerr's Pinks.
mortonjag 2010-01-13 09:59:01
QUOTE(monton @ Jan 13 2010, 09:54 AM) [snapback]694410[/snapback]
Bieleve Mr Rae is very interested

Jani Sturm! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 10:04:37
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 13 2010, 10:01 AM) [snapback]694417[/snapback]
To avoid that happening again Mr Rae should get his finger out his arse and sign him!

I hope Michael's enjoying the experience! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 10:07:37
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jan 13 2010, 09:59 AM) [snapback]694416[/snapback]
I have to say that on the whole I enjoyed it. It's a bit hit and miss, but then what isn't?

Limmy's is the comedy of neuroses, which is probably why you either identify with it or you don't.

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mortonjag 2010-01-13 10:10:11 What's the best and safest (no viruses/trojans etc) free download site nowadays?
mortonjag 2010-01-13 10:27:51
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 13 2010, 10:17 AM) [snapback]694424[/snapback]
An Imp for a shagmobile ?

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Makes my Morris 1500 seem like a limo.

Although I did lose a contact lens in the back seat at the drive in one night.

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[b]Did drive ins ever happen in Scotland ?[/b]

I suppose lay by and drive in have similar connotations!
mortonjag 2010-01-13 10:37:26
QUOTE(monton @ Jan 13 2010, 10:30 AM) [snapback]694430[/snapback]
Yes we want flexability and creativity, thats why McGregor, McFarlane shouldn't be in the team. We need to cover defense with the option of pushing forward on the overlap

McFarlane may not be very creative but he does a power of work box to box and is FAR better defensively than Monti.

McGregor is an excellent all round footballer but not up to first division pace.
mortonjag 2010-01-13 10:39:41
QUOTE(ritchifan @ Jan 13 2010, 10:37 AM) [snapback]694433[/snapback]
We have just celebrated the 30th anniversary of a Part time Morton being top of the old premier league, and now we are a full time team.
The 1st division is the toughest league in scottish football to get out of AND to play in. As we demonstrated last year a good run can throw you right into the mix for promotion.

I honestly believe the top five in the first division are as good if not better than the bottom five in the SPL, if this were not the case the last 3 or 4 teams relegated from the SPL would have gone straight back up or at least one of them would.

IF we can go about the transfer window with a bit of nonse about us and get on a run who knows ?

But we are definatley too big a team/support to accept that we are a natural 1st division team.

Could not agree more.
mortonjag 2010-01-13 10:41:46
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Jan 13 2010, 10:34 AM) [snapback]694431[/snapback]
I use Pirate Bay, just make sure your virus software is up to date. I cant think of any free sites that are no risk free.

Many thanks - I use 'a squared' which I think is ahead of the pack.
mortonjag 2010-01-13 10:42:58
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jan 13 2010, 10:40 AM) [snapback]694435[/snapback]
You seem a bit upset. It's only a TV show. You don't have to like or dislike it.

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mortonjag 2010-01-13 10:44:09
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 13 2010, 10:41 AM) [snapback]694436[/snapback]
That was a serious question, MJ.

Twas a serious answer - we had no Drive Ins and had to use Lay Bys! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 10:47:29 Is Maddie still alive?
mortonjag 2010-01-13 10:49:48
QUOTE(monton @ Jan 13 2010, 10:45 AM) [snapback]694440[/snapback]
1. laugh.gif laugh.gif
How can he possibly do a power of work in there when he's as slow as a week in the jail, the only thing Mcfarlane got going for him is he's a Big boy wub.gif

2.Exactly

When fit he's actually quite quick - because he's a big boy he takes big long strides and looks slower than he really is! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 10:51:34
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 13 2010, 10:49 AM) [snapback]694445[/snapback]
I've never had any viruses from thepiratebay.org and I use that for all my movie downloads, fast as **** and usually the newest films are on there pretty quickly after DVD release in the States or occasionally quicker if someone gets a screener from legal channels!

Excellent - that's two votes already. I'll await any counter opinions but it's sounding good.
mortonjag 2010-01-13 10:53:40
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 13 2010, 10:47 AM) [snapback]694442[/snapback]
There's a difference between telling someone to go **** themselves and equating homosexuality to rape and murder.

You seem quite offended by that! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 10:54:59
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jan 13 2010, 10:52 AM) [snapback]694448[/snapback]
The relevant authorities are making arrangements to have the replay on the wednesday night!

Such tact! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 10:55:53
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jan 13 2010, 10:49 AM) [snapback]694444[/snapback]
Top tip, if you want to blend in with the locals you should defo get yourself a half Barca / half Real Madrid scarf.

Smiths?
mortonjag 2010-01-13 11:09:52
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 13 2010, 11:06 AM) [snapback]694456[/snapback]
By removing the remaining 10% of a chance of an upset. Effectively saying, **** us progressing in the cup, **** us trying to give ourselves a chance to win the biggest game we will have played in years.

Who the **** are we? Invururie Locos?

Very true -but it would have given Shoogly more MUNNY and taken him closer to his favourite fans.
mortonjag 2010-01-13 11:12:19
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jan 13 2010, 11:07 AM) [snapback]694457[/snapback]
Attitudes like that brought the Khmer Rouge to power.

What a contorted contention! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 11:15:42 I don't really know which players are available to fill the vacant positions, I'm hoping Tidser will do well although I had similar hopes for[b] Gardyne and McGeogh. Johansen is a possibility, and Twaddle and Paton have also been mentioned but seem to be unsubstantiated rumours.[/b] (DOT)


I liked wee Gardyne when he was with us and time has proved that he was just another player who was wasted at Morton.
mortonjag 2010-01-13 11:32:48
QUOTE(Toby @ Jan 13 2010, 11:24 AM) [snapback]694462[/snapback]
I'm beiginning to wish this tie had never come out of the hat in the first place, it's beginning to seem like one unsavoury issue after another. At least last year it was only issue on the park that we could blame ourelves for.

The Scottish cup is one of the greatest assets our game has- it's brilliant, and whilst it doesn't throw up as many shocks as it's English counterpart, there's still a great potential. In the last decade Celtic themselves have been knocked out by 1st Division sides 3 times- we should be using every tiny little advantage we have by turning Cappielow into a complete hell-hole for them.

My first thought when the draw was made was that this is the chance for Morton to cause an upset, or at least give them a right run for their money, but no, it seems that the devil's shilling is the priority here. This game is a BONUS to the bank balance, the money should never be accounted for and success on the park should never be compromised for the sake of making a few more quid. The club can bemoan the expenditure that they're shelling out over the season all they want and claim they're trying to make that back but there's a simple solution for that- cut your cloth accordingly and be more prudent. In theory we'd be no worse off than we are at the moment considering we're the worst performing full time club in the country.

I await comment from within Cappielow as to whether this was proposed, although expect those appeals to fall on deaf ears. If infact this is correct, the board are guilty of prostituting the club's integrity for the sake of a couple more quid.

Comment from within Cappielow is freely available on the massage board when deemed appropriate! happy.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 11:41:39
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 13 2010, 11:38 AM) [snapback]694466[/snapback]
laugh.gif I'm not gay if that's what you're implying, but he's still not admitted he equated them when he quite clearly did, and it's a bigoted opinion.

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mortonjag 2010-01-13 11:44:36
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jan 13 2010, 11:40 AM) [snapback]694467[/snapback]
toby.. good post and some good points, theres far too many fans of all teams in this country willing to accept that the priority for their club is to make money.. and lots of it, thats why as fans we NEED TO ACCEPT THE RESPONSIBILITY for where football is now, if as fans we had voted with our feet as one, then the FARCE that is the scottish league set up and spl could have been forced to change to make it LESS EXCLUSIVE, our game could be so much better with a BIGGER SPL, but the greedy ****s dont want that, as for the scottish cup.. you are wrong, the glamour of the cup has been taken away with SEEDING.. again the big guns get it easy in order to satisfy sponsers, and ensure, again that the BIG BOYS stay in as long as possible.. money rules football, and we as fans have allowed it.. ultimately WE ARE RESPONSIBLE for what is happening.. if fans of all scottish clubs could only work together to reclaim the game, then change could be made, until then, fair competition and football fans mean **** all to these greedy ****s.

Do you endorse our 'greedy ****' of a Chairman's alleged attempt to switch the tie away from Cappielow?
mortonjag 2010-01-13 11:45:57
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 13 2010, 11:43 AM) [snapback]694469[/snapback]
Nae luck. tongue.gif

Have to put up with the dwarf for a bit then!

Any recommendations? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 12:21:47
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 13 2010, 12:12 PM) [snapback]694475[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2010-01-13 12:33:56
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jan 13 2010, 12:28 PM) [snapback]694485[/snapback]
no jag.. if he has done that, then it makes it plainly obvious that whats good for morton as a football club is not as close to his heart as some wpuld have us believe.
toby, youre right, it is seeding.. which makes the scottish cup an unfair compitition.. much like the champions league, europa league and just about every other competition which makes profit more important than compitition.

Well Warrior, you know and I know that several posters on this massage board will know the truth and jump to the Shooglemeister's defence if he's not guilty.

All we have to do is watch this space, which will surely remain blank! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 12:40:13
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jan 13 2010, 12:35 PM) [snapback]694493[/snapback]
It would seem to be more preposterous than interesting. A cardiologist and GP allegedly covering up their own daughters murder sad.gif .

I know. The medical profession should be given the trust it wholly and unreservedly merits.
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mortonjag 2010-01-13 12:42:30
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jan 13 2010, 12:35 PM) [snapback]694495[/snapback]
www.warez-bb.org

Many thanks - I'm hoping to get a few more opinions before I try out the recommendations.
mortonjag 2010-01-13 12:44:46
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 13 2010, 12:35 PM) [snapback]694494[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2010-01-13 12:48:02
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 13 2010, 12:44 PM) [snapback]694504[/snapback]
This is an interesting departure frm the debate but here goes. For the last 18 years I have regularly, regularly meaning more than once a month, attended events where the bar was free. I never drank more than I would have if I was paying for the hooch.
For the last four years I have spent most of my working life in hotels from Monday to Friday, all expenses paid. I don't drink anymore than I would if I was paying for the booze.

It's dangerous to extrapolate from a solitary example Peter, but I'd suggest that that kinda blows the Right Honourable Gentleman's argument oot the watter! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 12:49:37
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 13 2010, 12:37 PM) [snapback]694497[/snapback]
OK, we get it - you didn't like it, doesn't mean you've got to insult others who didn't think it was all that bad.

Ratarse likes to insult folk - he should take an example from Mortonjag's book.
mortonjag 2010-01-13 13:08:00 The way things stand, and assuming he's match fit I believe there is no longer any justification for excluding LEAFY in favour of either Jimbo or Finners. He's fast, links well, can drift to either wing, can cross a ball, and can even score goals.
mortonjag 2010-01-13 13:10:39
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jan 13 2010, 12:59 PM) [snapback]694514[/snapback]
It's like taking sweeties from a wean ph34r.gif.

..or Millions from a pauper.
mortonjag 2010-01-13 13:14:24
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 13 2010, 01:07 PM) [snapback]694521[/snapback]
please don't abuse folk.

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I'm not sure that the contention that somebody is a 'fud' (fuddy duddy) is necessarily abuse - perhaps more an opinion.

As for telling to go and feed himself - we must all eat! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 13:16:34
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 13 2010, 01:04 PM) [snapback]694517[/snapback]
Well, if we all did that it would make this place pretty boring. wink.gif smile.gif

Status quo! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 13:18:49
QUOTE(EBu @ Jan 13 2010, 12:45 PM) [snapback]694507[/snapback]
Chalk up another vote for Pirate Bay, if the site is down I'll use Mininova but not very often.

Haven't used Warez in years to be honest, might have improved but not that impressed whan I used it before.

MJ, I take it you know you need U Torrent or similar program to be able to download the files.

Yes thanks.
mortonjag 2010-01-13 13:20:23
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jan 13 2010, 01:15 PM) [snapback]694528[/snapback]
should this idiot not wait until he's the legal age to have a drink, before he spouts his mummy and daddys views on the real world.. big words dont make you clever vt...

Bryan.. just to clarify.. this isnt personal abuse aimed at VT.. I dont think he's gay.

Which may or may not contradict his own perception.
mortonjag 2010-01-13 13:21:40
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 13 2010, 01:16 PM) [snapback]694529[/snapback]
The pretty girls never are sad.gif

Correctamundo Quasi - my little chookie! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 13:29:15
QUOTE(JohnnyPoirot @ Jan 13 2010, 01:27 PM) [snapback]694541[/snapback]
Has signed according to todays telegraph....typically nothing on the official site.

Do you have a link to the site?
mortonjag 2010-01-13 13:31:30
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 13 2010, 01:28 PM) [snapback]694543[/snapback]
The weather forecast on Friday suggesrted the weather was unlikely to improve that much...

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That's incontrovertible! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 13:35:19
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Jan 13 2010, 01:21 PM) [snapback]694536[/snapback]
He didn't tell him to feed himself.

He knows that guy from old and indeed that he descends from the Paisley area and merely suggested that he go wash himself!!!!

Nothing wrong with that is there? Quite factual perhaps???

I could swear he said feed! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 13:37:28
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 13 2010, 01:35 PM) [snapback]694548[/snapback]
....his profile states he is 19 wink.gif

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and yours states you're 23 darling! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 13:54:04
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 13 2010, 01:47 PM) [snapback]694553[/snapback]

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mortonjag 2010-01-13 13:55:36
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 13 2010, 01:45 PM) [snapback]694552[/snapback]
Not my fault you demand I say I'm 15 when in your cellar!

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Are you really 23 - you look so fresh and tender! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 13:59:28 It's a rather bizarre tale. She was clearly only making the point that she was busy cooking as she gave them a friendly wave.
mortonjag 2010-01-13 14:00:55
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 13 2010, 01:59 PM) [snapback]694559[/snapback]
Look again... ph34r.gif

I just did - it definitely starts with 'f' and not 'w'! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 14:18:08
QUOTE(TigerTon @ Jan 13 2010, 02:01 PM) [snapback]694564[/snapback]

TY - I'm excited by this signing and it shows not only that Grady has contacts but that he's looking to improve our attacking options. I hope somebody comes in for Jimbo in the transfer window.
mortonjag 2010-01-13 14:20:57
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 13 2010, 02:00 PM) [snapback]694560[/snapback]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/north_east/8456497.stm

I know a few teachers and the first hint of snow they are rubbing their hands with glee at a cheeky day off or two while everyone else manages to get to their work.

They get enough holidays as it is! I bet there would be an uproar from them if this happened

I'm unsurprised that they keep like company. I know and have know a large number of teachers and in general they apply themselves well to an increasingly difficult task.
mortonjag 2010-01-13 14:21:56
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 13 2010, 02:03 PM) [snapback]694565[/snapback]
Look again... laugh.gif

You are beginning to sound like my cellar mate! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 14:23:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 13 2010, 02:01 PM) [snapback]694562[/snapback]
It is because you make me dress so young for you sad.gif

It's like Hard Candy in reverse!

Shall I post a fotie or would Bryan ban me? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 15:05:32
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 13 2010, 02:40 PM) [snapback]694579[/snapback]
In the tele apparently.

Is this the first player we have had whose name sounds like his nickname?

Or should it be "Tiddles"?

It's an anagram of Stride which sounds promising - there again we also have Direst! blink.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 15:07:36
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jan 13 2010, 02:40 PM) [snapback]694580[/snapback]
well never know... theres too many secrets at cappielow...

The Shoogly set are eloquent by their silence -perhaps ominous is the better word! rip.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 15:09:35
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 13 2010, 02:47 PM) [snapback]694583[/snapback]
Funny name for a wummin Carlo. I hear ye have big family from the Easterhouse area of glesca and the majority are all currant buns bu not your son. With aname like yours hen I take it you aren't a currant bun either missus.

A Lester Piggot? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 15:14:43
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 13 2010, 03:13 PM) [snapback]694596[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2010-01-13 15:36:52 As reported in the National press, it appears that a request was made to have our forthcoming Cup tie against Celtic transferred to Celtic Park or Hampden.

Can anybody shed light on the allegation, as the (not unreasonable) assumption is that the Club sold the fans down the river on this for the sake of a few extra bob.

Failure on the part of the usual creeps to spout their pro Shoogly agenda will surely confirm that the old fud is guilty. dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 15:41:15
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 13 2010, 03:38 PM) [snapback]694604[/snapback]
Great idea then the sale of the Tommy two scarfs would have rocketed. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

As dreamed up by the two faced muffler of Sinclair St?
mortonjag 2010-01-13 16:39:09 Hmm -maybe Wednesday's training day for the spies! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 16:42:00 Adam Croaky up front.
mortonjag 2010-01-13 16:46:52 Donkey Dave's been on since the thread was started. Perhaps for once he'll claim he knows hee haw! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 17:58:08 Donkey Dave's been on again -surely the beastie who claims intricate knowledge of Club accounts can give us a wee clue. There again perhaps he knew hee haw all along! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Will Mabawsa or Smiffy come up trumps - OH and Spot Ton always 'knows' lots of stuff. Good God I forgot -one of the Directors posts on our little massage board. Mr Duncan must surely know the answer - he certainly 'knew' that Shoogly paid for the Midden stand because Shoogly told him! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 18:05:29
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Jan 13 2010, 04:54 PM) [snapback]694649[/snapback]
And you haven't really answered any of the points i made....initiating smug mode happy.gif

Ha! The wee sneak lobbies folk behind our backs does he? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 18:09:08
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 13 2010, 05:31 PM) [snapback]694665[/snapback]
Take the hint, you're banned for being a grubby little bigot.

Proof! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 18:10:02
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 13 2010, 05:31 PM) [snapback]694666[/snapback]
It was me

Been taking English lessons from Puggs? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 18:19:26
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 13 2010, 06:14 PM) [snapback]694691[/snapback]
Thanks for doing that. I hope you receive a reply but like you I'm not banking on it.

Dear Mr Cappiecat,

Thank you for your enquiry. We are currently looking into the matter and shall write to you again once the fuss has died down as soon as possible.

Yours faithfully,

dictated but not signed by anybody.
mortonjag 2010-01-13 18:21:58
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 13 2010, 06:17 PM) [snapback]694693[/snapback]
I share a house with him, it's allowed.

You cheatin' little scumbag. blink.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 18:23:00
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 13 2010, 06:17 PM) [snapback]694695[/snapback]
You should have seen the post after it.

What did it say?
mortonjag 2010-01-13 18:32:53
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 13 2010, 04:53 PM) [snapback]694647[/snapback]
We scored lots of goals in the Second Division last time.

Our goal scoring record in the second division relative to the 'strength' of our squad was abysmal. Grady is the first attack minded manager since Cowboy.
mortonjag 2010-01-13 18:37:24
QUOTE(Quagmire @ Jan 13 2010, 06:32 PM) [snapback]694704[/snapback]
Horses for courses where you're concerned more like, can I assume that since Morton have came out and effectively called A.Donald a liar and a thief with no denial from the man himself that he is indeed guilty?

On the off chance have you been told tonight's lottery numbers?

HA HA

The first utterly pathetic attempt at defence of the Club by the usual anonymity.

It's far from 'horses for courses'. The Club has been asked for its version and we await a response.

I'm sure that as and when Mr Donald is asked for his account there will be many red faces among yer pals! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 18:39:37
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 13 2010, 06:30 PM) [snapback]694702[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2010-01-13 18:41:25
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 13 2010, 06:31 PM) [snapback]694703[/snapback]
Been taking boring lessons from Newton? rolleyes.gif

Been taking needling lessons from the Belgian? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 18:42:42
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 13 2010, 06:38 PM) [snapback]694713[/snapback]
Fantastic, I really enjoy your weather updates.
Are we in for a barbecue summer this year?

Somebody steal yer scone today Peter, or is it just the time of the month? wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 18:44:23 Hi Dave - what did the boss say about it then? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 18:45:45
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 13 2010, 06:44 PM) [snapback]694720[/snapback]
I was being serious!!!

Sorry Peter, just didn't have you down as the barbie type! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 18:48:12
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 13 2010, 06:42 PM) [snapback]694717[/snapback]
Something about riding up the M8 on a white horse singing the sash to piss us ****s off, or words to that effect.

It was all of a piece with the grubby little bigot's other postings, that much is clear.

edit: the asterisked word is b'stard

Did she call you a b*stard before or after you described her family as 'inbreds'?
mortonjag 2010-01-13 18:50:55
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 13 2010, 06:45 PM) [snapback]694723[/snapback]
If anyone is willing to share with me Alistair Donald's email address or telephone number I'll gladly ask him to blow the lid on the organisation.

I imagine Shoogly must have it as he is allegedly 'pursuing' him! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 18:54:42
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 13 2010, 06:47 PM) [snapback]694724[/snapback]
I do like a barbecue Douglas. We bought a nice one last summer and only got to use it twice.

That's a damned shame - we really are due a nice long summery time later this year - I feel it in my bones.

Do you do bananas in foil covered in dessicated coconut, honey, and a dash of Cointreau? Goes without saying about the marshmallows? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 18:56:52
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 13 2010, 06:53 PM) [snapback]694730[/snapback]
To be frank this whole thread is a total joke and will probably go on for 5 pages or until it gets closed. It's pathetic attention seeking at its worst.
It's amazing that some blabber on about 'free speech' or whatever drivel their own little prejudices allow then cry their eyes out at 'the mods' whilst most of the folk on here can post what they want, put sometimes highly contenious opinions across and not be warned or banned.
Perhaps, just like the Jesse forum, there could be an 'idiots corner'.

Would a corner suffice?
mortonjag 2010-01-13 19:24:58
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 13 2010, 07:20 PM) [snapback]694757[/snapback]
It's half-time in Zambia-Tunisia on Eurosport.

Good - just checking I can post here because at the moment I can't on the Hampden thread! unsure.gif

Care to see if you can or has the hand of Shoogly struck? smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 19:27:36
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jan 13 2010, 06:51 PM) [snapback]694729[/snapback]
Oh to be retired where I can spend my time stalking people on an internet messageboard... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Intricate knowledge of club accounts does not necessarily equate to intricate knowledge of the day to day operational and tactical decision making process within Cappielow. Unfortunately I have been off work unwell today and have no knowledge of this burning issue, other than what has been posted on here. For what it is worth if it is true then I would struggle see how any Director or club official could justify the rationale behind the decision...

On this particular occassion I concur to knowing hee haw rolleyes.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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BRAVO Dave - vive la revolution -you may now trot off to the Vet!
mortonjag 2010-01-13 19:30:29
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 13 2010, 07:02 PM) [snapback]694743[/snapback]
That's not really much good to me, is it?

If the AD camp is convinced that one simple line of questioning will be the start of the new Watergate then... well, why no action so far?

unsure.gif Re elsewhere - I CAN now post! rolleyes.gif

AD has not spoken on the matter. Until such time as he does folk will believe what they choose.

Until the Club has spoken on this matter the same applies.

A request has been submitted to the club.

mortonjag 2010-01-13 19:40:51
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 13 2010, 07:27 PM) [snapback]694764[/snapback]
I can and did. wink.gif

Thank you Your Majesty - you are as always gracious.

QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 13 2010, 07:28 PM) [snapback]694768[/snapback]
No, I'm not especially interested in your paranoid delusions.

No thanks to you ya wee tube, and leave the diagnoses to me!

Your 'grubby little bigot' comment was bang out of order. Repeating it was doubly bang out of order. Your 'inbred' comment was bang out of order too.

Funny how the 'Bigot Polis' have no agenda of their own. Take a long hard look at yourself -think about counselling, or anger management or whatever.

There - I feel better now.

You are welcome to visit my cellar at any time Nach0 - we clearly need to find some common ground! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 19:45:51
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jan 13 2010, 07:39 PM) [snapback]694772[/snapback]
Why should anyone on here respond to unfounded rumours just to satisfy your ego/anti-Rae agenda?

Hi Smiffy, I knew you wouldn't let your master down, and as always your simplicity is endearing.

The reason why somebody should respond to what you describe as 'unfounded rumours' is that they have enraged many loyal Morton fans and require to be put to bed! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 20:08:14
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 13 2010, 07:57 PM) [snapback]694780[/snapback]
I'm just dying to hear why.
I received and accepted a warning for that.

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'Abusing fellow members will not be tolerated'.

Perhaps the recipients of your comments are indeed unwashed and vertically challenged. You may also have evidence to prove that they satisfy popularly accepted criteria for 'bigotry'. If so I'm sure you'll provide that evidence.

So far as I can see the comment was not only abusive but was intended to be abusive, and having achieved your goal you have repeated the offence.

Now you can stop dying.
mortonjag 2010-01-13 20:13:33
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 13 2010, 07:53 PM) [snapback]694779[/snapback]
Ye certainly miss the Ton Ton... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Dat Edwin - hee got up de many noses! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-13 20:22:11
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 13 2010, 08:14 PM) [snapback]694784[/snapback]
That was even more lame than I was expecting.

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Well I'm not going to accuse you of being a paedophile and rapist just because you think you can ride roughshod over the massage board rules son!

Your comments were offensive and abusive, and you patently have no way of defending them.
mortonjag 2010-01-13 21:07:38
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 13 2010, 08:58 PM) [snapback]694799[/snapback]
Here hold on a minute why are they good posters to say that the topic of religion should not be brought up too often. That is dictating the subjects discussed Bryan and not the mods decisons. On your second point What next? No discussions on shoogily? No discussions on politics incase the telegraph get a hold of that. Bryan This is gonna open a hole can of worms and the mods are making up rules as they go along.

There's definitely far too much of the Rangers Celtic Proddy Catholic crap every time anything vaguely connected crops up.

To suggest that all true Ton fans are utterly unbiased towards one or the other is naive in the extreme. We've all got our own wee sneaking allegiances and prejudices even though mature folk are able to keep them where they should be.

There is nothing more abhorrent to me than some knight in shining armour 'Bigot Policeman' laughing up his sleeve as he deliberately stirs the pot of trouble he pretends to eschew.
mortonjag 2010-01-14 07:16:53
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Jan 14 2010, 12:26 AM) [snapback]695020[/snapback]
If nachonov0king does not come on here and give a good reason as to why he has continually verbaly abused my family for the past few days, admit my wife was harshly dealt with and a fairer result was both to be warned, I will be reporting EVERY slanderous quote made towards my family by him to the moderators and we will see what action - IF ANY - is taken against him.
If no action is taken it will prove it is a "closed shop" as the thread title states.


The ex - moderator was last seen yesterday at 21.03. Perhaps he has thought better of his indiscretions, or maybe the now moderators have had another word with him.

His aureole has been slipping for some time as perceptive posters come to realise that the articulate and allegedly even handed ex moderator may simply be a sad and unfulfilled wee boy.

Perhaps he is unable to control his behaviour, Bawheid. For that reason I believe you SHOULD continue to report abuse and let the moderators deal with the matter.



mortonjag 2010-01-14 07:43:18
QUOTE(Grady @ Jan 13 2010, 10:25 PM) [snapback]694867[/snapback]
Get it up ye Rafa. I was about to say something very similar laugh.gif
This guy saved the club from extinction and has flung in a lot more cash than most people would even see in their lifetime!!! So he's hardly a daft old penny pinching fud MJ. Daft-no! Penny pinching-no! As for the other things...well...
No...you said he was a daft old penny pinching fud. Remember?

...and then proceeded to treat it exactly as he chose with wanton disregard for the fans and the future. The chickens have come home to roost gopher.

I sincerely believe that where Greenock Morton is concerned Douglas Rae's behaviour has often been 'daft'. It's patently 'daft' to fling money at managers and players while you treat others like an old Scrooge (the Stan Webster affair is a good example).

As for being a 'fud':

fuddy-duddy (abb. fud)


Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural fud·dy–dud·dies
Etymology: origin unknown
Date: circa 1904
: one that is old-fashioned, unimaginative, or conservative


mortonjag 2010-01-14 08:01:12
QUOTE(Mick @ Jan 13 2010, 10:49 PM) [snapback]694891[/snapback]
Just so that we're being clear: The Club doesn't respond to these 'allegations' and is therefore guilty but we're allowed to believe what we want when it comes to AD, despite his lack of response?

If anything, surely the allegations against AD have a little more weight / credence, given they've actually been confirmed by the Club?
You know the reporter?

If not, that'll be 3rd hand conjecture? Excellent work. If you ever consider a change in career, a job at the 'Tele awaits...just whenever you're ready.
I disagree with the last point - it's not happening (apparently) so end of conversation.....and I don't hear the Club being slammed by anyone other than a few punters on here. Nor do I see why the Club should defend itself against an allegation which is, at best, conjecture, and, most likely, completely lacking in foundation.

Let's face it, it wouldn't take long for a some junior rocket scientist at the Sun to come up with that particular 'exclusive'. Postponements, potential delay to the EssPeeEll, conjestion nightmare....quiet day in the office.....yada yada yada.



QUOTE(Mick @ Jan 13 2010, 10:54 PM) [snapback]694895[/snapback]
That's interesting.
Not that I know you from Adam but if I was given three words to describe you, loyal wouldn't be one. sad.gif

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Destruction of your already flawed logic by a palpably ridiculous comment!

Right Mick: Are you sitting comfortably? Good. Then I'll begin. (though I'll add that I'm giving you the dubious benefit of NOT being another club insider weasel).

A national newspaper stated that an approach had been made to the authorities to switch the forthcoming Morton Celtic cup tie to 'Parkhead or Hampden'.

I'll give you a moment to take all of that in. Right:

An assumption has made by a number of Morton fans that Morton made the approach rather than Celtic. Let's pause a moment while you mull over that - a not unreasonable assumption to make, IF of course the report has substance.

Still with me Mick, or is your mind drifting back to the Millions Uncle Donald stole from poor old Shoogly?

Oh - you're still there -good chap - so you see - all those loyal Morton fans want is for the Club to publicly refute what has been publicly stated, because it looks very much like yer pal Shoogly's yet again tried to work a flanker and sell the support down the river for a few measly pennies.

I'm sorry that the last sentence was rather long, but I do hope you now get the drift. wub.gif smile.gif


mortonjag 2010-01-14 08:07:14
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 14 2010, 07:50 AM) [snapback]695108[/snapback]
You can say what you like about Dougie, but Penny Pinching is not one thing he can be labelled as.

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I have just labelled him so don't argue boy! laugh.gif

He has flung money away big style massaging his own ego and grudges his staff the price of a new toilet roll. It's common knowledge. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 09:34:50
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 14 2010, 08:09 AM) [snapback]695115[/snapback]
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Who's the number one choice then? Bawheid? Mortonjag? Any of Bawheid's family? Spill the beans Jamie.

WOOD EYE? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 09:41:05
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 14 2010, 08:29 AM) [snapback]695126[/snapback]
Fair enough. smile.gif

Btw, how is that African school you helped pay for with your earnings from being a Doctor for so many years? tongue.gif

Oh the Missionary position - PT I'm ashamed to admit that I gave that up a LONG time ago - 69 if I recall.
mortonjag 2010-01-14 09:45:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 13 2010, 10:14 PM) [snapback]694859[/snapback]
Has Edwin gone back to his nomadic way of life ?

Edwin back to humping de camel.
mortonjag 2010-01-14 09:47:23
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 14 2010, 12:17 AM) [snapback]695008[/snapback]
****.

I'm mental.

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mortonjag 2010-01-14 09:51:25
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 14 2010, 09:47 AM) [snapback]695163[/snapback]
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Im so glad you lowered yourself to my level, even for just a second. I appreciated it.

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Yes dear - we seem to have drifted apart of late. Puggs has been my recent focus of attention, and what a come down he is! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 09:54:12
QUOTE(Grady @ Jan 13 2010, 10:44 PM) [snapback]694888[/snapback]
Could people maybe understand we don't need to replace like-for-like? As long as there are 11 eligible players in the team, Morton are allowed to position them where they want to

When did this all start? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 09:58:02
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 14 2010, 09:53 AM) [snapback]695167[/snapback]
I don't look as good in a gnome outfit though. Console yourself with that when it gets you down.

I thought your gnome outfit was lovely - far better than the 'Davie McArthur Fedora and brogues' evening. Incidentally it's a dwarf outfit Puggs wears, and it fits like a glove.
mortonjag 2010-01-14 10:00:51
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 14 2010, 09:03 AM) [snapback]695135[/snapback]
I wasn't insulting anybody - my post was in reply to the ridiculous comment that only the intelligentsia can appreciate Limmy's jokes.

'Twas obviously a silly thing to say! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 10:04:43
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 14 2010, 09:30 AM) [snapback]695148[/snapback]
Don't be dragging me into your homosexual innuendo riddled posts young chow, save them for the Jag. I don't do the choc dip.

So stereotyped - get him to go Mummy for once. blink.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 10:07:02
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 14 2010, 10:01 AM) [snapback]695175[/snapback]
Infact back onto the mod thing.

1.I can take a joke and don't mind being slagged as it's usually me slagging myself.
2. I can be serious if i need to be and wouldn't stand for any pish, although im a believer that not very much thats said on this site needs moderated.
3. Im usually a voice of reason when it comes to Morton, and although lots disagree with what i say (rightly or wrongly) i don't complain about the club for the slightest little things (keeping Dougie on side is a plus point).
4. There isn't really anyone i don't get on with on here, and have no agendas or problems with anyone on here.
5. I'm not a member of any supporters club.
6. Im on here far more than i should be, and read most of the shit that is said on here.
7. I actively dislike Ryan McGuffie.
8. I have two votes from two of the most respected posters on here.
Im hijacking this thread for my own needs now. Bryan i'm not saying make me a mod (although you should do whatever McArthur tells you), but 5th? FIFTH? out of ten. Unless you have cloned Gandhi then i want moved up the pecking order!

I can be serious at times too and I believe you would make a superb Moderator. I'll email you my bank details shortly.
mortonjag 2010-01-14 10:13:45 Update!
mortonjag 2010-01-14 10:17:56
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jan 14 2010, 02:07 AM) [snapback]695082[/snapback]
dry.gif [:w*nker]

I know Bawheid clan from a few years back and whilst they may have divided loyalties, they are a really nice bunch of people. In fact, i bet if the bold NachOrim ever had the pleasure of meeting them he would probably agree and feel like a right knob for being abusive towards them.

I doubt if Mrs Bawheid would be too friendly to him if they ever met now, and trust me, she is a big lassie who could easily knock seven shades of s***e out of him for his cheek.

smile.gif

Not inbreds or grubby little bigots then? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 10:22:26
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 14 2010, 10:16 AM) [snapback]695187[/snapback]
Here here TiD. I think TGG is an alias on here, i think it is someone doing mega s***-stirring. wink.gif

smile.gif

The mind boggles Your Majesty - I imagine that would require a very large spoon.
mortonjag 2010-01-14 10:24:20
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Jan 14 2010, 10:20 AM) [snapback]695191[/snapback]
If only to keep his imature ramblings in one place then when he finaly grows up he can comeback here and visit from time to time as I said once his testicles have finaly dropped as his poofy high pitched rants do my box in. Trust you come from devol wae a nicked pc

Bawheid, I can assure you that PT's scrote is full and running over! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 10:27:29
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 14 2010, 10:24 AM) [snapback]695201[/snapback]
A thread of my own! validated smile.gif

I quite like my high pitched typing, thank you very much.

It nicely complements your pouffery I must say.

Puggs has cancelled Saturday evening as his chanter needs reamed by a specialist.

No pressure mind! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 10:36:32
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 14 2010, 10:24 AM) [snapback]695203[/snapback]
Some of the bitching and squabbling on here seems to have taken everyones mind off slagging you Jaggy, are you feeling neglected? unsure.gif ph34r.gif

That's a good point Your Majesty - there hasn't been any talk of catheters, colostomy bags, or zimmers for ages - indeed the term 'spouting pish' has become somewhat passe.

Calm before the storm I guess -wait till it comes out that I tried to switch Saturdays meeting with PT from the cellar -it'll likely be in the Sun tomorrow.

My pet glow worm's in a massive cream puff because somebody called it a bigoted little grub, the Monkey's off to have his piles done, and Fing's developed a new way to open a Bucky bottle with a sabre. Other that that it's business as usual chez Jaggy.
mortonjag 2010-01-14 10:42:10
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Jan 14 2010, 10:38 AM) [snapback]695217[/snapback]
Just to say how lucky we are to still have a near traditional football ground he is steadily making improvements with out outing the club at risk un like Man Unt who have addmited today they may have to sell their stadium to reduce crippling septa which are spiriling out of control so from me a big thanks tae doogie for still being able to stand on a terracing and have a real pie intae the bargain

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mortonjag 2010-01-14 10:44:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 14 2010, 10:42 AM) [snapback]695221[/snapback]
Well if you finally let me meet you then i'll finally buy you that drink. tongue.gif

You're like the wind, everytime i try to grab you you slip through my fingers.

Dont ask why i try to grab wind, its a long story that has more to do with my mental deficiencies than anything else.

Fart fantasies - by Long Tall Jamie! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 10:52:22
QUOTE(cammy @ Jan 14 2010, 10:46 AM) [snapback]695228[/snapback]
when spoonsy started playing in defence a few seasons ago laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif, were have you been man

smile.gif Fortunately that has stopped, though a wee bird told me that Cappie's a good goalie.
mortonjag 2010-01-14 10:53:18
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 14 2010, 10:49 AM) [snapback]695233[/snapback]
That's the only one I know is an official target, Jonaton Johanssen.

I'd still love to see even one traditional winger.
mortonjag 2010-01-14 10:55:51 Same up here and lying about an inch thick (2.5 cms for the weans).
mortonjag 2010-01-14 11:01:15
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 14 2010, 10:43 AM) [snapback]695223[/snapback]
Surely I'm allowed a night off from message board drama to watch the football?

You're not buying this whole thing about it actually being Bawheid posting, are you? Look at the typing style and compare it to the real Bawheid's posts.

Is somebody trying to stitch you up? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 11:02:36
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 14 2010, 10:57 AM) [snapback]695246[/snapback]
Finally something we can agree on!

see, if you use the forum wisely then you become wiser for it.

Though the pies could be MUCH better and I blame only one man for that. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 11:04:01
QUOTE(cammy @ Jan 14 2010, 10:59 AM) [snapback]695249[/snapback]
alway wondered why they brought david wylie back to the club, but to give him a cat-suit is taking the p*ss imo laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

A formidable sight!
mortonjag 2010-01-14 11:07:09
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 14 2010, 11:04 AM) [snapback]695257[/snapback]
I love the pies at cappielow, i've never experienced any better at any football ground i've been to.

Pie and a Capri Sun. Thats been my staple diet for as long as i can remember.

Canny beat a Killie pie I'm afraid. A wummin (PC Polis will be on soon) in my partner's work lives in Kilmarnock and brings a weekly order of about a hundred pies up to Scottish Power. The greyhound loves them too.
mortonjag 2010-01-14 11:09:46
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 14 2010, 11:05 AM) [snapback]695258[/snapback]
No, I'm just saying that Mrs. Bawheid is posting on Bawheid's account, so we can put aside this fiction that Bawheid's the one posting on this thread.

He just has! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 11:15:40
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 14 2010, 11:08 AM) [snapback]695263[/snapback]
Building football stadiums out of concrete, shocking stuff.

Proper stadia are constructed of steel.
mortonjag 2010-01-14 11:28:09
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 14 2010, 11:13 AM) [snapback]695269[/snapback]
Do you have a greyhound? i have two. I didn't like them at first as they didn't seem to have any personality and one of them was scared of men so wouldn't come near me. Now i love them both although Freya is still scared of me when im standing up but is getting better and recently has started walking over to me now.

It's also hilarious that they cant turn around in tight spaces and have to reverse out.

I'm pretty sure you got Freya from SGS where our wee Jinty came from!
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mortonjag 2010-01-14 11:36:36
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 14 2010, 11:29 AM) [snapback]695282[/snapback]
Im intrigued to know how you know this. :lo:

Mortonjag has many confidential sources! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 11:38:34
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jan 14 2010, 11:01 AM) [snapback]695252[/snapback]
Sadly there's not many of them about, those who are capable are all being asked to be attacking fullbacks mad.gif

Who would you say was our last traditional winger?

Twaddle might qualify but he was often used as a centre forward, I honestly can't think of the last out and out winger we had.

Andy McLaren possibly - but I agree there ain't many wee Willies or Jinkys left.
mortonjag 2010-01-14 11:41:04
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 14 2010, 11:35 AM) [snapback]695288[/snapback]
Excellent! The guy is a legend. He got my my tickets and then said he'd kill my family if i tried to pay for them, or words to that effect. My mind is hazy what with being overjoyed at getting free tickets.

Will be good to meet you both for a drink. smile.gif

Heard Franco is a dab hand with the ball c*cks! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 11:43:49
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jan 14 2010, 11:40 AM) [snapback]695294[/snapback]
come on bawheid.. you at the windup.. the only reason cappielow has stayed the same is due to lack of investment in the ground.. while almost every other club of our size has 'moved on' , upgraded to meet the 'new modern way of life' cappielow has stayed still.. I like that though, but it didnt happen with the good foresight of ddfr, it happened because he wouldnt spend the money NEEDED.. to bring cappielow up to 'modern day' standards.. so if you are happy with cappielow now.. then it's the original club founders you need to thank...

forgot to add.. the pies are stinking.. even if you manage to get a hot one.

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They have upgraded the stand bogs and put nice blue slippy tiles down outside the pie stall.
mortonjag 2010-01-14 11:47:30
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 14 2010, 08:18 AM) [snapback]695119[/snapback]
Why not pay for it like you should? You'd be petty pissed off if I walked into your cellar and nicked a pair of you handcuffs.

Because I'm a cheat.
mortonjag 2010-01-14 11:53:50
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Jan 14 2010, 11:49 AM) [snapback]695310[/snapback]
Susan Boyle has got more chance oh getting her hole than u

She can indeed afford it!
mortonjag 2010-01-14 12:08:48
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jan 14 2010, 11:58 AM) [snapback]695320[/snapback]
you know what jag, thats the sad thing, we keep getting minimum upgrades, which unless were required by law, i doubt would have been carried out, they paint over the rust and it comes back after weeks, and yet there are still people on here willing to buy into the, ddfr has mortons best interests at heart club... ffs why wont these p[eople realise that he cares not one jot for any of us, he can afford to toy with the club because he is finacialy secure, but in reality, there is only so much money he could waste, and i'm sure his prioruty is his family... not morton football club and most certainly not the fans... what we get is what he wants us to have.. nothing more , nothing less... although for last 3 years is has been considerably less.

Yes Warrior, I do know all that, but every time I mention it I'm accused of having an 'agenda'.
In particular I agree strongly with the part highlighted. It's not as if Mr Rae has been unaware of others' opinions about a proper youth set up and so on. He just isn't interested in anybody's opinions except his own, yet we still get clowns who seriously tell me to go to his stage managed shows to 'get answers' or to attend AGM's where he can say exactly what he pleases and is believed.

SS Shoogly is on a perilous course.
mortonjag 2010-01-14 12:10:10
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Jan 14 2010, 12:08 PM) [snapback]695328[/snapback]
Just wondering as bank turned down 80 million offer to buy one half of the old firm today that is serious cash

mortonjag 2010-01-14 12:14:21
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 14 2010, 11:54 AM) [snapback]695315[/snapback]
I don't see how you can't hate gay people, they come over here....stealing our jobs. mad.gif

shagging our boyfriends
mortonjag 2010-01-14 12:16:40
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jan 14 2010, 12:08 PM) [snapback]695329[/snapback]
You have a colleague who says awesome laugh.gif !

Fanny!

I had a packet of crisps yesterday - burned at the stake hamster flavour and well - just AWESOME! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 12:21:22
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 14 2010, 12:19 PM) [snapback]695350[/snapback]
Ahhh the infamous MJ gets banned night. Seems like such a long time ago and you're right you have walked away from it, so much so that i forgot it even happened and that you were part of it.

I'd like to state categorically that I don't know whether Scotty is a POUFFE or not! blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 12:22:52
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 14 2010, 12:12 PM) [snapback]695339[/snapback]
Ah, Bryan is here. Expect TID to come along any minute whoring himself out trying to steal my job. Shameless he is, absolutely shameless.

Is TiD's ring in the hat too?
mortonjag 2010-01-14 12:24:34
QUOTE(irnbru @ Jan 14 2010, 12:15 PM) [snapback]695344[/snapback]
It was £18 million which wouldn't even clear their debt.

As for Morton its hard to judge due to the link with Golden Casket, etc but I'd guess it would take about £1-2 million to buy out the Raes.

mortonjag 2010-01-14 12:28:20
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jan 14 2010, 12:26 PM) [snapback]695361[/snapback]
Hes not!!!!

Andrewridgleyton can vouch for that ph34r.gif

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mortonjag 2010-01-14 12:31:48
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 14 2010, 12:30 PM) [snapback]695368[/snapback]
Good Bryan so I have have no record of any sectarian abuse. Thanks for clearing that up Bryan.

Would you be offended if I described you as a bigoted little grub? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 12:33:04
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 14 2010, 12:30 PM) [snapback]695369[/snapback]
all right, smartarse, that should've read the first half of August - my wife works in education and I could quite easily be on holiday then.

Dinner lady?
mortonjag 2010-01-14 12:40:52
QUOTE(steveoath @ Jan 14 2010, 12:30 PM) [snapback]695371[/snapback]
If its just to stream music get a free spotify account from HERE. They were supposed to "not allow" free accounts without an invite, but this is a backdoor to get one.

Plus if you like the stuff, you can download it.

Steve

Thanks, and thanks to all who went to the bother to reply.
mortonjag 2010-01-14 12:51:26
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 14 2010, 12:49 PM) [snapback]695387[/snapback]
Yes. laugh.gif

Then I shan't! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 12:53:52
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 14 2010, 12:15 PM) [snapback]695345[/snapback]
Amen.

Oh shit, i forgot i hate catholics.

Might be the way you're cooking!
mortonjag 2010-01-14 12:58:02 Well Cappiecat should have had a reply to his email by now.

Any news Cappie? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 12:59:23
QUOTE(Madton @ Jan 14 2010, 12:57 PM) [snapback]695401[/snapback]
Grady also said he would play Jim on his natural right side..that lasted one game!!

Hes naturally left footed so it would make sense to play him out left with Jim in the centre or at rid mid.

..or on the bench.
mortonjag 2010-01-14 14:01:03
QUOTE(Rampage Nu Sport @ Jan 14 2010, 01:06 PM) [snapback]695405[/snapback]
I'm looking forward to seeing the game at Cappielow (whenever it takes place - I see snow falling again).

BUT may be we do have to get real. There are folk on here wanting us to splash cash on new players, setting up a proper youth structure (and countless other ideas which are genuinely great). Yet at the same time we're also encouraged to sneer at the club exploring avenues to maximise revenue. And this all against a backdrop of a club which loses money year after year. Even if we were a charity (which we aren't), then we'd be expected to breakeven (which we don't).

It would have been a shame to have to go to Hampden to beat Celtic, but if that had helped bring in more money - and hence supported our long term ambitions - perhaps we should have done so?

I've not heard anybody sneer at the idea of maximising revenue before. My idea of maximising revenue from this tie is to beat Celtic and get an even better draw. Realistically that is improbable at Cappielow and MUCH MORE IMPROBABLE elsewhere.

QUOTE(tontastic @ Jan 14 2010, 01:11 PM) [snapback]695408[/snapback]
Last week with the weather that we were having and reports that it would extend for another two weeks if i had been sitting in Cappielow wondering when the game would go ahead, i would want to know if any contingencies were possible.

I don't think its unreasonable to ask the SFA it that was possible so you could then investigate possible alternate venues with under-soil heating.

In my opinion it would be reasonable to seek an alternate venue *if* the weather was the factor in it, and if moving suited the SFA's schedule.

That's stating the obvious, and if the case I'm surprised it was knocked back. Still a possibility.

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 14 2010, 01:21 PM) [snapback]695414[/snapback]
Yeah but of course it doesn't stop the usual on here going mental before the facts are known.

Or you may simply choose to accept 'the facts' since they've been presented in black and white and not refuted (a la Uncle Donald situation)! dry.gif

mortonjag 2010-01-14 14:05:55
QUOTE(Rampage Nu Sport @ Jan 14 2010, 01:10 PM) [snapback]695407[/snapback]
As asked on another thread - what does the signing of an attacking central midfielder who Grady says will play most matches mean for Jenkins? Whilst I can see some occasions where we might want to play with two attacking midfielders, generally I'd expect us to stick with one attacking and one defensive central midfielder, meaning a lot of time on the bench for Jenkins.

Jenkins is a formidable player when on form - but for me that form doesn't come often enough (say one in every three games he plays).

Any thoughts?

He's an attacking midfielder, left footed and left sided who can play left wing, get crosses over and score goals - that's NOTHING at all like Jenks, but definitely what we've been hoping Jimbo would become. Sadly it just hasn't happened.
mortonjag 2010-01-14 14:10:10
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 14 2010, 01:22 PM) [snapback]695416[/snapback]
Sounds very similar to the last girl who told me I was a ride.

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QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 14 2010, 01:53 PM) [snapback]695439[/snapback]
He deleted and re-done it wink.gif

did ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 14:13:02
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 14 2010, 02:03 PM) [snapback]695443[/snapback]
Before McLaren the last one was ------ Walker (his first name escapes me). It's a very long time since we or any other side had two wingers in the same side, I think McNeil and Tolmie was our last such combination. What's been more common over the last few years is a winger at one side and an overlapping full back on the other.

Celtic are probably the exception to the recent norm, as they normally have two overlapping full backs AND two wingers.

Paul Walker?
mortonjag 2010-01-14 14:15:33
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 14 2010, 02:07 PM) [snapback]695448[/snapback]
Stop your Jibber jabbering. Please do not call him Tiddles. Mr T gets my vote. Calling him Tiddles makes him sound like a **** cat.

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDPerhaps 'Tids' would be best -it suits whether he proves to be great or just a disappointment.
mortonjag 2010-01-14 14:21:46
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 14 2010, 02:19 PM) [snapback]695463[/snapback]
or Michael ?

Much too saintly and reeks of M & S.
mortonjag 2010-01-14 14:23:32
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 14 2010, 02:16 PM) [snapback]695460[/snapback]
Are you Marti Pellow or one of the Hairy Bikers ? laugh.gif

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Neither though I was at one time well acquainted with Marti Pellow's brother!
mortonjag 2010-01-14 14:26:26
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 14 2010, 02:25 PM) [snapback]695472[/snapback]
My thought is that a 3-5-2 accomodates all three desirable midfielders, while reducing the wide 'undesirables'.

Undesirable wideos! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 14:27:11
QUOTE(RankinBorn75 @ Jan 14 2010, 02:26 PM) [snapback]695474[/snapback]
I doubt you would get the club for it's true value while Douglas owns it , he has put that much money into it he wouldnt sell for the true value which I guess would be £1 Million ..

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mortonjag 2010-01-14 14:28:17
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 14 2010, 02:26 PM) [snapback]695476[/snapback]
oooh you old name dropper you. Are you Chrisopher Biggins then with all those showbiz pals you shirley must be an actor.

No, though I once shared a bedroom with Melanie Brown! blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 14:37:27
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 14 2010, 02:35 PM) [snapback]695485[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif I once was on stage as a contestant with Jim Bowen in a summer show version of Bullseye at Blackpool in the 80's and the auld cnut nevereven gave me a bendy Bully and I got my letter read out onT.V. by Glen Michael on the cavalcade show.

Impressive stuff! I have also shared a bedroom with Neil Sedaka! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 14:49:25
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jan 14 2010, 02:46 PM) [snapback]695498[/snapback]
About the trust money?

What do you know?

This sounds sinister already! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 14:56:25
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Jan 14 2010, 02:43 PM) [snapback]695495[/snapback]
You know as well as i do, that calling someone a fud, doesn't mean that they are old fashioned or conservative. It means they are either;

1) A clunge
2) A set of Gammon goalposts
3) a set of Lamb hangings
4) A fanny
5) A muff etc. etc.

Don't be facile.

What YOU mean by a 'fud' and what Mortonjag means by a 'fud' clearly differ.

Mortonjag has a degree in English from a proper University and prefers the former definition in description of Mr. Rae, who is palpably 'old fashioned, unimaginative, and conservative' - indeed Mortonjag uses that definition by way of a term of endearment for the old fud. wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 15:01:47
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jan 14 2010, 02:51 PM) [snapback]695502[/snapback]
Just know that there is an issue....Nothing else was said to me as the person didn't want to betray a confidence.

And quite right too!

So there is some burning issue about the Trust money! huh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 15:04:28
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 14 2010, 02:41 PM) [snapback]695492[/snapback]
No way. Now that is impressive. What age were you ? Sweet sixteen. laugh.gif
Are you sure you are not Christopher Biggins.
I once was sixth equal in a Blue Peter poster competition and got a book mark and a Blue Peter badge.

Good God - not a real Blue Peter badge?

I twice shared a bedroom with Jim Baxter. Sadly on the second occasion he was dead.
mortonjag 2010-01-14 15:09:51
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 14 2010, 03:05 PM) [snapback]695518[/snapback]
Ah well, you know that wee recording device I was telling you about located in the ......
laugh.gif

Just goes to show its so easy to start a 'sh1te' thread and have folk up in arms in an instant.

..not the same one that ......... used before he shot the craw with all Shoogly's MUNNY? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 15:11:32
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 14 2010, 03:03 PM) [snapback]695514[/snapback]
Language evolves. We've had this discussion before. wink.gif

I don't give a flying f*ck about the fact that today's weans can't speak their native language! mad.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 15:14:29
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 14 2010, 03:12 PM) [snapback]695524[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif Really ? Is that true.

He said 'recording - not 'vibrating' - you may be confusing the boss with the chief exec but I hasten to add that I merely make the suggestion.
mortonjag 2010-01-14 15:15:11
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 14 2010, 03:14 PM) [snapback]695527[/snapback]
What language? Scots? English? Australian? or American. laugh.gif

Yes
mortonjag 2010-01-14 15:17:45
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 14 2010, 03:16 PM) [snapback]695529[/snapback]
Is that another exclusive? laugh.gif

It's just the buzz about Cappielow! happy.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 15:19:01
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Jan 14 2010, 03:17 PM) [snapback]695530[/snapback]
I agree with most of your post apart from the bit in bold. Big Neilly gets Nam style flashbacks if he goes past the half way line and i imagine a wander into the 18yrd box would result in his body just turning itself inside out!

Scored a cracker at Cowdungbreath mind you! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 15:22:24
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 14 2010, 03:20 PM) [snapback]695535[/snapback]
When Is The Proverbial Going To Hit The Fan?

This is a good question mate. This will depend on a few factors.

1. The speed of said fan.
2. The speed of said proverbial.
3. The trajectory of said proverbial.

If the trajectory and speed are spot on then the mess could be ginormous. If it's out a bit then the cause and effect is not as good.

I await the results with baited breath.

Any particular fan Weegie - if it's proverbial sh1t we're talking about can I nominate Boozy as he'll take it like a man?
mortonjag 2010-01-14 15:23:45
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 14 2010, 03:22 PM) [snapback]695540[/snapback]
Fixed it for you.

I'm off my periods right now
mortonjag 2010-01-14 15:25:50 Still nothing from the Club or Cappiecat.

Maybe he DID get a reply and is having it framed to shove on EBay! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 15:27:58
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 14 2010, 03:25 PM) [snapback]695544[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif What about Biddie Baxter?

Doesn't ring any bells I'm afraid though Jinky spoke to me on the 'phone several times. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 15:31:47
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Jan 14 2010, 03:26 PM) [snapback]695548[/snapback]
Get wi the programme ya old fart! Just because you haven't seen a clack dish in about 20 years doesn't mean you should have forgotten what it is!

p.s. why the feck would i care what kind of education you have on a football messageboard? I got my hair cut 3 weeks ago, just thought you should know.

I'll 'old fart' you, you disrespectful young whippersnapper. My partner cuts my hair while we're - you know - keeps me young at heart.

Had a trim last night by the way. angel.gif

Christ, she's just told me she missed a bit.

See yese all later! bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 16:36:33
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 14 2010, 03:38 PM) [snapback]695563[/snapback]
laugh.gif She told me that yesterday at the mid day matinee. She said the haircut she gave you was spot on. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I've to ask if you're the one with 'I love Ludo' tattooed on yer knob -apparently she didn't charge because you couldn't rise to the occasion! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 16:42:00
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jan 14 2010, 03:05 PM) [snapback]695517[/snapback]
Here we go again! Another thread full of spurious comments, innuendos, speculation and 'I've heard.'
Please post again when you have facts and are able to share with us, who said what and when, and that will save us all a lot of time.


That'll be you, Shoogly, Crawford, and.....away back to your bible reading you humourless sod!
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 14 2010, 03:33 PM) [snapback]695560[/snapback]
soon

Sexy lump - it's been a while coming! bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 16:44:07
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 14 2010, 04:40 PM) [snapback]695603[/snapback]
Stenny chairman probably blew his load when he found out (assuming he assumes it will be Celtic).

I'd assume you can safely assume that he assumes it will be Cellic, dwarf.

What exactly does 'blew his load' mean? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 16:46:49
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jan 14 2010, 03:28 PM) [snapback]695552[/snapback]
did ddfr not say when he took over he had a five year plan to get morton back to where we belong (which is premier league for most of us).. so what has happened.. did dougie mean 5 doggie years.. whay are we still fighting relegation and season after season the happy clappers say.. wait till next year... what are you waiting on dougie..

Everything was going fine until Uncle Donald stole the blueprint and f*cked off with all the MUNNY! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 16:47:58
QUOTE(TiTon @ Jan 14 2010, 04:19 PM) [snapback]695584[/snapback]
Game aff. Tuesday oan, Ye herd it hear.

Tit on?

Are you trustworthy? wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 16:56:43 There is absolutely no way that the Club will not by now be well aware of the concerns expressed here. WHAT IS THE ANSWER?

It gets worse by the minute - the Club and the fans are poles apart - just as Rae wants it. Either he's proved yet again that he treats us with contempt by not getting this question answered pronto, or as I believe more than ever, the Sun got it right.

Who will be the first slimy sycophant to attempt further justification of the unacceptable silence?

Some of you wimps would let a Midden fan pish in your faces before saying 'Thank you very much'. rip.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 18:29:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 14 2010, 06:00 PM) [snapback]695639[/snapback]
So we follow the clubs line on Uncle Donald then seeing as he has failed to refute the claimes? smile.gif

Claims? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 18:31:32
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 14 2010, 06:07 PM) [snapback]695645[/snapback]
Jesus! Damned if you do or don't.

The club let you know there is a pitch inspection and when. Any other information is just fodder! If they came on thinking it would get played and was then off they would be vilified for it, and vice-versa.

They have passed the message needded.

Needed? dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 18:35:19
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 14 2010, 06:03 PM) [snapback]695641[/snapback]
Read my post!

He probably tried! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 19:03:37
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jan 14 2010, 06:38 PM) [snapback]695672[/snapback]
When I first heard about it, I assumed that we had asked to have it moved because Hampden has undersoil heating and would be more likely to host the game during the current weather problems. The tie will struggle to go ahead on Tuesday in my opinion and I'm sure both clubs would rather the game went ahead sooner rather than later as supporters' enthusiasm wanes.

If it was done purely for financial reasons, then I would be disappointed as I love it when Cappielow is packed to the rafters, but some folks' reactions on here suggest that they should really find something more important to be worried about. If you are struggling, have a wee think about the people in Haiti: they have real worries; not some pathetic moan about a rumour as to why a wee football team made tentative approaches to play a 4th round Cup tie at another ground (probably to avoid further postponement due to the weather).

The starter of this thread has a well-documented (by himself) agenda and does not merit further bandwidth.

If you mean that Mortonjag believes that the owner of the arse over which you currently slither your slimy brown tongue (albeit by proxy) doesn't give a f*ck about the fans, then yes - Mortonjag has a LEGITIMATE agenda.

Rae despises yellow bellied mindless creeps who doff their bunnets, though he'll grasp all the support he can get from such despicable creatures.

If the Club deliberately asked for a reschedule purely to make a few extra bob while throwing away home advantage and what slim chance we have to progress (especially now the Pars are out), the fans have again been sold down the river. There are no two ways about it.

Anyway, it'll be of no concern to you now that you've sold your ticket and donated the proceeds to the Haiti earthquake fund. rip.gif thumbdown.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 19:07:03
QUOTE(ritchifan @ Jan 14 2010, 06:52 PM) [snapback]695699[/snapback]
5 Year plan lets not kid ourselves, we don't have a 5 month plan.

A management team with a probation till the end of the season !

A second hand stand that we cannot afford/organise putting up!

Our so called best player going to sign for the jags !

So long as ayr and airdrie are worse than us the board seems quite happy to collect our money at the door and carry on !

Sounds just about right.
mortonjag 2010-01-14 19:10:40
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 14 2010, 06:29 PM) [snapback]695662[/snapback]
Can't inbreds be nice? I've met plenty nice folk from Ayrshire. Could argue some were a little grubby too! ph34r.gif

You can be pleasant on the odd occasion. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 19:14:15
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 14 2010, 06:43 PM) [snapback]695683[/snapback]
Was that a song you were taught at Bible class by some "rocking, get down with kids reverend"

Kinda! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 19:16:36
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 14 2010, 07:15 PM) [snapback]695720[/snapback]
That's better McArthur. All the anarchists that I've known have been barking mad, but amusingly so. Somehow I reckon it's good to be mad in our so-called sane society.

ROCK ON TOMMY! thumbup2.gif bouncy.gif nerd.gif bag.gif 1eye.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 19:20:56
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 14 2010, 06:27 PM) [snapback]695659[/snapback]
So first it was 'these days' and now you are talking about the last 12 years...if not more.

Aye, good one! laugh.gif

If you don't like what you see, eff-off. Simple. Running your mouth on a silly wee internet forum will do nothing.

Are you f*ckin' brain damaged ya wee plank? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 19:31:57
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 14 2010, 07:18 PM) [snapback]695724[/snapback]
When I first started watching Morton in the mid-90s this was a fixture. Every time a player's name was read out before the game there'd be a wee "waaay!" from the shed. You hardly ever heard it now except on big matches. I'm just wondering why this is. I know no responder can speak for everyone but for me, it's because until very recently, half the players I didn't even want to be at the club.

Sadly the shed is dead.
mortonjag 2010-01-14 19:38:16
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 14 2010, 07:31 PM) [snapback]695736[/snapback]
If I remember correctly we had many applications from managers or potential managers who would be classed as good "1st division type managers", so what is your point??

Ach don't bother, it'll be all down to twelve years of mismanagement, as you've said elsewhere.

Bit of a poor man's moronjag, really, aren't you? And that would be a poor man indded.......

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Mortonjag has access to enough wealth to buy that old fud out Mucky Boy. Nae borra! smartass.gif

Rae simply conned those applicants - he was ALWAYS going to appoint JG and AM, because he's skint!

Anyway I'm assuming he showed you all those applications, or are you just another sad sack who actually believes a word he says? wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 19:39:45
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 14 2010, 07:36 PM) [snapback]695741[/snapback]
case proven, methinks, eh, Pat? laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2010-01-14 19:41:13
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 14 2010, 07:33 PM) [snapback]695739[/snapback]
well, bugger aff and start yer OWN thread then! laugh.gif

What a scintillating and intelligent response to a legitimate viewpoint! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 19:43:46
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 14 2010, 07:21 PM) [snapback]695727[/snapback]
Must be a generational thing. All the anarchists I have known have been Trustafarian tosspots.

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mortonjag 2010-01-14 19:45:36
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 14 2010, 07:24 PM) [snapback]695729[/snapback]
haha I was gonna do it and then wisnae and then I was.
I am just passing the time of day Davie. You don't strike me as the kinda guy that even knows what a spam fritter tastes like?
PS One day to go.

I'm kinda sorry you'll be turning into a pumpkin Guv - you've taken a fair bit of pressure off Jaggy! sad.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 19:47:13 Apparently Patasaurus is lending his weight to the cause. dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 19:51:28
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Jan 14 2010, 07:47 PM) [snapback]695756[/snapback]
in 2003 i was told it was the ambition of morton to be playing uefa cup football in 4 years time

Source?
mortonjag 2010-01-14 19:53:38
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 14 2010, 06:03 PM) [snapback]695640[/snapback]
Deposited his man-moo everyone upon hearing the news Rattler smile.gif

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mortonjag 2010-01-14 19:56:07
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Jan 14 2010, 07:54 PM) [snapback]695767[/snapback]
port ton is a loser

port ton is a Morton fan
mortonjag 2010-01-14 20:00:47
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Jan 14 2010, 07:45 PM) [snapback]695752[/snapback]
graduating from the university of life would be one university graduation more than you have would it not? never underestimate a working class uneducated intellectual.

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That's a bit of a conundrum. I think 'self educated' would tie up the loose ends and I entirely agree with you.

Old Cokey -our dustman in Kilmacolm was a Fellow of the Society of Antiquaries, and a bloody good dustman too.
mortonjag 2010-01-14 20:06:51
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Jan 14 2010, 08:02 PM) [snapback]695778[/snapback]
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It might have been so different.

Hang your head in shame Shoogly! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 20:09:30
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jan 14 2010, 08:07 PM) [snapback]695785[/snapback]
Yes, and now they owe the Banks £9m. Thankfully we have DDF bankrolling us from his personal fortune. Still, let's crucify him anyway. unsure.gif

What's the score about trying to get the game shifted Smiffy? Could you ask the old fud as some folk would like to know?
mortonjag 2010-01-14 20:12:17
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 14 2010, 08:08 PM) [snapback]695786[/snapback]
The Prof.

"Professor James Pickett admits that four businessmen have left the consortium since it placed its first offer in April.

But he insists that the three remaining members have sufficient funds to buy the club"

Are said four businessmen still on the go 'cos if they are they could con Shoogly into getting onto the Board, run up a huge bar bill and f*ck off to America just for fun.
mortonjag 2010-01-14 20:13:24
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jan 14 2010, 08:11 PM) [snapback]695789[/snapback]
The offending quote from the BBC forums by "Paradise1967": -

"I feel sorry for the Pars fans, its typical when something positive happens, i.e. 7-1 win and a tie against Celtic in the next round....there is garuanteed to be some bad news to dull the joy. The Pars dont deserve such a harsh sentence... Its like being given a two year jail sentence for being caught smoking a joint.
SFA won't change their minds either, even if there an appeal, they love to weild their power and flex their muscles against the smaller, weaker teams.
I was looking forward as a Celtic fan to a trip to East End Park, the two teams have strong links going back over many years. A great atmosphere and probably a decent game would have been on the menu(thats what the cup is all about surely) But hey ho! Stenhousemuir should not be embarrassed either, as they have done nothing wrong, the 7-1 result never happened...did it? According to some rules the tie is null and void....just means everybody knows there has been an injustice in the East of Scotland. The blame lies with DAFC, no point trying to appeal as we all know that Sweet FA is going to change their ruling. Gordon Smith is not for turning, unless there are Rangers players involved of course, then they bend over backwards to shoehorn banned players back into the fold. Politics Politics Politics. Shocking decision!!"

As Jim rightly pointed out on real Radio - See ya at Cappielow first Ya Tube!

I might even bring my Irish passport with me just to wave it in their faces.... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


What did the old fud say about the attempted rescheduling Dave? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 20:15:42
QUOTE(Toby @ Jan 14 2010, 08:11 PM) [snapback]695788[/snapback]
It would appear that the bigots are not infact barred, given that Chis McEleny is still freely posting on the board after his vile sectarian rant in my direction last night smile.gif.

Is he also grubby and little?
mortonjag 2010-01-14 20:22:12
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jan 14 2010, 08:16 PM) [snapback]695795[/snapback]
You could always ask him directly at the next Q & A session, or are you likely to be in London again.
You sad old git. laugh.gif laugh.gif

That's very true Smiffy but you see there are lots of folk who want to know.

Not like you to dodge a question. Why is it that you smartass pr1cks cream yourselves with delight every time you steal a march with inside information, yet every time a valid question is asked of that faltering old fud you worship, you deflect or make a personal attack. I'm far from being a 'sad old git', and Shoogly IS a faltering old fud! ph34r.gif

Did he ask for the tie to be rescheduled?
mortonjag 2010-01-14 20:25:03
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 14 2010, 08:21 PM) [snapback]695804[/snapback]
One club Morton will be hoping not to emulate is Hamilton, who have been without their own ground since leaving Douglas Park in 1994. The £6 million received for the sale of the site has been spent and fans hold the club’s owner Jim Watson responsible for the failure to secure a new ground.

From WSC 153 November 1999

That is a sobering statement.

Sold down the river! mad.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 20:29:12
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 14 2010, 08:25 PM) [snapback]695812[/snapback]
McGraw with one I will never, and neither should any ton fan, forget.

"And we are also appreciative that Greenock juniors have sent us £100 as they are a small club who do not have any money. "

Makes the Trusssssssssssssssht's investment look quite big! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 20:31:10
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 14 2010, 08:25 PM) [snapback]695814[/snapback]
You jest of course Alibi. You know well that the gruesome twosome are above the law and exempt from all rules. Sellik could probably field twelve players and get away with it.

What a grubby little bigoted statement! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 20:35:52
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jan 14 2010, 08:30 PM) [snapback]695817[/snapback]
Bugger, I knew there was somthing that I had to ask him today..... blush.gif rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

Well at least you didn't call me a sad old git like yer pal Smiffy. C'mon Davie boy - fount of knowledge on all financial matters at GMFC - that's a f*ckin' poor show if you ask me. You know the answer and you ain't saying so the old fud's obviously guilty! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 21:00:40
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jan 14 2010, 08:50 PM) [snapback]695837[/snapback]
Mr Mj, if you think that my working day is filled only with your agenda then you may have a slight disappointment coming your way - it is not! In this instance my silence only signifies that I did not ask him the question - ho hum indeed. Just for the record I also did not ask for his next five year plan, what he thinks about non-cognitivism versus the deontological approach debate or who is his favourite character from Thomas the Tank Engine! Indeed, I cannot say with any authority if he even has a favourite from TTTE!

Just for the record, I do not know who "Smiffy" is....

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You lucky little donkey!

So Dave, despite the fact that you are Shoogly's spy, and despite the fact that you come on here all high and mighty with detailed knowledge of the Club's intricate finances, and despite the fact that you knew full well last night that genuine and loyal Morton fans were demanding an answer, and despite the fact that the Sun newspaper stated unequivocally that a request was made to have the tie rescheduled,

YOU DID NOT ASK HIM THE QUESTION!

There can be no doubt that you COULD have asked him the question. I suggest that you failed to ask because you were feart it would make the old fud uncomfortable - either that or you already knew the answer.

Could you maybe 'phone him just now and ask? He is the Chairman, and you are his donkey, and the fans DO want to know. blush.gif

mortonjag 2010-01-14 21:03:10
QUOTE(STILLTON @ Jan 14 2010, 08:54 PM) [snapback]695843[/snapback]
The last poll i sen said that the golden casket group/morton were 64 million in the red assets and all!
Dont know how accurate it is....... dry.gif

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mortonjag 2010-01-14 21:04:17
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 14 2010, 08:55 PM) [snapback]695844[/snapback]
I'd blame Cafflick Skools but thats probably an invitation for a ban.

What a grubby little bigoted remark! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 21:06:32
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 14 2010, 08:58 PM) [snapback]695846[/snapback]
Good man !

Possibly.
mortonjag 2010-01-14 21:10:15
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Jan 14 2010, 09:04 PM) [snapback]695856[/snapback]
Shut the **** up ya coc suckin rodent did I ask you tae speak
and just for the record I'm making spagetti bolonais for ma dinner whot you having kenomeat laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2010-01-14 21:22:39
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Jan 14 2010, 09:07 PM) [snapback]695858[/snapback]
no you have made several references and also anti irish sentiments also. most recent that comes to mind was the mr potato head one. and if you find the word that shall not be filter passed(unless your a mod it is allowed) offensive then i apolgise.

Chris I honestly haven't read any of the stuff but I'm curious about this. Somebody said today that you are a Celtic supporter. I'm wondering if that's correct, and just to reassure you of my bona fides, so is my daughter and my son in law - season ticket holders.

So here's my question - if you are a Celtic supporter, what's the point in your being on a Morton pubic massage Board?

A long while ago I was warned (the warning has never been chalked off) by ex mod Nach0 because a poster who on reflection can fairly be described as having had a wee bit of a chip on his shoulder about Catholicism made a very nasty post accusing me of inciting religious hatred. His post was offensive and quite inaccurate and I responded with one of my usual gentle rebukes. He then deleted the post before Nach0 could see it.

Anyway my point is this - there is a commonly held belief that some Catholic folk tend to get a bit paranoid about persecution by the 'other side' a belief that's not only held by protestants. We don't want bigotry or religious discrimination on this massage board, and I'm honestly wondering why you are here.

mortonjag 2010-01-14 21:26:27
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 14 2010, 09:23 PM) [snapback]695873[/snapback]
err, YOU'RE the one clutching at straws actually.

We've never been that big a team in living memory, except maybe for a few years from say 1963 to the early 1970s; never as big as Aberdeen, Dundee, Motherwell and others.

We should only be playing in the Premier if results get us there, not because of your slanted idea of "history". If history had anything to do with it, Queens Park would be in the SPL all the time - and, in case you haven't noticed, they ain't.

Patronising plamf! mad.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 21:31:21
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 14 2010, 09:28 PM) [snapback]695876[/snapback]
Aye! Gerritroonye!!
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Didn't miss you ya plonker -dreamt you were away on holiday on the Titanic! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 21:33:23
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Jan 14 2010, 09:31 PM) [snapback]695879[/snapback]
can assure you i am a morton supporter. used to go to every game but now only go when i dont have a game myself. the celtic supporter thing is a fallacy

Well that clears that up and we need as many supporters as we can get.

A serious question then. Is it possible that you could be letting others upset you when you really shouldn't?
mortonjag 2010-01-14 21:35:38
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 14 2010, 09:34 PM) [snapback]695882[/snapback]
I dreamt there was finally a breakthrough in the Middle East peace process....... and then YOU managed to start posting on their messageboard....... tongue.gif

Edwin Bedouin get to de many far places! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-14 21:39:40
QUOTE(garymcc1874 @ Jan 14 2010, 09:35 PM) [snapback]695884[/snapback]
I hope the club don't mind me posting their response to my email here and I don't imagine they will:

That's about as clear as mud to me. Blame Celtic and hope this goes away.

If Rae wanted to stick to the rules why be 'prepared to discuss the matter at all'? If he had wanted home advantage as the fans do, why be prepared to discuss the matter at all? Was he hoping that they might fling in Gowser on the cheap or summit?

I smell a rat. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 09:49:59 Our Chairman had advised them that switching the tie to Parkhead was against the rules of the competition, and while we were happy to discuss the fixture with them (based on their concerns regarding the extreme weather and the fixture backlog), we had stated from the beginning that the SFA rules quite clearly state that the tie will be played at the home ground of the first club drawn in the ballot, and both ourselves and Celtic contacted the SFA who then confirmed that this rule would stand.

With regards to playing at a neutral venue to ensure that the tie went ahead as quickly as possibly, we certainly listened to Celtic's suggestions regarding this, but again there are strict SFA guidelines in place determining the criteria for a neutral venue - it is required to be "the nearest registered ground of equivalent capacity", so Hampden would not meet this criteria. We understand that Celtic had looked into the possibility of suggesting St Mirren Park, however we would have been unable to agree to this if for no other reason than the capacity would not have been sufficient to accommodate the tickets which had already been sold.
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mortonjag 2010-01-15 09:55:11
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jan 14 2010, 10:56 PM) [snapback]695944[/snapback]
Thanks, but I'm afraid I am not Pat. I made this name up on the old board without realising that there was a "Tonosarius" (or something similar) who was Pat. I know who Pat is and know his son to say "hello" to, but I'm not the man himself!
Specifically in what way does he not "give a f*ck about the fans" as you so cleverly put it. Well done, I bet all your psychology training came in super handy for that turn of phrase.

And these "yellow bellied mindless creeps," are you referring to those with cirrhotic livers? Or are you referring to yourself: a cowardly old man at the spearhead of a vehement campaign to smear the name of the chairman of the local football club, himself never responding to the inane ramblings posted on a messageboard.

Your penultimate paragraph is answered by the post below, consigning yet another tedious thread of yours to the messageboard abyss (hopefully!).

As for your parting remark, I am just generally disappointed with a lack of humanity in a man who took the hypocritical Hippocratic oath (though I suppose we do deal in rumours).

Just for clarity, I have spoken to Douglas Rae once in my life and have no affiliation with the club other than my support as a fan, so save your petty insinuations that everyone who sticks up for anyone associated at the club must be in contact with the chairman.
Clinging to the last hope of unfounded conspiracy and rumour to fulfil yet another misguided prophecy? Go to bed.

Ach away and bile yer heid Gillian. Will I 'phone Kevin Sweeney today just to check the Cellic version? Cowardly old man indeed? Well at least Mortonjag's identity's no secret! wub.gif

Anyway it was good of you to confirm that the club tried to re-arrange the venue!
mortonjag 2010-01-15 10:04:30
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jan 14 2010, 09:59 PM) [snapback]695900[/snapback]
4 posts, 2 smilies total content.

I have you on ignore, so rarely bother with any threads you get involved in or read any posts, but really what is the point of this person.

Don't demean yourelf Piehole - you do try hard! wub.gif

QUOTE(C B @ Jan 15 2010, 09:47 AM) [snapback]696112[/snapback]
911 Turbo rolleyes.gif - too much do you think?

You've still got that rust bucket. Latest Audi's much more civilised, don't you think? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 10:07:52
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 15 2010, 09:27 AM) [snapback]696098[/snapback]
Listen folks the lad is still bitter as what he see's as being conned into his last contract. I don't blame him for wanting out.

You appear to suggest that the Club would treat a faithful player unfairly!
mortonjag 2010-01-15 10:16:29
QUOTE(SkinTON @ Jan 14 2010, 11:46 PM) [snapback]695995[/snapback]
laugh.gif Brilliant

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mortonjag 2010-01-15 10:23:13
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 15 2010, 09:56 AM) [snapback]696121[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif Yip caught good and proper.
Inverally my man. Could you do me a big favour. When the game goes ahead could I place a request for a good friend of mine who has been through quite a lot recently and will be at Cappielow. The aforementioned person would appeciate "All you need is Love" by some popular beat combo The Beatles. Have you heard of them ?
Cheers Inverally
PS You should have been a detective you old fox. How did you figure it all out.

Any particular 'Jim', Guv? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 10:26:33
QUOTE(C B @ Jan 15 2010, 10:18 AM) [snapback]696135[/snapback]
I only got it last July, fook sake how long do you keep your cars for blink.gif

and no that Skank down the road thats sleepin with Lovell has the Audi R8, I don't like it tongue.gif

Have a look at the latest 'What Car' - I love the 911 turbo but that beast sounds awfy impressive!
mortonjag 2010-01-15 10:35:07
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 15 2010, 10:32 AM) [snapback]696151[/snapback]
Jim Jeffries. laugh.gif

Good gracious Jim - honoured to have you on our massage board. I believe that guy Johnson's Baby Powder business isn't doing so well hence all the cut backs.

Our wee club's fine mind! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 10:38:35
QUOTE(C B @ Jan 15 2010, 10:32 AM) [snapback]696152[/snapback]
I will have a look in Tesco's magazine rack wink.gif

Regardless though, its not as quick and its......well....its an Audi rolleyes.gif

I've kinda got over the ultimate speed thing though I confess it took a LONG time. My remapped 330i's about as much as I can really use properly those days, though the boy sometimes gives me a wee shot of the Aston Martin! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 10:46:08 WELL!
mortonjag 2010-01-15 10:48:11
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jan 15 2010, 10:46 AM) [snapback]696158[/snapback]
Back on topic.

It really all depends on how much money Dougie would would be prepared to sell the club for. Once you have that figure you can then work out how to raise the money and buy the club.

Don't worry Stu - the way things are going the Trussssssht will soon snap it up - unless of course there are any unforeseen financial issues! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 10:50:23
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 15 2010, 10:48 AM) [snapback]696160[/snapback]
Lets face it, this hasn't been a great season so far for McAllister. He looked good in our pre-season games and since then his form has fallen dramatically.
He looks unhappy and you get the feeling he has lost the will to live playing for Morton.
Jim showed great promise coming into the first team as a youngster. But his developement as a player has come to a shuddering halt.
He never possesed a final ball or telling pass, and has never had composure in front of goal. He gives all the effort in the world in games and is great at running at the opposition defence.
I honestly don't know what level Jim can play at. Right now I don't see him as a SPL player.
A new Club and a new lease of life may bring his development on. But right now as it stands, he won't progress as a player here at Cappielow.

If you feel you've been 'stitched up' by the boss, it does tend to affect your loyalty.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 10:51:56
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 15 2010, 10:48 AM) [snapback]696161[/snapback]
or you could estimate it yourself and give him an offer he couldnae refuse?

£2 million and still in total control would just about do it I imagine! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 10:53:13
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 15 2010, 10:52 AM) [snapback]696165[/snapback]
I don't understand what you mean blink.gif

It's on JonaTON's blog somewhere. I thought it was common knowledge.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 10:56:56
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 15 2010, 10:43 AM) [snapback]696155[/snapback]
Was that yon scary song that time and again put the goal keepers off when they were doing kick outs.
That was So effective in its day must have caused so many goalies to hang up their boots in disgust.

It's not so very long ago that the weans at the Sinclair St. end used to do the 'SKITE' thing - it actually came out a split second AFTER the ball had been kicked -that just made it all the funnier! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 11:10:57
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 15 2010, 10:54 AM) [snapback]696167[/snapback]
Link ??? happy.gif

Jonaton's blog is prolific and doesn't appear to have a search facility. It was a report on an interview given by Jimbo to a football magazine in which (as I recall) he appeared to imply that the Chairman had persuaded him to sign a new contract without making him aware of simultaneous interest from other clubs. When asked for his assessment Jimbo said the Chairman had been 'astute' or a similar word - but the tone of the report was that he was far from chuffed.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 11:16:00
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 15 2010, 11:12 AM) [snapback]696176[/snapback]
These polls are becoming tedious. If the Unionists are so sure that Scots won't vote to break up the UK then we surely would have had a referendum by now and kill the SNP stone dead.
One thing is for sure, most Scots want a referendum no matter what way they will vote.

More Unionist propaganda from a Unionist newspaper....no surprise I'm afraid. rolleyes.gif

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Polls are always tedious when they don't say what you want. It's interesting to read that lots of Scots are happy to have more devolution. The problem with their current attitude to independence is below:
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mortonjag 2010-01-15 11:22:52
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jan 15 2010, 11:15 AM) [snapback]696177[/snapback]
I find you quite amusing, if I'm looking to feel better about myself I just read some of your posts and that usually cheers me up no end. You’re good for a laugh......at. laugh.gif

You are obviously as arrogant as your arch nemesis, did Dougie really shag your missus or is that just a rumour, and in fact you’re probably a bigger arrogant **** than he is.

And can you please stop calling me Stu !!! I'll say it once more cloth ears your wrong.................... But then you’re never wrong are you?

Are you sure you’re not Dougie in disguise. The parallels are really quite frightening. You have your own band of apologist, just like Dougie, you are arrogant just like Dougie, you think your always right, just like Dougie, even when proved wrong, you love the limelight just like Dougie. In fact I often wonder if the reason you don't like Dougie is because you see so many parallels with your self.

You are indeed a sad person, but as I said keep posting or you'll deprive me of one of the simple pleasures in life. laugh.gif

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You do get upset when Mortonjag posts! Stu/Jim whichever or some previously unidentified big knob in the Trusssssssssssssshht -you've both denied it. I hardly think Jim Pickett's going to lower himself to kennel level!

If you don't want me to call you Stu, and would like some credibility Measles, just name and shame yourself! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 11:35:52
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jan 15 2010, 11:29 AM) [snapback]696186[/snapback]
You obviously have difficulty with your eyesight. Read my last post, I love it when you post. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Nope you're not as bright as the narky old Prof - not by a long chalk. I don't mind amusing you Measles. If my posts are half the joke to you that yer Trusssssht is to me, I guess you must keep a spare litter tray in yer kennel. wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 11:38:34
QUOTE(Lost in Space @ Jan 15 2010, 11:26 AM) [snapback]696184[/snapback]
I don't think the Chairman is obliged to notify one of his employees of another employers interest in said employee!

If you were looking for a new job, would you tell your manager. Two sides of the same coin. Jim needs to grow up if he feel bitter about it. This is the real world, not some school playground.

Jim, should get on with it and play his best for his current employers until such time as that situation changes.

Fulfilling statutory obligations and maintaining respect do not always equate.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 11:41:17
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 15 2010, 10:45 AM) [snapback]696156[/snapback]
Gonnae not rub it in MJ. Literally. laugh.gif

I sprinkle it on, Guv! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 11:50:29
QUOTE(Lost in Space @ Jan 15 2010, 11:46 AM) [snapback]696192[/snapback]
I don't think there is a respect issue there at all personally. Jim himself must have known of the interest from other clubs. If so, he should have brought that up at his contract negotiations. If he did, and Rae neglected to tell him the truth, then we definately have an issue. However, I don't think that's the case here.

In fact, it would be fair to say that Rae had enough due respect for a player with some ability to want him to stay at the club.

Best to read what was said in his interview. Maybe somebody can find it - as I said JonaTONs (superb) blog is extensive.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 11:51:45
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 15 2010, 11:50 AM) [snapback]696195[/snapback]
Hello Dougie laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2010-01-15 11:57:19 ...and your signature's getting a wee bit tired! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 12:01:33
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jan 15 2010, 11:57 AM) [snapback]696198[/snapback]
Litter trays are for cats you senile old fool. Now, are you sure your not Dougie? Your beginning to act and sound more like him as the days go by.
But please don't stop posting which Dougie did, I look forward to reading your drivel as I said your good for a laugh.

I may not be as bright as the "narky old Prof" but we do share the same aspirations when it comes to Morton Football Club. wub.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Professor Pickett states Trussssshhht well on way to buying out Chairman! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 12:37:33
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jan 15 2010, 12:32 PM) [snapback]696207[/snapback]
blink.gif When did you last see McAlister play MJ?

It's a wee bit naughty of Mortonjag to reply on Guv's behalf Smiffy, but Mortonjag's never had the pleasure of playing Jimbo at anything, though he'd give the wee boy a damned good hiding at Scrabble. Would you like a game of Scarbble in Mortonjag's cellar Smiffy? wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 12:42:20
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 15 2010, 12:40 PM) [snapback]696214[/snapback]
greenockmortonfc.blogspot.com - Jim Naive To Sign Contract Extension (12.11.2008)

There is a search function by the way. It's on the top left of the page as you look at it.

TY -that will much simplify my life. Oh and keep up the good work. If half the weans on here read your blog they wouldn't be so perpetually misinformed! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 12:45:28
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 15 2010, 12:43 PM) [snapback]696219[/snapback]
Never mind that story. Check out the telegraph for a belter of a front page one.

Today's Tilly?

Don't tell me he's........................! blink.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 12:47:36
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 15 2010, 12:45 PM) [snapback]696220[/snapback]
Big style. Your not a big a diddy as some believed yow were.

I'm sensing news guys - do tell! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 12:52:01
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 15 2010, 12:49 PM) [snapback]696225[/snapback]
For out of towners.

Basically the CID have been called in as a few grand has went missing from the stars of 79 night organised by the trust. The trust called the polis in when they realised the dough has went walkies.

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Do you have a link to this story please, and as I'm not a Trust member I'm curious to know who is in charge of the MUNNY? blink.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 12:53:08
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 15 2010, 12:47 PM) [snapback]696223[/snapback]
See the topic below.

TY Jim! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 12:55:22
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 15 2010, 12:52 PM) [snapback]696228[/snapback]
According to today's Scottish Sun Rowan Alexander is back in football; he has been appointed Mark Shanks assistant at junior side Glenafton Athletic.

It's a very humble start for a man still rated very highly by many Ton fans. Given the subsequent exposure of Mileson and doubts over DI's integrity, I still wonder what the REAL story was at Gre£na.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 12:58:04
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 15 2010, 12:53 PM) [snapback]696230[/snapback]
Don't think its on th net yet, I actually broke the habit of a lifetime and bought the Tele (well pre-ordered it if you know what I mean)

Well I refuse to make any comment before I've read the details, and then I'll possibly comment! blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 13:00:40
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 15 2010, 12:58 PM) [snapback]696235[/snapback]
Struggling to see how the loss of a couple of grand that is owed to the Trust is a laughing matter MJ.

That this story was kept under wraps till today on here is the biggest surprise !!!!!

TonInDublin

I don't think it is funny in the slightest TiD. Why do you suggest I was 'laughing'? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 13:02:45
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 15 2010, 01:01 PM) [snapback]696239[/snapback]
More than a couple TiD, double? even quadruplethat amount? who knows, in fact does anyone know? I'm not so sure they do in actual fact.

That suggests to me that it wasn't an accident. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 13:04:55
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jan 15 2010, 01:03 PM) [snapback]696242[/snapback]
Would any of the snipers who shot me down for not passing the details on please now apoligise....

You can see my reasons for NOT spilling the beans..I knew about the dosh but not the wheres and whys

Apologies are never forthcoming on this massage board Flight. ESPECIALLY when you've told the truth and been pilloried for it! blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 13:06:01
QUOTE(tontastic @ Jan 15 2010, 01:04 PM) [snapback]696245[/snapback]
I would ask all posters to consider carefully anything that they post on this matter given the ongoing investigation. Any posts made that be seen to cast judgement or question events in a prejudicial way will be removed without notice and posting rights restricted as required.

I endorse that wholeheartedly.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 13:07:54
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 15 2010, 01:06 PM) [snapback]696248[/snapback]
The contract negotiations with Jim are a great example of DDFR's complete lack of people management skills. And you can throw PR in there again as well !

My understanding is that he was left under no illusion that he had very limited options when it came to resigning. Which wasn't the case.

TonInDublin

Amen brother!
mortonjag 2010-01-15 13:10:52
QUOTE(Mick @ Jan 15 2010, 12:40 PM) [snapback]696215[/snapback]
I'm sure he has a range of methods which he employs to bump up his post count.

Anyways, back on topic, I agree with Puggs - nothing more was actually required. End of matter.
There'll be plenty of time to make arrangements if the game passes inspection.

Have to say, though, that I am surprised that the ground is still frozen. Over the last 4 days or so there has been a fairly thorough thaw and it hasn't been freezing overnight.

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mortonjag 2010-01-15 13:14:23
QUOTE(se65an @ Jan 15 2010, 01:11 PM) [snapback]696257[/snapback]
Just heard that the game is on, or so says Midtons, and MJ swears his word is God rolleyes.gif

Yip - Kojie was, is, and always will be a star in my sky!
mortonjag 2010-01-15 13:16:10
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 15 2010, 01:10 PM) [snapback]696254[/snapback]
laugh.gif Are you that cunning detective Jessica Fletcher from Murder she wrote?

Nope - just a cowardly old man! crying.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 13:19:51
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 15 2010, 01:14 PM) [snapback]696265[/snapback]
So do you agree the club gave enough information required?

Haven't a clue what you're talking about son - the club sometimes gives information, and sometimes it keeps information to itself.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 13:27:07
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 15 2010, 01:20 PM) [snapback]696282[/snapback]
Agreed. But its still a topic for debate as many will be interested to know if they themselves have lost out. Once our good old plod get to the bottom and the facts and figures become clear we can all have a shouting and pointing fingers match. But as the tele see it as front page news its certainly one hot topic.

I genuinely would not like to be a mod at the moment (and i know I started the thread) as they will have to watch posts very carefully or ban talk altogether if people don't stick to the rules on this one. But that would have happened anyway.

I agree with that and I agree with Tontastic's comments. If the matter is sub judice it's probably bettter not to speculate about the 'whys and wherefores'.

Let's face it, there have been many allegations about missing money on this massage board without the truth ever having been discovered.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 13:35:40
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 15 2010, 01:22 PM) [snapback]696287[/snapback]
Nice to read the online story in the Tele of Tidser's signing where he said that Monti had spoken regularly to him about how GOOD things are at the club and that was a big decision in him signing for us despite interest from elsewhere.

No doubt the doom mongers, wind up merchants and rumour dealers like MJ will be down about this for at least 5 minutes until they dismiss it as more "Shoogly Propaganda".

There's no doubt that JG's putting some sparkle into the dressing room Ratarse.

Any particular rumour by the way? Would you like me to start a rumour about a wee chap from East Kilbride who believes that everything in life is black or white, and takes a furry Donald Duck to bed with him at night? wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 13:38:10
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 15 2010, 01:32 PM) [snapback]696303[/snapback]
Seems like some folk don't give up even in the face of the weight of evidence saying otherwise. With every post you discredit yourself that wee bit more.

Time will tell as it always does. smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 13:43:33
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jan 15 2010, 01:39 PM) [snapback]696320[/snapback]
Yeah but surely if we all agree that nothing good can come from this thread then we can manage the posts by informing mods as soon as they are posted .

I know there has been a lot said about censorship/mods recently but surely the only outcome of this on the board is bad for us as fans and the club

Scott - it's in the public realm now - published in the Tilly, and it won't just go away. I agree with Tontastic that we should be very careful with what we say, but this is an unofficial massage board for Morton fans, and surely people are sensible enough not to say anything which might prejudice the ongoing investigation.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 13:52:30
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 15 2010, 01:39 PM) [snapback]696319[/snapback]
Where do I start?

Well first off there's the "Davie Irons will be gone in the Summer - Fact" rumour.

The Alistair Donald posts

And so the list goes on.

My furry Donald Duck is not so furry anymore, it's been worn out.

Rae WAS going to punt Sheep Lips in the summer before a 'hitch' developed. The information I published was accurate.

Why don't YOU get your facts right? laugh.gif

As for the AD situation, we still await Mr Donald's side of the story.

I'm fascinated to hear all about those other figments of your fertile imagination alleged (today's in word) rumours.

Oh, and who mentioned YOUR Donald Duck - though it's nice of you to admit you have one?

Will it be OK to start a new thread about Ratarse's Donald Duck? If you want me to keep it confidential I promise I will, and then all the usual nice people can accuse me of all the usual nice things. smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 13:55:53
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 15 2010, 01:52 PM) [snapback]696342[/snapback]
In relation to the thread and posts I have made Rattler.

Even Mortonjag's time is somewhat rationed dwarf!

If there's a particular question you want to ask, please do so, and I may or may not answer! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 13:57:36
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 15 2010, 01:53 PM) [snapback]696344[/snapback]
Maybe he should have got an agent instead of swaggering about like a self-made man

Allegedly?
mortonjag 2010-01-15 13:59:57
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 15 2010, 01:47 PM) [snapback]696331[/snapback]
Allegations please be careful what you say.

HMM -that's an interesting point Mr Jefferies - the issue will be judged in due course! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 14:01:12
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 15 2010, 01:21 PM) [snapback]696285[/snapback]
You really are a bitter, twisted old fool aint you smile.gif

Allegedly! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 14:01:58
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 15 2010, 02:00 PM) [snapback]696355[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2010-01-15 14:03:23
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 15 2010, 02:01 PM) [snapback]696358[/snapback]
I'm sure if you resize 2 windows you can post with one hand here and rip the hied aff with the other.

Here's a question for you then.

Are you supposed to be working at the moment? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 14:04:21
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 15 2010, 02:02 PM) [snapback]696361[/snapback]
Not so fast Barbarossa.Going anywhere in particular ??...... God I will need to stop watching Murder she wrote. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Probably just out for a walk with the dog or whatever.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 14:08:41
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 15 2010, 02:05 PM) [snapback]696365[/snapback]
You said that Irons would definitely be sacked, not just that Rae intended to, so it was inaccurate. That's a fact.

Did I? I certainly stated that Sheep Lips was 'for the off' in the summer - on the basis of information I'd received.

What others chose to make of that I can't really recall. I will, however, make much more use of today's word 'allegedly' in future! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 14:10:19
QUOTE(stu_1874 @ Jan 15 2010, 02:09 PM) [snapback]696373[/snapback]

B*STARD
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mortonjag 2010-01-15 14:28:48
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 15 2010, 02:26 PM) [snapback]696388[/snapback]
Players are "tapped" outside the transfer window. If Motherwell was truly interested he would have known about it for sure.
Rae was trying to tie his biggest asset to the Club, can he be faulted in that ? If Motherwell wanted him they could have put a bid in or at least made it official.

Perhaps they did!
mortonjag 2010-01-15 14:29:59
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 15 2010, 02:13 PM) [snapback]696378[/snapback]
CODE
I GOT IT WRONG AGAIN

Somebody at the club got it wrong again dear! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 14:32:15
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 15 2010, 02:28 PM) [snapback]696389[/snapback]
mortonjag
Group: Fun Patrol
Posts: 33,008
Joined: 28-July 05
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Member No.: 457
QUOTE(se65an @ Jan 15 2010, 01:11 PM)
Just heard that the game is on, or so says Midtons, and MJ swears his word is God

Nice wee edit sean. was willies ladder too wee. tongue.gif

You just cannot accept the bald truth those days. happy.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 14:35:20
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 15 2010, 01:47 PM) [snapback]696333[/snapback]
Independence is itself a form of devolution max. How can people seriously vote for devolution max when they don't know what is being devolved? It's a bit of a con trick frankly - if there were to be a referendum and that option was chosen without being spelt out explicitly, Labour would then allow dog licenses to be devolved and say "but you asked for devo max and that's what we've given you". And yes, I know we don't have dog licences any more which is precisely why they would offer that.

Unfortunately Bawheid (the political version) has made it a form of REVOLUTION, and that's been a monstrous mistake IMO.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 14:37:52 Old fart fines accused for farting.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 14:38:51
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 15 2010, 02:33 PM) [snapback]696400[/snapback]
At no time did I say the game was on, on the other hand I would have been able to see over the wall had my big ladders not been up someones loft.

You allegedly DID! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 14:41:07
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 15 2010, 02:38 PM) [snapback]696407[/snapback]
Judging by your ethics on here I would not like to comment on any professional code of conduct you swore to.

I wasn't aware of 'a code of ethics' for the 'rag' Kojie and I do hope that comment is intended to be jocular.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 14:43:20
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jan 15 2010, 02:40 PM) [snapback]696410[/snapback]
the all seeing japs eye of barbosa knows more than us mere mortals again

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mortonjag 2010-01-15 14:44:52
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 15 2010, 02:39 PM) [snapback]696408[/snapback]
I have always said on this forum that the only polls that count are the ones at the election.

I have every confidence that a referendum will be won by those seeking independence. The manipulation of the media by the unionists merely confirms that.

So you still think Bawheid's headed in the right direction?
mortonjag 2010-01-15 14:45:43
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jan 15 2010, 02:43 PM) [snapback]696415[/snapback]
in the words of jim jeffries, if your over 25 and still go to nightclubs you are, a dick

YOU know better, surely! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 14:47:24
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 15 2010, 02:44 PM) [snapback]696416[/snapback]
it was...
**allegedly**

Good - it's just that Jaggy get's a bit touchy about such matters! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 14:51:05
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 15 2010, 02:47 PM) [snapback]696420[/snapback]
Thanks clapped oot your words will be such a great comfort when I go.
Are you a doctor? Just that your bed side manner has all the signs of someone in that proffesion. laugh.gif
Sorry Clapped oot. I have had a stay of execution for a couple of weeks. Might be know bad thing as I reckon it it is gonna be very interesting on here for a change. laugh.gif

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'Clapped oot is not a doctor, Mr Jefferies, but he does have his finger on the pulse. Anyway that's good news about you not being discharged yet. As you say, many interesting things are coming to pass!
mortonjag 2010-01-15 14:54:17
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 15 2010, 02:50 PM) [snapback]696423[/snapback]
Jaggy would do well to take on board a bit of the advice he gives out on his own profile.

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Believe it or not, Kojie, Jaggy DOES, and in superabundance. It's quite difficult though to work out which posters do and don't have their own personal psychiatrists as Jaggy does! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 14:55:24
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 15 2010, 02:52 PM) [snapback]696425[/snapback]
Yes he can. The result has been another success.

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mortonjag 2010-01-15 16:19:04
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 15 2010, 04:02 PM) [snapback]696482[/snapback]
And above all:
Why the hell did they get in touch with the SFA to confirm a rule that was already "clearly stated"?!

I agree with that and your earlier comments. The Club was asked to respond to the allegations in the Sun, and thankfully has confirmed that they UNDOUBTEDLY entertained the possibility of playing the tie at a different venue.

That is a FACT. Folk may reach their own conclusions about motivation etc.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 16:32:45
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 15 2010, 03:09 PM) [snapback]696434[/snapback]
Exactly.

It's great to blame Rae with the benefit of hindsight for some on here.

The thread is about Jimbo who appeared to be 'blaming' Rae!

QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 15 2010, 03:16 PM) [snapback]696438[/snapback]
Instead of that he hatched a brilliant plan allegedly. The cunning old fox if the stories are found to be true. The player has went off form of that there is no doubt.
Result for GreenockMorton:
1)Not worth the same price now on the market.
2)Will he leave with a bitter taste in his mouth of what could have been ?
Why rae thought he would never be found out is remarkable again. If the allegations are true ?

I wonder whatever happened to honesty and integrity. Those words used to be so much linked to football but now its just as bad as politics.

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QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 15 2010, 03:18 PM) [snapback]696439[/snapback]
what does that mean, exactly? How can that move the debate forward in any way, shape or form?

No wonder you've accumulated such a ludicrously high post count (or, rather, high count of ludicrous posts!)! happy.gif


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mortonjag 2010-01-15 16:39:59
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 15 2010, 03:15 PM) [snapback]696437[/snapback]
Mr Salmond is one of the most astute politicians on these islands. He is up against a very hostile Unionist media who spin anti-Salmond, anti-SNP propaganda on a daily basis. 3 main Unionist parties who unite as one against the very idea of independence.
Under these circumstances, I believe he has performed brilliantly !

Every politician is up against very hostile opposition media, and propaganda.

My conclusion about Bawheid is based on my observation of the unfolding of events and of the creature himself. I make no bones about disliking him as I do all politicians, though I still embrace the concept of an Independent Scotland.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 16:47:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 15 2010, 04:42 PM) [snapback]696511[/snapback]
Aye very good, admit it. You came on here (and probably yourself) when you heard what you thought was gospel and couldn't wait to tell all...without any evidence to back this up.

It has now blown up on your face (again, may have happened when you heard also) and you can't accept that.

Oh well...I got a signature change out of it smile.gif

The decision to be rid of Sheep Lips was made by Mr Rae - not by me. His intention was that they should part company in the summer. That would have happened had an unforeseen problem not arisen. Everybody at the Club knows that to be a fact -it IS gospel!

Your change of signature is from an irrelevant question to a blatant fib. Mortonjag NEVER gets things wrong as you very well know. happy.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 16:49:51
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 15 2010, 03:25 PM) [snapback]696447[/snapback]
Don't sweat the small stuff Davie.
See the Good Doc if you need a sprinkle of the fairy dust on them. Allegedly. laugh.gif

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It has an unforgettable smell too Guv! You'd be astonished if you knew how many adults use it AND what they do with it! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 17:02:55
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 15 2010, 04:48 PM) [snapback]696516[/snapback]
Yes, it looks to me like they were never seriously entertaining the notion and were telling Celtic where to go as politely as possible.

That's exactly how it's intended to look, but it would surely have been simpler to say something like: Greenock Morton FC is aware of recent reports in the Sun newspaper, and would like to reassure fans that at no time did the club entertain the possibility of playing the fixture at a neutral venue'. WHY couldn't they say that?

The email has been carefully thought out and ambiguity has been carefully introduced. The club hasn't lied as it makes clear that the possibility of playing at a neutral venue WAS entertained.

In business the politest thing to do is to be straight and honest -that's what gets respect, and when the alleged approach was made by Celtic, a courteous 'No thank you' was all that was required.

If Mr Rae GENUINELY wanted home advantage more than all else, that's what should have been done.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 17:06:47
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 15 2010, 05:03 PM) [snapback]696538[/snapback]
Have they? I asked another guy earlier in the thread about this. I am a smart guy, I have no trouble with reading comprehension exercises, but despite having read this several times I still can't answer the question: did Morton contact the SFA about getting this game moved to a neutral venue.

"With regards to playing at a neutral venue to ensure that the tie went ahead as quickly as possibly, we certainly listened to Celtic's suggestions regarding this, but again there are strict SFA guidelines in place determining the criteria for a neutral venue - it is required to be "the nearest registered ground of equivalent capacity", so Hampden would not meet this criteria. We understand that Celtic had looked into the possibility of suggesting St Mirren Park, however we would have been unable to agree to this if for no other reason than the capacity would not have been sufficient to accommodate the tickets which had already been sold."

I see the straw man of St. Mirren Park being erected and then dismantled. All I see in the Hampden part is ambiguity (and a grammar error - it should be criterion, not criteria.)

I believe that's a female thing! blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 17:11:39
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 15 2010, 05:09 PM) [snapback]696549[/snapback]
I have the papers to prove it... from a proper university, even smartass.gif angel.gif

Snap and snap! blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 17:22:06
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 15 2010, 05:02 PM) [snapback]696536[/snapback]
Yes. How can I be of service to you ?

Our father who art in the Willow
Greenock Guv be thy name
Thy voddies come
Thy will be done
On the massage board
As it is in the Shed
Lead us this day not into speculation
But deliver us from evil Shoogly
For his is the club, the stadium and the players
FOR EVER AND EVER
Amen.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 17:25:28
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 15 2010, 05:12 PM) [snapback]696556[/snapback]
Morton contacted the SFA, further clarifying that the tie couldn't be moved. Fine, they still weren't going to do it.
They wanted to give the full story, so there was no ambiguity. Come on, if they'd just said that one sentence you'd be complaining that it wasn't in depth enough and the reason they weren't giving the full story was because they had something to hide.

There's no ambiguity here whatsoever, you're just picking holes in the grammar when you know fine well what the club means.

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OH YES THERE IS!

QUOTE(capitanus @ Jan 15 2010, 05:22 PM) [snapback]696576[/snapback]
Ach well, he's pretty fond of folk called Alistair, isn't he?

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Jobby! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 17:28:27
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 15 2010, 04:59 PM) [snapback]696530[/snapback]
Fair enough; you are entitled to your opinion. However can I ask how you think we will ever get independence if we don't support the only current plausible vehicle heading in that direction. the SNP?

I desperately want into the SPL and I'll NEVER endorse Rae's shenanigans!
mortonjag 2010-01-15 17:32:47 It's not often that I support Tontastic, but I'm right behind him on this, simply because I don't want to prejudice the chances of nailing the culprit if indeed there HAS been any irregularity.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 17:34:24 YER A GLAICET WEE PLAMPH

That is all.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 17:40:24
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 15 2010, 05:38 PM) [snapback]696596[/snapback]
Our father who art in the Willow
Greenock Guv be thy name
Thy voddies come
Thy will be done
On the massage board
As it is in the Shed
Lead us this day not into speculation
But deliver us from evil Shoogly
For his is the club, the stadium and the players
FOR EVER AND EVER
Hallelujah. Spread the word. I have spent 40 days and forty nights in the wilderness( well my scratcher. ) and now I have come back from my bed. Repent ye spinners.

When will Shoogly rise again oh all seeing one?
mortonjag 2010-01-15 17:44:17
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jan 15 2010, 04:52 PM) [snapback]696518[/snapback]
And if you want to see a dog humping a midget, then Click Here.

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JESUS - FIRST LABRADOODLES AND NOW LABRADWARVES
mortonjag 2010-01-15 17:45:26
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 15 2010, 05:43 PM) [snapback]696602[/snapback]
I predict he will rise tonight............................... then sit back down again in his comfy chair as he forgot what he was getting up for. laugh.gif
Give us a break. I am good but I am not that good at working Miracles.

You're not really God then? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 18:07:42
QUOTE(rawheed rex @ Jan 15 2010, 06:04 PM) [snapback]696626[/snapback]
not dead just asleep shutup.gif crying.gif

The shed shall rise again.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 18:10:56
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jan 15 2010, 05:49 PM) [snapback]696612[/snapback]
unsure.gif huh.gif

How can anyone post that many times in the one day and still have time to eat, sleep, s*** and work?



QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 15 2010, 05:55 PM) [snapback]696617[/snapback]
I genuinely wish that what we are, and aren't allowed to discuss on an internet forum was all I had to worry abiout in life.

But it ain't - and if it is for any of you - then you are either independently wealthy, sad or out of touch with reality.

As a wise man once said ....

Life is ever
Since man was born
Licking honey
Off a thorn

not

Life to some posters
Is the need to fret
And posting pish
On t'internet.

Over to Ernie for the follow up.

TonInDublin

ps by the way, seriously, the mods called this one spot on.


Life is ever
Since man was born
Posting here
Or watching porn blush.gif

mortonjag 2010-01-15 18:12:23
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 15 2010, 06:11 PM) [snapback]696634[/snapback]
Yes, I'm basing it on the explanation.

OWE DEER! sad.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 18:18:05
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 15 2010, 05:49 PM) [snapback]696609[/snapback]
I have never come close to giving anyone a warning on here MJ, but to be perfectly honest with you, if you post something like that again you will definitely be the first.

Your spelling of glaikit is not acceptable on any forum - now - get it sorted - and dont do it again.

TonInDublin

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Puggs -yer a gay clit wee plamph.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 18:28:51
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 15 2010, 06:19 PM) [snapback]696645[/snapback]
There's nothing to suggest the enquiries weren't made to get clarification that would strengthen their position of politely telling Celtic to **** off.

The email suggests that Morton did NOT want anything other than a home tie.

...yet they entered into discussions when it was entirely Morton's call. If they wanted the tie played at Cappielow -AS SCHEDULED AND AS SPECIFIED IN THE RULES, they should have politely said 'No'. What would have been so difficult or unprecedented about that?

That they did not is a clear indication that they entertained the alternative. As I said earlier, the motives for doing so are debatable.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 18:52:18
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Jan 15 2010, 06:37 PM) [snapback]696663[/snapback]
They dump their shi* in here?

How does a long retired doctor afford so many jaunts to London? ph34r.gif

1st time I've used that smiley, primarily because I've not got a clue what it means.

Mortonjag is short! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 18:56:45
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 15 2010, 06:51 PM) [snapback]696672[/snapback]
10 pages ph34r.gif

He'll be playing wee choons on his chanter probably - it's the only way he knows to charm his snake.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 19:12:30
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jan 15 2010, 02:09 PM) [snapback]696374[/snapback]

I wonder how they got wind of the story.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 19:14:12
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 15 2010, 07:12 PM) [snapback]696681[/snapback]
Not to the degree that Salmond and other Nationalist politicians are. The media is very pro-Union/anti-Nationalist.

You only have to look back on the Sun headline at the last Holyrood elections.

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDSpurtle you may very well be correct, but it doesn't affect me because I prefer to make my own judgements.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 19:16:39
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jan 15 2010, 07:10 PM) [snapback]696679[/snapback]
but not of time

smile.gif Retirement has many disadvantages - shortage of time is not one!
mortonjag 2010-01-15 19:23:13
QUOTE(calton @ Jan 15 2010, 05:55 PM) [snapback]696618[/snapback]
Lets be honest, if he was that good, someone would have wanted to pay money for him and apart from the Motherwell interest 2 years ago, no one has offered any money.

So he may have been good in our team but no one else is willing to buy him and he has been poor this season.

If he had ambition to move on, he should have been playing out his skin this season to get the best move possible.

I agree - Jimbo was always one of my favourite players until a year or so back. He now comes over at times as a huffy prima donna who argues back at the 'touchline' and his fellow players, and who quite frankly doesn't seem that interested. There's always this Cellic match mind you, and I've little doubt that the Chairman will be reminding him that it's the chance of a lifetime!
mortonjag 2010-01-15 19:25:10
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 15 2010, 07:23 PM) [snapback]696693[/snapback]
Aw this thread got all kinds of awesome while I was away!

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDListen to me dwarf - your signature is now completely silly, and PLEASE don't remove it.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 19:26:07
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Jan 15 2010, 07:23 PM) [snapback]696692[/snapback]
I take it you are the new mod then since you're so anxious to point it out in numerous threads?

He's been a Mod for ages! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 19:28:23
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jan 15 2010, 06:17 PM) [snapback]696642[/snapback]
Grady better have a fullback coming in then.

Masterton shouldnt be getting punted either in my opinion. We have no creativity. If the new boy is brilliant then fair enough but thats yet to be confirmed. If Masterton gets space he can play the killer pass, his problem was always a lack of awareness of the opposition and confidence issues (or the shed yelling at him as its also known). Both could be sorted.

Gradys started to worry me.

He can't win - he's plainly been told he can sign players if money is saved - mind you Masty going and McGregor staying is a mystery except that Davie's always been a Shoogly pet!
mortonjag 2010-01-15 19:34:13
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 15 2010, 07:28 PM) [snapback]696698[/snapback]
Aye, imagine taking the questions the original person asked...and answering them!

And lets think about this.

Celtic made the suggestion

Someone mentioned Hampden, they said why it could never have been Hampden in the first place.

Apparently Celtic were going to suggest St Mirren's ground too but even before it was suggested Morton clarified the rules.

Sounds to me like Morton basically checked out everything even before a suggestion was made so they could basically tell Celtic where to go if they asked about it.
Simple!

Things are always simple for simpletons. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 19:42:07
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 15 2010, 07:32 PM) [snapback]696701[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2010-01-15 19:43:03
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 15 2010, 07:35 PM) [snapback]696704[/snapback]
McGregor will be off at the end of season. Defensive cover just now, nuthin to do with Shoogly

Was Walker THAT unfit? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 19:43:52
QUOTE(garymcc1874 @ Jan 15 2010, 07:38 PM) [snapback]696707[/snapback]
STILLTON is possibly one of the most retarded people on the planet. blink.gif

Stilton stinks.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 19:45:32
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 15 2010, 07:17 PM) [snapback]696686[/snapback]
The man o' independent mind
He looks an' laughs at a' that. happy.gif

The rank is but the guinea stamp...
mortonjag 2010-01-15 19:47:26
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 15 2010, 07:46 PM) [snapback]696720[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2010-01-15 19:51:57
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 15 2010, 07:31 PM) [snapback]696700[/snapback]
I remember a very big deal being made of it.

I'm guessing someone at the other end of the admission process would be able to provide a better answer as to how important it actually is.
/Enter Mortonjag to talk about universities and mine and me attending one and my grammar etc etc
Good luck with the application, what are you planning to do?

Thanks for the invitation dwarf - to be honest I have little time for Universities those days, especially the improper ones, and I don't object to poor souls whole do not have the wit to improve on their grammar and spelling. I have, however, no time for arrogant and lazy wee c*nts who won't bother their fat little arses and think thats 'ever so'! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 19:54:49
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 15 2010, 07:50 PM) [snapback]696731[/snapback]
How can I possibly answer that ? Do you think he could walk into the team right now ?

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Maybe even a wee trot - he's possibly as fit as big bad Dom and it hasn't stopped him!
mortonjag 2010-01-15 19:56:08
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 15 2010, 07:49 PM) [snapback]696729[/snapback]
Here, play with this for a while

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mortonjag 2010-01-15 20:07:53
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 15 2010, 08:04 PM) [snapback]696751[/snapback]
The general view is that it usually matters not a lot unless you apply for an ultra-competitive course.

Awrabest young man.

General McBam! blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 20:09:41
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 15 2010, 08:01 PM) [snapback]696748[/snapback]
Without going into the ins and outs. A serious issue still remains - in my opinion the story in today's Tele together with the news piece on the Trust site whether unfounded or otherwise will have negative implications on the ability of the Trust to raise future funds for what is a worthy cause in the youth academy. Discuss.

Edit to add this thread relates solely to the damage the printing of the news story may do and not the content of the story itself which should not be discussed.

I agree. Nothing like stating the obvious mind! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 20:12:19
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 15 2010, 08:07 PM) [snapback]696754[/snapback]
It didn't smell right apparently. unsure.gif

It'll all blow over pretty soon.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 20:31:23
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Jan 15 2010, 08:28 PM) [snapback]696775[/snapback]
Something else we can't discuss on a discussion forum frigging brilliant lifes so friggin exciting am going out to buy some razor blades bleach rope paracetamol a gas oven whiskey pen and paper oh and a pint of milk

Coal or natural?
mortonjag 2010-01-15 20:33:22
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 15 2010, 08:16 PM) [snapback]696764[/snapback]
I must confess I have charged with something similar.
I was let off. laugh.gif

Discharged?
mortonjag 2010-01-15 20:42:09 Chris, if you don't get in with that they ain't worth you! wink.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 20:43:30
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 15 2010, 08:19 PM) [snapback]696768[/snapback]
Nothing with that much pink and red will ever get tired, such as your viagra induced stauner. smile.gif

The voice of experience.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 20:45:35
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 15 2010, 08:29 PM) [snapback]696780[/snapback]
I'm not in your group but I've yet to sell out cool.gif



QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 15 2010, 08:37 PM) [snapback]696795[/snapback]
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If hirsute fits , wear it.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 20:46:37
QUOTE(Greenock Ger @ Jan 15 2010, 08:40 PM) [snapback]696801[/snapback]
Is he still good enough for Morton? Every time i watch him he looks terrible compared to the Pred?

He is and you're not! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 20:48:26
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Jan 15 2010, 08:37 PM) [snapback]696797[/snapback]
Who cares so long as it does the job are we aloud to discuss this anyhow we might get band that's all I need

Make it coal then! blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 20:54:36
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 15 2010, 08:35 PM) [snapback]696793[/snapback]
Disappointed to see Walker head out on loan - doesn't look like he'll be back, either.

I can live without Masterton, though. Good luck to both of them.



QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 15 2010, 08:45 PM) [snapback]696809[/snapback]
That's got nothing to do with it and you know fine well it doesn't. They play in different positions.

Look son, I'm not interested in their sex lives - I'm talking about saving MUNNY. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 21:04:22
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Jan 15 2010, 08:52 PM) [snapback]696824[/snapback]
The Big Q is who and why did they go to The Tele ??
Oh wait, I can feel a cover up story of.....

The Police approached The Tele and asked them to run the story tongue.gif
The Trust should call an emergency meeting of all it's members and put them in the picture of what exactly is going on.

Convenient how they published a statement on their website at the same time as The Tele hit the shelves today.

Too little too late?

It's a crying shame for all the genuine guys who believe in and have applied themselves to the Trust over the years, but IMHO the leadership has been an utter shambles, and no matter how loud it squeaks (only when openly challenged) it has had as much sense of direction as a non-magnetic compass in a vacuum.

Dozens of talented and well heeled Ton supporters are out there - guys who would love to see progress, but the nauseatingly pathetic 'gie's yer tenner and disappear stuff' doesn't wash with those who CAN, and anybody who doesn't like that may RAM IT! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 21:07:20
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 15 2010, 09:05 PM) [snapback]696836[/snapback]
That is very harsh imo

WHY?
mortonjag 2010-01-15 21:15:17
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 15 2010, 07:46 PM) [snapback]696719[/snapback]
laugh.gif I was a Tate & Lyle girl actually. I even remember the Dockers Club and the C.L.R. Club. ph34r.gif

One lump or two? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 21:20:52
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 15 2010, 09:14 PM) [snapback]696845[/snapback]
This might surprise my ex GP friend but he is spot on and that's the reason I turned my back on the trust over a year ago after having my concerns on the above ignored on a regular basis by most committee members.

You may renew your friendship for an annual fee of £10 after which I may reply to you if you really pester me like f*ck, and promise your arse has been freshly shaved.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 21:22:19
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 15 2010, 09:17 PM) [snapback]696849[/snapback]
Poofs

I prefer homosexuals.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 21:25:09
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 15 2010, 09:23 PM) [snapback]696856[/snapback]
Ok, you are a homosexual

I've never denied it Ghostie.

BTW where are all the high heid yins when we need them here tonight? Carousin' wi' Shoogly perhaps? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 21:26:50
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Jan 15 2010, 09:18 PM) [snapback]696850[/snapback]
We can't all get our hole before turning 40.

Very true, and some don't even want it.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 21:28:34
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 15 2010, 09:24 PM) [snapback]696858[/snapback]
I'll give you a tenner if you give me ten minutes in that cellar with you.

There is no admission charge dear. There is no release charge either! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 21:39:04
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 15 2010, 09:29 PM) [snapback]696868[/snapback]
Only through Barbarossa mind you laugh.gif

I do not shag red bearded ones - I am allergic to henna.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 21:44:34
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jan 15 2010, 09:26 PM) [snapback]696861[/snapback]
That sounds libellous unsure.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Are you a student of libel law crane fly? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 21:46:41
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 15 2010, 09:29 PM) [snapback]696867[/snapback]
no sectarian comments please. laugh.gif

It may have been a chess term - bashing the Bishop, f*cking the Queen etc! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 21:53:43
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 15 2010, 09:45 PM) [snapback]696876[/snapback]
Aye, but you like the Greys rolleyes.gif

No, Mouton liked to graze - anyway Ghostie where are the high heid yins? It's a serious question. This pubic massage board is a vibrant exchange of highly intellectual viewpoints (Puggs excepted) but the Trust high heid yins are never here - in fact I'm not really sure who they are-I know the Bearded Tit's a director now, so is he debarred - oh and I always liked Jim McColl because he seems a proper gentleman with an endearing smile, but I'm pretty confused as to who the big knobs are - and you know something- I sense you're just about to say 'Gie's yer tenner and all won't be revealed'! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 22:00:47
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 15 2010, 09:56 PM) [snapback]696879[/snapback]
Its a feee board though Ernie, so why should they have to make an appearance wink.gif

Very true Ghostie -maybe they're too busy in the counting house, counting up the money, or in the garden of Windrush eating bread and honey. After all this is just THE fans forum for Ton fans - not the sort of rag you'd expect Trusty high heid yins to soil their reputations on! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 22:21:51
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 15 2010, 10:03 PM) [snapback]696881[/snapback]
That's a Crawford word that, he is in essence with Bawsack and Govnorroad

Where are the high heid yins? Every time a non trust member has posed legitimate questions here and embarrassed the Trust, Jim McColl or the Bearded Tit have briefly popped in to explain f*ck all and in a condescending manner too!. Rae has got us stymied because certain sad c*nts are more interested in their own (perceived) positions of power and status than in the fans they pretend to represent.

QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 15 2010, 10:12 PM) [snapback]696884[/snapback]
So who is to blame for the Apathy?
Kindly keep me out of your deviant sexual fantasies.

Oh Barbie - even seeing the words you've typed has me grasping my bell end to protect the new Tesco keyboard.
mortonjag 2010-01-15 22:34:34
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 15 2010, 10:24 PM) [snapback]696895[/snapback]
Below the belt as far as i'm, concerned

ref Rae, then that's another question

It's a term of endearment Ghostie. Mortonjag has many terms of endearment! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 22:41:03
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jan 15 2010, 10:36 PM) [snapback]696904[/snapback]
Oh yes, i had some erection problems publicised without my consent ph34r.gif blush.gif

Dream on button pusher! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 22:42:35
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 15 2010, 09:40 PM) [snapback]696873[/snapback]
Aye. Right.

Don't make things so obvious darling! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-15 22:44:32
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Jan 15 2010, 10:37 PM) [snapback]696905[/snapback]
Just to say after considerable deliberation I have decided that it would be in my best interest for the time been I will not be pputting my name forward for concoderation to becoming a moderator. My decision is final on this subject.
Just to say for supper tonight I had bacon eggs and chips

How many?
mortonjag 2010-01-15 22:46:46 Shoogly is a jobby!
mortonjag 2010-01-15 22:51:54
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 15 2010, 10:40 PM) [snapback]696908[/snapback]
Even in your dark cellar in glowed! sad.gif

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No, that was that bigoted little grub of a glow worm I inherited from a previous victim visitor. Mind you Puggs I'll certainly consider Viagra when the situation arises. I'm not proud, and when you're shagging a man woman half your age, it's important to keep up to expectations.
mortonjag 2010-01-16 11:20:20
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jan 16 2010, 01:50 AM) [snapback]697012[/snapback]
Is there anything with Morton you are happy about ? What is it that you like to have digs at everything involved with Greenock Morton ?

If you think things arent being done right , why not put forward constructive critism's and offer a solution? .

Master Gillan (Mortonjag trusts that you won't mind that term as Mortonjag's 'baby' daughter is a year older than you, and Mortonjag was running a successful and profitable business AND working as a GP before she was born), Mortonjag gives you the benefit of the doubt and will accept that your post is serious and not just ANOTHER DIG AT MORTONJAG. rolleyes.gif

Mortonjag gets lots, and lots, and lots and lots, of 'digs'. Many - indeed most - are in good spirit, but every other week - perhaps more frequently - those 'digs' come from club insiders or from Trust officials and members who are perceived to be respectable Morton fans. Only yesterday Mortonjag was the target of a post from someone describing herself/himself as 'Tonosaurus'. That was a particularly unpleasant post which called in question Mortonjag's integrity, professional ethics, and compassion, and was sent because Mortonjag had dared to question the Club's handling of the venue for the Celtic match! Mortonjag is not sure that you are aware of the identity of your Papa's alter Ego. Suffice to say that Mortonjag believes she/he is VERY close to him who must be obeyed. Constructive criticism DOES get results Scottie - by definition! smile.gif

'Is there anything with Morton which Mortonjag is happy about?', you ask.

VERY little. If it wasn't for Mortonjag's arguably irrational love of a presently insignificant and struggling provincial football club twenty five miles away from his home, Mortonjag could undoubtedly find other things to do of a Saturday afternoon. Mortonjag is financially comfortable - indeed his elder son is a multi - millionaire at the age of thirty three. Let Mortonjag know if you want some business tips as Mortonjag was his 'start up' and remains his chief adviser! Mortonjag's Saturdays could be spent racing cars at Knockhill, yachting on Loch Lomond, browsing Poundland, or brushing up on the guitar, but unlike the THOUSANDS who have already been frightened off, Mortonjag remains a loyal season ticket holder who attends every match, home and away.

There are fans who could easily buy Morton. It would, however, take take an Alistair Donald type millionaire to RUN the club. Mortonjag firmly believes that that possibility was deliberately baulked by the current Chairman. When he does go, a consortium may be a viable proposition! smile.gif

And now to your final 'dig'!

The solution? 'Simples', young man. wink.gif A solution will come only when Shoogly goes. Mortonjag's not the doom and gloom merchant on here you know - they are those who are terrified of that old fud's demise - the 'Better the devil you know' wimps who have much to answer for in perpetuating his dictatorial status.

One final point Master Gillon. It may interest you to learn that Mortonjag was contacted last night by two very well known and proactive Trust members - men who are highly respected by the body of fans.

They wrote to Mortonjag agreeing with his perception of the current shambles at Cappielow, as per the very post you criticise. Mortonjag regularly exchanges personal messages with 'those in the know'! sleep.gif

Folk understandably hate this arrogant and slevering old fool who spouts pish and shags wee boys in his cellar. sleep.gif . Slevering old fools are (sometimes) still allowed to state their opinions! ph34r.gif

Mortonjag's on the fans' side Scotty. Rae is 'f*cking' the club big style right now, and the Trust in its present form has a snowball's chance in hell of changing it. Mortonjag won't stay silent for any of them.




.....and you DID ask! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-16 11:42:34
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 16 2010, 11:33 AM) [snapback]697079[/snapback]
midTONs is extremely disappointed that mortonjag did not mention him along with Tonosaurus after his own 'dig' at mortonjags ethics yesterday.

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There are those who mean well and those who don't Kojie.

You're still in Mortonjag's good books -just! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-16 11:45:09
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 16 2010, 10:39 AM) [snapback]697053[/snapback]
There's some really in-depth, exclusive quotes from Stuart Duncan, The Sun probably had to put five figures forward to get those.

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mortonjag 2010-01-16 11:47:18
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Jan 15 2010, 11:02 PM) [snapback]696931[/snapback]
Anyway, on topic, if I could go back to third year I would pick my subjects more wisely, I was a bit of a man tart in third year and had classes wae the good looking birds! Mainly due to the fact I was pish at technical subjects (still am).
I love teaching, passionately, and this is the career path i want to explore, but I would be some sort of mentalist to leave the RN with only seven years left, a CPO pension is quite nice.
Hope 40 years old isn't too old for a second career!

Far from it, and I imagine you will have the funds available to let you do so. Good luck.
mortonjag 2010-01-16 11:50:39
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Jan 15 2010, 11:06 PM) [snapback]696933[/snapback]
A good pool drop off mst be accompanied by some sort of reading material, or it is a waste of time, I don't feel I have succeeded if I can still feel my legs when I stand up. No pins and needles means no satisfaction!

I have learned that jobbyers fall into three categories:

1/ The anally retentive who read the Beano from cover to cover whilst reluctantly letting go.

2/ The 'normals' who follow nature's call.

3/ The coprophobics for whom the disposal can't come quickly enough, and who often end up with anal fissures.
mortonjag 2010-01-16 11:53:14 I dispose of bodies.
mortonjag 2010-01-16 11:55:18
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Jan 16 2010, 01:49 AM) [snapback]697011[/snapback]
another boring thread

this place is going to the dogs... thanks to a certain boring few

Lap it up! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-16 11:56:41
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 16 2010, 11:53 AM) [snapback]697098[/snapback]
'Tonosaurus' isn't Pat Gillan. 'Tonosaurus' can spell.

Precisely!
mortonjag 2010-01-16 11:59:11
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 16 2010, 11:54 AM) [snapback]697099[/snapback]
Thought we all had to watch wht we say about the subject? HMS is correct.
Who decided on the papers being fed exclusives which will tell the whole of Sscotland what is happening and begin the ball rolling on gossiping about people and incidents which are yet to be proven ? That is a good idea whoever went to the papers with the excusive?
There are innocent people gonna start getting caught up in this and folk should remeber mud will stick out this whole sorry episode. Guys who would give you their last penny never even contemplating theft are gonna start being talked about and misjudged and that is not fair.
Hey but lets get our group/names in the paper for publicity. Not the way to go about conducting yourself .

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Hey Guv - have I sinned by responding to Nach0's obviously tongue in cheek remark with a wee Smiley?
mortonjag 2010-01-16 12:02:56
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 16 2010, 11:57 AM) [snapback]697103[/snapback]
I'll bite... I don't understand why the part about Tonosaurus and the part about Pat are both in the same paragraph, one leading on from the other, as the two aren't related.

Pat has been posting as Scott for ages - I'm surprised you hadn't clocked that. Hence my use of the term 'Alter ego' for the person who now posts as Tonosaurus.
mortonjag 2010-01-16 12:35:41
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Jan 16 2010, 12:04 PM) [snapback]697107[/snapback]
Jag, I lap your posts up. But the mention of AD is a joke.
The guy hangs about with the wrong kind of people, not just Andy Goram but his circle of friends are never out of the Sunday Tabloids.
The last thing we need is some Millionaire moll who get's muscled by outside influence and drag's the club down with him.

It was far from a joke!

I'm not sure what you mean by 'hangs around with'. That's exactly the type of comment that was being made when AD was pilloried on this massage board. I've repeatedly invited those who did so to come up with proof of their allegations, as I was and still am receptive to the truth on all matters.

For what it's worth I believe the club's been 'dragged down' far enough already, and the Millionaire who has done so doesn't smell of roses for me. The Stan Webster debacle is merely one example of his Modus Operandi.

I wonder, in any case, what type of company Abramovic used to keep/still keeps! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-16 12:39:24
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 16 2010, 12:05 PM) [snapback]697108[/snapback]
There is nothing quite so satisfying as baking a log for a few hours then taking a good book into the cunyakeen, reading a chapter or two and then having a few strong grunts and passing something the size of a small table leg, knurls and all. Then a right good claw at your bangle when you wipe.

Magic.

TonInDublin

Those mutts give you no peace!
mortonjag 2010-01-16 12:51:10 When did you last get your hole?
mortonjag 2010-01-16 12:53:14 The preying Mantis female may bite of the head of her partner during copulation but still become impregnated.
mortonjag 2010-01-16 12:56:11
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Jan 16 2010, 12:53 PM) [snapback]697142[/snapback]
Mr Donald keeps company with quite a few of Glasgow's budding entrepreneur's. Scott Harrison's ex manager / promoter who seem's to be in the papers for all the wrong reason's is just one.

Proof, the same promoter supplies drivers and car's for the same AD when he is out entertaining in Glasgow for "safety" purposes.

Mud sticks, hence why Partick Thistle gave this mob a wide berth.

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I once had a patient who suffered a severe head injury in childhood, and believed everything he read in the papers.

And I'll still welcome proof!
mortonjag 2010-01-16 13:47:26
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Jan 16 2010, 01:08 PM) [snapback]697146[/snapback]
Well, the same individual's mention in the papers came right out of the appropriate courts. You'll no doubt not believe those transcripts too.

You know fine the person I refer to, and his reputation. If not, you must be the only one in the West of Scotland that doesn't.

HMM - I kinda see what you're driving at. It indeed questions the whole infrastructure and morality of ALL business. Folk with tenuous links with folk with 'reputations' are commonplace in business - like it or lump it. This also begs the question as to why the ultra respectable Shoogly (well that's his reputation) courted said blaggard!

And I'm still open to hearing proof of any misdoings by Mr Donald.

QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jan 16 2010, 01:14 PM) [snapback]697148[/snapback]
I take it you don't dispute the links with a well known ex **** loyalist supporter that have been well reported. That in itself was enough to put me off the guy. However thankfully he's gone on to pastures new and will no doubt be linked in the future with another club ala Rangers, Clyde and Morton.

I have heard something on this massage board about Mr Donald having received a mention in Andy Goram's book - if indeed that is what you refer to. It's surprising that Shoogly should have invited him on board, given that he's a self confessed Rangers man. Perhaps he thought he could teach him the error of his ways and convince him that Celtic supporters are the best in the land.

I still await and am receptive to proof of any misdoings by Mr Donald.
mortonjag 2010-01-16 13:51:27
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Jan 16 2010, 01:43 PM) [snapback]697161[/snapback]
Pregnant through giving head? And you a doctor?

I think you may have misunderstood!

And you a preying mantis! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-16 13:53:17
QUOTE(Zutons @ Jan 16 2010, 01:24 PM) [snapback]697154[/snapback]
You are correct. It works both ways

What's your prediction for the game being on come Tuesday?
mortonjag 2010-01-16 13:55:16
QUOTE(tommydoc @ Jan 16 2010, 01:52 PM) [snapback]697164[/snapback]
John Barrowman lost the part of 'Will' in 'Will and Grace' because he was 'too straight'.

Heterophobia!
mortonjag 2010-01-16 14:10:07
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jan 16 2010, 01:52 PM) [snapback]697165[/snapback]
Proof, that's the last thing you want. Notoriety is the name of your game. If someone brough AD to your door and he confessed to diddling the club out of £20k you would say he was only doing it because he was be co-erced. laugh.gif laugh.gif

I'll give you this though, you are the best wind up merchant ever to haunt the msg boards. You must have a real laugh at all your apologists as they dance to your tune. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Your ego is soooo much bigger than Dougie's laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Those who believe that Mortonjag is a 'wind up merchant' merely add power to Mortonjag's armoury.

Mortonjag wasn't 'winding up' anybody about the (now several) personal messages he's shared in the last twenty four hours with three high profile, repected and respectable Trust members, all of whom agree with his take on the current Trussssht situation, and specifically with the proposition that those at the top have given the fans a 'Judas kiss'.

Nor was Mortonjag winding anybody up when he mentioned the thoroughly distasteful post made by a senior Cappielow official after Mortonjag questioned the venue for the Celtic game.

Indeed Measles, Mortonjag's post was a very open and sincere response to Scott Gillan's question.

It would make a pleasant change if you'd just accept that Mortonjag is much too bright for you! laugh.gif The sooner those in the Trusssssht comfort zone get booted to f*ck, the sooner a proper Trust may emerge - one with the balls to tackle Rae and follow the principles on which it was founded.
mortonjag 2010-01-16 14:15:14
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Jan 16 2010, 02:03 PM) [snapback]697169[/snapback]
Maybe that's why the board wished to distance itself from him?

The point being, if AD had run the club as you advocate then what other influences would he have brought in? Quick money? ready cash from other sources? With the time he spent at the club he hardly covered himself in glory and brought very little to the club. For such an astute business man as you suggest, the reports from shareholders on here seemed to think we were well rid of bad rubbish.

Colourful individual's come into our lives all the time. But we choose, do we stand at the bar and drink with them? Or should we move to the next bar?
AD did very little to enhance the club, he wished to spend more time with the owner of MIM than he did of the Golden Casket.
Someone like him we can do without.

The point actually being that you've just reiterated the Shoogly version which has already been well publicised. Furthermore Mr Donald's evidence has not yet been cited!

Anyway, this thread's about the Trust - an organisation which by statute should be keeping a watchful eye on the fans' interests, instead of pandering to the doddery old fud who invited AD here in the first place.
mortonjag 2010-01-16 18:14:12
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Jan 16 2010, 02:40 PM) [snapback]697176[/snapback]
Indeed the thread is about the trust and the missing money.

But you brought AD the saviour into it.
There are many more on here that are party to the inside of the club, some would agree with you while other's may disagree.

But IMO, the Trust have done more for the club than AD ever did. I have yet to hear of one major benefit that AD actually brought to Cappielow?

As for the missing cash, that won't be to hard to find if it has been half inched.

Here's what I said and it was said in the context of Scott's question:

It would, however, take an Alistair Donald type millionaire to RUN the club..

Of course it can be argued that the Trust has done more that Mr Donald. How much DID he pay for the Midden stand, the floodlights, the Austria trip, and so on, and how much has the Trust ploughed in since its inception? I'd imagine the Trust may very well run out winner. Mr Donald, I understand was also instrumental in making several beneficial changes to the commercial side of the club before leaving of his own accord. Mr Rae claims he owes the Club money and is being 'pursued'. We may eventually learn the whole truth, though I strongly suspect we'll never hear another word about Shoogly's 'pursuit' of Alistair Donald!

SO - back to the original post about damaging the Trust. My gut feeling at first was that the Trust would inevitably be harmed. Perhaps, however, this is a wake up call. The Trust obviously has a very powerful voice if run properly.

QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jan 16 2010, 03:06 PM) [snapback]697183[/snapback]
Oh dear mortonjag, my apologies if your feelings were somewhat hurt when I called into question the appropriateness of your flippant remark regarding the people of Haiti.

Anyway.

I don't really know what has happened with regards to the Trust as I am not involved in it, so I will decline to comment on this story. But I hope that everything gets sorted out with that regard as I feel the Trust will have an important role to play within the next decade.

With regards to mortonjag's long-winded summation of his life so far, I wonder why he himself has not offered to buy the club from the Raes? As if what he says is true, and I don't know either way on the matter, DDFR would be happy to "cut his losses and run." I'm not being cheeky, I just don't know if mortonjag would consider it. It may surprise mortonjag as well to know that while I think over the piece the Raes have done a good job in their 8-9 years at the helm, putting a considerable sum of money into various aspects of the club, I would have preferred to have seen a more long-term approach from a youth academy point of view in a similar way to Hamilton. That said, I am not even in a position to be a shareholder at the club, never mind attempt to become the owner/chairman. Perhaps mortonjag is; perhaps he is not; perhaps he simply does not want to. Either way, DDFR has put the money in and is therefore in charge of the way the club is run. If you want to see major changes at the top then I would suggest getting together a consortium rather than bitching every single day (several times) about the chairman of the football club and do something far more useful. Just think, for all the time you spend making posts on here, you could be formulating a business masterplan to take over the club you love, preferably without Alistair Donald as it would seem that he was a bit of a bad apple.

I agree with a fair bit of what you say with regards to the footballing side of things (the part I, as a fan, am really interested in); but I can't be bothered with your constant, petty jibes at the chairman, without you actually doing anything worthwhile about the perceived problems you frequently allude to. All talk and no action? I would be happy for you to be proved right and for you to be the knight in shining armour that we apparently need at the moment, rather than sitting bitterly at your computer turning every thread to suit your agenda.

Alan (not Pat Gillan!)

Thanks for your apology 'Alan'! Your comments were totally inappropriate as you have obviously realised on reflection.

Mortonjag understands that Mr Rae grossly overvalues the club. Furthermore, it is abundantly clear that Mr Rae is pathologically incapable of extricating himself from the running thereof. For those reasons any 'buy out' is a non starter.

Having made that clear, you will perhaps understand why genuine fans (not just Mortonjag nor a mere few) are constantly critical of the running of Fortress Cappielow and the siege mentality behind it. Stage managed 'Shoogly Shows' and a unilateral and unchallenged presentation of 'fact' at the annual AGM are as close as the fans ever get to the man who rarely listens and never hears. Is it any wonder that WE (not just Mortonjag) use our harmless little rag of a pubic massage board to vent our feelings and frustrations?

This massage board is 'Unofficial'. Why doesn't the club keep its nose out instead of infiltrating it with the Donkey Daves and Mabawsa Ritchies? Does 'Alan' consider her/himself to fall into that sad category? Is 'Alan' totally independent of Greenock Morton? I somehow feel a very loud 'F*CK OFF' coming, but I'm trying to keep this civilised. Once the fans are able to engage in meaningful dialogue with Mr Rae, his message boys won't have so much to clype about. Do you imagine that will ever happen 'Alan'?

QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jan 16 2010, 03:37 PM) [snapback]697201[/snapback]
Oh I forgot everybody who's anybody talks to you laugh.gif your ego is indeed growing by the day. "Open and sincere" now your really are at the wind up. Your are such a condescending individual very much like you arch nemesis Dougie. As for being "too bright" for me laugh.gif you don't even know me, once again your arrogance shows no bounds. Are you sure your not Dougie? You sound and act just like the very man you criticise laugh.gif I don't think you are very bright laugh.gif

As I said Measles you're (not 'your' as your (used correctly here) MENSADOG friends have obviously taught you) not really very bright! laugh.gif

Poor Measles - whimpering like an orphaned pup because arrogant Doctor Mortonjag presumes to opine on the dug's relative thickness without ever having patted his furry little head, and that after pulling Mortonjag's character to pieces - Mortonjag whom Measles has never had the opportunity to gaze up to. rolleyes.gif

If you had the decency/balls to reveal/stop lying about your (spelled correctly) true identity Measles, those fans who are also TRUSSSSSSSSSSSSHT members would understand better why Mortonjag upsets you.

You won't of course, and like all the other nauseating anonymities who attempt to discredit Mortonjag - the harder you try, the more you will fail because, Measles - it's VERY dangerous to overestimate your (spelled properly) intelligence - something Mortonjag never does! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-16 19:19:05
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jan 16 2010, 06:34 PM) [snapback]697272[/snapback]
How does one "infiltrate" a public messageboard?

It may surprise you to learn that I have been supporting Morton for a lot longer than I have been working at Golden Casket. In fact, my first paid employment was at Cappielow as a programme seller many moons ago. I cannot speak on behalf of Mabawsa, or indeed anyone else for that matter, but I come on here to see what other Ton fans are saying, to enter into debate about football or any other relevant topic that the mods approve of and to put forward any arguments that I personally consider to be appropriate. It is now a bonus that it seems to edge MJ's paranoid guage into the red... rolleyes.gif

I was attempting to answer 'Alan's question tail bearer, and merely alluded to you as an example of how Shoogly has access to the thoughts and feelings of the fans whilst excluding them from any meaningful dialogue. That you are his message boy and clype is well known. In that respect you most CERTAINLY infiltrate this massage board. It's clearly very difficult for the Trust to deal with a man who is incapable of talking TO the fans but who must know everything that's being said about him! Don't you agree?

QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jan 16 2010, 06:40 PM) [snapback]697274[/snapback]
I repeat, yes repeat once more laugh.gif you don't upset me at all, in fact I find you quite an amusing and interesting personality. rolleyes.gif

You have me transfixed on here regularly as we await the next load of drivel that pretends to be the truth and nothing but the truth.
The above AD nonsense is a good example of your inability to face the fact that you are wrong. Is that a trait in doctors?

You have some mistaken belief, or is it arrogance, that if you say something loud enough and long enough that people would, or is that should, believe you and nobody else.

Your get more like Dougie every day laugh.gif laugh.gif and you have the temerity to castigate the man at every opportunity. I'm as much a fan of Dougie as I am of yours, one and the same personality type.

I'm afraid your actually no better than he is!!!!!!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif

And your name is?

Mine's Ernie Newall - it's no secret. I'm a season ticket holder. Anybody who wishes to approach me at Cappielow is welcome to do so. The police and stewards are never far away! laugh.gif

That goes for you too Measles - I won't even ask you to wear a muzzle over your grisly coupon!

This is supposed to be a serious thread about your the Trust, and my original post and reply to Scott were serious and made no mention of you.

The truth is, however, that with your level of involvement in the TRUSSSSSSSSSSHT, Mortonjag's regular mocking of its blinkered and muddle headed leadership is bound to sting. Mortonjag understands that Measles - it's nothing personal -Mortonjag wants a strong Trust which can challenge that old fud, rather than the current emasculated farce, the leadership of which is light years away from the average fan, hidebound by protocol, and palpably incapable of taking constructive criticism.

As I mentioned earlier, Measles, I have received in the last twenty four hours several personal messages from high profile non executive Trust members - giving me their support and openly criticising the present leadership.

What is your opinion of the current leadership of your the Trust , Measles. That question is surely relevant to this thread.
mortonjag 2010-01-17 09:15:10
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jan 16 2010, 03:49 PM) [snapback]697207[/snapback]
I wish people would stop giving mods such a hard time

its easy , dont like it start a new forum !!

They are only doing what they think is right for the board

So do I Scotty -- but Willy Man most certainly IS NOT by asking a legitimate question.

THE PLOT THICKENS!

After I took considerable time and care to respond to your questions yesterday about the future of Morton several other posters asked ME questions.

I had made responses to 'Alan' who posts as Tonosuarus and had made an unexpected apologly to Mortonjag for outrageous comments she/he had made about his Professionalism and compassion. 'Alan' appears to be'very close' to Mr Rae and had knee jerked like a woman with PMT when Mortonjag had dared to question the venue for the Celtic match,

and to Donkey Dave, Shoogly's pet wannabe accountant, message boy, and clype - who was defending his right to be just those things and objected to the word 'infiltration',


and of course to the TRUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHTY mutt MEASLES (Spot Ton) who's fatally in love with the organisation that's under the spotlight at the moment, and is deluded not only in thinking that he and it are the 'bees' knees', but that he's half as bright as Mortonjag.

Those posts were all made late yesterday afternoon and they DEFINITELY appeared on the thread but when I check they have all been deleted. My last recorded post is at 1.55 p.m.


I understand the currently anxiety about a certain matter, but MY POSTS MADE NO MENTION OF ANY KIND of that, so like Willy Man, I most certainly want some explanation, and until one is forthcoming this stinks of -well -


INFILTRATION
mortonjag 2010-01-17 09:44:14
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jan 17 2010, 09:25 AM) [snapback]697432[/snapback]
I posted a reply to you last night, Ernie, but I see the thread has been deleted (my post was not of ill content). Hope you got the chance to read it. If not, see if the Mods can get it to you because I can't be bothered and don't have the time to re-type it. Failing that, PM me.

Thanks, and thanks for having the decency to respond. I spend most Saturday evenings having a curry (Chicken tikka tandoori masala last night), playing Scrabble, and watching telly if there's anything decent on - I rarely watch TV on Saturdays - so I wasn't aware that you'd posted.

As a Shooglyphile, you have risen mightily in my estimation. I hope you regard that as a genuine compliment. It's refreshing to joust with someone of intelligence who clearly doesn't take her/himself too seriously.

Perhaps it's too much to expect the same of dugs and asses!

Ernie.

mortonjag 2010-01-17 09:46:34 gocompare.vomit
mortonjag 2010-01-17 09:49:04
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jan 16 2010, 02:18 PM) [snapback]697172[/snapback]
When glass breaks the cracks move in excess of 3,000mph.

Spotlight explodes in strip club!
mortonjag 2010-01-17 09:50:16 More than half the population cannot spell prostate.
mortonjag 2010-01-17 10:06:46 Mortonjag has won the Sunday Herald prize crossword three times! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-17 11:14:14
QUOTE(tontastic @ Jan 17 2010, 10:49 AM) [snapback]697450[/snapback]
Its back now that i have taken the time to remove some replies that discussed the matter in hand.

TY
mortonjag 2010-01-17 11:36:05
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 16 2010, 07:34 PM) [snapback]697295[/snapback]
I reckon we will met in person before the end of the season, I'm dying to introduce myself.

Do I get a sook of yer lolly. Kojie? unsure.gif

QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jan 16 2010, 07:52 PM) [snapback]697299[/snapback]
Ermmm.nope, cannot quite agree on this one laugh.gif laugh.gif rolleyes.gif .

Infiltration implies an ulterior motive to do harm to the organisation that is being infiltrated. Certainly not my idea on this or any other board. I have already pointed out to you that I do not spend my time "clyping" about what is said on here - there are other concerns that I have that seem to fill up my working day. However, you choose not to listen to this and believe otherwise. Ho hum!

As for the relationship between DDF and the trust I am sure that there are more appropriate people on here who could tell you how that manifests itself - I for one have no knowledge of their interactions....

Nor do I spend my time eating! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jan 16 2010, 07:55 PM) [snapback]697300[/snapback]
Apologies, but I really have difficulty taking you seriously laugh.gif As for the Trust I'm sure you can take that up with them, after all it is a democratic organisation. You could always mount a coup de'tat laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Probably not as much difficulty as the genuine guys on here have with you.

You've dodged the question and the issue Measles - you're back in the dog house. It's abundantly clear to me (especially after much correspondence over the last couple of days) that I'm taken far more seriously than I could ever have believed by several worthy Trust members, yet the spotty dug thinks that he can ignore Mortonjag and he'll go away.

So here's a challenge and I'll let the others decide whether or not it's fair.

I accuse you of being a senior Trust official who is unwilling to admit to himself that as always Mortonjag is Spot Ton

Identify yourself or lose any credibility you ever had with the brain damaged. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-17 11:37:35
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jan 16 2010, 07:31 PM) [snapback]697294[/snapback]
You are welcome, though I did not think my comments were inappropriate, maybe harsh, but what you stated initially was in bad taste. And no, I will not tell you to "F*CK OFF", I am more than capable of having a discussion on the matter which seems pretty important to you and I would expect the same courtesy from anybody.

First of all, I am totally "independent of Morton Football Club"; other than being a supporter of it. I have not even been a season ticket holder for the last 2 years due to me being unable at the start of each season being assured of getting my money's worth as I may not have been able to attend every home game. I have stated countless times to you that I do not know anybody on the board and have only spoken to Douglas Rae once after a game in hospitality (at the end of the "we blew it" season). So please give it a rest that every single person who does not have an entirely negatively polarised view of the club is connected with it in any other fashion than as a fan and a supporter of Greenock Morton. I also have absolutely nothing to do with the Trust and never have done.

First off, I don't disagree that DDFR overvalues the club, in fact, he seems to overvalue and overspend on a number of things: wages (though the previous manager I believe blew the budget) and transfer fees in particular. In this respect, I think he made us a bit like Man City at the moment: other clubs knew we had money and as a result expected a higher transfer fee for players who were not as good as their price-tag. Templeman was to Rae as Flo was to Murray. That said, Rae's intentions were good and most signings were applauded by those on here even if the price tag was a little more than what was felt appropriate: Templeman, Stevenson, McAnespie, Williams, Russell and Weatherson, with only Weatherson making any kind of a sustained impact.

On the other hand however, Morton have won 2 leagues during Rae's time, while the stadium and pitch has been renovated (with the WDE due for completion this year I believe) considerably (though most credit should go to Mark Farrell and co for the latter). Added to that, the club has purchased the training facilities at Quarriers. From an infrastructure point of view I think we are in decent shape though I have not seen the books and I would imagine that somebody with a sound knowledge of book-keeping would maybe have concerns that the club is so closely funded by an independent company, but I don't imagine that many clubs in Scotland are any better off than we are. In my opinion football will get a reality check over the next few years and wage demands of players will drop considerably to mirror the fact that there is little in the way of television revenue for the clubs to boost their wage bill.

Anyway, back on topic. I still think that you are giving up a little easily on this whole takeover idea. Surely a man of your background (I believe you said on another thread you ran a business) could pursue a takeover of the club? I know that you said DDFR would never sell in this thread, but in a previous one you alluded to the fact that "£1.3m" (forgive me if that figure is incorrect) would make Rae cut his losses. Having established that your 33 year old son is a multi-millionaire (whose business you helped start up), could he not lend his father a bob or two to plough into his local football team? Or perhaps you have other connections who would be willing to initiate a buy-out, because while you insist on this thread that Rae would not sell the club, I would imagine that he would have his price.

Out of curiosity, have you ever had any contact with DDFR? I just wonder why you have such a negative view of the man.

With regards to your last paragraph, I think that many fans would wish to have a bigger say in the running of the club; and this applies to all football fans of their respective clubs, not just us folks who support Morton. To directly answer your last question, I don't believe that the fans will be able to have a meaningful input into the running of the club while DDFR is the majority shareholder as there has been little evidence of that over the past 8-9 years. But that is due to the fact that he who has the most shares has the most say. You don't expect the majority shareholder of Apple to listen to someone with few shares? It is just the way of the world.

If you are so firmly against DDFR and if you have good reason to be, why not put together some kind of consortium or alternatively get involved in the Trust at the top level to gain an audience with the man you seem to despise. At least that would be more constructive than merely venting your frustrations on a message board.

Finally, you could attend the Q&A session or the AGM if you want to speak to DDFR (I'm not sure if you have shares in the club, you would have to get them first to attend the latter I believe.)

Might be better to correspond by email in future. You can kick of if you like that idea.

Ernie
mortonjag 2010-01-17 12:49:23
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 17 2010, 11:38 AM) [snapback]697467[/snapback]
Kojie is a generous person and will give mortonjag his own lolly to sook.

Bawbag. sad.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-17 12:54:40
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 17 2010, 12:46 PM) [snapback]697486[/snapback]
Your welcome wub.gif

Hey ginger nut - gonnae no dae that? That's Spotty Dug speak and I'm getting VERY suspicious you may be IT! ph34r.gif

Oh and Sean I trust hope you have a wonderful day - one that you can't remember for years to come. blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-17 13:35:10
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 17 2010, 12:56 PM) [snapback]697490[/snapback]
LOL !!!!

Barbarossa is most certainly NOT SpotTon.

I actually spluttered a wee bit of my tea out when I read that - good man Ernie, made my Sunday !
TonInDublin

To know that you must also know the identity of the dug!

FFS

IT'S YOU! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-17 14:00:54
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 17 2010, 01:49 PM) [snapback]697512[/snapback]
Never had a ginger hair on my head in my life (oh except when me and my pal tried to follow fashion at 14 and dye our fringes blonde...result? Fail and a very ginger fringe...I said fringe mad.gif )

Strictly from sideburns to chin only. biggrin.gif

Anyway, sorry doc, my grammar was never my strongest point. and to be honest I don't pay attention to the you, your or even you're way of grammar. tongue.gif

So you're not Testarossa then? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-17 14:14:26 [attachment=6336:FAO_PUGGS.JPG]

Buy a Sunday Herald - fill in the prize crossword, and you may win a lovely big Oxford English Dictionary. I've already won three so you're more than welcome! blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-17 14:20:30
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 17 2010, 02:18 PM) [snapback]697525[/snapback]
Yet you can't properly work a scanner wink.gif

I don't play with children's toys -now scurry off and buy the paper! It's a lovely big dictionary - will look very impressive next to your porny mags! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-17 14:29:15
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jan 17 2010, 12:40 PM) [snapback]697483[/snapback]
Is it too soon to joke about Haiti?

Or should we wait for the dust to settle?

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I know just how those poor people in Haiti feel.

I had 30 aftershocks once and i couldn't find my sodding house either!

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The curry house down my way has made a new dish in tribute to the people of Haiti -

Chicken burry auntie with naan dead and poppa gone.

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This will be a true test of the stength of the Jesse Boys forum -will the little Brussels pate pop over the parapet in remonstration?
mortonjag 2010-01-17 14:30:29
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 17 2010, 02:28 PM) [snapback]697530[/snapback]
Rattled so easily today smile.gif

GO AND BUY THE F*CKING PAPER! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-17 14:42:51 A question was asked.

Mortonjag was 'silenced' as usual.

Mortonjag is persistent.
mortonjag 2010-01-17 14:48:21
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Jan 17 2010, 02:35 PM) [snapback]697538[/snapback]
you are as unfunny as you are utterly dull and boring

And you appear to be a sanctimonious arsehole.
mortonjag 2010-01-17 14:54:14
QUOTE(Flyerton @ Jan 17 2010, 02:51 PM) [snapback]697545[/snapback]
I thought I was back in May '08. A re-heat of an old post?

That's exactly the point dear.

Read what Mortonjag asked and look at the response it generated!

I'm merely alluding to the fact that when probing questions have been asked of the club and/or trust in the past, the author has normally been ground down by a mass of defensive abuse.

Chickens coming home to roost etc! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-17 15:15:52
QUOTE(Doddie @ Jan 17 2010, 03:01 PM) [snapback]697551[/snapback]
Take your flirting elsewhere ladies. Just come out already.

Flirting?

I've just given him a golden opperchancity to win a lovely big dictionary worth £29.95! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-17 15:17:02
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 17 2010, 03:13 PM) [snapback]697560[/snapback]
6/1 dry
7/1 rain

11/1 snow

bigot fest evens

4/5 with Paddy Power.
mortonjag 2010-01-17 15:27:46 Never really got any answers to this one either! crying.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-17 15:56:43
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 17 2010, 03:18 PM) [snapback]697565[/snapback]
You know sometimes I think you do actually take great pleasure when things go wrong either at the the football club itself or any of the organisations attached to it.

If my memory serves me right (because I cannot be bothered reading through any of the old thread) what you brought up then and what has allegedly happened now is two totally different things, no doubt you will find someone way to link the two but in doing so you are only showing a side of yourself that proves you like to revel in any misfortune that comes their way.

I'm sure in this particular thread I shared your concerns as to where monies raised from these events that was meant to benefit our youth set up ended up when it was handed over to the football club but for you or anyone else to gloat at the trust or anyone else for that matter over this incident is beyond belief.

If there was indeed cause for the trust to report the matter then it was only right they done so, wouldn't you agree?
A bit of stuck between a rock and a hard place comes to mind and I don't think it's fair that guys like yourself use it as some sort of weapon to twist the knife.

Another thing what do you expect the trust to come out and say at the moment? You are an intelligent man apparently so you must accept that whilst the police investigation continues they cannot really comment on the matter.



QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 17 2010, 03:28 PM) [snapback]697573[/snapback]
Have you two fallen out already. sad.gif

The question was about accountibility -it's there in black and white in the original first post - and yes Kojie - I'm only human like the rest of you (even if I'm MUCH brighter), and it does give me just a whiff of shadenfreude.

I'm not having a go at the trust in particular - just at all the usual suspects who automatically attacked Jaggy without thinking about what he was saying.

It's not QUITE so common now Kojie - more folk are getting to know Mortonjag and to respect his opinions - maybe the day may come when folk WILL accept that Mortonjag is NEVER wrong! happy.gif


Oh and Kojie -I'd still love a wee sook.
mortonjag 2010-01-17 15:59:03
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 17 2010, 03:56 PM) [snapback]697584[/snapback]
Is dictionary the vulgar version of pictionary? ph34r.gif

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mortonjag 2010-01-17 16:08:34 [attachment=6337:post_142...76_thumb.jpg]

You've been in the Ton dressing room! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-17 16:21:28
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 17 2010, 04:13 PM) [snapback]697594[/snapback]
So Irons left in the summer did he?

F*CK OFF AND BUY THAT PAPER! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-17 16:33:32
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 17 2010, 04:24 PM) [snapback]697599[/snapback]
Calm down dear

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2010-01-17 16:38:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 17 2010, 04:31 PM) [snapback]697602[/snapback]
Or your cellar?

I think your eyes are failing you Mr Edwards!
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mortonjag 2010-01-17 16:48:25
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 17 2010, 04:33 PM) [snapback]697603[/snapback]
If accountability was the question you were asking in the original post then surely were meaning from the club and not the trust since in past events the monies raised was handed over to GMFC and later on there was a question as to what the money was actually used for, in this occasion if there has been any wrong doing it would be said that the trust have reacted in the proper manner and taken the proper steps as far as accountability for the proceeds of this night are concerned, so I cannot see how you can link the two.

I have no intention of venturing any opinion about the purported problem with the Stars of '79 money, nor am I trying to get others to do so.

Why don't you go back and just read carefully the exact words I wrote in the original post?

I raised the issue of money being generated by the hard work of dedicated fans and the process by which the said money was made to reach its intended goal and I introduced the concept of accountability. In that respect, and in that respect only I'd suggest that it was an entirely reasonable question at the time, and I just wonder why it was so fiercely rebutted.

Is that OK with you, and am I not getting that sook? wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-17 16:57:02
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jan 17 2010, 04:40 PM) [snapback]697608[/snapback]
Its quite obvious that you are having a go at the trust, its members, what it does with its funds and so on. Just the same as what you do with Dougie. You make such a big deal about not getting answers from the trust/club/dougie/mods but you forget one little factor and that is you are just a made up name on a small message board. Sitting in front of a keyboard does not entitle you demand answers from anyone, maybe someone with as much intelligence as you keep telling us that you behold could work that out. Nearly every thread on here is poisoned by your inane drivel. I know that it hurts you that you have no powers to dictate to the club/ trust/ messageboard but come on, your turning this place into a complete pile of crap with your postings, can you not search for your 'answers' by contacting the people concerned by normal more means, e-mail, letter, telephone ?

I'm not really sure why you've attacked me personally, cranefly. Maybe you've got something to hide - who would know as you are just a made up name on a small massage board sitting in front of your keyboard and free to type out your pathetic pointless inaccurate and self indulgent diatribes wihout having the balls to identify yourself. rip.gif

For the second time in two days

Ernie Newall -season ticket holder -more details and piccy on my profile -AND in the last 24 hours have exchanged numerous p.m.'s and several emails with folk who trust me and who know a hell of a lot more about club matters than you.

I could simply have said - go f*ck yourself - but that's your style and I'd hate to mimic VT's plagiarism! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-17 17:04:36
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jan 17 2010, 04:46 PM) [snapback]697611[/snapback]
You won what is basically a raffle, do you think that you were the only one to submit a correctly completed crossword ? or do you think there were a few submitted and your name came out of the lucky dip bin. These 'proper' universities should really include some teachings on common sense laugh.gif laugh.gif


That's correct Cranefly - and isn't it VERY lucky to win a raffle three separate times with one entry a week and HUNNERS of correct answers!

Tell you what button pusher - why don't you have a wee shot at the clues?
QUOTE(carlito @ Jan 17 2010, 04:50 PM) [snapback]697613[/snapback]
I'd probably have stopped entering after winning one anyway.

laugh.gif

At least your mind is more logical. Each time I enter I submit the name of a friend or relative whom I know would value the dictionary, but PUGGS can get off his wee fat arse and do the rest for himself! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-17 17:10:31
QUOTE(Toby @ Jan 17 2010, 04:45 PM) [snapback]697610[/snapback]
Sectarianism was first described as Scotland's shame by James MacMillan in a lecture he gave at the Edinburgh International Festival in August 1999. Tom Devine has since published a book containing a collection of essays on bigotry and sectarianism in Scotland, also called Scotland's Shame (2000).

Given you filthy, pathetic hate-filled outburst, it is appropriate to bracket you alongside the perpetrators of sectarian crime in this country.

If you wish to discuss yob culture, fill your boots- I've never hidden from my own faults and openly discussed them on here in the past many times when the need has arose.

That however does not escape from the fact that you are Scotland's shame.

English not quite up to the standard of the A.G.M. report Toby old chap! Is this really you or has somebody hi-jacked yer PC?
mortonjag 2010-01-17 17:13:44
QUOTE(tontasticstu @ Jan 17 2010, 05:07 PM) [snapback]697618[/snapback]
I've had a good chuckle at some of the comments on here! Celtic should and will win by at least 4 goals.

Some of you have to remember you are not Brazil 1970, you are a team struggling badly in 8th place of the First Division ffs.

And for all the bigots I've read on other threads on this board, I hope our Republic of Ireland international Aiden McGeady scores the lot.

A bigot - somebody born in Scotland who believes he's Irish - or is that something else?

I'm quite sure you'll win by at least ten -maybe twenty. smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-17 17:17:46
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 17 2010, 05:14 PM) [snapback]697622[/snapback]
I must have really rattled you this week for you. I bet you were thinking about me the whole while you done the crossword, giggling like a loon as you - poorly - scanned it on to your computer and attached it to the thread.

laugh.gifI'm getting to you, admit it happy.gif

laugh.gif

I beseech you to send off that entry, dwarf!
mortonjag 2010-01-17 17:20:03 Just another wind up merchant -stick to yer crane -that way you'll maybe succeed once in a while Mr Nobody! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-17 17:25:00
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 17 2010, 05:18 PM) [snapback]697626[/snapback]
Yup, rattled smile.gif

laugh.gif

So you DON'T want to improve your abysmal grammar and spelling. That saddens me dwarf, because every illiterate 'Caley' churns out just adds weight to the popular conception that the title 'University' is about as appropriate as calling Shoogly 'Sweet Sixteen', and that the Mickey Mouse 'degrees' ain't worth the paper they're printed on! happy.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-17 17:27:34 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Cranefly's sending off his copy! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-17 17:28:41
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jan 17 2010, 05:23 PM) [snapback]697631[/snapback]
Just like yourself wink.gif Get back to your crosswords, at least your managing to get some of them correct, after a few attempts tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2010-01-17 17:36:12
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jan 17 2010, 05:32 PM) [snapback]697641[/snapback]
This 'cranefly' stuff is really getting to me, its very upsetting that such defamatory wording is being directed at poor wee me, please don't call me bad names, it makes me cry.....

Would you prefer Jenny Longlegs? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-17 17:52:43
QUOTE(Toby @ Jan 17 2010, 05:44 PM) [snapback]697644[/snapback]
Never my strongest subject Jag. Some of us are prone to the odd mistake here and there, which is why I always ask Jona to proof read, in spite of the fact he didn't get his degree from a proper university dry.gif .

I thought he was a Strathclyde wallah!
mortonjag 2010-01-17 17:57:19
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 17 2010, 05:46 PM) [snapback]697645[/snapback]
Hey I would consider anything (artistic wise blush.gif ) .

Get that Charlatan to sign a contract first Chris! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-17 18:00:08
QUOTE(Toby @ Jan 17 2010, 05:53 PM) [snapback]697649[/snapback]
Sorry, is Strathclyde okay in your books? Must not be keeping up!

It was an entirely improper University until two of my children became graduates. I then gave it a somewhat reluctant promotion! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-17 18:01:13
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 17 2010, 05:58 PM) [snapback]697651[/snapback]
Thanks for the advice cowshed warrior.

The options we had were.

A) get builder work to make inset fire possible. This would have cost about 1000 quid for the builder work, and another 1000 for installation of new fire.

or

B ) get a hang on the wall gas wire at acost of about £400

or

C) replace like for like outset fire which looks old fashioned.

We have decided to do neither A,B,or C. We are going to get a big new LCD TV instead.

Gas or electric? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-17 18:28:05
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 17 2010, 06:24 PM) [snapback]697657[/snapback]
Looks like they all died laughing. Did you tell them your story about Alastair Donald? biggrin.gif

No, I told them the one about Shoogly George Washington cutting down the Green Oak Tree! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-17 18:29:56
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 17 2010, 06:29 PM) [snapback]697662[/snapback]
Before someone else says it, green and brown.

Like a Cellic fan's arse?
mortonjag 2010-01-17 20:00:28
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 17 2010, 07:08 PM) [snapback]697673[/snapback]
rolleyes.gif

He's takin' the Michael!
mortonjag 2010-01-17 20:03:34
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 16 2010, 04:04 PM) [snapback]697214[/snapback]
ahve goat a bike but ah cannae deliver indians on it !

Madras midwife.
mortonjag 2010-01-17 20:06:01
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 17 2010, 06:52 PM) [snapback]697668[/snapback]
How uncouth.

Bigot's bottom? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-17 20:14:08
QUOTE(Zutons @ Jan 16 2010, 03:10 PM) [snapback]697184[/snapback]
i'm working tuesday night

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mortonjag 2010-01-17 20:18:25
QUOTE(garymcc1874 @ Jan 17 2010, 08:15 PM) [snapback]697719[/snapback]
I am genuinely astounded. Over a season, Peter isn't good enough. Vastly over-rated.

Not by those who would like his autograph! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-17 20:43:23
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 17 2010, 08:38 PM) [snapback]697734[/snapback]
We have Midden fans who come on here but they don't use the guise of our club . You are clearly one those people beyond contempt , probably your first time you've seen your team play away from your settee.

See you in the shed we'll be the ones in blue and white and you'll be in one of those stupid bumble bee numbers.

Indeed the Cellic strip is simply bizarre - not that the brain damaged clowns who spend their dole money on it would know it from an effin Union Jack.
mortonjag 2010-01-17 20:51:59
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 17 2010, 08:46 PM) [snapback]697740[/snapback]
[youtube]4QNHlFDbxvY[/youtube]

Famines over, go home.
Well if he's going to call us bigots, then we'll just have to play along. mad.gif

King Edwards v King Williams?
mortonjag 2010-01-17 20:54:15
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 17 2010, 08:50 PM) [snapback]697742[/snapback]
single speeds are for total specialists, man. you're better off with a hybrid and for 500 clams you could get a really good bike. try evans in braehead for a test ride, find out what sort of thing you like.

for that money i'd be tempted to go for one of these, but i'm a poseur.

Special Needs


Robin

Tri-1 Fixed Gear wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-17 20:55:35
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 17 2010, 08:54 PM) [snapback]697748[/snapback]
Love that site. If I were a cycliststic I'd definitely buy a Pashley.

If I were a psychotic I'd definitely come from Pishley?
mortonjag 2010-01-17 21:15:27
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 17 2010, 09:13 PM) [snapback]697757[/snapback]
They sound like good names for potato varieties.

Ayrshire tatties will always win though, ken. biggrin.gif

Yip - even when I was a wee boy my parents used to rave about Ayrshire 'new potatoes'.
mortonjag 2010-01-17 21:16:50
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 17 2010, 09:13 PM) [snapback]697758[/snapback]
Morton trained at Cappielow today and the pitch was still was in top condition when the finished, there is no surface water whatsoever on the park and in my opinion no chance of the going being called off.

Full credit to Mark Farrell for giving us one of the best playing surfaces in Scottish football.

And to Shoogly for cutting, rolling, spreading the turkey s*** etc!
mortonjag 2010-01-18 07:04:02
QUOTE(Grady @ Jan 17 2010, 11:31 PM) [snapback]697805[/snapback]
You're not kidding!

Per ardua ad astra!

I've worked ma baws off for years and only have a scooter.
mortonjag 2010-01-18 07:11:32
QUOTE(Grady @ Jan 18 2010, 12:37 AM) [snapback]697822[/snapback]
I very much doubt this will bring any loss of credibilty or loss of reputation to the Trust, especially considering that the allegations that have been made relate to money owed TO the Trust!

Mods - can I please request that this thread is deleted? It would respectful to cease talking about it. It is in relation to a police investigation after all!!!

Mods, my name is Grady's Gopher, and having just put in my tuppenceworth on this thread, I'm telling you to prevent everybody else from doing the same!

You see - I doubt if the topic will bring any loss of credibility or loss of reputation to the Trust so it would be respectful to stop talking about it!
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mortonjag 2010-01-18 07:14:10
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 18 2010, 07:07 AM) [snapback]697846[/snapback]
I posted 4 questions on Saturday.

They were general background questions and far from direct.

Then they were deleted.

Too much censorship ?

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There was a thread deleted on Saturday and then reinstated - could your questions have been in there Newt?
mortonjag 2010-01-18 07:17:54
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 17 2010, 09:56 PM) [snapback]697772[/snapback]
John Lewis do free 5 year guarntees, woth a look.

Never had you down as a Johnny Lewis type Bryan -my sister in law is never oot the place. Will now find it very hard to take you seriously!
mortonjag 2010-01-18 07:20:31 W$NKERS -the lot of them! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-18 07:21:40
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 18 2010, 03:16 AM) [snapback]697838[/snapback]
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I was so drunk that i got out my taxi the driver asked me if i was paying for it and i said the people in the taxi with me would be paying for it, he then informed me there was no one else in the taxi. That was when i realised i was very drunk. laugh.gif

You must have had a bucket.
mortonjag 2010-01-18 07:23:25
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 18 2010, 03:46 AM) [snapback]697841[/snapback]
just waiting for a new user - tontasticstutu

Tontastic's a POUFFE?
mortonjag 2010-01-18 07:30:34
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 18 2010, 03:21 AM) [snapback]697840[/snapback]
All posters are requested not to discuss matters that might be considered sub judice (currently in a court of law) or are under active consideration by law enforcement agencies (may be brought to a court of law).

Please remember that you are responsible for what you post. Posts which are reasonably considered to be inflammatory or causing defamation will be removed and posting privileges removed without warning.
Are posts about Dave King allowed ?

Any particular Dave King you were thinking about. There's a Dave King across the street from me - though he calls himself Daphne Queen - I guess he imagines the surname's kinda thumbing his nose at the authorities - anyway - to the point, an investigator from the Benefits Agency was going round the houses last week showing mug shots of the said Dave King, and I know for certain it's that Daphne 'cos the burqua fell off doon the Royal Bank when he was paying in his giro.
mortonjag 2010-01-18 07:47:09
QUOTE(Toby @ Jan 18 2010, 07:43 AM) [snapback]697854[/snapback]
Forgive my erratic spelling, the bolded piece you've quoted was intended to read "your filthy, pathetic, hate-filled outburst", hence mortonjag pointed out the poor quality of my English. I think that given the fact that it would appear you've yet to master capitalisation, you can understand we all make mistakes from time to time.

Anyway, where were we? Lack of abuse? At which point did Alibi, or TomMcB who I also had a go at for using the term durty orange basturts on another thread, direct their sectarian bile at me? They didn't- so whilst I was quick to point out the error of their ways, I've got every right to take more offfence to take that little bit more umbrage when sectarian hatred is thrown specifically in my direction as was the case with yourself.

Interesting too that you see this as me dilberately countering you at every opportunity when it has arisen from you putting your tuppence worth into something that had nothing to do with you- remember it was cowshed warrior's wee dig and not my own that kicked this off? Looks more to me like you're the one with the sad little crusade.

Your final point however is the most telling of all- sad little currant bun indeed. Thank you for confirming what I've known you are all along- a pathetic little intolerant bigot with no respect for others. You sir, really are Scotland's Shame.

Toby - I'm just wondering - and this is a serious question - how you two met?
mortonjag 2010-01-18 07:49:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 18 2010, 07:46 AM) [snapback]697855[/snapback]
I would ask but I received a PM from the mods telling me to stop asking questions.

ohmy.gif

Well they do state that badgering will only make matters worse, and bear in mind that the Mods know their badgers! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-18 08:03:29 Full marks to Farrell,
We had a barrel of fun
Full marks to Farrell,
We had them tymz on the run
Sing boom tararrel,
Ring out a song of good cheer
Now's the time to roll the barrel,
Ochiview we’re here.
mortonjag 2010-01-18 08:06:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 18 2010, 07:59 AM) [snapback]697861[/snapback]

Unbelievable - one and the same.
mortonjag 2010-01-18 08:07:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 18 2010, 08:02 AM) [snapback]697863[/snapback]
Nice ambiguity there, MJ.

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mortonjag 2010-01-18 09:15:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 18 2010, 08:35 AM) [snapback]697872[/snapback]
On January 18, 1912, Robert F. Scott and his expedition reached the South Pole.

Pity about Roald Amundsen and his mates.

Sex starved and hungry they decided to
mortonjag 2010-01-18 09:31:06 How do you solve a problem like Maria?
mortonjag 2010-01-18 11:39:06
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 18 2010, 10:37 AM) [snapback]697885[/snapback]
Not one of your better efforts.

It was not written for the Hardon Boys, Peter! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-18 12:19:54
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Jan 18 2010, 12:15 PM) [snapback]697898[/snapback]
We played Hibs off the park last year

would like to think we can do the same to the East end boys

Foobs rolleyes.gif

It's Stenny we're playing.
mortonjag 2010-01-18 13:02:22
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 18 2010, 12:56 PM) [snapback]697928[/snapback]
Falkirk went to Parkhead on Saturday, played 2 up front and almost came away with all 3 points. Go for it, if the players can't raise themselves for this one they should chuck it. With most of our squad out of contract in the summer it is the perfect opportunity to either demand a new contract or put themselves in the shop window.

I accord! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-18 13:04:54
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 18 2010, 12:41 PM) [snapback]697913[/snapback]
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I doubt that'll stop 'em. I can see it now: "Why didn't the club install 20 extra turnstiles, it's shambolic, they've known aboot this game for WEEKS, and my pie wiz cauld tae!"

Smug wee Mucky Boy already camped outside with the sleeping bag and Thermos! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-18 14:37:23
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 18 2010, 01:21 PM) [snapback]697950[/snapback]
I'd go with the same personnel and system as Piehutt but with one minor change. I think Neil MacFarlane would be the one to sit in front of the defence.

Stewart
Reid - Greacen - Shimmin - MacGregor
MacFarlane
Finlayson - Jenkins - Paartalu - McAlister
Weatherson

McGregor v McGeady should be interesting! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-18 15:36:12
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jan 18 2010, 03:02 PM) [snapback]697972[/snapback]
I'm pleased for you that you know your own name laugh.gif Just a pity your grasp of reality isn't so clear laugh.gif

Sez who!

Ya wee creep. Maybe better having a 'big heid' than being some microcephalic nonentity! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-18 15:40:53
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 18 2010, 03:07 PM) [snapback]697973[/snapback]
I have an Audi with a "Symphony" OEM stereo. Someone has pressed a combination of buttons that has switched off some of the info in the display and I don't know how to reset it. Does anyone have a similar unit or a manual for that model of stereo. I have a feeling that you switch it off, and then hold a button in while you switch it on again but there's a hell of a lot of buttons to try!

This may help
mortonjag 2010-01-18 16:55:12
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jan 18 2010, 03:58 PM) [snapback]697997[/snapback]
But you are a nonentity, or is that particular fact not penetrated your brain yet. laugh.gif

Your more laughed at than laughed with on this msg board laugh.gif Nobody outwith your msg board cabal actually takes your seriously laugh.gif Your just a legend in your own backyard laugh.gif

But never mind you'll get over it in time, hopefully not too much damage will be done to your ego.

God you and Dougie's personalities are soooooo alike. He's not your more successful half brother by any chance laugh.gif

And pleeeeeaaassssseeee keep posting, I just love it when you get it all wrong. Brightens up an otherwise dull Monday laugh.gif rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2010-01-18 17:50:13
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Jan 18 2010, 05:20 PM) [snapback]698036[/snapback]
All these daft laughing smileys after every sentence are doing my nut in. You're like weans.

-10 points for the first person to reply with a laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif post or similar. Ta.

Does Jaggy get to pat the dug's wee heid if he doesn't?
mortonjag 2010-01-18 17:56:53
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 18 2010, 04:11 PM) [snapback]698006[/snapback]
**JimSniggers **

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mortonjag 2010-01-18 18:12:21
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Jan 18 2010, 06:06 PM) [snapback]698055[/snapback]
no toby always walks by me, if he stopped to talk i would offer him a hot cross bun, though he may prefer a currant one

Can you blame him? Stale bread's bad enough, but after nine months yer buns must be tougher than leather.
mortonjag 2010-01-18 18:20:04
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 18 2010, 03:10 PM) [snapback]697975[/snapback]
Does McGeady not play on Celtic's left?

Normally! I think that even Mowbray is bright enough to send him down the right if DM's at left back (Aidsridden has been played in that role before). unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-18 18:22:47
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 18 2010, 06:20 PM) [snapback]698063[/snapback]
laugh.gif just for tvs, got a great deal wink.gif

Do you buy lots of them? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-18 18:34:28
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 18 2010, 06:30 PM) [snapback]698070[/snapback]
Mowbray probably doesn't even know who McGregor is.

It won't take him long to find out! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-18 18:38:26
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 18 2010, 06:23 PM) [snapback]698066[/snapback]
ph34r.gif just 1

I am currently being pestered to buy one of those vulgar wall mounted mini-cinemas. As I'm still getting good service from my wee 12 inch appliance I see no reason to change.
mortonjag 2010-01-18 18:47:18
QUOTE(honosthemis @ Jan 18 2010, 03:49 PM) [snapback]697991[/snapback]
hahahahahahah

ye've got the old fanny beat spotton.

he cannae handle being wrong so many times aboot so many things in the last month

hahahahahahahahha

all hes got noo is daft name calling. bet he's nearly greeting like a big jessie. Nae inside info and nae mates
there's beef stock chicken stock and MJstock. I mean laughing stock

hahahahahahhahahhahah

Measles' normocephalic cousin, the Red Setter of Kildare knee jerks protectively! Honos and Themis indeed - more like Tom and Jerry! Not like some mad Irish dug to get his Greek and Latin confused!
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mortonjag 2010-01-18 18:50:07
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 18 2010, 06:45 PM) [snapback]698078[/snapback]
BTW sawbones, your new Avatar-bad taste but funee laugh.gif

A bit tough, but washed down with a nice Chianti - cannae beat it! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-18 18:56:20
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jan 18 2010, 06:54 PM) [snapback]698084[/snapback]
whats the score with this thread.... has the trust been fidling the books or not ? why has it taken 2 months for this to be made public ? wheres the money gone ? is it worth attending any more trust related funding, as it now looks like the money raised wont reach the club ? can anyone shed any light on this ?

It is sub judice, Warrior! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-18 19:32:41
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jan 18 2010, 07:03 PM) [snapback]698087[/snapback]
have the culprits been caught then ? if not then surely at investigation stage then all possible considerations have to be made, all possible suspects and possible reasons can and should be discussed openly in order to ' prise out the truth' we shoiuld all consider ourselves investigators in this case, in order to help out our fellow supporters in the trust.

By prejudicing the ongoing enquiries and the chance of reaching the correct conclusion?

It is sub -judice Warrior.

If you want to discuss the Trust itself - be my guest. I'll start you off. A group of anonymous shareholders whose total stake is a piss in the ocean compared to Shoogly's, and run by some well intentioned eager beavers answerable to a couple of deluded choobs who couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.
mortonjag 2010-01-18 19:47:12
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 18 2010, 07:45 PM) [snapback]698099[/snapback]
Who couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery, the trust?

I thought my sentence was perfectly comprehensible, Kojie! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-18 19:49:59
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 18 2010, 07:48 PM) [snapback]698101[/snapback]
just answer the question, are you saying the trust could not organise a piss up in a brewery.

Just READ what I wrote! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-18 19:51:52 DON'T BLAME THE CLUB


Morton -v- Celtic [return]
The 4th round cup tie between Morton and Celtic will take place tomorrow (Tuesday)evening at Cappielow with a 7.45pm kick off.

Due to the large crowd expected for this game supporters are asked to make their way to the Ground earlier than normal to ensure that they are inside the ground prior to kick off.

Posted on 18 January, 2010
mortonjag 2010-01-18 19:59:43
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 18 2010, 07:53 PM) [snapback]698106[/snapback]
Given the guys that are running the trust are only answerable to their own members I'm of the opinion you meant the trust couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery, unless that is you thought they were answerable to anyone else.

Which leads me to the conclusion that you didn't understand what I wrote! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-18 20:10:48
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 18 2010, 08:02 PM) [snapback]698111[/snapback]
Ok, you tell me in idiot proof a sentence(s) then.

Don't be ridiculous Kojie. I'd simply be making you look daft if I broke down the sentence for you and explained the use of punctuation and grammar. You're not stupid. READ the sentence. What does the final part say?

Or to put it differently, why did you chuck the TRUSSSSSSSSSSSHT yourself? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-18 20:13:19
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 18 2010, 08:00 PM) [snapback]698110[/snapback]
Can't wait to mingle with the best supporters in Scotland. rolleyes.gif

YIP - no doubt we'll all be able to take a few tips from them! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-18 20:43:00
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 18 2010, 08:21 PM) [snapback]698118[/snapback]
I chucked the Trust because it became stale and lacked ambition, in my opinion it should have been a thorn in the clubs side when it came to asking questions, getting answers and getting things done, it should have been the fans voice and ears in that board room but it was failing.

But having said that, you cannot say there is not guys within their ranks that cannot organise and pull off cracking fundraising nights and other fundraising events, anyone who plays in the annual fans game or attended the stars of 79 night will tell you how good they were.

I entirely agree with everything you've just said which concurs with what I said. You just failed to analyse the sentence! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-18 20:48:26
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 18 2010, 08:29 PM) [snapback]698120[/snapback]
Im surprised nobody picked up on this, this place really has gone to the dogs.

For what it's worth i think Ghost is a cracking bird.

He does grouse a lot.
mortonjag 2010-01-18 20:53:10
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 18 2010, 08:47 PM) [snapback]698127[/snapback]
The point I was making though was that any events that the trust have organised have been 2nd to none, they are always excellent so the comment about organising a piss up in a brewery is way off the mark, the problem is though the organising is down to the same 2-3 guys every time with the usual suspects sitting back then taking plaudits.

Again I entirely concur and still you have misunderstood my sentence, Kojie.

Hint -'the same 2-3 guys' are referred to in one part while 'the usual suspects' are referred to later and qualified by 'who couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery'. smile.gif

We're singing from the same hymn sheet brother - oh and I'd like some strawberry on that lolly! wink.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-19 07:39:36
QUOTE(Fellow Traveller @ Jan 18 2010, 09:54 PM) [snapback]698153[/snapback]
Jim, it's not surprising you feel the way you do, nor is it a surprise that MJ has Trust members PMing him (if indeed he has) because I feel and I think quite a few of the current Trust board feel that the Trust has lost focus and direction. This seems to be not just a GMST problem but is symptomatic of the whole Supporter Trust movement in both Scotland and the UK. I think its a maturity problem where it has almost become part of the establishment. However, if we all chucked it we would be letting down all the people who put in the loan notes etc that got us our shareholding and leaving the way free for unscritinised activity by any majority shareholder of the club. The Trust needs desperately to refocus but to do that it needs new input from new members and new board members so that those of us who have been there frankly too long can stand aside. .........................Ft

Not like a Trusty to be distrusting eh! I won't embarrass you by copying and pasting one I received just half an hour before you posted, as they are PERSONAL messages.

QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Jan 18 2010, 10:00 PM) [snapback]698159[/snapback]
I don't believe I've ever said that.

You most certainly DID say that the Trust is NOT answerable to fans but only to members. You stoutly rebutted the popular notion that the previous poster was 'The fans representative on the Board' and produced an untintelligible mass of facts, figures, rules and regulations, which at the time convinced me that you were either attempting to 'blackout' my legitimate question about 'accountibility' or were so deluded and far up your own arse that you couldn't see the truth that Newt, and to a lesser degree Jim McC have pointed out here.

WHY is it, and I ask not for the first time, that only when the TRUSSSSSSSSHT is forced into the spotlight do the heid bummers drag their lazy arses defensively from the ivory towers ?

My comments here have no bearing whatsoever on another matter currently sub judice, and I state categorically that they are not intended to catalyse any discussion thereof.

It is evident to me, however, that the Trust in its present form may have been fatally wounded. I'm sure Mr Rae will be devastated.
mortonjag 2010-01-19 07:56:51
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 19 2010, 07:29 AM) [snapback]698222[/snapback]
too dear ?

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How DOES he manage it? laugh.gif



mortonjag 2010-01-19 08:02:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 19 2010, 07:54 AM) [snapback]698225[/snapback]
The trust is and will continue to be the second largest shareholder in the Ton.

May I suggest that you show them some respect, MJ.

Or more precisely, SD and his fellow committee memories.

They are doing a lot of good ... Fund raising, The Youth Academy, etc

They are certainly a committed committee.

Similar commitment from the squad tonight could lead to a great victory.

Are you suggesting that he's demented as well as deluded?
mortonjag 2010-01-19 11:30:11
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 19 2010, 10:46 AM) [snapback]698283[/snapback]
Boozehound has read this thread in it's entirety and he has come to the conclusion that referring to oneself in the third person is an extremely annoying trait.

Boozehound say no to drugs also.

laugh.gif Mortonjag opines that Boozehound is unaware of the definition of a 'trait'.

Mortonjag concurs with Boozehound that referring to oneself in the third person can be extremely annoying!

Mortonjag believes that drugs may be extremely stimulating. smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-19 11:37:48
QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Jan 18 2010, 09:54 PM) [snapback]698154[/snapback]
This appeared on the Trust website on 13 Oct 08

Dear Mr Donald,

I am writing to you on behalf of our members at The Greenock Morton Supporters’ Trust with regard to the exciting news released at the recent E.G.M. of Morton Football Club which indicated the extreme likelihood of a new stand being constructed at Cappielow Park in order to bring the stadium up to Scottish Premier League standards.
I understand that when you joined the Board of Directors earlier this year it was reported that you were not here to make a financial investment into the club. However, in light of this recent development, and with these additional shares now being available to help finance a new stand, I was wondering if your position has now changed?

It would certainly appear that the club are now preparing itself for entry to the S.P.L. (hopefully in the near future) and, as it was widely reported in the press some years ago that you had been interested in investing £10million in Rangers Football Club, I would ask if your position has changed with regards a financial investment in the club and if so, whether such an investment might be a precursor to you eventually making a bid for control of the club.

We appreciate these matters may be of a personal issues to yourself, however, they are also of vital interest to all of our Morton supporting members and we would much appreciate any response from you which we can share with all of our members.

And Stuart recollections of that meeting.

1. Intentions are still the same when he was invited onto the board. This was to have a look at the club and see if he could bring some of his business experience to bear, to see if things could maybe be done differently from a business perspective. Bring a fresh mind to the whole running of the club.

2. He has no intentions at the moment of buying the club. He believes the current board are doing a great job, they are very passionate about the club and its future. He may at some point in the future invest in the club.

3. As for the future he believes the club will improve and hopefully be ready for the SPL in three years time. He doesn’t believe it’s in anybodies interest for the club to try and make giant leaps forward and that any progress should be measured and done in a controlled manner, so no massive spending sprees.

4. He is not interested in the club for any other reason than his local family connections and that of his relationship with the Rae’s. He has no ulterior motive and no intention of doing a Hugh Scott.

5. He will not be attending every game as he does not live locally. His own family all live down south and therefore he will spend time with them and not always be at Cappielow. He will try his best to get to games but don’t expect to see him at Dingwall to watch Ross County Vs Morton.

6. He does not read the Morton Unofficial message board, somebody else does that for him, so he is aware of the comments that are made on there about him. He is surprised about some of the material that’s discussed in relation to himself and quite concerned about the whole publicity thing.

Overall I though he was very upfront and open, just a bit perplexed about all the publicity he was generating among the fans on the msg board. I got the impression that it was something he could certainly do without.


I'm aware of all of the above posted. What I meant was that the question was openly posed on the General Forum and then IMO sneakily transferred here!


Anyway, did you personally have reason to alter your opinion on Mr Donald, and if so are you willing to say why. I already know, of course, the story that was put to you by 'The Club'.
mortonjag 2010-01-19 12:01:51 I can fly!
mortonjag 2010-01-19 12:30:52
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 19 2010, 12:21 PM) [snapback]698313[/snapback]
FFS 'prickly' you are not telling us that the club fed him some story to alter any impressions he had.

Peoples opinions can change when they get to know folk and for various other reasons. A lot of folk were taken in by HS (everyone apart from Barbarossa that is), what's your point? The feedback were relevant and honest at the time.

Just like your prediction was with Irons at the end of the season.

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I quite like that name Kojie!

I'm not telling you anything. I asked a question of Mr Duncan - not of his loyal buddy of twenty three years.

Will I get that sook tonight, or should we wait till it's quieter? wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-19 12:40:18
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 19 2010, 12:18 PM) [snapback]698310[/snapback]
I'm well aware of the definition of a trait Doc. Referring to yourself in the third person is a characteristic of your posts on this thread, therefore it can be classed as a trait. Obviously a trait of your posts rather than of yourself.

Don't mess with me when I'm on the crack. mad.gif

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QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 19 2010, 12:26 PM) [snapback]698321[/snapback]
Where do we stop? Now its even the allegations have allegedly been made. laugh.gif I do agree re the purpose of the trust. They are the voice of the Morton fans when it suits them and yet appear only to represent their members when asked a difficult question.

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mortonjag 2010-01-19 12:45:25
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 18 2010, 09:53 PM) [snapback]698152[/snapback]
I await Dougie drooling over his programme notes with "its so nice to see so many with shared allegiances wearing the commemorative scarves "

And I'm sure I can say without a shadow of a doubt that our boys will be up for it and irrespective of the final result will give us an evening's entertainment which we won't forget for years to come.

QUOTE(Grady @ Jan 18 2010, 10:32 PM) [snapback]698178[/snapback]
Lightweights tongue.gif
I make my way to the ground as 'normal' at around 2.20pm. Should I leave work earlier?

Ask JG!
mortonjag 2010-01-19 12:52:03
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 19 2010, 12:42 PM) [snapback]698334[/snapback]
What you laughing at, eh? I treat your posts as characters so they can have traits. Right? mad.gif

I better eat my dinner before I get any angrier. blush.gif

Snap Boozy - I get a stifffy every time you post! [attachment=6348:throb.gif]
mortonjag 2010-01-19 12:56:33
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 19 2010, 12:53 PM) [snapback]698345[/snapback]
I can snap knicker elastic at 10 paces.

I've pulled trapped Snickers' wrappers from 10 poosies.
mortonjag 2010-01-19 13:18:04
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 19 2010, 12:20 PM) [snapback]698312[/snapback]
The Evening Times reckon that Celtic will have to play against a difficult pitch tonight. That'll be the same difficult best pitch in the first division and probably better than some of the tattie fields in the SPL. But hey what do we know, we're just a wee diddy team.

...and the Herald describes it as a 'narrow sodden pitch'.

Narrow and sodden - is he thinking of the Cellic fans?
mortonjag 2010-01-19 13:20:01
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 19 2010, 01:07 PM) [snapback]698355[/snapback]
laugh.gif I liked it to,

The thing is I might have known him for 23yrs but it hasn't stopped me from disagreeing with him on occasions.

No sook tonight 'prickly' midTONs has bigger fish to fry. laugh.gif

Stuart's plaice? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-19 13:52:57
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 19 2010, 01:48 PM) [snapback]698378[/snapback]
ohmy.gif ohmy.gif don't mention tatties FFS you'll get accused of alsorts wink.gif

I like the orange ones from Bassets.
mortonjag 2010-01-19 13:55:15
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jan 19 2010, 01:53 PM) [snapback]698380[/snapback]
to be honest it would probably take you 5 days to walk accross this bed laugh.gif

...and another five to clean up the crap he drooled while doing so.
mortonjag 2010-01-19 14:25:56
QUOTE(crdwellbar @ Jan 19 2010, 01:59 PM) [snapback]698388[/snapback]
Was up at the stadium today picking up the last of my tickets for 2night and i thought the pitch looked as good as it always does, cant wait for the game now really good feeling for some reason, cmon the ton.

So was I and thought the pitch looked great - not like this at all

'Throw in the prospect of an unfamiliar old ground, (described previously as 'rickety old stadium') a narrow, sodden pitch, and a hostile home crowd baying for blood'!

Today's Herald. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-19 14:43:11 rolleyes.gif I think not.
mortonjag 2010-01-19 14:44:51
QUOTE(Jamie_M @ Jan 19 2010, 02:43 PM) [snapback]698405[/snapback]
Their pitch related comments are not a slight on the usual condition of thie pitch - just an uneducated guess at what the pitch might be like after 4 postponments and a subsequent big thaw...

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mortonjag 2010-01-19 15:17:08
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 19 2010, 02:59 PM) [snapback]698415[/snapback]
At last something you and Puggs can agree on unsure.gif

Nae chance Chris! [attachment=6349:hit.gif]

QUOTE(rex manning @ Jan 19 2010, 03:10 PM) [snapback]698420[/snapback]
a manager in James Grady who hopes to ally fluency to the functionality of the Davie Irons era.

ha ha well thats a nice way to put it i suppose.

Era year anna half! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-19 15:19:47
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jan 19 2010, 02:50 PM) [snapback]698407[/snapback]
Yes Davie will get destroyed, unfortunately if McGuffie is out then i thing Grady will play McGregor. Personally i would be tempted to play Kev at right back, shift Jim across to Right mid and play Monti on the left.

This could be a very long night.

On a side note i hope we dont do that stupid huddle tonight.

Fair point - it will certainly look daft to the best fans in Scotland! blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-19 15:37:43
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 19 2010, 02:53 PM) [snapback]698409[/snapback]
It's a folk song rolleyes.gif
unsure.gif unsure.gif blink.gif ph34r.gif

Sung by folk who eat potatoes (amongst other things I hasten to add)! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-19 15:45:06
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 19 2010, 03:38 PM) [snapback]698428[/snapback]
I believe

YIP
mortonjag 2010-01-20 06:26:25
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jan 20 2010, 01:12 AM) [snapback]698878[/snapback]
Have to say the celtic fans put us to shame tonight. I know most of them had prob downed a couple of ports after dinner, but they created the atmosphere... we were silent for the mostpart.

No you don't Piehole. You did because you chose to.

I don't know why I'm admitting this and maybe it's just because I'm bad loser, but I'd happily have started up a bulldozer behind the WDE goals last night and headed for Gourock. rip.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 06:34:11
QUOTE(hayfever @ Jan 20 2010, 06:29 AM) [snapback]698912[/snapback]
An embarrassment is the last thing we needed from that game, so in that respect a 0-1 reverse is probably not a terrible result in a match that in all fairness we should have little to no expectation to win.

I see Nach0's point however, that it doesn't sound like it was a rip-roaring 'get intae them' performance that had them rattled and they were lucky to scrape through. It can't always be though, and they'll give many a better team than us a sound doing this season.

Roll on the relegation dog-fight...

I don't intend to read the thread as it's all about opinions. Don't worry about a relegation dog fight though. I've now seen enough to have confidence in Grady getting us a comfy mid table finish. I predicted 4th at the beginning of the season even when Sheep Lips was still here!

Roll on our 2-0 victory at Kirkcaldy this Saturday.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 06:42:42 Thanks for the reports guys and no thanks to Sportscene for keeping me up last night to watch one of the most biased pieces of pro OF editing I've ever seen. The comment from (was it Nevin or Craigen) that Celtic never got out of second gear and could 'easily have upped their game if they'd had to', did little credit to Morton - in fact Morton were rarely mentioned. Maybe those guys were only talking on the basis of seeing the highlights themselves. If so, I rest my case. mad.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 06:47:22
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 19 2010, 10:55 PM) [snapback]698709[/snapback]
That'll be because compared to Boruc everyone on the park looked skinny! unsure.gif

smile.gif

He does have a somewhat chubby posterior.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 06:51:21
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 19 2010, 05:53 PM) [snapback]698462[/snapback]
Chairmans notes in the programme - Weatherson signs atwo year extension

Yes, I'm sure I heard somebody announce that over the tannoy last night. [attachment=6350:hit.gif]
mortonjag 2010-01-20 06:58:56
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 20 2009, 02:35 PM) [snapback]683206[/snapback]
Globespan were owed around £35m by their credit card clearing company E-Clear. That's a big sum of money in any language but it was huge to Globespan - their monthly wage bill, for example was only about £1.5 -£2m. The reason the money was withheld in theory was that it was held until it was non refundable to customers. Globespan could not get flight cancellation insurance because insurance companies stopped taking on small airlines following getting their fingers burnt with the likes of Zoom and XL.

Trouble is, in this instance more than half of the money was due in respect of flights that had landed i.e past the time when customers could have reclaimed. E-Clear are trying hard to come with reasons why they withheld the money.

Well here's a suggestion for one! The chief exec of E-Clear is a Mr Elias. Globespan were trying to do a deal with a Jersey Trust - Halcyon Investments - set up as an investment vehicle for a number of wealthy and anonymous businessmen. Offshore trusts are a pretty murky area and finding out who controls them is difficult but in this case, it emerges that a leading investor in Halcyon is no other than Mr Elias. Could withholding money from Globespan be anything to do with making them desperate and driving down the price Elias and his cronies could acquire it for?

Guys like this are where the adjective 'dirty' comes from when describing certain capitalists. They play for money with a complete disregard for the impact on anyone else. I hope the administrator really nails him bigtime!


Whereas a clean capitalist is the sort of person who buys for twopence and sells for a penny.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 08:09:00
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 20 2010, 07:14 AM) [snapback]698919[/snapback]
naw, MJ, a clean capitalist is the sort of person who makes millions and sells them for 99p.

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mortonjag 2010-01-20 08:13:59
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jan 20 2010, 12:53 AM) [snapback]698863[/snapback]
I agree with those sentiments.

We started ok, and lost a poor goal... ok that can happen. But as the game wore on and we were still in the game I just felt we didn't have enough desire.

The crowd was flat as well, probably cause everyone was sober and perhaps taking it a bit too seriously with all the talk of Celtic being dross and giving Morton a chance etc.

All in all I was really dissapointed with things, and the only saving grace was that Celtic really didn't break a sweat so the scoreline was respectable.

Still, nice to see 10,000 + in Cappielow for only the 2nd time in my living memory.

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mortonjag 2010-01-20 08:15:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 20 2010, 07:16 AM) [snapback]698921[/snapback]
You would have done better starting on the half way line and getting up some speed in the first 50 metres.

Indeed -at the kick off laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 08:21:59 dry.gif
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 2 0 2010, 07:20 AM) [snapback]698922[/snapback]
Can't argue with that at all... I wonder where he'll end up next, though.
Oh, you know who it was. wink.gif

It couldn't have been Shoogly because he always walks on to the park with his microphone ('Are you up for it'/ 'Are you there Bobby').

Having said that maybe he's too embarrassed - a Morton legend having to use a stick - never stopped Allan McGraw mind you! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 08:23:46
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 20 2010, 07:26 AM) [snapback]698925[/snapback]
Ahh, you noticed too then... laugh.gif

The first think I notice about any man is his bum. wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 08:26:35
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 20 2010, 07:41 AM) [snapback]698926[/snapback]
I know that compared with you and DouglasJag I’m an amateur at talking up my own intelligence but it didn’t actually. rolleyes.gif

Indeed Peter, you just do it for the love of it! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 08:43:22
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 20 2010, 08:39 AM) [snapback]698943[/snapback]
Strange as both sides of the cowshed were singing lots from where i was standing, although a lot of the times singing parts of the same song. Also Mowbray said there was a good atmosphere, the players seemed to appreciate who backing they got at half time and fulltime aswell as various news outlets saying the Morton fans backed their team well and the atmosphere was good.

You should probably find a new place to stand/sit.

Compared to the atmosphere we created at the Killie (Big Sanny) cup game, I thought we were overall disappointing last night and easily outshouted by that reciprocating mass of drink sodden sh*t behind the WDE goal. mad.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 09:19:30
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 20 2010, 08:50 AM) [snapback]698949[/snapback]
All the singing Celtic fans were huddled together though. Morton fans were scattered everywhere, no doubt with Celtic fans sprinkled amongst them.

Im sure if we'd had more shots on goal it would have been louder, lets not forget that we beat Kilmarnock in that game and generally played very well.

It depended on your vantage point. From the stand it became obvious that when the shed DID get into good voice (and that happened quite a few times) that frenzy of faecal filth was audibly obliterated. Would that the pressure could have been continuous.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 09:21:05
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 20 2010, 08:58 AM) [snapback]698954[/snapback]
I heard that one as well. Its a pity that for about 3-4000 of the Morton support on the night don't turn up regularly.

It puzzles me too. What motivates them on a night like last?
mortonjag 2010-01-20 09:24:56
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 20 2010, 08:52 AM) [snapback]698950[/snapback]
That will be why you have a signature like you do. rolleyes.gif

Finlayson has been hit and miss this season, McAllister has been far worse. One thing to remember, Finlayson didn't look out of place against Celtic.
He needs more consistancy to his game I grant you. but we could say that about most of the players in the squad.

As a willing workhorse he never looks out of place. As an attacking right sided player he's good second division material and even at that, NEVER a winger.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 09:37:08 After all they're just nutters
mortonjag 2010-01-20 09:57:31
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 20 2010, 09:46 AM) [snapback]698979[/snapback]
Didn't think there was really much more they could have added towards Morton. If we're sitting hoping for a montage of clips of us closing players down then we're quite pathetic. The BBC would have loved it if we'd won last night, and if we'd played well and took the game to Celtic our game would have been on first. In reality it was a poor game with very little in the way of chances or skill, and it looked like they really only showed somewhat extended highlights because they had to, but they were really scraping the barrel trying to find stuff, which is why it was so half hearted.

I have to say aswell, as much as i disliked the camera gantry being further up the cowshed against Kilmarnock, the tv footage of the Celtic game was too close to the pitch and looked awful.

Agreed, so why deliberately miss out Wakey's very good first touch and turn in the box which gave him an unsuccessful goalscoring opportunity? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 09:58:54
QUOTE(ritchifan @ Jan 20 2010, 09:53 AM) [snapback]698983[/snapback]
Agreed and Mcfarlane is a complete waste of a strip !

Nookie footie - bring it on! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 10:42:47
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 20 2010, 10:03 AM) [snapback]698987[/snapback]
Because the keeper didn't even have to make a save. There was plenty of Celtic half chances that they didn't show aswell, although some of them were showed later on to emphasise how poor Fortune was, and lets face it the main thing even Morton fans came away from the game thinking was just how poor Fortune was. He was the most entertaining thing about the game. I hardly think they were unbelievably biased, there was just nothing to talk about when it came to Morton in an attacking sense.

It's all very good us talking about what the problems with Morton are on here, and our attacking problems but it doesn't exactly make great tv.

They threw the game on at the end because they had to, showed the few chances on goal that there was and then discussed that Celtic were poor but always comfortable, thats the end of it and completely fair in my opinion. If all they have to talk about at the end of highlights is that Celtic were poor but always comfortable then really we have nothing to complain about, they hardly stole our moment of glory.

laugh.gif laugh.gif

Aye very good - always comfortable five minutes from the end when you're only one goal ahead.

The truth is that the report was vastly biased towards Cellic.

...and DON'T argue with me! [attachment=6352:hit.gif]
mortonjag 2010-01-20 10:48:45
QUOTE(ritchifan @ Jan 20 2010, 10:26 AM) [snapback]699005[/snapback]
I witnessed a mother who was wearing a morton scarf in the seated part of the shed being told by the polis that her sons could not wear there celtic scarfs in that part of the ground , and they duelly took them off.

When the vastly overrated glasgow pre-madonnas' scored this same woman jumped up and cheered swinging her morton scarf over her heed.

DOH ! blink.gif

Did she show you the birth certificates with the names of both fathers? [attachment=6353:roflmao.gif]
mortonjag 2010-01-20 10:55:27
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 20 2010, 10:48 AM) [snapback]699028[/snapback]
If you're Irish, come into the parlour.

Where the f**k do you think you're going, McGeady?
Is McGeady actually Nigerian? It's just that i heard his mother had a lot of Nigerian in her...

Nigerians?
mortonjag 2010-01-20 10:56:52
QUOTE(standman @ Jan 20 2010, 10:49 AM) [snapback]699031[/snapback]
Although the highlights were short and sweet, I was hoping for another look at the penalty claim in the first half whenit appeared that Wake was hauled down in the box.

Of course, the ref may have been correct however it would have been good to see the incident again to make up our own minds.

Port ton can explain! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 10:57:45
QUOTE(Deego @ Jan 20 2010, 10:48 AM) [snapback]699026[/snapback]
Donno about the Celtic fans but there was plenty of racist abuse from the Morton end.

What were they saying? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 10:59:02
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 20 2010, 10:47 AM) [snapback]699025[/snapback]
I can confirm there was a bit of trouble at McDonalds. I dropped the straw for my large strawberry milkshake from the Drive Through and it went under my seat and got lost. However 4 polis arrived on the scene promptly and after beating me and Alexton with their truncheons for a few minutes, they went and got us another straw.

You deserved it for driving that thing.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 11:01:24
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 20 2010, 10:53 AM) [snapback]699035[/snapback]
How is this Nicola Sturgeon's shame as you allege? Is this not some sort of independent review and report? Skimming through that article, I don't see any mention of Sturgeon and it reads as if the government hasn't made any decision about implementing it anyway.

She's the boss and they want to scrap the tribunals to save dosh. She gets paid lots of MUNNY for being the boss too - the wee soul. smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 11:02:36
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 20 2010, 11:00 AM) [snapback]699043[/snapback]
He deserved it for eating 'food' from McDonalds.

Only Peter can contrive to eat a milk shake.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 11:04:28
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jan 20 2010, 10:52 AM) [snapback]699034[/snapback]

Mr McCormack, 54, denied making a comment to players in the presence of the female physiotherapist about letting her see who had "the biggest tadger".
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mortonjag 2010-01-20 11:05:48
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 20 2010, 11:04 AM) [snapback]699048[/snapback]
Jeeesus, will you give it a rest? Put your petted lip away and give us peace - that's history, what the hell's the point in bringing it up yet again?? dry.gif

Because Shoogly's a daft old fud? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 11:10:05
QUOTE(Thrax @ Jan 20 2010, 11:07 AM) [snapback]699055[/snapback]
Lets all be honest here...there will have been celtic casuals and morton casuals, both sets looking to fight the other and both as bad as one another. From what i've heard from people who made the game - sadly i was not there sad.gif - it was tit for tat.

Gotta remember there will have been alot of "fans" there from both sides who dont go to football matches very often anyway and there was always going to be a few moments of hostility at this tie. Think anybody who wasnt expecting it is kidding themselves on tongue.gif

Sounds like it was a good night regardless of how crap the actual match appears to have been. Atmosphere would have been cracking

Thought you were a Ton fan! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 11:35:26
QUOTE(Deego @ Jan 20 2010, 11:09 AM) [snapback]699056[/snapback]
Cannae mind exactly, but "chinky bastard" and "nigger" was the idea of it.
Well, it was certainly coming from around me.

Kev does have a sort of Mongoloid look at times but that was a wee bit unkind about his legitmacy. As for Big Bad Dom -doubt if he'd bother his arse.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 11:41:28
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 20 2010, 11:17 AM) [snapback]699064[/snapback]
Nae idea if he has or he hasn't. That's not the point; to go on and on ad infinitum about it is as tedious as reading moronjag's back catalogue of "smiley" posts.

Let it go. Move on with your lives. And stop being so bloody juvenile and tedious.


Ipse dixit! [attachment=6355:sHa_dielaughing_1_.gif]
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 20 2010, 11:34 AM) [snapback]699072[/snapback]
Just read on Inverclyde Now that a man was arrested last night after Ton v Tic for sectarian offences and carrying an offensive weapon. I can't do links.

Charged with having an offensive person on his weapon? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 11:47:08
QUOTE(scotia morton @ Jan 20 2010, 11:44 AM) [snapback]699081[/snapback]
My point is that for a crowd of 10,000 I find it strange that only around 1 in 10 people bought a ticket compared to 1 in 3 for a normal game!

Whatever the reason, I most certainly agree with your perception. Even with sub 2000 crowds we've pulled in £350.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 11:47:38
QUOTE(scotia morton @ Jan 20 2010, 11:44 AM) [snapback]699081[/snapback]
My point is that for a crowd of 10,000 I find it strange that only around 1 in 10 people bought a ticket compared to 1 in 3 for a normal game!

Whatever the reason, I most certainly agree with your perception. Even with sub 3000 crowds we've pulled in £350.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 11:51:09
QUOTE(Marshall_2oo7 @ Jan 20 2010, 11:47 AM) [snapback]699086[/snapback]
Wee guy infront of me was racially abusing Fortune before I told him to keep his mouth shut.

Are you fluent in French? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 11:52:49
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Jan 20 2010, 11:48 AM) [snapback]699088[/snapback]
I agree with this. I thought we did ok last night and didn't humiliate ourselves. We could have played for a week and not scored though. A team like Dundee or a team in our division on a decent run would have had a real chance against Celtic tonight. Thought most of the team put in a good shift, although thought Jenkins was a man down.
Why is that so funny??

Did somebody say that it was funny? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 12:00:30
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 20 2010, 11:53 AM) [snapback]699091[/snapback]
For me there's been a consistency from the media towards this match since Dunfermline were kicked out of the cup.

I've been really annoyed to read in most reports that Dunfermline were playing Celtic in the next round with no mention of having to beat Morton first. Dunfermline v Celtic game was also already booked for live TV coverage, and the loss of revenue was included in Dunfermline's woes. I really felt justice could be done if Morton were to win this match.

I got back up to Stonehaven after the match around 1pm looking forward to the highlights which I'd recorded. I was disgusted with the tone of the programme from the commentary to the presenter putting words in the mouths of two willing co-operators in Nevin and Craigan. The tone was that Celtic were comfortable, never in danger and everyone played their role so well you knew what they were going to say next.

It became clear that the BEEB realised they had to make out the outcome was never in danger to justify the ridiculously biased coverage of the tie and it's connection with the Dunfermline fiasco. Craigan totally blew the facade out of all proportion when he said Celtic were playing in second gear and could have shifeted up a gear at any time if required.

Does he really expect people to believe a team struggling to win a game with their Manager under pressure and still trying to build his own team, could put his team out to deliberately play in second gear? His team plays a pedestrian passing game which is part of why he's being critisised. I read one ludicrous statement at the weekend that "Celtic bombarded Falkirk with possession". Were they playing in second gear then also, and could step it up if required?" Craigan trying to set himself up for a permanent TV job but should get real, recent Arsenal v Celtic or Barcelona v Celtic would meet the criteria of teams playing in a lower gear, Celtic don't have anything like that luxury.

I left the match feeling quite proud of Morton and the fact they'd competed well. I'm afraid the TV coverage deflated me and sent me to bed with a bad taste in my mouth.

Amen.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 12:04:02
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 20 2010, 12:00 PM) [snapback]699095[/snapback]
Went the same way to get on the motorway. Saved a lot of hassle.
http://www.inverclydenow.com/news-detail4.asp?ID=3878

Yip - we dodged up the back and down Lilybank and back onto M8 in the Port. Dropped my brother off in the West End and was still home before ten thirty.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 12:08:40
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jan 20 2010, 12:06 PM) [snapback]699100[/snapback]
i had a wee look round the crowd last night and only saw one individual with the audacity to wear one. Surely that was a poor idea by the club who have no doubt made a loss on that particular venture.

Only saw one in the stand - a big fat choob at the pie stall.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 12:29:18
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 20 2010, 12:11 PM) [snapback]699102[/snapback]
I think the point is Weatherson's game needs someone like McGowan playing off him to capitalise. It's a pity Grady's past his best because he showed he can play off Peter in the way I'm suggesting. I'm hoping Johansson can come in and have similar awareness.

It's really a shame that this debate roars on and on.

I haven't seen many players in the first division who can direct a ball with the head as well as Spoonsy can and that INCLUDES scoring goals if the supply is there.

If he's to be used as a 'target man' I agree with the proposition that a 'poacher' would compliment him well.

What we REALLY need though, is a proper supply from the wings and a creative through running midfielder.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 12:35:28
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 20 2010, 12:25 PM) [snapback]699111[/snapback]
Showing the penalty claim, Wake's late effort and one or two other scares for Celtic would have meant drastically altering the tone of the programme. Did you not see there was a theme and everyone had a role to play?

If it had even been on first I could at least have got off to bed! It was quite frankly an indictment of the incestuous relationship of the media with the OF.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 12:39:07 I've always believed that Nevin was perceptive, articulate, reasonably unbiased, and had a sense of humour.

After watching that joke last night I'm not so sure. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 12:44:17
QUOTE(Savo @ Jan 20 2010, 12:41 PM) [snapback]699128[/snapback]
Agree with the bit in bold. I thought it was a bit subdued. There wasn't an edge to the atmosphere, maybe because everyone realised Celtic are not the big deal they once were.

They are a mediocre outfit at best and I thought it was a real pity we exerted so little pressure on them at the back, where they were vulnerable and there for the taking. That lack of adventure on the park also contributed to the lack of buzz around the ground as the game wore on.

On the other hand, the Green Brigade/Green Brigades? mob were obviously mad for it and never shut up the whole game. Thought that might happen with them getting a chance to stand at an old-fashioned ground.

It looked like the c*nts thought they were in Dublin and not at the WDE! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 12:46:25
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 20 2010, 12:44 PM) [snapback]699132[/snapback]
I was home just before 10:30 to Mr Jag, and that was with a 5 min stop at the petrol station at Renfrew/Paisley border.

Like me, you obviously hid the Ton scarf to get through without being searched!
mortonjag 2010-01-20 12:52:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 20 2010, 12:43 PM) [snapback]699130[/snapback]
huh.gif

Isn't that Puggs, second up on the left? [attachment=6357:sneaky.gif]
mortonjag 2010-01-20 12:56:59
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jan 20 2010, 12:52 PM) [snapback]699143[/snapback]
The tannoyman was very clear and sounded 'professional' I did chuckle at the local team comment at the time but I'm almost certainly in the minority in thinking that it was a bit below the belt. Would have been more gracious to thank all the fans for attending - but that's just me . (Maybe Mr Mcarthur agrees)

Overall , a great show Inverally.

Was it f*ck - it was a legitimate right hook at a shower of sad glory hunters who head up the M8 every week. dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 13:04:59
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 20 2010, 12:59 PM) [snapback]699148[/snapback]
So great that he let Fortune get the wrong side of him to get a weak cross across the goal face for their goal. He was one of our poorer performers last night I thought. Even Grady is quoted as saying it was a basic error.
Apparently it's called "the modern day footballer" where footballers play a utility role in a number of positions.

I actually quite like the expression 'feckless jack of all trades' though I can think of a couple of players who deserve that title more than McGuffie.

Note: 'feckless' is not automatically neutralised by 'hard working'.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 13:07:15
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 20 2010, 01:03 PM) [snapback]699155[/snapback]
It's hard enough playing Celtic, but when they have Craig Thomson to assist them at every turn too, it makes it near impossible. Crosas kicked Weatherson all over the park and each time got a talking to. Big Greac makes one late tackle and is straight in the book. Thomson is a Grade 1 Tosser never mind ref. I don't know what he has against us - maybe Dougie had his wife?

Boyfriend. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 13:09:05
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jan 20 2010, 01:02 PM) [snapback]699153[/snapback]
McGeady doesn't deliver often enough... and certainly didn't last night.

He clearly has ability and can go by players, but too often he runs into trouble and can't finish a pea.

£8million.... no way is he worth that in the current climate.

I don't like McGeady - I've never met him but simply think he looks like a wee sh*te. Having said that, he can come and play for us any time!
mortonjag 2010-01-20 13:11:50
QUOTE(GDAWG @ Jan 20 2010, 01:06 PM) [snapback]699158[/snapback]
surely should have been Graham for Wake or for Jenkins/McFarlane and go for it.

Why?
mortonjag 2010-01-20 13:14:22
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jan 20 2010, 01:01 PM) [snapback]699151[/snapback]
I accept that I'm in the minority. (a situation well known to yourself, obviously tongue.gif )

Wouldn't have it any other way Cloth Ears. The great unwashed have a corporate IQ of 75.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 13:16:43
QUOTE(Savo @ Jan 20 2010, 01:14 PM) [snapback]699172[/snapback]
Granted, launching them is not really on but the outraged way some people react to the very presence of a flare at a match shows that the sanitisation of football in this country is nearly complete, more's the pity.

Saw a Cellic fan last night with a roll of green and white carpet over his shoulder.

Obviously had a flair for it.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 13:18:25
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Jan 20 2010, 01:14 PM) [snapback]699173[/snapback]
Well you highlighted a part of a post & then put an icon of rolling about the ground laughing underneath it. So yes, you suggested it ya madman.

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mortonjag 2010-01-20 13:19:37
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 20 2010, 01:15 PM) [snapback]699174[/snapback]
Oh for ****s sake. laugh.gif

We're in a relegation battle Mortonjag, accept it. Lose on Saturday and we're 14 points behind Raith, who have a game in hand. There's also no indication whatsoever that we're going to start winning soon.

Eighth is the highest position we'll be finishing this season.

We will win by two goals on Saturday. smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 13:21:18
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 20 2010, 01:19 PM) [snapback]699181[/snapback]
And as we always know you like to agree with perfecptions without facts!
The people who always go bought their 50/50. Some others there for the night did also. Most didn't.

Get over it and move on.

What are you gibbering about you little cretin?
mortonjag 2010-01-20 13:22:27
QUOTE(GDAWG @ Jan 20 2010, 01:21 PM) [snapback]699184[/snapback]
In this match I think Graham would have been a more attacking threat.

Who was going to supply him?
mortonjag 2010-01-20 13:27:07
QUOTE(GDAWG @ Jan 20 2010, 01:25 PM) [snapback]699189[/snapback]
Macalister/Finlayson/Jenkins

That's CRAZY - they'd just spent the whole night supplying nobody. Young Kane came on as a sub against (I think) Raith and put over a stunning cross after an aggressive run down the right.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 13:28:58
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jan 20 2010, 01:26 PM) [snapback]699194[/snapback]
I know it was a poor Celtic team but we handled them fairly well and came out of last nights game with some self respect. We're always looking for potential kickstarts to our season. I'm hoping that last night will give the players a boost and help them play to their potential. We've got young Tidser on board now (and the possibility of other signings to strengthen the squad ?)

Am I wrong to start feeling optimistic again ? blush.gif

NOPE - win on Saturday guaranteed. Poor McGurn! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 13:30:18
QUOTE(GDAWG @ Jan 20 2010, 01:29 PM) [snapback]699199[/snapback]
coming on 4-0 up against 10 man Raith. or coming on 1-0 down v celtic a goal away from a replay, bit oa a difference.

Yes.

That does not alter the reality of what I just stated.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 13:35:48 Any news on the new Mod?
mortonjag 2010-01-20 13:53:27
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 20 2010, 01:41 PM) [snapback]699205[/snapback]
If we do, we'll still be in a relegation battle.

SO!
mortonjag 2010-01-20 13:54:31
QUOTE(dumbarTON @ Jan 20 2010, 01:42 PM) [snapback]699206[/snapback]
A lassie behind us came out with an absolute gem

"Ya jewish f.enian b.astard"

I dont think she understood the word oxymoron.... laugh.gif ph34r.gif

jewish = oxy? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 13:56:47
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 20 2010, 01:47 PM) [snapback]699211[/snapback]
Now that one was a big typo!

In fact, I think I'll put my spell-check at home (don't have it in work) for mozilla off just so those typos get posted a lot more, just to give you some justification to avoid points raised and rather pick up on those errors smile.gif

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mortonjag 2010-01-20 13:58:33
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 20 2010, 01:54 PM) [snapback]699221[/snapback]
You're saying we shouldn't worry about a relegation battle, even though we're already in one.

Relegation comes in May dear. On Saturday we shall commence a glorious run of unbeaten games. Within a month we shall be in a mid table battle! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 14:00:33
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 20 2010, 01:59 PM) [snapback]699227[/snapback]
Just confirm your status as the boards resident old man who shouts in the corner desperate for attention then when gets it suddenly has memory loss and sh1ts themself...in possibly more ways than 1 smile.gif

That is quite unintelligible. Please switch on those gadgets which make your English semi-decipherable. mad.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 14:02:18
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 20 2010, 01:59 PM) [snapback]699229[/snapback]
Delusion.

Delusion has stopped, and we're about to start dewinnion.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 14:07:47
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 20 2010, 02:02 PM) [snapback]699234[/snapback]
Now now rattler, address the points like someone we respect smile.gif

Your 'point' was utterly illogical and made no attempt at statistical analysis. Rather sad for a purported accountant!

The fact is that we can generate £350 from a sub 3000 crowd, and last night, less than twice as much from a crowd in excess of 10,000.

It does not seem unreasonable to ask why!

Your calculator will not give the answer.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 16:10:24
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 20 2010, 02:26 PM) [snapback]699253[/snapback]
It's definitely the "University" of the West of Scotland. How it managed to get uni at the start, instead of at the end like the rest of the polytechnics I'll never know!

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mortonjag 2010-01-20 16:13:17
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 20 2010, 01:59 PM) [snapback]699230[/snapback]
Yes, it's me. You're banned. mad.gif

Why thank you kind Sir.

Why was there no official announcement of your almighty surge in status? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 16:22:33
QUOTE(Savo @ Jan 20 2010, 02:52 PM) [snapback]699273[/snapback]
Greacen's was a blatant booking, he can have no complaints whatsoever. He was 'done' in a dangerous area of the park and knew exactly what he was doing. It was a good foul to give away in the situation and he deserved his yellow card.

I also think you're being a bit selective when it comes to Crosas. Peter had a right good nibble at him just after the ball went in the first half and it went unpunished, then in the second half Jenkins went through him late just on the half way line and got away with a talking to. So it's not all one-sided like you are portraying it.

Samaras got off lightly though for the handball and then the foul on Jenkins.

For the most part I thought Thomson did ok. Unlike most refs he is always up with the play as evidenced by the Samaras goal (though as I said, it should have been a booking). He also seems to command the respect of both sets of players.

Though he does have the occasional lapse when he can't keep up with a perfectly good (Templeman) goal, allows himself to be bullied into reversing his decision despite his linesman's contrary advice, hasn't the baws to hold his hands up later and admit the mistake, and is supported by disappearing video evidence courtesy of a Hamilton weasel on the Refs' committee, and the Morton hating Herr Scmidt.

Now he might be excused that trivial lapse until you add the fact that he's a Pishley lawyer! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 16:25:12
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 20 2010, 02:13 PM) [snapback]699244[/snapback]
What an utter pr1ck that man is. Bottled out of any decision against Celtic, including a reasonably good penalty claim when Wake was barged over, and also an incident when someone seemed to grab Jimbo (I think it was him anyway) in the area and spin him round on to the ground when the ball was still in play. You just knew that most refs would have given these decisions had they been at the other end, but Thomson in particular is gutless, as shown by his collapse at Hamilton when put under pressure by their bench.

Why was Samaras not booked for deliberate handball when he put the ball in the net with his hand? Yet Macfarlane was booked for what was arguably just shielding the ball out but given as obstruction (possibly it was obstruction actually, but a booking for that?).

Thomson is a disgrace. How does he get to be classified as a top referee? Or even as a referee full stop for that matter. Tiny Wharton must be birling in his grave. And the OF bias due to weak and spineless refs continues. Had we been winning, no doubt there would have been about 20 minutes of injury time.

FTOF.

Craig Thomson is a jobby.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 16:37:52
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 20 2010, 02:12 PM) [snapback]699242[/snapback]
I agree that the highlights were unfair (not showing the penalty claim or Wake's chance after Weatherson's backheel) but it's absolutely right to say that Celtic didn't get out of second gear. That's why I'm disappointed with Morton's performance. Obviously I don't expect to beat Celtic, but I'd like it if we made them work for it, and we didn't at all. They didn't get out of second gear because they didn't have to. As soon as they scored it was game over and they knew they'd won.



QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 20 2010, 02:27 PM) [snapback]699256[/snapback]
Why do we get so many apologists on here for the biased media? They don't report on a game - they report on Celtic and Rangers. That's all they are interested in.

Possibly because the stuffing has been knocked out of the Morton support Alibi. We are utterly fragmented and have no belief left. It's now perfectly OK (if not desirable) to accept that Morton are only entitled to expect second best, and those who dare to mention the SPL and our failure to get there are systematically bullied by weak kneed yellow bellied creeps who still live in the days of 'Save the Ton', worship the immaculate Trust, and think that that doddery old fud Rae is some irreplaceable lucky charm. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 16:42:16
QUOTE(tontasticstu @ Jan 20 2010, 04:13 PM) [snapback]699329[/snapback]
People boo him because of their bigoted anti-Irish attitudes.

I don't personally boo him at all, but I do think he looks a bit brain damaged.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 16:44:58
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 20 2010, 02:27 PM) [snapback]699255[/snapback]
Jesus wept. The limiting step is not defined by the crowd, but possibly by the number of tickets the sellers could physically get rid of (but they had more sellers on last night than usual) - so therefore the limiting step is the ****ing demand to buy them.

Unless of course some of you are insinuating that someone at Cappielow (either the sellers or the club) didn't hand in/declare all of the money raised which, given the recent exposure of the Trust issue AND the fact that at least two of the ticket sellers are members of this board (and therefore had a good feel for what was raised) would be just plain dumb.

To be sure I spoke to one of the ticket sellers about ten minutes ago, and his exact words were "it was busier, but hardly any Celtic fans were buying tickets, and half of the Morton crowd didn't know what the 50/50 was, so about double seems right".

His implication being that Celtic supporters are miserable s***es and Morton had a lot of fairweather fans for the game.

TonInDublin

ps stats don't work in this example, more likely have a read at The Goal by Eliyahu Goldratt, and get a grip on The Theory Of Constraints
edited for spelling only

Was he there last night too? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 19:33:06
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 20 2010, 02:19 PM) [snapback]699248[/snapback]
It alters the relevance.

Monti should have been on.

It did NOT alter the relevance - nor does your suggestion in any way contradict the point I made which was to disagree that Graham should have been the choice! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 19:43:05

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 20 2010, 06:15 PM) [snapback]699393[/snapback]
Variances my dear doctor. Many differing factors rather than point blank "there was x amount more people there so x amount more tickets will have been sold".

As always you miss the point and jump to conclusions, you semi-literate clot. Don't try to tell me about the concept of something being multifactorial, and NEVER question my logic.

I merely agreed with the original poster that it is logical to ask the question. That you may think otherwise is exactly what I'd have predicted.

You are only bright enough to be a danger to yourself. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 20:49:42
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 20 2010, 08:15 PM) [snapback]699447[/snapback]
But you don't ask questions. You prattle about on here instead. And I am going to pull you up on it, that I agree, is predictable.

Can you accept the reasons given are possible then?

Which reasons for what and given by whom, dwarf? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 20:53:30
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 20 2010, 08:18 PM) [snapback]699449[/snapback]
I thought it was so those holding it could read it ph34r.gif

More chance of that than of understanding your 'English'! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 20:57:32
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Jan 20 2010, 07:00 PM) [snapback]699418[/snapback]
must remember to tune in to Rab C Nesbit, always put me in mind of Pie Hut for sone strange reason as did Nachonovoking remind me of WEE BURNEY blink.gif rolleyes.gif unsure.gif laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2010-01-20 20:59:24 The farce that is Scottish politics is eclipsed by the stupidity of those who take it seriously! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 21:00:41
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 20 2010, 08:35 PM) [snapback]699453[/snapback]
Mother of Rufus and Martha and all-round musician's musician has died.
I worked on a couple of her albums years ago when Rykodisc were behind here.

Limpwristdependent obituary

Should our thoughts be with the family if we've never heard of her Peter? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 21:02:24
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 20 2010, 04:36 PM) [snapback]699347[/snapback]
There was a thread about it but I deleted it.

I believe you are lying. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 21:03:41
QUOTE(.:BrIDo:. @ Jan 20 2010, 08:50 PM) [snapback]699457[/snapback]
Probably because they've half expected that sooner or later someone would be coming in for him.

And Thornton, Caldwell might not be the greatest of defenders but he's still a decent one.

Is he not that big Donkey that was cheatin' on his missus? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 21:07:24
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 20 2010, 08:58 PM) [snapback]699461[/snapback]
Here's some advice from a 'friend' Douglas. I know you find this really funny but take it from me, it's not. It hasn't been for quite some time. If I was you I'd drop it.

It gives me immense pleasure not to amuse you Peter!

Mind you, in the improbable event that you are being serious, I suggest you approach the illiterate dwarf and ask it to stop its pesterations of this educated gentlemen. As you and your boyfriend are well aware, it takes two to tango. smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 21:12:05
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 20 2010, 09:08 PM) [snapback]699467[/snapback]
FFS, I can't believe the rubbish some of you "new men" come out with. Part of the fun of watching football is hurling abuse at the opposition, and the more humorous the better as far as I'm concerned. All this "Celtic's supporters were making more noise" is just plain incorrect because where I was standing there was a fair bit of noise including singing and chanting and when that happened you couldnae hear the Sellick sing - couldnae hear a f**king thing actually. Maybe the problem is that too many people nowadays are reluctant to let themselves go a bit and actually make any noise and so they don't join in. All this political correctness, don't offend anyone stuff is also destroying the atmosphere. I'm not saying you need to use foul and abusive language or racist insults, but calling McGeady a dirty wee traitor seems to me to be merely a parody of what he actually is. If it puts him off his game (which I doubt) then great. The OF are based largely on bigotry so I hardly think expressing our dislike of them and all they stand for is in any way unacceptable.

If you don't like it, go and watch snooker or golf.

YIP - I'm sure you have something there. There is nothing more sickening than whited sepulchres lecturing their betters on bigotry and sectarianism. Political correctness is unnatural. Politeness is different.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 21:13:56
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 20 2010, 09:10 PM) [snapback]699471[/snapback]
You need some musical education Douglas. See Edwards, he'll sort you out.

Whacko's been a bit quiet. Perhaps his haemorrhoids are down again.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 21:15:37
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 20 2010, 09:14 PM) [snapback]699476[/snapback]
Alibi drove 100 miles back to Dumfries after the game, so no, definitely not drunk.

Neilly Mac commit a foul? No, impossible.

Hmm! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 21:16:55
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 20 2010, 09:14 PM) [snapback]699475[/snapback]
As usual, you are a waste of a good computer keyboard.

Not like you to dodge a question ya wee turd!
mortonjag 2010-01-20 21:20:01
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 20 2010, 09:09 PM) [snapback]699470[/snapback]
It was only advice, obviously you can choose to ignore it. rolleyes.gif

You misunderstood. The dwarf started it! angel.gif

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 20 2010, 09:15 PM) [snapback]699477[/snapback]
Something you lack, ya old fud smile.gif

Far from it, dwarf. Mortonjag is the epitome of politeness, as all who have met him will happily confirm - you noisome little toad.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 21:23:32
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 20 2010, 03:34 PM) [snapback]699297[/snapback]
I for one am glad that BBC Scotland didn't give us a pat on the head for being plucky but completely lacking in attacking threat.

I'm glad you've cleared up the confusion.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 21:24:29
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 20 2010, 09:22 PM) [snapback]699484[/snapback]
I thought you would be able to comprehend everything said within the thread. Or has all that rattling gotten to your brain? smile.gif

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mortonjag 2010-01-20 21:26:12
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 20 2010, 09:20 PM) [snapback]699482[/snapback]
Ah, so internet hardman. Perfectly normal for a retired GP unsure.gif

Another quite incomprehensible statement! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 21:27:38
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 20 2010, 09:26 PM) [snapback]699487[/snapback]
One must question, what the hell did you have to edit?!

It's only obligatory in your sweet and empty little head son.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 21:29:38
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 20 2010, 09:12 PM) [snapback]699472[/snapback]
I think McGeady needs a move to a big team to improve his game. Clearly he has potential but it won't be tapped as long as he remains at Celtic.

I agree that he does look as if the midwife dropped him on his head at birth. From the tenth floor of the hospital.

Appearances can be deceptive. Could be that he had a natural birth and is just a thick wee c*nt.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 21:36:53
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 20 2010, 09:34 PM) [snapback]699491[/snapback]
Same as you in regards every question you have ever put on here smile.gif

The child is father of the man.

Wordsworth.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 21:37:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 20 2010, 09:35 PM) [snapback]699492[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2010-01-20 21:44:48
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Jan 20 2010, 07:26 PM) [snapback]699429[/snapback]
Firstly I would like to say how much I enjoyed last night despite the result as this was to be the first time I have been at a Morton Celtic match with my older brother( A TIM ).Along with the other 8 we took along on the night all were very much impressed with the whole atmosphere of the night in general.

I would also like to say thanks to Andy Morrison for introducing me to a certain Joe Caven. Joe was an ex player who I never had the opertunity to see due to ageism. Joe was the man whom set up many of Alan Mcgraws goals.
The reason I thank BIG ANDY is I got to shake the hand of one of Mortons unsung heros of that era.It want't the meeting of the gent and his past that caught my attention,it was how the gent was proudly wearing his Ton scarf after all these years and the pride he had in showing me his Photo album of his playing days, the guy was proud of his achievements and the fact he not only played for Morton he was a true supporter.Not Many modern day players can boast of these rights.

On a funny note we all pished ourself laughing when one of my party asked him did he play along side ANDY RITCHIE

Thanks again Andy and as I said I went straight for my Morton Greats when I got in the door

OH and next time buy yer ain chips laugh.gif

He was no slouch at scoring himself. Joe was the target man, but Allan would often return the compliment. A formidable pairing up front, aided and abetted by a proper pair of wingers in Adamson and Wilson and a clever playmaking inside forward in Stevenson. Our defence in those days was OK but not brilliant but it didn't really matter!

Happy memories.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 21:47:33
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 20 2010, 09:39 PM) [snapback]699496[/snapback]
And yet again, you come on trying to make a point and I steer you right away from it.

C'mon Rattler, it's too easy smile.gif

Now get to bed, you'll have nightmares if you stay awake past 10 2 nights in a row!

My heart leaps up when I behold a rainbow in the sky.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 21:50:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 20 2010, 09:45 PM) [snapback]699503[/snapback]
Wot is the established medical procedure for unbiased data collection ?

Frozen section.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 21:55:15
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Jan 20 2010, 09:49 PM) [snapback]699506[/snapback]
PMs for this nonsense


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QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 20 2010, 09:50 PM) [snapback]699510[/snapback]
Or at the very least a gay chat room. blink.gif

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mortonjag 2010-01-20 21:57:43
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Jan 20 2010, 09:52 PM) [snapback]699512[/snapback]
puggs you have an obsession with this mj character i think it is time to retire from your crusade against him

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mortonjag 2010-01-20 22:00:31
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 20 2010, 09:59 PM) [snapback]699521[/snapback]
Yes, MJ, a proper pair of wingers.

I think Caven had played in England before he came to Cappielow.

Didn't he score 26 goals in that season ?

I can't recall. McGraw's total was just so phenomenal that it made Joe's look relatively insignificant.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 22:02:00
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 20 2010, 09:59 PM) [snapback]699523[/snapback]
Once he lets me out his cellar!

Belinda smiled and all the world was gay.


Alexander Pope.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 22:06:39 We were in the stand, and it became apparent that there were two Cellic supporters to our right. They were very polite and civilised but we spat on them several times just so that they'd understand what it's like to be in the minority for once.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 22:08:14
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Jan 20 2010, 09:50 PM) [snapback]699509[/snapback]
Following on from the post in the normal forum, some daily facts:

1.
If you place your thumb over your "japs eye" at the point of ejaculation, your testicles will swell to three times their normal size. FACT!

BAWS! laugh.gif

Though the left testis normally hangs lower than the right.

FACT! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 22:11:25
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 20 2010, 10:08 PM) [snapback]699536[/snapback]
Expectorate, MJ, expectorate.

A bit of culture please.

Sputum culture?
mortonjag 2010-01-20 22:12:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 20 2010, 10:11 PM) [snapback]699538[/snapback]
yes, 58 out of 135 was quite a contribution.

Especially the one at Ibrox.

Unforgettable. I still remember the pressure followed by the unbounded joy!
mortonjag 2010-01-20 22:14:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 20 2010, 10:12 PM) [snapback]699540[/snapback]
I was expecting that.

You gave me the feed you naughty boy! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 22:43:18
QUOTE(Flyerton @ Jan 20 2010, 10:20 PM) [snapback]699546[/snapback]
Are Rangers your second team? unsure.gif

Pollok Juniors! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 22:45:57
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 20 2010, 10:32 PM) [snapback]699550[/snapback]
I'm not seeing any apologists, I'm seeing people stating their opinions.
Why did you quote my post, considering it has nothing do with everything you've said there?

Thought you needed the publicity! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 22:48:34
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 20 2010, 10:34 PM) [snapback]699552[/snapback]
Posh Spice is a slapper
and she's got a shaven haven
and when she's shagging beckam
she thinks of wee joe caven
that went down a treat with Joe in the Keith Social Club

Posh Spice is a slapper
She's got a mingin' phanny
And when she's shaggin' Beckam
She thinks of wee Phil Cannie.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 22:52:43
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 20 2010, 10:35 PM) [snapback]699554[/snapback]
Nope, though I'm busy with piles in Govanhill. They're going down 25 metres.

When will the erection be achieved?
mortonjag 2010-01-20 22:55:00
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jan 20 2010, 10:50 PM) [snapback]699562[/snapback]
No no no, you obviously weren't there...

Posh Spice is a slapper
She's got a scabby fanny
And when she's shaggin' Beckam
She thinks of Phillip Cannie.

Posh Spice is a slapper
Her punters call her Sally
And when she's shaggin' Beckam
She thinks of InverAlly.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 23:01:20
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 20 2010, 10:53 PM) [snapback]699568[/snapback]
Aye so did ye report anybody from the vast numbers of those sellick fans singing rebel songs. noooo. When somebody counter acts with the same Tune as a rangers song then you boohoo?
You have a fascination for all things Irish and in fact like that sad fecker mcgeady you clearly wish you were Irish. It is just a over romaticised stereotype chris. Just concentrate on your own countrymen and team. You just come across as a wannabee true irishman. I can see you jumping around yer house 24hrs a day to the pogues and the Dubliners shouting begorrha and talking in a cringeworthy fake Dublin accent and tracing yer great great grannys next door neighbours cousins uncle dog to see if you are related.

Careful Guv - here comes the shillelagh! [attachment=6359:hit.gif]
mortonjag 2010-01-20 23:04:14
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Jan 20 2010, 11:02 PM) [snapback]699575[/snapback]
Posh Spice is a slapper
shes got a big brown ring
And when she's shaggin' Beckam
She thinks of Nachonovoking

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Posh Spice is a slapper
A dirty mingin' slut
And when she's shaggin Beckam
She thinks of wee Piehutt.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 23:08:33 You have fans!
mortonjag 2010-01-20 23:13:23
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Jan 20 2010, 11:09 PM) [snapback]699579[/snapback]
Posh Spice is a slapper
wae a face of an auld bag
And when she's shaggin' Beckam
She thinks of mortonjag laugh.gif

Posh Spice is a slapper
She only costs two bob
And when she's shaggin Beckam
She dreams of Bawheid's knob.
mortonjag 2010-01-20 23:17:17
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Jan 20 2010, 11:13 PM) [snapback]699580[/snapback]
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what planet are you on? did you want me to go '' steward, evict that man in the dublin end with the celtic top on''. besides that i couldnt make a song out from celtic fans other than one rendition of can you hear the morton sing and discoland. however when an element of the morton support decides to sing celtic boys club paedophiles, i dont think that accomplishes anything, it is embarrassig, i see no reason as to why a morton supporter would sing it unless he is a closet currant bun so it was quite rightly booed. and no i dont think i am irish at all.

Old mother Hubbard
Went to the cupboard
To get her poor Hundog a bone
But when she got there
The cupboard was bare
And so the poor doggy sang

The famine's not over. wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-20 23:26:58
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Jan 20 2010, 11:18 PM) [snapback]699584[/snapback]
Posh Spice is a slapper
She's got a clit like toast
And when she's shaggin' Beckam
She thinks of ****in ghost

Ghost would give her the willies.
mortonjag 2010-01-21 07:20:48
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jan 21 2010, 02:25 AM) [snapback]699624[/snapback]
think you dropped something there davie.
oh, its a name:)

Peter never name drops - he merely mentions folk in order to give their careers a fillip. In that respect he's something of a minor celebrity big brother.
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mortonjag 2010-01-21 07:28:31
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 20 2010, 02:19 PM) [snapback]699248[/snapback]
It alters the relevance.

Monti should have been on.

That would have made sense. Graham did not.

QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 21 2010, 01:06 AM) [snapback]699617[/snapback]
It's not his fault he can't replace McAlister if Grady never has the balls to even sub McAlister and give Monti a chance to show what he can do on the left.

I'm assuming that you mean as an attacking left sided player /left winger. I've been confused by Monti. There is clearly ability, yet I've never seen him play consistently throughout a match. He also tends to pull out of tackles - a bit like Midge used to do. There's no great harm in that if he's going to develop as an unquestioned attacker. Those who believe he can play at full back probably still think Spoonsy should do the same!
mortonjag 2010-01-21 07:40:43
QUOTE(king_bob @ Jan 21 2010, 07:27 AM) [snapback]699635[/snapback]
Group of us were behind the goal (Sinclair Street) and in front of us 3 older guys (pretty drunk) were celtic fans, they kept shouting along the lines of "come on celtic" - When they scored as well they cheered. Think it is shocking that they come into the home end to cheer. Maybe they couldnt get a ticket for the away end but come on surely you would just keep it quiet...never know someone could of started something which may have ended up in a brawl.

There was no official segregation when the Ton were in the old Premier league. I remember the first game against the OF - it just happened not to be the ones from the piggery. I was a young teenager and my only football experiences up till then had been at Cappielow. I will never forget the sight of urine FLOWING down the WDE terracing and vividly remember hearing relative kids singing 'Up to the knees in f*nian blood'. Those kids will now be in their mid fifties and will have children and grandchildren doing the same.

The toilet facilities may have changed but the SH*T minority on both sides of the OF divide doesn't want to.
mortonjag 2010-01-21 07:48:17
QUOTE(londonref @ Jan 21 2010, 12:02 AM) [snapback]699601[/snapback]
It was actually his assistant at the Hamilton game who got bullied and changed his mind. The ref then was obliged to go with this view. TV evidence subsequently proved them right. Though the bullying should have been taken up by the SFA. ph34r.gif

Wrong - the young assistant ref. told Thomson that he had not had an unobstructed view.

QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 21 2010, 01:38 AM) [snapback]699620[/snapback]
No it didn't, as TV evidence was covered up by Hamilton and never made available. I wonder why?

Craig Thomson's handling of every Morton game he's had is the perfect example of why referees should have to declare what team they support and be kept away from games affecting that team and their rivals. He's a former Love Street season ticket holder and it usually shows when he's doing a Morton game. I thought all the bookings for Morton players last night were fair enough, but Samaras should have been booked for the handball, and every 50/50 was going Celtic's way. All that said, it didn't have an impact on the result as Celtic were comfortable all the way so it was irrelevant last night.

Indeed. Scott Struthers the Hamilton Secretary was on the referees committee. The TV evidence was 'impounded'. Given that it was NOT used to vindicate Thomson we can conclude that he was wrong. Gordon Smith (lately revealed as anti-Morton) took months and two reminders before he eventually answered my query stating that the SFA had concluded that Thomson had acted correctly BUT that the incident would be used for referee training purposes (to improve communication between referees and their assistants).

Make of that what you will.

It was a goal and Thomson is a Pishley keech, a liar, and a cheat. ph34r.gif

mortonjag 2010-01-21 08:02:39 Posh Spice is a slapper
The filthiest of wimmin
And when she's shaggin Beckam
She thinks of big Dom Shimmin
mortonjag 2010-01-21 08:04:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 18 2010, 10:54 PM) [snapback]698194[/snapback]
Perhaps that doyen of grammar, MJ, could translate.

Is Venus from overseas ?

Venus is light years away. He really needs to come down to earth.
mortonjag 2010-01-21 08:06:16
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 21 2010, 07:53 AM) [snapback]699643[/snapback]
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Are you using hexadecimal arithmetic ?

Sweet sixteen and only ever been kissed by my Mummy! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-21 08:09:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 21 2010, 08:07 AM) [snapback]699649[/snapback]
Posh Spice is a slapper
A rather ready lay
And when she's shaggin Beckham
She thinks of ......

Goin' gay? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-21 08:11:37
QUOTE(marko @ Jan 21 2010, 02:54 AM) [snapback]699625[/snapback]
Was told off my boys mate ( who was in the wde ) that the scum were giving the finger to the ball boys

I thought the flares and green and white smoke looked great - something that we should try v the scum or in important games it gets everyone going to the IRH.

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mortonjag 2010-01-21 08:20:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 21 2010, 08:12 AM) [snapback]699652[/snapback]
IIRC the Ton were promoted to the Premier League in 1978.

And MJ remembers the 1940s.

1978 - 1948 = young teenager.

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Thank you for the 1948, Newt. it's nice to have been made younger than I am.!

Anyway, I've got mixed up obviously. I certainly saw us play the Hunce at Cappielow when I was in my teens and when I witnessed what I described in the previous post. Was it the old First Division?

This may be used as a test - turned to universal advantage if you will. Mortonjag has made a mistake. Will the poison dwarf finally grow up or will another dart be thrown. Many are tiring of our somewhat unilateral jousting, but the little sod doesn't know when to stop! angel.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-21 08:22:46
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 21 2010, 08:17 AM) [snapback]699654[/snapback]
Posh Spice is a slapper
There can be no ifs or buts
And when she's shaggin Beckham
She thinks of Duncan Donuts.

Posh Spice is a slapper
She has a worn out crack
And when she's shaggin' Beckam
She thinks of a Big Mac.
mortonjag 2010-01-21 09:32:59
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Jan 21 2010, 09:19 AM) [snapback]699664[/snapback]
The Morton (4) 3 Celtic 3 match was in the old First Division in the 1964/65 season and I certainly watched it from the terracing behind the goal at the Wee Dublin End. The ground was packed and there was no segregation. I don't remember there being much trouble and in spite of the usual foul mouthed clowns, there was also a lot of fairly good natured banter.

I can't remember the fixture against Rangers.

Thanks Toon. You must be VERY old.
mortonjag 2010-01-21 09:34:31
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 21 2010, 08:51 AM) [snapback]699661[/snapback]
I used to drop names all the time until David Bowie told me I shouldn't.

..and asked you to drop your drawers instead. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-21 09:35:48
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Jan 21 2010, 08:19 AM) [snapback]699655[/snapback]
First thought on my mind - I have another two in the next fortnight. sad.gif

You should have used a condom.
mortonjag 2010-01-21 09:43:58 I'll just be (hopefully) enjoying the football, thankful that I won't have the pain of the usual Media hype about Scotland's chances.
mortonjag 2010-01-21 10:30:28
QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Jan 21 2010, 09:52 AM) [snapback]699678[/snapback]
I happen to know someone who's not unfamiliar with the goings on at Ibrox. I asked him if he knew Mr Donald and what his opinion of him was. He said he did and he described him to me "as a bit of a wide boy". I had no reason to doubt his estimation of the man. But being me I decided to form my own opinion. Let me assure you that in the dealings I had with Mr Donald at Cappielow nothing ever appeared as it seemed. He came across to me as Walter Mitty character and it became increasingly hard to figure out how much of what he told me was true and what was wishful thinking.
I don't know if he's a multi millionaire or not, what I do know is that there was little evidence of it. He may indeed be a paper millionaire but that can all change with a dip in the stock market and not all paper millionaires have free access to the money they reportedly have.
What I can confirm is that he does owe Morton Football Club £20k and that is a matter of public record that even he would not dispute.

It's good to have you talking openly Stuart.

I know more than one person who is acquainted personally with the Rae family, and the latter have been described as 'slippery characters'! Being me I always form my own opinions on the basis of evidence. Many goings on at Cappielow have persuaded me that Mr Rae can be 'difficult' to deal with. In particular his handling of the 'Stan Webster' situation (I have all the relevant emails) convinced me that he is capable of twisting matters to his own advantage.

As for Mr Donald, I cannot dispute your perception of events. I doubt if you would be immature enough to let the fact that he wasn't 'into' the Trust colour your thinking. I was informed that he funded the purchase of the St Mirren stand, the floodlights, and the Austria trip, though I have little doubt that Stuart Gilmour may have invoiced the Club.

I have said repeatedly that Mr Donald's version of events is not available in the public realm. That, in my book at least, leaves the matter very one sided.
mortonjag 2010-01-21 10:35:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 21 2010, 09:47 AM) [snapback]699676[/snapback]
Or perhaps two ?

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mortonjag 2010-01-21 10:43:59
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 21 2010, 10:00 AM) [snapback]699681[/snapback]
I'm just hoping Mr Rae is going to allow James Grady to bring in the players he needs. Reading the Chairman's "Transfer Window" article in the programme I'm a little concerned he's dropping hints on a shortage of funds.

He's presenting it as a view of the current situation in Scottish Football in general, but with obvious references to his own situation at Cappielow, which seems designed to stop us getting our hopes up. Either that or he's just letting us know how grateful we should be to have him as our Chairman.

I thought this bit was perhaps more directed at the Cellic fans just in case they didn't/can't read the Tilly.

'I can see many First Division Clubs becoming part-time within the next year or so as balancing the books now is impossible unless one has a benefactor who is willing to pick up the tab every year'.

Benefaction: the art of doing good.

Is that really the same as having to dig yourself out of your self made hole? unsure.gif

mortonjag 2010-01-21 10:48:51
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Jan 21 2010, 10:46 AM) [snapback]699689[/snapback]
Looked like a hand to me at the time, so I wasn't overly fussed.

Although it IS funny that people keep greetin' about it.

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Now I KNOW you're a f*ckin' ball boy at New Douglas Park! mad.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-21 11:32:25
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 21 2010, 11:27 AM) [snapback]699700[/snapback]
What 'usual media hype' would that be, we haven't qualified for the finals of the WC or EC for 12 years.

And even when we did qualify regularly for these finals, I can't remember the Scottish press hyping up our chances in any tournament since the debacle of Argentina in '78. That reality check taught the Scottish fans and press a harsh lesson I don't think we'll ever forget. If anything I think we've gone to the other extreme and talk the team down too much.

Thank you for telling me what I already know.

To answer your question.

The usual Media hype about Scotland's chances.

If you still have difficulty, by all means P.M. Jaggy for a lesson in English comprehension. wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-21 11:34:07
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jan 21 2010, 10:58 AM) [snapback]699695[/snapback]
or maybe he's a teacher?

Teachers are sterile?
mortonjag 2010-01-21 11:35:40
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Jan 21 2010, 11:03 AM) [snapback]699697[/snapback]
Nah, I was the camera man.

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mortonjag 2010-01-21 11:41:06
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 21 2010, 11:17 AM) [snapback]699699[/snapback]
I don't really see what you mean there MJ. As far as I could see his intentions were the same as ours, to get Morton from the 3rd division back to where we belong as quickly as possible. Where we belong is open to debate but I think it's either challenging at the top of the First Division or playing in the SPL.

The point is, whether or not we agree how Mr Rae has gone about his 5 Year Plan, he's definitely backed up his intentions with the funding required to acheive it. He's also replaced Managers pretty quickly when it appeared the plan was going off the rails.

Plenty of Club's have had similar plans and funded them and have not managed to progress up the divisions. Some of us are critical of taking longer than expected to reach our target, but perhaps we should remember we have actually moved up the divisions, albiet slower than we all hoped for.

I was thinking Mr Rae meant the time he has spent funding Morton shouldn't be overlooked, plus the fact he is still trying to move us forward despite the current state of Scottish Football.

That's a fundamental flaw in your argument I reckon. He didn't even WANT JM to go when he should have walked after the Peterhead farce. That is but one example of Rae's crass stupidity and unwillingness to take advice or accept reality. His own mismanagement of his own money is the reason for the evident failure to progress.

That is why I question the term benefactor. This is NOT a personal attack on Douglas Rae who cannot help being what he is. It's just the way it seems to be.
mortonjag 2010-01-21 11:44:34
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 21 2010, 11:40 AM) [snapback]699709[/snapback]
I thought it was a bit off to have the camera gantry where it was right at the front of the cowshed, taking up seating space and ruining the view. We usually stand right on the half way line near the front but that was out the question on Tuesday. What was wrong with giving them a vantage point right up the back? also spolied the atmosphere as it broke up the crowd and you need a critical mass (no pun intended...) before you get much singing and chanting.

The highlights made it all worthwhile ---if you are a Cellic fan! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-21 11:46:10
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 19 2010, 12:28 PM) [snapback]698324[/snapback]
What a complete waste of bandwidth. Not my mention my time reading this pish. Mind you when I see a thread started by Newton I should know better by now.

What a silly and arrogant statement!
mortonjag 2010-01-21 11:57:47
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 21 2010, 11:56 AM) [snapback]699716[/snapback]
Is that not a bit like saying if one of my employees gets lifted for pissing up a close, I should be ashamed?

NO.
mortonjag 2010-01-21 11:59:55
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 21 2010, 11:48 AM) [snapback]699715[/snapback]
I thought it was Brian Wilson

W. Wordsworth



MY heart leaps up when I behold
A rainbow in the sky:
So was it when my life began,
So is it now I am a man,
So be it when I shall grow old
Or let me die!
The child is father of the man:
And I could wish my days to be
Bound each to each by natural piety.
mortonjag 2010-01-21 12:23:57
QUOTE(Flyerton @ Jan 21 2010, 12:15 PM) [snapback]699721[/snapback]
Is that the Scottish or British government?

The Scottish Mental Health Acts are separate as are the Tribunals which are generally perceived to be forward thinking and with which the SCOTTISH government wants to meddle.
mortonjag 2010-01-21 12:25:32
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 21 2010, 12:20 PM) [snapback]699722[/snapback]

I believe Mr Wilson's a wee bit younger than Wordsworth mind!
mortonjag 2010-01-21 12:26:36
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Jan 21 2010, 12:10 PM) [snapback]699719[/snapback]
I am, got the bus pass but not the pension !

You really ARE a man then! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-21 12:29:15
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jan 21 2010, 12:23 PM) [snapback]699724[/snapback]
There's not really that much difference from your argument and mine's. I'm just saying I know Mr Rae's made mistakes but his 5 year plan and willingness to back it with his own money were genuinely for the benefit of Morton. When JM did leave Mr Rae eventually admitted it was for the best. Again I think he liked what JM was trying to do and initially believed he could take Morton further. With DI it became clear Mr Rae was unhappy with the quaility of football like most Ton fans.

I think you can argue that to date he's not been as effective a benefactor as he'd like to be, and he may even agree with you, but it's not for the want of trying. If he has made mistakes he's been the one who's had to shell out to rectify them, so I don't really see how you can blame him for that.

A Partick Thistle fan on the previous post makes the point that there are several other clubs with similar aspirations to ourselves, within a system which makes it notoriously difficult to achieve promotion. I think we need to remember that football's not a business where if everything is mapped out and backed by investment, that success will automatically follow.

They say football's a simple game, but putting a successful team on the park is not as many clubs have found out.
I don't think our Chairman's doing his best, and doing it not too badly.

Couldn't agree more! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-21 12:30:44
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jan 21 2010, 12:24 PM) [snapback]699726[/snapback]
Contractual agreement between SFA and the BBC that all member Clubs provide unfettered access for all Active Nation Cup Ties - simples. smile.gif

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You're a lawyer Smiffy. Whoever would have believed it? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-21 12:44:59
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Jan 21 2010, 12:29 PM) [snapback]699731[/snapback]
I was at the game and that is absolute rubbish. The assistant referee according to the "official" verdict said that he did not see anything wrong with the goal and maintained that position.

Thomson was bullied by Halliwell and Neill (both of whom laid hands on him) into going over to the group of players surrounding the linesman. I was right next to the incident in the stand with a friend who watches Hamilton and who is an ex professional footballer. He and I both thought that Thomson was going to caution and perhaps send off some of the Hamilton players.He was astonished at the outcome and said that it was the worst incident of its kind that he could ever recall.

The decision was Thomson's alone and no referee is ever obliged to go with a linesman's or assistant referee's view it is the referee who is the final arbiter and he can ignore or over-rule any "assistance" he is offered. As for the television evidence, I just don't believe that there was any. The matter raged on for some time and if there had been any it would have turned up somewhere.

Thomson's behaviour was a disgrace and no post match propoganda can change that.

The fact that it cost us a valuable point and could have doomed us to the second division appears to go right over the heads of those who are happy to forget the incident.

The fact that Thomson could have come clean with the SFA and allowed them to take whatever action they deemed appropriate, but failed to do so, is reprehensible, but of course Thomson had his reputation to protect, and if I recall correctly, was soon to be off to enjoy the junketry of the European competitions.

The fact that Scott Struthers was the Hamilton Club secretary while sitting on the referees committes also casts doubt on the handling of the matter, not least on the disappearing TV evidence.

As for Gordon Smith -a paper dragon on £160,000 p.a. He is indeed a SUPERPOUFFE.

It WAS a disgrace, and should not be forgotten just because a few wimps say so.
mortonjag 2010-01-21 12:50:56
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 21 2010, 12:46 PM) [snapback]699740[/snapback]
Particularly at heart.

That comment should get you band.
mortonjag 2010-01-21 13:03:34
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 21 2010, 12:59 PM) [snapback]699744[/snapback]
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Exceptional. Funniest thing you've posted in a long, long time. Did you manage to keep your face straight as you typed it?
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Yes.
mortonjag 2010-01-21 13:06:53
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 21 2010, 01:02 PM) [snapback]699745[/snapback]
I guess I just wasn't made for these times.

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mortonjag 2010-01-21 13:59:24
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 21 2010, 01:32 PM) [snapback]699753[/snapback]
He's not a ref that I like, but I thought he had a decent game on Tuesday.

Other than one debatable offside that should've been given by the standside linesman (OOPS, assistant referee!) the three officials were all pretty good I thought.

He is a competent referee and clearly a competent liar too!
mortonjag 2010-01-21 14:02:30
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jan 21 2010, 01:30 PM) [snapback]699752[/snapback]
Seriously don't think there is a problem with Neil. He is a limited player, but so is Paartalu.

I am pretty happy with our midfield. Ok, there should be a decision to make whether we use a holding midfield player in each game, but if we do then Nelly is it when fit.

Obviously with Tidser we may have a decision to make on Saturday, but I think McFarlane will play.

If Tidser is left footed I'd be hopeful he could play left side, with Jimbo right and Nelly and Jenks in the centre. Obviously Grady has hinted about him playing in the centre, but ideally we have to get our best players on the park.

imo Finlayson is the weak link in the midfield. I reckon he is a utility full back at best... he is not an attacking option and if we want to progress we cannot have someone like him playing every game. He's had a reasonable season, but hopefully if he's out of contract he can be replaced in the summer.

Nothing like hyperbole to make the point! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-21 14:03:55
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Jan 21 2010, 01:57 PM) [snapback]699763[/snapback]
How do you know Doc? You tried it? rolleyes.gif

Aye but not on myself. His baws bust.
mortonjag 2010-01-21 14:05:28
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 21 2010, 01:43 PM) [snapback]699756[/snapback]
I'll watch it tonight and give it a chance, but that one-off they did wasn't that funny and a bit TOO near the knuckle - Jamesie Cotter on a website shouting to Ella "Are there two Fs in 'sphincter'?" made me cringe.

Still, whether the script is good or bad Gregor Fisher will put in the usual great performance as Rab. He's a great comic actor.

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mortonjag 2010-01-21 14:07:37
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 21 2010, 01:57 PM) [snapback]699766[/snapback]
okay, you can have moronjag - will that do?
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mortonjag 2010-01-21 14:08:58
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 21 2010, 02:07 PM) [snapback]699773[/snapback]
Yes, but that doesn't mean they have to set up blocking everyone else's view. Up the back in not particularly fettered (if that's actually a real word...)

It is, and I agree.
mortonjag 2010-01-21 14:15:18
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 21 2010, 02:12 PM) [snapback]699777[/snapback]
Oh look

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/los...ass-marina-hyde

It seems people are now using the whole "pc gone mad" brigade to get themselves in the paper.
Good call that lad smile.gif

Do you read the Guardian every day?
mortonjag 2010-01-21 14:23:07 What about the sh*ts INSIDE?
mortonjag 2010-01-21 14:57:47
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 21 2010, 02:22 PM) [snapback]699781[/snapback]
If I had not meant the Scottish government I would specifically have said "UK government".

MJ, maybe I am misinterpreting the article but is it not saying that Sturgeon will act on the conclusions of these bodies? That's not meddling. I may be reading the whole article and missing something though.

Why were the 'bodies' created, and by whom?
mortonjag 2010-01-21 14:58:33
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 21 2010, 02:47 PM) [snapback]699790[/snapback]
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We have a date! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-21 14:59:04
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 21 2010, 02:57 PM) [snapback]699793[/snapback]
I thought it had maybe flown the coop to seek political asylum - but there's no better political asylum than its place of employment.......

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mortonjag 2010-01-21 15:03:02
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Jan 21 2010, 03:00 PM) [snapback]699798[/snapback]
Sorry if this has been posted already but ten absolutely amazing misses.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/8471265.stm

F*ck - I was expecting bums and tits. blink.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-21 15:04:50
QUOTE(londonref @ Jan 21 2010, 02:23 PM) [snapback]699783[/snapback]
Is he not also a competent libel lawyer? ph34r.gif

Libel is not his specialty.

Libel can only be proven if the alleged statement is untrue! mad.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-21 15:24:40
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 21 2010, 03:09 PM) [snapback]699805[/snapback]
Oh I daresay he KNOWS a few more than competent libel lawyers.
And there's nothing "alleged" about your statement; it exists and is there for all to see - unless you delete it.

It's a statement, or if you prefer it's an allegation. It's not an "alleged statement" though.

Maybe you should get used to these differences in terminology in preparation for any possible legal proceedings that may follow on from your statement. Or allegation.

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Aye very good Mucky Boy, and what makes you think Jaggy doesn't, or for that matter can't afford them?

I used the term 'alleged' as would be used in court until proven one way or the other. ph34r.gif

I am stating that Thomson lied. He claimed (and it's on record) after the event that he'd originally awarded the goal but had reversed his decision after consulting the linesman. The linesman whom he consulted has confirmed that he told Thomson that he had not had an unobstructed view of the incident.

So - Aye, smarty pants - that makes Thomson a LIAR in my book, and if he wants to sue me for libel, bring the matter on because the whole incestuous farce that is the SFA will come under the spotlight - and of course you'll just look like the daft wee choob you are! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-21 15:29:48
QUOTE(EBu @ Jan 21 2010, 03:26 PM) [snapback]699817[/snapback]
I'd imagine you'd have a few hundred eye witnesses to back you up anyway... wink.gif

Indeed - your signature is very appropriate in this matter!
mortonjag 2010-01-21 17:48:03
QUOTE(Fellow Traveller @ Jan 21 2010, 04:49 PM) [snapback]699863[/snapback]
No chance of you embarassing me. As you say they are PERSONAL therefore only you know about them. That's all I meant
There are no such thing as heid bummers in the Trust. One member one vote democracy rules. Anyone can join, become a board member and replace anyone there. But you already knew that.
If that was the case why was there an issue about another Trust rep replacing me on the Board
.........................................FT

My brother is a member of the Trust and has yet to be asked for his opinion on decision making!

My comment about Rae was tongue in cheek as you very well know.
mortonjag 2010-01-21 18:00:03
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 21 2010, 03:52 PM) [snapback]699838[/snapback]
AAAAHH, when you cast your line upon the waters it's always gratifying to get a bite! laugh.gif

As a matter of interest, why should any impartial observer of the debate choose to automatically believe the linesman rather than the referee? It's a simple case of one man's word against another.

Good to see though that your delusions of grandeur persist - from being nothing more than the most frequent pester, sorry, POSTer, on a small-scale messageboard you're now dreaming of being the very catalyst that brings the SFA to its knees....... aye, very good. Dream on, Captain Mainwaring!! tongue.gif

Don't flatter yourself Mucky Boy!

Your sarcasm will be wasted on the majority of posters. At least Mortonjag had the baws to write to Smith and not to give up until he got an answer albeit a devious and unsatisfactory one.

Am I to assume that your question about the linesman was also 'fishing'. What had he to gain by telling the truth? Very little so far as I can see as I've never heard his name mentioned at first division level or above since that fateful day.

It's gratifying to Mortonjag that a few pathetic fools still attempt to undermine his undoubted intellectual superiority and integrity.

Keep 'casting your line upon the waters'. It's already well wrapped round your neck and it's only a matter of time before you suffer the fate of your predecessors. drink.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-21 18:07:18
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 21 2010, 03:17 PM) [snapback]699813[/snapback]
my lad is named Connor, and a Morton fan at that dry.gif



QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Jan 21 2010, 04:06 PM) [snapback]699845[/snapback]
Everyone just remember that the rules on here stop you
from talking about / speculating about aspects of investigations
that involve current court cases or police investigations.

I should know as the Mods banned me at w/end for mentioning the name of the organisation involved in last Friday's Tele !!!

I TRUST you have recovered from the ordeal.
mortonjag 2010-01-21 18:14:17
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 21 2010, 04:19 PM) [snapback]699852[/snapback]
According to that article the MHTS was set up in 2005. I have no idea who set up this McManus thingy, but i see that the government has still to respond to its findings. To get back to the original point, I can't see why this should be "Nickerless's shame" as you put it. It should be Nickerless' anyway, as there's no s after the possessive apostrophe for words ending in s.

That's a moot point!

Nickerless takes the credit for all innovations she's supposed to have dreamed (would you prefer dreamt?) up. It's always - 'Health Secretary Nickerless Surgeon this, and Health Secretary Nickerless Surgeon that.

You and I both know that the ugly wee hirsute hasn't the wit to run a menage, but if she's taking the plaudits she can carry the bloody can too! 1eye.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-21 18:27:45
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 21 2010, 06:15 PM) [snapback]699887[/snapback]
"GOTCHA" again! laugh.gif

I wonder if catching a poseur who insists on being pompous enough to almost always refer to himself in the third person counts as catching TWO very small fish from this small pool at once....... happy.gif

Mortonjag comments that Mucky Boy is perceived by many others to be a pompous clot .

Mortonjag considers Mucky Boy to be of limited intelligence - capable of trotting out hackneyed and trite ripostes punctuated by the odd pun, when in truth sadly bereft of original thought or opinion!

Mortonjag has donned his incontinence knickers in preparation for yet another of Mucky Boy's fishing trips! smile.gif

mortonjag 2010-01-21 18:29:24 Douglas Rae's first name is Duncan!
mortonjag 2010-01-21 18:30:48
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jan 21 2010, 06:17 PM) [snapback]699889[/snapback]
Maybe so, but what a ****ing stupid name to give a baby girl.

Blaire!?! dry.gif

Claire/Blanche
mortonjag 2010-01-21 18:46:21
QUOTE(Fellow Traveller @ Jan 21 2010, 06:07 PM) [snapback]699881[/snapback]
I don't think anyone has ever asked me about my opinion on decision making either. The rules of the Trust were approved at an AGM, have been changed at an AGM and can be changed again if any member puts forward changes at an AGM and they are approved. Democracy in action.
Glad to hear it because I think the truth is very far away from your tongue in cheek comment.
.......................FT

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So Mr Rae likes the Trust?

I'm confused by all this talk of democracy. Am I to understand that no decisions are ever made on the day to day running of the Trust without the members being balloted? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-21 18:48:48
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jan 21 2010, 06:22 PM) [snapback]699892[/snapback]
well its just over a week until the window firmly shuts again, i know there will be a lot of business on the last day but will there be any from us? Is there any interest in mccallister or does anyone think he will still be with us until the end of the season, does anyone think that he will sign a pre with someone or have teams cooled thier interest in him due to his performances? Will jj come to us, cant see it personally due to re-signing weatherson. The main thing is we need a scorer asap or we could be in bother.

We have scorers. I'd much rather see a proper winger.
mortonjag 2010-01-21 18:53:08
QUOTE(Savo @ Jan 21 2010, 05:47 PM) [snapback]699877[/snapback]
Well you remember incorrectly, then rolleyes.gif
I thought it was out of order, I wasn't appalled. They were launching loads of flares down and the players should have been taken off the picth before one of them was inevitably hit. I don't think it is comparable to one flare being held aloft in full view of everyone.

Your points about launching them are all fair enough I suppose, I just think there is a major over-reaction to these things.

The empty bottles of Buckfast scattered all over the Cowshed on the way out the other night would be much easier to throw undetected and could do plenty of damage as well - I'd suggest they are more commonplace in grounds and much more of an issue but you never hear much about that.

I agree about tannoy songs when goals are scored, I think they're daft.

There seems something inherently contradictory about that phrase! blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-21 18:55:22
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 21 2010, 04:30 PM) [snapback]699855[/snapback]
.......shame the only tackle he shows any interest in is his own.......

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mortonjag 2010-01-21 18:57:12
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Jan 21 2010, 03:08 PM) [snapback]699804[/snapback]
If these were misses by Morton players that's exactly what you'd be calling them. So you got what you were expecting!

How dare you mention Jimbo and Superkev in the same sentence! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-21 19:01:11
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 21 2010, 06:58 PM) [snapback]699916[/snapback]
Sorry, but no. That wasn't exactly what I said.

McFarlane was very good in the first half against Celtic imo. He's about as unspectacular as you can get, yes, but he's also very experienced and done a good job keeping the entire Celtic midfield at bay, and took some nice touches that relieved the pressure. I'm not sure if he's the kind of player we need to start in every match when we have someone like Jenkins who pits himself about, but if we're up against someone like Dundee then there's not many players in the league who can shield their defence as well as McFarlane. Nor do I think he's perfect, by any means, but when he's fit he most definitely has a useful role, as does Masterton.

You're entering dangerous territory when you ask them to think, Eanie! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-21 19:04:45
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 21 2010, 07:00 PM) [snapback]699919[/snapback]
We played 3-5-2 to great effect last season with Greacen McManus Walker. Shimmin didn't play too many games under it and I'm of the opinion that a player of his ability can adapt quite easily.
We will not see any creativity from midfield if you play a 4-4-2, because our central midfield will be continually fighting for the ball against their marker, and our wide players can't go past a man and put a telling ball into the box.
Therefore, the only way to allow creativity is to give the central midfield a spare man, who can act as a playmaker.
Look, McAllister and Finlayson will not be dropped or replaced by the end of the season. That's the reality. The option for Grady is between playing four ineffective wide players, or playing two and making use of our options in the centre of the park.

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So why was Tidser signed?
mortonjag 2010-01-21 19:06:19 It happened today!
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mortonjag 2010-01-21 19:10:25
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 21 2010, 07:07 PM) [snapback]699923[/snapback]
To add to our options in the centre of midfield. I'm not sure why that's relevant to this thread.

It is relevant to the highlighted part of your previous post. What makes you think that Tidser was signed as a 'central' midfielder?
mortonjag 2010-01-21 19:12:33
QUOTE(pink_panther @ Jan 21 2010, 07:10 PM) [snapback]699927[/snapback]

I do believe that the old fud is finally losing the place completely. mad.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-21 19:18:20
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 21 2010, 07:10 PM) [snapback]699926[/snapback]
I'm sick and tired of the petrol prices down here. I paid 108.9 up at Asda in Linwood today. Maybe they think we are all rich down here or have too much money to waist on petrol.

Register free with this site. The prices in Inverclyde may be higher, but at least you'll know the best deals locally. It's daily, and you get an email with details.

petrolprices.com
mortonjag 2010-01-21 19:21:19 AAAAHH, when you cast your line upon the waters it's always gratifying to get a bite! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-21 19:21:54
QUOTE(big B @ Jan 21 2010, 07:18 PM) [snapback]699933[/snapback]
Did you have an orgasm.

Not today.
mortonjag 2010-01-21 19:25:18
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 21 2010, 07:16 PM) [snapback]699930[/snapback]

I can't argue with that, except to suggest that if Tiddler and Casino are to form a left sided partnership (albeit one more central) it kinda makes Jimbo redundant - which was the point of my original post.
mortonjag 2010-01-21 19:26:30
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 21 2010, 07:25 PM) [snapback]699945[/snapback]
still referring to yourself in the third person, I see....... tongue.gif

You don't.
mortonjag 2010-01-21 19:28:39
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 21 2010, 07:22 PM) [snapback]699942[/snapback]
DO try your best not to put the newcomers off, there's the fellow.
PS - "General Nonsense" for this pish!!!

Mortonjag cordially invites all newcomers to spend an unforgettable evening in his cellar. wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-21 19:30:37
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 21 2010, 07:28 PM) [snapback]699949[/snapback]
waiting with baited breath, were you? rolleyes.gif

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...........and No.
mortonjag 2010-01-21 19:34:01
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 21 2010, 07:27 PM) [snapback]699948[/snapback]
That's Tidser's opinion, the manager has already said Monti can't play on the left as he hasn't enough pace. (bizarre logic)

Which means unless he's bringing back that experimental diamond in the middle of the park, there will be no partnership.

I haven't a clue what you mean about experimental diamonds VT. It's just obvious to me that we now have two left footed midfielders, yet you claim that neither Jimbo nor Superkev will be dropped before the end of the season. I sincerely believe that you will be proved incorrect.
mortonjag 2010-01-21 19:35:16
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 21 2010, 07:31 PM) [snapback]699956[/snapback]
Whoosh........

Double whoosh ya daft plank! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-21 19:42:08
QUOTE(Jamie_M @ Jan 21 2010, 07:29 PM) [snapback]699951[/snapback]
No... We have 1000 members - and 2000 Mortonjag aliases!

If only!

Mortonjag has NO aliases. Check with Bryan if you wish.

They killed poor wee Mouton. That will never be forgiven.

Mouton was a little lamb
His mother's pride and joy
His dad a horny Liecester ram
Was shagged by maccaboy





mortonjag 2010-01-21 19:43:40
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 21 2010, 07:37 PM) [snapback]699960[/snapback]
If they were going to be dropped Grady would have did it by now IMO.

Hmm!
mortonjag 2010-01-21 19:45:29
QUOTE(pink_panther @ Jan 21 2010, 07:15 PM) [snapback]699929[/snapback]
Dunfermline back in cup. Play Stenny at Ochilview and fined £20k ( That'll be out their quarter mil). Also Livvy fine for not turning up at East Stiling £3k quashed.

Maybe we should have played Ronaldo the other night if he wasn't doing anything

It's stating the obvious I know, but would Celtic have tolerated any other decision? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-21 19:47:40
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jan 21 2010, 07:41 PM) [snapback]699961[/snapback]
but how can it be that a shopping outlet like morrisons can charge different prices in different areas, disgrace.

I'm not sure. Morrisons seem to use their own tankers so it may reflect the distance from the refinery and the cost of transport (or that's what they'll allege).
mortonjag 2010-01-21 19:58:52
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 21 2010, 07:49 PM) [snapback]699968[/snapback]
McWhirter's mother was a staunch Nationalist. He would be best described as a Federalist.

Hitler's mother was a Christian.
mortonjag 2010-01-21 20:00:31
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 21 2010, 07:51 PM) [snapback]699969[/snapback]
WTF is that all about. Is that auld basket case allowed out on his own.
I await the news of finding the old fruit cake come prancing onto the turf at Cappielow one day in his kegs wi thon microphone in hand to give us a rendition of The Banana boat song by Harry belafonte. Stupid old duffer.
Away and lie down in Ailsa Craig and let some young nurse rub ye up and doon. blink.gif mad.gif laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2010-01-21 20:04:50
QUOTE(The Hustler @ Jan 21 2010, 07:57 PM) [snapback]699972[/snapback]
Not a big problem? Have you noted our league position? Did you check out the subs on Tuesday given that we had no injuries? A bunch of young boys and McGregor. We need players and quickly. Or it will be Div 2 again. While 1-0 was not a disgrace we were very poor on the night. One shot on target all night against a mediocre Celtic short on confidence and beset with injuries. The only players to come out with credit were Stewart, Shimmin and Weatherson. The rest of them couldnt get rid of the ball quick enough....Jenkins physical condition is a disgrace and his contribution since signing for us on a nice fat wage has been negligible. McAllister will end up at East Stirling if he keeps performing at his current level...McFarlane is a joke and wee Kevin tries his heart out and thats about it. Hopefully the new guy in midfield will be useful and if we can sign a winger and striker we might be ok. Might.

Will you change your opinion after we hump Raith by two clear goals this Saturday?
mortonjag 2010-01-21 20:08:05
QUOTE(stuart @ Jan 21 2010, 08:03 PM) [snapback]699977[/snapback]
I don't see "what" the "big issue" is really. He is a guy "doing" what any of us would "love" to do and clearly having a grand "old" time of it. No real "harm" done to anyone at "all".

Are you "up" for it?

What the "f*ck" are you "getting" at? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-21 20:09:03
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 21 2010, 08:07 PM) [snapback]699981[/snapback]
nice attempt at recovery.......

but we both know better than that, don't we? wink.gif

Why don't you ask each other?
mortonjag 2010-01-21 20:12:38
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 21 2010, 08:05 PM) [snapback]699980[/snapback]
Why do some fans on here take everything so seriously? it was a light hearted message from the chairman about one of our players signing a new contract. I quite liked the personal touch announcing it. Mind you it is a Thursday, which means we needed to find something else to moan about.

It sounded to me more like another cringeworthy attempt at ego massaging by a self obsessed old fud whose sanity must surely now be causing anxiety to the rest of the Board.
mortonjag 2010-01-21 20:18:49
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 21 2010, 08:10 PM) [snapback]699985[/snapback]
Nope. Peter is not and never will be a Morton great so he needs a partner. End of.

He already has a partner - don't you read 'Life on a Shoogly Peg'?

'Although Peter is a Geordie he is now a local lad and expects to marry and settle down with his attractive fiancee, Lesley Anne'.

I wonder if the old duffer had a big stauner as he wrote that. The May Hughes 'Roly Poly's finally have competition! blink.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-21 20:21:05
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 21 2010, 08:15 PM) [snapback]699990[/snapback]
The same could be said about y........ laugh.gif

I'm glad that came from you Spurtle. You are awful but I like you. [attachment=6364:hit.gif]
mortonjag 2010-01-21 20:22:58
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 21 2010, 08:13 PM) [snapback]699989[/snapback]
He wasn't born , he was knitted. happy.gif

I was not talking about McBam's cuddly toy.
mortonjag 2010-01-21 20:25:09
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 21 2010, 08:20 PM) [snapback]699995[/snapback]
Fwaaaaaaaaaaaaah! laugh.gif

*wipes ters from eyes*

Aye yer right enough there Jaggy, there's only room for one of you, and you're the man! laugh.gif

Too late son - Haggis heid beat you.

QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 21 2010, 08:20 PM) [snapback]699996[/snapback]
laugh.gif Utter nonsense, Mr Pooter. Away and chase yerself.

NOT what I heard from a reliable source. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-21 20:27:37
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 21 2010, 08:24 PM) [snapback]700001[/snapback]
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Wait till May Hughes see's you at scappa. You'll pay for that comment laugh.gif

You must admit that they are a bit wobbly - a perfect accompaniment for our Chairman.
mortonjag 2010-01-21 20:42:47
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 21 2010, 08:29 PM) [snapback]700012[/snapback]
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Wit bits are ye lookin at ? happy.gif

Them all.

QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 21 2010, 08:32 PM) [snapback]700017[/snapback]
Tsk, tsk, mj, the curse of the rogue apostrophe has befallen you.

The start of the slippery slope. Alzheimer's next, maybe? laugh.gif

It has been amended.
mortonjag 2010-01-21 20:46:20
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jan 21 2010, 08:27 PM) [snapback]700009[/snapback]
At least DDF doesn't laugh at his own jokes Ernie. dry.gif

But you do Smiffy and he just adores you! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jan 21 2010, 08:39 PM) [snapback]700021[/snapback]
Why read it repeatedly then. I really don't see what the fuss is about.

Maybe we should enlist Jim Leishman so we could have club news put into lame rhyming couplets. No point I suppose since we've already got an embarrassing fool doing that on here.

I must have missed your attempt at poetry.

Hopefully it surpasses your prose.
mortonjag 2010-01-21 20:48:10
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jan 21 2010, 08:24 PM) [snapback]700000[/snapback]
Yes it does. The BBC stated where they wanted the camera gantries and the Club had to comply. That is why the Cowshed fence was removed, thereby allowing Ton fans access to the full length of the enclosure. smile.gif

Says Smiffy! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-21 20:50:35
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 21 2010, 08:26 PM) [snapback]700005[/snapback]
I'm not talkin about big Annabel Goldie either... rolleyes.gif

Now there's a REAL wummin! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-21 21:03:08 Dear Mr Rae,

On behalf of my fellow fans, I'd like to assure you most sincerely that none of us really believes for one minute that you are a daft old fud.

Indeed, I suspect that many are secretly jealous of your undoubted business acumen.

Securing Peter Weatherson's signature in the face of such fierce competition was indeed a remarkable achievement - something which I'm certain will have opened the eyes of those who doubted you.

Mortonjag
mortonjag 2010-01-21 21:06:11
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Jan 21 2010, 09:04 PM) [snapback]700038[/snapback]
Well, I sure wouldn't mind being a millionaire.

Absolutely. Mr Rae is indeed a very wealthy man.
mortonjag 2010-01-21 21:11:13
QUOTE(Zutons @ Jan 21 2010, 09:08 PM) [snapback]700041[/snapback]
No. I won't allow you to be a Mod. rolleyes.gif

Stop asking. rolleyes.gif

Mortonjag directed his praise towards Mr Rae! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-21 21:16:42
QUOTE(londonref @ Jan 21 2010, 09:10 PM) [snapback]700043[/snapback]
It might have been Raman Bhardwarj that showed the clip, can't remember now. But I'm sure that the young assistant buckled under pressure from the Hamilton bench and changed his mind and the ref went with this change and disallowed the goal. My recollection of the ref's statement at the time was that he said that he had thought it was a handball but wasn't 100% or words to that effect. If indeed that is factually incorrect does that make me a liar MJ? ph34r.gif

I don't understand your post at all, though I do see a question mark at the end.

I can't help feeling that there may be some hidden meaning, but I'm always careful not to tread on the toes of virgin posters.

If there is anything you don't fully understand about the events of that afternoon, I suggest you contact the SFA. They may even show you copies of the correspondence between Mortonjag and Mr Smith! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-21 21:18:03
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Jan 21 2010, 09:12 PM) [snapback]700045[/snapback]
Yeah, I think we needed another thread for this.

It's unusual to get praise.

Thank you Mr Dum Dum.
mortonjag 2010-01-22 16:03:12
QUOTE(londonref @ Jan 21 2010, 09:24 PM) [snapback]700056[/snapback]
This is a worrying development MJ because we now have something in common, as I don't understand most of your posts either!
As my board name alludes to, I too am a man in black / red / fluorescent yellow, and I'm well content with the decision and explanations given way back that day. Call it solidarity, old boys union, masons whatever, but when I watch a match I'm watching three teams, home, away and the officials. All this at no extra cost. ph34r.gif
Respect brother.



If you're serious I call it pig headed stupidity in the face of overwhelming evidence which discredits Thomson! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-22 16:08:40
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 22 2010, 12:26 PM) [snapback]700260[/snapback]
That would be "direct democracy." "Democracy," as commonly understood, refers to representative democracy, of which the Trust is an example.

In other words a democracy which incorporates 'Heid Bummers', (as I suggested) which Fellow Traveller refutes?
mortonjag 2010-01-22 16:15:28
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 21 2010, 09:26 PM) [snapback]700057[/snapback]
That applies to every single one of your posts. Although I suspect I'm taking the bait here as you've probably posted that in the way you did to get a response such as mine but hey ho.

There was no bait Ratarse.

QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jan 21 2010, 09:49 PM) [snapback]700067[/snapback]
You're giving the jag too much credit. He has no concept of laying or taking the bait.

Don't try to second guess the Jag. Away and get a blow jog aff the wife. ph34r.gif

QUOTE(big B @ Jan 22 2010, 12:05 PM) [snapback]700248[/snapback]
There is only one old fud on this board and that's you get a life man and go down and pick up yer pension.

It's paid into one of my many bank accounts! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-22 16:19:47
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jan 21 2010, 11:03 PM) [snapback]700116[/snapback]
Human saliva has a boiling point three times that of regular water.

A very confusing statement.

Do you refer to your own saliva?

The original statement is of course complete nonsense.
mortonjag 2010-01-22 16:25:01
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 22 2010, 03:57 PM) [snapback]700322[/snapback]
Come on Alibi, even Col is more pragmatic about some of the SNP's policies. Your blind allegiance is just dangerous and unnerving.

Mental Health is one of the biggest stigma's in society it is also a growing concern due to better dignosing and more understanding professionals.

There are certain aspects of society that need protected from political interference.

MJ's distain for your beloved SNP politician should not get muddied with the need to retain the tribunals or improve them through conseltation

ABSOLUTELY, and I bet those who have knee jerked don't even understand why they were set up, what they attempt to do, and why this MONEY SAVING INITIATIVE is simply a further example of how politicians don't give a toss about the N.H.S., let alone Mental Health issues.
mortonjag 2010-01-22 16:28:31
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 22 2010, 04:26 PM) [snapback]700333[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2010-01-22 16:33:28
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 22 2010, 04:28 PM) [snapback]700335[/snapback]
Yeah, that's basically how representative democracies work. Right of recall, transparency etc. obviously varies with the territory.

So my term the 'Heid Bummers' at the Trust needn't really have caused offence since I merely equated them to the 'Heid Bummers' in democracy at large - folk like Margaret Thatcher, Gordon Brown, and Bawheid Salmond. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-22 16:36:10 Peter Weatherson
From the Chairmans office

I am delighted to announce that Peter Weatherson has signed an extension to his contract which will mean that he will be with me and hopefully banging in the goals until May 2012.

Peter showed in the match against Celtic on Tuesday evening that he is a great talent and well worthy of his new extended contract. It would be difficult to imagine Peter plying his trade in any shirt other than a Morton one!

Other Clubs were trying to lure Peter away from me, but after he considered all other offers he decided that "East, West, hame's best", which was a big relief to me. What I now have to do is build my attacking formation round Peter so that he can have the opportunity to double his tally of goals scored. I want Peter to "up" his game so that he can become a "Morton great" and challenge the other players who have been leading marksmen in past years.

"You are the man!" You can do it! Go for it Peter!

Douglas Rae
Chairman
21.01.10

Posted on 21 January, 2010
mortonjag 2010-01-22 16:43:37 Just another c*nt scrambling up the capitalist pile on the back of pseudo socialist ideology.

That lot are the REAL scum. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-22 16:59:37 Just get the Pope to sort it!
mortonjag 2010-01-22 17:06:55 It's been a long time coming but we will definitely win tomorrow. I'm not certain whether it will be 2 - 0, or 3 - 1 but we'll win by a two goal margin anyway.

There are far too many blind or blinkered fools on this massage board who only seem capable of thinking one day at a time.

Since JG replaced Sheep Lips we've always been 'there or thereabouts' and depite the injuries plague have nearly pulled it off several times against teams high up in the league. Raith started well but have been fading (forget one offs). We've done exactly the opposite.

Away banker!!! cool.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-22 17:26:12 It only gets worse
mortonjag 2010-01-22 18:06:48
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 22 2010, 06:04 PM) [snapback]700362[/snapback]
Three posts away from someone mentioning intercourse and a man of the cloth laugh.gif

Sex frenzied robot humps tailor's dummy.
mortonjag 2010-01-22 18:10:47
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 22 2010, 05:38 PM) [snapback]700359[/snapback]
Thank god The Good Samaritan wasnae a doctor or a teacher. Glesca cooncil are a bunch of tight fisted gits. Give the wummin money tae get her wallys fixed ya eejits. This country is going loco in accapulco I tell you. They will be voting in the Tories next it is that bad.

For a' that, an a' that,
It's coming yet for a' that,
That Man to Man, the world o'er,
Shall Tories be for a' that.
mortonjag 2010-01-22 18:23:15
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 22 2010, 06:15 PM) [snapback]700367[/snapback]
Will the Cooncil be supplying security services within schools then ??Surely if the council are warning them not to break up fights then there is a need for security services to ensure these things are handled professionally .

On the one side you have dedicated Head Teachers topping themselves when the HMIS spies don't quite like the 'put up show' and on the other you have Cooncils indirectly telling the wee c*nts they can run riot in the playground and the Staff have no RIGHT to intervene. That plus the universal jealousy of the long holidays etc.,

I honestly think that anybody who considers teaching these days deserves what he gets! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-22 18:45:54
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Jan 22 2010, 06:39 PM) [snapback]700374[/snapback]
There was an 83% chance of that one being made up.

..and less than a one in five chance of it being factual.
mortonjag 2010-01-22 18:48:30 Is Donga deid?
mortonjag 2010-01-22 18:54:39
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Jan 22 2010, 06:51 PM) [snapback]700377[/snapback]
Puggsy has a point. What's yours?

I think he simply meant that the dwarf is not his idea of a 'cracker' so said dwarf's only chance of getting his hole tonight is from the bed buggers.
mortonjag 2010-01-22 19:06:42 [attachment=6366:hospital...hairmans.jpg] = [attachment=6365:turnip.jpg] unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-22 19:08:49
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Jan 22 2010, 06:58 PM) [snapback]700379[/snapback]
The penguin is the only bird that can swim, but not fly.

An egg is the only thing that a human eats before it is born, and after it has died.

All babies are colour blind when they are born.

There are more English speaking people in China than there are in the United States.

A baby is born with no kneecaps, and they form between the ages of 2 and 6 years old.

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mortonjag 2010-01-22 19:11:44
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 22 2010, 07:09 PM) [snapback]700384[/snapback]
Not as far as I know?

So he may be?
mortonjag 2010-01-22 19:14:42 However, the SFA is likely to throw out the plan.
A spokesman said: "Any proposed change of name would require to be submitted to the board for consideration and approval.
"Given that a name change for commercial purposes would have huge implications, the integrity of the game would be paramount in any decision-making process

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mortonjag 2010-01-22 19:15:47
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 22 2010, 07:13 PM) [snapback]700386[/snapback]
laugh.gif That is awesome.

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gruesome?
mortonjag 2010-01-22 19:31:35
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 22 2010, 07:25 PM) [snapback]700390[/snapback]
He's not as dead as this place.

Perhaps it will rise again like Jesus.
mortonjag 2010-01-22 19:33:37
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jan 22 2010, 07:26 PM) [snapback]700392[/snapback]
its a dreadful state of affairs, but our army has been too big for years

Yip it's like the Polis - who says wee men cannae fecht?
mortonjag 2010-01-22 19:35:28
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 22 2010, 07:32 PM) [snapback]700395[/snapback]
PM him and ask smile.gif

Have you no sense of propriety?

I'd never dream of sending a personal message to someone who might be dead.
mortonjag 2010-01-22 21:06:47
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jan 22 2010, 08:37 PM) [snapback]700413[/snapback]
Never hold your nose and cover your mouth when sneezing, as it can blow out your eyeballs. FACT

It is impossible to sneeze with the nostrils pinched -FACT ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-22 21:14:18 Who made up the title?

Grade A aspirations? laugh.gif

JonaTon - I think I'll call him Mr Bloggy - don't know what I'd do without him. smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-22 21:16:46
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 22 2010, 08:40 PM) [snapback]700414[/snapback]
"Peter to "up" his game".

Has he been playing below his capabilities. unsure.gif

The article had nothing to do with 'Peter', in truth.

With apologies to the Mental Health awareness slogan, what it said was

SEE ME - I'M A BENEFACTOR. dry.gif

....and you only have to
mortonjag 2010-01-22 21:18:51
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jan 22 2010, 08:29 PM) [snapback]700412[/snapback]
We should go for a more classy moniker like this for example cool name

Greenock Fray Bentos F.C.
mortonjag 2010-01-22 21:25:25 Shoogly had just left Aulds with a bag of broken biscuits and minus a black leather glove. Susie was a passenger in the car and he asked her to pop back in to retrieve it. As she left, the assistant said - tell your husband he can pay for the biscuits next time he's in. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-22 21:38:02
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 22 2010, 09:02 PM) [snapback]700418[/snapback]
Where are the bright orange strip and dayglo yellow strip from circa 1967-68? Didn't need floodlights when we wore those...

Is it true that Hal Stewart had fluorescent balls?
mortonjag 2010-01-22 21:42:54
QUOTE(capello @ Jan 22 2010, 09:39 PM) [snapback]700435[/snapback]
Not again!
Been done to death!

He tried TWICE! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-22 21:47:10 It's as dead as a dildo and nobody's fighting.

Something is seriously wrong.

I wouldn't dream of spoiling the peace by mentioning Douglas Rae, let alone the shortage of potatoes, or people's lack of trust those days -so I won't.
mortonjag 2010-01-22 21:49:02
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jan 22 2010, 09:46 PM) [snapback]700438[/snapback]
Been away but looked over a few of the threads. Surprised not more of an outcry about the big goofy, Greek. Handball when scoring a goal followed by a booking later on which would have resulted in a red card. No outcry from the 'tic fans about fair play. They must have moved on from the Henry incident rolleyes.gif .

Also, missed a trick in not playing the game on the Monday. It seemed to have benefited ICT against Murderwell. We seem to carry no luck or for that matter no threat up front. Not to worry though as we have a c-f we can build a team around... ph34r.gif

he
mortonjag 2010-01-22 21:51:52
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 22 2010, 09:49 PM) [snapback]700443[/snapback]
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Serious question, guvnor.

Having read more of your posts than I care to remember, and all too often found myself baffled, perplexed and totally lost in your mangled logic, missed points and tortured English, I have to ask you: are you quite sure that you are sane??

Please, if you feel the need to reply, could you keep it down to a simple yes or no? I've just eaten, and I don't fancy any more of your drivel tonight.......

Take it you used a spoon ya loonball! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-22 21:56:36
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 22 2010, 09:54 PM) [snapback]700447[/snapback]
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And who rattled YOUR cage???

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I'm in the cellar tonight. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-22 21:58:49
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 22 2010, 09:56 PM) [snapback]700450[/snapback]
Where the hell is Mathie Road when it's at home?

You READ that crap! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-22 22:01:52
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jan 22 2010, 09:59 PM) [snapback]700453[/snapback]
All cards are marked,all fates will collide. The truth is the truth or the truth is surely a lie get back in your shelter if you can't come down of the fence and one more question? Where were you ? Where were you hiding ? When the storm broke, when the rain began to fall, when the thunder and the lightning struck and the rain and the four winds did howl.

I can't argue with that.
mortonjag 2010-01-23 07:23:46
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 22 2010, 11:34 PM) [snapback]700490[/snapback]
Why would he not like the Trust ?

They helped him to finance his takeover/buyout.

And have helped the cause ever since.

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I have never said that Mr Rae disliked getting money from mugs.

Mr Rae thrives on 'divide and rule'.

Mr Rae does not like the concept of the fans having a voice - the raison d'etre of the Trust. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-23 07:32:18
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 23 2010, 12:32 AM) [snapback]700510[/snapback]
From what I've read today it wasn't actually the SFA's decision. According to the Scottish Sun the appeal was heard by an independent panel made up of Hamilton Accies' secretary Scott Struthers, ex-SJFA president Gordon Law and solicitor Stephen Miller.

In fact, SFA chief executive, Gordon Smith, said he was surprised by their decision.

So that slimeball's no longer on the Ref's committee at the SFA? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-23 07:35:10 They are still looking for Jack the Ripper though I suspect he's dead.
mortonjag 2010-01-23 07:40:21
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jan 23 2010, 12:16 AM) [snapback]700504[/snapback]
And what happens if a baboon learns to play the clarinet? Will it be allowed to compete on the X Factor?

Edit to add: Of course, I meant Britains Got Talent but it's Friday night after all.

PM my monkey and you might get to join his band! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-23 07:42:17
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 22 2010, 11:58 PM) [snapback]700498[/snapback]
The penalty for masturbation in Indonesia is decapitation.

of what?
mortonjag 2010-01-23 07:47:12
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 22 2010, 10:03 PM) [snapback]700455[/snapback]
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Are you the guvnor in disguise??

Wait though; it scans well, the grammar is broadly acceptable and the spelling is correct. All things considered, then, no you are NOT the guvnor.

Even though you're talking irrelevant keech.

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mortonjag 2010-01-23 08:05:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 23 2010, 07:41 AM) [snapback]700537[/snapback]
Can we trust your calculations ?

The bloke who claimed that he was a wee teenager in 1965 ?

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You are becoming more able at spin than Mr Rae. I just forgot it was in the old FIRST division, and I WAS a teenager.

Anyway, what with the rise in the price of sugar, the Tymz match safely oot the road, Weatherson re-signed, and that faux Holy Willie out of Celeb BB, there's little to talk about.

Alistair Donald has long since disappeared leaving a fading trail of debt, broken promises, false identification papers and a bent flute, the Trust has disappeared because the trust was never there in the first place, and the Old Fud once again reigns supreme.

No discussion indeed, nor will there ever be any at Cappielow until the mighty Shooglemeister is toppled.

mortonjag 2010-01-23 08:05:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 23 2010, 07:41 AM) [snapback]700537[/snapback]
Can we trust your calculations ?

The bloke who claimed that he was a wee teenager in 1965 ?

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You are becoming more able at spin than Mr Rae. I just forgot it was in the old FIRST division, and I WAS a teenager.

Anyway, what with the rise in the price of sugar, the Tymz match safely oot the road, Weatherson re-signed, and that faux Holy Willie out of Celeb BB, there's little to talk about.

Alistair Donald has long since disappeared leaving a fading trail of debt, broken promises, false identification papers and a bent flute, the Trust has disappeared because the trust was never there in the first place, and the Old Fud once again reigns supreme.

No discussion indeed, nor will there ever be any at Cappielow until the mighty Shooglemeister is toppled.

mortonjag 2010-01-23 08:06:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 23 2010, 07:41 AM) [snapback]700537[/snapback]
Can we trust your calculations ?

The bloke who claimed that he was a wee teenager in 1965 ?

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You are becoming more able at spin than Mr Rae. I just forgot it was in the old FIRST division, and I WAS a teenager.

Anyway, what with the rise in the price of sugar, the Tymz match safely oot the road, Weatherson re-signed, and that faux Holy Willie out of Celeb BB, there's little to talk about.

Alistair Donald has long since disappeared leaving a fading trail of debt, broken promises, false identification papers and a bent flute, the Trust has disappeared because the trust was never there in the first place, and the Old Fud once again reigns supreme.

No discussion indeed, nor will there ever be any at Cappielow until the mighty Shooglemeister is toppled.

mortonjag 2010-01-23 08:15:06

What with the rise in the price of sugar, the Tymz match safely oot the road, Weatherson re-signed, and that faux Holy Willie out of Celeb BB, there's little to talk about.

Alistair Donald has long since disappeared leaving a fading trail of debt, broken promises, false identification papers and a bent flute, the Trust has disappeared because the trust was never there in the first place, and that Old Fud once again reigns supreme.

No discussion indeed, nor will there ever be any at Cappielow until the mighty Shooglemeister is toppled. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-23 08:23:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 23 2010, 08:16 AM) [snapback]700546[/snapback]
It's been reported here that Oz wine is now being bottled by Tesco in 300 gram rather than 500 gram bottles.

Have these new bottles hit the shelves yet ?

Next they'll be useing PET.

YUK.

No discussion! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-23 08:27:00
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 23 2010, 06:19 AM) [snapback]700531[/snapback]
She was wonderful as Ophelia opposite Laurence Olivier in the 1948 production of Hamlet.

And not bad in Guys and Dolls.

RIP

Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankind
mortonjag 2010-01-23 08:50:02 Margot McDonald's Bill seems to have slipped in almost unnoticed, but this is the first step towards euthanasia in Scotland, and for me a move out of the dark ages.

When God gets it wrong, mortals have to take some responsibility instead of prolonging suffering by creeping like cowards behind fanciful religious smokescreens.

If a dog is is agony it is put down.

The same should apply for humans if they want that, be the agony mental, physical, or a combination of both.

Attempted suicide/suicide is no longer a crime, so what's the big problem? The precedent exists in countries arguably more civilised and forward thinking than our own.

Anyway, the answer is plain for all clear minded folk to see, but mention of this will deflect the Holy Willies from the OF/Calf Lick Proddy crap for a wee while, give some sad c*nts another chance to equate the whole medical profession with Shipman - oh - and we'll probably get the 'opinions' of our resident 'know it alls' from as far flung places as Brussels and the Strone. smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-23 08:52:23
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 23 2010, 08:36 AM) [snapback]700556[/snapback]
How many of the moderators are actively involved in the Supporters' Society ?

I Trust you receive an answer.
mortonjag 2010-01-23 08:54:43
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 23 2010, 08:51 AM) [snapback]700559[/snapback]
i am spartacus!

i've always thought that quote about every death diminishing you is a right load of keech. the night thatcher dies, i'm going to go out and celebrate like it's 1999.

I suppose Thatcher is a man.
mortonjag 2010-01-23 10:13:01 I always think those 'What are you' threads end up as a boast fest.

Me - I've just finished Dale Carnegie's 'How to win friends and influence people'!
mortonjag 2010-01-23 10:29:12
QUOTE(Flyerton @ Jan 23 2010, 10:23 AM) [snapback]700589[/snapback]
Interesting video, subsidised flight.

[youtube]3iSdmb0QlSc[/youtube]

Scotland also has the worlds only scheduled commercial beach landing (Glasgow - Barra)

There was a wee bit about that recently on Radio Scotland, which mentioned among other things that it's how the children get to school!
mortonjag 2010-01-23 10:56:32
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Jan 23 2010, 10:33 AM) [snapback]700592[/snapback]
You are not even remotely funny. Please stay away from my posts.
Given that I taught you, that's a safe bet.

WOW! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-23 11:00:23
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 23 2010, 10:46 AM) [snapback]700594[/snapback]
Surely they are entitled to their opinions - warts and all - emotion and all - you just gave us yours, so why shouldn't they have theirs ?????

For what it's worth I would be closely aligned to the thoughts of yourself, the flea carrier and Mr McB.

I would make sure that it was heavily legislated though, and there was VERY clear guidance on when this would, and wouldn't be appropriate.

TonInDublin

Did I say that they weren't? unsure.gif
FYI
mortonjag 2010-01-23 11:08:49
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 23 2010, 10:47 AM) [snapback]700595[/snapback]
hard to take from an avowed elitist like yourself. can it be that you despise people talking about books because you're ignorant of them? i'm reminded of the nazi quote about culture and guns.

I don't despise people talking about books at all.

Educated discussion differs significantly from a staccato posting of book titles. 'What are you listening to' is even worse.

If you had asked me to describe in a few sentences a book I have recently read/am reading, adding some critical comments, my response may have been quite different. In fact I did exactly that recently of 'A history of British Serial Killing' by David Wilson smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-23 11:10:51
QUOTE(monyou @ Jan 23 2010, 11:09 AM) [snapback]700601[/snapback]
laugh.gif You do that on here every day!! smile.gif

Exactly and I've now read the book fifty four times.
mortonjag 2010-01-23 11:14:36
QUOTE(monyou @ Jan 23 2010, 11:05 AM) [snapback]700598[/snapback]
I couldn't agree more (with both your posts).

(I don't know how to multi quote sad.gif )

Ha ha - I couldn't do it for ages and it drove the Dong mad.

Click on the 'quote' button for each post you want to answer before doing anything else. The buttons will change colour. Once you've done that for all the relevant posts, click on 'add reply'.

I feel obliged to say 'simples' but won't because it's childish. wink.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-23 11:20:21
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jan 23 2010, 11:17 AM) [snapback]700606[/snapback]
It's a scarf, isn't it ?
Not necessarily so - It just means that the same guy who divvied up the Peterhead dosh did the accounting at the Celtic game tongue.gif

For the record, as a happy clapper , I must record my total confidence in the 50/50 set up rolleyes.gif

Yip -the two faced muffler will probably be around for a few years yet.
mortonjag 2010-01-23 11:53:04
QUOTE(tonyton1976 @ Jan 23 2010, 11:40 AM) [snapback]700614[/snapback]

"Mr Rae has ambitions for Morton which match my own, so that was a big part of it. It is a great club, a club at which I get on so well with the chairman and staff. I firmly believe in what the chairman is trying to do for the club and I believe he can do it."
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mortonjag 2010-01-23 12:08:25
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 23 2010, 11:37 AM) [snapback]700612[/snapback]
No to the first one - but your "opinions" in quotes suggested they might not be worthy of the boards resident Sawbones. We just need to make sure that when we get the die-Pod into action we have all the wrinkles and opinions dispositioned.

I had a read at the proposed bill. Some interesting stuff - and lots of potential for grey areas.
Although to be fair, I agree with some of the earlier posts - no chance of it being passed when the morality brigade get their paws on it.

TonInDublin

Which of course is entitled to its opinion - and that was exactly the point of my "opinions", TiD.

Legislation is generally passed by people remote from the reality of the area of concern. Somehow that is inherently undemocratic. If we had a referendum on hanging, euthanasia, or whatever, that would in theory at least be representative of what the people want, but the people are too stupid to make laws. That must be entrusted to elected 'representatives' who often haven't a clue.

I'll guarantee that if this thread does develop, not one solitary poster who's seen a friend or relative die in protracted misery and with loss of dignity will be opposed to the new Bill.

Those who will, I have described in advance as 'know it alls' because they don't.

They are entitled to their 'opinions' - a.k.a. brainwashing, indoctrination, prejudice, pathological plagiarism - whatever you will, but they have NOT worn the tee shirt.
mortonjag 2010-01-23 12:13:50
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 23 2010, 12:03 PM) [snapback]700621[/snapback]
Don't quite get your point there Jaggy, isn't the point of you starting this thread to get peoples 'opinions'?

But, since you're asking.......

The main problem I have with this or similar bills is that some people may feel obliged or pressurised into ending their life prematurely because they don't want to become a burden to their loved ones, even if their loved ones are happy, willing and able to take on that responsibility.

Or even worse, there's the possibility of some vulnerable people being cajoled and coerced into asking for a assisted suicide by unscrupulous relatives wanting their inheritance sooner rather than later.

If safeguards were put in place to prevent these kind of things happening I'd be all for the bill, though I can't think of what these safeguards could possibly be and how they could be effective. Can you?

So, for these reasons, I'm out.

I've heard that crap trotted out time after time and it just doesn't wash with those with experience in the area of the terminally ill. You are, of course, entitled to theorise - just as those at Holyrood will - and people with your 'justified' opinions about a matter they do not understand WILL probably ensure MUCH more suffering for a long time to come.
mortonjag 2010-01-23 12:18:27
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 23 2010, 12:11 PM) [snapback]700628[/snapback]
You are so very wrong there Jaggy, so wrong. In fact, you've no idea just how wrong you are.

Stating that I'm wrong without a shred of evidence is exactly the type of stuff that we'll get in Holyrood from the self satisfied ignorami who haven't been there. I have this scary feeling that I'm just about to hear some sob story about how your old Uncle Joe wanted to put an end to his misery, and how the whole family agreed except yourself because you thought he was being 'pressurised'! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-23 12:23:09
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 23 2010, 12:16 PM) [snapback]700633[/snapback]
Can you explain how it's 'crap'?

I assume then you refuse to accept there's even the possibility that some vulnerable people may be coerced or cajoled into asking for their life to be ended prematurely by unscrupulous relatives?

It's crap because you suggested it.

There are folk MUCH more experienced and MUCH more intelligent than you who will be WELL aware of possible irregularities, as 44TT has pointed out. I've posted a link to the Bill too. Have a read at that.

You, of course, will argue that you know better. Arguing the general from the particular is the realm of the naive and brain damaged!

mortonjag 2010-01-24 08:57:28
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 23 2010, 12:22 PM) [snapback]700637[/snapback]
What do you want, a case history?

A close relative of mine died 3 years ago from mouth cancer that spread firtly to her throat and then through all of her vital organs one by one. When she eventually succumbed to the disease she was unrecognisable. That enough detail for you?

If you don't want to take my word for that then quite honestly I couldn't give a flying one.


I have no reason to disbelieve that, though using the information to justify your petulant touting of unlikely possibilities to argue against the Bill is incongruous.


QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 23 2010, 12:27 PM) [snapback]700641[/snapback]
I really don't know why you're going out your way to be personally offensive and aggressive to me on this thread Jaggy, I think I've put over my counter arguments in a reasoned manner.

But, that being the case, I'll leave you to it.

Enjoy.

Wherever did you get that idea? It seems to equate nicely with your paranoid notion that sane people are going to be 'pressurised' into killing themselves. Some clever people have extreme difficulty with logic and objectivity. I believe you fall into that group. That was why I described your opinion as 'crap', and naive.

QUOTE(leyTON @ Jan 23 2010, 05:24 PM) [snapback]700887[/snapback]
no MSP in the west of csotland would dare back it, the mail on the subject can get vitriolic, a shame really when im sure a chunk of them think its a great idea

It is abhorrently shameful. So far as I can see MSP's are being asked on this occasion to vote with respect to their own beliefs and consciences. If end of life assistance is not made legal it will simply continue to be given by those with the means and knowledge.

For the second time in two days I'm tempted to say 'simples', but I won't because it might offend the 'little ones'.
mortonjag 2010-01-24 10:47:42
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Jan 22 2010, 05:06 PM) [snapback]700346[/snapback]
It's been a long time coming but we will definitely win tomorrow. I'm not certain whether it will be 2 - 0, or 3 - 1 but we'll win by a two goal margin anyway.

There are far too many blind or blinkered fools on this massage board who only seem capable of thinking one day at a time.

Since JG replaced Sheep Lips we've always been 'there or thereabouts' and depite the injuries plague have nearly pulled it off several times against teams high up in the league. Raith started well but have been fading (forget one offs). We've done exactly the opposite.

Away banker!!! cool.gif

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It was NEVER a penalty!
mortonjag 2010-01-24 10:49:24 More like the Jimbo we used to rave about and had a vital role in both goals.

CREDIT WHERE DUE.
mortonjag 2010-01-24 10:53:31
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 23 2010, 05:41 PM) [snapback]700900[/snapback]
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No ones responding to me these days so best make a thread about it

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mortonjag 2010-01-24 10:56:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 24 2010, 03:22 AM) [snapback]701102[/snapback]
Motoring offences also scored a very high 97 per cent detection rate, including offences such as using mobile phones while driving and not using seatbelts.

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How does one calculate a detection rate ?

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http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/news/go...0-clearup-rate/

Guess you just have to trust them.
mortonjag 2010-01-24 11:52:53
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jan 24 2010, 11:24 AM) [snapback]701149[/snapback]
Could you not have emailed the club asking this question instead of posting another pointless topic on here?

Is this another pointless attack on what is in my opinion an extremely important question?
mortonjag 2010-01-24 11:54:48
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 23 2010, 02:02 PM) [snapback]700669[/snapback]
1 and your point is?

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I didn't detect any 'point' - merely a civilised question deserving of a civilised answer! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-24 11:57:58
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 24 2010, 11:52 AM) [snapback]701159[/snapback]
Wouldn't quite go that far. tongue.gif

I think, with the right approach, we will win by a few goals next weekend... I'm not too bothered what happens in the other game - I suppose a draw would be alright.

Nothing like keeping your options open - eh? laugh.gif

I imagine that with the wrong approach we may very well lose 5 - 0. I do, however, believe that we now have some momentum and I certainly believe we'll win a dour battle, possibly by a single goal.
mortonjag 2010-01-24 11:59:54 The Bovrils at Starks park cost more than twice those at Cappielow! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-24 12:02:37
QUOTE(C B @ Jan 24 2010, 11:59 AM) [snapback]701164[/snapback]
Yes, I agree and if he makes it 2 good games in a row for the first time this season then maybe someone will want him at the end of the season rolleyes.gif

You sound somewhat pessimistic. Maybe his form has 'turned the corner' as undoubtedly happens in football. Maybe the arrival of Tiddler has focused his mind - who knows! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-24 12:08:38
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 24 2010, 01:33 AM) [snapback]701066[/snapback]
I thought his debut was quite promising without being spectacular. He was subbed after 60 minutes, probably because he wasn't match fit, as he didn't look injured. I also thought it might've been because we were 2-0 up and the pitch was so poor that his passing wasn't going to be very effective on it anyway.

He is a midfield playmaker who looks to dictate the play by putting his foot on the ball and looking for a pass. He isn't an attacking midfielder who runs at people with the ball and gets lots of shots away.

He was tidy in possession and looks to have a good range of passing, although he did look to play a couple of very ambitious balls over the top that no one read, and probably wouldn't have got on the end of anyway. I particularly liked the way he could take a pass into feet and accurately lay the ball back into his team mate's path - rather than put it right back to where the other player was standing when he gave him the ball - with one touch.

I was encouraged by his debut. Hopefully there's more to come as he gets to know his team mates and gets the chance to play on a half decent playing surface.

I got the impression that he can play football, but that a combination of factors yesterday led to him being pretty ineffective, and his booking for stupidly kicking the ball away makes me wonder why he was Captain of the Cellic under 19's.

Can't say I was at all impressed by his showing yesterday - in fact it was only when Pantaloons came on in support of Jenks that the latter showed some of the forward drive which makes him such an asset (and of course he neatly layed off Jimbo's pass to Spoonsy for the second goal.

Early days for the Tiddler. I reckon he'll come good for us.
mortonjag 2010-01-24 12:17:25
QUOTE(C B @ Jan 24 2010, 12:13 PM) [snapback]701171[/snapback]
I think today Graham showed why Kane came on during the week, he is too easily knocked off the ball and doesn't have the pace or strength that Wake offers either.

Graham is too old to be called a boy now with Tiddles and Kane in the squad and I just don't think he is physical enough to play at this level.

He could become more physical!

He was anonymous yesterday.
mortonjag 2010-01-24 12:19:03
QUOTE(C B @ Jan 24 2010, 12:16 PM) [snapback]701172[/snapback]
We can but hope, i'd love to say bon voyage to the old Jim at the end of the season but based on performances to date its looking more likely that we'll be saying bugger off to the new Jim tongue.gif

I enjoyed yesterday's victory. We will end up mid table - possibly even fourth! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-24 13:14:32
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 24 2010, 12:30 PM) [snapback]701177[/snapback]
Pointless attack? Bless!

More a case of, why ask an internet forum when we all know there are other, more obvious, places this could be asked.

...unless someone is posting it just to stir up which is most likely why it has been done. I say most likely, I mean actually why it has been done.
End of topic, bring on the orly owl
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mortonjag 2010-01-24 13:15:29
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Jan 24 2010, 12:18 PM) [snapback]701174[/snapback]
what momentum are you harping on about 1 win when we achieve 2 wins in a row then we'll talk momentum

Good for youse! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-24 13:16:53
QUOTE(C B @ Jan 24 2010, 12:50 PM) [snapback]701191[/snapback]
Brian and I actually have a mutual aquaintance and he's a lovely lad, but you know how footballers always seem smaller when you meet them up close? Well Graham is actually a lot skinnier when you meet him up close. He has one of those necks that they don't have a collar size small enough for.

He will need to go to the gym for a good 6 months and get swinging those kettle bells unsure.gif

Are you calling Brian Graham a POUFFE? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-24 13:20:12
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 24 2010, 12:31 PM) [snapback]701178[/snapback]
Same way we'd win by at least 2 clear goals yesterday?

Stop making predictions, they are usually wrong, and that makes me sad in this case sad.gif

I said 'by two clear goals', dwarf - not like you to twist the facts. rolleyes.gif Their penalty was a foul outside the box. If you'd been there you would understand.

I'll continue to make predictions, and my next is that you'll finally get your hole from a woman this year. wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-24 13:23:04
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 24 2010, 12:36 PM) [snapback]701180[/snapback]
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He made a good point, best go for the grammar


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No attempt at your puerile code boxes, dwarf - just plain and simple -you are an illiterate wee squid.
mortonjag 2010-01-24 13:24:24
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 24 2010, 12:53 PM) [snapback]701192[/snapback]
i thought brains were needed for movement and therefore are a defining characteristic of members of the kingdom animalia.

heh, that taxonomy course has come in useful at last.

Big doc is a starfish.
mortonjag 2010-01-24 13:25:41
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 24 2010, 01:23 PM) [snapback]701210[/snapback]
Funnily enough, last thing I remember last night was being on the phone to a bird while walking home.
Deego, was it you?

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mortonjag 2010-01-24 13:28:35
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 24 2010, 12:08 PM) [snapback]701168[/snapback]
the politics show, on now, will show results of a poll of voting intentions for macdonald's bill in its scottish segment.

edit - question was 'are you in favour, in principle, of the bill?' 90 responses from 127 MSPs - 17 in favour, 53 not, 20 don't know. feckin spineless pricks.

Agreed, and said spineless pricks would be the very ones trying to use their status to pressurise 'others' into helping out a loved one.

Low life scum.
mortonjag 2010-01-24 13:30:20
QUOTE(C B @ Jan 24 2010, 01:24 PM) [snapback]701213[/snapback]
I would never refer to Brian as a piece of furniture, well, maybe a coat stand

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He is a bit of a beanpole, but so was Joe Jordan until he discovered 'Frosties'.
mortonjag 2010-01-24 13:31:26
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 24 2010, 12:54 PM) [snapback]701193[/snapback]
Admission prices are available online.

If you think it is going to be expensive to go, don't go. That is the only way things will change.

Some f*ckin' supporter! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-24 13:34:14
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Jan 24 2010, 01:21 PM) [snapback]701208[/snapback]
Just confused why we can't discuss things that appear in the paper involving The Trust but can discuss Spoonsy incident and the fighting outside Scpa when both involved court cases as well.

I am more than happy to answer any question now and in the future about that great night, but I've already had posts removed, suspended and warned for doing so, so you see I'm at a loose end.



Hopefully we will soon be out of our suspenders. Hopefully the truth will soon emerge. Hopefully the Trust will survive.
mortonjag 2010-01-24 13:35:29
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 24 2010, 01:27 PM) [snapback]701216[/snapback]
Please don't predict that. We know you and predictions! dry.gif

Too late ya wee POUFFE - yer damned to being shagged by a wummin!
mortonjag 2010-01-24 13:37:57
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jan 24 2010, 01:36 PM) [snapback]701224[/snapback]
It's self-evident why it can't be discussed, but then you know that.

In fact there's similar requests not to post details every time there's a thread about someone getting attacked or done in, some requests even made by yourself.

The Weatherson thing wasn't discussed in any detail.

I trust you'd like the truth to emerge.
mortonjag 2010-01-24 13:39:39
QUOTE(Toby @ Jan 24 2010, 01:37 PM) [snapback]701225[/snapback]
Interesting to note that "The club and supporters have also stuck by me through a lot of bad times, a lot of barren spells."

I always felt that Weatherson's poor relationship with the supporters would've been pivotal in his summer departure, as seemed likely this time last week.

I've always felt that that was largely a myth propagated by a relatively small number of Spoonsy haters.
mortonjag 2010-01-24 13:40:58
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 24 2010, 01:39 PM) [snapback]701227[/snapback]
The Trust is in theory a good idea. Howver it really needs a good shake up in my opinion. As for suspenders I wonder if this is causing the hold up in the truth coming out.

Trussed. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-24 13:45:59
QUOTE(Toby @ Jan 24 2010, 01:41 PM) [snapback]701230[/snapback]
Wasn't it Weatherson himself that said he felt he wasn't appreciated enough, inspite of being one of the club's top ten post war goalscorers?

I don't know? When did he say that, and of whom and to whom, and in any case, would 'not being appreciated enough' equate with having a bad relationship?

I'm not trying to paint Spoonsy as anything that he is not - merely questioning what seems to be generally accepted - that he has a 'bad relationship' with the supporters.
mortonjag 2010-01-24 13:49:54
QUOTE(steveoath @ Jan 24 2010, 01:41 PM) [snapback]701231[/snapback]
Get off your high horse. Me and my family have stopped going to away games as the prices are ridiculous and I would hazard a guess that we're not the only ones. If people have a lot of disposal income then indulge by all means, but I'm not stretching myself to watch what is essentially sh1t football at preposterous prices!

Steve

What the f*ck are you wittering about? I was speaking to a single young dwarf with a decent salary and a disposable income which he happily chucks away on booze! ph34r.gif

Oh - and you ought to have said 'My family and I', if you'd wished credibility with literate posters. wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-24 13:59:32
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ Jan 24 2010, 01:54 PM) [snapback]701238[/snapback]
I ve given up going to must away games primarily for family reasons , but the admission prices plus the travelling costs involved can turn it into a very expensive day out. At first i found it irritating not going but now Im fairly used to it. For 10 years beforehand I went to virtually all games home and away. ive only been to 2 away games this season , Dundee and Partick.

Its unfair to blame Raith for charging £16. I believe football in general is well over priced. Cappielow is bad enough - and overpriced in my opinion - charging £15 to stand, then you have the Dundees of the division that charge you a kings ranson just to sit behind a goal and be treated like a third class citizen by the stewards.

There are far more things that are better value to spend hard earned cash on and it certianly doesnt make me any less of a Morton supporter to do so.

JB.

Each 'fan' must establish his own priorities.
mortonjag 2010-01-24 14:03:50
QUOTE(Toby @ Jan 24 2010, 01:57 PM) [snapback]701242[/snapback]
I genuinely don't know where I read it, but I'm pretty sure it was in the last year. Since reading that's I've always been of that opinion.

I have however always had an inkling that there was a "them and us" attitude since one of my mates pointed out that players' reaction to a 3-0 win at Alloa en route to winning the 2nd Division, when they just turned and went doen the tunnel without even looking towards the crowd, and I've never felt things have moved on from there.

Don't know why others' feel that (0-5 at Airdrie?), but that's always the belief I've had.

Given that it takes two to tango, and that those alleged incidents are in the past, it may be time simply to move on. So far as I could hear yesterday 'There's only one Peter', and I could swear I've heard that many times before.
mortonjag 2010-01-24 14:07:14
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ Jan 24 2010, 02:03 PM) [snapback]701247[/snapback]
Correct mortonjag.

In any walk of life i am sure you would agree that your family and the general well being of them would be the main priority. After that other entertainment activities can literally come into play.

JB.

Indeed - I was recently repeatedly pilloried by a poster (who knows who he is) to divulge my whereabouts during the HS and 'Save the Ton' days. During those dark times I was literally unable to get to Morton matches - nothing to do with money I may add.
mortonjag 2010-01-24 14:25:59
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jan 24 2010, 02:17 PM) [snapback]701260[/snapback]
Why not contact the people who ARE involved then? blink.gif blink.gif

So far as I can see, this is the question originally posed:

So, I just wanted to know how we plan to attract teenagers, who have been coached elsewhere, to come across to the new Academy.

So far as my English comprehension allows, I'd suggest that the highlighted 'we' is the clue. It is (to me at least) a legitimate question posed to 'us', and I assume that 'we' are all who are interested in the well being of 'OUR' club.

WHY is it that every time legitimate questions are posed of the Club or the Trussed on this FANS' MESSAGE BOARD, some smart ass comes up with the same mindless riposte?
mortonjag 2010-01-24 14:35:00
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 24 2010, 02:05 PM) [snapback]701250[/snapback]
Given some of the vitriol on here from the pro-murder lobby I'd suggest they're actually showing some spine by opposing it. rolleyes.gif

Vitriol!

Well perhaps I was a wee bit acidic. You deserved it for your stupidity as further evinced by the term 'pro-murder lobby'. If the 'close relative' whose tragic death you described so graphically had wished help to end the misery, I assume you'd have been opposed to that.
mortonjag 2010-01-24 14:41:11

QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jan 24 2010, 02:34 PM) [snapback]701272[/snapback]
Now now doc, no need for name calling.
your right though. this is a FANS Message board and a huge part of being a fan means supporting your club whereas you seem to put a lot of thought into trying to undermine the club and gladly telling everyone that your 'in the know' when something goes wrong wink.gif
As for repeating the same stupid questions. Your good at that so Im sure you dont need an answer.

A huge part of being a fan of Greenock Morton (for me at least) is wanting genuine success and reinstatement to parity with clubs like Falkirk, St Mirren, St Johnstone etc.

If I see anything which I feel mitigates against that I will most certainly ask questions, and if you and your ilk are too thick to understand that pandering to the establishment is detrimental, I guess you are beyond convincing!
mortonjag 2010-01-24 14:44:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 24 2010, 02:33 PM) [snapback]701271[/snapback]
Spend £30 on a night out and have a really good time. Spend that going to an away game on travel and getting in.
And I am meant to be the stupid one here?

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I had a really good time at Kirkcaldy yesterday, but again I AM a Morton supporter.

It's your choice dwarf. By their deeds shall ye know them! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-24 15:30:25
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 24 2010, 02:46 PM) [snapback]701278[/snapback]
Funny way of showing it on here!

Basically like having a pet and kicking it whenever it does something you don't like.

That poor greyhound sad.gif

A totally flawed analogy and nothing less than I've come to expect from you, dwarf.

Perhaps being unwilling to accept an autocrat pishing all over our collective faces would be nearer the mark, though you 'd presumably slurp it down with unbridled glee and ask for more. dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-24 15:32:26
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 24 2010, 02:58 PM) [snapback]701283[/snapback]
Were you there the day half the away support sang "Peter, get to ****" at Dumbarton as we went 3-0 down and he was subbed off?

Yes.
mortonjag 2010-01-24 15:37:55
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 24 2010, 03:36 PM) [snapback]701301[/snapback]
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I see you didn't win that dictionary BTW!
mortonjag 2010-01-24 15:47:59
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 24 2010, 02:43 PM) [snapback]701276[/snapback]
Asking questions on an unofficial message board and never actually going to events were these questions can be asked directly at those who can answer.
And yes...the poor English is on purpose, just to make reading the truth that little bit more annoying for you

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There is absolutely no need to resort to lies, dwarf. That was an extremely silly thing to say, because I shall now scrutinise your posts even more diligently!

I do not ask questions unless I have a reasonable chance of getting a reasonable answer. Those who ask questions of Douglas Rae expecting honest answers are liable to be disappointed.

I can't imagine anybody else you may have been thinking of. Mr Rae has not contacted me so far, though I have had emails and personal messages from the Chief Executive and from two directors on separate occasions, not in response to direct questions to them, but because of questions asked on this pubic massage board.
mortonjag 2010-01-24 15:52:14
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Jan 24 2010, 03:38 PM) [snapback]701303[/snapback]
will you two give it a rest please?

I would dearly love him to give it a rest! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-24 16:46:47
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Jan 24 2010, 04:17 PM) [snapback]701336[/snapback]
very clever wee baws

forgot about you, you are also another reason this messageboard is s***e these days

welcome to my ignore list

Are you the Pope?
mortonjag 2010-01-24 16:56:47
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 24 2010, 04:26 PM) [snapback]701344[/snapback]
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It's funny you take exception to that while those opposing the assisted suicide bill on this thread have been called, among other things, 'brain damaged', 'spineless pricks', 'low life scum', and having 'bizarre medievel morality', and that seems to be perfectly OK in your book. rolleyes.gif Have a word with yourself.

I've given my reasons for opposing the bill and if that makes me any or all of the above then so be it, though I'd be more likely to be pursuaded otherwise by power of argument rather than personal abuse.

We've been here before ya wee saddo. Personal abuse - aye right. The yellow bellied scum who masquerade as humanity at Holyrood deserve all the abuse they get. You've had absolutely none. When it comes to this topic you are clearly ill informed, BUT WILLING TO BUY INTO AIRY FAIRY NOTIONS ABOUT SANE PEOPLE BEING 'PRESSURISED' INTO KILLING THEMSELVES. When I questioned your knowledge of terminal illness, you produced some close relative who apparently died a long painful death, something you would clearly have wished rather than an early voluntary release. For that patent and crass contradiction I have described you as illogical and naive. That is not personal abuse.

As I've been forced to say before when you've embarked on those self indulgent devil's advocacy trips -grow up please. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-24 17:08:50
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 24 2010, 05:01 PM) [snapback]701370[/snapback]
So, you're only 'brain damaged', a 'spineless ****', 'low life scum', and have 'bizarre medievel morality' if you're a MSP that opposes the Bill?

Aye right, nice try. laugh.gif

I certainly did not describe you in those terms! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-24 17:10:56
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 24 2010, 04:51 PM) [snapback]701361[/snapback]
No if he was then we would all be invited round for a wee chat. I think it might be somebody far more important than that geezer. I think it maybe ...... The Shooglemeister himself.

Do you really think so? If he's not the Pope maybe he's just a Headmaster or something! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-24 17:15:00
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Jan 24 2010, 03:29 PM) [snapback]701292[/snapback]
Jonaton's report was good and accurate, but "The old dear hunter" was right about his yellow card, "stupid Boy"
It Would have been better to sub Jenkins with big Erik.

Foobs

Why?
mortonjag 2010-01-24 17:20:23
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 24 2010, 05:17 PM) [snapback]701383[/snapback]
Wow wow wow, let me stop you right there.

What right does anyone have to decide a person who has Downs Syndrome is not worthy of life? Sorry if you think this is just my medieval morality coming to the fore, but killing people with Downs Syndrome in a civilised society is just an outrageous and obscene thing to do.

I know there's always a point in messageboard discussions where someone's point of view is compared to Nazism, and surely killing people with mental disabilities is worthy of that comparison.

Honestly, that is just mental.

The poster has yet to say that Downs Syndrome was the only reason for the action! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-24 17:29:32
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 24 2010, 05:21 PM) [snapback]701387[/snapback]
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Away and don't talk pish, the tone was lowered long before I made that comment. All sorts of abuse handed out against those opposing the bill, and now the avocation of killing folk with Downs Syndrome, and you get a petted lip of that. Like I said, have a word with yourself. rolleyes.gif

You have described end of life assistance as murder, and those who support the bill as being party to murder.

Nobody received any personal abuse.

Leyton pointed out correctly that the majority of politicians who will vote 'against' secretly think the idea is acceptable.

That immorality on the part of 'elected representatives' is an indictment of the shallow pragmatism of politics and deserves every bit of abuse it can receive.

You still have not said if you'd have been party to 'murdering' your relative who from your graphic description died in prolonged and agonising circumstances.

More procrustean tactics, or an honest answer? It is a serious matter even if you think otherwise.
mortonjag 2010-01-24 17:36:00
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 24 2010, 05:33 PM) [snapback]701400[/snapback]
Same argument applies. If he was not capable of understanding and giving his consent to having his life ended, what right did his mother or anyone else for that matter have to make that decision for him?

Do you believe that end of life assistance as proposed by Margo McDonald's Bill is murder?
mortonjag 2010-01-24 17:38:51
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 24 2010, 03:48 PM) [snapback]701312[/snapback]
Who gives a **** ya wee pedantic ****.

Do you think when I blindly copy and pasted I was concerned whether it was true or not. dry.gif
You will be happy to know I still don't care if it's true or not.

You've just had a taste of what I get about ten times every day from that waste of space. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-24 17:44:47
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 24 2010, 05:38 PM) [snapback]701407[/snapback]
Is killing someone who is incapable of consenting to it murder?

You got upset because I described you as naive and illogical, and have now proved me correct with that ridiculously transparent body swerve! laugh.gif

Do you regard end of life assistance as proposed in Margo McDonald's Bill as murder? If you can't give a 'yes or no' answer, why did you describe those in favour of it as 'pro-murder'?
mortonjag 2010-01-24 17:46:17
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 24 2010, 05:44 PM) [snapback]701413[/snapback]
Deary me. sad.gif

You actually are saying people with mental disabilities are not worthy of life and should be killed, aren't you?

Shocking, absolutely shocking, I think I'm going to have to leave you guys to it, have fun.

We'll be waiting for you ya wee baw bag! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-24 17:54:54
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Jan 24 2010, 05:39 PM) [snapback]701408[/snapback]
Foul for the penalty was definitely outside the box.

Yip - 2-0 to the mighty Ton! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-24 17:56:36
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 24 2010, 05:13 PM) [snapback]701381[/snapback]
Shame on you for castigating a noble an honourable man. The heidy is a well respected pillar of our community. No it looks like the Candy man to me.

Not the Moderator then?

(In Church terms of course) unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-24 17:58:13
QUOTE(StillTON @ Jan 24 2010, 05:35 PM) [snapback]701401[/snapback]
Thats because at cappielow we sell OXO! laugh.gif

Isn't it called Bovril on the tariff? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-24 18:01:26
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Jan 24 2010, 05:59 PM) [snapback]701420[/snapback]
If you support euthanasia then you support Nazism. dry.gif

Brussels sprouts produce the foulest flatus.
mortonjag 2010-01-24 18:03:05
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 24 2010, 06:00 PM) [snapback]701421[/snapback]
I'm staggered that they've given a penalty there... the foul was committed almost a yard outside the box!

It may have been mentioned on the other threads. I thought Crawford Allan's performance yesterday was outstandingly poor.
mortonjag 2010-01-24 18:05:42
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 24 2010, 06:02 PM) [snapback]701424[/snapback]
That's just silly.

Killing people with mental disabilities was part of Nazi ideology.

I'm tempted to suggest that you'll be happy you were born when you were! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-24 18:08:15
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 24 2010, 06:06 PM) [snapback]701428[/snapback]
You just did and it's not funny. dry.gif

Nor is your bottling out of answering sincere questions on the relevant thread! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-24 18:18:40
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Jan 24 2010, 05:46 PM) [snapback]701415[/snapback]
We'll be waiting for you ya wee baw bag! ph34r.gif

He's not coming back apparently. He's quite happy to call decent people murderers while girning his wee face off about imagined personal abuse. He refuses to answer straight questions, and here's his pathetic excuse!

The thread where some are advocating that it should be made legal to terminate the lives of people with mental disabilities, do you mean?

Sorry, I like a robust exchange of opinions on most subjects, but that thread was going in a very sinister direction I found pretty distasteful, so it's not for me I'm afraid
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As I said, a wee bawbag, and with a nasty streak too if you ask me. mellow.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-24 18:23:34
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Jan 24 2010, 06:13 PM) [snapback]701431[/snapback]
I didn't advocate anything wink.gif, you merely took my words out of it's context and twisted them to suit your argument smile.gif.

As was obvious to everybody but he's now using you as an excuse for bottling out of answering honest questions. He thinks it's OK to call decent folk murderers and get off with it.

Anyway I've copied and pasted his pathetic tripe onto the main thread just so that folk can see him for what he is.
mortonjag 2010-01-24 18:37:13
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 24 2010, 06:28 PM) [snapback]701438[/snapback]
You said that people with mental disabilities may not want to continue living as a second class citizen.

I deliberately came out of that thread to avoid getting into such a discussion, but since you're insisting on continuing it on this thread let me explain why that statement is so sinister and frankly offensive.

Firstly it presupposes that people with mental disabilities are capable of giving their consent to their life being terminated, which due to their condition is of course impossible. So that being the case, the decision would have to be made for them, and IMO no human being has the right to decide another human being's life is not worth living.

Secondly, people with mental disabilities are not 'second class citizens'.

I've really go no wish to continue discussing this with you, so can we drop it now?

I'm going to venture the possibility that YOU ARE A LIAR! I believe you bottled out, having made a complete fool of yourself.

I will, however, give you the chance to answer my question here. It has nothing to do with mental disability. and IT RELATES DIRECTLY TO YOUR TERM 'PRO-MURDER LOBBY'.

DO YOU regard end of life assistance as proposed in Margo McDonald's Bill as murder?
mortonjag 2010-01-24 18:52:47
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 24 2010, 06:40 PM) [snapback]701441[/snapback]
No, not as proposed in the Bill.

But I do think it could open up a can of worms that may lead in some situations where murder would be committed in all but name where vulnerable people are pressurised into giving their consent against their will.

A can of worms! laugh.gif laugh.gif

You're indeed a slippery wee soul. The Bill goes to extraordinary lengths to ensure that there is ABSOLUTE AND INFORMED consent and only on the part of SANE people.

The only involvement with worms for those souls will come after they mercifully have their right to terminate their own lives enforced.

Nothing is ever perfect or foolproof, but as I said way back on the thread that you're scared to re-enter, arguing the general from the particular is the realm of the naive and brain damaged.

Arguing just for the sake of it can be real fun, but I don't think euthanasia is a topic to be treated lightly, and I believe that's exactly what you were attempting to do. If you are really sincere about all this 'can of worms' stuff, have the baws to get back in there and argue your corner.
mortonjag 2010-01-24 19:05:14
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 24 2010, 06:54 PM) [snapback]701448[/snapback]
Yes OK then, I retract it.

I assume now you'll actively pursue the posters who referred to those who oppose the bill as 'brain damaged', 'spineless pricks' and 'low life scum' and ask them for a retraction?

No thought not.

I used the term 'brain damaged' in relation to a propensity for arguing the general from the particular. I was not holding that omission against brain damaged people nor did I intend to.

I accurately used the term 'low life scum', specifically in relation to elected representatives who will vote against their consciences for expediency, and because THEY ARE LOW LIFE SCUM.

Somebody else referred to the same group as 'spineless pricks'. That slightly colourful term is in my opinion letting those low life scum off the hook too easily.

Now that that's been cleared up (or to put it differently your latest body swerve has failed) - have you the baws to get back onto the main thread and explain away your 'can of worms' comment?

I've just espied your later post. Folk just won't buy that crap. You don't have to say a word about mental disability AS YOU VERY WELL KNOW. You willingly entered the debate with your hallmark smartass 'red herring' argument, and your 'can of worms' comment still requires explanation.
mortonjag 2010-01-24 19:48:33
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 24 2010, 07:09 PM) [snapback]701457[/snapback]
Aye very good Jaggy, whatever you say.

No, I'm not rejoining the debate on the original thread for the reasons given above - i.e. it's moved on from discussing the bill into areas much more sinister and disturbing, and it's not for me, simple as that.

OK. That's your absolute prerogative. Your 'can of worms' comment is delete, and I'll paste your explanation for you.
mortonjag 2010-01-24 19:52:48
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 24 2010, 06:58 PM) [snapback]701451[/snapback]
you are a ****ing nutter.

Indeed I am, and still brighter than you and your wee Brussels buddy put together! wub.gif

Talk about being gracious in defeat - here's what he said -

No, I'm not rejoining the debate on the original thread for the reasons given above - i.e. it's moved on from discussing the bill into areas much more sinister and disturbing, and it's not for me, simple as that[attachment=6367:fing36_1_.gif]

mortonjag 2010-01-24 19:56:20
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 24 2010, 07:46 PM) [snapback]701466[/snapback]
I thought that he did not really get the opportunity yesterday to show what he can do due to the ploughed field we were playing on. I was quite surprised by the team selection as we did not start with a holding midfielder and Jenkins had to fill that role which he was not very good at, hence the lack of forward runs. I would have started either Paartalu or MacFarlane alongside Tidser or Jenkins. Incidentally, MJ's remark that Jenkins became more dangerous when Paartalu came on is only partially correct. It was Jenkins forward run into the box twhich gave McAllister the out ball for his run and Jenkins touch to Peter that set up the 2nd goal.

Even though we lost a dubious penalty after Paartalu came on, for all that we did look more secure.

I was not wildly impressed yesterday, even allowing for the conditions but I will reserve judgement to allow the boy to gain match fitness and also to see him on the Cappielow surface.

I already mentioned that elsewhere - I thought the substitution had already been made, but it was indeed three minutes later!
mortonjag 2010-01-24 20:01:34
QUOTE(Yoda @ Jan 23 2010, 01:36 PM) [snapback]700662[/snapback]
At the risk of appearing incredibly thick - is it bottled and shipped or shipped and bottled. I've just never thought before, I only drink the stuff. I'd imagine it's shipped and bottled, but is there not something about it having to be bottled where produced? Worse still is it concentrate and watered down, like most beers and lagers which are just different % water added to solution at caning - oh I've given myself a headache now.... laugh.gif

Whip round and piss up?
mortonjag 2010-01-24 20:05:36
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jan 24 2010, 07:58 PM) [snapback]701474[/snapback]
One thing is certain - MSP's will not be taking guidance from the likes of greenockmorton.org! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Political expediency dictates that this bill might very well be killed off early without a hint of irony involved. Politicians only fear the electorate when an election is pending - they try to build coalitions and seek wide spread agreement on the burning issues of the day. Put an emotive issue such as this, and the emotions can already be seen on this thread, in front of them and many of them will run for cover. It is still early days in the process but already the Catholic Church has came out (No - not like that!) against the bill. I would expect a few other pro life organisations and religious groups to be adding their tuppence worth quite soon. It is unfortunate that these so called icons of morality get the press coverage that they do not deserve.

I am fully behind the bill. I think that Margo MacDonald has put in a lot of research and thought into the processes and that there are enough safeguards within the bill to make it workable. Like all other legislation it should be reviewed on a regular basis to see if there are any further safeguards that can be enacted.

If you are of the same opinion then might I humbly suggest that you e-mail your local MSP and the regional list members for your area to get their opinions on it and to canvass for their support. If enough people did this then it may help to change a few minds on the issue. If, like me, you have already did this then good on you. It is all very well to talk about feckless politicians but until we actually get democracy in this country we have to try to work with those who have been elected.

Good points Dave.

We've as much chance of getting democracy in this country as we have of getting a straight answer from Shoogly or another Stars of 79 bash.
mortonjag 2010-01-24 20:22:45
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Jan 24 2010, 08:11 PM) [snapback]701480[/snapback]
Bloody hell, the pitch looks worse in that video than it actually did at the game!

Yip - it explains some of our bizarre passing in the first period.
mortonjag 2010-01-24 20:23:49
QUOTE(StillTON @ Jan 24 2010, 08:16 PM) [snapback]701485[/snapback]
Nothing like a morton fan still enjoyihg the this weekend and lookjng forward to next weekend!
As a fan I believe that we will finish at least mid table.

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mortonjag 2010-01-24 20:29:49
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 24 2010, 08:03 PM) [snapback]701476[/snapback]
i'm not talking about his argument, or anything he said. i'm talking about you being an unpleasant wee loonball with a titanic ego problem. there's probably a german word that describes you exactly, maybe something like bombastischverrücktenvertrauenschpielzeughund. or arschloch.

We haven't met yet Honey Pie! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-24 20:43:03
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 24 2010, 02:09 PM) [snapback]701252[/snapback]
the first could've been written today, and the second is one of the most amazing stories you'll ever find. honestly, the master and margarita is one of the best books ever written.

I believe the King James version of the Holy Bible is an absolutely fascinating tome. It has everything you could wish for in a book, and unlike most modern stuff it can be read either as an instruction manual or merely as light entertainment.

It's just crammed with exciting stories, and the Psalms of David take some beating, particularly the 23rd - such beautiful words:

The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want. He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake. Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over. Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.

I know that folk tend to be sceptical about religion/s but just as a damned good read this book comes highly recommended.
mortonjag 2010-01-24 20:46:07
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jan 24 2010, 08:43 PM) [snapback]701494[/snapback]
You nearly wrote a decent post there until you started the petty name calling rolleyes.gif

Paranoia rules Blue. Read it again and search for the very small word with the very big meaning! wub.gif

mortonjag 2010-01-24 21:07:09
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 24 2010, 09:04 PM) [snapback]701500[/snapback]
david is a cracking character. kings is my favourite book in the bible.

The book of Revelation is something of a misnomer. Full of strange concepts and almost 'Sci Fi' in parts.
mortonjag 2010-01-24 21:09:06
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jan 24 2010, 09:08 PM) [snapback]701504[/snapback]
This King James dude, is he in any way related to King, Stephen?

Possibly.
mortonjag 2010-01-24 21:22:32
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 24 2010, 09:15 PM) [snapback]701510[/snapback]
Oh, don't get me wrong, so do I. It's the 3pts that matter most next weekend because if we get those then we open up a 10pt gap over Airdrie and, with any luck, we'll close the gap further on Raith.

Yip only two or three more victories and JG will be the best thing since sliced bread! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-24 21:24:22
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 24 2010, 09:13 PM) [snapback]701508[/snapback]
How many PMBs on controversial issues pass?

You can compare quite easily to the removal of Section 28, which was supported by the then coalition, and was legislated.

What do you think of the Bill itself?
mortonjag 2010-01-25 07:47:47
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 24 2010, 10:59 PM) [snapback]701531[/snapback]
And so say I, but for feck's sake CHC, we've got to stop agreeing like this.

You oppose the Bill, Edwards?

Have you read it?
mortonjag 2010-01-25 07:56:00
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 25 2010, 07:09 AM) [snapback]701567[/snapback]
Kes is a great film, I 've not seen Looking For Eric and Sweet 16 was badly written, badly acted keech. I did think Loach would be right up your lovey, lefty street though Edwards. tongue.gif

I only watched that crap because somebody told me it was shot in Greenock and contained a Morton footballer. As I said earlier, Loach and similar 'socialists' are merely soldiers of convenience stealing a march up the road of capitalism.

Socialism is a concept. Capitalism is a reflection of man's natural desire to survive.

Edwards is a conundrum who doesn't want put out of his misery, or is this the wrong thread?
mortonjag 2010-01-25 07:58:38
QUOTE(longboat @ Jan 24 2010, 11:15 PM) [snapback]701533[/snapback]
How come an ex 2nd Division Club can have such a good highlights package? Puts our extensive Morton TV to shame. unsure.gif

We are an ex 3rd division club.
mortonjag 2010-01-25 08:02:34
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 24 2010, 11:57 PM) [snapback]701543[/snapback]
I agree we were a bit lucky and Raith had far more chances. Maybe though we are due a wee bit of luck as we have not had much since Grady took over. How many games have we had more chances than the opposition and lost? I recall quite a few including, for example, Ross County and Dundee at Cappielow or Partick away recently.

Also I see that we have played the fewest home games of any team in the league. We've played 20 games of which only 8 have been at Cappielow. Thats ten home games left, including 2 against Ayr, one against Airdrie and one against Raith. If next week's signings come off, I can see us beating anyone in this league at Cappielow

Chances to score? I don't recall Stewart having to save one definite goalbound effort. After their 'penalty' (from a Ref having a dreadful day) their tails went up and they forced a series of corners near the end. Over the whole game I didn't think they were any better than us.
mortonjag 2010-01-25 08:04:16
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 24 2010, 09:43 PM) [snapback]701515[/snapback]
Well, we all know how fickle some folk on this board can be. wink.gif

Fickle is bad enough, but thickle seems to apply to about 75% of posters.
mortonjag 2010-01-25 08:07:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 25 2010, 01:50 AM) [snapback]701556[/snapback]
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Of course the Trust will survive.

It has its shares in the Ton and no liabilities.

It is and always has been a viable organisation.

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Are they going to slap on a conservation order! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 08:09:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 25 2010, 05:01 AM) [snapback]701565[/snapback]
IMHO, nowhere as good as Cassius Clay.

When our coalman's lorry came round the corner, my Mum used to say, 'Here's Black Bob'.
mortonjag 2010-01-25 09:26:36 Wee, sleekit, cowran, tim'rous beastie
O, what a panic's in thy breastie!
Thou need na start awa sae hasty,
Wi' bickering brattle!
Jag wad be laith to rin an' chase thee,
Wi Monkey's rattle

I'm truly sorry Rae's dominion,
Has broken Morton's social union,
An justifies that ill opinion,
Which makes thee startle
At me, thy Greenock born companion
An fellow mortal

I doubt na, whyles, but thou may thieve;
What then? poor beastie, thou maun live
A daimen-icker in a thrave's a sma' request:
Rae'll get a blessin wi' the lave
An never miss't!

Thy wee-bit housie, too, in ruin!
Its silly wa's the winds are strewin!
An naething, now, to big a new ane,
O' foggage green!
An' February's winds ensuin,
Baith snell an' keen!

But Mousie, thou are no thy-lane
In proving foresight may be vain:
The best laid schemes o' Mice an' Men
Gang aft agley,
An lea'e us nought but grief an' pain,
For promis'd joy

Still thou art blest compar'd wi' me!
The present only toucheth thee:
But Jag can cast a backward e'e,
On prospects drear!
An' forward tho' he canna see
He'll guess an' fear.

mortonjag 2010-01-25 09:31:42
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 25 2010, 09:27 AM) [snapback]701587[/snapback]
In open play they were no better than us. In fact I thought we shaded it in that respect but there's no doubt they had more chances than us. That Stewart did not have more saves to make was down to their poor finishing rather than a lack of clear chances.

In the first half they hit the bar plus their full back should have scored on one of the very few occasions when our defence was all over the place and Reid was left trying to cover about three of them. Fortunately the man put the ball a couple of feet past Stewart's left hand post.

I agree that their penalty was clearly not in the box as revealed by the video but they could have had one towards the end of the first half when imho Shimmin took all of their man and none of the ball in the box.

In the second half, Stewart had one save where he smothered the ball from a one on one. Towards the end the ball broke through from the right to a totally unmarked guy around the left side (as we looked at it) of our box. He tried to fire across the keeper but fortunately put it wide.

They definitely had their chances - watch the video!

Who cares? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 09:33:17
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 25 2010, 08:48 AM) [snapback]701579[/snapback]
And so you misunderstand, like you never fail to do. biggrin.gif
Not by you Harold, nor by anybody for that matter. I demand the right to suffer. tongue.gif

A right which is patently being well satisfied! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 09:35:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 25 2010, 08:57 AM) [snapback]701582[/snapback]
Yes and yes Harold. Did you insert the clause calling for compulsory euthanasia in certain cases? Like Shoogly for instance? tongue.gif

I don't think it's a matter for jocularity Mr Edwards. That clause was only inserted after careful scrutiny by two other doctors and a psychiatrist.
mortonjag 2010-01-25 09:36:25
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 25 2010, 09:04 AM) [snapback]701584[/snapback]
Is it time for you two to get a room ... or a cellar ?

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mortonjag 2010-01-25 10:08:03
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jan 25 2010, 09:58 AM) [snapback]701597[/snapback]
for all those who think supporting your team means NOT asking questions and blindly following someone elses path to glory... ( i know someone will complain about the comparison i'm going to make.. but if you are going to.. fyi.. i dont give a **** )... the so called bfitw at celtic park, have been demonstrating this season about the limited success they have had on the park, attacks on both management and directors/owner... AND THEY ARE SECOND IN THE SPL... why shouldnt fans who genuinely want success for their club voice their opinions, or ask questions... WHAT IS IT THAT SOME ON HERE FEEL THE NEED TO HIDE ??? let the people ask the questions.. if there was better communication and INFORMATION coming from cappielow then this wouldnt be an issue... WHY DOES THE CLUB NOT COMMUNICATE WITH THE FANS.. WHAT IS BEING HIDDEN.. or is the club being run as someones AFTER THOUGHT ?... Morton are standing still, and in lots of ways SLIDING BACKWARDS.. maybe it's time for a fans protest.. just like the rangers ans celtic fans have done this season.. to let the club's custodians know that their CUSTOMERS are NOT HAPPY.

So good you said it twice and I entirely agree with you!
mortonjag 2010-01-25 11:58:47
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 25 2010, 11:53 AM) [snapback]701639[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2010-01-25 12:04:47
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jan 25 2010, 08:50 AM) [snapback]701581[/snapback]
I think it was just us being crap and not adjusting to conditions.

We won 2-0! (Nothing we could do about the gift from an abysmal ref).

That'll do me fine. dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 12:10:43
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jan 25 2010, 10:50 AM) [snapback]701604[/snapback]
is it time morton fans starting making the board aware of how s***e we are..? are we going to continually suffer the lack of ambition from the club... the lack of information... the lack of respect.... someone paint up a banner please.

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Well Warrior, you've rumbled up a few sad shooglyphile fuds already. Funny how the same culprits always knee jerk at criticism of the club.

As for your banner - I don't think it would make any difference to him who listens but does not hear and who looks but cannot see.

Offer him £2 million for the club (in readies of course). There's a good fellow. blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 12:17:31 I think that in general the Mods do a reasonable job.

There is no doubt in my mind, though, that an unmoderated message board WOULD allow for more searching criticism of the establishment.
mortonjag 2010-01-25 12:19:49
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 25 2010, 12:16 PM) [snapback]701653[/snapback]
laugh.gif He's "rumbled up" nobody at all, and well you know it - he's being laughed at.

Just as YOU are laughed at for calling everyone who doesn't share your personal hatred of Rae a "sad shooglyphile fud". Look in the mirror, moronjag - YOU'RE the sad shooglyphile fud.
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By shooglyphile fuds who don't know any better ya daft plamf. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 12:21:46
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 25 2010, 12:20 PM) [snapback]701657[/snapback]
I really wish you would stop referring to yourself in the third person, it gets quite wearing.

I was referring to the two faced muffler of Cappielow. You knew that of course ya daft plamf! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 12:23:00
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Jan 25 2010, 12:21 PM) [snapback]701659[/snapback]
Aye, he also has the "Moron of the Decade" award, and it only started 25 days ago! happy.gif

Would you prefer individual flags to the banner? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 12:24:25
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 25 2010, 12:23 PM) [snapback]701662[/snapback]
are you really pledging your support (shouldn't you be wearing it yourself?) to cowshed_warrior? laugh.gif

That says quite a lot, actually.......

I pledge my support to nobody ya daft plamf! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 12:25:52
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 25 2010, 12:02 PM) [snapback]701645[/snapback]
Morris Stevenson

Billy Gray

Willie Allan


Marko Rajamaki

Neil Orr
Anybody know?

If you can recall those three you are too old to behave like a daft plamf! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 12:28:48
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jan 25 2010, 12:21 PM) [snapback]701658[/snapback]
It's been nearly three hours since you made the embarrassing mistake of posting that. Dear God man, where's your dignity and why have you not deleted it yet?

Don't attempt to patronise me! dry.gif

QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 25 2010, 12:25 PM) [snapback]701665[/snapback]
You need to talk to somebody Ernie, you're absolutely barking.

TonInDublin

Far from it - it's Mr Burns' birthday today and I love that wee poem. I've merely adjusted it slightly to reflect the current situation with the trussed. smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 12:31:41
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 25 2010, 12:26 PM) [snapback]701667[/snapback]
oh, so you ARE wearing it then!

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More gibberish ya daft plamf. laugh.gif
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jan 25 2010, 12:26 PM) [snapback]701668[/snapback]
I thought people like you only came on the Board after a defeat. Why don't you just f*ck off up the road to Castle Greyskull or the Tattiedrome - you won't be missed. mad.gif

What an intelligent comment! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 12:34:16
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 25 2010, 12:31 PM) [snapback]701672[/snapback]
that's more like it!
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No ya daft plamf that's NOT more like it.

Are you fishing again? dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 12:39:47
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 25 2010, 12:33 PM) [snapback]701675[/snapback]
THAT'S the secret - get rid of the quote and your post almost makes sense! happy.gif

Listen ya daft plamf, does it really become a man of your age to stalk the Jag like Puggsy does?

It's a serious question. Sometimes you can be really amusing - I often relate to your lateral thinking and ability with puns, but in attempting to undermine/ discredit/ Mortonjag, you are merely taking over where many others have failed.

By all means keep it up and we'll see who tires first! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 12:46:59
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 25 2010, 12:39 PM) [snapback]701678[/snapback]
Of COURSE he doctored it.

Where it says "I" should read "we".

Never, EVER take anything moronjag says regarding the club as beinghonest or factual. He's a twisted auld fud where Rae is concerned.

Retract that statement or prove it please. Don't try to laugh it off either, nor make the usual cop out excuse that you were only 'fishing'.
I could of course have crept to the Mods behind your back.

mortonjag 2010-01-25 12:51:51
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 25 2010, 12:44 PM) [snapback]701681[/snapback]
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Is it really dignified behaviour for a man of your age to be stalking Douglas Rae the way you do?

And what makes you think that those "many others" have failed? Aren't you aware of the general opinion of you on here?? AAAHH, the power of self-delusion.......

The board's yours for a while, I'm going for lunch - try not to piss too many people off!

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Still stalking the Jag I see. When will you grow up?



mortonjag 2010-01-25 12:52:54
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 25 2010, 12:27 PM) [snapback]701669[/snapback]
.......and that's why I don't. Try it sometime.

You do.
mortonjag 2010-01-25 12:55:19
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jan 25 2010, 12:43 PM) [snapback]701680[/snapback]
O wad some Power the giftie gie us to see oursels as ithers see us!

Ipse dixit!
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mortonjag 2010-01-25 13:13:05
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jan 25 2010, 01:04 PM) [snapback]701688[/snapback]
Why ?

Because it's offensive coming from somebody who couldn't understand a non offensive post, clyped to the Mods, and promised he'd put Mortonjag on 'ignore'.
mortonjag 2010-01-25 13:28:50


QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 25 2010, 01:20 PM) [snapback]701699[/snapback]
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Read it again, and stop being so stupid.

The sentence advises someone never to take what you say on here as being automatically honest or factual, much as you say about yourself in your very own profile on this site.

It does not accuse you of anything; it merely offers advice to another poster that is good advice to anyone on here with regard to anything posted.

There's also the fact that you DID post something that you had doctored and presented it as being an accurate quote, giving no warning that you had altered it to change the tenor of the statement.

Ergo, there is nothing to retract. Or prove.

And you should know that, if you're as smart as you keep telling us all you are.

Therefore, away and chase yerself.




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Thank you. I was beginning to worry.
mortonjag 2010-01-25 13:35:37
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 25 2010, 01:33 PM) [snapback]701708[/snapback]
Real_Hoops is quiteright - you're really beginning to embarrass yourself on here now; you go on and on ad nauseum like some bride who was jilted at the altar and is sueing for breach of promise. I hope you didn't spend too long on that doggerell, as I seriously doubt that anyone will have read past the middle of the second stanza. The first was enough for me; as soon as I realised you weren't posting the original poem and were instead slating your usual targets I tuned out.

Get a life, doc. There's one out there for you somewhere.

Still stalking! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 13:39:57
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 25 2010, 01:35 PM) [snapback]701709[/snapback]
Something like this ?

or this?
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mortonjag 2010-01-25 13:56:01
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jan 25 2010, 01:53 PM) [snapback]701716[/snapback]
this thread really is a load of p1sh, why would we want to go and protest in the first place?

rae has his faultslike everyone else.

jg and am have thier faults but give them time.

the team has its fault but let the management build thier own side and then do what you want if it aint workin out.

so what would the basis be for your protest warrior?

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mortonjag 2010-01-25 14:04:06 BLIAR!
mortonjag 2010-01-25 14:28:33
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 25 2010, 02:19 PM) [snapback]701727[/snapback]
Nae need for you to worry your petty little head about it, doc.

You were wrong that's all. It's happened so often on here that I'm sure you're used to it by now.


I have been wrong once or twice in my life. To which particular omission were you alluding when you called me a liar?
mortonjag 2010-01-25 14:30:03
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 25 2010, 02:29 PM) [snapback]701730[/snapback]
Aye, your opinion of him is all that counts. Never mind that he's consistently been our top scorer, even in one season when playingprimarily in defence; never mind that he covers every blade of grass in every game (who was right on the line when Samaras palmed the ball into the net on Tuesday? Peter Weatherson) and nevermind that he scored the goals that got us all three points at the weekend - you don't rate him, so he must be crap, right?

And re the Lionel Messi jibe - apart from Wayne Rooney you could compare Messi favourably against just about every forward in Britain, never mind the Scottish First Division. YOU behave!

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You truly are a self opinionated and arrogant fud.
mortonjag 2010-01-25 14:50:08
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jan 25 2010, 02:33 PM) [snapback]701732[/snapback]
Ah nivir rid yer wee bit verse
Ahm shure its shecht, straight from yer erse
Ye thocht ye'd post tae much applause
An no tae cry o "FannyBaws!"
Auld Ernie, Burns impersanatin'?
Best jist stick tae masturbatin

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Ye 'nivir rid ma wee bit verse'
An noo yer on opinin
Yer worse by far than Spotty dug
F*ck aff an stop yer whinin'
An' as for Jaggy's rid raw wrist
It's better ye bide dumb
Or Jag'll post yon fotie
O' his tadger up yer bum.
mortonjag 2010-01-25 14:53:16
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 25 2010, 02:38 PM) [snapback]701734[/snapback]
laugh.gif As you are aware, when I said that you were wrong I was referring to the indisputable fact that you had interpreted the post in question wrongly and had therefore reacted wrongly to it.

As for you saying that I called you a liar - nowhere did I say such a thing, so for you to state that I did is a lie.

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LIAR
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 25 2010, 02:47 PM) [snapback]701740[/snapback]
tsk, tsk, doc - splitting your infinitive like that, and you such a stickler for pointing out the grammatical mistakes of others.......

Sad when the mind starts let you down, isn't it?

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You truly are a pedantic old fud.
mortonjag 2010-01-25 14:57:01
QUOTE(Quagmire @ Jan 25 2010, 02:42 PM) [snapback]701737[/snapback]
Offending posts unsure.gif

An 'unnamed' user indicated he would be willing to answer any questions regarding the stars of '79 night, I simply asked him a question, the question would not have and could not have hampered the police investigation in any way whether it was unanswered or answered.

It seems a crazy school has been adopted by the moderating team at the moment.

I could swear it was Willy Man. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 14:59:07
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 25 2010, 02:57 PM) [snapback]701747[/snapback]
Give up Jaggy.

If you don't like it go and clype to the Mods like you did last night! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 15:00:49
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Jan 25 2010, 02:54 PM) [snapback]701745[/snapback]
Peter's finish for the 2nd was unorthodox at best

still, happy with the win.

good wee crowd we took through as well judging by the video smile.gif

He would have buried it the first time but it 'bobbled' and his recovery was actually excellent.
mortonjag 2010-01-25 15:04:10 Name and shame your favourite clypes.

Mine for the time being.

Real Hoops whose sense of humour equates to Rae's integrity.

and

CHC who seems to get a lift from cribbing!
mortonjag 2010-01-25 16:08:25
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 25 2010, 03:22 PM) [snapback]701758[/snapback]
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.......so, you're calling Douglas Rae a liar, are you?

ARE you?? Yes or no??

Have you stopped beating the wife? laugh.gif

QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 25 2010, 03:30 PM) [snapback]701761[/snapback]
laugh.gif No columbo he is saying that you don't hear anything from Rae these days.

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QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 25 2010, 03:37 PM) [snapback]701762[/snapback]
blink.gif excuse me, is your name moronjag??

Irony obviously is above your level. If you read his posts on other topics you'll see that moronjag treats statements such as the one I questioned as "proof" that the poster is accusing its subject of being a liar.

That "whooshing" sound passing above your head should have given you a clue - but no, you remain clueless.

Mucky Boy gets agitated because he was found out! dry.gif

QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 25 2010, 03:46 PM) [snapback]701765[/snapback]
laugh.gif sorry in this wee thing called a free society I can rip the pish out you as i so wish.
Go and read what irony is ya dafty because it is not ironic. So double whoosh with feckin big knobs on.

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mortonjag 2010-01-25 16:10:34
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 25 2010, 03:07 PM) [snapback]701753[/snapback]
I was only trying to save you from more embarassment and ridicule Jaggy.

Honestly, give up.

By clyping because I alluded to a small scrotum? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 16:14:05
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 25 2010, 04:11 PM) [snapback]701777[/snapback]
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1) Really? Have I missed something - have we really been in Division 3 till this season?
2) And is it his fault if the standard of player around him hasn't been too great? No? Thought not!!
3)Weaterson is a fit guy in a fit team. He DOES cover a helluva lot of ground, and if he was blowing that hard before the end of a game - or if he was playing crap - he'd be subbed a lot more than he is.

I'm not saying Peter is the greatest thing since hot buttered toast; he has and HAS had his faults, including not seeming to apply himself sometimes - but that ain't been the case for a while now (no doubt somebody'll now say "aye, but just you watch now that the contract's in the bag" dry.gif ), but as for who would want him - apart from Dundee I reckon every other club in the division would welcome him into their squad, not just the club who happen to be second-top - but they're all skint; haven't you noticed the distinct lack of signings in Division 1 this month??

I take it you're supposed to be working! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 16:20:40
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 25 2010, 04:18 PM) [snapback]701782[/snapback]
take it however you like, doesn't bother me at all.

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So your employer doesn't mind! mad.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 16:30:53
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 25 2010, 03:16 PM) [snapback]701756[/snapback]
Is a clype not a grass? huh.gif

Correct Boozy.
Not only are they grasses but they are usually cheatin' creeps as well.

For example one of my nominated clypes got me warned (subsequently rescinded) and promised the Mods he'd put me on 'ignore'. Today he was back with his usual unprovoked sniping at the Jag, but the minute he's put in his place he'll clype again.

Another of my nominated clypes is renowned for beating other posters down with his repetitive self indulgent agendas (sounds a bit like the Jag I know! laugh.gif ).

The trouble is that when he's beaten he goes in a wee cream puff and makes such a fuss that the Mods are sick to death of him.

The Jesse forum was incepted because another clype (whom I've long since forgiven because he doesn't know any better) objected to my jocularly calling his son a POUFFE..

For that reason, if not simply that I want to openly expose the creeps who do it - I'd like to hear who the others' pet clypes are. Surely folk don't just clype about Mortonjag? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 16:33:25
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 25 2010, 04:23 PM) [snapback]701787[/snapback]
Haud on, I'll ask myself..............
I said to tell you no, I don't mind at all.
Happy now? tongue.gif

Business not doing very well then? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 16:34:47
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 25 2010, 04:27 PM) [snapback]701789[/snapback]
ahh, the usual mj ploy - change the subject when you're in the s***....... laugh.gif

Learn some new tricks, old dog - if you can.

Nonsense. Don't presume to ask me loaded questions - simples! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 16:36:07
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jan 25 2010, 04:24 PM) [snapback]701788[/snapback]
Out of all of them Plusnet has the best customer service. Was with them a few years ago then left but returned a few months ago. Had experience in the past with Virgin/Sky/TalkTalk all had ****in in furiating cutomer service departments! mad.gif

I've been using Plusnet for a couple of years and recommend them.
mortonjag 2010-01-25 16:39:06
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jan 25 2010, 04:27 PM) [snapback]701790[/snapback]
Can I join the list? Or maybe I'm on it already.... ph34r.gif

It's quite funny to see the tricks folk get up to when they can't match others in joust! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 16:41:37
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 25 2010, 04:40 PM) [snapback]701797[/snapback]
I see.

Nae clyping in here though. happy.gif

Well you can't exactly clype if there ain't any rules! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 16:47:12
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 25 2010, 04:44 PM) [snapback]701799[/snapback]
Sorry I ment the 3rd division in old money. That makes your points that PW is fantastic player so much better and you criticise jag for pulling you up about spelling mistakes .
On your second part of that statement about my third point your assumption which you refer to as my conclusion is incorrect. On that 3rd point my belief is that he would not have got anywhere near a great Morton team or even a good morton team if it was under different circumstances and persons who have started quoting him in the top ten goal scorers is trying to allude that he was and is a better all round talent than the strikers outside that ten in the past. Not true.
He is not a fit guy in a fit team. In fact he has not looked after himself like should have and now that he is thirty in May he will feel the effects of his amatuer attitude. He can and is getting fitter but he has not been the model proffesional he should have been and that is why sadly he did not go on to greater teams than us. No matter how others spin in it the fact is he has not been chased by anybody of any signifigance but hey what do these clubs know about football. See Macca boy for he knows a player when he sees one. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
I just hope he does well in the next two years. It might be a good send off for the fans.
As for my main points on my original statement I conclude you have no answer and therefore you have no case and hope to divert attention away from your daft defence of Peter and his limited footballing performances.

Give him a few moments Guv - he's probably with a 'client'. dry.gif
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mortonjag 2010-01-25 17:04:49
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 25 2010, 04:59 PM) [snapback]701803[/snapback]
I've been in discussions with TiD on how we can slowly but surely introduce new rules that strip away any freedoms and liberties you may have, bit by bit, under the pretence of a "War on Terrible Postings". I'm currently spending all my spare time learning how the British government manages it so well.

In my cellar there are several weapons of mass destruction Mr Bliar.
mortonjag 2010-01-25 18:46:38
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jan 25 2010, 06:06 PM) [snapback]701819[/snapback]
MJ IS the Greenock Govnor. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2010-01-25 18:48:05
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 25 2010, 06:26 PM) [snapback]701828[/snapback]
if there was, wouldn't Dougie be after you for the microphone and to fire up the Tannoy? laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2010-01-25 18:49:50
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 25 2010, 06:21 PM) [snapback]701824[/snapback]
blink.gif I got three lines into that and found myself losing the will to live, so I don't know if you made any sense or not further in. Going by your pedigree I kinda doubt it though.

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mortonjag 2010-01-25 18:51:53 Do you think Mortonjag's a wee bawbag? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 18:58:24
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jan 25 2010, 05:30 PM) [snapback]701809[/snapback]
another issue about this being a private members bill is laziness, lots of PMBs fall beause no one turns up
there was one on voting at sixteen a few years back and the govt allowed a free vote, and i think about 10 of them turned up to debate the subject

Oh well, it looks like euthanasia will still have to be a private matter between patients and doctors.
mortonjag 2010-01-25 19:00:42 If only things were so simple and effective here. For starters I'd have had those two evil wee torturers topped, and their bodies minced for pet food.
mortonjag 2010-01-25 19:03:23
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Jan 25 2010, 06:39 PM) [snapback]701832[/snapback]
I only have 3 people on my ignore list

lordhawhaw
mortonjag
greenockguvnor

my web life is so much better for not reading their drivel

You are not on my ignore list as I have no problem with your posts.... why would you want me to ignore you?

How dare you!

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mortonjag 2010-01-25 19:05:21
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 25 2010, 07:03 PM) [snapback]701853[/snapback]
They are children. A product of the enviroment we live in. Should have a right good look at the parents and the custodians of their care.

They are also evil little c*nts and should be minced.
mortonjag 2010-01-25 19:07:57
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 25 2010, 07:04 PM) [snapback]701856[/snapback]
A pretty barbaric thing to do.

Whit, Spurtle? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 19:09:24
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 25 2010, 07:03 PM) [snapback]701851[/snapback]
What about the cover up on debates about Scottish devolution by the Westminster government ?

UK JUSTICE Secretary Jack Straw yesterday vetoed the publication of secret details of cabinet debates on devolution, prompting claims he was trying to cover up evidence of his hostility to the plans to set up a Scottish Parliament

Mr Straw used his power to overrule a decision by the Information Commissioner to release minutes of the high-powered Cabinet sub-committee which met to hammer out details of home rule legislation in the wake of Labour's 1997 election victory

In a written statement to Parliament, he said the decision "was not taken lightly".


You have to ask, why was there a need to keep these debates secret ? So much for Gordon Brown's "greater transparency in government" promise.

All politicians are jobbies - simples!

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mortonjag 2010-01-25 19:10:44
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 25 2010, 06:59 PM) [snapback]701848[/snapback]
You still kicking about Oscar. You should try reading inside a books front cover instead of looking at the pretty pictures. You may gain some knowledge and understanding of topics instead of being like a demented clown in the arcade at a rundown seaside resort. Laffing when the joke is on you. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2010-01-25 19:11:50 unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 19:16:24
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 25 2010, 07:12 PM) [snapback]701865[/snapback]
Quite.

What possible reason could anyone have for putting you on 'ignore'? rolleyes.gif smile.gif

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Holy Willie
Shooglyphile
Trussed
Employee of that old fud Rae.

oh and downright

JEALOUSY

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mortonjag 2010-01-25 19:19:15
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jan 25 2010, 07:09 PM) [snapback]701862[/snapback]
I never saw any down there.

After you saw my weapon darling, you simply swooned. If you didn't have such a cheerful chubby bumbaleerie you'd not be posting tonight! wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 19:20:51
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 25 2010, 07:17 PM) [snapback]701869[/snapback]
tut tut laugh.gif

I know Guv - do you think they'll clock us fairly soon? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 19:22:52
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 25 2010, 07:21 PM) [snapback]701875[/snapback]
laugh.gif

Clutching at straws ya demented clown. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 19:25:01
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 25 2010, 07:22 PM) [snapback]701876[/snapback]
Hanging him was pretty barbaric.

What method of execution would you have preferred? I'd have gladly given the c*nt intravenous diazepam before feeding him to shoal of hungry piranhas. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 19:30:22
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 25 2010, 07:27 PM) [snapback]701883[/snapback]
Is the Pope a catholic ? blink.gif

He sure was last time I checked, Guv! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 19:35:06
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 25 2010, 07:26 PM) [snapback]701882[/snapback]
I wouldn't have executed him. That's just barbaric

If somebody tortured and then slowly and relentlessly pummelled your homosexual lover to death with a lead dildo shaped like Cliff Richard's knob you'd just kiss and make up Spurtle?

I do believe Jesus has risen again and is amongst us! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 19:36:15
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 25 2010, 07:31 PM) [snapback]701886[/snapback]
No some are peepee and jobbies mixed together.

I typed that first! mad.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 19:38:10
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 25 2010, 07:31 PM) [snapback]701887[/snapback]
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laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Honestly, you couldn't make it up.......
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Struggling!
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mortonjag 2010-01-25 19:39:41
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jan 25 2010, 07:37 PM) [snapback]701895[/snapback]

What an ASS! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 19:44:16
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Jan 24 2010, 03:30 PM) [snapback]701294[/snapback]
I don't think anyone would want this in an ideal world, but if it was a choice of

1. change your name to include a company name or
2. go bust

it causes a bit of a dilema

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mortonjag 2010-01-25 19:46:53
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 25 2010, 07:43 PM) [snapback]701900[/snapback]
And Mortonjag is a riddle wrapped inside an enigma encased in a mystery.

You're thinking of the silver threepenny in a clootie dumpling, Peter.

Oh and talking of dumplings, how was your day? wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 19:48:16
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jan 25 2010, 07:35 PM) [snapback]701891[/snapback]
not necesarily, shadow cabinets often look vastly different from real cabinets, keep an eye out for some of the less senior shadows, who tend not to get elevated due to having a low profile, guys like grant shapps, sayeedi warsi, mark francois, phillip hammond and dominic grieve will be high up, theres no way damien green will be home sec, or andrew lansley health sec.

i think ken clarke has said publicly he doesnt want a cabinet role

I HATE that c*nt like poison. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 19:59:11 Remember we started the way we meant to. Unfortunately the Jesse Boys soon included some sad, sick, and humourless c*nts and the forum's been dead ever since. How, for example did folk like that idiot with the bagpipes and the huffy wee bawbag from Belgium get in here?

Was it MidTons who posted the jobbies coming oot?

And then they ate them if I recall correctly - just like many still lap up Shoogly's sh*te. And was Donga's burd not on as some kind of sex therapist and that went limp too.

I'll need to leave as the haggis neeps and tatties await me, and the Monkey's an impatient cook.
mortonjag 2010-01-25 20:15:04
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jan 25 2010, 07:50 PM) [snapback]701914[/snapback]
yes well we were in semi decent financial stead pre 97 we were not?
his legacy surely?
i wasnt politcally sentient at the time

Ken Clarke is a beer swilling caricature of Hitler.
mortonjag 2010-01-25 20:16:55
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 25 2010, 08:03 PM) [snapback]701921[/snapback]
He could have been locked up and had the key thrown away. Killing someone makes us all barbarians.

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mortonjag 2010-01-25 20:19:00
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jan 25 2010, 08:11 PM) [snapback]701928[/snapback]
DO YOU regard end of life assistance as proposed by yourself as murder ?

Get off the fence fanibaws laugh.gif laugh.gif

Where were YOU hiding when the storm broke ?

What the f*ck are you slevering about cranefly?
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mortonjag 2010-01-25 20:20:58
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 25 2010, 08:17 PM) [snapback]701932[/snapback]
Good thanks Douglas, nice of you to ask. Plenty of business out there just now. I'm sat in a nice hotel in Bowness overlooking Lake Windermere. And you?

I've just gobbled my haggis neeps and tatties Peter - so has the greyhound and I DREAD the farts tonight.
mortonjag 2010-01-25 20:22:47
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 25 2010, 08:18 PM) [snapback]701933[/snapback]
That's either a dyke or Jim Murphy unsure.gif Or is Jim Murphy a dyke. blink.gif

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDHe's usually got a dry stain down his flies.
mortonjag 2010-01-25 20:27:41
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 25 2010, 08:20 PM) [snapback]701936[/snapback]
Nope, but your replies are getting more desperate. I think we all see that.

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mortonjag 2010-01-25 20:29:27
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jan 25 2010, 08:25 PM) [snapback]701940[/snapback]
**** you spunkbucket

Who do you think you're calling spunkbucket you apology for humanity?
mortonjag 2010-01-25 20:33:15
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jan 25 2010, 08:27 PM) [snapback]701941[/snapback]
hanging is not barbaric and should be brought back, start within the walls of peterhead and get to those two wee torturous swines as well, the death penalty is a great thing and the PC cants everywhere need to man up. If it was a member of your family tnat was tortured, how would you feel? Kiss, hug, kiss , hug

Never a truer word spoken AJC.

An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. The victim is never considered in our mealy mouthed namby pamby society, a couple of perfect examples of which will now pop out of the woodwork to swear on the bible that if somebody murdered their children in cold blood they'd kiss their f*ckin' arses for making it quick.
mortonjag 2010-01-25 20:35:17
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jan 25 2010, 08:32 PM) [snapback]701951[/snapback]
SPUNKBUCKET

SEMENSTAIN

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mortonjag 2010-01-25 20:39:34
QUOTE(Mick @ Jan 25 2010, 08:36 PM) [snapback]701954[/snapback]
What part of GG's post are you unsure about?

EH! [attachment=6385:hit.gif]
mortonjag 2010-01-25 21:04:39
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 25 2010, 08:39 PM) [snapback]701956[/snapback]
ach, don't worry - it's only natural, at your age.......

Try Ex-Lax - that should shift it for you!!
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mortonjag 2010-01-25 21:09:26 The Holy Willies will be on soon!
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mortonjag 2010-01-25 21:10:33
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 25 2010, 09:09 PM) [snapback]701985[/snapback]
So does the greyhound. laugh.gif

The Guv finally exposed! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 21:20:03
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 25 2010, 09:05 PM) [snapback]701979[/snapback]
it is now!!

[spoiler]END OF THREAD.[/spoiler]

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mortonjag 2010-01-25 21:21:29
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 25 2010, 09:15 PM) [snapback]701998[/snapback]
Another one of yer shaggy dog storys or is that duggie shagger storys. Woof. laugh.gif


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mortonjag 2010-01-25 21:26:57
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 25 2010, 09:25 PM) [snapback]702021[/snapback]
That is one ugly dog Douglas.

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Not nearly as ugly as the farts, Peter! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 21:29:31
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 25 2010, 09:25 PM) [snapback]702022[/snapback]
At the end of the day, he was tried by his own folk and sentenced by his own folk. He had alot more crimes to pay for but those families who suffered will be happy he is gone.

I'm honestly not trying to be controversial when I say that I believe his punishment was lenient. All he had to do was close his eyes and start counting sheep. Could that be said of the victims?
mortonjag 2010-01-25 21:48:02
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 25 2010, 09:37 PM) [snapback]702027[/snapback]
My thoughts are with the al-Majid family at this sad time.

Thought I say it before anyone else did. blush.gif

Chop chop! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 21:49:49
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 25 2010, 09:45 PM) [snapback]702037[/snapback]
What is it they say about owners and their dugs again? happy.gif

Erm - that you have a miniature poodle? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 22:32:44
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 25 2010, 09:50 PM) [snapback]702042[/snapback]
That the courts said you haven't to be a 500 metre radius of our canine friends after that last incident.

Defence was that somebody put him up to it. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 22:34:22
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 25 2010, 10:27 PM) [snapback]702055[/snapback]
If you're a mouthbreathing mentalist, perhaps.

I take it that you believe Chemical Ali's life should have been spared.
mortonjag 2010-01-25 22:41:13
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 25 2010, 10:36 PM) [snapback]702061[/snapback]
I see it's now Tony 'Six Hooses' Blair. But that's small potatoes compared to this board's multi-maisoned magnate from Belgium, Monsieur CHC.

Good god Sir. No wonder he objected to my referring to a diminutive scrotum. He's clearly Mr Big in the property market! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 22:42:53
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 25 2010, 10:40 PM) [snapback]702064[/snapback]
And as long as we have the death penalty we will never be civilised.

We don't.

WAKE UP! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 22:45:27
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jan 25 2010, 10:42 PM) [snapback]702067[/snapback]
He should currently be being tried and convicted in The Hague, and incarcerated for the rest of what would ahve been left of his life.

Fair enough. I just believe sincerely that the world has been relieved of an embodiment of evil in an efficient and economical manner. I don't at all see it as a punishment or even a lesson to others. Simply damage limitation.
mortonjag 2010-01-25 22:51:33
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 25 2010, 10:43 PM) [snapback]702068[/snapback]
Or this version.

For a' that, an a' that,
It's coming yet for a' that,
That fan to fan, the world o'er,
Shall brothers be for a' that.
For a' that, an' a' that
Our toils obscure an' a' that
Yon Rae is but oor piggy bank
The fans are gaud for a' that


mortonjag 2010-01-25 22:54:29
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 25 2010, 10:39 PM) [snapback]702063[/snapback]

It was AMAZINGLY accurate except for the specs!
mortonjag 2010-01-25 22:56:28
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 25 2010, 10:46 PM) [snapback]702071[/snapback]
The world does.

GO BACK TO SLEEP.

The the 'world' is correct. [attachment=6388:fing36_1_.gif]
mortonjag 2010-01-25 23:03:07 [attachment=6389:throb.gif]
mortonjag 2010-01-25 23:04:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 25 2010, 10:59 PM) [snapback]702080[/snapback]
FFS - the case of Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf is NOT sub judice.

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Even Bryan would know that.

The Trussed matter will hopefully soon be super judice! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 23:06:46
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 25 2010, 11:05 PM) [snapback]702084[/snapback]
The newly crowned Australian of the Year, Patrick McGorry, has taken the Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd, to task over the detention of asylum seekers, which he described as ''an absolute disaster that we must not repeat''.

Only moments after receiving his award from Mr Rudd, Professor McGorry, a psychiatrist, promised to confront the Prime Minister over his border protection policies, which provide for asylum seekers to be detained in facilities that he said were ''factories for producing mental illness and mental disorder''.

Professor McGorry, a long-time critic of Australia's detention policies, said he formed his views on the issue while working with asylum seekers in the 1990s.

''They've experienced severe torture and trauma,'' he said. ''What we have been doing … is adding to those mental health problems.''

He said asylum seekers should have their claims processed as quickly as possible while they lived in the community.

''That's what other countries do,'' he said.

''Australia's really set the world back by creating a different model which we're trying to retreat from, but it's difficult to retreat from it once it was entrenched.''


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http://www.smh.com.au/national/australian-...00125-muk9.html

So why did the daft b*stards come?
mortonjag 2010-01-25 23:08:56
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 25 2010, 11:07 PM) [snapback]702086[/snapback]
Along with Bush, Blair, Bin Laden, Olmert, Ahmadinejad, Gaddafi, Al-Bashir, and a whole host of other murderous feckers.

I'm sure Douglas Rae would prefer to be executed than to share a cell with that lot! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 23:20:35
QUOTE
'Grady's Gopher'[/color] date='Jan 25 2010, 11:17 PM' post='702100']
Exactly - Morton were due to hear from his agent today. Not a good decision by Grady to mention this as it puts more pressure on the player(s) in question.

Maybe Grady needs to be less informative for his own benefit.

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mortonjag 2010-01-25 23:30:34
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 25 2010, 10:56 PM) [snapback]702077[/snapback]
Ye see you birkie ca'd the Doug,'
What struts, an stares, an a' that?
Tho hundreds worship at his lug,
He's but a cuif for a' that.
For a' that, an a' that,
His faulty mic, an a' that,
The man o independent mind,
He looks an laughs at a' that.
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Rae maks sweets and girns an greets
An' questions are nae wantit
Sceptre an croon will tummel soon
If Jaggy's prayers are grantit
mortonjag 2010-01-25 23:31:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 25 2010, 11:19 PM) [snapback]702102[/snapback]
To suffer a LOT LESS torture and trauma ?

It's all a matter of degree.

From a proper University?
mortonjag 2010-01-25 23:36:58
QUOTE(Bawhirley Road @ Jan 25 2010, 11:12 PM) [snapback]702095[/snapback]
The death penalty says a lot about the society that inflicts it.

Forgiveness at times seems impossible especially for most hideous of crimes but it is remarkable how it can be settling and bring a calmness to the perpetrated if it can be achieved.

That is not to say that the punishment should not be relevent to the crime but there should be dignity in the inflicting of that punishment.

Rehabilitation should always be considered. Sometimes the crime will be so absurdly horrid to deem that unneccessery. Teach the perpetrators every day that they were wrong and the price to be paid is liberty and it need not be a soft option.

Was it not the Irish that said 'Our revenge will be the laughter of our children'.

And it was my granny that said

'Hanging's too good for them, they need their erse kicked.'

Indeed, and the lack of it indicates a 'democratic' society led by a shower of self seeking squids who would NEVER allow a referendum on hanging! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 23:38:52
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 25 2010, 11:31 PM) [snapback]702109[/snapback]
Misogynist and wannabe Slave master. Monarchist and privately educated.

Welcome to the fella that the scotish left have a wankfest over.

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The question is Prof Bam -should he have been hanged or just jailed for life in a wummin's prison?
mortonjag 2010-01-25 23:44:35
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jan 25 2010, 09:42 PM) [snapback]702032[/snapback]
I was giving him more time! laugh.gif

You still have time as he claims to has me on 'ignore'! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 23:47:00
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Jan 25 2010, 09:50 PM) [snapback]702043[/snapback]
Can only be a good thing for us. Extra time and pens on Wednesday night please! happy.gif

I seem to remember Airdrie winning the Mickey Mouse cup followed by a massive flop in their next league match.
mortonjag 2010-01-25 23:54:44 OMG!


Naughty, naughty Annabel! wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-25 23:57:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 25 2010, 11:55 PM) [snapback]702121[/snapback]
There is - it works.

My partner has been a practitioner for 6 years.

General?
mortonjag 2010-01-25 23:59:30 Today is just about to become yesterday!

Tomorrow is just about to become today!

Will the new signing be tomorrow, or yesterday?


OR..............................today? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-26 00:04:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 25 2010, 11:54 PM) [snapback]702119[/snapback]
Probably not - the number of "universities" in Oz has exploded in a similar fashion to the UK.

When I matriculated in 1970, there were no more than 30 universities.

Now there are 41.

However, several have as many as 10 campuses (campi ?)

‘Non-university’ institutions originally issued only trade/technical certificates, diplomas and professional Bachelor’s degrees.

Now degrees are like confetti, being awarded by dozens of non-universities.

The Rainbow comes and goes,
And lovely is the Rose,
The Moon doth with delight
Look round her when the heavens are bare;
Waters on a starry night
Are beautiful and fair;
The sunshine is a glorious birth;
But yet I know, where'er I go,
That there hath past away a glory from the earth.
mortonjag 2010-01-26 00:06:25
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 25 2010, 11:59 PM) [snapback]702125[/snapback]
No - specific.

Practising forgiveness? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-26 00:07:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 26 2010, 12:01 AM) [snapback]702127[/snapback]
To please Cowshed Warrior, please delete hanging and insert .........

Hanging POUFFES?
mortonjag 2010-01-26 00:10:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 26 2010, 12:02 AM) [snapback]702128[/snapback]
Has your Tuesday copy of the Herald beeen delivered yet ?

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Not yet Newt, though a wee bird told me that the paper boy has gout.
mortonjag 2010-01-26 00:18:31
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 26 2010, 12:17 AM) [snapback]702135[/snapback]
I trust it will arrive soon.

What is a society without news ?

Trussed?
mortonjag 2010-01-26 08:11:56 Well folks, are youse sitting comfortably - good - then I'll begin. Seems that after celebrating Burns Night with a drunken rendition of Strip the Willow, Strathclyde's finest POUFFES have concluded not only that the Trussed couldn't run a piss up in a brewery but that the organisation which trots out unintelligible figures at the drop of a hat to justify its existence, can't read a simple spread sheet.

I'm referring of course (for the 75% on here who require everything explained twice) to allegations that money disappeared from the 'Stars of 79' bash.

It would appear from information received from impeccable sources (which include Mortonjag's source on Alistair Donald) that one Trussed member and co- organiser of the said night was falsely accused by two 'heid bummers' - aye Mr McColl, not yourself Sir, but two heid bummers just the same - of STEALING almost £5,000.

Mortonjag understands that all charges have been dropped. Mortonjag does not yet know if the falsely accused Trussed member intends to 'pursue' (Mortonjag loves Shoogly's expressions) the said accusers legally.

Mortonjag is curious to understand if the said accusers now have/deserve any credibility within the Trussed.

Mortonjag suggests as before that the Trussed may well be f*cked. Why don't all youse Trusties who have regularly put the boot into Mortonjag for daring to ask ANY question just go and take a flying F*CK to yourselves.

Don't ever DARE to give me another word of your crap about 'Save the Ton', God Almighty Shoogly, and 'asking questions of appropriate people'. Appropriate -AYE RIGHT! rolleyes.gif

The Club is in downward decline because of unbridled incompetence on the part of a befuddled old fudge packer.

The Trussed should have been able to prevent that at least in small measure.

Mortonjag always saw the Trussed as a toothless bulldog. Seems the poor beast's now suffering from terminal rabies! ph34r.gif



mortonjag 2010-01-26 08:21:29
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jan 26 2010, 08:15 AM) [snapback]702155[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2010-01-26 08:37:55
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Jan 26 2010, 08:24 AM) [snapback]702157[/snapback]
I can't trust anyone that refers to themselves in the third person.

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mortonjag 2010-01-26 08:39:06
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Jan 26 2010, 08:33 AM) [snapback]702158[/snapback]
...or that spells trust as "Trussed".

Sorry darling - I just feel that TRUSSSSSSSSHHT is no longer appropriate. Omerta is delete! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-26 09:16:53 That is all! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-26 09:34:26
QUOTE(dazed @ Jan 26 2010, 09:04 AM) [snapback]702162[/snapback]
Pot, kettle, black from the great pink suited one???? I note big bella has been keeping a low profile in sunny Bishopton recently! and I am most definately not a fan smile.gif

Her crime is surely of humungous proportion relative to the other trivial expenses claims! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-26 09:35:28
QUOTE(dazed @ Jan 26 2010, 09:10 AM) [snapback]702163[/snapback]
One less b****** in the world

And it's a better place without the evil c*nt! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-26 09:40:54
QUOTE(StillTON @ Jan 26 2010, 01:23 AM) [snapback]702143[/snapback]
Dont recall that!

I think alot of Jimbo but even when it was obvious in some games he wasn't performing he
was left on the park and somebody else subbed.If he had been subbed he probably would
of thrown a fit,but i think he would have learned from that.After all nobody's bigger than the
club.Although I truly hope he puts pen to paper,I'm 90% possitive he will leave in the summer
for maybe St Johnstone or Motherwell.

He WAS subbed - I don't recall the game but DO recall the look of anger/disgust on his coupon! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-26 09:47:46
QUOTE(C B @ Jan 26 2010, 09:42 AM) [snapback]702173[/snapback]
Bugger, I started reading that before I left the house and thought I'd pick it up on my iPhone in traffic.

That's what I get unsure.gif

Reading Mortonjag's posts in traffic is not recommended! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-26 09:56:39
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 26 2010, 09:52 AM) [snapback]702180[/snapback]
Which particular deleted thread are you talking about ?? Bryan's be'n doing his tottie recently. rolleyes.gif

Check your pm's in five minutes Chrissiboi! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-26 10:01:16
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 26 2010, 09:46 AM) [snapback]702175[/snapback]
Well she will get free food with a 1st class ticket so if she charges for a breakfast she'd bankrupt the country. laugh.gif

And a couple of wee goldies thrown in? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-26 10:23:29 Over an hour since I supplied enough information to have the post reinstated.

Shouldn't be long now I'd guess.
mortonjag 2010-01-26 10:25:03
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jan 26 2010, 10:21 AM) [snapback]702184[/snapback]
<a href="http://www.heraldscotland.com/business/corporate-sme/profits-drop-at-national-semiconductor-plant-1.1001496" target="_blank"> Profits drop, workers sacked, directors remuneration increases... rolleyes.gif
</a>

Ah -so the SNP have not been putting bromide in the watter.
mortonjag 2010-01-26 10:36:47
QUOTE(C B @ Jan 26 2010, 10:35 AM) [snapback]702187[/snapback]
I'm still waitin, just PM me ya bugger, I cannae take it ph34r.gif

Very well -it shall be done! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-26 10:44:20
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 26 2010, 10:42 AM) [snapback]702189[/snapback]
aaah, THAT'S better! laugh.gif

Practice what you preach then you sad stalker! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-26 10:55:32
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 26 2010, 10:53 AM) [snapback]702191[/snapback]
Eh ? blink.gif

National semi, Spurtle! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-26 11:02:28
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jan 26 2010, 11:00 AM) [snapback]702196[/snapback]

Is it really official. I mean is it 'in the public realm' yet? We must be careful of discussing matters not in the public realm! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-26 11:04:01
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jan 26 2010, 11:01 AM) [snapback]702197[/snapback]
Can anyone take a guess what the thread was about ? dry.gif

Speculation is forbidden, Ape. Don't you understand. Almost two hours now! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-26 11:16:43
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jan 26 2010, 11:07 AM) [snapback]702203[/snapback]
If I was a Mod I wouldn't reinstate the post until after 10pm tonight - just to keep the jag on toast. And by that time he would be medicated and tucked into his cot laugh.gif

Go on Mods- you know it makes sense.

Very good Cloth Ears - the Jag is happy to wait. Perhaps the Mods don't really want the thread to reappear. If that proves to be the case Mortonjag will be asking WHY. ph34r.gif

Anyway I'll away and do the Herald Crossword.

The last clue is 'Token is held by copper'. (4 letters), and 24 across is 'Nasty account to clear' (5 letters) OH and 5 down's 'Blew up flawless fellow (7 letters).

Back soon! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-26 11:19:58 It's a sensible move. Wakey was a 'trier' and sometimes came good, and I'll miss the big man's honest endeavour but with Spoonsy, Graham, and LEAFY in there as strikers too, it releases a wage for another signing.
mortonjag 2010-01-26 11:42:10
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jan 26 2010, 11:40 AM) [snapback]702227[/snapback]
is this the thread where spunkbucket reveals his evidence that dougie and ad robbed the trusts dosh ? Cannae wait for this earth shattering news, apparently when its made public time is going to stop and the world will cease spinning. Where were you hiding when the storm broke spunkbucket ?

That's right Semenstain - now away and push yer wee buttons, 'cos you ain't pushin' Jaggy's! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-26 12:05:27
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jan 26 2010, 11:51 AM) [snapback]702237[/snapback]
I'm sure MortonJag will have evidence to back up whatever claims he is going to make dry.gif



QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jan 26 2010, 11:59 AM) [snapback]702243[/snapback]
Evidence , MJ doesn't deal in hearsay, or does he. Surely there are two sides to every story?

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mortonjag 2010-01-26 12:07:42 Almost three hours since my post was deleted. How long do the Mods need to check a simple established fact. What are they trying to hide and why? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-26 12:09:23 HMS Willow is not depth charged easily.
mortonjag 2010-01-26 12:12:23
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 26 2010, 12:10 PM) [snapback]702254[/snapback]
If it is what i think it is then they may want to release it when there are enough people to deal with the enivatable cross fire. Maybe keeping it for the six o'clock special.

Don't forget:


All posters are requested not to discuss matters that might be considered sub judice (currently in a court of law) or are under active consideration by law enforcement agencies (may be brought to a court of law).

Please remember that you are responsible for what you post. Posts which are reasonably considered to be inflammatory or causing defamation will be removed and posting privileges removed without warning
.

I consider that a certain matter no longer fulfils that description! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-26 12:15:04
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jan 26 2010, 12:14 PM) [snapback]702259[/snapback]
You cant sink a battleship!!!!!!

Not even if you drop charges?
mortonjag 2010-01-26 12:17:39
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jan 26 2010, 12:16 PM) [snapback]702263[/snapback]
Me too!!

Has the particular "event" not finished and now can be discussed

Thirty one members browsing, all desperate for signing news! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I really DO hope the Mods haven't been selling exclusives to the Tilly! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-26 12:24:10
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 26 2010, 12:21 PM) [snapback]702273[/snapback]
He has been living on past glories for a couple of seasons now and is well past his Morton sell by date. He is a good player and I think we will miss his pace and ability to track back and defend. We will not miss his lack of end product plus, to be honest, most first division clubs have long since figured out how to play him. The result is that his good games have been few and far between for a long time now.

Having said all that, he has been a good servant to Morton and I wish him well wherever he goes. I hope his new club can get the best out of him and that his career is kick started again.

His and a few other departures certainly mean that there must be more new signings this week. If not, we are looking a bit thin on the ground for the remainder of this season.

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Are you sure that's in the 'public realm' and not still sub judice? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-26 12:25:26
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 26 2010, 12:24 PM) [snapback]702282[/snapback]
I personally think the The Tugboat should exclusively reveal it himself.

Maybe he's still trussed in harbour.
mortonjag 2010-01-26 12:27:21 92 User(s) are browsing this forum (63 Guests and 3 Anonymous Users)
26 Members: C B, GreacensGenitão, theoceanfloor, tom, mortonjag, daver1874, bob_the_builder, EBu, Malt, SkinTON, Flight Ton, Flyerton, Scott_Gillan, Stevie Aitken's Love Child, Dream Oak Tree, maccaboy, Section C, BlackIsleTon, Cawston, Tonsilitis, piehutt, div, btb, longtimeton, moneton!!!, beermonkey

Busy for a dull Tuesday morning - eh? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-26 12:31:01
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jan 26 2010, 12:29 PM) [snapback]702290[/snapback]
Well done the tugboat, just heard the story. You should get on here an gloat at your enemies laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2010-01-26 12:33:32
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jan 26 2010, 12:29 PM) [snapback]702292[/snapback]
Aye but can he get his 18hour ban back...does it get put into an account so if he "upsets the gods" hes got 18hours in lieu

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mortonjag 2010-01-26 12:41:25
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jan 26 2010, 12:40 PM) [snapback]702311[/snapback]
Agreed, so let's here it from the Big man himself.

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mortonjag 2010-01-26 12:43:04
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jan 26 2010, 12:38 PM) [snapback]702306[/snapback]
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The willyman is free...........

LONG LIVE THE WILLY MAN
mortonjag 2010-01-26 12:44:43
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jan 26 2010, 12:43 PM) [snapback]702318[/snapback]
Now your confusing me, I heard the Big Man organised this event on behalf of the Trust . So are you saying he couldn't run a piss up in a brewery?

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mortonjag 2010-01-26 12:49:43 This is growing stranger by the minute. Maybe the Mods know something that's NOT in 'the public domain'.

Or maybe they don't know folk are interested.

Mind you the thread was deleted within minutes of appearing.

If there's a trend somebody will always try to buck it. blink.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-26 12:51:17
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jan 26 2010, 12:49 PM) [snapback]702330[/snapback]
Im in but dont let just anyone do the finances.......THEY MIGHT **** IT UP AND START POINTING FINGERS

Nice clean ones - OF COURSE! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-26 12:59:05
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jan 26 2010, 12:53 PM) [snapback]702336[/snapback]
everything.. because they can.... how else can they feel important..

Well I just had this very scary thought that matters which were considered to be sub judice might still be sub judice despite information now freely available.

Could it be that bigger fish have still to be fried.

Mortonjag merely poses the question, and without prejudice.
mortonjag 2010-01-26 13:03:56
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 26 2010, 01:01 PM) [snapback]702342[/snapback]
Mmmmm Now there is a point. Not what I heard? On what grounds ?

I was merely pondering possibilities. If Tontastic reinstates my thread we can safely assume that the matter is closed! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-26 13:06:00
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jan 26 2010, 12:58 PM) [snapback]702339[/snapback]
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Serious question as the youth system was to benefit from this.

Or is there still an investigation being carried?

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Should that question not be directed to the TRUSSSSSHHT? laugh.gif

Now where did I ever hear that before? cool.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-26 13:08:50
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 26 2010, 01:07 PM) [snapback]702347[/snapback]
News Flash: Sky News Just in there that a man has been arrested for shagging a donkey in the middle of Sauchiehall street in Glasgow. Asked by reporters if he had any comment to make the man being questioned by the polis replied
" I am saying Hee Haw Hee Haw Hee Haw" laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

He wasn't carrying the latest audited accounts for GMFC? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-26 13:14:30
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jan 26 2010, 01:07 PM) [snapback]702348[/snapback]
I would have thought that's a question that should be asked of the guy that organised it. Cmon the Tug Boat sock it to them.

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mortonjag 2010-01-26 13:40:25 Well, well, well my thread's taking a long time to reappear. I'm led to believe that the Mods now have sufficient information to allow them to reinstate it.

Will we have to rely on the Tilly yet again? dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-26 14:07:49
QUOTE(BlackIsleTon @ Jan 26 2010, 01:57 PM) [snapback]702386[/snapback]
Im confused i have no idea what this topic is about? Can someone enlighten me?

I'm equally confused. It concerns a matter which could not be discussed because it was 'sub judice'. I have been assured by two reliable sources that the matter is now closed so far as Police investigations are concerned. One of those sources was a Mod.

AND I'm still waiting for my thread to be reinstated! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-26 14:42:22 It's pretty clear that Tontastic's 'too busy' to reinstate my original thread despite having deleted it very shortly after it appeared, so here's the story.

Willy Man was accused by two high ranking Trust members of stealing almost £5000 from the proceeds of the 'Stars of 79' bash.

After a police enquiry, all charges have been dropped and I'm told that the matter is 'closed'.

It has been suggested to me (not by Willy Man) that he may very well have been 'stitched up'.

Others have implied that the Polis have 'got it wrong', but are unable to say why. unsure.gif

It has been suggested that the Trust merely misinterpreted the paperwork.

It has been stated that no profit was made from the night in question.

It has been suggested that money DID go missing.

The answers are known by people who post on this pubic massage board.

Mortonjag has in the past taken considerable abuse for daring to question the Trust's accounting and accountability. Legitimate questions have been ridiculed or fobbed off.

Maybe it's time for other posters to start asking legitimate questions of an organisation which purportedly has 'no heid bummers', and which appears to Mortonjag to be unable to organise a piss up in a brewery.

mortonjag 2010-01-26 14:51:42
QUOTE(JMcC @ Jan 26 2010, 01:18 PM) [snapback]702360[/snapback]
An important question here.

Surely a substantial amount of money was made at the Stars of 79 night ?

Who organised it and how much was made and passed to Morton Youth ?

Indeed!
mortonjag 2010-01-26 15:16:56
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 26 2010, 12:43 PM) [snapback]702319[/snapback]
Good article with him here, fair play to him I don't know If I'd be able to deal with the cancer as well has he has. He's refreshingly honest about the mistakes in he's made in his life, including ignoring the lump on his baws for 4 years.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/ja...overy-interview

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mortonjag 2010-01-26 15:22:06
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 26 2010, 03:19 PM) [snapback]702417[/snapback]
Why is everyone using one sentance parahraphs?

I need to know.

Now.

Why can you not spell a simple word, and indeed why are you (as always) trying to stultify a serious matter?
mortonjag 2010-01-26 15:26:37
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 26 2010, 03:25 PM) [snapback]702421[/snapback]
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I need to know.

Now.
mortonjag 2010-01-26 15:31:37
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 26 2010, 03:29 PM) [snapback]702424[/snapback]
It's fairly obvious what these threads are about and to be honest they're turning the whole episode into a bit of a pantomime, which is unfair to those involved/not involved/caught watching porn one night by their sister. Perhaps it's time to drop it as well as this tiresome crusade against the mods and allow the folk involved to decide whether or not they want to say their piece?

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mortonjag 2010-01-26 15:33:08
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jan 26 2010, 03:32 PM) [snapback]702427[/snapback]
I don't see anything wrong with her getting a first class ride. What say you Doc? happy.gif

I gather she is.
mortonjag 2010-01-26 15:36:25
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 26 2010, 03:31 PM) [snapback]702425[/snapback]
It should have been Willowman's place and prerogative to publicly confirm or deny this if he felt he wanted/needed to.

TonInDublin

It still is TiD, and I'm sure he will.

QUOTE(JMcC @ Jan 26 2010, 03:32 PM) [snapback]702428[/snapback]
Drop it. Are you kidding ?

I was at the night and I spent money at it, secure in the knowledge that it was going to Morton Youth.

So the question remains open is directed clearly to Willowman.

How much did the night make ?

Simple, please answer.

If Willy Man has been able to satisfy the Polis, I'm pretty sure he'll provide answers to questions when he sees fit.
mortonjag 2010-01-26 15:48:50
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jan 26 2010, 03:47 PM) [snapback]702440[/snapback]
He's probably embarrassed about the feckin song and dance you've made about all this James, just a thought... unsure.gif

Maybe he's busy at work - just a thought mind! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-26 15:51:31
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jan 26 2010, 03:47 PM) [snapback]702441[/snapback]
Big girls often are!

Her tobacconist says she enjoys a good shag.
mortonjag 2010-01-26 16:11:55
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 26 2010, 04:10 PM) [snapback]702457[/snapback]
I am dying for a slash but I am going to hold off for abit happy.gif

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mortonjag 2010-01-26 16:14:34
QUOTE(jimbobton @ Jan 26 2010, 04:10 PM) [snapback]702458[/snapback]
McGuffie and Jenkins to name two.................

Give the boy a chance - he's just back after a long term injury and he set up our second goal on Saturday.
mortonjag 2010-01-26 16:22:16
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 26 2010, 04:16 PM) [snapback]702464[/snapback]
Ah ! Good old British justice quick to convict but slow to react to rectify their own mistakes dry.gif
Consistent with their inconsistencies

I could have copied and pasted the original thread Chrissiboi, but I realised it was a wee bit 'heavy' and might have upset some of thae Trussed posters who have had a ball attempting to discredit and ridicule Mortonjag.

That and the fact that Tontastic can't abide me my big font pink comments persuaded me to go easy on them all.

It's been lovely to hear their comments all day!
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mortonjag 2010-01-26 16:24:22
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jan 26 2010, 04:18 PM) [snapback]702465[/snapback]
Fair comment. Sums it up nicely.

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mortonjag 2010-01-26 16:31:51
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 26 2010, 04:25 PM) [snapback]702471[/snapback]
ohmy.gif This is even more than I knew. Why the mod squad are reluctant to say anything is baffling and they should be clarifying that up.
Was it just Jim that was in the frame at the time ? I thought all those involved in the night had been questioned and they were all cleared of any ALLEGATIONS and No charges were ever brought and for me personally guys like Jim would give ye there last penny never mind feckin steal it.
That is a bloody scandal if the allegations are true so maybe the Mods are seeking advice incase counter allegations to the polis are made.

Apparently the case is 'closed' so far as the Polis are concerned.
mortonjag 2010-01-26 16:33:11
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 26 2010, 04:26 PM) [snapback]702472[/snapback]
Seems ashame that Jim's efforts for what was heralded as a great night , fabulous DVD has been tarnished by this . A real low point , as players come and go but supporters are the constant .

Sad when this happens to one of our own.

....and apparently by some of 'our own'.
mortonjag 2010-01-26 16:44:58
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 26 2010, 04:41 PM) [snapback]702490[/snapback]
Send an email to the Trust, or pm one of them on here

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I'm sure that the genuine Trust members will be more than happy to have the matter out in the open. So far as I can see the organisation's been run like some secret bloody society for far too long and the chickens have come home to roost.
mortonjag 2010-01-26 16:48:25
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 26 2010, 04:45 PM) [snapback]702494[/snapback]
For clarity, tontastic dealt and will deal with trust threads the reason posts werre removed was because of the police investigation so that it would not prejuduice ant case brought or the invesigation.

Thanks Bryan. Are you able to confirm from a Trust position that the matter is no longer sub judice (as I understand to be the case) and if so can we expect an explanation to be forthcoming from the two 'Heid Bummers' who accused Willy Man of theft?
mortonjag 2010-01-26 17:55:33
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jan 26 2010, 05:42 PM) [snapback]702523[/snapback]
Is this what you have been waiting on spunkbucket ? Its been common knowledge for weeks ! so much for your secret informants ha ha. My sister told me and she has been to one morton game in her life ya sad ill-informed loser. Still no answer ????

WHERE WERE YOU HIDING WHEN THE STORM BROKE ?


That is actually quite pathetic.
mortonjag 2010-01-26 17:59:22
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 26 2010, 05:11 PM) [snapback]702500[/snapback]
No one, regardless of position or belief in the matter, have to post anything here.

If you want answers, go through official channels. If you are not happy with your answers then by all means go on about it here. But don't demand that people volunteer the information here.

And good on Jim, as I know he put a lot of work in to that night!

The Police?

The Tilly?

The Sun?

The Club?

The trust hierarchy which was responsible at least in part for the accusation?

I sincerely mean this when I say to you that I hope that's not meant to be some kind of joke.
mortonjag 2010-01-26 18:01:17 laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-26 18:30:00
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jan 26 2010, 06:08 PM) [snapback]702541[/snapback]
Are you a paid up member of the trust ? did you go to the event in question ? Do you sit in front of your pc screen all day because you are sad and have no friends to play with ? Where were you hiding when the storm broke ?

If you can explain that question in a sensible and intelligible manner, I'll attempt to give you an honest answer. You appear to be the only poster who is attempting to dilute the seriousness of this matter, and what I do privately is entirely irrelevant to the validity of the questions that have been asked. I'm not surprised that other posters seem to think you fall into the 'schoolboy' category, but you don't and should know when fun's fun and when it's just NOT funny.

QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 26 2010, 06:09 PM) [snapback]702542[/snapback]
It is not just the Trust that should be getting answers. It is the public who bloody well dished out the hard earned cash that should be getting answers or are some eejits on here still think they are above all that. Remeber last nights Burns stuff. There are plenty still acting like that. mad.gif

Well Guv, it's been in the Tilly and it's been in the Sun and as you say it was a very public event attended by a large number of non trust members.

It could have been discussed openly here. The Mods correctly suppressed that until the police investigation was complete.

We now have a clear cut situation. Willy Man went to huge lengths to make the Stars of 79 event a success - to raise money for the proposed youth academy if I'm not mistaken.

Two leading members of the Trust went to the Police because they believed (or so I've been told) that almost £5,000 had gone missing. They specifically pointed Willy Man out as the thief. The investigation has exonerated Willy Man.

If the said 'heid bummers' acted in good faith and sincerely, they have nothing to fear in publishing their side of the story. It will surely re-establish their credibility. People CAN be sincerely mistaken.

Furthermore, openness from all parties would go a long way towards retrieving what scraps of the Trust remain intact.

mortonjag 2010-01-26 18:38:02
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 26 2010, 06:36 PM) [snapback]702553[/snapback]
I've told you before, fuk off baldy

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mortonjag 2010-01-26 18:43:54
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 26 2010, 06:40 PM) [snapback]702559[/snapback]
Or was he well hung? unsure.gif

The dimensions of 'the hanging' and the performance of the apparatus are not inevitably in direct proportion!

I'm so glad about that!
mortonjag 2010-01-26 21:14:45
QUOTE(Mick @ Jan 26 2010, 08:49 PM) [snapback]702636[/snapback]
Agreed.
Aren't these questions for Trust members to clarify / answer?
Again, if the mis-management of Trust or fundraising monies is the issue, this really isn't anything to do with Willowman, is it?

You seem satisfied that things will come out in due course, so why not drop it until then?
This forum isn't really the place for it.

In any case, I feel certain that we've had this conversation on another thread.

Are we not in a similar position whereby you view the lack of a denial / further information as indicative of guilt or wrongdoing?

I don't suppose you've heard from Mr Donald recently? No? Thought not. mellow.gif
No offence, but your sources aren't always the most reliable. laugh.gif

Clearly the investigation uncovered nothing untoward so it's a reasonable assumption that all monies have now been fully accounted.

Perhaps this was nothing more than a misunderstanding that, having been fully investigated, is now closed?
Does there really have to be more to it than that?

This is a genuine question: Has Willowman ever posted anything on here or anywhere else about this matter?

Finally, as regards openness, I'll refer you back to the comment about Mr Donald. mellow.gif



QUOTE(Mick @ Jan 26 2010, 08:55 PM) [snapback]702643[/snapback]
Has he discussed it on here?

The reason I'm asking is because this sounds (again) like something that's being blown out of all proportion.



There is always the smartass and tonight you wear the crown.

EVERYTHING I've posted today has been posted with Willy Man's explicit consent and we have kept each other informed of the progress. You have been told by Willy Man that he will make a posting in due course which he will.

The information on Mr Donald as disseminated by Douglas Rae via a Trust heid bummer is very well known.

The information I hold on Mr Donald's involvement at Cappielow came from a source who HAS YET TO BE WRONG AND WHO CORRECTLY PREDICTED THE OUTCOME OF THE POLICE INVESTIGATION.


And to this person who is claiming that Willy Man was only exonerated because there wasn't enough evidence-- let's hear your evidence because until we do your 'high heid yin' pals are being done no favours, and you frankly look a bit biased.

Mick, if the REAL reason you're asking is because you think something's been 'blown out of proportion' I suggest you sit down and think again.

Despite TiD's eloquent sermon, the best thing for all concerned IS that the matter is out in the open. Speculation will only do further damage if that is indeed now possible.

One final word to TiD about that original post - I could have re-pasted it at any point. Only I decided to take a more gentle approach. Furthermore your comment about my attacking the Trust was inaccurate. I attacked those who attempted to ridicule and muffle my previous legitimate questions regarding accountability.

Accountability is AGAIN in question tonight and this matter should NOT be swept under the carpet.
mortonjag 2010-01-26 21:20:07
QUOTE(jan65ton @ Jan 26 2010, 08:32 PM) [snapback]702624[/snapback]
yes as i said insufficient evidence if u want contact police n they will tell you not got off but not enouugh evidence

And how would you know that?
mortonjag 2010-01-26 21:22:00
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 26 2010, 09:17 PM) [snapback]702656[/snapback]
Can he not speak for himself ?

You know perfectly well that he can, and you know perfectly well that he has promised to do so.
mortonjag 2010-01-26 21:24:40
QUOTE(jan65ton @ Jan 26 2010, 09:21 PM) [snapback]702663[/snapback]
cos i do

So you are openly accusing Willy Man of being 'the' thief, despite the police having cleared him of all charges and having declared the investigation closed?

If that is the case, provide the evidence or your credibility - if you ever had any - is zero.
mortonjag 2010-01-26 21:26:44
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jan 26 2010, 09:21 PM) [snapback]702662[/snapback]
Dont worry MJ , Im sure he will give you the crown back when he's finished with it dry.gif

What an intelligent input to a serious thread. Well done son - I'm sure lots of folk will be chuckling all the way to their cots.
mortonjag 2010-01-26 21:55:35
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 26 2010, 09:30 PM) [snapback]702673[/snapback]
Christ on a bike. I know you could have reposted it Ernie. I could have as well. I said in my post I thought the oversized abuse might have got it removed rather than the subject matter but that was speculation on my part. The PM I sent you was intended to shed light on what my thoughts on all of this were, as was yours to me.

We are pretty much in violent agreement on this, and most matters !

This needs to be fully resolved, and there needs to be a formal statement from the Trust on how things got so far out of hand. They own giving us answers on the amount of money made, or lost, at the night in question. They own telling us what they did with our money. They own telling us how they made such a galling accusation against one of life's good guys who I would trust implicitly, they own telling us what actions, if any, they intend to take acgainst those members who have let themselves down so badly, they own telling us how they intend to recover from this, or if they are even going to try.

But we have no God given right that it should be openly posted here, or discussed immediately or any other things we may feel we're entitled to.

If Jim decides to speak out then that's his prerogative and he should NOT be silenced here, or anywhere. Likewise for the Trust.

Until either make that move then all we can do is wait for the formal announcement, wherever either of them choose to make it. When that is done, like all things Morton, I'm sure it'll be on here in a flash.

Jim knows how virtually everyone on this message board feels about him, and if he needs to talk to a friend I'm sure we're all here for him if he needs us. The way we've always been.

TonInDublin

Of course we are in agreement John. Mortonjag just gets a wee bit defensive. You only have to read some of the completely unwarranted stuff on this thread to see why. I just wanted to make it perfectly clear that my original post had not been blocked by the Mods. No doubt Jim will make his promised statement as soon as he is ready. So far as I can see he has absolutely nothing to hide. Can that be said of those who accused him of theft?

QUOTE(Mick @ Jan 26 2010, 09:40 PM) [snapback]702684[/snapback]
You should really read some of your stuff MJ. Secret dossiers on ex-Board members - do you and Willowman have a dedicated phone line or does he just read this messageboard?? Oh dear. ph34r.gif

When you refer to 'this person', if you're referring to your source who 'has yet to be wrong' then fair enough.

If you're referring to me, just to be absolutely clear since you've obviously misinterpreted my post, I never questioned Willowman's innocence nor do I have any wish to do so.

I have no vested interest in this but are my questions really so far out? If the investigation by the Police has concluded what exactly remains to be discussed?

Would it be fair to suggest that this is a personal matter between members of the Trust and Willowman? If so, why should it need to be aired in public?



If the matter had not been publicised by the Tilly, and subsequently by the Sun it may very well have remained private between Willy Man and those who ran to the police accusing him of stealing almost £5000.

It strikes me as absolutely crazy that the Trust has had all day to come out with some kind of statement, but has remained stum. Should they not be happy to discover that the accusers just made a genuine mistake?


mortonjag 2010-01-26 22:04:49
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 26 2010, 09:45 PM) [snapback]702689[/snapback]
How do i know perfectly well ?

Tbh, alot of folk on here have posted with different opinions to you that Guv guy, but if they are not in agreement with both of your questions then they are ridiculed for it !

What a pile of nonsense Ernie.

What's a pile of nonsense? Willy man posted earlier today that he was at work and would make a statement on this massage board later. I'm sure he will when he's ready! If this matter was as clear cut as most posters on this thread would have me believe, why all the venom and dog eat dog stuff. Strikes me that some folk just ain't happy that poor Willy Man got off the hook. WHY? dry.gif

QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jan 26 2010, 09:45 PM) [snapback]702690[/snapback]
Appreciate that you obviously have strong feelings on this Jan. Probably not a good idea to express them on this board.
The truth will be likely to come out eventually. I guess that you are p1ssed off at MJ's trumpeting about the situation.
As others have observed - he is pursuing his own agenda rather than looking after Willowman's interests.

This thread might have 'train crash value' for most of us , but if I were a Mod - it wouldn't pass go.

Straight to room 101 for this p1sh.


On what premise do you base that statement? What is the agenda you mention?

Two heid bummers accused Willy Man of theft. He has been exonerated. Those two heid bummers are nowhere to be seen or heard.


WHY?
mortonjag 2010-01-26 22:12:58
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 26 2010, 10:10 PM) [snapback]702720[/snapback]
They might have, or maybe it was born out of what was seen as frustration at a lack of progress in the investigation, or maybe even a diversionary tactic. Who knows, will we ever know?

****s sake, its like manoeuvres is it not?. Or even Morton Cluedo.

Well let me guess. Stuart and Danny in the dunny with Shoogly's wife! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-26 22:35:22
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 26 2010, 10:17 PM) [snapback]702723[/snapback]
1. What venom ?, as i said others have been giving opinions but if they are not of your liking then its not valid

2. Where have i stated i am not happy that Willowman got off the hook ?

The mind boggles.

Don't be daft Ghostie - and don't take it so personally.

It's bloody obvious what's been going on all day. Willy Man was accused by two 'heid bummers' in the Trust of stealing almost £5000.

Do you dispute that?

Willy Man has today been exonerated by the police after a thorough investigation.

Do you dispute that?

I've said all along that the accusation could have been a genuine mistake.

Do you dispute that?

Willy Man has promised to give his account in due course.

Do you dispute that?

In the meantime the thread has been infected by (among others) this Jan - or is it Ian somebody stating boldly that Willy Man IS guilty.

Do you dispute that?

I'm sitting here in Glasgow 25 miles away. I don't know a single soul in this whole bloody fiasco personally, and I have absolutely no hidden agenda and no axe to grind.

Why don't the two accusers simply admit that they made a genuine mistake and give Willy Man the apology which he thoroughly deserves?

Or do you think it's more complicated? It certainly seems to have upset an awful lot of 'unbiased' folk! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-26 22:40:39
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 26 2010, 10:37 PM) [snapback]702752[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2010-01-26 22:51:35
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 26 2010, 10:30 PM) [snapback]702743[/snapback]
Dear oh dear, what a thread this is........ rolleyes.gif

I don't know any of the individuals involved in this affair, so I can comment without emotions getting involved.

Ton in Dublin and Mick are the posters talking the most sense about this, with one or two others making good points. Most of the rest are like a mob of local yokels from a Hammer film, laying seige with flaming torches to some hated target that they've long wanted to see get its comeuppance. I hate to say it, but some of you guys have sunk down to the greenock guvnor's level - and it ain't a pretty sight!

Think on this, guys, which I don't think has been said yet: if members of the Trust thought, whether rightly or wrongly, that monies from that function had not been correctly accounted for and may even have been misappropriated then they were duty bound to report their suspicions. Not to do so would have been a gross dereliction of duty and would have left them as culpable as any alleged perpetrator if their suspicions had been correct.

As TiD and one or two others have said, this wee message board is not necessarily the place to have a discussion of this sort if the people involved don't wish to discuss it here. That applies to Willowman, members of the Trust or anyone else involved, SOME people might even like to maintain some confidentiality - and not necessarily to protect themselves. You guys can shout all you like, but no-one has to reveal anything on here just to satisfy your curiosity.

As for the guvnor bleating that "it's my money, I've a right to know what happened to it" - that's just bollocks. Anyone at that function paid their money to be entertained that evening, and by all accounts they were. What happened to the monies after that was the resposibility of others - and that is precisely the reason that the investigation was held; because people were taking their responsibilities seriously (they may or may not have gone about their investigations in the best way possible, but they acted in good faith).

I have no side to take here; I don't know ANY of the people involved. But while Willowman has rightly been considered innocent unless it could be proven that he was guilty, it looks as if Lord Moronjag and his lynchmob have decided that the trust is guilty untill proven innocent. And that's shocking.

Take a look at yourselves, guys. Take emotion out of the equation here and don't let someone's hidden agenda overcome your common sense. The police have investigated and haven't come up with anything. The trust will no doubt deal internally with its issues and its members will be made aware of the answers as to what went wrong, if anything did, and Willowman is free to go about his business.

And that is all that matters.


Mock shock from the faux peace maker. Wipe away yer crocodile tears. Mortonjag and his lynchmob indeed. What next ? Jan and her f*ckin' knittin bee!

I'm fed up with this crap.

Danny Goodwin and Stuart Duncan reported an alleged discrepancy to the police. I'm told that they 'named' Jim as the culprit.

Today the police have stated that Jim has no case to answer.

In my book that means that Stuart and Danny should explain their side of the story.

As I have stated all along, this may all have been a genuine mistake.

If it was, what's the problem in admitting that ?

One IS allowed to ask questions. One IS permitted to seek the truth at all times.


mortonjag 2010-01-26 22:58:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 26 2010, 10:56 PM) [snapback]702776[/snapback]
Have they stated that the case is closed ?

That is what I have been told Newt, and I bid you good night and God Bless. wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-27 07:18:09
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 26 2010, 11:00 PM) [snapback]702782[/snapback]
I'm fed up too and I'm aff to watch "Shameless" - hopefully it'll be more entertaining than this nonsense!

One more thing, tho - you seem very keen to hear an explanation from the two guys you named, even tho you know you aren't entitled to it in the least. To put it in perspective, DOC, if you in your working life had made a mitake in diagnosing a patient's ailment, leading to a distressing time for that patient, would you have gone public and admitted your mistake (which you could do while maintaining the patient's confidentiality) and taken the flack?

NO??

Thought not!! Of COURSE you wouldn't

Why then should THOSE two guys??

Your analogy is flawed -just like your integrity. I believe you are correct about a genuine mistake by SD/DG. You may of course be wrong. WHY indeed should they publicly hang their heads in shame IF they don't have to, and why would any doctor publicise his genuine mistakes IF he didn't have to? In a situation , however, where a patient had suffered months of agony because of a doctor's blunder, and was then accused by said doctor of being responsible for his own condition, I'm pretty sure said patient would have the CHC, LHC, and GMC investigating the matter. Complaints by patients are taken VERY seriously and investigated rigourously. The doctor would have NO choice in the matter Indeed the doctor could very well be STRUCK OFF.

To err is human. To deliberately'stitch up' a fellow Trust member and good guy is not.

THAT is why Messrs Duncan and Goodwin have some explaining to do. I hope they are in the clear - well that's a lie actually - I don't really give a f*ck. I'm just fed up always getting flak for asking questions which others should have been asking all along.

QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 26 2010, 11:26 PM) [snapback]702823[/snapback]
laugh.gif God that is even worse than I thought. I honestly thought it was a wee teenager I was trying to discuss the subject with. laugh.gif

No. Maccaboy is a one off who would make for intriguing psychoanalysis in that he's obviously an intelligent respectable and successsful middle aged gent who lets Mortonjag get under his skin so badly that he behaves like a child with a stolen rattle. He's not a snake like the club insiders and more recently some anonymous trussed fools who have attempted to besmirch Mortonjag's ever increasing reputation. He simply seems to be a sad old git.
laugh.gif Good God - I seem to have heard that term before, or is it just the dementia kicking in?


QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 26 2010, 11:42 PM) [snapback]702846[/snapback]
So yes, I'm signalling you out for once, Ernie...grow up and take your head out of the gutter! Your poor attempt at 'bringing out the truth' is ruining what was a great night, arranged to a very high standard by an individual - as well as many others - who put in a lot of their own personal time...and their work time the fly bam wink.gif!...to get it going.

If that post was sincere, you are sincerely wrong as time will prove.

I hope you will then have the decency to apologise to Mortonjag, just as I hope Messrs Duncan and Goodwin will to Jim G., IF their apparent mistake was genuine.
mortonjag 2010-01-27 08:08:51
QUOTE(BayTON @ Jan 26 2010, 10:57 PM) [snapback]702779[/snapback]
Here is the truth. Not some MJ I have a good source. I was involved with the night. Though on a lesser scale but got copied in on every email by head people involved.

Danny Goodwin and Andy Morrison thought up the idea, the trust asked two decent guys to get the idea off it's feet and run it.
The trust held these two guys is big regard one being a long term trust member the other just joined.

The big word here is trust.

After kicking this night off and making a success of it all two people became very jealous and then rejoined the team setting up the night, by this time included about 6 people.

Danny and other got really jealous of those running the night as it was there idea. And started on a big arguement with Jim Gallacher even before the night happened. To such an extent the night was on jeperdy.

But the night went as planned, with not any help from anyone but the 6 original task members, rather than glory hunting Danny.

After the event, Danny demanded total figures from the night within hours of the night.

Jim's downfall is that he produced 5 diferent figures from the 6th Nov till the 8Th Dec. None that matched up., though he was main organiser. So it's easy to see why finger was pointed. Why hide something of you are innocent, though I doubt Jim can swear he had no part to play on cash going missing.

Daft things like £200 for phone bills, made up costs Something that apeared on one spreadsheet but not the other one bill saying £120 for x and another saying £300. If that is not someone hiding something well come on. Asking if he can repay £1500 and all is forgotten reeks of a guilty man.

As the police say, money DID go a miss it's just hard to prove who took it.

So in summary, Jim Gallacher has not been cleared, no one has. And Danny Goodwin was gunho going to the police dispute being told not to.

So I would say Danny Goodwin is as much to blame as Jim Galacher in this whole farce.

Here ends the truth from someone that knows for a change.

If you know as much as you claim to know and you are obviously Sean (or Sean's wife who has no right to be poking her nose into Trust matters) why are you calling Mortonjag into question?

I have just as much information as you, even if I can't lay my hand on the various scraps of paper that are part of this financial shambles.

Of course Danny the good yin doesn't get on with Willy Man! When the discrepancy was 'noticed' the Trust apparently wanted to brush everything under the carpet. Folk like Andy M spoke out strongly in favour of getting in the police - what else could have been done - it was the right thing to do. Fingers were pointed at Jim G - perhaps understandably as he worked tirelessly to make a success of the evening and was involved in the finances.

Are you still with me Jan/Sean?

Two days ago (you know this as one of you works in the Polis office and should be VERY careful what she says) and AFTER AN INVESTIGATION OF THE PAPERWORK the police decided that Willy Man has no case to answer.

Innocent until proven guilty applies in Scottish Law.

And at this moment SD and in particular Danny the Good Yin are innocent too, and it will be good to hear their version ASAP.

One thing's for sure, Mortonjag is NOT personally involved in this ridiculous farce of a 'Night of the long knives'.

George Orwell had it spot on rip.gif in Animal Farm. ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL BUT SOME ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS'.

What a shower of jealous back stabbing power crazed pigs.



mortonjag 2010-01-27 10:02:09
QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Jan 27 2010, 09:15 AM) [snapback]702955[/snapback]
You need to be very careful what you say!

I am always VERY careful in what I say Stuart, and if I have said anything untoward you have full access to your solicitor.

Are you still planning to step down?
mortonjag 2010-01-27 10:07:39
QUOTE(se65an @ Jan 27 2010, 08:16 AM) [snapback]702940[/snapback]
I wondered when my name would be brought into all this.

I have stayed well clear of all discussions and wish still to do so. So please do not bring my name into all of this or my good lady. Thanks

Sean, I have already apologised to you personally. I was informed that 'Jan' who posted last night is your wife, and that she works in the police office. As I said, if that is not the case I apologise unreservedly.

QUOTE(Cawston @ Jan 27 2010, 09:28 AM) [snapback]702962[/snapback]
If you're willing to post names you should really be adding your own at the end.

It'll be interesting to see if Andy M's version of events will corroborate the above.

Sad stuff all round.

Indeed. I was wondering who this person is and why he/she had access to personal Trust emails.
mortonjag 2010-01-27 10:14:41
QUOTE(Deego @ Jan 27 2010, 10:11 AM) [snapback]702983[/snapback]
Don't make me go Puggsy style on you, mj.

It has to do with me young Sir because I was asked personally by Jim G to become involved. That, and the fact that I'd like to know the truth.

People who have acted honestly and with good intentions have nothing to fear.

Don't you agree?
mortonjag 2010-01-27 11:28:19
QUOTE(Malt @ Jan 27 2010, 11:15 AM) [snapback]703020[/snapback]
There are so many theories and statements being made on this site it is difficult to get a grasp of what really happened.

However, if no profit was made then surely there was no point in the evening? The aim was to raise funds for the youth set up and if this has not been achieved then it has been an epic fail. Furthermore, it damages the credentials of the trust.

Trust needs to have a shake up as current efforts are not too spectacular. I never see any promotion or need to join the trust! Never know what is going on and never hear them looking for members.

You want people to take the trust serious then reach out to them!!

I think there's even more to it Malt. People who are Trust members have been bewildered by the lack of information.

My brother put £1000 in at the very beginning and he's still a Trust member so I asked him on Saturday what he thinks of the set up. He wasn't critical - he simply said, 'I get a letter every year asking for another ten pounds and that's about it'.
mortonjag 2010-01-27 11:49:47
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 27 2010, 11:31 AM) [snapback]703031[/snapback]
I really hope you put these posts back Tontastic as I find it disappointing that they were removed. I understand the need to remove certain aspects of the posts, but it's important to the fans to find out what's going on here, especially since none of the parties involved are prepared to comment.

I wonder if one of the p.m.'s 'from both sides' was one to a Club Official from a Club Director.

Just a wee thought! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-27 11:51:32
QUOTE(Malt @ Jan 27 2010, 11:31 AM) [snapback]703030[/snapback]
One of the reasons I left the trust was the lack of information. They only contact when it comes to the £10 membership. Why are they not encouraging people to join?

The credibility of the trust is lowering as each week passes. I would be interested to see how many members joined in the fist year of the trust compared to now!!!

I can't help thinking that it may be past time for a shake up at the top.
mortonjag 2010-01-27 11:53:58
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 26 2010, 08:27 PM) [snapback]702615[/snapback]
laugh.gif This is poor stuff. Hope you aren't in the Trust.

No he's in the Mortonjag arselickers society. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-27 11:56:03 When does this academy open?
mortonjag 2010-01-27 12:12:39
QUOTE(Malt @ Jan 27 2010, 12:02 PM) [snapback]703046[/snapback]
Same time as Janne Lindberg becoming gaffer. Could be a long wait MJ....a real looooong wait!

That's a bit of a bummer. I thought they had even appointed some teuchter guy as a coach but maybe that was a while ago. Has there been some hitch?
mortonjag 2010-01-27 12:19:17 My boyfriend finds those threads disgusting.
mortonjag 2010-01-27 12:20:42
QUOTE(EBu @ Jan 27 2010, 12:19 PM) [snapback]703054[/snapback]
Did he not bugger off to run Birmingham City's youth set up when it became obvious after 6 months that nothing was going to happen with ours?

So this academy's not really going to happen at all?
mortonjag 2010-01-27 12:22:19
QUOTE(JMcC @ Jan 27 2010, 12:19 PM) [snapback]703057[/snapback]
Who said the night made no money. That is the first I have heard that and cannot be true.

Willow, As the organiser, please respond.

How much was made on the night out ? If you are not the main organiser, please tell me who was and I will ask them.

I have been asking this same question for two days. Very simple.

Willow, Please answer.

smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-27 12:49:29


QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 27 2010, 12:39 PM) [snapback]703070[/snapback]
One or two wee problems there? 1)Could you organise it 2) Where would the money raised go ?
Oh the mind boggles.

I once had a patient who made a bucket from screen printing tee-shirts - so much in fact that he sold his taxi business and started doing it full time. Said it was a total rip-off!
mortonjag 2010-01-27 13:40:09
QUOTE(EBu @ Jan 27 2010, 12:46 PM) [snapback]703073[/snapback]
Apologies, it was Birminghams Reserves Malky Thomson buggered off to manage, not the youth set up...

To be honest, I think the club really need to take an active interest in getting this off the ground, its all well and good raising money but unless the club themselves start to implement it the academy wont even get off the ground.

I cant see it happening tbh but hope I'm wrong as its the way to go.

Perhaps Mr Rae felt that others were better at organising things than himself.
mortonjag 2010-01-27 13:47:06
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jan 27 2010, 01:13 PM) [snapback]703087[/snapback]
Inverally's initial question is entirely valid and I would also like to know the 'final tally'

I wouldn't expect a reply from Willow (or any person who has been under investigation for theft/embezzlement/whatever) The fact that no charges were brought at this stage surely doesn't preclude that they might arise in the future.

I'm also sure any half decent lawyer would advise his client not to enter into discussion on a public forum just to satisfy the sweety wives on this .org

I know that many loyal fans attended this function and it's very sad to see it all end up like this.

That's correct, and would clearly have to be based on evidence which has not yet been made available to the police since the current matter is closed.

AND of course charges could theoretically arise in future against another/others as distinct from Willy Man.

Just being a sweetie wife since you started it! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-27 13:48:08
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 27 2010, 01:12 PM) [snapback]703086[/snapback]
Haha made you look! tongue.gif

I have little doubt that we will! smile.gif

Was this thread not started elsewhere. The Mods are fairly on their toes today.

It's amazing what happens when a Club Director gets his knickers in a twist. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-27 14:05:39
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jan 27 2010, 12:48 PM) [snapback]703074[/snapback]
Andrew McDade aka IrvineTON once watched two fellow fans have anal sex in a hotel room during a Morton pre-season tour to Altrincham.

During the act, he devoured a full kebab.

I believe this is what ghost was hinting at. blush.gif

Which one?
mortonjag 2010-01-27 14:07:56 Twenty four folk on at 2.07 p.m. on a Wednesday in January! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-27 14:23:05
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 27 2010, 02:19 PM) [snapback]703116[/snapback]
General Nonsense or www.i'mjustabouttoshootmaloadcosIheardthebladesofacopter.com for this pish. mad.gif biggrin.gif

TonInDublin

Fifty nine users as I type! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-27 14:27:39
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 27 2010, 02:13 PM) [snapback]703113[/snapback]
I think it's been conveniently missed in the myriad of other responses - but if you read the one further up this thread the stated intent of the evening, as documented in the formal communiques was

"With a sportmans dinner theme, tickets will go on sale mid July once speakers etc have been confirmed, but the aim of this night is one for the fans, so expect the ticket price to be as low as possible.

The aim is not to make money but to make it as cheap as possible so 'real fans' can get along,
any money that may be made will go to the new Greenock Morton Football Acadamy"


Whether it made money after that is something to be cleared up - but I'd suggest that something that was specifically set up NOT to make money, would probably NOT make a lot of money.

At some point we should be entitled to see the loss/breakeven/profit figures. But ..... we have no right of access to the details that make up the costs, same way you're not entitled to see the line item detail of any other business you buy something from, UNLESS they did not provide you with the goods they said they would.

In this case, you got a good night out - it did everything it said on the ticket.

Now, in future, if the intent is to MAKE loads of money them maybe you would run it better, price it differently, cut your cloth etc - but that wasn't the intent this time round.

All that said, most people know what the story is in terms of £££ made,a nd it would just put it to bed if those involved came out and simply said "we made/lost x amount - there is nothing amiss and we'll learn for the next time" - or otherwise.

TonInDublin

TonInDublin


I imagine that more than one person is able to answer that question.
mortonjag 2010-01-27 14:38:31
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jan 27 2010, 02:32 PM) [snapback]703123[/snapback]
ewwww ,.......I know what you're doing now sad.gif

Still fifty nine. smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-27 14:40:09
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 27 2010, 12:51 PM) [snapback]703076[/snapback]
A couple of straighforward questions, not loaded, no hidden agenda.
Q. Can you confirm or deny that back in late 2009 (around October/November time) you initimated your desire to step down as chairman of the Trust?

Q. If the above is accurate would you still have then intended to remain as a director of Greenock Morton Football Club and if so where would this leave the position of the trust having a representative within the board of GMFC?

And before anyone asks, I think it is perfectly acceptable to ask this question within this medium, it is an open public forum. I am not demanding anwers, merely asking question I think are pertinent to us all. I can't ask at a Trust meeting as I am not a member, if I asked through other means and received a reply I would place it on this site anyway.

I guess he must be busy.
mortonjag 2010-01-27 14:41:28
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 27 2010, 01:46 PM) [snapback]703102[/snapback]
I thought Mr Rae and GMFC board of directors had nothing to do with this youth system and neither did the Trust which in my opinion making it a charity and handing over players worth potentially alot of money was madness. Why we could not have sold them to the club and to other clubs and utilised that money to buy shares in the club seems to me a better idea.

Whose idea was it - if you happen to know?
mortonjag 2010-01-27 14:48:07
QUOTE(tontastic @ Jan 27 2010, 10:31 AM) [snapback]702997[/snapback]
I've just removed two posts that have been running in the last couple of days as a result of more PMs and Reports than i've seen for a while. More than one person has asked me to remove these and from either side in the ongoing issue if there are such things as sides. I don't have time to edit individual posts and quotes to remove offending pieces so the whole lot had to go.

I will say again that I have no issue whatsoever with facts being discussed, but accusations and allegations are another thing entirely. If i get the time tonight i might reinstate these once they have been sanitised but i would rather sit down and edit my pictures from Saturday's game where we saw the Ton win for a change thqn wade knee deep through this.

Aye very good Mr Mod. We must all prioritise! mad.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-27 14:49:27
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 27 2010, 02:48 PM) [snapback]703129[/snapback]
I certainly don't know but if anybody does know could they say who it was that pruposed this idea?

I'm sure somebody in the Trust will know - not so sure that he'll tell mind you.
mortonjag 2010-01-27 14:50:57 There's a wind of change blowing over Trust headquarters.
mortonjag 2010-01-27 15:38:52 Seventy five now -wow! blink.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-27 15:40:51 I'm sure Mr Duncan has all the answers.
mortonjag 2010-01-27 15:46:11
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 27 2010, 02:52 PM) [snapback]703132[/snapback]
people do have jobs as well rolleyes.gif

Indeed. Does Tontastic run his Empire at a profit or a loss? I've never yet received a satisfactory answer though I've asked a few times.

If it runs at a loss, why does he bother? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-27 15:48:52 The wind of change over the Trust headquarters may be followed by a deep depression! blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-27 15:53:13
QUOTE(diana.ross @ Jan 27 2010, 03:25 PM) [snapback]703147[/snapback]
from what i'm told only one person can answer the question, and that is Mr Willowman.
He said he'd come on last night but I can't find anything from him, he's 'da man' apparantly and as i'm reliably told he had all the money so he should be able to come on and clear everything up.
Scott gillan had an excellent post earlier about accounting methods, so come on Mr Willowman it's surely fairly easy to explain unsure.gif

i'm still waiting

It has apparently been explained already to the police. They have decided that Willow has no case to answer. I take it you have no involvement in the Trust! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 27 2010, 03:38 PM) [snapback]703157[/snapback]
Miss Ross, you'd do well to make different spelling errors when posting under an alias than those you make when posting under your 'real' name. It makes it less likely that other posters will cotton on to who you are in less time than it takes to scratch yer baws.

Hey, I'm here to help.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-27 15:59:46
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 27 2010, 03:47 PM) [snapback]703170[/snapback]
A hobby? unsure.gif

Quite possibly, but he does sell stuff, and he is an official Club photographer.

I'm glad his hobby takes precedence over sorting out active debate about this Trust fiasco. He chose to obliterate entirely the two relevant threads almost immediately after Mr Duncan - Sir -Trust Director was asked twice if he still intended to step down - prior to which the said Mr Duncan - Sir had warned Mortonjag to be'very careful what he said'. Do you think Tontastic deleted the threads to protect Mortonjag from further threats from Mr Duncan -Sir? smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-27 16:02:12 He has a blog called TRUST DIRECTOR but it's had nothing on it for ages.
mortonjag 2010-01-27 16:03:59
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 27 2010, 04:02 PM) [snapback]703183[/snapback]
I'm sure he will look over them, he said he would. smile.gif

I am aware that you and he are acquainted personally Your Majesty. You do seem to hold him in high esteem. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-27 16:05:07
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 27 2010, 04:03 PM) [snapback]703185[/snapback]
So if he has now power as you say Colkitto. What does he do on the board?

He acts as Mr Rae's mouthpiece.
mortonjag 2010-01-27 16:06:29
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 27 2010, 04:04 PM) [snapback]703187[/snapback]
How did you figure that one out? unsure.gif

I have a very good memory sometimes Your Majesty. Would tennis ring a Bell? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-27 16:10:07
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 27 2010, 03:59 PM) [snapback]703181[/snapback]
Look back at the people spouting the exact same pish without changing anything, it's not hard.

Further evidence of discrimination against Mortonjag. They killed wee Mouton. They will never be forgiven.

Mouton was a little lamb
His fleece had specks of rust
One day he found a ten pound note
And gambolled on the Trust.
mortonjag 2010-01-27 16:13:34
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 27 2010, 04:08 PM) [snapback]703191[/snapback]
Ah, my daughter played his wife at tennis. I wouldn't call that aquainted. I did buy a couple of DVD's from him, does that count? unsure.gif

Only if they worked!

So he does flog his wares - you see I knew that all along - he cons folk into letting their daughters play tennis with his wife and then does the Double Glazing routine! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-27 16:25:32
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 27 2010, 04:18 PM) [snapback]703198[/snapback]
Allegedely laugh.gif

Aye!
mortonjag 2010-01-27 16:27:10
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 27 2010, 04:19 PM) [snapback]703199[/snapback]
Willowman made a succinct reply last night on another thread,

TonInDublin

He did indeed and promised a reply when he was ready to give it.
mortonjag 2010-01-27 16:27:55
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 27 2010, 04:23 PM) [snapback]703201[/snapback]
Is there a big market over there to tap into ?

Not as big as the one in Australia.
mortonjag 2010-01-27 16:29:20
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 27 2010, 04:16 PM) [snapback]703197[/snapback]
I am so glad Mr McColls word is so binding.

For the record, was it not the case they had to fight tooth and nail to get a rep in after Mr McColl decided to stand down as the custodians were dead against having anyone else question the motives or decisions being taken?

Was Stuart Duncan vetted in some way prior to being appointed?

Many are now talking about the trust having a renewed sense of transparency in order to get over the recent bad press. Would it not also be good if the club followed suit, allowed a fan who will ask awkward questions into the boardroom and allowed that fan to publicise the answers without prejudice?

It seems to me that the best person to answer is Mr Duncan. He does post here now and again.
mortonjag 2010-01-27 16:31:51 Only sixty nine now.
mortonjag 2010-01-27 16:32:57
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 27 2010, 04:31 PM) [snapback]703209[/snapback]
Does Benylin count. laugh.gif

Tongue firmly stuck in cheek pal. smile.gif

Is he the latest poster giving the true account?
mortonjag 2010-01-27 16:36:34
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 27 2010, 04:35 PM) [snapback]703214[/snapback]
or America ?

Not quite the same unless you're importing sugar.
mortonjag 2010-01-27 20:09:39
QUOTE(JMcC @ Jan 27 2010, 04:52 PM) [snapback]703222[/snapback]
I'm waiting with renewed interest.

I'm asking how much was made. The question is directed to Willow, who seems to have been the overall organiser of the night.

If Willow was not the person who ran the event and someone else was actually in control, please tell me who.

Simple question to Willow. How much money was made, or who should I ask that question of ?

Willow is the only person who can answer this initial question.

Still waiting.........

I guess you'll just have to wait. Another Trust insider troublemaker - Julius Iscariot was one lucky c*nt compared to Jim G.

Why don't you identify yourself?

I'm waiting with interest.

Would you be offended if I called you a worm - I'm feeling generous tonight.
mortonjag 2010-01-27 20:15:54
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 27 2010, 07:09 PM) [snapback]703310[/snapback]
It is all part of the fun and games Ajcton. All is not what it seems. Sean and Jim know me and i have already stated that it is just mostly fun and for a wind up ( I hope they have figured that out).
To let you in on it. I have stated that I am on the pat n mick. It passes the time. It is mostly not serious although coincidentally it has become serious for some and I wouldn't joke about that.
Now the hard part for you is to figure out who or what is the real me in other topics.
Relax I know I am. happy.gif It is not literal. Stephen King is not a mad axe murderer. You catch my drift.

I think you're a POUFFE.
mortonjag 2010-01-27 20:26:51

QUOTE(Fellow Traveller @ Jan 27 2010, 07:02 PM) [snapback]703306[/snapback]
Jim, when I intimated my intention to stand down the chairman made it clear that he did not intend to reappoint a new Trust rep but that he would rather appoint a rep for fans in general. After discussions on how this might be done it was agreed that as the Trust was the supporters organisation which had most shares in the club then the fans rep should come initially from the Trust. I advised the board that if the Trust were asked to propose a rep our agreed choice would be Stuart and this was accepted. So Stuart is the Trust rep on the board but he has been asked by the board to also represent the fans in general. Hope this helps. .........................FT

Has he had any success in that capacity and if so can you give some examples please?
mortonjag 2010-01-27 20:28:45
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 27 2010, 08:21 PM) [snapback]703343[/snapback]
or a racist maybe ?

A racist bigot POUFFE peut etre?
mortonjag 2010-01-27 20:30:45
QUOTE(bigstu22 @ Jan 27 2010, 05:57 PM) [snapback]703249[/snapback]
What is it with all the idiots on here demanding answers to this and demanding answers to that? Do you really think it's your God-given right as fans to know every single thing that is going on behind the scenes. Any company has an obligation to keep those affiliated to it informed-of course. However, there is not a company/organisation in the world that operates with the kind of transparency DEMANDED here sometimes. Does it make the guilty ones amongst the posters feel more important somehow? How sad.

I know I'll get slated with the 'oh no, not another 'this board isn't what it used to be' thread' but maybe there is a bloody good reason these threads come up regularly. There seems to be a hard core of posters here now who just aren't happy unless they are creating some kind of scandal. Get a life.

That is all

Debating? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-27 20:34:40
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 27 2010, 06:57 PM) [snapback]703302[/snapback]
Still peddling this one, absolutely hilarious.

It's good to make people happy.

I assume that your amusement indicates that you have evidence to the contrary. smile.gif

Other, that is, than the tales of the demented fudge packer! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-27 21:12:53
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 27 2010, 08:58 PM) [snapback]703386[/snapback]
If you know who it is, and you are always asking questions, why dont you let everyone know, sorry, but you are getting beyond a joke now Ernie. You only say things on here, you never attend anything thats organised for the fans to express any concerns that you keep ranting about on here, if you have questions needing asked ask the persons face to face rather than constantly boring the tits off everyone on here, you are like a broken record.

Why don't you go and take a flying f*ck to yourself Alan?

This message board's had more new aliases in the last couple of days than in the previous two years.

And talking of 'broken records' what you've just said has been said hunners of times before!

Has it made one iota of difference to Mortonjag?

Those who do not learn from history are condemned to relive it. wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-27 22:05:54 Andy, thanks for taking the trouble to write all that.

Putting aside your personal feelings, can you just clarify a couple of points for me - and those are genuine questions.

If you are only a trust member, how come you had access to the accounts, and who prepared the said accounts.

I'd also like to understand where the alleged discrepancy of £4,800 fits into the big picture.

I'm genuinely confused by all of this especially when I've heard that the police went through all the paperwork and decided there was no charge to answer.

And Andy, can I just add that you and I have got on well in the past, and that this is in no way a dig at you. It's just that the more I hear the less I understand what the whole thing has been about.

Ernie
mortonjag 2010-01-27 22:45:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 27 2010, 09:40 PM) [snapback]703423[/snapback]
wub.gif wub.gif

Time for a wee hug, you two ?

It'll all be resolved when Ghostie's period comes! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-27 22:50:02
QUOTE(bigstu22 @ Jan 27 2010, 08:50 PM) [snapback]703376[/snapback]
No, MJ. 'Creating' is a word I purposely used.



QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 27 2010, 10:14 PM) [snapback]703454[/snapback]
Did MJ create the Stars of 79 "scandal" ???

I see no reference to him in Andy's detailed post.

Apparently so. Perhaps I shall open a proper school for scandal creation.
mortonjag 2010-01-27 22:56:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 27 2010, 10:48 PM) [snapback]703496[/snapback]
wot if it's late, doctor ?

AJC will emigrate.
mortonjag 2010-01-27 23:25:23
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 27 2010, 11:08 PM) [snapback]703513[/snapback]
Well done Andy that was very enlightening. I hope you don't take too much flack from posting that as it's kept the fans informed on something we all wanted answers on.
I know it doesn't answer everything we want to know, but at least it's something.

So, would any of the organisers wish to do the same as Andy and inform us of what happened ???

I'm honestly beginning to wonder if ANYTHING happened.

Is it at all possible that there was an initial misunderstanding of the figures. An apparent discrepancy on the price of a corkscrew or even rather hefty looking 'phone bills plus a few other odds and ends hardly adds up to £4800, yet it appears that the Trust heid bummers identified an apparent deficit of that dimension when they (having no choice I guess) went to the police.

It also seems to me that despite the police having stated that all charges have been dropped and that the matter is closed, some folk still believe that that was 'only because there was not enough evidence'.

Given that the charges related to a sum of £4800 and given what Andy has said, there was NEVER going to be enough evidence to explain away £4800 ON THE BASIS OF THOSE ACCOUNTS - yet £4800 was stated to be missing.

It's all very confusing. As I said at the beginning, I'm beginning to wonder if ANYTHING happened.

mortonjag 2010-01-27 23:27:11
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jan 27 2010, 11:10 PM) [snapback]703515[/snapback]
Take a look at this link
http://www.wineware.co.uk/Professional-%2F...l-Mounted-1.htm
We should be grateful one of the top four wasn't purchased.

That actually made me smile! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-27 23:29:05
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 27 2010, 11:26 PM) [snapback]703530[/snapback]
Aye whatever

Not arrived I see! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-27 23:44:14
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 27 2010, 11:31 PM) [snapback]703538[/snapback]
mellow.gif

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mortonjag 2010-01-27 23:51:27
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 27 2010, 11:39 PM) [snapback]703545[/snapback]
If we only hear one side of the story then we can only go on what Andy has posted to give us any sort of understanding to what happened.
Why was there more than one set of accounts for instance ?
Was there receipts for the amount of drink purchased for the night ? Surely you can work out how much the bar made from that ? Especially if you know how much you charged on the night.

I'm not pointing the finger at anyone, but surely if Andy is prepared to be honest with the fans, others should do the decent thing.

To which others are you referring ?
mortonjag 2010-01-27 23:53:16
QUOTE(.:BrIDo:. @ Jan 27 2010, 11:46 PM) [snapback]703552[/snapback]
The trust will never have enough money to be the majority shareholder. And even if they did, where would they get the money to buy more players?

That seems a reasonable statement.

What do you see as the Trust's function?
mortonjag 2010-01-27 23:55:51
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Jan 27 2010, 11:54 PM) [snapback]703558[/snapback]
I also believe that there is a Trust section to this forum, and any posts regarding the Trust should be in there. TBH all these posts are getting tiresome...

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Time for bed then? smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-27 23:58:49
QUOTE(Deego @ Jan 27 2010, 11:57 PM) [snapback]703561[/snapback]
I may be wrong but I'm sure the minutes of the meeting will be for the Members section of the site.

Might be wrong tho.

Won't get many reads then.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 00:32:07
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 28 2010, 12:30 AM) [snapback]703571[/snapback]
laugh.gif It ain't me.

Am I you?
mortonjag 2010-01-28 00:33:00
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Jan 28 2010, 12:07 AM) [snapback]703565[/snapback]
Seem to be a few people asking questions of the Trust. Are any of you planning on going to their Open Meeting on Sunday?

Link with details about the above...

No change at the top then?
mortonjag 2010-01-28 00:35:15
QUOTE(Andy M @ Jan 27 2010, 11:32 PM) [snapback]703539[/snapback]
Ernie - I think you might be missing something here - what i have stated in my post is nowhere near the full accounts that were submitted. Its just a few points that i picked out that i found odd. I hope the full accounts DO come out in time, but thats not really for me to do, especially since i dont profess to be an accountant.

Fair enough. Perhaps the Trust will be able to have an independent accountant go over the stuff.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 00:37:35
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Jan 28 2010, 12:35 AM) [snapback]703577[/snapback]
Doesn't look like it.

Will you be attending the meeting?

Damned if I do and damned if I don't. Unfortunately I have a prior engagement - not in London though.

I have hired a van to deliver a three piece suite to a friend's house. smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 00:38:46
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 28 2010, 12:34 AM) [snapback]703574[/snapback]
blink.gif Who am I again? Oh christ I forget. laugh.gif

I'm Christ and you're Christ risen again.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 00:41:10
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 28 2010, 12:38 AM) [snapback]703580[/snapback]
Now that does sound like an idea but shirley the cops would have done that ?

Probably if not definitely, but the cops investigation will have have focused on Willy Man's guilt/innocence rather than on accounting for every penny that flew about from the first ticket sale till lights out.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 00:45:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 28 2010, 12:34 AM) [snapback]703575[/snapback]
That has had only 2,000 views.

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He was entitled to be proven wrong as usual.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 00:47:23
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Jan 28 2010, 12:42 AM) [snapback]703583[/snapback]
Remember to lift from your legs... smile.gif

Don't worry and I'll be trussed just in case!
mortonjag 2010-01-28 00:49:49
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 28 2010, 12:45 AM) [snapback]703585[/snapback]
What were the allegations again? blink.gif
It is good night from me. Good night. laugh.gif

...and it's good night from him.


Good night! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 00:50:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 28 2010, 12:44 AM) [snapback]703584[/snapback]
With what purpose ?

To spend more money ?

What was banked from the event is now history.

The Trust can only move forward - and next Sunday is a great start.

To satisfy all parties?
mortonjag 2010-01-28 00:53:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 28 2010, 12:47 AM) [snapback]703588[/snapback]
Come on MJ, why such reticence to be involved, cobber ?

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The suite can wait - this is an opportunity to show what you can contribute.

Iain, I'm honestly not joking. Mairi's been pestering me for days to arrange to deliver that suite and I booked and paid for the van (Boulevard -cheapest in town!) this morning.

If the Trust had only consulted me first. Anyway you seem to be quite upbeat about this meeting.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 00:55:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 28 2010, 12:53 AM) [snapback]703592[/snapback]
Would it not be a "waste" of limited funds ?

Who is the Treasurer of the Trust ?

We have an on board (very well) qualified accountant. Perhaps he might be willing to help.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 00:57:36 What is it called in your house?
mortonjag 2010-01-28 01:00:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 28 2010, 12:57 AM) [snapback]703594[/snapback]
Re-book it then.

The Ton comes first.


You know it makes sense.

Or are you hen pecked MJ ?

What would I be able to do as a non Trust member and persona non grata in Trust circles?

mortonjag 2010-01-28 01:09:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 28 2010, 01:06 AM) [snapback]703599[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Sunday is a RECRUITMENT day.

Get involved.

Make a contribution.

I'll email you in the morning. I've already been in touch with the revolutionaries re a possible role in a re-vamped Trust, should that happen.

The Monkey's had his bath and awaits his cuddles! blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 06:53:47
QUOTE(Fellow Traveller @ Jan 28 2010, 01:21 AM) [snapback]703609[/snapback]
When did you become a persona non grata? Was that agreed at a meeting I missed? Its been suggested many times on this board (including by me) that you should join the Trust but you never seem to have got round to it. .........................FT

Every single time I've dared to criticise the Trust or question its activities. The abuse I took was often very distasteful.

What has just happened is a sure vindication of my question a couple of years back about accountability - a question which was met with concerted abuse and quickly transferred to the Trust forum to take it out of the embarrassing limelight. In my opinion the Trust Committe AND the moderators of this pubic massage board have much to answer for in terms of systematically silencing sincere questions about the Trust.

I have also vigorously published my impression of the Trust (committee) as a secret society.

It has not only been secret from the public and the members, but there have been so many inside 'secrets' that a missing few bob from a drunken bash has been turned into an Agatha Christie thriller, and a well meaning member's reputation potentially in tatters because certain people have had too much unquestioned power.

I have steadfastly refused to join the Trust because it has been a waste of money. If things palpably change I shall reconsider.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 07:10:21
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 27 2010, 10:30 PM) [snapback]703472[/snapback]
That’s because it veers from bona fide mentalist to your run-of-the-mill idiot. It’s hard to tell them apart at times.

Peter looks in the mirror minus his 'Gregory's!
mortonjag 2010-01-28 07:14:52
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jan 28 2010, 02:04 AM) [snapback]703617[/snapback]
He has a point MJ

His point is invalid. Advances in IT have made virtual face to face encounters part of modern living.

It's one of the oldest and most pathetic cop outs in the book. 'You wouldn't say that to my face' = 'I can't beat your logic but I'd like to beat you head in'. PATHETIC IN THE EXTREME.

Just the usual red herring from folk who cannot cope with Mortonjag's brilliance! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 07:23:40
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 28 2010, 05:46 AM) [snapback]703625[/snapback]
MJ, the trail is cold.

There are missing documents and there MAY be some missing funds.

However, it will never be known.

With as Andy said, the bucket left in a taxi and money left in the Town Hall, etc things could have been a lot worse.

[b]Time to move on.[/b]

And book for the next Trust Open Day so that you can give Mairi sufficient notice.

So Willy Man will get no further abuse on this massage board from this minute on? rolleyes.gif

When will it be time to move on for Willy Man.

I'd suggest that that will only come if and when he is fully and openly vindicated.

I'd also suggest that certain people are extremely anxious that that should not happen.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 07:28:23
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Jan 28 2010, 01:01 AM) [snapback]703598[/snapback]
Poo.

That's a modern generation word and kiddie friendly. When we were weans it was formally called 'doing a job'. Even 'jobby' was considered a bit risque in the fifties! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 07:51:27
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 28 2010, 07:36 AM) [snapback]703634[/snapback]
Aye. All they do is eat, s***e and bite.

Still busy with yer piles I see! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 07:59:29 Clowns to the right of me...clowns to the left
mortonjag 2010-01-28 09:23:22
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 28 2010, 08:52 AM) [snapback]703651[/snapback]
Aye but there's a bigger gene pool there. I'd wager not many of their parents married their first cousin. mellow.gif

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QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 28 2010, 09:13 AM) [snapback]703665[/snapback]
Iain, you've been the voice of reason throughout this whole debacle.

But don't you know that in all things Morton, there is no future.
Only the past, happening over and over again.

Sadly, that's the open opinion of too many people associated with this board who just love it being so, cos it makes their day/week/month/year to be able to come on here and moan about how pish everything to do with the club is.

If they devoted even HALF of that energy to making a difference we'd be flying it in no time - off the field, on the terraces, on the pitch.

But it's easier to throw stones than it is to lay them. Always has been, always will.

TonInDublin

ps this is not aimed at Colkitto, who you were replying to - in case he or others think it was.
You all know who you are.

That's a very wise saying TiD.

It is also necessary to demolish before reconstruction can commence. blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 09:24:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 28 2010, 08:46 AM) [snapback]703649[/snapback]
Too bloody right, Puggs.

I know that at least 2 members of the Trust Board would welcome MJ's involvement.

Come on MJ, put yer **** on the block, cobber.

Mortonjag always keeps an open mind.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 09:27:06
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 28 2010, 08:32 AM) [snapback]703643[/snapback]
And so is Mentaljag. As ever.

You have been invited to the cellar for injection of those piles Mr Edwards! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 09:29:23
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 28 2010, 09:26 AM) [snapback]703671[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Better an open mind than an open ****.

Have a go, mate.


You know you have the support.

Would the monkey be allowed to put in his tuppenceworth too? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 09:32:52
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 28 2010, 08:21 AM) [snapback]703639[/snapback]
I'm wondering who did the most damage over the last 30 years: Thatcher/Major or Blair/Brown ? Eeksy Peeksy Even Stevens I'd reckon.

Edit to change: Blair/Brown, for being the shabbiest of con artists. At least we knew what to expect from the Tories. Now we now what to expect from another Labour government: Lies, lies and more lies.

I've never understood the blind hatred of Mrs Thatcher. She was indubitably a wicked witch - a stubborn arrogant and thrawn right winger of the most distasteful type but what you saw was what you got.

Bliar and Brown - I'd have Maggie any day compared to those squids.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 09:35:13
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 28 2010, 08:58 AM) [snapback]703658[/snapback]
Steven Purcell Labour leader of Glasgow City Council....I'm afraid that says it all. rolleyes.gif

Homophobe! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 09:36:58
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jan 28 2010, 09:31 AM) [snapback]703674[/snapback]
No s*** man, and here's me thinking from your previous posts on the subject that you knew everything about everything.

s*** what a let down you are mad.gif


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mortonjag 2010-01-28 09:39:12
QUOTE(EBu @ Jan 28 2010, 08:40 AM) [snapback]703646[/snapback]
Mud Monkey, Fudge Dragon, Dropping the Kids off at the Pool, Unloading the sphincter cannon.

We're a very forward thinking household.

I've always thought that 'keech', and 'turd' were very apt descriptions.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 09:41:00
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 28 2010, 09:37 AM) [snapback]703679[/snapback]
FFS - any more excuses/questions ?

Have a go, Joe.

How many members of the Trust board do you need to ask for your help ?

3 ?

4 ?

5 ?

6 ?

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Mortonjag is always open to suggestions! blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 09:48:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 28 2010, 09:43 AM) [snapback]703682[/snapback]
Amazingly, Spot Ton, MJ knows so much about the Stars of 79 night that he could write a book.

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

MJ, would you donate the proceeds to the academy ?

huh.gif

If I believed it was going to be properly structured and managed I most certainly would.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 09:50:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 28 2010, 09:46 AM) [snapback]703683[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Shirley, you have had more than enough suggestions from several members of the Board of the Trust.

MJ, wot do they have to do - marry you ???

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Mortonjag has not had any proposals as such! sad.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 09:51:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 28 2010, 08:48 AM) [snapback]703650[/snapback]
Better still - take the BIG M double

Morton and Murray.

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After the treatment AD got, I suggest that's a rather lame call.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 09:52:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 28 2010, 09:51 AM) [snapback]703687[/snapback]
huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif

The academy or your book ??

blink.gif blink.gif

My book will be a best cellar.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 10:14:34
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 28 2010, 09:54 AM) [snapback]703689[/snapback]
Only if you have access to Andy's file.

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I'm sure Andy will give me access if I ask nicely. May it be done in the cellar?
mortonjag 2010-01-28 10:17:07
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 28 2010, 09:58 AM) [snapback]703690[/snapback]
Hi FT
Thanks for that information. I appreciate it.
1)Is that the only alternative? Have all other avenues an ideas been exhausted ?
2)I like the idea also of the Middlesborough set up where it isn't just starlets that can play football that The Trust/Academy should focus on but the wider fan base and their needs and skills . It was seemed very much to be the hub for Community Learning Projects. for all. That looked a great idea for me personally. A real win win situation for the Club and the fans.
Thanks again FT.

mad.gif Proof positive that the Guv ain't MJ! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 10:18:22
QUOTE(Savo @ Jan 28 2010, 10:17 AM) [snapback]703693[/snapback]
Totally agree, we are maximum bet material this weekend.

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I too am convinced we'll win!
mortonjag 2010-01-28 10:26:38
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 28 2010, 10:23 AM) [snapback]703696[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

The Guvnor PMed me yesterday evening (your time).

He was shocked and stunned ... and embarrassed that he could be confused with yourself.

The next time that DDFR heads out the the centre at Cappielow, it may help everyone if you both accompany him.

AH! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 10:27:33
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 28 2010, 10:20 AM) [snapback]703695[/snapback]
Thats where this board has gone.

Still waiting I see! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 10:29:25
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 28 2010, 10:25 AM) [snapback]703697[/snapback]
Why ask me ?

Ask the monkey.

Will do as soon as he gets back from the dentist's.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 10:34:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 28 2010, 10:29 AM) [snapback]703704[/snapback]
Do I need to name names ?

And then head to the bush to avoid Scotland's defamation laws.

MJ, THEY know who they are.

As do you.

MJ, stop ****ing around and put your **** on the block, digger.

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Dear Mr Rae,

I hope you won't mind my calling you Shoogly.

Shoogly, will it be all right with you if I join the band of busy beavers who are about to bugger your plans for immortality.

Yours in rectum,

Mortonjag.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 10:52:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 28 2010, 10:36 AM) [snapback]703708[/snapback]
Would that be a dental veterinarian or a veterinary dentist ?

I cannot believe that Glasgow is big enough for both.

He's just having his wisdom teeth polished Newt. You can still get that on the NHS if you know where to go.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 10:56:20
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jan 28 2010, 10:54 AM) [snapback]703714[/snapback]
My guess is that the Tilly heard the whispers and approached the Trust rather than the other way round. Something Stuart Duncan alluded to in a post a couple of weeks ago.

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Nae whisperer, nae whispers pal.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 11:07:31
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 28 2010, 10:50 AM) [snapback]703711[/snapback]
Feck off the pair of ye happy.gif
I think it is quite funny to think that I am now the new Dongaton. Dongaton for feck sake. Where are you when I need you ? Hey has anyone seen him lately? mmmmmm I wonder......... Nah! forget about it.
The worrying part for me is that there are people who cannae quite grasp that Wot you say may not be who you really are or what you really think.
Do these guys read Stephen King novels in first person and think that he is an axe murderer.
This has happened to me before where I wrote a poem and got into pretty serious bother because they thought it was my own personal views. It still happens today with e.g. Robert Burns.
What you write(your voice) is not who you are always in real life. You two know that but do others? I hope so.
God I will be glad to get back out into the real world.
This internet and chatroom is the new crack cocaine.
It is so addictive and can lead you down the path of misery I tell you!
I might need to go into rehab or over to facebook( I hear that is the methadone programme of weaning you off the social networking apparently. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Yer as daft as a bent bucket ya plamf.

QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 28 2010, 10:53 AM) [snapback]703713[/snapback]
Thanks on the grammar lesson again MJ. Do you have an English Literature background or is it Medical ?

Mortonjag studied English, History, and French at a proper University before transferring his brilliant mind to the much simpler matter of learning lots and lots of facts. Medical school is the province of arrogant young sponges.

Having graduated in medicine six years later, Mortonjag embarked on the long process of learning from his day to day mistakes how to become the old dear hunter par excellence.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 11:10:25
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jan 28 2010, 11:01 AM) [snapback]703718[/snapback]
It takes more than a whisper Nanci.

And ffs don't ever call me pal laugh.gif

Awrite Jessie, was it you that spit on Willy Man? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 11:14:43
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 28 2010, 10:37 AM) [snapback]703709[/snapback]
And it's folk like you that has sent it down

Why thank you kind Sir! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 11:20:58 Thirty eight at the moment - still busy for a Thursday morning.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 11:23:25
QUOTE(StillTON @ Jan 28 2010, 11:21 AM) [snapback]703726[/snapback]
JJ's house is in Inverclyde check the post code then speak!

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Mortonjag's parents honeymooned in Skelmorlie. Mortonjag would hate to think that his dearly departed Dad first got his hole among tattie howkers.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 11:31:05 What you don't see can't hurt you!
mortonjag 2010-01-28 11:34:04
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 28 2010, 11:27 AM) [snapback]703728[/snapback]
laugh.gif Now that is funny.I wish I was James Joyce.
I was trying to explain that sometimes people write delibrately "Wrong" for a reason other than lack of education.
James Joyce hardly ever put in inverted commas in his work. He did this to indicate to the reader that he was liberating his views on Ireland . He called them perverted commas and his view was that the Rules were set up by the Establishment to keep other people from truely expressing themselves.
It is a bit heavy to understand but writers can and do break all the "Rules" if they so wish.
I do the same or I am trying to but nowhere as good as James Joyce.
I am not saying that I do not make real "mistakes" also and I have done it more than usual because I have been absolutely exhausted as I have been on the pat n Mick and on pain killers.
Can I also point out that my voice on here is not the "real" me. It is just a wind up a lot of the time.
I could be anybody coming on here in e.g. a 78 year old retired music teacher from Exeter called Margaret Wobblebottom who sits at home with her little chihuahua Hector as her only true companion or a 42 year old car mechanic from Millwaukee called Chuck Benson. You catch my drift! It is just character writing.
That is most of the time. This is the real TGG. I think ?

Humphrey! mad.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 11:41:29
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jan 28 2010, 11:33 AM) [snapback]703733[/snapback]
Alright folks, the mrs and I are looking for a car, decent size and condition, but we've not got that much to spend. Looking to keep it below £700 if possible.

We're going to have a look at an Astra estate at the weekend for £450 which sounds too good to be true, so if anyone knows of anything similar around, give me a shout.

Cheers, Darren.

Hi Darren, you can pick up real bargains at this time of year on Scottish Autotrader. When you're down at about £700 you've really got to buy privately (which I suspect you intend to do).

In my opinion you are wiser to go for makes with a reputation for longevity and reliability rather than just buying a newer car in the 'Korean' bracket. I'd also advise you to be careful of buying from friends and family as things can go sour with nobody to blame.

I'd suggest targeting a VW Golf diesel wih a full service history if at all possible.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 11:43:51
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 28 2010, 11:39 AM) [snapback]703736[/snapback]
Now I like that. Have you seen her Humphrey ? The little rascal is always playing games and pops up at the most unexpected times. laugh.gif

I have and she's actually a retired ballet tutor.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 11:46:38
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 28 2010, 11:39 AM) [snapback]703737[/snapback]
D).

You should never go bum to mouth or bum to fanny.

For obvious reasons.

If she had just played a tune on the throbbing pink oboe, and gummed the muck, then I would of course winch the face off her.

I'm an infra guy.

Infra penny, infra pound.

Enough winching and when the old lad gets a bit of a lift in him again, thats the time to drop anchor in pooh bay.

Which, by the way, is magic ! And the birds love it. Starts off with mild moaning as you establish base camp with your finger in her rim, then reaches a crescendo as you make a push for the summit with your purple battering ram. And you can reach round and play with her wee man in the boat at the same time, or if she's sitting up on top of you she can flick the bean herself.

Lovely hurling.

Bonus if you come out with your helmet corn free.

TonInDublin

That's extremely rude! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 11:57:24
QUOTE(king_bob @ Jan 28 2010, 11:50 AM) [snapback]703744[/snapback]
Some great shots by Murray to get through to the Final. Come on Andy you can win this for Scotland ph34r.gif

For MUNNY you mean! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 12:12:09
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 28 2010, 12:04 PM) [snapback]703746[/snapback]
laugh.gif Have you ever seen her dance? I hear it is a sight to behold. blink.gif
She likes to invite guests over for a spot of light supper and some entertainment .
The highlight of the show is just as she reveals her derriere to her audience her little Humphrey pops out.
The rascal is hard to keep under control sometimes and can get her into all sorts of awkward situations. blink.gif

Indeed, though I've just heard from Dr Shypmann that he's prescribed a ring pessary. She's dying to try it in.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 12:14:08
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 28 2010, 12:07 PM) [snapback]703748[/snapback]
I thought Tattieland was over the Gorbals way?

Further East, Sir, unless you refer to the Sheriff Court! blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 12:27:52
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 28 2010, 12:24 PM) [snapback]703754[/snapback]
Surely the police would have gone to the relevant people for answers and therefore I would assume that the answers they got were sufficiently answered for no charges to be brought.
Scott you would be ideal to run something like this. Your second point is very pertinent.
laugh.gif laugh.gif

You would imagine that they'd have considered all possibilities in an attempt to establish whether or not any money had disappeared.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 12:29:59
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jan 28 2010, 12:26 PM) [snapback]703756[/snapback]
Deletion for this pish.

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Only fifteen now -less wee tongues hanging out! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 12:32:38
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jan 28 2010, 12:25 PM) [snapback]703755[/snapback]
yeah your right, the pretence of giving a s***e about equality and poverty, at least the tories nail their colours to the mast.

in fact that bnp sympathising toerag phil woolas was on daily politics yesterday claiming "social mobility" had increased under labour, but social mobility is an abstract concept, its like saying that empathy has increased under labour

If Ms. Keeler had been more liberal under the tories she'd have been in labour more than once.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 12:57:44
QUOTE(gorkir @ Jan 28 2010, 12:56 PM) [snapback]703765[/snapback]
A waste of time.
They dont really serve any purpose.

Unless you are Mr. Rae.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 13:00:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 28 2010, 12:53 PM) [snapback]703764[/snapback]
FFS - a bottler is VERY positive.

Nothing like bottling it.

As previously suggested, put yer money on the two Ms this weekend.

P.S. I trust that neither bottler nor ripper are racist ? ! ? !
http://www.koalanet.com.au/australian-slang.html
bottler = something EXCELLENT

Over here Newt, a 'bottler' is a 'bawbag' - somebody who chickens out.

Is the wee Mummy's boy from Dunblane perceived over there as Scottish?
mortonjag 2010-01-28 13:02:26
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 28 2010, 12:58 PM) [snapback]703767[/snapback]
you'll be in london tongue.gif

Watch it kiddo - Mortonjag might be somewhere MUCH closer to you! blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 13:04:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 28 2010, 01:02 PM) [snapback]703772[/snapback]

Murray looks a ripper of a bet.

The Perthshire Ripper.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 13:06:10
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jan 28 2010, 12:43 PM) [snapback]703761[/snapback]
Thanks for the info. We've been looking at trying to pick up an estate to be honest due to the size, which might come in handy for moving some stuff to Austria that we're planning on doing later in the year.

Spoke to a gentleman from Helensburgh that's selling an Astra Estate 1.6, 11 years old with 2 previous owners. All looks pretty good so I'll go have a look at it this weekend. I don't even have my licence yet so the good lady will be doing all the driving until I pass, which is possibly going to kill us insurance-wise as her driving licence is non-UK. Looking at around double the value of the Astra for a year's insurance, which doesn't fill me with more excitement.

A diesel would be the preferred option, but decent runners at the price we're looking at are hard to come by.

The search continues.

Good luck.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 13:16:14
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jan 28 2010, 12:43 PM) [snapback]703761[/snapback]
Thanks for the info. We've been looking at trying to pick up an estate to be honest due to the size, which might come in handy for moving some stuff to Austria that we're planning on doing later in the year.

Spoke to a gentleman from Helensburgh that's selling an Astra Estate 1.6, 11 years old with 2 previous owners. All looks pretty good so I'll go have a look at it this weekend. I don't even have my licence yet so the good lady will be doing all the driving until I pass, which is possibly going to kill us insurance-wise as her driving licence is non-UK. Looking at around double the value of the Astra for a year's insurance, which doesn't fill me with more excitement.

A diesel would be the preferred option, but decent runners at the price we're looking at are hard to come by.

The search continues.

Darren I had a quick scan of Autotrader and there aint many estates around that fit your price and look reliable. This is outside your stated budget, but it's the sort of info you want -low mileage, full serivice history etc. Bear in mind that you can fold the back seat forward in a hatchback and it becomes a mini-estate car.
VW Golf
mortonjag 2010-01-28 13:20:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 28 2010, 01:14 PM) [snapback]703780[/snapback]
Gidday China,

and piss off.

http://www.koalanet.com.au/australian-slang.html#R
Rip snorter : great, fantastic - "it was a rip snorter of a party"

Ripper : great, fantastic - "it was a ripper party"

Ripper, you little! : Exclamation of delight or as a reaction to good news

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mortonjag 2010-01-28 13:21:23 I propose Kojak.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 13:23:17
QUOTE(Caltonfan @ Jan 28 2010, 01:21 PM) [snapback]703789[/snapback]
maybe if some of the idiots on here who are full of hot air put their money were their big mouths are and got involved instead of taking every opportunity to criticise the trust and its members, something might change but then who could they blame if it all went wrong

I can see what you're driving at. I'd be cautious about allowing an idiot to head the new Trust though.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 13:32:32
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jan 28 2010, 01:29 PM) [snapback]703794[/snapback]
Cheers for that Ernie, it will certainly be considered although I do feel that it will be a little too small for what we're after, even with the seats folded down.

I'll have a wee nosey about on some sites later and see what I can come up with, but lots of the sort of car I'm after are available through word of mouth mainly, hence why I've posted on here.

There are also freebie mags out each week with loads of the cheaper cars in them. Quite a lot of folk who can only get less than a grand grudge paying much to advertise.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 14:07:04
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 28 2010, 01:58 PM) [snapback]703814[/snapback]
So...Mortonjag wont do it, but moan.

Yup, sh1tbag!

This is the first time I've replied to any of your posts for a couple of days. I have taken note of the fact that others have grown weary of our interaction, and think it's best that it stops.

What Mortonjag did say - NOT what you chose to make him have said - was that he has not received any proposals.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 14:12:25
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 28 2010, 01:58 PM) [snapback]703813[/snapback]
MJ I am coming to that conclusion myself. The Great Town Hall Robbery it was not.
The silence speaks volumes in my humble opinion and when little or no information comes out there is reasons for that.
The Tilly exclusive really says it all. No exclusive now the case has closed with No Charges. Why ?
The Tilly don't usually give this much press coverage to alleged misdemeanours in clubs.
It has happened loads of times and at best/or worse made a small piece in the Tilly. The actual '79 event never even had as much coverage and that says alot to me.

Well we can always watch the Tilly and see if it knows more than those who organised the event! blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 14:14:11
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jan 28 2010, 01:45 PM) [snapback]703804[/snapback]
Good shout, I seem to recall my old man buying the ScotAds magazine quite a bit a few years back now, I guess that is still knocking about.

I think you'll see at least one in Morrisons.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 16:36:40
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 28 2010, 03:19 PM) [snapback]703855[/snapback]
You 2 should give it a rest, who gives a **** if you are on the pat n mick and on the wind up, as for you MJ, ive yet to see a serious thread sticking to the original post when you are concerned.

You seem mentally exhausted to me Ghostie. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 16:42:25
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jan 28 2010, 04:31 PM) [snapback]703881[/snapback]
If you are going to continue posting s*** then at least use the general nonsense forum. Its people like you who are killing this message board.

Fifty nine at the moment, and again statistically VERY significant (unlike your opinion on this matter). wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 16:58:06
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 28 2010, 04:38 PM) [snapback]703884[/snapback]
Perfectly fine

Good chap - then kindly stop telling Mortonjag what to do -you're a grown man with a bit of intelligence, unlike 75% of our posters. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 17:43:13 Fifty six posters browsing at teatime on a Thursday. Has something been happening recently? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 17:47:06
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 28 2010, 05:18 PM) [snapback]703915[/snapback]
Bryan said you were more than welcome, and that at least 2 other trust members would take you with open arms.

So go on, it is there for the taken. Let your actions do the talkiing for once!

As I stated, Mortonjag has had no relevant proposals. Bryan has on more than one occasion invited Mortonjag into the lion's den. That preceded 'The night of the long knives'.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 17:56:13
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Jan 28 2010, 05:44 PM) [snapback]703931[/snapback]
naw yea canae say that after awe im haudin ma haunz up am the ultamate bawbag and proud oh it too blush.gif laugh.gif

howz about wee alex the brute or alexia bawless

Gie's a swatch at yer napper. If it looks more like a fitba' that this glaikit buffoon's -- you win!
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mortonjag 2010-01-28 17:58:48
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jan 28 2010, 03:34 PM) [snapback]703860[/snapback]
Female starfish is superb but wi a **** as big as mine it doesn't happen.......cant establish a sur footing never mind base camp....

Try yer knob.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 18:13:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 28 2010, 06:10 PM) [snapback]703948[/snapback]
CODE
I was asked, and shat it

Ok, just so we are all clear

You are really milking this beyond reason Stephen.

That is all.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 18:24:15
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 28 2010, 04:47 PM) [snapback]703892[/snapback]
Having given your last couple of post a few minutes of thought it actually takes me back to Andy's original post when answering the one above, the night itself was one of the best nights Ive ever attended, the guys seemed to have got everything spot on right down to the decorations on the tables but we now have guys detracting from the main issue that is the alleged missing funds, phrases like the night was nothing more than an amateur piss up do the night a massive disservice.

Now for where Andy's initial post comes in, I think he has loaded the gun in some ways, the niggles and arguments between those organising the night are normal are they not, when you have 7-8 guys all putting their own thoughts across it's only natural some will disagree and others will feel their noses have been put out of joint, ok it was Andy and Dannys baby but if they didn't want anyone else to put any input to it they should have organised it themselves and left the trust out of it.

Having said that it does seem to me that the trust were guilty of leaving all the organising to 2 people, the trust have been guilty of this for years, the committee will turn up at meetings and promise you the world when planning an event but when it comes to the actual organising they disappear like snow off a dyke, I have been involved in joint fundraisers with the travel club and the trust and after the initial meeting only one trust member would be involved in the organisation and running of the event and he happened to be part of the travel club, not happy with taking no active part they would fail to turn up and support the event and to add insult to injury they would even post on their website later on telling how much they made and handed over to the benefactors without mentioning the travel club. Like someone said they are happy to take the plaudits but don't want to do the work. I think Andy and a few others would have been better keeping the petty squabbles off the board and sticking to what the real issue is here, the alleged missing money.

People have been asking a lot of questions without getting answers, It seems the trust are happy to go with 2 main people organised this event, can I ask why on an event of this size it was left to 2 people?


Willy man was one. Who was the other?
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 28 2010, 04:50 PM) [snapback]703893[/snapback]
Scott I might be wrong here but there was no bucket collection, well not one that I can remember anyway, I believe the bucket contained the raffle money and the program money

Was that the bucket that was allegedly left 'in a taxi'?


QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jan 28 2010, 05:36 PM) [snapback]703927[/snapback]
Years of training yes but common sense to write out a petty cash slip when paying out any monies helped.
At the end of the day if I felt I was struggling with something like the accounts or finances Id have posted on here asking for help which Im sure they would have had a few offers .

Someone should have managed the finances from start to finish

The main body of work is in the planning . A well planned event only needs 1 or 2 people to run it , Ive ran clubnights that took £8k on the door had 1000 people and took £13k on the bar on my own with 12 bar staff because I worked my ass off before we opened to make sure everything was fool proof

Surely there were catering staff looking after the food , Bar staff looking after the bar and once every one is in its just a case of walking round making sure the bar has change and everyone is happy .. I wasnt at the night so dont know what they were left to do on there own .

Was there no other comittee member there helping on the night ? .

The Idea and execution of the event was done well , just a pitty there wasnt a financial controller ensuring the finance's were in order .

Is it possible that two guys working their baws off (if Kojie's correct) and with no real accounting experience might have become a bit lackadaisical about every last penny being tracked. That especially when the evening was based on mutual trust?
mortonjag 2010-01-28 18:27:04
QUOTE(Zutons @ Jan 28 2010, 06:24 PM) [snapback]703965[/snapback]
who is jj? unsure.gif

So the old fud's blown it again.

DRAT! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 18:31:46
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 28 2010, 06:15 PM) [snapback]703957[/snapback]
Not denying it then, that's ok. As long as we are all clear smile.gif

No Stephen, it's common knowledge that Bryan has on a couple of occasions invited Mortonjag to meet with the Trust, though it's kind of you to remind 'us all'.

Mortonjag has declined, but in return invited Bryan and or Trust members to meet with him in his cellar. I think the bawgags may have shat out of it.

Do you think Willy Man was stitched up?

mortonjag 2010-01-28 18:34:28
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jan 28 2010, 06:29 PM) [snapback]703971[/snapback]
Accounting Experience ? All that had to be done was write out a petty cash slip for each expense then when it came to compiling accounts someone would have a track of the expenses ..

I dont doubt the guys put a hell of a lot of work into what was a great night for all who attended

My only question is what where the expenses and did we make a profit ?

What may seem simple to you may not be simple to others, especially if they are run off their feet. Would you know how to write out a prescription for a controlled drug? It is after all the most basic of tasks to somebody with experience. I suggest that you would not have a clue where to start.

Anyway, do YOU think Willy Man was stitched up?
mortonjag 2010-01-28 18:38:38 Sixty six now and it's the hiatus between teatime and the Soaps. Good gracious -they're all desperate for signing news! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 18:40:10
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 28 2010, 05:57 PM) [snapback]703938[/snapback]
What about just renaming him " the puppet "

Isn't that the name Kojie gave Mortonjag for telling the truth about AD? dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 18:46:53
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jan 28 2010, 06:39 PM) [snapback]703978[/snapback]
No but then again I would have the common sense to know that I shouldnt just hand it out without documenting it .

I wouldnt comment on the stitching up untill the following was cleared up .
Personally tho I dont think either of the organisers would steal/missapropriate the money , I would just like to see these issues cleared up and let us all move on from here

£300 Hospitality Expense
£1k + bar Tab at sales not cost price
Free tickets claimed as an expense
and different sets of accounts with different bar takings

Cheers Scott. You DON'T think Willy Man was stitched up, but you DO think the accounting was slapdash.

Why is it then that after the polis have put Willy Man through the mill and decided there is no case to answer, that people on here still seem to be baying for his head, and in particular, WHY HAVE STUART DUNCAN AND DANNY GRIFFIN WHO DROPPED HIM IN IT IN THE FIRST PLACE NOT COME OUT AND ADMITTED THAT THEIR BALLS UP WAS EVEN GREATER THAN A BIT OF SLOPPY ACCOUNTING?

Like yourself I would like to see those issues cleared up, and in particular I would like to know whether or not Willy Man was stitched up.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 18:55:40
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jan 28 2010, 06:49 PM) [snapback]703984[/snapback]
Sorry MJ but that is just lame. All of us handle cash everyday and I would expect all of us to understand what a receipt is, busy or not.

If anyone felt under pressure or not confident/competent to handle the accounting side I would hope that they would ask for help and that others would have listened to the request and acted accordingly.

It is NOT lame. Writing a prescription is second nature to me. You wouldn't have a clue where to start. Don't fall into Scotty's trap and imagine that just because YOU run a business two guys working their baws off and investing a helluvalotta trust in others' goodwill had the time to check and tick every last chitty.

THAT IS CRAZY!

Anyway, do you think Willy Man was stitched up?
mortonjag 2010-01-28 18:57:47
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Jan 28 2010, 04:51 PM) [snapback]703895[/snapback]
what piiiiiiish are you spoutin yet again peenis breathe

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It will be self evident to those with an IQ over 60.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 19:00:20
QUOTE(Ghost @ Jan 28 2010, 06:41 PM) [snapback]703980[/snapback]
Wasn't that something else that rhymed with it

I can't remember - he got quite upset and wanted to meet me personally to discuss matters. Frankly I thought he wanted to bop me, but he said 'no' and I think we're friends again.

It's a good idea to remain friends with Mortonjag! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 19:06:07
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jan 28 2010, 06:58 PM) [snapback]703989[/snapback]
As I said , I dont have enough information to make a decision , Dont let that put you off making your own mind up on what I think ..
Slapdash ? I havent seen the accounts but the impression I get is that the accounts are incorrect .. esp with the Sale price not cost price of the drink the £300 Hospitality the "free" seats claimed for in expenses . Can anyone explain these ?.. and why were more than 1 set of accounts submitted with different figures , can this be explained ?

We're all being given impressions all the time on what really happened. Where are those accounts which Andy described so graphically last night. Has Andy got the right end of the stick.

Gossip, and rumour in abundance, and so far as I can see the only FACT is that Willy Man was reported to the polis as a tea leaf and has been exonerated, and those who dropped him in it are MIGHTILY QUIET.



WHY?
mortonjag 2010-01-28 19:08:28 Seventy nine now. Any Tilly journalists out there.

KEEK chaps! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 19:23:51
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jan 28 2010, 07:02 PM) [snapback]703992[/snapback]
The point is if I didn't have a clue where to start then I wouldn't have considered myself suitable to do the job and I would have asked for assistance. I have no idea if that happened by the way.

As for anyone being stitched up I haven't a clue. However if I was involved with organising something that 'looked' like a profitable event I wouldn't be too surprised to be asked to account for it and if there were concerns about how I accounted for it for other questions to be asked.


The point is that you were NOT involved. I'd probably have done the same as you. The guys probably got some things wrong. Was malice intended? Was money deliberately stolen. The police seem to have decided that the answer to that is NO.
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jan 28 2010, 07:04 PM) [snapback]703993[/snapback]
For that reason I have been very careful to say whether it was deliberate or not , I have only pointed out what I think is wrong and have asked for someone to explain it for me . Is it wrong of me to ask

I would love someone to come out and clear it all up because I think there would be a few appologies owed but the truth is .. We dont have enough information to speculate we can only ask questions and hope to get answers

We have an abundance of information on which to speculate. I DO agree, however, that there are people who can throw more light on the matter and who for some reason seem reluctant so to do.

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 28 2010, 07:09 PM) [snapback]703997[/snapback]
Explain ?



What is there to explain? If two honest decent and upstanding guys reported an apparent misdoing to the police, and the police decided they had been genuinely mistaken, surely they would have held up their hands by now and apologised!
mortonjag 2010-01-28 19:48:49
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 28 2010, 07:24 PM) [snapback]704003[/snapback]
If you are going to be fair about it. Willowman has been MIGHTILY QUIET. WHY?

On legal advice?

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 28 2010, 07:26 PM) [snapback]704005[/snapback]
Is that the case ?

It certainly appears so. Have you evidence to the contrary.

QUOTE(BayTON @ Jan 28 2010, 07:36 PM) [snapback]704011[/snapback]
Scott I think you answer your own questions on more than one of your posts here.

Accurate accounts
someone in charge of finance

all was in place from what I know

one vital flaw and I have seen it happen over and over again, in many walks of life and many businesses.

In fact I think it's a regular thing in the Tele. Those trusted to handle the control of it all are the very people stealing from it. Nowt can stop that happening, but the trust did one thing right. Once they noticed all was not correct, see checks were in place they gave those involved a chance to clear it up, not with coming police were called.

The police found no proof of who. So here we are

How many people handled money from the very moment the evening was incepted until the final paying into the bank?

Do you have enough fingers and tootsies to count all the opportunities to take a little that would 'never be missed'.

Is the taxi driver back from Gran Canaria yet?

Are you calling Willy Man a thief?

Do you think Willy Man was stitched up?

Are you willing to identify yourself?

mortonjag 2010-01-28 20:00:28
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 28 2010, 07:41 PM) [snapback]704016[/snapback]
He is for real, Newton stayed in my spare room for a couple of days about 3 years ago

I have spoken with him on the 'phone - well I spoke to somebody who said he was! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 20:05:15
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jan 28 2010, 07:52 PM) [snapback]704025[/snapback]
Was he the financial controller ?

Who left the bucket in a taxi* ? were they under the influence of alcohol when they did ?
*did this actually happen ?

laugh.gif Who knows. There are people out there who can tell us Scotty boy and they ain't for speaking and that seems odd to me.

QUOTE(BayTON @ Jan 28 2010, 07:54 PM) [snapback]704026[/snapback]
See you answer your own question once again.

The first accounts have none of this.

Also one big point, the free bar was for players only. But your right why was it claimed as sale price. Same with free tickets a few got those, but people like Andy's son and Joe Caven, and no one would dissagree them.

PROVE IT! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 28 2010, 07:56 PM) [snapback]704027[/snapback]
If Willowman cannot post due to legal advice then fair enough. But at least let us know if that is indeed the case.

I asked you to explain about Willowman being stitched up. You said "What is there to explain? If two honest decent and upstanding guys reported an apparent misdoing to the police, and the police decided they had been genuinely mistaken, surely they would have held up their hands by now and apologised!"

Are you saying that as fact or is it your opinion ?

The clue is in the highlighted word.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 20:16:33
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 28 2010, 07:56 PM) [snapback]704028[/snapback]
You don't half talk a load of old bull on here, mj.......

As I pointed out on the thread that was pulled, if members of the trust thought that there was money missing after the event then they were duty bound to inform the police. They would have been guilty of gross negligence had they not done so - and YOU would have been first in line to condemn them if it had come out that they had covered it up.

When the trust, AND those who were involved in organising the event, could not reconcile the figures they did the right thing in contacting the authorities, who would then have made their own investigations without being unduly influenced by anyone else.

You are assuming that members of the trust pointed the finger directly at Willowman. Do you have any evidence that that is the case? I'd say it's much more likely that the police themselves decided what line(s) of enquiry to follow; they are, of course, quite experienced in investigating suspected crimes.

Therefore, Willowman was NOT "stitched up" by anyone. Unless, of course, you can actually PROVE otherwise - and by that I don't mean your usual hints and innuendo.

I'm sure you are aware of all this, of course; you're just revelling in the chance to try to put yourself centre stage once again and stir things up amongst the regulars on here.

But it's becoming extremely tedious now.

Time for you to put up - or SHUT UP!!

You are the person who is doing the assuming matey. If you had a quarter of the knowledge and contacts Mortonjag has on this you'd understand a lot more.

Willowman WAS named as the suspect. Sorry to spoil your party, but that is a fact. Would you also like to know how many warts Shoogly has and exactly where. I'm yer man.

This is becoming extremely tedious - a grown up and marginally more intelligent version of wee Stephen the peed piper stalking mortonjag about the board and trying to discredit him at every twist and turn.

By all means continue to dig yourself deeper into your hole of lost credibility - if indeed you ever had any.

THOSE WHO KNOW KNOW MORTONJAG KNOWS!

Simples! wub.gif

PS.

Do try very hard to come back with an intelligent answer. Laughing at your own pathetic ripostes and puns may give you a hernia.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 20:24:04
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 28 2010, 08:08 PM) [snapback]704047[/snapback]
Well you better give us a better clue than that as it still doesn't make a bit of sense.. happy.gif

Spurtle you are awful but I like you. If you cannot analyse a simple sentence in English, it may be because you are an avid Nationalist! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 21:54:08 Still sixty four - the interest is maintained! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 22:09:17
QUOTE(BayTON @ Jan 28 2010, 09:50 PM) [snapback]704127[/snapback]
MJ
As I said before, money did go a miss, that is agreed by the Trust, Wilowman, and the police. BUT some at the trust over play events, which from what I can make of it hampered the truth, so, and this is from what I can make out, we do have a guilty party, but by story telling and over exacturating it hampered in any possible prosecution.
Running to the police with no official figures ran past an accountant, but Also it was hampered with the person in charge holding back invoices, receipts.
There are two sides to this story, but looking on it all, one is guilty of theft and the other guilty of organised a witch hunt and that lead to some wrong info being put across. Without this wrong info charges would have been brought.
Those are the poeple who should hand in their notice to the trust along with Willowman, who has already has.

Anyone who has a membership at the trust should demand a EGM.

Though I am no member of the trust, I say it will survive this if the truth is told.

If only the trust would place on the site a statement, would end one side. The other side needs to speak to.
A thief is just as bad as a a person with jealousy, both can do major harm to an organisation. Which is what has happened.


That is undoubtedly a possibility. It remains a fact that Willowman had no charges brought against him and that the matter is closed so far as the police are concerned.

That leaves the witchhunt.

If you are genuinely interested in the truth emerging (which I believe you are), it would assist your case no end if you can supply your identity and back up your statements with documentary evidence.

For my part, I DO know that Willowman was reported to the police by Stuart Duncan and Danny Goodwin, and that he was identified as the 'culprit'. I also DO know that the police carefully examined accounts and having done so decided Willowman has no case to answer. I DO NOT know if either Willowman or any other party has subsequently taken legal advice, which might explain the deafening silence.

I also DO know that posters who are currently attempting to suppress and discredit information from folk who genuinely want the truth to emerge are liable to look extremely foolish within the next few days.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 22:12:24
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Jan 28 2010, 08:10 PM) [snapback]704049[/snapback]
to remain a friend you must first become a friend and untill you lick my boots (or if you would prefer my arsh ) until then we will remain at keyboards lengths blink.gif

Why don't you post a picture of yer erse, and I'll decide what it's best to do with it? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 22:16:53 It depends. If I've had a good day at the keyboard I get off very quickly and in the winter I generally have between five and six hours. In summer it's about four.

If folk have been upsetting me I often lie awake for hours wondering what I've done wrong and eventually cry myself to sleep about 4 a.m., only to wake up an hour later bursting for a pish.

The great thing about being retired is that I can catch up on sleep during the day if needed.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 22:19:55
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jan 28 2010, 10:11 PM) [snapback]704145[/snapback]
In all this claim and counterclaim has the aforementioned Willowman ever posted on the subject and made his feelings known?

I remember a post earlier on in the week stating he will respond...Has he?

Nope. He stated that he would post 'later'. In that respect he has said nothing untoward. Perhaps his lawyer has advised him to remain silent.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 22:22:45
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 28 2010, 09:19 PM) [snapback]704104[/snapback]
yap yap yap

Did you ever get that overpriced flat in swanky land papped off Narcissus? wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 22:23:42
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 28 2010, 09:35 PM) [snapback]704117[/snapback]
when does the transfer window close anyway? i can't see the rest of the season being very enjoyable with just weatherson and graham/russell up front.

I didn't realise you actually went to games Narcissus.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 22:26:52
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 28 2010, 10:24 PM) [snapback]704157[/snapback]
yap
yap

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mortonjag 2010-01-28 22:27:50
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 28 2010, 10:25 PM) [snapback]704158[/snapback]
The thing for me is even the most basic questions are not getting answered for some reason.

Who were the organisers ?

Is there a legal restriction on any party to not let them respond with statements here or elsewhere ?

Who was in charge of the finance ? And who authorised the payments for free bars, hospitality etc

Who was in charge of the "bucket" ? Was it left in a Taxi ?

How many accounts were actually submitted ?

I'd imagine it'll all come out in the Tilly pretty soon.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 22:30:25
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 28 2010, 09:23 PM) [snapback]704109[/snapback]
I wouldn't be against one, but i don't feel we need one. It's always interesting to get more detail about whats happening at the club but i'm not going to lose any sleep over it and there isn't anything majorly bugging me about the club. An in-depth interview with Dougie from the tele would do me fine.

Our celebrity Big Brother? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 22:33:26
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 28 2010, 10:32 PM) [snapback]704163[/snapback]
yap

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mortonjag 2010-01-28 22:45:52 Only fifty now - the children are gradually being tucked in! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 22:47:35
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jan 27 2010, 03:24 PM) [snapback]703146[/snapback]
This thread has nothing to do with The Trust or The Chairman so run along little man and spunk your inane bile all over someone else's thread.

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mortonjag 2010-01-28 22:51:38
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 28 2010, 09:46 PM) [snapback]704125[/snapback]
one of my earliest crimes was stealing from the school library.

i read a while back that there is a belief that salinger kept writing after he went into seclusion and there are loads of unpublished manuscripts in his house. i imagine his executors are practically being mobbed by publishers right now.

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mortonjag 2010-01-28 22:52:51
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jan 28 2010, 10:49 PM) [snapback]704173[/snapback]
Any suggestions for to help me get to sleep anyone ?

PS Not including getting blootered and passing out/sleeping that way lol

The causes of insomnia are myriad.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 22:54:39
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 28 2010, 09:22 PM) [snapback]704106[/snapback]
skelmorlie's in north ayrshire. i should know wink.gif

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mortonjag 2010-01-28 23:05:25
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jan 28 2010, 10:54 PM) [snapback]704177[/snapback]
I would probably blame the fact that I cant switch off when I goto bed , Stress at times also has caused it . Ive tried Nytol etc and doesnt help sad.gif

My elder son has had the same problem since he was in his early teens. He's tried everything without much success. Some folk are just bad sleepers. sad.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 23:07:25
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Jan 28 2010, 10:55 PM) [snapback]704178[/snapback]
Whilst sipping at a wee bowmore which my good lady serves up to me every night in the study I have came to the conclusion I'd rather not let your dried out junkie lips near my erse but instead you can run your tounge round my dobermans ring how does that suit you,then I will consider if we have a friend ship in the making rolleyes.gif

I'll stick my knob up your Doberman's erse if it'll keep you happy! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 23:19:19
QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Jan 28 2010, 11:13 PM) [snapback]704181[/snapback]
Used to be four companies but there is only so much time in the day mellow.gif

Thank goodness you're still with us Stuart.

What are your thoughts on the Stars of '79 thingy, and in particular do you now accept that Jim Gallagher has been completely exonerated of any wrongdoing?
mortonjag 2010-01-28 23:27:29
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 28 2010, 11:23 PM) [snapback]704187[/snapback]
laugh.gif

Every now and then you come up with a classic Mentaljag. That was one of them, thanks.

Why thank you kind Sir - a gentleman, and there are few of us around.


Blessed are they who are persecuted for the sake of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."

Gospel of St. Matthew 5:3-10
mortonjag 2010-01-28 23:32:20
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 28 2010, 11:29 PM) [snapback]704191[/snapback]
And it is good night from me laugh.gif Good night

The Monkey bids you a sound sleep.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 23:35:25
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 28 2010, 11:33 PM) [snapback]704195[/snapback]
Well what can I say, other than Jesus H Christ. biggrin.gif

Hippopotamus?
mortonjag 2010-01-28 23:38:39
QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Jan 28 2010, 11:35 PM) [snapback]704197[/snapback]
I'm sure I read in another thread that you said in would be in the Tilly

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I'm sure it will.

No chance of a sneak preview - just for Jaggy? blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-28 23:41:04 When are we getting our new Mod?
mortonjag 2010-01-28 23:44:22
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 28 2010, 11:40 PM) [snapback]704199[/snapback]
I couldn't put it better myself. A very sad day indeed.

He DID die of natural causes in his nineties. I regard that as a good reason not to be too upset, and hope I'm as lucky.

My thoughts are with the family if there are any left.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 23:47:26
QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Jan 28 2010, 11:42 PM) [snapback]704201[/snapback]
I have already said before that once/if we have an agreement with the club we will organise a meeting where all interested parties can attend and hear what our plans are.

I hope Raemanov's not spoiling the party.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 23:52:48
QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Jan 28 2010, 11:49 PM) [snapback]704207[/snapback]
I think its been said now on many an occasion the Supporters Trust will not be running the youth academy.

The answers to the above can only really be given if and when the club agree to the Academy proposal.

Mr Rae would NEVER look a gift horse in the mouth! He's probably just stringing you along because he's like that.

Once he rubber stamps it I take it we have immediate lift off.
mortonjag 2010-01-28 23:54:24 Only thirty eight now. Probably all popping off to bed relieved to know that Stuart's still with us.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 00:03:10
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 29 2010, 12:00 AM) [snapback]704212[/snapback]
As i haven't heard anything i'll presume i've missed out on the position. An email or letter informing me would have been very much appreciated, i'd have settled for a post-it note.

Maybe it's sub judice.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 00:05:38 Weegie is 40!

General nonsense for this pish!
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mortonjag 2010-01-29 00:08:57
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 28 2010, 11:51 PM) [snapback]704208[/snapback]
Is that right you greeting-faced dozy old git? laugh.gif

Aye - I often sleep with the greyhound in the afternoon - usually in the big bed (which is really Mairi's) and occasionally in the Cave bed which belongs to the Monkey and his friends. There is no need for a bed in the cellar.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 00:10:09
QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Jan 29 2010, 12:09 AM) [snapback]704218[/snapback]
If only it was that simple

You could always shoot the old fud! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-29 00:11:21
QUOTE(davidh1874 @ Jan 29 2010, 12:09 AM) [snapback]704217[/snapback]
I thought it was a terrible read.
RIP right enough

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mortonjag 2010-01-29 00:14:08
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 29 2010, 12:12 AM) [snapback]704222[/snapback]
Totally uncalled for ! mad.gif

Did you have a different method in mind Spurtle? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-29 00:20:42
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 29 2010, 12:16 AM) [snapback]704225[/snapback]
Sorry Doc i don't think there is any need for that kind of comment.

I merely stated a fact Spurtle. wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-29 00:36:22
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 29 2010, 12:33 AM) [snapback]704229[/snapback]
You better not have been reading Catcher in the Rye again MJ laugh.gif

Up for a piss?
mortonjag 2010-01-29 00:37:18
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jan 29 2010, 12:25 AM) [snapback]704228[/snapback]
I take it you hadn't quite met your daily post quota dry.gif

Good.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 00:40:09
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Jan 29 2010, 12:37 AM) [snapback]704234[/snapback]
What the shit is this? Srsly. sad.gif You are the most ridiculous person on the interwebs. EVER.

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mortonjag 2010-01-29 00:54:48
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 29 2010, 12:42 AM) [snapback]704237[/snapback]
No thanks ? laugh.gif

Seriously I was back on because I was listening to a bit of Bob Dylan there and came back on to see the name of the guy talking about Dylan earlier. It was that grand fellow David Edward. I didnae think he was fifty nine. Cool.
I am gonna keep mine held in till the morning. laugh.gif
Byeeee

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mortonjag 2010-01-29 01:04:11
QUOTE(Andy M @ Jan 29 2010, 12:42 AM) [snapback]704238[/snapback]
Ah right - another thing that "Can't be done" from the Trust.

The trouble with folk in power is that they get so used to not having to be answerable that they eventually get blase about it.

Stuart - WHY are you not prepared to say any more. It's common knowledge that the Academy's not exactly about to fling open its doors. I'm certain you are doing your very best. There is nothing to be ashamed of. If you would just open up you would do yourself a HUGE favour - and the same applies about this Stars of '79 fiasco.

The Trust has been dealt a potentially fatal blow in no small measure because it has not had to be answerable to anybody. Whatever possessed the heid bummers to hand over the running of the bash to folk with no experience in the accounting side?

It's extremely sad to see intelligent guys so wrapped up in their own wee ideological cocoons that they have totally lost the place.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 01:25:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 29 2010, 01:08 AM) [snapback]704252[/snapback]
Another 30 years of MJ.

The mind boggles.

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It does put Salinger's death into some perspective! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-29 01:28:55
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 29 2010, 01:08 AM) [snapback]704251[/snapback]
Did you hear about the new Haitian boy band? They're called ' New blocks on the kids '

Yip - there will be lots out there searching for their flatmates.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 01:35:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 29 2010, 01:28 AM) [snapback]704255[/snapback]
OK, the acdemy is going to be a charity.

And the Trust is a society.

Is it tax exempt ?

Does it need to pay income tax or VAT ?

Perhaps all the cash was in the tradition of Arthur Daley.

HMM

Vat 69


The Holy Father's extension number!
mortonjag 2010-01-29 10:41:13
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Jan 29 2010, 10:12 AM) [snapback]704289[/snapback]
TID - I would assume MJ meant myself - Danny Goodwin.

I must have been confusing you with Auld Nick! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-29 10:48:36
QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Jan 29 2010, 09:43 AM) [snapback]704286[/snapback]
I'll say it again, we are in negotiations with the club to take over their youth football setup. Once those negotiations have concluded we will be prepared to tell everyone the result of those talks....full stop.
You welcome to you opinion on the Stars of '79 event. You welcome to your opinion on the Trust. I don't happen to agree with your opinion.

Well Stuart, I've ALWAYS said that the Trust is an excellent idea, but that's where it seems to stop. It has not been accountable to its own members and folk are clearly drifting away. If you continue to disagree with that opinion I don't see much progress being made.

What do you think of the notion of an 'umbrella' organisation incorporating the Trust, the new academy, and all the supporters clubs. A kind of fans Mecca if you will. Get them to join that FIRSTLY and then ask for investment in the trust. Together we stand -divided we fall, and Mr Rae must currently be rubbing his wrinkly old paws together in delight at another 'the fans knock f*ck out of each other fiasco'.

QUOTE(Andy M @ Jan 29 2010, 10:39 AM) [snapback]704302[/snapback]
Not exactly out on the piss. But a couple of shandies did pass my lips at the sports quiz. So in light of your statement that this is not about the trust, then who or what is the voice of this youth academy? How long have these negotiations been going on?
Could ask a lot more on this, but am not sure who to ask.

Well it's obvious to me that Douglas Rae won't be standing in the way of it since he has everything to gain and nothing to lose! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-29 10:56:27
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 29 2010, 10:47 AM) [snapback]704309[/snapback]
I'm sure you will be delighted with my exclusive news that Nicola will be getting married in July. rolleyes.gif

All the best to the happy couple !

What's the other girls name?
mortonjag 2010-01-29 10:58:27
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 29 2010, 10:53 AM) [snapback]704313[/snapback]
I know he did Danny - just pulling the old lad's chain !

If any of "the Trusssshhhhhht heid bummers" (copyright MJ) had made such a mistake he'd have been on it like a dug eating beetroot.

And I'm also in a mood to annoy people cos the board would put tits on a hielan' bull these past few weeks - and I saw a chance of a cheap shot at Ernie and took it.

He'll thank me for it one day.

TonInDublin

You should be so lucky sunshine -away an' have a chug at your own! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-29 11:17:45
QUOTE(dazed @ Jan 29 2010, 10:42 AM) [snapback]704306[/snapback]
Heard about this when it happened , the mind boggles! think they would stick to a wee game of snap or something at their age. smile.gif

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She obviously didn't have a self raising flower.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 11:23:34
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 29 2010, 11:19 AM) [snapback]704327[/snapback]
What?! How was he 'fooled' into anything? Jim was under long-term contract; any approach for him had to go through the club. Morton were under no obligation to tell him of any interest. If Jim didn't have contacts in the football world who could tell him of SPL interest (at the time he didn't have an agent) that's his fault. Nobody fooled anyone - Jim thought he could go it alone in the footballing world and failed miserably. That's the long and short of it.

Why Morton fans think DDF should have shown up with a tear in his eye and a suitcase packed for Jim is absolutely beyond me. If we were talking about Real Madrid or something that would be a different matter but Motherwell are not a club that much bigger than ourselves, yet there's this idea that we owed a player under a lengthy contract the right to be made aware of their interest despite his being contractually not entitled to it.

I would honestly prefer that all the quislings on here who think that Morton should have handed over their golden egg (of the time) to Motherwell without a fight just **** off and stop coming to Cappielow when Jim leaves. Go and watch him at McDiarmid.

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Be that as it may, it looks to me as though money was on the table. I think Rae made the wrong decision both for 'The Club' and for the player.

How much money has he made from the selling on of players since he became God?
mortonjag 2010-01-29 11:25:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 29 2010, 11:24 AM) [snapback]704329[/snapback]
A bucket of money ?

One things for sure, if there's a trend, Shoogly will bucket!
mortonjag 2010-01-29 11:52:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 29 2010, 11:41 AM) [snapback]704338[/snapback]
Has anyone seen Jim in the last couple of days ?

Is he fighting fit ?

I imagine the whole thing has been extremely taxing!
mortonjag 2010-01-29 11:59:34
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 29 2010, 11:28 AM) [snapback]704331[/snapback]
I agree that it is now evident that it was the wrong decision for the club. However, at the time, I think it's one that almost everyone would have made.

As for the player... who the **** cares? If Jim's that bothered why did he never put in a transfer request? He's a moaning-faced prima donna who thinks the world owes him a living.

Be that as it may, it was not always so - far from it.

I've been reluctant to accept it, but have reached the conclusion that player power at Cappielow has undermined successive Managers. IMHO that has been down to one man and his inveterate messing. It's common knowledge that Shoogly's wee boys have always been able to have a good clype to 'Daddy'.

Maybe Jimbo thought 'Daddy' was too decent not to inform him of outside interest and naively saw no need for an agent.

When things go wrong at Cappielow the blame correctly goes back to the man in total control.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 12:05:55 Contractions of workforce
mortonjag 2010-01-29 12:23:12
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 29 2010, 12:21 PM) [snapback]704357[/snapback]
Good afternoon Smithston. I have had a lovely wee nap and I am now up and about. Thanks for the concern. laugh.gif

Good! (God) blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-29 12:51:35 Just had a 'phone call from my Aunt Jenny. She's in her late seventies, and recently had her house extended (not a huge extension) by a 'friendly' local builder. He did an excellent job, and seems to be a decent bloke, but here's the problem. She's worried sick because she paid the man in cash (she's never been short of a bob or two) and he didn't give her a receipt. Now she's had some kind of communication from the Customs and Excise wanting all sorts of details.

I've reassured her that she acted in good faith, but secretly am a bit worried as the 'nice' man presumably gave her an attractive price (and it was) because he didn't charge VAT.

Obviously the Revenue are targeting the builder, but where does that leave my aunt?
mortonjag 2010-01-29 12:54:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 29 2010, 12:44 PM) [snapback]704368[/snapback]
As usual MJ, you do get some things spot on.

It is in Saturday's Tele.

My God - you get the papers a lot earlier than us - I thought you were only about nine hours ahead!
mortonjag 2010-01-29 13:27:12
QUOTE(capello @ Jan 29 2010, 01:14 PM) [snapback]704391[/snapback]
Dont really see what your aunt has to worry about as she is not responsible for what the builder declares
to the vat man?.
If the vat are asking questions then surely they have a vat receipt from the builder and are maybe checking what she paid versus the amount declared and are just doing a random check,it happens.
If it is all above board then he should be able to provide a receipt to your aunt from the the original invoice?

Unless the builder is daft enough to tell them he done a job for your auntie but never declared it,very unlikely but in which case she tells them what she paid and lets them sort things out.

If all else fails she could play the "Aye I got a receipt but dont know what I did with it card" you better see the builder !

The builder may get lester piggots cell and your auntie enjoys her extension!! laugh.gif

Simples!

Cheers for that capello and no thanks to the others! ph34r.gif

It is, however, a wee bit more complicated. Aunt Jenny lives in Cowal - a place where everybody knows everybody else, and apparently this builder has done several jobs in the last year or two. From what she's heard, he offers to give a 'cash price' and apparently makes it clear it's to 'save them some money'. That's what happened in her case too.

It's worrying her sick, and me just a little. I can only assume that the Customs and Excise have been looking into his records and contacting folk he's done work for. It's pretty clear to me that 'Bob' has been evading VAT but Jenny willingly took him on to save money, even if she didn't fully understand how it worked. She's a very honest lady who wouldn't cheat a living soul.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 13:30:11
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jan 29 2010, 01:27 PM) [snapback]704397[/snapback]
Ernie, not everyone connected to the building trade is actually VAT registered. There is a Vat threshold and unless you turnover that amount, you would not be expected to charge, or pay VAT.

Cheers Franco. I've just done some checking and he's definitely got a VAT number.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 13:36:52
QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Jan 29 2010, 01:01 PM) [snapback]704383[/snapback]
The organisation you refer to is AMTASC.

I didn't know that such a beast existed Stuart. Is that a possible way ahead. We clearly need unity of our terribly fragmented fanbase.

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 29 2010, 01:04 PM) [snapback]704387[/snapback]
Wow...those are all really good points.

You know what you should do, you should take Bryan or the other top trust members up on their offer of you joining them and helping this become reality.

Come on Ernie, you are a smart man. If it is good for Morton to have the Trust and you see possible ways of it being successful, go for it! I am sure you will be a success!

Smart enough not to have to listen to advice from every Tom Dick and Harry on a pubic massage board. You are correct of course. That is the very reason I posed the question in the first place.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 13:39:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 29 2010, 01:06 PM) [snapback]704389[/snapback]
To please Puggsy - wrong again MJ.

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Sydney is 11 hours ahead.

So, it's Saturday here already.

[b]And MJ, you will have noticed that the Telegraph has done its own research.[/b]

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Is the article available to see now?
mortonjag 2010-01-29 13:43:33
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 29 2010, 01:27 PM) [snapback]704398[/snapback]
I would suggest that this group, with a few additions I am maybe unaware of, would do an outstanding job ....

Barbarossa, midTONs, Andy M, Mortonjag, and Bryan.

Couple them with any like minded ones still there and you'd be quids in.

TonInDublin

I have been seriously thinking about all this since the Stars of 79 thing blew up. I don't like committees etc. I'd worry about being sucked into cliques and petty power struggles and jealousies.

I would, however, be willing to be involved in something completely new - obviously incorporating the best of the old and binning the rest.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 13:47:48
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 29 2010, 01:00 PM) [snapback]704382[/snapback]
Actually there are several SNP policies with which I disagree. Support for faith schools for one, and I'm fairly open minded on nuclear power as a short term measure.

I don't really know the ins and outs of this particular issue and frankly I don't really care that much; my point was that from reading the article it appeared that the government hadn't actually made up their minds yet and so it seemed a bit of a knee jerk reaction to criticise them - fair enough if they eventually come to a decision that you think is wrong, but criticising them when they haven't made that decision seems a bit like a very Labour thing to do.

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It's about folk with psychological illness! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-29 13:49:07
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 29 2010, 01:22 PM) [snapback]704393[/snapback]
I'm amazed Duncan McNeil can present himself properly dressed each day, never mind a set of figures on anything!
Also...the MSP for Greenock and Inverclyde talking about a lack of jobs for midwifes!

Put them in the bloody IRH!!!!!

I think that's the sort of thing he'd like.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 13:51:44
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 29 2010, 01:46 PM) [snapback]704417[/snapback]
Fixed smile.gif

I'm looking for genuine answers from folk with some experience of life.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 13:53:33
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 29 2010, 01:46 PM) [snapback]704418[/snapback]
Well why not? If you feel you would be a good influence - and amazingly I think you would be too! - then you should!

Well, I've stated my feelings about it on another thread.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 13:55:15
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 29 2010, 01:52 PM) [snapback]704424[/snapback]
I'll be Mortonjag's 'voice of reason' smile.gif

Correct.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 13:56:36
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 29 2010, 01:52 PM) [snapback]704425[/snapback]
This one little post neatly encapsulates your entire method of working on here.

The facts are that Grady has been given permission to approach Johansen to play for the 'Ton. A pretty bold move; even in his mid-30s I'd welcome the chance to see an experienced internationalist play for us and, going by the interest in this thread, quite a lot of supporters feel the same way. With the player living locally I'm sure Grady has been very persuasive about the convenience factor and the player has obviously been giving it consideration otherwise he'd have given a straightforward "No" early on.

However, the guy is still good enough to have attracted at least one offer from elsewhere, in what's presumably a better league than the Scottish First and, I'd assume, offering more money too. If that's the case, I certainly don't blame him for taking it up instead of coming to Scapa, and I'd reckon very few of us would.

YOU, however, have decided to blame it on Douglas Rae. laugh.gif

Any reasons, apart from trying to further your own narrow-minded agenda against Rae (which, incidentally, doesn't seem to have progressed at all during my time on this messageboard laugh.gif )?

Any proof that Rae cost us this potential signing?

Even a SMIDGEON of corroboration?

NO??

Thought not!!

Piss and wind, as usual.......


Why do you bother?
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mortonjag 2010-01-29 13:58:07
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 29 2010, 01:54 PM) [snapback]704427[/snapback]
But seriously, what is up with the town? I was in the Commercial one day (not through choice!) when the Bigot Brothers were playing.

It was me and 1 other person.

The pub was full, but I only counted 1 other face!

What's that got to do with VAT evasion?
mortonjag 2010-01-29 14:12:31
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Jan 29 2010, 08:21 AM) [snapback]704273[/snapback]
GMST

"For announcements and discussion pertaining to the Greenock Morton Supporters Trust."

I just spotted that!

Is it not a general question about whether or not 'Societies' are VAT exempt. Haven't a clue what Newt is banging on about but there's usually method in his madness!
mortonjag 2010-01-29 14:16:46
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 29 2010, 02:06 PM) [snapback]704436[/snapback]
Surely it's the responsibility of the person receving payment for services to declare the VAT, and not the customer?

I'd say your Auntie has hee-haw to worry about and the VAT folk are just wanting to get evidence from her.

Many thanks CHC - I genuinely appreciate that advice, and it ties in with my own thinking - that plus the fact that she's clearly an innocent old lady who is unlikely to understand our taxation system.

Obviously if she'd OFFERED to pay cash DELIBERATELY TO EVADE VAT that would have been entirely different.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 14:31:15
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jan 29 2010, 02:28 PM) [snapback]704441[/snapback]

So Rae's got his man - EXCELLENT.

Will he be in tomorrow's starting line up?
mortonjag 2010-01-29 14:37:30
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 29 2010, 02:33 PM) [snapback]704444[/snapback]
That's yer answer in a nutshell.

She paid the builder for the work done; whether by cash or cheque or credit card is irrelevant. It's up to the builder to ensure the correct tax declarations and payments are made; the customer has no liability there whatsoever.

I'm sure that's right. I'm just worried that the Excise people might suggest she was complicit in the fraud.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 14:41:45
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 29 2010, 02:03 PM) [snapback]704435[/snapback]
Peter

So sweet Spurtle.

Which one's going the 'man'?
mortonjag 2010-01-29 14:45:19
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 29 2010, 02:34 PM) [snapback]704445[/snapback]
That is yesterdays news.



QUOTE(rimton @ Jan 29 2010, 02:38 PM) [snapback]704447[/snapback]
Search for new striker goes on

Johansson turns down move to Morton
http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/sport/m...triker-goes-on/

FINNISH international striker Jonatan Johansson will not be coming to Cappielow.

Morton had made an offer for the ex-Ranger, but the 34-year-old has chosen to go abroad for what he sees as his last contract as a player.

Ton boss James Grady said: "He's not coming. He has had better offers abroad.

"It's disappointing. He had a really good offer from us but he wants to go abroad. He sees it as his last contract and we can understand that."

The Morton manager confirmed that he still has other irons in the fire and said: "There are two or three things on the go. We are working hard to get things done, but we'll just need to wait and see."

FOR FULL STORY, SEE TODAY'S TELE

Real Hoops got me quite excited too.

The old fud's blown it again. The cash must be drying up faster than confetti in a fire.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 14:48:47
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Jan 29 2010, 02:46 PM) [snapback]704454[/snapback]
I'm sick of hearing about the irons in the ****ing fire.

YIP- Tiddler appeared out of the blue, but every time the 'Club' boasts of its wonderful new signings it turns to dust.

Can't wait to read Rae's latest crap in tomorrow's 'Shoogly Peg' notes.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 14:51:33
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 29 2010, 02:44 PM) [snapback]704452[/snapback]
The Sun have taken down this story.

Best fling since sliced bread?
mortonjag 2010-01-29 14:53:56
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Jan 29 2010, 02:51 PM) [snapback]704456[/snapback]
How has Rae blown it you ramrod?? The guy has prob went to a club offering substantially more than us in wages and the story hardly suggests that he was dying to come here, but knocked us back because Rae offered him peanuts does it??

Nothing like stating the obvious!

PRECISELY - IF THE OLD BOD'S STONEY BROKE WHY DOES HE KEEP KIDDING US ON HE AIN'T? ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-29 14:59:08
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jan 29 2010, 02:53 PM) [snapback]704460[/snapback]
I presumed you would be aware that he hadn't signed and that he had chosen to play his football abroad.

What I was doing by posting Grady's quote was pointing out to you that money was not the issue and that the Chairman was, as far as anyone can see, not to blame for JJ's decision.

But don't let the fact that the truth is staring you in the face stop you from blaming Douglas Rae. dry.gif

So it's Grady that pays the players! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-29 15:00:30
QUOTE(ccc @ Jan 29 2010, 02:58 PM) [snapback]704465[/snapback]
I think that losing out on him isn't terrible news so long as we bring in another striker. If Grady and McManus cannot find a suitable striker between their contacts then I will be surprised. I think Johansson would only have been a short term signing anyway as he can't have too much left in the tank at 34, so perhaps we have dodged a bullet.

As for Rae, he really cannot win with the support. If we had offered him loads of money he would have been criticised by some for wasting resources on a 34-year old. Now that we have missed out he is being criticised for not offering him more.

"You can't please all of the people all of the time"
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If he was banging in goals? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-29 15:02:19
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 29 2010, 02:58 PM) [snapback]704466[/snapback]
The "man" blink.gif

Ah- so it'll be Mr Nickerless Surgeon and Mrs Peter Periwinkle.

Will she be shaving for the wedding ceremony, Spurtle?
mortonjag 2010-01-29 15:05:05
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 29 2010, 03:02 PM) [snapback]704473[/snapback]
blink.gif
he must be in his late 70s, he's a bit old to be expected to be banging in the goals, shirley?

Ask him yourself - so far as I can see some folk think he can walk across the Clyde so maybe Craig Levein should be getting on the blower to Feart Matilda.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 16:54:04
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 29 2010, 03:56 PM) [snapback]704524[/snapback]
I'm a bit fed up with this thread now. Don't you think it has been done to death? unsure.gif

Not in the very slightest Your Majesty

QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 29 2010, 03:59 PM) [snapback]704529[/snapback]
Absolutely.

It's had more attention than anything remotely fitba' related, and it's just going round in daft wee circles now - it should be put out of our misery.

Pompous and parsimonious - aye - just like Jaggy. Guess that makes you one sad git!

QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 29 2010, 04:02 PM) [snapback]704533[/snapback]
It should. It's the same old patter being spouted in every which way......STOP IT NOW.... especially Greenock Guvnor, Jaggy and Newton. blush.gif

How very unlike your Royal Highness to attempt to muffle debate. Shouldn't you be in the parlour eating bread and honey? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-29 17:02:31
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jan 29 2010, 03:11 PM) [snapback]704476[/snapback]
You really can be a bit obtuse sometimes.
It suits your purpose to just assume that Rae’s offer was not good enough for JJ and then also assume that Rae must there for be “stoney brokeâ€.

Has it not crossed your mind that JJ simply wanted to play abroad (for the obvious reasons) or even that JJ wanted more than Grady thought he was worth. I can just imagine the personal abuse and name calling you’d submit Rae to if he had paid over the odds and JJ turned out to be slow and uninterested.

You don’t like Douglas Rae- we get it. Now move on, support the team, get behind the manager and get over your small minded personal vendetta as it is so boring now.

How's this for obtuseness.

Some guy on a massage board asked another if he had 'stopped beating his wife'?

The other guy went into a huge hissy fit, claiming he didn't understand the meaning of a 'loaded question' and clyped to wee Bryan.

Result: the first guy was warned and his warning level increased to 50%. Second guy PROMISED wee Bryan he'd put first guy 'on ignore'.

First guy's name -Mortonjag.

Ring any bells darling.

Have you stopped kicking the dug? mad.gif

The posters will make of that what they choose.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 17:41:46
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jan 29 2010, 05:08 PM) [snapback]704575[/snapback]
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Seriously, are you 12 ?

Even more seriously - did it ring any bells darling.

Did you tell Bryan you'd put Mortonjag on ignore?

Seems that either Bryan's a liar or you are.

Gonnae clype again?

And you have the brazen cheek to ask if Mortonjag's 12? dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-29 17:48:47
QUOTE(Bawhirley Road @ Jan 29 2010, 03:40 PM) [snapback]704498[/snapback]
He gave me a price

I paid him

He did a good job

No, I didn't ask for a receipt

Should I have?

He's a good guy

There won't be a problem with him.
That's all she has to say.

Cheers - I'm 'phoning her again tonight, and I'll repeat what I already said.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 17:50:36
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 29 2010, 03:59 PM) [snapback]704528[/snapback]
Only her husband will see if she has back in the honeymoon suite. rolleyes.gif

She's into burquas now - the SNP will stop at nothing in an attempt to grab votes.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 17:53:30
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 29 2010, 04:04 PM) [snapback]704539[/snapback]
What I thought was most impressive was how the only thing he was complaining about was having to buy a new pair of breeks cos she ripped the zipper.

She's a nubile young thing compared to him, so he should have been up her like a rat up a drainpipe.

Although at that age it's probably like trying to push rope through a door.

TonInDublin

Rampant ageism.

QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 29 2010, 04:05 PM) [snapback]704542[/snapback]
Having now read the story, it made the front page of the Sun, they are a pair of dirty old buggers!!! The bloody bakery isle for god sake. ohmy.gif

Indeed - had it been the butchery aisle she could have got herself started with a big black puddin'.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 17:55:16
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 29 2010, 05:46 PM) [snapback]704598[/snapback]
I tend to go to bed around 8.5 hours before I need to get up, and I'm asleep within 10 mins of my head hitting the pillow.

So all that stuff about conscience is just a myth! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-29 18:08:24
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 29 2010, 05:59 PM) [snapback]704605[/snapback]
Yeah I've got plenty to feel guilty about, I go about on the internet betraying peoples' confidence and otherwise acting the big man... oh wait rolleyes.gif

Aye - wait indeed chubby boy! ph34r.gif

Do you think Jaggy's a bit sensitive about that smear campaign of yours, or do you think he protesteth too much? wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-29 18:10:36
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jan 29 2010, 05:56 PM) [snapback]704604[/snapback]
laugh.gif I love your colouring in.
mellow.gif well done.

I'll check with Bryan.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 18:17:41
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jan 29 2010, 06:08 PM) [snapback]704608[/snapback]
If you're feeling frisky
Got nothing else to do
Get yourself to Tesco
A lady waits for you

A nice old piece of crumpet
Shopping is her hobby
She'll stick her hand right doon yer breeks
And softly stroke yer boaby.

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Ah wandert doon tae Tescos tae buy some tattie scones
An there ah wis accostit by some tart wi freezin hauns
An help ma boab she grabbed ma knob an fiddl't wi' the tip
Ah never really mindid till ah fun she'd bust ma zip.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 18:24:12
QUOTE(monyou @ Jan 29 2010, 06:21 PM) [snapback]704614[/snapback]
laugh.gif Knew it!!!

I've claimed it on the contents insurance.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 18:26:32
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 29 2010, 06:15 PM) [snapback]704612[/snapback]
I've weathered veiled threats from people who can actually do something that matters, so if you think I'm bothered...
... yeah, evidently you think I'm bothered rolleyes.gif

"Smear campaign" indeed, keep it coming.

I'm not that bothered really.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 18:27:28
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jan 29 2010, 06:21 PM) [snapback]704615[/snapback]
laugh.gif OK
you have fun now.

Thanks.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 18:29:04
QUOTE(monton @ J :ph34r:an 29 2010, 06:26 PM) [snapback]704619[/snapback]
DONT MAKE ME EFN LAUGH laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Couldn't motiv ate a paper bag in the wind.

Do agree though that every player has a shelf life at a club, and Jimbo's passed his sell by date unfortunately for him to move on up a level.

Big improvement on Sheep Lips though!
mortonjag 2010-01-29 18:40:10
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 29 2010, 06:33 PM) [snapback]704622[/snapback]
you know what, I really can't be arsed having a battle of wits with an unarmed man any more.

Congratulations - I think you are only the second poster I've ever put on "ignore".

AAAHH, the weekend seems brighter already!!! BYEEE!! laugh.gif

Well done to the Guv.

A palpable HIT! bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-29 18:43:57
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Jan 29 2010, 06:41 PM) [snapback]704625[/snapback]
Lies.

Morton don't sign good looking players.

Are you a wummin or a POUFFE?
mortonjag 2010-01-29 18:56:00
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Jan 29 2010, 06:49 PM) [snapback]704629[/snapback]
I have the right to remain silent.

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mortonjag 2010-01-29 18:57:04
QUOTE(monton @ Jan 29 2010, 06:50 PM) [snapback]704630[/snapback]
Not moved on at all, STILL playing Jimbo on left.
The guy just aint got a clue.
Monti, Tidser and at one point Jimbo play/played different football than the Shiote he is used to.

Jimbo was good on the left last Saturday.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 18:59:02 Hope Murray gets his wee Mummy's boy arse felt! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-29 19:15:05
QUOTE(BayTON @ Jan 29 2010, 07:03 PM) [snapback]704636[/snapback]
We all see you on here everyday Reading the stories about the stars of 79night.

You claimed the other day you would post later that night as you where at work, though posting from work has never stopped you before, but that was just around the same time you abused others by leaking false info to them, but as the day progress you saw that people where not buying your lies posted through othes, and you never did post the post you claimed you would.

I know that you have not had any legal advise, so that is not the reason for not posting.

You have leaked rumours hinting that your have been given absolution from the pope, by doing so your pointing the finger at everyone else involve with the night, true Morton people who put in hours of hard work, all who now are ashamed to have been involved in the night.

I say to you, either come on here and give us the truth if you never stole the money, or admit it and let all others involved in the night finally end this nightmare you caused.

I also ask Stuart Duncan to post on here or the trust site a statement giving a full account if this, who went to the police who was under investigation. Also what feed back you got from the police as we only have Willowmans account that he was totally proved innocent, though I have heard the stories all have that it was not enough evidence.
For those who think this yet another boring thread, well ask yourself, if you where involved with this night would you want the truth out.

Why should any other than the self satisfied self appointed board polis think it's a boring thread? Folk are obviously fed up with the lack of progress but I gather the Tilly will publish an (hopefully) unbiased story tomorrow.

Mortonjag has been following this tragic story very carefully, and so far as Mortonjag can see there are certain posters who are determined to 'bury' Willy Man.

Is this desperation, overkill, or just honest frustration because they know the truth?

Until you reveal your identity and furnish the evidence you claim to have I guess you won't get much credibility.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 19:26:08
QUOTE(Mick @ Jan 29 2010, 07:19 PM) [snapback]704641[/snapback]
It wouldn't have been any different. Even if your Aunt had offered to pay cash it would still be up to the builder to invoice/declare accordingly.
This really isn't anything your Aunt should be concerned about.

Cheers.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 20:11:38
QUOTE(BayTON @ Jan 29 2010, 07:36 PM) [snapback]704650[/snapback]
Jag, you are aware that everyone knows Willowman sent you a PM just after he left the police station. Am not meaning anything by that other than poeple find out things things that are true.

I think you like me just want the truth to come out 100% warts and all.

I do point the finger at Willowman, but that is because I have seen his 3 versions of his accounts, and his claim to pay back £1500 if the trust didn't go to the police. And yes there is evidence of this, ask willowman to deny it. I have seen this email.

Am sure if pushed someone will post a copy of that email.
I can assure you this is out of frustration that anything else you have said



QUOTE(BayTON @ Jan 29 2010, 07:47 PM) [snapback]704653[/snapback]
And your name is?

Am asking someone who was incharge of all the cash, at a do that if any profits where made went to a Morton youth academy, something we all want.

Either he comes on and tells us the truth or I'll publish his 3 accounts sent in for all to see.

I have no agenda here other than the truth and the money that went a miss returned

Well considering that I posted myself that Willy Man had p.m.'d me it wasn't a big secret.

You see Mortonjag has kept a very close eye on this matter. Mortonjag has had chats with genuine people on both sides of 'the divide', and what is very clear, and something which I don't think Willy Man will deny is that the bookkeeping left a lot to be desired. Three sets of accounts - draft - taken to final balance - and for auditing. I'm not saying that that's what they were but 'three sets of accounts' do not show a man with his sticky fingers jammed in the till!!!

I said to you before that I only want the truth to come out and I invited you to publish your identity and your documents. I'm afraid that you DO sound a bit desperate to bury Willy Man and I have to ask myself why that may be.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 20:22:12
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 29 2010, 08:05 PM) [snapback]704668[/snapback]
MJ- Why not put these allegations to Willowman and tell us if he denies this ? Or indeed ask him to reply himself.

BayTon - I'm sure most posters are getting weary by now with all these threads and the drip drip of information.
Why not just publish the accounts and be damned ? If the information you publish is offending anyone associated with the night then they can deny it as false information.

I have had no contact with Willy man for days. He approached me - I think because he knows that I am totally detached from Inverclyde and have no personal friends at the Club or in the Trust. He explained that he had had this thing hanging over him for weeks on end, and he was clearly physically and mentally drained. All he asked me to do was to start a thread saying that Stuart Duncan and Danny Goodwin had named him to the police as 'the suspect' and that he had been cleared, and I did that.

Willy Man is not a personal friend, though I understand he is a popular and well respected guy down Inverclyde way.

If it transpires that he has been guilty of something despite the police thinking not, so be it.

I GENUINELY want the truth to out. I've no agenda.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 20:42:31
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 29 2010, 08:30 PM) [snapback]704679[/snapback]
I appreciate you want the truth MJ, we all do. I'm certainly not gunning for Willowman or anyone else. All I want, is the truth too.
What is slightly annoying me is the silence from those involved. We all know, as far as the funds are concerned, there is a bit of an annomaly. To just ignore the fans of this club is not on.

I gather the Tilly is running an article tomorrow and I fully expect both sides of the story to be presented.

QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 29 2010, 08:32 PM) [snapback]704680[/snapback]
I thought this part of the forum was for proper footballing matters? unsure.gif The same old s*** is being spouted again and again.

Not like you to say the same thing three times Your Majesty. Is the King in his counting house tonight? smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-29 20:45:01
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 29 2010, 08:42 PM) [snapback]704693[/snapback]
If you had proper flu, you would not be typing like a demon on here. I think Dr Jag will confirm that.

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The flu, like many things, is subject to much exaggeration and misrepresentation Your Majesty. smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-29 20:45:44
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 29 2010, 08:44 PM) [snapback]704694[/snapback]
No, he is at his philosophical society meeting, and he had a Burns supper last night. What a social life, eh? unsure.gif

I'm free! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-29 20:50:00
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Jan 29 2010, 08:01 PM) [snapback]704662[/snapback]
my doberman asked will you wear a condom as he doesnae ken where you have been wub.gif

That would be against Mortonjag's beliefs! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 29 2010, 08:29 PM) [snapback]704677[/snapback]
a couple of mini-donuts as spacers would be an idea as well - he ain't called "jag" for nothing, eh, needledick?

tongue.gif

If I'd known yer erse was wider than the Clyde tunnel you'd have been declined.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 20:51:41
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 29 2010, 08:36 PM) [snapback]704685[/snapback]
well we always suspected it, and now we know....... laugh.gif

Actually I've been disappointed in this thread - I read the title and thought it was two different questions! blush.gif

Good for youse.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 20:53:37
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 29 2010, 08:50 PM) [snapback]704701[/snapback]
I'm free! laugh.gif
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yap yap yap

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mortonjag 2010-01-29 20:56:33
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 29 2010, 08:54 PM) [snapback]704707[/snapback]
I think so. Shameless was good by the way, Mrs Doyle was in it.

Morton 2 Airdrie 1 (Weatherson/Pantaloons)
mortonjag 2010-01-29 20:59:45 As posted elsewhere:

Ton 2 Erdry 1 (Spoonsy and Pantaloons).
mortonjag 2010-01-29 21:09:01
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jan 29 2010, 09:02 PM) [snapback]704711[/snapback]
Jammed in the till mad.gif If we are all spilling the beans I heard he was emptying the ****ing till every hour.

And I challenge him to come on here and deny it. Instead of getting his deluded "pal" Mortonjag to help him spout more pish trying to defend the indefensible that is doing damage by pointing the finger at some really decent folk.

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mortonjag 2010-01-29 21:26:45
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 29 2010, 09:21 PM) [snapback]704720[/snapback]
he's male

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If you'd said 'she's it would have been funnier.

You have a p.m.!
mortonjag 2010-01-29 21:40:58
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 29 2010, 09:09 PM) [snapback]704715[/snapback]
http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php...&highlight=

Quote: "Looks like the Original Poster came here expecting confirmation of his point of view, then left with tail between legs when we asked some reasonable questions."
Away to London, no doubt.......
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I'm sincerely flattered by your obsession with Mortonjag. If you have any queries about thermostatic valves just ask here. Mortonjag is vastly experienced in SO many fields of human endeavour.

And don't worry - I won't be Googling Maccaboy - the porn sites are apparently full of worms.
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 29 2010, 09:23 PM) [snapback]704723[/snapback]
How did it end up Jaggy, were you held liable for the damage or were you successful in suing for criminal damage?

Well CHC, since you're kind enough to ask, my Small Claims action was successful. I was awarded over £2000 plus expenses and they now have a Court Judgement against them, and even better, I liased with their insurance company and their claim was rebutted on the grounds of 'malicious damage', and a prosecution is pending.

It's best not to meddle with the Jag.

If you need any DIY in one of your many mansions, Jaggy's yer man! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-29 21:45:52
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jan 29 2010, 09:27 PM) [snapback]704731[/snapback]
But at least he can spell. laugh.gif laugh.gif

Are you getting lessons buckshee, Smiffy? smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-29 21:54:06
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 29 2010, 09:48 PM) [snapback]704743[/snapback]
If this is how you treat your friends i'd hate to see how you treat your enemies!!!

They were never MY friends - the bitch was a 'friend' of my partner. The two of them perjured and lied their way through three Court hearings before a Sheriff finally saw through them. If I hadn't won I'd already decided to deal with the matter in an alternative manner which cannot be described here and has nothing to do with my cellar.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 22:01:02
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 29 2010, 09:55 PM) [snapback]704752[/snapback]
Please tell me it was rock, paper scissors.

It is not a laughing matter PT. It dragged on for nine months during which my partner's father died tragically at the age of 63. The 'bitch' had sent abusive texts to my partner, and of course the staged accident had preceded the event. When Les died she sent a sympathy card - just to hurt.

Anyway, it would have been MUCH more than rock paper and scissors. When you have access to money things can be made to happen! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-29 22:26:20
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jan 29 2010, 09:55 PM) [snapback]704750[/snapback]
MJ

If the revenue are coming back to 'talk' to her it might be worthwhile having an independent person to sit in the interview, thus covering your auntie's back and ensuring that evidence is not 'created' against this builder.

Like others here I do not think that your Aunty has anything to worry about - other than a potential court appearance as a witness aginst the builder perhaps...and this can be quite stressful for those with little or no experience of the criminal justice system.

We got our kitchen done about two years ago and the guy asked for a cash payment since a previous customer had bounced a cheque on him and left him out of pocket. Not a problem - but his face was a picture when I laughingly joked that I worked for the revenue and would require a VAT receipt...

DD

Cheers Dave, it's good when we can help each other out.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 22:38:37
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 29 2010, 10:32 PM) [snapback]704767[/snapback]
Erm, none of my business, just curious, how much older than your partner are you?

She is a bit younger than me Peter and much prettier. [attachment=6425:yes.gif]
mortonjag 2010-01-29 22:41:07
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 29 2010, 10:37 PM) [snapback]704770[/snapback]
umm, did you ask Willo......... oh, wait....... blush.gif

happy.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-29 22:43:48
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jan 29 2010, 10:40 PM) [snapback]704772[/snapback]
"the best DIYers are better than the average tradesman" , Ernie, I'm disapointed..........

..............I thought you were even better than us good tradesmen. laugh.gif

Nope Franco - even Mortonjag ain't that arrogant, but the advantage of DIY is that you can take as long as you like to get things just so, and Mortonjag always does! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-29 22:56:11
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jan 29 2010, 10:54 PM) [snapback]704777[/snapback]
It was meant as a wee joke, honestly, and yes you are correct, I always have deadlines to adhere to, whereas your DIYer is afforded the luxury of time.
That said, I have worked with some god awful tradesmen in my time, yet my Father (Engineer by trade) can turn his hand to almost anything.

He'll understand the Wankel principle then! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-29 23:20:47
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 29 2010, 11:17 PM) [snapback]704787[/snapback]
aye - but then so's yer DUG! laugh.gif

All the women in Mortonjag's residence are young and beautiful.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 23:22:54
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 29 2010, 11:19 PM) [snapback]704789[/snapback]
didn't you see the post elsewhere asking for assistance to take the covers OFF at 10.00 tomorrow morning? rolleyes.gif

Supercilious toad. Why don't you run along and play with yer brownie?
mortonjag 2010-01-29 23:35:37
QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Jan 29 2010, 11:25 PM) [snapback]704794[/snapback]
Once we have exhausted all avenues of getting everything owed to the Trust from the evening I will be only to glad to post what transpired after the event, including emails. And as a matter of record myself, Danny Goodwin and Sean Donnelly all went to the police and under the same circumstances I would do so again

Thanks for confirming that there will be no further police involvement Stuart.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 23:38:52
QUOTE(BMC @ Jan 29 2010, 11:26 PM) [snapback]704795[/snapback]
Hope ye declared it on your tax return laugh.gif

I have absolutely no intention of letting those scummy money grabbing creeps ogle at my lovely young ladies.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 23:50:05
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jan 29 2010, 11:33 PM) [snapback]704797[/snapback]
great - the nosy and the interested will get their facts and figures in the fullness of time.

Hopefully, now that that has been promised the thread can lie dormant untill the information is forthcoming - instead of boring the nipples off us with the endless speculation and pontificating that has been going on.

Mind you, I doubt it!!

dry.gif

You've been conspicuous by your absence - you sanctimonious squid. The Tilly's reporting the matter tomorrow as you very well know. It appears to me that all Stuart has done is to confirm that the Trust is still determined to stick the blame on Willy Man despite the police decision. Maybe that's a wise course of action. Time will tell.
mortonjag 2010-01-29 23:51:21
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jan 29 2010, 11:43 PM) [snapback]704805[/snapback]
I'll pass on your good wishes to him.

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-30 00:17:46
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jan 30 2010, 12:10 AM) [snapback]704810[/snapback]
Feckin unbelievable!!! a great guy like Colin (Weegie) only gets 11 replys when it's his Birthday, yet there are some complete and utter f*ckwits on this forum, who command pages simply because they spout p1sh and are then answered.
It's a crying shame how low this forum has become.

Weegie is a top bloke and a couple of years ago would have commanded at least 2 pages.

Rant over, for now. mad.gif

Could not agree more Franco and not just ANY OLD birthday either. I sent 'beaky' a wee p.m. He's an excellent chap.

Don't forget that 75% of the posters on this pubic massage board are under thirty and think they know it all. Given that 50% of them have an IQ of less than 90 what do you expect? smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-30 00:38:01
QUOTE(dmc @ Jan 30 2010, 12:33 AM) [snapback]704818[/snapback]
**** me you're repetitve!!! mellow.gif

Maybe somebody felt that somebody had ignored the previous advice! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-30 00:42:36
QUOTE(StillTON @ Jan 30 2010, 12:33 AM) [snapback]704819[/snapback]
But you are not an average fan you are a die hard fan I bet you love taking your son to see the ton each week,hope your boy enjoys watching the Airdrie game which should put us in a position to off saftey.

And hopefully Jimbo signs new deal. smile.gif

I can't speak for Central but my brother and I have a journey of some 25 miles to Cappielow, and like Central we also go to the away matches. I can assure you that until JG became manager, it was often VERY hard to motivate myself to go to Inverness let alone Dingwall in the full knowledge that the entertainment value would be zero, and that in all probability we'd have to make that long journey home with nothing achieved.
mortonjag 2010-01-30 06:54:12
QUOTE(Chris Davidson @ Jan 30 2010, 02:17 AM) [snapback]704856[/snapback]
Waaaaow - this whole thread is new to me, been absent from .org for a while... My good friend Michael Jackson (one of my other acquaintices was David Bowie, again, no relation!) pointed me towards it.

All very interesting / fascinating (me and my mates missed the event - sold out too quick!), but I have an admission to make about the wine screw:

Was in Dominican Republic last summer, for my oldest daughter Nicole's wedding (same island as Haita, by the way, Hispaniola) and we had a free bar/food + free fridge in the room, filled with small bottles of beer and wine.

Hadn't brought a corkscrew or bottle opener - essentials, never forget again!

Went to the wee shop in the hotel, saw a nice 'Eagle style' opener and paid for it, no idea at that point about currency values.

Turns out it cost me SEVEN POUNDS.


The worst thing was, got up the next day and found a wall mounted bot opener beside the tv............

Did that include VAT?
mortonjag 2010-01-30 07:54:31
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 30 2010, 06:34 AM) [snapback]704863[/snapback]
Two-time major winner John Daly, emotional in the wake of missing the cut at the Farmers Insurance Open at Torrey Pines, told a TV interviewer Friday he was "done" with golf.

"I'm done," Daly told the Golf Channel after rounds of 79-71.

"I can't compete. I can't play like I use too. I can't keep taking spots from guys out here playing this bad," added Daly, who has played on sponsors' exemptions since losing his past champion exemption after the 2007 season.

"It's not worth it," Daly said. "I'm tired of embarassing myself in front of (my fans). I can't do it anymore."

sad.gif

Obviously finding it all very taxing.
mortonjag 2010-01-30 07:56:26 Has the nice wee Mummy's boy from Dunblane emigrated yet.

Avoiding paying tax seems to be the 'in thing' throughout sport those days! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-30 08:01:39
QUOTE(se65an @ Jan 29 2010, 02:40 PM) [snapback]704448[/snapback]
Great news.

Anyone else?

What date has been set for the revolution Sawney Bean? huh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-30 08:12:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 30 2010, 06:12 AM) [snapback]704861[/snapback]
And i cherish your dedication as it means i get text updates from the game since i work most Saturdays.

I still haven't seen Morton score a goal this season. sad.gif

Get a locum Rabbi next week.
mortonjag 2010-01-30 09:31:14
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 30 2010, 08:57 AM) [snapback]704885[/snapback]
yap yap

[attachment=6426:uglyweirddog.jpg]
mortonjag 2010-01-30 09:32:27
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 30 2010, 08:59 AM) [snapback]704887[/snapback]
yap
yap yap

[attachment=6427:sam_ugly_dog.jpg]
mortonjag 2010-01-30 10:30:14
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 30 2010, 10:19 AM) [snapback]704909[/snapback]
Give 'em the old razzle dazzle
Razzle dazzle 'em
Back since the days of old Methuselah
Everyone loves the big bambooz-a-ler

[attachment=6428:AlexSalmond.jpg]

You can indeed fool some of the people some of the time Spurtle! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-30 10:37:33 It had BETTER be on.

That is all! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-30 10:40:30
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 30 2010, 10:32 AM) [snapback]704914[/snapback]
MJ, should you not be at Cappielow helping with the covers ?

Whit - a decrepit slevering old fool with a mobility scooter, a glass eye, false teeth, and a colostomy bag who regularly takes it up the erse from rent boys and doesn't vomit at the initials JG -yer jokin' Newt! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-30 10:42:42
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Jan 30 2010, 10:40 AM) [snapback]704921[/snapback]
If its off can we not just play them next saturday since both teams are oot the cup.

We've got a wee bit of momentum after last Saturday and they played a cup tie midweek. It NEEDS to be played today---PLEASE! blink.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-30 10:46:23
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 30 2010, 10:01 AM) [snapback]704905[/snapback]
That what I heard she said as well.
THE FUNNIEST Story about Greenock ever. Brilliant.
I wonder if she give him a special offer of 50% off or 2 for the price of 1 .

She's apparently been charged under her full name of Susan K Dick, though she's popularly known as Sue.
mortonjag 2010-01-30 10:48:48
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jan 30 2010, 10:45 AM) [snapback]704925[/snapback]
I reckon it'll be fine. biggrin.gif

Thank f*ck! blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-30 10:50:16
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 30 2010, 10:44 AM) [snapback]704924[/snapback]
Of course, you are too busy reading the Tele, I suppose.

Don't bother reading the front page.

I can't get it up here in the smoke I'm afraid. Has Shoogly finally pegged it or summit? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-30 10:53:41
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jan 30 2010, 10:51 AM) [snapback]704932[/snapback]
Could someone please post as soon as they find out, save me travelling down for no reason, thanks.

Largston's usually correct about those matters - probably shaggin' the groundsman or something! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-30 11:01:56
QUOTE(Patg @ Jan 30 2010, 10:56 AM) [snapback]704938[/snapback]
Just had call from park game off ,,,
Pat G

DAMMIT
mortonjag 2010-01-30 11:36:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 30 2010, 11:14 AM) [snapback]704954[/snapback]
Scott Gillan estimated gross takings of 14,000 pounds, IIRC.

Stuart Duncan says that the event LOST 1,600 pounds.

Unbelievable.

Was Scott Gillan involved?

This is all very taxing on the mind.


I take it that is the matter closed for all concerned.
mortonjag 2010-01-30 12:04:17
QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Jan 30 2010, 11:04 AM) [snapback]704945[/snapback]
I don't think it requires saving Ian. In fact if it's not in existence this time next year I'll donate £500 to Morton.

I'm sure if I'm proved wrong MJ would be willing do the same happy.gif

Well Nostraduncus, I'd say that coming from a man of so few words that terse statement (with or without the smiley) speaks volumes.

Has Mortonjag EVER said that the Trust is a bad idea?

Mortonjag fervently hopes that the Trust will be alive and kicking this time next year-open, honest, user friendly, fan orientated etc., etc. and Mortonjag genuinely sends all concerned every good wish in aiming for that. Open your arms and your doors to the fans. Make them feel part of things. The rest will fall into place.
mortonjag 2010-01-30 12:52:31
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jan 30 2010, 12:39 PM) [snapback]704998[/snapback]
Went to look at the Astra estate this morning over in Helensburgh, looks like we're getting a cracking deal for 450 sheets to be honest. Now to get a decent insurance quote...not going to be easy considering that my girlfriend (the policy holder) has never driven in the UK before.

click

I don't know how useful but there are several links.
mortonjag 2010-01-30 14:33:32
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jan 30 2010, 02:29 PM) [snapback]705040[/snapback]
Is it fair to say if something isn't saved it might not be in existence?

Like credibility?
mortonjag 2010-01-30 14:56:09
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jan 30 2010, 02:35 PM) [snapback]705044[/snapback]
You're beyond saving Ernesto.

I know that.

The point which was being made (I think) was that the subject matter of today's Tilly report- taking all personalities out of the equation - reflects very badly on the Trust.

There is general dissatisfaction with the leadership within the Trust, and the main criticism appears to be that all forward looking suggestions are baulked on the strength of 'regulations'.

The Trust's credibility is at an all time low, and membership has been falling. The timing of Stuart's comments (coming as they did within hours of the Tilly report) allied to their patently defensive nature may indicate a man who listens but does not hear.

Has Stuart been taking lessons from the master?
mortonjag 2010-01-30 14:59:31
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 30 2010, 01:50 PM) [snapback]705031[/snapback]
neither did this one, some athletic movement from my agile body prevented me from certain injury.

**notice no silly gif as I'm serious**

Did ye nearly get a lolly stick up yer urethra Kojie? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-30 20:02:05
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Jan 30 2010, 06:49 PM) [snapback]705154[/snapback]
Okay, no allegations.

The allegations won't go away Danny.

The police investigation led by experienced detectives concluded that no charges should be brought, but you seem to think you are above the law.

Today, and on behalf of the Trust you accused Jim Gallacher of theft.

By all means let the Trust pursue a civil action. As you correctly state less stringent rules apply than in criminal cases. 'Summary causes' (which apply in all claims of less than £3,000) are decided by an experienced Sheriff, and on the balance of probability. There will be no jury, and the Sheriff's decision will be final and binding.

It won't cost much, and you may win. Sue for over £3,000 and a similar system applies though costs are MUCH higher.

Where does that leave the Trust, if you sue and lose?

Defamation actions are expensive. There is little point in bringing them unless the accused has substantial means.

The Trust is relatively wealthy.
mortonjag 2010-01-30 20:25:01
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Jan 30 2010, 08:16 PM) [snapback]705202[/snapback]
MJ - it was a personal post, NOT a trust post, and I will stand or fall by the post.

no worries here mate........................

I merely called it as I see it Danny. If the Summary Cause summons is to read

Daniel Goodwin v James Gallacher

please accept my apology.
mortonjag 2010-01-30 21:21:34
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jan 30 2010, 08:54 PM) [snapback]705225[/snapback]
I'm sure the Trust will have access to lot's of free legal assistance and advice, can't say the same about Osama Bin Gallacher. ph34r.gif where is he anyway, hasn't posted on here in ages.

http://www.supporters-direct.org/page.asp?p=2247

As Manchesterton has just suggested, the bitching doesn't help.

Of course the Trust is free to pursue a civil action if it feels that is the correct way to go, and of course it can take as much legal advice as it wishes.

If it wins, Mr Gallacher will be given 'time to pay' dependent on his means, and the Trust could very well end up getting £20 a month for a very long time. That's the sort of Pyrrhic victory that can be envisaged.

Mr Gallacher will be able to avail himself of the excellent and free 'in house' legal advice now available within the Scottish Sheriff Courts.

If he wins, the Trust will be liable for all costs and expenses, after which he may consider what action, if any, to take against today's and any further (then proven) libellous statements.
mortonjag 2010-01-30 21:39:21
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Jan 30 2010, 09:31 PM) [snapback]705235[/snapback]
MJ - What would you have done in the Trusts position knowing that money was missing ?
Forget all your scenarios by the way - I am 100% watertight.

Danny, what I may or may not have done is entirely irrelevant.

I don't understand your term 'scenarios'. I have merely explained the pros and cons of pursuing a legal action against Mr Gallacher.

As for you being 100% watertight, I have no reason to doubt your sincerity in so stating. It will, however, be up to a Sheriff, to make judgement on that matter.
mortonjag 2010-01-30 21:47:46
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Jan 30 2010, 09:40 PM) [snapback]705243[/snapback]
Just answer the question MJ

I would attempt to answer the question if I was party to all the information which led you to reach your decision.

From the information I do have , I believe not only that the Trust will fail in any attempted civil action, but that in going down that road even more damage will be done. I cannot miss the fact that very recently Mr McColl denied the concept of 'heid bummers' at the Trust, eloquently citing the principle of 'one person one vote'.

If the Trust does pursue a civil action, will it do so after balloting the membership?
mortonjag 2010-01-30 22:18:28
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jan 30 2010, 09:55 PM) [snapback]705253[/snapback]
Only if you believe that the Trust should now be looking at damage limitation.

Not pursuing all avenues to 'right a wrong' would leave the Trust looking like a soft target, which would be far more damaging in the long term.

Maybe they should've accepted the £1500 offered (if indeed that was the case).

That presupposes that there has been wrongdoing. I imagine you intended to add the word 'alleged'.

I believe that the Trust currently finds itself in a very precarious situation, specifically insofar as certain individuals may be allowing personal agendas to cloud what is known fact - namely that available evidence has already been scrutinised by the police and that no charges have been brought.

I sincerely believe that any further litigation is likely to fail. It is, however, for the trust members to make a democratic decision regarding the wisdom of such an action. Much has already been lost in terms of credibility. My view of damage limitation would be to drop the matter forthwith.
mortonjag 2010-01-31 07:16:29
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jan 30 2010, 10:31 PM) [snapback]705277[/snapback]
Fixed that for you... rolleyes.gif (Although he did pay for the Austria trip rolleyes.gif )

Don't bother making unfounded allegations. It's common knowledge that AD is a bankrupt UDA sniper who took the poor old fud to the cleaners.

The next set of accounts ain't due out for a few months tail bearer. rolleyes.gif

Anyway what's the boss saying about the latest Trust fiasco - let me think.

'Good morning David my good chap, how those fans love each other. I was just saying to myself last night, boy, that it couldn't have come at a better time for me - there's hardly been a mention of my not having made any more signings. Put the kettle on David, there's a good lad, while I tell you a little joke.

They claim that they're going to pursue that poor Gallacher wretch -what do you think of that David my boy- how dare they use my word -isn't that a Goodwin'?
mortonjag 2010-01-31 07:45:06
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Jan 31 2010, 12:32 AM) [snapback]705393[/snapback]
Newton - due to the fact that I have raised the matter of possible civil action against a certain party I would not divulge any of the facts that I have uncovered.
I have been on the case, so to speak, from around the time of the police involvement.
The reason for doing so is that I suspected early on that the police may encounter problems due to the lack of a paper-trail.
I has stayed away from posting on this matter until now, after having read so much speculation, guesswork, rumour etc etc.
Those people who know me from old know I wouldn't make such a serious allegation without concrete evidence.

The truth will eventually out and rest assured I will do all in my power to get the Trust members money back.

Capitanus - yes it is all very sad, but no-one is going to get away with stealing members money.
Things were done in a dignified way and I have stayed off this messageboard re this topic, concentrating on building evidence to get our members money back.

It is such a shame that this has blackened such a great night, but unfortunately money was stolen and that really is the bottom line.



Bollocks, Columbo. Put up or shut up. Sub -judice constrictions do not apply in summary civil law. Indeed they only apply in criminal law between the stages of charging and judgement. That you do not appear to know that does not surprise me. The Moderators were wise to supress speculation prior to the outcome of the police investigation . The matter was, however, NEVER SUB JUDICE, and I believe posters AND Moderators should be clear about that.

NewTon's question will NOT go away and Mortonjag requires an answer too. Mortonjag suspects that The Trust may have been trying to 'work a flanker on VAT' by paying for goods and services in cash.

If that is the case, it's no big deal really, unless others choose to make it so. smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-31 08:17:50
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 31 2010, 07:56 AM) [snapback]705462[/snapback]
I thought it was 6 bottle openers at £3 a pop. unsure.gif



QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 31 2010, 08:10 AM) [snapback]705463[/snapback]
See the Andy Morrison thread.

Those two posts sum it up nicely for me!

Was it Corkscrew £18 but intended to be Corkscrews £18.

Hold on -maybe it was really 18 corkscrews at £1 (I've seen them in Poundland if anybody's interested), 'cos I gather an AWFUL lot of bottles were opened, and everybody took a bucket. ph34r.gif

mortonjag 2010-01-31 08:26:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jan 30 2010, 10:33 PM) [snapback]705278[/snapback]
Has Andy's detailed take on the night been deleted ?

Are things now sub judice once again because the Trust MAY take civil action ?

Things were NEVER sub-judice Newt, nor will they be unless criminal charges are made.

The Mods have got their knickers in a twist over all this and in a way I feel sorry for them if they're being 'leaned on' by those and such as those.

They are all we've got I'm afraid, and they do their best. I mean that sincerely.

I would, however, ask the Mods to think very carefully about any complaints they receive concerning the Stars of '79 money as there are undoubtedly people 'in power' who would prefer certain matters not to be discussed, and I repeat.

SUB JUDICE RESTRICTIONS ONLY APPLY TO CASES IN PROGRESS.
mortonjag 2010-01-31 11:24:57
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jan 30 2010, 05:07 PM) [snapback]705096[/snapback]
Is everyone in the same boat with car insurance this year. Just paid ours yesterday and it has went up a bit. Usually we can get something cheaper from the West of Scotland, but not this year. I checked on compare the market and they were all even dearer. Is it just us, or is everyone's car insurance a bit dearer this year. I seen something on the news the other day that policies have went up on average 18% this year.

There are several good 'compare sites' - it just depends on how hard you're willing to work. If you go to Martin's money tips website, and follow their advice on which sites to use you'll not go far wrong. Tesco has its own compare site for insurance which believe it or not is impartial despite the fact that they sell it.
mortonjag 2010-01-31 11:27:16
QUOTE(dazed @ Jan 31 2010, 10:55 AM) [snapback]705484[/snapback]
Alex Salmond may not be everybodys cup of tea, but he IS preferable to that ar** Gordon Brown or sleekit Tory Cameron .

Which makes them VERY ugly!
[attachment=6433:AlexSalmond.jpg]
mortonjag 2010-01-31 11:44:11 Judy will at this moment be very upset at missing her cut of the MUNNY for the wee laddie. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-31 11:46:27
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 31 2010, 11:28 AM) [snapback]705494[/snapback]
He reminds me of that old cartoon character DEPUTY DAWG. Remember that one folks.

Did he not have baws?
mortonjag 2010-01-31 12:03:39
QUOTE(Flyerton @ Jan 31 2010, 11:52 AM) [snapback]705507[/snapback]
Avatar of Harold Shipman ? bag.gif How could you? thumbdown.gif

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2010-01-31 12:05:43
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 31 2010, 11:52 AM) [snapback]705506[/snapback]
He is a cartoon character MJ. I am eginnining to worry about you.
Cartoon characters like the characters on this s***e sorry site are not real. wink.gif
It is all make believe.

So Stuart Duncan's just a sham?
mortonjag 2010-01-31 12:08:08
QUOTE(Flyerton @ Jan 31 2010, 12:03 PM) [snapback]705512[/snapback]

Ach well, if the polis don't pin it on the rogue I've no doubt the DVLA will access the County Courts! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-31 12:09:21
QUOTE(londonref @ Jan 31 2010, 11:55 AM) [snapback]705508[/snapback]
Forum members may have noticed a distinct absence from young Christopher. Reason for this is that he's in H South of Inverclyde Royal after his appendix burst. He likes red grapes.
Thanks.

REALLY!
mortonjag 2010-01-31 12:25:43
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 31 2010, 08:48 AM) [snapback]705470[/snapback]
I never really understood why posts and threads were deleted. Apart from those that contained personal attacks the other posts should have remained.
Like many other fans I want to know what happened to the funds from the Stars of '79 event. We knew that it became a Police matter and all we were looking for was information.
The silence from all parties involved in this event lead to gossip and Chinese whispers reagarding the allegations.
Surely it was better for those involved to make statements at the time ?
Eventually information started to filter through via this forum, but posts still began to disappear with no explanation.
People can argue whether this is the platform to air their views on who is guilty or innocent. But remember this is a fans forum and one of the few places were we can comment on something that many of us are very angry about.

Or indeed if any crime was ever committed - something which should concern all folk who REALLY want the truth, and especially as the police found no case to answer. It strikes me as bizarre that allegedly damning evidence has only appeared after the matter was reported in the local newspaper - evidence which had apparently been available for some time. Why was that withheld from the police?

It is utterly reprehensible and potentially libellous to name an individual publicly as a 'thief' without having proof. Evidence does not have to be retained - this matter is not and will never be sub judice unless criminal proceedings are instituted.
mortonjag 2010-01-31 12:31:21
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 31 2010, 12:19 PM) [snapback]705525[/snapback]
Spot

Is spot no that dug wi' a name that rhymes wi' stallion?
mortonjag 2010-01-31 12:38:53
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 31 2010, 12:34 PM) [snapback]705537[/snapback]
I thought you had a 3 piece suite to deliver today or did you cancel the van as soon as you realised there was no Trust meeting planned for today?

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The job will be done as arranged Kojie!

What do you think of Mr Goodwin's allegations and subsequent refusal to substantiate them?
mortonjag 2010-01-31 12:42:55
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 31 2010, 12:08 PM) [snapback]705517[/snapback]
Somehow I don't think they'll be missing the money. I think this woman is an inspriration. If all parents were as dedicated as she is then there would be fewer problems in society. Likewise, if all kids were as focused as Murray there would be the same outcome. Murray's problem today was that he was up against the greatest tennis player we have ever seen.

I think she is a hard faced ambitious money grabbing cow who has foisted her ambitions on her wee boy, Peter.

She could of course have started injecting heroin and left him an abandoned wretch.
mortonjag 2010-01-31 12:50:15
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 31 2010, 12:45 PM) [snapback]705544[/snapback]
Like I said, I don't think she needed the money Douglas.

Perhaps ego comes into it a wee bit too Peter.

Would you shag her? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-31 12:52:01
QUOTE(Andre Boe @ Jan 31 2010, 12:44 PM) [snapback]705543[/snapback]
Aw cool, another thread on this crap.

Why is the potential demise of the Trust leadership regarded as 'crap'? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-31 15:02:14
QUOTE(Grady @ Jan 31 2010, 02:24 PM) [snapback]705581[/snapback]
May I refer you to a quote from HRMC website? I thought you knew EVERYTHING too!

Well you clearly do not. The Trust is NOT exempt from PAYING VAT. Registered charities which satisfy certain provisions may be exempt from charging VAT. So far as I am aware, the Trust is not VAT registered and has no need to charge VAT.



QUOTE(rawheed rex @ Jan 31 2010, 02:35 PM) [snapback]705583[/snapback]
as the night was to rais money for a registered charity do thay pay tax? just asking as i dont know but thought charitys wer tax exempt.

As above.
They pay VAT for goods and services.
mortonjag 2010-01-31 15:55:45
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Jan 31 2010, 03:04 PM) [snapback]705590[/snapback]
MJ - this will be my last post on the matter.
It is a personal statement.

I am 100% confident that I have the evidence required to get the trust members money back from one individual.
I have prepared a full report on the matter which will be published at the appropriate time.
I had kept away from the topic due to all the rumour, innuendo, guesswork while I worked away in the background to get to the whole truth of the matter, especially in the circumstances of there being a lack of a papertrail.
I have not sat idly by - I have done my utmost to make a thorough investigation as has been practically possible based on the experience of my former employment.

In the fullness of time ALL THE FACTS pertaining to the missing money will be published and there for all to see.

In my position of being a Trust Board member I am duty bound to to protect shareholders money, but even at that, as an individual I will not stand by and do nothing when members money has been misapropriated.

So MJ - you can make all of your normal thunderings, questions, suggestions or whatever - I won't be coming back on to this messageboard to duscuss this topic any further.
Try and cloud the issue, get MJs little helpers to assist, but rest assured you will all be wasting your time.
You will no doubt be prepared to remain forever on your merry-go-round, but in time everyone will know exactly what happened to the missing money.
Try all you might to get information from me (or from any other Trust board member for that matter, whom I'm sure will also ignore your nonsensical ramblings) - you can pose questions, make assumptions, challenges or whatever - You will not get a response.
As I have said, I will post the FACTS of the matter at the appropriate time for everyone to see.

And I will repeat, I am 100% confident in getting the Trust members money back.

Mortonjag's 'nonsensical ramblings' seemed to have touched a vulnerable spot.

Making that your last post will undoubtedly persuade others that perhaps YOU have something to hide! As for your comments about your previous employment I have already reminded you that the matter was investigated by qualified detectives who found no case to answer. Again I suggest that you appear to consider yourself to be above the law. Mortonjag is 100% confident not only that you have little chance of pursuing a successful civil action, but also that failure to do so may render the Trust liable to prosecution for defamation of character.

QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Jan 31 2010, 03:34 PM) [snapback]705599[/snapback]
I can answer that and it will also be my last post on the subject. I have a detailed account of all moneys paid into the Trust account and all monies paid out of the Trust account for the event. And a very clear paper trail with both cheque stubs and pay in book stubs backed up by Trust bank account statements from the BOS.
There is a very clear deficit of £1600 for the event.

BTW I agree with Danny summation given he has also made enquiries of people the police didn't talk to.

Did the Trust authorise or instruct cash payments in order to avoid having to pay VAT Mr Duncan?

As always, when the Trust is asked questions the 'heid bummers' retreat into their little cocoon. Can you confirm whether or not the Trust will be pursuing a civil action against Mr. Gallacher, and does the Trust endorse its representative's allegations that Mr Gallacher stole money?
mortonjag 2010-01-31 16:06:40
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 31 2010, 12:07 AM) [snapback]705366[/snapback]
Calling Willowman ‘Osama’ really sums up the stupidity of this forum these days.
If you're tacitly, or overtly, accusing a man of fraud then 'Osama' is a ridiculous nickname. If he'd tried to blow up the 'Stars of '79' night by hijacking two Ford Fiestas packed with El D laced explosives then it may be appropriate but if I were accusing someone of underhand shenanigans of a fraudulent nature I would surely look to Nick Leeson or Robert Maxwell as better reference points.

That said, you’re all ****ing mental.

HMM.

Osama usually gets his target in the end, AND he's still alive to tell the story! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-31 16:14:33
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 31 2010, 04:04 PM) [snapback]705614[/snapback]
Mortonjag can I ask what time the van hire company is open to tonight?

Has your auntie Jenny sorted out VAT she avoided paying during recent building work?

You just have!

I thought you weren't interested in posting on this matter Kojie!

Can I ask you if you sit adjacent to Sean Donnelly, Andy Morrison, and Danny Goodwin at away matches, and can I also ask you when I'm finally going to get to sook your big lolly? smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-31 16:16:15
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jan 31 2010, 04:06 PM) [snapback]705617[/snapback]
John Scott????

In a zip?
mortonjag 2010-01-31 16:21:23
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 31 2010, 04:14 PM) [snapback]705623[/snapback]
Willow has left the country and is now holed up on an island retreat.

Meanwhile Stuart and Danny have reported him to the anti-terrorist squad and asked for police protection support from the retired pigs' peashooting club.
mortonjag 2010-01-31 16:25:40
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jan 31 2010, 01:06 PM) [snapback]705557[/snapback]
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It would appear that finally you are getting it... rolleyes.gif ph34r.gif laugh.gif
Whatever he is saying he has not said anything to me on the matter - there was a GMFC board meeting on Thursday night attended bt DDF and Stuart Duncan - I have no idea if the issue was raised, spoken about or not. And it does not really matter what his view on it is - nothing will shatter your delusions on his thought processes.... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I see Dave. But he's not slow to tell you things when he wants you to tell us, and you're not slow to tell him things either, if my information is correct! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-31 16:32:38
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 31 2010, 04:29 PM) [snapback]705630[/snapback]
You just have!

I fail to see what you hiring a van today and delivering a 3 piece suite has got to do with the matter at hand.

Yes I have been know sit next to the trio at away games but not at ever at home games where I'm normally with Sean, if you are still not sure who I am I can pm you a picture, I'll make a point of looking out for you at Palmerston and sharing a lolly or two with you.

Seems you're not keen on being associated with those others! laugh.gif

Oh - and I know exactly who you are because one of my sources told me!
mortonjag 2010-01-31 16:46:04
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 31 2010, 04:41 PM) [snapback]705635[/snapback]
Those others like to watch their football from the stand side at Cappielow where as I like to stand in the shed, same spot every game.

I would say no less than 90% of posters and readers on this board know who I am, Ive never made any secret of my identity.


Aye but yer picture's not on your profile! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-31 17:00:28
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Jan 31 2010, 04:55 PM) [snapback]705644[/snapback]
I only feel compelled to comment in the Other/Euro footy thread as certain morons just ruin this whole site for me these days.

In fact I think I may just stop posting here altogether. just let the w**k stains (guvnor et al) slug it out.

Well you'll not be offended if I say 'excellent', as you already have me on ignore!

I have a professional friend who does sense of humour grafts if you are interested.
mortonjag 2010-01-31 17:04:38
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Jan 31 2010, 05:00 PM) [snapback]705651[/snapback]
Why? Thats just silly.

I agree with you that it's silly not to get receipts. The Stars of '79 evening was supposed to be based on goodwill and mutual trust among like minded Morton fans. It's very clear in retrospect that a great number of transactions cannot be accounted for, probably because they were carried out in good faith.
mortonjag 2010-01-31 17:18:58
QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Jan 31 2010, 05:03 PM) [snapback]705653[/snapback]
Try new glasses!!

I can answer that and it will also be my last post on the subject. I have a detailed account of all moneys paid into the Trust account and all monies paid out of the Trust account for the event. And a very clear paper trail with both cheque stubs and pay in book stubs backed up by Trust bank account statements from the BOS.
There is a very clear deficit of £1600 for the event.

BTW I agree with Danny summation given he has also made enquiries of people the police didn't talk to.

That's bizarre - you promised earlier today not to post again.

Good gracious Stuart, you've said sweet f*ck all for years when we wanted answers and now your knickers are in such a twist over this shambolic farce that you're losing the place! unsure.gif

Having said that, I sincerely believe that intelligent posters will not now fail to spot the usual closing of ranks and deafening silence.

So far as I can see you haven't a snowball's chance in hell of pursuing a successful small claims action. Mr Goodwin HAS made a potentially libellous statement in his capacity as a senior Trust official. You may very well 'go away' but that will not, and is held on record.

One final word. I have an excellent optician who is approachable at all times, financially successful, and never afraid to answer questions.
mortonjag 2010-01-31 17:26:58 Maybe I shouldn't.
mortonjag 2010-01-31 17:37:28
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2010, 05:26 PM) [snapback]705691[/snapback]
You should really watch when saying things like that as - and I'm not taking sides here - you harked on for ages that someone was coming on to post and they still haven't.

In fact, you should just watch what you are saying on here in general. Be it in PMs or otherwise.

I always watch what I'm saying, and I don't like the tone of that post. Veiled threats young man. Read the rules.

If you are not 'taking sides' I fail to see the point of your post other that yet again to attempt to undermine Mortonjag's credibility.

I don't understand your comment about p.m.'s, though I assume it must relate to a p.m. I sent to you this morning - and incidentally I'm still waiting for a reply to the only other one I EVER sent you well over a year ago, and to which you promised (on more than one occasion on this massage board) to answer.

Would you like to explain what you meant? If you have any problem with the p.m. you can always p.m.me back or let one of the Mods read it.
mortonjag 2010-01-31 17:45:28
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 31 2010, 05:42 PM) [snapback]705711[/snapback]
As a loan-note holder of the Trust I've been perusing this message-board for the past couple of weeks with great interest trying to find out what happened, It's really annoying that mods keep deleting posts. I think we deserve to know the truth.

From what I can make out the accusers reckon £1600 went missing and that someone ( MR X ) took it.

I also read that MR X promised to pay back the £1600 if the accusers never went to the polis. Does that mean MR X acknowledges wrong-doing on his part ?

Would it not have been easy for the accusers to accept that offer from MR X (if indeed it did happen like that) then everybody would be a winner, The Trust get the money back and MR X doesn't lose face publicly. Seemed like a much easier solution than going to the police. Do the accusers feel that the detectives never done their job properly ?

Also, it seems the accusers have ''detailed information, paper-trails etc - why the hell was this info not presented to the polis ?

If money went missing I'd like to know if someone done something bad like theft/embezzlement or if it was just bad book-keeping.

I know the accusers and MR X, pretty much everyone at the centre of it fairly well (apart from Mr Duncan that I only knowsmall talk and to say hello/ other pleasantries to to) so I'd really like to know what transpired

The mind boggles it really does.

Finally, and don't laugh, I read on the trust website in the ''pinned section'' there was to be an open meeting in the Morton Supporters Club on 1st February. I thought that was today and I very very nearly cancelled my overtime at work so I could go to it. I was informed by a friend that the meeting was 1st February ''last year''.

If the accusers/MR X won't be posting anything else about it for now then I guess I will remain for now in the dark, just like the rest of the boarders.

Well put WDE, and the answer to the highlighted question is a categorical 'NO'.
mortonjag 2010-01-31 18:02:11
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 31 2010, 05:51 PM) [snapback]705716[/snapback]
Well if he didnt feel he had done anything wrong then why would he offer to pay the money back ?

I just don't see the logic.

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Well you said that 'you heard', so like yourself I was only dealing with it as a hypothetical question. I reckon that if your Mr X offered to pay £1600, or whatever sum, that could have been for any number of reasons, and categorically does NOT prove wrongdoing.

For example Mr X may have acted in good faith throughout, while still not being able to fully account for certain alleged discrepancies, and 'on his own', and confronted by authority figures demanding money and/or police action, he may have simply made the offer because he felt intimidated.
mortonjag 2010-01-31 18:10:58
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2010, 05:29 PM) [snapback]705698[/snapback]
84.74% smile.gif

puggsy_ton


Today, 05:30 PM
Fun Patrol
Joined: 25-April 05
Posts: 16,987
Views: 3,110

And mainly smileys, nudies, spamming, and cheap 'go's at much more intelligent posters.

I'm tempted to say 'Pot, kettle, and black'.

Now where did I hear that before? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-31 18:13:58
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 31 2010, 06:00 PM) [snapback]705719[/snapback]
What? That the parcel of rougues are each as untrustworthy as the next.

SHH! they are all around us. I no longer trust anybody, but between you and me Barbie I think that Willy Man was shaggin' Columbo's boyfriend and he fun oot.
mortonjag 2010-01-31 18:30:13
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Jan 31 2010, 06:22 PM) [snapback]705728[/snapback]
the only thing I can think of other than the obvious is the embarrasment of mismanging the money on phone bills or forgtting to get receipts or something.

Or complete shock at 'friends' threatening him with the polis?
mortonjag 2010-01-31 19:08:58
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 31 2010, 06:33 PM) [snapback]705731[/snapback]
Alan I can assure you that there is no Columbo stuff going on as regard to Jim G and the Trust,

MJ - this will be my last post on the matter.
It is a personal statement.

I am 100% confident that I have the evidence required to get the trust members money back from one individual.
I have prepared a full report on the matter which will be published at the appropriate time.
I had kept away from the topic due to all the rumour, innuendo, guesswork while I worked away in the background to get to the whole truth of the matter, especially in the circumstances of there being a lack of a papertrail.
I have not sat idly by - I have done my utmost to make a thorough investigation as has been practically possible based on the experience of my former employment.

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mortonjag 2010-01-31 19:30:00
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2010, 07:03 PM) [snapback]705738[/snapback]
You've heard it when I have said it to you countless times lately about you demanding people provide their evidence despite the fact we all know you come and whine on here all the time about knowing things and never back them up.

But then again, you knew that smile.gif

You have NOT used the term for some considerable time in the above capacity young man so I'm going to call you a barefaced LIAR.

Nor did you reply to my original p.m. on that topic despite at least two promises on this massage board so I'm going to call you a habitual barefaced LIAR.


mortonjag 2010-01-31 19:40:10
QUOTE(Grady @ Jan 31 2010, 07:17 PM) [snapback]705743[/snapback]
Oh really? In fact, I know more than enough about that type of thing.

It's all about perception, monkey****er. My point was that the Trust simply HAD to pay VAT for (most) goods and services. And, for the record, not all relevant payments were made in cash. I didn't feel that you HAD to know that either, but you really are a nosey ol bugger rolleyes.gif

There's no need to be unpleasant Gordy. Your point was an attempt to distract attention.

I asked Mr Duncan if the trust authorised/instructed payments to be made in cash to avoid paying VAT, and I still await his answer. Perhaps the king is in the Counting House spending all the money! rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 31 2010, 07:18 PM) [snapback]705744[/snapback]
Mortonjag I trust you are getting tired and it's getting close to your bed time, if you read it again I'm sure you'll realise I was referring to myself and not anyone else.

How did you get on with the 3 piece suite today?

Ok Kojie, but I always knew you weren't Columbo - totally different class from that sleazy tramp of a man.

And the suite's gone - for which Mairi's been whispering suite nothings in my shell like! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-01-31 19:50:17
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 31 2010, 07:08 PM) [snapback]705741[/snapback]
and what gives you the impression I know half of what BayTon knows and says he knows?

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mortonjag 2010-01-31 20:02:03
QUOTE(TiTon @ Jan 31 2010, 07:57 PM) [snapback]705760[/snapback]
Return to seen of crime. midton. $)

TiTson?
mortonjag 2010-01-31 20:03:41
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2010, 07:53 PM) [snapback]705759[/snapback]
Yeah about that.

I couldn't be bothered.

Then I deleted it to make room to PM a Bawhied Xmas card out.

Then I went to London.

Then I delivered a 3 piece suite while managing to stay online all day

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mortonjag 2010-01-31 20:05:20
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2010, 08:04 PM) [snapback]705764[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2010-01-31 20:13:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2010, 08:06 PM) [snapback]705766[/snapback]
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Sting in the tail
mortonjag 2010-01-31 20:25:29
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jan 31 2010, 08:15 PM) [snapback]705771[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2010-02-01 06:38:24
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jan 31 2010, 08:41 PM) [snapback]705784[/snapback]
Fixed that for you again - two fixes in the one week - this could get quite addictive... laugh.gif rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

Dave, we really must stop making asses of ourselves on the Trussssssssssht's property. Who knows, some retired helmet of a polisman may be watching, and before we know it he'll be accusing us of intent to defraud the Customs and Exciseman, and citing video evidence.

OOPS - time for my morning medication. The Monkey usually injects me, but he didn't come home last night. He took my spare specs down to Honest Stu the optician for checking. Phoned last night to say they were brand new, and that Stu had asked him for a favour - to run through some figures with him.

I'm sure he'll be back by the end of the week.
mortonjag 2010-02-01 06:49:19
QUOTE(Grady @ Feb 1 2010, 12:13 AM) [snapback]705841[/snapback]
Hey, unpleasant is what I do wink.gif The truth will out I'm sure. Eventually.

Are you a Trust board member? laugh.gif

I don't share your confidence.

What I am sure of is that in the cold light of morning it could not be clearer that Messrs Duncan and Goodwin have reverted to their usual Trusssssssssht tactics of hiding away from legitimate questions - in this case after launching a shocking and reprehensible accusation designed to destroy a man who is not even charged of a crime, let alone innocent until proven guilty.

That the police dismissed the case seems to have washed right over the top for two men who come across increasingly as arrogant,dismissive, and running scared.

Civil action. Will it be reported in the Beano?
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mortonjag 2010-02-01 08:11:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 1 2010, 07:19 AM) [snapback]705859[/snapback]
MJ,

How old are the specs in your avatar ?
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As the Chairman of the Trust suggests ...
Try new glasses!!

I can answer that and it will also be my last post on the subject.

I have a detailed account of all moneys paid into the Trust account and all monies paid out of the Trust account for the event.

And a very clear paper trail with both cheque stubs and pay in book stubs backed up by Trust bank account statements from the BOS.

There is a very clear deficit of £1600 for the event.

BTW I agree with Danny summation given he has also made enquiries of people the police didn't talk to.
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MJ, please put on yer new specs and then read Mr Duncan's statement more than once.

[b]Do you see something very interesting ?[/b]

If not, I am sure than a bloke such as Tonsilitis certainly can.

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I'm not a money man I'm afraid Newt, but Honest Stu the optician confirmed last night that the Gregories are Kocher.

I'm very, very puzzled though about cheque stubs and bank accounts and wee bits of paper, and in particular about paper deficits. Somehow that makes me think of trying to wipe your arse with no toilet roll.

When Mortonjag is constipated, he plays Johnny CASH music on the Tranny.

Sorry Newt, VAT was that you just said? ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-01 08:15:23
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 31 2010, 01:11 PM) [snapback]705559[/snapback]
My wife might be a bit annoyed if I did Douglas.

F*ck your wife! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-01 09:35:16
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 1 2010, 09:14 AM) [snapback]705870[/snapback]
You could say Willowman has hidden away from legitimate questions MJ.

Willowman has not been charged and is innocent until proven guilty but still chooses to be silent.

If accusations were directed at me the first thing I would do is make sure everyone knew I was innocent.
Even if he has taken legal advice, surely you couldn't harm your defence by stating "I did not steal any money!"
I find his behaviour very bizzare I have to say.

I'll take your points one by one Spurtle.

You could say Willowman has hidden away from legitimate questions

Yes - you could. Forgetting for the moment that he is probably remaining silent after taking counsel, I'd like to remind you that in good old Scottish law the onus is on the accuser to prove the case. The defender is absolutely entitled to remain silent. Had Willy Man accused the Trust, it would be quite different.

Willowman has not been charged and is innocent until proven guilty but still chooses to be silent.

As he has NOT been charged with anything, the concept of innocence or guilt is entirely irrelevant.

If accusations were directed at me the first thing I would do is make sure everyone knew I was innocent.


If accusations were directed at me, the first thing I'd do would be to obtain legal advice and adhere to it.

I find his behaviour very bizzare I have to say.

I find his behaviour absolutely logical. Can the same be said of people who openly make potentially libellous accusations on a massage board governed by National libel laws, and who despite boasting arrogantly of having a cast iron case against Willy Man, have not asked the police to re-examine their 'new' evidence, instead mumbling vaguely about civil action before returning to the 'safety' of silence?

To me that smacks not only of bullying cowardice, but casts serious doubts on whether or not those two are fit to hold positions of power.




mortonjag 2010-02-01 09:53:22
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 1 2010, 09:28 AM) [snapback]705871[/snapback]
I have not posted on this subject at all but I can't let you away altogether with this answer.

1) The matter was investigated by qualified dectectives who found no case to answer
I come across and deal with the police on a very regular basis. This case is small beer to them and unless the evidence is gift wrapped and handed to them on a plate, they will probably not pursue it. I currently have a case where a director of a company has walked off with hundreds of thousands of company assets but did so on a cash basis. The only thing that can be evidenced is that assets that should have been there are not! That falls into the police's 'too difficult' tray and they will not pursue it.

If some one defrauds an employer or organisation, they have an interest in ensuring there is no proper paper trail. It does not make any less a crime!

I don't know the circumstances of this case and so will not comment specifically except to emphasise that just because the police are not interested does not mean nothing has happened!

Finally, because the police are not interested, does not mean there could not be a successful civil action to pursue the monies - the standard of evidence in a civil matter isless than in a criminal case - but it will not be easy and formulating a claim needs careful consideration to avoid thowing good money in court costs after bad!

2) Paying cash to avoid VAT

If the trust chose to pay cash to get a discount, good on them. It is for the seller of the goods, not the trust to account for the VAT. I think you will find that the situation is exactly the same as if you had an old aunty who paid cash for an extension to her house to avoid VAT!


I don't disagree with any of that, nor does it contradict anything I have said.

I'm not interested in the vagaries of police procedure. The Trust presented their 'evidence', and Willy Man has been officially exonerated.

If the Trust now has new 'cast iron' evidence - they claim they are 100% sure they can recover the alleged deficit - why not go back to those 'lazy and disinterested' polis with an easy peasy conviction?

I'm not going to argue the morality of deliberately avoiding paying VAT - as an accountant you appear to think it's ok, and legally that's a moot point.

What IS clear, however, is that this business has arisen out of a decision by the Trust to make cash payments for a large number of goods and services. If they had gone by the book the problem could not have arisen. If the TRUST had ensured a proper 'paper trail' they would not now be attempting to cover up their evident improvidence.
mortonjag 2010-02-01 10:45:33
QUOTE(Spencey @ Feb 1 2010, 10:02 AM) [snapback]705880[/snapback]
Just to clear up any confusion….if MJ’s comment regarding the law entitling the defender to remain silent, was meant as a reference to the criminal law, then of course that is correct. However, he used the expression “defenderâ€, a term used in civil, rather than in criminal cases and the defender in a civil suit is absolutely not entitled to that privilege. The defender, if he chooses to defend, must candidly state his defence or lose.
With regard to the matter of defamation, there certainly seems to have been a number of posts which could fall into that category. Of course in a defamation action “veritas†is an absolute defence. This raises the interesting strategic point- if instead of raising civil proceedings, the accuser simply makes potentially defamatory statements, this turns the tables somewhat and dares the person potentially defamed to stand up and pursue an action, taking the risk that the defender in that action will be able to prove they were telling the truth.

I'm certainly not confused!

I was alluding to the principle of innocence and guilt, and to the fact that the Trust has already attempted to secure a criminal prosecution.

In limbo - where we now sit - the concept of innocence and guilt, and 'defendant' or 'defender' is entirely irrelevant.

Your comments on defamation law, strictly with reference to the matter in hand, add very little in terms of helpful advice. If the Trust does NOT now pursue a Civil action, its credibility and its money (if indeed there ever was a true 'deficit') will be gone for ever, and I doubt very much if Mr Gallacher would need more vindication than that!

They have, however, pinned this 'civil action' to their mast, boasted of 100% confidence in retrieving the 'lost' moneys, and simultaneously accused Mr Gallacher of theft.

Furthermore, summary justice does not have the power to convict!
mortonjag 2010-02-01 10:52:51
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 1 2010, 10:48 AM) [snapback]705897[/snapback]
I made a point of blowing my nose while driving up the M74 on Saturday. Then I had a swig of Diet Coke and a small Kit Kat. Can I have a cell with a balcony and sea view please?

I assume that as you aren't allowed to do anything that involves taking you hand off the steering wheel nowadays, it's now illegal to smoke while driving (and about time too with that one!), and cars with manual gearboxes are also no longer permitted. the law an ass? Hee haw, hee haw.

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Furthermore if you drop that lighted fag on your testycools you must gaze straight ahead with both hands firmly planted on the wheel and say goodbye to parenthood!
mortonjag 2010-02-01 11:17:23
QUOTE(Spencey @ Feb 1 2010, 11:10 AM) [snapback]705909[/snapback]
The purpose of my post was to clear up any confusion anyone might have, not to offer any particular person any advice. If MJ says he is not confused then well and good.

It's just that when I see folks making statements about the law which I perceive as misleading, I get these Victor Meldrew moments.

Oops here goes another one.

"Furthermore, summary justice does not have the power to convict!"

Not really following that. In the criminal summary justice system-JP Court and Sheriff's summary criminal court - it clearly does have the power. In a civil case, clearly not, since by its very nature a civil case seeks a civil remedy rather than a criminal conviction (with the odd hybrid exception, such as breach of interdict)

Anyway rather than wind anyone up, I'll make more profitable use of my day off and go back to my cup of tea.

Put an anti -pedantry pill in while you're at it ya rogue! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-01 11:21:59
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 1 2010, 10:40 AM) [snapback]705891[/snapback]
Is it true that one of the payments available from the Benefits System is a £20 a week allowance to pay for a pet? I was told yesterday that that was the case but I find it very hard to believe that that is actually true.

I've just checked the website and can't see anything. The Monkey is in the huff.
mortonjag 2010-02-01 11:30:16
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 1 2010, 11:24 AM) [snapback]705917[/snapback]
Innocence is hard to define. We all know of cases where people are as guilty as sin but get off for any number of reasons e.g. very few IRA men were successfully convicted on a conventional basis because people were too frightened to testify. Thats an extreme example but if a person is not convicted by a court, it does not mean necessarily they are innocent. There are far more guilty people get off than innocents are convicted.

I must emphasise that I have no idea of the rights and wrongs of this case and any comments made must be taken in that context.

Who or what is HMS? I assume it is the initials of the person who was accused of dipping the till in which case, don't name him on here. You are, of course correct that anyone is entitled to fairness when such an accusation is made but, it is a serious accusation and it needs to be cleared up one way or another, for everyone's sake and especially for the future of our aspirations to have football academy.

Nail on head!
mortonjag 2010-02-01 12:01:12
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 1 2010, 11:46 AM) [snapback]705932[/snapback]
In my opinion, a messageboard is not the place to perform a kangaroo court although the “apparent†loss of £1,600 does constitute the need for a review of events and accountability.

I don’t know any of the characters involved in this sorry affair. From the outside it looks as if a number of long-standing friendships and reputations are being driven into the ground. I do find it mystifying that as an example, grown men can get upset because someone decides to phone or obtain the phone numbers of ex-players when organising such an event. It makes you think that the event is sometimes more about who is the bestest Morton fan in all of the world and who will get acknowledged as doing the most for the club. Sometimes you see the same sentiment when reading about the “opposing†supporters groups/ factions. In my opinion, you all do a great job and I truly admire the time and devotion that a number of people make towards the club bouncy.gif . I have no idea where you get the spare time or effort to give so willingly. However, there is no I in Morton…blah, blah, blah wink.gif !

Back on topic. I know of a similar case stretching back 30 odd years ago. There was a chap in charge of a local supporter’s club who was “accused†of diverting funds so that he could take his family on an exotic holiday. No police action was taken but the guy’s reputation was shot and ASFAIK to this day the guy is still black-balled by a large number of his ex-friends.

The point being, these accusations are potentially life-changing and some should really think twice before making accusations and counter-accusations. I am all for a bit of light-heated banter on a public messageboard. I know people bleat on about wanting to know the truth but this is certainly not the platform for it to be conducted upon.

Going against the trend [b]I think it would be best to pull all threads relating to this “serious†matter and allow those directly involved to fathom out a strategy on how best to resolve the alleged dispute. The parties involved are going to have think carefully about their next steps and the impact it could have…[/b]

“One can survive everything nowadays, except death, and live down anything, except a good reputation.†Oscar Wilde

laugh.gif It's the heavy stuff that's worrying!

That is what should have happened from day one HT.

So far as I can see only one of the two parties has courted publicity, though it has never been established exactly who ran to the Tilly.

If I could convince myself even in small measure that either party now feels prepared to face the other across a table of mediation, I'd happily see conjecture and debate stop.

I can't.
mortonjag 2010-02-01 14:51:51
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Feb 1 2010, 01:16 PM) [snapback]705972[/snapback]
Will do, although the ad for the car did say that it was taxed until the end of November. My girlfriend has to go to Helensburgh to pick it up tomorrow so the tax disk better be kept on it otherwise that's another in a long list of problems we've got to deal with sad.gif

You simply tell the insurer the specific time from which you want cover to commence. That is standard as far as I'm aware.
mortonjag 2010-02-02 07:49:27
QUOTE(Grady @ Feb 2 2010, 01:06 AM) [snapback]706473[/snapback]
laugh.gif Incidently, no, I'm not a Trust board member MJ. I plan to be at some point though if they allow me.

With regards to reporting their concern to the police, to refusing to answer certain questions in the meantime, and to refusing to give up without a definite conclusion, I do defend the Trust so far though. You may think two of those involved appear arrogant, dismissive and running scared but, despite whether the suspected party turns out to be innocent or not, I think that they're definitely going about it in the right way. They have a legal responsibility to care for the Trust funds, so fair play.

What I don't defend is making public accusations against specific people and people fabricating their own versions of events.

I think we can be sure that this is not the end of it, and that the truth must be established at some point, but we really should now leave it as is without bringing it further attention and posting (more) possibly damaging content.



We HAD for a solid twelve hours until you saw the need to put in another tuppenceworth. Oh well, you know the Jag - here goes.

The Trust has said that the evidence which makes them 100% confident of retrieving the alleged missing cash is available NOW

A summons can be issued in a matter of days.

I'm assuming that will be the case, at which point I'll be expecting the Trust to update us all on this massage board.
mortonjag 2010-02-02 09:39:38
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Feb 2 2010, 08:41 AM) [snapback]706506[/snapback]
Yes because thats the way the world works. You go and take legal action and then run to update a football message board. dry.gif

It's the Trust we're talking about Ballboy - not 'the world' - and the Trust announced ON THIS MASSAGE BOARD that they intend to pursue on the strength of apparently cast iron evidence. I'm assuming that they want the members' 'missing' money back a.s.a.p., and that the summons will be issued within the next few days - and it would be GOOD for the Trust to keep us updated on that, especially as they promised they would.
mortonjag 2010-02-02 09:54:54
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Feb 1 2010, 04:37 PM) [snapback]706096[/snapback]
speak up you old fud ph34r.gif

Who are you calling an old fud, ya wee plamph? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-02 09:57:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 2 2010, 09:35 AM) [snapback]706522[/snapback]
Well, if there are a few quid stashed in Loch Thom, am I barking up the wrong tree ?

Apparently the evidence is plane for all to see!
mortonjag 2010-02-02 09:59:56
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Feb 2 2010, 09:49 AM) [snapback]706535[/snapback]
Due to the fact that we live on an island, there is a small amount of genuine asylum seekers coming here, most so called asylum seekers are just economic migrants hiding behind the tag of asylum seeker. A true asylum seeker would seek the nearest safe haven, not travel half way round the world to take advantage of our social generosity. Stop them at the border and send them back to the nearest safe haven to their homeland.

I think you're confusing a refugee with an asylum seeker, though I agree in principle.
mortonjag 2010-02-02 10:02:03
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Feb 2 2010, 09:59 AM) [snapback]706542[/snapback]
No they didn't. They posted an article on their web site that they were considering further action.

That is incorrect.
mortonjag 2010-02-02 10:05:53
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Feb 2 2010, 10:03 AM) [snapback]706548[/snapback]
Well, as far as was aware, the first I read about it was on there own website on Saturday.

Nobody is perfect!
mortonjag 2010-02-02 10:07:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 2 2010, 10:00 AM) [snapback]706544[/snapback]
I understood that the evidence is all at sea.

Will it still be possible to trawl through it?
mortonjag 2010-02-02 10:08:23
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 2 2010, 09:41 AM) [snapback]706527[/snapback]

I think the Pope's a daft old closet POUFFE.
mortonjag 2010-02-02 10:09:25
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Feb 2 2010, 10:08 AM) [snapback]706551[/snapback]
Can you clarify at which point it was announce on this board?

I can, and you can go and find out for yourself! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-02 10:13:52
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Feb 2 2010, 10:12 AM) [snapback]706556[/snapback]
You wouldn't be avoiding giving me an answer would you? That's not like you in the slightest.

Not at all. I am merely indicating that you made a mistake, and suggesting that you rectify it.
mortonjag 2010-02-02 10:28:14
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Feb 2 2010, 10:17 AM) [snapback]706558[/snapback]
In my humble opinion I did not make a mistake. I stated where I got my information for first hand and you haven't, other than stating that it was on the board and I aint got time to trawel through threads that your posting on!

Here's what you said. You'll only have to TRAWEL back a few posts to check!

No they didn't. They posted an article on their web site that they were considering further action.

Now you can either accept that they DID, and admit your error, or you may TRAWEL back before doing the same.
mortonjag 2010-02-02 10:39:40
QUOTE(Flyerton @ Feb 2 2010, 10:34 AM) [snapback]706561[/snapback]
There goes your knighthood.

I'm not really worried about that, and I'm actually semi-serious about this.

I just cannot believe that the enlightened Catholic Church have chosen as their head (or was it God who did it) a man whose ideas on homosexuality equate to Hitler's on Jews.

I reckon the old Papa is hiding something! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-02 11:06:38
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 2 2010, 10:54 AM) [snapback]706572[/snapback]
Best fishing attempt in some time. laugh.gif

No holy smoke without fire Mr Bam. I reckon the old Pontiff's a jobby jabber.
mortonjag 2010-02-02 11:12:48
QUOTE(Flyerton @ Feb 2 2010, 11:07 AM) [snapback]706576[/snapback]
I take it your non Catholic then?

What the hell is non Catholic meant to mean? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-02 11:33:25
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 2 2010, 11:31 AM) [snapback]706583[/snapback]
He might be a deluded old duffer, but I think we should all make him feel welcome. Why doesn't Jim Murphy, untermensch extraordinaire, arrange for him to attend a game at Ibrox? Full hospitality, and he could even lead the home support in a rousing chorus of the sash. That's what I call demonstrating a commitment to equality and diversity.

He'll be very unwelcome if he's a POUFFE.
mortonjag 2010-02-02 11:57:38
QUOTE(Bawhirley Road @ Feb 2 2010, 11:52 AM) [snapback]706589[/snapback]
When the last Pope was visiting Glasgow he had a day off the following day and he came down to Greenock.

Kenny Wilson told me this so it must be true.

He was coming down to visit the oldest shipyard in the world.

He got off the train at Cartsdyke - he was just himself - and walked doon McDougall St - he wid have went in the Lodge for a wee swally but it was shut.

Anyway, he soon found oot that the shipyard was away - finished - shut doon.

He was at a loose end - so he went for a wee walk over at the Victoria Harbour - he was just kicking stanes.

Well he wisnae looking where he wis going - and he went and fell in the water.

There were 3 boys dain a bit of fishing and after aboot 10 minutes they managed to get a haud of his cassock and pulled him oot.

they took him into the Marine Bar to dry off in front of the fire.

the pope after a wee while says to the first yin

A wanna thank you very much you savva ma life (italian/polish accent) - let me shakka your haun.

The boy doesn't have a hand

Wassa matta wi your haun?

A've no got wan

gie us yer erm

And he gets the boy's arm and sticks it in his cassock

'holy, holy, holy - holy, holy, holy'

Oot comes his erm wi a haun attached.
The pope says to the second boy

You savva ma life - wassa your name?

m mm mm mm my n nn name is w wi wi willie

wassa matta wi yer mooth?

a aa a ve goat a a aa ss ss stutter

gies yer heid

and he gets the boys heid and sticks it in his cassock

'holy, holy holy - holy'holy holy'

oot comes the boy's heid and he can talk fine
He says to the third boy

you savva ma life - let me shakka your haun

the boy backs off

let me shakka your haun

the boy still backs off

let me shakka yer haun you savva ma life

the boy's erse is nearly getting burnt by the fire noo

don't come any closer he says

how no?
Cos I'm on invalidity!

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mortonjag 2010-02-02 11:59:44
QUOTE(Lost in Space @ Feb 2 2010, 11:57 AM) [snapback]706591[/snapback]
""get in there holy father.... being gay is wrong... and mods.. if you have any problems with my post saying being gay is wrong, then youre being religously descriminating, as these are MY RELIGOUS BELEIFS... holy father youre right.. ban the gays and protest at this un natural pastime""
Aw Yes, here we go! This clown's back again.

Look, here's some natural law for you. God Does Not Exist!

That put's your religious views into perspective now. If there is no God, the premise for your views and those of people with similar to you completely dissapears. From the head of your church to the blinded, brainwashed and sheeplike followers like you.

Were you referring to Cowshed Closet C*ck Crimper?
mortonjag 2010-02-02 13:04:10
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Feb 2 2010, 12:58 PM) [snapback]706615[/snapback]
sorry did i upset you in some way ? whay are you attacking me for my religous beliefs.. mods is this allowed ??

Warrior, what is the name of your religion?
mortonjag 2010-02-02 13:35:25
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Feb 2 2010, 01:32 PM) [snapback]706636[/snapback]
doc, I'm a catholic, but I dont pretend to be a good one, but, that shouldnt need to be a reason to be allowed to voice my opinion on gay's, but it is a valid reaosn for the mods to allow my veiws to be aired without the old homophobia brigade shouting for deletion of the thread.

Fair enough. I know a lot of 'good' Catholics who are POUFFES.
mortonjag 2010-02-02 13:41:39
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Feb 2 2010, 01:38 PM) [snapback]706642[/snapback]
pugsy.. ... nah.. youre not worth the effort

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Warrior, I respect your right to your view that homosexuality is not approved of by the orthodox Catholic Church.

The same Church also preaches love of fellow man and tolerance.

I don't think your attitude to 'gays' is either loving or tolerant, and I certainly don't see them as 'ill'.
mortonjag 2010-02-02 13:46:04
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Feb 2 2010, 01:41 PM) [snapback]706644[/snapback]
If CW is as religious as he says, then he must acknowledge that some interpretations of the bible have Jesus as a rampant homosexual. When he was in the desert and said to the devil "Get thee behind me Satan" it was more than just another allegorical metaphwoar!

Here endeth the lesson.... ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif laugh.gif

I think that's a bit naughty, though he did run around with twelve young men, and there's no Biblical record of him having shagged any women. Moreover Judas's carry oot planted a big smooch on his beardy kisser.
mortonjag 2010-02-02 13:54:02 << John 13:34 >>


King James Bible
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another
mortonjag 2010-02-02 14:14:15
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 2 2010, 02:12 PM) [snapback]706677[/snapback]
Last time you ride me like your Frankie Dettori , closet !!!!!!!!!!! mad.gif mad.gif wub.gif

Warrior's the Italian Stallion! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-02 15:46:15
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Feb 2 2010, 03:41 PM) [snapback]706724[/snapback]
That's because they aren't actually tolerant.

The Pope is, actually, a pretty disgusting individual.

At last - the voice of experience!
mortonjag 2010-02-02 15:48:21
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 2 2010, 03:46 PM) [snapback]706731[/snapback]
Ach well Alibi, at least your attitude to gay fellas is shared by the Pope. smile.gif

The Pope's been banging this? [attachment=6437:AlexSalmond.jpg]
mortonjag 2010-02-02 15:56:22
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 2 2010, 03:55 PM) [snapback]706740[/snapback]
God forbid. blink.gif

Apparently he has!
mortonjag 2010-02-02 15:57:34
QUOTE(Flyerton @ Feb 2 2010, 03:54 PM) [snapback]706739[/snapback]
How can people get away with Pope bashing on here but if they spoke about some Muslim prophet the same way they would be deemed racist?

Mods?

That's a fair point. Tell me the name of a Muslim prophet who's a POUFFE basher and we can bash him too!
mortonjag 2010-02-02 16:02:27
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 2 2010, 04:00 PM) [snapback]706748[/snapback]
I think a more petinent question is, why would a Muslim cleric spouting similar intolerances at the British public be vilified by the press and public to a greater extent than his Christian equivalent? rolleyes.gif

Let me guess - because he came from a different country?
mortonjag 2010-02-02 16:05:09
QUOTE(Flyerton @ Feb 2 2010, 04:02 PM) [snapback]706752[/snapback]
Never mind Muslim prophets, take a look at this list. There are many people who agree with the Pope on this and who are also pro gay and lesbian rights.

I see the Niger folk are quite forward looking.
mortonjag 2010-02-02 16:10:33
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 2 2010, 04:07 PM) [snapback]706757[/snapback]
Ah but I had not argued about the church's position. I would not defend it, I believe the church is in error.
I picked you up on the subject of the laity rather than the church's position which I feel does not correspond to the dictum of Jesus.

You had mentioned that many of the laity had strong opinions against homosexuality. I don't disagree with that, I simply pointed out that their views were not exclusive to Roman Catholics.

And missionary zeal!
mortonjag 2010-02-02 16:40:03
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Feb 2 2010, 04:37 PM) [snapback]706778[/snapback]
Good to see Narnia boy back on form.
It is.

Really - I thought the thread is supposed to be about the Pope's attitude to POUFFERY! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-02 16:41:43
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 2 2010, 04:33 PM) [snapback]706773[/snapback]
Where is it?

Definitely not in E.K., Peter! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-02 17:04:00
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Feb 2 2010, 04:59 PM) [snapback]706790[/snapback]
Most people are aware that the current pope is unhappy with the liberal wing (if that's not an oxymoron) of the catholic church, and the influence that he perceives it has lost. That he disapproves of consensual sex should not come as a surprise, given that he heads up an organisation that still has celibacy in the job description for many of its jobs.

Really!

Why's he POUFFE bashing then?
mortonjag 2010-02-02 23:01:40 Andy I cannot reply to your pm as your in box is full!
mortonjag 2010-02-02 23:12:55
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 2 2010, 11:06 PM) [snapback]706982[/snapback]
My inbox is full as well.

Is the Guvnor spamming everyone ??

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laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-02 23:17:10
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 2 2010, 07:51 PM) [snapback]706887[/snapback]
The Pope speaks for all Christianity now does he ? Superb, I must have blinked and missed that.
Christianity does not equal Roman Catholicism. The two can be mutually exclusive.

But I digress. The previous poster is correct. The mods on here have lost the plot completely when it comes to fairly and equitably managing religious debate on the board.

And we still have the cheek to laugh when others describe us as **** without the bus fare.

If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck and quacks ......

TonInDublin

It may be hiding a bucket of money?
mortonjag 2010-02-02 23:19:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 2 2010, 10:58 PM) [snapback]706977[/snapback]
I thought he was impersonating a turnip.

Or a brick ?

Perhaps The Guvnor could clarify his performance ?

Or tell us when the Trust is issuing the summons! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-02 23:22:08
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 2 2010, 05:27 PM) [snapback]706808[/snapback]
I don't think you should...

OK then Spurtle I won't. Bye for now....TAXI for Mortonjag! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-02 23:25:53
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Feb 2 2010, 11:23 PM) [snapback]706995[/snapback]
Zip it Skippy. Any more of yer cheeky patter and the only thing you will be managing to do is play Two little boys on the stylaphone with yer mouth.


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How was today's fishing Guv. I reckon you've done an excellent job and all the weans can now have a little fishee.

Time to hang of yer net sonny boy! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-02 23:27:34
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 2 2010, 11:26 PM) [snapback]706998[/snapback]
Really? I'm sure there's lots of us about. 'Look so that you might see and listen so that you might hear'.

Eh? Who said that? laugh.gif

GOD
mortonjag 2010-02-02 23:37:11
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Feb 2 2010, 11:28 PM) [snapback]707002[/snapback]
Maybees aye Maybees naw! rolleyes.gif

Mortonjag sez AYE! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-02 23:38:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 2 2010, 11:32 PM) [snapback]707004[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I could do that over 40 years ago.

Perhaps you mean xylophone ?

huh.gif huh.gif

From the Greek, Newt - hitting little wooden slats to produce music.
mortonjag 2010-02-02 23:41:22
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 2 2010, 11:34 PM) [snapback]707008[/snapback]
No wonder I never heard it.

God works in a mysterious way his wonders to perform Mr Edwards. God backwards reads DOG, and Rae backwards reads EAR.
mortonjag 2010-02-02 23:43:31
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Feb 2 2010, 11:31 PM) [snapback]707003[/snapback]
They got any good strikers going cheap? laugh.gif

I can sell you a budgie going cheep.
mortonjag 2010-02-02 23:45:20
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 2 2010, 11:43 PM) [snapback]707023[/snapback]
Serious question:

What position does/did the said individual hold within the GMST?

Manipulator in Chief I understand! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-02 23:47:04
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 2 2010, 11:43 PM) [snapback]707020[/snapback]
Ok, Ghandi laugh.gif

Well spotted Spurtle. Do you understand the significance?
mortonjag 2010-02-02 23:48:30
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 2 2010, 11:46 PM) [snapback]707028[/snapback]
I'll repeat once again:
What position does/did the said individual hold within the GMST?

I'll repeat.

Manipulator in chief, I understand! mad.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-02 23:50:01
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Feb 2 2010, 11:48 PM) [snapback]707035[/snapback]
Who put the ball in the celtic net ? Doo Da Doo Da.

WHO SCORED AN OWN GOAL?
mortonjag 2010-02-02 23:54:42
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Feb 2 2010, 11:53 PM) [snapback]707038[/snapback]
I think he is the Production coordinator.

Of a non productive organisation.

QUELLE SURPRISE! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-02 23:56:26
QUOTE(dmc @ Feb 2 2010, 11:53 PM) [snapback]707039[/snapback]
It was a funny as f@ck sitcom though!!! laugh.gif

Does he watch that sort of thing? I thought he was more a Plato chappie.
mortonjag 2010-02-03 00:20:45
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 2 2010, 11:43 PM) [snapback]707023[/snapback]
Serious question:

What position does/did the said individual hold within the GMST?

Listen to me sonny boy, or should I call you Saul of Tarsus?

Don't f*ck me about - I've had more than my fill from club insiders and Trusties and I'm tired.

Your question appeared to refer to the title of the thread.

My answers pertained to that, and stand.

AND SONNY BOY, my son is now worth about 3 million in 'disposable' cash AND 10 million in investments, and funding a defamation suit would be to him like you buying yer cairy oot.

Aw rite sonny boy? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-03 00:30:12
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 3 2010, 12:11 AM) [snapback]707060[/snapback]
You're another ****.

You look to Uncle Fritzljag like the disaffected Pakistani looks towards Osama and thinks, "Gee, I wanna be just like you!"

Once again, you are mildly amusing, but you are a **** nontheless.

And Uncle Fritzljag looks to you and thinks, "Gee, if only that boy understood where Jaggy's coming from, we could sure shake up the establishment"! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-03 00:34:55
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 3 2010, 12:29 AM) [snapback]707069[/snapback]
huh.gif mellow.gif unsure.gif

Okay, so lets see...

You dribble when you piddle,
'cos your middle is a riddle.

!?!
Tell him to buy his old da' a fitba' club and gie us all peace then.

And if JuniorFritzlJag's £3million is "disposable", i'll not complain if he uses my wheelie bin to dispose of it. In fact, it will be my pleasure.

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Paul, it is all absolutely true. Unfortunately the wee bampot has no interest in football. He bought himself a Porsche at the weekend - as a second car. Four years old and the last of the air cooled models -just because it looks beautiful.

Need I go on. The old toothrotter is a big fish in a very small pond, and the trust is f*cked because of a similar ego to his.

Happy days doon the watter.
mortonjag 2010-02-03 00:39:13
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 3 2010, 12:35 AM) [snapback]707072[/snapback]
No, it reminds me of the documentary of the Washington Sniper. The middle-aged black guy gets his young simpleton son to shoot people at random, because the old man is bitter and twisted and the son worships him.

Steer clear of guns, you two.

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You are the sniper. Mortonjag works for MI5! blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-03 00:44:10 Those who are only bright enough to be a danger to themselves can still fool the vast majority.
mortonjag 2010-02-03 00:45:51
QUOTE(rafa the spic @ Feb 3 2010, 12:22 AM) [snapback]707068[/snapback]
Just in case you wanna see how its done

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/default.stm

Were going Hampden

F*ck off ya jakey plamph.
mortonjag 2010-02-03 00:52:11
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 3 2010, 12:43 AM) [snapback]707076[/snapback]
Good luck to the boy. smile.gif

Seriously, if someone acquires wealth fair and square (and not via illicit or illegal means) then fair play to him.
I dont disagree, but i was making a valid point but you couldn't help hijack it with your usual "look at me" bollocks. If the gentleman whio is at the centre of all these accusations isn't a Trust board member, then why was he given so much responsibility over such a large sum of money?

Also, the person who sanctioned this, will he be accepting responsibility ofr the loss of monies and resigning from his position within the Trust?

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Mortonjag's 'look at me bollocks' are summarised in Mortonjag's signature Paul!

And I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY with your sentiments. So far as I can see (and I only judge matters on what's been posted here), JIM GALLACHER'S been hung out to dry.

So far as I can see he's been vindicated by the polis, but is still being pursued by Mr Superpolis.

So far as I can predict, Mr. Superpolis will end up looking a very sheepish little boy!
mortonjag 2010-02-03 00:56:18
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 3 2010, 12:53 AM) [snapback]707084[/snapback]
Not very many, to be fair.

However, most banks (at least larger ones) have safe deposit boxes where staff can bank night takings etc.

However,

The logistics of so much money shouldn't have been left to a lay member of the trust, one of the appointed high-heed-yins should have done this, and this is a folly that none of them have held their hands up and accepted the blame.

What money are you talking about?
mortonjag 2010-02-03 00:58:55
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 3 2010, 12:56 AM) [snapback]707086[/snapback]
Better than leaving cash overnight in the PG Town Hall and for some time, in the boot of a taxi.

Surely not! Maybe a taxi was felt to be next best to a safe deposit box!
mortonjag 2010-02-03 01:08:57
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 3 2010, 12:59 AM) [snapback]707088[/snapback]
The money from the evening, from which some allegedly went missing.

Ah - now I understand, and from what I can glean from our pubic massage board, 'allegedly' is a well chosen word. Having said that, Mr Goodwin has openly accused Mr Gallacher of theft on this wee massage board which (check the rules) is subject to UK defamation laws, and the polis said 'no case to answer' but Mr Goodwin says he knows better, and the TRUSHT has done the time honoured 'we no speak English' body swerve, and makes threats about Civil action- like Mickey Mouse really f*cked Minnie and produced Douglas Rae!

Sorry folks - I think Mortonjag has been self injecting plus fort!
mortonjag 2010-02-03 01:17:24
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 3 2010, 12:50 AM) [snapback]707081[/snapback]
... and themselves ?

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mortonjag 2010-02-03 01:19:40
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 3 2010, 12:52 AM) [snapback]707083[/snapback]
The Guvnor claims to be an agent of MI6.

I trust that he is only an agent of those who want to muddy the water.

His master baiting days are gone. One cannot master bait without baws.
mortonjag 2010-02-03 01:21:15
QUOTE(rafa the spic @ Feb 3 2010, 01:08 AM) [snapback]707091[/snapback]
Ahhh didums blush.gif

I told you to F*ck off, ya brain damaged Feegie reject.
mortonjag 2010-02-03 01:37:50 I'm a bit drunk, so I apologise if what I'm about to ask seems crazy. I think some folk describe it as the 'fear' and I promise to check in the morning just in case I've made an arse of myself.

I was just thinking about all this stuff about the Stars of '79 night, and how Jim Gallacher ripped the Trust off and is now laughing up his sleeve on a yacht in the Bahamas. I never liked the wee c*nt anyway, and I recently spoke to an ex polis who obviously must know what he's talking about 'cos ex polis always do -let's face it folks, they're in the honesty business- and he said, 'You know sumpin' Doc, I don't like the wee c*nt either' -and I've kinda forgot what I was going to say. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-03 01:41:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 3 2010, 01:36 AM) [snapback]707100[/snapback]
Could be if it is in Loch Thom and the box is not water tight ?

Do you blokes still have paper notes ?

Of course we do Newt -don't be so patronising. A handful of fivers can work wonders for unsettled bills! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-03 01:43:57
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Feb 3 2010, 01:26 AM) [snapback]707097[/snapback]
Are you still talking baws at this time of night.

Mortonjag is drunk and may well be talking baws. That was a joke by the way, Do you think it was a Goodwin?
mortonjag 2010-02-03 01:46:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 3 2010, 01:43 AM) [snapback]707103[/snapback]
The heard the yacht was on Loch Thom.

S'yon delusion Newt.
mortonjag 2010-02-03 01:48:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 3 2010, 01:45 AM) [snapback]707105[/snapback]
naw - I was just asking.

Australia went to polymer notes years ago and now has an excellent export trade.

Polymer notes are very popular in the drug trade as they are waterproof.

Can you write your name on them like you used to? When I had my wee business many years ago I used to add up the days takings on a fiver.
mortonjag 2010-02-03 02:05:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 3 2010, 01:56 AM) [snapback]707108[/snapback]
Have a mug of coffee and think about duncan a biscuit in it.

S'yon ol' Scottish habit Newt -dippin' yer chocolate finger in espresso.
mortonjag 2010-02-03 02:11:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 3 2010, 01:58 AM) [snapback]707109[/snapback]
I would never again deface coinage or notes of the realm.

I learnt that lesson in 1963.

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In 1963 Mortonjag was -let Mortonjag think - yes a fresh faced 17 year old youth.

In them ol' days Greenock Morton was a proud name, supported by a united band of proud fans.

I TRUSHT you get my drift Newt.
mortonjag 2010-02-03 02:13:53
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Feb 3 2010, 02:08 AM) [snapback]707112[/snapback]
Another fix in the one week - this is very addictive! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Don't be a silly Billy, Dave -yer maister's lovin' the fact that the TRUSHT'S f*cked. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-03 02:16:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 3 2010, 02:07 AM) [snapback]707111[/snapback]
Don't excite the Guvnor.

I DO believe he's Douglas Rae. I hope i'm not responsible for a mishap. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-03 02:18:20
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 3 2010, 02:16 AM) [snapback]707116[/snapback]
Don't be daft MJ, get to your bed.

DDFR issnae happy - he was looking forward to the academy as a wee present for his 80th birthday.

90th!

Good night and Rae bless. blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-03 08:16:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 3 2010, 02:21 AM) [snapback]707120[/snapback]
My lesson had nothing to do with the Ton.

We were nabbed by Taggart's grandfather putting pennies on the railway line somewhere east of Kinghtswood.

They were not worried about our safety or the train drivers.

They claimed our wicked offence was defacing coins of the realm.

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Nostalgia indeed - we used to do that under the bridge at Kilmacolm station - with halfpennies -the old soft copper coins ended up as big as pennies, and we never got caught. Jim Mather's daddy (ask Spurtle if you don't know who he is) was the local 'Goodwin' and was too busy drinking tea in the big hooses to be bothered with little boys' ploys.
mortonjag 2010-02-03 08:21:51
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Feb 3 2010, 02:24 AM) [snapback]707122[/snapback]
Newt - it is now seven rolleyes.gif wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif



QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 3 2010, 08:14 AM) [snapback]707147[/snapback]
No that's me blink.gif

Aye and you're hung like a donkey too Kojie. When is Jaggy gettin' his wee sook? wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-03 08:29:06
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 2 2010, 09:24 PM) [snapback]706925[/snapback]
I seem to remember we had access to the development status as a priviso we up our set up , I believe we got an SFA grant of around 5grand but we failed or should say the club failed to reach the required standard.

So what has changed and what is the criteria we have to meet ? How much will it cost ? where will that money come from given that the 79 night was a financial ....er lets not go there.
for
No harm to Stuart Duncan but for fooksake if it takes him to initiate this now can I just ask what our Chairman has done to investigate this possibility in the 10 years incharge.

You're in no danger Chrissiboi. The hissy fit's been had, They're back together in the incestuous bed of nettles. Nothing will be heard from the Trust for another six months or so unless somebody stands VERY heavily on their toes, and I understand Jim Gallacher's just a wee guy who skips about in a tutu and ballet slippers.
mortonjag 2010-02-03 08:35:24
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 3 2010, 07:15 AM) [snapback]707135[/snapback]
In what context ?

You obviously don't, then! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-03 08:56:32
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 3 2010, 08:52 AM) [snapback]707163[/snapback]
Quick update for the two people who are interested. The Hardy Boys album is having the artwork completed and will be available mid-March I reckon. More info.

We've just recorded the the second Spy Movie a-side 'Ash Wednesday' and this will be out in April. We've decided to give the first EP away for free. Because we're nice. The EP sold out ages ago and has been deleted but you can download all three tracks now from here.

Mortonjag wishes Peter and his hard wee boys every success and opines that if the TRUSSHT was as good at self promotion as Peter is, the world would be a better place.
mortonjag 2010-02-03 10:10:05
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 3 2010, 09:07 AM) [snapback]707165[/snapback]
You can apply it to various situations.... rolleyes.gif

I was applying it to Mortonjag - after all it is Mortonjag's signature! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-03 14:11:41
QUOTE(Andy M @ Feb 3 2010, 12:01 PM) [snapback]707199[/snapback]
Yes - it's full of junk - probably best left that way.

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mortonjag 2010-02-03 18:09:49
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Feb 3 2010, 05:06 PM) [snapback]707264[/snapback]
virtual high 5! biggrin.gif

Aye, if you say so son! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-03 18:14:29
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 3 2010, 06:02 PM) [snapback]707281[/snapback]
You forgot to mention insects..

Was that the plague of locusts?
mortonjag 2010-02-03 21:55:38
QUOTE(wanderton @ Feb 3 2010, 09:37 PM) [snapback]707370[/snapback]
Played hamilton this afternoon at new douglas park and won 4 1. Were losing at half time but scored 4 through simmonds,mcallister,masterton and a og.

That'll be Andrew - his big brother Willie used to play for Blackpool, ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-03 22:12:41
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 3 2010, 08:23 PM) [snapback]707335[/snapback]
really?

couldn't tell

HA MacPish - snapping at Jaggy's heels again - or was that code for OF COURSE I TRUST A DISORGANISATION WHICH THINKS IT'S ABOVE THE LAW?

Do you think the Summons will be coming out soon? unsure.gif

Do you think Jim Gallacher's a tea leaf? unsure.gif

Do you think Stuart Duncan is innumerate? unsure.gif

Do you think Mr Goodwin's another of Shoogly's undercover agents? unsure.gif

I reckon the TRUSSHT'S HEID BUMMERS ARE f*cked MacPish.

Do you think the new regime will do a better job? unsure.gif

mortonjag 2010-02-03 22:33:20
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 3 2010, 10:29 PM) [snapback]707392[/snapback]
on the sauce two nights in a row, eh?
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tsk, tsk.......

Don't be daft MacPish. rolleyes.gif

I RECKON THE TRUST'S HEID BUMMERS ARE F*CKED MacPish.

Do you think the new regime will be an honest one? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-03 22:35:09
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 3 2010, 10:13 PM) [snapback]707388[/snapback]
he's in the holesale trade, eh? rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2010-02-03 22:45:41
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Feb 3 2010, 08:25 PM) [snapback]707338[/snapback]
Wasnt talking to you

Never said ye were ya wee plamph. dry.gif

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 3 2010, 10:10 PM) [snapback]707385[/snapback]
**** he thinks he's Ghandi noo laugh.gif

Mouton was a little lamb
His woolly legs were bandy
He thought the moon was made of jam
And Douglas Rae was Ghandi

He soon could tell that Duncan smell
As foul as Sturgeon's f*nny
And always claimed that Judas was
Another name for Danny.
mortonjag 2010-02-03 22:49:22
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Feb 3 2010, 10:41 PM) [snapback]707402[/snapback]
I couldn't care less WHAT you think of the trust, the club, the chairman, the price of fish or who shot JR.

G'night, auld yin.

Good night MacPish, and sweet dreams. Mortonjag will be waiting for you in the morning.

Do you reckon the TRUSSHT heid bummers have a clear conscience MacPish? unsure.gif

NO rush mind! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-03 22:50:55
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Feb 3 2010, 10:41 PM) [snapback]707401[/snapback]
Is there any way of changing them or would I have to sign up for a new account?

Cheers.

PM Bryan - he's a wizard at manipulation! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-03 22:53:55 Can science unravel the mystery of the 'missing' TRUSSHT MUNNY or does that require an up ain erse super grass sleuth? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-03 23:09:19
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 3 2010, 10:46 PM) [snapback]707407[/snapback]
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I wonder how much discussion the Trust was involved in when a certain poster offered to finance promising young players from a far off land and that offer was

(a) Graciously recieved
(cool.gif after broken communications the thanks but no thanks
© same as B but a letter asking wheres our money ???

Mr Rae doesn't want the annoyance of anyone spoiling his hobby by questioning anything he does.

Mortonjag was informed first hand by a TRUSSHT very heid bummer a mere week or so back that said very heid bummer had had no knowledge of that matter Chrissiboi!

Mr Rae keeps himself to himself and the TRUSSHT does the same! ph34r.gif

MORTONJAG RECKONS THE TRUSSHT HEID BUMMERS ARE F*CKED Chrissiboi.

Do you think the new regime will look after its money carefully? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-03 23:11:17
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Feb 3 2010, 11:09 PM) [snapback]707424[/snapback]
It's St Mirren for me I'm afraid

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Have you been booted out already?

They don't waste much time eh! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-03 23:16:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 3 2010, 11:05 PM) [snapback]707419[/snapback]
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Do you get virga in Inverclyde ?

Virga is an observable streak or shaft of precipitation that falls from a cloud but evaporates before reaching the ground.

Like an errant fiver in the Mistral?
mortonjag 2010-02-03 23:19:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 3 2010, 11:10 PM) [snapback]707426[/snapback]
Good to see HMS Willow posting again.

I trust he got some sound advice.

Don't deviate please.

I RECKON THE TRUSSHT HEID BUMMERS ARE F*CKED NEWT.

Do you think the new regime will have integrity? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-03 23:36:16
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 3 2010, 11:26 PM) [snapback]707440[/snapback]
You're daft, MJ, you really are.

As far as I am aware the Trust has only had 2 major events in the last 8 months - the fans' day at Cappielow organised by Bryan and the Stars of 79.

Is that correct ?

Their possible civil action may render them more inactive than usual ? !

How often did the Trust board meet in 2009 ?

Twice ?

Thrice ?

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I thought it was a DEFINITE Newt.

I was chatting to my son today - the clever one, not the multi millionaire - whose specialty is miscarriages of justice. I told him the story of the 'missing' MUNNY.

He was EXTREMELY interested, though I'd only really popped up to check his tyre pressures.
mortonjag 2010-02-03 23:38:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 3 2010, 11:34 PM) [snapback]707445[/snapback]
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One of your better efforts, MJ.

He'll be changing his user name next.

St. Columbo?
mortonjag 2010-02-03 23:51:14
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 3 2010, 11:42 PM) [snapback]707450[/snapback]
Chairman Stuart Duncan said " The Supporters Trust has organised many succesful fundraising events over the years where a great deal of money has gone to Morton youth-such as the Champions party in Greenock Sports centre and last years fans game at Cappielow,which raised £5000.

We are extremely disappointed the Stars of 79 evening produced a deficit of £1600.

The Trust may pursue a civil action to recover money and items which are still due to them"
BTW, Saturday's article was on the Tele web site.

But now it has gone.

Did St.Columbo not say he was 100% certain there would be a civil action. Maybe the summons is wending its way chez Willy Man as we type.

Some folk seem to think it's funny! Is this the elusive Bayton?
mortonjag 2010-02-04 00:13:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 3 2010, 11:55 PM) [snapback]707453[/snapback]
Is it fair to suggest that any decision to proceed would need to be a board decision ?

Is that a fair suggestion ?

ABSOLUTELY NOT NEWT!

Nice Mr McColl stated categorically very recently that THERE ARE NO HEID BUMMERS AT THE TRUST. He went to inordinate lengths to emphasise the democratic nature of the disorganisation.

Apparently it's one member one vote.

Mortonjag suggests that when one man's reputation has apparently been jeopardised by another's apparent self obsession, democracy should certainly be in evidence. It is after all the MEMBERS money and even NON MEMBERS money which is alleged to have been stolen by Mr Gallacher.

Does the membership of the TRUSSHT endorse St. Columbo's crusade?

Does the membership of the TRUSSHT buy into Mr Duncan's facile interpretation of 'a deficit'.

Mortonjag is of the opinion that those two gentlemen have made complete clowns of themselves, compounding their mistake by the usual disappearing act.

Mortonjag genuinely asks if those gentlemen are fit persons to be entrusted with TRUSSHT business.

They now HAVE TO pursue legal action, or lose face completely. They won't win of course, but it will buy them time, The TRUSSHT is not famed for getting things done quickly.

Thereafter Mr Gallacher may decide whether or not to pursue a defamation action against the TRUSSHT.

Is that what the members of this democratic disorganisation want?
mortonjag 2010-02-04 00:33:31
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 4 2010, 12:17 AM) [snapback]707465[/snapback]
IIRC, the allegedly defamatory remarks were made by 2 individuals, not by the Trust.

And some of the remarks were quickly deleted by the mods.

[attachment=6446:defamation_a.jpg]

It is abundantly clear that St Columbo is wearing a TRUSSHT hat here in place of his old Detective Chief Inspector's bunnet! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(jan65ton @ Feb 4 2010, 12:25 AM) [snapback]707471[/snapback]
gost leave it just now pal x

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I always thought of Ghost as being a straight talking honest bloke who just wanted to know the truth.

Seems he's been acting all along for a 'pal'. dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-04 00:39:40
QUOTE(jan65ton @ Feb 4 2010, 12:35 AM) [snapback]707477[/snapback]
Had to have a laugh at some folk on here i was accused of bein bayton lol as if i dont need to hid behind another id sorry sad ppl here xx

What is your identity Madam, and what is the reason for your obsessive interest in this matter?
mortonjag 2010-02-04 00:45:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 4 2010, 12:30 AM) [snapback]707474[/snapback]
Is it not true that there is a shortfall of a small amount of cash but this is probably due to the haphazard way it was organised ?

Very true Newt - I mean there were almost three hundred folk there and the majority took a bucket. Now just say for the sake of argument that three hundred folk all made a wee mistake and somehow each 'lost' a fiver.

Good gracious M'Lord - indeed that does summate to £1500! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-04 00:56:30
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 4 2010, 12:40 AM) [snapback]707480[/snapback]
Erm excuse me Ernie, i am acting for myself, and myself alone. I asked one question from it all and i got an answer from Willowman, that was enough for me.

Dont come with crap like that, if i want to ask questions i will ask them like everyone else, i dont have others dangling along.

Surprised you came out with that tbh. dry.gif

Erm excuse ME Alan. Jan described you as 'pal'. If you are not one of her friends please accept my unreserved apology. I really do see you as an honest bloke. I also believe too many honest folk have had the wool pulled over their eyes and not by Mr Gallacher. That is how I perceive the matter from the safe distance of my home and totally detached from ALL parties concerned.



QUOTE(Deego @ Feb 4 2010, 12:48 AM) [snapback]707487[/snapback]
I hope that was a joke, mj.


It was no joke young Mr Deegan. Why should it be a joke. The anonymous Jan (*** I suspect) has made numerous inflammatory and potentially defamatory statements on this wee massage board. As you may have noted, even defamatory statements which have been deleted have not disappeared.

There are folks here who only want the truth and justice - folks with intelligence and contacts and financial wherewithall.

What price can be put on a man's good name young Sir! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-04 01:04:58
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 4 2010, 12:58 AM) [snapback]707491[/snapback]
yes and because he didnt keep a paper trail they couldnt prove it , doesnt mean he is innocent . I dont see why he is avoiding the question ?

Again .. If I was accused and had acted honestly and properly Id answer the expense questions and put this to bed

I must say his silence on the matter is confusing ?

Do you have an answer or would you prefer to submit another set of accounts and hopefully no one will notice the dodgy expenses or changed income figures this time ?

The police were not confused young man.

In any case, how come you are party to private accounts - is it because Mr Morrison saw fit to publish them here - private accounts which were passed to him I assume by the trustworthy St. Columbo, and of which he presumed to make a random dissection.

It seems to me that you are persuaded that Willy Man is a tea leaf. For that reason I am confused by your claim to be confused.
mortonjag 2010-02-04 01:11:17
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 4 2010, 12:59 AM) [snapback]707492[/snapback]
If you look back on old threads you will possibly find from certain quarters the same was said at members of the Trust.

I'm off to my scratcher to read a book, hope ye all sleep well.

Mon The Ton

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VERY inflammatory Ghostie - NEVER defamatory. Mortonjag understands very well the difference.

Will it perchance be the book of Numbers?

Or 'Wind in the Willows'?

Get yersel a good old book on Scottish law and look up defamation. The illiterates on here wouldn't understand.

That statement per se could NEVER be defamatory.

Sleep well - as all with a clear conscience should.
mortonjag 2010-02-04 01:14:23
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Feb 4 2010, 01:08 AM) [snapback]707497[/snapback]
Why does Danny's statement have TonInDublin's signature at the bottom?

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Why indeed - you may well ask, though I'm sure you're bright enough to work that out for yourself!!

Were you thinking St Columbo had battered across the sea and back in his wee coracle just for a Naughty Graph?.
mortonjag 2010-02-04 01:21:47
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 4 2010, 01:13 AM) [snapback]707499[/snapback]
Not confused just unable to do anything because under law they would have to tie any theft with paperwork which was strangley withheld/not kept??

I havent seen the accounts although I would love a look at them ..
if possible all versions of them

and come on .. WHO ?? with the slightest bit of common sense doesnt keep reciepts when dealing with a company/charitys money ???

I have taken my information from several people and I do think there is some guilt there only because he wont speak to defend himself , An innocent man would fight tooth and nail to clear his name .

Scotty, it's extremely dangerous to believe that other peoples minds work the same as ones own. You have repeatedly reported on this issue because you have intricate knowledge of the running of pubs and clubs. I'd equate that perhaps to my perception of your well intentioned attempts at first aid which saw a road accident victim die when I could perhaps have saved him because of superior skills and knowledge.

What I would say would be that it was a pity I had not been there instead of you. THAT HOWEVER WOULD NOT DIMINISH YOUR GALLANT AND WELL INTENTIONED EFFORTS!

Comprenez?
mortonjag 2010-02-04 01:26:31
QUOTE(jan65ton @ Feb 4 2010, 01:17 AM) [snapback]707502[/snapback]
how dare you disclose my name on here u do not have the right to do that

Just hold on ONE MINUTE. I disclosed nothing. I do not know who you are but I do know you appear to be deliberately casting shadows over a concluded police investigation. I GUESSED that your name might be ***. I didn't even know there WAS a bloody *** - though somebody once suggested *** was *** wife.

From what you've just posted though it appears that you have now identified yourself.
mortonjag 2010-02-04 01:36:28
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 4 2010, 01:29 AM) [snapback]707508[/snapback]
Its not superior knowledge , Its common sense .

If it all was one badly organised set of accounts then why the changes to income and expenses and why the silence , Why not just put your hands up and admit "I ****ed up , I made a mess" and explain the mistakes

for example it was reported the bar income was changed on accounts ? Surely there is a Z reading or someone took the reading at the end of the ngiht or at least counted the money and had a total , How can this change ??

Its better than the ****y "Shot across the bow" & "Tugboat not for sinking" comments

and the reason I have posted so often on here is yes
1 I have a good knowledge of event management
and
2 Im a Morton fan disgusted to see money being misappropriated

I tried my best to let you out. Keep digging son. Maybe when you're my age some young prat will appear to you exactly as you now appear to me. Young, relatively inexperienced, and a bit too full of yourself.

I seriously question your agenda. All you've really said all along is LOOK AT ME THE VASTLY EXPERIENCED CLUB MANAGER-LOOK-LOOK!

That's about your ego son and when the truth DOES emerge I believe it will be about another ego and certainly NOT Mr. Gallachers.

Try VERY hard to answer in a reasoned manner. I have already been called an idiot tonight, and in the context it was uncalled for and has been reported. I believe you are acquainted with the 'report' function! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-04 01:44:56
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 4 2010, 01:32 AM) [snapback]707509[/snapback]
no you did

Good evening young Sir. Well of course I knew Jan was your wife because you pm'd me and warned me to 'keep your family out of this'. Please tell me though - who the hell is this***
And now that you've finally had the baws to put your head over the parapet, why is this Jan person going to unbelievable lengths to nail a man who has been exonerated of blame.

You see Sean - folk actually believe that Mortonjag is some slevering old fool, but Mortonjag has spent his whole professional life observing signs and symptoms and attempting to reach accurate conclusions, and Mortonjag suggests this evening that the behaviour of this Jan person whom YOU have now confirmed to be your wife is such that Mortonjag regards it as more than passing interest - indeed Mortonjag ventures to suggest that this Jan person's behaviour seems almost protective, and Mortonjag wonders why that should be.
mortonjag 2010-02-04 01:57:27
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 4 2010, 01:43 AM) [snapback]707513[/snapback]
lol My Ego hahahahahaha
God you have the biggest ego on this board MJ lol

My agenda is getting answers , What could I possibly gain from all this ?

and as for the inexperienced part LMAO , I wouldnt say running multiple venues turning over in excess of £1.5 Million is inexperienced but hey I dont want you thinking Im on an ego trip Doc

and its not Mr Gallachers Ego that in question .. I ask again would an innocent man sit quiet whilst someone destroys his name ?


Jesus Wept - I'm now highly impressed - NOT! My wee video business (well five outlets to tell the truth) was turning over almost the same thirty years ago while I was working full time as a GP. I do, however, believe that it is VERY IMPORTANT TO YOU that folk should acknowledge your vast experience. Go for it son - if you've got it by all means flaunt it! wub.gif
QUOTE(jan65ton @ Feb 4 2010, 01:49 AM) [snapback]707518[/snapback]
lo so u wettin u pants now


What an intelligent comment. If my partner went onto a pubic massage board with stuff like that I'd be seeking a quickie divorce! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-04 02:03:10
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 3 2010, 11:56 PM) [snapback]707454[/snapback]
Every forum on this board is turning into nothing but a joke when it comes down to this 79's night. Is there any chance it can be kept to one thread in one forum rather than constantly spreading it about the whole ****ing site.

PROTECT THE INNOCENT! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-04 02:22:21
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 4 2010, 02:08 AM) [snapback]707527[/snapback]
Your not impressed .. Damm Im gutted . lol

you also questioned my agenda yet refuse to answer my question on what I have to gain from this situation ?
What possible agenda could I have ?

A position in the revamped TRUSSHT - something you have already suggested to Sean? smile.gif

Anyway young chappie, the Monkey has not had his nookie in days, and yon' dug needs oot for its last pish so I bid you good night, Rae bless, and don't let the buggers bugger you! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-04 12:12:09
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 4 2010, 11:05 AM) [snapback]707566[/snapback]
Undertsandably you may not want to comment and go into great detail for various reasons. But, the finger of suspicion has been pointed at you by various parties about the misappropriation of funds of a night you were directly involved in organising.

I can't understand why you can't issue a denial of any wrong doing on your part. Surely you can't incriminate yourself by saying "I'm innocent, I didn't take any funds at all" ?
If I was on the receiving end of allegations doubting my integrity that's the first thing I would be doing blink.gif

Maybe he thinks that the Polis and the Tilly already did JUST THAT, Spurtle! smile.gif

QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 4 2010, 11:43 AM) [snapback]707575[/snapback]
Something I was going to ask as well !

I'm assuming MJ copied a reply I made on the post and then took out the rest of the verbage.

Before any conspiracy theorists start, nearly everyone on this board knows me, and will be able to attest that I am not MJ !

Well, at least not for about twenty years anyway.

TonInDublin

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The offending statement was just crudely hacked out of a page of posts Tid.

I'm tempted to say 'Simples' but never do!

If you let me have your email address I have an excellent recipe for upside down cake! wink.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-04 12:21:17
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 4 2010, 10:20 AM) [snapback]707563[/snapback]
Ok, tell you what, if TiD agrees (and I'm pretty sure he will) then any discussion of the Stars of 79 soap opera is now banned on the Jesse forum. I'm not getting into any discussion on it - if I see any threads or posts on it from this point on then I'm deleting or closing them.

And before anyone moans, I think it'll make a pleasant escape from the 400 threads on the subject on the main boards. It's ****ing boring.

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That subject was FIRST mentioned on this thread by Ghostie!

Are folk getting to you too Boozy - if I really believed that I'd be bitterly disappointed and I sincerely mean that.
mortonjag 2010-02-04 12:25:14 Forza is sleeping peacefully in the cellar. I shall pass on my regards! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-04 13:39:03 That is all.
mortonjag 2010-02-04 13:41:28
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 4 2010, 01:40 PM) [snapback]707614[/snapback]
Been told he's a striker who spent a season with Killie, bagging 1 goal in 20 appearances.

Thank Savo for that info, I just bumped into the handsome devil in the Oak Mall at lunchtime.

How did he strike you? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-04 13:43:36
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 4 2010, 12:19 PM) [snapback]707587[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2010-02-04 13:46:32 Politicians and integrity?

Ms Short is merely making use of something she could not change.

Anything particularly commendable in pragmatism? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-04 13:48:40
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 4 2010, 01:43 PM) [snapback]707618[/snapback]
Savo? Quite a serious fella but with an underlying sharp wit that could charm the knickers from a feisty secretary.

Shall I submit my CV?
mortonjag 2010-02-04 13:51:12
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Feb 4 2010, 01:18 PM) [snapback]707607[/snapback]
You're certainly a "glass half full" sort, I hope your optimism turns out to well founded.

The question is, do these players fit Grady's stated requirement of being better than what we already have?

McKinlay - I can't remember seeing him play, though from Grady's description following extensive trial plus two bounce games, I'd imagine he's likely to be better than what we currently have at left back. If he can play left mid/wing then that's an added bonus.

Tidser - I saw his debut at Starks Park and liked the look of him. In physique, appearance and style he reminds me of Gareth Barry, though I'm not saying he's in that class. He looks pretty calm and assured, wants the ball and always tries to find a pass. The conditions and type of game probably weren't ideal for his debut, but I'm optimistic he'll prove better than what we have.

Simmonds - From club profiles etc. he seems to have made a promising start to his career then had to overcome an injury, a bit like Shimmin. Should offer something different up front with his pace, though his scoring record is far short of Wake, Graham or Russell, who also has good pace. I think he'll fit into Grady's style of football better than Brian Wake did. He'll need to drastically increase his scoring ratio to prove better than what we have.



I can just imagine the confusion for our Dumbo refs. Two black guys - Dom Simmonds and Dom Shimmin! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-04 13:52:36
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 4 2010, 01:41 PM) [snapback]707616[/snapback]
That is an acceptable post in here Doc and I thank you for your contribution.

Loves to you. wub.gif

I'm big into coprophilia darling! wub.gif
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mortonjag 2010-02-04 13:57:37
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 4 2010, 01:54 PM) [snapback]707624[/snapback]
If I had any idea what that was then I might be interested.

Jobby love!
mortonjag 2010-02-04 14:28:02
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 4 2010, 02:04 PM) [snapback]707632[/snapback]
That's not the way I read it. Lack of evidence doesn't constitute innocence.

I'm not saying Willowman is either guilty or innocent, infact I hope he's innocent. I'm just bewildered by the fact he chooses not to say so.

NOR DOES IT CONSTITUTE GUILT! mad.gif

QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 4 2010, 02:15 PM) [snapback]707639[/snapback]
So if money was taken from the night we should let it go quietly ?

The part I dont understand is the fact he offered to pay money back if the police were not involved and then he comes on here with his "Tugboat will not be sank" rubbish ..

The fact that he offered to pay money BACK? That happened BEFORE the police were involved. Good gracious, I'm ASTONISHED that the police didn't nail him on that!

No son, you're the one who is PRETENDING not to have an agenda here while openly boasting yet again of offering your services to the Trust. You're very transparent, and IMHO not very bright, and I suggest you follow Her Majesty's advice.

A derogatory response is welcomed by Mortonjag. Just try to make it sound intelligent! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-04 14:30:51
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Feb 4 2010, 02:19 PM) [snapback]707644[/snapback]
I'm in the same boat as Boozehound, would have loved the amp as my current one is rubbish. If I come into some money I may bid for the amp tongue.gif, if you're selling seperately.

Nae probs! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-04 14:46:31
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 4 2010, 02:34 PM) [snapback]707650[/snapback]
Sorry, i'm with Scott on this one, and you MJ are just an arrogant ****.

End of

I am genuinely disappointed in you, and in your behaviour Ghostie. I'm being serious here. If Willy Man said he'd make a statement, and after taking legal advice has remained silent, I fail to see why he should be pilloried. The Trust not only brazenly called Willy man a THIEF last Saturday, it also claimed it would pursue a Civil action. If the Trust has subsequently taken legal advice, that may too explain the Trust's silence, though they have 'previous'! A civil action could already have been started.

This thread will only die when folk stop posting their favourite version.

Mine? I just don't know. If the Trust do have a good case I'd have expected criminal proceedings to be re-opened. I believe that a civil action would be unsuccessful.
mortonjag 2010-02-04 14:57:45
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 4 2010, 02:52 PM) [snapback]707664[/snapback]
I couldnt care less what you think now Ernie, i have seriously had enough of the s*** that has been splattered on this board from you over the past couple of weeks along with your 2 other puppets.

As from my behaviour, what the hell are you on about.

To sum up the majority of stuff on this board from you and the other puppets, if it is not to your liking then its batten down the hatches and get stuck into others who are only asking a genuine question.
It's really rather quite pathetic tbh, but, i'm sure the same s***e will still be attached to the board for years to come.

Hell mend them

Prejudging the matter on the basis of information fed to you. If you have seen any evidence which adds anything to the debate, let's hear about it now. You are being childish, and as I said I'm disappointed in you.

...and please note that I am prejudging nothing. All I know is that the police cleared Willy Man, and that the Trust claim to be able to nail him, and I'm just waiting to hear news of the Summons being issued.
mortonjag 2010-02-04 15:07:01
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 4 2010, 03:04 PM) [snapback]707672[/snapback]
And what information would that be, would that be the same information that i'm picking up through all the threads about the subject on here like everyone else !

As for the 2nd part, that's about as much as i know also.
As for being childish, dont talk nonsense, you just dont like the fact that i'm getting at you, and it seems to be working.
Anyway, that's all from me on the matter.

I don't mind anybody attacking me in a reasoned and reasonable manner. When I make a point and am personally abused in return I always regard that as a point scored for Mortonjag.
mortonjag 2010-02-04 16:57:29
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 4 2010, 03:21 PM) [snapback]707677[/snapback]
Ok try this...

I've keep out the mud slinging on the public forum but the one thing I will say is that Mortonjag has done Jim no favours at all, in fact I believe he has done Jim's reputation more harm than good. I don't believe he is doing what he is doing because he feels some sort of wrong doing has taken place, I don't think he is all that bothered either way what really happened and the damage it has done to both reputations, the bottom line is he is just loving all this.
Mortonjag, if Stuart Duncan was being accused here, would you be so vociferous with your defense of him? I think we all know that wouldn't be the case don't we? so it is obvious to most on here that it's you that is orchestrating your own personal vendetta against Stuart Duncan and the Trust and this alleged missing money falls right into your lap.

You are using Jim and the situation he finds himself in.

Would you say that's a reasonable comment?

I 'd say that that's a wee bit of an exaggeration.

Does it matter a fig if I use Willy Man to further my agenda Kojie? I'm just another sad media wh*re like your good lolly sookin' self, and let's face it the Polis sure f*cked up big style. Was it you who ran to the Tilly on behalf of the TRUSSHT?

Jist askin' ye ken.

As for that wee c*nt Gallacher - I don't give a Monkey's cuss if he's strung up from the mast of his effin' tugboat - it means nothing to me. If he's as bad as the lynch mob think - fill yer effin' boots lads.

Is that OK with you Kojie? wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-04 18:11:16
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Feb 4 2010, 05:05 PM) [snapback]707702[/snapback]
Sadly I'm sure a lot of folk have come to the same conclusion as midTONs as your continual protestations of having no agenda are frankly laughable.

That is indeed VERY sad.

There are , however, perceptive people on our little massage board.
mortonjag 2010-02-04 18:14:20
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 4 2010, 05:58 PM) [snapback]707722[/snapback]
Not at all, cold reason can make eugenics seem a reasonable position.

You really are tryiing hard to be an internet badass and are just coming across as a sad and twisted wee bourgeois academical who is filled with delusions of adequacy.
See above. rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2010-02-04 18:31:47
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 4 2010, 01:41 PM) [snapback]707616[/snapback]
That is an acceptable post in here Doc and I thank you for your contribution.

Loves to you. wub.gif

Well Boozy, bearing in mind why the Jesse Boys forum was created, and with specific reference to the rules, Jaggy posted something like this earlier today on the main forum, and quelle surprise, it has disappeared.

A potential problem for our dumbo refs - two black guys, one Dom Simmonds, the other Dom Shimmin.

I really cannot for the life of me understand the problem. I certainly think the guys concerned would see the funny side. Every time I think the Mods are getting better, they get WORSE! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif

Oh and what sad wee c*nt reported the post I wonder?
mortonjag 2010-02-04 18:44:12
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 4 2010, 06:35 PM) [snapback]707730[/snapback]
Too exclusive for you Jaggy

Never mind, I'm sure we can all chip in to get him a poke of chips with her on Princes Street. It'll cost £250 mind.

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I'd happily shell out £5000 to avoid the instant emesis of seeing that pair stuff their faces -thanks! rip.gif rip.gif rip.gif rip.gif rip.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-04 18:49:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 4 2010, 06:42 PM) [snapback]707732[/snapback]
Come on, MJ, you do have an agenda with regard to the Stars of 79 Night.

Do you want to spell it out for those who are too blind to see ?

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Those who are too blind to see require Braille Newt, and I don't do Braille.

Seeing as you're eleven hours ahead, any advance warning of yon' Summons?
mortonjag 2010-02-04 19:00:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 4 2010, 06:57 PM) [snapback]707738[/snapback]
Is it being written in invisible ink ?

I would prefer the Trust to commit its limited funds to safer "investments".

Just my opinion, mind.

Being 11 hours ahead, I will be the first to congratulate Messrs Duncan, Goodwin & Co, if the action is successful.

Well they won't have a shortage of first hand witnesses! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-04 19:02:44
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 4 2010, 06:48 PM) [snapback]707734[/snapback]
E-mail Nicola your details and I'm sure she'll take the donation.

The only donation she's ever likely to get from me is intravenous.
mortonjag 2010-02-04 19:05:46
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 4 2010, 06:52 PM) [snapback]707736[/snapback]
Save verb rescue or preserve from harm

protect

avoid the waste or loss of

So, Mr Duncan, as you are hopefully moving on to the Youth Academy, I repeat my question, who can save the Trust, after you have gone ?

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I think wee Scotty boy might give it his best shot.
mortonjag 2010-02-04 19:08:27
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 4 2010, 07:04 PM) [snapback]707743[/snapback]
No Iain we all know he doesn't have an agenda with regards the Stars of '79 Night, he is just using that as his platform to further the agenda he has with Stuart Duncan and the Trust, and for those who are to blind to see it, I'll spell it out, he doesn't give a flying feck who's reputation he ruins as he continues his campaign and that includes Jim G's as well.

So good you said it twice Kojie. How is New York this weather BTW? Been picking any nice big apples for teacher Mr Duncan Sir? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-04 19:43:00
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 4 2010, 07:33 PM) [snapback]707755[/snapback]
Thanks for the further abuse...

Your the one that said my ego effected my role in what the trust does. I worked dam hard on the one event i'm in charge of to make it a success. I have been trying my dam hardest to make changes in the trust I even offered t to resign if changes don't happen, however they will be. I was to busy with other more important evetns in my life last year to force change through, but i will make sure it occurs this year or I wil leave.

For everyone sniping at us from the sidelines I include you, mj and newton, why don't you offer to help, request to join the trust board etc instead of just daming us all.

I also know how the trust works, and yes we can do better but we are all not as bad as you make out.

Mortonjag cannot answer for Barbie or Newt, Bryan.

As the 'heid bummers' may 'go under' as a result of this farce - further evidence that they 'could not organise a piss up in a brewery', Mortonjag may be happy to help reconstruct the Trust.

The evening concerned was, I'm told, an unqualified success. Mr Donnelly and Mr Gallacher seem to have done an excellent job of what they are clearly good at.

Why was the control of the finances not delegated to an experienced person?

Oh - and a wee tune dedicated to the 'heid bummers'!
Aw the nice!
mortonjag 2010-02-04 20:00:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 4 2010, 07:45 PM) [snapback]707759[/snapback]
Because you had to take a suite to London ?

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It WAS a serious question Newt. Is Bryan a rat deserting the sinking ship?

....or just a good egg who's finally prepared to put his cards on the table?

That the financial side of the event was an unmitigated shambles is not in dispute.

WHY WAS THAT ALLOWED TO HAPPEN?

Who was to blame?

Will he/they speak up as Bryan has?
mortonjag 2010-02-04 20:06:00
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 4 2010, 08:02 PM) [snapback]707768[/snapback]
ask any board member we need to change, i haven't ever hidden that.

What do you see as the likely outcome of the Small Claims action, and when will the summons be going out? The sooner the Trust recoups the money (if indeed any is missing) the better for all concerned surely.
mortonjag 2010-02-04 20:12:39
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 4 2010, 08:04 PM) [snapback]707770[/snapback]
The Bucket.

I see it has been brought up by some a few times so here is the true story behind it all:

The 'Bucket' relates to the raffle and program money raised on the night.

Now after money was taken from this by Jim to pay one of the speakers(Jim, Stuart and myself confirm), and money left was counted after this, the total written down and confirmed by Stuart, Jim and myself.

Total money in this bucket was confirmed and by my side as we cleaned up.

At 3-4am we left the town hall after cleaning up, taxi home, and bucket was in the boot.

Taxi dropped us off, but moved away before we opened the boot, quick call to taxi company and money was retreived, all monies counted and balance confirmed with that counted on the night infront of Stuart, Jim and myself.

The monies in the bucket are confirmed in accounts and at no stage has that ever been questioned.

If anyone has ever asked me I have told the same event that happened, the truth. All that can be confirmed.

Here is the story of the bucket, though I laughed in the morning after the event, if any or all of the money in that bucket had been found to be missing I would have paid it back myself as I was in charge of this money on the night.

There is nothing to hide from this story. Though Chinese whispers seems to have done it wonders...brilliant the power of gosssip.

HMM.
mortonjag 2010-02-04 20:14:36
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 4 2010, 07:01 PM) [snapback]707741[/snapback]
Spare me the Swiftian nonsense. Let's turn that example on its head and see what happens. Rational argument follows (try to keep up, run a finger under each word if you have to. Also, I will assume for the purpose of this discussion we are discussing the kind of eugenics associated with the Nazis):

Eugenics necessitates experimentation on humans
As the aim is the perfection of the race, subjects for experimentation cannot be chosen at random
Assuming that we need certain subjects to fill certain roles, it is almost certainly the case that those experimented upon will not universally consent to this (if any do so!)
Thus we must forcibly kidnap people for the purpose of forced experimentation
De facto they are stripped of their right to object

Objection:

The above runs counter to our medical ethics:
Experimentation on humans is generally bloody, covert, and without due regard for safety of the patient
The above runs counter to our societal ethics:
A person should not be used for experimentation against their will

Therefore we should not practice eugenics

But wait! My adherence to the rational argument above has been sullied by beautiful, beautiful doubt. I have decided, based on the scribblings of some bronze age doylums, that it is my duty to create the perfect man in a sky fairy's image. I doubt anything that reason has led me to in this regard. Therefore eugenics is not only fine but my divine mandate. All hail doubt and its wonderful powers of moderation!

(The above is what happens when you throw concepts like "doubt" into the discourse like crumbs to a pigeon. What would in fact serve us here is skepticism, which is something very, very different from doubt. But that's besides the point. Right now we're in a place where it is our duty to be eugenicists. Let's continue.)

Now, there are two ways out of this epistomological shitpile that you've build for us. Either we can doubt our doubt (which may then lead to us doubting our doubting our doubt, and so on into a vicious infinite regress of your stupidity); or we can treat our doubt the way we would anything else - by examining it with reason and observation. That is, with skepticism - not doubt. The two are very different.

They are different in that one is useful, while the other is a woolly, mean-nothing concept deployed by intellectual cowards (e.g. you.) "Doubt" is the faithful's get-out-of-jail-free card. "Doubt" is what permits you to sit at a table with civilised people and pretend for an hour that you don't think they're destined for eternal fire because their metaphysical choices differ slightly from yours. "Doubt" is what is deployed in the face of each new scientific advancement that renders God's dominion ever smaller. (What's his role now? With Creation and the cosmos largely explainable, I think that his role now extends to something like the first trillionth of a second of the Big Bang.) "Doubt" is the suit of tin armour you don to stumble into the sunlight, Ned Kelly-like, to protect you from the hundred guns of fearless inquiry. "Doubt" and "faith," in fact, are two sides of a stupid coin - the ultimate exercise in doublethink.

This is why "doubt" has been left to people for whom "faith" remains an absurd virtue, while the civilised world has moved on with skepticism. Try it sometime. It's a very useful concept. Skepticism and reason will slough away the disgusting, flaky mass of your medieval worldview, whereas "doubt" just reinforces it.

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mortonjag 2010-02-04 20:18:26
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 4 2010, 08:15 PM) [snapback]707780[/snapback]
haha, not what you wanted hear?

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Far from it Kojie - Mortonjag DOES want to hear the truth, and Mortonjag is certain that the Taxi company must be able to confirm those details exactly as Mr Donnelly has described them.
mortonjag 2010-02-04 20:21:11
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 4 2010, 08:20 PM) [snapback]707782[/snapback]
In all honesty why would the taxi company need to confirm anything?

Because Mr Gallacher had cited it as a witness in the forthcoming small claims action perhaps? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-04 20:23:25
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 4 2010, 08:22 PM) [snapback]707784[/snapback]
Phone them...Star Taxi's.

Do you need the number?

They where sponsors on the night also.

I already have the number - thank you very much.
mortonjag 2010-02-04 20:26:36
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 4 2010, 08:23 PM) [snapback]707786[/snapback]
Your welcome oh mod one.
I said all the ego's Bryan, please quote me correctly.
I was asked to contribute to the trust but declined due to being unable to commit. Having seen and heard what has went on the past few weeks I wouldn't trust any of them with my coppers jar (pun intended).
I doesn't matter how hard any individual works, the collective is dysfunctional as there are too many with private agendas against one another.

I hope you do get your wish and change the trust as by all accounts (I have yet to see or hear anyone having a dig at your involvement within the trust) you should be one of the only ones to remain an important part of its day to day running, but, it needs to be more transparent, it needs folk who trust one another, it needs folk who will call things out, publicly if required, if they even have an iota of hidden agendas. Not bicker, berate and argue almost to the pint of coming to blows.

I will go back to what some from within the trust have said privately over the past few weeks and it is clear to see the public solidarity is just a show as each one of several have stabbed one another in the back.
You tell me Bryan, can that situation continue?

“Not as bad as I make out� I beg to differ, much worse than I ever thought possible actually.

Now, I have no agenda against the trust, I still think it’s a great concept but it is now in desperate need of surgery as it is seen as damaged goods. I have spoken to dozens of ton fans over the past few weeks in person and to a man each have said they think the trust is damaged, most of them admitted they don't even know what the trust role actually is, I’m sorry but that is a small portion of public perception.

I’m sorry Bryan but it’s the trust members who have been firing allegations around since this broke, where the **** do you think all the details, lies, counter allegations, fibs, half truths, fables, excuses, )not to mention the sudden influx of pathetic aliases on this site) are coming from? Don’t shoot the messengers, aye by all means shoot down the methods they use but not the content. Most of us really do not know who to believe.
I posted what I posted today out of sheer frustration at yet another phone call with yet another angle.


Agree wholeheartedly, and some of us genuinely want to know the truth.
mortonjag 2010-02-04 20:32:10
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 4 2010, 08:24 PM) [snapback]707787[/snapback]
Come on now Ernie I thought you were trying to be serious with regard this matter. That type of response is typical of someone who is prepared to argue black is white to keep any smoke screen going that adds confusion and helps his cause.

I'd prefer that you don't patronise me.

I am being extremely serious - so serious in fact that within the past twenty four hours I've run such information as I've been able to tease out of the tangle of apparent lies and deceipt past a highly qualified lawyer.

mortonjag 2010-02-04 20:42:34
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 4 2010, 08:09 PM) [snapback]707776[/snapback]
79 is being dealt by others on the board, i wouldn't want to state a fact that maybe incorrect.

You appear to doubt that an action will be raised.
mortonjag 2010-02-04 20:44:16
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 4 2010, 08:42 PM) [snapback]707797[/snapback]
I agree , It should have been checked weekly and budgets set and agreed from the start . The tickets sales should have been budgeted to more than cover the cost of the event and there should have been pretty much clear profit from the bar/raffle etc on the night to go along with the remainder of the ticket money .

More than 1 person at fault but only one person cannot account for missing money

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ALLEGED missing money?
mortonjag 2010-02-04 20:49:19
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 4 2010, 08:44 PM) [snapback]707800[/snapback]
You've did it again, why not ask the other side for the information they have and put both sides to this highly qualified lawyer and save both sides a lot of money, then we might get to the back of this sorry state of affairs.

The information Mortonjag holds has come from many sources Kojie and Mortonjag would not describe all of those sources as one sided.

As to 'saving both sides a lot of money', the Small Claims action will cost the Trust less than one hundred pounds in total. It need not cost the other party a penny.
When do you envisage the Summons being issued?
mortonjag 2010-02-04 20:51:03
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 4 2010, 08:47 PM) [snapback]707802[/snapback]
Its pretty clear that MJ is all mouth and no action . Its easy to critisise people on here but not so easy to give it a go yourself or voice your opinion in person dry.gif
Its pretty clear that an event that should have cleared aprox 10-14k could not lose money if all money was accounted for .
For Example - Money claimed for tickets as an expense yet no money was paid out .. Theres money missing right there !

Really? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-04 21:02:52
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 4 2010, 08:41 PM) [snapback]707796[/snapback]
Maybe so but It just confuses me as to why Ernie chooses to belittle one side all the time, my concern here is that he will go to the end of the earth to see the trust finished in its present form but will walk away with no intention to help rebuild it, I have had more disagreements with the trust over the years than most with regard to the direction it had choose to take, I canceled my membership but like you I like the idea of what the trust could, not as it is today, my fear is Ernie has is own agenda and with no concern whatsoever for the future or rebuilding of the trust or who he hurts getting his own way.

Mortonjag is confused by all this talk of 'sides'.

So far as Mortonjag can see, a man was reported to the police for alleged theft, and after a thorough investigation was cleared. Very shortly thereafter an announcement was made via two Trust 'heid bummers' in which they purported to have evidence which was 100% guaranteed to retrieve the allegedly stolen money (via a Civil action). Mortonjag believes that the sooner this matter is brought to a conclusion the better for ALL concerned. That is why Mortonjag keeps asking when the Summons will be issued.

SO Kojie - if you mean that Mortonjag is attempting to belittle those two 'heid bummers', I guess that a timeous issuing of that Summons may get them off Mortonjag's hook.

As for belittling all the minions and minnows. They are already small in Mortonjag's eyes! wub.gif

mortonjag 2010-02-04 21:14:18 Right, i'm away, I need to close my laptop down and get back to feeling sorry for myself. If I can be bothered I will read any replies tomorrow.
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And Mortonjag's away to London/deliver a suite walk that Greyhound as it's burstin' for a pish and she's nagging at me again! blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-05 06:15:20
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 5 2010, 12:50 AM) [snapback]707876[/snapback]
Jagster, I'm not deleting anything because it's controversial or cutting edge, I'm just beyond bored with the 79 pish on the main board. I suspect most folk are and would like to come in here to get a light hearted and offensive break from it. THAT is the reason I've decided to enforce our first ever ban on a subject.

I can also assure you that I do not know anyone on either side of the argument on a personal level - no-one has "got to me" ya maddie. wub.gif

...and I wasn't getting at you ya daft wee keech!

I merely thought that the deletion of my post about the two black lads was crazy and I knew that if I said so on the main thread the usual eejits would crawl oot, and argue about the colour of shoe polish.

WHY do YOU think it disappeared Boozy? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-05 06:33:20
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 4 2010, 11:45 PM) [snapback]707848[/snapback]
have you remembered yet ?

I remember something though it's very hazy. It's probably been a dream. I saw this thing which looked a wee bit like an albino golly doll -and it had got a big chunk of something in its hands. It was moulding it wildly into the shape of a portly little creature, and cackling wickedly as it stuck a knitting needle through the belly button...then Shoogly marched in holding a microphone and everything went blank.

QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 4 2010, 11:50 PM) [snapback]707851[/snapback]
Andy has already posted about this in the deleted thread.

There were multiple disagreements long before there was any thought of any missing funds.

Didn't stop it being a great social night - but from emails and PMs there were threats of cancellation.

Many egos were polished on the strength of that bash. Some were bigger than others! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-05 07:53:36
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 4 2010, 08:47 PM) [snapback]707801[/snapback]
you said ego's which included mine, would you trust me with your coppers jar. I don't thik there are that many agendas that i seen but i suppose other have told you other wise?

When did board members nearly hit each other
one event doesn't showcase a badly run trust, has my event been badly run?
The trust nees to hange and current events will be a driver for change change more than ever. Where has allthe info came from i don't think its from just one side but i couln't tell you who.

as for phone calls and pms its just making matters worse.



QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 5 2010, 07:20 AM) [snapback]707891[/snapback]
There has been quite a bit of talk on 'agendas' here and mostly whether or not Mortonjag has an agenda.

Many claim he has, mortonjag claims he hasn't.

I think based on what he has written over the last couple of weeks it is very clear he has a major agenda here. Very willing to skip on to a messageboard and post from 6am in the morning to 10pm at night but openly invited to come along and help change the trust for the better and he is nowhere to be seen.

Ernie, you are a coward hiding behind a keyboard. If you have any shred of decency in you you will give up this petty tirade now. You have done enough damage to HMS on here with your sleverings to try and further your own agenda. Give it up now before someone ends up in really serious trouble (and I mean from any side of this argument) over this while you idly stand by rubbing your grubby little hands with glee.

Edit to add - And if you come back claiming to have no agenda all I can say as back-up to the above is; just about everyone on here perceives you as having an agenda, so I'm going with that!

Don't patronise me. If you want to retain credibility, try to remain serious about this. You refused to respond to my personal messages, then 'warned' me on the forum to 'watch what I said in them'. I'd like your explanation for that. Why did you not respond to my personal messages? You accuse me of not answering questions - I WOULD like to know why you are scared to communicate with me personally.

Don't attempt to lecture me. Those who know what is going on see you for what you are - and it's not very pleasant given the seriousness of the matter in hand.

The highlighted comment (red) proves you to be a simpleton.

A man has been accused of theft, interviewed by the police, his job may well have been 'on the line', and after being exonerated has AGAIN been called a thief on this massage board (which is subject to UK defamation laws) by somebody representing the Trust.

Until his allegations are substantiated or refuted he already is in potentially serious trouble.

Mortonjag has been involved behind the scenes in an attempt to bring this matter to a speedy conclusion -hopefully for the long term benefit of all parties involved.

Those who know, know that.

At least Scotty has jumped on the bandwagon with the offer of DOING something.

YOU, on the other hand are a contemptible wretch.
mortonjag 2010-02-05 08:21:58
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 5 2010, 08:00 AM) [snapback]707896[/snapback]
laugh.gif

Lectures on how to retain credibility from Jaggy, whatever next? laugh.gif

Comedy genius. thumbup2.gif

I was talking to the POISON dwarf - not you ya daft wee mixer.

It is quite a serious matter though, don't you think Geordie boy - defamation and all that?
mortonjag 2010-02-05 09:29:58
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 5 2010, 09:19 AM) [snapback]707920[/snapback]
All of the above proves my point.

You have no reason to be involved. Give it up! I have no reason to be involved either, that is why I am not replying to your PM with your little insider snippets, would you like me to post them here? I couldn't care less!

All I go on is what is on here, you have publicly brought a person to the forefront, promising they would post and they never did. I respect Jim for not posting but you built it up that he would explain all. To many that will put him in a bad light, not me as I know the guy.

Whatever you think, is not what others will think!

I refuse to be judged by you or anybody else on the massage board. Time will tell who has acted honourably.
mortonjag 2010-02-05 15:10:15
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 5 2010, 02:39 PM) [snapback]708041[/snapback]
I like the bit where Puggsy and Scott are criticised for airing their concerns in Public !, what about MJ, no comment on him ?, he's the one that's been going on about it constantly.

There have been a few comments Ghostie, though nothing new.

Today the lynch mob are having fun.

Even Mr Duncan Sir couldn't resist the temptation, but surprise surprise, no mention of HIS civil action. May be he thinks the kangaroo court is doing a good job.

To use an expression, the matter IS currently 'sub judice'. smile.gif

mortonjag 2010-02-05 15:19:58
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 5 2010, 03:13 PM) [snapback]708054[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2010-02-05 19:02:14
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 5 2010, 06:00 PM) [snapback]708132[/snapback]

I can't get that to load. I think the server went off before I could boot the computer.

Do you really think that half the posters on here are brain damaged Mr Donnelly?

Circumstantial evidence cuts both ways Sawney Bean - or so my lawyer friend tells me.

AND defamatory statements, once made, won't go away. have a restful weekend. All of the conspirators! wink.gif

mortonjag 2010-02-06 17:11:18
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Feb 5 2010, 10:26 AM) [snapback]707939[/snapback]
what kind of price are you looking for?

I'm looking for genuine offers. I don't want to frighten anybody off. If the offer's daft I'll say so.


SOLD!
mortonjag 2010-02-06 17:21:57
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 5 2010, 05:34 PM) [snapback]708123[/snapback]
what post was that

I can't direct you to a post which disappeared young man.

I noted the striking similarity in names - Dominic Shimmin, and Dominic Simmonds. I also noticed that neither is the colour of Ghost.

I commented that 'Our dumbo referees might have a problem. Two black guys, one Dom Simmonds, the other Dom Shimmin'.

The post just vanished.

I can only guess that somebody took exception to my calling them 'black'. They are certainly (like the Trust) far from lily white. I do not believe that the term '*racial slur removed* brown' is any longer acceptable.
mortonjag 2010-02-06 17:23:43
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 5 2010, 06:49 PM) [snapback]708149[/snapback]
Naaaa, peace man, a love everyone blush.gif

But don't TRUST everyone! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-06 17:26:39
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Feb 6 2010, 02:04 PM) [snapback]708389[/snapback]
which club/society/group of people would you most like to see done to death?

Eg: Star Trek Club
Wargamers
Trainspotters
Smackheads

So if there was to be a national cull,who would you vote for? Feel free to add more deserving types!

In its present form and with the present 'heid bummers', the Greenock Morton Supporters Society, Ltd.

That is a frank and honest answer, and not in any way intended to upset any well intentioned and honest members of the aforesaid Society.
mortonjag 2010-02-06 17:29:03
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 6 2010, 05:15 PM) [snapback]708486[/snapback]
We can beg to differ then smile.gif

If there had been a disruptive influence, the current shambles could never have existed.

Stringfellow's correct.
mortonjag 2010-02-06 17:31:26
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 5 2010, 12:42 PM) [snapback]707971[/snapback]
It has just been announced that mortonunofficial board member Cette Homme Charmant will face boredom charges over his s***e thread and fishing trips.

Is he a scapegoat to satisfy the board's thirst for blood on this issue, or is he just the tip of a helmet ? iceberg of greed and corruption?

Discuss. smile.gif

TonInDublin

Somebody put him up to it I heard.
mortonjag 2010-02-06 17:32:54
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 5 2010, 08:46 PM) [snapback]708240[/snapback]
Jim Devine is a horrible little scheming barsteward! I have no doubt that his trial will find he falsified expense claims.

As for MP's in general, its just a shame we can't get rid of them all. I have seen at first hand how legislation is framed and

1) Usually, those framing the legislation know sweet f all about the subject matter
2) MP's vote on what they think will get them re-elected rather than what is good for the country! How they vote is determine by the party leader e.g. Tony Blair and the Iraq war!
3) Mostly they are selected not because they are bright or likely to influence parliament for the better for the country but more because they are likely to toe the party line. That means that if you are labour, the best bet is to have been a shop steward. If you are Tory, you need to have been to the right schools and maybe been a banker or some other captain of industry. SNP and Liberals are likely to fit neither category which makes them both more electable in my eyes.

I hope Devine gets about 10 years but it will not happen! At worst they will get a fine which will be slipped to them by the party!

We have common ground at last, numbers man! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-06 17:41:47 I have signed the petition, after considering all the information very carefully.

I am concerned ,however, that the MS society which battles for victim's rights appears to have reservations, and I would draw your attention to the following.

Zamboni emphasizes that the Liberation Treatment does not make people in wheelchairs walk again. Rather, it seems to stop the development of further MS attacks, and in some cases, improves movement and decreases the debilitating fatigue that are the hallmarks of MS.

It's a wee bit misleading to talk of this treatment as a 'cure' for MS.

Just to waylay the usual attacks on everything Mortonjag says, Mortonjag's ex wife with whom Mortonjag still shares an excellent rapport is severely disabled on account of MS.
mortonjag 2010-02-06 17:45:25
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 6 2010, 05:29 PM) [snapback]708496[/snapback]
I dislike certain folk though

Away and take yer heid for a s***e

And you away and pull yours oot Kojie's erse!

JEEZUZ - I once saw you as being intelligent and of independent mind.

VERY sad Ghostie. sad.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-06 17:47:54
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 6 2010, 05:31 PM) [snapback]708498[/snapback]
I'm pretty sure they will be thinking the same as doc.

I agree with it also wink.gif

I should have added:

Sojerz who are trained to obey commands and not to question anything! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-07 09:08:08
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 6 2010, 07:44 PM) [snapback]708534[/snapback]
Fully understand though others will take it the wrong way.
I hope this is the turning point the Trust needed

I am CERTAIN of that Mr Donnelly.
mortonjag 2010-02-07 09:10:46
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 5 2010, 07:54 PM) [snapback]708192[/snapback]
Come onboard and ask that very question. rolleyes.gif

Same old people - same old dismissive arrogance. Gie's her tenner and you'll still know f*ck all - ISN'T THAT THE TRUTH Mr Donnelly?
mortonjag 2010-02-07 09:17:51
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 6 2010, 06:21 PM) [snapback]708512[/snapback]
We need people with opinions onboard, but those willing to listen to others.

The Trust needs people that are open, and want the best for Morton, not on personal ego trips.

Edit: my spelling is horrific

Can you clarify that statement Mr Donnelly - it sounds to me like a resignation announcement.

QUOTE(pmsc @ Feb 6 2010, 08:20 PM) [snapback]708539[/snapback]
Egos have been the problem with certain people within the trust since they were involved in the takeover. One man in particular spoke to fellow fans encouraged them in the fight aginst scott and at the sametime promoting the benefits of the trust and the long term future of Morton. He finds himself as the fans man on the board and attitude changes proclaiming that he is not the fans man but the trusts man. Sadly when you have a group of people together egos come to the fore. I have offered my services in the past with a we will get back to you still waiting

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mortonjag 2010-02-07 13:06:24
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 7 2010, 10:18 AM) [snapback]708612[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif its se65an

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mortonjag 2010-02-07 13:08:36
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 7 2010, 11:54 AM) [snapback]708637[/snapback]
How did you work that out... who told you, tell me, who told you my name!!

I need answers, am on ego trip and need answers I tell yi!!

Undoubtedly, and others need answers se65an.
mortonjag 2010-02-07 17:46:46
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 7 2010, 01:22 PM) [snapback]708657[/snapback]
I can only tell you the truth MJ, but that may well be not what you want to hear.

unsure.gif

OK then Sawney Bean - a couple of wee questions for you.

When the Trust takes on board new 'officials' - I'm thinking of folk like yourself - though by no means only yourself, and given that the Trust is governed by the Companies Acts, and in legal terms falls under the umbrella of corporate liability, what background checks are run on applicants?

Given that the Stars of '79 finances are still 'sub judice', and given that you were a co-organiser, what do you envisage as the likely outcome of legal action?
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mortonjag 2010-02-07 18:01:25
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 7 2010, 01:46 PM) [snapback]708665[/snapback]
maybe it's the dawn of a bright new day where every last one of your posts follows the path of your own tongue and disappears up your oft-mentioned arse.

That is possible.
mortonjag 2010-02-07 18:08:06
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 6 2010, 07:32 PM) [snapback]708530[/snapback]
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I prefer to take the initiative at times rolleyes.gif

Aye Kojie told me his knob sometimes gets sore.

QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 7 2010, 10:04 AM) [snapback]708607[/snapback]
Intolerant people.
Ignorant people.
Bad mannered people.
Penguins.

TonInDublin

Indeed TiD, and bad manners manifest themselves in myriad forms, from farting in company and letting some poor soul take the blame, through not tipping taxi drivers when they've safely dropped you off, to not promptly responding to billets doux! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-07 18:12:40
QUOTE(scotia morton @ Feb 7 2010, 12:19 AM) [snapback]708571[/snapback]
I understand what you mean MJ. It may not be a cure, but the results so far suggest it can stop the disease from getting any further and if i read it right, if the narrowing veins are spotted early enough it may prevent the onset of MS.

Thanks to all who have signed so far.

I'm just puzzled by the MS Society not being keen. If you'd replaced that with Nickerless Surgeon, I'd have produced hunners of signatures in half an hour.
mortonjag 2010-02-07 18:17:25
QUOTE(Spencey @ Feb 5 2010, 10:58 PM) [snapback]708298[/snapback]
Pardon my curiosity (it takes over from my pedantry sometimes) and possible lack of forum etiquette, but are you perchance related to a certain redbearded bowlegged 1970s Port High history teacher, whose younger brother, a clever guy and fine athlete, also attended the Port High for a few years in the early to mid 70s prior to transferring to Greenock Academy?

Possibly! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-07 18:25:08
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 7 2010, 06:20 PM) [snapback]708733[/snapback]
Ha ha ha ha

Your one hell of a twisted person.

But hey enjoy yir life.

I'll not bite..

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Sawney Bean, you appear to have deliberately misled me.

Those were genuine questions. I'm certain that every poster who has the wellfare of the Trust at heart would agree, yet having claimed that 'you can only tell the truth' you have apparently proved yourself to be a liar.

Are you in the habit of misleading folk Sawney Bean?
mortonjag 2010-02-07 18:27:51
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 5 2010, 07:19 PM) [snapback]708170[/snapback]
Na I will not bite!! biggrin.gif

Have a restful weekend, like I will.

Thank you for the felicitations Sawney Bean. My weekend has been relatively restful. Yesterday I spoke with the accountant, and today I met the lawyer.
mortonjag 2010-02-07 18:29:07
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 7 2010, 06:20 PM) [snapback]708732[/snapback]
Homos.

I fear legal AIDS.
mortonjag 2010-02-07 18:30:37
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 7 2010, 06:25 PM) [snapback]708736[/snapback]
So you are a knob watcher then

I cannot take my eyes off your picture darling.
mortonjag 2010-02-07 18:48:46
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 7 2010, 06:36 PM) [snapback]708746[/snapback]
Ha ha ha

Keep em coming.

How have I lied, go I'll bite... Only so I can have a good laugh at your response.



QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 7 2010, 06:38 PM) [snapback]708747[/snapback]
Infact, do what ever, am so daft for biting.

Enjoy

I can only tell you the truth MJ

By their deeds shall ye know them.
mortonjag 2010-02-07 18:50:50
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 7 2010, 06:32 PM) [snapback]708743[/snapback]
Ha ha ha ha.

Quality! Keep them coming.

I have no need to do so Sawney Bean. I believe they now have all the information they require
mortonjag 2010-02-07 18:53:29
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 7 2010, 06:49 PM) [snapback]708751[/snapback]
So you are just a knob then

Do not underestimate the little knob Ghostie. When aroused the little knob can do much damage to phannies.
mortonjag 2010-02-07 18:55:19
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 7 2010, 06:51 PM) [snapback]708753[/snapback]
Aye!

Leave me alone am on an ego trip

That is apparent.

Be careful the ego does not trip you up. dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-07 18:56:15
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 7 2010, 10:19 AM) [snapback]708613[/snapback]
Aye what ever. unsure.gif

Do you intend to step down?
mortonjag 2010-02-07 18:57:58
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 7 2010, 06:54 PM) [snapback]708758[/snapback]
Good.

We can look forward to an early out come.

dry.gif

That depends on how soon the Summons is issued Sawney Bean. smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-07 19:01:00
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 7 2010, 06:54 PM) [snapback]708757[/snapback]
huh.gif

None of your pals are around at the mo

laugh.gif laugh.gif

Unlike Ghostie, Mortonjag is very careful of the company he keeps. wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-07 19:06:17
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 7 2010, 06:59 PM) [snapback]708763[/snapback]
I will not bite!

It was another serious question Sawney Bean.

Are your new recruits being subjected to background checks, and indeed were you?

And that is another VERY serious question, which you may attempt to avoid if you wish.

Others will judge you on how you respond.. Mortonjag senses that you are a very uncomfortable man, and Mortonjag asks himself why that should be. smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-07 19:08:19
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 7 2010, 07:04 PM) [snapback]708766[/snapback]
All good company on my side ie

A Company
B Company
D Company
Support Company
and
HQ Company

wink.gif

Will your anchor hold in the storms of life?
mortonjag 2010-02-07 19:11:44
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 7 2010, 07:08 PM) [snapback]708769[/snapback]
I'll say agian your one twisted person.

Its blatant what your trying to do.

You are very perceptive Sawney Bean.

Will the new recruits be subjected to background checks, and indeed were you?

I cannot make you answer the question, but failure so to do may raise eyebrows!
mortonjag 2010-02-07 19:13:07
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 7 2010, 07:12 PM) [snapback]708775[/snapback]
Leave me alone am on an ego trip.

Be careful the ego does not trip you up.
mortonjag 2010-02-07 19:14:27
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 7 2010, 07:09 PM) [snapback]708773[/snapback]
Wrong person to ask, see Mr Peekey on that one
FAIL

Mortonjag has his own investigators! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-07 19:17:48
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 7 2010, 07:13 PM) [snapback]708777[/snapback]
Fighting a losing battle MJ, infact, its possible you have already lost and trying to save face by twisting things to suit yourself old one.
Another big
FAIL

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May Mortonjag's performance be assessed independently Ghostie.

What is your name, rank, and number in Sawney Bean's little defence force please? laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-07 19:19:47
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 7 2010, 07:16 PM) [snapback]708780[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2010-02-07 19:21:21
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 7 2010, 07:18 PM) [snapback]708782[/snapback]
I'm with an independent unit wink.gif

Has Sawney Bean gone AWOL now?

The Court Martial will hopefully see justice done! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-07 19:22:54
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 7 2010, 07:19 PM) [snapback]708783[/snapback]
Fixed that for you

I thought that was a trick for the children! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-07 19:23:36
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 7 2010, 07:20 PM) [snapback]708785[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2010-02-07 19:26:07
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 7 2010, 07:24 PM) [snapback]708792[/snapback]
The Court Martial will go well i am sure of, and you will be called to question MJ

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Possibly, though Mortonjag may rely on a legally qualified person.

Has yer pal Sawney told you when the Summons is going out?
mortonjag 2010-02-07 19:36:16
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 7 2010, 07:25 PM) [snapback]708793[/snapback]
Watch out for the Court Martial

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I'm looking forward to the Court Martial.
mortonjag 2010-02-07 19:45:05
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 7 2010, 07:35 PM) [snapback]708799[/snapback]
Is it true that the reason you are asking if new recruits will be subject to background checks because you were struck off as a general practitioner due to gross misconduct?

No it is not Kojie, and that of course is something which can easily be checked.

You, like myself are not a Trust member, though you have gone to inordinate lengths over the past couple of weeks to discredit Mortonjag every time he has asked legitimate questions.

Could you please check with yer wee pal Sawney. Did they give him the 'once over' before he got to deal with Trust money?

Only askin' ye ken!
mortonjag 2010-02-08 07:20:38
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 7 2010, 07:47 PM) [snapback]708805[/snapback]
Prove it.

No I do mean it, its a legit question. I did hear this too a while back you where sacked from being a GP



If I were about to provide you with medical services, that challenge would make sense. Furthermore it is entirely irrelevant to the question YOU are currently avoiding. The Trust is a registered limited company which oversees considerable sums of money on behalf of shareholders. WHAT CHECKS ARE IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT TRUST OFFICIALS ARE SUITABLY QUALIFIED, and in particular what checks did you undergo? I'm thinking specifically of the fact that money was allegedly in 'deficit' at the Stars of '79 'bash', and that one of your co -organisers has been implicated by, among others, yourself.
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 7 2010, 07:48 PM) [snapback]708806[/snapback]
I have done nothing of the sort, I have told it as I have saw it, over the last week not weeks I have said you have done the boy you are pretending to support more harm than good and all for your own silly wee agenda, anyway I believe you were struck off, I asked a very good friend of mine in that line of work and he said you were.


Oh I see Kojie - the reason you are attempting to discredit Mortonjag's professional status is because you want to support Willy Man.

Some folk will attempt the impossible to assist their friends! wub.gif

mortonjag 2010-02-08 07:26:05
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 7 2010, 07:33 PM) [snapback]708796[/snapback]
Mr H Palms, is it true you were struck of the gp's register after being found guilty of gross incompetance

No.

Is it true that you did not always work at your current occupation? smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-08 07:28:50
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Feb 7 2010, 08:26 PM) [snapback]708814[/snapback]
His name is DONOVAN SIMMONDS!!!!!

Which makes my point beautifully! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-08 09:29:55
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 8 2010, 09:07 AM) [snapback]708947[/snapback]
So, in essence MJ, you are making allegations towards se65an that he stole money from the 79's night.
All coming out the woodwork now.
I hope the MOD's take note of that.

If I had made any allegations , I'm sure that the Mods would already have been aware of them Ghostie.

I'm NOT making allegations as you very well know, though the Trust HAS and has promised a Civil action which seems very slow to materialise.

What I AM doing is asking a valid question. Sawney is recruiting for new Trust 'officials'. Given the financial disaster which was the Stars of '79 bash, I'd simply like to know what checks are to be made, and have been made to ensure that Trust officials are suitable people to deal with money.

Is that unreasonable?
mortonjag 2010-02-08 09:49:40
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 8 2010, 09:35 AM) [snapback]708953[/snapback]
Send the Chairman of the Trust en email stating what you are asking and i'm pretty sure you will get an answer. Where it be se65an, Bryan,Stewart Duncan etc etc.
As for my last post, going through all your previous posts on different threads its hard to not realise that you were more or less stating the obvious against se65an.

Just as yer pals Sawney and Kojie have 'more or less stated' that Mortonjag was 'struck off', Ghostie.

I regard their comments as a wee bit naughty, and I invite them to check with the General Medical Council, if they REALLY believe that Mortonjag has been a bad boy! I'm wondering, mind you, to which 'misconduct' they may be referring.

My question refers to the handling of finances by the Trust. I'm not targeting anybody in particular, but I'm asking the question of Sawney as he is currently advertising for new recruits. I believe the question has relevance in view of the financial disaster which was the Stars of '79 bash. That Sawney was involved in the organisation is common knowledge.
mortonjag 2010-02-08 09:57:26
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 8 2010, 09:55 AM) [snapback]708956[/snapback]
se65an is only backing up others who have already mentioned about becoming more involved in the trust, both he and bryan if you check the threads posted the same message in different threads at the same time MJ.

Fair enough. Then the 'others' are invited to answer the question too.
mortonjag 2010-02-08 14:06:47
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 8 2010, 12:03 PM) [snapback]708981[/snapback]
I didn't know that MJ was Mr H Palms !

You live and learn !

TonInDublin

Seems you have learned wrongly AGAIN! People make silly assumptions TiD.
mortonjag 2010-02-08 14:09:49
QUOTE(ccc @ Feb 8 2010, 11:46 AM) [snapback]708977[/snapback]
Has there been any movement on this case MJ? In all my years of working as an accountant I have rarely heard of the Revenue contacting individual customers directly at such a seemingly low level as this. The information should be supplied by the builders records and shouldn't have to involve phoning round the builders customers.

If you don't mind me asking, what was the ballpark cost of the work done? Are we talking >£10k? Perhaps this is a new policy of the Revenue which may worry many innocent parties in a similar situation to your Aunt.

My brother who is an accountant is now dealing with the matter. He has told her there is nothing to fear. Thanks for asking.
mortonjag 2010-02-08 14:41:11
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 8 2010, 02:17 PM) [snapback]709031[/snapback]
Not too sure about the "again" bit, but if I'm wrong about you being Mr Hairy Paws then apologies !

Name your source se65an !

TonInDublin

You are wrong Tid.

No further billets doux then? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-08 16:57:56
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 8 2010, 04:03 PM) [snapback]709075[/snapback]
Yip they do rolleyes.gif

Thank you for the apology.
mortonjag 2010-02-08 17:43:25
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 8 2010, 05:36 PM) [snapback]709114[/snapback]
Where? unsure.gif Still awaiting one from you.

I wasn't aware that you had asked for one or for what, Sawney Bean.

It's your thread! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-09 09:37:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 9 2010, 09:30 AM) [snapback]709317[/snapback]
into a top corner ?

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Thought ye were deid! blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-09 09:42:46
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Feb 8 2010, 06:32 PM) [snapback]709131[/snapback]
Good grief the slave masters are truelly losing the plot, WALKING TO SCHOOL. laugh.gif
My god the animals,such cruelty to the poor wee poppets, this will do them nothing but the world of good. You never know(mock shock) they might just get fit and we can't have that happening can we.
We don't half spoil our children nowadays. You used to get slaughtered if your parents picked you up or dropped you off in a car. Nowadays the children spend far too much time indoors and are not given enough time to use their imagination and are given no freedom or responsiblity.
It won't do them any harm.

Agreed, and I would scud their bahookies if they muttered a word of complaint. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-09 10:51:39
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Feb 9 2010, 10:44 AM) [snapback]709331[/snapback]

Wrong forum I guess! That blog kinda' died a death when the dug arrived! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-09 11:01:40
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 9 2010, 10:57 AM) [snapback]709334[/snapback]
Hmm, that's a bit out of order whether it's true or not.

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Just part of a bigger picture Boozie! Cannot say any more lest the Master Mod be watching! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-09 12:45:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 9 2010, 11:06 AM) [snapback]709339[/snapback]
I went to Miss Frances kindergarten also - must have been 1952 or thereabouts!.

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Shock horror - you must be nearly as old as MJ.

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Being a younger lad I wasn't there until 1955.

So, numbers man ... Bank Street Robertson Street West Blackhall Street and back to Roxburgh Street is wot ?

2 miles ?

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Not nearly as far as from Argyle St. in the Port up to Chapelton Primary Newt. If you email I may be able to dig out the exact figure. blush.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-09 12:47:31 Getting back to the original proposition, and given that the Holy Father only visits every couple of decades, how does the cost to the taxpayer compare to that spent on policing sectarian marches nationwide in the same time span?
mortonjag 2010-02-09 13:48:06
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 9 2010, 01:12 PM) [snapback]709378[/snapback]
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Aye, because as even mortonjag knows, the best way to contain disease it to expose lots of healthy people to a few diseased people within a hellishly confined and restricted space.

As in German Measles parties.

Achtung!
mortonjag 2010-02-09 13:54:06
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Feb 9 2010, 01:50 PM) [snapback]709413[/snapback]
Ah, it's amazing that people always revert back to the old conspiracy theory rather than admit they're wrong. laugh.gif I also drive by Scapa every day en route to Glasgow and it's said Saturday 20th for over a week now.

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mortonjag 2010-02-09 14:19:00
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 9 2010, 02:02 PM) [snapback]709423[/snapback]
Well said mate wink.gif

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mortonjag 2010-02-09 14:21:28
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Feb 9 2010, 01:59 PM) [snapback]709421[/snapback]
Thanks I just love that we agree on this subject. Do you think old pious should get his sainthood.
Could you also express your opinions and knowledge on the other two questions if you don't mind. Cheers. TiD

PS maybe we should go back to the wee Tugboat debate. Over to you MJ. wink.gif)

The Pope can walk on water.
mortonjag 2010-02-09 15:02:12
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 9 2010, 02:36 PM) [snapback]709437[/snapback]
Reduce your language and repetition, always get his attention, get as much eye contact as possible.

Get involved in what Heather is teaching ,simple turn taking, cause and effect games stacking blocks.

Nurseries, Hillend is brilliant , they have a room where they specialise with children with communication and language delay .

When James was younger we were a regular visitor to A and E as he would eat all manner of strange stuff and stuff things in his ears, nose and more eye water places.

Things they can't cope with vary to individuals it really is a spectrum of varying reactions .

If I picked James up from nursery ( we were only a few streets away but if he goes to Hillend they'll bus him to and from the nursery) James just couldn't cope with me appearing many a time he'd lay on the street refusing to move . Aye I know all the curtain twitchers !!!

We had an incident with a new coat , when he was at Glenbrae , threw the coat off , absolutely chucking it down and just lay in a puddle screaming and kicking , even had the police stop and had to explain I wasn't kidnapping him !!
Oh the joys at that time unsure.gif

So these things happen and we've all been there , you'll get the twats that think he needs a good slap in the Arse . Tell them to F.. off !!!!

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DONE BTW!!
mortonjag 2010-02-09 15:03:48
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Feb 9 2010, 02:30 PM) [snapback]709436[/snapback]
laugh.gif MJ are you feeling alright? Next you will be agreeing with Stuart Duncan.

I agree with many things Mr Duncan has said, but not everything.
mortonjag 2010-02-09 15:27:55
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 9 2010, 03:16 PM) [snapback]709446[/snapback]
Went to quote darrens post and clicked yours by mistake MJ, didnt realise it was still quoted blush.gif

The Monkey is on your side! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-09 15:29:44
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 9 2010, 03:17 PM) [snapback]709447[/snapback]
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As a person from a big city where all these kind of things are a short stroll or a few bus stops away, I cant help but think:

"Gerritupyee Sheepshagger!"

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What a bizarre conception.
mortonjag 2010-02-09 15:39:43
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 9 2010, 03:30 PM) [snapback]709452[/snapback]
Yes very true, infact I'd go as far as to say they were quite happy for it to happen as this used up resources eg soldiers, equipment not to mention the reduction of the workforce.

Liked the comment about the 20million being better spent on basic english lessons nearly pissed myself laugh.gif laugh.gif

although I have to say I don't see the benefit of such a visit when JPII came I was at school and got the day off so was all in favour .

A pragmatic sanction! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-09 20:22:24
QUOTE(Fellow Traveller @ Feb 9 2010, 07:52 PM) [snapback]709551[/snapback]
If the question referred to is the one about what checks if any have been carried out then the simple answer is none just as it is for virtually every other limited company (and in particular football clubs as we have all seen the type of people elected to their boards). Should it be done in the future? That's up to the Trust members and board to decide from here on. At the moment I don't think the Trust rules prevent any member becoming a board member providing they go through the democratic appointment process set out in the rules. ...........FT

My question referred specifically to Trust board members involved with finances/money. The Trust oversees what is by any standards a not inconsiderable sum, yet the financial supervision of the Stars of '79 night was apparently non existent - a cash bash of convenience delegated to two men with no financial skills.

I spoke previously of corporate responsibility. Who SHOULD be carrying the can for what became an unmitigated financial shambles?

Who appears happy to hide behind a 'paper' deficit while allowing others to pursue a vendetta against an easy target?

Mortonjag suggests that many, many people had the opportunity to 'dip the till'. The Police have already admitted that there was 'no proper paper trail'. There are apparently various versions of what really went on. Undoubtedly each is true in some measure.

Let's suppose that Willy Man WAS a naughty boy - was he the only one? Was he the MOST culpable one?

Mr Duncan's promise of a Civil action is taking a long time to materialise. WHY?

mortonjag 2010-02-10 07:55:46
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Feb 9 2010, 09:02 PM) [snapback]709573[/snapback]
In all seriousness what the **** has it to do with you?

In all seriousness - EVERYTHING - and if you don't give a toss about the future of Morton and the running of an organisation which was formed for its safeguarding, preferring to attempt persistently to discredit someone who does, I'd suggest that you are your own judge and jury.

On matters legal Sir, Mortonjag's knowledge of Summary Civil Justice has not been obtained as you amusingly suggested from the 'Ladybird Book of the Law'. Given, your unnatural interest in this matter, Mortonjag suspects that you may be allied to people who now wish it had been.

Decent, intelligent, and successful middle aged businessman do not normally 'knee jerk' at legitimate questions Sir. Who are YOU trying to protect?

QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 9 2010, 09:20 PM) [snapback]709586[/snapback]
As TaunTon has already stated, its nowt to do with you. Let it take its course and whatever the outcome.

If its not DDR you are trying to fire in about it will always be someone else.

Things dont happen overnight

Get a ****ing life

As for you, Ghostie, you're increasingly coming over as blinkered, not too bright, and willing to listen to others' orders. Are you a soldier perchance? laugh.gif

'THOSE THINGS'

Those things simply require Mr Duncan and Mr Goodwin to download the necessary paperwork, fill in all the wee boxes correctly (the guidance is designed to be user friendly) and toddle down to Greenock Sheriff Court, where one of the Clerks will happily relieve them of their £65 (I advise them to pay by cheque! dry.gif )

Willy Man will receive a Summons by First Class Recorded Delivery post within two working days. If Mr. Duncan really wants the 'missing' money back quickly - and he most certainly should - and if Mr Goodwin hopes to diminish the possibility of a future Defamation suit - WHICH HE MOST CERTAINLY SHOULD - 'the thing' which you claim 'doesn't happen overnight' should have happened nine days ago - on the Monday following their apparently improvident statements on this pubic massage board. (and I remind you that we are subject to UK defamation laws).

Mortonjag asked politely last night, and asks politely again - why has a summons not been issued as Mr Duncan promised? Has there been a change of heart? Are we about to hear that after re-consideration, the Trust accepts that it made a fundamental error, and is Willy Man about to be publicly exonerated?

Would it not be better to have this matter resolved before Mr Gallacher's co-organiser of the Stars of '79 evening brings in his 'fresh faces'?

Mortonjag suggests that perhaps THAT is the thing which should be 'taking time'. Mortonjag also suggests that it is essential to ensure that old mistakes are not repeated. What is done in haste may be regretted at leisure.

This matter has EVERYTHING to do with everybody who cares for the future wellbeing of Greenock Morton F.C. The only folk who attempt to suggest otherwise are the same folk who refuse to answer honest questions.

WHY?

mortonjag 2010-02-10 09:44:10 Becoming humble and accepting that others cannot match my excellence in all matters.
mortonjag 2010-02-10 09:47:31
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Feb 9 2010, 10:00 PM) [snapback]709605[/snapback]
Is that the entrance to MJ's cellar tongue.gif

The entrance to Mortonjag's cellar is a dark secret Willy Man. Only one has ever escaped to tell the tale, and he wouldn't dare! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-10 09:51:10
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 9 2010, 07:49 PM) [snapback]709550[/snapback]
I can too, but the best counter-example is the USA. The USA is aggressively secular in its schooling and governance but (as you know) massively religious in every other sense. Very, very few people go to religious schools (as they are all private) and fewer still are home-schooled (usually it's people from the nutter sects that endure this) but levels of churchgoing, even among the young, are extremely high.

I'm soon marrying a Texan, so I'm in the Dallas area a lot. The number of huge churches around is unbelievable, and they are building more all the time. I don't just mean the fire-and-brimstone "megachurches" but all kinds. Yet virtually none of their adherents underwent religious education in school. It is the strangest thing.

A cowboy?
mortonjag 2010-02-10 09:57:08 We've done SO well against Q.O.S. Can that continue? I reckon we'll probably get a draw out of this match - hopefully more.
mortonjag 2010-02-10 10:14:28
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Feb 10 2010, 10:07 AM) [snapback]709675[/snapback]
MJ you really are a windbag laugh.gif

I was under the impression that the future of Morton is likely to be dictated by the current owner rather than by the trusts 4% shareholding but whatever floats your boat.

Any 'unnatural interest' I have is entirely focussed on your personal involvement and your less than even handed role since you posted on behalf of a fellow board member.

Like most people I'm content to let the parties concerned resolve this in whatever way they choose, while you appear to throw petrol on the fire at every conceivable opportunity for reasons that only you can explain.

As for protecting folk - do me a favour. All these guys are adults and don't require protection from the likes of me or anyone else.


In all seriousness what the **** has it to do with you? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-10 10:33:56 Here.


“The responses to our Freedom of Information requests show that every community in Scotland will suffer because the SNP have done a deal with the Tories to launch the biggest assault on local services since Thatcher".
mortonjag 2010-02-10 11:02:05
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 10 2010, 10:52 AM) [snapback]709695[/snapback]
I don't even know what or where Gillies is...

It's where HT shags cows.
mortonjag 2010-02-10 11:03:11
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 10 2010, 10:58 AM) [snapback]709696[/snapback]
You really must stop taking all your information from the Labour propaganda machine that the Herald has become since changing editors.
Some say their pro-Labour anti-SNP stance is because the SNP government is proposing to cut their advertising revenue and switch to the internet instead of using newspapers.
Personally I think it's because there is an election and the Labour party are s***ting themselves on how many seats the SNP could win.
You expect this stuff from the Scotsman and the Record (who incidently have had their knuckles rapped by showing a picture of Al-Megrahi they stated had been taken months after his release from prison when in fact it was actually taken hours after his release.)

We know the SNP government budget has been cut by the Labour government in London. Everyone is going to feel these cuts including councils. If you want to moan about cuts look at the big picture and blame Labours mis-management of the economy that put us in this mess !

SEZ WHO? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-10 11:04:57
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 10 2010, 10:41 AM) [snapback]709689[/snapback]
That's nuthin, Nacho can judge how fast he runs just by looking at a photo ! laugh.gif

And can draw a Colt quicker than Shoogly can grab a microphone.
mortonjag 2010-02-10 11:22:42
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 10 2010, 11:11 AM) [snapback]709701[/snapback]
ME !!! laugh.gif

WHU UR YE? blink.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-10 12:02:15 They are all pigs in a communal trough.

Mind you, it's fun to see our posters making one lot out to be worse than another!

If folk are so gullible it's no wonder the c*nts get off with it! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-10 13:06:09
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Feb 10 2010, 01:03 PM) [snapback]709736[/snapback]
Right, so this is just the Priyus this is happening with, and not any of the other cars in Toyota's range?

The reason I ask is that I have a driving lesson tonight, and the lessons are done in a Toyota Yaris mellow.gif

The seven models being recalled in Europe are the Aygo, iQ, Yaris, Auris, Corolla, Verso, and Avensis, and cover manufacturing dates going back to February 2005. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-10 13:08:04
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Feb 10 2010, 01:06 PM) [snapback]709738[/snapback]
Blahblahblah.

You'll never know pain until you catch the tip of your **** on your trouser zip.

Or get a fitba' full force in the testy cools! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-10 13:22:37
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Feb 10 2010, 01:19 PM) [snapback]709754[/snapback]
Well I get picked up at my house in Greenock and drive to wherever the instructor tells me to go, generally the West End of Greenock like pretty much all instructors do.

Is your instructor a male?
mortonjag 2010-02-10 13:27:14
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Feb 10 2010, 01:24 PM) [snapback]709756[/snapback]
He is indeed.

this guy

He sounds quite good! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-10 13:37:48
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Feb 6 2010, 02:04 PM) [snapback]708389[/snapback]
which club/society/group of people would you most like to see done to death?

Eg: Star Trek Club
Wargamers
Trainspotters
Smackheads

So if there was to be a national cull,who would you vote for? Feel free to add more deserving types!

I've been thinking about this seriously - something I rarely do, and here's a not exhaustive list.

Politicians
Administrators
Social Workers
PC wallahs
Football Club Chairmen
Liars and cheats of all descriptions
Holy Willies
Women who shag their way into jobs they cannot do
Men who shag their way into jobs they cannot do
POUFFES
Homophobics
Lesbeans
Graduates of improper Universities
Illiterates
Banks and bankers
Bigots
Racists
Catholics
Black men

Ach - I f*ckin HATE EVERYBODY - mankind sucks.



mortonjag 2010-02-10 13:39:58
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 10 2010, 01:31 PM) [snapback]709759[/snapback]
If you are so concerned then why dont you join the trust or offer to help ?

Perhaps I have.
mortonjag 2010-02-10 13:42:16
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Feb 10 2010, 01:31 PM) [snapback]709760[/snapback]
Yep, things have gone well so far and he seems a nice enough chap. only my third lesson with him tonight, having done around 15 lessons around 4 years ago with another instructor.

Ghost's son is taking lessons with him also so he would be able to confirm how it's going from his side also.

A Toyota with a rudder? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-10 13:44:54
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Feb 10 2010, 12:55 PM) [snapback]709730[/snapback]
I got that as well. unsure.gif

Maybe somebody was breathing down her neck! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-10 13:47:15
QUOTE(Toby @ Feb 10 2010, 01:43 PM) [snapback]709766[/snapback]
Since, I'm a bigot, will you get in on your season ticket unsure.gif ?

Was just looking at the new topics and skim read Pope Toby.

Has there ever been a Pope Toby?
mortonjag 2010-02-10 13:58:40 It's a strange question really. I don't remember ever being particularly 'proud' of anything I accomplished, though I've certainly gained a sense of achievement at times in my life - it's always been very short lived - I always needed new challenges. I've met a few folk with similar experiences.

I once refused to stand up for 'God Save the Queen' at a Masonic do - I was feeling quite proud until my mate huckled me to my feet! sad.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-10 14:02:55 Does a 'disclosure' give details of somebody's ability to take charge of financial matters?
mortonjag 2010-02-10 14:08:59
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Feb 10 2010, 02:06 PM) [snapback]709780[/snapback]
I cant describe the pride I feel for my boy. A fine human being with generosity of spirit, intelligence, integrity,compassion and a quiet confidence endearing him to most. His best qualityof all he is totally unaware he is such a "Nice Guy"

What age is he?
mortonjag 2010-02-10 14:11:01
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Feb 10 2010, 02:09 PM) [snapback]709784[/snapback]
32

Ah - I thought perhaps you were talking of a teenager.
mortonjag 2010-02-10 14:15:16
QUOTE(Malt @ Feb 10 2010, 02:02 PM) [snapback]709777[/snapback]
Just wondering what kind of shows people watch and what they think is the best out there?

I have been a Lost addict and loved the Sopranos but really into the TV show Dexter. It is a bit different from the norm and possibly why it is so good.

Have watched seaon 1 - 5 of 24 and now it is on its 8th season with a further three to follow . . . will he ever die?

I also watched season one of Heroes but I did not think it was as good as some people said it was.

I rarely watch the Telly, though I sometimes am forced to when my grandchildren insist. Some of the POUFFES on children's TV are an embarrassment to respectable gay folk! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-10 14:18:42
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Feb 10 2010, 02:14 PM) [snapback]709790[/snapback]
No it will outline if they have been charged with a criminal conviction.

Exactly my point. I don't suppose disclosures would do any harm but they wouldn't really prove that somebody was a suitable person to oversee financial matters.
mortonjag 2010-02-10 14:23:18
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Feb 10 2010, 02:16 PM) [snapback]709792[/snapback]
Morton Jag, how could you really hate Social Workers?

Don't they ive you enough care for your senility? rolleyes.gif

Mortonjag has his own carer - a delightful young woman and by no means a social worker! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-10 14:26:35
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Feb 10 2010, 02:23 PM) [snapback]709798[/snapback]
Only joking he is 21 yrs old. He and his friends are genuinely good young people. We dont hear enough about the good ones. Only about the law breaking or sleakit little horrors. Start rewarding the Good I say!

I knew you weren't that old LL.

Your description perfectly fits that of my middle wean at the same age. He's now 32, a father or two, and in an extremely responsible position work wise. He constantly makes his own life a misery by trying to ensure that everybody else is happy. Just one of those things.
mortonjag 2010-02-10 14:30:11
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 10 2010, 02:29 PM) [snapback]709804[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2010-02-10 14:31:16
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 10 2010, 02:29 PM) [snapback]709803[/snapback]
Why should Israel have nuclear weapons and Iran should not ?

Why should some folk in Scotland get medical treatment and others not? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-10 14:34:06
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Feb 10 2010, 02:31 PM) [snapback]709808[/snapback]
Like me you wouldn't change a thing as all we could ever hope for..except the laziness(not at work or uni, just at home)

Thank you for the non auld dutch compliment, sir

You are very welcome. All of the ladies on our massage board are extremely gracious to Mortonjag. Many of the 'men' are unfulfilled and jealous wee creeps! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-10 14:46:28
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Feb 10 2010, 02:40 PM) [snapback]709813[/snapback]
The only thing a discloser would bring up is that if someone has been charged with dishonesty in some way and then it is a judgment call for the trust (or any organisation) whether they want the person on associated with their organisation.

I would expect (but don’t know) that the trust set up is similar to that of Charitable organisations that if you have been charged with an act of dishonesty by the courts or that you have been decaled bankrupted or are excluded form being a charity trustee or company directed by the courts you can’t sit as a trustee.

What we got to remember is that the troops that are involved in the trust do so in their own time for the goodness of the club (some might argue that point but I’m not here to start an argument)
You would hope that someone overseeing the finance would have some idea of bookkeeping or accounts but this is seldom the case in any organisation.

I have worked with groups who want their finances independently examined and give you a bag full of bus tickets for the past 5 years (it happens)
What I would say is that there are organisations out there that can train people in basic bookkeeping.

But its volunteers we are speaking about so if someone is willing to do that job then let them.

It’s not the 1st time an allegation of dipping the till has been made with regards to a voluntary organisation and unfortunately it will not be the last. And unless there is a change in the law which ( IMHO) would kill the voluntary sector that says that all tregarers must have an accounting / bookkeeping qualification before taking on the VOLINTRY job then nothing is going to change

You make very good points. If people with no financial skills are delegated tasks by people with purported financial skills and something goes wrong, who do you suggest is ultimately responsible Pedro?
mortonjag 2010-02-10 14:49:03
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Feb 10 2010, 02:43 PM) [snapback]709818[/snapback]
I have met some gracious enchanting gentlemen from the forum over the years, I do not doubt you that there are some envious of your omnicompetence

That sounds somehow a little rude! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-10 14:51:09
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 10 2010, 02:49 PM) [snapback]709825[/snapback]
I think most intelligent people can see that if the London government reduces the pocket money that it gives (back) to Holyrood, there are going to be cuts in Council budgets. Only the most stupid people in our society could fail to see that - so they might still vote Labour.

Maybe the Council's should look at getting rid of a lot of the unnecessary jobs - smoking cessation officers, LGBT liaison officers, that sort of nonsense - and reduce their range of services to those that really matter. stopping paying councillors' salaries would help too - it's not, or at least shouldn't be, a full time job.

Labour has screwed the economy up big time - don't expect them to admit it though. At lease we have a Scottish government that wants Scotland to succeed rather than one that prefers that Scotland doesn't get above its station.

If you vote Tory you might get a better car! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-10 16:58:19
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 10 2010, 03:47 PM) [snapback]709862[/snapback]
This is coming from a guy who since the Trust was formed 10yrs ago has not been interested enough to join.


REALLY Kojie - I thought you said you only chucked the Trust about a year ago because you were disgusted with it. So what is YOUR interest in matters which are none of your concern? laugh.gif

Mortonjag is a Trust member.

Mortonjag perceives Kojie to be ungrateful to Mortonjag for previous assistance and blindly loyal to others where loyalty may not be de rigeour! Mortonjag suggests that Kojie may not be very bright. Mortonjag takes disloyalty VERY personally. rolleyes.gif

Are you wearing two hats Kojie, 'cos that can gie ye a sair heid, an' a caul' yin's bad enough this weather! wub.gif

Get off the bloody fence man! Who really made the baws up? Was it yer wee pal Sawney and naughty naughty Willy Man, 'cos Jaggy thinks the buck stops right at yer big pal Mr Duncan Sir's door, and he's been awfy quiet since he was on here all 'gung ho' about Civil actions almost two weeks ago! thumbup2.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-10 18:09:40
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 10 2010, 05:43 PM) [snapback]709900[/snapback]
Disgusted with it is a bit harsh but you are correct, I gave up my membership a year ago because I was fed up with where the trust where and the fact that they seemed happy to walk on the spot, my interest is more to do with your agenda and what you hope to achieve, remember I have not once posted publicly my opinions on the alleged missing monies and the opinions I have are known to both members of the trust and their prime suspect. I have said time after time that I believe you have no interest in the well being of any of the two parties, you are out to destroy reputations and you're not interested who gets hurt in the cross fire.
Will you attend meetings?
Blind loyalty? Why because I dare question your motives and the way you have conducted yourself in this affair. Do you believe because we got on reasonably well and I shared conman ground with you in the past that i should not speak out when I think you are out of order?
One hat, the other hat knows why it's lying in the cupboard.
Like i said I have my opinions on the whole affair but those opinions will not be aired publicly on any message board.

Well Kojie, I'm sure that folk will see right through that piece of flannel!

Mortonjag is not entitled to question reputations, but Kojie's making a concerted effort to discredit Mortonjag!

PLAIN AND SIMPLE, and the reasons are equally plain and simple. You don't like questions being asked. Reputations are not destroyed by questions, but they may be by an unwillingness to answer them.

Folk are not stupid. You are a personal friend of Mr Duncan 'of 23 years standing' and you trust him implicitly - your very own words Kojie. It's also common knowledge that you and Sawney are 'bosom buddies'. Mortonjag has no personal allegiance to any of the parties involved in the matter.

Several posters have already agreed on this thread that Mortonjag has posed reasonable questions, and I'll repeat one of them.

When is yer big pal getting the Summons sent out?

mortonjag 2010-02-10 20:02:50
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 10 2010, 06:46 PM) [snapback]709922[/snapback]
You seem to have forgot to mention that I have been friends with Jim G for more than 27 years.

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Here's what somebody said about 'your friend of more than 27 years':
[attachment=6462:defamationnfinal.jpg]

....and here's what the forum rules state:

'The forum is hosted in the UK and is subject to its defamation laws'.

Shortly after that statement was made, your 'friend of 23 years' assured posters that he was 100% certain that the 'missing money' would be recovered, stating that the Trust intended to pursue a Civil action.


A serious question to you Jim.

Given that the Trust (embodied by Messrs. Goodwin and Duncan) claimed already to HAVE the 'evidence' which I presume was for some reason unavailable to the police, and given that those men have stoutly proclaimed themselves as defenders of Trust members' monies, and given that a Civil action could have been set in motion on Monday 1st February, do you agree with me that their ongoing failure to do so seriously harms their credibility, and do you also agree with me that your 'friend of 27 years' is entitled to pursue a defamation action against the Trust unless that allegation is proven?






mortonjag 2010-02-11 06:07:54
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 10 2010, 08:21 PM) [snapback]709954[/snapback]
I'm beginning to wonder what part of I wont be drawn into discussing this on a public forum you don't understand.

Why the change of heart?

Why the reluctance to answer open questions?

Why the recent attempts by you and others to discredit Mortonjag including unfounded allegations of having been 'struck off' and several sleekit (Virgin Internet) searches on line for Mortonjag's personal data?

You are as transparent as a glass door.

Not long ago you described Mortonjag as a 'puppet', and wanted to 'meet Mortonjag to discuss something personally' rolleyes.gif

Please do not be offended when I describe you as an odious piece of plasticene. rip.gif

How does it feel, constantly trying to be'everybody's friend'? When will your masters be issuing the Summons, Playdo?

The question's not going to go away.
mortonjag 2010-02-11 08:00:56 Penny wise, pound foolish
mortonjag 2010-02-12 07:29:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 12 2010, 07:08 AM) [snapback]710371[/snapback]
Saying that now is a bit like saying the army should probably pull out of Iraq now incase there is any more damage.

The damage has already been done!

You are correct, and Mortonjag has asked those who caused the damage to say when the promised Civil action will be put in motion.

Mortonjag had several appointments in 'London' yesterday including a visit to an old friend in Chancery Lane followed by a large coffee round the corner in Fleet Street. dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-12 07:37:38 Douglas Rae is undoubtedly Mr Big at Cappielow - Mr Bigger now since the Trust looks to be fatally injured. Vaulting ambition that o'erleaps itself is worst nurtured by incompetents. dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-12 07:44:44
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 11 2010, 08:12 PM) [snapback]710266[/snapback]
Anyone else heard these?

Gave me quite a fright last night bout 3.30am , I had my window open and couldnt sleep so was just lieing there and I heard the most blood curdeling scream Ive ever heard .

I bounced out of bed to look out my window to see if someone was in trouble and it continued 3 or 4 times in a row ..
I figured out it was some sort of animal as the pitch etc didnt change so couldnt be a person screaming but still gave me quite a fright .

I was just about to phone the cops , God Id have looked stupid lol

Anyone else heard them ?

What they sound like 1
What they sound like 2

It HAS been done for less! dry.gif


Anyway, urban foxes started to become common in Glasgow's Southside in the early eighties, and were soon to be seen north of the river too.

In the early hours in 'the Drum', I once watched a fox stand on his hind legs with his forepaws against a wheelie bin, and gradually rock it back and forward until it toppled over - Bingo!

Clever wee beasties.
mortonjag 2010-02-12 07:53:52
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 10 2010, 11:18 PM) [snapback]710024[/snapback]
A mean working social?

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mortonjag 2010-02-12 07:57:33
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 10 2010, 10:54 PM) [snapback]710013[/snapback]
Who on here do you this has a mental illness. I mean who on here comes across as a complete physco?

Guess one of Sawney's weans has got to the computer again. unsure.gif

Mortonjag will opt out of this one as his assessment of personalities often upsets others. wub.gif

mortonjag 2010-02-12 10:15:58
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 12 2010, 08:16 AM) [snapback]710382[/snapback]
You should have called the local hunt Douglas.

Witch hunt Peter? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-12 10:18:01 Total liability and STILL needs a shave.
mortonjag 2010-02-12 10:55:03
QUOTE(irnbru @ Feb 12 2010, 10:38 AM) [snapback]710415[/snapback]
I joined up to the trust last week but haven't had so much as an email or anything confirming membership (have paypal reciept so I know its been paid).

Does anyone know if there is supposed to be any confirmation or anything or is it normal just to take the money and run?

A wee standard letter or email is all that would have been needed!

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I believe it takes a week or two before you'll receive your 'stuff'. Remember you are dealing with complete amateurs when it comes to running financial matters.
mortonjag 2010-02-12 12:49:35
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 12 2010, 11:17 AM) [snapback]710426[/snapback]
There is precisely one thing approaching a 'valid point' in what is otherwise a laundry list of assertions and self-justification. It is this:

"Mr Salmond has defended his deputy by saying that MSPs must do their best for constituents, whether or not they condone their actions “because they have a duty of careâ€. In this case, Ms Sturgeon’s other constituents are entitled to a duty of care that extends to ensuring those who steal from the public purse are punished appropriately and that justice takes its course."

The only problem is that this presupposes that a custodial sentence is the only appropriate punishment.

FWIW I do think jail is appropriate for a second offence of this magnitude but the Herald have a way of couching conclusions within propositions that seemingly works for people who don't read critically.

Precisely, and in particular when he's previously 'done time' for similar.
mortonjag 2010-02-12 12:51:49
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 11 2010, 12:38 PM) [snapback]710131[/snapback]
laugh.gif Why is that ph34r.gif ?

Necrophilia! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-12 12:55:43
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 12 2010, 12:53 PM) [snapback]710453[/snapback]
For someone who claims no political affiliations you certainly like to throw unjust and false accusations about !

Sturgeon couldn't bend the rules of the Justice system, she simply doesn't have the power to do so. So your accusatio is quite false.

What she did do, is make an appeal to the court to take into account the accused ill health and "consider" alternatives to a custodial sentence. That's all !

Quote from Sturgeons letter to the court "I would appeal to the court to take the points raised here into account and consider alternatives to a custodial sentence."

Many politicians have done the exact same thing for their constituents. Yes even Gordon Brown, which shows up Labours utter hypocrisy once again.

All this focus on Sturgeon is just trial by the media on behalf of the Labour party. The Labour party prey on the fools and the gullible to take this nonsense in. And unfortunately it has worked to a certain extent.


Absolute pish Spurtle. How many Govan jakeys has she been speaking up for because of their ill health, and they get 'banged up' day and daily? The woman is a clown, and desperately needs a shave. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-12 13:00:34
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 12 2010, 12:57 PM) [snapback]710456[/snapback]
Well, we know your views on Sturgeon. So whatever I say won't make a blind bit of difference...

I have now been proved correct Spurtle - she's a jumped up little prat who's now well overstepped the mark. What Bawheid has to say in public disguises the fact that he's raging at her crass stupidity, and at least he does shave. dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-12 13:01:49
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 12 2010, 12:59 PM) [snapback]710458[/snapback]
Hardly precise. It took him four paragraphs to state that she was wrong... biggrin.gif

It was the rid bit HT - like Bawheid's beamer! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-12 13:07:20
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 12 2010, 01:03 PM) [snapback]710463[/snapback]
This is just another in a long line of non-stories over which Labour in particular have been foaming at the mouth. There was a similar story about a month ago concerning some Chinese (?) individual who had asked Alex Salmond for assistance and who had turned out to be an illegal immigrant or something like that. These matters are trivial beyond belief and would not be commented on were it not for the desperation of the Labour friendly press to find any stories that might be damaging to the SNP. Also, Labour wanted to get Jim Devine and his fellow criminals off the front pages.

Personally I don't see any value in a reference from an MP or MSP who doesn't actually know you, but apparently what Ms Sturgeon did is normal practice. I am probably one of only a few people who have actually read the letter she wrote (it's in the Caledonian Mercury) and frankly it's pretty innocuous. Sentencing is the prerogative of the court and I don't think her letter would change anything. Given that the guy was apparently paying back the money, I can see merit in letting him continue to do so rather than imprisoning him at great expense.

Labour are desperate to cause as much trouble as they can by fair means or foul. Basically they are a bunch of incompetent numpties who are writhing around as they watch Labour in its death throes. They failed to realise that amongst the MPs who have written letters of support for accused people in the past is one Gordon Brown, who provided a reference for a man convicted of being in possession of a large quantity of cannabis in 1999. I suspect this story will die very quickly once Downing St realises that it will damage the PM if it is allowed to continue. Score SNP 1 (Gray o.g.) Labour 0.


If that IS true it just makes her look DOUBLY stupid! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-12 13:10:20
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 12 2010, 01:04 PM) [snapback]710464[/snapback]
Certainly wouldn't be my proudest moment blink.gif

I was referring to TiD and 'wimmin havin' cold erses'. In my experience - and I've seen quite a few - wimmin's erses are normally nice and warm.
mortonjag 2010-02-12 13:16:20
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 12 2010, 01:14 PM) [snapback]710471[/snapback]
As I said in a previous post, only fools and the gullible to take this nonsense in rolleyes.gif

NOBODY HELD HAND UP IN SUPPORT]

Which gives the lie to Alibi's assertion.

As I said, the woman is a liability, and an unshaven clown.
mortonjag 2010-02-12 14:19:06
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 12 2010, 01:40 PM) [snapback]710485[/snapback]
The Daily Record !!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif A new low even for you MJ. If you have been reduced to going to the Daily Record for information then you really are a gullible fool.

Alibi is quite correct, Gordon Brown did a very similar thing for one of his constituents.

Aye Spurtle - the poor bloke had been growing cannabis!!

Seems even this lot couldn't dodge the facts of wee Nickerless's crass idiocy!
Note the Tory comment!
mortonjag 2010-02-12 14:22:41
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 12 2010, 02:05 PM) [snapback]710492[/snapback]
Is it only paypal you can use to pay ?

Best not to pay in cash.
mortonjag 2010-02-12 14:31:22
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 12 2010, 02:26 PM) [snapback]710499[/snapback]
Aye, that guy in Fife was growing thousands of pounds worth of cannabis. Far more than he could have used himself. Should have been done for dealing rather than possession but no doubt a trade off was negotiated somewhere along the way.

Don't let the fact that Nicola turned you down for a sh4g sway your judgement...

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Don't be silly - Mortonjag doesn't shag lesbeans!

Heard the poor guy was donating the stuff to MS sufferers.
mortonjag 2010-02-12 14:41:46
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Feb 11 2010, 10:50 PM) [snapback]710333[/snapback]
This course is responsible for a lot of what happens in the Scottish music scene, if you have 2 mins, click the link and sign the petition - there is also a bit more information there.

If you don't really care, then the guy that is in charge of the course is a Morton fan so sign it for him!
Sign here

Why are they planning to scrap the course?
mortonjag 2010-02-12 14:45:54
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 12 2010, 11:03 AM) [snapback]710418[/snapback]
Only if straight players were forbidden from playing, which in the case of all the gay teams I know is not the case.

I did an interview last year with one of the top gay teams in the country and the guy I spoke to made it clear that it was really a gay-friendly team as opposed to a gay team - players of all orientations turned out for the club and it was only founded as openly gay players were looking for a friendly environment in which to play, something that some of them weren't able to find in the past.
There already is a de facto heterosexual tournament - it's called professional football.

Nae POUFFES? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-12 14:55:13
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 12 2010, 02:50 PM) [snapback]710509[/snapback]
Very few who are out. I doubt there's a professional player in Scotland who would admit to being a homosexual, and I know of just one in England. It is statistically probable that there are several more who are closeted, either simply because they don't want to reveal it or because they feel (quite validly) that they risk ostracism if they do.

Football in this country has *largely* rid itself of racism, although there is still much to be done. But we haven't even begun to deal with the anti-homosexual nature of the British game, and it is urgent that we do so.

True.

Plenty who ain't I'd imagine.
mortonjag 2010-02-12 15:00:11
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 12 2010, 02:56 PM) [snapback]710512[/snapback]
I know that Russell is another whose done well at a lower level and another club only to be overawed by expectation.

I always felt Russell would make a decent fist of it in an attacking midfield role rather than as an out and out striker.

One of the biggest issues we have had for a number of seasons is a good working partnership up front.

If Weatherson is going to be played as the target man with the emphasise of balls being played to feet then to me Russell would be the best option unless Simmonds is going to prove himself.

I believe that LEAFY will come good.
mortonjag 2010-02-12 16:49:09
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 12 2010, 03:17 PM) [snapback]710514[/snapback]
Fek he's going from the Daily Record to the Tories to prove a point laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

To yer Caledonian rag Spurtle - and the point requires no proving - like Nickerless's stubble it is self evident!
mortonjag 2010-02-12 16:57:05
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 12 2010, 04:05 PM) [snapback]710520[/snapback]
Agreed. My dislike of Che Guevara was always magnified by the eccentric left-wing weirdos who either walked about Strathclyde Uni wearing a t-shirt with his picture on it or had a giant poster plastered across their halls of residence flat. Most of the time they couldn't even tell you why.

On topic, I just finished reading Bob MacAlindin's Billy Steel biography Billy Steel: Scotland's Little Maestro. I was really disappointed with it. It hardly mentioned his time at Morton and was a chore to read because it was basically a list of dates, matches, scores and a rehash of what he did in those matches.

The only time it really caught my interest was when the author actually spoke about his own experiences watching Steel play at Dens Park.

Folk readily buy into urban myths, and not just students.

I don't read fiction but am fascinated by books on crime and criminals. It's amazing the tricks folk get up to in an attempt to implicate others!!

Currently on 'The Encyclopaedia of Women Killers' by Brian Lane - tabular and factual, though on Susan Newell, he seems to think Coatbridge is part of Glasgow!
mortonjag 2010-02-12 16:58:51
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 12 2010, 04:50 PM) [snapback]710528[/snapback]
Indeedy - the FA's decision to delay the new campaign against homophobia doesn't help either. There was something about it on Newsnight the other day, I'm sure it'll still be on the website somewhere.

YIP - the FA are a wishy washy shower of POUFFES.
mortonjag 2010-02-12 17:01:15
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 10 2010, 11:17 PM) [snapback]710020[/snapback]
They will think I am one of their own, gain their trust, then when they least expect it (nap time I think) I'll snap every one of their necks!

Nobody could be so stupid.
mortonjag 2010-02-12 20:23:21
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 12 2010, 07:06 PM) [snapback]710582[/snapback]
Mind it is guys that put in their own time, unlike most.

I know how busy I am at work, never mind the trust, or AHMS.

Come onboard and help out, its obvious we need help

If people are 'so busy doing other things' that they can't send out an acknowledgement promptly, shouldn't they be asking themselves some serious questions? I at least give you credit for attempting to answer the question. That in itself may be seen as progress.

Talking of progress, is there any prospect of that Civil action starting, as I.M.O. Messrs. Duncan and Goodwin are beginning to look VERY silly?

I have joined the Trust Sean, and I already told you I'm willing to assist in future if I can. I AM well qualified in many areas and have plenty of spare time. I will NOT, however, be giving any help until I am satisfied that the Stars of '79 business has been properly explained to the Trust membership.

The matter is not going to go away. Civil action was promised. When will the Trust be recouping the 'missing' money?

mortonjag 2010-02-12 20:30:30
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 12 2010, 05:12 PM) [snapback]710538[/snapback]
Why not ? As long as I got a reciept it would be fine .. Only when certain individuals dont keep paper reciepts do problems arrise .

Would you be meaning 'receipt'?

In the same way as some folk cannot spell a simple word, some folk ain't very good at financial organisation. Problems certainly arise when they are delegated tasks that are beyond them. It doesn't inevitably make them bad people, nor does the apparent inability to remember 'i' before 'e', except after 'c'! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-12 20:36:28
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 12 2010, 06:07 PM) [snapback]710562[/snapback]
Worse thing YOU could do is make a personal assessment of yourself dear Dr. rolleyes.gif

Those who actually know this dear doctor (who incidentally has an impeccable professional record) seem rather fond of him.

In real life Mortonjag has no enemies and will bend over to help folk. smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-12 21:06:38
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 12 2010, 08:38 PM) [snapback]710641[/snapback]
So there is many...I thought it was just me

mmm, cheers H Palms

H Palms?

Mortonjag HAS had a couple of aliases Sawney. H Palms was never one of them.

Mouton was a cold wee lamb
So Mummy bought a heater
She wired it 'wrong' the dizzy dam
And overcooked the meter.

..oh and there was Big Blue Eyes all Kilmacolm and flash and holidays in the sun

AND who else

...oh aye Edwin Bedouin.. but tontastic kicked him oot the back door pronto and GKR told me to clean up my act - SO Mortonjag's been Mortonjag - plain and simple for a LONG time Sawney Bean! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-13 07:46:21
QUOTE(Grady @ Feb 12 2010, 09:12 PM) [snapback]710663[/snapback]
Scott... Whilst Paypal is as onlinely secure as always, please bear in mind that the full membership fee doesn't reach the Trust. Paypal take a service fee of over 5% which can't be recovered. The bare-ersed cheek of them!

Cheque seems to have always been the preferred method but, if you don't mind some of the funds going to a third party (MJ-stay out of it!), then Paypal is the slightly easier option.

You could have had your cheque Pordy - wee Bryan gave me the link to Paypal, and there was no mention of the 'missing' 50p! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-13 07:48:06 He says we will win 2 - 1 with goals from Spoonsy and LEAFY.
mortonjag 2010-02-13 07:49:30
QUOTE(jimbobton @ Feb 12 2010, 10:56 PM) [snapback]710691[/snapback]
Only if he gets picked.......................

He'll score today if he gets the chance.
mortonjag 2010-02-13 07:57:44
QUOTE(Yoda @ Feb 12 2010, 09:27 PM) [snapback]710670[/snapback]

The days of the bucket and spade are gone! sad.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-13 08:00:18
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 12 2010, 07:41 PM) [snapback]710602[/snapback]
Actually I think the whole thing is rather trivial - maybe before commenting people should actually read the whole content of the letter, because it doesn't say what Labour are claiming. It's not a character reference or anything like that. Trying to make an issue of this shows how bereft of proper ammunition the Labour Party is. Not picking on you with the foregoing BTW Taunton.

Can't wait for Jim Devine to be tried - bet he'll be looking for a glowing reference from his local MSP...

No you don't you old rogue.

QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 13 2010, 12:55 AM) [snapback]710715[/snapback]
Yet another politician dragging the good name of Govan through the mud in order to court support from the Muslims in Pollokshields. Well, I suppose Nicola is only trying to play the same game as Labour.

Now, whenever i hear of Benefit "fraudsters" I normally think of someone who has fallen on hard times but is supplimenting his £64 a week dole money by moonlighting for a few hours a week, however it has to be said that this Abdul Rauf character was clearly taking the piss. He lives in a £400k house in Pollokshields and has a second home in Edinburgh worth £200k, so he is clearly a man of means who doesn't need state assistance of any sort.

That is the real scandal here, but it is conveniently hidden underneath the Labour Party smear campaign of Nicola Sturgeon for something which she could have bodyswerved by doing some homework.


The heart of the matter, and I think that's the reason for her moustache too.
mortonjag 2010-02-13 08:03:53
QUOTE(MrX @ Feb 12 2010, 08:28 PM) [snapback]710635[/snapback]
You should read Helter Skelter by Vincent Bugliosi, its outstanding.

TY - will make a point of getting that.

QUOTE(MrX @ Feb 12 2010, 08:32 PM) [snapback]710637[/snapback]
Any numbskull can go to university these days, its no great achievement.

It only ever was an achievement in academic terms. Mind you the proper Universities still tend to produce graduates who can read and write! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-13 08:06:42
QUOTE(El gofer @ Feb 13 2010, 12:14 AM) [snapback]710702[/snapback]
Me and mrs went to Saffron tonight. We were the only ones in, so service was naturally good!

I had south indian garlic chilli chicken (tomorrows gonna be emotional!) and it was spot on. Mrs had a korma. We ordered a pilau rice and a pishori naan and all was good.
Mixed pakora starter, pint of cobra for the gent, bottle of cobra for the lady....... £28.

A bit on the bright side but I would def go back.

Aldo's def slipped toward the end but I used to love going there, as has been mentioned with a group, especially family. The food was fine but the ambience made it enjoyable. Much of that I am sure Raffe had worked at over the years. A sad loss, as it is truly a local institution.

Sounds a bit lavatorial.

Up in the smoke it's called Peshwari.
mortonjag 2010-02-13 08:13:48
QUOTE(StillTON @ Feb 12 2010, 10:07 PM) [snapback]710676[/snapback]
You moaning again,as the Queen of Sheba said she has a receipt so she will be notified shortly.
It appears to me that you will not be content until the trust folds,but thats not going to happen so
would please keep your cheap shots to yourself and stop trying to have everybody envolved with
the trust's reputation questioned.The Trust will be here long after your gone,so unless you have prove
of any mis-doing then I would remind you are open to slander.If you have no prove would you please
keep your comments to yourself,as anybody you point the finger at can take civil action against you for
accusing without any evidence and your comments can be used against you for deflamation of character.

Thank you for highlighting the point I have now been making for two weeks.

If you had published your personal details instead of hiding behind an alias, this comment could be perhaps construed as offensive:

What would you like to be when you grow up? wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-13 08:15:33
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 13 2010, 08:08 AM) [snapback]710731[/snapback]
We're ****ed then, fantastic.

Do not underestimate the Monkey's wisdom.
mortonjag 2010-02-13 08:21:36
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 13 2010, 08:11 AM) [snapback]710732[/snapback]
Different region Douglas. blush.gif

Don't think so Peter - there are many spellings of the place which gave us the sweet naan

Peshwar/Peshawar
mortonjag 2010-02-13 08:23:58
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 13 2010, 08:18 AM) [snapback]710735[/snapback]
No frost on my car windscreen in Dumfries this morning at 8am. Clear sky and going to be sunny. I can't see the game being called off unless conditions are very different on the other side of the Nith.

Similar weather here - game on! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-13 08:24:53
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 13 2010, 08:21 AM) [snapback]710737[/snapback]
I don't think it's the monkey's wisdom he's underestimating Douglas. mellow.gif

Good.
mortonjag 2010-02-13 08:27:33
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 13 2010, 08:22 AM) [snapback]710739[/snapback]
I was joking. rolleyes.gif

Of course you were Peter - the information was for the uninformed.

In 1964 Aldo's in WBS undoubtedly made the best 'Special' fish suppers in West Renfrewshire.

I popped in a year or so back and the place had turned into an open plan greasy spoon! huh.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-13 08:28:55
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 13 2010, 08:28 AM) [snapback]710744[/snapback]
happy.gif

Fing agrees with him this week.
mortonjag 2010-02-13 08:30:34
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 13 2010, 08:21 AM) [snapback]710738[/snapback]
Agree with you entirely, but wasn't it stealing benefit money from other people he was accused of rather than benefit fraud? And MJ, less of the "old" if you don't mind. After deduction of 17.5% VAT and other government taxes, I'm only 29.

smile.gif They do tend to put years on one.
mortonjag 2010-02-13 08:32:29
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 13 2010, 08:27 AM) [snapback]710743[/snapback]
Actually I think it is still prevalent in some people and in some areas although suppressed much of the time. I always find it amusing when someone makes a racist remark in company in the expectation of getting a sympathetic response and everyone else responds saying they find thae remarks unacceptable. In my experience, those who are prejudiced have usually never met anyone from the group against which they are prejudiced. As far as racism is concerned, travel definitely broadens the mind.

Will today's visit doon hame stop the Monkey from hating Teddy Bears?
mortonjag 2010-02-14 11:12:03
QUOTE(StillTON @ Feb 13 2010, 03:04 PM) [snapback]710875[/snapback]
Na he knows that he will only hear what he already been told,just likes to use his keyboard to stir!
All talk,he knows the matter will be addressed as he has been told,and as he has no possitve input to
include he will contiue to use his fingers to try tarnish people who give up their own time and effort for
the good of the club not themselves.These people do not get enough thanks for their efforts,MJ does not
speak for all the ton fans
,his problem is he just wants anybodys head on a platter,doesnt matter who's.

Two weeks and counting. Could you ask one of the big boys in the Trust (which Mortonjag understands has under 200 members and proclaims NOT to speak for the fans) when the Civil action will be set in motion?

That would be a positive thing to do. Trying to 'second guess' Mortonjag is pointless, and trying to discredit him is patently silly.

If the Trust believes it can move forward without the Stars of '79 fiasco being 'put to bed' in a fair and equitable manner, Mortonjag suggests that it had better think again.

mortonjag 2010-02-14 11:21:52
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Feb 13 2010, 02:50 PM) [snapback]710863[/snapback]
I think he will go. smile.gif

I have joined the Trust, Your Majesty, and I have clearly stated that I am willing to offer what help I can as and when I am satisfied that current problems are resolved openly.

I am unsurprised by the palpable lack of interest in the unfulfilled promises made by Messrs. Goodwin and Duncan over two weeks ago.

One word aptly describes the current state of the Trust. 'APATHY'.

If those who wish to see progress are to have any hope of success, they must first assist in clarifying the 'Stars of '79' issue.

At the moment they appear to regard legitimate questions as a personal attack, and Mortonjag wonders why that should be.
mortonjag 2010-02-14 11:29:37
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Feb 13 2010, 01:47 PM) [snapback]710819[/snapback]
Nothing like blowing your own trumpet laugh.gif

Would you like me to blow yours dear? I could do that before bending over to help you! wub.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-14 11:42:29
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 13 2010, 05:58 PM) [snapback]711024[/snapback]
Well I'm off the hook. I did reply to his email. You just ignored him Puggs.

For any of the rest of you - be afraid, be very afraid - MJ will be tempting you very shortly with a big trail of smarties into his cellar.

TonInDublin

unsure.gif email or emails.

You are a very confusing young man at times. unsure.gif

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 13 2010, 06:06 PM) [snapback]711028[/snapback]
I believe he said "please respect confidentiality" blink.gif

I did indeed Spurtle.

My comments about 'the way folk have been brought up' were clearly prophetic. What more can one say about someone ignores a sincere personal message before using it to further a puerile agenda?

Words do not escape me, but it's Sunday - the day of peace and rest.

So I'll restrict them to despicable, reprehensible, untrustworthy, and amoral.



mortonjag 2010-02-14 11:47:11
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Feb 11 2010, 03:36 PM) [snapback]710211[/snapback]
I've got a valentine's poem that has never yet failed to get me in a girls knickers:- roses are red violets are blue I've got a knife now get in the ****ing truck! wub.gif

biggrin.gif

Roses are red
Violets are blue
Lily's are pink
And double D too. wink.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-14 11:49:17
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 13 2010, 01:54 PM) [snapback]710824[/snapback]
...of ignoring MortonJag over the Past few years?

biggrin.gif

Douglas ignores everybody, which makes your question look a bit silly!
mortonjag 2010-02-14 11:53:13
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Feb 14 2010, 12:18 AM) [snapback]711189[/snapback]
Next time I see you park across two spaces like that i'm going to arrange for some locals to look after yer car for you! dry.gif

I'm afraid I don't know what you are talking about, though I did avail myself of some parking at Dumfries which may just have been large enough for two bubble cars! laugh.gif

It would have been nice of you to introduce yourself! wink.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-14 11:58:24
QUOTE(El gofer @ Feb 13 2010, 10:47 PM) [snapback]711147[/snapback]
MJ, the menu had it down as a Peshori naan and it was nice. Quite light, and more coconut than previous peshwari naans.

Not a spelling mistaike incase thats what you were getting at.... Not that you are ever pedantic (plays for Serbia btw!)

Not YOUR spelling mistake - I agree. The different spellings for a variety of common dishes in Asian restaurants is notorious. I was just making the point that the sweet Naan originates from Peshawar.
mortonjag 2010-02-14 12:03:43
QUOTE(centralTON @ Feb 13 2010, 10:55 PM) [snapback]711153[/snapback]
I feckin' hate Arnold Clark, don't ask me, or do???

YIP -thievin' lyin' cheatin' ****s.

Put my car in last week for warranty work on the ENGINE.

They tried three times to SELL me four new tyres, and claimed there was a hairline crack in one alloy which 'made the car unsafe to drive, but which they'd replace under warranty'!!!

ALL lies, which was politely pointed out to them! ph34r.gif

They think they have it (and the customer) sewn up. I really DO pity the poor souls who have to go there with no knowledge of motors.
mortonjag 2010-02-14 12:06:27
QUOTE(ccc @ Feb 14 2010, 11:48 AM) [snapback]711286[/snapback]
The article seems to place Nicola Sturgeon in the same bracket as Wendy Alexander. Praise indeed.

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mortonjag 2010-02-14 12:10:42 I thought LEAFY had a great game, and was not caught offside once. One ball he played into the box was an absolute peach but was squandered I recall by Finlayson. Later in the second half, if he'd just been able to get off the ground a split second earlier, he'd have had a dead cert headed goal.

Masty, however, has to get my vote for two very cool strikes.
mortonjag 2010-02-14 12:14:58
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 14 2010, 12:07 PM) [snapback]711296[/snapback]
Politics generally, not exclusively in Scotland, is full of complete non-entities. Being a 'great' politician these days is like being the world's tallest dwarf.

Or a squashed Quality Street among Fudgy Wudgys.
mortonjag 2010-02-14 12:16:50
QUOTE(Savo @ Feb 13 2010, 09:07 PM) [snapback]711089[/snapback]
Very impressed with Beany today.

From the off he was busy and on his toes. He constantly created space for himself (and others) really well, pulled defenders all over the place and was always available to receive a pass.

He also held the ball up intelligently, showed good close control and helped us join things together in the first half when we were looking a real threat going forward. There was plenty of enterprise in his general play.

He can be well pleased with his day's work, an excellent display with loads of graft and hopefully he'll draw confidence from it.

So he's no really sh*te then? wink.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-14 12:19:19 I was amused at how Masty immediately became persona non grata on this massage board as soon as Grady said he could go.

Two goals which win a match are a very strong argument for keeping him! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-14 12:25:09
QUOTE(biglarry @ Feb 13 2010, 09:39 PM) [snapback]711107[/snapback]
bit of poetry there

here's some more

Whilst strolling down the High Street , from the Ice Rink in Dumfries,
I met this smelly, wizened, dirty, hag :
she said are you from Greenock ?
affirmative said I
she retorted - do you know my old boy friend , Morton Jag. ( stretched the scan a bit there sorry )

he has a face like thunder , and his breath honks of fish
she continued to inform me with disdain,
you'd think someone had set it alight with petrol on his dish
then beat it it out using a bike's gearchain

...... fin

ohmy.gif


Mortonjag loves the attention but opines that your 'poetry' is exceedingly poor.

Big Larry,
Ugly sight,
Cannae read
Cannae write. wub.gif

mortonjag 2010-02-14 12:37:55 Haven't read the other posts. I thought it was a very good team effort, and Gordon Chisholm's comments say it all for me. Worthy of mention - an excellent game by LEAFY who wasn't offside ONCE, and deserved better of a couple of probing passes into the box, Spoonsy for a tireless and skilled performance up front, and Masty for getting the goals that mattered.

Black marks to Finners for a daft sending off, and an again none too inspiring performance. Jimbo redeemed himself with some superhuman work when we went down to ten men. Not much else sticks out really - both sides missed chances (QOS were worse in that department) and Big Stu and Dom looked very nervous at times against Holmes and Company. Marvin Andrews gets off with 'murder'. Why is that?
mortonjag 2010-02-14 12:40:48
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 14 2010, 12:23 PM) [snapback]711301[/snapback]
Boozey, i started a new topic last night but it just seemed to have went off the map as they say, its cool though, i'm not shimfing wink.gif

Go on Ghostie -- DO tell what it was about! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-14 12:42:19 Why is nobody saying nasty things about him today? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-14 18:49:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 14 2010, 12:53 PM) [snapback]711316[/snapback]
Hi, welcome to the internet.

Use of the internet is not governed by your perception of decency. Mortonjag has shared emails and personal messages with countless folk in the past, and on FAR more important platforms that a football forum, and never before has a request to respect confidentiality been ignored.

Mortonjag did not entrust you with anything of great import - indeed, given the ongoing absence of the promised Civil action, Mortonjag welcomes your infidelity.

Furthermore, Mortonjag now has grave concerns about the integrity of someone he believed might have been able to handle more sensitive material honourably - and he IS a grown man.
mortonjag 2010-02-14 19:04:13
QUOTE(C B @ Feb 14 2010, 01:43 PM) [snapback]711330[/snapback]
What you should have said is "He'll score today if he puts the ball in the net"

That way nobody can say your predictions are inaccurate happy.gif

biggrin.gif

It was the Monkey's prediction.

Mortonjag predicts a victory over Ross County.
mortonjag 2010-02-14 19:09:37
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 14 2010, 12:57 PM) [snapback]711319[/snapback]
Because it would be disingenuous to take the shine off an excellent result so soon?

Only people with agendas would do that to the manager, just like Mortonjag did to 'Sheep Lips' all last season. rolleyes.gif

laugh.gif ....and Mortonjag was correct as usual son.

QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Feb 14 2010, 02:26 PM) [snapback]711340[/snapback]
laugh.gif

you really are full of shit, arent you?

Does it talk like that in the pub? dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-14 19:14:35
QUOTE(GreacensGenitão @ Feb 14 2010, 07:10 PM) [snapback]711425[/snapback]
The monkey knows his onions but your prediction fills me with dread.

Fear not. We will beat Ross County. That is guaranteed.
mortonjag 2010-02-14 19:16:47
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 14 2010, 12:50 PM) [snapback]711315[/snapback]
Alexander was never a leader in a million years, infact her leadership was a complete and utter disaster. But she is not as dumb as many would make out.

Indeed, she has a big mooth just like Nickerless, but she doesn't need to shave.
mortonjag 2010-02-14 19:20:21
QUOTE(stuart @ Feb 14 2010, 05:16 PM) [snapback]711392[/snapback]
I hate when people park across 2 spaces, it's annoying.

Usually done when people don't want anyone bashing their cars with their doors.

I'm sure it was an oversight by the good doctor though.

Not at all. It was a carefully considered decision, having carefully examined said space to confirm that it was indeed NOT designed for two cars, though comfortably accomodating of one! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-14 19:22:20
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Feb 14 2010, 06:54 PM) [snapback]711412[/snapback]
Alright folks, looks like the washine machine has gone on the blink. Put on a wash this afternoon and went out for a few hours, and when I went to hang it at the back of 4, the load had some black marks all over it, and on close inspection it seems that the drum has come out of position as it's moving about a lot.

Anyone got any idea if that's going to be expensive to repair, or even better if there are any washing machine repair people around that could give me some advice.

Thanks.

Is the drum still turning. Perhaps the belt has shredded.
mortonjag 2010-02-14 19:24:36
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 14 2010, 04:13 PM) [snapback]711374[/snapback]
FIRE IN EAST CRAWFORD STREET!!!!!

Two fire appliances are tackling the blaze, smoke emerging from the roof of the building, road seems to be closed at the shops/bookies. wink.gif

Where are the Trust headquarters? wacko.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-14 19:37:41
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 14 2010, 07:31 PM) [snapback]711438[/snapback]
I can't agree with you at all, Russell. It was a despicable act by cowardly wee thugs who need a good boot in the balls.

Whether it smashed right through or not is irrelevant. I had Dylan with me yesterday, and he was sitting at the window seat. If that brick had hit the window where he was I don't think I could describe how angry I'd be.

I agree. I wish they'd gone for a more legitimate target like the Raemobile. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-14 19:39:05
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Feb 14 2010, 07:30 PM) [snapback]711437[/snapback]
Nah it was actually a pretty low load compared to normal. When I look at it again, I notice that the drum has come away from the rubber seal, so what you say may not be far away. How did you get yours fixed?
The drum is turning yes. Took the back off already and belt still looks intact so I don't think that's the reason.

I think one of the flexible mountings may have failed.
mortonjag 2010-02-15 05:36:53
QUOTE(Grady @ Feb 14 2010, 11:38 PM) [snapback]711545[/snapback]
It's just what Paypal does...unfortunately!

Not to worry. With a lot of people, Paypal's the easier option anyways, so ram yer cheque wink.gif I'm glad you've seen the light either way

PS Incase you haven't received anything yet, your membership is now complete and recorded accordingly. And there is a 'paper trail' incase you're ever concerned

I already have the Paypal receipt, and it's good to hear that things are happening.

When Trust people act like normal human beings and answer queries (as you have done) faith is in some small measure restored.

When are St Columbo and the bearded one getting that summons out please?
mortonjag 2010-02-15 05:41:45
QUOTE(StillTON @ Feb 15 2010, 02:32 AM) [snapback]711590[/snapback]
MJ cant wait to meet you at meeting and see your face when your handed a summons for slandering people within the
trust,YOU dont ae the BALLS to accuse me because I have done no wrong ,if you do your more stupid than Robert Black.
So cant wait till you get your arse on a seat and accuse me or my friends,cause I will stand by them 100%.And you better hope that the we dont meet cause your I've done a check on you and Ernie you do fit the bill !!!!

That post seems to fit the Trust's handling of the 'Stars of '79' like a kid glove. rip.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-15 05:54:44
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 14 2010, 10:36 PM) [snapback]711516[/snapback]
Again, internet, welcome to it.
Well I hope you learn a very valuable life lesson, lets chalk this one down to experience shall we?

And believe me, anything in life I cared about, I could be a very trustworthy person. Your poor attempts at flaunting information in the form of PMs does not count as this.

You were bound to wriggle and squirm. Worms are incapable of more.

What Spurtle and 44TT have said is being thought by the majority.

I now regard you as a despicable little piece of sh*t.

mortonjag 2010-02-15 05:58:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 15 2010, 04:36 AM) [snapback]711596[/snapback]
It was when his "inner troll" started getting out of hand that Jaron Lanier felt the first stirrings of unease. A "troll" in internet slang is someone who tries to disrupt online discussions with inflammatory or abusive comments, generally anonymously.

"When I started to notice myself getting mean online I thought, 'Something is missing here. Something has gone terribly wrong,"' says the 49-year-old computer scientist from San Francisco.

"I observed myself getting into bizarre pissing matches. It's just astonishing how it takes hold of you. It's like a demon or something."

laugh.gif laugh.gif
http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/digital...tml?autostart=1

Lanier's thoughts are a welcome counterbalance to the orthodoxy that the web is an overwhelmingly positive development for humanity.
mortonjag 2010-02-15 06:04:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 15 2010, 03:45 AM) [snapback]711595[/snapback]
Turn the paper trail into a smoke trail ?

screen! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-15 06:09:23
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 15 2010, 12:44 AM) [snapback]711561[/snapback]
That expression is becoming repetitive, VT.

...and has nothing to do with the New Academy.

Do you think it will ever get off the ground Newt?
mortonjag 2010-02-15 06:12:36
QUOTE(diablo ton 1 @ Feb 15 2010, 02:27 AM) [snapback]711589[/snapback]
I have always liked James Grady as a player and I think he will do a decent job, given the opportunity. He reminds me of Owen Coyle, a similar type of player and I hope James Grady will be the same type of manager as Coyle.

Both of these guys are street smart and hopefully know a player when they see one, not all managers do.

Anyway the guy needs to be given a chance and that will be next season, when he has been able to bring in the type of player he wants in the summer.

Finally and realistically, anyone coming to manage Morton is not going to be a guy with any sort of current winning record. If you think a guy with experience is the answer, well he has already been binned by another club...so how will that experience play out, the guy has already been bagged because he did not cut it elsewhere. So does that make James Grady a decent shout at least for this season and next?

When Shoogly reluctantly allowed JM Poodle to go, he bemoaned the fact that football is a 'results driven business'. JG will be judged on results. For a 'rookie' I think he's done not too badly so far.
mortonjag 2010-02-15 07:33:27
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 15 2010, 06:40 AM) [snapback]711612[/snapback]
I must say it was a particularly bad piece of parking. Over two bays AND nose first. Terrible stuff.

blink.gif

You have a fotie Peter? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-15 09:38:00
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 15 2010, 08:06 AM) [snapback]711621[/snapback]
I would like it to stay on the ground, thank you very much.

biggrin.gif

I understood it would be flying in no time.
mortonjag 2010-02-15 09:40:10
QUOTE(biglarry @ Feb 15 2010, 09:22 AM) [snapback]711625[/snapback]
laugh.gif

droll - P1 school standard .. go to the naughty step

Big Larry
Very naughty
Monkey spank
Larry's botty.
mortonjag 2010-02-15 09:42:22
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Feb 15 2010, 09:39 AM) [snapback]711631[/snapback]
Naw Peter Dived. ,,,an I like Peter very clever player.

An Big Marv was far and away the best player on the park.........Big Dom was next best.

Foobs ph34r.gif

I take it you've already done your daily reading from the Holy Bible! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-15 09:43:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 15 2010, 07:59 AM) [snapback]711619[/snapback]
any smoke signals about the action ?

blink.gif

Nope - I'd imagine the only hope is the pipe of peace.
mortonjag 2010-02-15 09:52:55

QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 15 2010, 09:50 AM) [snapback]711638[/snapback]
Wasn't me either. Which means that you either fecked it up when posting it Ghost, or another mod deleted it.
Which just isn't cricket. The whole intention of the Jesse was to be able to post what you like.

If I find out who it was I'll delete one of theirs, fair enough ?

TonInDublin

Make it the left - it hangs lower and is more easily dissected! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-15 09:55:38
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 15 2010, 09:53 AM) [snapback]711640[/snapback]
MJ,

I replied to your original email. There was nothing in the second one that was new from the first one, so I thought it was more of a "yeah, I agree with you mail".

However, I will try harder in future !!!!

TonInDublin

I shall check and get back to you! biggrin.gif

OK - I've just checked and we were undoubtedly in agreement about a great deal. I'd suggest, however, that the last four paragraphs, and the suggestion made therein were worthy of comment at the very least. That is indeed how I still see the matter.
mortonjag 2010-02-15 10:29:37
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 15 2010, 10:12 AM) [snapback]711646[/snapback]
I dont know what happened tbh, i know it was available once posted, then i went back later as i thought i put the wrong link in and the new thread had gone, its cool though, just thought folk would have enjoyed watching a handfull of insurgents trying to attack a tank with rifle fire from a wee van, then watching a 500lb laser guided totally diesntegrate them rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2010-02-15 10:30:49 JenniferPanettiere
mortonjag 2010-02-15 13:32:54
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 15 2010, 12:30 PM) [snapback]711680[/snapback]
You two humping? ph34r.gif

Mortonjag's advances were apparently rejected. Maybe he's all talk and nae c*ck!

Mortonjag always bends over to help others.
mortonjag 2010-02-15 13:36:22
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 15 2010, 12:41 PM) [snapback]711684[/snapback]
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Cant remember it now, but i'm sure i will find it again, and many more and paste them on here for everyone to gloat smile.gif

Mortonjag sent Shoogly a blow up doll for Valentine's day. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-15 13:41:02
QUOTE(upaclose @ Feb 15 2010, 12:25 PM) [snapback]711676[/snapback]
As Stewart Lee says;

“Has political correctness really gone mad, or is it just that a lot of people confuse political correctness with health and safety legislation?â€

Whoever Stewart Lee is he's f*ckin bonkers! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-15 13:47:27 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

No time ago we were facing relegation and Grady was keech.

The Monkey predicted a fourth spot finish before the start of the season. biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-15 13:53:53
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 15 2010, 11:18 AM) [snapback]711664[/snapback]
If you say something often enough in football, it will happen.
You couldn't even get the season of his departure right. laugh.gif

ohmy.gif What a palpably ridiculous statement.

As for the second bit I had been informed he'd be leaving 'in the summer' - between 'seasons'. That was Mr Rae's intention at the time I posted the information, and THAT IS A FACT! biggrin.gif If you disbelieve me ask the Sugar Daddy.

QUOTE(Rossco @ Feb 15 2010, 01:15 PM) [snapback]711691[/snapback]
I still think he is a little smug ****.

I have never liked him & not going to change my opinion just because he is our manager.


Nothing to do with him being a left fittit midden moocher then? blink.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-15 13:57:29
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 15 2010, 01:55 PM) [snapback]711700[/snapback]
Australian far-right politicial has had enough of Australia and is moving to the UK.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8515977.stm

Should she be banned from residency as she's a preacher of hate who could potentially fan the flames of anti-Muslim discontent and discrimination, or alternatively should we welcome her as she's simply standing up for white Christian values and culture?

Discuss. smile.gif

Your raison d'etre.

NO FECKIN' COMMENT! dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-15 14:00:44
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 15 2010, 01:57 PM) [snapback]711703[/snapback]
It will be up front against County this saturday wink.gif

Nah - unfortunately the fuse was f*cked and the old c*nt's already sold it on to Q.O.S for kiss of life demos by the Preacher man.
mortonjag 2010-02-15 14:02:51
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 15 2010, 01:58 PM) [snapback]711704[/snapback]
That'll be a first then. laugh.gif

I wonder what your 'raison d'etre' is. rolleyes.gif

Sticking pins in plasticine models of you, Shoogly, and other undesirables! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-15 14:05:31
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 15 2010, 02:02 PM) [snapback]711709[/snapback]
Nae wonder Andy Goram was down there then laugh.gif

Looking for his hole from big Marv?
mortonjag 2010-02-15 14:12:33
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 15 2010, 02:06 PM) [snapback]711715[/snapback]
So you're a bitter, nasty and vindictive old man then?

I'd always thought so, but thanks for the confirmation nevertheless. smile.gif

That and more. ph34r.gif

QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 15 2010, 02:10 PM) [snapback]711718[/snapback]
It almost worked BTW, I was on one of these trains travelling to Leuven this morning half an hour before this happened... ohmy.gif

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8515855.stm

Luckily for me I got off at the stop before Leuven.

I was on the 'Herald of Free Enterprise' a month before it sunk as well. I must just be born lucky I guess. smile.gif

Others might disagree. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-15 14:20:16
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 15 2010, 02:14 PM) [snapback]711721[/snapback]
Maybe some will, but nomatter what shoite life might throw me I can always console myslef with the fact I'm not you. smile.gif

WTF is this Myslef? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-15 14:34:55
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 15 2010, 02:27 PM) [snapback]711727[/snapback]
To help us out We have appointed ToninDublin as a mod. All new mods are on a trial basis. We will appoint more mods this week, if you do not get picked thanks for putting you name forward.

Welcome ToninDublin, and be nice.

O ME MISERUM! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-15 14:38:00
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 15 2010, 02:35 PM) [snapback]711732[/snapback]
you not happy tongue.gif

Not if it's that daft c*nt from the Jesse boys forum - all Mods are clowns but intelligent clowns are the worst! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-15 15:42:21
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 15 2010, 03:27 PM) [snapback]711756[/snapback]
Sorry guv. blush.gif

Don't pander to the quisling! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-15 15:43:48
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Feb 15 2010, 03:27 PM) [snapback]711754[/snapback]
Which won't happen.

Unfortunately I can't see us making up more than a couple of places, and that's even if we manage that.

Oh ye of little faith - we can still take 45 points I believe! bouncy.gif thumbup2.gif bouncy.gif thumbup2.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-15 15:46:19
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 15 2010, 03:20 PM) [snapback]711748[/snapback]
He's in Harry Potter I think.

TonInDublin

Wizard humper.
mortonjag 2010-02-15 20:54:39
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 15 2010, 06:22 PM) [snapback]711817[/snapback]
Was the civil action ever actually "promised?" I've only ever seen it said that it "may" be carried out, but perhaps I missed a post somewhere along the line.



After the Greenock Telegraph reported the outcome of the Police investigation into the 'missing money', and on the very same day (Saturday 30th January), this statement appeared on the massage board.
[attachment=6480:defamationnfinal.jpg]

That was followed very shortly by a statement from Stuart Duncan which echoed the original poster's confidence and announced that the Trust intended to pursue a Civil action.

The whole thread was removed shortly thereafter. Threads often seem to alter or disappear when folk with influence become uneasy.

Subsequently, this statement appeared (from Mr. Duncan) on the official Trust website:


"We are extremely dissapointed the Stars of '79 evening - attended by 280 people - produced a deficit to the Supporters' Trust of £1600. The Supporters' Trust may pursue a civil action to recover money and items which are still due to them."


What is said in haste may be regretted at leisure!

mortonjag 2010-02-15 20:59:40
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 15 2010, 08:30 PM) [snapback]711851[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Feb 15 2010, 06:21 PM) [snapback]711816[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Cheers Bryan, this must be how Grady felt when he got the ton job on a trial basis cool.gif

C B, as a matter of course and out of fairness to TiD, I must now call you a ****. You're a ****.

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Not only is he a pouffe, but he's a posh pouffe with a posh car and a posh wife and he lives in a posh toon where Cheeky Charlie used to stay--oh wait--maybe CB IS Cheeky Charlie!
mortonjag 2010-02-15 21:01:38
QUOTE(Andy Brady @ Feb 15 2010, 04:21 PM) [snapback]711785[/snapback]
I have not read the entire content of this threat. However, I woudl say that if this academy is to see the light of day then it needs the support of the community and to do so they (those in charge) have to communicate with the local area and outline their plans.

Most fans couldn't tell you what the plan is with the academy as the communication between those involved and the fans is poor.

You DON'T say! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-15 21:04:13
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 15 2010, 08:12 PM) [snapback]711843[/snapback]
Because the fact that DDF contrived to balls-up yet another transfer window doesn't take away from another fine result at Palmerston, would be the answer to the first question.

That is absolutely correct.
mortonjag 2010-02-15 21:08:34
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 15 2010, 08:45 PM) [snapback]711858[/snapback]
laugh.gif

That big cheesy grin says it all. I reckon they get back handers from Shoogly, and other 'trusted' folk!!! biggrin.gif thumbup2.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-15 21:14:46
QUOTE(C B @ Feb 15 2010, 09:13 PM) [snapback]711876[/snapback]
Cheeky Charlie??

I've been called worse tongue.gif

You're a jobby too.
mortonjag 2010-02-15 21:15:49
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 15 2010, 09:09 PM) [snapback]711872[/snapback]
aye right rolleyes.gif

I lied about the 'Shoogly' bit! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-15 21:20:22
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 15 2010, 09:11 PM) [snapback]711875[/snapback]
Who are the "folk with influence" you're talking about who contrived to get the thread removed?

Did somebody contrive to get the thread removed?
mortonjag 2010-02-15 21:24:46
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 15 2010, 09:23 PM) [snapback]711882[/snapback]
I wish someone would contrive to have you removed , Your like a broken record MJ

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mortonjag 2010-02-15 21:37:28
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Feb 15 2010, 09:27 PM) [snapback]711886[/snapback]
The Supporters' Trust may pursue a civil action to recover money and items which are still due to them.
I think that's a different from your assertion that they intended to pursue a civil action.

Do you always make it up as you go along? No don't answer I've no intention of engaging you in keyboard tennis.

Good, Peter - I hope you don't mind me calling you Peter by the way!

As I stated, Mr Duncan plainly indicated an INTENTION to pursue Civil action in the thread which was subsequently deleted.

It seems to me that failure to do so may leave the Trust wide open to a defamation action.
mortonjag 2010-02-15 21:42:55
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 15 2010, 09:38 PM) [snapback]711892[/snapback]
I see you're choosy about which sentient beings you select for slaughter. At least the leviathans have a chance in life, and are born free, unlike the poor beasts that provide your daily fare. Away and grill a slice off a pigs arse and think on before criticising those 'barbarian' Norwegians. laugh.gif

Away and choke on a veggie burger Edwards. wink.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-15 21:45:07
QUOTE(Nickaton @ Feb 15 2010, 09:41 PM) [snapback]711893[/snapback]
but will Grady be there next season?

Well Shoogly won't get MUNNY for him - will he? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-16 06:13:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 16 2010, 03:03 AM) [snapback]711952[/snapback]
Is that like putting in the boot ?

I read it as 'sole' too Newt. Moderators all get up to fishy behaviour. You can fool some of the people some of the time etc. dry.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-16 06:22:24
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Feb 15 2010, 05:50 PM) [snapback]711807[/snapback]
Eh??
Indeed. I'm sure dingo will correct me if I'm wrong, but I struggle to think of any post I've ever made being critical of Masterton, in fact it's always quite the opposite.
Also, without being at the game a lot of what has been said about Queens seems quite predictable. The last few times we've played them they seem to have develop an unpleasantness that does them no favours. How Andrews ever finishes a game without getting sent off is beyond me, being big and strong as one thing, but the guy's an animal, you're lucky if one in five of his challenges are fair.

He is also charismatic and a Christian - not yer typical we fitba' ned frae 'The Mulk'. Referees IMO work on incredibly inaccurate preconceptions half the time.

I agree with you - some of his aerial challenges border on comedy if they weren't also totally illegal.

Oh - and I forgot, he doesn't like POUFFES either.
mortonjag 2010-02-16 06:26:16
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 15 2010, 11:59 PM) [snapback]711926[/snapback]
I think is fair to suggest that those promoting the academy have:
  1. rather limited resources at this time
  2. their hands full applying for government grants
  3. a battle getting Cappielow to agree to a "fair deal"
There will be plenty of time to engage the community after the academy has been established.

First things first.

Getting the £1600 back from 'the thief' must surely be well under way.
mortonjag 2010-02-16 06:27:26
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 14 2010, 11:57 AM) [snapback]711291[/snapback]
It's almost 11 months since we last drew a league game, which was against Ross County. Who do we have next? That's right - Ross County. smile.gif

We will beat Ross County.
mortonjag 2010-02-16 06:41:22
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Feb 15 2010, 09:43 PM) [snapback]711896[/snapback]
I received an accidental text yesterday, it said:

Hi, be home soon, love ya, Dave xxx

Being Valentine's Day I thought I'd have a bit of fun so I text the bloke back:

Don't bother, I don't love you, you're a kunt & I have been shagging your brother.

I couldn't wait for the reply, then it came:

You ok mum?

I wouldn't have stopped there - it could have got MUCH funnier! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-16 09:17:15
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 16 2010, 08:07 AM) [snapback]711964[/snapback]
I intend to be as fair and equitable as you were when you were doing the job nach0.

Indeed, you were one of my role models and sources of inspiration who made me want to fulfill this position.

Were it not for you I don't think I would ever have thought about taking the job on.

TonInDublin

Roll?
mortonjag 2010-02-16 09:49:32
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Feb 16 2010, 09:35 AM) [snapback]711974[/snapback]
I hope you're right, I think it will be a really hard game to win. I think Ross County are currently the best team in the division, as well as always giving us a tough time. A win against them would be a great result and could set us up for a good run.

Ross County have been a revelation - the dark horses of the division who are incredibly well organised and ran us ragged last time at Cappielow.

They are NOT invincible, however, and faltered on Saturday, while we got our second away win on the trot.

I have a very good feeling about Saturday's game. They have undoubtedly been our 'bogey' team recently and we owe them one! smile.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-16 09:51:56
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Feb 16 2010, 09:46 AM) [snapback]711977[/snapback]
Right it's gubbed. Spoke to a guy from the number given by Loyal Lass, he said it sounds like, as Alibi suggested above, that the bearings have gone, and if that's the case, it's about £120 to repair, and it doesn't guarantee that it will last very long afterwards.

So, looks like a new waching machine then. Great timing after just buying a car and booking a holiday sad.gif

There are plenty of good reconditioned machines on the market - indeed you may possibly pick one up cheaper than the repair would cost.
mortonjag 2010-02-16 10:06:50
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Feb 16 2010, 10:01 AM) [snapback]711981[/snapback]
Yep I think it will need to be a second hand effort in the meantime as I don't have a couple of hundred quid lying around right now to buy a new machine.

Anyone know of any 2nd washing machines for sale blush.gif

There are several shops in Glasgow which do reconditioned machines. I'd imagine somebody in Inverclyde will do the same. Sometimes they'll give you some kind of guarantee (e.g. they'll take it back if anything goes wrong within a month). Or of course you could buy from a private seller.
mortonjag 2010-02-16 10:08:14
QUOTE(C B @ Feb 16 2010, 10:07 AM) [snapback]711983[/snapback]
Please tell me thats the monkey typing ph34r.gif

The Monkey predicted a 2-1 victory at Dumfries!
mortonjag 2010-02-16 10:16:28
QUOTE(C B @ Feb 16 2010, 10:12 AM) [snapback]711986[/snapback]
1 in a row, a new record ? wink.gif

He also predicted a victory at Starks Park! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-16 10:18:46
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Feb 13 2010, 07:16 PM) [snapback]711050[/snapback]
As far as I am lead to believe its purely a Monterey thing.

Other courses can attract a high number of students from abroad paying huge fees, where as this one has a majority of home grown talent.

Can you blame them if they don't get enough funding?
mortonjag 2010-02-16 10:21:03
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Feb 16 2010, 10:18 AM) [snapback]711991[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Feb 16 2010, 10:10 AM) [snapback]711985[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think we need to leave poor Eanimeany out of the Masterton hater group, he was dragged into this like Pee Wee at his first visit to Porkys rolleyes.gif

Okay, though I don't think anyone hates Masterton, we just stated our point about his failings, which the Manager and Player have agreed with and are working to correct. If Dingo disagrees he needs to convince Masterton and Grady that the player was contributinf enough before Saturday.

If Masterton scored two goals in every game and stood scratching his arse for the rest of the ninety minutes I'd suggest that he was earning his keep. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-16 10:22:37
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 16 2010, 10:17 AM) [snapback]711990[/snapback]
He may well e-mail you. laugh.gif

If she still has dreams of 1950's Britain she's in for a shock.

More's the pity!
mortonjag 2010-02-16 10:24:28
QUOTE(C B @ Feb 16 2010, 10:19 AM) [snapback]711993[/snapback]
Impressive blush.gif can monkeys get nosebleeds?

Yes - especially when on anticoagulants.
mortonjag 2010-02-16 10:26:41
QUOTE(C B @ Feb 16 2010, 10:23 AM) [snapback]711998[/snapback]
Andy Ritchie wub.gif

Precisely my point. I remember an away game at Perth last season when Sheep Lips was desperately trying to hang onto a draw. He left Masty on the bench. We scorned about four set pieces before they got the winner! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-16 12:03:09
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 16 2010, 10:41 AM) [snapback]712008[/snapback]
Right, so we have several statements couched in "may"s and one, allegedly deleted statement saying it was definitely going to happen. I'm going to stick with my "may" interpretation for now.
Clearly you implied that this was the case. Someone, somewhere, with influence saw to it that the thread was removed. Again, I think this is a pretty lame piece of innuendo and I'd prefer to see it backed up.

I'd have preferred you to have seen the statement before it was deleted. If you choose to disbelieve me that's your prerogative. I was not the only person to do so, and it IS on record.

QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 16 2010, 11:31 AM) [snapback]712029[/snapback]
Well, Florence - I hope you don't mind me calling you Florence by the way!

As I stated in this thread, my very reliable source indicated to me that you were struck off which was subsequently ignored.

It seems to me that failure to produce definitive proof may leave me with the conclusion this is correct .

It seems to me that if you are really interested you may check with the General Medical Council! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-16 12:29:29
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 16 2010, 12:11 PM) [snapback]712044[/snapback]
Like I said a very reliable source has indicated to me that Florence was struck off, if Florence cannot show me definitive proof this was not the case then midTONs will continue to be of the opinion Florence was incompetent.

This will not go away...

If you choose to believe your 'very reliable source' in preference to checking with the General Medical Council, that does not surprise me Kojie. Others will draw their own conclusions regarding your motive for persistently attempting to discredit Mortonjag.

Something which REALLY will not go away is the unresolved issue of the 'missing' 'Stars of '79' money.

Unfortunately that issue has been clouded heavily by information disseminated by at least one 'very reliable source'! biggrin.gif

What remains factual is that the Trust (represented by Mr Goodwin) accused a third party of theft while promising (via Mr Duncan) to pursue Civil action to retrieve the 'missing' money.

So long as the matter remains unresolved, the credibility of several persons involved directly and indirectly with that event will remain in serious doubt.

Do you have any personal reason for not wishing the matter seen to a satisfactory conclusion? Are you connected in any way with those responsible for the running of the event? More specifically - are you personally friendly with any of those responsible for the running of the event.

Even MORE specifically, do you REALLY want the truth to emerge?
mortonjag 2010-02-16 14:33:53
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Feb 16 2010, 01:58 PM) [snapback]712076[/snapback]
[/b]

I don't know what you are reffering to regarding AD. So who is and what is his job if not a retired Doctor?
Who is the real MJ then ? blink.gif

Mortonjag is a retired General Practitioner Guv. Mortonjag's registration is currently 'on hold' and may be re-instated at any time before the age of seventy years on payment of a re-registration fee. Those details are easily checked with the General Medical Council by anybody who is genuinely interested. Mortonjag wishes that the answers to his questions could be obtained as easily as information from the G.M.C.

...and of course Kojie is personally friendly with folk involved in the Stars of '79 business, while Mortonjag is not.

Guv - do you think the Trust will pursue the promised Civil action, and if not why not?
mortonjag 2010-02-16 14:57:02
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 16 2010, 02:54 PM) [snapback]712089[/snapback]
I don't have any connection whatsoever to the Trust, when you saw us last night we had just left a meeting between the Albert and Spinny travel clubs, there was no great reason for the meeting other than the two clubs have a good relationship and like to get together every couple of months and discuss travel club stuff.

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mortonjag 2010-02-16 19:53:27
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 16 2010, 06:21 PM) [snapback]712138[/snapback]
Mr Ernie started a thread before it even hit the papers
Thankyou wink.gif

EH?

Seems to me that some folk are getting very mixed up Ghostie. The first I knew of this matter was when the report appeared in the Tilly.

I won't be giving anything a rest. I'm a Trust member and I want to know what progress is being made in recovering the allegedly missing money. That so few others seem interested is surely a measure of the apathy which currently pervades all Trust matters.

I also would like to understand why one of my elected representatives, Mr Goodwin, made a potentially defamatory statement - on the understanding (clarified by the Chairman, Mr Duncan), that the Trust intended to pursue a Civil action - and no such action has been raised.

Why is the Trust not following up on the matter? It has been suggested that they wish to avoid publicity, but the newspapers have already had their noses in this messy business Ghostie -WHEN THAT SUITED THE TRUST!

It's not a trivial matter that folk who oversee a considerable investment in our Club appear to think that they can ignore legitimate questions.

It is surely premature that the Trust should be attempting to fill Board vacancies before this matter is clarified.

mortonjag 2010-02-17 10:13:06
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 16 2010, 07:17 PM) [snapback]712153[/snapback]
Penguin dick laugh.gif

Yip Chris - Mortonjag's knob takes the biscuit! wink.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-17 10:17:44 The Monkey is impressed, and fing wants to join up.
mortonjag 2010-02-17 10:33:05
QUOTE(biglarry @ Feb 16 2010, 01:14 PM) [snapback]712063[/snapback]
Thats not very nice .. mock the afflicted why dont you ?

Did you not know that I've been in hospital and had an Arsectomy ? traumatic it was.
anyway, good news is that they have been seeking a donor for a replacement rectum and your face seems a perfect match

Big Larry's
Erse for mutton
Jobbies oot
His belly button.
mortonjag 2010-02-17 10:35:28
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 17 2010, 10:29 AM) [snapback]712320[/snapback]
My up to date mate Boyle also assumes a constant temperature wink.gif .

It is the hole/crack expanding faster than the speed of sound that causes the phenomenal noise. This is in the intersonic range; effectively causing a sonic boom. It will measure about 170 dB.

Your best bet would be to look at the analogy of a balloon. However, as Alibi indicates there are a number of variables. So although interesting I am out!

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mortonjag 2010-02-17 10:51:54
QUOTE(Rampage Nu Sport @ Feb 17 2010, 10:39 AM) [snapback]712326[/snapback]
Hear Hear to that - I was gobsmacked at Grady's choice of team on Saturday, but it seemed to work, and I'm pleased he doesn't seem to have "favourites" - its interesting that players he's signed don't automatically get a place in the team (Tidser, McKinlay), and others who seem out of favour do get a shot (Masterton, Russell) - and that these decisions seem to be pretty decent.

Now - if he could turn his mind to changes in tactics and substitutions during the match, that would be even better.

I agree in particular about Tidser. Some folk seemed to think he played rather well at Kirkcaldy, but I wasn't all that convinced by him. Hopefully he'll come good in time.
mortonjag 2010-02-17 11:32:55
QUOTE(SramTon @ Feb 16 2010, 10:50 PM) [snapback]712236[/snapback]
I'm hoping one of the more scientific/engineering-minded types will be able to help with this.

If a car-tyre is being inflated when it suddenly (and violently) bursts at 35psi, is it possible to calculate the likely approximate sound pressure (in dB) created by the burst?

Cheers.

I reckon it's likely that you could get an approximation.
mortonjag 2010-02-17 12:01:37
QUOTE(C B @ Feb 17 2010, 11:22 AM) [snapback]712344[/snapback]
Where have you been hiding? Thats what MJ calls Russell, the definition escapes me but its something to do with him falling like a leaf or his leafy hair or that he wants him to make like a tree and leave huh.gif

laugh.gif

Leaves rustle!

LEAFY Russell!
mortonjag 2010-02-17 12:04:05
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 17 2010, 11:38 AM) [snapback]712349[/snapback]
Agreed although he and Wake were totally different players.

It was great to see a player capable of running onto long balls and making intelligent runs into the channels. Russell may have been the answer to our prayers all along - if only he was given a prolonged run of games before now. dry.gif

Indeed - he didn't benefit from the 'punt and hunt' philosophy of an erstwhile 'Manager'.
mortonjag 2010-02-17 12:06:24
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Feb 17 2010, 11:59 AM) [snapback]712353[/snapback]
Far, far too many variables but approximately maybe but then the question is what would the approximation range be.
My answer would be between "****in hell whit wis that? to Jesus I nearly s*** myself" scale range.

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Boom effin' boom in other words.
mortonjag 2010-02-17 12:21:40
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Feb 17 2010, 12:15 PM) [snapback]712360[/snapback]
Don't go through with it, you'll end up having your arse skelped everytime you go out in public.

That was incredibly subtle Ratarse. biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-17 12:55:12
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Feb 17 2010, 12:53 PM) [snapback]712380[/snapback]
Why do folk on this board cream their pants after one decent result? Give the team and Russell a run of games before getting excited.

Because your anal sphincter is incompetent?
mortonjag 2010-02-17 12:56:49
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Feb 17 2010, 12:55 PM) [snapback]712383[/snapback]
More careful about what? That sounds like a thinly veiled threat. I must go running to the Mods crying.gif

They've already been! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-17 12:59:01
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Feb 17 2010, 12:57 PM) [snapback]712386[/snapback]
I like the new mods, more power to the elbow!

Yes, they seem to be quite perceptive chaps Your Majesty!
mortonjag 2010-02-17 13:01:07
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Feb 17 2010, 12:56 PM) [snapback]712384[/snapback]
I wasn't talking about myself - that's your special subject.

I have many, many specialist subjects Ratarse.

Shall I detail them to you or are you too busy with your wee laser machine? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-17 13:05:12
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 17 2010, 12:59 PM) [snapback]712388[/snapback]
Look lads, any replies that have been pulled have been explained to the people who posted them.

Can I just say that having done that - to then have both sides of the argument referring to, and adding more of the very posts we removed makes the removal of them superfluous. You can't have it both ways - MJ if it offends you then stop bringing it up, the posts have been taken care of. The rest of you - can you help us all get back to matters Morton. And specifically on this thread any thoughts you have reference the incident at Queens.

And for the people who are complaining about the mods lack of efforts elsewhere, please use the report button if you feel unduly upset about something - thats what its there for - no need to clog the board up with it.

Thanks

TonInDublin

I only referred to posts which had not been deleted TiD, and ONLY because the subject was dragged up again - and NOT by myself.

QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Feb 17 2010, 12:59 PM) [snapback]712389[/snapback]
I always said that TiD was a good guy. wink.gif

Today he is a good chap! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-17 13:07:11
QUOTE(Madton @ Feb 17 2010, 01:03 PM) [snapback]712394[/snapback]
Dunno..he said he was going to move Jim to his natural position on the right...that lasted one game!

Your avatar - are they your daughters?
mortonjag 2010-02-17 13:10:35
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 17 2010, 01:08 PM) [snapback]712403[/snapback]
Don't you start ! Palming off your ex Gibraltar boyfriend on to us on the Webcast on a Saturday and telling him you'd pay for it. Just get him telt you don't fancy him any mair !

TonInDublin

Ghostie's a POUFFE?
mortonjag 2010-02-17 13:17:37
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 17 2010, 01:12 PM) [snapback]712407[/snapback]
Back on topic - I rememebr in the last 70's/early 80's getting your windows tanned at away matches was sadly a fairly common occurence. Depsite it happening several times to the bus I travelled on, you never quite got over the "s***e yourself" moment when the window shattered - meaning the obvious dangers of the glass, the lack of a barrier for whatever else was coming your way, and the freezing drive home.

It was then, and still is, a cowards stunt perpetrated by arseholes who wouldn't have the gumption to say boo to a goose.

TonInDublin

Some might disagree. When I drive home from Cappielow and have to queue on the off ramp at Govan to facilitate the Teddy Bears enema, I'd happily drive one of Ghostie's tanks through that lot.
mortonjag 2010-02-17 13:20:00
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Feb 17 2010, 01:11 PM) [snapback]712406[/snapback]
Isn't McKinlay a left winger? I would play him on the left and McAlister on the right.

No.
mortonjag 2010-02-17 13:26:15 Here.
mortonjag 2010-02-17 13:32:58
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Feb 17 2010, 01:29 PM) [snapback]712422[/snapback]
I'm a sick bugger but I had a good giggle at the thread title.

wink.gif

They say that there's always an element of aggression in male suicides. I'm wondering if the poor bugger was trying to make a point.

Still very sad, mind you.
mortonjag 2010-02-17 14:03:13 The Gas Man's in checking the system. He told me he likes dogs, so I let him 'get on with it'. Suddenly I heard him yelling and thought he'd maybe injured himself, but it was just the dog licking his face.

Does anybody else object to getting kisses from man's best friend? biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-17 14:07:38 Last time County played us at Cappielow they were VERY well organised - especially in midfield. I'm thinking that if Tidser's as creative as reported he might be a good addition, and Jimbo could again be tried on the right. Otherwise I wouldn't change a winning team.
mortonjag 2010-02-17 14:10:02
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 17 2010, 02:08 PM) [snapback]712440[/snapback]
Funny that of all these posts the only one showing compassion is from a woman. Ah but it's how men cope with death isn't it?
Dying at 40 is shocking. Suicide at 40 is tragic.

Of course it's very sad, and of course it's funny the way it was reported!
mortonjag 2010-02-17 14:54:32
QUOTE(ritchifan @ Feb 17 2010, 02:48 PM) [snapback]712458[/snapback]
Jenkins is useless full stop!

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He's been struggling to find form after a long term injury. Anybody who thinks that an on form Jenkins is useless probably also thinks that Superkev's a right winger and that Shoogly will donate his life savings to the May Hughes bouncers when he finally shoots the craw.
mortonjag 2010-02-17 14:57:06
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Feb 17 2010, 02:49 PM) [snapback]712460[/snapback]
MY anti virus software was recently updated - norton360, now occationally it says there is a low threat from tracking cookies on websites, is this ok or do they pose a threat?

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mortonjag 2010-02-17 14:58:24
QUOTE(Madton @ Feb 17 2010, 02:55 PM) [snapback]712465[/snapback]
Yes, would you like a shot??

I'm not much use at darts I'm afraid.
mortonjag 2010-02-17 15:06:38
QUOTE(EBu @ Feb 17 2010, 02:35 PM) [snapback]712450[/snapback]
Really tough to answer this question without sounding like a pervert. happy.gif

Dont mind my dog doing it, but the mother-in-laws greyhound is a different matter, big clatty ****er that he is.

Breath like week old roadkill and burnt hair.

Does it ever do this?
[attachment=6485:IMG_1877.JPG]

I believe it's described as 'roaching'. mellow.gif


mortonjag 2010-02-17 15:09:16
QUOTE(ritchifan @ Feb 17 2010, 03:02 PM) [snapback]712469[/snapback]
Face up to facts they are now at best 2nd division players trading on former glories.

I reckon Jenkins is an excellent First Division player. Finlayson can go any time.
mortonjag 2010-02-17 15:21:49
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Feb 17 2010, 03:20 PM) [snapback]712479[/snapback]
I had bought one of his jumpers the other day.

Bit tight round the neck, but it hung well enough.

Did it leave you rather stiff?
mortonjag 2010-02-17 15:23:14
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Feb 17 2010, 03:20 PM) [snapback]712480[/snapback]
I wasn't there on Saturday which is why I haven't commented, but if he's going to score twice every week, then he has to be in the team. No one's had a bad word to say about his performance which is very encouraging, keep it up Stevie.

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mortonjag 2010-02-17 15:25:52
QUOTE(EBu @ Feb 17 2010, 03:21 PM) [snapback]712482[/snapback]
Yeah, he does on occasion do it when he's not drooling all over the floor/smelling like death/knocking stuff off tables in the perpetual hunt for food

He's a harmless big lad, but really thick, and I mean ****ing thick. He ran off during a walk last week chasing a rabbit, ran right into a wire fence and near ripped his head off. He's now got a big scar as if he'd been hung.

As I say, a big daft ****er.

I think we spoke about this before, he's from the rescue center at Langbank.

What's his name?
mortonjag 2010-02-18 07:50:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 18 2010, 05:09 AM) [snapback]712687[/snapback]
I'm a blind bugger - I read Designer Clothes Found Hanging In Wardrobe.

I thought that MJ had suddenly become a dedicated follower of fashion.

blush.gif blush.gif

Mortonjag's Jeriboam of Old Spice has almost been used up. Brut beckons! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-18 07:52:28
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 17 2010, 06:52 PM) [snapback]712580[/snapback]
Rosie's heart's in the right place.

Sadly she has the intellectual capacity of a dung beetle.

I saw her more as a bunny boiler.

Ms Kane should not be saddened by such a great accomplishment.
mortonjag 2010-02-18 07:54:52
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 17 2010, 07:47 PM) [snapback]712608[/snapback]
Every bloke I know say's Lily's smell like stale pish....my wife and mother both disagree. Do wummin smell them different from us.

Proof of my claim:
Wee man is potty training, and is bloody good at it even carrying the potty to the toilet to empty it. Anyway he still has accidents and he has peed a wee bit around the house. WE have the obligatory cloths and spray-ey stuff to combat this.
Every time I walked in our living room door last Sunday i could smell stale pish, but I could not see any stains, I got the spray-ey stuff and proceeded to scrub the carpet around where I thought it was coming from.

The wife comes home and I said "I can smell stale pish, have scrubbed the carpet but cannie find it" she say's she can't smell stale pish.
Monday goes past, into Tuesday I can still smell this rank ming. Out of the corner of my eye I catch a glimpse of something in the socket behind the wee mans table behind the door. I crouch down and tentatively have a wiff of this little air purifier thingy, yip, thats where the smell is coming from and you probably guessed by now, it was ****ing Lily's, my wife insists it smells lovely, I insist it smells of pish.

Stop complaining or the blow jobs will dry up.
mortonjag 2010-02-18 08:02:08
QUOTE(EBu @ Feb 17 2010, 03:47 PM) [snapback]712499[/snapback]
He's called Harry.

Ah - I do remember his picture on the SGS forum.

QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Feb 17 2010, 05:12 PM) [snapback]712538[/snapback]
I didn't until today. We're dog sitting for her head for a few days and having finished work nice and early today we took Bonny for a walk round the cemetery. She is a lovely Welsh Springer, only 10 months old but well trained. We had her off the lead and she started to prepare herself for doing her business. You know, walking round in circles then squatting down. She did a nice one then promptly turned round and ate it! Well, not all of it. She did stop when asked! And yes, I had been letting her lick my face up to now! happy.gif

Some humans eat jobby.

QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Feb 17 2010, 08:48 PM) [snapback]712626[/snapback]
Dogs are constantly licking they're nether regions. Let it lick my face, no bloody chance! ohmy.gif

Dog's botties are often MUCH cleaner than those of their human counterparts. The enzymes in the saliva take care of naughty micro-organisms. I'd much rather let a dog lick my face than have to lick any old bitches bum.
mortonjag 2010-02-18 10:04:04
QUOTE(Mr H Palms @ Feb 18 2010, 09:35 AM) [snapback]712713[/snapback]
over the years on here ive read some absolute tosh.

its just hit a new low

you my friend are a gimp, who clearly knows nothing about football

...and you are not Mortonjag, though Mortonjag agrees with you! wink.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-18 10:07:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 18 2010, 07:53 AM) [snapback]712698[/snapback]
ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

Old Spice to Brut 33.

mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

If Old Spice is no longer available to you, please allow me to send you some.

Admittedly, it is made in New Zealand.

wink.gif wink.gif

When Brut first arrived on the scene it really was very POUFFEY compared to traditional aftershaves - until Faberge used Enery Cooper to 'splash it on all over'!
mortonjag 2010-02-18 10:10:46
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 18 2010, 09:33 AM) [snapback]712712[/snapback]
I can listen to most types of music but I can't stand rapp music mainly because I just don't get it, it's just a noise or some **** talking through a song.

This song sort of works for me and I actually quite like it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8bjzQifv7k

Many people seem to enjoy Rap, Spurtle.

It is not music.
mortonjag 2010-02-18 10:13:05
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 18 2010, 09:04 AM) [snapback]712707[/snapback]
Naw a great fan of dugs myself and I certainly wouldn't let one lick my face. But if someone is comfortable with it then why not ?

Serious question Spurtle seeing as you are not a great fan of dogs.

Why do you like wee Nickerless? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-18 10:14:13
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 18 2010, 10:11 AM) [snapback]712727[/snapback]
Do you like it ?

I find it irritating, and I believe that those who enjoy it are probably brain damaged.
mortonjag 2010-02-18 10:19:26
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 18 2010, 10:15 AM) [snapback]712730[/snapback]
Oh, everyone a gem happy.gif And she could lick ma baws anytime laugh.gif

You'd probably end up with beard burns.
mortonjag 2010-02-18 10:23:00
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 18 2010, 10:20 AM) [snapback]712734[/snapback]
I could live with that...

You seem quite a desperate fellah! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-19 07:51:30
QUOTE(monyou @ Feb 18 2010, 08:58 PM) [snapback]712918[/snapback]
My mother and father said it all the time.

I never found out where it came from - just shrugged my shoulders and went back out to play.

Happy days.

If you see this you have a p.m.
mortonjag 2010-02-19 07:53:45
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 18 2010, 09:45 PM) [snapback]712927[/snapback]
If you're going to try to correct someone, make sure that your correction is correct. Yours isn't.

In Scottish law, such statements both written and spoken, are termed 'defamatory'.
mortonjag 2010-02-19 07:56:22
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 18 2010, 11:11 AM) [snapback]712741[/snapback]
All is not all it seems.. rolleyes.gif

Ah - you're a 'lady lick ma baws' addict.
mortonjag 2010-02-19 08:00:25
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Feb 18 2010, 07:07 PM) [snapback]712883[/snapback]
Does naebudy like creamola foam? fuuck the spar......

Is it real Cremola foam or some new copy, and even if it is does it taste like the old stuff?
mortonjag 2010-02-19 08:03:46
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 18 2010, 07:46 PM) [snapback]712894[/snapback]
IIRC around the very early seventies, around the time that Brut also appeared.
I used the stuff below then, still use it now. blush.gif

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mortonjag 2010-02-19 09:40:26
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 19 2010, 08:42 AM) [snapback]712973[/snapback]
well it would drop down the board into ignominy if only people would stop replying to it.

oh bugger .......

Mouton drove a little bus
A rusty clapped oot chugger
When some c*nt smashed the windaes in
He sighed and said 'Oh bugger'. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-19 09:41:42 When will the sheep shaggers know whether or not to travel?
mortonjag 2010-02-19 09:44:21
QUOTE(Flyerton @ Feb 19 2010, 08:59 AM) [snapback]712978[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Feb 17 2010, 07:39 PM) [snapback]712605[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->There is a man that knows his jackets rolleyes.gif
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDHe is, but God's in a cream puff.
mortonjag 2010-02-19 10:13:23
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Feb 19 2010, 09:51 AM) [snapback]712996[/snapback]
Is anyone else bored by this northern-people-shagging-sheep steroptype? It's honestly the least funny thing that someone could ever say now.

I was going to say that i expected better from you MJ but I don't think that I did blush.gif

laugh.gif

Sorry - I forgot yer granny wore a fleece!
mortonjag 2010-02-19 10:17:35
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Feb 19 2010, 09:02 AM) [snapback]712979[/snapback]
I've heard McAvennie & Gahagan before. McAvennie would make even Ollie Reed blush if he were still with us. Gahagan is very good. McAvennie plays on the fact that he was more interested in bevvying and "ra burds" than the football and leaves you realising that the guy conned you as a player and that getting chucked out of the world cup squad because you were shagging a married woman you met in a club in Ernie Walker's hotel room is not really that funny.

Would you like your chucklectomy reversed? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-19 11:21:30
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 19 2010, 10:43 AM) [snapback]713010[/snapback]
Manky Dug loves it I believe.

Tartrazine - all is explained. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-19 11:44:14
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 19 2010, 11:41 AM) [snapback]713015[/snapback]
Oh well, another Saturday without football beckons... sad.gif

Never say never! wink.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-19 13:23:07
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Feb 19 2010, 12:21 PM) [snapback]713032[/snapback]
So says the greetin' face that runs to the mods every 5 minutes. crying.gif

That's an extremely interesting comment Ratarse. Somebody been breaching confidential information or did you just think it all up? biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-19 13:25:23
QUOTE(Toby @ Feb 19 2010, 01:08 PM) [snapback]713056[/snapback]
Agreed, but it's boring. It doesn't even wind the Airdrie fans up. I enjoyed it in 2003/04 because they had a crowd with them and there were some tasty games between us, not to mention the fact we hadn't had anything resembling a real rivalry with anyone for a while. Now, they're just a wee club with their 700 home crowd and 30 odd away. It's just no fun shouting at an empty stand.

They do have quite a nice stadium.
mortonjag 2010-02-19 13:34:28
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 19 2010, 01:29 PM) [snapback]713073[/snapback]
To be fair, it's realtively common knowledge amongst the Morton footballing community. biggrin.gif

What is relatively common knowledge to whom and from which source and why Roberto.

Jaggy's ears are pricking up, because in all the time Jaggy's been on this forum he's probably not 'run to' the Mods more than half a dozen times!

Does that information clash with yours? biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-19 13:36:26
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 19 2010, 01:35 PM) [snapback]713076[/snapback]
I'll just have to make sure the PC is switched off tomorrow night as well ph34r.gif

wink.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-19 13:40:55
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 19 2010, 01:39 PM) [snapback]713080[/snapback]
I'm afraid I stick to the same morals as your good self which means such info's entirely confidential. wink.gif

I'm glad there are two of us! wink.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-19 13:42:01 Brave new world
mortonjag 2010-02-19 14:06:52
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 19 2010, 01:54 PM) [snapback]713090[/snapback]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8523538.stm
Aye if you want to get murdered by an unknown nutter could you go about it in a more public manner .

By calling Jesus/Jeshu a pouffe !!!!

If I want to be murdered by a potential nutjob I'd go with Allah was a peado.
But fair play to Elton .

Wait till Spurtle sees this! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-19 21:19:45
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Feb 19 2010, 07:59 PM) [snapback]713218[/snapback]
NO, Aye, and OH AYE......

Excellent - I'll send the Monkey off to the nearest Spar! wink.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-19 21:22:28 The poor guy has spent his whole life trying to get his balls into a hole faster than anybody else. The poor little rich boy is more to be pitied that ostracised! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-19 21:24:40
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 19 2010, 08:29 PM) [snapback]713227[/snapback]
Dip it in the Lily's!!! Genius. biggrin.gif

Lilies are good for ones orchids it appears!
mortonjag 2010-02-19 22:24:14
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 19 2010, 10:02 PM) [snapback]713248[/snapback]
The Thin Red Line

Under Shoogly's assets? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-19 22:26:31
QUOTE(Grady @ Feb 19 2010, 09:30 PM) [snapback]713238[/snapback]
I'm involved with the running of the Trust, but I'm not currently on the board.

I just felt that, due to previous posts, that it was the right time to bring some clarification. However, I'd rather leave any related questions as not to bring the thread off-topic. Thanks for reading my post Newt. Hope it clears the aura of negativity and suspicion, and will invite more people to consider assisting the Trust, either by becoming a member or applying for a board position

It is. Will it be coming soon?
mortonjag 2010-02-19 22:28:30
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 19 2010, 10:09 PM) [snapback]713251[/snapback]
I've tried to avoid all this tigger woods stuff simply because i find golf so incredibly dull, but am i right in thinking he got caught shagging around ?.....so what, big deal.. he's not the first & he wont be the last.

Either get back with the wife or get a divorce & shut the **** up whining about it !!!

Very true, and I reckon he paid them all handsomely.

After all he is one ugly c*nt!
mortonjag 2010-02-19 22:31:29
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Feb 19 2010, 09:49 PM) [snapback]713243[/snapback]

Any C*ck'll doo!
mortonjag 2010-02-19 22:39:41
QUOTE(Scott @ Feb 19 2010, 10:36 PM) [snapback]713261[/snapback]
Any news on the signing of Donovan Simmonds or were those bounce games a waist of time?

Do you suggest that he was too 'bouncy'? wink.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-19 22:50:28


Not that I speak in respect of want: for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content.

That's in the Holy Bible!
mortonjag 2010-02-19 23:12:19
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 19 2010, 11:02 PM) [snapback]713266[/snapback]
He ain't no Cliff Richard that's for sure.... happy.gif

Would you shag him, Spurtle?
mortonjag 2010-02-19 23:15:03
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 19 2010, 11:04 PM) [snapback]713267[/snapback]
Met Rosie a couple of times, she's alright. The bunny boiler is Caroline Leckie...

Absolutely pathognomonic of an ultra leftie to pander to sad Nationalist ideals!

Or did you get to hump her Spurtle? blink.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-19 23:20:17
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 19 2010, 11:18 PM) [snapback]713271[/snapback]
Your just scared incase it humps your leg !! puoffe !

Surely it will know better! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-19 23:22:46
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Feb 19 2010, 06:34 PM) [snapback]713188[/snapback]

biggrin.gif

What is said in haste is often regretted at leisure. McGhee was always 'up for it'. He will come good.
mortonjag 2010-02-20 08:02:54
QUOTE(blakesan @ Feb 19 2010, 11:47 PM) [snapback]713278[/snapback]
Smashed windows (well, not quite in the case of the bus) are so last week. Defamation is a trickier target, as the new mods will appreciate. This might help

http://www.scottishlaw.org.uk/journal/oct2000/def.pdf

It might, though it's almost ten years out of date! wink.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-20 08:08:43
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 20 2010, 07:59 AM) [snapback]713318[/snapback]
Christ, why would anyone pay good money to listen to McAvennie prattle on? Some people have more money than sense.

They don't Peter -he's an after dinner speaker. They are pished while he prattles and panders to the basic instinct the arseholes won't admit to when sober -it works well for all concerned.

Stuffed shirts like Ratarse need not attend.
mortonjag 2010-02-20 08:11:34
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 20 2010, 03:11 AM) [snapback]713310[/snapback]
How did Golden Casket miss out on this icon ?

It took Alan McCandlish 9 years to get the mix right.

blink.gif

IMHO, Fort Matilda could have worked it out a lot more quickly.

Kramola Fizz is made from sugar, tartaric acid, extract of quina, citric acid, sodium bicarbonate, stabilisers and natural colour.

How big is the £1.50 tin ?

£3.80 for 10 glasses ?

http://www.sugarcandymountain.co.uk/259-cr...izz-nestle.html
Looks like this could be a real money maker ?
http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/scotland...-the.6046631.jp

The foaming at Fort Matilda doesn't emanate from a wee tin.
mortonjag 2010-02-20 08:14:46
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 20 2010, 07:56 AM) [snapback]713317[/snapback]
Someone said yesterday that the problem with these people; Woods, Terry, Cole, etc is that no-one has ever says 'no' to them and this has finally happened.
I've nothing against sports stars promoting or advertising products and Big Henry is an example of that but watching interviews with the likes of Beckham, Michael Owen, Roger Federer etc is like watching paint dry. I think the likes of the BBC should simply stop post-match interviews altogether as they are so banal and filled with pointless clichés.

Incisive cliches are much better, Peter!

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 20 2010, 08:06 AM) [snapback]713320[/snapback]
No. I'm hetro.... Yerself ? unsure.gif

Sometimes.
mortonjag 2010-02-20 08:20:27
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 20 2010, 12:01 AM) [snapback]713283[/snapback]
Aye, listen in to Radio Clyde 10000000000.500.6.0001

When does the programme start?
mortonjag 2010-02-20 08:21:41
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 20 2010, 08:15 AM) [snapback]713326[/snapback]
Aye but that's just a social construction. You wouldn't have said that 2000 years ago. happy.gif

With his tartan tadger rammed up a mammoth's erse?
mortonjag 2010-02-20 08:23:29
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 20 2010, 08:16 AM) [snapback]713327[/snapback]
Am I the only person in the world who grew up in the 70s that has never tasted Creamola Foam?

Undoubtedly Peter. Seems your parents have much to answer for.
mortonjag 2010-02-20 09:43:59
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 20 2010, 08:34 AM) [snapback]713331[/snapback]
Not really considering mammoths died out over 4000 years ago. rolleyes.gif

Quite a cold shag then! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-20 11:44:36
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 20 2010, 10:21 AM) [snapback]713341[/snapback]
No, I didn't ride her. Naw bad set of diddies though.

Wit does pathognomonic mean ? blush.gif

Distinctively characteristic of a particular disease
mortonjag 2010-02-20 11:45:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 20 2010, 11:42 AM) [snapback]713359[/snapback]
I think you missed it.

Owe deer!
mortonjag 2010-02-20 11:51:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 20 2010, 11:47 AM) [snapback]713362[/snapback]
Are you certain that the combination is a prerequisite ?

Would one or the other be inadequate ?

blink.gif blink.gif huh.gif

Indeed Newt - a small penis is erectile dysfunction! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-20 11:53:03
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 20 2010, 11:51 AM) [snapback]713366[/snapback]
Obama called him Kevin Rude.

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I call him Abomo!
mortonjag 2010-02-20 11:53:52
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 20 2010, 11:50 AM) [snapback]713363[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2010-02-20 11:55:10
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 20 2010, 11:53 AM) [snapback]713368[/snapback]
Am I the only person in the world who grew up in the 70s who has never tasted Creamola Foam?

Fixed for you.

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He'll be fizzin' now!
mortonjag 2010-02-20 13:21:24
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 20 2010, 12:09 PM) [snapback]713378[/snapback]
naw - owe dear.

Watching To Kill a Mocking Bird kept reminding me of the Scots legal system.

Wot was that line by Atticus Finch ???

Someone in this court is guilty and it's not the defendant.

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Kangaroo?
mortonjag 2010-02-21 08:08:20
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 20 2010, 10:30 PM) [snapback]713539[/snapback]
Three months after mass muderer Abdelbasset Al Megrahi was due pop his clogs he's still around.

Clicky

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One cannot second guess Allah! wink.gif

QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Feb 20 2010, 11:30 PM) [snapback]713554[/snapback]
whether he lived a day, a week, a month, 3 months or a year it is all irrelavant to the desicion he made!

Not really - McAskill did say he was aboot tae shoot the craw.

QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 20 2010, 11:48 PM) [snapback]713557[/snapback]
He didn't do it, who cares? Justice was done.

CORRECT
mortonjag 2010-02-21 08:11:33
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 21 2010, 12:54 AM) [snapback]713569[/snapback]
I know its not the answer you all wanted, boring and all as it is, but I can confirm that mods do NOT have the capability to read.

The only reason I know is because I just checked so I could answer Newton's question.

So there you have it - Straight from the horses arse.

TonInDublin

Mods who can't read seems just about right in the Morton' scene of 2010! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-21 08:18:35 Fagan and Ogilvie rings a bell.

Fagan (from Easterhoose as I recall) was f*cked with the big C, or so the docs thought.

Fagan had a medically inexplicable remission.

Folk had been praying to some c*nt called Ogilvie, or said c*nt had been praying to God or summit.

Result -Ogilvie became a Saint. -up there beside Shoogly and Nicholas!


Put quite simply, 'inoperable' tumours are wont to remit inexplicably - very rarely -but they do.

The Catholic Church is wont to behave inexplicably - a wee bit less rarely!
mortonjag 2010-02-21 08:22:17
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 20 2010, 01:52 PM) [snapback]713403[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2010-02-22 09:56:41 I was going to paste that link myself. MP's attack GPs for implementing MP's rules and regulations!

You could not make this up! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-22 10:19:21 Spoonsy.
mortonjag 2010-02-22 12:50:30
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 22 2010, 11:29 AM) [snapback]713829[/snapback]
Are moustaches generally worn by those who wanted to show at an early age that their baws had dropped? I can’t think of anyone I know who decided to grow a moustache later in life. Most have been bum-fluff moustaches that have eventually become fully grown.

More so is it a sign of insecurity, vanity or a sign of being a fudge box dweller ?

PS Females are excluded from this straw poll.

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mortonjag 2010-02-22 12:55:33
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Feb 22 2010, 11:49 AM) [snapback]713835[/snapback]
blink.gif Have you seen his (Alan Mcgregor) missus in real life.
I was given a couple of comps for the preseason friendly against Man City and she sat just in front of me. I am not sexist but going to a football match dressed up like it was Saturday night at the Savoy should be banned. My God she is worse than a bimbo. She is a Bambo.

Did ye get a wee stiffy Guv?
mortonjag 2010-02-22 12:56:31
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 22 2010, 12:51 PM) [snapback]713861[/snapback]
It looks so real ! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Just like the possessor! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-22 13:13:07 Aye right!
mortonjag 2010-02-22 13:27:38
QUOTE(The greenock guvnor @ Feb 22 2010, 01:26 PM) [snapback]713884[/snapback]
laugh.gif I am not telling you incase you get a stiffy over ma stiffy.

Just did! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-22 14:17:58
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 22 2010, 02:08 PM) [snapback]713904[/snapback]
The real question should be: Why are they capping places in useful subjects like engineering, sciences and maths when they should be reducing numbers in all the vague, useless, easy courses like social studies, arts etc etc? The answer of course is likely to be something along the lines of "it costs more to run courses in engineering", but the flipside is that if you don't have graduates in useful subjects, the economy can't afford to support a lot of parasite jobs which produce nothing and consume a lot of public money.

Blair's idea that 50% of the public should go to university was daft. That's the root cause. Would have been about as effective and a whole lot cheaper to re-name our primary schools as universities and then everyone could say they had been to uni.

I think a lot of people need to get some idea of the realities of what parasite professions we can actually afford to support. I'd say the biggest scam of the lot is "financial services" - this nonsense of calling an insurance policy a "financial product" when nothing actually gets produced. And don't get me started on pension plans or social workers.

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As evidenced repeatedly on this massage board!
mortonjag 2010-02-22 20:15:16
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Feb 22 2010, 07:44 PM) [snapback]714035[/snapback]
Thats been twice tonight so far and its only fir a split second or two. Yet everything is going in to pitch black like a full power cut.

Strange thing is, everything aprt from the Bt box and hub is going down.

Anyone else had any power outtages tonight?



Nope - everything hunky dory here! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-22 20:16:44
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 22 2010, 07:54 PM) [snapback]714051[/snapback]
No.

Seems just about right to me HT! wink.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-22 20:20:32 It is very frosty those days! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-23 10:04:38
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 23 2010, 10:01 AM) [snapback]714238[/snapback]
As title. I am planning to come up on Saturday but I don't want a repeat of the Airdrie game when I only found out it was off after I got to Greenock. Weather forecast doesn't look terribly good although temperatures at night seem to be at or above freezing in the run up to Saturday.

It was -5 here this morning, after a hard overnight frost.
mortonjag 2010-02-23 10:10:01 DAFT!

So far as I can see they have totally ignored evidence from patients.
mortonjag 2010-02-23 11:10:22
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Feb 23 2010, 10:25 AM) [snapback]714249[/snapback]
As you say, ignoring the patients feedback is silly. Any improvement is better than none. Works for some smile.gif

Tell me Mr Mortonjag, Pernicious anaemia, why have Doctors suddenly found that patients who required an injection of vitamin B12 every 28 days(some every 14days) all suddenly only need it every 3months? Money?

It's Dr Mortonjag, my dear, and has been since 1972!

What you're suggesting is news to me. When severe B12 deficiency is uncovered, injections are required fairly frequently until the norm is reached. Thereafter maintenance is required every three months - a time span which equates to the life of an erythrocyte.

..and I entirely agree. In my experience Homeopathy has often proved a relatively cheap and effective treatment for many conditions.
mortonjag 2010-02-23 11:15:21
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 23 2010, 11:11 AM) [snapback]714262[/snapback]
So does a sugar cube placebo, at a fraction of the cost.

Could that cure Kevin Finlayson?
mortonjag 2010-02-23 15:40:53
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 23 2010, 12:29 PM) [snapback]714288[/snapback]
Whilst reductions in waiting times are to be applauded, I wonder if this is just a result of hospitals adjusting their tactics to meet targets. I had an appointment to see a consultant and was given an appointment shortly before the waiting time would have exceeded 18 weeks or whatever the target was. I was dealt with by a locum whose command of spoken English was on a par with his clinical ability (and that is not intended as a compliment). Basically he did nothing, and my impression was that the whole charade was just done so that the Health Trust could tick the box to say that I had been seen within the target time. Any action was delayed to the next appointment but that gave them another 18 weeks to deal with it. I was not happy and I phoned the consultant. I had no option but to arrange to see him privately, and got dealt with in about 3 days. He agreed with me that the service provided by the hospital was unacceptably poor, and done for managerial reasons. Tellingly, I have never received a bill from him.

The answer of course is to stop setting arbitrary targets and let the doctors do what they do best by prioritising treatment. I'd rather wait 19 weeks and see a competent doctor than see a useless locum after 17 weeks and 6 days.

Indeed!

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 23 2010, 03:27 PM) [snapback]714373[/snapback]
Thought MortonJag would have replied to this thread but he seems to have disappeared.... unsure.gif

Edit to add: Perhaps he's heard from Nicola's lawyers about defamation of character on a public messageboard laugh.gif

I wasn't aware that M.P's could be struck off for incompetence Spurtle! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-23 15:43:02
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Feb 23 2010, 11:27 AM) [snapback]714270[/snapback]
Thank Dear Doctor, in the past 5 years all Pernicious anaemics in this area have been changed to 3 monthly injections one having had them every 28 days since 1974! Should they not be checking levels frequently? Especially if patients are becoming lethargic and suffering heartbeat irregularities and memory loss? unsure.gif

I cannot comment on individual cases. Normal maintenance therapy has always been a three monthly injection.
mortonjag 2010-02-23 16:12:17
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 23 2010, 04:00 PM) [snapback]714389[/snapback]
She is a MSP happy.gif laugh.gif

That's worse! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(TaunTon @ Feb 23 2010, 04:06 PM) [snapback]714393[/snapback]
I assume you mean off rather than of wink.gif

Good. biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2010-02-23 16:32:50
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 23 2010, 04:16 PM) [snapback]714398[/snapback]
Botton line, it's quack science. No beneficial effects found in double blind tests.

For once Nacho and I are in accord.

Jag, surely any real doctor who pedals thias p1sh should be the subject of a fitness to practice hearing?

On yer bike!

QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 23 2010, 04:28 PM) [snapback]714407[/snapback]
I remember the time they were going to build a homeopathic hospital on the grounds at Gartnavel. One of the spec's stipulated no fluorescent lighting blink.gif . It would have cost a bomb to both install and maintain. I am sceptical but I also remember Glasgow University had conducted studies illustrating the benefits of homeopathic remedies in relation to hay-fever. I don't think they could explain the results!

Neither could Sheep Lips, but facts are chiels that winna ding. sleep.gif